Alpha Male Cage Match

Enough of the betas and herbs for a change. It’s time for some positive role models.

Two alpha males. One caged ring. No holds barred. Who will emerge victorious, King of The Alphas?

In this corner…

…we have Silvio Berlusconi, 72 year old rightist Italian Prime Minister who cavorts with 18 year old Italian models, publicly tells his wife she should apologize after she finds out about his numerous liaisons and begins filing divorce proceedings…

Asked if there was any chance of saving his marriage, the prime minister said: “I don’t think so. I don’t know if I want that this time. Veronica will have to apologise to me publicly. And I don’t know if it would be enough.

“It’s the third time in an election campaign that she has pulled a stunt of this kind. It really is too much.”

…, GETS DEFENDED BY HIS KIDS when their Dad’s hedonist lifestyle is brought to light…

[The] leader of the opposition Democratic Party, Dario Franceschini, asked Italians at a European Parliament election rally: “Would you want your children brought up by this man?”The question provoked a furious response from Mr Berlusconi’s children, who have rarely made public statements in the past.

“Angry?” asked Marina, [Berlusconi’s] eldest daughter from his first marriage and chairman of publisher Mondadori, in an interview for Corriere della Sera.

“I am indignant. Furious. No, this is enough. This time, I don’t intend to stay silent. My father has always worked a lot, but there has never been a time, a single time, in which I did not have him near when I needed him.”

Berlusconi said he had dropped in on the birthday party of Noemi Letizia [18 year old Italian model] because her father, a council employee, was a “friend of many years”. Asked why she called him papi, he replied: “But it’s a joke. They wanted to call me granddad. It’s better they call me daddy, don’t you think?”

The prime minister said three pretty young women whose candidacies were revoked after Lario’s letter were not showgirls. One was an actress, he said.

An apex alpha male like Silvio should not be punished for enjoying the fruits of the women who love him, just as an apex alpha female should not be punished for securing commitment from an incorrigible playboy alpha male. High five, Silvio. You are an inspiration for men everywhere. May the betas of the world learn from your example.

PS: My maternal grandfather was a spitting image of Berlusconi.

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And in this corner…

we have the upstart American 72 year old H. Beatty Chadwick, a Pennsylvania lawyer who spent 14 years in jail in a civil contempt case *without ever being charged* for refusing to cough up 2.5 million in extortion alimony to the world’s filthiest scumcunt bitch ex-wife ever.

One can spend a long time in jail in the U.S. without ever being charged with a crime.

It happened to H. Beatty Chadwick, a former Philadelphia-area lawyer, who has been behind bars for nearly 14 years without being charged. And this didn’t take place in some 3rd world dictatorship or tyrannical government like China or Iran it was done right here in the U.S.

No trial ever took place, Chadwick has never been allowed to face his accuser and no jury ever heard any evidence against him.

In 1994, during his divorce proceedings, a Delaware County judge (yes a county Judge) held Mr. Chadwick in civil contempt for failing to put $2.5 million in a court-controlled account. He says he lost the money in bad investments; his wife’s attorney claimed he had hidden it offshore. In April 1995, Mr. Chadwick was arrested and detained. Nearly 14 years later, Mr. Chadwick, who suffers from non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma, is still in jail — even after a retired judge was hired to help locate the money, and failed.

I’m sure Chadwick is lying about the whereabouts of his pile of loot, and I say GOOD SHOW OLD CHAP! Deny that ballcutting soulsucking bitch anything of your life’s hard work and sacrifice. Lie like the wind. If there was ever any question by the milquetoast-y herbs and self-serving fembots among us whether lying before the law can be the morally right thing to do, this case should settle the matter.

Just how corrosively amoral is the soul of woman? Remember: Chadwick’s ex-wife was perfectly content letting him rot in jail for years on end in a blackmail bid to pry HIS OWN MONEY from his hands. It was in her power to end his torment any time she wanted. But she didn’t. That should tell you all you need to know about the blackened core beating in almost every woman’s heart when her interest is on the line and the love is gone.

Here is a photo of the loving couple back in happier times:

Can you tell just by looking at her what monstrous evil she would eventually rain down on the man she once loved? No. So you must do the smart thing and assume every woman, given the right incentives, is capable of similar evil.

MEN: DO NOT GET MARRIED. You have been warned. You can get all the benefits of a good marriage in a loving, UNMARRIED relationship with none of the risks of jail or paying through the nose for a lifetime retirement plan for your ex-wife. Until the laws change radically (and I have my doubts this will ever happen absent some sort of SWPL-redneck style civil war), you are better off staying far away from the altar.

This case is so egregiously unjust… so EVIL… that Chadwick has thousands of supporters to his cause and a website dedicated to his freedom and to uncovering the raw sewage that permeates the misandrist divorce industrial complex from top to bottom.

H. Beatty Chadwick is a hero with a warrior’s heart. He is a foot soldier in the long war against the criminalization of our court systems by power hungry degenerate feminists and their lowlife parasitic accomplices. Men like him should be honored with statues and parades, and his enemies shamed into removing themselves from public life entirely, and preferably from life altogether. Here’s to hoping Chadwick’s ex-wife either shoves a gun barrel through her pursed WASP lips, or gets run over by a dumptruck with a rubber scrotum hanging from the back.

H. Beatty Chadwick: Hero to all American men, defender of the just and noble, heart of lion. He joins company with this man.

Tell your boys the story of these alpha heroes in the time of Western decline, and if fortune and fate should shine their stirring legacy will forge a new generation’s hearts in steel to fight for their beloved country and rescue it from the twisted, invidious forces of traitorous elites and SWPL saboteurs who through their actions would cause nothing less than to bend America to Her knees, stripped of all that was once good about Her. Si se puede.

14 years on a contempt order? That judge needs to be impeached and given 14 years. His ordeal is so vile, it just takes a few minutes to take it all in. At least convicted criminals get appeals and so forth. And I am fuzzy on this area of the law, but I don’t know if the governor could pardon him.

When I posted this on my Facebook page along with a comment that, whether you’re married or not, a guy needs to get a PD test when the baby’s born, I got a bunch of negative responses from my female friends saying I was wrong to say that, ignorant, disrespectful, and not married because of this reason.

Gentlemen . . . a woman in a divorce will take your life away like demon from hell. And the divorce-industry-complex and your beta brothers will let it happen.

You have been warned. You can get all the benefits of a good marriage in a loving, UNMARRIED relationship with none of the risks of jail or paying through the nose for a lifetime retirement plan for your ex-wife.

The problem with this is :

1) Palimony (while less than alimony) does exist as a risk.
2) What about the man who wants to have kids? You can’t avoid child support simply by not being married to the woman, nor should you have kids with a woman who would have them outside of marriage (despite how corrupt the divorce industry is).

For me, having my own kids is one of the premier aspirations of my life. Now, reading this, I think I have to suspend that aspiration.

When a nation is denying law-abiding, successful men the right to have kids without worrying about jailtime, then that nation does not deserve to be saved.

Before he died, I was in business with a penthouse-dwelling, Milanese real estate developer. During the Torino Olympics his name came up often as I pestered him with all sorts of Olympiad questions, as I am the only Olympics fan in the US. He always referred to Berlusconi as “our bald and hairless this or that” and I surmise it another loopy, cryptic Italian insult. His English, was surprisingly bad for one of his status; but, he grew up poor.

Perhaps he was a competitor. I just wikied him.

Italians pay massive lip-service to Catholicism and marriage. They’re just jealous they can’t fuck hot bitches like Silvio. He was very wealthy even before he had the powa.

Women will sit on any age of dick, provided it’s propped up with adequate snatch-bait.

Silvio, by a mile. The only strike against him is his youth as a singer on cruise ships- the cheesiest profession imaginable. The lawyer has toughness, and looks fairly alpha in the pic, but we don’t really know anything else about him. Might be cranky or weird.

@FP- you’re not the only Olympics fan in the U.S. I watch them every time they come on.

””””””””Tell your boys the story of these alpha heroes in the time of Western decline, and if fortune and fate should shine their stirring legacy will forge a new generation’s hearts in steel to fight for their beloved country and rescue it from the twisted, invidious forces of traitorous elites and SWPL saboteurs who through their actions would cause nothing less than to bend America to Her knees, stripped of all that was once good about Her. Si se puede.”””””””””””

Roissy you are the man. Need to put a paypal up or some shit so we can give back.

One, that Tood’s question is quite poignant-what’s a good guy to do if he wants kids in our day and age? I don’t know if this is the right thing to say, but the answer seems to be: Bun ‘n’ Run-spread your seed and hope for the best, and that you won’t be hauled off into court either.

Failing that, there’s Game-if you have enough of it, you can be reasonably sure you won’t be hauled off into court. Of course, it all depends on how solid one’s Game is, and whether you’re built for the long haul.

