Quick question: If I was using a glass encased candle for some candle magic and my petition was achieved before the candle finished burning, would I still be required to burn it until the candle is burned out? I'm concerend if I don't burn it all the way through, it might seem disrespectful. I Thank You for your response.

If you are wondering in general, or asking the question from a how to do hoodoo perspective, the answer is that, yes, you should definitely let the candle burn all the way out and continue to take note of how it burns. In conjure we read the candle glass or wax remains (depending on the type of candle) for divination.

If you were working with a Saint or other Holy Figure you should also remember to thank them.

I plan on burning a red pull-out seven-day vigil candle. I am going to drench the candle in honey, sugar, cinnamon and follow me boy oil on the candle, along with my target's name carved on the candle crossed by my name. I will put a petition underneath the candle. What can I expect out of the aforementioned?

Thank You Saint Martha for all that you've done and continue to do for me!!!!

Let it set a day before burning because the moisture from the honey may make it hard to light. Also I don't know about burning sugar, might not work. Sorry, I don't know if you are a woman or a gay man. Put some of your menstrual blood/vaginal fluid on the candle if you are a woman; semen if you are a man. It would help to burn some incense too and put some bath crystals around the candle.

cleopatra wrote:Let it set a day before burning because the moisture from the honey may make it hard to light. Also I don't know about burning sugar, might not work. Sorry, I don't know if you are a woman or a gay man. Put some of your menstrual blood/vaginal fluid on the candle if you are a woman; semen if you are a man. It would help to burn some incense too and put some bath crystals around the candle.

Thanks! I'm a bi-sexual man. I really appreciate the feedback.

Thank You Saint Martha for all that you've done and continue to do for me!!!!

Different situations call for different actions, if this is an ongoing petition then you can re-use it by placing it on the next light that you are burning. If its a petition that you are only using one time you can bury it, burn it, or incorporate it into another piece of work. See: http://www.luckymojo.com/layingtricks.htmlfor more info.

When I was working I accidentally snapped her head off of the candle. Is that going to casue a huge problem? I know how symbolic this whole process is and it is really worrying me. Should I try to melt it back on or just leave it?

In my opinion, this is a pretty ominous sign.. I'd take a guess that your target is putting up resistance to your intentions.

Anyways, I would properly dispose of the broken candle, (river, crossroads etc.) cleanse myself, then start again. A rule of thumb to go by is that if a spell fails or has very bad signs and you have to actually repeat it 3 times, it's probably not going to work out.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. Dispose of that candle properly and just start with a new candle. I wouldn't really count this as a "sign", you were probably just too rough with it...now you know you need to be more gentle.

WEll the problem is is that its a couple breaker candle thing. I did accidently break the head off it didnt fall off on its own so yeah I was to rough. I don't have another candle and I'm almost done with work. Idk if I should purchase another candle and wait for it to be shipped and start all over with it (but with shipping it would be around $14) or just keep using the candle I have.

Go ahead and keep using it. My main concern is that any doubts or fears you had when it broke got into the energy of the work and muddied it up. But if you're almost done, then you might as well finish it. It just might not be as effective due to the negative/doubtful thoughts that got involved with things.

I usually don't worry about any accidents that happen to spell supplies if it happens before I've actually begun the spell -- so if I were in your place, and the damage happened before lighting the candle I'd not worry too much about it. I'm a cheapskate so I actually probably would just melt the head back into place with some wax.

If it happened after you had already begun the spell, given that you say it was a couple-breaker, then I'd actually think breaking a candle would be a good omen (things breaking is usually a good omen in breakup work.) But if it were for any other kind of spell I would be a little concerned, but I'd continue with the spell with the damaged and wait to see if there were any further omens revealed in the burning.

I have a BIG problem... so to make a long story short.... I have an elderly relative living with me. I work during the day. There are certain days that the daughter comes by to visit the relative living with me. She insists on blowing out my vigil lights "because they are evil, and a hazard". She and my relative go out to lunch. I know it is her, because my relative told me the first time it happened, that "she was looking all over the altar, and making comments" and that "she blew out the candles before they left the house because they are a hazard and evil"

This woman is meddling. My altar is not in a prominent place in my home. I am not looking for ways or spells or recommendations to stop her, because she can't be stopped. She is so stubborn and strong willed, it isnt even funny. SHE is the evil one. She was charging her own elderly mother rent to stay in her home, before I took her in. Sorry to rant, just making an illustration... that is just the tip of the iceberg.

