Siglerpedia (wiki) Updates

Definitely jump in and add content, if you are inclined. Every bit helps.

One word of caution when it comes to the wiki… Print versions of Scott’s books are canon. The print version of The Rookie has some additions that weren’t part of the podcast version so remember to default to print in the case of that book.

for Christmas this year. It will, of course, take me longer than that to flesh out. I’m new(ish) to the boards, but I love love LOVE <–in my best Sklorno/fangirl voice] the Siglerverse.

I’ve listened to everything except “The Crypt” and “Title Fight” at least twice. And I’m out of things to listen to. Just finished re-listening to all the GFL back to back (I think that’s #5 for “The Rookie”), so I will pick a project and listen and note. Because I care.

There’s some recent work that was done to flesh out the GFL entries and to ensure tht every team that has a logo has a page. Also more work is being done on the planets and the history of the races. More good stuff to come!

And as always, if there’s anything you’d like to know more about post it here and we’ll see what we can do. Or even better, have an adventure and start adding to the wiki! Any addition helps!

Have you ever listened to one of Scott’s podcasts and wondered, “What is that AWESOME music before all the jibber-jab? What is that AWESOME music that every podcast ends with?”

The answer is of course you have! Thanks to junkie amybowen all the work has beendone for you. She complied a badass list of the music Scott has used in his podcasts and it can now be found in the Siglerpedia wiki under Theme Music.

Thank you Amy for making it easy to find the songs that the FDO has had us rockin’ to all these years!———–Gmork – Wiki Czar and Thwackacutioner

…to see how all of the fan based characters are being used. There are a metric crapload of junkie names being used in The Starter…by far more than any other of the FDO’s stories, so I can’t wait to see how it all connects. ———–Gmork – Wiki Czar and Thwackacutioner

I’m assuming you’re referencing the “Junkies-Do your Duty” post you made in the ‘Welcome New Junkies’ thread?

I definitely agree with the sentiment. However I think having that said in the ‘Welcome New Junkies’ thread is the right place for it. Since most new junkies tend to mosey around the forums before delving into the wiki, it’s probably best left in the thread.

With a ton of help from BigJohn, there is now a wiki page dedidicated to junkie names used as characters in The Starter. If you were lucky enough to be chosen for a character by the FDO, your name is now immortalized in the wiki. Each name connects to it’s own page dedicated to the character and each individual character page calls out the junkie who the character is named after.

Right now the individual character pages have limited information (’cause you know, that stuff is top secret until the book is published) but once the book is published, it will all be fleshed out ———–Gmork – Wiki Czar and Thwackacutioner

Rock o with your bad self there UV and BigJohn’s warning goes for most of the wiki. If you don’t want to know who dies or other spoilerific details, then you may want to finish the book/podcast before diving into the wiki———–Gmork – Wiki Czar and Thwackacutioner

Spoke to a couple of junkies now about the updates necessary in the wiki for the Ancestor rewrites.

If anyone is interested in helping, I’ve scoured the Ancestor pages for necessary changes and placed them on the Ancestor talk page. Major thanks to BigJohn for catching a bunch of changes as well! I’ve amalgamated his list with my list and the result is the list on the talk page. Click here to see the talk page.

I’d like to ensure some coordination so that everyone’s efforts can best be used. To that end, as updates are made just make a note on the talk page about which one’s have been completed.

Some resources to use, such as outlines for character pages and templates, are below:

I relistened to the mech descriptions multiple times and I keep thinking the mech described (shonda’s sexy beast) is a quad mech with 4 legs like a spider. Anyone else get this image? Also anyone artistic like up for an artist’s rendering? I’d love to start a sigler-mech article!

Junkies, another dedicated Krakens fan is showing his outstanding Krakens pride by taking his picture with his shiny new jersey. Welcome buckpine #34 to the gallery! The gallery is number order (smallest to largest) by jersey number. Enjoy and thanks buckpine for the pic!———–Gmork – Wiki Czar and Thwackacutioner

That’s one of the hard things with trying to wiki based off of verbal stories. Some of the pages for The Rookie were initally made before the hardcover came out. With some of the unique names in that story it was particularly hard to get the spelling right. Same thing with The Crypt and Nocturnal. Trust me, though…the most important part by far is the information added. ———–Gmork – Wiki Czar and Thwackacutioner

The Siglerpedia is a group effort to create the best reference for the Siglerverse that we possibly can. We *all* make mistakes. Even the Grammar Nazi & the Wiki Czarina. Anytime someone else notices, it’s their duty as a loyal Junkie to point it out so that future Junkies will not be contaminated with misinformation.

I’ll go double check the spelling in the hardcover. As a quick check, the old GFL site does have it spelled as ‘Choto’ instead of ‘Chodo’ but as the hardcovers are gospel, I’ll double check. Funny you mention redirects, because when UV first wrote this article (which is very awesome btw) I went through the whole wiki and corrected the spelling of the name where ever it occurred. I also redirected the page that has it spelled with a D to the one spelled with a T. Anyway…after confirmation of the spelling, I’ll correct the redirect and spellings if necessary.

