I gotta agree, perhaps the world of finance need's some independent thinkers, like this Candidate for Colorado's Governship, and maybe someday, if
he wishes, a possible candidate for the Presidency, here in this video....

But you see what they are doing with numbers? Billion is now a small number. They flood us with numbers until they mean nothing anymore. That's what
they are doing.

It's gonna be something else. Something more basic than numbers.

"With or without you..."

Masses of people are contained within some smurfish ideas, like democracy, for instance. It has lost all meaning and its appeal is just a pretense, a
faint hope. The promise of it is gone. The fact is, those idle-minded criminals change political systems out of their idleness, and then create a
whole science about it, a sea or flood into which masses drown. People are not used to thinking creatively and they get sticky, like in bitumen
swamps.

The political system doesn't exist any more. It's one huge, drifting, opaque and dim broken hologram. Nobody is attending to it. The king and the
court are evacuating as we speak.

This is a complete overhaul of perception. As we are stuck with visions we are used to, a new and completely unbelievable paradigm is building up.

Over the next few years, molecular nanotechnology and the number-crunching abilities of quantum computing will enable humans and human/machines to
redesign their bodies and brains to increase efficiency until they both morph into a replica of each other. At that time, society may consider both
machines and humans as “transhumans.”

When the people's representatives don't even control the national budget, THAT MEANS YOU'RE IN A DICTATORSHIP.

Well that and the trillion bailout...

And the 175 billion US deficit in April... when tax returns are coming in... IMO May or June will show a 400
billion deficit... March was 333 billion...

Individual Income Tax down 21.5% compared to last year!!! Insane. National defense up 17% (so much for peace president), Medicare up 39.4% (and that
is with Washington cutting medicare payments to doctors by 20% MWAHAHAHAHA)..

The US is screwed... Around 2008, the US debt grew at about 2 billion/day... now it's at 5.3 billion/day... in 2012 what will it be? 12 billion/day?
12 billion/day is ONLY 4.4 trillion of new debt per year!

Well if the US falls to the IMF, it will be higher than that!

1.6 million layoffs planned for July 15 from US government jobs... this is gonna be ATROCIOUS.

Yeah the US TROOPS ARE RETREATING BECAUSE OUR TROOPS ARE SUPERIOR! - Baghdad Bob... I meant Bernanke!

But eh, don't worry! Tax credits on homes are coming down to an end...so less money will go out...but the housing market will sink down the
well...and put millions more underwater...

Bush tax cuts will expire too. So more people will leave america!

And VAT and Carbon taxes will be passed! Don't you worry!

1 in 8 americans on food stamps sure is good too!

I think we'll have to invent a new word to describe how the situation is... FUBAR ain't cutting it no more.

So I'm curious, when will the world care about any of this? I live in canada, and nobody that I know, even mentions the economy anymore. It's
something that goes unnoticed. So when will the apparently bad economy affect the average joe? 2015? And what consequences will there be? Should I
just take money out of the bank? Or are we talking about the completely collapse of the monetary system, making money worthless? Is that even
possible? Would that mean I don't have to pay debts anymore? As you can tell I'm not very smart when it comes to all this stuff, I do all sorts of
reading about the economy, but I can never tell whats what, they say its bad, yet they say its in recovery. It's like punching myself in the face
with both fists, which stories do I believe? From what I've gathered, the world wide economy is pretty much screwed, but I still don't really know
what the means. What is a worst case scenario?

Worst case scenario is stagflation. Which means salaries going down or staying the same, while inflation even hyperinflation kicks in....which is
happening in regards to food.

That means the average purchasing power goes down. For every dollar you earn, you can buy less.

Worst case scenario is all governments defaulting, IMF taking over, that means unelected bankers control your entire economy and you can't vote them
out of office. That means very high taxes and NO SERVICES. That means no pension for anybody. That means millions homeless. That means you work for
the bankers. That means we're back to the feudal ages.

This is already happening in the US. Cities are firing cops, closing schools, stop building roads, reducing services...while at the same time raising
taxes.

Worst case scenario is like being like Detroit, but everywhere. 40% unemployment rate, crime everywhere, high taxes, no services, rising prices, oil
at 10-12$/gallon... but worst. Since Detroit hasn't seen the dollar collapse yet, nor hyperinflation.

It's hell. We'll be like a mix of Iraq, Detroit and Haiti. And if it last for years, which it probably will, remember that Japan has been in a
``recession`` for almost 20 years now... the infrastructure will die... roads, water, sewers, electricity... not to mention that the others in the
world, China mostly, will use that crisis to expand, if it's not overthrown by it's own people.

And this scenario could be even worse if civil war breaks out.

And for the timeline... Faber says that within a year China is cooked. Other analysts say that the Eurozone is cooked within 6 months. And for the US,
within a year. Canada will die as soon (within a few weeks) as the US dies.

Yes that is what I am trying to tell other people in thread about the EU bailout the nations involved have to give away their rights to government
independently that is the take over of NWO, then the people are nothing but servants.

When we pay the Taxes we owned this year, that check was cashed within days, you can tell how desperate the rats are for tax payer money

Worst case scenario is all governments defaulting, IMF taking over, that means unelected bankers control your entire economy and you can't vote them
out of office. That means very high taxes and NO SERVICES. That means no pension for anybody. That means millions homeless. That means you work for
the bankers. That means we're back to the feudal ages.

And what kind of economy is that?

Ups! You answered the question

Society (infrastructure) is the condition for supporting huge number of people.
Once back to feudalism, reduction of people will be tremendous.
If this is their "plan" then it will be worse than biblical Flood.

It seems to be true that man is social animal - animal which can only survive in pen, until its turn to be slaughtered comes.

I think that the whole idea of Rambo (by Silvester Stalone) is now clear. His disappointment with society (as in the last Rambo movie) is very clearly
explained. In his last, fourth movie, the society is what he envisioned as is happening in Myanmar. Total terror. And total stupidity, impotence and
helplessness of those social "enthusiasts" who are fighting for "human rights".

Since I'm pretty sure that TPTB have no brain power to think of anything decent, I agree with you. We are going back to feudalism and beyond.

Another film which is very good, with Rutger Hauer, Flesh+Blood, in feudal Europe, laid off mercenaries roam the plagued world

Once the US government is overthrown, it should send tens of millions of guns to the civilian population in Europe, central and south America so they
can rise up and overthrow those sons of a gun.

Where did I read just yesterday, America is sending enormous quantities of weapons to Pakistan! A few weeks ago, someone here on ATS mentioned huge
shipping of weapons from American ports. Now we know where it went.

Here in the Balkans, no problem. Lots of weapons, and once America shows weakness, there will be another bloody revision of history

Long time ago (during the eighties) I noticed the idleness of the "tourist/entertaining civilization" and predicted its fall. The vacuum of
easygoing and entertaining contents is prevalent and the the real structure melts down (like from "molecular acid" of an Alien).

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