Byz and some of you other men ask the question "Just what the hell do women want from us men anyway?" Let us BK females fill you in, but remember no two women are alike, so use this as a guide, not gospel. Ladies, this is your chance to speak up and let them know what we REALLY want.
We want you to kiss us when you come home/back ,no matter if we've been together a few weeks or 50 years, no matter if you've been gone 10 minutes to the store or a month for work.
We want you to still kiss us regularly after we've been together awhile, not just as a prelude to sex.Ditto for hugs.
We know that men like to "fix" things and that you feel helpless when we talk about problems at work, with friends etc. that you can't do anything about. Sometimes your words mean well in these situations, but what we REALLY need is for you to just listen to us and let us vent instead of trying to fix the problem or come up with a logical solution.
If we have spent a lot of time getting ready to look nice for you and ask "how do I look?" we'd rather you answer by turning off the TV and really looking at us, not just glancing up from the game and saying "nice".
We want you to play with us, and I'm not talking sexually. We want you to laugh, joke, cut up, tickle us, chase us, play games etc. This is very important to us.
If we work outside the home too, we'd like you to cook a meal for us every now and then. You don't have to be a gourmet, a sandwich of cold cuts and a heated up can of Campbell's soup is every bit as good to a tired woman who doesn't have to fix it.
If we work outside the home we'd appreciate it if you could help out with house chores some too. That doesn't mean you have to scrub the shower and toilet. It means that by just taking the clothes out of the dryer , and perhaps taking the garbage out,and wiping off the table and kitchen counters, you have just saved us valuable time that we can now devote to you.

Byz and some of you other men ask the question "Just what the hell do women want from us men anyway?" Let us BK females fill you in, but remember no two women are alike, so use this as a guide, not gospel. Ladies, this is your chance to speak up and let them know what we REALLY want. We want you to kiss us when you come home/back ,no matter if we've been together a few weeks or 50 years, no matter if you've been gone 10 minutes to the store or a month for work. We want you to still kiss us regularly after we've been together awhile, not just as a prelude to sex.Ditto for hugs. We know that men like to "fix" things and that you feel helpless when we talk about problems at work, with friends etc. that you can't do anything about. Sometimes your words mean well in these situations, but what we REALLY need is for you to just listen to us and let us vent instead of trying to fix the problem or come up with a logical solution. If we have spent a lot of time getting ready to look nice for you and ask "how do I look?" we'd rather you answer by turning off the TV and really looking at us, not just glancing up from the game and saying "nice". We want you to play with us, and I'm not talking sexually. We want you to laugh, joke, cut up, tickle us, chase us, play games etc. This is very important to us. If we work outside the home too, we'd like you to cook a meal for us every now and then. You don't have to be a gourmet, a sandwich of cold cuts and a heated up can of Campbell's soup is every bit as good to a tired woman who doesn't have to fix it. If we work outside the home we'd appreciate it if you could help out with house chores some too. That doesn't mean you have to scrub the shower and toilet. It means that by just taking the clothes out of the dryer , and perhaps taking the garbage out,and wiping off the table and kitchen counters, you have just saved us valuable time that we can now devote to you.

Olderwiser,
Damn, for once in my life I must be doing something right at this dating thing!! Picked up the dinner check last night (just wings, no biggie)...and also have cooked dinner at my house recently several times. Nice to hear this is socially acceptable to men, a lot of my girl friends think I'm out of my mind to pay/split/offer to when I go out with a guy.
I'm with SC, with what it costs a guy to take a girl out now days, even to nothing fancy, I'd rather split/pay than sit home all the time cause my date already blew his budget on me. I also have a thing about non-drinkers buying my drinks. You can buy me a couple, but after that I'm buying my own, why should a non-drinker pay for my vice?

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Olderwiser2000 write:
Cinn: The old way! ( there I go again ) You ask you pay - seems to have gotten lost along the way.
Ladies take note, it doesn't have to be fancy - beer,pizza,wings and conversation rank up on top. Nobody said it had to be equal - it's the thought that counts.
Cinn and SC: I know there are more ladies that don't mind paying/splitting the ck. It just seems few and way far between. Inviting us over for a meal works too !

