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hermhater

03-31-2008, 12:36 AM

10 helments for our 10 picks? awesome!limited to 10 pictures, otherwise I would have included the Good Job sign!!!

all the draft is to me is a bunch of kids getting paid for doing nothing.

royalswin100games

03-31-2008, 01:02 AM

all the draft is to me is a bunch of kids getting paid for doing nothing.

But you buy into it.

:11:

tammietailgator

03-31-2008, 01:07 AM

You're bad!

:beer:
Yes and no.... rock chalk!

:lol:

hermhater

03-31-2008, 01:08 AM

all the draft is to me is a bunch of kids getting paid for doing nothing.

Whether or not you think what they do is work, they try very hard at what they do.

If you are getting paid to do something because you have the talent that others don't that's just part of life.

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Guru

03-31-2008, 01:10 AM

I just don't believe in paying for something they haven't done yet. Rookies demanding more money than vets make is asinine. Hold-outs piss me off. The NFL needs a rookie maximum clause for the first 2 years.

Guru

03-31-2008, 01:12 AM

But you buy into it.

:11:

I do? How exactly is that?

royalswin100games

03-31-2008, 01:12 AM

I just don't believe in paying for something they haven't done yet. Rookies demanding more money than vets make is asinine. Hold-outs piss me off. The NFL needs a rookie maximum clause for the first 2 years.

Ah, clarification. I understand now.

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hermhater

03-31-2008, 01:17 AM

I just don't believe in paying for something they haven't done yet. Rookies demanding more money than vets make is asinine. Hold-outs piss me off. The NFL needs a rookie maximum clause for the first 2 years.

It's a gamble man, you try to see if you can predict the next big thing, and if you're right your investment pays off!

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Guru

03-31-2008, 01:25 AM

It's a gamble man, you try to see if you can predict the next big thing, and if you're right your investment pays off!

:bananen_smilies046:

Which is why I am such a supporter of FIRING CARL!!!!:D

royalswin100games

03-31-2008, 01:34 AM

Which is why I am such a supporter of FIRING CARL!!!!:D

Yes, fire Carl! Fire him before the draft.

:toast2:

hermhater

03-31-2008, 01:58 AM

Which is why I am such a supporter of FIRING CARL!!!!:D

Yes, fire Carl! Fire him before the draft.

:toast2:

I'm down with that guys!

Get rid of the son of a ***** before he ruins the Chiefs!

Oops!

:D

AkChief49

03-31-2008, 10:02 AM

I just don't believe in paying for something they haven't done yet. Rookies demanding more money than vets make is asinine. Hold-outs piss me off. The NFL needs a rookie maximum clause for the first 2 years.I've never understood the players union for not taking this money back for the veterans!!Never took a snap or played a down in the league and you want how much? Completely agree with you on this Guru. A rookie pay scale like the NBA. Prove yourself THEN get paid!!:bananen_smilies046:

rbedgood

03-31-2008, 01:58 PM

I've never understood the players union for not taking this money back for the veterans!!Never took a snap or played a down in the league and you want how much? Completely agree with you on this Guru. A rookie pay scale like the NBA. Prove yourself THEN get paid!!:bananen_smilies046:

I'd argue for something in between. A rookie pay scale needs to happen, but frankly it should also include a lot of incentive pay for the guys who truly shine.

hermhater

03-31-2008, 02:02 PM

Rookies in the NFL have a much higher chance of suffering a career ending injury in just one game than other sports.

How are they compensated if they never get the chance to shine?

rbedgood

03-31-2008, 02:03 PM

Rookies in the NFL have a much higher chance of suffering a career ending injury in just one game than other sports.

How are they compensated if they never get the chance to shine?

I believe that is part of Guru's point...they can get paid without ever doing anything. You are paying for potential rather than productivity.

hermhater

03-31-2008, 02:08 PM

I believe that is part of Guru's point...they can get paid without ever doing anything. You are paying for potential rather than productivity.

I understand Guru's point, I'm arguing that the NFL shouldn't have a cap on rookies salaries because the nature of the game involves so much risk for the players that they should be compensated accordingly.

Sort of like combat pay.

