I recorded a few minutes of this one and I'm posting it as an mp3. This is just a "naked" recording right out of the G2 - no processing, gain riding, compression, or reverb. Too bad the LAME mp3 encoder has mangled and muddied the audio. This recording is just to let people see what the noodle "sounds like".

Jan. If you don't care for me doing this, please let me know and I'll take it down.

Is it the LAME encoder or is it related to the sounds in the noodle somehow ? Is one sound better 'encodable' than another, or ?

The different encoders do better on some sounds than others. If the sound is complex the encoders seem to "steal" from the high frequencies and from the stereo separation. So, if there is a lot of complex high frequency stuff with subtile phase shifting in stereo, the encoding isn't going to work that well. The 192 kbs is much better than the 96 kbs, or whatever.

Back to the noodle. Yes, this IS a real modern composition. This is a process composition in the style that was big in the 60s with John Cage, Robert Ashley, and the people from the ONCE Festivals (and others). The fact that the details of the music are automatically generated isn't significant, at least to me. The composer creates the sounds and controls the extent and bounderies of all of the parameters.

This is as much composition as kinetic sculpture is art.

One thing that seems to inhibit many people from considering these self-playing patches as "real" compositions is the indeterminacy of the duration. If one adds a little circuit where you push a button to start the noodle and it ends after some predetermined time, then these patches seem to many more acceptable as compositions. I guess our concept of composition has expanded over the years, but we still cling to the essentiality a beginning and an ending.

The different encoders do better on some sounds than others. If the sound is complex the encoders seem to "steal" from the high frequencies and from the stereo separation.

OK, seems logical.

mosc wrote:

Back to the noodle. Yes, this IS a real modern composition.

A good noodle should at least aim to blur the distinction between man and machine :-)

mosc wrote:

One thing that seems to inhibit many people from considering these self-playing patches as "real" compositions is the indeterminacy of the duration. If one adds a little circuit where you push a button to start the noodle and it ends after some predetermined time, then these patches seem to many more acceptable as compositions. I guess our concept of composition has expanded over the years, but we still cling to the essentiality a beginning and an ending.

Unfortunately it seems a bit larger than the G2 can currently handle, that's why I didn't really get on with it ... I ran into trouble on adding content. Some of the paches I embedded wouldn't accept LFOs any more while this should still be posible, resource wise. Even worse, such a patch would then stop all other patches as well.

I hope to able to continue this one day, to be able to blur the distinction mentioned above a bit further.

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