Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

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Yeah ...

chemtards go on and on and on about under 10,000 feet.

I've NEVER seen any.

Chemtards are KNOWN for being really bad at judging altitude.

Quoting: G. House

Don't be so presumptuous. i get paid big money for my expertise in spatial time speed judgement. The industry i work in is closely related to the aeronautical industry. I live near an international airport. I know the approach lanes and altitudes. And i also fly as a hobby. My judgement is sound.

Besides all that the only fuel and technology changes the airlines have made since the 70's has been to clean emissions. Chemtrails did not exist in the 70's and they certainly should not exist now.

OP is either a fool in denial or a paid shill.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18717299

No...

YOU are obviously some sort of disinformation shill or just ignorant of the physics involved.

AND... ASSHOLE!

I saw my first contrail that went horizon to horizon in 1959.

Contrails have been observed documented and discussed since the VERY EARLY days of high altitude flight.

If YOU are not aware of this you are either IGNORANT of things aviation or again some sort of disinformation shill.

Quoting: G. House

Better switch to decaf broham. This has nothing to do with contrails. Nobody denies contrails.

This is about low altitude CHEMtrails that i see every day. I track chemical-spraying planes on my ARPA radar every damn day. I can plot and track their speed, heading, and altitude.

Why is it that i can plot two jets at the same altitude with one having a quick dispersing contrail that evaporates while the other has a trail that lingers in the air for 8 to 12 hours and eventually spreads out to form a cloud cover that engulfs the entire visible horizon.

I am not a shill. I just have common sense. I know what i see. To me it is blatantly obvious. I figure it's only a matter of time before everyone else comes to their senses. Some of you suffer from cognitive dissonance.

Chemtrails are very real. Jets have been filmed spraying on approach for god sake. Sorry if you didn't research enough.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18717299

Why do you refuse to consult an atmospheric scientist with your beliefs?

Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

Wouldnt it be possible to release such ingredients without the white chemtrail?

Seems retarded that the big bad government would allow it to happen in such a way that could be seen and questioned by billions of people.

Surely any government 'agency' who is advanced enough to pull off such amazing feats of mass weather manipulation could also have the ability to hide people from witnessing it.

Why hide it when a multiBillion dollar ad campaign marketed toward the public with enough lies to get the funding they would actually need to pull off such a stunt.

Why would the government, with their undeniable ability to carry out operations we never see, and their abilityTo pretty much make a fucking tank invisible, choose to allow chemtrails to be identified?

Te government would have no financial gain in hiding it. Only a blind conspiracist would use evidence alone as a proof to the action.

If a murderer is on trial and all the evidence points to them, the question remains Why? Sure you can prove how someone may have done something but can never answer WHY. Motive, reason, etc.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33059191

It's called hiding in plain sight. People don't even look up, they plod along like a bunch of sightless idiots, let's face it.

This should settle it once and for all, from the weather channel awhile back, she is qualified to speak on this I think??

SO there's your proof, keep debunking though LOL...what a joke to deny what's been admitted all over the place.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23624505

No, it's called chemtard paranoid assumption.

And just because someone discusses proposals about "geoengineering", doesn't mean "they" are doing it...and it CERTAINLY doesn't prove the trails have anything to do with it...and aren't just contrails.

Sorry.

What you believe is an admission is nothing of the sort.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465

If you say so.

I suppose YOU have the credentials to know more than she does? OK. I honestly hope YOU are right, believe me!

You should be sorry, that you can deny away, while saying absolutely NOTHING constructive at all. I can say the same back, how DOESN'T it prove it? You have to do better than just calling whoever doesn't agree with you, a "chemtard" ...doesn't make it so, doesn't prove it as YOU'D say? There's even patents for this stuff.

Wait, let me guess your next reply..."How do you know this is a real patent, no proof of it" and "That's not proof they're talking about the trails you see in the air." Am I close, predictable...now come up with another.

Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

Wouldnt it be possible to release such ingredients without the white chemtrail?

Seems retarded that the big bad government would allow it to happen in such a way that could be seen and questioned by billions of people.

Surely any government 'agency' who is advanced enough to pull off such amazing feats of mass weather manipulation could also have the ability to hide people from witnessing it.

Why hide it when a multiBillion dollar ad campaign marketed toward the public with enough lies to get the funding they would actually need to pull off such a stunt.

Why would the government, with their undeniable ability to carry out operations we never see, and their abilityTo pretty much make a fucking tank invisible, choose to allow chemtrails to be identified?

Te government would have no financial gain in hiding it. Only a blind conspiracist would use evidence alone as a proof to the action.

If a murderer is on trial and all the evidence points to them, the question remains Why? Sure you can prove how someone may have done something but can never answer WHY. Motive, reason, etc.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33059191

It's called hiding in plain sight. People don't even look up, they plod along like a bunch of sightless idiots, let's face it.

This should settle it once and for all, from the weather channel awhile back, she is qualified to speak on this I think??

SO there's your proof, keep debunking though LOL...what a joke to deny what's been admitted all over the place.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23624505

No, it's called chemtard paranoid assumption.

