The most puzzling part of Plummer’s season, the part Mike Shanahan didn’t see coming, was how poorly he has played. He was coming off his best NFL season, one in which the Broncos advanced to the AFC championship game.
So what happens in ’06? The Broncos move up in the draft to select Jay Cutler, and Plummer plays like a quarterback looking over his shoulder. Fact is, there was no need for him to do it. Cutler wasn’t about to supplant Plummer in the first half of the season.

But now, after yet another disappointing performance, you have to wonder if Thursday night’s game at Kansas City will mark the end of Plummer’s days as the Broncos’ starting quarterback. Sure, Cutler is a rookie, but can he do any worse than Plummer has been doing?

Jake’s not bad. He’s 39-14 as a starter for the Broncos, which is actually pretty awesome. But I ask you: Can you remember a game where Plummer flat-out won it for us? Where his play was the obvious reason we won the game? Me neither. Conversely, he has had numerous games where his missed throws and turnovers were definitely part of the problem. His four turnovers in the AFC Championship game last year weren’t the only reason we lost to the Steelers (Shanahan’s play calling comes in to question again), but it sure didn’t help things.

When we drafted Jay Cutler, and all the local media started pontificating about when he should start for the Broncos, I thought it was ridiculous. The NFL is hard, you can’t just jump into it and hope to be successful. Rothleisberger was an anomaly, and most of his success was due to a great defense and conservative offensive play calling. But as the Broncos season wears on, it appears Shanahan has taken this same approach with Plummer. Look, out of our seven wins, we scored 17 points or less in six of them. It’s not like Plummer is killing it. When Plummer is reined in, we win. So, I’m starting to think, would things be that different with a reined in rookie at quarterback? Especially one who started in the SEC for four years on a bad team, facing all those ferocious defenses? Watching him in the preseason, Cutler was poised and accurate. I can’t see him royally screwing up.

Here’s what I like to ask every Bronco fan: “Do you trust Jake Plummer in a close game? Would you trust him in the playoffs?” The answer is usually “Hopefully, we won’t have to.” We know how good Plummer is going to be. We know his ceiling. Could we really be in a worse spot with a promising rookie at quarterback, whose ceiling has yet to be discovered? It’s not too late to do this. And it’s the only thing that will give me a glimmer of hope in this Broncos season. In our current state, we are going absolutely nowhere in the playoffs. But maybe if Cutler comes in, we’ll have a new angle. Heck, we might even run the ball more when we should. Jake’s not the only problem, as I’ve outlined in the above passages, but it’s the only thing we can try to fix right now. So, Jake, it’s been fun, I was all for you coming in here, and it’s not like you totally disappointed me, but SEE YA. As Mark Schlareth said on the radio yesterday morning, we have to “make this change TODAY.”

If I have to go through the rest of the season knowing Shanahan has the tendency to abandon the run at crucial times, and knowing our defense grossly overrated, I would at least like to watch our future unfold at quarterback. The second we drafted Cutler, Jake became part of our past. All of us, including Jake, know that. It is what it is. Let’s do this.

Chad

Jake’s not bad. He’s 39-14 as a starter for the Broncos, which is actually pretty awesome. But I ask you: Can you remember a game where Plummer flat-out won it for us? Where his play was the obvious reason we won the game? Me neither. Conversely, he has had numerous games where his missed throws and turnovers were definitely part of the problem. His four turnovers in the AFC Championship game last year weren’t the only reason we lost to the Steelers (Shanahan’s play calling comes in to question again), but it sure didn’t help things.

When we drafted Jay Cutler, and all the local media started pontificating about when he should start for the Broncos, I thought it was ridiculous. The NFL is hard, you can’t just jump into it and hope to be successful. Rothleisberger was an anomaly, and most of his success was due to a great defense and conservative offensive play calling. But as the Broncos season wears on, it appears Shanahan has taken this same approach with Plummer. Look, out of our seven wins, we scored 17 points or less in six of them. It’s not like Plummer is killing it. When Plummer is reined in, we win. So, I’m starting to think, would things be that different with a reined in rookie at quarterback? Especially one who started in the SEC for four years on a bad team, facing all those ferocious defenses? Watching him in the preseason, Cutler was poised and accurate. I can’t see him royally screwing up.

Here’s what I like to ask every Bronco fan: “Do you trust Jake Plummer in a close game? Would you trust him in the playoffs?” The answer is usually “Hopefully, we won’t have to.” We know how good Plummer is going to be. We know his ceiling. Could we really be in a worse spot with a promising rookie at quarterback, whose ceiling has yet to be discovered? It’s not too late to do this. And it’s the only thing that will give me a glimmer of hope in this Broncos season. In our current state, we are going absolutely nowhere in the playoffs. But maybe if Cutler comes in, we’ll have a new angle. Heck, we might even run the ball more when we should. Jake’s not the only problem, as I’ve outlined in the above passages, but it’s the only thing we can try to fix right now. So, Jake, it’s been fun, I was all for you coming in here, and it’s not like you totally disappointed me, but SEE YA. As Mark Schlareth said on the radio yesterday morning, we have to “make this change TODAY.”

If I have to go through the rest of the season knowing Shanahan has the tendency to abandon the run at crucial times, and knowing our defense grossly overrated, I would at least like to watch our future unfold at quarterback. The second we drafted Cutler, Jake became part of our past. All of us, including Jake, know that. It is what it is. Let’s do this.

Chad

Jake’s not bad. He’s 39-14 as a starter for the Broncos, which is actually pretty awesome. But I ask you: Can you remember a game where Plummer flat-out won it for us? Where his play was the obvious reason we won the game? Me neither. Conversely, he has had numerous games where his missed throws and turnovers were definitely part of the problem. His four turnovers in the AFC Championship game last year weren’t the only reason we lost to the Steelers (Shanahan’s play calling comes in to question again), but it sure didn’t help things.

When we drafted Jay Cutler, and all the local media started pontificating about when he should start for the Broncos, I thought it was ridiculous. The NFL is hard, you can’t just jump into it and hope to be successful. Rothleisberger was an anomaly, and most of his success was due to a great defense and conservative offensive play calling. But as the Broncos season wears on, it appears Shanahan has taken this same approach with Plummer. Look, out of our seven wins, we scored 17 points or less in six of them. It’s not like Plummer is killing it. When Plummer is reined in, we win. So, I’m starting to think, would things be that different with a reined in rookie at quarterback? Especially one who started in the SEC for four years on a bad team, facing all those ferocious defenses? Watching him in the preseason, Cutler was poised and accurate. I can’t see him royally screwing up.

Here’s what I like to ask every Bronco fan: “Do you trust Jake Plummer in a close game? Would you trust him in the playoffs?” The answer is usually “Hopefully, we won’t have to.” We know how good Plummer is going to be. We know his ceiling. Could we really be in a worse spot with a promising rookie at quarterback, whose ceiling has yet to be discovered? It’s not too late to do this. And it’s the only thing that will give me a glimmer of hope in this Broncos season. In our current state, we are going absolutely nowhere in the playoffs. But maybe if Cutler comes in, we’ll have a new angle. Heck, we might even run the ball more when we should. Jake’s not the only problem, as I’ve outlined in the above passages, but it’s the only thing we can try to fix right now. So, Jake, it’s been fun, I was all for you coming in here, and it’s not like you totally disappointed me, but SEE YA. As Mark Schlareth said on the radio yesterday morning, we have to “make this change TODAY.”

If I have to go through the rest of the season knowing Shanahan has the tendency to abandon the run at crucial times, and knowing our defense grossly overrated, I would at least like to watch our future unfold at quarterback. The second we drafted Cutler, Jake became part of our past. All of us, including Jake, know that. It is what it is. Let’s do this.

joe

I think that his time will come sooner then expected . tis is dew to jake unpredictablity ? Mike does not want to start jay but may have no chioce to do so . This is dew to jake , i waas i jake fan but it seem for not ! I like jay he had the best rookie rating in nfl history in the preseason over 100 . The time is now and if you make javon happy he will lead this team to playoffs and this will help the run game since we do not have any threat in these two areas . he just reminds me of john elway his arm and never say die attuide and this i like there is no sense of go getum !!!!!

joe

I think that his time will come sooner then expected . tis is dew to jake unpredictablity ? Mike does not want to start jay but may have no chioce to do so . This is dew to jake , i waas i jake fan but it seem for not ! I like jay he had the best rookie rating in nfl history in the preseason over 100 . The time is now and if you make javon happy he will lead this team to playoffs and this will help the run game since we do not have any threat in these two areas . he just reminds me of john elway his arm and never say die attuide and this i like there is no sense of go getum !!!!!

joe

I think that his time will come sooner then expected . tis is dew to jake unpredictablity ? Mike does not want to start jay but may have no chioce to do so . This is dew to jake , i waas i jake fan but it seem for not ! I like jay he had the best rookie rating in nfl history in the preseason over 100 . The time is now and if you make javon happy he will lead this team to playoffs and this will help the run game since we do not have any threat in these two areas . he just reminds me of john elway his arm and never say die attuide and this i like there is no sense of go getum !!!!!

Bronco Buddy

Cutler may not do any worse than Plummer, but he can’t do any better. He won’t be starting against Kansas City. It won’t be a confidence builder for Cutler or the Broncos if he plays against Seattle and San Diego.

He’s the quarterback of the future. My bet is the future starts with Arizona, Cincinnati and San Francisco.

Bronco Buddy

Cutler may not do any worse than Plummer, but he can’t do any better. He won’t be starting against Kansas City. It won’t be a confidence builder for Cutler or the Broncos if he plays against Seattle and San Diego.

He’s the quarterback of the future. My bet is the future starts with Arizona, Cincinnati and San Francisco.

Bronco Buddy

Cutler may not do any worse than Plummer, but he can’t do any better. He won’t be starting against Kansas City. It won’t be a confidence builder for Cutler or the Broncos if he plays against Seattle and San Diego.

He’s the quarterback of the future. My bet is the future starts with Arizona, Cincinnati and San Francisco.

BroncFreak

Letâ€™s hope and pray. Jake Plummer is an embarrassment to the state of Colorado, he makes our state look dumb and fond of losing. Does he even like playing in the NFL? He obviously doesnâ€™t care. Heâ€™s had very opportunity in the last four years to become an elite winning quarterback in the NFL. What kind of man admits to the national media that a 23-year-old rookie had his mental state akimbo? What kind of man actually lets that happen? As Maverick said to Iceman in the heat of a heavy dog fight: â€œIce, fire or clear.â€? Plummer needs to clear so we can get on with it.

BroncFreak

Letâ€™s hope and pray. Jake Plummer is an embarrassment to the state of Colorado, he makes our state look dumb and fond of losing. Does he even like playing in the NFL? He obviously doesnâ€™t care. Heâ€™s had very opportunity in the last four years to become an elite winning quarterback in the NFL. What kind of man admits to the national media that a 23-year-old rookie had his mental state akimbo? What kind of man actually lets that happen? As Maverick said to Iceman in the heat of a heavy dog fight: â€œIce, fire or clear.â€? Plummer needs to clear so we can get on with it.

BroncFreak

Letâ€™s hope and pray. Jake Plummer is an embarrassment to the state of Colorado, he makes our state look dumb and fond of losing. Does he even like playing in the NFL? He obviously doesnâ€™t care. Heâ€™s had very opportunity in the last four years to become an elite winning quarterback in the NFL. What kind of man admits to the national media that a 23-year-old rookie had his mental state akimbo? What kind of man actually lets that happen? As Maverick said to Iceman in the heat of a heavy dog fight: â€œIce, fire or clear.â€? Plummer needs to clear so we can get on with it.

Daniel Hays

Ive been getting real sick about this Cutler talk!! I understand Plummer is struggling and “this and that” but I believe Cutler will not be the guy! I have 2 reasons why…

1. He played for a horrible college that no one had ever heard of!

2. His record in college was horrible!! His best game was when he put up an unlikely 42 points on the Florida Gators–in a LOSS.

So maybe you Jake haters ought to start rooting for any other team and when Jake gets sick of all you FAIR WEATHER FANS he can leave! For now, the Broncos can be OUR BRONCOS, you know, the ones who SUPPORT their STARTING quarterback who has gotten them to the playoffs three successive years and was only one game away from the big game last year.

You Broncos fans are all the same. You “broncos fans” are the same people who started to boo John Elway and you were wanting someone else. But you dealt with it and he won the super bowl. Greise comes in, you guys expect him to be Elway and you end up booing him. So Jake comes in. He is better than Griese and is winning more games than him and guess what. YOU BOO HIM!!! So you want a losing QB as your starter so a couple years from now you boo him!?!? Go Ahead!!!

SUPPORT Jake Plummer!!!(ITS A GOOD IDEA!!!)

Daniel Hays

Ive been getting real sick about this Cutler talk!! I understand Plummer is struggling and “this and that” but I believe Cutler will not be the guy! I have 2 reasons why…

1. He played for a horrible college that no one had ever heard of!

2. His record in college was horrible!! His best game was when he put up an unlikely 42 points on the Florida Gators–in a LOSS.

So maybe you Jake haters ought to start rooting for any other team and when Jake gets sick of all you FAIR WEATHER FANS he can leave! For now, the Broncos can be OUR BRONCOS, you know, the ones who SUPPORT their STARTING quarterback who has gotten them to the playoffs three successive years and was only one game away from the big game last year.

You Broncos fans are all the same. You “broncos fans” are the same people who started to boo John Elway and you were wanting someone else. But you dealt with it and he won the super bowl. Greise comes in, you guys expect him to be Elway and you end up booing him. So Jake comes in. He is better than Griese and is winning more games than him and guess what. YOU BOO HIM!!! So you want a losing QB as your starter so a couple years from now you boo him!?!? Go Ahead!!!

cutler played in the best div.in the bcs!The last game plummer vs Oakland his pass was an INT.I want Jay he was HOTTTT in the preseason.

Greg

Hey Daniel,

Chill out. Fans are just fans. You have to earn their support and then you have to keep it by proving it with your performance on the field.

Jake was a very good QB last year but this year he has been all over the map. My god man, open your eyes. He over throws, he under throws, he throws into coverage. He fumbles, stumbles, and looks like a deer caught in headlights.

Cutler initially looked poised, accurate, and moved the chains consistently. Of course he will make mistakes but he needs to learn sometime. Why not now after the KC game. I think asking the rookie to fill in for Jake at KC in front of a national audience, at night, after a short week, with that crowd noise is asking a bit much.

But at home, against Seattle. Sit jake down, Try Cutler. Let’s see how it plays out.

Greg

Hey Daniel,

Chill out. Fans are just fans. You have to earn their support and then you have to keep it by proving it with your performance on the field.

Jake was a very good QB last year but this year he has been all over the map. My god man, open your eyes. He over throws, he under throws, he throws into coverage. He fumbles, stumbles, and looks like a deer caught in headlights.

Cutler initially looked poised, accurate, and moved the chains consistently. Of course he will make mistakes but he needs to learn sometime. Why not now after the KC game. I think asking the rookie to fill in for Jake at KC in front of a national audience, at night, after a short week, with that crowd noise is asking a bit much.

But at home, against Seattle. Sit jake down, Try Cutler. Let’s see how it plays out.

Greg

Hey Daniel,

Chill out. Fans are just fans. You have to earn their support and then you have to keep it by proving it with your performance on the field.

Jake was a very good QB last year but this year he has been all over the map. My god man, open your eyes. He over throws, he under throws, he throws into coverage. He fumbles, stumbles, and looks like a deer caught in headlights.

Cutler initially looked poised, accurate, and moved the chains consistently. Of course he will make mistakes but he needs to learn sometime. Why not now after the KC game. I think asking the rookie to fill in for Jake at KC in front of a national audience, at night, after a short week, with that crowd noise is asking a bit much.

But at home, against Seattle. Sit jake down, Try Cutler. Let’s see how it plays out.

Wes Smith

1. No one ever heard of Vandy? Really!
2. You are wrong if you think that Cutler will not become a better quarterback that Plummer

Wes Smith

1. No one ever heard of Vandy? Really!
2. You are wrong if you think that Cutler will not become a better quarterback that Plummer

Wes Smith

1. No one ever heard of Vandy? Really!
2. You are wrong if you think that Cutler will not become a better quarterback that Plummer

Roger

Daniel,

That a) you think no one ever heard of Vanderbilt, b)it clearly hasn’t occurred to you that Cutler’s team would have been truly horrible if not for him, and c)most of us DIDN’T boo Elway early on — ever — yet can see that Jake isn’t the guy, says far more about your ignorance than anything else. Since when does wanting an improvement at QB make one a bad Broncos fan? I guess shelling out all that money on season tickets for 30 years doesn’t count in your book if I don’t worship at the Plummer altar.

Roger

Daniel,

That a) you think no one ever heard of Vanderbilt, b)it clearly hasn’t occurred to you that Cutler’s team would have been truly horrible if not for him, and c)most of us DIDN’T boo Elway early on — ever — yet can see that Jake isn’t the guy, says far more about your ignorance than anything else. Since when does wanting an improvement at QB make one a bad Broncos fan? I guess shelling out all that money on season tickets for 30 years doesn’t count in your book if I don’t worship at the Plummer altar.

Brian

I’m with Daniel. The entire team looks like crap and all anyone can talk about is the QB. An embarassment to Colorado? Get real. Plummer’s got a better winning percentage and QB rating than Elway.

Do we need a change? Probably. Plummer’s confidence is shot, thanks mainly to drafting a QB when there are many other holes to fill. But don’t count on Cutler saving the day. If he is already among the elite QB’s in the game (as everyone seems to think even though he’s yet to play a down), don’t baby him and wait to play a weak opponent at home. Let’s see what he can do in KC.

Brian

I’m with Daniel. The entire team looks like crap and all anyone can talk about is the QB. An embarassment to Colorado? Get real. Plummer’s got a better winning percentage and QB rating than Elway.

Do we need a change? Probably. Plummer’s confidence is shot, thanks mainly to drafting a QB when there are many other holes to fill. But don’t count on Cutler saving the day. If he is already among the elite QB’s in the game (as everyone seems to think even though he’s yet to play a down), don’t baby him and wait to play a weak opponent at home. Let’s see what he can do in KC.

Brian

I’m with Daniel. The entire team looks like crap and all anyone can talk about is the QB. An embarassment to Colorado? Get real. Plummer’s got a better winning percentage and QB rating than Elway.

