Tuesday, 7 June 2011

WHO IS CHRIS WITTWERS LEGAL TEAM?

I have had a row on Facebook this morning, because I am so concerned about the safety of Chris Wittwer, who is in jail - I understand he is in Exeter jail, shortly to be moved to an open prison.

The whole thing is very curious, because we have not only been told that the reason the jail location wher Chris has got to be kept secret "for Chris's own safety" but that we can not be told the identity of Chris's legal team either!

Think about it. The only people who would want to harm Chris Wittwer are paedophiles! Chris Wittwer is naming and shaming paedophiles, so that anyone who has children can check to see if there is one living near them, and keep their children safe. All the people Chris names and shames have already been placed on the child abuse register, so the police know where all these people live.

I have been thrown me off one of the Chris Wittwer support groups, for being too insistant on the need for more transparency. The person who threw me off is well aware that I am a survivor of the Staffordshire Pindown child abuse and also the secret family court abuse. I have repeatedly tried to warn Chris about some very bad people who mucked up the Mothers For Justice and other grass roots websites, and I greatly fear that they are involved in the stitch up of Chris Wittwer, who should not be in jail, if he had had proper legal advice and representation.

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Hmmmm - I think he was lucky to only get 10 months seeing as he has multiple previous convictions for violent behaviour and his latest escapade involved parents having to protect their child in its pushchair after he and other thugs went on the rampage in Exeter. Or does it not matter that a small child was exposed to his violence?

If you assume that the only people who perpetrate sexual abuse are those already registered with the police then you are, frankly, very naive. Most of the people convicted of sexual offences don't have previous convictions for this kind of crime (One O'Clock news today being a prime example, or Vanessa George, or a thousand and one other examples). Also most of the people who are on the 'register' don't go on to commit further sexual offences.

The person who might abuse your children will 9 times out of 10 be someone you already know and trust, not some stigmatised pariah from a football hooligans website.

The argument that "Chris Wittwer is using a jail space that a paedophile could be using" is moronic. That's like saying "a murderer is taking up a place that someone involved in genocide could be using".

He broke the law repeatedly and was given enough chances not to re-offend. He couldn't help himself, committed more acts of violence and is now paying the consequences.

This guy is a vicious thug who wholly deserves his prison sentence. He's a totally loathesome piece of trash who has used his 'campaign' to propel him into some kind of bizzare narcissitic quasi-fame. Personally, I think he has a personality disorder.

I'd be prepared to cut him some slack if it was a first offence but he has another offence for football hooliganism; one for a nasty unprovoked assault which left a victim with a broken jaw; and a history of breaching community orders.

He has no more 'right' to protection than any other incarcerated criminal.

Let me see, Wittwer PLEAD GUILTY to affray - a serious violent offence. He already HAS a suspended sentence on his record for the same offence. Added to that, he also has a conviction for a violent assault in a nightclub.

He has also been in receipt of football banning orders - of which he has breached.

The maximum sentence the judge could have given Wittwer was 3 years. Given the aggravating factors (vulnerable children present, part of a large gang, prolonged violence in a busy public place), Wittwer got off lightly if anything.

Indeed, the presence of the other defendants probably DECREASED the sentence if anything as Wittwer could not have been sentenced more harshly than the others. And he wasn't - they ALL got 10 months. The others got that sentence suspended because they had never received a suspended sentence before. Wittwer had - for the same offence.

But Chris Wittwer is only posting things which are already in the public domain. He's not doing anything wrong. Just as I wasn't, when I posted about Richard Gardner (paedophile) and Ralph Underwager (paedophile), yet I was also attacked and called vile things.

Can't believe there are people defending this guy. These are probably the very people who will scream about soft sentences; yet a violent thug gets rightly locked up and they scream injustice.

They are probably the same people who want to give that guy who killed Colin Hatch and attempted to kill Ian Huntley a knighthood. Even though he is a dangerous psychopath serving a life sentence for armed robbery, drug dealing and other violent offences.

