In the light of the comic genius of people like Jack Benny, the Marx Brothers, and Mel Brooks, it’s sometimes said that Jewish people have an especially keen sense of humor. Perhaps that would explain why so many of them voted for Barack Obama. They must’ve been anticipating the knee-slapping hilarity of Obama pulling the rug out from under them to send them falling butt first onto the hard floor of his broken promises where they’d slip on the banana peel of his deceit and go skittering into the mud pit of his betrayal.

What a chuckle it’s been indeed. Right after winning well over 60% of the Jewish vote in November, Obama delivered his gut-busting punchline by nominating former Senator Chuck Hagel to serve as secretary of Defense. And as if that weren’t funny enough, Hagel is now before the Senate, where he’ll almost certainly be confirmed.

Now the good news for Jews is that Hagel rhymes with bagel, a tasty breadstuff much beloved by our Hebraic citizens. The bad news is just about everything else. Supporters of the former senator have been reassuring various media outlets that Hagel doesn’t dislike Jewish people. And I’m sure that’s mighty Christian of him. The problem is he’s not being asked to dance at a bar-mitzvah. He’s being called to support our allies and stand up to our enemies and when it comes to the Middle East he doesn’t seem quite sure about which are which.

Hagel has complained about the “Jewish lobby,” he’s criticized Israel’s commitment to peace even as her citizens were being slaughtered by terrorists, he’s opposed sanctions against Syria and Iran while describing Israel’s war against terrorist Hezbollah as “the systematic destruction of an American friend,” meaning Lebanon. He also refused to sign a 1999 letter condemning Russian anti-semitism, a letter that was signed by 99 other senators, which by my count is all of them except Chuck.

Can’t stop laughing? How about this one. Hagel’s supporters say Hagel’s anti-semitic comments and actions and feelings have been taken out of context. And that, coincidentally, is just what Egyptian dictator Mohammed Morsi says about his comments. Morsi, you remember, is the guy to whom Obama just sent a couple of F-16′s. Which must be another of the president’s hilarious Jewish jokes, since Morsi’s also the dude who described Jews as the descendants of apes and pigs. But like Hagel, Morsi says he was misunderstood. After all, who doesn’t love that funny pig in Babe, right? And what about King Kong where that gigantic Jew chased Naomi Watts around. That was fun.

Okay, Obama’s nomination of Hagel — like his weapons aid to Morsi — may not be in the best traditions of Jewish humor, but this administration is certainly a joke to anyone who supports our only true ally in the Middle East.

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Look what happened to Richard Nixon. He serve the liberals and open the doors to Atheist Communist Red China and they still throw him in botomless pit. Look what happen to George Bush he must hide in a deep fox hole. You think Mitt Romney could have done anything except talk?
This trinity ,Obama , Kerry and Hagel have the power to nuke Iran figure of speech .or nuke Iran because there is no other way o and get anti-Semites on their side

Hi Andrew, for once I will disagree with you about Hegel. Set aside the nonsense about anti-Semitism. What are Hagel’s views? First, Hagel believes in direct communication with our enemies, Hezbollah, Hamas, Iran or Cuba.
Second, he believes war is a last resort to be undertaken only after all diplomacy has failed, and war should not be undertaken unless vital interests of this country are imperiled.
Third, he believes a Pentagon budget as large as all the defense budgets of the other 190 nations combined is bloated and that the deficit and debt are the greatest strategic threats to the United States.
He would get my vote for Secretary of Defense.

Maybe you should read Michael Ledeen, on this site. We HAVE been talking with Iran all along. It’s just not official.

Anyway, as a Jew, who honors George Washington for his uncompromising fight agaisnt anti-semitism, I find Hegel’s remarks downright chilling.

Note: Vital interests of the country would not include being attacked on our own soil (Afganistan) or our planes being shot at (Iraq)? Regarding Iran, that is a straw man. The isolationists keep on talking as if we are talking about a nuclear strike (huh?) or anything more than a few strikes, not a full war.

