They are enlisting disaffected Americans to join together to take on the wealthiest 1% in the name of social and economic justice, stating, “You
could be a part of a huge wave of progressive direct action this spring. Learn how to practice nonviolence in the spirit of Gandhi and Martin Luther
King Jr. at a 99% Spring action training.” The email continues, “We're coming together from every corner of our movement to provide in-depth
direct action training to 100,000 people from April 9 to 15. The goal is to pave the way for a 99% Spring filled with a huge wave of progressive
direct action nationwide.”

They will be staging rallies across the country on Tax Day to demand that the 1% pay their fair share and plan on gathering en masse at shareholder
meetings of several Wall Street banks, confronting “dirty energy polluters, and corporations that refuse to treat workers fairly."

With unemployment continuing at record highs, the environment is ripe for Progressive
mischief. But there is a deeper issue here that needs to be addressed.

Be very Careful !!

What should we be careful of ? if any americans want to go into the streets to protest, it's a right of the constitution. not that anything ever
changes in our current political system; corporations have bought both parties!

you are again using VAN JONES to try to distort what the 99% is,
we cant wait for the govenment to do the right thing by the 99%,
any group can protest under the 99% banner as long as they dont use the occupy movement for political gain,
they MUST agree to peaceful non violent direct civil action of freedom of assembly for the reasons of redress of greavences.

they must ADVISE occupy of the non violent nature of their protest,
they MUST NOT ACCEPT CORPERATE OR POLITICAL MONEY.

PEOPLE that try to use the 99% for personal gain or for political power are false in their actions,
IN THIS CASE i ask for people to realise that protest is protected for ALL peoples.
and even for people or groups we disagree with, that is DEMOCRACY

this group is not using the 99% demographic correctly and is going to be devicive to the movement.
BUT THEY HAVE THE SAME RIGHT OF PROTEST

this group is not co-opting occcupy or the 99%.

this group gives political cover for politicians
i accept that they have the right to act in their interests,

BUT OP
this is the second time you have tryed to fear monger that occupy or their "spring" is being co-opted,

do you have an ajenda to demonize by acociation?

i suggest EVERY group gets together a co alition for 99% unity outside of politics.
THIS WILL NOT DEVIDE THE MOVEMENT,
all it does is give detractors ammo to sow the seeds of devision,or is that the idea op?

UNITY MUST BE SHOWN.
this movement is greater than any individual who trys to grab power and devide into groups

Also keep in mind that "rebuild the dream" is a book authored by Van Jones.

He is a muney munger just like the 1%

Reflecting on his brief but pivotal stint at the White House and even delving into the media onslaught he claims was waged against him by Glenn Beck,
former Obama administration green jobs czar, Van Jones, has released a memoir entitled, “Rebuild the Dream.“ Named after his ”progressive Tea
Party,” the book reflects on Jones’ “journey from grassroots outsider to White House insider” and appears to lay out a blueprint for his
upcoming “99% Spring” uprising.

Rebuild the Dream also claims to give readers insight into why Jones “chose to resign as special adviser to the Obama White House.” Or, as Jones
put it, why he was forced to resign from the White House after Glenn Beck “and his minions” launched a “jihad” against him. This, Jones said,
was in retaliation for the successful media boycott his group, “Color of Change,“ engineered to ”rid the national air-waves of Beck” by
obliterating the media figure’s advertising base on the Fox News network. Is Van Jones ‘Rebuild the Dream’ Book a
Blueprint for the ‘99% Spring?’

He talks, but be careful !!

He is part of the problem !

He is doing the opposite of what he preaches (an age old trick)

Van Jones slams ALEC (perhaps rightfully so ?) and pushes his book
He is very very smooth and convincing. He talks @1:55
MSNBC report:

In the anarchist, Marxist and socialist sense, free association (also called free association of producers or, as Marx often called it, community
of freely associated individuals) is a kind of relation between individuals where there is no state, social class or authority, in a society that
has abolished the private property of means of production. Once private property is abolished, individuals are no longer deprived of access to
means of production so they can freely associate themselves (without social constraint) to produce and reproduce their own conditions of existence and
fulfill their needs and desires.

