[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I don't think it's odd or creepy or anything else except normal. I think most of us have a type we are "normally" attracted to. Not to say that occasionally we don't stray from that type.

it's creepy to me because my ex-husband is dead and when I see someone who looks like him it sends a cold chill through me.

@LibbyBell wrote:I don't really have a favorite at this point, however, I do have a couple of opinions... I am concerned if Ben is F1 in that I have noticed he has made some comments (not quite derogatory but not the nicest). For example, we see him agreeing and piling on when the guys are talking about Tim being drunk and about Jeff. We also see him at the roast-- again, not saying the meanest comments but still, IMO, not the kind to be said by the F1. He also said goodbye to Bentley.

With JP, I have not seen him involved in any of the "drama" situations. Anyone else? Tim, Bentley, the roast, etc..? JP hasn't been involved. He has spoken with Ashley about those situations and we only see him being supportive and keeping focused on what he came there for-- Ashley.

IMO, this points to JP as being the F1 more than it does Ben F. It could also mean that TPTB have decided no edit is beyond messing with and they've decided that they can shake everything up by throwing their standard editing book out the window! Time will tell....

Just a question to you all (sorry I quoted you LB but your last line threw up the ? in mu mind), it has been mentioned in other threads that the JP outcome is "too obvious" and that tptb would never showcase an F1 this early. Not sure if I agree with this line of thinking or not but the question is If RS had not spoilt the outcome would it still be too obvious ?

I'm curious as to what most think of this.

Someone posted a great article regarding seeing what we want instead of what is really going on. Forgive me for not remembering who, but it was very enlightening and I do think that the connection with JP is more pronounced since RS says JP is the F1.

Funny, but when I read the spoilers for the first time after Monday's episode and found out that Ben was a possible F1, and then read some comments about him from posters, I couldn't help but think that the only reason people even liked him was because of spoilers. He's hardly gotten any face time, no dates or conversations with Ash, and yet people love him.... I just don't get that. He didn't even crack my top 10 list, let alone top 2!

I don't think any of Ashley's F4 were anybody's pick for fav pre-season. They're all pretty average in the looks dept imo, and below average for this show. But JP has become a fav because of the little bit of his personality we've been able to see. That, and being RS's declared F1 (imo). She had to take three more with her to F4, though, so maybe the other three will have great personalities too, when (if?) we're able to see them.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Funny, but when I read the spoilers for the first time after Monday's episode and found out that Ben was a possible F1, and then read some comments about him from posters, I couldn't help but think that the only reason people even liked him was because of spoilers. He's hardly gotten any face time, no dates or conversations with Ash, and yet people love him.... I just don't get that. He didn't even crack my top 10 list, let alone top 2!

ITA. He seems like a nice guy from his intro video and if he and Ashley end up together and they're happy, then I'll be happy she's in a loving relationship but I have no idea who this dude is or why people like him. I hope the show and he give me a reason next Monday though!

I too TA. Ben seems cute though I do wish he would wash his hair more. One of my unspoiled friends said something about Ashley letting go of all the "good looking" guys and keeping the long haired dudes. I was dying to laugh as one of those dudes could be the one she rides off into the sunset with.

On the other hand, there is something a little eerie about Ashley picking the look-alike to her dead boyfriend.

really?? does JP resemble him? is there a pic of him anywhere....just curious now 8)

eta - disregard... just saw it upthread. Wow - at first I thought I was looking at JP! but I guess if you have a "type" that's what you are attracted to. Bentley looks nothing like him though, so I don't think she intentionally was looking to "replace" him

He died of complications from pneumonia. I read that the last time she spoke with him before his death he mentioned that he was not feeling well. She did not get a chance to speak to him anymore after that conversation.

On the other hand, there is something a little eerie about Ashley picking the look-alike to her dead boyfriend.

I was worried about this before the season but after getting to see JP in action, I don't think the ex has anything to do with Ashley liking him. He is so charming and sweet, most woman would find him irresistible.

On the other hand, there is something a little eerie about Ashley picking the look-alike to her dead boyfriend.

I was worried about this before the season but after getting to see JP in action, I don't think the ex has anything to do with Ashley liking him. He is so charming and sweet, most woman would find him irresistible.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Funny, but when I read the spoilers for the first time after Monday's episode and found out that Ben was a possible F1, and then read some comments about him from posters, I couldn't help but think that the only reason people even liked him was because of spoilers. He's hardly gotten any face time, no dates or conversations with Ash, and yet people love him.... I just don't get that. He didn't even crack my top 10 list, let alone top 2!

ITA. He seems like a nice guy from his intro video and if he and Ashley end up together and they're happy, then I'll be happy she's in a loving relationship but I have no idea who this dude is or why people like him. I hope the show and he give me a reason next Monday though!

I too TA. Ben seems cute though I do wish he would wash his hair more. One of my unspoiled friends said something about Ashley letting go of all the "good looking" guys and keeping the long haired dudes. I was dying to laugh as one of those dudes could be the one she rides off into the sunset with.

On the other hand, there is something a little eerie about Ashley picking the look-alike to her dead boyfriend.

Not anymore disturbing than Brad attempting to complete the set by choosing his identical twin's wife's long lost identical twin.