I am a pretty good cc star at my highschool but freinds with all the football players. We kick it all the time. Just won day we had a kamanchi club for football and they asked me to come. I came out and it ended with a 2 mile run. I ran a 9:43 pretty good for me and all the football players ran 12+. They then started showing me more respect for the sport. I got two busses from my school to go down to state with me last year !http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/smile.gif|src=http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/smile.gif|border=0!.

At our school its not that bad... We have a few FB players on our team and we dont have practices on Fridays just because of the games (its our rest day)... Its really fun to tell them that I ran 5 miles this morning and will probally run a few more after school and watch their jaws open... mostly their answers are WHY! and i just say... Why not? I gets you in shape... But at our school FB and VB dominate and who cares about XC... At school they always complain that more ppl should come to their games and its like "why should we go to VB games when you guys dont even think to go to our meets"

I found that I never really had a problem with football players at university (my high school didn't have football). I find that the good football players have a respect for any and all athletes and when you actually sit and talk with them they are usually in awe of the effort that runners put in. The problem is with the 4th and 5th string guys who never play but for some reason think they're king poop. Your best bet is to just ignore them.

IMO it's because of the differences in definition of a sport. Many football players don't think of running as a sport and many runners don't think of football as a sport. It's just a game. My definition of a sport is competition in which the athlete suffers SELF INDUCED pain which is much harder to go through due to the fact that you know you can end it at anytime, but yet you keep going and pushing harder. This leads me to not think all that highly of football as a sport, but more as a fun and very respectable game. On the other hand, a football player's definition of sport may be "competition involving a team effort with scoring, fans, physical contact, and a complete necessity of victory." Because running supposedly lacks physical contact (we all know this isn't true, but it is common belief) football players who don't see all the training and pain we go through don't think too highly of running.

Well, I've been outta high school for a few years and after that the hate kind of goes away. If your all still competing in college then there's a lot of respect for each other... at least in my experience.

In high school, the track is around the football field so they seem to feel they "own" everything in the vicinity of their lovely field. My problem was always that, they would decide that even though we're doing a workout on the track and they're chugging down water doing nothing they have the right to stand in the middle of the track and not move. Sure they were good, but they were still morons.

While we have practice, it's the freshman team on the field, so they're pretty easily intimidated. If I'm on the track & they don't move, they get plowed-in pads or not. They've started to learn that if I'm charging, they better get the **** outta the way.

That reminds me. who hates the band? They're even worse than the football players-the entire band used to march right across the track while we were doin repeats b4 they moved to the parking lot. I'm pretty sure we damaged a few of the instruments belonging to the idiots who didn't move.

the band isn't so bad here, although I'd probably feel differently if they were marching over the track. I get very sick of the football team practicing by the track and being "so cool." I hate getting hit with a football during a speed workout! Some of the guys are alright as individuals but when you get them all together they are less appealing. A lot of the xc girls are liked by football players(as they should be we are so fine) but the guys don't seem to always get along quite as well. Different kinds of people. Runners: smarter(generally), a little bit quirky(in a good way), funny, laid back

Football players: high maintenance, less intelligent(again, generally. about 8 of the best freshmen are supposed to be sophmores), show offs, need recognition for everything they do

I ran XC and played baseball & football when I was in school (not too long ago). Let's face it. As sad as it may be, XC will never dethrone football as the most popular sport in America. What do many Americans do on Saturdays and Sundays? Attend or watch football games! Varsity Blues, Remember the Titans, Friday Night Lights...this is life for a massive population of high schoolers in America. XC will always remain in the shadows of American athletics behind football, baseball, and even basketball.

Doesn't mean it's an easier or less cool sport. It's just American culture. And not all footballers are cocky jocks and not all XC are shining examples either. Let's not stereotype.

Just my $0.02.

And for the record...IT IS more important to be able to out-run, out-bike, and out-swim your opponent than to be able to run a few 40-yard sprints and squat 500 pounds.

Don't worry runners......more U.S. elementary school children are playing soccer than NFL-style foot ball. This year, for the first time, the US men's team made it to soccer championship finals. In one generation, NFL-style football will be financially extinct and American boys, girls, and pros will be playing the football played by the other 96% of the world.......

FWIW: Brothers and I all played high school football, brothers played NCAA football and competed in Track and Field (mostly field - Discus, Shot, 35lb etc), I played Club Rugby (Div 3 and 4)into my 30's. Along comes my son who decides to RunXC. My youngest brothers initial reaction: XC? Thats way harder than playing football. At my highschool however, there was no hate and discontent between Football and XC. Finish line for XC was next to football practice field. On days with home meets, our coaches made sure that we (Football team) cheered home the XC runners. Gave us a break in practice and them I nice boost at the end of the race....

Im an xc runner at my school and the football players and xc runners get along pretty good I think. Most of my best friends are on the football team. mainly because I run track with them in the spring. I really don't see where football players and xc runners hate each other.

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