PLIGHT OF PUNJAB- Our Pointed Questions to a Govt Tout

PLIGHT
OF PUNJAB- Our Pointed Questions to a Govt Tout

On
yahoo discussion groups we came across the propaganda of Congress Govt through
its PRO named Dalip Singh. We challenged him to prove his identity and answer
the following questions. Dalip Singh
instead of replying like a writer hurled choicest abuses on us and showed his
cowardice. Our questions to the PROs became popular among the readers on the groups and are therefore reproducing
the same for interest of our readers. Dalip's abusing reply is also reproduced
below the questions.

"Due
to the vicious propagenda of both relegade Sikhs and Non-Sikhs
against SIKHISM, the Sikhs are seen
heading toward extinction of our faith. Is it possible
to create a viable state of Khalistan without the Khalsa people in their adequate numerical strength at least??, since we few believers feel the dire Necessity of an independent sovereign state to
exist for us, we must Truly
practice khalsaism and become real
khalsa, and then spread the Khalsa teachings world over on war footing basis. Then there will be Khalistan, not only in India, but world over. There is no other way of creation of Khalistan- Dalip singh"

(REPLY
OF B.S.Goraya)

Dear
Cyber Sangat jio,

Many of
you know that I am not a Khalistani but I am pained to go through the Hindutava
propaganda against Sikhism. While opposition to Khalistan is understandable,
it really hurts why should the Govt ofIndia's
PROs on internet launch a crusade against Sikhism.
But it is happening on a massive scale. I find
there are about two dozen Hindutava persons engaged in this nefarious activity. This ID dalip_singh@... is one of them.

Only a
month ago he was asked whether he himself is a cleanshaven or Khalsa and that he should identify himself
i.e furnish his last address in
India. Readers would be amused to
learn that he resorted to abusing the participants.
We therefore suggest our valued readers that
where ever the mailer doesn't furnish his address,
such a mail be treated as a propaganda one and
be ignored.

However
coming to his present mail, we hereby challenge him to reply our
following queries on his mail:

1.I repeat my question to Lala Dalip Chand to
reveal his identity. Which place in India he comes from?

2.Can Lala Dalip
Chand (or may be Singh) tell us whether he considers Guru Granth Sahib or
Gurbani his guru?

3.We tell our
Lalaji to save your own extinction. The coming age belongs to
information technology where the so
called inaccessible granths would be on net. Can Lalaji or his colleague Chanpardesi tell us what is more threatened Truth or Falsehood? What is
going to be challenged Mannu
Simriti and the host of other anti-humanitarian
scriptures or Guru Granth Sahib?

4.Is it not a
fact that truth has never been threatened of extinction?

5.Is Khalsa not
called phoenix? Has it not happened in history that there were
left only a few Sikhs and then they
swarmed in numbers? (Mannu asadi datri assi mannu de soi ; jio jio mannu wadda da assi doon sawae hoe.) Can you just wait Lalaji the phoenix will
rise and rise very soon.

6. Are Sikhs (or Punjabis) of (East) Punjab not a
full fledged and fully qualified nation?

7.If they are
nation why should they be not entitled to self rule?

8. Are you against the UNO charter that nations
have the right to self rule?

9. What is better: Freedom or Slavery?

10. You say Sikhs have not right to self rule
because they have fallen in character. Can you suggest the same thing to Hindus that they should not have
right to self rule in view of the
frauds and scandals of the Hindu
politicians daily coming to light through press?

11. Are there not nations smaller than the Sikhs
of Punjab which are enjoying self rule?

12. What are your comments on Nehru's pre-
Partition following declaration? "I
find nothing wrong if some area is demarcated in North India where the Sikhs can also feel the glow of freedom."

13. Do you know that the number of people who laid down
their lives for the freedom of India 86% were Sikhs?

14. Have the Punjabis been treated well in
Independent India?

15. Were they (Sikh) not branded as criminals immediately
after Partition?

16.Did the
Congressites leaders kept their promises they made to Sikhs before
Partition?

17.Are you aware
that the Punjabis hold the highest ever record of being the
largest number of people that were
thrown to jails for their legitimate right of language based province: Punjabi Suba?

