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Your Source For The Best In BasketballTue, 16 Sep 2014 16:24:52 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.3By: hamidashimonohttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2679598
Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:00:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2679598It’s funny that you would say that I’m ignoring you. Are you still going to ignore the fact that your first comment is wrong?

“Respect to Mark Jackson. I wouldn’t want to go down in history as the team who conceded the most 3s in a game too.”

The Warriors DID go down in history as the team who conceded the most threes in a game. You CANNOT dispute this!

So Lloyd, are you going to keep ignoring the fact that your original statement is wrong?

Sometimes it’s just better to admit to being wrong and moving on to fight another fight. You can’t win them all.

]]>By: hamidashimonohttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2679586
Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:52:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2679586In response to your first paragraph, I’d rather be the team that didn’t tie the record and gave up 22 threes, than the team that had worst 3-point defensive performance ever “in the HISTORY OF THE NBA”. Try to argue all you want about tying versus breaking bad records, at the end of the day, they are in the record books.

Yes, I watched the game. I don’t know what that has to do with the argument, though.

“Do you expect the Warriors to just avoid all other field goals and just guard the permiter?” No. I don’t know what that has to do with the argument, though.

“If your starters aren’t getting it done, you switch it up.” No. He cleared the bench in the fourth quarter. He gave up on the game. In other words, he stopped competing.

Yes, I was reading what you were saying. But I didn’t ignore anything, and I didn’t make anything up:

“Respect for not letting them break the record. It’s a matter of principle.”

In other words, what you have been saying ALL THIS TIME is it’s good that Coach Jackson stopped them from being the ONLY team to have the worst 3-point defensive performance. Am I wrong in this assumption? From your statement, one can infer that you respect the fact that he made sure the Warriors only tied the record. Hence my statement. Nothing was made up.

Mark Jackson did not make the best of a horrible situation. His team still is in the record books for all the wrong reasons, and at the end of the game, was only worried about the record instead of caring about his bench players and giving them some quality minutes.

I never said that him sticking to his principles was pointless. Who’s making things up again? The way he stuck to his principles was disappointing (disrespecting his bench players, the fans who want to see true competition). I lost a lot of respect for him as a Coach because of how he conducted himself.

You respect him for how he conducted himself: he stopped the Warriors from being the SOLE team with worst 3-point defensive performance ever.

I’m not trying to stop you from respecting that. Go ahead be my guest. To each their own.

I’d rather respect a coach that gives his bench players quality minutes and asks them to go out and compete until the final buzzer sounds, instead of a coach that is worried about trivial records. The only record that an NBA coach should worry about is how many championships they have.

To me, Coach Jackson just comes off as bitter and petty.

]]>By: Lloydhttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2679576
Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:44:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2679576He didn’t let the record get broken. Anyone would maintain that tying for the record is great but having the record to yourself is way more meaningful and gratifying. At the opposite end of the spectrum you’d rather be ONE of the teams that gave up 23 3′s in a game than the ONLY team in the HISTORY OF THE NBA to give up 24. Mark Jackson made sure his team didn’t have that monicker.

The Rockets were gunning from deep all game and their shots were just dropping. Did you see the game? They shot 57% from the 3 point line. Some of those were just difficult shots, while others were good shots made off penetration. Regardless, you’d rather concede a 3 point shot attempt than anything in the paint. Their shots were just falling from all over the place. Do you expect the Warriors to just avoid all other field goals and just guard the permiter? The Rockets just heated up and stayed hot from 3. Period. You probably could’ve had 6 defenders out there and made little difference. You can’t blame the Coach for that.

If your starters aren’t getting it done, you switch it up. Pop does it all the time. The reserves were in because the starters just couldn’t stop that offense. Also, from a competition point sitting your starters to avoid injury is completely valid since you’re not going to risk your entire season on one game. The ultimate goal isn’t just to win that one game.

I’m sure he did that, but again, the Rockets were just on fire. Their shots were dropping. It’s one of those rare nights. Even the bench was hitting. Only one of the Rocket’s bench players didn’t hit one. They played defence, couldn’t stop them, so they made sure to stop them by fouling. Make no mistake, the Rockets were gunning for the record and trying to embarrass the Warriors. Mark Jackson did what he could to make SURE the record wasn’t broken.

You were reading what I was saying, ignoring it and making stuff up like, “It’s your principle to respect the worst 3-point defensive performance ever”. No one said that. Mark Jackson made the best of a horrible situation. He stuck by his principles in that situation even though it may be pointless to a lot of people (like you) to do so. That’s respect.

]]>By: hamidashimonohttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2679437
Sat, 09 Feb 2013 23:11:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2679437I’m sorry, am I not explaining my argument clearly enough for you to understand? Let me see if I can break it down for you in another way:

You’re trying to make a point that it is a matter of principle to not make, and I quote: “their opponents record holders at their expense”. My argument is, they ARE the record holders. Tying or breaking the record… it doesn’t matter. You are still in the record books as the team with the worst 3-point defense.

