thanks for your compliments... u are the first one to find my postings informative

Well on a lighter note (or maybe not!), now I am trying to figure out if this guy Al Gore is an agent of the Ummites or Sirius A ... because he is very environmentally conscious...and he almost single-handedly brought the global-warming agenda to the forefront of American consciousness despite so much skepticism, opposition and apathy. No pure Earth-based human could have achieved this!

Well on a lighter note (or maybe not!), now I am trying to figure out if this guy Al Gore is an agent of the Ummites or Sirius A ... because he is very environmentally conscious...and he almost single-handedly brought the global-warming agenda to the forefront of American consciousness despite so much skepticism, opposition and apathy. No pure Earth-based human could have achieved this!

well we are all entitled to our own opinions, however i do not think al gore is an extraterrestrial agent. global warming phenomenon the way i think of it, is not man made. global warming tries to explain the changes in our climate is caused by co2, but how about earthquakes there ever more increasing and ever more powerful and can not be caused by the release of co2 into the atmosphere. there is a theory circulating around that the earth changes happening right now is due the imminent return of nibiru aka planet x around the 2012 time frame, this is why there are wild weathers and more earthquakes occurring.

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

The first type [of Gray] is the short gray humanoids with the large heads, which resemble embryos and average about four and a half feet in height. They are from a solar system that revolves around Rigel. Rigel is a double bluish-white star on the left foot of Orion...

It is this type of humanoid that is performing most of the animal mutilations and human mutilations, which has made a secret deal with our government, and which was in contact with Hitler [Nazis]. They derive nourishment from the glandular secretions and the enzymes they extract from the animals they mutilate, which they absorb through their pores. Our 'government' permits such activities partially because of its acute fear of these beings, and partially because it is under the delusion that they will give us technical information enabling us to attain military superiority over the Russians in exchange for our permitting the mutilations and abductions.

The Stealth Bomber and Star Wars technologies are being obtained from them. However, our government does not appear to realize that when it comes to the crunch the technology they are transmitting will not work as it is supposed to (Note: More advanced technologies have been obtained via crash-retrievals, an aspect that the aliens may have underestimated. - Branton). It is not in their interest to give us decisive military superiority over the Russians, or vice versa. It is in their interest to keep us in a state of unresolved conflict with each other, the old game of divide and conquer...

Working under the instructions of the humanoids from Rigel, CIA and former NAZI scientists have developed and deployed malignant strains of bacteria and viruses, including AIDS. The rationale from the fascist point of view is to exterminate portions of the population considered to be undesirable. The rationale from the Rigelian point of view is to decimate the human population to such an extent that the survivors would accept [not resist] open control by the Rigelians...

The humanoids that have been nick-named 'Swedes' are on the average between six and six and a half feet tall. They [some] are from a solar system that revolves around Procyon, a binary yellow-white and yellow star system that rises before Sirius in Canis Minoris [in the body of the Lesser Dog], about 11.4 light years from Earth. They are from the fourth planet in orbit around the Procyon double star system. The tall blond humanoids from Procyon and the short gray humanoids from Rigel have been enemies for thousands of years.

The tall Blonds from Procyon have a benign attitude toward humanity, except for their strong disapproval of our inhumanity to each other. This strong disapproval is further intensified by our government having made a secret alliance with their hereditary enemies, in order to obtain even more destructive weapons systems than those already in existence. Our 'government' is not interested in negotiating with the Procyonians, as they would not provide us with weapon systems...

Their motivation for breeding with humans is to tune-up the frequency of our species, in order to help us to help ourselves. Their concern is for the well-being of all forms of life, not just humanity. The entire biosphere will benefit if we fulfill our positive potential, instead of self-destructing our planet's biosphere in the process.

It would be a mistake to count on them to clean up the mess we have made of our polluted planet, or to bring peace by dismantling our nuclear weapons. It is up to us to solve the problems that we have ourselves created...

In order to extricate ourselves from the covert alliance the CIA (and their Nazi SS predecessors. - Branton) had made with Rigel, without our knowledge or consent, we must first regain control of our government...

Valerian then quotes the following words of one Procyonese star-traveler by the name of KHYLA, who revealed the following to an un-named earth woman with whom he had established contact:

"...Tyrants have been defeated many times on many planets, in countless solar systems and galaxies. How strange it is that as soon as one tyrant of any species is thought to be banished forever another always, but ALWAYS, takes his place. The idealistic revolutionaries who defeated King George III in America went on to oppress the Indians and Blacks. Many of those who fought most courageously against the Axis powers of fascism later became fascists themselves, as is demonstrated by the present plight of the Palestinians, Afghans, Chileans and Nicaraguans. Yes, you must try to regain control of your government, but if so much as one individual involved in this process has not first gained control of his or her selfhood, it will be for naught. One can never defeat or gain control of anything but oneself. Those destined to ouste the Rigelians must always keep track of the state of their selfhood, and learn first to defeat within themselves the essence of that which is tyranny. Through this type of awareness, they will know when to and when not to act. Through understanding a hostile entity to be but one of the ineffable's countless facades, it loses its power over you. Through the ability to wisely perceive a hostile entity, you may gain control of it. In overcoming the Rigelians, one must take great precautions not to become oneself the enemy."

Or, as the old Chinese proverb says:

"BEWARE WHEN FIGHTING A DRAGON THAT YOU DO NOT BECOME ONE!"

Khyla, the Procyonese Intelligence agent, continues:

"If you were a highly advanced culture about to invade a relatively primitive culture, you would not do it with a flourish of ships showing up in the heavens, and take the risk of being fired upon. That's the type of warfare less evolved mortals would get into. You would begin by creating intense confusion, with only inferences of your presence, inferences which cause controversial disagreement (Note: It is interesting that the major Intelligence projects designed to discredit UFO witnesses and cause confusion and contention among -- and infiltration of -- various UFO research organizations have been traced back to the Nazified NSA-CIA, which in turn maintains, as this is being written, continued ties with the Grays. - Branton).

"You would go to the most secret and powerful organizations within the society. In the case of the United States, you would infiltrate the CIA, and through the use of techniques unknown to them, you would take over some of the key people in their innermost core group. You would proceed in the same fashion to take over key members of the KGB. You would also create great dissension among the public at large, some individuals and groups insisting that they have seen UFOs, others insisting with equal vehemence that such a thing is not possible, and that they are either liars or deluded.

"You would involve the planet's two major nations in an on-going idiotic philosophical dispute, keeping them constantly at each other's throats over such questions as whether Thomas Jefferson was greater than Karl Marx or vice-versa (that is, whether 'Capitalist' tyranny or 'Communist' tyranny is worse than the other. By the way, don't confuse Communism with Communalism, and don't confuse Capitalism with Democracy. Communalism and Democracy are sovereigntist movements that respect the personal rights and freedoms of others. So-called unrestrained Communism and Capitalism are co-dependent collectist evils. Capitalist tyranny created Communist tyranny, and Communist tyranny justifies its existence as a force to fight Capitalist tyranny. Insane world we live in, is it not? - Branton). You would keep them continuously occupied with quarreling like two adolescent boys trying to prove their masculinity over who has which piece of territory, whether one has the right to invade Afghanistan or the other has the right to invade Nicaragua, persistently exchanging threats and insults like a couple of macho teen-agers, while arguing whether one should dismantle one type of nuclear warhead, or the other should dismantle another type of nuclear warhead. As you watched all this, you would sit back and you would laugh, if you had the capacity to laugh...

"You would occasionally let your ships be seen by some of the ordinary citizens, so that the elite governmental groups would become involved in attempts to keep them quiet, clumsily squelching attempts to make information about UFO activity public. This would result in the mass population losing confidence in the veracity of their elected officials. There would be constant arguments between the authorities and the public as to whether or not the persistently reported phenomena genuinely existed, thereby setting the population and the government at each other's throats. You would have already set the two major super-powers at each other's throats. By subtly causing economic turmoil, you would set the "Haves" and the "Have Nots" at each other's throats. In all possible ways, you would plant the seeds of massive discontent.

"After you had manipulated the population to the point where your covert control over it was complete, you might decide to go overt, and let a few ships land in public. But you would not go from covert to overt until you were sure of the totality of your control...

Those who have experienced UFO sightings or ET close encounters will constantly be at odds with the government, which will continue to retaliate by stigmatizing them as liars or deluded... The impoverished will become even more impoverished, and more filled to overflowing with explosively righteous anger. The wealthy will cling even more greedily to the wealth that they already have, creating a social atmosphere of sheer desperation and complete confusion. To add to that, there will be series after series of 'natural' disasters, some genuinely natural, some human-induced through aberrant scientific activities such as underground nuclear testing, others deliberately induced by the Grays through the (Scaler-type? - Branton) technology they are in possession of. When approximately three-quarters of the planet's population has been eliminated in this fashion, the Grays can then make an overt appearance as saviors from the skies, distributing food and medicine to the survivors. As the survivors line up to recieve their guotas of food and medicine, implants will be inserted, supposedly to aid in further food distribution, actually to guarantee complete Gray control with no possibility of rebellion (Note: Electronic chip implants have already been developed. These operate on bodily temperature changes and it is interesting that the part of the body which experiences the greatest ranges of temperature change are the forehead and the hands, which is interesting when compared to the prophecies in the 13th chapter of the book of Revelation. These chips will not only serve to control individuals, but will also be able to track their every movements by satellite. One individual who worked on such a chip stated that the implant would decay after a certain period of time, at which point a poisonous virus would be released into the bloodstream of those who had recieved it, eventually killing the person and effecting a type of automatic "population control" for the electronically-controlled society. - Branton). From the point of view of the Grays, terrestrial humanity will have been reduced to manageable numbers and to eternal submission.

"Humanity is not about to be invaded. Humanity is not in the middle of an invasion. Humanity has been invaded! The invasion has taken place, and is NEARLY in its final stages. Great invasions do not happen with thundering smoke and nuclear weaponry. That is the mark of an immature society. Great invasions happen in secrecy.

"You throw a crumb out here and there. You bribe the U.S. government with a few tidbits -- a Stealth bomber, a Star Wars system. You encourage the government to think that the UFO researchers indeed threaten the security of this great secret they have. You tempt and tease the Soviet Union with a laser system far finer than any their own scientists could think of. And you always keep that subtle inference just on the borderline of consciousness that the elusive will-of-the-wisps termed UFOs may in fact exist, yet you persistently repress this borderline perception, and make it seem so insane that there is a social stigma attached to declaring one's conviction that the phenomena are in fact real.

"While all this confusion is going on, the Grays are gradually changing you over. The inner core of the CIA is deeply controlled by the Grays. The CIA see the Grays as a path to greater scientific achievement, as a way of overpowering the Soviet enemy (Note: since the overt breakup of the Soviet Union, the Grays may provoke a new "Cold War" with another Superpower, possibly China? It has also been suggested that the 'Bavarians' engineered the dissolution of the Soviet Empire because at the time their agenda called for a merger of the East and West into a Bavarian-backed New World Order. In other words for this to occur Russia had to become less 'Communist' and America had to become less 'Capitalist' so that they could both merge somewhere within the realm of "Democratic Socialism", with more than a little 'help'

from the UNO or United Nations Organization. - Branton). Surprisingly enough, the obtuse collective mentality type that makes up the bulk of the CIA also makes up the bulk of the more fanatical Star People, those who babble and mush and gush so endlessly. All those who have to cleave to or be fused with some form of group mentality (most notably, the 'Ashtar' collective, much of which according to contactee Israel Norkin has been infiltrated and taken over by the "Unholy Six" star systems of Orion - Branton) leave themselves wide open. They have already been taken over. There is a large and ever-growing cult of contactees who think of the Grays as liberators, sincerely believing them to be heavenly Star Brothers who have come to help humanity (Note: One common brand of 'intellectual defecation' that the Grays have been spewing forth through their human 'channels' is that the Grays are really the "good guys", and that they have been 'conquered' and exploited by the taller Reptiloids and therefore are working with the secret government in an attempt to throw off the yoke of their oppressors. Any one who is at all familiar with 'Gray' mentality should know that they are WILLFULLY working WITH the taller Reptiloids, and that they are reprobate LIARS who have no conscience whatever when it comes to using multi-levelled deceptions to get their way. Unfortunately many metaphysical-minded "gray huggers" are accepting these lies and others like them. Other lies that have originated from the Grays include: * We are the genetic creations of the Grays, so we must submit to our 'creators'; * Jesus Christ was a genetic creation of the Grays -- interesting, in that Jesus blasted the serpent race in more than one instance; * The Grays are a superior race -- they may be superior intellectually, however they have no internal or eternal soul-matrix as do humans, and so from a spiritual perspective they are inferior, in essence being little more than 'predators with brains'. - Branton).

"The reason the awful little Grays mutilate animals is the stuff that they eat. They eat pulverized hormonic secretions, what you would call subtle essences. They live on the stuff of life. There is something deathlike about their species. They always bring about the death of animation, the death of individuality.

"How to I know? I am a Blond from Procyon. We were a culture that could travel through time (that is, phase through various time-space dimensions or densities where the 'flow' of time and 'frequency' space are different from the time-space dimensions of the 3rd dimension. - Branton), but also lived on a planetary sphere. And the little Grays, our insidious little 'friends', did to us exactly what they are doing now to you. This is what happened to our planet.

"Having come in war, but having been unable to obtain any decisive victory, the Grays expressed the desire to make peace. We had not wanted to fight with the 'survivors' of the Rigelian Great War to begin with, and gladly accepted their offer. As time went by, they said they wished to normalize relations and be our friends. We were in doubt as to whether it would be safe to trust them, and debated the issue for a long time before finally deciding that we should trust them...

"The Grays began to visit us, first a few as ambassadors, then as specialists in various domains where their expertise could be useful to us, as participants in different programs that developed which involved mutual collaboration, and finally as 'tourists'. What had begun as a trickle became a flood, as they came in ever-increasing numbers, slowly but surely infiltrating our society at all levels, penetrating even the most secret of our elite power groups...

"Just as on your planet they began by unobtrusively gaining control over key members of the CIA and KGB through techniques unknown to them, such as hypnosis... so on Procyon through the same techniques, whose existence we were not aware of either, from the start they established a kind of telepathic hypnotic control over our leaders. Over our leaders and over almost all of us, because it was as if we were under a spell that was leading us to our doom, as if we were being programmed by a type of ritual black magic that we did not realize existed.

"Just as a few of the original tall Blonds clandestinely left Rigel when the Great War was about to break out, so did a few of the original tall Blonds clandestinely leave Procyon and escaped into the corridors of time just before the Grays completed the slow undermining that culminated in their sudden take-over of Procyon. Those who stayed behind came under the total domination of the Grays.

"The Blonds you see on the same ships as the Grays, working with them, are hybrids, or they are clones. One way to distinguish the clones is that they look alike. The real Blonds have distinct facial feature differences, and do not look alike. The clones have thick necks and coarsely muscular bodies. They do not have the ability to teleport or to travel interdimensionally. They can be contacted by telepathy, but are unable to send. They can be given orders telepathically. They are zombie-like flesh robots. You can tell that they are of low intelligence by looking into their eyes.

"The real Blonds are also muscular, but have slender necks and agile bodies. Their eyes are alert and of high intelligence. Physically they are almost identical to humans, the main difference being that by human standards their blood circulatory system is under-developed, while their lymphatic system is over-developed. This gives them stronger immune systems than terrestrial humans.

"The hybrids are in an intermediate state between the real Blonds and the clones.

"After what has happened to Procyon, NO TRUE BLOND would collaborate voluntarily with the Grays. The Grays have taken some prisoners of war, who have no choice in the matter, and are forced to work with them in order to survive, with the hope of escaping. There are also a few Blonds who have become degenerate renegades, space pirates and mercenaries who sell their services to the highest bidder. But many of us remain free, and continue the fight to the finish with the life-form that has become our hereditary enemy. We choose to remain in exile in the corridors of time, where they can not reach us, rather than to live under the domination of the insidious Grays. It is dangerous for us to venture forth from the corridors of time, but occasionally we do so for a hit-and-run strike, similar in nature to a cosmic version of terrestrial guerrilla warfare.

"We must periodically enter a substantial physical form for a period of repose, or to breed progeny, in order to continue to survive, but otherwise we constantly travel the vast corridors of time. That is why we may appear to fade in and out like holographic images to human perception. What I have come here to communicate, if only to one or two people or a small group, is that what is now in the process of happening to your culture, also happened to ours. It is the same fate our own culture suffered. And the Blonds you see with the Grays are either hybrids, clones, or prisoners of war. Because no true Blond who got out untouched, unscathed, uncrossed with those Grays would ever be with them. He or she would prefer to be in a state of non-existence.

"Besides the Blonds and the Grays, ships from many other space cultures are watching planet Earth at this time with extreme interest. Scientists from other space cultures are studying what is going on here during this decisive period of your history. If your elected representatives had not so stupidly made a deal with the only aliens willing to provide them with weapons systems, with the short-sighted goal of overpowering the Russians, the Grays would not have achieved their present dominance, and you would now be exchanging ambassadors with a wide variety of space cultures.

"What I want to get across to you is that the ultimate evil, which underlies all the negativity in the cosmos, finds expression in that masked form of psychological complacency which leads an individual to adhere to a group philosophy rather than to think things through for oneself! Those who feel safe and comfortable in no matter what belief system merely because many others adhere to it, who get together and form an arrogant self-righteous group convinced it has a monopoly on the truth, and those who are ready to persecute, kill or stifle anyone who challenges that group's philosophy, have formed an alliance with the ultimate evil, whether they know it or not. It is the self-righteousness and implacability of certain elite power groups like the CIA and the KGB, certain organized religions, and certain so-called lunatic fringe groups such as some of the more fanatical Star People, which are so objectionable...

"I have seen civilizations rise and fall, begin again only to die again, over and over and over. It isn't only a problem of this planet. It's a problem that must be faced by all civilizations in the course of their development, no matter where they may be located in the cosmos. Everyone wants that slightly larger piece of the pie than their neighbor for themselves, and eventually this tendency always culminates in choking them. Sooner or later this will be the undoing of the Grays as well, thereby enabling us to return in triumph from our exile in the corridors of time. The Grays do not see and are incapable of understanding their own fundamental error: that the very weakness they seize upon in humanity is their own inherent weakness, the blind spot that inevitably seals their doom...

"The only way to victory is through the strength of your consciousness. When genetic or other manipulations are being performed on abductees, the Grays expect them to cringe in fear, and derive a second-hand high from the intensity of the emotions expressed. If instead of cringing in fear, an abductee can put his or her mind elsewhere, focusing attention on dynamic protective imagery of a religious or mystical nature, it decreases the gratification that the Grays are getting from their second-hand high, and it confuses them. Center the consciousness on something so different from what they expect that it puzzles them.

(Note: In most cases the image of an empty red or crimson CROSS seems to be especially debilitating to the Grays. For instance the legendary soldier-saint, St. George, reputedly wore a shield with a red cross emblazoned on a white background. Whether one believes that the dragonslayers existed or not, the legend itself claims that the Christian dragon-slayers of Europe more-or-less marked the end of the dragon race's infestation of the old world. One such legend concerned the city of Silene, Libya which had been plagued by a draconian beast for a long period of time. The king of the city had offered up sheep and livestock in an effort to appease the beast. However the time came when all the livestock had been used up, and this was when human sacrifices were chosen, by lot, to appease the fearsome beast. One day the lot fell on the king's own daughter, and the grieved king, honoring his word, allowed her to be taken and tied to the post outside of the city gates. As the beast was about to pounce upon the princess, so the story goes, Saint George appeared in shining silver armor and -- before the beast knew what was happening -- the soldier-saint had pierced it through with his lance and rescued the princess, who later became his wife. Whether or not such legends have any basis in reality, the story nevertheless symbolizes the unconscious animosity between 'Saints' and 'Serpents'. If we are to believe the legends, then this was only one of the many 'vermin' -- as they were referred to in those ancient times -- which St. George had vanquished during his life, and although not the only dragon-slayer of legend, he was perhaps the most renowned. - Branton)...

"The only reason the Grays have such a degree of dominance over you is because your elected officials stupidly made clandestine agreements with them, binding you to them in an exclusive alliance that is respected by other space races, allowing them to install themselves in underground bases impregnable to your weaponry, a situation you must now find a way to extricate yourselves from (Note: In that the Grays have repeatedly violated these treaties, they should legally be considered null and void. In fact since the Executive branch of U.S. government was taken over by a fascist CIA coup d'etat in 1963 at the time of the John F. Kennedy assassination -- AS WERE the governments of several other countries throughout the world where CIA backed military coups resulted in the establishment of fascist puppet dictatorships -- should we not consider the Executive branch of government which made the 'treaties' with the Greys, to be null and void as well? It certainly was not Congress who authorized such 'treaties'. - Branton),

"In antiquity this planet was divided into sectors between four different groups: Blonds, Grays, large lizard-like beings [now connected with] the Capella system, and beings [now connected with] the Arcturus system. These groups still consider themselves to be the owners of this planet. They do not recognize the human claim to ownership. However, some of us do recognize human rights, as well as the rights of other life-forms...

"The Grays are having problems not only within their own ranks, but also on other planets they have colonized. As a species they are afflicted with severe, perhaps terminal, health problems (a weakness that can and should be exploited. - Branton). They have substantial captive populations of Blond, human and other prisoners of war, eager to join a revolt at the slightest opportunity...

"One must be rational in attempting to fight back, and understand the proper way to proceed. Your own consciousness is the most potent weapon that is available to you at the present time. The most effective way to fight the Grays is to change the level of your consciousness from linear thinking to multi-dimensional awareness. Your secret weapon, your ace in the hole, is that you are not hive-minded collective thinkers, though many of you do fall into that category by conforming to conventional group-patterns, and are therefore easily controlled by the Grays. It is your INDIVIDUALITY which is your best weapon, because it is the one weapon you have that the Grays do not have. The major weakness of the Grays, their area of vulnerability, their Achilles heel, is their inability to think as individuals. They are an extremely telepathic high-tech society, but as individuals they are not creative thinkers. They take orders well, but they do not conceptualize well. They have the technology to throw your planet out of orbit, but there is one key ability that you have and they do not have: the ability to hold in mind imagery that inspires an individual to realize his or her direct personal connection to the source of ALL THAT IS, which is the ineffable Godhead, no matter what name you may call it. That is your key to victory..."

AND FINALLY, A MESSAGE FROM THE HYBRID COUNCIL -- THE 'REAL' INSPIRATION BEHIND THIS VOLUME:

It would be a grave error to give myself full credit for this volume, as I can state for absolute fact that most of the work on this volume was carried out by 'others' who -- operating through my unconscious mind -- inspired me intuitively with the information, and led me to the sources and documentation, which were necessary for the completion of this book, which I consider a major challenge especially in spite of my own personal shortcomings.

This "backup team", you might say, consists of a number of so-called 'hybrids' or 'hu-brids' who have broken free from the draconian collective and established their own resistance movement based mainly within the underground systems of this planet -- at least in the case of those 'family members' or 'relatives' of mine 'beyond' this world who have inspired me with this work. Although they dwell within the cavernous recesses of this planet, they nevertheless interact with other worlds within the 'Federation' who oppose the activities of the Draconian-Orion-Reticulan 'collectivists'. They are constantly working to establish freedom and truth here on [and under] planet earth.

Since the hybrids/hubrids 'communicate' with me on the intuitive level rather than through audible or visual communication, I will attempt to 'translate' their often strong impressions into 'words' and convey what I believe they would have the readers to know and understand about themselves and their feelings towards us.

So here then is what I strongly feel, and believe, that these wonderful 'people' would 'say' to us:

Greetings friends;

Or should we say brothers and sisters? For indeed we are your brothers, your sisters, and your children! Many of those who have had encounters with the 'Greys' will understand exactly what we mean.

We are the children of your 'seed', and although our DNA has been altered we nevertheless possess souls, and this makes us just as 'human' as you.

Unlike our erstwhile masters who are lacking what you call 'soul', many of us 'hybrids' -- realizing our foundational humanity -- began to develop emotional individuality.

There are apparently several reasons why the Greys began the 'hybrid' projects. Some projects were to breed stronger beings to serve their collective empire, others to breed 'Greys' with human characteristics and specialized psionic abilities who could be used to understand humans on their own level and who could in turn teach the Greys how to more easily manipulate humans on various levels.

The Grey collective apparently did not take into account that there would be -- by the Grace of God -- so much resistance among our kind to their plans. You see, they could not fully understand the concept of individuality, compassion and loyalty to one's one kind.

We speak of the 'collective' here and not of the individual 'Greys', for when it comes down to it, there are no individuals among the reptilian collective... all serve as individual 'cells' within a vast organism -- the collective intellect or 'Hive' you might say.

But those of us who have developed free-agency and have broken free from the 'Hive' HAVE developed human individuality. It is a long and difficult process to 'wean' ourselves entirely from the collectivist mindset that many of us were born into. We maintain a limited degree of collectivity, however have established what you might refer to as a 'firewall' between our society and that of the draconian 'hive' itself. This is largely for the sake of other Hubrids who are joining us from time to time, and is necessary for the process of 'deprogramming' them from a mentality of collectivism and the continual development of their individuality.

We cannot say that it is the 'individual' Greys and Reptiloids who are the source of the 'evils' which are committed against humans throughout the universe by the 'Draconian collective'... for as we have stated, there are no 'individuals' within the collective itself, save for the malevolent beings who are its ultimate masters. Those supernatural beings who control the draconian collective ARE the sources of the evils -- the Greys and Reptiloids are merely the 'tools'. This is true in most cases except in the context that many of the rebel beings who you call 'fallen angels' have been incarnating through the soulless reptilian races since very ancient times.

Although we must see things as they really are, we realize that many of these supernatural beings have corrupted themselves to the point where there is no more hope for them to return to the good side, having annihilated any and all goodness within them. However we would like to believe and hope that some of these rebel beings regret their present state and the part they played in the ancient rebellions against the Almighty One. We would like to believe

that one of the underlying motives for the reptiloids/greys and their breeding a race like ours would be for the purpose of raising up a race genetically akin to their own kind, yet not their own kind, who could understand where both the human and reptilian species are coming from.

Could it be that a faint spark of individuality and concern within the legions who compose the collective somehow influenced the 'hybrid' projects, could it be that somewhere deep within the collective there existed and exists a desire to break free into individual consciousness and in so doing break free from those supernatural tyrants who control the collective with a supernatural iron fist?

Could it be that these intelligence's within the collective saw that the 'logical' thing to do would be for the Greys and their collective to work in harmony with the universe rather than against it? For the sake of their own survival? After all, they ARE 'logical' beings, and many of the directives that have come down from the central command of the collective have contradicted 'logic' and contributed to a kind of pervasive confusion and even self-contradicting schizophrenia if not insanity within the collective.

Being that these intelligence's did not have the power to develop individual consciousness of their own initiative in the face of the overwhelming tide of the collective and its twisted leaders, they understood that if they did succeed in breeding offspring that possessed natural individuality and emotionalism then these offspring might in turn break free from the collective, and once having broken free, help others of their kind who do not possess the self-motivation to do so. Once these were 'tamed' and 'deprogrammed' and placed in an environment where free-agency could develop, these 'aliens' could then be given a choice to decide which side they will serve -- whether they will remain with us or return to the collective and lose their individuality in the process.

