Skullz wrote Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:56 pm:Lol... I like you but this post is wrong and irresponsible on so many levels. The only thing you got right is the “I don’t know, I’m not in his pockets” part. And yes he will get paid.

As I said, I am not sure if this has anything to do with Mack and it probably doesn't but many of those statements were fact. Cant use team as collateral(I know there are other ways to secure money though).Rank 32 in league revenue. 47ish percent ownership of team(might be less now actually). Also again fact that this topic has been brought up by people in the NFL. Whats up for debate would be how much money he will bring in with new stadium/naming rights etc vs all the costs associated with building it etc.

Reggie and co have been talking for years how they been planning for this day yet here we are in the middle of a holdout. When you have a player of Mack's magnitude, the result will be a market setting contract. Thats how it works 99 percent of the time. Even more so when there is another one waiting for the other(Donald).

The AzzAzzin wrote Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:08 pm:As I said, I am not sure if this has anything to do with Mack and it probably doesn't but many of those statements were fact. Cant use team as collateral(I know there are other ways to secure money though).Rank 32 in league revenue. 47ish percent ownership of team(might be less now actually). Also again fact that this topic has been brought up by people in the NFL. Whats up for debate would be how much money he will bring in with new stadium/naming rights etc vs all the costs associated with building it etc.

Reggie and co have been talking for years how they been planning for this day yet here we are in the middle of a holdout. When you have a player of Mack's magnitude, the result will be a market setting contract. Thats how it works 99 percent of the time. Even more so when there is another one waiting for the other(Donald).

coogi wrote Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:42 pm:Lol mack aint missing any games...he has no leverage unless you call retirement leverage...this will be the most hes made of any season so he is not going to skip a game check...

the preseason games count in his salary/games checks. so he's already missed one game check which cost him $800,000. And Reggie can't waive that preseason game like he can waive regular fines for training camp and practices etc. So we will see if he misses another game check and another $800,000 on Saturday.thats a lot of fvcking money to lose.

Anyone know if unpaid game checks get deducted from the salary cap for preseason or regular season games.

looks like mack will be paying some of our lower end players salary..... Thanks Mack

LaRaider2010 wrote Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:40 pm:the preseason games count in his salary/games checks. so he's already missed one game check which cost him $800,000. And Reggie can't waive that preseason game like he can waive regular fines for training camp and practices etc. So we will see if he misses another game check and another $800,000 on Saturday.thats a lot of fvcking money to lose.

Anyone know if unpaid game checks get deducted from the salary cap for preseason or regular season games.

looks like mack will be paying some of our lower end players salary..... Thanks Mack

I dont think it works like that. This is what happened with Penn last year and he didnt get fined a dime afterward. Its at the teams discretion and unless the relationship is really bad, its likely Mack wont get fined anything in the end.

LaRaider2010 wrote Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:40 pm:the preseason games count in his salary/games checks. so he's already missed one game check which cost him $800,000. And Reggie can't waive that preseason game like he can waive regular fines for training camp and practices etc. So we will see if he misses another game check and another $800,000 on Saturday.thats a lot of fvcking money to lose.

Anyone know if unpaid game checks get deducted from the salary cap for preseason or regular season games.

looks like mack will be paying some of our lower end players salary..... Thanks Mack

deathstar wrote Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:51 pm:Mack has almost nothing to lose by not reporting to camp, he really won't be fined and has a chance to double his income.

He does have almost everything to lose... he's going to start losing game checks, his failure to report could cause the Raiders to pay him his current salary without an extension then franchise him the next two seasons... he's got a lot to lose and a lot to gain, the question is which one will he choose?

The AzzAzzin wrote Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:08 pm:As I said, I am not sure if this has anything to do with Mack and it probably doesn't but many of those statements were fact. Cant use team as collateral(I know there are other ways to secure money though).Rank 32 in league revenue. 47ish percent ownership of team(might be less now actually). Also again fact that this topic has been brought up by people in the NFL. Whats up for debate would be how much money he will bring in with new stadium/naming rights etc vs all the costs associated with building it etc.

Reggie and co have been talking for years how they been planning for this day yet here we are in the middle of a holdout. When you have a player of Mack's magnitude, the result will be a market setting contract. Thats how it works 99 percent of the time. Even more so when there is another one waiting for the other(Donald).

Getting a line of credit for 5% or so of the value of your business without actually using the business as collateral should be quite easy. The payments, which would be something in the order of $5 million a year or less, would easily covered out of cash flow.

I think we are getting to that point where this thing will get pushed to next year and Mack will have to play on his present contract. Looks like RM refuses to negotiate with players who holdout - and don't blame him. Hoping once Mack shows up that Mack, the team, the coaching staff can put this whole damn thing on a shelf somewhere and forget about it for a year and simply get down to playing football. Next year RM and Mack's agent can go back at it hopefully get something that works for everyone before the franchise tag has to be used.

Jeevo wrote Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:48 am:Getting a line of credit for 5% or so of the value of your business without actually using the business as collateral should be quite easy. The payments, which would be something in the order of $5 million a year or less, would easily covered out of cash flow.

So what is the collateral? Generally speaking, loans are given based upon profit and not worth.