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Yea, I had to watch it like 3 times to really get everything (the ending is sad EVERY time). The kids at the end im still having trouble getting, i think they represent something, but what I don't know. My summer has just started, my last summer as a High School Student, so I think now is the perfect time to rewatch it!

It is sad but soothing, I think drama's come off that way; like a drug or something.

The kid in the end isn't exactly "Wtf', since your "spirit" in the AIR universe can travel to anytime frame, when you see Yukito disappearing infront of Misuzu's bed, he returns to the past; he finds Misuzu (Or she finds him) when she's at school; trying to get classmates to hang out with her (In which she fails). The "Kid" in the end is actually Yukito, and the girl is Misuzu (reincarnated like Yukito). That's what I heard somewhere.

In the end the 2 kids at the beach are Kanna and Ryuya because on ep. 9 uraha tells ryuya that when the curse breaks kanna will be able to live the cycle of life again and on ep. 12 the voice says that the last child bearing the memories of the stars will have happy memeories. Misuzu being one with inherited memories is able to have happy memories in the end which has to mean that the curse is broken because it is said "the last child who bears memories shall have happy ones." With her being the last one that means the curse is broken which means those to kids have to be kanna and ryuya.

This is all i my opinion but if u have any comments about it or questions feel free to post.

I think the two kids at the end are reincarnations of Yukito and Kanna/Misuzu.

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For one thing, the boy seems to know who Misuzu and Yukito are when he looked at them, indicating that he has information only attenable if he is: 1.)a viewer of the story (an audience), or 2.)a character of the story that has already lived through the entire story. Since option 1 is non-sensible, I think option 2 works best. Now continuing from that choice, it can be deducted that Yukito, as Sora the bird, is "somehow" able to find Kanna in the sky, is "somehow" able to break the spell, and is "somehow" able to get themselves reincarnated. Now borrwowing notes from beef jerky's explanination, it can be seen that because Misuzu's death may have been able to loosen/break the power of the curse on Kanna (but I don't think it did break since Misuzu still died). However, that event may have help Yukito freed Kanna when he actually finds her. Now perhaps when the curse is finally broken, Kanna can be reborn as a human with no problems (and perhaps Yukito will get to be reborn as a human as well, now that he doesn't need to be a bird any longer). Now we know the story in Air jumps from time to time, literally, so perhaps they get reborn in the past (who's to say reincarnation has to happen in the future). Also the boy's speech would suggest that both he and the girl are the result of the characters' journey through the story. He knows the characters will "suffer a cruel fate for the rest of their days", and implies that these kids are able to begin their lives due to the efforts of those characters.

As for the girl, I would say she is more likely to be Kanna and not Misuzu since she didn't seem to know Misuzu and Yukito, at least she didn't have the same reaction as the boy, and she has blue hair. However, she did seem to have some of Misuzu's memories since she is playing on the beach with a friend, a wish of Misuzu in Ep 1, and she is wearing a summer dress similar to the one wore by Misuzu in Ep 7 when Misuzu is suppose to go to the beach with Yukito. In a way the girl is completing Misuzu's wish.

Also I'd like to add something to the theory why Sora is a crow (and not an other bird); in Ep 7 Misuzu seems to be interested in a crow, so it makes some sense that Yukito came back as a crow to make sure he has Misuzu's attention, which worked as she is the one who went and talk to the crow (and not the other way around) in Ep 9.

Now does anyone know what the name of Minagi's other sister is and what job does Haruko have before Misuzu's death? And should I watch Air the movie/Air Ep 13 after I finish the serie's Ep 1-12 and summer specials?

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Regarding H scenes, I could care less for them in any game but obviously there is a significant group of Key fans, in Japan at least that want them.

The outrage by them over Key's "clean" CLANNAD is a good example, forcing Key to make a adult version semi sequel to the sotry.

I think the two kids at the end are reincarnations of Yukito and Kanna/Misuzu.

Spoiler:

For one thing, the boy seems to know who Misuzu and Yukito are when he looked at them, indicating that he has information only attenable if he is: 1.)a viewer of the story (an audience), or 2.)a character of the story that has already lived through the entire story. Since option 1 is non-sensible, I think option 2 works best. Now continuing from that choice, it can be deducted that Yukito, as Sora the bird, is "somehow" able to find Kanna in the sky, is "somehow" able to break the spell, and is "somehow" able to get themselves reincarnated. Now borrwowing notes from beef jerky's explanination, it can be seen that because Misuzu's death may have been able to loosen/break the power of the curse on Kanna (but I don't think it did break since Misuzu still died). However, that event may have help Yukito freed Kanna when he actually finds her. Now perhaps when the curse is finally broken, Kanna can be reborn as a human with no problems (and perhaps Yukito will get to be reborn as a human as well, now that he doesn't need to be a bird any longer). Now we know the story in Air jumps from time to time, literally, so perhaps they get reborn in the past (who's to say reincarnation has to happen in the future). Also the boy's speech would suggest that both he and the girl are the result of the characters' journey through the story. He knows the characters will "suffer a cruel fate for the rest of their days", and implies that these kids are able to begin their lives due to the efforts of those characters.