Do we need a change? Probably. Plummer’s confidence is shot, thanks mainly to drafting a QB when there are many other holes to fill. But don’t count on Cutler saving the day. If he is already among the elite QB’s in the game (as everyone seems to think even though he’s yet to play a down), don’t baby him and wait to play a weak opponent at home. Let’s see what he can do in KC.

are you kidding me? denver fans are football fans, flat out. we expect excellence. and why shouldnt we? isnt that the point of this game we call football? to win? plummer had the best season of his career last year because he was in the system and ran the plays that were drawn up to maximize his talent without giving him any room for improvisation because his coach knew improvisation meant turnovers for plummer. people gave plummer props for taking a terrible arizona team to the playoffs but woopty doo! he has ten times the talent on this team as he ever had on the cards’. champ bailey took us to the afc championship last year, not plummer. and to the guy who hasnt ever heard of vanderbilt. you probably have never heard of academics either. cutler went to vandy because he was given a starting job coming in. it was in a major conference. and wanted to get a rock solid education. oh yeah, and he was sec player of the month multiple times. broke every record the school had by the time he was a junior. and still no one knew his name until the week before the draft. and name another player who has come out of vanderbilt in the past ten years? just one…..exactly. plummer gave it a good run. but come on, hes not losing every game for the broncos but hes definatly not winning any for them either. yeah cutler looked good against second teamers early on. but has jake plummer ever made any passes like some of the bullets 6 threw in the pre season. if plummer slips up again in arrowhead this week, he’s done. has to be. at least until 6 proves hes not ready to be better than our mediocre at best guy in there now. fresh nuts out!

are you kidding me? denver fans are football fans, flat out. we expect excellence. and why shouldnt we? isnt that the point of this game we call football? to win? plummer had the best season of his career last year because he was in the system and ran the plays that were drawn up to maximize his talent without giving him any room for improvisation because his coach knew improvisation meant turnovers for plummer. people gave plummer props for taking a terrible arizona team to the playoffs but woopty doo! he has ten times the talent on this team as he ever had on the cards’. champ bailey took us to the afc championship last year, not plummer. and to the guy who hasnt ever heard of vanderbilt. you probably have never heard of academics either. cutler went to vandy because he was given a starting job coming in. it was in a major conference. and wanted to get a rock solid education. oh yeah, and he was sec player of the month multiple times. broke every record the school had by the time he was a junior. and still no one knew his name until the week before the draft. and name another player who has come out of vanderbilt in the past ten years? just one…..exactly. plummer gave it a good run. but come on, hes not losing every game for the broncos but hes definatly not winning any for them either. yeah cutler looked good against second teamers early on. but has jake plummer ever made any passes like some of the bullets 6 threw in the pre season. if plummer slips up again in arrowhead this week, he’s done. has to be. at least until 6 proves hes not ready to be better than our mediocre at best guy in there now. fresh nuts out!

Fred

I think we are 7-3. Not in first place (for now), but not in last place. Jake Plummer has beat New England (twice) and Baltimore (this season) and stumbled a bit against Diego, but the whole team let us down, especially the D. Jake today, Jay tomorrow, maybe 2008. Let’s not be in a hurry to waste our number 1 pick. Peace, and remember we won it all two years in a row after a long damn wait…. Be patient…..

Fred

I think we are 7-3. Not in first place (for now), but not in last place. Jake Plummer has beat New England (twice) and Baltimore (this season) and stumbled a bit against Diego, but the whole team let us down, especially the D. Jake today, Jay tomorrow, maybe 2008. Let’s not be in a hurry to waste our number 1 pick. Peace, and remember we won it all two years in a row after a long damn wait…. Be patient…..

Dennis

Jake Plummer had a very good year last year. This year he is the Jake Plummer he has been his whole career. But even last year, when we needed him most (AFC Championship game) he fell apart. If I remember correctly Brian Griese had a tremendous year once andfell completely apart the next season and every season after.
Here is a simple fact: We have a great coaching staff, an offensive minded head coach and all season long we stumbled offensively. Our running statistics are not horrible but our passing statistics are.
You tell me who passes the ball?
Cutler now with reduced games plans, Plummer as the back up unless he drops the clipboard like he did the 3rd down snap vs SD.

Dennis

Jake Plummer had a very good year last year. This year he is the Jake Plummer he has been his whole career. But even last year, when we needed him most (AFC Championship game) he fell apart. If I remember correctly Brian Griese had a tremendous year once andfell completely apart the next season and every season after.
Here is a simple fact: We have a great coaching staff, an offensive minded head coach and all season long we stumbled offensively. Our running statistics are not horrible but our passing statistics are.
You tell me who passes the ball?
Cutler now with reduced games plans, Plummer as the back up unless he drops the clipboard like he did the 3rd down snap vs SD.

Dennis

Jake Plummer had a very good year last year. This year he is the Jake Plummer he has been his whole career. But even last year, when we needed him most (AFC Championship game) he fell apart. If I remember correctly Brian Griese had a tremendous year once andfell completely apart the next season and every season after.
Here is a simple fact: We have a great coaching staff, an offensive minded head coach and all season long we stumbled offensively. Our running statistics are not horrible but our passing statistics are.
You tell me who passes the ball?
Cutler now with reduced games plans, Plummer as the back up unless he drops the clipboard like he did the 3rd down snap vs SD.

Scott

Did not read all of the posts, but the bottom line this week was as many of you said, the abndonement of the run. Why are they throwing downfield so much when they clearly needed to control the clock? 3x they ran for a first down and the next 2 plays were passes. I just don’t get it. Keeping a defense on their toes is one thing, but when you are dominating them on the line stick with it

Scott

Did not read all of the posts, but the bottom line this week was as many of you said, the abndonement of the run. Why are they throwing downfield so much when they clearly needed to control the clock? 3x they ran for a first down and the next 2 plays were passes. I just don’t get it. Keeping a defense on their toes is one thing, but when you are dominating them on the line stick with it

Scott

Did not read all of the posts, but the bottom line this week was as many of you said, the abndonement of the run. Why are they throwing downfield so much when they clearly needed to control the clock? 3x they ran for a first down and the next 2 plays were passes. I just don’t get it. Keeping a defense on their toes is one thing, but when you are dominating them on the line stick with it

I have thought all year that the best option is to play Plummer. Their is no way playing Cutler is the right thing to do. My opinion has changed. It is now clear that this team is not Superbowl caliber. The San Diego game proved that. San Diego is arguably the best team in the NFL right now, but a Superbowl caliber team does not lose at home to them. Yes we will probably go to the playoffs, but will be bounced early. The future is now for our beloved Broncos. I love Snake, but it is clear just from the little bit we have seen that Cutler has loads and loads of talent. The kid is a potential star. I can’t see him being just another quarterback. The kid won games at Vandy!!! Teams like Arkansas and Tennessee. Vandy winning football games is like Duke winning football games. It does not happen. The future is now. The kid must play. Sorry Snake. I will pull for you wherever you go. As long as it is not the Raiders.

I have thought all year that the best option is to play Plummer. Their is no way playing Cutler is the right thing to do. My opinion has changed. It is now clear that this team is not Superbowl caliber. The San Diego game proved that. San Diego is arguably the best team in the NFL right now, but a Superbowl caliber team does not lose at home to them. Yes we will probably go to the playoffs, but will be bounced early. The future is now for our beloved Broncos. I love Snake, but it is clear just from the little bit we have seen that Cutler has loads and loads of talent. The kid is a potential star. I can’t see him being just another quarterback. The kid won games at Vandy!!! Teams like Arkansas and Tennessee. Vandy winning football games is like Duke winning football games. It does not happen. The future is now. The kid must play. Sorry Snake. I will pull for you wherever you go. As long as it is not the Raiders.

I have thought all year that the best option is to play Plummer. Their is no way playing Cutler is the right thing to do. My opinion has changed. It is now clear that this team is not Superbowl caliber. The San Diego game proved that. San Diego is arguably the best team in the NFL right now, but a Superbowl caliber team does not lose at home to them. Yes we will probably go to the playoffs, but will be bounced early. The future is now for our beloved Broncos. I love Snake, but it is clear just from the little bit we have seen that Cutler has loads and loads of talent. The kid is a potential star. I can’t see him being just another quarterback. The kid won games at Vandy!!! Teams like Arkansas and Tennessee. Vandy winning football games is like Duke winning football games. It does not happen. The future is now. The kid must play. Sorry Snake. I will pull for you wherever you go. As long as it is not the Raiders.

I have thought all year that the best option is to play Plummer. Their is no way playing Cutler is the right thing to do. My opinion has changed. It is now clear that this team is not Superbowl caliber. The San Diego game proved that. San Diego is arguably the best team in the NFL right now, but a Superbowl caliber team does not lose at home to them. Yes we will probably go to the playoffs, but will be bounced early. The future is now for our beloved Broncos. I love Snake, but it is clear just from the little bit we have seen that Cutler has loads and loads of talent. The kid is a potential star. I can’t see him being just another quarterback. The kid won games at Vandy!!! Teams like Arkansas and Tennessee. Vandy winning football games is like Duke winning football games. It does not happen. The future is now. The kid must play. Sorry Snake. I will pull for you wherever you go. As long as it is not the Raiders.

WhinySDFAN

I just hope its a clean game without any cut blocking from Nalen.

peace out

WhinySDFAN

I just hope its a clean game without any cut blocking from Nalen.

peace out

Chuck Farley

Are you Denver fans really stupid, or do you just fake it really well? Will Cutler protect a 17 point lead? If an NFL team scores 27 points and loses, it’s not the QB’s fault. Repeat that to yourselves and click your ruby slippers. I almost hope that Cutler plays so that when he falls on his face, you guys are exposed as the morons you are.

Chuck Farley

Are you Denver fans really stupid, or do you just fake it really well? Will Cutler protect a 17 point lead? If an NFL team scores 27 points and loses, it’s not the QB’s fault. Repeat that to yourselves and click your ruby slippers. I almost hope that Cutler plays so that when he falls on his face, you guys are exposed as the morons you are.

The Big-H

We cna’t put the full blame on Jake although his play has been ugly this year, but without a dangerious runnng game. I don’t care who you are as quaterback. You won’t be an effective quaterback in the NFL. Not even the Great John Elway be able to as effective with the current running game we have now. I do agree with everyone elese that we wont make it to the supperbowl with Jake as our quaterback. I am looking forward to next year and hope that Shannahan drafts an elite running back. If that happens we will be the supperbowl for years to come.

The Big-H

We cna’t put the full blame on Jake although his play has been ugly this year, but without a dangerious runnng game. I don’t care who you are as quaterback. You won’t be an effective quaterback in the NFL. Not even the Great John Elway be able to as effective with the current running game we have now. I do agree with everyone elese that we wont make it to the supperbowl with Jake as our quaterback. I am looking forward to next year and hope that Shannahan drafts an elite running back. If that happens we will be the supperbowl for years to come.

Dr. Other Rooting Interest

As a Steelers fan, I am rooting for the Broncos to put in Jay Cutler as soon as possible, so that they finish 9-7 or worse and give the Steelers a chance to sneak into the playoffs if they win out.

Dr. Other Rooting Interest

As a Steelers fan, I am rooting for the Broncos to put in Jay Cutler as soon as possible, so that they finish 9-7 or worse and give the Steelers a chance to sneak into the playoffs if they win out.

Dr. Other Rooting Interest

As a Steelers fan, I am rooting for the Broncos to put in Jay Cutler as soon as possible, so that they finish 9-7 or worse and give the Steelers a chance to sneak into the playoffs if they win out.

Dr. Other Rooting Interest

As a Steelers fan, I am rooting for the Broncos to put in Jay Cutler as soon as possible, so that they finish 9-7 or worse and give the Steelers a chance to sneak into the playoffs if they win out.

Some of you people are drinking way too much Colordao Kool-Aid. Some people believe Denver will make the playoffs. Denver WILL NOT make the playoffs with Jake Plummer at QB. The Broncos have games against K.C., Seattle, San Diego and Cincinnati coming up. They won’t win any of them if Plummer remains the QB. At best Denver will be 10-6. I agree it’s hard to argue with Jake’s winning percentage, but it’s a “what have you done for me lately” league. Jake is playing like a rookie. It’s not just what he is doing (throwing interceptions,etc.), but what he “ISN’T” doing, like hitting receivers is stride, spreading the ball around, hitting “open” receivers. How about a pass to a tight end? How about throwing a ball once in awhile to a receiver “before” he makes his break instead of always being late. How about throwing a pass down the seam. The offense looks so terrible because Jake can’t do the things that makes defenses vulnerable (exploit their weaknesses). It’s time to move on. Cutler would not do any worse. In fact, I’m quite confident he would do better.

Some of you people are drinking way too much Colordao Kool-Aid. Some people believe Denver will make the playoffs. Denver WILL NOT make the playoffs with Jake Plummer at QB. The Broncos have games against K.C., Seattle, San Diego and Cincinnati coming up. They won’t win any of them if Plummer remains the QB. At best Denver will be 10-6. I agree it’s hard to argue with Jake’s winning percentage, but it’s a “what have you done for me lately” league. Jake is playing like a rookie. It’s not just what he is doing (throwing interceptions,etc.), but what he “ISN’T” doing, like hitting receivers is stride, spreading the ball around, hitting “open” receivers. How about a pass to a tight end? How about throwing a ball once in awhile to a receiver “before” he makes his break instead of always being late. How about throwing a pass down the seam. The offense looks so terrible because Jake can’t do the things that makes defenses vulnerable (exploit their weaknesses). It’s time to move on. Cutler would not do any worse. In fact, I’m quite confident he would do better.

Some of you people are drinking way too much Colordao Kool-Aid. Some people believe Denver will make the playoffs. Denver WILL NOT make the playoffs with Jake Plummer at QB. The Broncos have games against K.C., Seattle, San Diego and Cincinnati coming up. They won’t win any of them if Plummer remains the QB. At best Denver will be 10-6. I agree it’s hard to argue with Jake’s winning percentage, but it’s a “what have you done for me lately” league. Jake is playing like a rookie. It’s not just what he is doing (throwing interceptions,etc.), but what he “ISN’T” doing, like hitting receivers is stride, spreading the ball around, hitting “open” receivers. How about a pass to a tight end? How about throwing a ball once in awhile to a receiver “before” he makes his break instead of always being late. How about throwing a pass down the seam. The offense looks so terrible because Jake can’t do the things that makes defenses vulnerable (exploit their weaknesses). It’s time to move on. Cutler would not do any worse. In fact, I’m quite confident he would do better.

Some of you people are drinking way too much Colordao Kool-Aid. Some people believe Denver will make the playoffs. Denver WILL NOT make the playoffs with Jake Plummer at QB. The Broncos have games against K.C., Seattle, San Diego and Cincinnati coming up. They won’t win any of them if Plummer remains the QB. At best Denver will be 10-6. I agree it’s hard to argue with Jake’s winning percentage, but it’s a “what have you done for me lately” league. Jake is playing like a rookie. It’s not just what he is doing (throwing interceptions,etc.), but what he “ISN’T” doing, like hitting receivers is stride, spreading the ball around, hitting “open” receivers. How about a pass to a tight end? How about throwing a ball once in awhile to a receiver “before” he makes his break instead of always being late. How about throwing a pass down the seam. The offense looks so terrible because Jake can’t do the things that makes defenses vulnerable (exploit their weaknesses). It’s time to move on. Cutler would not do any worse. In fact, I’m quite confident he would do better.

Elway came from a losing college and was the number 1 draft pick because of his abilities. Ergo, Culter is a first rounder because of his talents. Elway had a few rough years starting out in the NFL but the one thing everyone could see (besides his talent and arm strength) was his desire to win and get it done. We won’t know that about Culter until we see him play. We do know that Plummer doesn’t have it. Plummer acts like it’s just a 9 to 5 job and seems to care less whether he wins or loses. I have yet to hear him in a post game interview say, you know I had a bad game but I gave everything I could and left it on the field. If Plummer really played like that, most of us could accept a tough loss when you know your QB left it on the field.

On a positive note – two of our three losses have come from arguebly the top two teams in the NFL and we were still competetive in those games. They didn’t blow us out. So let’s give our team some credit and hope they get through their rough spots now before the playoffs. I would rather they get their sloppy play and mistakes out of the way before the playoffs. The Broncos need to realize that if they drop this game to KC they will have a very steep mountain to climb to make the playoffs. I hope they can regroup and play like Champions. It’s a mindset and I think that’s what Rivers gives to San Diego. They looked good, give credit where it’s due.

Elway came from a losing college and was the number 1 draft pick because of his abilities. Ergo, Culter is a first rounder because of his talents. Elway had a few rough years starting out in the NFL but the one thing everyone could see (besides his talent and arm strength) was his desire to win and get it done. We won’t know that about Culter until we see him play. We do know that Plummer doesn’t have it. Plummer acts like it’s just a 9 to 5 job and seems to care less whether he wins or loses. I have yet to hear him in a post game interview say, you know I had a bad game but I gave everything I could and left it on the field. If Plummer really played like that, most of us could accept a tough loss when you know your QB left it on the field.

On a positive note – two of our three losses have come from arguebly the top two teams in the NFL and we were still competetive in those games. They didn’t blow us out. So let’s give our team some credit and hope they get through their rough spots now before the playoffs. I would rather they get their sloppy play and mistakes out of the way before the playoffs. The Broncos need to realize that if they drop this game to KC they will have a very steep mountain to climb to make the playoffs. I hope they can regroup and play like Champions. It’s a mindset and I think that’s what Rivers gives to San Diego. They looked good, give credit where it’s due.

Boston Eric

If Denver is going to go anywhere this season it is with Jake Plummer behind center. You cannot expect a rookie QB to come into the NFL during a playoff run and perform. Remember Cutler did his amazing work in the preseason against defenses comprised of bench players and people who are now working construction jobs. Inserting Cutler in now would be conceding the 2006 season. The Broncos are a 7-3 team and have been in every game. Make no mistake about it the defense (aside from the Williams INT) was terrible in the second half against SD. Once Denver gained a 17 point lead they only needed 2 (maybe 3) stops to secure a win. Shanahan knew his defense was in trouble when he went for it on 4th and 4, unfortunately Plummer could not pay the D back for what they have done for him this season. If Denver was able to sneak by and say won 30-28 then this discussion would have never been started. Lets keep in mind that Denver lost the last two games againt the best teams in the NFL. This was a terrible game by all areas with the only exception being the running game. When you give a potent offense like SD a short field it makes it very tough on the defense to make a mistake on one play and not give up points.

