Because my husband and I had a 2-year-old son together we decided that we could keep our marriage together for his sake

Yeah that's not gonna work. Your second kid is a daily reminder to your husband that you're a lying cheating slut. Your relationship is going to fail, it is probably already terrible and your husband is wasting his years of life with you. He should teach his 2 year old son to not take that sort of shiat, divorce your sorry ass and kick you out of the house.

accelerus:I'd love to know if the REAL father of the black baby pays child support, or does anything even remotely needed to help pay for the kid.

It's obvious the woman is a lying cheating whore, she just had to go out and get some big black cack and was stupid enough to get knocked up.

The sad thing is the biggest dumb ass in the whole equation is the hubby for staying with her. I'd have taken my real daughter and told the whore and tyrone to live happily ever after in their crack shack.

Holy shiat. For all the information we have, this lady could have gone out to a nice establishment and picked up an attractive, successful black man and had a one-night stand with him. She may have never spoken to him again, he may not even know she had a child by him. We know nothing about him except the fact that this lady had sex with him at least once and that he's a black male.

And based on "black male", you deliver a rant in which he's a deatbeat father named Tyrone who smokes crack and lives in squalor. Frankly I'm just surprised you didn't start off your post with, "Im not a racist, but..."

Crewmannumber6:miscreant: Maybe the husband actually gets off on that. Isn't there a whole porn genre based on this?

I can't watch porn with black dudes in it

BWHAHAHAHAHA!! Its not our fault.

In other news, I'm starting to see what folks are saying about Farkers and their female bashing. Maybe I just never paid it much attention before, but you all sound like a bunch of scorned females. The anger directed at this woman seems to be coming from a very personal place in some cases. The guy decided to stick it out and keep his family intact. Is it the decision that I would have made? Hell no. But, how much of a hypocrite do you have to be to pontificate about absentee fathers in other threads and then to come in here and complain that this guy didn't run crying into the woods when he found out his wife was a cheater. The EASIEST thing that he could do is run away and vilify her to family, friends, and the child. He's doing the HARDEST thing that anyone could do in this situation. He's being a man and trying to keep his vows. Sure, I see how you could twist that to be something weak, I just don't understand why you would.

I was out at the bar the other night with some of female acquaintances. One of the women is this amazingly cute little brunette who was lamenting us all night about how hard it was to find a "good man". I was perplexed at first because she was an extremely cute, educated, employed, and generally took care of herself well. I was curious where the hangup was.

Several beers later (and much more cavalier with letting my thoughts be known), I decided to "help" her figure out what she was doing wrong. Immediately I asked her if she had a child, and she did. It seemed the child was damn near black as night even though she was white, and she informed it it was a bad breakup with the "poor excuse for a father". Lets just say I got an earful that night from her friend because I told her the truth that: "there was no way any white, good-looking, intelligent, well-off, fun, Midwestern guys are going to shack up with a single mother who has a mixed race baby and has daddy issues. You might as well find another black dude that doesn't care if you have a kid."

Reality can be harsh at times. If you're a single white mother with a black child .... good luck

FFS, just tell the damn kid that his little sister had a different father, but Mommy and Daddy love *both* of the kids no matter what.

The child will encounter other kids with half-siblings, step-siblings, and adopted siblings. It's not exactly rare these days. All he needs to know is that they're a family. Don't make those kids feel shame over a situation they had nothing to do with.It's not the fault of the two kids. Those kids need love and support. The adults have to straighten up and get their shiat together.

I can forgive a lot, but that would be too much. As much as I would fear losing custody of my kid, I would divorce and sue for full custody of the one she had with me. Let her get the other guy to take care of their child.

Why would you decide it was a good idea to have this child? Why would you stay with her after that? It isn't like your marriage is healthy, get a divorce immediately. You are not helping any of the children by staying together.

Just come out and say "My husband loves to watch me get boned by BBC on a regular basis. One time we got carried away in the moment and he wanted to see his wife get a creampie from another dude."

Also the one about the lady getting off from the Maseur is a complete double standard. If a dude popped wood getting a rub down and wanted to go back and enjoy that this woman would probably be all over him for having a cheating mind.

Just out of curiosity, is infidelity of a spouse useful in custody hearings? Like, showing that someone is an unfit parent? 'Cause if so, I would think divorce would be the best option here.

My wife and I have an understanding on this. Just about anything will be forgiven, but not infidelity. No second chances. Trust is absolutely necessary for a working marriage, and once trust is violated to that degree, it can probably never be regained.

(I work from home and my wife is a stay at home mom, so it's not like we have a lot of opportunities to be unfaithful. Also, I'm amazed I have even one woman in the world who's interested in me anyway, so it's not like I'm going to cheat.)

I hope so, that would be better than the stats that say 70%+ of black kids grow up without a father.

I understand from your posts that you are a devoted father, so good on you for bucking that sad trend.

Smh. How dumb do you have to be to believe that. There is a difference between growing up without a father and growing up without a father "in the home". And from this thread, no one seems to have a problem with children being raised in single parent homes because all of these pussies would have run away from their responsibility in an emotional huff because the mother was a cheater. I guess you only see a problem when its a black child. Should tell you something about yourself.

Now you're being a douche bag. There is no part of a "mans responsibility" that dictates he has to cohabitate with a woman that's cheated on him and had a baby by another man. He has a responsiblity certainly to his biological son, but I'd say that even in all this - where is the daughters biological father? Oh that's right, he's not in the picture. You're dancing around this if you ask me because it's uncomfortable. Whatever - but your opinion of what a mans responsibilities is, is frankly, rather regressive. It's no more correct than say, a woman staying with a husband that abuses her emotionally or physically simply because leaving would be "avoiding her womans responsibilities".

Slow down. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of Farkers. You all sit on high horses looking down at the unwed with children as if they are rubbish...then you come in here talking about how fast you would have gotten rid of that biatch for cheating. Is marriage til death do you part or not? And if you treat your marriage the same way you treat going steady in high school, then what the fark was the point in getting married. Not only are people in this thread totally looking past the vows that are so sacred any other time, they're deriding the father who DID STAY as some sort of pussy. I clearly stated earler in the thread that I WOULD NOT have stayed in the relationship, but I'm not the one who runs into these threads to talk down about single parents. When exactly did it become OK to raise a child in a single parent home? If I never marry my childs mother I'm part of the problem, but if I run out of the house when times get tough then I'm sensible? GTFO of here with that bullshiat.

I hope so, that would be better than the stats that say 70%+ of black kids grow up without a father.

I understand from your posts that you are a devoted father, so good on you for bucking that sad trend.

Smh. How dumb do you have to be to believe that. There is a difference between growing up without a father and growing up without a father "in the home". And from this thread, no one seems to have a problem with children being raised in single parent homes because all of these pussies would have run away from their responsibility in an emotional huff because the mother was a cheater. I guess you only see a problem when its a black child. Should tell you something about yourself.

Now you're being a douche bag. There is no part of a "mans responsibility" that dictates he has to cohabitate with a woman that's cheated on him and had a baby by another man. He has a responsiblity certainly to his biological son, but I'd say that even in all this - where is the daughters biological father? Oh that's right, he's not in the picture. You're dancing around this if you ask me because it's uncomfortable. Whatever - but your opinion of what a mans responsibilities is, is frankly, rather regressive. It's no more correct than say, a woman staying with a husband that abuses her emotionally or physically simply because leaving would be "avoiding her womans responsibilities".

Karac:evaned: Karac: In this case though, ever single person who ever sees his family for the rest of his life is going to see the older white son, the younger black daughter, do the math and know that she cheated on him.

And they'll know that (1) the son is his biological son and (2) that the daughter wasn't adopted how?

Obviously people who know him somewhat well would be able to deduce it, but "every single person who sees his family"? I'm gonna go with "no". They might guess it, but there are multiple other explanations without that information above.

