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Our article makes one error where it suggests 50% of people overall would prefer to see Corbyn stay on as leader. This is incorrect. The figure we came to was based on what figures the Daily Mail had reported on and they had not made clear that the 19% of people who strongly agreed that Corbyn should stay on was in fact part of the 31% who agreed he should stay on.

In response, we apologise for any misrepresentstion. That is more of an apology than you will get from the likes of the Mail or Express.

It leads us to two points to raise. Firstly that 21% of people are undecided and secondly that all the other points we raise are accurate and are backed up by the graphs within this article.

The original article in its original state continues below.

Yet again today two newspapers lead with headlines in the negative about Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership of the Labour Party.

A telephone based Ipos MORI poll of around 1,000 people conducted for the Evening standard led the Standard to lead with the following headline;

“Dump Jeremy Corbyn before election, say 42% of voters”

– Evening Standard 26/10/15

Whilst based on the same poll the Daily Mail ran with the headline;

“Fresh blow for Corbyn as poll reveals more than 40% of voters want him gone BEFORE the next election”

– Daily Mail 26/10/15

This is not new territory for us. We highlighted a similar poll conducted around a month or so ago where similar headlines were featured only for us to show that whilst some aspects of the poll were not great there were other aspects of the poll that were favourable to the Labour Party. In fact the entire poll was better for Labour than for the Conservatives.

We are going to do the exact same thing here today.

The photo below shows how the Daily Mail began their article.

How the daily mail began their article

It looks very bad and to the average reader wether they know much about Corbyn or not will now subconsciously believe that Corbyn is unpopular amongst Labour voters, however the poll result details make no reference to who the respondents supported in the first place. Are they Conservative supporters saying he should go?

However, a deeper look through the poll results, as are buried within both the Daily Mail and the Evening Standard articles themselves anyway, shows that things are not as bad as they seem and in fact in some cases are more detrimental to the Conservatives.

Here is our own headline as if we were reporting the results ourselves;

“Tories more unpopular with the electorate than Labour”

– RevSoc

Here is our findings. The Daily Mail touched on just two areas of the poll as highlighted below.

Four out of 10 voters think Labour should replace Jeremy Corbyn as leader before the next election, a new poll has revealed.

The IpsosMori poll found a third of voters feel ‘strongly’ that the 66-year-old leftwinger should be axed. Around the same the number say Mr Corbyn should be allowed to stay on to fight the 2020 election – with just two in 10 voters who claimed they felt ‘strongly’ about this.

The above two points refer to the same thing and the Standard goes deeper into those stats saying that 31% felt he should stay on, 19% felt strongly that he should stay on and with 42% saying that he should go it leaves 8% undecided. So you could easily say that 50% of voters think Corbyn should stay on with 8% undecided and when you factor in that you don’t know who is answering the poll, why would the Daily Mail lead with their headline unless there was an ulterior motive?

Older voters are particularly dissatisfied with Mr Corbyn. While 57 per cent of 18-34s think he is doing well, only 22 per cent of over-55s say the same.

Here it could easily be argued that the people who are going to be around the longest, the people that are the future of the country, the people that are fresh into politics, the people who are more aware of the type of politics needed in a modern age are the ones backing Corbyn in this age of ‘new politics’. Of course we don’t necessarily believe that but it could be argued that way.

This was all that The Daily Mail reported on and finished that section of their article with the following words. “Mr Corbyn’s dire poll ratings will spark fresh concern among Labour MPs over the party’s chances of winning back power in 2020″

When you analyse the data though, it doesn’t appear to be as ‘dire’ as the Daily Mail makes out.

The Express continued their article with one more question that is quite important. ‘Satisfaction of the party leaders’ and in an almost exact repeat of the last poll that we reported on, more people are dissatisfied with David Cameron than they are with Jeremy Corbyn.

51% are dissatisfied with David Cameron compared to just 39% with Jeremy Corbyn.

On one final note we have provided a little visual representation below as sourced from the Ipos MORI website.

