I tried but they don't have what I want anywhere in the region and cannot allocate it from Toyota (too late in the year- already switched over to 2018 he told me)... That is the one thing that really frustrates me about Toyota is their pushing everyone down the same rabbit hole when wanting to order a vehicle specifically with what I want that matters to me, but cannot b/c it is not in one of their pre-designed setups. I understand profit and economies of scale... but com'on guys give us a little individuality.

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False. There's no true orders anymore. You have to wait for an allocation and that's all you get. TBH DCLB OR with tech seems pretty simple. I was able to get an Inferno DCSB OR 6MT with black/orange interior and tech with a moonroof in a measly 15 week wait.

I can see someone dicking around with this safety shit, being involved in an accident, ambulance chasers get involved, insurance company says sorry, said person spends the rest of their life working for someone else.

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Exactly, will never happen.
And then someone with a lift forgets to turn off safety sense and cause a crash ? Would it pass inspection with a lift ? Airbags are needed for inspection.

The dealer I am working with to order a 2018 Tacoma told me that all Toyotas across the board will have TSS and with that lifts will affect the TSS features. He told me that his dealership will not be doing lifts any more, and they do a lot, and his thought was that shops would not be doing them either. So lifting is still of course doable, but it will lose the sensor functions and void warranty. We discussed if aftermarket shops would do it and he cautioned me that some might but it becomes a huge legal/financial liability if an accident were to happen and they were to be potentially found at fault. This is the GM of the dealership and is being helpful not trying to blow me off. Thoughts?

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I wonder if this will affect sales? If so, it may disappear in the 2019s, particularly if the Ranger doesn't have it. However, it seems that you could just move it down to the position it was in stock. I have no idea how that would work, but if lifting moves it too far up, then why couldn't you just move the "sensor" down? I have a 2017, but only lifted it 1", so it all is not problem for me.

I wonder if this will affect sales? If so, it may disappear in the 2019s, particularly if the Ranger doesn't have it. However, it seems that you could just move it down to the position it was in stock. I have no idea how that would work, but if lifting moves it too far up, then why couldn't you just move the "sensor" down? I have a 2017, but only lifted it 1", so it all is not problem for me.

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By 2022 99% of all manufacturers have agreed to install collision avoidance.

With Toyota saying it's wrong if someone causes a serious accident I wouldn't want to be that individual.

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The Tacoma is one of the most popular offroad vehicles on earth, and is one of the most popular to modify. It is surrounded by a massive following of enthusiasts. People are not going to stop lifting them no matter what.

In regards to anyone saying to just "move the sensor" it's not quite that simple. FWIW we have the Subaru version of this in our cars, and it's freaking sweet. The adaptive cruise control makes long highway drives much less tiring.

The dealer I am working with to order a 2018 Tacoma told me that all Toyotas across the board will have TSS and with that lifts will affect the TSS features.

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TSS works off sensors and a camera. These are set/put to certain angles from the manufacture, lifting the vehicle would make it difficult for the truck to see what it normally would see. An example, use your phone to take a photo, hold it straight up and down with an object in the bottom of the frame. Now lift it, the object wouldn’t be in frame any longer. Lifting the truck will not void warranty on TSS, refer to SEMA. It will however make TSS not work 100% and that is the dealer’s issue. They have to make sure everything works 100% when selling a truck, because if it doesn’t, they are liable.

The Tacoma is one of the most popular offroad vehicles on earth, and is one of the most popular to modify. It is surrounded by a massive following of enthusiasts. People are not going to stop lifting them no matter what.

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you are correct but it will stop many from buying IF they don't get it resolved for many do not want the risk if in accident to be at fault and sued. Yes some wont care until it happens then they lose everything. There are too many sales that will be lost due to this. I have an 18 due next week and now I am thinking of telling them until this changes I will pass on it now. Im trying to get more info. My dealer has lifted already an 18 tundra and sold it but maybe that was before they knew.

The Tacoma is one of the most popular offroad vehicles on earth, and is one of the most popular to modify. It is surrounded by a massive following of enthusiasts. People are not going to stop lifting them no matter what.

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It cracks me up with this “Oh, no!! Our TSS sensors won’t work!!

It’s now 2017 and EVERYONE driving a Tacoma to this point has done just fine without TSS sensors. If the sensors were vital, you would not have the option to turn them off.

you are correct but it will stop many from buying IF they don't get it resolved for many do not want the risk if in accident to be at fault and sued. Yes some wont care until it happens then they lose everything. There are too many sales that will be lost due to this. I have an 18 due next week and now I am thinking of telling them until this changes I will pass on it now. Im trying to get more info. My dealer has lifted already an 18 tundra and sold it but maybe that was before they knew.

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There will be a work-around, I wouldn't let it stop me from buying one.