“What I value about a political event, or what I value about a dance party–I don’t know if those are very separate values at the end of the day.”

In this episode, Lani Hanna talks to Los Angeles-based artist and activist Steven Rodriguez about Southern California culture and identity, the whiteness of anarchism, and creating aesthetics around police brutality.

Music: “Ocean” by Zebra and “Stars” by She-Wolf., both courtesy of the Free Music Archive.