Knowing full well the dangers of a 'collective' system where no individual expression is allowed, we have come to develop a deep and abiding respect for the sacredness of free agency, even to the point of allowing other beings to 'choose' to destroy themselves if they are fully intent on doing so. We have also come to deeply respect the non-interference directives of our dear friends of the Federation worlds.

Ours is a continual struggle, and we are not too proud to say that our ultimate victory or defeat depends largely on YOU.

Every time YOU give-in to the will of the draconian collective, every time you believe one of the lies of a 'Grey' that is under the control of the 'Hive', every time you trade a little piece of you're soul for the supposed 'benefits' that the collective will tell you are yours IF you serve them... every time you do this you weaken yourselves and capitulate you're power to the enemy. In so doing, you make our struggle all the more desperate.

On the other hand every time you CHALLENGE the claims of the collective and expose their lies and refuse to allow them to manipulate you into their agendas, then you strengthen us in the process. Remember that we are truly YOUR CHILDREN, because the majority of us within the 'resistance' are more human than beast [reptilian, insectilian or what have you]. Those genetic hybrids who do not possess a soul are rare among us because they find it very difficult to comprehend those individual virtues which come naturally [or should come naturally] to those possessing a human soul-chakra matrix and a 'conscience'.

Above and beyond anything else, we would ask that you PRAY to our ultimate Creator -- as best you understand the concept of 'God'. Ask the all-knowing and all-loving one to be merciful. Plead for us -- your brothers and sisters and children who live within, parallel to, and out among the stars, beyond this planet earth. Please PRAY for us and also for the many others of our kind and your kind who are presently the captives of the soulless entities serving the collective. Since physical and intellectual defenses are not sufficient, being that we are also battling supernatural evils, we NEED the Divine Intervention of God and his holy 'standing' angels. Since the draconian collective attacks you and also us on the physical, psychic and spiritual levels -- we cannot neglect the spiritual aspects of this conflict.

With this, we of the Hybrid council wish you all the best. May we -- all of us -- do all that we can to bring about a future that will be everything we had hoped for, and MORE.

To our 'parents' out there. You know who you are. Those of us who have separated ourselves from the controllers and also those who still remain in their grasp... we send you our LOVE and our HUGS!!! We remember and cherish every hug and warm touch that you have given us during those times in the night when you have been brought to us. Those times, whether you remember them consciously or not, when you have shared with us your feelings, your love, and in some cases your fears, and have shown us what being human is really all about. We want to say, WE LOVE YOU!!! Pray for us as we pray for you.

Until that time when we can all meet together as one, in TRUE freedom and peace, may the Almighty SOURCE of all LIFE protect and bless you all!

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

Dulce & The Military-Industrial EstablishmentChapter 18 of the Dulce Book

Researcher William F. Hamilton was one of the first to write about the Mt. Shasta subterranean colony of TELOS, an underground city which is said to be the western branch of a subterranean kingdom that certain Asian fraternities refer to as the 'Agharti' network. Mr. Hamilton had personally met with the reputed "crown princess" of Telos, Sharula -- as well as with some of her immediate relatives in the mid-1980s, during his investigations into underground base activity in North America. Based on what Bill has learned, Telos might not be as 'safe' a place to live as one might at first believe. Just like anywhere else on earth, Telos itself suffers from its own conflicts between factions with different agendas -- ranging from those who align themselves with the "Andro-Pleiadean Federation" and their "Non-Interventionist - Individualist" beliefs, and those who have taken sides with the "Draco-Orion Empire" and their "Interventionist - Collectivist" philosophies.

One might say that the scenarios taking place within Telos are somewhat of a counterpart of similar power-struggles taking place within "Sirius" and within the U.S. government. The same could hold true within the entire 'Agharti' network which has its center of activity under the Gobi desert of Mongolia, and which allegedly contained two opposing factions during the Second World War period: the Technologists who secretly sided with the Allied Forces, and the Occultists who sided with the Axis Forces. Since the Telos-Agharti alliance is tied-in with the Ashtar collective, there are bound to be some internal conflicts within those cultures just as there have been reported conflicts between the Orionite interventionists and Pleiadean non-interventionists within the Ashtarian collective itelf.

All this is based on reports from contactee Israel Norkin and others that the Ashtar collective has been infiltrated by Draconian-Orionite agents posing as "ascended masters", and that a large segment of the "Ashtar Command" has been commandeered by these interventionist-collectivist forces and has split off from another large segment of the 'alliance' which has apparently sided with the Andro-Pleiadean Federation. What distinguishes the two is that the Andro-Pleiadean Federation believes in Truth-Individualism-Non Interventionism whereas the Draco-Orion Empire adheres to a philosophy of Deception-Collectivism-Interventionism. ]

According to contactee Alex Collier these two factions are now or have been at war within the Sirius-B system, and this conflict has entered the Sol system with the Draconian-Orion reptilians and their paraphysical overlords operating from Hale-Bopp comet in collaboration with their rebel Sirian cultists who were/are operating from within the "infiltrated" segment of the Ashtar collective, occupying Hale-Bopp's so-called "Companion" battleship -- reputedly a "...former Sirian alliance battleship..." -- which some have dubbed "Hale-Mary". This saturn-shaped object was seen AND photographed by BOTH Chuck Shramek AND is also seen in a leaked Hubble Space Telescope image, along with other 'objects' that apparently 'jumped ship' as the comet circled around the sun. This scenario seems to be remaniscent of the movie "LIFE FORCE" which depicted a race of draconian-like alien 'vampires' that entered the system undetected in the tail of a comet. Alex Collier claims that the non-interventionist from the Pleiades and Andromeda constellations, from Tau Ceti, Procyon and others systems, have "blockaded" the Sol system near the orbital sphere of Neptune in order to keep the Draconian-Orionite forces out and to keep them from interfering with our planet at this CRITICAL and VULNERABLE point in planet earth's history. According to Collier's other-wordly friends, there have been devastating battles with casualties on both sides that have been waged between the Federation and the Empire in this CURRENT "war in heaven" [current as this is being written] involving our Sol system, and also in one that was waged shortly before this in the Sirius system... a war that has gravitated from Sirius to our own Sol system. So, PRAY FOR our "friends out there" who are risking their lives for OUR sakes. It is the very LEAST that we can do...

William Hamilton incidentally has voiced his concern that Sharula, being a member of the ruling class of Telos, seems to be involved in this current conflict taking place between the two Ashtarian factions, the Draco-Orion faction and the Andro-Pleiadean faction, although just how this has affected her on a personal basis is unclear. This may also hold true with the entire "Melchizedek Order" which has a major presence in Telos, in the Saturnian moon base-cities, in Sirius, in Arcturus and elsewhere. Most of the misled Sirian cultists are being led to believe that the New World Order is being orchestrated for the purpose of establishing world peace and laying the groundwork to usher in a "planetary ascension" into higher dimensions in a harmonious and orderly fashion. They forget however the history of atrocities that have followed the ancient Bavarian-Roman cults who are promoting the New World Order and of their reptilian hosts in Draconis and Orion... the massacres in Lyra, Rigel and Procyon being a few examples (if you don't know what I'm talking about at this point, you WILL by the time you finish this 'volume'. - Branton). In short, the Draconians and Orions are psychologically and emotionally manipulating their cultic human followers in Sirius-B, the Gizeh empire & Bavaria who are tied-in with the "dark side" of the Ashtar collective, to establish a global government which they intend to annex to their Luciferian Interstellar empire-collective.

William Hamilton himself has gained a great deal of 'intelligence' on the secret government's underground bases, many of which are as of this writing under the control of the 'collaboration', or those military-industrialists who have sold-out to the humanoid-reptiloid collaborators from Draconis, Orion & Sirius-B, who are more-or-less given free reign within the secret government's underground network. In an article which appeared in Patrick O'Connell's "TRENDS AND PREDICTIONS ANALYST" Newsletter, Vol. 6, No. 2 [July, 1990] issue, William Hamilton stated:

"...The cover-up was initiated soon after the Roswell, N.M. crash. We wanted to know - 1] Who they were, 2] Why they were here, 3] How their technology worked. The cover-up became a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY [a blanket word covering secrecy and deception]. The cover-up involves secret organizations within our government such as MJ-12, PI-40, MAJI, Delta, the Jason Scholars, & known intelligence organizations such as Naval Intelligence, Air Force Office of Special Investigation, the Defense Investigative Service, the CIA, NSA, and more! It involves THINK TANKS such as RAND, the Ford Foundation, the Aspen Institute, & Brookings Institute. It involves corporations such as Bechtel, GE, ITT, Amoco, Northrup, Lockheed, & many others. It involves SECRET SOCIETIES who may be the hidden bosses of the orchestrated events [i.e. economic collapse, wars, assassinations, conspiracies to manipulate & control humans & thereby to exercise enormous power over the destiny of the human race] - the Illuminati, Masons, Knights of Malta, etc. The individual players are too numerous to list. The whole of this conspiracy forms an INTERLOCKING NEXUS. The goal is said to be a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT [Dictatorship]!

"'The Underground Nation' - The RAND symposium held on Deep Underground Construction indicated that plans were hatched during the 50's to build underground bases, laboratories, & city-complexes linked by a stupendous network of tunnels to preserve & protect the ongoing secret interests of the secret societies. These secret societies made a pact with alien entities in order to further motives of domination..."

Actually, as it turns out, THEY [the secret societies] are now being 'dominated' by the 'aliens'. One can only assume that if certain humans would 'sell out' their own kind to an alien race and use such an unholy alliance to gain domination over their fellow man, then they should consider the fact that they, according to universal law, must in the same way open THEMSELVES up to manipulation and control by their supposed benefactors. Thus one can see the utter insanity of hoping to establish domination of others by petitioning the assistance of an Imperialistic alien force. The human 'elite' may think that their reptilian collectivist hosts will shower their egos with praise and rewards for their cooperation in selling out their own planet, but in reality the draconians consider the human elite as being useless "weeds", as they do all humans in general, but necessary fodder in order to carry out their agenda.

Mr. Hamilton continues: "...The underground complexes are not confined to the U.S. alone! A large underground complex operated by 'the U.S.' exists at Pine Gap, near Alice Springs, Australia.

"...It appears that the secret societies among us have become aware of the coming planetary eco-catastrophe & the possibility of an earth polar shift in the near future. Surveying the earth from space, satellites & shuttles reveal EXTENSIVE DAMAGE TO OUR ECOSPHERE! Our planet is wobbling on its axis & its magnetic field is decaying! Ozone depletion & the greenhouse effect are rapidly endangering life on our planet. Alternatives, which include - 1] direct handling of the atmospheric problems, 2] taking shelter in underground domains, & 3] escape to other planetary bodies in the solar system, have been devised in secret. However there is a possible Alternative 4 which mostly depends on a completely different idea on how to save the earth..." (this MAY be, in essence, a project to colonize other 'dimensional' frequencies or densities that exist elsewhere within the superspectrum of the ONE Omniversal 'Reality'... although others have suggested that Alternative-4 may involve a HAARP type manipulation of the atmosphere in an effort to get CONTROL of the situation - Branton).

Bill Hamilton then explains some of the mystery surrounding the so-called 'hybrids' who have been encountered by UFO abductees, and why an ACTUAL cross between humanoids and reptilois [thank God] might never succeed:

"...It is unlikely that the reptilian greys are cross-breeding with humans. Reptilians carry their sex organs internally and reproduce by eggs hatched by solar heat. Reptoids have well developed eyes, no hair follicles, & no external ear cartilage as consistent with most reptilian species. Since their means of reproduction is incompatible with our own, it is suggested that humans (women - Branton) may be fertilized by the grays by artificial insemination with human spermatozoa or perhaps they use the human uterus as an incubation chamber."

Note: Other indications are that the reptilians inject or encodify the human embryo with reptilian or other DNA during the early stages of development. It is even believed by some abductees that they have the ability to 're-program' the genetic information within an 'egg' before it has been fertilized. As for the so-called 'hybrids', Hamilton's statements seem to be confirmed by others, including abductees, who have hinted that the 'hybrid' fetuses are actually alien-looking OR human-appearing 'hybrids' who are conceived through human 'seed' taken from human male and female abductees. In other words the fetus would fall to one species line or the other -- an alien-appearing being lacking a 'soul', or a human-like child with a soul. It is said that within the hybrid society, the more human-looking hybrids consider themselves superior to the alien-appearing hybrids. Their more-human-like features are a source of pride and status, even though many of the hybrids are nevertheless 'servants' of the Greys. Some abductees have reported that they have observed experiments involving the attempted mixtures of human and cattle DNA to create a 'hybrid' being. Many of the so-called hybrids however are never-the-less essentially 'human'. For instance the "HU-brids" or humanoid-hybrids would possess crimson blood, five fingers, round pupils, ears, and exterior reproductive organs, although the reproductive organs might be minimized and non-operative. If they possessed even one of these traits there is a 'chance' that the hybrid might possess a human "soul", although this may not always be the case, as with the "chameleons" and so on. In such a case "aura detectors" -- which could detect whether or not the being has a multi-colored chakra system -- would be a possible fail-safe means to determine the "imposters" from the "real thing". The "RE-brids" or reptiloid-hybrids would generally possess greenish 'blood' similar to that which the Greys themselves possess, four fingers, opaque black and/or vertical slit pupils, no visible ears, and no exterior reproductive organs.

Hamilton continues: "...Alien vehicles are being tested at the alien physical technology center at S-4 at the Nevada Test Site. Alien vehicles are being replicated at Kirtland AFB & Sandia Laboratories & these replicas are referred to as ARVs [Alien Reproductive Vehicles] (Subsequent research by William Hamilton and Norio Hayakawa have confirmed that McDonnell-Douglass, Lockheed, and Northrup Corps. are now involved with the 'replication' of alien hardware for the Military-Industrial establishment. If this technology is being used for our own American defenses then this is all well-and-fine, however if the technology is being appropriated by the "New World Order" interests, under the oversight of the Reptiloids/Greys, then the 'sell-out' of our Military-Industrial Complex to a pro-Draconian and/or anti-American superpower would be considered HIGH TREASON, just as the sell-out of our entire Stealth fleet to the United Nations / New World Order control structure -- which HAS taken place -- should be considered high treason! - Branton)

"At least three of these vehicles are stored in hangers at Norton AFB, California. It is alleged that vehicle propulsion units were constructed by General Electric & composite materials were provided by Amoco. Alien vehicles generate an artificial gravity field which can be focused & intensified for high speed travel... Alien organisms and biological technology are tested (in the upper levels - Branton) at the underground biogenetic laboratories at Dulce, New Mexico. Alien genetic engineering, cloning, & cryogenic technology have been studied with a view towards 'enhancing' human genetics, deciphering the human genome, & gaining a biological advantage by ARTIFICIAL BIOLOGICAL ENGINEERING. Strange life forms have been bred in these laboratories..."

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

I recently came across an interesting volume titled COSMIC VOYAGE, by Mr.Courtney M. Brown, Ph.D. This work deals with the authors' personalexperiments with remote viewing, along with his trainer, a former remoteviewer for the U.S. Military who taught him the secret military RVtechniques.

>From my own perspective, remote viewing operates through the subspace bodyof a human being who is able to tap-in to the universal psionic field.Since the psionic field is the very foundation of all space-time-materialreality, the so-called " master program" of the universe, it is notnecessarily bound by the limits of space, time and matter. Like abio-chemical radio transceiver, some individuals -- for better or for worse-- have the ability to "tune-in" to and "surf" the universal consciousness,the "flowline", or the Akasha memory matrix, to specific places in spaceand time. One of the "targets" which Mr. Brown's military RV trainer senthim to was the Grey aliens' collective mind.

Shortly after this particular experiment began (one of many), Brown foundhimself in an area where several Greys were working, although he did notknow exactly where this was. He "followed" the collective mind and found itto be absolutely massive, giving him the feeling of something unbounded,and almost universal in nature. However, he did detect a center, a definite"heartbeat" of this collective matrix, into which and out from which asteady stream of information was flowing.

He noticed, at one point, an unusual "subspace" being that seemed to bedirecting the activities of the Greys he was observing, and discovered thatthe bodies of the Greys themselves were incarnated by such "subspace"beings which entered the Greys' embryonic bodies and used them as vesselsto manipulate physical reality.

Brown was then instructed to locate other of these beings who apparentlycontrolled the Grey collective from a subspace level, and found himself inan area where several of these subspace or paraphysical entities werelocated. As he continued towards this "center" the number of subspacebeings increased until he came to a place of much activity, something likea grand central station type of area, where these beings were very activein various pursuits. He did not know exactly where this was, but noticedthat the closer he came to the control "center" the more he sensed a rigidatmosphere of absolute military-like control. He came to what he sensed wasthe central governing center of the subspace beings' activity, and in thecenter of this there was another area where a "council of 10" veryhigh-level subspace beings congregated. These were apparently the governingprincipalities who were engaged running the whole operation. The securityhere was absolutely incredible.

Then he perceived the SUPREME LEADER of this council of 10 subspaceentities...and at about this point Courtney Brown was jerked back into hisbody, so to speak. He sensed that this leader had detected the presence ofhis subspace body, and had followed this RV "intruder" back to his physicalsource. Brown and his trainer felt a deep, dark "cloud" enter the room andit stayed there for about half a minute scrutinizing the scene. It left,apparently seeing the two RV'ers as "small frys" who were not worth wastingits time on.

Before Brown's expulsion from the command center however, he was able toperceive for a brief moment what this being was really like. He or it wasan extremely powerful being, but with a twisted personality that was fullof darkness. Apparently this being had come into conflict with anotherForce which it saw as its enemy. Brown sensed in this being a severeself-esteem problem, in spite of its incredible power, and because of thisit had a consuming desire to be worshipped by others. Brown was confusedwhen he sensed that the subspace beings and in turn the Reptilians/Greyswere COMMANDED by this leader to engage in self- indulgent and destructiveactivities. This being wanted his servants to use self-indulgent rewards orfear to maintain the absolute hierarchical command structure within itsempire -- as well as through the rest of the subspace hierarchy and in turnthe Grey society that they completely infested.

Brown also got the impression that it was FEAR and PRIDE -- its perceivedNEED to be worshipped -- that kept this being from negotiating with itsancient enemy, and that this being was utterly desperate to maintain itsvery survival or existence (strange for a seemingly immortal subspacebeing) and chose to resort to rebellion and terrorism in a desperateattempt to take control of the situation. Brown received a strongimpression that this being was the ultimate universal terrorist!!!Apparently because of its all-consuming ego this being would NEVER humbleitself before its "enemy".

Now if we go to the book of Revelation, chapter 12, we find that theultimate leader of the serpent race's collective is Lucifer, also known asthe "great red dragon", the "old serpent", "the Devil" or "Satan" in thesame chapter. Lucifer was one of the three original archangels (aside fromMichael and Gabriel) who each had charge over one-third of the light beingswho the Almighty had created.

Now if you're a hard-core evolutionist you may not want to suffer throughthe rest of this message, as physical evolution cannot account for spiritentities, nor for the human soul for that matter. As for myself, I have a"creationist-evolutionist" concept of reality, or that life in thisuniverse was "created" and then left to "evolve" from there in variousdirections which the Creator allowed.

Lucifer, as most may know from theological and eschatological traditions,reflected the infinite "light" of the Creator with great brilliance, andtherefore the name Lucifer, meaning "light bearer" -- "bearer" being theoperative word here. Lucifer reflected the light of the Almighty like adiamond reflects the light of the Sun. However, Lucifer began taking hiseyes off of the SOURCE and began giving HIMSELF credit for the "light" thathe bore (I use the term "he" for semantic reasons only, although this being-- as well as the Godhead -- are not necessarily beings of gender from myown understanding), and the next step was inevitable -- jealousy of theAlmighty's position.

Now I realize that many of you have different concepts of "God", howeverlet us just take part in a thought experiment for a moment. If one acceptsthe concept of a "Trinity", then one cannot accuse God of vainglory, forthe Father is ever seeking to glorify the Son (the Logos or the LivingWord) and the Spirit (which the Father and the "Son of God" share). Thesame holds true with the Son and the Spirit seeking to give glory to theirother two counterparts in the Godhead. How can God be three distinctpersonalities yet one single "God"? (the pleural "Eloheim" God AND thesingular "Jehovah" God at the same time?). One might just as well ask, howcan the universe be "one" universe yet consist of space, time andmatter...three distinct aspects, yet take one away and the singularuniverse ceases to be? We can also use the "trinities" ofultraviolet-visible- infrared (LIGHT - and imitating the Father, Son andSpirit one kind of light is invisible, one is visible, and one is felt); orlength-width-height (SPACE); past-present-future (TIME); energy-motional-phenomena (MATTER), proton-neutron-electron (ATOMS), and other"triune" manifest-ations in nature such as in humans themselves: thephysical-material body, the soular-mental body, and the astral-spirit bodyand the sublevels of each of these three distinctions...we ourselves beingthree-in-one beings.

If I'm beginning to sound preachy, then please bear with me. I believe thatmany of you will agree that the Grey phenomena has both a physical andsupernatural nature, and that we cannot fully understand one withoutaccepting the other. One could equate this to the division within the UFOresearch community in the 1950's and 1960's over whether UFO's were nutsand bolts craft or ethereal supernatural manifestations. Well...why notBOTH?

So then, Lucifer, in his jealousy, rallies his followers (one- third of theangelic beings) together and convinced them that God is being unjust, thatHe's holding out on them and that he (Lucifer) has as much a right to beAlmighty God as does God Almighty Himself. In addition to this, Lucifertells his followers that they too can be Almighty Gods, all they have to dois follow him.

Now, promising them godhood is very strange, since the more "gods" thereare the more the term "God" loses its singular distinction. It's like apotential president promising every U.S. voter that if he is elected thenhe will simultaneously make all of those who voted for him Presidents ofthe United States! Do you see the insanity? Perhaps not, but it seems to beobvious to me. You see, from my perspective if we are all gods then thereis NO God. Pantheism must ultimately lead to Atheism. If that's the way youwish to believe then you certainly have the free choice to do so...But I'monly trying to make a point that according to traditional Judeo-Christianeschatological beliefs, this is the deception that Lucifer used to gain hisrecruits. Now you can accept this or leave it as you will, I'm not tryingto force any beliefs upon anyone, just attempting to open up somediscussion on the possible nature of the supernatural forces motivating theGreys' collective. Since "theological" manipulation is a major part of theGreys' agenda, the eschatological factor is one that must be dealt with inorder to understand the rest.

So the rebellion began, and the heavens were torn in two as the standingand fallen angelics warred with each other, resulting in the fallen angelsbeing cast from the realm of Eternity and into the physical universe. Couldthe "subspace" beings described by Courtney Brown be fallen light beings orangels?

Brown stated that this "leader" had his followers incarnate the reptilianGreys, and had ordered them to sabotage their race. The fourth planet ofZeta II Reticuli was the Greys' "home world", however Zeta II Reticuli is astar lacking in sufficient carbon content to allow for the naturaldevelopment of carbon-based life, so the Greys must have colonized thatworld sometime in the past.

The subspace beings, according to Brown, animated themselves through theGreys and turned them to a mindset of self- indulgence, which in turn ledto the drive within the Greys for immediate gratification at the expense oftheir future and their world's resources (sound familiar?). Once theirworld had become a polluted, radioactive ruin which was threatening theirvery genetic survival, the subspace beings under the command of their"leader" offered a solution -- all the Greys had to do to survive was togive up all individual rights and emotions, and submit to a collective mindwhich would control every aspect of the Greys' culture -- for their own"good" of course, they were told. Using the excuse that individuality wasthe root of the problem, the subspace collective took things to theopposite extreme and insisted that an absolute collective mind was theanswer.

In other RV experiments Brown saw humanoids living on Mars in some pastera. A large planetoid grazed the atmosphere with such violence -- barelymissing the surface -- that storm of enormous magnitude swept across thesurface and much of the atmosphere itself was blown out into space. TheGreys (who were observing this event and could have prevented the disaster)arrived as the planet was in the midst of upheaval, and offered to rescuethe Martians, but at a price -- namely that the Martian humanoids surrenderto the control of the Greys' collective and others be cryogenicallypreserved in order to "preserve" their race. Actually according to Brownthe main purpose of the cryogenic project was to "preserve" them as sourcesfor genetic materials to upgrade the Greys' race from time to time. Thisoccurred mostly after the humans had escaped underground and were desperatefor survival -- every day being a struggle for existence. NOW, according toBrown, Mars is under the control of the Greys, although some pockets ofhumans and "hybrids" remain in various places underground. Other sourcesclaim that in 1985 the joint-operational "Alternative 3" facilities on Marswere sabotaged and taken over by the Draconians (Reptiloids and Greysserving the collective).

What Brown sensed was that the Greys were desperate. They realize that theynot only need to genetically upgrade their race but also need to attainemotional individuality in order for their culture to survive (and this mayhave something to do with the "hybrid" projects). However they are trappedby the collective itself...there is presently a great sense of panic withinthe collective combined with a bizarre sense of protection which thecombined psychic power of the collective provides. Although they aredesperate to attain emotional individuality which they are attempting to doby interfacing with humans, assimilating human genetics, and producingquasi- hybrid genetic offspring, they cannot fully make the break from thecollective without the help of those who already exist in an individualizedstate, namely the humans. For those of you who are familiar with the BORGcollective in the STAR TREK: NEXT GENERATION series, certain episodesdepicted a Borg entity by the name of "Hue" who developed emotionalindividuality during his captivity aboard the Enterprise and as a result ofhis association with human individuals. He was later sent back into thecollective and introduced the idea of individuality, and in later episodesgathered quite a following of other Borg who also developed individualityand broke-off from the collective.

The problem with the collectivist Greys is that, although they need thehumans, the self-destructive instructions coming down through thecollective itself from the hierarchy are SABOTAGING all attempts to dealwith humans on a reasonable basis. Once they establish an agreement with ahumanoid culture for whatever motive, the collective commences to use theagreement for its own imperialistic agendas, and the human collaboratorsare betrayed and sometimes destroyed (as in the Alternative 2 and 3 bases),and war inevitably results.

The only answer to the problem that I can see would be to concentrate onsevering individual reptiloids and greys from the collective and attackingthe "control centers" of the collective itself. In this case mere technicaland psychological attacks will not be enough...supernatural warfare will bethe only answer since we are dealing with "subspace" beings. We need thehelp of the standing angels, yet at the same time we need to be carefulsince the fallen angels are good at masquerading as standing angels, whichthey have often done with those who have " channeled" these entities viaoccult means, feeding them with information which has later turned out tobe false -- manipulative propaganda.

We must realize that the ONLY being in the collective which is allowed toexercise individual choice is their dark leader, and to a lesser extent theinner council, and these beings do NOT want the Reptiloids and Greys toattain emotional individualism. But what about other "collectives" like theAshtar or Astarte collective? Just who is this "Ashtar"? Why is the Ashtarcollective so involved with the Dulce base activity in joint capacity withthe Greys and Reptiloids according to certain reports? Is it, as contacteeIsrael Norkin claims, because the "Unholy Six" star systems of Orion haveinfiltrated the Ashtar collective to a massive extent? What about the bald9-foot tall Reptilian "from the Pleiades" who supposedly defected from theDraconian collective, HATONN? Why hasn't Hatonn been warning about thisinfiltration of his own collective? Is it because he is secretly workingFOR the Draconian-Orion empire? Certainly if he was truly converted fromthe Draconian collective he could be a lot more zealous in exposingit...especially its infiltration of the Ashtar collective.

