FTA: Kyle Bodda, president of the Sultana Gay Straight Alliance, said the atmosphere has proven distracting to learning."All students should feel safe and free to be themselves at school," Bodda said.

*pinches cheek* Oh, you are adorable. Now get in line behind the punks, goths, skaters and ravers who also want to "be themselves at school" but the dress code says no.

Though I have to admit "gender appropriate" clothes is a dick move. If I wanted to be flashy with silk and lace, the way I would go about is dressing up in Rococo style clothing. Then I could dandy up as much as I want because I would be within the rules. After all, they said gender appropriate, not era appropriate.

mekki:FTA: Kyle Bodda, president of the Sultana Gay Straight Alliance, said the atmosphere has proven distracting to learning."All students should feel safe and free to be themselves at school," Bodda said.

*pinches cheek* Oh, you are adorable. Now get in line behind the punks, goths, skaters and ravers who also want to "be themselves at school" but the dress code says no.

Though I have to admit "gender appropriate" clothes is a dick move. If I wanted to be flashy with silk and lace, the way I would go about is dressing up in Rococo style clothing. Then I could dandy up as much as I want because I would be within the rules. After all, they said gender appropriate, not era appropriate.

Lost Thought 00:Farce-Side: I saw LGBTQ in the article, and I'm used to seeing LGBT. Whats the Q for? Questioning? Quixotic? Quonfused? Honest question, no troll bro. Just can't figure it out.

Questioning

Thanks, that's kinda what I figured. I think it would have been better if they went with "Uncertain". That way the acronym could be LGBUT. You know, like "Large Butt". Then again, I'm kind of childish like that.

Lost Thought 00:Farce-Side: I saw LGBTQ in the article, and I'm used to seeing LGBT. Whats the Q for? Questioning? Quixotic? Quonfused? Honest question, no troll bro. Just can't figure it out.

Questioning

Oh for farks sake. I'm all for gay rights, I really am. But we're now going to classify people that may have a tendancy to think that it's a possibility that they might have an issue with what they think they want to do in the sack or what type of clothes to wear?

In one incident, a teacher told a student who commented that he did not have a valentine on Valentine's Day, that that's "because you're gay and nobody wants to be with you." In another, an administrator referred to a gay student's campaign for homecoming queen as a "joke." Another teacher told a student to "take the gay headband off."

The gay student's campaign probably WAS halfway between joke and protest, and you can't make a big stink about wearing self identifying clothing and then complain when people refer to your clothing by the label it endorses. You don't both get to have "gay pride" and complain "gay" is pejorative. Labels restrict the thinking of the person doing the labeling, not the one being labeled.

Whether or not gender specific clothing should be required entirely depends on what the uniform is otherwise. School is a place where you are safe to learn, not a place where you are free from restrictions. What matters more is whether the restrictions are applied evenly. As long as you are equally not allowed to endorse ANY overtly political position, which specific one being restricted isn't important. Likewise, specific dress code for the purpose of conformity isn't a burden all by itself, just because you don't personally express yourself that way. Express yourself on your own time, and self identify with divisive issues on your own time as well.

Farce-Side:Lost Thought 00: Farce-Side: I saw LGBTQ in the article, and I'm used to seeing LGBT. Whats the Q for? Questioning? Quixotic? Quonfused? Honest question, no troll bro. Just can't figure it out.

Questioning

Thanks, that's kinda what I figured. I think it would have been better if they went with "Uncertain". That way the acronym could be LGBUT. You know, like "Large Butt". Then again, I'm kind of childish like that.

Q can mean Queer as well. Some places use I and A as well (Intersex and Asexual), and the acronym is getting so long that a lot of groups are reverting to the classic GSA, but instead of "Gay-Straight Alliance," they use "Gender and Sexuality Alliance."

mekki:FTA: Kyle Bodda, president of the Sultana Gay Straight Alliance, said the atmosphere has proven distracting to learning."All students should feel safe and free to be themselves at school," Bodda said.

*pinches cheek* Oh, you are adorable. Now get in line behind the punks, goths, skaters and ravers who also want to "be themselves at school" but the dress code says no.

Though I have to admit "gender appropriate" clothes is a dick move. If I wanted to be flashy with silk and lace, the way I would go about is dressing up in Rococo style clothing. Then I could dandy up as much as I want because I would be within the rules. After all, they said gender appropriate, not era appropriate.

Prepare the case for your lawsuit after before you even begin.Let them fall into your trap.Make them squirm as you pull witnesses, fabulous, flaming, fashion experts to show how little the school knows about the history of fashion and fop.Make it a clear public record of how ignorant the school staff is.Oh, and profit.Jabbot rentals aren't cheap, you know.

victrin:Q stands for Queer/Questioning, referring to those exploring their sexual identity (Questioning) and those who define their sexual identity in the abstract (Queer).

I always thought queer was a touchy word with most homosexuals. Well, at least most that I've met I guess, but then again most homosexuals I've met weren't the flaming queen types but just dudes or chicks who happened to like other dudes or chicks. Kind of like the N word or calling a little person a midget? Again, not trying to troll, honestly trying to learn more.

