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I have compiled the final AP Class B poll information for every season going back to 1969-70. A few interesting things about the poll I thought I would share:

-It's good to be #1: The top-ranked team has appeared in the state tournament 38 times in 49 seasons (77.5%), made the championship game 26 times (53%) and won 15 titles (30.6%). Only two times in 49 years has the #1 team not made at least the regional semifinals: In 1972, New England St. Mary's lost the district title game by one point to 8th-ranked Scranton and did not advance to the regional. In 1982 Cando lost 57-56 to eventual state runner-up Edmore in the first round of the R3 tournament.

-Only two teams, North Star from 2010-12 and Four Winds-Minnewaukan from 2015-17 have been the top-ranked team in the final poll three seasons in a row. Four teams have done it in back to back years: Larimore 1978-79, Glen Ullin 1986-87, Langdon 1990-91 and May-Port-CG in 1996-97. Neither of those Langdon teams made the state tournament.

-The #3 ranking has the second most state appearances with 30. However, only one 3rd-ranked team has ever won the state title (Leeds-1999).

-43 of the last 49 state champions have been ranked. 35 of those champions were ranked in the top five. The six state champions that weren't ranked are Wyndmere (1971), Mayville-Portland (1972), Bisbee-Egeland (1989), Standing Rock (1998), North Border (2001) and Milnor (2013). Of those six teams, Bisbee-Egeland, Standing Rock and Milnor did not receive any votes in the final poll.

-Between 1971 and 1992 Hillsboro was ranked or receiving votes each year except 1978 when the Burros went 10-12 and 1987 when they went 16-7.

-In the last 49 years there have been no state tournament where all eight teams were ranked. There have been seven ranked teams twice, in 1984 and 1992. Only one ranked team appeared in the state tournament in 1982. Two ranked teams appeared in 1972, 1978, 1989 and 2014.

-In 49 years there have been 208 ranked teams appearing in the state tournament, an average of just over 4 per season.

These are the most final poll appearances by school since 1970. In parentheses is the number of times the school was ranked first:

B Historian wrote:I have compiled the final AP Class B poll information for every season going back to 1969-70. A few interesting things about the poll I thought I would share:

-It's good to be #1: The top-ranked team has appeared in the state tournament 38 times in 49 seasons (77.5%), made the championship game 26 times (53%) and won 15 titles (30.6%). Only two times in 49 years has the #1 team not made at least the regional semifinals: In 1972, New England St. Mary's lost the district title game by one point to 8th-ranked Scranton and did not advance to the regional. In 1982 Cando lost 57-56 to eventual state runner-up Edmore in the first round of the R3 tournament.

-Only two teams, North Star from 2010-12 and Four Winds-Minnewaukan from 2015-17 have been the top-ranked team in the final poll three seasons in a row. Four teams have done it in back to back years: Larimore 1978-79, Glen Ullin 1986-87, Langdon 1990-91 and May-Port-CG in 1996-97. Neither of those Langdon teams made the state tournament.

-The #3 ranking has the second most state appearances with 30. However, only one 3rd-ranked team has ever won the state title (Leeds-1999).

-43 of the last 49 state champions have been ranked. 35 of those champions were ranked in the top five. The six state champions that weren't ranked are Wyndmere (1971), Mayville-Portland (1972), Bisbee-Egeland (1989), Standing Rock (1998), North Border (2001) and Milnor (2013). Of those six teams, Bisbee-Egeland, Standing Rock and Milnor did not receive any votes in the final poll.

-Between 1971 and 1992 Hillsboro was ranked or receiving votes each year except 1978 when the Burros went 10-12 and 1987 when they went 16-7.

-In the last 49 years there have been no state tournament where all eight teams were ranked. There have been seven ranked teams twice, in 1984 and 1992. Only one ranked team appeared in the state tournament in 1982. Two ranked teams appeared in 1972, 1978, 1989 and 2014.

-In 49 years there have been 208 ranked teams appearing in the state tournament, an average of just over 4 per season.

These are the most final poll appearances by school since 1970. In parentheses is the number of times the school was ranked first:

B Historian wrote:I have compiled the final AP Class B poll information for every season going back to 1969-70. A few interesting things about the poll I thought I would share:

-It's good to be #1: The top-ranked team has appeared in the state tournament 38 times in 49 seasons (77.5%), made the championship game 26 times (53%) and won 15 titles (30.6%). Only two times in 49 years has the #1 team not made at least the regional semifinals: In 1972, New England St. Mary's lost the district title game by one point to 8th-ranked Scranton and did not advance to the regional. In 1982 Cando lost 57-56 to eventual state runner-up Edmore in the first round of the R3 tournament.

