This thread is about MW3 not BF3 which indicates that you are the fanboy. I'm just keeping the discussion on topic here. Yes, MW has had tweaks and I've said as much but the gameplay is essentially the same. All the points I've made to you were to get you to see why MW3 has done well . Not to cater to a MW3 vs BF3.

And you have to admit a lot of your points were rebuffed by the examples I've provided. The blue tint is there. The blinding sunlight is a problem when compared to crysis. The squad leader doesn't do much to promote team play, etc all point to what people don't like about the game and could possibly explain why they prefer MW3 even though it's dated (some believe it to be a rehash of MW2).

MW3 isn't about team play, it never was. It's pure run and gun/lone wolfing and that's what people like. BF3 on the other hand should be all about team play and some of the team play elements left out the game needs to be added back. You think those elements are fine but I tell you that people don't agree with you.

So it's clear we won't agree but what can't be argued are the results. MW3 sold over twice as much as BF3 and there is no denying that. Although the reason will vary it's clear that a bug free, fun game that caters to what people like goes a long way in making a game popular and profitable.

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Nope you are just trolling and I am done playing with children.

Good job MW3 for attracting these kind of people. This is why I don't play you.

Wii was out selling ps3 and xbox dose that mean it's was better? NO.
MW3 = Dressed up casual trash.
BF3 = Playable benchmark for graphics nerds to have a boner and play at the same time.
So many years have gone past and still no modern day FPS is as good as Count Strike was.

Wii was out selling ps3 and xbox dose that mean it's was better? NO.
MW3 = Dressed up casual trash.
BF3 = Playable benchmark for graphics nerds to have a boner and play at the same time.
So many years have gone past and still no modern day FPS is as good as Count Strike was.

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Speaking beyond the truth.

Nothing was as good as blasting that desert eagle and watching flimsy body's shoot across the halls.

Wii was out selling ps3 and xbox dose that mean it's was better? NO.
MW3 = Dressed up casual trash.
BF3 = Playable benchmark for graphics nerds to have a boner and play at the same time.
So many years have gone past and still no modern day FPS is as good as Count Strike was.

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Define "better".

Who gets to set the standard of "good"? Faceless Internet personas? Get over your self-importance, the world is bigger than TPU, hardcore gaming communities and basements.

COD MW3
Graphics = Very out dated worse looking that blackops no jump to DX10 or 11
Physx = None bullets though walls ??
Movement = Unrealistic/Fast like you weigh nothing but that's Arcade style movement which i dont mind but i find MW3 feels like it railed compared to blackops.
Team Work = Not needed in any game mode

BF3
Graphics = Great on par with today's standards
Physx = Great holds the lead with destructible worlds
Movement = Realistic and slow like your carrying the weight of a real soldier
Team Work = Dependent in most game modes

COD MW3
Graphics = Very out dated worse looking that blackops no jump to DX10 or 11
Physx = None bullets though walls ??
Movement = Unrealistic/Fast like you weigh nothing but that's Arcade style movement which i dont mind but i find MW3 feels like it railed compared to blackops.
Team Work = Not needed in any game mode

BF3
Graphics = Great on par with today's standards
Physx = Great holds the lead with destructible worlds
Movement = Realistic and slow like your carrying the weight of a real soldier
Team Work = Dependent in most game modes

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definitely your thoughts

I can throw team work and movement out the window. I completely agree with you on the physx and partially agree with you about the graphics. the graphics arent very out dated but they could definitely be improved

I can throw team work and movement out the window. I completely agree with you on the physx and partially agree with you about the graphics. the graphics arent very out dated but they could definitely be improved

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For today's standards in graphics there out dated they were fine around 2009 when MW2 come out but should be DX10 by now.

the response was a bit lukewarm, which is odd, considering how well it sold.

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how is that odd? it needs to be bought and experienced in order to have a response to it. it sold because so many people wrongly assumed it would be improved, now you see half the kids who waited hours in line talking about how bad it is, and that takes something special to accomplish imo. those kids are likely to love it no matter what, so they had to screw something up bad to disappoint.