<quoted text>CLIENTS???but I thought I was not a lawyer..you insisted thousands of times now!You are a lying fraud as usual...How many names do you judge icons with anyway?are you actually up to re-logging in 8 times ?pathetic.

Gay married couples who do not have their own children are helping the Plant Earth decrease population growth rate.Gay married couples who have the natural urge to nourish children and adopt unwanted children should be applaulded.

<quoted text>You were trying to imply that children are not an integral part of marriage. In that foolish attempt, your deceitful exaggeration was exposed.It is again.You make my case;By your own stats, as child bearing declines, so does marriage. A clear and undeniable correlation that as you put it, even a fool should be able to see...Then you make the silly assertion that child bearing 'should be included on the marriage license'. Ignoring the fact that some states still require blood tests because to the potential, why would they? If children need government permission, why not sex? What about eating together? Using the same bathroom??? Your gay twirl is sooooo silly...Just a note, divorces do rise after children are adults. Moreover, the argument for no-fault divorce was that 'staying together for the children' was not a good reason. What happened? Divorce skyrocketed and social health of children plummeted. You should know this as a 'social worker'...The government has to have a prevailing reason to determine who can marry. There is one for the fundamental building block of society; families. There is none for discriminatory support of some friendships between a arbitrary number of people.Bazinga!

I clearly stated that procreation is ONE of the reasons that people get married. It, however, IS NOT the only reason that people marry.

If the only reason for marriage is procreation, then the government should ONLY be handing out licenses to fertile couples who clearly want to have children.

Using your stupid perspective, those who are infertile due to medical problems or age and those who are simply uninterested in having children SHOULD NOT be issued a license to marry.

These people, as you point out, are only arbitrary friends.

If you're going to refuse same-gender couples the right to marry due to their inability to "naturally" create life, then you're going to have to refuse marriage to those heterosexual couples who cannot have or do not want to have children as well.

<quoted text>I clearly stated that procreation is ONE of the reasons that people get married. It, however, IS NOT the only reason that people marry.If the only reason for marriage is procreation, then the government should ONLY be handing out licenses to fertile couples who clearly want to have children.Using your stupid perspective, those who are infertile due to medical problems or age and those who are simply uninterested in having children SHOULD NOT be issued a license to marry.These people, as you point out, are only arbitrary friends.If you're going to refuse same-gender couples the right to marry due to their inability to "naturally" create life, then you're going to have to refuse marriage to those heterosexual couples who cannot have or do not want to have children as well.Is that a step you're willing to take?

I would take it a step further, procreation has never ever been mandatory or even implied as a reason for marriage, there are millions upon millions of marriages that cannot or choose not to have children.

<quoted text>so you refuse to decide what lies to tell for today?come on, did I never go to law school because I failed the LSAT?(obviously that stupid attack by you was one of my favorites)MAKE UP YOUR TWISTED MIND....

The study of the psychopath reveals an individual who is incapable of feeling guilt, remorse or empathy for their actions. They are generally cunning, manipulative and know the difference between right and wrong but dismiss it as applying to them

The fact that this thread continues infinitum makes the case for many G/L folks being....well....let's say....in need of some help.

The study of the psychopath reveals an individual who is incapable of feeling guilt, remorse or empathy for their actions. They are generally cunning, manipulative and know the difference between right and wrong but dismiss it as applying to them

<quoted text>And so sorry "Sweets and OH great ignorant one but that has already been done in California by 2 courts now and this summer the Supreme court will again confirm it! Gays have the right to "Equal treatment" under the law and as it now stands they simply don't,but come June they will once and for all! You don't have to like it but you will have to live with it,so sad to bad hate boy!

`So join us in the teaparty now. We have got the house, the votes are counted by those who know how to count and the senate is next as is the big house..PERMANENTLY our address as long as we keep knocking down every stupid act the muslim bum presents. We are for stopping it all 'til 2016; the buffet for bums and retired sick lazy volk who just wont go on and who didnt save and plan and the weird and strange who dont make any sense. Join us or be in the mess with them.

<quoted text>`So join us in the teaparty now. We have got the house, the votes are counted by those who know how to count and the senate is next as is the big house..PERMANENTLY our address as long as we keep knocking down every stupid act the muslim bum presents. We are for stopping it all 'til 2016; the buffet for bums and retired sick lazy volk who just wont go on and who didnt save and plan and the weird and strange who dont make any sense. Join us or be in the mess with them.

Lobotomies seem to be required, at least everyone I have ever seen in the tea party, no thanks

<quoted text>`So join us in the teaparty now. We have got the house, the votes are counted by those who know how to count and the senate is next as is the big house..PERMANENTLY our address as long as we keep knocking down every stupid act the muslim bum presents. We are for stopping it all 'til 2016; the buffet for bums and retired sick lazy volk who just wont go on and who didnt save and plan and the weird and strange who dont make any sense. Join us or be in the mess with them.

<quoted text>Dude, that applies to every gay, atheist, socialist, SHEEPLE, we know!

Oh no, that perfectly describes religious types, they do evil and dont care, they hurt others without any remorse and they dont think the law or any morality or decency of this country of justice, equality and freedom apply to them, or to their efforts to trample on the happiness of others different from themselves.

<quoted text>I would take it a step further, procreation has never ever been mandatory or even implied as a reason for marriage, there are millions upon millions of marriages that cannot or choose not to have children.

I would take it even further than that. Marriage is a transformative process that turns a man and woman into each other's legally wedded, respective wife, or husband. It has deep seated historic, cultural, legal and religious roots. In fact the sexual union, of husband and wife, can, and often does, result in conception. hus if the couple

That is a choice, not any kind qualification for marriage.

That is a definition, that requires the qualification of male to female and vice versa.

<quoted text>I would take it even further than that. Marriage is a transformative process that turns a man and woman into each other's legally wedded, respective wife, or husband. It has deep seated historic, cultural, legal and religious roots. In fact the sexual union, of husband and wife, can, and often does, result in conception.hus if the couple<quoted text>That is a definition, that requires the qualification of male to female and vice versa.

Not correct at all, you are dead wrong on cultural and legal roots, you best not mention religion as that has never been a legal requirement for a marriage, you can get married by a justice of the peace, I have been to many weddings with no mention of any of the thousands of human religions at all.

I know many gay couples, many of the legally married in California before Prop 8.

<quoted text>Oh no, that perfectly describes religious types, they do evil and dont care, they hurt others without any remorse and they dont think the law or any morality or decency of this country of justice, equality and freedom apply to them, or to their efforts to trample on the happiness of others different from themselves.It fits them perfectly

It works both ways. Not everyone is a secular saint on the other side.

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