Campbell perceives, we’re told, that Gradkowski actively has lobbied quarterbacks coach Paul Hackett, who worked with Gradkowski in Tampa, to give Gradlowski a chance to play.

Gradkowski got that chance on Sunday, and he made the most of it in a come-from-behind win over the Rams.

Whether Campbell’s perception is accurate doesn’t matter. It’s the kind of thing that could create trouble between the two quarterbacks, sparking an atmosphere much different than the whole Warner Brothers polite gophers vibe in Philly. It also could, as other situations like this have done, spread to the locker room.

In Oakland, the potential dysfunction arguably wouldn’t even qualify as typical dysfunction. But dysfunction it still is, and it comes at a time when the Raiders supposedly had found an answer at the quarterback position.

The challenge for Cable will be to come up with a way to contain the situation before it becomes a problem. And it likely will require an approach far more subtle than accidentally breaking someone’s jaw.
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QB Platoon. 8 O lineman and two receivers (running 9s) when Campbell is in, and um, a regular offense when Grads is in?

mistic1

# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 10:51 am

mistic1
While the rest of us were watching the game through unbiased Raider Fan eyes, what were you indulging in. The players played harder for Grads. Just a fact. Made his reads, Campbell didn’t. McFadden ran harder because the Rams respected Grads more and opened up running lanes to defend the pass. (not well,lol)Lastly, the Raider’s and Cable (whom I want fired)can not wait until midseason for Campbell to get it. WIN NOW!
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This is exactly what i am talking about.

Players didnt play harder. The defense gave up one td in the first half and one in the second (after grads interception). The execution was alittle better on offense, because the play calling was adjusted!!! Shorter throws equal quicker reads!!! Bruce benefited from the playcalling change, one becuase the o-line couldnt hold the blocks, two bruce doesnt have the arm to throw it deeper!!!!

Dmac didnt run harder for grads!!! He only got 10 carries in the first half. DMAC will always do his most damage in the second half, becuase he has pounded them in the first, and they have been chasing our wideouts all over the feild!! This is why they say great backs get better as the game goes on. That has nothing to do with grads.

Yes we can wait until mid season for campbell to find a the timing. THIS TEAM IS NOT A PLAYOFF TEAM, WE ARE CLOSER TO THE BOTTOM THAN WE ARE TO THE MIDDLE OF THE PACK. IN THIS SITUATION YOU PLAY THE GUYS WITH THE MOST UPSIDE, GIVING GAME REPS AND BUILDING CHEMISTRY!! SO NEXT YEAR WHEN YOU ADD MORE PEICES YOU ALREADY HAVE A NUCLEUS OF LEADERS IN A DEFINED ROLL. WE AND CAMPBELL CAN WAIT UNTIL MID SEASON… CABLE CAN NOT!! PULLING CAMPBELL PUT CABLES JOB SECURITY AHEAD OF WHATS BEST FOR THE TEAM!!! fIRE HIM NOW!!!

aig-raiders

To SnB’s credit,

He did man up and apologized. He didnt have to apologize. All I wanted him to do was admit that BG as better than JC and he did.

1.) Campbell needs game reps to build timing and rythym with the offense. He has a much higher ceiling than grads, therefore you need to play him so he may reach it. Bruce is a known commodity he is not good enough to take you anywhere in the long run.

2.) you have undermined any trust that you have built with your team leadres. All of the talk about riding it out, fighting through it together, and being pesrstint went out the window. As soon as cable thought the team might lose because his o-line wasnt getting the job done he attempted to shift blame to the qb. Class act cable.

3.) you are forcing the players to choose sides, or at the very least youve caused a distraction that players now must deal with as they will be constantly badgered about for the near future, its only week 3!!!!

4.) You have now placed yourself before the organiztion. Davis likes coaches to stay down and coach the team, not be lightning rods for controversy. Once again cable the headlines are about you, and not for possitive reasons. Lets just can this dude already

Just Fire Baby

Ray,

I’m bringing my ball an…er wife along.

