What Is The Point Of Telling Ugly Truths?

The subject of this post is the new plaintive wail you lately hear spilling from the schoolmarmish pursed lips of liberals and status quo-ers who are suddenly becoming very uncomfortable with the torrent of discomfiting truths penetrating the airwaves, and especially with the truthbomb throwers like the proprietors of this blog who actually sport a working sack and don’t give a flying fuck what offense the perpetually fake phony fraudulent grievance constituency takes when their cocktail party discourse is crashed by mischievous pricks.

“What is the point of telling ugly truths? Don’t you know it will hurt people? What good can come from it?”

The value of truth is self-evident. The pursuit of it needs no explanation. The fact that a growing chorus of institutional(ized) ruling elite is starting to think that some truths are best left locked in an attic chest bodes ill for the future of freedom of speech in America. I predict within ten years legislatures and courts across this land will impose restrictions on the First Amendment. And the Founding Fathers, having already rolled a million times in their graves, will roll one last time, and the earth will swallow whole the America we once knew, but which will be no more.

You think I’m joking, or that I’m posing in martyr garb. Ok, think that. Then get back to me in ten years, and we’ll see if you still have the confidence of your snarky smirk.

But I am in a magnanimous mood. Some ask the question from genuine motives. They sincerely don’t, or can’t, see the value in exposing pretty lies and ugly truths. And they want to know, “Where’s the Benefit?” One such topic of discussion which often elicits this bristled reaction is honest discussion about average human population groups differences (along numerous metrics). I understand the urge to silence, or cavalierly dismiss, open discussion of this topic. The human ego is the most powerful force in the universe, more powerful even than the female tingle. We are constructed of origin material that impels us to wrap our senses of self-worth in the neuronal equivalent of three foot steel-reinforced concrete bunkers, and to associate, no matter how unjustifiably, attacks against our tribe as judgments on ourselves.

I get it.

And… you know what? I don’t care.

Not anymore.

Not when the opposite of the truth — the filthy, acrid lies we here have been choking on for fifty years or more in this country — has been, and continues to be, used as a cudgel to bludgeon the skulls of the favored whipping boys and to take a huge steaming dump on reality.

It is an affront to my lying eyes. It is Orwellian in philosophy and practice. It is a humiliation, a personal slap in the face, to parade this stinking carcass of bullshit in front of me as if it is the Word of God and I should swallow it whole, for my own good you see.

I say fuck you to all of that. And I dream of the day when the rope will be knotted and the lampposts freshly lacquered for the vengeance upon my enemies, my betrayers, that is so sweet. So sweet.

Ahem.. oh yeah where was I… just had a caffeine moment… phew.

Anyhow, some persons of what I judge to have good hearts, ask if any good can come from discussing AICH BEE DEE. They ask what, if anything, would change if the ugliest truths were accepted by the ruling class? What is the practical benefit of hurting some people’s feelings? The reader Thursday emailed what I think is a very good reply to this question, and so I reprint it here:

Some practical applications of HBD:

1. Immigration restriction. You need a certain number of high IQ people to keep a First World society going.
2. An end to affirmative action. Minority underperformance is not due to racism, so affirmative action is grossly unfair.
3. Discouraging dysgenics, i.e. not subsidizing single motherhood through welfare, regardless of disparate impact on minorities. See #1.
4. Shutting down movements to let minority prisoners out into society. (I’m open to other equally effective methods of controlling crime, but they should be applied to all, not just minorities.)
5. An end to blaming white racism for all the problems of the world.
5a. This may seem like mostly a minor annoyance. But really intellectual hygeine is reason enough to get rid of it. Forcing people to believe lies is generally corrupting.
5b. It prevents people from thinking seriously about solving the problems among low IQ groups. You can’t solve a problem unless you think clearly about its cause.

You could make a case for some of these things without recourse to HBD, but we all know how effective that has been. For example, you can’t just talk about IQ without talking about HBD. The disparities between high and low IQ racial groups just are there and are used to discredit the idea of IQ in general. These days you really have to quote chapter and verse with hard data to show you aren’t racist.

As for inferior, well that is a judgment call. In some important ways, blacks may be superior to whites and not just in regards to sports and celebrity. T. is Haitian and I’d note that Haitian art is just way better than anything done in America in the past 50 years or so.

Whites have created liberal modernity and it is not without its significant downsides, spiritual, artistic and even intellectual.

Of course, blacks and many of these other groups don’t seem very good at creating and maintaining a crime free, high tech society. Though I’d note that high levels of black crime and social dysfunction are at least partially a response to living in certain societies. I’ve visited St. Lucia, which is a very black place, and, up until the recent influx of tourodollars, it had been mostly crime free and is still relatively so. Blacks in the South up until the 1960s were relatively peaceful and well ordered too. But modernity + blacks seems to equal lots of crime and social dysfunction.

This is just a taste of the good — GOOD — social benefits that would come from listening to the truth instead of running from it or trying to shut it down. IQ is but one measure of a man’s character, and but one ingredient contributing to a culture’s prideful sense of self and trust in fellow-man. The truth covers much more extensive territory than just the particulars of abstract thinking ability. Any lie-pusher who attempts to reduce the debate to a disingenuous IQ war is engaging in deliberate obfuscation of the myriad other truths which pulse through the veins and capillaries of the human panoply of difference.

The consequences of lies matter. They matter more than most are willing to admit.

CH is filling a much needed hole in the blogosphere since In Mala Fide went dark. Victim classes, all of them, have been spun and spun and spun and woven into a very pointy and hardened metal spear which is now pointing at the heart of the very civilization, and truth be told, PEOPLE that allowed them to voice such grievances in the first place! Your post really strikes me as someone who perhaps has lived indoors his whole life and sort of “knew” there was something right beyond his window. Did not quite want to accept that it was there in reality. Knew it heated and lit his home and kept him warm, safe, and secure. Then one day, walked out the door into a cloudless azure sky and saw the bright fusion ball of reality directly on. Fearful and insecure in the raw truth of it, suddenly needing to be away from the bright white light and the heat, seeking the comfort of the diluted indoor version.

Sounds too me like this faggot likes the idea of evolutionary theory when it comes to game, but on all matters egalitarian, hates real talk. This kind of selective reasoning is feminine to the extreme. Please fuck off to Jezebel. You get to pick and choose what you like to believe there.

Many of them are Indian, Asian, mulatto, black, even Middle Eastern. Others are half-caste who can’t bring themselves to identify with pro-whites (A.B. Dada). Others have half-caste buddies they don’t want to offend. Others simply lack the stones.

Heartiste:The human ego is the most powerful force in the universe, more powerful even than the female tingle.

I thought the whole point of Game Theory was that the female tingle is inextricably intertwined with the female ego, and that the teasing of the female ego [intellectually] resulted in the teasing of the female tingle [physiologically].

In the long run, urban metrosexual red-pill PUAs will have to make the choice between their politics and their habits. Just like the twentysomething whores who think they can spend their prime slut-hopping the cockousel, then make the big switcheroo to family, dedicated playas-4-life will face an abrupt choice the moment they understand that the total investment in pussy creates no assets and no yields. This explains part of the shifting theme on this site, a shift asef has no ability to recognize or understand.

While we don’t suffer menopause, eventually it becomes too late to invest in long-term assets for men as much as women, and so PUAs double down on the myths of marriage-as-prison and the permanence of women as unreformable, incorrigible sluts. The ones who recognize this mistake — like the high profile marriages/mea culpas within “the community” (D’Angelo, Cook, Max) — are abominations. They settle just like female wall victims do. If you don’t believe me, show me an attractive wife of a former PUA.

You make your bed, you lie in it. You contribute to the blue-state urban cess pool, you get fat on its unique advantages, you become inextricable from the decline and fall. This explains the disconnect between CH’s personal tolerance for victimized minorities (blacks, gays) and his private HBD theories, only only come out to play in anonymous writings, that acknowledge the reality of indulging their dysfunction. Not only does the urban PUA’s habits require him to stay on a sinking ship, he must make peace with the sources of corruption: moving to the suburbs or the country is not an option. Virgins become “unicorns,” loyal childbearing wives can must be whores who haven’t met his charming ways yet, obedient women by definition exist only a white knight’s fantasy. There are no clubs in Iowa, no lawyer femmcunts whose sexual conquering is all the sweeter for her severe cuntliness. Could you imagine! Living on a farm! Or on a cul-de-sac in a gated subdivision?

They hate the cum-stained taxis and shrill leftist busibodies all around them, but, like sea-level equatorial negroids, they are not conditioned to live in the high climes, the Zarathustran “rarefied air.” What to do besides resign oneself to the apocalypse? They make a desert and call it “poolside.” An empty, graffiti-slashed pool in the middle of the Bachelor Arms motel.

Aaaaand, since the usual suspects are already copying-and-pasting their “keyboard jockey” and “mangina” replies into the comboxes, don’t take it from me. Take it from your hero-conqueror, who conducts his life as if a month into the future will never come:

Lately when i read your ravings, i sometimes like to think that I’ve stumbled into a confederacy of dunces and Ignatius J. Reilly himself is firing off missives into the manosphere. Someday they’ll recognize your genius!!!!

Sorry, it was the weekend and I was busy banging a cute little brunette chick 8 years younger than me who works as some kind of lawyer assistant.

Happy to reply if someone wants to give me the cliff notes on whatever the fuck king A was ranting about. I get like a paragraph into his rambling and then just get bored and skip the rest. I honestly can’t be bothered to read 10 pages of bitter old man rambling with no actual useful content. I write a shit-load too but at least my shit helps people out.

Read: “I got nothing. But it’s cool because I’m so cool, and I’m so cool because I said I’m so cool.”

Meanwhile, four paragraphs are “tl,” attention-spans are for chumps, supporting what you say is for old men, and the inability to conduct basic multi-tasking is a virtue.

Nothing new here.

Remember this little exchange, Alexander, when you imagine this poseur has anything useful to offer beyond the opinions he has plenty of time to express at mind-numbing length but is too “busy” to support against challenge.

Most close observers are figuring out his shtick. He’ll be the last to know.

– reword something the other person didn’t say into something you can argue

– argue that for a few paragraphs

– rally safe agreeable members of the crowd who will back you up

– try to jab at the person’s ego/value (ie – “nobody will liiiike youuuu”) to get them to react

– then finish it off with a fun little conspiracy theory bowtie (“they’re all ON TO YOU!!”…”they” being a vague spooky term that people in debates use when they want to pretend their view has more support/evidence than is really there to make the other person worried)

Haven’t seen one of those in a while. Glad you’re sticking true to form! 🙂

Lightly amusing to thumb through yet another iteration of pontifcated judgments. This time with a splitting generalization of what happens to PUAs in the ‘blue-state urban cess pool’.

I’ll help explain a few things to you. Game helps men achieve sexual relations with attractive, desirable women in today’s world. And it’s a skill set that can be learned, and it’s not easy. One topic of game is LTR screening and management. Having the ability to generate an abundance of relationships allows a man to select a woman that exhibits the qualities of a woman required for committment and possibly a family; if desired. It also helps one learn how to manage the LTR, keep the attraction alive and have no risk of her cheating.

Maybe David D and whomever don’t have hot wives or whatever…irrelevant. Truth is they’ve helped more men have better lives than you.

Quality, beautiful, young, fertile non cock-carouselling women still exist today. And they even do in your blue urban cess-pools.They are just scarce and in high-demand. Which is why men need game to enjoy a high quality of life that doesn’t include the fear of marrying a man-jawed wife past her prime that cheats/divorces because they (the man) has no options, no game.

On the contrary:
Choosing to wed a jesus loving, semi-avg looking woman at a young age, start a family and move to a place where logistics makes it difficult for her to cuckold is…

EASY.

Anyone can do it. It is the epitomy of the BETA male. It is you.

Being successful at game is not a *choice* that one can just turn on at will and yield an abundance of high-demand female options. This concept is easy to grasp yet your lack of acknowledment presents the ugly truth of the Queen B psyche:

Your continued judgements against “PUAs” or “blue urban cess pools” and your idea of how it works demonstrates the fear of your disconnect: You threw in the towel early in life with a semi average looking wife. You’ve never had success with bedding multiple attractive women and you’ve never tried.

Why would a person with such a negative view on PUA/game topics spend so much time on a predominantly PUA/game blog? The other ugly truth is envy. And the pathologic projection is sad. Assuage yourself by acting out oneupmanship every day with internet bloggers by citing history and using uneccessary wording; it won’t bring inner peace.

Matt, you’re a pussy. You’re a weak, deluded, angry, history geek with a thesaurus collection and too much free time.

…and it’s not easy … Being successful at game is not a *choice* that one can just turn on at will and yield an abundance of high-demand female options.

Yes, in fact it is easy. Speak for yourself.

So you can’t “just turn it on at will.” Fine. You can’t. But then you are a tryhard so hyperfocused on your own technique, rather than relaxing and allowing the interaction with women to be a side effect. Your incredulity is understandable.

Prattle on among your thirsty omega hordes and promise them the moon. You are not telling me anything of interest, and I have nothing to say to you. The rest of us are bored with your third-rate dick-dipping tales which somehow all add up to a Handbook for Life.

Matt, you’re a pussy. You’re a weak, deluded, angry, history geek with a thesaurus collection and too much free time.

Uh oh. Is somebody mad? I wasn’t even addressing you, and yet such a worthy alpha is so easily riled?

Inane psychoanalysis based on bread crumbs is all you got. If you have anything of substance to offer beyond asserting your unimpeachable cred and issuing a general denial, let me know, “Ripp.”

Uh oh. Is somebody mad? I wasn’t even addressing you, and yet such a worthy alpha is so easily riled?

In a nutshell.

Choosing to wed a jesus loving, semi-avg looking woman at a young age, start a family and move to a place where logistics makes it difficult for her to cuckold is…

EASY.

Just this sentence of his alone bespeaks the fool, loud and clear.

In his topsy-turvey bizarro-world kingdom, banging “hot” girls through “game” legerdemain of tongue in an urban environment is tough… but finding God-fearing, down home girls (who, btw, are often far more beautiful than blinged-out, made-up “hot” would-be starlets) and raising a decent family is easy.

But dude, what kind of alpha would you need to be, to make a 9, or 10 satisfied with you for so many years, and that she is on the terms of the most of the people “normal”(secular, educated, employed, and residing in a big city).
If you were talking of 7s, and even 8s, it seems lot easier, but still; keep the attraction alive? How to do it for years in the conditions described above?

Also are there PUA’s that are in really long LTR’s or marriages, with a 8.5+?
Heard of Dalrock, and Kay Athol, but don’t know much of their personal lives where they live, how beautifull their wives are, and so on…

YaReally, you described many times how you banged somebodys wifes, and girlfriends, but turn the table a bit. What would you advised against your own tactic? What would you do to prevent your wife from such stuff, and people?
In essence what do you think is the core of your attractivness to women?

Oh no, it’s hard. No shit lol 🙂 This is the equivalent of saying “Ya but c’mon man, starting a successful business is HARD…I mean, lots of businesses fail and there’s competition. Really, how is your “McDonald’s” thing supposed to stay above the competition for YEARS? It’s hard so you probably shouldn’t aim for that goal. Really what you should do is just open a little mom ‘n pop diner in some podunk little town where you won’t have to compete with Burger King or Subway or anyone, because that’s a lot easier and you should just settle for less in life.”

Replace starting a successful business with being a popular musician, pro athlete, etc. Like, come on now, that can’t really be your argument. 😛

“Also are there PUA’s that are in really long LTR’s or marriages, with a 8.5+?”

Doesn’t really matter in the longrun. Your business coach may not have started more than a few small businesses himself, but he can still teach and equip you with the skills to put you on track to head towards Donald Trump success if you’re willing to put in the work and effort to achieve that. Mike Tyson had a boxing coach who probably couldn’t knock him out in the ring. Don’t limit yourself based on other people’s achievements. I don’t imagine you’d recommend that guys who find the Manosphere and Game listen to the people in their personal lives who tell them “only rich handsome guys get girls, you’re a nerd you might as well not even try, just find a 4 and get a job at Wal-Mart and wait life out until you die”.

“What would you advised against your own tactic? What would you do to prevent your wife from such stuff, and people?”

Be better than other men (more confidence, more solid in myself and my beliefs, values, attitudes, lead the relationship, etc.), don’t stop working toward personal goals, and make sure she gets a healthy dose of what she needs (emotions, both good and bad, discipline, rewards, etc.).

Basically don’t slack off and get complacent and settle in life.

The reason I can fuck guys’ wives and girlfriends so easily is because those guys slack off in at least one of those areas. They settle into a mundane lifestyle or let themselves go in general, they stop setting goals and developing themselves and just become apathetic slugs in life, or they slack off gaming their girl and she gets bored and loses attraction because he provides a boring dialtone flatline of emotions. Then I sweep in, use my Game skills to quickly/efficiently figure out where she is and isn’t satisfied, and use Game to quickly/efficiently press the appropriate buttons. Shrug. It’s easy to do because other men MAKE it easy to do.

Even you, your attitude is terrible (no offense, I’m not judging you as a person, just saying the beliefs that come out in this particular chunk of writing you’ve done are not good ones). If you got a 10, I would take her off your hands easy, because you already don’t think you could be the kind of guy she’d stay with. It’s too impossible to keep a 9 or 10 satisfied for so long. If you believe it, she believes it, and I would just play off your pessimistive beliefs to get her.

Could I keep a 10 and raise a family with her and grow old together? Well, other guys have done it. Those “secular, educated, employed, and residing in a big city” 10s aren’t all dying alone. Remember, PUAs aren’t doing anything impossible here, all we’re doing is looking at successful people, looking for patterns in their behaviors, attitudes, beliefs, etc. and backwards engineering then codifying those observations and experiences into a learnable system.

It’s the same as looking at a bunch of successful entrepreneurs or athletes or whatever and finding the patterns they share and adopting those into your own life (“Think And Grow Rich”, “7 Habits of Highly Effective People”, etc. etc.). The only reason guys think it’s any different and any less plausable and do-able in relationsihps is that how attractive we are to women is something that affects us to our core…you may never really think you could be rich and have 10 limousines and 3 mansions, so if you don’t achieve that it doesn’t really bother you and you accept that you CAN achieve that if you follow the same steps those other guys did but ehh you’re happy where you are because you still feel good about yourself as-is.

But we were all taught that there’s someone out there for everyone and there are plenty of fish in the sea and we’ll all find “The One” someday when the universe decides it’s time and girls are all special Madonna angels who will never fuck us over or chase hypergamy, so guys don’t want to put effort into it or learn a system or anything the same way that if you grew up believing at 21 you’d be handed a fortune of money, you wouldn’t bother studying how to become rich and successful. And someone would say “Dude, no one’s going to hand you a fortune, you have to earn it, maybe you shouldn’t slack off in school so much…” and you’d go “ehh whatever man, it’ll all work out, you’re too obsessed.”

There are plenty of PUAs who’ve been in LTRs, we have entire relationship boards dedicated to breaking down that stuff. A lot of them find being with 9s and 10s to be too much work in the long-term but a lot of people find running a business or being a top athlete to be too much work too.

Sure, you can just be an expat and move to some asian country and find some desperate poor submissive but decent looking woman and then move her out to the country and keep her locked in a basement. That is a perfectly viable strategy. But you’re doing that not because you WANT to, but because you know you’re too pussy to handle a challenge. And that’s fine too, you can reproduce and live a nice quiet little life and probably be pretty happy. Same way you can just go for a walk in a forest instead of climbing Mount Everest and you can play pick-up basketball with your buddies in your drive-way instead of trying to make it to the NBA.

But some of us want more than what life hands us. The question you should be asking yourself is: Why does that make you so angry? (not you specifically, but the Greg Elliot’s and King A’s of the world)

But some of us want more than what life hands us. The question you should be asking yourself is: Why does that make you so angry? (not you specifically, but the Greg Elliot’s and King A’s of the world)

Calling you on your worm’s eye view of the world when you talk nonsense is not being “angry” at life… but you knew that already, you just had to prove you “don’t care” about King A and myself yet again.

When you’re older and have more understanding about things, you’ll realize the fallacy of even a simple statement like “what life hands us”.

We really don’t care if you want to bang 1000 women of various levels of virtue… most of your so-called “golden advice” is merely common sense for dealing with the Jersey Shore crowd… just don’t go acting like you’re got life solved and everyone else is a wannabe, because you haven’t experienced or achieved even half of what true manhood entails.

Does your version of “true manhood” mean becoming a 50+yo bitter racist old man who’s wife rarely fucks him and who has never actually achieved anything significant with his life (you didn’t invent or create anything anyone cares about and no one looks up to you or wants to be you, aside from your internet bromances with other bitter angry old men) besides reproducing and who, at 50+, knows he’s too old TO actually achieve anything significant, so he spends the last years of his life angry and getting into Internet arguments instead of enjoying life and trying to help others?

Greg and King A, i know YeReally is a pagan, but exactly because, he commands a knowledge inaccessible to us, and knowledge of the world in his domain that is stiriking.
I can’t but adress your dissmissiveness of him. It is in my opinion true, noone is going to live a life like this, and it is not for the most of the people the primary concern, it’s not for me either. It just that in my eyes YaReally is like an explorer, that explores the jungles or deserts of Africa, or we could even compare him with (lol) an astronaut, since established PUA’s like him and CH are that rare. Nobody wants to go there, nor that far, but everyone wants to know what’s really there, and see if ther’s something for them, because it’s real and it is to be counted with.

So thank you YaReally. I can’t tell you “you’re doing a great job”, but certanly you’re pulling out nice knowledge out of the things that you do.
Just remain(or became) open to possibility that God my one day take your life into his hands, and make of it something that you wouldn’t even dreamt of. Happened before…. To me too.

A guy like me. My wife is a 9, loves me dearly, and has for six years of marriage and another two of courtship. I’m the weak link as far as infidelity goes. She’s also a Christian, a trait I can highly recommend if you want a good wife.

Reading ain’t going to help you master. It will put you in the right mindset and build bridges no doubt. If I want to get stronger, will reading “Starting Strength” help me squat 275 for 3×5. Probs not brother.

Don’t be stupid. You sound like one of those empty-headed idiotic simple-minded women who think all men are good for is one thing. All of society has influence on you and how you live your life, not to mention the amount of sex you will have. It’s all intertwined. Let me guess, you’re another liberal thinker, right?

Evolutionary psch applies to game, but also to general societal matters. Sadly most people are ignorant, sometimes willfully so.

For example a number of NYC schools, such as Stuyvesant, and Bronx High School of Science may have their funding slashed if they don’t alter the admission criteria to have a more diverse student body. How do they know the criteria is biased? Because of the student composition doesn’t match the wider community. Similar issues arise in hiring for Fire & Police roles.

If these people read some research on the subject they would realise this is in fact to be expected. Instead, these schools and institutions get unfairly maligned.

We need to realize that talking about HBD to liberals is like talking about evolution to creationists. Facts, figures, common sense . . . none of it matters. I know some people think that packaging HBD in a more lib-friendly manner might turn some libs into, say, a Peter Singer, at the very least. This might be true in some cases, but not in many.

Re: why does it matter? It’s funny, but the same libs who ask this would not, I imagine, ask the same thing about Galileo mapping the solar system or Darwin positing natural selection, even though both ideas hurt people’s feelings without any tangible benefit.

The important difference is that believing that your great-great-great-great grandmother was australopithecus has little effect on your life. Shielding your eyes to HBD and going into the hood at night gets you killed, or worse, Golden Urkel in the Whitehouse.

No, it has not. There is every reason to believe that the centrifugal force of kincentricity has, in the case of northwest whites, spun out of control into insoluble polarization as symbolized by the election, embracing inter-ethnic and inter-sexual conflict.