Re: Olderwiser2000 write: Cinn: The old way! ( there I go again ) You ask you pay - seems to have gotten lost along the way. Ladies take note, it doesn't have to be fancy - beer,pizza,wings and conversation rank up on top. Nobody said it had to be equal - it's the thought that counts. Cinn and SC: I know there are more ladies that don't mind paying/splitting the ck. It just seems few and way far between. Inviting us over for a meal works too !

Olderwiser, Damn, for once in my life I must be doing something right at this dating thing!! Picked up the dinner check last night (just wings, no biggie)...and also have cooked dinner at my house recently several times. Nice to hear this is socially acceptable to men, a lot of my girl friends think I'm out of my mind to pay/split/offer to when I go out with a guy. I'm with SC, with what it costs a guy to take a girl out now days, even to nothing fancy, I'd rather split/pay than sit home all the time cause my date already blew his budget on me. I also have a thing about non-drinkers buying my drinks. You can buy me a couple, but after that I'm buying my own, why should a non-drinker pay for my vice?

Cinn: The old way! ( there I go again ) You ask you pay - seems to have gotten lost along the way.
Ladies take note, it doesn't have to be fancy - beer,pizza,wings and conversation rank up on top. Nobody said it had to be equal - it's the thought that counts.
Cinn and SC: I know there are more ladies that don't mind paying/splitting the ck. It just seems few and way far between. Inviting us over for a meal works too !

Cinn: The old way! ( there I go again ) You ask you pay - seems to have gotten lost along the way. Ladies take note, it doesn't have to be fancy - beer,pizza,wings and conversation rank up on top. Nobody said it had to be equal - it's the thought that counts. Cinn and SC: I know there are more ladies that don't mind paying/splitting the ck. It just seems few and way far between. Inviting us over for a meal works too !

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Olderwiser2000 write:
June I'm sorry! I'm not talking about gifts. I'm talking about in general, I have only dated one women that ever reached for her cash to pay for a meal/drinks/the room! We dated a while :) It's hard to do $20 dinners. I don't pick out the most expensive place in town. I'll wait on that for a while! See how it goes.
Since I'm older, I still go to pay but it is nice once in a while to hear you say, it's my turn, you got the last one.
Somehow that never happens anymore! :(
Yes June! I like a good disagreement - ya just have to fight fair though. You have to remember that the things you say when your pissed ya can't take back. I usually say some crap about - are you yelling at me - start tickling, throw in a good kiss and that ends the fight :) Then I get told something about cheating ?

Found a two course meal including drink for 8 pounds last night. You are shopping ing the wrong area. Chinese still do buffet all uou can eat for 6 pounds. I think that's all under $20.
If home. I get the meal, you get the video, and small amount of alcohol (2 cans or one bottle)and we will make our own entertainment. Done that loads with gfs with young kids, what's the difference if it is a guy? none.
I have had money thrown at me, I feel insulted so i throw it back. It does confuse them because they really believe that's what I'm interested in. One jerk kept putting money on the table as he reckoned I had a price. i took the lot and shoved it in the bar charity box and still didn't go out with him. Filthy Lucre.
I'm a proud stubborn woman that can't be bought.
I forget a lot of arguements and hope the compliment is returned back. Rules of the morning after the night before. but also I have strict instruction from my mother what to say and what not to say even at the height of an arguement. But typical Irish blow up and cool down just as quick.
junie

Re: Olderwiser2000 write: June I'm sorry! I'm not talking about gifts. I'm talking about in general, I have only dated one women that ever reached for her cash to pay for a meal/drinks/the room! We dated a while :) It's hard to do $20 dinners. I don't pick out the most expensive place in town. I'll wait on that for a while! See how it goes. Since I'm older, I still go to pay but it is nice once in a while to hear you say, it's my turn, you got the last one. Somehow that never happens anymore! :( Yes June! I like a good disagreement - ya just have to fight fair though. You have to remember that the things you say when your pissed ya can't take back. I usually say some crap about - are you yelling at me - start tickling, throw in a good kiss and that ends the fight :) Then I get told something about cheating ?

