RobertBruce:InmanRoshi: Every libertarian utopia somehow revolves around people living off the land in some rural outpost. The trouble is commerce and capitalism encourages population density. I'd love to hear how libertarianism works in a condensed urban environment where 9 million people are forced to share a finite amount of resources and land.

Same as now, except without laws other than those that protect body and property.

A polluted shiathole full of untested and dangerous goods? Sounds like paradise.

Grand_Moff_Joseph:brnt00: BRONT TAKE CAVE WOMEN OUT FOR NICE MAMMOTH STEAK. MAN WHO BRING MAMMOTH STEAK DEMAND 20% MORE ROCKS THAN ORIGINAL ROCK PRICE. THIS STUPID SYSTEM. ELDERS SHOULD PAY LIVING ROCKWAGE.

HeartBurnKid:griffer: verbaltoxin: griffer: The level of discourse around here that constitutes 'political discourse' is finally truly exposed. What a bunch of inane babble. You are truly ignorant dicks.

DAG SAY LOOK OUT, WE DEAL WITH BAD ASS HERE!

Fark is a breeding ground for tiresome pedants.

No you are tiresome in this bizarre 'caveman' dialect which it actually a thinly disguised mockery of people with learning disabilities. Like a mental handicap black face. You should be proud.

It's funny he goes "It can never work" and then ignores that's the argument he is actually making.

But the other problem with his argument is the "Most" libertarian countries, also suck.

Here is the bullshiat:

A)

Non-Libertarian: Look these countries are the most "libertarian" in the world and they are shiatholes

Libertarian: OH! that's only because they are not LIBERTARIAN ENOUGH!

B)Non-Libertarian: Since no countries are "libertarian enough" doesn't mean that it's an impossible ideal?

Libertarian: No it's not it' just a goal.

You can't have it both ways!!

Either A) You can use countries that have weak central governments that are horrible as an example of Libertarian policesOr B) You can say the true ideals of libertarianism are too impossible to achieve in reality.

But what libertarians are trying to do is say some countries are "not libertarian enough" when you want to show how bad libertarianism policies are, but then when you want to show that libertarianism is an unworkable system the same countries magically become "libertarian enough".

If you think idealistic principals can't ever work in reality stop trying to farking make them reality then!!!

Ed Grubermann:RobertBruce: InmanRoshi: Every libertarian utopia somehow revolves around people living off the land in some rural outpost. The trouble is commerce and capitalism encourages population density. I'd love to hear how libertarianism works in a condensed urban environment where 9 million people are forced to share a finite amount of resources and land.

Same as now, except without laws other than those that protect body and property.

A polluted shiathole full of untested and dangerous goods? Sounds like paradise.

Kind of like now... or do you actually think the FDA is ethically run?

There's the ad hominem diversion I was waiting for. No need to evaluate and debate an idea when we can dismiss it because we don't like its proponents. Hitler was a vegetarian, so people who like lettuce are fascists, etc.