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Fri, 24 Aug 2012 18:40:08 +0000http://www.deliberation.info/?p=19220#comment-14997Excellent point who_me.
]]>By: Blakehttp://www.deliberation.info/message-to-dnc-and-zionists-of-america-from-an-american-patriot/#comment-14996
Fri, 24 Aug 2012 18:39:24 +0000http://www.deliberation.info/?p=19220#comment-14996Precisely Eileen. What’s the difference between a Zionist, an Islamic Jihadist and a Fundamental Christian? Not much, apparently.
]]>By: who_mehttp://www.deliberation.info/message-to-dnc-and-zionists-of-america-from-an-american-patriot/#comment-14979
Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:39:52 +0000http://www.deliberation.info/?p=19220#comment-14979without jewish backing and management, the christian zionists would not have expanded during the 70’s on. at that time, the people of the usa were becoming more secular and agnostic, like people in europe were becoming. it was a massive jewish run marketing campaign that rejuvenated (rejewvinated? 😉 ) this israel promoting sect. this was mainly done to bring the rightwing part of the american population under stricter zionist control. they already owned the liberals, and had subverted the left into virtual nothingness, but significant portions of the american right were still anti-zionist or neutral to these parasites. using religion is one of the oldest tricks on the books for use in manipulating people.
]]>By: Eileen Fleminghttp://www.deliberation.info/message-to-dnc-and-zionists-of-america-from-an-american-patriot/#comment-14972
Thu, 23 Aug 2012 11:24:44 +0000http://www.deliberation.info/?p=19220#comment-14972The Scofield Bible is THE BIBLE of Christian Zionist Fundamentalists.

Fundamentalism runs through every religion and a fundamentalist is one so attached to their POV they do NOT even THINK!

The Religious Right, Zionism, the Neo-conservative ideology of empire building and Post 9/11 fear have been the perfect match for the flourishing of the heresy of Christian Zionism.

“Briefly stated, Christian Zionism is a movement within Protestant fundamentalism that understands the modern state of the country-region Israel as the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy and thus deserving of political, financial, and religious support. Christian Zionists work closely with the Israeli government, religious and secular Jewish Zionist organizations, and are particularly empowered during periods when the more conservative Likud Party is in control of the Knesset. Both the secular and religious media place Christian Zionists within the larger Protestant evangelical movement, which claims upwards of 100-125 million supporters in the United States. To be more precise, Christian Zionism should be placed within the fundamentalist wing of Protestant Christianity, as the evangelical movement is far large and more diverse in its theology and historical development.” http://www.christianzionism.org/articles/Wagner02.html

While fundamentalists number less than 25% of Evangelicals, the 19th century invention of the rapture has gone mainstream and today 59% of Christians believe the rapture will be an actual historical fact.

“The Late Great Planet Earth” and the “Left Behind” series both espouse the “meta-narrative” and Myth of Redemptive Violence. These neo-con, neo-Christians epitomize the spirit of the anti-Christ with their belief and passion that evil can be over come by violent force. This is absolutely contrary to the gospel Christ preached and modeled with his life: who remained nonviolent even while being mocked, whipped and nailed to a cross.

During the 1970’s, the emergence of the Christian Rights political activism was warmly embraced by President Regan who spoke about Armageddon on six public occasions and who hosted AIPAC and the Christian Right at annual White House dinners.

Post 9/11, the convergence among the neo-conservative ideology of empire building, the Pro-Israeli Lobby, Christian fundamentalism and Israeli political leaders who have blatantly defied International Law and ignored the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights have brought us to this crossroads in time.

While most mainline Churches and progressive Christians consider Christian Zionism irrelevant or ridiculous, these anti-Christ fundamentalist’s are a well organized well funded force that demonize Muslims, are inherently anti-Semitic, who ignore the indigenous people of the Holy Land’s right to self determination and human rights. They are not just miss-reading scripture, they also justify empire building, apartheid, colonialism, and oppression and relegate God to the role of real estate broker.