Found a two course meal including drink for 8 pounds last night. You are shopping ing the wrong area. Chinese still do buffet all uou can eat for 6 pounds. I think that's all under $20. If home. I get the meal, you get the video, and small amount of alcohol (2 cans or one bottle)and we will make our own entertainment. Done that loads with gfs with young kids, what's the difference if it is a guy? none. I have had money thrown at me, I feel insulted so i throw it back. It does confuse them because they really believe that's what I'm interested in. One jerk kept putting money on the table as he reckoned I had a price. i took the lot and shoved it in the bar charity box and still didn't go out with him. Filthy Lucre. I'm a proud stubborn woman that can't be bought. I forget a lot of arguements and hope the compliment is returned back. Rules of the morning after the night before. but also I have strict instruction from my mother what to say and what not to say even at the height of an arguement. But typical Irish blow up and cool down just as quick. junie

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byzantium write:
Junie:
I cannot agree more. You have the right idea going here.
BUT.............
Women in today's society have been tought that money will solve all their problems. Watch the auto ads on TV and look around the streets. Women MUST be driving and they must be driving the largest vehicle on the road. The media has taught this to bolster women's self esteem and to emasculate the men. It's not a conspiracy, it's a marketing fact.
If only we guys could find the women you're talking bout.........
We're really not such bad creatures, we're just simple........

Maybe, we are still not as money orientated in England. Its still a faux pax to be discussing money or what you have got. Kinda bad manners.
Also as anything can happen and a person can lose the job and income through economy crashing, redundancy and illness. Does that mean she's the kind that goes through the door just when you need her?
I am surprised just how much men part with in a matter of days of meeting someone, hundreds and thousands literally. With a new aquaintance I have a limit with what I am comfortable with, and it would just be a few drinks, seeing a film or a cheap meal. and would never consider asking for any money or loans from someone i didn't know. But then I rarely ask for any from anyone i do know.
I would feel very uncomfortable being "carried" equal is good for both.
junie

Re: byzantium write: Junie: I cannot agree more. You have the right idea going here. BUT............. Women in today's society have been tought that money will solve all their problems. Watch the auto ads on TV and look around the streets. Women MUST be driving and they must be driving the largest vehicle on the road. The media has taught this to bolster women's self esteem and to emasculate the men. It's not a conspiracy, it's a marketing fact. If only we guys could find the women you're talking bout......... We're really not such bad creatures, we're just simple........

Maybe, we are still not as money orientated in England. Its still a faux pax to be discussing money or what you have got. Kinda bad manners. Also as anything can happen and a person can lose the job and income through economy crashing, redundancy and illness. Does that mean she's the kind that goes through the door just when you need her? I am surprised just how much men part with in a matter of days of meeting someone, hundreds and thousands literally. With a new aquaintance I have a limit with what I am comfortable with, and it would just be a few drinks, seeing a film or a cheap meal. and would never consider asking for any money or loans from someone i didn't know. But then I rarely ask for any from anyone i do know. I would feel very uncomfortable being "carried" equal is good for both. junie

I always pay for a round of drinks or two or pick up the tab once in a while for dinner if Im out with a guy. Its so expensive to live now a days, cant expect the man to pay for everything all the time.

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Olderwiser2000 write:
June I'm sorry! I'm not talking about gifts. I'm talking about in general, I have only dated one women that ever reached for her cash to pay for a meal/drinks/the room! We dated a while :) It's hard to do $20 dinners. I don't pick out the most expensive place in town. I'll wait on that for a while! See how it goes.
Since I'm older, I still go to pay but it is nice once in a while to hear you say, it's my turn, you got the last one.
Somehow that never happens anymore! :(
Yes June! I like a good disagreement - ya just have to fight fair though. You have to remember that the things you say when your pissed ya can't take back. I usually say some crap about - are you yelling at me - start tickling, throw in a good kiss and that ends the fight :) Then I get told something about cheating ?

Re: Olderwiser2000 write: June I'm sorry! I'm not talking about gifts. I'm talking about in general, I have only dated one women that ever reached for her cash to pay for a meal/drinks/the room! We dated a while :) It's hard to do $20 dinners. I don't pick out the most expensive place in town. I'll wait on that for a while! See how it goes. Since I'm older, I still go to pay but it is nice once in a while to hear you say, it's my turn, you got the last one. Somehow that never happens anymore! :( Yes June! I like a good disagreement - ya just have to fight fair though. You have to remember that the things you say when your pissed ya can't take back. I usually say some crap about - are you yelling at me - start tickling, throw in a good kiss and that ends the fight :) Then I get told something about cheating ?

