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Thursday, December 27, 2012

Scene On The Ground In Southern Arizona/Has The Potential AWB Got You Doing Anything?

Today I went around and did a survey of our local gun shops. Not a
Glock mag over 10 rounds to be found. The 17 round 9mm Smith and Wesson
M&P Mags were sold out but I saw a handful of the 13 rounders (if
you need them email me). Lots of XD mags (ditto). A few AR mags to be
had. Some 20 rounders and a few Thermamolds I think. One shop had a
stash of PMAGs they were guarding like their daughters honor.

Saw
a couple AR's. An Olympic Arms rifle with a stainless barrel was going
for $1,400 and a basic Del Tonic was going for $1,200. Both AR's were sold almost immediately. Like came out of the box and got sold to folks who have been waiting for them.
The shop owner was tossing a couple mags in with each gun free of
charge. They are keeping prices reasonable and only increasing based on
the rise in their costs. As the owner said "You guys are my customer
base and will continue to be my customer base after this is over." He is
a gruff old guy but a strait shooter.

There are
plenty of pistols available in the stores. Maybe not every model
conceivable but if you want a handgun you can get one. Shotguns, rimfire
and bolt guns seem unaffected. Ammo wasn't too bad. I did notice that
the same .223 I bought for 9 bucks (per 20rds) a box about a week ago
went up to 13 and there is a limit of 5 boxes per customer.

The
private party market here is crazy. Supply is catching up to demand but
at stupid prices. Tons of guns worth $800 two weeks ago are now up for
sale at 2 grand or more. Quite a few parts guns with total no name stuff
I would not have paid $650 for 2 weeks ago are now up for sale for 2
grand or more. Folks have decided that WASR AK-47's are now worth $900
on up. It looks like a lot of folks have brought dusty rifles out of the
safe to cash in on the hysteria.

The trades folks are
trying to do are interesting. Folks seem to be fleeing .40 in favor of
9mm and oddball toys (PSL's, old Colt 1911's) for semi auto rifles like
AK's and AR's. I don't know how many of these trades are actually
executed but that's what folks are going for anyway.

Now to the next part of this post.

Has The Potential AWB Got You Doing Anything?

Personally I
am not emptying our savings, maxing out the credit card or anything
crazy. Have however pushed back some other things and prioritized the
stuff we can use the most. I have bought or ordered about 14 various AR
magazines plus a few 22 mags and bought about $400 in AR spare parts. A
lot of this is really stuff that was on the list but hovering just
below the level that gets acted on. Looking for another handgun or two
if the right opportunity presents itself. That is about all I can do but really all we NEED to do so it is OK.

If you are doing anything to prepare for what may be coming please let us know in the comments section.

We have discussed this recently and I hope people prioritize those bits of gear that are the more likely to be unavailable soon. Assuming you do have at least one rifle of the "assault" persuasion then standard cap mags are of huge importance. Same with handgun mags. Acquiring the pistol later shouldn't be that hard. But the magazines required to run either the pistol or rifle will more than likely be impossible to get very soon

You don't hand something you're serious about off to Joe Biden and some idjit commission. The hysteria is already acquiring a chill once you get away from the gun shops or anti-gun cable news.

Law enforcement sites are full of rank-and-filers who want to end gun-free zones, and arm either anyone with a CCW, or one to several staff/teachers, because they recognize that in an active shooter scenario, the local PD is the SECOND responder.

And the final nail is the, yet aain, falsely hyped lie that Mr. Dillrod used an assault rifle. Turns out, in fact, he used four pistols, and the rifle so vilified sat unused in his car trunk, where CT troopers recovered it after zombieboy was hardening up in rigor mortis.

Which is where prospects for any sort of AWB, ammunition, or magazine laws sould be relegated.

The number of NRA A-rated Democrats who've not walked, but hurdled back to safe pro-gun rhetoric in the last week is enough to kill any hope of this nonsense getting out of committee, and Harry reid isn't going to announce his retirement by slating DiFi's latest nonsense for a vote anytime soon.

I don't own an AR rifle or high cap pistol (sold them all years ago) so the "great panic" looks silly to me. Whats this? The fifth or sixth time everybodys lost there minds over Obama? But y'all have fun trying to get 2000$ out of that AK after this one blows over(BUT I PAID 60$ FOR THAT MAG!!!).Yeh but its still only worth 12$.

2heavyb, Mags are important for sure. Unfortunately they are (to put it nicely)a bit problematic to find these days. Thankfully if you are ready for things to go all red dawn you are ready for an AWB.

@Aesop, You may well have a point about Ole Joe. I hope you are right.

