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7 Hours Ago 08:56 AM

Don0190

Re: Liveaborders that never leave the slip? I don't get it. Help!

My boat hasn't left the parking lot in 4 months and I expect it to not do so this month elither

12 Hours Ago 03:55 AM

captain jack

Re: Liveaborders that never leave the slip? I don't get it. Help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by miatapaul

Just reminds me of Harry Chapin's song Taxi;

maybe i always misinterpreted that song but, i always took it for a song about the regret for missed opportunities. a regret the 'main character' tries to pretend isn't there...very appropriate for a thread about sailboats that never get sailed.

16 Hours Ago 11:54 PM

T37Chef

Re: Liveaborders that never leave the slip? I don't get it. Help!

Ice!!!

16 Hours Ago 11:46 PM

miatapaul

Re: Liveaborders that never leave the slip? I don't get it. Help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain jack

D i just always wanted to soar free like a bird. no motor. and that's what i do; only, on water instead of in the air.

Just reminds me of Harry Chapin's song Taxi;

Quote:

And here, she's acting happy
Inside her handsome home
And me, I'm flying in my taxi
Taking tips, and getting stoned
I go flying so high, when I'm stoned

1 Day Ago 10:58 AM

hellsop

Re: Liveaborders that never leave the slip? I don't get it. Help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 34crealock

Same here Jack, I have ridden motorcycles for 50 years and been all over the country but on a nice summer day I might rather sail. It is a good problem to have and at my age I had better start cruising before I get too damn old. There is this thing about airplanes, motorcycles and sailboats. I guess they tweek our need for freedom and immersion in natures powers.

Used to be for cars as well, back when auto clubs had meetings instead of just providing breakdown insurance. Being a "motorist" then meant something, and it was adventure in the same kind of way. Carving your own path across the country, daring to go where no train could take someone, three times as fast as a good horse over a day's journey. But after 50 years of that, then many, most and finally nearly everybody needed to have a car, and the joy and specialness went away.

1 Day Ago 02:39 AM

captain jack

Re: Liveaborders that never leave the slip? I don't get it. Help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 34crealock

Same here Jack, I have ridden motorcycles for 50 years and been all over the country but on a nice summer day I might rather sail. It is a good problem to have and at my age I had better start cruising before I get too damn old. There is this thing about airplanes, motorcycles and sailboats. I guess they tweek our need for freedom and immersion in natures powers.

very true. although i don't know about airplanes, personally. i always wanted to fly a sail plane. i tried to talk my dad into letting me get my sail plane license when i was a kid. if i remember correctly, you can get those when you are 14....or could. but, we were pretty poor, so, ithat wasn't happening. after i left home, my parents' finances improved greatly but, alas, i still have plenty of poor left . maybe someday. i wasn't as interested in powered flight. not that i couldn't draw diagrams of ram jet and turbo jet engines and explain how they worked by the time i was in third grade, mind you! you have to love encyclopedias. i just always wanted to soar free like a bird. no motor. and that's what i do; only, on water instead of in the air.

1 Day Ago 07:53 PM

34crealock

Re: Liveaborders that never leave the slip? I don't get it. Help!

Same here Jack, I have ridden motorcycles for 50 years and been all over the country but on a nice summer day I might rather sail. It is a good problem to have and at my age I had better start cruising before I get too damn old. There is this thing about airplanes, motorcycles and sailboats. I guess they tweek our need for freedom and immersion in natures powers.

1 Day Ago 07:26 PM

captain jack

Re: Liveaborders that never leave the slip? I don't get it. Help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 34crealock

A cruising friend of mine who has 10 s of thousands of miles just packed it in this year. There is no shame in not going and none in giving up the cruising life. You will know when you want to go and maybe that is not now or ever.

funny about that. i am a biker as well as a sailor. well....at least i have been. i have ridden all of my life. all year long and in all kinds of weather. so many miles. now, i am in a full time sailboat mode. it's all i think of. it's all i want to do. a big part of me feels like i have betrayed something because, right now, i don't really care if i ride and i don't look to the future with any concern for motorcycles. i am sure that will change, in it's time. it's a cyclical thing. but, i can see what you are saying.

1 Day Ago 07:20 PM

captain jack

Re: Liveaborders that never leave the slip? I don't get it. Help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SVAuspicious

I live aboard. Although I haven't been sailing much on my boat this summer (weekends have been full racing OPB and I work during the week), I keep everything ready for sailing. I maintain a "15 minute rule:" it shouldn't take more than 15 minutes from decision to leaving the dock. At the moment it's probably 25 minutes due to sun awnings ... have to do something about that.

i think that's the problem with some people. the harder it is to get your boat ready to sail, the less likely you are to sail it. i can attest to that from small boat sailing.

my 10 foot dinghy is always in the back of my truck (unless the bay is frozen over). it takes me 15 minutes to set up and another 15 to tear down and pack it back up. i sail it everytime i have two or more hours free.

i have rn into guys that had driven to the water just to look at it. they'd see me on my little boat and say," that's what i need to get!" they have bigger boats that they have to tow to the water, which is more bother than 'car topping'. their boats are harder to set up...often it takes the help of another person to set up. if you have to depend on other people to help you sail, it can keep you from sailing.

even for me, before i bought the cal 27 that i am refitting, i had my dinghy and a holiday 20. the 20 has to be towed. i need help stepping the mast because i can't hold it up and hook up the jib stay at the same time. i don't need help sailing it. but, it's not easy finding someone to go with you to the water to hook up your jib stay unless they are going sailing with you.

i love the holiday. great boat. i love the dinghy. also a great boat. the holiday is far more comfortable to sail. this is especially true as i get older. i have injured both knees, at different times, at work. they don't like being cramped up as i sit on the cockpit sole for 8 hours, or so, as i sail my dinghy as far as i can get, and back, before sundown. even so, which boat do you think i have sailed the most over the last 18 years?

the dinghy, of course.

that was one of the many reasons i bought the cal, when i saw it for sale at a dirt cheap price. it wll be on the water, mast stepped, sails on the spars, ready to go at all times. just cast off and away you go.

that's also why i am setting it up to be as easy to solo sail as i can.

i think that one reason people buy boats they never sail (live aboard or otherwise) is because they buy boats that are too hard (or too big) for them to sail without help (and they don't have crew that is all that dedicated or as available) or too complex to just cast off and go. i know the racing crowd loves to add more complexity , and that's just fine for them, but, for anyone who just wants to go sailing, simplicity is best....in my opinion.

i also know a big boat can be nice and comfortable but a smaller, more manageable boat is more likely to get sailed.

1 Day Ago 07:13 PM

34crealock

Re: Liveaborders that never leave the slip? I don't get it. Help!

A cruising friend of mine who has 10 s of thousands of miles just packed it in this year. There is no shame in not going and none in giving up the cruising life. You will know when you want to go and maybe that is not now or ever.

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