How To Ignore Her To Get Her Attention

ByJesse Charger

You can ignore a hot girl to get her attention! Here’s how-

When approaching a group of women, men do the mirror-opposite of what actually works.

Here’s what most guys do: they see a hot girl in a group of women and approach her. They pay all of their attention to the hot girl and generally ignore all of her less attractive friends. BAD strategy.

Instead of approaching the hot girl and ignoring her friends, you need to approach all of her friends and ignore the hot girl.

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In other words, you open the entire group of friends and tell them a story or show them something (and no, not that something down there) that they’ll think is cool. You want all the girls of the group to like you while you ignore the hot girl. This makes you look like a confident, cocky guy with a lot of status while it simultaneously lowers the status of the hot girl. And your chances with her will be MUCH higher. In fact, if you do it well, it will make the hot girl of the group chase YOU.

After all, building social value for oneself is only half of the equation. For while you want to BUILD your own social value, you can simultaneously work to LOWER hers.

While your social value moves up, her social value can also move down.

In mathematics, this is called an inverse relationship, in which when one variable increases, the other rises.

The easiest and simplest way to lower a woman’s value is to simply IGNORE her. Ignoring a woman has a deep psychological impact on her.

It’s a universal human trait to hate being ignored – especially by others with perceived authority and social value.

Children who are routinely ignored by their parents often grow up to see the world as a cold place and desperately seek acceptance from others as adults. As teenagers, being ignored by one’s peers is akin to a social death. And even moving to a new city where everyone treats you and ignores you like a stranger, living single and with few friends, can quickly grow emotionally exhausting.

It’s a basic emotional need for people as human beings to be accepted and paid attention to by people they hold valuable. Ever been in the opposite situation where everyone’s attention is on YOU and they’re intently listening to what YOU have to say?

Like perhaps you gave a speech to a crowd and got applause. Or perhaps you had a large role in a school play. Or perhaps you had a particularly good time with some girls where you were on a roll telling stories and they all laughed, rapt with attention. Or perhaps you found yourself in a leadership position and everyone did exactly whatever you said – not because they had to, but because you emerged as the natural leader of the group.

Any one of those scenarios feels pretty good. You probably even got quite an adrenalin rush and high from the experience. If you’ve had an experience like that, you know how powerful that high is. Now imagine its exact opposite – being ignored. Being ignored is equally as powerful, except that it makes you feel like crap, like a loser.

When you’re ignored by people you hold valuable, it’s as if your total sense of social value is sucked right out of your stomach. And without social value, you experience the feeling of “genetic death” – that without value, no woman will mate with you to pass on your genes. That’s why we all like positive attention.

Beautiful women look for positive attention more than anyone else. Beautiful women are attention junkies. Why else would they spend hours every day fixing their hair and getting dressed in uncomfortable clothes, high-heels, and makeup if they weren’t looking for some positive attention? Beautiful women go to clubs to pump attention from men directly into their veins – it’s like a drug fix that they can never satiate.

Imagine a beautiful woman who is NEVER ignored by men. She ALWAYS gets attention from them. She doesn’t even know what being ignored feels like. She has a lot of social value and on an unconscious level, she knows it.

Now imagine you open her group of friends and build social value for yourself by talking to all of them through stories, jokes, routines, and so on.

But you ignore HER.

You even talk to her friends with your back turned slightly AWAY from her.

This is something she’s never experienced before from a man. You are different from other men. She’ll start to feel, “Why isn’t this guy paying attention to me?”

As she stands there, ignored by you and her friends, and no longer the center of attention, her social value deflates like a popped balloon. Pretty soon, she’ll start to feel terribly uncomfortable that her social value has been body slammed to the floor through the simple phenomenon of – being ignored.

And she’ll get VERY antsy to win your attention VERY quickly. Why?

Because, if she wins your attention, your social value will rub off back on her.

As you’ll see when you try this, within minutes most beautiful women will mentally “snap” from being ignored and try to win your attention back to them and away from their friends. For example, if you’re reading her friend’s palms but ignoring her, she might say, “Hey what about me!” or “Do me next!” or “Let me try!”

