Maggie_Luna:I honestly hope that was a poorly written article because I'm amazed the two survived to their thirties by it's description. Wouldn't you remember you were parked near a boat ramp and which way the water was? That seems like an important detail. Um Darwanism?

Mike Chewbacca:Uakronkid: They drove 175 feet off the ramp into into the water. How is that even possible?

I have no idea. It's not like they were going 100 mph and it was momentum. They should have stopped almost immediately.

Also, here's how to survive your car going into water.

^^^ Excellent link, I hadn't seen that Ep yet. From that video even, none of that looked easy to accomplish even knowing you have the safety a diver and a rescue tank for the demo. Darwin holds the obvious advantage here.

/Owns a car window hammer, and hope I use it effectively if I ever need it//Fear is the Mind-Killer

This is always possible -- windows sometimes short out even when not submerged. But just for the sake of analysis know that the 12V DC system in a car is actually somewhat difficult to short out with water. It can certainly be done, but it's also possible for a car to be sitting at the bottom of a lake for 1 week and still have a fully functional electrical system.

This is always possible -- windows sometimes short out even when not submerged. But just for the sake of analysis know that the 12V DC system in a car is actually somewhat difficult to short out with water. It can certainly be done, but it's also possible for a car to be sitting at the bottom of a lake for 1 week and still have a fully functional electrical system.

Thank you Monday morning quarterbackers of Fark. I'm sure ya'll have real life experience escaping submerged vehicles. No? Oh well, maybe these ladies really should have tried to get out come to think of it.

Anyway, would it be so hard to install a simple unlocked gate in front of a boat ramp? Nothing fancy, just a chain or rope with a sign on it would do. If we can afford to put guard rails on all of our high places, surely we can do this much?

So, there we are in TimeHQ trying to figure out the most elegant way to prevent super-Hitler from being born and later causing the nuclear war that pushed humanity off earth. So we arranged for Applemaps to come into existence just to kill his grandmother, her friend, and a dog. For some reason we got complaints about the dog.

That depends a lot on what the topography of the bottom of the body of water. If it's a continuing downward slope without significant obstructions they could simply have continued rolling downhill after sinking. Water is more viscous than air, but not enough so to keep a car from rolling.

Uakronkid:They drove 175 feet off the ramp into into the water. How is that even possible?

jimmythefly:If they had time to call, that means the car floated for a bit as it went under.

What a horrible story. I feel for the family.

There is your answer Uakronkid.

Mock26:Car manufacturers need to come up with some safety feature that will help people get out of cars that go splash. I am thinking explosive bolts on the doors! Or better yet, a lever in the door that when pulled disengages the window drive motors and allows the windows to be cranked down manually.

Okay that was funny. Not to be mean if you are serious, but the pressure from the water would make both impossible until the cabin is full of water. You're better off keeping a mini scuba tank in the car, or a large tank if you plan on waiting for rescue.

I am really having a hard time understanding how they died... Oh, I know that she drove down a boat ramp into a large body of water, but I mean, how could anybody let THAT kill them? Unbuckle yourself, roll the windows down if you can... if you cant, wait for the pressure to equalize enough to push the doors open and then go.... But these peeps decide to make a phone call instead....

Maul555:I am really having a hard time understanding how they died... Oh, I know that she drove down a boat ramp into a large body of water, but I mean, how could anybody let THAT kill them? Unbuckle yourself, roll the windows down if you can... if you cant, wait for the pressure to equalize enough to push the doors open and then go.... But these peeps decide to make a phone call instead....

This guy did the same thing. Just sat these on the phone until the water took him. It's bizarre to think anyone would just sit there and die.

The two men made eye contact, but Laseke didn't say anything."He had the phone to his ear, but he was obviously in shock," Geiger said.

loudballs:Officials summoned a volunteer diver from the Jonesboro Fire Department, who found the car about 175 feet off the boat ramp

I call B.S. on this being an accident. Nobody takes a minivan 175 feet into the water unless you're doing 90 mph and launch that vehicle as hard as you can in a direction certain to bring your doom. Perhaps it's a really crass thing to say, as the death is made more tragic because one woman was pregnant. Add up the previous lost-in-the-woods episode with the stupidly ridiculous idea that they called for help but didn't have the awareness to roll down the f-ing window or open the door. Also, the article glosses over this, but

a warden picked them up and brought them to their vehicle, which was parked at the park.But Stiner then drove toward the boat ramp instead of in the other direction toward Machias, Smith said.

So the unsaid thing here is that apparently the warden told them where to drive and the women drove the complete opposite direction at (apparently) full speed down a dead end road in the thickest pea soup fog of your nightmares.

Okay, maybe the electrical system went out the moment they impacted the water or perhaps before they came to their senses. Yes, I know they'd have to wait for the car to fill with water before opening the door, but it's not like these were 2 ten year old kids. These mom-types of 37 and 38 years old with a f-ing minivan and probably a purse full of stuff and a van full of something hard enough to crack a window. A minivan. With large cavernous interior that would take a little extra time filling with water compared to a compact.

"They called on the phone that they were in the water and the car was filling up. Then the phone went dead,"

I'd be interested in hearing the 911 call."Yes, hello, our car is filling with water. We're going to drown. Help.""Open the door.""What?""Have you tried the door?""We thought we'd just sit here until help arrives."

I personally think you're trolling, as there is no one stupid enough to not understand what tide is, or how water moves shiat.

4seasons85!:trappedspirit: 4seasons85!: styckx: So the car is filling up with water.

You.

A. Open the farking door and get outB. Roll down the window and get outC. Wait till the car fills up and then do A. or B.D. Make a phone call

Mythbusters showed that unless you get out fast it becomes next to impossible to get out because of the pressure difference between the car and the water.

That's why C is in there because it might be necessary. After the car fills up there is no pressure difference. You are supposed to walk away from Mythbusters with more information than you started.

Who's to say that you don't drown before it fully fills up?

If the car is not yet fully filled up, that means there is an air pocket you can use to breath until it does fill up... im not saying its easy, but if the air pocket is too small to use, then chances are that you can open the door...

And, seriously, I'd be willing to take the case and win it with all I know about law from teevee.

A pregnant woman, a friend from out of state go through an ordeal in the woods that no doubt depleted their adrenaline. They are then deposited at their vehicle and the warden lets them drive off into the fog, without even following them????

Mock26: Car manufacturers need to come up with some safety feature that will help people get out of cars that go splash. I am thinking explosive bolts on the doors! Or better yet, a lever in the door that when pulled disengages the window drive motors and allows the windows to be cranked down manually.

Okay that was funny. Not to be mean if you are serious, but the pressure from the water would make both impossible until the cabin is full of water. You're better off keeping a mini scuba tank in the car, or a large tank if you plan on waiting for rescue.

Actually, crank windows can be rolled down without having to let the car fill up with water and the pressure equalizes. You still have to wait for it to fill up, but I would much rather it happen quickly than slowly.