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Treeleaf 'Shukke Tokudo' Ordination Ceremony: May 23rd-24th

On the evening of Wednesday May 23rd in North America (the morning of Thursday May 24th in Europe and Japan), our Sangha will welcome new novice priests through the ritual of Shukke Tokudo (????) Ordination.

As is typical of our Sangha, the ceremony will be conducted simultaneously in three places around the world ... dropping all thought of here and there, now and then ... with the Preceptor (Jundo Cohen) in Japan, and our Ordainees, Shinkai in Austin, Texas and Dosho in New York. (We also will welcome one additional new novice priest, Myozan of Dublin, Ireland, who was recently Ordained by Rev. Taigu). This is a rescheduled ceremony from last month, but I am pleased that it will allow Dokan, who is visiting Japan for Shakuhachi and Zazen, to assist the ceremony as Jisha (??, the ceremony attendant) helping Jundo.

If you would like to witness the ceremony, and join in our celebration, the netcast will be seen at this link ...

Because of the new day and times for the ceremony, we know that it will be difficult for many Sangha members to join us that day. But FEAR NOT if not possible for you to join 'live' in your location at those times, as the entire event will be recorded and shared with everyone ... and you will be with us beyond all thought of here and there, now and then. Also, this time, we will not have witnesses visible on MeBeam as last time. Rather, Dokan will attend representing the warm hands and hearts of all of you.

Here's a little talk I offered last month, for the ceremony scheduled then ...

Re: Treeleaf 'Shukke Tokudo' Ordination Ceremony: May 23rd-24th

I will try to make the live version (if my 2-year old will let me ). If not, I will definitely watch the recorded version.

Gassho,
Ekai

One nice thing, among many, for our ceremony ... the kids can run around, sing and shout ... one can come and go for diaper changes and story time. No disturbance possible.

That applies even to one of our Ordainees, who will have his family in the room. No interference with the ceremony possible. Let em do their kid thing, and it is the Buddha singing shouting and getting a diaper change.

Re: Treeleaf 'Shukke Tokudo' Ordination Ceremony: May 23rd-24th

Hi everybody,
I will be with you all, but a few hours later, as the time GMT, what with child minding, makes it hard to be there live this time. Good luck to all. Enjoy it Jundo, Dosho, Shinkai and Dokaan! And enjoy the celebrations afterwards.
Gassho,
Myozan

Re: Treeleaf 'Shukke Tokudo' Ordination Ceremony: May 23rd-24th

I will try to make the live version (if my 2-year old will let me ). If not, I will definitely watch the recorded version.

Gassho,
Ekai

One nice thing, among many, for our ceremony ... the kids can run around, sing and shout ... one can come and go for diaper changes and story time. No disturbance possible.

That applies even to one of our Ordainees, who will have his family in the room. No interference with the ceremony possible. Let em do their kid thing, and it is the Buddha singing shouting and getting a diaper change.

Gassho, J

Ok, that's what's so great about this Sangha. I will be there with bells on and Hunter doing his kid thing.

Re: Treeleaf 'Shukke Tokudo' Ordination Ceremony: May 23rd-24th

How wonderful,

I'm sure it's going to be an amazing experience. As long as the "heart" is pure, even mistakes shine bright in the light of true dedication...so don't be afraid something might go wrong...it will And it will be wonderful.

Re: Treeleaf 'Shukke Tokudo' Ordination Ceremony: May 23rd-24th

I will try to make the live version (if my 2-year old will let me ). If not, I will definitely watch the recorded version.

Gassho,
Ekai

One nice thing, among many, for our ceremony ... the kids can run around, sing and shout ... one can come and go for diaper changes and story time. No disturbance possible.

That applies even to one of our Ordainees, who will have his family in the room. No interference with the ceremony possible. Let em do their kid thing, and it is the Buddha singing shouting and getting a diaper change.

Gassho, J

Hi all,

Ekai's post and Jundo's response have brought up an issue I've been rolling around in my head, so I figured why not share it? I am the ordainee in question that will have family in the room. At present, it'll be my wife and oldest son (also my assistant) who is about a month shy of his 7th birthday. As things stand now my nearly 3 year old son won't be there because of the late hour, which makes me very sad. When the ceremony had been in the morning we had planned for my wife to go get him from sleeping to be there for the end. But now that it is at night my wife thinks it best (and I largely concur) that we put him to bed at his usual time which is before the ceremony begins. I would like my whole family to be there, so I am very conflicted as to what I should do. Although not always the case, past experience has shown there to be a high probability for crying when he doesn't get his way because of the late hour, grabbing everything on the tables I have to use for the ceremony, want to see himself on camera, and make things very difficult for my wife who will have worked a full day, have thrown dinner together, and helped me get ready for the ceremony.

