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Sam, honestly? A KC pro roc for a understable shot? Ontario Roc or San Marino would be more understable, a KC pro roc wont be understable for a long time, unless the person hugs trees as much as you do...

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I just picked up a new Z-Comet to compliment my ESP version and it flys out of the box similar to what you are asking for. I was throwing it at about 70% power and it was right around 300 feet, with 20 foot of elevation. It slowly faded right on a very nice glide pattern.

I would agree that form is key with any disc that is understable. Oh yeah and mine is a see through blue work of art!

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KC pro roc's are the reason that I switched from Innova to Discraft, so it stands to reason that i wont be picking up any rocs to fill this need.

ChUck was right that i am looking for a disc that i dont have to break in. i have been trying to get my Z buzzz broken in enough to fly as i described in my first post, but then yesterday i got to thinking "if i lose this disc then i will have to break in a new disc and that could take some time!" i want a disc that if i lose it, i can go buy another one and dont have to worry about breaking it in so it will fly like i want it to.

i have never tried a breeze, but it sounds sort of popular. but if it is not being manufactured anymore that could be a problem in the long run.

the stratus is way to understable, i got one of these when i signed up for the PDGA.

i never even heard of a glide, i will have to check that out.

so it looks like i will have to go track down an impact, meteor, comet, and a breeze.

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the breeze seems like it might be a little more understable than what your looking for. plus you'd have to find one on ebay or somewhere and then if you lost it you would have to try and find another cuz they are discontinued. my very first thought when i read your first post was to get a comet. the Z and ESP are great right out of the box. i think that would suit you well

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For Discraft only, get a Glide. I have two Glide aces and the disc is pretty sweet. It's not a Roc, though, which is why I no longer have it in the bag.

Damn... thinking about it, I have 4 Discraft aces: 2 with the Glide and 2 with the Drone.

ďI believe I can hit 18 greens, hit every fairway, you know ó Vision 54, which means you birdie every hole, thatís in the back of my mind. I want to putt better, chip better. That day when I hit 18 greens and one putt, Iíll know Iím a complete golfer. Will that ever happen? Iím not sure, but itís possible. The 54 vision is always in the back of my mind.Ē~Annika SŲrenstam

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Just out of curiosity, why is that? If you can get your drives out to 400, the odds are pretty good that your most accurate throws inside at least 200 feet would be with a putter. If it's an issue off not banging up your putter, you could carry a "putting" putter and a "throwing" putter.