It's brilliant when defenders of these BS artists redsurrect threads with useless testimonials when they would be much better off just leaving it die OR answering the questions raised in the threads. Obviously option 2 is never going to happen.

Casey, if you are going to flack for this particular art, you should describe in much more detail why this art is effective. Similarly saying the techniques are "severe" means essentially nothing. So why don't you try again by providing a much better description of this art.

I couldn't find any Hom Do on you tube. I took a CDT (LE oriented) course a few years back. Not from Tom Patire but from some instructors associated with him. It was very similar to what they teach in an LE academy; pressure points, come alongs etc. There were a few things I really liked and use (horsebites, a type of pinch that hurts like an SOB), and there were some things I didn't care for (inter-orbital pressure point, I just don't think it's smart to put your hand close to someone's mouth). They made a big deal about some of their techniques being "trademarked". How on earth you can "trademark" a way to move your body is beyond me. Theoretically they could sue you if you taught the same technique but I doubt it would stand up in court if you can show that most of these techniques have been around for centuries.

The "X Student" is clearly Tom himself and if he was any bit of a man he would post as himself but he's too cowardly to do that. Instead he posts with a fake name so that the people he called out and tried to bash didnt kick his "Homo Do" ass and expose him for what he really is, an egostical hot head with no talent and a hair cut of a 70s porno star. This was actually the first time I've seen this thread and it sickens me that the man could stoop to that low. Its probably better I saw this now and not then b/c this was too long ago for me to even be mad at now but if this was recent I would have challenged him personally to a match. Totally professional with witnesses, just two martial artists settling their differences with a martial challenge to end this once and for all!

The "X Student" is clearly Tom himself and if he was any bit of a man he would post as himself but he's too cowardly to do that. Instead he posts with a fake name so that the people he called out and tried to bash didnt kick his "Homo Do" ass and expose him for what he really is, an egostical hot head with no talent and a hair cut of a 70s porno star. This was actually the first time I've seen this thread and it sickens me that the man could stoop to that low. Its probably better I saw this now and not then b/c this was too long ago for me to even be mad at now but if this was recent I would have challenged him personally to a match. Totally professional with witnesses, just two martial artists settling their differences with a martial challenge to end this once and for all!

forgive me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like you may know him or have some history with him?