Seismic Event : Holocaust Denied on German TV in Major Interview (video)

This stunning interview of Frau Ursula Haverbeck on German TV has been described as a “seismic event.” For the first time ever on German TV, a major public figure has had the courage to deny the Holocaust.

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I watched this interview earlier on the Truth Seeker. She is a very brave woman. She will no doubt be subject to abuse by the usual gang of caterwauling cockroaches crying holocaust denial. She can also expect to be arrested and charged with denying the holocaust and the producers of the program will no doubt also face arrest. Such is the new “free” Germany. She reminds me of Winifred Wagner, the English daughter in law of the composer, who told the US occupiers after the war that she still admired Hitler and regarded him as a friend. Frau Ursula Haverbeck is a true German woman in the mold of Leni Reifenstahl and Hanna Reitsch. I guess I will watch Triumph of the Will tonight.

What can she offer to the world that hasn’t already been offered by revisionists who have uncovered the truth about WW2 and met with imprisonment and fines? David Irving was thrown in a cell and he was very much a public figure and historian. As long as there is a state in Germany and a government to be bought, then the truth on history will always be hidden and those who question it with facts punished.

Harbinger
I couldn’t agree more. I first read David Irving in the early 70’s. Back then he was still highly regarded by the mainstream, even appearing regularly on TV as a respected historian. However the Jews didn’t like his honesty and integrity and set out to destroy him. They were eventually successful and got him banned from visiting a number of countries. One of the most insidious features of Jewry is their viperous ability to network and conspire across the globe. So if one sees a Jew or a snake coming for you, kill the Jew first! You know what the snake will do, but you won’t know what the Jew will do.

“Was there any shady undertaking, any form of foulness, especially in cultural life, in which at least one Jew did not participate? On putting the probing knife carefully to that kind of abscess one immediately discovered, like a maggot in a putrescent body, a little Jew who was often blinded by the sudden light.” – Mein Kampf

My problem is more with the non Jew than the Jew, because they vastly outnumber them, but willfully accept the control put upon them by them. If I take the UK, you’ll find that the anti liberty Acts being foisted upon society are being implemented by NON Jewish law lords. It’s like what I wrote in my last reply about the armed forces. You or I standing in a bar having a drink wouldn’t go and kill a man over there we didn’t know, if someone came up to us and told us to. On the contrary this is what the armed forces do and how many Jews within them? How many Jewish 5 star generals are there?

We stop wrong in society by questioning it and stopping it, as the woman in the video is doing and many have tried before her. The only problem I see, is that until the non Jew stops following the orders of the Jew and fights for overall liberty within society, nothing will ever change. Therefore, I will state that the anger should be foisted upon the non Jew than the Jew, because there are far more non Jews than Jews in this world and therefore they’re the greater threat.

Well people are waking up and therefore they need to force people to kill others in order to enforce their new world order. There is no way on this earth that I’d EVER, EVER, EVER, kill another at the orders of another. There’s no way on this earth that I’d EVER, EVER, EVER fight in the parasite, royal family’s and Rothschild assassin, armed forces.

I don’t vote.
I’m not on the electoral register.
They have no authority over me whatsoever.
It’s only the morons who vote who would be conscripted.

You wrote: “This Magnus Dux Polonorum person reminds me of a Saudi who called in to Galloways Comment, and === kept insisting that the Saudi slaughter, from the air, of thousands of Yemens, the injuring of thousands more, the almost total destruction of their infrastructure, the prevention of aid reaching Yemen, is being carried out to protect the Saudi people ===”

Funny you should say that, because, in case you didn’t notice, its exactly what you’re friend Harbinger has been doing for past several comments:

“Germany defended herself against western attack. Do you realise this?
Yes the Germans killed and? What about it?”

He implies that nazi Germany exterminated ~3.000.000 ethnic Polish CIVILIANS (and not Jews – mind you!) to quote-unquote “defend herself”. Naturally, it also applies to some 27 million Soviets as well as many other tens of millions murderd during the nazi German occupation of Europe.

The hypocrisy of this particular kraut is simply unimaginable. Even the jewish term “hutzpah” cannot describe his falsness.

She is great, very smart, quick and has all the knowledge required to discuss the subject and return any volley tossed at her. I am not convinced they’re going to arrest her. What we need now is another German to write or say something similar and then another and so on. But that most likely will not happen

She is absolutely correct. The lying, deception and kowtowing to Germany’s former enemies and Jews is disgusting. The former enemies and Jews are disgusting enough, but what Germany subjects its own people to is also very upsetting.

However, I think the time might have arrived where there is so much evidence to counter every Jew and allied lie that maybe they won’t arrest an 87 year old German woman. In one of Germar Rudolf’s speeches that is on youtube he said that if the Germans stood up and rejected the accusations against them regarding the so called “holocaust” they could expect a military attack on them by the WW II allies. He said this in seriousness and that was a real possibility twenty years ago. I don’t think that statement applies any more.

HOLOCAUST USA
Most Ashkenazim in prison are non-believers but soon become aware from sadistic guards and inmates that they are a hated Jew. Overt violence is uncommon against the passive outcast but threats continue daily. One of the scare tactics used is creating the fear of getting eyes poked out while asleep. This keeps the terrified person awake for days resulting in hallucinations. Being verbally isolated can be psychologically devastating. Dozens of creative scare tactics are utilized by savages and bullies. Upon discharge the Jew is forever traumatized with horror filled nightmares.

The kikes of your tribe are sent to country club prisons and they’re treated with the utmost respect — they even get kosher meals and everything else hebe kosher as well. The country club prisons come complete with swimming pools. Go f8ck your polRATnick.

Bongo beats start playing in the prison yard as a celebration for the entry of a new white inmate. He soon will be making phone calls to his family, not to say hello, but to wire funds for guys named Rufus and Pedro. The toughest white dude is no match for the non-white gangs that lurk in the prisons toilet or TV rooms; they will not murder the goose that can pay for their heroin habit, bitch slapping the dude a few dozen times is enough to get him on the phone to his family.

“….And that is connected with the Paragraph 130 [of the German Criminal Code] Racial Incitation…..they passed the paragraph by a majority and the paragraph, which in its language is already an absurdity – it says, namely, that “a punishment of up to five years in prison or a fine will be assessed on anyone” – and then comes a reference to international law – “who approved of, denies or minimizes the crimes committed by National Socialism.”“

In other words:

“If you dare attempt to revise history and find the truth amongst the lies already expressed as the written truth you will be punished.”

How utterly hideous.

Ironically, it is no different to the race acts passed previously in the UK in the 60’s and all other European lands which have this bill. As is the right for freedom of speech and freedom of expression in this world, we also have the freedom to like or dislike whomever we choose. It is for these reasons that I am so against any state that decides how I should live my life, whom I like, dislike, should employ etc etc.

It is for these precise reasons why we should have no governments and no states because they will always be nothing more than lobbyists for higher powers. No man or woman has any dominion over any other, unless they expressly state that they have. Any man or woman who seeks to impose authority over those whom do not give consent is acting as a tyrant. People who condone this behaviour, that is pretty much everyone who votes and allows governments and states is sadly no different to the tyrants who enforce their authority upon those with permission to.

The control of the state over the people doesn’t happen over night, like a frog in boiling water, but quite the opposite. It happens through instituting liberty destroying ‘contract acts’ over a period of time, predominantly under the radar and of course, ignored by the msm. Sure, you have the odd controlled liberty organisations expressing their concerns, but in all reality, people just go back to their reality TV and sports, munching on their Big Macs with 1% meat and slurping down their high in stomach rotting acid coca cola.

This is indeed a seismic event, but nowhere near as seismic as Kim Kardashian’s arse or another deadhead celebrity’s life, people just love to engross their own lives within.

You sound really worried about going to prison, Melvin. What did you do now? Don’t do anything illegal, less chance of getting arrested, lol, then you won’t have to worry so much about being thrown into prison, you stoopid hebe.

The most telling revelation of her experience was when she said that she was told by legal experts, paraphrasing… “If the 6 million figure is questioned, the whole post-war political system will fall apart.”

I say, Good…. Keep questioning. They show and admit FEAR of words.

Their Pharisee system is MUCH WEAKER than is portrayed by the ‘so smart and shrewd’ weasels…. and their MSM..!!

Holocaust is the KEYSTONE in the Lie’s Triumphal Arch.
Pull out this keystone and the arch instantly collapses, and
the world is liberated from Jew

jew knows this perfectly, this is the whole secret of kabbalah, the remote control of goy golem is within this keystone, hidden to most but in plain sight to a few of us.

this is the great, ugly spider at the center of the entire web of occult evil within which the world is caught spellbound and devoured alive, life juices sucked out.

the holocaust lie protection law is universal and the only law that really matters on earth, every department of the fukus governments is devoted exclusively to freakishly tending to this requirement, other duties just window dressing.

in the immortal words of Robert Burns,

Here’s freedom to him who would speak,
Here’s freedom to him who would write;
For there’s none ever feared that the truth should be heard,
Save him whom the truth would indict!

(i am sure the coprohagic spirituality has saved an extra vat of rabbinical feces and semen to boil burns for having said that, hate laws are retroactive into antiquity, just ask jesus, shakespeare and burnsie)

For all you who hate America so much: It is ESPECIALLY here, in America, where this fine lady’s interview needs be aired as often as possible. It is primarily OUR responsibility, now, to reveal these ‘non-crimes’ in light of the crimes we, ourselves, have been conned into committing. Once again, her words about the impossibility of procuring supplies near the end of the war plainly explains the REASONS Patton found starving inmates at Buchenwald. (I have to wonder if even Patton had fallen prey to propaganda lies before his encounter, there. Certainly, others who were part of that ‘liberation’ encounter never wrote anything about ‘poor Jews’ or criminal ‘atrocities’ – just about the starving inmates they found.)

The results of The Lie have as far-reaching implications against US (we, the living) as anyone. Maybe more.

what IS seismic and i mean it.
not the fact that another brave soul risked freedom, life and limb to state the truth,
but that the truth was broadcast on a major german media network.
and all the screeching of the damned will only help grease the skids under the lie.
its downfall is as inevitable as the precession of equinoxes, because the crack will only widen, bit by bit, however tiny.

in fact, this is how seismic events, quakes, volcanoes and tsunami happen, or even the lesser ones like avalanches and rock slides.

their arrival is unannounced, effects dramatic.
the big broom will sweep the garbage of the protocols in one swing.

and potluck will wonder how come the much vaunted shrewdaic shrewdihood of the shrewdes did not see it coming … hey Shrewd, don’t make it baaad …

forgot to add.
there is no doubt that airing this was an act of sabotage by somebody high in the network.
as in, “och mein gott, das ist ein mistake!!! so sorry, we will put the worms back in the can, toothpaste back in the tube, you just watch, heheh”.

there will be public crucifixion and burning at stake cut from the amsterdam tree of anne frank, distinguished survivors like elie wiesel holding hands with angela smirkel (i can’t help but think that the old stasi had a hand in it, typical move worthy of putin, public pro-judaic grunts while waging a war of contra-deception) in poses of pious dejection.

another point worth highlighting happens around 28:25, when the interviewer asks about the hiatus between publication of her book (publisher is norbert frei, of german institute for contemporary history) and the time public at large caught on, in 2013.
she says:

But you know that Germans are all afraid … To that extent, fear of the consequences for one’s career and one’s fate really was much more pressing then than it is today.
Today one can say more, because meanwhile more contradictions became evident. That wasn’t possible then.

what does this mean? that despite the false flag of 9-11 that engendered the false war on terror and the patriot act and wholesale repression of civil liberties and suppression of the freedom of speech that 9-11 was designed for, the pushback also occurred and people are slowly catching on, faster in some countries than others.

that keystone is wobbling loose …

i think that this is the most important message i take from this interview.

Not sure how popular this actually was in Germany, but the kikes will no doubt fine or imprison her, and then schedule a shitload of holohoax movies, documentaries, and TV shows to counter what she said and keep the remaining Germans in line.

The Holocaust is fantasy, but if there’s justice in the world, it’s prophecy. If Whites ever throw off their shackles and finally bring this criminal, demonic race to justice, we can do to them exactly what they claimed happened to them during WW2. Gas chambers? Good idea! Thanks, Jews! All your lies turned out to be somewhat helpful after all.

well, panorama talk show seems to be nationally syndicated and not too scared of controversy.

There were many attempts to gag Panorama, yet none succeeded in the programme’s 50-year history – neither threats from politicians nor lobbying by big business. These days, disputes are conducted in Germany’s courts rather than in public. Time and time again, stakeholders try to prevent a particular report from being broadcast or attempt to sue afterwards, yet the programme continues undeterred.

so there you go yet again.
nothing remotely this truthful on the entire north american continent.
who to blame, the authorities or the disinterested public?
i would say both, it is a synergy that jew exploits to the hilt.

Germans and Europeans in general can’t do anything, not even if they realize that the Holocaust was a laughable hoax and that Jews are evil. Jewish control of the continent is backed up by NATO and American bombs, and the 60,000 American troops still stationed there, not to mention hundreds of thousands more than can be there within 24 hours if any European nation rises up and tosses out its Jews and traitors. And jew-loving KGB golem Putin will happily assist in wiping out European nationalism; it’d be WW2 all over again, because the jews still own both countries.

Europe can’t be freed unless either the American or Russian government is dismantled. Preferably both. This most likely won’t happen, as both Americans and Russians are Jewish slaves who would sooner kill one another than ever raise a finger to an ugly, blood-soaked criminal kike.

In spite of the whole holocaust story, one cannot forget that the Jewish victims (even if we were to agree on the very contoversial 6 million figure) of the Nazi Germans, were but a tiny fraction of the total WW2 death toll in Europe.

Let me remind you that Germans under NSDAP rule had, inter alia, devised so called “racial theories” (borrowed from their ideological mentors in America – along with Eugenics and the like – the people behind Rockefeller Foundation) under which not only Jews, Blacks and Gypsies, but also all Slavic peoples (which constitute the predominant majority of the European continent) were categorized as “Untermenschen” – subhumans), and were to be treated accordingly.

22% of pre-war population of Poland perished under the Nazi Germany occupation (the highest death rate of all Nazi occupied nations per capita; per face-value second only to 27 million Soviets). That is no hoax, nor has it, to the best of my knowledge, even beer challanged by historians. I’ve never heard, anyway, of a single revisionist who would dare undermine those well established facts.

What does that tell you? Assuming the holocaust, that is to say – in its official version – really is a sham, that does not make Nazi Germans nice people to hang out with. Regardless of the high possibility of the 6-million story being a myth, GERMANS still were mass murderes who attempted and partly succeeded in genociding whole nations.

Personally I couldn’t care less for Jews. Their martyrology (regardless of whether one prefers to stick to the mainstream version or not) is not my problem. Poles along with Russians, Serbians, Czechs, Slovaks et al. HAVE THEIR OWN LEGITIMATE GRIEVANCES with respect to the genocidal policies of the Third Reich.

How do we know any of this is true what you’ve written?
You’ve quoted Jewmedia’s Wikipedia, a highly questionable source of information, founded on porn site money.

And what of Germany? What was so bad about it trying to reclaim the lands taken unlawfully after WW1, another war created by the Jew bankers? Remember they asked Poland access to Danzig and they refused so naturally Germany went to war with them. And as for the Poles, the west is now flooded with them, undercutting all tradesmen and making the unemployed queues grow, while they make money to send back home and increase the value of the zloty.
Jew lapdog Churchill launched a war against Germany. Chamberlain had peace and if Britain had not got rid of him, all those British, German, American, French etc troops would not have died along with all the civilians.
Germany would have taken back Prussia and the Sudetenland and reunited Germans but the west didn’t want that.

What we did, the west in going to war against Germany was far worse than ANYTHING Germany did – PERIOD!

I’m affraid you’re utterly deluded. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I if get it right, you suggest that, quote “What we did, the west in going to war against Germany was far worse than ANYTHING Germany did” meaning e.g. that bombing Dresden (500.000 victims, and mind the chronology!!! Dresden was only a retaliation, hopelessly unproportional in comparison with tens of millions murdered by Germans) is WORSE than genociding DOZENS OF MILLIONS of civilians? If so, something is terribly wrong with you.

As to the wikipedia, it only serves as a vehicle or a source repositorium if you will. What matters is the footnoses and URLs put therein. If you happen to have any credible historical data at your disposal that would put those facts and numbers in question, please DO SHARE.

The economically driven exodus of Poles to the West (mainly UK) historically is a direct consequence of the West Allies’ betrayal of Poland after WW2. In return for the Polish military being 4th largest contributor to the victory over Nazi Germany, Churchil in collusion with FDR sold Poland to Stalin. Perfidious Albion yet again. Polish war heroes weren’t even invited to the London Victory Parade, but that’s a separate story.

As to the more recent causes, it is simpy a result of the so called “fall (in reality, a planned implosion by the 5th column of you know who) of Communism” and adoption of the western-style liberal capitalism, which so far ruined countless economies from Pinochet’s Chile (thanks to Jew “advisor” Milton Friedman, the apologist of the so called “Austrian” school of Economics, all founders of which were Jewish: von Mises, Menger, Hayek, Rothbard etc.) to Spain to Poland to Russia and all the rest of the Commonwealth of the Independant States.

In simple terms, liberal capitalism turned the nations of the so called New Europe into the colonies of the West. It serves as both, a very attractive market and a surplus of nearly-free labor force. It is virtually a form of neo-colonialism. In exchange for sinecures, the leaders of the subserviant states let themselves be bribed into disposing of multi-trillion-worth of national enterprises for a symbolical penny, thus turning their respective nations into de-industrialized Bantustans deprived of their hardly earned national wealth. The lobbyists of the western conglomerates make sure that labor-laws in their colonies are made in accordance with the Smithsonian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_wages so that the local populations have no other choice but to work for the proverbial bowl of rice (allusion to the PRC’s population economic conditions fully intended). The only option left is to leave for the more fortunate shores, e.g. the UK which, through ages of the merciless plunder of the 3rd world known as Brithis Imperialisme managed to amass enormous amounts of wealth at the expense of the rest of the World.

Besides, the supposed predominance of low-wage workers among the immigrants from Central Europe is a myth. Yes, there are some, but apart from them, there are legiond of most skilled specialists, e.g. surgeons, physicians, IT engineers and so forth. It probably hurts both economies, the Metropoly and the Colony, but the impact on the latter is incomparably greater, as the nation loses its substance, its elites which, given the economical circumstances, are most probably never to return.

You have been unable to understand the simplicity of the point I was making to you in my reply –

BRITAIN AND THE WEST STARTED THE WAR WITH GERMANY AND AS A RESULT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS CAUSED IN THAT WAR. THE MILLIONS THE GERMANS KILLED WERE AS A RESULT OF THE WEST STARTING THE WAR AGAINST GERMANY.

The above is a simple fact so anything else you have to say is meaningless.

WW2, like WW1 was started by Jewish bankers. Western politicians, under the employ of Zionists, started WW1 & 2. This is a short reply to yours because it’s all that needs to be said.

“THE MILLIONS THE GERMANS KILLED WERE AS A RESULT OF THE WEST STARTING THE WAR AGAINST GERMANY.”

I’m not sure if I follow your logic: what you’re trying to say is that West Allies forced Germans to murder millions of CIVILIANS – Is that right? How come? Were the Germans kept at gunpoint by GB/US and ordered explicitly to exterminate dozens of millions of innocent non-military men, women and children?

Sorry, I don’t buy that and I believe no reasonable, intelectually honest person does. That rhethoric is so grotesque that it transcends the surreal. Most importantly however, it simply doesn’t hold water.

