Monday Night Open Thread

I remember watching the Flip Play live and thinking “that just saved the season.” The Yankees were down two games-to-none in the best-of-five ALDS but had a slim 1-0 lead in the seventh inning when Terrence Long lined Mike Mussina’s final pitch of the game into the right field corner. Shane Spencer threw to no one in particular but Jeter intercepted the throw and flipped to the plate for the out. It was a play you never expect to see. Mariano Rivera went two innings for the save, the Yankees won both Games Four and Five, and the rest was history. Just remarkable.

Here is your open thread for the night. The Cardinals and Red Sox are playing Game Five of the World Series at 8pm ET on FOX (Adam Wainwright vs. Jon Lester) and you’ve also got Monday Night Football (Seahawks vs. Rams). The Rangers are (finally) playing their home opener as well. Talk about any of those games or anything else right here. Enjoy.

Could someone please explain why Workman, and not Uehara was charged with the loss in game 3 (the obstruction game). Craig, who scored the winning run, reached on a double against Uehara. Molina, who reached off of Workman, was thrown out at the plate prior to the obstruction. Every box score I find gives the loss to Workman.

lee

apparently the logic is that Workman put the potential game-winning run on base, so he’s ultimately the one responsible for the L, even though it wasn’t his runner that scored. doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me — but in cases like this it is a judgement call on the part of the official scorer, there are no set rules.

ropeadope

Yes, I guess the official scorer has the leeway to make such a decision. Very much appreciate the reply.

Mick taylor

No37 year old hitter built like David Ortiz has ever hit the way he is hitting unless he was on steroids. So while arod is being crucified probably baseball’s biggest ped user big needle in poopie proven steroid cheat Ortiz is celebrated and loved. Cannot wait to see selig give Ortiz the world series mvp trophy.

WhittakerWalt

You’re so insane and conspiracy-driven it actually makes me almost want to defend David Ortiz.
That’s quite an achievement.

Steinbrenner’s Ghost

No less than the Boston Globe says he’s on juice

WhittakerWalt

I don’t disagree. I think he’s probably on something, and has been most of his career.
That doesn’t change the fact that Mick Taylor is a whacko.

Steinbrenner’s Ghost

I don’t know about “conspiracies”, but I don’t believe in coincidences.

Manny Ramirez plays 8 years for the Red Sox and never once tested negative. Then only a couple of months after being dealt to the Dodgers he comes up dirty. Then the next year, after only a couple weeks with the Rays he’s caught dirty again.

I think you have to be very naive to think Manny was just “lucky” when he was Boston’s roster.

WhittakerWalt

I think the Sox cheat like motherfuckers. I just don’t see how that makes them different from anyone else, including us.

MannyGeee

In fairness…. I got nothing. No major leaguer in Boston has ever been pinched for PEDs. That seems odd.

Also, I take everything Curt Schilling says with a grain of salt because he’s a fucking whacko as well… but didn’t he say the Red Sox medical staff ‘encouraged’ him to go on PEDs?

It is not conspiracy you jerkoff it is hypocrisy. David Ortiz is a proven cheater from 2003. . Someday dickhead it will come out he was doing some type of undetectable ped in 2013. And dickhead Wally, dumpster his teammate tries to hurt arod while the beloved teammate looks on . I will repeat moron , no 37 year old could hit like Ortiz without juice

WhittakerWalt

U MAD?

Pinkie Pie

Derek Jeter was the major league leader in hits during his age 38 season. I didn’t see anyone calling him out for doing PED’s then (with the exception of that douchebag Skip Bayless).

WhittakerWalt

Ted Williams’s age 37 season:

BA: .345
OBP: .479
SLGL .605
OPS: 1.084
OPS+: 172

mick taylor

only an insane red sux fanwould compare ortiz to ted williams, who by most experts is greatest hitter of all time. also, ortiz will be 38 in 2 weeks . given he was born in dominican republic he may be older. what 38 year old hitter ever hit like he is hitting now, maybe barry bonds. ortiz is hitting like 750 because he is obviously on something that cannot be detected. he was a mediocre player 11 years ago when he was in his prime and that is why twins cut him [.ted williams hit 400 at 27 sweettie ]. he then goes to boston and ortiz becomes a great hitter because he went on peds. this was proven by his 2003 positive test. since then he has been clever enough to do stuff that cannot be detected , jus like the guys caught in bosch scandal . ryan braun did not get caught this time because he tested positive. so the hypocrisy is ryan dumpster trying to hurt arod while hejust loves his big poppy. kitten, wally, enjoy your red sux world seies. enjoy selig handing the mvp trophy to big needle in poopie ortiz while he tries to destroy arod. someday it will come out big poopie was on roids in 2013

WhittakerWalt

“no 37 year old could hit like Ortiz without juice</i?"

You threw down the gauntlet, knucklehead.

WhittakerWalt

Forgot to close my brackets, rats.

WhittakerWalt

Hank Aaron age 37 season:

BA: .327
OBP: .410
SLG: .669
OPS: 1.079
OPS+: 194

I guess I must be a Braves fan, too?

mick taylor

so to make your point that this proven steroid cheat ortiz is clean at almost 38, you compare him to the greatest hitter of all time, williams, and the greatest home run hitter of all time, aaron. you are a f n red sux fanmoron.

