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EU Roundtable #3.1

Who'd've thought we'd actually get into Series 3 with these? When I became aware of the impending first anniversary of the Wookieepedia, I decided to do this Roundtable in its honor. Joining me are the site's two founders and one of its earliest administrators; in other words, three guys without whom the site wouldn't exist. If you were heretofore unfamiliar with this site, let me apologize now: a lot of this chat will go over your head. But really, isn't that just one more reason to sign up?

The guests:

Aidan Hennessy,
aka QuentinGeorge, site administrator.

Chad Barbry,
aka WhiteBoy, site-co-founder.

Steven Greenwood, aka
Riffsyphon1024, site co-founder.

And after a two-Roundtable absence, I, Mike Cooper,
am back in the moderator’s seat.

You have just entered room
"EU Roundtable."

Mike Cooper: How did you all get your start with the
wiki world?

Chad Barbry: well, I'm
a techie kind of guy, and some of my friends were telling me about wikis

Chad Barbry: then one
day they told me about wikipedia

Chad Barbry: got
hooked on Wikipedia pretty quick

Steven Greenwood:
Well I basically got into Wikipedia in January of 2005, after searching around
on Google. My life was a total mess at that point and contributing to it gave
me some solace.

Steven Greenwood:
I started editing the article of my hometown, and increased its size
dramatically. I was hooked and added more things here and there, mostly to
articles pertaining to local things

Mike Cooper: what's your hometown?

Steven Greenwood:
Clarksville Tennessee, a city of over a 100,000

Chad Barbry: I was
editing all kinds of stuff on Wikipedia ...various topics of interest

Chad Barbry: and,
obviously, one of my main interests is Star Wars

Steven Greenwood:
i also added info for my college

Aidan Hennessy: I
think my entry into the Wikipedia world was pretty much similar, there, but I
might have been in a bit earlier than these two guys.

Steven Greenwood:
but I agree with Chad, the biggest contributions afterward were to Star Wars
articles

Chad Barbry: lol...me
too when I was a noob...I did a copyvio )

Mike Cooper: earlier

Aidan Hennessy: Early
2004 was when I started delving into that realm....and believe it or not, it
was mainly non SW related articles.

Steven Greenwood:
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:riffsyphon1024 for more details

Mike Cooper: i think it's really interesting to see
the early work of people who contribute all the time now...i for one was locked
in publicity mode for a while

Chad Barbry: looks
like I started on Wikipedia around October 2004

Steven Greenwood:
included in there is a list of article's Votes (articles) for Deletion that I
attempted to save by the deletionist GRider

Aidan Hennessy: Ah,
you and I weren't too far off then Chad.

Steven Greenwood: henceforth
known as the Great LucasCruft Purge

Mike Cooper: were you guys both involved in the
purge?

Steven Greenwood:
Kappa and I were, Chad was not

Chad Barbry: ah, the
Great LucasCruft Purge

Mike Cooper: kappa?

Steven Greenwood:
another Wikipedian

Aidan Hennessy: I had
written some of the articles that were purged, but I wasn't involved in the
deletion articles.

Steven Greenwood:
but never moved over here

Aidan Hennessy: Not
sure why....I guess I wasn't aware of them.

Mike Cooper: hat happened to kappa after the move

Chad Barbry: yeah, I
got involved kinda late it the purge

Steven Greenwood:
im not sure where we went, probably still there contributing

Steven Greenwood:
he

Steven Greenwood: as
for my part in the Purge, my article of Repulsorlift was one of them, it was
decided to be kept fortunately

Mike Cooper: maybe you should expand on what the
purge entailed for people who haven't heard about it

Mike Cooper: no [[linking]] here, sadly =)

Steven Greenwood:
lol

Steven Greenwood:
could you reword that please

Chad Barbry: tell him
about the purge

Aidan Hennessy:
Basically, several Wikipedians with a point to prove decided to rid the
wikipedia of articles they deemed too minor to be of interest

Steven Greenwood:
right

Mike Cooper: thank you, chad =)

Chad Barbry: good
summary aidan

Steven Greenwood:
yes, as they were non-notable for wikipedia they were sent to the VFD grinder

