tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post7586443513433970406..comments2016-12-02T13:08:04.216-06:00Comments on Female Impersonator: Abortion a medium for art, political discourseAmeliahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10884754298018500343noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-14462839432173271022008-04-18T09:01:00.000-05:002008-04-18T09:01:00.000-05:00Seems like the original article was very misleadin...Seems like the original article was very misleading...it didn't led me to believe at all that this was merely performance art. Was this the artist's intended purpose? To keep that kind of important fact a secret? I can understand that, but if that was what happened, then it shouldn't surprise her that it has gotten a bit of negative feedback.<BR/><BR/>But I agree, she has the right to express herself in this way if she chooses to, but why do I feel so misled?Ameliahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10884754298018500343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-16758425300057327742008-04-17T22:07:00.000-05:002008-04-17T22:07:00.000-05:00I wonder if the abuse the right to choose triviali...I wonder if the abuse the right to choose trivializes it. Pro-life people are already jumping all over this, so that's bad enough... <BR/><BR/>To put this idea in a fucked-up comparison - you know how "true love waits" people are always saying that having sex with people before you're married ruins it for when you are finally married (not that I agree or live by it in ANY way...) but the over-abuse of the right to choose may damage the right when someone actually has to make that choice. I'm sure there are women in Yale College (and everywhere) who have had to make that choice and to see that decision overplayed and abused for the sake of art must be horrible. <BR/><BR/>In a similar vein, the right to free speech might be damaged too. Let's hope not, because the right to choose and the right to say whatever I want are two of my favorites.Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13285797515594923013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-44310625819984273172008-04-17T21:43:00.000-05:002008-04-17T21:43:00.000-05:00I'm with anon on this. I think this is a matter of...I'm with anon on this. I think this is a matter of free speech, and if we are talking about morals here, it gives anti-choicers fuel about how a fetus is a person and deserves moral agency. Now, I find this a little strange and harmful to her health and such, but I still think it is in her complete rights to do such. I am not surprised it was actually a fake, however, and actually a story constructed to make us talk about it.<BR/><BR/>However, I was disturbed by the <A>http://www.itchmo.com/costa-rican-artist-under-fire-for-starving-dog-as-part-of-art-exhibit-3485>starving dog art</A> which happened only once, but I still find it upsetting. Maybe its wrong I find that a dog has more moral agency than a fetus, but I do.dirtyrottenfeministhttp://dirtyrottenfeminist.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-1812262713479523672008-04-17T20:41:00.000-05:002008-04-17T20:41:00.000-05:00Freedom of speech. As disgusting as this is.Freedom of speech. As disgusting as this is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-5654994962825398452008-04-17T19:03:00.000-05:002008-04-17T19:03:00.000-05:00"Had these acts been real, they would have violate..."Had these acts been real, they would have violated basic ethical standards and raised serious mental and physical health concerns. Change anyone's opinion?"<BR/><BR/>I'm glad Yale realizes this. In another discussion thread this issue was brought up, as in, who on earth would approve of someone doing this to themselves with no medical intervention or examination. I'm glad it's a hoax, and I'm still not sure I get the supposed message.OutcrazyOpheliahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01962033787590226582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-2250691983560595562008-04-17T16:46:00.000-05:002008-04-17T16:46:00.000-05:00I'm personally never a fan of manipulating life "f...I'm personally never a fan of manipulating life "for the sake of art." I guess the artist technically has the right to do whatever she wishes to her own body, and I see how she is exercising her own "reproductive rights" but she seems to be harshly abusing her body and her reproductive rights. <BR/><BR/>I also agree that this seems like it could be highly offensive and inconsiderate for women who have experience miscarriages, or even abortions. <BR/><BR/>It doesn't seem like any type of productive discourse is going to come from this either, it seems like the kind of thing that will only polarize people further.Marthanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-4699209751835174642008-04-17T13:50:00.000-05:002008-04-17T13:50:00.000-05:00Lindsay, perhaps you could catch up with the artis...Lindsay, perhaps you could catch up with the artist and ask her some of these questions yourself? I would be all over that...if the distance wasn't such an issue.<BR/><BR/>It could be very interesting and helpful.Ameliahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10884754298018500343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-5245843221241813142008-04-17T13:42:00.000-05:002008-04-17T13:42:00.000-05:00I want to know what the artist believes the underl...I want to know what the artist believes the underlying message here would be... because I've thought about it for most of the day, and I can't come up with anything.Jezabelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06073483751626337353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-88938159794928606432008-04-17T13:03:00.000-05:002008-04-17T13:03:00.000-05:00I'm not sure what kind of discourse she anticipate...I'm not sure what kind of discourse she anticipates coming from this. It's likely that people will focus only on the abortions and not on the underlying message (whatever it's supposed to be).<BR/><BR/>It also occurred to me that it doesn't seem particularly sensitive to women who have experienced uninduced and unwanted miscarriages--what message does the artist think they'll take away from it?OutcrazyOpheliahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01962033787590226582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-36522853309747008652008-04-17T10:45:00.000-05:002008-04-17T10:45:00.000-05:00I am for allowing all women to have complete freed...I am for allowing all women to have complete freedom over their reproductive lives (which isn't the case for all women in America today, even with mostly-legal abortions, but that's a bit off topic), but I am confused by this exhibition.<BR/><BR/>The article says that the goal of this display is to "spark conversation and debate on the relationship between art and the human body" and that it was "not designed for 'shock value.'" <BR/><BR/>Why then, choose to purposely miscarry? Why, if not for shock value, would she choose to turn something like that into art? I feel like, perhaps, if the exhibit was truly meant for the purpose stated above, it could have been more successful using some other medium, because I feel like this will merely derail conversations so that they merely center on abortion.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I am curious to know how the artist feels that a miscarriage (through a woman's body) relate to art.<BR/><BR/>Please write another post after you see this, Lindsay. Unfortunately, Illinois is a bit far away, and I have classes to attend. :PAmeliahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10884754298018500343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6730657139931062421.post-82514141193264461202008-04-17T09:57:00.000-05:002008-04-17T09:57:00.000-05:00I think that that is quite possibly the most disgu...I think that that is quite possibly the most disgusting and despicable thing I have ever heard in my entire life. Inducing miscarriages in the name of art is beyond terrible. Not only is it morally apprehensive, but it may be even worse than abortion itself. She purposely impregnated herself just so she could miscarry inorder to get her fifteen minutes of fame. People like her sicken me.Jezabelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06073483751626337353noreply@blogger.com