And just because someone discusses proposals about "geoengineering", doesn't mean "they" are doing it...and it CERTAINLY doesn't prove the trails have anything to do with it...and aren't just contrails.

Sorry.

What you believe is an admission is nothing of the sort.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465

If you say so.

I suppose YOU have the credentials to know more than she does? OK. I honestly hope YOU are right, believe me!

You should be sorry, that you can deny away, while saying absolutely NOTHING constructive at all. I can say the same back, how DOESN'T it prove it? You have to do better than just calling whoever doesn't agree with you, a "chemtard" ...doesn't make it so, doesn't prove it as YOU'D say? There's even patents for this stuff.

Wait, let me guess your next reply..."How do you know this is a real patent, no proof of it" and "That's not proof they're talking about the trails you see in the air." Am I close, predictable...now come up with another.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23624505

Yes, I do have the credentials. She, does not.

And the burden of proof is on the chemtards to show that the trails aren't contrails. And you (they) have failed.

And add "patents" to the long list of things you know nothing about.

Just because something is patented...doesn't mean it's ever been used or built.

Also, there is ZERO evidence that anything we see in the sky as far as "trails" go, have anything to do with any patent...sorry!

SO there's your proof, keep debunking though LOL...what a joke to deny what's been admitted all over the place.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23624505

No, it's called chemtard paranoid assumption.

And just because someone discusses proposals about "geoengineering", doesn't mean "they" are doing it...and it CERTAINLY doesn't prove the trails have anything to do with it...and aren't just contrails.

Sorry.

What you believe is an admission is nothing of the sort.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465

If you say so.

I suppose YOU have the credentials to know more than she does? OK. I honestly hope YOU are right, believe me!

You should be sorry, that you can deny away, while saying absolutely NOTHING constructive at all. I can say the same back, how DOESN'T it prove it? You have to do better than just calling whoever doesn't agree with you, a "chemtard" ...doesn't make it so, doesn't prove it as YOU'D say? There's even patents for this stuff.

Wait, let me guess your next reply..."How do you know this is a real patent, no proof of it" and "That's not proof they're talking about the trails you see in the air." Am I close, predictable...now come up with another.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23624505

Yes, I do have the credentials. She, does not.

And the burden of proof is on the chemtards to show that the trails aren't contrails. And you (they) have failed.

And add "patents" to the long list of things you know nothing about.

Just because something is patented...doesn't mean it's ever been used or built.

Also, there is ZERO evidence that anything we see in the sky as far as "trails" go, have anything to do with any patent...sorry!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465

You have credentials?

Can you please explain me how did he write this in the air if these are contrails?

Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

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No, it's called chemtard paranoid assumption.

And just because someone discusses proposals about "geoengineering", doesn't mean "they" are doing it...and it CERTAINLY doesn't prove the trails have anything to do with it...and aren't just contrails.

Sorry.

What you believe is an admission is nothing of the sort.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465

If you say so.

I suppose YOU have the credentials to know more than she does? OK. I honestly hope YOU are right, believe me!

You should be sorry, that you can deny away, while saying absolutely NOTHING constructive at all. I can say the same back, how DOESN'T it prove it? You have to do better than just calling whoever doesn't agree with you, a "chemtard" ...doesn't make it so, doesn't prove it as YOU'D say? There's even patents for this stuff.

Wait, let me guess your next reply..."How do you know this is a real patent, no proof of it" and "That's not proof they're talking about the trails you see in the air." Am I close, predictable...now come up with another.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23624505

Yes, I do have the credentials. She, does not.

And the burden of proof is on the chemtards to show that the trails aren't contrails. And you (they) have failed.

And add "patents" to the long list of things you know nothing about.

Just because something is patented...doesn't mean it's ever been used or built.

Also, there is ZERO evidence that anything we see in the sky as far as "trails" go, have anything to do with any patent...sorry!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465

You have credentials?

Can you please explain me how did he write this in the air if these are contrails?

Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

About 10 years ago i went to a store and the whole sky was covered with these lines I had no idea what they were. I went home and typed lines in the sky. I have been interested on this subject ever since. I find it odd that couple of planes going back and forth, up and down can take our blue skies away. sometimes I see them going up, up. Where are they going? Anyway if these are contrails why some days they spread and others they disappear within few seconds. Whatever they are I find it strange that any plane can ruin blue skies for hours. Its sad when I wake up and see clear blue skies and then the planes come and the whole sky is covered for a whole day? I grew up in Poland and have never seen them. However I know they exist there now too.

Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.

We are not human beings on a spiritual journey.We are spiritual beings on a human journey.

Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

About 10 years ago i went to a store and the whole sky was covered with these lines I had no idea what they were. I went home and typed lines in the sky. I have been interested on this subject ever since. I find it odd that couple of planes going back and forth, up and down can take our blue skies away. sometimes I see them going up, up. Where are they going? Anyway if these are contrails why some days they spread and others they disappear within few seconds. Whatever they are I find it strange that any plane can ruin blue skies for hours. Its sad when I wake up and see clear blue skies and then the planes come and the whole sky is covered for a whole day? I grew up in Poland and have never seen them. However I know they exist there now too.

