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This post did change my mind on the Mihawk scene. I no longer believed that Crocodile was able to make Mihawk back off Luffy. If you consider that Mihawk decided not to engage Don Krieg despite the latter attacking him, then there's not really much reason to read his interaction with Crocodile as a strong feat from him.

> We know that if Doffy infused his strings with haki, he’d have beheaded Croc.

I actually don't agree with this anymore. I used to think that Doffy obviously didn't use haki because if he did Croc would have died, but I don't think there's any in story reason for Doffy not to have used haki when he attacked Croc. He knows he was up against a Logia user, attacking him without haki would be silly.

CineraDoffy not using haki suggests that Doffy was capable of essentially neg diffing Croc. That is in flagrant contradiction of how Oda depicted the scene and portrayed them. Doffy wanted to ally with Croc (not to recruit him, he offered an alliance). Apart from the respect Doffy showed Croc, they also had an equal clash.

CineraI do not think Doffy was Croc's equal at all, but I don't think Oda would have drawn them clashing like that if Croc was so far below Doffy.

Hell, Doffy wouldn't want to ally with Croc if he was so far below him. Given the ambiguity of the scene, I think Doffy using haki fits the depiction that Oda was going for better than Doffy not using haki.

I've yet to reread Marineford (I've been procrastinating I know), so I'm not confident in engaging in Crocodile debates right now (I would probably have to read Impel Down as well, as Crocodile's combat ability probably wasn't retconned between Impel Down and Marineford. I'm really not looking forward to rereading Impel Down.

silverfireI’ve been going through Marineford a bit. Have not read Id in a long time. I think he got retconned a little between Alabasta and MF, but nothing too dramatic. I don’t care too much about that because none of his MF feats put him any better than yc4 imho. So far what I’m seeing is most of the community disagrees but I see no coherent argument as to why.

CineraYC 4 is where I place him based on my recollection of MF. He was still decisively below the likes of Jozu and Doflamingo, but he looked better than Ivankov and no worse (IMO even better) than Jinbe.

CineraI don't read too much into Luffy getting him to back off as he also got Mihawk to back off when he attacked him (I do obviously think Hawkeyes could beat Crocodile with at most low difficulty, but he wasn't willing to exert himself too much).

silverfireHe doesn’t have to be superior to Zoro to be a high tier. I don’t think a mid tier would’ve been able to damage and slow down Zoro the way he was. He was also much more of a problem for Law than a veteran level character would be. Vergo was basically one-shot material. I’m confident he’d beat Snack. By the end of Wano, he’ll probably be stronger than Cracker.