Seriously, I'd like to know whose brilliant mind came up with the idea. "Hey, I know. We'll make up fake Obamacare cards that have no significance to the program whatsoever, and then we'll burn them! It'll piss those libs off but good!"

cameroncrazy1984:Seriously, I'd like to know whose brilliant mind came up with the idea. "Hey, I know. We'll make up fake Obamacare cards that have no significance to the program whatsoever, and then we'll burn them! It'll piss those libs off but good!"

I would love to have insurance that only cost $147/month, even back when I was 30 (15ish years ago). I got my first kidney stone that year. My insurance that was more than $147/month left me with a bill of around $2K. The total "bill" was over $20K. If the guy in the story got one of those he'd be thankful for only having to pay the $6K deductible.

Also, was anyone else waiting for the punch line in this? I read about half way through before I realized that it probably wasn't going to be satire.

sammyk:So the individual mandate is wealth distribution from the young and poor to the old and wealthy? It's too early for me to wrap my head around that kind of stupid. The entire point TFA article is trying to make falls apart when you consider that parents can keep their sprog covered until they are 26. Let's not forget the subsidies either.

/will enjoy the tax benefit of keeping his daughter on his insurance while she goes to college.

Young and healthy people don't need any coverage because they can't get injured or fall ill. That only happens to old people, duh.

zoompow:I would love to have insurance that only cost $147/month, even back when I was 30 (15ish years ago). I got my first kidney stone that year. My insurance that was more than $147/month left me with a bill of around $2K. The total "bill" was over $20K. If the guy in the story got one of those he'd be thankful for only having to pay the $6K deductible.

Also, was anyone else waiting for the punch line in this? I read about half way through before I realized that it probably wasn't going to be satire.

It's Politico. They're fairly derpy almost all the time, so I take Poe's law into consideration when reading it.

1) the reason burning draft card was an effective protest was that it was novel and carried significant personal risk for the protestor. It meant something. Making phony cards just to burn in some sort of choreographed media event is just sad and pathetic.2) How out of touch are these people that they thought calling back something that happened almost half a century ago would really appeal to today's youth?

Judging from the left's hysterical overreaction to FreedomWorks' "Burn Your Obamacare Card" campaign, this oppressive transfer of wealth from young Americans to the elderly appears to be the Achilles Heel of the new, insanely authoritarian progressive movement.

It is impossible to overreact to you and your comrades goose-stepping around the country and begging kids to turn themselves into martyrs for your cause, Matt Kibbe.

VictoryCabal:1) the reason burning draft card was an effective protest was that it was novel and carried significant personal risk for the protestor. It meant something. Making phony cards just to burn in some sort of choreographed media event is just sad and pathetic.2) How out of touch are these people that they thought calling back something that happened almost half a century ago would really appeal to today's youth?

The sad part is when you got invited to "burn one" only to find out they were talking about those cards.

cameroncrazy1984:Seriously, I'd like to know whose brilliant mind came up with the idea. "Hey, I know. We'll make up fake Obamacare cards that have no significance to the program whatsoever, and then we'll burn them! It'll piss those libs off but good!"

As I'm sure you're aware, a majority of the Republican platform is centered on "pissing off the libs." They can't even hold a conversation with someone they "know" is a "lib" without falling into this. It's all they have.

cameroncrazy1984:Seriously, I'd like to know whose brilliant mind came up with the idea. "Hey, I know. We'll make up fake Obamacare cards that have no significance to the program whatsoever, and then we'll burn them! It'll piss those libs off but good!"

MBrady:ahh..yes the benefits cap...and welcome to the world of higher premiums, higher paycheck deductions, and higher copays. oh, and you thought that your employer was going to pick up that tab, didn't you.

Oh yeah, all that stuff that was going to happen worse anyway.

Mine is, by the way. Maybe you should bootstrap your way into a better job.

ExcedrinHeadache:I got laid off in May and got a new job in July. The new job put me on 90-day probation, at the end of which I will receive my benefits. So I figured I would go the three months without insurance, I should be fine.

Of course, about two weeks ago I wound up in the Emergency Room (I'm fine, thanks), and they handed me a bill for $12k, which they dropped to $4.5k as a "discount" because I was paying for it myself. I just bought a house in the new town, had just moved cross country, and simply had no money lying around, so I had to borrow from a family member to pay the amount (they offered to bring it down to $3k if I could pay it all at once). And now I'm getting bills from Pathology and am expecting the "physician's bill" as well.

