I Was Thrown Off A United Airlines Flight For Taking This Photo Of My Seathttp://www.businessinsider.com/thrown-off-united-flight-for-taking-photo-2013-2/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:57:45 -0400Matthew Klinthttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/5132525aeab8eaf435000001AKSat, 02 Mar 2013 14:26:18 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5132525aeab8eaf435000001
I stopped flying United years ago. I have no desire to give my business to an organization with miserable employees that hate their jobs and their customers. I have endless stories of FA hostility toward passengers. It's Virgin America for me now. Happy employees, clean aircraft, great attitude and customer service.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512cf24069bedd2c0d000002BlueCollarCriticTue, 26 Feb 2013 12:34:56 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512cf24069bedd2c0d000002
You do realize this is all part of the conditioning of the public, conditioning to be fearful of everything and everyone. From public schools that expel kids for making pretend they have a gun (by mimicking one with their hands while at play) to zero-tolerance policies that are more like zero-intelligence policies. No this is not a wild conspiracy theory but the results of a decade of pushing the fear of terrorism on the public. Despite the fact that most have a better chance at winning the lottery then being a victim of terrorism people still buy into the lie that they must give up any freedom, any right and do anything the government says else the Islamic boogeyman will get them.
Not since 9/11 has there been a terrorist attack that was not managed by the FBI or one of the other US Federal Government Law Enforcement Agencies that fall under the dept. of homeland security. Even though the well-publicized Christmas Day Shoe Bomber has been verified to have come a bout because a US Federal Law Enforcement agency interjected with the airlines to make sure the bomber would board the plane, people still believe it is a legitimate terrorist attack that we were lucky to have avoided. The US Government made certain the bomber would board the plane and still the public believes it’s an example of why we have to give in to government out of fear of more possible attacks.
FACTS:
1) Over the last 2-3 years the Dept of Homeland Security has acquired 2 Billion rounds of ammo for its various agencies/agents from the IRS to the FBI. Using the amount of ammo used in the war in Iraq, 2 billion rounds would be enough to wage a 30 year long Iraq like war. Why does the government need that much ammo especially when much of it is hollow-point and thereby illegal to use outside the US Boarders?
2) In the last few days Dept Of Homeland Memo was leaked that cited internal plans/desires to ban and confiscate ALL guns and not just those deemed to be assault weapons.
3) Last week a US based company that makes bullet practice targets confessed to and publicly apologized for targets depicting average Americans holding guns (not Islamic terrorists) including pregnant women and even children and all labeled as ‘no hesitation target’
4) The US Dollar is in the verge of collapse and losing its status as the world reserve currency. That status is the only thing that enables the US to continually print money from nothing to pay its bills.
5) US Dairy’s submit request to FDA to change the definition of MILK so as ..” to provide for the use of any safe and suitable sweetener as an optional ingredient”. The artificial sweetener aspartame would qualify as one of these and the change of the definition would allow for the list of ingredients to exclude the fact that aspartame or any other sweetener (real or artificial) is in the milk. Why is the US Dairy seeking to be able to include sweeteners in milk and without having to list them as an ingredient?
Do you really think this is all just coincidental?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512cccaceab8eaf84d000006InphillyTue, 26 Feb 2013 09:54:36 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512cccaceab8eaf84d000006
"it made me question my loyalty to United" - As it should. The ability to abuse power is beyond measure when one isn't used to having it in any other aspect of life, just like FA.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512cc7c6ecad04430e000009ChristopherTue, 26 Feb 2013 09:33:42 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512cc7c6ecad04430e000009
case closed - the second I read that you used the word "terrorist" I knew what would happen. Unfortunately you were only 15 in 2001 and may not have realize how sensitive FA's are to that word.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512c5712ecad043334000009Mallory FrancoTue, 26 Feb 2013 01:32:50 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512c5712ecad043334000009
If it's against the rules to take pictures inside a United aircraft, then I suggest they go after the owners of thousands of photos uploaded to Instagram/Yfrog/Facebook/Twitpic/FlickR (there are several groups dedicated to flying on FlickR) every day, showing the interior, the food, what they see out the window, crew and other passengers.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512c073269bedd1f3b000004MitchMon, 25 Feb 2013 19:52:02 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512c073269bedd1f3b000004
Yeh, you said terrorist on a plane lol! I think just mentioning that word is reason enough to concern a pilot in this current political/social climate. (Sadly I know) but anyone with reasonable intelligence would not mention the word terrorist on a plane in any context, so my sympathy for you is minimal.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512be32269bedd695a00000cThomas ScheurichMon, 25 Feb 2013 17:18:10 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512be32269bedd695a00000c
Flight crews are trained to close ranks when one of them gets a bad feeling about a situation. In other words, if a lot is left unspoken, each crew member will assume that their fellow crew member's judgement was right.
Frankly, I'm pretty sure most people who do reviewing or blogging about travel (a bizarre occupation: I will never understand the importance of obsessing over small gradations in comfort and service in a setting where you will spend less than 0.1% of your life even if you are one of the most frequent fliers in the world) never reveal that they are doing so. It has two ill effects: compromises the integrity of your work and sets the crew ill at ease to know someone who is judging them (and oh so eager to misunderstand the decisions they make) is close at hand.
The situation is regrettable but the author is overreacting. It was a bit of social awkwardness to try to explain after the fact why pictures were taken, and really unfortunate that that little bit of awkwardness gave the flight attendant bad vibes, but... they're trained not to ignore those. Let it go and forget it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512b925aeab8ea126d00000aadvillMon, 25 Feb 2013 11:33:30 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512b925aeab8ea126d00000a
Even if you are right about the risks of moving so many diverse people around it is pitiful that American "security" policies are deteriorating so much something that should be and was for many decades a normal activity,the case in this article is one in thousands the others don´t have the media to defend themselves but this aggression against unharmed and defenseless people is the most stupid and shortsighted government designed in all American History.