Mike Cooper: but it was primarily SW-related items

Steven Greenwood:
basically yes

Chad Barbry: yes

Steven Greenwood:
GRider went out of his way to find articles of SW nature

Mike Cooper: i'd imagine something similar must've
happened with other subjects, trek for one

Steven Greenwood:
just to get them deleted

Steven Greenwood:
i wouldnt know about trek

Steven Greenwood:
except that wikipedia has an article on every episode

Chad Barbry: that's
about when I met Riff

Mike Cooper: i've heard that the pokemon article is
fantastically out of proportion to its importance =)

Aidan Hennessy: IIRC,
a similar thing happened to Trek and Doctor Who articles

Steven Greenwood:
lol

Steven Greenwood:
was it the same person or different

Mike Cooper: there's an article for every episode of
every series

Steven Greenwood:
nearly

Mike Cooper: wow

Steven Greenwood:
its getting there

Aidan Hennessy: What
you bring up Cooper is actual a common criticism of wikipedia - Geek related
culture seems to have articles on the most trivial things, but there is no
articles, or very limited ones, on things considered to be of greater academic
importance

Steven Greenwood:
its called pop culture

Aidan Hennessy: This,
most likely, is due to the type of contributer to Wikipedia. )

Steven Greenwood:
not to be picky here

Chad Barbry:
right...it was an effort to make it more encyclopedic

Mike Cooper: i have heard that, but i have to say,
i've used it for a whole number or non-geek-oriented subjects and i've never
found it lacking

Mike Cooper: usually there's more than i have time to
read, no matter what the topic

Chad Barbry:
definitely not...it's a great resource that I continue to use (except for Star
Wars info)

Mike Cooper: so moving on, chad and steven, how did
you guys begin working together?

Steven Greenwood:
yea, but it really depends on the contributor, there are alot of intelligent
people on wikipedia doing other subjects, SW however

Steven Greenwood:
well i didnt like what was happening with the purge, and i noticed most
characters were getting merged into this ghastly lists

Steven Greenwood:
these

Chad Barbry: Seems
like we met on a talk page, and he told me about the purge going on

Steven Greenwood:
and i went around and met Chad on the Talk Star Wars page

Steven Greenwood:
an anon first submitted the idea for a separate wiki

Steven Greenwood: around
August, which was already there in text

Chad Barbry: we talked
about it a while, and I saw both sides of the argument

Steven Greenwood:
and then came up with names

Chad Barbry: hehe

Steven Greenwood:
i tryed to come up with something similar, chad hit it on the head

Steven Greenwood:
i gave wicketpedia

Mike Cooper: i have to say, though...even if this
GRider fellow had it in for you, in the long run, it was probably for the best
what happened. both for wikipedia, and us SW geeks

Steven Greenwood:
yea

Chad Barbry: yeah,
probably so

Steven Greenwood:
but imagine if my name went through

Steven Greenwood:
thankfully Chad came up with Wookieepedia

Aidan Hennessy:
Definately...here we can have articles that say Reytha was a planet and no one
can stop us! )

Steven Greenwood:
mhhahaha

Mike Cooper: heheh

Chad Barbry: lol

Mike Cooper: and boy do we

Steven Greenwood:
thanks to JustinGann for those

Mike Cooper: what exactly did you have to do to set
up the site? all i know is that angela from wikicities helped a lot

Steven Greenwood:
aka SenatorClighal from TFN

Steven Greenwood:
Chad did more of this than I

Chad Barbry: it seemed
to me, though that Wookieepedia should be linked to Wikipedia...no need to
duplicate effort

Steven Greenwood:
I originally thought we could transwiki, we were wrong )

Mike Cooper: only for items worthy of remaining on
wikipedia, you mean like luke

Chad Barbry: so I
submitted the idea to the Wikpedia board of creating a sister site

Chad Barbry: right

Steven Greenwood:
and more information would be elsewhere on wookiee

Chad Barbry: major
articles would remain in Wikipedia

Chad Barbry: exactly
riff

Steven Greenwood:
at the time we still called it the Star Wars Wiki

Chad Barbry: so I
submitted it and kinda forgot about it

Steven Greenwood:
Wookieepedia was not official yet

Mike Cooper: the name came from Chad, correct? i
think it's fairly self-explanatory beyond that =)

