[bookshare-discuss] Re: Covers

From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>

To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:07:27 -0700 (PDT)

Too often the back cover of both paperbacks and
hardbounds is reviews or cudos for the book or,
sometimes author bios. In the latter case I put that
at the end; often it's on a final page in the book
anyway.
But I've found covers impossible to scan. I usually
just type the info myself. I try to approximate the
font size, but that isn't necessary, and anyway if the
type is too large certain readers--I don't remember if
it's Braille or some other technology--can't read it.
I think I was told some time ago n ot to use anything
large than 36 point. However, it really doesn't
matter. Just the title and author can be typed on a
page as if it is the cover, even if there is an inner
title page, too.
And Jill is right; even with short or long synopses,
and many people don't include them, it's nice to have
the flap. In my work at the library, I find myself
reading the cover flaps and either adding the book to
my list of books to read or deciding no, I don't want
this one even if the cover has intrigued me. Last
Friday I found two more, neither of which is in the
bookshare collection: Engaged to Murder, a nonfiction
book in which a principal and an English teacher were
convicted of killing the English teacher's fiancee and
her two children; and Bread-givers, which is about
fairly modern Jewish girls not wanting to marry men
their old-fashioned and strict father chooses for
them; I think one girl goes off on her own. Both, from
my skimming through a couple of pages, seem readable.
Some books sound interesting tome but when I look at a
couple of pages the writing seems tedious.
Cindy
--- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Okay, I see. That is the back cover in a paperback,
> but it is the insides
> of the front and back covers in a hardback. I
> always put that in, even
> though it can take some work to get it to come out
> right. Often, it is dark
> on light, and despite K1000's overall excellence, if
> I optimize scan on the
> text somewhere inside the book, the dust jacket info
> sometimes comes out
> garbled, with stuff missing, or in one case, it told
> me the page was blank
> even though it was full of dark print on a light
> background. I had to
> fiddle with scanner settings quite a bit before it
> would come out (mostly).
> (Yes, I indeed had it set to recognize dark text on
> a light background.) It
> just confirms what all my experience has shown: OCR
> is a lot better than it
> used to be, but it still can't equal an Optacon. If
> I could read faster
> with it, I might not scan at all.
>
> Anyhow, I have a few hardbacks here, and I never
> considered looking at the
> outside back cover of one. Jeepers! I should at
> least see what is on one
> or two of them. Probably marketing fluff.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Julie & Miss Mercy" <mercy421@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:53 AM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Covers
>
>
> The back cover is the book jacket, and that's what I
> scan. I don't even try
> to scan the front cover or anything else, but
> the back cover does contain the synopsis, usually,
> or the book jacket...what
> you'll find on the pages NLS labels as the Book
> Jacket information. That's on the back cover, so
> that's what I scan. Take
> care.
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> Evan Reese wrote:
> > I always put the dust jacket info in my
> submissions, just after the title
> > page and copyright info, which usually appears on
> the following page.
> > That is the way NLS does it, and it seems as
> logical to me as any other
> > method. But I never considered scanning the
> outside covers of hardbacks,
> > or the front covers of paperbacks. What
> information do they contain that
> > isn't on the title page, except for perhaps
> pictures that wouldn't scan
> > anyhow?
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie & Miss
> Mercy"
> > <mercy421@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:32 AM
> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Covers
> >
> >
> > Hi, Cindy. I think the same way you do about
> covers, and that's why, in
> > books I scan, the cover material is scanned first
> if
> > it will scan at all. A sighted reader sees the
> cover first and often reads
> > the book jacket as one way of deciding if it's
> > something they want to read, so it stands to
> reason, at least to my way of
> > thinking, that the cover material should be
> > first...but that's just me and certainly no
> official rule. <smile> Take
> > care.
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> > Cindy wrote:
> >> I'm sure someone else is answering this too, but
> >> I'llput in my two-cents worth.
> >>
> >> No, it doesn't matter. In fact, many people don't
> put
> >> in cover info. They start with the title page or,
> in
> >> the case of paperbacks, other front page
> material.
> >>
> >> When I validate, I put "cover" in brackets and
> put
> >> the cover info. As sighted reader, I like to see
> the
> >> cover first, although some hardbound have the
> covers
> >> mssing. I know "you can't tell a book by it's
> cover,"
> >> but still...and I figure, even though bookshare
> >> members download books and know what they're
> getting,
> >> they might like to read the cover info--but maybe
> >> that's just me. smile
> >>
> >> Cindy
> >>
> >> --- Tony Baechler <bookshare@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi all. I have a quick question. When scanning
> >>> books, is the condition of the cover important?
> I'm looking at
> >>> some books with warn or rubbed covers. If
> necessary, I can get them
> >>> with better covers but I'm wondering if it
> matters. Carrie
> >>> would be scanning them with the high speed
> scanner and the spine would
> >>> be chopped anyway so I don't see that it would
> matter but I'm
> >>> interested in the best scanned copies possible.
> >>>
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