Greetings Brothers and Sisters. I have a question that might or might not change my life for good, but before that I need to introduce myself so you'll know exactly why I find it so hard to answer the question myself.

I've been a dedicated Spiritual Satanist since I was 18, as I managed to find the Joy of Satan website within the first year since my family finally got the internet in our house. My knowledge until then was only limited by books that I felt were wrong or deceiving or limiting, and my own ability to question everything. My family used to bring me to church every Sunday in my tender years and I hated everything of it. I kept thinking 'why would this "god" that nobody can see or talk to have caused so much evil?', and many questions like these.More than I few times I have done my math and decided that very probably Satan was not a bad guy, that people were simply wrong in believing that. Kept it to myself obviously or I would have had a mob after me.

The year I found the JoS website I felt the deepest connection with what HP Maxine was saying, I just knew I was finally in the right place. I decided to wait for the next Walpurgis Night and dedicated my soul to Satan with joy in my heart. Felt like I was 'returning home' if that makes sense to you. (Years after that night I did the dedication ritual once again, even if I read it wasn't necessary, because the first time one of my disrespectful family memebers barged in the room during the ritual and I felt as if I had failed Satan. That same night during the second ritual I finally saw Him as a beautiful golden Peacock. I knew He was with me.)

Ever since I found the website I dug as much as I can go its pages, thirsty for knowledge, and started very soon to train myself to meditate and empower myself.

And here I discovered something that crushed me.Whenever I tried to feel energy I realized that I could not feel a thing. I read about it, all the FAQs, all the help from the JoS Yahoo groups I had joined. Everyone just said that some people are already more advanced while others have it harder.

I COULD have accepted that as the only possible solution (a common problem with newbies it seemed) if it weren't for a couple details.

When I was 14 I had 'performed a miracle'. I apologize if this sounds stupid or immature and if I choose not to give much detail about it, but as many HP have rightly said the enemy may be hiding in our groups and I'd rather they didn't have it easy finding out what I could do. Let it be said that it is something every xian ignorant thinks is impossible for a human.That event alone suggested that I may have had a strong soul and it pushed me even further in my study of magic (wasn't a SS at 14 yet).

Among other things, I managed to change the weather on a number of occasions. The only one time I failed to this day was recently, as I tried to summon rain over Australia's fires (I live in Australia now and I know very well how much damage there has been) and no matter the amount of water element I would use I would almost feel a 'block' from something, whether that be someone's magic or a machine that prevented cloud formation. (Saw that some have extensively talked about this in previous posts, much appreciated.)

Another notable couple of things I could do since like 2001 was picking up scents astrally (from pictures), the term would be Clairalience I think, and it would reveal things about people, health problems, if they were honest or lying, and it worked best over very long distances (like USA-Australia) and with people I knew better. Once, I could discover my American friend had changed her shampoo by taking a whiff from her hair astrally and I wasn't even focusing on it. So yeah, maybe I do feel SOME energy after all, but it's nothing that ever helped me communicating with Father Satan or the Demons.

The last thing I'll mention is what I always called astral clone (which later I read HP Maxine called Thoughtform), I found I was able to grow my aura, split it to generate a clone and use it as a sort of astral doppelganger and a vector to heal others over a distance. I know this worked because I experimented very long with this and didn't tell the receiving person what I was doing but they described the feeling very accurately. The closest friends also reported my energy to be very strong and rejuvenating.. This made me think that perhaps I was a naturally stronger soul but didn't know and hadn't realized until that point.

I never liked to boast or brag about things I could do so this kind of information I only ever gave to those very few I thought I could trust completely. I'm only telling you guys now because I have asked my question before and people always told me to keep it up and train more. The first time I heard it was at least back in 2003.

I'll spare you more details and hope that you will believe me (I did tell HP Maxine about the astral clone in an email around 2002-3 but I doubt she would remember me), and I'll rephrase my question so that it won't suggest the obvious easy answer.

What would you do if you had trained yourself for nearly 20 years with nearly all the meditations from the JoS website, with the foundation meditation, the chakra awakenings, and extensively with the elements in order to dislodge your energy from its numbness, but STILL couldn't feel energy like everyone else?

My all time strongest desire is really only to be able to reach our Gods and work with them to evolve myself spiritually. I think it's the only thing that makes sense in this life. To better oneself and the Universe, once one is free to do so and capable enough.

To this day I have probably seen the Gods for 20 seconds altogether in 20 years, spoken with one asking Her name once (I think She came to me because I had been focusing particularly hard one night on my third eye, still without feeling it though) and a couple years ago I was so desperate I decided to try some natural oil/drug that put me in a blur of horrible visions (that I HOPE are never going to become true in the slightest!), and when I couldn't stand the fear any longer I mustered my courage and called 'Satana' (Satan in Italy, that's where I'm from) and He came to keep me focused on Him for as long as it took to regain my normal ability to think... He was simply magnificent. In my experience He looked a bit like Shiva from the statues in India, cross legged and peaceful, but the thing about Him that struck me was that He was completely surrounded with golden energy, strong and ineffable one might say. I had seen Him before in meditation as a golden Peacock but it only lasted a moment like all my visions generally. Good thing I have a good memory and can re-analyze what I see after by recalling the image in enough detail.

All that said (sorry it took so long, wrote it on my phone from work so apologies if it seems like I'm jumping from one thing to another), I REALLY hope you can give me some answer or piece of advice that will somehow make sense and help me unlock me, so I can finally FEEL energy and work those meditations like there's no tomorrow.

I tried the blocked chakra methods to no avail so far as well, but I have at least begun to perceive something when I chant the new/updated 'AUM' chakra awakening words.. Maybe I have been 'too silent' while meditating so far? I read that there is not higher blasphemy to the church than the power of the Runes.. I really don't know what else might help me open up those eyes and ears and start speaking with Father Satan and the Demons right now.I have experimented a lot (way over 7 breaths) with all elements so if no new ideas arise I am thinking of taking it to an extreme level, not to the point of endangering myself just to feel but pretty close perhaps. I think it's safe to say I have a huge resistance to energy and almost never had a negative effect hours or days after absorbing elements. (Only once 8 years ago after actually feeling, only in that occasion, the Earth element and I had very sore neck and shoulders for two weeks. I was in pain but happy I could feel. When I tried it again however I felt nothing and with no effects.)

That's pretty much all I can think of. If you have any idea what else I might do to finally start having conversations with our Gods please let me know. I don't think there is a lot I have not tried at this point.

So thank you all for reading this far and feel free to ask me questions, anything that could help you understand why I have meditated and exercised more than half my life with no possible guidance from our Gods simply because I could not even feel my chakras.

The perception I got from reading was that you are already pretty advanced, seemingly from a combination of practice in past lives, as well as this one. That seems corroborated by your predisposed feelings towards Christianity and Satanism. With this in mind, I wish to rule out simple solutions. Is it possible that you are merely used to feeling energy, due to your past practice, that it isn't really a new experience for you? If you were able to do these workings, such as modulating the weather, creating a thought-form AND healing someone with it, that sounds to me like you already are working with energy, and it means you must be possessing at least enough of it to sustain these workings. I think it is plausible you are more desensitized to it than a newbie who just had their first interaction with energy in forever.

As for talking with the Gods, I agree that it is a good thing to commune and advance spiritually. You cite an inability to sense/feel chakras as the reason for not being able to do this, but I don't think that is necessarily correct. While it is concerning, given that you are able to do these other workings, as well as clairalience, it doesn't really sound like you are limited in that regard. Have you tried the specific meditations on clairaudience? (https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Psychic_Centers.html)Working on your clairaudience would allow such communication, and I cannot imagine you not developing the ability, with practice, given the other abilities you already possess, regardless of your sensitivity to the energy/chakras.

Additionally, you mention healing your friends and them able to positively feel energy from you. While it is true that this doesn't necessarily directly reflect on your sensitivity to energy, it means that you can proficiently direct it with your will. Have you tried replicating the same type of working on yourself to judge the effect? Surely you would feel a similar sensation if you directed the same magnitude of energy onto yourself.

Lastly, you mention you exercise. Do you mean yoga? Hatha yoga is supposed to increase your inherent energy, so certainly try that, as well, if not already.

Hope my suggestions help. I am not trying to make you feel stupid or anything, these are just the thoughts I get when I read your post. Good luck.

The perception I got from reading was that you are already pretty advanced, seemingly from a combination of practice in past lives, as well as this one. That seems corroborated by your predisposed feelings towards Christianity and Satanism. With this in mind, I wish to rule out simple solutions. Is it possible that you are merely used to feeling energy, due to your past practice, that it isn't really a new experience for you? If you were able to do these workings, such as modulating the weather, creating a thought-form AND healing someone with it, that sounds to me like you already are working with energy, and it means you must be possessing at least enough of it to sustain these workings. I think it is plausible you are more desensitized to it than a newbie who just had their first interaction with energy in forever.

As for talking with the Gods, I agree that it is a good thing to commune and advance spiritually. You cite an inability to sense/feel chakras as the reason for not being able to do this, but I don't think that is necessarily correct. While it is concerning, given that you are able to do these other workings, as well as clairalience, it doesn't really sound like you are limited in that regard. Have you tried the specific meditations on clairaudience? (https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Psychic_Centers.html)Working on your clairaudience would allow such communication, and I cannot imagine you not developing the ability, with practice, given the other abilities you already possess, regardless of your sensitivity to the energy/chakras.

Additionally, you mention healing your friends and them able to positively feel energy from you. While it is true that this doesn't necessarily directly reflect on your sensitivity to energy, it means that you can proficiently direct it with your will. Have you tried replicating the same type of working on yourself to judge the effect? Surely you would feel a similar sensation if you directed the same magnitude of energy onto yourself.

Lastly, you mention you exercise. Do you mean yoga? Hatha yoga is supposed to increase your inherent energy, so certainly try that, as well, if not already.

Hope my suggestions help. I am not trying to make you feel stupid or anything, these are just the thoughts I get when I read your post. Good luck.

Thank you so much for your answer and for taking your time reading my post.I was beginning to fear the Ministry would consider not displaying it as I'm not sure how many people usually claim to have some abilities. I met so many liars on the way I became even more able to trust, but Spiritual Satanists are the only 'family' I always could related to, so I took my chances with this message.

So you believe that my workings indicate that I am already advanced and that my inability to feel energy (whereas a newbie would probably feel tons of it) comes from previous experience that made it possible for me to tolerate much more energy before I can begin to feel it?Because that makes a lot of sense to me, especially because "someone other than me" thought of it (I didn't want to make this statement as I felt I was being arrogant or immature, stopped myself many times when I thought of it, knowing I hadn't had so much experience with the Gods or Father Satan).

The way you explained your theory makes sense to me. Pretty much, having always used this much energy it is "a normal thing" for me and as a result I don't feel it like someone who has only recently begun to use it and experiment with it. Pretty solid theory, I think.I've been hunting down all the meditations where HP Maxine would say something like "you WILL most definitely feel energy from this" or "this is VERY advanced and it takes a strong aura to do it" or my favorite ones "DON'T do more than 7 breaths, even adepts don't go over 20"... I'd feel 'hope' as I read those the first time thinking that I'd definitely get somewhere, so all the way to this point I thought that certainly I was doing it wrong, considering my failed efforts a newbie's attempt, and asking myself where exactly I had gone wrong.

(Sorry if I'm repeating myself, I'm basically thinking out loud right now while I realize what the problem is..)

As for directing the energy I used to heal others towards myself to feel it, I have tried that too but my energy alone feels like nothing. They reported being 'overwhelmed' by it.. if I didn't know it was working I'd say they were exaggerating it, but I tried it with dozens of people who didn't know each other and did the math, weird as the final result was.

As for my health level (knowing it's something that HP Maxine mentioned in the Kundalini and Bioelectricity page) I can very well say "I have no health problems whatsoever", I daily clean and 'revamp' (if that's the word I'm looking for) my aura and I do exercise. Used to do lots of martial arts back in the day, now I do much less than that but I do Yoga as often as I can.. I can see the benefits on my back's flexibility.Also, if that's of any importance, I always looked much younger than I am, like 10-15 years younger. People always thought I was bullshitting them when I said my age.

Last, perhaps, example I can think of: I had a cyst on my leg once (very probably the result of a very stressful couple of years as I never had anything like that) and I decided I was going to deal with it using the Fire element (I think it's the element one should use for healing now, not just for pyrokinesis and killing, etc). I invoked Fire in the cyst and in one and a half day it was gone. I MIGHT have felt a slight heat from that, but only if I really paid attention, like I usually have to do unless I want to feel nothing.

Regarding your suggestion (focusing on my Clairaudience chakras), I have tried that before.. I only stopped doing it because I didn't feel the slightest energy from it, so I thought it wasn't working or I wasn't doing it right, but if the theory that I am 'too accustomed' to energy is correct (and I'm thinking you may be 100% right here) I am definitely going to give it all I've got.Occasionally (VERY rarely), when I lay down before sleeping and try to relax and feel I heard "something". Sometimes it has even scared me because of how it is loud and sudden and short. I've been hearing screams, half said words, loud sounds (like an engine perhaps), and other sounds that make you go WTF and turn around to check who's saying that. I do think I have some sort of Clairaudience then, but whenever I tried to focus on it I'd hear nothing.

One example (that I consider my best attempt perhaps) was a night when I was feeling particularly vengeful towards some asshole neighbor, and I focused on my third eye deciding that I had to find some way to "kill with the third eye"... don't know what I was thinking, honestly, but it felt right. The morning after, upon awakening, I had my eyes closed but saw a beautiful Demoness above me (like sitting on my lap, or floating.. your pick). She had very white skin and slicked back hair, incredible dark eyes with no white in them (sure you read this description before) and a very feminine body with red flaming tattoos on her face, chest and arms. I managed to mentally ask "What's your name?" and she answered in my mind "Aares". Then my astral sight blurred and she was gone. I repeated the sound of her voice in my mind until it made sense (I was super surprised because it was the first time I could speak WITH a Demon) but I convinced myself the name I heard was written as "Haures" (Flauros). I went and read her physical description, hoping there'd be one in the JoS website, and found she was pretty similar to the one I saw. My only fear was that I might have misunderstood the name becaues of the longer "A", I thought I might had somehow missed a "G" and that the name was "Agares", but later when I focused again and allowed my mind to be as receptive as I could (this only worked a small number of times) I'd seen something that suggested "Haures" was the name.. something that had to do with Fire, mostly, because that's how I remembered about Her, as the Demoness who protected the mage by burning the enemies.

So yes, your suggestion and link (and theory/observation) are probably correct. I'm going to try this again and see where it leads to.

I was doing again (and again) the chakras awakenings, feeling little to nothing only when I vibrated the sound long enough, but I'm thinking I should focus on tuning them now, instead of trying to wake them up over and over again.

Dude, sorry, I ended up writing another novel.. (at least in this forum I see others doing the same lol). Hope it wasn't too boring to read.

Thank you so very much for your thought and ideas. I think you may be correct, on everything. I'll focus on the Clairaudience (and Clairvoyance as well) chakras and see if I get somewhere new.

Oh, before I forget and have to do another post.. Do you recommend any particular mantra/Rune to vibrate while focusing on these? If not I'll just go for "AUM" (or THAUM, or the B-B-B-B sound that sounds like the bees buzzing from HP Maxine's audio on the crown chakra).

One thing (very quickly) that I forgot and that I JUST re-realized. I don't know it it's any important or not, but from someone who feels so rarely and little energy it might be.

When I wear rings (especially if made of some natural stone, but metal has the same effect) after days since I begin wearing them I feel a 'blockage' forming in the finger, even if the ring is not tight at all, and if I don't remove the finger this begins to hurt. Not hurting as in making my finger ache, it's something like an inner pressure building up, like a headache in the finger so to speak.

I had one on as I wrote the other reply and then begun reading HP HoodedCobra's "Revelation" file, when I had to stop to access this pain. Tried to ignore it, but it didn't cease. If anything it grew. Had to remove the ring and it is just now starting to lessen in pain. This has happened before, but I thought it was only with the natural stones (like tiger's eye rings). I feel that the ring MAY have acted like a clamp for energy, keeping it from flowing freely.

Just thought I'd add that if it is of any use understanding how my body/aura/soul work.

If you are advanced from past lives, you absolutely need to open, clean and empower all of the chakras, including the minor ones. This in time reveals to you everything you need to know and also reveal abilities that you haven't used in years or decades. Routine and in depth empowerment.

I had as little as 7 years old ability to electrocute people, then I didn't. After plus 15 years of nothingness with up to 1 year of empowerment, and I won't lie the Serpent too, everything came in place and also the conscious aspect of it.

If you were to tell what indirectly could you have done, I would maybe help you from a technical point of doing things. I am a fan of these. Sexual energy is a key in empowering these. Also if you have blockages this will definitely block the abilities too.

From what I can tell by what you wrote, you are very expansive, and if it's true, you have to contain a little yourself when doing empowering work. And as far as meditations go, do the RAUM meditation at least 3 times a day, start chakra breathing, and work towards rising energy and applying it t your soul.

Program the Dagaz rune to help you find out the problem if you have one. Also combine runes for awareness of the energies.

Note: apologies if some parts in my previous messages make no sense (just read them in the way you know they'd make sense). I think I discovered my 'system' or whatever is auto-correcting some words, making it seem like I can't even speak English. Sorry about the trouble.

The easiest way of finding out if you have a powerful aura and soul for abilities is to extinguish a candle fire. If you can do that and you don't feel energy I suggest other approaches in this problem you say you have, after safe checking with a lot of sessions of full chakra meditation with full concentration and Sanskrit vibrations. I suggest at least double digits repetitions for every chakra, but be aware that the power of a single vibration differs from people to people.

Also again awareness of the energy is to be pursued separately as meditations. How the energy is perceived is individually different from other. You don't stop meditations and workings because you think it is not working, it's a nonsense considering you were the initiator of said miracle, and won't pursue any path of advancement routinely.

If you healed others connecting to them directly, which you did from what you wrote, is extremely bad if you didn't extremely clean yourself after and before. People died healing others like this.

And regarding the relations with Gods, desiring conversations with them is a beautiful one and understandable, but at the same time the relations between them is to be built in time, and not shortcut anything. You are the one who has to work towards them, so this is not a question of when but a question of how. And how is answered by power meditation, as the times of relations are continual existent and building in time. Enjoy the journey as it has no end, past a point you have no excuses in empowering to that state.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:why I find it so hard to answer the question myself.

Firstly, Thank You for taking the time to write these posts. It almost feels like the story of my life with some exceptions. I'm going to write down some random points I deem relevant to the topic at hand.

• I dedicated a month or two before the Final RTR was launched. The day before the launching of the Final RTR, I had asked Satan that I really wanted to help and what could I do. Reading the Forum next day I was like voilà. Jumped right in and didn't look back.

• I was never seriously into the xian system. My parents had me baptized because they didn't know better. That doesn't mean that I didn't mess around with various enemy systems but I never went deep. Natural forces (Satan) always felt more familiar and right.

• I am able to manipulate the weather too. Keeping the rain out when it is not needed, anchoring a thundercloud on the horizon, stopping high winds... not 100% success rate but I've had my moments.

• Once I chanted some random curses about a person who had wronged me yet again. It was a sunny and warm spring day, no wind. Then all of a sudden wind picked up and I saw a large dust whirl hitting this person from behind and then dissolving. Then all went quiet again. It all transpired in seconds.

• I did opening the chakras meditations. The only thing I could really FEEL was my root chakra area heating up.

• When I was attracting a new vehicle, I felt that, while sleeping and waking up, my solar plexus area was really tense and on the verge of being painful. I was victorious thanks to the Powers of Hell backing me up and got the financing for the vehicle I needed.

• Many times people don't believe me when I tell them my age. Also, I feel like I'm maturing more slowly. I can say, in retrospect, that at age 20 I was still a toddler, at 30 I was a teenager and now at 40+ I feel like this is the way I should have felt back when I was 22.

• I can't say that I feel the energies like described in JoS texts. I'm speculating that this may actually be a good thing because of the work I do, places I have to visit etc. Imagine being unable to perform because you are overwhelmed by your reactions to different (negative) energies, feeling constantly drained. I can certainly feel the density of city environment, chock full of various cellular radiation, big egos etc. I can also appreciate calming and uplifting ambience of a pine forest, for example.

• It appears that I'm and empath. This means that I can feel other peoples emotions, disappointment, anger, love etc. and I tend to suck their emotions into myself by default. This is draining. Peace of mind for me usually begins with 4 words: not my fucking business.

• For a very long time I felt that I don't belong. After finding JoS I feel that I actually do belong. For many, this is a path of mental solitude. It is only thanks to the Internet (666) that we are able to communicate.

• Pretty much all my life I've felt like I'm waiting for something important to happen which is not under my control. Until then, I'm on standby. I don't know what that is and frankly, I'm done torturing myself with various thoughts and ideas about this subject. Some guys say that the idea of life is living: sleep, eat, copulate and find something to do. I disagree. I feel that I'm destined to greatness and I have an important mission. If I could only remember what that is. The combined power of reincarnation amnesia and enemy astral spells must be really strong. Most of the time I have disliked my etrepreneurial workload, feeling that this leaves me very little energy to invest into evolving myself. I'm proud of myself and actually feel good when I have a day off and can do multiple RTRs and other workings, utilizing proper planetary hours.

For now, I just keep up the daily RTR duty, try to keep myself squeaky clean and evolve myself + yoga.

In closing, stay strong, brother/sister. The answers will come for us, just have to dig deeper, I guess.

In a generalized sense, there are only really two possible things that can prevent you almost completely from feeling energies.The first is lack of sensitivity. Whatever the cause behind it may be, if you have very bad sensitivity to energies then you wont be able to feel them. The Laguz rune fixes this and grants enhanced energy sensitivity in every way.The second is internal blockages / fear. For example traumatic events relating to you feeling energies. This causes subconscious reactions against feeling energy. The Wunjo rune gives gentle relief of fear and traumas, so we can calm our mind and focus.

