Some shrink is gonna make a ton off this.I mean hell, everybody needs something to chat about in therapy but c'mon now . . .She's going to start LIVING on the damn couch, unless she has R. Lee Ermey for a shrink - mambypambyland and all that

BigMamaBlueberry:Wow, what planet do you live on TROLL. I realize it's easy post whatever you want to any internet site you want, but maybe your parent should up the parental controls of your internet access to the net. Get an f*ing clue.

lecavalier:Yeah, if all of you farkers didn't say bad things about this man, he'd have been found alive right now and would have seen the folly of his ways and learned of true love and appreciation and run-on sentences would cease to exist.

You heartless farkers. Your words. They kill and now this dude is dead in Harlem and the guy who posted this above has lost a family member. Because of your words.

Because, clearly, being put off by a lack of normal human empathy = believing in magic. Or could it simply be that not everyone is an emotionally defective sociopath?

But more seriously, if you really need this spelled out: More-normal, empathetic people are instinctively offended by apparently heartless people in contexts like this thread, not because they hold the jeerers personally responsible for the particular case, but because such expressed lack of sympathy signals a general characteristic -- namely, that you're the kind of heartless jerk who does indeed make the world a slightly colder, sh*ttier place in which to live, i.e. the type of person who does generally contribute to vulnerable people's misery.

Humans aren't generally able to voluntarily turn their empathy on and off based strictly on whether they believe that feeling/displaying empathy will lead to a positive outcome for the situation being considered. If you're utterly unaffected by this case in terms of sympathy (and can therefore joke about it with complete comfort), then you're likely not very capable of being genuinely compassionate about cases that you can have effect on. Other people recognize this, and it repels them.

He quite clearly didn't want to get married. And just as clearly, his wife's family didn't realize this fact. I've no idea if he tried to tell them, but if he did and they dismissed his feelings as "jitters" or whatever, then he probably felt trapped. Suicide is a way out.

Nuclear Pancake:BigMamaBlueberry: You all are some sick farks (yes I've been on fark for a while, I do know what to expect).

Go ahead and post more Dawson pictures for me or better yet that chick crying infront of the lockers crying.

This is messed up story is terrible; a newlywed bride and some kids. Majorly tragic up and very sad.

This.

Yea, its fark. Suicide isnt funny even on fark. There is nothing even funny about this story. Its sad, the headline was good, but you went overboard with the tag.

/flame on trolls, my ignore list is relatively empty.

Yeah....but.....this is fark. How many stories with death involved are greenlit each day? If one feels empathetic towards every tragic story posted on this site you're going to have a rough go. Humor, no matter how dark or depraved it may be, is natural reaction to avoid the black hole of melancholy that awaits if you actually choose to absorb every story in an adult manner....and we clearly are not adults.

Ed Grubermann:Which are always voided if the death is a suicide. That's some quality thinking there, Sparky.

This isnt necessarily true. A lot of policies simply have a buffer of time on the policy to ensure you were of sound mind at the time of purchasing the policy. Typical times are 2-3 years.. after 2-3 years of having your policy, the suicide clause kicks in and your family still gets paid. This way you actually can plan for your family to be covered in the event of an unforseen mental illness or disaster, you just cant have one going on right now.

dickfreckle:Your Average Witty Fark User: Having had a very, very close member of my family commit suicide, all I have to say is fark you. Fark you all. Well, with the exception of BigMamaBlueberry- otherwise, eat a bag of dicks.

I had an uncle shoot himself at 40. The official line in the news was that it was a gun accident, but my family knew what actually happened. This was ten years ago and his face and sadness still haunt me. He was the one who taught me to ride a motorcycle and I frequently dream of the first ride we took together sometime in the 80s, when I was just a wee bastard. When I ride these days I try to point the sky in thanks even though I don't believe in Heaven. He was a great guy - that macho family member that kids naturally gravitate toward - the guy who walks in the room and has tiny cousins hugging his legs and not letting go.

We all make jokes at Fark. Horribly tasteless ones. And some of us have suffered some form of mental illness (I have and apparently still do). Suicide is something I'm always thinking about, if not in the front of my mind. But it's always there. Seems to run in the family.

But still, this is Fark. You gotta have a thick skin to hang here.

/I will regret getting this personal in the morning, but here we are

Bless his soul. Trust me on this - your uncle lives on. Pray for his soul, that he be comforted, even though this happened long ago. He will benefit from your prayers, and so will you.

UsikFark:Want to hear something chilling? he probably wandered around by the water for ~6 hours, if those times are correct, waiting for someone to call him and tell him NOT to jump. Usually people leave notes/ make threats if they don't really want to die, but seems like he flipped after a few hours. In his somewhat-delusional mind, no one called, no one cared.

