Back in May I attended the EOS VIP Party, where I also met some very interesting and cool fellow steemians. At the party, there was also plenty of delicious food offered. However, I've gotta admit... those sliders were pretty darn delicious, and perhaps by far my favorite!

And that got me thinking... you know, everyone ought to have a slider, even little minnows. We all deserve at least a chance to try one, or two, or three of these savory and deliciously delectable delights! 😋

And now part of that "dream" has finally come to fruition... I'd like to introduce you all to my latest TamperMonkey script: 😁

Trying to implement all this directly into the current steemit.com interface has certainly taken me for a bit of a spin. But then again, I've been conceptualizing some of these ideas for almost as long as I've been posting on STEEMIT!

Part 1: Why can't I have a vote slider too...

Since HF19 was released, one of the biggest pains felt by fellow steemians with under 500 SP is that they can't access the vote slider. Before HF19, it really wasn't such an issue. Given each vote cost 1/2% vote power at the time, and you could vote 40 times a day before reaching 80% vote power, sub 500 SP users would rarely find much use for the slider anyway.

Post-HF19, however, each vote was now worth 2%, and those same 40 votes would knock you right down to 20% vote power! That's probably fine for newer users with under 100 STEEM POWER who probably don't vote all that much yet anyway. As you grow, learn the ropes, and integrate and interact more with the STEEMIT community, you also tend to vote more. You recognize the value of voting up thoughtful or appreciative comments as well.

I mean, in the virtual world, what better way is there to "spread the love", have a "fist bump" or two, along with a quick "thank you". Tossing even a few cents on a comment says all that and more in spades! As such, this becomes second nature for more established users. For those just starting out, those options aren't even on the table... untilNOW that is!

While alternate STEEMIT interfaces such as @jesta's chainbb.com or eSteem Mobile App users have offered the vote slider to lower SP users for a while now, it's never been available on STEEMIT.com itself! Of course, you also have to be comfortable sharing your "posting key" with other services as well. With this TamperMonkey script, that all changes, along with much more as you'll soon discover (and it all works directly on STEEMIT.com)...

First, I just wanted to make one thing clear. Lately many low SP users have experienced bandwidth issues interfacing with the blockchain. While there are several initiatives in the works to alleviate some of these issues, be aware that the more transactions you make on the STEEMIT blockchain (ie. more votes, especially many very small votes) the greater the chance you may be rate-limited for a period of time. If this happens to you, just wait a little while for your account to recover. Also consider voting a bit less frequently, and with more vote power as well.

Now, I don't know about forever, but for now, unless the STEEMIT "powers that be" find reason to change this feature in an upcoming hard fork, you can continually monetize past works... through COMMENTS! While your posts may expire, post comment threads can continue indefinitely! I really started to think about this after HF19, when some comments I had written earned me more in payout than several of my earlier posts combined!

I still receive comments here and there on some of my past content, especially my more "popular" posts. And that's what the script looks to "monetize". In the example, you'll see that we missed the "opportunity" to vote on @nepd's "HairShares" post, as the active voting period had ended. However, there were still plenty of fresh comments by @nepd that had not yet expired!

As long as a post still contains at least ONE ACTIVE COMMENT, whether the post is 1 week or 6 months past payout, the "Past Payout Monetizer" will find and target THAT COMMENT for an upvote instead. And as simply as that, you can easily reward the author for their hard work, even if you've discovered it months after the first payout! Now, just for reference, this doesn't mean you should revisit all your old posts once a week with a fresh comment. However, back in the day when a video on our YouTube channel vlogolution went viral, people would continually leave comments on them, some even to this day!

I believe this dynamic will grow on STEEMIT as well, especially as more people understand the potential benefits. And if you still have people commenting on your past posts, there's one more incentive to leave a nice comment in response, even if it's just a quick thank you for appreciating your work!

Fair and cost effective incentive system for node providers to store and stream content.

Now, I'm not saying I have every aspect of this completely worked out. But what if at least part of the rewards from a particular steemQ post (comments included) could be thought of as adding funds to a continuous faucet. Each stream provider could be paid some fraction of a cent per second of video or audio streamed. If the faucet "runs dry", viewers will be greeted with a message to that effect.

If the content is considered valuable enough, anyone can come in and add some more "upvote power" to a comment, even months later, and the video immediately comes back online again. In essence, it continues to produce for both content creators and content streamers, indefinitely! The power of that one vote may be sufficient to "keep the ball rolling", while supporting 1000s of additional views for others to enjoy.

