I dont know if this has been asked elsewhere, ive looked but there are so many threads, I may have missed it. On their facebook 'find madeleine official' It says about the crimewatch number now being 'invalid' and gives new numbers to contact, further reading says that they could not 'afford' to keep the crimewatch number running..even though it was only a week after the programme.

We are very pleased that the investigation to find our missing daughter Madeleine has officially been reopened in Portugal. We hope that this will finally lead to her being found and the discovery of who is responsible for this crime.

We once again urge any member of the public who may have information relating to Madeleine's abduction to contact the police in Portugal or the UK.

Please be patient and respect the work of the police as they endeavour to find the answers we so desperately need. In particular, we request that the media consider carefully Madeleine’s safety and the integrity of the investigation in their reporting.

Thank you for your understanding and support.

Gerry and Kate

Gerry and Kate will not be giving any comments regarding the progress of the investigation unless there is a significant breakthrough.

@Cristobell wrote:It reads like a game over, desperate plea to me. The haughtiness is not there, its as if they are preparing for a deluge of the proverbial to hit the fan. I have just watched Sky news and I sensed a change in their tone. it had all the usual poor Gerry and Kate stuff, but when it went through computer images of timeline and facts, it said McCanns were made arguidos, then PJ dropped the case. No mention of the McCanns being cleared. Thats a first to my knowledge. The Portuguese guy was very sympathetic to the parents, but I am beginning to spot a pattern here with detectives, they seem to treat all as victims up to the moment they snap the cuffs on them! Maybe its part of police training? Perhaps Petermac can tell us. I do recall part of Kate's book where she is mortified that the detective she had thought a friend, their families even had dinner together, changed character completely once they were made arguidos.

I agree, Cristobell. When you think about how "desperate" they once were to have an investigation now they're merely "very pleased". It brings to mind Kate's reference to "a can of beans falling off a shelf" when they told Mrs Fenn that a child had gone missing.

It's also telling in that here they expect a negative media slant and are appealing that it doesn't happen for Madeleine's sake and that they won't be commenting on the investigation anytime soon.

____________________“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”

SInce Scotland Yard have told millions of viewers this is now discounted and they have identified the person, it might constitute an offence of misleading the public for it to remain, or perverting the course of justice.

First of all, why do they imagine they need to explain themselves still looking?

And if they absolutely had to explain it, then why doesn't it read:

• We hope with all our hears that Madeleine is still alive• We must do all we can to find her• We made a terrible mistake when she was young and most vulnerable• We love her and miss her beyond words

??

All the McCanns' actions are directed at finding out what the case against them is and attempting (ineptly in my view) to counter it. This is what the bewk was, and it is what lies behind the wording of that strange explanation on their website. People do not behave like this without something to hide.

____________________The prime suspects in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann cannot be permitted to dictate what can and can't be discussed about the case

@thetruthbeknown wrote:I dont know if this has been asked elsewhere, ive looked but there are so many threads, I may have missed it. On their facebook 'find madeleine official' It says about the crimewatch number now being 'invalid' and gives new numbers to contact, further reading says that they could not 'afford' to keep the crimewatch number running..even though it was only a week after the programme.

I don't have any astounding conclusions prompting me to post this, just I thought that it might be useful for members to be checking what the McCanns said to the world via their site at different key moments (given that they're currently still apparently looking for Tannerman..!)

On little nugget is that Wikipedia's entry for Madeleine McCann enjoys three times more engagement per visitor than does www.findmadeleine.com

____________________The prime suspects in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann cannot be permitted to dictate what can and can't be discussed about the case

@thetruthbeknown wrote:I dont know if this has been asked elsewhere, ive looked but there are so many threads, I may have missed it. On their facebook 'find madeleine official' It says about the crimewatch number now being 'invalid' and gives new numbers to contact, further reading says that they could not 'afford' to keep the crimewatch number running..even though it was only a week after the programme.

The crimestopper number is no longer available to phone about the Madeleine case from what I can glean. Now that says a lot about what SY think about the likelihood of someone phoning in with new information. They don't need to keep it up and running because they know exactly who they are looking for.

Mind you there's one determined person there who wanted to give information but there was no contact button on the FB page and the FM webmaster tries to get them to send the info to them, but she says she's already phoned Grange with the info...

@PeterMac wrote:These images are still showing on the Home page, right hand side, they scroll round every few seconds." />" />" />

So the Barcelona Victoria Beckham docks girl is still being actively soughtPimpleman is still around and Tannerman has clearly NOT been ruled out by Crime Watch. Obviously SY were not telling the truth !

For the recordSunday 27 OctoberSTILL THERE scrolling round if you stay on the page.

@susible wrote:The crimestopper number is no longer available to phone about the Madeleine case from what I can glean. Now that says a lot about what SY think about the likelihood of someone phoning in with new information. They don't need to keep it up and running because they know exactly who they are looking for.

Mind you there's one determined person there who wanted to give information but there was no contact button on the FB page and the FM webmaster tries to get them to send the info to them, but she says she's already phoned Grange with the info...

IIRC the number to ring re CW was only open up until midnight the next day. Not very long after anyway. I think.? Not definite. Met police issued a tweet about it.

I don't have any astounding conclusions prompting me to post this, just I thought that it might be useful for members to be checking what the McCanns said to the world via their site at different key moments (given that they're currently still apparently looking for Tannerman..!)

