Earlier this week GamePoliticsbroke the news that a referree appointed by the Florida Supreme Court had issued a recommendation that anti-game attorney Jack Thompson be found guilty on 27 counts of professional misconduct.

The referree, Judge Dava Tunis (left), wrote that she based her recommendations upon testimony and documents submitted during Thompson's nine-day trial on charges brought by the Florida Bar. While the final ruling on Thompson's status will come from the Florida Supreme Court later this year, Judge Tunis has scheduled a hearing on June 4th to discuss possible sanctions.

For his part, Thompson has filed a motion in federal court to stop the June 4th hearing from taking place. He is also alleging that Judge Tunis isn't really a judge because a required state loyalty oath wasn't properly signed. All of which reminds GP of a saying often attributed to Thompson's law school classmate, Al Gore:

When you have the facts on your side, argue the facts. When you have the law on your side, argue the law. When you have neither, holler.

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Now I don't have to get off my ass for the important shit anymore!

Whats next, ordering pizza from Xbox live?

Wait... I think that sounds like a good idea.

But I think voting should MAKE you get off your ass, and see outside or a second while you go vote. I mean, your picking the president of the United States of America for God's Sake... least you can do is drive down there and punch out a card.

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Yes, truth is stranger than fiction, but I still can't believe this one:

There is a Florida attorney by the name of Mary Alice Gwynn who apparently is the subject of a current disciplinary proceeding by the Florida Bar. Ms. Gwynn has apparently chosen as her legal representative in this matter, from among the thousands of other available attorneys, none other than my favorite incompetent nit-wit . . . (drumroll, please) . . . John B. Thompson, Esq!!

Steak dinner at Morton's on me for the first poster who can explain this one to me (and, yes, you can order the 5 lb. lobster at market price, I don't care).

Jack needs a lawyer in good standing to countersign his filings. Gwynn apparently agreed to be that lawyer. She also has filed a RICO suit against the Bar alleging preferential treatment for members insured be a specific company. All in all, Jack has a vested interest in maintaining Gwynn's good standing.

Don't forget, Jack doesn't think he has done anything wrong. More to the point, I doubt he ever sees his involvement as something detrimental to a case. Since he is pushing the idea that the bar is out to get him, he may be trying to tie his situation to Gwynn's as a means of arguing that they are railroading her simply because she is helping him.

He's already raised that exact argument as to both Mary Alice Gwynn and another attorney by the name of Miles Gopman (i.e., the Bar's initiated disciplinary proceedings against both of them as retribution for them attempting to assist him). Now, of course, it'll never dawn on Jack that the Bar may have initiated those proceedings because Gwynn and Gopman engaged in some sort of professional misconduct. Nor will it dawn on Jack, as it does on me, that the mere fact that you're willfully associated with a disreputable character like him tends to call you're own reputation into disrepute.

Initially, it comes from Jack Thompson (part of a motion he's apparently filed with the federal court in Miami and which he published at jaablog). And, yes, Jack has a long history of lying. Period. However, the fact that there is some collaborative effort afoot between Thompson and Gwyn does have some corroboration beyond Jack's mere say-so. As Torven noted, it's been reported in the media that Gwynn filed a RIOC action in federal court and, when inquiries about that case were made of her, she referred inquirers to Jack Thompson. Additionally, the Florida Supreme Court's docket indicates that Jack Thompson has filed a motion on Gwynn's behalf in her disciplinary proceeding.

Yep. That would be Mr. Hurt. He also has a Googlegroup site which hosts a lot of Jack Thompson's ramblings and rantings. He recently closed it to all but registered members after wikki, in banning him, used the fact that he was urging his readers to use wikki as a soapbox for a number of half-baked issues. The guy's a piece of work, in my opnion. No wonder that he and Jack Thompson are kindred spirits.

The ahrc article sure seems to imply the invalidity of Florida Judges (2000-2007) as fact. If this was true, would that not be a national-headline worthy occurrence? An entire State's worth of judges being in office falsely is big news.

Its quite telling that JT would resort to such efforts to save his career- if he were TRULY innocent, would he not be fighting tooth and nail with facts pertaining to his conduct? That's like murdering someone and fighting the conviction on the premise that your handcuffs weren't put on correctly.

