An excuse? He had surgery and missed most of the season Chris Paul didn't have surgery w

If you can't be playoff ready after playing 35 regular season games post surgery then he's not doing something right. We are talking about 2-3 months and he's getting the injury card pulled just because in 2011 he dominated in the playoffs? A HUGE part of Zbo's struggles in the playoffs was Reggie Evans who literally tore him a new asshole every time down the floor defensively. Zach was getting pushed out of the paint and forced to shoot a bunch of 18 footers.

In usual fashion though rather than crediting the winning team (very shorthanded one at that) we make excuses for the losing team. Like I said in the other thread why are we going to talk about Zach being less than 100 percent when he played 2-3 months before the playoffs, yet disregard the Clippers 5 best players having fresh injuries?

Caron had a broken hand, BG had a torn meniscus and hyper-extended knee, CP3 had a bad groin pull, Mo Williams had a shooting hand injury and Billups was obviously out. Every team is banged up come playoff time but no other team had their 5 best players injured like that.

CP3's groin pull was actually the injury that kept him out the last two games of the regular season and it was re-injured. I've had a couple groin pulls during games and as a PG you can't do SH**. Can't move laterally without a great deal of pain, can't cut, can't jump. Hell he deserves respect just for at least playing through it for the rest of the playoffs.

Up until game 4 where CP3 re-injured it he was putting up a crazy 23.5 ppg, 11 apg, 5 rpg and nearly 3 spg vs the Grizzlies and looked like the best player in the playoffs. No coincidence that immediately following the injury his production plummeted starting with game 5 vs the Grizzlies, continuing through the Spurs series.

If you can't be playoff ready after playing 35 regular season games post surgery then he's not doing something right. We are talking about 2-3 months and he's getting the injury card pulled just because in 2011 he dominated in the playoffs? A HUGE part of Zbo's struggles in the playoffs was Reggie Evans who literally tore him a new asshole every time down the floor defensively. Zach was getting pushed out of the paint and forced to shoot a bunch of 18 footers.

In usual fashion though rather than crediting the winning team (very shorthanded one at that) we make excuses for the losing team. Like I said in the other thread why are we going to talk about Zach being less than 100 percent when he played 2-3 months before the playoffs, yet disregard the Clippers 5 best players having fresh injuries?

Caron had a broken hand, BG had a torn meniscus and hyper-extended knee, CP3 had a bad groin pull, Mo Williams had a shooting hand injury and Billups was obviously out. Every team is banged up come playoff time but no other team had their 5 best players injured like that.

CP3's groin pull was actually the injury that kept him out the last two games of the regular season and it was re-injured. I've had a couple groin pulls during games and as a PG you can't do SH**. Can't move laterally without a great deal of pain, can't cut, can't jump. Hell he deserves respect just for at least playing through it for the rest of the playoffs.

Up until game 4 where CP3 re-injured it he was putting up a crazy 23.5 ppg, 11 apg, 5 rpg and nearly 3 spg vs the Grizzlies and looked like the best player in the playoffs. No coincidence that immediately following the injury his production plummeted starting with game 5 vs the Grizzlies, continuing through the Spurs series.

Okay so let me get this straight, injuries that require surgeries are irrelevant and injuries that dont require surgery are relevant. Good argument we will see when the playoffs start who will win.

If you can't be playoff ready after playing 35 regular season games post surgery then he's not doing something right. We are talking about 2-3 months and he's getting the injury card pulled just because in 2011 he dominated in the playoffs? A HUGE part of Zbo's struggles in the playoffs was Reggie Evans who literally tore him a new asshole every time down the floor defensively. Zach was getting pushed out of the paint and forced to shoot a bunch of 18 footers.

In usual fashion though rather than crediting the winning team (very shorthanded one at that) we make excuses for the losing team. Like I said in the other thread why are we going to talk about Zach being less than 100 percent when he played 2-3 months before the playoffs, yet disregard the Clippers 5 best players having fresh injuries?

Caron had a broken hand, BG had a torn meniscus and hyper-extended knee, CP3 had a bad groin pull, Mo Williams had a shooting hand injury and Billups was obviously out. Every team is banged up come playoff time but no other team had their 5 best players injured like that.

CP3's groin pull was actually the injury that kept him out the last two games of the regular season and it was re-injured. I've had a couple groin pulls during games and as a PG you can't do SH**. Can't move laterally without a great deal of pain, can't cut, can't jump. Hell he deserves respect just for at least playing through it for the rest of the playoffs.

Up until game 4 where CP3 re-injured it he was putting up a crazy 23.5 ppg, 11 apg, 5 rpg and nearly 3 spg vs the Grizzlies and looked like the best player in the playoffs. No coincidence that immediately following the injury his production plummeted starting with game 5 vs the Grizzlies, continuing through the Spurs series.

Why do the Clippers injuries count, but not Randolph's injury? I don't have a side in this debate. I like to watch both teams play when Miami isn't on.

Okay so let me get this straight, injuries that require surgeries are irrelevant and injuries that dont require surgery are relevant. Good argument we will see when the playoffs start who will win.

Not saying it's irrelevant. If he's cleared 100 percent for play though and it's 2-3 months later of playing you don't think he's pretty healthy at that point? I've already said maybe Zach was 85 percent let's say. Even then outside of Zach and Arthur the Grizzlies were healthy. I'd take the Grizzlies situation of mostly healthy best player and solid role player being out vs what the Clippers had to deal with.

BTW both Butler and Griffin got surgery after the playoffs and Billups was already out with a torn Achilles as I said.

You do realize the grizzlies are deeper now and the grizzlies didnt have darrell arthur their best pick n roll defender, and the second best player in the playoffs the year before Z-bo was playing on 1 leg off surgery he said it was hard to get up and down the court.

Not saying it's irrelevant. If he's cleared 100 percent for play though and it's 2-3 months later of playing you don't think he's pretty healthy at that point? I've already said maybe Zach was 85 percent let's say. Even then outside of Zach and Arthur the Grizzlies were healthy. I'd take the Grizzlies situation of mostly healthy best player and solid role player being out vs what the Clippers had to deal with.

BTW both Butler and Griffin got surgery after the playoffs and Billups was already out with a torn Achilles as I said.

Its funny how when they were down in the series how negative you were toward your own team and even this year when they lost you said cp3 was done etc. When they are winning you use irrational arguments to defend them, injuries injuries involving surgery to what would be the 2nd best player on the clippers if z-bo was heatlhy

Come on. The Clippers are better. They can play slow or fast ball. They capitalized on turnovers. Too many weapons too much versatility. They beat the Grisslies banged up with 5-6 guys not in full strength. The Grisslies were out there intentionally trying to hurt Clipper players, because they couldn't beat them straight up.

Clippers bench would dominate them also imo. Bledsoe would shit on Bayless all series long. Ellington and Pondexter are just streaky shooters, what happens if they cant find their shot? Who can contribute off their bench other than them?

You do realize the grizzlies are deeper now and the grizzlies didnt have darrell arthur their best pick n roll defender, and the second best player in the playoffs the year before Z-bo was playing on 1 leg off surgery he said it was hard to get up and down the court.

Again with the one leg excuse.. Wow, does everyone playing the Clippers have one leg? I'm so unobservant, I don't notice these things. You think I'd notice someone hopping around instead of running!