Can’t argue with you about where we are as a society, but at the same time, I don’t believe in making it easy for a sicko to do great harm. We don’t sell RPG’s at the 7-11’s, nor do I think many people believe we should. There have to be some limits on the degree of dangerousness of weapons that we allow the general public to possess. That’s what I think the coming debate will be about.

So would you sell a fully automatic rifle to someone listed as a suspected terrorist by the FBI and CIA?

You’re the one using the straw man.
Here, hold this match.
National Firearms Act of 1934.
You should read up on it.
It’s been illegal to own “fully automatic” since then.
And the attack didn’t use “fully automatic”.

“I dont believe in making it easy for a sicko to do great harm. “-Juno67
“There have to be some limits on the degree of dangerousness of weapons that we allow the general public to possess.” -Juno67

We have a gun grabber here!
Juno, your level of stupid should hurt, and be self-lethal.

Connecticut law doesn’t allow 20 year old Adam Lanza to possess or own said firearms he was carting around.
The school is a gun free zone.
What more restrictions do you want?
None of the weapons he had were full auto.
Full auto has been illegal since 1934.
Your strawmen don’t hold up.

Most of the whackos who go shoot up schools are certifiable. They need to be in institutions instead of “given medications” and turned loose on society. The fact that the guns used by the murderers in these public massacres are illegal has gone right past the gun banners.

All of these people were underage, had illegal weapons, carried a grudge, were clinically insane, or all of the above.

juno, go whine somewhere else.

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posted on 12/16/2012 10:46:01 AM PST
by Monkey Face
(Remember the Reason for the Season!)

Had ONE administrator or teacher at that school been armed dozens of people would be alive today.

I would make one exception to gun laws: I would not trust anyone as dumb as YOU to have anything more powerful than a rubber band (and even then it would be the small kind, not the larger more dangerous kind).

I have a good friend who has a older brother that is mentally ill and he lives on the street. He’s not at all a violent character though he is self destructive and he makes a mild nuisance of himself. He won’t voluntarily adhere to any treatment and as he’s never posed a threat he has never been committed for any length of time. The mother is an enabler, to this day the brother (late 40’s) will show up for a meal or to get warm. The father became a hyper authoritarian and my friend grew up under that father. (My friend never had a good relationship with his father, in large part because of the problems with his brother.). The father recently died and the mother is aging. It’s all very sad. My friend is not known for his patients though he is a great guy. He has almost no patients in dealing with his brother -far be it from me to judge that.

Yeah!
And everywhere they banned guns, violent crime exploded out of control.

If criminals know their targets are unarmed, they are emboldened.
If they have doubts about whether or not their target will defend themself, they are less likely to commit the crime.
If they know for a fact that defense is assured, they avoid that place as it is too hard for them to ‘crack’ as it is harder to get at victims.

There is no earthly reason for depriving any of us of the means for self defense. If Juno67 wishes to be defenseless in the face of threats, so be it, good luck to his/her family, and I wouldn’t want this clown to be at my back in a firefight.
You are correct, Darks. You can’t fix stupid.

Cant argue with you about where we are as a society, but at the same time, I dont believe in making it easy for a sicko to do great harm. We dont sell RPGs at the 7-11s, nor do I think many people believe we should. There have to be some limits on the degree of dangerousness of weapons that we allow the general public to possess. Thats what I think the coming debate will be about.

For centuries children had easy access to loaded firearms which hung openly above the front door and there were NEVER situations like this.

The problem isn't the guns, it's the moral breakdown of society and the violations of our second amendment rights that result in a disarmed society which cannot protect itself.

If someone had been packing, they could have taken out this guy before the slaughter he committed. While it is true that someone still may have died, as the element of surprise was in his favor, anyone with their wits about them, well trained, and packing, could have taken him out.

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posted on 12/16/2012 6:30:37 PM PST
by metmom
(For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)

So long, juno67 (Posting History)Hat Tip to Flotsam_Jetsome, Old Sarge, and 50mm Gun grabber who did not understand, "shall not be infringed" rides outa here dripping guts and ashesDon't even think about taking our guns, you oddball

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