Jeronimo wrote:Threads like this make me a very sad panda. The Christian bashing gets old, quickly.

Did you mean to post this on the religion thread? If it was in response to my post (which is the only one that mentioned Christians), I was bashing Republicans more than Christians. It just really pisses me off that they (Republicans) won elections by pandering to short sighted people and vowing to repeal the cap and trade system for companies polluting the air and water. They honestly want everyone to be able to pollute for free. How is that not fucked up?

This thread really has nothing to do with Christianity.

It would have been better suited there yes, but I put it here because that was two threads in one day that spoke negatively of Christians (and you clearly mentioned Christianity). Now that I've taken a second look at your post though I probably wouldn't have posted it again. I get frustrated with the typecasting though. It's not necessarily the person that makes the typecasting comment's fault though, a lot of so called "Christians" behave poorly in their lifestyles. This isn't the first time I've heard the connection spoken between Republican's/Christians and a general lack of concern for the planet and there really should not be any connection there. There is nothing in the Bible about treating Creation poorly, in fact it's quite the opposite. Frequently through out the entire Bible we're told to be good stewards and that obviously applies to the places we live. It's so contradictory to say "destroying the planet is not our problem", YES IT IS. Polluting is like spitting in God's eye. In fact, logically it should be the non-Christian who does not care for the planet. After all, if it's all here by accident it's not my responsibility to take care of things. Right? Anyway, I don't want to drag this thread down the religious road either. Consider this more a vent on fucktards who call themselves followers of Christ that demonstrate hypocritical bullshit by showing no respect for what they believe he created in the first place.

I think a lot of people are just meant to be followers...It is much simpler than being an individual or a leader. Perhaps it's an intelligence thing, I just don't know. Many of these people see the world as very black and white, and more or less will vote and live the way their religious leaders direct them to. Somehow the Republican party has a lock on this subclass of people. Perhaps it's social issues like being anti-abortion, anti-gay, pro-prayer in schools...But these are totally peripheral issues that the Repubs get voted in on, but make up very little in terms of their policies or motivations. It is these simple polarizing issues that many of these followers get caught up in. All this time, the Democrats seem to have more principles that represent what I would understand are many of the teachings of Christ...Better distribution of wealth, public health care, assistance for the poor and disenfranchised, a graduated tax bracket taking a higher percentage from the wealthy...These seem more in line with the real meat and potatoes of what I understand from my Christian education of what Jesus was about. However, somehow the Repubs can give face to the hot button issues and get the overwhelming majority of the Christian vote. It's hard for me to see this in any other way than as Christians being used as pawns. I see the overwhelming underlying theme with the Republicans (especially this new generation of "tea partiers") as the idea that if you gain wealth, then you have earned the right to a better worldly existence at the expense of those who have not gained wealth. The are producing policies that are widening the gap between the rich and the poor, and that is a fact. This seems very un-Jesus, but the majority of those who claim to be followers of Christ are supporting this agenda and these ideals. I don't think that anyone could argue that Jesus would have been anything less than a socialist...He would not have accepted wealth while those around him were hungry.

discspeed wrote:All this time, the Democrats seem to have more principles that represent what I would understand are many of the teachings of Christ...Better distribution of wealth, public health care, assistance for the poor and disenfranchised, a graduated tax bracket taking a higher percentage from the wealthy...These seem more in line with the real meat and potatoes of what I understand from my Christian education of what Jesus was about. I don't think that anyone could argue that Jesus would have been anything less than a socialist...He would not have accepted wealth while those around him were hungry.

Yep, all that stuff- caring for your neighbor, basicly, is pretty much all Chirstian. All good stuff. But the gov. shouldn't make the individual do it. Not sure Jesus would approve people doing the stuff he teaches because they are made to.

discspeed wrote:the Democrats seem to have more principles that represent what I would understand are many of the teachings of Christ...Better distribution of wealth, public health care, assistance for the poor and disenfranchised, a graduated tax bracket taking a higher percentage from the wealthy...

Neither the Dems or the Republicans have done a good job of any of these things. Bad example.

eli wrote:Even though I was raised in a christian household I pretty much agree with doing something about overpopulation. I think people should have to get licensed to have kids. Were definitely losing the war. Dumb people are breeding faster than we are. We need to figure out a way to "fix" people at birth or at puberty. Or ship all these worthless non working government assisted rejects to some deserted island. Kind of like Australia...

Ah, a Eugenicist. Tell me friend, how is life during 1880-1940s? Would you like to go measure some skulls and brain cases later?

Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.

Jeronimo wrote:Threads like this make me a very sad panda. The Christian bashing gets old, quickly.

Did you mean to post this on the religion thread? If it was in response to my post (which is the only one that mentioned Christians), I was bashing Republicans more than Christians. It just really pisses me off that they (Republicans) won elections by pandering to short sighted people and vowing to repeal the cap and trade system for companies polluting the air and water. They honestly want everyone to be able to pollute for free. How is that not fucked up?

This thread really has nothing to do with Christianity.

It would have been better suited there yes, but I put it here because that was two threads in one day that spoke negatively of Christians (and you clearly mentioned Christianity). Now that I've taken a second look at your post though I probably wouldn't have posted it again. I get frustrated with the typecasting though. It's not necessarily the person that makes the typecasting comment's fault though, a lot of so called "Christians" behave poorly in their lifestyles. This isn't the first time I've heard the connection spoken between Republican's/Christians and a general lack of concern for the planet and there really should not be any connection there. There is nothing in the Bible about treating Creation poorly, in fact it's quite the opposite. Frequently through out the entire Bible we're told to be good stewards and that obviously applies to the places we live. It's so contradictory to say "destroying the planet is not our problem", YES IT IS. Polluting is like spitting in God's eye. In fact, logically it should be the non-Christian who does not care for the planet. After all, if it's all here by accident it's not my responsibility to take care of things. Right? Anyway, I don't want to drag this thread down the religious road either. Consider this more a vent on fucktards who call themselves followers of Christ that demonstrate hypocritical bullshit by showing no respect for what they believe he created in the first place.

I think a lot of people are just meant to be followers...It is much simpler than being an individual or a leader. Perhaps it's an intelligence thing, I just don't know. Many of these people see the world as very black and white, and more or less will vote and live the way their religious leaders direct them to. Somehow the Republican party has a lock on this subclass of people. Perhaps it's social issues like being anti-abortion, anti-gay, pro-prayer in schools...But these are totally peripheral issues that the Repubs get voted in on, but make up very little in terms of their policies or motivations. It is these simple polarizing issues that many of these followers get caught up in. All this time, the Democrats seem to have more principles that represent what I would understand are many of the teachings of Christ...Better distribution of wealth, public health care, assistance for the poor and disenfranchised, a graduated tax bracket taking a higher percentage from the wealthy...These seem more in line with the real meat and potatoes of what I understand from my Christian education of what Jesus was about. However, somehow the Repubs can give face to the hot button issues and get the overwhelming majority of the Christian vote. It's hard for me to see this in any other way than as Christians being used as pawns. I see the overwhelming underlying theme with the Republicans (especially this new generation of "tea partiers") as the idea that if you gain wealth, then you have earned the right to a better worldly existence at the expense of those who have not gained wealth. The are producing policies that are widening the gap between the rich and the poor, and that is a fact. This seems very un-Jesus, but the majority of those who claim to be followers of Christ are supporting this agenda and these ideals. I don't think that anyone could argue that Jesus would have been anything less than a socialist...He would not have accepted wealth while those around him were hungry.

If i remember my high school psychology right seeing things only in black or white is how people are born. That is because the brains aren't developed enough until the age of three to be able to learn better. For reference adult gorillas are on the level of four year old humans. What does that tell of those humans that have grown up physically but still are dumber than a gorilla? I would say do not procreate with them. Or you're in for a ride because honestly such a person does not possess the faculties to treat you right. Your misery if you get involved with such a person. You decide. Unfortunately these people abound and they are perfectly capable of reproducing in droves among each other. Like it was mentioned before these people do their best to tip the balance of in danger of learning from their parents silly persons (Monty Python reference) vs intelligent parents possibly raising a few intelligent kids unless the kids want to be stupid. Most do want to underachieve.

It's this simple: A rational person won't breed like rabbits and an irrational person can't help doing what nature offers as a possibility. Sperm does fertilize eggs and who doesn't like to make it happen? Somehow bonking licenses don't seem enforceable...

Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.

sunspot wrote:I don't like politicians trying to "pimp" (lack of better words) Christianity by quoting some Bible verse that's out of context and saying that's part of the "their" movement.

There may be some issues that I think are biblical that Christians should be concerned about ,but I'm not going to high five Glenn Beck and say "Atta boy."

A priest told me this: If you pick out the parts you like to from the bible and combine them to suit yourself you can say anything because there are so many words in there. So the bible picked and mixed could say Go and hang yourself but do it quick and be happy.

Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.