The whole "Florida judges have no valid oaths and must be removed from office" is the brain-child (if you wanna call it that) of Bob Hurt, one of Jack's supporters and the person I suspect is responsible for filling Jack's empty head with that rubbish. Mr. Hurt, who blogs extensively, also believes that persons with an IQ below 90 should be forbidden from procreation. He also has some peculiar solutions to the "problem" of African-Americans and Jews in the United States. If there wasn't an obvious possibility that Mr. Hurt's just a few fries short a Happy Meal, a reader may come away angry. As it is, however, he's ridiculously hilarious. Mr. Hurt, who isn't licensed to pratice law nor holds any law degree, also fancies himself as a legal scholar of sorts. Which is kinda like me, without a license to pratice medicine or a medical degree, fancying myself as a brain surgeon.

He's also been banned from wikkipedia for spamming nonsense to their entry on U.S. income tax (seems he's also a "tax protestor" and claims that the U.S. goverment has no authority to levy personal income tax).

Aha, so it's just another case of JT taking multiple pieces of unrelated data, merging them in a way that makes no sense, legally or otherwise, but yelling that the original pieces of data were facts at one poin, they prove him right, and continuing to yell until folks start to believe him.

The Loyalty Oath that is being discussed dates back to the McCarthy era. The original form wanted to assure the State of Florida employee was not a "communist", or a member of such political party. Thereafter, the Florida legislature changed the form to request all employees sign a Loyalty Oath to promise to follow the laws of the State. THIS IS NOT AN OATH ONLY FOR JUDGES. This applies to all employees including toll-collectors, teachers, public work personnel, librarians, solid waste management, law enforcement...get the picture? Anyone employeed by the State of Florida. It has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with being a judge.

There is another document called: Oath Of Loyalty, which is kept on file in the State's capitol. That is filled out by any judge upon appointment or election to the court, and sent out by the Governor's office or Department of Elections. That is a document for judges' which commemorates their Oath of Office and gives them the authority to act in their judicial capacity. This matter involves no irregularities with the Oath of Loyalty.

So these are two separate and distinct documents, which in this discourse, have been incorrectly merged.

The distinction you attempt to draw isn't quiet so clear to me as it apparently is to you. The salient issues, as I see them, are whether, in the case of Judge Tunis, Florida Stautes 876.06, et seq., was satisfied, and, if not, what are the ramifications of that failure to her decisions in Mr. Thompson's disciplinary proceeding. This has nothing to do with two distinct Oaths. To the best of my knowledge, there's only one statute (i.e., Section 876.06) which creates the requirement of an Oath. The relevant statute, if any, (i.e., the applicable law) is always the touchstone of any meaningful legal analysis. So, unless you're saying that there are two distinct statutes in play, I'm not entirely clear on just what it is you're trying to say.

Ah, thanks for the easier research links. I ended up reading the other articles on the site, and came to the same conclusion about her.
Two things... where is this May 24 release she sings so highly of ( I don't see it anywhere ), and if it does exist, I doubt it has the power to null Tunis without many more court hearings; if one magic document could do that, it would have been used by or against Jack ages ago.

Do some research on Wendy Clardy (the author of the post at ahrc). In fact, just make your life easy and Google "Wendy Clardy" and "This is How They Stole My House." You may -- or may not -- agree with me that, while Ms. Clardy's circumstances and the outcome of her mortgage foreclosure are unfortunate, Wendy Clardy is little more than a disgruntled litigant who thinks, despite obvious facts to contrary, the courts have somehow colluded with others to deprive her of her rights and property. There are plenty of these malcontents floating arond the intertubes. And, because Jack himself is little more than a malcontent who thinks everyone is colluding against him to deprive him of his rights, he will tend to strike a repsonsive and sympathetic note with the other malcontents. Birds of a feather flock together.

... considering all the time it takes to work through the Thompson case, I highly doubt that Tunis would be removed from office in fast measure, especially when the person trying to alert the bar has no voice, as his ability to file the documents was taken away...

Now, of course, the fact that the lazy, corner-cutting asses at the Dade County courthouse apparently had someone in the payroll office signing and notarizing the judges' loyalty oaths on their behalf provides Jack with a perfect opportunity to muddy the waters. And muddy them he will. He's actually pretty good at muddying the waters. But so what? The courts (state and federal) are also pretty good at sitting on a case long enough for any muddied waters to settle. Once the silt that Jack's stirred up settles back to the bottom, the courts will clearly see that he ain't nothing but a mud-stirrer. And a mud-slinger, to boot.

