Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

All that money’s been spent and the food eaten or left to rot by the corrupt, thieving pols in that 3rd world rathole. Call me cold-hearted, but I don’t contribute to those things because of the same thing happening over and over.

There is a guy here in Detroit you may have heard of – Mitch Albom – who has taken on an orphanage over in Haiti. He’s raised money and recruited help to fix it up and provide food, books etc. The thing is, he goes over there himself to work and see how things are going every few months. Mitch is a big lib, but does a lot of good work, including in Detroit.

Yes, I’m familiar with him. Good guy, a little left, but seems to be OK. My only concern with these things is that most supplies that go into these countries still have to go through the gov’t. thugs and they’re gonna get theirs off the top. I have a cousin who is so well-intentioned and periodically goes over to Kenya to help in a friends orphanage. She has “adopted” 3-4 of these kids and I don’t want to know how much money she spends on them. It’s hard to get through to her exactly how dangerous it is over there and all I can think of when she talks about is all of those e-mails I get about my fortune just waiting for me after I send them 5-10K. We have too many kids in this Country who need our help. I’m of the opinion that when we get all of our own kids taken care of, then I’ll think about those in another Country.

Greta spent the whole program on it last night. I appreciate Greta. Love Samaritan’s Purse and Franklin Graham. But I vented a bit when they used the phrase that we need to “rebuild Haiti.” You can’t rebuild something that has been a third world train wreck for as long as I can remember.

Compassion can stand on its own two feet, either before or after an earthquake or a tsunami. It shouldn’t have to be wrapped in deceptive and misleading language.

That is the issue I had with my work computer. I was using an old version of Java (to use with an old application that required it), and my computer was “invaded”. Not even Norton technicians could get rid of it, so we backed up my data and formatted the hard drive. If you must use Java, keep it updated.

Thanks for posting this. I’d read it on FOX but just shrugged. Tonight I’ve had horrible issues with this site…lines of text scrambling left to right. So I upgraded Java and VIOLA! It’s fixed and my “someone replied to you” icon is working fine.

Say whattttttttttt? I guess we have to pat him on the head and tell him – good dawg. Like I used to do when the dog didn’t pee on the floor. He doesn’t get an extra treat for doing the right thing though. Mornin’ all. :D

Speaking of which, look at this post on the “wahhhh my taxes went up” thread that Rush talked about on democratic underground;
New Proletariat (5 posts)

39. A Good Start
Hopefully this is just the beginning. I am tired of being poor and low class just because I wasn’t born into privilege. I wish the government would confiscate property and equalize pay for all. Then we wouldn’t have to worry about this. We would be provided for and taken care of in our old age on an equal basis, as we should be!!

And then this:

Amonester (9,831 posts)

45. Welcome to DU. :)
The gov. could go confiscate all those off-shore bank coffers where the money is hidden.

And if these foreign bank owners were to refuse cooperating, it should put all these drone ships to good use for once.

Too bad it won’t ever happen (or I don’t think so).

Keep in mind folks, these are the low information obama voters. They now outnumber us. We are *so* screwed.

Income re-distribution = If you actually work for your income we will take 1/2 of it and use it to provide income for those who do not work. We will make sure that over 50% of voters do not have their income re-distributed. That way we will have a two party system. The providers and the provided for. We will always punish success and reward failure.

Our governor (Jindal) is currently proposing elimination of state income taxes and corporate taxes. His plan to offset this is to raise state sales taxes. Many states (TX and FL come to mind) do not have state income taxes. It is Jindal’s, and my, belief that taking these steps will make our state more attractive to business as well as residents.

But OH HELL NO! The filthy progs are already screaming that this “will hurt the less fortunate”. I knew that was coming. You see, the “less fortunate” pay NO state income tax and get back thousands via earned income credit, etc. I caught part of a news clip yesterday involving an AA woman (have no idea of her political position) squealing like a stuck pig that this cannot be allowed to pass!

I want to know when the hell the “less fortunate” will be required to pay *their fair share*? I’m fed up with these “less fortunate” riding in a bigger and bigger wagon while those *they* deem to be “more fortunate” pull it.

Yeah (sigh) I know I’m preaching to the choir here, but dammit to hell and be gone I’m gonna ‘splode if I don’t vent somewhere.

Wow….is that what having four kids looks like? (I should have had 3 more!) LOL…did ya see the maracas on that little gal…must take after her mama. (For those of you who didn’t watch the video…they were really maracas!)

