Voronov can do well. He medaled at a CoC in 2009. It was Oda, Lysacek, Voronov. He had a bad injury but seems better and I would just be suprised if he was last.

Yes, he did do well there. That was also (I believe) his personal best score, and he hasn't scored that well since. He's just a really big question mark with his injury, though, and that's the main reason I had him last...the only others I see him passing is Rogozine or Menshov. We'll see, though

Hanyu and Brezina are a toss up too, but I think Hanyu will podium unless Brezina pulls off a quad or two. Brezina had lower PCS than Rippon last weekend, so I think that he'll need those jumps to come close to Abbott.

But, yeah Brezina will need the jumps to compete with Abbott and probably Hanyu too. He won't have to worry about getting into the GPF next week, so it's quite possible he'll be able to do the jumps since there's no pressure. But, then again, he could just as easily be careless and totally bite it. : /

But, yeah Brezina will need the jumps to compete with Abbott and probably Hanyu too. He won't have to worry about getting into the GPF next week, so it's quite possible he'll be able to do the jumps since there's no pressure. But, then again, he could just as easily be careless and totally bite it. : /

Geeze. Let's just ignore my entire post . You're right, of course. I just remembered being surprised by how close they were but I didn't think to check. Thanks!

I do hope Brezina goes for it without the pressure to make the final. Also, I REALLY hope Fernandez makes it. That would make for an unexpected group in the final, for sure.

Are all these Leonova predictions purely political? It's hard to believe so many GS posters think she's the third-best skater there. Go, Haruka!

She wasn't the 3rd best skater at NHK and she still won Bronze, did she not? (Hello, did we see Ashley Wagner??) It's partly politics, and partly the fact the judges seem to be buying that tacky Morozov choreography hook, line, and sinker.

She wasn't the 3rd best skater at NHK and she still won Bronze, did she not? (Hello, did we see Ashley Wagner??) It's partly politics, and partly the fact the judges seem to be buying that tacky Morozov choreography hook, line, and sinker.

ITA, russian skaters are always gifted (some deserving, some not), and she falls into latter category. Its all politics, and who every denile it should go and watch gymnastics to see the point.

Leonova has made her triple toe triple toe one of the more dependable things in all of skating!! Big value there! She is being pushed by younger girls who are more talented and she needs to do 3t/3t and be more consistent and she is succeeding for the most part.

Both Brezina and Hanyu are great jumpers with stamina problems, with Brezina breaking down in the last quarter of his LP and Hanyu in the middle of his. I expect both to do very well in the SP and Brezina's podium chances will depend on whether there will be underperformances or even meltdown by the front runners as happened in his previous two events. Barring self defeat, Abbott and Fernadez merit the top two spots and Gachinsky is a real contender for Bronze along with Brezina. IOW, Abbott and Fernandez will determine their own placements while Brezina, Gachinsky, and Hanyu need "help" from the top competitors. I don't see anybody out of these five to be on the podium.

Leonova has made her triple toe triple toe one of the more dependable things in all of skating!! Big value there! She is being pushed by younger girls who are more talented and she needs to do 3t/3t and be more consistent and she is succeeding for the most part.