Quote from Giladis: “Quote from Henrypmiller: “Similarly If one of our strengths is "flying circus" which i think is supposed to be one of our "play styles", ” Flying circus is not an indtended HE playstyle. The ones that are currently on the table are > Infantry, Cavalry and Mixed Arms. ” But gunline and counter charge is most optimal? Sorry for giving you a hard time about this

Quote from Aegon: “Quote from Fnarrr: “Are you saying eagles aren't competitive? Or just 2+ eagles? And I think its pretty army defining that HbE have no monstrous units of either variety other than as a character mount. ” And I thought that it was pretty army defining that Dwarfs are slow and standard-sized Infantry based, with no fast moving units, but very good long range shooting options. Then I saw they can triple march, have 16" (march) flying copters and can have Vanguard on different uni…

Quote from Teowulff: “Quote from Henrypmiller: “To be honest queens guard could easily be rolled into archers as an upgrade without much hassle. "upgrade to moonlight arrows for x points. done. One less unit. Could even make them a seaguard unit as well by giving them an option of a spear and shield. Then you have reduced the book by 2 units, made it simple. You could even give the seaguard the moonlight arrows as well. Would be pretty cool and give them a role. Actually decent shooting and a bi…

Quote from Fnarrr: “Its almost like the WDG have more design space in certain areas because they have zero things in others. Such mystery. ” Take out some shooting and give us res 7 dragons and id be happy. To be honest queens guard could easily be rolled into archers as an upgrade without much hassle. "upgrade to moonlight arrows for x points. done. One less unit. Could even make them a seaguard unit as well by giving them an option of a spear and shield. Then you have reduced the book by 2 uni…

So their dragon Can have res 7. This on a smaller base than ours... i mean Cmon. The problem here is communication. We were told that it was due to RPS matchups that our AD was smacked with the nerf bat. This surely polarises the RPS even further!? I would really like the HBE to be able to field the Best dragons. - This should be an army strength!

Quote from Wesser: “Quote from CariadocThorne: “Quote from Wesser: “I don't understand that sentence, but I really wish I did, because I never understood why SE ever had Divination at all since the mechanics of it very strongly makes you think of Saruman/Gandalf and classical bearded, pointy-hatted wizards in general. How "Scrying", "Know thy enemy" and the magic missiles is supposed to fit the capricious/angry and/or stoic/indignant nature of treespirits is an explanation we all want ” Divinati…

Quote from Giladis: “Quote from Henrypmiller: “Maybe just make witchcraft competative? ” A full Witchcraft Path is competitive. VC and DL make good use out of it as do DE. ” It would seem therefore that having two half-paths is very imbalanced comapred to other armies choices then? And not really worth any [/b]"slots" for magic paths?

Quote from Giladis: “Quote from Wesser: “As said before the need for Witchcraft is mostly fluff-related. From a competitive POV access to Divination and it's magic missiles is way more desirable than the current situational Witchcraft ” See here is the question RT battled with. Access to Witchcraft was packaged as a flavour thing and thus needs not be competitive. But once it is provided calls to make it competitive is made which creates an issue because the access was allowed on flavour grounds…

Quote from Borjnfer Wraith: “Quote from Henrypmiller: “Quote from PadForce: “Quote from Wesser: “Maybe with a more a clear design goal aimed against enemy characters and less against blending could see the item shine? ” like maybe having divine attacks?Not aiming specifically at you:More in general if HBEs are not allowed to have characters that buff units and are not allowed to have characters that kill stuff then what the F are they supposed to be used for. The whole point of the weapon in the…

Quote from CariadocThorne: “The processes can be very frustrating, but we are making progress. A lot more lists seem to be coming up which don't look like they are intended to play hard avoidance. We do have a problem with our combat characters, but we are gradually addressing these bit-by-bit, some of the changes to items etc in the next patch will help at least. ” Nice to hear. However I feel that looking at many of the lists from recent tournaments , 2x pathfnder chieftain, 2x3 kesterels and …

Quote from PadForce: “Quote from Wesser: “Maybe with a more a clear design goal aimed against enemy characters and less against blending could see the item shine? ” like maybe having divine attacks? Not aiming specifically at you: More in general if HBEs are not allowed to have characters that buff units and are not allowed to have characters that kill stuff then what the F are they supposed to be used for. The whole point of the weapon in the first place was to make HBE foot characters more tha…

You also have probably the most reliable shooting phase in the game to take of wounds before h reahces you, should he want the fight. If he is taking the small stuff then you have more time to shoot the demon. if he engages the blocks then you can pin him in place for a decent counter charge with your combat characters.

Assuming your spear guy is sat in a block of something. You have a static of 4. Whatever character Will be Challenged out By the spear weilding Prince. At defensive 9 and 1+, 4++ you are pretty safe from most things, even S6 Stomps. The scourge is one of the ONLY characters in the game that actually hits the Prince on a 3+. With 7 S7 attacks (eternal sword) and hatred he averages about 2 wounds to the Prince. 14% - 0 wounds 32% - 1 wound 31% - 2 wounds 17% - 3 wounds 6% - 4 wounds You strike at …

I disagree. There are some competative HBE lists for sure! There is a shooting list which in my meta is doing very Well. Ancient dragon is also okay But matchup dependant and therefore more risky in singles. I also Think a mixed arms list with flane wardens is always going to be strong. While i have myself moved away from HBE in the last few weeks, i still Think There are good lists. The nerf to the hereditary spell is bad But you dont NEED to take it. Ryma banner was a kick in the teeth to fun …