''The Crown says that's an important conversation because it really reveals a recognition on the part of all those people that they are part of a terrorist organisation.'' Mr Maidment said when police broke the stolen car ringand arrested members of the group, Benbrika was more worried about whether police knew about the group's true purpose.

He said Benbrika taught his followers that Muslims were obliged to take action because Australia was a land of war. ''It was an obligation to pursue violent jihad ... it was that teaching and that philosophy that underpinned that organisation,'' he said.

Earlier, Mr Maidment said the men came together with a common ideology and the group had a clear structure and purpose. The evidence showed they were training, gathering chemicals and material to attack Melbourne train stations or sporting venues. ''We are seeking to persuade you that the evidence is sufficiently able ... to present a clear picture of the activities they were engaged in,'' he said.

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