It's about that time of the year again! Nothing too much is being said at this point, but in no time things should be heating up. So y'all know the drill, use this for some 2018 rumors and thoughts. Of course we got the joker in 2017, so it may be interesting to see what 2018 will have to offer!

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* Zamperla Discovery replacing Yankee Clipper leaving V2 alone. A Chance Revolution - the permanent model for the KMG Afterburner / KMG Freak Out is what the park really needs. So many carnivals in IL have realized that people LOVE the KMG Afterburner / KMG Freak Out, yet Six Flags hasn't put one Chance Revolution in. Cedar Fair has though, and so has the Mall of America now. Carnivals that have a Freak Out or Afterburner in IL are Windy City Amusements, D&J Amusements, Modern Midways, Fantasy Amusements, Astro Amusements, All Star Amusements, Alpine Amusements, and than Rainbow Valley in Wisconsin. A video of a Chance Revolution / KMG Afterburner at Hersheypark: https://youtu.be/a_h07EJLk38?t=1m

The idea that just because you get a large flat with 50 people like a Zamperla Discovery / Max Air doesn't always mean that the waiting time won't be higher for each cycle. At Cedar Point, with their Max Air, it takes awhile to get that ride going. It's because you have more people to deal with - 50 people at a time. You can't expect a flat ride to go with 50 people in 30 seconds. It's not going to happen. That's what they say is the capacity for Max Air - 1000 for 1 hour lol That's not going to happen. Roller Coasters with 32 people, they can't even send them within a minute. Revolution at Great America which is a Huss Frisbee gets 40 people. No way does that ride take 30 seconds to go. It probably takes 2 minutes at least to load.

*S&S new version of Arrow Suspended coaster getting rid of Demon.

Than, there was a random person writing on wikipedia awhile ago about them adding another Sally ride (Amazing Ride of Gumball) in Orleans Place - bumper cars building I would say. They just did the roof of the bumper cars building last year. They can always extend the building of the bumper cars in back of it + the arcade. St. Louis, Over Texas, and now Over Georgia have taken out their bumper cars.

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Imagine going to a movie theater, and they start allowing people in at 12pm to a movie that started at 12pm with maybe a 100 people in line. So many FURIOUS people! Now, imagine going to an amusement park (Great America) where there are 600 people in line for that 12pm movie. I'm NOT saying to ride anything BEFORE 12pm though.

I think if the skycoaster left, that would be plenty for a giant discovery. And then revolution can leave for maybe a flying eagles ride, or maybe a skyscreamer. Idk if this is true, but I heard prices for the skycoaster are down compared to last year, so that could be a sign of removal coming soon

While I do enjoy Rue Le Dodge, that's probably one of the few spots we could squeeze in a Zamperla Giant Discovery without major modifications (ie. Joker)

Not 100% if this would work (Service road side-area might be affected a bit by the swing) but it'd be pretty cool.Name the Discovery "Kryptonite" (Like SFNE's Chance Wipeout) and the Skyscreamer "Wonder Woman: Lasso of Truth", and rename Orleans Place to Metropolis Park or something. Also give Superman that well-deserved re-paint

I think the Sky Screamer fad is on its way out. If the chain wanted GAm to have one, it would have already happened

I would not be surprised if it was just a water park attraction next year. I know in the past the park has mentioned that they had no intentions of a separate outside gate for HH, but I can foresee this happening in the near future.

To be honest, I wish they had never removed Sky Whirl to begin with. Not just from an emotional/nostalgic point of view, but from a financial one too! It would have cost substantially less to rehab Sky Whirl, rather then spending all that money on Deja Vu only to have it removed a few years later, and then purchasing a multi million dollar lawn ornament like Buccaneer Battle that barely get's any traffic. Who ever operate Buccaneer Battle at Great America has the easiest job at the Park, lol........ Hell if they did end up putting a Ferris Wheel in Buccaneer Battles plot of land, they could simply re-use the old Sky Whirl name!

To be honest, I wish they had never removed Sky Whirl to begin with. Not just from an emotional/nostalgic point of view, but from a financial one too! It would have cost substantially less to rehab Sky Whirl, rather then spending all that money on Deja Vu only to have it removed a few years later, and then purchasing a multi million dollar lawn ornament like Buccaneer Battle that barely get's any traffic. Who ever operate Buccaneer Battle at Great America has the easiest job at the Park, lol........ Hell if they did end up putting a Ferris Wheel in Buccaneer Battles plot of land, they could simply re-use the old Sky Whirl name!

You can only keep something alive for so long. Demon will eventually come to the same fate due to spare parts becoming harder to get. Arrow went down in 2002 and who knows how long S&S will support old Arrow coasters.

"I've been told that some part of every wish will be heard but lately I lost sight of the truth in those words."