Chad Barbry: about 4
weeks later I think, I heard back from Angela telling me the decision of the
Wikipedia board

Steven Greenwood:
yea he came up with Wookieepedia

Mike Cooper: it took a month

Chad Barbry: seems
like it...I'm not sure how often they meet

Mike Cooper: was this before wikicities existed

Steven Greenwood:
we're not sure how involved Jimbo Wales was, however he did mention us on
C-SPAN

Steven Greenwood:
this was after they were created

Steven Greenwood:
Jimbo by the way is the founder of Wikipedia

Steven Greenwood:
and Wikicities

Mike Cooper: correct

Aidan Hennessy: and
Wikicities.

Chad Barbry: no, I
don't think so...Angela explained that there was a for-profit site that Jim
Wales had started that would fit this better than a sister site

Mike Cooper: how long after you got the approval was
the CSPAN mention i assume it was too early for him to have mentioned it
because of its size?

Steven Greenwood:
September 26

Chad Barbry: so since
this was the recommendation of the council, that's what I did...taking it as
the final word

Steven Greenwood: that
was roughly 6 months after founding

Mike Cooper: ah

Chad Barbry: I talked
to Angela about how I thought it should be linked to Wikipedia

Mike Cooper: so we were already pretty big by then

Steven Greenwood:
we were becoming popular around that time

Chad Barbry: so she
worked with Wikipedia and they setup cross-site links

Steven Greenwood:
TFN was just starting to notice us

Aidan Hennessy: A lot
of the early work was directly copying Wikipedia articles over here.

Aidan Hennessy: And
decoupling those lists...

Mike Cooper: beyond approval, what was the first
actual step? did they create some kind of blank template for you

Steven Greenwood:
yea thats how we grew in the beginning

Chad Barbry: you could
link to WikiCities with a [[w:cstarwars:Luke Skywalker]]

Chad Barbry: but that
doesn't work any more on Wikipedia...it does on WikiCities, tho )

Steven Greenwood:
and then we wookified the articles by removing Luke was a character in Star
Wars stuff

Steven Greenwood:
to make them In-universe format

Steven Greenwood:
in addition we decided all articles should be in past tense since this happened
a long long time ago....

Aidan Hennessy: Yes,
the decision to make it in universe was the first style decision.

Chad Barbry: Cooper
not sure what you mean by blank template

Steven Greenwood:
with the exception of out of universe (OOU) articles, which were in present
tense

Mike Cooper: i dunno, like a completely empty site

Mike Cooper: i guess

Mike Cooper: whatever a wiki looks like with zero
content =)

Chad Barbry: yea...totally
empty

Steven Greenwood:
yea it was empty

Chad Barbry: I think
there's a default blank page, but nothing else

Mike Cooper: and aidan, when did you show up, and in
what capacity?

Chad Barbry: so we
went to work copying articles under the GFD license

Aidan Hennessy:
Basically, riff contacted me as one of the regular contributers to SW article
on wikipedia during the Purge.

Steven Greenwood:
GDFL

Aidan Hennessy: This
was very, very early on in the wookieepedia's development.

Steven Greenwood:
yea i was in a mode of recruitment

Aidan Hennessy: So I
was one of the first members - doing a lot of the early work like bringing
across wikipedia articles and the rest.

Chad Barbry: riff did
almost all the recruitment

Chad Barbry: he was
hooked in with all the communities

Steven Greenwood:
others who were instrumental in the beginning were Aidje, SparqMan,
Shadowtrooper, and Imperialles

Steven Greenwood:
all but one are admins now

Mike Cooper: they all started out at wikipedia

Steven Greenwood:
ill have to look back at that

Chad Barbry: I think
most were from TFN

Chad Barbry:
TheForce.Net

Chad Barbry: lol

Chad Barbry: anyone
heard of that site

Mike Cooper: i don't think you have to worry about a
translation problem there =)

Steven Greenwood:
i also have a large SW group on Myspace with a large link to Wookieepedia,
which helped

Steven Greenwood:
currently it stands at 25000 members, though i cant guarantee all of them are
active or even real

Mike Cooper: damn

Mike Cooper: that's not a bad idea

Mike Cooper: people love that myspace

Aidan Hennessy: Heh

Steven Greenwood:
its horrid

Steven Greenwood:
40 million strong and they cant keep it fixed now

Steven Greenwood:
but i joined that back in the dark ages, 2003

Steven Greenwood:
actually no, early 2004

Mike Cooper: so what kind of expectations did you
guys have right off the bat? were you surprised when it started taking off?

