"Clark's Slimy little Anti-American stab in the back of a real American war hero is beyond lowClass.
Clark has been kissing any Liberal Butt in Washington just to get a Big Job in Government
even to insulting his Military betters!"

Wesley Clark isn’t worthy to wipe up the blood in John McCain’s cell. And yet this ambitious little Obama lackey has so whored himself to a shot at the vice presidency that he’s willing to mock another warrior’s service.

And not just any warrior.

But a genuine, bona fide Silver Star awarded American war hero

You may not want to vote for John McCain, but you can’t disrespect him.

At least not his military service. That’s beyond the pale. That’s not what honorable or decent people do.

You don’t mock the shedding of a man’s blood. You don’t ridicule his torture at the hands of a savage enemy. You don’t diminish his service in uniform.
It simply is not done.

And yet this Barack Obama surrogate, on one of the Sunday talk shows, did exactly that.

And those sort of things don’t happen by accident. The Obama campaign is one of the best-run and most-disciplined presidential runs in memory. It doesn’t make false steps and it doesn’t do anything without thinking it through and measuring it for effect and benefit.
So this wasn’t an accident

torture at the hands...

http://www.boblonsberry.com/writings.cfm?go=4

megimoo

07-01-2008, 11:03 AM

"Obama Cries "They will Attack Me On My Race not the Issues !"

"But Clark’s comments marked the seventh time that an Obama surrogate has slammed McCain’s military record. Not McCain’s positions on Iraq or foreign policy, but his actual service !

McCain Besieged By Slander (Dems Attack Mac's Military Service)

Sen. Barack Obama gave a speech about patriotism yesterday entitled “The America We Love.” After listening to the rhetoric coming from his campaign, I assume the big question at Obama HQ was “Who you calling ‘we?’ ” Just hours before Obama’s pledge to “never question the patriotism of others in this campaign,” Gen. Wesley Clark was on CBS, demeaning Sen. John McCain’s military service. Claiming that McCain is “untested and untried” in foreign policy, Clark - the Grady Little of modern U.S. warfare - said, “I don’t think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification...snip
Obama has since thrown Clark beneath the now well-worn wheels of his campaign bus. But as Rich Geraghty at National Review noted, Clark’s comments marked the seventh time that an Obama surrogate has slammed McCain’s military record. Not McCain’s positions on Iraq or foreign policy, but his actual service.

Among the highlights:

Sen. Tom Harkin last month saying that a president with McCain’s military background and worldview “can be pretty dangerous.”

Former Sen. George McGovern (aka “Obama 1.0”) in April: “John, you were shot down early in the war and spent most of the time in prison. I flew 35 combat missions with a 10-man crew and brought them home safely every time.”

Sen. Jay Rockefeller: “McCain was a fighter pilot, who dropped laser-guided missiles from 35,000 feet. He was long gone when they hit. What happened when (the missiles) get to the ground? He doesn’t know. You have to care about the lives of people. McCain never gets into those issues.”

In fact, Politico.com and others have reported a concerted effort on the left to demean McCain’s service as a Navy pilot as either incompetent or criminal.

“From day one in the Navy, McCain screwed up again and again,” Jeffrey Klein wrote at the Huffington Post, echoing the “What did he do beside get shot down?” memo.

Some members of the Left suggest that McCain’s bombing of “civilian targets” in North Vietnam makes him a war criminal. Then there’s Medea Benjamin, co-founder of the liberal activist group Code Pink:

“I wouldn’t characterize anybody who fought in Vietnam as a war hero.”

Hardly surprising from a group that is currently trying to shut down Marine recruiting offices and calls representatives of the U.S. military the “enemy.”

It is fair to say that military experience alone does not prepare one for the presidency-but who expects politicians to keep their comments simple and to the point?

Goldwater

07-01-2008, 01:46 PM

It is fair to say that military experience alone does not prepare one for the presidency-but who expects politicians to keep their comments simple and to the point?

I wuv you noonwitch.

Zafod

07-01-2008, 03:16 PM

clark is a bravo foxtrot kind or buddy.....

Kimberly

07-01-2008, 09:19 PM

Here are snippets of Weasely Clark's speeches when he ran for president. I scanned through them looking for references he made to his own military service. Seems then he considered his military experience highly revelent and one of his most important qualifications. All the quotes come from his own website: http://www.clark04.com/speeches/042/

Senator Kerry, it is with great pride that I stand here and say, "The Army's come on board."

Both John (Kerry) and I served in Vietnam - and know what it is to be tested on the battlefield, fighting for your country.