Homeland Security is in good part responsible for this sad situation, Homeland must be limited in their powers behind not in front of Human Rights and must be drastically reduced in budget and personal, and people with something between the ears must design the rules.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512b2a74ecad04f47800001cSnickersMon, 25 Feb 2013 04:10:12 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512b2a74ecad04f47800001c
Why you are on United in the first place is beyond me, it's a 3rd rate airline, and there is almost always a better choice. Always choose a non-US carrier for international travel, no exceptions. Also never say the word terrorist or bomb in an airport or on a plane.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512b04baecad04502f000009DPMon, 25 Feb 2013 01:29:14 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512b04baecad04502f000009
The reason the FA lied (if she did) because you asked her to hang your coat.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512a700eecad04b41b000004Nikki HilsonSun, 24 Feb 2013 14:54:54 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512a700eecad04b41b000004
Well you are a fool for using a red flag word on the flight. Why don't you try saying "I am not a terrorist and I don't have a bomb" next time you go through security and see how empathetic and understanding the folks in uniform are? And why would you presume the captain would have any interest in resolving your petty problem while delaying 150 other passengers? If you hate United so much, fly another airline, but of course you're too hooked to your free upgrades to do anything other than pontificate while continuing to gather your previous United miles.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512a384aecad04e92d000027TexasJimSun, 24 Feb 2013 10:56:58 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512a384aecad04e92d000027
My sister has been a FA for 20 years. The amount of abuse they take from entitled and demanding jackass customers is almost unbelievable. You have the flying public to thank for the FA's who have gotten jaded, and are quick to boot somebody off a plane rather than waste pre-flight time listening to somebody "boo hoo" about their personal situation, or try explain why they were doing something possibly against the rules (like taking pictures). You'd have better luck trying to explain to a cop why you were speeding.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512a37e7ecad04b82d000021Jim MaguireSun, 24 Feb 2013 10:55:19 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512a37e7ecad04b82d000021
Wow- This passenger sounds like he is not even slightly familiar with the events of Sept 11, 2001. (FYI - Just to bring you up to speed... Before that date, terrorists had spent spent years scoping out vulnerabilities in US airlines, aircraft, and security procedures. Two of the four hijacked aircraft belonged to United, which might drive that airline's stricter-than-the-rest-of-the-industry standard on no cameras pointed towards the flight deck.)
"The Flight Attendant lied"?... The flight attendant would have NO way of knowing whether a passenger was continuing to take video or still photos; she could only judge whether or not the passenger still had their camera out, and pointed towards the flight deck, which he does not deny.
Keep in mind that the first indication to United passengers that something was wrong on the morning of Sept 11 was that some very cooperative business-suit-wearing professionals suddenly slashed the throats of their flight attendants, in order to gain the attention of the pilots. Before that moment, the same United "passengers" were acting cooperatively and doing nothing to arouse suspicion - not even taking photographs - before they killed 3000 innocent people. They probably did not use the word "terrorist" while boarding the plane, and their cover story certainly included some legitimate-looking business cards - which you can have printed for $5 almost anywhere, to say whatever you want. This guy got what he asked for.
One time at LAX, I was pulled out of line and given a "special security screening" - all because I had bought my ticket under my nickname of "Jim" instead of my legal name of "James": That airline said my ticket name did not match my legal name, which was a red-flag for boarding a plane. I told them they had my complete cooperation - but when it was all over, I asked what would happen if that wasn't the case. They said I'd have been questioned by the FBI. Eventually, I passed their security screening and I was allowed on the flight. No big deal - I didn't go blog-whining. I have a funny story to tell.
Newsflash: Yes, more than 10 years have gone by, but we ARE still living in a post-Sept 11 world. Kudos to United for erring on the side of safety! I will continue to fly United every chance I get.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512a33d7ecad04da2b000007Jim WhiteSun, 24 Feb 2013 10:37:59 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512a33d7ecad04da2b000007
"I hope you didn't think I was a terrorist."
It wasn't the pictures. Never, ever say the T-word on a flight. It's up there with "bomb" now. I don't agree, but this is what 10+ years of unnecessary hysteria looks like.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512a1c9b69beddd472000005SJesteSun, 24 Feb 2013 08:58:51 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512a1c9b69beddd472000005
Get over it you petulant '26 year old' spoiled brat.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512a00fa69bedde52c00000cDaniel BASun, 24 Feb 2013 07:00:58 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512a00fa69bedde52c00000c
The terrorists didn't win , the guy wasn't taking anymore pictures for him to be thrown out of the flight , it was a rude way to act from the flight crew .http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512a00a26bb3f7003f000006Daniel BASun, 24 Feb 2013 06:59:30 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512a00a26bb3f7003f000006
Fascinated by how dumb you are , now because he wanted to explain to her why he took the pictures that is a reason for him to be thrown out of the flight ?! are you an idiot or just trying to find an excuse for such behavior .http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5129e6d96bb3f7540700001avolvic71Sun, 24 Feb 2013 05:09:29 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5129e6d96bb3f7540700001a
Whatever the Pilot or the FA has their own points to be addressed. I agreed with some comments here that some sensitive words are strictly NO NO words on board, such as, hijack, bomb, terrorist and so on. In case the sentence is not being understand clearly. There is no chance to double confirm what are you trying to say.
Now I am more interested to know after they offloaded you if they have deplane the whole aircraft, redo the security check on the equipment and the passenger. Since you were in the aircraft and deplane and not to fly with the aircraft, they are supposed to do so.