The Chris Wittwer I know is a gentle, kind, sensitive man, who detests the abuse of children and the re-abuse of adult victims of paedophiles. I also know that Chris was abused himself as a child, which explains why he is so protective of children and other child abuse survivors.

I notice that all these negative comments about Chris Wittwer are from anonymous sources. Perhaps if you Chris haters want to post your grievances against Chris Wittwer using your real names, I might give a bit more creedence to what you are saying. Otherwise I shall just carry on assuming that you are all disgruntled paedophiles.

ZoompadHe has also posted people in the past who were merely accused of offences and never convicted and then refused to take them down...just in case.

What about the children of the people he posts and the bullying they receive because of his website? Or the other family members who are completely innocent of any crime and yet get stigmatised because of this site?

And given that people can move area/house after their conviction, how exactly does the website protect anyone? The details he posts are just lifted from newspaper reports and I've never read a court report in a local newspaper that actually gets the facts straight in any case. Even so, if CW reports someone as having committed an offence and living in say Aberdeen, how does he know where they live now? They might have moved to Brighton, Plymouth, Swansea... you don't seriously believe that he has tabs on over 10,000 people and their whereabouts?

@Zoompad"Otherwise I shall just carry on assuming you are all disgruntled paedophiles."

What a leap of logic - they don't agree with me therefore they must be paedophiles. That's a bit like 'anyone who does not agree with the Party is a counter-revolutionary and enemy of the state'. Have you considered that the people who have concerns about CW might just be capable of rational thought?

Although my own life has been blighted by child abuse, I must admit that I did not understand the utter ruthlessness of paedophiles until fairly recently.

Paedophiles hunt in packs, and they cover each others backs. They claim to love children, but in truth the only reason they do for children is because they are too inadiquate to form proper adult relationships, they are weak minded, selfish, self pitying bullies.

We have been lied to again and again regarding paedophiles. We have been told that paedophiles can be helped by councelling. That is complete rubbish. Paedophi8les choose to go after kids, its not an illness, its not a malady, it is a lifestyle choice. Paedophiles know full well that it is wrong to lust after children, but they cannot be bothered to control their own wayward urges, instead, they gang up and try to force the rest of society to change the laws so that they can indulge in their perversities.

The only way paedophiles can be "cured" as I can see is if they repent of their sin - because that is what lusting after children is, is is a SIN - and humbly ask God to help them. But paedophiles are so arrogant that they have even been trying to alter the Word of God to allow them to indulge in their lust, and that is one of the reasons why the church is in a big mess.

When Jesus comes back there won't be any more of this messing about. Paedophiles have been living in clover for these last few years, but those that refuse to repent are in for a rude awakening shortly, when the Lord returns. If people think Chris Wittwer is tough on paedophiles wait till the day of the Lord!

Judge not lest you be judged yourself...something about specks of sawdust in other people's eyes when you have a plank in your own...turning the other cheek...forgiveness of sin... Ring any bells?

Whilst I respect your religious beliefs at least be consistent in them. What do you think Jesus would have to say about CW pointing the finger of blame at everyone else and not offering forgiveness whilst still being a sinner himself?

Or is he in fact the Messiah come to rescue us from the hell of Paedogeddon...?

'When Jesus comes back there won't be any more of this messing about.'

Jesus?! What that guy who went around saying 'how dare you offer to take the speck out of your brother's eye when there is a beam in thine own'? Who said 'judge not, lest ye be judged; for come the day of judgement, you will be judged on how you have judged others?' Who said a person should not forgive an offender seven times but seventy times seven? Who said that there was more rejoicing over one sinner who who repents and returns to God than over ninety-nine others who are righteous and haven't strayed away!'?

Jesus was the bloke who preferred to hang around with prostitutes, fraudsters (tax collectors), lepers and persons of hated minorities (Samaritans) than the hypocritical adherants of organisation religion.

I think he'd have VERY little in common with Chris Wittwer. He'd probably tell the story of the guy who shouted loudest in the temple about how good he was and how much money he gave while castigating the woman who gave little but loved much.

