Sunday, October 25, 2015

(Note: When a person is mentioned for the first time, their name
is in boldface.More information about each person can be
found on the URI web site at: http://www.uri.org/about_uri)

Monday started early.We
were up, ready to go, and on the shuttles to the Episcopal Center by 7:15
am.Breakfast was soon ready for us
there.I sat with Sam Wazan and Sherif
Rizk and talked about the differences in Arabic from place to place, especially
the idiosyncrasies of Egyptian Arabic.We also discussed the pre-Qur'anic fragments found inside the walls of
the Great Mosque at Sana'a in Yemen and the difficulties that scholars who
tried to study and write about them experienced, since they include earlier
versions of Qur'anic texts.One author
in Cairo was declared apostate and had is marriage annulled by the courts.

Later, Ardey Turner, a long-time URI volunteer, joined us.She coordinates the Circle of Healers CC and
does Reiki.She offered to give me Reiki
during the meetings, to help with my arm.I said that I would gratefully accept what was offered.After some more discussion of healing
techniques, Victor directed us all outside for the opening blessing.

The Multiregion was giving the blessing.Each of the three Multiregion Trustees - plus
me as a sort of ad hoc Multiregion
Trustee - offered something.Audri
opened by acknowledging the First Peoples of this place and asking their
permission and blessing for our work.She continued with a reading from one of her books, Awakening the Heart of the Beloved Community, an anthology of
writings on diversity and community.I
explained that since we would be meeting in a box for four days, the
Multiregion felt that we should spend some time outdoors.I led a tree - roots - branches - Four
Elements meditation.Vrajapati chanted Hare Krishna and read a passage from the
Gita.Ed recited something from Theravada Buddhism.I believe that it was all well-received, as
we got many compliments throughout the day.

We went upstairs to our meeting room and formed a circle.As always, we opened with a group reading of
the URI Charter - the Preamble, Purpose, and Principles or PPP - line by line,
going around the circle.The PPP is the
heart of the URI (http://www.uri.org/about_uri/charter/preamble_purpose_and_principles)
and I recommend checking them out.they
guide all we do in the Global Council.For some reasons, interfaith groups almost always for widdershins around
a circle.The Pagans and the Indigenous
folks always shake our heads.Each of
the 27 Trustees present (out of 31 total), half dozen Staff, handful of
President's Council members, and single member of the Board of the URI
Foundation were asked to say something about what in the PPP.(I have to say that while most folks were
waxing poetic and speaking from the heart, I was busily considering how one of
the Principles might create a feedback loop with a part of the Bylaws.This is what I get for Chairing the Bylaws
Committee.)

Then Sally Mahe
(Interfaith Christian / USA - Co-Director of Global Programs &
Organizational Development) and I led a session of Appreciative
Interviews.I explained the history of
this practice while Sally gave the specific directions.Sally and I (mostly Sally) had crafted the
questions for the interviews last week.In the past, Appreciative Interviews have been used at the start of many
interfaith conferences.I can truthfully
say that every person with whom I did such an interview became a good friend.Each person was to find someone they didn't
know well and from another Region.They
were to sit down together and respond to a set of questions.Each person would have 20 minutes to answer
the questions.

1) Introduction:Please
tell me a little about yourself.Whatbroughtyou to URI?What role do you have?

2) Working in Organizations – Sharing Stories:Most of us have had different kinds ofexperiences working with others in
organizations. Please reflect on an experience that you had working with others
in a group or organization that led to an exceptionallypositive result.Tell me the story of what happened.How did the group work together?What made the work effective? Without being
too humble, what was it about you that contributed to the success of this work?

3) Building URI’s Future Together:Imagine that it is 2025 and that URI has continued to grow strong and
vibrant.Other international
organizations look to URI’sGlobal
Council as an outstandingmodel of Board
governance andglobal organizational
leadership.What is the Global Council
doing that contributes to its success and effectiveness?What values and practices stand out as most
important?

4) Next Steps:We hold high
vision that URI’s networkis making a
better world,a worldthat is fit for our children and
grandchildren.As the governing board
for URI,how mighttheGlobalCouncil empower URI’s
global networkto achieve its mission
and purpose?What steps can we take now
to inspire and shape the work ahead?