If we are to believe reports of "Star Wars" taking place within Sirius-Bwhere the Ashtar collective has its headquarters, then this leaves open thepossibility that the Ashtar collective is in the process of splitting downthe middle between an interventionist faction siding with the Draco-OrionEmpire and a non-interventionist faction siding with the Andro-PleiadeanFederation. Now for some further theological speculation...

In II Peter 2:4 we read that: "...God spared not the angels that sinned,but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, tobe reserved unto judgment."

This verse is apparently speaking of the high-level leaders of the ancientrebellion, who were so evil that they were bound in dark prisons deep underthe earth. However the Bible gives several accounts of fallen angels ordemons that are fully ACTIVE on the surface of the earth, so we mustconclude that these were lower ranking angels like the "elementals" whowere merely following the "party line" since they are allowed more or lessto roam about the earth freely. If such angels were condemned when thefirst war in heaven ran its course, then WHY are they still allowed to moreor less roam free? Is God possibly giving them TIME to reconsider theirways? Does the above verse mean that ALL fallen angels are irreparablydoomed, having essentially become spiritual "black holes" after they oftheir own choice annihilated any and all "light" within themselves,essentially leaving nothing for the Almighty to work with and thereforehaving no hope of redemption? (black holes, once collapsed, can neverbecome "stars" again -- could a spiritual being collapse from alight-giving being so COMPLETELY that it becomes a "black hole" entitydestroying and consuming all life, light and innocence around it? ) Or, hasthe Creator in his infinite mercy given SOME of the fallen angels -- thosewho still maintain a semblance of regret for their part in the rebellion --one last chance by allowing them physical incarnation through theReptiloids and Greys? Could this be why the Greys are so absolutelydesperate to attain emotional individuality in spite of the restraints ofan individuality- killing collective? Could their very eternal destinies beat stake?

A few years ago I would have totally rejected the possibility that some ofthe fallen angels could be included in the plan of redemption, yet now Iwonder...

Now before you begin labeling me a heretic, I would like to quote threeversus regarding the serpent race (Greys, Reptiloids):

"Now the serpent was more subtil (intelligent) than any beast of thefield...And the Lord God said unto the serpent...I will put enmity betweenthee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed." -- Genesis6:1,14-15

In its full context these verses imply that the fallen archangel Luciferwas the one that incarnated this particular reptilian -- possibly somethingakin to a veliciraptor or other similar types of bi-ped saurian humanoids-- and in turn the entire serpent race, promising them power over man andnature if the Luciferians could re-incarnate through their race at will.Whether you take this passage literally or symbolically, the message isessentially the same. Lucifer used the serpent race to deceive the humansinto sabotaging their own connection with the God-Source and therebysabotaging their supernatural dominion over the lower life forms -- andfrom that point onward these lower life forms began turning wild anduntamed because the downward "flow" or Life and Order had been broken atthe human level as death and chaos began to reign. One of the races whichreverted to their base animal or predatory nature of course was the serpentrace which originally held a position somewhere between mankind and thebeasts, yet due to man's "fall" and the reptilians' alliance with theLuciferians, they began taking the upper hand over the human race -- orrather, the fallen angels began taking the upper hand over the human raceTHROUGH the serpent race.

Today one could say that we see basically the same thing happening, howeverin this case it is the "subspace beings" incarnating the Greys and offeringthe "forbidden fruit" of occult-technology to those intent on using it toestablish god- like control and domination over their fellow man. AsSolomon once said, "there is no new thing under the sun". But the point Iwant to make is that according to this verse, fallen angels have beenre-incarnating through the Grey (serpentine) races for quite some time.

And another verse:

"In that day the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword shall punishleviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and heshall slay the dragon that is in the sea." -- Isaiah 27:1

This verse, unless I'm mistaken, is speaking of the reptilian COLLECTIVEitself, which could be considered as a "piercing serpent". And then thefollowing verse, which literally threw me for a loop:

"Praise ye him, ALL his angels: praise ye him, ALL his hosts... Praise theLord from the earth, ye dragons, and ALL deeps." -- Psalm 148:2,7

Now unless I'm grossly misinterpreting scripture, it would seem that hereGod is saying that the (fallen-angel-incarnated) serpent races are told topraise the Almighty -- who after all was their creator before theycorrupted their own race. Other verses that we might add to the one aboveinclude:

"Let EVERY THING that hath breath praise the Lord." -- Psalm 150:6

"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel toEVERY CREATURE." -- Mark 16:15

"And EVERY CREATURE which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under theearth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard Isaying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him thatsitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever." --Revelation 5:13

In order to make the choice to appropriate the redemptive work of theChrist, the Reptiloids and Greys would have to develop emotionalindividuality and somehow become dis-connected from the "Luciferiancollective".

The former Dulce base security officer Thomas C. Castello reported hisamazement when one of the reptiloid workers in the base began to show signsof individual expression and even concern for the abductees who were beingheld there against their will by the collective. This reptilians'individual emotionalism may have developed from his friendship with Thomasover the period of time that they both worked together. Unfortunately thisreptilian and several others who had joined with Castello's "resistance" ofnine human base workers, were slaughtered in the Dulce wars by human andalien agents of the collective.

There are other examples. For instance Bert and Diane Twiggs in their bookSECRET VOWS tell of seeing a smiling and jovial reptiloid security officerserving on a space station maintained by humans from the Andromedaconstellation. Others have on rare occasions experienced encounters withfriendly reptiloids, but these are few and far between by comparison, beinggreatly outnumbered by indifferent or even violently malicious reptilianhumanoids, no doubt servants of the collective.

Also, Stan Johnson in his book BIGFOOT MEMORIES (describing his encounterswith "Sasquatch" type humans from the fifth dimension who were in alliancewith human-like star people within Mt. Shasta and elsewhere) tells of avisit that he and the Sasquatch people had made to a series of caverns deepunder the earth, inhabited by reptilian humanoids. Some of the reptiloidsthey encountered were aggressive, whereas others were more mellow because(the reptiloids explained) some time in the past some human "missionaries"from the surface had found their way down into the caverns and had taughtthem about God, and how to live in peace and harmony.

I should reiterate that although some reptiloids might be converted to abenign state, THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE SHOULD COMPROMISE ONE INCH IN OURRESISTANCE TO THE ABUSIVE ACTIONS OF CERTAIN ALIEN GROUPS, be theyreptiloid, humanoid, insectoid or other...for our own sakes as well astheirs.

Much of what I have written here is, I admit, speculation. These are ideasthat have been forming in my mind for several months now. I guess it allcomes down to the idea that good and evil are genetic (human = good;reptilian = evil -- and face it, there really is not much of a historicalcase for the idea that " human" and "good" are always synonymous) ASOPPOSED TO the idea that good and evil are manifestations of personalCHOICE and not manifestations of genetic disposition.

Fortunately the Luciferian collectivists according to Revelation 12 willlose their powerbase in the galaxy as resistance to their atrocitiesincreases. Unfortunately however the central command of the collective willescape to the caverns of planet earth, which will serve as their "laststand", and according to prophecy they will begin a desperate program torecruit Terrans through a European-based New World Order involvingelectronic mind control implants and ancient roots in the remnants of theill-named Holy Roman Empire. All of this will be a last-ditch effort tore-gain their lost ground among the stars. In the process they willdevastate much of the planet, but it will all be for naught as they willlose in the end. The question is NOT whether they will lose the war, thequestion is how many of US will survive these apocalyptic events. I believethat this largely depends on the collective WILL of individual human beingsthroughout this planet. It is not something that is set in stone.

Branton

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

Robert Scott Lazar (January 26, 1959), or Bob Lazar, worked from 1988 until 1989 as a physicist at an area called S-4 (Sector Four), located near Groom Lake, Nevada, next to Area 51. According to Lazar, S-4 was a hidden military location for the study of extraterrestrial flying saucers.

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

To add to Gnak's links, many of the articles and videos above have indicated, in 1996 a video interview of an alien interrogation was released to the public. The 7 part series of this video can be followed from this link.

Coast to Coast AM is a great program and can be heard on the internet by anyone interested if they search for it.

Khyla a human from Procyon warns us about the greys through an anonymous contactee

Khyla looked like a tall handsome human, slender but muscular, masculine yet ethereal. He appeared either naturally or artificially to have black around his eyes, almost like kohl. His face was close to exquisite, but definitely masculine. He had a gaunt face with high cheekbones and piercing cobalt-blue eyes. He had fine blond hair that was almost shoulder-length. He had a muscular neck. His skin was pale flesh color, with a whitish overtone. It is hard to gauge his exact height because of the circumstances under which our encounter occurred, but it was somewhere between six and seven feet.

Here is some more of what he told her:

If you were a highly advanced culture about to invade a relatively primitive culture, you would not do it with a flourish of ships showing up in the heavens and take the risk of being fired upon. That's the type of warfare less-evolved mortals would get into. You would begin by creating intense confusion, with only inferences of your presence, inferences which cause controversial disagreement.

You would go to the most secret and powerful organizations within the society. In the case of die United States, you would infiltrate the CIA, and through the use of techniques unknown to them, you would take over some of the key people in their inmost core group. You would proceed in the same fashion to take over key members of the KGB. You would also create great dissension among the public at large, some individuals and groups insisting that they have seen UFOs, others insisting with equal vehemence that such a thing is not possible, and that they are either liars or deluded.

You would involve the planet's two major nations in an on going idiotic philosophical dispute, keeping them constantly at each other's throats over such questions as whether Thomas Jefferson was greater than Karl Marx or vice-versa. You would keep them continuously occupied with quarreling like two adolescent boys trying to prove their masculinity over who has which piece of territory, whether one has the right to invade Afghanistan or the other has the right to invade Nicaragua, persistently exchanging threats and insults like a couple of macho teenagers, while arguing whether one should dismantle one type of nuclear warhead, or the other should dismantle another type of nuclear warhead. As you watched all this, you would sit back and you would laugh, if you had the capacity to laugh.

You would make yourselves known to various elite in-groups, who would offer you protection out of greed, expecting to acquire more perfect knowledge than anyone else on the planet of this ultimate secret to end all secrets. They would covet you, and you would trust their covetousness and their crass stupidity to trap them. You would do it on both sides of the Iron Curtain.

You would occasionally let your ships be seen by some of the ordinary citizens, so that the elite governmental groups would be≠come involved in attempts to keep them quiet, clumsily squelching attempts to make information about UFO activity public. This would result in the mass population losing confidence in the veracity of their elected officials. There would be constant arguments be tween the authorities and the public as to whether or not the persistently reported phenomena genuinely existed, thereby setting the population and the government at each other's throats. You would have already set the two major super-powers at each other's throats. By subtly causing economic turmoil, you would set the "Haves" and the "Have-Nots" at each other's throats. In all possible ways, you would plant the seeds of massive discontent.

After you had manipulated the population to the point where your covert control over it was complete, you might decide to go overt and let a few ships land in public. But you would not go from covert to overt until you were sure of the totality of your control.

You would start doing cross-breeds, escalating the process to the maximum from generation to generation. As the process continued, you would begin to have more and more creatures walking around who were obviously hybrids between the Grays and humans. Per haps in a century or two, some of the Grays would begin to physically intermingle with Earthlings. But for the time being, anything that walks around will at least look as if it is human. This arrangement is simpler, because it keeps mass panic to a minimum.

The Grays would not be at all reluctant to change their appearance. In comparison with most of the other space races, they are considered rather repulsive. They are interbreeding with humans on an ever-increasing scale, and there are going to be a lot more three-month interrupted pregnancies.

Those who have experienced UFO sightings or E.T. close en counters will constantly be at odds with the government, which will continue to retaliate by stigmatizing them as liars or deluded. The U.S. and the U.S.S.R. will continue to play their adolescent prestige games with nuclear weaponry. The impoverished will become even more impoverished, and more filled to overflowing with explosively righteous anger. The wealthy will cling even more greedily to the wealth that they already have, creating a social atmosphere of sheer desperation and complete confusion. To add to that, there will be series after series of "natural" disasters, some genuinely natural, some human-induced through aberrant scientific activities such as underground nuclear testing, others deliberately induced by the Grays through the technology they possess. When approximately three-quarters of the planet's population has been eliminated in this fashion, the Grays can then make an overt appearance as saviors from the skies, distributing food and medicine to the survivors. As the survivors line up to receive their quotas of food and medicine, implants will be inserted, supposedly to aid in further food distribution, actually to guarantee complete Gray control with no possibility of rebellion. From the point of view of the Grays, terrestrial humanity will have been reduced to manageable numbers and to eternal submission.

Humanity is not about to be invaded. Humanity is not in the middle of an invasion. Humanity has been invaded, and the invasion is nearly in its final stages. Great invasions do not happen with thundering smoke and nuclear weaponry. That is the mark of an immature society. Great invasions happen in secrecy.

You throw a crumb out here and there. You bribe the U.S. government with a few tidbits - a Stealth Bomber, a Star Wars sys≠tem. You encourage the government to think that the UFO researchers indeed threaten the security of this great secret they have. You tempt and tease the Soviet Union with a laser system far finer than any their own scientists could devise. And you always keep that subtle inference just on the borderline of consciousness that the elusive will-of-the-wisps termed UFOs may in fact exist, yet you persistently repress this borderline perception and make it seem so in sane that there is a social stigma attached to declaring one's conviction that the phenomena are real.

While all this confusion is going on, the Grays are gradually changing you over. The inner core of the CIA is deeply controlled by the Grays. The CIA sees the Grays as a path to greater scientific achievement, as a way of overpowering the Soviet enemy. Surprisingly enough, the obtuse collective mentality type that makes up the bulk of the CIA also makes up the bulk of the more fanatic Star People, those who babble and mush and gush so endlessly. All those who have to cleave to or be fused with some sort of group mentality leave themselves wide open. They have already been taken over. There is a large and ever-growing cult of contactees who think of the Grays as liberators, sincerely believing them to be heavenly Star Brothers who have come to help humanity.

The reason the awful little Grays mutilate animals is the stuff that they eat. They eat pulverized hormonal secretions, what you would call subtle essences. They live on the stuff of life. There is something deathlike about their species. They always bring about the death of animation, the death of individuality.

brief history of Rigel and Procyon

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The ancestors of the short Grays were once tall Blonds. The Great War took place. Behold the bitter fruit of victory. The Grays are a genetically damaged species. If terrestrial humans were to survive a nuclear winter, they might well look like that, several generations later. Before the Great War, Rigel was a vast empire, which had been the source of most galactic seeding. All Rigelians were tall Blonds. A colony had already been established on Procyon. The Great War was a civil war of Rigelians versus Rigelians, and lasted three Earth centuries.

A group of Rigelians who realized that the Great War was about to break out took off for the Procyon colony in crude, clandestinely built ships. At that time, all the sophisticated equipment was owned by the state. They were the only Rigelians to escape the cataclysmic devastation. All those who had remained on Rigel were transformed into the Grays.

After the Great War, when the Rigelians had become the Grays, it took them thousands of years to reconstruct their society. They were damaged not only genetically and in their glandular systems, but also mentally and psychologically. As soon as the Grays had reconstituted a power base, they launched an attack on the tall Blonds who had escaped to the Procyon colony.

How do I know? I am a Blond of Procyon. We were a culture that could travel through time, but also lived on a planetary sphere. And the little Grays, our insidious little friends, did to us exactly what they are doing now to you. This is what happened to our planet.

Having come in war, but having been unable to obtain any decisive victory, the Grays expressed the desire to make peace. We had not wanted to fight with the survivors of the Rigelian Great War to begin with, and gladly accepted their offer. As time went by, they said they wished to normalize relations and be our friends. We were in doubt as to whether it would be safe to trust them, and debated the issue for a long time before finally deciding that we should trust them. They were the only other surviving remnant of our original ancestral stock, although they were horribly deformed by the misfortunes they had endured.

The Grays began to visit us, first a few as ambassadors, then as specialists in various domains where their expertise could be useful to us, as participants in different programs that involved mutual collaboration, and finally as tourists. What had begun as a trickle be came a flood, as they came in ever-increasing numbers, slowly but surely infiltrating our society at all levels, penetrating even the most secret of our elite power groups. The one secret that remained beyond their grasp, because the part of their intelligence that was capable of understanding its subtle complexities had atrophied during the nuclear winter that had caused the mutation of their species, was the Blonds ability to transcend and travel through time.

How then did we fail to foresee our own future, and the fatal mistake we were making when we first let them in? Just as on your planet they began by unobtrusively gaining control over key members of the CIA and KGB through techniques unknown to them, such as telepathic hypnosis that manipulates the reptilian levels of the brain, so on Procyon through the same techniques, whose existence we were not aware of either, from the start they established a kind of telepathic hypnotic control over our leaders. Over our leaders and over almost all of us, because it was as if we were under a spell that was leading us to our doom, as if we were being programmed by a type of ritual black magic that we did not realize existed.

Just as a few of the original tall Blonds clandestinely left Rigel when the Great War was about to break out, so did a few of the original tall Blonds clandestinely leave Procyon and escape into the corridors of time just before the Grays completed the slow under mining that culminated in their sudden takeover of Procyon. Those who stayed behind came under the total domination of the Grays.

The Blonds you see on the same ships as the Grays, working with them, are hybrids, or they are clones. One way to distinguish the clones is that they look alike. The real Blonds have distinct facial feature differences and do not look alike.

The clones have thick necks and coarsely muscular bodies. They do not have the ability to teleport or to travel interdimensionally. They can be contacted by telepathy, but are unable to send. They can be given orders telepathically. They are zombie-like flesh robots. You can tell that they are of low intelligence by looking into their eyes.

The real Blonds are also muscular, but have slender necks and agile bodies. Their eyes are alert and of high intelligence. Physically they are almost identical to humans, the main difference being that by human standards their blood circulatory system is under-developed, while their lymphatic system is over-developed. This gives them stronger immune systems than terrestrial humans.

The hybrids are in an intermediate state between the real Blonds and the clones.

After what has happened to Procyon, no true Blond would collaborate voluntarily with the Grays. The Grays have taken some prisoners of war, who have no choice in the matter, and are forced to work with them in order to survive, with the hope of escaping. There are also a few Blonds who have become degenerate renegades, space pirates and mercenaries who sell their services to the highest bidder. But many of us remain free and continue the fight to the finish with the life-form that has become our hereditary enemy. We choose to remain in exile in the corridors of time, where they can not reach us, rather than to live under the domination of the insidious Grays. It is dangerous for us to venture forth from the corridors of time, but occasionally we do so for a hit-and-run strike, similar in nature to a cosmic version of terrestrial guerrilla warfare. We must periodically enter a substantial physical form for a period of repose, or to breed progeny, in order to continue to survive, but otherwise we constantly travel the vast corridors of time. That is why we may appear to fade in and out like holographic images to human perception. What I have come here to communicate, if only to one or two people or a small group, is that what is now in the process of happening to your culture also happened to ours. It is the same fate our own culture suffered. And the Blonds you see with the Grays are either hybrids, clones, or prisoners of war, because no true Blond who got out untouched, unscathed, uncrossed with those Grays would ever be with them. He or she would prefer to be in a state of non-existence.

Besides the Blonds and the Grays, ships from many other space cultures are watching planet Earth at this time with extreme interest. Scientists from other space cultures are studying what is going on here during this decisive period of your history. If your elected representatives had not so stupidly made a deal with the only aliens willing to provide them with weapons systems - with the short sighted goal of overpowering the Russians - the Grays would not have achieved their present dominance, and you would now be ex changing ambassadors with a wide variety of space cultures. What I want to get across to you is that the ultimate evil, which underlies all the negativity in the cosmos, finds expression in that masked form of psychological complacency that leads an individual to adhere to a group philosophy rather than to think things through for oneself. Those who feel safe and comfortable in no matter what belief system merely because many others adhere to it - who get together and form an arrogant self-righteous group convinced it has a monopoly on the truth, and who are ready to persecute, kill or stifle anyone who challenges that group's philosophy - have formed an alliance with the ultimate evil, whether they know it or not. It is the self-righteousness and implacability of certain elite power groups like the CIA and the KGB, certain organized reli≠gions, and certain so-called lunatic fringe groups such as some of the more fanatical Star People, which are so objectionable. It is as if the self-righteous elite power groups and the self-righteous lunatic fringe groups were mirror opposites of each other, and thus equivalent to each other. The elite groups see the fringe groups as their enemies, and vice versa, but they each think of themselves as a "chosen" special group. As soon as you become involved in a belief system that you are a "chosen" special group, who are as lords over the common folk because of your secret knowledge, you are on your way to a fall. That type of attitude plants the seed of destruction in any society or culture, leaving it vulnerable to overthrow by those oppressed within its boundaries, as well as by outside forces. All cultures who have elite groups at odds with each other, and with the population at large, sooner or later collapse from either internal or external pressures.

A healthy organism does not isolate portions of itself that cease to interchange freely with other portions of its body. This type of condition is a prelude to cancer, whether it occurs in an individual or in a society. The only chance of retaining your freedom is for the awareness of this principle to penetrate the consciousness of humanity. It is a pearl of wisdom treasured by those who have attained the ability to travel through time and other life cycles.

I have seen civilizations rise and fall and begin again, only to die again, over and over and over. It isn't only a problem of this planet. It's a problem that must be faced by all civilizations in the course of their development, no matter where they are in the cos mos. Everyone wants that slightly larger piece of the pie than their neighbor for themselves, and eventually this tendency culminates in choking them. Sooner or later this will be the undoing of the Grays as well, thereby enabling us to return in triumph from our exile in the corridors of time. The Grays do not see and are incapable of understanding their own fundamental error: that the very weakness they seize upon in humanity is their own inherent weakness, the blind spot that inevitably seals their doom.

Minerals evolve into plants, plants into animals, animals into humans, and humans into angelic energy-forms. But to try to force a rock, when it is in the state of being a rock, to perform like a plant is utterly futile. To try and change the arrogant mentality of a self-righteous government official or of a fanatical Star Person is as futile as trying to make a rock perform like a plant, unless the individual has matured to the point of being ripe for major change.

That is what a traveler through time learns: nothing in the cos mos can ever be forced. Everything happens and unfolds as it should, even when you are confronted with the idiocy that has brought about the potential end of your species as you know it. It is a challenge to be faced, just as Paul Revere and Thomas Paine and John Paul Jones faced the challenges of their time. May it bring out the best in you!

Through facing it wisely, without falling into the traps set by your oppressors, may you learn to fulfill your potential, which in≠cludes the ability to travel through time! For you to fight the Grays on a military level is an impossibility. Even an alliance between the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. could not do it. The Grays' technology is too far in advance of yours. It would be like bows and arrows versus machine guns, and this time around, you would be the ones with the bows and arrows. They can use electro-magnetics to axis-switch this planet or take it out of orbit. Because of their technological advantage, active resistance would be suicidal and foolhardy rather than courageous. If you took hostages, so would they. They can get to you, but you can't get to where they come from. Not even their moon base is vulnerable to you. It is necessary to fight in another manner, through passive resistance.

At this stage, one thing you can do is to provide the public with as much information as possible. This will make it more difficult for the collaborators and Grays in disguise within the government to continue to work against humanity in favor of the Grays. Tell the public how to put their minds into a state that the Grays cannot penetrate, by focusing the mind on powerful imagery, different for each individual. The only way to victory is through the strength of your consciousness. When genetic or other manipulations are being performed on the abductees, the Grays expect them to cringe in fear; then the Grays can derive a second-hand high from the intensity of the emotions expressed. If instead of cringing in fear, an abductee can put his or her mind elsewhere, focusing attention on dynamic protective imagery of a religious or mystical nature, it decreases the gratification that the Grays are getting from their second-hand high, and it confuses them. Center the consciousness on something so different from what they expect that it puzzles them. No matter what the physical situation may be, it is essential to send this S.O.S. telepathic message to the higher powers protective of humanity without becoming entangled in negative emotions such as fear, rage or hatred. Negative emotions not only diminish the effectiveness of one's S.O.S. message to the higher powers in the universe, they are the type of response that the Grays are used to evoking and are expert at manipulating. If you combat the Grays with hatred in your heart, you become like them and further entangled with them, instead of free from them. A difficulty with the view point of many of the adherents of organized religions is that they tend to perceive the Grays as demons, and therefore to hate them. Although to some extent this analogy is valid, hatred is a form of attachment, a negative emotion the Grays know will bind you to them. A more correct perception is that the Grays are a species that is terminally ill, having exhausted their DNA, and are therefore in a state of desperation. That is why they are so ruthless in their genetic and other experimentation. Their physical bodies are degenerating from generation to generation. The Grays do not have progeria, but their DNA is running out and no longer replicates properly, so they are unable to replenish themselves. It is not progeria, but it is similar to progeria, almost like a progeria of the entire species.

It should be remembered that aggressive behavior or attempts at physical resistance during an abduction may result in death. The Grays have no more compunction about taking human life than humans have about taking reptilian life. While one is in their power, one has no more control over what happens physically than does the victim of a human kidnapper or rapist. Their "chosen ones" are at tempting to sugar-coat the bitter pill and get you all to stand in line to be processed without any effective resistance, like cattle into hamburger, depicting abduction by the Grays as a glorious experience that everyone should have. These "chosen ones" are the "bellwethers" that Charles Fort referred to.

There are other E.T. groups you would be happy to work with and travel in the vehicles of, but the track record that the Grays have left behind them leaves no room for doubt as to their malignancy. The only reason the Grays have such a degree of dominance over you is because your elected officials stupidly made clandestine agreements with them, binding you to them in an exclusive alliance that is respected by other space races, allowing them to install them selves in underground bases impregnable to your weaponry, a situation from which you must now extricate yourselves.

In antiquity this planet was divided into sectors among four different groups: Blonds, Grays, large lizard-like beings from the Capella system, and beings from the Arcturus system. These groups still consider themselves to be the owners of this planet. They do not recognize the human claim to ownership. However, some of us do recognize human rights, as well as the lights of other life-forms. An alliance now exists between the tall Blonds and the large lizard like beings from the Capella system to drive out the Grays. The beings from the Arcturus system are neutral observers and are not participating in the conflict. The Blonds and Capellans have deep moral repugnance for the current activities of the Grays on this planet and are willing to help humanity, if humanity will take effective steps to stop its pollution of the planetary environment. The Grays have become a criminal species and will be treated as such. However, any species that pollutes its own environment to the point of endangering the survival of its planetary biosphere is also guilty of a cosmic crime.

The space shuttle "Challenger" was destroyed because one of its scheduled operations was an experimental attempt to dispose of nu clear waste by projecting it into outer space. Vehicles of other cultures could collide with canisters of nuclear waste projected into outer space. Canisters could also be broken open by meteor showers and contaminate whole zones of the universe. It was not an intelligent idea to try and shoot a canister out from the space shuttle. It is not enough to launch canisters beyond the periphery of your solar system. There must be a preplanned crash on a specific target. The only safe way is to select a system that is about to super-nova, and then send an unmanned spaceship loaded with nuclear waste on a collision course directly into that solar system's central sun. The second-best solution would be to send a ship on a collision course into the sun of a solar system where conditions are incompatible with the existence of life-forms. To send it into your own sun could cause a solar flare that would reduce all forms of life on Earth to dust and ashes. The nuclear waste produced on Earth must be kept on Earth until a safe way to project it to a suitable target area is found. Jupiter is the closest target to Earth that is acceptable for this purpose.

