Interesting that they're not offering that new load in a 2 3/4" 12ga hull in a 25 rd box, only 3" and 3.5". Not pertinent for 16 discussion, but interesting regardless. It would also be great if they would offer it in 2.5" hulls in 12 and 16ga. If they did, there would be no need to reload.

Interesting, no 12 ga 2 3/4 inch waterfowl loads, just the 4s in upland. I stocked up on the #4s this year for my model 21, but would be nice to have larger shot options. That's why I am hand loading #1 shot for geese.

Wow, that is a bummer-- they DID have #4 bismuth 16 ga listed, and sure enough now it's gone... that was clearly the "best" 16ga commercial duck load out there IMO, or was going to be... the remaining #5 and #6 upland loads just don't have enough range for ducks to make them worth the cost, can do as well with #3 steel.

The price at Midway is a good deal compared to previous prices, but if the prices on huntstuff.com stay the same when the shells become available that is an even better price.
I do not understand some of their pricing. For example, in waterfowl a 12 ga 2 3/4 1 1/4 load of #4s is $320/case, but in upland the same load, available in 4,5,6s is $373/case. Same speed looks to be the same shell, except for shot sizes.