Staten Island NY: Muslim Majlis~ Jesus Taught Islam

Recently, I have been doing a lot of reporting on Islam in Brooklyn, and NYC. Tonight, though, we will take a look at the presence of Islam in Staten Island. Specifically, we will study the situation of the Muslim Majlis of Staten Island (who are located at 104 Rhine Avenue).

The name “Islam” simply means “Self-surrender to the Will of God.” It is the way of life that all Prophets throughout history have taught, from those known in the Western world such as Abraham, Moses and Jesus to those sent to other parts of the earth like Salih, Shu’ayb and Luqman, the African. The last and final Guide was Muhammad, may he be blessed, who lived in sixth century Arabia. A “Muslim,”(i,e. a self surrendered one,) is a follower of this faith. Nearly one in every five persons alive today is a Muslim.

Right off the bat, the deception begins! Jesus did NOT teach people to kill, rape, and enslave. However, Koran verse 33:50 shows us that Mohammad indeed WAS a rapist!

Koran verse 033.050
YUSUFALI: O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Does anyone have any evidence that Jesus was a rapist? To make matters worse, numerous verses in the Koran state that the actions of Mohammad are to be followed for posterity. Here is one example thereof:

Koran verse 007.157
YUSUFALI: “Those who follow the messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;– for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper.”

Let’s take a look at what else they are trying to sell to us! From their “About Islam” page:

Islam calls humanity to the service of the One, Omnipotent Creator, Who is known as “Allah”, (The Deity) in the Arabic language. It further instructs people on how they may live together in peace and harmony regardless of race, class or beliefs.The unity of purpose brought by all previous religious guides is highlighted as well as traditional morality, the equality of the sexes before God and the virtues of patience and humbleness.

m10.4 The husband may forbid his wife to leave the home (O: because of the hadith related Bayhaqi that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said,

“It is not permissible for the woman who believes in Allah and the Last Day to allow someone into her husband’s house if he is opposed, or to out if he is averse”).

Moving on…

From where do these teachings come?

Muslims have two major sources from which they derive their religious teachings. The first is a book known as “the Quran,” the direct Revelation of God to His last Prophet, the blessed Muhammad. The second source is the collection of sayings and pronouncements of the Prophet which are complimentary to the Revelation. This second source is known as “the Hadith.”

What about Mohammad? Who was he?

Muhammad (pbuh) was born in Arabia in the year 570. His father’s name was Abdullah and his mother’s was Aminah. Abdullah died before his son was born and his mother died when he was yet a small child. He was first placed under the care of his grandfather and then later his uncle, who raised his nephew as his own. As a boy, Muhammad (pbuh), disliked the prevailing custom of idol worship practiced by his people. How many a night he must have paused to watch the stars and endless plains, while tending his uncle’s flocks, and wondered at the real Creator of it all. He shunned the mischief of his fellow youth and soon developed a reputation for honesty, generosity, and compassion.

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This man Muhammad (pbuh) is truly the hero of his age as well as an inspiration to ours.

Narrated Ibn ‘Umar:
Allah’s Apostle said: “I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah’s Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah.”

Islam, or, the Way of Self-Surrender to God, was taught by all Prophets whether their race was Jewish, Chinese, African, Arab or Cheyenne. Accordingly, Moses, who is regarded as the pivotal figure in Judaism, and Jesus, who is the central personality of Christianity, both taught Islam to their peoples. The teachings of these great Messengers of God did not go unchanged, however, over the centuries, and one can find that many practices, beliefs, and customs practiced by the adherents of those faiths today differ from the original purity of their founder’s message. Muhammad (pbuh) simply brought the last installment of self-surrender (Islam) to the world in order to correct earlier corruption in humanity’s knowledge of the truth. So, if the roots of Judaism and Christianity are the same as Islam, why does Islam seem so exotic and strange? The problem is two-fold. On the one hand, there are people in the world who claim to be Muslims, but who do not follow the ethical or religious teachings of the faith. Unfortunately, the media has a universal fascination with negative news and a reluctance to highlight the positive.

