Fate or faith - what brought about Manny Pacquiao's loss?

Amidst the busy-ness of Christmas holidays, Manny has once again demostrated his magic to unite the nation to be witness to his greatness in the boxing ring. But sadly, the euphoria and the excitement died so fast towards the first half of Pacman's 4th fight with the Mexican. The manner of his loss was a very big upset, was totally unexpected, totally un-Pacquiao, having been knocked out cold and motionless in round 6.

The cameras caught the very tearful and hysterical Jinkee seeing her husband knocked out lying on the canvass. But more than that, was what the world witnessed -- the sight of the very powerful Pacquiao splattered face flat on the floor ... weak and defenseless.

People and observers who have suddenly turned boxing experts and life gurus were quick to give unsolicited analysis. What caused him to lose that fight?

- short preparation
- carelessness and too much confidence
- lack of focus
- fate
- all of the above

Among others, it was his faith, his allegedly leaving his Catholic religion that was the most controversial. It sent Mommy Dionisia going ballistic and blaming the born again Pastors for her son's misfortune. In the above situations, it is only Manny who has the final say what had gone right and wrong.

On the other hand, people will always have a say, to blame Pacman or to love and be proud of him inspite of. Whether he fights again or retire is his own business. But one thing is certain -- Manny Pacquiao is the only and the greatest Filipino boxer ever who gave us immeasurable pride as Filipinos!

kahit hindi ka mag steroids you will gain muscles and maybe marquez workout hard that is why he develop muscles,I am married to qualified personal trainer and we do our workout at home and hubby told me ''A GUY LIKE MARQUEZ CAN DEVELOP MUSCLE IF HE ADDED DISCIPLINE INTO HIS WORKOUT ESPECIALLY DIT TOO''SO PEOPLE SHOULD STOP SAYING MARQUEZ ARE ON DRUGS..I AM NOT PACMAN OR MARQUEZ FAN'S BUT I AM JUST EXPRESSING MY OPINION...

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if it's indeed bec of his change of religion, from catholic to born again christian, may maganda naman naidulot eh...natalo nga xa sa boxing pero panalo naman xa sa pamilya niya.mas naging family man xa mula ng maging christian xa eh :) and besides there is nothing left to prove, he had proven his self so many time, he had given so much pride for us Pinoys. at hindi yun matutumbasan ng pagkatalo niya ngayon :) PACMAN IS PACMAN. I'M A FAN.

anin 12:24, how could u be so stupid to say it was all for show. Pacman isnt that cheap. U think he would risk his reputation as the best fighter of the world and allow himself to be knocked out at the 6th round? isip-isip ka nga!If this was a cooked up fight, paabutin nila yan till the last round and hindi KO at the 6th round. get my point? Bago ka mag-assume, medyo gamitin mo muna utak mo , puede?

his change of religion has nothing to do with his lost. catholic or born-again, we all serve one God, iba iba lng ang practice and ways, but they're all just the same. nagpapatagisan lng mga religions kasi each one wants to be the leader/top ng mga religions. but basically they serve all one God parin.

Exactly. I think it's both Fate and Faith. We may not understand it but the Lord has other plans for MP. Besides, he accepted his defeat wholeheartedly and not made an excuse to justify it. Let's be proud of him.

The Rosary was with Manny P. in many of his fights. We've seen him wearing it during his fights but since he became a "born again christian", The Rosary was no longer there in his last 2 fights and in both fights, he was beaten. Maybe it was just a coincidence or maybe not but for many catholics, the Rosary is a very powerful symbol of our Faith and taking it for granted has its consequences. For once, i tend to believe Mommy D.

i do believe on you. I had a pinay feng shui consultant in US and she told me changing religion creates bad luck and misfortune. Removing statutes, crucific and rosary are bad sign and you cannot serve 2 religion or masters. There is only one god.

Don't underestimate what Satan can also do. It might be that Satan has chosen this perfect timing to make Pacquiao lost the fight so we'll get confused. Either Catholic or Christian, for as long as you have faith in Christ, it doesn't matter. Let's also dig deeper what lessons or teachings God wants us to learn from his lost. Whether good or bad, it's not the situation that we should give emphasis with, it's how you get through in that situation with an understanding that everything is God's will.