For Denvers offense to be sucessful the need the following to happen:
1. Keep Jake on the move. He is a terrible pocket passer and you can tell he does not feel comfortable. Mix in a few screens to keep opposing D’s from blitzing from the outside (to prevent Plummer from rolling out).
2. Run the football as long as they can. They have a great offensive line and several people who can play at running back. This also limits the responsibility of Plummer.
3. Get Plummer in a rhythm early with passes to TEs and RBs. New England is amazing at this. They spread the ball out short and next thing you know they are beating you deep.

I think this team is far from perfect, but if they have the talent to go a long way.

Boston Eric

If Denver is going to go anywhere this season it is with Jake Plummer behind center. You cannot expect a rookie QB to come into the NFL during a playoff run and perform. Remember Cutler did his amazing work in the preseason against defenses comprised of bench players and people who are now working construction jobs. Inserting Cutler in now would be conceding the 2006 season. The Broncos are a 7-3 team and have been in every game. Make no mistake about it the defense (aside from the Williams INT) was terrible in the second half against SD. Once Denver gained a 17 point lead they only needed 2 (maybe 3) stops to secure a win. Shanahan knew his defense was in trouble when he went for it on 4th and 4, unfortunately Plummer could not pay the D back for what they have done for him this season. If Denver was able to sneak by and say won 30-28 then this discussion would have never been started. Lets keep in mind that Denver lost the last two games againt the best teams in the NFL. This was a terrible game by all areas with the only exception being the running game. When you give a potent offense like SD a short field it makes it very tough on the defense to make a mistake on one play and not give up points.

For Denvers offense to be sucessful the need the following to happen:
1. Keep Jake on the move. He is a terrible pocket passer and you can tell he does not feel comfortable. Mix in a few screens to keep opposing D’s from blitzing from the outside (to prevent Plummer from rolling out).
2. Run the football as long as they can. They have a great offensive line and several people who can play at running back. This also limits the responsibility of Plummer.
3. Get Plummer in a rhythm early with passes to TEs and RBs. New England is amazing at this. They spread the ball out short and next thing you know they are beating you deep.

I think this team is far from perfect, but if they have the talent to go a long way.

Jarret

I agree with Daniel, you guys dont know how good we got it. Imgagine being a Detriot or Arizona fan. I dont care how good you think Jay Cutler was againsted second string defenses in the preseason, he isnt ready now and he wasnt ready in college either when his best season was 5-6.
The problem is the coach needs to go. The reason they cant do anything on offense is because everyone has figured out our very predictable Mike. The
ten year rule may have not applied to Cowher but it does here, too bad you cant bring back Kubiak. Shanahan looks clueless on the sidelines sometimes I have noticed this year.
If our overrated coach benches Plummer this week, I hope Cutler throws another 10 picks in the second half of the year, then maybe the blame will start to fall where it should.

Jarret

I agree with Daniel, you guys dont know how good we got it. Imgagine being a Detriot or Arizona fan. I dont care how good you think Jay Cutler was againsted second string defenses in the preseason, he isnt ready now and he wasnt ready in college either when his best season was 5-6.
The problem is the coach needs to go. The reason they cant do anything on offense is because everyone has figured out our very predictable Mike. The
ten year rule may have not applied to Cowher but it does here, too bad you cant bring back Kubiak. Shanahan looks clueless on the sidelines sometimes I have noticed this year.
If our overrated coach benches Plummer this week, I hope Cutler throws another 10 picks in the second half of the year, then maybe the blame will start to fall where it should.

Jarret

I agree with Daniel, you guys dont know how good we got it. Imgagine being a Detriot or Arizona fan. I dont care how good you think Jay Cutler was againsted second string defenses in the preseason, he isnt ready now and he wasnt ready in college either when his best season was 5-6.
The problem is the coach needs to go. The reason they cant do anything on offense is because everyone has figured out our very predictable Mike. The
ten year rule may have not applied to Cowher but it does here, too bad you cant bring back Kubiak. Shanahan looks clueless on the sidelines sometimes I have noticed this year.
If our overrated coach benches Plummer this week, I hope Cutler throws another 10 picks in the second half of the year, then maybe the blame will start to fall where it should.

Denis G

With all the Plummer talk, I just have one question: where the heck was that defense during the 2nd half of the San-Diego game?

Plummer may have lost Denver a few games, but Indy and S-D are not on that list. you can’t blame blowing a 2+ TD lead on the QB.

Denis G

With all the Plummer talk, I just have one question: where the heck was that defense during the 2nd half of the San-Diego game?

Plummer may have lost Denver a few games, but Indy and S-D are not on that list. you can’t blame blowing a 2+ TD lead on the QB.

Richard

I keep on hearing of how Jay Cutler played great in Pre-Season…. That is just it… PRE-SEASON! Jake Plummer played great in Pre-Season also. Everyone has to remember all the plays in pre-season are vanilla and Jay ran them well. You can’t bet your the rest of a playoff run to someone who only ran vanilla plays and only saw in person the limited defensive plays they ran in pre-season. Jakes got a raw deal. People keep beating him down. Anybody… and I MEAN anybody would crack under that public pressure. We should support him now.. TODAY! Then for next year pre-season we can debate the Cutler VS Plummer issue in which Jay has a good chance to start!

Richard

I keep on hearing of how Jay Cutler played great in Pre-Season…. That is just it… PRE-SEASON! Jake Plummer played great in Pre-Season also. Everyone has to remember all the plays in pre-season are vanilla and Jay ran them well. You can’t bet your the rest of a playoff run to someone who only ran vanilla plays and only saw in person the limited defensive plays they ran in pre-season. Jakes got a raw deal. People keep beating him down. Anybody… and I MEAN anybody would crack under that public pressure. We should support him now.. TODAY! Then for next year pre-season we can debate the Cutler VS Plummer issue in which Jay has a good chance to start!

Zo

I’ve been on Jake’s side since he arrived to Denver, and he has had some great years with the team. This year he has had some struggles, and I’m sorry to say, but his time is up. Half a decade in, and this has to be the worst I’ve seen him play. I agree with alot of fans here…If you are going to play like a rookie, than let the rookie play. Can it be much worse? Put Cut in at KC, and let the future begin. I promise you this; Cut won’t throw passes that the WR’s need to make spectacular catches just to complete them. And how about J. Walker? What a great addition! Takes me back to the days of the Three Amigos! Take care Denver Fans. We are going to need a miracle in the form of No. 6 to make any noise in the AFC.

Zo

I’ve been on Jake’s side since he arrived to Denver, and he has had some great years with the team. This year he has had some struggles, and I’m sorry to say, but his time is up. Half a decade in, and this has to be the worst I’ve seen him play. I agree with alot of fans here…If you are going to play like a rookie, than let the rookie play. Can it be much worse? Put Cut in at KC, and let the future begin. I promise you this; Cut won’t throw passes that the WR’s need to make spectacular catches just to complete them. And how about J. Walker? What a great addition! Takes me back to the days of the Three Amigos! Take care Denver Fans. We are going to need a miracle in the form of No. 6 to make any noise in the AFC.

Richard

I keep on hearing of how Jay Cutler played great in Pre-Season…. That is just it… PRE-SEASON! Jake Plummer played great in Pre-Season also. Everyone has to remember all the plays in pre-season are vanilla and Jay ran them well. You can’t bet your the rest of a playoff run to someone who only ran vanilla plays and only saw in person the limited defensive plays they ran in pre-season. Jakes got a raw deal. People keep beating him down. Anybody… and I MEAN anybody would crack under that public pressure. We should support him now.. TODAY! Then for next year pre-season we can debate the Cutler VS Plummer issue in which Jay has a good chance to start!

Zo

I’ve been on Jake’s side since he arrived to Denver, and he has had some great years with the team. This year he has had some struggles, and I’m sorry to say, but his time is up. Half a decade in, and this has to be the worst I’ve seen him play. I agree with alot of fans here…If you are going to play like a rookie, than let the rookie play. Can it be much worse? Put Cut in at KC, and let the future begin. I promise you this; Cut won’t throw passes that the WR’s need to make spectacular catches just to complete them. And how about J. Walker? What a great addition! Takes me back to the days of the Three Amigos! Take care Denver Fans. We are going to need a miracle in the form of No. 6 to make any noise in the AFC.

Justin in Phoenix

Here in Arizona I have been watching Jake play since he started at Arizona State through his time as a Cardinal and now as a Bronco. With few exceptions (Rose bowl) Jake is just not clutch. He can put up good to great numbers, but when it comes down to it, he isnt your guy. The San Diego game is a good example. He didnt play terrible, but when it came to 3rd down with a chance to go up by 10pts, he drops the snap, they settle for 3 and lose the game. Did anybody think with a minute left there was a chance they would march down the field, score a TD and win with Jake? At best the Broncos could hope for a situation like the 2000 Ravens, but as of now, the Bronocs need thier QB to be clutch. Jake just isnt clutch and I dont see that changing. That being said he is our best bet this late in the season. Can anybody recall a rookie taking the helm late in the season and leading a team to a Superbowl? Isnt that the goal? We are stuck with Jake until the season is over.

Justin in Phoenix

Here in Arizona I have been watching Jake play since he started at Arizona State through his time as a Cardinal and now as a Bronco. With few exceptions (Rose bowl) Jake is just not clutch. He can put up good to great numbers, but when it comes down to it, he isnt your guy. The San Diego game is a good example. He didnt play terrible, but when it came to 3rd down with a chance to go up by 10pts, he drops the snap, they settle for 3 and lose the game. Did anybody think with a minute left there was a chance they would march down the field, score a TD and win with Jake? At best the Broncos could hope for a situation like the 2000 Ravens, but as of now, the Bronocs need thier QB to be clutch. Jake just isnt clutch and I dont see that changing. That being said he is our best bet this late in the season. Can anybody recall a rookie taking the helm late in the season and leading a team to a Superbowl? Isnt that the goal? We are stuck with Jake until the season is over.

Justin in Phoenix

Here in Arizona I have been watching Jake play since he started at Arizona State through his time as a Cardinal and now as a Bronco. With few exceptions (Rose bowl) Jake is just not clutch. He can put up good to great numbers, but when it comes down to it, he isnt your guy. The San Diego game is a good example. He didnt play terrible, but when it came to 3rd down with a chance to go up by 10pts, he drops the snap, they settle for 3 and lose the game. Did anybody think with a minute left there was a chance they would march down the field, score a TD and win with Jake? At best the Broncos could hope for a situation like the 2000 Ravens, but as of now, the Bronocs need thier QB to be clutch. Jake just isnt clutch and I dont see that changing. That being said he is our best bet this late in the season. Can anybody recall a rookie taking the helm late in the season and leading a team to a Superbowl? Isnt that the goal? We are stuck with Jake until the season is over.

Justin in Phoenix

Here in Arizona I have been watching Jake play since he started at Arizona State through his time as a Cardinal and now as a Bronco. With few exceptions (Rose bowl) Jake is just not clutch. He can put up good to great numbers, but when it comes down to it, he isnt your guy. The San Diego game is a good example. He didnt play terrible, but when it came to 3rd down with a chance to go up by 10pts, he drops the snap, they settle for 3 and lose the game. Did anybody think with a minute left there was a chance they would march down the field, score a TD and win with Jake? At best the Broncos could hope for a situation like the 2000 Ravens, but as of now, the Bronocs need thier QB to be clutch. Jake just isnt clutch and I dont see that changing. That being said he is our best bet this late in the season. Can anybody recall a rookie taking the helm late in the season and leading a team to a Superbowl? Isnt that the goal? We are stuck with Jake until the season is over.

I think everyone is jumping the gun with Cutler. We lost ONE GAME. We are still 7-3 w/ the inside track to the playoffs. Our real problem is that we have been abandoning our running game. For our passing game to work we need the running game clicking on all cylinders. Jake is most effective running play action and bootlegs outside of the pocket. Everyone knows this. This year Shanahan seems obsessed with making Jake a pocket passer. This hamstrings our offense as Jake is too short and lacks the touch required to control the clock with touch passes. The deep ball and his ability to create are Jakes two biggest strengths. Our running game is what will set that up. Give the opposing D a steady diet of runs and watch the safeties creep up. Suddenly there are 9 men in the box and the field is wide open for walker to get loose. So stick with Jake for the rest of the year, and morer importantly stick with the running game. 50+ carries a game will translate into to Victories and get allow Jake to do waht he does best.

I think everyone is jumping the gun with Cutler. We lost ONE GAME. We are still 7-3 w/ the inside track to the playoffs. Our real problem is that we have been abandoning our running game. For our passing game to work we need the running game clicking on all cylinders. Jake is most effective running play action and bootlegs outside of the pocket. Everyone knows this. This year Shanahan seems obsessed with making Jake a pocket passer. This hamstrings our offense as Jake is too short and lacks the touch required to control the clock with touch passes. The deep ball and his ability to create are Jakes two biggest strengths. Our running game is what will set that up. Give the opposing D a steady diet of runs and watch the safeties creep up. Suddenly there are 9 men in the box and the field is wide open for walker to get loose. So stick with Jake for the rest of the year, and morer importantly stick with the running game. 50+ carries a game will translate into to Victories and get allow Jake to do waht he does best.

I think everyone is jumping the gun with Cutler. We lost ONE GAME. We are still 7-3 w/ the inside track to the playoffs. Our real problem is that we have been abandoning our running game. For our passing game to work we need the running game clicking on all cylinders. Jake is most effective running play action and bootlegs outside of the pocket. Everyone knows this. This year Shanahan seems obsessed with making Jake a pocket passer. This hamstrings our offense as Jake is too short and lacks the touch required to control the clock with touch passes. The deep ball and his ability to create are Jakes two biggest strengths. Our running game is what will set that up. Give the opposing D a steady diet of runs and watch the safeties creep up. Suddenly there are 9 men in the box and the field is wide open for walker to get loose. So stick with Jake for the rest of the year, and morer importantly stick with the running game. 50+ carries a game will translate into to Victories and get allow Jake to do waht he does best.

Adam

I love the Sneake too. I have been telling everybody to lay off all year and that he will get the job done; however, when ne threw the pick on Sunday night I left the stadium and told myself it was time to start being honest about the situation. The truth is- no, we can’t blame Jake entirely fo the loss (defense was horrible in the second half), but when the game is on the line, we need a quarteback who we have faith in! Sure, Jay Cutler has’nt proved anything yet but if a mistake is going to be made, I’d rather it come from a rookie who shows TONS of promise. Let’s start the future NOW, and let Jay learn as he goes along. He could prove to be worth it. Jake is not going to get us to the Superbowl no matter how much we want him to. I just cannot defend him anymore.

Adam

I love the Sneake too. I have been telling everybody to lay off all year and that he will get the job done; however, when ne threw the pick on Sunday night I left the stadium and told myself it was time to start being honest about the situation. The truth is- no, we can’t blame Jake entirely fo the loss (defense was horrible in the second half), but when the game is on the line, we need a quarteback who we have faith in! Sure, Jay Cutler has’nt proved anything yet but if a mistake is going to be made, I’d rather it come from a rookie who shows TONS of promise. Let’s start the future NOW, and let Jay learn as he goes along. He could prove to be worth it. Jake is not going to get us to the Superbowl no matter how much we want him to. I just cannot defend him anymore.

Adam

I love the Sneake too. I have been telling everybody to lay off all year and that he will get the job done; however, when ne threw the pick on Sunday night I left the stadium and told myself it was time to start being honest about the situation. The truth is- no, we can’t blame Jake entirely fo the loss (defense was horrible in the second half), but when the game is on the line, we need a quarteback who we have faith in! Sure, Jay Cutler has’nt proved anything yet but if a mistake is going to be made, I’d rather it come from a rookie who shows TONS of promise. Let’s start the future NOW, and let Jay learn as he goes along. He could prove to be worth it. Jake is not going to get us to the Superbowl no matter how much we want him to. I just cannot defend him anymore.

Andrew

I was one of Jake’s biggest supporters coming into the season. All the “Put Cutler in” peeople really irritated me as I saw them as rocking the boat after we had been one game away from the SB last year.

Now, I find myself holding my breath everytime Jake drops back to throw the ball. It pains me when I see Rod Smith looking older than he should b/c our offense is… well just not good.

This is not the way things should be and i think we all know it.

I know that it is possible to ruin a rookie and Shananhan is clearly aware of that. But this team is in dire need of consistancy at the QB position. jake has a great winning %, but I think one could make a decent argument that the Broncos have been winning despite Jake, not so much b/c of him.

I hope “The Kid” is all the hype and more, b/c after this season, Jake is on his way to the NFC.

Additionally, Denver fans do need to keep in mind how lcuky we have it. We are a perennial playoff team and we need to be thankful for that. How teams can enter every season saying “SB or bust???” not many.

Andrew

I was one of Jake’s biggest supporters coming into the season. All the “Put Cutler in” peeople really irritated me as I saw them as rocking the boat after we had been one game away from the SB last year.

Now, I find myself holding my breath everytime Jake drops back to throw the ball. It pains me when I see Rod Smith looking older than he should b/c our offense is… well just not good.

This is not the way things should be and i think we all know it.

I know that it is possible to ruin a rookie and Shananhan is clearly aware of that. But this team is in dire need of consistancy at the QB position. jake has a great winning %, but I think one could make a decent argument that the Broncos have been winning despite Jake, not so much b/c of him.

I hope “The Kid” is all the hype and more, b/c after this season, Jake is on his way to the NFC.

Additionally, Denver fans do need to keep in mind how lcuky we have it. We are a perennial playoff team and we need to be thankful for that. How teams can enter every season saying “SB or bust???” not many.

Andrew

I was one of Jake’s biggest supporters coming into the season. All the “Put Cutler in” peeople really irritated me as I saw them as rocking the boat after we had been one game away from the SB last year.

Now, I find myself holding my breath everytime Jake drops back to throw the ball. It pains me when I see Rod Smith looking older than he should b/c our offense is… well just not good.

This is not the way things should be and i think we all know it.

I know that it is possible to ruin a rookie and Shananhan is clearly aware of that. But this team is in dire need of consistancy at the QB position. jake has a great winning %, but I think one could make a decent argument that the Broncos have been winning despite Jake, not so much b/c of him.

I hope “The Kid” is all the hype and more, b/c after this season, Jake is on his way to the NFC.