Chad Barbry: yeah, I
was

Aidan Hennessy: As
was I.

Aidan Hennessy: I
thought....well, this might be fun for a while, until everyone loses
interest....

Steven Greenwood:
well i figured there were many rabid fans that would help out, more good than
bad

Chad Barbry: I had
hopes, tho, because originally I intended that unofficial link to Wikipedia to
be a stronger hold that it was

Steven Greenwood:
star wars will never die, and with two new tv shows coming up, dont expect it
to soon

Mike Cooper: the trick is that there's a greater
influx than...outflux

Steven Greenwood:
there was the big one over whether or not to merge or split Palpatine and Darth
Sidious

Aidan Hennessy:
Otherwise known as the Gret Question Mark Conflict

Steven Greenwood:
and a smaller one for AnakinVader

Steven Greenwood:
lol @ Quentin

Aidan Hennessy: I
think the flaming went for three whole archived discussion pages...

Chad Barbry: yeah, I
think it was PalpatineSidious split

Mike Cooper: well super star destroyers can be
expected to stir up trouble, but things like palpatinesidious are surprising

Aidan Hennessy: I
eventually remember the angry heading THIS VOTE IS A JOKE AND WOOKIEEPEDIA IS
IN DANGER OF BECOMING A FANON ENCYCLOPEDIA!!!1111

Steven Greenwood:
explains why hes the largest

Mike Cooper: was it all just trivial things like
article location, or were there content issues of that magnitude as well

Aidan Hennessy: In
case you don't know, the dispute was mainly over Palpatine's birthdate...

Steven Greenwood:
fanboys can be fun sometimes, but mostly theyre out of control

Mike Cooper: based on mcdiarmid's age?

Steven Greenwood:
yea extrapolation

Aidan Hennessy: The
first TFNer to be banned was Darth NukeMane and that was mainly over his
insistence on certain aspects of the Mandalorian-related articles.

Steven Greenwood:
he still hates me

Mike Cooper: ah, darth nuke

Mike Cooper: he had to get mentioned

Aidan Hennessy: )

Chad Barbry: well,
we've changed things over time, but we borrowed alot of the design of the site
from Wikipedia...as far as how to organize the site

Mike Cooper: what happened with him? POV problems?

Steven Greenwood:
its been a while since that

Aidan Hennessy: I
think if you read the discussion page of Fenn Shysa there's probably something
there about what happened...I don't really remember.

Steven Greenwood:
so many to deal with ive forgotten

Chad Barbry: was
wondering how we'd get Darth Nuke in )

Aidan Hennessy: The
two TFNers banned have mainly been over attitude rather than the quality of
their contribution....

Steven Greenwood:
lol

Mike Cooper: ah, so you did read the old ones =)

Steven Greenwood:
yea Rule Number one, don't get smart with us P

Chad Barbry: yeah

Mike Cooper: the other being conservativesoldier,
correct?

Steven Greenwood:
shall i bring up Wattamb

Mike Cooper: heheh

Aidan Hennessy:
Yes....

Mike Cooper: him i remember

Steven Greenwood:
or his counterpart of a different name

Aidan Hennessy: I
think he was just very young....

Chad Barbry: sighs

Steven Greenwood:
KFanII

Chad Barbry: oh, man

Aidan Hennessy: and
had a fixation on including blow-by-blow deaths of the Separatist leadership.

Chad Barbry: dredging
up old, bad memories

Steven Greenwood:
too detailed

Aidan Hennessy:
KFanII was interesting...he had a really strange view of canon...

Steven Greenwood:
you can see KFan's rant in an email on my user page for display

Steven Greenwood:
he claimed he would make his own wiki and outdo us, right...

Mike Cooper: i know one person who had a big impact
on my introduction to the site was jack nebulax

Aidan Hennessy: He
threatened everyone when we put Palpy's page at Palpatine rather than Darth
Sidious

Steven Greenwood:
oh neb

Aidan Hennessy:
Ah...Jacky boy. )

Chad Barbry: heh...good
ol' Jack!

