On the website of Andrew Breitbart, who wasn't always like this, this item today:

Earlier this morning, James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas released a new video that sheds light on the way the New York Times promotes its favored candidates and causes, from Barack Obama to Occupy Wall Street.

Veritas, my ass. Their video is above, and the rest of the mess is here. Rosen says, "They tried to entrap us." He tells me they'll respond shortly.

So, any of OWS who dressed up as a phone repair man, entered a Republican’s congressman’s office and proceeded to tap a phone line would get only one night in jail, a $15oo fine and be placed on double secret probation for three years? We know charges were dropped, the fact they were shows the system is broken. He belongs to a long line of privileged Republican Ratfuckers who believe the law is for other people.

O’Keefe avoided jail time, yeah, but he is under house arrest — his trip to NYC could violate the terms of his parole, since he is supposed to notify the authorities any time he leaves his home state of New Jersey. So this little stunt could cost him big-time.

I won’t go so far as to actively wish him ill; but if he does end up busting rocks in Leavenworth over this, I’m going to say it’s no great loss to our free society.

The comments on how the NYT should/does cover stories certainly wasn’t flattering about journalism. These two guys were clearly giving their opinion on why they thought the NYT covers stories as it does (and thus are quite possibly wrong) but the fact they are apparently teaching journalism in such a way is discouraging.

As for the persons O’Keefe and Breitbart: most people don’t care who they are. Most people won’t care about this story. It won’t impact any election. This is political minutae that gets internet folks all worked up. It encourages people to hate the most minor of characters on the political battlefield.

For any of us who happen to continue following this story (let’s be honest, very very few of us will), we’ll see how Rosen responds.

NYT pushing for Obama: sure. NYT pushing for OWS: harder to swallow. If anything, they’re economically incentivized to *not* support OWS. Their ownership is firmly in the 1%. The wealthiest man in the world even owns a 6.4% stake in the paper.

I think the far-left does a much better job of criticizing NYT than the far-right.

O’Keefe and Breitbart realize one important thing: it doesn’t matter how honest or dishonest their own reporting is, it doesn’t matter that they edit the tapes to imply something other than what is actually being said, the end result is they will get publicity, and the truth of what was actually said will be lost. To this day most people who know of the original O’Keefe “sting” with Acorn don’t know that the unedited tapes show that the Acorn volunteers were often humoring him or in fact tried to get him removed from their offices either because they realized he was a crank (really? that ridiculous pimp outfit?) or because they thought he might have been telling the truth (in some cases they actually called the police.)

As for this video– there is a certain implication that Rosen is somehow revealing actual NYT policy, when he is just a professor talking about the media as a whole (let’s see O’Keefe delve into Fox News policy, or Rosen’s thoughts about Fox News, which would be equally as damning if he were revealing actual company policy .) In fact his use of the word “elite” is more a tongue in cheek reference to how the right likes to portray the media than any kind of serious admission that he IS one of the elites (except, as he says, because he and the journalism students actually look at the whole picture, unlike most Americans), but that won’t matter to the loyal Fox News minions who will point and say “SEE SEE?! MEDIA ELITES!!”

It’s a 9-minute video. Most people wouldn’t watch the whole thing if it were run on prime-time Fox News. (Not to imply that there is an actual prime time for Fox News.)

The reason for doing the video is to give Breitbart and his allies something to point to and make accusations about, whatever they are. The accusations don’t have to be borne out in the video, because most people won’t watch it.

O’Queef and Sightfart are odious creatures. I am NO great fan of the NYT (turned into a decent restaurant and culture guide with occasional news years ago) or Clay for that matter (has lots of good points but the ones that are off are WAY WAY off), but I would still love to see a real-live cagematch between the two teams.

Everybody knows the NYT is liberally-biased. Everybody knows that all journalistic entities pick and choose which stories to run for political reasons. When conservatives call the NYT “elitist” it’s not news, but when the NYT calls itself “elitist” it’s suddenly damning? I don’t get it. Where’s the story here?

Am I understanding this right, James O’Keefe is trying to imply that only Politicians should have views & opinions on politics, politicians and the news, anyone who reports or teaches how to be an effective reporter should have no opinions, no views no experiences in the real world to bring to their teaching/reporting.
Just wanting to check because I seriously think there are parts of American society that are really broken, and the one that I see more and more from way over here in the UK is the denial of the existence of differing opinions, I’m really perturbed that a supposedly democratic society finds it difficult to handle opinions?
Seriously speaking a society is broken when peoples opinions have no value because they don’t share an agreed, (agreed by some arbitrary people who in school would’ve been called bullies) , world view that precludes any independent free thinking.
And sadly that culture of criticising critical thinking is appearing here in the UK and many other so called democracies who fear a questioning, critical population may judge poorly the behaviour of those in power and how they were caught asleep at the controls of their economies after letting industry & financial markets dictate economic policy and not our elected representatives who we voted to look after our best interests and those of our families & children and their children, you know the whole looking at our respective nations long term welfare. And just to be clear I use the term nation to mean the people who live, breath, eat, sleep and vote in our countries!

The issue of the video is that the NYTimes is biased toward the Left of American politics – which they are – and everyone knows it. Rosen thinks they should be more honest about it – which the should be.

It is also apparently bad journalism to look for a way to air your opinion that doesn’t immediately betray personal bias, while it is good journalism to sneak into a classroom, secretly videotape someone, edit it to make it as damning as possible (not very damning here, just a class on how media works), and then use it to air your own grievances with a third party (NYT) that was essentially uninvolved in the conversation.

probably O’Keefe just doesn’t know how to set the time on his camcorder… but if you’re doing “investigative journalism” don’t you think it’s to your credit to have your “evidence” correctly time stamped??