I find it odd that the Mac updates are more than twice the size of the Windows one. I know we have two processor architectures to support, but that doesn't explain the extra size. Plus Windows QT implements non-native UI so it should be bigger than the Mac version.

I find it odd that the Mac updates are more than twice the size of the Windows one. I know we have two processor architectures to support, but that doesn't explain the extra size. Plus Windows QT implements non-native UI so it should be bigger than the Mac version.

There are four: 32-bit PPC, 64-bit PPC, 32-bit-Intel and 64-bit Intel. But that still doesn't account for the size.

Dick Applebaum on whether the iPad is a personal computer: "BTW, I am posting this from my iPad pc while sitting on the throne... personal enough for you?"

I just (1.5 hours ago) installed this update on my PB G4 12 and Intel Mini, both on Leopard. No probs with the PB but the Mini just hung after I clicked restart. For over an hour I just had my desktop, no menu bar or icons, and an arrow mouse cursor. I finally figured I'd restart as something was amiss (the PB G4 took <5 mins for the whole process). Now I just get a dos-like screen saying "no bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key." On inserting a boot disk and pressing any key I get bupkis, nada, nothing. Just that damn sentence staring back at me.

I just (1.5 hours ago) installed this update on my PB G4 12 and Intel Mini, both on Leopard. No probs with the PB but the Mini just hung after I clicked restart. For over an hour I just had my desktop, no menu bar or icons, and an arrow mouse cursor. I finally figured I'd restart as something was amiss (the PB G4 took <5 mins for the whole process). Now I just get a dos-like screen saying "no bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key." On inserting a boot disk and pressing any key I get bupkis, nada, nothing. Just that damn sentence staring back at me.

Hopefully my experience is isolated.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

Have you tried inserting the restore disc and holding down the 'C' key while restarting. If you can, enter Disk Utility from the Tools and verify the disk.

If not, I hope you are using Time Machine or some backup system.

Dick Applebaum on whether the iPad is a personal computer: "BTW, I am posting this from my iPad pc while sitting on the throne... personal enough for you?"

I just (1.5 hours ago) installed this update on my PB G4 12 and Intel Mini, both on Leopard. No probs with the PB but the Mini just hung after I clicked restart. For over an hour I just had my desktop, no menu bar or icons, and an arrow mouse cursor. I finally figured I'd restart as something was amiss (the PB G4 took <5 mins for the whole process). Now I just get a dos-like screen saying "no bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key." On inserting a boot disk and pressing any key I get bupkis, nada, nothing. Just that damn sentence staring back at me.

Have you tried inserting the restore disc and holding down the 'C' key while restarting. If you can, enter Disk Utility from the Tools and verify the disk.

If not, I hope you are using Time Machine or some backup system.

I did finally get to boot to cd holding down "c" on startup. I did not want to reinstall so I restarted with the 10.5.1 HD selected as startup. This time it did boot to the log in screen. I enter my password and get the setup utility (that thing that runs the first time you boot after install the first time), really odd! I quit the setup and it kicks me back to the login. So I enter all the stuff in set up thinking if I jump through its hoops I'll be OK. WRONG. After I go through all the setup assistant BS I get kicked back to the login screen again. Any thoughts?

I did finally get to boot to cd holding down "c" on startup. I did not want to reinstall so I restarted with the 10.5.1 HD selected as startup. This time it did boot to the log in screen. I enter my password and get the setup utility (that thing that runs the first time you boot after install the first time), really odd! I quit the setup and it kicks me back to the login. So I enter all the stuff in set up thinking if I jump through its hoops I'll be OK. WRONG. After I go through all the setup assistant BS I get kicked back to the login screen again. Any thoughts?

The Setup Assistance is just a simple yes/noor thereaboutstoggle in a text file.

If the hint above doesn't work put in you System Disk, hold down the 'C'. When it asks you to choose a langauge choose the appropriate one. This will not erase or install anything at this point. You will now have a Menu Bar. Choose Disk Utility from Tools and Verify the Disk. If the Verification fails then Reair. Also repair the Permissions while you are there (that isn't your problem, but they might be wonky).

Dick Applebaum on whether the iPad is a personal computer: "BTW, I am posting this from my iPad pc while sitting on the throne... personal enough for you?"

I did finally get to boot to cd holding down "c" on startup. I did not want to reinstall so I restarted with the 10.5.1 HD selected as startup. This time it did boot to the log in screen. I enter my password and get the setup utility (that thing that runs the first time you boot after install the first time), really odd! I quit the setup and it kicks me back to the login. So I enter all the stuff in set up thinking if I jump through its hoops I'll be OK. WRONG. After I go through all the setup assistant BS I get kicked back to the login screen again. Any thoughts?

Weirdest thing happened... After going through the endless loop of quitting the setup assistant a few times. I went back to the login screen and clicked shut down to deal with the broken computer tomorrow. As soon as I clicked shut down the "Installing Software" window pops up and the QT update runs through and the computer shuts down. Upon restart everything is OK. While all my stuff is backed up it is a huge relief to not have to go through the install process.

Weirdest thing happened... After going through the endless loop of quitting the setup assistant a few times. I went back to the login screen and clicked shut down to deal with the broken computer tomorrow. As soon as I clicked shut down the "Installing Software" window pops up and the QT update runs through and the computer shuts down. Upon restart everything is OK. While all my stuff is backed up it is a huge relief to not have to go through the install process.

Thanks for the suggestions.

-Jon

That sounds like step two of the hint I posted from Apple.

So far, I'm liking this new installation process with Leopard.

Dick Applebaum on whether the iPad is a personal computer: "BTW, I am posting this from my iPad pc while sitting on the throne... personal enough for you?"