And how's this for a lesson if you are talking about what will happen at Armaggeddon?

“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?

When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Thank you for helping us Pindown child abuse survivors, it was horrible for so many of us before we realised that there were others. So many of us thought that we were the only ones, that the horrible hell houses of abuse like Chardswell, Witherwack, HDLG ect ect ect were isolated incidents, and we did not realise that there were big gangs of paedophiles and human traffickers. Thank you Lord that the truth is all coming out now.

Please Lord, can you please continue to protect Stuart Syvret, and give him courage, and faith. Thank you for all these brave men and women who are fighting against paedophilia and human trafficking.

Lord, you see all of us, you have known all of us even before we were born, as we were being formed in the womb. You see everything. Lord, the paedophiles are even trying to change your Holy word, the thing that John your friend wrote that must not be changed. Now, 2000 yearsw later, the paedophiles are trying to change your Holy words, not as people like William Tyndale was doing, to translate the Word to make sure that poor people could read it, but to alter it so that they can lust after and rape children without being condemned for it, or falling under the curse that John wrote at the end of the Word. So Lord, I know that you won't leave mankind without the Word.

Lord, if any of these paedophiles are capable of repentance I do ask you to help them to reject these horrible lusts and repent, but they are so hard and selfish that I dont have much faith about that. There is the accusation levelled at me, of trying to take a splinter out of an eye with a plank in my own. But Lord, I dont have a hard heart or a selfish ego because my life is in your hands and you are in my heart, as you promised to anyone who invites you in. I forgive the false accusation levelled at me in that respect Lord, and ask, if possible, that the person who levelled it sees the truth crisp and sharp.

I am very aware that I have some very angry paedophiles reading this blog post, and that some of them are from Jersey.

I do feel it is my Christian duty to warn you people of the grave danger your souls are in. If you die in your sins the Word of God CLEARLY says that you will go to hell.

You may not be able to understand what a terrible place hell is, but as a survivor of Pindown abuse I can tell you very easily what hell is going toi be like. It is a place where you will cry and cry and cry for help, but none will come. It is a terrible place of pain and sorrow. There will not be any escape at all, you can never escape from such a terrible place, once you are there you are there for ever, eternally.

God does not want to send any human being to hell, he did not make hell for human beings at all, but for the devil. But people who refuse to listen to the Lord and refuse to reject the devils works and carry on allowing their bodies to do the work of the devil will not be saved when the Day of the Lord comes, and the Lord will say to them "Go away, I never knew you" and they will be left behind and not be taken up with the Lord.

I am very well aware that some of you reading this blog are church leaders, and so I am quite certain that you people will have no problem in finding the scriptures that I am alluding to. You people are in a terrible state, because you have used your authority to lead other people astray. It is not too late for you to repent. I know some of you are not paedophiles, but you have allowed paedophiles to escape justice, and because of what you have done you have allowed victims of child abuse and people who have tried to help them, like Stuart Syvret, to suffer more persecution, and unless you repent the Lord will certainly punish you for what you have done. The time to repent is now.

When I was a child locked up in that hell hole, I was so very very frightened, but I knew that if only I could get out that I could reach a safe place.

Hell will be such a terrible place, it will be a place of no escape and no hope. God will have come back and gone, and there will be no hope left for so many people who remain behind.

We are all living on part of a cooling star. We are all made of stardust and spirit. Liars have come and told us things that are not true, that there is no God, that we were not created but that we happened by accident, out of earth soup and a strike of lightning. That is a lie. we WERE created, and so wonderfully, we were created because God wanted us, we were created in his image. We were created to form families and communities, and to be at one with the other animals of the earth. We have wrecked the earth and oppressed the other animals and we have stuck two fingers up at our creator, we murdered the prophets who tried to lead us to do right, and we murdered God who was Jesus Christ. We have made this beautiful planet into a gigantic scrap yard, we have murdered and wasted and plundered and raped and the Lord never made us to do those things at all!

