Tongue in cheek ways to value Apple's stock

With Apple's stock the center of attention this week, we have explained the different ways that professional traders try to determine the direction of Apple's stock. Fundamental analysts look at the nuts and bolts of a company's business, which in Apple's case is manufacturing devices like the Apple iPhone and the Apple iPad. We've talked about analysts studying the supply chain, and checking retail stores looking for an edge. We've also discussed the technicians who use charts to let the stock itself do the talking. This includes the Elliot Wave Theory, moving average breakouts, CANSLIM and Stage Analysis to name a few.

The jokers at The Joy of Tech have produced an infograph that covers a number of, well, let's just call them unorthodox methods of valuing a stock such as Voodoo, Tarot cards (check out the cards, they are a riot!). Whatever methodology of analysis you use, it was a tough week for Apple which closed Friday at $439.88.

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They wanted the war with Android and now they got it. Too bad they are losing it. I love googling aapl and seeing the steady decline since Cook started calling the shots. Also at their new stock price, they are no longer the "most valuable" company.

6.Hemlocke (unregistered)

You are funny.

Let's ask Motorola, HTC, and Google (Yes, Google) how that war is really going. Motorola is one step away from being worth less than a Starbuck's gift card, HTC is a rowboat with multiple leaks, and Google is now trying to wrest Android back from Samsung by stepping up the Nexus program. The only company really benefiting from Android is Samsung, and at the rate their brand recognition is growing, and the rate at which they are building their own ecosystem, it won't be long before they plop their TouchWiz skin on Tizen and head out on their own.

Why should I listen to someone that doesn't even know the history of HTC or Google??

Htc made the original nexus in 2010 and were very successful for several years. They have recently got in trouble financially. As of late they have dug their self out of a hole with the release of the Droid DNA and HTC 8X!!

Motorola has been in financial trouble for years. Google bought them for patents and patents only!! And as of late Google has been laying off more and more Motorola employees.

Dude? You actually read what I said? HTC made the original nexus? HTC made the G1 if you want to go somewhere, but that's not the point, HTC is not a well known brand.... It is known now because of android

Motorola was bought for patents yet Google keeps holding into it, they will work things out and you will see a much better Motorola on the future.... Nokia fired a lot of people, RIM fired a lot of people.... Apple itself had times where it fired a lot of people, things happen when a period of change comes...

What I meant is that a nexus means nothing, in fact the original nexus was not that successful. Yeah it was a good phone and all but every other nexus was more appealing to the consumer

HTC has some big issues

They refuse to simply their skin, not only their skin is full of hideous inconsistencies but they are the ones that go completely astray when it comes down to android design guidelines

They keep having the worse battery life of all android devices

They lack and actually good commercial campaign

what I meant with what I said that compared with the others HTC is the least known brand of all the android top dogs, and they make a lot of errors, making a nexus has no actual meaning because they built the first android device anyway... For Google it was the company to trust then they changed the way the nexus program works and have never chosen HTC ever again...

I'm right with you. My stock App points directly to Apple and this was the best week to see Apple suffer even with pretty good numbers. Tim Cook is a nobody and he is only good at modifying gadgets that Steve Jobs created.
This should shake Apples foundation and force them to release better product at competitive pricing. No one wants to buy over priced computers or stupid "S" models.

What??? Seriously dude, stop talking fanboy BS.
google stock is so over-valued it isn't funny. What we've seen over the last few months is nothing more than co-ordinated price manipulation between hedge funds, brokers, and media outlets. As usual the SEC has done squat to prevent it.

Something I don't think I've seen (then again, I admit to not really looking into it) is the volume of AAPL trading. The stock price has gotten a black eye, but is the volume of movement of APPL up? Down? Steady?

One of the biggest things to me about AAPL is that I think Apple has only paid out dividends twice in 18 years (IIRC). So, until you've sold your investment, you're not actually seeing any profit from it. Is it possible that there are people simply cashing out before the value dips below their initial investment, which then instigates others doing the same as the value slides lower? Cashing out is the only way to profit from APPL after all.

If that's the case then I'd expect the value to stabilize somewhere around the value where the majority of people paid for the stock. The people that bought in at the mid range and low range will hold on to it waiting for it to rise again as stocks tend to rise and fall. All the people dumping it now are probably those that bought in recently after the stock started skyrocketing not realizing it couldn't last forever, or didn't realize there were no dividends.

I think paying out dividends could increase the perceived value of the stock in people's minds.

All these over hype, denials, false and exaggerating testimonial regarding Apple products satisfactions which has been pushing the market up. Once truth set it, facts become apparent, alternatives becoming obvious, what else left? It is "dot com" bubble crash all over again.

