Saw two for sale in downtown Jasper the other day. Both a 5th wheel and a full bed. Looked to be in good condition. Did not get a price. Seemed to have come from an outfit JTS but displayed by a local dealer.

Not a CDL, but you WILL need a new non-commercial driver's license. They have relettered the non-commericals now, probably to avoid confusion between the CDL and non-CDL versions of the same lettered license. I have a Class B non-commercial. When I renew it, it'll become a different letter.

Originally Posted By footrat:Not a CDL, but you WILL need a new non-commercial driver's license. They have relettered the non-commericals now, probably to avoid confusion between the CDL and non-CDL versions of the same lettered license. I have a Class B non-commercial. When I renew it, it'll become a different letter.

No, he doesn't need a new license. I drive a 20,000 lb 6 wheel vehicle with a class C on the roadway.

As far as I know you are good to go as long as it is not over 26,001 lbs even if it has air brakes. Your reason for having it is for "recreation" so you are good to go. It is just the same as owning a giant Prevost diesel motorcoach with air brakes.

If you're talkin' about a M54 , M817 or any other military 5 ton, you need a class B CDL, if an M35A2 or any other "Deuce and a half", you do not.
It ain't what the truck weighs, it's the GVWR and a 5-ton weighs all over 20K all by it's lonesome.

Originally Posted By newby:If you're talkin' about a M54 , M817 or any other military 5 ton, you need a class B CDL, if an M35A2 or any other "Deuce and a half", you do not.
It ain't what the truck weighs, it's the GVWR and a 5-ton weighs all over 20K all by it's lonesome.

As long as the gvwr is under 26,000 you dont need a cdl and even if he did he could get a non commercial class b (class b non com)
M54 19,460
M817 is a dump truck 23,761 (could not haul more than 2,000 or so in the bed w/o class b non com)
The m35 is 13,530 w/winch so what would be the difference between a m54 and an m35 nothing still legal to operate under a class c.

Originally Posted By newby:If you're talkin' about a M54 , M817 or any other military 5 ton, you need a class B CDL, if an M35A2 or any other "Deuce and a half", you do not.
It ain't what the truck weighs, it's the GVWR and a 5-ton weighs all over 20K all by it's lonesome.

As long as the gvwr is under 26,000 you dont need a cdl and even if he did he could get a non commercial class b (class b non com)
M54 19,460
M817 is a dump truck 23,761 (could not haul more than 2,000 or so in the bed w/o class b non com)
The m35 is 13,530 w/winch so what would be the difference between a m54 and an m35 nothing still legal to operate under a class c.

The data plate over the glove box on most 5-tons states that the vehicle GVWR is between 40K and 44K. DOT man will lock you up for a felony even if the truck weighs only 23K at the time of the offense. The 26K limit for whether or not you need a CDL is the GVWR of the vehicle, not what it happens to weigh empty. IF you decide to drive a 5-ton without a CDL, I recommend you store your guns and dog someplace other than the address on your DL ;)

To make it better for you just get a class B non commercial and be done with it. It is a written exam and is very easy.
Option B replate it and register it for 26,000 and be done. The truck weighs les that 26,000 but has a capability of hauling over 26,000