I can agree with ZL and Sakura on this. And it's not really boring or annoying that people ask the same question over and over again. Some people are just coming to this forum to find out when the game is out, they don't want to spend 5 minutes(though its probably a minute) looking for an existing thread about the release date. They just want to make their thread, have someone reply and leave with the answer.

Besides I have to put up with people making threads in the Brawl forum looking for matches when they miss the link at the top for the sub-forum!

I don't get why it's bad to answer someone's question in person, DA. To be honest, I'd just put it up to cut off the chances of people responding rudely to look at the top of the forum when they do make those threads. I think it's a bad idea. Let them make the threads and let people answer. Answer in a friendly fashion. Someone might decide to stick around.

I also found it funny how you make a reference to Sakura not moderating for a while, when you last moderated in April. I don't really get how you can say something won't work for Sakura because things have changed since she last modded, while referring to a decision you made in your only mod position, compared to her 22 forum positions, almost all of which were exceedingly active. =P

I'm speaking more from the fact it's just a waste of time for everyone involved, not that it is bad to answer a question at all as I always do so in a most thorough manner as I can manage.

Questions about the game and release dates are two different things. Furthermore, I never stated the threads need to be "forbidden", I seem to have words being put in my mouth by other people here.

My point is I'm making a suggestion to help the forum run more smoothly. I'm just a bit frustrated that my ideas to help this forum get bumped off and instead nothing done, not productive. I mean I see nothing being done to try and help these people that ask about the release dates other than answering the thread each time it pops up. Why not implement my idea if nothing is being done with the header at the moment? Isn't going to kill anyone.

And I never did Mish, I moderated after release so I never had to put the dates up. Unless you're talking about some other example I made.

I refuse to except everyone is so stupid and that my ideas are so easy to just glaze over.

No one is wasting their time answering these threads, because if they were, they'd might as well log off and go outside. We're also not putting words in your mouth at all, and no one in here said anything remotely to "forbidden" except Sakura, and that's probably because there was a lack for a better term.

You've only made three suggestions, how can you get frustrated about us "bumping off" your ideas when 2 of them are completely optional and hardly worth mentioning at the current state of the forum, and the third, was just an invitation for you to help with the forum coding for the Theme. You make it seem like you've made about 20 suggestions, and we're just telling you no half the time. Quit exaggerating.

Look, instead of focusing on something so trivial, so small, why not broaden up that suggestion, like say, a Header Competition? This way, your hotshot idea can actually be put into consideration because now Sakura will be forced to update the Header. See where I'm getting at? Hell, if you even run this thing, you can put to add the expected release date as a guideline.

With that in mind, let's have a Header Contest, I'd love to run it. It can spike up some activity. It can even pass the time, and since now we have more artwork, Graphics Designers will have something better to work with.

Well I organised a Header/Footer contest ages ago since I've been trying to do a load of things in here. Each of my posts of suggestions has included at least 4 in each, so I've done way more than just three suggestions.

There'd be no point running another, as I literally just held the last. Unless you mean the style underneath with the links and stuff.

I don't exaggerate or exacerbate or any of the long "ex" words. If my ideas are going to be shot down such as the putting a few release dates in the header, when there's nothing in there anyway and it could benefit some people, then this place is going to the dogs and I don't care about saying that to be honest.

DA Edit: Look sorry if I seem to be coming off as rude. I have home and school to tend to at the moment, not to mention my own depression problems. As far as I can see though I'm making suggestions and can't see any reason not to try them out at the very least. It's progression, instead of being stagnant. So yeah, sorry if I am being upfront or rude or whatever, doesn't seem it to me though.

Each of my posts of suggestions has included at least 4 in each, so I've done way more than just three suggestions.

I don't exaggerate or exacerbate or any of the long "ex" words. If my ideas are going to be shot down such as the putting a few release dates in the header, when there's nothing in there anyway and it could benefit some people, then this place is going to the dogs and I don't care about saying that to be honest.

4 is not way more than 3 DA. Just one more.

And lots of peoples ideas get down. Not necessarily in this forum but in general. It happens. Some of them are for the best and some aren't. Putting the release date in the header is optional and it won't get everybodies attention who is looking for a release date. Like I said previously, some people just come to the forum to make a thread and get their question answered.

And we all have different views. You feel that your ideas will make the place run smoothly and it may be true but in my eyes, the forum is already running smoothly and productive.

Why is it that a trainer card contest is allowed, yet a simple idea like putting a date in the header gets everybody in uproar? The header suggestion is a VERY simple suggestion, and it can practically serve as a countdown, who cares who ignores it? That's a small suggestion. It's worth considering. It's not worth both sides putting 5 tampons up because somebody says no.

As for the trainer card contest...why? Seriously. Another way to tell people how inferior they are and how the tiniest details let the whole card down in the eyes of the judge, who has established that they are better than everyone else? Oh yeah. That's a great addition to the forum. Aren't there enough of those already?

Have you actually thought about that it actually brings activity to the forum? Probably even get some new people to join, or get to know each other. Putting up the temporary US Release Date on the Header doesn't do that.

However, there's one thing I don't get. You make it sound as though putting the release date in the header is going to drive people away. True, if people come here just to ask when it's released and just see it in the header, they aren't going to post. But I'm going to assume that when you say the forum needs activity, you mean regular activity; 5 threads per week about the same thing, isn't activity. I just don't understand why it's such a bad thing.

I think it might actually to have a countdown in the header once we know an actual release date; it might get people more excited about getting the game. I don't think it really makes a difference now, though, with only a rough estimate.

I don't see what's wrong with the Trainer Card Contest. Like ZL said, it could probably bring more people to the forum.

Release DateI am not going to put it up there now. There's no point to it, and it creates people, like Mish said, that reply to any threads that are made with "LOOK AT THE TOP OF THE FORUM!!!!!!!!", which isn't very friendly. I like Stormy's idea however. Once the release date is announced, I think some sort of count down would look really awesome and it would be a lot of fun. ^__^

Header ContestWe got a header three months ago (early July/Late June), so if a contest lasted a month, we would have had our current header up for four months. I think that's a good amount of time. With that being said, ZL will probably be running it, so I have PMed him about it.

Trainer Card ContestWhy? Because it's fun. If people enjoy doing something in the forums, and it's not all spammy, then I think that they should be able to do it. It helps build the community too. The contest looks great and really well organized, and I am glad that it's in the Soul Silver forum. =)

However, there's one thing I don't get. You make it sound as though putting the release date in the header is going to drive people away.

I never said that nor even implied it. You must've been misreading my posts. What I was saying was, that even if we put a release date on the header, people would still insist on making a thread a bout the release date, asking when it's coming out.

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True, if people come here just to ask when it's released and just see it in the header, they aren't going to post.

Obviously, but you seem to miss the point. When a new member comes here, and visits a forum, the last thing they'll look at is, stuff on the header, the rules of the forum, or even small guidelines the Moderator has put up, updates, anything that seems slightly important. The reason they do this is because it's not on their best interest. If a newcomer wants to ask a question, the first thing that'll come to mind is finding the "Create Thread" link and post away. The last thing on their minds is the details and vital information that the first page of the forum holds. Only way this won't happen is if, while they're scrolling down to get to the Create Thread link, they actually manage to see a thread that's similar to their interest. Otherwise, they'll post away.

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But I'm going to assume that when you say the forum needs activity, you mean regular activity; 5 threads per week about the same thing, isn't activity. I just don't understand why it's such a bad thing.

As far as I'm aware, with the forum at it's current state, that is activity. And no one has said it was a bad thing at all.