The whole slammed stem thing is so gay. It's all about saddle to bar drop. You only usually need to slam your stem or get a "pro" HT if you have chimp legs. It's only 5'3" 120 lb jockeys who really need much more drop, 17 degree stems etc.. If you have 10cm+ drop and still have spacers you are still more dropped that the tools who have slammed stems and the saddle is like one inch taller than the bars. I hate this topic.

no point slamming a stem if the bike doesn't fit any more - old gits (like me) need to be comfortable in the shoulders. we are not all the same body shape so why should we assume a slam stem suits all... madness

I slam my stem because it's the most comfy position . I have just put my Trek together and even though its pretty much the same size as my Guru, I am sitting a bit higher so I will slam with a -17 degree stem . Im using a -10 at this time and when climbing or out of the saddle I feel hunched up . So I slam for comfort and the fact it looks cool is a bonus.

tinozee "The whole slammed stem thing is so gay " Bang out of order tinozee . Using gay in that context is offensive . you should be

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