Quoting: skydiva

Try typing in "What causes contrails" sometime and you'll avoid a lot of they hysterical nonsense and get some real science on the subject. Or go here: contrailscience.com

What you see isn't a "couple of planes going back and forth". Many claim that is happening but NONE of them actually have vids showing that. It is different planes, on normal routes, crossing over the area. Some contrails dissipate and some linger and spread, due to atmospheric conditions. This is WELL known science, and nothing new at all.

Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

About 10 years ago i went to a store and the whole sky was covered with these lines I had no idea what they were. I went home and typed lines in the sky. I have been interested on this subject ever since. I find it odd that couple of planes going back and forth, up and down can take our blue skies away. sometimes I see them going up, up. Where are they going? Anyway if these are contrails why some days they spread and others they disappear within few seconds. Whatever they are I find it strange that any plane can ruin blue skies for hours. Its sad when I wake up and see clear blue skies and then the planes come and the whole sky is covered for a whole day? I grew up in Poland and have never seen them. However I know they exist there now too.

Quoting: skydiva

Try typing in "What causes contrails" sometime and you'll avoid a lot of they hysterical nonsense and get some real science on the subject. Or go here: contrailscience.com

What you see isn't a "couple of planes going back and forth". Many claim that is happening but NONE of them actually have vids showing that. It is different planes, on normal routes, crossing over the area. Some contrails dissipate and some linger and spread, due to atmospheric conditions. This is WELL known science, and nothing new at all.

Quoting: Menow 1394150

I will thanks. Im confused because some days lots of planes and no trails. Some days the morning is clear and afternoon isn't. I have noticed the same at night with moonlight.

Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.

We are not human beings on a spiritual journey.We are spiritual beings on a human journey.

Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

About 10 years ago i went to a store and the whole sky was covered with these lines I had no idea what they were. I went home and typed lines in the sky. I have been interested on this subject ever since. I find it odd that couple of planes going back and forth, up and down can take our blue skies away. sometimes I see them going up, up. Where are they going? Anyway if these are contrails why some days they spread and others they disappear within few seconds. Whatever they are I find it strange that any plane can ruin blue skies for hours. Its sad when I wake up and see clear blue skies and then the planes come and the whole sky is covered for a whole day? I grew up in Poland and have never seen them. However I know they exist there now too.

Quoting: skydiva

Try typing in "What causes contrails" sometime and you'll avoid a lot of they hysterical nonsense and get some real science on the subject. Or go here: contrailscience.com

What you see isn't a "couple of planes going back and forth". Many claim that is happening but NONE of them actually have vids showing that. It is different planes, on normal routes, crossing over the area. Some contrails dissipate and some linger and spread, due to atmospheric conditions. This is WELL known science, and nothing new at all.

Quoting: Menow 1394150

I will thanks. Im confused because some days lots of planes and no trails. Some days the morning is clear and afternoon isn't. I have noticed the same at night with moonlight.

Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

...

...

Yeah ...

chemtards go on and on and on about under 10,000 feet.

I've NEVER seen any.

Chemtards are KNOWN for being really bad at judging altitude.

Quoting: G. House

Don't be so presumptuous. i get paid big money for my expertise in spatial time speed judgement. The industry i work in is closely related to the aeronautical industry. I live near an international airport. I know the approach lanes and altitudes. And i also fly as a hobby. My judgement is sound.

Besides all that the only fuel and technology changes the airlines have made since the 70's has been to clean emissions. Chemtrails did not exist in the 70's and they certainly should not exist now.

OP is either a fool in denial or a paid shill.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18717299

No...

YOU are obviously some sort of disinformation shill or just ignorant of the physics involved.

AND... ASSHOLE!

I saw my first contrail that went horizon to horizon in 1959.

Contrails have been observed documented and discussed since the VERY EARLY days of high altitude flight.

If YOU are not aware of this you are either IGNORANT of things aviation or again some sort of disinformation shill.

Quoting: G. House

Better switch to decaf broham. This has nothing to do with contrails. Nobody denies contrails.

This is about low altitude CHEMtrails that i see every day. I track chemical-spraying planes on my ARPA radar every damn day. I can plot and track their speed, heading, and altitude.

Why is it that i can plot two jets at the same altitude with one having a quick dispersing contrail that evaporates while the other has a trail that lingers in the air for 8 to 12 hours and eventually spreads out to form a cloud cover that engulfs the entire visible horizon.

I am not a shill. I just have common sense. I know what i see. To me it is blatantly obvious. I figure it's only a matter of time before everyone else comes to their senses. Some of you suffer from cognitive dissonance.

Chemtrails are very real. Jets have been filmed spraying on approach for god sake. Sorry if you didn't research enough.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18717299

You're ignorant. The approach trails are aerodynamic. And there is no evidence that any trail has been formed outside of the correct conditions for persistent contrails,

Also, learn about engine efficiency and HS power setting determines if enough vapor s released to put the air sat saturation.

Looks like it's YOU who needs to do more research!

Stop pretending to understand this subject. It's clear to those of us who do, that you do not.