I am using this blog to record my genealogy research progress. My research at this point is concentrated in Tennessee, Virginia, Kentucky and Pennsylvania records. Since many of my ancestors ended up in the Midwest and West my research sometimes takes me in that direction. I also research Irish records.

Wednesday, February 29, 2012

All of the excitement around the April release of the 1940 Census has gotten me planning my and pre-researching to get a head start. What I am hoping the 1940 Census will do for me is add some additional color to my existing family history (actually I think there was a question about hair coloring on that census?). I hope to find out more about the living conditions of my family in 1940. I can use the addresses to do google street view searches to see whether their homes still stand today. I also hope to get additional names of children born to great-aunts and uncles after the 1930 Census for my Kapple/Kappel family. My Kapple grandparents divorced. My grandfather Rudolph remained in Chicago while my Granmother Dorothy Kapple relocatd with her children to Los Angeles, California. So the Kapples in California lost touch with their many Aunts, Uncles, and Cousins in Chicago. I have no pictures of the family in Chicago. I have only one faded picture of my Grandfather Rudolph. I would love to see more family pictures and hope that the 1940 might lead me to more living relatives.

1934 Passenger List

A much talked about relative of my Nicaraguan grandmother Graciela Del Castillo-Forgey is also a target of my 1940 research. His name was Francisco Antonio Alvarado Granzio. My grandmother nicknamed him Padrino meaning Godfather. Another of his nicknames was Pancho. He was born in Granada, Nicaragua in 1876. I've heard so many stories about. I've not been able to confirm them until a few days ago. I had been told he was a Diplomat and had met with FDR. I thought that was wonderful, and wanted to find out more. I've been searching off and on using Google search for years. Nothing was coming up about him. He had a Los Angeles home so I tried finding him on existing Censuses. I did seem to find him in 1920 but he was not listed as a Diplomat, instead, he was in the import/export business. I could not find him in 1930. Thinking about 1940 Census brought him to mind again. I decided to use my new access to New FamilySearch Tree to search him out there. I found something interesting that looked like him and contained his additional last name, which I did not know before i.e. Granzio. I immediately started searching using that name and found more information about him! I had not searched Ancestry for him in a long time. When I searched there this time I got a flood of matches for him.
The passenger lists at Ancestry are helping me to build a timeline for Francisco Alvarado. His occupation is given as Consul for Nicaragua in France in many of these records. They also confirm his residence in France as Nice, which I had been told. I even got his address 4 Rue La Martine.

This is where Franciso Alvarado lived in Nice

My family relayed many anecdotal stories about visiting "Padrino" at his Los Angeles home. He had a live in girl friend named Germaine who he met in Nice. She was always very well dressed as my mother has told me. She had a little lap dog which she was very fond of , and had a very fancy pillow for it which my mother remembers. My mother also remembered going to dinner at Padrino's house, and the fact he always served wine with dinner. She also remembered he enjoyed gardening. He attended one of the World's Fairs and brought back souvineers for the Forgey Children. He also brought back a Palm Tree from Nicaragua for my Grandparents Yard, which grew much taller than anyone expected!! He gave a trunk he traveled with to my family, which had stickers on it for all the locations he traveled to which included Asia.
He loved my Grandmother's Arroz con Pollo and insisted she prepare it for him when he was in town. She kidded him about being bald. She would say he used his brain too much which caused his hair to fall out.
I would love to learn more about "Padrino" his relationship to our family etc. ... I am hoping to add more to my collection of information about him with the 1940 Census. I am excited and hopeful he will be in it. I will eventually make a memorial page for him at Fold3. I consider him Mi Padrino tambien!

Sunday, February 26, 2012

Here are some of my thoughts after 4 days working with the New Familysearch Tree. The tree I found for my family contained several wrong ancestors. My immediate reaction was to try to remove these people. I should have looked at the how-to videos located in the Help Center section. Instead I began changing names, which is the wrong way to fix the problem. You must unlink the person from the tree because this is a shared tree, and each person has a fixed person ID and is linked to other trees. So you will anger a lot of people if you change a name. Luckily I discovered my error quickly and was easily able to change everything back and delete my changes. Since all changes remain linked to the individual you are able to easily change back to the previous info if you make the wrong change. If you submitted wrong info you can delete it all together.

