I cant believe your are bragging about fighting Wars for Our Jew run Government ; for Israel!!And I'm the retard.If you are that proud of fighting on Israels behalf , f*cking move their!!!You spilled your blood for Israel not any US citizens , you are part of the problem ; a hired gun for the f*cking stinking Jews!!!

....... and he could still beat your ass and break that unobtanium scope and beat you over the head with those 3 foot wide apples

I guess this is the wrong thread but does anyone else think having a 1/8 MOA adjustments on a non-competition gun is a bit silly at best?

Can you imagine having to rapid adjust for a shot at say 8-900 meters and having to click for a 3/4 value 25 mph wind, plus the range? You would have to have a really quick spotter and even then that's still a lot of clicking.

Personally I prefer 1/4 MOA adjustments on a L/R rifle and 1/2-1/3 MOA on anything else.

Then again I suppose for it to matter you would actually have to know how to apply the above applications in a combat situation.....

I cant believe your are bragging about fighting Wars for Our Jew run Government ; for Israel!!And I'm the retard.If you are that proud of fighting on Israels behalf , f*cking move their!!!You spilled your blood for Israel not any US citizens , you are part of the problem ; a hired gun for the f*cking stinking Jews!!!

Common response for a cowardly keyboard boot licking REMF KEYBOARD PUSSY ! Do tell, does your wife your right hand get jealous and threaten to name your girlfriend your left hand as a plaintive in the divorce suit. WTF an REMF retard telling soldier's about weapon's system's.

Find me then and go hand to hand. You already stated how easy it would be. Stop typing about it and get it over with already. The fear and anticipation is really nerve wracking.

You spent what, 2-3 times the cost of a rifle for a scope intended to be used on a bolt action rifle, in order to supposedly make a 600 meter shot? And I'm the asshole? Lol.

How am I "f*cking with you? Simply by pointing out that you are not in fact able to make a shot you claim to be able to make?

I am full of myself, and I have been called an "as*hole" among many other derogatory terms. Don't care.

Never said I have shot every gun ever made, just saying that after several years as Long Range Marksman, and Small Arms Weapons Expert it is unlikely that you have fired as many rounds from as many platforms as I have. I wasn't boasting with that statement either, it was in direct response to a claim you made that you supposedly have shot more practice rounds than I could even dream of or something along those lines.

Your grammar is atrocious. It is difficult to muddle through your incoherent, rambling statements.

How can you say its an impossible shot?I learned how far the bullet fell at 200 , 300 , 400 , 500 and 600 yards.Its not hard really.Then i learned the same thing about wind drift using a Wind Wizard.So i know how far a 7.62 by 39 round drifts with 15 mile an hour wind coming from the left.

So you take the bullet drop reading for the intended range , lets say 500 yards and then you get a wind reading.Then you use these two figures to know exactly where to hold for Zero.I'm not pointing no where near the apple when i squeeze the trigger , I'm aiming above it and either to the right or the left.Sure i could make adjustments on the scope so the cross hairs were on it , but i prefer my method.Aiming somewhere completely different to make up for bullet drop and windage..........

I find pleasure in the fact that i trained myself and wasn't trained by ZOG to do its dirty work , like killing a million Iraqis , innocent civilians....Most of the young kids signing up don't have know idea they aren't fighting for their Country but for Israel!!!You , a WN , should know better.

I pity the 5000 dead US soldiers that gave their lives for believing they were fighting for Uncle Sam.So many dead Americans for nothing.Not to mention their families pain and suffering!!!

How can you say its an impossible shot?I learned how far the bullet fell at 200 , 300 , 400 , 500 and 600 yards.Its not hard really.Then i learned the same thing about wind drift using a Wind Wizard.So i know how far a 7.62 by 39 round drifts with 15 mile an hour wind coming from the left.

a wasr is not accurate enough to make the shot, it's tolerances too loose and it is far to inconsistent, i don't care if you have the most accurate wind analyzing equipment and the best optics and range finders available, you still can't make the shot because the gun simply cant do it. quit lying, nobody believes you and you are making a fool of yourself

How can you say its an impossible shot?I learned how far the bullet fell at 200 , 300 , 400 , 500 and 600 yards.Its not hard really.Then i learned the same thing about wind drift using a Wind Wizard.So i know how far a 7.62 by 39 round drifts with 15 mile an hour wind coming from the left.

So you take the bullet drop reading for the intended range , lets say 500 yards and then you get a wind reading.Then you use these two figures to know exactly where to hold for Zero.I'm not pointing no where near the apple when i squeeze the trigger , I'm aiming above it and either to the right or the left.Sure i could make adjustments on the scope so the cross hairs were on it , but i prefer my method.Aiming somewhere completely different to make up for bullet drop and windage..........