I'd like to begin this afternoon by thanking all the foot soldiers in this battle: our terrific staff, our dedicated volunteers, our thousands of loyal supporters. And most of all, those who believed in me long before anyone even knew who I was: the people who drafted me into this race. The thousands who joined together to enlist me to serve.

You have proven what a General can do when he has the greatest troops in the world. And I can't tell you enough how honored and humbled I am by your commitment, your spirit, and your sacrifice. Because of all of you, this has been a cause, as much as it's been a campaign.

And as a general who spent thirty-four years fighting for my country, here is my pledge: I will do everything I can - everything - to make sure George W. Bush doesn't play politics with national security.

As you know, I have never run for office. I'm just a guy from the heartland, who never had much. I got into this race because I had devoted my life to protecting America's security and preserving our reputation around the world. And this campaign was a way of continuing that service.

In the end, I'm still a soldier, not a politician.

That's why I'm running for president. I'm part of the solution, not part of the problem. I'm not just another insider. I spent my life in the military, acting and doing - not in the halls of Congress talking and debating.

I'm part of the solution, not part of the problem. I spent my life in the military, acting and doing - not in the halls of Congress, talking and debating. I call it like I see it and let the chips fall where they may.

I haven't made my career in the halls of Congress, but on bases and battlefields.

I haven't just debated whether to send troops to battle, I've sent them. I haven't just debated whether to go to war, I led it.

I should tell you up front, I am not a career politician. I haven't spent years holding hearings and cutting deals with high-priced special interests. Four months ago, when I decided to run, the Washington-types tried to warn me off. They told me to leave politics to the politicians - that I was an outsider, just a soldier from the South. Maybe it's because I've never been in politics, but I don't believe that America is run by politicians in Washington. I believe it's run by people like us, in places like this.

And if there's one thing I learned during my thirty-four years in the Army, it's that real leadership comes from acting and doing.

We didn't have much more when I was in the Army. For more than half of my thirty-four years, I earned less than $50,000 a year.

That's what we believed in the United States Army. For 34 years, I served with men and women from all backgrounds under one flag: the American flag.

And I'm leading this campaign the same way I led in the Army.

34 years ago, when I was a young army captain in Vietnam, I was taken down by enemy fire. I was shot four times - in my hand, my shoulder, and my leg.

I've spent my life in executive positions - as a doer, not a debater.

I went to West Pont.

I led an infantry company in Vietnam.

I commanded an armored division, helped negotiate peace in Bosnia, and led the military forces of 19 nations in war and peace-keeping in the Balkans.

As a general, I was responsible for the lives of thousands of troops and their families - from fixing potholes on the base to providing schools and health care for their children.

I've spent my life in executive positions - as a doer, not a debater. I went to West Point. I led an infantry company in Vietnam. I commanded an armored division, helped negotiate peace in Bosnia, and led the military forces of 19 nations in war and peacekeeping in the Balkans.

As a general, I was responsible for the lives of thousands of troops and their families - from fixing potholes on the base to providing schools and health care for their children.

As a retired general, I sat on boards, chaired a startup of a high tech company, and worked as an investment banker.

A leader who has been on the front lines of battle and in the backrooms of diplomacy.

I served in the United States Army for thirty-four years. I was on the ground in Vietnam ... head of the Southern Command in Latin America ... and Supreme Allied Commander in Kosovo, where I led the effort to save 1.5 million Kosovar Albanians from ethnic cleansing.

That's what I brought to the Army during my thirty-four years of service, where I was responsible for the welfare and security of tens of thousands of men, women and children. Where I built coalitions and fought for peace.

Because I spent 34 years in the United States military fighting for our freedoms, and I'm not going to stop now.

Because in my heart, I'm not a politician, I'm a soldier.

These seventeen quotes come from the first eleven speeches at the link. Since I'm now sick and tired of reading his speeches, I'm going to guess he included at least two or three references to his military career in each speech. Therefore, I declare Wesley Clark a complete hypocrite.

megimoo

07-01-2008, 09:46 PM

Here are snippets of Weasely Clark's speeches when he ran for president. I scanned through them looking for references he made to his own military service. Seems then he considered his military experience highly revelent and one of his most important qualifications. All the quotes come from his own website: http://www.clark04.com/speeches/042/

These seventeen quotes come from the first eleven speeches at the link. Since I'm now sick and tired of reading his speeches, I'm going to guess he included at least two or three references to his military career in each speech. Therefore, I declare Wesley Clark a complete hypocrite.Ipso Facto and also a pompous bag of dog poop !

lacarnut

07-02-2008, 05:22 PM

It is fair to say that military experience alone does not prepare one for the presidency-but who expects politicians to keep their comments simple and to the point?

