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First date: A job interview in which a slot-c tries to determine a man's financial suitability in relation to its desire for children.
Oxytocin, more dangerous than heroin.
I am not going to sacrifice my freedom and wealth for your ideals.
If she isn't fucking you like a porn star she is fucking someone else like one.

Women, they're just a bag of bricks. All you gotta do is set them down. - Primus Milton

Re: Redpill Women (????)

Iīm suspicious.

To me it seems that some women became aware of the Red Pill but I doubt that many of them have good intentions. Maybe they understood that some men arenīt so stupid anymore and are able to see reality and now they started to use the red pill knowledge to manipulate men. I just glanced at some postings on that website but I have the feeling that many women there are now aware that men know about the cock carousell and they just try to hide that better from them.

I doubt that most of the women who write there have really overcome their nature.

Re: Redpill Women (????)

Originally Posted by GabrielKnight

Iīm suspicious.

To me it seems that some women became aware of the Red Pill but I doubt that many of them have good intentions. Maybe they understood that some men arenīt so stupid anymore and are able to see reality and now they started to use the red pill knowledge to manipulate men. I just glanced at some postings on that website but I have the feeling that many women there are now aware that men know about the cock carousell and they just try to hide that better from them.

I doubt that most of the women who write there have really overcome their nature.

We know for a fact women cannot overcome their nature, but they can curb or minimise that. Christianity was successful in doing so until a few decades ago, now this has become something that can be done only on an individual or a small group basis.

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Saw a couple red flags there. Red Pill to these women also apparently includes traditionalist values, according to the right hand margin. And then there are threads like this: 18, very confused? I'd love to have a family and stay at home, but I know I need an education? Help? : RedPillWomen that I found after mere seconds of perusing the site. Sorry, cupcake. That stay at home mom ship sailed a long time ago. To their credit, I didn't see anyone advise her to have an 'oops' pregnancy. Maybe they did, though, I certainly didn't read all of it. Ah, well. Live and let die, as I always say.

Re: Redpill Women (????)

Originally Posted by GabrielKnight

I doubt that most of the women who write there have really overcome their nature.

Even cognitive awareness of one's nature is a plus. How many hamsters do you know out of the population that are even aware of their own nature? I'm not saying I trust them [far from it], but an interaction with a XX that knows her nature and takes steps to avoid the insanity that they normally manifest might (MIGHT) be refreshing.

First date: A job interview in which a slot-c tries to determine a man's financial suitability in relation to its desire for children.
Oxytocin, more dangerous than heroin.
I am not going to sacrifice my freedom and wealth for your ideals.
If she isn't fucking you like a porn star she is fucking someone else like one.

Women, they're just a bag of bricks. All you gotta do is set them down. - Primus Milton

Pretty much tells you everything you need to know. Fact is it is hard enough for men to GTOW in the current climate. Imagine being a woman trying to go against the tide. At least we have the advantage of being naturally inclined to seek truth and to forge our own paths as men, to feel revulsion at the chaotic free for all of this current culture. Women thrive on it, even if they end up losers in the long game and rationally understand this. If short term decision making without consequences is merely possible at all - let alone the agenda of the day - women will take advantage of it, whether consciously or not. The only 'rationality' ALL women are universally and consistently capable of is post-hoc rationalisation.

Re: Redpill Women (????)

Originally Posted by Primus_Pilus

Even cognitive awareness of one's nature is a plus. How many hamsters do you know out of the population that are even aware of their own nature? I'm not saying I trust them [far from it], but an interaction with a XX that knows her nature and takes steps to avoid the insanity that they normally manifest might (MIGHT) be refreshing.

I view this like I would a three time ex con who swears this time in front of a judge hell live right this time. Women by nature adapt to their environment .In the ancient Greek war with Persia, the leader of the Persian navy flew the flag of an enemy ship to avoid getting blasted -and then told her patron Xerxes it was a plan to engineer discord in the Greek ranks.

Hehe.Anyone want to follow Xerxes' noble lead and trust a womans word?

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After some looking around on that reddit thing, I like the awareness and tolerance of the red pill ideas. There also seem to be a few women there who don't like the blue pill men due to their unreformed beliefs on women.

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I think RPW is legit. I see comments like this:

I think a good way to control your words is to consider these things before saying anything:

-Is it true?

-Is it necessary?

-Is it kind? (Note on this one I don't mean you can't ever say anything remotely negative, but you can at least phrase things in a way that shows understanding, compassion, a willingness to listen, whatever... hopefully you get what I mean because I can't think of the right word)

If it doesn't meet those 3 criteria, don't say it.

Just as men have been 'drugged' by society and memories of how to be masculine erased from their memory banks, women too are reaching back into the older truths about their gender should act. We are all 'remembering' the truth of traditional gender roles, despite the fact our demented elite attempts to lead us into conflict with one another. It is possible for men and women to live in peace, but it is not possible for the man to cope with the modern woman, if she is under the sway of unrestrained hypergamy. If a growing number of women commit to RP, and a growing number of men select for these qualities, that would be an important shift. Traditionalism may have legs even if the church does not.

