T-Mobile USA has just announced that they will be opening their doors to HSPA+ on their 3G network by 2010. They plan to upgrade their network to HSPA 7.2 by the end of the year followed by HSPA+. By upgrading to HSPA, users could see speeds up to 7.2 Mbps and 21Mbps with HSPA+.

Users will NEVER see it, it's all theoretical speeds. Maybe if you lived in the test environments AT&T and T-Mobile used sure, but you don't so while they say they can reach that...as a end user, you will never see it. But...that will not stop them from jamming the information down your throat just like they did when "3G" came out and what they all were offering was really 2.5G service lol!

09-12-2009, 04:16 PM

Brett Wyman

Oh I don't doubt that one bit at all. They will write down what users WANT to see, not the real truth. Has anyone ever seen their speed even close to 7 Mbps? I know I have not.

09-12-2009, 04:17 PM

Bla1ze

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Originally Posted by BlackberryOS

Oh I don't doubt that one bit at all. They will write down what users WANT to see, not the real truth. Has anyone ever seen their speed even close to 7 Mbps? I know I have not.

Only on my home internet, never from any of my carriers.

09-12-2009, 04:19 PM

MePascal

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Originally Posted by Bla1ze

Users will NEVER see it, it's all theoretical speeds. Maybe if you lived in the test environments AT&T and T-Mobile used sure, but you don't so while they say they can reach that...as a end user, you will never see it. But...that will not stop them from jamming the information down your throat just like they did when "3G" came out and what they all were offering was really 2.5G service lol!

Networks will have to raise the bar to a degree. With more and more device end users jumping to smartphone type devices, the current technology is straining systems to the breaking point.

Seems like T-Mo is trying to get a leg up. Can't say I blame them.

09-12-2009, 04:22 PM

jlevy73

Now that is a pretty funny. TMO reaching 21mbps lol. How about they get 3G to work first... And even when you are connected to their 3G network feels more like dial up

09-12-2009, 04:22 PM

Brett Wyman

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Originally Posted by MePascal

Networks will have to raise the bar to a degree. With more and more device end users jumping to smartphone type devices, the current technology is straining systems to the breaking point.

Seems like T-Mo is trying to get a leg up. Can't say I blame them.

Ya but the question is, will they actually make the changes so users can see close to those speeds they state.

09-12-2009, 04:26 PM

jlevy73

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Originally Posted by MePascal

Networks will have to raise the bar to a degree. With more and more device end users jumping to smartphone type devices, the current technology is straining systems to the breaking point.

Seems like T-Mo is trying to get a leg up. Can't say I blame them.

The problem is much larger than that. This issue is embedded into carriers network. Cell phone carriers use what are called gateways or trunk compression to compress the signal of many cell signals down to one to maximize speed as well as number of cell towers. This equipment is antiquated and costs huge $$$ to upgrade. GSM carriers in the US have the worse tech when it comes to that and to upgrade all of these by 2010 is like me becoming president.

TMO's claim is straight up false advertisement and the last time I checked that was illegal in the US.

09-12-2009, 04:29 PM

Bla1ze

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Originally Posted by MePascal

Networks will have to raise the bar to a degree. With more and more device end users jumping to smartphone type devices, the current technology is straining systems to the breaking point.

Seems like T-Mo is trying to get a leg up. Can't say I blame them.

Saying and doing are two different things...no one wins at this game, the end result is empty promises on service and people accept it because that is what's common practice.

No carrier is ever gonna say they are not the fastest, but again saying it and being able to provide it are two different stories.

Saying and doing are two different things...no one wins at this game, the end result is empty promises on service and people accept it because that is what's common practice.

No carrier is ever gonna say they are not the fastest, but again saying it and being able to provide it are two different stories.

Carriers escape clause from providing crap speeds:

Wow. I never really bothered to pay attention to the 'fine print' as one would call it..Now that you brought that up, that actually makes me mad that they claim such high speed but know that no one will get that speed and by them writing that little disclaimer, saves their ass from false advertisement. Pretty damn stupid.

09-12-2009, 04:32 PM

MePascal

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Originally Posted by Bla1ze

Saying and doing are two different things...no one wins at this game, the end result is empty promises on service and people accept it because that is what's common practice.