18. God has blessed Punjab with five rivers. At
times they flood us and cause huge damage to life and property. Do you feel that the international law Riparian Rights is justified in its place
that only such people are the
legitimate owners of the river or streams
which bear the damages causes by these rivers?

19. While our Guru tells us to provide water to
the thirsty and surely the water of Punjab rivers should go to Rajasthan for drinking purposes. But do
you feel is it justified to snatch
away Punjab waters for cultivation
to hundreds of kilometers away when 80% of it
is lost on the way?

20. Where the water would have been more
productive in Punjab or Rajasthan?

21. Are you aware 2/3 of Punjab waters is snatched away
and preferred to be spilled or evapourated?

22. Lalaji are you aware that the ground water
table is going down at a dangerous rate of about 1 foot per year?

23. Lalaji has your Govt given the same status to
the language of Punjabi in Punjab which Bengali enjoys in Bengal?

24. Lalaji have the Sikhs not given up their lives
for Khalistan in history? Do you find some parallel tradition of martyrdom in some other nation as
you find in Sikhs?

25. In view of human rights and equal respects for
all faiths and creed do you find some better example of rule other than the Sikh rule from 1765-1849?

26. Is the Congressite India more secular than the rule
of Maharaja Ranjit Singh?

27.Have you not
snatched away the right of separate electorate from the
minorities which they enjoyed in British
rule?

28. Lalaji in the 1921 census of India Punjab was
one of the top states in terms of literacy in India. Are you aware that with the negative and
discriminatory attitude of your
governements it has slipped down to 22nd
position in India?

29. Are you Lalaji aware that even Himachal with
its tough hilly terrains is ahead of Punjab in terms of child literacy?

30. Are you aware that your religionists are
promoting a number of Sant Deras with the attempt to absorb Sikhs in Hinduism?

31. Don't you have a discriminatory approach to
the industry in Punjab? Don't you have tax concessions for the industries which migrate from Punjab to
Himachal?

32. Why the neighbouring provinces of Punjab
namely Himachal, J&K, Rajasthan, Uttranchal have enacted laws that outsiders (Punjabis) can't buy land in
these states? Have these states not
considered in principle that Punjab
was a separate State?

33. Are you aware that today our beloved Punjab is drowned
in drugs? Are you aware that one third of Punjab
taxable revenue comes from intoxicants? The other day some Lalaji would ask that you Punjabis are by habit drug addicts. I would ask them we come
from the same stock as that of our
brethern in west Punjab. Why liquor
consumption in West Punjab is 1/100th of East
Punjab?

34. The other day (only a week ago) your Indian Express
one of the leading newspaper in India has classed
KPSGill among Nehru, Gandhi, Bhagat Singh, Sardar
Patel et al only for the simple reason that he ordered killings of innocent Sikhs those were detained in police stations. Does it not show your real mindset?

35. In view of thrust of illiteracy, drugs dont
you feel the congressite/BJP govts are hell bent to destroy Punjab?

36. May we know why you have been honouring the following
Sikhs with one or the other important Govt post:-
Dr. Gopal Singh, B.S.Ramoowalia, Jathedar Rachhpal
Singh of Delhi, Mahant Sewadas, Ajit Singh Poohla
Nihang, Jeewan Singh Umranangal? What is/was their service/merit/qualification?

37. Who allowed and helped Gurbax Singh Kala
Afghana to jump bail and fly to Canada? Why he was not arrested on his return despite serious criminal
cases were pending against him?

38.Constitution of
India demands that in Govt services the promotion will purely on the
basis of merit (except SC/ST of
course). Why you have not allowed
to this constitution provision in case of recruitment
to army? Why you are insisting that recruitments
from Punjab should not exceed 1% or 2%? Why
you don't allow merit here?

39.Brahmins are 2%
of the Indian population. They are holding 15% of the top
administration and political posts.
Why you did not impose restriction in case of Brahmins but did in case of Punjabis who are found to get enrolled in army?

40.MY LAST
QUESTION ; LALAJI ARE WE SAFE WITH YOU? I think for the time being this is enough
dose for our Lala Dalip Chand ji.
On his next installment I will release
(if Lord permitted) the second dose. Lalaji what haven't we done for this country. This has been more dear to us than it is to you. Because our
Guru teaches us amity and love. You
have betrayed a simple community of
Saint Soldiers. You will have to pay the price
for it.

