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Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

Originally Posted by lpast

Ok...but its not a few theres thousands and thousands and they are not trained security and teaching is their function not security...a few armed teachers is mostly useless

a few armed and TRAINED teachers in each school is far better a solution than the "ban the guns" nonsense that the anti gun politicians propose for reasons that HAVE NOTHING to do with the safety of school kids

Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

I love it when the hard right spends most the year castigating teachers as commies, panderers, lazy, socialists, who only want to subvert the bedrock principles our nation was founded on....

NOW suddenly these very same commies are going to strap-on, train-up and become armed guards as well as educators...

Doesn't make sense.

Now having a truly trained and armed presence dedicated to defending a school sounds good.

But it is alot like placing a soldier every 50 meters, out in the open with nothing between him and the 99th Mongolian Horde. They would dig in, build overhead cover, put out barbed wire and mines... harden their position.

Schools must be hardened, entries controlled, windows and vents designed to not allow them to be breached from the outside and sensors to monitor if someone tampers with them. CCTV on the outside like Walmart, and hall cameras so the administration can inform help where the badguys are.

The first indication a bad guy is present shouldn't be children and teachers being shot, it should be an attempt to breach the outer perimeter. School security shouldn't be playing catch-up surprised and blind.

Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

Originally Posted by TurtleDude

a few armed and TRAINED teachers in each school is far better a solution than the "ban the guns" nonsense that the anti gun politicians propose for reasons that HAVE NOTHING to do with the safety of school kids

Where have I said that banning guns would work ? all ive said is the opposite. There is too many problems trying to arm a few teachers, for one thing it wont work, who chooses which teachers can carry who cant, so along with educational training they now need police training commission training to be able to carry and classroom. You need security and you need cameras and someone watching the cameras from the minute the school is unlocked till the building is secured at night

Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

Originally Posted by lpast

Where have I said that banning guns would work ? all ive said is the opposite. There is too many problems trying to arm a few teachers, for one thing it wont work, who chooses which teachers can carry who cant, so along with educational training they now need police training commission training to be able to carry and classroom. You need security and you need cameras and someone watching the cameras from the minute the school is unlocked till the building is secured at night

Training teachers to be armed security guards is like training the security guard to teach.