3) Number of years training seriously: 11 Years (9 years if you subtract the two years I could
not train following the accident.

4) Training experience, including current program:
Worked with a trainer, Conan Fuerte, from 2000-2001. Workouts consisted of strength and resistance training in addition to Cardio Kickboxing. Lost approximately 100lbs while working with Conan.

After moving to Big Island I continued with my own training for the next five years picking
up advice from my business partner who had been training since he was 16. Training consisted of Strength, Resistance, Cardio Kickboxing, Interval sprints on an exercise bike; and teaching 9 different aerobic classes a week and one Cardio Kickboxing class a week.

January 2010 consulted with John Romaniello and worked with the menu suggestions for five months.

June 2010 I purchased the XFLD program and completed it successfully loosing 20lbs in 25 days; however I know that some of that was water.

October 2010 - January 2011 I did the Show & Go program designed by Eric Cressey. I really miss the heavier lifting associated with Cressey's program so I think I am going to return to a modified version of this; moving it more into a strength circuit. Thinking of doing this Mon, Wed and Fri and continuing with the Boot Camp classes on Tues and Thurs and adding a Saturday Boot Camp into the mixture.

Even with my medical issues and my size, I am quite flexible with just minor mobility corrections to be made. I am able to perform a full squat (glutes to calves) and always amaze people when I perform a perfect L stretch. I think my years of Karate and Kickboxing helped with this.

5) Olympic-lift variations you know how to perform:

6) Athletic background:
Though I never participated on school teams, during PE Class I enjoyed playing Volleyball,
Basketball and Soccer. On my own I loved Tennis and swimming, was quite accomplished at long distance swimming. I studied martial arts for a short time, about 2 years. I continued on my own using it as a great cardio tool.

10) Amount of time available to train each workout: 30-60 minutes depending on the condition
of my hives. When I get to hot or start sweating I break out in hives. I am very good at knowing the warning signs of when I have pushed it too far and I now carry an Epi Pen.

11) Time of day you train: 5:00 am

12) Do you have certain days available for twice-a-day workouts? I could try doing two workouts on Tuesday and Thursdays.

Tuesday & Thursday:
3:00AM Indigo-3G intake
4:00AM Wake up; shower; coffee and pre-workout drink while reading emails or Facebook
4:45AM Leave for work
5:00AM Open up the gym, Run 5AM Boot Camp and participate as well
6:00AM Run Down & Dirty Boot Camp class
7:00AM Post-Workout Nutrition and open up the front desk
8:00AM Run Down & Dirty Boot Camp
9:00AM Leave the gym and run errands for the gym and personal
10:00AM Personal Client at her home.
11:00AM Arrive home. Personal stuff
1:30PM Lunch
2:00PM Nap
3:00PM Answer personal email and talk with friends, prep for the nights dinner
3:45PM Drive back to gym
4:00PM Prep for Down & Dirty Boot Camp class
4:30PM Run Boot Camp
5:30PM Leave gym for home
6:00PM Prepare Dinner
6:30PM Eat Dinner
7:00PM Chat with clients or friends on Facebook or Skype
7:30PM Prep things for the morning, Shower and get ready for bed
8:00PM Read for a few minutes, maybe 15-20 and then lights out.

14) Current injuries (if any): All injuries are from Car Accident in 2006:
* Lots of scar tissue in the lower legs, particularly the right. I have been working this
last year with a massage therapist on Myofascial release and breaking up the scar tissue.
* Tendon problems in both ankles from the feet being pressed back toward legs at point of '
impact. Though I did not tear the tendons they have caused Plantarficitis which I do a daily warm-up with them before working out.
* Left Rotator and elbow tears. Have been working with shoulder rehab exercises that Eric Cressey recommends.
* I now have a bulge at C5-C6 with a smaller bulge at the C1.

NOTE: Injuries have been so long lasting as there is poor medical care on this island. The first doctor I had saw there was nothing wrong and would not order any testing, MRI's or CT Scans, even though I had no memory and was unconscious. Many of the injuries were not diagnosed for almost 9 months.

15) Lifts (if any) you need to avoid due to safety issues:
* I usually avoid a Back Squat because of poor mobility in the left shoulder due to previously torn rotator. (I have been doing rehab and mobility exercises recommended from Eric Cressey.)

16) Do you currently have trouble falling asleep at bedtime?
No trouble falling asleep; however I usually wake up every couple hours or can only sleep 5-6 hours before wide awake. After the accident I could not sleep; it finally progressed into two hours and have now worked up to 5-6.