This is NOT seen in history at such an acute degree and confluence of factors. What we are dealing with is absolutely unique.

I don’t think it’s taxes per se that have caused white people not to have kids. It’s feminism, because white parents now raise their girls as boys (give them boys names, even), and girls are expected to have careers first and foremost.

The other reason is that with more and more minorities, white people aren’t having kids because of fear: they don’t want to bring kids into an environment that’s getting more and more hostile. Blame the media for both of these reasons.

That broad that was fucking Petraeus,she is married,to a doctor. I am sure he has been very supportive of his wifes career and is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo proud of her. Look what he gets for it..

Mr Crow, I don’t know if you can get away with this but, my grandfather brought my newborn dad home one day and told my grandmother, ” the lady down the street gave us this little boy because she had too many to care for”.

Yeah it was a total BS story and yes the baby looked like him… but everyone played along with the story and here I am today,

I totally agree that we’re all obligated to have children. Most liberals don’t have children, or they adopt some child from another race/3rd world country to make a statement and to set an example for their liberal friends, and they think it makes them real parents and they are satisfying that obligation.

My experience differs dramatically; I know dozens of couples whose response to having kids is virulent and clearly emotional/psychological. They’d be good parents if an ooopsie happened, but otherwise, by nature or nurture are clearly headed for the extinction bin.

Brother Uh, despair is a self-fulfilling prophesy. I’m not saying we should whistle past the graveyard. But man! Give war a chance.

You may have discerned the problem from afar, but just because the 3/4 white majority has fallen asleep at the post, that doesn’t mean the horror of what they wrought will not inspire them to action once they gaze fully upon their handiwork. An election like this is a mighty tonic, perhaps not for you, but it is for the heart of our constituencies.

The Scots-Irish-Jacksonian genocidal viciousness is a wonder to behold, and is alive and well, if napping. We are always napping until the last minute. Or are the gut-eaters, once the scourge of Manifest Destiny, not consigned to casinos, reservations, alcoholism, and obesity? Ask Nagasaki what it is like to pull on the dozing lion’s tail.

And we don’t need a majority or even a plurality of the wide-awake. We merely need a dedicated core. The bitches are already being corralled by casual and spontaneous action, as sites like these document. And the beta-appeasers/-collaborators are likewise being culled.

I don’t have to tell you that black/hispanic abortion-and-bastardy rates are taking care of themselves once they hook up with the left, who with deep compassion guarantee them access to the tools of self-genocide. The Amish and Mormons are closer to the fertility rates of the Haredi than to the urbanized Jew.

Like arrows in the hand of a warrior
Are the sons of one’s youth.
Happy is the man who has
His quiver full of them!
He shall not be put to shame
When he speaks with his enemies in the gate.

You dismiss us too quickly. Get out of New England. A Christian doctor I know has 11 children and a full-time homeschooling wife who is more conservative than he. You have figured out so much, but you have alienated yourself from the virtue of spes. Acquaint yourself again to the magical powers of the exponent.

A pagan revival is not in the cards, friend. Your choice is to ride down the abyss with the suckular humanists or reconcile yourself to the Fear of the Lord, whose “word that goes forth from [his] mouth shall not return to [him] empty.” As the good Fr. Lankaster Merrin says, “The power of Christ compels you.”

One day I or someone with better eyesight will have to collect your sermons in one place so they aren’t lost in the comments, for it cannot be questioned that they are literary gems.

But oratory glides over the hidden contours of reality as ships once cut their way across the ocean unaware of the mountains beneath the waves. There are forces at work much deeper than ethnic romanticism (Scots-Irish pugnacity) and long-dead state harvest cults (Spes).

These forces are intractable. Kinship is a centrifugal force in human behavior and once certain numerical thresholds are surpassed, that force loses momentum and leads to the stratification which is burying all of us under millions of muds.

I don’t have answers anymore. I’m not a sociologist like everyone else commenting on blogs. All I know is that whites aren’t sufficiently endogamous, i.e. present far too much genetic and ideological diversity, to do so little as vote in bloc, and that this problem came not from Jews, but from Europeans’ own ecological success and overshoot. (Of which European Jews are a symptom.)

This is a world system and it cannot be reversed. The West isn’t our heritage, it is a corpse on our backs. It isn’t something to be revered, it’s something to be thrown off — only we have nowhere to go except some desert land out west.

Poetry and myth are dead. Who has the Active Denial System? who has the full body armor and the crowd control weapons systems? who has the keys to the doors at that synthetic fertilizer plant in Alberta? who owns it? I have no fucking clue — but if you think some West Virginians with shotguns have more clout than men with that stuff under their command, you’re dreaming, buddy.

Civilization is so much bigger than this, it’s absurd to even have desires and preferences. It is absolutely laughable to lament the passing of the white majority once the ecological causes of it have been understood — not because it isn’t tragic, but because it’s far beyond the spot corrections of mere politics. And awareness isn’t even politics.

America is over. Americans will only be proud of being white if there is an European Nationalist revival. . . which is not crushed by America or the E.U. at birth.

Also, most whites in America see America as their country (wife) and are romantically enthralled by it, even Liberals who see Obama as a realisation of the American dream – the essence of their country – regardless of how ridiculous it is.

Blacks and Mexicans see America as a whore to be fucked and extract as many from it as they can. No kisses, no love, a bit of hate even if needed be.

Liberals don’t look to the elections and see what you see. Whites will never vote in bloc (unless you know what happens) because most liberals and degraded ones just think: Wow! Look! So many strangers agree with us! We’re definetly right.

Don’t ever think they will vote for their race when they don’t even imagine their race is in peril. You know, there are normal people out there, people who don’t think in a racial way.

For most of my life, racism was a sin.
We were all equal and my racism existed only in sexism, for I found African, Brazilian and Chinese women uncapable to make me desire or feel much about them as well… feminine entities.

While I was racist to non white girls, I wasn’t for non white guys because I didn’t understand their nationality could be put in question. I knew most of them behaved a little off, but that wasn’t racial,… I’m tired. You see what I’m talking about

There are people out there who are normal. That is, have not awaken yet to the racial question.

Love these posts but can you please explain your acronyms. HBD? what?! Happy Birthday?! You threw them out multiple times in another recent post or tweet – would help reader grasp the concept if they knew what the acronyms stood for.

Your horse is getting old, sway-backed, and tired… neither whites nor nonwhites seem to have much trouble identifying each other in the meat world.

The only entities that do have an issue are the FBI and other police departments, who often lump in a bunch of off-color mischlings and many hispanics as “white”, merely because they’re not purely negro in appearance and/or don’t identify themselves as such.

Racism is about sense of entitlement more than it is about how one treats others. Humans suck, and if there is no fear of pain, will mistreat one another. The excuse racists make for it is that because they were born of whatever ethnicity, they feel entitled to rule or mistreat others, class, intelligence, resources, or other important individual traits be damned.

It crosses the line when a lazy moron thinks he or she is better than or entitled to more than an industrious and intelligent person, or even another moron who just isn’t lazy.

So many people of many ethnicities would qualify, regardless of their rationalizations for a false sense of entitlement. The idea behind it is basically that this world owes you because of an accident of birth related to your color.

Our generation will continue to be cowed by mere words and the pursed lips of SWPL, or it will extinct itself. Once that choice is presented fully, which path do you think we will take? The warm euthanasia of PC platitudes, or the strength to say nigger again? A word, by the way, you employ with greater frequency than any single commenter here. Does that clue you in to anything?

You just got what your people most desire, and you desired with the insensate, animal intensity of 95-5 ratios. Blaming whitey for your congenital dysfunction is getting old. Rubbing it in to your pasty milquetoast allies, who hate themselves for your convenience, is a stupid, dangerous game. They will be willing cuckolds, sure, but the rest of us are inspired by such abject white prostration to fight at levels which exceed whatever marginal utility the traitors may have provided.

But then, avoiding the fights you can’t win has never been your people’s strong point. Which is why you are known to history as the ultimate slave people (how is that for “defining race”?). We don’t need your manual labor anymore, and we won’t bleed ourselves dry in the cause of liberating your servile asses again. So tread lightly. Your new masters will not be so forgiving as the ones that are passing.

Take the confession, “Racism implies a necessary impulse to hurt people of other races simply because they are of other races.” This confusion of masochism for sadism cannot continue. We just re-upped the HNIC. If he has any leadership skills whatsoever, he will parlay his position into the domination the SWPL fantasize about. But he is stupid, dysfunctional, and useless, the bastard son of a father he once met for 15 minutes and a browncock-hopping whore he likewise hardly knew. He is the cliché of the shiftless black deadbeat incompetent kicked upstairs and writ national, pimping his ride while his illegitimate spawn go without lunch money, ghettoizing the “last, best hope of the earth.”

The wreckage of his first term has already set your people back 50 years. His second term will make whatever hope you had to compete on our level unrecoverable. What do you think will happen when the next swarthy fellow stands for the highest office in the land? If you really think we are going to say, “Thank you, sir, may I have another?” you need to become acquainted with the whites who live outside of your deferential herb-circle.

But that’s why you frequent these sites, isn’t it? It’s the only way you will get a white man to say the truth in front of you, the truth that comports with the justified self-hatred buried deep where it can’t hurt you, which in your rare moments of clarity, you secretly suspect is accurate.

Scrumptious! Such eloquent…well, verbose utter impotence. “The wreckage of his first term has already set your people back 50 years.” Yees! Batshit delusion wrought by crushing cognitive dissonance of being told “you don’t matter and no one cares about your ideas” by the electorate while virtually living in an online echo chamber that says otherwise!

“the true Landlord of the planet is temporarily occupied with weightier issues”

Correction, the Landlord is never too occupied, as he can be occupied with endless maters and still be on top of every issues. It’s just that the Landlord has decided and decreed that it must be so. To what ends? We have to wait and see. But rest assured, He has a purpose and a reason for everything. Even for Barak Obama.

i>All your anscestors benefitted/made money off niggers; but they left you guys with the bill.

Bullshit as usual… if anything most of our ancestors had to pay the cost of having negroes in the same country… including the lives of some 600K white men, “bad sections” of cities, and general social costs both ante- and post-Jim Crow.

Only a tiny handful of plantation owners can have any “benefit” laid on their doorstep.

Now give this tired meme of Afrocentrism a rest as well. It’s been refuted too many times on this forum alone.

truth be told, we couldn’t stop white people from putting a nigger in the white house anymore than we could stop Lincoln from freeing the slaves

Whites voted against Obama 59-39%. White men? A twenty-seven point spread (62-35%). And this is based on exit polls that excluded Texas and fourteen other red states. Whites didn’t do this.

Your people’s non-thinking, reactive, slave mentality produces Stalinist 93-96% voting rates, which makes you the most useful idiots in American history. If your culture had a discerning thought in its head rather than lock-step paranoia, you would be political players rather than a servile constituency.

The margin of victory was less than three points. If you allowed even white-man levels of dissension (35%), it would be a four-point national swing and electoral loss, making swing-states light red and blue states purple.

I have no sympathy for self-hating SWPL either. But their 35% does not define what is “white man’s fault.” They happen to be positioned at the commanding heights of culture (press, entertainment, education, bureaucracy, urban politics, the mandarin class) and wield outsized influence. For the moment. Their advantage is the legacy of a fifty-year “march through the institutions,” and will only remain there so long as they can recruit more traitors to the cause.

Then again, we’ve got the guns:

And you’ve got the phones:

Which cohort would you bet on? A rickety-bare rainbow majority held together by federal lollipops and a cult of personality, or a substantial, armed minority of sober-minded and deadly men who don’t give a fuck that they are outnumbered? Your local chapter of Niggaz4Life or SEAL Team Six? If ever you were ready to betray your people à la the SWPL, now would be a good time. Your presence here and your relatively reasonable engagement (unlike some white commenters who regularly raise their reedy voices) indicate that you have some sense of the impending realignment.

The polarization of the 2008 election represents the high water mark of SWPL influence via the commanding heights, and the reelection only confirms the existential emergency for people like me. The first time could be explained away as white-guilt, a drunken lapse of judgment. This time we had four years to sober up and to survey the wreckage. Fool me once …

Do not discount the effect of hubris on our attitudes; do not underestimate what throwing the smallest bone to us would have done to allay or postpone our anger. But your incompetent cipher doesn’t have the most basic of political instincts — magnanimity after victory, even of the symbolic variety. We won nearly every election since 2008 to send the signal that we wanted a place at the table, was rebuffed every time, and had the stimulus, Obamacare, HHS and EPA regs, Justice Department overreaching, Supreme Court appointees and decisions, orgiastic debt spending, amnesty, bailouts, kickbacks, payoffs, tax hikes, and money printing shoved down our throat without the slightest hint that a 48% opposition exists.

You do not have an ear to the ground like I do, but reactions in places like this site should give you some idea of the nature of the iceberg. The 59+%-of-72+% (white rejection of Obama) numbers should give you an indication of its size. As Steve Sailer writes, “White Americans in the Obama Age are slowly, quietly getting a little tired of blacks.” The good news for you is that, because of your truth-seeking reading habits, you are one of the few who has received advance notice.

Thwack, your insecurities, fear and coping mechanism from this past election (your desire to use the word nigger repeadtly on this site, when you know you would NEVER say it in front of a black man) is heart-warming. I love you good brother nonetheless.

As one of the “blacks” (who thinks that this post by was VERY well written and TRUE) enjoy’s reading these types of comments. I encountered these same types of “truths” in the halls of Yale, Rice Univ and Harvard during my academic tenure. I laugh all the way to the bank as I continue a generational history of financial perpetuity, academic/intellectual excellence and unwavering desire for the ‘raw’ realities that white people think black people run away from soo much. Im not hear to race bait or battle tho. Some of my BEST buddies are White and I wouldnt have it any other way. I fuck hot white chicks when them and they fuck hot black chicks with me. We are constantly traveling and adding notches to our belts. Life is good.

“But he is stupid, dysfunctional, and useless…. He is the cliché of the shiftless black deadbeat incompetent kicked upstairs and writ national, pimping his ride while his illegitimate spawn go without lunch money, ghettoizing the “last, best hope of the earth.””

Winner: Hate-Filled Ad Hominem Attack of the Week.

Once you start name-calling, Matt, you’ve already lost the debate. A passing acquaintance with both rhetorical fallacies and numbers will really improve your persuasive skills.

Until then, you are Exhibit A of bloviation, the alpha (heh) and omega of Internet gasbaggery — despite your claims to the contrary.

Your finger-wagging might gain you points with the Huffington crowd, but it means nothing to men… so give it a rest, alphie-who-loves-to-snipe.

You ranting about King A reminds one of nothing so much as the ten year old who attempts to kick the shins of the local high school quarterback, to prove his boldness to the other little rascals in his He-Man-Rayciss-Haters-Club.

This post makes the dangerous mistake of positing that progress and change can be brought about through reason and argument. Open borders, an activist judiciary, affirmative action and most other abominations that fall under the label “liberalism” have never had widespread support. They have been enacted through the brute exercise of elite power through undemocratic channels and, to the extent numbers are needed, bribes to the lumpenproles. America is beyond redemption and has been for a couple of decades. The country has fallen so far that recovery would require the exercise of brute force such as that seen under the fascist and communist regimes of the last century – a task clearly beyond the fat, aging natives of the USA. Exchanges of words with the enemy will only be a waste of time, lead to frustration and invite retaliation from elites and the foreign hordes. Best to isolate yourself to the extent possible and when communicating to focus on manipulating your audience rather than educating them.

“It is an affront to my lying eyes. It is Orwellian in philosophy and practice. It is a humiliation, a personal slap in the face, to parade this stinking carcass of bullshit in front of me as if it is the Word of God and I should swallow it whole, for my own good you see.”

But then this post is a reply to those who think we should accept these lies on the basis that the truth would do no good even if accepted. That is yet another lie.

I don’t believe so. I saw a comment on some random blog a while ago that summarized this dilemma very elegantly: it was a woman who said that admitting these truths would “hurt feelings and probably result in violence”. That is completely true. Imagine if the elites, i.e. Jews and goyish abettors, all woke up tomorrow and decided to go 180 on their lies — admit that blacks are a sunk cost, chain immigration is an immense disaster, that they themselves are responsible, etc. How do you suppose millions and millions of resident non-whites would react?

UNPRECEDENTED CHIMP-OUTS BRAH! And to put it down would require balls American authorities DO NOT POSSESS. They would if we chimped out – the wonder of altruistic punishment – but no way they would placate mass darkie uprisings if suddenly everyone began telling the truth.

What the lies of the Jews and the left reflect is what every pathology of denial reflect: the ANXIETY of being unable to deal with the consequences of acknowledging the TRUTH of one’s situation.

Moreover, EVEN IF EVERYONE, TOMORROW, ADMITTED THE OBVIOUS, we could not as a society “come together” to correct it. The problem is TOO BIG TOO CORRECT. It has grown beyond the confines of the socially corrigible into proportions fit for history textbooks.

There is no going back and no correcting it. For all our loathing of the Big Lie, there is nothing to be done about it. Unless you can point to a few thousand men who would be willing to forcibly segregate blacks, repatriate latinos, and neutralize native demographics who work against the former American majority. Who possess military tech currently in possession of precisely the latter.

This whole post could be summed in one sentence: Leftists have no use for the truth because it doesn’t serve their purposes. I have been saying it for a long time. It’s nothing new for me.

People who value the truth, have a hard time putting up with Leftist lies. My loathing and hate for the Left has increased by 100 fold in the last 2 years. The Left and I cannot co-exist. In fact, no society could exist on lies. It’s how empires collapse. The Left often says that there is no such thing as absolute truth to justify its malleability and distortion of it. But like anything else in the universe, if it can be proven mathematically, it means it exists. I can prove mathematically that absolute truth exists, which means that absolute truth is not open to interpretation. Any simple mathematical equation that has a definite solution is proof that absolute truth exists.

But, the left has nothing sacred. It will sacrifice anything to win – cheat in elections, spread false information, suppress information, or change information in order to win. They used to do this all the time in Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. They changed facts as needed to bring about their desired results. A society can’t survive when absolute truth gets distorted. Every distortion brings about the destruction of the original.

“3. Discouraging dysgenics, i.e. not subsidizing single motherhood through welfare, regardless of disparate impact on minorities. See #1.”

Is not possible that some forms of single motherhood may be eugenics?

Let me explain, single motherhood often comes when the girl doesn’t find a high-status guy (alpha, which presumably has good genes) to commit, so it is a strategy that can be used by such women when they don’t need a man to provide, any thoughts?

There won’t be any significant ground made on HBD. A few studies sure, but anything groundbreaking will get swept under the rug. Why? Very simple:

Xenophobia

People, in general, just don’t prefer people of other races to their own. This is a tale as old as time. Sure we can function, with some degree of success and peace in a mixed society, but there will ALWAYS be resentment of sorts. You can even be friends, lovers, and long term partners with members of other races, but the resentment will still be there. Maybe not from you towards each other, but towards other members of the race or a generalization thereof. It’s not about superiority or inferiority, no one is best at everything, but – xenophobia.

So you see, even if you came to some conclusions about how to make different races function ‘optimally’ in mixed environments, it wouldn’t change a thing. All it would cause is riots and bloodshed.

Truth is preferable to lies because reality exists. The West has competitors, and enemies (China and Islam, respectively). The West faces formidable challenges, and operating on lies is like trying to reach America from Spain thinking the world is flat. Operating on Truth is scientific, operating on lies is religious dogma.

And to the extent the West is or becomes a blending of liberal ideology with a gene pool consisting of the the dregs of the most primitive 3rd world nations, why should one prefer “the West” over China or Islam?

And, as it’s Veterans’ Day… here’s a true story of a heroic veteran and a woman who was “not haaapy” despite marrying with her eyes open (of course, you’re a judgemental “misogynist” if you think she’s a no good tramp… integrity and being a loyal spouse are so oppressive, you know).

“The rumor had spread to Fallujah, Iraq in early 2005 that some of the wives of our unit had been caught running a brothel on our home base in Hawaii. … When we finally came home it turned out the story was true; many of those wives had fled and spent the deployment money as well.”

I have raised HBD topics in one of the most liberal universities in the country, as a paid instructor. I have NOT been shut down or been told my approach was offensive.

Rather than emphasize the downside, take the approach of Cochrane and Harpending. Ask: how is it that Ashkenazi Jews have an average IQ of 115, one standard deviation above the norm? Few people will get offended when you discuss their theory, since shaming whites is par for the course, and Ashkenazis have the highest average IQ in the world. The explanation given is that medieval restrictions on fields Jews could pursue (only moneylending and other intellectual fields) selectively bred Jews for intelligence.

Once they have swallowed this pill, this seed, go no further. If living conditions for medieval Jews could selectively breed for intelligence, any curious person will naturally wonder: what else selectively breeds for intelligence (I think urban living does, and that Africa, being hospitable and fertile in much of the ancestral range of the human race, does not require much effort for subsistence, and so did not select for intelligence. Given enough centuries of urban living, and no support via welfare, I have no doubt that Africans would rise in average IQ.)? That one idea that they accept (because they have to), initiates the liberal self-destruct sequence.

Liberia was a country for freed slaves. See how nice white people were? Hence Liberia from liberty, why the Liberian flag looks like the US one, and the capital Monrovia for president James Monroe. Of course once they got it, they kept fucking it up over and over again. Thanks HBD!

“See: The entire reason Liberia fell apart.” No, the reason it fell apart is it is full of Liberians with an average IQ of 65. That “wave of foreigners” were Americo-Liberians that comfortably ruled the country for over a century.

“Like it or not you are stuck with blacks.” I bet they said the same thing in India with the Muslims. How did that work out? Oh that’s right, they created Pakistan instead for them…

Got to be for schadenfreude at this point since the entire “enlightened racism” blogosphere was rendered irrelevant at 11:18 pm est 11/6/12. I’m partial to the doom & gloom soothsaying from the position of zero power. “You’ll be sorry!” Heh heh, k.

Your ilk chides whites for “RAYCIZM!!!!” and then you prove racism works by the way negroes, hispanics, and Jews pretty much vote en block… one of the more obvious manifestations of racism… thereby securing elections… with the aid, of course, of braindead white useful idiots, brainwashed fellow travelers, and multifarious shabbos goyim.

We should segregate. That doesnt mean them drinking out of black water fountains. That means complete total separation from white people. Secede them a few states and let them run it themselves. If they turn it into a hellhole that’s their problem. Blacks have shown time and time again they hate white people despite the fact they are given welfare, affirmative action, and housing.

Blacks and whites are simply too different for us to ever live together peacefully.

1. 22 year old stats?
2. The question, gentle reader, is not what percentage of welfare recipients are black, but what percentage of blacks are welfare recipients. Observe: Only 13% of air-breathing Americans are black. But 100% of blacks are air breathers.

Using your numbers, there are 47 million people on food stamps, and 33% of those are black. 43,000,000×0.33= 14.3 million.
US population = 311,000,000 x 13% = 40 million.
14/40 = 35% of blacks on welfare.

Same ol’ tired canard: “Neener-neener, there are more WHITE people on welfare, tee hee!”

Fool, the point is/was/remains in percentages of population and the likelihood of being saddled with non-producers.

If negroes are only 13% of a population, but cost a host population one-third of the social welfare programs, well… what does that tell you, smartass?

And btw, don’t forget that an awful lot of those alleged “whites” are various forms of mischlings and various hispanics that are either not overtly dark “negro-looking” and/or don’t identify themselves as such on the forms.

