“‘Someday I’m going to be president.’ Mama looks at me proud, like I already am.”– From Richard Michelson’s Busing Brewster,illustrated by R.G. Roth (Knopf, May 2010)

It’s a pleasure to welcome Richard Michelson to 7-Imp today. I don’t want to belabor this introduction, since I think this interview is full of all kinds of goodness and I want you to get right to Rich’s words, but for those who might need it, I offer a Rich Michelson 101:

Rich is a poet and children’s book author, whose books have received many honors, including the prestigious Sydney Taylor Book Award (Gold Medal) in 2009 for the stirring As Good As Anybody: Abraham Joshua Heschel and Martin Luther King’s Amazing March Towards Freedom, illustrated by Raul Colón. Clemson University named Michelson the R. J. Calhoun Distinguished Reader in American Literature for 2008. Rich has worked with a whole slew, to be precise, of talented illustrators — not only in his well-crafted picture-book writing and poetry work, but also as the owner of R. Michelson Galleries in Northampton, Massachusetts, a most wonderful-looking visual arts space I long to visit myself. It is in this space that Rich champions and showcases the work of many of today’s contemporary picture book illustrators (as well as the work of those who have passed).

Opening this post is a spread from Rich’s latest title, Busing Brewster, illustrated by R.G. Roth and released by Knopf Books in May of this year. The book, Publishers Weekly writes, “provides an immediate, child’s-eye view of court-ordered busing in the 1970s…Using soft earth tones, Roth’s…stylized mixed media images are an amalgam of angular characters, geometric shapes, and patterned fabrics that feel like an artful interpretation of the era’s cartoons. They readily underscore the collision of innocence and prejudice, anger and hope.” I asked Rich a bit more about this title in the interview below, and to those of you not familiar with his previous titles, I encourage you to check out this page at his site which features his works for children thus far.

This interview does lots of things, I think, but I’m particularly happy about the fact that it (and Rich) celebrates the art of the picture book. Since that is what I try my absolute darnedest to do here at 7-Imp, I think Rich is just about the perfect visitor and I have been a long-time fan of his work, which explores—in his words below—“the complex ways we socialize and politicize our children.” So, without further ado, I welcome Rich and thank him for taking the time in his busy schedule to stop by.

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7-Imp: Tell me about the genesis of this book. I know authors might loathe being asked about “inspiration,” but what made you want to tell this story? You say in an author’s note that you wrote this before Obama took Office. Can you talk a bit about how gratifying it must have been when that happened, in light of the story you wrote?

Rich: I am both a mid-list author (therefore grateful to be given any attention whatsoever) and Jewish (questions are our stock in trade. Nu?), so I don’t loathe being asked anything. Though it is true that I come down on the side of hard work and curiosity, and I am not often visited by the gods of Inspiration.

Busing Brewster is based on the story of many young African-American children in the 1970s, who were bused to previously-segregated all white schools. A few years ago, I was reading the newspaper and I came across an interview with a successful politician who, as a child, had been bused from his home in a black neighborhood to a school in the white section of the city. He attributed many of his achievements to the opportunities busing had afforded him, yet he insisted that his triumphs were not worth the trauma he had suffered as a child.

I am always interested in the complex ways we socialize and politicize our children, and many of my books deal with racial issues, so I began thinking about the well-intentioned, but failed, experiment of forced busing and what it must have felt like for the 6- and 7-year olds, who were already negotiating the more usual complications of starting school and “fitting in.”

So, Busing Brewster became a story about dealing with bullies and the prejudices of others while trying to make new friends. This is as relevant to every child’s life today as it was to Brewster and Bryan and Freckle-face. It is also a story about the difference that a teacher or librarian or parent can make in a child’s life. The larger historical context of busing and segregation is my background canvas and something children will come to understand as they re-read the book — or encounter the subject in other older texts.

While I imagined Brewster as wanting to grow up to be President, it never occurred to me, while writing the book (in 2003, well before I’d heard the name Obama), that this could happen in my lifetime, not to mention prior to publication. My characters, especially Brewster’s mother and Miss O’Grady, the librarian, had much more faith and optimism than I had. How nice that they proved their author wrong.

“‘What’s that sign say?’ I ask Bryan. There’s white people lined up on both sides of the street. ‘Welcome to Central,’ Bryan answers. But then I see him give Jules one of his ‘better don’t tell on me’ looks.”

7-Imp: Had you worked with R.G. Roth before? If not, what was it like to see his illustrations for this story for the first time?

