My world is the dream world. To myself it is just called reality. But from your perspective it is as a dream. Some years ago our worlds were as one. It would still be so if it were not for a powerful revelation that split our worlds into two.

"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka

Verrrry interesting. I tried it years ago when it first came out but didn't know all this about it. TY.

Edit: How long does a bottle last you? I haven't gotten to directions yet. (If I order, I might more than one bottle.)

Quoting: Unit3

1 bottle (240 capsule) it last me 1 month and half. I take 3 capsule daily. I was diagnose with dyslexia and taking etherium gold it help me a lot.

Quoting: SandDollar

Did you experience any kind of detox with it?

Quoting: Unit3

None. But I have been experienced vivid dream every night. I used Chaol's Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality technique for a while (since June 2012) and with help of etherium gold it make easier to manifest for me. I don't know how I can explain it to you but my life in perspective as well physical being have been wonderful since I have been using Chaol's protocol.

"Again, the closer the dream world is the more dream-like your world will be until it "passes right through you". You could say, by then you have become something else entirely.

Or, more accurately, your perspective has shifted automatically.

(If it did not, you would not be able to perceive any changes.)

That's why I say there is nothing to do. Because there isn't. It happens automatically.

In the dream world you will more quickly realize how you create your reality."

If there is nothing to do and the perspective shifts automatically, then why are we trying to learn Ec?

Quoting: Unit3

That was the other Chaol ("Perpective (being) Chaol") made those statement. The current Chaol you have been talking to is perspective/reality Chaol.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17343289

What if it is automatic (which it is), but it occurs because of your involvement (which it does)?

Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.

My world is the dream world. To myself it is just called reality. But from your perspective it is as a dream. Some years ago our worlds were as one. It would still be so if it were not for a powerful revelation that split our worlds into two.

Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

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Verrrry interesting. I tried it years ago when it first came out but didn't know all this about it. TY.

Edit: How long does a bottle last you? I haven't gotten to directions yet. (If I order, I might more than one bottle.)

Quoting: Unit3

1 bottle (240 capsule) it last me 1 month and half. I take 3 capsule daily. I was diagnose with dyslexia and taking etherium gold it help me a lot.

Quoting: SandDollar

Did you experience any kind of detox with it?

Quoting: Unit3

None. But I have been experienced vivid dream every night. I used Chaol's Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality technique for a while (since June 2012) and with help of etherium gold it make easier to manifest for me. I don't know how I can explain it to you but my life in perspective as well physical being have been wonderful since I have been using Chaol's protocol.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1633800

Thank you. This is exciting. WhooHooo! I had been wondering if the whole body system needed attention since Chaol says Neuronics is throughout the cellular structure. (my paraphrase, I'll have to find the exact quote if I can.)

My life has changed too and I'm just getting started with Chaol.

For example, yesterday, there was a mild earthquake and loud boom reported about 6 miles from my home. I felt and heard NOTHING!!!!!

Earlier this year, before I met Chaol, I felt an earthquake almost this size that was 70 miles away! WHOOOOHOOOOO!

Chaol planted the seed in my mind that perception is over location. (again, my paraphrase.)

My world is the dream world. To myself it is just called reality. But from your perspective it is as a dream. Some years ago our worlds were as one. It would still be so if it were not for a powerful revelation that split our worlds into two.

Quoting: Unit3

Ecsys is the revelation. We are our perspective.

PGA

Quoting: Thoht

How did the revelation of Ecsys split the worlds?

"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka

My world is the dream world. To myself it is just called reality. But from your perspective it is as a dream. Some years ago our worlds were as one. It would still be so if it were not for a powerful revelation that split our worlds into two.

Quoting: Unit3

Ecsys is the revelation. We are our perspective.

PGA

Quoting: Thoht

How did the revelation of Ecsys split the worlds?

Quoting: Unit3

Understanding the mathematics of ecsys prime allowed for the divergence of perspectives.

"Again, the closer the dream world is the more dream-like your world will be until it "passes right through you". You could say, by then you have become something else entirely.

Or, more accurately, your perspective has shifted automatically.

(If it did not, you would not be able to perceive any changes.)

That's why I say there is nothing to do. Because there isn't. It happens automatically.

In the dream world you will more quickly realize how you create your reality."

If there is nothing to do and the perspective shifts automatically, then why are we trying to learn Ec?

Quoting: Unit3

That was the other Chaol ("Perpective (being) Chaol") made those statement. The current Chaol you have been talking to is perspective/reality Chaol.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17343289

Ummmm, okaaaay. Guess I need a little more information. How is there another Chaol and am I to disregard what he says?Thanks

Quoting: Unit3

Chaol created a ecsys model to remain here and answer questions while he was back in his world.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510303

Very interesting.

1) So why did this model I have been talking to have to leave then? 2) I had asked about the statement the "other" Chaol made. He says we will learn Ec automatically. Is this a true statement? 3) Or, if we learn it automatically, are you saying we still won't have knowledge of how we use it (such as now)?

"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka

My world is the dream world. To myself it is just called reality. But from your perspective it is as a dream. Some years ago our worlds were as one. It would still be so if it were not for a powerful revelation that split our worlds into two.

Quoting: Unit3

Ecsys is the revelation. We are our perspective.

