143 comments

@Roy
Our Minister for Manpower, Tan Chuan Jin, has clarified a lot of points about CPF that you previously demanded to know – and it is now clearer than ever that many of your numbers and assumptions are wrong.

Your response to his clarifications was to post a link to one of your previous posts that contains those same incorrect numbers and assumptions. This can only mean that you are a liar or you are calling Tan Chuan Jin a liar!

FARK YOU! WHY DON’T YOU ASK LKY WHETHER HE LIED WHEN HE SAID GIC DID NOT INVEST IN OUR CPF?
HOW ABOUT ASKING THARMAN WHETHER HE LIED WHEN HE SAID THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH INVESTMENT DECISIONS MADE BY GIC? SO WHO IS THE LIAR? YOU?

@FARK PAP
I question Roy on one point and you bring up two other points where he is also a liar – amazing!

READ the same articles Roy posts as proof is “LKY said” and you will see clearly that LKY said CPF money does not go directly into GIC nor does GIC have direct access to CPF money – and this is 100% correct.

Also, to understand what Tharman meant requires a basic understanding of how a Board Of Directors would “direct” a business and does not make day-to-day decisions – that is what the management does. I suppose this may be something you don’t understand so I can forgive your ignorance in this case.

“…you will see clearly that LKY said CPF money does not go directly into GIC nor does GIC have direct access to CPF money – and this is 100% correct.” – Oracle

Are you the same Attorney General \who claimed that the 1997 Cheng San GRC polling day incident didn’t happen? – “Plainly, a person inside a polling station cannot be said to be within a radius of 200 metres of a polling station.”

I suggest you demand Tan Chuan Jin (better still LHL) to have a televised debate with Roy on CPF issues on national TV. Then we will see WHO the liar is. If TCJ/LHL are honest as you seem to think, they should be happy to discredit Roy on national TV once and for all, right? (Hmm… Roy was disinvited to a public CPF forum organized by a spineless MP not long ago… PAP seems to be afraid of debating Roy publicly and prefer sending cronies like you to this blog.)

What a load of rubbish and stop trying to change the subject! The fact is Roy is a liar and he HAS NO ANSWER to my question. I’m pretty sure neither TCJ or LHL is ever going to dignify Roy’s lies by debating anything with him – and rightly so!

If Roy would stick to the facts he can still make a good case for doing more for those who need help in our society – but he can’t seem to stop himself exaggerating and casting false accusations – and ultimately damaging the very message he should be trying to deliver.

Stick to the facts Roy! Look, 50% of 55 year olds not having the CPF minimum sum is still significant even if it is not Roy’s 90% – it is simply stupidity/pig headedness to keep quoting incorrect numbers in this case. Roy’s followers have the cheek to constantly insult anybody who questions Roy by calling them PAPigs – but Roy is the one who is pig headed!

FARK YOU! SINCE WHEN DID INTERFERE BECOME MAKING DAY-TO-DAY DECISIONS? DON’T TRY TO WIGGLE YOUR WAY OUT LIKE A WORM. INTERFERE MEANS TO INFLUENCE. BOARD OF DIRECTORS SET INVESTMENT DIRECTIONS AND HENCE INFLUENCE THE INVESTMENT DECISIONS.
WHEN LKY SAY GIC HAS NO DIRECT ACCESS TO CPF, WHAT HE OBVIOUSLY AND PURPOSELY LEFT OUT AND DID NOT SAY IS THAT GIC HAS INDIRECT ACCESS TO CPF. IF HE IS NOT TRYING TO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC, WHAT THEN IS HE TRYING TO TELL US?
SO, I SAY, FARK YOU ORACLE. FARK YOUR WRIGGLING WORM ARGUMENT. WHEN THE PAP OMIT IMPORTANT FACTS WHEN PRESENTING THEIR CASE, IT IS NO DIFFERENCE FROM LYING. WHAT MORE WHEN THEY INSIST THEIR VERSION IS THE HARD TRUTH WHEN IT IS FAR FROM THE CASE. SO ARE YOU A LIAR?

@FARK PAP
The “lies” you accuse the PAP of are based on reading between the lines and assigning actions and words to people that were never done or said – or that you have zero proof of being done or said!

Roy, on the other hand, is now guilty of outright lies. Many of his numbers are wrong – period. He can choose to keep spreading his lies or he can correct his numbers. Until he corrects his numbers – let me explain it to you in your language – FARK ROY!

FARK YOU! I AM READING FROM A LAYMAN PERSPECTIVE AND YOU ARE THE ONE TRYING TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES AND BLUFF YOUR WAY THROUGH. EVEN THE STRAITS TIMES ADMIT THE LIES AS MUCH BY HEADLINING THEIR NEWS WITH A TITLE “GIC DOES NOT INVEST IN CPF”. WHY DID THEY CONVENIENTLY DROP THE ADJECTIVE “DIRECTLY” IF THEY ARE NOT TRYING TO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC? WHY DID LKY NOT CLARIFY WHAT HE IS TRYING TO SAY OR OMIT TO SAY? OMISSION IN ITSELF CONSTITUTES A LIE. THE PROOF IS ALREADY IN THE NEWSPAPER. YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY TRYING TO PASS OFF A DONKEY AS A DEAR. YOU THINK WE ALL SO STUPID LIKE YOU?

@FARK PAP
The article’s headline that you refer to was a journalist or editor’s over-simplification of the facts as clearly stated in the article and should/would, if space permitted, have included the word “directly”. You cannot hold LKY to a headline he did not write – that is just looking for s**t where there isn’t any! Only someone who is paranoid, delusional or just looking to stir up trouble would insist LKY tried to mislead. Also, let’s be very clear about this, omission is not a lie if the omitted fact is already publicly known – GIC ultimately investing funds that come from CPF via the government bond program was not news.

But enough of you trying to deflect from the matter at hand. The FACT still remains that Roy knows the real numbers but isn’t changing his exaggerated claims. That means ROY IS A LIAR. There is no journalist or editor who left anything out so there is no excuse. And no matter how many times you try to say PAP this or PAP that or FARK YOU – it does not change the fact that Roy’s numbers are wrong. So, yet again, and until he stops his lies, FARK ROY!