Enochian is the lingua franca of the space races, much as Swahili was the lingua franca of the many African languages: Enochian is the correct time-tested traditional way for Earthlings to communicate with extra-terrestrials. In the Golden Dawn Enochian system, the Great King of Air is the appropriate intermediary to be called upon as a benign go-between in negotiations between Earthlings and extra-terrestrials. Enochian was the ancestral root-language of the original Blonds on Rigel before the Great War.

Although active resistance to the Grays would not be advisable at the present time, because of their technological advantage, this does not mean that you should surrender. It means that you should focus your attention on the different techniques of passive resistance that may be applicable to the situation, making the fullest possible use of your individuality, which so puzzles and confuses their collective hive mentality. As collective thought patterns enhance the ability of the Grays to manipulate you, original thinkers acting on their own are more likely to have success than mass movements led by leaders who do everyone else's thinking for them.

In preventing the take-over of your planet as a colony ruled by Gray overlords, you should go back through your own history and learn what you can from the techniques of passive resistance used to bring about the independence of India, used by the American Indi ans and Blacks during their oppression in the United States, by the Blacks in South Africa at the present time, by the French Resistance during the Nazi occupation, and anywhere else in your historical records where there are lessons of this nature to be learned. The point of passive resistance is to endure, to survive until the moment when it becomes possible to switch over to active resistance because outside help has come - being careful to avoid the mistake of the citizens of Budapest, who rose up believing propaganda assurances that the United States would support their uprising, only to be crushed by Soviet tanks when no such help was forthcoming. Prematurely triggered active resistance would be a disaster that would enable the Grays to perpetuate their colonization of this planet, exactly the type of situation they would try to bring about. Beware of zealots with an obsessive hatred of the Grays, who may have been subconsciously programmed by the Grays to act as agent provocateurs. If you get all those sincerely devoted to resistance together into one place, it is much easier to wipe them out. If the resistance remains disseminated among the population at large, it is more difficult to round them up. Don't add to the superiority of the Gray position by playing into their hands. And remember that although their technology is far in advance of yours, you do vastly out-number them and can over-extend them. They are already over-extended elsewhere and unable to commit further forces to this area of the universe, so those already here must operate without reinforcements coming to them.

You are so far outstripped in terms of physical weaponry that you must find a source of strength that transcends the physical - such as techniques of centering consciousness on powerfully motivating imagery, which would be different from one individual to another. For the religiously oriented it might be a key event in the life of Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, Moses, or whoever the appropriate figure would be in one's belief system. For those who are not religiously oriented, it would be whatever figure that person sincerely admires as representing what is best in humanity, whether it be an artist or inventor or other type of benevolent leader of society. If the admiration is not wholeheartedly sincere, it will not be sufficient to be of much use as protection, nor can the attention be maintained for long. The degree of protection given by such imagery depends largely on the intensity and endurance of the single-pointed attention. So it is best to choose whatever figure you genuinely feel spontaneous admiration for, whatever image makes your heart sing and makes you feel at one with the infinite. That will always work and is all we can do for now.

An example of the type of attitude that the Grays find most con fusing is the classic Buddhist discipline of meditating on a bloated corpse until one roars with laughter upon realizing what a complete cosmic joke existence is. The most likely way to extricate oneself and others from a potentially disastrous situation is to keep the consciousness centered and the heart still, realizing the situation to be the illusion that it is. Do not act out of fear, thereby ensuring the victory of the opponent. If one allows oneself to be intimidated, the inevitable result is death. In no matter what type of situation, retain your sense of humor and perspective. Learn to apply the T'ai Ch'i disciplines in non-physical fashion. Center yourself, then act from that center.

Since the Grays have mastered much deeper techniques of hypnosis than humans have, their takeover of human consciousness can only be prevented by strong imagery of a religious or mystical nature. Your contemporary hypnosis works within the mammalian portions of your brain, which in terms of evolutionary development are the more recently acquired portions. Being partially reptilian themselves, the Grays know how to manipulate the reptilian level of your brain, which is the most basic and ancient level. The only way to counteract such manipulation is by activating the most high of the highest levels of consciousness accessible to you at your present stage of development. If one is unable to maintain an image evoking that highest level of consciousness firmly in one's thoughts, their hypnosis can bypass the higher levels of your evolutionary development and take control of the deep reptilian level. In this fashion they can overpower an individual's true will and obliterate the integrity of the soul. That is how they took over key officials of the CIA, KGB, and other powerful elite groups within your social structure. They only need to control the elite at the tip of the top of the social pyramid, the top hundredth of one percent of the population, in order to control the entire population. A person enslaved in this fashion can be made to do things that your type of hypnosis could not make them do, such as murdering their closest friends or family members. Having gained control over the reptilian level of consciousness, they temporarily paralyze all portions of the mammalian brain higher than the ape level, then activate the ape level's more violent responses, such as territorialism, greed, lust, or rage. Humans can be made to respond like apes, unless they are able to resist the attempt to take them over by activating the level of consciousness that corresponds to the crown chakra. Any attempt to fight back at the ape level ensures the success of the Grays. The ape-level belligerence, territorialism, and posturing for purposes of prestige and dominance, which are unfortunately so characteristic of the U.S.-U.S.S.R. relationship on both sides, deliver the population of this planet into the power of the Grays.

After having destroyed approximately three-quarters of the present population through the introduction of viral diseases and the inducement of assorted catastrophes, the Grays would not even need to make an overt appearance as saviors from the skies. They could unobtrusively replace humans with hybrids. It could be done so gradually that no one would realize what was happening. The transition from humans to hybrids could be so subtle and seamless mat the changeover would never be noticed. It would not even be mentioned in the history books, as scientists would assume that the physical and mental changes were the result of naturally occurring evolution. Human history would become hybrid history without anyone understanding what had actually occurred. The governments might even continue to deny the existence of UFOs.

All that would be needed would be to continue the process mat is already in operation. Some researchers are aware of the fact mat the hybrids that turn out to resemble the Grays are removed from their mothers and taken elsewhere, but very few are aware that the hybrids which turn out to resemble humans are left to grow up in human society. Before taking hybrids back to their home base to give a much-needed genetic boost to their own ancestral stock, they would want to carry out intensive long-range studies. Certain questions would need to be answered, such as: Are the hybrids psychologically stable? Disease resistant? Productive? Aggressive? They would want to observe die interplay between humans and hybrids, in order to make sure that the hybrids had the qualities necessary to become leaders in human society. In general, Gray/human hybrids would require less food and sleep than terrestrial humans. They would tend to be more intelligent and slender, but emotionally cold. This does not mean that any human with these characteristics is necessarily a hybrid. As many as 3% of the present population may already be hybrids. All the Grays would have to do would be to continue doing exactly what they are doing, to keep boosting that percentage bit by bit, with an occasional sudden jump in the wake of seemingly natural catastrophes, until the original human population has been 100% replaced by hybrids.

Why do I know so well how such an operation is carried out? The process is quite similar to that by which the Blonds replaced Neanderthal man with Cro-Magnon man. However, the intelligence of terrestrial humanity has now evolved to the point where it has a choice in the matter. By understanding the long-term hive-mind strategy of the Grays, individual humans who attain multi-dimensional awareness can circumvent and short-circuit it. If enough individual humans do this, and refrain from quarreling over whether the state of multi-dimensional awareness is to be called Christ-consciousness or any of the other names it has in the different traditions, uniting together from all traditions to liberate the planet, the Grays will be obliged to seek elsewhere in the cosmos for a slave species they can genetically manipulate.

At some point help may come from outside, from my own and/or some of the other space races. There may also be revolt within the ranks of the Grays, based on widespread discontent with their rigid insectile hierarchical caste system. In the process of infiltrating a species, the Grays cannot avoid being influenced by that species, and some of them who had never thought of questioning authority are beginning to do so, because of the influence of human contact. The Grays are having problems not only within their own ranks, but also on other planets they have colonized. As a species they are afflicted with severe, perhaps terminal, health problems. They have substantial captive populations of Blond, human and other prisoners of war, eager to join a revolt at the slightest opportunity.

There is no reason that one should not send out telepathic appeals for help, in the form of prayer or meditation, or in whatever way is appropriate to the individual, to the higher forces in the cos mos. They do exist, and are sensitive to such signals. There are extra-terrestrial and other-dimensional cultures capable of harnessing the innate power of entire galaxies, who could be of immeasurable help in liberating your planet from domination by the Grays, if you could persuade them to intervene. However, they are unlikely to respond until humanity cleans up its own act and stops polluting the planetary environment. One can also send out telepathic signals of encouragement to those among the Grays who have begun to question authority and acquire a taste for human freedom, but it would be suicidal to attempt to fight the Grays directly with the weapons now at your disposal.

One must be rational in attempting to fight back, and understand the proper way to proceed. Your own consciousness is the most potent weapon that is available to you at the present time. The most effective way to fight the Grays is to change the level of your consciousness from linear thinking to multi-dimensional awareness. Your secret weapon, your ace in the hole, is that you are not hive-mind collective thinkers, though many of you do fall into that cate gory by conforming to conventional group-patterns and are therefore easily controlled by the Grays. Collective thought-patterns among humans empower the Grays. It is your individuality that is your best weapon, because it is the one weapon you have that the Grays do not. The major weakness of the Grays, their area of vulnerability, their Achilles heel, is their inability to think as individuals. They are an extremely telepathic high-tech society, but as individuals they are not creative thinkers. They take orders well, but they do not conceptualize well. They have the technology to throw your planet out of orbit, but there is one key ability that you have and they do not have: the ability to hold in mind imagery that inspires an individual to realize his or her direct personal connection to the source of all that is, which is the ineffable Godhead, no matter what name you may call it. That is your key to victory.

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

qnak if nothing else you should get full marks for perseverance and persistence

Truly, God does not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves.
(Quran 13:11)

You are free; you are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place of worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed - that has nothing to do with the business of the State - Mohammad Ali Jinnah

qnak if nothing else you should get full marks for perseverance and persistence

To be fair, I never paid much attention to this posting initially but I can say I am seriously reading it now as and when time permits. I have actually bookmarked Gnak's posting on my browser so I can come to it directly! I don't believe every claim by every individual here but there are some worthy of note - especially the ones made by physicist Bob Lazar and the so-called Victor. Also Alex Collier did not sound like an outright loony. If he was deceiving he was very good. You must note Bob Lazar is the president of his own company called United Nuclear in New Mexico. If he says he saw advanced reverse-engineering of alien technology in Groom Lake decades ago...hmm...makes one wonder. Also the whole 2012/Nibiru/Consciousness Awareness movement is becoming more pronounced these days. However, I did see in a separate posting in the Social Issues forum where Gnak claims China belongs to the Andromeda alliance and the US to the Draconian collective. I would stay away from such claims. I think if we were to assume that ETs are among us, they would be equally distributed across all nations, and each would have its share of good and bad, so to speak.

I don't believe every claim by every individual here but there are some worthy of note - especially the ones made by physicist Bob Lazar and the so-called Victor. Also Alex Collier did not sound like an outright loony.

if u found those vids informative then i suggest u watch william cooper's 1989 lecture, link available here or pls refer to post #7 of this thread

QUOTE(DesiBugger @ Oct 22 2007, 04:42 AM)

I did see in a separate posting in the Social Issues forum where Gnak claims China belongs to the Andromeda alliance and the US to the Draconian collective.

i think u misunderstood that post i never claimed china belonged to the andromeda alliance. i was simply pointing the difference between china's non interventionist foreign policy as opposed to america's interventionist foreign policy in comparison to the two major conflicting ET factions in this universe.

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

if u found those vids informative then i suggest u watch william cooper's 1989 lecture, link available here or pls refer to post #7 of this thread

I will indeed. It is going to take some time though because there is lots of them.

QUOTE(gnak @ Oct 21 2007, 11:37 PM)

i think u misunderstood that post i never claimed china belonged to the andromeda alliance. i was simply pointing the difference between china's non interventionist foreign policy as opposed to america's interventionist foreign policy in comparison to the two major conflicting ET factions in this universe.

Ok. Yeah I did misunderstand you but thanks for clarifying.

But one thing that is on my mind, and I am sure you have also thought about, is why all these UFO activities and documentation is in Western countries. To be honest, this is one of the reasons I have been skeptical about ET stories in many cases. Is it that Westerners have more time for this, or they are more observant, or as I used to joke, is it that even extra-terrestrials fear to land in third-world countries - with all the diseases, bureaucracy...and the ETs may even mugged or even get their spaceship or its parts stolen, LOL? Remember, when it comes to astronomy and astrology, Eastern countries from Mesopotamia to China were very observant. But why don't we have enough UFO tales or contactee claims from these places? Or is it that I have not come across them? If you have any ideas on this subject please share them.

But one thing that is on my mind, and I am sure you have also thought about, is why all these UFO activities and documentation is in Western countries. To be honest, this is one of the reasons I have been skeptical about ET stories in many cases. Is it that Westerners have more time for this, or they are more observant, or as I used to joke, is it that even extra-terrestrials fear to land in third-world countries - with all the diseases, bureaucracy...and the ETs may even mugged or even get their spaceship or its parts stolen, LOL? Remember, when it comes to astronomy and astrology, Eastern countries from Mesopotamia to China were very observant. But why don't we have enough UFO tales or contactee claims from these places? Or is it that I have not come across them? If you have any ideas on this subject please share them.

good question...to begin theres not many contactees, alot of the ppl who claim to be contactee's are liers and doing it for money e.g. the raelian ufo cult. another thing is there's not much awareness of this subject in asia or elsewhere besides western cultures. also ridicule and persecution would be greater in these areas thus ppl who are contacted would be scared to go public e.g. a muslim country. almost all of the video lectures posted in this thread are from defectors who have inside knowledge and because usa and certain european countries are in direct physical contact with ets you would expect that defectors would be of western origin. and finally media, ppl living in poorer places would find it hard to get media to get their message across. these r just my ideas

or as I used to joke, is it that even extra-terrestrials fear to land in third-world countries - with all the diseases, bureaucracy...and the ETs may even mugged or even get their spaceship or its parts stolen, LOL?

if your talking about ufo sightings they appear all over the world not just usa

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

content taken from LFA (Letters from Andromeda) by Jon Robinson and Alex Collier

The Race from Alpha Draconis

The Draconis race is probably the most misunderstood. I have witnessed a deep respect for this race which is generated out of admiration and fear. The Draconans are the oldest reptilian race in our Universe. Their forefathers, somewhere in our most ancient past came to our Universe from another separate Universe and/or reality. When this actually occurred no one really knows. The 11 (Council of Eleven) have said that the Draconans themselves aren't clear how or when they themselves got here, but what is interesting is that they declare and teach to the masses that they were in this Universe first, before humans beings, and that they are the true heirs to this Universe and, as such are all royalty. Most, if not all, human races don't recognize this claim as truth but, none the less, they don't debate the issue with them either. Alpha Draconans have colonized many star systems and have created many races by genetically altering the life forms that they encountered.

The most densely populated area of sub-races of Draconans is the constellation of Orion, Rigel, and the star system known as Capella. Here lies a very dangerous part of the Universe for human beings. The mind set or consciousness of the majority of the races in this region is service to self and as such they are always subverting, invading and manipulating less advanced races using their technology for control and domination. This is a very old and ancient war with the peace that does exist always being tested by these beings that believe that fear rules and love is weak, that the less fortunate are meant to be slaves. This belief system is promoted at birth in the reptilian races, wherein the mother, after giving birth, will abandon the offspring to fend for themselves. If they survive they are cared for by a warrior class that uses these children for games of combat and amusement.". So, you can see that the reptilians are forever stuck in survival mode. This means they have no boundaries in what they will do to other beings.

Alpha Draconans are very suspicious of all life forms including their own, but not of course to the extent that they would be of humans. They are taught that Draconan history of the Great Galactic War. The version or opinion that the humans were at fault for the invasion of the Universe and how we selfishly wanted the Draconan race to starve and struggle for the basic materials for their society to exist. Therefore they are brainwashed at a young age just like we humans have done to our younger generations by all human races in the galaxy.

The Race of Greys Called the DOW

The Dow are a small group of Greys that are responsible for many abduction/detentions. They have very little emotional development, but do possess very strong telepathic powers. These powers are often used to deceive and conceal their true motives and objectives. Their race is struggling to assure their own self-preservation but, as of yet, they have not met with any true success. Unable to attach a soul to their own hybrid bodies, they must strip off energy layers of abducteeís soul bodies. This energy is then "fed" to infant hybrids in attempts to sustain their life. This same technology is also used to disembody, capture, and contain a soul for future use. They are clearly regressive in nature.

The Dow have their heritage in the system of Zeta Reticuli, with their original place of origin being the star called M-2, in Zeta Reticuli II. Their home sun had burned out and their planet destroyed many thousands of years ago. The exact date hasnít been give yet. They were Reticulans originally, loving healers with tremendous skills in technology and analytical powers. Their cousins, the Zetaís, who are still there are very much the healers in the Universe, especially on a third and forth density level. This group is said to be very gentle. However, this is no longer the case for the Dow.

As a small group, the Dow ventured out on their own and were captured by the Orion Group. Genetically altered many times through many generations, the Dow became the slaves and pirates in service to the reptilian species, specifically the Orions and the Draconans. The Dow were deliberately altered genetically so that they couldnít reproduce, ensuring they wouldnít rise up in force against their captors. This forces them to stay very much in the survival mode, making them much easier to control. They would like to be free, but instead have become wanderers. They are no longer Reticulans, nor honored in their home systems, because of their abuse of power (service to self) and the fact that they are now on the same side as their owners. They, like their owners, have left a wake of destruction and slavery in their path.

Be very clear about this! The Dow are out for their own survival and will do anything to us, without compassion or understanding of what their actions will or have done to us. I have been told to have understanding of their situation and possibly some inner compassion for their plight, but to fight and stay very clear of them as they are very dangerous to the human Terran race on Earth.

The Dow assignment is to go out in groups as biological and genetic engineers to find underdeveloped worlds and civilizations and then conquer them without force. The Earth fell victim to these plans. The Dow broke Cosmic Law as decreed by the Andromedan Council by interfering with a developing world. The only group originally given permission to be here was Pleaidian. Since then, several other groups have also been granted permission. This type of interference is typical of the Orion Group. Here is how the plan was explained to me.

The Dow first make contact with a world that is developing, to what degree I am uncertain. They study all of the worldís religions, countries, governments, etc. then decide which is the strongest and make contact with that nation. Incredible technology is dangled in the face of this nation or nations in order to get treaties signed giving permission for the Dow to be here and study the life forms, etc. Once this is accomplished, they then slowly take control of the governments that rule the populace and then they become our leaders. Few in the populace really get to know that it has happened.

Clones or genetic doubles are created and programmed to do what the Dow want and then they play upon the greed of the beings on this planet. Frequently, the elite and/or governments sell out their own races to be, or remain, in favor of their rulers. Once in control, having done so in a most subversive way, the Dow then invite their rulers, the Reptilians and the Orion Group, to the planet to continue the conquest. Here is where it gets difficult for the Andromedan Council. The Dow are the only group that really violated the Law by coming down in the first place. The Orion Group and the Reptilians are asked as guests of the ruling race to come to the planet and colonize. The problem becomes how to get the Orion Group to leave of its own volition. They technically have not been the ones to violate the Law of Non-intervention. The Council cannot hold the Orion Group responsible for the actions of the Dow. Does any of this sound familiar to you? The Council of Eleven have said that this has happened to many other worlds in our Universe and it has also happened to us here on Earth, or Terra, as the Andromedans call us.

The Dow presence here in the United States is strong. While there are less than two-thousand ensouled Dow, there are thousands of clones. The entire group is comprised of a " hive" consciousness by which they are all in contact with each other via a central point where instructions and information is transferred. Presently there are thousands of Dow on both the Earth and our Moon. In 1953, 1955 and 1957 large mother ships took up positions along the equator. Each ship contained thousands of Dow. Several ships went into the oceans. The largest is still said to be very deep in the Pacific, west of Easter Island. The other two have left orbit and, Iím told, have gone to Phobos and to Mars where they are to meet the Reptilians from Draconis and Rigel. The Orion Group however, is still here and will be addressed in a future article.

The Dow have also come here with their own agenda, a survival mission to find a home and a way to save their own race from extinction by interbreeding with us - without our consent or real knowledge. They have been crossing our genetics, both DNA and RNA, and attaching some of their genetic material to it, along with other chemical components, to alter us to fit their life forms. They are made up of a combination of botanical genetics and reptilian DNA. The reason for the addition of our genetics is to stop their supposed evolutionary decline on a physical level.

Their original agreement was to assist humankind by sharing technology and information. The government, in turn, gave its promise that the Dow could study our civilization, in complete secrecy in underground bases (Dow avoid bright light) built by the government, all without public knowledge. Almost immediately the Dow broke the agreement and used their technological strengths to take control of events here on Earth. The government did not want to tell the people in their respective nations for fear of retaliation from the masses and the aliens. Out of desperation, the secret governments started to experiment with time travel i.e.- the Montauk Projects, to send people into the future to find and acquire future technology to bring back here to our present that we could use against our conquerors now in the present. This, the Council of Eleven have said, is the reason our secret government went to any length to accomplish the goal.

The Dow have created this same type of scenario on 26 other worlds in our Universes present time. They have enslaved these planets for their rulers and have broken the will and the spirit of many. We ourselves could suffer a similar fate if we are not careful about our own belief systems.

Pleaidians

The human species called the Pleaidians evolved from Lyra. The Pleaidians are our far distant first cousins and ancestral forefathers of some of our races. It has been said that the Pleaidians as we know them were Lyrans who migrated from Lyra in large space stations or arks exploring young star systems seeking the potential for stable longevity.

These Lyrans would send down scout teams consisting of scientists, engineers and agricultural specialists to explore the surface of possible habitable planets and then return data and information to the motherships. Each planet was explored and based upon its unique nature, would be developed for colonies that were then sent down for settlement. Some these first Lyrans colonized our Earth for a time, while a larger group of Lyrans eventually found the seven sisters and other star systems during the Orion Wars. It should be noted that through the development of effective weapons of war, this helped sustain them through the Orion Wars and beyond.

So as you can see the Pleaidians are very interested in our world and our races here. They have been visiting Earth for at least 79,743 years, establishing and maintaining many large settlements. They have come and gone throughout our planets history. We are very similar to them in many ways, however, they are emotionally and spiritually more evolved than us at this time. They too have gone through their growing pains, as we are experiencing right now. They have and continue to make attempts to share with us the benefits of their experience so we ourselves don't have to experience the same kinds of setbacks and possible destructions. At present, not enough of us are listening.

The Pleaides is an open star cluster consisting of 254 stars and many times that in planetary bodies. Many of the stars are very young. The Pleaides is located in the constellation of Taurus. The Pleaidian and Earth alphabets are both very similar. This was noted about 11,157 years ago. The script form was developed here on Earth and carried back to the seven sisters. The original script form is the parent of most of our present day alphabets. All of Earths languages are derived from a ancient Pre-Sumerian language called Tamil which was spoken in Lyra and latter in the Pleaides.

Three of the Pleaidian star systems have human life as we know it, with the most advance system being Daneb of Taygeta. Another system is Taro which circles Alcyone. Most of the Pleaidians look like us in size and stature, build, color of hair, etc. They are also very affluent and articulate when speaking any of our languages, or discussing our sciences, history, and so fourth. We have inherited our aggressiveness towards each other from them. Their life spans far exceed our own by at least 10 times our norm.

Their technology has made it possible for them to travel anywhere in our Universe at speeds faster than the speed of light. They are capable of using our oceans for undersea operations. They are very concerned about our current misuse of our sciences along with our complete loss of our spiritual center and harmony with our sciences. They have no use for money, politics or religions, clearly stating that the later two-politics and religions are really the same. The Pleaidians are worried that, as other benevolent races visit, we will destroy our planet and ourselves and expose their failure to help create a conscious shift.

The Pleaidians like other groups, have left descendants on the Earth in the past. They have said they are willing to help us but not to the point of changing our own evolution and then therefore becoming responsible for us as a race. They say, that we create our own future as we go and so we need to take responsibility in correcting our own mistakes ourselves or suffer because of them.

Although the Pleiadians appear very healthy by our standards, they are affected by our atmosphere. Not enough that they have to use environmental suits but they do have sinus problems from prolonged exposure in our air. Their home planet atmosphere is very similar to ours but we have more pollutants in our air. They say that after prolonged living in the purer conditions of the spacecraft they are even affected, to a much lesser degree, by their home planet's atmosphere.

Their hands are very similar to ours but finer and more flexibly articulated. They have fine skin on their hands. All Pleiadians have small gardens and work them with their own hands. It is a part of maintaining contact with their Creation.

They each work two hours per day in their factories - mostly overseeing automated machines and robots. They are all educated in a great many sciences. The Pleiadians go to school until they are in their 70s. In 10 years of school they reach an educational level equivalent to a 25 year old college graduate here. Everyone must be thoroughly familiar with 12 to 20 professions.

They do not marry until they are at least 70 years old. They mature in body in 12 to 15 years. They do not marry until they have completed their chosen education. The median age for those who do marry is about 110 years. Both parties must pass strict mental and physical examinations before they are permitted to marry. They are not required to marry and many do not.

In birth they rely on natural partrition with no anesthetic. They find that their brain chemistry is changed by anesthesia. The force of will of the baby is affected and will be reduced to some degree. Life on Erra is peaceful and harmonious. Everyone strives for his very best for the good of all. If we were to go to the Pleiadian's home planet, Erra, we would not see much because the life and civilization and all its works exist in a slightly different dimension and time frame. Their time is altered slightly which also affects their vibrational state of being. They must adjust this time and vibration a little in order to contact us and we would have to do the same to perceive their native existence.

The Pleiadians say that every human has a direct responsibility to help every other one to grow in consciousness. Creation requires every unit of life, within itself, to constantly grow forward. Each unit has this responsibility as well to every other unit. The unexpected thing, which after all really should not be unexpected, is to find reason and logic in the interrelationship of all these odd events.

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

content taken from LFA (Letters from Andromeda) by Jon Robinson and Alex CollierThe Grey Agenda

The Greys made contact with a world governmental body for the first time in 1933 in Germany. However, they were turned away by the German government because it had already committed itself to involvement with the Giza intelligence. A renegade group of human extra terrestrials that were headquartered under the Giza plateau in Egypt. They were predominantly Pleadians. They were on their own, doing their own thing. Ashtar, Commigal, and even Jehovah were a part of the group, for some time. They came down here and played God with us. People worshipped them because they had technology which they used it as their power, big time.

During the 1930ís, the Germans were building rockets and starting a space program due to their contacts with the extraterrestrials of the Giza intelligence. The technology developed however, was used to create weapons because the German governmental body involved were concerned that there was going to be an alien invasion. The Giza intelligence had told them that the Greys were here to invade, but this actually did not occur. Plans for weapons such as sound devices, lasers, neutron bombs, particle beam weapons, etc. were designed. Although many of these weapons were not created until much later in history, a lot of other technology was shared with the Germans, by the Giza Intelligence, like how to do: anti-gravity, free energy, etc.

The United States was the first to open its doors to the alien race known as the Greys. I have been told of only one contact in 1934, where the Greys made their presence known to the U.S. government, in the state of Washington. I donít know the particular details but somehow the government knew that the Greys were there. It wasnít until 1947, that actual contact occurred with the aliens and United States officials.

