It might be cool to get optional fonts to use for the numbers, BUT that won't likely happen for obvious reasons. I'll see if I can't tweek the hue on the green a little more and isaiah40 wants me to squeeze the bricks down some to give the illusion that the map is on a much larger wall.

Alterations:Bricks scaled back to give the perception of being a mural on a much larger wall.Green in South Philly further altered to better jive with army color greensignature cleanupSouth Philly text color changed to black to read easier on the lighter green bonus colorminor details cleaned up(mostly with the inset)some tinkering with the overall look of the brick background

Some territory names likely need a tiny bit of repositioning due to the scaled back bricks, for clarity, easy positional fix.

There is still some general cleaning up to do, territory name positions, couple of border extensions, (although I may end up redrawing them entirely.) and maybe a minor change or two, but I wanted to get this up and clear the black box out...

Ah yes, this is looking more like graffiti now!! As for the city center inset, yes the paint needs to on the pipes as well. I agree that the attack arrows between regions need to stand out more, maybe add an outer glow?

Well I think the graffiti look has really improved. However, i think there is no flow to this map. Probably because of all the outlining instructions and images and arrows. The map is unique, however I'm not a fan.

I had it on there for a while early on, sections of south Jersey, but decided to keep it about Philly. The Liberty Bell is just a vehicle, as well as a symbol of the city. It's similar to the Indian territories on 13 colonies, or even the Sea of Japan on my other map of Japan. (except this has a killer neutral)

RBO, i admire your tenacity in working on this...it has taken such a long time for you to arrive at something you like. and imho, it is starting to look good.Just s coouple of small things from me...1. are you going to colour over the pipes in those two regions above the city and on univ city2. it is quite difficult to read the boathouse ???? and fish??? regions over the pipe3. you have a black crack in the liberty bell <- very stark...perhaps a darker yellow or brown might be better4. agree with Andy on the background colour of the city...last colour is my pick.5. on some writings under the brick mortar, some white is blended in with the mortar colour instead of sitting on top of it....makes it look weird for me because the title and other colours in bridges etc goes straight over the top of the mortar....is your text layering sitting behind the mortar layer?6. cannot quite read the last region in purple in the legend 7. your signature....is that it top right corner or is that a compass?

cairnswk wrote:RBO, i admire your tenacity in working on this...it has taken such a long time for you to arrive at something you like. and imho, it is starting to look good.Just s coouple of small things from me...1. are you going to colour over the pipes in those two regions above the city and on univ city

I wasn't planning on it, but I can try it and see how it looks.

cairnswk wrote:2. it is quite difficult to read the boathouse ???? and fish??? regions over the pipe

Boathouse Row and Fishtown, it was a suggestion further back to get the names more onto the pipe, I can work on those.

cairnswk wrote:3. you have a black crack in the liberty bell <- very stark...perhaps a darker yellow or brown might be better

Probably go with a dark brown.

cairnswk wrote:4. agree with Andy on the background colour of the city...last colour is my pick.

Already fiddled with and hopefully taken care of.

cairnswk wrote:5. on some writings under the brick mortar, some white is blended in with the mortar colour instead of sitting on top of it....makes it look weird for me because the title and other colours in bridges etc goes straight over the top of the mortar....is your text layering sitting behind the mortar layer?

Ditto this.

cairnswk wrote:6. cannot quite read the last region in purple in the legend

Double ditto this.

cairnswk wrote:7. your signature....is that it top right corner or is that a compass?

No, its the cross-hairs from the old-old classic avatar I used to have. (It's also the "0" from RedBaron0 )

nolefan5311 wrote:Also, this...

Well, it kind of looks like something lol

um... opps? kinda makes more "graffiti" now doesn't it? I'll... redraw it some, try not to have it... look so suggestive.