A simple solution would be to start a working of vibrating "Wunjo Laguz" for a certain number of times every day, with an affirmation like "In a positive way for me, I always feel my energies in full detail whenever I want to, NOW, continuously, and forever.".I would recommend starting this working on Monday, February 24th, with the Moon in Pisces.Look into the planetary hours of that day and try to start the working during the hour of the Moon. You can find the planetary hours on https://lunarium.co.uk/planets/hours.jsp.Planetary hours are location specific, so make sure to enter the place closest to you for accurate times.

As for how many repetitions of the mantra would be best, it has been said before by HP Mageson666 that the number 13 rules the psychic senses. Therefore I would recommend 130 reps of "Wunjo Laguz", if that kind of amount is possible for you.If you want to do less than this, you could do 108 reps, 80 reps, or 50 reps. Also, you can alternatively vibrate the two runes one after the other, so instead of doing for example 108x "Wunjo Laguz", you could do 108x Wunjo and then 108x Laguz. This is mostly personal preference. For me, when I do large amounts of vibrations with multiple runes, I like to vibrate them as a mantra (like "Wunjo Laguz") so that I keep a better feel of both of their energies. That's why this method would be my personal recommendation, but both do work.

Let me know if anything is unclear or if you have questions. Good luck and I hope you will feel your energies nicely soon.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Oh, before I forget and have to do another post.. Do you recommend any particular mantra/Rune to vibrate while focusing on these? If not I'll just go for "AUM" (or THAUM, or the B-B-B-B sound that sounds like the bees buzzing from HP Maxine's audio on the crown chakra).

HAIL SATAN!!!!

For the minor points of astral sight/hearing on the head, and the watchtowers in the head, use "THAUM" to unblock them fully over time. Also, a very long dragged out "MMMMMMMM" sound vibrated into your head as a whole is very helpful. Usually you'd vibrate it until out of breath (comfortably) and repeat that a couple of times.

nakedhill wrote:If you are advanced from past lives, you absolutely need to open, clean and empower all of the chakras, including the minor ones. This in time reveals to you everything you need to know and also reveal abilities that you haven't used in years or decades. Routine and in depth empowerment.

I had as little as 7 years old ability to electrocute people, then I didn't. After plus 15 years of nothingness with up to 1 year of empowerment, and I won't lie the Serpent too, everything came in place and also the conscious aspect of it.

If you were to tell what indirectly could you have done, I would maybe help you from a technical point of doing things. I am a fan of these. Sexual energy is a key in empowering these. Also if you have blockages this will definitely block the abilities too.

From what I can tell by what you wrote, you are very expansive, and if it's true, you have to contain a little yourself when doing empowering work. And as far as meditations go, do the RAUM meditation at least 3 times a day, start chakra breathing, and work towards rising energy and applying it t your soul.

Program the Dagaz rune to help you find out the problem if you have one. Also combine runes for awareness of the energies.

Completely agree with everything you said. I feel that there's blockages I haven't dealt with yet, but just lately (like in the last couple of months basically) I definitely feel an improvement when chanting mantras. The new "AUM" series and the B-B-B-B buzzing sound for the crown chakra worked best so far. I think it's mostly about the pitch of each sound, like HP Maxine said, that we need to experiment with and find the correct one. The way she does them in the audio files helped greatly, but I still need to adjust my voice higher/lower for a good effect. When I finally manage to feel my brain being flooded in the vibration and my third eye (usually that's the one I feel best, when I do feel something) allowing me to notice that sense of pressure, I know it's working.

As I said, I think it's probably about tuning them instead of opening them. I don't think I would have been able to do any of the things I have done if they weren't already open since long enough and working so that I can deliver that energy and program it to do the various things I could do (and it still baffles me how I could do them because of how it seemed like a natural thing to do).

As for that 'miracle'.. once I told that to someone who simply logged off as an answer and never spoke to me again, so fuck it... I'll tell you.

When I was 14 one day I was sitting on a dock. Some idiotic teens a few meters away from me were trying to spear fish, laughing, and I saw one fish being 'broken in half'. I love animals so very much, I even avoid killing very venomous spiders if I can (if I find them in places I won't likely go to) and I try to respect all life, plant, insect, animal and human as much as I can, so seeing a fish killed for nothing started seriously making me angry. Next, they caught another, smaller fish. They gutted it for fun, and then tossed the carcass in the water. I was furious. But when I was about to say something or leave, I noticed the dead fish floating on the water getting close to my location, brought by the current. It was dead, guts hanged out of its body and floated beside it. I felt no longer furious but full of pity, love for it. So I did something I myself wasn't expecting or planning. My right hand found a pebble and grabbed it. I tossed it in the water close to the fish and mentally said "Live". The pebble made circular tiny waves, and when they touched the fish, it swam away, fast, towards the bottom.

I was fucking astonished. That's also the same day I had all my doubts about the existence of 'magic' as a very real thing completely wiped away. Wasn't a SS yet, but when I finally found the JoS website I just knew things would make sense one day.

There, hope it wasn't too much to take in, that's one reason I generally avoid talking about it. And that's also why I feel so stupid not being able to feel energies, as I believe that someone who can do this just has no excuse for not knowing about more basic stuff.

As for the RAUM meditation (the one starting from the root chakra if I remember correctly), I think that leads me to another piece of information. A lot of the times when I couldn't feel my chakras and managed to give up on the awakenings in distress, I'd start with the third eye, then crown, then down the spine as it's explained in the JoS (the sixth chakra was still at the bottom of the list when I started this), so not all the times I got to try the root mantra and mudra and feel something there, in the lower chakras.The RAUM meditation starts with the root and goes upwards instead, so I'm thinking that MAY use my sexual energy to stimulate better than upper chakras.And I'm thinking this could be particularly helpful because one of the few times I 'could definitely feel a chakra', it was the first and second. That same night (as I had done this chakra work, simply spinning them harder) I had a lucid dream too, so I'm thinking this could be a good thing to keep up (I tried it again after that but to no avail.. will try it again now with the mantras and runes as well).

Regarding the putting out the candle, I tried that a few times but didn't put it out. I managed to make it "dance".. the flame would circle reacting to my energy, but it takes a lot of concentration and doesn't always work. Same with telekinesis, I can't control the object but I feel it's reacting to me. This was in total absence of air currents... something else that instead made me THINK I had accomplished telekinesis was when I tried the "psi wheel" exercise, as they call it (the folded umbrella paper on top of a needle), and I made the thing move by moving the air in the room (I had forgot to close a door). This suggested I could manipulate air to a degree.. it happened again when I made a door slam by creating a current visualizing the air in a spiral. This may have to do with weather manipulation too.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Oh, before I forget and have to do another post.. Do you recommend any particular mantra/Rune to vibrate while focusing on these? If not I'll just go for "AUM" (or THAUM, or the B-B-B-B sound that sounds like the bees buzzing from HP Maxine's audio on the crown chakra).

HAIL SATAN!!!!

For the minor points of astral sight/hearing on the head, and the watchtowers in the head, use "THAUM" to unblock them fully over time. Also, a very long dragged out "MMMMMMMM" sound vibrated into your head as a whole is very helpful. Usually you'd vibrate it until out of breath (comfortably) and repeat that a couple of times.

Thank you for your advice, I really dig the MMMMMM vibration. When I use the AUMs (THAUM, MAUM, YAUM, etc) I generally feel the strongest interaction in my head mostly when I use the first and last sounds in the mantra, so for example TH and M, instead of A (lowest interaction). The UUUU is not bad either but it pitches in vibrational power when I close my lips and use the MMM for as long as I can exhale comfortably.

Do any of you feel the open vowels as weaker compared to sounds such as consonants especially with closed lips?

nakedhill wrote:The easiest way of finding out if you have a powerful aura and soul for abilities is to extinguish a candle fire. If you can do that and you don't feel energy I suggest other approaches in this problem you say you have, after safe checking with a lot of sessions of full chakra meditation with full concentration and Sanskrit vibrations. I suggest at least double digits repetitions for every chakra, but be aware that the power of a single vibration differs from people to people.

Also again awareness of the energy is to be pursued separately as meditations. How the energy is perceived is individually different from other. You don't stop meditations and workings because you think it is not working, it's a nonsense considering you were the initiator of said miracle, and won't pursue any path of advancement routinely.

If you healed others connecting to them directly, which you did from what you wrote, is extremely bad if you didn't extremely clean yourself after and before. People died healing others like this.

And regarding the relations with Gods, desiring conversations with them is a beautiful one and understandable, but at the same time the relations between them is to be built in time, and not shortcut anything. You are the one who has to work towards them, so this is not a question of when but a question of how. And how is answered by power meditation, as the times of relations are continual existent and building in time. Enjoy the journey as it has no end, past a point you have no excuses in empowering to that state.

(Continuation as I didn't get enough time to properly reply before)

Regarding the healing of others, I always cleaned myself before and after that. Occasionally I tried to give them much more energy and attention than they required just so I could 'tire' myself and observe some change in me (HP Maxine advises only to breath out energy in order to learn how to do this or to empower a talisman or healing, so I thought I'd notice a change) but I never felt any loss in energy amount, nor did I feel tired or depressed or got sick from doing it.At some point I thought these friends I healed were simply experiencing a self induced placebo effect and that I was a fool to think I could heal anything. If I hadn't done that which I explained with the fish I would probably have convinced myself that I was deluded.

As for building a proper relationship with the Gods, I feel that it is my fault for not trying harder, thinking that my inability to feel 'great and amazing' energy surges, like others had reported when trying meditations like the Mer Ka Ba or Pineal meditation etc, was a reason to believe I wouldn't have been successful anyway. Stupid of me, I know. I was getting pretty desperate. (Especially when SOME idiots I had known would report seeing Father or a Demon but then chose NOT to pursue the path of an SS. Sometimes even slandering our Gods. I don't know if these people were nuts or scared by the enemy, but no excuse would be good enough to willingly refuse our amazing Gods.)

In a generalized sense, there are only really two possible things that can prevent you almost completely from feeling energies.The first is lack of sensitivity. Whatever the cause behind it may be, if you have very bad sensitivity to energies then you wont be able to feel them. The Laguz rune fixes this and grants enhanced energy sensitivity in every way.The second is internal blockages / fear. For example traumatic events relating to you feeling energies. This causes subconscious reactions against feeling energy. The Wunjo rune gives gentle relief of fear and traumas, so we can calm our mind and focus.

A simple solution would be to start a working of vibrating "Wunjo Laguz" for a certain number of times every day, with an affirmation like "In a positive way for me, I always feel my energies in full detail whenever I want to, NOW, continuously, and forever.".I would recommend starting this working on Monday, February 24th, with the Moon in Pisces.Look into the planetary hours of that day and try to start the working during the hour of the Moon. You can find the planetary hours on https://lunarium.co.uk/planets/hours.jsp.Planetary hours are location specific, so make sure to enter the place closest to you for accurate times.

As for how many repetitions of the mantra would be best, it has been said before by HP Mageson666 that the number 13 rules the psychic senses. Therefore I would recommend 130 reps of "Wunjo Laguz", if that kind of amount is possible for you.If you want to do less than this, you could do 108 reps, 80 reps, or 50 reps. Also, you can alternatively vibrate the two runes one after the other, so instead of doing for example 108x "Wunjo Laguz", you could do 108x Wunjo and then 108x Laguz. This is mostly personal preference. For me, when I do large amounts of vibrations with multiple runes, I like to vibrate them as a mantra (like "Wunjo Laguz") so that I keep a better feel of both of their energies. That's why this method would be my personal recommendation, but both do work.

Let me know if anything is unclear or if you have questions. Good luck and I hope you will feel your energies nicely soon.

Thank you so much for the help, you may be right on both theories on why I don't feel energy.A lack of sensitivity is what I always thought of to be completely honest, I just never understood why on Earth I would put myself through any possible training program or meditation and felt nothing. I do feel however that asking you guys in this forum was a VERY good idea, as you're all giving me great advice and bringing new ideas to mind.The fear/blockages: I THINK I only ever feared astrally seeing because of how the movie trash depicted ghosts and unknown entities. I knew that Demons did NOT look anything like those creepy images but somewhere in my mind I feel that this conditioning has worked in some way. For that reason, I think, I never considered working with spirits of the deceased, only with Demons as they are the only ones I trust. I feel lucky enough that, in my severe lack of experience, I met a few of our Gods a couple times. (Not that this means I'm going to stop there lol.)

Thank you for suggesting the "Wunjo Laguz" as a mantra, I tried it a few times before replying to you and it feels very balanced, a good combination.

Only one quick question regarding pronunciation: when you get to the Z in Laguz, do you also use the vocal cords (that would allow you to vibrate a DS sound) or does it sound like a snake's sound (only emitting air between tongue and hard palate, sounding like a TS) instead?

I felt as if the latter (TS) one defines better the end of the mantra, as a clean change, but it doesn't get to my head chakras from what I can tell.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:why I find it so hard to answer the question myself.

Firstly, Thank You for taking the time to write these posts. It almost feels like the story of my life with some exceptions. I'm going to write down some random points I deem relevant to the topic at hand.

• I dedicated a month or two before the Final RTR was launched. The day before the launching of the Final RTR, I had asked Satan that I really wanted to help and what could I do. Reading the Forum next day I was like voilà. Jumped right in and didn't look back.

• I was never seriously into the xian system. My parents had me baptized because they didn't know better. That doesn't mean that I didn't mess around with various enemy systems but I never went deep. Natural forces (Satan) always felt more familiar and right.

• I am able to manipulate the weather too. Keeping the rain out when it is not needed, anchoring a thundercloud on the horizon, stopping high winds... not 100% success rate but I've had my moments.

• Once I chanted some random curses about a person who had wronged me yet again. It was a sunny and warm spring day, no wind. Then all of a sudden wind picked up and I saw a large dust whirl hitting this person from behind and then dissolving. Then all went quiet again. It all transpired in seconds.

• I did opening the chakras meditations. The only thing I could really FEEL was my root chakra area heating up.

• When I was attracting a new vehicle, I felt that, while sleeping and waking up, my solar plexus area was really tense and on the verge of being painful. I was victorious thanks to the Powers of Hell backing me up and got the financing for the vehicle I needed.

• Many times people don't believe me when I tell them my age. Also, I feel like I'm maturing more slowly. I can say, in retrospect, that at age 20 I was still a toddler, at 30 I was a teenager and now at 40+ I feel like this is the way I should have felt back when I was 22.

• I can't say that I feel the energies like described in JoS texts. I'm speculating that this may actually be a good thing because of the work I do, places I have to visit etc. Imagine being unable to perform because you are overwhelmed by your reactions to different (negative) energies, feeling constantly drained. I can certainly feel the density of city environment, chock full of various cellular radiation, big egos etc. I can also appreciate calming and uplifting ambience of a pine forest, for example.

• It appears that I'm and empath. This means that I can feel other peoples emotions, disappointment, anger, love etc. and I tend to suck their emotions into myself by default. This is draining. Peace of mind for me usually begins with 4 words: not my fucking business.

• For a very long time I felt that I don't belong. After finding JoS I feel that I actually do belong. For many, this is a path of mental solitude. It is only thanks to the Internet (666) that we are able to communicate.

• Pretty much all my life I've felt like I'm waiting for something important to happen which is not under my control. Until then, I'm on standby. I don't know what that is and frankly, I'm done torturing myself with various thoughts and ideas about this subject. Some guys say that the idea of life is living: sleep, eat, copulate and find something to do. I disagree. I feel that I'm destined to greatness and I have an important mission. If I could only remember what that is. The combined power of reincarnation amnesia and enemy astral spells must be really strong. Most of the time I have disliked my etrepreneurial workload, feeling that this leaves me very little energy to invest into evolving myself. I'm proud of myself and actually feel good when I have a day off and can do multiple RTRs and other workings, utilizing proper planetary hours.

For now, I just keep up the daily RTR duty, try to keep myself squeaky clean and evolve myself + yoga.

In closing, stay strong, brother/sister. The answers will come for us, just have to dig deeper, I guess.

Thank You for making me feel less abnormal. I waited to answer this reply last as I felt you and I are very similar and wanted to dedicate my answer the time it deserves.

I feel almost like I could have written your post myself lol.The weather connection, I can feel you know what you're doing and that it comes out natural, as if it's simply something you were born with. Lately I have learned that one of the Demons I have previously met (and She confirmed this a few times, last time showing me Her very sigil telepathically), Leraje, rules the air and winds and can change the weather, among other things. This really clicked for me, you might want to try get to know Her if you haven't already. She's, with all probability, the most beautiful female being I have ever seen, looking VERY Egyptian too (I just have a thing for Ancient Egypt).

Your experience with the root chakra and solar plexus heating up/aching resembles mine (with the root and sacral both) as I ever truly felt only those in one occasion. I didn't pursue this much for a reason: as I deemed myself always a beginner I kept trying to work my way down starting with upper chakras (third eye, crown, throat, and down) keeping the root last, but I'm wondering now if I shouldn't just disregard these basic rules and experiment in a way that makes more sense to me. I'll definitely try to vibrate mantras and Runes there now.

The age thing.. I can totally relate. I'm in my almost 40s now but feel like I just now enter puberty, more or less. Felt like I was a child until a couple years back, just now beginning to seriously consider becoming anything closer to a man. Might talk about my sex life here lol but I'll spare you this time.

And I completely understand what you mean being an empath, being glad you don't feel that much around people, picking up 'different' energies like egos, city density and such, and how it feels so much better when immersed in Nature, within forests.

Something I should add on this matter: (sorry if it's too long)Over the last couple of years I have become very aware of SOME spirits. Still not the Gods unfortunately, but this has helped me in some ways, even concerning my safety once.Because I had at some point given in and bought the bullshit someone told me in a very picturesque way (she was delusional, nuts and definitely a strong psychic vampire, although highly intelligent and cultured), promising that she could have taught me how to feel energy for sure (I know, I know.. I was a moron), I started some weird meditation that involved focusing on pain and fear. Pain didn't work well (not on purpose), but I could definitely use fear to trigger this. Basically, I've always been terrified of 'sea depths', like when the water gets darker and darker, so I meditated by visualizing myself submerging and sinking in deeper and deeper waters. One night I decided to visualize something one can never physically do, and I "sat cross legged on the bottom of the ocean in front of the Titanic's bow" and touched it with one hand.I think in one moment my fear of where I 'was' was wiped out of my mind and I begun to feel something from the sunken ship, like a faint consciousness.. So I remembered about the "Merging Astral Consciousness" exercise (one that I always liked very much) and I tried to link myself to the Titanic. I don't know how many tried that exercise or merging with objects, but in some very odd way one night say they are alive.I felt the ship's rage towards the men who sunk it, the fear it felt when it last touched air, and I also saw a symbol that suggested the sinking was definitely NOT an accident.After that experience I started experimenting with either various 'inanimate' objects and with plants, feeling their strange, unheard spirits' vibration. The most amazing to this day was definitely the plant kingdom, as I don't think it's possible to merge with a plant and not feel, in some amount, the rest of the 'world root network', as I begun calling it, as every plant is connected to every other plant underground and it makes the planet's root system seem like one gigantic brain. Even potted plants have some sort of telepathy with the others.So while I should have probably cursed the name of that bastard who used me to have some sadistic fun, I decided she wasn't worth it and had somehow, involuntarily done me a favor. What she claimed she could do was utter bullshit but because of that experience I could learn a few things I had never considered.One last example of this concerns machines: I work in a relatively dangerous place where some piece of equipment might blow up (if one doesn't report damage and faulty things), and one day I had this odd feeling that the main machine was telling me to stay away from an area. I did, and I didn't use that equipment. The day after I was told that the part blew up and I knew that I had been warned for a reason. Things like these kept happening, mostly when I paid more attention, but I started to 'talk' to machines, like promising I'd refuel the day after or locating them where it feels there's less electrical surges as I feel they don't like it too strong.

So yeah... for someone who started this topic with 'I can't feel' I said 'I could feel' quite a few times lol.

But it's always some energy or emotions or very subtle something that in no real way helps me connecting with our Gods, or evolve spiritually in a quantifiable way to me.

I hope that wasn't excruciatingly boring to read, for it sure was long.

From all these replies, however, I think one thing is pretty clear. I must work a lot more with mantras and Runes (as I feel an effect from them) and must focus on my astral senses related chakras, so the Clairaudience and Clairvoyance ones.

Thank you all so much for your help, I can't wait to write a new topic saying I was successful.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Only one quick question regarding pronunciation: when you get to the Z in Laguz, do you also use the vocal cords (that would allow you to vibrate a DS sound) or does it sound like a snake's sound (only emitting air between tongue and hard palate, sounding like a TS) instead?

I felt as if the latter (TS) one defines better the end of the mantra, as a clean change, but it doesn't get to my head chakras from what I can tell.

[/quote]I highly recommend looking into the Runic Kabalah mp3 files, which can be found here https://www.dropbox.com/s/hrejp9gwxovoq ... s.rar?dl=1. Just vibrate them exactly like Maxine does. Also, the Runic Kabalah PDF has instructions on how to pronounce them, as well.[/quote]

Thank You, Brother. I didn't realize there were mp3 files even there now, that's certainly helpful. Sorry for the question then, I opened the Runic Kabalah page last night and then went to sleep postponing reading it again in the morning. Been so busy between all the mantra vibrations and yoga and the Final RTR, but I think I'm slightly improving in some way: the AUM series definitely has done something new to my perception I guess, I mostly feel the tingly third eye and some activity from my head chakras, yesterday I have finally felt my root chakra when vibrating LAUM (still have to experiment properly with Dagaz, Wunjo and also Thor).And something else that I wasn't really expecting, last night after trying to get the feel for a Succubus/Demoness Lover (as I've done the ritual many years ago but couldn't feel anything so far), by trying to focus on my sense of touch instead of trying desperately to see and hear (allowing these to come in time), I had one of my very short visions and saw the face of a beautiful brunette.. just for a moment. Thing is, she looked angry/pissed.. I hope it's not because I've failed to find her all this time, from what I read Father Satan wouldn't allow a Succubus/Incubus to someone who's not ready to receive them properly, astral senses and all.And even more odd thing: during the course of the next dream, at some point the dream "split in two", as I felt it wasn't a dream but a vision between dreams, and I saw her on top of me in my bed while she laid naked on top of me and ..you know.. proceeded to getting penetrated. I "felt" this to some degree so I can tell it was no dream.. and unlike the angry face I had seen before sleeping, this time she looked at me with a serious, kinda horny face one might say. Like she had forgiven me after the angry face and decided to join me.