1)
I question Roy on one point and you bring up two other points where he is also a liar – amazing!

— you question ? you have no right here, He is a liar ? then,your 63 years PM is a liar school teacher , ok !

2)READ the same articles Roy posts as proof is “LKY said” and you will see clearly that LKY said CPF money does not go directly into GIC nor does GIC have direct access to CPF money – and this is 100% correct.
— your Vampire LKY is a liar school mentor, his time is over , ok !

3) Also, to understand what Tharman meant requires a basic understanding of how a Board Of Directors would “direct” a business and does not make day-to-day decisions – that is what the management does. I suppose this may be something you don’t understand so I can forgive your ignorance in this case.

— we only will understand the time coming soon for PM’s wife ，Temasek boss she to be tried, responsible for the loss of property , ok!

4)
What a load of rubbish and stop trying to change the subject!
— the key subject, PM step down, his wife she must stand trial law , Temasek interests return to CPF ! ok !

5)
The fact is Roy is a liar and he HAS NO ANSWER to my question. I’m pretty sure neither TCJ or LHL is ever going to dignify Roy’s lies by debating anything with him – and rightly so!
— he is a liar because no reply u ? well, we follow your sick logic that your PM is a big liar because he did not reply us !
you just r a pest , pls get out !

6)
If Roy would stick to the facts he can still make a good case for doing more for those who need help in our society – but he can’t seem to stop himself exaggerating and casting false accusations – and ultimately damaging the very message he should be trying to deliver.
— your society is only money society , thief is leader society , selfish society , greedy leadership society , it needs to change, ok !

7)
Stick to the facts Roy! Look, 50% of 55 year olds not having the CPF minimum sum is still significant even if it is not Roy’s 90% – it is simply stupidity/pig headedness to keep quoting incorrect numbers in this case. Roy’s followers have the cheek to constantly insult anybody who questions Roy by calling them PAPigs – but Roy is the one who is pig headed!
— you r the pig & pest, double tongue, so old age, so long period occupied don’t want to leave, betray our trust, waster our time, we are not the Roy’s followers, we follow our hearts , we want our CPF back ! our life our in charge ok!

8)
The article’s headline that you refer to was a journalist or editor’s over-simplification of the facts as clearly stated in the article and should/would, if space permitted, have included the word “directly”. You cannot hold LKY to a headline he did not write – that is just looking for s**t where there isn’t any! Only someone who is paranoid, delusional or just looking to stir up trouble would insist LKY tried to mislead. Also, let’s be very clear about this, omission is not a lie if the omitted fact is already publicly known – GIC ultimately investing funds that come from CPF via the government bond program was not news.

— Singapore does not have a transparent government, Prime Minister has violated the dereliction of duty, His second sin is to deprive citizens the right of working, His third sin is involved in commercial activities of Temasek for plunder of national wealth crime,ok
9)
But enough of you trying to deflect from the matter at hand. The FACT still remains that Roy knows the real numbers but isn’t changing his exaggerated claims. That means ROY IS A LIAR. There is no journalist or editor who left anything out so there is no excuse. And no matter how many times you try to say PAP this or PAP that or FARK YOU – it does not change the fact that Roy’s numbers are wrong. So, yet again, and until he stops his lies, FARK ROY!
— FARK you ” The Oracle “bastard ! You are eunuchs ! our national pest ! every word please the vampire , feel no guilty about doing something wrong ,Shameless person abject !

WE ASK PAP WHETHER GIC GOT USE OUR CPF OR NOT? WE DID NOT ASK WHETHER GIC GOT USE OUR CPF “DIRECTLY” OR NOT? LKY REPLY GIC DID NOT USE CPF “DIRECTLY”. I ASK YOU AGAIN, WHAT IS THE QUESTION THAT WE ASKED? WHY DID LKY NOT GIVE A DIRECT ANSWER? INSTEAD HE GAVE A NON-ANSWER. HE COULD HAVE ANSWERED, YES GIC USED OUR CPF INDIRECTLY. WHY DID HE ANSWERED NO, GIC DID NOT USE OUR CPF DIRECTLY?

LET ME PUT IT IN A LAYMAN QUESTION THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND.

EXAMPLE I RAPE YOUR MOTHER LAST NIGHT. YOU ASK ME, DID I RAPE YOUR MOTHER? I ANSWER, NO, I DID NOT EJECT MY SPERM INTO HER CCB. THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO RAPE YOUR MOTHER. BUT DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

@FARK PAP
I understand perfectly that you are a disgusting person who will go lower than any civilised person should go to try to make your point. You really are not interested in reason. You can’t defend Roy’s lies so you try to attack instead. It is all very obvious and you STILL can’t answer my original question.

ROY, ARE YOU A LIAR OR ARE YOU CALLING TAN CHUAN JIN A LIAR?

Roy answered the posting made in his blog on August 23rd to the link I provided again above – so we all know he knows the information in it. And we all know he looks at these replies – he couldn’t reply as he did otherwise.

And I’ll repeat yet again I am not PAP – but you and you kind have made sure I am not pro-Roy. Lies are lies are lies – and Roy is guilty.

I wonder what you meant by “you and you kind have made sure I am not pro-Roy.” That comment really puzzles me as it does not appear to be truthful or sincere. I mean, why would you be angry with Roy over what others say to you? You sounded mad and maybe a little illogical. I should stop now so as not to agitate you further. Good night. 🙂

@FARK PAP
I see in your world “FARK YOU!” is talking nicely because that is how you started the first of your posts above. I don’t have to use layman terms like “I RAPE YOUR MOTHER” to get my point across and I guarantee you most people don’t either. It just shows the world what kind of person you are.

@Xmen
Since you were wondering, today I had a bit more time than usual and some days I don’t post at all.

In answer to your question: Using the guilty by omission logic that “FARK PAP” tried to use, Roy clearly can and does answer questions posted in his blog when he wants and he could, if he wanted, ask his more excitable followers to refrain from gross vulgarities and threats – but he doesn’t. So I can assume Roy is guilty by omission. Or alternatively a good case could be made that he is guilty by association (one person in a gang pulls the trigger, the whole gang can be convicted of murder). They’re Roy’s regular followers on Roy’s public blog so ultimately they speak for Roy.

