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Season 5 Shitstorm Season underway - Jimmy is Rustled and EQG is canon
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Liki Weaks

Well the honeymoon is over and the Season 5 Shitstorms are popping up on the radar. Today's rustled jimmes come from Jim himself, who has engaged the rage cage of twitter head-on, and also from anons whojust got word that EQG is "canon" from a staffmember. Popcorn popped? Here we go.

Big Jim set out with 3 tweets, expressing how tired he is of the show being held to higher standards, citing "Breaking Bad" as an example. Perennial postmaster Murrison was quick to respond, citing Faust's "original vision".

The twitter feud is, in fact still in-progress. Concurrently, a separate tweet is causing some drama, in response to a common complaint about today's episode's "lack of books". Steph Mahoney, a layout manager and animator, tweeted this in response at 9:11.

This was retweeted by Big Jim, effectively canonizing Equestria Girls in the eyes of many fans. This has returned Equestria Girls to feud status.

Comments (106)

Anyone who thinks that the fandom is not the SOLE REASON that this show has continued is naive and was very likely not present during season 2. Hell, the show was even expected by the staff to be cut after the third season which is why they made such horribly rushed decisions. This fandom is the reason that the show staff are on hasbro payroll and any "entitlement" is WARRANTED.

To see a staff member be this ungrateful to the CUSTOMER is pathetic, childish, and unprofessional.

No, what's pathetic and childish is to whine about how a fucking children's show isn't for your grown ass.

"B-B-But Lauren Faust said-"

She's said it's also for parents, i.e. it was meant to be family programming, you autistic fuck. She never said retards who refused to grow up were the target audience.

Shit like this is why everyone hated bronies; You're all a bunch of mental defects that goddamn worship pastel cartoon horsies and completely ignore that this franchise has existed for motherfucking DECADES.

I thought this fucking brony shit was over with, but the very first comment here is a butthurt brony whining about how a fucking kid's show is for fucking kids, and deliberately taking something Faust said out of context to justify being a spoiled overgrown child.

Well hey hey hey, you can always go somewhere where discussion of EqG is strictly forbidden! Why, we've even started a board specifically for it here! http://8ch.net/dzg/index.html (the fact there are no posts proves nobody from /mlp/ actually likes that animu shit, now THAT really is just for little girls.)

I'm torn between these two arguments "just because it's a show for fittle girls, doesn't mean that it has to be dumbed down" and "bronies should stop taking a little girls show seriously, and should enjoyed as it is" so I'm gonna say that a fair share of criticism is necessary but not to the extent of self entitlement.

Also afaik someone from the staff already said that mess of stiff animation that is EQG is canon.

The answer is to not get offended by or fixate on the extreme voices. Take the heart of what they're saying and cut out the bullshit, then see what others are commenting about the subject matter--not the extremity of certain commenters.

wow big Jim you are a fucking idiot Lauren Faust created the show for all ages and all audiences though eqd being canon is somewhat accurate as Meghan McCarthy herself said in a tweet that it was but only to itself and not the TV series meaning things that happen in eqd will not effect the series at all

> The castle in the show has a design, which was used for both Rainbow Rocks and Season 5 now. > Here we are being told that the design used for Rainbow Rocks has a library, which we can safely assume is the same design used for S5.This does NOT in any way claim that the scene referenced is where the library came from... only that the place she was sorting the books for is present in S5.

Interestingly, too, Big Jim does feel they cater both to children AND adults. He stresses that the show should not cater to adults OVER children: https://twitter.com/TheBiggestJim/status/586948478837911552

So yeah, I do think some adult fans are a little over-entitled, and that's just silly.

Wait, wait, wait! Why is everybody complaining about people complaining? I am sure nobody from this website is complaining about EqG, Big Jim or some other stupid shit like that. You are preaching to the choir. But if establishing a circlejerk around your persona was your main objective - then by all means go ahead.

Letting people voice their opinions, no matter how retarded you might think they are, isn't an issue.If you think it is, that's a personal problem that you should look into.

The guy acts like he goes looking for shit to complain about. That's basically being a drama whore.Mebberson did the same thing a while back over literally two EQD comments that referenced FIW and she made a shitstorm over nothing.

But that's the comics crew and practically all of them are problematic aside from Heather Breckel. She gets how things work and is chill about it.