Pilot use the running late reason to deplane you is not valid then.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5129ccd26bb3f7ff3800002ehiepsfinanceSun, 24 Feb 2013 03:18:26 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5129ccd26bb3f7ff3800002e
I would not generalize about an entire airline based on one single issue that's likely caused by just one particular person. What if the flight attendant had been with Virgin Atlantic or any other airline? Safety first is the golden rule, always. Any airline would rather kick you out of the plane, or cancel a flight, than risk carrying a terrorist potential. If you're at a security check point and are asked to remove an item, you comply. You do not explain that you're not a terrorist and not carrying a bomb. The moment a security person hears either word, he immediately perceives you as a potential threat - simply human psychology at force.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512949eeeab8ea605a000005cmonsterSat, 23 Feb 2013 17:59:58 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512949eeeab8ea605a000005
People can always do what Richard Branson did after feeling that the airline industry sucked, no one is stopping them from starting their own airline.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512948d869bedd144800000aA-1KSat, 23 Feb 2013 17:55:20 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512948d869bedd144800000a
I too am a IK United flyer but it really does not matter. The service started deteriorating as soon as United bought Continental in 2010 and to continues to get worse. I just had one of the rudest FA supervisor on one of their domestic 767 flights. There is was no interaction but the behavior, words and actions in the business cabin clearly indicated their he was doing us a favor.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512943f3eab8ea174b00000512390112Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:34:27 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512943f3eab8ea174b000005
nearly everyone on BI is a capitalist, free-marketeer until they bi#*# and moan about AT&T, the airlines, Verizon or their utility.
then all of a sudden, it's who's going protect the customer? you still have a choice when dealing with airlines, drive instead.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5129396c6bb3f7ee32000003you are too niceSat, 23 Feb 2013 16:49:32 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5129396c6bb3f7ee32000003
I have stopped using all american airlines for international flight. The service simply sucks. I use jetblue for domestic flights only now.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51292d5deab8ea401800002frupertoSat, 23 Feb 2013 15:58:05 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51292d5deab8ea401800002f
and moron reporters who don't have to the common sense to know when to keep their mouths shuthttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/51292acceab8ea3818000001Sour mash sour grapesSat, 23 Feb 2013 15:47:08 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51292acceab8ea3818000001
Oh sure. I suppose next you will want us to lock people up for saying "gun" in a theater?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512927ef69bedd127e000001Darkness of the MindSat, 23 Feb 2013 15:34:55 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512927ef69bedd127e000001
Now we'll translate your reasoning into plain English. What you are claiming is that all life works thus:
Companies make rules, not legislatures.
Customers then give the companies money, and comply with the company'es rules no matter how stupid.
The very heart of why supply-side does not work. It is patently insane.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512923ceeab8ea9208000001when fear becomes insanitySat, 23 Feb 2013 15:17:18 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512923ceeab8ea9208000001
Pretty sad. The stupid lying female, the stupid fearful captain, and the colors of fascism -- when corporations take on governmental powers. One more example of why I stopped flying. Idiots all around.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51291beaeab8ea9375000008denverdaveSat, 23 Feb 2013 14:43:38 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51291beaeab8ea9375000008
How typical of a legacy UAL cabin crew. This would never happen with Continental. It seems the philosophy of the UA flight attendants is that the customer is the enemy and the flight attendants are there NOT to serve but to discipline the passengers. I had a flight attendant order me to put down my newspaper during the safety briefing. This is not an FAA requirement. I have seen the briefing a thousand times and had located my nearest exits and counted the number of seat rows to reach them. I have never seen such a group of nasties in my life. I hope UA offers these people early retirement or fires them for bad attitudes but with their union this will probably be impossible.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512914b36bb3f72a6e000001Duong NguyenSat, 23 Feb 2013 14:12:51 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512914b36bb3f72a6e000001
Private plane they can do what they want.. Sure the FA might have lied or might not have.. that's another matter, but they can deny you boarding a flight, that is well in their rights. There are plenty of legal redress if you wish to peruse them..http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128dffc6bb3f7630c000007ThatAmericanSat, 23 Feb 2013 10:27:56 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128dffc6bb3f7630c000007
First mistake was not outing this flight attendant by name, nothing like a public shame that doesn't bring to knees someone clearly in the wrong and this bitch sounds like she needs a cooling. Second problem was giving US Airlines a bad review, and lastly, US Airlines sucks ass. Proof is the fact they'd only just retro fitted their plans with cameras.
Author was still stupid for trying to reason with an flight attendent, there's a reason why they do that job. They are particularly bright and the only power they have in life, is at take pre-take off. So don't talk to them. Moron.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128d02decad04757900000amy.commentSat, 23 Feb 2013 09:20:29 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128d02decad04757900000a
oh for chrissakes... if uttering the word 'terrorist' is a friggin reason to get tossed, then we are way beyond any sense of rationality. i guess he should be happy he wasn't taken into custodyhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128cfab69beddbf26000011calltoactionSat, 23 Feb 2013 09:18:19 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128cfab69beddbf26000011
Read my lips, "I am not a terrorist". We clear?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128cf4e69beddf92000000bcalltoactionSat, 23 Feb 2013 09:16:46 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128cf4e69beddf92000000b
I said wasn't a terrorist on board a commercial flight and I don't understand why I was thrown off? I though I made myself clear? I am not a terrorist. Hello?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128cd716bb3f7f56100003bcalltoactionSat, 23 Feb 2013 09:08:49 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128cd716bb3f7f56100003b
Have your uproar. It's only good until the next terrorist attempt and then you'll switch your tune.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128c404eab8ea4830000006bruceklassenSat, 23 Feb 2013 08:28:36 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128c404eab8ea4830000006
Join the club... all of us who travel a lot, have at some time had the same experience, it seems. Mine was on Delta. I complained, got some $20 gift certificate response, asked for an apology, but got a letter from the union, finally. Bottom line, your captain just did not want the hassle with the union. Your FA was a bad egg, but she is protected, and there is nothing anyone can do...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128bcf969bedd0575000031Rondy K. SmithSat, 23 Feb 2013 07:58:33 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128bcf969bedd0575000031
Keep your yap shut... follow the rules... ride the plane. You are on a plane sitting behind a pilot and you have given them an inkling that you're not satisfied with something/anything/your thing -- or it doesn't matter what. You runs your mouth, you sits out the flight. Bingo.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128aa04ecad048434000007droopeySat, 23 Feb 2013 06:37:40 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128aa04ecad048434000007
If you were a badass and not just a push over you would have said I would take no more pictures and take a snap of the FA. Respect my authority. Simples. Grow Some.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128a6caeab8eaab70000025Bin Laden WonSat, 23 Feb 2013 06:23:54 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128a6caeab8eaab70000025
Bin Laden is dead but unfortunately he died AFTER defeating the mighty USA.