There is tons of shopping in Westgate!!

She even scorned me and got a McFadden #20 jersey for the event (a pink one; clearly she did not consult with me on this one)

LA to TheBay

Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 11:22 am
6 sacks, 4 fumbles and 2 int’s , and 16 points from Campbell in six f’n quarters, but people want us to be patient.

0 sacks, zero fumbles, 1 int, 13 points in 2 quarters from Bruce.

Why are we even discussing this?

Next topic please!!!
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For real.

It’s not as if Campbell is some rookie that we want to wait on to develop. He’s been around for years. Redskins fans were jumping for joy when they got rid of the guy.

OK, he’s been in 8 different systems. OK, lots of different OCs. Bad O Line? Fine. Just the wrong fit in DC? Sure. Maybe once he builds a chemistry with this team and is more comfortable with the system….

Really?? We can make all kinds of excuses for the guy but he just had his job took.

Forget what he’s done in someone else’s uniform, when Bruce is in Silver and Black, he makes plays.

Campbell hasn’t made plays since Auburn.

LA to TheBay

RaiderRockstar Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 11:27 am
What else does he have to do?

How is a guy with only 20 career starts a known commodity, while the guy with over 50 career starts needs time due to his “higher ceiling”.

They are both known commodities!!!

Bruce is a great backup looking for another chance, Campbell is a crappy starter running out of chances.

Enough already.

bcz24

How ’bout DHB making a case to be an actual NFL receiver… he nearly doubled his career in one half!

RaiderRockstar

I was Oaktown last week so the wifee will be like ” You just went to a game, why do you need to go again!”
All who are married, know exactly what I’m talking about!

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LOL @ ray

yup – been there quite often!

my wife got mad at me on Saturday because we had rented a movie and got a Degiorno pizza for lunch, but HER brother called and asked if I could go down to the river and help him put his cabin on blocks. I skipped lunch and spent ALL friggin day helping him dig gravel, dirt and move cement blocks. we got finished just before dark and when I got home she was p1ssed because she had to be bored at home while I was away.

I said “YOUR brother needed MY help”. haha. oh well, chalk it up to pregnant hormones I guess

LA to TheBay

Mistic, Cable’s best moves BY FAR as head coach have been to bench the owner’s lost cause tall, big-armed quarterback.

Campbell just happens to be a nicer guy and can put sentences together.

I’m sure the team is behind Grad. The only reason Campbell got the job anyway was because 1. Bruce was injured and 2. he’s a pet project.

Why are we waiting for this guy to develop and reach his ceiling when we have a developed guy on the roster who ALREADY HAS a chemistry with the team?

In other words, you’re saying:

Well Jason has a higher ceiling because, um… he’s taller with a bigger arm. So let’s start him despite the ineffectiveness over the guy who is already playing well.

Again, Nation, Campbell is not a rookie.

He doesn’t have the vision by now, doubt he ever will.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skew-t/166654980/ BART Bridge Blues

Gradkowski 11-22-1-162 = 7.36 ypa
J.Campbell 8-15-1-87 = 5.8 ypa

that’s the difference, Grads moved the chains. They shortened up the routes for him, but he still managed a much higher yards per attempt. (Bradford was throwing 6.68 yards per attempt as a reference point).

You guys are goofy. BOTH quarterbacks are pretty servicable, and by playing each we are just improving our odds that one of them will take the reins and become great.

Like I ytped earlier, Campbell must react well to this lesson and play better because Gradkowski is likely to continue getting it done.

In no way is this going to divide the locker room. Cable handled the JRuss situation and kept the team unified. He will make sure the players know that QB is open for competition just like every other non-kicking spot.

mistic1

# Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 11:22 am

6 sacks, 4 fumbles and 2 int’s , and 16 points from Campbell in six f’n quarters, but people want us to be patient.