And that brings me right back to where we started and the still unanswered question:
ROY, ARE YOU A LIAR OR ARE YOU CALLING TAN CHUAN JIN A LIAR?

It is pointless arguing with you on your “guilty by omission/association” logic. It’s like debating “innocent until proven guilty” (first world countries) vs “guilty until proven innocent” (third world countries) I’m pretty sure UK does not practice any of your beliefs.

FARK YOU! THIS IS A FRIENDLY GREETING TO ALL PAP FARKERS AND FAKE ORACLES. WE ARE INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND YOUR READING BETWEEN THE LINES. ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU ARE STUPID ENOUGH SO WE HAVE TO RAPE YOUR MOTHER TO GET OUR POINT ACROSS YOUR FARKING BRAIN. IT JUST SHOWS HOW RETARDED YOU ARE FOR NOT UNDERSTANDING OUR POINTS AND HOW SMART WE ARE TO BE ABLE TO GRASP YOUR HYPOCRISY.

LKY IS IN A POSITION OF RESPONSIBILITY. HE WAS THE GOVERNMENT. HE HAD CONTROL OF THE MEDIA. IT IS HIS RESPONSIBILITY AS PART OF THE GOVERNMENT TO BE HONEST WITH US. HE SHOULD NOT ATTEMPT TO MISLEAD US AND THE MEDIA BY PLAYING WITH WORDS. INDIRECTLY OR DIRECTLY WE ARE NOT INTERESTED. WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW IS IF GIC EVER USE OUR CPF MONEY. THIS HE DID NOT ANSWER. INSTEAD, HE SAID GIC DID NOT USE OUR CPF DIRECTLY.

REPEATING THE SAME ANALOGY. IF I RAPE YOUR MOTHER, WOULD YOU BE OK TO ACCEPT MY RESPONSE THAT I DID NOT RAPE YOUR MOTHER DIRECTLY. WOULD THAT MAKE ME NOT GUILTY OF A CRIME? CPF IS OUR MONEY. IF YOU TREAT YOUR CPF LIKE YOUR MOTHER, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOUR CPF GETS VIOLATED? DO YOU TWIST AND TURN AND SAY, FINE, INDIRECTLY, I CAN ACCEPT?

YOU THINK WE ALL ARE IDIOTS LIKE YOU? YOU WANT TO CALL ROY A LIAR? HOW ABOUT CLEANING UP YOUR OWN BACKYARD FIRST?

@Xmen
You might want to tell that to “FARK PAP” as it appears to be his entire case.

@FARK PAP
The biggest stupidity I see here is using lies to fight what you are calling lies – it makes you/Roy at least as guilty. So again:
ROY, ARE YOU A LIAR OR ARE YOU CALLING TAN CHUAN JIN A LIAR?

FARK YOU! WHETHER ROY LIE OR NO LIE, IT DOESN’T AFFECT YOU, ME OR ANYONE ELSE. ROY IS JUST A NOBODY. ON THE OTHER HAND, THE INTEGRITY OF OUR FARKING MINISTERS ARE MORE IMPORTANT. IF THEY FARKING LIE, THEN THEY ARE FARKING DISHONEST.

WE DO NOT KNOW WHETHER A DISHONEST GOVERNMENT IS CORRUPT. BUT WE DO KNOW THAT A CORRUPT GOVERNMENT IS DISHONEST. ANY WRONG DECISION MADE BY A GOVERNMENT AFFECT MILLIONS. ANY WRONG DECISION MADE BY ROY AFFECT NO ONE BECAUSE ROY IS A NOBODY.

SOMEONE SAYS GIC DOES NOT INVEST DIRECTLY WITH OUR CPF. WHY DID HE NOT SAY GIC INVEST INDIRECTLY WITH OUR CPF? WHY DID SOMEONE WHO CONTROL THE PRESS ALLOW SUCH A MISLEADING NEWS HEADLINE? DID HE KNOW OR DIDN’T KNOW THAT 60% OF THE NEWS READER ONLY READ THE HEADLINE? AND WHAT DID HE WANTS TO COMMUNICATE WITH A STATEMENT LIKE THAT?

CAN THE PEOPLE TRUST THE GOVERNMENT? WHY DID THEY SEND IN SO MANY DOGS TO DISCREDIT A NOBODY? WHO IS ROY? HE IS JUST A NOBODY LIKE ME AND YOU.

You said it – Roy is a nobody. However, he writes a public blog and wants to influence people with it – or he wouldn’t keep writing it almost every day. He therefore has to be held to a reasonable standard of honesty and he is failing on this point.

THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WRITING A PUBLIC BLOG EVERYDAY. YOU FARKING TARGET ROY BECAUSE YOU SEE HE IS WEAK, A NOBODY AND SOMEONE WHO COULDN’T AFFORD TO SUE. YOU ARE A FARKING BULLY, A FARKING COWARD. YOU ONLY DARE TO BULLY THOSE WHO ARE WEAK, BUT COWER INTO YOUR TORTISE SHELL WHEN FACE AGAINST THE STRONG. WHO HAS THE POWER TO INFLUENCE? WHO IS THE ONE WHO WRITE BOOKS CLAIMING HIS VERSION IS THE HARD TRUTH? WHO HAS THE POWER TO GET THE SPH TO DO WORK FOR HIM FREE OF CHARGE? YOU TARGET ROY, ONLY BECAUSE HE IS A NOBODY. YOU ARE A FARKING COWARD.

