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It was not his choice. And his promise is still strong, if Seby will turn him into human again, Ciel's soul is his. Ciel didn't lie.

I'm not disappointed with the character itself, but rather with the creators for making it this way. I guess I was just hoping for it to end according to the contract Sebastian and Ciel made, or at least with something more original.

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Originally Posted by Kakkou

Also, no more Kuroshitsuji. This season was unnecessary enough as it was so I hope Aniplex has enough and doesn't even think about another one. On the plus side, seeing Ronald Knox made me a little interested in checking out the manga now. Yes, not Ciel, not Sebastian, not Grell, not the servants, not the plot, but Ronald Knox XP.

I would actually like it if they made a new Kuroshitsuji that would stick with the manga like they did for FMA, but I doubt this will be happening. As for Ronald Knox, his apparition (and William's) was one of the only few things I really appreciated in this season.

I would actually like it if they made a new Kuroshitsuji that would stick with the manga like they did for FMA, but I doubt this will be happening. As for Ronald Knox, his apparition (and William's) was one of the only few things I really appreciated in this season.

They could always do those manga bundled OVAs that are all the rage these days. Just pick up where the anime completely diverged and make the manga readers happy or something. That's the only future I could see in a Kuroshitsuji animation.

When I first heard of Kuroshitsuji II last year, I thought how the staff was going to bring both Ciel and Sebastian back, since the closing scene from the first anime's ending clearly showed Sebastian about to reap his deserved reward from Ciel.

I never expected that the manga author was involved at creating the characters Alois Trancy and Claude Faustus as the leads for the sequel. However, I can imagine that move from the producers made the fanbase to go nuts and bananas, because each and everyone of us wanted to see both Ciel and Sebastian again.

The first half of this season's first episode seemingly proved that Alois and Claude would be leads. Gosh, even the opening video for the first episodes showcased at that too.

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Until, Sebastian revealed himself and escaped with the ring to bring back Ciel, sleeping inside the trunk.

It wasn't until the fifth and sixth episode that the mystery got resolved as to what happened at the very end of the first season.

Someone commented at this thread that Alois was just a pretty weak character that would never stand to Ciel's league, and that Claude was a seeming copycat compared to Sebastian, and a lowgrade at that too, as Sebastian added further insult in the first episode.

Honestly, I was fooled at believing that this season would have dealt about both Alois and Claude, but they were just the setup or the springboard to catapult both Ciel and Sebastian back to the story, as per popular demand from the fans.

The biggest suprise was Claude's twist at the end of the seventh episode.

Claude was just a demon.

Alois at the beginning of this season was the most psychotic child; even still that eye-plucking scene cringes my skin.

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But to me, Alois to an extent was a pitiable boy.

He just wanted to be loved, and his foster little brother Luka provided him with that.

That's what makes Ciel even cooler in this season, because Ciel forfeit all kinds of human emotions including love for the sake of his personal revenge, and even when he attained his revenge, after recovering his memories, he rebuffed at the idea of getting love believing his curse would end with Sebastian eating his soul.

Anna had the hardest time coping with Alois (Jim)'s abuse but did so for Luka's sake, because Aloi's soul still clinged to the traces left from Luka's soul, and Luka's soul was the first for Anna to be thanked for after the contract was fulfilled.

I do not believe that at his deathbed Claude refer specifically to Alois or the Trancy for that matter, since his voice faded out the moment he spoke the name, thus delivering an ambiguous line about being whose butler.

Maybe Anna lied to Alois (Jim) to give him some measure of comfort that Claude at the end, truly acknowledged his former master's soul.

The ending turned to be both a happy and twisted ending.

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Happy for both Jim and Luka and Hanna, because for the brother's loneliness and unhappiness and everything bad that happened to me was their curse.

Hanna either using Claude or taking advantage of Claude's mess for Alois's soul to be deposited within Ciel's body became the first step in a long way to finally making the contract with Alois at the end of the eleventh episode.

Whatever the case, what Hannah did for Alois allowed him to receive love; the contract fulfilled, his soul was released. Although Hannah gets to devour Alois's soul, he gets reunited with Luka within herself, and while Claude did not deserve it, he anyways goes in with the three of them to the voyage from eternity to onwards, since Alois felt some degree of attachment to Claude, at the end.

