The UN security council will shortly start its proceedings for a vote on a resolution supporting military action against the Gaddafi regime in Libya.

Here's the Guardian's latest coverage reporting today's meeting:

Britain, France and the US, along with several Arab countries, are to join forces to throw a protective ring around the Libyan rebel stronghold of Benghazi as soon as a UN security council vote on military action is authorised, according to security council sources.

The BGM-109 Tomahawk is a long-range, all-weather, subsonic cruise missile. Introduced by General Dynamics in the 1970s, it was designed as a medium- to long-range, low-altitude missile that could be launched from a submerged submarine. It has been improved several times and, by way of corporate divestitures and acquisitions, is now made by Raytheon. Some Tomahawks were also manufactured by McDonnell Douglas (now Boeing Defense, Space & Security).

Production history Manufacturer General Dynamics (initially)Raytheon/McDonnell Douglas Unit cost Approximately $569,000 (FY99 $) [1] Approximately $755,851.27 in 2011 dollars

On March 19, 2011, 112 Tomahawk missiles[7] were fired by U.S. and British forces against at least 20 Libyan targets around Tripoli and Misrata.[8] Just the cost of the missles alone was approximately US $84,560,000.Tomahawk - WIKI

Staggering.

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"Are events unfolding in Libya, Tunisia and Egypt more about petro-terrorism or about freedom and democracy? How much oil is there in North Africa? Who is in control of that oil? What is the relationship between the West and Muammar Gaddafi? Is he really the terrorist we've all been led to believe he is? Who is the Libyan "opposition" and who are the "rebels" we read about?" ......

..."In almost all western media accounts, the so-called "opposition" in Libya includes the unspecified, unnamed, unidentified "rebels" of the National Front for the Salvation of Libya (NFSL). These are not innocent 'pro-democracy' protestors who began with a 'peaceful sit-in' as reported by the New York Times and uncritically repeated everywhere else.

Reportage of atrocities in Darfur, Sudan (2003-20011) and Rwanda (1990-1994) was always blamed on the governments (Omar Bashir in Khartoum and Juvenal Habyarimana in Kigali) with no context to the foreign backed insurgency and intervention occurring, which in both cases involved the US, UK and Israel. Similarly, in Libya today, there is no context or history to the FNSL 'rebels': they are categorically presented as the good guys, no matter that they seem to have appeared out of thin air. No one explains who these people who are cited as sources by the New York Times or CNN or Democracy Now are."

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"Eight years to the day after his predecessor launched the first air strikes against Saddam Hussein's Iraq, President Barack Obama announced that American forces were once again attacking an Arab country.

Despite the fact that French warplanes struck the first blows, it is clear that this early phase of operations is an overwhelmingly American affair. All but a small number of cruise missiles have been fired from American ships and submarines.

But Mr Obama seems anxious that this not be interpreted as yet another American-led foray into the Arab world. The Pentagon says it will transfer command of Operation Odyssey Dawn in the coming days, almost certainly to Nato.

But that will happen only after the Americans have established that the first wave of attacks has done sufficient damage to Libya's air defences for a no fly zone to be safely patrolled."

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Sick, Pathetic, Occultish, Numerology Obsessed,

EVent Craving, Violent Maniacs.see that...

8 years to the day...the DAY...

I love it how they say it's an "American" affair..But who's pulling the strings and calling the "shots"?

Ask Helen Thomas she knows..she is a brave heroine..In the true sense of the word.And she really knows how to piss them off..With the honest Truth.

OBAMA: 'Today we are part of a broad coalition. We are answering the calls of a threatened people. And we are acting in the interests of the United States and the world'

MARCH 19, 2003 BUSH: 'American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger'

MARCH 24, 1999 BILL CLINTON: "...today our Armed Forces joined our NATO allies in airstrikes against Serbian forces responsible for the brutality in Kosovo. We have acted with resolve for several reasons. We act to protect thousands of innocent people in Kosovo from a mounting military offensive. We act to prevent a wider war, to diffuse a powder keg at the heart of Europe that has exploded twice before in this century with catastrophic results. And we act to stand united with our allies for peace. By acting now, we are upholding our values, protecting our interests, and advancing the cause of peace."