My previous reply was directed at you and no one else. Please don’t twist my reply. Like I once said before, if my business partner has a twisted tongue like yours, he would not be my partner for long. I truly despise people who are dishonest and try to hide things from me.

the real ?
your real ?
too late,
as long as an erase in your hands
your “real” is fake
your Minister ?
only for money minister
PAP’s minister not mean people’s minister
has clarified ?
of course clarified for money is good, so good ,ok
but
we need the evidence of capital fund Temasek !

assumptions are wrong ?
you are not human being
is any bastard Vampire must need a “assumptions” ?
NO,
we seen the death
go back and step down
carry your ” assumptions ” into to your grave
we don’t assist Vampire any more

” ROY, ARE YOU A LIAR OR ARE YOU CALLING TAN CHUAN JIN A LIAR? ”
yes
we people are liar for last 50 years
so what, vote Vampire as PM ?
we are liar when we suffered but still say never mind
we are liar when our brother lost job but still say thank you
we lare liar when your greedy PM but we still contributed him

but you !
Shameless,
You get the benefits between the government and the people
In ancient times, shame often associated with “loyalty, faith, piety, fraternal, propriety, justice, honesty,” tied for eight Conduct.
you not know shame; no sense of shame….This kind no goodness and morality shameless man. no feel embarrassing on behalf of the minister ?He is the PAP’s a negative example

U ppl keep saying old and poor ppl in other countries r living well.
I have been to many countries. The poor and old ppl in many countries r living in worse situation than in sg. Who r u ppl kidding? U think Singaporeans r frog in the well?
This Roy is really a peice of sxxt… Keep lying and lying…

What abt u?
R u a frog in the well? Thinking that Singapore is the worst country in the world?
Have u ever step out of sg? Or when u step out of sg, r u as a tourist (using SGD and wine and dine in expensive places only)? Thus u think every country is a good place without poor old ppl?
There r lots of poor old and young ppl in all countries. And sg has done better than them in a lot of ways.
U want to criticize, make sure u have ur facts right.
Get a life, Roy. Sg has done so well that we are rearing useless pricks like u ppl. Ccb

The most ruthless, when a writer to write to the Prime Minister of Singapore plead when being mercilessly mocked and rejected, Etc., have caused a self-destruct.
The right attitude should be the door open for dialogue. , respect writers & then peopls’s demands.
AS PM may do a position exchange to think , if PM is a poor child, if PM’s job lost by someone’s pressure, if PM ‘s income was not enough for a living..surely the PM wants to change the system, or get a new PM ..

Respect is to be earned.
Dialogue was held and useless Roy wasted it like a useless prick that Roy is.
Wasted DPM precious time and Roy still doesn’t get it. Why? Is Roy uneducated or is he sleeping in dialogue?

1) Why dun u go ask pap in person when they hold all these conversions, talks and forums?
———– in the beginning , our brother Roy wants to talk to PM. but PM rejected it, PM close the channel of conversation first, then, PM ‘s lawyer ask for money for compensation , but based on Roy’s finance he only affordable 5000SGD to pay PM, but PM’s lawyer said 5000 is a peanut , he want more and more money,it was the kidnappers ask kidnap for money, then next, PM’s secretary team order Roy lost job, the next PM team ask the newspaper shamed Roy, therefore, People angry. people not allow PM bully our child, since people dissatisfied for long .

2)Govt already explained so many times…
————- but so far, goverment still no show any paper about where Temasek Holdings’s pay up capital fund comes from ?
in fact, it comes from our CPF’s contribution , ok

3)U ppl keep saying old and poor ppl in other countries r living well. I have been to many countries.

———- because PAP announce Singapore is the first world class, so let talk about the same countries situation , see blow:

1. Their children, from birth to 18 years , receiving monthly rations of State giving for living cost, about 300.00 SGD per month for each child. Even foreigner’s children, as long as the parents are working in Europe, there are benefits.

2. From kindergarten to university, is completely free.

3. free to see a doctor, hospital stay free, free check-ups. In any European country, after the sick, see a doctor, hospital stay for free.

4. if the layoffs, government pay responsible of issuing the monthly income till the person find the next job . The maximum term is five years. so they lost job, but no lost income, no the cost of living .

5. If you can not find work, and want to learn carpentry , or painting, or sewing , or dancing , etc., all skills courses free offer by government ,The maximum term is 3 – 5 years. in addition, During the course period also got about 2000.00SGD monthly for living expenses.

6. law rules a week for 37 hours working time . Overtime work is illegal, in violation of for human pressure the bottom line .Night work pay is the three times of the day pay.

7. Government issued about 1500.00SGD annual vacation allowance to each person, if over 65 years old still continue to work, an additional payment of 30,000.00 SGD as incentive transferred by government

8. Each elderly live exclusive apartments by the State to pay the rent. Government is responsible once a week, to help the elderly bathe, clean up the room. After the death also in charge funeral expenses.

—- Previously reported that the elderly are not being taken care, it lied about the truth.

9. ambulances, rescue helicopters dispatched. People do not have to pay a dime. in addition, if university student will stay not at home, will received about 1500.00SGD for rent cost per month. if the working place far In 20 km away, government pay the transpotation cost.

10.every year in parliament debate the how do make annual financial allocation, even if they raise pigs, are subject to welfare, they want to eat healthy pork.

Before criticizing the West, in fact, they are frogs. Western system is the best system.

conversely . their Prime Minister’s income is the normal . much much lower than Singapore ,they don’t touch or take people’s fund away. is why the European community are the most civilized human society.

Your lovely Europe are crumbling! So many countries are on the verge of collapsing! Ireland, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Romania, Bulgaria and Cyprus need to be save from Bankruptcy! Unemployment reaching 40% in some countries. Germany and Britain in bad shape! Taxes increasing! So which one is the heaven you are mentioning?

This are real countries that are facing problem in Europe! So name the countries that the citizen is enjoying what we are enjoying now! Don’t just chant without any fxxking evidence and proof you idiot!

Welfare need money! And where do you expect the money to sustain all this shit that you want! Tax! How much tax do you want to pay?

You think everything come out from Prata Roy ass? He has only lies for you!

Above the Growler is always a rogue look, he let everyone see the Singapore government shamelessly , being deliberately dishonest , look around the world leaders’s income , they take care of people, share with people, no one be greedy as the same as Singapore’s leaders ,
a greedy person would not take care of people, if say yes, it is lie.
what is why people want PM step down .
上面这位咆哮者总是一副无赖的样子， 他让大家看到新加坡政府耍赖皮的面目， 请问，世界上还有那个国家的领袖像新加坡领袖这么贪得无厌的呢。

I see the dumb-ass reply to Alan is to spend our savings – and then what? What happens when the savings are gone? Singapore is not part of the European Union and there is nobody to bail us out when the s**t hits the fan. What about the interest we currently earn on those savings – some of which also give us a better standard of living today? You have no real idea of the cost of what you want – like a 2 year old you see a cookie jar and you just want cookies!