OK then, decent point. How about we limit my previous statement to everyone in his family, friends, neighbors, fellow churchgoers, and occasional bystanders who noticed that the wife was pregnant while the daughter while married to him.

Look, please don't take this personally but you all sound like a bunch of biatches. You're going to make a life-changing decision and base it on "what everybody is going to think about you??" That's some punk ass shiat. You have ONE life to live. No one can live it for you. So, why let somebody's opinion steer you in one direction or another. Not one of those people with an opinion is going to be with you at night. None of them are supporting you in any way. This is the life philosophy of a teenaged girl. Man the fark up. Men do what they want and suckers do what they can. If you live life as a slave to the expectations of others, you're a sucker.

jackieeeee:No kidding! A few posters sound more offended that the white woman dared to have sex and a child with a black guy as opposed to cheating on her husband.

Well, it is a little worse for her to have had an affair and child with a black guy than a white guy. If the baby daddy had been white, then the hubby could have just sucked it up and said 'we're never going to discuss this again. Not the two of us, not your biatch of a mother, not the kids, not the neighbors - nobody.' He could have just buried it and gone on hating postmen and plumbers for the rest of his life with no one the wiser.

In this case though, ever single person who ever sees his family for the rest of his life is going to see the older white son, the younger black daughter, do the math and know that she cheated on him. He's going to have people laughing behind his back and making him the butt of jokes until they're all dead and buried.

I really hate to say it, but DROX didn't really go off the deep end on this one.

But he did miss one major point. He bashes conservatives and/or general-purpose FARKERS with his perception of hypocrisy about the unwed mother thing versus divorcing the letter writer, he refuses to acknowledge too many people in society fark around with no thought to the well-being of bastard offspring.

While every race has it's out-of-wedlock issues, statistically blacks rank the highest and have a culture of it completely foreign to most others in a civilized society. The goal for most everyone is to have a stable family unit and in this case the whore of a wife is making it very difficult. The husband is doing something very few would do and is trying to maintain that family unit. My perception, based on what I see and the statistics, is there is minimal, if any, shame in the black community for young mothers or mothers with many children by many guys. And the guys have little, if any, shame about having kids all over their neighborhoods.

Shame and peer pressure are excellent tools if used properly. It's not normal or healthy in the long run to say it's allright to fark around without a family plan in case there are children resulting from said farking around.

At the very least, I find it astounding that according to pure statistics that are over-represented by the black community so many of the people are confused about condoms and birth control pills.

DROxINxTHExWIND:WeenerGord: DROxINxTHExWIND: lennavan: DROxINxTHExWIND: What you are doing, including responding to me over the course of two days, is the opposite of ignoring my posts. Maybe the problem with your reading comprehension can be attributed to a limited vocabulary? I won't waste time showing you where you're wrong about your interpretations of the posts above. You've already admitted that you don't like to read.

This post made me feel kinda bad. Like I just beat up on the stupid kid in class. Look, I'm sorry DRO. I guess the thing that stuck out from your posts was the irony and the hypocrisy. You told everyone to listen to your opinion which was don't listen to other people's opinions. You cried about others racism, only to move on about how black men were stealing white women because they are better and have larger penises. Then after many posts saying everyone in the thread is a biatch teenaged girl emo pussy you said we were all on our high horses. You spent a thread chastising people who said the husband should leave the wife, only to later admit you would have left her too. After all of that, you called us hypocrites.

Hey look, do one or the other. Call us emo pussies, or tell us we're on our high horses. You can't do both. That's all I was sayin. I'm sorry I had to call you out like that. We know folks don't like gettin called out.

You're not real good at this. Lol.

Yeah, he is real good at it. You got served, biatch.

Racists...UNITE! Lol. Do you all have to touch rings whenever you combine powers? So, this is the state of racism today, huh? A couple of squares on the internet, virtually crossing swords. Your grandfathers must be proud.

Actually, if you are descended from slaves, and have any white blood...those are YOUR GRANDFATHERS.

DROxINxTHExWIND:What you are doing, including responding to me over the course of two days, is the opposite of ignoring my posts. Maybe the problem with your reading comprehension can be attributed to a limited vocabulary? I won't waste time showing you where you're wrong about your interpretations of the posts above. You've already admitted that you don't like to read.

This post made me feel kinda bad. Like I just beat up on the stupid kid in class. Look, I'm sorry DRO. I guess the thing that stuck out from your posts was the irony and the hypocrisy. You told everyone to listen to your opinion which was don't listen to other people's opinions. You cried about others racism, only to move on about how black men were stealing white women because they are better and have larger penises. Then after many posts saying everyone in the thread is a biatch teenaged girl emo pussy you said we were all on our high horses. You spent a thread chastising people who said the husband should leave the wife, only to later admit you would have left her too. After all of that, you called us hypocrites.

Hey look, do one or the other. Call us emo pussies, or tell us we're on our high horses. You can't do both. That's all I was sayin. I'm sorry I had to call you out like that. We know folks don't like gettin called out.

lennavan:Koalaesq: Another recent-ish NJ case had this fantastic turn of events: A father was getting a divorce from the mother. In NJ, you have to pay for child support through college. Mom applied for child support, and dad brought that up that he knew the kid wasn't even his, and refused to pay child support. Dad tried to get a DNA test to prove it, but since he had basically sat on his rights for 18 years and it would not benefit the kid, the court refused to let him off the hook and said he had to pay for the kid's college and continue to be the putative father.

Seems just a NJ twist (the college bit instead of 18 years old) on a common theme. I've seen other cases similar, where essentially a father who acts as a father for a long time later finds out he is not, still has to continue paying support. It sucks, I'm not entirely sure how I feel about it but honestly, I think I agree with it. When you sign the birth certificate and agree you're the father, that's that. It's not the kid's fault the mother is a lying ho-bag.

I'm sure that people who commit fraud also have kids to support, but that doesn't mean the court should uphold the contracts based on that fraud.

If it's so important to the state that the kid should be cared for, then it is the responsibility of the state to pick up the tab.

lennavan:DROxINxTHExWIND: Pfffft. I bet your ass thought you said something real slick when you posted that.

Says the guy discussing unwed people when the article we are all commenting on is about a married chick?

His point is that a jillion people in this thread were encouraging the husband to turn the couple into unwed parents, ie. to break up the marriage, but when the discussion turned more towards race unwed parents were suddenly a big problem. His point is, "Which is it, Fark?"

inner ted:feffer: inner ted: and double lulz if you have a law degree and are just a freaking legal assistant

Oh sweetie. :( Does it hurt to be so dumb? Try googling "Legal Aid".

it's ok sugar, i'm well familiar with what a legal aid is

what part of the grown ups talking confused you?

NOT "a" legal aide, "LEGAL AID" the entity you nitwit. It's an organization of lawyers who are either subsidized or paid for fully by the government/courts. It's lawyers for poor people, and before you get accepted as a client, there's an intake process to see if you qualify.

inner ted:second - when i was at the local public defenders office, legal assistants / legal aids are the people that assist the attorney & investigator. they keep in contact with the client - schedule court appearances - you know, secretary type work.

inner ted:feffer: inner ted: feffer: inner ted: and double lulz if you have a law degree and are just a freaking legal assistant

Oh sweetie. :( Does it hurt to be so dumb? Try googling "Legal Aid".

it's ok sugar, i'm well familiar with what a legal aid is

what part of the grown ups talking confused you?

I really don't think you are.

you show me the part that is causing you trouble, and i'll be happy to explain where you erred.

or you can just say some flippant shiat with nothing to back it up all while calling me juvenile.

& not see the irony

you know, whichever

The part that is causing me trouble is you ridiculing an attorney who works with low-income clients by comparing him/her to a secretary. "Legal aid" isn't an alternate title for paralegal, and you made yourself look like an ignorant asshole.

There is an easy white lie to tell this kid until he's old enough to hear the "full" spiel...and it's simply this:

We were on a break. Things happen. We got back together, we love you, we love each other, and we love your sister. The end.

