Being the computer idiot that I am, I called Garmin and let them walk me through the steps needed to get the maps to work on my GPS. I am using a Mac, not a pc, the guy who helped me with getting this all up and running again was a pc guy and had a hard time helping me as he was not that well versed in how a Mac works.

That being the case, I am not confident that I could delete the maps get the them reloaded and have them work properly. As it is now I can use city nav, I just can't have the sd card with the topo maps installed in the GPS when I want to use city nav.

There have been many changes on how the Montana works since the last time I used it and the software has been up dated, I just returned recently from a month long trip to Australia where I used dare I say it "paper maps", having been away from the GPS and not using it for that lenght of time I have forgotten most of what I had learned. I am tellin ya, not having much a functional memory and trying to learn and retain new things computer and GPS related is kinda phucked.

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Dave,
Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought your CNNA was NOT working. If things don't work correctly when the SD Card is installed then there is a problem with the maps installed there. I use a Mac most of the time. The Garmin MapInstall program will install your maps.

If you put your SD card into a card reader and plug that into your USB port then start MapInstall, it will show you what maps you can install.

The tempe appears to be sealed: i.e, the battery compartment has an o-ring and I don't see any other air holes. So, yes, when it's in the sun it heats up faster. It doesn't change temp rapidly but works well enough. Won't be able to see how temp is reported in BaseCamp until I get home.

Cheers,

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Dan, did you figure out how the temp is reported in Basecamp? I have just hooked my 650 to the computer & can't find anything dealing with Temp. I was wondering if you have to have Track recording turned on &/or have a route enable for some info to be captured.

When you have the uSD card installed, can you see the maps on the uSD card in [Setup | Map | Map Information]? Which maps show enabled, and which show disabled?

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Howdy atlas,

This is what displays when the sd card with topo maps is installed in the GPS.

I have absolutely NO IDEA of what any of those birds eye things are, they were all disabled BEFORE the GPS was repaired and returned so those setting are the same as in the past when I could see both the city nav and the topo maps on the information screen.

These photos are of the information screen with the topo loaded sd card REMOVED from the GPS.

This is what displays when the sd card with topo maps is installed in the GPS.

I have absolutely NO IDEA of what any of those birds eye things are, they were all disabled BEFORE the GPS was repaired and returned so those setting are the same as in the past when I could see both the city nav and the topo maps on the information screen.

These photos are of the information screen with the topo loaded sd card REMOVED from the GPS.

I hope the photos show what I have been attempting to describe.

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Interesting.

I suspect somehow the CN NA NT and the US TOPO 100K may both be using the same MAP ID (or similar internal ID) creating a conflict, and can therefore only display one or the other.

The Garmin Montana Wiki doe have some information for sending maps to your GPSr for both PC and MAC.

I have not seen your issue before, and am very interested in why your Montana is behaving this way. I also would suggest re-sending the Topo maps to your Montana.

As for the BirdseEye Select files, they ship automatically installed to allow users to see how they appear in different parts of the world. You can safely delete the like named *.jnx files from the Montana\Garmin\BirdsEye\ directory, and the 'BirdsEye Demo.gpx' from Montana\Garmin\GPX\ directory.

Dan, did you figure out how the temp is reported in Basecamp? I have just hooked my 650 to the computer & can't find anything dealing with Temp. I was wondering if you have to have Track recording turned on &/or have a route enable for some info to be captured.

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Nope. I'm still in Glacier Park. Lodge now has WiFi in the lobby but I only have my iPad with me. Too bad Garmin isn't going to make a real BaseCamp for iOS.

well I had my first good day with the Montana. I put it on my KLR650 using a rugged mount and powered by the bike and had ZERO problems with it....some interstate lots of back roads and dirt roads...no issues.

So my problem on the other bike is specific to that bike.....

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Excellent!

Good to hear it's not the Montana or the rugged mount. Hopefully it will be something simple about the other bike that is causing the issues.

I've got the Montana wired into my 690 using the rugged mount, and fitted with the Garmin original bsttery.

It charges and works fine, except that I keep getting an error saying the battery is not supported, please use OEM parts, and then when I switch the bike off (the mount is wired through the ignition) it says battery low, even when it isn't.

I've got the Montana wired into my 690 using the rugged mount, and fitted with the Garmin original bsttery.

It charges and works fine, except that I keep getting an error saying the battery is not supported, please use OEM parts, and then when I switch the bike off (the mount is wired through the ignition) it says battery low, even when it isn't.

Any ideas?

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That's the same old "loose battery" problem. Stuff one or more foam earplugs under the battery cover and that should fix it.

Thinking about making the switch. The only thing that holds me back is lack of BT voice prompts. Have there been any rumors of adding this to future units?

