Chris Matthews On Healthcare Rampage

Oh sure he is an angry spittle-flecked chicken and all, but this doesn’t mean Chris Matthews is always wrong, for example this morning when he yelled at Joe and Mika for being pussyfooting sellouts on the healthcare issue. Joe’s all, “But I am concerned about costs,” and Chris does not actually filibuster that much (!), just keeps saying “Well do you want working class people to have healthcare or not?” and Mika is just so ANGRY that nobody will let her speak. (Which it’s true is pretty goddamn rude.) [Morning Joe]

I saw this while making coffee. I’m with Joe and Mika on this one- everyone wants affordable healthcare, but it’s okay to investigate the national pricing model a little bit, especially given all the money we’ve already thrown into this whirling national shitstorm. Matthews was being a gigantic douche on this.

Min

Even a blind hog finds an acorn, every once in a while.

magic titty

[re=346354]InsidiousTuna[/re]: That’s fine. But we can all agree that what is currently in place as the health care system in this country ain’t good enough. So conversations about the cost seem secondary to conversations on what we’re doing to improve it.

And … all three of those marauding teevee clowns suck so who cares what they think.

liquiddaddy

He was merely reminding us what a tool the Scar is.

SayItWithWookies

Why is it that the people who are all “Wah wah wah, I’m concerned about the price” are the most virulently opposed to the public option? Oh yeah — because they’re full of shit. Fuck them.

Udargo

Do they EVER let Mika speak on that show? I mean, I’ve never watched it, but I’ve seen the clips on the internet, and all she ever does is make faces from the edge of the frame and say things like, “but..” and “Can I just say someth…” and “Ok, fuck you all.”

I don’t think Joe Scarbarrow can hear her over the sound of how awesome he thinks he is.

InsidiousTuna

[re=346361]magic titty[/re]: But no one on the show was saying that healthcare shouldn’t be improved, just Matthews blathering on about passing it today and stopping just short of accusing them of slobbering on Musselini’s dick for wanting to do something thoughtfully.

Essentially, Matthews was acting like it was his show, not someone else’s. Douchey.

Internally valid

Wait, if you ask people whether they’re concerned about negative consequences, they say, yes, those negative consequences would be concerning? Maybe Nate “poll-stroker” Silver could have predicted that, but not I.

Rukasu

Man they really are whoring it up with this Starbucks sponsorship, eh?

Rukasu

I think Suze Orman dressed Mika this morning…

You are DENIED!

jetjaguar

haha, shutup Mika, nobody likes you

Internally valid

[re=346385]InsidiousTuna[/re]: Problem is, Matthews isn’t arguing with Scarborough pretending to be legitimately concerned, but working on a solution. He’s arguing with the official republican position of “fuck socialism, government is bad.”

freakishlystrong

Man, Mika is BibleSpice to Douchebourgh’s Walnuts!…

InsidiousTuna

[re=346407]Internally valid[/re]: Still, Matthews comes off as the douchenozzle here.

No surprise, really.

bitchincamaro

Actual investigative journalism, in an easy to read format. No punditry, pandering, or sound bites, and no spit shields needed.

I dunno, watching Tweety yell at Scar: not for the feint-hearted. Douchebags all. I’m all for figuring out the munies first; but Scar & Mika would rather run over teh poors, rather than see those lucky duckies get the same kind of health care they do. plus not having an adequate health coverage sys ends up coming outta middle class wallets (psst: someone is paying for all that ER care, and it ain’t the richy-riches). Everyone needs to take a get real breath.

magic titty

[re=346385]InsidiousTuna[/re]: Fair enough. Why do people watch these shows again?

[re=346421]magic titty[/re]: Because they’re linked to us by Wonkette? I never watch them otherwise. Who fucking cares what drama queen talking heads think?

And, as always, Youtubo delendum est! even though this is a MSNBC feed. Still.

June Cleaver 2.0

[re=346373]liquiddaddy[/re]: “He was merely reminding us what a tool the Scar is.”

Absolutely. Usually they all get on my nerves, especially the “stunningly superficial” Mika and Joe, but Matthews was unequivocal and right, for a change. He just might win a senate race with an attitude like that.

Also, isn’t there a dead girl waiting at the end of Joe’s book tour and entrance to the senate races? I get the feeling the netroots are just waiting to unfurl her out of a rug at the feet of Scarborough if he even thinks about running for something.

[re=346381]SayItWithWookies[/re]: I wouldn’t say it that way, but my sentiments exactly.

Jenny Sanford

any lawyers in the house? I want to know what the consequences of advocating that Mika be put to rest will be.

June 25 will go down in history as the day i fell in love with Tweety.

InsidiousTuna

[re=346459]InsidiousTuna[/re]: I suppose that’s what the Tivo’s for.

June Cleaver 2.0

[re=346385]InsidiousTuna[/re]: I hope you don’t believe that Mika and Joe wanted to do something thoughtfully. They don’t want the public option in health care because it’s not good for private profit monopoly — oh, and because they and their families have health care.