17) When you wake up in the morning, are you an easy starter or you do need some extra time and
stimulants to start your day?
* I have one cup of coffee in the morning.

18) Health issues (diabetes, high blood pressure, etc.):
* My only health issue is the extra fat and the pre-existing injuries that I deal with on a daily basis from the accident. I continue to have a 3-4 year gap of memory that has not returned. However, unless overly tired I no longer stutter or have cognitive thinking issues.

* I have no diabetes, heart, blood pressure problems of any kind. My fasting blood sugar is 89 and a non-fasting (after 3 meals) blood sugar tests at 99. My Thyroid, Cholesterol and also in perfect order. My physician says she wished she had even just one more plus-sized person with these numbers. LOL. I usually respond with well thats because I have a fit person living behind the extra layers of fat on top.

* Doctor (Queens Medical - Specialist I finally ended up with) feels the edema in my legs is due to the poor circulation from all the scar tissue and the extra weight that I put on from not being mobile. My massage therapist says that she agrees.
* I get myofascial tissue work done on a monthly basis in addition to the personal work that I do with Foam Rolling.

19) Total calories consumed on training days: 2181

20) Total calories consumed on non-training days: 1842

21) Total grams of carbs consumed on training days: 110

22) Total grams of carbs consumed on non-training days: 38

23) Describe in detail your workout nutrition:
I take 2 Curcumin, 3 BCAA's and previous to program was doing one scoop of Power Drive in 16oz mixture of green tea and grapefruit juice. Following my workout I always had a Surge Recovery drink make with water or Almond Breeze.

With Indigo-3G I am continuing with the Curcumin and 3 BCAA's in addition to my new peri drink of 1/2 cup cooked oatmeal; 1 chunked frozen banana; 1 scoop Grow! Whey/Metabolic Drive-Low Carb (depending on what I have in stock); 1 cup coffee and 1 cup Almond Breeze. I drink two-thirds of it prior to workout and the balance after workout.
This is my proposed menu for the Indigo-3G project.

This menu was only a proposal based on what I thought the protocol was for Indigo-3G. The only juice I drink, and that is not an every day thing was a 1/2 cup of grapefruit juice mixed with green tea and Power Drive. ]]>Thu, 05 Nov 2015 20:09:00 GMThttp://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=4552908Germanicus's Indigo-3G Loghttp://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=4694522
Thu, 29 Oct 2015 05:37:00 GMThttp://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=4694522Domcib's Indigo-3G Loghttp://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5358280
Wed, 09 Sep 2015 12:45:00 GMThttp://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5358280Stew's I3G Loghttp://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=4639375
1) Age: 64

4) Training experience, including current program: I've used several different approaches to training ranging from P.O.F when I was younger to max-effort training over the past 5-6 years. Most recently I've adapted my program to the core principles CT has discussed on T-Nation.

5) Olympic-lift variations you know how to perform: Competitive lifts and variations.

6) Athletic background: Basketball, Football, and Soccer

7) Primary fitness goal (choose one): Body Recomposition

8) Secondary fitness goal (choose one): Gain Muscle

9) Days per week you can train: 7 Days

10) Amount of time available to train each workout: 1 hour to 90 minutes split into 2 sessions

11) Time of day you train: Early Morning and Mid-afternoon

12) Do you have certain days available for twice-a-day workouts? Yes, most days during the Summer.

13) Your daily schedule: Nothing set in stone during the Summer other than writing my thesis.

14) Current injuries (if any): Nothing current. I have a permanently torn pec-major on my left side, and a surgically repaired left shoulder. I was 17 years old at the time of the injury and surgery.

15) Lifts (if any) you need to avoid due to safety issues: None.

16) Do you currently have trouble falling asleep at bedtime? Usually. Very rarely do I not take melatonin, Z-12, or Sleep MD.

17) When you wake up in the morning, are you an easy starter or you do
need some extra time and stimulants to start your day? Not a morning person at all. I usually wake-up and have a Spike shooter or have it prior to training or challenging mental activities.

19) Total calories consumed on training days: I have not been tracking my caloric intake for the last 6 months. Prior to this period of time I usually would consume on average 3200 cals on training days.

21) Total grams of carbs consumed on training days: Usually limited to fruit intake in the morning and AM snack and peri-workout nutrition. In the morning usually 50-70g with peri-workout nutrition adding 32g in the form of SWF.

22) Total grams of carbs consumed on non-training days: Limited to 100 g per day, and usually below that.

3) Number of years training seriously: I started weight training at 16 years of age and continued inconsistently for several years. I would consider the last ten years to have been productive training.