Then there’s the Surrogate Mommy option, much like the late Michael Jackson and Ricky Martin have done. Of course, you’d need major bank to do that, and I think its safe to say that most guys in today’s economy are rolling phat like that. Besides, as the Jackson case shows, you still may wind up paying the birth mommy anyway, simply because…well, she’s the birth mommy. Hmm.

So, aside from adoption, where you can do it completely alone, I really don’t know what the answer is here. Maybe someone else has some ideas?

And two, I’m not so sure we should attempt to follow Berlusconi’s example to the letter. Keep in mind please, that he’s one of the most powerful, wealthy and influential Men in the world-very, very few guys will ever come close to such status, wealth or success. I do agree that he serves as a kind of example of what *can* be done, but I wouldn’t take it much past that. Gotta keep a sense of perspective here.

My own sense of things is that its better if the average guy in our society has enough Game to keep him from being eaten up in the meat grinder. If he can get the basics down pat, stick to the fundamentals, keep a positive, strong frame and execute consistently, he should do fine.

@FP- you’re not the only Olympics fan in the U.S. I watch them every time they come on.

haha – they’re great. Some of the best sport competition ever. i watch them all. I mean ALL. Even the 2006 Italian Women’s contingent, when they marched into the stadium in their silver coats, were remarkably hot for athletes as compared to the horsetoothed thicknecks we fielded. I’m getting a bigger hdtv just for 2010.

neway.

deciding between the alpha candidates is deciding between which projects alpha better – the one in duress, or the other in splendor. Like comparing Patton to a hand to hand combat GI.

Have you any direct experience with this? Why will an employer pay your FLP instead of you? What stops the ex-wife from simply demanding payroll records from your employer? Is there ANY way to avoid the child-support = alimony nightmare?

Right now in countless corporate HR departments across the land, the (largely female) HR staffers are feverishly garnishing male salaries at the behest of court orders resulting from divorce. So no, I don’t see how you’re going to get out of it unless you work completely off the grid, for cash.

I know a guy who moved all his assets to Costa Rica and then went and lived there himself in order to deny money to his ex-wife (and yeah, they had kids) but few men have the strength to execute such a plan.

For me, having my own kids is one of the premier aspirations of my life. Now, reading this, I think I have to suspend that aspiration.

Nah, man. Just find the right women and STAY ALPHA even after you are married.

“MEN: DO NOT GET MARRIED. You have been warned. You can get all the benefits of a good marriage in a loving, UNMARRIED relationship with none of the risks of jail or paying through the nose for a lifetime retirement plan for your ex-wife.”

I agree with this, provided you are dating a woman from your own country. However, in yesterday’s post, Roissy extolled the virtues of foreign women for long-term relationships. I wholeheartedly agree. But therein lies the problem: to be able to maintain that relationship, it may be necessary to get marrried. That’s what I did. We did get a prenup (she didn’t object…in fact, she thought it was as important as I did). We’ve been together for 13 years (10 of them married). We don’t have children (I don’t want them). And it helps that we share unconventional, perhaps un-American, views about marriage (for example, she understands male sexual infidelity and puts up with mine). And no, she is not a barefoot and helpless immigrant…..she has a master’s degree and an interesting, well-paying job in DC. I do warn my male friends against marriage for the same reasons Roissy does, but really, I can’t complain about my own.

ANYONE could be Berlusconi if they were immensely rich and politically powerful. A little media pressure for a countryside of dripping young pussy? The choice is too easy.

Not really that easy. Look at our guys. Most American politicians are total pussies about using their power to get fresh young poon. They either underachieve like Clinton with his big-haired Lewinsky or Sanford with his old-ass broad. Then when they get caught they simper, grovel or cry. Or worse, they’re like Obama and remain loyal to a manly chick. American politicians = subpar poon and crying when caught. Silvio Berlusconi = top-notch poon and defiant when caught.

Hence, the problem presents itself. All of those choices are either expensive (donor egg + surrogate), or they are tough (adopting as a single man).

Perhaps getting married with a pre-nup + Game expertise is still the best bet.

But the fact that a man has to fear both imprisonment and impoverishment through no fault of his own, will cause men to reach the breaking point.

I went from being an everyday man who expected to have a normal family with kids, to being a man who practices Game while simulataneously cheering on anything and everything that will hurt feminists, from Islam to sex technologies to urban violence against single women.

If I have migrated this far, I am sure there are millions of other men like me.

Women, of course, are too stupid to be astute observers of the bitterness they are cultivating. The ‘mancession’ will accelerate this.

I knew something else was going on….take another look at this pic of Chadwick and his wife….take a look at the dude next to the wife…..is that a pimp about to slap a hoe? i think it is. explains a lot.

Even with some American politicians’ pitiful record when deling with this situation, the fact remains that one situation is a lot easier to embrace then the other.

A gun is to your head. You have to bet your life. You can either bet it on a elderly millionaire politician having sex with a young model, or a man staying in jail for 14 years on principle. Which one do you bet on?

Tood,
Yea, it is kinda depressing, and I too think the Mancession will bring about some really bad things, stuff we haven’t seen on such a large scale before. Nor do I see this Mancession ending anytime soon; it may take the whole of Obama’s presidency to even begin to get a handle on things, assuming his programs work at all.

Lastly: as an Indian ex pat Male, I anted to ask you-what’s the 411 for Men like yourself? From where I sit, Indian ex pat Women don’t seem that far from their American sisters. Take Lovely Sexy Beauty, FeministX and so on-these are Americanized Indian Women who truly do want the best of both worlds, and from what I can tell, leaves many Indian guys out in the cold.

But maybe I’m reading things all wrong? Could you please explain? Thanks.

1) Palimony (while less than alimony) does exist as a risk.
2) What about the man who wants to have kids? You can’t avoid child support

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1) Palimony will not kick in unless you have a live-in relationship with the woman. You can bang without sharing a roof, surprise!. Similarly, if in future there are de-facto relationship laws, simply DTB before the time period is up. Eg. courts state 2 years = de-facto relationship, break up before a year is up.

2) Kids are overrated. Unwant the want. If in doubt, go to a mall this weekend. Ikea is even better. Observe the married men. Note his lifeless, blank stare. Then observe his kids. Noisy brats. Then make mental note/vow to NEVER BE LIKE THAT MAN, IN THAT SITUATION.

And again, to reiterate. Do not marry. A man needs a wife like a fish needs a bicycle. She is not special, she is not you ‘soulmate’, and she will not grow old with you.

Italian is more alpha. Banging hot young girls, rebuking his wife in public, the whole attitude that comes with the “Veronica will have to apologise to me publicly. And I don’t know if it would be enough” statement is pinnacle, imo.

I didn’t see anything about the second guy that gives an indication of his personality. He could just be really stubborn and hate his wife.

Not going to defend the lady or alimony but it’s entirely possible that Mr. Chadwick’s wife has no say in whether he stays in jail or not. Once you’re found in contempt of court, it’s the court that has a beef with you, not the plaintiff. Call her evil all you want but spare some of that attention for the judge as well.

“Kids are overrated. Unwant the want. If in doubt, go to a mall this weekend. Ikea is even better. Observe the married men. Note his lifeless, blank stare. Then observe his kids. Noisy brats. Then make mental note/vow to NEVER BE LIKE THAT MAN, IN THAT SITUATION.”

I agree with you 100 percent.

“A man needs a wife like a fish needs a bicycle. She is not special, she is not you ’soulmate’, and she will not grow old with you.”

I strongly disagree. Once you have felt the deep and unflagging adoration of a woman over several years, you achieve a higher state of knowledge, an understanding of yourself and others that enriches your life in many ways. Maybe such a state is not in the cards for you, but don’t dismiss it outright. Life offers lots of pleasant surprises if you are open to them.

“I’m the universal record-holder for the number of trials in the entire history of man — and also of other creatures who live on other planets.”
— Silvio Berlusconi, at the G8 press conference in Hokkaido – 5 July 2008

Kids are overrated. Unwant the want. If in doubt, go to a mall this weekend. Ikea is even better. Observe the married men. Note his lifeless, blank stare. Then observe his kids. Noisy brats. Then make mental note/vow to NEVER BE LIKE THAT MAN, IN THAT SITUATION.

This is how you feel before you have them – but it’s not how you feel about yours after you have them. (You’ll probably still detest other people’s brats after you have yours, but you’ll be somewhat more sympathetic to the parents when you see them dealing with a yowling toddler.) You may find this hard to believe, but it’s true.

Everything comes in its proper time. There was a time in my life when having kids was unthinkable, but now I kinda wish I’d gotten started on it sooner.