The very idea of the USA is based on freedom and liberties for its citizens. Now that the freedom has been taken away from people, USA is no different from any other kleptocracy in the world.
TSA officers groping people in the name of security in airports, anyone likes that?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128a22cecad04e11a00002cTimmy CSat, 23 Feb 2013 06:04:12 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128a22cecad04e11a00002c
The guy didn't know when to shut up. Just put the phone away and don't talk to the sky waitress unless you want her to bring you something.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51289ee2eab8eaca64000011BRADSat, 23 Feb 2013 05:50:10 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51289ee2eab8eaca64000011
But he also no interest in getting to thehttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128868a69bedda97a000001Anton OlffSat, 23 Feb 2013 04:06:18 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128868a69bedda97a000001
They were better when called stews, and in many cases FA stands for Fat Ass whom come down the aisles and knock your drink over.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128796569bedded52000024Peter DykesSat, 23 Feb 2013 03:10:13 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128796569bedded52000024
What a terrible airline it is. Once flew first class to L.A from Hong Kong, and was 'served' by a woman who could have got a job in a concentration camp. Awful curt, unsmiling, resentful attitude. Ticket cost me US $10000!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128737b6bb3f73d38000037fred-sofSat, 23 Feb 2013 02:44:59 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128737b6bb3f73d38000037
This is completely your fault, you decided to fly a crappy airline like United. Treat yourself, your comfort and your money with some respect, next time try flying Virgin Alantic, JAL or Singapore Air.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51287205eab8ea920300003alukmanleongSat, 23 Feb 2013 02:38:45 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51287205eab8ea920300003a
that is when google glasses would come in handyhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/51286fd7ecad045a3e00002cwebcookiesSat, 23 Feb 2013 02:29:27 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51286fd7ecad045a3e00002c
"She didn't take my business card" Oh my, but I'm a blogger I'm so important!
The sense of entitlement is strong on this one.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51286baeecad04343a00001aJettZetterSat, 23 Feb 2013 02:11:42 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51286baeecad04343a00001a
With more than 1.5 Million air miles, I stopped flying United about 10 years ago as a direct result of their in flight crew. I sent my story to United Corp with no reply.
I am still flying more than 150K miles/year, but will never be caught on a United flight again. I'd rather go out of my way, pay more, and endure a 20 hour layover in Kabul than fly them again.
Customer service is gone, and so is this customer.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512867e1ecad04b13300000fPeteSat, 23 Feb 2013 01:55:29 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512867e1ecad04b13300000f
You're one of those who was a teacher's pet growing up. And now, your nose is permanently brown from your boss' Hershey Highway (if you even have a job).http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51286673ecad04c033000014patriot4759Sat, 23 Feb 2013 01:49:23 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51286673ecad04c033000014
For starters, what a stupid rule. As if stopping anyone who says the word "bomb" is going to make ANY difference in the search for ACTUAL terrorists. As if they're dumb enough to have a bomb and THEN start talking about it. Statistically you can probably trust people who say the word "bomb" on a plane MORE than those who don't say anything.
But that's not the point. The point is to keep scaring people into thinking there's a boogieman under the bed. That way they can continue to justify Permanent War and RUSSIAN-STYLE domestic surveillance and trillion-dollar Homeland Security budgets. And the sheeple just lap it up. Yes Sir! No sir Mein Kommandant!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512865f86bb3f7c62200000bAttila MagSat, 23 Feb 2013 01:47:20 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512865f86bb3f7c62200000b
The line of the story that really got me thinking: "Indeed, the terrorists have won when 11.5 years after the attacks U.S. citizens are scared of a camera onboard an airplane." Really sad but so true.. ... as long as we keep beeing paranoid and mistrust one and other in every move we make on an airplane, in trafic of when/where ever, the terrorist have indeed won... It's a shame...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512864116bb3f7561a000018Alan Carl BrownSat, 23 Feb 2013 01:39:13 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512864116bb3f7561a000018
But I'm not rationalizing their response. I'm saying don't try to get the foot soldiers to be rational about the rules. They are conditioned not to be. They are required to mindlessly follow them.
Whether the practice is rational or not is a whole other thing that is the concern of the people who make the rules. Don't waste energy on efforts that accomplish nothing.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51286282eab8ea006200000fRBBSat, 23 Feb 2013 01:32:34 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51286282eab8ea006200000f
Yeah, either he was being a passive aggressive annoying guy or dumb annoying guy. Either way I see why he got thrown off. This would have never happened to must of us. Just sit down be quiet so many annoying people on flights these days. Dont even get me started with people and their pets on flights.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512861ddeab8eadb5a00000echeckessentialSat, 23 Feb 2013 01:29:49 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512861ddeab8eadb5a00000e
if you don't like the service, go somewhere else. As much as the airlines consolidated, you can still get just about anywhere on someone else if you feel the service is that bad. Quit being a martyr - blog about some other airline.