MannyGeee

ZOMG… TEH TED WILLIAMZ WAS ON TEH JUIZE!!!!111!!1!

Truther

Keep this bullshit quarantined over at Lohud you dumbass.

WhittakerWalt

I think he and Psycho Trish are dating.

Truther

Wouldn’t doubt it. Those two lunatics are the only ones who could possibly stand each other.

Two complete and utter fools.

Pat D

A clip from SNL’s Celebrity Jeopardy where Ferrell as Alex Trebek said, “For the love of god, shut your mouth!” springs to mind.

Wheels

That was way inside.

WhittakerWalt

Terrible, terrible call.

forensic

Geez, first Holliday, now Carpenter.

What’s with all the Cardinals just sitting in the clubhouse to watch the games, especially the 9th inning of a tie game???

forensic

How can you not love NL baseball??? That Lester AB was a thing of beauty. It’s terrific that pitchers get to do more than just pitch.

WhittakerWalt

LOL

WhittakerWalt

Joe Buck just said that Adam Wainwright has never lost in the postseason.
I’m pretty sure Gm 1 was a postseason game.

forensic

Never lost in the postseason at home.

WhittakerWalt

Oh, I see. He added that after a long pause.
Still a pretty dumb stat, frankly.
But whatever.

Pinkie Pie

Adam Wainwright is a stahting pitchah

Mike B.

Joe Buck is a frigging geek. When I watch games he does I hit the mute button.

Captain Turbo

Knowing Buck he meant he never lost in the postseason in games where he got the win.

WhittakerWalt

That was a hanger.

forensic

And yet again, Matheny’s overly slow hook costs the Cards.

Pat D

So at this rate Boston will won the World Series and still have something about which their precious little ugly bearded heads can whine.

Joy.

WhittakerWalt

Cards are playing scared now. They’re folding up like a cheap card table.

Captain Turbo

Hmmm, do you suppose this card table you mention is for sale?

forensic

Yup, looks like it’s pretty much over already. I think Matheny deserves a good bit of criticism for it too. He changed everything that got them there after Game 1, and especially the one AB on the Ortiz homer.

Captain Turbo

Well, the Cards seem to have lost their balls…

Wheels

That paper airplane was funny.

WhittakerWalt

Man, I really hate Ortiz.

Turk Turkleton

“I wonder what John Farrell is going to do with a loose & warm Uehara waiting in the bullpen”

-Tim McCarver

Baked MCBride

No matter who wins this series, both teams have accomplished a lot more than the Yanks in the past dozen years, and that is something that may continue for a little while longer

Captain Turbo

Or maybe not. YCPB.

Baked MCBride

If the sox win, does that mean these idiots will finally shave their chin pussies?

EndlessJose

Matheny like Leyland last year brought a limpness team to the world series. These hitters are making these overrated pitchers look like Cy Young pitchers.

Another world series where the better team look rusty and no ounce of passion. Hope Beltran enjoyed the world series because this team not goanna win two in Fenway.

Pinkie Pie

Way to let the Red Sox walk all over you after taking the series lead, Cardinals. With this victory and the series now shifting back to Boston, it’s a forgone conclusion that the Sox are going to win it all.

Given how the rest of 2013 turned out, I guess its fitting that in the end the Sox will probably wind up winning it all. Still, though, screw them.

Reuben Sierra’s Chains

Major meltdown over at Lohud tonight by the looks of it. I’m not sure how many of you frequent the comment section over there, but it’s been batshit crazy for a long long time now. Always good for several laughs, but reflects really bad on Yankee fans. Really really bad examples if an outsider is looking in. It is audible laugh out loud funny though.

The Big City of Dreams

Lohud always had somewhat of a hard edge but what’s going on now is insane. You have a poster with multiple accounts harassing the parents of posters. In what world is that ok.

MannyGeee

LoHud, or NoMaas if you happen to be not Caucasian, not a Christian or not straight.

WhittakerWalt

I feel fortunate that I’ve never gone there. Not even one time.

Baked McBride

LoHud is a disaster. Chad Jennings should nuke the whole thing and start over. It’s like The Island of Doctor Moreau meets Michael Keaton’s Dream Team. About two or three people in that hornet’s nest of crazy that could make it in the real world without voices in their heads screaming RedRum. The rest just live their lives out online, “caring” for each other and their childish alliances, like they do in Dungeons and Dragons.

The Big City of Dreams

Yea it’s pretty bad over there. Not sure what Chad can do besides banning the person that is threatening other posters and posting their personal information. A lot of the posters have left and refused to come back.

Baked McBride

There is a > 0% chance that Chad himself IS that poster, trying to napalm the place

nycsportzfan

Anyone hoping the yanks kick the tires around on Scott Kazmir? Hes still under 30, and has seemingly learned to pitch and has really improved his accuracy and BB/K ratio.. Hes been through alot, and along the way, i think he learned how to actually Pitch. Hes also a lefty, and we only got CC as of now. I woulden’t mind seeing if we can get him for the back end of the rotation, maybe even if we sign Maholm.. It’d be a cheaper way to fill the rotation out, and then we could spend are money on Cano, Choo, Reynolds,Ryan, and McCann..