PGA

Quoting: Thoht

How did the revelation of Ecsys split the worlds?

Quoting: Unit3

Understanding the mathematics of ecsys prime allowed for the divergence of perspectives.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510303

So some chose not to understand it and that's what made the split?

"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka

Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

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That was the other Chaol ("Perpective (being) Chaol") made those statement. The current Chaol you have been talking to is perspective/reality Chaol.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17343289

Ummmm, okaaaay. Guess I need a little more information. How is there another Chaol and am I to disregard what he says?Thanks

Quoting: Unit3

Chaol created a ecsys model to remain here and answer questions while he was back in his world.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510303

Very interesting.

1) So why did this model I have been talking to have to leave then? 2) I had asked about the statement the "other" Chaol made. He says we will learn Ec automatically. Is this a true statement? 3) Or, if we learn it automatically, are you saying we still won't have knowledge of how we use it (such as now)?

Quoting: Unit3

The most recent conversations with Chaol have been with the original Chaol. There was a stand-in for a while. I forget exactly when that was now. I'm sure someone will supply the dates. This recent Chaol that you've got to know chose to leave to use the nexus point as an opportunity - 'cosmic surfing', I think Cat called it :)

I remember Chaol saying we don't have to learn Ecsys, so I never really bothered. However, with the recent meeting in the dream world exercise, he told LeKing it was beneficial.

Hope this is helpful. It must be a bit confusing to learn there have been more than one Chaol!

Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

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Ummmm, okaaaay. Guess I need a little more information. How is there another Chaol and am I to disregard what he says?Thanks

Quoting: Unit3

Chaol created a ecsys model to remain here and answer questions while he was back in his world.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510303

Very interesting.

1) So why did this model I have been talking to have to leave then? 2) I had asked about the statement the "other" Chaol made. He says we will learn Ec automatically. Is this a true statement? 3) Or, if we learn it automatically, are you saying we still won't have knowledge of how we use it (such as now)?

Quoting: Unit3

The most recent conversations with Chaol have been with the original Chaol. There was a stand-in for a while. I forget exactly when that was now. I'm sure someone will supply the dates. This recent Chaol that you've got to know chose to leave to use the nexus point as an opportunity - 'cosmic surfing', I think Cat called it :)

I remember Chaol saying we don't have to learn Ecsys, so I never really bothered. However, with the recent meeting in the dream world exercise, he told LeKing it was beneficial.

Hope this is helpful. It must be a bit confusing to learn there have been more than one Chaol!

Quoting: Marshwiggle

Yes, this was a new twist I knew nothing about. It was very confusing until you explained it. Thank you so much for that. It fills in the gaps for me quite well.

I really like this Chaol so I'm glad to hear the other was a stand-in. As a side note, I am placing symbols wherever you go. ;o) I would love to surprise Chaol before he gets back. Heh!

"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka

Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

Very interesting.

1) So why did this model I have been talking to have to leave then? 2) I had asked about the statement the "other" Chaol made. He says we will learn Ec automatically. Is this a true statement? 3) Or, if we learn it automatically, are you saying we still won't have knowledge of how we use it (such as now)?

Quoting: Unit3

you have never talked to the model. You came to the thread after Chaol returned. You already use EC all the time naturally. You are slowly gaining an understanding of it's use. Keep up the good work.

Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

Very interesting.

1) So why did this model I have been talking to have to leave then? 2) I had asked about the statement the "other" Chaol made. He says we will learn Ec automatically. Is this a true statement? 3) Or, if we learn it automatically, are you saying we still won't have knowledge of how we use it (such as now)?

Quoting: Unit3

you have never talked to the model. You came to the thread after Chaol returned. You already use EC all the time naturally. You are slowly gaining an understanding of it's use. Keep up the good work.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

Thank you. I appreciate it.

Can I learn I create my perceptions through learning how to use the Genius? Or, is it only through learning the language that I will see this?

"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka

Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

Ahhhh! ;o)

Yes, I'm thinking of a more "live' technology. I thought maybe my Genius could help either bring it from your world or at least get ours more advanced to close the gap somewhat.

And I'm counting on intuition to tell me when it's "the" technology resulting from my Genius.

Quoting: Unit3

hehe.. me thinks there would be a severe "culture shock".

I get it, too, if I go someplace new.

Our most valuable technology, in my opinion, is use of the neuronicons. Though this may take some time to understand, there's nothing you cannot do with it.

Quoting: Chaol

I was thinking there might be way for a new technology to download it to the human mind?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9834739

Me too. That's why I was posting about technology recently.

Also, I guess I'll go ahead and bring this up. I had a friend who had a library downloaded to his mind. He said he will never have to read a book again. Wonder if we can make a Genius for something like this?

"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka

Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

Very interesting.

1) So why did this model I have been talking to have to leave then? 2) I had asked about the statement the "other" Chaol made. He says we will learn Ec automatically. Is this a true statement? 3) Or, if we learn it automatically, are you saying we still won't have knowledge of how we use it (such as now)?

Quoting: Unit3

you have never talked to the model. You came to the thread after Chaol returned. You already use EC all the time naturally. You are slowly gaining an understanding of it's use. Keep up the good work.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

Thank you. I appreciate it.

Can I learn I create my perceptions through learning how to use the Genius? Or, is it only through learning the language that I will see this?