Gun Control: Our future president in 2008 called for "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded" as the military. Should the "bitter-clingers" be worried?

As Andrew Malcolm has noted on these pages, the Department of Homeland Security has been buying lots of ammo, enough by one calculation to fight the equivalent of a 24-year Iraqi War. Some have speculated about a link between the stockpiling between candidate Obama's off-prompter campaign remarks about a national security force and the stockpiling by DHS of more than 1.6 billion (with a 'b') bullets.

DHS has been buying more than bullets. As we noted in a recent editorial, DHS is seeking to acquire 7,000 5.56x45mm NATO "personal defense weapons" (PDW)  also known as "assault weapons" when owned by civilians. The request, issued on June 7, 2012, calls these AR-15 variants "select-fire" weapons, meaning they can be both semi-automatic and automatic.

To what purpose is a civilian agency arming itself to the teeth at the same time the administration has been making war on the Second Amendment and pushing for stricter gun control measures such as universal background checks, while others, such as New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, hint at outright confiscation?

i would suggest ammo manufacturers follow suit of gun makers and gun sellers and refuse to sell to every level of law enforcement ad the military, until the assault on the 2nd amendment is stopped dead.

I wonder how many times 0bama will refer to union-related jobs tonight such as 'roads, bridges, highways, high-speed rail, education, teachers, police, fire, etc'?????? More times than he says the word "I"???? We shall see.

Without the mindset and training youll get you rear-end handed to you and toys taken.

I don't think the average liberal has what it takes to stay in a fight. They'll be happy with marching, flashy uniforms and catchy slogans. When it gets up close and personal with a pissed off patriot they'll wilt.

“Just bc you have the latest toys doesnt mean you win. Without the mindset and training youll get you rear-end handed to you and toys taken.”

Here’s my fear. The Tyrant is trying to wind down the wars and at the same time cut back on the military. But I think that it’s a ploy.
The employment situation, as you know, sucks. With all of these people being released from the military there aren’t going to be any jobs for them.

This is where the Tyrant announces that he’s going to hire all of these ex-military to become his new civilian defense force.

Think about it, they’re already trained and it’s obvious that the Tyrant and his minions are stockpiling supplies and equipment but for what purpose?

That’s just my 2 cents but I think that’s what’s coming down the pike.

To what purpose is a civilian agency arming itself to the teeth at the same time the administration has been making war on the Second Amendment and pushing for stricter gun control measures such as universal background checks, while others, such as New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, hint at outright confiscation?

A possible purpose: suppression and slaughter of those who voice opposition to the regime once it completes its ongoing coup d'etat against The People.

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posted on 02/12/2013 5:36:28 PM PST
by Trod Upon
(Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)

“While we should be aware of what the DHS is doing, one explanation Ive read that makes a lot of sense is that somebody is simply making a ton of cash from buying all these bullets.

By buying the bullets straight from the manufacturer, they are getting a huge discout. Then they are turning around and re-selling them to the government agencies at a huge markup.

I dont know who that person is, but that may be what they are doing.”

If D.H.S. is buying all of this ammunition I don’t see why they wouldn’t plan on Using it.Unless they had something else in mind.Like getting all of that ammo off the market by making it Prohibitively expensive.

If they are doing this that indicates that this administration is up to no good.Keep your eyes open Folks.

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posted on 02/12/2013 5:46:20 PM PST
by puppypusher
(The World is going to the dogs.)

Consider another angle. Through executive order or other action Obama intends to make it very difficult or expense to acquire ammunition. That would partially explain the purchases and stockpiles. The firms go out of business and the only ones who have ammunition is the government.

I’ve had enough of California, comradefornia, commiefornia. need time to actually have a little freedom, to work with folks in that state who I know already have plans and a better legislature than sinking California. I tried to hold it together the last ten years but it’s impossible. I’m tired of living behind the lines, the hatred towards Christians, the love of homosexuality, the love of the EPA rules and taxes and their dagumed dope and so much more.

They can have their leaders, or alleged leaders. They HAVE to do all Obama says because the cities and counties are all going bankrupts and the thin blue line now has so many holes Mexican drug cartels and illegals have the run of many streets after dark.

Yes, South Dakota. I’d go for Texas but I like the colder climates and even more rural than where I live. And they’re trying to take our weapons when all the above is even more despairing unless you live out here and see it.
Now out here, it’s still nice but gas, food, lodging, everything is going up and doctors are even planning their escapes.

Please pray for America, for those true American’s stuck behind the lines with their children propagandized similar to the Hamas Minnnie mouse, ...I just can’t take it anymore and I have a real bad feeling California might be the beginning of a real class/race war. Obama is fanning the flames and there’s too much division. I was young during Watts, saw Bobby Seale and those cronies in Oaklans in 67 or so, barely lived through the horrors of the Rodney King riots9 i worked in Norwalk as a nurse and taught Korean martial arts and was forced to work and defend the studio and worked OT as a nurse, that showed anyone with any sense, it was just the tip of the hatred and the next time it was nearly promised to be more deadly so I moved North.

Now, a short reprieve, but enough of a breather to realize if FLY-Einstein can just ignore her conservative and be voted in by not debating; Californian’s just blindly voted for her, voted down meg what’s-her name, voted in fifty nasty folks including Pelosi, gavin newsome, Moonbeam, Boxer, Waters, voted for taxation and weirdly worded propositions...no mas, NO MAS!!!

This is just not the California i loved so much in the late fifties and sixties, a bit of the 70’s but then I guess I lied to myself thinking things would get better. Well, they haven’t. So I will sing” Cry for me California,” as I drive EAST into the rising sun about a year from now. I do hope they let me in that beautiful state.
I need to make good friends and figure out how to move out there.

Anyone have notes or ideas on moving and living in South Dakota, please let me know. I’ll need only a small cabin, or studio with a fireplace and garage, i want to work full time and have a small pension. Thanks for reading.

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posted on 02/12/2013 6:13:45 PM PST
by Karliner
( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28- 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)

Homeland Security’s not reselling ammo to anyone. Who would they ‘resell’ to anyhow? A foreign country? The Sauds? Social Security’s also making large buys.

Too bad we don’t have a free press or they could ask and investigate and find out. If a Republican President5 was setting up a personal army the press would care... Hey New York Times, I’m talkin’ about you.

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