Iran may have a great ambition of ruling over the MiddleEast and tiny tiny Israel stand in their way . This is why it is important to use nuke to get at Iran’s place underground they have create a their “TRuman” bomb that make Israeli people flee the Middle East
Let’s keep the Spirit of Truman in USA : NUke em if they will not repent

But, Alex, what is there to say to a bunch of Seventh-century fanatics who insist that their God wills the destruction or conversion of all infidels–except Jews, who are only to be terminated–down to the last ape and pig, as it were–and their modern nation be replaced with a primitive hell-hole, as in Gaza?

In talking *publicly* to our enemies, we talk to our own public, for that matter we talk to ourselves and discover what we really can think and say about an issue. I think we need rather more of this than less. I think we would benefit from some publicly telling Achmadinejad and company exactly what we think of them. I don’t know if Obamba, Hagel, Rice, or Hildabeast are up to the task (actually I do know and they’re not), but in *principle*, I’m all for it.

True, jaw jaw is better than war war .
But the mistake you make is that jaw jaw can prevent conflict whereas history has shown that is simply not true.

Prior to WWI and II the future belligerents where chatting it up big time.
Jaw Jaw works when nations – more or less – have the same goals. When nations have diametrically opposite goals (e.g., Iran/Arabs desire that all Israelis are exterminated and Israel finds this unacceptable) jawing does not work.

In this latter instance, what DOES work is the belief or perception (not necessarily an accurate one) that a specific action will result in an immediate disaster for the initial aggressor. If the initial aggressor believes that no serious repercussions will be forthcoming, then this aggressor will proceed to attack (e.g, Hitler was convinced that his attack on Poland would result in INACTION on behalf of the UK and France).

Wars start when one side is convinced (erroneously) that its opponents will NOT respond in the manner presumed by the initial aggressor. Pearl Harbor is a good example of this; the Japanese ASSUMED the attack would convince the USA NOT to interfere with Japanese aggression in the Pacific. Well, they guessed wrong.

As for Iran, etc., IMHO they will not attempt to destroy Israel until the believe (rightly or wrongly) they will succeed. Only then will Iran launch on Israel.
Engaging Iran is a waste of time. They have made it very clear what they desire and frankly, they have been far more direct about their goals compared to how Hitler stated his goals (in diplomatic double-speak and in outright lies; but hey, it fooled Neville Chamberlain and the MAJORITY of the intellectuals in the UK who believed that the worst threat to world peace was a madman named Winston Churchill).

That being said, the USA should fully develop all our oil and gas resources – offshore and onshore – and get the hell out of the mideast. Supply Israel with what they need and tell them, “take care of yourself – do what you must; you are fully capable of defending yourself.”
Oh yea, we should arm ourselves to the teeth, and if attacked we should totally and completely ANNIHILATE the aggressor. Other than that, we need to mind our own damn business.

We have all kinds of contacts with Iran, except they are unofficial. There is no misunderstanding between us that can be resolved by negotiations. Their policy towards the US is “Death to America!” Our policy is “We will live long and prosper.” If either of us changes our minds we will let the other know. We know their address and they know ours. Until one of us changes policy the prospects for negotiations are not promising.

What does being realistic mean? Doesn’t it involve an accurate assessment of reality as it is outside your head and wishes? Doesn’t it involve trying to judge, based on that assessment, whether appeasement will really lead to peace or just make your enemies stronger and better capable of attcking you?

