Of course cops are people. Highly trained people who wear body armor and are actually a part of finding the suspects.

The idea that this situation would have been safer or would have come to a more positive end because amateurs had guns is crazy balls.

Rhetoric like this just perpetuates the negative stereotypes of gun owners as out of touch cowboys that think not only that guns are the solution to problems, but that bigger and more powerful guns are.

Hell, if there was people "cowering in their homes wishing they had an AR-15 with a hi-capacity magazine" they'd be misinformed. For close quarters home defense a shotgun is going to be more effective and less likely to unintentionally hurt others in or around the home.

Yeah, your so free b/c you have an AR in your hand. Lemme know how that stands up against the state that you guys distrust so much when they come knocking.

I am free because I have the right to choose whether or not to arm myself. Get your head in the game here slick.

Rights are not given by the state. If they were they would cease to be rights.

I don't distrust the state. It is an entity. Humanity, for all good and ill, makes up the state. I distrust human nature. So do most right thinking individuals. As such, checks against power are necessary.

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Ah, ChiefsPlanet, where we all are millionaires, bench press 500 pounds, bang supermodels, and are ready to empty a clip into a terrorist at a moments notice.

What CAN'T we do, really?

My only shortcoming is origami. But **** that shit.

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There's a BIG difference between protecting your property and loved ones and going out and actively seeking to become what some envision a "hero" by taking out the bad guy. Doesn't seem like some want to distinguish between the two

There's a BIG difference between protecting your property and loved ones and going out and actively seeking to become what some envision a "hero" by taking out the bad guy. Doesn't seem like some want to distinguish between the two

I didn't get that from this discussion. Just that should the guy have entered anyone's home, they get to take the guy out. Why wait?