Also for someone who trivialized the losses that he inflicted on others with "it's just pixels" he sure seemed to cry a lot when he got the initial 90 ban. IMHO things would have turned out differently if he had just apologized and explained that he really didn't mean to make any real life threats. Instead he tried to project the impression that he could take down CCP if they messed with him.

There isn't a single player in this game who has the kind of control and power that Helicity Boson claimed to have...

Originally by:Hecatonisdoes anyone else find it ironic that the leader of an organization set up mainly to cause tears and aggravation to those that are unprepared and defenseless goes all rage and weepy when he is attacked by a foe that he is unprepared for and completely defenseless from?

karma is a lot like someone i dated, she was a ***** too you know.

Just read your post. Not only do you win Eve, but you've pointed out the reason why I have absolutely no sympathy for Helicity Boson -he reaped what he sowed...

Good Riddance , guy had legitimate concerns but expressed himself like a whiny petulant child. It's disgracefull the kind of language most of you consider appropriate in a public forum. It's irrelevant what he said the arrogance and rudeness involved should be sufficient excuse for ccp. If he had any intelligence whatsoever he would have done a lot more damage by waging his "war" in a concise manner not like a raging 12 year old.

Also for someone who trivialized the losses that he inflicted on others with "it's just pixels" he sure seemed to cry a lot when he got the initial 90 ban. IMHO things would have turned out differently if he had just apologized and explained that he really didn't mean to make any real life threats. Instead he tried to project the impression that he could take down CCP if they messed with him.

There isn't a single player in this game who has the kind of control and power that Helicity Boson claimed to have...

There was no death threat, so CCP lied again.The permaban was for refusing to bow down and submit, I say it was well earned in the sense that Helicity earned his badge of freedom and courage in the face (or the facelessness) of tyranny.

Indeed if CCP (no need to personalize the Beast by naming the GM who did the deed) hadn't lied and instead had just claimed the unilateral right to ban whoever they choose, this would have been much less aggravating to lovers of freedom.

Yes he acts like a kid on a high horse, so what ? He did more than most wise-arses here.

As for being an organizer of griefing and being payed in kind by karma, very well. But EVE thrives on the publicity procured by mass griefing which makes the news in the gaming industry and brings more customers. You want these new customers to come here and learn that the dudes who did the deeds that fascinated them into giving the game a try, were banned under deceitful motives for speaking up to the big bad ice lizard aliens running the show ?

When did CCP speak up to say "we are not a game where griefing is encouraged" ?In that sense, HB was not only a part of the community but one CCP cashed on willingly and admittedly.Hulkageddon made the news, didnt it ?Each time a big scam made the news, did CCP condemn it? No, they said "we like being the game where this is possible".Now what ?Double language.

Who's the carebear whiner here? Is it HB or the staff who banned him ?Think about it.Karma (the simple working of the law of action and reaction) does work for everyone, HB got his share, CCP is getting its own as well.

Edited by: Soi Mala on 10/08/2011 14:03:58Edited by: Soi Mala on 10/08/2011 14:03:16I was listening to the radio the other day about a woman who fought in the war against the ****s. She was hailed as a her0ine for the countless lives she saved, after being trained by the british secret service, joining the french resistance, seeing here husband murdered, being captured, escaping, and then returning to smuggle hundreds of innocent people to safety, she was awarded countless honors and medals from the USA, UK, and France.

Then they played a voice clip of here from a year or 2 ago, she was 95years old i think... and it was along the lines of "I loved killing Germans. The only good German was a dead one and the deader the better. I rejoice in the fact I killed them, I only regret I couldn't kill more."

Quote:Eve was my passion, my treasured hobby, my favorite pastime. And when you guys decide to **** with that, I will literally come down on you like a ton of bricks. I have the players’ ears now, not you. You would do well to remember that.

This guy is truely delusional...

well. after all there is idiots who made big picture of this "hero" in theirs rooms and prey to it every morning.

Originally by:Jak SilverheartYup it was banned in favor of the Monoclegeddon.

I have a list of 12 monocle wearers who I've confirmed owned them, not just some people who say they own it but people who actively wear them. And I am willing to sell them to you for a price, which will get you ahead of the game on this event.

Originally by:Jak SilverheartYup it was banned in favor of the Monoclegeddon.

I have a list of 12 monocle wearers who I've confirmed owned them, not just some people who say they own it but people who actively wear them. And I am willing to sell them to you for a price, which will get you ahead of the game on this event.

Originally by:Jak SilverheartYup it was banned in favor of the Monoclegeddon.

I have a list of 12 monocle wearers who I've confirmed owned them, not just some people who say they own it but people who actively wear them. And I am willing to sell them to you for a price, which will get you ahead of the game on this event.

This is actually a good idea

Monoclegeddon is a good way to protest ^_^

"Why you blow me up?!!"