Do not immediately give in to her request. If you immediately give in to her request, she’ll have gotten her attention fix from you. Her social value will be restored. She’s won you over – you’re just another guy who will jump at her every little request. Instead, tell her teasingly, “Hey greedy fingers… you’ll have to wait…”

Then tell her friends, “Is she your friend? Boy does she have greedy fingers.” Then continue to ignore her and continue to engage her friends.

Her social value will continue to deflate while yours will continue to rise – an inverse relationship of social value. Your original social values will reverse. If you came in as an 8, you’re now a 10. She falls from a 10 to an 8.

After ignoring her for several more minutes, she’ll be looking for any opening to receive your attention and acceptance of her – in just the same was as how most guys who approach her are looking to receive her attention and acceptance of them!

Obviously, you don’t always need to ignore the girl to get her attentione to get laid. For example, it may be completely unnecessary to ignore a girl who already has low social value – a girl that isn’t particularly attractive for instance. Ignoring a girl to knock down her social value – when she already has low social value to begin with – could crush her ego.

But when dealing with attractive women, ignoring her followed by screening and acceptance will greatly increase your success rate. And the more attractive the woman, the better ignoring her works.

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Julie S

Some of us are beautiful AND intelligent women- who won’t- and don’t- tolerate games. It just reveals the gamer to be a sad, limited person. Also, as a math major, i can tell you- love is NOT mathematical- it’s all about the heart. -just wondering how any man could be satisfied with an easily manipulated woman? I mean, wake up!! They’re a lifetime target for other limited-minded men. Sad.

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6 months ago

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Anonymous

But honestly speaking when beautiful women get attention imidiately , you start to big up your self and start to talk negative about the guy who’s just giving attention desperately

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3 months ago

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King

Be very carefull you can over do it and losse a girl that you had good chemistry but also remenber you dont need any bitch

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7 months ago

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Dagg

All guys here have to bear in mind that women lie to themselves all of the time. So they say things they do not believe themselves, why should you. You just look their behavior, not what they say.

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11 months ago

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Dagg

I was born ‘natural’ with women and I can say this works like a charm. I used this among other subconsciously without even knowing it. Kudos to the author Especially this situation where you approach less attractive girls and ignore beautiful ones. In other situations you first have to raise her attention and then ignore her. One example, in a club you approach to the table where one, two or three women sit and start to talk to them. Their social value and satisfaction raises because others see that you approached them. Then you suddenly get up and approach other… Read more »

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11 months ago

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John

There’s one problem to this theory, if you ignore the hot girl there are plenty of men happy to talk to her. I’ve tried this technique many times – I’ll just pretend I’ve not noticed her and she’ll be in to me! The result is she thinks I’m weird and quickly moves on. I’ve lost count of the girls that slipped through my fingers and watched them go off with the other bloke who did talk to her. I do agree though that being full on is also a poor technique. The blokes who try too hard and get no… Read more »

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2 years ago

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Michael D. Perkins

To all the guys out there. You’re considered a bum no matter how much of a gentleman you are if your income is below $60,000 a year and if you’re blue collar. I’m so fed up with American women, because no matter how hard you try you’re treated like shit!!!!

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2 years ago

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Anonymously yours

If I like you and show interest and then you ignore me…. I’m moving on. Plain and simple.

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2 years ago

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Anonymous

You never loved a guy to the last extent of even hate him just because he’s not approaching you

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3 months ago

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Anonymous

Actually ignoring a girl does work occasions and on some it don’t. Here’s how you play the ignore game with girls. Give them a taste of what it be like to be in your social circle. For example at school, work, party, at event, etc etc etc… That’s all you give them though is a taste. Thats all. Once they had that taste it leave them with a curious state of mind bout you and what makes you, you. Remember curiosity interests women. One day you give them small talk, next day you give them a simply hi and keep… Read more »

It does not work only because you are acting like you have value rather than actually have value. If you are a bum, no amount of pickup antics will win any woman over. First, you need to get your life in order.

Most males are losing interest in this so called Art and BTW, what about Equality or Equal Rights? Let the female do all that work and face games, lies, deceit, spending their monies for a change, but, they wouldn’t receive the rejection that men face constantly in chronic amounts. This is why so many gentlemen are going our own way Independently

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2 years ago

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RebelBeaner

This does apply if the bitch is into you. If she a slut then her ass is gonna find the juiciest dick around

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2 years ago

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she

Unnmm?? Really…..

