Orbán: No EU money should go to migrants

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán raised the prospect on Friday of blocking the EU’s long-term budget and said none of the bloc’s cash should go to migrants.

Orbán said Budapest would not approve the next Multiannual Financial Framework (MFF) if Budapest is not satisfied with its contents. The Commission unveiled its proposal for the budget on Wednesday but the final version must be approved unanimously by all EU member countries.

“This will be a long debate and negotiating process,” Orbán said in his weekly radio interview. “The Hungarians don’t need to worry. As long as the Hungarians don’t say that it can go, then there is no budget.”

“We don’t think that even a single cent should be given to migrants,” said Orbán, adding that others should pay for migration-related costs out of their own national budgets.

Funds should not be diverted from programs like regional development and research and given to “countries that let in migrants,” said Orbán, whose Fidesz party is a member of the European People’s Party (EPP) group.

Increased spending on dealing with migration is one of the centerpieces of the European Commission’s new budget proposal, and is a popular move among Southern European countries.

Orbán also said Hungary agrees with France that spending on agriculture should not be reduced, and reiterated his criticism of EU institutions.

“The largest faction in the European Parliament is not that of the EPP, but that of George Soros,” he said, referring to the Hungarian-American financier.

“We are the democrats, they are the bureaucrats,” he said of the EU, pledging to defend Hungary’s sovereignty.

This article is part of POLITICO’s new coverage of the EU budget, tracking the development of the seven-year Multiannual Financial Framework, and the first EU budget that will face a low or no contribution from the United Kingdom. This coverage includes the Budget Briefing newsletter every Monday afternoon. Email pro@politico.eu to request a complimentary trial.

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Irene Duym

So what does he propose in addition to already-existing Hungarian “detention camps”? The “final solution”? Blind hatred is his motto. Poor creature 🙁

Posted on 5/4/18 | 12:21 PM CEST

EU doublestandards

Why don’t you invite them all round to your gaff Irene, being as you’re feeling so hospitable?

Posted on 5/4/18 | 12:36 PM CEST

Bob Rob

Hungary is right, they show that you don’t need anything remotely approaching that €33 billion for the Eu to have effective and efficient border control / migration policies. And before people say you cannot build a physical barrier on the sea , well yes you can. You can make a floating barrier it would probably cost a fraction compared to the EU’s plans.

Posted on 5/4/18 | 12:42 PM CEST

Bob Rob

We can create a floating barrier system in the Mediterranean and we can put wind turbines and solar panels on it so we are literally and figuratively saving the climate in Europe. A floating green electrified fence that only powers on when a human is close.

Posted on 5/4/18 | 12:53 PM CEST

Stan

@Bob Rob
“A floating green electrified fence that only powers on when a human is close.”

😀 Get some sleep Bob.

Posted on 5/4/18 | 12:58 PM CEST

lib crit

“The largest faction in the European Parliament is not that of the EPP, but that of George Soros” …….. this Orban guy has serious issues………

Posted on 5/4/18 | 1:40 PM CEST

peter lintner

Orban is right, of course, as usual. Nothing good have come from mass migration. In Germany, police is clashing with migrants, 80% of them is unemployed, anti-semitism rising, crime rising, rape epidemics spreading all around the country. Not a single positive thing as a result of mass immigration. Worsening security, massive costs and cultural clashes. And EU´s policy now is to spread this instability all around Europe, so everyone can get its “fair share”. Europe is going back to pre-Enlightenment Era, back to irrational.

Posted on 5/4/18 | 2:04 PM CEST

peter lintner

Irene Duym
” So what does he propose in addition to already-existing Hungarian “detention camps”? The “final solution”? Blind hatred is his motto. Poor creature ”

Your post, hinting comparison with Holocaust, is laughable, illogical and irrational. Orban´s policy is to keep non-europeans out, hence you dont need, and actually cant have, any policy for those who are not even in your country. If your only argument is too call anyone who is against mass immigration a racist or facists, you have no argument. That´s your opinion about someone, which doesnt add anything to the discussion.

