Dear writer, I think this article should not only address China but "Olympic victims" of many many countries other than the west. It isnt only China that suffered, and it isnt only in 2012 that these things happened. The Olympics is frustrating, angering, and represents corrumption, bad management, subjectivity, racial discrimination, a global public shame of humanity, a laugh in the face, on worldwide tv!!!

Well the modern world of sport has evolved from the fun of playing games and with it's associations with fair play and character building and is very much a western conception -as of course is the Olympic movement

China has different traditions and really has only been seriously involved in international sport since the 1984 Olympics

Perhaps it will take them several more generations to really understand the point of sport and realise there is a lot more to it than arbitrary medal tables

Bullshit. Now the Greeks, who created Olympics and it's lofty principles, and whom you want to expel from Euro zone, you claim as the centre of the west? Go and read history - most of the classic Greek teachings and philosophies were transferred to west through their Arabic translations.
Britain and France at the height of the industrial revolution and colonial rivalry, reintroduced Olympics in its present commercial form as another competitive platform to prove national superiority. Now you usurpers and degraders of the original Greek Olympic spirits claim the ownership of the same Olympic spirits - how funny. And then have the cheek to criticise China, when it beats you in your own game. What a delusional humbuggery !!!

Sorry, but modern Greeks have nothing with an ancient Hellenes. (Same about ancient latin people (romans) and modern italians)
It's different ethnic groups.
Call them one people just because they live on the same territory after 2 k years, naive.
And modern Olympics created by europeans.

China beat who?
The lost on both total amount of gold and total amount of medals.
If we were really honest and counted team medals not as one medal but the number of people on a team China would be even further behind.

China beat those where it got gold medals, plus coming second in medal tallies.

Real point is China's recent progress in Olympics, in spite of Olympics being stacked with many obscure European Elite sport items, which rest of the world, even ordinary Europeans never practice as a sports.

Your comments just show your prejudice regarding some fallacious western superiority (albeit, INHERENT). You forget that western civilization is the recent last chapter of the Human civilisation, only few hundred years old (since Industrial revolution) - basically an insolent teenager in the seven thousand year old human civilisation, most of which werere centered in various places in Asia.

In terms of Ye Shiwen, please, please refer to the "legacy" of 5 or 6 times (a diagram released by the Economist too) of drug uses of the players from the US and other nations in their history first. If China should be biased due to its "not-very-clean" record, I bet these countries should take drug test for every medal they win since they have an even worse record.

What you dumb humbug western people do not want to accept that western medal winners are not suspected of drug taking by western media and officials as often, although many leading western countries have worse drug offense records than China.

You don't read western news very often do you? Western media is far more harsh with western people than they are Chinese. The only difference is that we don't cry as much as Chinese. China is a country of 1.4 billion cry babies.

Even Ye passed the drug test, west media still doubt her medal.
A crap article(full of faults) suspecting Ye even got published on NATURE on line, unbelievable!
Why didn't you western media just put some drug in Ye Shiwen's urine sample, uh???

what people sitting in a shithole with internet access do not want to accept is that the western media is not the western people. And by insulting "western people" you just reveal how narrow your view of the world is.

Yes, they drug test all of athletes and that's a good thing. The IOC did everything professionally and fairly. But the British media- not so much for the rest of the West- singled Ye Shiwen out for accusations of cheating.

(1) Ian THORPE -- a world famous multi-Gold Olympian swimmer , who came out to defend Ye Shiwen, saying that he himself had shaved off 5 seconds of his times , during the period of between his 15th and 16th birthday

(2) Michael PHELPHS also came out to defend Ye

(3) Ye Shiwen's Australian Coach appeared, a Mr, Woods appeared in Youtube to defend Ye

(4) An American Swimming Coach by the name of RUDD who is coaching the Bulgarian team, also came out to defend Ye

(5) The Australian girl swimmer who had lost to Ye , also came out to defend Ye

Of course. All athletes are using drugs. They only know how to avoid to be tested positive.
Why all current nations which succeed nowadays had been controled positive many times in the past ?
They only learned from their mistakes.

Many former doctors or athletes admit that. OG commity is aware, but say nothing or its business would be damaged.
Dopage is a huge hypocrisy.

It is more like to be afraid of being threaten to the rising of China than to be jealous of China.
Since it is a transitive era, everyone is sensitive, only psychologically be strong to endure everything can human being live happily.