Let me put this straight: do not get me wrong, I am as vehemently opposed to the Jewish supremacism as you are, and I believe Germans do have their legitimate grievances too (especially in relation to the WW1 humiliating reparations and the so called holocaust). But that does not change the fact, that it was them who started the war by annexing Czechoslovakia and subsequently invading Poland. It was them who occupied the whole Europe and victimized almost every nation under their yoke.

As a human, I do understand their anger directed at West Allies who bombed Dresden into oblivion. But we mustn’t lose sight of and keep in mind that this act of barbarism (non the less) was simply a response for countless cities bombed out of existence, like e.g. Warsaw during 1939 invasion of Poland and then again in 1944 during the Warsaw Uprising.

We mustn’t forget who started the whole thing. Who was the victim and who – the butcher, regardles of banksters’ machinations.

Jewish supremacists are no angels, but neither were their counterparts – the nazi Germans.

Are you stupid because you are still unable to understand the point I was making that being –

THE WEST STARTED WWI & II.

Are you following this? There was no need to fight Germany. The people who wanted a war with Germany wanted one so that they could create the society we have today – a depraved, degenerate, immoral one full of immigrants from the third world who will eventually become the majority and destroy the indigenous minority.
Germany defended herself against western attack. Do you realise this?
Yes the Germans killed and? What about it? They were being attacked, under the order of Jews, from people, who were also their kin, who didn’t know them.

I’ll spell it out to you

NO WESTERN STARTED WW1 & 2 means NO DEATHS. Do you understand this? The blame lies solely on the war makers – the allied forces.

I have serious doubts concerning your mental capabilities. You can’t seem to understand I get your point of view fully, it’s just that it simply is total bollocks.

“Germany defended herself against western attack. Do you realise this?”

I assume you refer to the so called “preemptive strike” theory (which is pitifully inaccurate) BUT – and that is MY POINT – you don’t “defend yourself” by ruthlessly exterminating milions of CIVILIANS. Killing armed combatants is a different story. Now you get it?

It wasn’t about defence, it was about conquest and pan-European (or even global in the long run) hegemony. PERIOD.

You don’t understand my point.
The resultant deaths of WW2 were cause by allies launching a war on Germany. You really can’t understand this simple point.

HAD BRITAIN AND THE WEST NOT DECLARED WAR ON GERMANY THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO WAR.

Now do you understand this? The deaths during the war were the direct result of the west launching a war against Germany, Germany defended herself. You are without a doubt the biggest moron I’ve ever had the displeasure of debating with.
The millions of deaths you speak of ARE BECAUSE THE WEST STARTED WW2. You and your infinite stupidity cannot fathom this most basic statement and have the audacity to bring about my mental condition.

NO WESTERN STARTED WITH GERMANY = NO 50 million or so deaths.

Now you either understand this or you don’t. I just think you’re a zionist troll.

Come on, we’ve heard all your lies ad nauseam. You wrote “Let me remind you that Germans under NSDAP rule had, inter alia, devised so called “racial theories” (borrowed from their ideological mentors in America – along with Eugenics and the like – the people behind Rockefeller Foundation) under which not only Jews, Blacks and Gypsies, but also all Slavic peoples (which constitute the predominant majority of the European continent) were categorized as “Untermenschen” – subhumans), and were to be treated accordingly.” I guess someone should have reminded Hitler of this before he shook Jesse Owens hand and congratulated him on his Olympic gold medals. Do you have any evidence to back that up? After so many lies by the allies and Jews have been exposed you’re going to have to do more than cite Wikipedia, any document in English or any of the historians, particularly from the allied side that have completely discredited themselves and the allies claim to be the “good guys.” They were the bad guys, the war mongers that started WW II. Any “proof” would have to be a wartime document (written in German of course, do I really have to remind you of that, LOL) signed by people in a position to order such a thing and with the appropriate stamp (top secret, etc.) indicating it is not another phony document created by the allies to frame the Germans.

It was the allies, France and England that started WW II when they both declared war on Germany in early September 1939. The war began immediately between the German and British navies. And the British sent over their soldiers to France and forward to the German border to prepare for their planned attack. Germany never desired a war, particularly in the west and continued to offer the British peace even after they threw the British army into the sea. The problem of course was the Jews had paid off Churchill and Churchill was not prepared to accept the “peace offer” and once again appear to be a failure as he had been on every occasion before in his life, most notably at Gallipoli.

The allies excuse for attacking Germany was supposedly because Germany attacked Poland, a country created twenty years earlier at Versailles. If this is so, why didn’t Germany attack England for its brutal treatment of Indians at that time and how come no one attacked the USA when it attacked Afghanistan and Iraq in the early 2000’s? Why are the allies, who have lied repeatedly taken at their word.

These are the countries Germany was dealing with. The violent, racist, nutty Poles and the war mongering English stand out. The following is from Gerd Schultze Rhonhof’s fairly new book:

Upon its creation Poland persecuted the large ethnic minority population they had (about 1/3 of its population) and the British were well aware of this. Many of Poland’s 5 million Ukrainians were coming into British Canada. Over one million Germans fled Poland. Jews fled to Germany or thru Germany to somewhere else. It was a huge humanitarian tragedy – and our history books are completely silent about it. [my note: Why the silence? So as not to damage the reputation of Poland as the victim of the big, bad “NAZIS.” Otherwise people might say why didn’t the British broker a deal to avert war]

Hitler appealed to the British and French for the remaining one million Germans in Poland to help solve the problem in 1939. He had the non-aggression pact with the Soviet Union and thus was free to attack Poland, but continuously put it off saying “I need time to negotiate”. Instead of noting that at Nuremberg they insert a phony quote suggesting he wanted war.

Immediately after WW I the Poles seized the German provinces of Posen and West Prussia. They did this before these territories were ever granted to them by the victorious powers. West Prussia was at least 70% German by population. In 1918 and 1919 the Poles claimed for themselves parts of Pomerania, Silesia and East Prussia as well, something that was not conceded to them by the victorious powers. In 1921 Poland began an attempt to take all of upper Silesia from Germany. Three times in 1933 Poland proposed to France a two front war against Germany (which of course France declined). In 1938 Poland annexed the Czech region of Teschen and with it the German town of Oderberg. Between 1918 and 1939 Poland had attacked the Soviet Union, Lithuania, Germany and Czechoslovakia, and in some cases attacked these countries several times so England designated Poland as a “rogue state” in today’s language.

In the last ten days before the war Hitler wrote to the Italian gov’t and the French gov’t and the English gov’t in order to avert a war.

Shortly before the outbreak of war the German gov’t presented the Poles with a 16 point proposal for the resolution of German-Polish differences. The Poles refused to accept this proposal into their hands so this proposal had to go to Warsaw via London. [my note: it shows how the British guarantee given to Poland in early 1939 of going war against Germany if they attacked Poland worked. Now the Poles felt no need to negotiate and return German land with ethnic Germans living there to Germany]. There is a discrepancy on exactly how this came about. But according to Duff Cooper (top politician and close to Churchill) as published in his 1953 volume of memoirs “Old Men Forget,” his wife did not read the Sixteen Points, but rather heard them on the radio when they were broadcast by the BBC, belatedly, on 31 August 1939:

“On the morning of September 1st I played golf at Goodwood. I never played worse. I couldn’t concentrate on the game because I was thinking of what had happened the night before. We had listened to the eleven o’clock news and had heard the German sixteen points to Poland given out without commentary. I was horrified. And was the more horrified because Diana [his wife] hearing them said that they did not seem to her unreasonable. I tried to explain to her how they meant the end of Poland, but I felt that the reactions of millions of people might be the same as hers.

“I rang up Winston, who said he felt exactly as I did, but that he had already spoken to the Daily Mail, who were inclined to take a favorable view of the German proposals. . . . I then got on to Camrose [William Berry, Baron (later Viscount) Camrose, owner of the Daily Telegraph and other papers], who also agreed with me. . . . I urged that the Daily Telegraph should come out with a strong leading article condemning the terms.”

The English ambassador in Berlin, Henderson appealed to the foreign office not to announce the 16 point offer over British radio.

So the British wanted a war with Germany. They did not want Poland to accept a German offer and in fact would do what they could so Poland would not accept a German offer.

Speaking of the offer after the war, French historian Rassinier said if the French and British people had known about this offer Paris and London would not have declared war against Germany without releasing a storm of protest which would have imposed peace.

In the last ten days before the war there were intensive negotiations between Germany and Britain. The Poles refused to negotiate so everything had to go thru London.

On the very afternoon before the beginning of the war Hitler gave approval for Goering for negotiations with the English ambassador in Berlin in order to avert a war and solve the Danzig problem without hostilities.

In speech by Hitler about Polish / German issues the allies at Nuremberg inserted this sentence in a speech by Hitler to make it appear he wanted war at any price so they could use this speech as evidence against the chief defendants..

“My only worry is that at the last moment some swine will present me with a plan for mediation.”

MY COMMENT: The allies did everything they could to start WW II while Germany did everything they could to avert the war and when it was over the lying allies framed the Germans.

They weren’t theories. They were entirely in line with biological reality and in keeping with the better elements of the Enlightenment.

22% of pre-war population of Poland perished under the Nazi Germany occupation

The Polish government started the war, and they paid the price for being so stupid as to trust the lying British government to defend them when they did so. Anyway, I doubt that figure. The Germans brought rough justice, but the Bolsheviks were the exterminationists, not the Germans. Do you still think the Germans killed all those Poles at Katyn?

What does that tell you? Assuming the holocaust, that is to say – in its official version – really is a sham, that does not make Nazi Germans nice people to hang out with.

What does this mean? Jews instigated a global war against Germany simply for peacefully electing a government that sought to revive their culture and economy. They had to defend themselves.

GERMANS still were mass murderes who attempted and partly succeeded in genociding whole nations.

Oh yeah, German soldiers were harshly reprimanded for so much as looting, and we’re supposed to believe they went around shooting millions of civilians. Get real. The German army was practically a humanitarian force compared to the allied minions.

Fuck off with this shit. If the Germans were running around shooting everyone they could, the Waffen SS wouldn’t have been made up of 60% non-German volunteers, and one million Russians wouldn’t have volunteered to fight in the Wehrmacht.

“They weren’t theories. They were entirely in line with biological reality”
– whoah! Let me digest it. Are you saying that the genociding of tens of millions Central and East Europeans by German ivadors was justified and, as a matter of fact, an act of benevolence? You’re for eugenics, aren’t you. Would you have enough hutzpah as to repeat this foul statement looking into the eyes of the family members of 3rd Reich’s victims?

Damn, Ms. Lasha, I did not know you allow genuine racist scum on your blog. Pardon me for the faux pas.

“The Polish government started the war”
– you mean the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident ?? Being a historian myself, I can only laugh sneeringly at the level of ignorance induced by the propaganda machine in the West. I always knew WASPs (especially Americans) were historical ignorants, particularly in regard to the history of Europe, but seeing you reiterating one of the most well-exposed and well known to be fallacy LIES of the propaganda, I coulnd’t help but burst into chorting with laughter. Although, I think, weeping over the success of the mainstream media propaganda would be more appropriate.

“Jews instigated a global war against Germany simply for peacefully electing a government that sought to revive their culture and economy. They had to defend themselves”

You call genociding 50+ million people “self-defence”? Hardly a partner for a factual debate.

This Magnus Dux Polonorum person reminds me of a Saudi who called in to Galloways Comment, and kept insisting that the Saudi slaughter, from the air, of thousands of Yemens, the injuring of thousands more, the almost total destruction of their infrastructure, the prevention of aid reaching Yemen, is being carried out to protect the Saudi people. This selfish, indifferent attitude, is down to the brainwashing of gullible citizens, by a dictatorial, and repressive governing regime..

Are you saying that the genociding of tens of millions Central and East Europeans by German ivadors was justified and, as a matter of fact, an act of benevolence?

No, I’m saying there was no genocide on the Eastern Front on the part of the Germans. And BTW I had two grandparents in the German camps, and they both survived. Their family members didn’t survive Bolshevism.

Talks between Germany and Poland over the Danzig issue were going well until the British got involved. They goaded the Poles into stopping the negotiations with the promise that the British would support Poland if Germany ever invaded. This was a ruse of the Brits (who were owned by the Jews) to instigate the war. So the talks were shut down, the Polish government started abusing German minorities, and Hitler invaded to put the violence to an end. And the British, lying backstabbers that they are, left the Poles and their incompetent army to get steamrolled.

You call genociding 50+ million people “self-defence”? Hardly a partner for a factual debate.

First of all, genocide is a noun, not a verb, secondly not even the most insane tipsnipper claims that the Germans exterminated 50 million people. Where did you get that figure?

Reprimanded? Please, they were outright encouraged to target civilians. And we’re talking supposedly politically impartial, ordinary soldier of Wehrmacht, not the SS-fanatics:

Just read through the sources on that Wiki page, they include some Israeli named Bartov, the fanatical German communist Hannes Heer, Hugh Sebag-Montefiore of the Sephardic Jew banking cabal, and Raphael Scheck, head of Jewish studies department at Colby College. I’m supposed to trust these shitheads?

Rape was punishable under the Rassenschande Laws. There were no mass rapes committed by German soldiers, only by the Allies. There may have been individual rapes by Germans, just as there were individual crimes (I think it was Sepp Allerberger’s memoir where he stated that a Ukrainian woman was mistakenly hanged as a Soviet spy, for example), but unfortunately this happens in every war. The difference was that with the Allies, rapes and executions were encouraged, whereas with Germans they were punished and seen as crimes.

The German commanders- typically old school Prussian types, conservatives, not National Socialists- refused to follow Hitler’s order to have murderous Bolshevik commissars executed, you actually think they would have tolerated their soldiers mass-shooting civilians? Get lost.

Gotta say though, I hope that massacre of 1500 niggers actually happened. When the rotten French brought their black minions into defeated Germany after WWI they were unleashed on German women and girls, whom they predictably raped and defiled. They produced a group of mongrels called the Rheinlandbastarden; black Germans who shamed the nation. I can only imagine that German soldiers had sweet retribution on their minds when they returned to France to teach those white niggers a lesson.

SPQR said: “No, I’m saying there was no genocide on the Eastern Front on the part of the Germans”.
No I have certainty you’re in lallaland. I have eye witnesses in my own family, you dumbass.

“Ingrid, based on his name he’s probably a Pollack (…)”.

Wow, how ingenious. Eureka! Of course I am a proud Pole, I thought that was clear from the beginning. It only shows that your ubermensch brain is not that uber… you racist kraut filth. See, that’s why you krauts are destined to repeat history. You exterminate millions of people, then attempt to turn things upside down and have the nerves to actually demand something from your victims? The extent to which you’re hypocrisy goes is beyond comprehension.
I wish the Allies did 1000 Dresdens and the Soviets raped 1000x more kraut women.

“No, I mean this. Skip to 10:00:”

Oh my God. You’re for real? Since when exactly are youtube videos considered a credible source under the methodology of historical sciences? GTFO with you’re hate speech-filled agit-props. I know you jerries will do anything you can to deny your genuine guilt. You’re a nation of mass murderes and I don’t mean jews. Until you accept it as historical fact, you’re doomed to get more dresdens in the future.

I don’t know Mr. Kaminski personally, but I assume if he reads this vicious hate-filled antiPolish fallacies, he refuses to publish on this portal ever again.

“First of all, genocide is a noun”

Well, I learned from “the best” – this is how your (I assume) mentor David Duke uses it, along with such laughable blunders as “ethniciCIty”.

“He probably still thinks the Germans committed the mass executions at Katyn” – I don’t have to believe anyone, since president Putin had the guts to finally admit the crimes of the Soviets. It is a well known fact, no-one in Poland thinks it was the krauts. In contrast to fritzland, Polish kids are learnt facts, not propaganda.

“Just read through the sources on that Wiki page, they include some Israeli named Bartov, the fanatical German communist Hannes Heer, Hugh Sebag-Montefiore of the Sephardic Jew banking cabal, and Raphael Scheck, head of Jewish studies department at Colby College. I’m supposed to trust these shitheads?”

Trust whoever you chose, however, I bet those particular sources refer to the german crimes against jews, and not Poles. You’ve got yourself an answer.

Peter said: “o you have any evidence to back that up?”
From the top of my head, ad hoc: Mein Kampf? Hello!

“Immediately after WW I the Poles seized the German provinces of Posen and West Prussia BLABLABLABLABALBALBLA”

Not West Prussia but Pomorze Zachodnie and not Posen but Poznań (actually an ancient Polish capital similar to Quedlinburg for germans in the mountains of Hartz). Those were all ETHNICALLY POLISH territories, which Prussia stolen in the course of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partitions_of_Poland

Why do you think Poznaniacy (the inhabitants of Poznań) rebelled against the Prussian invadors in 1848 and 1919? They were Poles and it was their land.

Moreover – and I know this might shock you, and you may perhaps even become a self-hating kraut – but the original Slavic territories extended as far West as BEYOND the Elbe and Saale rivers and so a significant portion of contemporary german population have serious admixture of Slavic blood. Over the centuries the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polabian_Slavs simply got germanized, but obviously, remained ethnically Slacvic. So to all you racist anti-Polish or anti-Slavic kraut fucks: you better check you’re genealogy thoroughly.https://wiernipolsce1.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/mapa_slowianie.jpg (the light pink-ish colour)

In six years of mostly living in India and Southeast Asia, the Asians and Indians all agree on one thing with the tourist populace: Slavs and Jews are no good. This is about all I need for Magnus’ outbursts. The outsider is always the best judge of character. Their favorites are, of course, Western and Northern Europeans, for their general civilized manners and respect they show to the locals.

He quotes from Jewpedia, a biased, faleshood based, porn website funded website, there to promote disinformation. Therefore, I’ve given him a link below to wintersonnenwende.com where he can find truths instead of the lies he’s used to believing.
He’s a pole (a people who are not only breeding like rabbits, but invading every western land to steal jobs from the indigenous) and naturally angry about history. The only problem is, his people should have given Germany rightful access to Danzig and Prussia, lands stolen from Germany through the Polish corridor, but they wouldn’t. The so called ‘resistance’ was a Jew run, thug outfit. He is so filled with hate for Germany that he can’t see the wood for the trees. In other words, he’s your archetypal, msm brainwashed automaton, who does nothing but babble the BS he’s been programmed to think is fact.

I agree with you Ingrid (first time I might add) that what Magnus stated was utterly despicable.
As much as I loathe Jewry, I wouldn’t call for their extermination, only the leaders such as the Rothschilds et all.
Dresden was a holocaust (Greek meaning ‘whole fire’) whereas the holocaust™ wasn’t anything to do with fire, but more to do with allied bombing of supply lines and starvation of camp prisoners as a direct result. To call for the rape of any woman (or man) is utterly despicable and Magnus, is, as you say a jewified, brainwashed pole, still seeking revenge for perceived ‘crimes’.

@LSPM
“In six years of mostly living in India and Southeast Asia, the Asians and Indians all agree on one thing with the tourist populace: Slavs and Jews are no good”

What a load of crap. Have you got any documents to support this bizzare statements?

Let me tell you that e.g. during the Euro 2012, the British so called “fans” were notorious for acts of vandalism, picking fights and binge drinking in the pubs etc. This is unfortunately a common theme of the British footbals fans in Poland, I’m not exagerrating.

not to needlessly repeat what harbinger said, you might be right.
which automatically means that you might be wrong.

i note that the poles have traditionally been used as a cat’s paw to accomplish someone else’s designs.
this happened in the run-up to ww2 and is happening right now in ukraine, where poles are pushed to cause trouble and eventually get smacked down by the russians.
again.

it seems they never learn from past mistakes and are eager to repeat them.

even in terms of victimhood, they were convenient dupes of the 3-card monty the jews pulled on them, so that drunken young jews and their sluts come ostensibly to weep at auschwitz but in fact barf and shit all over and the poles must clean up.

instead of making nice with powerful and economically progressive neighbors, they always fall for the jew’s ploy and end up holding the bag and going back to “defeated” enemy, cap in hand, asking to do menial jobs.

i think the time has come to stop blaming others for own misfortunes, maybe once but not to make it into a cottage industry.

right now, they should be the useful bridge between germany and russia instead of pissing them both off.
in fact, one polish general did go public about that (and probably got cashiered after having been stripped of medals and ribbons).

and no, spqr, i quite disagree with your assessment of putin, in fact, diametrically so, but we both know this already.
the time will tell … maybe sooner rather than later.

