It was clear that this would happen sooner or later. Several mistakes early on like too many servers, no server transfers and patches creating more chaos than they were fixing scared away a lot of their customers.

ahh, when i saw this i thought to myself - i gotta see the official forumslo and behold - rage and butthurt as far as eye can see.because giving an extra option always breaks everything. every f2p mmo ceases to exist one second after the transformation, and absolutely no f2p game is good. its like, there is this awesome game and *plop* its shite. oh yeah, i tend to be sarcastic.

is it me or does it seems like "singleplayer is free, mmo you have to pay for"? because that sounds AWESOME.

I love their forums at the moment. The most hilarious posts are the ones bitching that there will be more players. Really? I mean, REALLY? Did these decerebrates miss the rejoicing when the server merges let people play with other players again?

OMG! They will be 12 year old smacktards! Well, one, yes, many online games have those, including TOR right now. They won't be allowed into High level content without paying, so, assuming that you bothered to level your toons, HOW WOULD THAT CHANGE ANYTHING? Two, does it occur to these morons that this means more of a market on the AH for the lower tier stuff that never sells?

It seems a lot of people are misinformed here. There's only going to be an option added to play the game for free, with aforementioned restrictions. For people already paying the subscription fee nothing changes except you get lots more free vanity stuff.

It's this easy: you play for free and if you like it you pay the subscription to get access to the full game. You can view the free version as a sort of demo version. I think it's a good idea and I will keep playing like I am now. Unless they do actually go pay 2 win, then I'm outta there.

Fr]anc[is:So I probably wont be able to play as a green human, a blue human, grey human, or a human with bits of metal taped to their face. I can live with that.

Can anyone tell me what the difference between an operation and a flashpoint is? There's so many silly names for everything, is any of it single player stuff?

It's strange that they are adding a 4th kind of currency. From what little I've seen in the free trial, there's regular money, social points, and commendations. Social points cover the Leia bikini and things like that as far as I know, so why don't they just sell those?

Assuming your familiar with WoW terminology, operations are Raids, and flashpoints are Heroics.

All in all I'm pretty happy with this, hopefully the warzone limit is reasonably high, and not something insulting like 5 per week. Huttball is really the only reason i would go back to that game. The only other one i see on there that I potentiall have an issue with is limited access to the fast travel system. Depending on what they mean by that could be very very bad. TOR's environments are massive with loads and loads of empty space between the actual usefull areas on any given planet. Any meaningful restriction on using the games transportation system is going ot significantly degrade the leveling grind. Even more than it already was.

Marshall Honorof:While free players will have access to each class's full storyline all the way up to Level 50, options such as race, warzones (PVP arenas), flashpoints (group dungeons), and space missions will be restricted - although not unavailable - for them.

Hmm...I might try it, then. I hate what they've done to the KotOR lore (especially KotOR II), but I always enjoyed those games' gameplay. This pretty much says they'll let me have everything I want (basically the single-player stuff) and just lock out or limit everything I don't want. Hell...could you lock out my ability to see other players in-game period? I'd rather they just not even be there.

If League of Legends is pay to win then Dragon Age 2 didn't suck and was the sequel Origin deserved.

And we both know that is not the case.League of Legends is not anywhere near pay to win. It has one of the best and most fair microtransaction systems (even while I think that many champ are too costy).

I was unaware that buyin heroes with real money that can be earned in game counted as pay to win. At best it is pay to get there faster. If you happen to like to play a one of the cheaper people then you're set after the first few matches. After that the only thing money buys you is cosmetic looks for your character.

I was unaware that buyin heroes with real money that can be earned in game counted as pay to win. At best it is pay to get there faster. If you happen to like to play a one of the cheaper people then you're set after the first few matches. After that the only thing money buys you is cosmetic looks for your character.

I'm sorry but I do not engage furries in debates. Suffice to say, monetizing heroes is one of the reasons why League of Legends is generally considered a terrible ARTS.

It also looks like its Pay to Enjoy. No access to dungeons or warzones unless you cough up the dough.

So everytime I want in, I have to pay? Or is it a one time payment?

You get a huge flashing popup after every boss, reading "INSERT COIN" in flashing golden letters.

On a more serious note though, according to the handy chart from the news post, you get "limited weekly access". So you don't need to pay if you want to see the flashpoints for their story. If you want to grind some gear you'd have to pay though.I guess it's gonna be something like a 3-day access pass.

After I saw their SW:TOR feature comparison chart, I had a popup in my head, reminding me about recent news of EA claiming that micro transactions are the future. Shortly followed by the memory of that recording in which Richitello talks about the idea of making us pay for ammunition.