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Far far away from the orgy that consist of clyde, 8's, rady, smokes and rono

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Originally Posted by petescud

Melo needs a coach that will force him to play team ball the entire game...Melo should not be bringing the ball upcourt. He shouldn't have to take the final shot all the time. I like melo, i just wish he played more like LBJ, Durant, George.....Guess we may not ever see this happen. Honestly, i enjoyed our team more before Melo came here. Not to pick solely on Melo, as its a team game, and coach is just as liable

I believe Melo is open to playing that style, with Woodson he kinda just lets players do whatever they want. Melo isn't the only one guilty of this, everyone does it. It's a free lance style of play and personally I'm tired of it.

Felton, Smith, Amare, Barg, Chandler, Shumpert and Melo are all at their best when the ball is moving quickly.

When we sag on defense and slow the ball on offense, we melt as a team.

I believe Melo is open to playing that style, with Woodson he kinda just lets players do whatever they want. Melo isn't the only one guilty of this, everyone does it. It's a free lance style of play and personally I'm tired of it.

Felton, Smith, Amare, Barg, Chandler, Shumpert and Melo are all at their best when the ball is moving quickly.

When we sag on defense and slow the ball on offense, we melt as a team.

Metro come on....." You Believe "
Melo wanted to play like this he would not bring up the ball.
He would not get a argue about a call rather then leave us short on defense.
He would not get a Technical at a crucial point in the game.

There is no doubt Woody uses Melo wrong but then again I guess so did Dantonio and lets not forget Karl's issues with Melo....

Melo is a great individual player but he is not a team player..........

Personally I would love to see Felton sit and Prigioni take 32 minutes a game and let him run the offense and defense.

Melo needs a coach that will force him to play team ball the entire game...Melo should not be bringing the ball upcourt. He shouldn't have to take the final shot all the time. I like melo, i just wish he played more like LBJ, Durant, George.....Guess we may not ever see this happen. Honestly, i enjoyed our team more before Melo came here. Not to pick solely on Melo, as its a team game, and coach is just as liable

Good luck finding who that coach is. Melo has fooled and intoxicated so many with his offensive prowess. He is an ON HIS TERM type of cat and he's not changing after 12yrs in the league. Knicks/We deserve so much better than Dolan and Melo. It's about the how the names on the back of the jersey wear the name on the front of the jersey together. Unfortunately for the most part we have a collection of overrated players on this team, starting with Melo...Persona non Grada. Melo is built for a game of 21 unfortunately that's not how this sport is played.

Well after we were clicking and took the lead, Woodson took out Prigs and put Felton in. That was the beginning of what started our skid. Felton didn't orchestrate the offense properly the rest of the time he was in. You're right, Melo took his signature long contested twos in the forth as well, but the Prigs/Felton swap killed us. Before we took the lead Prigs was running the offense based around the pick and pop with Bargs.. and it was working. Even JR started to settle down and knock down shots for a stretch. Prigs also sparked us with his hustle, forcing a couple turnovers and playing MCR tough and we took back the lead.

I will never understand Woodson's love affair with Felton. He's a terrible defender and not a good playmaker for a PG. When he's in the game I basically wait for him to screw up and I can't relax. Felton is awful.

He got most of those 3s in garbage...the team got the lead while he was on the bench, started the game like 0-5 0-6, got one of the most selfish tech's when the game was still in balance, and was responsible for not communicating with his players on defensive assignments. Played one of the worst 4th qrts you'll see.

Ironic he comes in we're up 90-86 after TimBug and Bargs establish somewhat of a groove he comes in and it becomes a Melo/J.R. chaotic nightmare

I stopped the log at this point because the game was over. It's all here for everyone to see you can't talk your way into any kind of defense case for Melo. Anyone who continues to in games like these should be ashamed of themselves

Well after we were clicking and took the lead, Woodson took out Prigs and put Felton in. That was the beginning of what started our skid. Felton didn't orchestrate the offense properly the rest of the time he was in. You're right, Melo took his signature long contested twos in the forth as well, but the Prigs/Felton swap killed us. Before we took the lead Prigs was running the offense based around the pick and pop with Bargs.. and it was working. Even JR started to settle down and knock down shots for a stretch. Prigs also sparked us with his hustle, forcing a couple turnovers and playing MCR tough and we took back the lead.

