And beating up on our OL isn't something to toot your horn about. I don't think anyone in here ever said that Seattle's defense is average, we all said it was the best if not one of the best in the league.

That's not an insult, it just speaks volumes about how amazing the rest of your defense is.

The edge pass rushers on this Seattle team, as a group, are better than 90% of the rest of the NFL teams.

The only other teams in the discussion are the Rams (Quinn & Long), the Chiefs (Houston and Hali), the Panthers (Hardy and Johnson), and maybe the 49ers (Smith and Brooks).

And it wasn't just "beating up on the Giants OL". It was beating up on a bad offense, yes, but it was a complete and total domination. And it's not like the Seattle defense has had a bad game against ANY offense, really. Maybe the Colts game in Indy, but that's about it.

Your pass rushers are mediocre. Bennett isn't striking fear into anybody. Clemons has been a journeyman his whole career. Irvin isn't even a pass rusher anymore. Avril couldn't even find a suitor other than Seattle. But the rest of your team is amazing.

Calm down, you don't have to be the best in the league at every position. Seattle is clearly the most talented team in the league so I don't get why you're all bothered by what we said.

I told you all to calm down regarding Moore. Loved the pick but let's give him a year before we declare him an answer to our problems.

Glad you're coming around on Hankins. We need to re-sign Linval and have both of them starting next year. Cullen could be the first DT in from rotation. Having that big duo at DT will help the pass rush if JPP is back and healthy.

Your pass rushers are mediocre. Bennett isn't striking fear into anybody. Clemons has been a journeyman his whole career. Irvin isn't even a pass rusher anymore. Avril couldn't even find a suitor other than Seattle. But the rest of your team is amazing.

Calm down, you don't have to be the best in the league at every position. Seattle is clearly the most talented team in the league so I don't get why you're all bothered by what we said.

It's next to impossible to have an elite defense (i mean, top of the line, #1 in the league) without an above-average to elite pass rush.

For you to claim that Seattle's pass rushers are mediocre when they have far and away the #1 defense in the NFL (especially passing defense) is disingenuous at best.

You can have the best cornerbacks in the world but without an above-average pass rush it's impossible to have an elite defense.

Individually your pass rushers are average at best. Put any of them on the Giants any they don't look as good. What's so hard to understand about that? The sum of the parts is greater than any individual contribution on the DL. That takes nothing away from how great your D is. What are you even arguing here?

- Jets have zero edge rush. Their "pass rush" as such is Sheldon Richardson and Muhammed Wilkerson on the inside, who are both better run defenders than pass rushers. Please watch these team's games. There's a reason the Jets are one of the top run defending teams in the NFL but struggle vs the pass.
- Chiefs with Houston and Hali are on par with the Seahawks, sure.
-49ers have a great player in Aldon Smith but as a group are not as good as Bennet, Avril, Clemons, and Irvin.
-Rams with Long and Quinn are probably on par in terms of pass rush.
-Lions have two great DTs but their edge rush is lacking.
-Panthers are on par with the Seahawks.
-Bills are like the 49ers with one good pass rusher and little else.
-Ravens collective group is not as good as the Seahawks. Suggs is a better run defender than pass rusher at this stage in his career
-Texans have JJ Watt and nothing else in terms of pass rush. Brooks Reed and Whitney Mercilus are bad.
- Bengals have Carlos Dunlap and the rest of their guys are not as good as any one of the Seahawks edge rushers.

Again, the only team I'd consider in the discussion are the 49ers, Rams, Chiefs, and Panthers.

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You have great run stuffers and a collection of mediocre pass rushers.

Did you watch yesterdays' game at all? If one of the pass rushers is game planned against or has an off day, another takes over. Case in point: Michael Bennett devouring Eli all day.

Individually your pass rushers are average at best. Put any of them on the Giants any they don't look as good. What's so hard to understand about that? The sum of the parts is greater than any individual contribution on the DL. That takes nothing away from how great your D is. What are you even arguing here?

He's not arguing anything, he's merely a semi-sentient manifestation of the absurdity to which the seahawks/9ers rivalry has gotten as seahawks fans have some how managed to become even more obnoxious than 9ers fans where. So, go them?