The first face to face contact was due to the shooting down of an alien craft, namely the Roswell incident. This pressed the Greys into a contact earlier than they had actually anticipated doing themselves. After the crash in Roswell, the United States, the Soviet Union, and the British, at the very highest levels, became blood brothers. By the way, none of these governments knew what Germany was really up to. The Germans were very, very secretive about their contact with the Giza Intelligence.

The Roswell incident created more of an urgency to develop a true space program to defend the earth. The United States and the Soviet governments thought that this alien presence could be a threat, because these aliens were so technologically more advanced. But the Greys in their own fashion, really back doored these governments through deceit. The true space program, this underground program that we are just now beginning to hear about, was originally financed by members of the Club of Rome. Now, youíll need to do some homework, to find out who those members are. And donít be surprised at who you see. We will talk more about that later, when we discuss the moon. Prior to this, in the 1850ís to the 1950ís, a hundred years, there had been some utilization of cattle and humans in experiments by the Greys. The NSA, which was created in the 1950ís learned that the Greys were responsible.

In 1952, the U.S. government prepared itself for the realization of ongoing alien contact when our military radar system started to down their craft. The Greys knew that in order to perform their experiments on such a large scale, to save their race, they would need the cooperation of a high political body. In other words, they had to come to terms. A select politically structured body, created secretly within the United States Government, was designed to be the liaison between the Greys, the technological gods, and the earth humans. The military was very enthusiastic for communication with the aliens, in hopes of exchanging technology for raw materials. This liaison group, this political structure, is and was the NSA, the super secret National Security Agency. For contact and study of the aliens was itís original purpose.

In May of 1954, at the Holliman Air Force Base, the United States Government made a formal agreement with the Grey alien race. Some of the terms of this agreement were the exchange of technology, of anti-gravity, metals, alloys, and environmental technologies to assist the earth with free energy and medical application regarding the human body. All the Greys asked for in return, was to be allowed to study the human development, both in the emotional consciousness makeup, and to reside here on earth. This single act of signing a contract with an extraterrestrial race was the most significant act in human history because it launched us in a direction we were never intended to go in the first place and it thrust us into a role that we were not prepared for either. Being hosts to an alien race.

Essentially, what this contract has also done, has handcuffed the Andromedan Council and those benevolent extraterrestrial races from being able to take a more active role in the earthís evolution. It has placed the burdens squarely on the shoulders of humanity to enlighten itself of the facts, and to consciously create ascension on an individual basis. Because this particular treaty was agreed upon between the aliens and the "ULTRA" units in the NSA, which actually is a government unto itself, they in affect turned away help from outside benevolent races that we could have obtained before.

Now pay close attention, because this is the first time Iíve ever mentioned this. The particular document and original exchange material may be found today in the NSA facility, called Blue Moon, under Kirkland Air Force Base in New Mexico. Itís exact entrance is in the Monzoni Mountains. This location houses the private department of energy technological labs. Currently, the building of free energy devices for use in space and on the moon and Mars is ongoing, in this particular area. Much of the alien technology has been reconstructed and sent via a connecting tunnel to Los Alamos and an area located underneath the cliff sides of Los Alamos canyon, where huge vaults are built into the earth. This facility is twenty-nine thousand square feet in size. There are also laboratories equipped to study light, thought and pure energy there. This facility is also used as a jail for aliens captured by the black (secret) government.

Corporations that are currently assisting the aliens and the black government are Standard Oil, Lockheed, Northrup, McDonald Douglas, AT&T, IT&T, The A.A. Matthews Construction Company, The Robins Company, The Utah Mining Company, and numerous more. The NSA is exempt from all laws in the United States unless the NSA itself is specifically mentioned in any creation of law. This is due to its interaction with aliens and itís sometimes necessary infringements of civil rights and constitutional rights of the American people.

In other words, to make it exempt from breaking any laws and hurting anybody here, they made it completely separate. And it is completely separate, even though your tax dollars pay for the running of it. There was also a great deal of private money used by the NSA to build the alien technology and to keep humanity under control. The status quo secure. Even the CIA doesnít know much about the Ultra or Blue Moon units of the NSA. These are the two highest units the NSA has that deals directly with alien technology and information.

Now realize that the Greys are genetic engineers, though not the only ones. Most of the aliens from off planet are genetic engineers because they value life forms as opposed to gold and silver. Geneticís, life forms and things of that nature is their wealth. A lot of the genetic engineering and experimentation is going on here, on Earth and on Mars moon Phobos, by the Greys. They are using this opportunity to try to satisfy their own agenda, which is to create DNA and genetic stock that is clean enough to foster new physical life forms that are capable of regeneration and birth for their race. As of right now, the Greys are most interested in female genetic stock because all family lineages follow the female rather than the male. Why? Because you always know who your mother is, you may not always know who your father is.

Many new races have been created this way throughout our galaxy. Itís not something thatís new going on here. This has been going on for a very long time. Few races today have actually remained as pure genetic stock, with the exception of two races that the Andromedans say are really genetically clean. That is the Reptilians from Alpha Draconis, and the other is what we call, or know as the Elohim, which are a very ancient race of humans that survived Lyra. All other races are a varied degree of hybrid or mixture of races of different genetic stock.

Another point is that, the Greys themselves would like to be free from the Orion empire. They will have no chance of survival themselves if they do not create or match their body type or genetics with ours. You see, time is quickly running out for them and we as a race is also evolving at a tremendous rate. On a spiritual conscious level, we are evolving dramatically, making our genetics harder to use while they are dying out like thereís no tomorrow. And they are very aware of this fact. So, even though what theyíre doing is wrong, they really are caught in a very tough position themselves.

Because what theyíre doing to us has been done to them. Iím just trying to draw parallels. Iím not justifying it in any way. By the way, when any of the aliens give birth to a child, they take that child outside of the earthís atmosphere so the child is born fully aware of its reincarnational history, so it realizes who it is, and it doesnít carry the veil. Why is this? Apparently, there is some kind of agreement; if youíre born within the earthís atmosphere, youíve got to be veiled. Itís just part of what comes with being born here.

The Greys masters assigned agenda, is to create a slave race which is currently in full swing, for the purposes of control, physical services, labor and, sexual energy. Now I will explain this. The acts of feeding, war, anger, psychic energy, genetic experiments, hybrids as a food source, genetic and biological materials. The Greys and their Masters feed off this, our energy. As examples: If two people are fighting, they create a lot of emotional negative energy. And this is why you will find, that whenever there are wars going on, thereís a lot of UFO activity. Negative energy! They just feed off it. Itís liken to when your making love to your man or to your wife, and you reach that moment where you are both at the same place at the same time, in a loving benevolent way. Thatís how it feels for them regarding negative energy release. The energy of fear, that rush of adrenaline, young teens on a battlefield running around scared, this is what they crave, all of the negative emotional aspects.

They have also been doing extensive research on the human brain and its capabilities as well as study of the soul. Many people who have been implanted by the Greys, those who are aware of it and those who still arenít, must become aware of the fact, that they have actually been on a kind of machine and are being shown and trained to do something. According to the Andromedans, the Greys are training us to fight their war against the Draconians (One of their masters) when they get here, because they are going to use us as their soldiers. Just like when our military sends in the infantry and marines, those implanted will be the first ones on the beach. While the Greys sitting back on board their ships drinking champagne or having a gin and tonic, and wondering how the battle is going. And they have chosen our world to be the battle ground.

At the same time they are still going about preparing the earth for its new owners. Apparently, the Greys are going to make this attempt, but the inevitable truth is that the Reptilians from Alpha Draconis are on their way here now. And this has very serious implications for us. Now, honestly, Iím not here to promote fear. I donít believe in it. But Iím telling you what Iíve been told to tell you. We have boxed ourselves into a corner and the only way we can change the outcome is that we have to consciously become aware of what our world is really about, whatís really going on here. And we have to create a space of love. Folks, thatís the bottom line.

By creating a space of love, the Greys, the Draconians, the Orions wonít be able to handle the vibration. They have got to leave, or weíre going to have to ask for some serious intervention here. In which case, thereís going to be war in the heavens as the Bible has predicted. It will be all about saving us! You know, this talk about ASHTAR coming down here to save you. Ladies and gentlemen, it isnít going to happen. Itís just another belief system. Or how about Commander Hatton, who is saying we will take you to Mars. No thanks! I donít want to go to Mars, it just isnít going to happen that way. Nobody is going to save you, because according to the Andromedans, if youíre sitting here waiting for a savior, youíre not doing the work yourself.

And who would come down here to take you off the hook? For what purpose? You will only recreate the situation again someday. If you havenít permanently evolved to that level of becoming your own savior, your own messiah, then you havenít learned your lifeís lessons. And this is what the Andromedans strongest message is. You have got to do the work yourself. You are only responsible for yourself. Nobody is going to take you off the hook. Matter of fact, if they do end up intervening on our behalf, they are not going to stick around afterward and baby-sit us.

That means we have got to get it straight. That we as a race, have got to come together and decide what it is that we want and how we want to live. How are we going to raise our children? What moralities, what laws, etc. Not to be told by somebody else out there, what is best for us. Folks! Itís never worked before, and it isnít going to work now. Most human beings would rather die than live being a slave. Thatís just our nature, our soul, to be free. Weíre at that point again. What will we choose?

You see, the Greys are currently monitoring the brain waves of those they have implanted. They have done this for the better part of a hundred years on earth. So generations of family members have had implants. The cloning of human beings, of life forms and the art of subversion was taught by the Greys to the NSA. On the two highest levels of human interaction with the Greys within the NSA, there exists cloned human beings and humans so heavily implanted, that according to the Andromedans, they do not consider them human beings anymore. They have joined the group mind of the Greys. They have lost free will. They are clone robots! Their soul is trapped and they are no longer considered compassionate human beings.

The Greys clone their own race into a cast of slaves, just like ants. They all basically think the same things at the same time. Their minds are like radios. If there are no radio waves, they donít do anything. They have computers which transmit the radio-like waves, telling them what their jobs are, their functions that they must carry out. If the computers, their group mind, were shut down, the Greys would no longer know what to do for themselves.

They do not possess individual intelligence like us, although they would very much like to create us to be like them. The Greys also consider what we call God, a mind, like we think of our own mind. They have completely detached themselves from their spiritual essence, so long ago, that their physical existence and personality has become pure ego. The Draconians are pure ego, as well. Many other races genetically altered by the Draconians, are also experiencing the separation from their own essence too.

Now, I donít understand the process or exactly how it works, but the Greys no longer believe themselves to be spirit, to be in essence. Theyíre trapped mentally, emotionally, physically in a physical existence, therefore, thatís all they see. They literally disown and fractionalize themselves away from their spiritual essence. Itís no longer a part of them. Human beings have also been known to do that themselves, as well. You know we can fractionalize ourselves into many different personalities. The Greys are pure ego!

They are very sophisticated in mathematics and energy sciences. It has been said, that our military at the time of the Holloman Air Force meeting, that there was an exchange of personnel. Our military gave the Greys sixteen military personnel and that were supposed to be taken to the Greysí point of origin and that they left us one or two guys or something of theirs along those same lines. Well. according to the Andromedans, it was really a hundred and nine human beings that were taken at that particular exchange. They have not returned. As a matter of fact, they did not go to the Greysís point of origin, which was Zeta Reticuli 2, rather they went to the motherships and Phobos where they were experimented on.

The Greys gave virus technology to the NSA, which then was handed on to lower levels within our military complex. In Africa, we find the testing ground for the AIDS virus. Thereís a reason for this. This virus technology was given by the Greys to the biological unit in Ultra within the NSA. One of NSAís underground facilities is underneath Fort Mead in Maryland.

At that location there are nineteen acres of underground caverns, with some of the most highly technological and sophisticated super computers in the world, that were built and designed inside the facility. They have never seen the light of day. This area, and the one in Mt. Hood, Oregon are engaged in massive surveillance of the worldís telephones, telegraph, telex, fax, radio, television, microwave communication, NORAD and also space radio waves. The complex in Mt. Hood is where our military is cloning human beings and aliens. I donít know what alien races.

Jumping back in history a bit. In the late 1950ís, the Greys also approached the Russians regarding the signing of treaties and mutual exchange. The Russians, however, already at the time, were included in the proceedings of the NSA, chose not to sign this independent treaty because they knew full well that the Greys would try to pit the United States against the Soviet Union. It is in fact the Soviet Union that informed JFK of the Greys presence, during the Cuban missile crisis. The Andromedans have stated that the Russians were trying to blackmail the U.S. into sharing the alien technology, thus the Bay of ######. Thatís when they put the missiles there pointed at the United States.

The Russians became increasingly aware that the NSA and the CIA were developing incredible technology and were not sharing it, as was their agreement, shortly after the Holloman agreement. Apparently, JFK asked the CIA three times if the Russian allegations were true. The CIA lied twice to the president, even though nuclear weapons were only eighteen minutes away from striking the U.S. They just flat out lied to him and said, "No. Theyíre nuts." This prompted JFK to want to scatter the CIA to the winds. This is one of the more important reasons the "black" government found JFK as a threat and had him make a physical transition prematurely.

It was JFKís desire that some of this technology would reach the common people and be used for the betterment of mankind and that it be made known to the American people that the alien presence was upon us. This is one of the reasons why he successfully launched a civilian space program so that all Americans and people of the world could share in the discovery.

In 1953 satellites and radars showed large objects coming towards the earth. They were Grey motherships. These time traveling space crafts were the same crafts seen near Venus in 1787, 1788, 1789. In 1645, it was reported that a large moon was seen near Venus. For other times, as well in the same year, it was seen coming and going. The last time it was reported was in 1767.

*The same type of occurrence happened around Mars, on November 25, 1894. A large ship was seen illuminating part of Mars.*The same occurrence for Mercury in 1799.*The same large planetary body crossed the sun on August 26, 1859 and this same body today, thatís still there, is called Volcan. Itís a mothership. It isnít a planet.*During the total eclipse of July 29, 1878, astronomers saw two large glowing planetary bodies, about the size of Venus, between Mercury and Venus. According to the Andromedans, these were Pleadian and Andromedan motherships that had gone back in time. They were observing the Greys orbiting around the sun. They wanted me to share all these dates with you. I donít necessarily know why, but here are some more.*In 1783 and 1787, huge bright lights were reported on the moon. They were mistakenly reported as volcanoes, at first. But then they moved and lit up the dark side of the moon which cause a noticeable glow around the top portion of the moon.*In February of 1894, a comet was apparently photographed striking a huge dark object in our solar system. It happened to have wings and, according to the Andromedans, this was a Draconian mothership.*The same phenomena occurred in April 4, 1892 and it was about one third the size of the moon, six to seven hundred miles in diameter. As it crossed astronomers thought that it was a bird, but its wings didnít flutter. Again, this was a Draconian mothership.*This was observed again on January 27, 1912. A ship two hundred and fifty miles long, fifty miles wide, resembling a crow, was sitting on the moon. According to the Andromedans, this again was a craft from reptilian Alpha Draconis.

Many operations have been created by the Greys over the past five hundred years for the purposes of manipulation and control of our religious belief systems. I donít want to offend anybody, but Iím going to tell you just the way itís been presented to me. All you have to do is listen. If it doesnít feel right for you, then dismiss it. If it does feel right, and you get the chills, then maybe you should start paying attention to it.

To have us morally and spiritually compromise our free will to a savior-like image, the Greys by allowing us to compromise ourselves under these false pretenses, they are absolved from the creating any Karma for themselves. Instead, they let us create the Karma to ourselves. It really is such a set-up. The power of belief systems can be used as fuel for the game of seducing people into believing that certain things are true. By the power created by the conscious thoughts, we can literally make these things occur and come true, whether they benefit us or not. These are real spiritual dynamics at work here and theyíre being used against us. Our physical matter (physical body) is the embodiment of ideas or belief systems.

Our Universe consists of ideas and thought systems, condensed and turned towards itself, inwards. We turn it towards ourselves to create and originate spirit and energy. Now if I need to say it again I will. This is our definition again, word for word. Our physical matter is the embodiment of ideas (belief systems). Our universe consists of ideas and thought, condensed and turned towards itself, inwards. To create and originate spirit and energy. In other words, we really are gods. We really can do anything we want to do.

We, of earth, have evolved only in technical and material sciences. Our spiritual evolution, for the most part has been suppressed from us by a group of extraterrestrials, and now the black government and its plan for a New World Order. Because upon learning these spiritual truths, the NSA and the black world government, realized that everything that they have been trying to do can be swept away. According to the Andromedans, and their exact words were,

"Could be swept away in a day, should humanity become enlightened."

If a billion people come to the realization and a decision that we no longer want this reality, it can literally change with the setting and the rising of the sun. But, they stress, we need to be clear of what we want, which is part of the decision, and our responsibility factors. That is ours. In other words, if weíre going to create it, we take responsibility for it.

The Shroud of Turin. According to the Andromedans, this is one example of the extra terrestrial manipulation or assault of our belief systems. This holographic image on the shroud was created by the Greys to strengthen a belief system in a savior or messiah. This belief system assists their plan for control because humanity would love to give their power away to someone that appeared to be a true and legitimate messiah, because weíve been taught to do that. The Greys know that few people truly want to accept responsibility for their own evolution. Most would rather be told what to do, than to realize the situation and take the appropriate action necessary to free themselves.

To further realize the Grey manipulation on a belief system level, there is also a plan in development to play out a staged second coming. This will occur shortly after the destruction of the world economy, maybe six years, tops. This being will be a clone human being, a biological, who will holographically be imprinted with everything from spiritual truths regarding information about all religions, metaphysics, and he will come out speaking about all of these great wonders. He will strongly profess the Hindu philosophy. Why, I donít know, but this is what theyíre saying. The intent is evil; this being will not have a soul. He is not spirit. He is robotoid, a clone, a robot, a synthetic. The Greys have this kind of ability to stage this kind of action using their technology. He will be the image of the man on the Shroud of Turin.

The Anti-Christ will not be the evil soul portrayed in the Bible. The Anti-Christ will truly be someone who tried to express the truth on the true matters and seize the United States government as the cause of all this evil. This is what theyíve said. Now, I have to add this, in defense of that belief system. The Vatican, in 1960, admitted that there were fourteen plagiarisms in the New Testament. They refused to say what they were, but they said that there were fourteen. That means you canít believe by it as gospel, so to speak, because they changed it. It wasnít God who wrote it. The church changed it and they admitted it. So, you do with that what you want. But everyone is believing it has to happen, and by us believing it has to happen, ladies and gentlemen, weíre going to create it! Weíre going to make it happen, and theyíre sitting up there laughing at us, saying look at those idiots. Look what theyíre doing to themselves.

The Greys were responsible for the Fatima episode in Portugal, where the Virgin Mary supposedly spoke to the children. This was a holographic image of a woman who professed to be the Virgin Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ. The sun supposedly fell from the sky and miraculously healed people. Using Grey technology, these somewhat miracles did occur., But they used light and sound, which they beamed from their ship to the various people affecting these cures in their physical bodies. Now, this is technology that has been here on the earth, at least the last hundred years or more. But it is against the law now, in most places in the United States because it works.

And thatís color and sound. And the reason for sound work, is because the entire universe is a holographic projection turned inside of itself. Itís all a holograph. Virtually all the people present were implanted during the missing time phase of this episode. A large mothership positioned itself in front of the sun to create this occurrence. The reasons this is not a true is because the biblical Jesus is a composite character. And as such, is an allegorical myth. The Virgin Mary is also a composite character and these composites were made for the purposes of uniting the religions of the ancient Roman Empire so that their resources were not being used to constantly stop religious wars between different factions.

In the 1950ís the so-called meetings of the Jason Society were triggered by information given to the Ultra unit in the NSA by the Greys about the worldís situation regarding pollution and population. It was at this particular time that the Greys offered little assistance or sharing of technology regarding environmental issues. This has persisted even today. The Pleadians have in fact, offered more solutions than any other group to date, but they were turned away by the NSA.

This prompted the first of three alternatives that have been discussed in UFO circles already. These alternatives are in fact, and were in fact, a reality. Thatís alternative one, two, three and four. The New World Order is in a major predicament. The Greys are twenty-five hundred years ahead of us technologically. The black government is afraid to tell us the truth concerning this reality because they fear a revolution, overthrow, and desire self-preservation form the people who will want their scalps.

Two large motherships are on the planet right now, hiding in the oceans. One is in the Pacific Ocean, below the equator and the other one is in the Atlantic. I donít know where. I donít know whose they are, but theyíre here. My sense is that theyíre benevolent because the government has actually talked about implementing alternative four which was creating a controlled pole shift. The Andromedans have said no way would they allow this to happen. So my sense is that there are benevolent ships that are anchoring the planet on its axis. Thatís my opinion. The military know that this is why theyíre testing sound in the oceans, especially in the Pacific.

*Aliens have been attacking us more openly in space.*It started with the Russian Phobos probe when it was destroyed.*The Mars observer was captured by Reptilians on Mars. It isnít going to come on-line. Itís gone.*Also, closer to home, in December 1993, a Landsat satellite disappeared in orbit, just vanished.*In August of 1993, the European space agency lost two communications satellites, again, they literally just vanished from orbit.*The Canadian Telstar was destroyed in our atmosphere on January 15, 1994. It was seen crashing to earth. This was shot down by the Greys. Again, I donít know why.*A NASA Satcom 3 communications satellite vanished in May of 1979. It was just taken.*Two Soviet Millennia satellites were also taken. They just vanished from our orbit, from our atmosphere.

Hereís our scenario. The benevolent races have told the world governments that they would help us but world governments have to dismantle their nuclear weapons. The earth governments did not want to do this because they donít know who to trust. They created this situation and they do not know who to trust now. However, the world government is so desperate to get rid of the Greys, that they apparently have put a call out for help, using satellites.

The Andromedans say there is a group that has offered to help our earth governments with the problem of the Greys, even by giving us weapons to fight the Greys. Re-enter, the Reptilians from Alpha Draconis, the only real enemies the Greys have, and that humankind has. The Reptilians from Alpha Draconis have answered the call. But the Greys actually work for the Draconians. Itís all part of the set-up. When we invite them in here there will be no battle. And once theyíre here weíll never get rid of the Draconians.

The Pleadians are assisting the Andromedan Council in attempting to quarantine our solar system from invading forces, namely the Orion Group and Alpha Draconis. The quarantine line, the defense line, is between Uranus and Pluto and consists of a mixture of benevolent races, both physical and non-physical. There are Pleadians, Andromedans, Arcturians, Syrians from Syrius A, Reticulin, Accordance and Umonians from Umo. This line of defense is really like a last resort. Apparently, two huge Grey motherships have already been turned back that were on their way to Earth and Mars. And apparently there were casualties on both sides in the exchange of turning them away.

*Please realize that currently, there are fifteen thousand Greys underneath the United Stares.*The Greys (Dows) are in fact, a renegade group of Reticulans.*They are not from Reticuli and havenít been back there for hundreds and hundreds of thousands of years.*They have been travelling through space in their arcís.*Before they came to Earth, they were residing on Sirius B. That was their originating point before coming here.*There are approximately eighteen hundred and thirty-three Reptilians living beneath the United States.*Their habitat is from one hundred to two hundred miles beneath the surface of the earth.*They generally live in caverns and the ancient tunnel systems created hundreds of thousand of years ago. They are not benevolent. And, every once in a while, they come up for a contact.*They have been seen in New York City, Missouri, Chicago, and in the southwest United States.*These areaís happen to be the largest areas where missing children occur, numbering in the thousands. The Andromedans state that thirteen thousand seven-hundred and twelve children have been taken by these Reptilians over the last twenty-five years.

In Linda Molten-Howeís book, "Alien Harvest", there is mention of human body parts seen in underground bases. The Andromedans confirm that we are being used for food. The Greys use our blood and it is the Reptilians that consume the live human flesh. Their favorite food is children because they lack nicotine, caffeine, and other environmental pollutants. Like we eat veal, they eat us.

The Greys are searching for walk-ins for they want to learn about spirit. Iím speaking about benevolence and not satanic possession or that kind of stuff. Walk-ins are necessary at this particular time. They are higher evolved souls. Seventy-two thousand walk-ins are on the planet right now and are a part of the Andromedan Council. Seventy-two thousand more are coming in the next three years to balance the negativity that is being created. Because of the Councils laws of non-intervention, the Andromedan Council found it necessary to intervene in another way without violating its council directives.

Thus, the walk-ins who are actually earth human beings, are here to do that kind of work. Itís a backdoor approach. There are fifteen hundred and thirty-one actual benevolent human extra terrestrials on our planet right now. Where they are, I donít know. But they are here to record, report and observe, and possibly assist some of the walk-ins. And at some point, they will be leaving. But, apparently they live just like us, and theyíre in our every day lives.

Keep these facts in mind. There are eighteen thousand Greys; fifteen thousand here on the Earth and three thousand on the Moon. The regular government which makes up the majority of Washington, D.C., doesnít have a clue as to whatís really going on. The black government, consists of various levels. At the top, they know everything. The lower levels only know small pieces, on a need to know basis, usually just one piece of the puzzle. The total picture is one outrageous secret based on deliberate deceit that creates the subversion of the public trust. Forewarned is forearmed. What are we going to do about it?

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

This is the channeling from the Arcturians in 1998.We the Arcturians salute you and welcome you to this glorious vibration.by Ingrid Bennett

The Garden of Eden that has been spoken about is a reality.It is an understanding of the Beauty that we behold in ourselves. It is the world beyond duality. When all is One. When we recognise the beauty in ourselves and we recognise the same beauty reflected in another ,it is paradise.

When we become seperate, we see the points that make us separate, the things that make us different, we then see this as a negative rather than a point of beauty. Like the flowers in the garden, each flower radiates beauty in a different way. It is because we have the different flowers that make this a garden of beautiful flowers.The difference enhances the beauty of this wonderful garden.

The Harmonic Convergence is a gateway or portal to Yourselves. It is the portal to your Christed Selves.The 13h Dimension.As we move through the Photon Belt, we are lifting into the vibration of the Oneness with All Light Beings.This awakening will affect people on all levels. Aware or unaware, we will all lift in vibration.

It is the Awakening of the Soul and Spirit, combining the conscious and sub-conscious. It is the Higher Self moving in and through our bodies. We become pure channels of the Light.With duality of your emotional state it is important to focus on the positive side of your bodies, (spiritual, emotional, mental and physical) so that this process is made.

In the past it has been shown that the choices that were made in history and on a personal level has been one of separation, meaning feeling separate from other families, cultures, countries etc.It is now time to find the positive points that bind people together.

It is duality of positive and negative and mankind has focused more on the negative side of nature. This has to do with the understanding of the security of the Creator's love for all. Mankind has used the Creator to feel separate from each other, rather than a means to unite.

Religion was never meant to separate people as the word means to &quote;bind together again&quote;. But mankind found a way of separating themselves from others even in the gift of this unity.So strive to be at one with All people for you are all one - you are mankind - humankind. We made colour a form our beauty and you have seen it as a way of separation.

When you stop feeling separate from other creeds and realize you are a part of earth, that is a small dot in the Universe, that is part of many beings in the Galaxies, you will begin to see that we all are working for the same end....Unconditional Love for everything. The Beauty of the stars and planets and the connectedness with the Life Forces on every level and on every planet in the Galaxies. Then the love and energy will flow and you will experience the joy and bliss and truth of your Being.