Until this day I don't think that something like this every happened to me. The only similar event was when I woke up one morning and as I relaxed in bed I saw Haures for the very first time.. the "surroundings" were pretty much the same, like a room within a room, but more spacious and intimate. I don't know if that explanation makes sense.. as I said this isn't something that happened often at all, and I'm actually kind of surprised that I remembered this now because the rest of the dream (since I saw her the second time) got gradually kinda sexy until I woke up.

So, bottom line, I wish I had found this forum sooner lol. After the Yahoo groups were filled with attacks and I saw the JoS pages starting to become unavailable at times I just started to save on file all I could (there wasn't a Library yet I think so I had to copy paste everything and save images and sigils.. quite a bit of work) and I meditated like crazy, but shit in my life started to happen fast and basically I got stuck in it.Now I'm finally out of it almost completely and I'm happy to see these first results coming after such a long time.

I understand that you must be pretty enthusastic right now, but try not to start too many new things all at once. Focus on one or two at a time, go slow and steady. Nothing is gonna run away from you and you have all the time in the world to test and explore.

Regarding a potential Succubus, your experience sounds potentially real in my opinion. Take your time and work on your senses and sensitivity, keep an open mind and dont take harmful advice from any astral entity. As long as you do that, it should all become clear in time. It's entirely possible to receive a Succubus partner even if you are not open yet when asking. There are a lot of factors that go into these things, and a Succubus may choose you even knowing that she might have to wait years until you develop yourself enough to interact with her. The Gods can predict the future (or future possibilites to be exact) very accurately, so these things are easy to see for them. Especially for Satan, who oversees all of these requests for obvious reasons.

That being said, waiting years for your partner to notice you still isn't fun, so try to consistently improve your astral senses and sensitivity from now on so that if you do have a Succubus, you can actually start interacting with her a bit.

Well, my only suggestion to the happening you had as a 14 year old, is to account it as a sign by the Gods, if it took such a stance in to your life, only when you’re more spiritually open and knowledgeable you can find out what happened. Have you taken in the account that what you did was only just a last impulse thrown to the fish? The fish after they are dead they are blasting still full of nerve life, even in the pan. The nice part somehow is that similarly I had an experience with a dead animal bought back to life to my full blown wonder, but it was hit by an accident by my hand, crying it to be brought back to life, it was..but not by me, by the gods, before I was a conscious SS. This wasn’t shared to anyone till now, only to relate to you. I respect what you said so I won’t try to fragment a possible real/unreal explanation or idea as it has no sense in what is to be done in the future. Advancement , and this gets you answers. Opinions of others does not matter when it is a problem of correlation, cause and effect, as you won’t take it in to your truth.

I know these happenings are haunting by their unusual character to the majority of the people, but if they are to be used, they are to be used to enter deeper into the understanding of the world and life. This is why you are here also. So this desiring nature to go deeper into the understanding is to also apply what you understand.

The position you are now it’s not so hard to leave, as you said you start to get some results. Just do them routinely everyday. You said you were crushed by the inability of feeling energy, considering this is a “newbie” thing, you had a conflict between what you think you are , somehow correlates to your subjective reality, and the reality of not having the basics. This conflict must not be entertained by the mind but only by proved actions, if it’s the case. Experiment ways of demonstrating to yourself , undoubtedly the power of your soul. If it is not demonstrated this conflict and miscommunication must not create conflict anymore. Indifferently you are to meditate, so any old expectations are to be disrupted and based only by a routine and a knowing.The present is what matters

This aspect is about knowing yourself. Astrology helps you enormous in knowing and understanding yourself, and there too you can find possible powers of the soul already matured only to be awakened.

Fire Flame - It is nice to hear that you made it dance. To have some suggestions here regarding this, yes the dancing can be made by the aura or just the air and heat of the hand, if it’s close enough. But the give away that you are really on the path on doing it, is when the fire starts to fickle and that’s the hardest part to go past too. The light almost going out and being again revived and again and again stimulates your eyes and you may lose concentration, when it’s most needed. A technique that may be helpful to some here and to you is to first enter a light trance, activate your hand chakras, you can draw energy from heart chakra to the hands. Concentrate on the fire and inhale in to the base of the fire black energy, 10-20 breaths. Then visualize a black cube or pointed down pyramid (spinning if you like) on the fire, and for 5 -10 minutes concentrate on making the light black with the geometrical black object, pushing blackness from the hands too. The hands will feel magnetic not electric. In the 5-10 minutes I also inhale black energy in to the flame. The flickering, will start, and when it starts it will be rhythmical, at that point you have to peak concentration, not lose it and force it by will, intention to die out. If you manage to do it for a split second the fire won’t revive after. To rush the process to the flickering state, concentrate on just making the flame completely black and hold that blackness 2-3 seconds by complete concentration. I would say directly that the eyes must be on the flame, not closed for concentration. The eyes are a pathway of power. You may feel extreme pressure into the pineal gland , 6th and 7th chakra, you could draw that pressure to the flame.

Regarding the telekinesis, I will say completely against the usual psi wheel training, to ignore any small improvements it is thought to be made by those exercises. In my humble opinion, to perform telekinesis, heart chakra must be very powerful, and understanding of the surroundings must be complete without any body senses. You have to anchor yourself to the object, such doing this the heaviness doesn't matter so much, but the size of the object. The “anchor” thing is felt in the whole body, you don’t feel your hand attached to that, but the whole body. I think all the chakras must be very powerful, but the magnetics as feelings must come out of the heart chakras. Numbness in the shoulders is a good sign. Telekinesis is very hard to do because either lack of power or lack of feeling the system and how, or both. The training is to develop the conscious aspect of it with the applied power, it is not so progressive but explosive, not as the method but as the progress is going.

But all of the above with a strong powerful aura that must be someway understood, felt and used.

Weather manipulation, I don’t know a thing about that, only some happenings that I call a coincidence or intuition.

I understand that you must be pretty enthusastic right now, but try not to start too many new things all at once. Focus on one or two at a time, go slow and steady. Nothing is gonna run away from you and you have all the time in the world to test and explore.

Regarding a potential Succubus, your experience sounds potentially real in my opinion. Take your time and work on your senses and sensitivity, keep an open mind and dont take harmful advice from any astral entity. As long as you do that, it should all become clear in time. It's entirely possible to receive a Succubus partner even if you are not open yet when asking. There are a lot of factors that go into these things, and a Succubus may choose you even knowing that she might have to wait years until you develop yourself enough to interact with her. The Gods can predict the future (or future possibilites to be exact) very accurately, so these things are easy to see for them. Especially for Satan, who oversees all of these requests for obvious reasons.

That being said, waiting years for your partner to notice you still isn't fun, so try to consistently improve your astral senses and sensitivity from now on so that if you do have a Succubus, you can actually start interacting with her a bit.

You're absolutely right, I have been very optimistic ever since I started receiving the first replies on this forum. Maybe that's also a good thing in part, because sometimes I had even thought that I "couldn't" develope these senses I aim for, that maybe my aura was powerful, I could have made some things happen, but that I was doomed to feel nothing.. didn't like the thought one bit (wanting to connect with our Gods more than anything) but kept hoping something would change. And call it luck or whatever, since I was directed to various mantras and runes here and begun vibrating them with more conviction and desire than ever, I started feeling some "activation" so to speak. For instance, I was vibrating head chakra mantras at work (when nobody would be close enough and with loud machinery covering for me, to avoid questions) and at some point the entire room seemed to "shift", like the Universe was vibrating differently for a moment, reacting to my vibrating the words. All the while my head resonated with the sound.I'm trying to focus on my astral ears as I was suggested in the first reply here I think, but I am not feeling them much, to the point it's hard to locate them, but I'll keep it up and I'm expecting this to work well in time. My astral eyes vibrate whenever I use mantras/runes so I guess they're probably more open than the ears (but my nose chakras don't vibrate at all yet I can smell astral scents.. so that theory probably doesn't work). We'll just see in time.

As for my Succubus, if I do have one, yes I am looking forward to developing strong senses to work with Her. My only doubt with the whole Succubus topic now is this: HP Maxine suggest in the Succubi/Incubi page to "find a Succubus that is compatible with you" before going monogamous with one, so does that mean I have to interact with many (screwing around pretty much) so that I can notice one in particular and She likes me enough to want to get married?I'm talking about this matter with the easiest effort as I have decided long enough ago that a human partner just wouldn't do for me. When I read HP Maxine's page for the first time in 2001, I think, I already was thinking of monogamous Demon wife over anything else, and I am the personification of loyalty so I don't think I'd ever have troubles being in such relationship.I'm just confused as to what finding a compatible Demoness means. I never was one to "sleep around" (which I'm glad it was a behavior extensively praised in the Third Sex website regarding Spirituality, Love and Sex) so this phrase confused me. Also because, even if I'm not yet married with One only, I feel as if I would almost betray Her by trying to get intimate with more than One in order to find Her.(I even thought of asking Father Satan to choose one for me, knowing He knows all, but if I can feel and see Her I guess we'll just recognize each other when we meet.)

(And wow sorry, maybe I should have started another post, but there's so many on Succubi/Incubi already. Just couldn't find this answer in particular.)

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:My only doubt with the whole Succubus topic now is this: HP Maxine suggest in the Succubi/Incubi page to "find a Succubus that is compatible with you" before going monogamous with one, so does that mean I have to interact with many (screwing around pretty much) so that I can notice one in particular and She likes me enough to want to get married?

No, you definitely do not need to "screw around" or anything like this. Father Satan personally oversees the rituals for Succubi and Incubi to make sure these things are done properly.All you need to make sure of is that you ask Father Satan respectfully to connect you with the most suitable Succubus for yourself, and to specify all of these things to him in the ritual. As I said before, both Father Satan and all the Succubi and Incubi are Gods, and can predict the future very well. Do you think any of them would actually waste their time screwing around with someone to "test" things? Compatibility here is very easy for them to see, so don't worry.

If you do already have a Succubus, then chances are high that she is the best match out there for you by far.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:I had one of my very short visions and saw the face of a beautiful brunette.. just for a moment. Thing is, she looked angry/pissed.. I hope it's not because I've failed to find her all this time, from what I read Father Satan wouldn't allow a Succubus/Incubus to someone who's not ready to receive them properly, astral senses and all.

Be EXTREMELY careful of any astral entity that approaches you. 99% of the time it is NOT a Demon. They will pretend to be your Demon lover so they can steal your energy, give you bad information, yell at you for being a failure and make you feel guilty (and try to get you to give up), set up an emotionally parasitic relationship and then get aggressive when you cut off the relationship, and in general try their hardest to screw you over.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:I waited to answer this reply last as I felt you and I are very similar and wanted to dedicate my answer the time it deserves.

TY for your post. It was far from boring. It's nice to know that there are other similar dudes out there.

I haven't basically had any encounters with Demons yet. I feel that it is disrespectful to summon them 'just for fun'. I have yet to open my astral senses so basically I'm deaf and blind to them. And I don't know what to offer them in return for any favors I might ask.

Years ago, when I was feeling hopeless, exhausted and clinically depressed, I had a very clear vision during sleep. I was standing in darkness with a spotlight above my head and a woman with blonde hair approached me and gave me a warm, comforting hug. She had similar height (I'm 6.3 ft). Her message in my senses was somewhat vague: don't despair, it's gonna be OK. This urged me to try and break the barriers of this NPC life that clearly wasn't working for me. I've read here that Satanic souls differing heavily from your average goyim do stand out on the astral and these are the ones that get harassed the most to make sure they will never rise.

Regarding sex life, mine was quite active when I was in my twenties. I slept around, searching for the One. Finally I found her. I'm one of those who mates for life, so finding the right one wasn't easy. I feel that being faithful and monogamous is the right way for me. I also take my vows seriously.

Regarding empathy, I'm still trying to solve the puzzle. I have developed a kind of mental armor against outsiders that works most of the time but am completely defenseless when it comes to my immediate family. This means that, from time to time, I have to deal with their emotional/energetic sewage. Because they are not dedicated SS, these 'attacks' may be orchestrated by the enemy but I can't say for sure. Instead of being delusional, I'm just trying to maintain a wait-and-see attitude until I learn more. Also, I have to contain myself when it comes to my family and other people close to me because I don't want to harm them.

Just like you, I can sense machines and electronics. I get a clear urge whenever a mechanism needs oil or urgent maintenance. I can make a computer go haywire if I feel strongly irritated and can't contain myself. I used to get check engine light whenever I did AoP on my vehicle. These were caused by random electronic glitches. The codes were nothing serious though and got easily cleared with my handheld scanner.

Both of us have a lot of work to do. Just be careful that you don't thin your energies out by doing too much simultaneously. Take care!

Did you try ?(after breathing exercises I can better feel energy):"Pranayama For Third Eye

This is from the Sanskrit text the Kumbhaka Paddhati. The word Trinetra means third eye in Sanskrit.

Trinetra Kumbhaka:

One should inhale through the left nostril and retain the breath and inhale through the right nostril and retain the breath and then inhale through both nostrils and hold the breath systematically. then retain the breath before exhaling through both nostrils. This is Trinetra Kumbhaka." HP Mageson666 viewtopic.php?f=24&t=29343&p=129468#p129468

What shael did mention with the 13 reps with the mmm sound there was also recently a sermon by HP Mageson666.You have to take the energy from the base chakra(rotate it) over the throuht chakra also spin then send the energy to the point between the two nostrils middle (above phaltrum) hold there 9sec (my suggestion). Then do the mmm sound until out of breath fokus on the middle of your head. after 13 reps do the same but fokus on 3 eye. it should help develop the psychic centers.

No, you definitely do not need to "screw around" or anything like this. Father Satan personally oversees the rituals for Succubi and Incubi to make sure these things are done properly.All you need to make sure of is that you ask Father Satan respectfully to connect you with the most suitable Succubus for yourself, and to specify all of these things to him in the ritual. As I said before, both Father Satan and all the Succubi and Incubi are Gods, and can predict the future very well. Do you think any of them would actually waste their time screwing around with someone to "test" things? Compatibility here is very easy for them to see, so don't worry.

If you do already have a Succubus, then chances are high that she is the best match out there for you by far.[/quote]

That makes a lot of sense.. I guess my main flaw is that being my astral senses still so limited I tend to overthink based on the little information I got and that may lead me completely off road. :/ I'm working harder than ever on these now.

Thank you for all your advice, I hope I can make the difference for myself, and in our fight, soon.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:I had one of my very short visions and saw the face of a beautiful brunette.. just for a moment. Thing is, she looked angry/pissed.. I hope it's not because I've failed to find her all this time, from what I read Father Satan wouldn't allow a Succubus/Incubus to someone who's not ready to receive them properly, astral senses and all.

Be EXTREMELY careful of any astral entity that approaches you. 99% of the time it is NOT a Demon. They will pretend to be your Demon lover so they can steal your energy, give you bad information, yell at you for being a failure and make you feel guilty (and try to get you to give up), set up an emotionally parasitic relationship and then get aggressive when you cut off the relationship, and in general try their hardest to screw you over.

To be honest, the vibe I got from her wasn't the best.. she seemed way too "direct" from my liking, so she/it might have been in just to steal some energy now that you make me think about it. Pitiful attempt though, as I have LOTS of energy and don't get depressed or emotionally manipulated (anymore at least, have been in the past and I had to close that chapter of my life for good), and there is no way that I will ever give up on Father Satan and our Gods.

Again, my only solution is to empower my senses and tell things for myself. And with anything that I am new to or inexperienced with (a lot then) I'll always go through Satan.

Thanks for the hint. I'm thinking a few visions I had back in the day might have been these mosquitos instead of Demons. Not too sure though, I'm thinking they might have used an appearance I'd trust better in order to confuse me.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:I waited to answer this reply last as I felt you and I are very similar and wanted to dedicate my answer the time it deserves.

TY for your post. It was far from boring. It's nice to know that there are other similar dudes out there.

I haven't basically had any encounters with Demons yet. I feel that it is disrespectful to summon them 'just for fun'. I have yet to open my astral senses so basically I'm deaf and blind to them. And I don't know what to offer them in return for any favors I might ask.

Years ago, when I was feeling hopeless, exhausted and clinically depressed, I had a very clear vision during sleep. I was standing in darkness with a spotlight above my head and a woman with blonde hair approached me and gave me a warm, comforting hug. She had similar height (I'm 6.3 ft). Her message in my senses was somewhat vague: don't despair, it's gonna be OK. This urged me to try and break the barriers of this NPC life that clearly wasn't working for me. I've read here that Satanic souls differing heavily from your average goyim do stand out on the astral and these are the ones that get harassed the most to make sure they will never rise.

Regarding sex life, mine was quite active when I was in my twenties. I slept around, searching for the One. Finally I found her. I'm one of those who mates for life, so finding the right one wasn't easy. I feel that being faithful and monogamous is the right way for me. I also take my vows seriously.

Regarding empathy, I'm still trying to solve the puzzle. I have developed a kind of mental armor against outsiders that works most of the time but am completely defenseless when it comes to my immediate family. This means that, from time to time, I have to deal with their emotional/energetic sewage. Because they are not dedicated SS, these 'attacks' may be orchestrated by the enemy but I can't say for sure. Instead of being delusional, I'm just trying to maintain a wait-and-see attitude until I learn more. Also, I have to contain myself when it comes to my family and other people close to me because I don't want to harm them.

Just like you, I can sense machines and electronics. I get a clear urge whenever a mechanism needs oil or urgent maintenance. I can make a computer go haywire if I feel strongly irritated and can't contain myself. I used to get check engine light whenever I did AoP on my vehicle. These were caused by random electronic glitches. The codes were nothing serious though and got easily cleared with my handheld scanner.

Both of us have a lot of work to do. Just be careful that you don't thin your energies out by doing too much simultaneously. Take care!

Glad you enjoyed my reply, I'm kinda wondering now how our paths through many lifetimes 'forge' us into the way we become, like you and I having a connection with machines and air, or other people developing specific abilities, or even how the Gods specialize in all the subjects they can teach us.I think I'm wondering this now because I've ALWAYS had a passion for 'seeing more', sensing, observing, gawking, studying and understanding through my own sensorial experience, but no matter how much I tried to train this until now I haven't had that success that seems to come so easy to some individuals... even ex-xians that I managed to get interested in Spiritual Satanism and they met their Guardian Demons, so that's how crappy I felt for now being able to do the same.. I assume that they were put on my path so I could help Satan redirect them back to Him, which I did, and that they belonged with Him already (some fools decided not to follow through though and returned to their life of ignorance.. I can never understand that).

I think there's a few examples of what you can offer the Demons in return (one of the most useful perhaps being the 'positive advertisement' so that other people can find their way home to Father Satan), but I prefer giving energy, probably because I know how much energy I have so I can't seriously deprive myself of it. This is another reason for which I want a solid relationship with a Succubus wife, so that she can help me be useful for Satan.

Also, in my experience (and mind you lol it's a limited one) we're not always 100% 'compatible' (bad word) with every particular Demon at any moment. I know that I tried to summon Flauros back in 2002 and got nothing at all from Her, but later, like ten years later, She came to me of Her own volition and I learned an important lesson (it basically was: it's great that you're so kind to others, but you NEED to be destructive as well, lest you'll suffer for nothing). And I know the JoS says her element is Air, but I can't help but feel it's Fire instead (She does "burn" enemy spirits after all).This to say that maybe the result of your summoning ritual it may depend a lot by your similarity or need for a specific Demon and His/Her help/lesson, other than another perhaps. But yeah, maybe this doesn't concern someone like a HP who has already lots of ability and very open astral senses, they can just summon anyone and work with them to advance as SS and help spread the Knowledge.

And since you and I seem similar in this too, I'll give you my humble opinion: don't wait for a 'better time' to try a ritual and summon a Demon. If you wait for the best opportunity you may miss a good one. Maybe a Demon is just waiting for you to try and reach out to Him/Her to help you open yourself and evolve. And if you do the ritual, offer energy or help spreading the Truth or other things, and nothing happens, try again later (the JoS does mention how busy Demons can be and that they're not always available).Speaking of which.. I'll listen to my own advice as I've been postponing summoning Haures (Flauros) for this same reason, my inability to sense, for too long now. I'll just keep up the chanting of Runes and mantras in the chakras for a little longer before I do in order to maximize success. (To be perfectly honest, I'm pretty sick of my visions only lasting a second or so, and being left for the rest of the time speculating and trying to make sense of something that's giving off way too little information. I just NEED to see and hear a lot more now, or I'm bound to remake the same mistakes over and over due to my lack of information.)

Oh, last thing (before I turn this post into another novel): the empathy problem.Someone in the old Yahoogroups (like in 2002) said that a good way to avoid too much emotional absorption from others is to "create and wear an energy armor". Being the fan of energy manipulation that I always was, I tried this by increasing my energy (from the sixth chakra, as I always did even to create thoughtforms and heal, I always used that for some reason), creating this 'armor vest' and putting it all around my torso, securing my chakras. And it seemed to work well.. I had successfully dealt with my 'too much empathy' problem.The downside (or what I thought would be the downside from doing this) was that I used so much more energy than usual that I (yes, had lots of energy, but) felt even less than before.So I wouldn't recommend that method if you're trying to get to feel more. OR..... (because you can program the energy), you could try it by making the armor only anti-emotions and humans, but letting everything else get through, Demons' messages, astral senses, emotions from animals, information from machines, etc.

