#1 team never exploited themselves, but obviously farmed the (now banned/deleted) exploiters. Other teams have all been affected as well, even if not as blatantly obvious. A complete ladder reset is the only real answer.

how about that veev, go to the official forum arena section, and make a thread well explained why it is necessary to RESET LADDERS and MMR, and how to punish those scumbags who exploited, and thos fucktards who used it to gain "legit" rating just by queueing into those teams

i am sure a player with your achievments (blizzcon r1 etc) will get through to blizzard, and if you manage to get your buddies to post in there too, it would be awesome

I really hope Blizzard is taking so long on Diablo3 PvP since they plan to move competitive arena to D3 instead of WoW. This is just insane. There is a reason that this game is no longer competitive, no third party tournament organizer wants to deal with this. This whole thing is unprofessional.

how about that veev, go to the official forum arena section, and make a thread well explained why it is necessary to RESET LADDERS and MMR, and how to punish those scumbags who exploited, and thos fucktards who used it to gain "legit" rating just by queueing into those teams

i am sure a player with your achievments (blizzcon r1 etc) will get through to blizzard, and if you manage to get your buddies to post in there too, it would be awesome

We don't let players, even expert ones, balance the game for us. We appreciate their feedback, as we do all feedback.- GS

the reason they most likely aren't going to reset the ladders is the rating inflation change with 5.1. they said 5.1 will not be a new season, so i suppose they believe their new mmr inflation system will fix the fucked up ladders.

pet battles are better than arena anyways

Everyone talking about new MMR system in 5.1 but can anyone link bliue post with this info? Because i saw only "somewhere in the future maybe we will make new mmr system and much much more for pvp".

They will not reset the ladder, because the majority of WoW 'PvP' players are 1600-2200 rated, and those players will start crying once they see their rating gone.

I assume, that they concluded - only 10-15% of WoW PvP players participated in the exploit, another 10%~ got affected by this exploit, because they got fed. That leaves 60-70%+ WoW PvP players that would just get their rating reset for no reason, they would receive way more complaints from the said players.

What is right to 'us', is not always right for the low level PvP players, players that possibly didn't even have a clue about this exploit, and since you should all know by now; Blizzard caters the game changes and decisions towards the mass of people, not to a small amount of certain individuals like the AJ community.

In the end, Blizzard decision - not to reset the ladder, makes them lose the least amount of money possible within a bad situation at hand, less unhappy customers. And you think it's them being dumb, nope, they're just being smart as they've always been, milking WoW for whatever $$$ there's left in it. Admit it, the $$$ is coming from all those 1600-2200 rating or PvE players, not the people registered to AJ forums.

This^ But blizzard is far too retarded to take a logical approach to anything...

Or the way that their database stores this and other data doesn't support such a thing. People who are not programmers should not assume that every solution that they come up with is plausible. Next you're going to walk into a hospital and start giving "logical" suggestions for treatments to various medical conditions. :eyeroll:

Everyone talking about new MMR system in 5.1 but can anyone link bliue post with this info? Because i saw only "somewhere in the future maybe we will make new mmr system and much much more for pvp".

When in doubt, check the dev watercooler. There is 0 indication the new MMR system will be live in 5.1, but they are working on it for this season and preparing for it by adding the gear upgrades with patch 5.1.

"We’re currently working on a change to allow Team Ratings to grow faster over time, as long as you keep playing."

"To support this change we’re going to expand the 5.1 feature of improving the item level of your raid armor and weapons using Valor to now include Justice, Honor, and Conquest points as well. A Gladiator who has purchased a full set of Conquest gear will now have a compelling motivation to keep playing in patch 5.1, since they’ll be able to improve that set by spending Conquest points."

Or the way that their database stores this and other data doesn't support such a thing. People who are not programmers should not assume that every solution that they come up with is plausible. Next you're going to walk into a hospital and start giving "logical" suggestions for treatments to various medical conditions. :eyeroll:

Thing is Blizzard is capable of doing most things people suggested(since they have even done it in the past).Some suggestions are hard to accomplish but if they've done it in the past they should be able to do it again, right?

These, and all, exploitative activities are absolutely prohibited. We will investigate the situation carefully, and players that have been found to have participated in exploitation will be subject to the appropriate actions against their World of Warcraft accounts and characters, including:

Arena team deletion

Character MMR reset to 1500

All Conquest gear removed

Conquest earned tally reset, as well as all Honor and Conquest points removed.

All Arena achievements earned since the beginning of Mists of Pandaria removed.

3 day suspension

Please note that as of this posting, these penalties have not yet been applied. In the meantime, we have implemented a hotfix to resolve any remaining issues with the queue system to prevent this behavior in the future. Our first priority has been addressing the exploit and dealing with the players that took advantage of it. After that’s resolved, we'll assess the ladder and determine whether it's the right course, or even feasible, to make further adjustments.

Dont worry xandyn is here. Even if exploiters get r1, he will hack their accounts and disband the team.

well if he did that he would a hero i mean the hydra drama aside i don't think his a bad guy if he wrote an apology for his actions im sure people would get over it i mean im sure everyone deserves a second chance but idk thats just my opinion and yeah resetting ladders is the only way this season will ever be good at this stage..