B.S.Goraya

(From
Amritsar)

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Dear All,

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

This Harami Congenital Liar, B. S. GORAYA, a
rascal of the highestdegree, has selected few sentences from my
statement promulgated in the addressees of the forums, to justify his
outpourings full of filth. One is wonderstruck how this Harami beast
coins the imaginary false stories, and sets on maligning those who do not toe
his line of thinking. Even by choosing selected sentences from my
statement, which even mean what his mischievious and villanous out-pourings hemade against me, as none of his 40 accusations
of Mega Lies has apparentlyfarthest relation with me. HE HAS ONLY SHOWN NOT
ONLY HIS OWN MEANNESS, BUTTHE LOAFER FAMILY HE COMES FROM, WHO ARE NOT THE
SIKHS INNAME EVEN!! About a couple of months ago, the readers
will recollect that he coined a false story that I was a tout of the
powers that be in India, and worked for a case to get him arrested in
Amritsar in the year 2000 CE, and his idiot friend D.S. Gill, Chairman IHRO came
out in support of his cooked allegations against me. These two Haramies were duly exposed, as the fact TRUTH was that I have been living
in USA since 1979, and also since 1980 I have not
visited India . The readers can well imagine about the veracity of this
mad vindictive man GORAYA, and equally Professional FALSE Witness Bearer
the scoundrel, D.S. GILL, Chairman, IHRO.who claim themselves to be
the custodiasn of Sikhism, and can least be called Sikhs, but SATAN of
the meanest order.. God save us what filth this Satan would be pouring in editing ,
www.punjabmonitor.com,www.kartarpur.com,www.groups.yahoo.com/group/kartarpur/- . My earlier complete statement,published in all addressee forums, reads as under -

