The first few years of snowkiting that I did in UT was on flat ground just like your video. Skyline and Strawberry were unknown at that time. It still was a lot of fun riding the flats and plenty of riders out west stick to the flats as well. Of course, Skyline and Strawberry are amazing, but some flat riding prepares you for the mountains. I still like teaching people on frozen, snow-covered lakes

A few tips to shake it up:

Fly a bigger kite, you were riding underpowered. You don't need a kicker if you have ample power in the kite. Try a pair of snow blades. They are great for working on multiple rotations.Skis will actually give you the ability to boost higher off of flat surfaces

Sweet urban kiting. We used to look for flats to kite. Here in Jackson, Wy the flats are far and few between. Anything flat is private or reserved for the wildlife. We'd drive an hour past all the perfect looking kiting that's protected and go up to gusty wind at Togwotee flats where we'd get skunked half the time.

I've always thought you could do some cool vid stuff with a city in the background and such. Find some rails, I saw a picnic table out there, there's probably lots of unique things you can do with a sweet park like that if you're creative. It looks convenient too. Lot's of my spots are sled access or ski access. It'll be a days adventure just to get there and hope the wind is good. A nice park like that to kite, go across the street to grap some coffee when you're tired, you probably got some great waterkiting too...The cup is half full...

Saul or Knewschool or anyone for that matter needs to make the 4.5 hour drive from Cleveland and check out the Hillbilly. Been ridin' here since the holidays with some nasty, rainy breaks that makes for great kayakin' and provides us with a big, narly, frozen base that gets lake effect snow on it. Even got hills to practice on for when you head west. These pics are yesterday. Corn today and rain tonite! JR

:bye: Saul or Knewschool or anyone for that matter needs to make the 4.5 hour drive from Cleveland and check out the Hillbilly. Been ridin' here since the holidays with some nasty, rainy breaks that makes for great kayakin' and provides us with a big, narly, frozen base that gets lake effect snow on it. Even got hills to practice on for when you head west. These pics are yesterday. Corn today and rain tonite! JR

Exactly what Hillbilly are you talking about? You mean Tug Hill? I was there once for the last Kite Rally. Probably would have had a better time if there had been SW winds instead of SE. The locations for W winds looked better.

Instead, I'm planning on going the other direction to Houghton Lake in Michigan. Watching the wind forecast for next weekend.

Sweet urban kiting. We used to look for flats to kite. Here in Jackson, Wy the flats are far and few between. Anything flat is private or reserved for the wildlife. We'd drive an hour past all the perfect looking kiting that's protected and go up to gusty wind at Togwotee flats where we'd get skunked half the time.

I've always thought you could do some cool vid stuff with a city in the background and such. Find some rails, I saw a picnic table out there, there's probably lots of unique things you can do with a sweet park like that if you're creative. It looks convenient too. Lot's of my spots are sled access or ski access. It'll be a days adventure just to get there and hope the wind is good. A nice park like that to kite, go across the street to grap some coffee when you're tired, you probably got some great waterkiting too...The cup is half full...

You are right. The cup is half full. We rarely get the good snow and wind at the same time, but when the planets align, it can be pretty good. Almost everything you said is true. We can do both, snow and water kiting, sometimes on the same day:

Joel even hit some picnic tables as rails. Didn't seem like a good idea to me.

But there is nothing across the street to get coffee. Its just the freeway, then a semi industrial area.

By the Hillbilly I am refering to West Virginia. Much closer then Tug Hill and better terrain. We even have some frozen lakes like High Pt Lake in SW Pennsylvania. Conditions are starting to get bad now. No snow on the fields I ride on now but one good snow event and we are back. I ride on mowed hay fields. The landowners get their last cutting in the fall and leave a smooth grassy service. Does not take much snow. I also ride down south in the Sinks of Gandy which is more like out west. Bigger hills and wind lips provide great features. Capt Argh and Spleft have made the trip up from DC. I am only 4.5 hours from the Cleveland area and would love to have you join me for a day. JR

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