What must we do?What will be the outcome of the Russian-Ukrainian conflict?There is a lot of demagogy posted in this thread but it is clear that many posters are ignorant and illiterate.

A nuclear war between the U.S. and Russia might be the result because the Ukrainian government is a Jewish junta put in power by other Zionist Jews here in the U.S. At least, that is what the Zionists want, white Americans and Russians to kill each other off so the Jews can rule unchallenged. For that matter, when Slavs kill each other, the Jews win. Ukraine is just another disposable country to them, does anyone really think the Zionists give a damn about Ukrainians? They want them driven out of the land and exterminated too so they can grab the land for themselves. For the record, I have Ukrainian and Russian ancestry, and from what I can see there is nothing in it for white Americans to be involved in this conflict, let alone the centuries long struggle for Ukrainian independence. A lot of death and suffering at best, annihilation at worst will be the result if the U.S. challenges Russia head on. If I had to choose sides in this war, it would be against the Zionist junta. That is clearly what a lot of Ukrainians are doing, because in the words of one this is a war between fascists and normal people. Why else would they be going over to the side of the ethnic Russians in this horrible war whose purpose is ethnic cleansing? Like it or not, Ukraine and Russia are going to have to co-exist and respect each other's languages, cultures and traditions. Russians would not be the people they are today without Ukraine. I am grateful that I am not forced to turn weapons on either Ukrainians or Russians. That would be declaring war on my own family.

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"When governments abandon gold backed currency, they are either about to bribe you or get you killed," Stefan Molyneaux"Why do you boast, you sons of a destitute Ukraine? That you walk well in a yoke, even better than your fathers did?"Taras Shevshenko, Ukrainian poet and nationalist 1814-1861 A.D."The villainy you teach me I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction."Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice

The first thing that comes to my mind is the Kremlin's desire to create an image of terrorist danger from Ukraine, as they used it with Caucasus in 1990-2000s. This allows to justify for the society any policy both inside and outside and to maintain high ratings of Putin personally. Paradoxically, but after all those officially chechen terrorist attacks, that may be normally considered as inefficiency and failure of intelligence agencies, Putin's ratings only increased.

If nobody actually wanted to blow up Lenin, Putin's authorities had to invent these "terrorists". As if today they are gonna blust Lenin monuments in Crimea, tomorrow they will do it in Russia. I'm not surprised if mysterious explosions of houses appear again in Russia cities, and demonic "Right Sector" will be blamed for this, as it happened with Chechnya in 1999.

In case of imprisoned Savchenko, she seems only a hostage and an additional argument for the negotiations.

I've doubts about such motivations, because, why is it done in such a weird way? The last time they wanted an "image of terrorist danger", it was done 10 times more seriously (Moscow apartment bombings come to mind). What can this Sencov case convince anyone of? Do you know real people who would suddenly start hating Ukrainians because of something like that?

If we assume this motivation that Sencov case is for what you say it may be for ("terrorist image"), maybe then we may also need to assume that people "inside the system" might have got the order but are "sabotaging it", i.e. obeying formally while doing it in a way that is counter-productive. Can't say it's a totally impossible explanation, such things do happen, but it's still strange - the cases are too public. Everyone knows about them, so it's not like the people who "ordered" wouldn't know of (and, therefore, approve or "don't care about" ?!) the way it's being implemented in practice.

Some people on this forum are saying Ukraine is now under control of zionists. I don't believe this is the case. Right now, russia IS under zionist control. putin himself is jewish. His father was a talmudic scholar. putin wants to reinstate the ussr. Ukraine is slowing this down. There needs to be opposition. Ukraine is Nationalist and remembers what communism has done to their country. They are tearing down lenin statues. This is a good sign. Soon, Ukraine might just break totally free of anything jooish if they have not already.

Some people on this forum are saying Ukraine is now under control of zionists. I don't believe this is the case. Right now, russia IS under zionist control. putin himself is jewish. His father was a talmudic scholar. putin wants to reinstate the ussr. Ukraine is slowing this down. There needs to be opposition. Ukraine is Nationalist and remembers what communism has done to their country. They are tearing down lenin statues. This is a good sign. Soon, Ukraine might just break totally free of anything jooish if they have not already.