This was the first time that I did not participate in the
interviews.With Sally I made sure folks
were on track, rang a bell when necessary, etc.Usually, when the time is up and the group reconvenes.Each person introduced their partner to the
group, based on what they learned in the interview.We did not have time for this.Instead, Sally asked for folks to shout out
one word that was their response to the Interview.Words like "Exciting",
"Inspiring", "Informative", etc. filled the room.I asked them to remember what they learned
and if, over the course of our meetings, some insight from the Interview
applied, to share it then.

We had a short break, during which I had a brief conversation with
Peter and Bill about the absence of conservative Christian and Muslims from our
work, and my experience doing dialog with such people.I know that there are ways that we can be
dialogue, to the benefit of everyone.We'll have to talk more later.

When we reconvened, Victor told us to form our pairs into groups
of six.Since I hadn't been in a pair, I
attached myself to a group of Peter, Bill, Sherif, Presidnet's Council member Jill Kramer (Christian / USA), Maria Eugenia Crespo de Mafia (Catholic
/ Argentina - Director of Cooperation Circle Support), and Pamela Banks (Christian / USA - Director of Finance &
Administration).These groups were asked
to share, discuss, and draw on some large sheets of paper what one thing is
necessary for us to succeed.We came up
with "building trust", "innovation", "establishing a
global identity", "balancing democracy and control", and
more.Jill drew a Mother Fern, growing
and seeding off other plants.

One of the things we discussed is how the President's Council
raises most of our $3.2 million global budget (not 3.5, I was incorrect), the
CC's themselves raise 5 to 10 times that much to support their own efforts, and
the volunteer effort is worth 5 to 10 times that.We need to do another assessment of the
funding raised by the CCs and the worth of the volunteer support.Jill mentioned that Bill's dream had been to
have 1 million people in 1000 CCs in 100 countries by 2025.Maria pointed out that, as of Wednesday, we
will have over 700,000 members in 745 CCs in 92 countries, so we are already
almost there.Bill added that those
700,000 people are being served by a paid Global Staff of only 36 people.Something will have to change soon.

When we all shared the fruits of our discussions, many groups had
drawn something like a tree or other plant.The idea of organic growth had came up a lot.One group brought up the idea of a
"Rapid Conflict Resolution Mobile Team CC", bringing together the
multi-cultural conflict resolution skills throughout the URI network to be of
service to the world.A light bulb went
off in my head... Just as we are developing Resource CCs - CC that exist to
harness the skills & resources of the URI network to serve the other CCs -
perhaps we could also create Service CCs that could harness the skills &
resources of the URI network to serve the world.The already mentioned Conflict Resolution
came to mind as a Service CC.I thought
of Sustainable Economic Development as another.And in discussing the idea with Peter, Bill, Victor, and Liam Chinn (Earth Spirituality / USA -
Co-Director of Global Programs, Evaluation & Learning), Refugee Assistance
came up as another.I don't know if this
will go anywhere, but the URI has always been about serving the world, not just
our CCs, and this might be a method.

We broke for lunch and I sat with Liam, Ed, and Peter Carpenter (Christian / USA) of
the President's Council.I had not met
Peter before and this was a chance to get to know him.After lunch, Liam, Ed, and I ventured further
a field to find a coffee shop.We talked
about the "indigenous radio" idea that had come up with
Alejandrino.Liam grew up in an
indigenous community in far Northwest Alaska and shared my enthusiasm for the
project.We talked about Service
CCs.We talked about the materials Liam
and others were preparing to help CCs explain the URI to new people.I told him about the "What CoG Already
Does for You" pamphlet I had written for CoG and how the same principle
applied to the URI.Being a CC is not
about what you "get" out of being a member.Or, at least, that's a small part of it.It's about being inspired by the PPPs and
wanting to share in that vision of a better world.It's about helping others just by being a
member CC.You may get some
"credibility" by being a CC, but you also lend credibility to
others.In parts of the world where
interfaith work is much harder, where it can literally be a matter or life a
death, being able to say that you part of a larger global network doing the
same things you are can help immeasurably, but the other members of that
network have to exist as well.Liam said
that he hadn't considered these aspects and that we should talk further.

