I no this has been asked over and over again. But i was wondering does Reggie Miller and Robert Horry go in the Hall of Fame?

I think they both should be but i would pick Miller to be in the Hall of Fame over Hoory any day. Miller had done more then Horry. I no Horry's career isnt over, but i dont think he is going to accomplished what Miller did. The only thing with Miller is he never won a ring. He has been to the Finals though. Miller and Horry are probly the best clutch players ever to play. I think they both should. But I know Reggie will be in the Hall of Fame but i dont no bout Robert Horry.

What do u think?

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Emotionally I'd like Horry, but technically he hasn't accomplished what other HOFers have. Of course, the HOF has a pretty blah entry in there already. Then again, he does have the most made playoff threes. Who knows.

Reggie Miller is unquestionably a HOF player. Whether or not he's a first ballot HOF (meaning he is a lock on his first year of eligibility) is another question.

Miller's career numbers are certainly HOF worthy as well as some of his accomplishments (5 Time All Star, Olympian, 3 Time All NBA, 15th on the All Time Scoring List. Considering his career almost defines a single franchise (Indiana) and he made them a perrenial playoff team for over a decade - I would say yes. Everyone always knew where the ball was going to go in crunch time - but yet stopping him was another question entirely.

Horry is one of the most clutch players in NBA history. But he is a career role player that was often not even the third offensive option on his team, much less the first. he never had to carry a franchise as so many HOF players did and his career numbers and accomplishments are extremely modest. He admits to loafing through seasons until the playoffs.

To make a quick comparrison: In 13 seasons, Horry has just over 7,000 career points. In the same time span - Miller had nearly 20,000 points.

You have to consider a players entire career - not just the moments we choose to recall. Miller got it done 82 games a year PLUS the post season. Horry loafed through the season and finally showed up at critical moments.

I know some of us may want to consider Horry now that he's a Spur - but the truth is: he's never belonged there.The HOF is for the elite players in NBA history - Horry doesn't qualify.

Reggie Miller is a definate YES. And when Robert Horry decides to retire like Reggie I am sure he will go down on the list. Right now it is kinda hard to throw him in there when he has just signed a new contract with our Spurs. When his time comes make sure you have a HUGE bucket of popcorn and a few snacks because the HIGHLIGHTS they will show will have you sitting for a while. THANKS BIG SHOT ROB!!! And the very best of luck to Reggie Miller!

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Miller of course. When anyone who knows basketball thinks of the 3 pointer we think of Bird and Miller. his stats rank up there with the best all-time shooters in history and he is clutch in ALL playoff situations. Unfortuentaly for him he never had the chance to play with Hakeem, Snaq or Duncan.

Horry no. Even though the basketball HoF is by far the easiest to get into, Horry still does not deserve it. I can't think of a single role-player, in any sport, that is in the HoF. Although he is the single biggest playoff clutch player in history, he never would have been able to prove that without 3 of the greatest big men to ever play.

I thought the HOF was the Hall of Fame of Basketball, not just the NBA elite players. Correct me if i'm wrong.

You're right - it is a basketball HOF. But we are talking about NBA basketball players in this particular case. Whether you played in college, internationally or professionally - only the most elite players belong.

Horry had neither a standout career at Alabama, he never competed internationally and he was a role player with very modest numbers in the NBA.

You're right - it is a basketball HOF. But we are talking about NBA basketball players in this particular case. Whether you played in college, internationally or professionally - only the most elite players belong.

Horry had neither a standout career at Alabama, he never competed internationally and he was a role player with very modest numbers in the NBA.

I don't see how he gets in at all or is even considered.

Honestly i don't know too much about the HOF and I don't know if Horry will belong there or not. My question was just to clarify the point of the HOF is a Basketball Hall of Fame and not just NBA. Thank you for your answer Rich.

If Lynn Swan can be in the Pro Football Hall based on his Super Bowl performances (because he did not have Hall of Fame career numbers), then Horry deserves to be in!

Swan had good (not great) career numbers and was an All Pro Wide Receiver.

He wasn't Jerry Rice by any stretch, but it wasn't like he was Freddie Mitchell either!

Horry has not even had a Lynn Swan type career. Where are the points? The rebounds? The All Star appearences, the All NBA Selections?

He has none of that.

For all his supposed 3 point prowess - look at where he ranks in NBA history:

Career 3PFG - 81st in NBA History
Career 3PFG Attempts - 74th in NBA History

Maybe it's his defense?

Career Steals - 97th in NBA History
Career Blocks - 77th in NBA History

As I said - you have to view a players complete career and look at it in perspective. If you do that - you will see that Horry was a modest NBA player for the majority of his career, who played big in some critical playoff games.

Horry played in over a thousand regular season and playoff games combined. He did absolutely nothing to stand out for those regular seasons - as well as in some of those post seasons.

How can you reward a player who only played exceptionally well or showed up for less than 10% of the games he actually played in??

robert-yes he has had the most 3's in the playoffs and is one of the best clutch shooters

What part of my above post do you not understand or comprehend?

Horry is a player who played exceptionally well for less than 10% of the games he played in. That is NOT Hall of Fame material.

How would you feel if a guy that works with you was given a substantial raise or made Manager or whatever, and you actually knew that he only busted his butt when the bosses were around and worked hard less than 10% of the time he was on the clock.

How would you feel if you were overlooked by your bosses for such a position when you busted your azz 100% every day, 5 days a week - and it went to some loafer that only worked hard when it was convienient for him and when he knew the bosses would be watching?

Not very good, I'm assuming.

I like Robert Horry. I respect Robert Horry and his contributions to this team and throughout his career.

But he did not have a Hall of Fame career by any stretch of the imagination. Having the record fopr the most 3 pointers in the playoffs doesn't change that fact.

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yes to both

As it is a hall of fame- Reggie and Big Shot Rob are famous for being clutch performers, especially during the playfoffs

You have GOT to be f@#king KIDDING ME????????????????????

Why not put each and every famous player in the HOF?? It is about FAME after all, right????

If Horry continues to make big plays in the playoffs and in the process win 2 more rings, then I wouldn't be shocked if Horry gets in the HOF.

As a point of reference look at the numbers for K.C. Jones. He was voted into the HOF as a player. Obviously, his coaching credentials had to have helped, but point is: it isn't as if role players haven't got in before.

P.S. Horry's numbers in the regular season are remarkably similar to his playoff numbers. These stats don't support that assertion that he loafs in the regular season or only plays hard for 10% of his games.

Miller is a HOF, he holds two regular season and playoffs 3PT FG made records, had made a lot of points during his carrer, has been all-star five times, he was the guy to go of a playoffs team, and he is considered one of the most clutch players of all time. Besides he's an 1996 Olympic champion too, he played more games for the same franchise than any player except Malone and Stockton for the Jazz. He goes HOF with his first nomination.

Horry has sunk MANY different Rockets, Lakers and Spurs opponents during the playoffs. With highest level one on one defense, timely rebounds and blocks, legendary threes in the clutch. He holds the record for most 3PT FG made in finals. Also, he ranks second all time, in three points made in playoffs, behind Reggie Miller. Horry ranks third all time in playoffs games, behind Pippen and Kareem. As of now he goes in, but will require two or three nominations.

Horry hasnt retired yet, so he could go down with one or two more rings, and the most 3PT FG in playoffs and most playoffs games played records, in which case he will be a lock too for the HOF.

Sorry, but Lynn Swan does not deserve to be in the Hall over players like Drew Pearson or Art Monk. Swan did not have a hall of fame career and if the Steelers had only won 2 SB's instead of 4, he would not be in. I was mearly comparing that fact that if he could be voted in on his superbowl catches then why not Horry on his clutch 3's!!!

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Swan had good (not great) career numbers and was an All Pro Wide Receiver.

He wasn't Jerry Rice by any stretch, but it wasn't like he was Freddie Mitchell either!

Horry has not even had a Lynn Swan type career. Where are the points? The rebounds? The All Star appearences, the All NBA Selections?

He has none of that.

For all his supposed 3 point prowess - look at where he ranks in NBA history:

Career 3PFG - 81st in NBA History
Career 3PFG Attempts - 74th in NBA History

Maybe it's his defense?

Career Steals - 97th in NBA History
Career Blocks - 77th in NBA History

As I said - you have to view a players complete career and look at it in perspective. If you do that - you will see that Horry was a modest NBA player for the majority of his career, who played big in some critical playoff games.

Horry played in over a thousand regular season and playoff games combined. He did absolutely nothing to stand out for those regular seasons - as well as in some of those post seasons.

How can you reward a player who only played exceptionally well or showed up for less than 10% of the games he actually played in??

KC started for 3 Boston championship teams. He was a reserve for the other 5 rings he won. But it is very clear that he was a role player. The stars of the team earlier on were Cousy and Russell, and later on Sam Jones, Havlicek and Russell.

Role players CAN enter the HOF. Is Horry worthy? Quite possibly.

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Jones isn't the only one. The original sixth man, Frank Ramsey, also was never an All-Star, and he's in the HOF. That means that extraordinary role players that contribute and win big have a chance to get into the HOF. The precedent has been set.

No worries about "lowering the bar". After all, guys like Horry don't come around very often, do they? John Sally is no Horry, that's for sure.

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You are saying a player must be an NBA AS to be inducted.
Dozens and dozens of players are in the HOF, who never played in the NBA AS game.
If AS game appearances were required, how do you explain that?
How about Drazen? How about Woodard?
How do you explain that?

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Horry has done nothing on the international scene and was never a Trotter.

Again....If AS game appearances were required, how do you these players getting in the HOF?

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At least KC Jones was the QB so to speak and a defensive specialist for 3 of his 9 rings.

Sounds like a role player huh?
I thought role players, and players with no AS appearances were not good enough for the HOF?

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It's a travesty that guys like these are in and guys like Artis Gilmore are still out.

To echo what others have already said - Reggie should be in, Horry shouldn't. Reggie was the personification of a team and a playing style, who was in starting shape until he was 39. Horry does have the rings, but he's a roleplayer and not a star, much less a franchise player.

Yo Blake......
Ummm....re-reading my post to you......it retrospect it seems real confrontational, sort of in a "I am right, and you are an idiot" way, which wasn't intended. I hope you didn't take it that way, bud.

I think when it is all said and done, Horry won't get in.
If he gets in, I'll be happy for him.
If he doesn't, I won't shed a tear.

What is ironic to me is the man has 6 rings......but I don't think any team will retire his number.

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Hey Robert's Career isn't over yet maybe he will do something great before he retires.