"because you're a Monocle wearing tard..."

Waiting eagerly.

You must feel super safe and warm and fuzzy, what if that was to change and suddenly you explode and the last scenes you see in your pod is a late arrival of concord after your lovely expensive faction fitted ship has been destroyed. Then someone pods you for the lulz and destroys your expensive implants, god damn all that wasted real life money, it must suck to be you.

Originally by:Jade CargoQuite frankly people are waaaay too aggressive, arrogant and flat out rude just because they hide behind the anonymity of the interwebz. It's not hard to be even mildly polite. Moar permabans pls.

Seriously though - if you think this is an acceptable way to converse with a complete stranger, then you may want to reset your opinion of 'acceptable'. I believe the term is 'normalisation of deviance'. It isn't acceptable. Not even close. And let's not try to debate whether it was a 'real life threat' or not. It's just plain wrong.

I have the belief that the core, base character of a person is revealed through this anonymity. It helps me discern whom I would not rather to get too close to in-game or out.

I think it is kind of dumb of eve to so nonchalantly slap a perma-ban on such a prominent member of the community... it reeks of CCP responding emotionally, instead of thinking things through.

Prominent leaders in EVE, whatever their opinions may be, have a lot of followers, and can generate positive PR or negative PR for CCP. Perma-banning a player, though, generally only results in negative PR.

How CCP should have handled this... they should have tried to diffuse the situation, give the guy a chance to cool off, be a bit more understanding, and at worst, put a temporary ban on his account. Helicity Boson was angry, for whatever reason. We've all been there, getting mad at someone for whatever reason. How hard is it though, really, to tell a guy, look, you're mad, we get it. Take a few days to cool off.

If Helicity Boson wanted to keep playing the EVE, nothing can stop him from making another account. But, obviously, making another account means starting at 0 SP. How many SP did Helicity Boson have, when CCP banned him? How much time and effort is essentially wasted, when a major member of the community gets perma-banned? Years. Years, of Helicity's efforts, get wiped out, simply because some CCP employee feels like being a jack-ass, and has the power to be a tyrant.

I don't know Helicity Boson at all. But really now, CCP. Save the perma-bans for people who actually deserve it. Because a perma-ban basically amounts to screaming "F**K YOU" into someone's face, spitting on them, and then kicking their car off a cliff. (the car, in this analogy, being an eve account)

Helicity was permabanned for making a "threat" (as if they are even realistic, to threaten over the internet some random person), while at the same time the ****ING botters and RMTers are free to run around ****ing up the game, they barely get perma banned.

Originally by:Jak SilverheartYup it was banned in favor of the Monoclegeddon.

I have a list of 12 monocle wearers who I've confirmed owned them, not just some people who say they own it but people who actively wear them. And I am willing to sell them to you for a price, which will get you ahead of the game on this event.

This is actually a good idea

Monoclegeddon is a good way to protest ^_^

"Why you blow me up?!!"

"because you're a Monocle wearing tard..."

Waiting eagerly.

You must feel super safe and warm and fuzzy, what if that was to change and suddenly you explode and the last scenes you see in your pod is a late arrival of concord after your lovely expensive faction fitted ship has been destroyed. Then someone pods you for the lulz and destroys your expensive implants, god damn all that wasted real life money, it must suck to be you.

35k EHP Hulk requires more than one alpha Battleship to destroy even though you can only online like one laser. I offer this advice free of charge knowing full well that Hulk pilots neither view the forum nor know how to troll-fit a ship.

Originally by:Dirk Magnum35k EHP Hulk requires more than one alpha Battleship to destroy even though you can only online like one laser. I offer this advice free of charge knowing full well that Hulk pilots neither view the forum nor know how to troll-fit a ship.

I look forward eagerly to the next Hulkageddon.

well exactly, I like your enthusiasm, if people just quit crying about everything and adapt to the challenges there would be no problem.

Originally by:Alaura AquilaI get the feeling all these changes might have something to do with the liaison that CCP is having with Sony.

Well i'd say thats news to me but since they are releasing dust on the PS, I'd think they have indeed sold their soles so to speak. The moment CCP stand along side with sony is the moment I delete all my characters because sony are an evil company that actually kills people that speak out against them...

I'm talking about people that have credibility and own over half their publishing...

Originally by:WeirdNoiseThere was no death threat, so CCP lied again.The permaban was for refusing to bow down and submit, I say it was well earned in the sense that Helicity earned his badge of freedom and courage in the face (or the facelessness) of tyranny.

Indeed if CCP (no need to personalize the Beast by naming the GM who did the deed) hadn't lied and instead had just claimed the unilateral right to ban whoever they choose, this would have been much less aggravating to lovers of freedom.

Yes he acts like a kid on a high horse, so what ? He did more than most wise-arses here.

