the 16 is one nice machine thats for sure.. but its missing the im going to rip your face off sound like the 12 and 13gt's that ofcourse is my opinion and if you dont care for that then it wont matter and the bike is great..

the 16 is one nice machine thats for sure.. but its missing the im going to rip your face off sound like the 12 and 13gt's that ofcourse is my opinion and if you dont care for that then it wont matter and the bike is great..

I don't know about that. Listen to the flyby because one of the bikes, in only two of the flybys, is the K12 with a Remus exhaust. A good way to compare the two. I have an HD version of the video where you can really hear the difference. The raspy sound of the K1600 six cylinder engine is addictive. The two three into one, without any connection, makes a Porsche like sound.

BIG download but you will indeed hear the difference. The 2nd and 3rd have the K12GT.

i dont mean the exhaust im talking about the intake sound when it goes wide open throttle.. thats a beautiful sound... when i rode the 16 i didnt get any of that excitement out of it like i do on the 13.. the power band was more car like.. dont get me wrong i like the bike and enjoy riding it and i would buy one, one day...

Im in dallas and fort worth often next time we can discuss over some brisket at riskies..
then you can let me ride yours hahahahahaha

I test rode the 1300, and loved it... The 1600 is also a blast. The gadget side of me wants the 1600, but the pure fun side still likes the 1300... Could not go wrong with either one, as the 1600 was a blast as well, but the $$$ are also weighing on the choice

That looks great stripped down. The new pipes will also look great. I think the GTL is a better bang for the buck. If you like the GT, you should just buy the GTL and remove the top case. At least that is my thought process

If you like the GT, you should just buy the GTL and remove the top case. At least that is my thought process

No way. It is amazing just how different the GT is from the GTL since there are only a few changes between them.

For someone who enjoys a K12 or K13GT, the K1600GT is the way to go. The K1600GT is lighter steering, per my brother who made the same switch. The motor doesn't rev as high but is still more intoxicating all the same. The K16 gearing is higher so there isn't quite the same hit when you wick the throttle, instead it is a locomotive that just keeps going and going.

The GTL was designed around the American rider, to act as a conquest bike for Gold Wing and Harley riders. And it has worked, as evidenced by the number of sales to these two groups, not to mention BMW LT riders.

The GT is a true European sport touring bike. The evolution of the K12GT and K13GT into a truly super sport touring bike.

If you ride two-up and want a top case to bring all your laundry, get the GTL.

If you ride alone and approach the twisty roads like a sport bike rider get the GT.

If you want a bike you sit in, get the GTL, with its low seating position and forward foot peg position.

If you want to sit on the bike, get the GT.

If you want to look through the windscreen, get the GTL.

If you hate looking through a windscreen, get the GT.

The GTL suspension ESA settings are one notch softer than the GT. So, the road setting on the GT equals the sport setting on the GTL.

Again, it is amazing how changing the handlebars, seat, pegs, and suspension can make such a big difference.

Don't let the top case or color persuade you. Get the right tool for job you intend.

I don't get the windshield part though? On my GTL the windshield lowers enough that I look over it. I'm short too (5'8").

I'm not making a judgment here, we each spend our discretionary purchase money on the bike that gives us the most pleasure.

The windscreen on the GTL is bigger than the GT, and I find that GTL buyers are getting even bigger aftermarket screens. Some suspect that it is the larger windscreen on the GTL that causes BMW to have a lower recommended top speed for the GTL, and the reported top speed instability, relative to the GT.

On the sliding scale of comfort to speed, the GTL is a little more on the comfort side of the equation.

I bring up these differences because of the comment that the GTL is a better value than the GT because of the added LED lights and top case. I want to make very clear that there are significant differences between the two K16s. To make a purchase decision based on those differences and not color or top case. It is far easier to add a top case and LED lights to a GT, than it is to make a GTL into a GT.

I get all that about the differences with the bikes, my point about the looking through versus over the windshield part.

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Originally Posted by RL Lemke

I'm not making a judgment here, we each spend our discretionary purchase money on the bike that gives us the most pleasure.

The windscreen on the GTL is bigger than the GT, and I find that GTL buyers are getting even bigger aftermarket screens. Some suspect that it is the larger windscreen on the GTL that causes BMW to have a lower recommended top speed for the GTL, and the reported top speed instability, relative to the GT.

On the sliding scale of comfort to speed, the GTL is a little more on the comfort side of the equation.

I bring up these differences because of the comment that the GTL is a better value than the GT because of the added LED lights and top case. I want to make very clear that there are significant differences between the two K16s. To make a purchase decision based on those differences and not color or top case. It is far easier to add a top case and LED lights to a GT, than it is to make a GTL into a GT.