The Jews are not the white (european) man's enemy at all. In fact, quite the opposite can and is increasingly, true.

Jews are a quite successful and old community of caucasians on the periphery of Europe - Judea/Israel was a former province of the Roman Empire - that has a rich and unique past and culture that has become a key part of the Western tradition.

Almost all of their secluded attitude of yesteryear is mostly a developed mechanism against past discrimination or persecution in order to preserve their faith/heritage.
Since the world community has for the most part moved past those barriers of yesteryear, things are changing (and have changed) for the good.
Jewish Americans are a strong contributer community in the United States that has helped make this country what it is today. Jews began arriving to the United States in significant numbers around the 1870's and 1880's. Since that time, the US has gone nowhere but up (skyrocketing) in terms of economic, human development and achievement - so the Jews haven't messed up anything for anyone. Intermarriage for Jews in the US is above 50% (fact) - not exactly a people that are fiercely separatist and consider themselves above anyone else.
Communities in the New York and New Jersey area that are usually led by people of Jewish background are some of the most dynamic, progressive and successful communities past and present in this country; and that is, of course, definitely not exclusively to the Jews there.

Jewish and Christian religious differences are trivial in modern times.
Christians should view Jews as the original people of the book that are living out their story and personal relationship with God that should not have interference with anyone else's. Jews should view Christians as a new group of people with a story and relationship to God of their own, similar to their own albeit Christian and on a larger scale with its unique perspective. Indeed, when one looks at all of the denominations of the Christian world, Jews can fit in as being their own denomination - instead of a new development, the prior nucleus that happened to exist among an ethnicity.

I believe that the Jewish allegiance in terms of racial/ethnic/cultural identity (if such a thing exists) rests firmly with the West. I think this is true on a personal, national/religious level for most Jews.

Are they white? Are they European?
Well, they are what they are. A Mediterranean, Caucasian people that are on the periphery of Europe and are mixed today no doubt, regardless of the ethnic core they have. Most Jews have lived in Europe for many generations to the point where they are practically White.

In regards to the Jewish homeland, Israel, I am in full support and they have my best wishes. They are opening a new chapter in their history and down the line this is good for everyone. If people in other countries did not like Jews among them, or preferred to have only their own in their countries, then why would you object to Israel striving to preserve their own identity within their own country. Surely, if most Jews moved to Israel they would at least be less of a "menace" to others.

Aid to Israel by the United States (which can easily be cut in the future when Israelis are less active militarily) is actually insignificant when one considers the amount of money wasted by the United States on all sorts of things ranging from UN aid to Africa (dwarfs aid to Israel or other allies) and of course all the inefficiencies in our budget that number in the hundreds of billions, literally. Even so, Israelis can and I believe want to be content with moral support from the United States and less and less financial/military support, becoming more independent.
For those that say we support them blindly, the United States has great leverage among the Israelis. When they designed a LAVI fighter jet in the 1980s that would compete with our American ones, the US told Israel not to produce them because they would hurt our companies. Israel discontinued the LAVI that year.

Israel can become an advantageous + profitable ally for the United States. We have a unique ally in them that even Europe or anyone else doesn't share and in the New Age with rising competitors (China) such a relationship will be valuable and increase our scope of power.

As for Jews in the United States being liberals, tell that to someone like Michael Savage, the diehard (Jewish) conservative radio host. Supports expulsion of illegals, English language only, Republican, total and singular loyalty to the United States, etc.

As for a Jewish "conspiracy" - do not confuse economic and political success or influence with a conspiracy. Why no talk of a "english protestant" conspiracy that established this country along Anglo Saxon principles and all of the presidents, etc have been of a certain (Anglo) stock. Why not read history as a tale of "manipulations" on the part of the Anglo? (or Spaniard, or Arab, or Chinese for that matter) That is what your spewings on this forum amount to, and a sad waste.

Since the Jews have been somewhat of an enigmatic group in history, it is a great accolade to America that we have managed to mold and harness their unique strengths and add them to our arsenal smoothly and I must say, advantageously. Similar praise can be given to America in regards to the great Irish nation here.
Jews must be judged fairly and in context.

The same is true of European nationalities or other races such as
Hispanics (no broad spanish-friendly, spanish-only areas/kick out the illegals), Asians (no unnecessary model minority tenderness), blacks (no affirmative action)
We need to pull out of Iraq on large scale and just maintain a smaller smarter base there and economic ties to the energy industry.
We need to slam the doors on immigration.
We need to focus on real, merit based equality (which for the most part will only help White Americans).
We need to use THAT attitude when reforming (mainly health care).
We need to start confronting, engaging and pressuring a rising China NOW.

The White nationalist movement should be a white nationalist movement by extension of values. Acceptance of others with an important prerequisite being that they fully see and act eye to eye with us. America can be viewed as a white man's country by EXTENSION. European whites were the ones that developed and integrated the American system of freedom, openness, strength, values and tolerance and continue to push it forward today. That is where the true pride comes from.

