Pro-life advocates in Missouri have prepared a response ad to one that actor Michael J. Fox has made in numerous states that contains misleading information about pro-life candidates and their views on stem cell research. The new ads feature St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Jeff Suppan and stars Jim Caviezel of "The Passion of Christ."

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A new study by Steven Goldman and colleagues at the University of Rochester Medical Center finds embryonic stem cells cause tumors when inserted into rats that have Parkinson's.

As a result, patients like Fox would likely be killed or face severe problems if treated with embryonic stem cells.

Michael J. Fox was caught in a despicable display and it's on film for the world to see. Basically he was whoring himself for his Democrat cronies! Trying to create sympathy from the public. USING his illness to generate votes!

He didn't take his medicine so he could be worst than he NORMALLY IS, so people will want to vote for stem cell research! Then when he's caught with his proverbial pants down, he goes on tv and says something about he "guesses he forgot to take his pills that day".

Inside Edition uncovered interviews where he states he's done that before. Even when he's gone before the congress!

Pretty grotesque if you ask me! That would be like having a hemophilliac not take his coagulation medication before testifying. Let congress watch the person nearly bleed to death before the tv camera's! Garner all the sympathy you need, then pray like mad you can stop the bleeding before it's too late!

Better yet... maybe pro-lifers should show an aborted fetus on the floor! Perhaps then we can get some change done by congress!

Maybe ole' Michael is on to something! Even better still, lets make sure Michael is there to watch it, after all, he thinks those little cells that turn into a child are worth his pathetic sorry arse!

So much for the Dems fantasy about the "religious right" staying home on election day. They just made sure with the phony Fox ad that an issue dear to Christian hearts will be front and center and push them to the polls. Thanks libs for shooting yourselves in the foot once again. Losers!

OK...I am going to be oh so blasted for this, but I found the commericial boring. I had to watch it twice just to understand what they were saying and the production was so cheap looking that if they spent more than 20 dollars for it they got ripped. You know I am all for rebuttle on statements that are false, but couldn't they have done a better job. I find it truly hard to believe that people are saying it was a great commerical. Are you serious or am I just crazy. Either way as long as the point gets across that is most important.

OK...I am going to be oh so blasted for this, but I found the commericial boring. I had to watch it twice just to understand what they were saying and the production was so cheap looking that if they spent more than 20 dollars for it they got ripped. You know I am all for rebuttle on statements that are false, but couldn't they have done a better job. I find it truly hard to believe that people are saying it was a great commerical. Are you serious or am I just crazy. Either way as long as the point gets across that is most important.

The fact that it looked cheap presumably is because it was put together very quickly so as to have an immediate retort to the dishonest and exploitive ad by Fox. That the producers of this ad were able to get such big names to accept and participate so quickly (obviously the Kurt Warner portion was a quick but definitive statement using the camcorders limited microphone) makes this ad very powerful. In fact the productional beauty of the Fox commercial comes off just as it is - slick production values to covered adorn a specious presentations. The counter ad is a no-frills, star-powered and heartfelt ad. More honest and more effective.

Naps, that is exactly what Madison Avenue is all about. We have to be smart enough to hear the message and look beyond the glitter of the ad. Your question begs another: why did the MJF ad cost more than $20.? All he did was sit and talk. I was taken back by the degeneration of his health. It saddens me. His message is still about embryonic stem cells. Should an adult stem cell research cure him tomorrow, would he still support ESC experiments? I think so.

Rochester, NY (LifeNews.com) -- Scientists working with embryonic stem cell research on animals reconfirmed what pro-life advocates have been saying for years about it. Researcher Steven Goldman and colleagues at the University of Rochester Medical Center said injecting embryonic stem cells into the brains of patients with Parkinson's disease would cause tumors.

Goldman's research team has been injecting the controversial cells into rats that have the disease and the cells turned into tumors afterwards.

The scientists explained their findings in an article in the latest issue of Nature Medicine. They said the embryonic stem cell injections helped some of the rats but some of the cells started growing in a manner that would eventually lead to a tumor. "The behavioral data validate the utility of the approach. But it also raises a cautionary flag and says we are not ready for prime time yet," Goldman told the Washington Post.

He conceded that considerably more research would need to be done to determine whether the tumor problems could ever be overcome. Parkinson's is a disease where dopamine-releasing cells in the brain die out, which leads to muscle dysfunction and can eventually cause paralysis. The goal of stem cell research in Parkinson's is to replace the dead cells with stem cells that form into new dopamine cells. Goldman's team used human embryonic stem cells obtained by killing days-old unborn children that were grown in a special chemical used to coax them into becoming brain cells.

The team killed the rats before they could determine that the tumors that appeared to be growing actually finished appearing and they said that any embryonic stem cell treatments on humans, which has never been tried, would have to be closely monitored. Some autopsies on the rats found tumors and that the embryonic stem cells began to grow uncontrollably rather than becoming the dopamine cells as intended. Another team led by Ole Isacson, a Harvard Medical School professor of neuroscience and neurology, published similar results earlier this month in the online journal Stem Cells and found that the embryonic stem cells also produced tumors.

Adult stem cells have not had the same problems and have been used successfully to treat dozens of diseases and conditions. But scientists have said they don't think embryonic stem cell research will lead to a cure for Parkinson's. University of Melbourne Emeritus Professor of Medicine Thomas Martin told Australian lawmakers recently that he did not think that embryonic stem cell research would even lead to cures for major diseases such as diabetes or Parkinson's.

Martin, an internationally recognized Fellow of the Royal Society, said the embryonic stem cells produced from human cloning would have the same problems.