Talking to the Nazis was all fine and well, but giving them Czechoslovakia to appease them was a mistake, even disregarding the moral aspect of it. After conquering Czechoslovakia the Nazis added the Czech weapons to their arsenal, which made them stronger and made it easier for them to conquer Poland. After conquering Poland they got the Polish weapons and work force that made them stronger yet. Every concession to the Nazis and every Nazi success made them stronger and more difficult to defeat. The combined forces of the USSR and Britain might not have been enough to stop them if the US hadn’t intervened. The US might have (quite likely) not intervened if it hadn’t been attacked by Japan. It was mistakes by the axis that led to the defeat of the axis, mistakes they were not guaranteed to make. If instead the Nazis first conquered all of Europe without attacking Russia, utilized their weapons and slave labor to fortify their military, and only then Japan would have attacked the US and was aided by Nazi Germany, do you think you could defeat them all by yourselves? And even with the axis’ mistakes the war took the lives of tens of millions of people, whereas if addressed early on the Nazis could have been stopped at a much lower cost in lives and destruction to everyone involved, including Germans.

The lesson is that indeed diplomacy and compromise are better than war, but that you also have to realistically asses the true nature and intentions of your enemy because if their aggression doesn’t stem merely from a relatively small greivance that can be addressed, if they have other, more far reaching ambitions, then every concession you make to them will only make them stronger and far more difficult to defeat when finally war could not be avoided anymore. That is the meaning of being realistic and not just pursuing appeasement no matter what until it’s too late.

The problem with the left today is that you refuse to see the true nature and intentions of the likes of Iran, the Muslim Brotherhood, its offshoot Hamas, Hizballah, and to some extent even al-Qaida, even though in their own languages they state their goals openly for all the world to hear and see. You simply shut your eyes and ears and scream: “No, no! This isn’t happening!”. And you think this way you’re preventing war. You can talk with Iran and you have indeed informally been talking with Iran for decades, but you should also set a final deadline and a final test by which you can know if diplomacy is succeeding or failing. But you won’t do that. You will continue to claim diplomacy was never tried before and/or wasn’t fully exhausted until Iran gets the bomb. And then you will say it’s alright because the Iranian regime is rational, you can contain it and so on. Arm Egypt because you need to stay in good terms with them, arm the rebels in Libya and Syria for the sake of “democracy”, let Iran get nukes for the sake of “peace”, let the French take care of the Islamist takeover in North Africa almost by themselves. But the Islamists will only get stronger, and it’s far more than limited grievances that drives them. They tell you that, but you won’t listen.

The meme “a Pentagon budget as large as all the defense budgets of the other 190 nations combined” seems very much like a Fox Butterfield type argument. (How can crime rates be falling when prison populations are expanding?) Why to other countries spend so little on defense when America is willing to spend so much?

Sure there’s bloat, wasteful spending, log-rolling, etc. It’s D.C., politicians and bureaucratic will to money. In fact, the Pentagon could probably be reduced to a square without much loss of efficiency.

However, simply walking away from commitments we’ve taken on ourselves would leave instability and violent chaos in its path, as we have seen occurring during Obama’s first administration.

I have not been able to discern any tangible benefit from speaking directly with our enemies. It seems a waste of time.

Alex even though the military budget can be cut the real bloat in our gov’t is the bureaucracy and entitlements. Too many departments set up by Democrat Presidents and overlapping agencies. Our federal gov’t is too big and over stepping the Constitution without going through admendments to change the Constitution because Democrats are afraid that the public would deny them the votes to get the admendents. The New Deal and War on poverty expanded our Federal Goverment too much. Our federal government needs to be streamlined and reduce the bloating by major reductions as people leave their positions.

Listening to this confirmation hearing, I think that little pig in “Babe” is more articulate, maybe smarter, than Hagel.

fwiw (and I certainly appreciated it), Naomi Watts and husband Liv Schrieber donated to the underground playground/shelter in S’Derot, Israel so the children have somewhere to play when Hamas launches rockets.

Hagel may rhyme with bagel, but some of us want to see him eat a platter of kishkes

They must’ve been anticipating the knee-slapping hilarity of Obama pulling the rug out from under them to send them falling butt first onto the hard floor of his broken promises where they’d slip on the banana peel of his deceit and go skittering into the mud pit of his betrayal.

This sentence deserves some type of award.

I’m easily baffled which is why I can’t understand how the adherents to Islam are going to stop wanting to kill us. It is in their foundational literature. I don’t see them changing that bit because of some chit chat.

I was at the world trade center in 1993 when things went boom. They’ve said they want to kill us and I for one take them at their word.

American Jews are cowardly, lazy and self-indulgent. And the proof of it is evident not only their perverse and self-destructive voting patterns. If Jews were half so prominent in the American armed forces as they are in the civilian professions, a Hagel nomination would be an impossibility.

Alas, military service is beneath American Jews. Self defense is for their crude and rude Israeli cousins whose vulgar and unseemly preoccupation with protecting themselves so discomfits and embarrasses American Jews. Can’t those Israeli Jews find a stupid Goy like Hagel to deal with defense?

I’m Jewish and although admittedly cowardly, lazy and self-indulgent I did serve in the Army. Furthermore my son is a Sgt. in the Air Force and daughter a Lt JG in the Coast Guard. Another son was in the USMC reserves. We are not unusual with regard to military service.

Perhaps that is so, BUT, there are more Mexicans in the Marine Corp (a very small force) than Jews in ALL of the Armed Services. This is not written to put down the efforts of the Jew in the military. But it is written to put better perspective on your statement. I am grateful to you and your children for their service to our country.

Are you sure Jews are under-represented in the American military? It was assumed about various armies, including the American army in the past, but when looking at the actual numbers it turned out Jews were not under-represented. It was just the image of Jews (at least prior to Israel) as being more of scholars, merchants and prophets than war heroes.

Anyway, Jews in the military wouldn’t be of anymore help than Jews in the media, academia and politics because they’d still be majority leftists. They’d still vote for Obama and accept, even cheer, his nominations. They’d still be embarassed at their hated “cousins” in Israel for not peacefully offering our throaths to be slit at the hands of the peaceful, tolerant and oh so oppressed Muslims. I guess we should take a lesson from the Mid East Christians who just take it without resistance, begging an indifferent West to save them to no avail. That would make our “cousins” in American proud. It’s more important to them to preserve the status of the eternal victim than for any Jew outside themselves to survive. And who can blame them in a culture where victimhood is exalted and success vilified? If they are successful the very least they can do to compensate for it is offer some human sacrifice.

The American pro-Israel lobby is typically referred to as the “Jewish lobby” in Israel… But no matter. We all seem to love Jews in Israel, not so much much in the US where they vote for Dems (thank you Mr. “Levavi”). Let’s stop pretending this is about Jews – the Right has no truck with American Jews – it is about Israel, the Promised Land where Jesus will return (so long as we can keep it from being overrun by Muslims).

I think you do many Christians a disservice in equating any support for Israel as merely a step in the path to eradicating your faith. Many like me believe in, and pray for, the existence of the Israeli state and the unique historical relationship between God and the Jewish people, and recognize that a world which will not abide Israel is damned.

That’s what amazes me about the bicoastal American Jews. They insist that Israel should make peace with the people who want to kill them, and yet they are quick to ascribe every bad motive to American Christians. The way the Jewish demographic voted was probably the single most disappointing thing about the 2012 elections. If American Jews were willing to stand with American Christians in their voting patterns, an Obama-type candidate would never be able to win national office, and we’d never have to worry about people like Chuck Hagel.

Well if anyone is shocked that O’Dismal would nominate a Chuck Hagel, then they must either part of the low information voters (the stupid or gullible) or kidding themselves. O’Dismal sucks up to the Islamists and kicks Israel in the teeth, along with the rest of our allies. The most dangerous position to be in is to be an ally of the U.S. Because of O’Dismal’s teeth kicking, you’ll always be wondering, am I next under the bus?

Having strongly mixed feelings about Hagel as he’s a combat wounded VietNam Veteran which gives him enormous, unshakeable credibility when it comes time to advocate sending more our young Americans to face similar risks….Mali emerging from the South as well as that nasty continuing cauldron of West and Central Asia.