You have just been conditioned to believe capitalism is freedom and anything else is bondage. It all comes from the myth that private ownership is
"freedom", it sounds like a reasonable argument but in reality it's only freedom for those lucky enough to own capital, and use it to exploit
labour to make themselves profit. The worker, who is the majority, do not benefit from that system. The majority will always be workers, and that
majority is always on the rise as capitalist ownership is always concentrated into smaller groups of owners.

Anyone who would try and instigate any form of critical mass action in America, is playing an exceptionally dangerous game. Obama might well be
trying to stage this for his own purposes, but he should be aware that if he does so, there is a very strong possibility that it could backfire in his
face.

Originally posted by xuenchen
In the meantime, are there any real life examples of success ?

Why do you need that? Is this about winners and losers to you?

I can give you 300 hundred years of history of the failure of capitalism for the majority.

No, there really is no example because it has never really been practiced, other than Spain for two years. The world has been under the control of
capitalists for over 300 years, they have the power to control any dissent and shift toward true socialism/communism.

The closest it ever happened was in Spain in 1936, when Franco tried to take over the left-wing republican government with a military coup. The
republican government collapsed and there was a civil war as citizens took up arms against Franco's fascist military. Franco had help from Italy and
Germany, who were both fascist states.

The anarchists (anti-state socialists) took this opportunity to take over and revolutionize the economy. For two years, while they fought a civil
war, the people, led by the anarchist labour organization 'Confederación Nacional del Trabajo' (CNT; "National Confederation of Labour"),
collectivized industry and farms. They increased productivity by 20%. They rebuilt the infrastructure of their cities, repaired the nonworking tram
system in Barcelona.

A Tale of Seven Hundred Trams

Industrial collectivisation was extensive especially in the anarchist stronghold, Barcelona. As George Orwell put it in Homage to Catalonia,

It was the first time that I had ever been in a town where the working class was in the saddle.

About 3000 enterprises in the city were collectivised. The tram system provides a shining example of just how much better we can run things when we do
struggle up into that saddle.

On July 24th, five days after the rising was crushed, the tram crews got together and decided to run the whole system themselves. A committee was
elected. They quickly introduced many changes. Within another 5 days 700 trams were in service. 100 trams had been patched up and rushed into service.
The major reason for the quick repair job was the re-employment of 657 laid off tram-men.

Putting people first

With the profit motive gone, safety became more important and the number of accidents was reduced. A new automatic safety and signalling system was
introduced. Sections of track were repaired and re-laid.
The old fares had varied from 0.1 to 0.4 pesetas. A new standard fare of 0.2 pesetas was introduced. Yet more money was made (and ploughed back in)
and an extra 50 million passengers were carried. Wages were equalised for all workers (which meant an increase for most) and there was free medical
care for all workers in the city.

Perhaps the most amazing fact is that over the two years of collectivisation there were only 6 cases of workers caught stealing from the
workshop.

Unfortunately outside forces seeking power caused its failure. The communist party, seeking power, betrayed the anarchists. Then there was the civil
war, and the overwhelming power of the fascists. It's what led to WWII. Hitler was allowed to act militarily in Spain, because the PTB at the time
wanted to squash worker organization. WWII helped to destroy that. Propaganda and conditioning since WWII has helped to keep workers from becoming
as powerful since they were in the 1930's. People don't realise how powerful and organized the working class were before WWII.

We got the first 'labour' party in government due to the working class. It was supposed to have been the revolutionary government that would allow
the change to a socialist economy. But we all know how that worked out, and just proves the anarchists were right all along. Socialists who called
themselves 'anarchists' did so because they believed a revolutionary government was impossible, and power is power regardless of who has it. Of
course they were right as history has now proven. The 'labour' party in the UK is neither socialist, nor revolutionary. They are liberal right-wing
light.

only a little bit maybe, but only after they rip you off for millions.

the real name is Marxism/Corporatism .... all readjusted from the original concepts of course.
they make it fit their agendas, not yours.

it's an old scam, older than dirt.

A person calling themselves a communist, and not being a communist, doesn't make communism a scam.

