might still get track handlebars but the road ones do me fine and maybe a different/shorter stem, but "meh" for nowall in all a really good frame, rides really well and even more so compared to my previous builds with old hi ten road frames. the problem I had with all the road frames was that they always had really long top tubes compared to the seat tube, just weird geometry. Took me a while to get one that I really like and I really love this one.

thanks mate, yeah it was your visp that i saw whilst waiting for my frame to arrive that got me a little more excited about getting it. i really dont have any complaints aswell, really beautiful ride, but there are some people out there with finer tastes in frames and they might complain about the rough welds and other obscure details

EvilGenius wrote:I love the brakes.How do you take the VISP decal off?Are the frames very good quality so too the point where you recommend them?

Isaac

You can get em plain too, search ebay under track frame.Yes I had one and I'd reccomend them as a good bang for buck frame.Not the prettiest welds but strong and straight.Brakes are sold by velogear(google away)

EvilGenius wrote:Thanks but how much are you looking at spending for all the parts frame, fork etc.?

grab a calculator, write out a parts list and spend a few days googling around.Thats what everyone else has done I'm sure .It could be as cheap as $600 or as exxy as 2k , depends on how fancy/brand name your tastes are.The exercise of looking all this stuff up will be a valuable lesson in the many variables of bike building.What happened to the Pake frame you wanted?At your age you will outgrow a frame pretty quick anyway, so don't spend more than you need on one.you rally need to have a budget set at the start to keep you in check anyway.Got a parent who can help or is cycling savvy?

EvilGenius wrote:Hehe. The Pake frame idea got thrown out the window when I calculated the cost of the parts.I found it would be much cheaper to restore an old Road Bike, 80's say.

A decent specced 80's Cromo roadie (say 105 shimano) will be good for frame, headset/stem,bars , brakes ,seatpost cranks and pedals.You will need a set of SS?fixed wheels with cogs, a chain, some new tyres,and possibly a chainring and bolts.I'd expect ti to be well doable for $300 max.Europa gave you all the hints, just need to be patient and suus out what you want. That swap meet advertised in the Marketplace on here may be a good place to go and have a chat to people with experience.

I have been looking at getting a fixie/ss for a few weeks now to use when I dont want to pull out my carbon roadie or to just cruise along the foreshore (maybe 20km quick spin).

I do have an 20+ year old 27" univega racer I could use as my starting point to do up, (needs at least new rims/tires/cranks though) but I would prefer to just get out and ride asap rather than internet shop and ticker in the shed for a few months.

I noted a few people here are using the VISP frames as their base. [ebay]http://www.ebay.com/itm/track-fixed-gear-frame-set-700CX48-50-52-54-56-58CM-/280556998118?pt=AU_Sport_Cycling_Frames&hash=item4152800de6[/ebay]

So I went ahead and checked them out myself and found this..... [ebay]http://www.ebay.com/itm/VISP-TRX999-TRACK-BIKE-FIXIE-BIKE-FIXED-GEAR-BICYCLE-RED-/300615366419?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45fe127713[/ebay]

1. Has anyone bought the completed version? If so, what was your experience? How did you find the parts quality and reliability.2. Does anyone commute daily with a VISP? Do you find it a stiff frame? is it a hard ride? 3. Can you use 25cc or 28cc tires ?4. Is the frame sizing accurate to roadies or should I buy one frame size smaller?5. Is the completed kit a worthwhile deal for the price ($380+$135 del=$515 versus $175 frame + parts)? Can you easily fit one out for <$340 6. Otherwise can you link me to another site you recommend I consider say Reid/Jube/cyclingdeal/jellybean/metropolitan etc etc

I've heard that the off the shelf ones are 'ok'. Better than any of the local selections.

The alloy ride can be a little harsh, ie on 23's with 120psi and 36spoke wheels... 25's will go on easy and you can probably squeeze 28's in there, you may just need an extra link of chain to clear the seat tube.

BUT, the HASA 'fixie' from cycling deal is only 299, and probably the best of the sub 500 completes. I would recommend that.

and then if you want to spend 515, stretch a little more and get a Fuji track classic off www.gearbrisbane.com for 540. Wicked value for money.

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