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The dam may have an MH as opposed to a QAA or a FT title, but look at her pedigree further back and the bitches in that pedigree. That to me, may be more important than what the actual dam has done. Her bloodline is the same whether she has done anything in addition to the MH or not...

Thanks everybody for all your advice, I've decided to go with the Grady litter. I know it's $1000 more but the the dam is MH MNH4 and is out fc afc parents top and bottom. Once again thanks, I've been debating for a while.

i always thought grady was very funny on 'sanford and son'. emmitt(clark) who ran the fix it shop in mayberry on the 'andy griffith show' was funny too. but emmitt's exposure was limited and he never became as popular as floyd the barber. between the two, i like grady!

The dam may have an MH as opposed to a QAA or a FT title, but look at her pedigree further back and the bitches in that pedigree. That to me, may be more important than what the actual dam has done. Her bloodline is the same whether she has done anything in addition to the MH or not...

true. But the temperment of the dam is very important IMHO. If the dam is a very soft soft female, there will be puppies in the litter that certainly match her personality. I have bypassed very well bred litters outof soft, mealy Females. I want biddable. I will take sensitive and intelligent. But I don't want them peeing on my floor I raise my voice to them.

true. But the temperment of the dam is very important IMHO. If the dam is a very soft soft female, there will be puppies in the litter that certainly match her personality. I have bypassed very well bred litters outof soft, mealy Females. I want biddable. I will take sensitive and intelligent. But I don't want them peeing on my floor I raise my voice to them.

I agree with that, Susan. Hopefully, most MH's won't pee on the floor when one raises their voice

They're harder to get but not unobtainable. It usually means getting on a waiting list, probably even for years.

To the OP, depending on your goals, it's usually best to buy the best you can afford. Of course with dogs the most expensive doesn't always turn out to be the best dog. Sires bring half to the mating and dams bring half. Maybe the dams you're looking at have had previous litters. Maybe the breedings are repeats and you can look at how the previous pups turned out. You can research the pedigrees, maybe the dams litter mates have had similar breedings. How did their pups do?
In the end you make your choice and hopefully you'll get a great pup. Depending on your goals, the pup and how it's raised and trained.

Good luck with your choice.

Doing a repeat that produced well the first time is a good bet regardless of whether the dam was FC, AFC or MH, heck you could have a great producing dam who isn't even titled.

true. But the temperment of the dam is very important IMHO. If the dam is a very soft soft female, there will be puppies in the litter that certainly match her personality. I have bypassed very well bred litters outof soft, mealy Females. I want biddable. I will take sensitive and intelligent. But I don't want them peeing on my floor I raise my voice to them.

Both breedings are repeat. The emmitt litter just produced the oregon bird dog challenge winner, and the bitch is only SH titled, sorry my eyes played tricks on me, but she's proving to be a producer as other pups from that litter are doing well. You can look up the winner on Facebook , the dogs name is diesel dirtydog mills. The Grady pup is by chacha from castile creek kennels with lyle steinman. It's also a repeat breeding but the litter is to young to compete at the moment.