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Can someone please tell me if the comparison of poverty between SA, Dallas and Houston is for each city proper? I mean, Houston and Dallas both are surrounded by suburbs and that's where a good chunk of the money is. Dallas proper may have a 22% level but the suburbs sure don't. SA is a larger city than Dallas proper...has been for years. San Antonio has very few suburbs. Do they have any suburbs? Does Boerne count? That's why SA is the only large city I can think of that still has one area code. When someone calls me and doesn't leave an area code, I figure they're from SA.

Fact is, Houston and Dallas are apples and SA is oranges. Can't compare SA to either Dallas or Houston on pretty much anything unless it's by MSA.

Sure, SA, get a football team. Go for broke!

I wouldnt call a suburban population of nearly 1,000,000 not having suburbs. SA is the 24th largest (Bexar 17th most populous county)metro and that is sharing the region with the Austin area, San Marcos which is just minutes from S.A. San Antonio's richest areas are not in S.A. proper either, Olmos park, Terrel Hills, Alamo heights, etc.

I dunno if I really consider a bunch of enclaves as suburbs... They're basically just neighborhoods that didn't wanna pay the same taxes as the rest of the city. Sure, some of those are suburbs, but this isn't really the biggest metro area in the world. You did, however leave out the biggest one of all, which is New Braunfels, which is a decent-sized town. Seguin would be a suburb too. I still think we're big enough for a friggin' NFL team.

I left Seguin and New Braunfels off because those cities were founded and established long before cars were invented and people commuted. But I understand your point many commute from those cities now.

None, DFW has at least 11 suburbs over 100,000 with Arlington at 365,000, Houston has one.

You cannot compare mega-cities like Dallas and Houston to a mid-sized metropolitan area like San Antonio. San Antonio for the purposes of an NFL team is better compared to cities of like size like Cincinatti, Kansas City, Indianapolis, Nashville etc. These are all towns similar in size to San Antonio that have NFL franchises. San Antonio fits in with that group.

Dallas and Houston are better compared to places like Boston, New York and Chicago.

You cannot compare mega-cities like Dallas and Houston to a mid-sized metropolitan area like San Antonio. San Antonio for the purposes of an NFL team is better compared to cities of like size like Cincinatti, Kansas City, Indianapolis, Nashville etc. These are all towns similar in size to San Antonio that have NFL franchises. San Antonio fits in with that group.

Dallas and Houston are better compared to places like Boston, New York and Chicago.

New Braunfels is the biggest with 60,000 but then you have the Randolph Metrocom which has between 335,000 to 350,000 people in between San Antonio and New braunfels.
So to say SA has no suburbs is further from the truth. Bexar county itself is not far from the 2,000,000 mark, I'd say another 5-7 years.

San Antonio has the upper hand compared to Cincy, Indy, Nashville in size and growth rate. Those cities are in S.A's rear view mirror. But S.A. alone cant compare to the DFW region, SA/Austin would be a better comparison.

You cannot compare mega-cities like Dallas and Houston to a mid-sized metropolitan area like San Antonio. San Antonio for the purposes of an NFL team is better compared to cities of like size like Cincinatti, Kansas City, Indianapolis, Nashville etc. These are all towns similar in size to San Antonio that have NFL franchises. San Antonio fits in with that group.

Dallas and Houston are better compared to places like Boston, New York and Chicago.

I agree you cannot compare but DFW is surrounded by large suburbs. Houston and SA through aggressive annexation are not was the point I was making, they are similar in that aspect. But SA is not without suburbs as someone stated pages back, they are just small. Houston and DFW metros blow SA away in over all size is understood.

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