I always pay for a round of drinks or two or pick up the tab once in a while for dinner if Im out with a guy. Its so expensive to live now a days, cant expect the man to pay for everything all the time.

I,for one, always expect to pay my share of whatever we are doing. If a guy hands me back my money at the end of the date, that's okay..at least I tried to pay my way. I also believe that if I ask you to go out and do something I should offer to pay.

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Olderwiser2000 write:
June I'm sorry! I'm not talking about gifts. I'm talking about in general, I have only dated one women that ever reached for her cash to pay for a meal/drinks/the room! We dated a while :) It's hard to do $20 dinners. I don't pick out the most expensive place in town. I'll wait on that for a while! See how it goes.
Since I'm older, I still go to pay but it is nice once in a while to hear you say, it's my turn, you got the last one.
Somehow that never happens anymore! :(
Yes June! I like a good disagreement - ya just have to fight fair though. You have to remember that the things you say when your pissed ya can't take back. I usually say some crap about - are you yelling at me - start tickling, throw in a good kiss and that ends the fight :) Then I get told something about cheating ?

Re: Olderwiser2000 write: June I'm sorry! I'm not talking about gifts. I'm talking about in general, I have only dated one women that ever reached for her cash to pay for a meal/drinks/the room! We dated a while :) It's hard to do $20 dinners. I don't pick out the most expensive place in town. I'll wait on that for a while! See how it goes. Since I'm older, I still go to pay but it is nice once in a while to hear you say, it's my turn, you got the last one. Somehow that never happens anymore! :( Yes June! I like a good disagreement - ya just have to fight fair though. You have to remember that the things you say when your pissed ya can't take back. I usually say some crap about - are you yelling at me - start tickling, throw in a good kiss and that ends the fight :) Then I get told something about cheating ?

I,for one, always expect to pay my share of whatever we are doing. If a guy hands me back my money at the end of the date, that's okay..at least I tried to pay my way. I also believe that if I ask you to go out and do something I should offer to pay.

June I'm sorry! I'm not talking about gifts. I'm talking about in general, I have only dated one women that ever reached for her cash to pay for a meal/drinks/the room! We dated a while :) It's hard to do $20 dinners. I don't pick out the most expensive place in town. I'll wait on that for a while! See how it goes.
Since I'm older, I still go to pay but it is nice once in a while to hear you say, it's my turn, you got the last one.
Somehow that never happens anymore! :(
Yes June! I like a good disagreement - ya just have to fight fair though. You have to remember that the things you say when your pissed ya can't take back. I usually say some crap about - are you yelling at me - start tickling, throw in a good kiss and that ends the fight :) Then I get told something about cheating ?

June I'm sorry! I'm not talking about gifts. I'm talking about in general, I have only dated one women that ever reached for her cash to pay for a meal/drinks/the room! We dated a while :) It's hard to do $20 dinners. I don't pick out the most expensive place in town. I'll wait on that for a while! See how it goes. Since I'm older, I still go to pay but it is nice once in a while to hear you say, it's my turn, you got the last one. Somehow that never happens anymore! :( Yes June! I like a good disagreement - ya just have to fight fair though. You have to remember that the things you say when your pissed ya can't take back. I usually say some crap about - are you yelling at me - start tickling, throw in a good kiss and that ends the fight :) Then I get told something about cheating ?

Olderwiser2000 write:
Well! After you do all the nice stuff, ya get kicked in the nuts. Then you start with your wall and hide your wallet! Anybody got extra bricks :)

Always keep your wallet until you know she wants you. Offer her a bag of chips ansd a walk on the pier and see if she's still interested. Men have this thing that showing yoru appreciation means splashing money. I notice the time, effort and genuine interest and consideration. Many can throw their money about, that's easy and cheap compared to a man genuinely giving a part of himself and interest.
Also women being wonderful apart. Its not very wonderful if its all one way (either way) and things run smooth as long as you say yes, open your wallet and meet all her/his needs. What happens when you say "NO" or are you not allowed to? Sign of a good relationship is ability to handle difficulties and conflict and still be friends. I like a good disagreement and debate and arguement with someone I love. Sharpening our brains. Shows you can take it without being nasty. (insults included but must be clever and witty) A good volley of insults and a barney clears the air before bedtime and gets the old sexual juices going.
junie