Rich: Honestly, it was disorienting. I admit that I had pictured the story in a more realistic manner, similar to E.B. Lewis’s work on my books Across the Alley and Happy Feet. So, when I saw Rob’s interpretation it took me a few moments (days) to readjust, and now I can’t envision the book any other way.

“SMASH! BAM! CRASH! I didn’t even see the rock. I just heard the glass shatter. Bryan squishes me down under the seat. ‘Wish we could stay at Franklin,’ Bryan says. From down here Franklin seems a million miles away.”

That is the wonder of collaboration. When it works, the illustrator does not simply illustrate the words or follow the author’s instructions. They bring their own vision to the project. For a book to rise, the whole needs to be greater than the sum of the parts.

I’ve had the good fortune of collaborating with some of my closest friends who, lucky for me, also tend to be among the country’s most accomplished illustrators (E.B., Raul Colón, Mary Azarian, Leonard Baskin, Barry Moser), but it is the publisher who chooses the illustrator. I had not worked with Rob before, nor met him, which is rare for me, considering my “day job.”

So, seeing the illustrations reminded me why I love picture books and why I got into this business in the first place.

{Ed. Note: Below are the cover of and illustrations from Rich’s Across the Alley, illustrated by E.B. Lewis and a 2006 National Jewish Book Award Finalist(Putnam, 2006)}:

“Last winter, I watched his finger spell out HI through the frost on his bedroom window. He wrote each letter backwards, and then waved.”

“‘You’ll be the next Jascha Heifetz,’ Grandpa says proudly one night when he comes to turn out the light. ‘I think you’re ready for the recital at the temple next Tuesday afternoon.’ My palms turn sweaty like I’ve been caught throwing a spitball. I want to tell him it was Wilie, but I can’t think of anything to say.”

“Willie’s first notes sound like the radio when I”m searching for the signal that announces the Dodger games. But then Willie closes his eyes, and you can tell by his face that he’s found the right station.”

Rich: My completely un-researched, unsubstantiated opinion (but why hold me to a more stringent standard than the Times reporter?) is that the same number of picture books are being sold, but the reason that 99% of authors/illustrators have seen their royalty checks erode is that our siphoned-off purchases are all going to Mo Willems, whose sales (I cannot reveal my sources!) are accelerating at the exact same rate that the rest of the industry’s sales are declining. Mo is plotting a takeover of the entire kidlit world (as the below secretly-photographed drawings prove).

Pigeon in the Hat

The Elephant and Piggy Sneeches

Answering from another perspective—that of someone who has been working for 30+ years to get pictures in books of all kinds, including adult books—I have to say that visual literacy is as important as verbal literacy. I’d like to see the opposite trend. Everybody should be reading picture books throughout their lives. My gallery highlights many fine press books by renowned artists like Leonard Baskin, who has collaborated with some of our greatest poets (Ted Hughes, Anthony Hecht, etc), and illustrated Shakespeare, Dante, Melville and other “adult” authors. Barry Moser has illustrated many contemporary adult novelists and poets, as well as the classics. The greatest illustrators do not just “illustrate” the words of the page, thus narrowing our imagination; they bring their own creative vision to complement and expand the text. If the whole works, it is always greater than the sum of its parts. I could go on forever about this topic and I’ve given many hour lectures at conferences, libraries and, unfortunately, cocktail parties (while my host ushers me toward the door), but I don’t want to hijack your blog.

The marketplace, of course, is a different matter entirely, but as far as I can see, to quote Clinton, “it’s the economy, stupid.” Picture books cost more than books without pictures, and everyone is watching their pennies. Library budgets are down. Technology is adding additional options for our dollars. Sure, the publishers are buying less picture book manuscripts and sometimes it seems that the quality books (i.e. books by me and my friends) are being crowded out by “literary fast food” (i.e. books by people I don’t like or don’t know), but nobody ever said life is fair or easy or static, and frankly I am always amazed at how many people do still value art — and are willing to put their money where their values are.

7-Imp: What’s up at the gallery right now?

Rich: It has been an especially busy time… We just opened two new Leonard Nimoy photography exhibitions at both Mass MoCA and the gallery (both are on view through December 31). Nimoy is giving a lecture ay Mass MoCA on Thursday, October 21st, at 5 p.m. if any New Englanders want to attend.

{Ed. Note: Head on over to this June interview to read the great story about how Rich got his gallery business off the ground. It centers on ahigh-stakes game of ping pong, no less.}

Contest time: Can you name the six children’s book authors/illustrators who posed for Nimoys most recent Secret Selves project? You can see images here and here. I’ll send a signed copy of Busing Brewster or your choice of any of my earlier books to the first person to get all six names. {Ed. Note: For more information on Nimoy’s Secret Selves photography project, read here. And, if you’re interested in guessing, contact me and we’ll get your answers to Rich via email.}

Disclaimer: Local Northamptonites, friends and family (sorry, Ma), and those bloggers to whom I’ve already given the key are ineligible. (So, no, Ms. Betsy Bird, you can’t play).