Communism is not about supporting people like Van Jones (I don't even know who he is), it is an economic system. The communist party betrayed the
anarchists in Spain, but that doesn't mean anarchists do not ultimately support communism, as communism is the goal of all left wing ideologies, the
differences lie in how to get there.

In the anarchist, Marxist and socialist sense, free association (also called free association of producers or, as Marx often called it, community
of freely associated individuals) is a kind of relation between individuals where there is no state, social class or authority, in a society
that has abolished the private property of means of production. Once private property is abolished, individuals are no longer deprived of
access to means of production so they can freely associate themselves (without social constraint) to produce and reproduce their own conditions of
existence and fulfill their needs and desires.

Communism is not about supporting people like Van Jones (I don't even know who he is), it is an economic system. The communist party betrayed the
anarchists in Spain, but that doesn't mean anarchists do not ultimately support communism, as communism is the goal of all left wing ideologies, the
differences lie in how to get there.

Yes Yes of course.

Here is more about Van Jones:

Anthony Kapel "Van" Jones (born September 20, 1968) is an American environmental advocate, civil rights activist, and attorney. Jones is a
co-founder of three non-profit organizations. In 1996, he founded the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights, a California non-governmental organization
(NGO) working for alternatives to violence. In 2005, he co-founded Color of Change, an advocacy group for African Americans.[1] In 2007, he founded
Green For All, a national NGO dedicated to "building an inclusive green economy strong enough to lift people out of poverty."[2] His first book, The
Green Collar Economy, was released on October 7, 2008, and reached number 12 on the New York Times Best Seller list.[3] In 2008, Time magazine named
Jones one of its "Heroes of the Environment".[4] Fast Company called him one of the "12 Most Creative Minds of 2008".[5]

In March 2009 Jones was appointed by President Barack Obama to the newly created position of Special Advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation
at the White House Council on Environmental Quality, where he worked with various "agencies and departments to advance the administration's climate
and energy initiatives, with a special focus on improving vulnerable communities."[6][7] In July 2009 he became "embroiled in a controversy"[8]
over his past political activities, including a public comment disparaging congressional Republicans, his name appearing on a petition for
911Truth.org, and allegations of association with a Marxist group during the 1990s.[9][10] For these issues, Van Jones was heavily criticized by
conservatives.[11] Jones resigned from the position in early September 2009.[8] "On the eve of historic fights for health care and clean energy,
opponents of reform have mounted a vicious smear campaign against me," Jones said in his resignation statement. "They are using lies and distortions
to distract and divide."[9]

Jones is currently a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress and a senior policy advisor at Green For All. Jones also holds a joint
appointment at Princeton University, as a distinguished visiting fellow in both the Center for African American Studies and in the Program in Science,
Technology and Environmental Policy at the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs. Van Jones

some say he is Skull & Bones also.

By the way, what can you add about this MoveOn 99% spring movement ?
Is it pure theoretical communism ?

By the way, what can you add about this MoveOn 99% spring movement ?
Is it pure theoretical communism ?

Thanx for the info on Van whats-his-name, I really don't care.

I don't see anything wrong in training people in non-violent direct action, it's our right to protest after all. If protestors are trained to do it
correctly I would think it would reduce violence. What do you want, peoples freedoms taken away? And you're demonizing communism? I think you are
a fascist instigator.

Are you afraid of change? Afraid of people becoming aware of the reality of our economic system?

Mate you take the MSM too seriously, they demonize anything that threatens the economic system they're a part of. You'll never get true left wing
thinker on main stream radio, or the goggle box, they're all fake pseudo left-wingers who have no idea what socialism really is. They focus, like
all MSM, on irrelevant crap and never tackle the real ideas of worker ownership. It seems that capitalism is taken as a given by both sides of the
political spectrum according to the MSM.

It's just the working class organizing again, as they should. If not the state will become totalitarian. Capitalism does not guarantee that can not
happen.

Someone mentioned 'free-market' let's not confuse that with capitalism, they are not synonyms.

Capitalism does not guarantee 'free-markets', and in fact is not 'free-market' at all if you don't own, and make your living, from your ownership of
capital.

It is not a 'free-market' for those who sell their labour, the majority of us, as the worker has no control over the value of their labour, and the
surplus value of that labour is appropriated by capitalists for personal profit.

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