Olderwiser2000 write: Well! After you do all the nice stuff, ya get kicked in the nuts. Then you start with your wall and hide your wallet! Anybody got extra bricks :)

Always keep your wallet until you know she wants you. Offer her a bag of chips ansd a walk on the pier and see if she's still interested. Men have this thing that showing yoru appreciation means splashing money. I notice the time, effort and genuine interest and consideration. Many can throw their money about, that's easy and cheap compared to a man genuinely giving a part of himself and interest. Also women being wonderful apart. Its not very wonderful if its all one way (either way) and things run smooth as long as you say yes, open your wallet and meet all her/his needs. What happens when you say "NO" or are you not allowed to? Sign of a good relationship is ability to handle difficulties and conflict and still be friends. I like a good disagreement and debate and arguement with someone I love. Sharpening our brains. Shows you can take it without being nasty. (insults included but must be clever and witty) A good volley of insults and a barney clears the air before bedtime and gets the old sexual juices going. junieRe:

Re:Kissing in between...........is especially important!
CinnamonGirlOH write:
Yes, Pdonna kissing is SO important. Kiss me when you leave, kiss me when you come back, and kiss me plenty in between!
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theprimadonna13 write:
I couldnt resist this one.....KISSING is so important..no cheap kisses, meaningfull kisses...AFTER THE LUST IS GONE....thats when it gets real...like everything else in life. it can be gone in a minute or you can make a CHOICE to keep it special and NEVER EVER EVER take it for granted because it can be taken away in a second.

Re:Kissing in between...........is especially important! CinnamonGirlOH write: Yes, Pdonna kissing is SO important. Kiss me when you leave, kiss me when you come back, and kiss me plenty in between! Re: theprimadonna13 write: I couldnt resist this one.....KISSING is so important..no cheap kisses, meaningfull kisses...AFTER THE LUST IS GONE....thats when it gets real...like everything else in life. it can be gone in a minute or you can make a CHOICE to keep it special and NEVER EVER EVER take it for granted because it can be taken away in a second.

Yes, Pdonna kissing is SO important. Kiss me when you leave, kiss me when you come back, and kiss me plenty in between!

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theprimadonna13 write:
I couldnt resist this one.....KISSING is so important..no cheap kisses, meaningfull kisses...AFTER THE LUST IS GONE....thats when it gets real...like everything else in life. it can be gone in a minute or you can make a CHOICE to keep it special and NEVER EVER EVER take it for granted because it can be taken away in a second.

Re: theprimadonna13 write: I couldnt resist this one.....KISSING is so important..no cheap kisses, meaningfull kisses...AFTER THE LUST IS GONE....thats when it gets real...like everything else in life. it can be gone in a minute or you can make a CHOICE to keep it special and NEVER EVER EVER take it for granted because it can be taken away in a second.

Yes, Pdonna kissing is SO important. Kiss me when you leave, kiss me when you come back, and kiss me plenty in between!

I couldnt resist this one.....KISSING is so important..no cheap kisses, meaningfull kisses...AFTER THE LUST IS GONE....thats when it gets real...like everything else in life. it can be gone in a minute or you can make a CHOICE to keep it special and NEVER EVER EVER take it for granted because it can be taken away in a second.

I couldnt resist this one.....KISSING is so important..no cheap kisses, meaningfull kisses...AFTER THE LUST IS GONE....thats when it gets real...like everything else in life. it can be gone in a minute or you can make a CHOICE to keep it special and NEVER EVER EVER take it for granted because it can be taken away in a second.

Re:Seriously, You were happy being a door mat and never recognized that you had needs and wanted them to be met? Sorry but that just isn't believable or healthy.
harleydad56 write:
CinnamonGirlOH: Great blog topic / Habchick: Great thoughts -- However I will never understand how all this is supposed to work or make sense of it. I have expressed all the qualities described by both of you in my past relationships and in my 19 year marriage which ended 2 yrs ago. Eventually, everyone took me for granted and it became one sided. I never expected anything in return, but just the satisfaction that I was making a difference in someone's life. I guess I have a tendency to pamper and spoil the person I am with too much. Maybe somehow it's perceived as a negative trait to give of oneself unconditionally too much. Maybe, I have just not been with the right person yet. I just don't understand how all of this works. Women are dying to be noticed, cherished, loved, noticed, adored, and there are guys that want to please a woman in every way, but somehow, the connections are being missed. Just my thoughts, thanks!

