you cant even possibly claim that it has direct access to windows DLLs or Office interop, these are exclusive to .NET because it is a windows product.nice try.also direct access to windows DLLs was added when windows 8 was released, I doubt python already has the same feature.

KthProg wrote:you cant even possibly claim that it has direct access to windows DLLs or Office interop, these are exclusive to .NET because it is a windows product.nice try.also direct access to windows DLLs was added when windows 8 was released, I doubt python already has the same feature.

If you did a little more research I think you'd be pretty suprised by how wrong you are on basically everything you've stated here in this thread.

LOL

I agree with you that the multitude of Linux distros can be annoying to develop and test for and taking your argument for an "Official Nix" further to an "Official OS" would certainly make things a little easier for a programmer. But that is simply unrealistic and a step back technologically in light of code sharing and competition. It sounds like you're just getting a taste of the power of the unix way via a cross-platform language and there might be a little confusion. Heredocs and command substitution for example are unixy things predating the invention of Ruby and Windows.

Saying things like *nix is underdeveloped, vb is the only language with "with" and admitting that your *nix experience is limited to a chapter in a book about Ruby is.... WTF

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Just wanted to add that while getting some experience with *nix is a good thing and just about any of them will work, I think some are better than others for the purpose of learning Unix. I'd recommend something "Pure" like one of the BSDs or something like Arch or Debian.

tgoe wrote:Saying things like *nix is underdeveloped, vb is the only language with "with" and admitting that your *nix experience is limited to a chapter in a book about Ruby is.... WTF

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Just wanted to add that while getting some experience with *nix is a good thing and just about any of them will work, I think some are better than others for the purpose of learning Unix. I'd recommend something "Pure" like one of the BSDs or something like Arch or Debian.

If I only I would have read this thread sooner. OP, you can't base your knowledge off of one source, even so a source that you may be misinterpreting.. *Nix is in no way underdeveloped in comparison to Windows. They're two different operating systems serving two different missions.

I said I thought it might be the only language using with statements (not my fault somebody else claimed that on the internet)Also relative to Windows *nix systems are less developed.by this i mean theres nothing you cant do in windows that you can do in *Nix but the opposite is not true.I was making a case for using Ruby over other scripting languages not trying to say that all of Rubys features are unique.

so what it is that you're arguing about im not sure.

Im just saying Ruby is imo the best scripting language(i read 7 chapters btw) thats 1/3 of the book.and saying that unix systems, since they have a better CLI, are more suited for scripting in Ruby.

what exactly are you disagreeing with?

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Im actually going to switch back to ubuntu for a little bit for my entertainment now lolPluses so far knowing nothing about Ubuntu.its a little more responsive than WIndows and formats content better.How do I use CLI for Ubuntu???its a little slower than windows though....as far as opening software anyways.it has better privacy optionsthunderbird is awesome

tgoe wrote:If you did a little more research I think you'd be pretty suprised by how wrong you are on basically everything you've stated here in this thread.

LOL

I agree with you that the multitude of Linux distros can be annoying to develop and test for and taking your argument for an "Official Nix" further to an "Official OS" would certainly make things a little easier for a programmer. But that is simply unrealistic and a step back technologically in light of code sharing and competition. It sounds like you're just getting a taste of the power of the unix way via a cross-platform language and there might be a little confusion. Heredocs and command substitution for example are unixy things predating the invention of Ruby and Windows.

Saying things like *nix is underdeveloped, vb is the only language with "with" and admitting that your *nix experience is limited to a chapter in a book about Ruby is.... WTF

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Just wanted to add that while getting some experience with *nix is a good thing and just about any of them will work, I think some are better than others for the purpose of learning Unix. I'd recommend something "Pure" like one of the BSDs or something like Arch or Debian.

This^ Just all of it.

KthProg wrote:Also relative to Windows *nix systems are less developed.<br>by this i mean theres nothing you cant do in windows that you can do in *Nix but the opposite is not true.

This is a contender for the most ignorant thing I've ever read. There is a TON you can do on Linux that you can't on Windows. A TON.

There's a reason MOST web servers are run on Linux and NOT windows. There's also a reason most tech startups use Linux and not Windows.

Also, just to clarify, just about anything written for any version of your "*nix" will run on any other version. Perhaps only a few things to alter to get them to run perfectly. It could be argued it's harder to develop for the different versions of Windows.

Open up the Terminal program in Ubuntu to access the command line.

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