Indictment Charges Megaupload Site With Piracy

And political questions being asked as to how he was allowed into New Zealand in hte first place, since he had convictions in Germany:

Although the overweight, flamboyant former hacker – who legally changed his name to Dotcom from Shmitz – had convictions from his native
Germany, he was able to settle in Auckland after investing $10 million in New Zealand government bonds in 2010.

Originally posted by DaveBates
Hi all you good people, Why are the lawmakers not considering prosecutions on top file sharing companies like CNET \ C.B.S, Limewire, Microsoft,
Disney to name but a few ? who have distributed software to be able to download your favourite stuff !! Then use all this cash to pressure congress
to prosecute the very same people who use this software to download their content ??? Very strange greedy for power world eh !! I post this MUST SEE
link www.youtube.com...onecandleinthedark.blogspot.com...
Why a company such as Megaupload is chosen from one of the smaller populated countries on the planet ? be made an example of ..... and not the
biggest software and filesharing companies operating within the USA.?
kind regards Dave Bates

Your post makes me think of what I truly believe, and that is about some viruses being created by people associated with the companies that make
anti-virus software! If you think about it, what a better way to ensure your company is needed, hundreds of viruses show up all the time, just who are
the people that benefit from them? That's simple, it's the anti-virus software companies. I know Trojans are written to steal information but
'regular' viruses seem like an awful lot of work for nothing!

Is this really the message the US DOJ and White House want to be giving the day after mass, widespread protests happened concerning a fear that this
new law would be used to take down websites? Honestly, this is a big "# you" to the protestors, showing that the government already has this power
thanks to the last law they passed: ProIP (which they promised they'd never abuse).

The indictment itself is so full of hyperbole ("Mega Conspiracy") it sounds like it was written by the entertainment industry itself...

Anyway, I'm sure we'll have much more to say about all of this... but wow is the timing dumb on the government's part. Not only does it undermine
the argument for PIPA/SOPA, but it raises significant questions about whether or not the feds already have too much censorship power.

The only thing i can understand is download media that isn't available. Movies that aren't released on DVD/BR, games that aren't available (I
like MAME, nobody can expect anyone to buy hundreds of arcade boards) and so on. I do it too, otherwise i would've never seen Turkish Star Wars and
never seen anything from Smoky Mountain Wrestling. That's a whole different area. If it isn' officially available, download it.

Yeah but when they come knocking on your door to seize your computer with the files and burnt DVD s etc they don't make the distinction between what
is available in your country or not. If it's pirated , it's pirated and all they care about are the $$$ not justifications.

If that was the case the advice to people would be simple.
Only download stuff that isn't available in your country as it's then justifiable piracy.
But there isn't a lawyer I know of who could find a precedent for that case.
Cause it's seems to be zero tolerance and no excuses for it ever.
Which I must state right now is totally daft ad I agree with you that if something isn't available in hardcopy you should be able to download it.

My stance has always been if I like something after "sampling" it via download I'm a customer.
If it's rubbish it gets deleted.

This is terrible! They stole all documents, as well as all databases of all users who used megaupload EVER. Anyone that has ever downloaded a
copyrighted file over megaupload is now in the hands of the US government, and they have the right to press charges to each and everyone of you,
regardless of where you're located, so long as you used megaupload! And statistics show about 25% of the internet in fact used megaupload, so
that's alot of potentially arrested people.

on my remote server all my files sit, I remote log in to Rapid Leech and put checkboxes next to each file I wish to upload then I select the
filehosts, Rapidleech has a list of over 200 plugins for filehosting sites like 2shared/4shared/dailymotion/yousendit/adrive/novamov/etc over 200.

my podcasts I would checkbox megaupload, 2shared, mediafire, 4shared (which allows both streaming and download), and adrive then select upload.

then my remote host which is hosted off a DS3 connection uploads the checked files automatically to all the filesharing sites for me super quickly so
it doesn't come from my pc. So it's not using my bandwidth.

Rapid leech is amazing script for people with virtual hosts or colocated linux boxes. Or even for home linux boxes.

Then in minutes I had my pod casts uploaded and mirrored to 10 or more different file sharing sites and all I did was copy and paste links for each
service. So if 1 link died there were 9 more. And if all links died I just told Rapid Leech script to reupload for me.

easy peasy. Rapid Leech makes it where you dont have to go to the file sharing website to upload your file, it's a script that does it all for you so
you never see the site it just gives you the links when finished.

Like they are going to care about that, they didn't even wait for the laws to be passed to do what they did. People, if you want to do something,
its going to have to be in person - not some internet petition.

From what I've read, there are also legitimate and legal uses of MU, which is really upsetting to me. I am an "open source" advocate, FSF, all
that, but I've been been around before the internet was created.