Mike Cooper: i wanted to put up a fan art image for
the yuuzhan vong war, and he smacked me down as only he can =)

Chad Barbry: he's
quite opinionated!

Steven Greenwood:
SOCL has been telling me how much Neb annoys him lately

Aidan Hennessy:
Yes....he certainly doesn't mince his words. )

Mike Cooper: it was all of two seconds later, as
well...i remember thinking “man, i'm never gonna get any edits in on this
thing!”

Steven Greenwood: btw,
SOCL is interesting in that he lives here in town and I didnt even know who he
was

Chad Barbry: cool

Aidan Hennessy: And
of course, you'll notice we managed to get the endless McEwok vs. Saxtonites
war to spill over here, as well....

Steven Greenwood:
he runs the SW group for my campus on Facebook now

Chad Barbry: it's
great to see how many people from all over the world contrib to the site!

Steven Greenwood:
but is trying to return to wookiee

Mike Cooper: it seems like saxton-related stuff is
all ewok comes here for these days

Steven Greenwood:
yea the McEwok battles

Steven Greenwood:
and theres plenty more where they came from

Mike Cooper: let's move on...looking back, how would you
grade the site's first year anything you wish had been handled differently?

Steven Greenwood:
and im sure more to come in the future

Chad Barbry: I can't
believe we're at 25,000 articles in just a year

Steven Greenwood:
well i wish i had a better wookiee relation with sparqman, we've bumped heads
quite a bit

Aidan Hennessy: I
would have liked to get firm groundrules down a bit earlier. We had a very
stubby manual of style and no real consensus on a lot of issues, and it kind of
caught us with our pants down

Steven Greenwood:
yea it was always a work in progress

Mike Cooper: like where

Aidan Hennessy: For
example, we're only know working out a proper consensus on article names....

Steven Greenwood:
now

Chad Barbry: yeah, we
still have some work to do in that area...even after a year

Mike Cooper: you call that working it out? =p

Aidan Hennessy: Good
point. )

Chad Barbry:
heh...nobody said concensus is easy

Steven Greenwood:
ive been out of the loop recently due to classes but i try to get involved when
i can

Chad Barbry: yeah, I'm
married and have kids, so I can't contrib as much as most the regulars

Mike Cooper: how does the site define consensus, anyway?
a lot of the current debates have been going for a bit now

Chad Barbry: I try to
focus on the admin side of things...

Mike Cooper: seems like it's better to form a policy
and anger a couple people than leave it in debate forever

Steven Greenwood:
maintenance is the biggest problem, noone can end every vote at a given time
seeing how large we've gotten

Mike Cooper: we need a new chancellor...a strong
chancellor!

Chad Barbry: lol

Aidan Hennessy: I
love democracy....

Steven Greenwood: as
most of us also like to fix other things like spelling and categories and
grammar and add stuff, etc

Mike Cooper: where's panaka when you need him

Steven Greenwood:
...the power you give me... ahem where were we?

Mike Cooper: i actually spent an hour or two early on
working my way through the misspellings list...boy was that stupid

Chad Barbry:
personally, I pay attention to who's voting what

Steven Greenwood:
Aidje took that up also

Steven Greenwood:
which lead us to making the admins pages for those who were assigned certain
tasks

Aidan Hennessy: Yes.

Chad Barbry: heh..I
worked on misspellings, too

Aidan Hennessy: Now
there seems to be some sort of guide.

Steven Greenwood:
i currently look over uncategorized categories and pages and new pages, though
while avoiding grievous spoilers, i had to hold off a bit

Chad Barbry: ...and
wish we still had that feature, but the new version of MediaWiki doesn't have
it

Mike Cooper: why'd we lose the spelling list, anyway?

Mike Cooper: did we have a choice?

Steven Greenwood:
yea why did they can it, too hard on the system?

Mike Cooper: ah, nm

Chad Barbry: no,
MediaWiki is the software that runs the site

Aidan Hennessy: Not
sure.