Just out of curiosity, what exercises are you trying daily in order to open up your astral senses? I think I'm pretty confident the ones suggested in this post's replies were good ones, like the "Wunjo Dagaz" runes and spending some time (chanting or not) while focusing on the astral eyes and ears. Daily Yoga as well, its benefits are just too many. Do let me know, every little bit helps.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:That makes a lot of sense.. I guess my main flaw is that being my astral senses still so limited I tend to overthink based on the little information I got and that may lead me completely off road. :/ I'm working harder than ever on these now.

Thank you for all your advice, I hope I can make the difference for myself, and in our fight, soon.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

Don't worry yourself and don't feel bad about your astral senses not being amazing yet. Just keep dilligently doing work on them every day, and practice applying them. Stay patient with this and take as long as necessary. What matters is that you do daily work on it, then it will be okay even if it takes a while for them to get into shape again.

Don't worry yourself and don't feel bad about your astral senses not being amazing yet. Just keep dilligently doing work on them every day, and practice applying them. Stay patient with this and take as long as necessary. What matters is that you do daily work on it, then it will be okay even if it takes a while for them to get into shape again.[/quote]

Will most certainly do. I think I have somehow misjudged them too, thinking they won't work because I don't feel them working yet, but this will definitely change now. Had enough proof I can do this, it's time to make Father Satan proud.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Just out of curiosity, what exercises are you trying daily in order to open up your astral senses? I think I'm pretty confident the ones suggested in this post's replies were good ones, like the "Wunjo Dagaz" runes and spending some time (chanting or not) while focusing on the astral eyes and ears. Daily Yoga as well, its benefits are just too many. Do let me know, every little bit helps.

Because I'm running a small family business, I don't seem to find very much spare time AND energy. Only from January to March do I have some more time for myself. So far i have used it for more RTRs, a sun square, some other workings and tried to learn hatha from the JoS files. (AC, AoP and Returning Curses go without saying.) Because of our workload, I'm yet to establish a solid daily yoga routine. IDK, some would say that I'm looking for excuses. Maybe I am but I definitely need at least a solid 8 hours of sleep.

I haven't made it my main goal yet to open my astral senses TBH. I had some other pressing priorities at hand that got the attention and necessary workings. About a year ago I read and followed the opening chakras meditations on JoS. I did them literally, followed everything to the T and wondered why I'm not feeling anything (with the exception of root chakra heating up). The instructions there were reassuring and made it seem simple. Afterwards I read in the forums that it can take some real time to open all the chakras + astral senses properly. Concerning astral senses, I must take the time to delve into the topic because there is a multitude of different suggestions and workings.

I also don't know yet who my GD is. I consider it to be impolite towards the Demons if I started summoning them one after another just to find my own guardian. There were some good suggestions utilizing pendulum or ouija board. Maybe I have to go through Father Satan. Finding my GD is in the upper part of my to-do list. I have no doubt that I already have a GD assigned to me since birth because there have been various mysterious events that were far from being coincidental. In other words, on several occasions my life was saved or serious problems were averted.

Regarding that energy vest you described, I read that doing AoP with the energy from the Sun can, in addition to protecting you, keep other people at bay. I feel that it already works for me because random people in public don't harass me anymore and strangers tend to avoid my gaze. I also can block people mentally from contacting me. It is also written that SS left hand path can be lonesome. I surely can vouch for that. OTOH, I like solitude since childhood but at the same time I wanted to belong, be part of a brotherhood physically in real life. Now I know that this here is my brotherhood and I should stop looking for a team to belong to in real life. I belong to a gun club but we don't exactly fraternize.

One more interesting thing. After I started participating in RTR warfare, my wife, who is undedicated pagan, started seeing visions of snakes before falling asleep. She described the visions as being vivid, accompanied by a feeling that there is a snake in our bedroom. We both have seen slow worms (Anguis fragilis) on our property in real life but not inside buildings. Go figure.

I haven't made it my main goal yet to open my astral senses TBH. I had some other pressing priorities at hand that got the attention and necessary workings. About a year ago I read and followed the opening chakras meditations on JoS. I did them literally, followed everything to the T and wondered why I'm not feeling anything (with the exception of root chakra heating up).

So far I can't say we're different at all as (other than lately since I started pronouncing runes and mantras with renewed conviction and belief and felt some action in my head chakras.. just begun bombing them with vibration, will use Fire element soon again) the only chakras I've ever really felt were my root and sacral, but didn't feel anything when I felt optimistic enough (starting to spin them from the first upwards, not the opposite as the awakening describes) to want to try this spinning in the solar chakra. The first two were great (on this one occasion), the others didn't feel like anything though.

And (because writing about it made me remember one more episode) a couple times, when I had been focusing particularly hard on the feeling of Telekinesis, willing the object to move and 'linking to it' (the linking the aura thing as in the JoS), I DID feel a strong.. sexual energy about it? Like the power that comes with Telekinesis has a lot to do with sex. Not with the physical aspect itself, I didn't get an erection while trying TK of course, but I could feel the sexual energy was the first and most powerful energy dealing with the contact with an object. And I kind of stopped it there because both times I was in public (classroom doing a course) and didn't want anyone to notice IF I was to successfully cause something to move/happen. (Someone did catch me manipulating energy before while I was just using my fingers to aid the visualization and I didn't like their questioning.... said I was stretching my hand and they bought it but didn't like it.)

The instructions there were reassuring and made it seem simple. Afterwards I read in the forums that it can take some real time to open all the chakras + astral senses properly. Concerning astral senses, I must take the time to delve into the topic because there is a multitude of different suggestions and workings.

You may not be wrong here. Mainly because from what I can see we're all VERY different in our spiritual evolution/advancing and what works for one won't always work for another. HP Maxine's guiding is like a manual to follow of course, but I believe if we get stuck (and I mean REAL stuck, like me and maybe you) then we must analyze the situation with a different perspective, possibly ignoring some warnings (like the safe number of breaths or moving on to another chakra instead of waiting forever for the current one to do something or feel like something) and moving on to whatever we feel could be the solution. Honestly, getting stuck in my spiritual advancement has been the greatest cause of delusion and depression for me in the past. I saw these fools I knew who had some sort of sensitivity to energy or ability waste their talent fucking around like it's a new toy, soon to be forgotten about, and it sickened me that they refused to understand Satan is the one they should have gone to.

That said, if you don't feel your astral senses are the priority then you're probably right. I only suggest that you (if you haven't yet) make a list of your priorities and check if everything fits in your life/current situation, so that if you think something is missing or needs particular attention then you can go for it before something that is less urgent.Personally, writing about astral senses and feeling energy (and reading a lot from other people's experiences with astral beings and Gods and energy etc) HAS given me a better perspective to consider what my next goal is:I came to realize that "feeling energy" and "astral senses" may not be the same thing as much as I though before.

Believing that my visions and feeling energy were strictly related was kind of a mistake, I have have multiple visions, accurate and beautiful and revealing, but no energy was ever felt. So I'm dedicating my time to focusing on astral senses first now, and secondarily to 'tuning' my chakras with vibration from Runes and mantras (but not getting mad about it if I can't feel them, I just move to another one now). (Sorry for the long detailed answers, but unlink what I initially believed this is helping me organize thoughts and thinking more straight to the point. I wonder if it's the Runes having an effect on my ability to perceive things and thoughts.)

Also, I am going to try something I have done before, even if it was suggested by someone as much intelligent as she was a complete sociopath, but late events just confirmed that it's something I should do: for lack of better definition, "going inside". And I thank our Brother Shael here for reminding me (and confirming) that the great Musashi Miyamoto was indeed an evolved man. It triggered my realizations and lead me to accepting an old part of myself. The master swordsman said: " There is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get better, stronger, richer, quicker, smarter. Everything is within. Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself."

And if I have to be perfectly honest, it was because of the sociopath that scarred me two years ago that I begun understanding myself better than I ever did. Visions, emotional turmoil dealt with, sensations, maturity, even my recently discovered 'friendship' with machines (Titanic, my car, the machines where I work). It all fits. MAYBE I was so obsessed with wanting to feel energy that I postponed entering a magnificent world filled with possibilities. Like trying to see something contained it a small box so dark that light doesn't shine on the bottom while completely forgetting to raise my head and SEE the beautiful world all around me.

Again, I'm just thinking out loud here lol. Sorry if it steals more time than needed from you, I just hope my own understanding can trigger yours as your words seemed to do to me.

I also don't know yet who my GD is. I consider it to be impolite towards the Demons if I started summoning them one after another just to find my own guardian. There were some good suggestions utilizing pendulum or ouija board. Maybe I have to go through Father Satan. Finding my GD is in the upper part of my to-do list. I have no doubt that I already have a GD assigned to me since birth because there have been various mysterious events that were far from being coincidental. In other words, on several occasions my life was saved or serious problems were averted.

Quick thought.I don't think you should summon all 72 Goetic Demons in order to find your GD. From what I can see, you can probably just ask the first one you summon to help you find Him/Her, and they can point you to the right one, pretty much like asking for directions on a street. You don't need to ask everyone you see and chances are they won't give you a fragment of the final information each time until you have your answer.

I'm pretty sure there's at least a couple names from the JoS that you liked more than others, gave you a better feeling than others, suggested abilities that you feel more yours than others, or a sigil that particularly struck an emotion in your soul when you saw it. Try going for that Demon first and see if they can help you.

It is also written that SS left hand path can be lonesome. I surely can vouch for that. OTOH, I like solitude since childhood but at the same time I wanted to belong, be part of a brotherhood physically in real life. Now I know that this here is my brotherhood and I should stop looking for a team to belong to in real life.

Fully understand that. I always wanted a group to belong to, people that felt real and the same as me with whom I could share all I am and know that they understand and can help each other to grow and advance. I don't know what I held out so long before deciding to join this forum. I guess I thought I was going to be misjudged once I said what I had been able to do, or something like that. But I'm glad I did now.

One more interesting thing. After I started participating in RTR warfare, my wife, who is undedicated pagan, started seeing visions of snakes before falling asleep. She described the visions as being vivid, accompanied by a feeling that there is a snake in our bedroom. We both have seen slow worms (Anguis fragilis) on our property in real life but not inside buildings. Go figure.

Anyway, Heil Satan![/quote]

Snakes? Snakes as in animals or as in a bad, revolting feeling that suggests reptilian? I don't know if you can answer that question since it was your wife who saw/senses them, and not being dedicated to Satan also means that she might as well have picked up enemy energy, not necessarily animal or Demons or friendly ones.I remember there is a Demon in particular who has to do with snakes (Volac, just checked to make sure), so could it be that your wife is picking up on this because the Demon has tried to contact you? Or her (maybe to let her realize she should definitely join Satan)? Just my two cents here. Perhaps you could try to meditate in the bedroom, on snakes, and see what comes up. Void meditate and try asking Satan (unless you want to ask a particular God/Goddess) what's the meaning of the snakes.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

PS. I tried using the "Quote" button to answer this time.. hope I didn't screw it up.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:So far I can't say we're different at all as (other than lately since I started pronouncing runes and mantras with renewed conviction and belief and felt some action in my head chakras.. just begun bombing them with vibration, will use Fire element soon again) the only chakras I've ever really felt were my root and sacral, but didn't feel anything when I felt optimistic enough (starting to spin them from the first upwards, not the opposite as the awakening describes) to want to try this spinning in the solar chakra. The first two were great (on this one occasion), the others didn't feel like anything though.

Hell yeah. I have to assemble my own plan of action and start opening up my chakras. Are you using Opening the soul meditations from JoS? Where did you find information about Rune workings on chakras?

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Someone did catch me manipulating energy before while I was just using my fingers to aid the visualization and I didn't like their questioning.... said I was stretching my hand and they bought it but didn't like it.)

You are one bold dude! I wouldn't even try anything of this nature in public. I mean, I have done the fRTR and some Rune rituals in the middle of a busy gas station sitting in my truck. People should get the idea that I'm holding the phone, talking on the speaker. I would suggest you try to remain as stealth as possible. There are some sensitive (enemy) people amongst NPCs and you can get yourself in trouble.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:then we must analyze the situation with a different perspective, possibly ignoring some warnings (like the safe number of breaths or moving on to another chakra instead of waiting forever for the current one to do something or feel like something) and moving on to whatever we feel could be the solution.

When I first did alternate nostril breathing, I heeded the warning to begin with 5 reps. This excercise made me feel like a mix of anxiety and restlessness but in a positive way, probably a result of a shift in my energies.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:That said, if you don't feel your astral senses are the priority then you're probably right. I only suggest that you (if you haven't yet) make a list of your priorities and check if everything fits in your life/current situation, so that if you think something is missing or needs particular attention then you can go for it before something that is less urgent.

My first priority was to get some energy moving in the financial direction of my Earthly life. You know, to get back more for what you put in and to free up some time for personal Satanic evolution. Since these processes are already set, I can now reevaluate and begin work on my astral senses. It feels like starting a journey into a place you've never been to and no one can really tell you what it will be like when you arrive. I am a bit worried, I must admit, because I don't know yet if I can withstand enemy interferences. This obviously boils down to personal discipline and the ability to void my mind.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Sorry for the long detailed answers, but unlink what I initially believed this is helping me organize thoughts and thinking more straight to the point.

I felt the very same effect each time after composing my reply to you.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:" There is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get better, stronger, richer, quicker, smarter. Everything is within. Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself."

I actually remembered that I used to take my vehicles to the authorized service and tell the service manager what I felt was wrong with the vehicle... and most of the times I was right.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:I'm pretty sure there's at least a couple names from the JoS that you liked more than others, gave you a better feeling than others, suggested abilities that you feel more yours than others, or a sigil that particularly struck an emotion in your soul when you saw it. Try going for that Demon first and see if they can help you.

Yup, I have my hunch.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Snakes? Snakes as in animals or as in a bad, revolting feeling that suggests reptilian? I don't know if you can answer that question since it was your wife who saw/senses them, and not being dedicated to Satan also means that she might as well have picked up enemy energy, not necessarily animal or Demons or friendly ones.

She explained that she in general is afraid of snakes and she finds them revolting BUT these visions didn't cause any real fear in her. She felt strength and positive energy. It's actually quite sad how there are many signs in our daily lives but we aren't able to interpret these properly. Whenever I'm worried or just discussing some SS topic with myself while driving, I see a license plate with 666.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:PS. I tried using the "Quote" button to answer this time.. hope I didn't screw it up.

Oopsie. You did but your message was perfectly readable Also, it seems that auto-correct still sucks I always manually paste quote codes in proper places. These are old habits from when I used to write HTML in code.

Are you using Opening the soul meditations from JoS? Where did you find information about Rune workings on chakras?

(Trying this "Quote" thing differently, lol. Sorry if it still looks odd.)The Opening of each chakras, yes. I follow the pattern as it is described there (third eye, sixth chakra, crown, throat, etc). I've done this I don't know how many times, hoping for an effect, a sensation or something, but only the last time that I have tried this, since after posting this topic here actually, have I been able to feel a vibration/humming in my third eye and some other head chakra locations. Tried the Clairaudience points but I feel like they are still stuck, like a stronger something is needed to unlock them. I'll try this by Fire element as soon as I'm feeling more accomplished in vibrating chakras and feeling the faintest "humming" sensation.

As for which Runes to use, someone here suggested I use Wunjo and Dagaz. I could feel Dagaz a bit (the TS sound at the end, especially, creates like a 'void' that makes you feel the difference between vibrating and NOT vibrating). Wunjo I feel a little less, so I read through all of this again

and tried all to see what worked best.And speaking of machines, I was working and one of the machines had a 'dirt pattern' on it that shouldn't have been there at all. The downside of it (when I studied its shape more accurately) is that it looked like many Runes written together, not one in particular, so I still had to try multiple ones (that looked closer to the pattern) to see which would suit me better. In the end, I chose Ehwaz, which the page confused me a bit as it also refers to it as "Eihwaz", making it pretty similar if not the same sound.. one deals with opening psychic communication (useful for talking with the Gods) and the other deals with Necromancy (talking with the dead). They're both skills I want, of course, but priority goes to the Demons.

You are one bold dude! I wouldn't even try anything of this nature in public. I mean, I have done the fRTR and some Rune rituals in the middle of a busy gas station sitting in my truck. People should get the idea that I'm holding the phone, talking on the speaker. I would suggest you try to remain as stealth as possible. There are some sensitive (enemy) people amongst NPCs and you can get yourself in trouble.

My second name is Stealth. XD Well, not really but I am always pretty careful. Only that one time I have been caught 'acting strange' but no one made the connection and I had a pretty good excuse (stretching my hand) because I had a cast on my wrist since I had injured myself. Generally, I don't use my hands in public, just in my car when I leave the house to cast protection on it every time (it's a habit) and anything else I do is either too sneaky or just mentally directed.

When I first did alternate nostril breathing, I heeded the warning to begin with 5 reps. This excercise made me feel like a mix of anxiety and restlessness but in a positive way, probably a result of a shift in my energies.

I usually take those as good signs. Being used not to feel a thing I am very mindful of whatever changes I feel in my body/aura/emotions/etc. A shift generally means (to me) that your soul is saying "this your your hint that this work is doing something, keep it up and see if it improves things".

Speaking of which, I have felt something in my first (maybe also second) chakras again.

I've been mixing things (yoga poses + breathing techniques + vibrating Runes and mantras) to see if the added effort and power would help me get somewhere faster. Yesterday this started to pay off.I tried again the "Cat and Cow" pose. (Lemmie see if I can find a link..)

and fill it with the gold energy.On the exhale, I vibrate the relative mantra from Opening the soul (THAUM, YAUM, MAUM, and so on) and I align it as it should be.

What I noticed is that when I did it with my head chakras it started making me FEEL something 'moving' in my root. It was strange.. I could tell that it was very sexual in nature (hence why I think the sacral had to do with it). I couldn't locate the energy very well other than in the root chakra, so ..don't know. But it definitely felt like something in me trying to take over, or direct me to focus more energy, or simply trying to express itself. Don't know if that's a good explanation, I never felt this before.

And on the same day, like 8 hours before, I had (probably for the first time) actually FELT the Sushumna getting hot. I was sitting with legs crossed and trying again the Chakra Breathing, golden energy and all, and for some reason I felt I had to focus on my Sushumna as well. So I did, but instead of picturing it as a thin, coin sized column, "it" chose to manifest as a larger column, like fist sized in diameter, and it got hot like it never did before. I could actually feel the increase in temperature in my body. It wasn't uncomfortable in the slightest, it just surprised me because I NEVER feel this much or this EASY.

Maybe I just had to power up like crazy for nearly 20 years in order for me to start perceiving? lol that'd be an insane theory.

My first priority was to get some energy moving in the financial direction of my Earthly life. You know, to get back more for what you put in and to free up some time for personal Satanic evolution. Since these processes are already set, I can now reevaluate and begin work on my astral senses. It feels like starting a journey into a place you've never been to and no one can really tell you what it will be like when you arrive. I am a bit worried, I must admit, because I don't know yet if I can withstand enemy interferences. This obviously boils down to personal discipline and the ability to void my mind.

You know what? I used to think, until just very recently, the same exact thing. That I wanted to make sure I'd work harder and harder for a great financial income to manifest SO THAT I could buy a shack in a forest and train spiritually every waking moment. I felt it was the only thing that made sense, until I realized I wouldn't have just gotten richer or better (Miyamoto quoting here? ) by getting money and 'buying' the time I needed off society in order to better myself, my soul, and grow closer and closer to Father Satan and our beloved Gods.

I could have just DONE it. And I must say... since I have decided this, to use every moment I get to meditate, vibrating Runes at work when no one's there, focusing on my chakras and letter learning how to BREATH, things just begun to improve. I never felt anything, or close to nothing. Now I feel there's a great chance for me. I just have to choose to seize it no matter what happens. Never give it up.

I actually remembered that I used to take my vehicles to the authorized service and tell the service manager what I felt was wrong with the vehicle... and most of the times I was right.

I think while some people have it easier feeling and experiencing astral events, we less sensitive ones probably STILL have some kind of 'edge'. Be it machines talking to us in a subtle way, or plants revealing things, even just the weather allowing us to predict it. Maybe we just have to take that perception sphere and make it wider and wider, including animals, thoughts from others, Father, our Gods, until all the Universe is included and we can speak with everything.

She explained that she in general is afraid of snakes and she finds them revolting BUT these visions didn't cause any real fear in her. She felt strength and positive energy. It's actually quite sad how there are many signs in our daily lives but we aren't able to interpret these properly. Whenever I'm worried or just discussing some SS topic with myself while driving, I see a license plate with 666.

My guess is that, if she didn't feel it as anything bad but positive and strengthening instead, it could very well be a Demon wanting you to contact Him/Her. My ex partner would get hints from Demons I knew and would tell me because I had no skill to discern things yet. Maybe it works the same with you in this instance. If you have a good hunch on who your GD may be, I think now is the time to try and summon Him/Her. Don't get discouraged, of course, if you don't feel successful at first, try again soon and try to be more open and keep your mind silent and ready. I know you got this covered.

Oopsie. You did but your message was perfectly readable Also, it seems that auto-correct still sucks I always manually paste quote codes in proper places. These are old habits from when I used to write HTML in code.

Yes, auto-correct DID screw it up too lol. I hope this time it looks easier to read (quoted you instead of me.... hopefully!)

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Maybe I just had to power up like crazy for nearly 20 years in order for me to start perceiving? lol that'd be an insane theory.

