International Shark Attack File #2

The International Shark Attack File #1 and the International Shark Attack File #2 what are the differences?

One difference is in the ISAF #1 Rodney Fox was attacked by a shark and in the ISAF #2 Rodney Fox was not attacked by a shark.

So all those so-called shark experts, National Geographic, Discovery Channel all those that repeat the ISAF #2 figures agree that Rodney Fox was not attacked by a shark.

If you think Rodney Fox was attacked by shark then you shouldn’t use or listen to those that say he wasn’t. You see those using the ISAF #2 all the time they call themselves Shark Experts…

12 Comments

Tidus
on February 8, 2014 at 1:25 pm

I have never heard of a ISAF #2. This is also the first I’ve heard anyone try to claim Rodney Fox wasn’t attacked by a shark. What are these people trying to accomplish? Rodney is not the only one they’ve done this with. But it is the most ridiculous of all.

I have never heard of a ISAF #2. This is also the first I’ve heard anyone try to claim Rodney Fox wasn’t attacked by a shark. What are these people trying to accomplish? Rodney is not the only one they’ve done this with. But it is the most ridiculous of all.

I put the #1 and #2 on the ISAF because they changed so much. David Baldridge still rolls his head at what has happened to the ISAF and Perry Gilbert did prior to his death and is probably rolling in his grave at what has happened to the ISAF #1 with Burgess running the ISAF #2. At our SAS file we have 5,500 incidents and we are not funded by universities, guy harvey, museums, tourism officials, the dive industry so the ISAF has to have 6,000 incidents, but they only have 2,229 attacks.
All those stats you hear used are based on those 2229 not the 6000. Rodney got kicked out in 1988. It wasn’t until 2008 that we were able to follow who and what attacks were kicked out.
Now with the time that ocean goers need to know what is happening with shark attacks we can explain just how screwed up our shark experts are. Question them when they start with stats. You will be totally surprised.
We will be bringing other incidents kicked out by the ISAF to your attention as time passes.
Al Brenneka
Shark Attack Survivors

I love your website, it’s the best I’ve ever found. I have the impression Burgess goes through the files looking for any little reason not to call an incident a shark attack. He even goes as far as removing attacks from way back. If he isn’t going to do the job right he need’s to retire and let someone else do it. This is the first I’d hear the Rodney Fox was kicked out. That’s totally ridiculous. On what ground’s was he kicked out?
As far as questioning the ISAF, I don’t bother especially with Burgess. He plays stupid when I’ve emailed him asking specific questions and won’t give me answers. Though usually the assistant will.

I love your website, it’s the best I’ve ever found. I have the impression Burgess goes through the files looking for any little reason not to call an incident a shark attack. He even goes as far as removing attacks from way back. If he isn’t going to do the job right he need’s to retire and let someone else do it. This is the first I’d hear the Rodney Fox was kicked out. That’s totally ridiculous. On what ground’s was he kicked out?
As far as questioning the ISAF, I don’t bother especially with Burgess. He plays stupid when I’ve emailed him asking specific questions and won’t give me answers. Though usually the assistant will.

Thanks Tidus,
Rodney was kicked out when the dive industry paid burgess to eliminate all those involved in spearing fish. Now you don’t have to spear a fish just have a spear gun with you and you are gone. burgess doesn’t answer my emails or phone calls either. burgess knows his stuff is messed up, but the money forces him to do so, it is all the other so called experts repeating his bull that actually do not know he has eliminated such incidents. They need to be made aware of what they are saying.
Al Brenneka

I am not entirely sure that I follow this. So to clarify, is this about “Provoked incidents” vs. “Non-provoked incidents”? Is it that those who have been “kicked out” of the ISAF were allegedly provoking their shark to bite them by some means (ie: spearfishing, grabbing or touching shark, baiting shark, etc.)? Just asking about criteria involved in the decision making here, not taking sides
Question #2 of mine is this, if there are 2 ISAFs , #1 and #2, how are they distinguished from one another. This is the first time I have heard of shark attack files of any type referred to this way. Is ISAF#2 part of Shark Attack Survivors? How does the Global Shark Attack File fit into this puzzle. Is it a third SAF? Sorry to deluge you with questions, but I am curious and confused.

I think Burgess should be chucked into a shark feeding frenzy, hopefully come out with six hundred stitches – like Fox – and then be told he didn’t qualify for the shark attack file as he had provoked the sharks by getting in the way of their food.

Just shows how big dollars from the dive industry can cause a maybe intelligent guy to falsify the figures, as intended!

I put the #1 and #2 on there. There is only one ISAF but #1 was from 1958 to 1988 #2 is 1988 to current. All the criteria used is hard to follow, but Rodney was kicked out after the dive industry wanted no spearfisherman included. Some years there just wasn’t enough money for them to confirm an incident was unprovoked while other years they didn’t have an investigator in certain areas. George does explain why some incidents were not included. The problem is all those repeating his figures leave out the fine print. I don’t think they would use those figures if they knew exactly what they mean. To date only about 37% of the known incidents have been confirmed to be unprovoked. The term worldwide is often used when only a small portion of the world seems to have sharky incidents 90% of all shark attacks happen at English or bilingual locations. Does this mean if you don’t speak English or don’t go a place that has English speaking visitors you have no chance of being involved in a sharky incident?

I have to admit this is the 1st I’ve heard about Rodney no longer being included, and I am dumb founded. By using the spear fishing criteria, you can then elimnate almost any water related activity. In my line of thinking, if the act of spear fishing attracts the sharks, then where does that leave surfers? You could argue they are provoking sharks by causing disturbances and appearing too similar to seals.