Re:Seriously, You were happy being a door mat and never recognized that you had needs and wanted them to be met? Sorry but that just isn't believable or healthy. harleydad56 write: CinnamonGirlOH: Great blog topic / Habchick: Great thoughts -- However I will never understand how all this is supposed to work or make sense of it. I have expressed all the qualities described by both of you in my past relationships and in my 19 year marriage which ended 2 yrs ago. Eventually, everyone took me for granted and it became one sided. I never expected anything in return, but just the satisfaction that I was making a difference in someone's life. I guess I have a tendency to pamper and spoil the person I am with too much. Maybe somehow it's perceived as a negative trait to give of oneself unconditionally too much. Maybe, I have just not been with the right person yet. I just don't understand how all of this works. Women are dying to be noticed, cherished, loved, noticed, adored, and there are guys that want to please a woman in every way, but somehow, the connections are being missed. Just my thoughts, thanks!

Olderwiser,
Unfortunately what you said is very true in regards to men and women it seems. It's a damn shame cause that spoils it for a lot of the very nice people out there who would appreciate those things. People get hurt then they put their wall up, not wanting to trust or go out of their way to do those nice little things again. It's sad.

Olderwiser, Unfortunately what you said is very true in regards to men and women it seems. It's a damn shame cause that spoils it for a lot of the very nice people out there who would appreciate those things. People get hurt then they put their wall up, not wanting to trust or go out of their way to do those nice little things again. It's sad.

Hdad,
Yes, unfortunately after you've been together for some time it becomes easy to take your S/O for granted. I think more people should work harder to look for the good in their S/O, instead of focusing so much on what that person doesn't do.
My mom told me when I got married to look at my husband every night before bed and think of 5 things I like or appreciated about him. I know it made me appreciate him even when he was otherwise driving me crazy, as tends to happen from time to time in marriages.
I'm sorry that happened to you, and just be assured that there is someone out there who will appreciate those little things you like to do for someone.

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harleydad56 write:
CinnamonGirlOH: Great blog topic / Habchick: Great thoughts -- However I will never understand how all this is supposed to work or make sense of it. I have expressed all the qualities described by both of you in my past relationships and in my 19 year marriage which ended 2 yrs ago. Eventually, everyone took me for granted and it became one sided. I never expected anything in return, but just the satisfaction that I was making a difference in someone's life. I guess I have a tendency to pamper and spoil the person I am with too much. Maybe somehow it's perceived as a negative trait to give of oneself unconditionally too much. Maybe, I have just not been with the right person yet. I just don't understand how all of this works. Women are dying to be noticed, cherished, loved, noticed, adored, and there are guys that want to please a woman in every way, but somehow, the connections are being missed. Just my thoughts, thanks!

Re: harleydad56 write: CinnamonGirlOH: Great blog topic / Habchick: Great thoughts -- However I will never understand how all this is supposed to work or make sense of it. I have expressed all the qualities described by both of you in my past relationships and in my 19 year marriage which ended 2 yrs ago. Eventually, everyone took me for granted and it became one sided. I never expected anything in return, but just the satisfaction that I was making a difference in someone's life. I guess I have a tendency to pamper and spoil the person I am with too much. Maybe somehow it's perceived as a negative trait to give of oneself unconditionally too much. Maybe, I have just not been with the right person yet. I just don't understand how all of this works. Women are dying to be noticed, cherished, loved, noticed, adored, and there are guys that want to please a woman in every way, but somehow, the connections are being missed. Just my thoughts, thanks!

Hdad, Yes, unfortunately after you've been together for some time it becomes easy to take your S/O for granted. I think more people should work harder to look for the good in their S/O, instead of focusing so much on what that person doesn't do. My mom told me when I got married to look at my husband every night before bed and think of 5 things I like or appreciated about him. I know it made me appreciate him even when he was otherwise driving me crazy, as tends to happen from time to time in marriages. I'm sorry that happened to you, and just be assured that there is someone out there who will appreciate those little things you like to do for someone.