Rich and Jennifer Michelson with Leonard Nimoy{Ed. Note: Evidently, Rich has a story he sometimes tells about impersonating Nimoy’s son. I think he’ll have to visit 7-Imp again to dish on that one.}

And for everyone coming to this year’s illustration exhibit, please come early. I will be speaking at the Eric Carle Museum (5 miles from the gallery) from 1 to 2 about The History of Jewish Children’s Books, in conjunction with their incredible exhibit, Monsters and Miracles: A Journey Through Jewish Picture Books. I am honored to have illustrations from four of my books represented in this exhibit.

“It’s Tuesday afternoon and we’re walking side by side, like best friends, and everybody’s watching. ‘Let people stare,’ Willie’s daddy says as he steps ahead of Grandpa and into the temple. ‘Ignorance comes in as many colors as talent.'”

“Abraham was proud of his father, and together they prayed and studied. His father pretended to be surprised when Abraham found candies hidden between pages of the Torah. ‘Learning is a sweet delight, Abraham.'”

7-Imp: What are you reading now, and whom or what titles do you recommend (whether children’s literature, poetry, or otherwise?)

Rich: “Of reading books there is no end,” and the more I read, the larger my to-read pile seems to grow:

Children’s Books: It is both challenging and fun to keep up with all the new books by the artists I represent, but I try to read everything—picture books, YA, MG. Recently loved Chains, Octavian Nothing, When You Reach Me, and of course, I am awaiting Mockingjay like everyone else. {Ed. Note: It took both me and Rich a while to get this interview up. Once he got to the questions, what with his busy, interesting, talented life goin’ on around him, it then took me a while to get the post ready. Of course, by this point, Mockingjay is already out on the shelves.} Plus Tony DiTerlizzi’s new Wondla – though all these illustrator/authors annoy the hell out of me. (Do you hear me, Tony?) Don’t us non-multi-talent authors have enough competition without illustrators allowed to write their own books? There oughta be a law. You should have to choose.

7-Imp: Can you talk a bit about your writing “process”? Do you outline before writing or let your muse lead you to where you need to be (or both)?

Rich: I would be happy to let the muse lead me, were she/he to visit. Unfortunately, my address must be unlisted. So, I plow ahead word-by-word and line-by-line. It is a bit like building a road by laying bricks in front of myself as I walk. And each time a new line is added, I go back to the beginning and start reading all over again from the first word, until I forge on a little bit further. Fortunately, I write poetry and picture books. I could not imagine constructing a novel in this manner.

Cover of and illustrations from Rich’s Ten Times Better, illustrated by Leonard Baskin(Marshall Cavendish, 2000)

7-Imp: How do your presentations to schools, religious groups, etc. inform your writing, if at all?

Rich: Not at all (aside from the simplistic, but true, homily that reading to a group of children makes one very aware of unnecessary words and boring rhythms). Because I write for different age groups and I vary my genre, my theme is what informs my presentation, though humor works in all situations — especially when discussing serious subjects. I try to create a dialogue and, frankly, I tend to ask as many questions as I answer. I am continually amazed at how smart and complicated kids are, if you listen carefully.

7-Imp: I know it might sound cliché, but what’s your best advice for folks wanting to write poetry for children?

Rich: And I know this might sound facile, but stop writing “for children.” Write for yourself, and be as smart, dark, funny as you can be. And, if children love it, fine. And if adults love it, fine. And if no one loves it, that is okay, too.

But, please, study your craft. It takes years. No one thinks that they can compose a sonata or play at Carnegie Hall, because they love music and their grandkids like to hear them tickle the keys. But it always amazes me that everyone thinks they can write poetry, because they have read Dr. Seuss outloud at storytime.

7-Imp: Can you give 7-Imp readers one piece of free advice from your Picture Book 101 talk?

Rich: Sure. Ready? Here it comes: Be wary of advice.

I do mean that seriously, though. Here is some advice I was given:

Write what you know. Don’t preach. Avoid alliterative animal names.

So, of course, I had to write a book where alliterative animals preached about subjects that were foreign to my own experience. As with most things in life, art is less about the idea than the execution. If two artists decide to paint a landscape from the top of Mount Skinner, one can end up with a painting for the ages, and the other can create the pictoral equivalent of a greeting card.

