Friday, January 1, 2016

Steipler (Letters #10):Question: Concerning a person who suffers from severe depression who has tried to commit suicide. Answer. Perhaps it would be helpful to teach his wife to speak to him words of endearment and affection. Perhaps he is one who takes a very ascetic approach to marital relations. In truth that is what he needs for a cure as the Yaavetz states in his Siddur, "There is someone I know who fell into a severe depression and it became apparent from what he said that it is the result of studying Musar books. Because of these pietistic studies he only has marital relations once a week and that only happens after he makes many religious preparations and he only does it exactly at midnight...I told him that he should increase the frequency of marital relations even having them 3 or 4 times a week – or more. And he should be involved in showing affection and hugging and kissing..." Thank G-d he recovered completely from his depression and thus we see clear proof that the advice of the Yaavetz is very helpful....
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Rabbi Eidensohn, as a psychologist who recognizes that
there is such a thing as depression (which is not always cured by more
frequent marital relations) why do you publicise this kind of teshuva?
It may lead people to lose their faith in the Gedolim of the previous
generation, or conversely it may lead to an increase in suicides.

Rabbi Sedley - as one who appreciates your genuine intelligence,
commonsense and sensitivity - I am troubled by your question.The Steipler
did not say that sexual frustration is the source of all depression or
that a general cure for depression involves sexuality. Not all the
details are included in this letter but it is reasonable to assume that a
person with a history of depression and suicidal thoughts has been to
therapists. Has already been prescribed medication and psychotherapy -
but it isn't working. He is dealing with a person who he presumes to be
obsessed with mussar and asceticism and as a result has a very unhealthy
relationship with his wife. Such are not unusual in the yeshiva world
and people who suffered from inappropriate spiritual endeavors [i.e. too
much Mussar] were often referred to the Steipler.The point of the
letter and the reason it is given out to chasanim - is not to tell
yeshiva avreichim to avoid medical or psychological treatment for
depression. It is not to say there is no halachically acceptable cure
for depression for single men or women.It is simply to say that an
unhealthy focus in spirituality can produce depression. An unhealthy
attitude towards sexuality can produce depression. That depression
resulting from a warped understanding of yiddishkeit and one's human
needs - is not a badge of honor.A person needs to know what the Torah
expects of him and what his or her genuine human needs and obligations
are - and not try deny them by being a "tzadik".i

Rav Zev Leff recommends my 3 books on Child & Domestic Abuse

Click on picture to hear excerpt from Jan. 2012 Kav L'Noar conference. "I want to first give hakoras hatov to Dr. Baruch Shulem who provided me with Daniel Eidensohn's books on child abuse and domestic abuse which offered me many many sources and it gave me many many ideas to be able to deal with the subject properly. And I thank them and I recommend those books to everyone who is interested in getting a good foundation what the issues are in this very important topic."