Take another Dreadnought - easy; though you really could do with more scoring units. Including the Interceptors you have 30 scoring infantry - you want that closer to 40, especially if one of the units is a squishy warband.

Your GM costs about the same as Draigo - too much for a non eternal warrior IMO.

Psyammo and warding staves are sucking up more points that could be used on bodies

Only 3 of the servitors can have plasma cannons and a chimera for them would help. Even if Cortaez and his retinue dont use it the terminators could and it has 2 extra ranged weapons

The body count is still low, but it makes more sense. SR guards from above/attacks fliers, NDK/IS are on the front line, OMI, Dread, and strike squad fire/ push forwards and land on objectives in the back utilizing OMI's psychic power to boost shooting, and GM + T (DSing in) take out enemies in the middle. Is this better or worse?

That actually seems like a really good list. If you roll well enough on grand strategy you could basically get the IS, Dread, or NDK as troops. Your list has a lot of dakka dakka and will do pretty well in CC. Overall I think it is a very balanced list. Me gusta. However, I feel like its overall short-mid range shooting with only you're psyfleman dread and SR to take out long range/high armor targets. Its more than likely you're going to go against a land raider or AV14 in 2000 points and it might be hard to take out.

Also, if there is ever a chance you need to capture 6 objectives you could make your troops into combat squads for more scoring. The list has a lot of versatility in terms of reserve. Almost anything can deepstrike!

You have taken the list in a direction that I would had gone.I have never had any touble with a land raider, 2 could be, but that is alot of points, psy cannons or dreadknights will deal with them, and as for takeing 6 objectives well this is not an issue, you only have to take one more then your opp, so just take out their troops, and you have the firepower to do this. A better list. I would look to have the g k strike squad doing the deep striking (if you think you need it) and keep the termiators on the board, they will lose no firepower from moving and they will survive better.I would also keep coteaz, first turn control is important and he is a level 2 psyker.

Lets look at what you are geting for the same pointCoteaz: an independent chatacter which gives you a better chance of controling first turn, can shoot all units that arrives form reserves within 12" of him, he has D6 st 4 ap- shots per turn or a bolter, he is a 2nd level psyker, 2+ armour save and a deamon hammer (s6 ap2)OMI: an independent chatacter, he has 4 s7 rending shots , he is a 1st level psyker, 2+/5++ armour save and a force sword and can deep strike.The only thing that the OMI is bringing to the table is a psycannon and an invo save which you already have a 2+ look out sir and the ability to deep strike.Coteaz brings first turn control, 12" reserves controll, good low st firepower and a 2nd spell.Your choice but I know which way I would go.People where I play complain about Coteaz all the time, they never complain about an OMI in terminator armour, this is the main test that I use for what I put in my army, if they are complaining then I am doing something right.

in that last list you created you have a single dreadnought and single dreadknight. Basically you have two different units doing vastly different roles and they are very easy to single out and take out (plasma guns are nasty!).Now, if you drop a dread and take 2 dreadknights (if you can move points) you can have 2 nasty monstrous creatures. Or if you opt to take psynaughts you can have 2 tough long range fire support units...

And opponent has to work twice as hard to take out your units cause if he takes one out the other one is still shooting at him

Pairs are good but it is all about redundancy, it is not important to have 2 of the same thing but 2 things that can do the same job, so you ask yourself what do you have to handle flyers, make sure that you have more then one units for the job and then look for the next thing. In this list the dreadknight, interceptor squad and the storm raven are filling the same role.Yes I do agree that dreadknights work well in 2's but you would have to drop the stormraven or the interceptors.

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