The Lord is so good. He is wanting to save us - from ourselves - and he said, "Follow me" and lived amongst us, to show us how to live and love.

I know you paedophiles have also been abused, but dont you see, that what you are doing is so wicked. Why do to this new generation even worse things that were done to you? You could repent, you could ask the Lord to forgive you, you could stop right now, and ask for healing. You can do this, the Lord promised to forgive those who repent. It is not too late, but it will be when the Lord comes back.

child abusers do not even see children as other humans never mind wanting to repent for their sins. You are annoying to them as you are attempting to spoil their fun. Yes fun and self gratification. they are obviously at some level really sad people with some kind of personality disorder. Far too arrogant to take on board what you are saying. I admire you for trying!Don't mind if I am annon do you? This time not because I,m a kiddy tickler, but because i have children myself. Keep up the good work Zoompad!

But as for you paedophiles, corrupt politicians and backsliding but assumed to be pillars of society church attenders, well, I will also post your anon comments, as long as they do not insult me using f c and b words ect, and as long as they do not refer to my own mental health. You see, as my favourite radio presenter of all time used to say, "My health is not in question".

Zoompad,I agree with you that Chris has been doing great work and his sentence is suspicious. I have not met him but I have corresponded with him several times and he struck me as absolutely determined to protect children and to obtain justice where it is due. I am especially impressed that he got the word out about Jon Venables' identity. Several of us had already known who he was for almost a year but Chris was the one who got the information into the media. I am one of those who believes that Jon Venables has absolutely lost all right to anonymity. Considering what was done to James, I never believed that he and Robert should have had anonymity anyway. And for those who don't know all of the details, make no mistake, James Bulger was sexually abused prior to his murder. I believe that Chris was locked up in part to prevent him from revealing Robert Thompson's current identity and image. He was issued an injunction against doing so and I saw the injunction myself. Perhaps by the time he is released, Thompson will have a new name and be living elsewhere. Whatever the case may be, it is my hope that Chris is released soon and that he continues his good work. Clearly he has made some huge mistakes in his life, but then again, who hasn't? All those throwing stones at him best take a look in the mirror and clean out some of the skeletons in their closets. Keep up the great work/blog Zoompad.

If anyone wants to know just what kind of a man Chris Wittwer is, they need only listen to Calder's radio show (Chris calls in). You have listen to a fair bit of it - he is exposed as a fraud and a liar. There are now rumours that he has defrauded his donors. Not saying this is true or false - just that I believe he is being investigated.

Wake up and smell the coffee and realise just what a nasty piece of work this man is.

I did try to get onto Vectis Radio myself, and was puzzled that the follow up call I was promised was never made. Now I understand!

Poor Chris, he must be gutted. I did try to warn him how nasty and crafty the paedophiles are. The bullying was because of the moles on Chris's site, the paedophiles are so crafty, they are always planning new tricks to destroy anyone who tries to do anything to stop them having sex with children.

I also wondered why Jeremy Kyle didn't respond to the letter I sent him via the BBC, didn't realise Calder Jon was his PA. That is very interesting.

Chris Wittwer has tried so hard to stop child abuse. His enemies are so strong. I hardly know what to pray for Lord, because all our enemies surround us, and anyone who opposes child abuse is targetted.

I am just sitting here, in Your presence, asking You to help. You see everything, you can see all these people, plotting and planning. Please will you expose very clearly, so everyone can see, all Chris Wittwers enemies, all these people who are plotting to discredit him? The foxes in the vinyard.

And please will you console Chris? His heart must be broken about all of this. Please wrap your loving arms around him, and heal him, and show him what you would like to show to him. And please help him to read that book from cover to cover that I have nagged him about.

Well, apparently, or at least so I have been told by many anonymous posters, I'm just a sad, fat, ugly old nutter, so I don't really see why you should be that bothered about my opinion anyway.