4) Training experience, including current program: I am experienced with most traditional weighttraining systems having tried almost everything over the years. I tend to gravitate toward heavier, lower rep lifting. Currently I am using something along the lines of Ct's HP Mass variations based on 3 deadlift, 3 upper body pressing days each week. I am also experienced in most strongman disciplines.

5) Olympic-lift variations you know how to perform: I'm reasonably proficient with the clean. I typically include jump shrugs or high pulls at the beginning of a workout to charge up the nervous system.

6) Athletic background: I have a background in hockey, football and baseball although it has been a long time since I've played competitively. Currently, all of my exercise comes in the form of weightraining and conditioning work.

9) Days per week you can train: Currently training at least 5 and usually 6 days per week although this is tricky with the constantly rotating shifts and frequent overtime associated with police work.

10) Amount of time available to train each workout: Currently my strength training workouts are approximately 2 hours long which includes prowler work at the end.

11) Time of day you train: This changes daily depending on what shift I am working. When working day shifts I must training after 6pm. When working night shifts I train at 3pm. On days off from work I'll start training between 1pm and 3pm typically.

12) Do you have certain days available for twice-a-day workouts? Yes. On days when I am not working it is possible to get in two-a-day workouts.

13) Your daily schedule: This is all over the map unfortunately.

14) Current injuries (if any): Nothing significant. I'm prone to bicep tendonitis associated with bench pressing although I have found that CT's method of shrugging the shoulders while benching has alleviated the problem for now. I'm also prone to SI joint problems largely associated with back squats. I'm currently deadlifting and front squatting and having no issues.

16) Do you currently have trouble falling asleep at bedtime? No. In fact I often have trouble staying awake. This is due to the demands of shift work.

17) When you wake up in the morning, are you an easy starter or you do
need some extra time and stimulants to start your day?: I usually start the day with a coffee and I take a Spike tab before workouts. When working night shifts I may have another coffee or occasionally another Spike.

18) Health issues (diabetes, high blood pressure, etc.): None.

19) Total calories consumed on training days: ~3000

20) Total calories consumed on non-training days: ~2700 (these are rough estimates - sadly I have neglected staying on top of these numbers of late)

21) Total grams of carbs consumed on training days: Between 70-80 ish from workout beverage and the rest only from vegetable and fruit usually.

22) Total grams of carbs consumed on non-training days: Not sure but usually just from vegetable and fruit sources.

I will have some 'before' photos taken in the next couple of days and I will post them here.

When time permits I will also post the details of my current training program.

Good luck to all those who have already started on their Indigo-3G. I will be following everyone's progress and look forward to sharing my own with you all. ]]>Fri, 05 Sep 2014 14:17:00 GMThttp://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=4557923Annakolev's Indigo-3G Loghttp://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5882287
Mon, 04 Aug 2014 10:08:00 GMThttp://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5882287Rpm500's Indigo-3G Loghttp://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=4766905
Mon, 30 Jun 2014 17:02:00 GMThttp://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=47669058thman Meets Indigo-3Ghttp://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=4558713
I'm 45. Growing up I was always a little on the chunky side, but never what I would consider fat. I first started lifting when I was 14, in my basement using a bench and a set of York vinyl weights. I had the poster that came with the set as my guide. So it was mostly benching, curls, upright rows, and leg curls with the leg curl attachment that came with the bench.

I could only fit 225 on the bar, so once I was able to bench it, I just added reps and sets, until I eventually joined a gym and switched to machine based training. Hey I didn't know any better. In high school I played football and basketball, and could finish dinner and then head out to an all-you-can-eat buffet and still never get fat. Once in University I continued working out, I even played a couple of years of football.

I ate and drank a lot, and despite all the beer I still made gains in the weight room. I've always been natural although people used to accuse me of taking roids. Once I graduated school and got a job, I no longer had access to the University gym. I still liked to eat and drink a lot, and eventually I started putting on weight. When I would get to the point where I'd put on 20-25 pounds, I'd quit drinking for a month. I get out the old weight set, do some jogging and the weight would come off just in time for summer, and then I would repeat the cycle.

Once I had kids I started thinking about my health more and I joined a gym. I got into pretty decent shape, but then I would get injured. I'd try to keep training but I would only aggravate it. I'd stay out of the gym to let it heal, but then I would not change my diet, in fact I probably ate more because not being in the gym I had more time to eat. Eventually I would pack on 20-30 pounds and finally get back to the gym and begin to work it back off. Coming off an injury last fall, I again began to repeat the cycle. Once I was better, I planned to hit the gym to work it off, but every night after dinner I would get so tired, I'd pass out for an hour or so and then not make it to the gym.

