Out for a ride today, took the wife to a Dr appointment and on the way home, my turn signals BOTH turned on, no flashing, but all the signal lights on. After a mile or so, they turned back off, then after a bit, back on like this for about a ten mile stretch. When all the signal lights are on, the turn signals do not work, so I had to use hand signals to make lane changes and turns. . . . About a mile or two from home, everything started working right again. Ideas where to start looking for the problem/s ?

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Sounds to me like a bad ground wire connection in the wiring harness. Use the search function to find other threads covering this topic.Im sure others will be here shortly to help steer you in the right direction to solve this issue

the wig wag effected your turn signals ? Weird, That is one I would have never guessed ! Will look into it as soon as weather allows. I did take the bike out today with no issues at all. . . . weird .

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Uncle Fester wrote:the wig wag effected your turn signals ? Weird, That is one I would have never guessed ! Will look into it as soon as weather allows. I did take the bike out today with no issues at all. . . . weird .

Not really weird at all..it does wire into the brake light to cause the light to cycle on/off....The Wig-Wag burned up...had an internal short that caused the issue...it was age related...had gone thru the cycle of flashes over the years and just finally died...but it caused a major issue with the ground and effected the bikes electrical system. I have since replaced with a new W/W unit and it works perfectly!!

Yes, this is a classic symptom of a bad ground. Bad grounds can be tough to find - you can at least find where it is by taking a long wire, attaching it to the negative terminal on the battery, and using it as a probe. Start pushing it into connectors where ground wires are present - obviously some lighting harnesses would be a good place to start. When you hit one that fixes the problem, you've identified the part of the circuit that has the bad ground. You can then work backward to find out where the bad ground is.

Sometimes when the bad ground is buried somewhere deep inside a wiring harness, it's easier to just run a new ground wire as a replacement, and wire it in permanently.

Ok, I am not a fan of my WIG WAG, so I will start there. Now that brings up a new question. . . .

WHERE is the WIG WAG mounted ? LOL

Mine is wired up to just wig wag the trunk break lights, and I would rather it flash them all, so I want to remove mine for now, and later on I will get a new unit and wire it up the way I want.

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I had to take the bike out tonight, and MUCH to my dismay, I found out that when the turns are acting up (all lit up at once) the brake lights do not work either. . . So I am really leaning towards the WIG WAG box being bad. As I stated before, I am not a fan of how mine is hooked up, so I am willing o remove it for now, I just have to figure out where the darn thing is mounted ! lol

Where are the most common mounting points for one that is only hooked up to the trunk brake lights ?

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Thanks Ding Dong, if it warms up today I will look for it there, and I also saw someone mounted theirs under the trunk, will look there too.

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The wig wag unit is under the trunk, but it is not a BACK OFF unit (I don't think), the unit I have is fully incapsulated in rubber with no cooling fins or anything like that. It has 6 wires total, two orange or red, two blue and two green. As with other wiring jobs, the PO soldered the leads together CLOSE to the tail light housing and taped them up so I can not tell what I am working with. Grrrr

Can any one offer any help ?

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That is the EXACT old Wig Wag I had on my '96 (you also have a '96..) that took out the lights on my bike....

There should be 6 wires in total two red or orange, two blue and two green. One of the green should have a yellow stripe..the solid green is ground and the green/yellow strip connects to the brake light power. The blue and red are to be connected to the actual light themselves...Honestly..as old as it is I would pull it out and replace it...it could become a failure in the near future...

Really wish I could be more helpful...I would need to see the light schematic for better detail.

I want to remove it, yes, but the PO cut and soldered the wires with no slack in them ( like all his wiring projects I have had to fix so far. . . .IDIOT! ) and I am having trouble figuring out where what goes.

I did figure out, I THOUGHT, that the two red or orange wires go up to the left side of the trunk and LOOK as if they are cut into a green wire w/white or silver dots so I just need to remove the red wires and connect the green silver doted wire back together. . .

Unfortunately I do not have a garage, shed or covered car port to work under and the sky just started clouding up and temp dropped some, so I may be done for the day now. . . grrr

Music is probably the only real magic I have encountered in my life. There's not some trick involved with it. It's pure and it's real. It moves, it heals, it communicates and does all these incredible things.

Uncle Fester wrote:I want to remove it, yes, but the PO cut and soldered the wires with no slack in them ( like all his wiring projects I have had to fix so far. . . .IDIOT! ) and I am having trouble figuring out where what goes.

I did figure out, I THOUGHT, that the two red or orange wires go up to the left side of the trunk and LOOK as if they are cut into a green wire w/white or silver dots so I just need to remove the red wires and connect the green silver doted wire back together. . .

Unfortunately I do not have a garage, shed or covered car port to work under and the sky just started clouding up and temp dropped some, so I may be done for the day now. . . grrr

there should be a wire cut near each brake light connector then the blue and red wires are spliced into the ckt. I will try to draw this up for you tonight using the wiring diagram I have at home and scan it in...unless WingAdmin gets to you first...

As an example...the blue pair would go to the left brake light, the red go to the right brake light...green is ground and green/silver is the brake actuator (power) ( I could be reversed on that where green is power and green/silver is ground)

RED or ORANGE is Left brake
Blue is Right brake
Solid green is Ground
Green w/ yellow stripe is the power

If that is right, I can cut and connect the two Red together,
the same with the two Blue ?
Can I also cut and just CAP OFF the two green wires.

The reason I ask is the PO cut and made his splices with in one inch of the various bike connectors, leaving no room to undo his work. I can not even find where the green stripe wire connects it is buried so far un in there. . .

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RED or ORANGE is Left brake
Blue is Right brake
Solid green is Ground
Green w/ yellow stripe is the power

If that is right, I can cut and connect the two Red together,
the same with the two Blue ?
Can I also cut and just CAP OFF the two green wires.

The reason I ask is the PO cut and made his splices with in one inch of the various bike connectors, leaving no room to undo his work. I can not even find where the green stripe wire connects it is buried so far un in there. . .

To me, this says that the green/yellow (incoming brake power) should be connected to the red and blue wires, which will feed the brake power directly to the lights. The only unused wire is the solid green (ground).

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Don't know if this will help or not. When you say 'wig-wag' flasher, do you actually mean that ? Or, do you just have a brake light flasher ? A wig-wag actually alternates the flashing brake lights from left to right as it operates. I had a brake light flasher on my 97 when I got it. The label was still legible, and I was able to track down what was probably the only remaining instruction book in the world, directly from a really helpful guy at J&M, which was the brand of my flasher. It failed, thus necessitating the replacement, and my search for the old wiring setup. So, I no longer have the device, to tell if it is the same as yours. But my recollection is that it looked VERY similar to your module. With these instructions, and the actual device in hand, I was able to decipher which wires belonged to which, and wire in a new Back-Off device. BTW, the correct wiring method for the original device was to use the supplied wiring harness that plugged into to the OEM connectors. The J&M device is no longer made, and hasn't been for a LONG time.

Yeah, it is a wig wag, flashes side to side for a number of times then goes solid until I let off the brake and "reset it" . Mine was wired to JUST the trunk lights, which I liked, but it has died, so off it goes ! Lol mine was a cut and distroy install, no OEM plug type set up, so I doubt it was a J&M unit.

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