If you're also using my "Hide Resteems" script, be sure to update to the latest version. I made some additional tweaks to capture a few more edge cases. For both scripts, capturing all of STEEMIT.com's state changes is a bit tricky. While I believe they now catch 95%+ of the page changes and dynamic updates, some might still slip through. For example, if for some reason you're missing the RESTEEM button, just try refreshing the page.

If you plan to use both scripts together, also make sure that "Hide Resteems" loads first! I tried dealing with the conflicts (mostly jquery scope-related issues), but due to the implementation, this seems to be the easiest solution for now. If you happened to install "Hide Resteems" (HR) after "Steemit Post Vote Slider and Past Payout Monetizer" (SPVS), go to HR's "Settings -> Position", and make sure the order (position number) is lower for HR than for SPVS. If it's running in the correct order, when you click the TamperMonkey extension logo, this is what you should see:

For those who are already familiar with TamperMonkey and want to try jumping right in, you can easily install either or both scripts directly from greasyfork.org:

For those unfamiliar with TamperMonkey, it's a very popular userscript manager, available for Chrome, Microsoft Edge, Safari, Opera Next, and Firefox. The scripts can easily be added to your TamperMonkey "Dashboard" as just another script to run, complete with source code as well so you can be quite certain there's no tamper "monkey business" going on! 🙊

TamperMonkey VIDEO HowTo...

If you're new to TamperMonkey, this terrific 2 minute video overview should get you right up to speed:

Finally...

So with that, fellow steemians, I leave this in your capable hands. I welcome you all to share your thoughts and ideas on what I've built and release here, and I hope these scripts serve to further empower you all along this collective journey into the "gift economy" we call STEEMIT. Just remember to stay humble and "keep it real" my friends!

"With great power comes great responsibility", or something like that, so "they" say...

Also just wanted to throw in this last little blurb... In my previous post, I had rudimentally compared the valuation of STEEMIT to FaceBook and SNAP. @knircky just wrote an excellent article that goes much deeper than my short bit towards the end of that post. He compares the valuations of STEEMIT, Facebook, twitter, etc versus active monthly users:

thanks for the kind words @eric-boucher, and now people don't have to wait anymore for 500SP just to access it! of course, I'm quite a bit above that now, yet still loving both scripts myself for the added functionality they provide! :)

I'm kind of blanking on SMG, though (the link just went back to my post). Is that another discord guild? Many of us are already on discord too. Definitely worth stopping by one of these days if you get a chance! :)

ps. dunno about "genius" though, if I start thinking that way I always seem to soon after land right on my head! lol

glad you found it helpful @selfbuiltcamper. you're still a bit small for the slider to help you yet, but the more you understand about STEEMIT, the faster you'll be up to speed with the rest of us! Keep on Steemin'! :)

Thats some awesome work you've done there! I was wondering why I wasn't able to delegate a percentage of my SP to upvotes via a slider. Now I know... Im just shy of 500 SP! But I will check this out in the meantime.

Well @alexpmorris, I was going to check the script out yesterday. But upon importing more steem into my account and powering up, I have noticed that with just 500 SP I can now use the vote slider without the script. So as good as the idea sounds for lower SP accounts, I dont think I'll need it.

None the less, again, very good work and I wish other users all the best!

thanks for the kind words @sreepyeldarb! I'll just add though that even if you already have a 500SP+ slider now (congrats, btw!), you might still want to give it a spin nonetheless, as you may find some of the other features quite useful (and more visually appealing) as well! :)

" While your posts may expire, post comment threads can continue indefinitely! I really started to think about this after HF19, when some comments I had written earned me more in payout than several of my earlier posts combined!",
This part of the post is really valuable, because most of the people dont know about this information, and even i got to know this from your post, excellent informative post for all steemians, thanks a lot sir, you are proving to be a mentor for all of us.

Yes, it's good you caught that and pointed it out. I've said this many times in other posts as well. People really underestimate the value of leaving thoughtful comments. Not only is it a terrific way to interact and "get noticed" by others (IF done properly), but sometimes you may more often than not find some pleasant "gifts" waiting for you as well! :)

This is awesome, especially the monetizing on past posts feature! It's such a great way to help out minnows too who are looking to build up their SP. Thanks for sharing & also for including the gif demonstrations, it really made things so simple & easy to digest :)

thanks @theywillkillyou, and thank you for the randowhale vote too! glad to hear you're also taking advantage of "Hide Resteems" as well. I don't think even I realized how useful and handy these tools would turn out to be! lol

and yeah, as @incrediblesnow mentioned... be aware that randowhale lowered his price to 1 SBD now!

hi @pqlenator, thanks for the kind words, and for the resteem! :) I haven't personally tried it on a Mac, but I don't see why it shouldn't work, especially in Chrome or Firefox. But please let me know either way how it goes!