Rich: I felt like I’d received an invitation to join a club of all the folks I’ve always wanted to be friends with. (I.B. Singer was the first award recipient, after all.) It was a wonderful validation, but mostly, in a parental sort of way, I felt less happy for myself than for my book, As Good As Anybody: Abraham Joshua Heschel and Martin Luther King’s Amazing March Towards Freedom. With so many “talented, handsome, brilliant children” out there, awards are always partly a matter of luck and timing, so any extra attention brought to this historic moment of King and Heschel’s friendship was gratifying.

The actual “Sydney Taylor call” was on Christmas Day, and I joke a bit about the unusual timing during my acceptance speech. If anyone is interested, they can listen here.

“Martin’s father had an answer for everything, and that made Martin proud. Daddy King was a preacher, and every Sunday it seemed half of Atlanta crowded into the Ebenezer Baptist Church. ‘The way things are,’ his father preached,‘is not the way they always have to be…'”

“A man named Abraham answered Martin’s call. Years earlier, across the Atlantic Ocean, young Abraham strode through Warsaw, Poland, with his head held high. ‘Walk like a prince, not a peasant,’ his father had told him. ‘We are all God’s children.You are as good as anybody.'”

“When Abraham arrived in Warsaw, he was tired and hungry and cold. He stomped his feet outside his childhood home. His mother threw her arms around him. ‘Perhaps in the next world, people everywhere will live together in peace,’ she cried…”

7-Imp: What’s next for you? Any poetry projects in the works right now (that you can talk about)?

Rich: I have two new picture books coming up, and by happenstance for a non-“organized sports” guy like myself, they are both sports-related:

Lipman Pike: America’s First Home Run King will be out next February. Everyone seems to have forgotten about Lip, who was—truth in titling—professional baseball’s first home run king (1871). He was also the first Jewish manager and the first ballplayer who acknowledged he was “paid to play,” thus speeding the league change from amateur to pro.

Pencil sketches from Lipman Pike(Click to enlarge each)

Twice as Good: The Story of William Powell and Clearview, the only golf course built, designed, and owned by an African American. In keeping with my truth in titling, this is also about what it says. The wonderful Eric Velasquez is on the job.

Poetry Projects:

1). Children: A theatrical version of my 1996 poetry book for young children, Animals That Ought To Be, will be premiering in February at the Eric Carle Museum, and then it will hopefully travel on to “a local school near you.” And I have a just finished a follow-up collection, Pet Power, in my desk drawer. (Editors, please query. Limited time offer!)

2). Teen: An animated musical version of my poetry for teens, Animals Anonymous, is in the works. You can hear a sampling of the music on my site here. (Rating alert: “Bad words and bad attitude, but ultimately uplifting.”)

“‘O why thy dog?’ Shakespeare asked in a sonnet, /But never put his paw exactly on it.”(Click to enlarge spread.)

Illustration (without text) from the “Laughless Giraffe” spread:…”When you’re as tall as a tree / You can never not see. / Were I nearer your size, / I could tell myself lies. / I could close both my eyes…”(Click to enlarge spread.)

“Once I was a teen film queen. / My tenderloins were taut and lean. / Each morning I ate one wax bean, / And every evening salad greens…”(Click to enlarge spread.)

3). Adult: New poems in The Harvard Review, Image, and I am finishing up a follow up to my last collection, Battles and Lullabies. {Ed. Note: Battles & Lullabies was selected by ForeWord as one of the 12 Best Books of 2006.}

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Images used with permission of Richard Michelson. All rights reserved.

Thanks for this, 7-imp. Thank you for introducing me to R. Michelson. What a guy! Also, I’ve suspected as much about Mo’s takeover of the industry. Curses! I LOVE ADORE ADMIRE RG Roth’s art for his new book. You’ve introduced me to him as well.

Thanks everyone!
@Heather-thrilled to be working on my 2nd and 3rdh SB book (A is for Abraham was first, and Sydney Taylor Silver Medal book, so thank you to Heidi as well).
@Lara Beth– I am blushing behind the beard
@Jeannine-now that I’ve used up your breakfast hours, we should do lunch someday.

I have been reading Richard Michaelson’s picture books to my daughter’s class in Lexington, MA for the past two years just before Martin Luther King day. When she was in third grade, I read Across the Alley; in fourth grade, I read As Good as Anybody, and this year I am planning to read Busing Brewster. The children simply love these books! I am a great admirer of Richard Michaelson’s writing style, and these books warm my heart and fill my eyes every time I read them. Wonderful interview on a wonderful author.

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