That’s disproportionate to % of population–250% of demographic representation for blacks (assuming blacks are ~13% of overall US population) and 85% of white representation (wikipedia says the US is 72% white). Does that affect your position?

Jason, respectful disagreement here. The disproportionate stats speak to–for all to see–a deep and fundamentally unaddressed problem in the way we structure our policies based on our views of who needs help and why. It’s only politic to bring this up in the context of why white privilege is keeping minorities from achieving their potential, and alternate plausible explanations (which have real policy implications) are ignored. The absolute numbers matter little in that debate. cheers,

You are all morons. Welfare destroys whatever community receives it. It doesn’t matter if blacks are properly represented in the “fucked up completely” category. Either way we have a huge number of women using welfare in place of husbands.

Dumbass!! How many of the “white” are Mexicans?? You mean the leftover 6% encompassess the beaners?? What about Asians and Afficans and Hasidic jewboys??(Even in 1990 6% covers everybody who aint so-called white??that sound s awfully low;imagine what theyre gtting today??)LOL!You’re out of your fucking mind. And what constitiutes “weffare”? A white who–because we got a nigger President–has to resort to $40.00 in Foo stamps,while a corresponding nigger has been on weffare his whole life,getting everything from moms pre-natal care to schoo lunches to EBT to a bus card to “financial aid” in schoo and “make work” jobs and God knows what else?? What about the Black middle Clas,that bastion of achievement? Mainly niggers getting gummint jobs where they are highly paid to do shit.

Bryan
We should segregate. That doesnt mean them drinking out of black water fountains. That means complete total separation from white people.
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We already tried that in Planet of the Apes– remember the “Forbidden Zone?” We had it all set up perfectly, God fearing Apes on one side, mutant, poisoned sick twisted walkin up out of ground zero white man on the other side.

The separation will occur. It is already occurring. Or do you see white people in Baltimore, Detroit, Philadelphia, or any of the many other fine fourth-world monuments to minority self-governance? If you are still too squeamish to talk about race then forget white people: have you seen any Republicans in these places for the last half-century? The two classifications — white + GOP — are swiftly merging out of self-defense. Self-defense against what? See the percentages quoted above.

The separation will occur between red states and blue states, because that is the already established federalist system for consolidating minority power. Also known as, “Going Galt.” It is easier than ever to achieve this separation because our labor is more mobile than ever and less dependent on geography than ever. The internet works just as well in North Dakota as it does in New York City.

If the Californian, Mexican, Marylander, and rich SWPL locusts will descend on the free but now purpling states of, respectively, Nevada, New Mexico, Virginia, and New Hampshire/Colorado/Montana, the whites fleeing blue states will redden them right back. We have to go somewhere to protect ourselves from the coastal collapse and to insulate ourselves from the coming bailout requests. Mexifornia alone has $800B in debt, and they just raised taxes on themselves: sane people are fleeing at the rate of 1,000 a week while refugees are arriving in the Republic of Texas at 1,000 a week. Blue states = PIIGS; red states = Northern Europe.

The only question is whether we can achieve robust separation in time to reject the inevitable call for bailouts. Everything depends on leaving Blue America to its own devices and forcing those who “sow the wind” to “reap the whirlwind” alone. Insofar as we achieve federalist separation — through the House, Senate, and Pleading the Tenth — we will have gotten the wealth producers onto a lifeboat, rather than letting the sodomites and parasites take us down with them.

But you know that you lose the part of your territory for good? And you would be at peace with it?
Economic consequences of it would be horribille i mean all of the resources, that whites now run in these states, would became like Zimbabwean nightmare, and 10 new borders and border taxes would be enacted. These semi – failed states might be in constant conflict, sending few millions of refugees every 10 or less years to red states.
Terrorist heavens would be made in your backyard instead of Pakistan.
With such a segregation America would have became a great power instead of superpower that is now, and If other rival like Russia arises again, those movies of Russian invasion wouldn’t look so dumb as they look now(you would have lost the acsess to pacific)
But better than that, you would have done something that Mexico has been waiting for very long time. Removal of American direct control over Mexico’s former terittories, left with the overwhelming Latino population, waiting to incorporate themselves into the Great Mexico…

But there is also another way segregation may be done; example of South African Batustans, and Palestinian territories, which are considered to be failures, but much less dangerous than totally abandoning the whole states…

Segregation on such a scale is a last resort, that should be even than considered twice.

By the way the most white states of the civil war era north are mostly blue, what to do of this? Where would you put Maine, Massachusetts, and Vermont alike? You think they will turn red, if segregation happens?

I’ve have you know that the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action were white women. The biggest population of people on Welfare is white people AND the notion of public house is European (historically) and was embraced by white people long before public housing was dominates by minorities (which it currently is. See that? Truth. I could admint that) If we our quest is one in truth, we must seek it all all costs. The things you mention have been “framed” as minority problems/entitlements/handouts but the reality is quite the contrary.

Some of my best buddies were and are white and I wouldnt have it any other way. We bang all KINDS of HOT chicks together and the shit is awesome.
I dont HATE anybody, unless they PERSONALLY give me reason to.
Stop forecasting your narrowmindedness onto the masses.

If you look at HBD as some sort of vindication for White people, then maybe, but if you look at it as a science, then no.

Here’s some hard truth most people here aren’t ready to deal with. This may go over as well as when I first brought up the idea of natural dieting here, but oh well. If it’s about truth, people need to know. Here goes…

The people with the money are and have always been believers in HBD. They’ve conducted their own social experiments since long ago, and have become very well settled with the idea that they are different from the rest of humanity for genetic reasons.

In grand revolutions, ruling elite are overthrown with much fanfare and bloodshed, but in the end it is very clear that the battle was never really for the people at large. It has been for many centuries, a battle between ruling elite, quite often some upstarts who felt entitled to rule on merit, overthrowing the former legacy elite. There’s a saying, “It doesn’t matter who rules. Nothing changes for the poor.”

All of the non elites are just tools, and they’re organizing us how ever it is most advantageous for them. No matter what you do, unless you have the charisma and resources to overthrow or evade them, you are at their mercy. If you make a big enough stink about how you’re being arranged before you have the ability to do either, they will eliminate you.

So those of you who are not happy with the way things are have some choices to make.

Do not believe that those in charge believe the lies they tell you. They just tell you things to keep you blinded to the fact that they know exactly what they’re doing and why.

Barack Obama believes in HBD. His mom probably did too. Note that quite a few people in certain circles breed for a certain quality. If you can’t see past color/ethnicity in this, it’s because if you did, you would be more powerful, and they don’t want you to be. So you don’t. They divide us up by irrelevant traits that they don’t give a crap about except for presentation, so the underlings take that presentation and those divisions seriously as if they are meaningful.

It’s kind of funny until the bombs start falling. Then, as it felt some years ago with the ground shaking and windows nearly breaking from an impact near my home, it’s hilarious.

IIRC, Mr. Obama’s mom was some sort of Hippie-type chick, so she just tried to get as far away as she possibly could from anything and everything even vaguely similar to what her folks had or wanted, but without leaving the friendly confines of Theeshe Yoo-Nited Shatesh. She found that in a Black guy in Hawaii. There is no better way to take ‘revenge’ on dad for whatever he may or may not have done wrong. The resulting presidency is mostly based on Chicago mob connections.

Wolfie, you’re partly right, but you have to try to think outside the box, or rather without boxes. “There is no spoon.”

Ethnicity is an excellent filter. When you’re doing what is expected or demanded of you by normal societal standards, you’re in the middle of the herd trying to pick the most dominant sheep. If you are not interested in sheep, you have to step outside the herd.

If you had any idea what it is like to be a person who thinks differently, you would say the same words without the sarcasm, and without groupings. Her goal was to breed up, period. If that meant that it would take crossing normal ethnic boundaries to do so, and especially in an age when mixing could be politically advantageous, then so be it. She had less than a 1% chance of even encountering a suitable male who would fit the qualifications, be attracted to her, and not completely broken.

The day I realized I think differently, I could never allow myself to “breed down” with men who couldn’t make the cut. Imagine what I would be like if my biological father, from whom I most likely got the magic combination of genes, had a hand in my upbringing…

Before one has words for these things, much happens by instinct. The wiring is much more powerful than people give credit. One does things they don’t entirely understand until they’re done. However, when one does have words for it, and a history of it in the family, one knows exactly what they’re doing and why, and this would account for a fair proportion of people currently at a certain class, and those who are on their way up.

Sorry, but you’re even fuller of beans than usual, and that’s saying a lot.

She was, like someone already noticed, a dumb, rebellious teenage slut who was looking to piss off daddy… the type is typical, and we see it in even greater numbers today.

If she were truly aware of the concept of “breeding up”, she’d have tried harder to find a man who would stick around… or at least stuck around herself long enough to raise her own high yellow spawn, instead of depositing it in the laps of Midwest mom and dad while she continued her Tales Of The (Deep) South Pacific.

Unconscious Marxist claptrap. Economy is not destiny. Class is not essence.

Freud, Darwin, Marx. If only you maleducated postmodernists could escape their indirect influence, you might occasionally have something true to say. But you don’t even know what you don’t know, and you assume there are no other ways to take the measure of men. Those three stooges are the brain cancer of the republic.

Materialist determinism never took over our country the way it did to a third of the world in the 20th century. Instead we sublimated it into our pursuit of truth, imagining these philosophasters’ musings to be as solid as the laws of physics.

Return to the classics or be slaves forever to defunct thinkers. Their poison is in the water. Their lies choke the air. Even a born truthteller like CH is hobbled by this disease. The rest of you faded facsimiles are intellectually terminal.

Not sure what it has to do with boxes or sheep, but based on my observations, White chicks hooking up with Black guys almost always goes back to either issues she has with her family, primarily her dad, or the fact that the Black guy has drugs.
You can’t teach a rabbit to be a lion, but BunBun the rabbit would routinely and fearlessly jump right over the nose of Stevie Ray, the half wild Husky.

“based on my observations, White chicks hooking up with Black guys almost always goes back to either issues she has with her family, primarily her dad, or the fact that the Black guy has drugs.”

That’s what I notice too, it’s usually issues with her family, as well as weak self-respect and self-identity. She identifies with blacks like the Stockholm syndrome. That’s why they always start dressing like they’re part of the hood. In other words, she isn’t a “good girl.” Oh, let’s just say it already: Barak Obama’s mother was a whore. Who got pregnant out of wedlock back then, and from a black guy too? A major whore. Nuff said!

Of course class is not essence, but “essence” will determine whether or not one will stabilize within a class or be able to raise their status.

Tautology.

An individual’s politics either is determined by economic class or it isn’t. Your fixation on who is exploiting whom is straight out of Lenin’s cynical and self-serving playbook. It is essentially a denial of the human will, which not coincidentally, makes a res publica impossible and a “dictatorship of the downtrodden” inevitable.

You need to examine your premises more deeply. But you’re in luck: I’m here to help.

King, I don’t deny the human will. I’m saying that some people’s will is stronger than others. People with stronger wills dominate. It’s what they’re born to do.

Though some of my beliefs about human nature may be similar in some ways to Lenin or Marx, in that I believe that there is class struggle, I come to very different conclusions as to what should be done to create a better society. I would rather the ruling type of people rule, but have enough flexibility that the inhumane/socially stupid can be easily pruned from the elite, and the stronger willed and smart from the underclasses can be given a way up the ranks. Many cultures managed this well on a small scale. Few have managed to do this well on a large scale.

I do not believe that the destruction of class is a good thing…or even a possible thing. I just think that the higher ups should feel more obligation to take care of the people instead of running them into the ground.

Steve Sailer wrote a weird post about BHO’s mother taking him to see a nigger movie,and how weirded out BHO got as his mom got turned on by the black actors–right in front of him.I dont think this bitch fucked niggers to adhere to some kind of political philosophy,I think it was the other way around. She fucked nggers–and built her philosophy around THAT. Did she hate her father;yes,he probably engaged in some “extra-curricular” activity with her. What a tragedy she died of cancer of the ladyparts at 50 something. I am sure it had NOTHING to do with all the black cock sliding around in there!!

Affirmative action works on the premise that disadvantaged groups are disadvantaged because of past treatment, and given proper advantages, they can contribute to society on par with non-disadvantaged groups.

If this was true, eventually non-disadvantaged groups would also be lumped into the category “white,” much like the Irish, Portuguese, and Italians are in the USA.

You can answer both of those Boo. It just amazes me that foreign immigrants, 1st or 2nd generation Americans, can come to our country and make it big without government handouts yet the blacks in our country, for the most part (yes, there are exceptions) continue to have the victim mentality. I wonder at what point will they get tired of playing the victim card and actually get out of the hood. I’ve had talks with different black coworkers who spout off “whites held my family back blah blah blah….you don’t know nothing about being poor cuz your white” which is the exact opposite of my life. My family was poor as dirt as a child and I swore I didnt want to live like that so I did well in high school and joined the military so I could go to college.

“I’ve had talks with different black coworkers who spout off “whites held my family back blah blah blah….you don’t know nothing about being poor cuz your white”

They are HUGE racists and so jealous too. They think whites made it on their backs.

“My family was poor as dirt as a child and I swore I didnt want to live like that so I did well in high school and joined the military so I could go to college.”

Thy have no vision, conviction, or sprit to succeed. All they want is handouts because they are the most lowly lacking-respect type of people. Whites, on the other hand, are self-starters, self-helpers.

Never, bro. I promise you that. The commitments run too deeply, psychologically and materially. To cut losses now would result in upheavals no one wants to contemplate. They will be victims right up to the point where they are a racial majority, lynching us in the streets, and still accusing us of oppression, privilege, and so on.

Two out of three already being the case. Meantime, lateral integration via miscegeny and proximity bonding will increase, deranging new crops of poor whites.

What Alex Linder wrote years ago — “Stop kicking me!, says the Jew as he kicks you,” — was not a joke.

There is no escape from this as a ‘race’. White lineages will go on, but white civilization is clinically dead from the standpoint of demography.

The United States is not Europe.
However, it may be a time when all we have is the Russian Empire, with Poland and Romania and whatnot.

Like the Roman Empire vanished from the earth due to the barbarian invasions. But continued for another thousand years in Greece.
Leaving time for Western Europe to revigorate itself after the barbarous invasions.

@Nicole – I know it isn’t popular in online forums to use real world observations – anecdotal evidence – because online peeps prefer statistics.
My dad worked with statistics for the better part of 40 years and said that if you can talk a good game, you can take ANY statistic and spin it in such a way that it proves your agenda and the exact opposite at the same time.
My observations may be limited to what I see around me, what I read about, what I see on TV , but they are frighteningly often extremely accurate.
Which is bad. I would LOVE to be wrong quite often.

@thwack – White guys hooking up with Asian chicks usually either can’t get White girls (nerd, old, fug, etc.) or they labor under the extremely popular misinformation that Asian girls are ‘traditional’ , meaning demure little housewifey slave types. The rude awakening happens as soon as she learns enough English to actually talk to him. Can’t recall ever meeting an Asian chick who wasn’t a drillsergeant in disguise.

White gilrs do indeed hook up with Black guys because they are Black. The girl hates her dad/family and wants to make DAMN sure daddy has a heart attack and NONE of her offspring look anything even close to any of her relatives. For at least 4-5 generations.
If they can’t find a Black guy, sometimes a Latino, Arab or other non-White guy will do.
Credit?
Sure.
Some of the top NBA guys have a 40″+ vertical leap. That would come in awful handy in skateboarding.

@Nicole – I know it’s unpopular in online forums to use personal observations of reality rather than statistics. Comes with the territory.
My dad worked with statistics for the better part of 40 years and said that if you can talk a good game, you can take ANY statistic and use it to prove WHATEVER you want it to say – and the exact opposite, all at the same time.
I’ll go with what I see around me in real life, what I read, what I see on TV, etc.
It leads to frighteningly accurate conclusions.

@thwack – White guys who go for Asian girls usually do so either because they can’t get any White girls (too fat/fug/old/nerdy, etc.) or because they labior under the false mythical assumption that Asian women are somehaow more ‘traditional’, meaning the 1950’s demure housewifey slave type.
Which is bullshit, as they are sure to discover as soon as she learns enough English to tell him what’s what.
Can’t recall ever having come across an Asian chick who wasn’t a drill sergeant in disguise.

White girls who hook up with Black guys do indeed do so because the guy is Black.
The girl hates her dad/family with a burning passion (for reasons real or imagined) and is willing to do ANYTHING to make DAMN sure none of offspring will look anything like the rest of her family for many generations to come. Or sh’s’ just a druggie, and is fully aware of the fact that she has a MUCH better chance of scoring a steady supply of blow in the Black community than anywhere else.
Or both.
You want credit?
Sure.
Some of the top NBA guys have a 40″+ vertical leap.
That would come in mighty handy in skateboarding.

1. While at West Point, Petraeus banged & married the daughter of the West Point dean. Pretty alpha.

2. Men in alpha positions surrounded by younger women will eventually bang them.

3. The Broadwell chick is described as “high-achieving”. Military background, could out-pushup men, triathlete, multiple degrees, PhD. Proves the research that shows smart, degreed women make poor wives.

Even with 2 kids at home and a radiologist hubby making $500,000, her high testosterone drove her to seek out an alpha guy (i.e., become his “biographer”) and insert Petraeus “All In” into her vagina.

Dishonorable is leaving a wife. Sustaining a caring relationship while discreetly fucking a woman whose vagina can still get wet is the right thing to do. Of course doing it while you are Director of the CIA is not discreet.

You’d be amazed how many military wives look like this after a couple of years. They’re all fat. I think they let themselves go early and often because they know their husbands aren’t going to leave them. Military guys tend to be more conservative, loyal and idealistic than your typical American guy. Takes a lot more to break one of them in a relationship. And for Petraeus to marry his sweetheart right out of West Point…

This whole thing makes total sense to me. Even if the release of the information was (more than likely) politically motivated.

Update on what I wrote below, Petraeus is truly a beta male, despite being the only American general to ever win two wars (MacArthur wasn’t allowed to win the Korean War). Not only was his mistress twenty years older than a four star general could have gotten, but the FBI was legitimately upset that, when the 39 year old mistress rejected him last year, he spent the past year begging her to come back to him.

Obama may have left our men to die in Benghazi, but if the reports are true, the CIA director who may have the goods on him was also a “Begging Beta” who’d been rejected by what would have to be the mother of any girl I’d date (and I’m his age).

OK dude, when you’re sixty and banging someone hotter than Paula Whatzerface, I’m sure you’ll be sure to come back and let us know, right?

Youth isn’t everything. I mean, I’m 32 and can’t imagine myself wanting to spend time with a 20-year-old girl any more. When I’m sixty I won’t even want to interact with 20-year-olds as employees, much less as partners, because 20-year-olds are pretty fucking stupid. (I know I was, when I was 20…)

I can’t blame him for cheating on his wife; she looks horrid. Who would sleep with that is beyond me. But my problem is with the mistress. The bitch is married, so as far as I am concerned she is off limits.

Anyway, I don’t get why she cheated on her husband, I don’t believe for a second the general is Alpha. Her husband is much younger and better looking man, and the general is a much older man who is so thin he looks like a cigarette match. Plus he worked in the Obama white house; that’s no Alpha. I would have respected him much more had he resigned. He looks so retarded when he smiles too. I don’t get this witch. She is just a horny slut looking for some action from anyone with a cock.

“and the general is a much older man who is so thin he looks like a cigarette match”
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Come on nitebily, you know good and well that a mans agency ain’t his looks. Stop pretending to be confused. Being a general is TOTALLY alpha. Everywhere you go guys snap to attention, salute you, address you as “sir”… plus, even at 60 Im sure he could run circles around your fat husband.

Lol “Plus he worked in the Obama white house; that’s no Alpha.” Oh, so being a 5-star general leading an army of men means nothing as far as alpha-cred. A beta could easily pull off such a feat, right? Silly, if you ask me.

She must be minimum 25 years younger if you’re stupid enough to marry.You have been warned.

And the general was clearly beta for getting only a 39 year old as a lover. If he was going to cheat, it could have been with someone still in her 20s, even at his age if he knew what game was, and there didn’t have to be much of an electronic paper trail like I hear there was..

As director of the CIA, you don’t need to be in a position to be blackmailed, either by foreign powers or….

the Obama administration.

This, boys, clears Petraeus to be able to tell the truth in the Benghazi hearings in Congress coming up.

If the left was stupid enough to bring Petraeus down this way, they were calculating that the religious right would start to hate him. The old ladies on the right would make sure of that. This, Obama’s people would hope, would hurt his credibility about Benghazi.

That’s why the small l libertarian faction of the Republican Party needs to take control and sideline the religious freaks. Imagine politics where everyone on the right could give fuck all if an alpha male had more than one woman (after all, all men with power have or can have harems).

Re; the kind of girl to have an affair with if you have to cheat on your wife. Don’t listen to the media when they tell you what “normal” is. Let’s look at a popular television series.

Most would have seen the Walking Dead series on AMC. Some might think the show promotes manliness and alpha behavior. Maybe it does but within feminist-approved limits. In the second episode, one of the two male leaders beats a man almost to death for having an argument with his wife. Is that type of screenwriting good for male teenagers to watch?

But the worse aspect of the series is that men are not shown to be interested in females 10 years younger nor women in male leaders 10 years older.

In the first season the main leader’s (Rick’s) best friend Shane is running a camp of survivors while they all think Rick is dead. In the camp is at least one really hot 19 year old girl who is a million times better looking than Rick’s wife of the same age (around thirty) who has clearly hit the wall.

So who does Shane have the affair with? His best friend’s wife. The 19 year old is completely ignored by the screenwriters until she is bit by a zombie.

In the second season, the young adult old farmer’s daughter never notices the 4 tough male leaders of the group but her eyes grow wide when the former pizza delivery boy shows up on the farm. She starts to seduce him. The tough late twenties and early thirties male leaders and warriors pay no attention to her at all. They never glance at her butt or breasts. She’s the territory of the skinny young Asian beta male. Take this interaction

Her: (see he accidentally put a box of condoms into his hand) Condoms? Do you have a gf around here I don’t know about or are you just a really confident guy?
Him: (totally embarrassed and speechless stuttering that he didn’t know he had them in his hand and would never think of having sex with her)
Her: What’s the matter? I’m not hot enough for you?
Him: Oh no, I didn’t mean that.
Her: Well, I’ll have sex with you.
Him: You will? Why?
Her: Well, it’s not as if there’s much choice in these hard times

The screenwriters, besides pretending that hot women will seduce betas, were saying that the actual warriors in the group of survivors didn’t qualify for a woman that young and hot because they were all around 10-15 years older.This kind of screenplay is hardly an incentive for American men to build civilization and become successful 30 year olds. It says the best women you’ll ever get are when you are a pizza delivery boy.

The third season just started and it features an evil leader of another group called the Governor who controls a walled town full of attractive living women.

In the latest episode, the camera hovers over how this 40 year old man has a 19 year old asleep in his bed.

While the show makes it clear that these women are all voluntarily his fans, they make it clear that he is evil and hateful for wanting to have such fans and getting them.

The producers of the show really implied that male viewers in America would despise this character more for having what seems to be a 10 in his bed. We are supposed to be filled with hate for this character based on his sexual tastes.

And that is why American men can think the 39 year old mistress of one of the most powerful men in the world is hot.