If Mark Jackson was concerned about not being in the record books, he should have stopped the 3-pointer that tied the record. But he didn’t. So from my perspective, he gets no respect. Do you now understand why I think Coach Jackson doesn’t deserve any respect?

As to your points about competing and being a man of principle, in my opinion, Mark Jackson did not embody both of those qualities in this game. Firstly, if you want to embody the spirit of competition, you do not pull your starters from the game. Once you clear your bench, you’re essentially saying: I concede this game, I don’t want to risk injuring my starters, let’s put the reserves in and at least get them some QUALITY minutes.

Which brings me to the second point of being a man of principle. In this case, if you want to be a man of principle, you should bring your reserves in and make it a point to demand the reserves that they show the starters how 3-point defense should be played. That way you show the team that no one is safe in their role as starter and maintains competition within the team. Asking the reserves to just foul the Rocket players at the end of the game is not competing. It’s disrespectful to the bench players because they don’t get to maximise their time on the court playing QUALITY minutes, disrespectful to the fans because they came to see exciting, hard-fought basketball. Fouling players intentionally is not playing hard, it’s not competing.

Finally, your comment questioning whether I’m being “willfully ignorant” is not appreciated at all. I’ve tried my best to understand your points of view and address all your points in a respectful and clear manner.

]]>By: Lloydhttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2679358
Sat, 09 Feb 2013 18:23:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2679358Haha who said anything about respecting terrible 3-point defence? And it’s not my principle to respect him. He has principles and I respect a man who does since all men should.

He lost the game already. Badly. It’s a matter of principle to not concede another 3, making their opponents record holders at their expense. There was nothing to do about the score at that point, but there was something to do to prevent his team being on the wrong side of a record, and he did that.

It’s not about moral victories…it’s about competiting until the end even when it’s pointless to do so. Principle. Don’t know if you’re being willfully ignorant or what.

]]>By: hamidashimonohttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2679323
Sat, 09 Feb 2013 15:31:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2679323They have the worst display of 3-point defense in an nba game and it’s your principle to respect that. Okay. In competition, the only thing that matters is winning the game. There are no other wins, no moral victories. As a competitor and as a man you should know that.
]]>By: Lloydhttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2679322
Sat, 09 Feb 2013 15:24:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2679322Respect for not letting them break the record. It’s a matter of principle. His team lost the game already but he wasn’t going to let the opponents get that other win. As a competitor and as a man you got to respect that.
]]>By: hamidashimonohttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2679256
Sat, 09 Feb 2013 06:19:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2679256Exactly. The result for the Warriors was bad, so it’s hard to fathom how you can give Mark Jackson respect for it.
]]>By: Lloydhttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2679193
Sat, 09 Feb 2013 00:06:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2679193um…is being the winner not better than tying? In the same way, tying for last is better than being the last. No one’s saying it’s not bad, but it could be worse. Mark Jackson prevented it from being worse.
]]>By: hamidashimonohttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2679140
Fri, 08 Feb 2013 21:49:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2679140If sharing the scoring record is still impressive, even if it is a tied record, then giving up the most threes is still impressively bad, even if it is a tied record. That is, if you understand competition…
]]>By: Lloydhttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2678792
Fri, 08 Feb 2013 11:09:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2678792100 points is spectacular, but sharing your name with another person only gets you half the shine. Impressive, but if you understand competition, you want to be the best not tied for the best.
]]>By: 23http://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2678177
Thu, 07 Feb 2013 15:54:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2678177Ok yeah by you not answering my questions I see how you feel. You think its better to play until the game is out of reach. Then you just want teams to go through the motions
]]>By: hamidashimonohttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2678116
Thu, 07 Feb 2013 14:03:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2678116Answer this question for me: if an NBA player scored 100 points in a game, would it not mean anything because he only tied Wilt’s record???
]]>By: Lloydhttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2678113
Thu, 07 Feb 2013 13:47:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2678113They tied the record. It’s not the same.
]]>By: K_HOLIDAYhttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2678091
Thu, 07 Feb 2013 05:59:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2678091They didn’t want the new record to be set on them… How’s that?
]]>By: Renan Portela Titohttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2678081
Thu, 07 Feb 2013 03:28:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2678081I’m lost. They ARE a part of history, the record was tied
]]>By: Renan Portela Titohttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2678080
Thu, 07 Feb 2013 03:23:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2678080My thoughts exactly
]]>By: KBMhttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2678063
Thu, 07 Feb 2013 01:56:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2678063bingo was his name o
]]>By: Reddhttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2678055
Thu, 07 Feb 2013 00:24:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2678055Um..every team loads out their starters at the end of a game when the margin is that wide.

Lol..

]]>By: KipSmithershttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2678042
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 23:55:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2678042I’ve grown to hate the term “old school”.
]]>By: 23http://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2678027
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 23:05:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2678027Well they are a part of history. No team has allowed more 3s in a single game than the warriors.
]]>By: 23http://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2678025
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 23:04:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2678025Exactly!
]]>By: 23http://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2678023
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 23:03:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2678023So u wanted the rockets to take out their starters and go deep into their bench? In order to not embarrass golden state? The NBA isn’t a pity party. You play until the final buzzer. It’s not like Houston was pulling up on fast breaks for 3s. Most of the 3s I saw were actually wide open from kickouts. Or did you want Houston to pass up open shots from deep? You think it would’ve been smarter to drive into the crowded lane?
]]>By: Reddhttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2678015
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 22:46:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2678015How…?