Just how corrosively amoral is the soul of woman? Remember: Chadwick’s ex-wife was perfectly content letting him rot in jail for years on end in a blackmail bid to pry HIS OWN MONEY from his hands. It was in her power to end his torment any time she wanted. But she didn’t. That should tell you all you need to know about the blackened core beating in almost every woman’s heart when her interest is on the line and the love is gone.

I’m under the impression that a court determines how long it holds you in contempt, not the other party. You get held in contempt of court, it’s punishment for refusing to bow to the power of the court. The male Judge here asserting his power via his office over your nominee.

She really might have had nothing to do with the 14 years other than the initial filings and pleadings. (I have no idea if voluntary dismissal would have gotten the judge to drop it.)

”””””””’Backdoor Man,
I strongly disagree. Once you have felt the deep and unflagging adoration of a woman over several years, you achieve a higher state of knowledge, an understanding of yourself and others that enriches your life in many ways. Maybe such a state is not in the cards for you, but don’t dismiss it outright. Life offers lots of pleasant surprises if you are open to them.”””””””””’

That was nice.

Yea if you get married just do gun prenump. Should be ok. If not oh well at least no years and years of bs.

Think about it – at about the same time a black ex football player is getting away with MURDERING his White ex wife, on the other side of the country a rich White man is going to jail for 14 years without a trial for simply not handing over millions of unearned dollars to his undeserving old ex wife.

What does that say about race in America?

I guess Chadwick’s authorized “Hey, But I’m a White man” card got lost in the mail.

Sorry Willie, that dog just won’t hunt. No comparison btw the two cases, and as we all know, we must weigh each case on its own merits, or the lack thereof. So, you can stop hatin’ now.

But I do agree that the Chadwick case was a travesty of justice. I’m just not sure what, if anything, can be done for him. I’m hoping a good place to start is him getting a pardon from the Governor. After that, seeking damages in a civil suit.

I have to vote for Berlusconi, hands down. Look at that fucking grin in the photo op. Priority number one for all alphas is enjoy fucking life and that guy is having a blast, banging 18 year olds in his 70s. I admire Chadwick’s principles but the only pussy he’s getting is in his dreams while he sleeps in his jail cell.

Does the former Mrs. Chadwick actually have a tattoo on her decolletage … in a photo dating from the late 80s? Who got boob tattoos in the 80s? Who gets boob tattoos at all? I think that sort of evil is actually easy to spot. Women who mutilate themselves with tattoos and piercings are obviously worse people than those who don’t.

The problem is that if a man gets a surrogate mother, or adopts, he is still a single parent. Even if the grandparents (man’s parents) are around to help out, the kids will go to school getting asked “Who is your mommy”, and having to say “I have no Mommy”. This isn’t healthy either.

Indian women : Indian people are incredibly delusional about their morals. They love to point out how the West has high divorce rates and India has a very low (1-2%) divorce rate. However, the SOLE reason for this is that in India, the woman gets no money out of the divorce (not even child support), usually has no income potential of her own, and divorce carries a very high burden of proof before permission is granted (there is no ‘no fault’ concept).

Thus, all of the incentives that make divorce high in the US (financial gains + no fault + lack of stigma) are absent in India. Indians arrogantly assume that this is a stamp of their superior morals and commitment to marriage.

Americanized Indian women are even more immature than SWPL women. Notice the extent to which I held all their feet to the fire. They are extremely vulnerable to SWPL indoctrination, but take only the bad elements while missing whatever good elements may be there.

Indian men with zero game who work in software go to India, get an arranged marriage, and 90% of them do not get divorced. But there is no love – the marriage was arranged. More specifically, it was a ‘job interview’ marriage, where the people met twice and the parents agree to ‘make the trade’. This is still the norm in 2009 in India, partly because of tradition, and partly due to the huge sexual repression/immaturity in Indian society as a whole.

Americanized Indian women are not leaving any Indian guys out in the cold, as these feminist Indian bitches are only 5s and 6s in looks, at best. An Indian man can always get a much better looking Virgin woman from India, who has a much more pleasant/obedient disposition. Of course, after 15 years of living in the West, even the most pure Indian virgin will get corrupted through the US information bombardment. This long-term drift is very hard to predict upon marriage : how can an Indian man predict to what extent an Indian virgin woman, who he only met twice before marriage, will become corrupted by SWPL media after moving to America?

“If you go by the Roissy defination then Berlusconi is the obvious winner.”

this is true.

even if berlusconi was broke, i have a feeling he’d be a ladies’ man. his swagger, confidence, and the expressions on his face indicate that he is alpha. he reminds me of tomas from “the unbearable lightness of being”.

this doesn’t take away from chadwick’s heroism though…i’d say i admire him for his principles moreso than anything berlusconi has done in his life, but women admire the qualities of a man like silvio (money or no money) over the principles of a man like chadwick, and that’s what actually counts.

Tood,
Yea, that’s a damn good question! I don’t know, and the way things appear to be progressing over there, who knows what the endgame might be.

Interesting your take on the Americanized Indian femist types, lol. I wonder what FeministX would have to say about that.

And, I want to encourage you to consider starting up a blog discussing these issues from an Indian ex pat’s Male POV. Most if not all of the blogs I’m aware of wrt Indians are female. It would be great to get the straight dope from the guy’s side.

My own sense of things is that today’s Americanized Indian gal knows she can play both sides of the fence-traditional when she wants it and independent when she doesn’t, and that there doesn’t appear to be much an Indian guy can do about it. Which is truly odd considering that India is home to the Kama Sutra. Wow.

Anymore insights into contemporary Indian would be much appreciated, especially from the male side.

we have the upstart American 72 year old H. Beatty Chadwick, a Pennsylvania lawyer who spent 14 years in jail in a civil contempt case *without ever being charged* for refusing to cough up 2.5 million in extortion alimony

He was jailed for contempt of court. There’s nothing irregular about that, and it’s not a violation of due process. Of course that if you fail to obey a court order, you’ll be jailed until you comply. Otherwise, why would anyone ever comply with the result of an unfavorable verdict? There are indeed cases where feminist influence has eroded men’s due process rights, but this isn’t one of them. The reporter’s remarks in this regard are completely clueless.

Note that this has nothing to do with whether the verdict itself was fair; in fact, I agree that it was scandalously unfair. The contemporary divorce laws indeed all too often result in cases like this one where fortunes are awarded to sociopathically evil golddiggers, often leaving men destitute in the process. Still, getting jailed for contempt doesn’t compare at all with *real* procedural perversions that do away with presumption of innocence and hand out punishments without trial, which, for example, may result from false accusations of domestic violence.

That said, I voted for Berlusconi. Becoming a martyr can have an effect only if a sympathetic media machinery is willing to hype up the story and whip up the moral outrage, which clearly won’t be the case here. This guy has just destroyed himself pointlessly.

Backdoor man: “Once you have felt the deep and unflagging adoration of a woman over several years, you achieve a higher state of knowledge, an understanding of yourself and others that enriches your life in many ways.”

Well, you’ve chosen your moniker well. “Higher state of knowledge?” So, all those soul-dead zombies I see holding their loud, fat wives purses are secret possessors of Yoda like wisdom? You just keep on telling yourself that, sparky!

Understanding of yourself and others; rubbish. I’ve met maybe one or two married men who weren’t completely deluded as to how people work. And they all married into patriarchal cultures.

Having said that, it’s not that impressive that his kids spoke out in his favor. They’re from his FIRST marriage so of course want to stick it to his current wife/their stepmother. Even a cursory knowledge of ev. psych., or just common sense, tells you that people are typically going to support a blood relative over a step-whatever. It would be more interesting to see what kids of his current marriage (if there are any) have to say about his treatment of their mother.

In the oil rich parts of the Middle East where I live , I daily encounter fathers ( and mothers) surrounded by the large broods of children about whom they are very proud. The children are happy, the mothers are happy, and the fathers are happy. Game is not an option: single men and women do not talk to one another prior to an engagement approved by the parents.
Once in Saudi Arabia I observed a young Saudi couple with their four year old son in a shopping mall. The boy caught sight of two six year old Dutch girls with blond hair and blue eyes and stared at them with his thumb in his mouth. The girls walked over and kissed him on both cheeks. The boy was astounded. His father and his fully covered and veiled mother convulsed with silent laughter.

Does the former Mrs. Chadwick actually have a tattoo on her decolletage … in a photo dating from the late 80s? Who got boob tattoos in the 80s? Who gets boob tattoos at all? I think that sort of evil is actually easy to spot. Women who mutilate themselves with tattoos and piercings are obviously worse people than those who don’t.

Indeed. I sure wouldn’t entrust my destiny to a woman proudly sporting a boob tattoo at a black tie event (or anywhere else, for that matter).

In fact, tattoos and piercings usually come together with certain patterns of behavior that should also raise a giant red flag. It’s tragic how many men nowadays scoff at the old-fashioned common-sense judgmental stereotypes about women as evil antiquated prejudice, and then go and ruin their lives by disregarding these criteria, like Chadwick did. The same is true of women in a different way, of course.