I don't want someone who just does all the right things, need a person, an individual. Can't go out and pick a man the way you would pick a car or kitchen appliance. May look ok and do all the right things but that's not what a human beings about. Have to spark my fire by your individuality and no one knows what that is still combustion happens.
Also lets admit it women go for th bstd not the nice guy and men traipse round after the hard cold nosed bitch. So need to throw all the books out.
Have lots of "nice" guys. not attracted to anyone of them as I am too innovative just to have a "nice" life. Hate smoothies who are always trying to get it right. Chill out, cool down get some mud in your soul and some imperfections in your life, much more interesting.
junie

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harleydad56 write:
CinnamonGirlOH: Great blog topic / Habchick: Great thoughts -- However I will never understand how all this is supposed to work or make sense of it. I have expressed all the qualities described by both of you in my past relationships and in my 19 year marriage which ended 2 yrs ago. Eventually, everyone took me for granted and it became one sided. I never expected anything in return, but just the satisfaction that I was making a difference in someone's life. I guess I have a tendency to pamper and spoil the person I am with too much. Maybe somehow it's perceived as a negative trait to give of oneself unconditionally too much. Maybe, I have just not been with the right person yet. I just don't understand how all of this works. Women are dying to be noticed, cherished, loved, noticed, adored, and there are guys that want to please a woman in every way, but somehow, the connections are being missed. Just my thoughts, thanks!

Re: harleydad56 write: CinnamonGirlOH: Great blog topic / Habchick: Great thoughts -- However I will never understand how all this is supposed to work or make sense of it. I have expressed all the qualities described by both of you in my past relationships and in my 19 year marriage which ended 2 yrs ago. Eventually, everyone took me for granted and it became one sided. I never expected anything in return, but just the satisfaction that I was making a difference in someone's life. I guess I have a tendency to pamper and spoil the person I am with too much. Maybe somehow it's perceived as a negative trait to give of oneself unconditionally too much. Maybe, I have just not been with the right person yet. I just don't understand how all of this works. Women are dying to be noticed, cherished, loved, noticed, adored, and there are guys that want to please a woman in every way, but somehow, the connections are being missed. Just my thoughts, thanks!

I don't want someone who just does all the right things, need a person, an individual. Can't go out and pick a man the way you would pick a car or kitchen appliance. May look ok and do all the right things but that's not what a human beings about. Have to spark my fire by your individuality and no one knows what that is still combustion happens. Also lets admit it women go for th bstd not the nice guy and men traipse round after the hard cold nosed bitch. So need to throw all the books out. Have lots of "nice" guys. not attracted to anyone of them as I am too innovative just to have a "nice" life. Hate smoothies who are always trying to get it right. Chill out, cool down get some mud in your soul and some imperfections in your life, much more interesting. junie

CinnamonGirlOH: Great blog topic / Habchick: Great thoughts -- However I will never understand how all this is supposed to work or make sense of it. I have expressed all the qualities described by both of you in my past relationships and in my 19 year marriage which ended 2 yrs ago. Eventually, everyone took me for granted and it became one sided. I never expected anything in return, but just the satisfaction that I was making a difference in someone's life. I guess I have a tendency to pamper and spoil the person I am with too much. Maybe somehow it's perceived as a negative trait to give of oneself unconditionally too much. Maybe, I have just not been with the right person yet. I just don't understand how all of this works. Women are dying to be noticed, cherished, loved, noticed, adored, and there are guys that want to please a woman in every way, but somehow, the connections are being missed. Just my thoughts, thanks!

CinnamonGirlOH: Great blog topic / Habchick: Great thoughts -- However I will never understand how all this is supposed to work or make sense of it. I have expressed all the qualities described by both of you in my past relationships and in my 19 year marriage which ended 2 yrs ago. Eventually, everyone took me for granted and it became one sided. I never expected anything in return, but just the satisfaction that I was making a difference in someone's life. I guess I have a tendency to pamper and spoil the person I am with too much. Maybe somehow it's perceived as a negative trait to give of oneself unconditionally too much. Maybe, I have just not been with the right person yet. I just don't understand how all of this works. Women are dying to be noticed, cherished, loved, noticed, adored, and there are guys that want to please a woman in every way, but somehow, the connections are being missed. Just my thoughts, thanks!