Is it possible to have a principled opposition to raising tax rates to avoid the fiscal cliff? It seems that Joe Scarborough doesn't think so. On today's Morning Joe, Scarborough suggested that those on the "far, far right" in the "conservative entertainment complex" and in the ranks of political consultants who oppose tax rate hikes do so out of base material motives.

According to Scarborough, speaking of such "far, far right" tax-increase opponents, "conservatism is a racket for a lot of people to get very, very rich."

This is the left narrative post election. There is no conservative movement. Just an ‘entertainment’ network to make money. It is shocking that 40% of the country is self-described as conservative, yet somehow the left has redefined it as fringe and insignificant.

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posted on 12/10/2012 6:48:11 AM PST
by ilgipper
(Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)

propagandist who will eventually fall victim to the regime, he he he he he he!!!!! those who do not know history are destined to repeat it! Ask the Russians, ask the Nazis, ask pol pot. “But wait! wait, I was onboard for you guys I carried the torch I supported you when you were young and up and coming....ARG!...CHOKE, SNIVEL, WHINE AND GASP”!USEFULL IDIOTS!

Take 100% from everybody. 100% tax. It would not solve the debt problem. Why then do they think taking a smaller amount will work? They don't think logically that's why. We need MORE taxpayers, not more taxes. Unnecessary spending HAS to be cut HAS TO BE. . . . . . Putting more people back to work, cutting spending, (Yes one Christmas tree is enough we don't need 54 trees in the WH, and many many more examples of ZERO spending our money like its water, $4M vacations etc. etc.)

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posted on 12/10/2012 7:00:31 AM PST
by DeaconRed
(The Lunatic is on the grass, and in the White House. . . . (Brain Damage- Dark Side of the Moon))

History is the best teacher. Joe Scarborough and all those other rich decadent liberals in Hollywood, NY, and in the media are reminiscent of all those upper middle class, wealthy and even aristocratic Russians who enthusiastically financed and supported the culture destroying Bolsheviks. By 1925 most of them were dust and footnotes.

What a jerk! The fact is that the ultra rich are not affected by this. It’s those people who have sacrificed for years and years, not making money for many of them, and who are now in a position to benefit from their efforts and ‘make up’ to some extent for the years of sacrifice and the years of much lower income, who will be affected the worst. I trained for 13 years, after college, to do what I do. Four of those years I was paying tuition and accumulating student loan debt, for the next 9 years I averaged ~$30,000/yr. salary. I made some additional income by moonlighting overnights and weekends, and used that to pay the student loan debt before it crushed me. I’ve never taken a dime from the federal or state government. I have taken a total of probably 5 weeks vacation in the past 7 years. So why exactly should I be punished? What is my fair share?

You are right. What bothers me about these comments is that even if true, it doesn’t invalidate the correctness of conservatism. Meanwhile, being a turn coat Republican, like Joe Scarborough, is an even bigger racket.

Conservatism is a racket to make a lot of people rich, that is why we were the richest nation on earth. Socialism is a racket to make a small minority rich, and that is why we no longer are a rich nation.

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posted on 12/10/2012 7:09:58 AM PST
by American in Israel
(A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)

I oppose higher tax rates on the “rich” precisely BECAUSE of the adverse affect it will have on the poor.

The “rich” happen to have a function in the private sector, and that of course is to put excess capital at risk. Without having altruistic motives, the “rich” function as benefactors to the poor, because they are our employers and our investors.

Extracting money through taxes from the “rich” causes layoffs (harms the poor), and increased prices on everything, every product and every service, that these “rich” employers provide. This also harms the poor.

In short, the poor will pay disproportionately for the increased taxes on the “rich”.

This is the way we should be articulating our opposition to taxes on the “rich”.

"conservatism is a racket for a lot of people to get very, very rich."

I guess the converse is...:

Liberalism is the ability to fool stupid people in to believing that Democrats are there to help, while enslaving and dooming generations of stupid carbon units into thinking that working for a living is foolish, and blaming others for your parasitic lifestyle is the fault of someone else.

Silly liberal carbon units of the PC (Parasite Class) "being lazy, stupid and ignorant, is no way to go through life, nor is living off the labor of others.

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posted on 12/10/2012 7:24:34 AM PST
by SERE_DOC
( Â“The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.Â” TJ.)

There is a very familiar pattern emerging here in the Left's treatment of its conservative opposition:

First, they play the role of an aggrieved minority, bravely fighting against a big, bad, bullying monolith. This is the "wolf in sheep's clothing" stage, in which coordinated interests conspire to take over civil institutions, often over a prolonged period of time. During this phase, radicals pretend to support the institutions that they truly mean to destroy or to utterly re-make.

Then upon achieving power, they seek to marginalize, demonize, accuse and blame the opposition for all manner of societal problems. They begin to consolidate power by working to de-legitimize the ideas and beliefs of opponents, placing them beyond the pale of civil society, slowly introducing the idea that they are a problem, a threat, a danger.

"conservatism is a racket for a lot of people to get very, very rich."

It is not often you get to see the outright ignorance of a person in the media but this is proof of Scarboroughs ignorance graduated to stupidity.

If thinking were something Scarborough was capable of, he would have noticed by now that corrupted politics is the racket.

Government is corrupted. All it comes down to is which form of corruption you favor. It really doesnt matter whether your favorite corruption is Liberal or Conservative, Democrat, Republican, left, or right.

And Rich Liberal Republicans like you, Joe “I found a dead girl in my office” Scarborough, get very, very rich trashing Conservatives for your big paycheck on the liberal network you agree to work for.

Liberals are driven by a need to HELP.
Liberals believe that Rich People do not need HELP.
Liberals believe that Poor People do need HELP.
So the sooner the Liberals can make the Rich People Poor,
The sooner the Liberals can HELP them.

(BTW Scarborough, you have my permission to read this on MSNBC, (More Socialists Now Bow to Communism).

Hey joe (sounds like a hendrix song), the dirty little secret is that you socialists need those rich people’s money to fund all these programs. Once the host is consumed or moves elsewhere you will not be able to sustain the spending. Perhaps that’s the plan. Capitalism collapses and the only thing left standing is government.

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