You know, I don't think these two actually know each other. She's looking at his cock, which she wouldn't be if she'd been walking around with him all day. Maybe it's a "this is what I did on vacation" picture.

Well I guess you can take comfort in the facial expressions of the "Goths" behind them... it doesn't look like they're gonna follow that trend anytime soon... unless I'm wrong and they're totally intrigued

If I remember correctly, it's either Germany or Holland. But I think it was in Germany. Either way, Quick_draw, it's not in the US. Not that I condone such things, but you will never live in such a liberated place as these 'fucked up european socialist state's. You'll be living in a Church State within your lifetime, wistfully dreaming of having freedoms.

The voice of an observer....I'll never do heroin. I know this because my friends who were addicts of heroin, have either killed themselves, covered themselves with tattoos so they could feel something, or are so fucked up there is no return for them.

The other reason I won't do heroin is because when I hurt myself, aka, brake a bone or the like, the Vicodin runs out a little too fast for my liking.
So I steer as far away as I can.

well, i'm 30 and still a goth... my friends are older than me and still goth... they have friends older than them who are still goths. guess it depends if you live in an area where it's more important to follow trends or an area where people just care to be what they are and give 2 shits what others think.

It seems to me that most goths say "we dont follow trends", "we are who we are" but isnt goth itself a trend? You get all these kids dressing in black, I assume they could just like the image or whatever but it does seem like a trend. Obviously you dont see it like this so my question is, Why do 'real' goths dress like you/they do? Is it belief, ideology or what? I really am curious.

goth itself is a subculture. within that subculture are other groupings... like cybergoth for one. any subculture has an identifiable quality about it, which in the case of goths is clothing. there aren't many north american goths that dress like me though, since i prefer a more victorian goth look with lace, velvet and floor length skirts and the like. i see more people like that in europe than here. i see it as that younger goths, who weren't around to understand it when it first 'came out' are more of a trend thing whereas you get people my age and older that are still goth tend to dress more like i do and care little about the current 'goth trend'. trends affect any social group regardless what some like to think

If you're that concerned about your image your probably a pretentious drama queen, regardless of whether you dress up or dress down. Of course I would never judge anyone because I normally just wear bear skin from a fresh kill. By the way, I eat steel and shit bullets.

Punk has been dead for a long time and goth is following the same cycle; it is pretty much pop culture already. Kids will be kids but some adults can't let go of it. It will be interesting to see what the next abrasive/subversive counterculture is.