possession, penetration, combination play, off the ball runs, diamond midfield, wingbacks, flat 4 or stopper/sweeper, short corners, direct play, overloading a side or switch the play or both, do you pressure full field or retreat in your own half, how many options are ideal with the person on the ball, do you play into space or to foot, do you have your outside backs overlap your wings to create space, do you play an early ball to the back post for that runner?, do you play through the middle or use the flanks, if you suspect a long back from the back do you pressure or drop back

just a few tactical decisions and formations in soccer, I can name more if you wish

And I know all that, why do you assume I have no idea about soccer?
Formations can be translated to team builds in GW2. There are quite a few more "formations" in GW2 than soccer (which makes it more complex and that works the other way around, makes soccer simpler).

Most options in soccer(any real sport actually) are binary "playing in the foot vs in the field", "go through the sides or through mid",... Which are very easy to understand and respond to. Compare that to chess where you have infinite amounts of possibilities.

Now let's (for giggles) that chess is the most complex "sport" out there and let's compare soccer, GW2 and SC2 to how similar they are to chess (and thus how complex they are). It's probably quite obvious that SC2 is most like chess, then GW2 and lastly soccer. Meaning that in comparision to sports soccer (and as said earlier most real sports) are rather simple.

The number of starting positions in soccer are finite, in chess they're infinite...

see you make flippant comments like that and then it's hard to take you serious on any topic that you actually know something about

"You shouldn't make comments you know nothing about" is a statement I agree on, but when you say that make sure you actually know significantly more than the person you're addressing. That isn't the case so that's why I advise you to not make stupid comments like that.

Its like Messi telling Ronaldo off. Which you probably agree on is quite silly...

P.S.:You seem to be having a very bad day and are taking everything very poorly. Maybe your bloodsugar is low so I advise you to eat something, preferably something with sugar like cookies.

I wasn't being patronizing at all, you're simply taking everything as an insult even though I'm not trying to insult you.

@bovinity, I have no clue what you're talking about. I'm genuinely trying to help doozer...

I would probably rely more on posting intelligently like normal instead of trying to be funny (I assume that was an attempt to be funny) and certainly avoid demeaning a sport people are passionate about in such an childish way, definitely your worst post you've done, just take it as a learning experience. I certainly wont bother discussing football, you clearly have no clue. LEave the stupid posts to people like me.

The depth of soccer is also quite minimal and the only real "tactics" are falling for penalties and putting your entire team on defense after you've scored...

Just posted this on my football forum, lets just say the response were incredulity/laughter at just how bad it is.

Just posted this on my football forum, lets just say the response were incredulity/laughter at just how bad it is.

If I really wanted to belittle a sport's complexity I'd make a remark about the average IQ of pro-soccer players(and any other "real" sport). I didn't do this for a very simple reason, I don't mean to insult people.

The reason I talk about diving and the italian defense is because one clearly shows the tactical mind of the player and the other shows the tactical form of a team. I could've made a lengthy post talking about positioning and what not but not everyone is into soccer so explaining it all is rather hard in comparison to a simplification. Another example would've been running in at the right time to put another player off-side but then you have to explain off-side to people who have 0 knowledge of soccer.

IMO the main reason people responded poorly is because I use the term "soccer" instead of the common (European) name of "football". To clarify: I do this so that our American readers know I'm not talking about American Football.

If I post that pong is a simple game in the pong forums I'm pretty sure the response will be laughter too...

bad alternative at the end, really bad. Amway shits getting derailed, ill leave it as a it is. in response to shout casting I rarely enjoy or have any interest in what most commentators say, it's all a bit ott to me.

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