Additionally, Denver fans do need to keep in mind how lcuky we have it. We are a perennial playoff team and we need to be thankful for that. How teams can enter every season saying “SB or bust???” not many.

J

Im sick of the offense’s problems and the defense caving in at crucial moments, but poople, how IGNORANT YOU ALL LOOK ASKING FOR CUTLER !

Rod Smith said it best – you’re “morons”.

Here’s a concept most of you ‘fans’ cant follow – the team as a whole wants Jake. It doesnt matter how much you’re entertained, how long you’ve been a fan, etc. – they DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR OPINION in the locker room.

Jake has looked bad alot this year, but so has the pass rush, the play calling, the prevent-nothing zone defense of Coyer, the arrogance of shanny to give up on the running game at crucial times, no TE’s, no RB consistency, revolvcing door at the tackle positions and speaking of tackling – perhaps some of the worst arm tackling offenders in the NFL.

Jake looked great last year because everything else worked. Cutler doesnt magically fix this team. He cant give Rod Smith his burst back, he cant put a brain in Coyer’s head and he cant get Darrent Williams to cover with more than his mouth.

This team and Jake should be embarrased of Broncos fans who USED TO BE some of the smartest in the NFL. Now we all look like spoiled brat sore losers because of you fair weather ‘morons’.

Personally, if I was Jay Cutler, Id ask for a trade. Who wants to be YOUR savior at QB ?

You guys are going to ruin him too

J

Im sick of the offense’s problems and the defense caving in at crucial moments, but poople, how IGNORANT YOU ALL LOOK ASKING FOR CUTLER !

Rod Smith said it best – you’re “morons”.

Here’s a concept most of you ‘fans’ cant follow – the team as a whole wants Jake. It doesnt matter how much you’re entertained, how long you’ve been a fan, etc. – they DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR OPINION in the locker room.

Jake has looked bad alot this year, but so has the pass rush, the play calling, the prevent-nothing zone defense of Coyer, the arrogance of shanny to give up on the running game at crucial times, no TE’s, no RB consistency, revolvcing door at the tackle positions and speaking of tackling – perhaps some of the worst arm tackling offenders in the NFL.

Jake looked great last year because everything else worked. Cutler doesnt magically fix this team. He cant give Rod Smith his burst back, he cant put a brain in Coyer’s head and he cant get Darrent Williams to cover with more than his mouth.

This team and Jake should be embarrased of Broncos fans who USED TO BE some of the smartest in the NFL. Now we all look like spoiled brat sore losers because of you fair weather ‘morons’.

Personally, if I was Jay Cutler, Id ask for a trade. Who wants to be YOUR savior at QB ?

You guys are going to ruin him too

J

Im sick of the offense’s problems and the defense caving in at crucial moments, but poople, how IGNORANT YOU ALL LOOK ASKING FOR CUTLER !

Rod Smith said it best – you’re “morons”.

Here’s a concept most of you ‘fans’ cant follow – the team as a whole wants Jake. It doesnt matter how much you’re entertained, how long you’ve been a fan, etc. – they DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR OPINION in the locker room.

Jake has looked bad alot this year, but so has the pass rush, the play calling, the prevent-nothing zone defense of Coyer, the arrogance of shanny to give up on the running game at crucial times, no TE’s, no RB consistency, revolvcing door at the tackle positions and speaking of tackling – perhaps some of the worst arm tackling offenders in the NFL.

Jake looked great last year because everything else worked. Cutler doesnt magically fix this team. He cant give Rod Smith his burst back, he cant put a brain in Coyer’s head and he cant get Darrent Williams to cover with more than his mouth.

This team and Jake should be embarrased of Broncos fans who USED TO BE some of the smartest in the NFL. Now we all look like spoiled brat sore losers because of you fair weather ‘morons’.

Personally, if I was Jay Cutler, Id ask for a trade. Who wants to be YOUR savior at QB ?

You guys are going to ruin him too

Scott MBNA

Can we suit up Elway?

Scott MBNA

Can we suit up Elway?

Doggie

Here is the reality: 1)Denver won’t get anywhere this season. They will barely make the playoffs and then lose the first game. Why? Because Plummer is playing terrible and is not clutch, our defensive line cannot adequately pressure the opposing quarterbacks, and our play calling and defensive schemes aren’t working well. 2)We will stumble next season with a rookie quarterback- but one who has great promise.
What we need to do for an excellent team- 3 seasons from now…
1)Start grooming Cutler next season. 2)Draft better defensive linemen and give them a year of development. 3)Bring in somebody to replace Coyer. 4)Draft another good wide receiver who can develop with Cutler and compliment Walker. 5)Draft another safety to replace aging Lynch. And lastly, if possible 6)Start working on a replacement for Nalen who is not far from retiring.

Matt

I agree with adam and any true bronco fan should know we are not going to the superbowl with jake as are qb we all know that jay couldent do as bad as plummer is doing this year are so called superbowl team at the beginning of the year is slipping away from 1 person and that person is jake and everyone knows it

Matt

I agree with adam and any true bronco fan should know we are not going to the superbowl with jake as are qb we all know that jay couldent do as bad as plummer is doing this year are so called superbowl team at the beginning of the year is slipping away from 1 person and that person is jake and everyone knows it

Doggie

Here is the reality: 1)Denver won’t get anywhere this season. They will barely make the playoffs and then lose the first game. Why? Because Plummer is playing terrible and is not clutch, our defensive line cannot adequately pressure the opposing quarterbacks, and our play calling and defensive schemes aren’t working well. 2)We will stumble next season with a rookie quarterback- but one who has great promise.
What we need to do for an excellent team- 3 seasons from now…
1)Start grooming Cutler next season. 2)Draft better defensive linemen and give them a year of development. 3)Bring in somebody to replace Coyer. 4)Draft another good wide receiver who can develop with Cutler and compliment Walker. 5)Draft another safety to replace aging Lynch. And lastly, if possible 6)Start working on a replacement for Nalen who is not far from retiring.

Doggie

Here is the reality: 1)Denver won’t get anywhere this season. They will barely make the playoffs and then lose the first game. Why? Because Plummer is playing terrible and is not clutch, our defensive line cannot adequately pressure the opposing quarterbacks, and our play calling and defensive schemes aren’t working well. 2)We will stumble next season with a rookie quarterback- but one who has great promise.
What we need to do for an excellent team- 3 seasons from now…
1)Start grooming Cutler next season. 2)Draft better defensive linemen and give them a year of development. 3)Bring in somebody to replace Coyer. 4)Draft another good wide receiver who can develop with Cutler and compliment Walker. 5)Draft another safety to replace aging Lynch. And lastly, if possible 6)Start working on a replacement for Nalen who is not far from retiring.

Matt

I agree with adam and any true bronco fan should know we are not going to the superbowl with jake as are qb we all know that jay couldent do as bad as plummer is doing this year are so called superbowl team at the beginning of the year is slipping away from 1 person and that person is jake and everyone knows it

Dupree

The most OVERRATTED defense in the NFL lives here. What an embarrasment!

Dupree

The most OVERRATTED defense in the NFL lives here. What an embarrasment!

Dupree

The most OVERRATTED defense in the NFL lives here. What an embarrasment!

david

sit plummer after the kc game. the reason for the poor offensive showing is clearly on the qb. defenses are stacking the line with 8 people and daring the broncos to pass, and why not , plummers passing efficeincy is horrible like 29th in the league. he looks uncomfortable, passes are always off target and hard to catch. when was the last time you saw a denver reciver catch a pass in stride and get yac. take away about 5 pass plays to walker and i cant remember one. cutler may not be able to solve all the problems with this team but it starts every play with the qb. he cant do any worse than jake and i have a feeling he will rise to the occassion and ge the job done. and for all the people who question his college #s, there was a hall of fame qb who came from a no name college, who didnt go to a bowl game and his most famous game was a loss on the last play a kickoff return, can you name this qb????? JOHN ELWAY

david

sit plummer after the kc game. the reason for the poor offensive showing is clearly on the qb. defenses are stacking the line with 8 people and daring the broncos to pass, and why not , plummers passing efficeincy is horrible like 29th in the league. he looks uncomfortable, passes are always off target and hard to catch. when was the last time you saw a denver reciver catch a pass in stride and get yac. take away about 5 pass plays to walker and i cant remember one. cutler may not be able to solve all the problems with this team but it starts every play with the qb. he cant do any worse than jake and i have a feeling he will rise to the occassion and ge the job done. and for all the people who question his college #s, there was a hall of fame qb who came from a no name college, who didnt go to a bowl game and his most famous game was a loss on the last play a kickoff return, can you name this qb????? JOHN ELWAY

david

sit plummer after the kc game. the reason for the poor offensive showing is clearly on the qb. defenses are stacking the line with 8 people and daring the broncos to pass, and why not , plummers passing efficeincy is horrible like 29th in the league. he looks uncomfortable, passes are always off target and hard to catch. when was the last time you saw a denver reciver catch a pass in stride and get yac. take away about 5 pass plays to walker and i cant remember one. cutler may not be able to solve all the problems with this team but it starts every play with the qb. he cant do any worse than jake and i have a feeling he will rise to the occassion and ge the job done. and for all the people who question his college #s, there was a hall of fame qb who came from a no name college, who didnt go to a bowl game and his most famous game was a loss on the last play a kickoff return, can you name this qb????? JOHN ELWAY

Will T

I agree with Daniel. All you so called fans of the Broncos NEVER gave Plummer a chance. He makes mistakes but for the idiot that asked “does he even want to play in the NFL?” Youâ€™re a moron. Youâ€™re probably some H.S drop-out that thought if he had stayed in school he could have gone to the NFL and done much better. For those that ask if Plummer has ever won a game for us? Strangely enough the team hasnâ€™t changed a whole lot since the Griese days yet Plummer has won 75% of all his games played and the Broncs have gone to the play-offs every one of his years here. I am not an idiot, I see his days are numbered and so does he. Give him some credit. He has had a long career in the NFL and the Broncs likely will get a good trade and maybe even a 2nd round pick to whomever they deal him to. Iâ€™m tired of hearing the boos from the so called fans for apparently the only guy that can lose the game for us. I mean he lost the Colts game for us right? He was out there in coverage against R.Wayne and got schooled. He must be responsible for T.Bellâ€™s turf toe too. I wish heâ€™d go back to line-backing school so he can stop LT next time we play the Chargers because it sure seemed like no one could cover him or tackle him so he must certainly be to blame for that. Also, receivers have dropped their share of passes; even the all mighty Walker dropped a sure touchdown that was right in the basket. Kyle Johnson dropped one on an easy goal line pass, everyone remember that?? The point is not everything is Jakes fault and I feel he never got a fair shot and winning over the fair season fans that most of you are. I love the Broncs through good and bad and reading crap like this about a decent down to earth guy is BS. If you can see me now I am fixing my hat and giving you the bird.

Will T

I agree with Daniel. All you so called fans of the Broncos NEVER gave Plummer a chance. He makes mistakes but for the idiot that asked “does he even want to play in the NFL?” Youâ€™re a moron. Youâ€™re probably some H.S drop-out that thought if he had stayed in school he could have gone to the NFL and done much better. For those that ask if Plummer has ever won a game for us? Strangely enough the team hasnâ€™t changed a whole lot since the Griese days yet Plummer has won 75% of all his games played and the Broncs have gone to the play-offs every one of his years here. I am not an idiot, I see his days are numbered and so does he. Give him some credit. He has had a long career in the NFL and the Broncs likely will get a good trade and maybe even a 2nd round pick to whomever they deal him to. Iâ€™m tired of hearing the boos from the so called fans for apparently the only guy that can lose the game for us. I mean he lost the Colts game for us right? He was out there in coverage against R.Wayne and got schooled. He must be responsible for T.Bellâ€™s turf toe too. I wish heâ€™d go back to line-backing school so he can stop LT next time we play the Chargers because it sure seemed like no one could cover him or tackle him so he must certainly be to blame for that. Also, receivers have dropped their share of passes; even the all mighty Walker dropped a sure touchdown that was right in the basket. Kyle Johnson dropped one on an easy goal line pass, everyone remember that?? The point is not everything is Jakes fault and I feel he never got a fair shot and winning over the fair season fans that most of you are. I love the Broncs through good and bad and reading crap like this about a decent down to earth guy is BS. If you can see me now I am fixing my hat and giving you the bird.

Kevin

The past is just that – past. The Broncos record is good but is that what you are happy with – a good record? I’m tired of the “no rookie quarterback has ever won the super bowl” talk. Has a quarter back as bad as “Jake the Mistake” ever won the super bowl? I don’t think so.

Kevin

The past is just that – past. The Broncos record is good but is that what you are happy with – a good record? I’m tired of the “no rookie quarterback has ever won the super bowl” talk. Has a quarter back as bad as “Jake the Mistake” ever won the super bowl? I don’t think so.

BRNCOFN

It seems to me like everyone is WAAAAAY too focused on Jake Plummer. In the years that Jake has been here, it’s true that he has had a very good record; but this isn’t baseball where a player’s success is determined solely by the stats.
Jake has won games because Mike Shanahan is one of the greatest coaches in the NFL and because we’ve had a pretty solid defense over the years. Think for a second about what Jake’s record would be if he had played on the teams Elway had.
In Denver, we are used to a team’s success being totally dependant on a quarterback because Elway was God for so many years. This is understandable, but at some point we have to look elsewhere.
I am not saying Jake is any good, but he’s also not the worst QB in the league. Neither he nor Jay Cutler are taking us to the Super Bowl. If the Broncos are in the SB this year, it’s because of Mike Shanahan and our defense.
So let’s start spreading the criticism around a bit shall we? So far our defense hasn’t been able to stop a good offense (see Colts and Chargers) and Mike’s play calling has been a bit suspect of late.
Solving the Jake Plummer problem isn’t going to win games this year – it never was. Let’s focus our attention on what will win games.

BRNCOFN

It seems to me like everyone is WAAAAAY too focused on Jake Plummer. In the years that Jake has been here, it’s true that he has had a very good record; but this isn’t baseball where a player’s success is determined solely by the stats.
Jake has won games because Mike Shanahan is one of the greatest coaches in the NFL and because we’ve had a pretty solid defense over the years. Think for a second about what Jake’s record would be if he had played on the teams Elway had.
In Denver, we are used to a team’s success being totally dependant on a quarterback because Elway was God for so many years. This is understandable, but at some point we have to look elsewhere.
I am not saying Jake is any good, but he’s also not the worst QB in the league. Neither he nor Jay Cutler are taking us to the Super Bowl. If the Broncos are in the SB this year, it’s because of Mike Shanahan and our defense.
So let’s start spreading the criticism around a bit shall we? So far our defense hasn’t been able to stop a good offense (see Colts and Chargers) and Mike’s play calling has been a bit suspect of late.
Solving the Jake Plummer problem isn’t going to win games this year – it never was. Let’s focus our attention on what will win games.

Bronco Fan in Ohio

They do need to run the ball more and get the other WR’s into the game. If it is Plummer’s last year starting I think its Rod Smith’s too.

Bronco Fan in Ohio

They do need to run the ball more and get the other WR’s into the game. If it is Plummer’s last year starting I think its Rod Smith’s too.

Bronco Fan in Ohio

They do need to run the ball more and get the other WR’s into the game. If it is Plummer’s last year starting I think its Rod Smith’s too.

Laura

Since we are blaming everything on Jake Plummer are we going to blame him for the 4 touchdown LT put up. Or for the come back of Manning when they played the Colts. I guess all that happens is Plummers fault. Open your eyes fans.

Laura

Since we are blaming everything on Jake Plummer are we going to blame him for the 4 touchdown LT put up. Or for the come back of Manning when they played the Colts. I guess all that happens is Plummers fault. Open your eyes fans.

Sam

Come on now be realistic, when the all famous BRONCO FANS in Denver Boo the Quarterback that takes the cake. Bronco fans are the best fans there is and will ever be. If we could only find a quarterback that we can depend on and actully be able to watch the game with out being disappointed. Jake is so worried about his sacking stats that he just throws the ball any where to get rid of it even to the other team. Any thing would have to be an approvement.Let Jake sit out a few games and give Cutler a change what can it hurt.

Sam

Come on now be realistic, when the all famous BRONCO FANS in Denver Boo the Quarterback that takes the cake. Bronco fans are the best fans there is and will ever be. If we could only find a quarterback that we can depend on and actully be able to watch the game with out being disappointed. Jake is so worried about his sacking stats that he just throws the ball any where to get rid of it even to the other team. Any thing would have to be an approvement.Let Jake sit out a few games and give Cutler a change what can it hurt.

CB

Plummer had his chance to shine last year when we got 2 home games at invesco in the playoffs and could have been in the Superbowl. He struggled against New England and luckily, the defense and Champ bailed him out. Than against Pittsburgh he played alot like he has played this year and they got killed.

I think we know what Jake can do at this point and he cannot play consistently from game to game(even qtr to qtr).He is horrible on 3rd down and if its 3rd and long will throw it to the other team. Shanahans has said NFL qb’s make their living on third down.

I think Plummer will still play against KC and hopefully find a way to win. KC is going to be playing aggressive defensively and I would like to see them use that screen pass play that worked pretty well against SD. He will need to hit some passes that will open up the running game though. Denver is not going to just be able to come out and run the ball at will.

Anyone who has followed the Broncos knows Arrowhead has been a difficult place to win for Denver. I dont see them winning. I would like to see Cutler if Plummer is not on his game in the first half.

KC has know idea what Cutler can do and he could suprise them with a couple of big throws and give the team a well needed spark. I think even the defense gets tired of always having to stand on their heads to win these games and they are starting to show the effects of a long season.
Blame the defense all you want for collapsing last week but remember that the offense only put up 20 pts(without the interception)and no way are you going to keep San Diego under 20 pts the way they are playing.

If Plummers poor play continues I think with 10 days to prepare for Seattle at home, Jay Cutler will be given a chance to start. I look foward to seeing what he can do. I enjoyed just watching Cutlers throwing motion during the preseason,I never saw him throw a ball that wasn’t on target, he is going to be a star, I wish Shanahan would have played him sooner instead of waiting till the team is desperate.

CB

Plummer had his chance to shine last year when we got 2 home games at invesco in the playoffs and could have been in the Superbowl. He struggled against New England and luckily, the defense and Champ bailed him out. Than against Pittsburgh he played alot like he has played this year and they got killed.

I think we know what Jake can do at this point and he cannot play consistently from game to game(even qtr to qtr).He is horrible on 3rd down and if its 3rd and long will throw it to the other team. Shanahans has said NFL qb’s make their living on third down.

