Deadline passes … reaction to follow

We are expecting Glen Sather to address the media around 4:45 p.m. to discuss the deadline day.

I will put up audio shortly thereafter.

For those just tuning in, the Rangers acquired 6-7, 270-pound defenseman/winger John Scott — a true enforcer — from the Blackhawks for a fifth-round pick.

They talked to Columbus throughout the day, and apparently put on a press near the deadline, for Rick Nash. But did not, obviously, offer enough to get it done. And then Scott Howson, the Blue Jackets GM, said that it was Nash who initiated the scenario by requesting a trade. That’s surprising. Shocking, actually, that a GM would say that about his team’s captain. Good luck with that relationship going forward.

Well, if Nash requested a trade, the blame ha to fall partly on his feet. If you are going to request that you be traded, you can’t then limit your GM to five teams and then be surprised when it didn’t get done.

Columbus’ demands that the package in return would have to include either Ryan McDonagh or Michael Del Zotto plus either Derek Stepan or Carl Hagelin, plus Boston College winger Chris Kreider and Brandon Dubinsky,

Thanks Linzo!! A smart deal or no deal at all. Glad we didnt allow ourselves to get robbed!

I have a serious question for u and anyone else that wants to answer: I recorded the TSN Tradecentre today from 8am to 8pm, but nothing happened of any significance for any team. Should I keep it or delete it?

Sorry Salty,
Nash is a great player, but he is not the type of player that can carry an entire team all by himself. Giving up what CBJ wanted would have weakened the team overall. Step, DZ, and McD are all players who play major minutes and pivotal roles on this team. I liked the Rangers offer much more. Anybody who knows the history of trades knows that you never get equal value when trading a star away. Never happens.

so now howson has probably pissed off nash. who, in turn, will probably not expand his list of teams. which, in turn, means his value will go down in the market since everyone will know that there are only a handful of teams that can bid for him. unless nash is a super nice guy and expands that list to include a lot more teams, the blue jackets are in trouble.

Howson is a moron. Yep Columbus has no obligation to trade Nash of course. Teling the world Nash wanted the trade and initiated it helps no one espcecially there best player. Therefore he is an idiot. He could have said; we stink, rick has been a good soldier for years, if we can get fair value back we would have traded him.

but no the moron Gm said the athlete initiated the trade circus. how is that going to help columbus? there best player is going to hae life and his play will probably show that also.

CBJ loses because it is run by morons Detroit wins because management is smart and shrewd and use finesse not to throw players under the bus for no reason.

I couldn’t believe Howson’s presser — even the Tradecentre guys were speechless. How could he actually say that Nash approached HIM for a trade? The TSN hosts made a good point saying how when guys are involved in trade rumours (Fleetwood Mac, anyone) and aren’t traded how their play suffers after the deadline. Imagine how Rick Nash is going to play now! Jack Johnson might finish his career at -900 now.

Salty, how can you be livid? The Rangers are having a great season and didn’t blow the team up to get a guy who hasn’t proven much in his career.
The Rangers are first place in the conference and have 3 games in hand on the Nucks and Wings…

Sather made no earth-shaking move at the deadline, last year, and look how improved the club is this year, still intact. Look for more dramatic improvement next year, regardless of whether the club signs a big-name free agent this summer.

So that, if the club does not win the Stanley Cup this year, it will not detract from the fact that this team is now in dress rehearsal mode for winning it all, next year. Thanks to Slats and company for holding the line and keeping the core together. The payoff for doing so is going to be one hell of a lot more than “making the playoffs.” Get ready for a parade. You heard it here first –

if the last rumored ranger trad proposal is true again that is a good and fair package.cbj would get 4 nhl players and a 1st. erixon and miller were first round picks, dubi is a good player and thomas is a wildcard.

nash has 6 or 7 years left on a monster contract. cbj is 10 players away from competing they would have gotten relatively cheap, valued assets and got rid of a bad contract. nash has a bad contract especially for a small market team that sucks……………..

howson’s stupidity is staggering, if Patrick approved this insanity he is a moron also…..CBJ have zero leverage.. THEY SUCK………

What a poor wretched life one must lead when Bostonian referees and teams dictate the temper of one’s insipid, banal existence marked by the lack of fecundity and mental rigor. Never to see the beauty that the world offers…Paris? no. Rome? nope. No time for these moments of wonderment when the DVR awaits with a fresh box of Stouffers Macaroni and Cheese while the duckbill sips a bottle of chilled champagne. Carry on, trash.. carry on.

taking a 6-goal scorer off your roster and replacing him with a 20-scorer is called an upgrade. the chances of miller, erixon and whoever we pick in the first round this year at 29 (or whatever) even making the the nhl is minimal. nash is one year older than dubinsky with a ton more talent.

staalsie, I hate the knicks with all my platypus heart. Each loss, especially Game 6 losses that result in squandered championships warms the cockles of my heart. Was a great moment in the losing tradition of the NY KNicks.. good times!