For all you that only want young and good looking, be careful. Someday your employer might demand the same of you. Attitude is more important.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128603ceab8eaae5f000001Seriously?Sat, 23 Feb 2013 01:22:52 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128603ceab8eaae5f000001
This seems to be rationalizing a completely mindless, kneejerk aversion to a word, regardless of use or context. The blogger wasn't joking about terrorists, he just said he wasn't a terrorist. How is that a joke?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51285f3e6bb3f7e015000004RobScottSat, 23 Feb 2013 01:18:38 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51285f3e6bb3f7e015000004
Clearly you are embarrassed and offended since you know you intended no harm. But take yourself out of the situation and try to look at it for an objective persons point of view. The crew was concerned. They have to worry more about all the passengers safety and the plane more than one persons pride. They dont know you or your motives. The conservative choice will always be to remove doubt, meaning to ask the passenger in question - in this case you- to leave. If i had been another passenger, i wold have preferred this outcome. Yo may question your loyalty to united, but it strengthens mine. And by the way, you may want to consider your style with other people that you weird them out.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51285aed6bb3f7a70f00000arjb_bostonSat, 23 Feb 2013 01:00:13 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51285aed6bb3f7a70f00000a
Airlines are in general very inflexible. Our airlines here in the US are the worst when it comes to quality of service. Attendants are generally rude and act like they are doing paying customers a favor.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512853a8ecad04110d00000esaravana kumarSat, 23 Feb 2013 00:29:12 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512853a8ecad04110d00000e
this is embarassing and insulting,this happens in indian temples also,where is the value for humans?in the name of security the govt machinery is seeing each citizen as terrorists until proved otherwise,this means that any govt is afraid of them and anticipating an attack anytine,psycgological fear,that affects commen public.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51284f1feab8eacd32000018AshSat, 23 Feb 2013 00:09:51 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51284f1feab8eacd32000018
Have't you seen the movie Harold and Kumar goes to Amsterdramhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/51284dab69bedd236900001aSalPSat, 23 Feb 2013 00:03:39 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51284dab69bedd236900001a
The terrorists won, they have ruined life at the airport for all of us and made airplanes miserable. Keep pretending that by the author saying the word terrorist he's the idiot. You lost your freedom and stupid airline employees are just on a power trip. worthless captain.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512845acecad04ad75000020cmonsterFri, 22 Feb 2013 23:29:32 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512845acecad04ad75000020
It is ever surprising how people consistently create situations where they can become "traumatized and highly embarrassed" by their own actions. The attendant showed him the airline's policy, he complied and the attendant went along with her business (which includes looking out for the wellbeing of all of the passengers). But that wasn't enough for this guy, he felt the personal necessity to make sure that his personal misperception(s) weren't held by the attendant, who hadn't shown any bias what-so-ever. She even held a different passenger to the same policy.
Regardless of whether the attendant or the captain was lying, they wouldn't have had the opportunity if he hadn't pressed the issue. You just can't do anything on a flight that could upset the performance of any of the crewmembers. Makes you wonder if the guy could write an interesting story without instigating such drama.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51284316eab8ea5121000001PoliticalPaulFri, 22 Feb 2013 23:18:30 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51284316eab8ea5121000001
Truly sorry for your troubles - I just wish we'd see similar indignation over the lies of the current administration (fast & furious / Benghazi / A video caused riots / Joe Biden has a brain...)http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128414e69bedd4553000002Gian Bender Zatoichi MinnellaFri, 22 Feb 2013 23:10:54 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128414e69bedd4553000002
United has the rudest flight crew of all the airlines I have flown with. Last time I flown with them one of the stewardess mustof been in a bad mood and verbally abusing a customer that spoke no English. Until one of her colleagues almost physically restrained her. And after her colleague basically told her she was out of line she flipped at her as well and walked away.
I understand United is a Shitty company to work for. But like I said to all my current and former coworkers, if you don't like your boss or the company you work for seek other employment. There is no point of acting like an idiot because you're not happy with your job.
Because of this incident I made it a point to avoid united on my next flight to Asia. I'm spending $200 extra in order not to fly with United. If that does not say how unhappy I am with United not sure what will.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512838b1eab8ea840a000005Blue WindezFri, 22 Feb 2013 22:34:09 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512838b1eab8ea840a000005
What am I missing here? All the rep and the captain had to do was ask to see the photos on the phone. Only one pic and the FA is lying. More than one, and the writer is lying. This was an easy call and the non-thinking captain got to make the call? This is the guy in charge of your safety (and NOT the FA as someone else wrote)? Find another airline (as I have done - United Sucks!).http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128337c69bedded2b000015rotorhead1871Fri, 22 Feb 2013 22:11:56 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128337c69bedded2b000015
ouch!!! united does stink!!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51282dc5eab8ead671000001whyworrynowFri, 22 Feb 2013 21:47:33 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51282dc5eab8ead671000001
My first thought, you were taking the picture to be part of your pictures of your trip. Welcome abroad would be a great picture if you were putting an album together of a trip that had significance. The best bet is when they correct you on the plane is to say "oh, I didn't know. I'm sorry." That way it would be "the end". I think the best bet when this happens is say but I didn't do anything wrong while you get your belongings and shake your head looking in disbelief as you go down between the seats. That way you don't really look guilty to anyone. We come across dishonesty all the tiime. Whether it's the whole staff at a hospital cover up, a police defending a corrupt officer, or a suspicious FA stretching the truth determined to get you off the plan because of her concerns.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512826d56bb3f7362a00001fKCRobFri, 22 Feb 2013 21:17:57 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512826d56bb3f7362a00001f
Sky-waitress?
(Actually, most FAs are decent and do a tough job but I couldn't resist)http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51282698ecad04053b00001bAlan Carl BrownFri, 22 Feb 2013 21:16:56 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51282698ecad04053b00001b
Sounds like the author made the mistake of saying the word "terrorist".
When dealing with people who can only follow and enforce rules (and we need them, we truly do), you can't do things that wave red flags and get their attention.
This is not hard to avoid. Never explain or try to reason with them. Just comply and keep it all to yourself. Be done with them as quickly as possibly and life will be easier for everybody.
They're never going to change. If they did, they'd switch careers.
They don't have the time to hold court and adjudicate the truth of all things. They are far too busy being server, cop, nurse, janitor and all the other tasks required to keep that city in the sky functioning.
