Check out the Apocalypto trailer at Apple movies. The leering spectators for the human sacrifice (folks in the white powder are the sacrifice) are creepy as all get out. The music in the trailer is amazing. More subtitles though...you'll get to practice your Mayan.

I say both. (It is after all arfcom moto to "get both") He is a good psycho charactor with his shifty eyes, but he also does good work as a director. I had never heard one way or another if he is pro or anti gun. Someone really needs to find that out.

**Never argue with an idiot. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.**

Originally Posted By Makarov_Mami:Ummm... I missed the "I'd hit it" option on the poll...

Out of my head!!!!<grumbling>Gonna start charging rent for all that space between my ears people keep climbing into!

Your argument is weak. Come back when you've something witty to say-Gravity_testerNothing like kicking death in the junk and calling his momma fat-Gravity TesterIt's good to know who hates you, and it's good to be hated by the right people.

Originally Posted By MrsWildweasel:He had come out and said I believe when he was making Lethal Weapon 3 that he was anti gun at that time during an interview.

Without a quote, I call false. All the anti-gun crap in the Lethal Weapon series of movies is the brainchild of director Richard Donner, a known anti. You will see it in other RD movies as well.

A quick search of Google Groups gives me lots of fighting about whether or not Gibson is anti-gun. Quotes have been provided about him saying he owns guns, shoots, and even takes his kids to the range regularly.

I used to think he was anti-gun, and was pretty pissed that he made a movie like "The Patriot." Looks like I might have been wrong about it.

Originally Posted By MrsWildweasel:He had come out and said I believe when he was making Lethal Weapon 3 that he was anti gun at that time during an interview.

Without a quote, I call false. All the anti-gun crap in the Lethal Weapon series of movies is the brainchild of director Richard Donner, a known anti. You will see it in other RD movies as well.

A quick search of Google Groups gives me lots of fighting about whether or not Gibson is anti-gun. Quotes have been provided about him saying he owns guns, shoots, and even takes his kids to the range regularly.

I used to think he was anti-gun, and was pretty pissed that he made a movie like "The Patriot." Looks like I might have been wrong about it.

FTR? He coulda been then and changed his mind, no???

I mean...maybe he realized the error of his ways???

Your argument is weak. Come back when you've something witty to say-Gravity_testerNothing like kicking death in the junk and calling his momma fat-Gravity TesterIt's good to know who hates you, and it's good to be hated by the right people.

"The Patriot," a Revolutionary War period piece starring Mel Gibson, is set to open and apparently there's a scene in the movie where Gibson's character takes two smoothbore muskets out of a chest and gives them to his sons, aged 13 and 10. The kids go off into the woods with their father and proceed to ambush British Redcoats, who are holding another brother prisoner. They manage to kill more than a dozen men.

Matt Drudge reports that, during a screening last week in Los Angeles, there were gasps in the audience. Shock! Horror! Young men taking up arms in defense of their country!

Gibson is defending the scene. He said he'd let his kids take up weapons in self-defense, and that he's taken them to shooting ranges.

Doesn't Gibson know that it's taboo to be pro-gun in Hollywood? Hell, you're not even supposed to use the words "children" and "guns" in the same sentence unless you're pushing for legislation that keeps the two far away from each other. Because, as the anti-gun lobby has taught us, guns have the capacity to transform ordinary people into bloodthirsty criminals.

Mel Gibson's "Sexiest Man Alive" title may not mean much to me, but he just earned a whole lotta brownie points in my book.

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In my 21 years as editor of MUZZLELOADER, I've written very few editorials. I've always figured that my views are pretty well understood on the basis of what kind of material appears in MUZZLELOADER. However since there is a debate occurring in our pages concerning Mel Gibson, the movie The Patriot, and gun control, and since we do have an article by Mark Baker about training Gibson in this issue (July/August 2000), I rekon it is time to explain my views.

We have received notice from a couple of subscribers that they will cancel their subscriptions if an article about Gibson appears in MUZZLELOADER. They have heard that Gibson is an anti-gunner, and they believe that we shouldn't support anti-gun proponents. I can understand their sentiments, but I don't know the basis for their claim. I checked the NRA's list of anti-gun celebrities on their web site, and Gibson is not listed. I have talked to Mark Baker and Frank House, who trained Gibson in using the rifle that Frank built for The Patriot, and neither detected any anti-gun bias on Gibson's part.

Then, late last week, a member of our staff saw an article on Gibson in a magazine on the newstand. I'll quote here from page 63 of the May 29, 2000, issue of US Weekly, ". . .Gibson, a staunch believer in the right to bear arms, has taught his own children how to use guns."

I apologize to Mel Gibson for publishing a letter that accused him of being anti-gun without checking the facts. We will be more cautious in the future when it comes to the letters that we publish. Readers, I urge you to take care when attributing beliefs or attaching labels to public figures.

Your argument is weak. Come back when you've something witty to say-Gravity_testerNothing like kicking death in the junk and calling his momma fat-Gravity TesterIt's good to know who hates you, and it's good to be hated by the right people.