Posted on 5/4/18 | 2:08 PM CEST

Stiv Ocssor

Orban is a refreshing voice in the EU. An EU which is hellbent on destroying the ethnic and social fabric of Europe.
Orban clearly doesn’t want to follow in the steps of western Europe – who can blame him? Liberalism is clearly a mental disease.

Posted on 5/4/18 | 3:45 PM CEST

Trisul Kiboko

Hungary has not reached European civilisational levels, they need to be given back to Russia and the Byzantine civilisation that they share and love.

Posted on 5/4/18 | 3:45 PM CEST

That's right

Trisul Kiboko

It seems you’re right.

peter lintner, bob rob,
as always, you have no idea what you’re talking about. “bUIld A wAlL… oN tHe SEa!!” repeat and be proud of your geniality.

Migrants are already on the continent. They need to be integrated, taught the language and the culture so that they can contribute to our society.
Apparently we should do the same to people such as yourselves, born here(?) – even though, hoping you’re brits, you’ll get lost soon (in all senses).

Posted on 5/4/18 | 4:02 PM CEST

peter lintner

Trisul Kiboko

You ignorant self-hating clown. Hungary have been defending european civilisation for centuries. From Mongols, Ottomans, and now from idiocy of european “leaders”.

Posted on 5/4/18 | 4:04 PM CEST

f c

I don’t get how exactly EUr0crats want to compete with US, China while importing uneducated people with 3rd world mentality and unknown past, with more and more money spent on lifelong social benefits for them and while destroying values and principles which allowed Europe to become the best place to live on the whole planet ?!?

I don’t see how it could be a winning strategy.

Posted on 5/4/18 | 4:34 PM CEST

peter lintner

That’s right (not sure it is, but whatever)

All illegal immigrant needs to be sent back home, since they broke a law, ie commited a crime. That´s what EU keep talking about, rule of law. When you do something illegal, you break a law, ie you are criminal. Now, EU want to legalise a crime, perfect idea how to fight for “rule of law”. Only in the EU.

We live in 21 century, you can build a “virtual” wall anywhere, including on sea. Welcome to the 21 century, pal.

And yes, i agree with “f c” above. We are losing on China, we are losing on US and EU strategy is to catch up by bringing unskilled, uneducated africans or impossible-to-integrate muslims? Ah, those genuises in Brussels …

Posted on 5/4/18 | 4:42 PM CEST

maciek maciek

Orban knows well, what he is talking on illegal migration and why.
To stop illegals effectively any country must simply protect its borders.
Duly protecting EU outside borders is a primary obligation of Schengen Treaty countries.
This can be done by simple measures and Hungary proved it. Southern RIm countries failed big on this obligation and not without purpose. Irresponsible and often corrupted politicians let human traffickers, some ngo’s and some real estate owners make a lot o money at the expence of native Europeans.
Germany’s and the EU’s officials added to the grave problem of illegal migation.
Those responsible must pay the cost, not all Europeans exposed to grave dangers by irresponsible few.
And EUrope must finally seal its borders. Hundreds of millions Africans and Asians dream of coming to our towns and villages. We must stop illegal migration for the sake of our children and for the sake of peace in Europe.

Posted on 5/4/18 | 5:14 PM CEST

F Bloggs

“That’s right”

You think no one has been spending billions teaching them the language, feeding, housing and educating them for years?
Soros wants migrants in Hungary so he can force the Hungarian government to borrow money (presumably from him) to pay for them all.
Well the truth is that many migrants, those who want to integrate, do so pretty efficiently by themselves when arriving in small numbers, and if they are from a reasonably compatible culture.
Those currently arriving are coming in huge numbers and with few exceptions don’t want to integrate and work, they rock up expecting flats, cars and western girlfriends to be handed to them for free.
This isn’t migration, it’s invasion, and Hungary was in the forefront of it in recent years so their opinion is not to be discounted.

