You would flick a marble up the side with a spring, like a pinball machine, and the first player to get all their cars to the bottom won.

cool

Yeah my first was Indianapolis500 on Amiga that got me hooked I think. Decent driving model and awesome damage!I think it had pit stops, even. It was very comprehensive, very lifelike.

I mean I've played 'racing' games, including a very simple one on a programmable calculator of all things, but I do not class those as simulators.

I find even classing the C64 TD in that category, although it's getting there. I believe there was some ZX Spectrum game similarly simplistic but first person racing - still, it did not stick with me.Edit: oh yeah, this one, the "Checkquered Flag" : http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekid.cgi?id=0000912

Having said all that, the real hook was LFS - online racing is so much more fun than lapping alone! Funny that LFS still had a better interface & community features then, than AC now. Huh.

If all else fails, there's el-cheapo (but fully functional) certificates to be had here, $12/yr: https://www.namecheap.com/security/ssl-certificates/I am regularly using these guys, the certificates are industry standard just without any warranties - and most importantly w/o company checks, so it's easy-peasy to get one.

Simone, you bastard, you still haven't sent me strawberries, and you're pumping cash into Wally's coffer!

Hhahahahahahaa just saw this as my internet fell down again i had to replace 15 mt of tel cable.......but ye Bird its a pleasure to give wally a little help!! Bird please if you can stop over on my place i will give you some passion fruit !!!!!!! I am not growing starwbs anymore.Anyway........Merry Christmas to everybody enjoy your family or whatever, really just ....enjoy!!!!

Simone

I love passionfruit but as it's a long day's drive to your place, with great regret, I'll have to decline the opportunity for now.

It's very nice of you - and everyone else - to help running the show a bit here, thanks guys!

Shitty night for me, too. I could not find my qualify legs - as usual - but also that 98% grip was enough to throw me off big time, somehow. I just could not get the car around corners fast without losing the rear.

The race started ok, seemed like we'll have an epic battle, but got in a tangle with Phil, had to take an early pit, making the race a two-stopper already. Then another when I overtook AbleArcher's merc on the outside of T7 (the tight right hander) and he could not turn in entirely tight (or maybe I did not go wide enough) - although this second did not cause too much damage and I was able to drive on no probs. Then I've overrevved the engine on a downshift pretty bad, opted to fix it (bad idea!!!) so I sat in the pits for about 5 minutes the second time.

After the first one I still had a chance not to be dead last (slight, because of the fuel usage & subsequent pit time), but after the second; nothing.

Hm...yet another track where the short tail will be schooled on the straight, and no way to take the position back later. Not complaining, just stating the facts

I've managed a decent low 37 but I'm burning up the rears after a lap or two...:/ The last bit was always a weak part for me on this layout, I reckon in the proper hands the shorty could do a 36 no probs. I just can't get the last 3 corners done properly, especially the 3rd last, I keep losing grip there (as usual for me).

You're only 0.15 off of Kcender's C9 time!

Might be time to start adding ballast back to the Shorty!!

...and an extra manadatory pit stop to the c9 to even the pit times out

No, I reckon even as it is, it's a penalty that you have to try and get past on the twisties, not comfortably on the straight. The pit stop & fuel usage is an added burden, still.

Hm...yet another track where the short tail will be schooled on the straight, and no way to take the position back later. Not complaining, just stating the facts

I've managed a decent low 37 but I'm burning up the rears after a lap or two...:/ The last bit was always a weak part for me on this layout, I reckon in the proper hands the shorty could do a 36 no probs. I just can't get the last 3 corners done properly, especially the 3rd last, I keep losing grip there (as usual for me).