As a Knicks fan I just don’t see what R. Westbrook brings to NY other than some entertainment.

Being relevant enough to be a playoff team and be in Cap hell just isn’t worth it.

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He would be a Melo situation part 2 only without the cap space to add an amare stoudemire. Basically it would rip, figure 4-5 (at least) good assets out of our hands and screw the rebuild. Fwiw, i do think Westbrook is a winner but i do not think he will age well. When the athleticism goes, so goes he because hes not a perimeter threat at under 30% from 3. He will be an effective piece for as long as he has the quick twitch athleticism thats made him effective the last decade.

At this point, just embrace the rebuild and rebuild the culture in spite of the dummy who owns the team

He would be a Melo situation part 2 only without the cap space to add an amare stoudemire. Basically it would rip, figure 4-5 (at least) good assets out of our hands and screw the rebuild. Fwiw, i do think Westbrook is a winner but i do not think he will age well. When the athleticism goes, so goes he because hes not a perimeter threat at under 30% from 3. He will be an effective piece for as long as he has the quick twitch athleticism thats made him effective the last decade.

At this point, just embrace the rebuild and rebuild the culture in spite of the dummy who owns the team

Biggest issue with all the new generation guards, and this is probably true about almost every star guard in the NBA since after Wade was drafted... none of them have a back to the basket game... theey all rely on athleticism or ridiculous shooting...

That was the blessing of Wade having Shaq on his side, he was able to learn from one of the best ever at the post..

Westbrook is always attacking the basket and his knee or ankle will pay for it if he doesnt adjust soon.. ive said it many times before Rose needs to develop other skills he will end up hurt playing the way he does, and then he did..

Much like the other Martin-coached players the Heat has taken a chance on, Silva is known for his defense. He was the SEC’s Co-Defensive Player of the Year as a junior in 2017-18 and was voted onto the SEC’s All-Defensive team in each of his final two seasons at South Carolina.

Silva, who turns 23 on Sept. 19, averaged 15.2 points, 7.6 rebounds and 1.9 blocks as a senior last season. He finished his South Carolina career with 1,509 career points, which ranks 10th in program history. He also ranks sixth in rebounds (876), third in free throws made (577) and sixth in blocked shots (186).

“I like to play defense. But I’m a both-ends-of-the-court player,” Silva said. “I can make something happen by rebounding and putting it back, by blocking shots and helping my teammates on defense.”

Even though Silva knew going undrafted was a possibility, he was still disappointed when his name wasn’t called in last month’s two-round draft.

“Where I come from, there’s only like one player that’s been to the league,” said Silva, who is from Gabon in Central Africa and began living in the United States as a 16-year-old. “For me to be drafted and see my whole country watching the draft and seeing my name called was a really big deal for me.”

But Silva feels like he’s found the next best thing in finding a summer home with the Heat.

“The culture and system,” Silva said. “When I came here and I started practicing, I felt like I was in South Carolina again because the principles are the same, the culture is the same, the way the coaches hold you accountable is the same. I feel like back home. When I had my workout, where I’m from is near the ocean, so I felt like it was being back home again.”

To find a longer-term home in Miami, the most realistic opportunity is as a two-way contract player because of the Heat’s salary-cap and roster situation.

“He’s bringing incredible amount of energy and toughness, and I love how he goes above the rim and gets rebounds with two hands,” Glass said. “That’s a unique skill set.”

This is Per 36 minutes data. The final column is the +/- on a Per 36 minutes basis.

Chris Silva really stands out, adding 17 Points, 11 Rebounds (including 3 Offensive Rebounds), 3 Assists, 1 Steals, and 2 Blocks per 36 minutes, while also being +30. Silva gets to the line for 6.5 free throws per 36 minutes, where he's making 86% of his free throws, and he's shooting 67% from two. He's been one of the starting five with the other four standouts Kendrick Nunn, Tyler Herro, Duncan Robinson, and Yante Maten. That lineup has been outstanding.

Kendrick Nunn, Duncan Robinson, Yante Maten, and Tyler Herro have been outstanding. They all stand out in their own way.

Kendrick Nunn averages 26 Points, 5 Rebounds, 5.5 Assists, and 2 Steals per 36 minutes, with 40% three point shooting, and 52% on twos. He gets to the charity stripe for 5.5 freebies per 36 minutes.

Tyler Herro averages 25 Points, 5.5 Rebounds, 5 Assists, and 2 Steals per 36 minutes. He's only shooting 32% from three, and 45% from two, though. His Usage is pretty high, and that's why he gets the points he does. But he's been doing a good job getting to the line at 5 free throw attempts per 36 minutes, and he's only got 4 personal fouls in 111 minutes.

Yante Maten's Usage does not seem as high as those three, and yet he still gets 18.5 Points, 9 Rebounds (including 3 Offensive Rebounds), 1 Assist, 1.5 Steals, and 1.5 Blocks per 36 minutes. His three point shot has not fallen as he's only 1 of 7 there, but the key to his contribution thus far is he's shooting nearly 9 free throws per 36 minutes.

Nick Mayo's 57% three point shooting (4 of 7) also stands out. He's been a good pure point scorer thus far. He doesn't have a very good feel for the movements in the offense right now. You can see him being a beat slow in his off-ball movements, and you can definitely see lots of hesitation when he gets the ball in his hands. He also doesn't have a natural feel for getting rebounds, despite his size. However, the size clearly does count for something in that regard as he's getting about 7 Rebounds per 36 minutes and in particular gets about 3 Offensive Rebounds per 36 minutes. His defense needs work but he's clearly done some work in the Steals department.

I'm actually a bit shocked how much Nick Weiler-Babb has dropped off the map in Las Vegas Summer League from a pure Usage standpoint. He looks compelling when he is getting Usage. He drives to the rim and finishes really well, and he's got a nice, balanced form when he pulls up for jumpers. He's also shooting 42% from three. But his numbers here look abysmal because the Usage is so low, particularly in his last two games in Vegas.

I like how knicks fans are so numb and tired of the BS that I post something talking **** about their team and they like it lmao

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Facts is facts. 1 star isn’t what we need, especially trading for one star that would cost a ton of assets. If you told me we were signing say Kawhi a month ago but the only way he was coming was if we got Westbrook, I’d be ok with it. But that’s not the scenario. And if we are being honest OkC was a better team last year then NYK as presently constructed so the ceiling would be pretty low for NYK to just have Westbrook and nothing else.

I'm a little vexed that Tyler Herro is shooting only 32% on threes in the Summer League, on high volume, considering this above all else is what he's supposed to be. At least in 2019-20, this is what he's supposed to be.

Can't be J.J. Redick if you're not shooting like J.J. Redick. I'm as intrigued with the total package, with his quick release, aggressiveness, ability to sink deep baskets, and get on a hot streak, as anybody. But the shots DO need to fall. You can't forget that part of it because it's...uhh...kind of important.

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He's not shooting catch and shoot open threes like JJ Redick does. He's running the offense, and the bulk of his threes are in transition, or off the dribble, often with a guy in front of him. I watch his three point shooting in the summer league, and am incredibly encouraged by it. His percentage doesn't really worry me at all.

He's not shooting catch and shoot open threes like JJ Redick does. He's running the offense, and the bulk of his threes are in transition, or off the dribble, often with a guy in front of him. I watch his three point shooting in the summer league, and am incredibly encouraged by it. His percentage doesn't really worry me at all.

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And hes 19, adjusting to the nba 3 as opposed to college.

I just had the same debate with a friend regarding RJ Barrett who is 7/33 thru the 1st 2 summer league games. This is what summer league is for...identifying areas that need improvement and to give a chance to work on it vs live competition. Getting used to the NBA 3 and NBA competition even if its just vs other draft picks. Last year at this time Knox was all the rage. He had a good. Not great rookie year while Mitchell Robinson stole the headlines. Now Iggy Brazdeikis is stealing the headlines as a 2nd round pick but i still cant bring myself to worry about RJ in part because i know shooting is usually the last part of a players game to develop at the nba level

I just had the same debate with a friend regarding RJ Barrett who is 7/33 thru the 1st 2 summer league games. This is what summer league is for...identifying areas that need improvement and to give a chance to work on it vs live competition. Getting used to the NBA 3 and NBA competition even if its just vs other draft picks. Last year at this time Knox was all the rage. He had a good. Not great rookie year while Mitchell Robinson stole the headlines. Now Iggy Brazdeikis is stealing the headlines as a 2nd round pick but i still cant bring myself to worry about RJ in part because i know shooting is usually the last part of a players game to develop at the nba level

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Yeah, it’s easy to take more than you should from the Summer League, IMO. They’re playing against better competition than they did in college, but ultimately it’s a coaching tool for the top players, not a showcase, and every year guys perform great only to disappear when their actual NBA careers start. I remember when Rose and Beasley came out and Beasley was killing the summer league and Rose was struggling, and everyone was saying the Bulls blew it. I think there are some things you can take from it, but for the most part, it’s grain of salt stuff for me.

So when it's a bad thing like your three point specialist shooting 14 for 44 from three against mostly G-League competition, well that's just a Summer League thing.

But when it's a good thing, like the same guy averaging 6 rebounds and 5 assists per 36 minutes, shooting well from mid-range, it's, oh wow our 1st round pick is dominating all these other big names, why the hell would we give him up for an 8-time All Star?

So when it's a bad thing like your three point specialist shooting 14 for 44 from three against mostly G-League competition, well that's just a Summer League thing.

But when it's a good thing, like the same guy averaging 6 rebounds and 5 assists per 36 minutes, shooting well from mid-range, it's, oh wow our 1st round pick is dominating all these other big names, why the hell would we give him up for an 8-time All Star?

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For me? No. I look at little things like showing more ability to handle and pass than I thought, and being able to hit pull up threes with a guy in your face as a positive, but not anything to get too excited about. I don't get too up or down about anything that happens in summer league, though, because year in and year out it proves to be fool's gold. It's like the NFL preseason (although maybe more extreme). Sometimes good/bad play translates, and sometimes it doesn't mean anything. Because of that, I'm not going to buy into any of it too much.

Apparently Marcus Morris is renegging on his deal with the spurs for 2/20 and will be signing with the knicks. The knicks are reworking a contract with Reggie Bullock for some reason who never signed his 2yr/21m deal. Its apparently been discovered Bullock had an issue, possibly health related.

Apparently Marcus Morris is renegging on his deal with the spurs for 2/20 and will be signing with the knicks. The knicks are reworking a contract with Reggie Bullock for some reason who never signed his 2yr/21m deal. Its apparently been discovered Bullock had an issue, possibly health related.

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At first glance, I want to laugh at this and make some kind of comment like "how many slightly above average 4s are they going to collect?", but honestly, they'll probably be able to trade these guys for assets at some point because they're all on short deals. It's kind of funny that the Heat are one of the teams best positioned to trade for Wes strictly financially because of their abundance of these kinds of contracts currently.

At first glance, I want to laugh at this and make some kind of comment like "how many slightly above average 4s are they going to collect?", but honestly, they'll probably be able to trade these guys for assets at some point because they're all on short deals. It's kind of funny that the Heat are one of the teams best positioned to trade for Wes strictly financially because of their abundance of these kinds of contracts currently.

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Well Portis sucks defensively so he wont play much for Fiz and his offense is pretty much dependent on put backs and dunks. So thats just a colassal waste imo. Randle at least can play offense and Gibson is the enforcer we frankly have needed. Morris is more of a tweener but at least he can score. Hes better then crappy Portis

I liked Lonnie last year, too. He reminded me of some of the guys I liked for the Heat this year. Inconsistent college career, but got better as the year went on, and has all the tools you want. I think he went to the right team as well. The Spurs will develop him.

I liked Lonnie last year, too. He reminded me of some of the guys I liked for the Heat this year. Inconsistent college career, but got better as the year went on, and has all the tools you want. I think he went to the right team as well. The Spurs will develop him.

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I remember you liking him too.

The spurs drafting him confirmed my suspicions that he will be a baller.

Yeah, Lonnie looks like he's ready. I don't know where the Spurs will fit him in because they already have Dejounte, White, and Mills at the point.

The Rockets stole Clemons this year as an undrafted player. He had another strong game last night. The kid is taking almost 10 threes per game and is making 52% of them. Im very close to jumping on the bandwagon for him to skip GLeague & just sign on with the Rockets. He's a walking bucket, lol.

I am pretty disgusted that our big fella, Hartenstein, got injured last night. He was averaging 21 ppg and 10 rbs in summer league before he got hurt last night. The kid averaged 24 ppg and 14 rpg in the GLeague playoffs, and won finals mvp. He is the the perfect backup to Capela. Hope this injury isn't serious.