ZetaTalk Chat for September 10, 2011

If you are unsure whether your question should be posed to the Zetas, post it on this discussion first: http://poleshift.ning.com/forum/topics/got-a-question-for-nancy-but Newcomers welcome. The weekly Q&A chat is for subjects not yet addressed by the Zetas. Commentary chitchat will automatically be deleted if it does not apply to the questions posed. As the 7 of 10 events are happening, unfolding as predicted we anticipate more traffic and are trying to keep it clean.

.. If trying to discern if you are a contactee, Visitations is very helpful.

.. If pondering incarnations and what happens after death, the Density section has your answers.

.. The rules that constrain the visitors, including rescue and healings, are in the Rules section.

.. Climate change and life after the pole shift are detailed in the Aftertime and Pole Shift sections.

.. Whether the visitors are here to rescue humanity during the coming pole shift is in the Transformation section, including the perpetual battery to be offered to highly Service-to-Other survivors.

Use keywords to check whether your question has been addressed during prior chats. For instance, if your question is on the recent weather irregularities, use “weather” as the keyword in the prior ning chats archives or the prior years GLP chat archives.

If you cannot find that the Zetas have addressed your question before, and you have done your research, then post your question.

Many people new to the subject are focused on the relative safety of their location.

Research the Safe Locations [http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm]information for your country or neighboring countries, your state or province or neighboring state or province, and any cities nearby.

If you have questions that have not been addressed, and have done your research, then post your question.

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Zeta Rules that Apply

1. No personal counseling is done. This rule has been in place since 1996. Questions should be of broad interest to the general public.

2. Correlation or resolution of ZetaTalk with the work of other channels or authors is not done unless they predict and have a prediction accuracy track record, as otherwise they are not a peer of ZetaTalk which does so. This rule has been in place since 2002. Just because another website or author makes a statement does not make that statement true, nor will the Zetas explain to you why their statements are not true, as then they are taking time out to address the issue.

3. The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.

4. The date of the pole shift cannot be given, but the sequence of events can be given. Check the ning pinned discussions and blogs for such information as the 7 of 10, the last weeks, etc.

Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek.

To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

Recently the chemtrail operation in Texas has begun again after a long remission. Yesterday there were at least 10 trails in the sky at once over San Antonio. Why has this begun again? And what can we do as Citizens to protect ourselves and our soil (so that we can continue to grow our food)?

Derrick and Nancy can clarify this Q further for you! Not all STS are mass murderers. The ones who do commit such atrocities are the few who have frankly stepped far beyond the line, and will remain so for a long time. You brother is a good example of a STS-leaning soul who has not killed another, but if pushed hard enough could do so. It depends on many factors and can be quite complicated when it comes to murder on a soul level. At the very base it comes down to motives, though there are situations that involve soul agreements. In fact, a STO could even commit murder under certain circumstances, though that is a whole other ball game. Mass murder, however, is solidly a STS action, no more, no less. You may place a call for such a soul, and I'm assuming you wish to aid this individual; to push them in the other direction. This is up to your brother, his soul may or may not agree to work with you, as his path is in his own hands. There is only so much you can do with such a young and selfish soul. At some point in the future, when the PS happens, it's highly likely that he will dive further into the STS world, and when this happens, you will have to let him go if you find yourself in a STO lifestyle. Here's an excerpt from ZT that may help:

"Contrary to what writers of mystery novels and the standard cops and robbers scripts present, motives are as varied as the individual. Human lore portrays murder for vengeance, for sport, for power or money, but seldom if ever portrays murder for desensitization or simply to attain peace and quiet. Most murders, few of which are ever solved, are committed by those solidly in the Service-to-Self or moving in that direction. They understand they will be living with their own kind in the future, segregated by orientation, and that the more ruthless will rule those who hesitate. Many murders are also committed simply to rid oneself of a temporary annoyance - the loud mouth at the bar, the aggressive driver weaving in and out of traffic, or the demanding shopper never pleased with what the clerk brings forth. Motives are complex." ZETATALKhttp://www.zetatalk.com/worlds/w49.htm

Limitless said:

