Jon Henley’s back from covering the French election, which – not entirely by coincidence – is the subject of this week’s podcast.

Despite all the fears that the anti-establishment, nation-first populist wave that brought us Brexit and then Donald Trump would subsequently sweep across Europe, Emmanuel Macron defeated his rival, the far-right, anti-immigration, anti-EU Marine Le Pen, by a big margin on Sunday. The result prompted sighs of relief on the continent because Macron had campaigned on an overtly, even passionately pro-EU platform, whereas Le Pen wanted to pull France out of the euro and maybe even the EU and has predicted the collapse of the bloc.

But what about the reaction in London? Macron, after all, said in his election manifesto that Brexit was a “crime” that would plunge the UK into “servitude”, and he told reporters after visiting Theresa May in February that Brexit “cannot lead to a kind of optimisation of Britain’s relationship with the rest of Europe. I am very determined that there will be no undue advantages.” He has also made no bones about trying to lure financial services firms to Paris as the City becomes less attractive after Brexit.

With Jon to discuss what Macron’s victory will mean for Brexit and the European project is Jennifer Rankin, the Guardian’s Brussels correspondent.