I don't mean to go full wagie memester but how the fuck do people work 40 hours...

I don't mean to go full wagie memester but how the fuck do people work 40 hours a week and have time to do ANYTHING substantial?

Don't give me this "168 hours in a week crap", let's look at this rationally. You sleep at 11 pm and wake up at 7 am (don't pretend you're a special snowflake who doesn't need sleep). You use your morning to get ready for work and commute. You commute back from work and cook food and do chores and go to the gym 4 times a week (bare minimum to not be a disgusting skinny fat) which requires more commuting. You read a minimum of one book every two weeks or else people will consider you a disgusting prole. You spend a notable amount of time on Veeky Forums or a small amount plus an irl social life (inb4 you claim you're a special snowflake again and you don't need either).

That's all the bare minimum. And ignoring the fact that many "high flying" jobs require more hours.

my average day: get up at 6:50 take bus at 7:30 start working at 8:20 stop working at 4:20pm get home at 5:45 check internet because not available at work until 6:20 dinner until 7 rest until 7:20 go jogging until 8 go gym until 9 play game or watch football (euros) shitpost until 11:30 sleep

I hate having no time for hobbies and I don't even have it that bad working hour wise. At least i'm getting money. Can't even train myself enough to get into graphic design career so I'm just wagecucking

15 months ago

BlogWobbles

you do substantial things by not doing what everyone else is doing and putting your time and resources to more meaningful pursuitsyou don't need to go to the gym to be attractiveyou don't need to read to be an intellectualcooking doesn't need to take more than 10 minutes of active prep time if you don't want it tosleeping for 6 hours a day is doable, especially with caffeine in the morning

The things you mentioned are easy fixes that lead to an awful health and shit like cancer.

15 months ago

PurpleCharger

@Harmless_VenomHere's how I make time for hobbies:home gym; work out 1 hr, 3x/weekwork from home 1-2x/weekcommute via train so I can shitpost/read/work while I commuteEverything I do is calculated/goal oriented/done according to a progression template

This way, I'm able to save ~5 hours per week on commutes to various places, actually feel accomplished when doing otherwise mundane tasks (weightlifting, meal planning, etc.), and still do all the things I need to on a weekly basis.

With the 5 hours per week I gain, I typically will go golfing or play a sport; beyond that, I like to take time on my weekends to do car repair & detailing.

Basically, what you're describing to me is a lack of focus. If you're just going through the motions with things, it doesn't matter whether you have tasks taking up 40 hours of your week or 4; you're going to feel a lack of accomplishment and you're not going to feel fulfilled.

I work a fair amount, but flexible work schedules have certainly afforded me some luxuries.

15 months ago

CodeBuns

@Harmless_VenomImplying I don't combine three of those together by listening to an audiobook while bike commuting too and from work.

spends two and a half hours a day playing games and shitpostingno time for hobbies

15 months ago

whereismyname

@SniperGod Honestly you need to replace jogging or something. Try finding a graphic designer you like that produces podcast content and consume that during your commute. Then practice it while you're on the tele or whatever. Just having that stuff on your mind in the morning will make you change your habits and find time.

15 months ago

Nojokur

I worked 80 hours a week for 6 months at minimum wage

It was the happiest time of my life because I never had to think about anything just work

I wish I could find another job with lots of OT but I moved to a slower area and it's difficult

Here's an average day for me with workout:530 am wakeworkout630 am shower, on train by 715get to work @ 8work until 430commute home, arrive home @ 515pursue whatever I desire for the evening (chores/sport/sometimes TV)in bed @ 945, asleep by 10pm

days without workouts look essentially the same except I get up an hour later. Days without a commute, I'll typically work an extra hour, from 7-430, so I can leave early another day.

Ultimately, I have time to pursue sports 3x a week on top of my workout schedule, I'm able to shitpost occasionally, and I focus on being active in my activities rather than doing things that are passive on my end (TV, reading without a purpose, etc.).

@Harmless_Venomget up at 6do substantial shit that isn't workgo to work at 10workcome home at 6do substantial shit that isn't workgo to sleep at 10

I find that naps and eating help power my evenings better. It's all about structuring your life and doings more optimally so you can be more productive even after a full day's work.

15 months ago

Poker_Star

I work a 14 days rotation on oil rigs / services vessels and I can do whatever the fuck I want in my off days

Usually involves a lot of socializing,shitposting, jiu jitsu, and overall just enjoying life

When I'm up there working 12 hours a day I try to workout at least 3 times a week and read a book until I sleep every night

Honestly I don't see myself working the 9 to 5

15 months ago

Methnerd

@Harmless_VenomI don't live in a suburbian mcmansion so it doesn't take me 2 hours to commute to work every day.

15 months ago

WebTool

sleep 9 hourscommute is 25 mins each way work 10.5 hours come home and do whatever I feel like for 3 hours 4 day workweek time management isnt hard

go to the gym 4 times a weekwork blue collar and youre at the gym 40 hours a weekcommute back from work and cook food 20 minutes a day do chores save those for the 3 day weekend, takes a maximum of 2 hours to clean whatever needs cleaning and 2 more to grocery shop

15 months ago

TurtleCat

@Need_TLCListen to books while you jog then. Learn a language or something through that. Layering tasks is what makes time management.