Serolf Divad

This was pure delight. I’m probably the only guy on the internets who will admit to enjoying Matthews, so maybe I’m biased here, but God it feels good to watch Mika and Scarboro throw a conniption fit. And yes, Matthews is 100% right. If we decide something has to be done, we do it. And it’s pathetic of people like Scarboro to be all “yes, we overspent the past 8 years, and I’m just trying to stop us from overspending in the future.” That’s bullshit. The only thing I didn’t like about this clip was that Matthews didn’t get out of his chair, fly down to wherever the fuck Mika and Scarboro were sitting, shit in Mika’s mouth, rip her head off and stuff it down Scarboro’s throat. OK, maybe that’s a little harsh. Maybe he could have just pissed in Mika’s ear before ripping her head off and stuffing it down Scarboro’s throat.

You don’t have a guest on to not them them speak. Unless you are a GOPer.

I think Mika is just there to give Joe a hand job under the table…

Itsjustme

[re=346497]Serolf Divad[/re]: Maybe peed in her coffee?????

Serolf Divad

[re=346519]Itsjustme[/re]:

OK, but only if he still rips her head off and stuffs it down Scarboro’s throat. At the very least he should pour the coffe down Scarboro’s throat (after peeing in it, of course).

karen

If Americans can afford $90-150 TV bills, $90 cell phone plans, Nike’s glitteriffic shoes, dining out, Ford F350s to tow their mobile asshat home, and whatever other electronic garbage that people drool over, then they can afford to shell out for some mother fucking healthcare.

June Cleaver 2.0

[re=346516]InsidiousTuna[/re]: Not a hippie.

InsidiousTuna

[re=346579]June Cleaver 2.0[/re]: If you’re the type of person who will look at this complicated, expensive issue and say “The people who wanna ‘think about it’ are totally in the pocket of big business, man! It’s all a corporate conspiracy!”, then you are a fucking hippie and you smell like patchouli oil and bong water.

Joshua Norton

Man they really are whoring it up with this Starbucks sponsorship, eh?

I don’t understand what’s going through Starbuck’s mind A-tall! Aren’t the Scarborough types the ones who sneer about “latte sipping liberals”? Who the freak do they think SELLS the most lattes?

Clueless. Absolutely clueless.

OReillysVibrator

I think this is a Golden Age of entertaining morning cable news shows. The insani-tainment of Fox & Friends has legitimate competition for my morning viewing with the hilarity of Mika spending every minute trying to get one sentence in and Joe Scarborough having none of it.

Scott-san

[re=346601]InsidiousTuna[/re]: Come on. I’ll give you that [i]some[/i] people might be reflexively against a dumb Establishment/Capitalist Model of Failure (*cough*), but we’ve been thinking about / debating / agonizing over this “complicated, expensive issue” for [i]decades[/i]. And the people who really want to fight it haven’t even begun because the weight of the Democrats wanting to pass legislation is going to kill it, unless it’s watered down to something unrecognizable. Or, y’know, [i]totally[/i] recognizable because it’ll be the same for-profit shit-sandwich we’re sharing right now. The government will just be subsidizing these tasty meals for the poors. NEXT!

Nyarlathotep

If Mika would just lift her head up and pull Joe’s enormous ego out of her mouth, she might have been able to get a word in edgewise.

Larry McAwful

Anyone who gives Douchborough a good thrashing is my hero. All the regulars of that show are cowed into utter submission by ol’ Joe (like Mika and Mike) or never had a thought of their own in their empty little head (Willie) or basically agree with Joe on everything anyway (Pat). Commentators from the field are a different story—Chuck Todd and that British guy who talks economics sometimes are just there for facts, not opinions, and don’t seem to be interested in offering them. So on occasion you’ll have someone invade the show and actually have the cojones to disagree with Joe and stand their ground, which invariably flusters or infuriates our beloved host who then cuts to Mika, who says, “I agree there are different ways of looking at the issue, but of course you’re right, Joe,” or Barnicle, who says, “Well, Joe, I understand people have opinions, and they can be different, so let me tell you something that’s slightly related to what we’re talking about before I fade back into the wallpaper,” or Willie, who says, “Sure would be nice to have Miss California here this morning, huh guys? Mika? Whaddya say?”

Chris Matthews kicked ass this morning. I only wish I could have stuck around to see it live. Zbigniew Brzezinski is another one with balls of pure Polish brass. If only his daughter could have taken after her father in that way…

Inadequate Blackmail

The fallacy to the whole argument Joe makes is this notion that people who are worried about costs are somehow actually opposed to the nuts and bolts of healthcare reform. You’d be a damn fool not to be concerned about the costs of a program that hasn’t been fully outlined and sold to you yet. All current polling has proven is that people will have to be sold on Obama’s program. Which any idiot should know without having to take a damned poll.

Advantage Tweety. He at least understands that healthcare reform can suffer death by a thousand paper cuts.