But Ubisoft got rid of their draconian DRM (and saw over 50% spike in digital sales). And CliffyB told indie developers to make games exclusively for the PC - and to never jump to consoles for their cutthroat deals.

You realise you can't win with these people right? In the face of logic, they will cling to their one bit of "proof" (gears ports) and that means you are wrong.

(Full Context Quote)Sorry, I don't cherry pick reasons to hate CliffyB. That would be like ignoring most of Shigeru Miyamoto's career to hate on him for Wii Music and Wii Fit.

I'm looking at Cliify B's entire career. Most of it is on the PC, even Bulletstorm. And Most of his work is great. I'm not like a lot of people on this site who chose to hate him solely based on Gears of War. That's just petty.

Wow, way to attack the first sentence of the quote and nothing else. Are you even trying to debate anything here?

Wow, way to attack the first sentence of the quote and nothing else. Are you even trying to debate anything here?

The full context changes nothing. You're still clearly cherry-picking and whitewashing his career. And that's fine. I can't change your mind. But the problem as presented was that you had tried to counter a notion by giving a single, dated example. Then, even as you said it (no matter how bolded you claim you're "looking at his whole career"), you are still producing cherry-picked responses.

Also, it was not an attack. I don't know your temperament here, but I was merely addressing a disingenuous notion. If you wish to address this more thoroughly, that's fine; I'm not all that concerned one way or another. That's not to say I believe you are wrong, but an actual argument would neither ruin my day nor hurt my feelings any. In fact, I would find a better defined and structured argument on the Escapist to be refreshing.

Wow, way to attack the first sentence of the quote and nothing else. Are you even trying to debate anything here?

The full context changes nothing. You're still clearly cherry-picking and whitewashing his career.

You've proven this how? You haven even provived any reason as to why you think his career is a bad one. You've just disagreed with me and attacked me with worthless points. Tell me specifically why Cliffy's career was bad for video games.

Come on now, actually debate for realsies.

Looking at his entire career, he's done more good than bad. And the bad that he done is really just a bunch of people who nit pick a few issues out of what was a 20 year career.

Edit: Considering you started this little debate here with this vague statement: