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No person may serve more than 3 consecutive 2 year terms in the House of Representing nor more than 2 consecutive 4 year terms in the Senate nor more than 16 years total.

The Office of the Vice President shall be the person that is first runner-up in the Presidential general election.

Any time a sitting House or Senate member spends campaigning shall be deducted from their pay.

House and Senate members shall be allowed 1 week paid vacation per calender quarter. Any time spent outside out Washington or their represented area shall not be compensated unless approved by their electorate.

House and Senate members shall only be reimbursed for expenses to the extent that ordinary citizens are allowed to deduct similar expenses on their taxes.

The salary cap (including taxes, benefits and other mandated cost basis adjustments) for Senate and House member's staff shall not exceed 4 times the W2 wages of the member. Additional staff may be allowed, but at the member's expense and is not deductible in any manner and shall be considered personal employees of the member and the employing member is responsible for payment of all FICA, FUTA, Worker's Comp, Health Insurance, and retirement benefits, also non-deductible. Any person employed in such a manner will not be considered a Federal employee in any way, shape, manner or form.

I asked everyone I knew that I thought was going to vote for Barry..."Doesn't exempting himself from Barrycare (the single greatest accomplishment of his presidency, in his mind) send up any kind of red flag for you?"

SLW and I were in line with 2 women who swore this wasn't true. I asked where they heard that. They say the internet...

* A member of the House shall not represent a population greater than fifty thousand

Not only no... but

HELL NO

It's not how old you are, it's how you got here.It's been a long road and not all of it was paved.A man is but a product of his thoughts. What he thinks, he becomes. Gandhi

Originally Posted by Carol

When I judge someone's integrity one key thing I look at is - How does s/he treat people s/he doesn't agree with or does not like?
I can respect someone who I do not agree with, but I have NO respect for someone who puts others down in a public forum. That is the hallmark of someone who has no integrity, and cannot be trusted.

Which would not be a bad thing. It's not often that Annoyo and I agree on something, but the idea of the House of Representatives was that people would know their representatives personally, and would be able to choose relatively decent neighbors to represent them. The original intent of the senate was that it would represent the governments of the states, which meant that the legislatures, in choosing one of their own, would pick someone that they knew and respected. We might not get less partisanship, but would any state legislature send someone like Joe Biden to the senate?

And just what would happen to the electoral college? It would be as if it did not exist.

That is the final defense of us here in fly-over country.

It's not how old you are, it's how you got here.It's been a long road and not all of it was paved.A man is but a product of his thoughts. What he thinks, he becomes. Gandhi

Originally Posted by Carol

When I judge someone's integrity one key thing I look at is - How does s/he treat people s/he doesn't agree with or does not like?
I can respect someone who I do not agree with, but I have NO respect for someone who puts others down in a public forum. That is the hallmark of someone who has no integrity, and cannot be trusted.

Which would not be a bad thing. It's not often that Annoyo and I agree on something, but the idea of the House of Representatives was that people would know their representatives personally, and would be able to choose relatively decent neighbors to represent them. The original intent of the senate was that it would represent the governments of the states, which meant that the legislatures, in choosing one of their own, would pick someone that they knew and respected. We might not get less partisanship, but would any state legislature send someone like Joe Biden to the senate?

Unless you're willing to give up the Electoral College, this is still a dumb idea. This would essentially give the Democratic candidate near half the votes needed to win the presidency. With NY and Cali alone would put them almost at 300. This would leave the GOP, or any other candidate, needing to win every other state.