Gulliver, this is a thread for complaining about stuff. We all need to just vent once in a while. Better to do it here than to peoplens faces. Gymclasszero is complaining about someone who acts superior, not about someone who is simply taking a few steps in the right direction.

Fair point, sorry!

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One guy was passing the elephants, he suddenly stopped, confused by the fact that these huge creatures were being held by only a rope tied to their legs. It was obvious that the elephants could, at anytime, break away from the ropes they were tied to but for some reason, they did not. He saw a trainer nearby and asked why these beautiful, magnificent animals just stood there and made no attempt to get away.

"Well", trainer said, "when they are very young and much smaller we use the same size rope to tie them and at the age, its enough to hold them, as they grow up, they are conditioned to believe they cannot break away. they believe the rope can still hold them, so they never try to break free." He was amazed. These animals could at any time break free from their bonds but because they believed they couldn't, they were stuck right where they were. Their powerful and gigantic creature has limited its present abilities by the limitations of its past.

Like the elephants, how many of us go through life holding onto a belief that we cannot do something, simply because we failed at it once before? how many of us refuse to attempt something new and challenging because of our so called MINDSET?

Your attempt may fail, but never fail to make an attempt...CHOOSE not to accept the false boundaries and limitations created by the past...

Um, WHAT??? No. An animal who has had its spirit broken and has been beaten into submission is absolutely not the same thing as a person who doesn't believe in their abilities based on past failures. I have a lot more to say about this stupid thing but I'm totally inarticulate at the moment except to say it's gross, offensive, and callous.

Here's a truly vegan pet peeve: You've sniffed the soy milk (smells fine), given it a good shake, and when you pour it, globby little clumps plop out into your coffee/tea/cereal. *shudder*

I went through a period when every time I poured soy milk (no matter the type or brand) it either had icky flakes in it or clumps of gooey stuff. Thank goodness that seems to have ended *knock on wood* because I thought I'd have to give up cereal and milk.

When I am in the store and they do not move the conveyor belt in line and the clerk puts my food down right were seconds ago there was meat and meat slop is still on the line. I put my food back, I get crazy looks when I say can you wipe down/move the line for food allergies please. Meat-blood and slime is like a bacteria ground...I have OCD so I am paranoid but I just think that it is gross.

When I am in the store and they do not move the conveyor belt in line and the clerk puts my food down right were seconds ago there was meat and meat slop is still on the line. I put my food back, I get crazy looks when I say can you wipe down/move the line for food allergies please. Meat-blood and slime is like a bacteria ground...I have OCD so I am paranoid but I just think that it is gross.

But... isn't food in stores supposed to be like, wrapped? In something that doesn't let it leak all over the place?

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When I am in the store and they do not move the conveyor belt in line and the clerk puts my food down right were seconds ago there was meat and meat slop is still on the line. I put my food back, I get crazy looks when I say can you wipe down/move the line for food allergies please. Meat-blood and slime is like a bacteria ground...I have OCD so I am paranoid but I just think that it is gross.

But... isn't food in stores supposed to be like, wrapped? In something that doesn't let it leak all over the place?

I used to work checkouts and I certainly got greasy hands when people bought stuff like pre-roast chickens and it stunk when people bought wrapped fish, I'm pretty sure it's not all securely wrapped! We weren't allowed to wipe anything down or anything unless there was a major spillage and we had to call in cleaners.

No. An animal who has had its spirit broken and has been beaten into submission is absolutely not the same thing as a person who doesn't believe in their abilities based on past failures. I have a lot more to say about this stupid thing but I'm totally inarticulate at the moment except to say it's gross, offensive, and callous.

I just don't even know what to say....wow.

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tomorrow is my husband's work Xmas party and it's a sit down dinner at a restaurant.im pretty psyched because i think i will be well fed.the restaurant has a vegetarian menu you can request and based on what it has on it online i see 2 vegan options.they have 2 different ravioli choices which im just assuming have cheese and then:•asian vegetable stir fry; stir fry of fresh seasonal

vegetables; finished with a scallion ginger soy sauce; served over japanese sticky rice

and:•roasted shitakes; served with sticky rice; wasabi,

caramelized soy & pickled ginger

it's the same restaurant we went to last year and i believe i got the shiitake dish last year and it was really good so i think i will try the stir fry this year.

i guess this isnt a pet peeve post!my own office xmas party is later in the week and im totally petrified for that one.

The thing about those conveyor belts is that no matter how often you clean them, they are NEVER clean. I was a cashier for a couple years, and it used to make me cringe whenever well-meaning people would put their produce directly on the belt, unbagged. I totally support saving plastic, but I wouldn't want to eat anything that came into direct contact with those belts. I strongly suggest using your own reusable produce bags if you don't want to use plastic.

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Inspired by a truly revolting PETA ad: it really bothers me when vegans call eggs "chicken periods" or cow's milk "breast milk." I mean, periods are kinda gnarly and I'm certainly not about to drink someone's breast milk, but I don't appreciate normal functions of female bodies being used as a gross-out factor.

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Inspired by a truly revolting PETA ad: it really bothers me when vegans call eggs "chicken periods" or cow's milk "breast milk." I mean, periods are kinda gnarly and I'm certainly not about to drink someone's breast milk, but I don't appreciate normal functions of female bodies being used as a gross-out factor.

I hadn't been able to put into words why this bugged me so much but I think this is it. It's too close to 'these things are gross because ew girl parts' for my liking.

Also that you shouldn't need to think that the items themselves are gross in order to understand the reasons why it's problematic to consume them... There's nothing wrong with thinking they're gross, or choosing not to eat them because you find them gross! But falling back on squick factor seems like a cop-out compared to, say, talking about veal or battery cages or runoff.

yesterday i almost crashed the car when i saw a sign that said "VEGETABLES AND VEGAN SPACE"; i threw the car into a parking space and literally ran across the street. the store was a place that sold some veggies, and lo and behold had many different types of breads! the sales clerk wasn't vegan, didn't seem to really understand what it was (sadface) but the baker is apparently vegan. upside: vegan bread! vegan bread!downside: bread and cake are the things that i really, really have under control. could we maybe have a place that sells vegan chocolate? vegan lunches to go? vegan ice cream? vegan pizzas? le sigh.

Inspired by a truly revolting PETA ad: it really bothers me when vegans call eggs "chicken periods" or cow's milk "breast milk." I mean, periods are kinda gnarly and I'm certainly not about to drink someone's breast milk, but I don't appreciate normal functions of female bodies being used as a gross-out factor.

I hadn't been able to put into words why this bugged me so much but I think this is it. It's too close to 'these things are gross because ew girl parts' for my liking.

Also that you shouldn't need to think that the items themselves are gross in order to understand the reasons why it's problematic to consume them... There's nothing wrong with thinking they're gross, or choosing not to eat them because you find them gross! But falling back on squick factor seems like a cop-out compared to, say, talking about veal or battery cages or runoff.

Yeah, the term 'chicken periods' bothers me as a gross out factor term. I also could never could pinpoint why. And technically, it isn't a period in the same manner that humans have periods. It is an unfertilized egg with nutrients. Much neater package than us humans have (and I'm jealous).

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Inspired by a truly revolting PETA ad: it really bothers me when vegans call eggs "chicken periods" or cow's milk "breast milk." I mean, periods are kinda gnarly and I'm certainly not about to drink someone's breast milk, but I don't appreciate normal functions of female bodies being used as a gross-out factor.

Exactly! Whenever I see something like "excretions from a cow" I think "I've made milk with my body, it's no more disgusting because it comes from a cow!". I mean, I like cows.

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