peer to peer computing was not so new. I did my thesis for 5
years. There were already people who did that even before me.

Literature: massively parallel computing...
grid computing

it was grid computing using web services. web services are very new.
there are nice things about web services. in layman's terms, web
services makes it easy for computers to talk to each other. and this
technology wasn't around before. .net was among the first
implementations of web services that was accessible to
programmers. nobody at that point had done grid computing using web
services. as far as we know, we were the first.

intel actually had - before us - they had this idea of using grid
computing with web services, but their idea was different. it was
more of peer-to-peer computing, and it was specific. they could only
do one application. we saw their program, but we had better ideas.

bayanihan computing is the more evolved project compared to the Intel
project or the SETI? Don't quote it that way, because each project
has its pluses and minuses.

Basically, what we thought of was this idea of using web services to
do grid computing. And basically what grid computing is it allows
computers to share resources. Say we have 100 computers in our
labs. We can pool together their resources and we can make this
available to scientists who want that computing power.

how much power can it produce? potentially a lot, but we haven't
tested it on a large scale project.

You probably have a timeline.. If ever you want other people to

participate, that is. The eventual program is to come up with a
commercial application ba?

Our immediate plan is to test it out within the university. We'll
see if the other science departments want to tap the power of our
labs. We'd also like to invite those with noncommercial
applications - they can contact us and we'll make arrangements with
them.

What do you mean non-commercial?

Non-commercial meaning they're not making money out of it. If it's
for research, then they could contact us and we could arrange
it. We're willing to work with them.

How would the intellectual property issue be divided among them?

We haven't gotten to the point of commercializing it yet.

Michael Rowling came over and he was telling us the usual thing

about open source having a place in the academic community, but
we're moving to an economy where intellectual property...
Great potential to become commercial.

Copyright. Automatic naman yung copyright. If you write your own
code, then you own the copyright to it.

Establishing ownership for this...

We're the only ones who have it. Even Microsoft doesn't own it.

Division of property rights

Still needs to be determined. We're not at the point of
commercialization, so in that sense, it doesn't matter right now.
Definitely we will need to determine it - of course it will be
determined fairly - but there's a lot more work to be done before
we commercialize.

Plans of action. Timeline.

First we want to test it out within the university. "Any specific
area?" One of the advantages of our system compared to other
systems is that it's generic. SETI, you can only do SETI. Ours is
generic. You can actually run different programs on it. "Robust?"
Yes, it's flexible. You can run different applications. "Madali
lang?" We have a programming interface for it. As long as you
follow the programming interface, you can run applications.

Our first goal is to get the programming interface usable - it's
already usable by other people, but we have to package it and make
it easy to use and test it out. I don't know what specific
application speople might have for it, but for example, the
M.O. has simulations, and the economic department might have
simulations...

First step. Get it usable so that other people in Ateneo can use
it. At the same time, we can also offer it to other universities
and non-commerical institutions.

Then when we commercialize it.. Commercial applications - of course,
we would want to get a fair share of that. If they make a lot of
money, we would want to get compensated, but that's still to be
determined.

Microsoft just wants to sell Microsoft software. At this point,
unless Microsoft offers us millions of dollars, I'm not going to
sell this to Microsoft.

We are open to commercialization but we're still not at that point
yet.

"graduated from economics at UP, wants to write about Filipino-made
software..."

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