Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who can watch the watchmen?"No one is paying attention to your post reports"Why do posters that claim to have me blocked keep sending me pms and responding to my posts? That makes no sense.

Conquer evil men by your gentle kindness, and make zealous men wonder at your goodness. Put the lover of legality to shame by your compassion. With the afflicted be afflicted in mind. Love all men, but keep distant from all men.—St. Isaac of Syria

"I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die [...] These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." -The Lord Jesus Christ

No longer active on OC.net. Please pray for me and forgive any harm I might have caused by my ignorance and malice.

Question a friend, perhaps he did not do it; but if he did anything so that he may do it no more.A hasty quarrel kindles fire,and urgent strife sheds blood.If you blow on a spark, it will glow;if you spit on it, it will be put out; and both come out of your mouth

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who can watch the watchmen?"No one is paying attention to your post reports"Why do posters that claim to have me blocked keep sending me pms and responding to my posts? That makes no sense.

"Hades is not a place, no, but a state of the soul. It begins here on earth. Just so, paradise begins in the soul of a man here in the earthly life. Here we already have contact with the divine..." -St. John, Wonderworker of Shanghai and San Francisco, Homily On the Sunday of Orthodoxy

(Sorry...I'm sad that there are no fellow Spanish-speaking believers here in New Mexico at my church, so I have to get it out somehow.)

JoeS2: It sounds like the "masinqo" Ethiopian one-stringed fiddle at the beginning of that video. How very interesting! Thanks for sharing.[/quote]

Interesting comment. One would think the opposite being that your state is a border state. Well, the church is in its infancy ministering to the Latin American populations. My concern is that the there is no recognition that there is a growing Spanish population, small that it be, in the Orthodox church. I was hoping to see more Spanish Orthodox publications and this hasnt happened as yet. Maybe someone should wake up the hierarchy to this fact before the non Catholic churches claim them first.

Well, there might be some in the Greek church here (I haven't been yet, so I don't know), but there are none in the Coptic church. There is only one Coptic church in all of Mexico, in Morelos, and I don't know how many people attend there. I have seen some videos of the church on Youtube, and it seems to be well-integrated into the society, with Spanish-language liturgy and a growing number of native converts. The Copts seem more successful in Bolivia, though, where several hundred native Bolivians attend at the cathedral of St. Mary and St. Mark in La Paz...no word on whether the liturgy is offered in Quechua or Aymara, though. One can hope.

I hear you, though...there is a LOT of proselytization by Protestants here (many of whom are Latino), and also by Islam. You can see their programs here on the local public access stations quite frequently. Whether we're Greek or Coptic or Anglo-American or whatever, we really need to get our act together when it comes to outreach to the wider communities we live in.

"For, by its immensity, the divine substance surpasses every form that our intellect reaches. Thus we are unable to apprehend it by knowing what it is. Yet we are able to have some knowledge of it by knowing what it is not." - St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa contra gentiles, I, 14.

"For, by its immensity, the divine substance surpasses every form that our intellect reaches. Thus we are unable to apprehend it by knowing what it is. Yet we are able to have some knowledge of it by knowing what it is not." - St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa contra gentiles, I, 14.

If this was directed at me, I'm just being inquisitive, not trying to imply that there is anything wrong with the Malankara practice.

Christos anesti!

Not directed at you at all. I just love the quote.

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"For, by its immensity, the divine substance surpasses every form that our intellect reaches. Thus we are unable to apprehend it by knowing what it is. Yet we are able to have some knowledge of it by knowing what it is not." - St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa contra gentiles, I, 14.