That right there would suck. Nice work if you can finally get the senses working, all the while exchanging posts here with me I have some experiences with earthly things I badly wanted to do but couldn't do no matter what before a certain moment in time. This is the Powers of Hell teaching me patience, I guess, because, when I recognize a need within myself, I usually want it yesterday.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:That I wanted to make sure I'd work harder and harder for a great financial income to manifest SO THAT I could buy a shack in a forest and train spiritually every waking moment.

What I actually meant was to use magick to make business and life in general easier, to get rewards for our efforts. I sense that the real labor (like producing something) is artificially underrated in both importance AND rewards. Just like you, I have dreamed about the possibility of just existing with almost no worries about the material realm in order to meditate and evolve. Ain't gonna happen, I guess. OTOH, I have no problem working IF the workload leaves me space and time for myself. My problem with running my own business is that there can be periods of brutally long workdays that leave you exhausted. Many times I have drifted into sleep doing my AoP after the fRTR around midnight.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Don't get discouraged, of course, if you don't feel successful at first, try again soon and try to be more open and keep your mind silent and ready. I know you got this covered.

Maybe I'm so respectful of the Powers of Hell that I'm actually constraining myself. IDK. You also have to keep in mind that, after dedicating, I basically jumped right into the fRTR warfare, without any formal 40-day training whatsoever. I had asked Satan that I wanted to be of assistance ONE day before the fRTR was launched. It was only logical that I took it seriously. Because my free time is pretty limited, I set this duty higher than my own evolution. Yesterday I got slightly irritated and angry at myself (in a positive way), because I'm feeling like stagnating. So my mind is working now to build a daily routine of meditations, warfare and yoga that I could actually sustain.

I don't exactly know how this all works but my hunch is, that if your soul sticks out on the astral, even if you are just trying to live a normie life (my years before dedicating), you will be harassed. It is like feeling restless, anxious, unhappy and pointless at the same time. It stops after I meditate, do a dual (2×9) RTR and clean myself. The next morning it usually begins again and I have to work full day, feeling like shit. During the years before dedicating, several times it actually got to the point that I felt like ending myself. This is what your lack of knowledge and discipline combined with the enemy influences can do. The suicidal ideations are now gone, thank Gods. Anyway, I'm off to do some Rituals now. You have used the words "I felt" and "I can feel" a lot by now. LOLZ. Keep at it!

[quoteThat right there would suck. Nice work if you can finally get the senses working, all the while exchanging posts here with me I have some experiences with earthly things I badly wanted to do but couldn't do no matter what before a certain moment in time. This is the Powers of Hell teaching me patience, I guess, because, when I recognize a need within myself, I usually want it yesterday.][/quote]

That really sucks indeed.. :/ MOST of all because by not feeling energy we have a far harder time than others to tell if we're being successful or not, good at a meditation or not, and basically it's all like "ok, I've done it and it feels like nothing. I'm just going to assume it's done correctly and go to the next step".. only to discover none of the steps feel like SOMEthing.It's refreshing to know that you are (other than similar in so many ways) feeling the root chakra too. If it's the only thing we feel than I guess it's what we should work more on. We've both done the Opening the soul exercises so there's no techical reason to believe they didn't work. And we've both had success with some astral work/abilities/etc so there's no reason to believe we're necessarily weak souls. On the contrary, perhaps. I just hope I didn't get the "oh he's deluded" stamp when I wrote someone else in here about the 'greatest' thing I've done. Great that it was, it still haunts me because it makes everything so much more confused in my attempt to understand why I won't feel like we should and what's my location on the spiritual evolution ladder.

Maybe I'm so respectful of the Powers of Hell that I'm actually constraining myself.

Don't tell me, lol, I thought of this possibility already and I can't say it's entirely wrong! That, along with the "ok this is too advanced, let's do it only AFTER I get to feel energy". Took me years to try and fail at smaller exercises before I'd even find the page from HP Maxine on more information on the Elements, and I'd read that some who trained themselves well over the 7 breaths as a maximum for safety have actually passed the 100 breaths. Alas, like you, finding the Final RTR the day after you ask Father Satan how you can be of more help, I feel that I found that information right when I believed that I was just wasting my time not feeling even Elemental energy with 7 breaths (20 max).That said.. we're all different. No shit about that. So what we are lead to perceive as "the standard spiritual training and benchmarks" is probably only to be thought of as a guideline, IF we feel that standard path doesn't work with us as an individual.Meaning, I think we should both start ignoring the small time failures and focus on more grown up stuff, fearlessly, and see if we start to develop a sensitivity that has been a stranger to us for all this time. Sure, not to the point of hurting ourselves in the process, always using common sense, but being a lot bolder and daring to do more than we think we're expected to take up.

Example: a couple days ago I had started to feel hotter/electrifying energy. Twice in a day is kind of a record for me, so I was happy about it. Then I did the Final RTR in the evening (only time I usually can sit down and meditate other than some scrappy minutes during the day) and after that I felt a major headache coming. The pain lasted and just increased in my right temple, wouldn't let go. Couldn't sleep and I had to get up at 3:30am to be at work at 5am, so I knew I wasn't getting enough sleep.While I don't know 'exactly' what triggered the headache (haven't been working with Fire as much as I used to and never got headaches for that), I feel this is very probably linked to my feeling hot/noticeable energy twice in a day.. IF this means my headache was a sign that my energy had been flowing upwards and that I felt it because it was becoming more active, than I'm glad.

As a personal note on this, also: while I was suffering from it and trying to understand what hurt more, I had the strong impression that "my crown was stuck". I tried vibrating some Runes and mantras for the crown, but it only hurt more.I think I have to prioritize that now, unlocking it so that energy will freely flow through it. Taking chances, more like, as I don't understand WHY it would still be locked after all these years and all the exercises and awakenings I put it through.

I don't exactly know how this all works but my hunch is, that if your soul sticks out on the astral, even if you are just trying to live a normie life (my years before dedicating), you will be harassed. It is like feeling restless, anxious, unhappy and pointless at the same time.

That seems to be a common problem with people who have some skills usually but don't know anything about that.. entities probably see these people as "freebie food" and claim all the energy they can get. Because I knew this back in the day I'd cast AoP and AC many times a day and I can say I never ever felt low on energy (thanks to this perhaps?), but I'm probably the most exposed to attacks while dreaming. Sometimes I thought of just skipping more sleep if I was getting up early (not TOO early) because I generally know that if I go back to sleep chances are I'll get some shitty dreams and get up even more restless, possibly thinking about the negative scenario I wasn't going to consider if I just woke up and stayed up.

This sucks, because (for someone like me who has had visions only lasting a moment and not that often at all too) I like to think of dreams as a place where I can meet Demons and talk to them without worrying about my inability or lack of astral senses. I think Specter here from the Succubus post was mentioning lucid dreaming often enough, that is definitely a skill I NEED. But I'd be also a fool if I didn't mention that time when I started consciously spinning my root and sacral chakras in bed, feeling them, and then had a short lucid dream. If there's a link between these, than I suggest you try too (spinning your root and possibly sacral chakras) before sleep and see if you notice any changes in your dreams.

(See? This is how I get creative and come up with ideas! XD Writing!)

The next morning it usually begins again and I have to work full day, feeling like shit. During the years before dedicating, several times it actually got to the point that I felt like ending myself. This is what your lack of knowledge and discipline combined with the enemy influences can do. The suicidal ideations are now gone, thank Gods.

Glad you completely gave up on those thoughts. I know how the mind sometimes can only see one possible path, tunnel vision making it hard to see the rest of all the paths you can take. In my case, I let someone psychotic get too close and it nearly destroyed me. Suicide was an idea forming in mind, not being considered (because in my mind it's also "something to never ever do".. just think of going through the trouble of reincarnation and having to find the JoS AGAIN, who knows when lol... fuck that.. I'd just postpone my Godhood like that, how stupid would that be?), but I thought about it as a.. theoretical option. Wondering things, yada yada yada. Then I just pulled myself together and decided I was letting my beloved Father Satan down, and I couldn't allow that.

I was reading and practicing with all of the breathing techniques to see if there would be a change in effect since I last tried them, and (other than a few that involved hissing like sound which helped me calm my mind and I will now incorporate in my void meditation sessions), I didn't get a good enough feeling until I tried the last one:

Don't know if you have tried it already, but it involves breathing through the root chakra (which we both feel) and focusing on the sixth chakra, that I'm beginning to feel while I vibrate mantras and Runes.

It also involves energy work other than just breathing so I thought it would work well for you.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:and basically it's all like "ok, I've done it and it feels like nothing. I'm just going to assume it's done correctly and go to the next step".. only to discover none of the steps feel like SOMEthing.

Rhetorical question: Maybe this is a good opportunity for us to develop a strong faith? Just trust the path and you'll get there eventually. Use JoS approved information ONLY. NEVER trust any of the wiccan-jew age schmucks and their filth. It's too easy to become deluded.And speaking of paths, I KNOW I'm on the right path, the left hand path. For me, personally, there is no other path in this world. Also, I've known overly sensitive AND ungrounded people (who are without, of course) who have difficulties coping with everyday life. They also practiced some sort of wicca/jew age magic which is full of delusions.Maybe, in our current phase of development, it is actually a good thing to be somewhat insensitive? I mean, for example, one can do psychic warfare rituals at will and not see nitemares.

I'm gonna do the Opening the soul excercises again, just for good measure and then start regular work on the chakras just like suggested. Recently I have had feelings of pressure in my third eye after I align&spin it. This suggests me that a lot of work is needed with chakras.

We are not weak. Old perhaps but far from weakness. Don't underestimate the power of reincarnation amnesia. We have a lot of work to do. Previous experience seems to be all over my birth chart. Still waiting for my reading from HP HoodedCobra to discover who I really am.

Ladders are 1-dimensional, up or down. I'd like to think that this is more like a 3-dimensional system and we are situated like stars in a galaxy. Everyone is different, there are no equal beings. The final goal is Godhood and even then we will be endlessly different, I guess.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:I think we should both start ignoring the small time failures and focus on more grown up stuff, fearlessly, and see if we start to develop a sensitivity that has been a stranger to us for all this time. Sure, not to the point of hurting ourselves in the process, always using common sense, but being a lot bolder and daring to do more than we think we're expected to take up.

I like the direction you took. This is exactly what I did back then when I couldn't keep myself from starting with the RTR warfare. The only thing that bothers me is that actually a great deal of spiritual information has been wiped from our history. We don't know all the rules/laws and how things work, just like a person who doesn't know traffic rules and/or the laws of physics can crash his car in a matter of minutes. Common sense and paying attention can help to avoid many bad things but even then the chance of doing irreversible damage exists. I like the adage that slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

Speaking of sensitivity, two days ago I took a break in driving to do my rune working, watching the file on my phone. Then all of a sudden I get a clear feeling that I should move the image down a bit because there will be an incoming call and the call notification is going to overlay the rune I was vibrating and focusing on. (I had the phone deliberately set to Silent and Do not disturb. In this case, Android 8 only displays a narrow notification about the incoming call at the top of the screen.) I moved the image down and in 5 seconds there was an incoming call. I've also become much more sensitive in traffic situations.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:It also involves energy work other than just breathing so I thought it would work well for you.

Thanks, bro, will try it on Saturday. I'm taking this day off. Gonna spam the RTR during the hours of Saturn and meditate, yeehaw.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:This sucks, because I like to think of dreams as a place where I can meet Demons and talk to them without worrying about my inability or lack of astral senses.

I was hoping for the very same thing. Maybe the problem is that we can't reach our Gods vibrationally as of yet. Just like you can't receive FM radio signal with your AM receiver. We have to tune up.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:skipping more sleep

I wouldn't do that if I were you. I have lived through burnout and depression before coming to Satan and sleep deprivation together with overstressed nervous system played a serious role in it.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Because I knew this back in the day I'd cast AoP and AC many times a day and I can say I never ever felt low on energy

On the other hand, I, for a very long time, felt low on energy, initiative and the raw willpower of getting things done in the material world. The situation improved after I dedicated and started meditating but I'm not quite there yet.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:I know how the mind sometimes can only see one possible path, tunnel vision making it hard to see the rest of all the paths you can take.

My greatest vision of a tunnel is that I can't make myself work for a shitty slave pay in this jewed economy. It seems pointless so why bother? Work more, push harder... just to earn a shitty salary. Work in order to pay the bills, pay the bills in order to work even more. A seemingly never-ending loop for some of us. This might just be one of my hangups. BTW, have you noticed a vibrational difference between the expressions earning money and making money?

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:This is how I get creative and come up with ideas! XD Writing!

I've felt the same thing in this very thread. It seems that the inner dialogue that takes place while writing helps to clarify the situation in the mind. It is possible that we even take some info off the astral subconsciously.

Finally made some time to answer you properly. Between work, Element working and meditations.. haven't even done the RTR today yet, I need more time for myself.

Rhetorical question: Maybe this is a good opportunity for us to develop a strong faith?

You raise a very interesting and valid point, my friend. To be completely honest, I've felt in the longest time like I was simply 'training off guidelines' and not really getting into Spiritual Satanism because of trust. (I just discovered my strongly dominant element is Air so I guess that makes me too much of a thinker, I guess.) With that I don't mean that I don't trust Father and the Demons of course, but that I feel there's still a considerable 'gap' for me to fill in order to bridge myself over to our Gods. I believe that word, faith, could not be more appropriate, especially after all I've been through already which would, I imagine, at least make someone's faith and beliefs shake. But I'm never giving up on Satan and our Gods so all I can do is move forward and put my faith in them completely, in more ways than I've ever felt like doing.

And, yes, I don't use anything other than the JoS. I tried to believe an outside source only once. Worst mistake, won't repeat it.

As for the Left Hand Path, I have to admit I went (again) to look if there is a steady definition for it, but I've only found many "this guys thinks it means this, these other ten consider it that" kind of terms. Personally, I think the Left Hand Path is simply something I have always lived by, and as I find this "the normality" in my life I don't even look for further ways to define it.. yet, reading about right hand path people I feel I could vomit. Close mindedness, stupidity, ignorance.. maybe the Left Hand Path is all this is not and therefore all I am.

Also, I've known overly sensitive AND ungrounded people (who are without, of course) who have difficulties coping with everyday life. They also practiced some sort of wicca/jew age magic which is full of delusions.Maybe, in our current phase of development, it is actually a good thing to be somewhat insensitive? I mean, for example, one can do psychic warfare rituals at will and not see nitemares.

Perhaps because I've just spend a few hours studying mine and family member's natal charts, I feel like analyzing this view in a little more detail.So, we don't feel energy easily. That means, we also don't suffer from the effects other people, who are much more sensitive to energy, seem to suffer from. So that means two things in my opinion:1) we can use the insensitiveness to perform heavy energy work with minimal/no collateral damage that we can observe, and2) I'm pretty sure there is something completely different from what we are currently used to do that WILL prove to be the key to open ourselves enough and feel/experience/perceive all that we are currently blind to.

This something I'm talking about probably has to do with a completely opposite "life style" we have buried in our own doing, something that simply seems out of our sphere of interaction. We use lots of energy, manipulate the weather, do power meditation without feeling a think whereas others have had to stop as the energy was getting too intense.So what is it we're missing here?

I'm also thinking of how we both seem to perceive the (as I came to call it) spirit of machines (don't know if that's a good name for it, but it works for me). We find out what's wrong with a machine by simply being open to it, listening to it, letting its whispers get in our head, not with words perhaps but with thoughts/ideas/information that allows us to readjust our day in order to minimize damage and maybe fix faulty machines.

I think this is ONE of the things that I referred to in point "2" here. Subtle energies, things we are unaware of yet but that we KNOW speak and communicate.BUT, in order to reach that awareness, we NEED to practice letting go of our habit of holding and bathing in tons of energy first. Analogous to taking off a pair of headphones with loud music in order to hear what the sounds in the world are saying.

Don't know if I managed to convey my message, I hope it's not sounding too far fetched or simple.. well, it is simple, but for those like us I imagine it's all but easy to do. And to answer this, the suggestion at the beginning of this thread (plethora now, more like) of messages should work similarly enough: just focusing on the astral eyes and ears. And I'm not saying "directing energy to them" this time, cuz I think for people with our habit of using large quantities of energy it may be a distraction. The mere "focusing" here SHOULD be an energy direction by itself, but without the visualization, which in my opinion can get distracting (but, again, I'm a heavy thinker so I tend to overdo it lol). Hint: I think it could help if we try to focus/perceive these sensorial chakras with another sense ("looking" at them, listening to them, sensing them by touch.. not touching just following the head shape mentally and finding them), and any other sense that we can discover on the way.

I'm gonna do the Opening the soul excercises again, just for good measure and then start regular work on the chakras just like suggested. Recently I have had feelings of pressure in my third eye after I align&spin it. This suggests me that a lot of work is needed with chakras.

I don't think you're wrong doing that again. Just try to make sure you change the "way" you do this. I feel that, obviously enough, what I've been doing with my attempt at opening and feeling the chakras has been a bunch of failed attempts. I tried too hard, probably didn't focus on them more than I tried to forcefully unlock them by energy means, and this resulted in my failure.Try doing something slightly differently. Trust your guts, see what you discover. Think of the chakras as machines if it helps lol, I don't know.. just don't get caught in those repetitive patterns that we know haven't worked after multiple tries. There's probably just something that's happening but that we're not aware of just yet.

Don't underestimate the power of reincarnation amnesia. We have a lot of work to do. Previous experience seems to be all over my birth chart. Still waiting for my reading from HP HoodedCobra to discover who I really am.

That's another thing that bugs me to no end.I really wish that by the time my next life starts I will have a good method that helps me recover lost memories and everything I've been learning about myself, so I won't have to roam in the dark until I accidentally bump my head on the JoS website at 47.I know there's methods for past lives regression in it, but I haven't been successful with them. I assume it'll be a LOT easier after I develop astral sight and get to talk with the Gods and "properly" ask for their help.

I think I'll go for the chart reading too, guess it's worth a shot, I'm just afraid I won't understand much from it. :/

Ladders are 1-dimensional, up or down. I'd like to think that this is more like a 3-dimensional system and we are situated like stars in a galaxy. Everyone is different, there are no equal beings. The final goal is Godhood and even then we will be endlessly different, I guess.

Another very valid point. I do tend to think in "up or down" terms and get caught up in this mindset, but you're right. I just have to look at the 72 Demons' descriptions to see how different they can be. All specializing in different subjects, those that excel more than others in foretelling the future and prophecy, those that deal more than others with Fire element, those that deal with love and relationships or sex, those that deal with animals or herbs or stones... sometimes I wondered how they were when they were... IF they were not born as Gods, of course (as I don't know that from experience, I can only wonder), how they were when they were just learning how to improve themselves and advance. If they resembled us in any way, stumbling upon problems, figuring things out together... the concept itself of a Demon as a 'not yet experienced/master' in something is baffling already, but I can't help but think of how they found their way towards Godhood, how it all happens. What 'exactly' changes that makes one see one's mistakes and correct them for good.

Yes, I think too much lol.Still, your 3 dimensional view of evolution is interesting and probably also right. We all come from different environments, places, cultures, and behaviours that we learned to use and adapt along the way, so it's only safe to say each of us is carrying a set of different skills. It only makes sense to assume that our spiritual evolution will be different for each of us as well.

The only thing that bothers me is that actually a great deal of spiritual information has been wiped from our history. We don't know all the rules/laws and how things work

It pisses me off to no end too. Just knowing that there's dumb fucks who get paid to go in ancient archaeological sites to DESTROY our past and ensure vital information about who we are, were we came from, and how we evolve to get back WITH our beloved Gods... boils my blood. These people have no idea how much evil they cause every time they shoot a statue or bring down a wall or ruin. I thank our Gods that HP Maxine entered my life with her incredible website and changed everything for me. I may not feel energy or see much yet, but there's definitely senses that tell me "you are home". Just the thought of Satan makes me joyful. Which means the website's name couldn't be more proper and accurate.

Speaking of sensitivity, two days ago I took a break in driving to do my rune working, watching the file on my phone. Then all of a sudden I get a clear feeling that I should move the image down a bit because there will be an incoming call and the call notification is going to overlay the rune I was vibrating and focusing on. (I had the phone deliberately set to Silent and Do not disturb. In this case, Android 8 only displays a narrow notification about the incoming call at the top of the screen.) I moved the image down and in 5 seconds there was an incoming call. I've also become much more sensitive in traffic situations.

Something like that happened to me before. It did more than a few times I think, but one I remember very clearly as it was particularly evident. I was texting with a friend (who I spoke with about energy, Satan, psychic powers and Demons) and she texted me back shortly. There was still that common Nokia 3210 "incoming text" sound with two beeps (like 20 years ago). At some point she stopped replying and I forgot about it and left my phone on a shelf. Minutes later I felt my attention was required and I went back to my phone. For a moment I could almost "tap" into whatever frequencies cellphones use and it seemed apparent to me that a text was about to pop in. The moment I felt this "frequency" climax, I pressed the button on the cellphone and I 'split' the short beeping sound in two, perfectly matching the text's arrival.An external observer might have said something like "oh, what a coincidence, you pressed it the moment it arrived" but it wasn't a coincidence, I just felt the incoming message and pressed the button when I new it was a matter of an instant.

So yeah, machines are great. Actually, I wonder if there is a Demon that rules over these things.. I haven't found one that deals with machinery, electronics or devices. I don't assume there's one specifically inclined for that kind of thing though.. but it's a curious thought. Maybe we'd be better at perceiving Him/Her, by using our sensitivity to machines instead of whatever astral senses experienced SS use.

I was hoping for the very same thing. Maybe the problem is that we can't reach our Gods vibrationally as of yet. Just like you can't receive FM radio signal with your AM receiver. We have to tune up.

I think I'm going to repeat myself (wrote so much so far lol) and I may very well be wrong, but I think that one probable way to get close to a Demon would be to share His/Her... "passions"? For instance, when I met Haures the first time I was full of anger against someone, vengeful thoughts in my head, and I was set on learning pyrokinesis. She burns enemies of the mage, from what I read, so COULD IT BE that that particular vibration I had going on in my soul attracted Her and made Her want to get to know me?