Jim meant to say, well, of course it's not going to be on the level of an adult show, because it's meant to cater for everyone. Murrison was blindly and condescendingly telling him something he already knew. I say blindly because Jim said it RIGHT IN THE TWEET. Oh lawdy.

It just came across as 'hurr it's for kids so it can be dumb' because of his poor wording.

That tweet about 'I'm tired of people complaining about it being "too predictable"' means he is sick of people complaining about how predictable the plot is to an adult, because they can't appreciate that kids will only understand so much complexity and it can only be so unpredictable.

It was nothing to do with defending plots that have been *overused* in the show, like keeping people away from a particular place. He was working with Lauren from the start so of course he'd share that same 'vision', and it's not too likely it would change so drastically as to disagree. People thought it was meant to defend overusing plots because they were expecting that to begin with.

I just find it hilarious that people who thought the roots of Golden Oaks being put in the throne room was disturbing, as opposed to letting it silently rot underground. It's a fucking tree, guys.

I'm guessing that these same people thought The Giving Tree was too edgy and disturbing as well. After all the old man uses it's dying mutilated corpse of a stump as a seat in the end. So dark, so disturbing.

Sure, it probably might've been better if the left over wood as made to make a picture frame or something, but otherwise I got the sentimentality, schmaltzy as it might be.

I expected better for it. Like, magical regrowing or some shit, or if even that isn't feasible in the magical fucking land of Equestria, then at least plant some new oak seeds in it's places. It's a goddamn Ponyville heritage, not just Twilight's fucking house for a year.

I've long since learned that, when dealing with Anons on the internet, it's usually the safer bet to take what they say with some leeway. For every fake letter from a therapist to the showrunners saying that Twicorn makes people clinically depressed by association, you just know that there's SOME fuckwit who is dead close to actually being serious with it. It's usually the safer bet to think that someone is being a dumbass than "joking" more times than not. Shit, this site is full of people making drama over the stupidest fucking things and some legit awful things like that asswipe music stealing asshole from the other story today.

As for the regrow the tree thing? Point, with magic there is little excuse. But I guess that Twilight just wanted to be the librarian so bad, she'll turn a wing of her castle into a replacement, making a new Golden Oaks redundant anyways. Not like it'd be the original tree anyways tho, so that's "heritage" for ya.

I think that when the people who make the show say they make it for fucking kids... the argument is pretty much over...? I mean, can you really disagree with that notion without coming off as a fucking child, yourself? Unless.... AHH, now I see the true meaning behind Big Jim's words.

I feel like this all started because someone complained they didn't like the newest episode. Sure there were no anime fights or dystopian communism societies this time around, but that doesn't mean it was bad. Can't everyone just quit whining and watch the ponyshow?

...I don't want to sound like a total fucking prick, but it's not just WHAT you said that makes you sound pathetic, but HOW you said it.

Because seriously: capitilzing each word, saying another director is the best because he "support" unicorn Twilight (whatever the hell that means. You mean he PREFERS original Twi?), butthurt still about Twicorn all this time later, AND bringing up Lauren and saying that her being friends with Wootie also automatically puts him higher above the others?

I won't use the typical response since I work with people who are on the Spectrum, but I suggest you take a few moments to reflect on yourself, or at least before you post. Seriously.

Jim. Take a look at Steven Universe. That show is geared towards it's target audience, little kids. Just like the show you're working on. And see how mature it is without always being mind-numbingly fun and saccharine to the point of being more like a parody of kid's cartoons. What's your excuse Jim? That kids are stupid? That they're incapable of understanding the 'big grown up' things?

If there's a reason why FiM is another carbon copy of every vanilla kid's show, it's this article.

My kids don't really get Steven Universe, or care for it because of it.

I don't know why you feel that kids are capable of understanding grown-up things. They're kids. I'm sick of the "kids are a lot smarter than you realize" shit some people spout. Other than my own kids, I see other kids on almost a daily basis. No, they're NOT capable of thinking as adults for the most part.

Hell, my eight-year old girl sometimes has to ask me what's going on in MLP, though more often it's because she was talking instead of listening, heh.

For you faggots whining about, "herp derp, kids can get more complex themes," go eat a dick, have some kids of your own, and then comment. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.

And there is a reason why you mostly hear the praise for the show from the Tumblr/Twitter/SJW crowd.