-Only two teams, North Star from 2010-12 and Four Winds-Minnewaukan from 2015-17 have been the top-ranked team in the final poll three seasons in a row. Four teams have done it in back to back years: Larimore 1978-79, Glen Ullin 1986-87, Langdon 1990-91 and May-Port-CG in 1996-97. Neither of those Langdon teams made the state tournament.

-The #3 ranking has the second most state appearances with 30. However, only one 3rd-ranked team has ever won the state title (Leeds-1999).

-43 of the last 49 state champions have been ranked. 35 of those champions were ranked in the top five. The six state champions that weren't ranked are Wyndmere (1971), Mayville-Portland (1972), Bisbee-Egeland (1989), Standing Rock (1998), North Border (2001) and Milnor (2013). Of those six teams, Bisbee-Egeland, Standing Rock and Milnor did not receive any votes in the final poll.

-Between 1971 and 1992 Hillsboro was ranked or receiving votes each year except 1978 when the Burros went 10-12 and 1987 when they went 16-7.

-In the last 49 years there have been no state tournament where all eight teams were ranked. There have been seven ranked teams twice, in 1984 and 1992. Only one ranked team appeared in the state tournament in 1982. Two ranked teams appeared in 1972, 1978, 1989 and 2014.

-In 49 years there have been 208 ranked teams appearing in the state tournament, an average of just over 4 per season.

These are the most final poll appearances by school since 1970. In parentheses is the number of times the school was ranked first:

If you are counting North Star/Cando you should also be counting Bisbee- Engeland ( thats techincally apart of that co-op and they won state in 89) just goes to show you how really successful that program and area has been in Basketball. With them and FW's trading blow for blow. Was kind of refreshing seeing someone like St John to come into the mix.

I believe Todd Trudel had over 30 points in that game and the Cubs still lost. He was an outstanding player. It's also interesting that Edmore made three straight state tournaments and played in two title games without being ranked. They were well coached and always seem to play their best ball at tournament time.

was the 1977 Epping team ranked

Epping was ranked sixth that season, behind Hillsboro, Devils Lake St. Mary's, Larimore, Minnewaukan and Beulah. Beulah beat Epping 63-50 in Beulah in the third game of the season which was Epping's only loss coming into the title game. Epping beat Beulah 50-45 in the regional semifinals that year.

B Historian wrote:I have compiled the final AP Class B poll information for every season going back to 1969-70. A few interesting things about the poll I thought I would share:

-It's good to be #1: The top-ranked team has appeared in the state tournament 38 times in 49 seasons (77.5%), made the championship game 26 times (53%) and won 15 titles (30.6%). Only two times in 49 years has the #1 team not made at least the regional semifinals: In 1972, New England St. Mary's lost the district title game by one point to 8th-ranked Scranton and did not advance to the regional. In 1982 Cando lost 57-56 to eventual state runner-up Edmore in the first round of the R3 tournament.

-Only two teams, North Star from 2010-12 and Four Winds-Minnewaukan from 2015-17 have been the top-ranked team in the final poll three seasons in a row. Four teams have done it in back to back years: Larimore 1978-79, Glen Ullin 1986-87, Langdon 1990-91 and May-Port-CG in 1996-97. Neither of those Langdon teams made the state tournament.

-The #3 ranking has the second most state appearances with 30. However, only one 3rd-ranked team has ever won the state title (Leeds-1999).

-43 of the last 49 state champions have been ranked. 35 of those champions were ranked in the top five. The six state champions that weren't ranked are Wyndmere (1971), Mayville-Portland (1972), Bisbee-Egeland (1989), Standing Rock (1998), North Border (2001) and Milnor (2013). Of those six teams, Bisbee-Egeland, Standing Rock and Milnor did not receive any votes in the final poll.

-Between 1971 and 1992 Hillsboro was ranked or receiving votes each year except 1978 when the Burros went 10-12 and 1987 when they went 16-7.

-In the last 49 years there have been no state tournament where all eight teams were ranked. There have been seven ranked teams twice, in 1984 and 1992. Only one ranked team appeared in the state tournament in 1982. Two ranked teams appeared in 1972, 1978, 1989 and 2014.

-In 49 years there have been 208 ranked teams appearing in the state tournament, an average of just over 4 per season.

These are the most final poll appearances by school since 1970. In parentheses is the number of times the school was ranked first:

If you are counting North Star/Cando you should also be counting Bisbee- Engeland ( thats techincally apart of that co-op and they won state in 89) just goes to show you how really successful that program and area has been in Basketball. With them and FW's trading blow for blow. Was kind of refreshing seeing someone like St John to come into the mix.

For the purposes of this it doesn't matter because Bisbee-Egeland was never ranked in the polls. I combined North Star and Cando because the school has always been in Cando. I did not include Central Valley in Hillsboro's total even though they are combined now. Minnewaukan also appears in many polls but has been a part of so many different coops with Leeds, Sheyenne and now Four Winds that it's a little bit difficult to figure out where to put them. With all of the coops this isn't an exact science.

ndlionsfan wrote:You also have to look at Wolford, Leeds, Minnewaukan, and Munich in that area. A lot of successful runs and programs in basketball within a small radius of towns.

