My perspective is about the people. Cities are full of feral, anonymous people looking to make a quick buck. They are great places for people to hide.

In the country you can't hide and it makes for a more integrated place particularly regarding age, sexual orientation and colour. Bigots stand out just as much as thieves and it creates more tolerance and good behaviour.

Urban or rural? I've lived in both and it has to be the countryside for me.

I need the space for both my mind and body to roam, and I have that in abundance here. I can be out of the village within a couple of minutes and them I've got practically unlimited terrain to explore and exercise in. Farmland, forestry plantations, tracks, footpaths, hills, valleys - space! And the great thing is that it feels as though it is there just for my enjoyment. Although stunningly beautiful in parts, the area around Methven remains unvisited by tourists, and even largely unknown by locals. I could visit one of my 'special places' - a particular spot by the River Almond, the woodland at Keillour, Methven Loch - sit all day and not see another soul.

Cities and towns are fine for some things, but then I've got Perth and Dundee just down the road, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Aberdeen just a bit further out, so I don't feel as though I'm missing out.

No, give me the open spaces any day.

Heavenly!

I must admit to having a soft spot for Chester and its history. One of my favourite places is Llandudno in North Wales. Roaming about on the Great Orme or relaxing on the South Shore is sheer delight.

I must admit to having a soft spot for Chester and its history. One of my favourite places is Llandudno in North Wales. Roaming about on the Great Orme or relaxing on the South Shore is sheer delight.

When I was a student, my wife and I had a week's holiday in Llandudno. Money was very tight so we spent most of what we had on a B&B (with evening meal included) so at least we were guaranteed food and accommodation. With little spending money we seemed to spend much of our time wandering around the various parts of the Great Orme. It is still the place we make for when we are there.

"There are now more Trident submarines based in Scotland than there are MPs to vote for them."

When I was a student, my wife and I had a week's holiday in Llandudno. Money was very tight so we spent most of what we had on a B&B (with evening meal included) so at least we were guaranteed food and accommodation. With little spending money we seemed to spend much of our time wandering around the various parts of the Great Orme. It is still the place we make for when we are there.

I was up there on Saturday and it never fails to inspire. The copper mines are worth a visit, if you haven't been down them yet. Heading up the Great Orme from the South Shore, you will eventually see where they tested weapons during the Second World War. Just offshore, a submarine sank after her launch from Liverpool, resulting in many deaths.

I was up there on Saturday and it never fails to inspire. The copper mines are worth a visit, if you haven't been down them yet. Heading up the Great Orme from the South Shore, you will eventually see where they tested weapons during the Second World War. Just offshore, a submarine sank after her launch from Liverpool, resulting in many deaths.

Nearly. If it's the sub i know about, it was the Thetis. It sank in Liverpool Bay and washed up at Llandudno. Only one survivor a Leading Stoker Arnold. It was rescued, refitted and relaunched as the Thunderbolt. It was sunk in the Med by an Italian corvair (corvette?). One of my relatives was a mate of L.S. Arnold and applied for the gig on Thetis. Arnold got the job on Thetis, my uncle Fred got the job on Thunderbolt and went down with her.

edit to add: It sank because a fleck of paint covered the outer door locked sensor on one of the torpedo tubes. To show the dignitaries (launch and maiden voyage) how good the sub was, a seaman opened the inner door, believing the outer one was closed. It wasn't. The sub sat nose down, tail sticking out of the water in Liverpool Bay for quite a long time but nobody could get into it and rescue the people.

Nearly. If it's the sub i know about, it was the Thetis. It sank in Liverpool Bay and washed up at Llandudno. Only one survivor a Leading Stoker Arnold. It was rescued, refitted and relaunched as the Thunderbolt. It was sunk in the Med by an Italian corvair (corvette?). One of my relatives was a mate of L.S. Arnold and applied for the gig on Thetis. Arnold got the job on Thetis, my uncle Fred got the job on Thunderbolt and went down with her.

edit to add: It sank because a fleck of paint covered the outer door locked sensor on one of the torpedo tubes. To show the dignitaries (launch and maiden voyage) how good the sub was, a seaman opened the inner door, believing the outer one was closed. It wasn't. The sub sat nose down, tail sticking out of the water in Liverpool Bay for quite a long time but nobody could get into it and rescue the people.

Nearly. If it's the sub i know about, it was the Thetis. It sank in Liverpool Bay and washed up at Llandudno. Only one survivor a Leading Stoker Arnold. It was rescued, refitted and relaunched as the Thunderbolt. It was sunk in the Med by an Italian corvair (corvette?). One of my relatives was a mate of L.S. Arnold and applied for the gig on Thetis. Arnold got the job on Thetis, my uncle Fred got the job on Thunderbolt and went down with her.

edit to add: It sank because a fleck of paint covered the outer door locked sensor on one of the torpedo tubes. To show the dignitaries (launch and maiden voyage) how good the sub was, a seaman opened the inner door, believing the outer one was closed. It wasn't. The sub sat nose down, tail sticking out of the water in Liverpool Bay for quite a long time but nobody could get into it and rescue the people.

Press cuttings in New Brighton fort tell of the sub being over crowded on her launch and sinking off Llandudno! It was still a major disaster at the time wherever it sank.

we were once on A pub trip to Bridlington to play in the National dominoes/5sand3s final's we were from the Daisy in Bramley,and as we were passing those nice pleasant villages someone said wouldn't it be nice to live in country villages like this.To which most of us nodded agreement,apart from Cooky who said not me there's only one pub in some of these places if I get barred there's no where for me to go

but you and I weve been through that and this is not our fate.
So let us so let us not talk falsely now.
The hour is getting late
FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB HAS DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESSTHEN i DONT KNOW WHAT IS.

we were once on A pub trip to Bridlington to play in the National dominoes/5sand3s final's we were from the Daisy in Bramley,and as we were passing those nice pleasant villages someone said wouldn't it be nice to live in country villages like this.To which most of us nodded agreement,apart from Cooky who said not me there's only one pub in some of these places if I get barred there's no where for me to go

Went to Bridlington this year but with mixed feelings about the place. That said, the chalk cliffs offered some great walks.

I know it sounds a very nice idea, but be careful of the "retire to the countryside" idea. It sounds great, but what if you cannot afford to run a car or if you become unable to drive due to a medical condition? You can get very isolated in villages. Small towns on the edge of the countryside are probably a better idea, especially if there are some public transport links. But if you like the city, then it does offer many advantages.