I think Plummer will still play against KC and hopefully find a way to win. KC is going to be playing aggressive defensively and I would like to see them use that screen pass play that worked pretty well against SD. He will need to hit some passes that will open up the running game though. Denver is not going to just be able to come out and run the ball at will.

Anyone who has followed the Broncos knows Arrowhead has been a difficult place to win for Denver. I dont see them winning. I would like to see Cutler if Plummer is not on his game in the first half.

KC has know idea what Cutler can do and he could suprise them with a couple of big throws and give the team a well needed spark. I think even the defense gets tired of always having to stand on their heads to win these games and they are starting to show the effects of a long season.
Blame the defense all you want for collapsing last week but remember that the offense only put up 20 pts(without the interception)and no way are you going to keep San Diego under 20 pts the way they are playing.

If Plummers poor play continues I think with 10 days to prepare for Seattle at home, Jay Cutler will be given a chance to start. I look foward to seeing what he can do. I enjoyed just watching Cutlers throwing motion during the preseason,I never saw him throw a ball that wasn’t on target, he is going to be a star, I wish Shanahan would have played him sooner instead of waiting till the team is desperate.

CB

Plummer had his chance to shine last year when we got 2 home games at invesco in the playoffs and could have been in the Superbowl. He struggled against New England and luckily, the defense and Champ bailed him out. Than against Pittsburgh he played alot like he has played this year and they got killed.

I think we know what Jake can do at this point and he cannot play consistently from game to game(even qtr to qtr).He is horrible on 3rd down and if its 3rd and long will throw it to the other team. Shanahans has said NFL qb’s make their living on third down.

I think Plummer will still play against KC and hopefully find a way to win. KC is going to be playing aggressive defensively and I would like to see them use that screen pass play that worked pretty well against SD. He will need to hit some passes that will open up the running game though. Denver is not going to just be able to come out and run the ball at will.

Anyone who has followed the Broncos knows Arrowhead has been a difficult place to win for Denver. I dont see them winning. I would like to see Cutler if Plummer is not on his game in the first half.

KC has know idea what Cutler can do and he could suprise them with a couple of big throws and give the team a well needed spark. I think even the defense gets tired of always having to stand on their heads to win these games and they are starting to show the effects of a long season.
Blame the defense all you want for collapsing last week but remember that the offense only put up 20 pts(without the interception)and no way are you going to keep San Diego under 20 pts the way they are playing.

If Plummers poor play continues I think with 10 days to prepare for Seattle at home, Jay Cutler will be given a chance to start. I look foward to seeing what he can do. I enjoyed just watching Cutlers throwing motion during the preseason,I never saw him throw a ball that wasn’t on target, he is going to be a star, I wish Shanahan would have played him sooner instead of waiting till the team is desperate.

CB

Plummer had his chance to shine last year when we got 2 home games at invesco in the playoffs and could have been in the Superbowl. He struggled against New England and luckily, the defense and Champ bailed him out. Than against Pittsburgh he played alot like he has played this year and they got killed.

I think we know what Jake can do at this point and he cannot play consistently from game to game(even qtr to qtr).He is horrible on 3rd down and if its 3rd and long will throw it to the other team. Shanahans has said NFL qb’s make their living on third down.

I think Plummer will still play against KC and hopefully find a way to win. KC is going to be playing aggressive defensively and I would like to see them use that screen pass play that worked pretty well against SD. He will need to hit some passes that will open up the running game though. Denver is not going to just be able to come out and run the ball at will.

Anyone who has followed the Broncos knows Arrowhead has been a difficult place to win for Denver. I dont see them winning. I would like to see Cutler if Plummer is not on his game in the first half.

KC has know idea what Cutler can do and he could suprise them with a couple of big throws and give the team a well needed spark. I think even the defense gets tired of always having to stand on their heads to win these games and they are starting to show the effects of a long season.
Blame the defense all you want for collapsing last week but remember that the offense only put up 20 pts(without the interception)and no way are you going to keep San Diego under 20 pts the way they are playing.

If Plummers poor play continues I think with 10 days to prepare for Seattle at home, Jay Cutler will be given a chance to start. I look foward to seeing what he can do. I enjoyed just watching Cutlers throwing motion during the preseason,I never saw him throw a ball that wasn’t on target, he is going to be a star, I wish Shanahan would have played him sooner instead of waiting till the team is desperate.

snappietom

The donkeys in Arrowhead? Look for a ground game with the Chiefs. Larry Johnson rushes for 140+. Chiefs win in a low scoring affair.

snappietom

The donkeys in Arrowhead? Look for a ground game with the Chiefs. Larry Johnson rushes for 140+. Chiefs win in a low scoring affair.

snappietom

The donkeys in Arrowhead? Look for a ground game with the Chiefs. Larry Johnson rushes for 140+. Chiefs win in a low scoring affair.

Bill

It should be apparent to most people who have seen Jake in action since his arrival in Denver that he is not going to lead the Broncos to the Superbowl.

Jake’s 2006 performance further solidifies the logic that the Broncos are not going to win even if they make it to the playoffs. If this is the case and the Broncos are not going to the Superbowl than I say that Jay Cutler should be given the chance to gain some valuable experience. Cutler would benefit greatly in 2007 if he has some experience under his belt from 2006.

Bill

It should be apparent to most people who have seen Jake in action since his arrival in Denver that he is not going to lead the Broncos to the Superbowl.

Jake’s 2006 performance further solidifies the logic that the Broncos are not going to win even if they make it to the playoffs. If this is the case and the Broncos are not going to the Superbowl than I say that Jay Cutler should be given the chance to gain some valuable experience. Cutler would benefit greatly in 2007 if he has some experience under his belt from 2006.

Bill

It should be apparent to most people who have seen Jake in action since his arrival in Denver that he is not going to lead the Broncos to the Superbowl.

Jake’s 2006 performance further solidifies the logic that the Broncos are not going to win even if they make it to the playoffs. If this is the case and the Broncos are not going to the Superbowl than I say that Jay Cutler should be given the chance to gain some valuable experience. Cutler would benefit greatly in 2007 if he has some experience under his belt from 2006.

dru

Theres a reason QB’s get so much credit and blame. They touch the ball every offensive play. Our run game doesn’t work because teams aren’t afraid of Jake throwing. Our defense looks bad because of turnovers & bad field position.

And I wonder how many don’t you dare claim to be a “real” Bronco fan, or accuse others of not. Just because someone doesn’t agree with yiu, doesn’t mean they’re wrong.

We should have never started Elway, shoulda stuck with DeBerg right?

dru

Theres a reason QB’s get so much credit and blame. They touch the ball every offensive play. Our run game doesn’t work because teams aren’t afraid of Jake throwing. Our defense looks bad because of turnovers & bad field position.

And I wonder how many don’t you dare claim to be a “real” Bronco fan, or accuse others of not. Just because someone doesn’t agree with yiu, doesn’t mean they’re wrong.

We should have never started Elway, shoulda stuck with DeBerg right?

dru

Theres a reason QB’s get so much credit and blame. They touch the ball every offensive play. Our run game doesn’t work because teams aren’t afraid of Jake throwing. Our defense looks bad because of turnovers & bad field position.

And I wonder how many don’t you dare claim to be a “real” Bronco fan, or accuse others of not. Just because someone doesn’t agree with yiu, doesn’t mean they’re wrong.

We should have never started Elway, shoulda stuck with DeBerg right?

PhoeniX

Hey Chuck, first of all the DEFENSE scored seven of those 27 points the offense got two touchdowns against a Defense who the week before gave up 42(or 41 can’t remember) but hey things are going just fine in your mind right? listen maybe if you actually WATCHED a game you could see what most of us see, Plummer has to go.

PhoeniX

Hey Chuck, first of all the DEFENSE scored seven of those 27 points the offense got two touchdowns against a Defense who the week before gave up 42(or 41 can’t remember) but hey things are going just fine in your mind right? listen maybe if you actually WATCHED a game you could see what most of us see, Plummer has to go.

PhoeniX

Hey Chuck, first of all the DEFENSE scored seven of those 27 points the offense got two touchdowns against a Defense who the week before gave up 42(or 41 can’t remember) but hey things are going just fine in your mind right? listen maybe if you actually WATCHED a game you could see what most of us see, Plummer has to go.

the little guy

Jake or Jay is not the real issue. As I see it Coach Shanahan made the mistake of not preparing for a situation in which he was planning to reduce his starting quarterback to lame duck statis.Jake had the best season of his career in 2005. He was rewarded not by the orginazation helping him but rather moving past him and leaving him behind.2 things can happen in that situation.
1)you become Drew Brees and play well auditioning for someone else.
2)You hate to admit it but you just don’t have the passion anymore and you feel betrayed.
Jake unitentionally has chosen the latter and by not bringing in a veteran quarterback to prepare for this situation Coach Shannhan has left his team wide open for possible collapse.No rookie quarterback that has played in the N.F.L in the last 50 years could be the answer for the broncos in this situation. Neither is Jake Plummer in a situation when he’s playing for a team that doesn’t want him.There should’ve been a veteran alternative. By the way…The San Diego loss was Shanahan’s fault.All I can say is you have a 17 point lead against a team that has not begun to stop your rushing attack. You do the math. How good could Tomlinson be if he can’t get on the field.

the little guy

Jake or Jay is not the real issue. As I see it Coach Shanahan made the mistake of not preparing for a situation in which he was planning to reduce his starting quarterback to lame duck statis.Jake had the best season of his career in 2005. He was rewarded not by the orginazation helping him but rather moving past him and leaving him behind.2 things can happen in that situation.
1)you become Drew Brees and play well auditioning for someone else.
2)You hate to admit it but you just don’t have the passion anymore and you feel betrayed.
Jake unitentionally has chosen the latter and by not bringing in a veteran quarterback to prepare for this situation Coach Shannhan has left his team wide open for possible collapse.No rookie quarterback that has played in the N.F.L in the last 50 years could be the answer for the broncos in this situation. Neither is Jake Plummer in a situation when he’s playing for a team that doesn’t want him.There should’ve been a veteran alternative. By the way…The San Diego loss was Shanahan’s fault.All I can say is you have a 17 point lead against a team that has not begun to stop your rushing attack. You do the math. How good could Tomlinson be if he can’t get on the field.

the little guy

Jake or Jay is not the real issue. As I see it Coach Shanahan made the mistake of not preparing for a situation in which he was planning to reduce his starting quarterback to lame duck statis.Jake had the best season of his career in 2005. He was rewarded not by the orginazation helping him but rather moving past him and leaving him behind.2 things can happen in that situation.
1)you become Drew Brees and play well auditioning for someone else.
2)You hate to admit it but you just don’t have the passion anymore and you feel betrayed.
Jake unitentionally has chosen the latter and by not bringing in a veteran quarterback to prepare for this situation Coach Shannhan has left his team wide open for possible collapse.No rookie quarterback that has played in the N.F.L in the last 50 years could be the answer for the broncos in this situation. Neither is Jake Plummer in a situation when he’s playing for a team that doesn’t want him.There should’ve been a veteran alternative. By the way…The San Diego loss was Shanahan’s fault.All I can say is you have a 17 point lead against a team that has not begun to stop your rushing attack. You do the math. How good could Tomlinson be if he can’t get on the field.

Joey

You’ll see the same production with Cutler and here’s why, the head coach won’t trust a rookie any more than Plummer. His strategy has been to leave it up to the defense this year, which hasn’t worked the last two home games.

Rod was our only returning starter at the skill positions this year. It takes some time and some breathing room at the QB position to develop a chemistry with new (young) players, no matter how talented. Most of us forget that it took three weeks and Rod pleading for a lessor role in the offense before we even got Javon the ball. Bottom line is that Brandon Marshall, Tony Sheffler, and David Kircus could all be contributors right now if we would have developed a chemistry on O. KC, Cleveland, Oakland (twice), and St. Louis were the games to get this done. Instead we ran the ball into a brick wall 50 times and hoped our “D” would hold.

New England had a similar situation this year, struggled through some tough wins and now appears to have a capable offense. We’ve seen what Jake can do last year…remember the MVP talks? Can we really attribute his poor play soley to a monumental collapse on his part?

Joey

You’ll see the same production with Cutler and here’s why, the head coach won’t trust a rookie any more than Plummer. His strategy has been to leave it up to the defense this year, which hasn’t worked the last two home games.

Rod was our only returning starter at the skill positions this year. It takes some time and some breathing room at the QB position to develop a chemistry with new (young) players, no matter how talented. Most of us forget that it took three weeks and Rod pleading for a lessor role in the offense before we even got Javon the ball. Bottom line is that Brandon Marshall, Tony Sheffler, and David Kircus could all be contributors right now if we would have developed a chemistry on O. KC, Cleveland, Oakland (twice), and St. Louis were the games to get this done. Instead we ran the ball into a brick wall 50 times and hoped our “D” would hold.

New England had a similar situation this year, struggled through some tough wins and now appears to have a capable offense. We’ve seen what Jake can do last year…remember the MVP talks? Can we really attribute his poor play soley to a monumental collapse on his part?

Joey

You’ll see the same production with Cutler and here’s why, the head coach won’t trust a rookie any more than Plummer. His strategy has been to leave it up to the defense this year, which hasn’t worked the last two home games.

Rod was our only returning starter at the skill positions this year. It takes some time and some breathing room at the QB position to develop a chemistry with new (young) players, no matter how talented. Most of us forget that it took three weeks and Rod pleading for a lessor role in the offense before we even got Javon the ball. Bottom line is that Brandon Marshall, Tony Sheffler, and David Kircus could all be contributors right now if we would have developed a chemistry on O. KC, Cleveland, Oakland (twice), and St. Louis were the games to get this done. Instead we ran the ball into a brick wall 50 times and hoped our “D” would hold.

New England had a similar situation this year, struggled through some tough wins and now appears to have a capable offense. We’ve seen what Jake can do last year…remember the MVP talks? Can we really attribute his poor play soley to a monumental collapse on his part?

MM

I’m a huge Jake Plummer fan, but he is definitely in a funk and needs to sit out for a game or two. I like his “there’s life (moare important things) other than football philosophy (his head is on straight in that regard), but while he’s on the field, I think he needs to realize that this profession he chose requires a more narrow view of life and the urgency of being there for his team and fans.

MM

I’m a huge Jake Plummer fan, but he is definitely in a funk and needs to sit out for a game or two. I like his “there’s life (moare important things) other than football philosophy (his head is on straight in that regard), but while he’s on the field, I think he needs to realize that this profession he chose requires a more narrow view of life and the urgency of being there for his team and fans.

realfan

I see at least a hand full of you actually sound like they actually have some knowledege of the game.If coming into the Plummer era we were told it would take Jake 3 years to run this complex offense, what makes you think a rookie can do it in one year? Of course, This isn’t a Tony Romo situation because he was 4 years into the Dallas system. It’s so ignorant of any real fan to honestly think we should conceed the season to a rookie. Yeah, he’s the future. But, way to sink the season by thinking that Cutler can get it done right now. What the heck ever happened to letting Jake execute the play action bootleg like last season? We owned teams all day with that. Want to see Jake & this offense to do well? Call plays that emphasize his strengths. And get that running game on track. As disgusting as it is to hear people boo our starting QB I almost hope you get your wish this year,so you can find out how ignorant that starting Cutler would be. Then you’ll run him into the ground,too. Maybe then you’ll be a happy fan, if you were ever able a true Bronco fan to begin with.

realfan

I see at least a hand full of you actually sound like they actually have some knowledege of the game.If coming into the Plummer era we were told it would take Jake 3 years to run this complex offense, what makes you think a rookie can do it in one year? Of course, This isn’t a Tony Romo situation because he was 4 years into the Dallas system. It’s so ignorant of any real fan to honestly think we should conceed the season to a rookie. Yeah, he’s the future. But, way to sink the season by thinking that Cutler can get it done right now. What the heck ever happened to letting Jake execute the play action bootleg like last season? We owned teams all day with that. Want to see Jake & this offense to do well? Call plays that emphasize his strengths. And get that running game on track. As disgusting as it is to hear people boo our starting QB I almost hope you get your wish this year,so you can find out how ignorant that starting Cutler would be. Then you’ll run him into the ground,too. Maybe then you’ll be a happy fan, if you were ever able a true Bronco fan to begin with.

MM

Let’s also not forget that every quarterback the Broncos have faced this year has had about 5 or more seconds to get rid of the ball — we have no pass rush!!
In addition, our quick, agile offensive line, as goodas it is on running plays, can’t protect, and Jake has developed “happy feet” from being in constant danger.

realfan

I see at least a hand full of you actually sound like they actually have some knowledege of the game.If coming into the Plummer era we were told it would take Jake 3 years to run this complex offense, what makes you think a rookie can do it in one year? Of course, This isn’t a Tony Romo situation because he was 4 years into the Dallas system. It’s so ignorant of any real fan to honestly think we should conceed the season to a rookie. Yeah, he’s the future. But, way to sink the season by thinking that Cutler can get it done right now. What the heck ever happened to letting Jake execute the play action bootleg like last season? We owned teams all day with that. Want to see Jake & this offense to do well? Call plays that emphasize his strengths. And get that running game on track. As disgusting as it is to hear people boo our starting QB I almost hope you get your wish this year,so you can find out how ignorant that starting Cutler would be. Then you’ll run him into the ground,too. Maybe then you’ll be a happy fan, if you were ever able a true Bronco fan to begin with.

MM

Let’s also not forget that every quarterback the Broncos have faced this year has had about 5 or more seconds to get rid of the ball — we have no pass rush!!
In addition, our quick, agile offensive line, as goodas it is on running plays, can’t protect, and Jake has developed “happy feet” from being in constant danger.

Jake was a success last year with Kubiak as his coach. This year Kubiak is gone and its the old Jake. The defense has been exposed as a fraud so we need an offense that can try to keep up with the opponent. That starts with a QB that can hit the broad side of a barn and can tell the difference in uniforms. This season is going in the drink so why not start preparing for next year by breaking in the rookie. It can’t get any worse.

Jake was a success last year with Kubiak as his coach. This year Kubiak is gone and its the old Jake. The defense has been exposed as a fraud so we need an offense that can try to keep up with the opponent. That starts with a QB that can hit the broad side of a barn and can tell the difference in uniforms. This season is going in the drink so why not start preparing for next year by breaking in the rookie. It can’t get any worse.