Poroshenko -waltzman is a half jew for sure and he is president. Recently Ukraine dropped a law that allowed hiv positive foreigners to enter the country to be more aligned with the west

It's actually only a slight bit more "sure" than Putin's own Jewishness (in which I don't believe so far). Tracing back proofs, seems to come down to one single "source" : Russia 1 TV (Ukrainian president Poroshenko - Jew or not. Evidence and discussion.). Which, if you ask me, is not at all credible. I would say straight away it's a complete hoax just like Putin's "Jewishness" -- a propaganda hoax, made in the time of absolute torrent on Russian TV of anything and everything that can be thrown at the new Ukraine government; and thus was possibly an attempt to rile up Ukrainians back in the election times, assuming that unpopularity of Jews in Ukraine may cause some big uproar about Poroshenko (if so, ultimately this tactic by Russia failed and Poroshenko got elected anyway)... but, unlike Putin, Poroshenko have a bit of ... how to say it ... "jewy" appearance. Curly hair and face complexion. It's not a proof of anything either, as some Armenians and other occasionally have similar looks AFAIK (and Poroshenko is allegedly from Moldova -- perhaps it exists there as well), but, at least, it's the "slight bit more" I refer to. OTOH, Putin looks absolutely "average guy" for his country. But I am not expert. Some online "experts", who, as we know, are in abundance on forums, told me Putin "looks Jewish". Go figure .

BTW as a hardcore anti-putinist, I detest arguments that Putin is "son of a Rabbi" etc. It's bad argument -- lacks evidence, is probably nothing but poor quality online BS, and serves as a strawman / distracts from all the legit evidence of Putin's anti-whitism and other crimes (that make him a race traitor and enemy of Whites worse than G.W.Bush -- and so what if neither of the two is Jewish son of a Rabbi).

Mate, communism and the USSR created Ukraine. If it wasn't for them, I doubt Ukraine would have ever existed.

Ukraine existed as the Kievan Rus when the Byzantine Empire was the dominant power in the region and Kiev itself was around for at least 1,500 years. Ukraine was however the mother of Russia and not the other way around. It was not a creation of the Soviets and Communism, but its people suffered horrific hardships and loss of life at the hands of both, which are responsible for the mess Ukraine is today. I have to wonder if you're really Serbian or not.

Ukraine existed as the Kievan Rus when the Byzantine Empire was the dominant power in the region and Kiev itself was around for at least 1,500 years. Ukraine was however the mother of Russia and not the other way around. It was not a creation of the Soviets and Communism, but its people suffered horrific hardships and loss of life at the hands of both, which are responsible for the mess Ukraine is today. I have to wonder if you're really Serbian or not.

We can say that Kievan Rus was mother of both Russia and latter Ukraine.

After all , nobody can deny that it were exactly the soviet communists who expanded ukrainian borders.

Not to mention a Communistic gift to ukraine in the shape of Crimea , half a century ago.

It's actually only a slight bit more "sure" than Putin's own Jewishness (in which I don't believe so far). Tracing back proofs, seems to come down to one single "source" : Russia 1 TV (Ukrainian president Poroshenko - Jew or not. Evidence and discussion.). Which, if you ask me, is not at all credible. I would say straight away it's a complete hoax just like Putin's "Jewishness" -- a propaganda hoax, made in the time of absolute torrent on Russian TV of anything and everything that can be thrown at the new Ukraine government; and thus was possibly an attempt to rile up Ukrainians back in the election times, assuming that unpopularity of Jews in Ukraine may cause some big uproar about Poroshenko (if so, ultimately this tactic by Russia failed and Poroshenko got elected anyway)... but, unlike Putin, Poroshenko have a bit of ... how to say it ... "jewy" appearance. Curly hair and face complexion. It's not a proof of anything either, as some Armenians and other occasionally have similar looks AFAIK (and Poroshenko is allegedly from Moldova -- perhaps it exists there as well), but, at least, it's the "slight bit more" I refer to. OTOH, Putin looks absolutely "average guy" for his country. But I am not expert. Some online "experts", who, as we know, are in abundance on forums, told me Putin "looks Jewish". Go figure .

BTW as a hardcore anti-putinist, I detest arguments that Putin is "son of a Rabbi" etc. It's bad argument -- lacks evidence, is probably nothing but poor quality online BS, and serves as a strawman / distracts from all the legit evidence of Putin's anti-whitism and other crimes (that make him a race traitor and enemy of Whites worse than G.W.Bush -- and so what if neither of the two is Jewish son of a Rabbi).