I find pleasure in the fact that i trained myself and wasn't trained by ZOG to do its dirty work , like killing a million Iraqis , innocent civilians....Most of the young kids signing up don't have know idea they aren't fighting for their Country but for Israel!!!You , a WN , should know better.

I pity the 5000 dead US soldiers that gave their lives for believing they were fighting for Uncle Sam.So many dead Americans for nothing.Not to mention their families pain and suffering!!!

Are you aware of the concept of MOA? WASR 10 MOA varies from 2-7. Even assuming that your WASR 10 is magically superior to that and achieves 1 MOA (hypothetically obviously), that still translates to a 6 inch group (again grossly hypothetical here) at 600 yards. Apples are approximately 3" in diameter and circumfrence.

A well built and upgraded AR on the other hand can easily achieve 1/2 or better MOA.

What exactly is the bullet drop on a 7.62X39 at 600 yds anyways? Also what is the drift in a 15mph crosswind?

Kentucky windage is ok in a bind, however it is hardly effective enough to consider yourself "trained".

Pay attention at the 14 second mark. I would suggest watching the whole video though if you think that AK 47's are accurate.

I'm not arguing that an AK 47 makes an ok room broom (I'd prefer an MP5 if I'm going to be carrying a specific role firearm), or as a close range MG (I'd rather carry an M249 SAW, or M240B), or if you are poor, or just want a cheap gun that you don't have to clean because you are lazy.

However, arguing that it is an accurate weapon design is beyond illogical. The ballistics of the 7.62X39MM cartridge, as well as the overall design of the AK 47, and SKS rifles are counterproductive to accuracy. There is no way to argue this without simply making stuff up.

Personally I would prefer the option of putting a round through any body part that leaves cover, than hoping my weapon could get lucky and hit the cover itself.

In answer to my earlier question without bothering to look at the ballistics I can tell you that bullet drop with a 7.62x39 at 600 yards is in the neighborhood of 160 inches. Bullet drift anyone? I know that in a 10 mph crosswind at 600 yards a 5.56 can drift up to 4 feet based on rifling twist, barrel length, ammo used etc. That knowledge converted to the much heavier, much slower 7.62x39 cartridge in a 15 mph crosswind would result in a drift great enough that you would be unlikely to see the target in your scope if you adjusted for it.

The AK isn't as bad of a weapon as some would have you think. The major issue with the AK-47 system is the sight radius and the cartridge limitations. If you switch to a mojo sight or optics, you will get far better results. I've fired Galils and Valmets that were far more accurate than many of the AK's built from parts kits. I have no problems with any of my AK's performances, I've got several. But then again, I'm not looking for a tack driver. I'll take the folding stock AK with a 75 round drum. I like the 154 grain softpoint ammo. It's almost three times the weight of the 52 grain 223. Makes big sucking holes in whatever it hits. I had an AR. Didn't like it much. The pinging sound it made with every shot I found to be annoying. Jammed a lot. This was 25 years ago. I'm sure that the platform is fine these days. I'm not real big on the 223 round. I like 30 caliber, especially 308. I'm not looking to shoot long range for the most part, but I have the capacity and capability to do so. My favorites are the G-3 and the StG-58.

The AK isn't as bad of a weapon as some would have you think. The major issue with the AK-47 system is the sight radius and the cartridge limitations. If you switch to a mojo sight or optics, you will get far better results. I've fired Galils and Valmets that were far more accurate than many of the AK's built from parts kits. I have no problems with any of my AK's performances, I've got several. But then again, I'm not looking for a tack driver. I'll take the folding stock AK with a 75 round drum. I like the 154 grain softpoint ammo. It's almost three times the weight of the 52 grain 223. Makes big sucking holes in whatever it hits. I had an AR. Didn't like it much. The pinging sound it made with every shot I found to be annoying. Jammed a lot. This was 25 years ago. I'm sure that the platform is fine these days. I'm not real big on the 223 round. I like 30 caliber, especially 308. I'm not looking to shoot long range for the most part, but I have the capacity and capability to do so. My favorites are the G-3 and the StG-58.

I'm not a big fan of the 62 grain .223 either, I use those for plinking. My war stock is all Black Hills MK 262 77 grain 5.56 mm, and that is what I zeroed my iron sights with. It has the thump to clear the brass every time..in fact it ejects FORWARD of the ejection port . The 55 grain Federal 5.56 ejects pretty much toward the rear and the cheapie Black Hills .223 ejects straight to the side. Also it has more stopping power but still maintains that fun characteristic of taking the scenic route once inside the target.

I've never fired 52 grain though, unless you are talking about load which I have no idea. I get bullet weight and powder load confused CONSTANTLY

MK 262 is what many special unit personnel and mercenaries* who use 5.56/.223 size AR platforms prefer to use as well, and it isn't that expensive (in terms of this size round which is expensive anyway)...just hard to find.

*if it doesn't matter that the enemy knows who did the shooting, that is.