i've been pretty inactive for the last 3 months. i cut my caloric intake to < 1700/day but am unable to lose ANY weight. i weigh the same as before i cut down. thinking about taking thermogenic fat burners. has anyone had success using these? i'm interested in the NUTREX LIPO 6. i will begin exercise along with the supplement.

i've been pretty inactive for the last 3 months. i cut my caloric intake to < 1700/day but am unable to lose ANY weight. i weigh the same as before i cut down. thinking about taking thermogenic fat burners. has anyone had success using these? i'm interested in the NUTREX LIPO 6. i will begin exercise along with the supplement.

Just go low carb. I have averaged about 3-4lbs a week. I was doing low cal before this, and while I didnt gain any weight, I didnt lose any either. It was hard giving up potato chips, pasta and bread, but once you find substitutes that you can live with, it becomes easy to stay on the diet.

All of those magic pills are bullshit. If you follow a healthy diet the pounds will just drop right off anyway.

The first and most important thing is your diet. The first thing you need to do is cut out junk food. And I don't mean chocolate, but rather pop, chips and foods with loads of empty calories.
Second, it's important to eat small meals more frequently. Usually it's best to eat 5 or 6 small meals as opposed to 3 big ones. This will seriously improve your metabolism.
Third, eat lean meats and avoid animal fats like the plague. So no Bacon. The rule of thumb for good fats is: if it's liquid at body temp, like butter, it's a good fat. If it's solid avoid it. Fish is an excellent food for protein and good fats.
Fourth, cut out grains.
The of course regular exercise.

All of those magic pills are bullshit. If you follow a healthy diet the pounds will just drop right off anyway.

The first and most important thing is your diet. The first thing you need to do is cut out junk food. And I don't mean chocolate, but rather pop, chips and foods with loads of empty calories.
Second, it's important to eat small meals more frequently. Usually it's best to eat 5 or 6 small meals as opposed to 3 big ones. This will seriously improve your metabolism.
Third, eat lean meats and avoid animal fats like the plague. So no Bacon. The rule of thumb for good fats is: if it's liquid at body temp, like butter, it's a good fat. If it's solid avoid it. Fish is an excellent food for protein and good fats.
Fourth, cut out grains.
The of course regular exercise.

Or you can acquire some willpower and eat at a caloric deficit. There is no reason nor is there any medical research backing 5-6 meals being superior to 3 large meals or even 2 large meals in an otherwise normal adult with no underlying medical condition. I incorporate chocolate, pop tarts, animal fats, and ice cream into my daily caloric intake and I'm doing just fine with my overall physique goals.

I agree that magic diet pills (outside of prescription stimulants that suppress appetite) to be largely BS.

Or you can acquire some willpower and eat at a caloric deficit. There is no reason nor is there any medical research backing 5-6 meals being superior to 3 large meals or even 2 large meals in an otherwise normal adult with no underlying medical condition. I incorporate chocolate, pop tarts, animal fats, and ice cream into my daily caloric intake and I'm doing just fine with my overall physique goals.

I agree that magic diet pills (outside of prescription stimulants that suppress appetite) to be largely BS.

i'd have to say post pics.

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Or you can acquire some willpower and eat at a caloric deficit. There is no reason nor is there any medical research backing 5-6 meals being superior to 3 large meals or even 2 large meals in an otherwise normal adult with no underlying medical condition. I incorporate chocolate, pop tarts, animal fats, and ice cream into my daily caloric intake and I'm doing just fine with my overall physique goals.

I agree that magic diet pills (outside of prescription stimulants that suppress appetite) to be largely BS.

he wasn't saying eating 5-6 smaller meals vs eating 3 large meals is 'superior' or make him magically lose weight.

he was stating that it will help speed his metabolism up, which is true.

he wasn't saying eating 5-6 smaller meals vs eating 3 large meals is 'superior' or make him magically lose weight.

he was stating that it will help speed his metabolism up, which is true.

My nutrition Prof compared eating small and large meals to a woodchipper in regards to you metabolism.
If you throw small branches in, the chipper, will not slow down very much. However, when you throw a log in there it slows way down.

In regards to it being better, this is subjective to the person since no one is physiologically identical.
One of the main reasons to do it is to prevent your body from going into starvation mode and literally keeping every calorie it gets. That's why simply not eating to lose weight doesn't work very well.
I wasn't suggesting this for someone who wants to only lose weight. My suggestion was for someone that's exercising to get into shape in addition to fat loss.

The TEF is exactly the same and eating more frequently doesn't magically modify BMR. The "eat more frequently to burn more calories" mindset is a farce and based on the bodybuilder concept of eating frequently to always have amino acids in the bloodstream. People noticed they were very lean and just assumed it was because they ate so frequently. Regular randomized controlled trials show that meal frequency has no effect. You could literally eat all of your calories for one day in one meal and burn the same amount.

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maybe on a few days. i am eating extremely healthy. no red meats. i am counting everything.

How are you counting? Scale? Going by eye? 1700 kcals is a puny amount of kcals and going by eye could easily have overeat by 300-500 kcals. But you should realize that it's calories in/calories out. If 1700 is a 20% deficit below your maintenance, and one day a week you binge with 5000 kcals, you've effectively ate at maintenance the entire week.

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My nutrition Prof compared eating small and large meals to a woodchipper in regards to you metabolism.
If you throw small branches in, the chipper, will not slow down very much. However, when you throw a log in there it slows way down.

How would you define a log? On a modest cutting diet of 2200-2600 kcals, 3 meals at 700-900ish kcals is nothing the body can't handle.

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In regards to it being better, this is subjective to the person since no one is physiologically identical.One of the main reasons to do it is to prevent your body from going into starvation mode and literally keeping every calorie it gets. That's why simply not eating to lose weight doesn't work very well.
I wasn't suggesting this for someone who wants to only lose weight. My suggestion was for someone that's exercising to get into shape in addition to fat loss.

Compose a proper deficit diet and your body will never even come close to entering starvation mode.

As far as fat burners, it's hard to beat ECA stacks until going into the realm of prescription meds like HCG, steroids, etc.

20/200/81mg 3x a day is my go-to.

There is a nice stimulant effect, but I think the biggest advantage is appetite suppression. I just went from 9pm last night to 6pm today without a meal and did my workout (the last few sets were tough). Normally I have two meals in a day, but I got a late start since I decided to go out last night and then met a chick at dog park...did my workout at 4pm, just finished my lunch/dinner .

Going back out in a bit after I walk the dog and feed the cats outside.

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what's the purpose of the aspirin in the stack? i am looking into ephedra at the moment.

There is a lot of debate whether it's needed or not. IMHO all the research was done on it included so I include it at 81mg instead of the 325mg the original tests used sort of splitting the difference.

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