Some of you may be wondering -- who is this Jagrmeister guy? Have a look at some of my posts from MGTOW Forums--> Jagr Archive (collection of my articles)

Re: Redpill Women (????)

Another group of women like WAF who realize they can get more free shit from guys by playing nicer than balls to the wall feminists. I'm not buying it but at least there is one more target out there now to occupy feminist's time.

Re: Redpill Women (????)

Originally Posted by Ivan Drago

Another group of women like WAF who realize they can get more free shit from guys by playing nicer than balls to the wall feminists. I'm not buying it but at least there is one more target out there now to occupy feminist's time.

They're still better than the feminists who call Red Pills pigs for simply existing.

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Originally Posted by I_Jedi

They're still better than the feminists who call Red Pills pigs for simply existing.

Not to be a downer but I am not completely sure about that. The combination of instant communication over the internet and over the top feminism serves a purpose as it exposes female's true nature to the world. (hopefully for all time) The caricature they have become opens more eyes to the reality of the situation. I don't care if a feminist calls me a pig. However, I do care about interacting with a "red pill" woman who knows how to sugar coat my servitude.

I read through a bit of RPW this morning and I am not seeing anything that sparks my interest, just a lot of parroting of words and phrases men want to hear. I just see a handful of women talking about more efficient ways of manipulating men in to giving them more things. It may be conscious or subconscious, but it's all the same thing when you get down to it "Meeeeeee, Meeeeee, MEEEEEEEEE!!!!"

One thread talks about how a woman is trying to figure out how to motivate her husband so he can get a higher paying job, bigger house etc. Not one mention of the husband maybe not wanting a bigger house or useless stuff, just "Meeeee, Meeeeee, MEEEEEEE!!!!" There was some nice shaming language on one thread referring to the husband as a "loser" for not producing the bigger and better things for her.

Until I see them actually "doing" something like working to get gov't and courts out of marriage, I am not interested. I am just seeing a lot of women who know they have a good thing going and want to keep sucking it for all it's worth.

I see a relationship with a woman like these as a very blue pill "a servant who doesn't know he is a servant is a more productive servant" type of situation.

Of course, I could be wrong though. Probably not, but possibly... meh probably not

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Originally Posted by Ivan Drago

Not to be a downer but I am not completely sure about that. The combination of instant communication over the internet and over the top feminism serves a purpose as it exposes female's true nature to the world. (hopefully for all time) The caricature they have become opens more eyes to the reality of the situation. I don't care if a feminist calls me a pig. However, I do care about interacting with a "red pill" woman who knows how to sugar coat my servitude.

I read through a bit of RPW this morning and I am not seeing anything that sparks my interest, just a lot of parroting of words and phrases men want to hear. I just see a handful of women talking about more efficient ways of manipulating men in to giving them more things. It may be conscious or subconscious, but it's all the same thing when you get down to it "Meeeeeee, Meeeeee, MEEEEEEEEE!!!!"

One thread talks about how a woman is trying to figure out how to motivate her husband so he can get a higher paying job, bigger house etc. Not one mention of the husband maybe not wanting a bigger house or useless stuff, just "Meeeee, Meeeeee, MEEEEEEE!!!!" There was some nice shaming language on one thread referring to the husband as a "loser" for not producing the bigger and better things for her.

Until I see them actually "doing" something like working to get gov't and courts out of marriage, I am not interested. I am just seeing a lot of women who know they have a good thing going and want to keep sucking it for all it's worth.

I see a relationship with a woman like these as a very blue pill "a servant who doesn't know he is a servant is a more productive servant" type of situation.

Of course, I could be wrong though. Probably not, but possibly... meh probably not

I'd say you have a good possibility of being right. Just as Mr Wombat said, "Not all the chambers in that revolver are loaded, either."

Great - there are women who are turning away from Femmunism, there are women who want to marry and have children and play June Cleaver, there are women who want to turn the clock back to Marriage 1.0 - but I'm sorry, ladies, there's no easy, quick way to repair what your mothers and grandmothers have smashed, have destroyed, have bulldozed out of the way to build their modern Cathedral of Hate against the Masculine Gender. It has come to this point, that men are turning back from the strongest urge a man has, this side of personal survival - the urge to mate, to procreate, to have a family with you - because our trust has been shredded, our honor has been scorned (or used against us to trap us), the nobility we feel at the proud title of Father has been trashed, and we see too clearly that your sisters and mothers view us as no more than plow-horses, walking wallets, beasts of economic burden.

No protestations of NAWALT, no promises of fidelity, no "sacred vows" on the part of these WAFs, these Red Pill Women, can change the past. They don't change the laws. They don't change the courts. They don't change Divorce Corp. They don't change the fact that stepping up to the altar, for a man, is like betting your life, your fortunes, your sacred honor, and your future on one spin of the roulette-wheel ... Red or Black? And you won't find out you bet wrong until years, maybe decades, later - when she decides "she's no longer in love with you," pulls the plug, and calls the Blue Knights to start the process of tearing your life apart. Fifty-fifty, guys; three-bullet Russian Roulette; Red or Black.

