ERV should, of course, express herself as she wishes, but there is still latent bias against women in most industries, so she does us a disservice. We have to live up to the same standards as men. How often do we hear that kind of language from our generally larger, hairier colleagues?

I suspect most of you live in a community where some fool has written to the local paper, telling everyone to go see Expelled. That is the case for my local paper, and their website also has a place for comments, as well as a forum where readers can introduce questions for discussion. If that is the case where you live, you need to sign in there and post a message about the movie, linking the ExpelledExposed website.

And if you link it to the actual word "expelled", like this

<a href="http://expelledexposed.com/"><i>Expelled</i></a>

it will help the ExpelledExposed website creep up the rankings so that it will be on the first page of google hits for folks who are searching "expelled".

So get busy and do your part in the culture war!

--------------Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mindHas been obligated from the beginningTo create an ordered universeAs the only possible proof of its own inheritance. - Pattiann Rogers

Not sure what you mean. Sternberg and Crocker are biologists of course, although I don't know if they had any role in the movie other than being interviewed while looking soulful and aggrieved. But IIRC Kevin Miller claimed at one point that they had a "team of cell biologists" hard at work on the animations, so there must be at least 2.

He also made that statement before Billy D screamed 'LEEEEEROOOOOY JENKINS!' and admitted they just stole the fucking thing.

Any references to 'cell biologist(s)' were a lie. OOOH LOOK! A LYING FUNDIE CHRISTIAN! Ooooh put that man in a museum-- hes rare, that Kevin.

Piece of shit.

Kent [Hovind], Ken [Ham], Kevin [Miller]…

Kennektion?

Kenspiracy?

--------------Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip?

AtBC Poet Laureate

"I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive

The following statement is from the Executive Producers of EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed.

Since we began working on this very interesting project, the producers have been the subject of any number of groundless accusations, most of which we found amusing. The vast majority of these accusations we chose to ignore given that agitation is typical with any provocative documentary. We also recognized that as the film took form, it would specifically disturb a vocal minority of academic elites, and tread on what some people involved with science and academia consider sacred ground. We therefore expected a high level of criticism against the film from this particular group, who view themselves as self appointed gatekeepers. We accepted in good humor many of the crazy insinuations that they made as part of the cost of pursuing our project.

However, the latest claim concerning the copyright status of our proprietary animation is so ridiculous, bogus and misinformed that we must respond. Premise Media invested significant time and money into the research and original creation of the animation used in our film to illustrate cellular activity. Our own team of experts created the highest quality of animation that is available. In fact, the animation we use in the theatrical release of our movie is only a small portion of the animation we have created and plan to use in future projects.

Concerning the intriguing smear campaign being carried on by long term activists on one side of the evolution controversy, we are completely confident of the validity of our copyright on our originally created animation. We can assure any opponents of free speech that the rights granted in the United States Constitution are extraordinarily strong, and most especially strong related to protecting film productions.

We look forward to ordinary Americans from a broad range of backgrounds seeing our film.

The Executive Producers of Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed.

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Following the discovery of the kinesin in the late 1980s there were investigations into the locomotion method used for propulsion giving two models with one being an “inch worm” model and the other being the “hand over hand” model. We illustrate the hand over hand mechanism in the transport of a vesicle.

A variety of papers, micrographs, illustrations and animations with depictions of the cellular transport system of kinesin were used and are freely available on the internet. We invite you to learn more about this incredible little transport engine through the following links:

That kinesin shit is bullshit to first year grad students all over the country.

We fought over that shit for a couple of weeks last fall. "Hand over hand" blah blah blah is the tip of a huge iceberg. That excuse is pure fucking shit and their little letter has done nothing but enrage XVIVO and Harvard.

I will have a post on kinesin just like I had one on actin some time soon.

Do we need to know whether or not the mountains of Rushmore were designed or not in order to reach a design inference for the faces carved into them? No. Only the difference in specified complexity between the old and new patterns need be examined.

In a nutshell, this proves the vacuity of specified complexity (again, o noews) and also simultaneously (take that schroders piano) that DaveTard is mandlebrottedly stupid.

please philosophers of science take note that this is the state of the art in cutting edge design research.

in biology some have attempted to deal with the very real problem that there are no theory-independent observations. others, like this poor poor dumb poor bastard, have spewed out observation-independent theories. what a fuckface.

--------------You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

Dembski is known to all, Jed Macosko perhaps not so. Macosko holds the PhD in chemistry from UC Berkeley, and in his portion of the introduction he recounts living in Johnson's basement for a period while in grad school. He is an ISCID fellow, and was a DI/CSC fellow between 2001 and 2003. He is currently an assistant professor (of biophysics) at Wake Forest University. Unlike most ID supporters, he seems to actually publish peer-reviewed scientific research, though none of it appears to offer a theory of intelligent design or any explicit discussion of design.

He actually has a kinesin picture on his site:

Another depiction of kinesin prepared by his students for educational purposes is this one

but I am pretty sure that this was not the basis of Premise Media's animation.

Maybe Macosko just doesn't want to loose his reputation and thus stays out of the discussion.

--------------"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

--------------I wouldn't be bothered reading about the selfish gene because it has never been identified. -- Denyse O'Leary, professional moronAgain "how much". I don't think that's a good way to be quantitative.-- gpuccio