Never seen the show you are referring to, but that’s irrelevant.
TV shows and Hollywood movies have about as much in common with actual daily reality as a jelly fish has in common with a giraffe. Sadly, many, if not most, Americans are addicted to media crap, sometimes I wonder if they preceive anything as real that doesn’t happen on a screen.
The media’s portrayal of men (White men in particular) as brainless, dickless, wimpy, clueless milquetoast losahs goes back at least 40-some-odd years. The portrayal of women as smart, capable, in-charge multitasking heroines maybe about 15-20.
Where are these women in real life?
No idea.
You will NEVAH see a guy in his 40’s with a 19-year old hottie on screen, at least not in America. Not unless he’s some kind of eevil villain about to rape her, right before she’s saved from a Fate Worse Than Death by the muscular, highly intelligent, MIA-educated Navy Seal Black hero who wants to be ‘Friends First’ because he’s sooooo sensitive……And 6’8.
Ever notice how ‘teenagers’ in US TV shows are played by actors in their mid-20’s to early 30’s?
That’s because the perfect American Walt Disney Little House On The Prairie childhood lasts until you’re about 25 or so and you are (presumed) ‘innocent’ until then. Can’t drink, can’t fuck, can’t do nuttin’ but collect Barbie’s frickin’ dream house accessories from Toys R Us.
Realism?
Dunno where it went.
The screenwriters do have a point to some extent.
Based on my experiences and observations, women ages 16-55 are after guys ages 16-25.
Guys over 30 are garbage as far as they’re concerned.
If the only young buck available is a Chinese Pizza boy, so be it.
Provided he’s tall, of course.
And most of the Useless Old Fucks (= the guys over 30, see above) have been cowed and browbeaten into hurriedly averting their eyes should any attractive young female ( anyone under 30 being a ‘child’…..) be anywhere near them. Thou Shalt Not Look. You touch – You Die.
I see them at the clubs all the time, those old guys who are standing and staring with their tongues dragging on the floor when some tight 22-year old hottie shakes it on the dance floor. Who do they hit on? The 35 – 55-year old cougars who have eyes only for the 22-year old bartenders/fire fighters/ football players.
With predictable results.
Then they go home, defeated yet again and whack off to internet porn.

Blacks and other non-caucasians are noble simply for being non-caucasians

while whites are bad people unless they are gay, female ( preferably females having sex with non-caucasians ) or a white man if and ONLY if he does something selfless for a non caucasian

They are unwatchable.

almost all of those tv shows and movies have the same not so subtle messages to brainwash us into believing whites are born bad and blacks are born noble.

I can not stand it anymore.

My girlfriend dragged me to ” Cloud Atlas” and it was exactly that; whites are bad unless they are gay, female etc…and blacks are noble.
in that movie blacks have the most advanced civilization while whites are primitive like cavemen.

the only I was able to survive that horrible 3 hours long movie was to pretend I was not there

I can not stand the relentless endoctrination embedded in most tv shows and most movies

Eh, you’re sort of assuming that he made an active decision to go out looking for fresh pussy. In that case yes, no reason to bang a 39 year old. But I doubt he woke up one day and decided to cheat on his wife; rather, I expect that proximity, convenience and availability just led to him fall into bed with Broadwell. You can’t deny that she’s still attractive at her age (especially compared to his wife), even if someone who’s actively on the prowl might aim even higher.

Not sure how relevant the observation is, but they are both high-IQ alumni of West Point, most grads of which (The Long Gray Line) bond more tightly with one another than do alumni of more conventional schools, and, like many ring knockers, they were both also competively, even obssesively, committed to physical fitness. Petreaus routinely allowed his far younger, enlisted men to challenge him in running or other types of contests, such as the standard pushups, situps, or pull-ups, and was rarely bettered.

FTR, I adamantly disapprove of admitting women to USMA. I also believe Petreaus’ indoctrination as a cadet in the USMA Social Studies Department and later in his tax-funded graduate studies at Princeton as regards “international relations” contributed to his willing servitude as a political functionary to an agenda far removed from that of defending the sovereignty of his country or the Constitutional principles which, upon his commission as a 2nd Lt, he swore to defend.

Regarding west point, it’s considered the best school in the country now. Not only it’s a state university so the tuition is a bit lower, but WestPoint is the best education you can buy right now, considered better than Harvard or other Iv leagues. Unfortunately, even West Point is being overtaken by the liberals.

“I also believe Petreaus’ indoctrination as a cadet in the USMA Social Studies Department and later in his tax-funded graduate studies at Princeton as regards “international relations” contributed to his willing servitude as a political functionary to an agenda far removed from that of defending the sovereignty of his country or the Constitutional principles which, upon his commission as a 2nd Lt, he swore to defend.”

He’s been liberalized and leftizied by his education, there is no doubt about it. I am sure he took conflict resolution course, which are the worst liberal offenders. Nothing embodies the liberal mindset better than what they teach in those conflict resolution courses. It’s all run according to programs of ex-state department negotiators, which spells LOSERS.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but there’s no tuition at West Point… you either get in (through achievement and the recommendation of a representative) or you don’t. In return, you give the Army a minimum of six years of service when you graduate. Technically-speaking, you’re a soldier the minute you step foot into its hallowed halls.

Thet fucked up security wise and the Ambassador and others were killed. Is this earth-shaking? It’s a fuckup. You work for state in a nation of cave men, you may get killed. Regrettable and actionable. People just have a hard-on for Barry.

The resident Lefty. So let me guess, your dear leader is going to blame this general for Libya, eh? Is that what you read in the communists talking points? Did you read that it’s why he had to resign, as Obama is now blaming him for amusing his cock while that other cock sucker of an ambassador was getting cocks rammed up his ass before getting killed?

> She must be minimum 25 years younger if you’re stupid enough to marry.You have been warned

Petraeus married at the age of 23, so getting a wife ten years younger would have been deeply illegal, and a wife 25 years younger somewhat physically impossible.

Now, I submit to you the possibility that getting married at the tender young age of 23 actually freed him to be able to concentrate on his career. Instead of chasing tail with the other junior officers he could concentrate on his studies. If he hadn’t got married to some dumpy General’s daughter at the age of 23 y’know what we’d call him? Major Petraeus.

Is it better to become the world’s top general and then flame out after banging a hottie, or to bang hotties throughout your youth and never make the most of your career at all?

But, while I agree that marrying a general’s daughter probably helped his own career advancement, I’m not sure that he was thinking that when he married her.

My dad has always said that any man who gets married before the age of 30 is a complete imbecile. He got married at 23. Now look at her. Yuck. Sleeping with that at night, I can fully understand how he was tempted to be unfaithful with a well-preserved, slender, in-shape specimen like Paula coming onto him, to say the least.

While I think she is horrible looking, let’s try to be fair to her. He married her when he was 23, so she must have been around his age. Back then, I am sure she looked hot. She is 60 now, so what do you expect? She is not going to look like someone in her 30s like the mistress. Let’s be honest here, men age much better than women do. While she is totally UNFUCKABLE, he still IS.

I don’t see how a single guy trolling for hos every night has time to focus on building something worthwhile, or inventing and producing anything. That’s why most scientists, captains of industry, or entrepreneurs are married. Do you think they have time for prowling? A man that has a woman he loves by his side and unfettered access to sex, which means he doesn’t have to constantly troll for it, can focus much better on building a career or a business.

“Is it better to become the world’s top general and then flame out after banging a hottie, or to bang hotties throughout your youth and never make the most of your career at all?”

Excellent question. Any man who chooses the latter was a loser to begin with. He had no career or any real success, so to make up for his shortcomings he got to be good with the ladies. Not a bad exchange if that’s all you can get.

If women want their place back on the pedestal, they will have to earn it en masse. It is personally tragic that Mrs. Petraeus is collateral damage (a phrase with which her husband is familiar) to the wider cultural conflict, but it is blowback (another familiar phrase for him) a hundred years in the cumming. A personal righteousness that abets the preservation of the general evil will not do.

More to the point: I wonder what his daughters’ track records are. Daddy’s bungling of this affair into a career-ending fiasco indicates (which will now affect a national security issue) indicates he has always been part of the problem rather than the solution.

And of course, there’s a cuckold in the story.
That’s what you get for marrying a hyperactive lawyercunt (in this case, a military officer who spends whole years on missions abroad, in the company of all kinds of sexy alpha males and high-ranking high-achieving beta males).

‘A few months into my research, General Petraeus, who was then leading Central Command, invited me to go for a run with him and his team along the Potomac River during one of his visits to Washington,’ she wrote. ‘I figured I could interview him while we ran.’
She explained that, after earning varsity letters in cross-country and indoor and outdoor track, she wanted to test him to see if he could keep up with her as she interviewed him.‘Instead it became a test for me,’ she said. ‘As we talked during the run from the Pentagon to the Washington Monument and back, Petraeus progressively increased the pace until the talk turned to heavy breathing and we reached a six-minute-per-mile pace. It was a signature Petraeus move.’

I think this is the fatal incident where Petraeus seriously started giving her ‘gina tingles.

This woman has no shame. She goes on Jon Stewart and admits to this travesty for all of America to see her and learn to recognize her. Doesn’t she care about her kids and their reputation? What about her cuckold husband, didn’t he suffer enough? She is a major witch. I hope she pays for this one day. People have no shame anymore.

She’s a dude with female genitals, which is the trendy look today. The more she is represented as sexual, the better advertisement she is for feminism. She’s pretty much the amazon ideal they hoped all in our generation would be, including taking advantage of the institution of marriage while having utterly no regard for it.

Yeah she is a major overachiever. She is an athlete, a solder, a lawyer, a journalist, and an author. She is the wife of a doctor and a mother of two children, and only 37 years old. WOW!

Did you see her arms? She is very muscular.

I bet she met her husband also in the military.

She is also unstable because she threatend and intimidated this other woman about the General when he isn’t even her husband and she has no rights to him. How BOLD.

That’s what happens when women are over achievers and their husbands are total betas who don’t put their foot down. Sexually she is unhappy, that’s why she was looking for sex. So typically selfish. She’ll put her children through hell because her puss got wet.

She also has a BIG mouth because she couldn’t keep quiet about classified information and went on all the talks shows talking about Libya.

Now she has the FBI at her home because she couldn’t keep her mouth shut. Her poor husband and their children must be going through hell.

And the General is another idiot. He sacrificed his good name and his career for young pussy. I can’t blame him because his wife is horrid, but he should have found someone who isn’t as ambitious as this one. This woman is dangerous, couldn’t he sense that? Some men are book smart but they are not street smart. That’s why I assess him as beta and not Alpha.

Good article. It also needs to be said that men, especially powerful men, got that way for a reason. That they’re going to usually be highly sexual just comes with the territory. His mistake, in my opinion, was in not handling the affair more discreetly or in having an affair-affair at all, at a time when this would become a scandal because it destroys the fairy-tale dreams of unrealistic, overentitled women…women who think in shoulds instead of ises.

If I were the wife in this situation, I’d be telling women something like, “Wake up. I’m 60+ and *hoped* he’d find a suitable ‘relief pitcher’.” Heheheh…

There isn’t a whole lot that a woman can do about aging. Some are just going to do it better than others.

Life is full of risks and tradeoffs. If a woman wants to keep a man monogamous for life, that is a nice dream, but it just isn’t how reality pans out. Even if a woman looks great for her age, new stuff is turning 18 every day, and there are always women who are different or interesting, if not always prettier. This is just life.

@Joe – Each his own, I guess, but when I compare the 20-somethings I meet to the 30 & 40-somethings, I’ma go for the former and leave the latter to you. And I’m not just talking looks.

As for Mr. Petraeus, if that’s the mistress, I don’t want to see the wife……
What is it with these guys?
The Governator marries a battleaxe and cheats on her with the fat lady from the corner taqueria, a 4-star general sleeps around with a sunday school teacher….
I’m glad I like hot waitresses.

Wolfie, everybody likes hot waitresses. The thing is, a woman being hot is no assurance of anything but that she is hot. It does not mean that she will be fun, compassionate, appreciative, or overall good company.

Hot is enough for most men…but some men have a different idea of what is a good time and who is worth doing. If a man has access to whoever he wants, should he be more worried about pleasing the masses programmed to rate women according to statistical and/or objective beauty, or concerned with pleasing himself?

In this case, the guy chose someone who conforms to the amazon ideal that his generation was programmed to prefer over younger, softer, more supple women. So he’s really not far from convention. At least she’s not fat😉

Okay, so she’s a cheating, lying, unappreciative bitch who punked her husband on national television, but at least she’s not fat. Heheheh…

Aka, don’t have kids or grow old. Most women (and men for that matter) just don’t look that great as they get older. Petraeus’ wife is, what, 60? His mistress was roughly 2 years old when he got married in 1974. Of course she’s gonna look better. Guys should think about these things when they get married. There’s only so much that a woman can do to not “let herself go” and when she’s 60, she is nearly 100 percent likely to not look hot. Unless she has access to a really good plastic surgeon.

1. Immigration restriction. You need a certain number of high IQ people to keep a First World society going.

You get them by increasing immigration, not decreasing it. Nothing guarantees that your natives are worth a damn. (You should read what Mencken says about white southerners.) The difficulty of relocating here (especially, say, from Asia) tends to filter anyone who is not, at least, ambitious. Today David Brooks cited a Pew Center study that says if anything, Asians and Hispanics value hard work more than whites. I don’t know how much of that correlates to intelligence but it must be at least somewhat inimical to stupidity.

Australia has a sensible policy when it comes to immigration. They only let people in who are able to contribute something to society (ie academics, skilled migrants). This has resulted in a large influx of Asians, with all the benefits associated with those migrant groups (high iq, low unemployment, low crime rates, slim sweet girls).

Australia understands that immigrants are a resource, and they have policies in place to get the cream of the potential immigrant population.

Australia also has a pretty fantastic guest worker program that enables them to use cheap Western backpacker labor instead of illegals from Mexico in ranching and agriculture. I met a lot of college kids on their gap year over there, working their way around the country, wanting to know if they could do the same thing in the US. America’s policies for situations like that are downright hostile. Shame.

No. For every skilled immigrant we get here in Australia, ten more lazy immigrants come. Our population increases by 300,000 each year, over half of that number being immigrants. Most are visa-overstayers who are worthless illegals. The rate of population increase is proportional to the decrease in standard of living for the rest of us, given every new citizen settles in Sydney. Close the borders, deport the Muslims and stop taking unskilled dipshits from shitholes like the Sudan. Thankyou prime
Minister Gillard.

I hope people understand that when they take the cream of the crop from a third world country they are further weakening that society. Does that thought not cross their minds? Or do they just not care? These people need to work on improving their society, not jumping ship.

This is brain drain nonsense.
The skilled people are fleeing their countries because nothing can be done there. Most third world populations are worthless, miscegenated to the max, low IQ, low trust, and backward beliefs.
With a high IQ and a formal education there, you have better odds to lose your mind than contribute to progress.

And first world immigration is unavoidable, because urbanization and feminism are slaughtering our birth rates. It’s better to bring those with high qualification and low crime predisposition. We can’t start worrying about the elite of third world, because most of the elite there is doing just fine and keeps growing. Those who made it there and were able to adapt to the local hardships generally prefer to stay among their kind.

Welfare+low iq immigration is idiotic beyond belief.
Limited medium and high IQ immigration without welfare could be beneficial to a successful sane nation. But we’re definitely past that.

Are you saying that these low IQ societies are destined to forever living in third world conditions and nothing can be done about that? I don’t blame the high IQ people for wanting to leave, but I don’t see how a third world countries IQ and living conditions can be improved if you allow all the smart people to immigrate.

“Are you saying that these low IQ societies are destined to forever living in third world conditions and nothing can be done about that?”

It’s their problem; don’t feel bad about it. The only way for them to get out of this vicious cycle is to help themselves, just like white people helped themselves over the millennia. If they are too stupid and have no vision or motivation to do anything to help their own people, it’s their problems, not ours.

White people misguided help, only serves to make these backward ass 3rd world people more lazy. Their salvation can only come from within, just like white salvation came from within; it didn’t depend on, or expect other races to help it.

How foolish. When you let strangers into your home for a prolonged period of time, they take over. Get real! No matter how well behaved and contributing to society they are now, eventually they’ll take over. why go there?

I think you’re misinformed on Australia’s immigration policy. It’s certainly a lot better than America’s “Come On In, We’re Not Looking” policy, but Australia does nonetheless seem to acquire, in the refugee or family reunion categories, a fair supply of undesirables.

If the natives are white people I can promise you that they are worth a damn. Every place white people have gone they’ve built into a thriving civilization. The only immigration whites need are other white people period.

I understand that minorities will never accept or agree to that type of thinking, and I dont blame them. It’s in their best interest to convince whites they need colored people to have a good society.

The era of being able to import high-IQ people is over, for the simple reason that high-IQ people (read: Europeans and East Asians) are collapsing in number. Trying to draw off high-IQ people from China and India poses other problems, such as cultural incompatibility and the tendency of the newcomers to favor their own kind over us.

Hispanics aren’t particularly bright; about half may be considered white, but the other half are indios with some blacks. The reason we get a lot of Hispanics is due to proximity; we’re the nearest rich country to them.

If I were dictator, my immigration reform would be to allow people in only if they were married to U.S. citizens, scrapping “family reunification” entirely. And getting rid of jus soli too, of course.

“Our age is not only the most Jewish but the most feminine. It is a time when art is content with daubs and seeks its inspiration in the sports of animals ; the time of superficial anarchy, with no feeling for Justice and the State ; a time of communistic ethics, of the most foolish of historical views, the materialistic interpretation of history ; a time of capitalism and of Marxism ; a time when history, life, and science are no more than political economy and technical instruction ; a time when genius is supposed to be a form of madness ; a time with no great artists and no great philosophers ; a time without originality and yet with the most foolish craving for originality ; a time when the cult of the Virgin has been replaced by that of the Demi-vierge. It is the time when pairing has not only been approved but has been enjoined as a duty.”

And how did America and its politicians react over the decades following publication? A lot of them joined the Klan, anti-immigration laws were passed to keep out Asians, white ethnics – anyone but NW Europeans and not even many of those – sweeps to drive out the Mexicans, an isolationist foreign policy, small gov until WW2. White men were in charge and reacted like white men. The 1980s were the last chance to right the ship but the boomers were too coddled, corrupted and liberal to undo the damage their parents did in the 1960s and 1970s.

Wikipedia, on Weinenger’s philosophy: “…the duty of the male, or the masculine aspect of personality, is to strive to become a genius, and to forego sexuality for an abstract love of the absolute, God, which he finds within himself.” Good luck with that.

The very idea of “foregoing sexuality” (as in “doing without” I guess) is in direct contradiction with the concept of genius (which he defines as universality inside one man) he develops throughout the book.

How can you strive to become a genius if you forego parts of the world? This was written by an idiot.

What’s funny though, is that in understanding Judaism (or the more Occult aspect’s of pseudepriaphically deified religiosity) as a non-Jew one come’s to terms with what Hebraic sense of Nature we’ve caused, given, named, and believe existed in our Alpha-numeric habitual place of flavor’s (of the senses, capitulated, seemingly) – as extended via promiscuous intellect’s ability to manufacture conceptual oblivion’s, disparage perceptually envisaged idealization’s, form pre-formatted constituents of a livable Divinity, provide for those with slack-mind’s a message of one alternative path toward individuated impracticality centered around “secrets” of cognitively dissnoant & primally primal perceptual dalliance’s delighted & oft ne’er candid display of philosophical genius under the guise of deliberate ineptitude; of’s for; & disjointed bodies’ fluids encapsulated remorseless discernment’s decisions, of course hardly on par with one’s systemic flow, in an able-bodied manner hardly wreaking havoc on the threshold of one’s disdained sense of opportunity wasted on thought’s continuing to widen the gap of the vortex that is the Western Mind unable to grasp it’s own sense of Self guiding the vehicles on the bridges it burns to construct new Aeon’s of Men Who Can’t Figure Out How to Change yet are apt to magnificently describe that which they observe & experience on a minute, abstract, & archaically complex derivative from the previously held-belief’s conceptual norm.

Good luck figuring that one out.

I have a question for these people here: why is it that 5 years after breaking up with a girl, she still says she loves me, and I can see that she does, and I know that I loved her, but in knowing also everything that I predicted – hence leaving her due to said predilections, and varying degrees of non-chalant recognition of who she was to (as is now) become…and after 5 years I “love” her the same as I did when I was “in love” with her years ago.

Do other men experience feelings of love that are not unrequited, but are known, fully expressed, shared, and cognized as legitimately pure. Seeing that she was, will be, & undeniably has been the “one” who could be considered a “soul-mate”. But, that doesn’t mean I don’t go years without even remembering her existence, it simply means when in relation to me she is there, we both know it’s love we have for each other; however, when I am not there, it’s known that due to that ‘love’s’ existence it’s best we both stay away from each other – as only pain follow’s the necessary broken heart of separating for another’s well-being.

After some consideration I think I’d like to believe that those of you who are labelled here “beta” or “white-knight” are actually what Good Men are. You live a life according to your known belief-system & ideal’s. You aren’t Alpha because you don’t fuck whore’s. There is nothing but the promotion of excellence that can come from behaving & living in such a manner.

I think Heartiste and these blogger’s need to start building up their audience – as only “beta” males would read these blogs, correct? So then stop making “beta” male’s into a bad thing. Beta males are your fathers. Your mothers husbands. Your sisters boyfriends. Your future self as father.

I think that semantic aspect of Game is the only thing beyond the fact, as I’ve mentioned elsewhere, that Game Theory essentially works (as does any theory if applied), which has wreaked havoc in my mind attempting to come to terms with such a binary application of dividing humans into This or That.

Seems unfair to the masses, but then again, they’re ‘masses’ for a follower’s reason.

Hey man, these are largely made up of “anonymous” people’s e-mail’s, sent through various alternating proxies by me, so let it be. Don’t need to read it if it doesn’t make sense, I rarely carouse them.

I’ll start to put quotes on the longer things if that helps to warn people. Or just change the avatar, ’cause this one seems to have been warn out by now.

You means besides Ludwig Wittgenstein, one of the greatest philosophers of the 20th century? Sh-sh-short bus. “While a student at the Realschule, Wittgenstein was influenced by Austrian philosopher Otto Weininger’s 1903 book Geschlecht und Charakter (Sex and Character). Weininger (1880–1903), who was both Jewish and homosexual, argued…” That’s going to leave a mark.

Speaking ugly truths may be unpleasant, but being ambushed by a beautiful lie is much, much worse.

For example, one beautiful lie is that many millions of low wage Mexican immigrants will generate enough wealth to pay aging white people’s pensions. The much more likely outcome is that millions of low wage Mexican Americans will soak up more wealth than they generate (they do send money back to the old country, and the young working ones do have old relatives of their own, too). They need housing, schools, health care, police,fire, etc. Making 13 dollars per hour just won’t do it.

So, the much more likely outcome is that these millions of Mexican Americans, in the name of fairness, will help themselves to a lot of the old white people’s money, either through the political process or by extra-legal means.

I have never seen a good long term outcome when a country imports a lot of cheap labor.

Of course, back to this blog’s major use. I have been screwed over a number of times by the beautiful lies regarding the fairer sex. Ugly truths need to be taught. Life is much better when you know the rules.

A happy recent experience to lighten up this blog: As she tightened the handcuffs, and bit harder, she smiled and said, “You’re fun.” It that an ugly truth, or just the truth?

Were I a low-wage immigrant imported to wipe the asses of some wrinkly old SWPLs while also paying for their expensive fun, I might not be all that enthusiastic either. My commitment might not be unwavering. My buy-in might not be absolute. Oops, a snag.

Congratulations, and thank you. Saying there are no brilliant, hardworking people in a given ethnic or racial minority is as stupid as sayin there are no idiotic lazy people in a given ethnic or racial majority.

The bell curve extends both ways for all groups, and the only way to ascertain where a particular individual lies on the curve is to get to know him or her.