Screen for Separating Records

The correct way to remove wrongly attached individuals from your tree is to go to the detail screen for the son of daughter of the wrong person. Then click on combined records link under the person's info. At the combined records screen check mark each record with the wrong parents for separation. This is more advice from Familysearch; "If the combined record contains 3 or more individuals, separate all of the records for one individual. Then repeat the process for the next individual." There can be many wrong records so it's best to check mark view 100 records at a time. Once you selected the records to remove then click separate then click confirm, which should remove the person.

This James Forgey and Margaret mistaken match is found
everywhere in my tree cannot fix this

I am finding sometimes you cannot fix records which might contain a wrong spouse, children etc.. It's likely because the originally submission made years ago was wrong. Only the person who made the submission can change it. I was under the impression that anyone could make changes? So at this time you can unlink records, but cannot change all relationships. This means that earlier wrong family connections can be uncombined and then may be recombined by someone thinking they are being helpful. If you click on the watch link you will be notified when any change is made to an individual record. I've put in a many hours separating records and will keep checking for changes.
I like the idea of working with others and discussing conclusions on a shared tree. We can make more progress this way as opposed to working alone. Eventually we will be able to add document images which will make this and even more powerful resource.

Thursday, February 23, 2012

I emailed Ron Tanner asking to become a part of the Beta Test for the New Family Search Family Tree. I just received an invitation today. I had to wait around today for a water heater repair person so was able to get started on my Tree right away. I was a little confused about how it all worked but soon was rocking'n rolling. First I had to sign into the New Family Search which I was able to do with my Family Search Password. I then clicked the Me and My Ancestors Tab. From there I needed to add myself and living relatives until I could get to the point where I could link with an existing tree. You are given options regarding which individuals to link with. For instance I submitted two trees with my father's name. One of those trees was actually just my mother's line so I didn't provided much info about my father. I was given both of my submissions to choose from.

Like I said, it took me a little while to get with the program. I guess I was thinking the Tree I was looking at was mine alone. No it isn't; it's a collaborative tree. I thought I was looking for my own tree submissions intact. No you won't find your own separate submissions laid out that way. Instead my tree has been merged and re-merged with everyone else's; in some cases creating a confused jumble. I found several cases of siblings listed as someones children etc.. It's really a tangled mess in some of my lines. I don't have the power yet to make the necessary changes. Since I am not LDS I can make only limited changes. I don't seem to be able to delete people such as wrongly attached children or spouses. It's a little frustrating to see all the errors and not be able to correct them.

Yes my Grandfather traveled from Indiana to Nicaragua then
California

I am happy that I was able to make some corrections. One problem I am noticing is that one of my corrections has already be changed back. I have documentation proving my correction is correct. If my corrections are changed I will continue to re-correct them indefinitely until the other person gives up LOL. I've decided to check the tree daily and re-change any changes. I will also add my sources and some notes about why I believe my conclusions are correct.

I can see some uninformed people have made some of the wrong connections, but I am not sure that accounts for every error? It's possible some things got jumbled up due to bugs in the new system?

Merging Screen

I found the Family Tree set up to be intuitive; and easy to learn to use. It's set up very much like all other genealogy software. It's a stripped down version of these programs with only basic functions for viewing individuals and families. Matching and merging is the MOST important feature which is fairly easy to use. Although I thought some of the wording was a little confusing. There is a screen showing all merges for an individual and who did the merging. The map feature is fun. It's interesting to see my grandfather's moves mapped out like that. At this point it doesn't look like you can add sources for events? You can add sources for an individual from a limited list of catagories.

I would say that maybe 80 percent of the info I've seen looks good. I even found a lead I need to look into. According to someone Margaret Caldwell wife of James Forgey was born in Dromara Co. Down Ireland? I've just scratched the surface today. I will see if I can come up with anymore leads and maybe useful collaborations? I like the New Family Search Tree and will like it even more when I can make more changes.

Monday, February 20, 2012

This being Presidents' Day I got to thinking about the much discussed Log Cabin birth. This humble birthplace was a campaign cliche which identified a candidate as an average American. This birthplace became a source of pride. My grandfather Charles Lynn Forgey was said to have been born in a Log House in Jackson County, Indiana in 1898. He could have used this to garner votes if he ever ran for office.
Log structures were the most familiar ones for my early ancestors in American. In the Midwest and South logs were the most popular building material. The pioneer settlers of the midwest and Southern States, such as Tennessee, found plenty of trees which could be used for building. It surprised me that the Scots-Irish had no tradition of building with logs. However, they quickly adopted this type of construction which was so well suited to the area. Early churches, school houses. and courthouses were often log structures. The initial log cabins of the pioneers were generally just temporary. Once they got established they would build a log house which was built to be permanent and larger than a log cabin. A log house was also given a more finished look with planed logs, which may have been finished with siding.