Most of Europe is in debt up to it’s neck and tax payers are being squeezed and squeezed – people on average incomes are paying 50% and more tax in some countries. And they are the lucky ones who are working – more than 50% of under 30s in Spain for example are unemployed. I’d rather have our system with 2% unemployment.

………. their life carry on well , people has a decent standard of living, their Court, over 500 years no business, no suicide , the country ‘s population as the same as Singapore , there are more than 1000 people’s live to 100 years old – 110 years old
在一个和新加坡人口一样多的国家里， 活到100岁 － 110岁的人有超过1000个人以上.

4)Unemployment reaching 40% in some countries.
………… but that fact, each jobless person still got income, Singapore media only say half truth, another half is,they lost job, never income, they still get the same money as their working time , 5 years term, until they find next job, government have union issued monthly cost of living for each person who Unemployment .

5)
Germany and Britain in bad shape!
………….. Germany is most low cost country in the World, their government never increase house price for business purpose, don’t fool Singaporean.

6)
Taxes increasing!
…………. after high tax deduction, their system rules Minimum salary is not less than 1600 euros, Even Filipino maids here monthly minimum salary is 1600 euros. it is Minimum wage.

7)
So which one is the heaven you are mentioning? ”
………….yes, my sister lived there, she is an house wife, but their government’s police is, one person, one living cost, she got about 500SGD monthly for her cost of living, but they transfered into her husband’s account , pls Singapore leader be good to Singaporeans.

In dealing with the people of life, you not deserve to be called the First World, only the first World for PM/DPM/MP. the evil is too greedy , last time you design singaporeans basic is 3000SGD, can you use the same talking to your PM, ask how did he use such huge money ? he has only one stomach. how much food he want to eat and cost million money ? how many rooms he want to occupy for sleeping, only one body , any explaining ?

GREED is one of seven basic character flaws or “dark” personality traits.
What is greed?
Greed is the tendency to selfish craving, grasping and hoarding. It is defined as: A selfish or excessive desire for more than is needed or deserved, especially of money, wealth, food, or other possessions.

Other names for greed include avarice, covetousness and cupidity.
Greed is generally considered a vice, and is one of the seven deadly sins in Catholicism—a greedy person is one who values material acquisitions and possessions more than God.

Why is Chinese PAP so greedy? They just want to be rich , but People these days are quite selfish and uncaring sometimes. They don’t want to spend so much money that they think is a waste, but sometimes this is bad common sense that affects people.

Can we hang Roy if he waste PM time?
Why should PM meet him when a dialogue is already held?
I certainly dun want my PM to waste his time on a useless prick. Roy just wants publicity lah. U think Singaporeans r idiots?
This kind of faggot Roy. Go and die also will not be in the front page of straits time.

Europe countries have abundance of natural resources and they r in deep shit. R u nuts to lead sg into a sinkhole?
This goes to show how ppl like Roy works. Brainless to think sg should be like other countries, do stupid things.
U want sg to go down? Roy deserves to be stoned

If you want to know is how other countries treat their people unnecessary travel, as long as through the embassy, as well as online and read can know. if PAP don’t want to know, it never progress even 5 -8 % of the Civilization,

Yes! Illusion! Frog in well or whatever shit! If you want to run an argument, do some fxxking google like that piece of shit! Don’t just try to pull from your brainless imagination! life go on? You don’t know what kind of worry that all the government have now! They bloody cut off the fxxking welfare that you salivating about! All the younger generation ran away from their countries asking for jobs! Some even be prostitutes just to earn a living! And you want our country to be like their?

Until now, you can’t even name the fxxking country u are talking about! Liar!

Your sister?! I’ve a whole freaking uncle, auntie, cousin, nephew, niece, sister in law, mother in law, whatever family you can name all there!!! So?

An evil mind person will hate to know the truth of civilize things,
but in order to prove it, can we make a deal here. you go back to talk to PM, fix a date do allow we share her story to Singaporean ,

i just talk to her over the skype, she said, she wrote a diary daily and every day sent to PM’s email box already , since last year, she wrote down her daily experience . about news and surprise on welfare ,She wish our PM will learn a bit kindness from their leaders,

Alan, please stop insult anymore , please go back to ask your PM to read her each emails .
I will try to get her permission to open her diary here.

But if you are here on behalf of PAP abuse, it Means PAP is really a devil.

If we do not live in Europe, how do we know they are so good to people . does Your PM give Singaporeans 1 percent of it? you give nothing , for what you must take the world’s largest pay ?
The problem is you reject to believe the truth? it’s your problem.
Because in your world all leaders of the Worldwide are self-serving leaders , a greedy person.
Hope tomorrow morning, you inform Singapore Embassy in Germany, submitted an investigate of the Germany welfare for our PM, you don’t need to come back, you insulting us for many times here, you must severely hit yourself for read the truth existing.

Greed of politicians and spoilt kids.
They have been made fun of by US merchant bankers who have been screwing them resulting in huge losses.
Wall street bankers knowing their weakness and inexperience, cajole them with creative accounting and counterbids leading them on. After catastrophic tens of billion dollar losses they continue to indulge in losing businesses – this time in earthquake prone belt!
They do not properly conduct due diligence – just vain pride they have Carte Blacnche to ruthlessly use public money. Time for citizens court to deliver swift justice!

TOKYO – Singapore’s sovereign wealth fund GIC is in final talks to buy a Tokyo office tower for about 170 billion yen (S$2 billion), three people with direct knowledge of the deal said, in what would be Japan’s biggest property transaction since the global financial crisis.
GIC, which already has a large presence in Japan’s property market, outbid the asset management unit of Goldman Sachs Group, which also participated in the final bid for the property which was put up for sale by Secured Capital, part of Asian private equity firm PAG.
GIC is in talks for the 32-storey Pacific Century Place Marunouchi in a prime spot near the Tokyo railway station. The progress in the talks comes after GIC backed out of another deal for a major Tokyo property owned by global buyout firm Lone Star Funds

And do you know what is GIC? It’s call the Government Investment Corp! Which mean it’s for investment! Buying Building is also investment regardless where you buy! So what is so wrong with that?

