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Back to the original topic, I feel like a lot of people miss the nuanced difference between "pickup artists" and "scumbags who disrespect women"

Sure, there's a lot of overlap in those groups.

But there's a lot of "pickup artists" who DO respect women, who do bring joy and happiness into women's lives, even if they're not fitting into society's narrative of "falling in love & being monogamous"

So when people complain about "pickup artists" or "pickup community" ... i don't worry about it at all, because they're using the wrong term for what they're complaining about. But I still agree with their usual complaints; namely: guys who act like pickups are merely a scorecard, guys who don't care about women's feelings, guys who try to manipulate women instead of simply improving themselves.