I started a thread about my 'fake italian' Polaris and I came to the conclusion was that they are licensed rather than fake.

To be licensed they would have to be identical and they're not. That is the point of a license. To be a fake there has to be intent to deceive, and we don't know about that. If your "whatever" is in neodymium or uranium glass, an Italian origin is unlikely. The use of neodymium and uranium in Italy seems to be restricted to handworked rather than mould-blown items.