You do want to data log the tune. Reason being that no two cars are the same. Yours could like a slightly richer lambda or the knock threshold could be off a few degrees. The point is there is no way the tuner you choose will get everything right for your car without atleast a little bit of logging. Shaun will most definitely go over that with you.

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I read that Shaun turn's down like 75 percent of 2014's because of Knock sensors? I have a 2014 so not sure what is going to happen if I tell Shaun I have a '14

I read that Shaun turn's down like 75 percent of 2014's because of Knock sensors? I have a 2014 so not sure what is going to happen if I tell Shaun I have a '14

Well you could ask him to not modify the knock sensors. The worst that could happen is the knock sensors will register false knock and pull timing. You may or may not feel that driving around. Your car already does this from the factory. It starts to matter more the closer you get to where knock is more likely to occur.

Well you could ask him to not modify the knock sensors. The worst that could happen is the knock sensors will register false knock and pull timing. You may or may not feel that driving around. Your car already does this from the factory. It starts to matter more the closer you get to where knock is more likely to occur.

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Oh ok. I'll let him know and see what he says tomorrow. Still considering bama because many people seem to love them and say the performance really is there with the bama tunes. Still deciding though.

I was in fact looking at the pro cal for a while. Then I read more and more and didn't want to risk the pinging that is causes. A lot of people went from the pro cal to the bama tune and were a lot happier with the bama. And they are around the same price, so why not go with the bama tuner. Also, I'm pretty sure bama has a 3yr/36k warranty when you get a tune from them.

At least in my case, and burning 91 octane, I've yet to hear any pinging. I've had that tune in there at least a year now.

Yeah, but I just dont want to risk it. And I read that the pro cal isn't that impressive with increasing power. Except in the 1500 rpm range. Not sure if it's true but that's what I read.

I think the Pro-Cal tune is more about driveability improvement with a mild performance increase than about monster power. That's probably why you can keep your warranty with it. It sure makes the car a pleasure to drive compared to stock tune. They should make this tune standard.

How do you like his tune? Big power increase? Is it nice to drive for daily? I might pull the trigger for one of his tunes this winter

On the dyno sheet, it shows a gain, but I didn't think it was a huge gain like some express here on the forum. Honestly, I was a little disappointed with the outcome. Don't get me wrong, the tune is as smooth as glass and the drivability is better than stock. The power increase just want as big as I wish it was.

I would not run the drag tune from shaun all the time lol...it turns off traction control and advance traction, so ur more likely to go sliding into a wall if u have to make some quick maneuvers on the highway.

I would not run the drag tune from shaun all the time lol...it turns off traction control and advance traction, so ur more likely to go sliding into a wall if u have to make some quick maneuvers on the highway.

I knew better than to look for big numbers. I was looking for more than marginal however. Like I said, the tune is smooth, but how it is described on here as changing the car drastically, to me is an overstatement.

To me the car changed drastically..every car is different, it depends how good or bad your previous tune was. For me, bama tune was sluggish low end and with aed its power from the moment I put my foot down. That's just power, not the only thing that matters. It is safe, reliable and smooth for a daily driver.

Maybe I need to drive a stock GT once again so I can fully appreciate my car and it's tune. My problem is that I modified two cars at the same time. As I added parts and a tune to my GT, I was also adding parts to my Focus ST. With the parts and tune I added to my ST, it added over 25hp and 90 foot pounds of torque. That's a big difference you can feel.

How do you like his tune? Big power increase? Is it nice to drive for daily? I might pull the trigger for one of his tunes this winter

I really recommend you do some research into what tuning your car will actually do for you. With your car stock, you are not going to see much of a power increase in the sense of numbers. I'd be surprised to see more than a 20hp increase. Without a power adder there is not much you can do to change/improve VE (volumetric efficiency) therefore, like what the pro cal does, you are going to be changing the drivability of the car to your liking. You may see increased torque in the low end and because the threshold to WOT may be tweaked you could feel the throttle respond a bit better. Unless you add cams, or, supercharger or turbocharger you will not see a "large power increase"

Maybe I need to drive a stock GT once again so I can fully appreciate my car and it's tune. My problem is that I modified two cars at the same time. As I added parts and a tune to my GT, I was also adding parts to my Focus ST. With the parts and tune I added to my ST, it added over 25hp and 90 foot pounds of torque. That's a big difference you can feel.

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You think it's worth the price? Shaun said its a night and day difference between stock and his tune. But you are saying you can't really feel too much.

You think it's worth the price? Shaun said its a night and day difference between stock and his tune. But you are saying you can't really feel too much.

Because I did a catless mid pipe, a tune was necessary. If someone is on the fence about the pros and cons of running a tune or keeping your warranty, I would stay stock. I have owned and modified many cars, and to me, by the seat of my pants had only a small difference. Don't get me wrong, I know I gained power, but not enough where I went, "this is a completely different car."

If you have the right amount of supporting mods. For me, a tune, catless h pipe and a catback didnt provide huge gains. If you add a header and an intake manifold, maybe so.

I am merely providing my perspective on how much a tune and simple bolt ons change the car. My advice is neither crap nor law. Take it as you wish.

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Well i don't think just a tune with completely change the car. I'm aware of that also. I'm not looking for drastic changes but some changes you know. I think I'm going to go with AED in a month or so. Just need a tuner now.