Comment by Terrorshark

Genegerbread<The Silver Brotherhood>119 posts120 Void Elf Warrior1412521hHere\u2019s a real look at what\u2019s coming for Battle for Azeroth in terms of content on December 11th:

Two new Island Expeditions that nobody will do. Sure, there\u2019s the new cosmetic vendor, but it\u2019s the same mechanics + a cosmetic vendor and a weekly mission. Still doing the same thing over and over for Azerite.An Arathi re-skin that we\u2019ll do once a month for free Heroic gear without working towards it. Remember that there\u2019s no guarantee that the random item you\u2019ll get will even help you. It\u2019ll probably just grant 395 TF with a socket to an LFR player again. Oh, and half of the playerbase shouldn\u2019t even bet on doing the instance right away. They\u2019ll have to wait another few weeks.Re-skinned world quests that give you a currency for even more cosmetic rewards. Still world quests with no new open world gameplay styles or mechanics. Maybe the item you get from these will give you an upgrade, but considering this is a slot machine, it most likely won\u2019t.A gated questline with like 10 minutes of content a week. Exciting.I\u2019m not hating to hate. I don\u2019t hate the game, nor do any of the players who are voicing their opinions. We\u2019re concerned about the game we love and hate the direction it\u2019s going in. 7.1 was amazing, and even though 8.1 > 6.1, the dislike ratio on the actual videos show that the community isn\u2019t happy at all with the direction this game is taking.

Courtesy of Genegerbread on the forums

Comment by genegerbread

on 2018-12-10T17:03:13-06:00

Oh, that's me! It's true though xD\r\rCommunity\rGeneral Discussion\rThis is what\u2019s actually coming in 8.1\rTHIS IS WHAT\u2019S ACTUALLY COMING IN 8.1\r\rGeneral Discussion\r \rGenegerbread\r<The Silver Brotherhood>\r119 posts\r120 Void Elf Warrior\r14125\r21h\rHere\u2019s a real look at what\u2019s coming for Battle for Azeroth in terms of content on December 11th:\r\rTwo new Island Expeditions that nobody will do. Sure, there\u2019s the new cosmetic vendor, but it\u2019s the same mechanics + a cosmetic vendor and a weekly mission. Still doing the same thing over and over for Azerite.\rAn Arathi re-skin that we\u2019ll do once a month for free Heroic gear without working towards it. Remember that there\u2019s no guarantee that the random item you\u2019ll get will even help you. It\u2019ll probably just grant 395 TF with a socket to an LFR player again. Oh, and half of the playerbase shouldn\u2019t even bet on doing the instance right away. They\u2019ll have to wait another few weeks.\rRe-skinned world quests that give you a currency for even more cosmetic rewards. Still world quests with no new open world gameplay styles or mechanics. Maybe the item you get from these will give you an upgrade, but considering this is a slot machine, it most likely won\u2019t.\rA gated questline with like 10 minutes of content a week. Exciting.\rI\u2019m not hating to hate. I don\u2019t hate the game, nor do any of the players who are voicing their opinions. We\u2019re concerned about the game we love and hate the direction it\u2019s going in. 7.1 was amazing, and even though 8.1 > 6.1, the dislike ratio on the actual videos show that the community isn\u2019t happy at all with the direction this game is taking.\r\rCourtesy of Genegerbread on the forums

Comment by Redemption86

on 2018-12-10T17:48:52-06:00

Oh, that's me! It's true though xD\r\rCommunity\rGeneral Discussion\rThis is what\u2019s actually coming in 8.1\rTHIS IS WHAT\u2019S ACTUALLY COMING IN 8.1\r\rGeneral Discussion\r \rGenegerbread\r<The Silver Brotherhood>\r119 posts\r120 Void Elf Warrior\r14125\r21h\rHere\u2019s a real look at what\u2019s coming for Battle for Azeroth in terms of content on December 11th:\r\rTwo new Island Expeditions that nobody will do. Sure, there\u2019s the new cosmetic vendor, but it\u2019s the same mechanics + a cosmetic vendor and a weekly mission. Still doing the same thing over and over for Azerite.\rAn Arathi re-skin that we\u2019ll do once a month for free Heroic gear without working towards it. Remember that there\u2019s no guarantee that the random item you\u2019ll get will even help you. It\u2019ll probably just grant 395 TF with a socket to an LFR player again. Oh, and half of the playerbase shouldn\u2019t even bet on doing the instance right away. They\u2019ll have to wait another few weeks.\rRe-skinned world quests that give you a currency for even more cosmetic rewards. Still world quests with no new open world gameplay styles or mechanics. Maybe the item you get from these will give you an upgrade, but considering this is a slot machine, it most likely won\u2019t.\rA gated questline with like 10 minutes of content a week. Exciting.\rI\u2019m not hating to hate. I don\u2019t hate the game, nor do any of the players who are voicing their opinions. We\u2019re concerned about the game we love and hate the direction it\u2019s going in. 7.1 was amazing, and even though 8.1 > 6.1, the dislike ratio on the actual videos show that the community isn\u2019t happy at all with the direction this game is taking.\r\rCourtesy of Genegerbread on the forums\rYeah, it's funny because it's true, I'm sure i'll enjoy my whole 2 hours of new content a week lul.