Assuming these people have reconciled and are truly making it work, that's all the reassurance a kid needs. This letter could have had a lot of details edited out for length...you don't know the status of the couple's relationship.

Having no father around is a problem regardless of race. Statistics say the problem is much more common among blacks. Just another thing that can't be discussed without it "saying something about the person who mentions it" to paraphrase your sentiment. That won't lead to improvement in the situation.

Gunther:TwistedFark: That's why it's worse. It's going to be really hard on that kid and that family because the infidelity will be front and center and on display every day

Sure, but the impression I'm getting from a heck of a lot of farkers in this thread is that they're waaaaaay madder that a white chick had sex with a black dude rather than that a woman had a kid that was obviously not her husbands.

To be honest, I read every post in this thread up to this point and while yes there are some jackholes, I sort of think you may be reading too much into some people's responses.

For me, I feel bad for the little girl because of the situation and how it's going to bring her a lot of undeserved shame over her life. I feel bad for the husband in particular just because it doesn't appear that the letter writer is actually contrite about the affair and that there was an emotional reconcilliation (they stayed together "for their son"). I don't feel particularly bad for the woman because she had multiple choices here - not have an affair, use contraception, have an abortion or give the child up for adoption - or lets face it, getting a divorce.

Given what limited information we have, I think that the scenario most likely in play here was that this woman wanted out of her marriage, slept around, then once she got pregnant by another man and obviously couldn't hide it, stayed married for the financial support and security. Sure the husband may be a stand up guy and trying to do the right thing by his son, but if that's the case, I question his judgement here since without some sort of indication that the family is actually reconciled and not just suffering a burden, this is all going to go disasterously tits up eventually.

Gunther:DROxINxTHExWIND: In other news, I'm starting to see what folks are saying about Farkers and their female bashing. Maybe I just never paid it much attention before, but you all sound like a bunch of scorned females. The anger directed at this woman seems to be coming from a very personal place in some cases.

Why, it's almost like a large percentage of Farkers are bitter 40-ish male divorcees.

DROxINxTHExWIND: The EASIEST thing that he could do is run away and vilify her to family, friends, and the child. He's doing the HARDEST thing that anyone could do in this situation. He's being a man and trying to keep his vows

More likely he doesn't want his kid to grow up without a dad. Which I respect, but think it's probably the wrong move in the long term - kids with single parents tend to be better adjusted than kids with parents who stayed together but who hated each other.

/the racism in this thread is actually more troubling than the sexism.//seriously, why does the race of the other guy make it worse?

Don't be stupid. The reason it "makes it worse" is the exact same reason why she is writing to an advice column in the first place. Her little boy knows what's up and is asking questions, the little girl is sure as hell going to figure it out some day and most people who know them, will if they are lucky, keep their mouths shut but nod knowingly to each other.

Imagine being the little girl - imagine wondering if everyone who meets you knows that you're the product of an affair. Imagine trying to fit in with even your extended family with everyone obviously knowing something is different (it's not like they can avoid the question now, can they?)

That's why it's worse. It's going to be really hard on that kid and that family because the infidelity will be front and center and on display every day. As much as the MIL cops grief for saying that the girl was adopted, I bet that when she finds out the truth she's going to wish she really was adopted.

Gunther:DROxINxTHExWIND: In other news, I'm starting to see what folks are saying about Farkers and their female bashing. Maybe I just never paid it much attention before, but you all sound like a bunch of scorned females. The anger directed at this woman seems to be coming from a very personal place in some cases.

/the racism in this thread is actually more troubling than the sexism.//seriously, why does the race of the other guy make it worse?

Because a good portion of farkers seem to be old school racists. Not funny, un-PC, ethnic jokes racist but mean, hateful racist. Seriously, the things I read in the Trayvon threads caused a small part of my humanity to die.

Karac:In this case though, ever single person who ever sees his family for the rest of his life is going to see the older white son, the younger black daughter, do the math and know that she cheated on him.

And they'll know that (1) the son is his biological son and (2) that the daughter wasn't adopted how?

Obviously people who know him somewhat well would be able to deduce it, but "every single person who sees his family"? I'm gonna go with "no". They might guess it, but there are multiple other explanations without that information above.

ongbok:lennavan: Koalaesq: any child born to a married man and woman automatically means the husband is considered the dad, even if the mom suspects or knows the child was born of cuckoldry. So depending on the state, yes, the husband may be deemed the actual father of the child.

We have that here in IL. If the mom knows he is not the father, like in this article, the father has two possible ways to protest. One is for him and the mother to both sign a denial of paternity form where they voluntarily agree he is not the father, the other is to get a DNA test.

Isn't there a lot of legal paperwork and money involved in this? I'm from IL also, and I know a guy that went through this. It is a long story that would have sent most men over the edge, and almost did it to him, but short version is he wasn't married to the woman, they were engaged and he had signed the birth certificate, then almost 2 years later he found out he wasn't the father. He was able to do it, but like I said it was a long process and cost him a lot of money in legal fees.

It cost him a lot of money because he was a farking moron. You ask for the paternity test before you sign shiat. This means every time you have a kid too.

Only suckers convince themselves that they can trust their women in such a situation. You can't. And you women who flip out over us asking for a paternity test: fark you.

I'd love to know if the REAL father of the black baby pays child support, or does anything even remotely needed to help pay for the kid.

It's obvious the woman is a lying cheating whore, she just had to go out and get some big black cack and was stupid enough to get knocked up.

The sad thing is the biggest dumb ass in the whole equation is the hubby for staying with her. I'd have taken my real daughter and told the whore and tyrone to live happily ever after in their crack shack.

Mom is a bit overweight, has died blonde hair and self esteem issues? checkSis goes directly into Special Ed while brother gets good grades? check

Not too much to figure out.

Can I say, I don't believe there is a husband? No man would put up with that. I think the state has become the husband for her. I see stupid hippie chicks with mocha babies all the time. Single moms raising ugly babies that don't like them on welfare. Black dads don't stick around girls. sad

Lord Dimwit:miss diminutive: Lord Dimwit: I work from home and my wife is a stay at home mom, so it's not like we have a lot of opportunities to be unfaithful.

Sorry, she's cheating on you with another furry from Second Life.

I keed, I keed.

I think infidelity is a dealbreaker for most people though. Especially if the cheating results in a child...which means she probably wasn't using protection and could have brought home all kinds of nastiness.

A family friend found out her husband was cheating on her when she got some STD from him. Found out later that he'd been cheating on her for years. She kicked him out of the house and was going to divorce him, but then decided that she couldn't handle four kids on her own and let him back in. Sucks all around (which is not to imply anything other than 100% of the guilt lies on the husband).

I'd argue that if

1.) Your spouse is cheating on you2.) Your spouse cheats on you for years without you know it

Your relationship was pretty bad. And since relationships are formed by both people in them, I'd say the blame should be shared by both people.

Lord Dimwit:I work from home and my wife is a stay at home mom, so it's not like we have a lot of opportunities to be unfaithful.

Sorry, she's cheating on you with another furry from Second Life.

I keed, I keed.

I think infidelity is a dealbreaker for most people though. Especially if the cheating results in a child...which means she probably wasn't using protection and could have brought home all kinds of nastiness.

GORDON:I can forgive a lot, but that would be too much. As much as I would fear losing custody of my kid, I would divorce and sue for full custody of the one she had with me. Let her get the other guy to take care of their child.

Drox probably cuckolds white guys on a regular basis, and doesn't like being forced to reflect on the unpleasant aftermath of his hedonistic, amoral behavior.That's the best explanation I've got for him aggressively playing the race card in defense of two degenerates ( the unfaithful wife and the homewrecker of a 'lover'. )

DROxINxTHExWIND:lennavan: DROxINxTHExWIND: What you are doing, including responding to me over the course of two days, is the opposite of ignoring my posts. Maybe the problem with your reading comprehension can be attributed to a limited vocabulary? I won't waste time showing you where you're wrong about your interpretations of the posts above. You've already admitted that you don't like to read.