Aidan Hennessy: Not a
fan of the new search, either

Chad Barbry: when the
site was upgraded to 1.5, we lost it because it was no longer maintained code
in the MediaWiki project

Steven Greenwood:
a hint for searching, try typing a slash after the word, that will pull
up all instances of that

Chad Barbry:
thanks...didn't know that Riff

Steven Greenwood:
at least you could do that with version 1 like Wookiee and find all instances
of Wookiee

Steven Greenwood:
sorry i didnt notify you earlier

Mike Cooper: speaking of which, i should mention that
we're starting to see bots (automatic users who make lots of minor
preprogrammed edits) play a role now...how do you guys feel about that do you
think there might be a point when bots will take care of 100% of the minor
stuff, and users can just focus on articles and sources?

Steven Greenwood:
ah Artoo

Chad Barbry: I like
the concept of bots, but there's only so much they can do

Steven Greenwood:
automated socities are fun, but humans have to intervene

Steven Greenwood:
societies

Steven Greenwood: it
would help clean stuff up that is monotonous though

Chad Barbry: they can
do things like detect if there's not Sources section and if there isn't add the
{{sources}} template

Steven Greenwood:
thanks to sikon for programming Artoo

Aidan Hennessy: The
bots are certainly useful for the really tedious, repetitive stuff

Chad Barbry: yep

Mike Cooper: right, chad - if they can do that,
there's all kinds of stuff that should theoretically be possible

Aidan Hennessy:
Artoo's up for Wookieepedian of the month, too. ;) Whatta guy...

Steven Greenwood:
it will also change them to dated sources templates

Steven Greenwood:
idk about that Quent

Chad Barbry: but you
do have to be careful when programming them because they can drag the system if
they're not programmed right (from what I understand)

Chad Barbry: QG
lol...is he really...haven't seen that

Steven Greenwood:
seems he only goes as fast as our fastest humans

Chad Barbry: yep, some
of those guys are all over it!

Steven Greenwood:
omg, Artoo really is up for WOTM

Aidan Hennessy:
Whoops )

Mike Cooper: what i think would be nice is if there
could be one that makes stub articles for redlinks...even if they're just
“Teevan was a planet” =)

Steven Greenwood:
LtNOWIS uses CUSWE to find copyvios of which there are plenty

Aidan Hennessy:
Unless you own every book on Star Wars ever, CUSWE is still useful... ;)

Chad Barbry: I use
CUSWE to help fill in when I don't know the sources for an article

Steven Greenwood:
are you sure CUSWE is that accurate?

Aidan Hennessy: It's
better than no sources at all.

Steven Greenwood:
right

Mike Cooper: steven, i've been using it for around 6
years, and i've never seen an error

Steven Greenwood:
yes sir

Chad Barbry: yes, we
need to work on the copyvio's...they are way too many, and we're not correcting
them enough

Aidan Hennessy:
Exactly.

Aidan Hennessy:
That's part of the consolidation work that needs to be done.

Steven Greenwood:
shall we permanently assign LT to work on that

Chad Barbry: we might
identify them, but we've got to work on correcting them

Mike Cooper: the articles aren't always poetry, but
vitas is a fact machine

Steven Greenwood:
he's been quite the copyvio sniffer

Chad Barbry: yes,
Vitas does a great job

Steven Greenwood:
yea, but couldnt he at least write in full sentences

Aidan Hennessy:
Exactly Cooper, Vitas's stuff has been invaluable to us. So he deserves kudos.

Steven Greenwood:
then again i guess thats how we know its a copyvio

Mike Cooper: heh

Chad Barbry: lol

Steven Greenwood:
but i agree, Vitas is just as helpful, he's our predecessor

Mike Cooper: i'm usually the first person to make a
big deal about grammar, but i'm inclined to give a guy a pass when he's done 50k
articles essntially on his own =)

Steven Greenwood:
right

Chad Barbry: no doubt

Aidan Hennessy:
Exactly....that's why I never picked on JustinGann... ;)

Mike Cooper: lol

Chad Barbry: I
wondered...is it really all on his own?

Mike Cooper: hey, teevan was a planet is a
gramamtically correct sentence =p

Steven Greenwood:
yea, i was too harsh to correct him on his 10000 edits

Mike Cooper: he cites people as having helped, but
it's unclear if they’re writing articles and he's just pasting them in, or if
they're only supplying the info

Chad Barbry: I could
hardly believe that when I first heard that...that's just a machine!