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2 years ago

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Mariah

As a woman that is considered attractive, this method seems like bogus. I have had the option of dating countless men. If I found a guy attractive and he showed interest in me, I wasted no time in meeting him. If a guy, no matter how attractive he was, ignored me, I would assume he wasn’t interested and move on. Most attractive women aren’t desperate enough to chase after a man who ignores her.

the girl isn’t permanently ignored. It’s very temporary, a couple of minutes, creating space to get her chasing you, where you position yourself as the prize.

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2 years ago

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Amina

This would only work on women with low self esteem. High quality women won’t fall for this kind of manipulation, they will assume he is not interested and they find someone else. Guys have sadly got the whole attraction process wrong! It is beyond belief is that you want to emotionally hurt another person to get them to like you, how sick is this!!!

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2 years ago

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dee

Yes, very manipulative. Don’t worry though, only women with low self-esteem fall for this. It makes the guy look very unattractive and saves me wasting any time on an emotional manipulator.

Games only work temporarily if at all and if used on drunk low iq women it might work … Until they sober up & was the game for usuary only? U know karma will get you for that 🙁

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2 years ago

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Stanley

Not as easy as it may seem, you will sure get curious, like you beautiful and attractive and he isnt talking to you at all when you try to contribute he answers you briefly, its something guys doesnt do to you and now a nobody is ignoring u, There’s high probability of the Lady goin after the guy

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2 years ago

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RebelBeaner

After all you are a WOMAN and seem to know “MALE” mentality.. Dumb bitch, men and bitches arent the same

They certainly are different and guess who the deceptive game players are?

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2 years ago

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Angie

First sign of being ignored by a man I’m out.

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2 years ago

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sometimes

Why are u so angry!! ??
Go get the one you love duh. You left her remember** and stop being so rude!!

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2 years ago

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Suzy

Thank you for your comment Mariah, I’m absolutely with you in this. If a guy ignores me, I lose interest in him. Why would I want to be with a guy who ignores me? I’m not that desperate. Oh, is it just a technique to get me interested in him/attached to him? Well, it’s not working so too bad for you dude! How would I know that you are interested in me/attracted to me if you don’t show it in any way? I once dated a guy who, during the dating phase, was acting hot and cold all the time.… Read more »

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2 years ago

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jeff

Its not like women talk back to some of us when we show that we like them

Never pay any attention to babbling women. They lie or are delusional. That is a fact.

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2 years ago

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sometimes

Babble babble call me 🙂 lolololkk

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2 years ago

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sometimes

They will not all like you back that’s just a fact

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2 years ago

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wolfgang sprung jr

Problem is when we do show women attention, they ignore us. I had a recent encounter with a woman who was flirting with me and when I started looking her way she started ignoring me. So I passed her up and said hi to her and she gave me a dirty look then turned her back to me without saying a word. Now when I shop at the supermarket she manages, she disappears and doesn’t come out as I shop. Many women have done stuff like this towards me and when I no longer have interest they look at me… Read more »

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2 years ago

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Emari

Exactly. And women who aren’t as attractive should be insulted by this form of manipulation. I’d rather be single than chase men who are playing games to get my attention.

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1 year ago

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Dagg

@Mariah, if the guy is intelligent and subtle, ignoring you won’t be so obvious, it will be rather subtle. If you move on despite of that, you are not worth the effort because you are labeled as … (you name it).

I have been picking up highly intelligent and attractive girls using this method (but not knowing it because I’m natural). Some of them are on lead positions in corporate world today. They can be considered as worth any attention, beautiful, smart, self-confident, emotional etc. And it worked on them

Ignoring the hot girl is not always ignoring the hot girl, sometimes the target is not the prettiest girl in the group. In my experience the hot girl is not the best in bed. The girl who does not know she is pretty will rock your world. The pretty girl best friend will do things to you that you will never forget. So to the girls who are looking for the guy who ignores them, it is not all about you. Sometime it is about your friend that does not think see is pretty but is gorgeous in the right… Read more »

Funny how anonymous is a dumb tramp without an education or life. All the other sluts on here should go bleach there black assholes and lose the bread gut.

