googled 'texas prison horses' call a Dustin at 281 673 5217 for info on prison horses. Brands on left shoulder are a star and a single digit. left hip if it was bred at the prison and thats the prison studs number. and left butt is for the unit it was used on..

For anyone wanting to know about texas prison horses... do not call that number. That is not Dustin. He's a very nice southern man, but he's not Dustin and the only thing he knows about prisons is to stay out of them LOL.

You pretty much covered what 'kill pen' refers to. At Candiac and Yorkton SK there are two buyers that everyone knows buy any horses that don't get bid on. They also buy for other people. You'll see them on the phone and describing a horse to someone. Not everything they buy goes to the feed lots.
Now, on the other hand, there are people (like the people who raised Ruby) who don't even give the horse a run through the auction. They were shipping 30 plus head of QH, Paint, Appy, and Morgan cross horses straight to the kill pen. Perfectly fine horses that just needed a bit of time to get gentle.

I figure if a girl wants to be a LEGEND, she should just go ahead and be one. ~Calamity Jane

thanks for excusing my ignorance and explaining what a kill pen is.
i doubt that the numbered brands on either of our mares will ever be proven to belong to a ranch.
As someone has posted those numbers probably relate who the mares are by and what year they were foaled.
Just seems odd that both of us have mares sold through an auction near Dallas and branded with numbers instead of ranch inspired brands. Both foaled and look very similar.
glad both of them are safe and have good homes. Shalom

thanks for excusing my ignorance and explaining what a kill pen is.
i doubt that the numbered brands on either of our mares will ever be proven to belong to a ranch.
As someone has posted those numbers probably relate who the mares are by and what year they were foaled.
Just seems odd that both of us have mares sold through an auction near Dallas and branded with numbers instead of ranch inspired brands. Both foaled and look very similar.
glad both of them are safe and have good homes. Shalom

You should e-mail me or add me on facebook if you can, I'd love to see pictures of her!
I'll PM you!

I am not from Texas, but it is very common to number brand our breeding stock here. Usually the buttock brand is done when they are babies (it is definitely a seven, and possibly it is a year brand). Number brands on hips and shoulders are usually only done to brood mares. That would explain why she hasn't been handled. Number branding is more common with fairly big breeders - in the US that would be a fairly certain sign that she is a Quarter Horse. Or Paint ... but you already assume that ...

The ranch brand is, unfortunately, not very good readable - however, there must have been a brand inspection when she was sold, I am surprised that this is not available? I do not see two waves but a "quarter circle holding water" over ... lazy lightning bolt? Do you possibly have a close up of the hip brand?

Whereever she comes from - looks like a VERY nice horse, you did well!

Thank you very much! I always have to almost laugh when people compliment her, or me on finding her, because I really didn't buy her on any standards except I managed to get her to sniff me twice in one day. The quarter circle holding water is interesting..as is the lazy lightning bolt. It's amazing how just two lines can be explained so many different ways, and also a headache lol. It's worse than abstract art.
I have no way whatsoever of getting her brand inspection papers, because it's also muddy water whether she came from a kill pen at an auction, or a group of horses being sold directly to a kill buyer. So it's hard to even know if they exist.
I don't know if I have a close up, but I can see what I can find..and if not, maybe I can use the originals of the pictures I posted to bring it in a little more (the originals are huge)

I didn't find any actual close ups of it, and they're 2 hours away + fuzzy winter coats, so I won't be able to get any close ups until spring.. but here are some other views of it, when I first got her, that might show it a little clearer.

Okay guys,
I think I did it. I went through county by county in the texas brand registry, and e-mailed every ranch in every county that I found something similar. I didn't e-mail the ranch she came from, but I DID find someone who knew the guy I was looking for.
I haven't talked to him yet, but he's Larry Holder of Holder Quarter Horses in Knox City, TX. Looking at all the horses pictured on the site, they all have the number in the same spot on the shoulder and the butt, and only one number on the shoulder. There's also at least one horse (beware, they're terrible quality)
where you can see the wavy things. I'm still not sure what they're called...but it's the only thing I've seen so far that looks identical.
And guess what guys, ALL his horses are registered.
I was also told, if I could just get her registered name (or hopefully her number), I can call the AQHA and ask them for an Application for Duplicate Registry for a lost registration. So I could get her papers. Now. I just have to muster up the courage to call him. I wish he did e-mail, but he seems like the old gruff and tough cowboy who probably doesn't even know how to use a computer lol

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