The Nicolas Gibbs homestead and log house was built in 1793 in Knox County, Tennessee; near where my Forgey ancestors lived (see picture above). The Gibbs family was a wealthy prominent family. An archaeological dig took place at the site of their homestead. The two plate fragments to the right were unearthed during this dig. They are examples of Pearl Ware which was an early technique for making ceramics more affordable. A bluing was added to the glaze giving this pottery a white luster which looked like the more expensive porcelain. These examples probably date to the early 19th century. When the house was renovated newspapers from 1850 were found covering the logs inside the house. It was common to cover the walls with newspaper and then put wallpaper over that.

Crawford Log House Built 1792

Nancy Forgey's family lived near the Gibb's family in Knox County, TN. Her husband Samuel Crawford built a two story log house on their Grassy Valley property, which stood and was used by the family into the twentieth century.

The name Abraham Lincoln and the Log Cabin are synonymous. My Mason and Owens family lived in Coles County, Illinois which was where Abraham Lincoln helped build a Log Cabin for his father and stepmother, and he practiced Law in that area. He worked as a lawyer for the Illinois Central Railroad where my ancestor Peter Mason also worked. My family living in the area did pass down stories regarding seeing Mr. Lincoln in the area.
All of my early American ancestors got their start in these rustic humble homes. Sadly few examples of these houses still stand, and hopefully these will be preserved for future generations.

Wednesday, February 15, 2012

Working again on Callahan line since I made contact with another researcher through WikiTree. I haven't worked on that line in a number of years. I remember my surprise regarding the fact that Mary and Polly Callahan were the same people in my early research. This was one of my first discoveries when I first started researching. I had no idea Polly was a nickname for Mary before. When I found out that Richard Browning's wife's name was Mary Callahan I immediately searched for her with her parents in 1850 ( my source was my Great-Grandmother Isis Browning/Forgey's Death Certificate). I found a Callahan family right next to Richard and his first wife on the 1850 Census for Jackson County, Indiana. That Callahan family did have a daughter in her age range but her name was Polly? Lucky I was reading a Genealogy how-to book at the time and SURPRISE, I found out Polly was a nickname for Mary. So I figured this was likely the right family living next door to Richard.

Going through my Yahoo Mail I found an email from someone on WikiTree asking me what I had on this family. I am so sorry I missed it earlier. I hate to be rude and not answer emails. The email is dated December 11, 2012. My Yahoo mail is filled to over flowing. I've changed my WikiTree email to my gmail account so this doesn't happen again. What this person specifically asked about was Jesse Callahan's father. We believe he is Dennis Callahan, but the case is just circumstantial. I feel good about this conclusion which several of us have come to.

Callahan wasn't a common name in America in the 1700's, especially in Indiana. Dennis was not commonly used either; both being associated with Irish Catholics who didn't migrate in great numbers until the potato famine. Jesse had a son named Dennis as recorded in the 1850 Census. In 1813 a Dennis Callahan appears on a Harrison County, Indiana Tax List. He disappears after that. There is also a Dennis Callahan on the 1810 Census for Mercer County, Kentucky with sons. Dennis also appears on Tax Lists for Mercer County, KY from 1797 to 1811. On the 1811 Census there are two Dennis Callahans one Senior and one Junior. One of these is likely the same person who shows up later in nearby Harrison County, Indiana because I don't see a Dennis in later records in Kentucky.

According to the Censuses Jesse Callahan was born in 1795 in Kentucky

According to his wife Eve's widow's pension they were married in 1814 by Abner Martin in Washington County, Indiana ( making them my earliest Indiana settlers)

Jesse was a veteran of the War of 1812

My WikiTree contact has done extensive research on the Callahan family. A Callahan cousin of his took a Y 67 marker DNA. He came up with some facts which I missed.