He got careless on the last few seconds of the 6th round. Usually boxers would wait for the bell since there is already a 10 seconds warning from the timekeeper but he still move forward to attack Marquez.

I also think he lacks preparation. He spend more than a month in Gen. Santos training without Freddie Roach to supervise him. Roach didn't even wen to Gen. Santos.

Maybe there is already some strain in their relationship between Pacman and Roach. Coz Roach wanted Pacman to spend all 3 months training in LA but Pacman disobeyed him and he trained in Gensan instead before training in LA.

Marquez was more prepared than Manny Pacquio. With Manny's responsibilities at congress plus his involvement in showbiz and time spent with his bible studies, surely, Marquez had more time to train for the fight. The result was evident.

Sabi nga sa Holy Bible: "Seek ye first the kingdom of God and all its rigtheousness, and all these will be added unto you. " Ngayong natagpuan na ni Manny ang Panginoon, his life will be abundant in a different way.

paano kung sasabihin ninyo sa mga buddhists na Jesus should be their Lord & SAvior & not Buddha? sa mga Muslim, na hindi si Allah ang kanilang dapat sambahin kung hindi si Jesus? we should respect each other's faiths, and not bash each other because we are all not Born Again. each religion worships a Supreme being, and that in itself is the similarity that we all should realize & respect. PEACE everyone.

Manny Pacquiao accepted his defeat and most of filipinos of his loss too. Unfortunately, for those who always watch boxing have doubts on Marquez?. When he was fighting with Mayweathwer, he was so drained, tired, and dehydrated. He could not even take Mayweather's punches. But, these two rematch with Pacquiao, he all of a sudden became a super human. In the first round, he was tired, getting beat up. Second round, he became strong.?...DRINKING GATORADE??? this substance is mixed with dextrose and electrolite. The sad part, was no one ever call it out on Marquez drinking the gatorade. This is boxing, which is all about conditioning. This is football or Baseball that you allowed to take this drink.

How can a 39 years old, with broken nose, no mouthpieace, and a wobbly condition in the sixth round was able to throw a super punch like Marquez did to Pacquiao? Pacquaio had been punched by big and best boxers like Dela Hoya, Mosley, Bradley, Cotto, Hatton but able to take those punches. ??????

I accepted Manny's deafeat, but I hope Marquez find his drug testing POSITIVE!!!!

Marquez probably did his homework. He knew he's up against THE Manny Pacquiao so he just trained hard - maybe spent more time training than Manny (who's preoccupied with a lot of non-boxing related activities)

the pacman did not expect that strong punch. malas lang talaga. he took his defeat very well. let's just all pray that pacman will not suffer any side effects in the future. it was a very hard blow and very unexpected. let's just wait for his next step?

It is time to retire for Manny. He made the Filipinos proud with so many wins and this is the best time to just hang the boxing gloves already. Nothing changes, he's still the best fighter in the world. Let''s just all be happy and still be proud of him! We love you, PACMAN!

Yes He doesn't have to prove anything but the way he loss is devastating and seeing the negative tweets and pictures in Internet is kinda disrespectful for pacquiao.Its really hard to be no 1 coz everybody is waiting for your downfall and when that time comes expect huge criticism.

I had very reliable pinoy feng shui consultant in Chicago and she told us that there a lots of clients she had that create bad luck and misfortune when they change religion. Maybe the pastor advise him to remove all the saints, no rosary and no cross before and after fighting. She is one of the very reliable feng shui consultant and she is right and she told us from the beginning before bradley fight that manny will have bad luck and misfortune when he change religion from catholic to born again christian. It is just beginning, there will more. What he will do and go back to the original religion and ask forgiveness. You canno serve 2 masters which means there is only one god. Mommy dionisia is correct and this is lady feng consultant is very reliable and authoritative here in abroad. I am not advertising this lady feng shui consultant but all of her clients are attesting for her feng shui knowledge. If anybody wants her website, i will give it latter but i do not advertise or represent this lady feng shui consultant. I consulted and all the things she told me are only happened and right now i had abundant happiness and peace on our family life.

at anon 8.40. Kung one GOD nga lang talaga ang kinikilala ng mga born again at ng mga katoliko then why is the latter bashing the catholic church for their rituals? You said magbasa ng bible. The bible should not be interpreted word per word. There are alot of verses and words scholars and professors still dont understand. Kaya please lang wag magmarunong. Maka engot ka wagas lang. Ganyan ba turo sa church nyo? LOL

correct ka diyan anon 8:40am, if one is belongs to a Christian-based faith (Catholic, Protestant, Evangelical, presbyterian, Born Again, etc.) we aren't supposed to believe in Fengshui and other beliefs similar to that.