I was waiting for you to pick on me. You know who I am. Years ago, you knew me as Cucumber.

Yeah, my language was dopey, but my point stands: having a woman who worships you day in and day out, year after year, builds a degree of confidence and insight into people that you don’t get from a series of short-term flings. It leads to personal growth that you cannot achieve through other means.

This article claims that Mussolini slept with over 5000 women,“schlief mit 5000 Frauen.”His last mistress,Clareta Petacci, chose to remain by his side and be executed,rather than abandon him and save her life.Pretty alpha,no?

Vladimir:
With regards to tattoos, Theodore Dalrymple wrote this essay about English women being utterly clueless with regards to, as you said, common sense judgmental stereotypes.

A girl with a black eye and other bruises would come in. Dalrymple determines that it is a domestic violence thing. He tells the nurses: this guy will have a shaved head, a tattooed neck or elbow and generally dress like a thug. The nurses balk, “you can’t judge people by how they look!” Then the guy comes in and looks exactly as described. The nurses continue to rationalize, “well, it was just this one. That doesn’t mean all people dressing this way are like that.”

I think tattoos are pretty commonplace, especially in the states, these days. I’d say, yeah, a boob tattoo is pretty tacky anywhere — but I don’t think you’d be able to judge a girl with a tattoo as accurately as you might think.

I think tattoos are pretty commonplace, especially in the states, these days. I’d say, yeah, a boob tattoo is pretty tacky anywhere — but I don’t think you’d be able to judge a girl with a tattoo as accurately as you might think.

Nemo asks a very good question. In so many ways, many of the people here-not all of them, for sure, but not an insignificant number either-are in many ways, if not part of the “elite” they are at the least part of the SWPL class. They’re White collar professionals, live in hip neighborhoods, have blogs, are usually White, etc, et al. And yet, quite a few post topics here in the forum center around taking jabs or shots at the very class of people quite a few of you belong to.

What is up with that? Is it some kind of psychological thing happening here? Or what?

D. Ray Morton, if that’s true, that’s good, but she was mid-40s then—She has famously lied about her age for years. It’s why she had to adopt—-she’s in late 50s/early 60s now, but with loads of plastic surgery.

He needs a young 20-something nubile 90s chic. Alicia Silverstone would definitely suffice.

quite a few post topics here in the forum center around taking jabs or shots at the very class of people quite a few of you belong to.

Actually, yes, O, guilty as charged here. I think — speaking for myself only — it is indeed a psychological thing. I grew up surrounded by SWPL-ism (or the nascent version that was around when I was a kid) and I was well into my twenties before I started to see how vacuous, smug, and uiltimately useless it all is.

My own awakening from that rancid fog of self-satisfaction has made me a rather zealous convert. And it’s a common phenomenon, of course, that people feel most strongly about the things they are most closely connected to. So SWPL (the site itself) is rather biting for me, because there are lots of things on there I’ve been guilty of in the past, and others I enjoy fully (though I can’t say I feel “guilty” for liking coffee and wearing a peacoat in the winter, nor should I).

Ohio State and Michigan don’t hate each other because they are so different, but because they are so similar that their differences get highlighted. Harvard doesn’t have a rivalry with Arizona State because that would be silly… they have a rivalry with Yale. And Arizona State hates Arizona, which is only natural.

I fucking hate SWPL-ism more than I would otherwise, I suspect, because it’s close enough to me to remind me of my own upbringing and past, yet different enough — and objectionable enough — to make me want to vomit.

10000 pardons for not reading your earlier post and recognizing you from that. If it’s any consolation, you’re one of the “one or two” I was thinking of. Still man, you have to admit, most married American dudes are pretty clueless, and get nothing out of marriage but a shrill harpy who occasionally bestows her stink hole upon him. It wasn’t always thus, but it more or less is now.
Having a woman around who worships you is a great feeling, as Dr. Roissy puts it; the greatest pleasure in life. Fooling yourself into thinking the witch perpetually threatening your nuts with the rolling pin approximates is normal is a great tragedy of our time.

Back to the tattoo thing: think of all the trouble I could have saved myself in my mid-20s if I had simply hewed to the ancient prejudice against divorced trashy women with tattoos.

… and now I wish I had paid more attention to my cranky old grandaddy who was an inventor, started his own successful business which he passed down to my uncle, raised two kids, was a shriner and helped lots of orphans etc, voted republican his whole life, smoked till he was 65, and fought in North Africa, at Anzio, and at Normandy… where he was later the mayor of a small french town for 6 months after the war was over until the locals could get reorganized and find their way back home.

He had been trying to teach me this shit all along, but I was too much of a young dipshit to listen properly.

As for you guys thinking about kids, do not do it. I speak from experience here. I love my kid but fuck man, it’s such a drag being a parent. Especially since I got divorced (and having a kid fucking accelerated that process) and have joint custody so I have to be daddy every other week.

The reason why I do it though is two fold: I don’t want my daughter to be brain washed by her psychotic mother and it means I don’t pay a single penny in child support. I’m glad I got divorced in Sweden – no alimony ever and no child support if you have joint custody.

So, again, don’t have kids because it really is a pain in the arse with very little in the way of upside.

I actually have a high-traffic blog already, but on the subject of technology and futurism.

BUT,

I am going to start a Game blog very soon, and will invite some of you to be guest bloggers too.

Obsidian,

Keep in mind that India is a country where some people live in the 21st century, some live in the 20th century, and some live in the 19th century or further back. This is not just true of the country, but can even be true in the same household. The grandmother who got married at age 10 to a man of 22 is still alive, while the granddaughter is in college in America and slutting it up big-time.

Indian guys, too, play both sides of the fence. They date here (successfully or otherwise), only to go back to India and get a virgin Indian women to marry. US-born Indian women, however, cannot go to India to marry an Indian guy. They are not prepared to cede to the male-centric lifestyle that would entail.

The only reason is seems that US-born Indian women have the upper hand is that in the dating game, a man requires Game (which a lot of Indian guys don’t have due to a provider-Beta upbringing), while Indian women, like all women, don’t need to do anything to date as they get approached.

But this is a very superficial thing, as an Indian man can marry a woman from the deep resovoir of India, while a US-born Indian woman can’t/won’t. The ‘upper hand’ of Indian women in the US only exists until the man decides to disengage from US dating and marry a woman from India itself.

“No, I’m going to New York next month and it’s not Obama related.”
–Young communists, then? Or to yell at victims of crimes in NY courts to just “get over it” and “stop harassing the poor, innocent criminals”?

“You’re not stalking me well enough”
—it’s not stalking if you don’t care.

Master Dogen:
The first time I remember encountering swiplers (I’ve gotten tired of acronyms) in 1993 or so, I could not stand them. I was dating this girl who did the whole dinner party thing. They were self-absorbed, self-righteous, self-congratulatory pricks. None of them had a thought in their heads that did not originate on a bumper sticker. Their anti-racism and anti-wealth attitudes were quite hysterical as none of these parties ever had anyone that was not white as a sheet nor anyone from less than an upper middle class background.

I suppose it depends on the validity and logic of the explanation. However, since I do have a good bit of ink on me, it’ll probably be sexual in nature.

Lurker,

You’re possibly the only person on this forum who thinks I’m actually a female. Whatever your reasoning behind it, I applaud you.

But I think that your reasoning behind getting a tattoo, and the experience of receiving a tattoo, is quite one-sided and uninformed.

My first tattoo was done by a young, rather attractive woman in under an hour. It had significant meaning to me.

My second tattoo was done by a polite young man. We’ve put about eleven and a half hours of work into it and we’re not quite done. The tattoo itself is something I designed myself, then spent a few hours with some friends of mine that are graphic designers, bringing it all together. It has an incredible amount of meaning to me, and was well worth the pain and recovery process, both of which were significant due to the location.

When I’m older, they may show my age, especially if I don’t keep them touched up. But then, to a man like yourself, I’m sure once I hit 30, I’ll be below your notice anyhow. My body is here to make me happy, not you.

So, no, I see very little logic in your statement. It must be my female brain struggling to comprehend your theory.

CptNapalm,

I’ve yet to get a trampstamp. I don’t think I ever will. They’re pretty damn unattractive.

Mandy,

I now wish that I could be a sailor and a prostitute… just without joining the Navy.

10000 pardons for not reading your earlier post and recognizing you from that. If it’s any consolation, you’re one of the “one or two” I was thinking of. Still man, you have to admit, most married American dudes are pretty clueless, and get nothing out of marriage but a shrill harpy who occasionally bestows her stink hole upon him. It wasn’t always thus, but it more or less is now.
Having a woman around who worships you is a great feeling, as Dr. Roissy puts it; the greatest pleasure in life. Fooling yourself into thinking the witch perpetually threatening your nuts with the rolling pin approximates is normal is a great tragedy of our time.

