When we start seeing actual footage of hundreds or a thousand of these things patrolling the border, then i'll believe thats what they're being used for.

Oh really? Because you ****ing morons have no trouble believing that they're being used against Christians in Republican voting districts as we speak without any evidence except a right-wing blog's bullshit.

Oh really? Because you ****ing morons have no trouble believing that they're being used against Christians in Republican voting districts as we speak without any evidence except a right-wing blog's bullshit.

I havent seen anything about them being used against christians, nor would i believe it to be true... so leave me out of that one.

But the basic fact remains the same, government is out of control... Obama isnt just maintaining the status quo on all of these agencies Bush got started, he's expanding them. Its unneccessary and soaking up untold amounts of money.

I havent seen anything about them being used against christians, nor would i believe it to be true... so leave me out of that one.

But the basic fact remains the same, government is out of control... Obama isnt just maintaining the status quo on all of these agencies Bush got started, he's expanding them. Its unneccessary and soaking up untold amounts of money.

Do you see where the Survivalist blog makes the jump? Their argument is roughly:

P1: Navistar makes vehicles for military (Navistar report)
P2: Military is drawing down troops in Afghanistan (general knowledge)
P3: Homeland Security is buying the vehicles from military (unsourced)
C: These tanks are going to be used on American streets against citizens

Iím not sure what you think youíve got with the bolded. Itís company reporting on trade shows.
I have made no inference as to the intended use of these vehicles but since we can now acknowledge that DHS is indeed buying them I think the expense of it and their intended use are legitimate topics of discussion.

Oh really? Because you ****ing morons have no trouble believing that they're being used against Christians in Republican voting districts as we speak without any evidence except a right-wing blog's bullshit.

Has scott free posted thatís what theyíre for?
Maybe you should check who youíre responding too before flying off the handle with the jackass routine.

I havent seen anything about them being used against christians, nor would i believe it to be true... so leave me out of that one.

But the basic fact remains the same, government is out of control... Obama isnt just maintaining the status quo on all of these agencies Bush got started, he's expanding them. Its unneccessary and soaking up untold amounts of money.

Itís just a WAG on my part but each one of those vehicles probably cost in the hundreds of thousands.

Well, BuckEyedPsycho posted a video of an officer being interviewed discussing them so I think itís safe to say some have been purchased. The 2700 order hasnít been verified that I know of though.

So what people are all upset about is that in a drug and violence infested part of the country next to the Mexican border, they have purchased at least one armored vehicle for serving high risk warrants? Do people realize what's going on down there on a daily basis?