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Yep note the reply I just made to Lindee in the general section! Also depending on age a puppy may well need to go outside at those points to wee/poop and that is why he is crying. Gradually they tend not to wake so early but these are babies and like small kids they tend to wake early. Make sure you are taking him out for a final wee and poop just before bedtime; also don't let the puppy fall asleep early in the evening and sleep all the way til when you are going to bed as this will cause him to wake too; he's had his sleep and is ready to play. Take up water for the last 2 hours or so before you go to bed so he isn;t filling his bladder.

If he is getting much older (like over 4-5 months) and still crying mid-of the night then you need to ignore it. If you are responding every time, even by going out to say no, he is getting the pay off of your attention for his behaviour. Just plug your ears and he'll stop trying to get your attention when you stop responding to his cries. You need to differentiate between whether he actually has a reason for crying (needing to go out) or is doing it to get you to play with him and visit him.

thanks for that karlin. but we figured out why Louie cries ; he wants to have human company! but if i sleep in a room downstairs and bring in his basket, he falls right to sleep and doesn't cry. Also during the night when we hear him crying and if we go into the kitchen (where he sleeps) we find he has done his "business" on the floor but we have to find out if it's because he is frightened of being alone in the dark or if he needs to go.

I dont thik he needs to go as i take him out before bedtime. But time will tell!!

I can't bring him out to his toilet area on a lead thought because his neck is too skinny for a puppy collar! But the vet told us to try a cat collar. And if i try to attach the lead and i succeed, he doesnt move around much so i'll have to get him used to walking

We always made sure that we had a really long playtime with Maxx before we went to bed, & we also left a radio on very quietly for him. We never had any problems with sleep and the only sleepless nights we had as a puppy were us worrying that he'd be OK! His 'breeder' also gave us a piece of Vetbed that had his Mum's smell on it - I'm sure that helped too.

We also used to confine him to the kitchen with his bed and a couple of cuddly toys. I think this helped as he wasn't roaming around the house wondering where we were. I'm not a lover of crates or cages and the only time Maxx ever goes in one is at the Vets or at the groomers (she has an enormous one) if we arrive early and she hasn't finished her last appointment.

Maxxs Mummy, did Maxx not cry at all? See Louie cries because he is lonely so i bring him (in his basket) into a room downstairs which i sleep in . I know it's not the best plan because he will get used to it but it's the only way i know to stop him crying.

I use a crate for Harry and i think they are great (if used correctly) Harry knows already that every morning when we get our coats on to go out that he has to go in his crate, and will do so on his own!
when i get back from dropping the kids off from the breakfast club i take him for a long walk (can't take him to breakfast club as a child there is allergic to animals ) then i drop him off at his "auntie's" house while i go to work.

He also sleeps in it at night, in my room i might add and we've never had any problems i have a cool pic of him asleep in his crate if you want to see it but can't get it on here...... again!

Louie is confined to the kitchen with his bed, a warm blanket, a hotwater bottle and cuddly toys but he still wants someone to be in the same room as him and as soon as he realises that you've left the room (at around 3.00 am i might add ) he cries and scratches at the door!! AHHH!!! lol

No I can honestly say. Maxx never cried I am a very light sleeper too so it's not that I slept through it!

Tbh, we've had more sleepless nights with him as an adult than we ever did as a pup. Now it's because a light is causing a shadow or there is a fox or a frog in the garden but he's always been a little angel at night.

We used to have GSD who was a pain in the butt at bedtime but as she was my hubby's dog I used to make him go settle her!