He found a 1798 marriage record between Dennis Callahan and Margaret Bowler in Mercer County, KY

He found a Polly Callahan born 1792 buried in Mercer County, KY in 1865. She was a member of the Shaker Community and likely never married since the Shakers practice celibacy. The Shaker records were microfilmed by the LDS and may contain important info about her family?

A third important discovery was made using DNA. His cousin took a 67 marker Y test which produced a match with another Callahan who took the 25 marker test and is a descendant of Dennis Callahan who was born 1790 and lived in Brown County, Ohio. They were a 23 out of 25 marker match. He had a son Jesse the same name as my ancestor. Sounds like it could be Dennis Callahan Junior?

Another discovery he made were two Dennis Callahans who served in the War of 1812

I do hope I am related to Polly Callahan the Shaker. I own some Shaker style chairs and love their hymn Simple Gifts. I remember reading Charles Dickens impression of them which was basically "Grim". They were inventive, industrious people with a simple style when it came to design. Probably didn't appeal to the Victorian tastes of most people during that era. I do hope that the Shaker records contain Callahan family info. I also plan on looking more at Dennis Callahan of Brown County, and the Dennises who served in the War of 1812.

Friday, February 10, 2012

Technology is such a wonderful thing! I emailed the Knox County, TN archives asking for copies of deed index pages for Archibald Fisher and I received them yesterday. Technology sure helps when you live on the west coast and you are researching east coast ancestors. I received 5 pages for Archibald Fisher which included the General Index to Deeds and WPA Indexes. I had not known before that Archibald's land was located on White's Creek in Grassy Valley. This helps pinpoint the land location. I wondered about the sale of his land. I believed that he and his family migrated to Kentucky about 1797, which is not the case. It seems his son-in-law was a resident of Lincoln County, KY in May of 1797 when he sold his Knox County, TN property. Archibald Fisher purchased 10 acres in June of 1797 so he had not traveled with John Beaird but joined him later. I had read that Archibald sold his property in 1804. He died May 1, 1805 in Randolph County, IL. I found out he sold his land through an agent 12 November 1804. I don't know if he had plans to return? Strange he didn't sell when he left. It was 210 acres on Whites Creek so I know it's the same land he purchased from John Adair in 1794 (actually he purchased 200 acres from John Adair and 10 acres from Thomas Cox on 10 June 1797). I am ordering a copy of the sale deed.

North Carolina Grant Book 1794 to 1796

North Carolina Deeds book 1796-1796

It's a lucky stroke that Fisher and Forgey both begin with F. I was so happy to find Hugh Forgey on the same page as Archibald Fisher. I have been searching for a purchase deed or deeds for Hugh's 250 acres on Flat Creek. I've only been able to find sale deeds. This has stumped me for years. Why no purchase deeds? According to earlier researchers Hugh's land was part of James Forgey's 500 acre land grant. Andrew and Alexander split the 500 acres so I know that isn't true. I am ordering copies of the pages for Hugh in the North Carolina Deed book and Grant book. One of my resolutions for the year is to find the purchase deed, or deeds, for Hugh Forgey's land. It would be nice to meet this goal early in the New Year!

Wednesday, February 8, 2012

Google Chrome browser extensions were mentioned at RootsTech. As I understood it at least one of them was not available yet? I decided to check to see if I could find extensions for genealogy. I did find a couple, but only one seemed to be useful for me. I don't know whether this one was mentioned at RootsTech? The one I added allows you to search the Family Search site from your Ancestry.com Tree. This is what the description says:

"This extension takes the vital information from an Ancestry Family Tree person page and searches FamilySearch.org using those details. (An Ancestry subscription is required to view other people’s Ancestry Family Trees.)"

You can narrow your search by event, parents, and spouse. It would be even more helpful if you could narrow further by date. Otherwise it works well and can be time saving.

Once you have it installed go to your ancestry tree and select a person. A tree will then appear in the address bar near the star. Just click the tree to get your results.

I also got the extension for the screen capture that I heard about at RootsTech. I am just learning how to use it. I generally use my Windows 7 snipping tool, but it doesn't let you copy anything that isn't displayed, i.e you can't scroll down. I generally use FS Capture to copy entire pages. I will see if Google Screen capture is better?