Apparently Hagel may be in favor of Containment, although he was handed a hasty note during the hearing and modified his stance on Containment saying saying that “we” meaning the current “administration” have no stance on Containment.

What’s the argument against Containment of our Muslim enemy inside that landmass which they occupy in strength? I’d really like to know.

Our Containment of the Soviet Empire, a much greater land mass if we exclude Indonesia, than our Muslim enemy now occupies, eventually led to the Soviet system collapsing from within without our massed ground forces engaged in combat on Soviet soil, as we’re now frustratingly engaged on Muslim soil, and have been for a decade…a decade.

We’re on our way now to severing our dependence on Arab oil. Their new air-conditioned highrises and Mercedes cars will deteriorate…they don’t know how to maintain them against all that sandy grit. Let the Muslims sweat and go back to eventual camel herding as they’ve done for endless centuries.

Let these Muslim butchers eat each other with their internal centuries old religious, ethnic, and tribal hatreds. We Americans can be doing the “coat holding”…..for a welcome change.

Response to Charlie Griffith’s request for the Argument against containment: It worked with the USSR and would work with any similarly “rational” country. What is a “rational” country? A country which is more or less motivated by what we would call “Western” or “rational” points of view. This as distinguished from the modern-day rulers of Iran who would be decidedly not rational.

Why are the modern day rulers of Iran not rational? Because they have proclaimed again and again and again (and after 200 times, one has to begin to believe what they say) that they want to “hasten the arrival of the 12th Mahdi.” In order to do this, it is written in their Shiite texts that they must first bring about world-wide calamity — it goes even further to say that most of the world must be killed (well, a;; Jews for sure, and all non-Shiite Muslims for good measure — seriously).

You can read all about this at many sites — don’t take my word for it. Reza Kahlili has a great section on it in his book, “A Time to Betray.” I won’t elaborate. But the gist is that the current rulers of Iran (Ahmadinejad, Khamenei, many others, “the Twelvers” – no, not the 12-steppers, alas) are very much “dead set” on bringing this about. this is not just “talk” for them. They are very very serious. There is a huge amount of evidence that shows this.

So we now get to “containment.” Containment means (in essence) “MAD” or Mutually Assured Destruction — basically, “we will destroy you if you used your bomb” or I will shoot you if you shoot me. Hence you are “contained.”

Problem here is that the leaders of Iran believe they are bringing about the afterlife by bringing about the resurrection of the Mahdi. Thus they are wholly unconcerned with any threatened death or destruction.

Thus containment would not work since they are more than willing to die for their cause (unlike the Russians who preferred to live with their cause — a decidedly “rational” approach).

Thanks, Frumious Falafel, that’s what we needed to have presented in a terse manner, and what we’ve not yet heard. It boils down to the word “rational”, or, I’d add “pragmatic”, which was as good a word as any to describe Stalin and Krushchev who were totally anti-religious, and understood our capacity for force.

With our Muslim enemy, we are faced with the antithesis to all of that, being faced with a trans-national, unthinking religious zealotry which without any trace of our Western logic. These Muslims have blinded themselves with a narrow text-based zealotry which literally transcends all else. The Communists were earthbound, totally materialist, the Muslims are Koran bound.
[cf: Robert Spencer's "Jihad Watch"]

So mere geography hasn’t the same meaning with Islam as it had in our past with Communism. This is the essence of the danger presented to us by Islam.

“Thus they are wholly unconcerned with any threatened death or destruction.”…..your sentence.

The policy of containment needs to be applied to all of The Muslim World, not just Iran. Islam needs to be contained. And non-Muslims offered refuge from the predations of the adherents of that ideology.

Charlie – Hagel may have been a “combat wounded VietNam Veteran” 40 years ago, but during the Iraq war, while our troops were being slaughtered by weapons supplied by the IRGC, the main terrorist arm of the government of Iran, Hagel opposed sanctions or any other action against them. This was the same IRGC (or its antecedents) responsible for the bombings of the USMC barracks in Beirut and the USAF barracks at Khoabar Towers.

