To be honest this was the first time I felt the crooney, lighter Deftones stuff was truly directionless. A lot of this is just so meandering and empty. "Poltergeist" didn't really seem to have the affect it should have either.

i mean i wouldn't even expect this kind of hype spooge fest from a new tool album. which is probably coming sooner or later.

i guess im just too old. all this repeated self stimulation must be because all these people are of that age where they like to jerk off all the time and then want to also have a real connection to some music and they were too young to jerk off when wp came out. but i mean diamond eyes was like 2 years ago, and this really isn't any better than that shit sausage snack of an album. its basically DE pt II and nobody with any real taste in music asked for that.

" guess im just too old. all this repeated self stimulation must be because all these people are of that age where they like to jerk off all the time and then want to also have a real connection to some music and they were too young to jerk off when wp came out. but i mean diamond eyes was like 2 years ago, and this really isn't any better than that shit sausage snack of an album. its basically DE pt II and nobody with any real taste in music asked for that."

Been a fan of Deftones since 1995, and I have been following them ever since. And to me, they got better after White Pony. White Pony was transitional album, but I thought they have continually improved since then. With this album and Diamond Eyes I hear rejuvenation within the band ten-fold. Improved their songwriting skills, the production improved, and you can tell they enjoy playing together. I dug Saturday Night Wrist a lot, but you could tell it was forced and there was turmoil. These two records sound like a band that have found themselves again. I don't get the White Pony is their best record, their most transitional album as a band, yes, but I think they have improved since then. I dug Self-Titled way more myself.