Clarett's Folly wrote:Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel just advocated in a press conference the expansion of the Baker Act in Florida which essentially allows the state to lock you up for an indeterminate amount of time if someone thinks you might be crazy. So... y'know... fuck your 5th Amendment rights but don't you dare touch my 2nd Amendment rights.

You should probably think through this topic. We're now at a point where the 1st and 2nd are the only thing that matters. It's almost as if you could get away with the rest and not a big deal. Irony is that these are the same people who say they support the constitution but I'll bet dollars to doughnuts they couldn't name anything past the 2nd.

On the other hand they support state sponsored killings by our criminal justice system but want to be called pro life. Go ahead and logically work your way through that one.

Everytown has long inflated its total by including incidents of gunfire that are not really school shootings. Take, for example, what it counts as the year’s first: On the afternoon of Jan. 3, a 31-year-old man who had parked outside a Michigan elementary school called police to say he was armed and suicidal. Several hours later, he killed himself. The school, however, had been closed for seven months. There were no teachers. There were no students.

_________________The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. – H. L. Mencken

Everytown has long inflated its total by including incidents of gunfire that are not really school shootings. Take, for example, what it counts as the year’s first: On the afternoon of Jan. 3, a 31-year-old man who had parked outside a Michigan elementary school called police to say he was armed and suicidal. Several hours later, he killed himself. The school, however, had been closed for seven months. There were no teachers. There were no students.

And for you that’s different from republicans doing absolutely zilch, zero, nada about abortion because......

They get a pass from you though for no apparent reason.

As for guns I’d argue that we had the wrong democrats at the time. The time will inevitably come when they have that chance again and we’ll see if they fuck us as hard as republicans fuck you. Hope they don’t. We’ll just have to see, and then if they do fuck us we’ll see if we come off as big of idiots chasing a carrot as you do

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Everytown has long inflated its total by including incidents of gunfire that are not really school shootings. Take, for example, what it counts as the year’s first: On the afternoon of Jan. 3, a 31-year-old man who had parked outside a Michigan elementary school called police to say he was armed and suicidal. Several hours later, he killed himself. The school, however, had been closed for seven months. There were no teachers. There were no students.

You're welcome to believe what you wish, but I'm not going to apologize for valuing life.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:a mother who has to arrange her 14 year old daughter's funeral begs the sexual predator to do something... and I don't think she's talking about thoughts and prayers or a round of golf.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:a mother who has to arrange her 14 year old daughter's funeral begs the sexual predator to do something... and I don't think she's talking about thoughts and prayers or a round of golf.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:in a shock to nobody, the thrice-married family values icon, advocate for personal responsibility and drug-addicted Rush Limbaugh blames Hillary Clinton for the school shooting:

Limbaugh: "Hillary Clinton and the Democrats have the FBI so occupied tracking down something that didn't happen, they may not have the resources to pull this kid off the street"

Boy they must be really feeling the pressure if they are pulling that out. I was turned into Breibart radio and man they know it's starting to be a losing battle. Someone blamed it on football being taken away from the youth. Lol, like it has nothing to do with the fact multiple hits to the head delay development at a young age ooo no, its the liberals fault. Another blamed it on boys not being able to fight in school. Fantastic.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:in a shock to nobody, the thrice-married family values icon, advocate for personal responsibility and drug-addicted Rush Limbaugh blames Hillary Clinton for the school shooting:

Boy they must be really feeling the pressure if they are pulling that out. I was turned into Breibart radio and man they know it's starting to be a losing battle. Someone blamed it on football being taken away from the youth. Lol, like it has nothing to do with the fact multiple hits to the head delay development at a young age ooo no, its the liberals fault. Another blamed it on boys not being able to fight in school. Fantastic.

I guess having a fetish with guns and a disregard for human life alters one's ability to participate in rational thought.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:in a shock to nobody, the thrice-married family values icon, advocate for personal responsibility and drug-addicted Rush Limbaugh blames Hillary Clinton for the school shooting:

Boy they must be really feeling the pressure if they are pulling that out. I was turned into Breibart radio and man they know it's starting to be a losing battle. Someone blamed it on football being taken away from the youth. Lol, like it has nothing to do with the fact multiple hits to the head delay development at a young age ooo no, its the liberals fault. Another blamed it on boys not being able to fight in school. Fantastic.

Boy they must be really feeling the pressure if they are pulling that out. I was turned into Breibart radio and man they know it's starting to be a losing battle. Someone blamed it on football being taken away from the youth. Lol, like it has nothing to do with the fact multiple hits to the head delay development at a young age ooo no, its the liberals fault. Another blamed it on boys not being able to fight in school. Fantastic.

I guess having a fetish with guns and a disregard for human life alters one's ability to participate in rational thought.

In fairness if this were a Mulism then the entire Middle East would be bombed out by the end of the month and travel ban would be back front and center. A prime example of limited government.

Boy they must be really feeling the pressure if they are pulling that out. I was turned into Breibart radio and man they know it's starting to be a losing battle. Someone blamed it on football being taken away from the youth. Lol, like it has nothing to do with the fact multiple hits to the head delay development at a young age ooo no, its the liberals fault. Another blamed it on boys not being able to fight in school. Fantastic.

Honestly if those calls are real, we’re fucked.