The problem is, just like her hegemon, the US, Poland has herself a ZOG. That’s why you see things like Polish President going hand in hand with Ukrainian neo-banderovtsy chauvinists, the ideological descendants of Stepan Bandera’s UPA, Ukrainian Insurgent Army that in most gruesome way imaginable murdered up to 200.000 Poles in Volhynia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia
Ordinardy Poles have no say in the country’s politics. You can’texpect ordinary folk to applaud or approve of Mr. Komorowski fraternizing with the butcher Poroshenko (real name: Watzmann).

Darkmooners:
Ursula Haverbeck is only one part of the awakening of Germany. Ernst Zundel’s lawyer in Germany, Sylvia Stolz also started speaking tours to expose the truth of the Holohoax and the stupidity and unconstituitional nature of Paragraph 130 and other such Holocaust denial laws. For Sylvia Stolz’s bravery, she was disbarred and sent to prison. Germany today is in the same situation that Germany was in from about 1924-1925 to 1933. Adolf Hitler and his book Mein Kampf, woke Germany to the control int’l jewry had over Germany then. Ursual Haverbeck and Sylvia Stolz are serving the same purpose today. I think Germany trying to get America off the back of Europe and removing int’l jewry control of Europe are linked. This time however, besides American hegemony in Europe and int’l jewry control as well, multi-kulti, migrant workers, and Islamophobia will be used to bring about another Hitler, but will actually be more of a Stalin. This new Stalin will be worse than any other dictator in history and will probably be the final Antichrist with the help of the false prophet Pope Francis. As I have said before, the right kind of leaders are installed the world over, except in Europe, France and Germany mainly, at this time. Obama, Putin, David Cameron, Jinping, Benjamin Netanyahu and Pope Francis in particular. These events in Germany need to be like a snowball rolling down a snow covered mountain. Despite this hope, int’l jewry is still involved as the chessmaster using the chessboard and the chesspieces. Like Ursula and Sylvia, we must expose/resist these lies and machinations, even if it is as the Star Trek Borg say, resistance is futile. We must however make the effort with the help of Jesus Christ. Thanks, Norbert.

“This new Stalin will be worse than any other dictator in history and will probably be the final Antichrist with the help of the false prophet Pope Francis. As I have said before, the right kind of leaders are installed the world over, except in Europe, France and Germany mainly, at this time. Obama, Putin, David Cameron, Jinping, Benjamin Netanyahu and Pope Francis in particular.”

So… you believe …. the Pope is in on the NWO. That seems to be a common theme for many these days. Some claim even from the time of Constantine.

I am interested in YOUR proof about the Pope, not blaming the good Catholics, who might be taken in.

Come on Pat, I thought you were smarter than that. In the blog on Jews as Aliens, I commented that the Vatican and this Pope, are pushing an Alien Deception agenda as some Jesuits are trained as Astronomers and the Vatican has telescopes in Gandolfo and Mount Graham, Arizona looking for Alien (ET) life in the universe. The telescope at Mount Graham, Arizona is called LUCIFER. This pope has also said he would gladly baptize ET’s into the faith if they came to earth. Many politicians, but America presidents mainly, have also discussed Aliens openly. The Alien Deception agenda is on and the Pope is part of it. Biblically, the current Pope is behaving like the False Prophet, bringing the world’s religions together under one banner, the false church of Catholicism, which has its roots in Babylonian mysticism just like Talmudic Kaballistic Pharisaism (perverted Judaism). To check on the current pope’s NWO leanings and his False Prophet idealogies check out a website like: http://www.NowTheEndBegins.com and search for Pope related articles to see the Pope’s true colours and the papacy’s desire to control Jerusalem. Now as for Magnus, I agree that Nazism went off the rails due to groups such as the SS and the Gestapo, but your version of WW2 history is only somewhat accurate, but Harbinger is correct that the western allies of Great Britain, France and America, due to int’l jewry influence over government leaders like crypto-jews Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin, through Rothschild banking, it was the allies tactics that led to WW2. This can be confirmed by a youtube banned video called: Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told or Trutube.tv : Hitler’s War; What Historians Neglect to Mention. Also remember that the Nazis also were comprised of many jews at the top level. The reason for this is that they could direct campaigns against common regular jews and make their life miserable. This was done because the Zionists (Rothschild and agents etc.) wanted to make life so bad for jews that when Israel was formed, they would want to go there. The plan backfired because even under all the problems, jews would rather stay in civilized Europe compared to a worthless pile of Middle Eastern desert. Remember too that if 6 million jews were exterminated in supposed concentration camps (actually labour camps) during WW2, according to European population figures, that would mean there were no jews that could have gone to the new state of Israel. Even Red Cross records of WW2 show that in Europe there were about 6 million jews and that only about 200,000 to 3000,000 jews actually died in those labour camps. As for the 6 million number, the Zionists from Theodor Herzl’s time of 1896 onward always talked about that specific number and the int’l jewry newspapers got on the 6 million number bandwagon even just before WW1. Magnus, check out those video sources and you will gain some new understanding about what Zionists wanted from Nazism and what the real story was concerning the start of WW2. I tell you that if todays Palestinians had a spokesman like Hitler was for the Germans before WW2, the Palestinians would be in a 2 state solution. But the modern Israeli Zionist Nazis do not want that and will never agree to it. Thanks, Norbert.

You cannot assume with complete confidence that I follow your every word as you lay it out, as if I were you.
I always ask for clarification if I have questions. We all have various definitions for the same words and phrases.
SO…. I am ‘that’ smart…. asking questions. But, maybe I am NOT quite… ‘smarter than that.’

Even a postulation of Pope Francis being the false prophet of Revelation would suggest a state of being duped carried to its logical extent in lockstep with the protocolian goal for people to see evil as good.

It wasn’t BECAUSE of the SS and Gestapo, but more to the point, whatever would CONSTITUTE “going off the rails” gave rise to National Socialism BECOMING Nazism.

In effect, Nazism = the besmirching of Nat’l Socialism

Hitler was steered into power through the protocolian machinations. A classic example of what ensued in starting the war in Europe is succinctly stated by lobro with his “cat’s paw” reference of Poland.

AND…

THE NS DID NOT SEEK WAR!

But once it’s ugliness was underway came the cultivation of the smirch, and given that the victors write the history, it’s been milked for all it’s worth ever since.*

Now we have this brave German lady opposing the Great Lie of Holocaust. The controllers will spin it of course, but the fact remains that the treacherous cats are comin out of the dark bags and into the light of Truth.

*A way to look at things suggests that a true NS warrior carefully determines when killing is an act of defense – with a full definition of what is being defended, and with “NS warrior” not confined to its definition to imply former Germans. Also, a true “National Socialism” is what SHOULD have been formed on the North American continent and exemplified by the Iroquois Confederation, which IN TURN implies that it is NOT confined to the White Race.

Frau Haverbeck still oozes charm and intelligence and vitality at 87. Germans really are a noble but maligned people. I came upon a video of hers speaking in English on the same topic a few months ago. God Bless her and this video.

The German National Socialists (NSDAP) never referred to themselves as “Nazis” and anyone who uses “Nazis” without quotation marks is suspect in my learned opinion…more jooish tricks to get the dumb goyim arguing and infighting…as witnessed in the above time-wasting posts.

According to Eustace Mullins in one of his many informative YouTube videos which I cannot (can’t bother locating it now) said that the Nuremberg Racial Laws were Hitler’s quid pro quo to the Zionists for backing him.

Zionists needed joo persecution and anti-Semitism in order to get the well-assimilated German joos to high-tail it to Palestine, which is the precondition for the birth of Israel and then crazy Rothschild can have his private kingdom and become King of the Jews… I wrote about this in detail in an essay on my Home Page.

Mullins also claimed that the “zi” in “Nazis” stands for Zionists…Zionist Party… which is so gobsmackingly simple it is almost unbelievable.

Bottom line: if Hitler and the “Nazis” were racial purists (“evil racists”) why would they ally themselves with wops and japs, and chinks (before Pearl Harbour) and allow subhuman slavs, sand-niggers and jungle bunnies to serve in the Wehrmacht?…as SPQR would say.

Here’s one link but you can do your own google search for “Blacks in Hitler’s Wehrmacht”

Racial division and conflict among goyim is classic joo bait. Racial purity is strictly a joo obsession and pathology…this is why joos want goyim all artificially mixed together vis-à-vis wars and displaced refugees, including economic refugees escaping from deliberately joo-wrecked economies. This is why we must stand together and united to fight joos. Period! All else is Talmud on the cheap, as I think Lobro succinctly put it in an earlier post.

I love reading Norbert and lobro, and sometimes Pat! …. And Love Song doesn’t sound too much like a virgin!
Norbert, in particular, has an insight into many of my great references that adorn my London library resource of my grandfather’s. This was David Irving’s and Zundel’s most important point, as indicated by Norbert: “Even Red Cross records of WW2 show that in Europe there were about 6 million jews and that only about 200,000 to 3000,000 jews actually died in those labour camps.”
Oh yeah, and Yankee Hollywood, filled as it is with heinous JEWS, told the world that the horrible Germans, which they largely funded, evaporated/gassed/shot 6 million lervly Jews! Yeah, 6,000,000 of the ass-holes!~ … People on the ground always knew about 2.4 million Jews used the crisis of the war they created to “evacuate” to ports along the Palestine coast, where they became American-armed insurgents ready to mass rape and kill the Arab women and their men, children and family pets. It was all that ridiculous Torah injunction “to leave none breathing.” Hollywood made lovely movies about the poor, outnumbered Jews fighting the evil Arab hordes. Everyone would watch newscasts in the Jewish movie theatres about the brave Irgun and the hopelessly outnumbered Jewish cowboys. I’m looking at the pics right now of Jewish cowboys, complete with cowboy hats, low-slung holsters, and bullet belts around their miniscule chests!
Hence, we have Holocaust museums in over 60 nations. …. When I was a young teacher in Melbourne, Australia, I took my Year 12 students on the compulsory excursion to the Melbourne Holocaust Museum. I did not interfere when many of the kids made fun of the grizzly pics and artifacts and the head Jew went bananas at me. …. Ended up I offered to fight him in front of my charges, who wanted me to belt the shit out of him. I raised my fist to pump him and his lizard eyes welled with tears. All I did then was to tell him and his gangster-looking rabbis to “get f****d !” In fact, I kept saying “get f****d ad nauseam!” …. My students followed suit and started chanting, “fight, fight, fight” and we left, leaving our litter on the floor! Mind you I taught at a really tough school, which had many Arabs and German immigrants.

as for 200,000-300,000 dead assholes figure, according to the red cross, their records show something like 130,000 dead jews from all causes.
gorbachev released the red cross paperwork that the soviets confiscated at the end of ww2 after the archives were subpoenaed at the ernst zundel trial in vancouver (remember that charade, justice-for-chinese? but it was great entertainment on cbc, what with raul hilberg admitting that no gas chambers existed in german territories and a crematorium manager confirming that burning corpses doesn’t raise a stink – well, maybe it does when it is jews)

but since 1 jew means 2 assholes, you can see how the 200,000-300,000 number was obtained, it is just the question of which unit of measure you choose.
this is the occult meaning of that little splat (“*”) in jew G*d.

Look out, look out, the Jews are about; and they’re after your fingers and toes! …..
You’d better watch out! The Christian-Zionist magazine, Tomorrow’s World (May-April 2015) , has a dire “WARNING FOR YOU” from its editor-in-chief, R.C. Meredith: He says, be aware “of the dangers ahead” and quotes the TRUTH from The Times of Israel (Jan 21, 2015) : “Iran has built a 27-meter-long missile capable of delivering a warhead far beyond Europe and placed it on a launch site near Tehran.” … Note that a 27-meter erection is the biggest missile/phallic symbol in the world at present. I was in Tehran recently and have the photos! … The chicks lerv looking at it! …. And at me!
He then says that if you “are not a true Christian” like him, you are destined for “the Lake of Fire.” He adds: “Jesus was not a weak-looking , non-masculine, helpless young Jew who was defeated by the Romans. The Romans were the grand evil that Jesus rebelled against.” … In other words Jesus was not girly-man in any shape and form and was a robust, tough Alpha male – like most Jews wish they were!
So it was NOT the Jews of the Temple who drew Jesus’ ire, it was the naughty, evil Romans!
So all ye Christian-Zionists out there, get onto Jesus’ and the lervly, sweet Jews’ side of the equation and repel the beasts from the north south and east; and help set up the new Disneyland of a planet, which we will call the United States of Jewdom Out of Holy Jerusalem. … Support the USJOHJ! You will be much happier if you do! Convert now!

The TRUTH is out there and as Ingrid says, “This is why we must stand together and united to fight joos.”
Please use the word “JEWS” only and stop trying to slide away from the courage that such a true man as I have and the gorgeous, brilliant lady in the video! …. Please forget the crappy use of the word “joos.! Or such utter crap as Khazarian Mafia, etc!
If I tell a rabbi to “get f****d” I add, “that means you, you filthy JEW!”
As I have said over 95% of the planet’s 20 million Jews are Zionists, so as the GENOCIDERS that they are, they are fair game and should be universally HATED and SPURNED; just like Jesus told us to do!
Fight them in their theatres, in their porn and pawn shops, on the beaches, at Disneyland, etc and NEVER let up on the bastards! Give em their hell back! Make them want to hide under slimy rocks!
That is my motto as I travel the world, cuffing and belting them in public toilets and in smoky bar-rooms.
Join MAX’s war and king-hit a Jew today! Make em wish they were never born!

Frau Haverbeck has been at it for years. A very courageous women indeed. Whilst this is being shown on German tv, RT is pushing the big H for weeks now. That is not surprising because they -the Russians- ‘liberated’ Awitz after all. However, until 1958 nobody, not even their allies were allowed to visit the camp. Question is: why? Answer: they physically ‘ rebuild’ that place to make it fit to-days narrative.

If you look at the ‘ blue prints’ and ‘photographs’ published in the ‘best and most comprehensive book’ ever written on the the big H by Jean Claude Pressac, “Technique And Operation Of The Gaschambers” you have to ask yourself how it is possible that these primitive manipulations, some are outright fraudulent- the airphotos – for instance,published by the CIA in 1979, could survive scrutiny for decades. Some manipulations are, however, quite clever, but with to-days technology can be easily ‘un-manipulated’. For others a simple child’s play “spot the difference” is sufficient to unravel the manipulations. The emperor has NO CLOTHES!

To cut it short. I used the ‘ blue prints’ of ‘crematorium II’ converted them in a CAD program into 3D and cross referenced them with all the relevant photos and other ‘blue prints’. Result: the ‘Crematoria II and III’ with attached ‘GCs’ were in reality BAKERIES and nothing else.

So, when did the ‘Nazis’ start to transport these undesirables to this place? 1942. When did it become obvious that Germany would be carpet bombed to smitherines? 1942. Wasn’t it E. Mullins who said something like ‘that some people had to be taken out of the firering line’?

It is not true that the Nazis did not call themselves NAZIS. The political elite did. Goebbels actually had a little plaque printed front swastica\back star of david imprinted with “Ein NAZI in Palestina – A NAZI in Palestine”. I am looking at the picture of it right now.(LOL) Eichman (born in Haifa) was three times in Palestine. The 3d time the Brits threw him out!

That’s when I really started to look at the GWOAT.

In this context check out

conjuring Hitler
IncubationOfNazism

By Prof G.C. Preparata
Uncomfortable reading for some. Needless to say he lost his tenure

German citizens were the ones responsible for the death of many Jews who were sent to labor camps. They believed and agreed to the governments claim that all Jews were evil and should be arrested. Hard working Jews lost their jobs while those hate filled Germans kept quiet and allowed it happen.

Melvin Polatnick, you insidious Jewish troll! ….. You say, in your usual haughty, Jewish manner that “the German people believed and agreed to the governments claim that all Jews were evil and should be arrested.”
That’s what this site is ALL about mate! …. It is a given that “all Jews were/are evil and SHOULD be arrested”, water-boarded, stripped of their assets and either guillotined or put on a distant, desert island near Antarctica; where HItler’s U-boats can supervise them. as they blaspheme/ridicule/abuse Jesus, whose ideas on justice, truth and the correct LIFE, underpins/or used to underpin Western civilization and its achievements. ….. So don’t you Protocollish-Talmudic bastard try to make these columns REGRESS, as you Jews always try to do!
Put simply, ye great usurers, fornicators and murderers are the “progeny of the devil himself”, so you need to be helped to liberate yourselves back into the heavens in a suitable vaporized, spiritual form!

Harbinger
I agree with you up to a point. Yes, I also despise the non Jew who buys into the Jewish world view and swindle. However, nothing is going to change until a revolutionary situation occurs due to economic collapse or for some other reason. In order to take advantage of such a situation a small organized cadre is required. The path taken could either be violent or non-violent, like Gandhi. I must confess I am torn between the two. My better half says the way to go is non-violent, but there is my Irish demonic side which wants violence like the “Boyos” from the IRA. However I would target the banking system and stock exchanges, including assassinations of Banksters, stockbrokers et al. Also sabotage of the aforesaid. But this is of course hypothetical as I am 64 and suffer from chronic ischaemia. If I was younger?!

Chinese saying: “Kill the chicken to scare the monkeys”…which means making an example out of someone in order to threaten others. Or to give it a more American spin, any good ol’ boy will tell you, ‘You kill a snake by stepping on its head and cutting it off.’

Disclaimer: I am not advocating any violence to any human beings or even to any snakes, or to those who call themselves joos and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan, or any violence to the king of the serpent race, Herr Rothschild, though I’m sure Mad Max will have an antipodean position.

Thank you for bringing us this wonderful interview with Frau Haverbeck! I am in complete agreement with every word spoken by this dear lady. Because all of my grandparents had passed before I was born, I was “adopted” by a German neighbour who believed little Toshiyori needed a “Grossmutter.” As a consequence of that association, I never for one moment believed in the “Holocaust.” The German people are simply incapable of such a deed, whereas everyone on earth already knows that the Jews are the world’s indisputable Masters of Deceit. It is not too much to say that, for the Jew, lying is the highest form of Art. Please read Leaf 107, currently posted at http://www.organubl.com/ Thank you so much!

