Masonry is old, old. It is worldwide. Its history is
the history of the world. Its philosophy is the philosophy of all
ages. With not the slightest disrespect for the various other
fraternal orders,

That’s why you protect an Illuminati order

"I don't pretend to be the only Masonic illuminant," answered the
Old Tiler, "

A Masonic illuminant, how interesting.

"Suppose he wants to talk Masonic secrets with me?"
"No Mason wants to talk Masonic secrets with any man he doesn't
know to be a Mason! The man who wants to talk secrets, without
having sat in lodge with you, or being vouched for to you, is
either very new or a very poor Mason or no Mason at all!"

No Masonic secrets with any man

"Talk all the Masonry you want! But make sure it is the Masonic
talk you could utter in the presence of your wife. Your true
Mason won't want you to talk any other kind in public. Not long
ago I was on a train, and behind me two men, neither of them
Masons, arguing about Masonry. The things they knew which were
not so wonderful! But I never opened my mouth. And the conductor,
whom I have known for years as a Mason, heard them, and all he
did was wink at me.

"What about giving some sign or word in a mixed company, so I can
let the other fellows know I am a Mason?" asked the New Brother.
"Oh!" cried the Old Tiler. "You've been reading novels! You have
an idea that when you go to a card party you should wiggle your
ears or something, so that other Masons will know you are one,
too! Nothing to that! Masonic recognitions are not for pleasure,
but for need and use. You have been taught how to let others
know, if you need to. You know how to recognize a Mason when he
lets you know. But these are not for social gatherings, and the
man who lards his speech with Masonic expressions is merely
showing off."

The blue forget-me-not has been chosen as a symbol of Masonic
dedication and fidelity. It was born in the face of fates even
worse than death by faithful Master Masons of Germany after Hitler
gained control of the German government. The first organization he
proscribed was Freemasonry. Those Freemasons who would not renounce
their membership were condemned to concentration camps and/or
death. As it was foolhardy to reveal their membership, yet
anxious to keep the light of Freemasonry burning against
overwhelming odds, these faithful Craftsmen wore a little flower so
that a Brother Mason might know another. Because of this flower
the light of Freemasonry was kept alive in the midst of the Nazi
darkness.

If this is true then I take my words back and I’m sorry.
But if it is true then the rest above could be.

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Originally posted by Questioneverything
A truly secret society tries to hide the
fact that it exists, and certainly conceals the identity of its
members. Now that’s a description of the Illuminati.

"That's a description of the Illuminati"? How do you know that this is what the Illuminati does?!? Do you have proof that the Illuminati
actually does this?!? Or are you simply speculating, or using your imagination?!? This is the problem with people like you: you assume things,
then represent those assumptions as fact (then even proceed to make other assumptions based on those first assumptions, completely unsupported).

Originally posted by Questioneverything
There’s that word secret again

Yes, because Freemasonry has secrets. And? We make no qualms about this, and we always say that Freemasonry does indeed have secrets. It's not the
kinds of secrets that YOU think they are, though.

Masonry is old, old. It is worldwide. ...

That’s why you protect an Illuminati order

Please give me ONE example of Freemasonry protecting an "Illuminati order"? Nice try, but if you cant even prove that it exists, how can you accuse
anyone of protecting it? Your arguments are flawed, as usual.

"I don't pretend to be the only Masonic illuminant," answered the
Old Tiler, "

A Masonic illuminant, how interesting.

Masons seek light, this is where the word "Illumination" comes from. Do you always take ANYTHING that might seem to have the tiniest non-existant
reference to your speculations, and turn them into something nefarious and related to your bad assumptions? Why don't you stop being so damn ignorant
and realize that not everything is like what you so desperately want to believe.

"Suppose he wants to talk Masonic secrets with me?"
"No Mason wants to talk Masonic secrets with any man he doesn't
know to be a Mason!

No Masonic secrets with any man

What's wrong with this? If we masons have secrets, why should we discuss them with anyone else?

The blue forget-me-not has been chosen as a symbol of Masonic
dedication and fidelity. It was born in the face of fates even
worse than death by faithful Master Masons of Germany after Hitler
gained control of the German government. ...Because of this flower
the light of Freemasonry was kept alive in the midst of the Nazi
darkness.

If this is true then I take my words back and I’m sorry.
But if it is true then the rest above could be.

This is indeed true. This is why I have the forget-me-not as my avatar, and why I always wear a small forget-me-not pin to lodge.

