Living tribunal is heavily out of his weight class. Any of team 1 blink him out of existence. Nate has feats on par with or greater than PR Beyonder. EGDB killed her by looking at her. I heard aurora is around EGDB tier if so team1 comfortably.

EGDB is only Multiversal VIA summoning infinite number of Universe busting selves. This, has been well documented over and over. That Mech's feats only stop around baseline Multiversal. The only thing EGDB is stomping is HOTU Thanos since the HOTU was retconned to be Universe level in feats. Reinhard is also baseline Multiversal, but is more direct in that department of power than Demonbane is.

LT is too inconsistent to be properly gauged. He has conflicting descriptions from being the Embodiment of the Multiverse, to being a function inside it, to existing in all of it. Regardless, Marvel's Multiverse is pretty huge and has become similar to being Metaversal Quantum expansion when you compare it to DC as of recent.

Personally, I think Beyonder and Featherine would stalemate since they are literally around the same level in theory. Above an infinite hierarchy.

Dimensional tiering becomes irrelevant and useless if two fictions uses a more accurate Quantum Multiverse theory system. Because any kind of a Multiverse whether it be 5Dimensional or 7 Dimensional is always instantaneously expanding and multiplying itself to contain infinite possibilities ad infinitium.

Where does it say beyond all dimensions of space time? It just says beyond dimensions. And doesn't even say all dimensions. This is another instance of Anime fan wanking of scans not saying that you are saying it is saying.

The word "Beyond" is another set of one of the most wanked flowery terminologies we hear from VN/Anime debaters. It is an unsatisfactionary word that is not provable or truly definable and is no better than what the people wanking that word say about Omnipotence.

You can say a character is beyond the tashbag or trashcan. That contains no information of viability to me. Does that mean you can destroy a trashcan? And if so, how casually? What is the energy output exerted? See? This is the reason why many on this forum hate that stupid 'beyond' word wanking.

Dimensions could just mean pocket dimensions. Beyond could just going outside of Universes. It says nothing about destroying those said dimensions.

Demonbane's Multiverse is just a single normal Multiverse that might just be near-infinite and not truly infinite according to the main writer. So being beyond or outside a normal sized Multiverse is not a good feat and is just baseline Multiversal. And that's just locationary.

EG Demonbane has no feats of destroying an Infinite Multiverse on his own. But Vortex Blaster Demonbane does and he's more powerful than EG.

I already destroyed many Demonbane wankers on this issue, they either conceded or fell off leaving this forum. Do not try me. I already gave the evidence. I am not interested in humoring cognitive dissonance.

The only thing capable of standing a single ground against Team Comics is Featherine, and she cannot take Team Comics Pre-Retcon and Composite forms alone, Featherine is roughly around equal or above to HOTU Thanos and such since LT and HOTU Thanos are massively above beings like Eternity, Infinity, Chaos and Order who are Infinite Dimensional beings. Each on Team 2 (minus Beyonder) is recognizable threat to her. So Team 2 wins.

People who answer anime are not giving their reasons why. And secondly, Team Anime are originated from Visual Novels, not Anime. Minus Featherine, Reinhard and EGD are one of the most overwanked characters wanked the hell out of everything with that Outerverse non sense system.

Anime characters have a very poor high end feat track record, and most of them hardly go beyond Baseline Multiversal. Most of the High End Characters from Japanese Media and Animation are strangely nearly most isolated to Visual Novels.

Characters created by the imaginations of White People from the west on the other hand end up topping at High End Multiversal to Omniversal and Infinite Dimensional Levels that randomly come from Lovecraft and Dark Tower (Novels), Marvel and DC (Comics) and Sci-Fi High Ends (Warhammer 40K) and other other media.

It's ridiculous that some extremist weebs like to make this war against comics to imply the Japanese make stronger characters than the west when they're only targetting comics and using Japanese high ends exclusively originating from VNs. LMFAO

If you're gonna use VNs to imply Anime > West, then you have to take on Warhammer 40k, Elder Scrolls, Lovecraft, and the many Multiversal power houses the west has to offer. Please don't 'non-sense' us again.

I'm not making an attack on weebs however, I have several weeb buddies and acquaintances, but wanking nerds like Demonbane wankers should be dealt with.

@sungsam: also is toribot is in the same league as presence and one above all before the retcon ?

Presence and the One Above All ruled, and still rules over Infinite Higher Dimensional Multiverses, Toribot is at best baseline Multiversal and that's already wanking him from the unclear weakly solidified Dragonball cosmology, he is less than a nothing-ant to Presence and TOAA before the retcon. Current Presence can actually still kick Toribot's ass.

@sungsam: ok thanks actually in a youtube video some dbz said that toribot own marvel and dc multiverse something lol now i understand that they were trolling

That. is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Even VSBattles doesn't think Toribot is that strong, and VSBattles wanks the hell out of various VNs, and was groomed by various circle with the ACFWiki, that ACFWiki that I hear began with Dragonball wankers.

Toribot would be lucky if Mxyzptlk, Spectre or Mandrakk even notices Toribot. Toribot is an insect. An infinitesimal one.

