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As discussed in other thread here, apparently it is time to start a new topic on all those things associated mostly with roads but seen on rails.
Probably not the best choice for a start but the picture is rare and not very popular, I think. The derailed "loco" (Krupp or Bussing?) belongs to unknown Eisenbahnpioniere unit, picture was taken in Russia in 1943:

"...and on the 8th day He made truck so that man, made on 7th day, had shelter when woman threw him out for the night."

thank You for posting so interesting pics of vehicles on rails. Only one comment to the pic of the derailed truck. I don´t think that it is a German truck. I assume it´s a Czechoslovakian Praga type RN with three axes.

Hi Bert, you're right! This is Praga RV (sorry, not RN) and nothing else. Thanks for that, the thing was moved immediately from "Unknown" to "Praga" folder. BTW, judging from your nick your interests aren't much differnet than mine!
Bill, sorry I forgot to tell you this earlier. Yes, I think all those strange rail vehicles of Allied origin will fit here. My point is they are weird too and deserve to find place in this thread. Also, another good reason for this could be I'm not aware of any Allied vehicle that wasn't captured and used by Germans, on rails or not.

Another pic of the strange thingie posted little above by Bill (or I think it is the same):

Could it be Krupp L2H43/143 based?

And here is a true rail classics:

Cheers!

"...and on the 8th day He made truck so that man, made on 7th day, had shelter when woman threw him out for the night."

I have found another photo of a Fross-Büssing rail lorry in a webshop. Now I am absolutely convinced that these Fross-Büssing rail lorries were based on the Fross-Büssing (MAN) F4/F5 chassis. Fross-Büssing always used own driver's cabs. And the original MAN F4 was available with different wheelbased (5.7m, 5.0m, 4.5m and 3.9m). So everything fits perfectly.

It is another question what this "Büffel" shown in the Wehrmacht tanker thread really was. There is no doubt that the engine bonnet and the driver's cab originated from a Fross-Büssing rail lorry. But the rail wheels on it were of Russian origin. I don't know if the chassis is original Fross-Büssing or also of Russian origin. I don't know if this repair/conversion(?) was made at the Fross-Büssing work in Rumania or if it was a field conversion. Many questions remain with the "Büffel".

Regards, Holger.

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Hi Holger!
Thanks for the great picture, just another confirmation those things were used coupled in pairs mostly.
I'm in doubt Russian chassis was used for the Buffel, you know Russians have in this load class single truck only, it is Yag-6 and they were few. If Russian frame, or complete chassis with engine, was used at all (hypothetically only, of course) this might have been ZiS-5 one. We have no other choice, sorry.
Cheers!

"...and on the 8th day He made truck so that man, made on 7th day, had shelter when woman threw him out for the night."