As for the rest above being true, it absolutely is. Again, I fail to see what is so bad about this.

These comments are purely from the author's own individual and personal viewpoint, and obviously not representative of Freemasonry generally.

This is ALWAYS the case. No single man speaks for Freemasonry, because the Craft, it's symbols, teachings and secrets are interpreted differently by
all masons. Regulations and guidelines vary from jurisdiction to jurisdicito, and Freemasonry is radically different in different parts of the world.
In the US alone, freemasonry differs drastically from one state to the next.

Originally posted by sebatwerkWhy don't you stop being so damn ignorant and realize that not everything is what like so desperately
want to believe.

Being ignorant about a lot of things can be said about most of us. Being curious and suspicious is another thing. And your attitude (aggression and
constant insults) could really make anyone suspicious.

Originally posted by EyesOfTheFuture
Being ignorant about a lot of things can be said about most of us. Being curious and suspicious is another thing.

Yes, but continuing to be ignorant when the facts are right in front of your face is cause for concern. Despite having solid evidence to the contrary,
examples, rebuttals, etc, certain people continue to believe what they want, and continue to make the same wild accusations, and then have the nerve
to call others close-minded.

Being suspicious and curious is dangerous when one fails to take actual facts into consideration.

And your attitude (aggression and constant insults) could really make anyone suspicious.

Chill.

Why's that? Because I'm a Freemason? Why don't you try to chill when people continuously slander you and call you a satanist without being able to
provide an answer as to why they believe this? Try to chill when people tell you that nothing you say can be trusted because you're sworn to lie. Try
to chill when people accuse you of being a "disinfo agent". I'm usually very chill, but people's continuous ignorance gets on my nerves.

Originally posted by Questioneverything
This is an official Illuminati website, make no bones about it, it is for their research into unlocking their mysteries. Let no person of secret
fraternity tell you otherwise for they will defend there society to the hilt.

Wow! I got right in with no problem, they may or may not be the Illuminati but there is a slew of info on the site about Freemasonry and the
Illuminati. I read most of the Egyptian book of the dead. Its kinda dull though. Who knows maybe there is something to all that stuff??

How is it that it was so easy to access an official illuminati site because there counting on all of us being stupid. For humanities sake Wake up
people!!!!! They are mocking everyone, don’t you get it. For the grand scheme and finale at the end.

Synchronicity led me to find the answer, so i'm no way dissing any of you,
i have been sleeping too, we need to pick everyone up.

Adam Weishaupt, a young professor of canon law at Ingolstadt
University in Germany, was a Jesuit priest and an initiate of the
Illuminati. The branch of the Order he founded in Germany in 1776 was
the same Illuminati previously discussed. The Jesuit connection is
important.

Allegations that the Freemason organizations were infiltrated by
the Illuminati during Weishaupt's reign are hogwash. The Freemasons
have ALWAYS contained the core of Illuminati within their ranks, and
that is why they so freely and so willingly took in and hid the members
of Weishaupt's group.

the heart of the Bilderberg Group consists of 39 total members of
the Illuminati. The three committees are made up exclusively of members
of all different secret groups that make up the Illuminati, the
FREEMASONS, the VATICAN, and the BLACK NOBILITY. This committee works
year round in offices in Switzerland.

the history of the Illuminati go all the way back to the Ancient Temple of Wisdom in Cairo,
long before the birth of Christ. 'The Illuminati exist today under many
different names and many different occupations.''They
practice Hegalian conflict/resolution. They appear to oppose each other
at the bottom ranks, but at the highest levels they are actually
organizing and controlling the conflict which they have created to
produce the solution that they seek.

Originally posted by Questioneverything
How is it that it was so easy to access an official illuminati site because there counting on all of us being stupid. For humanities sake Wake up
people!!!!! They are mocking everyone, don’t you get it. For the grand scheme and finale at the end.

No offense dude, but the only one who looks stupid here is.... well... let's just say that your blind belief that this website is indeed the OFFICIAL
website of the Illuminati doesn't speak well for your ability to reason.

This is a service that nasa offers to amatuer radio operators/ astronomers. Pretty nice service. There is nothing sinister about nasa tracking
everything in orbit, as this is neccesary for shuttle launches. You dont want to run into a sattlite, as they are traveling a few thousand kilometers
per second, and will make a mighty large dent in an abrhams tank, much less the delicate shuttle.

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