Don't get me wrong, I watch (and like) the show too, but it has a whole slew of its own problems other than "being dumbed down for a kid's audience", and isn't the perfect golden baby you and so many others imply it is.

Jim actually went on to say that FiM is not like SU or similar shows, it has a different style of being good. Especially since it's not trying to be a parody of kid's cartoons, but an actual kid's cartoon.

Because some people are still kicking and screaming about Twilight being a fucking Alicorn. They don't want to have to deal with the movies being a part of the show.

Hell, that's (one of the) reason(s) why some people call Meghan a liar who lies: because she said that the first EqG movie wouldn't affect the show's plot for season 4, but when Flash Sentry (the pony) showed up in a five second cameo dropping off Cadance for an episode, people flipped their shit.

Because there's always got to be something: Derpy being 'offensive to special needs people', Lauren leaving the show and Meghan stepping up, Cadance and Shining being a part of Twilight's life which somehow makes her backstory of never making friends on her own invalid, the invalidity of the 'Two Alicorns' Theory when Cadance (and Twilight) came about, Twicorn happening, Equestria Girls (the movie and the dolls), season 3 being short, former 'big name' reviewers like Chad Rocco and Digibro slowly descending into... whatever they are as they lose the magic in the show, the IDW comics and all its drama (decline in story quality especially with Cook's writing, Andersongate, Bobby Curnow being a dick in general, Whitley's misguided attempts at 'fixing' the unfortunate dragon implications but royally fucking that up with general blunders in the story otherwise present, etc), the news of an outright FIM movie, and so on ad infinitum.

I was a fan of DC superhero books way before this show started, but I'm constantly surprised that a show about fucking horses of all things can have such a toxic fandom to rival that kind of mess.

"Hell, that's (one of the) reason(s) why some people call Meghan a liar who lies: because she said that the first EqG movie wouldn't affect the show's plot for season 4, but when Flash Sentry (the pony) showed up in a five second cameo dropping off Cadance for an episode, people flipped their shit."

Why would they call her a liar for that? A cameo DOESN'T affect the plot. Personally, I'd love to see the mirror in the background in the castle sometime. No reason to make mention of it, just have it show up in the background. Or maybe have the book that communicates with Sunset's book show up on a table or something. Just a little background thing to show the connection without being overt about it.

Again, because the loud group of people who openly dispise the very thought of EqG and want their pony show 'pure' want to make sure that nothing connects them. Even the small cameo of Flash was enough to get very whiny people up in arms and declare Meghan a big fat liar who is trying to ruin Twilight's character with her wings and a pony she even barely managed to speak to in the damn movie itself.

Welcome to fandoms, internet style, where if things are not 'just so', people lose their shit and bitch.

I think Twilight would mention the possibility of going into a parallel universe with weird human-esque stick figures with skin paint on them and shit if it were canon. You know, I think that would be noteworthy.

Offscreen momentum. Characters usually do shit offscreen even when the camera isn't on them. It's not like the Cake babies were immacuately concieved and delivered in the five seconds they were introduced.

For all we know, everyone got sick of Twilight not shutting up about it for months after it happened. As the man once said, the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

Lauren Faust Rules! Meghan McCarthy SUCKS! Because She's a worst story editor, worst writer, and the worst Executive Producer in the history of MLP! And we want Flash Sentry a bad guy and should be in love with Trixie and be expelled from Canterlot High and he's a adopted nephew of Discord.

As soon as they stop at least putting some more mature content in there, which is arguably what made the show a giant hit, then all they're left with is the littlest pet shop. I'm sure it sells toys, but not like the autistic faggots buy pony merch. Licensed pony merch, not just the crap hasbro produces.

If big jim is fucking stupid enough to bite the hand that feeds him, then so be it. Wonder how many 8 year olds follow him on twitter?

No wonder Tara Strong is leaving after Season 5 because Season 5 will be the worst season ever like Season 4. Because Season 4 had the worst season opening episode and the worst season finale episode ever!

We want Meghan McCarthy and Big Fat Liar Jim Miller FIRED, and never work at Hasbro again! The Wings got to go and that eye-sores castle most be destroyed in season 5 and never to be seen in public again!

We want unicorn Twilight back! We want the Elements of Harmony back! We want the Golden Oak Library back! We want the friendship rainbow kingdom destroyed! And we want Discord back to a bad guy and be banished from Equestria or banished to Tararus! End the princess era Hasbro you jackass!