Amongst many failvalues of reichwingers, believing in Social Darwinism for education is the lulziest

Sabotaging public education is a stated goal of the funders of the think tanks that feed the right wing public narrative. The consequences have been devastating. We need to start calling it what it is - treason.

Sabotaging public education is a stated goal of the funders of the think tanks that feed the right wing public narrative. The consequences have been devastating. We need to start calling it what it is - treason.

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What?

Fox News Viewership stands to gain bjillions. The dumber the people the bigger their audience. Why do you hate capitalism?

Sabotaging public education is a stated goal of the funders of the think tanks that feed the right wing public narrative. The consequences have been devastating. We need to start calling it what it is - treason.

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first of all it's not public education it's liberal government controlled education

Sabotaging public education is a stated goal of the funders of the think tanks that feed the right wing public narrative. The consequences have been devastating. We need to start calling it what it is - treason.

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first of all it's not public education it's liberal government controlled education

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Wrong...its government controlled education...I'll leave you to think about it for a moment

Wrong...its government controlled education...I'll leave you to think about it for a moment

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The basic difference between the left and the right is that the right is generally not politically motivated to go out and seek paradigm shifts until they start being impacted negatively while the left is perpetually motivated to seek power and control. You see a few examples in this by who comes straight out of school (sometimes uses a military stepping stone) and goes immediately on a political career path.

The point being is that your attempt at a point is wrong because the government representation and bureaucracies are highly skewed by the difference in the motivations and outcomes for who actively seeks out authority/power.

Anyway, in reply to the OP. I don't have a big problem with communities that want to setup some sort of pooled education system of their own volition. I have a MAJOR problem with it when government usurps community desires and when individual choices are obliterated.

Since the creation of the Dept. of Education, students' reading achievement scores have remained relatively flat, but math scores have risen modestly. While younger students have experienced some increases in test scores, older students' scores have generally stagnated showing what little progress was made with students in their younger years is lost.

SAT scores since the creation of the illegal Dept. of Education show that the system is dumbing down kids scores as reflected in the tests especially in Critical Reading ( which would explain the lack of ability to read or debate by some of our youger-Y left-leaning statistson this forum )

Despite the TRILLIONS spend by the Federal government in the illegal program one can see nationally and internationally that the Federal public school program is a failure.

And while the insane members ( as defined by Einstein ) of this forum will say we need to spend more ( despite the fact that we have been doing that for years and failing ) the sane position is to conclude that the Dept. of Education is a failure and should be scrapped and the education system returned back to the individual states ( per the 10th Amendment ) that was giving our kids a better education than the federal government has.

And while the insane members ( as defined by Einstein ) of this forum will say we need to spend more ( despite the fact that we have been doing that for years and failing ) the sane position is to conclude that the Dept. of Education is a failure and should be scrapped and the education system returned back to the individual states ( per the 10th Amendment ) that was giving our kids a better education than the federal government has.

Preventing children from achieving an equal educational footing is the most anti free market approach to a society possible. It's basically the approach you would take if you wanted to have a caste system, which is exactly what the Kochs and other mutlibuillionaires who have their fingers shoved deep into the Republican lizard brain want.

@IMHO Dude that gif in your sig is the best footage i have seen and it looks faker than ever. I say this because of the way it turns to look at camera, the movement of his upper body as it walks.. Not sure but it feels fake.. even though I wish it wasn't.

Sabotaging public education is a stated goal of the funders of the think tanks that feed the right wing public narrative. The consequences have been devastating. We need to start calling it what it is - treason.

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It's awful.. I mean, how could they? We only spend more than double (after inflation) what we spent 30 years ago per pupil.

Sabotaging public education is a stated goal of the funders of the think tanks that feed the right wing public narrative. The consequences have been devastating. We need to start calling it what it is - treason.

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It's awful.. I mean, how could they? We only spend more than double (after inflation) what we spent 30 years ago per pupil.

The NAEP is a standardized test given across the country for almost the last 40 years. If you are interested in the changing quality of education in this country, this is a gold mine of data you should be pulling from.

The problem is that these tests show a slow gradual improvement in education. Since this doesnt match up with dogma, it is thrown out. Or more likely, it doesnt make it onto the newsletters and the screamers are not even aware of it.

When you argument relies on ignoring the best source of data available, you dont actually have an argument. Youre just crying.

The basic difference between the left and the right is that the right is generally not politically motivated to go out and seek paradigm shifts until they start being impacted negatively while the left is perpetually motivated to seek power and control. You see a few examples in this by who comes straight out of school (sometimes uses a military stepping stone) and goes immediately on a political career path.

You run away and indulge in ad hominem any time anyone questions your data. We have learned there is no point in engaging you in a discussion becauase you never pay any attention to what anyone else says, even when they are pointing out you've misread your own charts completely.

You can't discuss anything with someone who isn't listening to you and won't admit they've made a mistake when they've made a mistake.

Education is one of the most important services the government provides and it is also something that is hard to get right. The argument over education should be about the quality of the output as opposed to the nonsense you tend to hear which is about teacher's unions and other BS.

Prove it or like I was telling Yuki, are you just going to post unsourced opinions, logical fallacies, and personal attacks?

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Where is your proof?

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The burden of proof lays upon those who accuse .. not the accused.

But are you going to deny the existent of private schools who must make a profit to stays in business?

Are you going to deny that those individuals w/o children or those who place their kids in private scools do not have to shell out money to the government or risk a lien on their property to pay for public schools?

And I have proven it by their existence ... but just as someone who brings someone to court must prove the claims their are accusing that person of .. so must you ..

But are you going to deny the existent of private schools who must make a profit to stays in business?

Are you going to deny that those individuals w/o children or those who place their kids in private scools do not have to shell out money to the government or risk a lien on their property to pay for public schools?

I still can't decide if BT is the dumbest poster in the history of the Outpost or an excellent troll. He does stuff it is hard to believe any person, no matter how dumb, could do and be serious about it. Not even Fisted Puma can match BT for sheer self-delusion.

Even Fisted Puma will admit when he misreads a graph. BT runs away like a pussy and pretends it never happens and when you point it out he just writes fake quotes and continues to pretend like it never happened.

Their presence does not prove that. That would be like saying a company with a market share of 5% and makes a profit can serve the entire market better than other providers simply due to the fact that they served the 5%.

The next time you offer up such a piece of crap "proof" I will feel obligated to just flame you.

I still can't decide if BT is the dumbest poster in the history of the Outpost or an excellent troll. He does stuff it is hard to believe any person, no matter how dumb, could do and be serious about it. Not even Fisted Puma can match BT for sheer self-delusion.

Even Fisted Puma will admit when he misreads a graph. BT runs away like a pussy and pretends it never happens and when you point it out he just writes fake quotes and continues to pretend like it never happened.