Quote: Liddell started training in Koei-Kan karate at the tender age of 12. In fact, a tattoo on his scalp actually reads, Koei-Kan. But a tattoo on his shoulder seems to be what gives the masses the most trouble. You see, that tattoo does not say Kenpo.

Rather, it says Kempo. Here’s the difference, according to longtime trainer and friend John Hackleman (taken from the Knuckle Pit).

"In 1985, when I moved from Hawaii to California,” says Hackleman, “I switched it (the name of his martial arts style) from Kaju Kenbo to Hawaiian Kempo. I added some things to it, took away some things and started calling it Hawaiian Kempo. I took out the katas and the forms and I threw in more natural fighting techniques and conditioning. Now that’s my style. Like if you see Chuck (Liddell) with the tattoo on his arm, that’s the logo for my school."

On the local circut you will see TMA fighting MMA. Turning pro isn't about winning lots of fights. It's about having a good promoter and winning fights. There are certian gyms that pro MMA fighters come from. Not because they are the best gyms with the best fighters but because they have the best promoters. I have seen local TMA fighters defect to these gyms in hopes of making the transition to professional. These gyms are the typical MMA schools with backing from a Gracie (or some other big name).

TMA fighters are out there but there is a "good old boys" club for the big ticket.

Quote:On the local circut you will see TMA fighting MMA. Turning pro isn't about winning lots of fights. It's about having a good promoter and winning fights. There are certian gyms that pro MMA fighters come from. Not because they are the best gyms with the best fighters but because they have the best promoters. I have seen local TMA fighters defect to these gyms in hopes of making the transition to professional. These gyms are the typical MMA schools with backing from a Gracie (or some other big name).

TMA fighters are out there but there is a "good old boys" club for the big ticket.

Any information on Chuck's formal training?

Any known names?

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EDIT: I seen a video of lidell training Sanchin like kata and getting boards broke over his head while wearing no top with bottom karate type pants and a black belt. Im sorry I dont have a link, it was on TV but im still searching.