@ 6:07, Interesting point. Some folks who bought at the peak could well lose out on resale. Personally I picked up some stuff I might not have gotten any time some otherwise but only payed a $40ish premium over 2 weeks ago prices. An extra buck here or there is a bit different than paying 1,200 bucks for a WASR-10 or 2 grand for a no name AR.

I'm using this time to stock up on cleaning supplies, and other things- such as medical supplies. Can't afford it right now, and I am gambling on this being a "political posturing" that goes no where. If it does? Well, I would be screwed anyway, since I haven't trained on that potential AR that I would have panic purchased for twice the price (can't see me taking an "outlawed" gun to the range after the fact)...so I will redouble my efforts in other areas right now...

i'm set, even thinking about cashing in on the hysteria. i have 20 ar mags on backorder, but don't expect to receive them, along with 3k rounds that has been on order since MARCH! if i cash out all my ar's i'll be a rich man again and will simplify logistics greatly. i'll still have my fal's. as far as conditions, its a madhouse. no 22lr available even, much less 223/308/9/45/40. used ar's are flying off the rack at 1900.00!!! new ones are long gone. mags by the ones and twos are going for 30 bucks when available. the local shop is basically being stocked from his home stash now. an ar lower that was 69.00 last month went for 400. one guy i know took out a LOAN to by an ar!!idiots. i'm holding out until the ban, might go 2.5 or 3k apiece:)

The ammo runs seem curious to me. I mean I know that has been a "back door" gun control tactic the left has entertained but this time I don't get it. Of course it could just be irrational panic from sheeple...hmmm I think I just answered my own question.

Added a few more Glock 22 mags and some Magpuls to my stocks. I paid regular price for them since I purchased them from an LE dealer. They kept their price the same until they ran out. So no over paying here.

Bought 10-30 rounders and 10-20 rounders for the extra AR receiver and parts kits I picked up this last week, as I keep an extra receiver and complete built parts kit for every AR I have, maybe silly to some people, but I like having some comfort.Picked up another three ruger BX-25’s for the 10/22Picked up three more hi-cap glock magsAnother 2,000 .22’sAnother 100 “00” buckshotAnother few white boxes of .40 and .45Picked up extra CMMG .22 conversion kit for an AR w/three magsKershaw KnifeLeatherman Wingman multi-toolTwo high intensity handheld LED lightsConventional Lee powder scale for reloading as backup to Dillon electronic scaleLots of Captain Morgan rum on sale too, may need it!Couple more cases of canned goodsPicked up some more silverConsidering buying an enclosed cargo trailer to store my preps?Most of everything I bought was on sale this last month, just right before the panic, as I seen it coming, so I complimented my existing inventories, as I am looking good overall considering the circumstances. I learned my lesson on reloading supplies the last two times the panic occurred, so I stock piled enough primers, powder and casings for .40, .45 & .223’s. I also rotated my 70 gallons of fuel supply too. I was lucky enough to win an auction, picking up more Hardigg storage containers and Platt hard-side storage cases too, scored big on that deal. I took some time off this last week, checking out the local gun shops, heard some interesting stories. One shop employee decided to sell his less inexpensive personal AR-15, brought it out in front at the counter, held it up, one man said he would take it, told him $3,000 and he sold it. One store sold 462 black rifles in just over three days, as that was a few days ago, probably all sold out now. Our local Cabelas had three store employees stocking ammo only, it was coming off the shelves faster than they could stock it. One of the employees informed me that customers were getting into yelling matches at the counter, fighting over the purchase of the last few AR’s they had in stock. Not many .22’s rimfires, Hi-Cap mags or .223 left in my area, they disappeared quickly. Still waiting for the last case of .223 ammo ordered three months ago, guess I will be spending more time in the garage reloading. One customer in the store was panicking that he couldn’t find any 9mm, asked me where he could find some in any other stores, as I showed him plenty right behind him where he was standing. I was in the reloading section and one couple asked me for their help, they were buying reloading cast bullets, thinking they were buying stock ammo cartridges, WTF? Some people own guns who shouldn’t. It’s like the zombies at the range who load cartridges backwards in the mags LOL! Need some entertainment, hang out at the local gun stores or do a search on “AR-15” on Craigs list. My new girl friend doesn’t know about my prepping as yet, but she was somewhat looking at my supplies in my garage the other day, but didn’t say anything, guess its time for the talk……LOL! I guess I should hang a tarp over the shelves to conceal things somewhat or begin loading the Hardigg cases and eventually into a cargo trailer, it’s a toss up, over new needed roof, cargo trailer or girl friend, hummmm?