Matt B

Kociuszko is definately a consideration. If the continents are defined as a large land masses, islands are excluded - they are not part of any continent. Else if we're talking the division of the entire political world into 7 units "continent" then it's Carstensz.

Kociuszko is definately a consideration. If the continents are defined as a large land masses, islands are excluded - they are not part of any continent. Else if we're talking the division of the entire political world into 7 units "continent" then it's Carstensz.

Attic Tony

Kosciuszko is the highest point on the Australian landmass. But, although most of Indonesia is part of Asia, Irian Jaya is part of the Australian continent in the same way as, for example, the UK is part of Europe. So Carstensz is the true 7th summit.I'd still climb both though

Kosciuszko is the highest point on the Australian landmass. But, although most of Indonesia is part of Asia, Irian Jaya is part of the Australian continent in the same way as, for example, the UK is part of Europe. So Carstensz is the true 7th summit.I'd still climb both though

This is ridiculous , Australia is a continent and Kosciousko is the highest point.Just admit the reason its not here is because its too flat and easy to climb. That's the real reason its not on the list. Let's just be honest! ! !

Well, thanks for your comment. Kilimanjaro is just as easy to climb, but that is not the point. We think it is ridiculous to exclude non-volcanic islands that are on the same continental plate. The Torres Strait, which is only abot 15 meter deep now was not there between 20-60,000 years ago. Back then the island of Guinea was even connected by a landbridge to Australia!You can read abou the remaining islands and their history here.If there is another ice age, than the strait will be dry again, so then suddenly Guinea is part of the continent again? According to your vision, on which continent is an island like Jersey? Or Schiermonnikoog for that matter Check out this site about the history of Papua. Here's a quote:

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The first settlers to Papua New Guinea migrated from Southeast Asia probably at least 40,000 years ago during the Pleistocene Epoch, or ice age. At that time the polar ice caps were larger than they are today, and with more water locked in the ice caps, the oceans were considerably shallower. Many of the present Indonesian islands were part of the Asian landmass, so there were fewer water barriers to human migration. New Guinea was attached to Australia and to Indonesia’s easternmost islands by a land bridge, although it was separated from Indonesia’s central islands by water.

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at cartographic.com, you look at maps of asia, and papua is listed under there.

is that good enough?

No. As asked before, what about the UK, Tasmania, Schiermonnikoog? And maybe even more important: what about Papua New Guinea, the other half of the same island?? Politically (as that is what you mean) this belongs to Australia. Would that mean that one island belongs to 2 continents?You can as much find yahoo pages as you want, but it will not change the fact that Papua/PNG are on the same continental shelf as australia, just like tasmania. All other Indonesian islands (that were never connected to Papua) are on the asian shelf. The fact that Indonesia took Papua over from the Dutch (in 1962) does not mean it is suddenly on teh asian shelf, nor does it mean that under the Dutch it was part of the European continent. Politics and geology are 2 completely different things.

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trunl

i completely understand what u are saying. first of all, if a single island can be split between countries, then, yes, it can be split between two continents, even if it is on the australian shelf. second of all, show me a single source that states what you say. i gave you 4.

first of all, if a single island can be split between countries, then, yes, it can be split between two continents, even if it is on the australian shelf. second of all, show me a single source that states what you say. i gave you 4.

This is the silliest thing I ever heard You have no clue what a continent or geology is. Clearly a waste of my time. Check out the Carstensz list and tell those climbers that they are all stupid and that you will tell them what a continent is. Let's agree to disagree, ok, and leave this thread open for others...

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