Back to the tattoo thing: think of all the trouble I could have saved myself in my mid-20s if I had simply hewed to the ancient prejudice against divorced trashy women with tattoos.””””””

Yes. I go to dinners with my co-workers to be polite from time to time. One of them grew up on a farm, and another was in the service, and those guys are ok. But the rest are pretty intolerable, especially when they get around their awful ball-breaking girlfriends.

But I can’t deny I know all the codes of how to move in that world. I’m very good at it when I want to be. Lately, though, I can’t help calling bullshit on the various pretensions. One girlfriend, I’m convinced, thinks I’m the devil. Good times.

“I’m not quite seeing the connect between decorating one’s skin and being free with one’s body… can someone please explain the logic behind this correlation?”

Ever heard of cold reading? You can tell a lot about someone’s personality just by looking at how they dress/decorate themselves. People with tattoos tend to be more open and willing to go against social norms; in this case, going against the social norm of not fucking on the first night. Not to say that every girl with tattoos sleeps with a lot of men on the first night, but there is a reason why stereotypes become stereotypes: there’s some kind of truth to all of them.

PoF: Tattoos are not accepted in Arab males as far as I know, for example. My uncle has one of a topless mermaid (frickin’ alpha, considering it was the Emirates, and he was showing it off in Ramadan) — he’s fairly promiscuous from what I can glean — and my homosexual brother has one. They would be a good indicator if you didn’t know them, that they were rejecting Arab cultural mores, including those on sex.

It’s fun flipping the script to men.

Mandy: Unless you have the impulse to give him some love, ignore him when he’s being like this. I don’t know what has made the previous heart-of-rock lurker — a bit extreme and harsh already — into steel. ’tis a disease not correctable by reason, yea.

Still, it’s questionable how many of these conquests were due to his alpha charm, and how many were extorted. The article says that he scored with 5,000 women “during the 23 years of his reign,” nothing about his success before that. There’s also a damning paragraph in the article — for those who can’t read German, here’s a rough translation:

During sex, the Duce was of a very fast temperament (?). Farrell [the historian]: “The moments of passion (?) lasted only minutes. Only rarely did he manage even to get to the bed. Sex usually occurred standing against the wall or on the carpet.”

So, Il Duce seems to have been horny, but a premature ejaculator. The article further says that one of his lovers said his touch “felt like he was squashing a bulb horn.” Sounds to me more like a coercive violator than a smooth alpha; certainly nowhere in the same class as Berlusconi.

For an example of a true super-alpha among politicians, check out the biography of Josip Broz Tito, the Yugoslav commie dictator. Here is a very incomplete list of his conquests — note that most of them are from before he came to power in 1945:http://www.titoville.com/women.html

@obs, MD- I agree with MD. The educated, UMC whites who hang out here are a dissident faction of the governing class type. Apostates. Counterrevolutionaries. Just because we were raised with that shit doesn’t mean we have to accept it. Numbers are growing yearly.

@all re tats: mandy and bhetti are basically right- there’s a generational association (when I was a kid, only inmates and Hells Angels had ’em) but now, when sweet midwestern girls get them in shopping malls, there’s a selection for rebel, risk-seeking types. Who usually tend to be sluttier.

“They do it because they love the piercing and/or tattoo everyday day AFTER that.”

So if tats aren’t about getting attention (which, in women, is highly correlated with the “cock and awe” strategy), women wouldn’t care what other people thought about their tattoo or show them off as much as they do.

But since most women show their tats to everyone (especially the ones that ride along the panty line) that leads me to suspect that women are getting tats for reasons other than their own amusement with the art.

so while they might love the art or piercing itself every day after that, they also love the attention that it brings them. people, especially sluts and dudes with faggot-ass barb-wire tats try to pretend that tattoos are art, and they are, in the same way that ‘NSync or Britney Spears are considered artistic music.

Chadwick. I can understand Silvio’s behavior, and even applaud it, in men under 50, but he’s simply too old to be off chasing fertile young women and really has more important things to be doing. Chadwick probably did lose the money, but damn that guy is a posterchild/martyr for the injustice of divorce laws in America and if he actually has the willpower to hide 2.5 mil and stay in jail for 14 years on principal, he’s fucking super-alpha. I hope his wife either comes around and helps him, kills herself, or died. Nobody deserves that kind of punishment for anything nonviolent or huge white collar crime scams.

I used to think there was a shred of wisdom in your blog but I’m starting to think otherwise because you want to die alone surrounded by hookers and cheap women. Burlusconi is not a role model for me and I have no repect for the man. He’s corrupt and no good for his country, using only his dick to think even though he has a nation to serve. The fact that to aspire to be like him makes me sad and I won’t be reading your blog as much. Family is the most important thing you can have. You’ll find that out someday.

“Who usually tend to be sluttier.”
It may/may not say something about her friends too. My bff and I gave one of the girls in our friend group an hour lecture because she was considering getting a back tattoo “symbolizing what she stands for: peace, love, and happiness.”

If I ever have sex with a woman again, I’ll be surprised. Burying my face in someone’s muff, I just can’t get into it… double entendre not intended. Of course, if said butch dyke brings back a few guys when she’s done trucking, I’ll put my book down and join in. Take one for the team, as it were.

Bhetti,

…I feel like a moron. I should’ve thought of that one on my own. Thanks for stating what should’ve been obvious, hehe.

Mandy,

A sailor prostitute on a pirate ship? This is rapidly becoming one of those, “Team America, Fuck Yeah!” ideas.

Assanova,

Good point on the cold reading. Tattoos say a lot about their owners, not just in the subject matter, but the location. I look more at the latter than the former as indicators of personality.

And, really, if we look at my behaviors combined with my ink, my actions completely support the stereotype and I really shouldn’t be arguing against it, especially with the points you and Bhetti made being sound ones.

I suppose it’s not the stereotype that bothers me as much as the logic some people use to get there.

Nemo asks a very good question. In so many ways, many of the people here-not all of them, for sure, but not an insignificant number either-are in many ways, if not part of the “elite” they are at the least part of the SWPL class.

I’m probably as non-SWPL as it’s possible to be in a Canadian urban environment. I got something like 15% on that SWPL quiz, and for a third or so of the entries, I didn’t even have any idea what they were talking about.

Bhetti – Poetry of Flesh: A tattoo seems to me a symptom and mark of what system you embrace i.e. being progressive i.e. not obeying older cultural mores, even actively rejecting them.

But for some tattoos are a mark of conformity. They may be be rebelling against one set of cultural expectations but they are conforming to others.

Tattoos to me equal trash. I don’t care how much celebrities promote it or how many average chicks do it because they think it marks them free and independent of old fashion man rules. It’s trashy, always will be. But some girls are aiming for trash.

Guys who have tats ALL!!! look like tools. Conformist cock sucking, phony tough guys. I’ve known real tough guys, a Jet fighter pilot in the 90s, several combat vets of WWII and a Navy SEAL who was killed in training.

Most people would never guess how tough these guys were. They were the real thing yet they didn’t do anything to highlight their toughness. They would never be cast in a movie to represent the lives they actually lived.

And those mores include attitudes to sex.

Yeah, the girls probably are sluttier, no doubt. But that doesn’t mean they are sexier or better in bed any more than the scumbag males with tats are braver or tougher than men without them.

Berlusconi is the most alpha male in the world, but by that very definition, other men cannot emulate him.

He is both the richest man AND the head of state in a large, developed country that is far more suited for romance/promiscuity than any Anglosphere country.

Think of Bill Gates and Bill Clinton being the same man, AND America to have the good weather and more sexually casual culture of Italy. Then, you have Berlusconi’s paradise.

Hell, Sarkozy’s (of France’s) wife is also Italian, and has posed nude and openly writes about her ‘thirty lovers’.

The wife of India’s former Prime Minister (who briefly became PM herself), Sonia Gandhi, is ALSO an Italian woman (albeit not in the Carla Bruni league of looks, age adjusted).

Another reason I like Berlusconi is that in 2006,, he gave a speech to the US congress that is gushingly pro-US, thanking America for WW2 sacrifices. He said the US flag is not just the flag of a great nation, but a universal symbol of freedom and Democracy.

Perhaps America can reform the divorce laws and make America a land of freedom again.

Tattoos are really not bad. The trouble is that people get bored with the same picture and want a change once in awhile, not to mention the same picture doesn’t always match everything one wears. Then, what?

Poof “I’m not quite seeing the connect between decorating one’s skin and being free with one’s body… can someone please explain the logic behind this correlation?”

It’s sort of like women who smoke. People who stick painful, inanimate foreign objects into their bodies are infinitely more likely to stick a big bag of dicks in themselves. Duh.

