Minor correction; SEPTA did not get 611, it is in South Jersey, along with 601, 602 and 614. All are slowly on their way back to becoming locomotives. 602 (L&N 309) is the closest to running again, followed (most likely) by 601, as both still have their 244s and 581s. 611 and 614 had Detroit 'sleds', but donor locomotives have been purchased to provide all of the missing major parts.

We are now two pages into this discussion, and we still have no information at all that substantiates anything from SEPTA.

Mr. Glueck: How did you find out SEPTA was selling these, and what or who was your direct source?

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Post subject: Re: Up for sale Former LIRR/SEPTA cab units

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 4:40 pm

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An Amtrak employee who works around their storage site informed me. The photos, are not his, but came from another source. Hey, don't shoot the messenger. If they went directly to the torch and nobody investigated, we'd all be mourning the loss. There has to be a SEPTA office or contact from who further information can be derived. They won't disappear magically with some kind of sales or scrapping contract.

" They won't disappear magically with some kind of sales or scrapping contract."

I saw a couple of AEM7s go exactly that way, over a weekend: the guy came in with a truck rig and even cut up the trucks down to the wheelset axles. No advance warning or competitive bidding that I could see (I think ADM IV reported this and can provide details).

Someone refresh my memory on that last DL109 carbody, which had been modified to the same kind of work-train vehicle.

It's good to have a heads-up, but the result of an appeal like this might be to have a bunch of museum people or worse start bugging SEPTA for 'donations' or providing railfan-like arguments why 'the locomotives need to be saved'. I don't know if that would make the responsible folks less inclined to respond to legitimate preservationists, but we've seen a few cases where Too Much Publicity has been said to cause short and long term problems.

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Post subject: Re: Up for sale Former LIRR/SEPTA cab units

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:27 pm

Joined: Thu May 21, 2015 9:33 amPosts: 149

We tried, put up a good fight. Had them in our grasp. Then the state determined they were owed quite a bit of grant money back if they were sold. The deal fell through. It was apparently just fine to sell them to a scrap dealer for next to nothing.

They are on the dead line and probably won't last the week. A last ditch effort to buy them from the scrapper would work but he wants quite a bit for them.

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