I don't think it's wrong to assume that a person who has particular interest will probably have a Guardian Demon who deals with and teaches about those same subjects, right? So I believe that this "similarity" may be something to keep in mind. Which is also theoretically why we shouldn't just summon EVERY Demon... we should stick to those that resemble us the most, at first at least. AGAIN, my opinion. I don't know this for a fact, I just feel this is a concept that worked for me so far.

I wouldn't do that if I were you. I have lived through burnout and depression before coming to Satan and sleep deprivation together with overstressed nervous system played a serious role in it.

I only have to force myself out of bed twice a week now, and it's going to eventually drop back to one time or zero (hopefully.. not a morning person.. well, not a 3:30am morning person at least!). The good thing about this, however (as I try to see something positive in it), is that this half hypnagogic state I more easily get to when I have those 20 minutes to sit down without anyone bothering me or entering the room has helped me meditate on occasion.Once, last year, I saw a Demoness. I'm not sure who She was, she looked very young, blonde with a ponytail, bright blue eyes, smiling. I could tell it was a Demoness and not someone else because there was a great energy about Her.. something just stated Demon in the whole vision, power, strength, beauty, even femininity. I don't know if it was Haures again.. She looked different, so I looked up the descriptions but didn't feel convinced enough. Do speak up if She made you think or anyone in particular. Never saw her again, but I plan to find Her once I'm good enough.

My greatest vision of a tunnel is that I can't make myself work for a shitty slave pay in this jewed economy. It seems pointless so why bother? Work more, push harder... just to earn a shitty salary. Work in order to pay the bills, pay the bills in order to work even more. A seemingly never-ending loop for some of us. This might just be one of my hangups. BTW, have you noticed a vibrational difference between the expressions earning money and making money?

Thought about this a number of times, mate. Over the last year I even got so convinced I can't be doing this shit for all my life that I opened up a Youtube channel, determined to make money off of it. Thing is, those that make money on Youtube are, essentially, complete fucking morons. Not speaking about every single one, of course, but most of them just "play videogames", "do stupid/potentially lethal stuff", etc.. now with all the deluded sexual fantasies and new fetishes there's even entire channels dedicated to women wearing heels who make a fortune (and buy more heels) and those girls who do nothing but eat food and call it art. The sad part is, they STILL make a lot of money. So I kinda slowed it down a lot, decided I'm not ever doing something so idiotic or meaningless and that I'd rather just have enough to get my usual free time to meditate and practice but making PROPER progress that will pay off in time and in the next lives than waste my time playing videogames or doing some shit just to get views from the idiots who subscribe to this nonsense.Money's useful, but unless I come up with a brilliant idea that I'm actually feeling very fond of and that is also very crowd pleasing... I'd just rather stay in bed all day trying to astral project than watch this crap like a total braindead fuck.

I've felt the same thing in this very thread. It seems that the inner dialogue that takes place while writing helps to clarify the situation in the mind. It is possible that we even take some info off the astral subconsciously.

As far as I know, this too is one of the commonly known ways to divinate. I guess by focusing on the actual writing the mind finds it easier to get rid of the rest of the useless thoughts (like in Void meditation pretty much, but using the writing itself as a vector for the focus) and when you read again what you wrote you realize you actually wrote notions and hints you "probably wouldn't have been able to figure out by merely thinking about it". I don't know if Demons have a hand in this, if they push some words in order to give us a message, or if we just tune into the astral subconsciously and "draw" the information we need while we pin it down with ink on paper, but I've been using this for years and, even if sometimes it's just me talking in circles, a lot of the time there's some good advice in there.

I have tried that, too. It seems that I'm being heavily protected because no harm has come my way. Last case before coming to JoS was a young lady, pretending to be a Satanist, Baphomet pendant hanging around her neck and shet, pumped full of sedatives (i.e. harassed badly and/or ungrounded), has tried suicide a couple of times. She did a Tarot spread about me and my future. Predicted I'd kill myself during the summer if I continue with my business. "This is horseshit" I thought to myself. That was almost 3 years ago and I'm still standing.You can see the sad reality here. People are left without spiritual systems so they run to any jew age wicca witches available who predict the future, "clean dirty auras" etc.In retrospect, what can an "archangel michael" or whatever shitforms they use tell me about me? Nothing. Nil.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:As for the Left Hand Path

Satanism in LaVeys black book is described as being the left hand path. xianity and/or NPC life are obviously the right hand path. Or whatever. I'm not that well versed in such intellectual conversations over definitions. I find them boring. We are at war and besides my own evolution, RTRs done are the only thing that matters for me.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:This something I'm talking about probably has to do with a completely opposite "life style" we have buried in our own doing, something that simply seems out of our sphere of interaction. We use lots of energy, manipulate the weather, do power meditation without feeling a think whereas others have had to stop as the energy was getting too intense. So what is it we're missing here?

Because of that missing part, I'm feeling like a powerful locomotive on a siding, behind a red light. On the other hand, I KNOW I have a role to play. I have also learned the hard way that some key events in life happen only when the time is right, no matter how many temper tantrums I throw. All I need to do, besides educating myself and warfare, is to have faith and trust in our Father. We also have to keep in mind that, according to the Clergy, Satan is big on patience.

You know what, this little thread of ours here has actually put some forces into action. Thanks to the brain calisthenics involved, I felt a shift within myself. I started to feel differently about myself, about life in general, about Satan. Now I get slight headaches every now and then after rituals and meditations. At first I was cautious and heeded warnings given about meditations but this is not the real me. The real me always pushes the envelope. Finally I'm starting to move SOMEwhere. This is a big contrast to doing the meditations, feeling next to nothing. Learn the principles, make your own rituals and affirmations. I'm well aware that this kind of approach (overdriving) can get me into trouble and end in a trainwreck, so I try to push not more that 30% over limit Just kidding, always hold your horses and listen to your gut feeling.

I can't be sure about the quantities of energy we use, manipulate etc. Who could gauge that? The jew age clowns I consulted before finding JoS told me jack shit. The reason for this is absolutely clear - they are delusional and of the enemy. I've noticed since childhood that I don't belong but there was no one to explain the cause behind it. So you grow up, wondering but knowing nothing, trying to fit in. One day I can talk to my GD and ask her about it. That will be a day of days!

Regarding subtle energies, the problem is the difference in tune/frequency and void of the mind. You can't find a hidden, invisible thing if you don't know WHAT to look for or even WHERE to look (that ties in with not knowing the levers and knobs of the energy realm). You also have to TAKE THE TIME to do nothing, just relax, clear your mind and focus on feeling. The irony here is that my daily business can be quite hectic, and in the evening, the moment of inertia of this merry-go-round is sometimes just overwhelming but I'm getting better in this department.

I hope I'm not the one to become delusional. I bet you have read the stories here from delusional teenagers who believe that their GD watches netflix with them or whatever. The problem is overly active and eager imagination that could be used as a starting aid but, for some reason (lack of discipline and energy work maybe), the real astral senses do not take over. Rational, dry approach suits me. Something either works or it doesn't. When the day comes I manage to open my astral senses, I will have yet another puzzle: discerning enemy noise from actual Powers of Hell.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:BUT, in order to reach that awareness, we NEED to practice letting go of our habit of holding and bathing in tons of energy first.

I'm not actually aware of the habit you describe or how to let go of it. Your analogy with headphones makes perfect sense, though. I feel that only a GD could show us the knobs and levers of energy realm and astral. You can't drive a car if you've never seen one. You even don't know what is its purpose. I hope you get what I'm trying to say. We have a lot of learning to do besides being open.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:For a moment I could almost "tap" into whatever frequencies cellphones use and it seemed apparent to me that a text was about to pop in.

I've been there, too. Sometimes I feel when the phone is about to ring. Sometimes the phone rings on the table and I know who is calling before I even pick it up.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:I think it could help if we try to focus/perceive these sensorial chakras with another sense ("looking" at them, listening to them, sensing them by touch.. not touching just following the head shape mentally and finding them), and any other sense that we can discover on the way.

This sounds reasonable. I'm gonna try it. In addition to the opening meditations.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:so I won't have to roam in the dark until I accidentally bump my head on the JoS website at 47.

Well, I did. Not exactly at 47 but you get the drift. I still think that everything happens when the time is right. We just need to have patience and faith AND do our part.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:one probable way to get close to a Demon would be to share His/Her... "passions"?

Sounds reasonable. But I think, if you want/need something, you can still contact the Demon responsible for that particular department. Maybe it has to go through your own GD, I'm not sure. I'm a total n00b when it comes to Demons. Unlike you, I have seen only one, in my sleep, comforting me. I'm trying to avoid delusions at any cost so I may be devaluating some of my experiences.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:I may not feel energy or see much yet, but there's definitely senses that tell me "you are home".

Well, not all of them. The channels I've stumbled upon are actually professionals who just record the work they love. I have never watched any channels you just described. These just smell off from a mile away. An example of my taste would be Jimmy DiResta https://www.invidio.us/channel/UCiEk4x ... NIBBpowdYQI'm a DIY guy myself so I find his channel to be top notch. A dude from U.S. has an in-depth channel, I learned welding from his videos. There are several more channels I watch from Europe and Russia, all of them are professionals at what they do: car repair and maintenance, criminal detective work (used vehicle history investigation service before buying. The U.S. has Carfax, Europe and Russia don't have such systems. So totaled vehicles with no structural integrity are fixed with a gallon of bondo and sold as never crashed, never painted. Look for yourself what I mean. This guy actually does a semi-decent job, there are far worse out there: https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=wR2f-q4WPfs ).

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:and when you read again what you wrote you realize you actually wrote notions and hints you "probably wouldn't have been able to figure out by merely thinking about it".

That's exactly the reason why my answers take long to bake. I read your reply, write the bulk of my reply on one day and on the next day I re-read your post several times and then fine-tune my own. For at least 2 posts I made in this thread, after I pressed the submit button, some answers to my pressing questions already popped up in my mind. When on the road, you can't see what lies behind a curve until you get to it.

Strongly reminds me of the one who tried to fuck me over. In my case I guess she was "extremely experienced" because I never met someone who'd be able to plan things that well just in order to forge long term 'proof' of their own lies. Such a huge waste of time and space that one. But in the end I was left standing and when I detached from whatever reality she had me under the impression I was in, I quickly restored myself to my normal self. Treasured the things I learned by myself, moved on. It's just sad that some leeches CHOOSE to stay leeches, I 'll never understand that. And that said, I think I will (even if it's unnecessary) perform the Dedication Ritual once more next Walpurgis, just to prove one more time to Father that my faith in Him is unshakable after this event in my life. Right now I think the only people I can really fully trust are dedicated SS. Everyone else is like a puppet, they may not mean harm, but they are still a part of the system and will act as the system wants them to. It's truly sad, but it is what it is.

I find them boring. We are at war and besides my own evolution, RTRs done are the only thing that matters for me.

That's what matters. We know what's going on and what we need to do.

Because of that missing part, I'm feeling like a powerful locomotive on a siding, behind a red light.

Don't I know the feeling. But don't worry about that anymore. I have worried about that for almost 20 years and it got me nowhere nice. Just know that WHEN you do unlock those astral senses and it'll be a whole lot easier to perform magick work, with that energy you'll have a tremendous advantage while others (mostly psychic people who are not SS and have no clue what's going on) will still have to work their power up from scraps. Just let the locomotive see the green light, then nothing will stop it.

]All I need to do, besides educating myself and warfare, is to have faith and trust in our Father. We also have to keep in mind that, according to the Clergy, Satan is big on patience.[/quote

Fully agreed. To be honest, I think that I have underestimated the power of trust. But I also know I think of it in terms of human relationship, and seeing the ditches I've been to it's no surprise I feel the way I feel. I trust Father Satan, but I feel I haven't showed Him my trust, just choosing to be benched and do my power meditations alone, 'waiting to feel deserving'. Maybe all I needed to do was show my trust in Him. I need to do that much, much more now.

You know what, this little thread of ours here has actually put some forces into action. Thanks to the brain calisthenics involved, I felt a shift within myself. I started to feel differently about myself, about life in general, about Satan. Now I get slight headaches every now and then after rituals and meditations.

No need to tell me I'm super glad I chose to write this post and get to know You and Brother Shael. I find it incredible how a few suggestions have been actually making the difference for me. I started with the Runes, feeling the vibrations, then learning about MY Elements and myself, managed to FEEL Elements and even some chakras... and **drums** yesterday night I was doing the RTR a little more vibrated and I DID feel it working!

Actually there's more!After I was done, I think Father Satan noticed me. I was sitting cross legged, meditating on how I felt after the RTR when I felt myself kinda "shift", almost rotating in space, and above me there was an astral window that opened all of a sudden, like "clouds opening" to show the Sun sort of thing, and I felt Father. Don't want to be too optimistic here, but I felt He was proud. That was very unexpected... I must say, I think this RTR is way more powerful than we think it is. It would be tremendously stupid to underestimate it.

Finally I'm starting to move SOMEwhere. This is a big contrast to doing the meditations, feeling next to nothing. Learn the principles, make your own rituals and affirmations. I'm well aware that this kind of approach (overdriving) can get me into trouble and end in a trainwreck, so I try to push not more that 30% over limit Just kidding, always hold your horses and listen to your gut feeling.

I'm feeling that "SOMEwhere" too lately. Not in a very obvious way, of course, but it's definitely there. And as for using 30%, all power or any in between, I just replied to Shael about how to use the Elements. I found that my most missing Element from my natal chart (the opposite of our main one, you know ) is actually working great in "little nudges" to my chakras. I can definitely feel the Element there, like a.. mass? Energy? Something, that is working with the chakras.AND, personal observation that I'm almost sure I wrote of before, being that Element the one that "slows down" it's making me think that perhaps slowing down the energy flow is somehow making me aware of the chakra there.. not that we should slow them down of course, but it may be a good way to locate them and work with them better when we spin them faster and faster.

I can't be sure about the quantities of energy we use, manipulate etc. Who could gauge that?

I guess the result (speaking of magick) depends by our intention and programming. Whenever I have done that "astral clone"/cleaning/healing on someone new (that I thought was going to feel me) I always say something like "I'm only going to use very little energy so you won't find it too strong, let me know what you feel" and those that are sensitive to energy still manage to feel a lot. Others who are ignorant and bad people (who are also surely loaded with shitty energy and dirt in the soul) have felt nothing, but if I repeated the working over and over an effect took place (I just have to make sure it didn't attach itself to me in the long run).

You also have to TAKE THE TIME to do nothing, just relax, clear your mind and focus on feeling. The irony here is that my daily business can be quite hectic, and in the evening, the moment of inertia of this merry-go-round is sometimes just overwhelming but I'm getting better in this department.

I guess this is where being a Void meditation master pays off. Even if you get like 5 minutes they should prove efficient and you can just "tune in" and do what you want to do. I know this is way more easier said than done, I am NO Void meditation master at all, but I've had good moments when I had just little time and I'd be able to focus and 'summon' a vision or more. (Good days those.)

I hope I'm not the one to become delusional.

I think you don't have to worry about that at all. You don't seem to me someone who ends up believing something that hasn't been proved and confirmed and made sure it's safe to believe. As an Air person, however, just be careful not to end up overthinking a strategy or something that leads you to speculating too much on what something may be. Trust yourself and when you will be able to speak with your Guardian Demon you'll be able to tell the difference.

When the day comes I manage to open my astral senses, I will have yet another puzzle: discerning enemy noise from actual Powers of Hell.

I don't think that those people who are completely sure of what they saw being one thing or another (without much experience, that is) are very aware of how the energy feels. I could tell how Father felt when I met Him for long enough two years ago. It was pure joy and love and strength. The enemy just doesn't feel that way, do they? From some lucid dreaming experience I can tell that "angels" feel like rotting flesh to the touch (in MY opinion). They may look "pretty" to deceive you, but the touch, and the smell, just can't lie. That's one time I was proud of my next to useless astral scent and, very rarely, astral touch.

Your analogy with headphones makes perfect sense, though. I feel that only a GD could show us the knobs and levers of energy realm and astral. You can't drive a car if you've never seen one. You even don't know what is its purpose. I hope you get what I'm trying to say. We have a lot of learning to do besides being open.

That's probably where you should stop thinking too much. For my understanding, you can't REALLY compare physical examples with astral ones because the way they work is just too different. While you can see a car, choose to learn how to drive it and drive it to places; astral skills aren't displayed in a shop's window. I used to think I knew "which I wanted" until I felt some just coming to me, as in small visions, the scents, all that, and it suggested that it was not something I could just pick from. I don't know how well I'm describing this.. (real tired today, still have RTR to do).I guess "subtle energies" apply here too, in a way. You don't necessarily need "a car" to go to places, you just need to know where you want to go. That makes all the rest of the driving process useless, because you have unlocked the ability to reach that place already. How? By mingling with that idea and its energy until it reveals to you (astrally) how you do it. You basically "attract" the correct knowledge itself and learn it. I guess that's where your GD comes in most of the time and helps you out by leading you by the hand where you can't/won't go yet.

(Again, don't take this part too seriously.. it's not an easy concept to explain and I'm not even sure I'm the most qualified person to talk about this. Maybe an HP would like to weigh in?)

I'm a total n00b when it comes to Demons. Unlike you, I have seen only one, in my sleep, comforting me. I'm trying to avoid delusions at any cost so I may be devaluating some of my experiences.

I'm a noob too, mate. I think I MAY have seen more if I could keep my focus in those super rare times, but it always lasts just a moment. Like someone showing you a picture on the cellphone and taking it away from your sight the moment you start to recognize what's in the picture. When this happens, I close my eyes and try to remember all the details but it's truly hard. The one time I saw Haures I saw Her face, eyes, hair, red lava tattoos/bodypaint, but just a blur past her shoulders. I have a generic idea how where She was, I can more or less summon her voice in my memory but it's not exactly the same.Can't wait for that again and speaking with them every day. The other times I saw a bit more (by like half a second) or even much less (Raum's headgear, only the back part while trying to summon Him the first time), but it's damn hard. So difficult. And the worst part is, I don't even really understand what I'm doing right when I have success, so I can't really replicate it. Just trying it the best I can with my current shitty skill and hope for the best.Not very advanced, am I? :/

A big HAIL SATAN to that! My sentiments, exactly.

HAIL SATAN!!!!!!!

Well, not all of them. The channels I've stumbled upon are actually professionals who just record the work they love.

Oh, didn't mean those. I love watching people's crafts and stuff you can actually learn. There's a kid in some poor island who shows how to "dig houses" out of the ground, adding subterrain pools, building a tiny temple.. it's so awesome I'd love to do the same in my backyard lol. And all those who know crafts and share them too. And this also pisses me off because I see how little views and support these people can get compared to others who do close to nothing at all and get so many braindead ones to watch them every time they post something. It's like this pointless stuff is all people want to see, and people actually teaching you how to survive, or repair stuff, or do something useful are only seen in a very small percentage. I don't know, it DOES sound very very jewtube to me. Distractions, lies, deceit, pointlessness. Everything that keeps the populace stupid and ignorant. Today I watched one of our Brothers/Sisters SS video on the Demoness Agares and in the suggested videos there was some abomination like "10 demons you should never summon" with the thumbnail showing a humanoid monster from some fucking hollywood movie and "Mammon" written on it. I felt murderous. I wish I could find these people and slap them until their face rips in half.Mammon, especially, is Someone I really want to get to know once I opened up my senses. I can't stand fucking lowlives slandering our beloved Gods. And yet these complete LIARS have got people watching. Fucking ignorants.

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Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:and when you read again what you wrote you realize you actually wrote notions and hints you "probably wouldn't have been able to figure out by merely thinking about it".

That's exactly the reason why my answers take long to bake. I read your reply, write the bulk of my reply on one day and on the next day I re-read your post several times and then fine-tune my own. For at least 2 posts I made in this thread, after I pressed the submit button, some answers to my pressing questions already popped up in my mind. When on the road, you can't see what lies behind a curve until you get to it.]

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Right now I think the only people I can really fully trust are dedicated SS.

Enemy can also pose as a dedicated SS. Silence is gold. Always keep your head cool and try to "stalk" the ones you want to have something to do with, I mean in personal correspondence or in real life. At one point in life, persons who had hidden agendas, started blowing their covers unknowingly in my presence. When I was like 20, I discovered that if I didn't want to have anything to do with a person anymore, I could send him/her off my orbit and basically never see the person again.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:And that said, I think I will (even if it's unnecessary) perform the Dedication Ritual once more next Walpurgis, just to prove one more time to Father that my faith in Him is unshakable after this event in my life.

If you ask me, I wouldn't do that. Just have faith in Him, show some trust and respect AND patience. You did the ritual, that's a done deal. Let your deeds speak for yourself, i.e. warfare and your own evolution. Repeating a dedication ritual sounds like i'm sorry coming from an unsincere person.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:I was sitting cross legged, meditating on how I felt after the RTR when I felt myself kinda "shift", almost rotating in space, and above me there was an astral window that opened all of a sudden, like "clouds opening" to show the Sun sort of thing, and I felt Father.

You lucky bastard! I dare you, say I can't feel one more time.

Actually, I started again the opening of the chakras meditations. I'm done with my 3d eye, now on 6th. Headaches! Pain in the center of my brain and a little to the left. Definitely feeling my 3d eye pulsating. Trying to jumpstart it by meditating daily on it and inhaling energy into it.

I felt great 3 days ago, like I passed a new threshold! Got my first real energy buzz from doing meditations with passion. And, out of nowhere, I started sleeping more deeply.However, I'm feeling kinda distracted, disturbed now. Dunno, some backlash maybe. Not enought sleep also for the last days. I don't do drugs nor medications. What am I missing? Rhetorical question, of course. I'm overthinking again, am I not?