Jake was a success last year with Kubiak as his coach. This year Kubiak is gone and its the old Jake. The defense has been exposed as a fraud so we need an offense that can try to keep up with the opponent. That starts with a QB that can hit the broad side of a barn and can tell the difference in uniforms. This season is going in the drink so why not start preparing for next year by breaking in the rookie. It can’t get any worse.

david

MM – if the offense could sustain a drive by getting a first down at critical times like the 3rd and 4th quarter when leading, then the defense would have a chance to rest and regroup. we went 3and out twice in the third quarter to let san diego get close then when we finally start a good drive (kickoff return) jake the fake decides he cant take a snap in the shot gun and we settle for a field goal. all offensive plays start and end with the qb. if rivers had played bad we could have stacked the line against LT and he wouldnt have been affective, but rivers was effective enough to keep the defense honest. when is the offense going to carry the load and win a game?? never with jake he cant and wont.

david

MM – if the offense could sustain a drive by getting a first down at critical times like the 3rd and 4th quarter when leading, then the defense would have a chance to rest and regroup. we went 3and out twice in the third quarter to let san diego get close then when we finally start a good drive (kickoff return) jake the fake decides he cant take a snap in the shot gun and we settle for a field goal. all offensive plays start and end with the qb. if rivers had played bad we could have stacked the line against LT and he wouldnt have been affective, but rivers was effective enough to keep the defense honest. when is the offense going to carry the load and win a game?? never with jake he cant and wont.

david

MM – if the offense could sustain a drive by getting a first down at critical times like the 3rd and 4th quarter when leading, then the defense would have a chance to rest and regroup. we went 3and out twice in the third quarter to let san diego get close then when we finally start a good drive (kickoff return) jake the fake decides he cant take a snap in the shot gun and we settle for a field goal. all offensive plays start and end with the qb. if rivers had played bad we could have stacked the line against LT and he wouldnt have been affective, but rivers was effective enough to keep the defense honest. when is the offense going to carry the load and win a game?? never with jake he cant and wont.

BoiseBoy

Listen, Cutler will play when he’s ready. How many of you are at practice everyday seeing if he’s ready? Shanahan knows what he’s doing. Remember guys we have one of the best coaches in the league. He is the one carrying the team and trying to cover all the holes. Plummer deserves SOME of the blame, as do injuries and no pass rush.

BoiseBoy

Listen, Cutler will play when he’s ready. How many of you are at practice everyday seeing if he’s ready? Shanahan knows what he’s doing. Remember guys we have one of the best coaches in the league. He is the one carrying the team and trying to cover all the holes. Plummer deserves SOME of the blame, as do injuries and no pass rush.

BoiseBoy

Listen, Cutler will play when he’s ready. How many of you are at practice everyday seeing if he’s ready? Shanahan knows what he’s doing. Remember guys we have one of the best coaches in the league. He is the one carrying the team and trying to cover all the holes. Plummer deserves SOME of the blame, as do injuries and no pass rush.

M

Dear Realfan,

I believe I do understand football. I also “kinda” agree with you. Unfortunately, calling bootleg plays sounds great but isn’t the answer. The problem is that a defense can take away one part of the offensive game plan…the run, the pass, the bootleg (play action).

Our opponents have watched the film for three years and know how to stop the boot and force Jake to stay in the pocket and beat and try to beat them with his arm. He is, to say the least, a below average pocket passer.

I don’t believe a playoff team should put in a rookie at 7 and 3 or 7 and 4….however, I can’t help but think that we have no chance to win playoff games much less the Superbowl with Jake…..does Cutler give us a chance? We don’t know.

But we haven’t seen him. (Preseason doesn’t count) But we have seen Jake. Maybe we’ve seen enough of him.

The question is…has Shanahan? My guess is that he has.

I really love this forum. Even when I disagree with some of you, it is awesome to live 1400 miles from home and get to talk Broncos. Have a great Thanksgiving!

Hope we win at KC….

M

Dear Realfan,

I believe I do understand football. I also “kinda” agree with you. Unfortunately, calling bootleg plays sounds great but isn’t the answer. The problem is that a defense can take away one part of the offensive game plan…the run, the pass, the bootleg (play action).

Our opponents have watched the film for three years and know how to stop the boot and force Jake to stay in the pocket and beat and try to beat them with his arm. He is, to say the least, a below average pocket passer.

I don’t believe a playoff team should put in a rookie at 7 and 3 or 7 and 4….however, I can’t help but think that we have no chance to win playoff games much less the Superbowl with Jake…..does Cutler give us a chance? We don’t know.

But we haven’t seen him. (Preseason doesn’t count) But we have seen Jake. Maybe we’ve seen enough of him.

The question is…has Shanahan? My guess is that he has.

I really love this forum. Even when I disagree with some of you, it is awesome to live 1400 miles from home and get to talk Broncos. Have a great Thanksgiving!

Hope we win at KC….

M

Dear Realfan,

I believe I do understand football. I also “kinda” agree with you. Unfortunately, calling bootleg plays sounds great but isn’t the answer. The problem is that a defense can take away one part of the offensive game plan…the run, the pass, the bootleg (play action).

Our opponents have watched the film for three years and know how to stop the boot and force Jake to stay in the pocket and beat and try to beat them with his arm. He is, to say the least, a below average pocket passer.

I don’t believe a playoff team should put in a rookie at 7 and 3 or 7 and 4….however, I can’t help but think that we have no chance to win playoff games much less the Superbowl with Jake…..does Cutler give us a chance? We don’t know.

But we haven’t seen him. (Preseason doesn’t count) But we have seen Jake. Maybe we’ve seen enough of him.

The question is…has Shanahan? My guess is that he has.

I really love this forum. Even when I disagree with some of you, it is awesome to live 1400 miles from home and get to talk Broncos. Have a great Thanksgiving!

Hope we win at KC….

M

Dear Realfan,

I believe I do understand football. I also “kinda” agree with you. Unfortunately, calling bootleg plays sounds great but isn’t the answer. The problem is that a defense can take away one part of the offensive game plan…the run, the pass, the bootleg (play action).

Our opponents have watched the film for three years and know how to stop the boot and force Jake to stay in the pocket and beat and try to beat them with his arm. He is, to say the least, a below average pocket passer.

I don’t believe a playoff team should put in a rookie at 7 and 3 or 7 and 4….however, I can’t help but think that we have no chance to win playoff games much less the Superbowl with Jake…..does Cutler give us a chance? We don’t know.

But we haven’t seen him. (Preseason doesn’t count) But we have seen Jake. Maybe we’ve seen enough of him.

The question is…has Shanahan? My guess is that he has.

I really love this forum. Even when I disagree with some of you, it is awesome to live 1400 miles from home and get to talk Broncos. Have a great Thanksgiving!

Hope we win at KC….

Mitch

I laughed out loud at the suggestion that the fans are somehow responsible for Jake’s miserable performances this year. Yes, MISERABLE. If he were just mediocre, the Broncos would be leading the division.

We’re not just talking about fumbles and bad throws, either. We’re talking about blatantly STUPID throws, like throwing into double coverage on first down late in the fourth quarter. Throw it out of bounds and stop the clock? No, not Jake the Mistake. In ten years he’s never figured out that being a hero sometimes means NOT attempting impossible heroic feats.

The AFC Championship last season set the stage for Plummer’s 2006. I’ve seen enough. Put in the rookie.

Mitch

I laughed out loud at the suggestion that the fans are somehow responsible for Jake’s miserable performances this year. Yes, MISERABLE. If he were just mediocre, the Broncos would be leading the division.

We’re not just talking about fumbles and bad throws, either. We’re talking about blatantly STUPID throws, like throwing into double coverage on first down late in the fourth quarter. Throw it out of bounds and stop the clock? No, not Jake the Mistake. In ten years he’s never figured out that being a hero sometimes means NOT attempting impossible heroic feats.

The AFC Championship last season set the stage for Plummer’s 2006. I’ve seen enough. Put in the rookie.

Mitch

I laughed out loud at the suggestion that the fans are somehow responsible for Jake’s miserable performances this year. Yes, MISERABLE. If he were just mediocre, the Broncos would be leading the division.

We’re not just talking about fumbles and bad throws, either. We’re talking about blatantly STUPID throws, like throwing into double coverage on first down late in the fourth quarter. Throw it out of bounds and stop the clock? No, not Jake the Mistake. In ten years he’s never figured out that being a hero sometimes means NOT attempting impossible heroic feats.

The AFC Championship last season set the stage for Plummer’s 2006. I’ve seen enough. Put in the rookie.

JR

Plummer is a better QB than Dilfer when the Ravens won their superbowl and he’s better than Brad Johnson when the Bucs won theirs. He’s not Elway, who could elevate an entire team, but Plummer is good enough if the rest of the team does its job. The Chargers are simply a better team. Playing Cutler will be an admission that the season is over.

JR

Plummer is a better QB than Dilfer when the Ravens won their superbowl and he’s better than Brad Johnson when the Bucs won theirs. He’s not Elway, who could elevate an entire team, but Plummer is good enough if the rest of the team does its job. The Chargers are simply a better team. Playing Cutler will be an admission that the season is over.

JR

Plummer is a better QB than Dilfer when the Ravens won their superbowl and he’s better than Brad Johnson when the Bucs won theirs. He’s not Elway, who could elevate an entire team, but Plummer is good enough if the rest of the team does its job. The Chargers are simply a better team. Playing Cutler will be an admission that the season is over.

JR

Plummer is a better QB than Dilfer when the Ravens won their superbowl and he’s better than Brad Johnson when the Bucs won theirs. He’s not Elway, who could elevate an entire team, but Plummer is good enough if the rest of the team does its job. The Chargers are simply a better team. Playing Cutler will be an admission that the season is over.

Al H.

It was embarassing to watch Denver blow a 17 point lead against the Chargers. I live in San Diego now, but I’ll always be a Bronco fan. Jake is not the guy. Isn’t it obvious? And Mike, sometimes you’re too smart for your own good!

Al H.

It was embarassing to watch Denver blow a 17 point lead against the Chargers. I live in San Diego now, but I’ll always be a Bronco fan. Jake is not the guy. Isn’t it obvious? And Mike, sometimes you’re too smart for your own good!

Al H.

It was embarassing to watch Denver blow a 17 point lead against the Chargers. I live in San Diego now, but I’ll always be a Bronco fan. Jake is not the guy. Isn’t it obvious? And Mike, sometimes you’re too smart for your own good!

Al H.

It was embarassing to watch Denver blow a 17 point lead against the Chargers. I live in San Diego now, but I’ll always be a Bronco fan. Jake is not the guy. Isn’t it obvious? And Mike, sometimes you’re too smart for your own good!

extra point

I had lunch with a certain Bronco coach many years ago. I asked him why they kept Craig Morton around, when it was obvious they couldnt win a superbowl with him. The reply was that he was good enough to win enough games to keep the seats filled. Please dont let that be the case here. go for it. Put Cutler in!

extra point

I had lunch with a certain Bronco coach many years ago. I asked him why they kept Craig Morton around, when it was obvious they couldnt win a superbowl with him. The reply was that he was good enough to win enough games to keep the seats filled. Please dont let that be the case here. go for it. Put Cutler in!

extra point

I had lunch with a certain Bronco coach many years ago. I asked him why they kept Craig Morton around, when it was obvious they couldnt win a superbowl with him. The reply was that he was good enough to win enough games to keep the seats filled. Please dont let that be the case here. go for it. Put Cutler in!

CM

The next couple of game will determine who will finish the season at QB for the Broncs. They are still in the playoff hunt, and as long as that is the case, stay with the veteran. If that changes, the rookie should start learning the ropes for next year. Also, get a sports shrink to give Jake a hand. His terrible season could be improved with some help with his head. And Jake, when you are on the sports shows after the game, wear something other than an old flannel shirt. A hot QB in a flannel shirt is eccentric, a terrible QB in flannel looks like a bum.

CM

The next couple of game will determine who will finish the season at QB for the Broncs. They are still in the playoff hunt, and as long as that is the case, stay with the veteran. If that changes, the rookie should start learning the ropes for next year. Also, get a sports shrink to give Jake a hand. His terrible season could be improved with some help with his head. And Jake, when you are on the sports shows after the game, wear something other than an old flannel shirt. A hot QB in a flannel shirt is eccentric, a terrible QB in flannel looks like a bum.

CM

The next couple of game will determine who will finish the season at QB for the Broncs. They are still in the playoff hunt, and as long as that is the case, stay with the veteran. If that changes, the rookie should start learning the ropes for next year. Also, get a sports shrink to give Jake a hand. His terrible season could be improved with some help with his head. And Jake, when you are on the sports shows after the game, wear something other than an old flannel shirt. A hot QB in a flannel shirt is eccentric, a terrible QB in flannel looks like a bum.

CM

The next couple of game will determine who will finish the season at QB for the Broncs. They are still in the playoff hunt, and as long as that is the case, stay with the veteran. If that changes, the rookie should start learning the ropes for next year. Also, get a sports shrink to give Jake a hand. His terrible season could be improved with some help with his head. And Jake, when you are on the sports shows after the game, wear something other than an old flannel shirt. A hot QB in a flannel shirt is eccentric, a terrible QB in flannel looks like a bum.

SoTXBroncoFan

OK. To those that fault the defense, you are partly correct. Yes, the defense has been exposed and scored upon aplenty against both the Colts and Bolts.

But, to that, I say, we need to first place blame on Coyer and his zone coverage schemes. When blitzing, it’s appropriate to play zone. However, this year we’ve reduced our blitzing dramatically, yet we still play the zone!?!? We are just leaving ourselves too exposed and, boy, are they!

My second point is that if we could just convert 3rd downs more effectively, we could provide our defense more rest leaving the opponents O on the sidelines. It will also provide more scoring opportunities for us. That’s if we don’t throw a pic or fumble the snap!!

By having Jake direct or mis-direct our offense, we’re going 3 & out at critical times and leaving our defense on the field way to long. We can not rely on Champ continually getting pics in the end zone!!

I said, say and say it again ‘Let’s’s bring in 6’ and jump start this offense. He just might convert a few more 3rd down situations and give us a chance. For me, I don’t favor the alternative. Let’s eat the rest of the $9 million contract and sit Jake NOW. I’ve seen enough!!!!!

SoTXBroncoFan

OK. To those that fault the defense, you are partly correct. Yes, the defense has been exposed and scored upon aplenty against both the Colts and Bolts.

But, to that, I say, we need to first place blame on Coyer and his zone coverage schemes. When blitzing, it’s appropriate to play zone. However, this year we’ve reduced our blitzing dramatically, yet we still play the zone!?!? We are just leaving ourselves too exposed and, boy, are they!

My second point is that if we could just convert 3rd downs more effectively, we could provide our defense more rest leaving the opponents O on the sidelines. It will also provide more scoring opportunities for us. That’s if we don’t throw a pic or fumble the snap!!

By having Jake direct or mis-direct our offense, we’re going 3 & out at critical times and leaving our defense on the field way to long. We can not rely on Champ continually getting pics in the end zone!!

I said, say and say it again ‘Let’s’s bring in 6’ and jump start this offense. He just might convert a few more 3rd down situations and give us a chance. For me, I don’t favor the alternative. Let’s eat the rest of the $9 million contract and sit Jake NOW. I’ve seen enough!!!!!

SoTXBroncoFan

OK. To those that fault the defense, you are partly correct. Yes, the defense has been exposed and scored upon aplenty against both the Colts and Bolts.

But, to that, I say, we need to first place blame on Coyer and his zone coverage schemes. When blitzing, it’s appropriate to play zone. However, this year we’ve reduced our blitzing dramatically, yet we still play the zone!?!? We are just leaving ourselves too exposed and, boy, are they!

My second point is that if we could just convert 3rd downs more effectively, we could provide our defense more rest leaving the opponents O on the sidelines. It will also provide more scoring opportunities for us. That’s if we don’t throw a pic or fumble the snap!!

By having Jake direct or mis-direct our offense, we’re going 3 & out at critical times and leaving our defense on the field way to long. We can not rely on Champ continually getting pics in the end zone!!

I said, say and say it again ‘Let’s’s bring in 6’ and jump start this offense. He just might convert a few more 3rd down situations and give us a chance. For me, I don’t favor the alternative. Let’s eat the rest of the $9 million contract and sit Jake NOW. I’ve seen enough!!!!!

josh

has anybody considered the fact that the denver D isn’t playing that well,is because the offence keeps going 3 and out way to many times.And yes this is a main reason wy jake needs to sit.

josh

has anybody considered the fact that the denver D isn’t playing that well,is because the offence keeps going 3 and out way to many times.And yes this is a main reason wy jake needs to sit.

josh

has anybody considered the fact that the denver D isn’t playing that well,is because the offence keeps going 3 and out way to many times.And yes this is a main reason wy jake needs to sit.

josh

has anybody considered the fact that the denver D isn’t playing that well,is because the offence keeps going 3 and out way to many times.And yes this is a main reason wy jake needs to sit.

kellway

The fans calling for Jakes head are as much to blame for his problems as Mike the “master mind” and his not so brilliant play calling this year. Get the play action, boot’s and the tight ends going and we would dominate again. shame on you Jake bashers shame on you Mr Mastermind .. Go Broncos

kellway

The fans calling for Jakes head are as much to blame for his problems as Mike the “master mind” and his not so brilliant play calling this year. Get the play action, boot’s and the tight ends going and we would dominate again. shame on you Jake bashers shame on you Mr Mastermind .. Go Broncos

kellway

The fans calling for Jakes head are as much to blame for his problems as Mike the “master mind” and his not so brilliant play calling this year. Get the play action, boot’s and the tight ends going and we would dominate again. shame on you Jake bashers shame on you Mr Mastermind .. Go Broncos

kellway

The fans calling for Jakes head are as much to blame for his problems as Mike the “master mind” and his not so brilliant play calling this year. Get the play action, boot’s and the tight ends going and we would dominate again. shame on you Jake bashers shame on you Mr Mastermind .. Go Broncos

Jim

Okay, sorry if this is well-known, I haven’t read all the comments. NFL.com just reported that the Cutler Era begins Dec. 3rd against the Seahawks. That’s Adam Schefter, too, who we all know and trust. It said that if Turkey-Day’s game was Sunday, Cutler would be starting.

Jim

Okay, sorry if this is well-known, I haven’t read all the comments. NFL.com just reported that the Cutler Era begins Dec. 3rd against the Seahawks. That’s Adam Schefter, too, who we all know and trust. It said that if Turkey-Day’s game was Sunday, Cutler would be starting.

