Ok!! lads you have twisted my arm, I am going to throw a couple of my old Opty's at this ...will fold with the GPU's and CRUNCH with them and see how it goes..

Anyone know if there is any difference from using the folding SMP client and this, more or less the same or will it effect the GPU's folding??

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A little different from smp. You use boinc for wcg, and the gpu2 client for your gpu's. Just make sure that you set priority to slightly higher (on the last tab when you run the config) when you set up the gpu client, and you will not take any points hit for f@h. I have several rigs running wcg on the cpu and f@h on the gpu.

I can say with certainty that my lone GTX260 scores lots of BOINC points in a day with GPUGrid. A lot more than a single quad machine. The trick is whether a BOINC points made by doing the science at GPUGrid is equivalent to crunching a CPU WU at WCG. That I don't know.

As far as the number of WUs run, the GPUGrid WUs are bigger than the ones I crunch at WCG. So they take longer to crunch for a given number of WUs, but you get a heck of a lot more points for it.

I suppose that may have an answer if GPU crunching comes to WCG. I am prepared to upgrade the GPUs in all my farm machines if it proves worthwhile. Heck, I'm running old 90's vintage Virge cards in a lot of the farm machines now. We have folks that run totally headless, with no graphics card. They control the machines remotely.

What I do know is that the more hardware we can bring to the picture, on any project, the better all the projects will do, and the more good we can contribute to the world.

Might also be a firewall issue? IIRC, I had to allow boinc through the firewall on a few rigs. I'm thinking that was back when I was running server 03 on the rigs. I run Vista 64 bit on everything now.

What op system?

I know for sure when you are running a remote monitoring program like BoincView, to manage a farm, port 31416 has to be opened on the target machine.

The re-install suggestion may clear it up too. Don't know. If it doesn't, poke into your firewall and see if boinc is listed as allowed.

Might also be a firewall issue? IIRC, I had to allow boinc through the firewall on a few rigs. I'm thinking that was back when I was running server 03 on the rigs. I run Vista 64 bit on everything now.

What op system?

I know for sure when you are running a remote monitoring program like BoincView, to manage a farm, port 31416 has to be opened on the target machine.

The re-install suggestion may clear it up too. Don't know. If it doesn't, poke into your firewall and see if boinc is listed as allowed.

Bob

Whoops, crossed posts with you CP...

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its my bench rig, no firewall, Windows security center is disabled. Any other suggestions. Re installing it didnt work neither dammit I wanted to have both rigs crunching.

SOAPBOX WARNING> OK, here's perfect example of why a sub-forum is needed. We tried to help out CP with a problem, and put a bunch of posts up. This particular post has to do with my post #154, and Fits post #151, etc......It's clear down in post #168.

If I stick this info in an edit on my post #154, it may be lost, due to the in-between posts on other topics. It won't be seen..... This is on the topic of the technicals of BOINC and it's point system, and how it was designed. Crunching (and folding) can be very complex, requiring different threads to keep it straight......>SOAPBOX OVER

>>Possible temporary solution? Make threads in whatever the best section is for TPU WCG to live in, and begin the title of every thread with "TPU WCG", no matter what the rest of the title says. That way, you could search the forum for TPU WCG and get all the threads you need. That might make this doable in the present circumstances? <<

OK, now to my post. There is a VERY good article that goes really deep in BOINC point calculation. I could not find that particular paper since our home is busted. We had a thread on it.... I will come back and link it when I go home. For now, I looked at BOINC's home page and found this technical paper here. It's about how BOINC was formulated. It has very good background for those with a technical bent. (I'm a Staff Electrical Engineer on the day job, so I get stuck reading this kind of stuff...can't help it....)

What we do can be treated very simply on the surface for those who do not want to dig too deep. On the other hand, it can get VERY technically complex if one desires to know the nuances of it. The key for the folks you encounter while you build your team is to be able to point them the right places when the questions come. Some questions are easy, some are not. :End of my actual post info

In the case of CP's problem tonight, there is a simple solution that I KNOW I came across before, I just could not pull it up right away. (And yes, it was frustrating to me. I had to call up the cavalry to come and help...) That's what the team is for, with the right thread structure. T, and others in the cav, have seen this before too. It just shows that anyone can be stumped for an answer, anytime. What good thread management allows is to cut through the BS and find the magic search words.

Don't get me wrong, we XS WCG team refugees are probably world famous at taking a thread off topic... I have not done that here, since we are your guests. :up: (A "thumbs up" in XS emoticonage..)

Allright, enough. I seem to be famous for writing "books" on XS too..... Sorry!