After leaving the Senate Hagel took a (no doubt lucrative) board position with Deutsche Bank, a company notorious for its reported involvement in violating anti-Iran sanctions.

There’s an expression in the military for those who take care of themselves while screwing their comrades: “blue flamer”, AKA, “buddy f*cker” (please pardon my language). So the Hagel of 1968 may have given honorable service in the U.S. Army but the Hagel of 2008 let U.S. Army soldiers (and other U.S. servicemen) go hang and then apparently went on to enrich himself with blood money from their murders.

As Hagel knows what it’s like to be an American solider targeted by insurgents on the battlefield, his conduct is perhaps even more despicable than that of BHO.

The Jews’ worst enemy is always and everywhere their fellow Jews. No matter how vicious, how demonic the adversary, the most destructive aspect is always some Jewish traitor joining with the enemy. Ever since they left Egypt, their problems can chiefly be traced to traitors in their own ranks, without whom the external enemies would not have been capable of causing significant harm to the Jews.

With respect, I think that the “external enemy” known as Hitler and the Nazis as well as the millions of Europeans who didn’t raise much of a finger — I think they all did mighty well at causing significant harm to the Jews without there being one or more significant “enabling” Jewish “traitors.”

If I didn’t know better (and I’m not sure that I do, I only know that you’re a regular here), I’d say you’re more or less blaming the Jews for all the anti-Semitism in the world. I’d love it if you told me I was mistaken.

I’m not blaming the Jews for anti-Semitism, but rather I merely state that the anti-Semites would be powerless to harm the Jews but for subversive apostates undermining the Jews at every turn. Without those subversives, the Jews would destroy their enemies, rather than being slaughtered by them.

I think Obama’s world view cuts it up into two parts: white-non-white, colonial-colonial victims, success-bad, failure-moral, oppressed-oppressor.

If you were unfortunate enough to be born on the wrong side of that paradigm, you’re in Obama-trouble. The good news is that failure isn’t all liberals crack it up to be. Although it is nice to be trendy, it doesn’t pay the rent or invent spaceships.

However it is good as a can opener to destroy Western civilization. Just add water, the Third World, blame, excuses and self-pity. Then stir up the pot and there will be plenty of resentment to go around.

Since the brutally stupid world view of Hizbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas and Wahhabi bright-eyes are a perfect match for Obama’s “hope and change,” expect fireworks on the horizon. Or nearer if you live in Ashdod.

Leftist Jews have done everything in their power to defame and destroy America … Hagel and Obama are a just reward for their treachery, for their support for Obama, and the relentless Leftist Jewish support for communism and anti-Christian anti-Americansism. . Sorry to tell the truth.

Respectfully disagree, as the Three Stooges were very, very competent in what they did for a living – slapstick. OTOH, other than willful destruction of the United States, what are Hagel, Kerry & Brennan competent at?

60% of the Jewish vote went for Obama even after he’d given them four years of what he really felt about them and their nominal homeland. How many votes does that translate to? Enough that without them he would have lost? Enough that had they voted for Romney, Obama would not have been re-elected?

The writing was on the wall. They chose to ignore it. Well, the Jewish people may have millenia on which to base their faith that no matter how stupid, obtuse, willfully blind, or hubristic they are, God will always come to the rescue of His Chosen People.

I’m not so sanguine. The American Jewish voter delivered up Israel to her enemies because they refused to face the reality of the evil personified in a person whose only regard for their Law, or any law, is how to trample it in favor of his own perception of himself as deity. God will not be mocked. I pray for Israel.

Dan, I’m confused. Are you saying that the Israelis are terrorists? Or that if they go down, they’re willing to go down fighting.
Is self defense actually terrorism? Don’t we have well over sixty years of PROOF that the Muslims want to exterminate the Jews. What should they do? Peacefully get in the line for the gas chambers?