EGDB is only Multiversal VIA summoning infinite number of Universe busting selves. This, has been well documented over and over. That Mech's feats only stop around baseline Multiversal. The only thing EGDB is stomping is HOTU Thanos since the HOTU was retconned to be Universe level in feats. Reinhard is also baseline Multiversal, but is more direct in that department of power than Demonbane is.

LT is too inconsistent to be properly gauged. He has conflicting descriptions from being the Embodiment of the Multiverse, to being a function inside it, to existing in all of it. Regardless, Marvel's Multiverse is pretty huge and has become similar to being Metaversal Quantum expansion when you compare it to DC as of recent.

Personally, I think Beyonder and Featherine would stalemate since they are literally around the same level in theory. Above an infinite hierarchy.

Dimensional tiering becomes irrelevant and useless if two fictions uses a more accurate Quantum Multiverse theory system. Because any kind of a Multiverse whether it be 5Dimensional or 7 Dimensional is always instantaneously expanding and multiplying itself to contain infinite possibilities ad infinitium.

Except war god demonbane already had infinite klien bottles below his knees (or was it ankles) putting his size alone at>>>>>>multiversal. Also simultaneously destroying and recreating an infinite amount of universes(I think multiverses) as a side effect of the fight with liber liegis, not the actual attack itsel, the side effect was what did all that destruction. Existing in a universe of non existence, causality manipulation etc. that’s war god. EGDB blinks out people that blink out war god and liber liegis.

Living Tribunal is a non-factor here. Anyways, with Augustus Aurora, the anime team stomps. She considers her verse as a ''fiction'', Is at the last border of omnipotence, etc. She just writes herself stronger, like she did in the fight with lamdadelta. When we go after feats:

EGDB is only Multiversal VIA summoning infinite number of Universe busting selves. This, has been well documented over and over. That Mech's feats only stop around baseline Multiversal. The only thing EGDB is stomping is HOTU Thanos since the HOTU was retconned to be Universe level in feats. Reinhard is also baseline Multiversal, but is more direct in that department of power than Demonbane is.

LT is too inconsistent to be properly gauged. He has conflicting descriptions from being the Embodiment of the Multiverse, to being a function inside it, to existing in all of it. Regardless, Marvel's Multiverse is pretty huge and has become similar to being Metaversal Quantum expansion when you compare it to DC as of recent.

Personally, I think Beyonder and Featherine would stalemate since they are literally around the same level in theory. Above an infinite hierarchy.

Dimensional tiering becomes irrelevant and useless if two fictions uses a more accurate Quantum Multiverse theory system. Because any kind of a Multiverse whether it be 5Dimensional or 7 Dimensional is always instantaneously expanding and multiplying itself to contain infinite possibilities ad infinitium.

Except war god demonbane already had infinite klien bottles below his knees (or was it ankles) putting his size alone at>>>>>>multiversal. Also simultaneously destroying and recreating an infinite amount of universes(I think multiverses) as a side effect of the fight with liber liegis, not the actual attack itsel, the side effect was what did all that destruction. Existing in a universe of non existence, causality manipulation etc. that’s war god. EGDB blinks out people that blink out war god and liber liegis.

Klein Bottles are just Time Looping Universes, this has been described over and over again, and the Ouroboros Serpent was compared to it.

That "Universe in Universe in Universe" infinite chain quote was a metaphor, because a Klein Bottle' time space continuum loops in itself and contains itself, that's why it's called a Klein Bottle, it loops back to itself back to a singularity and back again. Hagane (the head author of Demonbane) will even tell you himself.

THIS, is a Klein Bottle concept in math and science that Hagane openly used for the Klein Bottles in Demonbane. There are no Multiverses in it, it's just a time space brane that loops itself.

I'm not too sure about Wargod Demonbane destroying infinite number of this, but even then, I don't think it's ever been confirmed that EGD is stronger than War God Demonbane. We already know that EGD has no power over Vortex Blaster Demonbane, so why should all Demonbanes automatically get scaled under Elder God Demonbane? EGD on his own has barely any feats at Multiversal.

Now dude, when I tell you evidence, the author is portraying Demonbane as a Baseline Multiverse, and telling you it does not contain alternate universes, and saying it's just a time looping metaphor, you better be suspicious that you are being mislead by wank. And taking the metaphors out of context.

Even the last installation of Demonbane (DYN Freaks) proved Demonbane was just a normal baseline Infinite Multiverse when Vortex Destroyer DB destroyed everything in existence by destroying infinite universes except the world egg. That alone proves that to destroy Demonbane's Omniverse only required destroying infinite universes. Even Mxy can do that.

If you have a problem with this, you take it up with the mathematicians who came up with the Klein Bottle concept and Hagane using this as his select chosen metaphor for a Universe that is looping itself. And Hagane telling you there are no alternate universes in them.

Everything in Demonbane can at best ever hope to cap out at Baseline Multiversal or maybe a little bit above, but never Megaversal, not even close. Same thing with the Atziluth users really.

I already debunked all Demonbane myths, rendering it as just a baseline Multiversal fiction. That's why I am so openly confident in challenging Demonbane, I can back up the debunk.