Need some opinions on how to deal with a relative. - Atheist Nexus2018-03-20T02:40:13Zhttp://atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/need-some-opinions-on-how-to?commentId=2182797%3AComment%3A1089113&feed=yes&xn_auth=nohehehe.....and side step the…tag:atheistnexus.org,2011-02-24:2182797:Comment:11352572011-02-24T05:33:17.329ZL. Olcotthttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/LOlcott
<p>hehehe.....and side step the vexations of doom and gloom and tune into an eight hour vexation of piano</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ubu.com/sound/vexations.html" target="_blank">http://www.ubu.com/sound/vexations.html</a></p>
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<p>I had to look up the definition ov "vexation" and this is what Google first provided.</p>
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<p>jest a little music interlude to the perplexing topic!</p>
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<p>-Lu</p>
<p>hehehe.....and side step the vexations of doom and gloom and tune into an eight hour vexation of piano</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ubu.com/sound/vexations.html" target="_blank">http://www.ubu.com/sound/vexations.html</a></p>
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<p>I had to look up the definition ov "vexation" and this is what Google first provided.</p>
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<p>jest a little music interlude to the perplexing topic!</p>
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<p>-Lu</p> Avoid those who are vexations…tag:atheistnexus.org,2011-02-24:2182797:Comment:11349072011-02-24T04:06:38.438ZDoug Reardonhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/DougReardon
Avoid those who are vexations to the spirit
Avoid those who are vexations to the spirit [I'm responding here, so that…tag:atheistnexus.org,2011-02-24:2182797:Comment:11348752011-02-24T01:39:37.092ZL. Olcotthttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/LOlcott
[I'm responding here, so that I can click the "follow" link below. I'm in the same situation as Justin B]
[I'm responding here, so that I can click the "follow" link below. I'm in the same situation as Justin B] I suggest putting up some bou…tag:atheistnexus.org,2011-02-23:2182797:Comment:11345622011-02-23T23:24:19.138ZMonica S.http://atheistnexus.org/profile/MonicaS83
I suggest putting up some boundaries of where you will not go and where you will go when it comes to conversations of that nature. Believers, especially those in your family tend to take it personally when someone leaves the faith.<br />
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If they were as interested as doing the right thing as they would listen to the opposition instead of seeking confimation bias.
I suggest putting up some boundaries of where you will not go and where you will go when it comes to conversations of that nature. Believers, especially those in your family tend to take it personally when someone leaves the faith.<br />
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If they were as interested as doing the right thing as they would listen to the opposition instead of seeking confimation bias. just say, I respect you, so r…tag:atheistnexus.org,2011-02-23:2182797:Comment:11349192011-02-23T20:01:06.804ZAgeOfAtheists14http://atheistnexus.org/profile/secularorbust
just say, I respect you, so respect me... wanna go see a movie?
just say, I respect you, so respect me... wanna go see a movie? My elderly mother was visitin…tag:atheistnexus.org,2011-02-21:2182797:Comment:11317752011-02-21T10:49:56.067ZJan deBoerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/JandeBoer
<p>My elderly mother was visiting, out of necessity because an ice storm had left her home without power.</p>
<p>Somehow, the subject of God came up in the conversation, and I told her I didn't believe.</p>
<p>"What! You don't believe in God? Where do you suppose everything came from?"</p>
<p>I then asked her where God came from. I could almost hear the rusty wheels grinding - she hadn't thought about that before. She looked visibly shaken. There was no further God talk.</p>
<p>My elderly mother was visiting, out of necessity because an ice storm had left her home without power.</p>
<p>Somehow, the subject of God came up in the conversation, and I told her I didn't believe.</p>
<p>"What! You don't believe in God? Where do you suppose everything came from?"</p>
<p>I then asked her where God came from. I could almost hear the rusty wheels grinding - she hadn't thought about that before. She looked visibly shaken. There was no further God talk.</p> My family is / was very good…tag:atheistnexus.org,2011-02-21:2182797:Comment:11321392011-02-21T03:41:43.083ZBrian Georgehttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/BrianGeorge
<p>My family is / was very good at emotional manipulation, and your story just brought back a lot of memories about my families reaction.</p>
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<p>I agree with Sam Jones above (<em>You told her once in a nice respectable manner, in my eyes any further assault on you because of your choice is a blatant disrespect and should be met with equal force).</em></p>
<p>They have to have respect for you and your decisions or you will always be a child in their eyes.</p>
<p>My family is / was very good at emotional manipulation, and your story just brought back a lot of memories about my families reaction.</p>
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<p>I agree with Sam Jones above (<em>You told her once in a nice respectable manner, in my eyes any further assault on you because of your choice is a blatant disrespect and should be met with equal force).</em></p>
<p>They have to have respect for you and your decisions or you will always be a child in their eyes.</p> Hard call. I told mine I was…tag:atheistnexus.org,2011-02-14:2182797:Comment:11247662011-02-14T14:23:52.387ZRachelhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Rachel638
<p>Hard call. I told mine I was atheist and she just looked at me with her kind soft eyes and said, "I love you."</p>
<p>My DOG! I felt like a little ant. So now I respect my elders and just smile and suck it up. I don't have to be in everyone's face. Once I am more secure with my non belief, it does not matter if I shout it out. She was being kind and I was an ass to her and I will never do that again.</p>
<p>Hard call. I told mine I was atheist and she just looked at me with her kind soft eyes and said, "I love you."</p>
<p>My DOG! I felt like a little ant. So now I respect my elders and just smile and suck it up. I don't have to be in everyone's face. Once I am more secure with my non belief, it does not matter if I shout it out. She was being kind and I was an ass to her and I will never do that again.</p> They always want to talk abou…tag:atheistnexus.org,2011-01-28:2182797:Comment:10963902011-01-28T22:43:17.467ZGozhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Goz
They always want to talk about god,even if you don't want to hear it...You see,your feelings don't matter here...Tell her simply you will not discuss her religious beliefs,if she starts going on about god,excuse yourself and hang up the phone. If you do this enough,it will eventually sink in that she can't talk to you if she has to bring the cakedude in the sky into the conversation.
They always want to talk about god,even if you don't want to hear it...You see,your feelings don't matter here...Tell her simply you will not discuss her religious beliefs,if she starts going on about god,excuse yourself and hang up the phone. If you do this enough,it will eventually sink in that she can't talk to you if she has to bring the cakedude in the sky into the conversation. I guess it all depends on wha…tag:atheistnexus.org,2011-01-22:2182797:Comment:10891132011-01-22T14:59:29.267ZJedi Wandererhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/AaronFeldman
I guess it all depends on what sort of an outcome you want. If you don't care what she thinks about you, go right ahead and be s direct as you want to be. The thing with grandparents and old folk in general is that they are stuck in their worldview and nothing you say will change it. I would just listen politely and then respond that you don't believe there is reason to believe in god either from the rational, metaphysical/epistemological perspective (there isn't enough justification to know…
I guess it all depends on what sort of an outcome you want. If you don't care what she thinks about you, go right ahead and be s direct as you want to be. The thing with grandparents and old folk in general is that they are stuck in their worldview and nothing you say will change it. I would just listen politely and then respond that you don't believe there is reason to believe in god either from the rational, metaphysical/epistemological perspective (there isn't enough justification to know that a god exists, it isn't a rational belief), or that you need to believe in god to be a good, moral person. Just tell her you're a humanist and then you have a good position to argue from if it turns into that. Morals are what's good for humans, for this world not the next. If you are respectful then hopefully she will be too and no harm done.