Alot of people have tossed around analogies, so here is mine:

One member of a banking institution is embezzling money, so they shut down the whole bank, and all the members suffer because they can't access their
money. It's OVERKILL. It's a message, and that is all. I read through threads here, and have read all 17 pages so far. Alot of the discussion
has me incensed, but I was gone for about a week from ATS, and I come back to this. ARGH!

As facts have it, MU is back in action, using the .bz country code for it's TLD. bz is the country code for Belize, Brazil, and you are still able
to access your account if you change the .com to .bz. Hope that helps. Being an IT geek, I see what happened, and how MU activated it's backup
servers. Smart people. Always keep a backup.

To research the whois on a ccTLD (country code Top Level Domain), you need to go to uwhois.com (the universal whois) to find out information. Of
course, none is listed, as you need to research by ip address, and that particular section belongs to Brazil.

See, the government can shut down a .com, easy peasy, just by blocking a dns record. Blocking country codes is a totally different story. The topic
of imminent domain, airspace, and sovereign rights now come into play. Is Brazil playing political asylum? Is this about politics, or about piracy?
Hasn't MU been in business for years?

All MU had to do was change dns records to point to a new nameserver, as easy peasy as editing a simple text file.

Like as has been said, take one down, 5 more take it's place. Better yet, take one down, and the victim can just change the dns records. I'm
grabbing my popcorn. This will be interesting.

Like they are going to care about that, they didn't even wait for the laws to be passed to do what they did. People, if you want to do something,
its going to have to be in person - not some internet petition.

First of all I believe that laws like SOPA are dangerous. It gives too much power to a group with very limited oversight. That being said it
outrages me the number of you that pontificate about how you are not stealing movies or music you are sampling, or that it is your belief that you are
entitled to these things or they are too expensive because of blah blah blah. I have never used Mega Upload but from the descriptions provided by
most of you on this thread it would have a legitimate use, but the problem with open internet is the fools that squander it. If these kinds of sites
were generally used for the free flow of original thought and not the flow of something as trivial as pirated entertainment it would not have been an
issue. Your not using the internet for open exchange of ideas. You are not researching. From the sounds of it there are a lot of you don't want
to pay for your music or want to say that you have seen every movie that has come out this year but don't make enough money to buy them. If you
believe that the product that is produced is not worth paying for maybe you really don't need it. We as a world society are not entitled to these
things. I understand there are movies that you wont enjoy, songs on that new album that you think is fluff between singles, but there are others that
like that fluff. There are some that like the movies that you do not. If you don't like a movie then I am sorry. Move on. If you can't afford to
take the chance of purchasing a movie that might not like then just rent it. This is why society is in decline. The world is full of people who
believe that these things are owed to them. People who believe that they should have a great job, live in a large house, drive a new car, own the
fanciest whatever and even be entertained. In the past people worked hard and even had to fight for their rights to even dream of having these
things. If you want these things then be willing to go out and earn it.

SWIM is pi$$ed... SWIM doesn't have a MU account or any other acount for file sharing. But SWIM has a cracked PSP 3000 with CFW that can play games
ranging from NES to PSX to PSP. SWIM has only used the free downloads and has downloaded games that usually were over 10+ years old. Considering these
games aren't available for purchase anymore because they are so old why is it illegal to dl them? I mean prescription drugs have a 10 year patent
before other companies can start pumping out generic pills of the same chemical for dirt cheap. So if SWIM's games aren't available for retail and
are 10+ years old and the original companies aren't making or selling the games anymore couldn't SWIM consider that it's "patent" has expired and
therefore is available for download? This is really frustrating to my friend SWIM. >:-\

Originally posted by arwefree
This is terrible! They stole all documents, as well as all databases of all users who used megaupload EVER. Anyone that has ever downloaded a
copyrighted file over megaupload is now in the hands of the US government, and they have the right to press charges to each and everyone of you,
regardless of where you're located, so long as you used megaupload! And statistics show about 25% of the internet in fact used megaupload, so
that's alot of potentially arrested people.

so the feds are going to go after a billion people are they ?

if there were to go after any users then it would be the people who uploaded 'stuff' to MU because you had to have a account, so they have a lot
more data on the uploaders, just think how many people downloaded a particular file, it could be thousands they will go for the easy option of the
single uploader than go after a thousand people in a hundred different countries, people in China, Russia, France & Switzerland won't extradite
people to the USA & the rest of the people in the other EU countries will go to the EU court saying that they cannot be extradited to the USA because
of the torture issues & that other people like the ones in Russia, China etc are not being sent over there, furthermore it will also depend on where
the server was located that the file you downloaded was hosted & the chances are that most of the servers in the USA served people in the USA both
uploading & downloading.

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