You're probably right. Even though not suicidal, I have been depressed enough to think that no-one cares, and just waiting for someone, anyone, just say hi. When you're in that state of mind, you don't think with logic, you can't argue with the feeling.

Of course, you are testing people who don't know they are being tested. And when that call never comes, you think "They're right. I don't matter."

MayoSlather:Nuclear Pancake: BigMamaBlueberry: You all are some sick farks (yes I've been on fark for a while, I do know what to expect).

Go ahead and post more Dawson pictures for me or better yet that chick crying infront of the lockers crying.

This is messed up story is terrible; a newlywed bride and some kids. Majorly tragic up and very sad.

This.

Yea, its fark. Suicide isnt funny even on fark. There is nothing even funny about this story. Its sad, the headline was good, but you went overboard with the tag.

/flame on trolls, my ignore list is relatively empty.

Yeah....but.....this is fark. How many stories with death involved are greenlit each day? If one feels empathetic towards every tragic story posted on this site you're going to have a rough go. Humor, no matter how dark or depraved it may be, is natural reaction to avoid the black hole of melancholy that awaits if you actually choose to absorb every story in an adult manner....and we clearly are not adults.

So being on Fark is like being a doctor. It is often said about doctors that they must remove themselves emotionally from their patients, so they don't die in the Swamps of Sadness.

Alonjar:Ed Grubermann: Which are always voided if the death is a suicide. That's some quality thinking there, Sparky.

This isnt necessarily true. A lot of policies simply have a buffer of time on the policy to ensure you were of sound mind at the time of purchasing the policy. Typical times are 2-3 years.. after 2-3 years of having your policy, the suicide clause kicks in and your family still gets paid. This way you actually can plan for your family to be covered in the event of an unforseen mental illness or disaster, you just cant have one going on right now.

This. My six-month waiting period expired five years ago, so mu family gets some dough even if I expire myself.

dickfreckle:Your Average Witty Fark User: Having had a very, very close member of my family commit suicide, all I have to say is fark you. Fark you all. Well, with the exception of BigMamaBlueberry- otherwise, eat a bag of dicks.

I had an uncle shoot himself at 40. The official line in the news was that it was a gun accident, but my family knew what actually happened. This was ten years ago and his face and sadness still haunt me. He was the one who taught me to ride a motorcycle and I frequently dream of the first ride we took together sometime in the 80s, when I was just a wee bastard. When I ride these days I try to point the sky in thanks even though I don't believe in Heaven. He was a great guy - that macho family member that kids naturally gravitate toward - the guy who walks in the room and has tiny cousins hugging his legs and not letting go.

We all make jokes at Fark. Horribly tasteless ones. And some of us have suffered some form of mental illness (I have and apparently still do). Suicide is something I'm always thinking about, if not in the front of my mind. But it's always there. Seems to run in the family.

But still, this is Fark. You gotta have a thick skin to hang here.

/I will regret getting this personal in the morning, but here we are

Just make sure it does not coat the back of the wall, OK?

Joking aside hang in there and don't feel discouraged. If you need someone to talk to, EIP. As a fellow Farker with suicide in his families past I will listen if needed. :)

Their wedding picture at that table gave me chills. The look on his face is sheer hopelessness. If I were the widow, I would put those pictures away and never look at them again...or bury them in the back yard.

Also, she is going to blame herself forever. And probably so will their kids.

Your Average Witty Fark User:Having had a very, very close member of my family commit suicide, all I have to say is fark you. Fark you all. Well, with the exception of BigMamaBlueberry- otherwise, eat a bag of dicks.

Wait, someone would rather die than be around you and it's somehow MY fault?

Poor guy. Life sucks at times, but I can't imagine feeling so hopeless. I hope to God I never am.

My mom told me once how one of her friends since high school had an ex-husband who committed suicide. The friend said it was the best thing he had ever done for her. She said he had a lot of demons (depression, drugs), and when he killed himself, that meant his children would get benefits until they were 18. That's kind of an f-ed up way to look at things, but it is what it is.

This is terrible, this story. What a shiatty thing to do to her and the kids, but I have been in that dark small place. Only once, but it makes me know enough about how it feels--you are an animal in a trap...still, come the fark ON. The day of the wedding? That seems calculated to cause maximum distress to those left behind.

PsiChi:If you do that, even for one week, you will know there is life after death.

In other words, there is no citation.

I have looked into it. There is no verifiable life after death. The closest you can demonstrate is the "Near Death Experience". Actual research may be seen here (new window), here (new window) and here (new window)

Harv72b:"Witnesses said the just-married groom walked out of the Radisson and into a cab sometime before 9 a.m. Sunday...He made his way to 55 Richman Plaza about 15 minutes away in The Bronx...where he's believed to have jumped, around 3 p.m."

