If attempting to be a leader and motivate your teammates to win a critical game means you're boorish, then I wish the Titans had the most boorish quarterback in league history.

Again, you are making the massive mistake of equating Young's immature temper tantrum with Brady's calculated efforts to motivate his teammates. They could not be more dissimilar.

Brady leads. Young runs away.

Recognizing how good Brady is doesn't make me less of a Titans fan. I just want what's best for the Titans, and I believe the best to be a quarterback other than Vince Young. You don't know what you're going to get when you draft a quarterback. Maybe you'll get a Brady and maybe not. Since we know what we have in Vince Young and it's not good, I'm an advocate of taking a shot at getting a Brady.

My comment wasn't really directed at that particular opinion. It was directed more at the general sentiment displayed in your post. Some people refuse to give VY credit when he (at least in the last two years) has done pretty much everything asked of him on the field. In the last two years we are 12-6 in games that VY has started and 1-10 in games he hasn't started. His stats put him in the upper echelon of passers. People still think we should trade or cut him and go after Kolb of all people. My point was that he isn't getting the respect he deserves, not necessarily that he is a top 5 qb.

And he was qualified to be the passer rating leader for a couple weeks after he was put on injured reserve, so don't act like he's only been throwing 5 times a game.

You can tell your argument isn't very strong when you have to go back 2 years to find a game in which someone other than VY beat a team that had its starting qb in the game.

First and foremost, you are a noob, so you don't have benefit of knowledge of my feverent support of VY over the years. Even earlier this year up until his meltdown I really believed that he had turned the corner and got past his troubles. I thought he had proven me correct. Now, I'll admit, with each successive episode my baseline support has eroded. Honestly though, his reaction to the adversity he was handed really just convinced me that those who rushed to judgement initially were right all along. I see very little difference in the way he conducted himself during and after the Redskins game and his actions during and after the Jaguars game, week 1 of the 2008 season. What I conclude from that is he has not gone through the maturation process and has not grown into what I previously believed he had the potential to become. The main difference is this is year 5 and somewhere I have to draw a line. 5 years is too long to be experiencing these types of growing pains. The man obviously lacks the mental fortitude required to be a success at the quarterback position.

Now, you say that in the last two years we are 12-6 in games that VY has started and 1-10 in games he hasn't started. In two years there are potentially 32 regular season starts. Since the sum of your totals is 29 I assume you are referring to this past season so far and last season as there are 3 games remaining. Last year was rough. Collins was bad. Hindsight 20/20, there's a good chance VY would have pulled the team out of that early slump. Even got to 3-3. That's on Fisher. I think he was playing the wrong guy then. Then again, you have to see it through Fisher's eyes. He just got to 13-3 with Collins. VY might have been their best chance to win there.

Jay was a water carrying VY sherpa. I try to be for whoever is playing, but somewhere along the line I became failry ambolivent towards VY and his antics. Not against him just willing to tolerate him while winning. Back too point Jay speaks the truth about his position towards VY.

And Tex-Titan you are correct, but a common denominator with those water/oil mixtures was winning. Without the winning it just turns ugly

Sounds like someone who hates losing to me, I can see why our opinion differ because your an Ohio State fan and think Eddie George was great. I am a Vols fan and think Eddie George was mediocre, but not a legend. Anywho, VY is a winner, and acts like one. What do you see Peyton do when he isn't winning. He whines. Thanks.

If there's one thing a Vols fan knows it's being mediocre. And if you think Eddie was mediocre you obviously never saw him play.

I'm officially retiring from reply to any "VY just wins" template responses like this. Why? Because there's no thought put into it, it's generic, and quite frankly VY homers like this aren't worth my time. I also don't remember Peyton ever walking out on a team and then "texting" his apology. Besides, if Vince shouldn't have anything to be sorry for why's he apologizing?

Do you even watch football? What do you mean when you say "even though we don't win with anyone else"...

Tennessee Titans went 13-3 in 2008-09 essentially without VY. They opened 10-0. Kerry Collins had 9 starts in that unbeaten streak. He led a comeback against Jacksonville at LP Field in week 1 after VY threw a tantrum and quit on us. I along with 60,000 Titan fans boo'ed VY. He couldn't handle that either. We all know what that led to. Or do you?

OK, Kerry had one good season once. He followed it up with an 0-6 start and who came in to salvage the season?

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