“In the light of the comic genius of people like Jack Benny, the Marx Brothers, and Mel Brooks, it’s sometimes said that Jewish people have an especially keen sense of humor.”

All of those you listed, even Groucho Marx, even all combined, could hold a candle to Mark Twain.

A man can be a Jew or he can be an Obama supporter, but he can’t legally be a Jew and be an Obama supporter … except in the usual way: one of the two with the mouth, the other with the heart. The spirit of Judaism proclaims the survival of Israel and the meaning of that has no longer been left to guesswork, but made tremendously definite … the Jew must fight all who would commit or enable another genocide or enslavement of the Jews. That is the spirit and the law of Judaism.

Well, Obama has his beliefs and actions and it is a perfectly definite set, there is no vagueness about it. He commands that the Jew bow to the Muslim at every turn they do him hurt or threaten him and his children with death. Word it as softly as you please, the spirit of Obama is the spirit of the evil shadowed specter of the Beast of Austria insidiously billowing in and building and building to ever more horrific heights. The moment there is a question about a boundary line or a building or some Muslim somewhere complaining about any matter, see Obama rise, and see him spit at the Jew from the corner of his twisted mouth. The spirit of Obama being in its nature narcissistic and selfish — it is in the man’s line, it comes natural to him — he can fully live up to all of the teachings of Jeremiah Wright and even of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad; for the spirit of Judaism is entirely impossible to him.

Hagel has called the Palestinian-Israeli conflict the basic cause of anti-Western Arab and other Muslim attitudes and the fountainhead of Islamic jihad. This seems to be the most logical and reasonable prime mover of opposition to him. Yet in that regard he is just a very minor league version of Condi Rice and David Petraeus (not that long ago heroes of many who call themselves conservatives and pro-Isreal), and can never be more than a poor imitation of them. Why is this so important with Hagel when so many overlooked even more of it, or did not care, with Rice and Petraues?

Andrew Klavan, this is one of the best pieces I’ve read on PJM in a long time. Kudos! However the good news is that nearly 40% of the Jewish community did not vote for Obama. That in itself indicates a possible turn around.

When it comes to the Jewish vote and all the Jews that voted for Obama, I’m reminded of an old joke.

A man was drowning off a beach, and as he was drowning he cried, “Oh Lord, please save me. Do something.” A minute later, a lifeguard swims out and tries to save the drowning man, but the drowning man refuses saying, “God will save me.” Then a rowboat comes by and offers to save the drowning man, but the man refuses and says, “The Lord will save me.” Then a fishing boat comes by and offers to save the man, but the drowning man again refuses and says, “The Lord will save me.” Finally, the man grows so weak he drowns. When he gets to heaven, the man asks God, “Why didn’t you save me?” And God answered, “I sent you a lifeguard, a rowboat, and a fishing boat, what the hell more did you want me to do?”

The Jews in this country have had ample warning about Obama’s love for Islam and his hatred for Israel. It was also thoroughly discussed during the last election, but the Jewish voters chose to ignore those repeated warnings. Now they’re about to get a shock when Obama throws Israel under the bus once Iran gets its nuclear weapon. And when the Jews say, “Why didn’t anybody warn us this was going to happen,” all they have to do is think about that drowning man in the joke.

I don’t think American Jews see their future fortunes linked to the future fortunes of Israel. I don’t think they even contemplate that they are Jews at all. I lived in So. Florida for the last ten years and met many Jews who cheerfully voted for Obama and the Democrats not withstanding Obama’s position on Israel. They simply adhered to the liberal orthodoxy of Obama and ignored his positions toward Israel. I think they view themselves as assimilated and their Jewishness as vestigal. They inter-marry frequently and leave their Jewishness behind. I think in a generation or two the Jewish “presence” in America will be historical.