Oh and re:Virak, I believe you are correct..no ‘c’ in the name. Old GFL page confirms no ‘c’ but as with Choto, I’ll double check and correct where necessary.

Thanks

EDIT: Hardcover edition of The Rookie spells Choto the Bright with a ‘T’ so no changes necessary there and the redirect from Chodo to Choto will remain in place. Hardcover also confirms Virak with no ‘C’. Corrections and redirects complete.

…….in the Siglerpedia. I think we have to do a redirect to a new page with the correct spelling. I forget how to do that. It’s been a *long* time since I’ve done it. Circa when Scott invented Pope Siglericus XXXth.

We also need to go in an make sure all of the spelling of Virak is correct. Some of them are, some of them aren’t.

Can’t think how we can have both MP & Team Sigler going to the same page anyways. They’re totally different things.

Feel free to frak with the way I did it. You ARE the Czarina, after all. I set it up with a sparse Team Sigler page and left the flushed out MP page alone. btw, I updated the MP page the other day while I was futzing about.

Team Sigler – She concurs with us about the definition. I’m not sure about the logistic implementation. I don’t even remember how to do a redirect and I don’t particularly want to re-write the whole MP page. Any thoughts on how to make that work?

Donna – I’ll get around to it eventually. I’ll ping her and see if she has something ready to go.

Excellent points all. I was thinking it a good way to recognize folks who obtained the hallowed rank but I do agree the amount of monitoring required would probably be prohibitive.
so, good choice boss!

Team Sigler – definitely merge with MP. We can adjust the mp page to accommodate. I am in full agreement about MP+A+FDO

DØM – Because of info sensitivity, write it up and sent it to A to approve, then wiki it

Donna Mugavero/MissInformation - agreed that all of the dead links to Donna should redirect to MissInformation. Here again, I would recommend doing a write up and passing it by her then wiki it. Not sure how connected you are with her but if you run into any issues send it to me and I can pass it by her.

And as always, thanks for taking an interest in the wiki and taking the time to contribute!!

imho, wiki-ing pushers would tread in dangerous territory as it would require nearly constant monitoring for updates.

Pusher status defined as crack hits earned is something that could change quite freuqently, especially in our previous environment where one could gift crack hits to another. It’s hard to think of it in that way because the functionailty has been disabled for a while, but trust me, it will be a lot of work. The only list I know of that we could use is the list in the left margin labeled “Highest Crack Hits”. If you click on the “more” button it will show you the list of all forum users by the greatest number of crack hits to the least. This list is only a list of how a junkie looks now, not what they’ve earned and given away. So altruistic junkies like JP and Shadygirl who have given away more crack hits than I’ve earned, would be left out.

Currently, the wiki calls out individuals based on the badges they’ve earned for either being a character in a story or one of the special bagdes for pimping to the nth degree for Sigler. My biggest fear in doing a wiki for pushers is leaving someone out.

For instance, treed (MC) only has 1226 hits now but he used to have something like 20K. He’s definitely a pusher, at least by the 3K forum standard.

My understanding of what a pusher is is not forum participation, however. Pushers are those who promote Siglerism in some way. Merely posting in the forums doesn’t make you a pusher IMHO. You need to be tweeting about Siglerism, putting up flyers, moving books on release days, etc. Anything that will help us to sell more books (or create more Junkies) and achieve global domination.

I just Checked the Wiki, and I noticed the Sigurd City Norsemen were not listed (PNFL) nor are they on the Galactic Football League Website http://www.galacticfootballleague.com/gfl_tiers.cfm. They are one of three teams mentioned in the book (Micovi Raiders, Outland Fleet Corsairs, and the Sigurd City Norsemen). I added in the Norsemen to the list, but now there are thirteen teams and the book specifically mentions there are only twelve teams. So what team shouldn’t be on the list?

Do we want a separate entry for this or a redirect to MastaPimp with a slight modification to MPs?

Fairly sure Team Sigler = MPs plus A & Scott.

Dark Øverlord Media

I’m not sure how much of the information I know is supposed to be public

Donna Mugavero

I seriously doubt she’ll write her own, so how do you want to handle this one?

She probably has one over at Geologic if you want to cut and paste it

Miss Information

All this needs is a redirect to Donna Mugavero, but I couldn’t do that for obvious reasons

I will not add these to the needs work page until you (Gmork) have a chance to peruse this and advise us how you want to handle things. I began with the intention of simply updating my entry and then got a little carried away

One for Ancestor (Original), and one for Ancestor (2010 rewrite) ? There could even be a Ancestor (differences) article that addresses the plot points, as well as an Ancestor (main page) that redirects to the 2010 rewrite (as that one becomes canon).

I’m more than happy to dive into Ancestor (both versions) like UV did and give a hand. UV’s domination of The Rookie is so powerful that I don’t really want to intrude, for fear of duplicating some effort of his. But I’m willing to join the Ancestor team!