It seemed like any amount of carbs was enough to put me down the count. Over Christmas I went on a two week trip to China with a plan to start getting in shape on my return. I wanted to experience as many new things as possible in China as I could, including all the different varieties of regional cooking styles. I didn't watch what I ate one bit, and when I returned home I realized I was at an all-time high for weight. I looked like shit and I declared war against my body fat. I began doing fasted cardio for the first time, and did it every morning. I lifted 5 days a week. I pulse fasted, Pulse feasted and V-Dieted.

In four months I obliterated 60 pounds of fat. I was doing C.T.'s Performance Mass program with mainly Anaconda for workout nutrition. Things were going fine up until I started going into full V-Diet with no carbs. It got to the point where a needed to drink a Spike Shooter to get through the workout, but after a bit I noticed some of my lifts coming down as well as the volume. I added in a scoop or two of workout fuel and than got me back on track. As much as I wanted to vilify carbs I knew I needed them to get the most out of my workout .

I put what I had learned to gether and came up with a slightly modified V-Diet, designed to accelerate my fat loss. I was in the middle of my second week of wabbiting a modified V-Diet, when I got the chance to join the Indigo Team. Anticipating the arrival of my package I decided to cut my experimental V-Diet off at 3 weeks. I was at my target weight, and I also scared the crap out of myself by blowing right through a full pants size in less than a week.

It seemed a little too drastic and I knew the real battle was going to be keeping the weight off once I finished my diet phase. I want to see if Indigo is up to the challenge of repairing all my damaged fat cells, and helping me stay at my current size. I still have some fat to lose, but I don't want to get much smaller other than around my waist, so Iâ??m hoping that I can put on a little size while stripping away enough fat to finally see if I really have abs. Although I've been lifting for about 30 years with a couple of years off in there, I feel I've learned more in the last ten years since discovering T-Nation, especially in the last five years.

The more I learn the more I get the feeling that I know so little as there is so much more to learn, I only wish this resource had been available to me when I was first starting out. Growing up I was probably most inspired by Arnold or guys like the Road Warrior's thinking they got their size just from lifting.

Today I would probably have more respect for a guy like Jack Lalane, as I hope I can achieve his longevity and abilility to workout well into his 90's. Due to some past injuries I had lots of scar tissue and issue with tight fascia, which created some mobility issues. I've been foam rolling daily and using a lacrosse ball on my lats and had some ART done, so other than a few small nagging sore spots I'm feeling pretty good.

Ultimately my goal is not to regain the fat I took off. I took my first dose of Indigo-3G this morning. For the past few days I've adding 1 or two solid meals to my diet to ensure I've gained back any water and bloat prior to beginning Indigo-3G. I hope to lose some fat and gain some muscle, so one of the key indicators for me will be the size of my waist.

The look I would like to achieve and maintain would be that of a running back, linebacker, or sprinter. I don't want just size I want to be about to put it to good use.

> 9) Days per week you can train: 6 to 7
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> 10) Amount of time available to train each workout: 2 hours
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> 11) Time of day you train: Around noon
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> 12) Do you have certain days available for twice-a-day workouts? Yes
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> 13) Your daily schedule: Wake up at 6:00am, start work around 8. Workout around noon. Finish work at 5:00pm and off to bed at 10:00pm.
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> 14) Current injuries (if any): Slight case of plantar faciitis.
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> 15) Lifts (if any) you need to avoid due to safety issues: No
>
> 16) Do you currently have trouble falling asleep at bedtime? No
>
> 17) When you wake up in the morning, are you an easy starter or you do
> need some extra time and stimulants to start your day? Easy start, but I drink some coffee with chocamine thanks to Shelby.
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> 18) Health issues (diabetes, high blood pressure, etc.): None
>
> 19) Total calories consumed on training days: 2,200, but i have refeeds twice a week.
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> 20) Total calories consumed on non-training days: 2,000
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> 21) Total grams of carbs consumed on training days: 100
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> 22) Total grams of carbs consumed on non-training days: 100
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> 23) Describe in detail your workout nutrition: 1 scoop of SWF and 3 scoops of MAG-10
> ]]>Wed, 16 Apr 2014 03:31:00 GMThttp://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=4564128The Buffd_Samurai Indigo-3G Experiencehttp://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=4552822
Evaluate the anabolic and nutrient partitioning nature of Indigo-3G and compare with low-dose steroid cycles

Hypothesis:

If Indigo-3G is as good as advertised with regards to anecdotal reports of more intense pumps, better fat removal, training energy up the yin-yang, then it should be comparable with a specific level of anabolic use since anabolics have realized those very claims to this tester. The better loading of glycogen into the muscles via re-partitioning should be responsible for the better expected training pump and should contribute to strength gains.