Yup, real calls. A 3rd one blamed it on transgender people. Because you know .0000001 percent of the population put a gun in that kids hands and told him to kill his peers.

I'm at the point where about half of the country has no interest in participating in society at all.

Boy they must be really feeling the pressure if they are pulling that out. I was turned into Breibart radio and man they know it's starting to be a losing battle. Someone blamed it on football being taken away from the youth. Lol, like it has nothing to do with the fact multiple hits to the head delay development at a young age ooo no, its the liberals fault. Another blamed it on boys not being able to fight in school. Fantastic.

Honestly if those calls are real, we’re fucked.

That type of logic is pretty pervasive on Breitbart. You think Goose is bad with the way he twists things? He's got nothing on those morans. They live on a different planet.

That type of logic is pretty pervasive on Breitbart. You think Goose is bad with the way he twists things? He's got nothing on those morans. They live on a different planet.

I suspect they're sort of the fringe types.. the ones who thought Obama was listening to them through their toaster ovens..

I could be wrong - I readily admit that with the election of the sexual predator, the intellectually-challenged, paranoid, angry, gullible American now has an advocate in the White House who takes advantage of their stupidity, racism and paranoia.

Dems are arguing that we should keep all illegal immigrants here and that's it's unfair to condemn them all because a few of them are criminals and murderers.

Dems are arguing that all gun owners and the NRA are murderers with blood on their hands because of a few crazies that commit mass murders.

Tribes - pick and choose your arguments.

I don't think illegal immigrants should stay here but I do believe kids that were brought here at a young age should have a pathway to citizenship. I think that's the general argument.

In regards to guns good luck with that uphill battle. You're unwilling to move anywhere is going to cost you. Breibart is feeling the heat and they know public is turning on them.

Of course they just make shit up with regard to democrats position on immigration. Their own is so overtly racist and disgusting that people like goose need to just make something up to try to drag others in the mud with them.

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Robert J Sakimano wrote:delicate combination between common sense gun control, breakdown in families, devaluing of human life, quality universal healthcare including treatment for mental health needs, an overall feeling of empathy, compassion and a shared sense of responsibility within society.

If this is real, why fixate solely on the gun part of the equation, when like you say it is only part? I think the majority of the population can go along with tightening gun control in some areas, but how does that impact the devaluation of life in general, the breakdown of the family, the way this kid was lost by the system when his mother died, apparently had no one to anchor his reality.Also, people tried to report him, but that part of the system failed completely, as well. This is not (for fear of being non PC) a black and white situation, the availability of the gun exacerbated the situation, but it didn't create it.These incidents have been going on longer than AR-15s have been on the market.Bath School Massacre

_________________Betteridge’s law: “Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no.”

Dems are arguing that we should keep all illegal immigrants here and that's it's unfair to condemn them all because a few of them are criminals and murderers.

Dems are arguing that all gun owners and the NRA are murderers with blood on their hands because of a few crazies that commit mass murders.

Tribes - pick and choose your arguments.

All Democrats are not calling all gun owners murderers but that doesn't fit into the FoxNews/Breitbart narrative.

Although we reportedly have enough guns in the US where everyone could have one, only one third of Americans own more than one. According to Pew 16% of Democrats own guns while 41% of Republicans own guns.

Interestingly after 11M guns were sold in the US in 2016 there were only 4M sold in 2017. Ironic that without having Hillary Clinton being used as a threat and a more gun friendly Trump winning The White House, fewer people are in a rush to get more guns.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:delicate combination between common sense gun control, breakdown in families, devaluing of human life, quality universal healthcare including treatment for mental health needs, an overall feeling of empathy, compassion and a shared sense of responsibility within society.

If this is real, why fixate solely on the gun part of the equation, when like you say it is only part? I think the majority of the population can go along with tightening gun control in some areas, but how does that impact the devaluation of life in general, the breakdown of the family, the way this kid was lost by the system when his mother died, apparently had no one to anchor his reality.Also, people tried to report him, but that part of the system failed completely, as well. This is not (for fear of being non PC) a black and white situation, the availability of the gun exacerbated the situation, but it didn't create it.These incidents have been going on longer than AR-15s have been on the market.Bath School Massacre

and yet we do nothing.

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Robert J Sakimano wrote:delicate combination between common sense gun control, breakdown in families, devaluing of human life, quality universal healthcare including treatment for mental health needs, an overall feeling of empathy, compassion and a shared sense of responsibility within society.

If this is real, why fixate solely on the gun part of the equation, when like you say it is only part? I think the majority of the population can go along with tightening gun control in some areas, but how does that impact the devaluation of life in general, the breakdown of the family, the way this kid was lost by the system when his mother died, apparently had no one to anchor his reality.Also, people tried to report him, but that part of the system failed completely, as well. This is not (for fear of being non PC) a black and white situation, the availability of the gun exacerbated the situation, but it didn't create it.These incidents have been going on longer than AR-15s have been on the market.Bath School Massacre

Agreed. The mental health community could help with additional support. Yet we got half the people that want to build an 18 billion dollar wall.

Reserach has shown you can increase funding in the mental health treatment areas at a fraction of the cost. It'll probably save more lives than the wall but then we'd probably be giving jobs to liberal elite social worker and school therapists. Tough call for the Republican party.