i know the dieting stomach pangs well brother. i'm finally getting through the first round of them on this dam ckd. And the total fog i've been in is just starting to rise. Thank God.

I love thai food bro, now you got me hungering for it, i might have to work that into my carb up. you lost another 2.5lbs, your gonna be sick ripped by the end of this reporter. Oh and thanks to you, i'm out 200-260 bucks now ... you got me convinced I need 4 weeks of oraptropin1 with my pct. so you can look forward to me asking about 10,ooo questions in the next 5 weeks.

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I don't do this for my family, my friends, women, accolades, pride, or ego. I do it for me and no one else, its just part of who I am.

You might want to send IBE some mail that I encouraged you by my results from OT-1. What PCT cycle are you planning it for? By that I mean, what will you be recovering from?

The reason I ask is I would save OT-1 for the best-run cycle that you've ever done. Most of the other users who ran OT-1 during PCT have reported that they don't feel like they're on PCT at all. The gains just kept coming and they were losing fat to boot.

I'm planning on adding it to my final cycle in June, but for four weeks instead of two that I last did.

well this isnt a terribly anabolic cycle that i'm running. Its mdien solo, ramping up to 12mg ed. but I am shut down pretty hard. I'm only using it to keep my strength up (maybe gain a little) while i'm cutting. Check out my cutting journal.

You might want to send IBE some mail that I encouraged you by my results from OT-1.

Hey Reporter if I tell IBE about your experience and how it encouraged me will they give you some kind of discount? I ask because I'm about to put in an order for 2 kits and if this helps you out, well then more power to you!

I read all the other reviews and yours was the one that really sold me on this stuff. I thank you tonz for that! Good luck Reporter!

No, unfortunately not. But they did allow me to be one of the testers after my pretty intense debates at Avant Labs' forum. I wasn't challenging those guys there on their science background and knowledge, I'd certainly lose, just on the fact that they were so closed minded to the possibility of oral IGF-1 working.

I got some PMs from IBE and they sent me a kit to try. As I stated in my review, the fat loss benefits from it are unlike anything I've ever tried. I'm not too excited from Trimax, even though it's still too early to tell. I was just expecting something a little more, I guess.