This is why it is important not to give entire groups of people advantages or disadvantages based on their group.

Yeah, like intelligence, honor, and many other positive qualities, racism and mouthbreathing idiocy also distributes itself on a bell curve. Nobody’s got a monopoly, but you may find it more prevalent in one group over another. Don’t let the bastards get you down.

Get Atty General Holder on the phone! This “nation of cowards” is having a “frank discussion about race” on a love guru site!

C’mon, Jase. How long are you going to keep up the pose? You’re here among the perishment of pretty lies. You are welcome. Your attachment to stupid pieties is not.

There will be no hard feelings, but pick which side of the border you want to be on. The perishing will not always be so pretty. Right now you are kicking up a fuss for no reason, rather than assessing the circumstances like a man.

The bell curve in India generally extends to the right with the Brahmin castes. Dalits are generally on the left. That of course does not stop there being a stupid Brahmin and a briilliant Dalit, but most of the Indian doctors are of Brahmin descent.

“The bell curve extends both ways for all groups, and the only way to ascertain where a particular individual lies on the curve is to get to know him or her.” Yes but Boo, the real bottom is the CENTER of the curve is different for different groups. Meaning the average people clustering around the mean will vary. This has consequences we are still trying to ascertain.

Ironically enough, India has affirmative action to disadvantage Brahmins and give untouchables and Sudras extra help. Brahmins are coming to the realization that they’re being treated like white people in the USA are.

Come to think of it, Latin America is exactly like India, only with an Iberian Catholic rather than a Hindu culture.

HBD runs deep no matter the continent. But I do support affirmative action in India, since Dalits (untouchables) really are treated like total shit, and that needs to stop. It’s one thing to be on the bottom due to lack of ability, quite another to be treated like the dalits are.

They are importing Doctors from India, as well as from Muslim countries all over the west now. It’s not about the shortage of doctors due to difficulty of acceptance to medical school. It’s due to the fact it’s becoming increasingly unprofitable to practice as a doctor in the west. It many countries with social medicine, you are considered a gov’t employee and get paid peanuts. In the US, Medicare/Medicaid, insurance companies, and trial lawyers make it very expensive to practice. Doctors from India or Pakistan agree to work for pennies. They are part of many HMO’s. The quality of medicine is shit there.

As someone who grew up with socialized health care, there are a few things about such a system no one ever mentions – because you have to live in such an environment for a long time before you notice them – that deserve some thought.
‘Free’ health care (free meaning paid for by very high taxes) leads to long lines in jam-packed doctor’s offices, because everyone and their cousin goes to the doctor for every little shit.
It leads to medical paperwork and bureaucracy that dwarfs everything you currently know.
It leads to the patient becoming even more of just a number than they already are to the self-declared demi-gods of the medical profession.

That depends very much in which country with socialized health care you have been and it also highly depends on the individual doctor.
Not everything is bad about it. Take people born with a hereditary disease for example, in many european countries they are able to afford health care, whereas in the US it might be very expensive. Both systems have their advantages and disadvantages…

Yeah, I hate Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Indonesia. All 3 are Muslim countries who hate the west and help terrorists. India is a bit better, and very interesting place to see. Why don’t you do us all a favor and move to one of those backward ass places, or maybe you’re there now. You sure seem offended every time I say anything negative about Indo Asia.

As far as not knowing anything, how about you brush up on your grammar and spelling skills? I’ve been meaning to tell you this for quite a while now.

On a much lighter note, thanks for all the information you have provided us here and on the previous threads about the Democrats sealing the election. My sister has been heartbroken about Romney losing so I shared with her much of what you said. It’s always going to be very hard for conservatives to win against the Democrats when they are so good at employing so many different tactics to steal votes. If the conservatives don’t find ways to fix this problem they’ll always lose.

Canadian Fiend. I have a few comments to you awaiting moderation. Don’t know why.

In the meantime, look at this map. Most of the map is red. Obama’s activist just concentrated on heavy populated areas with the most electoral votes to do their hancky pancky. That’s how they ensured the most electoral votes go to Obama, even though most areas of the country didn’t vote for him. People need to raise hell.

Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.
– Theodore Dalrymple

I hate them too. What they do is they don’t fight fair. They are very sneaky and have tactics that they slam repeatedly until they beat you to submission. They never let up. No one wants to be called a racist or other negative epithets. So like you said, the Left wins by default.

The only reason they have been so successful is because they have tactics of brainwashing the right doesn’t have. The same tactics used by the Nazis and the Communists, two leftists ideologies, so people feel guilty if they have conservative notions.

However, it’s people’s fault they have no conviction or inclination of what the truth really is. People are mostly brain dead and care about nothing but fitting in. That’s why I have no sympathy for people. They got the exact government they deserved. A people without a backbone are destined for extinction.

How do you survive in such a liberal place as Canada with your views? That’s a wonderment.

How do you survive in such a liberal place as Canada with your views? That’s a wonderment.

Well…

where I live – in the province of Quebec – most people are French speaking while the rest of Canada is anglo.

and French speaking Canadians ( about 7 millions of them ) are even more to the left compared to the rest of Canada.

English speaking Canadians are not so liberal; they elected a conservative prime minister in 2006 who is still in power and he has done a few things that are really not liberal such as getting rid of a thing called the gun registry,

duck and dear hunters had to register their weapon so the police could trace it in case of a crime, but criminals of course never register their weapons…it was useless and it cost us billions of dollars, but it made libeal canadians feel good ( and of course it was mostly women who insisted on this useless gun registry thing )

And when people are so far to the left, and their media is also to the far left, they do not have the same information and they are not aware of the same things.

I would say about 90% of the verifiable facts I am aware of, most French speaking Canadians have never heard about them.

Most French speaking Canadians have absolutely no idea that Obama sent an additional 30,000 troops to the middle eats or that millions of illegal immigrants are in the USA or that it is a federal law that if you show up in a US hospital and have no insurance – even if you are an illegal immigrant – they have to take care of you it is the law.

Most French speaking people know nothing of those facts, but they ” know” republicans are evil racists as if this was as true a fact as water is wet or the sun is hot ( Our media is not so subtly anti-USA but mostly anti-right so there is plenty of brainwashing going on here)

I recently tried a google search with the words “Liberal Blanc” ( French for white liberal ) and got ZERO results!!!

the french speaking community knows so little of what is going on that the concept of white liberals messing everything up is non-existent to them

Only a minuscule percentage of French speaking people are aware of what the left is doing to western civilization and aware of the fact republicans are not horrible monsters.

Most of them are unaware of such things as affirmative action, their ignorance is appalling…

so of course it is almost impossible to discuss issues with people who know less than 10% of what is going, and most of what they know is what the leftist media has assured them is the truth.

If it were not for English Speaking Canadian blogs and USA blogs, I think I would go insane ( well not really, I am too sane to ever go insane… as arrogant as that sounds )

Very few French Speaking canadians think like me

I am a black sheep in my own corner of the world and to an extent as a French canadian on a USA site I am also a sort of black sheep ( disclaimer; no pun intended to offend people of African descent )

There is a big difference between simply stating the truth, ugly or not, and harping on other people’s shortcomings. Usually, once people simply accept the truth, ugly or not, they are OK with it. We adapt.

Nobody should be a fanatic. (A man who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject.)

Reader’s probably are right about the posting of ‘game’ related articles, however it is an excellent choice to balance game theory or in-field experiential phenomena with thought’s as these written Above. One need balance the injustice of semantic system’s by dabbling esoterically in that which is unfamiliar.

Dalrymple: Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.

Coming to terms with HBD realities is a thoroughly necessary step along the path that leads to true game awareness, Understanding the truth of female attraction triggers will remain impossible for guys as long as they believe women are similar, even remotely similar, to themselves in these matters, They are not and never will be so one must accept that to cope with a different and more nuanced paradigm.The same folks who have been lie-ing about women also habitually lie about and conceal anything relevant regarding the extent and meaning of regional population brain-gene differences.
Crime scene DNA samples can be screened for sub h, african origins quickly and easily by checking quite a small number of locations.

So many people think they have taken the Red Pill when they have only scratched the surface. They admit to the true nature of women but stop short of acknowledging the hard biological realities which impact many aspects of the world.

I suspect this is because the media/academic(marxist) brainwashing for HBD related things runs much deeper.

HBD realism is not a panacea. One scenario is that powers that be, should they acknowledge HBD, will enforce a genetic communism that goes beyond our current economic communism. Fear this.

Right now, with HBD being off the table, the elites are fighitng us with proxy blank-slate premises. Whites are too “racist”, wealth and opportunity is unequotably distributed, and so on.

But what if they get clarity, and say “whites have an unfair advantage not due to insitutional arrangemens or selfishness,but due to nature. This will not be.” And the solution is as implacable as the hard truths of HBD.

This is why HBD, from our perspective, is just a tool, a proxy for our intersts, At one point, ideological self-defense may arrive not at IQ charts, but at teh nucleus of the truth: we assert our right ot exist.

“you have to persuade or deceive people into something like that – brute force is…brute.”

have you seen the number of new shows the networks are pimping this season that feature a nigger fucking a blonde woman? the communists know women are herd creatures and will follow the monkeys on the jewtube.

This forced mixing is already part of what elites/infotainment people like. The Marvel 2099 series had as the Spider-Man series a bit on forced-mixing, no White guys or gals allowed. This is mostly driven by White women’s disgust for beta males, who are predominantly White.

No force is needed. Only ego massage and categories. It was done on plantations, and was re-done with the invention of “White” to cover all Europeans and some Eurasians. It’s done here with Jews. It’s done to some degree with African Americans who would rather be in a dysfunctional relationship with another Black person than to consider a functioning relationship with someone non Black.

Nobody has to force you when they convince you that you’re special or somehow under threat by others.

Paraguay in the late XIX century created a mandatory miscegenation law that prohibited European born people to marry other European born people.

Think about it.

Of course, that dictator was overthrown when the Brazilian, Argentine and Uruguayan armies (all incipient white majority countries) invaded Paraguay, killed 80% of Paraguayan men and reduced the size of the country to one third or something.

Shit a WN Brazilian once told me and wikipedia more or less confirmed.

Policies putting unfair anti-reproductive strains on whites have been in effect for decades. No need for outright planning. The tension can only increase as browns breed more, white bitches prevent/abort the future, and blacks become ever more feral and bold.

IQ is but one measure of a man’s character, and but one ingredient contributing to a culture’s prideful sense of self and trust in fellow-man.

IQ is the least important thing in a man’s character. It can be a huge liability in some instances. An educated, atheistic, moral-less person of high IQ is one of the most dangerous things in the world. Decoupled from a sense of right and wrong, and absolved of consequence by the non-existence of God, there’s no limit to the evils highly intelligent people can get up to.

Yeah, Intelligence makes evil into a cause which may beckon what good the beacon of negativity shrouds in mystery. That’s why the most evil men in history are the most feared & respected Leaders of entire civilizations.

Too bad that evil is actually typically stupidity, so circling round the retardation of fame & power only claim witness to those who are able in ignorance to abuse the weapon they pretend or believe wield. Usually the weapon those in power believe they control is what controls them; so in social dynamics the most elusive, successful, charming men (like Casanova’s) are only projecting any & all things they will come to lose or know never existed in the first place. But it’s such illusory enigma’s that we’re drawn to. so the evil will never leave, and the good will always – in finishing last- win in the end; only after evil triumph’s does good come into play.

The Jews have the highest IQ, deal with it. Stop trying to change reality. So do some Asians. But so what? Does it mean all that much? It does if you only worship at the altar of IQ. There are more important things than IQ, as we seen with your beloved Nazis. They were the most advanced society on earth, but had no morals or decency. Where did it get them if not destruction? The evil will never succeed in the long term.

And this is why the ORIGINAL Planet of the Apes was so good. Most people didn’t understand the cautionary tale that white supremacy culture was being described in ape civilization; meanwhile the humans were the equivalent of “3rd worlders”.

With the supremacy of ape culture came the very seeds of its downfall; the arrogance, greed, slavery, militarism, RACISM…

its all there if you know what to look for.

An especially interesting parallel was ape contempt at the possibility that humans had an advanced civilization in the distant past; and its quite understandable. Only a few of the apes knew the truth and they carefully kept it secret in order to maintain the ape supremacy system.

They knew if the truth about humans ever got out, it would spell the end of ape supremacy.

White people on this very site act the same way; all day long all they do is screech: “without white people, civilization is doomed! you need us to practice racism…bla bla bla…if it wasn’t for us…”

The final scene where the mutant white people are worshipping the “doomsday bomb” was perfect.

“White people on this very site act the same way; all day long all they do is screech: “without white people, civilization is doomed! you need us to practice racism…bla bla bla…if it wasn’t for us…”

You mean like formally white colonies that were handed over to the “apes” to continue your analogy. Zimbabwe, Angola, South Africa, both Congos, Equatorial Guinea, ect. I’m sure any day now, that “advanced civilization in the distant past” will blossom.

Low IQ societies have demonstrated time and time again that they are unable to build or even maintain a first world existence. The cost of having a few evil high IQ people is insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

If I.Q. was the be-all and end-all then why aren’t Mensa folk our overlords and why do the kid geniuses who get a TV spot never heard from again. Yes low I.Q. is bad, but very high I.Q. doesn’t especially pay off either.

High IQ people gave you the computer, the plastic it is made of, the electronic components in it, the internet, the trucks it was shipped in and the combustion engine in the trucks, and the technology to extract petrol from the ground and I could go on and on.

These “low IQ societies” you speak of are largely still recovering from hundreds of years of exploitation, including but not limited to religious, and often did just fine with kingdoms and nations that had lasted thousands of years before that. So you and others here are basically holding it against people that after being mindraped and exploited for some time, they don’t just bounce back like nothing happened, and like the world hasn’t changed since those times.

Just wait though…

Also, one has to consider that people with perhaps lower average intelligence, but higher social dominance, and with its companion higher need for structure and strong leadership, are not just going to sit around and be exploited by new rulers who just happen to be the same color.

Depends on the society, depends on the people, depends on which nation conquered them. the French turned Vietnam into a whorehouse, and a few hundred miles to the south, the British created one of the wealthiest nations on Earth in Singapore. Africa’s a shithole, by and large, but India is a functioning, vibrant democracy. China’s managed to bounce back from the West completely collapsing its government with no assistance, whereas Afghanistan will never be a first world nation no matter how much money the US throws at it.

What’s the difference there, in terms of recovery? Culture. The world has vast cultural differences, even across colonized regions, and to imply that they’re all helpless victims with no ability to survive the most common of human stories – ie, conquest by a stronger nation – is stupid. I’m not saying colonization was good or bad, but to say that the world would be this idyllic, beautiful, perfectly functioning place without it isn’t just ignorant, it’s indulging in some of the most dangerous of liberal thought.

And just how long are they suppose to have to recover? All the whites were slaughtered in Haiti in 1790-93 I believe and its still a hellhole. Nakasaki and Hiroshima were nuked in 1945 and they’ve rebuilt it into beautiful cities. White farmers are being killed in SA and the blacks are starting to starve despite the fact that the infrastructure has already been built and all they have to do is operate it. Let’s say its true and some societies were exploited. What about the ones that were not exploited? What’s there excuse for still living in hellholes? Is it once again the white mans fault? Or it could be there low IQ I dont know.

As for your second point, why do low IQ societies keep being installed with dictators that have to be rebelled against? Is it in their genes for them to become cruel dictators once once they come to power? Do they have genes that predispose them to not respecting authority no matter how fair the leadership is? High IQ societies seem to last a while before the leadership has to be rebelled against, yet low IQ societies are in a constant state of revolution or just simply sitting there idle while being slaughtered by their dictators.

Even here in the US, the races with the lowest IQ’s are responsible for the majority of the violent crimes despite the fact the leadership blesses them with free government goodies at the expense of the tax payer. What do they have to be mad about? Why do they need to turn their neighborhoods into crap? Do they need to be given free goodies for another 300 years before they even start to make progress toward living like normal human beings?

And just how long are they suppose to have to recover? All the whites were slaughtered in Haiti in 1790-93 I believe and its still a hellhole. Nakasaki and Hiroshima were nuked in 1945 and they’ve rebuilt it into beautiful cities.

As Dresden, Hamburg, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki have proven… if you want to destroy a city, drop tens of thousands of tons of TNT on it.

But if you REALLY want to destroy a city for good, drop tens of thousands of negroes off there.

Anonymous, Seoul had an “after the war”. To date, in many places in Africa, there has been no “after the war” or “after colonialism”. There are still manufactured conflicts, fallout from diseases and other dysfunctions set in motion less than 50 years ago, and a whole host of other problems that haven’t been allowed to be solved because to solve them would stop profits for some industries worldwide.

Where stability has been secured with limited outside interference or where it was in the rich people’s interest to have it, there it is. Not all of Africa is blowing up every day on the hour or something. In a good number of the places currently at war, that war is being sustained by Muslims. They’ve been trying to take over the continent for centuries.

It is not a matter of recovery or Africans failing to recover. It is a matter of people who’ve adopted a foreign religion trying to kill or convert everybody else, or people who have been promised money for taking over an area with wealth in the Earth doing that because having lost everything else including their culture, they have no reason not to. War can’t go on without weapons, and weapons cost money. Africans, even the warlords chopping off people’s limbs, are only seeing a small fraction of that. The rest is in other people’s hands.

For me, it’s not a matter of blaming White people, but blaming people in general. The whole world has the blood of Africa on their hands today. The computer you’re using right now has a bit of it in there. So does mine. The difference between us is that because I’m aware of this, when my computer dies, it won’t end up in a coastal African city getting inhaled as toxic smoke by an African child. As much of it as can will be reused and the rest recycled.

But stay blind to the world if you want. It’ll all work itself out eventually. Just remember the story of the little red hen, and pass it down to your children.

Let me sum up Nicole’s long paragraphs: it’s all the white man’s fault for exploiting them and taking their resources. There has never been an “after the war” date in Africa, because those white people and Muslims keep causing them to fight. We’ll ignore how South Africa was built by white settlers into the wealthiest country on the entire continent, and is now quickly crumbling after switching from white to black rule in a space of 15 years.

“For me, it’s not a matter of blaming White people, but blaming people in general. ”

In other words, maybe if we spread around the blame well enough, it will be impossible to see some pattern between white countries and black countries, allowing us to stay in the dark and avoid evil racism. We can do this together!

Anonymous, do you not see that your contempt for Blacks is just a mask for your contempt for the working class? It is obvious to anyone who is not blinded by butt hurt and a desire to be praised for merely existing.

Anonymous, Marx may have ignored genetics, but I do not. I simply understand that there is more to it than just the genes, there is gene expression and methylation. You don’t understand the role that genetics plays in human behavior and mass movements because you’re looking at genes as static and people within ethnicities as cookie cutter copies of their mean or average. Genes don’t work like a pie chart. It’s more like a spreadsheet.

I understand that it is difficult for someone who hasn’t read anything about HBD except things obviously labelled as such, written for laypersons, to understand, but if your aim is indeed, to see reality as it is then you must reach higher than the soundbytes.

You can’t separate environmental and social factors from genetics because environment and social factors affect gene expression. So to say that certain people did not excel in certain areas because they are genetically doomed is overly simplistic to the point of being a psychogenic virus spawning a chain of outright lies. It would or could only be proven true that a certain group lacks capabilities due to genetics if nobody in that group ever excelled in that area.

Since there are and were throughout human history, Black inventors, scientists, and capable leaders, and admixture with other ethnicities does not apparently reduce their in born capabilities, and may even enhance them, it cannot be that Black people are more genetically prone to doom than anyone else. If you believe that all humans are at least partially descendants of Africans then such an over simplistic view would mean that nobody with a higher IQ than the African average or mean could exist. If genes all expressed all the time every time and there was no such thing as methylation, everyone would look the same and behave the same. There would have been nobody living in the colder regions unless or until the mutation that makes some western Europeans pale. Yet brothers in the same family can look and behave very differently, and there were people living in northern Asia and Europe before the traceable mutation or “white gene”.

The reason the elite and intelligent of the world tend to be not personally racist, but play to the audience, balanced with personal preference that would naturally favor the similar, is because they understand these things. It is also why I am certain that they are vastly hard core believers in HBD.

“I simply understand that there is more to it than just the genes, there is gene expression and methylation. You don’t understand the role that genetics plays in human behavior and mass movements because you’re looking at genes as static and people within ethnicities as cookie cutter copies of their mean or average. Genes don’t work like a pie chart. It’s more like a spreadsheet.”

Methylation? I think you meant “DNA methylation,” as that’s just adding a CH3 side group and is used all the time in (bio)chemistry. I am looking at the spreadsheet. If the spread is DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT GROUPS then the average will be different ALONG WITH THE TAILS on the bell curve which includes your smart fraction of: “Since there are and were throughout human history, Black inventors, scientists, and capable leaders…” Which is why they are FAR rarer in number in black populations than other populations.

“You can’t separate environmental and social factors from genetics because environment and social factors affect gene expression. So to say that certain people did not excel in certain areas because they are genetically doomed is overly simplistic to the point of being a psychogenic virus spawning a chain of outright lies. It would or could only be proven true that a certain group lacks capabilities due to genetics if nobody in that group ever excelled in that area.”

The word you are searching for is: epigenetics. Yes, and it’s also possible that nuclear radiation from the environment could somehow come down and mutate something in a small black population which is then passed on like in Japan. That still would not change the average curve very much. It’s called a feedback loop. That’s why genes tend to cluster geographically. And that’s why population traits, if they change at all, change at a glacial pace taking generations.

“If genes all expressed all the time every time and there was no such thing as methylation, everyone would look the same and behave the same. There would have been nobody living in the colder regions unless or until the mutation that makes some western Europeans pale. Yet brothers in the same family can look and behave very differently, and there were people living in northern Asia and Europe before the traceable mutation or “white gene”.”

Yes, their may be variation, but they are still connected. Like how blue eyes cluster with blonde hair? Pale skin clusters with red hair? That does not mean every blonde person has blue eyes, but the genes are still LINKED. Same thing with ethnic groups sharing genes in common.

“The reason the elite and intelligent of the world tend to be not personally racist, but play to the audience, balanced with personal preference that would naturally favor the similar, is because they understand these things. It is also why I am certain that they are vastly hard core believers in HBD.”

Translation: Unless you agree with Nicole’s interpretation of things, you are being racisssst. Of course, if she thinks the elite are not racist, she’s obviously never heard of the Brahmin elite in India.

How do you explain North Korea then? Yes, they are still oppressed, but by this theory, they should be able to throw off their communist oppressors and immediately bounce back. There’s obviously not much in terms of genetics differentiating them from their South Korean neighbors.

“Korean males display a high frequency of Haplogroup O2b* (P49), a subclade of possibly Manchurian origin, and O3 (M122), a common Y-DNA haplogroup among East Asians in general.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreans

So Japanese, and “East Asians in general” have such genes, as South Koreans. North Koreans may lack this Japanese O2b genes, since these group of people tend to be found more in the Southern part of Sout Korea.
But yeah, there are other examples of nations having same genes, and still being much different, no nation is homogenous by genetics, whatsoever.

“Anonymous, do you not see that your contempt for Blacks is just a mask for your contempt for the working class?”

No, I really don’t see that. I have no contempt at all, merely a desire to view reality as it really is where pretty lie perish. Considering a working class made up of poor Chinese immigrants will be far different in character (and less criminal) than one from Africa. And perhaps the other commentators are right, this looks like regurgitated Marxist talking points. That’s one of Marx’s flaws when discussing class: he ignores the effects of genetics. Can’t really blame Marx too much, since he wrote Das Kapital and the Communist Manifesto back when we did not even know what DNA was.