Posted on 5/4/18 | 5:33 PM CEST

Irene Duym

@peter lintner
Well, let’s agree with disagree. I fully disagree with you for a long, long, long time. It is my privilege. Feel free to disagree with me the same way.

Posted on 5/4/18 | 5:52 PM CEST

peter lintner

@ Irene Duym

Well, I do 😉

Posted on 5/4/18 | 6:06 PM CEST

Irene Duym

@peter lintner
Sorry to say so but you are laughable if you pretend there is no link between Orban’s rejection and Hitler’s. Wake up.

Posted on 5/4/18 | 7:01 PM CEST

Irene Duym

@@peter lintner
Re my previous post: ….. unless, of course, you enjoy and agree to Orban’s thinking. Anyone “different” out or in camps? Great move forward from a human point of view. Congrats….. You haven’t learnt anything, have you?

Posted on 5/4/18 | 7:03 PM CEST

contango one

@ Irene Duym

hey Irene howbout that

it appears time is fast approaching we’re gonna have to slowly start rounding up all those latte sipping 5 column lefty kumbayas like ur self

Posted on 5/4/18 | 7:18 PM CEST

Florian Cimpean

I’d like to remind Orban that Hungary is free to leave the EU any time they want. Nobody is forcing Hungary to stay in the EU nor to respect the rule of law.

Posted on 5/4/18 | 7:28 PM CEST

Geza K

@Florian
Merkel, Juncker go to jail.

Posted on 5/4/18 | 7:51 PM CEST

peter lintner

@ Irene Duym

” Re my previous post: ….. unless, of course, you enjoy and agree to Orban’s thinking. Anyone “different” out or in camps? Great move forward from a human point of view. Congrats….. You haven’t learnt anything, have you? ”

Are you kidding? I mean, really. Anyone different in camp? Where, in Hungary? Where did you get that from? You need to read some real media, not just the liberal rubish.

Illegal immigrant, hope you understand the word illegal, ie breaking law, are put in detention facilities until their case is reviewed. They dont want to be put in detention facilities? Simple. Stop breaking law. Only in your liberal lala-land are criminals at large.

No argument in your post again. Next try ….

Posted on 5/4/18 | 8:02 PM CEST

peter lintner

@ Irene Duym

” Sorry to say so but you are laughable if you pretend there is no link between Orban’s rejection and Hitler’s. Wake up.”

Tell me the link between Orban and Hitler. Go ahead. Im curious.

Posted on 5/4/18 | 8:05 PM CEST

Darius Na

Too right! All EU countries contribute to the EU budget, even those that in the end receive more than they contribute, based on EU lawful formula. So all must be consulted and all must agree on disbursement of funds.
Veto it, Viktor.

Posted on 5/4/18 | 8:40 PM CEST

Donal O'Brien

Att Comment

@ darius na

You are so right Everyone Contributes to the Gravy Train

They as in BRUSSELS try to make it look that there is a Group Supporting all

Not True

Even those who are being projects as Receivers of Moneys are also paying

Allways remember that Brussels never say much about the Vat they receive or the Tariffs collected by each State and 75% of that Tariff sent to them

They like to give the impression there paying out as the supporter to Countrys
Not True

What Countrys are receiving is European Tax Payers Money

What Brussels does is make sure they are paid first

Mr ORBAN is the Democratically Elected
P/M of Hungary
And has every right to project the feelings of his people and express there Wishes

To hell with the begrudgers

Regards

Cheers for Brexit
Allways
Donal O’Brien

Posted on 5/4/18 | 9:22 PM CEST

f c

@Geza K
The problem is that Germans have never been able to get rid of leaders that were leading them straight into the abyss.
May be again – just like in 1945 someone else should do it, but this time hopefully before it is too late.