There are gains, there are losses in all investment and so far our GIC have been prudent and thus grows our wealth quite significantly to fund our structure. Please google to get all the info about the level of our fund before you write anything!

Do you think by collecting taxes from 30% of our population of 3.5 millions Singaporean can grow our country to this state! Well, please continue dreaming!

On the welfare of other first-world country in the world, if not our children’s personal experience, we did not dare to think about this surprising, but this is the truth, you can consult the Singapore Ministry of Foreign Affairs, to check their governments website obtained the truth.

What’s the use you are here jumping or Curse your mother ! Relying on your dirty mouth full of invective that an rogue attitude, PAP like a mafia, outrageous! Must step down! PAP is no longer suitable leadership in Singapore.

look at Roy, suffered too much, but he did not scold you all the time. what about your PAP ? took so much money from people, even no feel shame to curse at people’s blog here ?

Chua is such an idiot.
If Gic dun invest, then how? U want Gic to plant it’s money and pray it will grow money trees of real money?
Govt pays it’s ppl well so that good and capable ppl works for Singaporeans and if corrupted, corrupted ppl will be jailed. No excuse due to low pay like so many corrupted countries included other first world nations.
U think smart ppl work for u becos u r handsome? Dumb piece of shit.

Parking public money in another country? Land title in whose name(s)? Caveats will be lodged according to international laws which can be applied and enforced?

Where is transparency?

How many signatures required to draw on money if they lose power? Money goes to whom?

I have asked questions many times before – no replies! It is shuddering thought this may be first world class country where leaders can run away with trillions – must always be bigger and better than others! Who protects public money if there is transparency?

They have lost tens of billions? That was prudent investment or slowly parking money elsewhere and that is not considered money laundering?

Am I dreaming or you are naive? Each time mistake is made or exposed – the whole machinery is activated to cover up!

Public money is at stake as their think tanks find more creative ways to tax citizens and park money without public being protected to have access to money when and if they fall!

What becomes of these foreign investments? Go into hands of only a few? Where is the transparency and the President does not know because he has not come across such a situation before?

Or there was something sinister which well respected ex-President Ong Teng Cheong came across?

Worse! This may lead to citizens revolt in spite of foreign mercenary army of gurkhas!

Our rangers and commandos and military personnel are too useless to protect our country or cannot be trusted to be relied upon?

Too many members of public are too pissed off! They already planned what they can and will do with public money with due diligence for own benefit if they are not elected so is it fair for citizens to trust them with their high handed ways?

PAP wants Singaporeans to trust Temasek & GIC with making wise investment choices.
But PAP does not want to trust Singaporeans with making wise choices with our CPF money.
You want us to trust Yew?
First Yew will have to trust Singaporeans.

I’ll make it easy for Yew.
I will vote Opposition until Yew return CPF back when we are 55 years old.

1)
What abt u? R u a frog in the well? Thinking that Singapore is the worst country in the world?
— — yes, IF still PAP in charge , PAP is a frog in the well.
2)
Have u ever step out of sg? Or when u step out of sg, r u as a tourist (using SGD and wine and dine in expensive places only)? Thus u think every country is a good place without poor old ppl?
— — at least no government body became millionaire team, It is extremely disgusting, ok.
3)
There r lots of poor old and young ppl in all countries. And sg has done better than them in a lot of ways.
— This is not our feelings, it is PAP’s feeling,
4)
U want to criticize, make sure u have ur facts right.
— Not lack of evidence, the lack of no one innocent leader
5)
Respect is to be earned. Dialogue was held and useless Roy wasted it like a useless prick
— PM had deprived Roy’s right of work, no condition talk about respect is to be earned , ok , you, PM, PAP waste our time, We generations price is your one hundred million times, so far, we charge you zero, Instead you took away all from us, our home, our land, our rice, our interests, our future, our job, our CPF.
6)
that Roy is.Wasted DPM precious time and Roy still doesn’t get it. Why?
— pls step down, save both time , no why if you no solution back to our people .
7)
time is just time, your DPM behind is PM, our Roy behind is 2 millions Singaporeans. no such you’re DPM is precious, our Roy is not precious, No ! when we want you step down, you have nothing meaning , no more !
8)
Is Roy uneducated or is he sleeping in dialogue?
— shamed him, defiled him , is PAP’s evil personality, we put it here as evidence , in last 50 years, any report about national finance open to the public by your PM ? no, never !only lazy , did your PM are educated ? yes , educated for greedy. ok.
9)
Can we hang Roy if he waste PM time?
— your PM like to show off, or keen on taking pictures , that is all, never solve an issue, waste our time, He himself didn’t have wisdom, the people around him are idiot, bad guy. these bad people given him a lot of very toxic bad idea, in fact, they also harm him.
10)
Why should PM meet him when a dialogue is already held?
— before dialogue , must be honestly , PAP ‘s arrogant attitude must change, nobody owed you, is you PAP owed us , ok , solution is everything, return our CPF, return Roy’s job !
11)
I certainly dun want my PM to waste his time on a useless prick. Roy just wants publicity lah. U think Singaporeans r idiots?
— you rely on guesses psychology and try to figure out , that you are so low-level thinking, Roy is a great thinker ! You and he compared that you are a bread person in the government, never reading , useless for our society .
12)
This kind of faggot Roy. Go and die also will not be in the front page of straits time.Europe countries have abundance of natural resources and they r in deep shit. R u nuts to lead sg into a sinkhole?This goes to show how ppl like Roy works. Brainless to think sg should be like other countries, do stupid things.
U want sg to go down? Roy deserves to be stoned
— This site is open to the world, above stain you summarized for ur PM .no doubting about the evil government, fine, We do a good job and prepare to fight criminals,