As for the girl, I would say she is more likely to be Kanna and not Misuzu since she didn't seem to know Misuzu and Yukito, at least she didn't have the same reaction as the boy, and she has blue hair. However, she did seem to have some of Misuzu's memories since she is playing on the beach with a friend, a wish of Misuzu in Ep 1, and she is wearing a summer dress similar to the one wore by Misuzu in Ep 7 when Misuzu is suppose to go to the beach with Yukito. In a way the girl is completing Misuzu's wish.

Also I'd like to add something to the theory why Sora is a crow (and not an other bird); in Ep 7 Misuzu seems to be interested in a crow, so it makes some sense that Yukito came back as a crow to make sure he has Misuzu's attention, which worked as she is the one who went and talk to the crow (and not the other way around) in Ep 9.

Now does anyone know what the name of Minagi's other sister is and what job does Haruko have before Misuzu's death? And should I watch Air the movie/Air Ep 13 after I finish the serie's Ep 1-12 and summer specials?

I'll never though that will happen. What is name of this sequel?

The purpose of Haruko being there before Misuzu's death was so that she could have a second chance actually acting as a real mother for Misuzu. This opportunity only came after Yukito sacrificed himself and reincarnated as Sora. Misuzu being able to spend time with Haruko that summer made it 'complete' for her before she passed away.

For one thing, the boy seems to know who Misuzu and Yukito are when he looked at them, indicating that he has information only attenable if he is: 1.)a viewer of the story (an audience), or 2.)a character of the story that has already lived through the entire story. Since option 1 is non-sensible, I think option 2 works best. Now continuing from that choice, it can be deducted that Yukito, as Sora the bird, is "somehow" able to find Kanna in the sky, is "somehow" able to break the spell, and is "somehow" able to get themselves reincarnated. Now borrwowing notes from beef jerky's explanination, it can be seen that because Misuzu's death may have been able to loosen/break the power of the curse on Kanna (but I don't think it did break since Misuzu still died). However, that event may have help Yukito freed Kanna when he actually finds her. Now perhaps when the curse is finally broken, Kanna can be reborn as a human with no problems (and perhaps Yukito will get to be reborn as a human as well, now that he doesn't need to be a bird any longer). Now we know the story in Air jumps from time to time, literally, so perhaps they get reborn in the past (who's to say reincarnation has to happen in the future). Also the boy's speech would suggest that both he and the girl are the result of the characters' journey through the story. He knows the characters will "suffer a cruel fate for the rest of their days", and implies that these kids are able to begin their lives due to the efforts of those characters.

As for the girl, I would say she is more likely to be Kanna and not Misuzu since she didn't seem to know Misuzu and Yukito, at least she didn't have the same reaction as the boy, and she has blue hair. However, she did seem to have some of Misuzu's memories since she is playing on the beach with a friend, a wish of Misuzu in Ep 1, and she is wearing a summer dress similar to the one wore by Misuzu in Ep 7 when Misuzu is suppose to go to the beach with Yukito. In a way the girl is completing Misuzu's wish.

Also I'd like to add something to the theory why Sora is a crow (and not an other bird); in Ep 7 Misuzu seems to be interested in a crow, so it makes some sense that Yukito came back as a crow to make sure he has Misuzu's attention, which worked as she is the one who went and talk to the crow (and not the other way around) in Ep 9.

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She sees a crow in episode 1 as well, when theyre looking for the doll.

I didn't think of that before, and I don't know that I would have if you hadn't pointed it out, but it makes perfect sense. So thanks for that. ^^

Also, I don't remember which episode it was in, but didn't Kanna want to go to the beach as well? I thought that was why Misuzu wanted to play at the beach, because she's a part of Kanna, rather than the it being a reincarnation of Kanna wanting to because of Misuzu's memories at the end.

I do think that it's Kanna rather than Misuzu, but she's not necessarily exactly the same Kanna as we see during the Summer arc. Misuzu was a part of her, and so were all the girls who came before her, and she has their memories. In a way that makes them like her own memories, but each girl was (at least judging by the only one we see, Misuzu), unique in their own right. They're a "part" of her because the soul of a winged being can't be fully contained in a human body, but if they had the body of a winged being, they'd just be a reincarnation of Kanna. So... Misuzu is Kanna, and at the same time she isn't. (This is all the just the way I see it (obviously), and I can't explain it particularly well. :/) So I think that in the same way, the girl we see on the beach at the end is Kanna... but also not Kanna, she's a unique person just like Misuzu and the girls before her... but probaby more of Kanna than any other girl. In a way it's like there's a part of all of them in her, just like there was a part of her in all of them.