Tuesday, February 7, 2012

I was so happy to have finally caught Huell Howser's California's Gold program about the now closed County General USC Hospital. It was so interesting, and moving because some of my family members had been treated there. My mother was in there about the time it was first built (1933). An uncle was patient there in the 1950's with a ruptured appendix. My father always talked about how his brother was put in a bed in a hallway because the hospital was so full, and there were no rooms. My family was appreciative of getting care there during hard times, even though it could be a harrowing experience. It was certainly better than nothing.
I wish the entire episode were posted on the internet; it was so interesting. The spookiest thing they showed was the room where families identified dead bodies. It was a cold room with curtains which would be opened for viewing. The body would be on a stretcher behind glass which reminded me of the nursery for babies. They showed the old operating theater. They also showed the ward rooms which contained 4 to 6 Beds per room. One of the nurses said there was one shower for the 20 patients. One TV per room, and one bathroom per room. Sometimes only one nurse for 12 patients. It was interesting to see the therapy pool from the 1930's. They showed the prison ward. The hospital had no air conditioning in the early days and patients often had to be put on IV's during the summer because they got dehydrated.
I've been looking for old pictures of the interior of the hospital and wards. I have not found many online http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search/controller/simplesearch.htm?page=1&x=1328565589006, but did find this site with some pictures of the 1933 hospital; and the previous one.

My Great-Grand Father Frank Kappel died in Cook County Hosp.

On the subject of County, Charity Hospital's, couple of my Chicago, Illinois ancestors died at Cook County Hospital in the early 1900's. These ancestors were mostly hard working immigrant factory workers, who couldn't afford to go anywhere except a charity hospital. I thought General Hospital was large with 1,600 beds. Cook County had 4000 beds!

Most of my rural ancestors never went to a hospital in early times through the early twentieth century. Even my urban ancestors rarely went to a hospital to give birth. It wasn't until the 1930s that babies were more often delivered in hospitals. My father was born in Chicago Memorial Hospital in 1933. One exception was my Great-Grandmother Helen Mullen-Mason who gave birth to a baby at Hahnemann Hospital in Chicago, IL in 1906. When I ordered this birth certificate I was surprised by this. I talked to an Aunt, who was a nurse, and she thought there were likely some kind of complications with the birth that's why she was hospitalized. This sounded correct because the the baby girl born at 4 am apparently died.

Hahnemann homeopathic hospital

After receiving that birth certificate for Helen and Fred Mason's, baby about 12 year ago, I immediately tried to find anything about that hospital on the internet. I couldn't find anything about Hahnemann Hospital at the time. When I began searching for hospital info after Huell's show I remembered my brickwall regarding that hospital. I found the certificate today and started searching again, and I was so happy to find info about it!
It was a Homeopathic University Hospital. They believed in minimal intervention, and minimal drug use for treatment. This may not have been a good approach since my Great Grandmother's baby died? So glad to find a picture of this interesting building! I will have to read more about this hospital.

Glad again that I saw Huell's show! His show ended up in front of the new USC Hospital which looks really nice! I am glad they are not tearing down the old one. It is an important Los Angeles Landmark. Whenever I pass it I think about my family, and the General Hospital Soap Opera too.

Sunday, February 5, 2012

I've spent many hours the past few days listening to the streaming sessions at Rootstech . I did the same last year. I've learned many new interesting things this year. You would think after spending many hours reading about genealogy, attending webinars, etc., there would be nothing new to learn. There are so many facets to the field of genealogy that there are endless new things to learn! The field of genealogy and technology is always changing, and will always change, so it's important to keep up to date on the changes, and new records available online. As Lisa Louise Cooke said in her Genealogy Poscasts session continuing education using podcasts, blogs, etc., is essential.

It's hard to pick a favorite session. They were all GREAT! Ron Tanner's session about the Family Search Tree was excellent, and really got me stoked up! At the end of it I felt like let's not stop with correcting Family Trees at Family Search. Let's get millions of people to correct EVERYTHING on the internet! A little too ambitious probably lol? So what about doing the same thing with the trees at Ancestry and Rootsweb? I have been correcting some the mistakes on my own Gedcom which is a modest step forward when it comes to cleaning out the rotten genealogy Fridge.

Something I was thinking I would like to see on the internet is a central location where family bible pages can be shared. Something like find-a-grave for bibles would be great!

What I've learned

I learned what Metes and bounds mean, finally lol!! “Typically the system uses physical features of the local geography” Wikipedia. I learned about mapping software for this too. Now I can attempt to map out my ancestors land.

