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Alright, Noam, I'll give you a third and final chance to address the issue I've raised here. Is it the language barrier that prevents you from understanding these questions?

Quote:Is there some element of service to the community that I'm missing out on here? We help make a product available that increases the likelihood of people's compliance? Is that the cause? Is that what you mean when you say you're doing something you believe in?

And suppose the project takes off. Where do the profits go? Do you get them as a reward for having done something you believe in?

Don't get me wrong, I believe that you deserve the monetary rewards if you take the risk and bring something to market. I just want it to be clear that that's what you're doing here.

And for me personally, I'll not be contributing because all I'd be doing is paying in advance for an unproven product so that you'll have the opportunity to make a profit.

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Having been watching all this, it seems to me you have a reasonable idea for what might be a marketable product. But this is not where I'd be marketing it. You need to sell this idea to Resmed or Phillips or someone who has the resources to bring it to market on a large scale. You would stay in "Royalty" position for the product forever. That way you have no further investment issues, no need to make a "name" for yourself, or any of that. If it is a viable product, the jocks at Resmed-R-Us will know that. If they put their name on it, it will sell.

...and we can all say "we knew you before you became rich and famous."

all of the crowdfunding sites (including, but not limited to) indigogo, *encourage* their project people to create multiple levels of participation.

instead of asking ignorant (by your own admission) questions here, why don't you take a tour of indigogo or kickstarter and educate yourself about how it works? look at some of the things that are on there, the variety of levels of support, many offer 'donations' at lower levels, where all you get is a thank you, or a t-shirt for more $$ up to actually getting the product, then multiple products, then donations to the product cause, etc.

if all you want is a couple of hoses early, and helping to make the product a reality, then just buy in at that level and quit making (by your own admission) comments about the other funding levels that are available to people that might want them.

(07-01-2014, 09:45 AM)NoamHadas Wrote: Hi everybody,
If you're traveling a lot, and struggle with packing the hose, you may find this helpful.
This hose shrinks form 6 feet to just 9". Search Indiegogo for Travelhose and you'll find it.

Thanks,
Noam

(07-08-2014, 04:48 PM)diamaunt Wrote: instead of asking ignorant (by your own admission) questions here, why don't you take a tour of indigogo or kickstarter and educate yourself about how it works?

Gosh. And all along I thought this thread was about buying a Travelhose. Guess you learn something every day around here.

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Thanks everyone for your thoughts in this thread. I'm closing the thread for now since the discussion is getting a bit heated. If you'd like to carry on the discussion or talk to Noam about the product, please do so via PMs or another venue.

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