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01-09-2004 08:48 AM

Roop

In an effort to learn more about this flyfishing and especially fly tying thing , I attended Stan's class last night at Smitty's.

Very impressed with his ability to convey the techniques used to tie this fly. Definitely learned a lot more attending the class then trying to just tie it based upon what you see in the photo. He has some great tricks.

Stan and Pete... can you post the time and schedule for the next session... Thanks

12-06-2003 11:07 AM

flyaweigh

Pete, It was great having you at the class, and I enjoyed seeing the flies you had posted up close and personal, really beautiful flies. See you next week.

12-06-2003 12:55 AM

striblue

Had I known that there was a class i would have gone down. By the way to Stan and Pete... I have a draft....... and it includes both of you... you will see it by the end of next week.

12-05-2003 10:29 PM

Penguin

Thanks Smitty and Capt Stan!

A most excellent evening "class" at the Rod Builders Workshop...
Capt Stan kindly supplied all the ingredients and walked us through the tying procedures...(see attachment)
We all got to do the good Capt's hook-up and conventional style...

Capt Stan's knowledge is beyond reproach and his enthusiasm is highly contageous...Smitty had to go beddy bye early to accommodate an early hunting engagement but his hospitality was most noteworthy and appreciated by everyone!
ThankYouBIG!

No one got hurt and the general public was never in danger!

12-05-2003 09:35 PM

flyaweigh

Striperknight, The tail is unique hair, the wing is slinky fiber and pearl flashabou with peacock herl, and the gill plate is witchcraft adhesive mylar. The body is wrapped with pearl Bill's body braid

12-03-2003 06:50 PM

Striperknight

Whats the recipe for this? I can't tell what you have around the eyes. Looks great.

12-02-2003 05:27 PM

flyaweigh

Dick, Lead wire is not necessary to make this fly swim with the hook point up. If you notice the photo you will see that most of the material is above the hook. This creates a drag similar to an underwater parachute with the hook being the weight hanging below, the only way this fly can swim is with the hook point up.
I do however add lead wire to this fly when I want to fish it deeper. I hope I answered your question.

12-02-2003 03:33 PM

DickIvers

Hi Capt Stan,

I like your fly. It seems that bending the hook your way is somewhat akin to using a jig hook, except you have an extra bend to open the gap. Do you wrap lead wire on the lower part of the hook shank? It seems this would be necessary to keep the fly riding hook point up.

Dick

11-30-2003 11:47 AM

striblue

Stan , That's a great concept!..I am storing this away also...since the working of the hook is very unique... thanks

11-30-2003 11:35 AM

flyaweigh

bendup instead of bendback

This a fly I developed last winter and tested this past season with the help of my clients in order to work out the bugs.
In seeking a hookup fly with a larger and deeper profile I started reshaping the hooks I was using, and through an evolutionary process I ended up bending the hooks up instead of back.
The main advantage of bentup hooks over bend back is the hookup rate increases. With bendback hooks you decrease the effective hook gap when you bend the point down toward the hook shank which decreases your hookup rate. When you bend the hook up you actually increase the hook gap. As you tighten your line to set the hook, the bend acts as a lever to open the hook gap up to its full potential.
There are two things that need to be done to reshape a hook to bend up. First you must bend the shank in the proper place and at the proper angle for the baitfish you are trying to imitate (this is varyable). Second you must open the bend of the hook(by squeezing with a pair of pliers) so the point is parralell to the new hook shank(this was the main bug that had to be worked out),if this step is not done you will lose many hookups. As with any hookup fly, do not cover the hook point with too much material.
With this style I have found that most fish are hooked in the corner of the mouth or in the lips. My clients have caught as many as seven bluefish on the same fly with out being cut off using a 12# tippet.