How conviently you seem to forget a contex of those posts - at that time everyone expected MH to be on Vita and Nintendo had inferior 3DS still selling for 250$ and noone knew memory cards will cost 100$.

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How conviently you seem to forget a contex of those posts - at that time everyone expected MH to be on Vita and Nintendo had inferior 3DS still selling for 250$ and noone knew memory cards will cost 100$.

But still, you can't deny that Vita was designed as the clear winner back then.
Also, this.

But you're right, back then, we knew too few. Vita was still a premise of 250 dollars handheld with PS3-like graphics and ton of support coming from both East and West. I don't think anyone could've seen such mismanagement coming from Sony.

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How conviently you seem to forget a contex of those posts - at that time everyone expected MH to be on Vita and Nintendo had inferior 3DS still selling for 250$ and noone knew memory cards will cost 100$.

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Well, that was my point, expectations later changed, and after that they've changed consistently, as I mentioned
I'm also one of those who don't believe cheaper memory cards would really help the Vita that much.

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But still, you can't deny that Vita was designed as the clear winner back then.
Also, this.

But you're right, back then, we knew too few. Vita was still a premise of 250 dollars handheld with PS3-like graphics and ton of support coming from both East and West. I don't think anyone could've seen such mismanagement coming from Sony.

I can't remember where I stood on PSV vs. 3DS. I was too busy watching the furious ascension of mobile gaming. I'd imagine I'd have placed my bets on the Vita though (and probably did, I just haven't found the relevant post). I don't remember being especially bullish on the Vita until I actually got one. Mind you, I don't remember a lot from 3 years ago.

Contrary to PSP, Vita was never perceived as a real treat for the respective Nintendo handheld, not even at the beginning.
Sure gaffers rejoice and gloated when the price of the two were revealed being the same but support wasn't there.

That's one good advantage (perception of impending overtaking of Nintendo) which evaporated last gen.

On this note, I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing Android powered, iPod Touch-esque devices. Capable of media playback, Internet & Email (wi-fi) & running apps but without the 'phone' component. They could be priced in an extremely predatory manner, I'd imagine.

the mh announcement came well before the vita launched, and right after the 3ds's quick and deep price cut. there was still a bit of expectation that sony would at least net that series if anything for their next gen handheld, especially when nintendo looked weak.

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From reading the rest of the thread it seems that there was one Samsung device, and it was shit. I just found it funny that I was speaking like a smoke-shrouded mystic about something so blatantly obvious.

the mh announcement came well before the vita launched, and right after the 3ds's quick and deep price cut. there was still a bit of expectation that sony would at least net that series if anything for their next gen handheld, especially when nintendo looked weak.

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From reading the rest of the thread it seems that there was one Samsung device, and it was shit. I just found it funny that I was speaking like a smoke-shrouded mystic about something so blatantly obvious.

I suspected I might be misremembering. For some reason I thought MH was the point where everyone threw their hands up and said 'well, that's that then!'.

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As for Vita announcement, 3DS price drop and MH announcement lot have been going on in Japan (and thus many rumors were spawn too).
At that time Iwata-san was very concerned about the fate of 3DS, and he even made announcement to his employees that Nintendo may be in danger (yes he did say that). IIRC it was right before Nintendo decided the price cut.

Sad thing about that is the reaction from Sony for Nintendo fortifying 3DS support was to instead of counter it, loosen the support for Vita
My guess is that instead of going head-to-head they redirected the money to PS4, but what do i know...

Sadder thing is Sony's choice may be financially correct after all, oh well.

Given the phenomenal success of the PS4, definitely. Even if it had only been middling success, it's still the right choice. Vita is relatively inconsequential to their wider corporate strategy.

Invest more into a shrinking market that's always been something of a vanity project and that you've never been able to lead... or into the pivotal launch of your entire interactive entertainment business...

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Whatever do you mean?Given the phenomenal success of the PS4, definitely. Even if it had only been middling success, it's still the right choice. Vita is relatively inconsequential to their wider corporate strategy.

Invest more into a shrinking market that's always been something of a vanity project and that you've never been able to lead... or into the pivotal launch of your entire interactive entertainment business...

Vita , even before launch, was seen as in a difficult position.
Launching after 3DS, with much less important software.
There was the hope Sony would secure MH on the system since PSP fortune was so heavily dependent on that franchise.
When Nintendo cut the price and announced the MH deal with Capcom, Vita small hopes crumbled down.
That was before Vita launch and we all remember Vita low performance in the first year and half.

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I was among the fews looking for a Vita comeback even in early 13. What I wasn't expecting was to see 3DS numbers decline so much to see those two consoles head-to-head. Let's see if for 3DS it is "just" temporary (as happened to the DS vs PSP back in the days in Japan, both at a very different, higher, level) or if it is a "final" decline (I think that 2DS and price cut, plus some big release could help the 3DS in increasing its weekly pace, even if it best days have passed)
Diferent for the Wii U, instead, where I drop any hope after the weak HW increase due to the release of Pikmin 3 (something around 20k, if I remember well): that testified that they waited too long to give a vital signal, and the initial drought of software definetely damaged the image in the eyes of the public. I still believe that it could do better than this around Holidays and with a price cut + interesting bundles. But better than this doesn't mean good.