It was a stupid gamble, and I lost. If I'd had insurance, I'd have paid $1500, and that would have been my maximum co-pay for the year. I'm a fairly young guy (38) and pretty healthy in general, but the one time I gambled on no insurance, I lost. Big.

Ain't that a tidy scam? "The bill is $12,000. Oh, wait, we can't chisel your insurance company? Uhhh, how about $4,500? Still can't do it? Okay, let's call it $3,000 cash 'n' carry."

By basic keystone markup, that means it really cost $1500. $10,500 profit pays for a lot of tee times, if the sucker has insurance.

Brick-House:Here's an Idea... how about me make it a Picture ID and then let people use it to Vote?

Broken English. Failure to understand that there is no actual card. You are really hitting the marks here. Did you ever consider perhaps not demonstrating your complete and total ignorance of the issues?

MBrady:Nah, I'm close enough to retirement that I'll just have you and all the other libs here pay for everything. I've got almost 30 years with the same company, so with my pension, 401k, and my social security that you'll be paying into, my financial adviser says I'll be doing just fine.

The ACA is an "oppressive transfer of wealth from young Americans to the elderly" in the same way that all forms of insurance are an oppressive transfer of wealth from the lucky to the unlucky.

These people screamed and screamed for decades demanding a "free market" solution that didn't cut the multi-billion-dollar insurance industry middlemen out of the action and now that they've actually got it, what's the f*cking issue?

pueblonative:FTA: A National Center for Public Policy Research study recently revealed that single, childless Americans between the ages of 18 and 34 could save at least $500 by opting out of Obamacare and paying the $95 individual mandate penalty instead.

Author:"The penalty is $95. . ."

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"per adult and $47.50 per child, or 1 percent of income, whichever is greater"

Remember, kiddies, speed reading only works if you retain all of the relevant information.But at least they'll have some money for the bankruptcy filing fee after the medical bills come on in.

dafuq you talking about? The author said "childless Americans between the ages of 18 and 34."

Remember, kiddo, speed reading only works if you retain all of the relevant info.

MBrady:incendi: MBrady: ahh..yes the benefits cap...and welcome to the world of higher premiums, higher paycheck deductions, and higher copays. oh, and you thought that your employer was going to pick up that tab, didn't you.

Oh yeah, all that stuff that was going to happen worse anyway.

Mine is, by the way. Maybe you should bootstrap your way into a better job.

really now. even the Time magazine article said different. but who am I to disagree with a know-it-all lib who thinks the world of 0.

Nah, I'm close enough to retirement that I'll just have you and all the other libs here pay for everything. I've got almost 30 years with the same company, so with my pension, 401k, and my social security that you'll be paying into, my financial adviser says I'll be doing just fine.

suck it.

I hate to break it to you, but "libs" do not get upset that someone receives social security. In fact most "libs" would be pretty happy with that situation. I not sure why you would believe that you using a program that the "libs" are completely in favor of you having the ability to use would somehow be offensive.

ExcedrinHeadache:I got laid off in May and got a new job in July. The new job put me on 90-day probation, at the end of which I will receive my benefits. So I figured I would go the three months without insurance, I should be fine.

Of course, about two weeks ago I wound up in the Emergency Room (I'm fine, thanks), and they handed me a bill for $12k, which they dropped to $4.5k as a "discount" because I was paying for it myself. I just bought a house in the new town, had just moved cross country, and simply had no money lying around, so I had to borrow from a family member to pay the amount (they offered to bring it down to $3k if I could pay it all at once). And now I'm getting bills from Pathology and am expecting the "physician's bill" as well.

It was a stupid gamble, and I lost. If I'd had insurance, I'd have paid $1500, and that would have been my maximum co-pay for the year. I'm a fairly young guy (38) and pretty healthy in general, but the one time I gambled on no insurance, I lost. Big.

When I first got married back in the 80's my wife got BCBS insurance through her employer. There was a 90 day waiting period, except for emergencies. One day she went blind in one eye (we later learned it was the first signs of MS). The doctor ordered a CATscan, which didn't find anything at the time.

