JUSTIFIED | The Choo-Choo Interview

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In a special edition of the JUSTIFIED podcast here on Post Show Recaps, hosts Josh Wigler (@roundhoward) and Antonio Mazzaro (@acmazzaro) sit down with Duke Davis Roberts (@DukeUnchained), the actor who plays — er, played — Tiger Hawk Security muscle man Choo-Choo on season six of the FX series.

Duke reveals everything you could possibly want to know about Choo-Choo, including what the character was like in his original incarnation and the changes that were made on-set to make him the curiosity we know and love today, stories about interacting with Timothy Olyphant, Garrett Dillahunt and Sam Elliott, his theories for how the show is going to end (he doesn’t know spoilers), and his musings on several other television shows like BREAKING BAD and GAME OF THRONES. Plus, find out what Duke is up to now, from his web series Dungeons and Shit to his ambitious, superheroic 10-year plan.

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Justified returns with the 6th and final season Jan 20th on FX.[/caption]

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Josh Wigler is an entertainment journalist who covers Survivor, Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead and other popular TV shows for The Hollywood Reporter. He's the co-author of The Evolution of Strategy, creator of First One Out, host of Post Show Recaps and The Wiggle Room, and occasional Wanda Shirk impersonator.
He once interviewed Kermit the Frog about The Avengers and The Hunger Games, and hung out with Daryl Dixon and Ted the teddy bear during New Year's... so, you know, he's kind of a big deal. Follow Josh on Twitter @roundhoward.

Antonio Mazzaro is a Kentuckian, Lawyer, and Radio/TV/Film graduate of Northern Kentucky University--but he would love it if you didn't hold any of those things against him. Antonio's covered shows including Breaking Bad for Post Show Recaps, and Jack Benny, My Morning Jacket, and the Cincinnati Bearcats are a few of his favorite things. The TV character he would most like to emulate is his hero, Mr. Rogers. Follow Antonio on Twitter: @acmazzaro.

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If anyone wantsto know, Justified past seasons are on Amazon prime for free and you can buy the current season.

Antonio Mazzaro

Yeah, I definitely used Amazon on our season by season catchup. I do agree with Duke, though, Netflix is way more ubiquitous and easy to use than Prime’s streaming service. I own shares of Amazon. I wish the streaming was better believe me!

Josh Wigler

Yeah, I don’t think the point isn’t, “Well, it’s not streaming!” The point is, “It’s not on Netflix.” I use Amazon and Hulu but so many people just see the equation as: Streaming = Netflix. It’s a tough hurtle to overcome, for sure.

Antonio Mazzaro

Prime isn’t even on Apple TV. I don’t think you can be in that position and honestly compete with Netflix. But, Prime is getting there.

susan appleby

So you guys agree Justified would be a bigger hit if it was on Netflix instead of Amazon? That makes me a little sad, because it’s such a great show.

Antonio Mazzaro

To be perfectly honest, I think the biggest thing that kept Justified from being a smash is the first 6-7 episodes are sort of story of the week-y and not something that hooks you in hardcore. That’s just my personal opinion. I think this show is vastly superior to other cable shows that are fun (USA Shows, TNT shows, etc.) but not must watch shows by any stretch. However, I do think the first season sort of plays like one of those shows until about midway through.

I also do think the show would be binged more if it were on Netflix rather than Prime. I think Amazon’s biggest issue besides not being on Apple TV is generally speaking they want to lump pay-to-play options in with free ones. It’s sort of shady and confusing and their UI on the over the web streaming is so garbled that it is very hard to master (compare to Netflix and it is night and day). Their apps are better, but the damage is long done.

I LOVE Prime. The shipping alone makes it worth it to me. But it is definitely not the ubiquitous free streaming service Netflix is. So I do think more people would have seen Justified if it were on Netflix.

susan appleby

Completely agreed, the show desperately needed Boyd. I love Raylan and Timothy Olyphant but Boyd set the show on fire. I can watch Boyd murder Dewey in cold blood and still be on the edge of my seat hoping he doesn’t die in a coal mine. The character as played by Walter Goggins is fantastic.

Beefcake

Wow! I loved Choo-Choo, but I love Duke even more! Great interview.

How about Duke as Gorgon in the Inhumans movie?!?

susan appleby

FWIW, I can think of a few things that would bring Boyd and Raylan together, though I don’t think that is where the story is going:
1. Boyd turns informant on Avery and Katherine so he can get a new identity with Ava.
2. Boyd and Raylan look into the killer of Mr. Handsome.
3. Raylan uses Boyd to set up Avery (similar to 1, but Boyd doesn’t flip.)
4. Katherine kidnaps Ava to force Boyd to act, and Raylan finds out that his CI is missing.
5. Anything regarding Limehouse/ Errol. They both hate him.
6. The outside threat to Harlan that Avery and his backers bring. They both want to protect Harlan from outsiders.

That’s just off the top of my head.

What I think will happen in the story: averys backers will have to show up. He isn’t managing this alone. We may get to see some Kentucky bigwigs before long. Raylan will keep looking for Dewey. Garrett Dillahunt…probably will be after Tim and Raylan for killing his men.