What If we're wrong?? - Atheist Nexus2015-03-31T22:42:48Zhttp://www.atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/what-if-we-re-wrong-1?feed=yes&xn_auth=noI'd believe he's REAL, before…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2013-04-23:2182797:Comment:22193622013-04-23T23:02:13.327ZDoglyhttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/GaelRMurphy
<p>I'd believe he's REAL, before I'd believe he's GOOD! If real, we'd throw him in prison for life (or infinity, HIS choice)! You know, killing all those babies and <span class="GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct">such</span>.</p>
<p>I'd believe he's REAL, before I'd believe he's GOOD! If real, we'd throw him in prison for life (or infinity, HIS choice)! You know, killing all those babies and <span class="GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct">such</span>.</p> Look up the atheists wager, a…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2013-04-23:2182797:Comment:22195252013-04-23T22:54:44.897ZTravis Finellhttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/TravisFinell
<p>Look up the atheists wager, a variation of Pascal's wager based on the assumption that God is good.</p>
<p>Look up the atheists wager, a variation of Pascal's wager based on the assumption that God is good.</p> You're goin' to Hell, honey!…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2013-04-23:2182797:Comment:22194482013-04-23T22:48:08.919ZDoglyhttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/GaelRMurphy
<p>You're <span class="GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct">goin</span>' to Hell, honey! But only if you believe this silly stuff! The Roman Catholic Apostolic Church says you are damned!</p>
<p>You're <span class="GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct">goin</span>' to Hell, honey! But only if you believe this silly stuff! The Roman Catholic Apostolic Church says you are damned!</p> Wonderful reply Joan. Every b…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2013-04-18:2182797:Comment:22152872013-04-18T01:15:08.499ZMadhukar Kulkarnihttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/MADHUKARKULKARNI
<p>Wonderful reply Joan. Every believer has to say "My god is the true god and your god is false god" to justify his faith. Atheists are the wise people who do not fall in this trap.</p>
<p>Wonderful reply Joan. Every believer has to say "My god is the true god and your god is false god" to justify his faith. Atheists are the wise people who do not fall in this trap.</p> tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2013-04-17:2182797:Comment:22150702013-04-17T14:12:27.034ZJoan Denoohttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/JoanDenoo
<p><a href="http://api.ning.com:80/files/rBZCY6X2uOnadX9DC2GO*mXjmHx3ETtdOi1KwpZj7rvXMaNBtU27BixFVprwD52g26ktFY-gpuv8ddDYPrPB2zifpYhhcJrV/whichgod.jpg" target="_self"><img src="http://api.ning.com:80/files/rBZCY6X2uOnadX9DC2GO*mXjmHx3ETtdOi1KwpZj7rvXMaNBtU27BixFVprwD52g26ktFY-gpuv8ddDYPrPB2zifpYhhcJrV/whichgod.jpg" width="360" class="align-full"/></a></p>
<p><a href="http://api.ning.com:80/files/rBZCY6X2uOnadX9DC2GO*mXjmHx3ETtdOi1KwpZj7rvXMaNBtU27BixFVprwD52g26ktFY-gpuv8ddDYPrPB2zifpYhhcJrV/whichgod.jpg" target="_self"><img src="http://api.ning.com:80/files/rBZCY6X2uOnadX9DC2GO*mXjmHx3ETtdOi1KwpZj7rvXMaNBtU27BixFVprwD52g26ktFY-gpuv8ddDYPrPB2zifpYhhcJrV/whichgod.jpg" width="360" class="align-full"/></a></p> Yes, we face some formidable…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2013-04-17:2182797:Comment:22151242013-04-17T13:52:32.071ZJoan Denoohttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/JoanDenoo
<p>Yes, we face some formidable challenges. Fear immobilizes, stops critical thinking, while it fails to provide any usable solutions. Face fear straight on; use it as normal and healthy gift telling one to stop, think, act. </p>
<p>Yes, we face some formidable challenges. Fear immobilizes, stops critical thinking, while it fails to provide any usable solutions. Face fear straight on; use it as normal and healthy gift telling one to stop, think, act. </p> That's right!tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2013-04-17:2182797:Comment:22148952013-04-17T13:48:24.583ZJoan Denoohttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/JoanDenoo
<p>That's right!</p>
<p>That's right!</p> Life is serious and does not…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2013-04-17:2182797:Comment:22148932013-04-17T13:41:40.305ZJoan Denoohttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/JoanDenoo
