So the President's Campaign has a doctor implant a chip behind Biden's ear after telling him if he gets off message he will immediately be terminated._________________The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.
George Orwell

Actually, Bidden did pretty well last time. Then again, that was against Sarah Palin.

This time, I imagine the strategy would have to be, "don't lock horns with Ryan or engage defensively; just deliver a series of prepared statements that pretty much mirror the Obama attack ads, to at least give the impression you're not haplessly defending yourself like Obama. Trick Ryan into definding the most "extremist" of his past statements rather than the Romney/Ryan platform."

Also, they'll probably try to somehow force the moderator to come to their rescue even more than Lehrer did.

Plus, I expect the mainstream media to vigorously take part in furthering the Obama "reality" that Romney/Ryan facts are lies, while Obama/Bidden lies are facts. Watch for the real-time Truth-o-Meter I predicted.

What have you got against the truth? Oh wait, scratch that. Silly question.

You wouldn't know the truth if you got a truth enema. You're one of the most closed-minded and cognitively rigid people I've ever encountered.

Have you ever seen that Rain-X product people wipe on their windshields? (It makes water just bead up and run right off. If you're driving fast, you don't even need to use your windshield wipers; water just blows right off.) Well, it's like somebody dipped you in Fact-X every night for the past 10 years or something.

is Ryan known to be bright. i don't know anything about either, except a brief reading on the wiki pages. Ryan like Ayn Rand, or went through a Rand phase, so that's a strike against him. but hey, i went through a marx phase.

we'll see tomorrow.

oh, and I always love this from a freedom lover.

wiki wrote:

Ryan opposes same-sex marriage, supports a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage, opposed the repeal of the don't ask, don't tell policy, has opposed same-sex couples adopting children, and voted against the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act.[145][149][156] Ryan voted in favor of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act in 2007.[145] The Human Rights Campaign, a GLBT rights organization, has frequently given Ryan a 0/100 rating on its legislative scorecard.

You're missing the point, some people on the left will argue that Biden is a foreign policy giant and people on the right will argue that Ryan is a powerhouse on social and economic matters, while they both argue the other guy is questionable.

Ryan rejects Objectionism, but seems to like the general "vibe" of Rand's fictional works.

He doesn't reject Rand at all he just downplays it to avoid the wrath of the religious right against the arch-atheist and pseudo-intellectual Randy An. Ryan has been afflicted by a life-long devotion to objectionablism and isn't giving it up any time soon. This is what he said as recently as three years ago:

Quote:

"what’s unique about what’s happening today in government, in the world, in America, is that it’s as if we’re living in an Ayn Rand novel right now. I think Ayn Rand did the best job of anybody to build a moral case of capitalism"

Ryan rejects Objectionism, but seems to like the general "vibe" of Rand's fictional works.

He doesn't reject Rand at all he just downplays it to avoid the wrath of the religious right against the arch-atheist and pseudo-intellectual Randy An. Ryan has been afflicted by a life-long devotion to objectionablism and isn't giving it up any time soon. This is what he said as recently as three years ago:

Quote:

"what’s unique about what’s happening today in government, in the world, in America, is that it’s as if we’re living in an Ayn Rand novel right now. I think Ayn Rand did the best job of anybody to build a moral case of capitalism"

Thank you for proving that you neither understand Objectionailitiasimanialosm nor the stories of Rand. If you look at Ryan's voting record you will see that he is clearly not an objectivist. While reading the absolute scumbaggery of characters like Ellsworth Toohey & Wesley Mouch, and then seeing their type infect Washington... it is a rather good reason to get into politics.

And it's not just Ryan who is seeing a parallel between Rand's novels and modern government... Atlas Shrugged has seen huge sales since Obama came to power._________________People Of Love

More like Andre the giant vs Justin Bieber, which one's Andre and Which one's Bieber depends on which side you ask.

Are you serious? Do you know anyone, aside from Biden himself, who thinks that Biden's intelligent at all?

Precisely my point...

See how, for you, Biden's Justin Bieber? Now ask someone with views diametrically opossed to yours about Ryan and you'll see how they say he doesn't know anything.

Not even Democrats will say Biden is smarter or more knowledgeable than Ryan. They know Biden.

Biden himself doesn't even think Biden is smart. That's why he keeps himself looking good and tries so hard to be funny and likable. If you're good-looking, funny and likable, people generally forgive you for being pretty much a dumb-ass. Biden and everybody else know he's pretty much a dumb-ass.

Since they can't go there, they are instead focused on Ryan being evil (meaning he wants smaller government, lower taxes, and less free shit for freeloading Democrats).

Also Biden is no foreign policy giant. He was positioned as that last election because, compared to Obama, anybody was a foreign policy giant. In 2008 the story was, "Don't worry that Obama doesn't know jack about foreign policy; we're going to have Biden handle that." Now I ask you? Has Biden been "handling that"? Not.

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Ryan rejects Objectionism, but seems to like the general "vibe" of Rand's fictional works.

He doesn't reject Rand at all he just downplays it to avoid the wrath of the religious right against the arch-atheist and pseudo-intellectual Randy An. Ryan has been afflicted by a life-long devotion to objectionablism and isn't giving it up any time soon. This is what he said as recently as three years ago:

Quote:

"what’s unique about what’s happening today in government, in the world, in America, is that it’s as if we’re living in an Ayn Rand novel right now. I think Ayn Rand did the best job of anybody to build a moral case of capitalism"

Thank you for proving that you neither understand Objectionailitiasimanialosm nor the stories of Rand. If you look at Ryan's voting record you will see that he is clearly not an objectivist. While reading the absolute scumbaggery of characters like Ellsworth Toohey & Wesley Mouch, and then seeing their type infect Washington... it is a rather good reason to get into politics.

And it's not just Ryan who is seeing a parallel between Rand's novels and modern government... Atlas Shrugged has seen huge sales since Obama came to power.

Isn't there a remake of the movie about to come out, like any day now or something?

Isn't there a remake of the movie about to come out, like any day now or something?

yeah. They did the first 1/2 as Atlas Shrugged part 1 and part 2 is coming out this weekend iirc. The problem is 1 was a bad movie. I can't place all of the blame on the film makers though. Ayn Rand's fiction is not the most eloquent writing. While her protagonist's arguments are brilliant, the rest of the novels sections are pretty badly written. It is worth reading The Fountainhead & Atlas Shrugged... but not because the writing is so elegant._________________People Of Love

Isn't there a remake of the movie about to come out, like any day now or something?

yeah. They did the first 1/2 as Atlas Shrugged part 1 and part 2 is coming out this weekend iirc. The problem is 1 was a bad movie. I can't place all of the blame on the film makers though. Ayn Rand's fiction is not the most eloquent writing. While her protagonist's arguments are brilliant, the rest of the novels sections are pretty badly written. It is worth reading The Fountainhead & Atlas Shrugged... but not because the writing is so elegant.

Wait, I said "remake", but I was thinking of the movie of The Fountainhead.

Her stuff requires in-depth explanation, which doesn't lend itself well to movies. A documentary of the rationale would probably be more effective.