The key word here is "program", and because of that qualifying word, I'd have to give the nod to Carolina and Duke. Both are storied programs with HOF coaches, their rivalry is known on a national level, they've had some of the best players and highest winning percentages. Other programs, like State for instance, have had terrific years and players, but to date haven't had sustained success over a long period of time.

The key word here is &quot;program&quot;, and because of that qualifying word, I'd have to give the nod to Carolina and Duke. Both are storied programs with HOF coaches, their rivalry is known on a national level, they've had some of the best players and highest winning percentages. Other programs, like State for instance, have had terrific years and players, but to date haven't had sustained success over a long period of time.

Can you also provide the head to head stats Mr. Bishop? I think you'll find the same advantage!

— Posted by BeastOnTheHill

Duke leads 132 - 102.....kiddin'

Flip it around...:)

— Posted by BattlingBishop 5

At least you are honest which makes it easier to hold a reasonable conversation! 903 and other young Duke fans don't respect the history because it doesn't benefit them. In their opinion before K basketball didn't exists and no records count. The truth is you see it the way I do! Two great programs that we are lucky to have but getting provoked by 903 due to his lack of knowledge brings out the worst in many and ruins the game.

Duke fans are constantly having to build the program up and share every little detail of current players, stats or former players if they have a good night! One coach gets all the credit and is bigger than the program. Everyday this is the theme!

Carolina fans rarely have to do that because we know overall the numbers don't lie! At the college level the program overall is on top, the pro level isn't even close and more than one coach gets credit for the success!

Most Duke fans are young and don't completely understand the game and the wonderful history behind it. And before someone says Carolina fans live in the past which has always been a lie remember that Carolina has won 2/3 between the two schools!

— Posted by larrys080 .v1

Duke fans are constantly having to build the program up and share every little detail of ...blah, blah, blah

Carolina fans rarely have to do that because ...blah, blah, blah

Must be why Duke fans have to start insecure threads titled "The best basketball program in the ACC"

— Posted by 903 mens national championships

I would go down the entire list of threads you have started on the Duke, State and Carolina boards due to insecurity but I dont have that much time! Isn't it your bedtime son?

— Posted by larrys080 .v1

You could do that, or you could realize that we are discussing it in a thread started by one of your fellow, insecure UNC troll fans.

Duke fans are constantly having to build the program up and share every little detail of current players, stats or former players if they have a good night! One coach gets all the credit and is bigger than the program. Everyday this is the theme!

Carolina fans rarely have to do that because we know overall the numbers don't lie! At the college level the program overall is on top, the pro level isn't even close and more than one coach gets credit for the success!

Most Duke fans are young and don't completely understand the game and the wonderful history behind it. And before someone says Carolina fans live in the past which has always been a lie remember that Carolina has won 2/3 between the two schools!

— Posted by larrys080 .v1

Duke fans are constantly having to build the program up and share every little detail of ...blah, blah, blah

Carolina fans rarely have to do that because ...blah, blah, blah

Must be why Duke fans have to start insecure threads titled "The best basketball program in the ACC"

— Posted by 903 mens national championships

I would go down the entire list of threads you have started on the Duke, State and Carolina boards due to insecurity but I dont have that much time! Isn't it your bedtime son?

Duke fans are constantly having to build the program up and share every little detail of current players, stats or former players if they have a good night! One coach gets all the credit and is bigger than the program. Everyday this is the theme!

Carolina fans rarely have to do that because we know overall the numbers don't lie! At the college level the program overall is on top, the pro level isn't even close and more than one coach gets credit for the success!

Most Duke fans are young and don't completely understand the game and the wonderful history behind it. And before someone says Carolina fans live in the past which has always been a lie remember that Carolina has won 2/3 between the two schools!

— Posted by larrys080 .v1

Duke fans are constantly having to build the program up and share every little detail of ...blah, blah, blah

Carolina fans rarely have to do that because ...blah, blah, blah

Must be why Duke fans have to start insecure threads titled &quot;The best basketball program in the ACC&quot;

Duke fans are constantly having to build the program up and share every little detail of current players, stats or former players if they have a good night! One coach gets all the credit and is bigger than the program. Everyday this is the theme!

Carolina fans rarely have to do that because we know overall the numbers don't lie! At the college level the program overall is on top, the pro level isn't even close and more than one coach gets credit for the success!