This post made me feel kinda bad. Like I just beat up on the stupid kid in class. Look, I'm sorry DRO. I guess the thing that stuck out from your posts was the irony and the hypocrisy. You told everyone to listen to your opinion which was don't listen to other people's opinions. You cried about others racism, only to move on about how black men were stealing white women because they are better and have larger penises. Then after many posts saying everyone in the thread is a biatch teenaged girl emo pussy you said we were all on our high horses. You spent a thread chastising people who said the husband should leave the wife, only to later admit you would have left her too. After all of that, you called us hypocrites.

Hey look, do one or the other. Call us emo pussies, or tell us we're on our high horses. You can't do both. That's all I was sayin. I'm sorry I had to call you out like that. We know folks don't like gettin called out.

Very few people have addressed the actual point of the letter. The adoption story told to a little girl was valid and nothing to be upset about. What did they prefer the old lady say? "Go ask your parents", which opens the door to her asking pointed questions about a scandal, or "Your mom cheated on your dad with a black dude", which tells the whole story?

As for the cheating itself, there's no way in hell I would ever tolerate a marriage with a biatch who cheated on me. If my wife hated me enough to spread'em for someone else, she should just divorce me and not act like a feral animal. Most everyone feels the same way--it's not an issue of marital vows--those were trashed by the letter-writer. It's an issue of being a dumb ganglia-driven twat who didn't have the fortitude to behave like a civilized human being.

The brownness of the guy who farked her just makes the issue more obvious and more difficult for everyone to accept the situation for what it is and move past it without questions from people outside the family.

These days, though, I would personally just assume the brown kid was adopted. Probably 20% of the people I know have adopted Asian or black kids.

Except two girls I know who are the exact stereotype exaggerated here in the thread. Both had rage issues against their families while in early-college (youngest kids in the family overshadowed by over-achieving siblings) and rebelled by farking every "Daddy will hate this" dick they could find. They both got knocked up by black dudes who ditched their responsibilities. Their families are so proud, but what can they do? The little kids are still sweet little kids and the grandchildren. And the grandparents have the shame of raising kids who went off the rails.

/But those "stereotypical" situations are just two out of many other brown-kids-with-white-families I see, so should the new stereotypical default be "Huh--I guess the kid is adopted."?

WeenerGord:MagSeven: 1. If he doesn't know about the kid how is he supposed to support it?2. I never said he shouldn't support the kid. But if he doesn't know about it, how can he?3. A "lover" doesn't have to be a regular thing. The "slut" didn't say it was a regular thing either. I read it as a one night stand, you didn't. It can go both ways.4. I was saying it wasn't a race thing based on it being a one night stand. As many in this thread are implying or outright saying, they think he won't take care of the kid just because he's black. Not because he may not know about it.

These are all speculations based on how I interpreted the article. You have yours, I have mine. There are unanswered questions and vague details.

If he didn't know, he's going to know about it now. It's been published in the farking papers and on the internet. Now the whole world is going to know. Including everyone at the kids school, the neighbors, everybody.

I just know that the next million letters Prudence gets is gonna be from all the yearning, would be black fathers who ever had a one night stand, asking for this woman's name and address so they can track down their possible daughter and meet her and have a relationship with her and support her and make sure she knows her culture and where she came from. Or, you know, just to find the location of an easy slut who they won't ever have to be responsible for because some dumb cuckold is already doing that. Hell, maybe she wrote the letter as a way of hanging her shingle out. Some people are into that, as has already seen said.

If the Husband goes to Court and disestablishes paternity, they'll be able to sift through DNA records collected via incarceration to potentially find the father and start billing him - but as you said, it won't be a problem because I'm sure he's already started saving money, and maybe storing it in a box next to a picture of the baby and a little devotional candle. My guess is they'll find a match in the incarceration somewhere, there's about a 1 in 5 shot, demographically speaking.

lennavan:shoegaze99: His point is that a jillion people in this thread were encouraging the husband to turn the couple into unwed parents, ie. to break up the marriage, but when the discussion turned more towards race unwed parents were suddenly a big problem. His point is, "Which is it, Fark?"

I didn't gather that from his posts. I ignored most of his posts as stupid, so perhaps that's why I missed it. But there are a few where he hops up on his high horse and positions himself as some sort of authority on the matter. He had a post telling people what is and is not acceptable to break up with a girl for.

A woman cheated on her husband. Apparently farkers who have negative comments about this woman are:

DROxINxTHExWIND: I'm starting to see what folks are saying about Farkers and their female bashing.

By all means, disagree with whether or not this woman is a biatch. But calling a woman who cheated on her husband a biatch isn't random female bashing. We don't hate all women, we just hate women who cheat on their husbands.

His point as I see it is "Here's the way it is, I'm right, all of you STFU."

His "point" is that he knows damn well the shiat that goes on in the black community, and he is ashamed to admit it, and he is desperately trying to sweep that shiat under the rug and hide it by accusing everyone and anyone else of whatever he can think of.

It takes a real man to start admitting that shiat and try to face it. Can't fix a problem till you admit there is a problem.

DROxINxTHExWIND:Why should anyone care about your opinion when you have such a callous disregard for the opinion of others

What did I miss out on?

DROxINxTHExWIND:In other news, I'm starting to see what folks are saying about Farkers and their female bashing. Maybe I just never paid it much attention before, but you all sound like a bunch of scorned females.

Ah, we all just hate women and it's just female bashing.

DROxINxTHExWIND:If she were single, she'd still be hooking up with the black guy. Sorry that you've lost so many women to black guys that you had to come up with a rule of thumb for how to deal with it. Its not our fault that your penis can contract into your body like a baby turtle head.

Ah, those racist stereotypes are true and what's more, non black people have tiny penises.

DROxINxTHExWIND:Look, please don't take this personally but you all sound like a bunch of biatches.

We're all biatches.

DROxINxTHExWIND:No one can live it for you. So, why let somebody's opinion steer you in one direction or another. Not one of those people with an opinion is going to be with you at night. None of them are supporting you in any way. This is the life philosophy of a teenaged girl. Man the fark up. Men do what they want and suckers do what they can. If you live life as a slave to the expectations of others, you're a sucker.

DROxINxTHExWIND:And from this thread, no one seems to have a problem with children being raised in single parent homes because all of these pussies would have run away from their responsibility in an emotional huff because the mother was a cheater

Leaving a cheating spouse means you are an emotional pussy.

DROxINxTHExWIND:Slow down. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of Farkers. You all sit on high horses

We are the ones on the high horses. Also, we are the hypocrites.

DROxINxTHExWIND:I clearly stated earler in the thread that I WOULD NOT have stayed in the relationship

You would have left.

So yeah, this wife cheated on her husband and anyone who says he should leave her is hypocritical woman hater stuck on their high horse in a teenage girl mindset. But you would have left her and it's not your fault white women prefer black men. Also if you're not black you have a tiny penis.

I missed out on a lot there, didn't I? I can't imagine why anyone would ignore your posts.

shoegaze99:His point is that a jillion people in this thread were encouraging the husband to turn the couple into unwed parents, ie. to break up the marriage, but when the discussion turned more towards race unwed parents were suddenly a big problem. His point is, "Which is it, Fark?"

I didn't gather that from his posts. I ignored most of his posts as stupid, so perhaps that's why I missed it. But there are a few where he hops up on his high horse and positions himself as some sort of authority on the matter. He had a post telling people what is and is not acceptable to break up with a girl for.

A woman cheated on her husband. Apparently farkers who have negative comments about this woman are:

DROxINxTHExWIND:I'm starting to see what folks are saying about Farkers and their female bashing.

By all means, disagree with whether or not this woman is a biatch. But calling a woman who cheated on her husband a biatch isn't random female bashing. We don't hate all women, we just hate women who cheat on their husbands.

His point as I see it is "Here's the way it is, I'm right, all of you STFU."

