I didnt read every post...did someone mention Melatonin? Its the greatest thing for insomnia.Got o sleep after taking 3mg and youll fall asleep and it will help you set your natural sleep cycle. Unlike sleeping pills its non-toxic and doesnt "zonk you out"...it puts you to sleep the natural way...just with more melatonin than your body normally has.

Ive been getting alot more sleep recently because ive been skating everyday as hard as i can, i think this really helps because im nackared as i go to sleep, this is quite hard to do all the time though. sorry, other than drugs i dont have any other tips though.

I wonder if this “Ham-sa” means something… In some eastern tradition or what… Or is it just a set of sounds? It’s kind of difficult to concentrate on something you don’t understand what it is. I read somebody famous said he repeated the word “Cicero” to fall asleep…
About radio static and music, and all such things… I think it can really help. But it seems to work differently for different people. For example, when I hear two neighbors’ children running here and there above my head, I always feel like sleeping, while my mother cannot stand this sound and cannot fall asleep, when they run above _her_ bedroom… But special sleep-inducing noises from Neural Noise Synthesizer never worked with me, probably because of the headphones…
By the way, what strange statistics about 8 minutes… Maybe, it was an instruction for super-agents or something… Or the time, which passes from the moment of the beginning to fall asleep till the state of deep sleep, regardless of how long it took to get to this moment…

I wonder if this “Ham-sa” means something… In some eastern tradition or what… Or is it just a set of sounds? It’s kind of difficult to concentrate on something you don’t understand what it is. I read somebody famous said he repeated the word “Cicero” to fall asleep…

You could most likely use any word. If it has a sing-songy sound it might work better. What it does is help put you into a trance. It is always easier to fall asleep from a trance as you body is often very relaxed.

I fall asleep in the car all the time, coming home from school today I fell asleep in the car for like 5 mintues...it's only like a 5 minute ride really but still. It always takes me over a half-hour to fall asleep in a bed though, not sure why that is but it's annoying sometimes.

I can't seem to keep a schedule. I'll never find another job if I can't wake before 4PM. Worst of all, it's limiting my dream potential.

Besides severely drugging yourself, are there any good cures for insomnia? I tried melatonin, but that made it worse. Diphenhydramine kills my dreams. I don't even want to get into prescription sleep aids. I tried various foods and relaxation techniques. Nothing.

I want my dreams back. I want my *** time back, too, if I ever mean to be successful. Dammit.

I had lots of trouble from insomnia and i tried many stuff except taking medication... and the only thing that worked (and worked very well for me), was keeping healthy sleep habits: only use the bed for sleep, and always go to bed at the same time, and always get up at the same time, even on weekends. Give it a try. If it doesn't work, then maybe you should see a specialist?
Good luck

Find out what hinders you to fall asleep and try to eliminate that. You must keep in mind that your body will take care of your sleep, as soon as your mind steps out of the way. you don't have to do anything to sleep but you can do alot to keep you from sleeping. Most important: DO NOT think about sleep!!!!

BTW I had terrible insommina for a year, I know what I'm talking about....

1. Lay down in bed early, and practice using a WILD method. I find a lot of hidden fatigue will come up, especially if you can't sleep for very long even though you get up at 4pm. Either you'll be successful and get into an LD, or you'll become tired enough to just fall asleep.

2. Stay up for the whole day. Yes, it will be agonizing, but if you can make it to at least 4-6pm, then you'll be going to bed and getting up much earlier. From there, you'll only have a few hours to adjust if you want to go to bed at 9 or 10pm.

I recommend a freezing cold shower when it's becoming unbearable to stay up any longer. Don't use caffeine... you're trying to cure insomnia, not make it worse.

If I were you I'd excerises every day or something, to tire myself out. I'd go for walks, swim, lift weights, anything like that. Also using your brain for things like reading can tire you out very nicely. I'd stay away from drugs altogether, they just limit your REM sleep, which isn't good at all for lucid dreaming.