Peruvian National Police Acquire 30,000 Beretta Px4 Storm Pistols

The Peruvian Ministry of the Interior has acquired 30,000 Beretta Px4 Storm pistols, chambered in 9mm, for use by the Peruvian National Police force. Army Recognition reports …

The Peruvian Ministry of the Interior (MININTER) – via its Logistics Division – is preparing to begin the process of acquiring 30,000 9mm pistols for the Peruvian National Police, to which was added, as told by the Peruvian Minister of Interior, Daniel Urresti, a supply agreement with Factory Arms and Ammunition (FAME) for permanently acquiring ammunition.

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Joshua

Severely underrated handgun. I have had one for the last 4 years and have a little over 10,000 rounds through mine and it has yet to have any issues.

I have found though that grease is the key to keeping the locking block and barrel rotating smoothly, sometimes crappy oil will dry up and you can have issues so a good grease(I use Slip2000 EWG) is key on that one part.

kingghidorah

10k rounds? Through a Storm? Do you own an ammo dump?

Joshua

10,000 rounds over 4 years really is not a huge amount. I know instructors who are civilians now who shoot that in a year.

kingghidorah

Sure, I guess, if that’s all you do. At these prices and scarcity, that’s a lot of $ for the average Joe.

Komrad

that’s just going out to the range twice a month and shooting 100 rounds
what, maybe $20 a month for 4 years?

Joshua

Not really, it comes out to around 208 rounds a month every month for 4 years.

It only costs around $50 a month.

n0truscotsman

The few that I have seen in classes have worked flawlessly. I hate the safeties, but the handguns themselves work just fine.

Andy

The Storm is a great gun mechanically, but they made the sides of the grip way too slick.

SD3

No CX4s in the package deal?

Victor

Expect a large influx of these guns flowing into the South American firearms blackmarket.

Chase Buchanan

I use a Px4 Storm in 9mm. Now I feel validated! Yay!

USMC03Vet

Incoming crack down on Peruvian flute bands?

worldwideREB

haha classic

john huscio

Still not a slide mounted safety fan…..

SM

That’s one of the reasons I went with a CZ P07 instead of the PX4 compact.

Rusty Shackleford

Who is? Beretta engineers, apparently.

Man pippy

The illusion of safety is seductive.

Chase Buchanan

I only use it as a decocker. If I wanted, I could order a few parts and convert it to decocker-only, but I don’t find it necessary.

Azril @ Alex Vostox

Royal Malaysian Police already used this pistol to supplement the general–issued Walther P99

TFB Reader

I tried one a while back, and the grip felt really “round” to me (curved and wide from left to right). Maybe it was my relatively small hands, but I just couldn’t hold on to it.

Chase Buchanan

The Px4 has interchangable backstraps for the grip. I use the large one because my trigger finger is long. Maybe you need the small one.

roadsterjosh

I have the DAO model, and have never had an issue either. I am not a fan of safeties, slide or frame mounted, on my carry weapon. I have roughly 5000 rounds through mine, and several classes that lead me to trust mine without question.
Though with the cost of glock through departmental purchase this does seem like an unlikely choice.

Lance

Beretta pistols win again. Hay cant beat one of the best gun makers in history. I see many world PDs as well as American PDs use M-92FS still as well, LAPD, Minneapolis, SFPD …..

Actually LAPD has SIG, Glock and some S&W on the approved list. 40 Caliber Glocks are issued to new recruits.

Lance

They also use M-92FSs.

Anonymoose

It’s “92FS.” There is no “M-” except in 1990s video game manuals, Snake.

Evan Jay

Most officers carry a Glock 22 especially newer officers (issued), with most of the more veteran officers carrying Beretta 92fs, or the older S&W autos. Glock 21s are also used by some. I believe the entire K-9 platoon carries the G21sf. Metro (SWAT,SIS, and mounted police generally carry Kimber 1911s.

MIke H

No, this Sig lover isn’t. I love my Sigs, but Berettas are good guns. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging that.

Anonymoose

Nah. I’d take a 92FS over a Glock or any Eastern European handgun, any day.