After reading below link re the Section 8 Riot in Michigan & hearing some of the 99% speak so ignorantly about what having Obama in office has done to the US economy & our current way of life…has anyone on the Tree ever actually seen or know someone that has an Obamaphone? At the risk of wearing the tin foil, do you think the majority of those that voted for him that have the free Obamaphone could they have been brainwashed??http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/01/12/riot-breaks-out-at-housing-assistance-event-in-taylor/

The Citadel is primarily designed to defend against a grid-down, economic collapse scenario. When most people ask this question they are thinking in terms of defending against violent action but there are other aspects to defending ourselves. Self-sufficiency in terms of food, water and energy are also a form of defense against a collapse scenario so these are a major part of our plan.

The Citadel is not designed to withstand any direct .Mil or .Gov attack. Nor is the Citadel, in any manner, attempting to provoke any government entity.

They’re preppers. I checked out the specs on the site regarding housing. I don’t see it as a bad thing.

Maybe I’m misinterpreting the whole problem here, but the WACO setup was prepared for similar reasons, more soaked in distorted religious doctrines and lifestyle, but a very similar immediate purpose and rationale on the part of its leaders, wasn’t it? Maybe not.

I think it’s different. I find it odd that they chose Idaho since they don’t have state 2nd Amendment protection laws against Federal intervention there. Wilkow addressed that very issue on Friday.
Financial issues alone will keep out the riff raff. It will not be cheap to live there. An application alone is $305.00, $33.00 of which is non refundable if you’re rejected.
An acre of land with a 1500 sq ft house and shop will run almost 1k/month lease. That’s inside the walls. Of course, once accepted the lease is awarded lifetime status, with your residence structured for a 30 year payoff.
(shrug) I see this being, at this stage, more more carefully planned and structured.

I don’t see it as a bad thing at all either. My point is that our gubmint as it has been for a number of years doesn’t appear to think on any sort of rational basis. If they’re preppers, no doubt they will be home-schooling children. Instant flag for some gov’t. entity to do welfare checks on the kids. Someone in town will “hear” stories of guns being shot and therefore the sheriff HAS to do something. Someone in a nearby town will say something to one of them and then it starts over again. Rumors of child brides, illicit sex, on and on. We’ve seen how they work. They will be harassed no matter how law-abiding they are. It’ll be Billy Jack, Waco and Ruby Ridge all wrapped up in one neat little bow. Our own gov’t. has already labeled returning vets, Tea-Party “types”, and Ron Paul supporters as possible terrorists.

Schooling on site. That won’t be sanctioned by the State. Marksmanship is not a typical school activity, even here in TX. Don’t get me wrong. I like the idea. It’s just that you are putting a literal target on your forehead, IMHO. I went through the whole site. It’s pretty neat and I like the concept. I’d just rather lay low.

I’m assuming mean “putting a target on your forehead” if you reside in such a place. I feel totally confident that no target was placed on me for simply discussing the place. At least by government. :wink:

Contrary to rumor, not all people residing in Louisiana live in a swamp. Nor do I have webs between my toes and I don’t travel to work in a pirogue. (sigh) The WalMart near me doesn’t even have a dock for pirogues. We’re so behind the times I guess. :(

I was not mocking Louisiana one bit. I thought I saw a comment by you earlier today that mentioned keeping guns in the house for the purpose of shooting swamp creatures that might crawl up on the porch or might get into the house. Since I’ve never been to LA, I wouldn’t know–are people who lived in swampy areas looked down on?

Sorry…guess it was not you. I should never try to connect dots where a memory is required to do so accurately.

Yes, Louisianians are stereotyped, as evidenced by the quips I typed above. I’ve known those quips since I was a child when Mom and Dad took us on vacations all over this country. We *were* asked if we go to work in pirogues and if we have web feet. That’s a fact.

Don’t worry about it CK. I have no idea where it was. Like I said, I shouldn’t try to connect dots. It could have been an old thread for all I know…sometimes when admins are running around trying to solve some problem or other, we have to spend time in old threads.

For what my opinion is worth, people really do talk too much. Individuals and groups should do whatever they deem necessary, but why tell anyone what they are doing? It really is a bullseye on the forehead thing

Well, a young man who served as a volunteer at a Foursquare church in a little town not too far from here was arrested this weekend on child pornography charges–thousands of images on his personal computer. I’m all in favor of pervs being arrested and charged, but bothers me a lot that the arresting agency (and the only one mentioned in the news piece) was the Department of Homeland Security.