Comments on: Where Lane and Al went wronghttp://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2008/01/26/where-lane-and-al-went-wrong/
A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News GroupFri, 09 Dec 2016 15:20:00 +0000hourly1By: Goldiehttp://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2008/01/26/where-lane-and-al-went-wrong/comment-page-15/#comment-84187
Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:42:32 +0000http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2008/01/26/where-lane-and-al-went-wrong/#comment-84187No one knows what Lane implied in conversation with Al Davis behind closed doors.

Please stick to the delusional politcs of politics.

Raider fan longer than you’ve been alive.

]]>By: raiderholiczhttp://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2008/01/26/where-lane-and-al-went-wrong/comment-page-15/#comment-84186
Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:07:45 +0000http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2008/01/26/where-lane-and-al-went-wrong/#comment-84186Will someone please make Al take a psychiatric evaluation!He has tormented the raider nation for a long,long time.Letting Kiffin go would be equal to losing Jon Gruden all over again.And none of us die hards want to experience those emotions of anger we all felt when the nation lost “Chucky”.I think Al Davis enjoys watching the fans suffer in some sadistic way.If he really loved the “raidas” as much as he claims then he should do the right thing and step down.At the very least he can regain some of his respect back before his time runs out.And everyone but Al realizes TIME IS RUNNING OUT.He said he wants to see the raiders win two more super bowls,thats never going to happen with him at the helm!!!
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Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:05:49 +0000http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2008/01/26/where-lane-and-al-went-wrong/#comment-84185this sucks. the raiders and being a fan has been horrible since that blow out in the super bowl. what the hell?? this team will go nowhere until al davis is put in a nursing home.
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Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:44:54 +0000http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2008/01/26/where-lane-and-al-went-wrong/#comment-84184Some good points. Davis needs to take like 1,000 steps back and let the coach coach for once. If he keeps this up NO FA are going to want to go there when there is a new coach every other year. Davis needs to let the coaches draft and let the coaches coach!

The game has passed him by!………….I hope he stays for about 10 more years…..

]]>By: Charleshttp://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2008/01/26/where-lane-and-al-went-wrong/comment-page-15/#comment-84183
Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:52:49 +0000http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2008/01/26/where-lane-and-al-went-wrong/#comment-84183I’ve followed the Raiders since the Frank Youell Field days of Clem Daniels.

Al has been an icon. But frankly, now he is just…. a “has been”.

We long for the “greatness of the Raiders”… but look at what has led up to the present mailaise…. back to Al shunning Kenny Stabler; treating Marcus Allen the way he did… and up to the present with Jerry Porter and all the mess in the locker room.

Even more telling is the drafting protocols. We’ve had top choices for years and absolutely nothing to show for it. Mike Huff? We could have Lienart last year and a great receiver this year….

I’m shocked at Al dumping on Lane Kiffen.

We’ll all vote with the dollars….and quite frankly, I still enjoy the tailgate parties, but we’ve trimmed down to 2 games per year and will most likely not go to any games next year.

]]>By: Guerohttp://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2008/01/26/where-lane-and-al-went-wrong/comment-page-15/#comment-84182
Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:29:52 +0000http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2008/01/26/where-lane-and-al-went-wrong/#comment-84182Kiffin took the job with “conditions”, we all knew that (or you should have if you followed the story when he was hired). Al knew it too. To now say that Kiffin should just go along with Al, didn’t show him respect, etc is ridiculous. Does anyone want another bobble-head for a coach (see: bugel, white, etc), or another independent thinker (see: gruden)? I will take a coach who will get this team out of the funk it is in. Hmmm, wonder who got this team in this position? If that person thinks this roster is “stocked” with enough talent, that guy should get his walker on the sidelines and just be the damn coach then.
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Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:04:42 +0000http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2008/01/26/where-lane-and-al-went-wrong/#comment-84181Big Al’s GOON – You can blame all the coaches you want but what excuse do you have for Al Davis? He’s an owner who hasn’t won a Superbowl since 1983. How can you explain that? How can you defend that? You can bring up 2002 but you can’t even defend Al Davis for that as well.
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AL is an owner that has built one of the winningest franchises in pro sports up until the last few years. There are plenty of owners around the NFL who haven’t won a freak’in thing. The Chargettes, the Detroit Lion cubs, the Seahumps, Ariz., ATL., etc. Many things have occurred since that 1983 Championship. We have endured; players have been killed, Stacey Toran. Players have sustained freakish career ending injuries, Bo and Nap McCallum. Pro-bowl players have gotten addicted to drugs and eventually died in car crash. Players have lost their minds before the night before the Superbowl, B.Robbins. We have been cheated by the officials, Tuck Rule. We have been cheated by players from other teams, fat Goose of the Ravens. These are just some of the hardships the Raiders have had to endure since 1983. And you blame AL? I know we got blown out in the 2002 Superbowl, but the fact still remains we were there and along the way we picked a few AFC West titles and an AFC Conference Championship. How many teams can say that within the last 5 years?
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Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:19:49 +0000http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2008/01/26/where-lane-and-al-went-wrong/#comment-84180Shanahan…Gruden…Kiffin – where will it end? This is beyond ridiculous, even in a day when fan opinion seems to count for very little. How much more of this BS should the Nation put up with? Pick a coach and give him a chance, Al – your version of winning football has been out of date for a couple of decades – let go a bit so the Commitment to Excellence can try and make a comeback, or else the Raiders can have my season tickets back…I’ll join Darth Raider in retirement.
]]>By: clubb66http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2008/01/26/where-lane-and-al-went-wrong/comment-page-15/#comment-84179
Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:18:52 +0000http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2008/01/26/where-lane-and-al-went-wrong/#comment-84179When can this place start to have consistency. Move from installing new systems to tweaking based on future schedules. The ability to add new wrinkles not having to install systems.
How we expect to maximize and become effecient.
Tired of the land of Distractions. if we can learn anything this year, look at the focus of Patriot players. and organization.
]]>By: Raider Samhttp://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2008/01/26/where-lane-and-al-went-wrong/comment-page-15/#comment-84178
Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:55:25 +0000http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2008/01/26/where-lane-and-al-went-wrong/#comment-84178“The title should be “Where Al went wrong”.

No, both are to blame. Kiffin should have consulted with Al first, and was very heated following the San Diego game – he shouldve been far more circumspect and exercised the discretion to go to Davis with his suggestions about coaching changes. When he went to Ryan first, that was a mistake.