Congratulations! This post has been upvoted from the communal account, @minnowsupport, by alexpmorris from the Minnow Support Project. It's a witness project run by aggroed, ausbitbank, teamsteem, theprophet0, and someguy123. The goal is to help Steemit grow by supporting Minnows and creating a social network. Please find us in the Peace, Abundance, and Liberty Network (PALnet) Discord Channel. It's a completely public and open space to all members of the Steemit community who voluntarily choose to be there.

If you like what we're doing please upvote this comment so we can continue to build the community account that's supporting all members.

Some nice ideas in there, thanks for sharing your creativity!
I wanted to use JQuery in my find similar posts add-on for Steemit, but didn't find a way to get it working as I can't load external scripts due to Steemit's Browser security policy. I saw you mentioned Jquery conflicts, but how did you use Jquery in the first place? I looked in your resteem code but don't see any Jquery..

thank you @ura-soul! out of all the issues I faced, injecting jquery wasn't one of them. not sure why you're missing it, but jquery's all over the place (starting with the @require line, and all the $() calls are jquery). When I mentioned conflicts, the problem was that the script was always loading before STEEMIT's jquery kicked in, and if "Hide Resteems" loaded after SPVS, it would overwrite the SPVS version which needed to link to jquery-ui. I tried encapsulating, but then (as I had expected) some of the events could no longer access that scope. Maybe I was missing something simple, but ideally I would have liked to use STEEMIT's jquery (tried various @run-at options, but it didn't help).

I haven't tested it on mobile, but there's certainly no reason it shouldn't work if you can install TamperMonkey on a mobile version of Chrome or Firefox if it supports installing the TamperMonkey extension.

If you do decide to give it a go and get it to run successfully, please share your experience!

This makes a lot of sense to me. Which I find incredible but it really does. If you get a comment on any other platform, that sends a signal that the content still has value to someone. Why not?
Restemmed and upvoted. I need to digest this completely.
I know a lot of people including myself as a newbie hold back on creating 'good' long form content until we have a following and resort to short posts because we know they are time limited. This could change that assumption for new users.

my thoughts exactly! I hope more people start realizing this as well. In fact, my understanding of chainbb.com is that it's even designed around the idea of highlighting posts with active recent commenting activity. So you can say this is sort of an extra twist on that idea that seeks to further reward the original author as well!

Hi. I use Microsoft Edge and it doesn't seem to work for that even though I've done what you said and all. It has a little monkey and 1 in the corner, but the slide doesn't ever show up for upvotes. I also tried it on firefox which I don't use at all and I was able to do the slide one time. Maybe it is user error?

there's a comment thread above started by @francisk about that from several months ago regarding Microsoft Edge, and yes, there are apparently some issues using tampermonkey with Edge. Unfortuantely, nothing I could do about that except to recommend using Chrome or Firefox instead.

Hi great post, i actually did as you said here. I have the bar and started to comment old posts, im actually making more money by the reply of the steemers!!!! thanks for the info, its still valid and the slide bar, had to change the value of minvest in order to make it work for me.

Glad it's working well for you, but just be aware, as described in the article, that there is a reason for the minimum value. If you've lowered it, you're much more likely to face the following problem:

(ie. more votes, especially many very small votes) the greater the chance you may be rate-limited for a period of time.

Lol my last reply was for someone else, my mistake.
The reply for: more votes, especially many very small votes) the greater the chance you may be rate-limited for a period of time. is this you are right, i was upvoting with a bot, massive upvotes, more than 40/day. After the slide i decided to put the voting power in 100% and its taking forever to regenerate, now its 50.1% and up and 3 days not making any upvote, just replying old posts.
Results of this strategy? im making more profits for the next days commenting than upvoting or posting new material!!! thanks to you i intend to keep this strategy until i learn and see how the others create quality content so i can make one, hopefully.