You need only go look at lilgrl’s blog for instruction. There she is, displaying her half nude meatsack for everyone’s inspection. Regardless of her actual body count, she has the soul of a whore. Were the squinty playa dude in her photos to actually have the misfortune to shack up with her, at some point, probably as her beauty obviously begins to fade, she’ll pull a Sandra Tsing Loh, buy an “artist studio” and begin to have affairs with people like me when I was in my early 30s.

I’d also add that anyone who calls themselves “Poetry of Flesh” is likely to have the soul of a whore. *goes and looks* Yep, Brother Lupo is always correct in these matters.

“I think that the way that a socially feminine woman acts is weak and illogical.”

Good for you bubkes. Your lack of imposture will ensure that you will be used as a q-tip by actual alpha men, and if any man at all will put up with you on a long term basis, he’ll have the soul of a gerbil: exactly what you deserve. Incidentally; most women like you hate their fathers.

Go read the “Poetry of Flesh” blog, lads. She embodies what all good men should avoid: a trashy, tattooed, cigarette smoking, domineering harpy who hates her dad and passes herself around like a $20 whore (who fucks in the back seats of cars? Whores!). Fun for bumping uglies; but that’s the opposite of a keeper.

Reptiles aren’t so cool in real life. But they are great tattoo material — very lively and colorful. Pupu is going to take a break from data crunching for awhile until something compels her to start counting again.

Like I said; soul of a whore. I’m never wrong in these matters. Any woman who would sit on a bisexual dick, and brag about it in public has no respect for her own body. Even in the unlikely event she has a low body count, the chances of catching hepatitis-C or aids from such a creature are a lot higher than double the body count with non-bisexual men. Especially in San Francisco where disease is endemic. I won’t even get into the herpes thing. Funny how these things go together: tattoos, piercings, disease and bad character. They probably met at Bondage a GoGo or Citadel.

Lupo – Does the former Mrs. Chadwick actually have a tattoo on her decolletage … in a photo dating from the late 80s? Who got boob tattoos in the 80s? Who gets boob tattoos at all? I think that sort of evil is actually easy to spot. Women who mutilate themselves with tattoos and piercings are obviously worse people than those who don’t.

That’s the first thing I noticed in the photo. Why does she have a tattoo on her chest? And what man would sit next to a wife with her tattooed chest hanging out like that.

I’m now thinking ole Chadwick is pretty beta. No wonder he got into the mess he was in.

If she had that tattoo before marriage, marriage off.

If she wanted one after marriage he should have put his foot down and said no. A woman requesting a tattoo for herself is a shit test on a man.

Chadwick isn’t even remotely in Silvio’s league. Silvio would have burned the bitch’s tat off with a laser and no anesthesia.

OH HAYYYY — I just saw your other post on me. Seems I have fans everywhere 🙂

Were the squinty playa dude in her photos to actually have the misfortune to shack up with her, at some point, probably as her beauty obviously begins to fade, she’ll pull a Sandra Tsing Loh, buy an “artist studio” and begin to have affairs with people like me when I was in my early 30s.

This is why you men should be ashamed to say he’s an “idol” and would want him raising your kids. It would be totally fine if he was a childless man, but his behavior is disgusting since he has children and the fact that he’s open about his sex life with his children and takes pride in fucking his daughter’s friend is not “alpha” it’s amoral, low-class, and sick.

LR,

er… His oldest children are in their 30s and 40s.

The fact that many men admire him is because men are treated so unfairly by the divorce laws that many of us men will root for ANYTHING that strikes back against this.

Think about that, and why this will bring your doom at the hands of Islam, sex technologies, and crime against women.

@NYCers re balldropped on HH idea: since I floated the idea, it was probably incumbent on me to propose something concrete. So: how’s tomorrow night (Friday), Gramercy Park Hotel bar, 10:00. If that location is deemed too foofy we could always relocate. A bit late for an HH but not a Friday night in the Big Apple.

Again, I don’t want to violate the Internet code of anonymity, but I still think it would be fun to hang out and put faces to names.

My boyfriend is not bisexual, or a bartender. I guess he is neanderthal-esque. That was all in response to A.J. Travis, who has multiple evolving theories about me, my life, my boyfriend, etc. in his little fantasy world. You should read more here, hmm?

@maurice, are you referring to the rose bar or the jade bar? Also, are you confident that all of the various men can get in there, especially at 10pm? finally, I believe the point was to trade tips and sarge so … I’d fail there. (and lacking the courage of most of the ladies here, I’m scared of y’all bc I have no wish to hear that I rank anywhere below x-awesome.)

but do confirm the locations (or area) … seriously, it’s the b-day weekend for my poster child of the failed feminist you all rant about, and that is one of the places she totes goes to . . . I can NOT deal with consoling back patting all weekend.

If you want to tell me your preferred DC bar location I can tell you my NYC equivalent.

If he has a thing for young ladies and is active as a dad (of young ladies) then he should keep his preferences “private”. You think he’s going to raise “quality daughters” being around THAT kind of influence? Please. What a bunch of hypocrites you guys are, shrieking about Feminists ruining family values. What do you call this?

As you once again demonstrate your utter clueless myopia…this is EXACTLY the result of Feminist’s overthrowing family values! This is a primary example of matriarchal, polyamorous hypergamy in plain view for all to see. We men are hardly hypocrites for admiring the player.

Besides, you calling anyone hypocrite is certainly the proverbial pot calling the kettle black. Just as you revel in the exact same cultural conditions that allow you to proudly be a single mother that used a man as a sperm donor, and you see nothing wrong or negative about your boy not having a father in his life, it is the same dynamic that also promotes women chasing alpha.

We don’t hate the player…most of us hate the game. Even if we’re good at playing it, and certainly enjoy some aspects of the game, we still recognize that the game itself is not good for society and civilization as a whole. That is in fact, the very essence of roissy’s observations and analysis of our current reality.

Since almost all of us have no say in the game that is to be played (Matriarchal hyperamous polyamory), we are hardly hypocritical for playing the game as best as each of us can.

In the bad old days of “Patriarchy,” with social shaming in full force, a guy like Burlesconi would certainly have been very discrete…and shamed out of office where it to be exposed.

The fact that he openly flaunts his sex life and is celebrated for it is the direct result of the feminist’s movement to overthrow traditional cultural values and sexual inhibitions.

Actually, that didn’t even occur to me. I was more thinking that if I could get you to speak in an Italian accent, then maybe I could also get you to dress up like Mario (and, of course, I would dress like Princess Peach) and then we could have some role-playing sex where I could secretly have a friend record it from my closet (like Tucker Max… but less vomit, hopefully) and then, once you left, I could pay-per-view it to millions of nerds online for millions of dollars and become internet famous.

But the plunging metaphor works too. I’m easygoing.

Guns,

See, I’ve got this 100% success rate of never having an STD, and if I was a mattress warmer in Iraq, that would totally kill my stellar track record. Not to mention, I like sex and all, but that would be entirely too much. It’s not very dignified walking around like you’re straddling a horse.

Oxy just needs to make her agree to gun prenump anyway of course. he he

I made her swear just yesterday about said agreement to protect her future as 21st century Amy Tan – but, with bustier gravitas. That means, of course, once she starts looking at all the varieties of pretty, flowery stationery, she’ll just go all Jessica Simpson.

Don’t get married. Racer X has been enjoying premium pussy for many years now. I plan to continue to enjoy the best pussy possible for as long as possible. If for some unfortunate reason that should change (my balls getting bit off by a lion on some safari, for instance), I will then pursue a life religious mysticism to soothe my broken soul. If had gotten married, and I was in a few serious relationships where the girl wanted to get married, I would be unhappy now. These were difficult to end, ending deep and passionate love is always extremely difficult, but I knew I was not cut out for the typical middle class life of marital servitude.

@backdoor man – “Once you have felt the deep and unflagging adoration of a woman over several years, you achieve a higher state of knowledge, an understanding of yourself and others that enriches your life in many ways.’

That’s beautiful! I can only hope that one day my man would say the same thing.

I also admire your wife’s ability to understand your need for infidelity – I have similar beliefs – just not sure I’ve arrived enough to get over jealousy. Definite discussion with future mate though.

However, the data on tatoos does not make distinctions as to where the tatoo is and how many the girl has. Anecdotal evidence suggests that extensive tatooing and/or tatoos near an erogenous zone _do_ indicate promiscuity.

[editor: a tramp stamp is a more welcome sight on a woman than a condom in her purse.]

@al- I was thinking of the big bar off the lobby with the pool table in it, whatever that’s called. And the idea is for tomorrow, not tonight. I wasn’t thinking the convo would necessarily be limited to PUA themes, but would probably center around the topics of this blog.