People like Frau Haverbeck have been telling us the truth for years, but no-one listens. Trouble is modern westerners are hypnotized into moron levels of intelligence by George Orwell’s televiewers – a situation being now fully compounded because of lunatic technology, springing out of the Internet, such as Youtube and its lies, sensationalism and fleeting impressions. In fact a new study by the Microsoft Corp shows that the Jews now have us where they wanted us all along: The average attention span of a Western adult is now a mere 8 seconds; which is compounded by the fact that adult males think of sex every 7 seconds! In reality the attention span is now down to 6 seconds! In fact the Microsoft report said that many people are now so dumbed-down and technology-dependent that they need a smart phone to remind them to have a drink of water. I find this true on this site where I am constantly badgered by short-attention-span idiots, who can’t concentrate enough to even read and understand short sentences. So I will broadcast a simple sentence which takes 5.9 secs to comprehend: “It is the Jews, my lambs!”

as you no doubt know, prof robert faurisson is an academic historian, if these credentials mean anything to you.
he is a revisionist, hounded 24-7 by jew power machine, through media, police, judiciary, diplomatic channels and politics, which means he must be extra careful not to make a slightest misstep and vet his sources with the greatest care, knowing full well that every bit of his punctuation is meticulously scrutinized by entire departments of hostile proofreaders.
he has been sued, fired from his faculty, jailed, arrested and assaulted violently by jews on the street.

look at this, for example, pay particular attention to the military court’s reasoning at the end

when [in 1944] two German soldiers, together with French criminals, intimidated French Jews in Nice and forced them to hand over money and jewels, the German court martial sentenced one of them to death and the other to twelve years imprisonment. The judgment, dated 11 April 1944, declared: ‘the fact that the violence in question was directed against Jews in no way excuses the perpetrators … THE GERMAN REPUTATION HAS THEREBY SUFFERED‘.

the german reputation has thereby suffered … does this say anything about the mindset of the third reich?
germans were always a noble and honorable race, since their wars against rome, it was noted in the memoirs of julius ceasar, statues were raised to german rebel chieftains in the circus maximus and the roman emperors staffed their trusted praetorian guard with german warriors.
read some of the bibliography, how strict was enforcement of the policy of the just treatment of the civilians in the east.
why would they all of a sudden “genocide poles” in clear reversal of all this massive evidence?
in yugoslavia, another country supposedly packed with untermenschen, various factions fought on the side of the third reich, yet also among themselves, notably serb chetniks against croat ustashe as well as the bosnian muslims and all of them against the communist partisans.
i think that something like (again, that magical genocide number “6”) 6 million yugoslavs perished, mostly due to internecine slaughter, germans had very little to do with that.
i would suspect that a similar picture emerges in poland.

“germans were always a noble and honorable race, since their wars against rome”
– I don’t think that senseless plunder of Rome in 455 BC by one of the Germanic tribes can be called “noble”. Do you happen to be familiar with the etymology of the word “vandalism”?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandalism#History_of_the_term

– I dont believe, either, that the total mass extermination of the ancient Prussians (the eponymous non-Germanic Baltic tribe after which the German state of Prussia was named) was an act of nobility.

So you see now, that Germans do have an entire tradition of mass murdering entire ethnic groups.

“why would they all of a sudden “genocide poles” in clear reversal of all this massive evidence”?

I can’t tell exactly, their ultra strong anti-Polish sentiment traces back probably as far as the emergence of the Polish state in the tenth century, when several of their military invasions were successfully repelled by Poles. After their spectacular defeat in the Battle of Grunwald 1410, their hatred only strenghtened.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grunwald

The question “why would they” is of lesser importance, what really matters is the fact that they DID it. Apart from the history books, almost every single Pole has a direct eyewitness in his or her own family. Thats why racist krauts like SPQR or Harbinger will never prevail in spewing their sickening propaganda calculated at totally white-washing the Germans and re-writing the history of WW2.

That has nothing to do with Jews and their holocaust machinations. You have to distinguish between those two aspects.

Is the lady in the video right and the holocaust an utter exaggeration/fabrication? YES

Did Germans, non the less, kill dozens of millions of Central and East Europeans they considered sub-human? YES!

Tell to an average Russian that they didn’t and you’re in for a free dental extraction.

“germans were always a noble and honorable race, since their wars against rome”
– I don’t think that senseless plunder of Rome in 455 BC by one of the Germanic tribes can be called “noble”. Do you happen to be familiar with the etymology of the word “vandalism”?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandalism#History_of_the_term

– I dont believe, either, that the total mass extermination of the ancient Prussians (the eponymous non-Germanic Baltic tribe after which the German state of Prussia was named) was an act of nobility.

So you see now, that Germans do have an entire tradition of mass murdering entire ethnic groups.

“why would they all of a sudden “genocide poles” in clear reversal of all this massive evidence”?

I can’t tell exactly, their ultra strong anti-Polish sentiment traces back probably as far as the emergence of the Polish state in the tenth century, when several of their military invasions were successfully repelled by Poles. After their spectacular defeat in the Battle of Grunwald 1410, their hatred only strenghtened.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grunwald

The question “why would they” is of lesser importance, what really matters is the fact that they DID it. Apart from the history books, almost every single Pole has a direct eyewitness in his or her own family. Thats why racist krauts like SPQR or Harbinger will never prevail in spewing their sickening propaganda calculated at totally white-washing the Germans and re-writing the history of WW2.

That has nothing to do with Jews and their holocaust machinations. You have to distinguish between those two aspects.

Is the lady in the video right and the holocaust an utter exaggeration/fabrication? YES

Did Germans, non the less, kill dozens of millions of Central and East Europeans they considered sub-human? YES!

Tell to an average Russian that they didn’t and you’re in for a free dental extraction.

“germans were always a noble and honorable race, since their wars against rome”
– I don’t think that senseless plunder of Rome in 455 BC by one of the Germanic tribes can be called “noble”. Do you happen to be familiar with the etymology of the word “vandalism”?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandalism#History_of_the_term

– I dont believe, either, that the total mass extermination of the ancient Prussians (the eponymous non-Germanic Baltic tribe after which the German state of Prussia was named) was an act of nobility.

So you see now, that Germans do have an entire tradition of mass murdering entire ethnic groups.

“why would they all of a sudden “genocide poles” in clear reversal of all this massive evidence”?

I can’t tell exactly, their ultra strong anti-Polish sentiment traces back probably as far as the emergence of the Polish state in the tenth century, when several of their military invasions were successfully repelled by Poles. After their spectacular defeat in the Battle of Grunwald 1410, their hatred only strenghtened.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grunwald

The question “why would they” is of lesser importance, what really matters is the fact that they DID it. Apart from the history books, almost every single Pole has a direct eyewitness in his or her own family. Thats why racist krauts like SPQR or Harbinger will never prevail in spewing their sickening propaganda calculated at totally white-washing the Germans and re-writing the history of WW2.

That has nothing to do with Jews and their holocaust machinations. You have to distinguish between those two aspects.

Is the lady in the video right and the holocaust an utter exaggeration/fabrication? YES

Did Germans, non the less, kill dozens of millions of Central and East Europeans they considered sub-human? YES!

Tell to an average Russian that they didn’t and you’re in for a free dental extraction.

you are basically dealing in unfounded allegation (“Did Germans, non the less, kill dozens of millions of Central and East Europeans they considered sub-human? YES!”)

but the fact is that you have this BBC poll: Germany most popular country in the world.
this was done in 2013 and i have a hunch that the gaps has widened since.
now, germany was not a colonial power of any significance, however you may claim differently.
yes, they did have a tiny chunk of china, where even today the excellent tsing tao beer is made and couple of african countries, like tanzania (where i can personally attest they are still well regarded by the locals) and someplace in west africa (benin?) but this pales in comparison to others, like england, france and belgium.
so when germans are well liked the world over, it is because people made up their own minds based on personal exposure.
they are fair, civilized and socially minded and their policies are generally the most generous.

so, whatever your personal or even broad polish opinion, the world views germans more favorably than any other nation.
there must be a reason for it.

I am not. If I am, it is only in the sense that I want people to remember, who was the invador and who – the victim. It was NOT Poland who invaded Germany and occupied her lands for six years, killing 3 million people and causing unspeakable damage to the infrastructure. It was the other way round.

I want to emphasize this, because nowadays, in the Internet era, any “SPQR” or “Harbinger” can write BS and present himself as a self-ordained expert and consequently there is lots of disinfo on the Web.

You must remember why Germans suffered: “Who lives by the sword, dies by the sword”, put in simplier terms: “You reap what you sow”. There would have been no Dresden 1945, if there hadn’t been Warsaw 1939/44.

“I want to emphasize this, because nowadays, in the Internet era, any “SPQR” or “Harbinger” can write BS and present himself as a self-ordained expert and consequently there is lots of disinfo on the Web.” :

SPQR said: “No, I’m saying there was no genocide on the Eastern Front on the part of the Germans”.
No I have certainty you’re in lallaland. I have eye witnesses in my own family, you dumbass.

“Ingrid, based on his name he’s probably a Pollack (…)”.

Wow, how ingenious. Eureka! Of course I am a proud Pole, I thought that was clear from the beginning. It only shows that your ubermensch brain is not that uber… you racist kraut filth. See, that’s why you krauts are destined to repeat history. You exterminate millions of people, then attempt to turn things upside down and have the nerves to actually demand something from your victims? The extent to which you’re hypocrisy goes is beyond comprehension.
I wish the Allies did 1000 Dresdens and the Soviets raped 1000x more kraut women.

“No, I mean this. Skip to 10:00:”

Oh my God. You’re for real? Since when exactly are youtube videos considered a credible source under the methodology of historical sciences? GTFO with you’re hate speech-filled agit-props. I know you jerries will do anything you can to deny your genuine guilt. You’re a nation of mass murderes and I don’t mean jews. Until you accept it as historical fact, you’re doomed to get more dresdens in the future.

I don’t know Mr. Kaminski personally, but I assume if he reads this vicious hate-filled antiPolish fallacies, he refuses to publish on this portal ever again.

“First of all, genocide is a noun”

Well, I learned from “the best” – this is how your (I assume) mentor David Duke uses it, along with such laughable blunders as “ethniciCIty”.

“He probably still thinks the Germans committed the mass executions at Katyn” – I don’t have to believe anyone, since president Putin had the guts to finally admit the crimes of the Soviets. It is a well known fact, no-one in Poland thinks it was the krauts. In contrast to fritzland, Polish kids are learnt facts, not propaganda.

“Just read through the sources on that Wiki page, they include some Israeli named Bartov, the fanatical German communist Hannes Heer, Hugh Sebag-Montefiore of the Sephardic Jew banking cabal, and Raphael Scheck, head of Jewish studies department at Colby College. I’m supposed to trust these shitheads?”

Trust whoever you chose, however, I bet those particular sources refer to the german crimes against jews, and not Poles. You’ve got yourself an answer.

Peter said: “o you have any evidence to back that up?”
From the top of my head, ad hoc: Mein Kampf? Hello!

“Immediately after WW I the Poles seized the German provinces of Posen and West Prussia BLABLABLABLABALBALBLA”

Not West Prussia but Pomorze Zachodnie and not Posen but Poznań (actually an ancient Polish capital similar to Quedlinburg for germans in the mountains of Hartz). Those were all ETHNICALLY POLISH territories, which Prussia stolen in the course of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partitions_of_Poland

Why do you think Poznaniacy (the inhabitants of Poznań) rebelled against the Prussian invadors in 1848 and 1919? They were Poles and it was their land.

Moreover – and I know this might shock you, and you may perhaps even become a self-hating kraut – but the original Slavic territories extended as far West as BEYOND the Elbe and Saale rivers and so a significant portion of contemporary german population have serious admixture of Slavic blood. Over the centuries the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polabian_Slavs simply got germanized, but obviously, remained ethnically Slacvic. So to all you racist anti-Polish or anti-Slavic kraut f***s: you better check your genealogy thoroughly.https://wiernipolsce1.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/mapa_slowianie.jpg (the light pink-ish colour)

In contrast to fritzland, Polish kids are learnt facts, not propaganda.

Oh yeah because modern Germany is just a hotbed of National Socialist thought. And how many Poles are taught about their abuse of Germans before and during the intervention? How many Poles know of the fact that even the Polish ambassador to the United States was disgusted by the war fever and anti-German hysteria that the Jews were whipping up at the time? How many Poles know of how their country was ruled by bloodthirsty Jewish communists who ACTAULLY committed genocide of ethnic Poles? How many Poles know of the hundreds of thousands of Poles shipped off to the gulags by treacherous Jews? How many Poles know of how the Jews greeted the Bolsheviks as liberators and allies as they ravaged your country? Probably very few. They’re too busy watching the latest kike movie about the holohoax.

Trust whoever you chose, however, I bet those particular sources refer to the german crimes against jews, and not Poles. You’ve got yourself an answer.

If you didn’t want to be invaded you shouldn’t have killed and imprisoned German civilians simply because the British egged you on. But now your country is run by Jews who are plundering your people, buying up your land, and importing blacks and Muslims to be their foot soldiers against you. Whatever you want to say about the Germans, you would have been better off under them than the kikes. The Germans may have a paternalistic attitude towards you but the Jews outright hate you, and want you all dead.

And I’m supposed to take your word for it, even though you question the credibility of my forefathers who suffered under the german boot? Give me a break.

“Yet Poles still believe in Jewish and Soviet bullshit about Germans “exterminating” millions of people ”

When will you finaly get this, moron: it’s not a question of belief, but KNOWLEDGE. We do not have to believe anybody or anything, we know this from our own family members.

“If you have counter-arguments to those displayed in the video, I’m all ears”

I’m not wasting my precious time for nazi propaganda, especially because so far, you haven’t been able to produce any credible counter-arguments to all the sources I’ve linked to in my previous posts.

“And how many Poles are taught about their abuse of Germans before and during the intervention?”

There was no such thing. As far as I can tell, you’re refering to the Krwawa Niedziela Bydgoska (Bloody Sunday in Bydgoszcz) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_%281939%29
which has been proved beyond any doubt, to be an audacious nazi propaganda. As usual, it was exactly the opposite of what german propaganda sold as “truth”.

“How many Poles know of how their country was ruled by bloodthirsty Jewish communists who ACTAULLY committed genocide of ethnic Poles? How many Poles know of the hundreds of thousands of Poles shipped off to the gulags by treacherous Jews?”

Actualy quite many, as a matter of fact, any educated person does now this, but again: this is yet another attempt of yours to shift the blame from the german butchers.

“Whatever you want to say about the Germans, you would have been better off under them than the kikes.”

Highly disputable. You stated yourself (and I fully agree) that: “now your country is run by Jews who are plundering your people”.
German occupation cost Poland 3 million murdered, many more displaced and the infrastructure in ruins. In spite of the economic hardships, nowadays nobody exterminates Poles phisically.

Here at DM one Jew can be 3-4 hydra heads. Many times a lot more than 3-4 even. Why the Arab Jew “Fr. John” has about Oh about 14-16 hydra heads….. then there’s lobro’s princess of many names. How many hydra heads does that Jew b*tch have? 8? 10? 14? 23? Then there’s the matter of lobro ‘s hydra heads…….. 6? 10? 12?

The ability for Germany to accurately know the demographics, including Jews, in the 1930s was exceeded only by the US.
IBM counted people in the US. Its subsidiary – DEHOMAG – counted them in Germany. German–American, Hollerith, gets the credit.

There were not 6,000,000 total in all of the countries affected by German invasion.
Poland had the largest number…. 3,113,900…. according to the 1938 census, published in 1941 World Almanac, which I have in my possession.(Bought for $1 in a used book store in mid-60s, for this purpose.)

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Dehomag, obeying the direct orders of IBM and Thomas J. Watson, became the main provider of computing expertise and equipment in Nazi Germany. Dehomag gave the German government the means for two official censuses of the population after 1933 and for searching its data.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehomag
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Joe, not exactly a “666” comment… but close enough: “Six million is the numeric ligature for “Double Israel” as cited above: 6,000,000 has the number “6” mirrored by 6 zeros — this was the occult figure proscribed, the causa sine qua non (initiating cause) without which Israel could not come into being.” Read all about it here: http://justice4chineseessays.weebly.com/we-call-him-mao.html

This will be my last reply to you on this topic, firstly because all you do is post Wikipedia propaganda, secondly you’re a biased Pole and thirdly, quite frankly you’re talking out of your posterior.

I did actually write a lengthy reply to your speculations and thought what’s the point? seeing as you’ll just disagree, going off to Jewpedia to find more lies to reply with.

So therefore, I STRONGLY suggest that instead of Wikipedia and the lies of the victor, you read the actual truth of what happened in WW2 (and 1) something that you will NOT find taught in schools and written in history books – for obvious reason. I therefore, recommend that you go to the following website and peruse the articles, which, will answer all the points you have made and in due process educate you on the lies you’ve been taught to be truths.

Firstly, You would not resign so quickly, had you any credible arguments to substantiate your revelations with.
Wikipedia, once again, or my attitude towards it anyway, is it’s simply a repositorium of credible sources. I could have copy&pasted all the URLs from the footnotes, but that would be very time-consuming and not really necessary. I could easily provide you with tons of references to numerous academic textbooks supporting everyting I said.

Secondly, You still fail to grasp my point. It’s not about history books or my education, because I know the facts first-hand via my living grandparents. So does literally every Polish person. There are still many living people who remember the horror of nazi invasion and subsequent occupation of Poland. Everybody has at least someone in their family, who can attest to what I’ve told you. It was THAT common and widespread, the nazi persecution of Poles that is.

Thridly, of the two of us, it is you who is evidently a biased person. Me, I have no dog in this fight apart maybe from simple thirst for truth and human decency, i.e. I cannot stand watching people defame the history/belittle the suffering of my Nation after all the horrors It’s been through. Especially when it’s the Germans. Unlike the Jews behind “the Holocaust Industry”, POLAND HAS NEVER SEEN A PENNY of reward for the 3 million of its sons and daughters killed by the German invadors and I don’t expect we’ll ever see any. Why would I make things up, then?

You, on the other hand, as a German, do have quite clear and tangible aim of ridding Germany from all the guilt, so that you won’t have to pay for all the tremendous human and material loss of so many European nations.

“Wikipedia, once again, or my attitude towards it anyway, is it’s simply a repositorium of credible sources.”

This is why you spout the BS that you do. The only thing credible about Wikipedia is it’s owned by Jews, run by Jews and promotes Jewish history of the world.

“You still fail to grasp my point.”

No I very much do grasp your point. But what you fail to realise is that your people should have granted Germany access to the Polish corridor. You didn’t and got what you deserved. End of really.

“…it is you who is evidently a biased person.”

Why, because I want to see justice for the German people? Why, because I want to see the truth come out behind the reasons for WW1 & 2? Or biased because I see the poles for what they are, a stupid people who should have seen sense and allowed Germany access to the Polish corridor, a country heavily populated and controlled by Jews?

“You, on the other hand, as a German, do have quite clear and tangible aim of ridding Germany from all the guilt, so that you won’t have to pay for all the tremendous human and material loss of so many European nations.”

I’m Scottish and have no German blood in me. And on your premise of reparation, this is a Jewish thing as well, profiteering from crime. You do know that don’t you? Moreso, what about the Scots, shall we ask for money from the English for over 700 years of oppression by them? And the Picts before them, shall they ask for reparation from the Scots? Or what about all the lands invaded by the Vikings? What about the lands invaded by the Romans?….
You’re an idiot.

Wikipedia, once again, or my attitude towards it anyway, is it’s simply a repositorium of credible sources.

No it isn’t. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, using any source they wish. There are Jewish organizations dedicated solely to spreading disinformation on the web, and they particularly target Wikipedia due to its popularity.

I could easily provide you with tons of references to numerous academic textbooks supporting everyting I said.

Who wrote these “academic textbooks?” Jews who come from a culture that’s centered on deception and hatred of the goyim? You expect these people to tell the truth?

There are still many living people who remember the horror of nazi invasion and subsequent occupation of Poland.

Do they remember the horror of the Bolshevik invasion and occupation, or does that get swept under the rug by the Jews who own your country?

POLAND HAS NEVER SEEN A PENNY of reward for the 3 million of its sons and daughters killed by the German invadors and I don’t expect we’ll ever see any.

Well that’s because jews blame Poles for not doing enough to help Jews, after they had slaughtered and enslaved hundreds of thousands of Poles.

And three million dead Poles? First of all, how many of those deaths were due to the Bolsheviks, and secondly, how many were due to the chaos of war, as opposed to acts of murder by the Germans? And finally, how do you know it was three million?

YES…. Wikipedia can be… and IS… written by anyone who signs up to do so..!!!
Using them is sometimes WORSE than ‘guessing.’