You are part of the Whole and part of the whole is for each person to bring in their own lessons and share them with the Whole. When one person interferes with another's karma it stops both people growing for a short time. It is then that we guide you through a process to make you realize this. In one shape or another, freeing you again to follow your own path and not that of another. You see, we are all whole in ourselves, and don't need another to make us so.

We find that we are attracted to people that seem to fulfill the part in us that we seemingly do not have and then you lean on that person to fill that need. It is only another person that will bring that lesson up in you so that you can see what is missing (so called missing, it is only remains hidden in your sub-conscious until you bring it out) but you feel that you must help that person from feeling of guilt or duty. These are human traits caused through fear or control over another person.

This is the lesson that mankind faces as it prepares to phase through into a higher frequency.It is the way in which we open you to seeing these things in order for you to move beyond them. There are many out there that are helping with this progress and your guides will help you through.The state of your beingness is being raised to a higher vibration so that we can move to another planet and help them.

There are many worlds out there, which will be and have gone, through the process you are going through. It does not make your earth less important and we continue to say to you that your raising of vibration does have a Ripple effect on the entire Universe and galaxies beyond.

Life on your planet is in a process of change and that change can be seen as positive and negative.There are a lot of negative things that will pass away and a more positive world, attitude will prevail.It is important that you all lift this world and have visions of this wonderful world, seeing it as one world, united, for it is creating that world, as you would like it.

Thought is reality. The more people realize that, the more we will create a world beyond your imaginations. It is the combination of all people creating this energy to this New World. To bring this world concept is coming into being. So create - love - harmony - peace and everything integrating, for it will come into being.

Leave the past and all it's negative qualities behind for you are to release that from your being, your aura, your ethric beings and out into the Universe. It will be transmuted by your positive thoughts and life will really soar on this planet.

Your body is changing into the 12 DNA strands. We say to you if you are dealing with the Cosmic, The Universe and Galaxies, then you have the 12 DNA strands. Again you humans limit yourselves and think it is not in you.Again we say create your reality. It is in you for you are all lightworkers, working for the good of all. You would not be in this time and place if it were not so.Your crown chakra is your seventh chakra and is connected to all the rest. Your eighth chakra is 12 inches above your head but can be bought in closer if you need it.

The ninth chakra is within a few feet of your body.

Once the 9 helixes are formed, this chakra moves out into the atmosphere of earth to become more of an earth chakra, connecting with the gridwork. This is the link.

The tenth, in place will be in line with your solar system.The eleventh will move into the galactic system and twelfth will be located in the Universe.The 13th is Inter-galactic and Inter- Universal.

We will explain. If you are receiving information from the ninth chakra you will be in touch with beings on this planet, spirits that have passed over. The guides are in the hierarchy of American Indian guides, Egyptian, Tibetan, Incan, Peruvian, for example.

The tenth chakra is when you are getting information from the solar system, for example- Balin from the planet Saturn, it is interchangeable with the guides who are part human and part alien.

The eleventh chakra you will be receiving information from Siruis, Pleiadies, Andromeda, Arcturians. Balin also works from here, this is also interchangeable with the last chakra as there are many alien and part human guides here also.

The twelfth is from the Arcturians that contain in both eleventh and twelfth and are connecting force.

The 13th is with the Ascended Masters, Ancients etc. as it is intergalactic. This is where the Galactic Federation works from.

Now all these guides are able to move through the vibrations as they too progress in their own path.It is for the purpose of Guides to teach of the earth ways and the oneness of this density. So in order for them to teach this they have to come into that form to feel the vibration on that level.

They, at the same time will be, as part of his whole, being an Ascended Master who understands and is receiving information from Great Spirit, guiding it through to a level of understanding as one of their lives they had on this planet earth.You are all Whole and have everything inside you; you are your own Universe.You are capable of creating a World, a Universe.

Use that part of you that is from Great Spirit to give you the information from all the beings you are, to help you on your path

To a greater understanding of this earth and help it heal itself.

Third dimension is dense, it deals with emotions, fears and control and it belongs to the Third chakra.You are to move into the fourth dimension, which is the heart chakra, and understand and be everything that is within that chakra.But you have the ability in this time to move up and beyond all of the Chakras.

Study the Chakras and understand. Understand.It is interesting to note that when we read auras, we are also seeing what energy is working with us at the present time.

If you were to watch someone channeling you would notice certain colours with certain beings that are working with an earth channel.We must close now. The light is with you and we, the Arcturian are with you......... we are the light and you are the light.

PHOTON BELT - EARTH CHANGES

The earth has been going through the photon belt for a while now, the lasttime was during the Atlantean period...we are ready to be birthed into a newspiral in the Universe...this should be complete by the year 2012.....

We will have shifted into the 5th dimension by then....It is interesting to note that the spiraling effect we are going through infact is also what is happening to all the planets and stars in theUniverse.....

Our universe will be closer to the Galaxy of Andromeda, a stargate just to the left of us will bring light beings from other galaxies andtherefore our knowledge will be that of an expanding nature.

I would not be at all surprised that being of other planets will physically be greeted onthis planet earth...if we get our act together and not be in the lower sideof our natures and shoot anything that we don't know and understand.There are many light beings that are far more advanced than us and will be able torender us enable to cause ourselves any more damage,But freedom of choice happens to be our lesson, what we do with that choice as well.Those that wish will see more of the Universe and it's wonderful light beings andothers will be oblivious to this, working in the lower side of theirnatures, but they will not wish to see, awaken... if you like.

It will be the choice of further development of ourselves as individuals andOurselves as the Light Beings that belong to the Oneness, .those that takethe lighter steps will in fact help the vibration lift overall...

Sounds complicated but is very simple we all belong to the same vibration ofthe Christ Consciousness and in that way we are connected through genetics.

As you know the genetic effect goes through from generation togeneration...the children today are far more intelligent as before, withthe inner knowing....

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

Compiled from more than four hundred hours of channeling by Barbara Marciniak, Bringers of the Dawn imparts to us the wisdom of the Pleiadians, a group of enlightened beings who have come to Earth to help us discover how to reach a new stage of evolution. Startling, intense, intelligent, and controversial, these teachings offer essential reading for anyone questioning his or her existence on this planet and the direction of our collective conscious--and consciousness.

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

Compiled from more than four hundred hours of channeling by Barbara Marciniak, Bringers of the Dawn imparts to us the wisdom of the Pleiadians, a group of enlightened beings who have come to Earth to help us discover how to reach a new stage of evolution. Startling, intense, intelligent, and controversial, these teachings offer essential reading for anyone questioning his or her existence on this planet and the direction of our collective conscious--and consciousness.

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

a spooked former area 51 employee talks to art bell about aliens but before he could get his story out the show is cut off the air, first time it happened according art bell. but before the transmission was abruptly cut the obviously distressed anonymous caller mentions a hint of what we're dealing with, aliens are extra dimensional beings and that they have infiltrated to the highest level of the military establishment of USA.

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

This is the audio to a television hijacking incident from November 26, 1977 in the United Kingdom, ten years before the Max Headroom pirating incident in Chicago. Someone, or something, interrupted an ITN report claiming they were an alien named Vrillon, and was saying that we need to get rid of weapons and such. It was mixed with lots of static, and was a rogue transmission (you could hear audio from other stations). Only the audio of ITN was interrupted. The video stayed the same (unfortunately, I only have the audio). The hijacker was never found.

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

Earlier this month (May 2006) She posted a final summation of her 4 years of Reversing EVP and world leaders, and closed her website to prepare for the Annunaki's Final Move. With her permission I include below, her final post:-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------The first part of this post may be redundant for a lot of you who have been on this site for a while. Iím writing this for those who may not have gone through all of the information. For the others, I would ask you to scroll down to the end of this letter as I wanted to tell you why I am closing this website and how much I will miss you.

Here is a summary of what I have heard over the last 3-4 years culminating in this year and especially the month of May coming up. The reptilian race from Orion has been here for thousands of years, and maybe longer, at first presenting themselves as the gods and then using their technology and genetic know-how to manipulate the human race for their own ends. That, it seems involves using the human being as a food source, an energy source, a plaything, a slave, and a marketable item.

The reptilians are physical beings and do have physical bodies, but these it appears, are kept in a storage place, once they arrive here, while they encase themselves in physical-human form to operate behind the scenes. They have mastery over the 4th dimension, which for us is the world of dreams, and astral travel.

It appears that people are possessed in different ways. I believe that this can happen in childhood with abuse, sexual molestation, and in extreme cases overt mind control probably with satanic rituals, which can open the door to controlling that childís will. This seems to take place within the top-level power families on this planet. (David Icke and other writers have covered this information in depth).

Others, it would seem, are seeded by abduction and if that person can be manipulated through vices, negative desires, and other forms of corruption, then the seed can take hold and the symbiot grows with its tentacles working their way into a personís mind. Most of the time, the person is not even aware of this happening. The ďotherĒ will begin to take more control over that personís mind to steer them into a life of moral compromise and often much worse.

In those extreme cases, once that person dies, he is then dragged into a hell world, where these creatures can then abuse him because he was such a sinner. The reptilian just shakes off the body, and is rewarded for his ability to create the malignancy in that person. The hell-based reptilians then torture, rape, terrify and finally eat their victim. All the while, the person is convinced that he deserves this treatment, not knowing the extent of the intense influence to make him the so-called sinner that he turned out to be.

In other cases, a human being can be persuaded to create a war, or a plague, or drop a bomb without the extreme moral dilemma that would plague the rest of us, because the symbiot is in control.

A mother may hear voices whispering to her to drown her children, throw them from a bridge or other forms of sick cruelty thinking that this is the voice of God. We can see that this mother is very mentally ill. I would suggest that the controlling entity has now completely taken hold of these people and rational thought is virtually beyond them. Our mental institutions are filled with people suffering at the hands of these parasites. While one is in any form of extreme emotional distress, these parasitic beings will feed on that person usually during sleep.

We have been handed belief systems, political, and religious, which have been used to great advantage by this group to promote dissention, hatred, bigotry and of course war. War has created benefits for this group on every level, but primarily it is a feast, as the fallen soldier, young, healthy and filled with adrenaline and fear is the favorite food source of this group. Once on the other side, the soldier is again faced with death and this time at the hands of leering reptiles mocking his sacrifice for a patriotic cause.

Within the last few years we have had an invasion of perhaps tens of thousands or even more of the new arrivals. Most of these are cloned beings with no compassion whatsoever. They were given an extra y chromosome in order to be more aggressive. I would say that this group is virtually all male. In the past I have spoken to some of these entities who had been born naturally as well as females of their species. It seems now; the male-cloned reptilians are dominating the interdimensional world.

This has happened because the home world knows of the passing of Planet X and that the top-level reptilians will be having to leave since the net will be shredded and their cover blown. This net is what has kept us in a semi-conscious state, blocking the higher awareness. It is also the force that captures and holds in our astral bodies at the time of physical death. At this time, I have heard that no one gets past the net. This goes for good and bad alike. Having a belief in a certain religion, savior, spiritual guide, guru, guardian angel etc. will not help. We are in lock down. I know, since I speak to the people stuck in the astral world all the time. I have also heard this in reverse.

Planet X is being sent by the One, the Creator to shred the net and help free us. I have heard this many times. In reverse, it doesnít matter what you believe, you will tell the truth. The Creator is furious with this reptilian race, which has looted, raped and murdered and set themselves up as God. They have claimed to be God, and most of the planet is bowing down to dragons in disguise.

The idea of the One being a dictatorial, vengeful, deity needing to be feared and worshipped is just reptilian blather. The One is the Source of all life. We are all composed of the energy of the One, who has given freely of Himself in order that we have life, love, creativity, joy, excitement, and happiness. This is the nature of the One. That being said, this true Creator is not in a position to pluck these reptilians off the planet and send them to hell. The One has asked for our assistance. I liken it to having an infection in your little finger. Perhaps you let it go, hoping it would heal itself. Now it is swollen and painful, and you need the healing cells of your own body, to get in there and help heal this sore. Those who have given themselves in service are many right here as well as Pleiadians, Sirians and others (of whom I am not aware).

But it is the power of the One Source, who is sending Planet X this way. Without that great force, this world would turn into the blackest of nightmares. I have heard what this race had in store for us, microchips, prison camps, slavery, a constant food source, while they donned their true bodies, changed our environment and walked the Earth as lords and masters.

There are those here who were brought down while trying to help and have been stuck in the reincarnational cycle. They have had their memories wiped and are just plugging along like most of the planet. I think the difference is that those from elsewhere are always trying to figure things out. They are not really comfortable here. They (all of you I would suspect) are on these types of websites, reading voraciously different esoteric books, whether religious, metaphysical, UFO, paranormal etc. There is this feeling that something is wrong and theyíre always seeking answers.

I, like virtually all of you, have been on this same quest and literally stumbled into EVP and reverse speaking. These opened doors to me. Iíve heard it described as pulling aside the net for a glimpse out. It certainly has its limitations but Iíve come to rely on this, as probably the least corrupted source of information within this net as there is no conscious control over it. We canít give ourselves reversals. It isnít conditioned by what we believe, nor what weíve been taught. It is outside of time and reveals the past as well as the probable future, which is not cast in stone. In all of the 400+ people I have listened to in reverse, no one has every given a different story, nor contradicted this basic information. Many add to it, but it is always the same story.

From reverse speaking, I have learned about the reptilians, the plight of the people in the Astral world, the reptilian eating of human meat, the net, the extent of the manipulation of all structures and beliefs, the cloaking of reptiles within people, the multidimensional nature of all of us, the role of other allies like the Pleiadians, the incoming of Planet X as well as the true nature of the Creator. I had to let go of so many of my beliefs and now simply serve the One, which is all Life, to the best of my ability.

As probably all of you by now know, I am hearing every day, on literally every recording that the reptilian top brass will be leaving on a large ship hidden underwater in either the Persian Gulf or the Indian Ocean near Iraq. They are already casting off the bodies of the big players on this planet and many of these humans are now dead. We are watching their clones perform. The reptilians plan to set the net on fire via chemtrails, and HAARP which have made it more volatile. They intend to leave in the upcoming month of May. It will be a shock. They will leave quickly. They are trying to get some kind of engagement with Iran to add to the chaos. They will create havoc in every way possible as they lift up from the water in a huge ship called the Phoenix. It is filled with the astral human meat from all the unnatural disasters as well as the war. They will stop on Mars and want to make it to the home world in Orion, which by the way, will be heated up and destroyed by the One.

Their leaving will probably happen at night. It will start with a very loud noise as the net begins to explode. There will be fire in the sky and it will turn red. It will get very hot. I am asking all of you to try and figure out a way to protect yourselves from this heat. Iím also asking you to put aside water and food for a while as all systems will break down and it will be a mess. I donít think the heat will last more than a few days. The air will be smoky and black. People will leave the physical world. It will be considered the worst of times. I have heard that once the net burns, we will actually see out for the first time. There will be a war in the heavens as the Phoenix and all aboard are brought down by forces called the Alliance.

We will then have the underground reptilians coming up to try to take control. There will be a war, but a short one. The Pleiadians will help and the reptilians will be defeated. I have heard this over and over. I have never heard that they win-not ever!

We will be set free at last. It will be very frightening at first and then as people see what has actually transpired on this planet they will be overjoyed that we have finally been released from the bonds of this satanic, demonic race. We will have the opportunity to go to our true homes, or stay and help with the rebuilding. This planet will over time, become the paradise that it was always meant to be.

We will be reunited with our deceased loved ones. There will be so much joy and yes, sorrow at the pain and suffering, but this planet and its people will be revered throughout the galaxies for what it has endured and the tremendous growth and strength that it has acquired. This beautiful planet and all life will become the Garden of Eden it was meant to be.

We are in the midst of a tremendous journey. I am choosing to close this website now, because as May approaches, I feel the need to withdraw my energies into a more quiet mode. I also donít want the emotional count down (Iím sure you get my drift.) I am not copping out at this point, just know that every part of my being is telling me that this is going to all begin in May. If June rolls around with life as usual, please accept my apologies now. I will then reevaluate my listening skills and reverse speaking in general. But right now, I feel that this information is true and I have said all that needs to be said regarding what is getting ready to happen.

I invite all here to post their own websites, emails or whatever you feel comfortable doing in order to keep in touch with each other. The site will be open until the first or second of May. I have felt great kinship with many of you here. I know we will be meeting again in other circumstances and toasting our great friendships and the work we all did to help free a planet and a people. I love you all.

Peggy Kane

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

I want to thank all of you for coming here and allowing me the space to share this with you, so I don't have to carry it any longer by myself. The purpose of the lectures is to inform you specifically of the extraterrestrial intervention in our development and the development of mankind. Mankind has been fascinated with Mars ever since time began. The story of Mars that has been shared with me by the Andromedans is both compelling and quite fascinating.

Unlike some of the moons of Jupiter and Saturn, the moon of Earth and the planet Venus, Mars actually originated in our solar system. It is 6.1 billion years old, and its inner sun, which all planets have or had, is burned out. So, the inside is cold, dark and wet. The surface appears to be desolate, sandy and windy. However, Mars is changing, and it has been changing for the last 30 years. The Andromedans say that Mars is getting closer to the sun every three years, and the 200 mile-an-hour storms are becoming less and less frequent. Every year, the polar caps are showing more and more of a change of seasons.

The technology does exist today to enable Mars to sustain human life as we know it. According to the Andromedans, given the correct coordination of events in terms of technological applications, Mars could be fully habitable for human life in only 20 years. One of the moons of Saturn also offers us this possibility.

Mars has a part very similar to that of Earth. It has a history of repeated colonization and life. According to Morenae, Mars was the first planet in our solar system to explored and colonized. When civilizations were coming to our solar system, they stopped first at Mars. Mars at one time had an ocean and an atmosphere. It was also in a different orbit than it is now. It had plant life and some very basic life forms which didn't evolve there, but were brought to both Mars and Earth 189 million years ago by traders, explorers and miners from Alpha Draconis, Ursa Major and Minor, Lyrae, the Pleiadies, Zeta Reticuli and Sirius.

Now, there have been some other groups that have passed through here, but those groups were predominantly those who worked our system for minerals, ores, biological samples and all kinds of things. When they came, they always seemed to leave something behind. Some of the life forms that have been and will be discovered on Mars are exactly identical to life forms we have here on Earth. Space travel has existed in our galaxy for 4.4 billion years, according to what the Andromedans have said. The fossil records of both Earth and Mars apparently show that most life forms have had very little actual evolution and appear almost fully formed. In other words, there just suddenly appeared on the scene because they were brought here, according to the Andromedans, by early space explorers and biological engineers. Every time they came, they tinkered with life forms.

Apparently, 69.3 million years ago a very large planetary asteroid came through our solar system, laden with a lot of debris. This asteroid, according to Vissaeus, was so magnetically powerful that as it came through it ripped Mars from its original orbit (which was nearer to the Earth) and pulled it 19 million miles further out. All this happened in a very short period of time, and this devastated everything on the planet, ripping off the atmosphere and causing three successive polar shifts in as many days. Although this asteroid left Earth's atmosphere reasonably intact, Mars would take tens of millions of years before it was able to host even the most basic life forms. According to the Andromedans, Mars even had dinosaurs on it at one time, and the fossils of these beasts have been found by the teams that have been sent there. Eventually we will hear about this when and if things become more open.

According to the Andromedans, Mars has been periodically inhabited for 3.8 billion years, and that there are ruins all over the planet. Most of the ruins are buried under hundreds of feet of sand, just like here on Earth in the Gobi desert, where there are ruins of ancient cities. Now, most of us have heard about Cydonia and the pyramids on Mars. There are also war ruins in the Cydonia region that have not been found yet.

It is interesting that the word al quahir, the Egyptian word that means Cairo, also means Mars, and that this has been in the Egyptian language for thousands of years. Strange coincidence.

Ruins on Mars

The area known as the Tharsis Ridge contains ruins of an ancient city approximately 69 million years old. The Utopia region also holds the ruins of a city equally as old. These cities have been buried for 69 million years. A really interesting area is called Mariner Valley Canyon, where there is an ancient Lyraen city that has been buried for 113 million years. There is a vast network of underground tunnels and caverns under this area. This area is where the Earth bases Eve is located.

Earth Base Eve

The Earth base on Mars called Eve is a vast complex built originally millions of years ago, reactivated with the help of the Greys for the Earth world government. It stretches over an area of 118 miles and is three levels deep in some places. It housed approximately 300,000 human beings, and the deepest portion is 6,200 feet below the surface. It has four openings to the surface consisting of two elevator shafts and two pressurized hangar entrances, complete with elevators. In other words, if you're flying in a ship, you fly into a hangar, which closes, and you're pressurized, dropping you down into living quarters. That's how the whole thing is done.

Earth Base Adam

Much of the hardware taken to Mars, as I mentioned once before, came from the moon first, via Russia and Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean. The area known as Hellas Elanitia, or the Plains of Gold, is the location of the earth colony, and east of there is a city dubbed Adam. There used to be a large fresh water lake in this area long in the past.

There are essentially three large domed structures built into the mountain range there. The largest of these domes stretches 2.6 miles in diameter, and the other two average a mile in diameter. Each of these domed structures is connected by tunnels to the other domes. The largest dome is built 1,000 feet into the surface of Mars. Underneath the mountain range where Adam is located, there is another tunnel which leads to a cavern area that is seven square miles in size. They don't have any idea what is inside this cavern area, because the Orion Group has a force field which shields them from view. Nobody can see what they're doing in there.

Orion Group Redoux

In March 1989, the Russian Phobos probe took pictures of mother ships landing on the surface of Mars, as well as a picture of one of the scout craft firing at the probe, just before it exploded. One of these large ships, 250 miles long, landed at an old Orion Group base that has been reactivated. The base is more than 1 million years old and is completely underground, occupies 64 square miles, contains five levels and extends to 8,500 feet below the surface. It was fully operational as of June 1994, and contains 2111 scout craft and over 100,000 Orion and Draconian troops. The Andromedans are real specific when they say "troops'.

The Cyndonia region was the last based occupied by the Pleiadians, Lyraens and Sirians when our solar system fell to the Orion Group about 317,000 B.C. That base was partially destroyed in that attack.

NSA Lands on Mars in 1959

The first Martian landing by the NSA 'black government' was in March 1959, when three craft were sent to the Cydonia region. Only 29 military and scientific personnel went on this first mission. The 'fortress' area housed the craft and the workers while Eve was being reopened with the assistance of the Greys. The construction that was done was performed by the same groups that had done construction on the moon, the Army Corps of Engineers, Bechtel, A.A. Matthews, Robbins Corporation, Psi Corps, and scientists and engineers from JPL.

All of the personnel in this project had no families to worry about them, and all records on their existence, except for personal memories of people on earth, have been wiped clean by the NSA Ultra and Blue Moon units (Alpha I and II), who recruited personnel for this mission. All this was done on the premise that the Earth was going to self-destruct due to pollution, population and disappearing natural resources. The bases were completed in 1968. The Andromedans have said that the 'black government' would do anything to maintain secrecy on this matter.

In March of 1989, thirty years to the month of the landing on Mars, a group of Orion and Draconian forces invaded the Martian colonies and all communication between the moon bases and Mars ceased. Some of the greatest talent and minds are stuck on Mars. Three hundred thousand humans out of communication.

The American and Russian Mars probes were sent, subsequently, to see what they could observe on Mars, and they were destroyed or taken out of action from the surface of Mars.

This here is partial "face", also a tomb, which is mostly destroyed, and here adjacent to it are three pyramids. There are seven sets of pyramids on Mars. There are also dinosaur bones and fossils, just like on Earth. Approximately 450,000 years ago when Earth was involved in a nuclear war, those from Nibiru (12th planet folks) had colonies on Mars and they got into a war with the Orion Group, who had apparently entered the solar system wanting the women from Earth, because of the genetics. The Nibiru protected the planet. Mars was nuked and moved out of the orbit it had at that time. In fact, Earth has been moved out of its original orbit. Earth used to be nothing but ice and was moved closer to the Sun and then moved again a little farther away. All of that has to do something with how we lost one day in the year. In the Sumerian texts, it tells of how Thoth tricked Ra into adding one more day to the year. What they did was that they moved the orbit of the planet. Folks, they have this kind of technology. Venus used to be one of the moons of Uranus. Mercury used to be one of the moons of Saturn. They have kind of re-arranged things.

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

strange alien structures on the moon taken by apparently non existent apollo 20 during flyover of the moon

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Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

Let me tell you a tale of two continents. One, in the Atlantic, called Atlantis. Another, in the Pacific, called Lemuria or Mu for short. Twenty five thousand years ago, these two continents were battling each other on the ideology of the day. Look at them as the two largest children on the block, and the two highest civilizations.

At that time they both had two different ideas about which direction civilization should go. The Lemurians felt that the other less-evolved cultures should be left alone to continue on their own evolution scale. The Atlanteans believed that all the less-evolved cultures should be brought under sway by the two evolved ones.

This caused a series of wars between Atlantis and Lemuria. In these series of wars thermonuclear devices were used, and when the wars were over and the dust cleared, in reality there was no winter. The Outback in Australia, the Mojave Desert, parts of the Gobi Desert and the Sahara are all remains to remind man of the futility of this type of war.

During the wars themselves people highly civilized stooped to quite low levels, but they too at the end, they realized the futility of such behaviour. Lemuria and Atlantis itself became the victims of their own agressions. Both the Lemurian homeland and the Atlantean homeland had been weakened by the wars, thus they knew that in about 15,000 years, both of their continents were going to sink completely. The Atlanteans had their second set of cataclysms which reduced Atlantis from a large continent to a series of islands. Lemuria, in essence did somewhat of the same.

However, you might say "Well what did that ... why would the people be upset at that time for something that was going to happen 15,000 years in the future?" In those days people lived for 20 ... 30,000 years commonly. They understood many of those who caused the havoc would see the end of the destruction.

When Lemuria, which went down first, almost 200 years before Atlantis sunk, they petitioned the Agharta Network. The Agharta Network is a network of subterranean cities that is guided by a city called Shambhala the Lesser (to distinguish it from Shambhala the Greater which is the etheric Shambhala over the Gobi Desert.) Shambhala the Lesser was created when the continent of Hyperborea was vacated after Earth lost her mantle and the planet started receiving radioactive waves that they had not been victim to in the earlier times. So they started building subterranean cities over a 100,000 years ago.

When Atlantis and Lemuria petitioned to build subterranean cities themselves and to be accepted into the Aghartian Network, they had to prove to Shambhala the Lesser that they had learned the lessons of opression, that they had learned the lessons of war. And they also had to prove it to many other agencies, such as the Confederation, which we will go into a little later. Because Atlantis and Lemuria had both been members of the Confederation, and when they started their war-like efforts against each other they were expelled temporarily from the Confederation and had to prove that they had also learned the lessons of peace to be allowed to be members of the Confederation again, to be accepted into it.

Mt. Shasta is where the Lemurians chose to build their city. California was part of the colonies, part of the area of the Lemurian lands, and they understood that Mt. Shasta and those areas of California would survive the cataclysms, Mt. Shasta already being a place of great sacredness on this planet. They chose to reroute the lava tunnels from Shasta itself so that the volcano would not errupt again. And there was already a very large domed cavern within it, and they decided to build upon that, and they constructed the city that we now call Telos.