When we got back and reconvened, the Asia Region did the opening
blessing.I was a little concerned when
Swamini ended her blessing by saying "May all the darkness be banished
from the world!"As I understand
us, we kind of like the darkness.I
think this is one of those deep differences between some faith traditions.Some think that things are best when
everything is Light, and some want there to be both Light and Dark and take
pleasure in the balance.

John Weiser then led us through an exercise on the Roles &
Responsibilities of Trustees and the Global Council, since people from around
the world can have very different preconceptions about this.He started with looking at the pertinent
Bylaws.

4.1.A) The purpose of the Global Council is to support the Members
in making real the vision and values of the Preamble, Purpose and
Principles.The Global Council’s central
spirit is not one of control, but rather one of service informed by deep
listening to the hopes and aspirations of the whole URI community.The Global Council will inspire and support
the URI worldwide community in cooperative global action.It is envisioned that their deliberations
will be tempered by tenderness for one another and for the Earth
community.It is envisioned that their
actions will reflect a yearning to help the people of the URI fulfill their
aspirations to be a positive force for peace, justice and healing in theworld.

4.1.B) The Global Council is responsible to develop financial and
other resources to meet the needs of URI, Inc.The Global Council will accept eligible applications for Membership in
the URI and will manage the affairs of the Core Trust and URI, Inc.

5.1) The Core Trust shall be comprised of a Chair, President,
Executive Director, Treasurer, Secretary, such additional officers as may be
appointed pursuant to Section 5.2 and such staff as it shall require and it
shall operate under the direction of the Global Council and serve the needs of
the Members.

We looked at an article on Management recommended by John and then
returned to our groups of six for discussion based on that article, especially
to answer the questions:

* What do we see
as the key roles for Trustees?

* What do we need
to be more effective as a Trustee?

When we re-gathered to compare notes, there was a general
agreement that, based on the Mission / PPP of the URI, the Global Council
should set Goals for realizing that purpose in the form of direction given to
the Staff.The Staff should then work
with the GC to create a Strategic Plan for achieving those goals.

As far as what we need to be better Trustees, the number one thing
was that we need better electronic communication!The Trustees feel swamped by emails (often
from folks who don't know how to use email correctly, IMHO) and the Global
Support Office feels like no one answers their emails, so they send more, so the
Trustees feel swamped and don't get to them, etc., etc.

John also talked to us about how Trustees normally don't get
involved in directing Staff, but that the participation of Trustees in Regional
Leadership Teams - which seems unique to the URI - put a different spin on
this.We'll talk about this later.

John then shifted the group around a bit to discuss and come up
with 5 Goals for the coming year.Our
group lost Bill and Peter, and gained Audri and Vrajapati.We ended up with 6 Goals:

* Improve
internal electronic communication, both vertically (between the Global Council,
the Staff, and the CCs) and horizontally (between Trustees and between
CCs).Vraj said that we should
"improve the quality of our communication and reduce the burden of
it".

* Improve our
communication to the URI, so more folks understand who we are and what we do.

(In both of
these, we need to learn from other organizations and from our CCs.)

* Explore
relationships & partnerships with related groups, other than them becoming
a CC.

Engage in innovative
development of our Regional Leadership Teams that is geographically and
culturally appropriate.

* Increase
Regional fundraising capacity.

* Translate all
our basic documents into several languages and put translation buttons on our
web pages, to communicate globally as easily as possible.

As each group shared their Goals, Becky wrote them down on large
sheets of paper to post on the walls.Inevitably, there was a great deal of overlap and these will be
collapsed don for us to consider later in the meeting.

After a break, we heard from three Regions of comparable size who
had very different ways of organizing themselves.

* Europe
with 49 Cooperation Circles, is registered with the EU as an NGO in Belgium and
is very structured with a tiered democratic administration.