Erixon would be in the NHL if he played for nearly any other team. We are blessed with seriously deep defense.

I think that package is big. It’s the kind of thing you give up for a star player. It’s a lot. I just don’t see how the Blue Jackets get more than that in the offseason. Honestly, I am surprised they didn’t do that trade. Happy about it, but surprised.

jt miller is going to be a good pro.. no idea if he will be real good but he will be a good pro and he is cheap. erizon will be a good pro also, jury out on how good. dubi is a top 6 forward on CBJ today. and a first round pick and then christian thomas who is doing great in juniors. not exactly a bunch of slop.

if nash had a 4 year deal at $5 mill he would be worth more but $7.8 per.. OUCH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Stuart, its a fair trade in an uncapped league. With the NHL cap, and Nash’s hit, it would have been awful. 3 of your top 5 prospects, plus a roster guy, plus your first for a guy underperforming relative to his cap hit? Brutal.

What bothers me is that the Rangers are now have no depth on forwards. While both EC and Wolski were far from being superstars (to say the least), what are we going to do in case anybody gets injured? And let’s be realistic, it’s almost inevitable, especially in playoffs. Insert Bickel into the fourth line again? What if there are two injured forwards? Or three?

Sounds to me that someone did not really want Nash to be moved – come on, who could possibly demand that asking price for Nash – seriously? I mean even a two for 1 could have been considered – but if what is above is even remotely correct – there are much bigger problems in that club – not just Nash.

Amen, Jimbo. Scott is an absolute beast with the fists. I am actually kind of excited. I know he doesn’t skate well or play much defense or do much besides Phaneuf people but lord almighty can he punch. How much fun will it be to put him on the ice against the Phlyers as we attempt the undefeated season against them?

Yes, manny. The duckbill feathers only ruffle for lowfalutin trash of the feline nature. Away from the one transgression he is a kind mammal. Like Morrissey said, “it is harder to be gentle and kind.’ I shall be gentle and kind with a charminy soft demeanor…AND MORE!

nash is a shooter like stamkos. they do not have the same effect on the players around them that a guy like crosby or malkin have.

therefore Nash’s effect on others will be different. Nash’s effect on the Rangers actually could hav been even greater since they have 1 true shooter and that is gabby. if nash was on the rangers I tell him shoot all the time, whenever you get the puck, he is not there to set up other guys.

I am happy they did nit get Nash because the price was outreageous but sad they could not get him at the right price… nash with this team as is minue Dubi would be interesting to watch… Just have to continue on the path to develop within and hope the guys here and in the system continue to progress.

That’s more an indictment of CBJ than an endorsement of Dubi. Damning him with faint praise.

And Christian Thomas isn’t doing as well this year in juniors. Points per game are down, goals per game are way down. Still a solid year, but nothing like last year. In the end, I think he is a great AHL player, but an NHL afterthought.

I agree with you 100%. He’s more of that Power forward/sniper. But that’s somewhat one-dimensional (although that’s a good dimension!). I think what Columbus wanted was totally out of whack for the individual skillset he brings to the table.

I think he compares more to Gaborik … and would you give up those assets for a Gaborik? I wouldn’t either.

All of you should be singing the PRAISES of Uncle Glennie right now – how many times in the past, I dont know, 15 years or so do we sit here on trade day saying ….. OMFG What they hell was he thinking?

Well – a small hiccup in John Scott – John Scott? Seriously? News to Rangers: You are in first place, you have been grinding out wins with homegrown talent. Fighting is not really a part of the play-offs. An attempt to take some load off of Prust? Well maybe = but can the guy even keep up? Last time I think I saw him – he was struggling to keep up with fourth liners – I am sure this was OK’d by Torts??

When I pass on, Id like to have a landscape of Paris painted on the underside of my coffin, so I can experience that beauty for an eternity. Perhaps that is an idea you should explore for someone that you know of!!! Sooner rather than later!!! LOL!!!

Sorry when you commit to a player with a 60m contract at 7.8m per year, the player doesnt get to tell you they want out and also to dictate to whom and when it happens.

