Cypherdoc is an admitted paid shill of HashFast.The people who listened to him in the HasFast thread lost serious coin.The people who listen to him now should stop immediately and seek institutionalization.A safe, controlled setting where they will no longer be a danger to themselves or society, to be studied by dedicated psychiatric professionals. Perhaps even partially cured with the aid of powerful modern psychotropics and/or daring and innovative surgical procedures.

and more ppl who listened to me since 2011 to buy Bitcoin have made serious money.

i've already said many times the HF endorsement was a bad one. it was for Batch #1 only and i've not been involved for over 10 mo now. none of their poor decisions involved me and i had no control over their internal actions. nice try on attempting to make it seem like it's all my fault while tying that debacle to Bitcoin.

but given your lack of intellectual arguments about why ppl should avoid Bitcoin, you're not really interested in the truth, are you?

Re. your shilling for HasFast: You did it. At best, your judgement was atrocious. More likely, it was a cynical mercenary act.Those who listened to you lost money.Those who listened to me didn't.

Those who still listen to your pap are imbeciles. I'm being blunt because I have no illusions about helping them or making them see clearly. Lost cause.

lol, still insisting on bringing up old news. and what's this about listening to you? links, please.

you can keep trying to tie that incident to the future of Bitcoin but realize how stupid it makes you look.

No, you don't want a well-reasoned answer. A person that genuinely wanted a response to those points would have started by reading the 100+ responses that that comment got when it was posted on Reddit 8 hours ago. If none of the 100+ responses on Reddit really answered things for you, and you then wanted to get the opinion of some of the thoughtful minds in this thread, you'd have made it clear that those weren't your words (by citing the source) and you would have explained how the various nuanced arguments already posted on Reddit were not "well reasoned" in your opinion. If you had done this, I'm sure you would have received thoughtful responses in return.

Instead you spammed that obviously-plagiarized comment here and on the Wall Observer thread, without giving any contextual information, making it clear that you're not interested in genuinely learning.

...because I was considering spending 10-20 valuable minutes answering your questions point by point (even though it's been done ad nauseam over the years, in this thread and others). Thank you, Peter R, for pointing out the cross post.

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...he/they cut/paste posting the same shit on r/bitcoin so I'm calling troll on this guy (or team?)

seems like last time they used the cult meme talking point ... this time around it is "bitcoin has no perceptible benefits" and "early adopters are MLM (multi-level marketing)"

Who are these hired guns working for?

The Gubirmint?Teh Banksters?Our Beneficent Reptilian Overlords(long may They reign!)??

I know right. It makes sense in alts maybe, but here it's just nuts and makes them look defensive and weird

if anyone doubts there was a troll posting on Reddit this morning, take a look at the guys profile. he'd only had an account for less than an hour and he put up a post that made no sense to the vast majority of reasonable ppl in that thread. when challenged, he disappeared:

Thanks for posting this, fascinating stuff. I worked as a commissioning engineer at a large L3 data center awhile back. The complexity was staggering. Battery banks, generators, switchgear, evap towers, AHUs, etc. You could almost knock half the building out with a bomb and the other half would hum along without skipping a beat. Between two and three sources at each bus, all trickling down to the data center rooms themselves. Just testing all the systems took months. Hundreds of millions of dollars from start to finish.

But look at what these Chinese guys are doing. Open air ventilation, cheap rack mounting, etc. Budget, budget, budget. It works. There's no way to compete with this in "developed countries" (lol) where you can't put up a tool shed without a building permit and environmental impact study.

On another note, it turns out that the problems data centers and miners encounter are exactly the same for large-scale indoor cannabis growers, except for tighter environmental controls in each rooms. This is becoming a big business in Washington and Colorado.

...he/they cut/paste posting the same shit on r/bitcoin so I'm calling troll on this guy (or team?)

seems like last time they used the cult meme talking point ... this time around it is "bitcoin has no perceptible benefits" and "early adopters are MLM (multi-level marketing)"

Who are these hired guns working for?

The Gubirmint?Teh Banksters?Our Beneficent Reptilian Overlords(long may They reign!)??

I know right. It makes sense in alts maybe, but here it's just nuts and makes them look defensive and weird

if anyone doubts there was a troll posting on Reddit this morning, take a look at the guys profile. he'd only had an account for less than an hour and he put up a post that made no sense to the vast majority of reasonable ppl in that thread. when challenged, he disappeared:

and then we got a bunch of other FUD posts soon thereafter. now these 2 guys, show up in this thread throwing FUD around. coincidence?

