Deliberations on the Regulation of Foreign Military Assistance Bill (B54-97)

09 February 1998

Meeting Summary

Meeting report

PORTFOLIO COMMITTEE ON DEFENCE

PORTFOLIO COMMITTEE ON DEFENCE

DELIBERATIONS ON THE REGULATION OF FOREIGN MILITARY ASSISTANCE BILL (B54-97)

9 FEBRUARY 1998

The meeting consisted of a clause-by-clause discussion of and voting on the proposed amendments to this Bill compiled by the Directorate Conventional Arms Control. These amendments address the issues raised during the previous meetings of the Portfolio Committee.

Mr P Groenewald suggested that the Freedom Front's proposed amendment to definition 1(iii) be accepted. Mr Marais replied that the government accepts that the definition of "mercenary" needs tightening. He proposed that paragraph 1(iii) (a) be deleted and replaced by the department's proposed amendment. Mr T Yengeni proposed acceptance on behalf of the ANC. This has been added directly after clause 1 and so clause 1 (iii) (a) will be deleted.

In answer to questions, Mr Marais said that this definition was more focused and less complex than the UN definition and consequently enforceable under South African law.

Mr T Yengeni questioned what deemed an organisation "bona fide". Mr Marais replied that the onus is on the organisation itself to determine whether the Act will apply to it or not (and avoid prosecution).

Mr N Gogotya (NP) said problems ensued where a bona fide group assists one faction of the conflict thus not relieving the plight of all civilians. Mr Wynne (departmental legal adviser) stated that in such cases, authorisation from the ministry would be necessary.

Mr P Groenewald (FF) questioned the difference between civilian and military assistance. For example, a rebel military group could be a civilian group that fights. Mr Marais stated that this must be determined in terms of the legal definition whether or not a group is combatant. This discussion was postponed.

Clause 2 was informally accepted.

A new proposal (replacing the proposed amendment ) for Clause 3 (3) was informally accepted. This being:

3 (3) (i) The Minister, in consultation with the Committee, may grant or refuse an application for approval referred to in subsection (2).

(ii) The Minister, in consultation with the Committee, may withdraw or amend an authorisation.

Mr Marais suggested inserting: prescribed "nominal" fee into Clause 3 (5) in order to cover administrative costs only and to prevent extra charging. The wording is to be re-organised by Mr Wynne and Mr Marais.

The amendment in Clause 5 (2) was accepted.

With regard to Clause 6 (1)(d) Mr P Groenewald (FF) wanted to know what constituted terrorism. Mr Wynne replied that the definition was covered in other statutes and in the UN Declaration.

There was general consensus that in Clause 7 mention should be made that fixed assets can be forfeited. This clause will be reworded to include fixed assets.

The amendments to Clause 9 and 10 were accepted.

There was a proposal by the National Party that the approval/rejection of clauses will be made in a short meeting later in the week once all the amendments have been clearly worded and typed up.

In answer to the query - is this Bill to ban mercenary activities or regulate military assistance - Mr Marais stated that this Act will regulate military assistance that is not purely mercenary. It puts the government into a position where it has to be responsible for South African activities outside its borders (for example, South African expertise used to train others).

Appendix 1:

Defence Secretariat

Directorate Conventional Arms Control

6 February 1998

MEMORANDUM

To Chairperson (NCACC)

From: F. Marais (DCAC)

SUBJECT: FOREIGN MILITARY ASSISTANCE BILL

1. The Cabinet approved the FMA Bill in April 1997.

2. The Bill was introduced to the Portfolio Committee by the Chairperson NCACC in August 1997.

3. The Portfolio Committee received submissions from the following organisations in August 1997:

The Ceasefire Campaign

Human Rights Committee of South Africa

Institute for Security Studies

Centre for Conflict Resolution

IDASA

University of the Witwatersrand

Executive Outcomes

Group for Environmental Monitoring

Urban Survival Academy

4. In summary the points made by the representative include the following:

SA should ratify / accede to the UN International Convention against the

Recruitment, Use Financing and Training of Mercenaries, also the OAU

Convention for the Elimination of Mercenarism in Africa. Any laws passed by

Parliament would therefore not be in conflict with obligations required by International Law.

