B A N E wrote:
planetmaker,
I don't mind the 3's as much as I mind the 15 for the CofM.
I can see the logic due to the different mine decay sequence,
but as a crystal, I'd much rather have zero.

Sure, as Tholian, you'd like to see it that way. But it would increase the effectiveness of webs in comparison with timhost. There you always have the option to fly directly to the edge of a field, do not suffer any drains or mine hits, sweep the field and then continue savely. That is provided no field gets extended, of course. You don't have this possibility with phost. IMO setting the mine sweep range to something small, but positive will allow you to exercise this tactics with phost, too. Indeed, I do , and like it.

@hennef:
The detailed settings, depend upon ship list. Especially the settings for plist 3.x should not be considered without context. The pconfig settings were tailored to match the ship list and even out the strength of the different races. Don't judge the strength of a single race from a single setting. And rest assured, that no single race is really favoured; e.g the CofM were penalized by reducing the ramscoop rate to 1/LY. Input for the ship list and pconfig settings was from so many people that single preferences should have cancelled out.

I could see the CoM can sweep WEBmines twice the distance 6lys, but not five times the distance. I think coupled with the 3600 WEBmines sweeping and the additional 600kt of fuel, would make capturing the Atlanta next to impossible for a Tholian.

Commodore Cherek, IRJTN wrote:I think coupled with the 3600 WEBmines sweeping and the additional 600kt of fuel, would make capturing the Atlanta next to impossible for a Tholian.

In order to capture a ship, you sure know, the Tholian needs to keep it INSIDE the field - this way the ship can sweep regardless of the minesweepdistance. Also Tholians don't have a weak ship list anymore - Diamond / Silicon Avatar combos kill every flag ship save Exterminator and DeathStar.

The argument is, unfortunately I don't find the link to the propper page on the vagabund, that webs are more meant to be a tactical advantage (with plist) than a capture possibility - which they still are.