Just to let everyone know yes I have been watching the e17 development. I almost have my hardware issues resolved and as soon as that is put to bed I will begin building a new Macpup and updating and themes and other stuff......_________________www.macpup.orghttp://macpup.org/runtt21

I am working on the new macpup. I don't know if this current build of e is going to be in it . I am testing several to see which one ( the newest 17.1 or an older snapshot ) will be in. But I am actually doing something.....

Here is a shot of EFL 1.7.5 with elementary,emotion,ethumb,terminology and e 17.0 It has several issues so I am trying 17.1 next. Running precise 5.4.3 .

EFM has improved a lot but as far as performance and options it can't touch rox especially with the extra rick click options. 529 has those installed by default. 529 has EFM just enable the starter option in the settings panel. But it wont have a menu entry you will need to use th edesktop icon for that.

529 is PAE. I haven't decided yet on doing both a pae and non pae version. If I do a non it won't be until after the main release. And that is a long way off .I haven't decided on the version of e I am going to use. I'm not real happy with 17.0 or 17.1 so I am about to drop back to an older snapshot to see if it works better with precise.

Some of the extra modules are hardware sensitive and won't work on everyone stuff. It getting to the point that Raster is talking about dumping them altogether. The newer builds of e will give a warning message when you load any of them now. I plan on dropping some of them for the next pup.

I frugaled Macpup 529 my 64 bit laptop. And it works nice, but I don't seem to have opengl working. And when I go into the xorgwizard to choose my default graphics card, all of the radeon and ATI options crash X, except for Vesa.

I found a xserver-xorg-video-radeon in the puppy package manager, but I don't know if it's safe to install it.

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