Nope. the only loop is that of the noose slowly tightening around Jack's neck.

First, the mere fact that Judge Tunis didn't have a valid loyalty oath does not invalidate her jurisdiction or her rulings made in any matter before her. It only invalidates her right to hold office. She may not have been a de jure judge (judge by law) but she was a de facto judge (judge by fact). That's the essence of the "de facto judge" doctrine as articualted by the Florida Supreme Court. Second, the only way to legally challenge the right of a public official to hold their office is through seeking a writ of quo warranto. A writ of quo warranto is what's called an "extraordinary form of relief" (which roughly translates into "damn near impossible to get"). Under Florida law, a writ of quo warranto is also what's called a "sole and adequate remedy." When a litigant has a sole and adequate remedy, the law requires that they only pursue that remedy and no other purported remedy. Therefore, if the litigant tries to substitute that remedy for another -- such as running to cry, bitch, and moan to a federal court for a stay of proceeding like Jack's doing -- the federal court will abstain from hearing the litigant and from granting any relief. That's the outcome which is required by the abstention doctrine (which requires that a federal court abstain from interfering in a state matter in which the party before them has an adequate state remedy).

What's all this legal mumbo-jumbo really mean? It means that Jack is screwed and all his loyalty oath nonsense ain't doing a damn thing to unscrew him.

Wow...so there's some badly misinformed nutcase out there who believed and actually PUBLISHED Jack Thompson's press release? This has to be a first. Read her profile (go through the various links). She seems to be another "religious, protect the children" type.

Oh, I already knew about Bob Hurt. That's the guy who advocates eugenics and a basic reconstruction of the U.S. Government to basically take over and regulate every facet of society and throwing out all the illegals and institutionalizing the "dumb" (or, at least, now allowing them to breed)? Gosh, where have we heard that before?

See JackDon'tKnowJack's comments a few posts up. Essentially, as he said it's a moot issue because even if her one signing was forged, the subsequent one was genuine. And there are other clauses in place to make sure that if incidents such as these did happen, their rulings could still be upheld. As always, Jack is trying to split legal hairs here as he's desperately looking for an out, which he wouldn't do if he didn't think he was in real trouble. Take it as a good sign. :)

You may remember me from the 60 minutes episode on video games. Also I appeared on a Sesame Street episode on video games. The Grouch is playing a video game. I take it away from him and lecture him on the danger of video games, and then the cookie monster hits me over the head with a cookie jar. It was great family fun!

Anyway, a liberal commie pinko Judge who has not taken a valid loyalty oath, by the unlikely name of Dava Tunis, has found me guilty (imagine that! ME. of all people) of violating some cockamamie bar rules because I was in sweet home Alabama fighting the good fight. (You guys won Alabama both times, right? Florida too by the by.) Anyway, I voted for you guys, no hanging chad, and I have been a front line solider in the war on obscenity. That's me- GI Jack, guns blazzing, killing pinko commies all in the name of protecting our children from violence on TV. Now its time I call in a favor. Do a "Guantanamo" on Dava Tunis for me. Make it so she disappears. You know- the old "leave the gun take the Canolli" type of deal on the broad. Once she is out of the picture, its clear sailing for our conservative agenda, at least until Janauary 2009, unless you guys can cook something else up and suspend the election. And if you do suspend the election, you will need lawyers like me, on the front lines, fighting those "democratic pinkos" shouting first amendement crap and all that other stuff.

So Dick, may I suggest you invite the good Judge Tunis on a hunting trip? Get out the old shotgun, and woops! And end to my problems and clear sailing for you guys. Or how about a nice little indictment on forgery? Haul her robbed butt into federal court and turn some of your federal tigers on her. Or maybe enlist her to teach the Iraqis something about american justice. Send her into Fallujah, and a little road side device can send her to an early retirement.

Anyway, I'll be like the president and leave the dirty details to you. This should be fun. I can't wait to see what you cook up.

Your Pal, standing side by side with in the war against video games and to save america. Those games are way too violent. I say we stand the whole lot of the programmers up against a wall and BADA BING two nice shots each between the eyes. It will save america and you will be a hero in the cultural wars.

Fake Jake Thompson, Esq. (for a while more anyway) and gadfly. (They can't take being a gadfly away from me,)

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