What I want to know is...

1. I have heard that one should never blow out the candles.... just to pinch out, or use a snuffer. Why exactly is it bad to blow them out? What happens when you do? These are the glass 7 days... so as we all know, they are lit, and burn down.... so I have quite a time re-lighting them.

2. How should I, for lack of a better word, recharge them when I have to relight them? -- and does this do anything to my intention?

3. Any suggestions? I am so sick of this. Its going to continue, and there is no use speaking to her, because her mind is so warped.

Well first, she's coming into *your* house and blowing out your candles, I would let her know that. As long as she is on your property, in your house she doesn't really have a leg to stand on when it comes to messing with your property. But that's besides the point

The concept behind blowing out the candle flame is a matter of tradition. Some traditions claim that its an insult to the spirit that resides in the flame or the candle. Other say that when you blow out a candle you are stating that you are done with the spell.

Either move the location of where you leave the vigil candles, maybe put them in the oven or bath tub, or in a small bowl of water in your room. Or set up a spell to keep her away from it.

Put the candle in your bedroom in a dish of water and close the door. Do not let her in your room. Vigil candles are meant to be burned continously. If you can't do that, then dress freestanding 4" or 6" candles instead. They burn in a few hours and the results can be as effective.

My motto is "Adapt and overcome." Keep your eye on your goals and don't let anyone or anything get in your way. Thwarting your "evil" practices gives this woman a feeling of superiority that is backed up by her religious beliefs. (I believe that Devi mentioned that she had a similar experience with a relative, only worse.)

She probably would feel even more negatively about your sexual orientation, so it would be a good idea to do something to keep her out of your house altogether. Hotfoot, Fiery Wall of Protection, or even something stronger might be in order.

Mama Micki wrote: This woman is set in her ways and thwarting your "evil" practices gives her a feeling of superiority that is backed up by her religious beliefs. (I believe that Devi mentioned that she had a similar experience with a relative.).

Oh boy did I ever! But I was lucky in that I lived a whole country away from her (I moved and instructed my mother to NOT give away even the name of the country that I went to to anyone in the extended family) - she just managed to do her damage through prayer warrior groups praying against me after finding info on my through the internet 10 years after I had divorced myself from the extended family. That was bad enough!

The VERY short amount of time when she did live in the same house as me when I was a teen, she did the most crippling psychic attack on me that I've ever experienced. I was so energetically devastated that I couldn't stop bawling for 8 hours, and it took 2 days for the physical shaking to stop. I had to sneak back in that house and move into a friends house to get away from her - I was 16.

Hot foot and mirror box the hell out of that woman and get her out of your life!!!!!!!!!!!

I think that you should tell the elderly person that she is not welcomed there because she does not mind the rules of the house. Also she is not being a "good Christian" by touching your things without permission. I say move it into an area where you can lock the door so she can't get in. It's your house lay down the law! She can say all she wants, she is sinning just as much as you because, a good christian doesn't judge. It says in the bible that you can't judge. That lady is what I like to call a Biggit! Your house, Your candles, Your rules!

Mohammed,I would continue buring the lights in good faith and try to put any possible negative effects of her extinguishing them improperly out of your mind. I'm sure many here have blown out an unfinished candle by mistake during spellwork and gone on successfully with the working. I cannot believe the spirits would hold her actions against you, a true and faithful believer.

Your kindness is apparent: from reading your previous postings and the fact you have taken in this relative in her time of need. Your adversary's lack of kindness/understanding is just as obvious -- I think you are right, there is probably no sense wasting your energy attemtping to change her behavior. I do not mean you shouldn't do work to protect yourself from her, but that there's clearly no honey jar sweet enough for the ol' vinegar pot!

As distasteful as it may be, I think those who are suggesting stealth are probably right on track. If you continue to work with the vigil lights, by all means, be careful; if her mind is as warped as you believe it is, she may arrange a candle fire just to vindicate her sick mind. (Look! See the outcome of those evil and hazardous candles!) NOT what you need! From personal experience, I can say I really like the 4" candles; they burn for 1.5 - 2 hours. Which for me means I can do focused candle work every morning/evening if I like and not have to worry about my bad kitty or curious children burning down the place by accident. If you feel very strongly about having a vigil light burning for a certain situation, you may want to look into having Ms. Cat set a light for you on her altar; I've heard very good things from others who have used this service.