Typing on an iTouch is a royal pain in the arse! I can’t believe you take the time to post on one. My fingers are so huge I sometimes hit three keys at a time. And the frakker never goes to landscape mode for me. I avoid typing unless I have to. Keep the tweets short and sweet, etc.

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A life vacant of laughter is not worth exerting the effort it takes to live it.

Um, UV, what were you trying to say about me? I may or may not put a pistol in your mouth depending on what you were trying to say. My bullet inventory is precious to me, and I’d rather not waste one. Pray, elucidate.

Thankfully the wiki has spell check so these issues don’t make it on the siglerpedia but I am just a lowly engineer. This means I can design you a jet engine but spell my name wrong on the approval paperwork. It’s a curse really, but it’s why god invented spell check!

I’m just doing the work when I have free time, and I know gmork appreciates the effort for the cause. It really is all in good fun! Besides this is the sort of thing I enjoy doing and leaves something for future junkies

,,naming characters after junkies is a rather recent trend in the Siglerverse. Nocturnal was the first full fledged push at including a lot of junkie name in a novel through the use of a contest. That all kind of converged around the creation of this forum here when this version of Scott’s site was rolled out. Scott would need to tell you how he chose character names prior to using junkies from the forum, but both Ancestor and EarthCore predate this site and the trend of using Junkie names.

And who says a limerick cannot be professionally done? Why, the one given earlier as an example could easily be incorporated into pre-marketing for The Starter! Think of all the new Irish Junkies that would swarm to the cause!

Ok, ok. I get it. Radically forward-thinking idea withdrawn.

And, on a serious note, thank you for the hard work on the wiki. I, and tons of other junkies, really appreciate the effort.

I agree with her because it’s the right thing. The wiki is where future junkies will go to look for information when they have questions about a certain character, story, or element from a sigler novel. It should be well maintained and done in a professional manner. That is why I put so much effort into my entries because I want them to be as right as possible for when people use them for information.

I don’t mean to get preachy but I do work hard on the entries I submit and I know Gmork works awful hard to maintain everything too. I take pride in that work.

course it doesn’t hurt that I don’t want to get swatted by a newspaper either…

I tend to think any race the FDO creates must be tougher than the French. I mean the Hurrah LOOK like sting rays and a sting Ray tool down Steve Irwin the crocadile hunter. I think we can all agree that the crocadile hunter could beat up all of France soooooo I’m pretty sure the Hurrah are stronger. That logic works right?

it probably has something to do with the Creterakians being able to fly. There’s some sciency stuff relating to the strong gravity wells that gas giant planets produce that doesn’t seem to jive with that theory, but we don’t know a whole lot abot Creterakian physiology just yet, so perhaps they are able to get around that problem. Either that or the Hurrah are just huge wimps.

I was gonna make some snarky comment relating the Hurrah with France, but when you look at their history, the French are some pretty badass warriors.

This actually is an interesting point. The Hurrah DID surrender to the Creterakians, but in a passing reference, the Hurrah are mentioned to be the only species who could survive on Gas Gaint planets. Why the Hurrah did not stand their ground as the Creterakians could not land shock troops on their planets, I’m not sure is entirely understood. The Whitok were able to defense their planets with superior underwater technology and the Quyth were the only species who could survive on Irradiated planets; Given these two examples, I’d posit that the Hurrah, were they not spineless, could have potentially kept their independance too.

However you ARE correct. as Such I have corrected the Wiki, Maybe we’ll hear more on this in The Starter

Hey JunkiesJust wanted to let all y’all (plural for y’all) know that UnknownVariable has been churning out some outstanding new pages over at the Siglerpedia wiki. Here’s a list of the most recent pages:

Also if you’re interested in contributing to the wiki but don’t know where to start, check out the Articles Needing Expansion page where it links to the pages that need the most love. As always, don’t worry about formatting, it’s the information that’s gold. Thanks!

I’ve been a little bad at announcing recent changes to the wiki but I wanted to ensure you junkies had the chance to congratulate Sacha Kerckhoffs (junkie zZzacha) on being a character in The Crypt.

*salutes*

Commander Sacha Kerckhoffs is now listed on the main Crypt page and the character page can be found here. The character was only introduced in episode 5 so as the character is filled out in future podcasts, so will the wiki description.

-Yvone and Bryce, getting mentioned and killed all in the same episode………… i guess those of us mentioned in episode 13 are gonna be part of a mass murder when the nocturnals spread out onto the streetsgood work, gmork, well donehttp://www.pgholyfield.com/maah/

As the wiki updates span all the works of the Siglerverse, I’m starting this post to keep you all informed as to what’s been updated.

Feel free to add any updates you make to this listing and if you currently aren’t contributing as of yet, definitely feel free to jump into the wiki and help update the topics….the more people contributing the better it will be!

EDIT: If you’re interested in contributing to the wiki but don’t know where to start, check out the Articles Needing Expansion page where it links to the pages that need the most love. As always, don’t worry about formatting, it’s the information that’s gold. Thanks!