SP mclaughlin

Uhh, whats the difference between the Steyr M9A1 and L9A1?

Anonymoose

L9A1 is a half inch longer. Think of it as a Glock 17 vs a Glock 34.

Man pippy

Surely there must be a cheaper pistol with safety?

john huscio

Px4s are generally pretty cheap. (At least in the US)

Joshua

A PX4 can be had for $425 on the civilian market here in the US.

idahoguy101

Doesn’t the Canadian Border Police use the same pistol?

john huscio

The canucks seem to have a lot of horror stories regarding the px4…….locked back slides that need mallets to get them back into battery n such…

Steven Alexander

The PX4 has become the gun that people who are really pissed at Beretta
for no longer making the 92G, Elite II and 92G-SD, like to use as an
example of everything that is wrong with Beretta. Without suggesting the
gun is perfect, and that the PX4 introduction was perfect, almost
everyone I encounter who has one, and can report round counts through
them is happy. When you ask people who dislike them, how long they have
owned one, and what their problems were, inevitably you hear they have
never owned one but heard about how bad they are.

Then there are examples of certain agencies “dumping the Beretta.” As to
the gun being “dumped,” keep in mind that EVERY time an agency gets a
new gun, they are DUMPING something they have. I assume Glock, Sig,
S&W and other manufacturers have a primary goal with their LE sales
efforts to displace their competitors, and try to influence civilian
sales with these “victories.” Determining why an agency switches is
usually more complicated than reading the announcement press release.
Yet, somehow when an agency switches from the Beretta it is viewed worse
than switching to or from a Glock, M&P or Sig?

Then there is the mallet story and the rap on the PX4 is it needs to be
lubricated. Anyone that owns a 92 and tries to run it dry, will quickly
realize it also has a “lubrication problem” if they think it can be run
dry as a Glock. The mallet seemed to have become nearly an urban myth,
although folks say that even if locked up tight the slide can be removed
without a hammer. As to a police officer getting frustrated and taking a
hammer to their pistol — shocked face.

This oft-repeated and seldom substantiated rumor is based on a sliver of
truth that has been distorted and amplified in the retelling. The
sliver of truth comes from an anecdote about the Canadian Border Patrol
taking a class from Todd Green. The officers, according to the story,
had to keep mallets handy in case their PX4 barrel seized up and they
needed to remove the slide to remedy the situation.

In Korea in the 70’s the local firearms instructors had mallets for the
firearms of those who did not follow proper winter lubrication
procedures. The cold Korean winter weather would cause improper
lubricants to stiffen so that the firearm became inoperable. Many of the
weapons were M1 Carbines issued to the Korean soldiers pulling guard
duties. The mallet often got them working right if they locked up due to
frozen lube. M1911A1s could also get iced up going in and out of heated
buildings during the Korean winter. The armorers kept a mallet handy to
break the ice during turn in procedures.

In the case of the Canadian Border Patrol Px4’s, the type of issued
lubrication and the cold Canadian weather sometimes induced lockups
(read as the lube froze) where a quick hit with the mallet allowed for
the weapon to be cleared.

In this rumor, as in most, there is an underlying element of truth that somehow gets blown into a maelstrom of disinformation.

idahoguy101

There is no perfect handgun. If the PX4 hasn’t worked out then Canada can trade them back to Beretta for the model 92. Or do what their military and RCMP uses, SIG pistols…

dp

Encouraging to see rotating barrel guns coming back into fashion. I genuinely like them for their ‘gun-like’ e.i. bolt-action, straight line barrel characters. Yes, they need good lube, true. Although ‘flappers'(Browning action) is more widespread, this is the gun for me.

Brian

I have multiple PX4s that were used in tactical classes & competitions. Latest one is a Type G, no safety. First one still runs fine, with no degradation in performance after 27,000 rounds, with only the recoil spring change.

nagurski

Quick Beretta rant: Has anybody ever said “you know what I want, a slide mounted safety”? You know its bad when I prefer the Taurus version of your gun to the original.