I will never understand Woodson's love affair with Felton. He's a terrible defender and not a good playmaker for a PG. When he's in the game I basically wait for him to screw up and I can't relax. Felton is awful.

There is a clear difference between Prigioni and Felton. Its that differemce that has Woody stick with Felton.

Homeboy says everything right, but forget one thing .. The team QUIT on the ISO-Melo system (not puppet Woodson).
Mike Woodson's orders from the Knicks upstairs-Brass is to do whatever our Franchise super-star Carmelo Anthony wants to do. It is not the other way around (thats why all of lastseason "Old-Heads" left).

Melo has not change the performance he gave in Syracuse University (The same ole "jump-shot" move) may work well in the NCAA playoffs, and NBA regular season vs 60% of mediocre teams, but it doesnt work in a NBA playoff series.
Melo's performance lack creativity, decision-making, and the skills to be a team-player that improve or energize his teammates performance on the court. In Melo's 10 yrs in the NBA, its hard to find a teammate Melo gelled with.
Melo's rookie season, he had a 2 yr rehab healthy Marcus Camby (double-double 3 blocks), C-Nene, a young above the rim Birdman, and a 5th season Andre Miller at PG (backup PG-Earl Boykins) to pull off a 43 win season.
Melo had a better all-around team in his rookie season than Lebron, Wade, and Bosh.

What is the ISO-Melo system?
The ISO-Melo system is a one tempo system .. a halfcourt-set system for perimeter shooters.
This system stop teammates from moving without the ball around screens (example Novak).
This were the Nuggets system, now its the Knicks 48 minute system.

Whats wrong with the system other than Nuggets teammates, and Knicks teammates get tired of it:
The first 3 quarters (36 minutes) of each game, Melo receive 30 minutes of playingtime before the 4th quarter.

PG-Chauncey Billups style change that in Denver .. making Melo want out of Denver no matter how high the $$$ the Nuggets organization offered Melo on a Max contract.

Since Melo departure from Denver in 2010-11, the Nuggets had a better winning season than us Knicks each year.

I have had enough of this guy and tonight put me at the end of my rope with him. If anybody didn't see what happened tonight in the 2nd half then you was watching a whole different game.Knicks was still playing awful in the 3rd and Melo went out of the game. It was like watching a completely different team out there.Everybody was toughing the ball,everybody was on the same page and the team had chemistry.During that time the Knicks came back and took the lead. They didn't just take the lead they took control of the game b/c the whole team was on the same page and was playing together. Bargnani was on fire and was scoring at will and so was Hardaway jr,Chandler.Then for some odd reason the coach put in Melo and kept Bargnani on the bench and down went the Knicks just like the Titanic!! The ball movement was gone,defense was gone and the chemistry was gone b/c Melo iso was back and it was brick after brick being shot by melo.There is no way melo should have been out on that court b/c the knicks was playing to good.Bargnani on the other hand should have been in the game and its ashame he didn't get to finish the game b/c he played his butt off.The knicks would have won with him and the others that started that run still out there to finish the game.

As long as Melo is here this what we got to look forward to and I am sick and tired of watching the same ol story over and over.I want Melo gone and I want him gone now!!!!

We're officially down 5 and all the momentum is in Philly's favor wheels officially have come off. Notice Melo hadn't scored a single point yet, J.R. scored a 3pt shot and we called a timeout after this layup........GAME OVER!!!!!!!!!!

I stopped the log at this point because the game was over. It's all here for everyone to see you can't talk your way into any kind of defense case for Melo. Anyone who continues to in games like these should be ashamed of themselves[/QUOTE]

If it quack like a duck, walk like a duck, and look like a duck, then it must be a duck.
Woodson's a puppet, Felton's worst than Duhon, JR's delusional
But Melo got to be traded before the Feb deadline .. I dont want nothing in return.

melo isn't the problem.... just like Z-Bo wasn't the problem. The chickens have come home to roost from the 2010 Melo trade and the Billups amnesty. Those two moves put the knicks back like crazy, because they gutted the team. But the chance to fix it is pretty close.

Knicks need to pay him, get a new coach this offseason, and being trying to woo FA in 2015 (its what in theory they got steve mills for). Its the only smart move available to them at this point, and I'm glad the media isn't talking about it as early as they talk about everything else the knicks are planning.