Let's look at some of the labels that the British media stuck to Ms Ye, all within a week of her phenomenal win:

>A drug cheat;
>A nobody in the swimming world before the London Games;
>A genetically-engineered mutant;
>A "shemale" with questionable physical traits;
>A competition robot with no personality.

Mind you, none of this come from anonymous Internet toughs. Somehow, in the case of Ms Ye, it was open season for rags of all political stripes. The ingenuity employed by British journalists in this smear campaign could power the planet if there was a way to convert it into uranium.

I can't imagine how a teenage girl would feel about this. I do hope she has the emotional maturity to cope with this much scurrility.

The verbal attacker may be American, but it's the British press, known for its 'callous immorality', that sensationalized and embellished those very unfair and evil charges. There was not that 'benefit of a doubt' side of the story, with some querying into the intentions of John Leonard, the accusatory coach in this whole fiasco.

Besides, why was there no similar questioning of Michael Phelps' feat-- 18 golds out of 22 total medals -- which is hard to believe was performed without the use of steroids. He looks old for someone who's supposed to be only 27 yrs old.

Then, there's Missy Franklins, who actually tested POSITIVE for drug use just before the Olympics. Why was she not condemned and vilified??

Chinese assertiveness regarding its International boundary is getting upon the nerve. How about Chinese Army breaching International boundary with India in Ladakh/ Akshai-Chin, nothing less than 25 time in past one year !! And then it takes umbrage at drop of a hat and spreads a feeling of victimhood among its citizens.

You should not be ashamed of being an Indian, but being a manipulated Indian is to be ashamed of.

Because of the English people made McMahon Line, and you Indian took it as granted. There is Tibetan (Chinese) territories, not India. England has said that it was wrong to drew this line as a border already. It is your stupid politicians's fault. And China had to fight in order to push you guys in the negoiating table. It is your incompetent government can't made any decision because of too many different groups of interest and play political game with each other. India is the biggest demoCrazy joke in the world.

Interesting that your jingoistic frame of mind, has driven you to the level of using expletives. Indian democracy is definitely far from perfect, but I would rather refrain from taking your opinion seriously.. because you are not entitled to have an opinion in China. Hence, I can understand your stunted capacity in making an opinion. And I was talking about Ladakh. And not McMahon Line. You have clearly not read my post carefully.. and started thumping your chest in arrogant self assertion.. Remember "drop of a hat".

Sino-India land dispute can just seen as a whole case. China held some of yours and you held some of China's. Simple!

Zhou AnLai wanted to solved the dispute and made peace with India, may be just let the border as it is, but your incompetent government wanted all and built military posts extending beyond McMahon Line. That cause a Sino-India war.

Ladakh is a dispute region between Pakistan and India, partly belongs to Pakistan. When Pakistan handed his part to China, then it is OK. Non of your Indian business.

Why you don't mentioned ZhangNan, a huge territories which belongs to China and occupied by India? Are you hypocrite!

You still did not get me. I was talking about the border between Ladakh and China has been breached repeatedly by China. This border is recognized by China as International Border (unlike McMahon Line). And if you support Kashmir(or part of it) belongs to Pakistan, and rightfully so because of Muslim majority. Following same reason, Xinjiang should be East Turkmenistan... Right..?? One who lives in glass house, should not attempt throwing stone at others... (-- Confucius)

No its not.. But I don't write stuffs like "Indian is a big talker ".. Anyway, just check "Socio Economic conditions of Indians in USA" (Wikipedia). I don't claim that Indians are superior to others. I know my country has a long way to go. But don't agree with your sweeping comments like Indians cannot perform. Out performance notwithstanding, China's regional bullying is completely unwarranted. And my country doesn't need to be picture perfect Utopia, in order to oppose such muscle flexing. May be its time for you to reconsider your fatuous claims.
I don't wish to compete against paid Nationalists, whose next appraisal depends upon , how much he can thump his hairless chest on Economist forum..So I rest my case. However, you should focus on Senkaku. Red Dragon will bless you. Ciao..

Good for China. Similarly, a Chinese nationalist like PL123 is clearly not entitled, whether Kashmir should be a part of India or not. If they do, retaliation will come.
PS: Han Chinese majority in Xinjiang has happened because of recent flood of migration from East. In spite of all the effort of Red Dragon, news will find its way..

