The Short Barreled Shotgun Picture Thread

I know you guys have got them.
It's time to bring them out of the woodwork.
Any shotgun, any at all, with a barrel under 18.5".
I wanna see them.
:D
(I loves me some NFA goodness)

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MCgunner

September 2, 2008, 08:21 PM

My gun's long. My wife enjoys it. :D

RaisedByWolves

September 3, 2008, 03:05 AM

Hi, New guy here!

This is a full 18.375", But its the best I got for this thread.

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6693/dsc02678gm3.jpg

A true 26"er.:neener:

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/3756/dsc02679ks0.jpg

Taurus44

September 3, 2008, 08:32 AM

870 Express 12ga w/11.5" barrel. I've got more in store for this one, but I just got the stamp back yesterday so it's only been "finished" for a little over 12 hours now. :D

http://www.xdtalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/870_sbs_full.jpg

Mp7

September 3, 2008, 08:56 AM

that 870 looks xactly like the gun everyone should have at home.

impressive, simple, perfect.

Subsonic

September 3, 2008, 09:26 AM

Taurus44,

I'm ignorant. How and why do you get "the stamp"? Who issues that sort of thing, and what is the cost? Is the stamp required for anything under 18"?

I'm betting that you don't live in IL or NY?

VERY nice looking shotgun, BTW......

Shoot safe, John

MCgunner

September 3, 2008, 10:30 AM

that 870 looks xactly like the gun everyone should have at home.

impressive, simple, perfect.

Actually, that better describes my coach gun. If I need a short barrel defense weapon, my 9mm, .38, .357, or .45ACP will do. A coach gun with 20 inch barrels and screw in chokes does double duty as a safe room gun/dove and teal blaster for me. :D Sure, the barrels are 20", but the receiver is a lot shorter than an 870s. And, with 20" barrels, it'll reach out there with a full choke if I need. Works best on doves with I/C/Mod, though. Sits in the bedroom with the Cyl/IC installed and the barrels stuffed with number 3 buck, but this weekend it does dove duty.:D Nothing like actually USING the gun you defend yourself with to get familiar with it. Doves are harder to hit than paper targets at 10 feet.

Subsonic, they're talking about a BATF license for a class three weapon. I have a buddy with a Cobray select fire 9mm and silencer. He had to license both at $200 a pop since both are class three devices. Since 1934, it has been illegal to own a "sawn off" shotgun without licensing it. It's federal law, not state. Licensing is through BATF and, of course, requires background checks and such. Takes a few monthos to get it.

iiibdsiil

September 3, 2008, 10:39 AM

Serbu Super Shorty

http://www.bdsperformance.com/temp/guns/allguns.JPG

http://www.bdsperformance.com/temp/guns/12gauge2.jpg

Taurus44

September 3, 2008, 10:40 AM

Taurus44,

I'm ignorant. How and why do you get "the stamp"? Who issues that sort of thing, and what is the cost? Is the stamp required for anything under 18"?

I'm betting that you don't live in IL or NY?

VERY nice looking shotgun, BTW......

Shoot safe, JohnIn order to own a shotgun with a barrel less than 18" (or any other NFA regulated item) you are required to pay the Department of Justice (BATFE) a $200 tax. You fill out a bunch of forms and send them in with a $200 check and wait for a long time (this one was 8 weeks, but I had one take 14 weeks). They eventually return the form to you with a $200 stamp affixed and that's when you can build or transfer your item.

You have to pay the tax on each item, every time. So if you want a suppressor, it's a $200 stamp. SBR (rifle with a barrel less than 16")? Another $200 stamp. The one exception to the rule is an AoW (pistol gripped shotgun with a barrel less than 18" like the Serbu pictured above). That is a $5 stamp to transfer, but if you build it yourself it is $200.

Confused yet? ;)

I live in Ohio. Luckily, we're still free here in the heartland!

http://www.xdtalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/the_shorties.jpg

Goblin

September 3, 2008, 04:29 PM

I call the one on the bottom in the pic "BamBam"
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q109/epstanton/gunroom011.jpg

Odd Job

September 3, 2008, 04:58 PM

I saw a single shot .410 pistol-type shotgun about 15 years ago, and I wanted one. I think it was a Boito.