As for being an organizer of griefing and being payed in kind by karma, very well. But EVE thrives on the publicity procured by mass griefing which makes the news in the gaming industry and brings more customers. You want these new customers to come here and learn that the dudes who did the deeds that fascinated them into giving the game a try, were banned under deceitful motives for speaking up to the big bad ice lizard aliens running the show ?

When did CCP speak up to say "we are not a game where griefing is encouraged" ?In that sense, HB was not only a part of the community but one CCP cashed on willingly and admittedly.Hulkageddon made the news, didnt it ?Each time a big scam made the news, did CCP condemn it? No, they said "we like being the game where this is possible".Now what ?Double language.

Who's the carebear whiner here? Is it HB or the staff who banned him ?Think about it.Karma (the simple working of the law of action and reaction) does work for everyone, HB got his share, CCP is getting its own as well.

I say good for everyone involved.

You people act as if CCP is some government. It's a private enterprise. They can do whatever they want within the terms of the contract you signed with them. There is no such thing as civil rights. If you don't like it, don't pay for it!

Originally by:WeirdNoiseThere was no death threat, so CCP lied again.The permaban was for refusing to bow down and submit, I say it was well earned in the sense that Helicity earned his badge of freedom and courage in the face (or the facelessness) of tyranny.

Indeed if CCP (no need to personalize the Beast by naming the GM who did the deed) hadn't lied and instead had just claimed the unilateral right to ban whoever they choose, this would have been much less aggravating to lovers of freedom.

Yes he acts like a kid on a high horse, so what ? He did more than most wise-arses here.

As for being an organizer of griefing and being payed in kind by karma, very well. But EVE thrives on the publicity procured by mass griefing which makes the news in the gaming industry and brings more customers. You want these new customers to come here and learn that the dudes who did the deeds that fascinated them into giving the game a try, were banned under deceitful motives for speaking up to the big bad ice lizard aliens running the show ?

When did CCP speak up to say "we are not a game where griefing is encouraged" ?In that sense, HB was not only a part of the community but one CCP cashed on willingly and admittedly.Hulkageddon made the news, didnt it ?Each time a big scam made the news, did CCP condemn it? No, they said "we like being the game where this is possible".Now what ?Double language.

Who's the carebear whiner here? Is it HB or the staff who banned him ?Think about it.Karma (the simple working of the law of action and reaction) does work for everyone, HB got his share, CCP is getting its own as well.

I say good for everyone involved.

You people act as if CCP is some government. It's a private enterprise. They can do whatever they want within the terms of the contract you signed with them. There is no such thing as civil rights. If you don't like it, don't pay for it!

You're a ****** spouting **** hopping some GM or CCP dev likes what you're saying, I have news for you mate, they don't give a **** what you think so long as they are getting your money.

So what that said are you feeling a little stupid now? I'd hope that you're because you're paying them for a service not a game. There are laws you forget because you're cluelessly sucked into this game and therefore give up your RIGHTS because you feel you have no rights

Watch as CCP have there forums mods remove anything like this from the forum...

I'd like to remind people you're a human being and have rights and are never tied to some stupid ****ing contract that says you can not sell what YOU worked for in this game. Everything in this game you own is your property since you have worked for it, you did not code it into the game but you worked for those items and they do not belong to CCP since you paid them to use their servers and that means anything you created belongs to you not them.

You want to ****ing have a go at what I just said ccp then lets go then...

I'm a human being that is ****ed off of being ****ing over and stood on by company's who simple think they are above me, well you're not above me and you will never be above me. Everything in eve on my account belongs to ****ing me since I paid for that, I paid to access your servers and then create content for my self, you do not own that content I'm sorry but you don't, you did not sit there for hours at a time to earn it dumbasses...

Originally by:LittleTerrorI'd like to remind people you're a human being and have rights and are never tied to some stupid ****ing contract that says you can not sell what YOU worked for in this game. Everything in this game you own is your property since you have worked for it, you did not code it into the game but you worked for those items and they do not belong to CCP since you paid them to use their servers and that means anything you created belongs to you not them.

You want to ****ing have a go at what I just said ccp then lets go then...

I'm a human being that is ****ed off of being ****ing over and stood on by company's who simple think they are above me, well you're not above me and you will never be above me. Everything in eve on my account belongs to ****ing me since I paid for that, I paid to access your servers and then create content for my self, you do not own that content I'm sorry but you don't, you did not sit there for hours at a time to earn it dumbasses...

Wish I had your client without the "Accept these terms" button when you first installed EVE.

CCP You created the service which is no different than any other online service, terms and conditions mean nothing once common law comes into it. that little contract you get people to agree to is nothing more than a ****ing scam, it does not hold any authority, what are you going to do if people break it? Nothing because if people actually woke the **** up, you or anyone can do nothing at all to enforce it.