He also threw for more picks than touchdowns, turfed screens and got benched as a sophmore. The available evidence on O'Korn as a player was likely talented, ask again later on consistent enough to be good.

Here to admit that I was wrong that Speight was the preferable option to O'korn.

At what point does Drevno seriously get questioned though? The one place Harbaugh seems to have extreme loyalty is to his assistants. He stuck wtih ass greg roman till the bitter end in SF. We are too many years into this program for the oline to look this bad. The Oline may be young but only guy doesn't have at least a year of experience in the program. Bredeson and Cole were letting stunts through cleanly too and can't generate push consistently in the run game. Kugler is a 5th year senior. Its worse than it should be and that is bad when the bar set for the oline to exceed expectations was be average.

I'm not worried about Gary at all but he has come in under expections. Really good players force double teams and game plans that help the defense by being the center of attention. Truly great elite players overcome that gameplanning to still alter the game. Gary isn't to that second level yet which is absolutely fine given the fact he is a true sophmore but that second level is about where expectations were.

Literally multiple people died playing football during leather helmet days. It won't magically fix itself. People love to reference rugby but they are two massively different sports. It is extermely rare in rugby for two players to hit each other with more than a few steps of momentum wheras in football players often sprint into each other. Scrums are also relatively rare highly regulated events rather than the constant head to head impact of line play, etc.

Removing protection wouldn't fix the game of football it would make injuries much worse.

Having wr's break those routes off, and in the correct way, and having your qb know it will happen is part of where massive inexperience in our receiving core is a big problem. This isn't madden, that doesn't just happen overnight and Speight has been working with most of these guys for under a year.

I think people were hoping for more out of the oline. Its been 3 years of drevno/harbaugh coaching. I know the recruiting before on the oline wasn't great but at some point you want to see a step forward in just simple fundamentals.

Connelly isn't an x's and o's guy, he's a numbers guy. But what I think the first down success rate stuff shows, especially in the red zone is that when Michigan is running into teams that expect a run we are getting less than nothing, and thats an offensive line issue.

I know its tough to believe with Speight at QB but given the oline's inability to get any push in expected run situations I think we need to go to a pass to run offense rather than a run to pass offense because the run game just isn't there consistently and its really hard to sustain drives when you are looking at 2nd and 8-10 on on 70% of your first downs after a run.

I disagree with your assessment that perry is wide open, I think an early throw to Perry is a pick by the guy going underneath his route. I also disagree that the playcalling was good. The ordering of the playcalling was bland never leaving Air Force confused or caught off guard and often times put us in 2nd and 3rd and longs that are extremely difficult to convert on in the red zone.

You have no idea if that's true and it's distinctly possible the backups would have made worse decisions that resulted in turnovers or haven't show the ability to get the team to the red zone in the first place.

An on the run throw against your momentum as you roll to the wrong side to a guy that has a defender just a step behind him is an incredibly hard throw that few could make. You are measuring speight against a standard that's like Brady in the NFL after 10 years. That's a throw less than 5 percent of college qbs would be smart to make and nobody is arguing he is at that level. His ceiling is a slightly above average college qb and the oline is making that part more difficult.

He's our best wr and this is pretty disappointing but if he can hit the 6 or 7 week period of that timeline the only difficult game he'd miss is at psu. Would be back for wisconin and osu plus bowl game.

Missed it yesterday and just watching now and the sp8 hate is ridiculous. Play calling in the red zone was atrocious and he had like 2 throws that weren't good that didn't involve a free rusher in his face.

The reality is the offense has been fine the last two games, its the red zone thats killed us. turn half those fg trips in td and each of the last two games are comfortable wins. I don't know if they will do that this week but if we do not worried about the game.

For different reasons so not as worrying long term but this is starting to give off the stink of the 2013 season. Close games against overmatched opponents that reveal weaknesses but don't result in losses making it to penn state undefeated before the back half of the schedule being more difficult resulting in a disappointing end to a season with like 8 wins.

I don't like drevno as oc. And for all the accolades we give harbaugh this was the same problem 9er fans had with their offense with Greg roman in charge. Harbaugh trusts his assistants and the offensive guys aren't cutting it right now.

Michigan isn't losing that many players because of people being paid and academics, those are lazy easy excuses. They sometimes struggle in recruiting because of geographic factors mostly since most kids stay close to home and because the schools they are competing against have had more success during the time these kids have been alive and watching football. 2 years of success doesn't magically erase Michigan being ass from 2007-2013, i,e. when most current recruits were growing up.