It's possible to apply a similar train of thought to the boy, but there's less reason to do so. It would be nice to think though, that there's something of Ryuuya, and everyone who struggled for Kanna's sake after him, in that boy who walks off holding her hand at the end of the series.

That was poorly explained, but I don't think I can do any better right now. I'm just interpreting this optimistically... which is a change for me.

She sees a crow in episode 1 as well, when theyre looking for the doll.

Also, I don't remember which episode it was in, but didn't Kanna want to go to the beach as well? I thought that was why Misuzu wanted to play at the beach, because she's a part of Kanna, rather than the it being a reincarnation of Kanna wanting to because of Misuzu's memories at the end.

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It's possible to apply a similar train of thought to the boy, but there's less reason to do so. It would be nice to think though, that there's something of Ryuuya, and everyone who struggled for Kanna's sake after him, in that boy who walks off holding her hand at the end of the series.

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Well, it seems liked I missed a scene.

I don't think Kanna actually wanted to go play at the beach, since she never even heard of the ocean until shortly before she was shot at/curse on. Even then she only imagine what life would be like living by the ocean, which is a different thought from wanting to play on the beach. I just rewatched Ep 8 and 9, (most of the summer arc except the little bit at the end of Ep 7), and Kanna never mentioned anything about the beach.

I suppose my reasoning behind who the boy is is not quite concrete. However, since Yukito was also affected by the curse, when he got that slash in Ep 7, I thought that maybe breaking the curse for Kanna may have some effect on him too (even as Sora). But your explaination is good too; its hard to really make sense of the ending (someone go ask the story writers from KEY).

I don't think Kanna actually wanted to go play at the beach, since she never even heard of the ocean until shortly before she was shot at/curse on. Even then she only imagine what life would be like living by the ocean, which is a different thought from wanting to play on the beach. I just rewatched Ep 8 and 9, (most of the summer arc except the little bit at the end of Ep 7), and Kanna never mentioned anything about the beach.

I wasn't sure, but I didn't have time to go through the Summer arc and check. Your thoughts on that seem to be right then, and it still fits with my theory.

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About the boy, the most obvious explanation is that he's the reincarnation of Yukito and Yukito alone. My idea was just something that occurred to me when I was thinking about Kanna and all of that stuff. But I'm going to choose to believe it for now, unless I'm proven wrong by the KEY's story writers, like you say. ^^;

To be honest though, I don't know that I'd want a concrete answer to all of this. I like endings that are open to interpretation, at least when they're done well. And this is done very well, IMO.

Interesting read, I'm glad there are so many AIR fans still. <3 that anime alot. About the girl and the kid in the end, as I previously mentioned; in AIR, "spirits" can travel into any time and any place, that's how Yukito traveled back in time when he became the Crow, and thus possibly how he transformed into the kid as well. Notice that the scene where the kid meets Yukito and Misuzu, I think it was the end of the first episode?

Earlier. It was between the OP of the first episode and the beginning of the episode, if I remember correctly. It's when Misuzu said she spent the afternoon sitting next to the sleeping Yukito, watching the kids play on the beach, and wishing that he would wake up and they could play together.

As for Kanna wanting to go to the beach - that was in one of the Summer Special episodes wasn't it? I'm planning on watching AIR again soon, after my exams are over in two weeks. And the Summer Special is almost as sad in it's own way as the final two episodes of the AIR arc - if only for the horrible irony of Kanna's final words to the gorgeous little bunny she adopts.

I miss waiting until 3am to watch the latest episode of AIR. Strange, but true.

-Andiyar

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Please explain this questions to me in relation to the movie, because I'm planning on watching the series after my exams(just three more days!).

It's probably best to think of the movie and the anime as two completely different stories. They happen to share the same characters and setting, but other than that, there's really not much of a direct relationship between the two. The movie is a more or less conventional tragic love story, paralleling Yukito/Misuzu with the legend of Ryuuya/Kanna. The anime is, well, a lot more than that.

Like your question, this is not meant to be rude at all -- I just don't want to spoil anything for you. But with that said, the best answer I can give is to suggest that you watch the anime, then come back and join in the fun of figuring it all out.

was wondering if thats what the song is called o_o
aosora vocal ?
im thinking of going to my local anime shop if that song is in the cd.

It's just called aozora, or 青空 if you prefer. The instrumental version that you hear several times during the series is called giniro, or 銀色. Both are on the AIR original soundtrack (tracks 22 and 23), which you can get from amazon.co.jp at http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/...Fencoding=UTF8, or himeyashop at http://www.himeyashop.com/product_in...roducts_id/695, and probably from other places as well...I just mention those two because I've had good luck with them so far. But if your local anime shop has it, or can get it for you, then by all means support them.

Yes -- that's the literal meaning of the kanji used. I'm not sure why they gave that version of the song a different name, but I assume it's a reference to that line in the bridge that translates to something like "Summer has come again, silvery light casts our shadows on the water". Maybe it's because the shortened instrumental version is just a shadow or reflection of the full version of the song?