<p><a href="http://api.ning.com:80/files/rBZCY6X2uOnFDgUtzH-cW465QN8dCu85BjOVA0qqjBXOOtvWEEQyqu61Lv6OgA4xhXQV1vwt2BAbamaw*ChK42WOADbFZG9l/Useyoursmileto.jpg" target="_self"><img src="http://api.ning.com:80/files/rBZCY6X2uOnFDgUtzH-cW465QN8dCu85BjOVA0qqjBXOOtvWEEQyqu61Lv6OgA4xhXQV1vwt2BAbamaw*ChK42WOADbFZG9l/Useyoursmileto.jpg" width="360" class="align-full"/></a>Life is serious and does not have to be grim! </p>
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<p><a href="http://api.ning.com:80/files/rBZCY6X2uOnFDgUtzH-cW465QN8dCu85BjOVA0qqjBXOOtvWEEQyqu61Lv6OgA4xhXQV1vwt2BAbamaw*ChK42WOADbFZG9l/Useyoursmileto.jpg" target="_self"><img src="http://api.ning.com:80/files/rBZCY6X2uOnFDgUtzH-cW465QN8dCu85BjOVA0qqjBXOOtvWEEQyqu61Lv6OgA4xhXQV1vwt2BAbamaw*ChK42WOADbFZG9l/Useyoursmileto.jpg" width="360" class="align-full"/></a>Life is serious and does not have to be grim! </p>
<p></p> The converse is just as true,…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2013-04-17:2182797:Comment:22148892013-04-17T13:12:38.729ZLoren Millerhttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/LorenMiller
<p>The converse is just as true, though. Don't acknowledge the church's teachings, don't accept their dogma and most of all, DON'T accept the fear they want to project into you, and the church becomes utterly impotent. It loses control, influence, and any form of power over you.<br/><br/>Refuse fear and the church can do NOTHING.</p>
<p>The converse is just as true, though. Don't acknowledge the church's teachings, don't accept their dogma and most of all, DON'T accept the fear they want to project into you, and the church becomes utterly impotent. It loses control, influence, and any form of power over you.<br/><br/>Refuse fear and the church can do NOTHING.</p> My third time in this forum,…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2013-04-17:2182797:Comment:22150682013-04-17T12:48:07.415ZMichael Pennhttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/DennisMichaelPennington
<p>My third time in this forum, Shavante. Please pardon that.</p>
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<p>The question of "what if we are wrong?" has to be looked at in the context of the Christian Bible, or some other earthly "holy book." Without that knowledge, God (if God exists) is not instructing anyone or wanting to send them anywhere. Without that knowledge God never talks to you and doesn't care about you. This is why we say God does not exist. He exists in the pages of these many books. (God healed an amputee…</p>
<p>My third time in this forum, Shavante. Please pardon that.</p>
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<p>The question of "what if we are wrong?" has to be looked at in the context of the Christian Bible, or some other earthly "holy book." Without that knowledge, God (if God exists) is not instructing anyone or wanting to send them anywhere. Without that knowledge God never talks to you and doesn't care about you. This is why we say God does not exist. He exists in the pages of these many books. (God healed an amputee yesterday. Yep, his hand just grew back!)</p>
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<p>Now the question of Hell comes up. The original comparison was to "gehenna," the ever burning garbage dump outside of Jerusalem. The fire never goes out and the trash is simply burned up. The trash doesn't burn forever, but the fire does. Before long the Christians had this allegory turned into a whopper, and also made comparisons to "sheol" which is the grave. If the writings say "God will not leave my soul in Hell" it is assumed that everybody goes there, but you won't stay there. This gave special favors to the Catholics for "pergatory" and sparked "rapture" and "second coming"for the fundamentalists. Jesus was coming again for the faithful in their lifetime, but it never happened. Enter the Christian gullible to extend the time frame for the event.</p>
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<p>Now we add the "soul" into this picture. Everybody is worried about their own personal soul and where it goes when you die, etc. What about your soul? Aren't you worried about you soul? Religionists have a field day with this, but YOU are the soul. You are a living soul and someday you will be a dead soul.</p>
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<p>It's all as simple as that, but nobody wants to die so they made this all up! The "God" of the Bible is not very credible. I'm not worried about being wrong.</p>