The first photo below is hugely important because the figures both of the articles in the Mail and Express give are the figures on the right, ‘headline voting intention’, this is MORI’s own way of deciding how a vote would have panned out during a general election. For the ‘actual’ answers as to who people would vote for as given by respondents in the poll you need to view the left hand image. 35% Tory. 35% Labour.

voting intentions amongst respondents

Here is the same photo again but with the small print at the bottom in regards to MORI’s methods of working out the voter intentions.

voter intention is based on a ‘method’satisfaction ratings of party leaders

This final photo below is also important. Cameron’s satisfaction rating could be viewed as plateaued or on the decline and Corbyn is on the rise.

satisfaction rating over time for party leaders

We anticipate that like the last time we exposed a poll for being in fact favourable to Jeremy Corbyn we will get some cries of “How do you figure out that the Conservatives are doing badly compared to Labour when some of the results indicate that the Tories are doing better?” Well we have three responses;

Yes some parts of the poll suggest the Tories are doing better, but only when written a certain way. If you look at them from a different perspective the results are not as bad for the Labour Party as the newspapers above seem to indicate. Highlighting their bias.

When you factor in the early stage of the Corbyn led Labour Party and the fact there is four and a half years until the next GE. Plus the grassroots movement and the inspiration that Corbyn is whipping up, the results, again, look very promising. Especially when you consider the hard time Corbyn has received from the Press. In fact, it makes it even more impressive.

Some parts of the poll are, front and centre better for Labour than the Tories. It’s a simple fact that the right wing press refuse to report.

Yes that’s right the latest IPSOS MORI poll finds that Jeremy Corbyn and Labour are flying high with the electorate after just two weeks in opposition under Corbyn. The Tories have taken a battering and it’s what the press don’t want you to know.

Below is the link to an article in The Independent which talks about the MORI POLL in question and throughout paints a bleak picture of Mr.Corbyn. See for yourself here, we have put a few screenshots of the article below.

Well we followed the link to the MORI Poll in question and found that we can do an alternative report on its findings. In true opposition fashion but all factual none the less proving that the right wing media cannot be trusted to report the facts.

‘Public dissatisfied with the government and The prime minister poll finds’

‘Public dissatisfied with the government and The prime minister poll finds’

‘Poll finds Corbyn almost neck and neck with Cameron in MORI election poll. Just TWO WEEKS into his role as Labour leader’

‘Poll finds Corbyn almost neck and neck with Cameron in MORI election poll. Just TWO WEEKS into his role as Labour leader’

BUT Only 66% of those polled would definitely vote in an immediate general election

BUT Only 66% of those polled would definitely vote in an immediate general election

More respondents felt that A) The conservatives would say anything just to get into power. B) That people feel Labour have the interests of the people at heart, and C) Just 32% think the conservatives have any concern about the People most in need. D) Over half of respondents think that Labour understand the problems facing britain more than the Tories.

(ALL THAT plus the earlier dissatisfaction survey and STILL people would more likely vote Tory tomorrow….you have to question the sanity)

More respondents felt that A) The conservatives would say anything just to get into power. B) That people feel Labour have the interests of the people at heart, and C) Just 32% think the conservatives have any concern about the People most in need. D) Over half of respondents think that Labour understand the problems facing britain more than the Tories.

Almost half those polled says Cameron has more style than substance

Over half think Corbyn is more honest than Cameron

Overwhelming majority think Cameron is out of touch with ordinary people.

Almost half those polled says Cameron has more style than substance Over half think Corbyn is more honest than Cameron Overwhelming majority think Cameron is out of touch with ordinary people.

So, in most areas we can see that Jeremy Corbyn comes out on TOP through the entire poll yet that’s not how the Independent spins it in the write up.

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The right wing press will start to temper their rhetoric against Corbyn so as not to alienate that side of the electorate/readers so instead they will start more and more to manipulate things like this and it’s those things we on the left will need to watch more closely.