Most Duke fans are young and don't completely understand the game and the wonderful history behind it. And before someone says Carolina fans live in the past which has always been a lie remember that Carolina has won 2/3 between the two schools!

Duke fans are constantly having to build the program up and share every little detail of current players, stats or former players if they have a good night! One coach gets all the credit and is bigger than the program. Everyday this is the theme!

Carolina fans rarely have to do that because we know overall the numbers don't lie! At the college level the program overall is on top, the pro level isn't even close and more than one coach gets credit for the success!

Most Duke fans are young and don't completely understand the game and the wonderful history behind it. And before someone says Carolina fans live in the past which has always been a lie remember that Carolina has won 2/3 between the two schools!

— Posted by larrys080 .v1

If you are so confident and everyone knows this, why do you UNcheat fans need to keep on telling us this?

And you should look at the current year and realize you are not on top of anything.

Duke fans are constantly having to build the program up and share every little detail of current players, stats or former players if they have a good night! One coach gets all the credit and is bigger than the program. Everyday this is the theme!

Carolina fans rarely have to do that because we know overall the numbers don't lie! At the college level the program overall is on top, the pro level isn't even close and more than one coach gets credit for the success!

Most Duke fans are young and don't completely understand the game and the wonderful history behind it. And before someone says Carolina fans live in the past which has always been a lie remember that Carolina has won 2/3 between the two schools!

Duke fans are constantly having to build the program up and share every little detail of current players, stats or former players if they have a good night! One coach gets all the credit and is bigger than the program. Everyday this is the theme!

Carolina fans rarely have to do that because we know overall the numbers don't lie! At the college level the program overall is on top, the pro level isn't even close and more than one coach gets credit for the success!

Most Duke fans are young and don't completely understand the game and the wonderful history behind it. And before someone says Carolina fans live in the past which has always been a lie remember that Carolina has won 2/3 between the two schools!

After posting that link on here, you should probably also forward that link to the NCAA, as they have no clue what you are talking about.

— Posted by chapelthrillv2

So, no basketball players were involved in what Gov. Martin labeled an "academic issue"? Do you really need a link for that? Because if you do, that is what we have to assume.

— Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

Which basketball players were involved in what? I need names and violations. and how should they be punished?

— Posted by BeastOnTheHill

The NCAA says no basketball players were involved and thats the final word! They might have been the victims and deprived of the education they deserved but thats it! Those poor kids worked extra hard without the leadership of a quality instructor. So sad!

Can you also provide the head to head stats Mr. Bishop? I think you'll find the same advantage!

— Posted by BeastOnTheHill

Duke leads 132 - 102.....kiddin'

Flip it around...:)

— Posted by BattlingBishop 5

At least you are honest which makes it easier to hold a reasonable conversation! 903 and other young Duke fans don't respect the history because it doesn't benefit them. In their opinion before K basketball didn't exists and no records count. The truth is you see it the way I do! Two great programs that we are lucky to have but getting provoked by 903 due to his lack of knowledge brings out the worst in many and ruins the game.

After posting that link on here, you should probably also forward that link to the NCAA, as they have no clue what you are talking about.

— Posted by chapelthrillv2

So, no basketball players were involved in what Gov. Martin labeled an "academic issue"? Do you really need a link for that? Because if you do, that is what we have to assume.

— Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

According to Governor Martin's report, and an outside academic auditor, there was no cheating by anyone within the athletic department that hasn't been sanctioned already by the NCAA. So sorry for you, TBK.

— Posted by chapelthrillv2

No, they said it was an academic problem (without any basis for concluding that, btw), not an athletic problem, because non-athletes were also involved. They never said athletes were not involved.

But like I said, this is probably at least a year or two from being over, as much as you'd like to think otherwise.

As long as they eventually get it right in the end, and justice is eventually served, I really don't care how long it takes. The longer, the better.

— Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

LOL!

sing it for us Bradley Garland!Sooome where, over the rainbow, la,, la,, la.....

After posting that link on here, you should probably also forward that link to the NCAA, as they have no clue what you are talking about.

— Posted by chapelthrillv2

So, no basketball players were involved in what Gov. Martin labeled an "academic issue"? Do you really need a link for that? Because if you do, that is what we have to assume.

— Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

According to Governor Martin's report, and an outside academic auditor, there was no cheating by anyone within the athletic department that hasn't been sanctioned already by the NCAA. So sorry for you, TBK.

