jon jones is an incredibly gifted athlete with solid skills, but everyone can be beat. if there were better bjj practitioners in the LHW division jones would be f**ked. he leaves his arms all over the place when hes on top and eventually sumones gonna get his back when he throws 1 of those sloppy spinning back fists/elbows. i think he can easily defend his belt a few times but to act like hes so dominant is a joke.

now your downplaying shogun who ran through a whose who of guys in pride including rampage, nog and overeem.

a guy who beat machida who everyone was claiming is unbeatable. And you mustve missed the first f!ght because shogun won that f!ght as well. So your lucky punch arguement is retarded as f**k. Shogun ran through him in the rematch, by your logic you can call any punch luck. It was a first rd ko .

god i hate you casuals.

In PRIDE exactly, he is past his f**king prime, MIRKO CRO COP also demolished whose of who and we can see what the f**k happened to him tonight.

Shogun is not a real test for Bones, somebody like Phil Davis is a test.

Thanks... was waiting for that gif... didn't see him tap live... but can't blame him... he was taking a hell of a beating with no chance of success... luckily the f!ght was stopped before he tapped so it's a TKO instead of a tap to strikes...

Guys, cmon, Phil Davis is no one yet. He doesn't have the talent and justified hype Jones did... All Davis has is wrestling, his striking is s**t, and everything else is untested... Jones would run through him... Rashad is the better version of Phil Davis, same wrestling, better striking... Rashad is his biggest threat.

jon jones is an incredibly gifted athlete with solid skills, but everyone can be beat. if there were better bjj practitioners in the LHW division jones would be f**ked. he leaves his arms all over the place when hes on top and eventually sumones gonna get his back when he throws 1 of those sloppy spinning back fists/elbows. i think he can easily defend his belt a few times but to act like hes so dominant is a joke.

lol better BJJ practitioners? Shogun is a BEAST on the ground. And while he doesn't submit many people, he shown an impeccable craftiness on the ground. Shogun has one of the best guard games in MMA...

Jon Jones' size and leverage make it difficult for anyone to take advantage of where he places his arms. He's also pretty good defensively when people try to take advantage of it... to act like he's so dominant isn't a joke... Because he is. He outwrestles wrestlers, taking them down with ease, and stuffing any takedown attempts they might have. He can finish on the ground, and every time we see him f!ght he gets craftier with his moves, and smarter with his strikes. That spinning back elbow up against the cage was a thing of beauty tonight...

lol better BJJ practitioners? Shogun is a BEAST on the ground. And while he doesn't submit many people, he shown an impeccable craftiness on the ground. Shogun has one of the best guard games in MMA...

Jon Jones' size and leverage make it difficult for anyone to take advantage of where he places his arms. He's also pretty good defensively when people try to take advantage of it... to act like he's so dominant isn't a joke... Because he is. He outwrestles wrestlers, taking them down with ease, and stuffing any takedown attempts they might have. He can finish on the ground, and every time we see him f!ght he gets craftier with his moves, and smarter with his strikes. That spinning back elbow up against the cage was a thing of beauty tonight...

no where did i say shogun wasnt great at bjj. that was the only way i thought he had a chance tonight. just because bones beats 1 guy with good bjj doesnt mean he beats em all. like i said hes a great f!ghter and he'll defend his title. but its been said 298984324 times in this thread already that hes "unbeatable"....thats a joke.