Jim

Okay, sorry if this is well-known, I haven’t read all the comments. NFL.com just reported that the Cutler Era begins Dec. 3rd against the Seahawks. That’s Adam Schefter, too, who we all know and trust. It said that if Turkey-Day’s game was Sunday, Cutler would be starting.

Jim

Okay, sorry if this is well-known, I haven’t read all the comments. NFL.com just reported that the Cutler Era begins Dec. 3rd against the Seahawks. That’s Adam Schefter, too, who we all know and trust. It said that if Turkey-Day’s game was Sunday, Cutler would be starting.

wade swanton

dallas did it and jake is old. it’s time for new blood. if elam missed 10 field goals in a row from the 20 would he have a job? why are Q.B.’s the exception?

wade swanton

dallas did it and jake is old. it’s time for new blood. if elam missed 10 field goals in a row from the 20 would he have a job? why are Q.B.’s the exception?

wade swanton

dallas did it and jake is old. it’s time for new blood. if elam missed 10 field goals in a row from the 20 would he have a job? why are Q.B.’s the exception?

wade swanton

dallas did it and jake is old. it’s time for new blood. if elam missed 10 field goals in a row from the 20 would he have a job? why are Q.B.’s the exception?

40+ yr Bronco Fan

Jake doesn’t do all that bad when he can roll out. What’s with the coaches who leave him in the pocket no matter how bad things get? Small linemen and pass blocking is always a problem, so let him move already!

40+ yr Bronco Fan

Jake doesn’t do all that bad when he can roll out. What’s with the coaches who leave him in the pocket no matter how bad things get? Small linemen and pass blocking is always a problem, so let him move already!

40+ yr Bronco Fan

Jake doesn’t do all that bad when he can roll out. What’s with the coaches who leave him in the pocket no matter how bad things get? Small linemen and pass blocking is always a problem, so let him move already!

40+ yr Bronco Fan

Jake doesn’t do all that bad when he can roll out. What’s with the coaches who leave him in the pocket no matter how bad things get? Small linemen and pass blocking is always a problem, so let him move already!

Dalas

To the guy who had the nerve to state that Plummer’s ratings are better than Elway’s were, I hope that is not an attempt to compare the two. Let’s examine Plummer’s ratings if he happens to last, what, 14 years with the Broncos. To be as brilliant and for as long as Elway was brilliant is something Plummer will never do. Besides, Jake gets to play on a thoroughly talented football team coached by one of the best. Elway was the entire Bronco team for as many years as I remember watching. One man, Elway, had to carry the entire team. What he was able to accomplish, wins and records-wise, is incredible given the kind of talent he was playing with and for. Some have responded Shanahan is too predictable. Reeves was too predictable. It was throw, throw, run, throw and the entire NFL knew it. And remember when the Broncos’ idea of a running game was Sammy Winder? I am not saying that Plummer is the whole problem as anyone who has ever played a team sport knows it’s never all one person’s fault. The entire offense has looked weak, unexplosive, and tired this season. Thank God our defense has stepped it up and carried us most of the time. A quarterback must also be a leader, not just throw well. None of the guys had respect for Griese, that’s part of why he failed so badly. The team seems to be behind Plummer and support him, but he doesn’t seem to be able to inspire them and fire them up the way Big John could. Who knows if Cutler will be a better leader or not. I don’t think Plummer deserves all the blame, but there is no denying he has come up short in the big moments many times.

Dalas

To the guy who had the nerve to state that Plummer’s ratings are better than Elway’s were, I hope that is not an attempt to compare the two. Let’s examine Plummer’s ratings if he happens to last, what, 14 years with the Broncos. To be as brilliant and for as long as Elway was brilliant is something Plummer will never do. Besides, Jake gets to play on a thoroughly talented football team coached by one of the best. Elway was the entire Bronco team for as many years as I remember watching. One man, Elway, had to carry the entire team. What he was able to accomplish, wins and records-wise, is incredible given the kind of talent he was playing with and for. Some have responded Shanahan is too predictable. Reeves was too predictable. It was throw, throw, run, throw and the entire NFL knew it. And remember when the Broncos’ idea of a running game was Sammy Winder? I am not saying that Plummer is the whole problem as anyone who has ever played a team sport knows it’s never all one person’s fault. The entire offense has looked weak, unexplosive, and tired this season. Thank God our defense has stepped it up and carried us most of the time. A quarterback must also be a leader, not just throw well. None of the guys had respect for Griese, that’s part of why he failed so badly. The team seems to be behind Plummer and support him, but he doesn’t seem to be able to inspire them and fire them up the way Big John could. Who knows if Cutler will be a better leader or not. I don’t think Plummer deserves all the blame, but there is no denying he has come up short in the big moments many times.

Dalas

To the guy who had the nerve to state that Plummer’s ratings are better than Elway’s were, I hope that is not an attempt to compare the two. Let’s examine Plummer’s ratings if he happens to last, what, 14 years with the Broncos. To be as brilliant and for as long as Elway was brilliant is something Plummer will never do. Besides, Jake gets to play on a thoroughly talented football team coached by one of the best. Elway was the entire Bronco team for as many years as I remember watching. One man, Elway, had to carry the entire team. What he was able to accomplish, wins and records-wise, is incredible given the kind of talent he was playing with and for. Some have responded Shanahan is too predictable. Reeves was too predictable. It was throw, throw, run, throw and the entire NFL knew it. And remember when the Broncos’ idea of a running game was Sammy Winder? I am not saying that Plummer is the whole problem as anyone who has ever played a team sport knows it’s never all one person’s fault. The entire offense has looked weak, unexplosive, and tired this season. Thank God our defense has stepped it up and carried us most of the time. A quarterback must also be a leader, not just throw well. None of the guys had respect for Griese, that’s part of why he failed so badly. The team seems to be behind Plummer and support him, but he doesn’t seem to be able to inspire them and fire them up the way Big John could. Who knows if Cutler will be a better leader or not. I don’t think Plummer deserves all the blame, but there is no denying he has come up short in the big moments many times.

Dalas

To the guy who had the nerve to state that Plummer’s ratings are better than Elway’s were, I hope that is not an attempt to compare the two. Let’s examine Plummer’s ratings if he happens to last, what, 14 years with the Broncos. To be as brilliant and for as long as Elway was brilliant is something Plummer will never do. Besides, Jake gets to play on a thoroughly talented football team coached by one of the best. Elway was the entire Bronco team for as many years as I remember watching. One man, Elway, had to carry the entire team. What he was able to accomplish, wins and records-wise, is incredible given the kind of talent he was playing with and for. Some have responded Shanahan is too predictable. Reeves was too predictable. It was throw, throw, run, throw and the entire NFL knew it. And remember when the Broncos’ idea of a running game was Sammy Winder? I am not saying that Plummer is the whole problem as anyone who has ever played a team sport knows it’s never all one person’s fault. The entire offense has looked weak, unexplosive, and tired this season. Thank God our defense has stepped it up and carried us most of the time. A quarterback must also be a leader, not just throw well. None of the guys had respect for Griese, that’s part of why he failed so badly. The team seems to be behind Plummer and support him, but he doesn’t seem to be able to inspire them and fire them up the way Big John could. Who knows if Cutler will be a better leader or not. I don’t think Plummer deserves all the blame, but there is no denying he has come up short in the big moments many times.

Rahim Abdulla

We have time deffrent most of Boroncs game we wich @ 3am that means we get up form the bed and stay up all day and we would like to injoy our day we canot win the game with Jake we have good ofens good defens but good QB on line

Rahim Abdulla

We have time deffrent most of Boroncs game we wich @ 3am that means we get up form the bed and stay up all day and we would like to injoy our day we canot win the game with Jake we have good ofens good defens but good QB on line

Rahim Abdulla

We have time deffrent most of Boroncs game we wich @ 3am that means we get up form the bed and stay up all day and we would like to injoy our day we canot win the game with Jake we have good ofens good defens but good QB on line

Rahim Abdulla

We have time deffrent most of Boroncs game we wich @ 3am that means we get up form the bed and stay up all day and we would like to injoy our day we canot win the game with Jake we have good ofens good defens but good QB on line

Gary Rintel

Actually, Jay Cutler led a completely-SECOND-team offense against the Cards first-string defense (and did the same at times against Tennessee). Dennis Green kept his starters in on defense until the very end, as I recall. It was then that I really took notice of how efficient even the running game was behind Meadows, Pears, Cobbs and Nash. I rushed back from the Middle East so as not to miss taping and studying our exhibitions because they usually turn out to be much more relevant and prescient than those of other squads. This doesn’t prove that Cutler will be as effective as a young Marino or Roethlisberger. But even against the Cards perennially-lame defense, you could see the kid had that something special that hasn’t been seen in a rookie Broncos QB since 1983 (laser-beam arm, savvy mobility and Andre Miller-type, ice-in-his-veins). I agree with Shanahan’s likely-decision to start Cutler in the Seattle game. But perhaps this decision wouldn’t have been on the precipice if Jake had dispensed with that stupid left-handed glove (which led to the fumbled shotgun snap and the fg instead of possibly a TD). Instead of throwing the glove away, Jake and the Off. Coordinator made things worse by thereafter abandoning shot-gun formation (like they abandoned throwing to the TE’s) when the added seconds and downfield vision it can provide were needed most (Shaun Phillips from the backside anyone?) That, and Larry Coyer’s predictably-passive, cover-two’s and poorly-timed zone blitzes (Greg Robinson-redux) are just driving me nuts. Shanahan’s a great coach who’s right about 85% of the time on every-kind of personnel or game-calling decisions. But he’s the ultimately-responsible “decider” on both side’s of the ball and we can no longer get away with him telling the Robinson-Rhodes-Coyer triumvirate to “do what you normally do,” in the unreliabe hope that we can always outscore the opponent. This isn’t the Super Bowl Broncos with All-Pro talent at all but one offensive position (Habib). If he’s philosophically opposed to a huge run-stuffer like Jamal Williams at DT, fine. Keep the more-mobile Veal, Myers and Warren. But we need to use these extra-picks in the next draft (and probably trade Foster & Plummer for more choices)so we can finally acquire a mid-first-round solid, blue-chip DE like Charles Grant plus a mid-round effort guy like we should’ve nabbed in Mark Anderson from ‘Bama.(instead of KR Domenik Hixon). Consistent contenders like Bellichek, Parcells and the Panthers and Bears know you can never have too many first-round, stud defensive linemen due to the “multiplier effect.” But hindsight’s 20-20 and we gotta give “the mastermind” a pass on, at least, the most-recent draft, due to his– impossible to remember– series of moves to steal Cutler and Walker in rounds one and two. Sorry for rambling on, but the whole season’s gonna be decided this month and I’m getting pretty nervous.

Gary Rintel

Actually, Jay Cutler led a completely-SECOND-team offense against the Cards first-string defense (and did the same at times against Tennessee). Dennis Green kept his starters in on defense until the very end, as I recall. It was then that I really took notice of how efficient even the running game was behind Meadows, Pears, Cobbs and Nash. I rushed back from the Middle East so as not to miss taping and studying our exhibitions because they usually turn out to be much more relevant and prescient than those of other squads. This doesn’t prove that Cutler will be as effective as a young Marino or Roethlisberger. But even against the Cards perennially-lame defense, you could see the kid had that something special that hasn’t been seen in a rookie Broncos QB since 1983 (laser-beam arm, savvy mobility and Andre Miller-type, ice-in-his-veins). I agree with Shanahan’s likely-decision to start Cutler in the Seattle game. But perhaps this decision wouldn’t have been on the precipice if Jake had dispensed with that stupid left-handed glove (which led to the fumbled shotgun snap and the fg instead of possibly a TD). Instead of throwing the glove away, Jake and the Off. Coordinator made things worse by thereafter abandoning shot-gun formation (like they abandoned throwing to the TE’s) when the added seconds and downfield vision it can provide were needed most (Shaun Phillips from the backside anyone?) That, and Larry Coyer’s predictably-passive, cover-two’s and poorly-timed zone blitzes (Greg Robinson-redux) are just driving me nuts. Shanahan’s a great coach who’s right about 85% of the time on every-kind of personnel or game-calling decisions. But he’s the ultimately-responsible “decider” on both side’s of the ball and we can no longer get away with him telling the Robinson-Rhodes-Coyer triumvirate to “do what you normally do,” in the unreliabe hope that we can always outscore the opponent. This isn’t the Super Bowl Broncos with All-Pro talent at all but one offensive position (Habib). If he’s philosophically opposed to a huge run-stuffer like Jamal Williams at DT, fine. Keep the more-mobile Veal, Myers and Warren. But we need to use these extra-picks in the next draft (and probably trade Foster & Plummer for more choices)so we can finally acquire a mid-first-round solid, blue-chip DE like Charles Grant plus a mid-round effort guy like we should’ve nabbed in Mark Anderson from ‘Bama.(instead of KR Domenik Hixon). Consistent contenders like Bellichek, Parcells and the Panthers and Bears know you can never have too many first-round, stud defensive linemen due to the “multiplier effect.” But hindsight’s 20-20 and we gotta give “the mastermind” a pass on, at least, the most-recent draft, due to his– impossible to remember– series of moves to steal Cutler and Walker in rounds one and two. Sorry for rambling on, but the whole season’s gonna be decided this month and I’m getting pretty nervous.

Gary Rintel

Actually, Jay Cutler led a completely-SECOND-team offense against the Cards first-string defense (and did the same at times against Tennessee). Dennis Green kept his starters in on defense until the very end, as I recall. It was then that I really took notice of how efficient even the running game was behind Meadows, Pears, Cobbs and Nash. I rushed back from the Middle East so as not to miss taping and studying our exhibitions because they usually turn out to be much more relevant and prescient than those of other squads. This doesn’t prove that Cutler will be as effective as a young Marino or Roethlisberger. But even against the Cards perennially-lame defense, you could see the kid had that something special that hasn’t been seen in a rookie Broncos QB since 1983 (laser-beam arm, savvy mobility and Andre Miller-type, ice-in-his-veins). I agree with Shanahan’s likely-decision to start Cutler in the Seattle game. But perhaps this decision wouldn’t have been on the precipice if Jake had dispensed with that stupid left-handed glove (which led to the fumbled shotgun snap and the fg instead of possibly a TD). Instead of throwing the glove away, Jake and the Off. Coordinator made things worse by thereafter abandoning shot-gun formation (like they abandoned throwing to the TE’s) when the added seconds and downfield vision it can provide were needed most (Shaun Phillips from the backside anyone?) That, and Larry Coyer’s predictably-passive, cover-two’s and poorly-timed zone blitzes (Greg Robinson-redux) are just driving me nuts. Shanahan’s a great coach who’s right about 85% of the time on every-kind of personnel or game-calling decisions. But he’s the ultimately-responsible “decider” on both side’s of the ball and we can no longer get away with him telling the Robinson-Rhodes-Coyer triumvirate to “do what you normally do,” in the unreliabe hope that we can always outscore the opponent. This isn’t the Super Bowl Broncos with All-Pro talent at all but one offensive position (Habib). If he’s philosophically opposed to a huge run-stuffer like Jamal Williams at DT, fine. Keep the more-mobile Veal, Myers and Warren. But we need to use these extra-picks in the next draft (and probably trade Foster & Plummer for more choices)so we can finally acquire a mid-first-round solid, blue-chip DE like Charles Grant plus a mid-round effort guy like we should’ve nabbed in Mark Anderson from ‘Bama.(instead of KR Domenik Hixon). Consistent contenders like Bellichek, Parcells and the Panthers and Bears know you can never have too many first-round, stud defensive linemen due to the “multiplier effect.” But hindsight’s 20-20 and we gotta give “the mastermind” a pass on, at least, the most-recent draft, due to his– impossible to remember– series of moves to steal Cutler and Walker in rounds one and two. Sorry for rambling on, but the whole season’s gonna be decided this month and I’m getting pretty nervous.

Gary Rintel

Actually, Jay Cutler led a completely-SECOND-team offense against the Cards first-string defense (and did the same at times against Tennessee). Dennis Green kept his starters in on defense until the very end, as I recall. It was then that I really took notice of how efficient even the running game was behind Meadows, Pears, Cobbs and Nash. I rushed back from the Middle East so as not to miss taping and studying our exhibitions because they usually turn out to be much more relevant and prescient than those of other squads. This doesn’t prove that Cutler will be as effective as a young Marino or Roethlisberger. But even against the Cards perennially-lame defense, you could see the kid had that something special that hasn’t been seen in a rookie Broncos QB since 1983 (laser-beam arm, savvy mobility and Andre Miller-type, ice-in-his-veins). I agree with Shanahan’s likely-decision to start Cutler in the Seattle game. But perhaps this decision wouldn’t have been on the precipice if Jake had dispensed with that stupid left-handed glove (which led to the fumbled shotgun snap and the fg instead of possibly a TD). Instead of throwing the glove away, Jake and the Off. Coordinator made things worse by thereafter abandoning shot-gun formation (like they abandoned throwing to the TE’s) when the added seconds and downfield vision it can provide were needed most (Shaun Phillips from the backside anyone?) That, and Larry Coyer’s predictably-passive, cover-two’s and poorly-timed zone blitzes (Greg Robinson-redux) are just driving me nuts. Shanahan’s a great coach who’s right about 85% of the time on every-kind of personnel or game-calling decisions. But he’s the ultimately-responsible “decider” on both side’s of the ball and we can no longer get away with him telling the Robinson-Rhodes-Coyer triumvirate to “do what you normally do,” in the unreliabe hope that we can always outscore the opponent. This isn’t the Super Bowl Broncos with All-Pro talent at all but one offensive position (Habib). If he’s philosophically opposed to a huge run-stuffer like Jamal Williams at DT, fine. Keep the more-mobile Veal, Myers and Warren. But we need to use these extra-picks in the next draft (and probably trade Foster & Plummer for more choices)so we can finally acquire a mid-first-round solid, blue-chip DE like Charles Grant plus a mid-round effort guy like we should’ve nabbed in Mark Anderson from ‘Bama.(instead of KR Domenik Hixon). Consistent contenders like Bellichek, Parcells and the Panthers and Bears know you can never have too many first-round, stud defensive linemen due to the “multiplier effect.” But hindsight’s 20-20 and we gotta give “the mastermind” a pass on, at least, the most-recent draft, due to his– impossible to remember– series of moves to steal Cutler and Walker in rounds one and two. Sorry for rambling on, but the whole season’s gonna be decided this month and I’m getting pretty nervous.