I am used to Muslims lying, but this Mosque is just outrageous. Besides being outrageous, their argument can be easily refuted. The Mosque claims that Jesus taught Islam. Since the Islamic scriptures proclaim that Muslims should not befriend Jews and Christians, then Jesus was also spreading the message to Muslims to shun Jews and Christians. Their argument does not make any sense at all!

Koran verse 005.051
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

According to Muslim Masjlis, Jesus was also fine with Christians being beaten into submission. OK, sure…

Koran verse 009.029
YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

That wasn’t too hard! But, of course, all the negative publicity Islam gets is the media’s fault. Right.

The reason Muslims attempt to make Islam and Christianity sound so similar is that Muslims want Christians to think that it is not a very big deal to convert to Islam. In fact, they devote two more pages to this con. It is our job to make sure Christians know just how different the two religions really are!

That is the essence of the difference between Islam and Christianity.
Mohammed did just as he pleased.
Jesus was free from sin, free from being driven by desire alone.
He was God, the Second Person of the Trinity.
The Word made Flesh– made not commanded to be flesh.

Obviously to anyone who takes the time to think about it, the whole idea that Jesus preach Islam is baseless and infact contrary to what Muslims may claim, if what they say about him is correct, than he was actually a failure.

This one youtube skeptic who goes by the user name Deist Paladin, who doubts that he even existed, non the less in response to Islamic apologists, explains why If the their view of Jesus is correct, it would mean that he was an utter failure as a prophet.

Islam corrupts the nature of Jesus Christ. Their emphases on the transcendent nature of God forbids His true triune nature, and thus doesn’t allow the Father to have a Son. Likewise, Mormonism corrupts the nature of Jesus Christ. Their emphases on the immanent nature of God (Eternal Progression) reduces the Son to a created being, which also denies the triune nature of God. Both are perversions of the truth. The reason Muslims and/or Mormons attempt to make their beliefs and Christianity sound so similar is that Muslims and/or Mormons want Christians to think that it is not a very big deal to convert to either.

There’s some info on the web comparing pislam and mormonism. Both were founded by psychopaths who started off by claiming that other religions were corrupted. They waging wars, which they denied they did. Both favour polygamy, etc.

I’ve heard some negative stuff about Mormonism over the years. I knew that at one time the Mormon church openly supported polygamy, and I heard about this one massacre that took place somewhere in Utah perpetrated by members of the Mormon church, but I never heard that about Joseph Smith being a psychopath and waging wars. Do you have a link to your source for this information.

But it is a big deal.
Anyone who has read the Orthodox or Catholic catechism and compared their teachings with even the bare essentials of Islam or Mormonism understands how big a deal it is.
Islam and Mormonism are both hostile to the practice of democracy.
And ultimately, democracy is not an institution, but something that is either practiced or rejected from individual to individual.

Yeshua was a Torah observant Jew and taught from the Tanach. Halal dietary habits and circumcision do not make Muslims either Kosher or Torah observant. The Isa (Issa) of Islam is as pagan a concept as their deity, allah. Just like their pagan prophet, Muhammad, Muslims continue to this day to make up religious fairy tales about other religions. Even if Muslims employ a half truth, the end result is a whole lie. Yeshua warned about the coming false prophets and false messiahs. Muhammad, Islam, Islam’s coming Mahdi, and Islam’s coming Isa (Issa) all are prime examples of what Yeshua warned His followers about. Yeshua would never have taught ‘submission’ to a pagan deity, but instead came to do the will of His Father.

Muslim apologetics and exegesis is so screwed up; one just has to chuckle whenever they attempt to explain any sacred writings, even if it is their own. Many warnings about these end time deceivers have been given throughout the Tanach and B’rit Hadasha and great heed should be given to those warnings. Islam is Satan’s masterpiece of lies and deception in a religion, and Islam will be allowed to continue to spread those lies and deception until Mossiach sets foot upon the Mt. of Olives. Then all the pagans will howl!!!