So stop banging your head against the well. Put a band aid on your boo boo and take a nap.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512826646bb3f7772a000018KCRobFri, 22 Feb 2013 21:16:04 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512826646bb3f7772a000018
Then we're all guilty... just think of the millions of pictures taken of the Grand Canyon from 35,000 feet. The internet is full of them... track down all these photographers and stick their butts in prison!
Guess what: most people don't bother reading lame, booger-encrusted airline magazines.
And guess what else: someone trying to secretly film the top-secret, highly-classified, super-sensitive goings on in an airline cabin can do it completely undetected using any number of covert cameras available from Amazon. Indeed, one could use the iPhone while pretending to play a game of solitaire.
The FA made a mountain out of a molehill. She must be cut from the same cloth as a TSA obergropenfuhrer.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512825f96bb3f78b2c000002Yes pay for pee!Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:14:17 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512825f96bb3f78b2c000002
Already happening!
<a href="http://articles.cnn.com/2010-04-07/travel/ryanair.lavatory.fee_1_overhead-bins-fares-carry-on-bags?_s=PM:TRAVEL" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://articles.cnn.com/2010-04-07/travel/ryanair.lavatory.fee_1_overhead-bins-fares-carry-on-bags?_s=PM:TRAVEL</a>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512824716bb3f77b2a000008KCRobFri, 22 Feb 2013 21:07:45 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512824716bb3f77b2a000008
Maybe it would be best if no one said anything at all. Just think of the uproar if someone had referred to their Chap Stik Medicated Lip *Balm* (sounds close enough). In the vernacular, the FA and pilot were being chicken sh*ts.
Only in the US would taking a picture of an airplane cabin or being a 3-year old with spina bifida be regarded as a red-alart security situation while a bunch of Allah-praising imams scattered on a flight acting weird are entitled to a settlement for scaring the crap out of other passengers.
<a href="http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/girl-wheelchair-detained-tsa-caught-tape-18555238" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/girl-wheelchair-detained-tsa-caught-tape-18555238</a>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_imams_incident" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_imams_incident</a>
The comments here tell me the word "sheeple" is apt.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512823f6ecad04e63800001cgoosh69Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:05:42 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512823f6ecad04e63800001c
It is 100% against FAA and TSA rules to joke about being a terrorist, having a bomb, etc. EVERY frequent flier knows this! That was clearly the issue. Idiotic to use that term.
See for example: "Here's some dynamite advice: don't make bomb jokes in airports
Confused about whether to make a terrorism-related wisecrack as you pass through security? Consult this handy guide"
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/oliver-burkemans-blog/2012/nov/27/dynamite-advice-bomb-jokes-airports" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/oliver-burkemans-blog/2012/nov/27/dynamite-advice-bomb-jokes-airports</a>
Here is from an official TSA blog:
"What Not to Say at an Airport – Statements like these not only delay the people who said them but can also inconvenience many other passengers if the checkpoint or terminal has to be evacuated:
After learning that his luggage had made a flight that he missed, a Las Vegas (LAS) passenger told the gate agent: “Imagine there was a bomb in my bag. I’m not on plane, and it would explode."
<a href="http://blog.tsa.gov/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://blog.tsa.gov/</a>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512822d3eab8ea0852000005TOM PAYNEFri, 22 Feb 2013 21:00:51 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512822d3eab8ea0852000005
FUCK UNITED AIRLINES.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51281f186bb3f7bc21000009ProftelFri, 22 Feb 2013 20:44:56 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51281f186bb3f7bc21000009
Many colleagues in Brazil do not fly over that company.
They were treated very badly.
One of them said: "if you only get it, I'll drive or ship to the U.S. ..." Kkkkkkkkkkkkk!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51281f08ecad045230000001minnow8aFri, 22 Feb 2013 20:44:40 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51281f08ecad045230000001
You have my sympathies. I've started two airlines and in each case, we would start off with great intimate levels of service but maintaining it as we grew was incredibly challenging. I can only imagine how difficult it must be at the scale that United operates at.
It was very poor oversight from the Captain and stewardess in the way they handled your situation. Had they thought broadly on how this would impact the company, and cared on the reputation of their organization, they probably wouldn't have made such a hasty decision. In particular given modern day social platforms.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128190369bedd4d6c00000arupert liesFri, 22 Feb 2013 20:18:59 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128190369bedd4d6c00000a
exactly. I would add moron to idiot. this person is so clueless he has no business reporting on flying... if anything.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512816146bb3f7d90b000017BlackboxFri, 22 Feb 2013 20:06:28 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512816146bb3f7d90b000017
Can I use the word ...boogie man? You retarded commie, is that OK?!!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51281611ecad049c1800000fcrusader70Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:06:25 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51281611ecad049c1800000f
Fearful America.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128159eeab8eaa039000022Cry BabyFri, 22 Feb 2013 20:04:30 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128159eeab8eaa039000022
Read the terms of your ticket. They don't have to do jack. You violated the airlines policy. No photography. Captain is in charge.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512812c0eab8eadd3100000ctheTruthFri, 22 Feb 2013 19:52:16 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512812c0eab8eadd3100000c
Loyalty to service providers (i.e., all companies) is for suckers. We live in a free agent world. All companies are free agents to us, just like we are to them. Exhibiting loyalty to a company provides ZERO benefits to you (freq flyer miles excluded). United should be working their a$$e$ off trying to give you free tickets and upgrades. The FA should be fired. The pilot should be fired. United should get skewered in the press for this.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512812b969beddb960000007Kathy dFri, 22 Feb 2013 19:52:09 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512812b969beddb960000007
United since the merger became one of the worst airlines on this planet. They think customers are over entitled and their enemy. I am a former 1k that has moved myv100k a year business else where. Only way this airline change is bankruptcy.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51280cc56bb3f7347b00000aBrian WrightFri, 22 Feb 2013 19:26:45 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51280cc56bb3f7347b00000a
Lessons: Take photos covertly; and especially wait until well into the flight when possible.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512806926bb3f71b6e000009Dean JohnsonFri, 22 Feb 2013 19:00:18 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512806926bb3f71b6e000009
