Yeah... I think that using geography as a sort of artistic identity is kind of lame. It's not that I don't think great things have happened here over the years, but most of those great things had an identity beyond what city that they came out of. It goes back to what I said earlier in this dumb thread about people wanting to put Columbus 'on the map' and the misconception that we have to prove ourselves worthy to bigger cities and the rest of the country. Fuck that. Fuck 'the map'. Just make good shit. If you have to look to the 'big boys' for validation, you'll always be mediocre at best and you're leaving the fate of your art in someone else's hands. But I guess different people have different things they want to get out of playing music.

That said... I care just enough about this showcase thing to post about it on a stupid message board. I think it's lame to ask other people to pay for your shit, but whatever. No one forced people to donate. I hope they find what they're looking for down there. I sure as shit don't want any of it. Except for the BBQ.. I want that. Is there a donation level on their kickstarter to have a couple slabs of Ironworks' ribs brought back to Columbus?

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Maybe not directly related to the topic at hand, but an issue I have with these bands "representing" Columbus is that, as far as I can tell, none of them currently are really trying to "make it" anywhere than in Columbus. If they want to expose people to the great Columbus sound, how about a showcase in Cleveland, Cincinnati, Chicago, New York? It'll be much cheaper. If these bands are hoping to score a record deal ... well ... I guess it could happen but the likelihood of that is rare. Lydia Loveless did have the chance to play in front of Bloodshot people and that helped her score a deal with them about a year after they saw her. But she made it clearly known that this is what her dreams are, making records, touring, etc. and even then the label watched her, gave her some things they wanted to see out of her before committing money, etc.

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I'm not sure who said this cos I'm on mobile and it's too much work to go back in the thread and find It but I think it went something like this: "and none of those dudes (I'm assuming that means Cbus bands playing the WeAreOhio thing) have a cool enough haircut to even approach Gretchen from Phantods."

Well..that sounds suspiciously like virgin talk. Good luck with your hormones and all that.

Annnyway, the problem isn't the bands playing, it's that kind of pretty ok locally successful bands find the need to do something like We Are Ohio that is so obviously a bullshit endeavor in the first place. Who is telling them this is a good idea? And why don't they have more respect for themselves? They're better than this.

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DOH... are you the pimpin this lame site christopher lasch?? LOL..i have no idea what you are praying and crying and boohooing and sicking about...

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i think they should get Sally Struthers, the writer of the Twilight series and Billy Corgan... and reshoot their video.

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It's like you want to play quarterback for the Cleveland Browns so your plan is to drive up to a Browns game and throw a nerf football around in the parking lot hoping someone will notice.

The people that are actually in the Stadium at the real game won't even notice and you will probably have a good time drinking beers in the parking lot.

When you get back to Columbus you can tell everyone about how you played football near the Browns and think you saw some scouts watching you and it was time well spent.

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POTY nom.

_________________"My brother's Municipal League baseball team is named the Stepdads. Seeing as none of the guys on the team are actual stepdads, I inquired about the name. He explained, "Cuz we beat you, and you hate us."-unknown

_________________"My brother's Municipal League baseball team is named the Stepdads. Seeing as none of the guys on the team are actual stepdads, I inquired about the name. He explained, "Cuz we beat you, and you hate us."-unknown

Not sure if that's meant for me or not, but, I wasn't being ironic. It's good to see a discussion raging here again.

just adding to your point. yes, good to see an interesting thread.

tho i understand people being timid when blogging, it's real f'g boring. it's much more interesting when people grow a pair (or get drunk) and start ranting.

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Could someone who's been to sxsw and knows how this all works please clarify? My impression is that an official sxsw showcase is sponsored by somebody...like a record label or a radio station or something. And I'd assume that the bands are asked to play, don't have to pay to play, but do have to get down there under their own power.

There are different types of "official" SXSW showcase/events. Having played SXSW three years, I have a little insight into this. First, you can play an "official" showcase, by being invited to perform by an 'official sponsor,' which may be a record label or a radio show; these are not open to the usual application process, you don't "pay to play" and you may or may not be compensated. These are generally considered an 'official' showcase but they are in the strict definition not an, "official SXSW" event. they are an "official" showcase by record label X. An "official SXSW" event is where Sonicbids comes in. These "official SXSW" events are open to any band wishing to apply for consideration and you must pay an application fee of whatever the going rate is: (I believe) $40.00. These "official SXSW" events are held at specific official SXSW venues (who, by the way, pay to be selected as such) these are "official SXSW events" and this is how you can get your band listed in the SXSW program. This type of "official SXSW" event is your opportunity to attract attention from labels, agents, etc, but it's up to you and your marketing ingenuity. With a little luck you may be 'discovered' at these but that requires effort on your part and a whole lot of luck in actually getting people to come to your show and actually like you, (there's a whole lot of talent and a whole lot of events going on all at the same time so don't count on getting too lucky). If you are lucky, then maybe the following year you are invited to play an 'official' showcase. (am I confusing you yet?) If you are selected to perform one of these "official SXSW" events you are given a choice of receiving a cash payment of something like $225 or $250 or you can receive a wrist band for each band member which gets you into any other "official SXSW" event for free and you get other goodies. You can only play one "official SXSW" event and get compensated. You can play more than one "official" showcase but SXSW doesn't compensate for those. An 'official' showcase is usually just a label promoting itself and its roster of talent. A radio station may do it to attract business advertisers, by showcasing some of the artists on their playlist. Beer companies, etc... If you are not signed or getting buzz through an independent release getting airplay or have sponsorships you probably won't play an "official" showcase. If you've played Austin previously and you've had good crowd response, or developed a good rapport with a venue, you can book an unofficial show during SXSW at a venue that isn't an "official" part of the SXSW event sponsors. These types of venues are alas, pretty far removed from the 'official' SXSW block so getting people to come and 'discover' you requires more and better marketing skill and a lot more luck than playing an 'official SXSW' event. But you can always lie(sorta kinda) and tell people you played SXSW (you did but not 'officially') and embellish your resume'. So... I hope this muddies the water a bit more for you...

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4000 more pizzas and at least 400 more cases of beer to go until I can comfortably approach 400 lbs and finally head down to SXSW and feel comfortable wearing a shirt that says "I AM OHIO". I have goalz.

i smell a extra cheese kickstarter?

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I should point out that some well known music blog/music press groups in NYC and Chicago and elsewhere have their own unofficial showcases. ohmyrockness. delimag. brooklynvegan. delimag has a writeup of the "best" unofficial showcases, which does not include "Wearecolumbus", but does include a whatever kansas city showcase. I suppose you can take a variety of things from that, lol. but setting up an unofficial showcase doesn't seem that dumb if they're doing it.

I mean this is the most non-confrontational way possible, but obviously Columbusites are annoyed that Columbus isn't known as a music scene, nationally. I talk to bands all the time that want to go through Ohio, but go to Cleveland and then skip on to Chicago, because Columbus seems "too far off of I-80".

Is there interest in Donewaiting actually putting something together for SXSW (naybe in partnership with another group or a label) - or at least making themselves more well known in the national blogosphere? (Or maybe they are, and i'm just not looking in the right places)?

Is there interest in Donewaiting actually putting something together for SXSW (naybe in partnership with another group or a label) - or at least making themselves more well known in the national blogosphere? (Or maybe they are, and i'm just not looking in the right places)?

I think you're not looking in the right places. Donewaiting is definitely different from most music blogs, but you'll see it on the blog rolls of quite a few national blogosphere spots, if that's what you mean.