How exactly will mocking vegetarians and vegans keep bureaucrats in governments desperate for revenue from instituting taxes on fats or meats based on bad science? Sorry, but I have a hard time believing these taxes are all the work of a secret vegan cabal that's trying to infiltrate paleohacks for nefarious purposes.

Denigrating is bad, but we also should be aware that there are people who are actively working against our interests. For example, fat tax was approved in Denmark and Hungary, and Czechs are planning to do the same. Raising taxes on foods like heavy cream, butter, etc. Are you sure someone will not want to do the same with meat in the future?

I certainly do not advocate denigrating someone, but the need to do so might be related to protecting our interests. For example, the "fat tax" was approved in Denmark and Hungary already, and Czechs are planing to do the same...heavy taxing foods like butter or heavy cream. I don't know if vegans are behind this particular activity, but they certainly have their own agenda - making the animal food to cost you more to the point it would not be a feasible business anymore, and getting state subsidiary for vegan-approved foods. (So they are not all that benign, unfortunately.)

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Is paleo a religion? It's supposed to be science and the goal of science is to find the truth by asking questions. It's anti-science when people stop asking questions and assume the topic has been settled.

So, if there are vegan trolls on this site, they are doing you a favor by asking the hard questions.

Thanks for reminding me of something else I could have added to the Official Paleo Complaints Thread. I will never understand the pathological need of some to constantly denigrate vegans and vegetarians. I realize it's a popular pastime of one of the paleo "superstars", but just because one person acts like an ass doesn't mean everyone else has to jump off the same cliff.

Denigrating is bad, but we also should be aware that there are people who are actively working against our interests. For example, fat tax was approved in Denmark and Hungary, and Czechs are planning to do the same. Raising taxes on foods like heavy cream, butter, etc. Are you sure someone will not want to do the same with meat in the future?

I certainly do not advocate denigrating someone, but the need to do so might be related to protecting our interests. For example, the "fat tax" was approved in Denmark and Hungary already, and Czechs are planing to do the same...heavy taxing foods like butter or heavy cream. I don't know if vegans are behind this particular activity, but they certainly have their own agenda - making the animal food to cost you more to the point it would not be a feasible business anymore, and getting state subsidiary for vegan-approved foods. (So they are not all that benign, unfortunately.)

How exactly will mocking vegetarians and vegans keep bureaucrats in governments desperate for revenue from instituting taxes on fats or meats based on bad science? Sorry, but I have a hard time believing these taxes are all the work of a secret vegan cabal that's trying to infiltrate paleohacks for nefarious purposes.

I don't have any paleo beliefs... I have some knowledge about the paleolithic I use to guide my dietary choices, but I am very welcoming of skepticism. If you are looking for something to believe in, you are better off with a real philosophy or religion than putting your faith in a diet.

2) One of them occasionally posts on this site. With some effort, you can definitely tell who it is by how different their views are from everyone else. (Not Aravind, he's a vegetarian, not yet a vegan...like Britney Spears sort of?)

3) I find the "you have to eat lots of meat to be healthy" crowd as inscrutable as the vegan crowd. At least some vegans know that their diets aren't optimal.

While it's not nice and not permissible to troll this site, what the detractors say cannot trip me up or impact how I eat and live. I've been a vegan. I was very, very strict on the vegan diet. Now I eat this way. They can't troll me into stopping our doubting what I'm doing.