That is not what Gen. Clark said when he ran for Prez. is it? See post above. In other words, the SOB is a hypocrite.

Goldwater

07-02-2008, 08:34 PM

That is not what Gen. Clark said when he ran for Prez. is it? See post above. In other words, the SOB is a hypocrite.

No, Clark led men, McCain did not, that is his point, even if he is an idiot.

lacarnut

07-02-2008, 09:40 PM

No, Clark led men, McCain did not, that is his point, even if he is an idiot.

Clark's point sucks; that is my point and if you do not think so you are a retard.

LibraryLady

07-02-2008, 10:06 PM

Wes Clark is a disgrace.

Retired Gen. H. Hugh Shelton, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, says Democratic presidential candidate Wesley Clark has some "integrity and character issues" and won't be getting his vote.
"I've known Wes for a long time. I will tell you the reason he came out of Europe early had to do with integrity and character issues, things that are very near and dear to my heart. I'm not going to say whether I'm a Republican or a Democrat. I'll just say Wes won't get my vote."

Clark was supreme allied commander of NATO forces during the Clinton-era bombing campaign against Serbia. Shelton relieved him of duty in 2000, several months earlier than Clark expected.

Another retired four-star general told the Washington Post recently: "There are an awful lot of people who believe Wes will tell anybody what they want to hear and tell somebody the exact opposite five minutes later. The people who have worked closely with him are the least complimentary, because he can be very abrasive, very domineering. And part of what you saw when he was relieved of command was all of the broken glass and broken china within the European alliance and the [U.S.] European Command."

Clark's point sucks; that is my point and if you do not think so you are a retard.

Good stuff.

NCSteve

07-03-2008, 09:24 PM

I don't make a habit of trolling wingnut sites, but just this once, for this holiday, I'm making an exception.

Clark didn't mock him. He praised McCain's service in no uncertain terms. All he said was that getting shot down and being a POW is not a qualification for the Presidency. On NPR the next day, Clark made it clear that it speaks well of McCain's character, he called him a hero and conceded that the character part is relevant, but just getting shot down and imprisoned is not, in itself, qualifying.

But since I'm sure that won't convince you, let's talk about why maybe Wes Clark has some standing to talk about the relevance of McCain's service.

In February, 1970, Captain Wesley Clark was serving as a company commander with the Big Red One in Vietnam when his unit was ambushed by Viet Cong. Capt. Clark took four AK-47 rounds at the start of the ambush. I'll let his Silver Star commendation fill in the details on what happened next:

"As the friendly force maneuvered through the treacherous region, it was suddenly subjected to an intense small arms fire from a well-concealed insurgent element. Although painfully wounded in the initial volley, Captain Clark immediately directed his men on a counter-assault of the enemy positions. With complete disregard for his personal safety, Captain Clark remained with his unit until the reactionary force arrived and the situation was well in hand. His courageous initiative and exemplary professionalism significantly contributed to the successful outcome of the engagement. Captain Clark's unquestionable valor in close combat against a hostile force is in keeping with the finest traditions of the military service and reflects great credit upon himself, the 1st Infantry Division, and the United States Army."

Here's a picture of him in recovery.

http://www.clark04.com/records/

Note the casts. You don't get those for flesh wounds, buster, so put away your purple heart Band-Aids. They'd be even more disgraceful than when your kind was sporting them during the '04 GOP convention.

I realize you guys don't believe that anyone is a war hero unless he's a Republican. We've already cracked the code that you think you guys are the only patriots and all Democrats are a bunch of traitors and you're entitled to belittle the service of any of them, even if your own service to your country consists of nothing more than sitting on your fat ass in your basement, typing away your drivel with your Cheeto-stained fingers.

But, in the contest on who's most likely to have earned the right to launch attacks on "genuine bona fide Silver Star awarded American heros," as between you and Clark, its really not much of a contest, now, is it?

LibraryLady

07-03-2008, 10:33 PM

I am betting you never served or you would know how despised Wes Clark is by the military. My husband was an Army officer for 32 years and had the misfortune of working with Clark. He liked to say
"You always know Wes is behind you; you just have to figure out whether he's there to kiss ass or stab you in the back.

McCain certainly has the SIlver Star and much more.And he didn't get them by being a FOB. McCain can't lift his arms over his head. Clark can't get his foot out of his mouth. He is so furious that he missed his political chance - he thought it was his for the asking. He was such a suck up to Hillary till the tides turned. Too bad, Wes, you blew it again. At least this time you didn't almost bring us into a third World War - but I bet you will get relieved of duty again!!