Says the guy discussing unwed people when the article we are all commenting on is about a married chick?

His point is that a jillion people in this thread were encouraging the husband to turn the couple into unwed parents, ie. to break up the marriage, but when the discussion turned more towards race unwed parents were suddenly a big problem. His point is, "Which is it, Fark?"

Now who said she would have to be an unwed mother if the husband kicked her out?

What about the black father of her daughter? He should marry her and support his daughter, shouldn't he? Why, everyone is saying that black men often want to support and pursue visitation and be great dads, and he could be the CEO of American Express even, so why don't she go back to him and have him take care of her and his daughter? I'm sure he wants to, right?

Right?

Well even if he was "white and right" why the hell would she expect a one night stand of any race to step up when he doesn't even know about the kid? It's a one night stand for a reason. Have you ever had one? Well if you haven't, the goal is to never see each other again after doing filthy, forbidden things to each other. They were both idiots to not use protection (or perhaps they fell into the 1% or so failure group), first off. But the burden is on her to track him down. As far as he knows, it's business as usual. When he finds out, that's when he can step up or not. This isn't a race thing as much as you want to make it, it's a one night stand thing. Her husband obviously knows, so her best bet is to tell the kid where she came from as early as possible. The longer she tries to keep an obvious secret, the worse the kid's going to hate her when she's older.

Says the guy discussing unwed people when the article we are all commenting on is about a married chick?

His point is that a jillion people in this thread were encouraging the husband to turn the couple into unwed parents, ie. to break up the marriage, but when the discussion turned more towards race unwed parents were suddenly a big problem. His point is, "Which is it, Fark?"

Now who said she would have to be an unwed mother if the husband kicked her out?

What about the black father of her daughter? He should marry her and support his daughter, shouldn't he? Why, everyone is saying that black men often want to support and pursue visitation and be great dads, and he could be the CEO of American Express even, so why don't she go back to him and have him take care of her and his daughter? I'm sure he wants to, right?

Getting a huge LOL out of this thread. Like it would really be any better if the other man were white. Like she's really truly ruined life for both of her children forever and a man who is obviously ok enough to stay. Oh yeah and I'm sure the guy who stayed is totally a spineless pussy, totally. For the record, in total seriousness, if I saw a couple with a white baby and a mixed race baby, I would first think of adoption or IVF before an affair. But then, I don't have a problem with mixed race babies nor do I automatically assume that their lives are ruined because their mother is a whore and their father is a dead beat named Tyrone.

Yo mamma an unwed mother, right? Yo daddy never there? Is that why you are supposedly trying to be a real father, but at the same time denying that shiat always happens, and defending these absentee baby daddies like you was one of them?

Lord Dimwit:Just out of curiosity, is infidelity of a spouse useful in custody hearings? Like, showing that someone is an unfit parent? 'Cause if so, I would think divorce would be the best option here.

No. The only thing thing useful in a custody hearing is having a vagina.

DROxINxTHExWIND:But, how much of a hypocrite do you have to be to pontificate about absentee fathers in other threads and then to come in here and complain that this guy didn't run crying into the woods when he found out his wife was a cheater.

DROxINxTHExWIND:Crewmannumber6: miscreant: Maybe the husband actually gets off on that. Isn't there a whole porn genre based on this?

I can't watch porn with black dudes in it

BWHAHAHAHAHA!! Its not our fault.

In other news, I'm starting to see what folks are saying about Farkers and their female bashing. Maybe I just never paid it much attention before, but you all sound like a bunch of scorned females. The anger directed at this woman seems to be coming from a very personal place in some cases. The guy decided to stick it out and keep his family intact. Is it the decision that I would have made? Hell no. But, how much of a hypocrite do you have to be to pontificate about absentee fathers in other threads and then to come in here and complain that this guy didn't run crying into the woods when he found out his wife was a cheater. The EASIEST thing that he could do is run away and vilify her to family, friends, and the child. He's doing the HARDEST thing that anyone could do in this situation. He's being a man and trying to keep his vows. Sure, I see how you could twist that to be something weak, I just don't understand why you would.

Umm, she cheated with a kneegrow and her infidelity is an obvious and blatant slap in the face.

TwistedFark:My wife has really big fake boobs (32J). People are always looking at her and wondering "Are those real?" some people even have the lack of appropriate self control to actually ask the question. It's a hassle to her and annoys her

ongbok:SuperNinjaToad: Koalaesq: I wonder if the second kid's father is at all in the picture. Wait until he suddenly decides to come seeking custody or visitation rights of the kid; that'll really be confusing to the first kid.

LOL, dude.. seriously when was the last time you see a black dude seeking custody or visitation rights to his bastard child?

Koalaesq:I wonder if the second kid's father is at all in the picture. Wait until he suddenly decides to come seeking custody or visitation rights of the kid; that'll really be confusing to the first kid.

LOL, dude.. seriously when was the last time you see a black dude seeking custody or visitation rights to his bastard child?

ChadM89:accelerus: I'd love to know if the REAL father of the black baby pays child support, or does anything even remotely needed to help pay for the kid.

It's obvious the woman is a lying cheating whore, she just had to go out and get some big black cack and was stupid enough to get knocked up.

The sad thing is the biggest dumb ass in the whole equation is the hubby for staying with her. I'd have taken my real daughter and told the whore and tyrone to live happily ever after in their crack shack.

Holy shiat. For all the information we have, this lady could have gone out to a nice establishment and picked up an attractive, successful black man and had a one-night stand with him. She may have never spoken to him again, he may not even know she had a child by him. We know nothing about him except the fact that this lady had sex with him at least once and that he's a black male.

And based on "black male", you deliver a rant in which he's a deatbeat father named Tyrone who smokes crack and lives in squalor. Frankly I'm just surprised you didn't start off your post with, "Im not a racist, but..."

I'm with you here. Seems like threads like this release the inner racism of some folks. For all we know, the woman in the letter could have been farking the CEO of American Express. But no, some people automatically assume it is some "Black dude named Tyrone who is a crackhead".

When I see this, I immediately begin to wonder about the possible esteem and fear issues some farkers may possess. But that thought is overrun with the other thought that some people here have some serious issues with race/fear of black men...and prolly of the psychosis that black men may take their women and there isn't shiat they can do about it.

/stop being racist...and childish, people// and get over yourselves while you're at it.

TwistedFark:R.A.Danny: Is this the thread where we talk about black guys dumping gorgeous black chicks for dumpy white ones?

I have to admit, as someone who grew up in Detroit, I never farking understood this. I have a cousin who is about 5'3, 230 lbs and dumb as a box of rocks. I was over at her mothers house visiting when she walks in with this passably attractive black guy, who I find out is her new boyfriend. I'm thinking to myself, "Wow she really got lucky."

Then an hour later this guys ex-girlfriend comes over to drop off his 2 year old kid (okay, so not quite so lucky, he has a kid already, but so does she) - and his ex girlfriend is this absolutely gorgeous black lady.

I remember walking out of there and thinking to myself, "Whatever the opposite of jungle fever is, this dude's got it". It's the only way to explain how he could be with my cousin.

//Yes, my cousin is a dumb troll.

Black chick has self respect and isn't willing to put up with shiat, whereas white chick has no self respect and will allow men to walk all over her?

lennavan:DROxINxTHExWIND: Slow down. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of Farkers. You all sit on high horses

looking down at theunwed with children as if they are rubbish

We're looking down on the wife, not the kid. Duh. I can't believe you posted without bothering to actually read the posts.

DROxINxTHExWIND: but I have less tolerance for people who don't read thr article

Oh awkward.

Pfffft. I bet your ass thought you said something real slick when you posted that. Lol. Your reading comprehension fails you. You look down at the UNWED who have children, not the children. Smh. I waited a few minutes to post this just so you could bask in your percieved awesomeness for a little while longer. You're welcome.

