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loving my warm and comfy 214 blanket

- hawk Pilot

"Turning Navy/Marine Corps helicopter pilot training over to the Army creates certain challenges given that each service operates differently, but this would still be a better solution than trying to maintain the Navy’s current creaky, inefficient and even dangerous system."

Former H-46 Driver

You have to wonder what the fuck the Helo senior leaders are doing and why HT's get ignored year after year and the snails pace of innovation. Why doesnt this come up at NHA Flag panels?

I agree with the author that a modern medium/light twin is teh way to go for the HT's - for our student profile who accesses from the T-6. For years the HT syllabus was too rudimentry.

I hope it goes revolutionary - would be a huge benefit to the service.

Interesting and I had heard this from another GE source, that Sikorsky is pitching a basic UH-60 variant for primary training. Not without precedent! Good on them. Time for teh dinasaurs at NAVAIR to wake the fuck up

loving my warm and comfy 214 blanket

Well, there is the argument that they're not going to get anything better than a tacan approach in the R, and ILS in the S. Technically the 57C is more advanced in that regards. . . Whether you're looking at a six pack or glass doesn't really seem to be a big deal to me. I'd just be more concerned about the airframe itself.

Robot Pimp

I don't think the aging of the HT's has been ignored; the Navy has just done what it always does and kicked the can down the road one FY at a time. As with other programs, eventually we'll back ourselves into a corner and be forced to choose the least bad option.

D-FENS

I don't think the aging of the HT's has been ignored; the Navy has just done what it always does and kicked the can down the road one FY at a time. As with other programs, eventually we'll back ourselves into a corner and be forced to choose the least bad option.

Well, there is the argument that they're not going to get anything better than a tacan approach in the R, and ILS in the S. Technically the 57C is more advanced in that regards. . . Whether you're looking at a six pack or glass doesn't really seem to be a big deal to me. I'd just be more concerned about the airframe itself.

Robot Pimp

The overall problem has been identified for years, and now it's being publicly squawked about at the GO/FO - DC level: as long as the Budget Control Act is in place, we don't have the money to fix our immediate, show-stopping problems (e.g., Marine legacy Hornets), let alone get ahead of problems on the horizon, like aging trainers. We're doing the equivalent of skipping mortgage payments in order to keep the lights and water on.

Cold War Relic

Interesting and I had heard this from another GE source, that Sikorsky is pitching a basic UH-60 variant for primary training. Not without precedent! Good on them. Time for teh dinasaurs at NAVAIR to wake the fuck up

"Turning Navy/Marine Corps helicopter pilot training over to the Army creates certain challenges given that each service operates differently, but this would still be a better solution than trying to maintain the Navy’s current creaky, inefficient and even dangerous system."

NO. Very few of the helicopters there are IFR capable. Moreover, they do not have enough helicopters. Finally, the majority of their birds are piston-engined. We are supposed to be going forward in technology, not backwards.

Well, there is the argument that they're not going to get anything better than a tacan approach in the R, and ILS in the S. Technically the 57C is more advanced in that regards. . . Whether you're looking at a six pack or glass doesn't really seem to be a big deal to me. I'd just be more concerned about the airframe itself.

Needs to be glass. Negative training for SNA's to go from glass cockpit T-6 to a steam gauge helo trainer back to a glass cockpit fleet aircraft. Also needs to be GPS/WAAS compatible with the ability to do coupled (preferably 4-axis) LPV's.

Former H-46 Driver

Ok Mr. @Randy Daytona - so what next then? Army is all in on UH-72/EC145v for ab-initio training. Air Force is doing T-6 to TH-1H (Huey II, glass cockpit) - how soon before Undersecretary Smith pitches consolidation. Marine Corps and USCG could care less who trains - leaving Big Navy to fight this one on their own.