You are right. I think all coaches who are older than 40 should retire so they can make way for some young, arrogant, entitled know-it-all like you to take over. I am sure you can turn any program into a national champion as well in your first year.

Newsflash

RE: 2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion4/30/2018 8:45AM - in reply to No retirees

Here's one for you. The vast majority of these retirement age coaches don't want to be coaching this generation of whiny ass, entitled athletes under the co-mismanagement of the NCAA and delusional athletic departments. The issue is they have been track coaches their entire career and, even if they have well paying P5 jobs currently, over the course of their career have worked for pennies. They have to keep coaching.

The current crop of wannabe coaches don't get that as evidenced by the number of them I've seen in job interviews who think they're worth 80k, even if it's their first job.

Here's one for you. The vast majority of these retirement age coaches don't want to be coaching this generation of whiny ass, entitled athletes under the co-mismanagement of the NCAA and delusional athletic departments. The issue is they have been track coaches their entire career and, even if they have well paying P5 jobs currently, over the course of their career have worked for pennies. They have to keep coaching.

The current crop of wannabe coaches don't get that as evidenced by the number of them I've seen in job interviews who think they're worth 80k, even if it's their first job.

Free advice alert. If you're smart, find a new career now.

Best post of this entire thread so far. I'll add that these retirement age coaches had to sink so much into their careers to survive that they have ZERO life outside of coaching. They have nothing else to do. The moment they retire...they're going to die. And they know this.

You do realize, don't you, how exquisitely difficult these past seasons have been at Arizona, with former throws coach Carter on trial for assault of one of his throwers, right? It's national news and Coach Harvey and the AD from that time have also been reeled in on the trial. Not. Easy. Not joke-worthy, either. Coach Harvey has aged so much in the past 2 years. This is why I'm surprised he hasn't announced retirement.

No retirees wrote:

Every year these old codgers say they will retire but the job is too easy for them; same thing every year.
They last forever.

Meanwhile down here in the high school ranks, we get paid better than college coaches, have great benefits, and have access to out athletes all year! Often, we introduce students a sport that is new to them, and make positive impacts on student outcomes, while attempting to increase the popularity of our sport. In my state, track has more participants than any other sport, and we don't have to worry about how to split up 12 scholarships for a team of 30! I used to long to be a college coach, but the more I know about it, the more I love coaching high school! Why don't some of you college coaches come join us? There are way too many assistant football and basketball coaches just making stuff up as they go along, and making kids run "full effort, every rep, every day."

Not throws guru

RE: 2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion5/1/2018 10:20AM - in reply to Smeller of Bulls Hit

Why do high school coaches always try to pretend that they make more money FOR COACHING than college coaches? You are being paid to teach. The coaching stipend is 4 figures or less. College coaches don't make enough, but its 5-6 figures and its just for the coaching. They don't have to teach for 6 hours, then coach. High School coaches are teachers and that's how they make their money. The coaching is just extra.

Mid major coach

RE: 2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion5/1/2018 11:31AM - in reply to Be real

I have coached collegiate track for over a decade; worked part time/volunteer for first three. As a DI mid major assistant I make a shade less than my brother in law who coaches/teaches high school. My family benefits are actually better (my current job offers the best benefits I have ever had at a university).

In the spring he spends two hours one week a night outside of school and practice to do entries. His meets are almost always the bulk of a Saturday and he has to spend more time than I do at competition (he is a head coach).

I am the one with family; and I actually think my workload is less.

I deal with entitled/difficult athletes, but he has to deal with parents and some very unmotivated kids.

One plus for him; his job security is significantly better.

There is positives to both, but I would never want to teach an academic subject to the general population of teenagers. I imagine it is like pulling teeth.

All Mineregistered

RE: 2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion5/1/2018 3:23PM - in reply to Mid major coach