Thursday, August 10, 2006

IT'S COMING!

IT'S COMING!!!!! Hey everybody! The tie down is coming i promise-- this ones gonna take some time though! I'll do my best to post what and when i can but haven't had much to say yet. but believe me i will once i can show ya'll this tie down version! hang in there everybody and we'll see ya on the next post!

it's looking great till far and it's worth waiting to see it done. i was watching closely this drawing and i notice you do the line very short and cut instead of a long and continuous line. it gives to the drawing a great apeal. do you make you line like that for any reason in particular?

hey guys! yeah, i'd be willing to put it on a quicktime except i'm not real technically savvy and would need some assistance in doing so. I know it's sorta essential for learning (being able to frame by frame something). I'll do some research but if anyone can help i'd appreciate it! thanks!

Oh yeah, Julian: Thanks man! Yeah, the line quality is kinda a Fucile/Kahl inspired line. Some people use it, others don't. frankly i hated it when i first saw it. but then it grew on me, and then i tried it and the control it offered was pretty amazing. The pitfall is drawing stiffly, but there are ways around it. I'll talk about it more later!

The line-quality issue is interesting, kind of the antithesis of the Keane-ish "kiss the paper" line. And I never see it addressed anywhere.

I noticed also that Baxter did the same, Zielinski, and quite a few others. I recently tried laying down line in this fashion , and you're dead on about the control it could give you, although I still make terrible drawings.

Hey Matt! just dropping by to say Hi! I was touring all summer and some places(like Shanghai) couldn't get blogger to oppen! grrrrrrh! but hey I'm back now and I have to read all your nerdome on this page. man. can you wait for school to start? BECAUSE I CAN'T!!!

Hey Michael! thanks for the generous offer. I use flipbook and it doesn't make quicktimes. I guess what i more meant was how do i post a quicktime on my blog? If i could make an AVI or something and get it transfered to a quicktime then how do i post it? Phil and Halya: I'm a workin' I'm a workin!!Bobby: Yeah, i guess it's pretty different than the Glen style. and believe me, if you know me you know that he was my hero growing up. I used to draw just like him-- line quality wise at least. As i sent stuff through the production pipeline i found out that you DO NOT want to leave room for interpretation! So drawing tight on your tie downs was the best way to ensure that what you do ends up on screen. Even then it can be iffy if you don't get good clean-up folks. but the other thing about the line is that the subtlety you can get is astounding! I hate it when i hear CG guys talk about how you can't get subtlety in hand drawn. They obviously haven't studied hand drawn very much. Or at least GOOD hand drawn animation. This line quality allows me to get the performance i see in my head up on screen much more clearly!Jamall: I just wrote ya...Minkyu: Dude i am stoked! are you ready to draw Thumper? Cuz that's gonna be your guys' 1st or 2nd assignment! Glad to hear you've had an eventful summer, we'll see ya soon!

hi matt. yeah i really like it beacouse it reamaind me of kahl's line too!! i thinks that sketchy quality make's the total diference. everything this way have more apeal, perfect clean ups tights the drawing to me. perhaps the key to the return of hand drawn animation would be with the style that it's my favourite of all time like the sword in the stone, the jungle book, the aristocats, and those. you could see even the construction lines of the characters time to time!!!! xeroxing the pencil line without caring about the joints, the thick, was great when it was done by those old folks!!! you have it to so i love watching your posts!! it's a hope i have to see a feature again like i want. if you compare there will be the fully diference with 3d, by FEELING the artist hand in movement, it's like clay animation done by nick park when he decides to leave the finger print some times. 3D is cold compare to that. for example the last movie that i saw like this was the tripplets of belleville and it's awsome!!! you can realy feel the acting , the expretions, the rithm way more becouse of the scketchy line quality!!!!

hi matt. yeah i really like it beacouse it reamaind me of kahl's line too!! i thinks that sketchy quality make's the total diference. everything this way have more apeal, perfect clean ups tights the drawing to me. perhaps the key to the return of hand drawn animation would be with the style that it's my favourite of all time like the sword in the stone, the jungle book, the aristocats, and those. you could see even the construction lines of the characters time to time!!!! xeroxing the pencil line without caring about the joints, the thick, was great when it was done by those old folks!!! you have it to so i love watching your posts!! it's a hope i have to see a feature again like i want. if you compare there will be the fully diference with 3d, by FEELING the artist hand in movement, it's like clay animation done by nick park when he decides to leave the finger print some times. 3D is cold compare to that. for example the last movie that i saw like this was the tripplets of belleville and it's awsome!!! you can realy feel the acting , the expretions, the rithm way more becouse of the scketchy line quality!!!!

Matt, for posting a file, a quicktime or any other format, you should have a web space, somewhere that you can upload files and then use the link in your blog, becasue blogger doesn't allow for file hosting.

i have a space and i can host the file for about two months, after that i'll have to take it down. maybe some of the guys here happen to have unlimited space and could host the file for you, in any case it would be wise to post it on youtube AND put up a quicktime so if the quicktime fails for any reason, the youtube version would still be accessable.

Julian: Who knows in what form hand drawn will come back in. I have a huge respect for the great clean-up artists i know or have worked with: Brian Clift, Trevor Tamboline, Emily Juliano. but there is something special about seeing the ruffs on the screen isn't there!Hey Young! I'd be thankful if when the time comes i could send you the AVI and you could make a quicktime out of it. and no that turkey steve never did call me back! haha Victor: Your always too kind to me man! I want to see some more of YOUR beautiful drawings and animation!Michael: thanks for the offer once again! I know if i can compress the file down, which i know i can, Vimeo makes their posts downloadable. So maybe i'll try that once it's time. thanks for all your rad comments everybdoy!

Hey Matt, if you ever need any help exporting to quicktime, let me know(jeremy-hopkins@excite.com) and I'll do it for you. I can even add a counter to help others see the frame numbers and host it on my site for folks to download if that's ok with you. Ya, I like the Milt Kahl linework too for control. The Freddy Moore/Glen Keane drawings are beautiful but I can see where that would be difficult to pass down the production line. Still it's amazing to see one frame of Glen's rough animation as beautiful art filled with life and innovation.