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Topic Review (Newest First)

09-22-2010 07:30 AM

timothale

new paints are BAD

new low VOC paints made the situation worse. In the old days the fumes did not cause as much damage to you, \THEY WERE STILL DANGEROUS. a little bit of the fumes would evaporate out of your lungs, when you breathed. they would still make you dizzy, cause liver damage. etc.

09-22-2010 07:18 AM

shine

i use bullard hoods. i cant stand the mask at all. hoods are cheap and disposable. you get cool air at your neck which helps keep you cool. i can wear my walkman under it and listen to tunes while i paint.

09-21-2010 09:18 PM

roger1

Quote:

Originally Posted by detroitiron

After using a forced air flow full face mask over normal cartige masks, the difference is unbeatable. You get the cool fresh air across your face that cuts down on sweat in your eyes, prevents fog on your glasses and generally keeps you fume free if you have a good seal.

What full face mask do you use? The ones I have looked at wont fit over eyeglasses and require that you get special lenses made for an optional eyepiece that is made for the mask.

09-21-2010 10:00 AM

302 Z28

With inadequate airflow even new activated carbon filters will quickly become saturated and useless. You have inhaled dangerous levels of isocyanate's and you need to seek medical attention. That stuff will catalyze in your lungs.

Years ago when I decided to do my own painting I invested in a Hobby Air pressurized fresh air system. Cost was about what I would spend on one inexpensive paint job (under $400) and was cheap insurance. Although it doesn't protect your skin it sure protects your lungs.

09-20-2010 06:48 PM

TucsonJay

Don't be afraid of spraying! Just be smart about it.

Your body absorbs isocyanates... but never can get rid of them. One day your throat or tongue will swell up. That means you can't take any more. I have had a few friends have this happen. Oe swithced to lacquer... and paints only classic cars. another bought a full suit, and still paints part time.

I have been painting cars since I was 15, in 1964... painting full time since '86.... an still haven't had "the reaction" yet. I DO use a remote air mask, so I am not trying to filter anything out of the air, because it's not even there. Why take a chance?

09-20-2010 06:38 PM

eloc431962

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinger

More importantly, what kind of paint. Google the type of paint and MSDS to find what you may up against. Or look on the cans label.

You got that right, And there is supposed to be a MSDS sheet on all chemicals. Or as stated check the can. Go to the Doc also you never know just reading this post makes my eyes water and my throat is starting to hurt.

Cole

09-20-2010 05:47 PM

detroitiron

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sauces62

Ive used this mask before when I jammed my Cadillac and didnt have this problem.

Yep, found the problem. A used mask.

Gotta watch out for clears, some have additives that act like a magnet towards moisture. (ex. Your eyes, mouth, lungs)

After using a forced air flow full face mask over normal cartige masks, the difference is unbeatable. You get the cool fresh air across your face that cuts down on sweat in your eyes, prevents fog on your glasses and generally keeps you fume free if you have a good seal.

09-20-2010 05:44 PM

swvalcon

charcoal fillers like 3-m are good for 40 hrs of use. Thats if you leave them in the open . Thats why they tell you to put them in a air tight container when not in use. Extends the life of mask

09-20-2010 04:35 PM

Rambo_The_Dog

Charcoal filters will degrade when exposed to oxygen - period.

Thats why if you had a business, by law, you have to store your respirators in a sealed container when not in use. OSHA can fine up to 10k if they find a respirator laying out improperly.

I switched years ago to a supplied air system...after you add up all the costs for cartridge, and pre-filter replacements and given the superiority and SAFETY of having a dedicated air supply - its priceless

If you have to use a cartidge based respirator, a properly fitted full face design is something like 400-500x better protection than a 1/2 face model.

09-20-2010 04:11 PM

V8 Super Beetle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sauces62

I used the one the guy at auto industrial said to. Mask is 3M 7503 and the filters are 3M 6001 NIOSH
I used a pcl sealer then a matrix white base followed by a wet pearl in clear binder the 3 coats of euro glass clear. Im pretty sure it was the clear. when i coughed i could taste it faintly

It's possible that after doing all that spraying, using the same filters, the filter became saturated. Be sure next time to use some fresh filters after so many hours of spraying. It's hard to tell after how long to replace them, but the package says something like every 8 hours is saturated areas. Ever 40 hours in a low saturated areas. Don't quote me. Seems like you would've fallen in the high saturation category for filter replacement.

What little spraying I have done I make sure to do it with the garage door wide open. I used 5 rolls of screen material, $5 at Lowes, and some duct tape to cover the opening of the garage and to help keep bugs out. It possibly helps catch overspray as well. Seems to work well.

09-20-2010 03:47 PM

V8 Super Beetle

Quote:

Originally Posted by chevymike

Man, this is the stuff that scares the whole crap out of me when I keep thinking of doing my own paint.

Good luck man.

I agree. I hope it all turns out well.

09-20-2010 03:05 PM

adantessr

Go see a doctor , now ! I painted one coat of paint with the wrong cartridges that a buddy gave me and I was alergic to any aerosol (even hairspray) for 15 years afterwards . This paining business is serious business . Let us know what the doctor says . You may need to call the poison control center . I'd bring the MSDS sheets with me to the doctor, also

09-20-2010 02:41 PM

milo

don't worry , you'll be ok .. all a doctor will do is say don't do it again or get a better mask etc. etc ..

doctors are way over rated , besides you said you already have common sence and that's not common.

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