Take care, friend, and let us know how you fare.

Michelle Hunter, a.k.a that Tricky CopperFoxI will lift mine eyes up to the mountains, from whence comes my strength...Psalm 121

Thank you everyone for your imput and ideas.I am going to keep on keeping on, as it is..... ut us impossible to keep her away, as it is her daughter.I guess I should try to do some sort of hot foot, because she stirs up trouble every time she is here.

Please know that I am not bashing Christianity, as I am Christian myself, it is just that she takes it to a whole new level.

Generally Glass seven day candles don't need a holder, they come in one. You can set them on metal baking sheets if your worried they might crack and leak. If you're working with pull out refills, well, usually you get those when you have an empty seven day glass around from another candle and you want to continue the work.

Also, if your looking for recommendations on where to buy things, well the only place anyone on here will tell you is the LuckyMojo site, since they own and operate this forum and it is specifically for recommending what LuckyMojo product is best for a given situation.

i'm scared to leave them burning when i leave or fall asleep without them being in a very secure container. i found a tin candleholder specifically for 7 day candles online but i don't know if it is allowed to give links on this forum or not so i won't until i find out more about it. I would get up a thousand times a night to see what the candle is doing if only had a heat-proof dish to secure the candle. i wanted something i could sit the candle -down into- so there is no way the flame could jump out and burn my house down. lol

What works for many in that situation is to put them in the sink, think about it, its a nice deep depression lined with nice fire proof metal. I know one guy that will put them in the oven, obviously with the heat/gas/what-have-you OFF<---this is the important part,lol, I would hate to see someone get hurt, or melt their candles,lol.

Am I right in assuming you mean holders for the glass-encased candles (and not empty glasses for refills) so there's something fire-proof underneath in case they crack? If so, some stores sell pretty metal holders for pillar candles. They're like a candelabra, but without the spikes.

I found one for my altar at Target for $20. It's shaped like a branch with leaves, made out of bronze-colored metal, and holds 3 candles. The metal cups have sides that are 1/2" deep. The branches are also nice for tucking in some of my crystals and saint cards. I love it.

Not totally fire safe, mind you. But it's less typsy than setting the glass vigils on my velvet altar cloth. I leave mine burning unattended most of time.

Nathaniel wrote:I would get up a thousand times a night to see what the candle is doing if only had a heat-proof dish to secure the candle. i wanted something i could sit the candle -down into- so there is no way the flame could jump out and burn my house down. lol

After reading your second comment, I don't think what I have would make you feel safe enough. You don't have a fireplace or a big barbeque outside do you?

Another idea would be to buy a sturdy outdoor hurricane-style candle holder. The kind that has a metal frame and a hinged glass door. You could fill the bottom with salt as an extra measure. I think something like that would be plenty safe and look pretty, too.

i keep readin that baptizm is big in hoodoo that people baptize dolls and candles and stuff. is the process of unbaptizing as big also? so if you are done with a doll do you unbaptize. how about a candle? if you baptize a candle then burn it down do you need to unbaptzie whats left beofre you throw the wax away? is this considered part of tradition the act of unbaptizing

Well, "unbaptize" isn't a word, but you do hear that when one is done with a doll before disposing of it you call there person's spirit out of it so they are not harmed when you get rid of the doll, if its not for cursing, lol.

You don't "unbaptize" a candle generally, it burns as part of the spell then you dispose of it in the proper way.

As to how to call someone out of a dollie, well I do it in almost the same way I called them in, I pray i the name of God that this doll is again just cloth and herbs (or wax and herbs, or whatever) then i smoke them in Van Van incense and dispose of it.

Use Florida Water, holy water, or Van Van, or Chinese Wash, or some water with a very small amount of ammonia in it - it will cleanse it. But if you're going to be doing alot of crossing work, then it probably would be best to eventually get a separate snuffer.

If you don't want to touch the snuffer, then just smother the candle by placing a dish or something on top of it blocking the chimney - the flame with die out once all the oxygen has been used, which takes a couple of seconds.

Thanks, i didn't even think of a dish! i ordered some new snuffers from LM... in the meantime I will use the one I have ONLY on the black candle (which is not a vigil candle-- actually it's quite hard to use a snuffer with it). And dishes over the top of the vigils. Candle on top of the honey jar burns itself down.

Hi,when a spell involves burning a candle do I have to pray and focus on my intention until candle burns out or can I pray and state my intemtion for 5-10 minutes and then just go about my day and just let the candle burn by itself? Thank you all.