15 months ago

TechHater

It all depends. If you live far from where you work that makes a big difference obviously. But if you only live 10 minutes away you have ~6 hours of free time after work every day. That's plenty for me. But when I drove 45-60 min. one way for different jobs life was pretty miserable.

15 months ago

5mileys

bullshit, you need gym twice a week to maintain and no more, your diet is more important

also what the fuck do you have to do thats so specialYou talk a lot about special snowflakes but youre the one with apparently something so substantial you need more daylight hours for it

@Harmless_VenomGet up at 7:20Go to work at 8:30Off at 13:00 (half time job)Go to gym at 14:00Get back at 16:00 and literally spend the whole day figuring out what to do with my existence on Veeky Forums, watching films or reading the book in turn.My family never taught me passion or to enjoy any hobby. Just plain family survival. I'm trying to figure out what can I do to improve my financial situation and at the same time find something interesting to do. I know I won't be able to do half time all my life, but I'm sort of an intelligent underachiever.@SharpcharmBecause we are all healthy, vain motherfuckers.

@Harmless_VenomThey can't, including learn the basics of politics, economics, or financial markets.They are, however, required to act knowledgable regarding these subjects.To the point of punches, if necessary.

15 months ago

StrangeWizard

@Harmless_Venomwake up at about 9:30amget out of bed at around 10ambring daughter to summer school at 10:30amhome at 10:35 and check work email for 3-5 minutesdick around until 1:55pmpick up daughter from summer schoolchill until 2:15pm when wife gets home from a hard day's workcheck work email again for 3-5 mindick around some morebegin actually working from home at about 6pmbetween 6pm and 11pm go from tv to work to internet to work to tv to work etcget bj before sleepDo every day during summer months. Changes very little when school starts back

Am a 24 year old NEET with subsidy money that does voluntary work 4 times a week.Want to leave the NEET live and get a fulltime job.Almost every fucking job even the most simple ones require some kind of specified study.

I should've never studied IT it's shit all i can do with it is callcenter work and most of it is part time which is not worth it for me.

working full time sucks. My job allows me to leave early sometimes and I do it every time I can, but still I feel like after living so much of my life there, work spreads and invades every free moment(thinking about pending stuff for the next day, or next week, or next month etc.)

That's literally 3 full hours everyday to do whatever I want to. This isn't even counting the weekend when I can do literally whatever I want all day with maybe an hour or two for chores/honey do list and a couple hours for eating and hygiene.

The real question is why are you such a weak willed individual that you can't break away from your childish addiction to dumb things like the internet or Veeky Forums?

15 months ago

BunnyJinx

Easy, I work 12 hour shifts at night. I work 3 on 3 off, 4 on 4 off.

On days I work it can be difficult but at least I'm home during the day if anything needs to get done.

15 months ago

Garbage Can Lid

@Harmless_VenomMe:up at 0600in work at 0700finish at 1500shopping/banking/calls etc.cycling 50km (bi-weekly)staring at BTC charts vacantlyTV/documentary/readsleep at ~0000

15 months ago

Spamalot

@Sharpcharmdo you realize one of the central benefits to having money is the luxury:to spend a lot on your diet and supplementsto exercise for recreation and no reason other than to try and look goodto be vain

15 months ago

Evil_kitten

neet here, i have all day to do whatever I want but zero motivation after abusing alcohol and drugs for years. i have dozens of things i want to get good at or start little projects and all sorts of ideas but unable to do anything other then browse the internet all day , other then kill myself, wat do?

15 months ago

5mileys

@SniperGod Yep, gave up wagecucking a while ago for sweet neetdom. Nothing better.

Gonna start working part-time soon.

15 months ago

iluvmen

@Evil_kittenstart your day with something trivial but arguably productive.

Go grab coffee and a newspaper each day. Build a routine and you can begin to flesh it out with hobbies.

Good luck.

15 months ago

massdebater

not literally shit posting while shitting on company timeyou dont take 15 minute shits user?

also can we agree that gf's waste all our time? if i want to work on a project its a nagfest. shell shit talk me to her friends that im always "on his computer".

15 months ago

Gigastrength

@massdebaterdrink a ton of company provided coffee and watertake piss breaks every 20 minuteseat at desk for extra hour of pay

Feels fucking good man

15 months ago

BinaryMan

I don't work weekends so that's the only time I can relax and do things I want to do,in the week it's just work/eat/sleep

15 months ago

farquit

http://wallstreetplayboys.com/1-million-10-years-zero-excuses/This website has some of the best financial advice on the web. None of that dont use a smart phone and save 500$ a year type shit. There is no such thing as work like balance, you have to make sacrifices. The goal is to make smart sacrifices when you are young. If you got i to a good college either aim for a silicon valley start up or wall street. If either of those arent possible do sales. Grind when you are young because you have energy and eventually you will leave everyone else in the dust. Learn some skills (everything needs sales) and eventually start your own business. You cannot get rich trading time for money. Hammer that in. 100$/hour is only 200k a year before taxes. Comfortable but not rich. A business lets you leverage your skills and capital and assuming delagation is a skill you have learned you can save time and make money. Working full time sucks ass. That should give you the drive to want better for yourself.