Lost Thought 00:mekki: *pinches cheek* Oh, you are adorable. Now get in line behind the punks, goths, skaters and ravers who also want to "be themselves at school" but the dress code says no.

Well, Gender is a federally protected class, whereas I don't think the government has yet to recognize the discrimination against the goths

Gender is a protected class. Clothing, on the other hand, isn't. Especially since the majority of gay men do not crossdress. It is not seen as traditional dress for men to wear traditionally feminine attire.

Lost Thought 00:mekki: *pinches cheek* Oh, you are adorable. Now get in line behind the punks, goths, skaters and ravers who also want to "be themselves at school" but the dress code says no.

Well, Gender is a federally protected class, whereas I don't think the government has yet to recognize the discrimination against the goths

No, "gender" is not a federally protected class, unless you're going to try and construe that gender identity is genetically predisposed, which is an argument that hasn't yet been made to get gender identify included as genetic information. The feds recognize genetic sex, not mental gender.

Aurric:Farce-Side: Lost Thought 00: Farce-Side: I saw LGBTQ in the article, and I'm used to seeing LGBT. Whats the Q for? Questioning? Quixotic? Quonfused? Honest question, no troll bro. Just can't figure it out.

Questioning

Thanks, that's kinda what I figured. I think it would have been better if they went with "Uncertain". That way the acronym could be LGBUT. You know, like "Large Butt". Then again, I'm kind of childish like that.

Q can mean Queer as well. Some places use I and A as well (Intersex and Asexual), and the acronym is getting so long that a lot of groups are reverting to the classic GSA, but instead of "Gay-Straight Alliance," they use "Gender and Sexuality Alliance."

Yeah... gay dudes, you guys gotta get the acronyms set. It's getting confusing. Not sure if that's intentional or not.

As for the Prom... well... if I showed up dressed like Kurt Cobain on a severe bender, they'd probably send me home. They enforce standards as to what you can wear. Is wearing gender-appropriate clothing a part of that? Maybe, because you know some smartass teenager is gonna find a way to use this to be a smartass.

/retired smartass teenager//every time I try to get out of the game, they pull me back in.

TheGreatGazoo: They say that until some douche guy wears a dress to mock the gay kids.

"Ha ha! You're so gay that I'M wearing a dress!"

Yeah, I'm fairly certain that doesn't happen.

Never under estimate the power of douche-baggary. I could easily see a straight guy wearing a dress to with the intention to piss off the gay ones to see if they complain. If the homosexual kids do, then they are hypocrites, and he has successfully shown how some homosexuals expect tolerance but are unwilling to give the same respects.

I have nothing against homosexuals, just the ones who expect better treatment then everyone else because of their sexual preference.

Farce-Side:I always thought queer was a touchy word with most homosexuals. Well, at least most that I've met I guess, but then again most homosexuals I've met weren't the flaming queen types but just dudes or chicks who happened to like other dudes or chicks. Kind of like the N word or calling a little person a midget? Again, not trying to troll, honestly trying to learn more.

It can be. Many LGBT people self-identify as "queer" and want to be referred to as such. It is, however, a word with a sort of vulgar history, and a lot of people still don't like it.

A good rule of thumb is that you use it to describe someone who uses it to describe themselves. Don't ever ask if someone's gay by saying, "So, are you queer?"

There are formal pantsuits that are cut for women and not actually necessarily cross-dressing, and obviously a kilt is a male-specific item of clothing that's essentially a skirt of you want to go that route.

Or you could stop being a damned troll and just wear jeans and a tee shirt like everyone else on picture day so that they can get that shiat over with and go back to class. Bloody AWing teenage nonsense wasting everyone's time. I mean, sure, identity's nice and all, but you're in school to learn Algebra and Geography and so on, go learn about how to optimize your self-image on your own time.

Same goes for teachers, stop farking trolling your students over their social shiat and make sure they can add and goddamned subtract when they get into my classroom. I'm about one engineering undergrad who can't figure out how Newton's fitting method works from the textbook (something requiring basically Algebra 1) from snapping and building an army of death-bots to spot targets for my giant farking moon laser, so please at least consider actually doing your jobs for once in your lives instead of trying to "raise" the little buggers.

//Unfortunately intimately familiar with the lack of professional discipline in CA primary/secondary teachers.

FilmBELOH20:Lost Thought 00: Farce-Side: I saw LGBTQ in the article, and I'm used to seeing LGBT. Whats the Q for? Questioning? Quixotic? Quonfused? Honest question, no troll bro. Just can't figure it out.

Questioning

Oh for farks sake. I'm all for gay rights, I really am. But we're now going to classify people that may have a tendancy to think that it's a possibility that they might have an issue with what they think they want to do in the sack or what type of clothes to wear?

You're missing the point - the rest of us aren't classifying them, this is how they classify themselves.

Marine1:Is wearing gender-appropriate clothing a part of that? Maybe, because you know some smartass teenager is gonna find a way to use this to be a smartass.

My response to this story hinges on the answer to one question: If a girl shows up in an appropriate female designed three piece suit, are they willing to accept that a suit designed for the body wearing it is formally appropriate. For example, do ROTC women have the option of wearing dress blues with dress slacks?