People didn’t know about dna, but they knew about race.
Plenty of race theorists back then who were pretty close to the modern HBD truths. Gobineau was the first one, and even with his lack of data, he sounds way less delusional than Marx and his ridiculous armchair theory.

Marx is to blame. He’s at the source of more deaths than all religions combined, and many will keep dying because of him. There will still be a lot of blood because the confrontation between marxist equalism vs racialist conservatism is not over yet. We’re in some kind of an awkward truce. The end of history is merely its beginning.

Yes but Gobineau, Marx, were basically all just GUESSING at this race stuff back in the 1860s. The French Revolution made the same mistake as Marx with the social contract, thinking only of institutions shaping behavior while ignoring the effects of genes.

When any people’s cultures are destabilized, and their resources drained, they are going to have problems for generations. Africa caught more of it than other places because of some unique factors, but there is the same thing going on throughout Asia and Europe. Please do not think your suburban existence is the norm for White people. It is not. For the most part, White people are suffering from the same exploitation from the same kind of people. The only thing that makes things slightly better for some is that there is higher infrastructure and therefore better garbage to scavenge.

Regurgitated, highfalutin nonsense like this is incorrigible — except perhaps by the whip or by the dick. And frankly, that’s just not efficient enough for a program of reform. To have an entire life’s experience and a first-world education, and yet to still parrot unexamined absurdities: it’s almost cause for despair.

Trash this generation. And the next. Look to the infants. “The hand that rocks the cradle…”

Plato was right. If you want to achieve true reform, include no one over the age of ten in the next republic. The new tricks are too much for even the adolescent dogs. But for the old dogs with adolescent minds? Is there enough patience in the kingdom of this world? Enough mercy?

Angels and ministers of grace, defend me: I am beginning to think there is not.

Sorry, I just get impatient when people decide I’m a marxist just because I believe in humane government.

I also become annoyed with people who don’t know where the raw materials that prop up their lifestyle come from. The world should be on their knees thanking the hard working Africans who get paid a pittance, if at all, who allow them to not die at 30, instead of trashing them for not being as what…lazy?

Africans also have the sense to eat Pygmies and consult witch doctors for some special reason. Do you think that Congolese miners actually know what the fuck they are doing with the minerals like gold ore and cassiterite? Can they build a circuit board or a cell phone like they do in Asia? At this very moment, the Chinese are colonizing vast swaths of Africa and filling their rice bowl. It’s only bad when the evil white man does it I guess.

You claim I don’t read much African news. And yet, show how, through magical telepathy, I was able to deduce that the Congo is in Africa, Pygmies live in the Congo, they eat Pygmies in the Congo, the proper term is Congolese, they mine gold ore and cassiterite in the Congo, that cassiterite is used as a source of tin for electronics, and the Chinese are colonizing Africa.

“Nah, whoever you are, what clued me is that you think Africans think it’s okay to be exploited by Chinese companies.”

That’s because you’re very stupid. I didn’t say it was good or bad- I said it was happening, right now, whether you like it or not, and without a peep from fucktard musicians like Bono trying to “save” Africa. Apparently it’s only bad when white people do it. Notice how that’s never on the news in the west? What’s a good liberal multiculturalist to do? How can they save blacks without demonizing another minority? Will their heads suddenly detonate in a flash of racist Hellfire?

“Oh, and don’t get me started on cannibalism or quackery among Europeans…it’s really not a place you want to go if your aim is to prove superioritaaah.” Oh and speaking of wikipedia, why don’t you go look up muti. It’s always nice when South Africans murder children for body parts used by witch doctors. Now build me a nuclear power plant, you black savages.

Nitelily, I think you need to leave the debating with me to the men because you’ve gone off a hysterical end. You’re telling a woman who has a few inventions under her belt that Black people never invented anything.

Okay anonyme who wants to play semantic games, go be a good nobody and stop trying to play whose the worse perpetrator of atrocities with someone who isn’t Native American and African with some poor White folks mixed in. Humans suck, and you want to debate about who sucks worse, and I don’t have time for such childishness. I’d rather talk about real issues like finding a way to get people to be more productive and profitable and kill each other less often, since they’re going to suck anyway.

I remember reading that some “negros”, back in the day, favored gender realism over feminism. They were called crackpots and cult leaders. It was said that they were dangerous to society because of their “primitive” views, and near prophetic predictions of how White society was screwing itself.

White people then and now called them uncivilized.

Look at you now.

If you dismiss what I have to say as “babble” then it’s your loss. The test of truth is time.

“These “low IQ societies” you speak of are largely still recovering from hundreds of years of exploitation,”

Nicole, if you call building infrastructure, distributing medicines, civilizing with Judeo-Christian values, and educating the locals exploiting, then you are nothing but blind as a bat and dishonest as most blacks are about the truth. As Canadian Friend said, what have blacks invented, ever? A BIG ZERO.

So instead of trashing whity for all he has done for you, you need to worship, revere, and emulate him.

It boggles the mind when I see female whity sometimes emulating blacks. That’s a very confused low-self confidence female whity slut. Kind of Barak Obama’s mother.

When European first set foot in Africa they discovered a people that had “invented” not much more than mud huts.

Despite having been around for about 150,000 years, Africans have never invented a written language – which is why they have no written history – and they have never used the wheel – until Europeans introduced them to such inventions.

Blacks began inventing a few things AFTER Europeans introduced them to reading, counting, science and technology.

before that it was mostly mud huts.

Even self hating white liberals who are in love with third world people say so; you should read Jared Diamond’s book which was inspired by the very fact that when Europeans arrived in new Guinea with their advanced technology, they found a people almost as primitive as cavemen.

Jared Diamond’s theory ( which I strongly disagree with ) is that it was mostly luck that helped white people become the most advanced civilization in the history of planet earth and thus it was bad luck that kept black people uncivilized and primitive and kept them from ever inventing a written language or anything like the wheel or anything more advanced than mud huts.

No Africans never invented ANYthing UNTIL white people taught them about reading, mathematics, science and technology.

This a fact that may be lied about by white liberals and some blacks, but it is still a fact.

If Africans had invented a written language they would have a written history.

Founded by englishman Cecil John Rhodes, who also founded De Beers. Of Rhodes Scholarship nameshake. A prosperous white-run society later divided into Zimbabwe and Zambia, the former a black-run shithole, the latter a relatively stable and prosperous country by African standards.

You’re missing the point. Those low IQ societies are also mostly evil. They are not based on European ideals and principles, especially Americans ones. American principles also lead to goodness in most cases. Thus, we have more civilized people with some semblance of decency here in America than in any other place on earth, with the exception of the other English-speaking countries.

So there lies the problem. We could all forgive them for being stupid so long as they are good people. But, the problem is they are neither smart nor good.

Therefore, the issue is not us and how many evil people we have in our society; it’s them.

When you bring your evil to this side of the world, then it doesn’t matter what percentage of your people are “good”. We don’t get to see your “good” side.

We see your vaccines full of AIDS.

We see your abusive “volunteers” trying to save us from sin while sinning against us in the worst ways.

We see UN supposed “peace keepers” roasting children for fun and getting away with it.

We see your companies paying warlords to chop off our hands and feet so we can’t escape working in diamond mines so you can have a romantic engagement.

We see bags of chocolate our children were often kidnapped to pick being carted onto ships that you, not we, will eat on Valentine’s day.

We see you paying people in our governments to keep conflicts going that should have been over years ago (and this is in Israel too).

We see you funding Muslim dictators and getting funded by others but then proclaiming a “war on terror” that doesn’t keep our buses and churches and markets from getting blown up. Then the press is used to justify paying the governments that exploit us and the “terrorists” more money.

This so-called “good” you think others are supposed to see in your people, your people have yet to show. So how is anyone supposed to know it exists?

You’ve been rather evil towards me in this very thread.

…or is it only evil when it’s not profiting you?

Let’s be real here for a moment. All the world runs on interest. If you think your people are any exception, you are mistaken. This mistake will keep you from recognizing the evil when its eye turns on you because you don’t have enough money or status to insulate yourself from it. Wake up, sleeping beauty.

do nothing when their government lets banks get away with stealing their money
—You hate the Fed too? Who knew! Ron Paul and MIlton Friedman follower, everyone!

More seriously, if you can point to a crime any single bank committed that hasn’t been prosecuted, then I’m with you. However, if you’re just “mad” that some “banksters” in your mind “stole” money—i.e. you just want some blood for the recent, left-wing caused economic downturn, regardless of if any law was broken—then you’re just a whiny little child whose right to vote should be revoked.

The things most of you insult Africans for are the reasons you are in a police state.
—The reason we are in a police state is because of nigs and nig-lovers.

Africans are uncivilized because they’d rather die on their feet.
—lmao. Nigs are uncivilized because they are shiftless, lazy, violent, and stupid. Look at any sub-saharan (.i.e. “black”) country. They are third world jokes.

See, Greg, childhood is for people who can afford to have one. I feel rather fortunate to have had at least some of one. I don’t look down on those who didn’t. I respect them. The last thing I would call them is lazy or in any way lesser than people who sit on their soft asses and pontificate about how the rest of the world should react to watching their people get murdered.

Greg, as an African friend of mine once said to a mutual acquaintance who, much like yourself, don’t know what’s going on there but believe what the television tells you to:

We don’t need you (exploiters and people who buy what they sell) to give a fuck. We just need you to get the fuck out.

We do so wish that those of you who are White separatists, would convince the people of what you believe are your “race” to be completely and utterly separatist and self sufficient so you don’t have to drain Africa anymore.

Africans make jokes about Bono’s “every minute…” crap. Please take your pedophile aid workers and sex tourists, your religious nuts, and your feminists worsening a problem that the religious nuts created with you when you go.

Low-G folks have a much tougher time processing information and understanding causality, making them much more susceptible to demagoguery. This is an important incentive to understand in a voting society.

Yes, and high-IQ people often throw reality out of their mental calculations because they are capable of fully imagining a different reality. They also tend to ignore common sense answers. There are cognitive problems everywhere.

I have to agree with you on that. A decent good-hearted person, warms my heart a lot more than a smart evil person does. What comes first is people have to be good and kind-hearted. Only after that can IQ mean anything. What does IQ matters if one is a destructive evil persona who hurts people?

Some of the smartest races have managed to commit unspeakable atrocities. Who needs that? We need to focus on being compassionate people and positive contributors to society. BUT, that doesn’t mean that we give up all our rights or bend over backwards to make someone else happy at our own expense, or lie to less civilized people as to not offend them or to make them feel good about themselves. In other words, the truth matters.

That said, Dan Fletcher is right. IQ is important and one of the factors to consider. So if you have a smart person who is also good and kind, then that’s the best type of people we could have. I wish we had more people like that in this country.

You can game women and still be a good person. Why can’t you still be a strong man with standards and convictions, who keeps his word and is not some weasel? If anything, high IQ should make one be more able to discern between good and bad, right and wrong. Smart people can learn to develop their wisdom (street smarts), not just have book smart and build rocket ships. One doesn’t exclude the other.

Blacks and their ilk, have very low IQ so it’s harder for them to develop any wisdom.

Having observed the defeat of fascism-lite by overwhelming fascism this past Tuesday I laughed, moped a bit, punched a wall and a woman, and got enormously drunk like I did 4 years ago, realizing then that the country was dead, only now accelerating twice as hard towards depression and collapse.

And document meticulously the collapse in your lifetime. If only so future civilizations may learn something from it. After all, we did learn a thing or two about military despotism and dictatorships from our history.

Long live the beta and the alpha—may they, one day, lie down together in peace with the women.

For all the vibrants who take offense, let me tell you that our refusal to have children is actually a very subtle form of revenge.

How so? You may ask. Allow me to elucidate.

100 years from now, when your animal skin wearing, spear chucking progeny are banging rocks against the cooling tower of a nuclear power plant, beseeching their moon god for help… there won’t be a single white man around to tell them how to actually get the lights back on.

Enjoy living a hunter gatherer existence until the sun explodes. As history has shown over, and over again, that’s the best you’ll ever do.

“100 years from now, when your animal skin wearing, spear chucking progeny are banging rocks against the cooling tower of a nuclear power plant, beseeching their moon god for help… there won’t be a single white man around to tell them how to actually get the lights back on.”
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OK, and where will you be white man?

in a museum?

Nonwhite people got here without you and we don’t need you to stay here; you flatter yourself WAYYYY too much. Something put black people into the universe and it wasn’t white people; who knows, it might have been the “Moon God” . I know its difficult for you to concieve of such a thing because being a white man, you think you are God

Further, it doesn’t take a great leap of logic to discern that there were probably skilled artisans who happened to be free men that also worked on the structures. For example, I’m sure the average slave didn’t have the capability of creating the artistic drawings and hieroglyphics found within the tombs.

Well Greg, thank you for proving that no evidence is enough for you. Now I understand that you’re overly invested in your sense of superioritaah, and I’ll stop bothering with rational discussion.

If you’re better than me, be better me. Do more for your world. Do more for your people. Invent more. Love more. Be happier. Be remembered after you die as a great something, even if it’s just a great friend. Let everyone who knew you and treated you with respect say that you were the type of guy who would give your life and comfort to ensure their freedom. Let your enemies say that though they hated you, they respected you.

Darlin’, I’m not trying to be “better” than you… I’m merely trying to dissuade the more impressionable from believing your bullshit, and showing them what it’s like to stand up to the nonsense… which they’re not really allowed to do in the schools and/or when being bombarded by the MSM with white guilt.

As you already know, I’ve done a fair share for the world in general, and my folk in particular, merely by raising a solid family. Other personal deeds of mine may or may not be considered “superior”, but I assure you, I’ve done a bit more than most, for both country (when I still believed in America) and folk.

Greg, my “bullshit” is apparently facts and figures, research, and truths about human behavior, that you dismiss as lies because the information does not suit your mythology of the greatness of “Aryans” (good lord…) and the unimportance of others. Science be damned, you’ve got the exclusive bead on the ultimate truth, and those of us who demand actual evidence instead of blind faith in whoever must be your mini megalomaniac preacher or schizophrenic voice in your head, are just “negro apologists”.

When you decide to build that all White utopia, please let me know so I can donate to the cause.

Yes. but the interesting part will be the explanation of; despite all your great power and wealth….

why are you no more?

That’s easy. White guilt and racial self-hatred brought on by the ennui of success.

When he says that in that day all his thoughts perish, or flow away, perhaps under this expression he censures the madness of princes in setting no bounds to their hopes and desires, and scaling the very heavens in their ambition, like the insane Alexander of Macedon, who, upon hearing that there were other worlds, wept that he had not yet conquered one, although soon after the funeral urn sufficed him.

Put not your trust in princes,
in a son of man, in whom there is no help.
When his breath departs he returns to his earth;
on that very day his plans perish.

Alexander is weeping.

When we have so thoroughly mastered this world for 500 years, all that is left to challenge us is ourselves. There are no more worlds to conquer. So we turn on each other, itching for the fight that reminds men we are alive. Why else would we have invented the nuclear bomb and use it only twice in seventy years? There’s no sport in it. So we reverse-engineer our instincts into the moral high ground.

Fortunately, consciousness of this cannibalizing virus is third of the way to a cure. Another third is to “put not [our] trust in princes.” And the final third is the bloodlust that awakens at the sight of a new threat. Empty out our sports stadiums and channel their sublimation/suppression of the war instinct toward new ends, and the battle will be short, and success will return, and ennui will return, until we learn not to “lay up for [our]selves treasures on earth, where moth and rust consume and where thieves break in and steal.”

And by “lay up,” St. Matthew is not referring term of art in African Roundball.

they’re already experiencing dwindling population in Europe, specifically in Italy and Germany. I read an article a week ago (can’t find the link now) that says in about 100 years the Muslims in the country will outnumber the local population. The article was wondering what would happen to the local culture, museums, and things of that sort, ie., all things non-Islamic and pro-western.

And this is why the ORIGINAL Planet of the Apes was so good. Most people didn’t understand the cautionary tale that white supremacy culture was being described in ape civilization; meanwhile the humans were the equivalent of “3rd worlders”.

With the supremacy of ape culture came the very seeds of its downfall; the arrogance, greed, slavery, militarism, RACISM…

it was all there if you new what to look for.

An especially interesting parallel was ape contempt at the possibility that humans had an advanced civilization in the distant past; and its quite understandable. Only a few of the apes knew the truth and they carefully kept it secret in order to maintain the ape supremacy system.

They knew if the truth about humans ever got out, it would spell the end of ape supremacy.

White people on this very site act the same way; all day long all they do is screech: “without white people, civilization is doomed! you need us to practice racism…bla bla bla…if it wasn’t for us…”

The final scene where the white people are worshipping the “doomsday bomb” was perfect.

An especially interesting parallel was ape contempt at the possibility that humans had an advanced civilization in the distant past; and its quite understandable. Only a few of the apes knew the truth and they carefully kept it secret in order to maintain the ape supremacy system.

one big problem with your comment is that blacks never had an advanced civilization that we are pretending never existed…

Actually, you’re laughably stupid if you think we need another shabbos goy SWPL useful idiot or antiwhite Jew or negro (whichever you are) to only comment on anti-PC posts, whilst letting the Afrocentrism and/or other yiddling get a pass.

I am commenting on the most ridiculous statements I see at any given time. I find it hilarious that you are sitting around complaining about society at large, and how it is against the white man. Only weak men complain and bitch as you ‘anti-white’ folks do. Afrocentrism? Where are those posts, because if I see them and they are wrought with ignorance, I’ll comment on them.

People who complain whilst doing nothing about it but typing on a keyboard are weak. Blaming society for your pitfalls, instead of yourself is weak. If your using the term afrocentrism as it is intended, I see little afrocentrism in the comments. Acknowledging African contributions to society is not afrocentrism in itself.

People who complain whilst doing nothing about it but typing on a keyboard are weak.

And people who do nothing but complain about complainers are weaker yet.

If nothing else, I’ve increased the number of my kind in the world, and stuck around long enough to raise ’em, complete with debt-free college educations, so that they themselves have become productive members of society and will, hopefully, add quite a few more of their own kind to the world.

What have YOU done, asshole?

Aside from that, I’ve done a few other things to make the world a better place, but that’s immaterial right now, and I digress.

The important thing is, I have achieved failures so spectacular… so tremendous… so awe-inspiring… that they have outshone the successes of impertinent dweebs, such as yourself.

Haiti and Liberia are both fascinating countries that show HBD quite clearly. They make perfect sense if you look at them through a non-PC lens, and no sense at all how they can possibly keep failing if you don’t. Haiti can be divided into Afro-Haitians of African descent, and mulatto Franco-Haitians of mixed French descent. Obviously Franco-Haitians rule the country. Liberia had an elite ruling class for 133 years called Americo-Liberians, which were descendents of black american slaves. Average IQ of Americo-Liberians: 85, Liberian: 65. Interesting seeing one group of blacks enslaving another.

This is pretty much the case all over Central and South America. The paler you are, the higher up on the social ladder you are likely to be. You might almost compare what they have in Brazil, for example, to a caste system not unlike that of India.

“The rich white people in south American live quite well”
Do they really? Last I checked they needed kidnapping insurance, transport by helicopter, and armored guards instead of hanging out at the mall like wealthy americans can. I’m not looking forward to that, even if I was elite.

“if you do that, you deserve to lose your empire.”
That’s not exactly the point. The point was to enjoy leisurely activities without worrying about a threat of kidnapping or assassination due to the immense wealth gap between the social classes.

The pale in Brazil are not usually Anglo. Whatever demographic issues they have are quite different from what the U.S. is dealing with partly because Brazilians don’t have such an astronomically high and unrealistic sense of entitlement. This probably stems from being from cultures wherein people were more comfortable dealing with their own sadism, and except for gig, don’t play as if whatever resources they gained came from being more “civilized”. They are happily and honestly brutal people who take care of their own and don’t give two shits about others. I can respect that.

White Americans who accept that generic label, accept along with it this dream of being able to just sit on their butts, open their mouths, and get fat off of everyone else’s work. When that isn’t happening, they whine about it.

White Americans who accept that generic label, accept along with it this dream of being able to just sit on their butts, open their mouths, and get fat off of everyone else’s work. When that isn’t happening, they whine about it.

Yeah, that’s how America, indeed, the entire West, was built… buncha whites sittin’ on they keesters at traffic lights, eatin’ peanut butter sandwiches, while the Tuskegee Airmen singlehandedly took Berlin.

Greg, there’s what you mostly were, and then there’s mostly what you are now, which is weaker and more decadent. This generation has to prove itself like all before it and all will after. If you squander your inheritance being stupid, this is nobody else’s fault.

1. No matter where blacks encamp, they commit crimes all out of proportion than any other group there. Even in Sub-Saharan Africa, where they evolved, they still commit violent crime all out of proportion to non-blacks.

2. Blacks have two problems: low average IQ AND an anti-social, anti-civilization gene. Plenty of other human groups have had low IQ, but not an anti-social, anti-civilization gene. Those groups’ IQs improved as they were conquered or joined more intelligent tribes, because the base desire to assimilate and enjoy the fruits of civilization pushed them to select for IQ and more civilization. The Scottish, Irish, Welsh, Mongols, Germans, Turks, Italians, Swedes, Asiatic Indians, and a host of others were once amongst the dumb and violent.

However, through conquest and their joining other civilizations, their IQ improved and their coarse behaviors lessened. Why? Simple: they wanted to be civilized, and therefore self-selected for civilization. For example: 180 years after the potato famine, the vast, low-IQ, violent Irish slums are gone in the US, and the Irish-Americans run almost perfectly amongst the bell curve of intelligence, wealth, and crime.

Blacks, however, have never desired civilization, and therefore do not select for more civilized genes and intelligence, preferring their parasitic nature. They were on the same footing as the lowly Irish in the 1840s, both IQ and crime-wise, yet have not moved up at all since then.

Why? They simply have no desire to be more than mere violent beasts.

3. I knew too many solid black guys in the military to rant and rave about “niggers.”
—LMAO. Typical lefty “example-itis.” —-“I know a smart, good black guy, therefore statistics and group activity are bunk.”

Lefties never could do math. This is why we’re now confirmed to be Detroit in the next 20 years.

I’m starting to think the races that come from tropical climates just dont want to select for civilized genes like you said, or they actually can’t. Almost all the groups you listed that picked themselves up have evolved in a cold climate if we go by the climate theory. That’s all the more reason I say we just need to leave them the hell alone and let them evolve at their own pace. Letting their high IQ people immigrate simply does not seem like a good idea for the future of their societies. That just goes back to what Heartiste constantly says, whats good for the individual is not good for society.

Yes, whore, we know you believe that statistics make you personally better and more worthy to sit on your butt and have riches rain down on you with no effort on your part, than any darker skinned person in the world.

Nicole, sitting on their asses and collecting welfare has mainly been a minority thing. Blacks collect slightly more welfare than whites despite being only 12.5% of the population. For the record though, I want welfare gone for whites as well. They can get off their asses just like everyone else. Whites have done just fine without welfare up to this point. Our ancestors didnt need it and we don’t need it now.

Also, if you meant riches as in living in a first world society with high technology, well that was built by white people as a whole. We didn’t have that given to us with no effort on our part. We aren’t entitled to it, so if it destroyed, white people will pick ourselves up like we always have and rebuild it unless we are genetically wiped out.

There are no liberal elite, Canadian. “Liberal” and “conservative” are social engineering tools used to make the underlings believe they have a choice in how things are run. What they actually mean is something more like “we do you with lubrication” and “we do you dry”. The middle class and poor people only choose the apparent roughness of being screwed.