No carrier is ever gonna say they are not the fastest, but again saying it and being able to provide it are two different stories.

Carriers escape clause from providing crap speeds:

+1 That is what I like to call...Let's all say it together now.
CYA

Cover Your @**

09-12-2009, 04:33 PM

Bla1ze

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Originally Posted by jlevy73

The problem is much larger than that. This issue is embedded into carriers network. Cell phone carriers use what are called gateways or trunk compression to compress the signal of many cell signals down to one to maximize speed as well as number of cell towers. This equipment is antiquated and costs huge $$$ to upgrade. GSM carriers in the US have the worse tech when it comes to that and to upgrade all of these by 2010 is like me becoming president.

TMO's claim is straight up false advertisement and the last time I checked that was illegal in the US.

Word, AT&T's towers are held together with Bubblegum and Duct tape lol!

Seriously though, spot on statements right there.

09-12-2009, 04:55 PM

sunkast

Any network upgrade would be appreciated!

09-12-2009, 05:28 PM

306buddyluv

Best April fools joke ever from Tmo; but wait, its not even April.
I would be nice if they pull it off. But we all know that it won't happened.
Cause ATT preaches 7.2Mps on there network; and you can barely get 4Mps. I know cause I have a data card with them. When I am on Full bars I get like 4mps. But mostly 3mps. Thats why there add said "Up to".

09-12-2009, 05:31 PM

ealvnv

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Making a comparison between Tmobile EDGE (2g if I'm not mistaken) vs 3G, believe me there is a big difference.

That was done 8900 vs Bold vs 9700 (or what ever will be named at release date)

So as Sunkast said any network upgrade is welcome.

09-12-2009, 05:34 PM

306buddyluv

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Originally Posted by jlevy73

The problem is much larger than that. This issue is embedded into carriers network. Cell phone carriers use what are called gateways or trunk compression to compress the signal of many cell signals down to one to maximize speed as well as number of cell towers. This equipment is antiquated and costs huge $$$ to upgrade. GSM carriers in the US have the worse tech when it comes to that and to upgrade all of these by 2010 is like me becoming president.

TMO's claim is straight up false advertisement and the last time I checked that was illegal in the US.

Out of all the money those bastard make from us, you would have thought that they would spend the money to do this. But they don't. The just increase the rates and make us pay for things that we shouldn't be paying for. I.e charging us for sending us a paper bill. Thats why the Euro counter parts are so far ahead of us. Cause they actually value the customers. Not like the A holes here...

09-12-2009, 05:36 PM

ealvnv

Wirelessly posted (9000 OS 5.0.0.191)

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Originally Posted by 306buddyluv

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlevy73

The problem is much larger than that. This issue is embedded into carriers network. Cell phone carriers use what are called gateways or trunk compression to compress the signal of many cell signals down to one to maximize speed as well as number of cell towers. This equipment is antiquated and costs huge $$$ to upgrade. GSM carriers in the US have the worse tech when it comes to that and to upgrade all of these by 2010 is like me becoming president.

TMO's claim is straight up false advertisement and the last time I checked that was illegal in the US.

Out of all the money those bastard make from us, you would have thought that they would spend the money to do this. But they don't. The just increase the rates and make us pay for things that we shouldn't be paying for. I.e charging us for sending us a paper bill. Thats why the Euro counter parts are so far ahead of us. Cause they actually value the customers. Not like the A holes here...

If you haven't heard it yet that fee won't be going to you, they decided to not add the fee for paper billing.

09-18-2009, 02:46 AM

siber54

Only thing I don't understand about these speeds is.
1. Most webservers will not allow over 125kbs per line.\
2. your only really getting that speed from the tower to your phone not the outside networks.

I hope by that time all networks and towers will be running that network so it would be less drag and clogging.

They need to start releasing the phones with the new Lithium-ion polymer battery.

11-01-2009, 04:30 PM

death1246

If they say it and I run multiple tests over and over with my friends and our results dont show 7.2 Mbps or 21 Mbps when its out then iw ill sue t-mobile even though they are the carrier I use lol