Jack

Put in Cutler

Jack

Put in Cutler

Jack

Put in Cutler

Jack

Put in Cutler

Jason

Reply to Jim: The artical said that the Cutler era COULD begin Dec. 3RD IF JAKE STRUGLES. That was also said befor the INDY and Steelers game. Jake played well in both games. The artical said “A source close to the situation”. I belive that this is being done to motivate Jake.

Jason

Reply to Jim: The artical said that the Cutler era COULD begin Dec. 3RD IF JAKE STRUGLES. That was also said befor the INDY and Steelers game. Jake played well in both games. The artical said “A source close to the situation”. I belive that this is being done to motivate Jake.

Jason

Reply to Jim: The artical said that the Cutler era COULD begin Dec. 3RD IF JAKE STRUGLES. That was also said befor the INDY and Steelers game. Jake played well in both games. The artical said “A source close to the situation”. I belive that this is being done to motivate Jake.

Jason

Reply to Jim: The artical said that the Cutler era COULD begin Dec. 3RD IF JAKE STRUGLES. That was also said befor the INDY and Steelers game. Jake played well in both games. The artical said “A source close to the situation”. I belive that this is being done to motivate Jake.

Jake Plummer is not the leader of the Bronco; he makes to many mental mistakes, so are the offensive linemen. The play calls from the coaches are solid but Jake seems to have a problem executing them. The defensive pass rush did not disrupt the Colts nor the Chargers; there is no aggressiveness to collapse the pocket.

The future is Jay Cutler now. If I were Mr. Bowen the money man, this will ignite the Bronco Nation fans from a marketing point of view. The fans will cheer and conversation will be generating in the cash register for Bowen pocket. He will demand a price increase for the ticket sales next year and continue to grow his residual in his family equity.

There are others that have argue that Jay Cutler is not ready. I remember once they spoke about John Elway in the same manner. The coaches believe he cannot read the complicated NFL defenses. John Elway went to Stanford and Jay Cutler went to Vanderbilt. These are not small time college. The NFL have evolved so have the college players. I have often heard that Jay needs to sit out a year before he could learn Shanahanâ€™s offenses play book. I believe his intelligence and private tutoring from the Man will shorten that by half a season.

If we are lucky to be in the playoff this season; Jake is not the one to lead us there and win the Big One. Jay is the future and let him have some fun.

Jake Plummer is not the leader of the Bronco; he makes to many mental mistakes, so are the offensive linemen. The play calls from the coaches are solid but Jake seems to have a problem executing them. The defensive pass rush did not disrupt the Colts nor the Chargers; there is no aggressiveness to collapse the pocket.

The future is Jay Cutler now. If I were Mr. Bowen the money man, this will ignite the Bronco Nation fans from a marketing point of view. The fans will cheer and conversation will be generating in the cash register for Bowen pocket. He will demand a price increase for the ticket sales next year and continue to grow his residual in his family equity.

There are others that have argue that Jay Cutler is not ready. I remember once they spoke about John Elway in the same manner. The coaches believe he cannot read the complicated NFL defenses. John Elway went to Stanford and Jay Cutler went to Vanderbilt. These are not small time college. The NFL have evolved so have the college players. I have often heard that Jay needs to sit out a year before he could learn Shanahanâ€™s offenses play book. I believe his intelligence and private tutoring from the Man will shorten that by half a season.

If we are lucky to be in the playoff this season; Jake is not the one to lead us there and win the Big One. Jay is the future and let him have some fun.

Jake Plummer is not the leader of the Bronco; he makes to many mental mistakes, so are the offensive linemen. The play calls from the coaches are solid but Jake seems to have a problem executing them. The defensive pass rush did not disrupt the Colts nor the Chargers; there is no aggressiveness to collapse the pocket.

The future is Jay Cutler now. If I were Mr. Bowen the money man, this will ignite the Bronco Nation fans from a marketing point of view. The fans will cheer and conversation will be generating in the cash register for Bowen pocket. He will demand a price increase for the ticket sales next year and continue to grow his residual in his family equity.

There are others that have argue that Jay Cutler is not ready. I remember once they spoke about John Elway in the same manner. The coaches believe he cannot read the complicated NFL defenses. John Elway went to Stanford and Jay Cutler went to Vanderbilt. These are not small time college. The NFL have evolved so have the college players. I have often heard that Jay needs to sit out a year before he could learn Shanahanâ€™s offenses play book. I believe his intelligence and private tutoring from the Man will shorten that by half a season.

If we are lucky to be in the playoff this season; Jake is not the one to lead us there and win the Big One. Jay is the future and let him have some fun.

Jake Plummer is not the leader of the Bronco; he makes to many mental mistakes, so are the offensive linemen. The play calls from the coaches are solid but Jake seems to have a problem executing them. The defensive pass rush did not disrupt the Colts nor the Chargers; there is no aggressiveness to collapse the pocket.

The future is Jay Cutler now. If I were Mr. Bowen the money man, this will ignite the Bronco Nation fans from a marketing point of view. The fans will cheer and conversation will be generating in the cash register for Bowen pocket. He will demand a price increase for the ticket sales next year and continue to grow his residual in his family equity.

There are others that have argue that Jay Cutler is not ready. I remember once they spoke about John Elway in the same manner. The coaches believe he cannot read the complicated NFL defenses. John Elway went to Stanford and Jay Cutler went to Vanderbilt. These are not small time college. The NFL have evolved so have the college players. I have often heard that Jay needs to sit out a year before he could learn Shanahanâ€™s offenses play book. I believe his intelligence and private tutoring from the Man will shorten that by half a season.

If we are lucky to be in the playoff this season; Jake is not the one to lead us there and win the Big One. Jay is the future and let him have some fun.

Hank the hammer

John Turlenton

Jake is 29th in passer rating. That puts “the fake” behind NFL immortals such as Bruce Gradkowski, Charlie Frye, and Seneca Wallace. It is not possible for a quarterback to play much worse. Opponents know he can’t throw in the pocket and have figured out how to make him. If Bruce Flipping Gradkowski can be more productive than Plummer, then why can’t Cutler? “Fake” can’t read defenses and can not consistantly make accurate throws. And even if Cutler does struggle, he’ll still put up the same numbers as Fake and at least the Broncos would be building towards something. It’s time to pull the plug and see what the rookie can do! Say it with me now,Cut-ler Cut-ler Cut-ler Cut-ler Cut-ler Cut-ler

John Turlenton

Jake is 29th in passer rating. That puts “the fake” behind NFL immortals such as Bruce Gradkowski, Charlie Frye, and Seneca Wallace. It is not possible for a quarterback to play much worse. Opponents know he can’t throw in the pocket and have figured out how to make him. If Bruce Flipping Gradkowski can be more productive than Plummer, then why can’t Cutler? “Fake” can’t read defenses and can not consistantly make accurate throws. And even if Cutler does struggle, he’ll still put up the same numbers as Fake and at least the Broncos would be building towards something. It’s time to pull the plug and see what the rookie can do! Say it with me now,Cut-ler Cut-ler Cut-ler Cut-ler Cut-ler Cut-ler

John Turlenton

Jake is 29th in passer rating. That puts “the fake” behind NFL immortals such as Bruce Gradkowski, Charlie Frye, and Seneca Wallace. It is not possible for a quarterback to play much worse. Opponents know he can’t throw in the pocket and have figured out how to make him. If Bruce Flipping Gradkowski can be more productive than Plummer, then why can’t Cutler? “Fake” can’t read defenses and can not consistantly make accurate throws. And even if Cutler does struggle, he’ll still put up the same numbers as Fake and at least the Broncos would be building towards something. It’s time to pull the plug and see what the rookie can do! Say it with me now,Cut-ler Cut-ler Cut-ler Cut-ler Cut-ler Cut-ler

John Turlenton

Jake is 29th in passer rating. That puts “the fake” behind NFL immortals such as Bruce Gradkowski, Charlie Frye, and Seneca Wallace. It is not possible for a quarterback to play much worse. Opponents know he can’t throw in the pocket and have figured out how to make him. If Bruce Flipping Gradkowski can be more productive than Plummer, then why can’t Cutler? “Fake” can’t read defenses and can not consistantly make accurate throws. And even if Cutler does struggle, he’ll still put up the same numbers as Fake and at least the Broncos would be building towards something. It’s time to pull the plug and see what the rookie can do! Say it with me now,Cut-ler Cut-ler Cut-ler Cut-ler Cut-ler Cut-ler

PA

Stick the fork in the turkey, Plummer is done.Jake doesn’t have the physical skills or the mind-set of a champion. He will not lead this team to a Super Bowl victory. Pass the cranberry sauce and put kid Cutler in.

PA

Stick the fork in the turkey, Plummer is done.Jake doesn’t have the physical skills or the mind-set of a champion. He will not lead this team to a Super Bowl victory. Pass the cranberry sauce and put kid Cutler in.

PA

Stick the fork in the turkey, Plummer is done.Jake doesn’t have the physical skills or the mind-set of a champion. He will not lead this team to a Super Bowl victory. Pass the cranberry sauce and put kid Cutler in.

PA

Stick the fork in the turkey, Plummer is done.Jake doesn’t have the physical skills or the mind-set of a champion. He will not lead this team to a Super Bowl victory. Pass the cranberry sauce and put kid Cutler in.

Gary Granger

shannahan is trying to make something out of Jake Plummer that in fact Jake is not. Jake was never meant to be a drop back passer. Most of his success has been as a scrambling QB, a boot-leg passer and a play maker. Jake Plummer performs best when he is out of the pocket. His interception ratio is not indicitive of his passing. If the ball touches the receivers hands and it is then intercepted, Jake should not be charged with the interception. Let Jake do what he does best and then find out if he should be the starting QB. If not put in Jay Cutler.

Gary Granger

shannahan is trying to make something out of Jake Plummer that in fact Jake is not. Jake was never meant to be a drop back passer. Most of his success has been as a scrambling QB, a boot-leg passer and a play maker. Jake Plummer performs best when he is out of the pocket. His interception ratio is not indicitive of his passing. If the ball touches the receivers hands and it is then intercepted, Jake should not be charged with the interception. Let Jake do what he does best and then find out if he should be the starting QB. If not put in Jay Cutler.

Brandon

I never thought Jake would lead the Broncos to the bowl. But at the same time I dont thik he has to. They have plenty of talent to spread around…. especially on Defense (remember defense wins championships). Last week against the Chargers, he did not have a bad game. Yeah it could have been better. But it was the defense that gave up the game. We all have te remember his winning percentage is pretty dang good. I dont think Cutler is the answer… at least in the middle of the season.

Brandon – Brancos fan in San Diego

Brandon

I never thought Jake would lead the Broncos to the bowl. But at the same time I dont thik he has to. They have plenty of talent to spread around…. especially on Defense (remember defense wins championships). Last week against the Chargers, he did not have a bad game. Yeah it could have been better. But it was the defense that gave up the game. We all have te remember his winning percentage is pretty dang good. I dont think Cutler is the answer… at least in the middle of the season.

Brandon – Brancos fan in San Diego

Brandon

I never thought Jake would lead the Broncos to the bowl. But at the same time I dont thik he has to. They have plenty of talent to spread around…. especially on Defense (remember defense wins championships). Last week against the Chargers, he did not have a bad game. Yeah it could have been better. But it was the defense that gave up the game. We all have te remember his winning percentage is pretty dang good. I dont think Cutler is the answer… at least in the middle of the season.

Brandon – Brancos fan in San Diego

Brandon

I never thought Jake would lead the Broncos to the bowl. But at the same time I dont thik he has to. They have plenty of talent to spread around…. especially on Defense (remember defense wins championships). Last week against the Chargers, he did not have a bad game. Yeah it could have been better. But it was the defense that gave up the game. We all have te remember his winning percentage is pretty dang good. I dont think Cutler is the answer… at least in the middle of the season.

Brandon – Brancos fan in San Diego

SD Denver Fan

Hey comment # 20 and 18 DR. other rooting interest and Chuck the Farley, you guys need to get together and have a goof party. If you think the Steelers will win out the rest of this season you must be living in Leadville, the thin air is making you dumber than you already are. I know why you are defending Jake because he handed your crap Steelers a superbowl appearance last year, then the refs gave them the game. Chuck the you are the moron. Denvers D has been exposed against two teams, Indy and San Diego who happen to be the two best o in the league. The bottom line is all tree losses this year can be blamed on Jake the fake, not because he lost the games but because he did not win them when he had the opportunity to do so. That makes a good QB, not the stats the trust other players have in him and his ability to lead. Jake does not lead. The reason Jake had his best year last year was Kubiac. Kubiac was considered the best QB coach in the league. He was all over Jake and made him play his way for a year. Jake does not care anymore. Do you ever see him making check calls at the line ? No because he doesn’t care. He knows he is gone no matter what he does. The real Jake came out year before last, giving the bird to your own home fans on national TV, then this year road rage… what an idiot. Jake is a punk loser who at best should have been a backup QB out of college. That Charger game last week. The first two series were 3 and out. I saw Jake miss two or three three yard out passes with no pressure. I know Cutler can do better than that.

Why is Indy such a good team, not because they have a great D because they have a big threat QB and WR. Why is San Diego so good, not because of the D but a big threat QB and RB. We have the tools we just need to play them. Cutler does not need to be great, just good. Elway was not a master of one area, he was just good in all areas. That’s why we went to all those Super Bowls and lost. The QB can not do it all. Todays Bronco team has enough talent to beat Indy, San Diego, Chicago who ever, as long as they don’t beat themselves. Jakes is beating the Broncos……
Chuck it’s not just about stats and mistakes, it’s about having a professional in there that inspires his team to win it when it’s on the line.
WAKE UP, LOOK IN THE MIRROR YOU WILL SE THE REAL MORON.

SD Denver Fan

Hey comment # 20 and 18 DR. other rooting interest and Chuck the Farley, you guys need to get together and have a goof party. If you think the Steelers will win out the rest of this season you must be living in Leadville, the thin air is making you dumber than you already are. I know why you are defending Jake because he handed your crap Steelers a superbowl appearance last year, then the refs gave them the game. Chuck the you are the moron. Denvers D has been exposed against two teams, Indy and San Diego who happen to be the two best o in the league. The bottom line is all tree losses this year can be blamed on Jake the fake, not because he lost the games but because he did not win them when he had the opportunity to do so. That makes a good QB, not the stats the trust other players have in him and his ability to lead. Jake does not lead. The reason Jake had his best year last year was Kubiac. Kubiac was considered the best QB coach in the league. He was all over Jake and made him play his way for a year. Jake does not care anymore. Do you ever see him making check calls at the line ? No because he doesn’t care. He knows he is gone no matter what he does. The real Jake came out year before last, giving the bird to your own home fans on national TV, then this year road rage… what an idiot. Jake is a punk loser who at best should have been a backup QB out of college. That Charger game last week. The first two series were 3 and out. I saw Jake miss two or three three yard out passes with no pressure. I know Cutler can do better than that.

Why is Indy such a good team, not because they have a great D because they have a big threat QB and WR. Why is San Diego so good, not because of the D but a big threat QB and RB. We have the tools we just need to play them. Cutler does not need to be great, just good. Elway was not a master of one area, he was just good in all areas. That’s why we went to all those Super Bowls and lost. The QB can not do it all. Todays Bronco team has enough talent to beat Indy, San Diego, Chicago who ever, as long as they don’t beat themselves. Jakes is beating the Broncos……
Chuck it’s not just about stats and mistakes, it’s about having a professional in there that inspires his team to win it when it’s on the line.
WAKE UP, LOOK IN THE MIRROR YOU WILL SE THE REAL MORON.

My oh My, there are certainly a lot of “fans” out there who would call for the beheading of Jake Plummer. They ignore the “Great Defense” that squandered a 17 point lead, and “Special” teams that are anything but. Suspect play calling.
These “fans” want Plummer out of town, which I’m sure he will be. They also view Jay Cutler as The Messiah, which he may well be. But to these “fans” I give two words – Ryan Leaf.

My oh My, there are certainly a lot of “fans” out there who would call for the beheading of Jake Plummer. They ignore the “Great Defense” that squandered a 17 point lead, and “Special” teams that are anything but. Suspect play calling.
These “fans” want Plummer out of town, which I’m sure he will be. They also view Jay Cutler as The Messiah, which he may well be. But to these “fans” I give two words – Ryan Leaf.

B

QB rating is the most unimportant stat in sports history. The formula is completely arbitrary. Plummer will never have a high QB rating, that’s not his game. He just wins. Isn’t the ultimate goal about wining. He lost in the AFC championship game to a much better team. Jake didn’t play bad when you watch film, he was nearly sacked on every play. The O line couldn’t protect him. Jake is still 7-4, has won at about a .700 percentage in Denver, and more 4th quarter comebacks than almost all QB’s to ever play the game. Jake threw for as many TD’s and yards in a season as did Elway. Who does Jake have to throw to. Javon Walker and Rod Smith. Rod ain’t what he used to me. Javon is doubled. No one creates separation, so how is Cutler going to throw a deep any better. Huge mistake to bench Jake. The regret will kick in a few weeks and ’cause ripples of deprression by mid season of the 2007-2008 when fans realize Cutler ain’t doing any better.

QB rating is the most unimportant stat in sports history. The formula is completely arbitrary. Plummer will never have a high QB rating, that’s not his game. He just wins. Isn’t the ultimate goal about wining. He lost in the AFC championship game to a much better team. Jake didn’t play bad when you watch film, he was nearly sacked on every play. The O line couldn’t protect him. Jake is still 7-4, has won at about a .700 percentage in Denver, and more 4th quarter comebacks than almost all QB’s to ever play the game. Jake threw for as many TD’s and yards in a season as did Elway. Who does Jake have to throw to. Javon Walker and Rod Smith. Rod ain’t what he used to me. Javon is doubled. No one creates separation, so how is Cutler going to throw a deep any better. Huge mistake to bench Jake. The regret will kick in a few weeks and ’cause ripples of deprression by mid season of the 2007-2008 when fans realize Cutler ain’t doing any better.

Nicki Jhabvala is a Broncos beat writer for The Denver Post. She was previously the digital news editor for sports. Before arriving in Denver, she spent five years at Sports Illustrated working primarily as its online NBA editor. She also spent two years as a home page editor at the New York Times.