We are not so badly in the gutter at the current time - but we must act now to preserve and extend our culture and national greatness for generations to come.

Oh, by the way, the Lavi, with stolen powerplant technology, was turned over to China by our great "ally" and "little buddy" Izzy. I hear Bernie Schwartz and Loral Missile helped improve China's ICBM's also. Who gave the nuclear secrets to Stalin?

As for Jews in the United States being liberals, tell that to someone like Michael Savage, the diehard (Jewish) conservative radio host. Supports expulsion of illegals, English language only, Republican, total and singular loyalty to the United States, etc.

Big deal, how about his position on Zionism? How has Zionism benefited America? Or Britain? For all you turds waiting to see how the "anti-semites" respond, I'll leave you with this to peruse:

jews are champion minority casue in effect to make sure jews themselves benefit form special rights and prote4ction given to minorities without calling attention to themselves...

jews do not give a damn about minorities but they will use them to play them against whites and keep them as a buffer for protection in the same way Israel uses Russian jews as a buffer against arabs placing the new Russian jews between them hoping they will be first to die in an attack.

Aryan first is not good enough. Aryan only, you jews and minorities go live on your own. We do not want nor need any of you. Stay the hell away form us.

I believe that the Jewish allegiance in terms of racial/ethnic/cultural identity (if such a thing exists) rests firmly with the West. I think this is true on a personal, national/religious level for most Jews.

WHY?

The West produced dialectic through time until Hegel. Jews turned the dialectic of enlightenment on its head and made Marx/Mordecai Trotsky/Bronstein, etc. A horrible rhetoric with which to indoctrinate millions rooting their analytic capacities in the terms of Judaism: exile, oppression, persecution for no reason (racism), diaspora (landless, homeless, international, globalist, alienated workers), and so on.

The West gave Jung when he split from Freud (with his studies of transcendence, the masks of God, the big picture of the archetypes through time), where Freud had offered visions of "polymorphous" sex and little children whom he presumed were fantasizing about older "love objects" such as he fancied himself to be (see his case study Dora, lol).

The West produced the various elevated art, with religious undercurrents, the current America produces through arts commisars (the NEA) "Piss Christ," and so on. S B. Cohen, educated by Hbonim Dror, has films where he tries to entice politicians who oppose the Federal Reserve into embarrassing scenes of misbehavior, and puts bags of feces on ladies dining tables in America to degrade and humiliate them.

The West celebrates in Christianity holy days such as Easter, which express the existence of the holy in the material, the reincarnation of Divinity through time, in the resurrection of Jesus. By contrast, Jews celebrate executions (as on Purim). Mainstream Christianity is universal; Orthodox Judaism is taught as racial. Only the Jews are people belonging to "God." He has a covenant with them alone. No one else really has a God. And the God of the Torah says to smash and destroy other Gods and leave no remnant. This is that "God's" teaching.

Granted, monotheism came from Egyptians really--- so is that what you mean? That they owe their religion to other nations?

Many "Christianities" are simply re-envisionings of the Western Paganisms (and there are many). They have nothing to do with Judaism, one could argue.

Anyway: One could go on.

Exactly WHERE do these two meet, in your opinion? Could you be more specific?

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The White nationalist movement should be a white nationalist movement by extension of values. Acceptance of others with an important prerequisite being that they fully see and act eye to eye with us. America can be viewed as a white man's country by EXTENSION. European whites were the ones that developed and integrated the American system of freedom, openness, strength, values and tolerance and continue to push it forward today. That is where the true pride comes from.

We are not so badly in the gutter at the current time - but we must act now to preserve and extend our culture and national greatness for generations to come.

Sounds like more Jew doublespeak. "America can be viewed as a white mans country by EXTENSION?"
Read this link. This is the future path of America. And keep in mind nothing the Jew has done is for the benefit of whites.http://www.toqonline.com/2009/09/edm...-on-secession/

I don't give a damn what they think they, they are F'n up my country and people. They seem to be doomed by their own hand. Call it God's judgment or whatever but the last thing I want to do is be around when the shoe drops. They have a country, Israel, they need to migrate there.

The Jews are not the white (european) man's enemy at all. In fact, quite the opposite can and is increasingly, true.

Jews are a quite successful and old community of caucasians on the periphery of Europe - Judea/Israel was a former province of the Roman Empire - that has a rich and unique past and culture that has become a key part of the Western tradition.

Almost all of their secluded attitude of yesteryear is mostly a developed mechanism against past discrimination or persecution in order to preserve their faith/heritage.

And of course, they were discriminated and persecuted for no good reason, or because of their religion, or their success, as the story goes... Had nothing to do with usury, disloyalty, or outright treason.

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Since the world community has for the most part moved past those barriers of yesteryear, things are changing (and have changed) for the good.