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Halal dietary habits and circumcision do not make Muslims either Kosher or Torah observant.
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And this is a truth that should be emphasized in every exchange with Islam.
Islam is not of the two Abrahamic religions; it partakes of nothing that came before it; it does not have millennia of prophecy prefiguring it.
Islam was created by the desire of one man and one tribe for power.
And even in the present, Islam is a tool by which people gain power over others and impose the rule of fear.
Islam gives you what you desire.
Christ saves your soul.
Christ leaves the gentle imperative to give.
Islam demands that you seize all that is iin front of you and pervert it.

Don’t be decieved by Islam! The God of the Holy Bible is not Allah, Jesus of the Holy Bible is NOT Isa of the Qur’an!! The Bible is VERY CLEAR about that. Our liberal Church leaders need to read their Holy Bible, maybe then they would stop this “interfaith, we are all the same” nonsense! Islam is NOT the same as Christianity or Judaism, Islam is pure evil! What God’s Word says about Islam: 1 John 2:18-23 Warnings Against Denying the Son
18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.[e] 21 I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

2 John 1:7-11
7 I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. 8 Watch out that you do not lose what we[a] have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. 9 Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. 11 Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.

Knowing the Muslims, they will interpret verse 10 and 11 as being identical to their own verse “do not take the Jews and Christians as your friends…” thereby making the comparison of Christian equivalency to Islam. These people are not only delusional, they are following a plagiarist.

That’s not entirely true. There are some striking similarities. All three are monotheistic and have similar creation myths in addition to some other things. Adam and Eve are in the Koran as well as a lot of other characters from new and old testament, and some of the stories involving them in the Koran are similar. A version of the story of Noah’s ark is in the Koran. Obviously Muhammad took stories from the bible and adapted them for his own purposes. From what I understand some of the early text written by early Christians that were rejected for inclusion in the bible, actually made it into the Koran somehow. Also there’s a reason why Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all called Abrahamic religions. Its not just being politically correct. Abraham plays a role in all three faiths.

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A version of the story of Noah’s ark is in the Koran.
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Actually, in the Koran, this story is repeated many times. In the Surah that is titled Noah, the description of infidels as vermin is given by Noah himself. The Koran shows him to be a man of exclusion, a man responding to his own hatred as much as to Allah.

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21. Noah said: “O my Lord!
They have disobeyed me,
But they follow (men)
Whose wealth and children
Give them no Increase
But only Loss.

Cursing in the name of God or cursing in the name of the Lord, I think, are the among the worst of sins.
The Allah of the Koran is the best of deceivers, Muslims believe.
The God of the Bible, according to the Catholic “Act of Contrition” is “all Good and deserving of all my love.”
Allah of the Koran could never be deserving of all my love.

Allah is the judge of men, and the executioner.
He will throw scalding water down your throat.
He will burn you up.
His hatred for you, as a mere human being, is legion.
Your humanity is the thing Allah holds most in contempt.
God is not like this.
Nowhere in the Bible, nor in Christian scripture does God take on the mantle of executioner of judgment, nowhere does he pour scalding water down the throats of the frail. And those of us who find faith difficult to find are truly the frail.
Allah is not the object of my worship. He bears no semblance to God. None.

Damien

January 16, 2011 at 4:37 pm

EIB,

Well, I don’t want to debate you on this, but there are some pretty horrible things in the old testament as well, especially involving some of the things that God commands the Israelites to do, although the god of the Bible doesn’t exactly command his followers to wage war against all the unbelievers for all time, until they convert, submit or die.

Why would anyone want to be part of a political ideology that promotes violence and hatred of others? Arah, pisslam is for the weak, those who want to be part of a herd that does what it’s told and has no mind of its own. Shame on you if you are part of this blood cult.

“The coming of the lawless one by the activity of Satan will be with all power and with pretended signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those who are to perish, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. “

You and the white washed tombs that convert are mentioned here:

“Therefore God sends upon them a strong delusion, to make them believe what is false, so that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”
2 Thessalonians

arah, you should go here and watch the videos, esp Dr Mark Gabriel’s or “6 Million Muslims convert to Christianity”. You have stumbled onto a site that has educated informed readers. Don’t try spreading your lies and deciet here, we will expose your lies

I’m back though my head hurts a little. I believe I may have suffered a bit of brain damage and have come to the conclusion that there is only one thing to do, become a muzzy, break into the local zoo and drink some camel urine.