May 13, 2004, 8:58 a.m. The Wrong Tree Embryonic stem cells are not all that.

By Wesley J. Smith

Once again the media are trumpeting the call among many in Congress, pushed by millions in Big Biotech lobbying money, for President Bush to reverse his decision to limit federal funding of embryonic-stem-cell research (ESCR) to those lines already in existence on August 9, 2001. Fronted this time by the grief-stricken Nancy Reagan, and boosted by Hollywood celebrities such as Christopher Reeve, Michael J. Fox, and Mary Tyler Moore, we are warned darkly, as a recent New York Times editorial put it, that the existing federal-funding restrictions "are so potentially damaging to medicine" that the administration is encountering opposition to its policy even among its "own conservative supporters."

We have heard this mantra many times before but repetition does not make it true. A great deal has been learned about the potential of regenerative medicine since President Bush reached his "compromise" decision ending the stem-cell debate of 2001. And indeed, perhaps the time has come for us to revisit this issue, albeit from a different angle than suggested by ESCR boosters. Perhaps the problem with the Bush plan isn't that it provides too little federal money for ESCR, but too much  at least if our national goal is to find cures to diseases such as Alzheimer's, diabetes, and Parkinson's in the shortest period of time.

The media is so excited about the supposed potential of embryonic stem cells that it gives far too little attention to the many and serious problems associated with this potential source of regenerative medicine. Listening to the hype, one might think that ESCR is on the verge of tremendous success. But the hard truth is that it does not appear likely that embryonic stem cells will soon become the panacea that fervid supporters of the research often claim. For example:

In animal studies, embryonic-stem-cell treatments have been found to cause tumors. In one mouse study involving an attempt to treat Parkinson's-type symptoms, more than 20 percent of the mice died from brain tumors  this despite researchers reducing the number of cells administered from the usual 100,000 to 1,000.

Tissue rejection is another major hurdle to the use of embryonic stem cells in medical treatments. This is why ESCR is known as the gateway to human cloning, since one proposed way out of this potential dilemma is to create cloned embryos of patients being treated as a source of stem cells, a process known as "therapeutic cloning." Not coincidentally, many of the same proponents who are now urging increased funding for ESCR also advocate that we legalize and publicly fund therapeutic-cloning research, which many find immoral because it creates cloned human life for the sole purpose of experimentation and destruction.

Besides being immoral, therapeutic cloning also looks to be wildly impractical. For example, a recent report published by the National Academy of Sciences warned that it could cost in the neighborhood of $200,000 just to pay for the human eggs to derive one cloned human embryonic-stem-cell line.

The above is an excerpt. Please go to the full thread for an excellent rebuttal to Fox and the other lying liberals:

What the Heck Is Jim Caveziel Saying in That Video? [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

The Corner can end all suspense and officially confirm that in the commericial airing in St. Louis tonight Jim Caveziel says in Aramaic, "You betray me with a kiss." (Which is what a few readers, including one Aramaic student told The Corner last night.) As one source working to defeat Amendment 2 in Missouri explains (and if you've read Yuval Levin, our editorial, or any of my pieces on the issue you know this already): "It refers to the promises made on page one of the amendment that are betrayed on page 5. On page one Amendment 2 promises to ban human cloning and this is betrayed on page 5 where human cloning is enshrined in the Missouri constitution."

My sources from Washington University in St. Louis, endowed by the Danforth Foundation, which will benefit financially if this Amendment 2 is passed, say that it has moved its embryonic stem cell research facilities to undisclosed locations, and that the real goal of their SCNT research is to work out the difficulties regarding cloning an embryo, then a fetus, then a human being for the purpose of harvesting body parts for the rich and famous in search of living longer lives --- Orwellian but True.

These people need to be stopped dead in their tracks --- Now not Later !!!!!

Vote: NO on Amendment 2

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posted on 10/26/2006 11:41:18 AM PDT
by Uncle Chip
(That all may come to the knowledge of the truth, no matter how painful)

"...the real goal of their SCNT research is to work out the difficulties regarding cloning an embryo, then a fetus, then a human being for the purpose of harvesting body parts..." _______________________________

Think we're getting closer to the end of the end times?

As I understand it, the success with stem cells is with adult stem cells, such as those taken from cord blood, and embryonic stem cells have not been useful because they tend to mutate.

That is exactly what they know and it is even true with this SCNT research. But they suspect that this SCNT research is the doorway to "eternal life" --- Let's see if Missourians will wake up and wise up for God's sake !!!!

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posted on 10/26/2006 12:04:34 PM PDT
by Uncle Chip
(That all may come to the knowledge of the truth, no matter how painful)

I chose a more modest photo. Patricia IS a babe, talented, and it appears she thinks well on political and social issues. Maybe we can engage her and have another Bo Derek for our side. Conservative babes always are better looking than "theirs", so let's get 'em to join for their ideas and input as well as the eye candy.

My sources from Washington University in St. Louis, endowed by the Danforth Foundation, which will benefit financially if this Amendment 2 is passed, ...

I didn't know that Danforth's foundation was going to profit from this. What a WORM he has turned out to be.

I just found some new polling data. On October 12, our side was getting crushed 57%-27%, with 16% undecided. Now with all the ruckus, as of Tuesday the numbers had improved to 45% for and 36% against, with 18% undecided. Obviously, this is a HUGE trend in our favor. Now, if the Lord will grant us a few minutes without rain so that the new ad can air for the game ..... OTOH, maybe God is bringing us the rain to delay the ad so more national publicity can be raised, thus more Missourians will be paying attention. In any case, we need everyone's prayers that God will deliver our state from becoming the "Clone-Me" state.

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