And it took reading this far for me to find someone who speaks the truth. All these people are saying "it's unethical or wrong to do" yet tons of sites do it and rank very well for it. I wonder if people mean to say "it's unethical as long as it's not me doing it". I don't believe for a second that all the people bashing it don't turn right around and do it.

This is business. I could really give two shits what some engineer at Google likes or doesn't like. Neither he nor Google is going to write a check for my mortgage, my food bill or my kids college savings. Google doesn't tell me how to run my business.

What needs to happen is people need to start focusing on different forms of procuring business so you can have the freedom of telling Google to scew themselves. I mean lets face it. That's what this WHOLE conversation boils down to. "Is Google gonna get mad at me?" People, Google does not own you or your business. Wake up and start making Google what it should be, part of the mix, not the whole kit and kaboodle. Remember that they need you far worse than you need them. I'd really like to see what would happen if webmasters and seo's started telling Google how things are gonna be instead of the other way around. Pipe dreams I know.

We didn't start getting decent rankings until we started buying them. And I have yet be penalized or seen one of my competitors (who ALL do it) get penalized either. The fact of the matter is, no matter how much G-Money brags about the size of their algo, they simply can't tell if a link is paid for or not, if it's done correctly. And NEVER will be able to. Period.

So what you're saying is he sent all the stuff to prove this is a real company, a real product and he had the financials to boot? You people just raked him over the coals because he cc'd you? Then it got posted here in this manner. It just keeps getting better.

The irony of this whole thread is so thick you could cut it with a knife.

Re: Pulling this for "privacy concerns". What a crock! You weren't concerned with privacy until Frankenstein turned on you.

If/When the names of these SEO's get out this WILL damage their reputation just like it's damaging the Moz. Only a couple have come on here and fessed up. The rest are hiding. They were capable of verbally gang-banging this guy but won't come on here and defend themselves. By pulling the post you are just adding fuel to the fire. Copies of this post are already on other sites. Maybe we'll get lucky and Arrington will toss someone some cash to give him the list and correspondence. Or better yet Roland will pay us a visit and out you all. Wonder if he's got any apology emails yet?

Quote @rebecca: "However, if this guy isn't willing to accept responsibility and instead tries to displace blame onto someone who isn't even there to defend himself, that should raise red flags to any reasonably intelligent consultant"

Versus calling the guy out on one of the most popular blogs in front of the whole world when he isn't here to defend himself? Do you see the irony there?

I'm not an seo. I've never commented on SEOMoz before. I was actually following the RSS feed because we're in the process of evaluating SEO companies. Cross you off the list. I hope the rest of those names get published too. July 29, 2009

I think this whole post is pretty disusting. Maybe the guy isn't the sharpest tool in the shed but come on. This reminds me of the nerd who got picked on in high school and now feels the need to exact his revenge by being a 10 fold prick. And all these "You're so cool, this post rocks" responders are just licking your balls. July 28, 2009