" Due
to the vicious propagenda of both renegade Sikhs and Non-Sikhs against SIKHISM, the Sikhs are seen
heading toward extinction of our Faith. The clean Shaved Sikh youth and Bobbed Haired Sikh girls
numbers are ever on the increse day after day, and the Sikh
Society is mere the silent spectator, none to check this tide. The
Sgpc luminaries are themselves the worst culprits, who are merely mad after
their power, and have no love for GURMAT. This doom in Sikhs has been
brought about by Sikhs themselves, by totally reversing the Commands of Sri Guru
Gobind Singh Ji, in that our out of way leanings towards Hindus, and at
their clever prompting, we senselessly bought hatred against Muslims.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO CREATE A VIABLE STATE OF KHALISTAN WITHOUT THE
KHALSA PEOPLE IN THEIR ADEQUATE NUMERICAL STRENGTH AT LEAST??, SINCE WE FEW BELIEVERS FEEL THE DIRE NECESSITY OF AN INDEPENDENT SOVEREIGN
STATE TO EXIST FOR US, WE MUST TRULY PRACTICE KHALSAISM AND BECOME REAL KHALSA,
AND THEN SPREAD THE KHALSA TEACHINGS WORLD OVER ON WAR FOOTING BASIS.
IF WE ARE SINCERE IN OUR ENDEAVOR, SURELY WITH WAHEGURU JI's
BLESSINGS, PEOPLE WILL BECOME KHALSA OF THE LORD. THEN THERE WILL BE KHALISTAN,
NOT ONLY IN INDIA , BUT WORLD OVER. THERE IS NO OTHER WAY OF CREATION OF
KHALISTAN. THE REVERED GURUS, THEMSEVES INCREASED THEIR STRENGTH THROUGH
THE EVOLUTION OF THE KHALSA CHARACTER AND BY SPREADING THE CREED OF
KHALSAISM. SRI GURU GOBIND SINGH JI
FORETOLD BHAI NAND LAL IN ANSWERING HIS QUESTION, THAT THERE WILL BE TIME WHEN
KHALSA SHALLN PREVAIL FROM EAST TO WEST, AND KHALSA SHALL RULE. THIS IS THE
RIPE TIME FOR WORLD WIDE KHALSA EDUCATION, WHEN THERE IS THE EARNEST DESIRE IN
PEOPLE FOR THE PEACE GIVING HOLY NAME OF THE CREATOR LORD, SO BEAUTIFULLY
PREACHED BY THE REVERED GURUS ALONE. DALIP
SINGH" This
Goraya himself is farther from GURMAT, BUT ACRUALLY A Satan and totally a
faithless man, his total anchor is to tell MEGA LIES - this Bastard and
the organizations he represent, who have never raised voice against
the writings Kala Afghana, and his vociferous s[okesman Kirpal Singh Nijher in
ridiculing Sri Deshmesh Ji and The Divine Gurbaninin Sri Dasam Granth Ji
and so are his vicious forums from which all lies are promulgated
day in and day out. THIS BASTARD IS THE
LEAST SIKH,AND IS THE ENEMY OF SIKHISM, A COBRA IN THE
GRASS TO KILL SIKHISM WITH SIKHSLOCK STOCK AND BARREL.. His
accusation of others is sheer mockery of his unsikh activities. Can this
Bastard quote a single authentic instance of my Hindavata writings with proof? What a MEGA
LIE this villain makes, when he states shamelessly, " I find there are about two dozen
Hindutava persons engaged in this nefarious
activity. This IDdalip_singh@...is one of them. Only a month ago
he was asked whether he himself is a cleanshaven or Khalsa and that he
should identifyhimself i.e furnish
his last address in India . Readers
would be amused tolearn that he
resorted to abusing the participants.
We therefore suggest our valued readersthat
where ever the
mailer doesn't furnish his address, such a mail be treated as a propaganda
one and be ignored." THIS
HARAMI IS HIMSELF A CLEANSHAVEN OR COBRA IN GRASS TO HARM SIKHISM!!
Who is telling the Truth, this
CONGENITAL LIAR, WHO TOTALLY BLOCKED MY
FORCEFUL STATEMENT ON THE NECESSITY TO BECOME PRACTICING KHALSA TO
WIN FREEDOM
FOR OURSELVES, OR ME WHO HAS EVER BEEN PRACTICING AND PREACHING KHALSA
CREED AS AN AMRITDHARI KHALSA?? THE READERS WILL NOTE THAT THIS BASTARD
IMPOSTOR IS EXACTLY USING THE SAME WORDS AND PHRASEOLOGY AS USED BY CHRISTIAN
CONVERT SO CALLED ANOTHER LUNATIC CHAUDHURY RAJINDER NIJJAR!! It
will be interest to note his Observation No 2. This clearly shows that
he is a Bastard, as he does not accept Sri Deshmesh Ji Command to accept
THE FIVE CHOSEN KHALSA, WHO SHOULD BE THE GURU - GOD MANIFEST IN THEM -
"VICH SANGAT HAR PRABH VASAI JIO." WAHEGURU JI ABIDES IN ALL CREATURES
IN HIS JOT FORM, AND WE ARE COMMANDED TO LIVE WITH THIS "JAGAT
JOT". SRI ADI GRANTH JI AND SRI DASAM GRANTH JI BOTH CONTAIN DIVINE BANI,
WHICH AS SUCH IS FORMLESS
GOD HIMSELF. BUT WHEN BANI IS REDUCED TO WRITING ON PAPER, THE MATERIAL GRANTH
OF PAPER AND CARD BOARD COVER IS LIFELESS, CANNOT BE CALLED AS "GURU"
- THE LIVING GOD, BECAUSE GRANTH IS THE MATERIAL LIFELESS THING. WE CANNOT
MEDITATE ON GRANTH JI, BUT CAN ON GURBANI,
WHICH IS GOD/ THIS POINT HAS BEEN CLARIFIED BY THIS WRITER FOR THE LAST
TWO YEARS REPEATEDLY, QUOTING VERSES FROM SRI ADI GRANTH JI ITSELF. HERE
ALSO THE BIG QUESTION ARISES, WHY THIS HARAMY DISCRIMINATES THE
DIVINE BANI OF SRI DESHMESH JI - IT TOO CAME FROM GOD THROUGH THE XTH GURU!!. ALL
THOSE WHO DISOBEY DESHMESH JI's COOMMANDS, ARE BASTARDS AND ARE
IDOLATORS, LIKE HINDUS, AND THIS SATAN IS ONE AND THE BIGGEST FOOL, HE IS AN
CONFIRMED ENEMY OF SIKHISM, EITHER CLEAN SHAVEN OR IMPOSTOR IN SIKH
GARB. ENEMY OF SIKHISM LIKE LUNATIC CHAUDHURY NIJJAR AND KIRPAL SINGH
NIJJAR. WHAT THIS BASTARD WITH HIS LONG TONGUE HAS
DONE SO FAR FOR CREATION OF
KHAKISTAN, WHEN HE HIMSELF IS NOT A SIKH EVEN - A CHARACTERLESS CONGENITAL
LIAR PROVEN MANY TIMES. THE WAYS ADOPTED BY SIKH TERRORISTS HAVE NOT
BEEN TAUGHT BY THE GURUS TO
ESTABLISH SIKH RULE, AS THEY NEVER AGGRESSWED AGAINST ANY ONE TO IMPOSE
THEIR VIEWS AND CREED. THEY TAUGHT US TO RAISE OUR OWN CHARACTER BY EVER
LIVING WITH WAHEGURU JI, AND SPREAD THE CREED OF THE DIVINE NAAM
EVERYWHERE, THIS WAS THE WAY THEY INCREASED THEIR STRENGTH AND TAUGHT US
TO DO SO. THE TERRORISTS WAYS ADOPTED EALIER HAD NOT ONLY MISERABLE
FAILURE. BUT HAVE PROVED FATAL TO OUR VERY EXIS TENCE , THE ILL
EFFECT OF WHICH WE ARE EXPERIENCING. FOR THE LAST THREE CENTURIES, WHEN
WE REVERSED THE SIKH TEACHINGS/ THIS
HARAMI IS WORKING FOR OUR TOTAL DESTRUCTION IN THIS ATOMIC AGE, BY
ADOPTING TERRORISTS METHODS. SUPPOSING WE GET SOME PART OF EASTBPUNJAB
AND FORM SO CALLED KHALISTAN, WHEN HARDLY ONE PERCENT OF WE SIKHS ARE NOT
AMRITDHARIS, AND ARE NOT LOYAL TO SIKHISM. BELIEVE IT, THAT KHALISTAN IF
EVOLVED, WILL HARDLY EXIST FOR A FORTNIGHT. HARAMI, FIRST LEARN TO BE A KHALSA, LEAD A TRUTHFUL,
SINCERE AND DEVOTED LIFE, BELIEVE IN WAHEGURU JI, WHO ALONE IS THE DOER
- THE LORD EVER REWARDS OUR SINCERE PRAYERS. HARAMI,UNDERSTAND WHAT GURBANI TEACHES US, AND NEVER LIKE
A LUBATIC BOAST OF YOURMIGHT. BE HUMBLE, EVER PRAY FOR HIS GRACE. THE
MIGHTIEST LIKE DEMONHARNAKASH, HITLER, STALIN HAVE PERISHED, AND THE
LORD HONORS THE MEEK.