DROxINxTHExWIND:Slow down. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of Farkers. You all sit on high horses looking down at the unwed with children as if they are rubbish

We're looking down on the wife, not the kid. Duh. I can't believe you posted without bothering to actually read the posts.

DROxINxTHExWIND:but I have less tolerance for people who don't read thr article

Oh awkward.

DROxINxTHExWIND:Not only are people in this thread totally looking past the vows that are so sacred any other time

You give a nice big pass to the wife who shiat all over those vows. Christians believe Marriage is a sacred vow before God. You know what else Christians believe about women who cheat?

Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."

I'm thinkin he's a nice guy if rather than putting her to death, he just divorces her.

Its not about insecurity as you might think. Many white men see it as something "unclean" when a white woman has sex with a black man. A degradation. I can't explain it but ....there you go.That might explain all the black on white cuckold videos. There is a fascination yet a revulsion at the same time. I'm not saying it's right, just the way it is.

The Muthaship:DROxINxTHExWIND: I guess you only see a problem when its a black child.

Having no father around is a problem regardless of race. Statistics say the problem is much more common among blacks. Just another thing that can't be discussed without it "saying something about the person who mentions it" to paraphrase your sentiment. That won't lead to improvement in the situation.

Lol. So, its ok for you to make sweeping generalizations about black fathers but its a problem when I catagorize you based on what you actually say. That's funny. Since we're pulling unsubstantiated stats out of our ass, statistically speaking, most white people on the internet are racist D-bags. I don't have a problem with anyone bringing up relevant facts. That's not what you did. This isn't a thread about black paternity, no matter how much you want to make it one. In a thread where a white woman cheated and a white man looked past it, you found a way to make a disparaging remark about black fathers. Congrats.

lennavan:DROxINxTHExWIND: You're going to make a life-changing decision and base it on "what everybody is going to think about you??" That's some punk ass shiat. You have ONE life to live. No one can live it for you. So, why let somebody's opinion steer you in one direction or another.

I was going to agree with your opinion but then took control of my own life and decided you're completely wrong. You can make a life-changing decision based on whatever the fark you want to. It's your own farking life. If you want to break up with a chick because she puts A1 sauce on her steak, farking do it.

Totally agree with both of you actually. I live my life doing what I want to do, but understanding that along with that sometimes goes some grief or problems I have to deal with. It's like, you are free to say whatever you want to people, but you are not free of consequences of that. I think most people understand that.

For me, this would probably be too much of a hassle to deal with. I will give an example of this -

My wife has really big fake boobs (32J). People are always looking at her and wondering "Are those real?" some people even have the lack of appropriate self control to actually ask the question. It's a hassle to her and annoys her that people can't just enjoy the boobage without the whispering. However, if someone does flag her down and ask her (and this has happened on the street before) she can say "No they're not!" and not worry about it. It's not that big of a deal (no pun intended) and causes no lasting emotional harm.

Would hate to be in the position of having someone ask me, "Is your daughter adopted?" and then having to either lie about it ("Yes she is") or say, "No my wife cheated on me". Sure it wouldn't happen all the time, but I bet it would happen enough that you'd be dreading the next time it came up. What a shiat situation to be in really.

Anyway, back to my original point - I don't think it's "acting like a teenage girl" to acknowledge that there are uncomfortable situations brought about by other people and the knowledge of the daughters illegitimacy. To pretend that all you have to do is "not care and man up" is sort of naive. Certainly you should live life on your terms, but there is always something to be paid. Always. For me - I wouldn't want to pay this price, so I wouldn't. Maybe someone else could and that's fine.

I hope so, that would be better than the stats that say 70%+ of black kids grow up without a father.

I understand from your posts that you are a devoted father, so good on you for bucking that sad trend.

Smh. How dumb do you have to be to believe that. There is a difference between growing up without a father and growing up without a father "in the home". And from this thread, no one seems to have a problem with children being raised in single parent homes because all of these pussies would have run away from their responsibility in an emotional huff because the mother was a cheater. I guess you only see a problem when its a black child. Should tell you something about yourself.

evaned:Karac: In this case though, ever single person who ever sees his family for the rest of his life is going to see the older white son, the younger black daughter, do the math and know that she cheated on him.

And they'll know that (1) the son is his biological son and (2) that the daughter wasn't adopted how?

Obviously people who know him somewhat well would be able to deduce it, but "every single person who sees his family"? I'm gonna go with "no". They might guess it, but there are multiple other explanations without that information above.

OK then, decent point. How about we limit my previous statement to everyone in his family, friends, neighbors, fellow churchgoers, and occasional bystanders who noticed that the wife was pregnant while the daughter while married to him.

DROxINxTHExWIND:In other news, I'm starting to see what folks are saying about Farkers and their female bashing. Maybe I just never paid it much attention before, but you all sound like a bunch of scorned females. The anger directed at this woman seems to be coming from a very personal place in some cases.

Why, it's almost like a large percentage of Farkers are bitter 40-ish male divorcees.

DROxINxTHExWIND:The EASIEST thing that he could do is run away and vilify her to family, friends, and the child. He's doing the HARDEST thing that anyone could do in this situation. He's being a man and trying to keep his vows

More likely he doesn't want his kid to grow up without a dad. Which I respect, but think it's probably the wrong move in the long term - kids with single parents tend to be better adjusted than kids with parents who stayed together but who hated each other.

/the racism in this thread is actually more troubling than the sexism.//seriously, why does the race of the other guy make it worse?

I worry about my ex fiance from a few years ago doing something like this. Coming over one night hooking up then she is magically pregnant after a few weeks and claims it's mine. She married the main guy she was cheating on me with about 7 months after we broke up and got pregnant, maybe by him, maybe not. I just avoid her like the plague now.

It is vitally important to know who both parents are (if you can) for your medical history and genetic predispositions. It's bad enough this whore is making her poor husband live wit this. It will be worse if she denies her child knowing the father and having the medical benefits of knowing him.

inner ted:Koalaesq: demaL-demaL-yeH: Koalaesq: We were attempting to get her to keep custody of her 5th child. It was hard because she had had sex with another man while the 4 year old was in the room.

Why would you do that?I mean, other than for the money.

/You're a public defender, aren't you?

Legal aid. Close enough.

except one is an attorney and the other is a secretary ... ahem.. i mean 'legal aid'

Koalaesq:Another recent-ish NJ case had this fantastic turn of events: A father was getting a divorce from the mother. In NJ, you have to pay for child support through college. Mom applied for child support, and dad brought that up that he knew the kid wasn't even his, and refused to pay child support. Dad tried to get a DNA test to prove it, but since he had basically sat on his rights for 18 years and it would not benefit the kid, the court refused to let him off the hook and said he had to pay for the kid's college and continue to be the putative father.

Seems just a NJ twist (the college bit instead of 18 years old) on a common theme. I've seen other cases similar, where essentially a father who acts as a father for a long time later finds out he is not, still has to continue paying support. It sucks, I'm not entirely sure how I feel about it but honestly, I think I agree with it. When you sign the birth certificate and agree you're the father, that's that. It's not the kid's fault the mother is a lying ho-bag.

Here's the problem I have. This selfish biatch ruins the lives of her husband and biological son and gets a pass. She doesn't have to face the consequences of her decision because her husband appears to be a stand up guy. An idiot but a stand up guy.

My brother went through a similar scenario with his ex-biatch but the same race but these two kids look markedly different. She got knocked up by a neighbor and he kicked the biatch and the kid out. They are split. He has one kid, she has the other...hers with the neighbor. The neighbor didn't want anything to do with her and the new found kid because, shocker, he has a brood of his own. The court, in the Peoples Republic of New Jersey no less, upheld that the neighbor has to support both my brother's ex wife AND their biological kid. My brother has to pay half of her alimony and her health care but does not have to support the kid in any way shape or form.

Sometimes justice is done. I would have ditched the biatch long ago. We all knew she was cheating on him after about 3 months after they were married. We told him but he wouldn't listen.

reveal101:PowerSlacker: Better yet, how does that slut explain to her children how "Dad" is such a spineless weasel?