Absolutely. If you look at the history of Class B basketball Traill County is the only area of the state that is stronger. You also have Alsen in the area, which dominated Class C in the late 60's. There are several small towns within 30 minutes of Cando that have been very successful over the years.

ndlionsfan wrote:You also have to look at Wolford, Leeds, Minnewaukan, and Munich in that area. A lot of successful runs and programs in basketball within a small radius of towns.

Absolutely. If you look at the history of Class B basketball Traill County is the only area of the state that is stronger. You also have Alsen in the area, which dominated Class C in the late 60's. There are several small towns within 30 minutes of Cando that have been very successful over the years.

I'd have to agree. Forgot about Starkweather as well.

"There is only one thing in which a person can start at the top - digging a hole"

I believe Todd Trudel had over 30 points in that game and the Cubs still lost. He was an outstanding player. It's also interesting that Edmore made three straight state tournaments and played in two title games without being ranked. They were well coached and always seem to play their best ball at tournament time.

was the 1977 Epping team ranked

Epping was ranked sixth that season, behind Hillsboro, Devils Lake St. Mary's, Larimore, Minnewaukan and Beulah. Beulah beat Epping 63-50 in Beulah in the third game of the season which was Epping's only loss coming into the title game. Epping beat Beulah 50-45 in the regional semifinals that year.

Yes Todd was a machine....he played at Valley City State ......when he was a freshman I think Linden Hochstedtler (spelling) from Wolford was a jr or sr @ VCS

a shadowed team of the 1977 State Class B was Wing (finished 3rd) just because of all the hype of the Hills vs Epp game I remember liking watching Wing (probably smaller than Epping)

do you know if any Wing players went on or have kids that were successful in the Sport ?and was it Hills or Epping who beat them in the semis?

I believe Todd Trudel had over 30 points in that game and the Cubs still lost. He was an outstanding player. It's also interesting that Edmore made three straight state tournaments and played in two title games without being ranked. They were well coached and always seem to play their best ball at tournament time.

was the 1977 Epping team ranked

Epping was ranked sixth that season, behind Hillsboro, Devils Lake St. Mary's, Larimore, Minnewaukan and Beulah. Beulah beat Epping 63-50 in Beulah in the third game of the season which was Epping's only loss coming into the title game. Epping beat Beulah 50-45 in the regional semifinals that year.

Yes Todd was a machine....he played at Valley City State ......when he was a freshman I think Linden Hochstedtler (spelling) from Wolford was a jr or sr @ VCS

a shadowed team of the 1977 State Class B was Wing (finished 3rd) just because of all the hype of the Hills vs Epp game I remember liking watching Wing (probably smaller than Epping)

do you know if any Wing players went on or have kids that were successful in the Sport ?and was it Hills or Epping who beat them in the semis?

Epping over Wing 61-56.Hillsboro over Minnewauken 71-63 in the other semi-final.

winner-within wrote:Yes Todd was a machine....he played at Valley City State ......when he was a freshman I think Linden Hochstedtler (spelling) from Wolford was a jr or sr @ VCS

Todd ('82) played 2 years at Lake Region before going to VC. Lyndon Hochstetler ('80) played 2 years at Lake Region before going to Mayville. Rollie Hochstetler ('78?), Lyndon's older brother, played at VC, but not sure if he was still there when Todd transferred.

winner-within wrote:Yes Todd was a machine....he played at Valley City State ......when he was a freshman I think Linden Hochstedtler (spelling) from Wolford was a jr or sr @ VCS

Todd ('82) played 2 years at Lake Region before going to VC. Lyndon Hochstetler ('80) played 2 years at Lake Region before going to Mayville. Rollie Hochstetler ('78?), Lyndon's older brother, played at VC, but not sure if he was still there when Todd transferred.

thank you!, was doing some research and yes saw they must have transferred, I should have know that too, forgot it was Rollie!was fairly common that VCS picked up JUCO transfers.........Greg Morlock (munich) and Paul Ostby (clearwater mn) went there after there 2 years at UMC Crookston

winner-within wrote:Yes Todd was a machine....he played at Valley City State ......when he was a freshman I think Linden Hochstedtler (spelling) from Wolford was a jr or sr @ VCS

Todd ('82) played 2 years at Lake Region before going to VC. Lyndon Hochstetler ('80) played 2 years at Lake Region before going to Mayville. Rollie Hochstetler ('78?), Lyndon's older brother, played at VC, but not sure if he was still there when Todd transferred.

thank you!, was doing some research and yes saw they must have transferred, I should have know that too, forgot it was Rollie!was fairly common that VCS picked up JUCO transfers.........Greg Morlock (munich) and Paul Ostby (clearwater mn) went there after there 2 years at UMC Crookston

Remember watching Mayville play VC in '81. Believe Al Dvorak played for Mayville State and had some highlight reel dunks. Morlock was a tough player. Lyndon played his freshman year at LR with Steve Brekke. He was there for 1 year prior to transferring to UND. Steve was a stud. Sorry for hi-jacking thread.

