I know that guns don't kill people. But an insane man who gets his hand on a gun does more damage than an insane man who gets his hand on a video game or a chocolate bar. I doubt you need automatic guns to defend yourself.

An insane man with a car will do more damage with the car than the gun, especially if he's in a metropolitan area. What would happen if you plowed though a crosswalk at say, 8 AM in New York City? There's a pretty good chance that you'd kill a similar number of people, or more if you're using a large vehicle like an F-250 or similar. It's not the gun's fault, nor is it the availability of them. He obtained his weapons illegally. It's purely the fault of an inadequate system. Even then, none of the weapons he used were automatic. Automatic weapons are incredibly expensive for the average person and there's a pretty hefty amount of red tape you have to go through to obtain one legally.

That seems implausible. Even $.10 books aren't going to give you much in the way of BTU/dollar, you'd be better off chopping some wood.

I guess this could happen.

Books are pretty much wooden blocks about half their size. I'm talking about pretty big books here. As for chopping wood, you need wood in order to chop it. Some places have cheap firewood, others are pretty expensive.

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Come on... Can you really compare this.to old school book burnings? You want to burn guns but not things that promote.said violence. Its not educational stuff they are burning like they used to. Kind of hypocritical to say this stuff has absolutely no effect on society but but guns are the most vile things ever. You sound like idiots. Some mentally ill are sussecptable to this.stuff but there are no studies. Its no studies have been done because you liberals would lose your most beloved right to idiotic speach.

Violent video games books and movies? okay, allow me to throw in:
the bible, caused many deaths throughout history.
twilight, the violence insued by raving females have caused many men to blow their own brains out.
And E.T, causing many dollars to be wasted to a travesty of a video game.
i coulda been more clever, sorry not feeling great today

Way to be ambiguous. If you're advocating tighter restriction on their availability, all of it goes right out the window if someone kills you and takes your gun. Are you suggesting gun owners walk around in a full suit of armor to protect themselves against would-be robbers so they don't have their guns taken from them after they've been killed? Or are you suggesting that guns be only available to the police and military, as if they're somehow immune from wrong-doing?

This dude stole a TANK from a National Guard armory. Do you think one or two rifles would be more difficult? Even then, how would you suggest dealing with all of the weapons already out there? Ask people to turn them in? Demand it? Would you be able to find enough people, who'd essentially be lining themselves up like cattle for the slaughterhouse, to try to enforce those demands? Most common hunting calibers can penetrate body armor. Plus, what would happen if a large number of the military defected? 43% of the total recruits for the US military came from the South in 2007. Something to chew on.

An insane man with a car will do more damage with the car than the gun, especially if he's in a metropolitan area. What would happen if you plowed though a crosswalk at say, 8 AM in New York City? There's a pretty good chance that you'd kill a similar number of people, or more if you're using a large vehicle like an F-250 or similar. It's not the gun's fault, nor is it the availability of them. He obtained his weapons illegally. It's purely the fault of an inadequate system. Even then, none of the weapons he used were automatic. Automatic weapons are incredibly expensive for the average person and there's a pretty hefty amount of red tape you have to go through to obtain one legally.

You compare cars to guns. Can you even make the difference between the purpose of these two objects? You can't even stop a guy crashing in a crowd, so how do guns come into this?

Sure someone could hit people with a car. You think that's not enough and we need even more cases? Hell, by that logic we can give tanks to people as well. Give them rocket launchers, there is no difference since you can kill as much people with a car.

Raintola that's how I feel on the matter I'm not going to discuss Gun Control since there's another thread for that. Sheez...

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An insane man with a car will do more damage with the car than the gun, especially if he's in a metropolitan area. What would happen if you plowed though a crosswalk at say, 8 AM in New York City? There's a pretty good chance that you'd kill a similar number of people, or more if you're using a large vehicle like an F-250 or similar. It's not the gun's fault, nor is it the availability of them. He obtained his weapons illegally. It's purely the fault of an inadequate system. Even then, none of the weapons he used were automatic. Automatic weapons are incredibly expensive for the average person and there's a pretty hefty amount of red tape you have to go through to obtain one legally.

Considering traffic in real life cities, someone crazy with a car will not even get through one block, forget rushhour, even regular time traffic will keep him blocked. I am not sure what you are saying about automatic weapon is truth, as assult rifles saw rise in sale just after the shooting incident. The sale would have taken months if they are expensive or hard to get. Gun shows don't have the red tape. Not all state have the same red tape. Right now, our gun laws are patchwork, some are strong depending on state, others are lack. Not all state even require background check. the background checks themselves are not done at both federal and state level in all states (its either one or the other). Basicly, we do not have uniform gun laws and background checks rules. Guns are weapons of mass destruction, which is why they get so much blame than knife, club etc. There is more chance of you killing multiple people before being stopped than with a knife or club (other people can tackle you, while you are trying to kill one person with a knife), guns do not have this luxuary. Can anyone deny that?

You compare cars to guns. Can you even make the difference between the purpose of these two objects?

Sure someone could hit people with a car. You think that's not enough and we need even more cases? Hell, by that logic we can give tanks to people as well. Give them rocket launchers, there is no difference since you can kill as much people with a car.

Sure they have a right to be angry, but its the same crap as when they had book burnings. There misinformed, and the reality is its because of crap parenthood and there inability to raise there children right that it lead to this.

It is funny you bring up misinformed when you seem to be misinformed about their intent and goal. They aren't red necks. They aren't blaming violent video games, music, or movies. They offering people that want to get rid of those things already an incentive and way to do it. Breaking the discs and later incinerating them. They aren't burning them to make a point. They are burning them to dispose of the now useless pieces they have. Incineration is likely just the standard disposal method for things of that nature.

You could have learned all of this by following the article linked but instead just ranted and raved about misinformed protestors.

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Video games have offered me hours of quality entertainment, some of them even have some good storytelling and some of them raise interesting philosophical questions (the dangers of technology, AI, transhumanism, etc, etc)

Would a gun offer me as much use?

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