So ditch your sad-sack aging friends and come hang with us…! We might be very opinionated, but we’re fun and interesting…

See, I’ve got this 100% success rate of never having an STD, and if I was a mattress warmer in Iraq, that would totally kill my stellar track record. Not to mention, I like sex and all, but that would be entirely too much. It’s not very dignified walking around like you’re straddling a horse.”””””””

Ok so obviously your not as hardcore as I thought. Lot of innocent woman on this board he he he

Thats what I like about kuwait they test everybody if you don’t pass you have to leave country. I don’t think soldiers can deploy with stds anyway. Well like the phantom aids anyway.

POOF: “I’ve got this 100% success rate of never having an STD, and if I was a mattress warmer in Iraq, that would totally kill my stellar track record.”

You do realize that they test people for VD in the military, right? Right. They fight for your freedom, dude: do it for England.

“I quit smoking several years ago. “

I’ll admit it: a guess. And I was right, even if I’m a few years late.

I’m sorry lilgrl; I am kind of busy most of the time, and only post when it amuses me. Never noticed your not-bisexual dude who named himself after an antibiotic. I occasionally read AJ’s posts though; his anger and nihilism is pure and refreshing.

It’s not even slightly alpha to sit in jail for fourteen years, to avoid paying money.

An alpha male values his freedom too much. He would pay the money, and laugh it off, since his effortless superiority would consider the sum a pittance, and he would spend his fourteen years banging hot chicks rather than sitting in a jail.

ha, maurice, I’ll think about it. I don’t know if I can wiggle out of Friday night drinks, and I am not bringing around my friends. My male friend who sent me links would be amused by y’all, but my gfs … that wouldn’t go well.

Especially if someone took them home and then didn’t friend them on facebook. I am tired of hearing about that. Wah wah.

With respect to whoever was referencing Admiral Stockdale, that man’s Vietnamese imprisonment has even John McCain beat. He was a tough SOB. His wikipedia entry:

[Stockdale] was held as a prisoner of war in the Hoa Lo prison for the next seven years. Locked in leg irons in a bath stall, he was routinely tortured and beaten. When told by his captors that he was to be paraded in public, Stockdale slit his scalp with a razor to purposely disfigure himself so that his captors could not use him as propaganda. When they covered his head with a hat, Stockdale beat himself with a stool until his face was swollen beyond recognition. He told them in no uncertain terms that they would never use him. When Stockdale heard that other prisoners were dying under the torture, he slit his wrists and told them that he preferred death to submission.

I saw some magazine article around the time of the Lewinsky scandal that showed an uncanny facial resemblance between Clinton’s mother, Lewinsky, and some of his other mistresses.

Lewinsky was never a great beauty but she wasn’t nearly as chubby when Clinton first started up w/her as she became as the scandal broke and swirled. And maybe as she was during the later part of her “ministrations” to him.

The one pic I saw of her in this very early stage, called the earliest pic they had of her in the White House, showed her on a well wisher’s line I think of WH staffers as he was getting on or off his helo or some such thing. she’s in a beret. She’s actually thin faced and hot looking in that one.

@al- well, we’ll see if it even comes off. The only responses have been to decline, yourself included. I’ll definitely go, since I said i would, and it gets me out of the hotel room w/ my wife and mother-in-law for a few hours. So I may well end up having a friggin’ $18 glass of wine by myself, and mingling with the locals.

I tend to avoid most military men. They’re cute but they tend to be a little nuts. So my knowledge about the military is 0. If they do regular tests, sure, send me over with a few gallons of grapeseed oil and a lot of towels.

I’m kidding… mostly.

Lupo,

I’ll forgive your error of, er… eight years. I used to be incredibly trashy, the smoking was one of -many- indicators.

But why would I want to do it for England? Can’t I do it for Australia?

According to what data? I’ve observed a significant correlation, at least when it comes to the nicest good girls I know, which are almost universally without any tattoos.

Maybe my sample isn’t representative, but at least when it comes to large and strikingly visible tattoos, they seem to be strongly correlated with all sorts of trashiness, not just sluttiness. By this I mean both true underclass trashiness and that of the SWPL imitation kind (I don’t consider the latter any better when it comes to filtering for quality girls).

Also, what exactly do you count as “piercings”? From what I’ve seen, such things come with tattoos extremely often, so it would be odd if only one of those correlated with sluttiness (or any other trait).

Now most women who have belly piercings like the ones that hang, secretly want jizz on their stomach and or on them in general. Think about it. A dangling piece of shiny metal on a womens belly button from far away looks like jizz, looks like someone forgot to wipe.

I can’t find the study right now, but it didn’t distinguish girls with, say, a small butterfly on their shoulder from girls with a full sleeve or a tramp stamp. I too suspect there to be a significant correlation between those latter and promiscuity.

According to the articles I read about Berlusconi’s cavorting and those pictures of the nude man near the woman, the man with the woody is not Berlusconi. IIRC, it is some Czech official visiting Berlusconi’s villa.

I can’t find the study right now, but it didn’t distinguish girls with, say, a small butterfly on their shoulder from girls with a full sleeve or a tramp stamp. I too suspect there to be a significant correlation between those latter and promiscuity.

Nah…the ones with prominent, very visible, are most likely also openly and proudly promiscuous.

The small, hidden ones are for the girls who act like they are not slutty…but they’re hiding more than just a little ink.

As for Marriage and children. If you ABSOLUTELY must have children, then I suggest you get married mid 50s to a younger woman.

That way, when she inevitably decides to move on, your misery will be shorter lived.

I would suggest that you embrace the fact that Western Civilization does not value you at all if you are male, and treat it the way anyone else that treats you with disrespect. Live your life free and unfettered of any social obligation or care.

A social contract requires an obligation and responsibility from society to the individual, if it expects the individual to have any obligation or responsibility to it.

They would have you be a slave, be a man instead. And let them be afraid.

Marriage is slavery for the man. Live your life for yourself, and not for someone else that treats you like a piece of shit.

Finally, on the tattoos. Any woman that has them, is by defintion easy.

Just as a pierced tongue tells me a woman gives blow jobs (however poorly). A tattoo is a advertisement of being a slut.

Their prevalence today means quite simply that most women are in fact sluts, which is amply proven by the number of partners the top 40% of the women now have being over 10.

Berlusconi and Chadwick are both still alive, and I for one will wait until they in their graves before judging them. It’s like Solon says to King Croesus in Herodotus: “Call no man happy until he is dead.”

He doesn’t cite any specific studies, but, assuming he is accurately representing the PubMed data, then would seem that there is no correlation between female promiscuity and the mere fact of having a tattoo.

I don´t believe that berlusconi banged the girl. I simply cannot imagine a father that is himself a local bigshot offering his daughter to be deflowered by a superalpha who would dump her imediately

the story makes him look alpha, makes her famous, while the social circle present at the parties know that they didn´t have sex

the filthy italian press, unable to accuse Berlusconi of corruption since the left itself is far more corrupt, has gone after his personal life. by making the story public they hoped to force the break up of his marriage

He doesn’t cite any specific studies, but, assuming he is accurately representing the PubMed data, then would seem that there is no correlation between female promiscuity and the mere fact of having a tattoo.

Agnostic is talking only about college students. That in itself means restricting the sample in potentially significant ways. But in any case, I just did a PubMed search myself and I got results completely different from what he reported:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16512308This research examined the association of having a tattoo and engaging in premarital sexual intercourse. Data gathered from a convenience sample of 450 college students indicated that tattooed respondents were substantively and significantly more likely to be sexually active than nontattooed college students. Tattooed men became sexually active at a significantly earlier age than nontattooed men but no such difference was found between tattooed and nontattooed college women.

See also the full paper here:http://courses.ttu.edu/jkoch/Research/Tatto%20Sex.pdfOf tattooed men 96.1% had been sexually active compared to 72.4% of the
nontattooed men, and 94.6% of tattooed women had been sexually active
compared to 68.1% of the nontattooed women.

(Agnostic probably skimmed over the last sentence of the abstract and mistakenly concluded that it applies to all of the presented data. He’s a decently smart fellow, but sometimes very careless and naive in his internet diatribes. This isn’t the first time that I see something like this from him.)

I’m sure there’s more similar research, but the problem is that it’s hard to formulate a good search query that won’t get drowned in a flood of papers about the health risks of tattooing like hepatitis. Check this one out, though:

http://www.springerlink.com/content/ud9qvfe97rlhc5kw/Results: Women with tattoos were more likely to be younger, to drink more alcohol, to have more psychiatric symptoms and to show borderline personality features than were the non tattooed women. They were also more likely to report CSA.

So much for no link between tattoos and pathologies!

Agnostic also says: “The only studies I found linking tattoos and risk-taking or pathologies were for adolescents — for whom tattoos are illegal. So, duh.” Well, yes, but at least some of the adult women with tattoos got them as adolescents, and bad behavior doesn’t necessarily (or even likely) subside after adolescence.