I have known that for years…… Everyone should read wiki’s own words:

“Wikipedia is written collaboratively by largely – ANONYMOUS – volunteers who write without pay. Anyone with Internet access can write and make changes to Wikipedia articles, except in limited cases where editing is restricted to prevent disruption or vandalism. Users can contribute – ANONYMOUSLY – under a pseudonym, or, if they choose to, with their real identity.”

basically, the same onus of proof that is placed on jew shoah is now on your pollack shoah.

you say germans murdered 3 million poles, so you must mean, murdered in lagers, not random victims of bombing, disease, exposure and deprivation, like the victims all across europe but result of deliberate targeting by german authorities.

where are the bodies, where is the dna typing to reunite the dead with their family burial plots.
where are the documents ordering extermination and showing the job done.
show us where the deed was planned from the logistic perspective.
where did red cross report it, since they had full, unannounced access to the camps at any time of day and night.
germans kept careful and complete records of all the deaths in the camps, with all the persoanl data including the ethnicity and religion.
the number of ALL dead is somewhere around 250,000, all documented.
are you saying that for some mysterious reason there are 250 thousand perfectly documented cases (poles, jews, everybody) but 10 times as many completely obscured ones killed and disposed of that the red cross never caught an inkling of?
how and on what basis did germans differentiate who to record and who to do away with silently, where are the policy papers directing camp administration to deal with the decision making?

many poles were killed at the onslaught of the red army led by truly murderous jew bolshevik commissars, do you think they would kindly spare pollacks?

do you have any idea how much the jews hate poles today and consider them worse jew-haters than the germans ever were?

i happen to know a bit, having lived for 20 years in the toronto roncesvalles and queensway area, mostly populated by pollacks and lots of germans as my next door neighbors.
old armin was an unapologetic nazi and he got along with polish families perfectly, they all hated jews equally and got drunk together at backyard bbq’s.
these poles weren’t too political, mostly blue collar families, the older belonging to the legion halls where they got cheap booze.
vodka and catholicism were the two big reference points in their lives.

never once heard them complaining about dread nazis, that’s for sure.

so, what you are relating here about millions of genocided poles by psycho germans and how every polish family mourns those murdered pollacks just doesn’t strike a familiarity chord at all.

quite honestly, if i was a conspiratorial, suspicious type, i would start to suspect that you are a jew running an interference pattern, whereby the jews clearly caught in the shoah lie are trying to drag in and implicate other nationalities in order not only to share the blame but to augment the echo chamber of faux-righteous outrage.

so it will be all slavs, gypsies, homosexuals, handicapped, mental cases, congenitally deformed …
it was that way at the start of the ride, jews used these other groups as training wheels but ditched them once the gravy train caught momentum, no need to share the spoils.

think about it, if 3 million poles figure is accepted, why not 6 million jews, wouldn’t it be antisemitic to yield to one claim but reject the other?

LOL! How is it possible to debate someone who uses false sources, such and jew wikipedia as their source of information? It’s absurd!

From the book by Donald Day, ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS, an American journalist working in the Baltic region for 20 years before the onset of WW2:

If anyone is to be blamed for the tragedy of Poland, it is the Poles themselves. Not one of Poland’s immediate neighbors had a good word to say for this miserable country. The Rumanians detested the Poles, the Czechs hated them, the Germans despised them, the Lithuanians feared them, the Latvians loathed them, the Russians abominated them and the Ukrainians and Ruthenians abhorred them. During their short existence as a modem nation the Poles were unable to make friends, but they did make plenty of enemies.

Poland was too ambitious. She was not satisfied with her frontiers which were fixed by the peace conference in Paris. She wanted additional territory. She took it through organizing putsches. She gathered behind her frontiers millions of Germans, Ukrainians, Ruthenians, Russians and Lithuanians. She tried to assimilate them forcibly and failed. She also failed to provide a higher living standard for her inhabitants. She failed to provide an efficient government apparatus to manage the affairs of the country. The intrigues and treachery which fill so many chapters of Polish history also dominate the latest chapter. In the end she double-crossed herself and once again vanished from the map.

Warsaw seethed with political intrigues. Poland wanted Danzig. […]

Conditions were made so unbearable for the Germans inhabiting the Polish corridor that a great migration developed. Almost 2,000,000 Germans left Poland and either settled in Germany or migrated overseas. This policy of terror, so typically Slav, continued until the German armies marched into Poland

It was also used against the Ukrainians, White Russians and Lithuanians. I knew the leaders of the persecuted groups and interviewed them many times over many years. I traveled extensively in Poland and had the opportunity to make first hand investigations. So when I say terror was used by the Poles I mean just that.

“She also failed to provide a higher living standard for her inhabitants. She failed to provide an efficient government apparatus to manage the affairs of the country.”

And now, because their country is such a shithole, they’re leaving in their droves and coming to the UK and the rest of Europe, fucking it up like their own and stealing all of the jobs, undercutting tradesmen by up to 70% on jobs and forcing many indigenous into unemployment.
They’re Europe’s cockroaches. No one likes them and no one wants them, but like every other immigrant who piles into the UK and the west, the indigenous have no say and yet should they complain out comes the racist/hater/xenophobe/fascist/nazi/white supremacist slur back at them.

“The Empire of the City” by E. Knuth 1946 may be of help to Magnus about the history of most conflicts during the past 200+ years. Quote “The fact that the House of Rothschild made its money in the great crashes of history and the great wars of history, the very periods when others lost their money, is beyond question. Knuth points out that the “City” is a sovereign state not subject to the laws of Great Britain. The City of London is similar to the Vatican in Rome or the District of Columbia in the United States of America in this regard. This is a very important point in understanding that the British Empire is not the English people’s Empire. It is a Empire of the financial elite centered in the City of London and controlled through the deployment of the British Army, Navy, and Spy Agencies. It seeks to control the world’s raw materials and has so far succeeded in using the United States to protect its interests against the German rivals in both WWI and WWII.”

“The conditional conveyance by way of security had been in use by the Jews for a long time prior to their settlement in England, and was used by them in England in their transactions with Christians. The technical device by which the conditional conveyance was effected was, in every detail, identical with the classical English mortgage in its original form, namely, two separate instruments were used and a third party was employed as a depositary. A device similar in conception and design to the conditional conveyance was used by the Jews during the middle ages in England and elsewhere for the purpose of effecting conditional obligations. This device was in every respect identical with the common law conditional bond in the earlier stage of its development. Both of these devices were developed by the Jews for the purpose of evading a certain rule of Hebrew law which is similar to the rule against penalties in English law. The Jews introduced the business of money-lending on a large scale in England, and with it the means by which this business was carried on. When Englishmen learned the business of money-lending from the Jew they adopted his methods and devices, outstanding examples of which are the conditional conveyance by way of security and the conditional bond which have survived to our own day.”

Oh mein Gott! A German Holocaustianity heretic burning the Straussian Occidental myth on national TV. And above all a woman. I wonder how the Inquisition will react.
Frau is right.
“We are too trusting. We’ll believe anything people say today.”
Article 19 21 of the Nuremberg Tribunal’s Charter:
“The Tribunal shall not be bound by technical rules of evidence.”
“The tribunal shall not require proof of facts of common knowledge but shall take judicial notice thereof.”
So facts are irrelevant and no proofs are needed. So we can believe Raul Hillberg the jurist and Elie Wiesel the prophet.
We are back in Jerusalem since we have accepted the mythical unique crime story, born in the 1970’s, of Shoah, which served, first and foremost, as Israel founding myth. The world has been inverted, from the anti-Semitic patriarchal pre WWII to the pro-Semitic matriarchal post-modern world. Now in occident a vast, vast majority of the population and all the historians believe in the Nuremberg full package 6 million or act like they do. The ones who don’t are pretty much living the life of a post WWII Jew. You are right Harbinger, people chose social comfort instead of truth, like starry-eye girl. They know unmindfully or not what they have to loose.
We have traded the positive Jesus and his resurrection for the spiteful despaired Jewish people as a suffering Messiah. In memory of an inexpiable crime, Europeans, as a penance, must feel a radical hatred against everything that made us through history, and, for the future, an inversion of our values. This is what is so great about the Shoah. You can judge retroactively pretty much everything never mind the time or place ot subjects like immigration, gays or discrimination. I heard this Toronto Rabbi explaining for Hanukah that Socrates leads to Hitler and to the gas chambers because Greeks lacked of spirituality and venerated intellect. I wanna go back to Athens.

By the way what Melvin is trying to say is that never mind the details, gas chambers, six millions, lamp shades, BIC pens… Those were just exaggerated at first like any launching campaign. Now even exterminationists are claiming that gas chambers were an “epiphenomenon” like the Functionalist Goldhagen said in “Hitler’s willing executionners”. For him the Holocaust is unrivalled because it is not deliberated. A civilized country with a rational bureaucracy has done it, the country of Mozart and Kant. It is not just a few SS under the command of a lunatic that have murdered Jews but brave men and women who had accepted a deadly, heinous and racist ideology. The instrumentalization of the Jewish suffering is dynamic, adaptive and farsighted, just like modern Judaism. It is a lesson of Antiracism for mankind, Jews not included of course. It is shrewd as long as it last. Germany might try to recover the Rheingold that was stolen by the Seven Headed Beast out of the sea. Maybe the Beast of the Apocalypse in St John revelation is the FED minting plate and the seven heads represent the seven US presidents on the Dollar. The Hitler apocalypse is hiding St John’s. Another rotten fruit of Adolf.

“The only thing credible about Wikipedia is it’s owned by Jews, run by Jews and promotes Jewish history of the world”

If I put here a link to, say, a wiki article on squares or triangles, would you still say its untrustworthy? Can’t you see you’re becoming (or already have become) paranoid?

Anyway, over again: it’s not about wikipedia. If the very same URLs were put on a completely different website, you would still find them not credible. Any source that does not support your fallacy you label as not credible. Hardly an academic attitude.

Besides, as I already told you several times (curiously enough, you somehow managed to not notice this particular argument of mine): just for the sake of argument: f^$&k the history books, ok? It’s about eye witnesses who endured the german persecution themselves!!! I don’t care what the professors say! All I need to know is the testimony of my and my friends’ grandparents. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? You can theoretically produce false history books. You CAN’T falsify memories.

“Moreso, what about the Scots, shall we ask for money from the English for over 700 years of oppression by them?”

That’s up to them.

If the Jews can demand of Germany to make up for its imagined crimes, if the French and Britts could demand reparations for their losses that ultimately were mostly military men, why would not Poland and other nations brutalized by germans demand their well justified compensation for REGULAR EXTERMINATION OF THEIR CIVILIAN POPULATIONS?

If you want to know about persecution, why not read about my people, the Scots, who lived under 700+ years of oppression under the English crown? You’re whining about a couple of years in the 20th century about how badly your people were done by. I’m talking about centuries of oppression.

But Ingrid is right, this is about financial recompense and nothing more. I care little for you poles. I just wish you’d stayed in your Warsaws and Gdansks and never left. Europe would be a better place for it. I don’t know what’s worse, hundreds of thousands of Polish immigrants or African and Asian ones quite frankly.

Cat’s paw toys with Polish mouse
No see wing of German house
Bear play too in batting game
tween giants hold in cornered frame
placed in woe to history’s fate
of slashing claws in geog’s gate
at medial ends it’s pivots play
with helpless throngs in old harm’s way

@ Magnus DP
@ Max
@Harbinger
@Lobro
Dear Darkmooners:
The comment count has reached 100, which means things are getting at the truth, but I see it is also of a visceral nature. I can understand all of you and your perspectives because my ancestry is German, but was born in what today is Slovakia. I now live in Alberta, Canada. Before coming to Canada, my family (parents and my sister and myself) lived in Germany for 2 years from 1968 – 1970. I consider myself a Sudeten German type with Slavic blood. This whole blog with its comments just shows the success of the int’l jewry (Rothschild Zionist Nazi Talmudic Kaballist Pharisaic Jesuit Illuminati Khazarian Mafia) in dividing us even on small things. Magnus as a fellow Slavic brother, I sympathize with you. However, Poland was never really a country until 1919 due to the Versailles treaty. Czechoslavakia was the same. We should all remember that the Versailles treaty was really just an int’l jewry document to fuel division and set the groundwork for WW2. Eventhough Polish territory was built as City-states before 1919, just like most of Europe east of Germany, except Ausria-Hungary and Russia, Polish territory had heavy influences from Russian and German peoples at that time to post WW2 and to a lesser extent today. Another point is that all cultures of Central Europe, Germany east to Russia, had culture and high humanistic values as seen by all the famous musicians, composers and scientists of that time to WW1. The only thing is Germany had the most of all of those, except that a large number of those were also jewish. Germany allowed this because Germans believed in the higher things of life (culture, education, art, music philosophy etc.). AND this is where the full version of “Deutschland ueber alles” comes from. Germany wanted its reputation of these higher values to spread. It had nothing to do with superiority or Super-race. There was only one problem, the jews (int’l jewry) did not want this and debased German society in the 1920’s. Int’l jewry also made up that Aryan race superiority crap to villify Germany. Hitler recognized this and that is part of what Mein Kampf is all about. From the things Germans idealized and their collective industriousness, this was a threat to Great Britain and their Empire. The British Empire after all, was just another extension of the jewish money power (Rothschild) oligarchy and thus Germany was a threat to int’l jewry. Remember too that int’l jewry with the Rothschild’s, planned a jewish state in Palestine under the Balfour Declaration, where unstated the Zionist guaranteed that America enter WW1, even before the Treaty of Versailles was signed. Next you have Hitler with his German economic miracle of 1933 – 1938, that used every financial tool of barter, trade and credits, without using Rothschild debt usury money concepts ,which cause enslavement of nations and peoples. From Hitler’s economic dealings with other countries between 1933 – 1938, all those countries considered Germany a fair, reasonable and rightous country in economic and other dealings except France, Great Britain and its Anglosized Empire members and the USA (which was manipulated in both directions for and against Germany). This German economic Miracle was the reason for WW2. Germany’s success could not spread worldwide to dethrone Rothschild money power, usury and debt enslavement. Thus whatever the real facts are about WW1 and WW2, all sides were manipulated by int’l jewry to achieve their goals and not humanities. From this explanation, it is not surprising that Germany, despite all the propganda against her, is considered the most admired country today. So fellow darkmooners, forget about the petty differences and concentrate on the real enemy: int’l jewry. For me there was a time when Canadians were considered just as fondly, but int’l jewry and the Israel lobby in Canada spoiled all that by aligning exclusively with America and her hegemony. Magnus, consider watching those videos I referenced earlier. Finally, as for Wikipedia, it is a controlled opposition website where the editors only write their facts if they agree with int’l jewry propaganda to dumb down the sheeple. In conclusion, the blog for May 18, 2015 at http://www.HenryMakow.com on Anti-Semitism is related to this post at Darkmoon. Thanks, Norbert.

Just because the holocaust did not occur as we were told (gas chambers, with 6 million killed, etc.) does not mean that Adolf Hitler is a hero. In other words, just because we may have discovered that 6+6 does not equal 13; doesn’t mean 6+6 does not equal 12.

My understanding is that Hitler was a Satanist, if not a member of, led by the Illuminati. Hitler styled himself on the Roman Empire using its emblems (eagle and the swastika); claiming he would have a 1000 year rule as the reign of Christ on Earth; the anti-Christ.http://jahtruth.net/kofkad.htm

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and it had two horns like a lamb, and he (Hitler) spoke as the dragon.
13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by [the means of] those miracles which he had power to do in the presence of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by the sword, and did live (the Roman Empire – eagle and swastika emblems).
13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark (Deutsch) in their right hand, or in their foreheads (Marx-ism):
13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of its name.
13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of man (created 6th. day); and its number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six (man, man, man). http://jahtruth.net/kofkad.htm

Magnus Duck you are acting like a time-wasting, dialectically orchestrated, senselessly argumentative troll! Your brain capacity is a breaking point and your 102 IQ quota is laughed at by such as I, who reside in the 170 plus category. I can see through you like a clear glass pane! …. I see a fat, slobbering JEW!
You are playing the old Jewish dialectical TIT-FOR-TAT game: It goes like this; “Germans have no scruples/no honor, because, you say, ” I don’t think that senseless plunder of Rome in 455 BC by one of the Germanic tribes can be called “noble”. Do you happen to be familiar with the etymology of the word “vandalism? …..the total mass extermination of the ancient Prussians, etc?”
And so you attempt to divert us away from the Jewish, modern-day GENOCIDE of the Middle East and our enslavement into long past wars and strife. TIT-FOR-TAT!
Your analogy is putrid and meaninglessly regressive, meant, ostensibly, to NEGATE all argument about the insidious JEWS who currently RULE the planet under their self-perpetrated avalanche of counterfeit money, violence, money, dog-anus sex, porno, pedophilia and Jesus-hating lies.
You have now been exposed as a vile TROLL; just as I have exposed other trolls, like the diabolical Dr. Green!
A MAXIMUS will always defeat a MAGNUS and you are now chicken shit! I am laughing at you and have stuck pins in an effigy of you! … Go join a JEW website.

Darkmooners:
We all know that Max is the best at exposing bridge trolls. I would reason and debate with them until the point came that their nit-pickiness and countless senseless rebuttals would turn me off. Once that happens to me, I would conclude that the individual is an idiot or a troll. Then considering the nature of this site, I would infer they are a troll, brainwashed by their controllers. Thanks for making this website exciting, but most of us here seek the truth, and int’l jewry be damned. This site , HenryMakow.com, Bro Nat’s RealJewNews.com are the creme-de-la-creme of int’l jewry truth telling to expose the slugs under the rocks. Thanks, Norbert.

“In 2009 the Polish government-affiliated Institute of National Remembrance (IPN) published the study “Polska 1939–1945. Straty osobowe i ofiary represji pod dwiema okupacjami” (Poland 1939-1945. Human Losses and Victims of Repression Under the Two Occupations) that estimated Poland’s war dead at between 5.6 and 5.8 million Poles and Jews, including 150,000 during the Soviet occupation.”

That Polish government-affiliated Institute will not be Jewish front organization, but perhaps you will now claim Poles too always lie.

Have you ever heard of Hitler’s plan to create Lebensraum (“living space”) for Germans in the East up to the Ural mountains at the cost of Slavs, whom he considered as “racially inferior” Untermenschen? Part of those “inferior” Slavs would have to be killed, part expelled, part enslaved, while those with valuable racial characteristics would have to be “Germanized”, for which blond, blue eyed children were kidnapped to be raised in SS families. If you now say that this is all a Jewish lie, that not only all Wikipedia articles but also all books about it are written by Jews, then surely also Hitler’s Mein Kampf must have been written by Jews, since it also mentions the Lebensraum plan.

The idea that “Innocent Hero” Adolf Hitler only wanted back the former German territoria, lost due to the Versailles Treaty, and that that was the reason of his war is simply refuted by his own behavior. After he got back the Sudetenland, he occupied the whole of Czecho-Slovakia and started the plan to “Germanize” it. He did the same with Poland, and that is the explanation of the Nazi cruelty against the Poles. The Polish intelligentsia was targetted for annihilation and the rest of the population would have to be killed, expelled or enslaved. 25.000 Polish children were kidnapped for “Germanization” to be raised in SS families. In Russia your “Innocent Hero” planned to totally destroy the cities of St. Petersburg, Moscow and Stalingrad. The German army would confiscate all the food, while the Russian people would be starved to death (Google : “Hunger Plan”).

A Pole is not a “troll” (Jewish or not) for pointing out the cruelty of the Nazis against his people, and I can imagine he has met many people who could tell stories about what happened to their country.

Sorry for all you Nazi enthousiasts, despite all WW II and Holocaust revisionism, Hitler and his gang were not innocent.

Innocent or guilt of what? Causing deaths? How are you supposed to fight a war without doing that?

