For those of you too lazy to check out the link sysy posted or those that still dont understand, the Nations Cup is a 2 player tournament held each fall between various different countries. Each team submits 5 players each week to participate in a head to head clash again an opposing team. You then have that week to schedule a best of 7 game match against one player on the other team that your matched up against. Countries can have as many teams as they are able to form, which is why we are hoping to have at least 3.

Also, here is the list that sysy had posted a few days ago in the Competitive Forum listing all of the American players that are eligible to play:

If you are on this list and interested, feel free to reply. The more players and teams we can make, the more fun it is for all of us!

Once we can get a good number of players together, then we can help each other improve by playing tournaments (like sysy suggested) or playing regular games with each other. Discuss your tickets afterwards and help each other out if you think there could have been a better way to play the tickets.

Once again, the more people we have, the more fun we can have together!

I was not sent a PM, but someone in lobby pointed me here anyway. If you need an additional player, I may be interested (only hesitating because I'm unsure of exactly what I am committing to here, i.e. how many games, how rigid/flexible a schedule). Anyway, let me know if I am needed.

If JimmiJazed still wants a discussion by pm he can put me off his ignore list. But i guess he wont.

Then open letter to him and explanation about why he's not part of a 3rd team.

I sent a list of players to Tyrana, future captain. And yes, i forgot to mention your pm that arrived later in my box than any others because i was at work.

Then tyrana as a captain, and also a very good friend of mine, asked me about jimmiJazedzed.

Obviously, with what happened some months ago, with JZZ using the temporary failure of the ranking system and denying continuously that he did it on purpose, I didn't back his integration in the 3rd team, when Tyrana asked my opinion about it.

I don't filter anything, I share my opinion with a friend who asks for it. If your friend is asking for your opinion about a restaurant of which you thought the food really not good, the friend is very likely to not go to that restaurant...

Does that prevent anybody from going at that restaurant ? No.

Moreover, Tyrana chose to play with 7 players and thought it was enough.

JZZ can still play NC and is welcome to be part of a TNT, if he would like to sign up at that link.

If JimmiJazed still wants a discussion by pm he can put me off his ignore list. But i guess he wont.

Then open letter to him and explanation about why he's not part of a 3rd team.

I sent a list of players to Tyrana, future captain. And yes, i forgot to mention your pm that arrived later in my box than any others because i was at work.

Then tyrana as a captain, and also a very good friend of mine, asked me about jimmiJazedzed.

Obviously, with what happened some months ago, with JZZ using the temporary failure of the ranking system and denying continuously that he did it on purpose, I didn't back his integration in the 3rd team, when Tyrana asked my opinion about it.

I don't filter anything, I share my opinion with a friend who asks for it. If your friend is asking for your opinion about a restaurant of which you thought the food really not good, the friend is very likely to not go to that restaurant...

Does that prevent anybody from going at that restaurant ? No.

Moreover, Tyrana chose to play with 7 players and thought it was enough.

JZZ can still play NC and is welcome to be part of a TNT, if he would like to sign up at that link.

Hmm. I did not see this until now, until someone not directly involved asked me if I was mad that Sysyphus personally, actively sabotaged my effort to play in the NC for USA. My immediate reaction was that I was stunned any of this was even public. In asking how that came to be, I learned of this post by him. Took me a few days to get around to looking for it, but now I have. Yes I was irritated back then about what he did (or rather didn't) do. But I saw no need to publicly posture about it! What good would it do, and why should anyone else need to know, or even care. It seems however the other party in the disagreement did want to air the dirty laundry, I now see.

The specifics he wrote are even more ... interesting. In the PM Sysyphus sent me -- the one that led me to put him on ignore, because he continued insulting me in it, beyond what he posted publicly on April 2012 -- he didn't say this (that Tyrana asked him about me); he said he offered his opinion unsolicited, to Tyrana when he sent my name to him.

And Tyrana, for his own part, gives a completely different account to BOTH of Sysphus's versions in a couple PMs to me. eg:

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Hi JJZZ,

I am sorry. I had no idea if you were still interested in playing Sad I took the first 6 that said yes. To be honest i have never heard sysy say he didnt like you.

It was kind of a last minute thing for me to be a captain. If you care to play some games please let me know Smile Again I am sorry that I did not hear from you sooner.

Have a great evening. Thank you for the PM.