* Latin
America & the Caribbean with 39 Cooperation Circles, has a Regional
Leadership Team consisting of its three Trustees, its Regional Coordinator, and
her two Assistants.They meet online
once a month and in person as often as possible, and work by consensus.Maria said that the key to their
effectiveness is "consultation, collaboration, and consensus".

* South East
Asia & the Pacific (called "SEAPac") with 41 Cooperation
Circles, has to contend with being very spread out in an archipelago in which
travel is difficult.They divided their
Region into three Zones, each administer by one Trustee and a Staff person:
Western (9 CCs in Cambodia & Malaysia - Sam An), Central (22 CCs in the
Philippines, itself over 7,000 islands - Musa), and Pacific (10 CCs in
Australia, Fiji, and New Zealand - Peter).

Each Region also told us a LOT about what they were doing in their
Regions, their challenges and their success.SEAPac is contending with natural disasters from tsunamis to volcanoes
and so has CCs involved in disaster relief.It also has serious ethnic conflicts, and so has CCs involved in peace
negotiations between governments and rebels.

After this, Ed reported on the work of the new Environmental
Resource CC, the first of the Resource CCs.Inspired by the extent to which "Earth" is prominent in our
Charter and PPPs, and shocked by environmental depredation and climate change,
they had come together to help the URI as a network address the many serious
related issues.Over 150 CCs are focused
on something having to do with the environment and they could work more
effectively if someone connected them with each other and helped them connect
with resources and funding outside the URI.That's what the Environmental Resource CC will do.

Ed handed out copies of their Strategic Plan and Executive
Summary.Everyone agreed that this
sounded great!Phil spoke at length
about how much these issues affected Native Americans and how happy he was to
see the URI coke to this point.I said
that I agreed with Phil, but that for documents that were all about nature, I
didn't hear the voice of the nature religions anywhere in them."The environment" was always in the
third person and equated with "the creation".The nature religions felt that this kind of
separation between humanity and nature was part of what got us into this
mess.There are many nature religions -
Shinto, Taoism, Indigenous traditions, Wicca, and others - who should be included.Ed said that they would welcome input on
this.

As we broke for dinner, I spoke with Bill, who had founded the
Environmental Resources CC, and apologized for inserting a negative comment
into the rollout of his CC.He said that
the plans presented weren't meant to be a theological statement.I said that I understood, but that it would
be good to find more inclusive language that would be more welcoming of all
traditions.He agreed, but pointed out
that those traditions weren't in the meetings.I said that we usually weren't, because few of us had the time or money
to take time out for them.That's why I
often felt that I was the one person present who had to speak up for all those
others.We'll talk more about this as
the ERCC goes forward.

I was late for a dinner meeting of the Trustees who are part of
the Multiregion Leadership Team Ed, Vrajapati, Audri, and me) with Sally.We talked about the future of the Multiregion
and how it was apparent that this Region was on the cusp of coming into its own
as the dream we had at the founding of the URI; a place where CCs in the other
Regions could come together in shared interests to share skills & resources
globally.

We finally got back to the hotel a little before 8 pm.I found Gaea
Denker (Interspiritual / USA - Communications Manager) waiting for me in
the lobby.We had been trying to find a
time when she could interview me.CBS,
the TV network, invited URI to produce it annual Christmas Eve special.Our office has been collecting footage from
CCs around the world and interviews with Trustees and others, and these will be
combined with footage shot at an interfaith service in San Francisco this
November.Gaea wanted to interview me in
the robes I wear sometimes in interfaith work.Since others are appearing in ceremonial garb, I agreed and ran upstairs
to change.Along the way, I sent a text
to Peter.Since he had been so
fascinated with meeting real Witches, I thought he might like to see one in
ritual attire.

Gaea (pronounced "Gia") interviewed me in one of the
hotel's ballrooms, the only place with enough light at night.I assume the interview went well, since she
was brought to tears by some of my answers.Just as we finished, Peter arrived.Gaea interviewed him, and then took the opportunity to shoot us together
as an example of interfaith friendship.All in all, it was a lot of fun and enjoyed the opportunity to
"sell" the URI to the world. (or at least, the nation).Once again, these days most of my interfaith
work is not about telling people
about Witchcraft, it'sabout working
side-by-side with people of other faith traditions to do good together - as a
Witch.