You think what you want, and let me have my own private thoughts. Trying to bully me into having the same opinion as yourself by calling me "stupid" isn't realkly goping to make me change my mind about Chris Wittwer. As far as I can see, he's a good man who has been targetted by the usual suspects. Most likely, the same gangsters who sent two thugs to bust my mums window last week.

The Lord is coming back soon. Then you won't have to put up with tiresome people like me any more. The Lord is coming to take all the people who love him, and love justice, peace, harmony and righteousness away from this sinking ship.

The Lord compared the last days to Noah's Ark. He said that it will be as the days of Noah. Noah built the ark, out of faith he built it. By faith we shall be saved.

This world is sinking into greed, selfishness, immorality, deciet, lust, all the sins that Sodom and Gommorah were condemned for, and more, The little babies and children, the old people, these are the people who the strongest ought to protect the most, God wanted us to be kind and good, but these days the children are in terrible danger from sexual prediters, and the old people are being put onto the Liverpool Care Pathway, and involuntary euthenased, which is murder.

You won't have to put up with "stupid" people like me for much longer, but when we are all taken up by the Lord you will remember my words. You will remember them, as you cry pitously for mountains to fall upon you, as in vain you try to hide from the wrath of the Lord God Almighty. For the terrible day of the Lord is coming, as was prophesied.

As for me being "taken in", well, I have to hand it to you paedoscum, you really are very crafty. You have had me confused quite a few times. Just so happy that I can always talk to the Lord Jesus Christ, and He is never confused, and sees everything!

I'm not being "proud" by believing in the promises of the Lord Jesus Christ. The Lord promised salvation to those who wanted it, it's a free gift, he died so that we could be saved, he took our punishment.

You could be saved as well, if you wanted to be. That's just it though, isn't it? You don't want to leave your wicked ways and follow the Lord and serve him, because you love the world too much. You know that if you follow the Lord in this life you will be persecuted, and will suffer, because anyone who loves the Lord is persecuted, and you don't like the sound of that, do you? But the Lord promised that anyone who suffers for serving him in this life will be rewarded and consoled in the next.

So no, I am not proud. I hope I am a faithful servant of the Lord my God. The Lord told me to stand up for the weakest, and I hope I try to do that. But I do know where I am going, because I know that the Lord is not a liar.

We have a choice at the moment, and the choice is wether to accept the Lord Jesus Christ's great sacrifice for us, or wether to reject it.

We can choose to either repent of our own sins, and humble ourselves to Christ and beg him to forgive us and change our hearts, or to keep our pride and not admit that we have sinned. The wages of sin is death, as the corrupt lawyers keep telling us, ignorance of the law is no excuse. Well, if that is the harsh standard of mankind, why are people so upset about God using the same inflexible measure?

The difference is, with God, is that he paid the price of our sin, with his great sacrifice. The Lord Jesus Christ didn't commit any sin, not even a little tiny sin, and he was subjected to a secret illegal trial in the night and sentanced to death. He said "FATHER, FORGIVE THEM, FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO" as he died. He was the most beautiful and loving person that has ever walked upon this earth - and we murdered him!

So the human race is wicked. We murdered God! How can any of our wicked race claim that we deserve anything other than to be punished for what our race did? Yet this same Jesus who we murdered wants us to be saved! He conquered death, he went through death but how could death have any hold over him, when he had done nothing wrong? And it's our let out clause, he said that anyone who repents of their sins and believes in him, that he will save them from the just punishment that the human race deserves.

The most wicked and desperate people, murderers, paedophiles, they can all be saved. Even greedy bankers can be saved! But there are some who can't be saved, who have committed the unforgivable sin, against the Holy Spirit. I don't know what that is, but I suppose it must have something to do with satanism. I know some satanists have been saved though, they have rejected their witchcraft and repented and asked the Lord to help them. You have to leave all the wickedness behind, and not look back.

You accuse me of being a vile person, because I tar all the anonymous cowards who post abuse onto my blog with the same brush.