Comment by Terrorshark

on 2018-12-10T18:11:43-06:00

It was a great post. I'm just going to wait until the 22nd of Jan before I even log on.

Comment by Tomtauren

on 2018-12-10T18:36:16-06:00

thanks for the guide! once I do the new content, I'll be love leveling and getting more heritage armors!

Comment by vsavatar

on 2018-12-10T18:38:39-06:00

I wish Blizzard would increase the rep gains from Legion World Quests. It's an unbelievably long grind to unlock allied races, when most WQs only give 75 rep per pop. Highmountain Tauren rep is extremely slow going. I actually halted leveling on this character just so I could keep making use of LFG for Neltharion's Lair without outlevling Legion. I know if I don't do it now, I will not likely go back after getting to 120 and do the rep grind later, so it's now or never. At least Nightfallen went quickly.

Comment by Grimora

Genegerbread<The Silver Brotherhood>119 posts120 Void Elf Warrior1412521hHere\u2019s a real look at what\u2019s coming for Battle for Azeroth in terms of content on December 11th:

Two new Island Expeditions that nobody will do. Sure, there\u2019s the new cosmetic vendor, but it\u2019s the same mechanics + a cosmetic vendor and a weekly mission. Still doing the same thing over and over for Azerite.An Arathi re-skin that we\u2019ll do once a month for free Heroic gear without working towards it. Remember that there\u2019s no guarantee that the random item you\u2019ll get will even help you. It\u2019ll probably just grant 395 TF with a socket to an LFR player again. Oh, and half of the playerbase shouldn\u2019t even bet on doing the instance right away. They\u2019ll have to wait another few weeks.Re-skinned world quests that give you a currency for even more cosmetic rewards. Still world quests with no new open world gameplay styles or mechanics. Maybe the item you get from these will give you an upgrade, but considering this is a slot machine, it most likely won\u2019t.A gated questline with like 10 minutes of content a week. Exciting.I\u2019m not hating to hate. I don\u2019t hate the game, nor do any of the players who are voicing their opinions. We\u2019re concerned about the game we love and hate the direction it\u2019s going in. 7.1 was amazing, and even though 8.1 > 6.1, the dislike ratio on the actual videos show that the community isn\u2019t happy at all with the direction this game is taking.

Courtesy of Genegerbread on the forums

"WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!" is still all I read from people. It's your fault for eating up the content removed

Meanwhile I'm still happily working to get all reps to Exalted outside of 7th Legion. A+ expansion so far. Can't wait to get my Nelf druid those nighty-sky eyes!

Comment by Brunhill

on 2018-12-10T18:46:20-06:00

Seems to me, WOW is only interested in end gamers raiding and mythics. For those of us who enjoy the game in a more casual mode, we know that our professions are useless to us since the high end gear requires grinding mythic duns and raids. Professions are a joke. Too bad, I used to enjoy them.

Comment by stevenstraw

on 2018-12-10T19:38:30-06:00

Leveling & Alts, Classes changes are OK. The rest is garbage. Who really cares about new content that nobody liked the first time around (warfronts and islands). Givez uz da raidz!

Comment by ZeroEdgeir

on 2018-12-10T20:27:18-06:00

For anyone complaining about "no raids til January" - This has happened with EVERY patch that has released at the holidays, over the last 3 expansions. Before that, they would just delay the patch entirely until after.\r\rThey do not want to put out a new raid, right before they go off for the holidays for 2 weeks, with minimal staff present to maintain operations.\r\rSeriously, grow up\/get over it, go play another game instead of complaining that this one isn't consuming your life. It shouldn't be consuming all your free time. It's also the holidays, go see friends and family. Be a person. This is not new, this was expected, and informed to us over a MONTH AGO, before even Blizzcon, that the raid would be after the holidays. Pay attention and have some memory retention...

Comment by sfgsfdgshsdhsf

on 2018-12-10T21:46:48-06:00

"World and Questing\r\r Time to level from 1 to 110 has been reduced by approximately 25%.\r Legion World Quests for the Highmountain Tribe, Nightfallen, Army of the Light, and Argussian Reach now reward increased reputation."

