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Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon

Many local elections for everything from mayor to governor are within a few hundred votes , sometimes even less.

And those elections are scrutinized thoroughly by both parties involved. Our system already provides a procedure to discover voter fraud. No need for any unnecessary hurdles. Voting should be made easier.

"When ignorant folks want to advertise their ignorance, you really don't have to do anything, you just let them talk." - Barack Obama

Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

Originally Posted by taxigirl

It is not necessarily just racist. There are plenty of older folks who do not have birth certificates and cannot afford the expense of getting one and certificates are usually a requirement to get other ID. Many people who are poor, cannot get ID, etc...

This is BS. I am about as poor as you can get outside of living on the streets and I still have a DL. And I don't know of a single old person that cannot get transportation to get an ID or to vote unless they are infirm, and even then there are options available for them.

I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. ~ Kal'Stang

Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

Originally Posted by apdst

One that lives by a double standard is a hypocrite.

Are we taking turns reading out of the dictionary or do you have a point?

You see apdst, I do not have a position on your area of inquiry. I thought I made that clear. I do not have a position on many things. I probably do not have a position on more things than I do actually care about enough to formulate a position. I suspect most smart people are the same.

Unless one is a uninformed fool. Then one has a position on everything. That is one way to tell. The other is the drool.

Last edited by haymarket; 02-25-12 at 06:35 PM.

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Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

Originally Posted by AdamT

Voter fraud is a non-issue in this country. It's as common as hens teeth. So why put millions of people to unnecessary trouble?

As there are standards as to who is and is not eligible to vote, there should be standards applied to ENSURE that only eligible people vote. I don't think proving who you are is too much to ask. People have YEARS between presidential elections to make sure they have the proper ID. In many states, not having state issued ID is illegal- you can't even walk down the street in some states without an ID. Why should you be able to vote?

Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

Florida has an ID law. Can someone that is saying that it is denying vast majority of poor and elderly to vote, please provide some statistics that support that case. Florida is loaded with elderly. If that case were true I'm sure that there would be somebody they would have a study that shows it..... please provide a link

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Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

Originally Posted by kamikaze483

Why should you be able to vote?

Because it is the very essence of living in a representative democracy.

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There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.... John Rogers