Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.

1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.

2007 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.

Parenting changes with the times. However, I get the impression that you beat the living fuck out of your kids and look for justification in history and the bible. That kind 'o folk is fucking scary. You may want to just go ahead and kill yourself as a preemptive measure. (P.S. George Bush thinks preemptive strikes are a great idea, So it would be like doing gods work. Do it now. Jesus loves you:)

Belts are a bit severe arn't they? & those "scenario's" are a bit OTT. hitting a child does not guarantee a succesful child, nor does not hitting them guarantee a child who will be a litle shit.

there areother ways to punish a child, though i am not against very VERY mild hitting provided it is for something the child should be greatly warned about, like biting other children or sticking forks in electric sockets. Not to say i'm suggesting you pull out a belt & beat them, more like, you give them a rough tap on the hand.

& all my cousin does is hit her kids... they're accustomed to it now, & they're some of the worst fuckers i've ever known, like i said, there are other ways to punish children, & shouting & hitting only does absolutely fuck-all

He's a kid! Sure, punish him, but you don't have to beat him. It does sound like you beat your kids though. It figures, people like you always use religion to justify any of the horrible things you do.

With stories that convoluted, Randy here could consider writing for daytime soap operas. Before you vehemently oppose his idiocy polluting your TV airwaves, consider that with the quality of daytime soap operas, no one will notice if it's him or whoever else they have writing that stuff.

2057 - Billy is sent to Jesus Camp to repent his sins with Bro. Randy.

2157 - Human civilization has long since collapsed, and the only traces of our existence are the infrastructures of our cities, cluttered with theocratic propaganda and grown over with grass and vines, nature breaking through our carefully constructed barrier.

Was it on purpose? If it was, Billy needs his ass beat. But if he was just throwing rocks or something and accidentally breaks the window, he just needs to apologize and work to buy a new window. Violence is not needed.

What people don't realize is that most of the fucked up people nowadays were abused by parents who were abused by their parents who were abused by THEIR parents, etc etc. So since people suppressed it all in the 1950s doesn't mean it didn't have repercussions a few generations down.

1987 - Billy, 8, accidentally breaks a neighbor's car window. His Dad talks to him about the duties and responsibilities of a human being in a civilized society. Dad leaves Billy to decide what he should do.

Billy's Dad approaches the neighbor and gives him a check to replace the car window. Dad and neighbor agree on a course of action.

After some soul-searching, Billy approaches the neighbor and offers to pay for the car window. As agreed with the Dad, the neighbor tells Billy that, if he would mow the lawn and trim the hedges every week for three months, the neighbor would accept that as recompense.

Billy grows up, goes to West Point, then goes to war. He now dreams of eventually getting a law degree and, maybe, running for public office.

Different characters, similar scenario. Unlike Randy's wank, this really happened.

This guy really wants it so that we know longer try to be concerned about child abuse (because it is obviously all just overreacting to a person disciplining their child), because apparently belting kids magically transformed them into successful human beings. Oh, and apparently foster care leads to gang activity, psychologists are waste of time, and are also after their client's mother.

Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt. He blacks a few eyes and clubs Billy in the head a little for extra measure. Maybe a little too much, but what the hey. 2008- Billy looks to imaginary friends for support, grows up so fucked up he can't even remember his own name, calls himself Bro.somebody and makes up shit out of his damaged head.
And makes up still more shit.
Hey, this is sorta like fun...