On little nugget is that Wikipedia's entry for Madeleine McCann enjoys three times more engagement per visitor than does www.findmadeleine.com

Merged your thread her PPP, as it is to do with Findmadeleine website.

@susible wrote:The crimestopper number is no longer available to phone about the Madeleine case from what I can glean. Now that says a lot about what SY think about the likelihood of someone phoning in with new information. They don't need to keep it up and running because they know exactly who they are looking for.

Mind you there's one determined person there who wanted to give information but there was no contact button on the FB page and the FM webmaster tries to get them to send the info to them, but she says she's already phoned Grange with the info...

IIRC the number to ring re CW was only open up until midnight the next day. Not very long after anyway. I think.? Not definite. Met police issued a tweet about it.

Thanks..So their info on that page is now the numbers given for 'operation grange' then and not connected directly to Crimewatch. Thats all I wanted to know. I generally do not watch Crimewatch, wasnt sure how it operates once a programme finishes.

Saturday May 12• Madeleine's fourth birthday.Her parents mark the day by calling for people to redouble their efforts to find her. After spending most of the day away from Praia da Luz, the couple attend a special birthday mass in the village where Mr McCann speaks about the impact of the abduction on the family.He also says for the first time that the couple are convinced Madeleine is alive.The total reward being offered by business figures, celebrities and a national newspaper for information leading to Madeleine's safe return reaches £2.5 million.Chancellor Gordon Brown expresses his sympathy for Madeleine's parents and says his thoughts are with them.Sunday May 13• It emerges London lawyers from the International Family Law Group have flown to Portugal to assist the McCanns, and are setting up a special "fighting fund" to allow members of the public to make their own financial contribution to the search.Monday May 14• Mr McCann says that "until there is concrete evidence to the contrary, we believe Madeleine is safe and is being looked after". Mrs McCann says they cannot consider going home at the moment.Police launch a search at the home of Anglo-Portuguese man Robert Murat, just 100 yards from where Madeleine was snatched. Mr Murat is taken in for questioning, but is not formally arrested...........Thursday May 17.............The official website set up to help find Madeleine, www.bringmadeleinehome.com, receives more than 25 million hits.Unquote

There is no announcement in Gerry's blog that the fund is operational on the 18th. He starts his blog on the 20th.

I find it interesting that Maddie is declared as definitely alive (the 'not come to any harm' is a later mantra)just as the fund-creation is starting with the IFLG arrival the following day.

Even given everything that has happened in the last week and then the last 48 hours These images are still showing on the Home page, right hand side, they scroll round every few seconds." />" />" />

So the Barcelona Victoria Beckham docks girl is still being actively soughtPimpleman is still around and Tannerman has clearly NOT been ruled out by Crime Watch. Obviously SY were not telling the truth ![/quote]For the recordMonday 28th October 1815STILL THERE scrolling round if you stay on the page.[/quote]

Eddie and Keela alerted to items and places concerned with the McCanns - and importantly to no other items or places.

According to Eddie and Keela, the body of Madeleine McCann lay lifeless behind the sofa in Apartment 5a, clinging to the only thing from which she could derive any comfort; a soft toy called 'Cuddle cat'.

Kate's book 'madeleine', Page 219: "Did they really believe that a dog could smell the 'odour of death' three months later from a body that had been so swiftly removed?"

After forensic analysis of the 'Last Photo' there is little doubt now that the pool photo CANNOT POSSIBLY have been taken on the Thursday 3rd May, but most likely on the Sunday 29th April. So, where was Madeleine at lunchtime on Thursday?

John McCann:"This was terrible for them, Kate dressed Amelie in her sister's pyjamas and the baby said: "Maddy's jammies, where is Maddy?"Martin Roberts:"If Madeleine's pyjamas had not, in fact, been abducted then neither had Madeleine McCann."Dr Martin Roberts: A Nightwear Job

Death Toll in McCann Case

Gerry McCann called for an example to be made of 'trolls'. SKY reporter Martin Brunt doorstepped Brenda Leyland on 2 October 2014 after a 'Dossier' was handed in to Police by McCann supporters. She was then found dead in a Leicester hotel room the next day. Brenda paid the price.

Colin Shalke died suddenly in mysterious circumstances with a significant amount of morphine in his system. At the Inquest the coroner said there was no evidence as to how he had come to take morphine, and no needle mark was found.

Ex-Met DCI Andy Redwood had a "revelation moment" on BBC1's Crimewatch on 14th October 2013 when he announced that Operation Grange had eliminated the Tanner sighting - which opened up the 'window' of opportunity' from 3 mins to 45 mins, in accordance with their remit, to allow the staged abduction to happen.

Tracey Kandohla: "A McCann pal told The Sun Online: "Some of the savings have been siphoned off from the Find Maddie Fund into a fixed asset account, which financial experts have advised them to do. It can be used for purchases like buying a house or building equipment."

The McCanns, Operation Grange and the BBC are all working towards one goal - to make us keep looking at what happened (or didn't happen) on 3rd May, instead of looking at what happened days earlier. There is NO evidence of an abduction. Smithman is ALL they have got. Without that, they are sunk. No wonder Operation Grange clings on to Smithman...

Lord Bernard Hogan-Howe QPM, retired Met Commissioner: "There will be a point at which we and the Government will want to make a decision about what the likely outcome is."

Dr Gonçalo Amaral, retired PJ Coordinator: "The English can always present the conclusions to which they themselves arrived in 2007. Because they know, they have the evidence of what happened, they don't need to investigate anything. When MI5 opens their files, then we will know the truth."