What is God's name is wrong with this country? Security, yes! Stupidity, no!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512805016bb3f7ec6d000006AlanFri, 22 Feb 2013 18:53:37 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/512805016bb3f7ec6d000006
Yeah, fooling around with words like terrorist, bomb, hijack, etc. is really pretty dumb. I was at the post office with a friend and they ask all the stupid stuff about what's in the package you are sending and he thought he'd be cute and said "a bomb" and we almost got arrested. This doofus blogger is just as dumb. Just shut up and put the phone away and you'd have been in Turkey already.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51280437eab8eae21500000asally885Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:50:15 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51280437eab8eae21500000a
Are we in the 60's? Flight Attendants.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128024d6bb3f76d65000009s4ipFri, 22 Feb 2013 18:42:05 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128024d6bb3f76d65000009
i prefer the rhyming slang of "Septic Tank", it fits like a finger in the a rsehttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128015deab8ea490b000008lookleftFri, 22 Feb 2013 18:38:05 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128015deab8ea490b000008
didn't need to go the the trouble of bating the lowly flight crew just to get a completely unreasonable response. They are trained to do it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128014e6bb3f72e65000051RussFri, 22 Feb 2013 18:37:50 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5128014e6bb3f72e65000051
I have experienced particularly nasty FA's on United domestic flights. One time I had a non-working headset jack in business class on an international flight, but I didn't bring it up due to my fear of the rude domestic flight FA's. Normally the international UA attendants are awesome though.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127fe156bb3f7f85e000017End of StoryFri, 22 Feb 2013 18:24:05 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127fe156bb3f7f85e000017
"He was not thrown off the plane for taking a picture (you can't be), "
Yes, you can. He broke a policy about taking pictures of equipment and the captain ,who has carte blanche to kick anyone off the plane he wants to per the FAA, wanted him off. when you are told you are violating a policy on the plane, you shut up, you don't argue or try to explain why you are breaking a rule. This guy is a dunce.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127fdd26bb3f72c63000001Gil MarchaneFri, 22 Feb 2013 18:22:58 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127fdd26bb3f72c63000001
What's really ridiculous about the story is the loyalty that you express for United. The reality is that you are not a person, not a valued customer. You are a seat occupying lesion. You get hypnotized by the upgrades, believe that there is some sort of respectful relationship and waste your life writing about it.
It's that one moment when you do something innocuous but odd that the true specter of corporate hatred and loathing for you and every other customer suddenly erupts from the depths of airline hell that it all becomes clear.
My advice: get over yourself. Everyone lies. Yours is a life being wasted. United could not care less about you and the same is true for every other airline.
Find something worthwhile to do. You still have time to make a difference, even if it is just writing about things that actually matter.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127fce869bedd212800001eGil MarchanFri, 22 Feb 2013 18:19:04 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127fce869bedd212800001e
What's really ridiculous about the story is the loyalty that you express for United. The reality is that you are not a person, not a valued customer. You are a seat occupying lesion. You get hynotized by tje upgrades, believe that there is some sort of respectful relationship and waste your life writing about it.
It's that one moment when you do something inoccuous but odd that the true specter of corporate hatred and loathing erupts from the depths of airline hell that it all becomes clear.
My advice: get over yourself. Yours is a life being wasted. United could not care less avout you and the same is true for every other airline.
Find something worthwhile to do. You still have time to make a difference, even if it is just writing about things that actually matter.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127fccb69bedd342800000avafer2kFri, 22 Feb 2013 18:18:35 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127fccb69bedd342800000a
it's unfortunately, but on a plane, you cannot joke about the word "bomb" or "terrorist" or similar. I read your verbatim a couple of times, and saying "I'm not a terrorist" or whatever in your explanation, (why you felt a need to explain?) was unintentional trolling for it. sorry mate, that's just the way I read it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127fc8deab8ea917f00000dDoucheFri, 22 Feb 2013 18:17:33 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127fc8deab8ea917f00000d
He's another douchebag Eurotrash who thought breaking the rules were cool. No pictures means just that. He's a fcvkface.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127fa49eab8ea277d000002Al KFri, 22 Feb 2013 18:07:53 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127fa49eab8ea277d000002
Simple solution. Get an inexpensive pen camera. Take all the pictures on board that you want. Take pictures of other passengers, of the flight deck door, of the escape doors and windows, heck, take pictures of the toilets too. They won't even know you are taking them! Then post them all over the internet. As far as I know, this is not a crime - it's just against United's rules. Who the hell are they? I'll bet they have on-board video cameras capturing the movements of the passengers. Technology cuts both ways.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127fa3369bedd162200000bKMPFri, 22 Feb 2013 18:07:31 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127fa3369bedd162200000b
The idea that the word 'terrorist' should incite such a response is truly a victory for terrorist and a complete failure of the 'War on Terror'. Air travel has become so suffocating. Since 2001, I've minimized flying the US airspace. In the accounting of the story--giving the author the benefit of the doubt--I completely agree with every point. If it were me in Mr. Klint's, I would not accept a directly apology. I would insist on a public apology directed to all UA customers for a miserable and shameless behavior. Any action of an employee, in performing their duty, is by proxy, action of the company.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f9da6bb3f7695a000009depressionFri, 22 Feb 2013 18:06:02 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f9da6bb3f7695a000009
Passenger was an idiot for using the word terrorist after that of course they will say whatever they need to in order to get him off of the plane ,lies or not .http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f9da69bedd761f000018larspetersonnycFri, 22 Feb 2013 18:06:02 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f9da69bedd761f000018
I'm a Delta customer and when I don't fly Delta I fly JetBlue or Virgin. Frankly, I think United has a LONG way to go before they're on the same level as Delta, EX: WiFi!
With that said, when I first saw this headline and read your story I had sympathy for you but you said the magic word that gets most people thrown off airplanes: Terrorist. And to say it to a United crew, an airline that had two planes involved in 9/11?