5.Hemlocke (unregistered)

The fact is, AAPL is severely undervalued. With a P/E below 10 (Google's is a 23+, MSFT's is a 15, and Amazon's is 3,380) and good cash flow, this is nothing more than manipulation. The dot.com bubble was built on companies with no assets, no cash flow, and no prospects of either. Apple is the healthiest company on the planet.

I just think that the apple ahh-factor has lost its momentum. they're not changing anything major anymore. Just makign different sized iphones and calling it an ipad or ipod after they take away the phone ability. My personal opinion.

Why would you want Apple to fail??? They are a American company!! HTC, Samsung and LG are all foreign companies. A lot of people have lost touch!!

Competition is good for consumers like us. Drives technology through the roof and we as consumers will come out ahead.

Remember when the original iPhone came out. Every phone company wanted to come with some thing better than the iPhone. It set a standard for all phones.

Since then companies have actually caught up to the iPhone. It is apples turn to push the technology envelope a little further and it will be very interesting to see what happens over the next few months with all cell phone technology!!!

Apple is an American company....but it seems like Apple lives in its own lil world....

As for supporting American companies...some of the more reliable cars that arent expensive are Nissans and Toyotas. I support whats works well....not if it just American. I dont think I will ever get a Ford or Cadillac or Buick again.

I usually would support such a statement for helping the American company but c'mon, they won't pay factory workers in AMERICA to make the product ie overseas jobs. They hold most of their money outside of the US so they don't have to pay nearly as much taxes as they should... So why would we feel bad for helping a company that won't even help the country they are from?

Look up what your beloved company Google did with 10 Billion dollars before the first of the year. They moved that amount of money to an off shore account in the Cayman Islands. Why you ask, because they didn't want to pay taxes on it.

Every large company either does the same thing, moves to Mexico or overseas to avoid being taxed in America.

As for American made, look at Walmart for example!! 15 years ago Walmart flew flags on the outside of their stores that read "made in USA". Go to Walmart now and see if u can find any thing that is not made in china or overseas. Last I looked Walmart is still one of the largest companies in the world!!!

It may be an American company, but they don't pay taxes, they don't have any significant manufacturing here (ONE small mac line in the future is insignificant), and they don't employ that many American employees directly (most of their sales comes from third parties and online).
Were they to a) move ALL product lines back to the U.S. (or at least North America), b) stop their BS litigations, c) lower their products' prices by 25-50%, d) adopt universal standards instead of making their own proprietary crud, e) lose favor with the stupid hipster coffee-shop residents, I might start to be ambivalent about them rather than openly repulsed by and against them. Inused to like them l, pre-Windows 95, and owned quite a few.

Let's see if this can slide down to sub 300 level. Possible if vendors at Chinese assembly joints want 15% hike for not employing kids and be in profit ... foxcon already reported a loss i guess so not a good sign for those who use their services..

The major thing the iPhone 5 was missing compared to all the previous iPhone releases (I'm not talking hardware or software upgrades, if you can call them upgrades) is hype. Like that Samsung ad where everyone's standing outside speculating what's going to be included, everyone always got caught up in the secrecy and strategic press leaks that blew everything up in their minds to make Steve Jobs God, and apparently Apple Heaven. If SJ had introduced the iPhone 5, we wouldn't be having near as many complaints about it. He dodged AntennaGate, and would've done his "magic" on downplaying iPhone 5 problems to keep everyone upbeat about how "awesome" it is.

Tim Cook basically released all the information, had a lackluster unveil, and everyone's not entranced by the show now and are asking, "What the hell did we just spend our kid's college fund on?" Now that there's no ring-leader to direct the Apple cult's attention, all the fanboys are trying to take up the slack, and it's turning into chaos (e.g. some of the arguments that get started on these boards, for instance).

But stockholders are a part of this "cult" group as well. They're not entranced by the "new, larger screen" and "faster processor", etc., and even though it still may be an okay product, it doesn't have the OMFG luster it used to have.

To put it another way, I remember old Steve Martin standup routines where he's standing on stage with the fake arrow in his head. He talked and talked and talked, and the audience was very into the show and laughed at all the jokes. But when you really analyzed what he was saying, he didn't say one damn thing the whole show! He was just skilled enough to package everything to make it enjoyable, but the product he was giving out was just nonsense. That's the same effect I'm trying to say SJ had, but TC doesn't, and is what's responsible for the stock shake-up and unhappiness with them.

I don't think we're seeing the absolute "fall" of Apple, I just think it's returning from it's over-hyped, over-inflated ego and will rest among the sea of HTC, Motorola, Win8, Android, etc. They'll be a company that makes a solid product that has it's own apparent pros and cons, and won't be THE company with THE product that makes all other companies' attempts at competing with them futile, like it should've been from the get-go.

Well put, man. Apple without Jobs is akin to Venezuela without Chavez... After all, what is a dictatorship without its evil genious of a mastermind? The second best "Dear Leader" lacks all the enthusiasm and carisma.

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