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Topic: "I don't believe in destiny." (Read 10016 times)

A burning question I have from rewatching this episode. When Jack and Locke are having their "Man of science / Man of faith" discussion Jack says "I don't believe in destiny." to which Locke replies "Yes you do Jack. You just don't know it yet.". Is this guy the man or what? How did he know then that Jack would come around and be who we know him as now at the end of season 5? Did he know?

Yes, I am trying to remember (sorry my mind is in over drive on other things) if that episode was before Locke was shown the beauty of the island through Smokey before this or after.

I ask because if it was before perhaps he was given insight all along. I just remember Rose and John sitting on the beach complacent as if they were given the sweet mystery of life. Which they were as their bodies were healed.

A burning question I have from rewatching this episode. When Jack and Locke are having their "Man of science / Man of faith" discussion Jack says "I don't believe in destiny." to which Locke replies "Yes you do Jack. You just don't know it yet.". Is this guy the man or what? How did he know then that Jack would come around and be who we know him as now at the end of season 5? Did he know?

He may have been the man in predicting Jack's change of heart, but he did not see his own demise. Locke thought he was the man of destiny and it turned out his destiny was to die and become the "loop hole" that killed Jacob. Not a great destiny for this man of vision.

Yeah. But hyper mentioned something in another thread (forget which) about how we are thinking these changes are writing mistakes but they could actually be caused by the actions of the losties in the past. No alternate timeline, just a few things are different. I like that idea.