Jewish people would never confide in someone like you, paul h. you may not be a bad person but you are naive and unsophisticated. every Jew cares deeply about Israel. every Jew is Jewish regardless of whether or not they intermarry. that’s just how it is in the dna.

sorry Judy, 3 out of my 5 siblings, my step-mom and aunts, cousins all voted 0Dummer and so did most of my “Jewish” friends- many even campaigned for him! It is disgusting to me and started family fights- Only my one sister who is married to a former Israeli with Holocaust survivor parents and my dad voted R.
I asked them how can they vote the Muslim lover prez? They said they don’t give a crap about Israel and voted for other reasons (environment, finance, “women’s rights” OR they believe wholeheartedly that 0 is proIsrael- despite all indications to the contrary I cannot budge them. They do not feel any jewhate b/c they live in mostly Jewish enclaves isolated from the larger picture. They are forgiving and magnanimous to Muslims thinking they are being good by being compassionate- they fear to do to to others what was done to them in the past(prejudice. I live in S Florida an important state- they also refused to vote for Allen West and adore Debbie the Liar Wasserman Schultz. I love my family but I despise their political choices.

It seems as if we have slid down the slippery slope from the ridiculous to the absurd.
We have a regime that gave 2,500 AK-47′s to Mexican drug gangs, RPG’s and anti-aircraft missiles to Al Qaeda in Libya and Syria, now is providing F-16 Fighter Jets and Abrams M-1 tanks to the Muslim Brotherhood, and they insist that the American citizen turn in their 22 caliber target pistols.
Iran is transporting anti-aircraft batteries to Israel’s border, Israel fired on the same, tensions are almost at a boil in the Middle East, and Obama’s other priority is same-sex marriage so that two guys can put a ring on each other’s finger and engage is State sanctioned sodomy.

Andrew, your wasting your breath. Trying to convince liberal Jews of their own betrayal, via financially, politically, physically supporting their enemies, of their own people and the Nation of Israel, is like trying to convince a Democrat that raining taxes is bad for the economy and businesses, as well as trying to convince Hispanics in America, that Republicans are the party of Legal Immigration, Freedom of Religion and Speech, Liberty, Economic and Social Prosperity, etc, which is all in their interest.

Once an indoctrinated useful idiot, always an indoctrinated useful idiot. Well, there have been a few miracles of awakenings to the Truth.

Regrettably I’m afraid to certain extent you are right. First let me say that the Jewish vote is generally centered in areas that are overwhelmingly Democrat so community standards weights in. What is curious is the rationalization that takes place. One Jewish blog, The Vicious Babushka decided that conservatives are disgracefully looking for stuff to paint Hagel as an anti-semite, overlooking the evidence that Hagel supplied by himself. In short, for some reason a large percentage of the Jewish community, as well as the country for that matter, adopted Obama & Company as a G-d who can do no wrong. If evidence is provided showing Obama & Company as knaves and fools the problem must be the people presenting the evidence.

Brothers united for a future “Holy Rome” take notes here to the beast man posts. Why the beast man “sanctuary” must become 4th heaven wipe away their sexual sins for Rome to be born again. Beast man bring an explosion of Al qaida numbers the destruction of Israel and USA split in two then into 4 to 6 little beast man no nothing monster greed monger tribal areas
The war on the beast man begins starting tomorrow in the invisible. Whereas yesterday I enter the wise King Solomon temple in 11 heaven where tsnami after tsnami hits the great ring of power in the sea only adding to the wealth of the 11 heaven where the Queen of Sheba o her business in the 1st heaven in the thrones in hell north of the 11 th heaven and for the first time I enter the future 13th heaven on the west side before I go back to the 12th the Jesus heaven
more latter on coming conquests

“We need to have a conversaton on…” Fill in the blank. I suggest the following: We need to have a conversation on principles. Not race, not ethnicity, not politics, but principles. Then we would have to make the hard decisions about what to support and what to oppose. It would be a different America I think.