Was almost to the point of giving up and going back to sleep at 5:30 AM (NZ time) when Peter Crouch got his header !! What a great goal.

You think? It looked like a practice goal to me. The service was good (which in itself is shocking, given who served it) but the goal itself was hardly great.

Sreesanth said, "Next ball he was beaten and I said, 'is this the King Charles Lara? Who is this impostor, moving around nervously? I should have kept my mouth shut for the next ball - mind you, it was a length ball - Lara just pulled it over the church beyond the boundary! He is a true legend."

Southgate is such a patronising ****, "The ref has to realise these Trinidad boys do things differently, you won't see them running too fast" when a chap was subbed the other day Any respect I had for him has evaporated. Thank **** he wasn't commentating on the Jamiaca friendly. Motson is the worst though, "these Ghanaians aren't scared, they're here to play football and aren't showing the Italians respect at all". Remind me again how long Appiah played for Juve, and how much Essien cost Motty, or should they just lie down in front of their white betters.

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"Shaka Hislop kicks the ball downfield and right into the path of Paul Robinson, who collects easily. That's probably Trinidad and Tobago's most accurate shot on goal today."

This is after John Terry saved England from being 1-0 down at the half by a sensational bit of defending. The commentator only deemed it fitting not to be biased heavily toward England after Crouch netted in the 82nd. In his relief he unleashed a barrage of compliments upon the Soc(c)a Warriors.

It's really unfortunate that these people are allowed into the commentary booth at this level of the sport.

T&T were set up to defend for 90 minutes and make it as hard as possible for the opposition.

In spite of that, both sides certainly looked like scoring.

The point is that Trinidad and Tobago shouldn't have held teams ranked as highly as Sweden and England scoreless for about 3 hours of World Cup football. They did a sensational job to do so, and to say that the tactics were defensive because the team is not capable of doing anything other than defending is insulting and plain incorrect.

The fact is that the best tactics to compete with teams of the calibre of England and Sweden is to absorb the attack and take advantage of the counterattack. England was not about to be beaten in the midfield. Not with guys like Gerrard and Lampard about.

Worth noting that Trinidad and Tobago came within a couple of inches of scoring against Sweden on Saturday via a counterattack. John Terry also broke up a near thing on a counterattack yesterday. It's a tactical choice, not a technical limitation.

I think Trinidad have been great. I'm hoping we turn Sweden over, and you lot beat Paraguay, because then you might well go through on goal difference

It'll have to be:

1-0 England v Sweden
2-0 T&T v Paraguay

Worth noting that Sweden hasn't lost to England in about 40 years, and that Sven may not start a full strength team either. I'd think he'd want to beat Sweden (for obvious reasons) and top the group though.

Prediction: Russel Latapy to get his first World Cup game time vs Paraguay.

The point is that Trinidad and Tobago shouldn't have held teams ranked as highly as Sweden and England scoreless for about 3 hours of World Cup football. They did a sensational job to do so, and to say that the tactics were defensive because the team is not capable of doing anything other than defending is insulting and plain incorrect.

No, I said that the tactics were based all about defending, which is precisely what they were - fair play to them, they recognised that the best way to approach the game was in that way.

How about we stuff about 6 or 7 past the Swedes for ya so you only need the one

The fact that you were playing us was the only thing preventing me wanting you to advance as we never finish above Sweden. But I'm now sure we will, and I hope to God you lot go through

I suspect that we'd still need 2, as we would be level on points and goal difference with Sweden if we beat Paraguay 1-0. Not sure what the ruling is from there, but I gather it'd be Sweden to go through.

I suspect that we'd still need 2, as we would be level on points and goal difference with Sweden if we beat Paraguay 1-0. Not sure what the ruling is from there, but I gather it'd be Sweden to go through.

If we beat Sweden 6 or 7-0, a victory will give you a better goal difference than them surely?