Rev 9.17And so I saw in the vision the horses, and those sitting on them, having fire-colored breastplates, even dusky red and brimstone-like; and the heads of the horses as heads of lions; and out of their mouths come fire and smoke and brimstone.

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Compare to 100.1…

WaalAAadiyati dabhan

100.1And/by the horses of the warriors, blackening due to fire/changing color.

“wa” definition:

An inseparable prefixed conjunction; and; also; but; whilst, at; together; with; together with.Connects words and clauses as a simple coordinative “and”.It is used as a conjunction, unrestricted conjunction, and is expressive of concomitance, particle used for swearing (by God).

The definite article.In Arabic it is used to give the meaning of Most, All, Complete, Maximum, Whole, The, and to denote comprehensiveness, that is to say all aspects or categories of a subject, or to denote perfection and includes all degrees and grades.

Anything which has a quality requiring it to be regarded as sacred, or inviolable; which has some right pertaining to it.

It is also used to indicate something which has already been mentioned or a concept of which is in the mind of the writer or reader.

Feminine plural.The horsemen; i.e. the first, of the horsemen, that charge or assault, in a hostile, or predatory, incursion, especially; or horses making a hostile, or predatory, incursion. Panting; running; coursers; companies of warriors; chargers; horses of the warriors; wayfarers who run fast on their journey; swift horses, swift mares, the attacking forces; the horses.It comes from the root “ada” (ayn–dal-waw), which means he passed from it, namely, a thing, or an affair, to another, and left it, pass by, overlook, transgress, turn aside.He ran, or rose in his running; said of a man and of a horse; he ran vehemently; denoting a quick pace.

Observe that the root and its 48 forms all refer to the devil, evil, enemy & disobedience…

“dabhan” definition:

Accusative case verbal noun.Fire has taken effect so as to alter its color.Panting, shallow, rapid and loud breathing; blackening due to fire, changing color.Panting and snoring.It comes from the root “dzabaha” (dad-ba-ha), which means to pant, breathe in running (horses), snore; the horses breathed pantingly, or hard, with a sound from the chest; made the breathing to be heard when running; or breathed laboriously when fatigued; or caused a sound to be heard from their mouths different from neighing.The fire, and the sun, altered it; or altered its color; or altered it, but not in a great degree.He altered in it color by fire: he burned it in a portion of its upper parts.Ashes; so called because of the alteration of their color.

Revelation details the vision of John, in which he describes the attributes of the demonic locusts

John begins by describing images of the “hippos”, or horses, as being prepared for “polemos”, or warfare

Observe that the initial description is given only to the demonic locusts themselves – it is only later, after they have gone out into the world, that they have picked up “kathemai”, or their riders

100.1 describes the demonic locusts after they have picked-up their riders

100.1 begins with “waal” which can be taken as a swearing by a thing

The juxtaposed “al” informs us that “it is also used to indicate something which has already been mentioned or a concept of which is in the mind of the writer or reader”

Hence the material in this sura is not only very important, but it relates to something that is already known

100.1 elaborates on what is already known, by affixing the word “adiyati”, which tells us of the same warring horse images, and their riders, described by “the horsemen, that charge or assault, in a hostile, or predatory, incursion, especially; or horses making a hostile, or predatory, incursion”

The root “ada” informs us that this is an evil thing related to the devil

Revelation describes the horses, and those riding on them, as having iron breastplates

The breastplates are described as being “purinos”, or fire – colored

The color and description is detailed as being “huakinthinos”, or a red color bordering on black; and “theiodes”, or brimstone and sulphurous

Likewise, 100.1 informs us via the verbal noun “dabhan”, that “fire has taken effect so as to alter its color; blackening due to fire, changing color”

Further, the root “dzabaha” describes this as applying to horses.

“Dzabaha” also tells us that “The fire, and the sun, altered it; or altered its color”; and special note as to the location “he burned it in a portion of its upper parts” –referring to the breastplates as mentioned in Revelation

It is quite clear that sura 100 is referring to the Demonic Locusts as described in Revelation chapter 9

Replies: Posted By: BMZ
Date Posted: 28 May 2006 at 9:41am

Revelation is the most unrevealed chapter in The NT. It has never impressed me. I don't know why John wrote it?

Anyway, what is your point?

Posted By: Apple Pie
Date Posted: 28 May 2006 at 9:52am

Originally posted by bmzsp

Revelation is the most unrevealed chapter in The NT. It has never impressed me. I don't know why John wrote it?

Anyway, what is your point?

The Koran is composed of more than 50% Biblical Book of Revelation material.

Thus, the relevance of this is absolutely monumental.

The reason that you are not impressed with this is due to the fact that you are ignorant of where your book of faith emanated from.

Ignorance is bliss…apparently…

You can’t be bothered with studying the ancient languages, thus, once again, you can only fall back upon your opinion, as that is all that you have…