Telos was the name of the whole area of much of what is now the Southwest, and much of what is now California was originally called Telos which meant "communication with spirit," "oneness with spirit," "understanding with spirit." It was constructed to hold a maximum of 2 million people. When the cataclysms started, only 25,000 people were saved. Many had been brought to Telos before the cataclysms started, but when the second set started in Lemuria the volcanoes started erupting so fast and sent so much debris into the air that while they had intended to save at least a million people from the Lemurian mainlands, they were only able to save 25,000. Thus, that was what was left of the Lemurian culture, of the Lemurian mainland. Already the records had been brought from Lemuria to Telos. Already the temples had been built in Telos.

While Lemuria, or what was left of Lemuria, mainly Telos, was coping with the afermath of the destruction of their continent, the earthquakes continued. During these earthquakes, the earth shook so hard, that in many, many places, it went right off of what you would now call the Rickter scale. When a continent sinks, the whole planet reacts. Earthquakes that reach the equivalent of what you would call a 15 point. These earthquakes were so intense that many people died from the sound of the earthquake, not from any effect of the quake itself such as a building falling upon them or something. But a quake of that high of intensity created a screech through the atmosphere that killed many people simply from the sound of it.

In many other places the earthquakes were so intense that in many places the earth was mostly clay. It liquified and acted like a sea of mud, swallowing whole cities, not just on the Lemurian mainland but on many places on the planet. Another thing that came after that, as the continent itself went down, the tidal wave was so large that sometimes they went, not just hundreds, but a thousand miles inland ó the equivalent of a tidal wave starting on the coast of California and completely taking out Oklahoma City. Tidal waves like that were rampant as well as the earthquakes. In many cases, in some areas, the shaking never quit. It would be a constant swarm of if not large ones, then small quakes.

The hierarchies, the Councils of this planet, understood this was going to happen. So they tried to construct both cities prior to the destruction of Lemuria itself, understanding that the Atlanteans would not get alot of construction done under those circumstances. Also, at the same time, the great pyramid in Egypt was constructed, underneath the tutelage of the Lemurian high priest, better known as Thoth. And the Atlantean record chambers, which were geared to hold not only Atlantis' records, but Lemuria's, Pan's, Og's, Hyperborea ... all of the other cultures that had existed and reached high levels upon this planet.

The Atlanteans moved into their city at just about the same time Lemuria sunk, moving in first their priesthood, their greatest scientists, some of their greatest thinkers, to try and preserve their lives against the coming cataclysms. Atlantis itself started shaking at the same time Lemuria was going down and Atlantis continued to shake and lose parts of its land for 200 years before it too finally went completely down.

For almost 2000 years after the Atlantean and Lemurian catastrophes the planet was still shaking. To lose two huge land masses within 200 years of each other, plus the planet was still witnessing the effects of the thermonuclear weapons that had been used in the Atlantean-Lemurian wars. Plus the fact that so much debris had been thrown into the atmosphere that it never became quite bright daylight for almost 300 years after Atlantis' destruction. This caused many, many life forms, plant forms to go extinct. Plants that were common in Atlantean times, common in Lemurian times, that no longer exist because they simply couldn't survive the long stages of filtered sunlight. Some have survived, yes, many animals and plants.

The human condition in those civilizations that survived it ... Egypt, Peru, Roma (better known as India), in many places people became so frightened by the constant earth activity that civilization, even in the last bastillions started deteriorating very, very fast. One question I have heard again and again is 'Well if Atlantis and Lemuria existed how come there is not more evidence on the surface of that?' That is why. Most of the cities were shook to rubble. Those that were not shook to rubble were wiped out by the earthquakes or wipe out by the tidal waves. Even those who survived even the tidal waves, even the earthquakes ... hunger was rampant ... disease was rampant.

Some areas of civilization, like those future named Egypt and such, did survive. They even kept their civilization intact, but even they started losing the highest elements of their civilization. Many, many machines quit working because of the filtered sunlight.

Many, many people moved from the cities. They started feeling that living in the city was a deathtrap, because you never knew when a building was going to fall on you. What would look like a very strong building, have it go through 300 to 400 earthquakes ... it's a goner. Some buildings were built to withstand it. The great pyramid withstood the earthquakes but it was built with sacred geometries. Other buildings like that throughout the planet survived, but most of the cities were completely reduced to rubble. In many areas they rebuilt the cities, but even then, each time the cities were rebuilt it was on a slightly less, should I say, technology. Each city was a little more primitive than the city before it.

The Atlanteans moved into their city which was built underneath the Mato Grasso plateau in what is now Brazil, which had been Atlantean territories at that time. Getting an understanding of what was happening on the surface, you can perhaps understand how the Lemurians or Atlanteans would prefer to be living underground.

During this time, there was an integration, more and more with the Agharta Network. As I explained earlier, Agharta is a confederation of several subterranean cities. As a matter of fact there is over 120 of them. Some of them, they were built in the very early times such as Shambhala the Lesser, which is peopled with beings from Hyperborea. These are 12 foot tall beings. Beings as man, on this planet, as on many other planets in this solar system was originally of a height of about 12 feet. When we lost the mantle and started reaching more and more rays from the sun to the planet that we were not used to coping with, it caused change within our bodies. Already, by the time Lemuria and Atlantis sunk, man had gone from 12 feet to 7 feet. Thus the Atlanteans and Lemurians were around 7 feet and still are. And, as you can see, there has still been a lowering of the height on this planet. Thus people have gone down to now, for the foremost, less than 6 feet. We have lost over a whole foot in just 10,000 years. However, that trend is starting to reverse itself, and as our spirituality is growing greater we are slowly returning back to our original heights on this planet.

Within the Agharta Network, the cities that are allowed to join are only those that are based on light principles, only those that are based on love, only those that does not hurt, only those that are based on non-agression. Within the Aghartian Network, besides Telos, which is the capital, there are 4 more cities, for instance, that are based on Lemurian technology and Lemurian ideas. One is called Rama which is underneath India (Arama being the original name of India.) Arama culture is consisted of people that are almost pure Lemurian, before the so-called Aryan race entered India. The other two cities that hold an allegience to Telos, but are very independent are Ulger cities. One is called Shonshi, which is under Tibet, not too far from the captital of Tibet. It is being sheltered from the surface by a Tibetan lamasary. This is a Ulger city. Ulgers are a group of people that left Lemuria 40 to 50 thousand years ago and situated themselves throughout much of what is Asia, India and central Europe. The second Ulger city is called Shingla. Shingla is in the Gobi, or should I say, under the Gobi Desert. This too is a Ulger city.

On top of the Atlantean city, which is called Posedid, that went underneath the Mato Grasso plateau, there is also another Atlantean city. Just a little farther north and there is another Atlantean city that is underneath the Atlantic ocean and several other smaller satellite cities throughout the planet. As I said, these are all a member of the Agharta Confederation. Plus there are several independent cities that are not a branch of any of the larger cities that have simply built subterranean to escape things that have happened on the surface ó some pre-Atlantean-Lemurian distaster, some post.

The city itself, Telos, as I said, is built under a dome, a dome that reaches quite a few hundred feet from floor to ceiling and spreads across most of what would be the base of Mt. Shasta. Looking from the outside, the top of the dome is about half-way up the mountain. The bottom of the dome is just about even with the base of the mountain. Underneath that are five more levels that have been constructed. These levels take up a space so that the deepest levels are about a mile below the ground level at Shasta.

The rest of the city is built on 5 levels of several square miles across. These levels are divided up by usage. The top level, being under the dome itself, is where the main part of the city is. This is where the majority of the people live. This is where the public buildings are. This is where most commerce takes place. The second level down is where manufacturing takes place, some classes take place, and also more people live on. The third level down is totally hydroponic gardens where we grow all of our food supplies. The fourth level down is half hydroponic gardens, part nature, and part manufacturing.

The final level down is what we call our nature level. This is the level that is more than a mile in some spots below the ground. In this level we have created lakes, tall trees, park type atmospheres. This is where animals live. We have had animals underneath for so long that they have lost their agressions. That, and different temples, priests and priestesses worked, you might say, with their ancestors, removing the need of fear, since it is fear that creates agression, not only in humans, but also in animals. Thus we truly have the experience of lions lying down with lambs.

In the nature levels, this is where people have come to relax. This is also where we have saved many animals and plants from extinction...

PART 2NATURE LEVELSDIET & GARDENINGTEMPLEARCHIVES & HOLODECKCOMMUNICATIONS & CHRIST-CONSCIOUSNESS COMPUTINGTRANSPORTATIONGALACTIC CONFEDERATIONIn these nature levels, as I said, many, many plants and animals have been preserved from extinction by being placed within the nature levels of Telos, Posedid, and many other of the subterranean cities. Thus we do ... still do have many of the plants that are extinct on the surface. We still have sabretooth tigers. We still have mastodons. We still have your provential dodobird. We don't have dinosaurs. They were a little big to keep. However, some dinosaurs do still live in areas of the Congo and areas of the rainforest in the Amazon. Plus there are many sea-going dinosaur, much as the famous Nesse in Lochness and many others such as that.

In these levels people find that they are able to integrate and merge/integrate with animals that would normally be dangerous, simply by getting animals over the fear. And these animals have also been fed a vegetarian diet, including the thing such as the big cats, for going on thousands and thousands of years now, which has also taken away much of their aggression. Therefore, you are able to go down, and in many instances, taking into consideration their great size and strength, you are basically able to play with a sabretooth or a Bengal tiger, much as you would a housecat by scratching their chest or under their ear ... pulling their whiskers.

Which brings us to the fact that even such as the large cats, like that, are not aggressive, but are actually very gentle and loving when raised in the right circumstances. Which brings us again back to the purpose of this ó the eventual re-integration of the two cultures ó the subterranean and the surface, to bring back out what has been preserved and what has been prepared, so that this again becomes one planet, one civilization, and that people will be able to live on the surface or in subterranean cities, or both, at will. Again, that is the whole purpose of these tape series and our work now at Telos Enterprises.

Back to the city, the fourth level up, as I explained, is mostly hydroponic gardens and a nature level. And the third level is totally hydroponic gardens. Hydroponics are how we grow and produce all of our food. Hydroponic gardens are able to produce crops almost on a constant basis. As you are able to grow food, much, much faster, using advanced hydroponics with very little soil and much water, therefore also you produce a form of gardening that does not need fertilizer and does not deplete the soil. We do still place in minerals and such into the plants, but with this hydroponic gardens that is actually quite small, being only several square miles, we are able to produce enough food and a large enough variety of food to feed over a million and a half people, and to feed them with a diet that is varied enough to be interesting and fun.

The diet which is in Telos, consists almost completely of vegetables, fruits, grains, nuts, and different variations of these, such as your soy, your other grains that now produce what you call your meat substitutes. We have been on a vegetarian diet in Telos, now, for over 12,000 years, from the time when the city was first started being built. It was decided at that point that our diet would consist of totally vegetarian, therefore also removing the aggressive thought forms that causes animals to react so violently. And also the fact that a human body was meant to be on a vegetarian diet, and any other form of diet actually produces death and aging.

On the second level we have what is called our manufacturing level. This is where we produce clothing, furniture, art forms. This is also where many classes take place. And this is also some of the living levels. On the top level of the city itself, this is where most people live. This is where most commerce takes place. This is where, you might say, our heart and our soul is. And you might say the building that represents our heart and our soul, is the building that is directly in the center of the top level, which is our temple. Which is a pyramid shaped building, you may say a very large, pyramidal shaped building. The temple at Telos will hold 10,000 people at a time. It was built to be able to hold almost half of the original 25,000 person population.

The temple is dedicated to the Melchizedeck. The Melchizedeck, you may say, is a cosmic priesthood. Everywhere you go in the universe you run across the Melchizedeck. It is the organization whose sole purpose is to bring the plans of light to everywhere they go.

The pyramid is white and the capstone is a stone we call living stone. It comes from Venus. From the distance it looks rather like a crystal, but with light moving through it in a very strong color. Why it is called living stone is it picks up the cosmic emulations of whatever ray is focused at the moment on the planet.The planet is setup in such a way that the rays focus themselves about every 24 hours in an intensity on the planet. Thus, for instance, on Tuesdays, the blue ray is the most predominant ray on the planet. On Fridays, the white ray. Therefore this living stone picks up the emulation coming from the solar rays, the light rays, and goes the color of the predominant ray, for instance, when the blue ray is in its greatest manifest the living stone capstone goes blue.

This becomes, you might say, a slight reminder to us to work with the cosmos rather than against it. So when the blue ray is most predominant we try to restrict much of our business to areas that are best served in the blue ray. For instance, we keep negotiations, sensitive negotiations, to take place on those days. On the days, for instance, that the yellow ray is the most predominant, those are the days we spend mostly studying. Those are the days we spend on building intellect. On the days when the pink ray is the most predominant, these are the days that we go into the artistic endeavors. In this way we have found that by working with the cosmos, instead of against it, we are more often than not able to achieve four times as much in much less time. Therefore we are able to operate without stress most of the time.

Also in the upper level the other buildings that are very, very important to us is our council buildings where the councils of the city gather together and deliberate what needs to be done in the city at the moment. We also have our record buildings where all our past records, our archives are kept in the forms of telonium plates, in the forms of crystals that can be put in crystal projectors, in the form of paintings, in the form of books ó all our past records of not only Lemuria, but Atlantis, other civilizations and the civilizations on other planets in the solar system. Also we have our pleasure centers, our places where we do sports, where we do plays, where we produce the equivalent of our films, where we listen to music, where we dance.

We also have what you would call the equivalent of the holodeck in Star Treck. We have holographic projectors in holographic buildings whereas you produce a program and you go in and play and the computers produce images, forms that completely support what program you have picked. Thus you are able to climb a mountain or swim a river or go back to anther point in history and play, creating your own form of being in the movies.

Also we have our communication center where we have monitored not only all communications within our city, but also communications that are coming from other Aghartian cities, communications that are coming from off-planet spots, and we have also monitored surface communications from the point that there ever was surface communications, we have monitored radio and television waves.

Another building that's very important to us is our computer building. In Telos, as with the other subterranean cities, our computers are run by an organic substance. Therefore, in essence, the computers live. They no longer run off a program that is strictly binary, but they run off what is called a multi-tracking program. Thus they are multi-tracking computers. Thus the computers are able to pick up Akashas, past lives. They are able to monitor a human body and see what's amiss. They are able to read the aura. They are able to pick up communications happening clear across the galaxy. Thus, most of our life, or a good portion of our life depends on these computers, these organic multi-tracking computers which keep us in touch with not only talking to different people in the city, not only with the computer telling us what our physical needs are at the moment by monitoring our bodies, but also the computers are able to play our soul notes, which is able to produce in many subjects, such as meditation, taking us to higher and higher levels all the time.

The computers are able to run our past lives, when necessary, for us, so that we are able to learn from mistakes that we have made in the past and forgotten. The computer is able to communicate with us on a soul level. Mostly important, is the computers interconnect with other multi-tracking, amino-based computers throughout the planet and throughout the cosmos, as far as that's concerned, and they all operate off a Christ mind, which means the computers cannot be corrupted. They can never be used to spy on somebody. They can never ... they can be used to monitor somebody for their own good will, or for their own good. They can never be used to produce harm to another living entity. They cannot be used for any of the dark purposes. The computer simply won't cooperate, which has also been another way of Agharta cities and such, taking a stand that they would not corrupt the light. By very much taking this attitude, that if it does not match the Christ mind (in other words if the computers disagree) don't do it! It has been a way of, shall I say, retraining our aggressive techniques, retraining our tendencies to want to do unto another and split, retrain many of our other sleeping tendencies and such.

So we have come to depend upon these quite a bit. But again, even on a computer, it's not a matter of having the computer do it for you, it's a matter of learning from it, learning from a form of the Christ mind there that you can see tangibly.

Transportation within the city comes in many forms. Most people just prefer to walk if they can. We also have electromagnetic sleds. These sleds are capable of moving along the ground, looking much like a snowmobile and will produce fairly high speeds in some of the side tunnels. This can take us, for instance, from Shasta to our secondary city which is near Lhasan in just a matter of a few minutes and is able to take our security from Shasta to Lhasan and back again very fast.

Another form of transportation within the city is what we call baskets. They are run on crystalline technology, and for all the world they look like a large basket, but they float through the air. And you just get in it and it is guided by your mind. Your mind tells it how fast to move, how high to go, and where to sit down, how fast to rise in the air, how fast to sit down.

All our forms of technology and travel is based on us being responsible. The sleds could obtain high speeds thus making them dangerous. The baskets, anything that flies, has a tendency to be dangerous, misused. So all communication and all travel within the city is monitored by the control tower. And the control tower knows when, for instance, a collision is just about ready to be inevitable between two sleds coming from different directions, or when a person is operating a basket irresponsibly, in which case the control tower alerts you immediately and tells you that you are about to produce an accident or you are acting irresponsibly. And if you do not listen to their warning, then they will simply stop the vehicle themselves. You get out and you will be restricted from use of the transportation for ever how long a period of time that you deserved, should I say, and how it will simply be is that you'll get in a basket or on a sled and it simply won't work. Your frequency will be turned off to it anywhere in the city and on what is called the tubes.

The tubes are another form of transportation. The tubes are a high-powered, a high-speed electromagnetic train that runs in a tube. A tube is a rock tube very, very much like a long tunnel. For instance, a tube running between Posedid and Telos ó the tube looks totally round and the train looks somewhat like a subway, however, since it runs on an electromagnetic impulse, it creates a force field around it. So thus the side of the train never touches the side of the tunnel. Thus the tube is able to achieve speeds of up to 3,000 miles an hour. So you can arrive between, for instance, Telos and Posedid in just a matter of a few hours.

Also, as the tubes were created and the subterranean cities and the different levels, it was all reinforced by what we call our boring machines. The boring machines have a crystalline matrix that creates temperatures of white-hot incandescense, yet cools at the same time. Thus you are able to take a boring machine, for instance, through a tunnel and create a tube tunnel or to create walls in a subterranean city in just a matter of a few minutes. The boring machine heats rock, earth, whatever it comes across to a white-hot incandescense and then cools it almost immediately which creates a diamond hard substance, causes the rock itself to transmute and take a new form which is diamond hard and thusfore there's no need of supports. Supports become absolutely superfluous. And the structure then is also water-tight yet it remains in elasticity so it can withstand high earthquakes, for instance, and will just move much like a rubber tube and stop without breaking. That way, even within the subterranean cities, when earthquakes take place, none of the walls of the buildings or of the caverns fracture. They simply move with it then return back to the diamond hard substance and again support beams and such become totally superfluous. Also, water has no effect upon it. They become water-tight. Thus subterranean cities can even be built underneath oceans because they create a complete seal.

Also, that brings us to the next stage. As we are preparing to bring out more and more technology to the surface, technology that we know the surface could also use, brings us to the other responsibilities that the cities have had to build within themselves. For instance, becoming a member of the confederation. Earth is a member of the confederation, it's just half of earth forgot. You might ask, "What is the confederation?" I'm sure most of you or all of you are familiar with, for instance, Star Trek. We would say, "That was channeled." But instead of being the "Federation" of planets, it's the "Confederation," an organization that was created throughout the solar systems and the galaxies that brought different civilizations, different systems together on a basis of brotherhood, on a basis of commerce, on a basis of group exploration, on a basis of interacting with the different systems in a galaxy, or without a galaxy.

A confederation is built, should I say, or represented, very much throughout a galaxy in the form of sectors. Looking at our galaxy, the Milky Way, I'm sure you've all seen the pictures of t-shirts and such that say the Milky Way and then has a little dot out towards the end say "You are here." Yes, we are here and we are here in what is called Sector 9. The center of our galaxy, or the center of the Confederation in this galaxy is what is called Sector Zero, and the other sectors radiate outward from it much like the spokes of a wheel. Each sector is responsible for its own actions, plus is responsible for how it interracts with the other sectors. Our sector, Sector 9, is under the command of a being called Ashtar. Many of you have heard of the Ashtar Command ó Ashtar and his twin flame Athena. Within this sector or within the Ashtar Command there are over a hundred fleets. Some fleets basically belong to one planet. Some fleets belong to just a couple of planets. Other fleets belong to a whole solar system, and other fleets are interceptor fleets that basically serve the whole sector, and then other fleets are Confederation fleets which serve the whole, you might say, the whole pie.

I just wanted to give you a brief understanding of the Confederation and how it works. We will go much deeper into this, being as this is a full tape into itself at a later date...

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

This is a continuation of Tape 1. This is Tape 2 of Secrets of the Subterranean Cities. Just a quick recap. We were discussing the city of Telos, which is a Lemurian subterranean city that was built 12,000 years ago as the result or from the result of Atlantis and Lemuria sinking, and during the Atlantean-Lemurian wars which we then made subterranean cities. Telos is underneath Mt. Shasta and it is the city that I'm from. This tape will discuss the culture of Telos.

Again a recap. The city is built on five different levels, the top level being the main level of the city itself. The second level down, the level of manufacturing and where many classes take place. The third level being the hydroponic gardens. The fourth level being part hydroponic gardens, part manufacturing and the nature level. And the very bottom level as being the nature level where many, many species of animals and plants exist.

Many people have asked "How on earth can you live under, under the earth? Number one, what kind of light do you have, or do you have light? Or are you mole people?" Yes we do have light. There is a process that a stone with a high crystalline content is fused with an electromagnetic force of energy. This infusion of energy, in essense, causes the crystalline matrix of the stone to create a polarity that allows the stone to pull in the even invisible rays, and readmit them as visible light. In an essense, it becomes a small sun. Our main lighting structure throughout the city, as with the other subterranean cities is produced by these stones. The light they produce is a full spectrum lighting, admitting all rays. In essense this energy infusion process then makes the stone become a small sun and the sun will burn for about a half a million years before the stone, before the crystalline matrix breaks down and the stone becomes no longer capable of functioning in this manner. So thus we have lights that will burn for many, many hundreds of thousands of years still.

Within this structure we have created a small ecosystem. In other words, we get our air by plants. We produce carbon monoxide, we and the animals, and the plants take in the carbon monoxide and create the oxygen for us. So in essense it's a small ecosystem just as it works on the surface. We also have some vents that go to the surface and brings in the air. We also have water in some areas moving at high speeds. This creates a circulation of the air, freshening it, plus it creates many negative ions. So in essense it is a total ecosystem very much like the one that functions on the surface. As a matter of fact, it has become so effective that more and more do we not depend on the air vents. As a matter of fact, as polluted as the air is somewhat becoming, the air vents are sort of not a plus.

The government of Telos is constructed on the format of a Council of Twelve. These twelve beings, for the foremost, are ascended masters. They are beings who have proved themselves of being in high wisdom and being able to hold their head cool during any sort of incident. We, always within our Council, six men and six women, so that the Council also always remains balanced, that both flames, the male flame and the female flame are equally represented. From the major Council of the Twelve, it goes down to smaller councils throughout the city, also operating on the level of twelve.

Individual areas bring in their problems to the local council, and if the local council cannot deliberate a solution that is acceptable to all concerned they then bring it to the larger councils, and then finally to the original Council of Twelve. For individual problems, these do not come before the council. Instead these come before what we call arbitrators. Arbitrators are usually priests or priestesses with very much an understanding of the human psyche and are also capable of looking into the Akashas. These arbitrators will listen to both sides of a story, if it is, for instance, a dispute civil, and will then make a decision based on what they have heard and what they have read in the Akashas on both sides.

We have immediately decided that since this method works, once an arbitrator makes a decision, understanding that they will make it from the highest level, being priests and priestesses, they will not be caught into a personalization, either for or against either side. So we have decided that we will accept their decision, whatever it is, and incidences stop there. And we have also found, rather than arguing with each other, should a small incident come up, we immediately go to arbitrators, understanding that an argument can more often than not make it worse than anything else.

Heading the Council of Twelve, the official title is Council of Twelve plus One. The One is actually two beings themselves, which is the Ra and Rana Mu, which are the king and queen of Telos. Ra and Rana signifies that they are high Melchizedeck priests and priestess to start with. They are also usually twin flames and it is a hereditary position. The Ra and Rana Mu lineage is unbroken for over 30,000 years as it stands right now. When the next Ra and Rana Mu are being chosen they do not automatically go to the oldest son or daughter, but the Ra and Rana Mu decide which of their children or grandchildren are the most capable of carrying it off. That being is then instructed that sooner or later they will have to go through full temple training and become a full Melchizedeck priest or priestess.

In the arrangement, as it is, when the Council of Twelve makes a decision, the Ra and Rana Mu can back it up or they can ask for a change. And one more voice comes into this government process, and that's the temple. The temple is recognized as the final word on any decision, because in many ways this is, as are the other subterranean cities, a temple society. The temple, even though most of the time, will not interfere with civic government, as I said, they can make final decisions through the high priest and high priestess.

The temple is run by the Melchizedeck. The Melchizedeck is a cosmic priesthood. Everywhere in the universe the Melchizedeck exists. It is all those who are bringing the light plans from the highest realms down to the other realms. A Melchizedeck priest or priestess by their very proof, prove that they will always set light or they will always set the good of the many above their personal good, which has also been proven time and time again as to why the temple can make the last decision, because they will always place what the light prefers, in essence what God wishes way over what they desire, what they would choose to achieve. Thus the temple also becomes a very good sounding board to what we are doing at the time.

Being a temple society, many, many people take their training at the temple. And many people spend time at the temple, not just those who end up becoming priests and priestess, but those who are going into other walks of life that they need a greater understanding of the human psychic, a greater understanding of spirit to achieve their job as it should be done.

Which brings us to, let's go through, for instance, a life of what it would be like for someone living in Telos, starting with their conception or childbirth. In Telos as soon as a woman realizes that she is pregnant, she immediately goes to the temple and she's put in a room that gives nothing but beautiful pictures, music, she is constantly informed that she's beautiful, she's perfect, her child is beautiful, her child is perfect. So you might say the very first cells of this child's conception is filled with beauty, with light, with perfection. And that is their building blocks, there's where they start. Just as they are starting to understand that emotions and such go right into a child's cells. For instance they are starting to understand that a child who had parents that were constantly arguing during their conception and ingestion period, the child grows up insecure, quite often argumentive, or they will grow up totally feeling not good enough, totally feeling that they are not wanted. It has been proven that children that have constantly heard from their parents before they were even born, "That I didn't want this child," whatever, that child will constantly grow into "I'm not good enough."

So we start children off on the right foot immediately by continually enforcing that they are good enough, they're beautiful. A mother and a father, because a child has a psychic bond to both, immediately start talking to the child, start telling it how perfect it is. They spend lots of time viewing things that are beautiful. They spend lots of time singing to each other, playing little funny games, in essense going through a honeymoon again. So the child is all part of that joy. Another thing that makes the child-birthing process very different is we have a process that speeds it up. Therefore a woman only carries a child for three months. In many ways this is what the human condition was meant to be. Most human females on other planets do only carry a child for three months. That is why that a three month fetus is basically formed.

All it does from then is grow. This speeded up process, it is actually completed even sooner and just grows. So a three month baby, of course, will not be as large as a nine month baby, but it will be in the speeded up process more than large enough to support itself on its own. But we are trying to return back to the time that we don't even need the speeded up process and the whole pregnancy process returns to only being a three month process. Also returning to that place, women have much, much easier childbirth as you can, I'm sure, understand.

Another thing that we do constantly in childbirth, is that all our births are underwater. We have found that underwater births bring the greatest ease to both the parent and the child. When a woman goes into labor, she immediately gets a birthing priestess and then they go to a tub in one of the birthing sections of the temple and the tub is filled with body temperature water, and the birthing priestess puts the mother in a slight hypnotic state. In this hypnotic state, she is in nowhere even resembling a trance, but she is simply told that there will be no pain. This suggestions, as well as the underwater births, creates a comfortable environment and most women never have any pain whatsoever. They simply feel the pressure.