For Sebastian it was not a happy ending, but a twisted and unexpected ending that favored Ciel.

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Regardless, whose butler would have won, none of them would get Ciel's soul.

Alois last contents of the contract was for Ciel to be reborn a demon should a winner be decided, so all the parties involved would feel the same loneliness, misery, and frustration he felt when he was unloved and unneeded to some extent.

However, what Alois did not expect until talking to Ciel was that the latter made it clear that he repulsed and rebuffed at the idea of getting and receiving love even if his contract with Sebastian was fulfilled after attaining revenge.

I feel sorry for Sebastian, since he did not get what he loved more than crave the most to taste his young master's soul, because Ciel once becoming a demon his human soul became voided. And what's more, Sebastian is binded eternally to demon-Ciel for infinity, because at the labyrinth's race Ciel previously ordered Sebastian to be his butler until his soul gets eaten to which Sebastian complied with a "yes".

I have to be honest, the very ending sequence for this season was exquisitely performed and runs in par with the first season's ending closure.

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From when the credits started to roll until Sebastian carries demon-Ciel with his arm and lunge forward to beyond.

That was truly haunting but magnificient.

The only thing that I did not get was:

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What Ciel did to Elizabeth or what happened to Elizabeth at the mansion?
Right after the music started to fading...

If this series ever continues, I expect (hope) they will wait for the manga to finish and pull an FMA:Brotherhood type of sequel. Even if they just pick up from where the first season split off from the source.

Oh well, it has been a fun cracky ride to say the least. I'm quite easy to please if there is fanservice, so I usually don't really mind the plot that much, but I felt like this season was such a huge downgrade from the first. They tried to bring more comedy in to make up for the lack of a plot, which would have been fine had this been any other show, just not Kuroshitsuji. It just felt rushed and all over the place, a "clusterfuck" like somebody has already mentioned. I actually liked the ending, but the way they made Ciel a demon made no sense whatsoever. They just pulled that one straight out of their asses. But still, the result was good, Ciel the demon and Seby the demon's demon butler, huh.

But if I recall correctly, Ciel ordered Sebastian to "hurry up and eat his soul". At least I think he ordered him. But if he did, then that's what makes me lost. If Sebastian goes against orders, then he isn't Ciel's butler anymore, right? So since Sebastian can't eat Ciel's soul, he disobeyed Ciel's order, therefore freeing himself from the contract with Ciel. Right?

I actually liked the ending, but the way they made Ciel a demon made no sense whatsoever. They just pulled that one straight out of their asses. But still, the result was good, Ciel the demon and Seby the demon's demon butler, huh.

I actually thought it was a fitting ending considering all of the
plotting to get ciels soul by sebastian and claude and ciel wanting to be devoured by sebastian. In the end alois denied everyone else from getting what they wanted

Sadly, I can´t quite follow why some say it´s such a boring and predictable end.

I knew Sebastian was probably ending up with an empty stomach, but the way they did it...was just epic.
Seriously, they shed a lot of light onto a demon life. Demons being "dead inside" because of their immortality and thus being driven into madness by tasting a drug called Ciel like Claude (to some extent Sebastian too) or adapting feelings towards an innocent child (Hannah).

Alois Trancy seriously had one crapload of a life and it ended like that...thankfully Hannah was there and now he is the one who gets to "live" happily with his little brother, Hannah - the demon who finally found happiness and Claude - the demon who realized that the thing he was hunting for was allready in his hands but he lost it thanks to Ciel.

So in the end, the only ones that truly have to suffer are Ciel, who now bears the cross of immortality and all the hardships that come alongside the demonbeing (like not being able to taste "normal" food as was mentioned by Sebastian) and Sebastian who now has to serve another demon as his underling, for all eternity, never being able to the devour the soul he longed for.

It´s a great ending for all those who liked Alois/his little brother, as well as Hannah and Claude, since they are now united for all eternity, but also for the Ciel/Sebastian fans, seeing as this could hint an open end for more OVAs/another seasons, as well as many possible fanfictions.

Great work. Though opinions differ, so I´m not critizising anyone for his takes on this season, but personally I really liked it.