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Should Arsenal now play kids against Dinamo Zagreb?

In Arsenal’s first two Champions League games against Zagreb and Olympiakos, Arsene Wenger played practically his full reserve team and still expected to win both of them. But, as we found out, we lost all six points and now have a mountain to climb to qualify out of the Group and into knockout stages.

In fact if you look at this excellent mathematical prediction chart from BonusCodeBets,you can see that the Gunners have just a 37.76% chance of progressing, while Olympiakos have a 62.68% chance of going through. It is a sad fact that even if we win, our chances totally hinge on the game in Munich where we want to see Olympiakos get soundly beaten. A draw will scupper our chances completely.

Looking at the tired remnants of our first team squad yesterday struggling against West Brom, should we even risk playing all of them on Tuesday? Wenger can hardly call on his reserves even because we are sadly lacking in making two teams out of our uninjured players, so should we just give all our youth players a run out in Europe’s most prestigious competition, and save our first team players for next weekend?

You never know, they may actually win, and if Olympiakos get beaten in Germany as well then we can put out our first team in the last game in Greece and try and win by the neccesary two goals to make sure we finish in the top two.

Personally I think we are flogging a dead horse, and more importantly, risking getting even more injuries to the players we can ill afford to lose for the weekend. Can you imagine if Ozil or Sanchez join the ranks of our walking wounded? We may as well as just give up on the League right now if that happens. Remember when we lost both Oxlade-Chamberlain and Walcott in a meaningless League Cup match just a few weeks ago….

@Greg
Exactly. Otherwise it’s a punk move to bow out and concede. Because if we don’t go out to win our remaining matches, it’s Thurs. night football for us, which will make winning the League even more of an impossible task….

I’m in with Greg, whilst there is a minute left we won’t give up the fight. If we bow out players will be down, but if we win our last 2 games and go through it will be a massive lift for the club. Then by the time the knockout stages start we should have every player back from injury and hopefully a signing or two.

What a stupid post to put up, why don’t you just toss a coin as you sure aren’t a soccer player. They always want to get out there and do there thing, the same with most sportsman its in there blood and you no what they just don’t know how not to give it there all. Your the type that raises the White flag before fist shot fired CB

Currently no, he’s going through the annual phase of delusion, keep relying on Sanchez instead of calling Gnabry back from his loan and using Jeff. Just wait and see, in January we’ll have no LW because he’ll be burnt out and Welbeck will have an injury setback thus reducing our goal threat and making us top 4 contenders instead of title challengers.

If you ask me settling for last in the group is the best option for us. The last thing we need is coming third in the group and finding ourselves playing Thursday night football. It will deal our league campaign a hard blow. So I say yes, use the youngsters, if we win then we can let the big dogs out in the last game.

Next weekend is Norwich on Sunday and Zagreb on tuesday. Gabriel comes in for Le Coq. Back 5 stay the same or give chambers a go insteadof Mert and push Bellerin to RW, debuchy RB. Ozil behind Campbell(bellerin) Giroud Alexis, if all is going pear shaped in Germany with Olympicos throw on the kids for Alexis, Ozil n Santi. Adelide, Iwobi n Beilik see how they do! We should be able to do this anyway if we rip them apart like we did Utd but this is Arsenal, never know which team is going to appear! We can win it have no doubt but its not even in our hands, its in Bayern Munichs tbh they have to beat Olympicos… draw and wer in the Europa if we beat Dynamo!!

Then to Olympicos where we have never won!! Have to win by 2clear goals also… if we do get through then well done scraping through but i just dont see the fairytale ending for Arsenal. If we go into the last 16 and all our injuries are back then you never know… but will be a blockbuster tie as we always make things hard for ourselves!

OT: Watched a video on ArsenalFanTV, whoever laughed at Claude saying spurs could be contenders maybe need to take a we look at what they are doing so far in the league! Very impressed espeially with such a young team, we maybe do need to watch the spuds abit closer this year!!

I think Arsenal have enough to play a good team and still rotate a bit. Arsenal lost in Zagreb due to a bogus sending off, as is so often the case with English teams playing away in the CL. The Gunners should field;
Cech
Gibbs, Gabriel, Koscielny, Debuchy
Flamini, Chambers
Campbell, Ozil, Iwobi
Giroud

Ospina should start if he’s fit. He played well for long stretches last season proving he is a quality stopper. If not, Cech can play. Gooners should have confidence in both. Ospina made mistakes last time out, but Cech started his Gunner life with a couple of howlers, but he’s been a beast since.

Gibbs is not really a rotation. If Monreal was not playing so well, he would slot in as first choice and do just as well. He is a fine footballer and should be England’s starting left back. (He won’t be because Roy Hodgson is a moron, but that’s another rant) Gabriel and Mertesacker should be able to do the job in the middle, but Koscielny should play if he wants to.

Play Flamini in the central midfield role and Chambers as DM, and flip flop as needed. Flamini’s brace showed he can score when he’s free to move forward. He’s also fresh and fiesty as ever.

In midfield, Campbell is showing some quality but is clearly rusty. His miss against West Brom speaks to his lack of playing time rather than an inablity to finish. Leave Ozil in the middle to feed Campbell, and rest Alexis.

Giroud is in fine form and should remain up front, especially since the alternative, Campbell, will be playing on the wing.