There will be no revolution until enough people understand this, and even then the current elite will just be replaced by dominants wielding a more slippery sort of lubricant.

The whole world is not the U.S. Bryan. The majority of Black people on this Earth do just fine without welfare, free education, or western style health care, and have done so for many thousands of years.

When White people would die from a minor flesh wounds, we, and by the way, many of your fellow but culturally inconvenient Europeans, were able to survive normal rites of passage that included cutting, piercing, and tattooing. The world wasn’t perfect, but people did just fine before the Church their greedy cohorts made slaves of most of you, and then tried to make slaves of everybody else.

The reason why most of you lose in these debates with me is because you honestly believe that this is about Whites vs. Blacks. This is about emotional and possibly spiritual sterility vs. fertility.

Canadian, you lose because you don’t see individuals, just statistics and then try to use the statistical points against individuals. It is a nonsensical and irrational way to argue.

Then when you bring up crime, the crimes your people don’t matter and the crimes of others do. You either think murder and theft is wrong or you don’t. If you do then there is enough murdering and thieving being done by people of a variety of colors that nobody can point the finger at another and say any are more or less prone to murder.

It’s murder if a cop kills without justification. It’s murder if a civilian kills without justification. It’s murder if a White person does it. It’s murder if a Black person does it. Murder is murder.

Until there are no White murderers, thieves, or other criminals, it doesn’t matter that there are proportionally more Black ones. It doesn’t matter because all the murdered people are equally dead, and all the violated are equally violated, and all ethnicities who still have criminals in them have equally not solved the problem of criminality in their ranks.

We won’t even get into poverty. You still have poor.

When you have solved all your problems, you won’t need to import workers from outside and then bitch about the fact that there are outsiders in your countries.

Until there are no White murderers, thieves, or other criminals, it doesn’t matter that there are proportionally more Black ones.

Nicole,

let me use your twisted logic to show you how wrong it is,

if I were to say,

“Until there are no black murderers thieves or other criminals, it does not matter that whites used blacks as slaves and hung them from trees and if whites start doing that again as they did in the past.

would you agree?

…

PS; My first language is French, My English is mostly self taught, it may not be obvious to you but my English is limited, yes it is, so it does not reflect my education level or intelligence.
If you want to debate in French then let’s go right here right now.

Until there are no White murderers, thieves, or other criminals, it doesn’t matter that there are proportionally more Black ones. It doesn’t matter because all the murdered people are equally dead, and all the violated are equally violated, and all ethnicities who still have criminals in them have equally not solved the problem of criminality in their ranks.

Negro hamster runs awfully fast.

Are you kidding? This is one of the most ridiculous things you’ve said yet, and that’s saying something.

This is like saying probability doesn’t matter… and that it’s no different living in Camden and Detroit than living in Seattle or Schenectady.

Sheesh… if your intention is to exasperate the audience so thoroughly with your negro apologetics that those willing to call you on your bullshit just give up in frustration, then congratulations… you’d driven me to that point before, and shame on me for letting time go by and being less ardent about shunning your inanities.

Canadian, if you extrapolated from what I said that I was justifying Black murderers by the fact that there are White murderers, then yet again, your professors have failed you. This time, your English professors.

Greg, again, you are getting frustrated because you consistently miss the point when I have done everything short of drawing cartoons to get you to understand. It is too much for your small mind, so it just keeps going over your head.

I figure at this point there is nothing to do but hope you’ll find some other blogger’s belief in freedom enough to exploit so the rest of us can get back to discussion of game without the place being filthed up with your whining about how Blacks are the scourge of humanity, or go build that great separatist utopia where, trust me, nobody will miss you.

I honestly do not care if you hate me and all Black people, think we’re horrible and doomed or whatever. Just get on with your walled city where you don’t have to have any contact with anybody else, even on the internet.

Well, by using language that implies I should view you as inherently superior, you believe you should have my unearned respect, and you’re bitching because you don’t have it.

So am I to believe that you, who can barely manage to tolerate having to earn respect, would be motivated to go out and earn money? Behave as a truly superior being in order to earn the natural right to be viewed as such?

White people who don’t bitch about having to earn respect or anything else, have my respect. I believe they are happy with the reality that nobody owes them any more than anybody owes me, and we get along.

You are an oversensitive, whining baby who needs to claim I have a low IQ, as if somehow having a high IQ, yet another accident of birth, makes you in some way more worthy of what…getting more stuff you’re too lazy to earn?

This is why I call you whore. If you were female, you’d be good for nothing else. It would not surprise me in the least if it were to come out that you are a male prostitute. You certainly do have a lot invested in grasping for some kind of esteem from others.

Whore, I get my self and external esteem from inventing useful things, creating works of art, and helping people in various ways. Many people aside of my child have better lives because I do what I do. Two are alive because I was in the right place at the right time with the right abilities.

I suppose that because I’m female, I don’t view getting laid as the ego booster that a man would, but I do know men who have accomplished things that I would consider greater achievements than cumming on a girl’s face. One can cum on a girl’s face for $20 or less in some places.

Would you like me to send you $20 so you can push away from keyboard bad assery and go cum on someone’s face now?

See, an anonymous person can claim that he is the king of whatever. I have an identity, and anybody who wants to know about me is welcome to explore. When they’re done, they can bandy my works and deeds about for open ridicule as they like. So we see that though I am not a man, I apparently have more balls than you.

As long as whites are the majority in the country, they’ll be considered an enemy that has to be cut down to size by minorities and disingenuous white liberals (DWLs). Only be revealing these unpleasant truths in unvarnished form can we hope to stem the tide of America’s collapse. Perhaps there is still time to convince just enough of the white liberals who voted Obama that they’ve made a terrible mistake, before demographic change consumes us. It’s not only in the interests of whites to avoid racial socialism, but all Americans. What’s happened to Detroit, L.A., Oakland, etc. is going to happen to America as a whole.

On the subject of HBD, I think people get a little too caught up on IQ differences, when I think the most important metric is survival. Whites aren’t reproducing and they’re slitting their own throats politically, it sounds like we’re on the bottom end of the survivability scale at this point. When it comes down to it, isn’t game about survival? Learning to attract and sleep with your pick of women is fun, but at some point you’ve got to let nature run its course. An alpha with no offspring by the end of his life is a chump in my opinion. I have good genetics so I’m going to be sure as hell they get passed on.

I predict within ten years legislatures and courts across this land will impose restrictions on the First Amendment.

Oh I have been thinking about that lately. The closer you guys come to being a socialized nanny state like the one I grew up with in Canada, that is what happens. No shit. Americans beware: first it is public health care, then it is public this and public that. Before you know it you are being sued and shut down because you said something hurtful (sniffle) on a blog. You think I’m kidding? Google Mark Steyn and the BC Human Rights Commission.

WTF? So what would be the point in seceding then? I don’t believe it. I think OK, AL, and TN would join TX. Maybe a few more southern states. Can’t wait for that to happen. It’s the only way out of our predicament.

If secession happens now, it won’t be red pill.
Even if it succeeds, whites will revert to ther punk weakness around women, and white betas will let them vote, encourage carreerism, let them ride the cock carousel etc…

Before you know it, birth rates will plummet and whites are going to either die or let immigration sustain their economy.

That’s what happened to North America and Europe during the last century. It wasn’t the fault of jews and cultural marxists, it was white men’s fault.
And that’s what will happen to any potential white nation until we understand again that women must be subjugated.

If TX rejoins Mexico – and NM follows suit – it won’t be all bad.
Means more beaches (Two Thumbs Up!!), plus some Senoritas who don’t suffer from the Princess Syndrome quite as badly as their Nortena sistahs do.
And who actually have manners.
Also, Los Vaqueros de Dallas finally get to play REAL home games.

“Even if it succeeds, whites will revert to ther punk weakness around women, and white betas will let them vote, encourage carreerism, let them ride the cock carousel etc…”

I agree; we have to suffer a lot more before most people realize what not to do in the new country. Whites haven’t suffered enough to understand why the USA failed. It’s got to be very bad before people understand what the hell happened to the USA not to repeat it.

What do you mean Whites haven’t suffered enough to understand why the USA failed? Some Whites have suffered plenty. This is part of my point in these conversations. People believe these myths that slavery and exploitation is something Whites did to Blacks instead of people doing to people. The U.S. was never a place where the poor of any color were shown any mercy until it was politically convenient to create an illusion of White privilege…that doesn’t actually feed any poor White people, just makes them feel better about starving and scraping since at least they’re not Black.

Cut a red swath up from the Gulf through the breadbasket to the Bakken Shale. Rockies and Midwest become purple buffer states. Not a formal succession, but a regional pact among formerly semi-sovereign states (and in the case of Texas, fully sovereign).

There are plenty of dormant federalist protections that simply require Texas-sized testicular fortitude to revivify. Repeal the 17th, promote the 10th, gerrymander, elevate citizenship requirements and robust interstate border controls à la Arizona, all-but abandon the second branch bureaucracy in a bid to reassert the primacy of the first, then starve the beast through the power of the purse.

Bring back the lowercase “u” in united States. The rest sorts itself out among the fifty “laboratories of democracy.” It won’t get as far as succession when the roaches realize that their meal ticket is departing. But the threat has to be credible.

It proceeds in stages. At every point along the progress they can avoid war through acts of reform and responsibility. Until then we have to get busy building extrapolitical leverage so that the squishes who represent us are inspired to call the blue state bluff. The white people’s Katrina going on in NJ/NY, the Bengazi scandal, and the fiscal cliff will focus the mind in the short term. Massive inflation, interest rates, anemic or negative growth, the reduction of our bond rating, and the implementation of Obamacare will “heighten the contradictions” continuously through 2016.

White man wakes up. In a start. But thanks to the result Tuesday, this time his eyes are wider open, knowing that simply running for caretaker of the welfare state will not do. Politicians focus when real (rather than rhetorical) pressure is brought to bear. The first term gave birth to the benign tea party. The next term will bring the “rough beast, its hour come round at last, / Slouch[ing] towards DC to be born.”

I don’t dabble into politics here because I believe game and political persuasions should be kept separate. Politics distorts the message, instead of focusing on the message you focus on the person.
You may try to stop it and deny however you like but at the end of the day, Liberalism will always prevail. What was radical 50 years ago is seen as the norm today. What’s even more ironic it’s generally the Conservatives that enforce the changes.
Black people were generally not a ‘menace’ in society until crack cocaine infiltrated them. Crack cocaine destroyed the black family (male headed) structure. This gave rise to the hip hop and BET culture which basically fucked the black community, instead of aiming to be a teacher, nurses, accountants, etc, from a young age they aim to be ‘baller’ or some kind of performance artist.
Well this is relates to the white community because of the rise in Meth amongst the white working class.
I don’t care about other races, blaming other races for what’s wrong with our own sounds very familiar indeed.

blah blah blah…more anti-white racist Bullshit.
Did you lift this stuff out of a Farrakhan speech, or was it Jesse Jackson?
Blacks were angels until the evil white CIA came along and forced them to smoke crack cocaine.

What are you advocating, a separate nation between whites and minorities. Yes of course keep living in your fantasy world, but at the end of the day Liberalism always prevail and they is absolutely nothing you all can do about it.

Because Ideologies based upon misplaced pity and naive optimism by the haves, and envy by the have-nots (who says hate fails?) succeed in environments where unnatural affiliations between disparate entities exist.

Don’t you so-called liberals, who pride yourselves on alleged reason, logic, and magnanimous feelings towards all creatures great and small, find it just a tad ironic when you describe as “hate” the very natural inclination of said creatures to be left alone, preferably amongst their own kind?

African-American society, while demonstrating a higher level of criminality, began to destabilise when feminists decided to copy the British “council estate” idea. As recently as the early Sixties, 100,000 out of approximately 16,000,000 African-Americans were incarcerated in federal prisons. In less than a decade, there were close to 1,000,000 African-Americans in prison. Crack cocaine was a decade away. Million dollar sports contracts for rookies (whether in sports, music or Hollywood) were a decade away. Political apologism (as in, “So what, he chopped of peoples heads for quarters!? He was abused as a child!), was also a decade away. The sole difference between African-Americans pre and post-Moynihan Report?

Close to 1,000,000 black women were given their own apartments, their own money and their own food vouchers from the government, as long as they
Never got married
And
Had children

And what happened? The most short-sighted women gobbled up government freebies like candy, then did the things that short-sighted women are known to do.
Chase alphas
Get knocked up during alcohol and drug binges
Ignore their children (while vilifying anyone who *dared* to question their parenting skills)
Commit petty crimes, then receive the pussy pass
Accept pats on the back from their liberal/feminist paymasters.

They taught their children by example. Their children, the vast majority of which never received any training in restraint or logic (no father in the home, remember), followed the teachings of their mothers. The girls became sluts, the boys became feral alphas with white knight tendencies (go on, talk shit to a ghetto dweller about his mother or his current girlfriend…) And the best part? Given the current state of the family in white America, its going to happen to you.

amen, heartiste. you know what you’re talking about. as do retrophoebia, bryan & whorefinder above. others have swallowed the media kool-aid dismissing IQ. fine, throw out 100 years of research & test standardizations, & go with academic achievement instead – same overlapping normal curves (with mean differences). Ability (high-g loadings) has powerful effects. races don’t differ much on low-g loaded tasks (e.g., “repeat these #’s) but they do on high-g loaded tasks (e.g., nonverbal analogies: “this shape goes to this shape, like this one goes to…”) & the higher the g-loading, the more “heritable” it is. this has been known & re-verified for a century. test publishers no longer release their data by race b/c the differences are always the same & they don’t want the bad publicity. to dismiss these facts is to shoot the messenger. heartiste is correct.

I have been a enthusiastic reader of your writings in the last 2 years. I have taught some of your ideas of how to be a alpha to my cousins who are in high and middle school. They were “nice guys”, now they are very different and very successful with girls. I have keep my young wife in line (slavish lol) using red-pill knowledge ( she’s is easily a 8). I agree 90% of what is said in this website about other issues without bias ( I’m Latino btw with no money).

Yeah, “ugly truths”–an important one being racist complainers are always blaming someone and bitching. Where ever do they get time to do their monumental White Heroism shit like murdering jews or lynching black people?

Do you think Thomas Edison or Stravinsky wasted much of their his time bitching about blacks or whoever was the current scapegoat?

You keep playing the “hate” bs, when it’s been explained ad nauseum that WNs just want to be left alone to pursue our own happiness and destiny, without the deleterious effect of contention and corruption from other races who would displace us or batten on the fruits of our achievements without so much as a thank you… which is what you see America has become.

In short, we LOVE our people… and only hate those who would do us harm… such as yourself.

Men of good will, no matter what race, are not our enemies.

As far as that Christian canard you keep trying, I told you before, you only make yourself look like even more of an ass when you, as an unbeliever, try to use our own religion against us.

The NT says in several places to for believers to “keep themselves separate” from those who would do them harm or prove spiritually uneven… and which I’ve quoted several times, verse and chapter. “What fellowship has light with darkness?” and “If they will not hear the Word, leave that town and knock the dust from your sandals.” That “knock the dust” is a very telling idiom for, not merely leaving, but totally shunning.

But you just keep coming back with the same old nuthin’. Consider this the last time I grace you with a reply on these issues.

Yeah, yeah, we get it already. Any dissent from the Comintern’s party line is “hatred” by definition. We’ve read our Alinsky. You apparently see no need to read him, as you are accidentally living his tactics, which you mistake as irrefutable truth.

Make an argument. Marshal some facts. You have our attention. Does the patent inability to defend your sentiments have no effect on your analysis? If you want to resolve our differences peaceably, you have to bring something greater to the deliberation than NUH UH!!!! Especially because that whole “peaceably” thing just lost a lot of favor among men on our side.

If you were a gun owner you’d have a clue. We don’t arm ourselves because of the inevitability of our having to use our weapons. We arm ourselves to give our word heft, and to be prepared for every contingency. Contrary to your Hollywood education of my culture, preparation has a calming effect, allowing for rationality all-around.

Your irrational taunting has the opposite effect. There is only so much personal disparagement a man of honor will take from pipsqueaks or governments. Still less will we abet the permanent construction of institutionalized disparagement against our own kind. And I’m not talking about sassy minorities and self-hating cunts making fun of the white man as a sitcom staple. I’m talking about your reflexive classification of our way of life as hateful or dishonest or pathological at its essence.

I am willing to listen to your case, if you have one. But the “listening tour” is rapidly drawing to an end. Better to jaw-jaw than to war-war, sure, but the quality of your gibberish makes me want to reach for violence just to relieve us of the prison of predictability. What have you got, besides the usual shame tactics that were already moldy during the Civil Rights and Archie Bunker era?

Just looked at Amazon and found 3500+ titles which were recordings of or books about Stravinsky’s groundbreaking work of genius. This is 100 years after it premiered, so it’s a little hard to dismiss it as a “flash in the pan.” No, art that survives through the ages due to lasting quality is by definition “classical” in my book, in that it embodies indestructible beauty
beauty from perfection of form.

tYou know, you ought to write them and let them all those thousands of authors and performers, probably smarter and better people than you themselves, to stop admiring Stravinsky.

As a final terrifying threat, you could threaten to stop letting them sell all those books written about _you_ and _your_ accomplishments.

This place is full of sub-mediocre, muttering racists and it’s important to refocus on people who do great things instead of the scapegoats Little Angry White Men ™ (LAWMs) choose to badmouth.

Move on UP, guys! You too can get to the level of grinning salesmen selling McMansions.

I never said Stravinsky was a flash in the pan… I merely said he was third-tier… there are probably thousands of books written about the alleged “genius” of Shoenberg, Berg, et. al., as well… yet their music remains virtually unlistenable except to the ears of the culture-vultures who determine what does or doesn’t get touted as “genius” this past century.

500 years from now, if there are any white folks left, the strains of Bach will still be heard in the churches and concert halls… the average man in the street will still be humming The Blue Danube and dancing to other Strauss waltzes… Wagner’s and Mozart’s and Verdi’s and Pucinni’s operas will still be dazzling the stages wherever white men hold sway.

Stravinsky will take his place as a curious footnote… doesn’t mean he’s not without some interest… merely that he’s, and I repeat, third tier.

If you want to give examples of genius, you can do better… that was my point.

Greg Eliot
BTW, what exactly have you done, besides bitch and complain about WNs under false stereotypes and typical tired cliched epithets that mean nothing
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Ive fucked a lot of white girls who thought I hated white people. I was unwilling to set back race relations for my own selfish ideology.

I can not speak for others, but I do not think blacks can not be logical or articulate.

I have never called a black person a ni**er and I think I never will.
I do not hate black people, I hate what white liberals are doing to white people.

Of course some blacks are very intelligent, educated, logical, rational, articulate, creative, successful, honest and decent people

but…

if you look at what is going on in the USA, if you look at the numbers, a smaller proportion of blacks are like that compared to whites or Asians ( that is why affirmative action is failing )

and if you look at crime rates, blacks commit about 80 % of crimes. They commit a far higher rate of crime than whites.

they have the highest rates of teen pregnancies and so on and so forth

Since the 1960s the USA has been bending over backwards to help blacks trough affirmative actions and a million other things and the USA has spent billions and billions of dollars helping the black community, but they are not getting much results.

If “white America” has been doing all of that for over 50 years and is getting almost no results, then how is it the white man’s fault if blacks still do not perform well in school or commit more crimes?

And how is whites spending billions and billions of dollars on helping the black community get an education, afford to buy a house and a million other things , how is that white supremacism????

isn’t it the exact opposite?

it seems the more white people do to help blacks , the more blacks accuse white people of racism and of white supremacism…

and if you look at crime rates, blacks commit about 80 % of crimes. They commit a far higher rate of crime than whites.

they have the highest rates of teen pregnancies and so on and so forth

Since the 1960s the USA has been bending over backwards to help blacks trough affirmative actions and a million other things and the USA has spent billions and billions of dollars helping the black community, but they are not getting much results.
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I do not want to hang them from trees because I do not hate black people.

I hate the lies we are supposed to swallow about their dysfunction.

As long as white liberals and blacks deny there is a problem, nothing will get better.
in fact things will get worse as they are now

One of my friend ( white but that is besides the point ) used to get drunk three times a week and his wife was about to lose her mind because of all the trouble he was causing such as vomiting in their nice living room or in their nice car as he was too drunk to know what the fuck he was doing.

I tried to make him face his demons ( not in a religious sense, as I am not a religious man ) NOT because I hated him or wanted him to hang from trees but for his own good and to help his poor wife.

My point is that pointing out the dysfunction of someone is not equal to hating them

and trying to make them admit there is a problem so they can tackle it is not equal to hatred.

As long as blacks and white liberals deny there is such a thing as black dysfunction ( which does not mean ALL blacks suffer from it ) nothing will change.

that is not hatred, that is working towards a solution.

and if the only solution is for some states to secede from ” darker ” states , then this will not be out of hatred either.

who wants to have their cities turn into Detroit just to avoid being called racist?

Do you think Thomas Edison or Stravinsky wasted much of their his time bitching about blacks or whoever was the current scapegoat?

Well when there are so few black people around causing trouble or taking your place in a university or suing you for racism , then white people can focus on inventing the light bulb or creating beautiful Symphonies

and if it weren’t for those white people, there would be no light bulbs .

why are you using examples of geniuses who were white?

was it hard to find blacks who have contributed to this wonderful thing we call Western civilization?

face reality;

according to best science we have, blacks have been around for 150,000 years ( much longer than Caucasians who have been around for maybe 60,000 years), yet Africans have never invented a written language nor have they developed anything close to science and technology.

your comment was posted to bash white people but it accomplished the opposite.

This is full of falsities. Use google! He is not trying to bash whites, it seems like you are hyper-sensitive to any comment that can be misconstrued to fit your thinking. Lol, its sad to see you be so blind like it’s sad to see a dog chase it’s own tail.

Greg, here’s your example of white supremacy programming. Consider that how you were educated and how this guy was, is how Black children in the U.S. are also being taught, and how western agencies in Africa are attempting to “educate” African children. They’re told day in and day out that they never produced anything good and never will.

Despite all of the obvious historical and archaeological evidence, and all the Africans doing great things today, they are brainwashed into thinking they are inherently inferior and bonus, ugly.

Under such conditions, what do you expect from people except to be what they are told they are? Most people are not independent thinkers.

This is a manufactured enemy. Like Palestinians are for Israelis, Black people are America’s boogey-men set up to give you a convenient distraction from the truth. They are the threat that your leaders claim to be protecting you from, when they are the very ones creating the monsters.

Again, for your own sakes, please wake up. We are the posts in the electric fence around the plantation in your mind.

Despite all of the obvious historical and archaeological evidence, and all the Africans doing great things today, they are brainwashed into thinking they are inherently inferior and bonus, ugly.

Oh, puh-leeze! For the past two to three generations, it’s been nothing but “BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL!” and Black History Month pretty much all year long, touted by the schools and corporations, achievements both real and imagined (witness one ad awhile back with a poster showing Hannibal looking like James Earl Jones… and don’t even get me started on Cleopatra).

Add to that the culture of entitlement and revenge. Sports figures aplenty, touted as if gods, and cries from all quarters for REP-AH-RA-SHUNS!

Two to three generations of “Black is Beautiful”? Oh I see. This is like the White Egypt thing. In your version of history, nobody had a written language until Anglos brought it to them, nobody has a history before then either, and Santa Claus in the sky sends all nonbelievers to hell because they don’t believe in Serapis-Jupiter-Jesus-Jingleheimer or whatever.

… if anything, negroes nowadays suffer from a bloated sense of self-esteem and arrogance, not inferiority complexes.

Exactly.

