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Minato was a failure in the end

Obito was right.

Minato failed to protect his students, what kind of Sensei is that? He let hardly a jounin and 2 more kids to go in a death mission. Rin and Obito(though he survived) are probably the only ones who died, no other Sensei let this happening at that time.
He never regret Obito's death.He let Rin die, did exactly the same mistake twice, which dehypes him even more.
He didn't even mention that when he regret in front of the previous Hokages and Sasuke. It's so egoistic of him, or at least sort of.
Didn't live long enough to protect his village and basically throw away his live, failing at killing a 14-16 yrs old kid, who could use Izanagi but luckily Obito already controlled Kurama so it was impossible for him to use it, imagine if.

It was all like "hurry up I've gotta meet my son"
What's up with his mind, did he ever consider that he had other important persons in his life?...

Re: Minato was a failure in the end

he did not fail, he created naruto.

EDIT: also he just dident let rin die and obito almost die. That was a time of war and they all had there own separate missions ext... and im pretty sure what ever mission minato had was handled with ezzz, i mean the enemy was told to run away if they saw him.

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Hm. Good points indeed. But my fanboy-ism says other wise >.> I like Minato just because he looks cool but your right on most of those points o.O He also did not promote Ichiraku Ramen when he became Hokage which is a HUGE mistake as well. Nice thread! Btw what he did do is that he passed down kurama and which gave Naruto power which saved a lot of lives!

Re: Minato was a failure in the end

Originally Posted by MrSimple

Obito was right.

Minato failed to protect his students, what kinda of Sensei is that? He let hardly a jounin and 2 more kids to go in a death mission. Rin and Obito(though he survived) are probably the only ones who died of all in that generation they had.
He never regret Obito's death.He let Rin die, did his mistake twice, which dehypes him even more.He didn't even mention that when he regret in front of the previous Hokages and Sasuke. It's so egoistic of him, or at least sort of.
Didn't live long enough to protect his village and basically throw away his live, failing at killing a 14-16 yrs old kid, who could use Izanagi but luckily Obito already controlled Kurama so it was impossible for him to use it, imagine if.

"It was all like hurry up I've gotta meet my son"
What's up with his mind, did he ever consider that he had other important persons in his life?...

Minato was not Rin's babysitter. I'm sure it's normal for a Jounin to lose a few students over the years.

Re: Minato was a failure in the end

why is it everyone is making these hate threads. Make one and stay on it. lol

Anyway, I don't know if you know this.... but he is a character made by kishimoto who created naruto.

So unless you want to theorize about how he was a failure, do not put it like it is the truth.

Why not look at all the positive things he had done also. Aka saving the village and his child and created the path for naruto to become the "chosen one" by giving him mostly part of kurama's chakra and was nice enough to seal his and his mother's chakra so they could see him again someday. Not to mention.... We don't know how rin died, never saw his true reaction, plus he didn't throw his life away for nothing because not only did he do his job as hokage but also as a parent.

Re: Minato was a failure in the end

What constitutes the concept of failure is clearly dependant on each person. Everyone is a failure in some way. In this case, I would wait and see what is really going on when Obito and Kakashi fights.

Re: Minato was a failure in the end

Originally Posted by NarutoB

Minato was not Rin's babysitter. I'm sure it's normal for a Jounin to lose a few students over the years.

Correct! Rin was a Chunin at the time of the Kannabi Bridge mission.
In the series we have seen the Konoha 11 as Chunin, and their senseis don't linger around them like they once did.
In any case in a way he did fail but it's not like he could just neglect his missions.

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Re: Minato was a failure in the end

In the flashback pages where Kushina was kidnapped, she looks no older than anyone did back in Part 1. Therefore we can say with confidence that she was around 12. Minato was in the same year as her, therefore he was also 12. The three Kumogakure ninja who kidnapped Kushina were Jonin. We know Kumogakure were trying to find ways to better control the Eight Tails, after all, and they wouldn't have sent three Chunin on such a vital mission. Which means Minato beat three Jonin without Hiraishin and Rasengan.

Minato was faced with a series of unfortunate events and even in that, he saved the Village, his family and put stop to Obito's plans then sealed the kyuubi; finally he made a comeback in his sons life even after death, and left some room for kushina. Without his genius version of Hirashin, Mei would have never gotten to the battle field, giving the 4kage a lesser chance against The Kings mentor, Madara. Minato cannot be blamed for Rin's death as, he may had been caught up in another battle, which is expected as it was a time of War. Alternately, the possibiliy of Kakashi not having the Hirashin Kunai. Minato isn't portrayed canonically as a failure but rather as a hokage which did the best he could in all areas, at one time.