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I dont know. Every team he's on is good with him and crap without him. If I had a vote it'd be for Manning. Rodgers and Brady will always be in the discussion but I think their respective teams would be successful without them. If Minnesota had a better record I'd say it should be AP. I'm not sure there is a player more valuable to his team.

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
—Arthur Schopenhauer (German philosopher, 1788-1860)

I don't know. Every team he's on is good with him and crap without him. If I had a vote it'd be for Manning. Rodgers and Brady will always be in the discussion but I think their respective teams would be successful without them. If Minnesota had a better record I'd say it should be AP. I'm not sure there is a player more valuable to his team.

Huh? Colts look pretty good without him right now. Imagine if they kept Clark, Saturday, and Garcon....

The Broncos won a playoff game with Tebow, their running game and amazing defense last year. Then they lost to Brady and the Pats just like Manning did.

I dont know. Every team he's on is good with him and crap without him. If I had a vote it'd be for Manning. Rodgers and Brady will always be in the discussion but I think their respective teams would be successful without them. If Minnesota had a better record I'd say it should be AP. I'm not sure there is a player more valuable to his team.

Yeah this doesn't make sense, I think it'll be a very close vote between Rodgers, Manning, and Brady. It should be AP but that's just me. Anyways, Peyton Manning's team won a playoff game against the Steelers with Tim Tebow as the quarterback.

Here's my serious point. Too much of it being Peyton Manning and Peyton Manning's story is playing into this. IMO.

He has a very good right to winning, I just wonder how much of it is beyond the football and is more the hype, the legend, and the story.

Only if he deserves it. I dont want it handed to him. He has to go into the Baltimore and win next week and win out without any drop off. If not then its more about the story and non football stuff. I want to feel pride a Bronco won it only if he earned it.

PS at least you dont take me to serious like most. I'm not the azz some think I am.

Only if he deserves it. I dont want it handed to him. He has to go into the Baltimore and win next week and win out without any drop off. If not then its more about the story and non football stuff. I want to feel pride a Bronco won it only if he earned it.

PS at least you dont take me to serious like most. I'm not the azz some think I am.

Yep amazingly ranked 20th. Tebow had more to do with it than Tebow haters like to admit.

There's more to sports than X's and O's, 40 times, and fancy stats.

People don't want to believe that though. They think the NFL works the same as a video game.

Things like the Tebow phenomenon are part of the reason people like Colin Cowherd do so well against the spread. He looks past the most obvious things like just straight matchups and records and sees it from a more psychological side. Even when I don't think he knows the teams half as well as he thinks he does. It still works because of his outlook.

People don't want to believe that though. They think the NFL works the same as a video game.

Things like the Tebow phenomenon are part of the reason people like Colin Cowherd do so well against the spread. He looks past the most obvious things like just straight matchups and records and sees it from a more psychological side. Even when I don't think he knows the teams half as well as he thinks he does. It still works because of his outlook.

I gave up trying to convince people. Yes Tebow had a huge odd impact but it was never going to be enough to get by a three time SB champ on a mission. Just like last night showed. If you tell BB and Brady such and such team is better or unbeatable they go out to prove you wrong. I loved last year and honestly I am loving this year. I love that Manning is here doing what he is doing. Is it enough? I dont think so. I still say that three time SB champ is on a mission that is more than the Broncos or any other AFC team can beat.