— Posted by chapelthrillv2

You are one of the most amusing posters on here.

You lose all objectivity when UNCheat is brought up.

When you only investigate what the criminal wants you to investigate you will never find the evidence. That is what Martin did.

So, no basketball players were involved in what Gov. Martin labeled an "academic issue"? Do you really need a link for that? Because if you do, that is what we have to assume.

— Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

According to Governor Martin's report, and an outside academic auditor, there was no cheating by anyone within the athletic department that hasn't been sanctioned already by the NCAA. So sorry for you, TBK.

— Posted by chapelthrillv2

No, they said it was an academic problem (without any basis for concluding that, btw), not an athletic problem, because non-athletes were also involved. They never said athletes were not involved.

But like I said, this is probably at least a year or two from being over, as much as you'd like to think otherwise.

As long as they eventually get it right in the end, and justice is eventually served, I really don't care how long it takes. The longer, the better.

— Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

Dude, the NCAA has already stated that they don't care. The Martin Report and an independent auditor have confirmed that there were no NCAA violations. There is only one investigation left, the SBI investigation, and that isn't even looking into the athletic department. Face it, it is over. There are no more investigations...it is done. Get over it.

— Posted by chapelthrillv2

Interesting, so changing grades for athletes is not an NCAA infraction? Who knew. Because that has been admitted.

And on top of that and we all know this is the case, the grades were changed to keep athletes eligible.

After posting that link on here, you should probably also forward that link to the NCAA, as they have no clue what you are talking about.

— Posted by chapelthrillv2

So, no basketball players were involved in what Gov. Martin labeled an "academic issue"? Do you really need a link for that? Because if you do, that is what we have to assume.

— Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

According to Governor Martin's report, and an outside academic auditor, there was no cheating by anyone within the athletic department that hasn't been sanctioned already by the NCAA. So sorry for you, TBK.

— Posted by chapelthrillv2

No, they said it was an academic problem (without any basis for concluding that, btw), not an athletic problem, because non-athletes were also involved. They never said athletes were not involved.

But like I said, this is probably at least a year or two from being over, as much as you'd like to think otherwise.

As long as they eventually get it right in the end, and justice is eventually served, I really don't care how long it takes. The longer, the better.

— Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

Dude, the NCAA has already stated that they don't care. The Martin Report and an independent auditor have confirmed that there were no NCAA violations. There is only one investigation left, the SBI investigation, and that isn't even looking into the athletic department. Face it, it is over. There are no more investigations...it is done. Get over it.

After posting that link on here, you should probably also forward that link to the NCAA, as they have no clue what you are talking about.

— Posted by chapelthrillv2

So, no basketball players were involved in what Gov. Martin labeled an "academic issue"? Do you really need a link for that? Because if you do, that is what we have to assume.

— Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

According to Governor Martin's report, and an outside academic auditor, there was no cheating by anyone within the athletic department that hasn't been sanctioned already by the NCAA. So sorry for you, TBK.

— Posted by chapelthrillv2

No, they said it was an academic problem (without any basis for concluding that, btw), not an athletic problem, because non-athletes were also involved. They never said athletes were not involved.

But like I said, this is probably at least a year or two from being over, as much as you'd like to think otherwise.

As long as they eventually get it right in the end, and justice is eventually served, I really don't care how long it takes. The longer, the better.

After posting that link on here, you should probably also forward that link to the NCAA, as they have no clue what you are talking about.

— Posted by chapelthrillv2

So, no basketball players were involved in what Gov. Martin labeled an "academic issue"? Do you really need a link for that? Because if you do, that is what we have to assume.

— Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

According to Governor Martin's report, and an outside academic auditor, there was no cheating by anyone within the athletic department that hasn't been sanctioned already by the NCAA. So sorry for you, TBK.

State just hasn't gotten away with their minimal cheating the way Carolina has gotten away with their MAJOR cheating.

— Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

Cheating??? What cheating? The only basketball program that has been caught cheating in this area is States.........and I have the links to prove it! Just think if Micky McCarthy would have had usefull tools like twitter, facebook or any social media. State athletics would still be buried. Lol!! Dan Kane has all of that and still fabricates 90% of his stories to keep the red ragers riled up!! Quality journalism is a thing of the past!

— Posted by larrys080 .v1

Key word being &quot;caught&quot;. And it's not even true. Carolina basketball players have been caught cheating. They just haven't been punished for it (yet). But, as always, it's not over yet.