As for Hitler’s plans for the East, it’s difficult to distinguish fact from fiction. Hitler’s Table Talk states that Hitler wanted to turn Ukraine, or at least the Black Sea area, into a kind of resort region for Germans, for example. Were those his actual plans? I don’t know, because I don’t know how accurate Hitler’s Table Talk is. As for Mein Kampf, it was written in 1925, 14 years before war broke out, and eight years before Hitler even became chancellor. It’s disingenuous to insinuate that it outlines a detailed plan for the East.

What’s not up for debate was that the USSR needed to be dismantled. It was a giant factory that was being used to produce weapons and minions to eventually attack Europe, the Europe that the Jews hated so much.

So after this diabolical Bolshevik government gets dismantled, what do you do with these millions of people, many of whom are mixed race and have no place in Europe, others who have been brainwashed by bolshevism, and others who are basically European? I think it’s safe to say that Hitler’s overall plan was to take the European Soviets into Europe and integrate them, and drive the Asiatic elements past the Urals.

I won’t bother discussing the brutality or benevolence of how he would have done this, as there’s no point. I’ve never claimed that the Germans didn’t commit atrocities; what I- and authors like Thomas Goodrich- state is that the German atrocities were miniscule compared to what the Allies did.

“Innocent or guilt of what? Causing deaths? How are you supposed to fight a war without doing that?”

If you have some morals – the Nazis didn’t – you don’t target deliberately CIVILIANS by directly murdering them, resettling them without proper provisions or by stealing their food. In Poland the Nazis deliberately murdered the intelligentsia (especially Catholic priests) to prevent a future leadership. Those who were allowed to stay alive would be the slaves of the Germans with a minimum of education :

“Polish children were forbidden from acquiring education beyond the elementary level with the aim that the new generation of Polish leaders could not arise in the future.[106] According to a May 1940 memo from Heinrich Himmler: “The sole goal of this schooling is to teach them simple arithmetic, nothing above the number 500; writing one’s name; and the doctrine that it is divine law to obey the Germans. I do not think that reading is desirable.””

Source : Nazi Crimes against the Polish Nation, Cultural Genocide.

Had the Nazis won the war, they would have done also to the Russians what they did to the Poles. “Fighting Bolshevism” was never the real aim of the war, establishing a German “Utopia” on the corpses of millions of Slavs was the true aim.

You guys wail so much about the “Hellstorm” the Allied perpetrated on the Germans, but try to play down what the Nazis did and wanted to do themselves in the East. Also the expulsion of 15 million Germans is small fry compared to what the Nazis planned to do themselves with the Slavic “Untermenschen”.

All in all we are lucky that the Führer shot himself in his bunker in 1945, he should however done that 6 years before!

As to all those nazi trolls, linking to websites written evidently by german chauvinists (which pages by the way are of utter anti-academic nature, for statements such as “everybody hated polacks” are NOT falsifiable, and that’s the single most important criterion of SCIENCE) — their motives and behaviour cannot be fully understood without previously looking at this map:

Maybe America once was a wASp society. Now it’s definitely a WGP populace.

Funnily enough, even though they’re already the US majority, they still cannot seem to be able to overthrow those damn Jews. All they can do is whine. I guess it’s due to their superior 170+ IQ Max was talking about.

One of the smartest and mechanically capable man I ever knew was the son of Polish immigrants.

Henry graduated from Jefferson Medical College in Philly. He had degrees in chemistry and physics and French, and paid for his medical college by teaching French and Chemistry in the college.
He was a concert pianist and violinist. He did all of his own home and car repairs. Kept his 1956 Mercedes for 30 years…. ran like new…. until death from stroke.
He built his own TV set from scratch. Built ham radios.

He never charged retired or out of work patients. Everyone else… $15 for office visits. $5 for a shot(jab).
The local MD’s hated him for that. So, the AMA jerked his license for being so cheap in 1975. (My dad forced the AMA to re-instate him. Got his license back. He told them he would cut off their funding from the state legislature. They had $millions pending approval. He was Chairman of the Appropriations Committee.)

If you have some morals – the Nazis didn’t – you don’t target deliberately CIVILIANS by directly murdering them, resettling them without proper provisions or by stealing their food.

Your claim that the “Nazis” (kike term) deliberately targeted civilians is unsubstantiated, at least in the sense that they mass-murdered huge numbers of innocent people. Individual shootings by soldiers amid the chaos of war? Yes. Genocide? I see no reason to believe what Jews and Bolsheviks claim.

Oh and the Germans did have morals. That’s why they lost the war. The Allies had no morals, and they won. Morality is irrelevant in a biological war between free men and kike minions.

In Poland the Nazis deliberately murdered the intelligentsia (especially Catholic priests) to prevent a future leadership.

Proof?

Those who were allowed to stay alive would be the slaves of the Germans with a minimum of education :

The average Pole or Slav can’t do much with an extensive education anyway. Mass education is inherently wrong. Most people should learn trades. Those who can actually think and create should be educated.

Source : Nazi Crimes against the Polish Nation, Cultural Genocide.

Wiki-kike again?

“Fighting Bolshevism” was never the real aim of the war, establishing a German “Utopia” on the corpses of millions of Slavs was the true aim.

If the Germans had succeeded, what were they going to do? Install new Tsar to rule over a foreign superpower? A half-Asiatic superpower that was frequently at odds with the West? Who would they choose? The royal family had been butchered. Should they have installed a puppet government? How would that have worked out? Integrating the Aryan Slavs and driving the Asiatics past the Urals made the most sense.

All in all we are lucky that the Führer shot himself in his bunker in 1945

Yeah, having demonic kikes run the world and drive my race to extinction is so great.

Thank you for your contribution, unfortunately, as you both can see, you cannot reason with this specimen. He is FUBAR, a lost cause. Untreatable medical case.

Whatever reason you put forth, whatever source you provide, ultimately – for the lack of any reasonable argument & as a sign of his intellectual impotence– he will resort to cheap eristic, namely argumentum ad absurdum ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum ), claiming that the source was “written by an insidious kike”.

Following that “logic” you can put in question or “refute” virtually anything! – ad infinitum.

Concerning the sources, as I said: it’s pointless to argue with this troll. This stereotypical Kraut will deny anything contrary to his nazi axioms and dogmas, even if it were the words of Hitler himself, incognito, or for that matter a prominent German philosopher.

It just so happens that the techniques of eristic – to which I linked in my previous post – were formulated by one such scholar – Arthur Schopenhauer.

But, according to the SS-QR who claimed: “Stop linking to sites that are written primarily by kikes”
I guess Schopenhauer too was a kike.

I agree with most of what you say SPQR, but you keep saying that the Germans having morals and the Allies not is why Germany lost the war. The issue of morality or lack thereof was not the deciding factor.

In my view the reasons were practical in nature, and were due primarily to the sabotage orchestrated by the Zionist agent Bormann which infiltrated Abwehr Intelligence. I suspect that a major operation associated with this involved the Allied Benchley Park group in London who were assigned the task of breaking the German military Enigma codes. Agents who knew the codes were planted there and engineered their “breaking”.

The Intelligence agencies on both sides were controlled, and this more than anything else lost Germany the war.

Awesomely excellent interview! The bravery of this woman! By the grace of God she is willing to spread the truth. There are so many incredibly brave revisionists out there. Far from being “Nazi’s” (whatever that means these days!) they are intellectuals, PhD’s, authors, professors, etc who aren’t afraid of telling the truth. The reptilian Zionist-Jewish-scumbags will stop at NOTHING to squash them. The Barnes Review Journal & The Institute for Historical Review are on the front lines fighting the good fight. Bradley Smith is also very proactive on university campuses attempting to let the cat out of the bag. TBR publishes the “Holocaust Handbook Series” in book format, as well as giving away for free .pdf versions of all their books. Get into it. Check out my blog for some Holocaust­ Revisionist posts & links, as well as Roman Catholic (me), Eastern Orthodox Christianity themes, ans hardcore punk rock music. A mixed bag of stuff I’m into. Life is good. Don’t let the bastards grind you down. Peace & love. ♥

Once again Norbert is my man; and I agree whole-heartedly with his summation: “This site , HenryMakow.com, Bro Nat’s RealJewNews.com are the creme-de-la-creme of int’l jewry truth telling to expose the slugs under the rocks.” …. And all you idiots criticizing Henry Makow, you should read all Makow’s articles and you will find the greatest TRUTHS ever said about the insidious nature of our Jewish masters. But a lot of you are the educated illiterate! Remember Makow was a Jew, but is now a dinky-die Christian – a true angry, fighting Christian! He hates them-there JEWISH monsters! Like my hero, Mr Putin. Lobro likes Putin as well, which is great!
I don’t know what silly Mr Ryckaert is about in criticizing me as I have never used the Jews’ Wikipedia or spoken about the Polish people. He is a confused man and yet another with low-level reading and comprehension skills. I just pointed out that Cro Magnus was childishly utilizing Pharisaic dialecticism and creating a false analogy; which the idiot was doing to make us regress into inane argumentation! A Protocols’ trick, for the dumb-arses and gullible amongst us! …. SPQR adequately covers my point about damning the Germans: “German atrocities were miniscule compared to what the Allies did..” … You see, ’tis all a matter of relative comparisons my son: And remember, you lesser intelligent DARKMOONERS amongst us (av IQ 102 points. I have psycho-analysed you all and rated you!): The JEWS have proved to be the greatest harbingers of DEATH in history. It has been estimated that the Jewish-orchestrated wars of the 20th century, murdered over half a billion people alone – what with the Jews’ cancers of Marxism, Bolshevism, Stalinism, Leninism, Zionism, Fabianism, Socialism, state Fascism, Maoism, etc. …. So put that in ya pipes and smoke it, you nasty-pasties with no brains; and get off my mate Hitler’s back! … And leave Master Putin alone as well, as he is the greatest ruler for 100’s of years and is all that really stands between you and the rampant Jews! Grow up!!!! Get a new galfriend!

(meanwhile, new song’s, immediately below i could not understand a single word of, eg,My understanding is that Hitler was a Satanist, if not a member of, led by the Illuminati. Hitler styled himself on the Roman Empire using its emblems (eagle and the swastika); claiming he would have a 1000 year rule as the reign of Christ on Earth; the anti-Christ.http://jahtruth.net/kofkad.htm

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and it had two horns like a lamb, and he (Hitler) spoke as the dragon.
sorry, but to me, your song is just blether, hitler was a good orator which lines him up in the revelations!?)

choice quote

Germans believed in the higher things of life (culture, education, art, music philosophy etc.). AND this is where the full version of “Deutschland ueber alles” comes from

this is precisely what germans represent to people worldwide.
germans were historically stateless, just a tribe with admirable qualities of hard work, neighborliness, honesty, charity, morals, civic duty, love of culture and education and they would raft down the danube in search of empty arable land and as such settled along the alluvial valleys in hungary, panonia (banat & voivodina, an ethnically mixed area presently under serb occupation), rumania, and so on.
they were often referred to as “donau swaben” for this reason.
nowhere did they ever cause ethnic strife but blended into local society while maintaining their cultural characteristics (i think that the majority of the ones i referred to were staunch catholics).

2 years ago i visited a friend in northern romania (transylvania) and his girlfriend drove us to the city of hermannstadt, an ethnically german city nearby.
i thought i was right in the middle of saxony, a peaceful, prosperous town, beautiful architecture, spotlessly clean cobblestones, flower planters on every windowsill, happy people and maybe the best weissbeer (wheat? i am not a beer expert) i ever tasted.
this is deutschland uber alles that norbert talks about, what makes germans the finest and the most respected nation in the world and jews the diseased refuse, because everywhere they went, they polluted every single thing they laid their unclean claws on.
the mayor of hermannstadt is a young guy of german extraction and so admired and beloved by all of the country that they are clamoring to elect him as the country’s president, given the endemic graft and statewide thievery by those in power.

so all the tales of teutonic barbarity and contempt for others is just yid projection.

You obviously did understand what I wrote and proceeded to deny it. If you and others are not able to differentiate between jews and counterfeit-jews (and Makow is guilty of the same error) then I can not expect you to see who and what Hitler et al were all after.

I ask you / others to ponder what the authors of the Protocols meant by “lesser brethren”.

Excerpt below –

It is a call to the attention of those who may have been born into the current age of suppression and propaganda, and have yet to recoup some of this information which until very recently was openly discussed on a global scale. However, since the triumphs of Zionism and the further implementation of mass mind / information control since the Second World War, with regards to anything remotely Jewish, such information has been buried through censorship and revision of history-books by the very power which imposed the conspiracy in the first place. The Protocols make it quite clear that ‘anti-semitism’, meaning ‘anti-Judaic’, is an ‘indispensable’ part of the plan for world domination. It will be used for ‘the management of our lesser brethren’. This document makes chilling reading for both Jews and Gentiles alike when one looks back to the treatment of Jewry during the Second World War; that a self-appointed elite should be willing to sacrifice and allow the persecution of their ‘lesser brethren’, for the greater aim of world domination, should be a wake-up-call to all of Jewry, the vast majority of whom constitute what the authors of the Protocols deem to be ‘lesser brethren’.

‘Anti-Semitic’ is a phrase which means ‘against Semites’ but has come to be used solely as meaning ‘anti-Jewish’. The irony inherent in this ill-used phrase is that the Semitic Arabs are actually amongst the greatest victims in the crime and fraud known as Zionism, in which Russian Jews, who are racially non-Semitic, in the first half of the Twentieth Century, fostered and executed a plan (as prophesied by God through Ezekiel 11:15) to create an officially recognised Jewish homeland in Palestine. The result of which was the mass displacement and persecution of the indigenous Arab citizens. This is without doubt ‘anti-semitism’ at its worst. And yet to state this plain fact openly today is to invite the accusation of being ‘anti-Semitic’! I will also show in this work that the ordinary Jewish people, unbeknownst to themselves, have been victims to the same ancient agenda and are considered by the Elders to be necessary sacrifices to their cause. As the British; American and other Anglo-Saxon and Celtic peoples are also descended from Shem/Sem, they are also Semitic peoples. Therefore anyone who is anti-British or anti-American is anti-Semitic, in the true definition of the term. But, of course, as explained in the Protocols, it is the [counterfeit]-Jews who publish the dictionaries and so they define the words according to their plan. http://JAHTruth.net/illumin.htm

For those who have not arrived yet at the correct answer, I will tell you what that is. The authors of The Protocols are liars, so much so, that they believe lies more so than Truth, as that is their very nature. Whilst their plan is laid out in The Protocols, when they said their “lesser-brethren”, they said so arrogantly. They were speaking about the racial jews of which they are only connected to by a lie. The “lesser brethren” are not their brethren at all. To agree with them is to continue the lie (their lie), never recognizing the solution. The authors of The Protocols are counterfeit-jews: primarily Ashkenazi; some Idumeans.

You’ve heard that getting to the core of Truth is like peeling an onion. The core is on Its way to being exposed, the more on board the better. Norbert does not understand or Max. In listening to Makow, they will never get it because of his site’s skillfully mixed content.

Hello ESP,
Let me intervene on the Polish German you tube like discussion. A very sensitive subject because of the complexity of the Polish case in WWII due to his uncomfortable geographical situation and the fact that both England and France have left Poland to its fate, just like they have done with Czechoslovakia.

I remember this article of Tribune de Genève about the IPN/ The institute of National Remembrance in Poland which established a list of 9500 former staff member of Auschwitz “death camp” in January. So far, the Nazi staff was estimated between 4000 and 6500 persons. The list has been established at the demand of IPN, in order to prosecute the Nazi crimes.
What about the communists war crimes? The Jews in Poland rallied as soon as 09/1939 to the soviet invader in Eastern Poland stolen by URSS, backstabbing the Polish army which was bravely fighting the Wehrmacht, long before any Nazi atrocity was committed. A million of Polish would be deported to URSS between 09/1939 and mid-1941. The Nazis “unique” crime is “the tree that hides the forest” so that we can’t see the more recent unpunished communist crimes although the perpetrators are still very much alive.

On the western front, they were crushed by the Nazi. I won’t come back on that since Franklyn said it all. Poland was Eretz Germany. The more I look into this pagano-nordico-darwinist-racialist esoterism, the more I think that Nazism was a form of Germanic Judaism, focused on industry, made for non-Jews, even if 200 000 Jews were fighting in the Wehrmacht, if I recall. They took example from the Jews who have a collective conscience of themselves and fight for it.

Poland is the fall-guy of WWII, where many atrocities have been committed from both sides, creating a high level of resentment and complexity that is now used for the Global agenda in Ukraine. Poland is now helping USrael/NATO by forming the Euromaidan Nazis, the ideological successors of the Volhynia genocide’s perpetrators in 1942, and by hosting US basis/missiles, in the destabilization of Nationalist Russia through Ukraine. I think they are choosing the wrong ally again, just like UE. The Seven Headed Beast is an ungrateful friend.
Since Frau mention Pr Faurisson.
“The victor may, at the most, administer lessons in butchery to the vanquished but he cannot give him lessons in rights, justice or virtue.
Who was at Yalta, giving lessons to the World?
The same people who wrote the Versailles treaty and who shared the corpses of the late Austrian and Ottoman empire. Norbert is right. Ferdinand Foch said in 1919 after the Versailles treaty “This is not a peace. It is an armistice for 20 years”. “Too hard for Germany to accept and too soft to keep it from getting revenge” said J Bainville. Foch wanted France to hold the left bank of the Rhine for defensive reasons. “Woodrow Wilson” refused. He also said that 20 years was roughly the length of time it would take a new born generation of Germans to grow to adulthood, ready for revenge.
The German, Polish people, French, Russian and all the others are just cannon fodder for the apex of the triangle which plays with their myths and resentments by manipulating and simplifying history with the concept of Good and Evil. The funny thing is, now, the dialectic is inverted but since the Jews went west, this is not surprising.

Harbinger
You should check Pilecki, Fieldorf, Szendzielarz. Those men were not “coackroaches” like the fleeing British army at Dunkirk. They fought against Nazism and were executed, tortured by the Communist “Polish Committee of National Liberation” after the War. You could also read Gustaw Herling « a world apart », the Polish version of the Gulag archipelago. I have a soft spot for Poland, but imagine Scotland surrounded by two England. They just paid the Catholic tolerance displayed by the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth where every religious and ethnic community found refuge during the wars of religion in Europe.

I wish you all well. Be nice with Polish people, they have a lot to deal with and their leaders don’t help, especially since this plane crash and this Donald Tusk dude. I just hope they would realize that they are being played by STRATFOR and that Putin is no Staline.

National Socialism was a cultural, political, and racial palingenesis. It most certainly was not “Judaism for Germans,” as National Socialism was not based on parasitism, religious claims of moral superiority, deception of non-Germans, and a lust for wealth. National Socialism was the re-establishment of classical European values.

Don’t get me wrong. I was talking about cultural ethnic religious cohesion of the cognitive Jewish elites, ready to use any means to achieve their goals, like Herzl who encouraged anti-Semitism. Fighting for your people and for your culture. Gobineau used to respect that about them, so is Kevin MacDonald. “A people sure of himself and overbearing” like De Gaulle said.
This characteristic is found in Nazism like in Judaism. But maybe I misread Hitler, Rosenberg, Drumont or Gobineau.
I talked about Athens and Jerusalem.
For the Jews, the world is an ocean of goys around an island of Hebrews chosen by Gods
For the Greeks, the world is an ocean of barbarians, at the heart of which there is an island of civilized people, the Hellenes.
But for the Greeks, there is no divine barrier, every barbarian could be civilized, he just needs instruction and reason. More, the Greek’s spirit is an anticipation of “love and respect your enemy”, as it is omnipresent in The Iliad.
Was Hitler and Nazism more inspired by Athens or Jerusalem?
I think it depends on your national perspective of WWII.
For me, Nazism was the German heavy industrial version of fascism and became a Totalitarian war regime, after the Night of the long Knives, to oppose Staline and URSS. Both were funded by high finance. The WWII is first and foremost a dialectic between finance and industry and who should prevail. Finance clearly won at Yalta after Germany felt into the trap of Russian scorched earth policy just like Napoléon, while England and USA were securing their global oil like interests. History stutters.
Metaxa, and his own version of fascism for Greek Shipowners, gave his first defeat to the Third Reich. He didn’t like industry but maritime trade.
Thesis+Antithesis=Synthesis with the European Union where high finance rules, for now.