1)
What abt u? R u a frog in the well? Thinking that Singapore is the worst country in the world?
— — yes, IF still PAP in charge , PAP is a frog in the well.
>> SG is highly rated in the world as a country with no natural resources but attained world class economy. Are you stupid?
2)
Have u ever step out of sg? Or when u step out of sg, r u as a tourist (using SGD and wine and dine in expensive places only)? Thus u think every country is a good place without poor old ppl?
— — at least no government body became millionaire team, It is extremely disgusting, ok.
>> I would rather pay our capable govt than for a incapable govt (to bankrupt our nation through corruption). wake up your idea. you think capable men dun need money??? are you stupid?
3)
There r lots of poor old and young ppl in all countries. And sg has done better than them in a lot of ways.
— This is not our feelings, it is PAP’s feeling,
>>> R you blind? do you not travel?
4)
U want to criticize, make sure u have ur facts right.
— Not lack of evidence, the lack of no one innocent leader
>>> what evidence? wrong data, wrong information, incomplete picture, fabricated informations, etc… from roy and his friends? you never check source of your evidence does not mean every singaporeans dun verify. you stupid, you think everyone is stupid?
5)
Respect is to be earned. Dialogue was held and useless Roy wasted it like a useless prick
— PM had deprived Roy’s right of work, no condition talk about respect is to be earned , ok , you, PM, PAP waste our time, We generations price is your one hundred million times, so far, we charge you zero, Instead you took away all from us, our home, our land, our rice, our interests, our future, our job, our CPF.
>>>> Roy admitted he was skiving on his job, it is not PM who sacked him. he “sacked” himself by not doing what he is paid for….
6)
that Roy is.Wasted DPM precious time and Roy still doesn’t get it. Why?
— pls step down, save both time , no why if you no solution back to our people .
>>> DPM is not paid to teach Roy how to count and understand policy…. DPM is to make Singaporeans lives better….
7)
time is just time, your DPM behind is PM, our Roy behind is 2 millions Singaporeans. no such you’re DPM is precious, our Roy is not precious, No ! when we want you step down, you have nothing meaning , no more !
>>> more than 60% voted for PAP and our govt. Roy can not even garner 1000 ppl. where did you get 2 million singaporeans? are you delusion?
8)
Is Roy uneducated or is he sleeping in dialogue?
— shamed him, defiled him , is PAP’s evil personality, we put it here as evidence , in last 50 years, any report about national finance open to the public by your PM ? no, never !only lazy , did your PM are educated ? yes , educated for greedy. ok.
>>> no one shamed roy, he actually shamed himself by being stupid… can’t even understand logic of our policy… my grandma also understand…..
9)
Can we hang Roy if he waste PM time?
— your PM like to show off, or keen on taking pictures , that is all, never solve an issue, waste our time, He himself didn’t have wisdom, the people around him are idiot, bad guy. these bad people given him a lot of very toxic bad idea, in fact, they also harm him.
>>> what are you trying to say?
10)
Why should PM meet him when a dialogue is already held?
— before dialogue , must be honestly , PAP ‘s arrogant attitude must change, nobody owed you, is you PAP owed us , ok , solution is everything, return our CPF, return Roy’s job !
>>> roy did something wrong so sacking him is the right thing to do…
11)
I certainly dun want my PM to waste his time on a useless prick. Roy just wants publicity lah. U think Singaporeans r idiots?
— you rely on guesses psychology and try to figure out , that you are so low-level thinking, Roy is a great thinker ! You and he compared that you are a bread person in the government, never reading , useless for our society .
>>> Roy is just a useless prick. Thinker? roy is just thinking how to con donations out of idiots….
12)
This kind of faggot Roy. Go and die also will not be in the front page of straits time.Europe countries have abundance of natural resources and they r in deep shit. R u nuts to lead sg into a sinkhole?This goes to show how ppl like Roy works. Brainless to think sg should be like other countries, do stupid things.
U want sg to go down? Roy deserves to be stoned
— This site is open to the world, above stain you summarized for ur PM .no doubting about the evil government, fine, We do a good job and prepare to fight criminals,
>>> All criminals must be punished, whether online or offline. PM should not be softhearted, PM must demand justice, not for himself but for singaporeans. Punish all criminals….

Some came out to give Roy a lesson, they thought Roy like them, the same color skin, is a born from the same parents, Their traditional reasoning to measure him. however His extraordinary wisdom, He has the full requirements of the general population comes to life can bring progressive lofty wishes; his life individual self-improvement and actively integrate into society as a whole is correct behavior and contribution, it’s not the narrow sense in a family country, Roy’s soul from a sacred God, with lofty, noble, solemn and inviolable power.

Don’t give me the shitty crap! All the idiots up here are just the same fxxking person! Why waste your time create all this useless shit just to show your numbers?

Whatever shit you are talking bout Pussy Roy now are just licking him! Does a real leader required this kind of shit? Extraordinary wisdom? A sacred Dog? Dogty, noble solomize power? Are you thinking he is kim Jong Un from NK?

So are you Roy doing a self praise? You are getting comical! What a shit you really are! Hahahaha!

Since LHL doesnt care about his people, and always go against their wishes, and always deleting criticisms from his facebook, let’s all be united and bombard Barrack Obama’s and Michelle Obama’s facebook. Write to them and inform them of the evil deeds that PAP has committed.

You guys are loony. Really. It’s actually rather pathetic. Fight for wat? If he has so many supporters, and if people are swayed, we would be seeing loads of people at HLP. Fact is, he didn’t get too many.

I am no PAP supporter, but this Roy cannot make it lah. I believe most people are pragmatic. We follow good sense. As long as there are good suggestions, I’m open to them.

Most of the gossip recorded in study was not man. Why this women love to visit Roy and gossip? because she has low self-esteem. she are jealous of the person she gossip about. Gossip isn’t always bad! Gossip can be for a good, With gossip, women feel out other women, other people, tendencies, “political” currents, etc. – learn about her social surroundings. Who’s on her side , is this an environment that is bound to be a defense for my children and so on.

It’s pretty sad to see that after 50 years of PAP rule by Millionaires.
– we see people like Alan (who obviously hate Singaporeans) coming online to support PAP
– sad to see the type of people PAP seems to attract

When Alan becomes a PAP MP or Minister.
Singaporeans.
Can we expect any sympathy or help from this PAP citizen?
Do you trust your elderly parents or children to Alan’s tender heart?
Or to a political party that attracts such people?

I think Alan’s language is better than most of what is posted by Roy’s followers. For example, you just used “PAPig” – the most common insult for anybody who doesn’t agree 100% with Roy. And you only have to read other posts above to see stuff like “I RAPE YOUR MOTHER LAST NIGHT” posted by a regular and particularly nasty Roy fan. Hate breeds hate and the flow is definitely greater from Roy’s followers.

Overall, if the intent of Roy’s blog is to convince the undecided that they should join the opposition against the PAP, he and his followers are going the wrong way about it and they are reaping what they have sown.

I don’t think PAPig is a bad word.
There is no such word in the English dictionary.
I think Alan represents the values of PAP as espoused in numerous LKY books.
LKY expresses his views more elegantly as is befitting an elder statesman with many years of experience.
Alan seems to say essentially the same thing … but maybe a little bit more crudely.

I don’t think we should judge Alan too harshly. Alan has obviously studied LKY’s books well.
He is clearly well versed and very much supportive of LKY’s world view.
With a little bit more polish, I’m sure he will soon join the ranks of other PAP Ministers.
Hats off also to The Oracle who is a far more polished version of Alan.
It would not surprise me if The Oracle gets roped into one of the PAP GRC teams for GE 2016.

I believe The Oracle is following the career path of PAP’s Vikram Nair.
A prolific blogger who attracted the attention of PM Lee in GE 2011.
We Singaporeans are duly honoured by two PAP citizens who have graced us with their views & comments.

Alan,
According to What?
According to PM conceal the truth ?
According to PM’s Temasek took away our interests?
According to PM violation of our right to earn a living
Or, according to PAP captive monkeys here importune?

we heard long ago that PAP distribute money to these monkeys, for encourage the monkeys bite us one by one. they are Criminals .

PAP’s image goner, only depends such Criminals .
so what in September? For the PM to step down in September to do the countdown!

FARK YOU ORACLE! YOU WANT TO INTIMIDATE ME WITH THE FARKING STATUE? DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IS AN EXAMPLE? DO YOU KNOW THE MEANING OF AN ANALOGY? IF YOU FARKING DO NOT COMPREHEND MY FARKING ENGLISH, THEN YOU GO AHEAD AND FARKING EMBARRAS YOURSELF AND GO FARKING REPORT THE FARKING POLICE TO WASTE FARKING PUBLIC RESOURCES.

@FARK PAP
You clearly didn’t comprehend me as I stated your language, if used IN PERSON, could be classified as criminal intimidation. Online though you are just virtual hot air and an probably an embarrassment to many in the anti-PAP camp.

AT LEAST I AM HONEST ENOUGH TO SAY I FARK PAP. YOU? YOU PRETEND TO BE NEUTRAL, PRETEND TO BE THE ORACLE. YOU ARE FARKING DISHONEST AND A FARKING DISGRACE TO MANKIND. YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW WHERE YOU STAND. YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW WHO YOU ARE. LET ME TELL YOU. YOU ARE A FARKING THREE LEGGED ANIMAL.

A real man doesn’t have to use vulgar language all the time. I’m sorry for you as obviously your father didn’t teach you this. Considering the amount of rage you seem to be filled with, I suspect instead he used to beat you (or worse) when he came home drunk night after night after night. Have you considered going for counselling? Here is a link to a service:http://www.counsel.org.sg/index.cfm?GPID=7

Alan,
Please Look, Very simple. the same Singaporeans
PM to take astronomical income, but people get zero,
PAP borrowed people’s CPF do invest, but not share it with the people, LKY once said on television, the welfare of the people as the first priority, until he is dying now, but did not give to people,
Singaporeans do not lie !

Obviously, Is unfortunate authorize to the younger generation. stand up and tell the truth .
You are here importune role is a bottle of catalyst to promote the PM to step Down

For an idiot who doesn’t know how to differentiate right or wrong do not have the quality to talk about the honorable teacher like 孔子 or 老子思想！对于人我会讲人的道理。对于你们禽兽只会用禽兽之理。是非不分之人就更不用说了。何况是你这种助纣为虐的小人！能写几个字就自以为是的人也可能是伪君子啊！

Alan, when you say Confucius , we both laughed, in fact, you are very cute, only a little dirty on your mouth, hope you will think these ancient people thought of Confucius, their essence is the etiquette fair to treat people, and do not give people suffering reasons. Like Lee Kuan Yew, one side he worship Confucianism, one side he confrontation, he is not real worship Confucianism. this is his life hypocritical side.

Let’s talk about the person of “The Oracle “,
If Alan’s impression here is just a jerk clown,
then ” The Oracle ” is the manipulator created a cunning bastard clown, can see that he came from the White Terror era 50 years ago, he benefits from the evil regime. Thus he fully maintain this both selfish and wicked regime continues, 50 years later, he still ignored the cost of Saddam Hussein was shot, it can confirm that he is the biggest Ugly class scum for the nation & the people of Singaporeans, He is the state and nation’s public enemy.

Here he constantly reminds us that he is one of the national events planner, he wants to put the clock back, he wants people stalled at the crossroads, he wants our child’s career had stalled, he wants to violate common sense, he wants to do anything contrary to the trend of the times or the will of the people.

Whatever Oracle been saying is supported by proof. Whatever the dogs have are merely unreasonable rants! I felt shameful for u people when u mentioned this stuff will reach out to worldwide audience. This show how this Pussy dogs can string an argument without anything concrete!

stop speaking rudely ! hot tempered but heart may not so bad, You’re a little compassion person, but If you and Roy together, become friends, Singapore will become more humane society, be the world’s example, be the proud of all Singaporeans.

Singapore Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew and Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong want Teo En Ming dead. Lee Kuan Yew and Lee Hsien Loong want Teo En Ming to die young. I am only 36 years old. I do not want to die young. I want to live to a hundred years old and beyond!!!

Teo En Ming has filed an official complaint against the Singapore Government at the United Nations Human Rights Council Branch and the International Criminal Court. Read the letter here: