There are things that on the surface are not too obvious about magic that have a lot of ground in science. Everything described in TSB is firmly grounded in science and psychology. For some it works quite well, for others we need other avenues to achieve the same results. At the end of the day it does work. Don't discount something that you don't understand or don't agree with. No one said practicing magic was required to be a Satanist either.

you believe in things any good physicist / psychologist can disprove to you in half a day.

A LOT of well-informed and highly respected psychologists would agree that what we call "ritual magic" is highly efficient (psychologically, not supernormally- and nowhere is it claimed that it's definitely supernormal).

Read C. G. Jung when you feel like getting educated.

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Thank you for all the quick responses and my apologies for this swearword ridden outburst of mine.

I did not really read for 3 days straight and the reason I have not come across magic before is that I skipped most chapters / articles because the philosophical ideas were more important to me.

The incoherent nature of this text is due to the fact that English is my third language and that I was a little intoxicated at around 6AM.

I realize that by the very nature of your philosophy you will not give a deal whether or not I understand. However, if you happen to feel like discussing this matter I would happily read through any texts you give me about magic.

No, wait, I do not expect you to provide me with information or answers. I will take some time (re)reading all that I can find and then come back here to agree or disagree.

I want you to know that I am truly sorry for how I expressed my feelings in this original post. I respected this community a lot and I thought I had found a lot of people just like me. When I then (possibly mis-)understood the concept of magic I was heavily disappointed and extremely angry.

I understand that it is not easy and I cannot demand it but I do beg all your pardon for how childishly I behaved.

Thank you for all the quick responses and my apologies for this swearword ridden outburst of mine.

That's good.

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I skipped most chapters

That's bad. I suppose the chapters have an order for a reason, it would be like skipping algebra and going straight to calculus.

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The incoherent nature of this text is due to the fact that English is my third language

That's good. For a third language it's pretty decent.

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and that I was a little intoxicated at around 6AM.

That's bad. If something affects your judgment so badly you shouldn't do it.

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I realize that by the very nature of your philosophy you will not give a deal whether or not I understand.

That's good. You understand that much.

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if you happen to feel like discussing this matter I would happily read through any texts you give me about magic.

That's bad. You should be able to find most information on your own. That I know of, spoon feeding usually requires something in return. Read the chapters and articles you missed. I'm just pointing out the obvious.

I found your original post hilarious. Reminded me of someone who defined Satanists as "atheists with a fucked-up sense of humor".

You know, excessive use of curse words is usually indicative of a low IQ, amongst other things.

LOL. My dad used to say that when I was a teenager. He said that cursing means that a person is not capable of finding another more suitable word to adequately himself. I agree.

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I want you to know that I am truly sorry for how I expressed my feelings in this original post. I respected this community a lot and I thought I had found a lot of people just like me. When I then (possibly mis-)understood the concept of magic I was heavily disappointed and extremely angry.

I understand that it is not easy and I cannot demand it but I do beg all your pardon for how childishly I behaved.

In one post you essentially call us a bunch of fornicating idiots.

Your angry, drunken rant speaks volumes of your character.

The fact that you turn around and beg for forgiveness speaks even more.