Well, a bill for $3,000 came in the mail. She had gone in for the procedure one day before her coverage kicked in. The insurance company determined that suddenly going blind was not an emergency and refused to pay. For the next two years I ignored dunning letters and calls, first from the hospital, then from the collection agency they sold the debt to. One day the guy called and said "Look, just send us $300 and we'll call it even." "You got it!" I yelled and that was that.

sabreWulf07:The ACA is an "oppressive transfer of wealth from young Americans to the elderly" in the same way that all forms of insurance are an oppressive transfer of wealth from the lucky to the unlucky.

These people screamed and screamed for decades demanding a "free market" solution that didn't cut the multi-billion-dollar insurance industry middlemen out of the action and now that they've actually got it, what's the f*cking issue?

You misunderstand. They want insurance companies to be able to operate like they used to be able to in some states, where they can permanently exclude you from ever getting coverage for a pre-existing condition that is dozens of years old.

Aristocles:pueblonative: FTA: A National Center for Public Policy Research study recently revealed that single, childless Americans between the ages of 18 and 34 could save at least $500 by opting out of Obamacare and paying the $95 individual mandate penalty instead.

Author:"The penalty is $95. . ."

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"per adult and $47.50 per child, or 1 percent of income, whichever is greater"

Remember, kiddies, speed reading only works if you retain all of the relevant information.But at least they'll have some money for the bankruptcy filing fee after the medical bills come on in.

dafuq you talking about? The author said "childless Americans between the ages of 18 and 34."

Remember, kiddo, speed reading only works if you retain all of the relevant info.

Doctor, heal thyself.

Here, I'll quote the relevant part since you seem to have missed it "or 1 percent of income, whichever is greater". The sad part for you is, you probably weren't speed reading and you still failed to comprehend the words right in front of your face.

Soup4Bonnie:MBrady: I've got almost 30 years with the same company, so with my pension, 401k, and my social security that you'll be paying into, my financial adviser says I'll be doing just fine.

What am I supposed to be "sucking it" over? That fact that you planned for your inevitable retirement? Do you think I'm paying for your 401K? Do you think I don't want to contribute to SS?

You seem confused, codger.

CPennypacker:Soup4Bonnie: MBrady: I've got almost 30 years with the same company, so with my pension, 401k, and my social security that you'll be paying into, my financial adviser says I'll be doing just fine.

What am I supposed to be "sucking it" over? That fact that you planned for your inevitable retirement? Do you think I'm paying for your 401K? Do you think I don't want to contribute to SS?

Thrag:Aristocles: pueblonative: FTA: A National Center for Public Policy Research study recently revealed that single, childless Americans between the ages of 18 and 34 could save at least $500 by opting out of Obamacare and paying the $95 individual mandate penalty instead.

Author:"The penalty is $95. . ."

[farm4.staticflickr.com image 250x272]

"per adult and $47.50 per child, or 1 percent of income, whichever is greater"

Remember, kiddies, speed reading only works if you retain all of the relevant information.But at least they'll have some money for the bankruptcy filing fee after the medical bills come on in.

dafuq you talking about? The author said "childless Americans between the ages of 18 and 34."

Remember, kiddo, speed reading only works if you retain all of the relevant info.

Doctor, heal thyself.

Here, I'll quote the relevant part since you seem to have missed it "or 1 percent of income, whichever is greater". The sad part for you is, you probably weren't speed reading and you still failed to comprehend the words right in front of your face.

Actually, both parts were relevant. Why would I even mention the 1% of income? It had nothing to do with my calling out the commenter throwing stones while living in a glass house.

MBrady:incendi: MBrady: Nah, I'm close enough to retirement that I'll just have you and all the other libs here pay for everything. I've got almost 30 years with the same company, so with my pension, 401k, and my social security that you'll be paying into, my financial adviser says I'll be doing just fine.

suck it.

Man, it must suck to be old and grumpy.

oh..boo hoo. are you cranky because you didn't make chief fry cook yet?

old? who is old? I'm close enough to retirement that I can see it. you must have so far to go that any web site you go to can't even predict what century would be a good time for you to retire. lol.

grumpy? why would I be grumpy? my wife and I have a good life, have everything we need, take great vacations, and are happy.

just get back to work there kiddie and keep working hard. you might even get your social security...some day.