I hope there will be a change, but Feminism and its White-Knight enablers have spent the last fifty years smashing and destroying the fabric of Society, the foundations of the marriage contract, the culture that supported and fostered marriage and family, till we've gotten to where we are today. Even if we started now - by some mythical Anti-Feminist Revolution that swept them from power and brought back Equalism, Responsibility, Accountability, and Consequences for Actions as the new ideals - I'm afraid it would take another fifty years to move Society back to the point where you could exchange vows of "Till Death Do Us Part" with a woman, and you could expect her to honor them, and to put as much love and thought and effort and care into the marriage as you would.

... Now, admittedly, I have friends who have gotten married, and stayed married, who have raised smart and capable children and who have recognized that love in marriage is far, far more than rumpy-humpy bedroom athletics. I take them as evidence that you can make marriage work - but I also know that they are both committed to each other and to their children, that they're wise enough not to work at cross-purposes, and they are more than lovers - they are best friends and favorite companions, and they have grown close rather than growing apart. They are the exception, in this society, where once that was the rule.

I enjoy hearing what the WAFs, the RPWs, have to say, and it's a good thing to hear women speaking out against Feminism and against the warped, cracked cultural values that rule the word today. But we all know this basic truth:

Don't pay attention to what they say. Pay attention to what they do.

"The Red Pill is the start of the journey, not the end." - Chairborne

"Our most dangerous enemies are men who have no loyalty to men." - William Noy

Re: Redpill Women (????)

Originally Posted by BeijaFlor

... Now, admittedly, I have friends who have gotten married, and stayed married, who have raised smart and capable children and who have recognized that love in marriage is far, far more than rumpy-humpy bedroom athletics. I take them as evidence that you can make marriage work - but I also know that they are both committed to each other and to their children, that they're wise enough not to work at cross-purposes, and they are more than lovers - they are best friends and favorite companions, and they have grown close rather than growing apart. They are the exception, in this society, where once that was the rule.

Very well spoken post, thank you.

I have witnessed this as well but I am still skeptical. I have a handful of friends and family members who display the "perfect marriage 1.0" facade but in all of those situations the man is working his fingers to the bone and going in to massive debt so the woman can put on a "I am so blessed" show on facebook. The men are forbidden to spend time with "his" friends, he needs to spend time with "our" friends (her friends) Many cannot even spend time with his family. All holidays involve "our" family (her family) All the men in these situations are 100% BP beat down mules talking themselves in to how happy they are transferring their labor to their master. I wonder how many of these happy relationships would last if the man got injured and couldn't produce or if he decided to sell the $400,000 home, get rid of his leased cars and move out of the burbs in to an older, smaller house.

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Originally Posted by Ivan Drago

Very well spoken post, thank you.

I have witnessed this as well but I am still skeptical. I have a handful of friends and family members who display the "perfect marriage 1.0" facade but in all of those situations the man is working his fingers to the bone and going in to massive debt so the woman can put on a "I am so blessed" show on facebook. The men are forbidden to spend time with "his" friends, he needs to spend time with "our" friends (her friends) Many cannot even spend time with his family. All holidays involve "our" family (her family) All the men in these situations are 100% BP beat down mules talking themselves in to how happy they are transferring their labor to their master. I wonder how many of these happy relationships would last if the man got injured and couldn't produce or if he decided to sell the $400,000 home, get rid of his leased cars and move out of the burbs in to an older, smaller house.

Fuck Marriage 1.0, it's a BP fantasy guys need to let go of.

Between us - for us, the MGTOW - ABSOLUTELY.

Men will get involved with marriage, anyway, despite our judgment. There are sufficient "good (sounding) reasons" for them ... but not for me. If I'd lived my adult life with a wife, we'd raised kids and started getting grandkids, and we'd grown together into each other's "other half," I doubt if I would question the value of my marriage with her - and if she died, I would probably "feel like half of me died," and very likely I'd go looking for a replacement. (That very thing happened, from the other side around, with my dear-departed Mom's last best friend. Jake was an old friend of Pat's, from way back - when his wife died, he spent an appropriate time mourning, then he came courting. He was 72, she was 63 - they've been married 15 years now, God bless them.)

Most of us here, though, who have been married, have since been divorced, and they got court-raped, maybe repeatedly, in the process. Those of us who are single, and I count myself in this number, are WELL ADVISED to heed the warnings of their harsh experience. The only sure way to avoid a bitter, ass-fucking divorce is to never get married in the first place - and follow the "three rules of MGTOW:"

Do not marry
Do not cohabitate
Do not procreate

"The Red Pill is the start of the journey, not the end." - Chairborne

"Our most dangerous enemies are men who have no loyalty to men." - William Noy