1 bad snap 2 strip sacks from the blind side.
6 sacks due to terrible o-line play.
Interceptions are likley as a new qb is learning the system and and timing with his team.

Bruce HAD THREE MORE PASSES THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PICKED. 1 WAS IN THE ENDZONE RIGHT BEFORE HIS TOUCHDOWN PASS!!!!! HIS INTERCEPTION LET THE LAMBS BACK INTO THE GAME IN THE FOURTH QUARTER!!!!

i know people dont like campbell ( eventhough most people are basing it on news clippings from a different state, and 6 quarters of football) but if anyone thinks bruce is the answer, you just dont know football.

Bruce isnt even a poor mans flutie, or jeff garcia. he surprised a couple fo teams last year. Beleive me when teams get in the film room this year and gameplan against him he will be a disaster. Gruden kept tui around for years, we all know tui was terrible. gruden felt he could develop him. Grads was drafted by gruden and washed out!!!! What does that tell you.

Bottom line is grads is as good as he is going to be in this offense, he is maxed out already, and it is not good enough!!!

campbell on the other hand has room to grow here, he needs more time.

Yes you should be patient, if anyone here is expecting more than 6-8 wins this year your fooling yourself. 6-8 win teams should focus on playing the talent with upside and building for next year!!!

2sense

Ha. Locker room rifts. Quarterback controversy. Blah blah blah. How many times does Jerry need to tell you fools that it all comes down to winning. It makes no difference NOW what decision Cable makes because the correct decision will only be perceived as such after Oakland wins or loses their next few games.

You cannot deny that Campbell looks flat and that the team has no rhythm whatsoever when he’s in the game. He is missing throws and checking down almost constantly. To best put it…he looks very UNCOMFORTABLE. Considering the O line I don’t blame him. Critics have said that Campbell is not suited for quick throws and reads. They have said that repeatedly since his tenure in Washington. That would be an offensive style more suited for Bruce.

I hate to tell you nation but that O Line cannot protect five and seven step drops. They are bad. Maybe the worst I’ve seen in pass protecting ever. If this team wants to avoid drive and momentum killing sacks, three and outs, and penalties then whoever’s under center better be able to throw to a receiver before he breaks on his pattern. Until Campbell can prove he can do that and build that trust with these younger WR’s I say give Bruce the keys.

2sense

Florio and Mystic,

Don’t be idiots. Selfish act. Wake up. There is no long term in the NFL. This fan base has been enduring garbage football for a long, long time and this team needs to learn how to win. PERIOD. Campbell wants his job he needs to get off his ass and start producing period.

2sense

and if you’re comparing dropped interceptions. add in the three huge drops by Miller, Myers, and, DHB. All that killed drives in St. Louis territory.

UCSBPreMedMike

I was watching the interview clip of DHB on Raiders.com and it looks like he has a slightly lazy eye. Now, I’m not talking down on this congenital condition, but I wonder if this has given him problems with locking in on the ball at the ‘NFL speed.’

If so, it looks like he’s learning how to deal with it, and we should have been initially more understanding-a rookie with a correctable visual disturbance.

djohnnyg

“and it is not good enough!!!”

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It WAS good enough to win on Sunday and that’s more than Jason Campbell’s been able to do; in Washington OR Oakland.

djohnnyg

The Big Banana Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 10:38 am
Updated list – priesttj has been elevated as well as I remember him being pretty hard on Grads when JaMeatLoaf was around. RR – you’re moving down the list buddy. Step up your game. lol

Get Micheal Vick. We need a fjrst rate quarterback instead of these posers. Vick has everthing this Raider team needs to be a first rate team instead of maybe next year or we are missing one or two key players. Offense sucks because QB sucks. Now we are baving a QB contravercy over these second rate QB. give me a break. When Vick came out of prison, this was the guy I wish tbe Raider would have picked up. Be will make things happen. Al if you want to right this ship, Micbeal Vick is the one piece you need. Vick can stretch the field. GET VICK – DO THE RIGHT THING