It partially explains why she cheated on him in the first place: She knew she would get away with it.

Not just cheat on him, but cheat on him and have another mans baby, a baby that will obviously let EVERYONE know he was cuckolded as well. To top it all off, she doesn't say anything about being remorseful, thinking her affair was a mistake, or being contrite. She says that they stayed together for their son.

bemis23:Worthless cheating sluts are worthless. Dad should divorce her lying ass post-haste and sue for custody of his child.

/Divorcing my own worthless cheating slut now//55 days left to go then her ass gone forever///thank FSM, we have no kids

Divorce sucks (never did it myself, but assisted in quite a few), just remember to not give in just to "get it over with". People who say they just want to "get it over with" always regret the concessions they've made afterwards.

ongbok:lennavan: Koalaesq: any child born to a married man and woman automatically means the husband is considered the dad, even if the mom suspects or knows the child was born of cuckoldry. So depending on the state, yes, the husband may be deemed the actual father of the child.

We have that here in IL. If the mom knows he is not the father, like in this article, the father has two possible ways to protest. One is for him and the mother to both sign a denial of paternity form where they voluntarily agree he is not the father, the other is to get a DNA test.

Isn't there a lot of legal paperwork and money involved in this? I'm from IL also, and I know a guy that went through this. It is a long story that would have sent most men over the edge, and almost did it to him, but short version is he wasn't married to the woman, they were engaged and he had signed the birth certificate, then almost 2 years later he found out he wasn't the father. He was able to do it, but like I said it was a long process and cost him a lot of money in legal fees.

That's a different issue. What I was bringing up is establishing paternity in the first place. If you are married, you are by default assumed to be the legal father. You can contest it as a married father and get a DNA test, or if the wife signs the form you both can voluntarily agree you are not the father. Sounds like your friend already accepted being the father and wanted that changed.

Paternity is an amazingly simple thing to establish. It's a simple cheek swab and you're done and they do it essentially high-throughput down at the courthouse downtown. Your friend made the right choice long term financially but if someone is strapped for cash, the forms are all online. He could have filed it himself. Here's the pro se page. Link

ongbok:lennavan: Koalaesq: any child born to a married man and woman automatically means the husband is considered the dad, even if the mom suspects or knows the child was born of cuckoldry. So depending on the state, yes, the husband may be deemed the actual father of the child.

We have that here in IL. If the mom knows he is not the father, like in this article, the father has two possible ways to protest. One is for him and the mother to both sign a denial of paternity form where they voluntarily agree he is not the father, the other is to get a DNA test.

Isn't there a lot of legal paperwork and money involved in this? I'm from IL also, and I know a guy that went through this. It is a long story that would have sent most men over the edge, and almost did it to him, but short version is he wasn't married to the woman, they were engaged and he had signed the birth certificate, then almost 2 years later he found out he wasn't the father. He was able to do it, but like I said it was a long process and cost him a lot of money in legal fees.

The Angry Hand of God:Why would you decide it was a good idea to have this child? Why would you stay with her after that? It isn't like your marriage is healthy, get a divorce immediately. You are not helping any of the children by staying together.

Worthless cheating sluts and pathetic spineless douchebags deserve one another. I hope they make eachother miserable for the rest of their lives (and leave the rest of us alone).

While that may come across as a funny little joke, it should be remembered that most women who "go black" as they say, become complete whoores for the BBC. They crave it. It becomes their Lord and Master, such is the power of Black Mojo. They'll tryst away with their Black Lover, enjoying the prodigious manhood for which they are famous, and can even forget that the husband is there, in the room, perhaps touching himself, perhaps weeping tears of joy on his chastity device, but all she knows is she rests secure in the Bosom of Africa which controls, embraces, and penetrates her. She'll gleefully take his issue in whatever orifice it should please him to deposit it. Then she'll lay back and beckon for more as the African American man is known for his enormous sexual appetite and superhuman performance.

But here's where that fantasy becomes complicated. Indeed, she's gone black, she certainly cannot go back at this juncture. She can, however, go forward. Group liaisons with multiple hung, black stallions, two, three, even six at a time is not uncommon once a HotWife has truly accepted her identity as a Black C*ck Slut. Once she begins taking cream pies under such conditions, it is truly a lottery when attempting to determine the sire of the resultant spawn. And you can be sure, oh yes, that there will be cream pies. Demure at first, playing the coquettish Horny, Hot, White, Suburban Housewife, she may choose to require her partners to wear condoms when penetrating her vagina. Once her legs are wrapped around his torso and her hands cling to his muscular, athletic shoulders, however, she will take in his scent, feel his passion, and crave the sensation of his seed within her. It is inevitable. It happens not to most, but to all white women who indulge that Mandingo fantasy.

Also surprising to many of these women is the full scope of the Black Man's Sexual Prowess. Even women who are treated with oral c ...

ChadM89:accelerus: I'd love to know if the REAL father of the black baby pays child support, or does anything even remotely needed to help pay for the kid.

It's obvious the woman is a lying cheating whore, she just had to go out and get some big black cack and was stupid enough to get knocked up.

The sad thing is the biggest dumb ass in the whole equation is the hubby for staying with her. I'd have taken my real daughter and told the whore and tyrone to live happily ever after in their crack shack.

Holy shiat. For all the information we have, this lady could have gone out to a nice establishment and picked up an attractive, successful black man and had a one-night stand with him. She may have never spoken to him again, he may not even know she had a child by him. We know nothing about him except the fact that this lady had sex with him at least once and that he's a black male.

And based on "black male", you deliver a rant in which he's a deatbeat father named Tyrone who smokes crack and lives in squalor. Frankly I'm just surprised you didn't start off your post with, "Im not a racist, but..."

Man, I'm glad someone said it. There is a lot of racism coming out in this thread. WTF guys?

My wife's sister-in-law announced her pregnancy in September, and since then it's been an exhausting parade of baby-related events that for which she expects my wife's presence: gender-reveal cake party, ultrasound party, three baby showers. She sends my wife (and the rest of the family) near daily updates about her gestational progress.

Holy crap that's a mountain of cray-cray. I expect her to make a few appearances on STFUParents in the near future.

ChadM89:accelerus: I'd love to know if the REAL father of the black baby pays child support, or does anything even remotely needed to help pay for the kid.

It's obvious the woman is a lying cheating whore, she just had to go out and get some big black cack and was stupid enough to get knocked up.

The sad thing is the biggest dumb ass in the whole equation is the hubby for staying with her. I'd have taken my real daughter and told the whore and tyrone to live happily ever after in their crack shack.

Holy shiat. For all the information we have, this lady could have gone out to a nice establishment and picked up an attractive, successful black man and had a one-night stand with him. She may have never spoken to him again, he may not even know she had a child by him. We know nothing about him except the fact that this lady had sex with him at least once and that he's a black male.

And based on "black male", you deliver a rant in which he's a deatbeat father named Tyrone who smokes crack and lives in squalor. Frankly I'm just surprised you didn't start off your post with, "Im not a racist, but..."

One thing we can be certain of...she did not sleep with a wealthy black athlete. Otherwise, you bet she'd be suing for a share of the Tiger Woods Children Out of Wedlock Trust.

While that may come across as a funny little joke, it should be remembered that most women who "go black" as they say, become complete whoores for the BBC. They crave it. It becomes their Lord and Master, such is the power of Black Mojo. They'll tryst away with their Black Lover, enjoying the prodigious manhood for which they are famous, and can even forget that the husband is there, in the room, perhaps touching himself, perhaps weeping tears of joy on his chastity device, but all she knows is she rests secure in the Bosom of Africa which controls, embraces, and penetrates her. She'll gleefully take his issue in whatever orifice it should please him to deposit it. Then she'll lay back and beckon for more as the African American man is known for his enormous sexual appetite and superhuman performance.

