Meetings. Are great for suits. Don’t have meetings. Walk in with pieces of paper, walk out with pieces of paper. Too many things
to discuss. Too many things to discuss you remember after you have left.

Break down barriers. Take people out Thursday evening, have a bear with developers and sysadmins, develop a social relationship, develop
connections, make it easier to relate in day to day work.

“They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but its not one half as bad as a lot of ignorance” – Terry Pratchett.

Online chat, IRC, etc. Everything is on the record. Everything is public. Log can be put online.

DevOps

A bit from camp A and a bit from camp B.

DevOps meetings.

Q&A

LTS. Sysadmins want long term stability. Developers want latest versions. Depends on when code be released. Sysadmins
need to be involved early on, have understanding of what is required, do stress testing early.