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the moon orbits the earth like the earth orbits the sun. the moon has its closes point to the earth, has do the earth has its closes point to the sun (whitch is jan 6th at the moment and only has a variation seconds per year but its getting close now to being the 7th jan). but with the moon its takes 2,200 years about to be at the same point in the sky. and every 200 to 220 years it comes close to that same point in the sky. this is because of the earth orbiting the sun on a axis. and is the same reason why you get luna eclipses at the time near the equinox, the earths axis, the shadow of the earth is cone shape, so the moon picks up light from the sun over the poles has well has the sides, and when we are in or near the equinox (when the moon crosses the equator line) is the most likely time that the moon will pass though the earth shadow. and makes luna eclipses rare on the 21st june and 21st dec, and another thing that makes this odd, it the time of the day it taken place, luna eclipses normally happening apart from the rare ones like this, take place between 21-30 hours to 02-30 hours gmt.
the moon takes 27.3 days to obit the earth, but the phase cycle is 29.5 days.

southy, I haven't even bothered to try and fathom out what you are now trying to say.
The simple FACT is, despite all your waffle about the variations in the orbits of both Earth and Moon, there is the POTENTIAL for a lunar eclipse every 29.53 days - i.e. every full moon.
Every single day of our calendar can potentially coincide with a full moon and NO DATE has any greater or lesser chance of being either a full moon or an eclipse.
The peculiarity of the interplay of the variations of both bodies’ respective orbits produces the randomness of the lunar eclipses we actually do experience.
That, however, does NOT alter the FACT that all 365/6 days of our calendar have an equal chance of an eclipse.

no there is not, its because of the earth axis to the sun why it is rare to see an luna eclipses on or even near the dates of 21st june and the 21st dec, luna eclipses happen about 4 times every year, some times they be full eclipses others will be part eclipses, and it will depend on how close they are to the equinox of stage of the moon, whitch happens on the 21st march and 21st october.
because of the earth axis this gives the appearance of the moon crossing the equator, and will pass though the earth shadow, when moon is at its greatest point north or south of the equator the moon picks up light from the sun over the top of the poles, so you don,t get luna eclipses on the 21st june and 21st dec, and the moon passes over the top or underneath the earth shadow.
remember the earth shadow is cone shape.
and i just been told the reason why we are having this luna eclipse odd time of the year, its because of the earth natural wobble that it has on its axis.

.. the Earths axis has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with lunar eclipses, FULL STOP.
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To all intents and purposes, the Earth is a spherical ball. It casts a shadow in the direction of our satellite every full moon. Usually the Moon is a little above or below this shadow due to its orbital eccentricities – but sometimes it passes through this shadow to give a lunar eclipse.
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It matters not a single jot as to what angle the Earth’s axis is, or as to any particular time of the year it may be.
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Planet Earth is ALWAYS a spherical ball casting an almost IDENTICAL shadow away from the Sun."

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More snow falls as Hampshire freezes

Postman Dave Martin, age 60, battles through the snow in shorts and T-shirt to deliver his letters in Hamble.

CHAOS descended on Hampshire for the second time in under a month as an Arctic blast of snow ripped across the south – and it could be set to continue with more snow falling today.

Over the weekend, trains were cancelled, planes grounded at Southampton Airport and motorists left spinning helplessly on black ice as up to 10cm
of snow blanketed the county in a matter of hours at the weekend.

But weather experts have warned there will be no let up in the bitter cold snap with bookmakers last night slashing the odds on a white Christmas.

A weather warning has been issued with snow currently falling across the county – and more is expected again tomorrow.

On Saturday, ambulance crews were forced to delay call outs to minor injuries and police 4x4 vehicles were out in force as emergency services battled to keep up with a flurry of 999 calls on
Saturday morning.

Temperatures plummeted to minus 10 c in rural parts as icy winds swept across the county in what has become the coldest December in decades.

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Those who had to take to the roads were faced with treacherous conditions – even though Hampshire County Council’s fleet of salting trucks had been out in force overnight in a bid to keep key
routes moving.

Motorists were reduced to snail pace on the M27 when the downfall was at its heaviest on Saturday, with outer lanes completely covered.

The A3 was shut both ways close to the county’s border at Bramshott, resulting in miles of tailbacks for beleaguered drivers.

The disruption over the weekend failed to stop an army of shoppers descending on Southampton in what was one of the biggest retail weekends of the year.

Police advised partygoers and anyone heading for a night on the town to “dress appropriately for the weather”.

And drivers were urged to pack warm clothes, a flask of hot drink, food, a shovel and a fully charged mobile phone, in case they got stuck.

NHS bosses urged patients to help reduce the pressure on health facilities during the cold snap by only using services “when absolutely necessary”.

Pam Hobbs, Director of Finance and Resources for NHS Southampton City said: “The current snow, cold temperatures and icy conditions we are experiencing mean the NHS in Southampton is dealing with
exceptional circumstances over and above normal winter pressures.

“The local NHS and partner organisations are continuing to work together to ensure that patients still have suitable access to care, with a particular focus on those requiring urgent treatment.’’
At Southampton Airport, frustrated passengers had to wait that little bit longer to make their Christmas getaways after the runway was closed.

Staff worked through the early morning to clear the way for planes to take off and – despite a knock-on delays – services were back up and running by 1pm on Saturday.

A special timetable with fewer scheduled trips was rolled out by bosses at South West Trains and First bus announced a series of disruptions to its services on its website.

Meanwhile, thousands of families woke up to a winter wonderland on Saturday morning before pulling on their hats and gloves for some snow-based fun.

Hampshire could witness its first white Christmas in years, with bookies slashing odds.