I know Indian perform well in a good environment like USA and elsewhere too, but big majority of Indians live in miserable condition, and good educated Indians are useless inside India environment. Political incompetent government, selfish interest groups and corrupted politicians are the obstacles.

Bully! India stocked up most weapons from around the world, why India need so much weapons when people are hunger, no clean water, no good road, no WalMart. Food for thought, really.

Remember this: today contain China, tomorrow contain India. India is not very far away of that, but Indian politicians knew that too.

Xinjiang were ruled by many empires (including many Chinese empire/kingdom too), tribes, folks before. And Uyghur are not the dominant folks in this area, they were also immigrants from far away--Turkei.

What is your point exactly. Internal misgovernance in India, is reason for your aggression ? How miserable India's internal social status quo is, I am well aware of that. But thats not issue we are talking about. If you remember, the beginning of this discussion, it was about China's muscle flexing. And every neighbour of China will vouch for that. Now dont call it America orchestrated string of pearl..

Are you newly born? The world business is American business? Since when America does not interfere German Polity.

You said "Han Chinese majority in Xinjiang has happened because of recent flood of migration from East."

So I am telling you the history of Xinjiang, it was occupied by many kingdoms and empires. People moving from here and there. Immigrants are quite normal as new Anglo-Saxon immigrants (invaders) in the N. America.

And India is just a geographic name with millions of tribes and coloured people. African, Arab, Asian etc etc.

Chinese assertiveness regarding its International boundary is getting upon the nerve. How about Chinese Army breaching International boundary with India in Ladakh/ Akshai-Chin, nothing less than 25 time in past one year !! And then it takes umbrage at drop of a hat and spreads a feeling of victimhood among its citizens.
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If you don't want to be labeled biased, then you should also mentioned the aggression of India, took ZhangNan from China Tibet that's why caused Sino-Indian war. :D

Chinese assertiveness regarding its International boundary is getting upon the nerve. How about Chinese Army breaching International boundary with India in Ladakh/ Akshai-Chin, nothing less than 25 time in past one year !! And then it takes umbrage at drop of a hat and spreads a feeling of victimhood among its citizens.

It is customary for western citizens or umpires to be biased towards Chinese counterparts for reason that they realy discriminated Chinese people and felt that the success is doomed to circumvent Chinese athletes.Therefore,they rejected and refused to accept the fact that the immaculate performance of many consumate Chinese athletes brought the house down.The only thing they need to do is to deprive the Chinese athletes of winning the gold medal or being involved in the Games in order that they appease their rattled mind.London Olympics should have been globalised and parochial at the same time but now be stained by the partial and unfair judgement.And it even tarnished the image of Olympics itself and sportsmanship. Westerners' condescension is traced to the Opium War and World War Two;they entertained the idea that their nations,coupled with arm force,were stronger and predominant as well as their weapons,coupled with contrivance,were state-of-the-art and sophisticated.Hardly are they able to confess the status is being reversed when the menace is virtually approaching and looming.They regarded this London Olympics as grist to its mill and to that of several Foreign umpires who can take this once-in-a-blue-moon opportunity to defeat Chinese athletes with despicable behaviour.

Am I a "native foreigner"? I'm afraid I have been oxymoroned out of being able to give a meaningful reply to this question. Is 5 cents really worth the amount of embarrassment you are attracting to yourself with your bizarre comments? I offered you 10 cents to say nothing, yet you appear keen to take the same amount of money yet appear as an imbecile. Fair play, at least you earn your corn.....

Are you a native American from "paper tiger" that is an emblem of your country with which numerous international incidents and military conflicts your president named Barack Obama confronted. The ineptitude of the umpires or referees left this London Olympics a lamented and ludicrous topic to be discussed among all participants and spectaculars as a whole.It is preposterous for you to make such an awkward comment at the expense of 5 cents.Don't you think it is time-consuming,energy-sapping and really devoid of meaning? To cap it all,presumably,you are an impoverished individual,economically and psychologically,who is always struggling in a poverty-sticken area in light of 5 cents you mentioned all the time.I will continue to reply you if you are generous enough to lavish your money on this remark.

As a Chinese,I think foreign countries have to learn to get along with a rising power,for it is an established fact.Though《nature》have made an apology to Ye Shiwen,but just like Bai Yansong,an outstanding Chinese journalist puts it,"Apology is good,change is good,but,is it a little late?"