Re: Treeleaf 'Shukke Tokudo' Ordination Ceremony: May 23rd-24th

Hi Dosho,
I can understand where you're coming from - my heart would certainly want my little guys to be present for something like this. I would give your wife (and yourself) and break, however and put your little one down at his normal time. In all likelihood, he won't remember the ceremony as the years pass. You, on the other hand, will probably remember if he is an overtired wreck. Hope this helps.

Re: Treeleaf 'Shukke Tokudo' Ordination Ceremony: May 23rd-24th

Hope the ceremony goes well and will look forward to the recorded version.

Dosho - your little boy is the same age as my youngest grandson - and he does
get cranky when he's tired. Perhaps settle him at the usual time - but
have a little ceremony the next day that he can be involved in.

Treeleaf 'Shukke Tokudo' Ordination Ceremony: May 23rd-24th

As a parent and Treeleaf Sangha member, I just found Shujin and Willow's posts full of beauty and wisdom. I hope you found something helpful in them Dosho.

I have had kids and household pets join me for sitting, Jukai ceremonies, and Zazenkai. Invited, uninvited, silent, and singing! Once I had the dog and cat chase one another around during a Zazenkai..... :-)

Re: Treeleaf 'Shukke Tokudo' Ordination Ceremony: May 23rd-24th

Dosho,

I understand you want your entire family to be with you during the ceremony but I, too, agree with Willow. I would put your toddler to bed at the usual time and enjoy watching the recorded version with him the next day.

Re: Treeleaf 'Shukke Tokudo' Ordination Ceremony: May 23rd-24th

Re: Treeleaf 'Shukke Tokudo' Ordination Ceremony: May 23rd-24th

Originally Posted by Dosho

Hi all,

Ekai's post and Jundo's response have brought up an issue I've been rolling around in my head, so I figured why not share it? I am the ordainee in question that will have family in the room. At present, it'll be my wife and oldest son (also my assistant) who is about a month shy of his 7th birthday. As things stand now my nearly 3 year old son won't be there because of the late hour, which makes me very sad. When the ceremony had been in the morning we had planned for my wife to go get him from sleeping to be there for the end. But now that it is at night my wife thinks it best (and I largely concur) that we put him to bed at his usual time which is before the ceremony begins. I would like my whole family to be there, so I am very conflicted as to what I should do. Although not always the case, past experience has shown there to be a high probability for crying when he doesn't get his way because of the late hour, grabbing everything on the tables I have to use for the ceremony, want to see himself on camera, and make things very difficult for my wife who will have worked a full day, have thrown dinner together, and helped me get ready for the ceremony.

Does anyone have any advice? I could sure use some.

Gassho,
Dosho

Hi, Dosho. Only my advice, but let your 3 year old be a 3 year old and go to bed like he should and then let your 7 year old and your wife enjoy the ceremony like they should. Your 3 year old will not remember, but it will be a big memory for your 7 year old who is capable of knowing the significance and importance to you. Your wife should also be able to enjoy the experience and relax in sharing it with you and your 7 year old completely.
Gazebo, Grace.

Re: Treeleaf 'Shukke Tokudo' Ordination Ceremony: May 23rd-24th

I am so honoured to be a part of this sangha and to be able to attend this great event.

I also agree with the others, a 3 year old will get more out of watching it with the family at an hour that is more appropriate to his happiness level,
and if he's anything like my granddaughter, he'll want to watch it again and again! : )

Re: Treeleaf 'Shukke Tokudo' Ordination Ceremony: May 23rd-24th

Indeed congratulations to Shinkai and Dosho on their achievement and commitment! I'm sorry I can't be there to celebrate it with you, but you are both in my immediate thoughts with wishes for a trouble-free ceremony and a lifetime of learning and service.

Re: Treeleaf 'Shukke Tokudo' Ordination Ceremony: May 23rd-24th

Big congratulations Tsudo(sp?) Dosho and Taido Shinkai!!!
Thank you for a wonderful ceremony Rev. Jundo. Also, thanks to Dokan for helping out in Tsukuba(in spite of some serrious jetlag I would imagine!) and to all the ancestors(who we could feel right there with us!)
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Re: Treeleaf 'Shukke Tokudo' Ordination Ceremony: May 23rd-24th

Originally Posted by Hoyu

Big congratulations Tsudo(sp?) Dosho and Taido Shinkai!!!

I was wondering that too Hoyu! I looked up the chracter on my lineage papers and it says Shu, but I thought it sounded like Su during the ceremony...so I'm not sure if it's Shu or Su or maybe even Tsu. But I'm tsure Jundo will let us know for shure.