I actually sold chrysler their mechanism to remote start and lock their autos.

I'll tell you this, each session has a timeout and very unique identifier that is very hard to intercept and replay since there are two token types and you most likely wont be able to get both and replay them both. This doesnt worry me at all. GM's is homegrown and doesnt use nearly as accepted of a security standard.

I actually just sold VW and Audi the same thing as Chrysler, BMW and Toyota.

Nothing has ever been safe. If someone is motivated enough, and you have something they want, it's theirs. No security system is foolproof. Thieves are incredibly brazen. At our local mall a few years ago they were just yanking cars onto a flatbed car carrier and driving away. People didn't even notice, thinking they were breakdowns being towed for service. Code stealing electronics have been around for years. That's why we have insurance. The criminal element is growing larger and more sophisticated all the time. Hell, there are nutcases out there stealing PEOPLE right off the streets! Dumbass crooks look for easy opportunities, unlocked doors, keys left in plane sight, smash and grab. Pros just take what they want.

100% right.

But, the problem would likely be cured by summary execution of thieves.

Fine. Execution upon conviction & appellate process. We allow too many criminals to get away with way too much. Our society is weak and getting weaker. The degree to which we need theft protection is insane. I really loved the comment by someone along the lines of "that's why we have insurance". Gee, I wonder why our rates are so high. Eliminate the criminals and watch crime & costs both drop.

I said, "that's why we have insurance", and I bet you have it too. I'm not disagreeing with you at all, and I literally meant what I said about due process. I've had some interesting conversations with people involved in our criminal justice system. They will be the first to admit it's becoming a revolving door for criminals. WTF are we going to do? I have a concealed carry permit. I haven't used my weapon, but I feel safer with it. We could go back to the wild west. Lots of blood in the streets, especially with the armaments floating around out there. I don't have any answers, but if we don't look at history, we are doomed to repeat our mistakes. All great civilizations of the past eventually fizzled and died. Some day in the future someone will write a book about the rise and fall of this empire. You said it, our society is weak and getting weaker. Most great civilizations of the past succumbed to internal decay. Look at our infrastructure, see any decay? I could go on and on. See what you got me started with here? My apologies. My only answer is to work hard, be honest, take care of those I love, and try to enjoy what we have left of this great country. One thing I did recently towards that end was buy myself a brand new Jeep.
Now back to our regularly scheduled program.

I actually sold chrysler their mechanism to remote start and lock their autos.

I'll tell you this, each session has a timeout and very unique identifier that is very hard to intercept and replay since there are two token types and you most likely wont be able to get both and replay them both. This doesnt worry me at all. GM's is homegrown and doesnt use nearly as accepted of a security standard.

I actually just sold VW and Audi the same thing as Chrysler, BMW and Toyota.

Rockraines, nice sell Congrats. Any idea why the AC shuts down when you open driver door after a remote start? Chrysler does not seem to know? We have another thread started on this, you can reply there that way im not hijacking this thread

Rockraines, nice sell Congrats. Any idea why the AC shuts down when you open driver door after a remote start? Chrysler does not seem to know? We have another thread started on this, you can reply there that way im not hijacking this thread