Numbers don't seem too different between me and Gurz' (if we remove my self-heal).What probably is worth mentionning is that Gurzog is actually a DPS with a tank off-spec, so his HP pool sits around 450k to my 650k.

In short, I think a stern warning that the Gas-pumped Emperors hit like monsters, and that heavy healing on Gurzog + him holding off on some of his CDs for that moment should be enough. It's even good practice - I've learned to be more self-sufficient!

When that day comes, seek all the light and wonder of this world, and fight.

Sagara wrote:Numbers don't seem too different between me and Gurz' (if we remove my self-heal).What probably is worth mentionning is that Gurzog is actually a DPS with a tank off-spec, so his HP pool sits around 450k to my 650k.

In short, I think a stern warning that the Gas-pumped Emperors hit like monsters, and that heavy healing on Gurzog + him holding off on some of his CDs for that moment should be enough. It's even good practice - I've learned to be more self-sufficient!

Each tank should be running a cooldown for every titan gas phase. As a paladin, you can easily alternate GAnK and Holy Avenger (unless they happen more frequently on heroic, but even then, we have spares). And of course, we can optimize our play by banking HP during combos to get relatively high SotR uptime during the actual damage phases, though I'd imagine other tanks can do similarly by pooling rage/runes/chi.

I don't know much about monk AM, so I can't comment on that, but just looking at his cooldown usage it's clear he could be doing more. In a 6+ minute attempt you should be able to get at least 10 Guards off even if you're delaying it to avoid using it during combos. Guard is all over the place - he seems to have used it for Titan Gas #3, but not for the first two. It might be his "use to soften melee after combo" ability, but if so he should be using it a lot more often.

Fortifying could be used more often too, but it depends on his plan. On attempt #1 it looks like he used Dampen Harm on every gas, but used FB on only #2. Maybe he was saving FB for the fourth and final Titan Gas, which is why he used it on #2 instead of #1 & #3. If that's his plan, then he needs to time Guard/DH more carefully so they cover TG #3.

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Yeah, I typically keep a *small* CD (Niuzao Relic, AD) for after every combo, and a big one for the gas phase. I usually kept DP for the gases, but seeing the massive physical hits, maybe I'll glyph DP for this one.

When that day comes, seek all the light and wonder of this world, and fight.

Sagara wrote:Numbers don't seem too different between me and Gurz' (if we remove my self-heal).What probably is worth mentionning is that Gurzog is actually a DPS with a tank off-spec, so his HP pool sits around 450k to my 650k.

In short, I think a stern warning that the Gas-pumped Emperors hit like monsters, and that heavy healing on Gurzog + him holding off on some of his CDs for that moment should be enough. It's even good practice - I've learned to be more self-sufficient!

Each tank should be running a cooldown for every titan gas phase. As a paladin, you can easily alternate GAnK and Holy Avenger (unless they happen more frequently on heroic, but even then, we have spares). And of course, we can optimize our play by banking HP during combos to get relatively high SotR uptime during the actual damage phases, though I'd imagine other tanks can do similarly by pooling rage/runes/chi.

Holy Avenger is ready for each Titan Gas phase, they occur every 2.5 minutes.

Yeah, I typically keep a *small* CD (Niuzao Relic, AD) for after every combo, and a big one for the gas phase. I usually kept DP for the gases, but seeing the massive physical hits, maybe I'll glyph DP for this one.

As there is close to zero spell damage on Twin Emps (Titan Gas aura ticks for 15k or so), leaving DP unglyphed is pointless IMO.

Yeah, I typically keep a *small* CD (Niuzao Relic, AD) for after every combo, and a big one for the gas phase. I usually kept DP for the gases, but seeing the massive physical hits, maybe I'll glyph DP for this one.

As there is close to zero spell damage on Twin Emps (Titan Gas aura ticks for 15k or so), leaving DP unglyphed is pointless IMO.

Agreed. I had never realised the damage in gas phase was more due to the heavier melee swings, instead of the gas itself.

When that day comes, seek all the light and wonder of this world, and fight.

Fetzie wrote:Holy Avenger is ready for each Titan Gas phase, they occur every 2.5 minutes.

True enough. I usually use it on melee periods almost on cooldown, though, since GAnK also mitigates the TG damage. In a long fight, that lets you get off more HA casts (thus more deeps!). I generally alternate GAnK and AD/DP for the gas phases.

theckhd wrote:True enough. I usually use it on melee periods almost on cooldown, though, since GAnK also mitigates the TG damage. In a long fight, that lets you get off more HA casts (thus more deeps!). I generally alternate GAnK and AD/DP for the gas phases.

*grabs idea, runs away* YOINK!

When that day comes, seek all the light and wonder of this world, and fight.

Don't be too strict about that on a progression kill though. When my survivability was being seriously challenged, it wasn't uncommon for me to delay HA by 10-15 seconds for a gas phase if it felt necessary, and I'd blow the other cooldowns on melee phases that looked hairy. Once it was on farm, I started just going for max DPS because why the hell not?

Slow slow slow start to raiding this expansion. I think in the month+ we've been running we've had 3 days of all mains, none twice in the same week. We'll probably miss the next two weeks due to people being out and the other tank's woman having a baby.

We live in a society where people born on third base constantly try to steal second, yet we expect people born with two strikes against them to hit a homerun on the first pitch.

Flex wrote:I think one of the simpler arguments I've heard is that as a country the US has shown itself mature enough for gun ownership.

As in, not mature at all.

I'd say.

Shoju's CopyPasta of George Takei wrote:4. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers, or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you’re not quite ready to be independent. Guns should only be used for shooting grouse. If you can’t sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist, then you’re not ready to shoot grouse.

5. Therefore, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. Although a permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

first we had the mall shooting yesterday near where i grew up in portland, and now this

Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.