15 months ago

massdebater

I work 60 hrs m8 jobs cake so I'm not even mad

15 months ago

Techpill

@Harmless_VenomLet me guess, you need 25 hours a week to raise children as well because your life is meaningless without reproducing too, right?

If you truly enjoy what you do, you won't give a shit about having "free time"

15 months ago

Garbage Can Lid

@Harmless_VenomIt is this or wander out in the woods somewhere and start from scratch. Have fun with that. As Bob Dylan said, you gotta serve somebody.

15 months ago

Firespawn

@Harmless_Venomlive in a major city. I live in NYC and I'm always able to do something cool.

15 months ago

FastChef

@Harmless_VenomThe high flyers can afford to literally have every daily chore done for them. Clothes, food, shopping, cooking, cleaning, etc. Literally don't have to set up their own TVs.

The 40 hour wagecucks are basically perma-burnouts unless they have a non/semi-working spouse. If you go further and have to work weekends like I do, you basically become a robot.

I read about previous generations and christ those fuckers had it made. They did things after work, they had savings, they went on weekend trips, they could afford a house, 3.6 children, two pets and a car. With a highschool diploma.

The likes of me have a third level (STEM) education, work 60+ hours a week, have 3 hour commutes, spend 40%+ of income on rent, and will never be able to buy a house within 100km of our jobs.

I routinely clock 16-32 hours of overtime / paid details per week, occasionally more. When I only put in 40 hours I'm astonished at how much spare time I have.

15 months ago

Bidwell

@FastChef Same here. Currently 50hr/wk career with 9/10hr shifts Saturday and Sunday at Walmart. 8 years of private engineering school, in debt up the wazoo, 32 yrs old, a virgin, no girlfriend, all friends are married, cry cry moan cry cry.

Some day I'll have enough time and money for that trip to Tokyo I've been waiting for, for like 10 years.

get up at 4amleave by 5amstart work at 5:30amstop work at 6pmget back at 6:30pm if i dont stop for groceries or suchdinner at 7:30pm8-9pm watch tv or play a game9pm-4 am- sleep

you really DO have no time, i mean 6 hours to do what you want as compared to my 1?

15 months ago

Sharpcharm

Wake up 600Leave for work 6301 hr break play sudoku/read bookArrive home 1600

option a:Work out until 1700Shit post until 2000Fun time with friends until 2300Sleep until 600

option b fishing with brothers until 2300Sleep until 600

Only shit people can't time manage.

15 months ago

TechHater

@Harmless_VenomWell OP, there are hundreds of thousands of work at home jobs that are honestly so wonderful they should be mandatory. I wish everyone could enjoy working at home.

Sleep at 12-2 AM because I don't need to wake up extra early to get dressed/commute/make breakfast.Wake at 8:20 AM and turn on my computer while I make breakfast, take a piss, get water.Login to workplace at 8:30AM to "start my day"Check work email to see if I have any work, 95% of the time I don't.Play vidya / watch videos / take a shit / eat something / watch a movie or tv show / learn a new skill / make extra side money / look at stocks / browse Veeky Forums and reddit all day until I get an assignment.Do assignment in 20 minutes. Go onto occasional 30 minute meeting.Continue to fuck around.Boss loves me because I am knowledgeable and resolve any issues so quickly.Cycle this until 5:00 PM and log off of work.MFW doesn't feel like work at allMFW I really love my jobMFW I am a top 15 percent earner in the USA doing basically nothing.

The only time I need to work is at the end of the year when things admittedly get pretty busy. The kicker is, it's just as busy as any normal job, so a busy two last months to do fuck all for the rest of the year.

You need 8h of sleep per day to be in peak physical condition, so lose that freedom hour.

15 months ago

Nojokur

@PurpleCharger I work in a fortune 100 company (top 20 in the USA, but not worldwide), I don't want to say which though. I imagine most fortune 100 companies have these perks.

I am pretty high up in my field, working in QA. The reason why I do so little work is because our department is huge, so we have 15 people who we need for one part of the year and do fuck all for the rest.

Most people here (on 4chan) are younger, I started as an analyst and worked my way up. My salary is only top 15 percent if you include our bonus.

15 months ago

Fried_Sushi

buy shit on craigslist once or twice per daysell said shit on ebay make 100 dollars a daywork ~5 hours a week.

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15 months ago

Raving_Cute

@Nojokur@PurpleCharger Want to add I work in an expensive city, so my salary is inflated to cost of living. I'd be closer to 25-30% top earner probably if I lived in the midwest thinking about less value on raises over the years.