Yes, I assume that the posters of these anonymous comments are either paedophiles or silly women who choose to support and cover up for paedophiles. There are some women so crushed that they would rather stick like glue to a paedophile than risk being alone. What a shame.

I have had years of abuse from people who hate me for posting about how I was abused as a child, and how Richard Gardner and Ralph Underwager pulled off one of the biggest con tricks all over the world, conning people into believing that they were genuine psychologists who cared about the welfare of children, when they were, in fact, a couple of depraved old farts.

Keep up the good work Barbara carrying on exposing these vile evil low life scum who abuse children there time is virtually up. There have been too many so called child advocates suddenly appearing from no where many of whom have joined forces with the gatekeepers.

Football violence. OK when you're a teenager. But what a ridiculous activity to be involved in when you are his age. Why? Because you acquire/add to an existing criminal record, harming your future chances of getting a job, spend time in prison, which means that your mortgage isn't being paid, the food is shit, and you have to spend time mixing with petty criminals, who are usually drug addicts and alkies. Did none of this occur to him :-)

I agree. So, why were the people Chris Wittwer were fighting with not also prosecuted and sent to prison? After all, Chris was not shadow boxing, there were other people throwing punches, yet he was the only one who was prosecuted!

Chris has never tried to gloss over the fact that he had a short fuse at that time.

Another point worth mentioning is that Chris was also abused as a child, which probably explains his short temper. He realised that the punishment he recieved for fighting was deserved - but why was he the only one who was prosecuted, and why were the Orees plotting against him to get him in prison beforehand?

Paedophiles are clever and manipulative. They will crawl their way into someones confidence and attempt to push their buttons. I know, because I have had them pushing mine. Anyone who exposes them will draw their unwelcome attention. They do crafty set ups, lay honey traps, befriend their victim and push buttons to make them fall into a pre prepared trap.

Just thought I'd answer this (was browsing and saw your question). The other people did not have a criminal record. Wittwer already HAD a suspended sentence on his record for a similar offence plus other convictions for violent offences, plus a record of breaching orders.

Since the others never received a suspended sentence in the past, that was an option for them - not Wittwer.

Actually, in pure legal terms, they all received the SAME sentence (10 months) - it is just for those without a record, that sentence was suspended. Wittwer already had long record of violent convictions against his name so a custodial sentence was always going to be the likely one.

I still think that Chris Wittwer was treated very harshly. There were mitigating circumstances, which don't appear to have been taken into account. Chris hasn't tried to hide the fact that he got into fights, but he has been spending his time trying to help other people since then. He has found an outlet for his pent up anger. The reason he has been such an angry person is that he was abused as a child.

I think looking back, people in the future will be quite wide eyed about why people like Chris Wittwer were put into jail, and why sneaky unrepentant dangerous paedophiles were let off going to jail. I know the paedophile community were cheering like crazy when Chris was banged up, it was like Christmas come early for them, and they were cheering and crowing in the same way when Senator Stuart Syvret was sent to La Moye prison. I think anyone with a grain of intellegence would feel rankled about that, because the judicial system is supposed to deliver justice, and to give joy to the paedophile community by banging up two of its fiercest opponents does not seem at all like justice.

I suppose as a Christian I ought not to be surprised, as we Christians live our lives in expectation of a higher justice.

it is obvious the paedos on here are going to attack chris, they cite his 'violence' for why they hate him so much, but i have to say if someone is exposing paedophiles and is violent i would congratulate him for his work revealing paedos while still being able to say i disagree with his violence. but these are merely putting him down for his violence while not mentioning that revaling paedos identities is a good thing to any normal person. subnormal is a word used to describe paedos and its true. paedos deserve to die, not the innocent children they murder and rape for sick twisted sexual gratification because they cant be normal. chris may have been violent but this may be a result of the abuse he suffered as a child which causes a lot of anger. whats more important, protecting paedos or calling someone who is angry about being abused. and it is true, the only real people (anonymous paedos) who would call chris while demeaning his work revealing paedos is obviously paedos.. reveal yourselves child murdering sick scum