Background:

The tester is a weight training veteran, with almost 30 years of iron under his belt. There was a time when training consumed his every thought, and all activities were either planned or adjusted around his training and eating schedules but then he got a family and greater responsibilities in his job, so his life is much more well rounded now. This should not be misunderstood to mean bodybuilding/powerlifting has moved lower on his own personal priority chart.but he is now no longer the boss of that chart! : )

The tester has used anabolic steroids for roughly 15 years trying out many low dosage protocols as well as experimenting with steroid use as a "supplement". The tester has been completely anabolic free for over 3 years now. During the 3 years of being anabolic free, the tester has suffered numerous injuries that he had never experienced before, forcing the tester to modify and adapt his training philosophies along the way.

The tester is one of those hated individuals who was blessed genetically with a good metabolism. He is not a FFB (former fat boy) but has more of an ecto-mesomorphic physique. Getting fatter is not his main problem; his main problem is gaining and keeping weight on. That being said, he realizes that he could always be a little "tighter", especially as he is getting older and doesn't have the "assistance" around to further help in the adipose avoidance game. He is really looking forward to the potential help Indigo-3G can have in this area as a secondary goal.

The tester is in a "position of leadership" at his place of employment as is very very paranoid of who knows who he is. For that matter, he purposely stays away from social web technologies like FaceBook, MySpace, Twitter, or anything that could possibly identify him easily. He is even paranoid about posting and buying from Biotest due to his postings on anabolic use and his experiences. Because of this, he will continue to maintain his policy of "staying off the grid" where pictures are concerned. NO PICS. He understands those who simply will not accept any advice, posting, or feedback without "proof" like pics or videos, and actually salute them for feeling this way. But the tester's paranoia rules supreme here.

The tester employs a powerlifing/bodybuilding training philosophy that emphasizes maximum poundages on all movements. A variety of excercises are used per bodypart, and each bodypart is trained roughly twice a week. The general tempo of all repetitions is explosive on the concentric portion, and slow on the eccentric. The tester believes in tryng to isolate the working muscle during any movement, even in multi-joint movements and transferring as much load as possible to the target muscle. He does not lift to move the weight from point A to point B during his bodybuilding phases (which he is currently in) that is reserved for his powerlifting phases.

Testing Methodology:

The recommendations outlined in the Indigo-3G article for Indigo Team 1 will be adhered to. This means gradually increasing peri-workout carbs and aminos will be done, though not right away. There will be NO other changes to either training or nutrition throughout the experiment period. The tester is still contemplating NOT changing anythings, even the peri-workout carbs, and that decision will be made the 1st day he takes Indigo-3G.

The tester will not do bloodwork this round of testing, but will consider doing bloodwork in future Indigo-3G studies (of his own) when recommendations on bloodwork parameters are revealed by Biotest.

The tester will use feedback from the mirror, his wife, and training buddies to give a subjective viewpoint of progress.
The tester will use logs from previous detailed anabolic experiments and his memory to compare "feel" of being "on" Indigo-3G to being "on" different anabolic cycles.

I do not know the Oly lifts, but am comfortable with KBs. My squat and barbell military press form are not good, my deadlift form is solid.

In 2008, I was 190lbs, 315 5RM on deadlift, 40kg KB overhead press for reps. No pics from that time are available. Now I can do maybe three reps overhead press with the 32kg KB, and can do 5 reps deadlift with 200 on the bar. What should I test now?

I will have I3G, Anaconda, MAG-10, Flameout, Curcumin, Brain Candy, and ElitePro Minerals. I also have a few days of Surge Recovery left

At present, I am pretty much untrained, but see training log for equipment accessibility (major gym, apt gym, stuff in my apt) and available training time (40min/day weekdays, 2x 40min/day weekends in the gym, whatever time I need with the stuff I have at home).

I am away from Sunday, August 5 to Saturday August 18, the quality of my gym access during that period is unknown. I planned to start full dose I3G on Sunday, August 19, and stay on it for at least 12 weeks. I will also be away with unknown gym access the week of September 17. Please advise!

The calories per day number are approximate, my weight has been stable at 255 while relatively sedentary for six+ months.