for the longest time, I've rattled on in my HC Unit-conceptual way that, "Big Bang never happened. The universe isn't expanding. Large red-shifted light is not Receeding Light but TIRED LIGHT i.e. light that's shifted into the microwave over the aeons that it's been travelling towards our detectors." I still don't know if I'm right or wrong, but...

Red shift is the series of lines in a star's light spectrum by which its distance is quesstimated.

I just got into an online conversation with Wal Thornhill of the Thunderbolts Project (The Electric Universe People) and he genially put up with my HC Unit 'tired light' pestering questions for a few rounds before referencing the work of Halton Arp to conclude that, with relation to (high red-shift) Quasars, "It's simply assumed that high-redshift equates to distance. Halton Arp showed this is not so. It's an indicator of youthfulness, not distance." this ineresting link Wal shared with me is about Plasma Redshift.

Halton Arp (who died in 2013) was sacked from forced to resign from his position at the Carnegie Insitute for his beliefs about this radical source of red shift. Big Bang theory says, "The greater the red shift i.e. dimmer the object, the greater the speed of recession of the source in an Expanding Universe." Halton Arp's eventually-condensing high-red-shift proto-quasars at the edges of spiral galactic arms suggest that red shift can't be trusted...

Look, the initial video I sourced was infathomable (and probably quite boring) to those readers of Free Planet who had no technical knowledge of cosmological terminology, the one above is a lot more Free Planet-reader friendly.

Summary: if red-shift is attached to a PLASMATIC UNIVERSE and reduces when that plasma condenses to matter, then we can't use red-shift to determine the distance to these stars in these galaxies. Stars and planets condense from these extra-galactic eruptions or Quasars. As their higher red-shifts relate to younger galaxies i.e. aren't tied to Expanding Universe, the stars and galaxies might not be as far as we currently believe.

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