“I think, you know, we need some fresh thinking. There’s a tendency of civil libertarians to kind of repeat tired formulas. It’s a kind of nostalgia for the old days. It’s like the people who are misty-eyed about the New Deal and things like that or the labor union struggles of the 1920s, the Wobblies…civil libertarians are nostalgic for the McCarthy days. A simple enemy — McCarthyism…Now, it seems to me, immensely more complex.”