Magnus,

Details are important but those links you provided are not atrocities, like Volhynia and others. The same events pretty much happened in France. This is modern total war where everybody is involved, even for testing the weapons and for retaliations when officers are murdered. All things considered, the German army behaved pretty decently in France during WWII. But France is on the west side of Germany.
My point was that the complexity of those events are hidden by the unique crime of Shoah “never again”. Poland and Occident are still tracking the surviving personnel of Auschwitz. Never forgive, never forget. That’s a vendetta against Europe, altough she was the first victim of WWII.

For many, my equating what I refer to as a “true national socialism” with the Iroquois Confederation is a stretch, but this would be a mistake based on the obfuscation caused by all the programmed dialectics people have been bombarded with. In essence they are virtually the same.

You have an understanding about things that for a man in his 20’s is impressive. But because you are young it implies an underdevelopment. And don’t get me wrong. You’re way ahead of the curve than most.

But regarding the issue of morality, if I sensed the Germans under Hitler to be a generally immoral people I wouldn’t virtually back them to the hilt like I do. This would reduce them to being no better than the enemy. Evil fighting evil. Count me out.

Deep down I suspect we are really no different in this regard. But your usages of the word “moral” and its variations are misplaced. What you are really conveying reflects chagrin over the fact that Germany lost the war. So you conclude in your angst that they weren’t hard enough, implying the exhibiting of immoral behavior. When the truth is that it is very likely that Germany’s loss was due to one of the o;dest tricks in the book – good old-fashioned espionage, and in this case done supremely well (gotta give the devil his due on this one)

Be careful not to fall into the no man’s land of a ‘spiritual eunuch’ called Amorality

Ok I might have misunderstood due to the misuse of comma before “like” (which implied to me that you meant the link to the wiki art on Volhynia massacre), anyway:

Intentional bombing raids on towns that were well known to nazis to have had no military objects whatsoever, most definitely IS an atrocity, quite similar to the bombing of Dresden, although, given the scale of that city, I’m not sure Dresden was completly devoid of AA-guns or other military objects.

Ok, you professional Russia haters and peddlers of various canards that deflect from focus on Jews.
I took a look at that site linked to by Pat, listened to the video clip of Rabbi Ben Lazar and present the transcript of his speech as well as deconstruct it for your edification.
01:25 to 02:40, Ben Lazar

The president of Russia, Vladimir Putin told me the following story.
When he was a young child, he grew up in a very poor family. His parents were always at work.
To his luck, his next door neighbors were a “…exidishe” (some Jew word) Jewish family and they always made sure to invite him over.
They were extremely kind to him. And he realized that not only were they kind to a child who wasn’t theirs, not only were they kind to a child who wasn’t Jewish but they were kind to a child in the time and place when it was danger to do that.
Thirty years later, because of the gratitude he felt towards this family and respect towards the Jewish people as the whole, as deputy mayor of the city of Leningrad, he granted the official permit to open the first Jewish school in the city.

This is the “proof” that Pat will never tire of presenting in order to paint Putin as “raised by a Rabbi”.
Let’s take it line by line.
First of all, nowhere does Lazar say that Putin knew any rabbi in his childhood.
This is the first lie and it seems quite intentional, no possibility of having misheard Lazar whose English is perfect (will return to that in a moment).

So, as far as I am concerned, Makow is a liar (why, ask yourself, what could be his motivation) and anyone blindly parroting it becomes a dealer in lies himself. Or you owe it to yourself to at least hear the “damning” video.

Secondly, because li’l Vlad, at the age of 5 or something was invited over for some matzos, it automatically makes him a kabbalah adept, a shabbo goy?

When I was in grade school and didn’t know a Jew from pterodactyl, my Jew schoolmate would invite me to his house, run by a fat little coterie of his mother and a bunch of aunts and they would feed me their greaseball foods that nearly had me gagging but at least they seemed kind enough, although I wasn’t clamoring for more.
So does that make me a Jew lover and servant of Talmud?

I think that Jews may have some secret kohen rule to try and ideologically convert bright kids when given a chance, because you never know whether it may prove useful later on and this is what they did to Putin as a kid.
I already mentioned how in my kid’s class, some Jewess would always show up at Purim before Easter to hand out these dreidle spin tops, Jews have their marching orders to pervert kids at every opportunity.

Consider the following points, I want you to remember this so there is no further bullshit on this theme later on.

Lazar admits that Putin grew up dirt poor whose parents were hard working ordinary people.
How Jewish is that?
Well, his neighbors who were Jews did not work and were better off … hm, how unusual, right?

And I will bet any money that 5 minutes from now someone will parade the troll meme that Putin’s mother was a Jewess (Shlemova or something) as if any of the above was never said. Safely ignore it and just as safely assume that it is the professional troll at work.

So Putin approved some Jew school in Leningrad when he was the deputy mayor, big deal and he told that to Lazar at some official meeting – WOW!
And this is your proof?
Just political sweet-talk about nothing at all, as if he could have personally prevented a religious school from opening in the days of Gorbachev.
Now look into this a little deeper.

First, “(Jews) were kind to a child in the time and place when it was danger to do that”, what is he saying there?
He is saying, to his ratty brethren that they didn’t run the show in Putin’s youth, they lost control when Uncle Joe Stalin took the steering wheel and hacked Trotsky to pieces with an ice pick in Mexico.

And what about Lazar himself, what is a native English speaker doing as the chief rabbi of Russia?
Let me tell you what, if it isn’t obvious.

He was parachuted there by the Sanhedrin Council of Learned Elders of Zion in order to keep close and friendly to Putin in hope to pull an Ilya Ehrenburg scam over there.
What are the chances that he would publicly say something against Putin but appear as servile and cloyingly friendly as only a Jew aiming a knife into your back can be?

Don’t let trolls do your thinking for you, try it yourself, you might even get to like it eventually.

As you can see, I didn’t link to my sources to claim that Putin is not a Jew, wasn’t raised by rabbis and is not a Rothschild agent.
I used his detractors’ link to prove my point.

Lobro –
I found this researching Glencore.
More tears….
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The diagram connecting Putin, Rothschild, and Rockefeller
View the diagram which proves that the West and Putin are both under the control of the Rockefellers and Rothschilds.

“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure–one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.” – David Rockefeller (Memoirs, pg. 405)

this t-shirt site is run by total clowns or worse, the diagram as amateurishly conceived as i could have done in grade 5.

look at it again.
one circle says “Moscow”, arrow to another circle that says “Putin”, yeah, that’s a proof, because other arrows lead from “Rothschild” circles to “Moscow” circle.

and “Putin” leads to “Chubais”.
well, chubais is a well known and very public enemy of putin, predates putin on the federal scene because he was installed there by jews as the handler of yeltsin, always in davos and bilderberg meetings and working with nuland and us embassy trying to foment another demonstration, another color revolution.

the fact that there are circles named “Deripaska” and “Abramovich” means nothing, it is just 2 from dozens of jew oligarchs that infested russia courtesy of yeltsin that putin kicked out.

yes, abramovich is the chabad lubavitch man, so is lev leviev and the fact that putin suffers them is like a cancer patient putting up with tumor.

at one point either they (tumors-oligarchs) will have to go or he (putin-patient) will.
that’s the nature of the beast, not the proof that the patient planted tumors on purpose and is happy with them.

such poor reasoning, pat.
i did praise norbert but that doesn’t mean i praise makow, although i consider makow a limited hangout – you know what that means, dontcha?

and the text you quote has absolutely no relevance to the putin discussion – none.
give us something more solid or give it rest, pat.

I continue to take your bait because you stated over the months that you are NOT 100% sold on Putin… but want someone to give you a reason to NOT support him.
So, you call me a liar to motivate me. I get it.

Just so you’ll know… I’ll carry the water pail…. and bail also. I always have. My nature.

Lobro –
Just so you know… as I have said numerous times…. I do not hate Putin. I hate the Pharisee in the UN and US government who have put Russia on a pedestal…. Under any leader of Russia since 1917.
Here is an example of why:
===============http://www.barefootsworld.net/untruth.html

Each and every one of us that served in Korea or Vietnam served under the total command of a Soviet General! Here are the names of the soviets and the dates they served as “Under-Secretary of the Security Council of the United Nations,” thus the highest military commander of all United Nations fighting forces anywhere in the world, INCLUDING ALL MILITARY FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES. These names and information was obtained from the United Nations yearbooks up through 1983. Later yearbooks were not available. (All listed below are Soviet Generals holding the office of “Under-Secretary for Security and Political Affairs”):

and i likewise did not call you a liar.
a liar is someone who spreads misinformation knowingly and i have no reason to suspect this.
you simply relayed something onwards without examining the contents, like an honest postman 🙂
(joe cured me of using smileys but i couldn’t resist this time)

the phrase was used by makow and if he simply picked it up unquestioningly, then i am sorry to have called him a liar, which i did.
putin is not someone that appeals to me on a visceral level as maybe a drinking buddy (well, neither of us is a drinker, he a teetotaler and i only an occasional one).
in fact, george w bush, venal and weakminded turd that he is, is probably a better company although i wouldn’t trust him to fetch a stick that i threw.
hitler probably wasn’t great entertainment either, too serious and inclined to preach.

i think that in terms of personal company that i would find the most fascinating, i would take stalin as my pick, highly intelligent, down to earth, good sense of humor … and maybe quite the murderer that he is said to have been, i must say i don’t have the bead on him yet, too much smoke swirling around.

… for that matter, mephistopheles would probably make excellent company, so long as you abstain from card games … even dostoevsky admits as much when ivan karamazov gets an occasional nighttime visit from the old rogue.

“i did praise norbert but that doesn’t mean i praise makow, although i consider makow a limited hangout – you know what that means, dontcha?”

Yes, I think you are right about Henry Makow being a limited hangout. However, I am a subscriber to his site and have used him as a source for many quotations in my essays, but I carefully cherry-pick what I like of course.

The litmus test is the Holocaust and Makow believes it happened; saying that his (Polish?) grandparents on his mother’s side were killed. How exactly they were killed was never clarified, but the reader would automatically think they were gassed to death by the “evil Nazis.” Poof ! as opposed to proof. Prove it.

On the topic of Canadian truth tellers, no one has mentioned Arthur Topham and radicalpress.com in this Holocaust (Holohoax) thread. He deserves our support (either financial or spiritual) as he is in mortal danger of being thrown in jail for 2 years if found guilty this October. I also heard that Makow was hounded by the joos on similar “hate crime” charges but his case never went to trial as far as I know. It simply vanished. POOF!

PS
I am also a subscriber to Darkmoon (since last summer) but rarely ever got any notices and that was why I only visited here intermittently; but I get 2 to 3 updates from Makow’s site every week. Shalom.

pat, of course you must cherry pick anything you hear, how else do you arrive at truth?

i cherry pick your statements and expect the same from you in return.

and yes jfc, arthur topham is a real deal and canada should be proud to claim him and there are others.
i am still crestfallen over the passing of doug christie, his lawyer, again an icon of truth and bravery, not too many like him.
denis rancourt, ian macdonald, chief akenahew and others, these are the real canadians that need our full support.

and in the states, i greatly admire bradley smith of the CODOH, never a wrong step, methodical, genteel and fearless.
of course there are many more, some unknown, some known like bishop williamson in england comes to mind but it is not my intention to provide an exhaustive list – just a few that i trust implicitly, ie, minimum cherrypicking required.

“The litmus test is the Holocaust and Makow believes it happened; saying that his (Polish?) grandparents on his mother’s side were killed”.

Makow has stated explicitly, multiple times, he is Jewish. That’s probably why he is a rather soft-core “antisemite” and would often shift the blame on Illuminati/Freemasons/who knows what, just like local nazi trolls constantly try to deny/diminish atrocities of nazi Germany. Other than that, he’s a good read and has produced many valuable analyses.

I wouldn’t have any problems with Poles if they stayed in their own country instead of polluting Europe with their presence, most notably the UK.

Since Tony Blair’s 1997 government opened the immigration floodgates, they’ve piled into the UK in their hundreds of thousands. Now I don’t have to tell you that in a country there are X amount of jobs. If people from other countries come to those lands then you instantly create an employment problem. If they take the jobs, the indigenous don’t have one. If the indigenous take the jobs then they don’t have one and end up on unemployment and housing benefit, receiving moneys, unlike the indigenous and their families have paid tax to receive. There is the saying, “they do the jobs the indigenous won’t” which is an utter pile of rubbish.
Take for example the cost of a one bedroom flat in Warsaw at the time of their migration. It cost about £29,000 compared to ten times that much in the UK. So in effect a Pole could work here for two years on a £20k salary and buy a flat back home, but someone from Britain couldn’t go to Poland and do the same.
Add also the fact that more people in a country equal competition for jobs, which means a static/lower wage.

I call them cockroaches because they are in that they arrive in areas in large numbers. They’re also troublemakers as well. However that said, I will say that many are hard workers and skilled but it’s not the point. I don’t care about the economic needs of Poles. That’s the problem of the Polish and their respective governments IN POLAND. I care for MY people in MY land, but to think this way you are called a racist, even when you have no hatred for others or supremacist beliefs for your race.

The bottom line Phil, is if I want to know Polish people or immerse myself in their culture, I’d go to Poland, just as I would if I wished to know people of other lands and their culture.

You think UK is the only country with such problems? Poland is increasingly becoming flooded with Ukrainians, the sons and grandsons of real sadists that butchered up to 200,000 Polish civilians with saws, hammers and axes in the en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Volhynia_massacre
You think we are happy with it? There’s nothing we can do, just like you Brits. Our government does not represent Polish interests, just as your Camerons and Millibands are ZOG of the you know who.

Up until the early 80’s we had a flourishing economy, we were a fully industrialized country with much potential. Now, after the West installed its neo-liberal propaganda agents, whose “work” eventually led to the SO CALLED “collapse of Soviet Bloc” (which is an utter misnomer, it was planned from the beginning, CIA confirmed it), our Contry is in ruins. “Our” leaders (or your agents) sold our national state-owned highly productive enterprises (e.g. Polish shipbuilding industry is iconic in this respect; it was a genuine threat to the german economy and so it had to be destroyed) to foreign investors for pennies!; once an agricultural power in the world, we now have to import pork and potatoes!!!

Do you think we enjoy the situation in which we have to migrate to countries known to be hostile, in order to SURVIVE?

Just to make things clear = I’m not a migrant.

This im my !!! personal opinion !!! in no way does it have a pretense of being widely accepted within the Polish community: BUT I believe you Brits well deserved that, which belief I have already expressed in one of my previous comments:

“UK which, through ages of the merciless plunder of the 3rd world known as Brithis Imperialisme managed to amass enormous amounts of wealth at the expense of the rest of the World.”

Moving on:
“If people from other countries come to those lands then you instantly create an employment problem. If they take the jobs, the indigenous don’t have one”.

It’s a pile of rubbish, they can only take vacant jobs, and so always end up with the lowes paid ones, such that Brits won’t even consider. They can only be hired in humiliating proffessions well below their qualifications, that’s why you have so many Polish dishwashers with MAs and PhDs. People like surgeons, on the other hand, from what I’ve heard, are highly regarded, and since vacant surgeon positions are rather limited, it is safe to assume they only hire the best applicants (and rightly so). You would rather undegro a surgery performed by a dirty yet skillful polack than a pure-blooded albeit lousy Brit.

I was talking about the war not about social dumping, “posted workers” and how Poland, like many others, is exporting its workers for the great pleasure of corporations. You are absolutely right. I didn’t know you have Polish people in Great Britain.

You think UK is the only country with such problems? Poland is increasingly becoming flooded with Ukrainians, the sons and grandsons of real sadists that butchered up to 200,000 Polish civilians with saws, hammers and axes in the en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Volhynia_massacre
You think we are happy with it? There’s nothing we can do, just like you Brits. Our government does not represent Polish interests, just as your Camerons and Millibands are ZOG of the you know who.

Up until the early 80’s we had a flourishing economy, we were a fully industrialized country with much potential. Now, after the West installed its neo-liberal propaganda agents, whose “work” eventually led to the SO CALLED “collapse of Soviet Bloc” (which is an utter misnomer, it was planned from the beginning, CIA confirmed it), our Contry is in ruins. “Our” leaders (or your agents) sold our national state-owned highly productive enterprises (e.g. Polish shipbuilding industry is iconic in this respect; it was a genuine threat to the german economy and so it had to be destroyed) to foreign investors for pennies!; once an agricultural power in the world, we now have to import pork and potatoes!!!

Do you think we enjoy the situation in which we have to migrate to countries known to be hostile, in order to SURVIVE?

Just to make things clear = I’m not a migrant.

This im my !!! personal opinion !!! in no way does it have a pretense of being widely accepted within the Polish community: BUT I believe you Brits well deserved that, which belief I have already expressed in one of my previous comments:

“UK which, through ages of the merciless plunder of the 3rd world known as Brithis Imperialisme managed to amass enormous amounts of wealth at the expense of the rest of the World.”

Moving on:
“If people from other countries come to those lands then you instantly create an employment problem. If they take the jobs, the indigenous don’t have one”.

It’s a pile of rubbish, they can only take vacant jobs, and so always end up with the lowes paid ones, such that Brits won’t even consider. They can only be hired in humiliating proffessions well below their qualifications, that’s why you have so many Polish dishwashers with MAs and PhDs. People like surgeons, on the other hand, from what I’ve heard, are highly regarded, and since vacant surgeon positions are rather limited, it is safe to assume they only hire the best applicants (and rightly so). You would rather undegro a surgery performed by a dirty yet skillful polack than a pure-blooded albeit lousy Brit.

From Magnus DP — Max: views on a scale of degrees
Darkmooners:
The discussion is getting interesting again as even Magnus now considers the int’l jewry behind the curtain (Wizard of Oz) reference. As mentioned above, in Canada we have truther Arthur Topham under threat by int’l jewry for his truth telling. Then today as I went on my usual updates on my truther-type websites, again Henry Makow posted an interesting take on WW2 and WW1 history for May 19, 2015: the post is on Appeasement and Illuminati Jews. The link: http://www.HenryMakow.com Appeasement May 19, 2015. I think all of us would find it interesting. In a way that article also puts current events between Russia and America in Ukraine and the Middle East in perspective as well. Henry Makow’s recent post also highlights an assertion that I have stated all along: regular common jews are used as scapegoats by the elite Illuminati Rothschild and agent crypto-jews of int’l jewry. To this end even the modern State of Israel is a trap to bring about an earthly Satanic kingdom HQ’d in Jerusalem with a Rothschild or Rothschild agent as the earthly ruler, otherwise known as the AntiChrist. I think that once we all read Henry Makow’s May 19, 2015 post, all of us will unite against int’l jewry whether we are Max, Pat, Lobro, Pat or Magnus. I must say that after the troll comment, things got more enlightened and we were all seeking the truth. Henry Makow’s post on Appeasement puts it all in the proper perspective. Heil Darkmoon for not even Henry Makow or Bro Nat followers post such insightful comments, despite some trolls trying to break us up. From Magnus’ recent comments after my troll remark, I believe Magnus is a truther defending Poland, which he has a right to do, but as Henry Makow points out, everyone was used, even Poland. So check out Makow’s post on Appeasement. I think that such truth would make all Europeans unite against int’l jewry, had Europeans known such things in the 1950’s. Today the world must unite against int’l jewry and use the principles that Jesus taught to overcome them. Thanks, Norbert.