Clark is brilliant but he has no sense. He was known to be horribly rude to subordinates, enlisted and SPOUSES! He blew up at a friend of mine for being in front of him in a line. He is a jerk.

blueyonder

07-04-2008, 08:05 AM

Excellent collection! Nice job.

lacarnut

07-04-2008, 12:06 PM

I don't make a habit of trolling wingnut sites, but just this once, for this holiday, I'm making an exception.

Clark didn't mock him.

You are full of shit as a Christmas Turkey too; Why did a liberal reporter like Andrea Mitchell state that it was a gaffe and why did Obama distance himself from those remarks? What's your answer wingnut?

megimoo

07-04-2008, 12:12 PM

You are full of shit as a Christmas Turkey too; Why did a liberal reporter like Andrea Mitchell state that it was a gaffe and why did Obama distance himself from those remarks? What's your answer wingnut?Have you noticed how many new Liberal bungholes are on the board?The incoming Guest list is several pages long.It looks like Obamama has taken a leaf from the RonBot big book of stealth and sent every freak in his bag to infest the boards and mouth his praises !They will attempt to redirect any posts critical of the Obama The Maisah and his acolyte Butt_Boy Clark .

lacarnut

07-04-2008, 12:36 PM

Have you noticed how many new Liberal bungholes are on the board?The incoming Guest list is several pages long.It looks like Obamama has taken a leaf from the RonBot big book of stealth and sent every freak in his bag to infest the boards and mouth his praises !They will attempt to redirect any posts critical of the Obama The Maisah and his acolyte Butt_Boy Clark .

When McCain slaughters the Magic Negro, these freaks can not claim the election was stolen even though in some localities the dead are allowed to vote Democratic.

megimoo

07-04-2008, 12:52 PM

When McCain slaughters the Magic Negro, these freaks can not claim the election was stolen even though in some localities the dead are allowed to vote Democratic.The dead,insane,drunks,mules,stray ducks,and any other critters Acorn can hogtie and haul to the polls !

Goldwater

07-04-2008, 02:36 PM

I am betting you never served or you would know how despised Wes Clark is by the military. My husband was an Army officer for 32 years and had the misfortune of working with Clark. He liked to say
"You always know Wes is behind you; you just have to figure out whether he's there to kiss ass or stab you in the back.

McCain certainly has the SIlver Star and much more.And he didn't get them by being a FOB. McCain can't lift his arms over his head. Clark can't get his foot out of his mouth. He is so furious that he missed his political chance - he thought it was his for the asking. He was such a suck up to Hillary till the tides turned. Too bad, Wes, you blew it again. At least this time you didn't almost bring us into a third World War - but I bet you will get relieved of duty again!!

Clark is brilliant but he has no sense. He was known to be horribly rude to subordinates, enlisted and SPOUSES! He blew up at a friend of mine for being in front of him in a line. He is a jerk.

But does not McCain have these supposed behind the scenes character flaws as well?

megimoo

07-04-2008, 03:34 PM

No, Clark led men, McCain did not, that is his point, even if he is an idiot.They don't have many troops flying with pilots on fighter planes from an Aircraft carrier !

And BTW since when do honorable men speak ill of American fighting men who served their country in time of war and are disabled by the wartime injury's?They call men who besmirch such men 'gutless cowards' where I come from !

McCain's own statements:
He was held in prison from Oct. 26, 1967 to,March 1973 with a total of three years
in solitary confinement for what his captors called a "bad attitude."

Mc Cain is far from an idiot as you call him.Bud Day received the medal of honor for his pain and suffering .
Mc Cain had two broken arms and a broken leg for his pains .So why don't you quit the politics and 'cut him some slack' as an American hero !

When McCain's plane was downed Oct. 26, 1967, he was fished out of Hanoi's Truc Bach lake by a Vietnamese civilian. snip
"Everything happened very quickly," McCain said. "I broke both my arms and a leg, and I was dragged ashore and I was beaten once I was pulled ashore." snip
McCain was held until March 1973 at Hoa Lo Prison, which the POWs nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton."
He said his hardships included beatings, a lack of proper medical treatment for injuries, and a total of three years in solitary confinement for what his captors called a "bad attitude."
http://www.mishalov.com/Vietnam_McCain.html

Goldwater

07-05-2008, 11:48 AM

Mc Cain is far from an idiot as you call him.Bud Day received the medal of honor for his pain and suffering.