These people are examples of how not to live. I would recommend giving biographies of decades known rock stars with bad drug and alcohol problems to the addicts you know, provided you read them first and they are suitable to the purpose, which often they will be. Even if the collaborating rocker thinks he is coming off as hip and cool, he won't, he has been living in a dreamland of hangers-on, ridiculous excess, and constant adoration. I almost got one of my friends to read Motley Crue's bio The Dirt but then he started bringing a laptop to the job he was reading it at it, and that was that. It is unfortunate because that book is entertaining and teaches how sex addicts, drug addicts and alcoholics only get unhappiness in the end for all their addiction.

It is sad that no one who does any good will ever be a positive example for the mainstream and if they are, it is only their co-opted, recuperated image that can ever become widely disseminated. I don't think it is an accident that the most famous celebrities are actors, who after-all just simply read lines and pretend to be what they are not, they are not creative artists, they are fakers. They want to send us a structural message that we should worship and emulate those fakers and live vicariously in the land of fantasy what we will never get.

These people are examples of how not to live. I would recommend giving biographies of decades known rock stars with bad drug and alcohol problems to the addicts you know, provided you read them first and they are suitable to the purpose, which often they will be. Even if the collaborating rocker thinks he is coming off as hip and cool, he won't, he has been living in a dreamland of hangers-on, ridiculous excess, and constant adoration. I almost got one of my friends to read Motley Crue's bio The Dirt but then he started bringing a laptop to the job he was reading it at it, and that was that. It is unfortunate because that book is entertaining and teaches how sex addicts, drug addicts and alcoholics only get unhappiness in the end for all their addiction.

It is sad that no one who does any good will ever be a positive example for the mainstream and if they are, it is only their co-opted, recuperated image that can ever become widely disseminated. I don't think it is an accident that the most famous celebrities are actors, who after-all just simply read lines and pretend to be what they are not, they are not creative artists, they are fakers. They want to send us a structural message that we should worship and emulate those fakers and live vicariously in the land of fantasy what we will never get.

Who pissed in your corn flakes, bro? This thread was just to remember a talented musician who died too soon, not to climb on a soapbox and feel smug.

I was always a fan of metal, although not nearly as much these days as when I was a teenager. Back then, the heavier and more aggressive the music, the better. I really tried to like Slayer. I was never a big fan except for a couple of songs. I saw them live 4 times anyways, as they were often playing or headlining at a show where a band I wanted to see live was also playing. The pits for Slayer were some of the most brutal. Unfortunately, I never participated in a Slayer pit, even though pits were my favorite parts of shows back in the day. This was mainly due to watching too many people immensely brutalized leaving Slayer pits and knowing I would get crushed.

I have much respect for Slayer.

And I remember the classic, high pitched scream by random people at shows, echoed by fellow fans...

SLAYAA!!!!

This is an unfortunate event.

"Seek truth in meditation, not moldy books. Look in the sky to find the moon, not in the pond." - Persian proverb

Actually I don't do cornflakes. Most the ignorant hoi polloi in my nation will care about useless stuff like say Slayer, but not that most corn and other staple crops are GMO, so I avoid corn products like corn flakes, not to mention that it is too processed.

My philosophy is if you don't care about me, or anyone else, why should I care about you. So I don't really care about these vapid, selfish, complexed celebrities. This guy Hanneman choose to drink so much that he died an early death from all the liver cells he killed that eventually led to liver failure. He was an adult and he made his early grave through lots of hard work and time spent drinking, and he likely held many beer bottles up brazenly to salute thousands of fans and since many people love to be lost in the herd and want to get drunk like their so called idol, he likely promoted his bad habit that got him killed so early in that way.

Oh, I didn't get the memo that selfish rockstars who die decades earlier than they should otherwise because of their of extreme alcoholism are suddenly holy in death, just because some people on some messageboard want it to be like that. Funny enough on a mainstream metal gossip/news discussion site, people are more circumspect about what he represented in life and less sanctimonious about his "RIP holiness":Blabbermouth: SLAYER Guitarist JEFF HANNEMAN: Official Cause Of Death Revealed - May 9, 2013