Oh, get over it. That champion white Dutch swimmer was accused of using drugs. Ian Thorpe the Australian was accused of using drugs because he had big feet and hands. Thorpe is a white Australian. The Chinese will get few apologies. No one else gets them.

Getting along with a rising power is not the same as avoiding trash talking at the Olympics. Duh.

Oh, get over it. That champion white Dutch swimmer was accused of using drugs. Ian Thorpe the Australian was accused of using drugs because he had big feet and hands. Thorpe is a white Australian. The Chinese will get few apologies. No one else gets them.

Getting along with a rising power is not the same as avoiding trash talking at the Olympics. Duh.

Wrong. foreign powers only "have to learn" (nice that you use the imperative) to get along with a rising power that learns to play by established rules. Maybe you start with submitting to the forum rules before your rise. And don't hit your head on the ceiling when you rise too fast.

Wrong. foreign powers only "have to learn" (nice that you use the imperative) to get along with a rising power that learns to play by established rules. Maybe you start with submitting to the forum rules before your rise. And don't hit your head on the ceiling when you rise too fast.

Making a judgement without any pre-determined facts is the very definition of bias. You can't seriously dispute the fact that the Chinese claims are not unfounded nor blunt it by racially profiling its athletes.

It's simply a way for people who hate others to vent off steam and make them feel better about themselves. This applies both ways, of course.

That is true, is sport has anything to do with God? I remember the church had many times warning German believers not to blind believing in fitness studio, body building (sport) instead go to church. What a joke...

Same chip-on-the-shoulder is found, to-a-greater-or-lesser-degree everywhere, and, most prominently, in the Muslim world. Not that China doesn't have a xenophobic and ethnic bias, in spades. But its the program.

China will continue to be put under scrutiny until it becomes a fully civilized country. That just happens to include being a proper functioning democracy. There are other countries like Russia which fall foul of the same standard.
And even if China were to become fully democratic, if it was also the strongest country in the world it would still take scrutiny - much unfair. That is the burden of being top dog and it will never change. To be the worlds greatest country you also need a tough heart.
They will have to learn to behave properly. Look at the respective reactions between Japan and China on their respective citizens landing on disputed islands. In Japan, civilized activism. In China burning and smashing cars and restaurants and so on. Catch up China, and learn a thing or two from Japan.

We have our own culture,you have yours.What is a fully civilized country?Your country?Civilisation is just a definition.Every country,every person have their own understanding about civilisation.To care about your own country,not others'.This is an educated civilized person should do.If you think you are a civilized person,just shut up and make your country better.

I have not seen any report in Chinese or English saying that Chinese burnt Japanese cars or restaurants (they did burn Japanese flags) in the protests recently due to the landing on Diaoyu islands. If you do have resources, please show it. Otherwise I have to ask you not to spread rumors. Secondly, if you're talking about Diaoyu islands, since they are under Japanese controls currently (Japan has the upper hand), it is understandable that as one part in this dispute, Chinese people feel much more angry and frustrating than the Japanese do. Plus China has about ten times larger population. The protest scale of Chinese people will be much larger and the protest might be probably less predictable. I believe if it is Chinese army controling those islands. It will be the other way.

[Clint.Southward2 hours 34 mins ago
China will continue to be put under scrutiny until it becomes a fully civilized country. That just happens to include being a proper functioning democracy. There are other countries like Russia which fall foul of the same standard.]

I applaud your editorial of 22 June, in which you exposed the insidious manner in which the Japanese parliament and government had glossed over the crimes and genocides the Japanese Imperial Army had committed against the peoples of East Asia.

Your effort is to be commended and I hope you will extend it and apply it in an impartial and unbiased manner.

The crimes of Japan during World War II is but one of the crimes against humanity in recent history and it is not even the most serious.

Far more sinister are those committed by the whites against the non-whites, with the racial genocides carried out in America and Australia being the most systematic and thorough.

These are the most hideous crimes against humanity- surpassing, in scale and thoroughness, even Hitler's organized pogrom of the Jews and the Slavs. But while the whites react with anger and indignation to the massacres of their own kind, they continue to glorify and celebrate their genocidal achievements when their victims are non-Europeans.