I've been asking myself this question but actually this keeps information up-to-date! Noone says you can use your old posts, update them and re-publish them! It takes a while but then the genius of Steemit gets you! It's a paradigm shift.
But I have also some other ideas in store for this. Since I'm also a musician, it can happen that your track is done, it is perfect. Now what? Well, others can resteem or copy it but you could follow the root, ie. the original with something like @Cheetah or Microsofts PhotoDNA for remixes. This could also work very well for video I think!

music, video, and pretty much all "timeless" works of art can potential benefit. I would envision at some point that ongoing revenues could also be redirected back to the original creator as well for including songs, images, etc as a small usage royalty. There are already at least a few initiatives working on such models. The main difference here is that on STEEM, there hasn't really been a "clearer way" to do that without the need to directly "charge" people for it.

A little bit 'late' to the game but isn't the benefit of bittorrent that the more popular a video is the faster every new user gets it? Does IPFS have this too? I mean I was pretty impressed with bitchute which works on webtorrent, but yes someone has to seed it!

IPFS works in a similar way, but no one has really much of a financial incentive to store and stream such content, where even a short video can still require several hundred megabytes to store (not to mention to stream). And just because many people are watching it, doesn't mean they are in turn seeding it and maintaining it for others to view as well.

Thanks for the useful information @alexpmorris!
Being a minnow or less, this helps quite a bit in the search for Steemit good news.
I usually have Steemnow.com open, but will be using steemd.com as well now to gather info, cheers!

Thank you Alex! Do you know if there is a plan or suggestion for groups being implemented anytime in the near future? @woodywood143 and I used to run the only teaching group on Tsū before it closed, teaching how to make fractals.

Thanks Alex, glad to hear it about the community features, I will look into the Discord part of things, that's good, but away from general feed if trying to get new users for a program or art style.
Thanks again for the information!

thank you again @awarenessraiser! Ironically, the people will probably regret it the most... those we've tried to convince to "check it out" but have yet to take the initiative, that is... until everyone else starts talking about it! lol

I found your post very usefull and full of informations as i am a newbie. But the title also says "here comes steemtube" which i really didnt understand. Is there a steem website like youtube? As i want to post videos than just photos or articles? Can you help me here?

you can already embed youtube and vimeo videos into your posts. there are also initiatives such as steemQ by @furion to make a sort of steemit "YouTube". However, monetization is always an issue for such content (and most content, really), since the work isn't suddenly "worthless" after 7 days, just because the post can no longer being upvoted for additional value. This script demonstrates how such content can still continue to be monetized, albeit to a slightly lesser degree, but continually monetized nonetheless.

These are some really needed tools especially the vote slider for >500sp members and a steemit based video platform. By the way we still have to install the extension to use the vote slider, so it's not implemeted inside steemit?

if you have over 500SP you should already have a slider. this enables a slider on STEEMIT.com for those down to 72SP. It also gives people the ability to easily upvote expired posts, as well as declined payout posts now as well, based on finding a suitable comment by the author to upvote instead.

The only extension you need to add is TamperMonkey, since all these scripts works from within TamperMonkey.

For example, less your delegated SP, you should still have around 105 SP, so you don't currently have the slider on STEEMIT. After you install these scripts, you'll have access to a vote slider when you click to upvote!

thanks @hilarski, I've already found it invaluable myself just from the bunch of times I've used it while testing and developing it! :) and that's coming from someone who already has slider access too! I also love the little popups after each vote, but perhaps that's just me. lol

Is Tampermonkey better on Chrome? Does it matter? And does Steemit function better on Chrome? I did have a weird error today on Steemit (using Firefox) telling me one of my comments couldn't upvoted because the account didn't exist. But of course, the account quite clearly did exist.

I tried the scripts in Firefox with TamperMonkey, and they seemed to work well there too. Still could be some glitches here and there, maybe from all the ajax page switching. Did it still happen even after refreshing the page?

btw, some interesting work you're doing there, nice to see you start posting again!

This is one of the rare post here in steemit, it clears many doubts here. I am really happy that now steemit is making progress and users understanding its potential and using their voting power more wisely. I did not know how the expired post has the potential to pay on the active comments. Thanx a lot for clarifying many things.

thank you @rocksg for the kind words! yes, it opens up many new possibilities, and the irony is that in some way, it was practically "staring" us all in the face! I just automated the process a bit to make it a bit easier and more "streamlined". And now people have a bit more incentive to continue "interacting" on older posts as well!

