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[QUOTE=ThePipeMan;13059981]I love how you continue to judge me. So what, i like video games? Are you from the 1960's..? I like to get high.. atleast i dont get drunk. And what do you know about my work ethic?

The original question is pointless if you want to continue to "get high"! I don't know of many unions, at least around here, that don't do drug testing. And every time i've gone someone was watching so there was no tricking the test. Been called in for a few random tests. If the union doesn't test i've also been on many projects that have done there own testing. There's a reason they don't want losers on there projects...

Just because the kid smokes weed and likes to play video games doesn't mean he's a loser, or that he isn't motivated. Christ some of you people on this board are so judgmental. Yes there are potheads and drunks that are complete losers, but that doesn't mean they all are. I have good personal friends that smoke weed quite often and they are some of the most intelligent and motivated people I know.

If you were an employer would you employ a pothead. It's purely statistical. Someone that dies drugs is more likley to be in an accident and or cost the company money in the long run. Also you stand a better chance to be successful if your drug free. I don't care what any of you do but this is a cya society.

Judge all you will. I asked a few simple questions and you all hop on here bashing me. I would much rather smoke weed than drink, so atleast im halfway there, am i wrong? I love to come home after a hard days worth of work and spark up a joint or take a hit from my bowl. People smoke cigarettes and crave them all day long, i dont judge them. People can do as they please. I can understand you trying to persuade me to stop, or w.e, but straight up judging people and saying **** just to say it, calls for an ass whooping in my neck of the woods. keep your mouth shut, if you have nothing nice to say.

++++++++ You can sit there and make 70k a year, but i will be the one laughing when your ass is either burnt to a crisp from nibiru passing or sucked into the ocean.

In our hall it would be a matter of time before you get caught.And when you do get caught it cost you about two grand for rehab out of your pocket and you get one strike.And if you stay clean you are banned from alot of big jobs.A lot of our guys work at refinery and you would be banned for life there.I used to smoke a lot of bud.There does come a time to grow up.

Judge all you will. I asked a few simple questions and you all hop on here bashing me. I would much rather smoke weed than drink, so atleast im halfway there, am i wrong? I love to come home after a hard days worth of work and spark up a joint or take a hit from my bowl. People smoke cigarettes and crave them all day long, i dont judge them. People can do as they please. I can understand you trying to persuade me to stop, or w.e, but straight up judging people and saying **** just to say it, calls for an ass whooping in my neck of the woods. keep your mouth shut, if you have nothing nice to say.

++++++++ You can sit there and make 70k a year, but i will be the one laughing when your ass is either burnt to a crisp from nibiru passing or sucked into the ocean.

I can drink all I want and still pass my employers drug test, you cannot.

This isn't a "What is healthier for you, pot or alcohol?" thread.

Plain and simple... If you want to make something of yourself and make a better life for your wife and kids, you can start by quitting drugs. It's both illegal and against every employers policies out there. If not I can promise you this (I have seen it a million times), you may get a decent paying job somewhere and you may hide your drug use for awhile but you will get popped sooner or later and then it's back to crappy warehouse jobs or restaurant work.

Just last week a kid got fired for being in an accident, only he didn't cause the accident, he was stopped at a red light and some lady rear ended him. Any accident in a company vehicle gets you a immediate drug test, your fault or not... he pissed hot.

Kid gave up a $60k/yr job so he could smoke pot. Does that sound stable to you? Is that the kind of life you want to provide for your wife and kids? I inspire to be a rock for my family, I don't gamble with their well being.

I am not judging you. I don't even know you. I sincerely hope you see what I am saying and you take it to heart.

Just because the kid smokes weed and likes to play video games doesn't mean he's a loser, or that he isn't motivated. Christ some of you people on this board are so judgmental. Yes there are potheads and drunks that are complete losers, but that doesn't mean they all are. I have good personal friends that smoke weed quite often and they are some of the most intelligent and motivated people I know.

I know plenty as well, some I was even surprised to find out, but the law is clear. I would not risk civil disobedience to smoke tuff. In this field it is your job if you get caught. However I would not call someone a loser if they smoked pot, just someone I would never hire or want on any of my jobs.

No one really cares who drinks or gets high. yes drug test are expected when you get hired but really are they done randomly after your hired. it costs money and most companies wont pay to get them unless they suspect something or are required by their insurance company. But the bottom line is this, if you get hurt or hurt someone else during work a co-worker or a customer, or Get a DUI .. your done. legally you will get screwed. When the hammer you drop kills someone, or the fire you set burns a house down and they do a blood test and find drug use or heavy alcohol use you will be held responsible, legally, financially and morally. Heck your partner could have done it, but don't think you wont be tested too. the cops, lawyers, insurance companies will look to hang someone, might as well be you.

When your young with no kids, wife or family. You can be reckless. but when its time to grow up and you have all those things. think what will happen when the sh%t hits the fan. Its not just your life your messing up.

I'm sorry i flipped out, you people were just trying to help. I took it the wrong way, after second thoughts. I will not laugh when nibiru comes, because i will be the one dying.. but thats for another thread. Thanks for all your support and answers, i will now try and grow up and become the man i was sent here to be.

[QUOTE=dlove;13071561]No one really cares who drinks or gets high. yes drug test are expected when you get hired but really are they done randomly after your hired. it costs money and most companies wont pay to get them unless they suspect something or are required by their insurance company. But the bottom line is this, if you get hurt or hurt someone else during work a co-worker or a customer, or Get a DUI .. your done. legally you will get screwed. When the hammer you drop kills someone, or the fire you set burns a house down and they do a blood test and find drug use or heavy alcohol use you will be held responsible, legally, financially and morally. Heck your partner could have done it, but don't think you wont be tested too. the cops, lawyers, insurance companies will look to hang someone, might as well be you.

When your young with no kids, wife or family. You can be reckless. but when its time to grow up and you have all those things. think what will happen when the sh%t hits the fan. Its not just your life your messing up.

I've had 2 random drug tests by my union in 3 years. And off the top of my head at least 6 or 7 projects i've had to test before stepping on site. Those were all very large projects though. I suppose for the resi/small commercial side it may be more rare for job site tests.

around these parts, peeing in the cup is part of every day life. any time you go on a new site, the cup comes out. I pay for soo many damn pee tests its nutso. Fifty bucks a pop, every time one of my guys goes to a site he hasnt been before, no pee, go home.

I recently had talks with HS, which is non-Union in this area. I was told a top Tech is higher mid-$20s. This is far below the UA SJm here, it's $35/Hr. for all you that want to say it's not all about the money, you're only fooling yourselves.