They won by 31? They kept their guys in even after the starters were taken out…lol.

]]>By: Maxhttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2678002
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 21:58:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2678002LMAO Hand down, man down!
]]>By: hamidashimonohttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2677995
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 21:39:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2677995Uh… Mark Jackson and the Warriors DID go down in history as the team that conceded the most threes in a game. Not sure what respect you’re giving him.
]]>By: DFrancehttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2677992
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 21:35:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2677992No such thing as running up the score in professional sports just like there’s no rule against hack – a – everyone to stop a 3 point record.
]]>By: 23http://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2677990
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 21:26:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2677990So you wanted the rockets to stop trying? That’s basically what you’re implying.
]]>By: Mr. Wethttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2677985
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 21:00:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2677985I have zero problems with either coaches’ decision. It’s not 6th grade, if a team wants to keep scoring. They should be able to, if you want to stop them. Stop them. That’s what Mark jackson did.
]]>By: Adnan Khttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2677984
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 20:56:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2677984I saw the whole game, and this is what I saw.. majority of the game up until the last few minutes the Warriors didn’t deny much nor chase close out any Rockets around the 3 point line. For whatever reason they were focused on the paint and midrange area defensively, they “laid down” sometime around the 2nd quarter. Then in the last 2-3 minutes or so they start getting tough guy on everyone….. absolute bull, there’s nothing “old school” about that, you don’t decide to do the right thing at the end of the game, NO, you lost your priveleges to that when you spent the whole game playing like you didn’t want to win….

mini, Mark Jackson rant incoming…. growing up in the 90′s I still remember him as the one PG who would infuriate young NBA fans who idolized PG’s like Iverson, Marbury, etc… because he would constantly back players down when dribbling the ball as if he was too scared to go up man to man with the new breed of PG’s at that time. So get this, he’s one of the main reasons the NBA implemented a 5 second backdown rule, yea that’s right… him, a POINT GUARD, not a post player, but a POINT GUARD….. anyway that’s my Mark Jackson rant

]]>By: Dacrehttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2677978
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 20:52:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2677978Why didn’t they play defense….140 points in regulation?… Mark Jackson is a punk.
]]>By: ScrewThttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2677974
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 20:17:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2677974If you don’t want them to run up the score… then stop them. I don’t mind the Warriors fouling, even though I’m a Rockets fan. What do you expect the Rockets to do though? Just let the shot clock run out on them every time so they don’t hurt the Warriors feelings? They had their bench players in.
]]>By: K_HOLIDAYhttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2677973
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 20:14:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2677973I’m not mad at Mark Jackson. Warriors had no reason to want to be a part of history or to allow it for that matter.
]]>By: billhttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2677967
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 19:46:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2677967That’s only because we’re warrior fans who used to have it happen so many times IN THE FIRST QUARTERS of games. Those memories haunt us.
]]>By: Reddhttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2677965
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 19:42:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2677965Agreed My warriors played disappointingly but doesn’t change the fact the score was ran up.
]]>By: Junior Taylorhttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2677959
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 19:25:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2677959The team you should hate is the Warriors for allowing the Rockets to light it up from downtown. It’s not that Rockets fault that the Warriors decided not to show up defensively.
]]>By: Reddhttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2677936
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 18:16:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2677936I hate the Rockets, i hate when teams run up the score in any sport(not soccer).
]]>By: Joehttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2677932
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:47:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2677932Lol at Bogut and his C U Next Tuesday tweet!
]]>By: RV6http://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2677927
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:46:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2677927As coach, Jax will do what he wants, but the Rockets weren’t wrong here. Their offense IS shooting a ton of threes. It’s not like they kept the starters in. Unfortunately for GS, Houston’s bench still has some good three point shooting. Why didn’t they intentionally foul in the first half, when Houston put up 77 points?
]]>By: Mike Mahalowhttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2677924
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:31:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2677924That’s the game. Deal with it
]]>By: Lloydhttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2677918
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:00:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2677918Respect to Mark Jackson. I wouldn’t want to go down in history as the team who conceded the most 3s in a game too. However, I have no problem in running up scores. The only reason you should feel the need to take out your best players is to prevent chance of injury. If you want to send a message to the rest of the league, more power to you.
]]>By: niQhttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2677899
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 16:21:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2677899I was surprised Curry and Klay couldn’t match them on the 3′s. But then again, Klay was in early foul trouble trying to guard Harden.
]]>By: nbkhttp://www.slamonline.com/nba/warriors-intentionally-fouled-the-rockets-to-prevent-3-point-record/#comment-2677890
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 16:16:00 +0000http://www.slamonline.com/online/?p=251564#comment-2677890Mark Jackson deserves some credit for not letting the Rockets be ridiculous.
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