BT were great for me for a while but then started upping the prices massively and made sure the broadband and Phone line contracts ended up finishing at different times.Have been paying through the nose for the past few months, and not getting the speeds either they promisedVirgin is in our area and offered to compensate to get out of BTBeing put in tomorrow.BT was £60, Virgin £29 for a yearIf you're wanting the sports though as a new customer I would have thought BT would be your best bet.

I have looked at the ZGemma 4k but am not sure what 4k content they have at the moment as even a lot of genuine 1080i content yet.

Not a lot of outlay (£45 inc postage) for a 4k box so it might be worth a punt anyway for little outlay.

If you know what you're doing to set it up (not too hard just need to ftp to add in a line) and pay for a line then it's worth it.Virgin is full HD, Sky isn't due to encryption. Virgin doesn't broadcast 4k so not really sure what the point is at the moment.

We have been looking at SkyQ but its still a costly set up initially as well as about £10 extra a month for what is already a vastly overpriced product. I don't think I can justify the cost, would rather pay Netflix and Prime for 4k HDR content I think.

If you know what you're doing to set it up (not too hard just need to ftp to add in a line) and pay for a line then it's worth it.Virgin is full HD, Sky isn't due to encryption. Virgin doesn't broadcast 4k so not really sure what the point is at the moment.

Not sure on overseas broadcasting but you'd need a motorised dish.

yet for some reason Sky has the better picture quality between the two

Freesat recordable box. Now tv box with entertainment pack £36 a year. Plex subscription £60 a year (sky, bt sports, 3pm premier league matches etc all in hd) which is also added to the nowtv box. I haven't needed the recordable function on the freesat box as everything is available on demand anyway.

Freesat recordable box. Now tv box with entertainment pack £36 a year. Plex subscription £60 a year (sky, bt sports, 3pm premier league matches etc all in hd) which is also added to the nowtv box. I haven't needed the recordable function on the freesat box as everything is available on demand anyway.

The fella I got it from will sell you a now TV box for £100 with it pre installed and set up to their server. As long as you have a reasonable internet download speed 6mb + it will work nicely.The now TV entertainment passes are available on eBay and you just top them up every few month as they expire.If you're on Facebook the Plex guys have a page. I'm not on there so until I get home and see the Mrs I can't link it to you unfortunately. If si pie sees this he maybe able to send it to you before I get home. Otherwise I will do it later. If you're interested of course.I've had it since April and I am happy with it. Sky is better as the picture clarity is slightly better but for the money though this is great value

thanks people leaving sky, for those of us staying it's getting easier to get discounts!

this year, 60% off for 12 months... so yeah, £26.50 ish for (non hd) sports + box sets. marvelous. I did however have to recontract for another 12 months..

if anyone else wants to try this year remember:

1. you need to phone up to cancel before any offers appear. then you will enter into a game of cancellation chicken. you can back out and cancel the cancellation if no offer comes up, or wait it out after it's gone for the very best offer..

2. they eventually offered my 10 month/50% off on phone after trying to reduce costs in reducing package and worse discounts.. I declined. do not take phone offer

3. the offer was right there on 'mysky' on the web as soon as I hung up. this year there was a 'take offer' button which took the misery of using live chat/phoning back up away.

You do know. Its not a case of if you get an offer, its a case of when and how much. In fact, to prove the point they'll offer 15% just by clicking through the "leave sky" and "still want to cancel we might be able to help...." link - obviously don't take this though!!!

www.sky.com/Cancel‎

Some are getting 70% + £100 account credit to return - but only after a month or three after switchoff.

Think I've had 1 year at full price sky in about 15 years. Anywhere between 20 and 60% off.

I get a letter almost every week asking me to return. Also regular phone calls. I get offered cash and huge discounts like batch has mentioned.If you have sky, cancel and you'll be made offers. You may have to let it be cut off first, but a week or two on freesat to save hundreds of pounds won't hurt you.That said I still won't go back myself.

My Openbox was £36 off Amazon and the gift code was £20 for 24 months. This provides me with all the channels for £2.29 a month. Ok it's not hd and does not have recording capabilities but I still have the basic package on Virgin for that, mainly for their excellent broadband. When I look back to when I was subscribing to sports and movie channels it was costing me over £1,000 a year. That's sheer lunacy!