Are all sts souls mass murders? or are there some sts souls who never commit murderer during their incarnation, yet remain sts? because my brother is STS or at least leaning that way, and I pray for his soul . He seems genuine when claiming about how he hates wars and animal abuse, and how he is worried about global warming. But when you interact with him he demands full attention from everyone, and if he doesn't get it he turns into a complete rage. Also he is slighted very easily, constantly getting into conformations with random employees at stores over nonsense. Does placing the call for a STS family member make a difference??? I hate him but still worry for his soul!

http://www.zetatalk.com/orientat/o50.htmAre only poor people STO or there are STO entities under the rich people as well? Can you name any rich celebrity who is a mature STO? You explained STO entities are people who think at least 50% of their time about others. But my question is do STO entities always know what would be the best for others? You have mentioned STS aliens use fear to turn undecided people into STS. But how to help undecided people to become STO? A question about the call. Did I understand it right that the undecided people can't make the call, but only the STO or STS?

All people, rich or poor, can be and are found to be Service-to-Other. It is not a factor of their current incarnation, but a factor of their many incarnations and their spritual maturity. Read the characteristics we have described and determine for yourself who might be Service-to-Other or Service-to-Self, as your question is an invasion of privacy for those you would point at. The 50% rule is not used to force attentions on those not wanting help from others, but as a guide to those trying to determine whether or not they are Service-to-Other. It is the amount of time thinking of others that is the issue, not whether they are correct in their judgements as to what others may need or want. You also cannot help others become Service-to-Other. This is a personal choice, one that requires action on their part, not intellectual argument. Our advice on this matter is not to give an Service-to-Self individual everything they demand. Force them to take care of themselves, at the very least. In this you are not helping them become Service-to-Other, but are at least not encouraging them to be Service-to-Self. The response to the Call is based on the nature of the Call, regardless of who gives it.

Are all sts souls mass murders? or are there some sts souls who never commit murderer during their incarnation, yet remain sts? because my brother is STS or at least leaning that way, and I pray for his soul . He seems genuine when claiming about how he hates wars and animal abuse, and how he is worried about global warming. But when you interact with him he demands full attention from everyone, and if he doesn't get it he turns into a complete rage. Also he is slighted very easily, constantly getting into conformations with random employees at stores over nonsense. Does placing the call for a STS family member make a difference??? I hate him but still worry for his soul!

Is the US gov run by "bad aliens" in the last few years? Will vaccinations be used to the reduce population by infecting people with swine flu etc. Should the US be concerned about people being thrown in FEMA camps?

Certainly the Bush administration was under the influence of the STS, both in human and alien form. Most of the crimes they committed will never be revealed, and certainly most of the plans they laid were never implemented. The American public would be in disbelief if all were revealed. Where these plans included killing off what was termed "useless eaters" by chemtrail delivering disease or poisons or by vacinations, and included forming work camps where only the strong would be saved and the rest of humanity starved, these plans of course are no longer on the table with the advent of the Obama administration

This Zeta Talk news letter explains how in the past the elite were planning to use chemtrails to poison the populace but now they are only being used to fog up the view of planet X

Recently the chemtrail operation in Texas has begun again after a long remission. Yesterday there were at least 10 trails in the sky at once over San Antonio. Why has this begun again? And what can we do as Citizens to protect ourselves and our soil (so that we can continue to grow our food)?

But that still doesn't explain what it is exactly that they are releasing. It's apparently very similar in look and dynamics (thick trails that become greyish and wispy-looking clouds) to what they were releasing before. Aren't they the same compounds as before? Aluminum and barium? If they are, then they will have the same effect on the soil (alkalinization, which makes it infertile soil). So again, is there any way we, as STO Citizens, can do to protect the soil and ourselves from these compounds? (Regardless of the reason they are committing these Crimes against Humanity?)

Derrick Johnson said:

Hi Artu

Zeta Talk about how plans to poison the populace using chemtrails are no longer on the table

Is the US gov run by "bad aliens" in the last few years? Will vaccinations be used to the reduce population by infecting people with swine flu etc. Should the US be concerned about people being thrown in FEMA camps?

