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Anyone ever had a good amount of bong water ? And did you get anything from it ? I myself had about half a liter.........but i was stoned off my ass already, so i dont know if it did anything. So my real question is : Has anyone ever drank a fair amound of Bong water and wasnt stoned off their ass ?

The main thing water filters out of the smoke is the carbon monoxide. It actually doesn't filter as much tar as you'd think. A joint filters more tar out than a bong. A read a report on erowid somewhere about this I believe I'll see if I can dig it up.

Quote:vandago said:The main thing water filters out of the smoke is the carbon monoxide. It actually doesn't filter as much tar as you'd think. A joint filters more tar out than a bong. A read a report on erowid somewhere about this I believe I'll see if I can dig it up.

when i smoke a j i smoke the whole thing, roach and all, so there is nowhere for that tar to hide, so i dont see how that filters anything

Surprisingly, the unfiltered joint outperformed all devices except the vaporizers, with a ratio of about 1 part cannabinoids to 13 parts tar. This disturbingly poor ratio may be explained by the low potency of the NIDA-supplied marijuana used in the study, which was around 2.3%.Disappointingly, waterpipes performed uniformly worse than the unfiltered joint. The least bad waterpipe, the bong, produced 30% more tar per cannabinoids than the unfiltered joint. Ironically, the pipe with the electric mixer scored by far the worst of any device. This suggests that water filtration is actually counterproductive, apparently because water tends to absorb THC more readily than noxious tars. Like the waterpipes, the cigarette filter also performed worse than the unfiltered joint, by about 30%. Researchers speculate this is because cannabinoids are exceptionally sticky and adhere to other solids. Hence, any filtration system that picks up particulates is likely also to screen out cannabinoids.

Vaporizers

The vaporizer results appeared more promising, but confusing. The two vaporizers were the only devices to outscore unfiltered joints in terms of raw cannabinoid/tar ratio. The electric hotplate vaporizer did best, with a performance ratio about 25% higher than the unfiltered joint. The hot air gun was just marginally superior, but might have done better had it not been for its water filtration component.

What they are stating is that a joint has a better ratio of cannabinoids to tar in the smoke then a bong. However you are still wrong that a joint does better at removing tar from the smoke. The reason that the bong smoke had a lower ratio of cannabinoids to tar is not that it is worse than the joint at taking tar out of the smoke, it is that it takes more cannabinods out of the smoke per unit of tar taken out of the smoke. This leaves a volume of smoke from a joint more saturated with cannabinoids AND tar than the bong smoke.

OK but what it is also trying to say is. Neither one is more healthy joints have more tar but more cannabinoids so they get you stoned faster and hurt your lungs quicker. And bongs have less cannabinoids so you have to end up smoking more weed with a bong to equal the high from the joint so you'd in turn probably put just as much tar in your lungs. I however am not too sure I 100% believe this article or not I'm just posting it to show you all wehre I'm coming from. I know that 2-3 good rips of mids from my water bong gets the buzz on if I hold em in, and it takes me practically a whole joint to get stoned.

Quote:vandago said:OK but what it is also trying to say is. Neither one is more healthy joints have more tar but more cannabinoids so they get you stoned faster and hurt your lungs quicker. And bongs have less cannabinoids so you have to end up smoking more weed with a bong to equal the high from the joint so you'd in turn probably put just as much tar in your lungs. I however am not too sure I 100% believe this article or not I'm just posting it to show you all wehre I'm coming from. I know that 2-3 good rips of mids from my water bong gets the buzz on if I hold em in, and it takes me practically a whole joint to get stoned.

I too was contemplating whether that article is correct or not. My bong packs up about half a joint and I'm completely fried before I even get to the bottom. When I smoke a joint; however, I have to smoke the thing down to the roach to be that fried. When I read that I figured maybe I just assumed bongs were better therefore they were. But no matter what I still think a bong gets you way way higher than anything else...though I've yet to use a good vaporizer.