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4 years ago

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seydou keita

Great points, ideas, and concepts. All situations call for a distinct approach in this case trying to get the hot girl when she’s with a group of her friends. One can use these elements and adapt them to a particular setting. Yet why are stupid tramps on here commenting? There is no reason this post if for men! Not smelly fishy cunts, who think they have testosterone and high androgens running through there bodies. Great article fuck the hoes!

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4 years ago

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sometimes

Your mom should wash your mouth out with soap I don’t care how old you are… & with a mouth and temperament like that you’ll only b dating the low class never a lady.
And what is accomplished that you can brag about capturing a female everyone else has also had!!!???
Lmbo

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2 years ago

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Anonymous

if you fart, you’ll make her laugh

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4 years ago

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Tony-tone

Ignore her face and talk to her tits and ass, always a good last resort secret-weapon.

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4 years ago

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Bobby Caldwell

I do this just for the fun of it on the commute to and from work…there is a certain type of woman, young and hot, who seriously thinks all men want them. I may even attract attention because of my height (6″5′), but I’m not interested in conversation with a woman I don’t know on the subway, nor am I interested in fulfilling her expectations by flirting with or checking her out. I ignore them completely, which results in them now actively trying to get my attention (some will even speak to you, asking the time or something equally pointless).… Read more »

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4 years ago

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Jason

Bobby speaks truth. The game is sad, the amusement is watching the monkey dance.

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2 years ago

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Anonymous

If a woman is trying to seduce another woman, will the seducer ignore her for a period of time, after she had done something nice for her?

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4 years ago

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Barrack obama

no sence

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4 years ago

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Anonymous

fools

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4 years ago

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Anonymous

I wouldn’t listen to this guy. This “trick’ is dated, and way to common nowadays. Any confident, intelligent beautiful women can see right through this. 1. When you walk up to a group of 3 girls and, ignore the most attractive one, she wont question her attractiveness, and crave more attention. She notices the game your trying to play, and avoids you like the plague. I love excusing myself and going to get a drink, the look on your faces is hilarious, and i end up winning your little game. 2. Sure were stared at a lot, but hardly any… Read more »

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5 years ago

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Logan

You sound like a terrible person, I bet you don’t have friends

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4 years ago

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Mr.TooNaive

Awesome reply. Made my day.

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3 years ago

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Anonymous

So true! We do not get approached. ☹

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3 years ago

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Shan Dani

Guys have been bumped by beautiful girls so much that they assume all beautiful girls are bitches. This advice comes from that notion. It is the girls’ fault that they put themselves so high on a pedestal. Girls should learn to be humble. Smile at a guy when he walks up to you instead of giving him a long unfriendly face. Most beautiful women look like they are offended when an average Joe looks at them. Under the makeup, all women are average Jills anyway. So, why play games, just be friendly to everyone and enjoy.

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2 years ago

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Man

Depending on “how” it is said would make a huge difference. It’s not necessarily belittling it’s teasing, hunting, strategy etc. it’s in our human nature to play little gamesie wamesies so get out of your head about it obvious female.

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3 years ago

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A girl

I think that this strategy really, but really works. Because of that strategy I think that I can’t stop thinking about one man and even he is not my type of a Mr. Perfect, at all. He has nothing that I like. He’s just a smart player. Anyway, I have realized I’m in love with him…and that is a real disaster 🙁

Love? Women haven’t a clue what this word means when it comes to men or children for that matter

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2 years ago

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Susannag

Yes Uglyfriend you are right after i realize the same i do not go out with women i am alone and it is it is not that bad as i thought ……..

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5 years ago

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Uglyfriend

This explains why I’ve been spoken to two times out of every singe time I’ve ever been out in my life. Shortly after, of course, they asked me about my more attractive friend. I’m ignored ALL of the time, so I don’t expect to be spoken to–but those two people did, and I was almost happy. Now that I know they don’t actually want anything other than to get rid of my ‘cockblocking’, I guess I can at least stop getting my hopes up.