Hi Darkmooners, I picked a beautiful TRUTH “cherry” out of Norbert’s writing: “Henry Makow’s recent post also highlights an assertion that I have stated all along: regular common jews are used as scapegoats by the elite Illuminati Rothschild and agent crypto-jews of int’l jewry.”
How true this is, as I have contended all along that a majority of the planet’s 20 million Jews haven’t a clue about the Illuminati-Rothschilds, etc. just like over 90% of Gentiles think Jews are lovely, all-suffering, religious people, as per opinion polls. …. Yeah, many Jews I meet out in the suburbs and overseas seem pretty ordinary to me and many are very poor. In Iran, the friendliest people in the world greeted me, including their own Jews who are not involved in the money-slave trade. … And my wrap-around-mouth, lascivious, Jewess lovers of yesteryear were the progeny of cafe owners, factory workers and “peep/strip” show proprietors.
But just as posters have been talking about “the German people (by majority)” supporting Hitler, and thus generically blaming ALL Germans, one is faced with a conundrum with the JEWS: As I’ve said, over 95% are dinky-die Zionists, even ya “peep” show owners and their slutty daughters that I was so enamored with in my younger days. …. And then one cannot forget the Jews’ love of carnality and forbidden sex, as per my girlfriends who took it all ways; and the Jewesses’ current penchant for licking dog’s anuses and being done over by German Shepherds, donkeys and such. ,… And then my Jewess lervers ALL told me in my voluminous pillow-talk of the small death, that they genuinely HATE Jesus and his Christian progeny. …. At the time I went along with them, as I had other objectives in mind, but these days I would belt them across their gaping orifices of mouths. … On the positive side, I know lots of Jews read this site and many are starting to get really weak-kneed about their supposed Jewish identity. The Jewish girls I went out with were never week-kneed and could haunch down for hours! … Re Poles, I don’t like them as they are very fat, smelly people and they are poor lovers.

I’m glad the Germans are beginning to reclaim the truth of what they have experienced. Perhaps the saying of the 21st Century should be “The victors write the history.” Now all these years with the war over and so many already dead who lived through the ordeal we have a voice of an old woman who remembers, and who is past the point of caring about her own fate. So she speaks without tears and yet the anguish is so close to the surface but she doesn’t cry at all. I thought she would cry and yet she keeps it together and carefully, rationally tells her side of a very profound sorrow.

Off topic, but one of my former footballer mates is being unfairly criticized in the Aussie/Jewish-run press! Yahoo Australia states that my former footballer mate, Dan Bilizean, and fellow rich dilettante and party-man
(he is known as the Candyman to reflect his sugar-daddy status with the young chicks) has been widely slammed because “he walks his wife around on a leash.” …. I’ve no problems with this, as lots of the beautiful, wanton chicks we have in our harems love being chained, whipped, doggied and put on leashes.
After all it’s a MAN’s WORLD out there; and our 100’s of young starlets would rather the relative freedom of a brief bikini and a diamond-studded leash than a lousy burqa! … On topic, everyone knows that the Holocaust is bullshit; and most people know the JEWS did 9/11; and now the Ferguson and Baltimore protesters (mainly rampaging young, boom-box, gansta-rappa nigrahs, snorting coke and inhaling grass and crack) want Mr George Soros to pay them the 1,000’s of dollars he promised them for rioting and destroying whiteys’ shops, etc.
In a sane WASPM run society these young nigrah ass-holes would be arrested and made to prove that Georgie Soros promised them big bucks to run riot and destroy civil society. It then follows that Soros would be arrested and jailed for life, as per Bernie Madoff! Thus the head of ALL jews would be taken out of the equation! …. Remember I told you a few weeks ago that George Soros is the new Georges Sorel and has exactly the same objective in mind: TOTAL CHAOS/KAOS, (as per Maxwell Smart and Mad Max) as a precondition to total Jewish rule out of Jerusalem. As Obummer’s right hand man, and son of an Irgun terrorist/mass murderer, Rahm Emanuel said: “There is nothing like creating a crisis in order to get things done.” The Babylonian Talmud describes the identical objective. … Laddies and lassies, I’ve got ancient references and books from the early 20th century which prove the JEWS’ simple recipe for CHAOS is simply repeated over and over again on the hopelessly indifferent, bunch of dumb-arse bubbas. That’s why I find it all so funny: The TRUTH has been out there all along! …. Besides Jesus gave all the warnings about the Jewish scumbags of the Temple and even the Torah (Deuteronomy) says they were hopeless bastards who YHWH felt were not even worth looking at! I think Christian-Zionists are funny characters – parodies of themselves! Hopeless, bungling ass-holes!
Nothing NEW is appearing in Darkmoon postings, but I guess they provide valuable information for people new to understanding the JEWISH HEGEMONY. …. Now where did I put that leash? The pussy-cat wants a walk!

Let me use a word processor to ensure proper punctuation before Gilby has a chance to reload, because this may be somewhat lengthy – lengthy but not slimy, positively unslimy in fact.

Technically you are right, Max, nothing NEW but this is not the issue. This is an iterative discipline, like yoga or meditation, to bring stuff into sharper focus, to deal with dilemmas and indecision, to bring them to a closure.

We are at war with Jew, at least I am and I suspect there are a few more out there who feel likewise.
Whether we are talking Satan and demonology of Kabbalah is not worth arguing about, Jew is concrete enough, his deeds of incomprehensible immorality are real and in your face, something worth going to war against, perhaps the only thing worth going to war against, at least this is my belief.

But we are not an army, only auxiliary troops, a cog in machinery that will take the raging behemoth of the Judaic program down.

Two way this can happen, by intervention of an outside power or by internal revolution, sometimes or often, in combination (witness the Jew fomented coups in the last 200 years).

We are constantly discussing whether the external opposition is real or window dressing and I have been arguing as forcefully as the known facts permit that it is real, that many indicators point to that conclusion but it is not a clinched deal.

Regarding the inside job, Felix posted a seminal bit about the steps that every revolution that succeeded in overthrow of a repressive regime had at its core.

There had to be a tightly organized, impenetrable cell of hard core, pragmatic yet highly motivated and trained tacticians led by an overall thinker and ideologist who laid out the campaign strategy from beginning to finish in real, achievable terms, step by escalating step.

Important point:Masses had to be restless, unsatisfied and highly sympathetic to this program and just as antagonistic to the ruling elite.

The first series of asymmetric actions were aimed at symbols of repression, assassinations of repression functionaries to demonstrate that they were neither omnipotent nor invincible and attacks on police and military outposts to destabilize the ruling machine, obtain weapons and cause a violent backlash against random public which would only increase sympathy and support for the cause, at which point the ball is rolling of its own momentum, each iteration of the cycle of violence-repression exacerbating the toxicity, weakening the rulers and strengthening the revolutionaries.

Websites such as Darkmoon obviously cannot hope to organize any effective process on their own, all they can be is interested observers, so all the occasional bitching here about, “hey, what are you doing to fight the Jew?” is due to either lack of logic or surfeit of troll activity aimed at provocation.
But, to return to my point highlighted above, websites can determine and disseminate the truth, thereby helping to shore up the wide support.

I don’t get the sense that any organized resistance is afoot in the West, although I could be quite wrong because its early success is highly dependent on total anonymity.

But regardless, the fact remains that our home populations are slumbering in ignorance, nowhere so much as in the United States and Canada and are unwilling and unable to provide much by way of popular support, if anything, it is still, “In Department of Homeland Security We Trust” and “See something, say something” paradigm.

We can help change that and whether we are saying anything new or not is irrelevant, so long as we dig up the truth and polish it for wide display.

And in the meantime, let comrades of the East provide open defiance and fight, if my (yes Pat, hopeful) reading is correct.

In the incorruptible land of Antisemitia, the societal order is not inverted with the faulty condition of up is down, in is out, over is under, bad is good, this is that, and so on and so on. The Yajoos are kept properly subdued and prevented from developing the thing which is not, as their perverted natal reality would incline them to do. The Houyhmhmns, keepers of Divine Reason’s eternal flame would always see to that.

Legend has it that in ancient days the Yajoos were planted in those righteous domains, with the intention of contaminating its inhabitants to soften them up for conquering. They would accomplish this initially by introducing an obfuscating method called the ‘tongue-babble’ – the invention of what are called “languages” for the purpose of inculcating and proliferating the aforementioned “thing which is not” into the realms of Truth. For perfectly happy Beings who understand without equivocation the Golden Rule of Law, this would sow dissension within their unsullied ranks, and lead to their ultimate demise.

The watcher’s aim was to prepare the way for a takeover of yet another unfortunate planet in order to relieve their homelessness, having destroyed the most recent one they usurped. But at this place and time their plans of conquest would be thwarted. Its masters would not be fooled, having truly heard the wisdom of its exemplary Alpha male, and thereby preserving the Omega. They would watch the watchers and knew their game, making the taming of the Shroods mere child’s play. And as children would they reign free.

Life moved on a blissful stream, yet word had it that there was trouble brewing on a tiny planet in a faraway galaxy called the Milky Way. Seems that some of its denizens had shirked their sacred duty and listened, but the admonishments of Alpha male to demolish the babbling tower and raze its spewing poison to the ground had fallen on deaf ears, and his message delivery vehicle was subsequently destroyed by the cruel purveyors of the thing that was not.

The Yajoos had dodged a silver bullet with this startling turn of events, thus neutering the power of mankind’s holy responsibility, and now, getting out of Dodge would prove to be a most difficult task of extracting ingredients from a mayonaisse jar.

The last chapter of the greatest story ever told, but not yet his, has yet to be written.

To add to your excellent post, the commenters at Darkmoon should understand that a new visitor, maybe some casual irregular visitors too, coming to the Darkmoon site do not sit and read all of the previous articles along with their many comments. Consequently, repetitious truths are not necessarily a bad idea if the purpose is to inform as many people as possible.

I am of the belief that more harm is going to be done than good on the internet. My reasoning is not for now, but in 50 years, when books are gone, and the net is the only source for info that is not in MSM.

This is from your link above:

Combating incitement on the Internet
– Removing Internet sites which deny the Holocaust.
– Canceling search results which advocate hatred (for example, a search for the term “Jew” in English directs to antisemitic websites).
– Establishing a national body in every country to enforce legislation and require Internet providers to enforce their rules against hosting hate content.
– Adopting a unified global position of the Internet industry against hate speech and antisemitism.

This is why we soak it all up NOW. So that down the road we will have become the TRUE elders who have put it all down on tablets, and stored in caves if that’s what it takes. Those in the resistance won’t be in front of computers by then anyway, if we are truly resisting that is.

Given the premise that the Internet was intended as an uberform of con-trolled opposition, then we’ll see just how much the trolls got out of it vs. those who weren’t conned by the trolls

Absolutely, Pat! Besides collecting books, ACCUMULATE them if you have a place for it. I like to browse in junk shops – where one might find a shop-keeper who is mainly into antique furniture, and doesn’t take much time to consider his book hoard. Recently, it paid-off for a friend who found the first American, Houghton-Mifflin unabridged translation of Mein Kampf for 25 cents. (I had recently paid about $200 for one, and thought it a bargain.)(It is endorsed by Emily Post, though…)

Things like McGuffy’s Readers may come in handy one day when we have to re-teach the youth of Idiocracy; as will old history books. Besides, it’s a fun pastime, and I actually READ them.

Darkmooners:
This topic and video have made things more interesting by the day. We all love it when the TRUTH comes out, although at the speed of chinese water torture, but eventually even that slow drip fills a large reservoir or brings down mountains. The truth just needs to reach the point of NO RETURN: the truth will be so massive as to eventually destroy the enemy. I think we are reaching a point that the controllers (int’l jewry) are becoming afraid of the truth movement and are doing everything to kill it and at the same time realize that they, the controllers, better act soon to realize their goal of a HQ in Jeruslaem. For if we do not slow or stop this goal, I’m sure Jesus Christ will. It is prophesied in the book of Revelation from chapters 18 – 22. Now to add more fuel to the fire, Henry Makow for May 20, 2015, did it again with a post about Zionists help to plan the Holocaust/Holohoax. See: http://www.HenryMakow.com for May 20. And as Max and I have said; Elite Jews used common jews for their purpose – migration of jews to their created State of Israel. And in this case those Elite jews were Zionists and Nazis. Then just as interestingly, a Roman Catholic like John Kerry is mentioned as a probable jew. As an aside, even people like Putin, Jinping, Hollande, Merkel and Cameron could be seen in the same light. World events for a long time have been documented as this way or that on a surface level, but a closer look makes it clear that history, especially from the time of the Rothschilds, 18th century onward, is full of Russian dolls, Pandora’s boxes or onion layers to deceive, manipulate and control the masses. As Jesus would say in a modern context, nothing is as it seems/appears. It is better to believe in the unseen rather than that which you see. I would put it as: Do Not Trust your Senses: the world as it is setup now is an illusion (Satanic int’l jewry smoke and mirrors). That is enough for me on this great post at Darkmoon and this post is probably one of a handful that nearly hit 200 comments. Now if only more people would make Darkmoon a regular stop in their search for truth. Maybe with more posts like this one that will happen. Thanks, Norbert.

Thankyou, Norbert, Phil, Pat, lobro and others!~ Where is my mate Gilbert? Is it his preoccupation with the hill-billy sheila in the terry-towelling bathrobe? It will make you go blind, Gilby! Regards.

Darkmooners:
I was perturbed by some comments concerning The Protocols and the authenticity of people like Henry Makow or Brother Nathanael or even Arthur Topham in their views on jews/ int’l jewry or jewish illuminati. All these gentlemen and The Protocols show is the tools/means being used by the controllers to destroy the goyim world. That is the reason The Protocols are denied as being authentic and not a jewish/Zionist document so as not to lead the trail to int’l jewry. I understand most goyim would trust someone more if for example they were jewish/judaic and then converted to some Christian religion, compared to a full fledged jew. It makes it appear as if they had seen the light and the error of their ways and are now being righteous in exposing their former criminal kind. This may be but, there are other aspects at play. Other truthers in this same vein include Norman Finkelstein, Miko Pelad, and the famous Gilad Atzmon. Gilad Atzmon is perhaps the best example. To me he comes across as Controlled Opposition but he exposes the truth about jews and the elite ones in particular. Gilad’s main point is that jewishness is not about race but religion, but even then jews factionalize themselves so much that the whole issue becomes so confused you can not think the arguments through rationally and logically to come to a sound conclusion. This is also the same thing that Henry Makow and Brother Nathanael do. To me from Bro Nat’s thinking, Putin is the answer to save us from int’l jewry, but in actuality despite Bro Nat not saying so, Putin just represents the same old Rothschild Usury Banking system with new clothes. The end goal is the same: enslave the world in debt, cause it to collapse to implement the new electronic system for enslaving and controlling humanity even more so. To understand this factionalization not only of jews but of the goyim, you have to understand the Hegelian dialectic. The more factions/divisions of humanity there are, the easier it is to control and conquer them because by pitting the factions off against each other, the controllers have to do less work. If you do not understand this, then maybe the example of Gilad Atzmon vs. the JVP would help. JVP is Jewish Voice for Peace. Check out GiladAtzmon website for more details. JVP is a jewish group that supports the rights of the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank. But when you look at their methods, mission statements and their rhetoric, you realize they promote Israel as the victim and that the Right of Return (ROR) of Palestinians is actually turned into the Right of world jews to return to Israel and especially the Occupied territories/West Bank. How convoluted is that? But that is the point, the argument gets so convoluted that only the liars/deceivers (jews) know what is going on. Gilad Atzmon’s campaign against the JVP went so well that a JVP post against Atzmon’s debate in Denver, Colorado failed so miserably, that the JVP was forced to shut it down, remove the post and comments; JVP’s campaign backfired. This factionalization is full of hypocrisy, but that is the point to divide and deter the rational person or even to lead the debate so it goes off the rails/gets sidetracked. Think of the GMO labelling debate in this way. GMO labelling is pointless if there is no choice or when GMO corporations buy up organic farms. The real way to fight GMOs is to get rid of them but that is impossible when corporations have a vested interest. So back to the topic of the Makows or Bro Nat’s or Arthur Tophams of this world. When jewish fronts like ADL or AIPAC or Canadian Jewish Congress protest against the Makows/Tophams, you know that Makow, etc. are telling the truth. When you have protesters talking about free speech but they are backed by jewish groups or George Soros, you know the truthers are telling the truth. But if you do not do your research, you will be confused or even back the wrong side. That is what they want. Confusion, obfuscation etc., to divide humanity. Take everything with a grain of salt or at face value.You must do the research and to help you with modern topics and events, a website like http://www.Globalresearch.ca is a great tool. Once you do the research, ask yourself if this new evidence supports your worldview as you know it? If it does then add it to your knowledge base, if not then, check your facts/evidence again. This is why Wikipedia is deceptive, they do write truth but to and for whom? Wikipedia for example when writing about George S. Patton, never mentions why Patton had a car accident and what happened to him in the hospital. The real story is that Patton had an assassination attempt on his life while in the car/car accident and then was killed in the hospital. Why would that be? The answer is that Patton realized who the real enemy was ( Communism) and would have taken the German POWs and his 3rd army to head east and destroy Communism/Soviet Union. But because TPTB needed a cold war and a reason for an Arms race for the Military-Industrial complex for profit, Patton was removed. Wikipedia will never mention that because it does not fit the false cover story TPTB want everyone to be indoctrinated in. This is after all the real purpose of the educational systems the world over along with dubing us down. Hope thats clear as mud. Thanks, Norbert.

Henry Makow for May 20, 2015, did it again with a post about Zionists help to plan the Holocaust/Holohoax.

Norbert,

Makow defends the holocaust, as he states his grandparents died there. He does not question any of the facts surrounding it and won’t hear about it either. He casually dismisses any contrary opinion to the official yarn, other than Germany and the Zionists ‘planned’ the holocaust.

He will not see that Hitler and the Third Reich worked with the Zionists in order to get Jews out because they wanted them in Israel. He sees Hitler as a Zionist stooge, a relation of the Rothshilds and an MI5 agent, under the control of Bormann. He does not question the 6 million figure, nor facts surrounding the so called mass burnings in Auschwtiz of Jews.He chooses to ignore Red Cross reports, not forgetting the facts that all German work camps’ communications were being intercepted by them, daily, not forgetting aerial photographs daily.

For someone like Makow, to be a prominent figure in the alternative media’s spearheading of the new world order, he point blank refuses to question that which must be questioned. On the other hand, Brother Nathaniel knows that the holocaust is a hoax. Both are very different in whom they accuse which sadly pushes me to the conclusion that Makow, is an incredibly good disinformation agent.

precisely so, harb.
why people choose to overlook this is beyond me and it also points to the common source of all these anti-hitler and anti-putin rumors that poison the blogosphere.
makow is just a distributor, not a producer.

i suppose a turd topped with whipping cream gets passing marks for some people and i am just a notoriously picky eater.
shame on me, i guess (or maybe it is sign of racist hate).

and i also like brother nathaniel, always did.
i know he is not a certified reverend, not a board accredited preacher of the word of jesus, because even though they all hate jesus and want nothing to do with him, they insist on issuing license for disseminating his word, so hagee got it, nathaniel ain’t, tough luck.
but he is a crazy, passionate street guy and not a word he said that is not from the heart and regarded as true.

holocaust is devil’s biggest bowel movement to date, bigger even than selling that apple to adam in the garden of eden and all makow does with his illuminati-bohemian grove ooga booga is to squirt some whipped cream on top.
bon appetit.

Henry Makow has now officially come out of the closet as an apologist of holocaustianity.
At least he admits that “the truth can withstand scrutiny and I object to persecution of “Holocaust deniers.” Kudos for that.