There are some positive developments already by the way. The EU is not able to deal with dieselgate scandal but someone else apparently is able to tackle it:
“Volkswagen ex-CEO Martin Winterkorn charged in the US over Dieselgate scandal.
Winterkorn faces up to 25 years in prison and a fine if found guilty.”

Posted on 5/4/18 | 11:48 PM CEST

Klaus Wekx

The EU’s borders should be the collective responsibility of the whole EU.
It is not fair to leave the responsibilty and the burden of cost on the outlying members when it is to the benefit of all member states. Once again, the less well off member states have to pay the burden of securing the market for the richer ones.

Posted on 5/5/18 | 4:33 AM CEST

Klaus Wekx

@f cI don’t get how exactly EUr0crats want to compete with US, China while importing uneducated people with 3rd world mentality and unknown past, with more and more money spent on lifelong social benefits for them and while destroying values and principles which allowed Europe to become the best place to live on the whole planet ?!? I don’t see how it could be a winning strategy.
—————————————-

It’s cheap labour to hold wages and manufacturing costs down.
Maybe the EU is engaged in a human version of a “race to the bottom” in order to sustatin it’s position in the World where the EU’s ability to compete is diminishing?
Simply storing up trouble for the future?

Posted on 5/5/18 | 5:09 AM CEST

Arnold Nussbaum

You will not change any behaviour unless you change the reason for that behaviour.
You have migration, not because their is work in Europe or because their is corruption in their home region.
There is migration because you give them money to spend, free movement to earn extra (mainly by illegal means) and a society that is so free that they get the impression everything is allowed and they get a free lawyer if they get caught.
Change those parameters and you will their behaviour too.

Posted on 5/5/18 | 5:13 AM CEST

Arnold Nussbaum

And I just hate those automatic correction systems imposed on us by semi-literate programmers.

Posted on 5/5/18 | 5:15 AM CEST

Bob Rob

@Klaus Wekx

The Schengen zone has as a requirement for entry the ability to secure ones non-Schengen borders. If applying states cannot do this they must be expelled from the Schengen zone and border controls restored.

Posted on 5/5/18 | 5:55 AM CEST

Bob Rob

@Klause Wekx

Forgot to add that the EU cannot be made responsible as member states like Greece have disputed borders which means the EU becomes a party within this dispute. Greek border guards have already been arrested by Turkish authorities.

Posted on 5/5/18 | 6:01 AM CEST

Zan _

No asylum should be granted to criminal illegal aliens (definition: anyone who crossed any of the EU borders without proper permission / VISA). Any asylums that were already granted must be withdrawn and all of the illegals must be collected and deported.
The rule of law must be restored within the EU and ASAP; the budget is providing an excellent opportunity to establish the framework of that corrected approach.
If the budget will reflect the current chaos policy driven by Germany then lawlessness (aka liberal European values) will be confirmed and the EU will continue to fall apart.
Hungary, the V4 plus others to join must never surrender.

Posted on 5/5/18 | 11:03 AM CEST

Irene Duym

@peter lintner
If you don’t see the link, I can’t help you, sorry.

Posted on 5/5/18 | 1:40 PM CEST

peter lintner

@ Irene Duym

“If you don’t see the link, I can’t help you, sorry.”

I dont see because there isnt, which is also proved by your inability to provide one.

Posted on 5/5/18 | 4:39 PM CEST

Priscilla du Bleu

@peter lintner
“@ Irene Duym

” Sorry to say so but you are laughable if you pretend there is no link between Orban’s rejection and Hitler’s. Wake up.”

peter lintner

Martijn Hondema

“No EU money should go to migrants?” No, no EU money should go to Hungary – money in the EU budget to mitigate the migration problem is meant to bring long term solutions (such as providing human care for refugees in the countries of origin), whereas money spent on subsidies in Hungary go straight into a huge corruption machine!