I have read extensively on the topic and although the left has managed to brainwash almost everyone into believing blacks suffer from an inferiority complex, the exact opposite is true and this bloated self esteem is why they do what they do such as threatening to set the white house on fire if their favorite black is not elected…

if anyone suffers from an inferiority complex it is whites; they are in an advanced state of self loathing, they are teaching their own kids that whites are bad and blacks are good, multiculturalism and replacing your kind with colored immigrants – an exclusively white thing – is suicide.

people do not commit suicide out of a sense of bloated self esteem; Whites despise themselves and feel inferior to blacks

people do not feel entitled to having a man of the color of their skin as president out of of a lack of self confidence but out of a bloated sense of self esteem and high levels of arrogance

The usual negro-babble obfuscation… many ancient peoples had written languages… but Sub-Saharan negroes were not one of said peoples… and all your snark about Jesus and Santa Claus, and all your Afrocentrist non-education is not going to put Humpty together again.

First off, it’s only arrogance if it’s unfounded. People who have accomplished things have a right to feel good about their accomplishments. People who haven’t probably don’t, but then that puts them on the same level as you, Greg, and Canadian, who haven’t even managed to accomplish reading the news on the same internet you visit this blog on.

I mean, if you’re going to claim knowledge on a subject, it helps to study it first. You don’t know basic biology or genetics. You don’t know basic cultural anthropology or world history. It would surprise me if you could find Egypt on a map…and if you can’t then it’s Black people’s fault. You’ll find a way to make yourselves believe that.

Second north Africa is still Africa. Sub saharan cultures had a rich symbology and numbers, but simply did not need a written language as in an alphabet, to function well. You may hold the opinion that this made them less “advanced” or “civilized”, but I consider it amazing. Many Native American cultures also had no written language, and managed just fine.

So if you want to hold this against people, that they thrived without a need for an alphabet, then this is your prerogative.

The “no written language” thing is but one manifestation of (ahem) less advancement than other cultures… some of which are now being falsely claimed to have been surpassed and/or comprised of one’s own.

Disparaging and gainsaying anti-white propaganda is but one small aspect of ‘fighting the good fight’… and judging by the increasing boldness of whites on this site alone to stand up to the bullshit over the past few months, I’d say there’s some important work going on right now.

Nicole, you’re fighting the good fight here. I especially enjoyed your point about the manufacturing of an enemy.

If you tell someone something long enough, that person eventually believes it. And our society has been telling black people “you suck” for four hundred years. It only changed very, very recently.

Greg Eliot will never agree with this — he would prefer to weigh broad civilizational accomplishments against one another (which Europeans clearly win) — and then use that as evidence that individual blacks are worthless, period, end of story.

It’s a trick. It looks at the aggregate, and ignores individual contributions. The more appropriate way of measuring people’s worth is to judge them as individuals. But Greg Eliot wouldn’t ever do that — it would require bringing down a lifetime of deeply instilled stereotypes inside this thick kraut skull.

You don’t know basic biology or genetics. You don’t know basic cultural anthropology or world history. It would surprise me if you could find Egypt on a map…and if you can’t then it’s Black people’s fault.

you are funny!

how could you possibly know how much I or anyone here knows about anthropology, genetics or history?

we have not talked about electronics nor mechanical engineering in which I hold degrees, could you tell that from my comments?

really you could?

you are funny!

and saying we blame blacks for our alleged ignorance is beyond ludicrous as it is blacks and white liberals who blame everything on white people all the time!

in fact you yourself are doing exactly that here day in day out; it is all whitey’s fault if blacks can not do well in the USA

Canadian, I know more because I study more, and live in pursuit of greater knowledge. I have also led a rather full and interesting life. I have inhaled a combination of burning flesh and plastic from a terrorist bombing that happened a short distance from my flat. I was here and had my windows and floors shaken from bombs falling a little bit farther, but still a few minutes walking distance as well, during a war.

…and I have been told by people who’ve experienced nothing extraordinary, and who don’t bother to read anything but comic books, that I am somehow inherently lesser than them because of my color and what they think is my only ethnicity.

How could I possibly know more? Because I want knowledge and truth, and you just want someone to kiss your ass for being born. That’s how. Because at the age when you were still figuring out how to not piss yourself, I was reading, writing, and taking machines apart and putting them back together. That’s how.

Because even as a baby, I did not cry. I listened. I watched. I learned, and when I had what to say, I spoke…and yes, I scared people with that.

So for you to decide that just because my skin is brown, I must be dumb and worthless well…You are welcome to your opinion, but like most of what you post, it would be uneducated.

See, Canadian, when you pull your head out of your butt and see the world for what it is, or about as close as a human can tell, you can see when people are full of crap. I seriously doubt you went to any university, and if you did, they failed you terribly. Maybe you just went to one of those debt generators that are really just glorified trade schools.

Greg Eliot will never agree with this — he would prefer to weigh broad civilizational accomplishments against one another (which Europeans clearly win) — and then use that as evidence that individual blacks are worthless, period, end of story.

Lying sack of shit… try reading what I actually say, rather than wrongly interpolating it into what you THINK I mean, you stupid little twit.

I disagree with you and I think you are using your intelligence to try and sell us a lie but I never said you were dumb.

I also have said a lot of bad things about white liberals but you do not accuse of me of calling them stupid because of the color of their skin.

I said to Thwack that I do not hate black people but I hate white liberals.

but you are not telling me I said that because of the color of their skin.

don’t you see your accusations of racism are ridiculous and only help people who disagree with you?

you are making things up and then pretend I said them and then use those fabricated things to call me racist.

I don’t think you are dumb or worthless, I would say you have an above average IQ and you are obviously articulate .

But Just like the typical liberal you use your intelligence to try and convince everyone of things that are not so.

you fall into paralogisms, you make complicated ideas seem logical and true but they are not. ( unless you intentionally want to deceive us in which case you are into sophisms )

High IQ liberals are good at brainwashing people but being good at making people believe things that are not true does make those things true.

one last thing,

I am 53 years old, I doubt I was learning not to piss myself when you were in school, I am probably older than you are

so you are wrong on that too BUT not because of the color of your skin, because you think like a typical liberal or like a woman … which is pretty much the same as both liberals and women “think” with their emotions and fall into a lot of paralogisms

it hurts you that blacks do not have an advanced civilization and do not have a written language thus have no written history so you try and make convoluted arguments to try and make us believe they did, and you do that because you refuse to deal with the truth as it is too unpleasant.

that is basically what liberalism is,lying about the truth because the truth is unpleasant

you are not dumb or worthless

but lying about truths because they are unpleasant to you is not the best thing you could do with your intelligence…

Greg, whatever I list, you will minimize the importance of, but the onus is not on me to prove greater advancement, a higher level of honor and integrity, or level of achievement here. I am Black, and you are supposed to prove how the statistically higher IQ of your people and lower (non institutional) crime rate makes you better than me or more entitled to anything that you did not earn than me.

Since Black people never invented anything or have done anything to contribute to humanity, and I am Black, you are going to explain how I exist.

Jason, thank you for the compliments. It is nice to be noticed by sane people. I am not however, fighting for tolerance. I am arguing for the total separation and self sufficiency of anyone who is a separatist of any race. Let them find a corner someplace where everybody looks like them, and nobody outside tries to live with them or do business with them, and let them have their own utopias where they can be stable. I’d say even build a great wall around each of them so nobody can get in or out.

Canadian, it does not hurt me that subsaharan Africans did not have and did not need high infrastructure or a written language to survive for many thousands of years. It only proves that we’re smart enough not to defecate on our own plates, and therefore could get away with and thrive in conditions that would and did kill most of you within a year without us to guide you.

What hurts me is that you believe that this entitled anyone to do what was done in Africa. Do you believe that the Romans and their agents were entitled to do what they did to Europe? Do you think Charlamagne was correct in his burning of villages and mass murder of dissenters?

Do you honestly think that it’s all okay because it brought you Jesus?

When a person refuses to see the truth it is always because it is unpleasant.

Blacks tend to not do well in school compared to whites and Asians, it hurts you so you deny it or make excuses for it.

Blacks never came up with a written language and have no written history, they never invented the wheel, it is unpleasant for you that is why you try to make us believe that a few artifacts and a few mud huts are just as important as Isaac Newton figuring out the laws of physics

” that subsaharan Africans did not have and did not need high infrastructure or a written language to survive for many thousands of years. It only proves that we’re smart enough not to defecate on our own plates,”

Hyenas, lizards and insects and even mold have survived for thousands even millions of years, and they did it without much or any intelligence at all,
surviving is not a measure of intelligence.

building a robot called Curiosity and managing to make it land on planet mars is.

“we’re smart enough not to defecate on our own plates,”

well…only a few months ago on the news hour on PBS they had a report on some white people who were trying to get some villagers some place in Africa to stop letting their cattle defecate in the same pond where they drank water which made them very sick. Of course the Africans had no idea what made them sick, it could white people to explain it to them.

” and therefore could get away with and thrive in conditions that would and did kill most of you within a year without us to guide you.””

not entirely true, not entirely false, as it goes ” both ways ”
when Europeans came to America the natives did not have the anti-bodies to fight germs that Europeans carried with them and millions of natives died both in South and North America.

” Do you honestly think that it’s all okay because it brought you Jesus?”

HUH??? I went to the trouble of saying I am not a religious man at all!

Greg, whatever I list, you will minimize the importance of, but the onus is not on me to prove greater advancement, a higher level of honor and integrity, or level of achievement here.

Likewise, no matter what I say, you either conveniently ignore it, throw some distractions about, or claim some Afrocentrist bullshit against whitey.

And for the record, I never put any onus on you to prove anything until you through out the inane ad hominem about what ‘suprerior’ things I might have done… and which I had already mentioned at least several times that, at a minimum, I at least raised numerous children to a highly productive citizenship level.

I am Black, and you are supposed to prove how the statistically higher IQ of your people and lower (non institutional) crime rate makes you better than me or more entitled to anything that you did not earn than me.

Again, you keep playing the same stupid record that has nothing to do with anything… all WNs ask for is to be left alone with their own kind to pursue their particular folk’s destiny… without the deleterious interference of other races who seek to eradicate us. We happily grant the same to other races.

Beyond that, I made no mention of entitlements, except the right to survive as a people and simply be left alone.

This seems to stick in your craw in particular, and your race’s collective craw in generation, seeing the way you strive to insinuate yourselves into our societies, while we do all we can to avoid yours.

Since Black people never invented anything or have done anything to contribute to humanity, and I am Black, you are going to explain how I exist.

I never said this… others have, and I don’t agree, but that’s not my battle. How or why you yourself exist, well… again, that has nothing to do with anything, and you really should stop with this sort of babble, because it can’t be taken seriously and tends to obviate anything grains of wheat that might appear amid all the chaff.

You call me derogatory names, but when I tell you to justify your presumed place to demean me, it’s ad hominem.

How about we keep this simple. Please go be on your own with all people like you and leave everyone else everywhere else alone. Nobody here but maybe two or three other idiots who you claim to be different from and yet chime in to defend, wants you here since you filth up the place with your racist attempts to shame the men here who don’t particularly enjoy having their balls in an ethnic vice.

Since you’re so quick to jump to their aid against me, the “negro apologist”, you can offer your daughters up to whorefinder, uh, and canadian friend for a gang bang so they can gain some much needed self esteem by cumming on her “Aryan” face.

Since you’re so against miscgenation, and mischlings like myself, I’m sure you’ll be proud to have some good, strapping Aryan men splooge on her delicate lily white skin. Or hey, if we go by realistic character assessments, whorefinder can fill her orifices and impregnate her, uh can marry her and raise the child as his own, and after she dumps him and takes half of whatever little he owns, canadian friend can settle for the sloppy thirds.

If you think you’ll be better off without any of us, I salute and encourage you to avoid us at all costs. Start right now.

a) complains about getting called derogatory names, but never hesitates to do the same, including disparaging remarks about sanity, fitness, sexuality, etc.

b) complains about the “racist” toothpick in the other guy’s eye, but ignores the fencepost in her own bad-mouthing and false accusations against whites… which, by the way, lead to much of the RAYCISS! backlash against her screeds.

c) and, of course, like the rest of her odious fellow-travelers, when they’ve been outgunned on this forum, brings in the snide comments about my family and sexual degradation. Where have we heard this before?

Nothing like a full-blown… and I do mean full-blown Negress who tries to pass herself off as some sort of mischling, yet can’t but help show her truly despicable heart of darkness.

The 3 biggest alpha players I know personally are all IQ 120+, maybe more. I do not personally know a single alpha who is stupid (sure, there must be a few, but I guess they are successful mainly because their looks make them self-assured so they end up adopting alpha manners, on top of their good looks).

On the other hands, I have friends with very good looks who could be Homeric players. The problem is, they are not very smart and are unable to grasp even the basics of game. What´s worse: presented with time proven chateau wisdom, they ignore and even dismiss it, thinking it´s some kind of random and eccentric false doctrine – or that you are just somehow showing off and trying to pass as someone who – God forbid! – knows more than them. Betatude will see them to the grave. And I feel they deserve it.

Gentlemen, most people´s low-IQ (and, sometimes utter imbecility, as is, sadly, one of my friends´ case) is the guarantee that game will remain the preserve of a few privileged men. And this men´s IQ won´t be low.

Oh, and I forgot to mention one more thing:
A high IQ also helps you to realize, by independent observation and analysis (as opposed to mindless acceptance of the received wisdom), that the principles posited at the honorable château actually correspond with reality. One has to observe things and notice (often subtle) patterns, paradoxes and so on to start drawing an ever dense web of conclusions and learn how to psychologically manage the pussy-mind system. This is precisely the kind of things that low IQ people are *not* good at.

I live in an area that’s full of inbred, addlepated white persons, (Scots Irish and Dust Bowl Oakie-kin, mostly) many of whom are the product of internecine matings. As a result of grandpa rape, serial incest, and multiple generations worth of genetic tomfoolery, we have women here who are literally grandmothers before they reach 30 and great grandmas before they hit menopause. Often family compounds will support 20-30 individuals, a high percentage of whom are “special”. Need I mention the vast majority subsist on SSI disability or have county make-work jobs? And don’t even get me started on the men. It would take five generations of selective breeding to bring this sampling back into the range of normal.

Ironically, the biogeneticists, the judges and theoretical physicists, CPA’s and university professors up here are varying degrees of Black/South Asian, and the Hispanic descendants of the original Spanish land grants are the venture capitalists, land developers, and major political players. The one Oriental family runs the area’s only public school.

So by your standards, it’s whities like me who should be socially-euthanized in the interests of protecting the group IQ and civility. Personally, I take exception to that.

Maybe the issue isn’t race per se so much as it is a mindset? Namely, that the ability to breed at will and have the State support the result is a human right. Over the course of a generation, we need to change that perception.

I’d start with requiring — at the very least– the equivalent of a driver’s license in order to breed on the public dime; I’m talking being at least 16 years old and showing basic competency here, like the ability to read and write coherently, provide perhaps the same food and shelter one would a corgi. After all, you have to take a test to get behind the wheel legally, and you have to assume financial responsibility for your screw-ups. Why not require the same for prospective baby mamas/daddies?

-Put something in the public water supply and require a breeding license for the counteragent. Or alternately, offer a long-acting contraceptive at puberty.
-Make birth control and abortion free, socially acceptable, and easily accessible to all.
-After a thorough, years-long public information campaign announcing the policy change, and after ensuring that abortion services are readily available, deny public money benefits to any person breeding without a license and immediately chemically sterilize anyone who applies for public money to support said child. Male and female.

And finally, and this is where I would anticipate a hue and outcry, I’d give girls who sign up for the program at puberty a money stipend (a significant one) for every year they DON’T get pregnant up to the age of 22. This money could only be used as a Pell Grant to further their academic education or learn a trade. (I’m afraid that offering it up to boys who don’t impregnate people would open up huge opportunities for corruption and fraud, so pardon my sexism here.)

Sound draconian? No more so than the implied totalitarianism of your essay.

By eliminating the financial incentive in baby-making as a career alternative, we can address the myriad economic and demographic issues that contribute to overpopulation, crime, and mal-allocation of public resources.

2 simple questions:
From what standard do you assess what is “better” for society as a whole? If you look closely, you”ll see that which you define as “better” is really only what furthers your interests. Nothing wrong with that, such is the way of the animal kingdom. But don’t pretend its anything but that.

Second: How do you define “white”? Your allegiance to an overly simplistic term (like other similar terms such as “black”) underlies the weakness in your overall analysis. It would be non-sensical to suggest there aren’t biological differences between humans that reflect evolutionary adaptions, but its equally non-sensical to suggest such differences can be accurately and usefully categorized through the concept of race and its usual language.

Au contraire. I’ve yet to see a non-white person with amped-up game. All the problem-solvers, the leaders, all the guys who work late, are white. Non-whites tend toward complacency.

Additionally, whites must punch above their income weight just to secure a house or an apartment. Every white person’s college / post-college experience is the same: look through for-rent ads. Right off the bat all the ads below a certain (affordable) amount are understood as non-options.

America subjects its white population, younger ones in particular, to pressures that UN Charter for Human Rights classifies as genocide.

PA
necessity has caused a lot of nonwhite people to amp up their game.

Au contraire. I’ve yet to see a non-white person with amped-up game. All the problem-solvers, the leaders, all the guys who work late, are white. Non-whites tend toward complacency.
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Bla bla bla….

But the key is:

Under no circumstances do you want to be nonwhite.

Thats they key; that white classification is still the gold standard everywhere in the known universe.

With all you said about the “suffering of the white man…” you are clear about wanting to be a white person.

*note to nonwhite people*

When a person identifies themselves as a “white person” they are informing you of their knowledge of AND position in the power dynamic (white supremacy)

This is why white people are often reluctant to answer “yes” when you ask them:

That is not true. White women like Jessica Alba (75% White) or Halle Berry (50% White) classify their even more White kids as … BLACK. To be Black, NOW, is to be blessed with AA advantages. If you can talk in standard English, and won’t do cocaine in public, you can pretty much write your own ticket.

By contrast NO ONE claims Whiteness. See White Elizabeth Warren, who falsely claimed to be an American Indian. Non-White privileges are already having Whites claiming to be non-White. Which IS creating a spoils battle, one that is going to be ugly and bloody.

Tiger Woods is my favorite example. IIRC, his mom’s all Thai, his dad half Black, how does he qualify for ‘African-American’? If he’s anything other than a multi-racial mutt, he’s ‘Asian-American’. But that’s not ‘sexy’ enough for the media.
As for Natives, their genes are very recessive. 2-3 generations down the line, you can’t tell someone who’s part Apache from a White person. My area has the 2nd highest percentage of Natives in the nation, my Ex is Native, I have something of a front row seat at that game. Claiming Native heritage isn’t new, either. Back in the 80’s, about half the US college students I met in Europe claimed to be ‘part Cherokee’, because it was ‘cool’.
Why Cherokee?
Not sure, prolly the only tribe they knew……

Mark Lindsay had a hit song about the Cherokee nations, so voila… I still remember laughing out loud, back in the day, when this buxom blonde Amazon of a girl who looked like she just fell out of Valhalla boasted of being “part Cherokee”.

Dude, why bother with that thing anymore? I don’t know what he is, I don’t care: all he has to offer is the usual self-sustaining fiction given to his kind by Jew agitators.

We have to move on from engaging coloreds. They won’t listen because they are not us. This isn’t a war of ideas — it is a war of genes, for resources.

All they have ever wanted was stuff, just as that mammy said. Whitey bused them to white schools, built Job Corps everywhere, restructured legislation to favor them above all others … and still whitey is da evo’ keepa of da gibsmedats.

But I do it, not to convince the enemy, but to give solace to the dispossessed and those who know something’s wrong, but don’t know how to fight it yet.

They’ve heard the claptrap over the media and in schools for so long go unchallenged, I’m hoping it lifts their spirits to hear a few of us fight back the snark and regain some of the ACTUAL moral highground.

“Dude, why bother with that thing anymore? I don’t know what he is”
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Listen “uhg” or whatever the fuck your name is. Greg Elliot can more than handle himself against any comers; he’s the smartest cracker in the room so get off his dick. In addition, he’s produced a gank of white children which is more than many of you pussy beggers have contributed to the cause.

If people understood HBD, more effective and efficient methods could be taken to contain black dysfunction and (if desired) to help uplift the lives of black people to some reasonable level. I’d prefer giving them some states of their own and a BIG severance package and letting them take care of themselves, but reasonable people can disagree on that,

By ignoring the truth, we’re wasting billions of dollars on programs that cannot work because they are based on false premises. That’s just stupid no matter what your goal is and it is gumming up the works of our civilization. Our aversion to the truth is a big part of why China is surpassing us.

There are a couple of leftists on this board who will challenge this idea or dismiss it as irrelevant. There are other libertarians, CH included, who will claim party affiliation to be beneath them.

Conservatism in a liberal democratic republic (all in the classical sense, not the Newspeak modern sense) such as ours means we are the partisans of liberty. Liberty requires responsibility and a robust defense of its prerogatives. In other words, it requires manliness, just as striking out for the frontier required it. The courage to demand and maintain one’s liberty is identical to the courage of taking the red pill. Notwithstanding the loud outliers who often post here, the overlap of constituencies is almost total.

The outliers are the exceptions that prove the rule: their understanding of game and their understanding of politics arrived along separate tracks, and so they have not reached back far enough in their formation to understand where they must converge. For the rest of us, game is manliness is politics is liberty is culture is war.

As for those who fancy themselves sophisticated for rejecting the Republican label, they are simply not familiar with the limited function of parties and, like the leftists, mistake politics for an all-encompassing faith. In other words, they imagine that aligning with someone who shares seven of ten policy preferences is a 30% betrayal. Unfortunately, without the organizing principle of malleable party goals (e.g., Democrats dominated the south for a hundred years), you are reduced to a Ron Paulist/Ralph Naderite/Ross Perotian rump.

You are foolish expending your electoral energy attempting to destroy what amounts to a neutral party system. Rather, you must work within a “big tent,” assemble intramural pluralities, and rely upon federalist strategies to make your preferences real. The NRA shows the way: by working through statehouses and assemblies, they eliminated what used to be a controversial national issue to their advantage by operating under the radar.

Agreed save the NRA is now history. Obama will by fiat (Signing the UN Small Arms Treaty) eradicate the Second Amendment and simply seize all guns held by private people. The weakness of the party system is that it can by hijacked by massive cheating and thuggery. See Obama. I have no doubt Roberts is banging his 20 something law clerk (and yes, most young women ARE sluts, see Lewinsky, Monica and Levy, Chandra) which is what Obama has on him. So no, the Constitution is just a piece of paper.

That’s the end point. No politics. Because there are no checks and balances. Whatever the NRA did, it was just a delaying tactic. Supremes have held treaties over-ride the Constitution. Obama has no checks.

The Small Arms Treaty already has fifty-one senators publicly pledged against. It will be rejected by the Senate, with alacrity.

Just like the Law of the Sea Treaty was. Just like, for that matter, the League of Nations was. That 2/3rds requirement is a real bitch for technocrat tyrants depending on the ratchet effect.

A 48% plurality has a lot of power in a constitutional republic outside of postmodern celebridential contests that bring the Obamaphone ladies out of their hovels. Perhaps even supreme power. If and when we press this advantage smartly, like the NRA has, who will rise in opposition? Majoritarianism terrified the founders, and because of their fears of the mob, they left in place plenty of failsafes for us to relax a bit. Be vigilant, not careless, but not paranoid.

When they start messing with our republican protections, we are smart enough to fight, even in the case of extraconstitutional hedges like the Senate’s filibuster.