Comment by RobNajjar

on 2018-12-10T21:57:16-06:00

I wish Blizzard would increase the rep gains from Legion World Quests. It's an unbelievably long grind to unlock allied races, when most WQs only give 75 rep per pop. Highmountain Tauren rep is extremely slow going. I actually halted leveling on this character just so I could keep making use of LFG for Neltharion's Lair without outlevling Legion. I know if I don't do it now, I will not likely go back after getting to 120 and do the rep grind later, so it's now or never. At least Nightfallen went quickly.\r\rThey did buff the rep from the 4 allied race factions in 8.1 though. Its in the patch notes, but for some reason not in the survival guide, granted its not 8.1 content

Comment by Terrorshark

on 2018-12-11T00:51:58-06:00

For anyone complaining about "no raids til January" - This has happened with EVERY patch that has released at the holidays, over the last 3 expansions. Before that, they would just delay the patch entirely until after.\r\rThey do not want to put out a new raid, right before they go off for the holidays for 2 weeks, with minimal staff present to maintain operations.\r\rSeriously, grow up\/get over it, go play another game instead of complaining that this one isn't consuming your life. It shouldn't be consuming all your free time. It's also the holidays, go see friends and family. Be a person. This is not new, this was expected, and informed to us over a MONTH AGO, before even Blizzcon, that the raid would be after the holidays. Pay attention and have some memory retention...\r\rThe difference is MoP, Legion and even WoD had more content at launch. BFA has been bug filled, incomplete and had the least content of the past several expansions which is why people are so much more upset.

Comment by Vetochka

on 2018-12-11T01:19:56-06:00

What To Do on Patch Day\r\rExplore the new Island Expeditions, Jorundall and Havenswood.\r\rAs I understand this is not even true. Or did I miss an opportunity to manually pick islands you want to run? I'm almost sure 2 new islands won't be present (especially together) on first patch day\/week. Knowing blizz they are going to "timegate" them as long as possible.

Comment by ChrisNewCooper

on 2018-12-11T06:24:16-06:00

For anyone complaining about "no raids til January" - This has happened with EVERY patch that has released at the holidays, over the last 3 expansions. Before that, they would just delay the patch entirely until after.\r\rThey do not want to put out a new raid, right before they go off for the holidays for 2 weeks, with minimal staff present to maintain operations.\r\rSeriously, grow up\/get over it, go play another game instead of complaining that this one isn't consuming your life. It shouldn't be consuming all your free time. It's also the holidays, go see friends and family. Be a person. This is not new, this was expected, and informed to us over a MONTH AGO, before even Blizzcon, that the raid would be after the holidays. Pay attention and have some memory retention...\r\rThe difference is MoP, Legion and even WoD had more content at launch. BFA has been bug filled, incomplete and had the least content of the past several expansions which is why people are so much more upset.\r\rMore content? BfA has everything that legion had at launch (whith was more than MoP and WoD had) plus warfronts ans Island Expeditions. Its by far the first patch with the most amount of content. The bugs at launch were terrible for sure, but it is mostly normalized now (the bug that disconects you when you try to reload after a DC is the only truly terrible right now).

Comment by r3fusetox

on 2018-12-11T08:40:19-06:00

For anyone complaining about "no raids til January" - This has happened with EVERY patch that has released at the holidays, over the last 3 expansions. Before that, they would just delay the patch entirely until after.\r\rThey do not want to put out a new raid, right before they go off for the holidays for 2 weeks, with minimal staff present to maintain operations.\r\rSeriously, grow up\/get over it, go play another game instead of complaining that this one isn't consuming your life. It shouldn't be consuming all your free time. It's also the holidays, go see friends and family. Be a person. This is not new, this was expected, and informed to us over a MONTH AGO, before even Blizzcon, that the raid would be after the holidays. Pay attention and have some memory retention...\r\rThe difference is MoP, Legion and even WoD had more content at launch. BFA has been bug filled, incomplete and had the least content of the past several expansions which is why people are so much more upset.\r\rMore content? BfA has everything that legion had at launch (whith was more than MoP and WoD had) plus warfronts ans Island Expeditions. Its by far the first patch with the most amount of content. The bugs at launch were terrible for sure, but it is mostly normalized now (the bug that disconects you when you try to reload after a DC is the only truly terrible right now).\r\rat least MOP, WOD and Legion brought something new to the game, they didnt just put new names to the same old (legion) stuff and rebranded them as new :(

