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Jane Elizabeth's brother, Robert Hampton Hinson, married Jane Ellen Thomas and they had Betty Ruth Stimpson who married Herman Griehsbach. So I'm one second cousin twice removed. And, yeah, it took Rootsmagic's Relationship Calculator to come up with that one!

Herman Frederick Griehsbach was born about 1893 and married Betty Ruth Stimpson on 6/16/1931. According to the U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989, he and Betty lived in Charlotte, Mecklenburg County, NC during the 1930's.

That's all the information I've been able to find on Herman Griehsbach. But I will show you what I have on Betty Ruth Stimpson Griehsbach. She was born 10/9/1909 in Mecklenburg County, NC to David Pleasant Stimpson and Ada Lydia Hinson.

1920 U.S. Census of Roberts St., Asheville Ward 4, Buncombe County, North Carolina; Roll: T624_1099; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 0016; FHL microfilm: 1375112, Lines 70-84, "Laura L. Green", Stimpsons were boarding with her.Laura L. Green, Head, F(emale), W(hite), 64 yrs old, Widowed, Married 42 yrs, 4 children with 4 still living, Born in NC, Father born in VA, Mother born in NC, Keeps boarders in boardinghouse, Can read and writeOtis L. Green, Son, M, W, 35 yrs old, 1st marriage, Married 2 yrs, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC, Salesman hardware, Can read and writeAlleen Green (sic), Daughter-in-law, F, W, 25 yrs old, 1st marriage, Married 2 yrs, 1 child with 1 still living, Born in MS, Father born in SC, Mother born in MS, Can read and writeMarion Green, Granddaughter, F, W, 1 yr 3/12 mos old, Born in NC, Father born in NC, Mother born in MSNettie F. Snelson, Servant, F, W, 23 yrs old, Single, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC, Cook in boardinghouse, Can read and writeGeorge R. Murphy, Boarder, M, W, 35 yrs old, 1st marriage, Married 0 yrs, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Boss spinner in cotton mill, Can read and writeJulia R. Murphy, Boarder, F, W, 26 yrs old, 1st marriage, Married 0 yrs, Born in NC, Father born in NC, Mother born in TN, Can read and writeDavid P. Stimpson, Boarder, M, W, 27 yrs old (DOB 1883), 1st marriage, Married 1 yr (DOM 1919), Born in NC, Both parents born in NC, Repairs engines Machinist, Can read and writeLyia A. Stimpson (sic), Boarder, F, W, 29 yrs old (DOB 1881), 1st marriage, Married 1 yr, 1 child with 1 still living, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC, Can read and writeRuth B. Stimpson, Boarder, F, W, 7/12 mos old (DOB 1909), Born in NC, Both parents born in NCAlbert H. Moore, Boarder, M, W, 31 yrs old, 1st marriage, Married 10 yrs, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC, Moulder in Foundry, Can read and writeDora A. Moore, Boarder, F, W, 27 yrs old, 1st marriage, Married 10 yrs, 0 children, Born in NC, Both parents born in NCJohn L. Brooks, Boarder, M, W, 23 yrs old, Single, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC, Hostler for Railroad, Can read and writeDavid James, Boarder, M, W, 24 yrs old, Single, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC, Hostler for Railroad, Can read and write

David P. Steinfor, Head, Owns home valued at $6,000, M(ale), W(hite), 46 yrs old (DOB 1884), Married at age 25 yrs old (DOM 1909), Can read and write, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC, Machinist in printing plant

Lida Steinfor (sic), Wife, F, W, 48 yrs old (DOB 1882), Married at age 27 yrs old (DOM 1909), Can read and write, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC

Ruth Steinfor, Daughter, F, W, 20 yrs old (DOB 1910), Single, Can read and write, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC, Saleswoman in dept store

James Steinfor, Son, M, W, 18 yrs old (DOB 1912), Single, Can read and write, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC, Salesman in dept store

Lottie Steinfor, Daughter, F, W, 16 yrs old (DOB 1914), Single, Can read and write, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC

I searched the military records to see if he had a WWI draft registration card. I didn't find one. I searched for a death certificate and death record in North Carolina. Since he must have died between 1935-1937 that narrows it down and they were living in Charlotte, NC before and after their daughter's birth. But their daughter has her birth record showing she was born in Pasquotank County, NC. So I checked for Mecklenburg County AND Pasquotank County, NC; all of NC and the nation. I even looked for all the "Herman"'s in NC during that time period just in case his name was so mangled that it wasn't showing. I tried looking for a Herman Griehsbach who was up to 20 years older than Betty Ruth or down to 10 younger than Betty Ruth. I tried a Google search, FindAGrave.com and Familysearch.org. I tried to find him in the 1930 and older censuses and couldn't find him in those either. So my last trick was to follow all the "Herman Griehsbach" in his age range no matter where they were living. Maybe he left Betty Ruth and the children and lived elsewhere while she said she was widowed. I was pretty sure that wasn't the case but I was down to my last idea. I mean, why isn't there a death certificate or death record? He couldn't have died in a vacuum. Here were my results:

I found a Herman Fred (or Frank) Griehsbach born 8/1/1890 in Dodge County, Wisconsin to William and Emilia Griehsbach. This cannot be THE Herman F. Griehsbach as he was living in Dane County, Wisconsin when he filled out his WWII Draft Registration Card when, according to the US City Directories, which have my Herman F. Griehsbach in Charlotte, NC in the 1930's. This Wisconsin Griesbach was married to Florence Griesbach.

There was a Herman Lee Griesbach born about 1902 in Cumberland County, TN to August and Becka Bowdoin/Amanda Griesbach (aka Obetta Griesbach) and died 2/1976 in Brookfield, Waukesha, WI. He was living with his parents in the 1910 and 1920 U.S. Census. He married Alma Griesbach and was with her in Milwaukee, Milwaukee County, WI in 1930 and 1940 Censuses so he can't THE Herman Griehsbach.

This Herman Henry Griesbach was born 12/3/1907 to Auguste and Tilda Griesbach and is still living at home with his parents in 1930 US Census. I couldn't find him in the 1940 US Census but according to his US Veteran Tombstone application he was still living in Wisconsin when he died in 1951, so it can't be THE Herman L. Griehsbach as he was in Charlotte, NC during the 1930's according to U.S. City Directories of Charlotte and died about 1937.

This Herman Griesbach was born 1/18/1909 to Henry Griesbach and Anna Deck Griesbach. He is still living Single with his parents in Outagamie County, Wisconsin in the 1910-1940 US Censuses. He died 12/15/1987 in Outagamie County, Wisconsin so he can't be THE Herman Griesbach who was living in Charlotte, NC during the 1930's according to the US City Directories of Charlotte and he died about 1937.

This Herman Griesbach was born about 1890 and died in Wisconsin on 9/22/1960 so he can't be THE Herman Griehsbach who was living in Charlotte, NC during the 1930's according to US City Directories of Charlotte, NC and died about 1937.

So, I'm still at a loss. If anyone finds this post and can tell me about poor Herman Griehsbach, I would appreciate it. I would like to know his full date of birth, where he was born and his parents names, his date of death and where he died. What happened to him? If it hadn't been for the City Directories I would not have known he existed. How did he disappear from the usual records (censuses, death certificate, death record, WWI draft registration)? Where are they buried? Thanks in advance!