Err... Yes? I'm sure there are trolls around, but who would *pay* anyone to do that?Especially taking into account that I make fun of your wacky ravings absolutely free.Won't lie, I do get a kick out of laughing at buffoons. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

...he/they cut/paste posting the same shit on r/bitcoin so I'm calling troll on this guy (or team?)

seems like last time they used the cult meme talking point ... this time around it is "bitcoin has no perceptible benefits" and "early adopters are MLM (multi-level marketing)"

Who are these hired guns working for?

The Gubirmint?Teh Banksters?Our Beneficent Reptilian Overlords(long may They reign!)??

I know right. It makes sense in alts maybe, but here it's just nuts and makes them look defensive and weird

if anyone doubts there was a troll posting on Reddit this morning, take a look at the guys profile. he'd only had an account for less than an hour and he put up a post that made no sense to the vast majority of reasonable ppl in that thread. when challenged, he disappeared:

and then we got a bunch of other FUD posts soon thereafter. now these 2 guys, show up in this thread throwing FUD around. coincidence?

Err... Yes? I'm sure there are trolls around, but who would *pay* anyone to do that?Especially taking into account that I make fun of your wacky ravings absolutely free.Won't lie, I do get a kick out of laughing at buffoons. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

you seem to suffer from a serious lack of information and intuition. plus, simple googling skills would bring up pages of references like this:

Err... Yes? I'm sure there are trolls around, but who would *pay* anyone to do that?Especially taking into account that I make fun of your wacky ravings absolutely free.Won't lie, I do get a kick out of laughing at buffoons. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Err... Yes? I'm sure there are trolls around, but who would *pay* anyone to do that?Especially taking into account that I make fun of your wacky ravings absolutely free.Won't lie, I do get a kick out of laughing at buffoons. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

You think I'm a five eyes spy or something lol. Dude: nobody reads this shit.

actually, i don't know and i don't care.

what i do care about are things like the fact you haven't answered Peter R's post to you. plus the fact that you haven't introduced one single economic or technical argument of your own as to why Bitcoin can't or won't work.

...he/they cut/paste posting the same shit on r/bitcoin so I'm calling troll on this guy (or team?)

seems like last time they used the cult meme talking point ... this time around it is "bitcoin has no perceptible benefits" and "early adopters are MLM (multi-level marketing)"

Who are these hired guns working for?

The Gubirmint?Teh Banksters?Our Beneficent Reptilian Overlords(long may They reign!)??

I know right. It makes sense in alts maybe, but here it's just nuts and makes them look defensive and weird

if anyone doubts there was a troll posting on Reddit this morning, take a look at the guys profile. he'd only had an account for less than an hour and he put up a post that made no sense to the vast majority of reasonable ppl in that thread. when challenged, he disappeared:

and then we got a bunch of other FUD posts soon thereafter. now these 2 guys, show up in this thread throwing FUD around. coincidence?

Err... Yes? I'm sure there are trolls around, but who would *pay* anyone to do that?Especially taking into account that I make fun of your wacky ravings absolutely free.Won't lie, I do get a kick out of laughing at buffoons. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

you seem to suffer from a serious lack of information and intuition. plus, simple googling skills would bring up pages of references like this:

Sure, government agents exist, and likely infiltrate forums when need be.No, d00d going by cypherdoc, the people laughing at you aren't them. Probably bored middle school kids who couldn't believe their luck for finding such a humorless-yet-lulzy loon in their intertubes!

Forgive my petulance and oft-times, I fear, ill-founded criticisms, and forgive me that I have, by this time, made your eyes and head ache with my long letter. But I cannot forgo hastily the pleasure and pride of thus conversing with you.

Ideas are ideas. They don't have to be original. In fact they never are. I'm saying that the consumer has no insentive to use bitcoin. That's all. It's a fascinating tool that got caught up in a speculative bubble. The dollar doesn't crash on a daily basis

consumer have no incentives to use gold. yet it has a 5-6 trillion market cap

"I believe this will be the ultimate fate of Bitcoin, to be the "high-powered money" that serves as a reserve currency for banks that issue their own digital cash." Hal Finney, Dec. 2010

Ideas are ideas. They don't have to be original. In fact they never are. I'm saying that the consumer has no insentive to use bitcoin. That's all. It's a fascinating tool that got caught up in a speculative bubble. The dollar doesn't crash on a daily basis

consumer have no incentives to use gold. yet it has a 5-6 trillion market cap

Gold bubble

Forgive my petulance and oft-times, I fear, ill-founded criticisms, and forgive me that I have, by this time, made your eyes and head ache with my long letter. But I cannot forgo hastily the pleasure and pride of thus conversing with you.