Comment by ChrisNewCooper

on 2018-12-11T09:06:07-06:00

For anyone complaining about "no raids til January" - This has happened with EVERY patch that has released at the holidays, over the last 3 expansions. Before that, they would just delay the patch entirely until after.\r\rThey do not want to put out a new raid, right before they go off for the holidays for 2 weeks, with minimal staff present to maintain operations.\r\rSeriously, grow up\/get over it, go play another game instead of complaining that this one isn't consuming your life. It shouldn't be consuming all your free time. It's also the holidays, go see friends and family. Be a person. This is not new, this was expected, and informed to us over a MONTH AGO, before even Blizzcon, that the raid would be after the holidays. Pay attention and have some memory retention...\r\rThe difference is MoP, Legion and even WoD had more content at launch. BFA has been bug filled, incomplete and had the least content of the past several expansions which is why people are so much more upset.\r\rMore content? BfA has everything that legion had at launch (whith was more than MoP and WoD had) plus warfronts ans Island Expeditions. Its by far the first patch with the most amount of content. The bugs at launch were terrible for sure, but it is mostly normalized now (the bug that disconects you when you try to reload after a DC is the only truly terrible right now).\r\rat least MOP, WOD and Legion brought something new to the game, they didnt just put new names to the same old (legion) stuff and rebranded them as new :(\r\rWell, islands expeditions and warfronts are new, they may not be super exciting (pet battles also aren't) but new they are.

Comment by Vetochka

on 2018-12-11T09:55:06-06:00

For anyone complaining about "no raids til January" - This has happened with EVERY patch that has released at the holidays, over the last 3 expansions. Before that, they would just delay the patch entirely until after.\r\rThey do not want to put out a new raid, right before they go off for the holidays for 2 weeks, with minimal staff present to maintain operations.\r\rSeriously, grow up\/get over it, go play another game instead of complaining that this one isn't consuming your life. It shouldn't be consuming all your free time. It's also the holidays, go see friends and family. Be a person. This is not new, this was expected, and informed to us over a MONTH AGO, before even Blizzcon, that the raid would be after the holidays. Pay attention and have some memory retention...\r\rThe difference is MoP, Legion and even WoD had more content at launch. BFA has been bug filled, incomplete and had the least content of the past several expansions which is why people are so much more upset.\r\rMore content? BfA has everything that legion had at launch (whith was more than MoP and WoD had) plus warfronts ans Island Expeditions. Its by far the first patch with the most amount of content. The bugs at launch were terrible for sure, but it is mostly normalized now (the bug that disconects you when you try to reload after a DC is the only truly terrible right now).\r\rat least MOP, WOD and Legion brought something new to the game, they didnt just put new names to the same old (legion) stuff and rebranded them as new :(\r\rWell, islands expeditions and warfronts are new, they may not be super exciting (pet battles also aren't) but new they are.\r\rIt's not exactly these people are complaining about. Compare Legion new features and BfA new features. So actually we have only azerite armor system, warfronts and islands. I dont rly remember smth else unique they added. And we all know how bad each these things are. Unfortunatelly I read about incoming patch and I dont see any fix to them...\r\rAnd now let's count things they removed.\r- World quests: 80% of them is kill 1 "rare" mob, when before we had more "questy" world quests, add removing group finding tools.\r- Artifacts, its traits, tier bonuses. With tier bonuses I can agree (people were rly afraid to break tier bonus for bigger ilvl item, and with titanforge system they had this item, but it was in bags; other solution was - remove titanforging (just saying)). But they totally removed artifact abilities, golden traits. Yes, few of them are present and some abilities are now talents. But they didnt add a new row, so those abilities are staying instead of some other talents. And now we have even more "must have" talents to use. Azerite system also didnt provide anything unique to gameplay as promised (more grind and random is not unique thing), I concider them purely as trinkets... Literally an azerite piece of gear is just another trinket for me with stats and some random proc.\r- 12 class hall stories were replaced into 2 war stories. Each of legion class story at launch was bigger than a war story we have at launch in bfa.\r- table missions... Does any1 even use it in bfa? It's not just useless rewards, it also has no customisation now, no upgrades, removed champion being as follower, and troops are random now.\r- Ashran removed. I'm not a fun of it, but sometimes I played it. And it's hard to see a reason for removing it since we didnt get anything to replace it.\r- pvp world quests removed. Legion expansion had pvp quests, BfA has no pvp world quests. No words...\r- i also didnt like much that they removed custom pvp mounts, replaced them with a fixated mount\r- quests to skip raid wings, artifact skins, stand of the ancients battleground (it was my favorite btw) and a lot of other stuff.\r\rImo, at start I thoung that BfA is Legion + few new features. But now I see that they removed much, much more than added. It's more like WoD + few new featured

Comment by Kellanmayhem

on 2018-12-11T10:15:53-06:00

So just out of curiosity, as it wasn't mentioned anywhere in the upcoming January release either, but weren't we supposed to get Pathfinder 2 so we could fly? Are those new storyline quests part of it, does anyone know? Thank you in advance.