I got back to my room about 9:30 and started writing.We could sleep in a little bit on Tuesday as
the busses wouldn't pick us up until 8 am.

As it turned out, sleeping in was the least of my worries, as my
arm started taking badly shortly after waking - after several days of being
"on" in very hot weather, without a break and with little sleep.I had to text Victor and let him know that I
would be taking a day off.Today was
devoted to working on a Strategic Plan.I didn't think that I would have input that would radically shift what
others would be saying, so I thought I could safely miss this session.I spent the day resting and finishing this
report.

Tomorrow, when we finish our work, we''' meet with representative
from the Parliament of the World's Religions and discuss joint programming.

As many know, the Parliament of the World's Religions (www.parliamentofreligions.org) will be
happening here in Salt Lake City in a few days.Less well known is that the United Religions Initiative (www.uri.org) decided to save some travel expense
and plan its annual, face-to-face meeting of its Global Council in Salt Lake
for the five days leading up to the Parliament.Back to back conferences is going to be a long haul.

I am a Continuing Trustee in this fourth term of the Global
Council.That means that I was selected
by the previous Global Council to serve on this one to help ensure
continuity.There is one other
Continuing Trustee, Elisabeth Lheure of Spain.I was one of three Trustees elected for North America in the GC's first
term.In the second, I was appointed to
serve as an At-Trustee.I was also made
an At-Large Trustee in the GC's third term.URI founder Bishop Bill Swing and I are the only Trustees to have served
on all four of the URI's Global Council's to date.This makes us the GC's organizational memory.

Sunday was a travel day.The flight from Berkeley / Oakland was about one and a half hours and an
airport / hotel shuttle took me right to the Red Lion, where all of the URI
Trustees and Staff are staying.I
arrived around 2:30 pm.On the shuttle I
ran into John Weiser, a member of
the URI's President's Council - a group of friends of URI founder Bill Swing
who work to raise the money to keep this whole show going.Most of our 3.5 million dollar budget comes
from them.How to continue the
President's Council after the President retires some day is one of the
challenges we'll be addressing at this meeting.

Many Trustees had to come great distances and we arrived in dribs
and drabs over the course of the day.After checking in, I had a few hours before we were to meet in the lobby
to go to dinner.The rooms are
reminiscent of PantheaCon.I have a room
to myself as I am told that I snore prodigiously.I've
never heard it, but I've been forced to believe others.As a result I tell conference organizers that
I have to share a room with someone else who snores, someone who's deaf, or
have my own room.I pay my own way, so
it doesn't matter to the organizers.

(Only about half of us were here, yet already the diversity was
amazing!You can Google almost any of
the folks and read about their amazing interfaith work around the world.)Several members of the URI Global Staff were with
us as well.

The route to the restaurant took us along two sides of a store
selling erotic lingerie, and its window displays were a sight to behold!Earlier Global Councils included folks who
would have been shocked and mortified at the sight, but I think this crew took
it in stride.I had to endure some
ribbing about the "sexy Witch" outfit in the window, but I assured
everyone that this was in fact our traditional religious garb.They may not know a lot about us, but they can understand a joke.

Dinner was an opportunity to catch up with old friends, especially
Peter.If you remember my reports form
the last Global Council meeting in Santa Clara CA last year, Peter was the one
who was so shocked and enchanted to meet real Witches that he wanted picture
after picture with me and Rachael to send home.When a small earthquake struck during the meeting - with our tour bus
moving back and forth - and Peter saw my hand shaking, he wondered if was
casting a spell to cause the earthquake!Peter organized most of the musical programming for the Melbourne
Parliament and he is looking forward to seeing how it's handled at this
Parliament.

After dinner, it was back to the hotel and relatively early to bed
as we were to gather at 8:30 the next morning.I spent a bit of the evening writing, as usual.

At Sunday breakfast in the hotel, we were joined by more trustees
who had arrived late the previous night:Ravindra Kandage (Buddhist /
Sri Lanka), Prof. John Kurakar
(Christian / India), Elisabeth Lheure
(Baha'i / Spain), and Alejandrino Quispe
Mejia (indigenous Quechua / Peru).Over breakfast, I spoke with Petar about the situation in Bulgaria with
Len.