Chad Barbry: work it,
man!

Steven Greenwood:
now another guy just as devoted, though outside the wiki realm is Carty

Mike Cooper: heck yeah

Steven Greenwood:
a personal idol of mine

Mike Cooper: carty being cartographer, webmaster of
nav-computer.com

Steven Greenwood:
right

Steven Greenwood:
anyone who creates a galactic map that complex and detailed is a god

Steven Greenwood: ok
maybe thats a bit far but hes quite good at what he does

Mike Cooper: i'm really hoping we end up using the
map on the wiki

Chad Barbry: yeah,
it's cool how people get their own niches they contrib to

Aidan Hennessy: Yeah

Mike Cooper: just imagine...little zoomed-in sections
for each sector article, and so on

Steven Greenwood:
i’m all for it and he supports us, even giving us permission to use them

Chad Barbry: like
Google Earth!

Steven Greenwood:
as long as we maintain to give him full credit for them

Steven Greenwood:
whoa

Chad Barbry: that's
what we need )

Steven Greenwood:
i’m addicted to Google Earth, don’t even go there D

Chad Barbry: that'll
be year three D

Steven Greenwood:
lol

Aidan Hennessy:
Sounds like a lot of work for the poor boy

Mike Cooper: google earth freaking rules

Steven Greenwood:
<n> google earth rocks <n>

Mike Cooper: i have a 6-foot long satellite photo of
manhattan hanging in my room that i put together manually from a site like
google

Chad Barbry: is he
involved any with Wookieepedia that you know of

Chad Barbry: cool

Steven Greenwood:
carty

Mike Cooper: haven't seen him around

Chad Barbry: yeah

Mike Cooper: gotta respect him for sticking to the
site though

Steven Greenwood:
only to support us but doesn’t contribute if thats what you mean

Chad Barbry: yeah,
that's what I meant

Steven Greenwood:
Justin was the main contact however and he's since disappeared

Steven Greenwood:
we should look through the forums at TFN

Mike Cooper: he's still around as cilghal, i believe

Steven Greenwood:
yea thats his name there

Steven Greenwood:
to which i believed he was a woman at first

Steven Greenwood:
wrongo

Mike Cooper: we all did

Mike Cooper: his fault

Steven Greenwood:
lol

Aidan Hennessy:
Hahah....

Chad Barbry: :)

Steven Greenwood:
but its his second favorite character and ackbar was taken already

Steven Greenwood:
btw, Cooper, a little off subject but I have panoramic collages of the martian
landscape by the rovers, longest being about 6 feet, hows that for cool?

Mike Cooper: i guess we're basically done...any final
thoughts?

Steven Greenwood:
vote for me

Mike Cooper: no

Steven Greenwood:
j/k

Chad Barbry: thanks
for doing this

Mike Cooper: thanks for participating

Steven Greenwood:
yea thanks alot Coop

Aidan Hennessy: If we
could only harness the power of the Palpatine article to the rest of the
wiki...

Chad Barbry: lol

Steven Greenwood:
hah

Steven Greenwood:
Unlimited Power

Mike Cooper: we should do another one with bob vitas
sometime...he was one of the first roundtable participants

Chad Barbry: I was
impressed how quickly the Tonnika sisters article happened )

Aidan Hennessy:
POWER!!!! Unlliiiimited power!

Chad Barbry: yeah,
that'd be cool

Steven Greenwood:
that would be interesting to say the least

Mike Cooper: i should try that trick again...just
make a news post saying hey, you! make an article about _______!

Chad Barbry:
lol...worked, didn't it

Steven Greenwood:
and it might happen

Chad Barbry: well,
thanks guys

Steven Greenwood:
same here

Mike Cooper: i guess i'll just close by saying thanks
again, and congratulations on lasting a year...same time in '07?

Steven Greenwood:
i guess so

Chad Barbry: sure
thing

Aidan Hennessy: Yep.

In closing, I apologize again to those of you who don't know what we're talking about. If there's another Roundtable after this one, and things are looking up in that regard, I promise it'll be more accessible.