This may be old school but I thought all rag top Jeeps could also be fitted for a hard top, that they were interchangeable? I don’t think they have a big tow capacity. Besides, if you got nothing to tow, why worry?

Buy what suits your needs. If you have a BOL that’s well stocked you shouldn’t need to haul a wharehouse behind you. Consider if you need more seat room for people or more cargo to haul.

I have 4WD but it’s a must up here. I also wanted something I could sleep in if the need arises. Comes from being asked to leave many a great relationship at 1am.

This may be old school but I thought all rag top Jeeps could also be fitted for a hard top, that they were interchangeable? I don’t think they have a big tow capacity. Besides, if you got nothing to tow, why worry?

Buy what suits your needs. If you have a BOL that’s well stocked you shouldn’t need to haul a wharehouse behind you. Consider if you need more seat room for people or more cargo to haul.

I have 4WD but it’s a must up here. I also wanted something I could sleep in if the need arises. Comes from being asked to leave many a great relationship at 1am.

I would be far more concered about faux military/militia/LEO’s showing up rather than the real thing. There’s already enough posers out there who claim they are former Alphabet Soup and keep a Blackhawk in their backyard.

I was heading south on 127 one morning. Group of cammo/military style vehicles pulled over. A jeep was broken down. Not that unusual, 127 heads North to Camp Grayling but it was unusual to see a vehicle broken down. As I pass, I noticed Michigan license plates. Military vehicles don’t have state license plates. In any state.

I would be far more concered about faux military/militia/LEO’s showing up rather than the real thing. There’s already enough posers out there who claim they are former Alphabet Soup and keep a Blackhawk in their backyard.

I was heading south on 127 one morning. Group of cammo/military style vehicles pulled over. A jeep was broken down. Not that unusual, 127 heads North to Camp Grayling but it was unusual to see a vehicle broken down. As I pass, I noticed Michigan license plates. Military vehicles don’t have state license plates. In any state.

Swamp, admittedly the only IT/programmer folks I’ve ever known are co workers in their own department but they always seem exasperated at those of us who don’t have nor want the tech skills they posess.

That said, while folks like Zuckerberg or Gates tout the future of AI, do you think those huge egoes would ever develop something they can’t control? Something that could be smarter than they are?

Swamp, admittedly the only IT/programmer folks I’ve ever known are co workers in their own department but they always seem exasperated at those of us who don’t have nor want the tech skills they posess.

That said, while folks like Zuckerberg or Gates tout the future of AI, do you think those huge egoes would ever develop something they can’t control? Something that could be smarter than they are?

anita wrote:And PS–glad to see you back! I thought you’d driven that Urban Assault Vehicle right off the edge of the earth!

Glad to see her back, too!

The blueprints came and boy am I overwhelmed ! I did get drawings for slab, crawl and full basement options included so I have an idea for mechanicals with each option. Going to study these for a while before I get cost estimates. I need to learn what the water table is here is. The soil is sandy so it shouldn’t be hard to punch a well.

anita wrote:And PS–glad to see you back! I thought you’d driven that Urban Assault Vehicle right off the edge of the earth!

Glad to see her back, too!

The blueprints came and boy am I overwhelmed ! I did get drawings for slab, crawl and full basement options included so I have an idea for mechanicals with each option. Going to study these for a while before I get cost estimates. I need to learn what the water table is here is. The soil is sandy so it shouldn’t be hard to punch a well.

Handyman, this is going to be propane. I checked with the utility co. and the closest natural gas is 2 1/2 miles away. Not enough homes in the area to justify the cost of bringing in natural gas. I do have electric at the road.

Just about every full basement that I’ve seen up here leaks. That’s when I found out rain gutters are not required by code. I saw 1 home with a dry basement. They also had rain gutters.

The thought of a full basement with glass block windows is appealing, but then there’s the price.

Handyman, this is going to be propane. I checked with the utility co. and the closest natural gas is 2 1/2 miles away. Not enough homes in the area to justify the cost of bringing in natural gas. I do have electric at the road.

Just about every full basement that I’ve seen up here leaks. That’s when I found out rain gutters are not required by code. I saw 1 home with a dry basement. They also had rain gutters.

The thought of a full basement with glass block windows is appealing, but then there’s the price.

As an LEO, I had a Chief who at 45 lbs overweight still jogged every day and I saw skinny guys who couldn’t scale a 6′ chain link fence.

In the day before FEMA, etc disaster response services were cobbled together of Red Cross, LEO’s and some volunteer firefighters. To feed us, a volunteer named Harry would show up. He looked like Santa dressed in fatigues.

Harry had been an Army cook when they had such a thing. He also had a mess tent and a complete trailer fitted as a rolling kitchen. He could throw a meal together for 25 on short notice with preps from his kitchen on wheels and kept us fed 24/7 for days. Tho he no longer moved fast he had a lot of stamina.

I’d take a guy like this over somone with a 30″ waist who learned all his skills on YT.

As an LEO, I had a Chief who at 45 lbs overweight still jogged every day and I saw skinny guys who couldn’t scale a 6′ chain link fence.

In the day before FEMA, etc disaster response services were cobbled together of Red Cross, LEO’s and some volunteer firefighters. To feed us, a volunteer named Harry would show up. He looked like Santa dressed in fatigues.

Harry had been an Army cook when they had such a thing. He also had a mess tent and a complete trailer fitted as a rolling kitchen. He could throw a meal together for 25 on short notice with preps from his kitchen on wheels and kept us fed 24/7 for days. Tho he no longer moved fast he had a lot of stamina.

I’d take a guy like this over somone with a 30″ waist who learned all his skills on YT.

I’m not suggesting head for the tourist campground but you can make yourself aware of service roads, two tracks, etc on federal or state land that can get you safely off the beaten path for a time.

I wouldn’t squat in someone’s unoccupied seasonal deer camp or vacation cottage. One thing I learned is that many owners up here have a ‘signal’ at their remote location that shows those in the know that the camp is occupied. Friends have one of those decorative seasonal flags they put out when they’re at camp. No flag & people there? Tresspassers.

I agree with Cadit, most people will head home & stay put. Something about human nature.

I’m not suggesting head for the tourist campground but you can make yourself aware of service roads, two tracks, etc on federal or state land that can get you safely off the beaten path for a time.

I wouldn’t squat in someone’s unoccupied seasonal deer camp or vacation cottage. One thing I learned is that many owners up here have a ‘signal’ at their remote location that shows those in the know that the camp is occupied. Friends have one of those decorative seasonal flags they put out when they’re at camp. No flag & people there? Tresspassers.

I agree with Cadit, most people will head home & stay put. Something about human nature.

I’m not suggesting head for the tourist campground but you can make yourself aware of service roads, two tracks, etc on federal or state land that can get you safely off the beaten path for a time.

I wouldn’t squat in someone’s unoccupied seasonal deer camp or vacation cottage. One thing I learned is that many owners up here have a ‘signal’ at their remote location that shows those in the know that the camp is occupied. Friends have one of those decorative seasonal flags they put out when they’re at camp. No flag & people there? Tresspassers.

I agree with Cadit, most people will head home & stay put. Something about human nature.