Message #107328, posted by flibble at 11:12, 15/5/2008, in reply to message #107322

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Things you still find your PC useful for:

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too obvious?

1) playing games2) watched videos3) company admin tasks (simple WP)4) running multiple OSes5) having multiple video outs so I can drive my CRT projector6) SPDIF Dolby digital to my amp7) Writing music with modern VSTs and trackers, and MIDI over USB. processing RAW pictures from my cameras, quickly9) program development with sane dev tools and debuggers10) Marking up lego models in Leocad

I'm sure there's lots more, but you get the idea.

Computing, when the apps are good the OS really doesn't matter very much.

Message #107333, posted by ksattic at 20:48, 15/5/2008, in reply to message #107328

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Computing, when the apps are good the OS really doesn't matter very much.

It's amazing how people do a 180 when they find another platform they like. I used to hate Macs, and now I love them.

You are right, it doesn't matter what platform you use as long as the apps are good.

RISC OS hardware hasn't been updated since 2002 and software development has stagnated. However, I *still* can't find a better text editor than Zap, nor can I get on with any vector drawing package other than Draw.

Message #107334, posted by ksattic at 20:50, 15/5/2008, in reply to message #107331

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Computing, when the apps are good the OS really doesn't matter very much.

I half agree with you.

But for Web Development I refuse to downgrade to an OS thats had 23 years to implement/steal some form of a decent drag and drop system and hasn't yet managed to do so.

OK, I half retract what I said above as I do agree with you. There are things that bug the hell out of me in Windows and OS X that would make RISC OS the ideal computing environment if only it could do <insert favourite image or video processing task here>.

I still genuinely fail to see how ex-RISC OS users can feel productive using Windows-based WP tools. I certainly couldn't envisage running my business on Windows apps. I guess it would be different if I was doing more on the pre-press side of things with CMYK and colour seps, but for everything else, RISC OS is infinately more productive. I keep asking Windows users to do stuff that I take for granted on RISC OS, and whilst it can be done, it is often laborious.

Now, I do agree with peter on 1, 2, 4 and 6. Gaming and media is still the domain of Windows, but for the rest of the time, RISC OS is still best for me.

Of course, I think it should be horses for courses. Use RISC OS for things that RISC OS is good at, and use Windows for things it is good at. Then everything's peachy....

I keep asking Windows users to do stuff that I take for granted on RISC OS

What, like selecting more than one menu item at a time after navigating through a million submenus to reach the place you wanted, because in Windows, to select three menu items, you have to go through the entire menu tree three times. Grrr.

Message #107431, posted by adamr at 19:31, 21/5/2008, in reply to message #107337

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I finally came across this functionality in Windows!- Use XP and Word 2002- Select some text- Press ctrl-C- Select some more text- Press ctrl-C again- Get annoyed by the irritating "side-barry" thing which pops up on the right and takes up half your screen- Click on the "Options" button/drop-down-menu/widget/don't-know-what-it-actually-is icon at the bottom right- Click on one of the four options- Click on a different one of the four optionsHey presto!

Message #107453, posted by adamr at 22:18, 22/5/2008, in reply to message #107438

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Uh... so you discovered that you can copy text, click on options, and get annoyed by "features", in Windows? Welcome to 1995!

Uh... no. I was replying directly to your post (though I guess the threading isn't very obvious in these forums ) about ticking menu options. The point was that this functionality has found its way into Windows.

So if it's limited to a single menu in one single program's "annoying side-bar" that many people will instantly close anyway, it's not really of much use. I'd rather it was closely integrated into the OS. Occasionally you see it on third-party apps, but not so often - the places where you could really use that sort of functionality are governed by the core UI interface, which just doesn't have it (and has probably been coded by monkeys who have never heard of such a thing).

Message #107458, posted by Monty at 00:31, 23/5/2008, in reply to message #107349

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In reply to Paul:

Windows is good at having all the software. It's got many times more than Mac OS or Linux. Its a pity an unintuitive, unlikeable OS won it all, but it did.

As far as games go, I'm as fanatically PC as you are Risc OS for everything else. Can't stand those consoles. Curiously though, Spheres of Chaos looks that bit prettier on Risc OS, especially in the fluid mode.