Never did see a Minto Dvorak play....heard a lot of stories though....their coach was from my hometown..I Played a lot of ball with and against Brekke (independent) and Morlock (at UMC and independent) the good ol' years

I believe Todd Trudel had over 30 points in that game and the Cubs still lost. He was an outstanding player. It's also interesting that Edmore made three straight state tournaments and played in two title games without being ranked. They were well coached and always seem to play their best ball at tournament time.

was the 1977 Epping team ranked

Epping was ranked sixth that season, behind Hillsboro, Devils Lake St. Mary's, Larimore, Minnewaukan and Beulah. Beulah beat Epping 63-50 in Beulah in the third game of the season which was Epping's only loss coming into the title game. Epping beat Beulah 50-45 in the regional semifinals that year.

Yes Todd was a machine....he played at Valley City State ......when he was a freshman I think Linden Hochstedtler (spelling) from Wolford was a jr or sr @ VCS

a shadowed team of the 1977 State Class B was Wing (finished 3rd) just because of all the hype of the Hills vs Epp game I remember liking watching Wing (probably smaller than Epping)

do you know if any Wing players went on or have kids that were successful in the Sport ?and was it Hills or Epping who beat them in the semis?

Epping over Wing 61-56.Hillsboro over Minnewauken 71-63 in the other semi-final.

I believe Todd Trudel had over 30 points in that game and the Cubs still lost. He was an outstanding player. It's also interesting that Edmore made three straight state tournaments and played in two title games without being ranked. They were well coached and always seem to play their best ball at tournament time.

was the 1977 Epping team ranked

Epping was ranked sixth that season, behind Hillsboro, Devils Lake St. Mary's, Larimore, Minnewaukan and Beulah. Beulah beat Epping 63-50 in Beulah in the third game of the season which was Epping's only loss coming into the title game. Epping beat Beulah 50-45 in the regional semifinals that year.

Yes Todd was a machine....he played at Valley City State ......when he was a freshman I think Linden Hochstedtler (spelling) from Wolford was a jr or sr @ VCS

a shadowed team of the 1977 State Class B was Wing (finished 3rd) just because of all the hype of the Hills vs Epp game I remember liking watching Wing (probably smaller than Epping)

do you know if any Wing players went on or have kids that were successful in the Sport ?and was it Hills or Epping who beat them in the semis?

Epping over Wing 61-56.Hillsboro over Minnewauken 71-63 in the other semi-final.

and Wing wasn't ranked?

Despite coming into the state tournament with just one loss, Wing was not ranked or even receiving votes. That one loss was 68-51 to the Bismarck JV so maybe that had something to do with it?

Wing was also unbeaten during the regular season in 1971 and wasn't ranked that year either. Wing made it back to state in 1978 but had three losses going into the tournament. They did receive votes in the final poll that year.

It shouldn't be that hard to get respect in the polls....although, I think it was harder back then, then nowI remember Wing (now that you say it) did return in 1978, so they must have been a younger team in 77'lived on the farm then and got 3 TV channels....but nobody missed the "B"

winner-within wrote:It shouldn't be that hard to get respect in the polls....although, I think it was harder back then, then nowI remember Wing (now that you say it) did return in 1978, so they must have been a younger team in 77'lived on the farm then and got 3 TV channels....but nobody missed the "B"

Wing lost three starters off the '77 team, including Perry Smith, who led the state tournament in scoring that year. Wing was one of those small towns that really excelled at basketball in the 60's and 70's. They were somehow able to reload every year despite only have around 70 kids in the school. Wing played in four straight region title games from '75 to '78 and also made it that far in '64, '66 and '71. Pretty good for such a small school that had been Class C prior to 1964.

winner-within wrote:It shouldn't be that hard to get respect in the polls....although, I think it was harder back then, then nowI remember Wing (now that you say it) did return in 1978, so they must have been a younger team in 77'lived on the farm then and got 3 TV channels....but nobody missed the "B"

Wing lost three starters off the '77 team, including Perry Smith, who led the state tournament in scoring that year. Wing was one of those small towns that really excelled at basketball in the 60's and 70's. They were somehow able to reload every year despite only have around 70 kids in the school. Wing played in four straight region title games from '75 to '78 and also made it that far in '64, '66 and '71. Pretty good for such a small school that had been Class C prior to 1964.