stop paying bands studio time (nobody's paying you when you're thinking about the best ways of selling the record you're going to put out while you take a liberating 10-minute dump at your boring job), etc...

You're talking so much shit, that I just can't reply to it all. But I'll just keep to one point that I find the most stupid: The wrong analogy above.
Paying for the bands "studiotime" is not the same as paying someone to take a dump. When you pay the studiobill your paying the cost of the studio and engineer. The band doesn't get anything for the time they put in it. Not in the studio, and not while writing the music or recording it.

The studiobill is from guys - who unlike the band - will not work for free. And it is as much a real cost of making an album as the pressing.

And of course you can make a better profit if you leave the bands to take the loss. That should be apparent to everyone.

Also I have another thing to add to your great ideas of how to make a profit:
Just don't pay the bill from the printer. Now it's very easy to sell the records with profit!

I know, but the discussion is about the money the label "loses", and I assume that 1/ S_Slaughter isn't dumb enough to pay for customers' shipping costs himself. 2/ that he talked about all the shipping costs from the pressing/printing plants to his place, etc... which indeed can get expensive.

When I did the Wodens' vinyl I paid for studio costs for the band for the bonus track. I see it as only fair as you cannot expect them to work for free. They also received a cut of the vinyls without charge.

stop paying bands studio time (nobody's paying you when you're thinking about the best ways of selling the record you're going to put out while you take a liberating 10-minute dump at your boring job), etc...

You're talking so much shit, that I just can't reply to it all. But I'll just keep to one point that I find the most stupid: The wrong analogy above.
Paying for the bands "studiotime" is not the same as paying someone to take a dump. When you pay the studiobill your paying the cost of the studio and engineer. The band doesn't get anything for the time they put in it. Not in the studio, and not while writing the music or recording it.

The studiobill is from guys - who unlike the band - will not work for free. And it is as much a real cost of making an album as the pressing.

And of course you can make a better profit if you leave the bands to take the loss. That should be apparent to everyone.

Also I have another thing to add to your great ideas of how to make a profit:
Just don't pay the bill from the printer. Now it's very easy to sell the records with profit!

"Printing costs" as in printing the covers, inserts and whatnot go into the "pressing costs." And either your boss is cool and will let you use his printing machine for free to print your flyers, or you can print a few everyday without people noticing it. This is what I meant.

Werewolf wrote:

Haunt In The Dark wrote:

stop paying bands studio time

Haunt In The Dark wrote:

Royalties? Fuck that shit too.

If you want royalties, go make a musician career in some more easy-listening/easy-selling scenes and don't play nekrokvltpanzergoatgrimfrostfucking trve black metal. Being in such kind of band is not a job, and if you think it is, the ghost of Euronymous will pull a Varg on you sooner or later.

Well, I couldn't care less about how much you or how much the current owner of Apple earns. But I guess you weren't taught to look at your own dish, so nevermind..._________________Infernal Rock N' Roll: WWW.INFERNALROCKNROLL.BANDCAMP.COM

Weird, I expected you to be proud of your achievements, considering the fact that you're trying to teach everyone how to run their labels "properly"..._________________Infernal Rock N' Roll: WWW.INFERNALROCKNROLL.BANDCAMP.COM

Well, I couldn't care less about how much you or how much the current owner of Apple earns. But I guess you weren't taught to look into your own plate, so nevermind...

Chill out Aharon. I was asking that out of mere curiosity, I've never run a label nor am I ever planning to and I honestly have no idea what kind of $$$ there might be into metal these days._________________Permabanned