To all who blame a change in religion as the reason for Pacquiao's loss, stop.You're only giving Catholicism a bad name. God does not care about sports.He lost because he got punched in the face.If Marquez punched you right now, guess what, you will get knocked out, no matter your religion.

Its not the winning, its how you play the game. With all due respect to other religions, but for me his sudden change of believe might probably have brought him to his situation. On the other hand, mabuti na din na maranasan nya ang matalo, maybe its also god's way of saying. "ITS ENOUGH SON, I HAVE BETTER PLANS FOR YOU." kung hindi sya titigil, baka yung perang kinita nya ay maubos lang din sa pagpapagamot nya.BELT lang ang mawawala sa kanya, hindi naman ang kayamanan at pamilya nya. His pinoy fans are still proud of him.

yes i do believe that God makes all things happen for a reason, so I would think God does have plans for Manny after this Loss. Maybe it's for him to retire from boxing & concentrate on being a good & honest PUBLIC SERVANT. as Manny the champion boxer he brought us Filipino pride, but as Manny the congressman he could directly help his fellowmen. i sincerely HOPE this is what is next for Manny.

The answer is all of the above. It is his second loss in succession, maybe he should consider retiring. I think he lacks focus and his new-found religion is taking up a lot of his time and attention. It will be sad to see him continue to fight just for the money.

we pinoys are like kids spoiled by PACMAN through his winning streak. Thus, his loss to JMM broke our hearts into pieces. But hey, even in the beginning he never promised us that he would win every fight. But he always assures the whole world that he will put on a good show. And you did Pacman! You' re still our hero!

Manny Pacquiao: You've given the Filipinos worldwide immense pride and you've certainly mapped the Philippines in the boxing domain. Wherever I go in the world, once I say I'm Filipino, 7 out of 10 would go, "Ohhh, Manny Paaak-yao!!!"

And you're right, you win some, you lose some. That's modesty and humility at best for me. Graciousness in defeat. Even heroes do fall sometimes and like the mystical Phoenix, they rise again.

faith and lack of practice. his changed of faith really affected his relationship not only to his family (mommy D). People saying that Soriano and Time giver jowa made Pacquiao a "Faithful and family man" .. Dont claim that eh yung jowa ni time giver dami sideline.. It was his personal choice to save his relationship to Jinky who laid a annulment papers before his bradley fight (born again na sya noon)..

He was on top of everything before..and when you're at the apex of your career, there's no other way to go but down..that's life..and on the issue on faith, his loss could be seen as a 'punishment' of sort for changing his religion but it could also be seen as a trial of his faith on his new religion..

It's actually both irritating and funny that people are fighting over who has the better religion. I am a Deist. People like me are frowned upon by people who believe in divinity, but sa mga sitwasyon na ito, natatawa ako sa inyo. Nag aaway-away kayo tungkol sa isang bagay na hindi pinaniniwalaan ng taong tulad ko.

Pacman's wins and losses doesn't have ANYTHING to do with his faith. If I were a Catholic/Christian/Born Again, I'd be happy to know he remained faithful to his God despite everything, buti nga hindi siya sa ibang nilalang nananampalataya.

It is possible NOT to lose in boxing, just look at Mayweather, he has 0 loss. Anyway thank you Manny for my for my P5k!!! The minute I learned he attended that religious service, (instead of the usual mass) I placed my bet on Marquez. Halos lahat ng athletes worldwide may practice/pamahiin/seremonyang sinusunod, whether abstaining from sex, drinking milk, praying etc. For some reason they do work and once they stop their winning streak stops too.