We all should now wake up to the fact that the regimes thus established are illegal, immoral and illegitimate. For the sake of justice and legality, these criminal regimes must be abolished. Only then can a just "New World Order" prevail.

The South China Morning Post, having so bravely exposed the lies and deceit of the Japanese, should now take up this new task with added courage and vigour, and thus set a moral journalistic standard for the rest of the "Free Press" to follow.

Sincerely

**Censored by "The Free Press", Refused publication**}

[And even if China were to become fully democratic, if it was also the strongest country in the world it would still take scrutiny - much unfair. That is the burden of being top dog and it will never change. To be the worlds greatest country you also need a tough heart.
They will have to learn to behave properly. Look at the respective reactions between Japan and China on their respective citizens landing on disputed islands. In Japan, civilized activism. In China burning and smashing cars and restaurants and so on. Catch up China, and learn a thing or two from Japan.]

Japan, of course, has it own version of "civilised activism". Here is an example:

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"China never defeated Japan. Japan surrendered only to the United States."http://www.economist.com/.../1537197#...-1537196
{[Kara no reply to Pacific 15th, 04:30
China never defeated Japan. Japan surrendered only to the United States. ]
There is some truth in your statement and it only confirms what many believe, which is that the Japanese only respects BRUTE FIRCE. There is also some eerie similarity in mentality between the Japan of today and Germany between the World Wars.
After WWI, the German army felt "betrayed" by their politicians, who surrendered "without being militarily defeated". As a result the German right-wing did not feel obliged to accept the terms of their defeat. All that changed after WWII, in which Germany was not only soundly defeated but did so by its main victim-- USSR. The Rape of Berlin woke up the Germans so much that the denial of the Holocaust became a crime in Germany.
The fact that the main victims of Imperial Japan-- China, Korea-- did not actually militarily defeated Japan now make the Japanese right-wing arrogant. They feel that they are superior to their former victims while instinctively submitting to their white conquerors. It will have to take a "Rape of Tokyo" to bring them to their senses.
Needless to say, your statement above merely admits that, of the War in the Pacific and East Asia, only the part between Japan and the US is settled. The part between Japan and its Asian victims is still unfinished and remains suspended. Like the war in Europe, it will take a 2nd session to bring it to conclusion. Fortunately, unlike the first session, this 2nd session will be fought when the aggressor, Japan, will be weak while its victims, China, Korea and other Asian countries, will be strong. THAT will be poetic justice done!}
Another comment:
"It's meant to provoke and be taboo breaking because of the overwhelming view by many that the bombings were unjustified and weren't the best thing to do to end the war. On top of that is Japanese self-victimization while they openly ignore the majority of the atrocities they committed in the Far East.
It's an overall extension of their view on the war, which I've summed up as "We're sorry.... we lost."
I'll defend the Dresden bombing as ardently as Hiroshima or Tokyo, but that doesn't come up nearly as much as much, or is mocked with happiness on it's anniversary, because the Germans as a whole have really shown that they acknowledge the evil that they did during the war and only a small minority have taken the victimized route over the bombing and most of them are Neo-Nazi's.
One is a country that is repentant, the other always keeps coming off as holding to the same mentality they had during the war, only instead of them being the Master Yamato Race that was the center of the universe and destined to conquer the eight corners of the world, it's the the Yamato race angry that America had the gall to slaughter them on as massive a scale as they themselves were doing to the Chinese and other Orientals"http://warships1discussionboards.yuku.com/topic/20939/Hiroshima-Day?page=2
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He said smash cars and restaurants. Burn flags. All of which can be seen on Youtube. There is actually a pretty funny photo out there of Chinese people all lined up tipping over Japanese cars and taking photos of it with Japanese cameras. I guess it is only cool if you didn't pay for the property yourself. haha.

The problem arises from a misunderstanding of the press. Many look to the Chinese press and doubt its impartiality. Those same people look to the American or European press and expect them to be uniformly upholding high journalistic standards. This admiration for all things western has a long history and comes from a misunderstanding of how western ideals evolved. So just like a previous generation of young Chinese who felt betrayed by the West and ignited the May 4th movement, so now the average Chinese is again learning the important lesson that our press is not an impartial observer but a business enterprise that reflects the views of its readership. They will do well to build a first rate news and media empire of their own. 1.3 billion subscriptions can fund the writing of a lot of stories.