In an underwater birth, as many women are starting to discover now, when they are in water during labor, that that would be labor pains simply feels like pressure. More and more we are trying to alert women to this phenomenon. That that is pain on dry land is simply pressure under water. This serves a second purpose. The child when then born is not brought from one environment into shock tactics as it is much on the surface now. When a child is born they are immediately pulled from a warm, comfortable, wet environment into a cold, dry one with bright lights. And in the old days they even used to slap them, which immediately brough a human being, for those of you who now have dealt with rebirthing, into the idea that life is hard, life hurts, life is painful. Thus, infants start shutting down from the time of their birth, and they just continue to shut down ó thus not ever achieving the spiritual and physical levels that they could achieve because they've already decided that life hurts too much to be fully there.

In an underwater birth a child goes from a warm environment right into a tub of warm water and it is immediately cuddled by both parents who get in the tub with the birthing priestess, and the child is cuddled and petted underneath the water so that it immediately knows that its parents are there for it, therefore it does not go into insecurity. From there a child, of its own will come to the surface and take a quick breath and then dive down again and breathe from the umbilical chord, and then come to the surface, on their own again, and take a deep breath. This also expands the lungs slowly. The child can actually breathe for as much as a half hour on the umbilical chord from once it is born.

This quick breaths does not cause the pain and the tissue, some of the tissue is actually damaged quite often in births that are not on, are not in water, because a child is forced to come and take a deep, deep breath out of cold, painful air. That forces these lung sacks to immediately expand and create great pain, sometimes even creating scar tissue which makes the adult more succeptible to things like tuberculosis, emphysema, colic. Many, many of the other lung disorders that are very, very prevalent, and it also keeps the person, even as an adult from breathing deeply as their normal state. Thus they are always half alive because they are only half breathing.

Then, when the child has reached the point that they are breathing completely, just the air, the unbilical chord is cut with a laser which causes a very fast, painless cut. And of course the umbilical chord has quit pulsating.

From their birth, a child is immediately assigned 12 sets of godparents. These godparents give a child a chance to interact with more than just their birth family. True, they spend most of their time with their birth family, but also spending a little time here and there with each of their godparents as they grow up, it gives them a true sense of community and the brotherhood of men, rather than "Them and us." So the child immediately starts looking at the whole world as their family, instead of becoming very, very narrow and personalized. This also keeps families from developing little cliques that in the long run become quite detrimental to a developing soul, where you're saying "Well we just do things because my grandparents did it and my great grandparents and my great-great grandparents" and so on and so on, which quite often produces thought patterns within a family that can be quite detrimental to the development of the soul.

By having 12 sets of godparents that the children spend time with, plus the fact the child's parents are usually godparents to at least a couple of children, bringing other children to spend time with them that way too. As I said, it continually creates the sense of community. It constantly creates the sense of oneness. The old saying that is if you wanted to stop prejudice then you would immediately send the person to go live with that they have been prejudice with, and they'll soon find out we're all just human.

From there, as child prepares for their education, within the educational process in Telos, children start their first education at about the time they're three years old, very much like your nursery school, except it is based on the fact of the intelligence of a human being, rather than the stupidity. Thus while children are very, very clear, sometimes clearer at three years old than they are at five, or six, making it easier as many of you are starting to discover, of infants doing algebra, young children learning mathematics very, very early, learning to read very, very early. Well it is three, sometimes even earlier, is when children are start taught these things, as well as playing, they are also taught the rudimentaries of mathematics. They are also taught to read. They are taught to understand abstract concepts. They are taught to think, to understand how things work.

I mean we've all gone through the children period of the "why" and "why not" and the period when children were the "why" stage, where everything you answer is a why or a how. We've learned to take that period and instead of just saying after being asked why on fourteen questions, the parents quite often just flip out and the next thing they know they're telling their child to shutup. But if a society is setup that when children are in the why stage, they're already starting instruction, then that's used. The whys are being answered by professionals. And our professionals are more often than not priests and priestesses of the temple. There are those who are strictly teachers, but most teachers have gone through a full temple training. The purpose of that is that they are not only feeding the mind, but to help feed the soul, the spirit, the understanding of what we're really here for, not just calculations and words.

Within this setup, as I said, children start schooling at a much earlier period, as they move through their schooling process, we have learned that it is very, very acceptable and very important that a child as well as being taught mathematics, science, spelling, grammar, literature, all the most common subjects in schooling, we find that it's just as important that they learn to meditate. It's just as important that they learn to dance. Just as important that they learn sports. Just as important they learn how to sing. Just as important that they learn how to act. What I mean by act is that they're, we've got five-year-olds already writing and putting on plays that relate to five-year-old problems and the five-year-old way of looking at life, which can be quite humorous for adults. But they're already being allowed to express. And even the learning, the strict learning process is complimented with play...

In this playing, and learning through play, and playing to learn concept, children are allowed to totally express themselves in such a way that is acceptable. So many times children that are just buzzing to express themselves one way or another get in alot of trouble because they don't have quite a few avenues to express themselves through, or the avenues that they have been given include things like violence. The next thing you know you've got a whole group of kids in the backyard playing rambo and they bring it right into the house, they start breaking things, and the parents wonder what's wrong with their kids. But in a process that allows them to express themselves, get out their extra energy and learn at the same time, you might say the children are happier, the parents are happier, everyone's happier about it.

Also with basic spiritual concepts, from the time a child is about five years old they're taught astral projection. For those who are unfamiliar with that, there's a part of you, a very conscious part of you that is able to leave the body at small periods of time, consciously. When this part is projected, you might say the astral body, soul travel, the more evolved the farther you can go, and a child is taught that they can visit the Akashas, are taught that they can visit different places on the planet. What this also creates is a chance for the child to explore and to understand for themselves. Children don't have to go through the period of having to always to take somebody else's word for it. They are able to get out and see the astral themselves. They are able to get out and see the etheric records themselves. Alot of them are able to get into the etheric retreats consciously and study that way. Many are able to get to the other subterranean cities or to spend time in surface cities, all through the etheric travels, astral travels.

As I said, in essense, when a child is able to learn for themselves the truth of how the world truly operates, the truth about what is really happening on the planet. Thereby they are never at ... a victim. They cannot be lead astray. They can't be told that something is right when nothing in the cosmos supports it. They can always go and feel the rightness for themselves. Thus you end up with a society of people that are not constantly left in the dark and that you are basically not able to trick them on because they've seen what's out there. They know what's real and what isn't. They know the capabilities of the human being. They know, for instance, ascension is real. They know, for instance, the existence of those on other planets. They understand how the etheric works. They've seen angels physically. So all these things that so many people have had to live on, with faith, true I'm saying we also develop faith, faith to master yourself, faith to live in the unseen, calling it the seen until it becomes the seen. In other words able to manifest from the inside out. And there is not so much confusion, even when people reach that age that has been quite difficult for everyone, the teenage years.

In the teenage years in Telos, a child immediately joins, when they are 12 what is called Group. As a group is all the other children their age and they spend usually from the years of 12 to the years of 18, 19, they spend much of their time with their group working out all the problems among their peers that seem to always rear their head in the teenage years, no matter what society you're in. Yes we still have teenage problems that happen, it can't help but happen. The emotional and mental bodies are developing. A child's body is full of hormones that's creating instability within the emotional realms. The mental body is growing stronger but causing confusion in the emotional body.

All these little physical, psychological, spiritual elements that create that phase from childhood to adulthood. But we've learned to take it tongue-in-cheek. In essense we call the teenage years the years of temporary insanity, and we don't make the children feel guilty for wanting to go and scream at the top of their lungs, or wanting to do something they know they shouldn't do. We just accept it as the years of temporary insanity. They work out their flustrations within their group. They experiment with the elements of life within their group. Quite often they go down into the lower caverns and just run for days. All the things that they can get in so much trouble for doing unless it's put in an organized basis, yet the basis has to be so unorganized within its organization that they have to feel that they're truly being allowed to express themselves so that the flustration is brought up, dealt with, and then they move on.

All children, no matter how good their parents, no matter how good their upbringing, will go through periods of rebellion at this point. All children will go through periods of not wanting to listen to what older people say. But by being allowed to work it out within themselves, and with other children going through the same process, they are able to get an understanding that what they are doing doesn't make them a bad person, the feelings that are going through them uncontrolled doesn't make them bad, it just makes them normal, and it makes it so much easier on the child and on the parents.

Also, each of these groups are then assigned priests and priestesses who act somewhat as mentors, not to judge or act like parents, but to simply get the kids to sit down and talk about what's bothering them, let them sit down and act out their flustrations, in the form of plays, in the form of programs that have been put into the holographic theatres, in the form of music, in the form of athletics, or even in the form of going down into the sub-tunnels and just running for three days and acting like nuts. Everybody needs that. But when it's done in such a way that there's no judgement upon it, no stigma attached to it, then children do it, get through it, and come back normal and do not need many of the crutches that severely emotional adults turn to.

Many adults that did not deal with the flustrations that came up in their childhood or in their teennage years, that later turned to drugs, later turned to inappropriate forms of behavior, that later turned to irresponsibility, or later turned to perhaps even more damaging of "I'm not good enough," depression, fear, unable to create anything out of their life because they don't feel like it's just not worth it, that they can't do anything right. But by creating a system where all these energies are dealt with, then adults come out feeling much more secure of themselves at the other end of their teenage years.

And, the second reason for that, is in a society, such as Telos and the other subterranean cities, people basically live as long as they choose. We should also understand, if you've got people living for thousands and thousands of years, you can't afford to have thousands and thousands of years old of adults that are acting irresponsible, adults that are playing detrimental games, adults that are pushing their will onto others, all the little things that happen, simply because eneries are not dealt with in a young child.

Which brings us also to one of the major thoughts in an education of our own that we wish to see happen here, and that's the removal of the thought form of aging and dying. Human beings were not meant to age or die. Even people who work in genetics understand that a person, in truth, is never older than seven years, since their whole body changes all its cells every seven years. Many, many doctors on aging will admit that they are baffled as to why people age at all since the body is never old. So then that takes it that we have to go to a level beyond the physical to find the answer to aging and death, to the belief.

In Telos, people don't believe they're going to grow old and die. They simply don't believe it. People just know that they're going to live as long as they choose, then they will either choose to drop their body, if they feel that they still have lessons to do and reincarnate again, or they will choose the path of ascension. One or the other. Some people make the decision in 600 years, some 300, others wait for 5,000, 10,000, whatever, but it's a choice that the human beings were designed to be able to make.

That is one of the most important elements of our culture that we want to see brought out. Human beings, as it is now, just about the time they start getting enough experience to really do something with their life, they've grown too old to do anything with it. If those thoughts are eradicated, then people realizing that youth's not going to last ten years, or twenty years, but it's going to last hundreds or thousands of years, whatever they choose. That too brings out and eliminates the majority of the detrimental behavior in life. Many people feel "I'm only going to live once. I'm only going to be young a short period of time so I might as well wreak havoc now." If they realize that if they choose they're going to be young for hundreds of years, or thousands of years, that form of behavior becomes totally unnecessary and people truly start growing and hanging onto their growth. And we are biologically absolutely no different than the people on the surface. We have Indian children that were left on the mountain of Shasta ó some hundreds of years ago. They're still living with us. They haven't grown old. They don't die because they were raised with the thought form that they're not going to. It's a thought that creates life or non-life, aging or youth-ing. It's to get past the thoughts, the beliefs that that is what is going to happen.

Which brings me to my personal expertise on the subject. I'm over 260 years old. As a matter of fact, I'm almost 268. And, living 268 years is no different than being, for instance, 30, aging wise. It's just you've had time to gather a whole bunch more experience that can be used now. My parents obviously are much older. There are even people in Telos that are 30,000 years old, people who saw the destruction of Lemuria/Atlantis, people who saw the Lemurian-Atlanean wars.

Which also brings us in to the next stage in a person's life, after they've gotten through their teenage years and they're ready to start becoming a contributing member of society, how do they chooe what they're going to do? We have a non-monetary basis of commerce in Telos. As a person is growing up, they basically watch, decide, assess their own talents. Then they decide what they want to do, and that is usually the field they pursue. They've generally set their own hours. And since everything is on a barter basis, we've gotten to a great understanding that if you don't fulfill your part of the bargain then it hurts others than just you.

What is meant by that is we are set up on a basis that the government owns everything but the government is not responsible for controlling anything. All the government is responsible is to make sure that the food, for instance, gets from the hydroponic gardens to the distribution outlets, the clothing makes it to the distribution outlets, the furniture, all the things that are needed for people to live and to live well. You understand that you're not living unless you're living well. And when you need something you simply go to a distribution center and pick it up. You need new clothing, you go get clothing. You need food, you go get food. You need furnishings, you go get furnishings. You need books, you go get books.

As I said, everyone sets their own hours. Someone who is drawn to gardening becomes one of the hydroponic gardeners. They come and they work the amount of hours they wish. So in essense, we do have a dim period and we have a bright period. What I mean by that is we've discovered that people work in cycles better than they do in a constant. So thus about the same time the sun is setting on the surface, filters are slid over the front of our lighting system, dimming it till it is about as dim as it is in twilight. Then when the sun would be rising, the filters start sliding back slowly thus allowing it to get brighter and brighter. When we first moved into Telos we experimented with leaving it bright all the time, and again, as I said, we found out that people function better in cycles.

Some people like to sleep when it's dimmer and work when it's bright. Other people, like the night owls that prefer to work or play when it's dim and sleep when it's bright. But everyone is allowed to function in the way that is the most comfortable to them.

So everyone comes in and sets their own hours and simply informs, you might say, the foreman of whatever their job is, which hours they're going to be working over the next few day period. And everyone comes in and works basically as long as they wish and then they go and they do whatever else they want to do. But understanding that since we're on a society that if you're too lazy to go work at all in the hydroponic gardens and that's your job, somebody might not have enough food. Or if you didn't feel like designing clothing or creating clothing or furniture and you made no other arrangements for someone else to take up your slack of time, someone else in the city might be going without.

So understanding that method has made people responsible for what hours they work. Understanding that they are doing true service that somebody will appreciate. The only thing that we don't interchange by simply putting in the distribution centers are things like art forms, art objects, massages, things like that. That is done in what we call a barter basis. Those who, for instance, their main talent is art, whether it's drawing, pottery, sculpting, massage. All these different little things that are not part of the whole, not part of, what you might say, necessities, but are necessities to the soul. As I said, these go to the distribution centers in the form of the barter pool. In other words, you walk in and you see a statue that was created by somebody you really want. In exchange for it, you're willing to give ten massages and you're very good at massage. Or you're willing to come and sing.

And the barter pool goes through it with the computers and perhaps the person who made the statue doesn't need a massage but a person who brought in a painting that the person who made the statue wants, wants massages. So it continually, the barter pool switches and curves so that everyone's needs are met. So everyone can come in and exchange energy in some form to receive, you might say, the little pampering things in life. Also within this system, people setting their own hours, it does not become so crystallized that noone has any freedom to come and go at their will, that people can truly set their lives to achieve the best of work, of play, of rest, of meditation, spiritual endeavors, so that everything is met and not at the expense of something else, understanding that spiritual time is just as important as work time.

Which leads us to what could be a problem. What about those jobs that noone wants to do since everyone chooses their jobs, gathering the garbage and dematerializing it, weeding the hydroponic gardens, etc., etc.? This falls under what is called community service and everyone does it. Everyone in the city spends a certain amount of time a month in community service. What this means is this works very well because since everyone does it, noone has to do it that much. Noone has to do full-time the jobs that noone would like to do and go into resentment because of it.

Instead, if everyone does a certain amount of community service it means that you might only spend four hours of community service a month. And since it becomes a project that you only do once a month, it actually becomes fun. And when people are on groups of community service they start singing and playing and having a good time. But it's something that noone even tries to get out of it. You can be in community service, a real good one is picking up, to put bluntly, secretions from the animals down in some of the nature areas where it starts getting really bad.

This could put someone in real resentment while you're shoveling elephant you know what. But if the person in the hydroponic gardens is doing it right along side, for instance, someone on the Council of Twelve, it's a thing that becomes not resentful but fun and it's something that people truly get a sense that there is no better than and no less than in the job situation, that a farmer, or someone who works in the hydroponic gardens is not less than someone who is on the Council of Twelve. They both just have different jobs and both jobs are equally important for a city to run properly. So therefore people immediately have the feeling of being good enough. And as I said things like community service brings all the different levels of service together and creates a true camaraderie.

Which goes into perhaps one of the more interesting aspects to our personal relationships. In Telos we have two forms of marriage. We have a bond marriage and we have a sacred marriage. A bond marriage is when two beings decide that they've got something with each other and they want to explore it greater. Then in front of a priest or priestess and a bunch of their friends, they commit themselves to a bond marriage which means that they're saying "We've got something, we realize we really care for each other and we'd like to see where it's going." So in essense it is a form of a marriage because it has the commitments for as long as you choose the bond marriage to last. And then if you decide "Oh well it was just a passing thing or it's not something that's going to work," you simply stand in front of a priest or priestess again and simply explain that it didn't work and there's no stigma on it. Some people can have several bond marriages at once. There's also no stigma on that.

One thing that you do not do in a bond marriage is you do not have children. That is saved for a sacred marriage. In a sacred marriage is when you have decided "Ok we have something." Then you have a large marriage, usually a beautiful wedding. All your bond marriages are dissolved and you go into a sacred marriage where you are then allowed to have children. Children is something that people need to be trained for, that need to be taken as a serious responsibility. Some people might be in a bond marriage two, three hundred years before they take a sacred marriage. Someone else who's with their soul mate or twin flame may go into a sacred marraige two months after they were in their bond marriage. It's all different, but again it's always a matter of having choice. It's always a matter of having respect for each other.

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

gnak, you have posted a #### load of info. If I begin, I donno if I will ever finish.

Can you, please, concisely summarize the two pages of information which you have posted? The first bit seems interesting, and I will check it out. But the rest.. you should explain. Maybe I will end up following the whole thread.

Thanks.

In my historical oracle
I blast metaphorical
editorials educated
in my territorial
get torn
heavily armed with seventy bombs
that'll blast divine like the heavenly song
Your men'll be gone
if they explore my deepest thoughts
I beat hearts in two then ask demons for chalk

gnak, you have posted a #### load of info. If I begin, I donno if I will ever finish.

Can you, please, concisely summarize the two pages of information which you have posted? The first bit seems interesting, and I will check it out. But the rest.. you should explain. Maybe I will end up following the whole thread.

Thanks.

its basically about aliens and their interactions with the government of usa, also deals and relates to alot of other conspiracies including illuminati new world order, 9/11, lost continents of altantis and lemuria, montauk project, human bases on mars and lunar and more

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

gnak if ufo are gods why they concentrate their effort only on USA why they ignore the rest of the world? Why in islam there is a unique GOD, why we don t have fire chariots like in christianity? So my brother you have to read Quran, in Quran GOD says us that there are jinns (spicies with great abilities) all over us but we cannot saw them because they are in an another dimension and these jinns try to approach the last level of dimension but they can t because it s defended by fire and great projectiles. So you have to recon that christianity is not the religion of the whole world, we in islam have some explanations about these phenamenons. But we don t say this is ufos, we say they are another sort of terresterial inhabitants. We can not explain their evolution but we know that human are not alone. For the rest only the LORD know about.

gnak if ufo are gods why they concentrate their effort only on USA why they ignore the rest of the world? Why in islam there is a unique GOD, why we don t have fire chariots like in christianity?

i never said ufo's r god. the doco i posted is about the bible and ufos and how certain stories in the bible could be described as contact with ETs. about your question why aliens concentrate on usa. thats because america during Eisenhower presidency signed a treaty with a particular species of aliens known as greys in exchange for advance technology what aliens get in return is they get to abduct ppl in the usa and they get to live there in the deep underground military bases.

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So my brother you have to read Quran, in Quran GOD says us that there are jinns (spicies with great abilities) all over us but we cannot saw them because they are in an another dimension and these jinns try to approach the last level of dimension but they can t because it s defended by fire and great projectiles. So you have to recon that christianity is not the religion of the whole world, we in islam have some explanations about these phenamenons. But we don t say this is ufos, we say they are another sort of terresterial inhabitants. We can not explain their evolution but we know that human are not alone. For the rest only the LORD know about.

no i haven't read the koran before. i see u mentions jinns i heard of them before and thought they were the muslim equivalent of devils/demons. u mentions how jinns are all over us but u cant see them because their in another dimension, that sounds alot like 4th dimension reptilians

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For the rest only the LORD know about

believe it or not aliens do believe in a universal singular prime creator or god but they don't worship it like us. they follow the spiritual path to god we follow the religious path to god.

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

Ok i know what you mean. You have to know that jinss are not devils, jinns are another inhabitants of earth. Among them there are muslims, christians, jews etc. The illustration you posted look like a tv drama "V", you know it? If our great leaders are reptilians so you mean Pakistani president Musharraf is a reptilian too?

If our great leaders are reptilians so you mean Pakistani president Musharraf is a reptilian too?

no ppl cant physically be or turn into a reptilian, however reptilians do have the ability to possess ppl as demonstrated in the bottom drawing of the picturelastly no i dont think musharraf is reptilian or possessed by one

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"

I certify that the following text is the absolute truth and no work of fiction. These are parts of a transcript of an interview I've made with a non-human and reptilian being in December 1999. This female being was already in contact with a friend of mine (whose name is given only with the abbreviation E.F. in the text) since some months. Let me declare, that I was all my life a sceptic about UFOs, aliens and other weird things and I thought that E.F. tells me just dreams or fictionous stories when he talked with me about his first contacts with the non-human being "Lacerta". I was still a sceptic when I met this being on December 16 last year (1999) in that small warm room in the remote house of my friend near to a town in the south of Sweden, despite the fact that I saw now with my own eyes that she was not human. She has told and shown me so many unbelievable things during that meeting that I can't deny the reality and the truth of her words any longer. This is not another of that wrong UFO papers which claim to tell the truth but tell in fact just fiction, I'm convinced that this transcript contains the only truth and therefore you should read it.

I had talked with her for over 3 hours, so the following transcript shows you only shortened parts of the interview, because she asked me after the interview not to publish everything she had told me already now. The order of the questions in this transcript is not always the same order in which I had asked them, so it may seem sometimes a little bit confusing to you. It was not easy to delete all the important parts she had asked me to delete from the transcript, so I apologise for the maybe unusual order. I'm in the possession of the entire transcript of the interview (49 pages with some of my drawings of her body and her equipment) and also of some tapes on which I have the full interview, but I will not reveal this before I have permission from her. I will send this shortened form of the still fascinating document to four of my reliable friends to Finland, Norway, Germany and France and I hope they will translate it into their own languages and into other languages and I hope as many people as possible will be able to read and to understand the transcript. If you receive it, please send it to all your friends via e-mail or make print-outs and copy them.

I certify furthermore, that various "paranormal" abilities of her species like telepathy and telekinesis (including the moving and dancing of my pencil on the table without touching and the flying of an apple around 40 centimetres over her hands) were shown to me during the 3 hours and 6 minutes of the meeting and I'm absolutely sure that these abilities were no tricks. The following is certainly difficult to understand and to believe for someone who hasn't experienced it, but I was really in contact with her mind and I'm now completely sure that everything she said during the interview is the absolute truth about our world.

Unfortunately, if I read the entire transcript and (much more) this very shortened form by myself I have the strong impression, that everything I've written sounds too unbelievable to be true, that everything sounds more like a bad science fiction story from TV or cinema and I have doubts that anyone will believe my experiences. But they are true, if you believe it or not. I can't expect from you that you believe my simple words without evidence, but I can't give you that evidence. Please read the transcript and think about it and you will maybe see the truth in this words.

There will be a new meeting between me and her (again in the same house in Sweden) on April 23, 2000 and she promised me to give me maybe some evidence of her existence. In the meantime I collect questions which I will ask her then. Maybe she gives me permission to reveal more of the missing parts in that transcript and about the coming war.

I once again reaffirm that the following text is the absolute truth and is not fiction. It was composed from three original tape recordings which were made on April 24, 2000 with a tape recorder during my second interview with the reptilian creature known as "Lacerta". At Lacerta's request, the original text of 31 pages was revised and shortened up to deal with some questions and answers. Some existing questions were partially shortened or amended. It was even undertaken to extract message and significance from it. This part of the interview, either not mentioned or not mentioned completely in the transcript, deals primarily with personal issues, paranormal demonstrations, the social system of the reptilian species and alien technology and physics.

The reason for the shifting of the date and time of the second meeting was a possible observation and surveillance of my own person after the publication of the first transcript. Although everything was attempted on the advice of Lacerta to keep my identity a secret, just two days after the dissemination of the document abroad, various unusual events took place. Please don't think that I am paranoid; however, I believe that the publication of the interview has drawn either official attention or the attention of some organization to me. Up until this time, I usually regarded people who believed that they were being followed by the state to be nothing more than jokers. But now I have begun to revise my ideas on that since events in January. It began with a failure of my telephone for several hours. When the phone became operational once again, there were quiet echoes and strange clicking and whirring sounds when I made calls. A defect could (ostensibly) not be found anywhere. Overnight, important data disappeared from the hard drive in my computer. The testing program reported "defective sectors" where strangely enough there were only data which dealt with illustrations and completed textual material from the interview. These "defective sectors" also contained material of a paranormal nature in the field of my research. (Fortunately, the material was also stored on floppies.) In addition I discovered by pure chance some hidden data in a likewise hidden directory index. The name which appeared on the data and the directory index was "E72UJ." A friend, who is a computer expert, could not make anything of this designation, and when I was about to show it to him, the directory index had disappeared. One evening, my apartment door was standing wide open, my TV set was runningóand I am absolutely confident that I had turned the TV set off.

A minivan with British markings and the imprint of a Europe-wide supermarket chain parked in front of my house. I noticed the same minivan again on several occasions traveling at a distance behind my car, even when I visited the town of ...... 65 kilometers away. When I returned, the car was on the other side of the street once again. I never saw anyone get into or out of the car. A knock on the door of the vehicle and on the tinted windows caused no reaction of any kind. After about two weeks, the minivan disappeared again. When I informed E.F. personally about these events, he suggested that I change the place and date of the meeting in order to assure our own and Lacerta's safety. The meeting took place on April 27, 2000 in another isolated location. It was unobserved as far as I can determine.

Once again, all of this may sound strange and paranoid, like a fantasy from a cheap science fiction film; however, I can only repeat to and assure the reader once again: all of this is the unadulterated truth. Believe my words or don't believe them. These things have happened and they will continue to happen, whether you believe it or not. Until it is too late. Our civilization is in danger.

Essentially, the souls of people IS the issue involved that is of greatest urgency to the Galactic Command or Confederation, for this saving of the souls is that which the spiritual forces perceives to be the real purpose and value. The physical body is temporal anyway, and has only a short time on earth, but the soul being permanent, being more or less eternal, is the more important concern. The Draconian and the Orion forces think that by making it appear the soul is just an illusion and that one's body is what counts, they find themselves able to influence people by fear and by coercion, based on bodily needs and preservation. And in this manner they actually capture the souls of entities who are trying to preserve their body and will do so at the cost of their soul"