(For those who didn't her about this... One of my coveners - Katya
- has a relative - Len - who was vacationing in Bulgaria and was arrested a
while ago at the request of the government of Kyrgyzstan. He was the retired
executive of a mining company that did business in Kyrgyzstan and there were
some sort of political machinations going on with the company and the
Kyrgyzstani government.The Kyrgyz
thought that grabbing Len could give them some leverage and contacted the
Bulgarians through Interpol to pick him up.Anyway, Len was being held in a Bulgarian jail (not fun) and about to be
extradited to Kyrgyzstan (much less fun) and so Katya turned to our Wiccan
community for magical help and asked if I could pull any interfaith
strings.Knowing Petar is a mover and
shaker in Bulgaria and very well connected, I asked him for aid.)

Petar told me that he had looked into the matter and was sure that
the extradition would not take place.With Western interest being focused on the matter, Len would certainly
be released.And so he was!

After breakfast, a group of us decided to walk to the Temple and
take in the sights, before our programming began in earnest later that
day.Along the way, I got caught up with
Alejandrino, with the constant help of the Spanish translation program in my
Android.I had taken Spanish from
Nursery School through Middle School, but had switched to Latin in High School
and had five years of that.The result
is that I can understand a lot of Spanish, but when I try to speak I'm not sure
if I'm using Spanish words or Latin ones.The Spanish comes back to me pretty quickly, but I'm not fast enough for
conversation.Alejandrino had taken
English in High School, and studied for a month up in the Bay Area with Rachael
(a project of the Spirituality & the Earth CC).I insisted that I speak in Spanish and he in English,
as we both taxed our memories.

At the Temple, we were immediately greeted by comely young
missionaries who were eager to greet, inform, and hopefully convert us.(They were all so uniformly good-looking with
shiny white teeth that I had to wonder if beauty was a requirement for the
job.That made me uneasy."I'm sorry, dear, you are devout and
well-informed, but you're just not pretty enough.")That being said, the young ladies were all
very nice and informative.They marveled
at the diversity of our group and wondered what brought us all together.We explained the URI.they wondered what brought us to Sal Lake and
we explained about the Parliament.They
all had no idea this even was just a few days away and that they would soon be
swamped by people of over 200 religions.

We all wandered off in different directions, but Peter and I
stayed together.We went through one of
the Museums, where Peter heard Australian accents and ran into a huge singing
star from Australia, a contestant in their X Factor program, disabled Iraqi war
orphan Emmanuel Kelly.(I didn't know
who he was until I got back to the room and Googled him.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W86jlvrG54oWow!)A woman with Emmanuel told about a group she formed as the result of
being Mormon and having a gay son.The
first meeting of this group to support LGBT people in the Mormon church had 52
people show up!There are more and more
Mormons with LGBT family members and more and more are being open about
it.We talked about the possibility of
her group working with similar efforts in the URI to form an LGBT-support
Cooperation Circle.We'll talk
more.Peter and I continued on around
Temple square.We had several
conversations with young Missionary women.In every case, once they learned about URI from us they seemed more
interested in learning more about interfaith than converting us!We seemed to be teaching more than learning .

We continued on around the square.The city was immaculate and almost deserted.On the way back, Peter's gout started
bothering him so we got an Uber drive.The driver explained that the Mormons stayed home on Sunday, so half the
population was off the streets.

Around 5 pm we gathered for shuttles to the local Episcopal Church
Center for an opening dinner and where we would be holding our meetings.The Center is only a few years old and quite
pretty (http://www.episcopalutah.org/eccu/facilities/).Our last arrivals were there: GC Chair Kiran Bali (Hindu / UK), URI founder
& President Bishop Bill Swing
(Episcopal / USA), several more Staff members, some more members of the
President's Council, and one of the members of the URI Foundation, which
manages our endowment.Bill's dream is
to raise a $100 million endowment to ensure that the basic costs of the URI are
covered.We're only part way there.