LASTLY, I ASK THIS FAITHLESS BASTARD AND ALL
WHO HAD BEEN BLINDLY TOEING
THE POLICIES OF HINDUS , WHY THE HINDUIZED SIKHS TOEDE THE COMMANDS OF
FANATICAL HINDUS DURING 1947 IN ACCEPTING THE PARTITION OF THE COUNTR, WHEN WE
WERE TO BE LEFT AT THE MERCY OF HINDU MASTER? WE TOTALLY IGNORED THE
BRUTAL TREATMENT METED OUT BY GURU ARJAN DEVJI AND ESHMESH JI. AT THE INSTANCE
OF HINDUS AND THEIR INSTIGATIONS, WE SIKHS BOGHT ENMITY WITH MUSLIMS .
WHY WE SIKHS ACCEPTED HINDU PROPSAL OF PARTI ION OF INDIA, AND EVEN
REJECTED ACCE THE RESPECTABLE PROPOSAL OF MUSLIMS, FOR US TO HAVE OUR OWN
INDE PE NDE NCE ALONG WITH THEM. IT WAS WE SIKH THEMS ELVE S WHO OPTED FOR
SLA VE RY FOR OUR S ELV ES. WE OURSE LVES HA VE BEEN ALL A LONG REV ERS ING
THE GURU COMMANDS, AND HAD REVERTE D BACK TO HINDUS TO OUR DISASTE R.
THE ONLY SOLUTION I REITERATE IS TO BECOME AMRIT DHARI KHA LSA, AND SPREAD
KHALSA ISM ON WAR FOOTING .