I don't want to get everyones panties in a bunch, but I just want something works. It seems there are still some occasional software issues with these units? Its a good thing Garmin has so many free beta testers out there with their units.

Also, this might be a dumb question, but I couldn't find the answer. I assume this unit is glove friendly?

Thinking about making the switch. The only thing that holds me back is lack of BT voice prompts. Have there been any rumors of adding this to future units?

Also, this might be a dumb question, but I couldn't find the answer. I assume this unit is glove friendly?

Sorry for mucking up a great thread with my mundane questions:eek1

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I don't think Garmin will ever add BT, but there are ways of making the audio available through BT dongles, etc. I can get the audio output from the wired plug into my Scala Q4 but the Scala assigns the lowest priority to wired audio so it isn't very reliable.

Re: Glove friendly. Yes. Winter gloves are a little harder to use just because you can't select the icons properly.

Thinking about making the switch. The only thing that holds me back is lack of BT voice prompts. Have there been any rumors of adding this to future units?

I don't want to get everyones panties in a bunch, but I just want something works. It seems there are still some occasional software issues with these units? Its a good thing Garmin has so many free beta testers out there with their units.

Also, this might be a dumb question, but I couldn't find the answer. I assume this unit is glove friendly?

Sorry for mucking up a great thread with my mundane questions:eek1

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I use a Sena SR10 to get the Montana Audio into my Bluetooth headset. The only issue I have is the SR10 closes the connection when its not receiving an audio signal. Then when it gets one it opens back up However there is about a 1 second lag so you tend to miss the distance to the next turn or only hear part of it. I wish the Montana would play a tone like my Nuvi before it speaks as this would solve the problem. The current fix is you can tell the SR10 to keep the channel open. the down side is you won't get any audio from anything else...like music via phone.

I use a Sena SR10 to get the Montana Audio into my Bluetooth headset. The only issue I have is the SR10 closes the connection when its not receiving an audio signal. Then when it gets one it opens back up However there is about a 1 second lag so you tend to miss the distance to the next turn or only hear part of it. I wish the Montana would play a tone like my Nuvi before it speaks as this would solve the problem. The current fix is you can tell the SR10 to keep the channel open. the down side is you won't get any audio from anything else...like music via phone.

Over all I'm happy with the setup.

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I am using the SM10 from Sena with my SMH10 headsets & the only problem I have is that the audio from the Montana isn't loud enough to be heard when riding at highway speeds & having music playing. But have learn't to mute my K1200lt music when I need Karyn to tell me were to go!
On my 1150GSA there is too much wind noise to hear anyway, so I just check ever now & then to see if I have a turn coming up.
I have logged a request to Sena to increase the muting or increase the volume on the AUX port.

For those that have the tempé wireless temp sensor, the temps are recorded along with your tracks.

I have my tempé attached to the short lanyard on my Montana (as I showed previously) and when I'm out hiking the Montana is in a soft case clipped to my pack shoulder strap with the tempé sitting outside the zipped case. I don't let it sit in the sun when I'm stopped for any length of time and if there is no tree cover I just unclip it and put it in my pack pocket. It seems to track reasonably well compared to my little REI thermometer which is clipped to the pack.

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Well, I've managed to get by with my iPad and iPhone for all things non-Garmin. I do use my MacBook Air when I'm on tour since I do need to have BaseCamp and tour GPS data available. Everything else I can do on my iPad or iPhone.

So far Garmin has totally blown the iOS effort. Their GPS software is marginal and at times quite laughable - like having a Trip Log (Track Log) and not being able to do anything with the track - other than see it on the map. You can't get the data out of Garmin's software. Very handy
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I may be on to what is causing interference in my Montana's circuitry and subsequent crashing.

On both my KLR and my Versys I have LED auxiliary lighting. Similar but different wattage units.

On the Versys I been getting consistent crashes at higher RPM when connected to the bikes power. When on internal power only ( yet still in the Rugged mount), I get less crashes.

This led me to beleive there is some sort of Radio (RF) interference causing the crash.

On the KLR the Unit is stable..no crashes at all RPM ranges. However I did notice that using my Sena SR10 bluetooth dongle I was getting a lot of static that I realized was caused by the LED auxiliary lights...turn them off the noise is gone...

So this got me thinking....could the LED lights on the Versys be the cause of the crashes. Every test I have run so far, those lights were on...never occurred to shut them off. The LEDs are a little diffrent between the bikes so it may be the ones on the Versys are producing a different frequency the Montana doesn't like, Aslo using the SR10 on the Versys does not have the interference issue....it all could be coincidence but its worth pursuing.
I am rewiring a lot of things on the bike so I can't test my theory right away but I thought I would share my hypothesis.

I'm glad the problem seems to be with the bike rather than the Montana. I am confident I can track down the cause on the bike....I may swap rugged mounts to rule that out.