Kiran welcomed us to the 2015 meeting of the URI Global
Council.Victor introduced the Director
of the Episcopal Center, who said that they always wanted the Center to be
focused on interfaith, so we were most welcome.Kiran invited each of us to introduce ourselves, starting with me.Bill said a blessing over the food.Victor encouraged us to sit with people we
didn't know as well, to make new friends.(That was hard for me.After 13
years on the Council, I pretty much know everyone.)I sat with Victor, Phil (who talked about the
influence of the Iroquois Confederacy on the US Constitution), Sherif (who
talked about the politics of Egypt & Syria), and others.

The Staff handed out binders with the documents we would need for
the meeting and Victor walked us through the schedule.He asked who would lead the first meditation
/ blessing, tomorrow morning.Vrajapati
immediately volunteered the Multiregion.(While not a Multiregion Trustee, I am usually included with them, so
they just assumed that I would be involved.)I said that since we will be meeting in a box for a few days we should
start outside.We'll take everyone into
the Center's garden and I'll lead a grounding meditation.

We had about a half-hour to schmooze before the shuttles arrived
to go back to the hotel.I spoke with
Audri about overhearing a conversation she was having with Staff-member Pamela
about Ferguson and Black Lives Matter!I
said that, in the URI, we have meta-CCs focused on Women, the Environment,
Youth, and Indigenous People.It's
ridiculous that we don't have one on Race.This, and LGBT issues, are something we must talk about!I'll bring
it up with Victor in the next couple of days.

Alejandrino and I (with the aid of my Android) started talking
about the temple.He had been singled
out by a Spanish-speaking young Missionary woman who tried her best to convert
him.When he explained about his indigenous
spirituality, the young woman tried to explain that the indigenous people of
the Americas are descended from the Lost Tribes of Israel.Alejandrino was having none of it.She gave him a copy of the Book of Mormon in
Spanish before he left to come back to the hotel.

We continued our conversation on the shuttle.When we reached the hotel, we asked Elisabeth
Lheure to translate for us.We ended up
spending a couple of hours ranging over a number of topics.(It's now 2 am and we have to gather to leave
the hotel at 7:15 am, so I only have time for some highlights.)

* We talk about how, in Ayacucho (Alejandrino's home in the Andes)
indigenous people are leaving the Catholic Church for Evangelical churches ,
not because they believe, but because of the power of the "new" as a
way to escape the power of the Catholic.There are 36 Catholic churches in Ayacucho, of which only 5 are
operating.There are over 200
Evangelical churches, some run out of people's homes.

* The Evangelical churches require folks to tithe 10%, but they
just can't afford it.To avoid the
tithe, folks drive to markets far from town to exchange goods in a barter
system, so they don't have income to tithe.

* We talked about LGBT issues and polyamory in the Wiccan
community and the indigenous community of Ayacucho.They have an interesting practice that everyone
knows about, but no one talks about.When women reaches menopause, "since her sex drive is so much
stronger than her husband's", she will leave her husband - temporarily -
and have relationships with several men.This will go on for a few years, after which she will return to her
husband and continue their relationship as if nothing happened.

* We talked about the preservation of sacred sites from those who
would destroy them, those who would use them incorrectly, and those who would
want to study them and preserve them, but prevent access for ongoing use.

* We talked about how global interest in Alejandrino is resulting
in people in his city starting to take indigenous spirituality more
seriously.He finds young people
expressing interest in learning how to make offerings at the sacred sites.

* In relation to that, Alejandrino told us about the radio program
he used to do on indigenous issues - in Quechua on Saturday and in Spanish on
Sunday.He had to stop because he could
no longer afford to pay for the airtime. (That's the way it works in
Peru.)We talked about the possibility
of the Lost & Endangered Religions Project supporting Alejandrino in
videotaping programs and putting them online.It could be the beginning of an "indigenous radio"
website.A lot of ideas were tossed
around, but I think we definitely have a new project.

* We talked about the priesthood of which Alejandrino is a part,
but we didn't have time to get into this very deeply.More later.

Okay.Gotta go to bed. I'm posting this and hitting the sack.More tomorrow.