No one is up there with Sobers, only Bradman and that is as a batsman alone. Warne is just in that level below, and for me followed by Marshall. Hobbs and Richards.

Imran is very close to Sobers in my opinion. In my ATG all time team I'd have both, Sobers as a batting AR and Imran as a bowling AR. Imran clearly the better bowler, and Sobers clearly the better bat.

Impressed that you noticed the points format Nuf, as a huge F1 fan myself, it's what I based it on.

I was wondering the same thing myself, whether people will choose players entirely to win votes. I'll definitely change things around with the formats we run, but I was thinking that we return every three or four rounds to the classic format just to keep it grounded.

Do you want a slot in the reserves, Nuf?

Yeah I used to play F1 heaps on PS1 when the point scoring was using that formula. Its a better system compared to the current one with points for the top 10, I guess it rewards reliability more this way and gives the weaker teams more of an opportunity, but I digress.

Mate, I'll give it a miss (slot in the reserves). I enjoy the end product of the drafts, but hate the waiting between picks. I will check in though a bit and vote on the best teams and give my 2 cents.

BTW re: Bradman, why don't you make him as a bit of a wildcard or something? So everyone has the opportunity to select The Don but if they do it means that their next pick is skipped and they automatically get the last pick of the game or something along those lines. It makes it interesting this way - I doubt everyone will sacrifice a round 2 pick just to get Bradman in round 1..

Also if I was creating a draft - I would exclude every single cricketer named in a prior draft.

Imran is very close to Sobers in my opinion. In my ATG all time team I'd have both, Sobers as a batting AR and Imran as a bowling AR. Imran clearly the better bowler, and Sobers clearly the better bat.

I've been going through Imran's stats and I'm struggling to find a Test Match where he succeeded with BOTH bat and ball. For example, a total of a 100 runs and several wickets over 5 days. I'm not saying he didn't, but rather I just can't find an example.

Allrounders should score plenty of runs and take plenty of wickets in the same game to be classified as 'Great' in my opinion. Like Sobers, Botham, Kapil Dev, Miller....

I've been going through Imran's stats and I'm struggling to find a Test Match where he succeeded with BOTH bat and ball. For example, a total of a 100 runs and several wickets over 5 days. I'm not saying he didn't, but rather I just can't find an example.

Allrounders should score plenty of runs and take plenty of wickets in the same game to be classified as 'Great' in my opinion. Like Sobers, Botham, Kapil Dev, Miller....

I can't remember the exact time period, but if you isolate the period of Imran's career between 1981-92-ish, his batting average is 50 and his bowling average is 19 (and that's over 55 tests). That's unbelievable I reckon.

I can't remember the exact time period, but if you isolate the period of Imran's career between 1981-92-ish, his batting average is 50 and his bowling average is 19 (and that's over 55 tests). That's unbelievable I reckon.

Indeed it is, but even in that period it can be split between batting well and not bowling or bowling well and not batting.

All time great bowler who could bat 8, yes, but all rounder, no.

marc71178 - President and founding member of AAAS - we don't only appreciate when he does well, but also when he's not quite so good!