Smiles,
Tyrana

I found (and still find) this explanation completely satisfactory, and I also appreciate the comments from a couple other members of that team that they would have been happy as teammates. My understanding from Tyrana, and an earlier expl by Sys, is that Sys never forwarded my PM to hime with my 2nd confirmation I wanted to play. So Tyrana had no idea I was still interested, and since he already had enough players, he didn't have any need to try to find out.

I don't really know what the deal is with Sysyphus, why he's compelled to lie (true, I can only suppose he's the one lying here & not Tyrana, but I do know there is at least one other lie, his claim he sent PMs to top US players asking if they wanted to play NC; I did not get one). But life's too short to try to figure out people like Julien. I'm sure he's a nice guy to people he likes. And I'm just as sure that I'm not one of them

Peace. Let's put this aside & move on. It's aestablished you don't like me, and ... well, at this point I don't like you much either. But let's not air the dirty laundry in public & suck everyone else into it, OK Julien?

Hmm. I did not see this until now, until someone not directly involved asked me if I was mad that Sysyphus personally, actively sabotaged my effort to play in the NC for USA.

I guess you were super interested in playing since you haven't read that thread at all. Registration was not close at the time of my last message in there...

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My immediate reaction was that I was stunned any of this was even public. In asking how that came to be, I learned of this post by him. Took me a few days to get around to looking for it, but now I have.

Why did it go public ?
We had a discussion by pm, but you chose to put me on your ignore list...
So I offered you an answer in this thread so that you have a full version of what happened...
Because I was on your ignore list, you could not also read that message in the forum. And you chose to not listen to what I had to say.

So I was not the one who stopped communication here...

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It seems however the other party in the disagreement did want to air the dirty laundry, I now see.

Talking about stuff that happened 5 months is probably way better !

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because he continued insulting me in it,

Since you like to publish pm, where are the insults you are talking about ?

Tyrana said:

To be honest i have never heard sysy say he didnt like you.

Well we had deep communication with Tyrana about you, tons of insults apparently !
That sucks that Tyrana is involved with that. She is a she btw, and she answered to your request.
It has never crossed your mind that she was trying to be nice to you ? That she found a nice way to tell you that she was not interested in playing with you...

To show your interest, you could also have contacted Tyrana right ?
You could have also been more vocal in that thread right ?

We had 3 American teams, but nobody offered you a spot ?
When we know that blubes is happy to welcome all the edgy players in his team, we can also wonder why nobody was interested in playing with you...
Nothing prevents you from building your own team with all the buddies you're talking about !

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I don't really know what the deal is with Sysyphus, why he's compelled to lie (true, I can only suppose he's the one lying here & not Tyrana, but I do know there is at least one other lie, his claim he sent PMs to top US players asking if they wanted to play NC; I did not get one).

Yes I claimed that. When I'm looking for top players, top is defined by your ttr skills, but also by the behavioral standards you promote. And sorry, you didn't fit in those.
That said, I'm no captain of ALL the US teams. Any captain could have hired you in their teams, but nobody did, especially that you were part of the list of players eligible for Nation Cup.
Moreover, JZZ could have signed up for a Transnational Team if he wanted to play NC, and he didn't do it either.
I didn't see any support for JZZ in this thread nor in the competitive thread... nobody complained about this either.
I don't mind being a "bad guy", if JZZ wants me to be one, but please stop thinking I'm the only one responsible for your non-participation to tournaments.

And please know that nothing prevents you from playing a tourney, especially if you have that many buddies. But nothing prevents me from setting standards for players who are likely to play with me, or for players who will be part of teams that I help set up.

I don't think like you, I didn't expect someone to misrepresent themselves to my face that I'm welcomed, while having (according to you) entirely different conversations behind my back to actively prevent it.

BTB Sysyphus wrote on Thu, 31 January 2013 18:25

So I was not the one who stopped communication here...

No dispute, it was me that wanted to cease communication with you, once you told me you intervened to prevent me being on a team. I never said otherwise. Can anyone else reading the above post by Julien, not understand why I'd want to stop communication?

In hindsight I will agree with you about one thing: I should not have responded to this earlier today when I found it. I guess it just blew my mind that you are this big a bully, that you went after me in public after I used "ignore" to stop you from continuing to do it in private. And to think all this, 100% of it, comes from your upset over my "great crime" of playing ipad players too often for your tastes for two weeks in early 2012. "Oh, the humanity!"