But here's where that fantasy becomes complicated. Indeed, she's gone black, she certainly cannot go back at this juncture. She can, however, go forward. Group liaisons with multiple hung, black stallions, two, three, even six at a time is not uncommon once a HotWife has truly accepted her identity as a Black C*ck Slut. Once she begins taking cream pies under such conditions, it is truly a lottery when attempting to determine the sire of the resultant spawn. And you can be sure, oh yes, that there will be cream pies. Demure at first, playing the coquettish Horny, Hot, White, Suburban Housewife, she may choose to require her partners to wear condoms when penetrating her vagina. Once her legs are wrapped around his torso and her hands cling to his muscular, athletic shoulders, however, she will take in his scent, feel his passion, and crave the sensation of his seed within her. It is inevitable. It happens not to most, but to all white women who indulge that Mandingo fantasy.

Also surprising to many of these women is the full scope of the Black Man's Sexual Prowess. Even women who are treated with oral contraceptives will find their very physiology transformed by her Nubian Lover. Some unknown quality exists in the Hung Black Stud (please forgive my redundancy, but it's a historical term), that will make the most barren woman fertile. Like the land that gave birth to his forefathers and indeed to all humanity, the fecundity of Mother Africa is somehow translated into the womb of the BBC Whore. She will ovulate despite the presence of anti-fertility hormones. Her ovum will find the uterus despite tubal ligations. Her seed with seek out his, bond and enjoin her flesh to bring forth more black life. And find that seed she will, for it is generally a copious discharge. At least, the first three or four of a session. After that he may require further hydration. And multiply that by the basketball or football team who arrive at the hotel to service her, and you can well imagine the veritable bath she'll take in their ejaculate.

Yes, who indeed is this Love Child's Black Daddy. Dare I say we all are.

Koalaesq:I wonder if the second kid's father is at all in the picture. Wait until he suddenly decides to come seeking custody or visitation rights of the kid; that'll really be confusing to the first kid.

I'm betting he at least still stops by to drop a few more potential kids off in the pool.../IF ya know what I mean.

Koalaesq:factoryconnection: Crotchrocket Slim: Also, cattle prod to the mother in law for lying to the child... and for being a lame stereotype of a mother in law.

Isn't the mixed-race child technically adopted by the husband now? A similar but single-race situation like this happened in my friend group and the husband adopted the new kid. The wife was going through some serious alcohol problems when she left the husband and shacked up temporarily with the babydaddy, but the wife ended up returning to her husband and kids, got treatment, finished school and pulled her life together.

It can work, though that doesn't mean it will for TFA's giant whore.

There's something called the Putative Father doctrine that many (most?) states have that says any child born to a married man and woman automatically means the husband is considered the dad, even if the mom suspects or knows the child was born of cuckoldry. So depending on the state, yes, the husband may be deemed the actual father of the child.

It didn't mention whether or not the biological father is on the birth certificate or whether or not he signed away any legal rights or if he even knows about the kid. But any child born from a married couple the husband is the presumptive father. This being the case, he can't technically adopt this child because that child technically is his in the eyes of the law. For a current example Kim Kardashian's kid is presuptively Kris Humphries if they are still married when she gives birth

Koalaesq:factoryconnection: Crotchrocket Slim: Also, cattle prod to the mother in law for lying to the child... and for being a lame stereotype of a mother in law.

Isn't the mixed-race child technically adopted by the husband now? A similar but single-race situation like this happened in my friend group and the husband adopted the new kid. The wife was going through some serious alcohol problems when she left the husband and shacked up temporarily with the babydaddy, but the wife ended up returning to her husband and kids, got treatment, finished school and pulled her life together.

It can work, though that doesn't mean it will for TFA's giant whore.

There's something called the Putative Father doctrine that many (most?) states have that says any child born to a married man and woman automatically means the husband is considered the dad, even if the mom suspects or knows the child was born of cuckoldry. So depending on the state, yes, the husband may be deemed the actual father of the child.

That's where an Action to Establish Paternity comes in handy. If you're genetically not the father, and never adopted the child, the odds of you getting away without having to pay child support increase. The Court would then ask Mommy to give it the name of the real father, who would then be on the hook for child support.

Nurglitch:I know, through my own ex, a woman that has children by three different fathers. Encountering the family, I had thought that the eldest (in this case) was adopted, and was somewhat surprised to learn that her father had in fact been deported back to Jamaica. I had also thought that the father was merely annoyed by the older daughters wanting his attention while he was trying to relax. Ugh, I hate the Annapolis Valley.

One of my most memorable clients was a woman who had 5 children by 5 different fathers. We were attempting to get her to keep custody of her 5th child. It was hard because she had had sex with another man while the 4 year old was in the room. She assured me it was ok because the kid was watching TV and "never saw what happened".

miss diminutive:Lord Dimwit: I work from home and my wife is a stay at home mom, so it's not like we have a lot of opportunities to be unfaithful.

Sorry, she's cheating on you with another furry from Second Life.

I keed, I keed.

I think infidelity is a dealbreaker for most people though. Especially if the cheating results in a child...which means she probably wasn't using protection and could have brought home all kinds of nastiness.

A family friend found out her husband was cheating on her when she got some STD from him. Found out later that he'd been cheating on her for years. She kicked him out of the house and was going to divorce him, but then decided that she couldn't handle four kids on her own and let him back in. Sucks all around (which is not to imply anything other than 100% of the guilt lies on the husband).

That was the adopted child that W used to torpedo McCain out of the SC Primary in 2000, by claiming it was his secret, illegitimate child. That's what you get when you put this state full of morons in a position of power.

factoryconnection:Crotchrocket Slim: Also, cattle prod to the mother in law for lying to the child... and for being a lame stereotype of a mother in law.

Isn't the mixed-race child technically adopted by the husband now? A similar but single-race situation like this happened in my friend group and the husband adopted the new kid. The wife was going through some serious alcohol problems when she left the husband and shacked up temporarily with the babydaddy, but the wife ended up returning to her husband and kids, got treatment, finished school and pulled her life together.

It can work, though that doesn't mean it will for TFA's giant whore.

There's something called the Putative Father doctrine that many (most?) states have that says any child born to a married man and woman automatically means the husband is considered the dad, even if the mom suspects or knows the child was born of cuckoldry. So depending on the state, yes, the husband may be deemed the actual father of the child.

I certainly hope the white guy looked into the laws in his state, and didn't sign his name to the birth certificate. Otherwise it's gonna suck when he finally gets his balls back, divorces her, but then finds out he's still on the hook for the other guy's child support.

Koalaesq:I wonder if the second kid's father is at all in the picture. Wait until he suddenly decides to come seeking custody or visitation rights of the kid; that'll really be confusing to the first kid.

Like the 10 guys running the train on her would be able to narrow it down!

cig-mkr:Son, shiat happens to stupid sluts, and your dad is a spineless pussy.

Something that people don't know well enough is that fertility for women jumps with new partners and after long droughts. So, cheating bastards and whores of the world, just because you stopped using condoms or other birth control with your spouse a long time ago doesn't mean that you should skip it with your new strange.

my mother-in-law took it upon herself to tell him she was adopted. I'm at a loss for what to do. For now my husband has told MIL that the topic is verboten, but we haven't decided if we should correct her error.

Koalaesq:I wonder if the second kid's father is at all in the picture. Wait until he suddenly decides to come seeking custody or visitation rights of the kid; that'll really be confusing to the first kid.

lennavan:Because my husband and I had a 2-year-old son together we decided that we could keep our marriage together for his sake

Yeah that's not gonna work. Your second kid is a daily reminder to your husband that you're a lying cheating slut. Your relationship is going to fail, it is probably already terrible and your husband is wasting his years of life with you. He should teach his 2 year old son to not take that sort of shiat, divorce your sorry ass and kick you out of the house.

Hugs,~Lenny

The best part is, if they get divorced now, the husband will likely be on the hook for child support for the mixed race kid too.