When the disciples asked Jesus if he was going to restore the kingdom of Israel, JC replied: You are not to know the times nor seasons; you are to be my Witness’s in the world and live the Gospel of love, compassion and forgiveness. JC also promised that it is the Peacemakers who are the children of God.

Yes we hear oppressed over and over, but we never hear who was oppressor of those oppressed. Because, oppressors were same Christians, “Democratic West”, who are now “repenting” their crimes by helping oppressed oppress third party. This is just another sad story of a mad dog biting helping hand which has been saving his life for more then millennium, after owner tried once more to strangle it with a leash.

When “Democratic West” again decides that it is time to euthanize mad dog Muslims should ask UN to help mad dog, and vote another useless resolution.

]]>By: Eileen Fleminghttp://www.deliberation.info/message-to-dnc-and-zionists-of-america-from-an-american-patriot/#comment-14921
Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:44:13 +0000http://www.deliberation.info/?p=19220#comment-14921What needs to happen is for Americans to learn WHY USA policy regarding the Middle East became aligned with Christian Zionism and the turning point happened on June 8, 1967 when the LBJ Administration FAILED to support the troops aboard the USS LIBERTY who were brutally attacked by Israel while navigating in International waters during the 6 Day War.

The attack on the USS Liberty remains “the only incident of damage to a major US ship since the sinking of the USS MAINE in Havana Harbour in 1898, prior to the Spanish-American War, that has not been investigated by the US Congress.”

“The attack was the easy part; the aftermath in not being able to get our government to address this cover up has been the bastard.”-Gary Brummett, USS LIBERTY survivor.

“I was here for the first convention 27 years ago and I still have a fire in my belly for the civil and human rights of Arabs. It is time to speak openly and honestly about Israel. But, in American politics, that is still forbidden.

“Pity that we cannot seem to shed our fear of Israel! We are afraid to speak out on Capitol Hill, for fear of losing the next election. They are more like trained poodles jumping through hoops than leaders!

“Why this fear? How did we get here?

“Forty years ago to this day, June 8, 1967 the change occurred, the floodgates opened and money poured into Israel as never before. When President Johnson heard about the U.S.S. Liberty being attacked by Israel he ordered the rescue fighter planes to return to the deck. The rescue mission was aborted and the survivors have said they heard LBJ’s voice tell Admiral Giess, ‘Get those planes back on deck. I don’t care if the ship sinks, I will not embarrass Israel.’

“LBJ also threatened to court martial anyone who reported what had happened. Johnson accepted Israel’s false claim of “mistaken identity” and he knew it was a lie. That is when the change began and Israel learned they could get away with murdering U.S.A. soldiers.”

Seems to me that it is a form of cognitive dissonance that blinds Zionists–both Jewish and Christian–to the fact that the once oppressed have become the oppressors–and there is NOTHING intrinsically Jewish or Christian about TRUE Judaism or Christianity!

]]>By: who_mehttp://www.deliberation.info/message-to-dnc-and-zionists-of-america-from-an-american-patriot/#comment-14907
Wed, 22 Aug 2012 07:02:26 +0000http://www.deliberation.info/?p=19220#comment-14907what would happen if the usa severed all ties to israel and then began investigating, and prosecuting, israel’s sayanim in the usa?
]]>By: Blakehttp://www.deliberation.info/message-to-dnc-and-zionists-of-america-from-an-american-patriot/#comment-14904
Wed, 22 Aug 2012 04:00:33 +0000http://www.deliberation.info/?p=19220#comment-14904They will just not own up to their blatant crimes against humanity. It is obvious to anyone but a zionist it is apartheid.

There are 2 sets of laws inside “Israel”, one for jews & one for native Palestinians (exactly whats going on in occupied territories where there is Israeli civil law for settlers & martial law for Palestinians).

There are more than 30 laws that discriminate against Palestinian citizens of Israel. directly or indirectly, based solely on their ethnicity, rendering them second or third class citizens in their own homeland.