The Government must decide whether Foreign Military Assistance may be performed by private organisations and / or Government Institutions in foreign countries. (Argument in favour of both cases submitted)

The Non-statutory status / authority of the NCACC as a regulatory body for Foreign Military Assistance is problematic.

The definition of Foreign Military Assistance does not adequately deal with its content. A narrower definition is required.

The Bill leaves the door open for the NCACC to sanction mercenary activities.

The Bill fails to discriminate between legitimate humanitarian and mercenary activities.

5. At a meeting in Oct 97 between Adv Kuzwayo (Def Sec), Mr A Stemmet (DFA), Mr H Radebe (SASS) and F. Marais (DCAC) the above proposals were considered against the purpose of the Bill as proposed by the Chair NCACC.

6. The amendments below address the issues raised during the previous meetings of the Portfolio Committee while retaining the basic concept of the Bill as proposed by the Chairperson.

7. The following amendments have been inserted into the Bill (in italics):

a. Ad clause 1 (iii) thereof:

The following sub-paragraph is inserted:

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(e) Action aimed at overthrowing a government or undermining the

Constitutional order; sovereignty or territorial integrity of a state.

b. Ad clause 1(iii) thereof:

The following paragraph is added after the new sub-paragraph (e), but before clause 1(iv):

but excluding bona fide humanitarian and civilian activities aimed at relieving the plight of civilians in an area of armed conflict.

c.

Ad clause 3(3) and 4(3) thereof:

The entire sub-clause has been deleted, and substituted with the following sub-clause:

The Minister; in consultation with the Committee, may grant, refuse, withdraw or amend an application for approval referred to in subsection (2), subject to such conditions as the Minister may determine.

d. Ad clause 5(2) thereof

The phrase "the Portfolio Committee on Defence of the National Assembly" has been deleted, and substituted with the following:-

... Parliament...

e. Ad clause 6(2) thereof:

The following sentence is inserted after this clause:

The Minister shall furnish the reasons within a reasonable time.

f. Ad clause 7 thereof

(i) It is recommended that the fines and imprisonment prescribed in the Bill are too lenient if one considers the proceeds gained and destruction attendant to such activities. It was thus felt that sentences should be imposed at the discretion of the court, taking into account the surrounding circumstances in which the offences were committed. It has also been suggested by a Member of Parliament at the Portfolio Committee that a

clause on forfeiture of property should also be inserted.

(ii) Thus, the present clause 7 has been converted to clause 7(l), and the phrase "exceeding one million rands or to imprisonment for a period not exceeding ten years", has been deleted and the following phrase is substituted:

or to imprisonment...

(iii) The following new sub-clause (2) is inserted:

(2) Subject to the provisions of any other law contained, a court which convicts a person of an offence under this section may declare any weapon, instrument or other article by means whereof the offence under this Act was committed or which was used in the commission of the offence, or any proceeds of the crime, forfeited to the state.

g. Ad clause 9 thereof:

The phrase "acting upon the recommendations of" has been deleted and substituted with the following phrase:

in consultation with...

h.

Ad clause 10 thereof:

The phrase "acting upon the recommendations of the Committee, may except any natural person or category of natural persons" has been deleted and substituted with the following phrase:

in consultation with the Committee, may exempt any person...

8. The above proposed amendments address many, but not all of the issues raised in the submissions. In essence the definitions remained unchanged but have been expanded to embrace some of the proposals

9 The Portfolio Committee is meeting on 9 Feb to discuss these amendments against those proposed by the other parties.

(F. MARAIS)

DIRECTOR CONVENTIONAL ARMS CONTROL

REGULATION OF FOREIGN MILITARY ASSISTANCE BILL, 1998

Add new section:

Prohibition on mercenary activity

No person may within the Republic or elsewhere recruit, use, train, finance or engage in mercenary activity.