“If you can find the what the overlap is between what you love doing and what people want, I mean, that’s the thing, right, and everybody talks about that – I’m very lucky that I got there. You and I both share the perspective that it took A LOT of struggle, A LOT of struggle, to get there, and it was not easy.”

“I don’t think I realized how hard it was until I found that fit, that overlap, between what I could provide, what I like providing, and what people want to buy. And then suddenly it was like, ‘Oh, this is what easy mode is – this is what it feels like to be graceful.’ Running head first into a wall for a few years, I thought that was normal, I thought that was what owning a business was like.”

“I believe artists who become great just work harder at it then anyone else. I really do. I mean painters, and things like that, they just work harder. They might have some ability, but they don’t have anymore ability than anyone else. They’re just driven. I think drive is the most important thing.”

“But what about responsibility, obviously you’re the best at what you do, so don’t you feel you have a responsibility…”

The oppression, the destruction, and the genocides started with the fear of the “other people.” Fear that led to hate. Then hate led to the justification to dehumanize the others. There are two universal stories in the world: the beautiful tales of love and the ugly tomes of fear. If we are to see peace on earth, it is time that we outgrew the tight evolutionary grip of fear. Unfortunately, overcoming 6 billion years of evolution won’t happen quickly.

…and to me, that’s what design is, it’s not creating the product – it’s the process that you go through. It’s not the final thing, it’s how you got to the final thing. It’s the journey. It’s all the crap that comes with it.