Rue Le Dodge is "out of date" I suppose, but really just needs an upgrade like the bumper cars at Cedar Point. Those got a make over in 2016 (?).

A lot of people on this forum have said it, and I'll say it again. Demon is not going anywhere. It is a great starter ride for thrill seekers (and my first real roller coaster). The ride is not meant for us, it's a family thrill ride in today's world. If you're 6'+, there's no way it will be a comfortable ride for you.

There's not debating BB...

King Chaos reaches capacity pretty much every ride I've seen (~5 minute cycle). If people weren't going to it, it would have been removed by now (unless your name is Succaneer Battle).

Rue Le Dodge is "out of date" I suppose, but really just needs an upgrade like the bumper cars at Cedar Point. Those got a make over in 2016 (?).

A lot of people on this forum have said it, and I'll say it again. Demon is not going anywhere. It is a great starter ride for thrill seekers (and my first real roller coaster). The ride is not meant for us, it's a family thrill ride in today's world. If you're 6'+, there's no way it will be a comfortable ride for you.

There's not debating BB...

King Chaos reaches capacity pretty much every ride I've seen (~5 minute cycle). If people weren't going to it, it would have been removed by now (unless your name is Succaneer Battle).

So many kids go ouch, ouch my head / ears on the Demon. The Demon is obsolete when they built a way better ride across the way - Batman the Ride (Both have 2 loops / 2 corks, and Batman has an extra inversion). You just don't want it gone because of nostalgia. Demon is the new Iron Wolf in the park. When everything is crowded, go to the Demon. It's line is shorter than all the other coasters. A ride that is meant for families shouldn't beat up families. The height requirement is too low because a little kid's head can't go above the harness much.

I see these available spots that the park can go for in 2018, but they probably won't: Buccaneer Battle (They are too proud of that junk ride they put in), Trailblazer spot has been vacant for years, King Chaos, Pictorium (Move Susan to the Grand Music Hall mixed in with Love at First Fright), and Demon. If they take out Yankee Clipper, but keep Logger's Run only; that will mean that Logger's Run will be so much longer, and no one will still go on Buccaneer Battle. Sure, Logger's and Yankee are probably dying, but I say keep them as long as you can before they are completely dead (Even it's another 10 years - as long as possible), and figure out what other water ride to get to replace them. Having Buccaneer Battle as the replacement for them is stupid. That ride is dumb. No one wants to pelted in the face / eyes with water head on. You look at Roaring Rapids, and they have water cannons that are tilted in a way - not face on. On top of that, Buccaneer Battles water guns are too hard to use. You really have to turn them a lot in order to get the water out of them. They should had just people pushing a button to squirt water.

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Imagine going to a movie theater, and they start allowing people in at 12pm to a movie that started at 12pm with maybe a 100 people in line. So many FURIOUS people! Now, imagine going to an amusement park (Great America) where there are 600 people in line for that 12pm movie. I'm NOT saying to ride anything BEFORE 12pm though.

Rue Le Dodge is "out of date" I suppose, but really just needs an upgrade like the bumper cars at Cedar Point. Those got a make over in 2016 (?).

A lot of people on this forum have said it, and I'll say it again. Demon is not going anywhere. It is a great starter ride for thrill seekers (and my first real roller coaster). The ride is not meant for us, it's a family thrill ride in today's world. If you're 6'+, there's no way it will be a comfortable ride for you.

There's not debating BB...

King Chaos reaches capacity pretty much every ride I've seen (~5 minute cycle). If people weren't going to it, it would have been removed by now (unless your name is Succaneer Battle).

So many kids go ouch, ouch my head / ears on the Demon. The Demon is obsolete when they built a way better ride across the way - Batman the Ride (Both have 2 loops / 2 corks, and Batman has an extra inversion). You just don't want it gone because of nostalgia. Demon is the new Iron Wolf in the park. When everything is crowded, go to the Demon. It's line is shorter than all the other coasters. A ride that is meant for families shouldn't beat up families. The height requirement is too low because a little kid's head can't go above the harness much.

Which is why kids like it and adults don't. Heads that don't reach the top of tge harness don't get shoved into it.

Not going to lie, it seems Demon has actually got smoother recently. Last time I rode it before this month was 3 years ago, and I came off with a bad headache/bright red ear. I really didn't want to ride again but @Guy_With_A_Stick told me the correct way to ride and I gave it a try on June 10th and it was as smooth as Goliath.

The "Proper way" to ride Demon:

1. Sit in the back car2. Sit as tall as possible3. Keep your head as forward as humanely possible for the entirety of the ride

I would still support removing it, however. Any coaster where you need to follow a certain technique to not get beat up is not a good coaster

Edit: Spelling error

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