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We got the ED this ep, very good song but the visual is not very appealing, they used the anime style illustrations instead of Light novel style illustrations like previous 2 seasons, may be because they don't have enough money to hire noizi ito. Some pictures in the ED is similar to the vol XXII illustrations.

Well it was all dialogue this time. Wonder what Shana'a plan is. Think it was obvious everyone would agree to her plan. Glad she got her melonpan after so long. So who were those 3 people in like the desert that suddenly got found by someone? Didn't get who they were or who found them. Pheles appeared for a bit. Wonder what she made for Johan. Seems like she can't use until Yoshida uses the charm she got. So Yuji is heading back to Japan. Nice to see his parents again as well. Also the ED was finally visualized.

I love the illustrations for the ED, they were really awesome.
Finally an episode to recover from all the fighting, it was great seeing everyone making their own resolve to continue fighting for their own beliefs. Cant wait to see what happens next.

So glad a long set of dialogue happened finally. With so much fighting and not much else, the characters were starting to seem emotionally one-dimensional.
Yuji appearing as himself next episode? Awesome!
I reckon it would be kick-ass if the ending was something like that the *real* original Yuji's plan was deception until he could bring down Bal Masque from the inside... although a totally foolish one.

So who were those 3 people in like the desert that suddenly got found by someone? Didn't get who they were or who found them. Pheles appeared for a bit.

Who are these 3 people? They have to be very important in Pheles' plan.

Till now, we anime viewers only know the existence of The Scroll of Secrets, given to Wilhelmina by Lamies as the second offering. What is the function of The Scroll of Secrets? Too many questions, too little answers. Next episode could not come soon enough.

Who are these 3 people? They have to be very important in Pheles' plan.

Till now, we anime viewers only know the existence of The Scroll of Secrets, given to Wilhelmina by Lamies as the second offering. What is the function of The Scroll of Secrets? Too many questions, too little answers. Next episode could not come soon enough.

Another good episode. 9/10. It was about time for some character development.

I just had to smile when I saw Shana finally eating some melon pan again with a smile on her face. She seems so innocent when she's like that.

I guess those rings will play a big role in Shana's plan, and it looks like Azure (the anti flame ring Yuji has) will play a role in the plan as well. There's probably some kind of connection between them. Looking forward to it.

Before executing this plan all flame haze had to find out their own reasons to fight though. Without a reason to fight, they'd be better off not fighting at all. Although the main reason for a flame haze to fight is to
protect the balance, the true/personal reason is different for every flame haze. We already learned that flame haze should be true to themselves in order to become truly strong. The two halves of a flame haze (human half and flame haze half) have to be merged into one. Shana got a huge power boost after realizing this, so I wonder if the others will get stronger as well after realizing their true reasons to fight.

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Originally Posted by ~Yami~

According to my lame memory, I thought Shana's existence has been erased since Yuji kidnapped her. But how come Chigusa still remember her?

I think it's because her powers and existence were sealed by Tartaros (Bel Peol's chains), so when Tenmoku Ikko cut the chains around Shana wrist, her powers and her existence came back.

Speaking of what are they really protecting, not just the balance of the world but something more, I remebered that Rebecca said something about a certain person? who would that be?? and Khamsin wanted to protect Yoshida?...

If I am not mistaken, the novel reveals that the location of Seireiden in Episode 6 - 15 of Season 3, where SotF returned via God Gate, is China. Now, SotF Yuji wants the Seireiden to go in northeast direction to Misaki City, Japan.

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I feel quite weird that Shana is surprised to find melon pans being sold in Hong Kong.

When Shana became a Flame Haze in Tendōkyū, subsequent battle in Tendōkyū involving Vine subsequently caused it to sink into the ocean, in Hong Kong. After Wilhelmina bid goodbye to her in Hong Kong, Shana traveled alone, before going to Europe. If that is the case, she could have explored that city by herself, and could have discovered melon pans there.

Thus, in Episode 16 of Season 3, she could not be that surprised to find melon pans in Hong Kong. Weird, isn't it?
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Originally Posted by elleinad00

why is it Rebecca's not coming with Shana and co.??

Rebecca did mention that she is going to Tendōkyū.

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Originally Posted by taichi-kun

And the rings... Yuuji has one and shana like 3 or 4

If you do not mind the spoiler, I can reveal the answer in spoiler thread. Still, I cannot be sure whether the anime will reveal what the rings are, or not in subsequent episodes.

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Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

On that matter why did Sale say that he was an artifical flame haze and that his creator was there. So was he not human to begin with?

Well, the information can be found in Shakugan no SHANA Wikia page. Just search for Sale Habichtsburg in that Wikia. It is not really a spoiler-laden page, as it depicts events that were animated before, but not explained in detail.

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Last edited by alvinkhorfire; 2012-01-29 at 03:19.
Reason: Thanks to Elf song for correcting my mistake.