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A squirrel is a squirrel, not a rat. You guys can devalue them all you want, but they are legal game and should be treated as such.

The OP in my humble, not being there opinion, killed the bear not because it was an immediate threat, but because he was scared it would be a threat in the future. That's breaking the law. Maybe worth it, but it is breaking the law.

A squirrel is a squirrel, not a rat. You guys can devalue them all you want, but they are legal game and should be treated as such.

The OP in my humble, not being there opinion, killed the bear not because it was an immediate threat, but because he was scared it would be a threat in the future. That's breaking the law. Maybe worth it, but it is breaking the law.

Well you must understand that some of the folks on here that still think you are guilty after the court did not convict you are the same ones that would have said "you must be guilty if the court had enough evidence to convict you" if the court had found you guilty. Instead of having the opinion that you are innocent since enough evidence was not found. So bottom line is to a few, you are guilty just by not doing what they say they would have or have not done.

After some lunch and a bit of thought, I guess my point of the question was this: If you are going to kill something and claim self-defense, it's probably best to use a gun. I wasn't trying to say you did the wrong thing or guilty/not guilty. Just questioned the method. A bow is for hunting or target shooting. Most people agree with that. Guns are for hunting, target, and protection. Maybe its just my opinion on the matter, but it would look better in the eyes of those who prosecute. Especially with something like a bear.
And yes, I completely understand protecting one's family. I have a 12ga sitting in the corner near the bed and another near the back door. Buckshot shells are within arms reach of both. The bow is kept out in the garage for practice or hunting.

After some lunch and a bit of thought, I guess my point of the question was this: If you are going to kill something and claim self-defense, it's probably best to use a gun. I wasn't trying to say you did the wrong thing or guilty/not guilty. Just questioned the method. A bow is for hunting or target shooting. Most people agree with that. Guns are for hunting, target, and protection. Maybe its just my opinion on the matter, but it would look better in the eyes of those who prosecute. Especially with something like a bear.
And yes, I completely understand protecting one's family. I have a 12ga sitting in the corner near the bed and another near the back door. Buckshot shells are within arms reach of both. The bow is kept out in the garage for practice or hunting.

We all can look back at this and make comments.... FACT IS.... I wanted it DEAD and thought about the PRO and CON's many times before this happened, I knew I was going to get charged BUT I DIDNT CARE... MY FAMILY IS MORE IMPORTANT AND I WOULD DO IT AGAIN IF PUT IN THE SAME SITUATION... ONLY THIS TIME I WOULD CALL NO ONE........

i have noticed in more than one situation the wardens seem to invent senarios to be able to start writing tickets rather than truly seeking the truth of the incident...i'm glad you got off!
if any of you warden lovers trust those people to see your side of the story your a fool! the way they foward their career is by writing tickets, and it seems some will lie or overlook the obvious to empty booklets!

Congrats! You did the right thing as far as I'm concerned...the only mistake you made was calling the authorities. Next time gut shoot the bear, let it die a few miles away and keep quiet about it.

I Will tell you one thing to simply Gut shoot an animal on Purpose to let it suffer is Pathetic,I Have no problem with the killing of the bear but do it humanely and put him down instantly.If i needed to shoot a bear,I Would and i WOULDNT call anybody but i would do it humanely...Letting an Animal suffer on Purpose...Sad

"Inside every one us, there exists a dark side. Most people rise above it, but some are consumed by it. Until there is nothing left, but Pure Evil"........

I Will tell you one thing to simply Gut shoot an animal on Purpose to let it suffer is Pathetic,I Have no problem with the killing of the bear but do it humanely and put him down instantly.If i needed to shoot a bear,I Would and i WOULDNT call anybody but i would do it humanely...Letting an Animal suffer on Purpose...Sad

Grizz , so true man . Plus a wounded bear with a tummy ache could be far more dangerous than just a hungry one.

Glad to hear they found you not guilty. There are people all over the net who just have to say something smart not knowing all the facts. As hard as it is to believe, the news and papers sometimes slant things to look the way they want them to, folks. Plenty of people on here that understand and support what you did. Just try and ignore the stupid comments and look at the positive ones. If you are as into archery as you say you might want to consider hanging out here for a while. Lots of good info and great people in general and the keyboard cowboys at least keep things interesting during the nonhunting seasons, lol.

Why would he call the game comission if he thoguht what he did was illegal?

Because there are people that dang stupid. My brother inlaw which I don't care for ran a deer over in the driveway and it had to be put down and he called them thinking he was going to get to keep it. Same as that idiot that robbed a bank and left his real ID on the counter.

As far as shooting the squirrels over bait, the PA Game Commission actually has a law that states and I quote " You may not hunt on or over any food source, Natural or Artificial". Now, can anyone on here name me one single spot in the entire state of PA where they hunt that could not be considered a "natural food source"????? If you follow that law to a T, then every single field or woodlot in PA is illegal to hunt. It just goes to show you how stupid and vague some of these laws really are. They (the game commission) make sure that if they want to get you, they can get you. Period.

All this talk about using a 12 gauge with slugs or a high powered rifle has me thinking about my neighborhood. The houses are pretty close together, a bullet would be dangerous I think. A bow might have been the best option really.

crock- I already stated that I'm not taking a position on the killing because I don't have all of the facts.
Your quote of my second post infers I sided with someone because "your one".
I'm not a WCO or warden. Your illogical and immature response shows how you categorize all LEO's as bad, over zealous etc.. It speaks volume's about your character.

crock- I already stated that I'm not taking a position on the killing because I don't have all of the facts.
Your quote of my second post infers I sided with someone because "your one".
I'm not a WCO or warden. Your illogical and immature response shows how you categorize all LEO's as bad, over zealous etc.. It speaks volume's about your character.

your right they need more ratings for their tv shows......lets put some micro chips in antlers and then we can go turn someones house upside down because they picked up some bone lying around waiting to be chewed or pissed on by yotes!
went to a golf tornament this week and watch 5 **** faced cops(there were more there, just didn't visually see them leave) get in their cars and drive off like it was nothing...gonna write tickets for the same offence to somebody this week i'm sure!!! don't give a dam what you think my character is, your opinion about it means nothing to me! i call em as i see em! hypocrits!