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I've dated "average" (whatever that means) looking guys with average incomes who are amazing in many ways and I have dated gorgeous men who were shallow. I don't think it's fair to throw stones at us "hot" girls. We are not all shallow. I think that there are just shallow people and that includes average looking guys. Perhaps it is you who is not giving the hot girls a fair shake and the fact that you are bitter is probably evident.

because when a person is online, all we really have to go off of are pictures. i read a lot of profiles, even of some guys i'm not attracted to, just out of curiosity... but won't message the guy because I'm just not attracted. However, if i met an average guy out in public by chance, and we got to talking he could win me over with his personality and charm..... BUT the chemistry and attraction still must be there. when i meet someone, the question i ask myself (as to whether i want to see the guy again or not) is, "can i imagine getting it on with this guy?" ... if the answer is no, then i don't want another date. Cause if it gets to the point where i marry a dude and we are hating each other, i want to still look at him and feel attracted. looks aren't everything, no.... but it IS important.

Another reason: i work hard to look good, i work out 5 days a week, eat vegetables that i don't particularly enjoy eating, i make the time and effort to have a beautiful, sexy looking body. So of course i expect the same in a prospective mate. Plus, working out and health/fitness is an interest of mine, a way of life... so someone who shares that interest attracts me even more to them.

Another reason: Genetics. Beauty and intelligence are genetic. I want more kids and am genetically programmed to choose the better looking guy, the stronger guy, the smarter guy, the more successful guy.... it is human nature. Just like men are programmed to choose the most beautiful woman with child bearing hips, who looks fertile. It's nature. That coupled with pheromones is how we choose mates. Nowadays, since there are so many choices for everybody and women can make their own money.... women can be even more picky about our mates.

I couldnt have said it better. Wow they shop for women like they do shirts. All they are really worried about is what is on the outside and rarely if ever what is going on inside of the woman. Why not pick a woman not because of her looks but because she is a nice girl???? Grow up. I have had men in their 50's and 60's tell me how a 20 minute conversation about a good looking person's is a compliment and a good thing. Most likely she looked at you and decided you guys have nothing in common so why waste your time and her's??? Come on stop with the high school antics and be a adult. PS also she know you are just using her for looks and it will end badly.

It's funny how many of you women keep saying "Us hot girls" lol. Well, they say the less attractive have to make up for it with high self-esteem, so good for you!

Hahaha, ouch! lol..

47 pages, wow.

One of my good friends, a rather beautiful girl, married a man that I thought was not very physically attractive at all, but she thought he was of God status!

I've dated men who others would comment about, 'why are you dating him?' based on his looks, and I've danced with men that others thought were not attractive and had them actually comment about it, look at me like I'm strange. To be honest, I don't get this whole 'league' thing. The 'attractive scale' thing where you are supposed to stick to your own or something.

I'm not interested in what I term 'looks oriented' people, and that one cuts both ways.

Of course Pamela Anderson is a bleached blonde with implants.....It is rather sad that men seem to prefer a plastic unreal image at least when young and immature. Of course women like Pamela and Dolly Parton trade on that and have created the ideal look and have been very successful. So no, they are no dumb blonde.

is anyone who has lived on this planet long enough to reach legal smoking age, really surprised that beautiful women and rich men can write their own check in this world? A hot chic can be a waitress and date a lawyer or a doctor, not the same for a man even if he looks like he should be on the cover of a romance novel. And a rich guy who looks like jiminy Glick can be at the club with a girl on his arm that looks like he shook a playboy and a centerfold fell out.

I have dated many of these so called hot women. I'm a good looking dude, not outta my league. Are they true blue heck I wanna have a relationship type? Nope. Looks are just part of the package, cute face is a must. I don't need a trophy, just someone that is my equal. I'm looking for a sweetheart.. A good one for me...

No offense man but

Not saying you are an ugly dude or anything but your not exactly what they will be casting in some future CW drama, not saying I would either(even with the extra point added for being 6ft5) but there are 2 standards of beauty/hansom, they kind thats personal taste and the kind that's universal, the the universal types end up as leads on CW dramas and the personal taste types play their friends/ cousins and boss's.

From those that like my physical type my pics do just fine. and though my attraction ratio is not 100% like yours , I never had a problem meeting women or getting dates or even relationships for that matter, I work out, I've lost 115lbs with in 2 years of my divorce(only took me 4 months), oh and I dont like fake photos, from women so I wont do fake photos myself.

My hatred on the dating scene is all the women who CLAIM to want LTR but want to still act single once a relationship starts. Too many in this world have no idea how to conduct themselves while in a relationship.

I heard on the radio that average looking men make for being better in marriages or LTR's than their tall, dark and handsome counter parts.

But yeah, LadBug, you'd be surprised how many average looking people that desire the BEST in physical. Kinda blows my mind. I have dated mostly average looking women, but I have gone out with a couple of knock outs ( at least in my eyes).

Because they are judging u by how u look, kinda like u are judging them. Sounds like u want a women to accept you for yourself but only want a woman thats "hotter"than u r.. The question I have is if u r "average looking" why aren't u looking for an average looking woman. After all I'd know better than to think I'd have a shot with Brad Pitt . Sorry but u sound a bit hypercritical to me

In general, "hot girls" don't give chances to an average looking guy, if there are great looking guys in there eyes around.

I am not going to try to estimate my "hotness." I will say that I will go out on a date with any guy, if he is nice and fits a reasonable standard. By "reasonable," I mean the basics. Are you gainfully employed or making a good attempt to be? Do you show pride in yourself and appearance without being arrogant? Hey, in our 40s, most of us have a couple extra pounds, so I don't discriminate as long as it's not a few hundred extra pounds. Are you intelligent and appear sane? Do you have room in your life for someone else and make the attempt to relate? Are you really single? In other words, no ex-wife clinging on and creating drama, no current wife or girlfriend, and you're actively available for another person.

I have dated extremely attractive men who became ugly in my eyes, because of their attitudes or how they treated me/others. Conversely, I have dated "average" and men who are not considered conventionally attractive who were nice guys who offered me more self-wise than a pretty face would.

Give me the nice "average Joe" over the rockstar. I dated "bad boys" and flashy men when I was a teenager and in my early 20s. When I was a girl. But I'm a woman now and no longer have time or energy for that noise.