I know that, which is why I've been really thinking about it hard. Right now on MSN I'm talking to 3 other WN's I've met off of Stormfront and all I can say is that they're being much more understanding then here.

Stormfront as a whole comes off as hostile - which I've noted for a long time - and that's partially why WNism is so frowned upon.

All of these people are saying I'm being a traitor and killing off my race when they just attack, insult, or call everyone a lost cause when they have so much as a shred of doubt.

And this ability to doubt one's opinions is what makes humans intellectually unique.

I do agree that Stormfront gives the impression of hostility which hurts the overall cause since many White people on the fence do not want to associate with 'haters.' (because according to the mainstream, defending the white race from racial genocide is pure evil. ) But how can any racially aware white person not be angry at the direct assault that is being launched against our race with multiculturalism propaganda 24/7?

That is the bottom line. Our race will become extinct in the long term from race-mixing, and in the short term, our children and grandchildren will become the minorities in their formerly White nations. Just think about how badly they will be oppressed when Blacks are in charge.

This troubles me , someone who has seen the light and then wonders away from it . One less person to help preserve the white culture and bloodline .
I also question if this person ever really was a white nationalist .
Maybe he will reconsider after some soul searching or maybe join the ranks of sheep . Hope he makes the right choice .

I'm thinking that OP just isn't too bright and is doing badly in school. The elevator doesn't go all the way to the top, know what I mean?

OP has seen how easy Ubangis have life. Whitey pays excessive taxes while Ubangis get Section "Ape," welfare cash, dat foo' stamp, free medical, free college education with guarantees of a degree no matter what, etc. Like wiggers, OP is thinking if he emulates an Ubangi he will get to live off the taxpayer, have no personal responsibility or accountability, and have a ready excuse for everything...."The man be holdin' me down jus' like duh black man an sheeit!" He's sold.

To make the transition more quickly and easily, OP has found a sheboon in the neighborhood that isn't a baby momma (that he knows of), doesn't have HIV/AIDS (that he knows of), no other STD (that he knows of), and has the finest weave he has ever seen! When she walks he swears dat must be jelly cuz jam don't shake like dat! Get a sheboon, get her pregnant ( just look at her twice does it), and get paid wif dat gubmint munny an sheeit!

OP has found that being a WN and being dedicated, being true and loyal to what you believe in is hard. It is easier to emulate the Ubangi that doesn't think a week ahead and doesn't have to. The Jew will make sure whitey saves and supports the Ubangi.

It's your decision, and I believe you should have that right to do so.
There is plenty of information on the effects of alcohol on your body and brain and if you think those are negligible then go ahead and drink till you drop.

I don't think it's worth the effects so I personally wouldn't do it.

Can I drive around in my 'happy' condition. Like you say, it's my decision.

"Why" should you keep the white race alive. I suppose in some existential way it doesn't really matter. You might as well ask the question, "Why shouldn't I commit suicide." Neither of these questions has any real objective answer.

That's entirely different.
The White race isn't some sentient being that is alive. It's a population classified by genetically based phenotypical markers and something that WN's generally define themselves as.
Can you give me a reason to identify as White, other than the fact that I'm undoubtedly White?

Suicide, however, is actually harmful. Whites would be 'Killed' in this instance by mixing which would take a long time and if such a thing happened be made ideally through CONSCIOUS DECISIONS by the people that choose to mix.
You can tell people not to race mix and give them whatever reasoning you use to convince yourself.

Suicide is a conscious decision by the person himself, but not by everyone else he affects. Suicide is generally done by the person if his/her feelings are not known to those around him that would be affected by it.

Equating the slow, gradual absorption of a population to someone killing themselves and the actual loss of a human life is ignorant.

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Understand that your body is having a chemical reaction due to your interaction with this girl. This is presently taking precedence over your previous values. Because of this temporary chemical "high" (and believe me it is temporary) you believe that being with this girl is more important than the survival of whites.

Why is the "survival of Whites" important?
This is probably the major thing I'm reconsidering, but, as I said, I have not come to a conclusion.

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In your state of chemical bliss the "value" you get from being with this girl supercedes the "value" you get from ensuring the survival and prospering of whites. With your values in such an alignment there truly is no personal reason for you to continue as a WN, however I suspect as this temporary high wears off you may regret your decision.

WN is a total failure from a strictly individualist perspective. There is absolutely no point in adhering to it or in trying to rationally justify it from an individualistic perspective.

However, the whole scale of the matter changes drastically if you switch to collectivist form of thinking. As anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of game theory is aware, rational individual decisions can lead to disastrous results for collective entities, be them some sort of imagined communities or actual, hard-down-to-earth organizations.
Now, the question you are really asking is "Do I have any reason to value the group that is usually classified as white?" Sadly, this is a question that lacks an uniform answer.

As to your question about why you should regard white people as your own, I suggest you read a bit about kin selection.

Can I drive around in my 'happy' condition. Like you say, it's my decision.

It's illegal in this country, as you know, but ideally it would be the decision of each separate municipality whether or not you can do that. And if they say yes, go ahead - if not, no.
And since you'd have the right to choose to live in a place that says yes or no, it's entirely your decision.

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Hope no one else suffers. Pity if they do.

Well if it's the consensus amongst the residents then it truly is a pity if they do, since they are the ones that allowed it.

However a race is not a group that is united by a specific government and can make laws that apply to them. A race is a group united by common ancestry.

Therefore this isn't even relevant to my thread; basically you just wasted my time when you could have been listing reasons for me to stay a WN.
I hope you realize this isn't helping me or any WN I will come to contact with in the future that I decide to speak with about our ideas.

Originally Posted by SileSo are you saying that you see no traits of any kind in whites that are significant enough that they should be preserved?

Are you ambivalent about *any* type of extinction or just that of the white race?

They'll keep a small breeding population in captivity and zoos. Think how much all the mongrels will pay to see how ancient Whites lived in their natural habitats.

Correction, oh wise one.
The final plan of the Zionists is to maintain a controlled & thriving white population of intellects who can continue with white engineering/discovery abilities. They will of course be sequestered from the mighty negros and 3rd world types who will be left to labor in the salt mines(so to speak).

I can't answer for the poster but the logic seems pretty simple to me. Those who resist temptations and place a higher value on racial preservation, than on hedonism, social acceptance or frivolous pleasures will see their genes passed on and will become the "new whites." Those who place a greater value on one of the previously mentioned things will either fail to reproduce or will mix their genes with other races. Either way their genes will not contribute to the "white" gene pool. Thus the "new whites" will be decended from those who were able to preserve their ethnicity, making the new whites a more naturally racially preservative bunch. I make no value judgement on the decision to forgo children or to mix with other races. I merely state what is logical.