After all the shit I've been through, trust me when I say I'm the embodiment of "careful". When I say I trust SS, I don't mean "everyone in general" of course, can't know about those I never spoke with, there are those who feel "off", some have been already spotted as jews too... can't be too careful. Right now, I only trust (relatively, always) a friend who lives a couple hours from me because I think Father wanted us to meet (she surprised me by being a much more intelligent/real person than I thought she'd be when I didn't even want to befriend her yet), and let's say my mother.. she's the person who mostly makes me mad.. you know those intelligent persons who prove to be complete idiots sometimes? Yes, those. Abusing alcohol "because there's only one life", disregarding almost everything I say against jews to inform her (on topics like Coronavirus and historical numbers repeating).. she was also, fortunately for me, the one to fight the system when I was born so I was born at home and never received any vaccination. Knowing what they do now I'm super grateful, of course. Yet.. can't trust her to ever choose to become a SS, in this life at least. That would beyond surprise me.**sighs** I guess this also teaches me in the end we only have ourselves/our souls, and our Gods. Humans come and go. The Gods are forever.Anyway, sorry.. out loud thoughts.

Just have faith in Him, show some trust and respect AND patience. You did the ritual, that's a done deal. Let your deeds speak for yourself

Again, you are right. I'll let my actions speak for me. And I'm working on developing a new bond of absolute trust with Father and the Gods as I feel I haven't been truly and completely theirs in these years. Also.... Summoning rituals. I may still consider myself a complete noob with them, but I have to believe more in myself. I have seen Demons before, I met Satan, I've had visions. It's pointless to discourage myself thinking negatively.

Also.. you should probably do the same.

Quick question (more like a curiosity ) .. you mentioned your GD is a She. Does Her name start with L, by any chance? Don't answer if you don't want to.

You lucky bastard! I dare you, say I can't feel one more time.

Won't lie. It DOES feel good not to be the one to call another "lucky bastard" for once!! I will work more diligently and devotedly for Father from now on. I feel that He wanted me to know that He cares what I do. Won't let Him down. (There.. the feeling of joy again. Father Satan truly IS love.)

Actually, I started again the opening of the chakras meditations. I'm done with my 3d eye, now on 6th. Headaches! Pain in the center of my brain and a little to the left. Definitely feeling my 3d eye pulsating. Trying to jumpstart it by meditating daily on it and inhaling energy into it.

Sorry for still mentioning this but it might be important as I've experienced it too. Headaches. I didn't really believe it would be because of the sixth chakra until just now. I was at that same point in the Opening the soul exercises and this major headache made me go to work feeling like shit. Thing is: isn't "pain/discomfort in one chakra/area" mean that the above area is blocked?

I'm trying to dislodge/unblock blocked areas with chakra breathing (with the gold energy) as I did feel this a bit, and if it doesn't work then Earth or Air to "nudge" it into activation. I don't think Fire is working in that department for me, hence Earth or Air, in small quantities thought. No point in exaggerating fearing I won't feel the energy or effect.

I felt great 3 days ago, like I passed a new threshold! Got my first real energy buzz from doing meditations with passion. And, out of nowhere, I started sleeping more deeply.However, I'm feeling kinda distracted, disturbed now. Dunno, some backlash maybe. Not enought sleep also for the last days. I don't do drugs nor medications. What am I missing? Rhetorical question, of course. I'm overthinking again, am I not?

I'm just starting it out. Entities? If they noticed you started making progress it's only safe to assume you'll be more harassed (in order to confuse you and your meditation program). I don't know how powerful an aura of protection can be compared to Elementalism, so I'd suggest "burn them", wide area attack. Clean up your workplace, home, bed, etc thoroughly and ask Father to bless these places so you'll be able to work for Him undistracted. Hope the hint helps.. I'm usually just doing things by myself, never asking any Gods to bless something for me, but I understand I must be more trusting, so.. here goes. My two cents.

Take care, mate. You have been helpful, I appreciate that.

I'm really glad this threat worked out not just for me but also a fellow SS with the same kind of troubles. Feel free to use this "topic" to post your news or problems, I feel we can sort them out together. Take care, Brother.

Looking back I can see that I was heavily protected. My parents gave me hard time and harassed me during my university years and even beyond. Besides that, there were many situations that could've turned out real bad but somehow I always came out clean.

We have a saying here: don't teach a father how to fuck. This is their mentality. My mother is like that. You know, self-important, all-knowing keeping up with the Joneses type of wannabes. She thought she knew what would be best for me. I had my own ideas. I moved on and did as I saw fit. The rest is history. We haven't communicated for years.Go all-in on your own development and let them be. This, of course, doesn't mean that you can't intrigue them every now and then by giving them some food for thought

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Yet.. can't trust her to ever choose to become a SS, in this life at least. That would beyond surprise me.**sighs** I guess this also teaches me in the end we only have ourselves/our souls, and our Gods. Humans come and go. The Gods are forever.Anyway, sorry.. out loud thoughts.

You better stop with them excuses, there's no need for that. Yes, I've learned the hard way that you can only give information. The receiving person has to interpret that information from his/her current POV and level of understanding. With some people, you can almost hear the iron curtain slam shut in their minds when they don't want to even consider something outside of their cozy NPC bubble. You only have your soul to look after, and Gods... and other SS here

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Again, you are right. I'll let my actions speak for me. And I'm working on developing a new bond of absolute trust with Father and the Gods as I feel I haven't been truly and completely theirs in these years.

You do that and I'm proud of you. Hell yeah, hot damn.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Quick question (more like a curiosity ) .. you mentioned your GD is a She. Does Her name start with L, by any chance? Don't answer if you don't want to.

It's perfectly okay. I saw that exceptionally clear dream where I was standing in darkness with a spotlight above my head and a beautiful blonde woman approaching me and giving me a warm hug. I clearly remember the strong comforting, encouraging feeling. I saw this dream when I was desperate in my physical life. Everything in life seemed pointless, FUBAR and unfamiliar. You obviously know the feeling. This was not a regular dream. In a regular dream, people you meet are like NPCs in a computer game. She was real. (There were no drugs involved.) Because of that dream I later assumed that she must've been my GD.Maybe this was a beautiful interpretation by my own mind. IDK. I don't know her name yet but I'll get there eventually.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Won't lie. It DOES feel good not to be the one to call another "lucky bastard" for once!! I will work more diligently and devotedly for Father from now on. I feel that He wanted me to know that He cares what I do. Won't let Him down. (There.. the feeling of joy again. Father Satan truly IS love.)

I'm glad for you. I just hope you didn't take it as an insult. I can be crude and strict at times.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Sorry for still mentioning this but it might be important as I've experienced it too. Headaches. I didn't really believe it would be because of the sixth chakra until just now. I was at that same point in the Opening the soul exercises and this major headache made me go to work feeling like shit. Thing is: isn't "pain/discomfort in one chakra/area" mean that the above area is blocked?I'm trying to dislodge/unblock blocked areas with chakra breathing (with the gold energy) as I did feel this a bit, and if it doesn't work then Earth or Air to "nudge" it into activation. I don't think Fire is working in that department for me, hence Earth or Air, in small quantities thought. No point in exaggerating fearing I won't feel the energy or effect.

Headaches, according to JoS, are a sign that the chakra is starting to function after a long hiatus. I'm not exactly worried because today is only the third day working on the 6th. Besides the actual opening ritual, I'm doing daily white/gold breathing anyway. IIRC, pain/discomfort pertains the symptoms of Kundalini rising against a blocked chakra.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:I'm just starting it out. Entities? If they noticed you started making progress it's only safe to assume you'll be more harassed (in order to confuse you and your meditation program). I don't know how powerful an aura of protection can be compared to Elementalism, so I'd suggest "burn them", wide area attack. Clean up your workplace, home, bed, etc thoroughly and ask Father to bless these places so you'll be able to work for Him undistracted. Hope the hint helps.. I'm usually just doing things by myself, never asking any Gods to bless something for me, but I understand I must be more trusting, so.. here goes. My two cents.

Entities? May be. Did Returning the Curses yesterday, feeling better today. I've had my fair share of attacks and these can be vicious. I mean, they can plant thoughts and feelings so cleanly you consider them your own. At one point in time, I developed a kind of detection ability to that. Whenever I started getting funny thoughts and feelings, I always said to them mentally that they probably want me to do more RTRs today... and the bad feelings/thoughts were gone in a matter of minutes. Later they tried to fuck with me through my family members who are still without but this usually almost always ended up with me going to a private room to do RTRs and Returning Curses, with panache. So lately they don't even bother anymore as I'm already 'too far gone' for them, I guess. After I dedicated, it quickly became clear to me that our Gods want us to be stand-up guys, brave, dauntless and self-sufficient (well, to a certain degree). Because of that, I haven't asked for much help, just like you. I just continue my path, tough it out and seek solutions.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:I'm really glad this threat worked out not just for me but also a fellow SS with the same kind of troubles. Feel free to use this "topic" to post your news or problems, I feel we can sort them out together. Take care, Brother.HAIL FATHER SATAN AND THE POWERS OF HELL!!!

Looking forward to new posts from you, too. This thread is far from being over

Can't wait for when I'll be able to tell how close I am and have been to Father. From what I read, I should have been pretty close to Him before, coming to Spiritual Satanism almost as soon as I had the internet, having always been attracted by spiritual self betterment in an almost visceral way, making the leaning of astral abilities the number one purpose in life and other things all suggest I am not new to this. Combined with the fact that I seem to be a stronger soul than the average, it all goes in a good direction, but how close exactly.. how long ago have I first decided I was of Satan? I'd like to know that. For now all I can do is keep moving forward and evolve as much as I can until I'll know for sure.

Go all-in on your own development and let them be. This, of course, doesn't mean that you can't intrigue them every now and then by giving them some food for thought

That's what I'm doing. It really makes no sense to waste time trying to help those that don't want to be helped. I try, occasionally, to throw hints here and there, because I do love some people who made the difference in my life, mother above all, but I can't do the work for them, it's already difficult enough to figure things out on my own.

With some people, you can almost hear the iron curtain slam shut in their minds when they don't want to even consider something outside of their cozy NPC bubble. You only have your soul to look after, and Gods... and other SS here

Couldn't agree more with You. Just a curiosity lol.. when you say NPC, do you mean "Non Playing Character"? I only ever heard that reading about videogames, indicating the AI characters that follow the script and have no possibility to act differently than the purpose they were intended to by the game developers. Which makes it something really sad when I think about it, applied to the real life people/other souls.

Also, this stimulates a thought: (having been for years an avid videogame player I know that) there's something called "Command Console" in videogames. If you're unfamiliar, it's basically a "superpower" sometimes left there by the developers (for PC games) that allows you to fix glitches, change parameters (like size, stamina, running speed, etc), and so on, giving you basically the power to change the world and anything in it. Obviously, this is something that you/the player can use, but NPCs cannot. I find it almost relative to this reality of ours, where we (aware of the existence of astral abilities and powers of the soul) can choose to learn them and use them on others (NPCs) who are not even aware of this possibility. (And yes, I do feel kinda bad for that. That they're so hapless and don't have a clue, it's almost dishonorable in my personal opinion.. unless it's an enemy, threat, etc.)

You do that and I'm proud of you. Hell yeah, hot damn.

I thank You, but I don't feel I deserve praise. On the other hand, I do feel that I was very immature person when I decided to become a Spiritual Satanist, so I couldn't have appreciated what "being a SS" meant. Now I feel ready. I want Father to be proud of me.

I saw that exceptionally clear dream where I was standing in darkness with a spotlight above my head and a beautiful blonde woman approaching me and giving me a warm hug. ..............This was not a regular dream. In a regular dream, people you meet are like NPCs in a computer game. She was real.

We mentioned lucid dreams as a mean to reaching and speaking with our Gods before. While these "definitely lucid" dreams (those in which you can even take off your clothes, grab a person and scream to them "I'm fucking lucid mate!") are normally more rare and probably not easy to enter at will (in my experience at least), I know that there's other dreams in which we simply "know" that some message is important and what happens in there is something meant for us to understand and rememeber clearly. Perhaps it is the Demon's presence making it that way, but we know that it's a memorable moment. These, I've had a few times, surely more than lucid ones. And interestingly enough I've had one of these just last night. I'm thinking of writing a new topic about it as there are questions that I can't yet answer for myself, and because it's just been too interesting (should have probably written it this morning when I remembered more details thought).

As for your blonde GD, I was almost going to say "oh, She's blonde, it can't be that one.." but heh... hair color, clothing, details.. sometimes people just see the same Demon/Demoness very differently, or even the same person can see them in a different way than they recall seeing them the first time.That said, I did see a very, VERY beautiful blonde Demoness months ago. She had very blue eyes, but I "felt" this more than seen them. The clothing was probably the least expected, as it resembled a girl's farm clothes, and there was this whole something about Her that made me think of "horses". Don't ask why, I have no clue lol. I plan to meet Her again when I can hold a conversation and ask what Her name is. (I have a SLIGHT idea She was Haures.. She seems pretty close to me, I keep seeing signs I feel are from Her a lot of the time, but I can't be too sure, and I don't want to assume things. Also, I had the impression that I didn't know this Demoness yet.)

I'm glad for you. I just hope you didn't take it as an insult. I can be crude and strict at times.

Nothing you say I take as an insult. If I can learn from your words I only welcome them.

Headaches, according to JoS, are a sign that the chakra is starting to function after a long hiatus. I'm not exactly worried because today is only the third day working on the 6th. Besides the actual opening ritual, I'm doing daily white/gold breathing anyway. IIRC, pain/discomfort pertains the symptoms of Kundalini rising against a blocked chakra.

That's a good observation. I did think of this eventuality (headaches have occurred before after some attempt to raise my energy/activate a chakra/etc) but you comparing this to the fact that Kundalini has been reported to feel so painful and discomforting.. it's a good thought.

Entities? .... I always said to them mentally that they probably want me to do more RTRs today... and the bad feelings/thoughts were gone in a matter of minutes. Later they tried to fuck with me through my family members who are still without but this usually almost always ended up with me going to a private room to do RTRs and Returning Curses, with panache. So lately they don't even bother anymore as I'm already 'too far gone' for them, I guess. After I dedicated, it quickly became clear to me that our Gods want us to be stand-up guys, brave, dauntless and self-sufficient (well, to a certain degree). Because of that, I haven't asked for much help, just like you. I just continue my path, tough it out and seek solutions.

"I always said to them mentally that they probably want me to do more RTRs today" cracked me up! XD But you're right.. and it's a great thing that you're taking it this way, I actually admire you, Brother. Confident and dedicated. Think I'll copy your style if I feel I get harassed in any way, it's only going to improve me as a SS.

As for asking for help, I think what I'll ask Father Satan is something that's already included in one of the rituals to Him in the JoS, to basically make me more steadily dedicated and my concentration while fighting in this spiritual war unwavering. I feel what I lack is something mental, a mental endurance. I just know that if I were able to concentrate with masterful skill I would be able to perform so much better than I ever have. Obviously, I also need tons of Void meditation, but I now know I can get there.

Looking forward to new posts from you, too. This thread is far from being over

HEIL SATAN

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If it keeps being this useful in our self understanding, the last post we'll probably write in here is going to be the one minutes away from reaching Godhood!

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Can't wait for when I'll be able to tell how close I am and have been to Father. From what I read, I should have been pretty close to Him before, coming to Spiritual Satanism almost as soon as I had the internet, having always been attracted by spiritual self betterment in an almost visceral way, making the leaning of astral abilities the number one purpose in life and other things all suggest I am not new to this.

I'm just wondering, out of curiosity, what did you do all those years? If you say you dedicated a long time ago, you had like years to study, evolve and train yourself in spiritual disciplines.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Just a curiosity lol.. when you say NPC, do you mean "Non Playing Character"?

Exactly. They follow their looping script which is: sleep, eat, shit, work, buy new shit, drink but it is all limited to the physical world AND in many cases, one of the branches of the false spirituality created by the enemy.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:"I always said to them mentally that they probably want me to do more RTRs today" cracked me up! XD But you're right.. and it's a great thing that you're taking it this way, I actually admire you, Brother. Confident and dedicated. Think I'll copy your style if I feel I get harassed in any way, it's only going to improve me as a SS.

Yup. I just got tired of them fucking with my mind daily, making me feel like shit. This gets old real fast. So I asked them that question every single time I felt that they tried to modify my thoughts in the direction of: just chill, you ain't gonna accomplish anything anyway with that RTR-gibberish, YOLO, joos are nice people too, go have a drink instead or whatever. I asked the question in low voice and directed it mentally at them. AND I really went and did the RTRs: 6 instead of planned 4, 4 instead of planned 2, feeling better by the minute.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Also, this stimulates a thought: (having been for years an avid videogame player I know that) there's something called "Command Console" in videogames... giving you basically the power to change the world and anything in it.

Ever tried /god and /noclip in Quake? This is quite a suitable analogy right there. Our command console is the power meditation. To open it, just sit quietly and close your eyes.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:And yes, I do feel kinda bad for that. That they're so hapless and don't have a clue, it's almost dishonorable in my personal opinion..

Get over it and get this xtian mindset out of you. What do chicken know about the flight of the Eagle? To you, only your own evolution has to matter. Life isn't fair and no one is equal. You can spread the information (about spiritual practices) covertly and anonymously, but every and each individual is the one who has to step through the gate and they must do it out of their free will. Also, a great analogy from the movie Matrix: You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.Not everyone is ready to become spiritual, some are here just for the ride. Think about it and you'll see for yourself. I'd suggest you re-read the Al Jilwah and meditate on these words.Show respect, trust and have faith. So many are longing for astral encounters and beautiful visions but this isn't a cuddle club. Start working without expecting anything. Have you cleaned your soul? Have you cleaned your karma? Tell me that you're at least doing the daily RTR + AC + AoP.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:I feel what I lack is something mental, a mental endurance. I just know that if I were able to concentrate with masterful skill I would be able to perform so much better than I ever have.

You, my friend, need a rocket up your ass. Get yourself together. You have to find this unwavering willpower made of cold stainless steel. If you don't, well, years fly by and you are stuck at the same exact spot, feeling like a sack of shit, still dreaming of beautiful visions. And before you know it, one day you wake up and are 80. Namsayin?Good things come in due time to those who work towards it.

I'm just wondering, out of curiosity, what did you do all those years? If you say you dedicated a long time ago, you had like years to study, evolve and train yourself in spiritual disciplines.

That's exactly what I've tried to do. I may have not been very constant when I was a newbie and completely new to this (including power meditation) but I took it up as a firm training shortly after, using energy daily (even if I couldn't feel it for the life of me.) Moved on the harder things rather soon as I thought 'more advanced will certainly mean easier to feel energy' so I ended up with elements maybe one or two years since I dedicated. You know the rest. Awakenings that felt numb, abilities that were felt only by the receivers, etc.

Aura of Protection and Aura Cleaning I have been using everyday since forever, RTRs are kind of a new thing for me as I have dedicated almost all my free time experimenting with ways to feel energy and empowering myself.

I never had 'theoretical' doubts on the power of RTRs as I understand extremely well how 'occult' and 'scientific' meet no matter what the odds are, so vibration is (in my opinion) the strongest and most effective form of magick (while Elements have, to me, the strongest energy.. for now, I may find stronger ones when I learn how to feel all energies of course), but only after that particular RTR I've done not long ago (it was with 3 repetitions as I really lacked the time) and seeing a pleased Satan with the eyes that work only very occasionally I have absolutely no doubt that daily RTRs are a must.

Ever tried /god and /noclip in Quake? This is quite a suitable analogy right there. Our command console is the power meditation. To open it, just sit quietly and close your eyes.

It's all so clear now, yes. I would have said the power meditation is the 'level grinding', as they call leveling up, and the command console is the affirmation after sufficient self empowerment, but the bottom line is the same. We can access it in this reality and take full advantage of it... ...and this statement will bring me to the next one in line.

Get over it and get this xtian mindset out of you. What do chicken know about the flight of the Eagle? To you, only your own evolution has to matter. Life isn't fair and no one is equal. You can spread the information (about spiritual practices) covertly and anonymously, but every and each individual is the one who has to step through the gate and they must do it out of their free will. Also, a great analogy from the movie Matrix: You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.Not everyone is ready to become spiritual, some are here just for the ride. Think about it and you'll see for yourself. I'd suggest you re-read the Al Jilwah and meditate on these words.Show respect, trust and have faith. So many are longing for astral encounters and beautiful visions but this isn't a cuddle club. Start working without expecting anything. Have you cleaned your soul? Have you cleaned your karma? Tell me that you're at least doing the daily RTR + AC + AoP.

Thanks for the kick in the ass. Needed it.It's almost funny, yesterday night I was evaluating and considering which abilities would suit various situations, some that I'd like, some that I have used, and I ended up declaring one in particular (something that can be translated as 'controlling minds') as unfit for me. Because I didn't feel it was right.Before you say again that I need a rocket up my ass, I'm gonna say two things: first, you're fucking right, Bro. Second, why the Hell do I feel it's unfit for me since I already used it on others with success.. and enjoyed it too?

I guess it is some remain of xtian indoctrination (through media, I think) because I tend to think "I don't have the right" to do such things.And here you are absolutely right. I just need to pull my head out of my ass and start claiming those rights as rightfully mine. Delighting in what I create as well as what I destroy. I've been doing so many changes and efforts I guess it's about time to realize this by myself.

The mindset collapses anyway when I realize if I weren't to take advantage of some 'unethical' skills on some NPC, someone else would, or the same people themselves would embrace self destruction pointlessly.

My fear, in conclusion, I think has to do a lot with "me not wanting to use cheap (yet effective) tricks in a way that makes me feel in any way similar to a jew". Yet fully aware that my final purpose is extremely different and what I do I may even just do to put myself through further training and evolve faster.