In most cases, yes - just spend 15 minutes or so praying for your intent over the candle and then let it burn out. If it's a glass encased vigil candle that's going to burn over several days, I like to pray over 3 times a day for about 10 minutes each.

You would only snuff the candle if you are working a spell that is using a knob candle, or a candle that is segmented for some reason, or if you are in a situation where you cannot let a candle burn all the way down.

2010luckyme wrote:Hi,when a spell involves burning a candle do I have to pray and focus on my intention until candle burns out or can I pray and state my intemtion for 5-10 minutes and then just go about my day and just let the candle burn by itself? Thank you all.

Well, it depends on what type of candle you are using and how much time you have! If you are using a 4 inch offertory candle:http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatcandles.html#altar then you may want to wait until the entire candle burns out--in my experience it takes between 15-30 minutes for those candles to burn out. If you are using a 6 inch candle or a jumbo candle and you don't have time to sit around and watch it burn for hours then you burn it in sections over a period of time. I know people who will sit and focus on their work for 15 minutes, I know people who will do it for half an hour or an hour and I know people who light the candle in the morning while they are getting ready for work, continue getting ready and then snuff it out before they leave.Good luck,Bri

I'm sure that my sister practices some kind of dark magic. My father used to protect me from her until he died and then bad accidents and really terrible things started happening to me. I recently did a freezer spell and then burned a black candle with cast off evil oil with her name on it. (a few days before I did the spells, I cleaned my house with sage, florida water, did an uncrossing bath, and I constantly burn a St. Michael the Archangel candle for protection). Within hours of finishing the black candle spell, my fairly new car battery died, the garage door opener broke, and my hair dryer caught on fire. My niece called me a few days later to tell me that my sister had won some money. It was almost the exact amount that it cost me to replace the battery, garage door opener, and hair dryer. I have three questions.

1. Can someone curse you to steal your blessings or receive some kind of reward in exchange for doing bad works on someone?

2. I ordered a fiery wall of protection kit and a reversing candle. Do I do the fiery wall of protection before or after the reversing candle?

3. I plan on doing a mirror box after I finish the reversing candle. Are there any other protection spells that anyone would recommend? (I've worn silver dimes, rubbed myself with eggs- both were somewhat helpful, but I really feel like I need to work harder on protection.

I am currently working with a hoodoo worker and I have had a few readings from luckymojo. I had forgotten if I do the fiery wall before or after the reversing candle. If someone could help me, I would appreciate it.

I would perform the fiery wall of protection spell first, to get yourself in a spiritually secure frame of mind, knowing you are protected. Then I would perform additional works as needed, including the reversing candle spell.

You can renew the potection any time you want, if you feel it is wearing thin.

Also to continue protection, you could burn candles, wear the oils, place the sachet powders in the corners and center of your rooms, use the bath crystals...thinks like that ... it continues the work. I have found when I did it continuously everything and everybody got on my nerves so I backed off and developed a ritual of time appropriate for my needs.

hi, i recently purchased some LM van van oil...financially i can't afford to purchase a lot of spell kits right now but i wanted to simply burn candles to clear the way for me romantically and just in life/success in general as i've felt a lot of negative energy around me recently (which i've contributed to by feeling sorry for myself.) so could anyone give me advice on how to do some simple road opening work on myself using the van van oil and small taper candles on a daily basis? one candle would be for love so i thought i'd burn an orange candle dressed in van van and rose petals for that, then the other candle for just general road opening in terms of my life, not sure what i should do for that one regarding candle color/herbs etc. also, should i inscribe my name on the candles and add any of my personal concerns to it such as my hair? and do i write a petition paper? thanks!

If you're on a budget you can always just use white candles - either household, taper, or tealights. Just dress the candle with the oil while you pray your petition. You can carve symbols of your petition into the candle before you light it too. You could also write your petition on a piece of paper, and put that under the candles.

Dress yourself with the Van Van oil too - just a dab while you pray your intent.

Definitely make sure you are spiritually cleansing your home while you are attempting to open the road. Get some Chinese Wash. It is concentrated and goes a long way.

thanks so much! you always give great responses...in terms of writing a petition paper for this, i've never done a spell for road opening before so i'm not entirely sure how to write a petition for it. do i just write my desire for my bad luck to change, turn it clockwise and write my name over it 3 times?