alexpmorris, this little minnow thanks you for this post..I see you have foxfire listed as a browser you could use with the hide resteems function. I had read a post about this extention previously and it only mentioned google chrome and I love my foxfire. I asked the author if it was available for foxfire and was told it wasn't. On rethinking this issue, I decided I didn't want it anyway as I have ran across many great articles that were resteemed that I would not have seen otherwise. I do resteem a lot of posts that I want to go back and reread when I have more time. My only reason for considering it as bullionstakers commented, "It clogs my feed and makes it too hard to find my posts. My question is, is there a link that I could go to to review all my old original posts in chronological order..if not, there needs to be..or should I just tag all my posts with my user name and find them easier.. Also, this platform makes it hard to find all the useful links that people like me would find useful instead of having to search posts for them? Makes it a bit frustrating for a busy person like myself trying to learn all the ins and outs..I use to be a training technician and was always looking to find simpler more efficient ways of doing things. This platform is complicated enough for me, I can only imagine how frustrated other newbies feel trying to find their way around. Just too time consuming. Any suggestions? Actually, any solutions??

it sounds like you're talking about a different version, because I wrote this myself and it always worked with firefox. also, it doesn't remove your resteems, it merely allows you to toggle them on and off so you can see feeds with or without the resteems. As such, it also does exactly what you're asking about. When you toggle off your resteems on your blog page, you'll be left with all your own posts in reverse chronological order (from newest to oldest).

In your case however, you may need to first scroll down a bit more before hiding resteems, because you have so many there may not be enough posts left (if any) to trigger an ajax request for more entries!

Thank you very much for making the post payout monetizer!!!
Can you please tell me how much it will payout and how long it will take to get the payout after I got a comment on a older post? I have set up the post payout monetizer a friend gave me a comment on my old post but I didn't got any payout and it is 8 days ago when my friend made the comment. Thanks and have a nice day.

This is an interesting article for me. I've been looking for information like this for a long time, especially on how to increase upvote values ​​in posts. I've read some articles, but until now I still do not understand how it works.

@alexpmorris
After trying to get your minnow slider to work for the last 6 or 8 hours.
I have to stop. I have everything up. Even your script is showing as it should be according to your photos. The Tampermonkey shows everything you show on mine as well.
I have both Chrome and Microsoft Edge. I tried both. Nothing. Frustrating.
Is this just for new posts only? Or for the reply posts as well?
One more question. Should the "slider" appear first or after clicking the upvote button?

Amazing. After trying about 8 hours. The button finally turned a little yellow on the upvote. And there it was. Set at 100%
I don't know exactly yet what I did. But I think I know. I'll soon find out. On Chrome.

One more question. Should the Microsoft Edge show on the upvote button a tinge of yellow if your slider is working properly?
The one that I have working now. Chrome. It has a little yellow tinge on the upvote button with your slider.
I still have white showing on my Microsoft Edge browser upvote button. Is it different than Chrome?

Thank you, thank you. For now at least. It looks beautiful. On the Chrome browser.

I just tried it in TamperMonkey on Microsoft Edge, and while everything does appear to load correctly, just as you said, for whatever reason nothing happens. I don't even think it's an issue with my scripts, because I tried "debug" mode, and unlike in chrome, I was never brought to the beginning of the script. In addition, I added some log statements into the script literally on the first line, and even those didn't appear to execute.

So, while TamperMonkey on Edge appears to indicate the scripts are running, it seems they're not even really started. Very strange. Really nothing else I can do at this point. I think TM on Edge is relatively new, so quite possible there's at least a few glitches they have yet to work out.

Glad you have it running well on Chrome though! That's where most people tend to be using it, along with a few on Firefox as well.

@alexpmorris
Thank you for your time to help me to understand. I just wanted to know that I wasn't leaving something out or just didn't know what to do.
Thank you for your reply and comment. It means a lot to me. I tried many hours before I was able to get Chrome to work. That was my fault, I am sure.
I also appreciate your work for us. I can now use the Chrome browser for my upvotes if I want to. Thank you again.

Not sure why you had problems getting it to run in Chrome though, unless perhaps you had reversed the order of the scripts. Usually in Chrome it tends to work right away once you refresh the page. Regardless, glad you finally got it working! :)

did you make sure "Hide Resteems" is running first (notice in the image it should be above Steemit Post Vote)? if so, does it work if you disable "Hide Resteems"? Also, can you confirm you're running the latest version of Post Vote v0.11, and which browser you're using?

and I just installed this and did a check for updates so I assume I am on the latest version
I am using Google Chrome as the Browser and its now working just did a test here, thank you so much this is excellent appreciate your efforts on this