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He who wishes to fight must first count the cost. When you engage in actual fighting, if victory is long in coming, then men's weapons will grow dull and their ardor will be dampened. If you lay siege to a town, you will exhaust your strength. Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain. Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardor dampened, your strength exhausted and your treasure spent, other chieftains will spring up to take advantage of your extremity. Then no man, however wise, will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue... In war, then, let your great object be victory, not lengthy campaigns.
-Sun Tzu, the Art of War

Maybe if people hand back Anatolia, Caucasus and Arabia Otherwise it is simply to indefensible compared to the Rus

If Foels takes Persia it'll be just like old times, except I and vR have switched place

Persia is though spot, but with good ammount effort and dedication it can be played. You need to secure either the african or the russian border with strong brotherhood... for militarily its though spot, but even I managed to keep it together, and it always took three to four major landpowers to bring me down.

The Professor wrote:
Also is there a site somewhere where I can google the acronyms you use.

Persia has piggy-in-the-middle syndrome, but as Golle demonstrated, that can be weathered with sufficient numbers of friends and good warfighting skill. In V2 it has good population levels and good resources. It also has plenty of directions to expand in.

All in all, not bad. And it is ruled by a Caliph.

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No public demands have been made; the raging was over breaking of NAPs and a spot of lawyering, rather than the war as such. In particular, Golle had a NAP with Ethiopia; then Ethiopia DOWed China (thus coming in on the opposite side) in the expectation that Persian and Ethiopian troops would not fight. Ethiopian ships did, however, blockade the Straits at a tactically awkward moment, leading to the near loss of a Persian doomstack. It was in fact able to escape by a retreat north to the Khanate troops that had just seized Cherson and held it against heavy Croatian opposition, but it was a near-run thing, easily as dramatic as my fighting retreat through Germany last week. At any rate, it was the perceived perfidy and lawyering that enraged the Finns, not the actual backstabbing or demands.

I didn't ragequit becouse of anything spesific, I quit becouse I was in such state of rage that I started to insult an challenge everyone who even dared to type something to me. The rage came from getting decepted for the 16th or so time in the game from the very last people I wished to get decepted. The reasons why I extend that cooling down departure to entire campaing is becouse apparently I get too fastly involved into game-ruining rage when people decieve me with malish intents. I guess I don't fit to play that well games with this type of roster.

There actuall war was not even properly started and from all aspects Russia and china was winning it.
KoM's mentioned retreat from Thrace via bulgaria and romania by my forces clearly demonstrates how inable Yoshi and fivoin were actually to get anything decive done in the war, aside to manouvre into provinces where russians were not at the beging. The fact that Vr claims that he was not supposed to figth persia and russia*, despite we all, persia, russia and Japan openly stated that we have TS with Qin and that we were going to defend it in the chatt, doesen't impress me that the africans can manouvre this in diplomatic victory either...

Unless the new players decide otherwice, so its down to battle of minds and hearts with them to decide this war.

*(which i found BS as he did "figth" me by blockading bosborous in the most direst moment, and pro's like him don't happen to get those seas by "accident" as he dares to claim)

Last edited by Gollevainen; 16-01-2012 at 10:23.

The Professor wrote:
Also is there a site somewhere where I can google the acronyms you use.

Dano's drinkin' the kool-aid and believes that we attacked him first by accidently ,blockading some indian port somewhere; apparantly justifying reprisal in the boshorphos without diplomatically informing anyone of it.

He who wishes to fight must first count the cost. When you engage in actual fighting, if victory is long in coming, then men's weapons will grow dull and their ardor will be dampened. If you lay siege to a town, you will exhaust your strength. Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain. Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardor dampened, your strength exhausted and your treasure spent, other chieftains will spring up to take advantage of your extremity. Then no man, however wise, will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue... In war, then, let your great object be victory, not lengthy campaigns.
-Sun Tzu, the Art of War

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So we've got Frosty in Russia. As for Persia, several people have said "So-and-so is interested" but I haven't seen anyone say "I'm interested". Therefore let it be done in this manner: Whoever shall first post in this thread saying "I'd like to play Persia" shall have the position. Those who have friends who have expressed interest, tell them that if their interest is more than theoretical, now's their chance.

So we've got Frosty in Russia. As for Persia, several people have said "So-and-so is interested" but I haven't seen anyone say "I'm interested". Therefore let it be done in this manner: Whoever shall first post in this thread saying "I'd like to play Persia" shall have the position. Those who have friends who have expressed interest, tell them that if their interest is more than theoretical, now's their chance.

Does Brucolac even have a Paradox account?

On Ubik: "HE GETS TO BE SMUG AFTER CARVING THE FACE OF PERFECTION USING THE SPOON OF INSPIRATION UPON THE BUTTOCKS OF AN ANGEL"