Todays Cowherd Show

Jorge Sedano was guest hosting and his last guest was Butch Davis. I guess Davis is working with the game day gang and they are doing a 7 teams in 7 days caravan previewing the upcoming season. Cowherd is really touting the Pac Ten as the 2nd best conference as usual. I know I know, he is a west coast guy so no shock he is touting the pac ten. all of the talking heads are cautiously picking TOSU to make the playoffs "if" Braxton is ready with his shoulder and stays healthy. But my main question is how is Butch Davis still cashing in on college football? Of his 2 head coaching jobs @ Miami and UNC both of which he left a mess with NCAA and academic investigations under way. I guess he was cleared by the NCAA and has no "show cause" to stop him from coaching again. just find that surprising that he has skated from the messes he created.

Still mad at Butch from his days with the Browns. He ruined Tim Couch's career. Couch somehow became a joke but go back and look at his stats and remember some of the games, he was pretty good. Somehow lead the Browns to a playoff game.

Because ESPN doesn't care how horrible you are as a coach or person...

Examples: Stephen A Smith is still employed despite being outwardly racist and insensitive to DV; Matthew Barnaby was FINALLY let go after multiple DV charges; Jay Mariotti was FINALLY let go after a few too many run-ins for DV and alcohol abuse

Also, ESPN isn't governed by the NCAA.

EDIT: DV in this instance is shorthand for Domestic Violence, not down votes, just in case folks are confused.

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. ~ Bruce Lee

Stephen A. Smith was in no way outwardly racist, nor was he insensitive to domestic violence. Women, regardless how people feel, bare a responsibility to keep themselves out of that situation, as well as men to have the presence of mind not to abuse women.

It's not one way, and the physical & verbal abuse by women to men is underwhelmingly acknowledged, and is a huge problem.

Between goals and achievement is discipline and consistency. That fire you have inside to do whatever you love is placed there by God. Now go claim it. ~ Denzel Washington

I'm not specifically talking about what happened with Ray Rice & his wife, but generally speaking. I don't know what she did to him, either verbally or physically prior to them getting on the elevator.

In NO WAY does that excuse Ray, but at the same time, she MARRIED HIM. That's an act of trust and security; you take vows. So she must at least know him well enough to be confident this was a one time thing, OR they could have a volatile relationship in private. We have no real way of knowing, but I will speculate and say that she probably wasn't innocent and that Ray just couldn't take it at the moment and regrets what he did.

We all have moments where we snap, at home, at work, in relationships, etc. At some points enough is enough, even though we may not like how we've responded to the situation after letting emotions get the better of us and we get a chance to calm down.

I just don't like any double standards concerning women. Women say and do some terrible, hurtful things on purpose that they know will provoke you, on purpose and then sit behind the premise of "being a woman" to protect them from retaliation, whereas if it was man, society would applaud the verbal/physical abuser getting their ass kicked.

I just see more of the human element that needs to be addressed versus the gender element.

Between goals and achievement is discipline and consistency. That fire you have inside to do whatever you love is placed there by God. Now go claim it. ~ Denzel Washington

It's pretty disgusting that you would place any blame on a woman for a man hitting her. I read what you wrote so you don't need to type it in caps to try to make me understand. You're dead wrong. DEAD WRONG.

It's pretty disgusting that your reading of that brought you to that conclusion. The only thing I typed in caps was "MARRIED" and I respect your opinion, but being a trained individual I don't separate domestic violence from general violence - the only difference is that it's between a man & woman who know (and should trust) each other. Violence can be instigated and performed by any person, no matter your gender and shouldn't be instigated by anyone no matter the gender in civil situations.

Women aren't exempt. PERIOD.

Between goals and achievement is discipline and consistency. That fire you have inside to do whatever you love is placed there by God. Now go claim it. ~ Denzel Washington

It's not disgusting. Obviously a man should not hit a woman just for an argument. That is a terrible thing to do. But if the woman gets violent first, sometimes there might not be another option. It isn't exactly black and white.

This is exactly what I'm saying, it's definitely shades of gray for each individual scenario, but there should be equally firm lines for forceful and antagonizing acts of violence that are baseline - not adhered to a discriminatory gender bias.

Between goals and achievement is discipline and consistency. That fire you have inside to do whatever you love is placed there by God. Now go claim it. ~ Denzel Washington

“Don’t fear criticism. The stands are full of critics. They play no ball. They fight no fights. They make no mistakes because they attempt nothing. Down on the field are the doers, they make mistakes because they attempt many things.”

Not defending Stephen's comments but I wonder the point he was trying to make is about not instigating no matter the situation. Meaning, if you are in a neighborhood where you are the minority, whether it be race, gender, religion, etc, don't let your actions initiate a confrontation. But trying to imply that point with a domestic violence situation.........I don't think it translates. A man or woman should never cause harm to the other unless in true fear of their life, in other words, defense. NO EXCUSE!

"Championships are not won on Saturdays in November. Championships are won on Tuesdays in August." -- Kerry Combs

Matt Millen-destroyed the Lions with an inability to assess college talent and make good decisions on draft day. Yet, ESPN has him as an analyst for CFB. I can't stand watching a game he is calling. His opinion on any player is completely irrelevant to me.

Matt thinks he knows all, but his air time shows him to be quite uniformed. Problem is that much of the audience is also uninformed so they take his commentary as gospel. Can't stand listening to him during a game.

Can't forget Jim Bowden, the guy ran two baseball franchises into the ground (Reds, Nats) as GM. It took the Reds farm system years to recover and as you can see the Nats have finally been able to field a good team as well recently. It always cracks me up when I hear Bowden talking baseball personal moves on ESPN.

I look at it the opposite way: despite his coaching resume (which does have some success in it), no one has hired him. It seems to me that he hasn't skated away from those messes. It appears that it caused AD's to stay away from considering him.