I too prefer Ellen to Newton, mostly because her photos are just more aesthetic in my eyes. But both seem to be more often... somewhat sensitive conceptual artists. While composition is most important for me, because I'm just too dumb to sit around and think about how a woman is being portrayed. I have Newton's "Sex and Landscapes" book, and I just find that his landscapes are more beautifully photographed.

I understand what you guys are saying about Newton's fantasy image of women. But I see Ellen's fantasy women too. Maybe a lot of photographers do this. I don't really see anything wrong with it. It's art, make-believe. The difference between them I think though, is that Ellen's photographs are more alive.

thank you for your scans justadreamer... but could you please credit them a bit further as outline in tFS guidelines?

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ScansIt is not enough to post “scanned by me”

Please add the name of the magazine/book from which the scan was made, in the case of magazines please add the publishing time(year)/month/edition,

Additionally, to help your fellow members in their searches, it would be very helpful if, in the case of editorials that you mention the name of the editorial, the photographer/stylist/make up artist/model etc that were involved in the editorial.

Ah, my apologies. I've been so used to just saying the source were my scans and seeing others do so. I shall make sure I go further from now on. As to the above post here's what I recall and can see from the scans, as I cannot find the magazine this minute and need to get to work