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Lool, this topic reminds me one time I went out to a pub with another four dudes (two of them were work colleagues) and watch some football game... and of course, they got drunk pretty quick and since they had different club preferences, I was expecting the unavoidable hardcore "club VS club" hostilities during the game... but for my surprise they were only quite bland with that.

What came next really baffled me... for some reason (probably the beer) one of the other 2 guys started to rant that Toivonenwas the best rally driver ever!... and the other one immediately jumped to action defending Loeb like he was some kind of god! Things fired up to a no quarter duel like I've never seen before... It went from the GroupB era, to the Saxo kit car prices back in the day, regional car preparation, and many other things I can't even recall... all that stretched for hours.
The football game highlights were passing on TV but nobody gave a rats arse, the war was on!

Me and my 2 friends laughed the all time, they both didn't know a thing about rallying, and I was mind blown by all that circus "what a hell, where did all that come from?"

I thought I could get some more driver names around that deserved mention, but I really didn't say a word, the booze was too strong with those two and they were already way too fired up and reaching a critical boiling point. I had to work the next day so I just waited for one of them just storm out of it in rage... which eventually happened after a long time.

But really, I was expecting the usual hardcore lesson in football history discussion and I witnessed something completely unexpected instead. Never underestimate someone's knowledge, and will to argue (specially when drunk).

Tommi Mäkinen: "There was no option with Mitsubishi... the car was built to go flat out.... was very very difficult to drive if you drive slowly..."