I know traffic in New York is a biatch, but WTF?

/tragic loss, sad for the family, etc.

Might want to re-read that last sentence:

An FDNY Marine unit found Brazier's body in the waters near Roberto Clemente State Park, slightly upstream from where he's believed to have jumped, around 3 p.m., the sources added.

All joking aside this is a really sad, tragic situation but I can't help but feel angry at this guy. My thing is, if you're alone and have no one around you to care and you want to die, by all means off yourself. But when you have family depending on you, suicide is a coward's way out.

lecavalier:chookbillion: lecavalier: Jim_Callahan: Your Average Witty Fark User: Having had a very, very close member of my family commit suicide, all I have to say is fark you. Fark you all. Well, with the exception of BigMamaBlueberry- otherwise, eat a bag of dicks.

So you're mad at us because your family member couldn't even hack it in the easiest living conditions on the planet? Not our fault if your family line fails to produce properly-balanced psychologies.

You probably just killed someone else now with your horrible, mean-spirited words. Good work, murderer!!!!

Dude, I don't think anyone's awake enough to bite.

There is a monumental difference between someone trolling and just being sarcastic. I know it's fun to call out trolls, but sometimes, people are just being sarcastic.

Oh, okay. But you did it twice, so I thought you were waiting for someone to have something to say back.

AgentBang:All joking aside this is a really sad, tragic situation but I can't help but feel angry at this guy. My thing is, if you're alone and have no one around you to care and you want to die, by all means off yourself. But when you have family depending on you, suicide is a coward's way out.

Nut up and take responsibility.

I agree and feel the same way, mostly...but odds are this dude was seriously mentally ill. My grandfather was manic depressive with severe depressive episodes, he tried suicide several times before they finally found the right medication for him.

PsiChi:umad: PsiChi: Bless his soul. Trust me on this - your uncle lives on. Pray for his soul, that he be comforted, even though this happened long ago. He will benefit from your prayers, and so will you.

Citation needed. Trust me on this - your god doesn't exist.

If you need a citation, seriously research life after death. If you do that, even for one week, you will know there is life after death.

Religion aside, people who don't know that we live on haven't seriously looked into it.

Pretty much, I used to be firmly atheist and not believe in any life after death. There is just way too much evidence out there to the contrary.

/not implying god is necessary for life after death. Just reference to my personal experience.

AgentBang: All joking aside this is a really sad, tragic situation but I can't help but feel angry at this guy. My thing is, if you're alone and have no one around you to care and you want to die, by all means off yourself. But when you have family depending on you, suicide is a coward's way out.

Nut up and take responsibility.

I understand and agree with you for those who can. Keep in mind though and you cannot dispute this fact, some people are incapable of helping themselves or getting better. Demanding a depressed suicidal person who is seriously clinically depressed to just Nut up is not different then telling someone in a wheel chair to man up and walk it off. They mentally and physically cannot do it.

I had a boss who I was kinda friends with who I knew was horribly depressed after his wife had an affair. I watched him decline rapidly and turn to drinking. I never stepped in and was the friend I should have been. A year later he blew his brains out the back of his head. Before the affair he was a very upbeat and active guy. His life was devastated, some people can't bounce back from that.

/there are many whiny ass lazy people, who need to nut up/there are also many who's brains are so chemically farked up they cannot

Chester the Snake:Poor guy. Life sucks at times, but I can't imagine feeling so hopeless. I hope to God I never am.

My mom told me once how one of her friends since high school had an ex-husband who committed suicide. The friend said it was the best thing he had ever done for her. She said he had a lot of demons (depression, drugs), and when he killed himself, that meant his children would get benefits until they were 18. That's kind of an f-ed up way to look at things, but it is what it is.

Maybe this guy got married to ensure his wife got benefits too.

Sounds like the dad of a friend of mine, he had been divorced and had many problems with depression although it didn't show until a quite a few years later... he went to the outskirts of town on a dirt road and with a suicide note in hand, he shot himself in the head. The son inherited a few million dollars, the story looks good but it just gets worse. The son bought an amazing house flat out in cash, went out and bought 20+ cars that he had wanted, had parties filled with tons of booze and drugs every night. Before he knew it all the money was gone, his house wasn't worth shiat anymore (holes/drawings all over the walls and furniture ruined just to name a couple things). How did he afford things afterwards? He started to steal things, don't know where he's at these days, I haven't talked to him in a few years but I can't imagine that he turned his life around. He didn't want to sell what he had because it's how he impressed the ladies...