Certainly the Bush administration was under the influence of the STS, both in human and alien form. Most of the crimes they committed will never be revealed, and certainly most of the plans they laid were never implemented. The American public would be in disbelief if all were revealed. Where these plans included killing off what was termed "useless eaters" by chemtrail delivering disease or poisons or by vacinations, and included forming work camps where only the strong would be saved and the rest of humanity starved, these plans of course are no longer on the table with the advent of the Obama administration

This Zeta Talk news letter explains how in the past the elite were planning to use chemtrails to poison the populace but now they are only being used to fog up the view of planet X

Recently the chemtrail operation in Texas has begun again after a long remission. Yesterday there were at least 10 trails in the sky at once over San Antonio. Why has this begun again? And what can we do as Citizens to protect ourselves and our soil (so that we can continue to grow our food)?

Chemtrails have been frequently discussed, so your answers are already in the body of ZetaTalk (thanks Derrick as usual for your hard work). I found them discussed in the following chats, which YOU could do also as asked to do on the chat intro above, in the archives. Why didn't you DO that?

Recently the chemtrail operation in Texas has begun again after a long remission. Yesterday there were at least 10 trails in the sky at once over San Antonio. Why has this begun again? And what can we do as Citizens to protect ourselves and our soil (so that we can continue to grow our food)?

Declined as just proof of what the Zetas said, that this trend would spread to African and Asian countries (and beyond) where despots had ruled (and colonialism fits that description). I'm very pleased to hear this!

Due to your excellent reporting (you and others, Stanislav) I see that saltwater intrusion is mentioned EVERYWHERE in the news and intend to do a newsletter feature on this. Sinking has returned with a furry now, it seems that the Philippine Plate is not stuck anymore at the Luzon island point. I truely wonder about Luzon, if it will sink greatly, but the Zetas never stated that. Since the Sunda Plate is folding sideways like an accordion, and also being bend down at the Sumatra and Java curve, it is hard to say just what crumble will happen next. Declined as other than the approximate outcome described by the Zetas so well, they cannot predict with certainty!

Houston is near the Gulf of Mexico, and the Gulf of Mexico will "walk" over much of Texas during the pole shift. If even Dallas will be under 100 feet of water during the pole shift, how can a coastal city like Houston remain high and dry? What difference does it make if Houston is under 100 feet or 500 feet of water during the pole shift?

Those who have witnessed tidal bore roaring up a ravine are astonished that water does not seem to respect the relative sea level during those times. What makes the water climb? Water pressure drives water to climb above its level because at the point where the pressure builds, it takes the easiest path. When the force of pressure is extreme, compressing the water at lower levels, the path of lease resistance is taken. During a tidal wave, this path is away from the bulk of water. A tidal wave moves inland until one of two situations occurs:

the level to which it has climbed is higher than the level elsewhere, and the wave recedes, or

the pressure behind the wave decreases.

Where tidal waves meet mountains, this can result in tidal bore up ravines. Where tidal waves flow inland, this results in a flood tide going hundreds of miles inland. Where the tidal wave finds foot hills or barriers, the force of the wave is broken such that it is slowed, allowing a reduction in pressure behind the wave to arrive before the wave moves far inland. But where the tidal wave finds virtually no barriers, due to the land being flat, it becomes water on the move, and this very momentum carries it far inland, and above a height that would otherwise be expected. Water on the move does more than just push forward, it also creates a void behind it. At first, this water is on the move because there is pressure behind it, like sloshing water in the Gulf. But then, the force of this moving water takes on a life of its own. It has momentum, and moving forward, creates a void behind it, thus drawing the water in the direction of motion, thus continuing the motion. This water on the move is greater than the resistance in front of it, so it continues. For Texas, this means that the water will lap at the foothills of the Rockies, before dying back.

Texas will be devastated by waters sloshing in from the Gulf during the pole shift as well as the rising waters that occur within in the first two years after the pole shift. Being flat land, and low, the Gulf will roll over Texas without opposition, at a height of several feet. This water must go someplace, and will take the path of least resistance. If the water is flowing most rapidly as it moves over the flat land, then water that would normally move toward mountains or natural barriers will be diverted to a faster moving flow area - the Texas plains. Thus Texas, due to its flat terrain, will get more water overall than neighboring areas. Even the high plains will have several feet of water moving across it, where the coastal areas will have tidal waves hundreds of feet high. With few tall trees and faced with the after effects of hurricane force winds and earthquakes that will flatten all but new steel skyscrapers, desperate survivors will have few places to go to escape the moving sheet of water, which will drag whatever it engulfs back out into the Gulf on its return.

