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Hadith guesswork on "7 gates of Hell"

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Allah Almighty has given vivid descriptions of Hellfire in various Quranic Verses which the disbelievers must endure. But the Quran does not mention the names of the different parts, levels and gates of Hell. These specifics are known to Allah alone which will be revealed to the unfortunate ones on the Day they are assigned Hellfire.

As usual the story-telling world of traditions & fatwas treasured by our clerics hasn't been able to contain their guesswork and imagination running haywire. They claim Hellfire has "seven" gates or levels. They have named those seven levels as Jahanum, Ladha, Saqar, Hutamah, Jaheem, Saeer and Al-Hawiyah. The clever trick they have played with this idea is that they have picked several Verses of the Noble Quran and from each of those different Verses they have picked those seven words labeling them as names of the seven levels of Hell. In reality those Quranic words are simply different Arabic descriptive terms for fire, flames and the heat of Hell. These words have nothing to do with "levels or gates." The Verses picked by traditionalists for supporting their Hadith are mentioned in the following link. You can read those Verses yourself and determine that these Ayats are simply referring to the fire or flames of Hellfire, not to gates or levels.

Adding to the guesswork, the Hadithists also quote the idea of some Imam As-Saadi .. not sure who he is. This person more unwarranted fabrications, describing the architecture of the gates of Hellfire and the distance between them. Quoting As-Saadi below:

Imam As Sa'di (Rahimahullah) mentions in his tafseer: "The gates of Hell are structured one gate below the other descending, opposite the gates of paradise, which have one gate above the other ascending. The distance between each gate is 500 years prepared for Iblees and all of his followers."

Please folks, for the sake of Allah Almighty, refrain from such imaginary ideas. Only Allah Almighty knows these details, not Imam Saadi, not you and not me. Allah has made it very clear in the Quran telling us that we must NOT follow that of which we have no knowledge.

"(O man), follow not that whereof thou hast no knowledge. Lo! the hearing and the sight and the heart - of each of these it will be asked." (17:36).

Walaikum As-Salaam brother ..The ridiculousness of Hadith speculations has no bounds. And they talk of it as if these are confirmed facts. It's the same type of conjecture they propagate by misinterpreting Surah Al-Kausar (Abundance), claiming that it's the name of a spring in Jannat. This topic has also been very substantially discussed by Sister Heba. Verse 17:36 you quoted is an excellent reminder to all those fearless story tellers that it's about time they began to heed and fear Allah. The prohibition not to speculate is so explicit in this Verse that anyone with an ounce of conscience should awaken.

You're welcomed Sister. And you're right, the claim that Kausar is a spring is similar presumption.

All we can say is that "Jahanum" stated in the Noble Quran is the name of for entire Hellfire. Indeed Hellfire must be a huge place and very likely it might be having different sections, levels, grades and many gates. But Allah Almighty has not given any details on such aspects, so it's thoroughly inappropriate to weave such ideas.

Very useful read. Thank you brother TS. I never knew of this particular Hadith. You have caught its trick very correctly which involves picking the various synonyms of fire or flames of Hellfire as mentioned in the Quran - Ladha, Saqar, Hutamah, Saeer and Al-Hawiyah - and misinterpreting them as names of gates or levels of Hell. "Jahanum" is the name for Hellfire and "Jaheem" comes from that. But according to the mullahs Jahanum and Jaheem are the first & fifth gates of Hell, respectively. Thanks also for quoting V.17:36 which is a direct warning against such speculations. Only Allah knows how exactly He has constructed Hellfire. None else knows it.