I don't know if I made sense or sounds like an excuse. It's not.It's an internal conflict that pushes me to try and do 'honorable' things (things that train and better me and possibly others involved too) and avoid whatever behaviour I feel as similar to the leeches, as I despise and hate them in such a way that I can almost perceive their scent and it sickens me to think they would 'approve' of that behaviour from me.

Big mess. Hope you understand what I'm trying to explain.

Side note.As for the 'controlling minds' trick that I pulled (just to clarify how) I just redirected someone's water towards me (water element being the emotional principle) and, basically, affirmed the form of the emotion had to be 'strong love'.The first time I used it (in a more intuitive, less elemental way) I ended up in bed with someone who got suddenly the 'urge' to be with me (but the emotional part was a bit messed up I guess). The second time I attracted a complete stranger (it was the official "water attraction experiment"). After a month she wrote me poems, then we got together for 7 years (yes, it was a fucked up experiment). All good but for the inconstant sex part, non existent at first (only romance), then strong all of a sudden, but with lots of irrational jealousy.

OK, don't know if you can literally call it 'controlling minds'.. more like redirecting emotions? Anyway.. This was an innocent experiment compared to some other shit I've heard of regarding mind control. I mean shit like Monarch Project training people to be triggered and become suicidal unless they have a formidable will and can quiet the mind.

This is the kind of shit I don't like.

When I first mentioned 'dishonorable' then, I referred to things of this kind. Skills I don't have and wouldn't really feel inclined to use anyway. (Example: I wouldn't feel inclined to trigger suicidal thoughts mainly because I find it something too sneaky even for my taste.. but I wouldn't have a problem with roasting someone's brain or heart with sufficient Fire element. I just find the latter 'cleaner'.)

Long explanation.. hope I made my point.

You, my friend, need a rocket up your ass. Get yourself together. You have to find this unwavering willpower made of cold stainless steel. If you don't, well, years fly by and you are stuck at the same exact spot, feeling like a sack of shit, still dreaming of beautiful visions. And before you know it, one day you wake up and are 80. Namsayin?Good things come in due time to those who work towards it.

You're right. I thought about that possibility, reaching 80 or more, and not having yet accomplished. I absolutely abhor the thought. Needless to say, we all want to reach Godhood in the current lifetime, don't we. And yes, good things need time to come to us, or reaching Godhood would be 10 minutes' work.

Personally, I think I know my weaknesses and what needs to be worked on. I may have a hard time feeling energy and I do treasure every time I have a vision, knowing I was doing SOMEthing right at least, but I'm pretty confident in what I do.

Cuddle club was never an option, the motto would rather be No pain No gain, here.SS life, how my opinion, is the hardest one, as we have to go against everything BEFORE we get to see results and gladly welcome our Father and guides' wonderful sight in our life.I think I'm finally in the beginners process of opening up the senses and becoming aware of our Gods I'M some way.

I'm never quitting this journey, and when I reach the goal it'll simply be one of possibly infinite landmarks to go through. But the journey takes time and, in my personal experience, a lot of stumbling. One doesn't just do everything right at the first try.

Don't doubt I'll put myself through all that's needed to evolve and reach our Gods. I may feel less inclined to do something than something else, but in no way I'm refusing Father's tasks to go back to Him.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Aura of Protection and Aura Cleaning I have been using everyday since forever, RTRs are kind of a new thing for me as I have dedicated almost all my free time experimenting with ways to feel energy and empowering myself.

IMO warfare is very important to the Powers of Hell. Nothing shows them your intentions better than warfare. The mere fact that you despise the enemy is not enough. You have to actually DO something to help the situation.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:and I ended up declaring one in particular (something that can be translated as 'controlling minds') as unfit for me.

Good. Because those little games with girls don't exactly qualify as being ethical in my eyes. It is OK to use this kind of Powers in, let's say street traffic to get the advantage or upper hand while driving but personal relationships are a whole different game. You can't attract a compatible partner this way and you already proved that to yourself, I guess. There is this thing called free will and, in my opinion, this has to be respected.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:And here you are absolutely right. I just need to pull my head out of my ass and start claiming those rights as rightfully mine.

You also have to learn to differentiate what is ethical and what is not. There is a Demon who can teach all about ethics.I think I understood what you were trying to explain.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:Cuddle club was never an option, the motto would rather be No pain No gain, here.SS life, how my opinion, is the hardest one, as we have to go against everything BEFORE we get to see results and gladly welcome our Father and guides' wonderful sight in our life.

More like Rome wasn't built in a day. Brick by brick we build ourselves on solid foundations. SS life can be hard and solitary but I wouldn't have it any other way!Regarding no pain, you have to be careful because pain can mean different things. Sometimes it means you are doing the right thing (like opening the 6th), sometimes it means you pushed yourself too far. Sometimes it gives you clues about potential blockages. It all depends on the context, as you can see.

IMO warfare is very important to the Powers of Hell. Nothing shows them your intentions better than warfare. The mere fact that you despise the enemy is not enough. You have to actually DO something to help the situation.

Absolutely. I learned that late but I did. Somewhere on the JoS HP Maxine states Satan values no one more than He does a warrior. I always thought of myself as one but it only helped me to forge myself as a person. Now, knowing I can actually do some good in the most important war humanity has ever faced, nothing makes more sense to me.Also, I really feel there's "some kind of feedback" when I do RTRs. Mantras and Runes I pronounce the way they are supposed to be, but I only feel the vibration high enough on certain sounds (like the M in AUM, or the B in Bjork). With the RTR words, maybe it's the fact that I can use a single long breath to speak 9 times the same letter, but I feel the entire word vibrating. And it's not a vibrationg "in the chakras", it's more like the word is being.. I don't know, "used up"?And that laughing you did that made you stop the RTR for a moment, I sometimes have a different experience, I feel (also when I'm not doing RTRs, just thinking about something related) "Satan's love" and it brings tears in my eyes. Of joy? "Joy from Satan"? XD Never was a website's name more appropriate.

Good. Because those little games with girls don't exactly qualify as being ethical in my eyes. It is OK to use this kind of Powers in, let's say street traffic to get the advantage or upper hand while driving but personal relationships are a whole different game. You can't attract a compatible partner this way and you already proved that to yourself, I guess. There is this thing called free will and, in my opinion, this has to be respected.

Agreed, of course, but yet again, there's pages in the JoS that teach you how to perform love/sex rituals, and there's Demons that specialized in love/sex relationships, forcing something that wasn't there upon someone. I don't know how fine is the line between ethical (what I called honorable) and unethical. In my case, I only used the gift I was thought knowing the whole time that IF the girl was willing to stay with me, I wouldn't have backed down and said "sorry, it was only an experiment". True enough, I took care of the last one (last one EVERRRR!) for 7 years. Part of me knew she would go someday, when it happened I simply knew I was living through something I asked for. (Also true, she cheated on me several times so I really don't feel bad for 'forcing' her to receive my attentions and love.) So, at the end of the day, I decided this 'force NPC into relationship' business is just not my business.I do know that it's something we can do, though. If HP Maxine wrote about it in the JoS then I guess I can assume we all could experiment with it in our journey to Spiritual evolution. Maybe the lesson here is exactly this: learning how not to become hooked by an 'unethical' power, knowing that real love is only coming when we are fully ready, as it would be pointless and not lasting before that. Duly noted, then.

SS life can be hard and solitary but I wouldn't have it any other way!

Absolutely. I really don't know what horrors those fools who "were SS and then left Satan" might face. It's like choosing xtian hell, ffs. Who in their right mind would do that??

Regarding no pain, you have to be careful because pain can mean different things. Sometimes it means you are doing the right thing (like opening the 6th), sometimes it means you pushed yourself too far. Sometimes it gives you clues about potential blockages. It all depends on the context, as you can see.

I guess the trick is to learn, as quickly as possible, how to distinguish the various kinds of pain. Headaches, for example, may mean resistance from a blocked chakra when trying to awaken it. In my personal understanding, from the latest month by practicing with Earth, pain from this Element suggested that I should change my approach to it slightly, and as a result I managed to stimulate the sixth chakra (by using pain as a measuring tape).

One thing I also did (stupidly enough, perhaps, by I learned a few things) a couple years ago was to, basically, "willingly submit" to someone's emotional harassment. While stating this out loud might just seem idiotic and a big no-no, I only gave the other enough power to push me down the cliff in a way I could still land on my feet. And while this sounds even more stupid, let me tell you about the results. I managed to lower my guard enough to become AWARE of the freaking angels I had around. It was one of the times in which I felt energy the strongest (by lowering my guard to experiement and learn) and I learned how it felt and how to recognize it in the future. It also taught me how exactly the measure of their power can work, how they manage to suck out energies, and how they use their 'emotional attacks'. Truth be told, it was a very frightening experience, but I am, like you said an "all or nothing" type, and if I see no results within a long enough time span, I may choose to go to extremes and analyze a situation in every way I can, even if it has meant (only that one time, never again) to let someone think they have won the battle. They didn't. Well, she didn't. She was a pitiful excuse for a human being, arrogant and manipulative like I never had seen the likes of. Claimed to be with Father, she didn't know shit. BUT, sometimes pain helps to push one into the right direction.The way those angels tried to hook on my brain was so physical I have no trouble understanding how a weak person my fall victim to it. It's like getting shoved by a crowd. **smirk** So you have to be STRONGER than a crowd and push them all back. And burn them alive, like I did when I had tasted it enough.

Yes, I know, it was probably a stupid thing to do and not very... responsible? Perhaps, but now I can detect whenever they are getting too close (almost never, guess they gave up?) and burn them before they can do anything. If I hadn't done what I did, I'd probably be sitting here with a dozen probes in my brain, being completely unaware of it all and unawarely feeding them like they were my cats. Screw that, I hate angels even more after that. I needed to face the reality of things in order to learn what it was like, what weak people go through, to know how well I am or not protected again these threats. People (NPCs) don't even think about these things. These motherfuckers are probably gathered in massive clouds where weak people gather like in pubs and public places. It's like feeding grounds and nobody bats an eye. Now I am glad I know. It took me a bit of suffering but, Hell, I know how to fight that shit!

Obviously, I'm not planning to do something like that again. I learned what I needed to learn, I moved on. Now my AC and AoP are also joined by a 'Fire counterpart'. I don't know, Fire seems amazing to fight just anything lol. Angels, bad residual energies, bad people... by the way, YES, I would find it ethical to mesmerize and even kill someone like the one whom I allowed to do that to me, lowering my guard and getting 'attacked'. People like that won't change, they might as well reincarnate and forget about the assholes they were. Am I wrong in your opinion?

IMO warfare is very important to the Powers of Hell. Nothing shows them your intentions better than warfare. The mere fact that you despise the enemy is not enough. You have to actually DO something to help the situation.

Absolutely. I learned that late but I did. Somewhere on the JoS HP Maxine states Satan values no one more than He does a warrior. I always thought of myself as one but it only helped me to forge myself as a person. Now, knowing I can actually do some good in the most important war humanity has ever faced, nothing makes more sense to me.Also, I really feel there's "some kind of feedback" when I do RTRs. Mantras and Runes I pronounce the way they are supposed to be, but I only feel the vibration high enough on certain sounds (like the M in AUM, or the B in Bjork). With the RTR words, maybe it's the fact that I can use a single long breath to speak 9 times the same letter, but I feel the entire word vibrating. And it's not a vibrationg "in the chakras", it's more like the word is being.. I don't know, "used up"?And that laughing you did that made you stop the RTR for a moment, I sometimes have a different experience, I feel (also when I'm not doing RTRs, just thinking about something related) "Satan's love" and it brings tears in my eyes. Of joy? "Joy from Satan"? XD Never was a website's name more appropriate.

Good. Because those little games with girls don't exactly qualify as being ethical in my eyes. It is OK to use this kind of Powers in, let's say street traffic to get the advantage or upper hand while driving but personal relationships are a whole different game. You can't attract a compatible partner this way and you already proved that to yourself, I guess. There is this thing called free will and, in my opinion, this has to be respected.

Agreed, of course, but yet again, there's pages in the JoS that teach you how to perform love/sex rituals, and there's Demons that specialized in love/sex relationships, forcing something that wasn't there upon someone. I don't know how fine is the line between ethical (what I called honorable) and unethical. In my case, I only used the gift I was thought knowing the whole time that IF the girl was willing to stay with me, I wouldn't have backed down and said "sorry, it was only an experiment". True enough, I took care of the last one (last one EVERRRR!) for 7 years. Part of me knew she would go someday, when it happened I simply knew I was living through something I asked for. (Also true, she cheated on me several times so I really don't feel bad for 'forcing' her to receive my attentions and love.) So, at the end of the day, I decided this 'force NPC into relationship' business is just not my business.I do know that it's something we can do, though. If HP Maxine wrote about it in the JoS then I guess I can assume we all could experiment with it in our journey to Spiritual evolution. Maybe the lesson here is exactly this: learning how not to become hooked by an 'unethical' power, knowing that real love is only coming when we are fully ready, as it would be pointless and not lasting before that. Duly noted, then.

SS life can be hard and solitary but I wouldn't have it any other way!

Absolutely. I really don't know what horrors those fools who "were SS and then left Satan" might face. It's like choosing xtian hell, ffs. Who in their right mind would do that??

Regarding no pain, you have to be careful because pain can mean different things. Sometimes it means you are doing the right thing (like opening the 6th), sometimes it means you pushed yourself too far. Sometimes it gives you clues about potential blockages. It all depends on the context, as you can see.

I guess the trick is to learn, as quickly as possible, how to distinguish the various kinds of pain. Headaches, for example, may mean resistance from a blocked chakra when trying to awaken it. In my personal understanding, from the latest month by practicing with Earth, pain from this Element suggested that I should change my approach to it slightly, and as a result I managed to stimulate the sixth chakra (by using pain as a measuring tape).

One thing I also did (stupidly enough, perhaps, by I learned a few things) a couple years ago was to, basically, "willingly submit" to someone's emotional harassment. While stating this out loud might just seem idiotic and a big no-no, I only gave the other enough power to push me down the cliff in a way I could still land on my feet. And while this sounds even more stupid, let me tell you about the results. I managed to lower my guard enough to become AWARE of the freaking angels I had around. It was one of the times in which I felt energy the strongest (by lowering my guard to experiement and learn) and I learned how it felt and how to recognize it in the future. It also taught me how exactly the measure of their power can work, how they manage to suck out energies, and how they use their 'emotional attacks'. Truth be told, it was a very frightening experience, but I am, like you said an "all or nothing" type, and if I see no results within a long enough time span, I may choose to go to extremes and analyze a situation in every way I can, even if it has meant (only that one time, never again) to let someone think they have won the battle. They didn't. Well, she didn't. She was a pitiful excuse for a human being, arrogant and manipulative like I never had seen the likes of. Claimed to be with Father, she didn't know shit. BUT, sometimes pain helps to push one into the right direction.The way those angels tried to hook on my brain was so physical I have no trouble understanding how a weak person my fall victim to it. It's like getting shoved by a crowd. **smirk** So you have to be STRONGER than a crowd and push them all back. And burn them alive, like I did when I had tasted it enough.

Yes, I know, it was probably a stupid thing to do and not very... responsible? Perhaps, but now I can detect whenever they are getting too close (almost never, guess they gave up?) and burn them before they can do anything. If I hadn't done what I did, I'd probably be sitting here with a dozen probes in my brain, being completely unaware of it all and unawarely feeding them like they were my cats. Screw that, I hate angels even more after that. I needed to face the reality of things in order to learn what it was like, what weak people go through, to know how well I am or not protected again these threats. People (NPCs) don't even think about these things. These motherfuckers are probably gathered in massive clouds where weak people gather like in pubs and public places. It's like feeding grounds and nobody bats an eye. Now I am glad I know. It took me a bit of suffering but, Hell, I know how to fight that shit!

Obviously, I'm not planning to do something like that again. I learned what I needed to learn, I moved on. Now my AC and AoP are also joined by a 'Fire counterpart'. I don't know, Fire seems amazing to fight just anything lol. Angels, bad residual energies, bad people... by the way, YES, I would find it ethical to mesmerize and even kill someone like the one whom I allowed to do that to me, lowering my guard and getting 'attacked'. People like that won't change, they might as well reincarnate and forget about the assholes they were. Am I wrong in your opinion?

IMO warfare is very important to the Powers of Hell. Nothing shows them your intentions better than warfare. The mere fact that you despise the enemy is not enough. You have to actually DO something to help the situation.

Absolutely. I learned that late but I did. Somewhere on the JoS HP Maxine states Satan values no one more than He does a warrior. I always thought of myself as one but it only helped me to forge myself as a person. Now, knowing I can actually do some good in the most important war humanity has ever faced, nothing makes more sense to me.Also, I really feel there's "some kind of feedback" when I do RTRs. Mantras and Runes I pronounce the way they are supposed to be, but I only feel the vibration high enough on certain sounds (like the M in AUM, or the B in Bjork). With the RTR words, maybe it's the fact that I can use a single long breath to speak 9 times the same letter, but I feel the entire word vibrating. And it's not a vibrationg "in the chakras", it's more like the word is being.. I don't know, "used up"?And that laughing you did that made you stop the RTR for a moment, I sometimes have a different experience, I feel (also when I'm not doing RTRs, just thinking about something related) "Satan's love" and it brings tears in my eyes. Of joy? "Joy from Satan"? XD Never was a website's name more appropriate.

Good. Because those little games with girls don't exactly qualify as being ethical in my eyes. It is OK to use this kind of Powers in, let's say street traffic to get the advantage or upper hand while driving but personal relationships are a whole different game. You can't attract a compatible partner this way and you already proved that to yourself, I guess. There is this thing called free will and, in my opinion, this has to be respected.

Agreed, of course, but yet again, there's pages in the JoS that teach you how to perform love/sex rituals, and there's Demons that specialized in love/sex relationships, forcing something that wasn't there upon someone. I don't know how fine is the line between ethical (what I called honorable) and unethical. In my case, I only used the gift I was thought knowing the whole time that IF the girl was willing to stay with me, I wouldn't have backed down and said "sorry, it was only an experiment". True enough, I took care of the last one (last one EVERRRR!) for 7 years. Part of me knew she would go someday, when it happened I simply knew I was living through something I asked for. (Also true, she cheated on me several times so I really don't feel bad for 'forcing' her to receive my attentions and love.) So, at the end of the day, I decided this 'force NPC into relationship' business is just not my business.I do know that it's something we can do, though. If HP Maxine wrote about it in the JoS then I guess I can assume we all could experiment with it in our journey to Spiritual evolution. Maybe the lesson here is exactly this: learning how not to become hooked by an 'unethical' power, knowing that real love is only coming when we are fully ready, as it would be pointless and not lasting before that. Duly noted, then.

SS life can be hard and solitary but I wouldn't have it any other way!

Absolutely. I really don't know what horrors those fools who "were SS and then left Satan" might face. It's like choosing xtian hell, ffs. Who in their right mind would do that??

Regarding no pain, you have to be careful because pain can mean different things. Sometimes it means you are doing the right thing (like opening the 6th), sometimes it means you pushed yourself too far. Sometimes it gives you clues about potential blockages. It all depends on the context, as you can see.

I guess the trick is to learn, as quickly as possible, how to distinguish the various kinds of pain. Headaches, for example, may mean resistance from a blocked chakra when trying to awaken it. In my personal understanding, from the latest month by practicing with Earth, pain from this Element suggested that I should change my approach to it slightly, and as a result I managed to stimulate the sixth chakra (by using pain as a measuring tape).

One thing I also did (stupidly enough, perhaps, by I learned a few things) a couple years ago was to, basically, "willingly submit" to someone's emotional harassment. While stating this out loud might just seem idiotic and a big no-no, I only gave the other enough power to push me down the cliff in a way I could still land on my feet. And while this sounds even more stupid, let me tell you about the results. I managed to lower my guard enough to become AWARE of the freaking angels I had around. It was one of the times in which I felt energy the strongest (by lowering my guard to experiement and learn) and I learned how it felt and how to recognize it in the future. It also taught me how exactly the measure of their power can work, how they manage to suck out energies, and how they use their 'emotional attacks'. Truth be told, it was a very frightening experience, but I am, like you said an "all or nothing" type, and if I see no results within a long enough time span, I may choose to go to extremes and analyze a situation in every way I can, even if it has meant (only that one time, never again) to let someone think they have won the battle. They didn't. Well, she didn't. She was a pitiful excuse for a human being, arrogant and manipulative like I never had seen the likes of. Claimed to be with Father, she didn't know shit. BUT, sometimes pain helps to push one into the right direction.The way those angels tried to hook on my brain was so physical I have no trouble understanding how a weak person my fall victim to it. It's like getting shoved by a crowd. **smirk** So you have to be STRONGER than a crowd and push them all back. And burn them alive, like I did when I had tasted it enough.

Yes, I know, it was probably a stupid thing to do and not very... responsible? Perhaps, but now I can detect whenever they are getting too close (almost never, guess they gave up?) and burn them before they can do anything. If I hadn't done what I did, I'd probably be sitting here with a dozen probes in my brain, being completely unaware of it all and unawarely feeding them like they were my cats. Screw that, I hate angels even more after that. I needed to face the reality of things in order to learn what it was like, what weak people go through, to know how well I am or not protected again these threats. People (NPCs) don't even think about these things. These motherfuckers are probably gathered in massive clouds where weak people gather like in pubs and public places. It's like feeding grounds and nobody bats an eye. Now I am glad I know. It took me a bit of suffering but, Hell, I know how to fight that shit!

Obviously, I'm not planning to do something like that again. I learned what I needed to learn, I moved on. Now my AC and AoP are also joined by a 'Fire counterpart'. I don't know, Fire seems amazing to fight just anything lol. Angels, bad residual energies, bad people... by the way, YES, I would find it ethical to mesmerize and even kill someone like the one whom I allowed to do that to me, lowering my guard and getting 'attacked'. People like that won't change, they might as well reincarnate and forget about the assholes they were. Am I wrong in your opinion?