OBAMA: 'Today we are part of a broad coalition. We are answering the calls of a threatened people. And we are acting in the interests of the United States and the world'

MARCH 19, 2003 BUSH: 'American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger'

MARCH 24, 1999 BILL CLINTON: "...today our Armed Forces joined our NATO allies in airstrikes against Serbian forces responsible for the brutality in Kosovo. We have acted with resolve for several reasons. We act to protect thousands of innocent people in Kosovo from a mounting military offensive. We act to prevent a wider war, to diffuse a powder keg at the heart of Europe that has exploded twice before in this century with catastrophic results. And we act to stand united with our allies for peace. By acting now, we are upholding our values, protecting our interests, and advancing the cause of peace."

it is revolting, is it not, ada....that people who claim the name of Jesus can not see and hear this for what it is...and they link arms with the crypto-rabbis in their 501(c)3 masonically leavened southern baptist churches to overturn the New Testament, The New Covenant.

i am absolutely disgusted....ANOTHER WAR: for "democracy" - A MARXIST COUP IN AND OF ITSELF. war! war! war! for freedom and democracy!

meanwhile throw all truth down the memory hole and silence dissenters (or ANYONE who is still able to think for themselves).

Zone, i am now at a point where it hurts me bodily to see all this reckless actions.But as Jesus said this might only the beginning of travail.You want to cry out loud please please stop it for the sake of your childrenor whatever has been left holy to you.But the money cabalists are the drivingforce behind ritual materialism deceiving many into a virtual unreal world, satans world.Their artificial reality a big lie, THE cosmic lie, because they refuse to surrender to Jesus our only hope.

ada wrote:Zone, i am now at a point where it hurts me bodily to see all this reckless actions.But as Jesus said this might only the beginning of travail.You want to cry out loud please please stop it for the sake of your childrenor whatever has been left holy to you.But the money cabalists are the drivingforce behind ritual materialism deceiving many into a virtual unreal world, satans world.Their artificial reality a big lie, THE cosmic lie, because they refuse to surrender to Jesus our only hope.

This is why i dont vote.Not once did they take a vote from the people of America to vote weather we should go in and help the people of liba?/ Why vote. Your voice is not herd only for a man in power. The powers at hand do what and when they want. Not the people!! I have not see One politican who has Stopped Chemtrails eather? Much less a war.

zone wrote:it is revolting, is it not, ada....that people who claim the name of Jesus can not see and hear this for what it is...and they link arms with the crypto-rabbis in their 501(c)3 masonically leavened southern baptist churches to overturn the New Testament, The New Covenant.

i am absolutely disgusted....ANOTHER WAR: for "democracy" - A MARXIST COUP IN AND OF ITSELF. war! war! war! for freedom and democracy!

meanwhile throw all truth down the memory hole and silence dissenters (or ANYONE who is still able to think for themselves).

since when does Truth need MILITARY MIGHT?

Zone,,,,I'm gonna join you in feeling..just..at my wits end..absolutely disgusted and fed up. It's just unbelievable that this is how its gonna come down from now on. It's just so easy for them to go in with the bombs now...staggering.

The buzz all over cyberspace is just...a feeling of despair. It's happening all over again. We need a rogue stealth bomber to go and destroy the HAARP antennae array. We need armed forces servicemen and woman to say...I'm not gonna do this anymore.

Is this how low we have to go? How much worse is it gonna get? Has satan even been loosed yet? Is this just birth pangs? It's getting very difficult in many countries in the world. It's hard to discern now, what events are being manufactured and which are genuine uprisings.

PLEASE Christians out there.....STOP THROWING YOUR SUPPORT OUT FOR MILITARY ACTION. We should never be involved in it.

Lord Jesus come soon. Give satan his hour of domination and then come and end this mess. I know you are in ultimate control of all things, and everything is working according to your plan, but how many people will turn from your teachings and fall into the traps that you allow satan to set?

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Strangelove wrote:PLEASE Christians out there.....STOP THROWING YOUR SUPPORT OUT FOR MILITARY ACTION. We should never be involved in it.

Lord Jesus come soon. Give satan his hour of domination and then come and end this mess. I know you are in ultimate control of all things, and everything is working according to your plan, but how many people will turn from your teachings and fall into the traps that you allow satan to set?

"Let's talk about the mission," Wallace began. "You heard Admiral Mullen, earlier in the show, say his orders are clear: protect the civilians, don't overthrow Gaddafi. That's not the point. Is that a mistake? Can we live with Gaddafi in any sort of power? He can create a lot of trouble."

We seem to have forgotten the essential elements of the Reagan Administration's success: a military that is strong and ready to meet both present and future challenges; a foreign policy that boldly and purposefully promotes American principles abroad; and national leadership that accepts the United States' global responsibilities.

Of course, the United States must be prudent in how it exercises its power. But we cannot safely avoid the responsibilities of global leadership or the costs that are associated with its exercise. America has a vital role in maintaining peace and security in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. If we shirk our responsibilities, we invite challenges to our fundamental interests. The history of the 20th century should have taught us that it is important to shape circumstances before crises emerge, and to meet threats before they become dire. The history of this century should have taught us to embrace the cause of American leadership.

Our aim is to remind Americans of these lessons and to draw their consequences for today. Here are four consequences:

• we need to increase defense spending significantly if we are to carry out our globalresponsibilities today and modernize our armed forces for the future;• we need to strengthen our ties to democratic allies and to challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values;• we need to promote the cause of political and economic freedom abroad;• we need to accept responsibility for America's unique role in preserving and extending an international order friendly to our security, our prosperity, and our principles.

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In all the discussion about the current U.S. bombing of Libya, something important has gone almost unnoticed—the lesson the United States is teaching the government of every country on earth. That lesson is: no matter what, no matter the inducements or pressure, never ever give up chemical weapons or a nuclear weapons program. Doing so will not ensure that the U.S. does not attack you—on the contrary, it will make it much more likely.

The U.S. already delivered this lesson very powerfully in 2003 by attacking Iraq, a country which had no biological or chemical weapons or nuclear weapons program after 1991, twelve years earlier. Moreover, according to the CIA's 2004 WMD report, Saddam Hussein had begged the Clinton administration for better relations, promising that it would be Washington’s “best friend in the region bar none.” In fact, Iraq said that if it had a security relationship with the U.S., it would be inclined to permanently discard even the ambition for WMD.

In Libya's case, Moammar Gaddafi announced in December, 2003 that it was renouncing all WMD—Libya possessed chemical weapons, ballistic missiles and a nuclear weapons program—and inviting international inspectors to certify its compliance. The U.S. declared that this "demonstrates that, in a world of strong nonproliferation norms, it is never too late to make the decision to become a fully compliant NPT state," and that Libya would be "amply rewarded." From the perspective of many governments, Libya is now receiving its reward, in the form of hundreds of Tomahawk missiles and the likely downfall of the regime that agreed to disarm. http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/003470.html

Not to be offending brother i was just curious you know i don't understand slang..

Heheheh...sorry geezer...summink = something....

Ermm.....Kapner..I dunno. I didnt watch the video. I used to go to his site alot but thesedays I tend to steer clear of him. He just seems a bit fake to me. A bit showy. Also theres not too much love and compassion eminating out of him.

Then theres the Eastern Orthodox connection. If the guy is clued up on the way things work he's gotto be able to see that stuff is temple cult.

Just my take on the guy.

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Thanks doc but have you been on the street for the gospel like he does it.I believe him cause you can prove it bye the fruit he brings.He is not ashamed of the gospel as far as i see.And more important he really make the transition from a jew to a true Christian.As i said to zone just listen to the marc glen audio:revelation by an ex-jew.