If Nash wanted out you can’t blame CBJ for playing the process this way. Put yourself in CBJ shoes and think rationally. They’re going to do what’s best for the organization and maximize value on the return. If they don’t ge ttheir price they have no obligation, they own the contract and the rights for Nash to play for them.

At the same time Howson shouldn’t have aired this all out at the presser but we already know he’s a dope.

Uncle Glennie is a throwback GM, Manny – he came up with the Big, Bad Bruins of the mid-late 1960’s, and he loves having really tough guys on his roster. I hope Scott doesn’t have any off-ice problems like Boogy (RIP) did.

yeah, erixon is probably going to be an nhl player, but i don’t think he’s looked very good as a ranger in his short stint. it probably makes sense to give him a little time up here before the playoffs so torts can see if he can trust him.

also, i realize i’m in the minority but i thought jeff woywitka played a pretty good game. i really wish sauer was back, but fact is that guy has always been injury prone. from what i can tell, and i’m no expert on the ahl, we don’t have much depth down there. who could the rangers call up if they had some injuries? erixon and wellman?

doodie my only point is the ranger offer was in the realm of fair and reasonable… they did not try to trade only prospects and 3rd tier prospects at that.

yes there elite talent they did not want to trade like kreider but I assume if CBJ wanted Mcilrath instead of Erixon the Rangers would have been fine with that and same with AA instead of Dubi, or st croix instead of thomas… I bet CBJ did not even think this offer was in the neighborhood….

rational? dubinsky, erixon, miller and a first rounder is a fair deal under the circumstances. you’re getting two nhl ready players, one who has the potential to be a very good defenseman. you’re getting a legitimate top-line prospect and a first rounder. that’s a fair deal.

Rick Nash will definately do to CBJ what Heatly did in Ottawa. Howson is a moron! Turned down a very fair trade that he will only wish is on the table at the draft. Nash will use his no trade clause to force a trade to us at a much lower price.

As for the rest of the day, I am disappointed that Sather did not address as big a problem as a power forward and that is a dman who can shoot the damn puck from the point on the PP like Wideman.

If Kreider really has magical hockey powers such that he’d make our lineup right out of college mid-season without training camp, and we could use him, we can always sign him if he turns pro right away.

It is fair and it’s more than they are going to get come July. Instead they chose to make their star player hate them and play out the year like a zombie complaining and demanding for trades through his agent. Essentially they created a mess when they could have gotten a top 6 forward (for them), an NHL ready Defenseman, a decent prospect and a first round pick. How are they going to get anything close to that later?

Their only option is to get a new GM, patch it up with Nash, let him be part of the plan moving forward, and start shedding salaries and adding crucial pieces one-by-one.

Haha, Stuart a — unfortuantely we can’t name a player like Nash in the NHL with a four-year deal at $5 mil per? Maybe 10 years ago you’d find that sort of cap hit. $7.8 is just about the going rate for superstars in this league (pre-cap circumvention, of course!)

Come on man, for one of the leagues’s elite players, Sather offered a $4m player with 6 goals, a very late 1st round pick (pretty much a 2nd), and 3 ok prospects, only one of which is currently on the NHL path. Disappointing if that’s the best Sather offered.

Not saying Sather shoudl have done the rumored Stepan, MDZ, Dubi and Kreider, but something tells me if Sather spent yesterday at the table instead of posturing he could have found some middle ground. I would have given up Dubi and 1 of those other 3.

Doodie – really? I think that seems a bit high, who knows. I guess it is within the range of possibilities – I am not sure who else we may have to part ways with at the end of the year – I think some of that depends upon how we fare in the tourny = well see,

Noah
I would do that deal for Malkin, but only after some thinking about it. Stepan and McDonut are very young players (21 year olds) with now over 1.5 years of NHL experience. They are playing MAJOR roles with the team… we are very lucky to have them.

I really don’t understand everyone that says we get parise for nothing but $$$$$.

Where the hell are you going to put him cap wise?? You CAN NOT get him for “just $$$$” technically! You have to move $$$$ to get him so you ARE NOT getting him for nothing. Something must go in order to add him. Some combination of current roster salary (salaries)/prospect assets that must be resigned(in the next couple of years) must go to make the room.

Trade them yesterday for Nash or in June/July dump them to get parise, they still have to go!

Small town markets usually have small minded management , I take that back.. let’s see Montreal , Toronto, oh yes the great slats sather legend in his own mind.. “fella’s when I coached the Oiler’s “”‘ yeah yeah