I just looked at the 3TB Pipeline on Newegg and it only shows a 1 year warranty. I thought they would offer more.

The hard drives now typically have a shorter warranty. And the ones that still have 5 years are expensive. But one year is certainly very short. All the 3TB Seagates I've purchased have a 2 year warranty.

The hard drives now typically have a shorter warranty. And the ones that still have 5 years are expensive. But one year is certainly very short. All the 3TB Seagates I've purchased have a 2 year warranty.

I'm thinking its a misprint on Neweggs part. If you look at that other Pipeline models they have 3 years.

If its as easy as slapping in the drive then weaknees should be arrested.

Maybe... But, we're breaking our the champagne (or beer) before we see a pic of the recording capacity, as well as other system info. Let's not forget the "Try filling the drive to capacity, then celebrate" approach...

I now have to retract a former statement that there will always be a need for pre-imaged drop-in-and-go drives (at least when it comes to the Series 5/Roamio).

Weaknees did report a 4TB issue, correct?

I wonder how they could overcome that, if all that is needed to get to 3TB is a bare and blank drive...

Now we need to know: Does it work with a non-AV-rated drive? Even if it does, has TiVo enabled using the streaming command set, finally?

What does the streaming command set do?

In the past I've never used an AV drive as a replacement drive in a TiVo and they always worked great. But I wonder if it will make any difference now in these Roamio TiVos using a non A/V drive since it is dealing with more read/write streams than in the past?

Booted again going through the set up. Its doing the usual "connecting to tivo, downloading, etc" Once it's done I will update with a status. It should be noted even in the setup you can tell how much faster this thing is.

Maybe... But, we're breaking our the champagne (or beer) before we see a pic of the recording capacity, as well as other system info. Let's not forget the "Try filling the drive to capacity, then celebrate" approach...

Yes. Assuming everything else looks ok, amseven11 needs to be using all four tuners recording for the next few days to fill up the hard drive to make sure there aren't any issues.

Booted again going through the set up. Its doing the usual "connecting to tivo, downloading, etc" Once it's done I will update with a status. It should be noted even in the setup you can tell how much faster this thing is.

In the past I've never used an AV drive as a replacement drive in a TiVo and they always worked great. But I wonder if it will make any difference now in these Roamio TiVos using a non A/V drive since it is dealing with more read/write streams than in the past?

In the most basic way I can put it (for brevity's sake):

An AV drive acts/reads/writes/seeks & uses the same exact error correction protocols, as a non-AV drive, UNLESS the device it is in, and the software used, support and enable the ATA Streaming Extensions command set. Then, the software will tell the drive to process the AV data streams with a whole different form of error correction. It can tell the drive to only use it for the AV data, and use the standard error correction protocols for the databases and non-AV data, and there can be different "zones" on the drive for where each kind of data goes.

This whole forum is full of posts over many threads with a TONS of false information on AV versus non-AV, what it means in a TiVo, and what it means in a computer. It's also one of those half-truths I didn't like about DVR_DUDE's advertising.

This brings up other questions... Is all the software related stuff on flash? (i.e. the DB, guide data, settings, etc...) And only recordings are stored on the HDD? Or Once you go through setup does it put some of that on the HDD? What happens if you remove the drive after setup and put a new one it? Does it just reset and repeat setup? Or does it remember everything and just lose the recordings? If only recordings are stored on the HDD could you simply image a smaller drive with recordings on it to a bigger drive, drop it in, and have the TiVo automatically expand to fill the extra space?

Hey guys just a update, its going through a system update then I should be good to go for the system info screen. I dont have cable installed yet for TV so I can't test actual recording (which is why you see U-verse box on my stand) but hopefully Charter will be out here next week. They have to install a new drop first so that part sucks but anything I can do to help I'm more then willing.

If they put a firmware image on there, then it's highly likely it includes everything that's needed to get things going initially... guide data and settings would have defaults and it would get other stuff online from TiVo mothership.

This is pretty good news. I might just buy a 2TB Red drive to drop into the Plus I have coming next week. I can keep the original drive as a spare/backup.

This is great news, indeed, but if I have to buy another drive and then void my warranty by opening the box, wouldn't it still make more sense to buy the Pro over the Plus? It's still "only" going to be about $100 more and I don't have to worry about warranty issues.