Overopulation: An inevitable disaster an the verge of arriving

If 6 billion people are not enough, how many are? Do you agree that at some point, with the current growth rate, the earth will be overpopulated?
After all, the space we have is limited. So are most of our resources.

And what will happen when the earth will become overpopulated? What if that's a tipping point, would you want people to die/starve in their millions?
Hm, wait, that's already happening now...

We do indeed have enough food today to feed 6 billion people. The calories that we grow would be sufficient. But nearly 1 billion people are suffering
from starvation, because of poor distribution of resources. Who's to say that by the time we reach 10 billion we would be able to solve all the
problems we have right now and sustain everyone?

If there is enough space and enough food to feed everyone, then why are people all over the world abandoning the country side and flocking to the
cities? 1 billion people today live in slums. 1 billion! That's one in every six citizens of the world! And the number is constantly growing.

My point is that, even if what you're saying is true, and overpopulation is a myth, we can't sustain everyone now and we sure won't be able to
sustain everyone when overpopulation will cease to be a myth and become reality. And we can't rely on solutions that we don't have right now and we
might never have.

Overpopulation is certainly not a myth, there are countries and territories that are heavily overpopulated, mostly in Africa and Asia. But global
overpopulation is a myth, because there are also quite underpopulated areas and countries.

Good points, I agree. Even if we have the theoretical (not practical!) capability to feed all people in the world, that doesnt mean LOCAL
overpopulation is a myth, because of poor distribution. We should try to limit the unsustainable population growth in those areas (by peaceful means
of course) as much as we can (in addition to making distribution better), because if we wont, one day we will surely reach the tipping point, with
matematical certainty.

Water shortages, which used to be limited to the dry western states, are now a problem throughout the U.S. Even regions that once seemed to have
limitless supplies of water are facing predictions of shortages within a few years and are imposing water restrictions on residents.

Actually, lake Mead is low due to the fact that the state lost the water supply contract between Nevada and California. Also, there were a couple of
gov.t inspectors I worked with while serving in Vegas that worked on a project in Cali., that were 2 man made reservoirs, apparently the water
supplied by these huge man made reservoirs was form lake mead. Ironically after these things were built, the contract between the two states was
lost? I'll check to see if I can find valid sources for you to peruse.

Actually, lake Mead is low due to the fact that the state lost the water supply contract between Nevada and California. Also, there were a couple of
gov.t inspectors I worked with while serving in Vegas that worked on a project in Cali., that were 2 man made reservoirs, apparently the water
supplied by these huge man made reservoirs was form lake mead. Ironically after these things were built, the contract between the two states was
lost? I'll check to see if I can find valid sources for you to peruse.

Actually its so low because its normal source (snow melt and runoff) has been much lower in recent years.

There is a 50 percent chance that Lake Mead, which was created by the Hoover Dam and the Colorado River, will go dry by 2021 because of escalating
human demand and climate change, according to a study by Tim Barnett and David Pierce of the Scripps Institution of Oceanography of the University of
California at San Diego.

The water is going down because the Colorado River runoff over the last decade starting in 1998 has been far below normal.

In 2000, for example, the runoff was only 56 percent of normal. The runoff has continued to be well below normal. Because of this decreased runoff,
Lake Mead has received only slightly more than the minimum required amount of water from the Upper Basin

Originally posted by SaturnFX
There is alot of conjecture in the overpopulation argument.
I used to be a firm believer in overpopulation until I did a bit of math and study, realizing that it appears more a myth to drive up food property
prices synthetically by creating a false crisis.

I will say that there is a great mismanagment of resources in the world that is causing all sorts of problem, but that is not because of
overpopulation verses corporatist greed and the nations corporations own to propagate both the false crisis, and the continued exploitation of
resources.

As with all things...follow the money.

As far as a nice clear example of how this supposed crisis is, consider a quick example

3 people live in a lush forest with ripe fruit and animals.
3 other people live in a bone dry desert, with barely any food
over time, 1 person dies from starvation in the desert...
Does this mean the world cannot support 6 people...or does it suggest a desert cannot support 3 people, but the world itself could support potentially
hundreds if the resources were not mismanaged? (example..simplified.)

Its not overpopulation, and its not even overconsumption...it is mismanagment and false crisis propaganda by the few that hold the worlds resources.

AND a false rationale for Eugenics Policies, designed to control uppity individuals and populations.

The US is under populated??
Then why is it that we are running out of room for our garbage.
And why is it that we are unable to degrade our sewage as fast as it is produced.
All our waterways our polluted.
Many wells on private property are polluted.
None of our tap water is pure.

And to those of you who have viewed many miles of natural countryside….
Isn’t it beautiful?
Would you rather see mile after mile of rooftops?

And to those of you who keep repeating that tired, nonsensical trivia of “everyone in the world could stand shoulder to shoulder in Ireland or where
ever….Is that how you would like to live?

And then there are those who say that everyone in the world could have an acre in Texas or where ever.. Which is equally ridiculous and invalid as an
argument. Those who think that this is such a great idea should do the logistics.

Who would pick up the garbage? How do you dispose of your sewage?

Where would you get you food? Where do you get your water? Where would your kids go to school? Where would you work?

Where would you get your power- assuming you want electricity? Are there roads carved into the area? How many acres of Texas do all these roads
take up?

Where are go getting all the building materials for houses for these six billion + people?
Do you have airports, or do you have to drive out of Texas to find one?

Have you ever been to Texas?

Now then, on to consumerism. Why do I need more than one pair of shoes? Because I want them; I can pay for them and they are available. I have every
right to enjoy the fruits of my labor don’t I?
Are you asking me to make sacrifices for those who are not willing to govern their reproductive abilities in accordance to what they earn or according
to the ability of their land to grow the necessary food for them?

The poor who constantly need charity should not be breeding beyond their ability to provide for themselves.

.As to that food that we throw away….Do you want me to scrape my plate into some collection bin so that you can redistribute it to the needy? And
the same for the Supermarket Dumpsters. All that rotten vegetation and rotten meat…you collect it and give it to the needy.
As to the chlorine…this prevents people from eating rotten stuff and getting Sick.
Use A little analytical thought people.

There are those who want proof/sources for the effects of overpopulation……
However,
They do not give any proof or source for their contention that the Earth could support more than 6 billion.

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