I don't know what I would use it for, I just want it. Anyone have one of those or something similar?

It is a tritium XS Big Dot (http://www.xssights.com/store/shotgun.html).

PTK

September 6, 2008, 09:36 AM

I'll get pictures later, but... here's a video in the meantime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ngfMmMzGsQ

Rem 870 12" barrel, SpeedFeed stock and fore-end, 12ga, full power loads. She's a little bit of a recoil junkie.

Creade

September 6, 2008, 10:28 AM

Welcome Giggidy.
Great looking piece of hardware!

FIFTYGUY

September 6, 2008, 10:55 AM

Well, here's my SSS. Figured we needed a pic of the SKT holster:

http://members.aol.com/fiftyguy/Serbu_Super_Shorty_1.jpg

KaceCoyote

September 8, 2008, 03:02 AM

So if I decided I needed a 14" Shotgun with rifle sights and a full stock(no PG please), aside from the 5 dollar stamp how much would I need to spend? Are any of the 14" guns threaded for chokes?

prvtpyle

September 8, 2008, 04:02 AM

If you want a full stock and a short barrel, then the tax stamp is $200. An AOW (any other weapon) tax stamp is $5. An AOW has to have come straight from the manufacturer with a pistol grip.

Aka Zero

September 8, 2008, 04:08 AM

MMMM aow.

So if it comes out of the factory with a pistol grip, Can you put a stock on it later?

Serbu + stock = comic relief

Riss

September 8, 2008, 05:12 AM

IIRC an AOW can never have a full stock on it. A SBS though, can have any configuration. Pistol grip, full stock, short barrel, long barrel and any combination thereof. Hence the new Remington SBS kit, with about 4 barrels, 3 fore grips, pistol grip, 2 or 3 rear stocks for only $2500.

RyanM

September 8, 2008, 12:22 PM

A Serbu needs to be registered as an SBS to be able to legally put a stock on. You can buy them straight from Serbu, registered that way. If you have one that's an AOW, you would need to re-register it as an SBS, then engrave your name and city of residence on the receiver, since you're "manufacturing" a new SBS.

It'd make more sense to register and engrave a brand new receiver, given how little Mossbergs cost. It's also not possible to re-re-register an SBS into an AOW, if you want paperwork-free transport across state lines.

NonConformist

September 12, 2008, 09:35 PM

One day!

I want a 870 w/ a 14" barrel and the plus 1 extension!

:eek:

Leadhead

September 13, 2008, 02:31 AM

Here's a few more...

16inch

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/Candown/870-1911.jpg

14"

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/Candown/Grizz-Kaze.jpg

And a 12.5"

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/Candown/870P.jpg

Mike U.

September 13, 2008, 02:40 AM

Hey Leadhead,
Who made that Wak with your 14"er?

Very nice little collection you have there, BTW. I'm envious.

Leadhead

September 13, 2008, 02:58 AM

It's made by Cheness, I got it from these guys...

http://sbg-sword-store.sword-buyers-guide.com/kaze-ko.html

Mike U.

September 14, 2008, 12:42 AM

It's a fine looking weapon. Thanks for sharing it with us!

Youngster

September 14, 2008, 01:13 AM

I used to think that taking off a couple of inches off an already short barrelled shotgun was kind of pointless, until I got to handle a few and couldn't believe how much handier they seemed.

Sam1911

September 14, 2008, 09:47 AM

A friend of mine who is a LEO and 3-gunner has finally "perfected" his SBS after years of tweaking it. His Benelli now sports a ribbed 14" barrel and a stock shortened to about a 12" LOP so it works better for him in the square-on type stance he prefers in CQB type scenarios. For him the optimum barrel length is that which allows him to hold the gun in a normal firing grip and hold it pointed straight down beside his leg -- the muzzle clears the ground by about 2". For him, with that gun, a 14" barrel meets that standard -- which he says gives him a great advantage working around corners, barricades, and such.

Having shot it and watched him practice with it, that is one FAST shotgun! I'd though all autoloaders would work about the same, but that one just screams!

-Sam

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