When I think more about it, his idea doesn’t even make any logical sense, if only due to self-fulfilling stereotypes. Just the fact that very religious and conservative girls consciously avoid tattoos because of the stereotypes associated with them is enough to generate at least some correlation in a truly representative population sample.

All things considered, chalk one up for good old-fashioned stereotypes.

Lyndon Johnson was an uber-alpha. He had women lined up three deep. He had a warning system in the oval office to tell him when Lady Bird was on the way.
Despite that, here is what Lady Bird ultimately said about it: “Just flies on the wedding cake”.
Game Set Match

Vladimir: “All things considered, chalk one up for good old-fashioned stereotypes.”

Nice work!
Inspired by this post and the follow up comments, I made a helpful list for spotting women of poor character. All of it is old fashioned stereotypes, therefore it is deeply politically incorrect and silly ding dongs with a lot of metal shit in their face will hate it. Which is mostly what made it worth writing down.

There’s a woman in my office who is married with kids and she has five tattoos now I think including that skank kind on the lower back. She also has her belly pierced and she shouldn’t if you know what I mean. She is also a chick who decided to sleep with her ex husband last summer and who hasn’t had sex with her current husband since. So if we look at correlation with tattoos and piercing here -she’s bang on… or bang her.

“Yeah. I do love going crazy with my temporary tattoo and culturally sanctioned henna, …Oh, I’m such a girl. This feeling, of being just a little girl. Isn’t it lovely?”

You’ve done it. The probability wins. Now Pupu has to overcome all the superficial differences and accept Bhetti as her temp-tattooed, sharper-wit alter ego. Sorry, Bhetti, the reality may be too brutal for you. Pupu is not complaining though.

Lupo, any chance you’ll elaborate on the “hates daddy even when daddy is a mess”? It is better to still adore a father who is [signs of genuine no good papa] than not?

I have two aoefe. One is relatively visible, one has been seen by very very few, and both are small. Neither is anywhere the least bit salacious. I’m not even close to slutty, trashy, ironic, under-educated, flashy, or … um, yeah.

Just a few comments for the punks that like making fun of Case Number 2. He isn’t alpha, right? Because he isn’t a winner.

Good point, punks. You’ve made me see the light. Since America is rigged every which way against men who don’t have connections(and Case 2 WAS A MILLIONAIRE, punks, CONNECTIONS not wealth are important), then those without connections lose in America. And please, a connected man would NEVER have a judge pull out the contempt ruling this man had. He was set up to have his business and wealth stolen from him. Like Welmer.

Now, is it ‘alpha’ to play a ‘game’ you can’t win?

Doesn’t seem so, since ‘alpha’ is winning.

So any man without connections, but better than average in other ways, why are YOU staying in America? Don’t YOU want to be alpha? That is win?

Would you prefer to continue to be cheated, and have punks jabber at you, or would you rather be a winner somewhere else?

Remember, the punks have shown you the way. Be a WINNER. Refuse to play a game you can’t win. Instead, play a game you CAN win.

Lupo, any chance you’ll elaborate on the “hates daddy even when daddy is a mess”? It is better to still adore a father who is [signs of genuine no good papa] than not?

Well, I’m not Lupo, but I have an answer. If the father is scum and deserves the contempt of his daughter, then certainly she is not to blame. Better to reject a lowlife scum than embrace him.

But Lupo’s list is for men trying to pick a woman. It’s best to avoid women who are the offspring of scum. They will be fucked up in the head. Not fair, but smart.

If she hates her prefectly normal daddy because she’s a spoiled feminist biatch, stay away because she has low character. If she hates her daddy because he was a violent, manipulative alcoholic (or whatever), stay away because she has issues.

That makes sense; I wasn’t thinking of it from the point of other problems, more of unconditional love and what it says about a woman who would adore a twithole. Definitely not fair, but lots of things aren’t. Thanks.

Master Dogen: I think you’ve pegged it for al from another angle, though honestly I never thought about it that way. The way I think about it is more “grandma wisdom” in noticing that people marry their parents.

People relate to members of the opposite sex in a pattern which follows their relationship with their opposite sex parent. It doesn’t matter why she hates daddy. It just matters that she does hate daddy. Eventually, on some level, she’ll take her revenge on you for it.

This theory about how people work is incredibly simple, and incredibly powerful. For example: why are there so many pathetic betas, wheras 50 years ago, men were still most excellent fedora wearing nazi-killing he-men? Answer: because in the intervening years, an awful lot of men were raised by domineering women -and I think it’s particularly bad where the father is completely absent. While it is “gramma wisdom” it also has a name in psychology: it’s called “projective identification.” I went through a spell myself where I kept dating the same kind of woman, and had to do a little introspection (the kind that happens in bars, not doctors offices) to figure out where I was tripping myself up. Suffice it to say, problem now solved.

I had a fantastic dad, his early death was very sad. My mom on the other hand is another story. I’ve learned to keep my mom at a healthy distance, we talk but not daily, not even weekly. She tries to trample on all of her daughters (3 of us) and I’m the only one who recognizes the damage this creates- boundaries became necessary for my own mental health. What are your thoughts on relationships between girls and their mothers in regards to ltr’s.

This is just a wild venture, and a gross generalization, but I feel like girls who grow up very close to their mothers have a harder time “individualizing” themselves (not to be confused with “individuation”, heh), and generally develop deeper attachments to other people & environments. It’s not to say that women who don’t grow up close to their mothers aren’t capable of the same deep attachments, but they may have an easier time separating themselves from a difficult situation, and tend to be perceived as “stronger”.

@Aoefe,
Interesting my wifes dad had an early death she still goes to the cemetary to pay respects. Maybe something to do with the idealization of a man and is able to pass that on to another man who she gets with.

People relate to members of the opposite sex in a pattern which follows their relationship with their opposite sex parent. It doesn’t matter why she hates daddy. It just matters that she does hate daddy. Eventually, on some level, she’ll take her revenge on you for it.

I’ve ruminated on this topic a bit, and I think I must concur.

While most here recognize the link between fatherless homes and daughters growing up to be raging sluts, whores and pole dancing professionals, I was puzzled by a particular girl I knew in high school…the younger sister of one of my friends.

She was a raging slut that banged all of my friends, and even made a pass at me once(I wanted no part of her. She was good looking, but there were several scuz balls that I knew had been inside of her. I had no wish to share anything in common with them).

Anyhow, she had an intact family, and my first impression of her Father was a real military hard-ass type of man. In fact, he was a Drill Sargent.

She always complained bitterly that she hated her Father.

I never figured out why, until I was able to look back on their household dynamics with the the perspective on gender roles gained from studying game.

In short, her dad was an overbearing, domineering man when it came to his kids…but mommy ruled the roost. Completely and totally.

Dad would try to lay down the law like the drill Sargent that he was…mommy would immediately step in and take control and override him. He would retreat, muttering and grumbling.

Dude had no sack when it came to dealing with his wife.

When a mother has utter disrespect and contempt for the man of the house, the children will follow her lead and hate him for being a sackless wimp in the face of mommy’s bitchiness.

In terms of social dynamics, a marriage like that is almost no different than a single mother household.

If you are married and have kids, you need to be THE MAN.

Otherwise your wife will despise you with contempt, and your kids will hate you for it.

There’s something my mother always says to me: “You don’t have to worry about a girl who loves her father.”

That said, the most promiscuous girl [with issues but no adipose tissue] I knew loved her messed up father insanely and all her behaviours were focused on a) emulating him b) trying to find a replica of the angsty version of him in the men she was attracted to.

Pupu: You’re my alter ego too?!
How has probability won?

aoefe: Didn’t get what you meant by the misread confusion. Do I want to know? 😉

I’ve always wanted to get a henna hand tattoo – they look so pretty.

It always starts with henna. avoid the devil

I realise this was kidding around but…
Is morality a slippery slope, or an issue of repressed blow-up versus controlled release? Certainly henna applied in traditional S.Asian/Arab frame doesn’t lead to devilry. It’s pretty and innocent and is what most women are doing for the occasions of religious Eid and weddings, but perhaps not having the same perspective on it from a non-henna culture perspective is more risky. It seems it is no more of a harm than a temporary tattoo that I think most have had fun with as children.

Applying modification and marks to one’s own body is a human impulse. This is from what people have said here — including the relatively ‘good girls’ who’ve still expressed a desire to do this — and from historical and cross-cultural examples. Evidence from modernity include striking images of strange modifications with African/Aboriginal tribes modernly and the ear piercings that we still use today.

If we approach it from the view of human impulses and cultural mores, understanding the feminine, religious and LTR-oriented significance of henna when having it done would mean embracing those values and celeberating human/female nature.

Neglecting henna decoration in the Emirates context would be a sign of progressivism, among many.

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