It's either of these two really. With my background I found the training laughable. No sparring whatsoever, no pressure testing, only overly-compliant 2/3 man drills. Seemingly typical Booj ridiculous stances and overly long punches.

Equipment:

2-4: Bring your own.

As the Booj uses "traditional" Japanese weapons like the sword along with the authentic "ninjer" weapons like the claws and sand (?), it seems everyone buys their own wooden equipment and brings it with them.

Gym Size:

5: We train at the park

They train at South Parks in Oxford on Tuesday and Thursday nights. I think this is because in the dark you can't see just how ridiculous a technique is. They claim it is because "in the street, a real fight won't have even ground like in a hall" and "you need to be used to uneven ground". It is the first time I have trained outside, and while it is nice to be in the fresh air, I felt so dumb rolling around in the grass with a load of overweight middle aged men/similarly overweight younger weaboos when I could be training something useful.

There are 2 instructors, one is a huge german guy who has some useful skills. I think he had trained some other arts before the booj though. The other instructor doesn't seem to have as much skill, but tries to cover that up with using unnecessary force on unresisting opponents. As it is the booj I think they are both highly ranked, though that means nothing.

They are nice guys, it's just a shame they believe their own hype. They hero worship their headmaster, Hasumi, and make all new students do "research" on the background of the "art".

After training has finished everyone sits down and talks about their experiences. I thought this was very creepy. Everyone says what they learned from the class, sucks up to the teacher a bit and talks about what elements (?!) they felt the class had. I.e., "this wrist lock felt like wind"

Striking instruction

1-3: No striking.

This was ridiculous. As they do not spar, they do not practice punching. They do the stupid Booj wind up and lunge punch, and we spent some time punching a tree once. When it comes to actual techniques they tend to take advantage of an overly compliant partner and hit them without resistance. This seems to make them think they are badass, but against a resistant opponent their punches are worthless.

I am reluctant to call it grappling. Again, the over-compliant drills, a few thows here and there, but no groundwork, only a few arm/wrist locks which wouldn't work on a struggling opponent. I resisted a bit and they were unable to get the locks on me. Would be destroyed in a ring.

In conclusion, this stuff will get their students killed or at least severely injured. They don't realise it because they drank all the kool-aid, but they belive hasumi's hype and believe they will be able to defend themselves on "the streets". The sense of smugness/confidence they have in their art is misplaced.

I don't know whether all Booj is like this, this was the closest club to me.

Thanks for the review dude, it's awesome to see things like the Booj get called out on this side of the pond as well. I always liked to think that Britain's smaller size helped to keep the fakers and frauds quieter than in larger countries, but that's just not the reality.

Disturbingly, over the course of the last 12 months or so, I seem to hear about more and more ninjers popping up in England. I just hope they stay away from my little island. You do kind of wonder how anyone who has an interest in the martial arts as well as an internet connection can justify training ninjer style.

Anyway, cheers man. Next time I hit the mainland, I'll definitely be avoiding that place!

I think alot of the things you said are true, alot of their techniques are usless in a real fight.But i think their idea of training outside on different and uneven ground levels is somthing that could be very useful, for example if you trained yourself to spot areas in the ground that would disrupt your opponents footing you could possibly use that to your advantage. I also think that some of the strikes they use can be very affective, such as the chops to the neck, strikes to eyes etc. I think there is much you can use from it, and you can disregard everything else that you dont think would work. Im glad to see someone actually test it for themselves before rushing to talk trash and dismiss it.

I was going to do this myself once, just to see what really goes on in one of these classes. The school I saw actually was a dual Shotokan and Ninjitsu school, but when I went to see a class it had secretly vanished. Sadly I missed my opportunity.

You have 15 years experience of MT yet decided not to inform the instructor? Did they notice your exceptional striking ability because it should have stood out as clear as Day.

It's good manners to inform the instructor. I'm familiar with BBs not disclosing their skillset before training yet it becomes obvious in the training itself.

I have no experience of the Booj group so have no opinion. Did you go there in with the intention to mock or to 'expose' them on Bullshido? If so, Why? Brownie points?

Why not share your extensive MT experience and point out MT Schools you've trained with and give an insight or guide for those who would wish it?

So, who's next for the hatchet job? The Budokwai?

Well, as I said, initially I went down to see what the fuss was about. It wasn't ever to "expose" anyone, I've only ever trained MT. I would have rather been pleasantly surprised that the techniques worked.

I don't give two fucks about impressing people on here, otherwise I'd tell them all I do BJJ and I omoplata'd a terrorist to death.

The main reason I joined was to let people know what my personal view of the club was. I think I was fair, as I said they are nice people, I just don't think their training is realistic.

There wasn't much striking in the classes I did, I had to do their lunge punch when it was necessary, and also a few knife-hand strikes. Nothing that would have given me away as a MT practitioner. You're right that I should have told them my background, this is the first time I've trained outside of MT, I stopped training a few years ago due to a knee injury. In future I will be upfront.

I don't give two fucks about impressing people on here, otherwise I'd tell them all I do BJJ and I omoplata'd a terrorist to death.

There wasn't much striking in the classes I did, I had to do their lunge punch when it was necessary, and also a few knife-hand strikes. Nothing that would have given me away as a MT practitioner. You're right that I should have told them my background, this is the first time I've trained outside of MT, I stopped training a few years ago due to a knee injury. In future I will be upfront.

You do give 2 fucks. It was your first post; usually a first post is in Newbietown to introduce yourself and experience.

BJJ? Good choice. In the interest of fairness, you might decide to keep your MT training to yourself...and share your experience afterwards with all of us. Me? I'd certainly tell the instructor. But that's just me. If you're curious, I'd get crunched...but it wouldn't worry me.

You do give 2 fucks. It was your first post; usually a first post is in Newbietown to introduce yourself and experience.

BJJ? Good choice. In the interest of fairness, you might decide to keep your MT training to yourself...and share your experience afterwards with all of us. Me? I'd certainly tell the instructor. But that's just me. If you're curious, I'd get crunched...but it wouldn't worry me.

If you read my post, you'd see that I only joined to tell people about this school. I trained with them a while ago, but just recently saw them advertising. The advert jolted my memory. I'll wander over to Newbietown later.