The captain was right to throw you off the plane. According to you -- and I believe you -- she lied but put yourself in the captain's position: Is the captain going to believe some passenger with an iPhone or his FA who he needs to ensure passenger safety?
Sounds like it was a hassle but next time don't say TERRORIST!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f9b16bb3f77a5a000003Tom FioreFri, 22 Feb 2013 18:05:21 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f9b16bb3f77a5a000003
It's interesting that they would do this kind of thing to someone who flies so much with them. As someone who flies some, but nowhere near 100K a year, I have seen the perks for flying with then decline to the point where it almost makes sense to avoid them. Last year they changed the way 25K fliers are treated so that the experience is less comfortable than a Southwest flight with no priority. That mergers have left us with fewer and fewer choices is probably the reason why customer service has been left by the wayside. I guess we should just be grateful that they allow us the privilege of purchasing their service.
If I were this guy I would probably see if another carrier would cover the areas they need and talk to that airline about getting bumped into the priority status based on how much I was likely to fly with them.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f94e6bb3f78c59000005AriesrisingFri, 22 Feb 2013 18:03:42 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f94e6bb3f78c59000005
I gave up the unfriendly skies of United years ago for the same reason you cite. It is interesting that passengers are still complaining of rude behavior decades later. Using the word terrorist was a mistake and may have put off the captain. I have been a loyal American Airlines customer for over twenty years and their stewardesses are great.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f90d69beddfe1e00000eMPFri, 22 Feb 2013 18:02:37 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f90d69beddfe1e00000e
Well they can take me off the list aswell. These airlines thinks we need them more than they need us... You have to pay for everything now... extra luggage, extra peanuts, water, what else next, pay per pee?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f8cc69beddc524000002United SucksFri, 22 Feb 2013 18:01:32 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f8cc69beddc524000002
The ironic thing about the "T" word is that an actual terrorist would never use it (as in "Look at me! I'm a terrorist!"), so it's not really something to be afraid of.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f8c0eab8ea077a000008GregFri, 22 Feb 2013 18:01:20 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f8c0eab8ea077a000008
Well aren't you a good little sheep. Wrong too.
Unless this condition was communicated when he bought his ticket, it is just that, a policy and throwing him off was a violation of their contract. He was not thrown off the plane for taking a picture (you can't be), he was thrown off the plane for disobeying a flight attendants instructions, which if it were true would be legit. However, she lied, so it wasn't (by his account but backed up by several witnesses).
I think the author is being pathetically soft actually. I'd demand compensation and my "loyalty" would be toast. he blames the FA. I blame the FA. THEN I blame the (probably underpaid) captain for how he failed to deal with the situation. then I'd blame the airline for failing to react properly when I reported the incident, complete with numerous witness accounts.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f849ecad04c864000003djeremiasFri, 22 Feb 2013 17:59:21 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f849ecad04c864000003
I want to hear UA's side.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f782ecad04b962000016retireabroadFri, 22 Feb 2013 17:56:02 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f782ecad04b962000016
It is sad that there is so much consolidation going on in the industry. How a company can treat customers like garbage is beyond me. Sometimes it feels like dealing with utility companies.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f603ecad04b862000005rpFri, 22 Feb 2013 17:49:39 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f603ecad04b862000005
Agree -- terrorism had nothing to do with the policy he broke.
This would be simillar to a police officer pulling me turning right at a red light in NYC which is not allowed then me responding "Sorry I was unaware that turning red on right is not allowed in NYC. I assure you I am not a murderer or a drug dealer; it was a simple mistake"
And then wondering what is happenning when he asks me to get out of my car.
Following up with giving her a business card is a bit strange and probably put her on red alert. Maybe she mistakenly thought that he had taken more photos. I've also never flown first class, so I'm not sure if calling her over to hang up a jacket is normal?
That said, it seems like the pilot should've been able to resolve the issue by clearing up the confusion and allowing him to stay. I agree that is a fault of the airline industry -- to give a person who doesn't care about customer service the authority to deal with them in a way that would severly inconvenience them.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f58aecad048262000003Kahuna HawaiiFri, 22 Feb 2013 17:47:38 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f58aecad048262000003
I hate United and stopped flying them many years ago because of the stewardesses attitudes.. they bought out the airline and since then I dont think they hired any young good looking girls. I have a friend who is a pilot so I have no grudge against the airline other than the stews are rude.. can not wait to get off their feet and gossip in the galley and if you god forbid open the curtain it is like the Wizard of Oz.. I understand that this one when ape and used the passengers own words.. you can not say terrorist or bomb or gun or you fat bitch on a plane. I think American, Delta, Continental all suck because of the nickel and dollar bag fees, no bar in the planes on long flights, arrogant crews, bad food, no free beer. I am lucky now that where I live I only fly Japan Air or KAL, Singapore Air where you get great service... the cabin crew is attractive even beautiful, sincerely polite and YOUNG.. I get free beer, sake, good food, snacks..and this is in coach.. you can actually hit the call button and not get that bitch in the Geico commercials glaring at you.. it is worth a little extra cost to fly a good airline and not to be treated like cattle by cows.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f579eab8ea336f00000eCry BabyFri, 22 Feb 2013 17:47:21 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f579eab8ea336f00000e
What didn't you understand? NO pictures means NO pictures. It doesn't matter if you put your phone away. NO pictures means no pictures and they can throw you off the flight just for taking ONE. The flight crew didn't like the looks of you and that was enough. You were being a wise ass ("terrorist" comment didn't help)
It doesn't matter if the flight attendant was lying. Get off. The captain makes the decisions right or wrong. He does have time to deal with your stupid shit. Get off.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f1fa69bedd0311000003Jack DanielsFri, 22 Feb 2013 17:32:26 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5127f1fa69bedd0311000003
tldr, but I must say youre a moron for using the word terrorist on board an airplane