I suppose a matter such as this boils down to how deep one's feelings are for what's right and just are.

We live in a society that allows us to decide what's important. People here can decide to be apathetic about matters such as these if they choose to. It's a freedom that's made available due, in no small part, to men like you enlist in the military and men like me who put on a uniform and duty belt every day. To defend this freedom.

But every freedom comes at a price. Perhaps a case of beer is not worth losing one's life over. I would agree with that. It is a material thing, and certainly nothing to lose one's life over.

But it's the principle that I support. I think that the responsibility of maintaining the welfare and safety of society lies on every citizen, whether they wear a uniform or not.

The best won victory is that obtained without bloodshed - Bushido proverb

"Onward we stagger, and if the tanks come, may God help the tanks." - Col. William O. Darby

"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - for ever."

Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog