"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

I cannot disagree with you more. Corey Booker was dinging Pompeo for not being PC. Rand was dinging Pompeo for not following the constitution and not supporting positions that Trump at least claimed to have. It will be impossible for Trump to go after Rand for this.

"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul

Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.

Originally Posted by osan

The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

I cannot disagree with you more. Corey Booker was dinging Pompeo for not being PC. Rand was dinging Pompeo for not following the constitution and not supporting positions that Trump at least claimed to have. It will be impossible for Trump to go after Rand for this.

Thank you Mr. Obvious but you seem to be missing the amount of righteous outrage which Rand can not bring himself to display and this is how we are always losing despite being right most of the time.

"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul

Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.

Originally Posted by osan

The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

Okay. I guess I'm used to Ron's style where the outrage is in the substance of what is said as opposed to the style of delivery. But you have a valid point. The rest of the country isn't like that.

Libertarians are like SJWs in this respect. They think everybody is like them. They seem to forget they need to sell their ideas to emotional monkeys who are looking to be dominated by somebody and that somebody needs also to dominate their enemies. Hope and change, MAGA - this crap wins elections. Pauls never even had a campaign slogan for crying out load. How were they supposed to win? Were they even making the effort? Here is a good movie on how to win elections I bet nobody involved with the campaign watched:

"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul

Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.

Originally Posted by osan

The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul

Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.

Originally Posted by osan

The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

In light of Rand's actual subsequent vote his questioning style makes perfect sense. He laid out his concerns in a "I really hope to see it my way"...way...and then voted for Pompeo, I assume, in the hope that Pompeo got the message. Not satisfying to the grassroots I know but....well in hindsight you should have seen that coming.

"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul

Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.

Originally Posted by osan

The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul

Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.

Originally Posted by osan

The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

Except that he went back on his word. And this isn't the first time. And he has voted for really bad things in the past, specifically gun control. This stuff accumulates and aggregates, it doesn't just go away.

And it is exactly why he did as poorly as he did in 2016.

__________________________________________________ ________________"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst

Rand said he absolutely would not vote for Pompeo? Or did he say he would vote against Pompeo unless Pompeo changed his mind about whether Iraq was a mistake and whether we should get out of Afghanistan and Syria? I'm asking because I honestly don't know.

And this isn't the first time. And he has voted for really bad things in the past, specifically gun control.

Source?

This stuff accumulates and aggregates, it doesn't just go away.

And it is exactly why he did as poorly as he did in 2016.

Revelation 3:16 So, because you are lukewarm--neither hot nor cold--I am about to spit you out of my mouth.

Donald Trump locked down the Alex Jones 9/11 Truther vote by going on AJs show and then saying things in debates like "George Bush could have stopped 9/11 but didn't." I told you and the rest of this forum back in 2008 that the truther vote was more helpful than hurtful. Sadly only Donald J. Trump listened apparently and look at us now? Trump also the teocon vote by saying bat guano crazy stuff like "Ban the mooselums." Rand played it safe...and we are where we are.

"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul

Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.

Originally Posted by osan

The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.