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5 years ago

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Uglyfriend

I’ve actually been reading more on this, and have officially decided that I will not go out with my friends anymore so I don’t cockblock anyone. Apparently, we’re bad for females AND males [because attractive people think the males are dating us, and don’t try to flirt with them either.] So, yay, one less ugly friend to worry about!

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5 years ago

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Logan

Yayyyyy, I hate the cock blocking mother hens

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4 years ago

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Anonymous Guy

Not every guy is like this, and just cuz a guy comes up to talk to you and ignores the “hott” one doesn’t mean they aren’t interested in you. Guys like confidence too. You also may be a really interesting person. The best looking female isn’t always the best female. Please don’t stop going out with your friends because you think all guys are playing this game. I know you posted half a decade ago but still wanted to add my 2¢

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7 months ago

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Anonymous

Too predictable….When guy does that I know well what’s up…when he ignores me while talking to my friends, it is evident he is after me. I never pursue the guy because I know that he will give up eventually and approaches me in despair. Smart move but not always the way to go. Smart beautiful women sense that…as long as they have healthy confidence and know men well. I am up for directness. I like confidence in men. Respectful, direct (not sleazy) and charming goes far in my world. A man who does not need to play games and knows… Read more »

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5 years ago

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Anonymous

I completely agree. But this article works like a charm as a response to girls that play hard to get

Jesus fkn Christ if you like a girl just try to befriend her without oogling all over her. It’s not that difficult.

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4 years ago

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Ben

Bars are not my typical place to meet women but the tip is really cool. I think the intention behind it is also important (like with almost anything you communicate to women), you got to *get* the mentality behind it.

You’re just playing a game and communicating I get the usual power-plays that go on in social interactions…

And it’s just plain old fun 😉

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6 years ago

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Jes

You are absolutely right. Based on the personal experiences I’ve had with women, I find ignoring them the best thing to do. Many times I’ll see a beautiful women but I won’t give her the attention she wants and I see how they begin to approach me because it’s not something that they are used to. All the women that are getting defensive here and trying to use cheap psychological warfare are talking rubbish and they know it. I have never met a woman who doesn’t love to be noticed. I’ve ignored some beautiful women to a point where they… Read more »

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6 years ago

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Smarty pants

Yeah just keep ignoring the ladies and someday you may have lovely cats.

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5 years ago

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Anonymous

that’s not what the article is saying

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4 years ago

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sometimes

Yeeeeeeeppp!!!! The players gonna get played!!!!!
I mean clean the catbox .

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2 years ago

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Perry

LOL! Look at how all the women in the comments get defensive. Rich. “Being beautiful doesn’t mean you know that your beautiful, and it doesn’t mean you are begging for attention like some pathetic narcissist. Yeah, right. Attractive women know when they’re the center of attention. Though men may be wary of approaching them (this depends), women constantly feel their stares. “The same thing goes with hot girls; every girl, every person for that matter, knows what it is like to be ignored.” What? Who goes out to be ignored? People typically frequent late night establishments looking for sexual encounters;… Read more »

Exactly Perry and yet they say “no game players nor drama” when they are masters at playing with pocket books, emotions, minds and souls (something that`s missing within their cheap exterior)

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2 years ago

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sometimes

Not all women are like that…. You’re generalizing*****

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2 years ago

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sometimes

The real question is whyyyyyyyyyy are guys so intimidated by beauty!???
Dna made her pretty.

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2 years ago

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Sam Smith

“The real question is whyyyyyyyyyy are guys so intimidated by beauty!???
Dna made her pretty.”

No DNA did NOT make her pretty. Thick coating of ‘war paint’ (aka Makeup, made her painted face look nice.

Just google up before and after images of girls and their made up faces. there are enough projects done on this. YOu will realize that only about 1 out of 10 presentable girls are really worth looking at without their war paint on.

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1 year ago

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Don Wahn

Brilliant and very , very true . Hot babes want what they cannot have —-cause they get so much.

And they are the biggest headache over the long term. A real risk to mate with and God forbid, have a child with one? May as well give up while you are ahead or face Family Court and have your life (plus child) ruined

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2 years ago

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sometimes

Wowwwww heres an idea
Try getting to know someone before you rush them off to bed sex and a kid. . and divorce
Slowwwwww that dang horse down just a little!!

