The downside of the whole process is if someone who generally updates trail conditions is not willing to go ride (and possibly damage the trail) then there is no current information on the trail conditions.

Doudy and Springbrook are both OK. Only one major bog on the first hill when you turn right onto Springbrook. Would suggest riding clockwise to the top, then come back down that way, or walk your bike through the bog. Flatiron Vista is dry as well as high plains.

That's weird...

I rode about 1/4 mile (just past the gate) up Doudy this afternoon and turned around due to consecutive sloppy sections. Didn't make it to Springbrook as I didn't want to add more huge ruts to the trail or have to wash my bike.

-Walt

Originally Posted by brokefork

Doudy and Springbrook are both OK. Only one major bog on the first hill when you turn right onto Springbrook. Would suggest riding clockwise to the top, then come back down that way, or walk your bike through the bog. Flatiron Vista is dry as well as high plains.

I rode about 1/4 mile (just past the gate) up Doudy this afternoon and turned around due to consecutive sloppy sections. Didn't make it to Springbrook as I didn't want to add more huge ruts to the trail or have to wash my bike.

-Walt

Maybe the snow melted more, I didn't have any trouble on Doudy, just a little stretch before the turn and then a little ice at the bridge. Springbrook clockwise had a couple stretches of softness and then a little snowbank on the north face. The tree section was dry except a short stretch of melting ice at the top. I barely had any mud on my tires when I finished. Sorry about your experience, must have been a lot warmer or something when you went. The section from the meadow down to the connector had several snowfields and the bog at the bottom, that's why I recommended not going that way.

I rode about 1/4 mile (just past the gate) up Doudy this afternoon and turned around due to consecutive sloppy sections. Didn't make it to Springbrook as I didn't want to add more huge ruts to the trail or have to wash my bike.

-Walt

Good call.

It's interesting how different the perspectives are on what is "good enough."

Every spring, I ride trails where I can see people put huge ruts in the trails or skirted way around. The good news is that it eventually heals on most of the Boulder stuff.

Yup

I don't mind so much when people ride through the mud. It's ugly, but everything smooths back out in the spring. I just don't like to trash my drivetrain in that godawful clay. So my personal standard for "too muddy" is probably a bit stricter than most.

Don't get me started on the people who ride off the trail. Coal Seam and the bottom section of Doudy are quickly becoming completely straight 10' wide paths thanks to people who can't manage it. I'd like to see some Heil-style boulder additions to stop that sort of thing... but then again, as folks here have said before, gaper trails = gaper behavior. Maybe serving as a sacrifice zone is all we can really expect from some of these close to town trails.

-Walt

Originally Posted by lidarman

Good call.

It's interesting how different the perspectives are on what is "good enough."

Every spring, I ride trails where I can see people put huge ruts in the trails or skirted way around. The good news is that it eventually heals on most of the Boulder stuff.

I don't mind so much when people ride through the mud. It's ugly, but everything smooths back out in the spring. I just don't like to trash my drivetrain in that godawful clay. So my personal standard for "too muddy" is probably a bit stricter than most.

Don't get me started on the people who ride off the trail. Coal Seam and the bottom section of Doudy are quickly becoming completely straight 10' wide paths thanks to people who can't manage it. I'd like to see some Heil-style boulder additions to stop that sort of thing... but then again, as folks here have said before, gaper trails = gaper behavior. Maybe serving as a sacrifice zone is all we can really expect from some of these close to town trails.

-Walt

I think I explained that when I rode those trails I barely had any mud on my tires, let alone made any ruts. I don't ride off trail, if it looks like I might damage the trail I don't ride it. OK? If you are the trail police, you need to look for another culprit.

What?

I don't think I accused you of anything.

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-W

Originally Posted by brokefork

I think I explained that when I rode those trails I barely had any mud on my tires, let alone made any ruts. I don't ride off trail, if it looks like I might damage the trail I don't ride it. OK? If you are the trail police, you need to look for another culprit.

Rode Cowdrey, community ditch, plateau, high plains, coalton, new trail, singletree back to the car. I guess this is the dirty bismark. Everything is pretty good with a few mud, soft spots that are rideable. High plains had the usual snow at the second bridge and a large snowdrift at the last corner (just pick up your bike and walk over the snowbank). Wind seemed like 60 mph steady with higher gusts, but maybe I was just getting tired. Blew me off the trail 3 times, got some air at least. Runners I met said doudy had a little mud, looked like still snow up in the trees at flatiron, but I didn't go that way. The wind was terrible!. Had a few mud specks on my bike when finished, if that helps. Oh yeah, in case you all forgot, ride through the mud, not around it.