We have many customers who are asking if we can install the roundcube mail client for them. It is much better then neomail, and would be a good replacement. Is there any chance we can get cpanel folks to consider this? Neomail is just about dead (hasn't had an update in years) and causes server problems, etc....

Thanks.

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Yes, I realize that we can install roundcube ourselves and modify the cpanel files ourselves, etc...

The point of this thread is to request that cpanel developers add roundcube instead of neomail. I see no point to continue with neomail, because it not only causes server problems, but it is obsolete software and is not compatible with the new maildir format, etc... it's just time before they remove it, so why not take care of it now when they can plan it out, rather then a sudden disappearance one day? Replacing with roundcube would be a step up, since it seems to be a very popular mail client.

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I would log an enhancement request in bugzilla (http://bugzilla.cpanel.net) concerning this. I would mention that guide that is referenced in the thread in the bugzilla entry. Then post the link for the Bugzilla entry back in this thread.

I agree, that is one of the better looking webmail clients. I would be a little concerned that its in beta, but still looks to be a nice webmail suite.

RoundCube has been on our servers for quite sometime now, since alpha, and we have many users that love RoundCube, I am shocked that they haven’t gotten out of the alpha-beta stage yet as I have seen this project for over a year now. I personal haven’t seen many issues with the beta version although the alpha versions were almost always buggy. – I’d start posting on RoundCube about how a “stable” release would boost the project's popularity.

Nick has said in the past that they'd consider a new webmail client replacement if somone logged a bugzilla entry and there was enough interest. However, he also said, IIRC, that they won't consider something in alpha/beta as it must be an established stable application.

However, he also said, IIRC, that they won't consider something in alpha/beta as it must be an established stable application.

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"Established stable" according to whom?

Many vendors mark their software as "stable", when it is far far far from being production ready. (Anyone tried the "new" modernbill software?)

And then there are other vendors who will leave their software in "beta" status forever, because after all... it's always in development, right? This is especially common when there is no financial incentive behind the software, such as the case with roundcube.

My feeling is that it will stay in beta forever, for this reason. It's like google and their "beta" system. If anyone faults the software, you can just say, "it's still beta". There is no reason to remove beta status from an open source project.

Anyway, if thousands of people are using the software successfully, then at some point I think it is the USERS who "decide" if it is establed stable or not. I'd rather rely on the experience of a thousand users, then the possibly arbitrary decision of a software company marketing person or developer who arbitrarily flips a switch from "beta" to "stable".

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After more than two years of development we finally released the first stable version of RoundCube Webmail. It's not as feature rich as we'd like it to be but the released version is considered to run stable for a productive environment. Thanks to our users we fixed many bugs and added some nice new features. So go ahead and upgrade your installations now.