Bojan of Barça has ATT 80, SA 80, ST 82 since the last year, when he was still 18. Yes, he plays for Barça not Santos, but he didn't score or show a performance as Neymar did. About agility,it is a natural feature of the body not a skill that improves with experience. At the opposite, youngsters usually are more agile than the elder. Some players keep it as the same level but improves in other aspects such as DA & TEC. So they can use their agility more effeciently,and therfore can be considered more agile than before, like the case of Messi.

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Oswaldo wrote:Bojan of Barça has ATT 80, SA 80, ST 82 since the last year, when he was still 18. Yes, he plays for Barça not Santos, but he didn't score or show a performance as Neymar did. About agility,it is a natural feature of the body not a skill that improves with experience. At the opposite, youngsters usually are more agile than the elder. Some players keep it as the same level but improves in other aspects such as DA & TEC. So they can use their agility more effeciently,and therfore can be considered more agile than before, like the case of Messi.

yes, Bojan plays in Lal Liga and in Barça, do u think that Neymar would prove as much as he did in brasil if he was in spain ? hell no ? he'd keep a ratio of 1 (1 game 1 goal) ? fuck no ? but i'd imagine Bojan in brasil, he'll do a great season, besides dnt forget, in Barça he has big calibre players ahead of him, but whenever he plays, he plays well, and usually scores

well i made him comparing with Robinho. but u suggested it based on what? do u suggested it just to be fit? how many neymar games have u watched? because if u watch any neymar game, or even his best moments, SA 78 is a joke, if he deserve 78, nobody here in brazil deserve more than 80. because he is one of the best player in brazil in 1-on-1 against the keeper, and he is this great because he can place his shots where the keeper couldn't caught.

imo is better to wait a little bit before any decrease in this stats, this year im sure he'll be on NT, and we'll be able to see him in a international level

but i insist about one thing, dont be conservative with a player just because he is 18 or 19. Pato have the same set he have now since he was here in brazil, and neymar shocked us more than pato schoked in 2007.

about goal scoring, Neymar scored 28 goals in 30 games (0,93 goal per game) and Robinho have done 11 goals in 17 games (0,64 goal per game). what do u have to say about it? is robinho overrated too? i dont think. and this statistics isn't from wikipedia, is from Santos official web site

Particulary I'm not rating him based on his age. I think he just didn't impressed anyone in these abilities. I saw some of his matches and the main reason of all his goals is his speed, agility and dribbling skill. Even in that video we can notice he mainly scores inside the box, alone (after clear the defensors and gk sometimes), and with a great angle. In PES in these situation even with 75 in SA he would score.

I would go with:

ATT: 79SA: 78ST: 80

It's his first year in great form. Problaby he will upgrade his skills until the end of the season.

IMO statistics we can't measure the abilities of a player. There are a serie of facts who help him to score 28 goals in 30 match, The high level of all the team in the beggining of the season is one of it.

We have to analyze the capacity of the player. Robinho proved he can score in some situation that Neymar doesn't prove or have a change to show us he can do it.

Ajacied_Breda1 wrote:It's funny to see people questioning these numbers because of his age, when he's clearly outperforming other players that are double his age or in the best years of their life.

nothing more to say. i hate people that say to be conservative with a player just because of his age. IMO neymar stats is pretty realistic. and i'll only update if we have more agrees than disagree, because until now we have only Fiddy and squall agreeing on it.

sorry but i dont think he needs a raise in passing or DA and shoting, but about stars, i would like to see what people think about Side, and i disagree with 1-touch, he dont do 1-touch passes or shots enough to warrant a star