In this set up Alexis, Cazorla, Bellerin and Mertesacker get rested, but there is plenty of quality out there to win the match.

my christmas wishes
wenger and kroenke go to jail
Bring back vieira and bergkamp
sell/release flamini arteta mertz debuchy campbell
hire ancelloti/leow/simeone
If you can grant me these wishes i will be a very happy man

Wenger has gone for a six like in the cricket. Well the injuries would start at end of January but they are just started to pill-up already. I would love for Arsenal to face Barca and the way they would destruct the team just like Real Madrid I want Arsenl to lose by a margin the Emirates when Messi sends half of the team into retirement where Arsenal would qualify somehow and get Barca. This website has had many supporting Wenger today when you lose the most important player Coquelin I want to see that man say again with the same confidence on his internal solutions phrase. The winter is the last transfer to prove his worth and I can’t wait anymore to see Arsenal lose like this and wait for a league success. There is a point where a chance comes to ask whether are the they up for it? They are weak,fragile,disorganised. Simply put what is there to talk about when a team like Leicester run their hearts out concealing yet not losing hope.

Yet, we beat Leicester in their own backyard and that remains their only defeat in the premier league, so far.
Fair play to them and their manager…. If we don’t win it,
I hope they do! ( the league)

None of us know what kind of demons lurk in Wenger’s mind, i say that Because at the moment it seems as if he is doing more harm than good to the club.
Okay, I’m not saying that he is deliberately doing it, but his belief’s, reasoning and decision making is not helping the team move forward in footballing terms, even though he is earning the club a 💩 load of money! It’s not benefiting the football loving fan’s, as it is not spent on improving the team.

Talking of love, I’m not suggesting that wenger doesn’t love Arsenal fc, I’m sure that he does, but some people can show their love in an affectionate and caring way, Whilst others can only show it by throwing money at it and I believe that wenger fits into the second category!

Hence £200 million in funds available! With no care or affection for the team!

Wenger has gone for a six like in the cricket. Well the injuries would start at end of January but they are just started to pill-up already. I would love for Arsenal to face Barca and the way they would destruct the team just like Real Madrid I want Arsenl to lose by a margin the Emirates when Messi sends half of the team into retirement where Arsenal would qualify somehow and get Barca. This website has had many supporting Wenger today when you lose the most important player Coquelin I want to see that man say again with the same confidence on his internal solutions phrase. The winter is the last transfer to prove his worth and I can’t wait anymore to see Arsenal lose like this and wait for a league success. There is a point where a chance comes to ask whether are the they up for it? They are weak,fragile,disorganised. Simply put what is there to talk about when a team like Leicester run their hearts out conceading goals yet not losing hope.

All this deep depression in this column is down to one man
Mr Wenger,the shareholders may be happy but the fans are not.
Your decision not to reinforce our outfield was a bad mistake. Us fans new it but the decision maker, YOU,didn’t. If by January some of the injured are not back you do have a chance to rectify your bad judgment. Swallow your pride and reinforce.

unfortunately the world of modern football is leaving wenger behind at the moment we are in need of a more aggressive modern manager that can aggressively move in the market to sort out the problems we have klopp is already showing his pedigree in the league and he hasn’t even dipped int eh market yet. we need to move with the times its a young mans game now with the latest breed in charge now.

Here’s the thing, Wenger deserves most of the blame for our current situation. Look he’s negligent for not bringing in an outfield player in the summer. I understand that we have a full roster, but to be fair Flamini should’ve bee let got, Arteta can’t play more than 35 minutes should’ve been sold, I love Rosicky, but he too should’ve been shipped off, and I’m sorry Campbell does not look the part. It’s pathetic looking at our bench; a left back has to play in midfield, no cover for the cover for the cover at the CDM, and we say that we are challenging, for what. everyone said that a coq. injury was going to happen and Wenger should/must purchase suitable backup, but I guess it’s typical Wenger, ignores anyone who dare to tell him their perspective. Now we are a month and change before the winter transfer season, and to be honest, I have no expectation. Wenger is going to say 1) we have so and so coming back, only for so and so to have a setback on February 1st 2) There’s no one available, when everyone’s available if you’re going to pay the money. Look it’s all rederick, and its so eerily frustrating. CAN’T WAIT FOR THE SUMMER OF 2017 #NEWPERSPECTIVE#NEWDIRECTION.

If football is said not be mathematics as some have calculated, the solution arrived at could be wronged or turnout to be correct. But the problem with the result of a football match is, it’s outcome is not certain. Moreso for a team like Arsenal Gunners who you can’t put your money on them to get you a good result with total confidence, like you would put your money on Barca, Bayern Munich and PSG and they will transport you far in the Ucl than Arsenal would. But still yet, the Boss has to avoid committing abortion as he has had 3 miscarriages already in this competition. The Boss MUST field his strongest available starting XI against Zagreb on Tuesday night to avoid committing abortion by fielding most of his under 21 players as being tailored in some quarters. Arsenal SHOULD leave the outcome of the Bayern Munich home game Against Olympiakos to Providence. The game may end in a draw as Olympiakos will fight to get such a result or fail to get it. If they fail, then Arsenal still have a chance. It’s that chance I don’t want the Boss to abort. But if it’s miscarriaged we’ll accept our fate.

Winning always build confidence , not losing with youngster and hiding the experience players who will and can get injured at any time, it is best we continue playing as best as we can with what we have and pray for january.

i expect the dame 11 except for the injured DM, which could be flamini/chambers/Bielik and Gibbs/jeff/campbell as the left midfielfer