I want to answer this point about imperatives toward destruction in the Bible as they relate to the Koran.
I see a false equivalency here. And I’ll tell you why.
When we’re talking about the Bible, and the dynamic of community of belief versus infidels, the tale is that told in the Books of Joshua and Judges. The imperatives for violence are not there, and the advantage of the Israelites is worded by God thus: “I have delivered … into your hands.”
In Chapter 8, however, there are specific imperatives toward violence in the taking of Ai:
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Then the LORD directed Joshua, “Stretch out the javelin in your hand toward Ai, for I will deliver it into your power.” Joshua stretched out the javelin in his hand toward the city,
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and as soon as he did so, the men in ambush rose from their post, rushed in, captured the city, and immediately set it on fire.
end quote.

Now that’s weird.
It’s all in past tense.
And it’s so closed-ended. There’s nothing about the here and now.
Well, I’d just better keep trying to find those commands for the genocide of Muslims!

In chapter 10, there is the terrible fate of five Amorite kings.
Five Amorite kings . . . I’m not seeing anything about Muslims here. Nothing about Arabs even. Nothing about pagans.
Just the very specific (temporal and spacial distinctions) Five Amorite Kings.
I’m seeing a lot of history here, not a lot of commands for now.
Hmmmm. I’m disappointed. Where were all those parallels with Islam?
Islam is about the present and future.
The books of Joshua and Judges are about the past.
Jesus Christ came to fulfill the law, and then, he turns around and gives two more commandments:
Love one another as I have loved you
love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul and mind.
Well, I’m still looking.
I don’t see anyone implementing Mosaic law or demanding the implementation of it anywhere.
I see plenty of advocates for the unchanging Sharia law.
Care to stone an adulteress today?
How about whipping a woman who’s been raped?
See how little changes when your religion is all about the present and future?

And just to properly amplify the point:
have you seen anything like this carried out by Christians against Muslims?
The Quran says this must happen, that these people deserved to die.
A massacre like this one, carried out by Muslims, will happen again, and again.
Don’t tell me anything about the violence in the Bible. I don’t see any present-day massacres inspired by it.

eib, Good stuff. I too tire of people saying there are parallels between the Old Testament and the Korshitran, that the OT is full of violence. As you say, the Korshitran commands violence NOW and as a means of conquering the world. It is the mooslum duty to kill! There is no comparison between the story of a god admonishing his people and the acts of a herd in present day committing violence against anyone and everyone who is not part of their blood cult. Without the Jews, the world would not be as advanced as it is. Without the mooslums, the world would be a better place. A more backward, ignorant people than the mooslums do not exist in present day or past history.

Hey, Honestly If you read the versus before and After each of the ones They posted here (And Proved to be “Lies” lol) then you would see that its taken out of Context… Muhammad wasn’t perfect… but they Claim that the Qu’ran is… Just like the bible. Islam is Modeled after Christianity Except Its More Focused on What You can Do For Allah and not about How You can get Saved by Jesus

The Bible never claims itself to be perfect, clear or without contradictions.
In fact, it is a scriptural and religious truth that many verses of the Bible contradict each other and can be misinterpreted.
The Koran claims perfect clarity, finality, and immutability.
Another difference for the false equivalency.

Well, since Muhammad was JUST another man, and lived as a vile creature, he most certainly was no match for the “Divine” profit, Jesus. Who came before Muhammad. The Son of God. The Prince of Peace. Surely if there were ever a cut and dried case for Intellectual Property copyright infringement, it would be brought against Muhammad for stealing so much from the early scriptures the Jewish Tora and the Holy Bible.

islam is a “belief system” (it’s not a religion) that appeals directly to man’s carnal desires. Food, drink, and sex. 23 stinking virgins, the whole nine yards. Here’s my thought-satan could not have scripted a better system to dupe man into pursuing his weaknesses straight to hell. Coincidence or grand design? You make the call.