Your welcome 🙂

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2 years ago

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Max

I’ve always been aware of this social phenomena, but never could articulate it as well as this article.

Ignoring works only for some NPD’s and borderlineP’s
But it doesn’t metter they evil in bed but stay away let them chase and never commit, they will chase and suck you dry anytime you wish! just pull back if they try to move into your place:) never ever. They are sex psycho!
Good girls like good boys!!!!

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5 years ago

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angel

this advice is horrible unless you are looking for a stupid insecure one night stand…then by all means go ahead. any sexy self-respecting woman wouldn’t fall for this. why don’t you just try being yourself. brains and humor will get you in her pants. trust me.

ever be in a conversation and had the people suddenly have to leave, leaving you standing there by yourself? felt sucky right? you don’t need to be stupid or insecure to get that feeling. being ignored temporarily works, it makes BOTH men and women chase.

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7 years ago

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Anonymous

I was told by the last girl I dated she was attracted to me because I didn’t chase her like every other guy. I wasn’t paying her attention because I had a girlfriend at the time. As soon as my previous ex to this girl and I broke up she jumped at the opportunity to get my attention. Jesse is right. I got this girl and wasn’t ignoring her to get her attention, but unintentionally attracted her because I seemed different by not giving her attention. So for all the women on here that say this technique is low and… Read more »

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6 years ago

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Anonymous

I think the key to this is that you UNINTENTIONALLY attracted her. I have a feeling that she was attracted to you because you weren’t trying to ignore her or pick her up, you were simply being yourself without the burden of playing head games. If you had been intentionally ignoring her, things may have gone differently.

ignoring has to be followed up by showing interest. you cannot just perpetually ignore the girl, she’d think you weren’t interested or had no balls.

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7 years ago

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Anonymous

If you ignore her and then show interest, she’ll be suspicious. If you ignore or neg her and then show interest, she’ll think you’re bipolar/cocky, and if she decides to show any interest in return there’s at least a 50% chance she’s doing it to spite you. Meaning, she plans on dumping you anyway.

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5 years ago

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sometimes

Haha!! I think you’re right!!!!!

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2 years ago

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Calio

🙄 Its not to ignore a woman all together but the best one out of the pair/group that’s if she’s the one you want and guys have been hitting on her all night. So you speak to the group while keeping it a general convo slyly focus more on the one you don’t want. I always done it so she never cockblocked me but after reading this I guess it makes sense too.

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6 years ago

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stephen

Well said. Beautiful women cannot tolerate it when guys ignore them. Expect some women to give you some grief for saying this, it just angers them that there are still men out there that won’t give in to a woman no matter how beautiful she is.

Jesse- I appreciate your “all girls are the same” approach. Obviously you know a lot about women. If I were to say, “the hot guy in a room has never been ignored in his life, he gets pussy wherever he goes!” you would probably say bullshit to that. The same thing goes with hot girls; every girl, every person for that matter, knows what it is like to be ignored. Being beautiful doesn’t mean you know that your beautiful, and it doesn’t mean you are begging for attention like some pathetic narcissist. Make-up does not equal attention any more than… Read more »

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7 years ago

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Anonymous

Kictk ass point you mather. I hope to read your posts as we go an.

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7 years ago

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v.s.i

Spot on, and I’m glad there _is_ someone who can read through all this nonsense and meaningless drivel better than myself. (I’ve been awake for way too long…)

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5 years ago

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Logan

Dudes don’t care about girls who are actually worth their while. Screw that, I’d rather have hot yet shallow chicks then a bunch of really good friends.

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4 years ago

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Don Carlson

I ignored a girl tonight, but didn’t do it to be mean- she plain came right out and said she was interested. And I’m not used to that, so I choked! Hoping to see her again- she said I was cute and liked my style, so the least I can do is tell her how adorable I think she is.

Truth is N, they are shallow narcissists and it is a joke reading how females will defend their own gender at the expense of lying. They don’t fool most men anymore which is why marriage is disintegrating and there are so many childless females. Break the laws of nature and become self-(all suffixes except LESS), this is what you get.

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