I really dislike the lockings with no explanation as well. The only thing we can deduce from them is "don't talk about this". Which is incredibly disappointing.

(there were no insults being flung in this last thread, so we can't really deduce "people weren't being excellent")

14-09-2013, 08:27 PM

Serenegoose

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Originally Posted by Faldrath

I really dislike the lockings with no explanation as well. The only thing we can deduce from them is "don't talk about this". Which is incredibly disappointing.

(there were no insults being flung in this last thread, so we can't really deduce "people weren't being excellent")

The only real conclusion to be drawn is that RPS wants to have a button at the top of its site that says 'forum' but does not in fact actually want a forum or a community. This is a burden that successful sites on the internet feel obligated to have, nothing more.

14-09-2013, 08:49 PM

Faldrath

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Originally Posted by Serenegoose

The only real conclusion to be drawn is that RPS wants to have a button at the top of its site that says 'forum' but does not in fact actually want a forum or a community. This is a burden that successful sites on the internet feel obligated to have, nothing more.

If you're right and what I said in my post in the locked thread is correct, this is a terrible missed opportunity.

14-09-2013, 08:53 PM

deano2099

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Originally Posted by Faldrath

I really dislike the lockings with no explanation as well. The only thing we can deduce from them is "don't talk about this". Which is incredibly disappointing.

And having four similar threads closed in the space of a few days just demonstrates how utterly stupid it is. Because if you identify what the problem behaviour is when you close the thread, someone will just open a new thread and (quite innocently) repeat it.

14-09-2013, 09:02 PM

MoLAoS

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Originally Posted by Anthile

gazed into the depths of r/redpill and similar places

Holy mother of god. I googled this and read like 2 posts before I couldn't go on. Its like an MRA site, but where they don't even pretend to care about father's rights.

14-09-2013, 09:06 PM

Nalano

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Originally Posted by deano2099

In terms of just making this forum nicer, it might work.

And Fascism creates very clean cities.

14-09-2013, 09:07 PM

Anthile

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Originally Posted by MoLAoS

Holy mother of god. I googled this and read like 2 posts before I couldn't go on. Its like an MRA site, but where they don't even pretend to care about father's rights.

I got that wrong, it's actually r/theredpill and they hate MRA. It's amazing in all the wrong ways.

14-09-2013, 09:13 PM

Nalano

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Originally Posted by Anthile

Also, I'm not quite sure what you mean by taking potshots. Being excellent is not about not disagreeing, it's about keep discussions civil.

Right, lesson learned: Oblique insults are the way to go.

Meanwhile, your answers to everything of import is "I don't know." So what use are you?

14-09-2013, 09:16 PM

gwathdring

Dear mods:

What the hell is our takeaway from all these closed threads supposed to be? Is this the wrong place to discuss meta-forum stuff? Are these topics no longer permitted? Talk to us or stay out of it.

14-09-2013, 09:22 PM

Anthile

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Originally Posted by Nalano

Right, lesson learned: Oblique insults are the way to go.

Meanwhile, your answers to everything of import is "I don't know." So what use are you?

I'm just a janitor. I never claimed to be anything else. I have a ring of keys but I don't get to make decisions. It never was about making decisions. It's about picking up cans.

14-09-2013, 09:33 PM

Nalano

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Originally Posted by Anthile

I'm just a janitor. I never claimed to be anything else. I have a ring of keys but I don't get to make decisions. It never was about making decisions. It's about picking up cans.

Here's what I see:

Jim has all the power, but doesn't pay attention to the forums or to inquiries by forum-goers.

The mods have no power, but get to suggest to Jim whether and how to apply his.

The mods tell me they have no clue why thing are going as they're going, except their actions have the most direct application to what's going on. It's a classic passing-the-buck scenario. You're not a janitor; you're a vizier.

14-09-2013, 09:44 PM

Anthile

That's preposterous. I don't have a turban or even a scepter shaped like a snake.

14-09-2013, 09:51 PM

gwathdring

If I give you two such accessories, would you be able to get back to me about why the threads were closed?

I'm sure you understand why it's so frustrating to be having an already difficult discussion about contentious matters and have it continually interrupted by closed threads without proper explanation as to why the thread was in violation of the rules. Even if you aren't in a position to do anything about it.

14-09-2013, 11:56 PM

tradaa

So which mod or member of staff is just closing all these threads with no reason? You get more feedback from primary school teachers.

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I was wondering about a method for rapid removal of problematic content. On another forum I use that has somewhat unique goals, there is a system where regular posters with a certain number of posts, among other requirements, are able to "white out" portions of posts containing problematic content. This allows for situations where mods simply aren't able to respond fast enough being less of an issue.

lmfao

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I also don't want a republic of prolific posters to rule the roost

Lying is bad

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I did not want the thread started during this time, MoLAoS, for a variety of reasons, among them that this is not primetime for this forum. As it stands, the discussion is being dominated by the same three people.

After that last quote this is hilarious, molaos listen to your master......

15-09-2013, 01:40 AM

soldant

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Originally Posted by gwathdring

What the hell is our takeaway from all these closed threads supposed to be?

3. No, really, it's possible to disagree without insults. Just don't do it.

You see capriciousness, I just see a man who thinks he's John Wayne and beyond the rules.

15-09-2013, 01:54 AM

Nalano

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Originally Posted by Kadayi

I can't help myself; hypocrisy and superciliousness is in my nature

You really need to get help, bro.

15-09-2013, 02:27 AM

Kadayi

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Originally Posted by Nalano

You really need to get help, bro.

1) I ain't your bro

2) And you really need to read the rules and realise they do apply to you. It's all very well for you to sound off ad infinitum & ad Nauseum about how terribad and reprehensible everything is from the Hivemind, the appointed mods, and whatever other grievance is bugging you about RPS this particular nanosecond, but plain truth of the matter is you're part of the problem because you're seemingly unwilling to adhere to some pretty simple site rules. If you're not prepared to toe the line, why do you expect everyone else to? You want a better forum? Then be a better role model.

Seriously, how many threads closed already...

*shakes head*

Belligerence is not working out for you tbh, so maybe its time to change the record.

15-09-2013, 03:55 AM

gwathdring

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Seriously, how many threads closed already...

*shakes head*

Belligerence is not working out for you tbh, so maybe its time to change the record.

Nalano's customary belligerence was utterly absent from a number of recently closed threads, and we've yet to have an explanation as to why several of them were closed.

15-09-2013, 06:07 AM

Nalano

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Originally Posted by Kadayi

1) I ain't your bro

2) And you really need to read the rules and realise they do apply to you. It's all very well for you to sound off ad infinitum & ad Nauseum about how terribad and reprehensible everything is from the Hivemind, the appointed mods, and whatever other grievance is bugging you about RPS this particular nanosecond, but plain truth of the matter is you're part of the problem because you're seemingly unwilling to adhere to some pretty simple site rules. If you're not prepared to toe the line, why do you expect everyone else to? You want a better forum? Then be a better role model.

Seriously, how many threads closed already...

*shakes head*

Belligerence is not working out for you tbh, so maybe its time to change the record.

Hate to say it, bro, but when the Great Equivocator sees through your statements, it's time to take a different tack.