Do I trust the cloud? Session inspired me to actually start using drop box; which is now 19% full for my free account!

The One Note demonstration during the Idol competition encouraged me to take a look at that.

Web searching is tricky . Try many search sites. I've had problems in the past when I've gone back to find something and it did not come back up in the search. I've also used the same phrases for years and get different results sometimes. I've found things that have been on the net for years but just came up in the search recently? So it's important to repeat searches often.

Only 5% of web genealogy content is indexed.

First 5 results in search are the most often clicked on.

Large number of broken links a problem

New GedcomX, to include links to other source material.

Using Google for genealogy

Use tilde at end of words in search means find words like ~

In image search upload a picture and click camera in image search to find pictures like it (see image above).

You can click on black white color images only or just faces.

Try google news again! It's not going away completely; new content is not being added now.

Can save free google books as pdf or other formats to read later.

Watch Google Genealogists videos for more tips.

You can save and annotate maps using Google maps.

There is a screen capture chrome extension.

Final Ancestry Panel Keynote

DNA 100 errors in 6 billion genes.

Computational genealogists work out interpretations of results.

DNA integrated into records in future.

Need to crack handwriting recognition to make these kinds of docs available for search.

12 percent of people using mobile devices at ancestry.com site (I was thinking how expensive accessing the web is this way, at least for me)

New Family Search Tree

You will be able to contribute to it and make corrections.

You will be able to add source images.

You will be able to remove old Gedcoms. Like Ron Tanner said you could not remove bad info in the past. I remember when I found errors in some of my earlier submissions I had to submit a new gedcom to correct it, and the bad info was also still there. Can't wait until I can remove my bad info!

Maybe next year they could get Leo Leporte out there! Would love to hear him speak there! http://twit.tv/

Saturday, February 4, 2012

Awkward? That's the word that comes to mind when I think about this episode. Martin's ancestors were involved in some very interesting historical events, and I think it all could have been presented in a more interesting way with better transitions. We moved from 1920's Ireland, to 1940's Spain, and then quickly back to the 1700's. All of this wasn't woven together very well.
I also had difficulty understanding which sides the in the Civil Wars his uncles fought on? I was a history major in college, and I am familiar with these Civil Wars so I did finally catch on ( my great-grandparents lived in Ireland during the Civil War).
Now that I've seen most of the British series episodes I have a framework to compare with. The original is the best model to follow; which the American show doesn't always do well. Their formula consists of rich, interesting historical detail presented in an understandable way. They use great location shots of ancestral locations. Research library and archive footage are nearly always shown, and are fun segments. It's fun to watch individuals do their own research, and make interesting discoveries on their own. This adds excitement to the shows, and makes genealogy look like an adventure. I thought last night's show fell flat as far as showing the excitement of the research chase. Martin did very little of the research on his own.
Not enough cliff hangers, and just plain not enough substance to build a show around last night. They could have brought in more ancestors and more pictures. They could have visited family churches, and cemeteries. The church where his earliest ancestor was buried would have been interesting. More excitement, and just plain more of everything would have been better!

Wednesday, February 1, 2012

This is the message we received from FT DNA regarding why Craig Forgey's results were delayed

Forget watering boarding When Craig returned his DNA test kit so promptly last November I thought we would get results by late December of early January. I was wrong, it's now February and passed the scheduled return date. As you can see in the message above the holiday sale was very successful; which is good because it gives us new samples to compare with. Although it doesn't make the wait for our results any easier.

Another factor adding to this slow torture is the fact the results are now trickling in backward. Craig took the 67 marker test. We received the results for markers 61 to 67 on January 26. Today we received the results for markers 38 to 60. They have not posted any of the numbers for the completed tests? No matches either? I suppose they can't provide matches until the first markers are tested? We can't compare with the other Forgey/Forgys yet anyway, because the others have not tested passed the first 37 markers.

We have generally received results for our earlier tests well before the projected return dates. This has been an unusual situation. It kind of reminds me of when Illinois was offering free death certificates a few years ago lol (actually it was in 2002). They were deluged with requests, and quickly stopped the program. I remember calling to ask why it was taking so long to get one lol. I was told there was some kind of AWFUL genealogy fad going on, and they were swamped with requests. I eventually received two different copies for one ancestor free :). Since an inquest was held there were two different copies. So it was worth the wait. Oh well, we're getting there. I think?