Yes, the plant aspect of Chespin is supposed to be a chestnut, but it's clearly based on something mammalian as well. And Chespin's Japanese name, Harimaron, contains the first half of the Japanese word for hedgehog (harinezumi), so I think the intent is kind of clear there.

Yes, the plant aspect of Chespin is supposed to be a chestnut, but it's clearly based on something mammalian as well. And Chespin's Japanese name, Harimaron, contains the first half of the Japanese word for hedgehog (harinezumi), so I think the intent is kind of clear there.

50% Chestnut and 50% Hedgehog???Hmm... kinda... original! But still don't like his design...

Why don't you like his design. WHAT'S NOT TO LURVE. Those cute little teeth. Those stubbly little legs. That cute wittle face. That thing on his head. (Seriously what is that. Hat or hair?). HE'S SO CUTE AND KEWL

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He's actually the first starter I liked since Charmander and Squirtle. He's in the top 3 for me right now when it comes to starters.

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GP no likey Chespin because GP is purist. Purist only like Game Boy Gens. No Advance or DS Gens. Just Game Boy Gens. That what purist is.</possible tumor, or just crazy>

I like Gen 1, 2 and 3Actually... I wasn't a purist some years ago.And I actually bought Platinum and Diamond.But when I first seen Piplup... almost puked. (Chimchar was horrible and I didn't liked Turtwig... so I finally took the grass type)It was the worst design ever since gulpin, seriously.I tried to train some pokemon of this Gen, but they all turned out horrible (Drapion, Garchomp, etc.)So one day, when I first saw Regigigas, I said: "I hate this Gen!"So I stick to Rapidash and pokemon from older Gens.

And when Gen 5 came out, I expected better Pokemon, but I met Oshawott... same design than Piplup, but worst!!! (unlike Gen 4, I liked 2 Pokemon: the electric zebra and the prehistoric turtle.

And then... Gen 6... much better!But... Chespin, with same design than Piplup and Oshawott...But others are good for now... Fennekin, don't become an ugly thing!!!

Rufflet and Braviary are eagles, Spearow is a sparrow. Its name is a combination of spear (referring to its sharp beack) and sparrow. And a Chandelier can hurt you if it falls on you (Cheaper by the Dozen). You're mixing up real world logic with pokemon logic lol.

fine while we're being ridiculous I'll hate the Hitmon trio and the Eeveelutions for looking alike. Oh and I'll remember to share my hate to every bipedal normal type animal pokemon for being unoriginal and not creative. The sooner people get off the Piplup/Oshawott/Chespin deal the better.

I think I'll leave it at that. There are certain Pokemon issues that are worth debating and arguing about, but this isn't one of them. After all Gamefreak didn't hire us, they hired others that work hard to make the games we love. The least we can do is enjoy them.

Oh, chill! It's just GP's opinion. He doesn't like this type of design. Don't shoot him for that!However, I must point out a mistake somewhere. GP has written that Garchomp is horrible. Of course, he meant horribly strong.

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For the record, while I don't really see the similarities between Chespin and the other two, and while otters and penguins are obviously different animals, you have to be a little blind to say that these two look nothing alike (P.S. Piplup is still far superior):

Piplup was probably the single most popular Pokemon from Diamond and Pearl. So I don't think it was a coincidence that Oshawott just happened to have the same general body shape and coloring scheme as its predecessor. Especially when the anime always has tried to play up Oshawott as the next big thing, too.

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Hmm... where exactly?

I misinterpreted "50% of the Pokemon" as you saying that 50% of Pokemon have big heads rather than the head makes up 50% of the Pokemon in question. Because a lot of Pokemon kind of DO have really big heads. And the Chespin/Oshawott comparison picture baffles me because, if anything, it reveals how much those two don't have in common; they have differently shaped eyes, noses, tails, paws, ears and mid-sections. >_> Also, a LOT of Pokemon have the little reflective white spot in their eyes like Chespin and Oshawott do. It's kind of a standard anime artistic technique.

I like how this was supposed to be a discussion about the new pokemon and turned into bashing the old ones. Sigh.

Anywho, if I do end up getting this game, I think I'll go with Chespin. I like him. I actually adore all the starters, although I know deep down besides maybe Fennekin they'll evolve into ugly pokemon

I think I'll pick up Y. Yveltal looks pretty cool, and I know it's been done a lot, but I like the flying-type legendaries. No offense to X Version, but the legendary reminds me too much of the Swords of Justice, especially Virizion in a way.

I really do like the new pokemon. I feel they are very original design wise and Fennekin looks like we are finally leaving the Fire/Fighting age. I hope the next issue of CoroCoro focuses either on revealing more new pokemon or a new pokemon that will be revealed in the 16th movie.

Damn I'm late to this thread haha but found it appealing none the less. I think this might be the first time I ever break away from the fire chain I started so long ago with Charmander in Red in 5th grade, but Chespin and Frokie are just calling my name. Also I hope that they don't turn all cute counter to what I saw some say in this thread I mean I want a badass fully evolved monster of destruction that I send out to bash brains, not a cute little thing that I'd wanna pet.

As far as the legendaries go I started out digging Yvetal but after a while Xerneas just crept up on my awesome meter. So I'll probably be going with X for this one. (Plus it matches my name! )

Oh, I am definitely going with Fennekin. Like MrDeadlyBootz said, I'd rather they go super murderous rather than stay cute and cuddly. And I'm also hoping Fennekin stays quadrupedal. So far only Quilava and Tepig have been four-legged fire starters, but they've eventually gone two-legged. I don't know why, but I'd rather Fennekin be an actual fox type, staying on all fours. And as for the Legendary Pokémon, I think they're both awesome. I don't know which one I'll pick. I think I'll wait and see which Pokémon are version-specific before I decide.

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I actually think the contrary, as far as designing goes I think these are just as original as the 1st gen. Why is that? Because when your job is to create a bunch of little creatures that are all in the same world they have to be similar otherwise it's counter productive. They look like Pokemon, would you say that a chimp is unoriginal because it looks like a small gorilla? Or that a lion is unoriginal because it bears similarities to the ancient smilodon? I doubt it. They look like a what the designers who made the 1st Pokemon would make as the 650th just new designs that have to be similar to old ones yet not look like they belong in another anime yet still look fresh enough to not bore but still .... and it could on and on. It's not an easy job and criticism makes it harder. If this gen would have come out first the same thing would be getting said about the Kanto region

I actually think the contrary, as far as designing goes I think these are just as original as the 1st gen. Why is that? Because when your job is to create a bunch of little creatures that are all in the same world they have to be similar otherwise it's counter productive. They look like Pokemon, would you say that a chimp is unoriginal because it looks like a small gorilla? Or that a lion is unoriginal because it bears similarities to the ancient smilodon? I doubt it. They look like a what the designers who made the 1st Pokemon would make as the 650th just new designs that have to be similar to old ones yet not look like they belong in another anime yet still look fresh enough to not bore but still .... and it could on and on. It's not an easy job and criticism makes it harder. If this gen would have come out first the same thing would be getting said about the Kanto region

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