If you put a rookie in the starting lineup they are much more likely to suffer injury than in other sports so they are taking as big a gamble as the owner for paying them.

rbedgood

03-31-2008, 03:26 PM

I understand Guru's point, I'm arguing that the NFL shouldn't have a cap on rookies salaries because the nature of the game involves so much risk for the players that they should be compensated accordingly.

Sort of like combat pay.

If you put a rookie in the starting lineup they are much more likely to suffer injury than in other sports so they are taking as big a gamble as the owner for paying them.

Again my solution of incentive based pay for rookies solves this...they should get paid if they start (pay for production) however the idea of rookies getting more than most of the veterans is the part Guru and I are taking issue with.

royalswin100games

03-31-2008, 03:27 PM

Again my solution of incentive based pay for rookies solves this...they should get paid if they start (pay for production) however the idea of rookies getting more than most of the veterans is the part Guru and I are taking issue with.

Agreed.

hermhater

03-31-2008, 03:31 PM

Again my solution of incentive based pay for rookies solves this...they should get paid if they start (pay for production) however the idea of rookies getting more than most of the veterans is the part Guru and I are taking issue with.

That works for me.

If they don't play then they aren't gonna get injured (at least on the field0 and will have the ability to prove themselves.

Does that mean we can't get fired up for the draft though?

royalswin100games

03-31-2008, 03:36 PM

That works for me.

If they don't play then they aren't gonna get injured (at least on the field0 and will have the ability to prove themselves.

No, for you see I am colored blind and too stupid to notice the Chiefs logo on the sides. :rolleyes:

hermhater

04-01-2008, 05:50 AM

No, for you see I am colored blind and too stupid to notice the Chiefs logo on the sides. :rolleyes:

Lasik.

Chiefster

04-01-2008, 05:51 AM

Lasik.

Meh, too old.

AkChief49

04-01-2008, 05:55 AM

I understand Guru's point, I'm arguing that the NFL shouldn't have a cap on rookies salaries because the nature of the game involves so much risk for the players that they should be compensated accordingly.

Sort of like combat pay.

If you put a rookie in the starting lineup they are much more likely to suffer injury than in other sports so they are taking as big a gamble as the owner for paying them.No one is putting a gun to their head to play the game. To give these guys a ton of money in the dark kind of defeats the purpose for a team with the high first picks. I agree the higher you go the more you should get, but 30 mil. for the 1st pick??? It's crazy

Canada

04-01-2008, 08:56 AM

I understand Guru's point, I'm arguing that the NFL shouldn't have a cap on rookies salaries because the nature of the game involves so much risk for the players that they should be compensated accordingly.

Sort of like combat pay.

If you put a rookie in the starting lineup they are much more likely to suffer injury than in other sports so they are taking as big a gamble as the owner for paying them.

Any one can suffer an injury and end their career early. If this is that much of a concern to them they should get a desk job or play baseball.

royalswin100games

04-01-2008, 10:51 AM

Any one can suffer an injury and end their career early. If this is that much of a concern to them they should get a desk job or play baseball.

You makin' fun of me? :D

Canada

04-01-2008, 11:26 AM

You makin' fun of me? :D

No, HH said there is a higher risk of injury in football than other sports. (which I dont agree with)

rbedgood

04-01-2008, 12:14 PM

No, HH said there is a higher risk of injury in football than other sports. (which I dont agree with)

If they don't want that risk, learn to kick the ball. Herm will select you, give you a signing bonus and then cut you so another team can give you another contract. Kickers have it made.

hermhater

04-01-2008, 03:49 PM

No, HH said there is a higher risk of injury in football than other sports. (which I dont agree with)

What other sport has an injury occurrence rate, and severity of injury as high as the NFL?

royalswin100games

04-01-2008, 03:55 PM

What other sport has an injury occurrence rate, and severity of injury as high as the NFL?

I know concussion and facial injury is frequent in the NHL.

Rugby is pretty nasty.

Good luck finding those stats buddy. :D

hermhater

04-01-2008, 03:58 PM

I know concussion and facial injury is frequent in the NHL.

Rugby is pretty nasty.

Good luck finding those stats buddy. :D

I'll let rbedgood do that for me.

I will sit in ignorance and proclaim my opinions as fact!