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The devastation to Texas has, until this moment, come in bits and pieces of ZetaTalk. We early made the statement that the water will roll across Texas even to "lap at the foothills of the Rockies". Our statement was also that Dallas would be flooded for weeks, and the UFO warnings about Stephenville getting the drowning from Dallas crawling up on their shore reiterated that. Our statements on the degree to which Texas will be flooded have been ridiculed, but have consistency. Maps of the area showing where a water height of 875 feet show our predictions as possible at this height. Why would we not merely warn Texans that the tidal wave along their shores was going to be 875 feet? In our experience, it is better to move to the next level, explaining what this means to man, who else does not engage the reality of the message. To state what cities will be flooded and how far the water will push gets their attention, where a mere number does not.

Why will Texas suffer in this regard when the rest of the world is to receive sloshing of 500-600 feet along their coasts during the hour of the pole shift? The S American Plate will crush the Caribbean during the hour of the shift, moving through this small plate to collide with the N American Plate, in essence. Where does the water in the Gulf go during this process? Of course it will pushes over Florida and along the Gulf states, who are anticipating the sloshing and 150 foot drop in elevation for Florida and the southeastern US to require them to be in the Appalachian mountains or foothills for safety. But Texas, as we have stated, is flat land, and offers no resistance to a wall of water on the move. Water will funnel there, finding resistance elsewhere. The Balcones Escarpment which swaths across Texas in a curve is the point where the wave will break. Here the cities of Austin and San Antonio will find themselves flooded but not at a great depth. The force of water will push beyond the escarpment where ravines allow the press of water to move forward, rushing over the high plains in places.

The devastation to Texas has, until this moment, come in bits and pieces of ZetaTalk. We early made the statement that the water will roll across Texas even to "lap at the foothills of the Rockies". Our statement was also that Dallas would be flooded for weeks, and the UFO warnings about Stephenville getting the drowning from Dallas crawling up on their shore reiterated that. Our statements on the degree to which Texas will be flooded have been ridiculed, but have consistency. Maps of the area showing where a water height of 875 feet show our predictions as possible at this height. Why would we not merely warn Texans that the tidal wave along their shores was going to be 875 feet? In our experience, it is better to move to the next level, explaining what this means to man, who else does not engage the reality of the message. To state what cities will be flooded and how far the water will push gets their attention, where a mere number does not.

Why will Texas suffer in this regard when the rest of the world is to receive sloshing of 500-600 feet along their coasts during the hour of the pole shift? The S American Plate will crush the Caribbean during the hour of the shift, moving through this small plate to collide with the N American Plate, in essence. Where does the water in the Gulf go during this process? Of course it will pushes over Florida and along the Gulf states, who are anticipating the sloshing and 150 foot drop in elevation for Florida and the southeastern US to require them to be in the Appalachian mountains or foothills for safety. But Texas, as we have stated, is flat land, and offers no resistance to a wall of water on the move. Water will funnel there, finding resistance elsewhere. The Balcones Escarpment which swaths across Texas in a curve is the point where the wave will break. Here the cities of Austin and San Antonio will find themselves flooded but not at a great depth. The force of water will push beyond the escarpment where ravines allow the press of water to move forward, rushing over the high plains in places. http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx058.htm

Searching Safe locations, All of the 10 largest cities in US have been described except for NUMBER 4 - Houston , TX Guess the waves will be bigger because everything in Texas is bigger. Zetas Comments for #4 ?

A person who embraces the ZT message, even suspects that s/he is a contactee (and looks forward to conscious contact), but struggles nonetheless with an instinctive fear of aliens (specifically the Zeta phenotype). I understand there has been a mass propaganda campaign to instill fear in the populace, but in some cases the feeling stems from early childhood and seems not to have been imposed by outside messages.

I am having a hard time understanding this conflicted set of feelings and imagine that there are others out there who would like to understand as well. Is it a remnant of possibly having made STS calls at a young age?

(I have read very nearly the entirety of ZT and have not found an answer that explains this fully, though the following link suggests that mixed feelings are a 'normal' reaction: http://www.zetatalk.com/visitatn/v41.htm. Is that really it??)