apparently, the "god of second chances" isn't quite the christian family values god that the well, other god, is as mark sanford, who we all know is the married christian family values ex south carolina governer who diseappred from that governor job and his wife and kids to cheat on his wife with some chick from argentina, in argentina, (likely using public funds in some way) who is now, of course, embraced by the christian family values republicans as he runs for congress, as what else but a rightwing republican.

or, just another day in rightwing family values fantasy land.

who wants to bet that if this guy wins and has more access to public funds, he'll make his way down to brazil in 2014 for the World Cup.

rostos, i think that's using your brain. in my professional, life, i have to judge people, statements, situations all of the time. i can't go through the day with my brain turned off and foxnews turned on or i might as well dig ditches for a living.

same goes for my personal life, especially with kids. you have to be thinking, assessing, judging to maximize your effectiveness as a productive and effective person in society. whoever says don't judge is either lying or is just completely checking out of intellectual and responsible society. don't let the bible put you in either group.

You can judge all you want bud, but just remember, wwho the f## are you?

That ok. Agnostic say "they don't know". Not one day they known and next week they don't know. If you are incorrect are you still willing to be "committed?" Btw you didn't reply why not be a deist? There is nothing higher than reason (do you agree?)

drake, that offer goes for you too. i'll be your spiritual guidance counselor through the month. you and rostos put away your religion for march and come to the Church of ClubDirt for all questions from who will cover in the world cup qualifiers to how to treat other people who might be different from you.

Me: I don't know how the universe actually began. What I do know is that there was a big bang that started it all and over the course of about 14 billion years, the universe as we see it today slowly developed leading to life on our planet, which evolved into everything we see today.

Rostos: I know how the universe actually began. Since it didn't pop into existence out of nothing, the only explanation possible is that a supreme being (that popped into existence out of nothing?) created a big bang that started it all and over the course of about 14 billion years, the universe as we see it today slowly developed leading to life on our planet, which evolved into everything we see today. (For some reason, this supreme being decided he wanted to create a universe in this exact manner at that exact moment and then leave it alone for 14 billion years...and counting)

Me: I don't know how the universe actually began. What I do know is that there was a bigbang that started it all and over the course of about 14 billionyears, the universe as we see it today slowly developed leading to life on our planet, which evolved into everything we see today.

Rostos: I know how the universe actually began. Since it didn't pop into existence out of nothing, the only explanation possible is that a supreme being (that popped into existence out of nothing?) created a big bang that started it all and over the course of about 14 billion years, the universe as we see it today slowly developed leading to life on our planet, which evolved into everything we see today. (For some reason, this supreme being decided he wanted to create a universe in this exact manner at that exact moment and then leave it alone for 14 billion years...and counting)

Tell me about this "big bang" and how it started it all.

I trust your understanding of how things were going down 14 billion years ago. You seem like you're capable of time travel.

Me: I don't know how the universe actually began. What I do know is that there was a big bang that started it all and over the course of about 14 billion years, the universe as we see it today slowly developed leading to life on our planet, which evolved into everything we see today.

Rostos: I know how the universe actually began. Since it didn't pop into existence out of nothing, the only explanation possible is that a supreme being (that popped into existence out of nothing?) created a big bang that started it all and over the course of about 14 billion years, the universe as we see it today slowly developed leading to life on our planet, which evolved into everything we see today. (For some reason, this supreme being decided he wanted to create a universe in this exact manner at that exact moment and then leave it alone for 14 billion years...and counting)

Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1][2] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[3][4][5] Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.[4][5][6][7] Atheism is contrasted with theism,[8][9] which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists.[9][10]

I do not believe in deities. Therefore, I am an atheist. ARGUMENT. OVER.

drake, that offer goes for you too. i'll be your spiritual guidance counselor through the month. you and rostos put away your religion for march and come to the Church of ClubDirt for all questions from who will cover in the world cup qualifiers to how to treat other people who might be different from you.

But if I'm right believing there is a God, having accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord Savior I go to heaven and live happily every after in everlasting eternal blissful paradise, whereas you go to the place of eternal punishment for your sins.

But if you are right there is no God, then we won't know anything about it because we are going to be just as dead as doorknobs having no conscious awareness that we are now in the state of non-existence.

Either way I'm better off believing there is indeed an Almighty God, Creator of the universe and everything that exists.

But if I'm right believing there is a God, having accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord Savior I go to heaven and live happily every after in everlasting eternal blissful paradise, whereas you go to the place of eternal punishment for your sins.

But if you are right there is no God, then we won't know anything about it because we are going to be just as dead as doorknobs having no conscious awareness that we are now in the state of non-existence.

Either way I'm better off believing there is indeed an Almighty God, Creator of the universe and everything that exists.

What if you believe in the wrong god? And the actual god is really pissed that you didn't believe in him?

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