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Canada

04-01-2008, 04:09 PM

Hockey, rugby, Aussie Rules football, boxing, MMA...the list goes on. An anchilles tear is career ending for a runner. Every sport has risks involved. Try being 7 feet tall and rolling your ankle. Hell...get two guys your height and the three of you would be 7 feet tall!! :P

hermhater

04-01-2008, 04:12 PM

Hockey, rugby, Aussie Rules football, boxing, MMA...the list goes on. An anchilles tear is career ending for a runner. Every sport has risks involved. Try being 7 feet tall and rolling your ankle. Hell...get two guys your height and the three of you would be 7 feet tall!! :P

The one stat I do know you got wrong there buddy is MMA.

About 99% of the injuries in that sport occur during training, and there aren't that many in the first place!

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Canada

04-01-2008, 04:21 PM

yeah, i'm sure they report all the concussions. I am just saying that the risk of injury is in every sport. how do you figure football is above all the rest?

hermhater

04-01-2008, 04:26 PM

yeah, i'm sure they report all the concussions. I am just saying that the risk of injury is in every sport. how do you figure football is above all the rest?

Because of the nature of the game.

The speed and power that the game is played with huge guys crashing into each other at top speed, just lends itself to severe injury.

Canada

04-01-2008, 04:27 PM

watch a hockey game

hermhater

04-01-2008, 04:31 PM

watch a hockey game

Getting your teeth knocked out doesn't stop you from playing the game.

Those nasty throat cuts are bad injuries, but as long as the dumbasses don't hit each other with their sticks they aren't injured that often (I'm just guessing, I have no idea:biggrin:).

When they get checked they always seem to hop back up and ask for more!

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Canada

04-01-2008, 04:32 PM

Getting your teeth knocked out doesn't stop you from playing the game.

Those nasty throat cuts are bad injuries, but as long as the dumbasses don't hit each other with their sticks they aren't injured that often (I'm just guessing, I have no idea:biggrin:).

When they get checked they always seem to hop back up and ask for more!

:bananen_smilies046:

I guess Canadians are just tougher!! :bananen_smilies046:

hermhater

04-01-2008, 04:34 PM

I guess Canadians are just tougher!! :bananen_smilies046:

YouTube - Monty Python's Lumberjack Song

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Canada

04-01-2008, 04:40 PM

Kepp an eye out for Canada beating up HH...coming soon to youtube

hermhater

04-01-2008, 04:48 PM

Kepp an eye out for Canada beating up HH...coming soon to youtube

YouTube - that wat happens when you fight a big guy

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Canada

04-01-2008, 04:55 PM

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2008/04/6.jpg

hermhater

04-01-2008, 05:08 PM

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2008/04/6.jpg

Which one's me?

:bananen_smilies046:

Canada

04-02-2008, 11:36 AM

I will give you three guesses and one hint.

Hint: Your hands are not visible in the picture

hermhater

04-02-2008, 01:38 PM

I will give you three guesses and one hint.

Hint: Your hands are not visible in the picture

Thought so, cuz that guy is hitting like a sissy!

:bananen_smilies046:

Canada

04-02-2008, 02:07 PM

Thought so, cuz that guy is hitting like a sissy!

:bananen_smilies046:

They actually paid the guy who took that punch $25 a shot. They wanted to get it just right. Can I punch you for $25 a shot?

hermhater

04-02-2008, 02:31 PM

They actually paid the guy who took that punch $25 a shot. They wanted to get it just right. Can I punch you for $25 a shot?

No.

:bananen_smilies046:

Canada

04-02-2008, 02:32 PM

No.

:bananen_smilies046:

Fine then, free shots to HH's head!!

Chiefster

04-02-2008, 09:39 PM

Which one's me?

:bananen_smilies046:

If you have to ask then you're still in a coma.

hermhater

04-03-2008, 12:27 AM

If you have to ask then you're still in a coma.

You don't want none of this Chiefster!

I'll break your hand with my face!

:bananen_smilies046:

tornadospotter

04-03-2008, 01:14 AM

"We need to get fired up for the draft!" - hermhater

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2008/03/136.jpg

:bananen_smilies046:
Bring on the RED AN GOLD STORM!!!!!!!!!
GO CHIEFS!!!!!!