- Lumintop is working again
- ToyKeeper has summarized all the problems of Proto4
- Neal has forwarded the list to Lumintop
- The emitters have been confirmed again: XP-L HI 3D (~ 4875K) and LH351D 4000K 90CRI
- The optics have been confirmed: Carclo 10511
- ToyKeeper’s 0105 firmware should be used

I’m sending my beamfoot prototype to @ andreas0401 this week. My Beamshotstrecke will be available again in 14 days*

- Lumintop is working again
- ToyKeeper has summarized all the problems of Proto4
- Neal has forwarded the list to Lumintop
- The emitters have been confirmed again: XP-L HI 3D (~ 4875K) and LH351D 4000K 90CRI
- The optics have been confirmed: Carclo 10511
- ToyKeeper’s 0105 firmware should be used

I’m sending my beamfoot prototype to @ andreas0401 this week. My Beamshotstrecke will be available again in 14 days*

Is the summary list of forwarded issues available somewhere in this thread?

Messing around with an idea for a dual-purpose clip thats only possible due to the FW3A’s geometry. Default is a deep carry, with a cap clip on the tailside. The clip goes through itself, having to pull it out to get a cap-bill through. The sketch is exaggerated to make the design obvious. The first bend coming off of the body wouldn’t create a gap between it and the return bend

There is one part I am not familiar with however. It says in the original post that “An unusual feature is the electronic tail switch. This allows the light to do much fancier things than a clicky switch, yet retains the ergonomic benefits of a clicky tail switch.”

What type of extra things does the electronic tail switch allow us to do that a clicky switch wouldn’t?

There is one part I am not familiar with however. It says in the original post that “An unusual feature is the electronic tail switch. This allows the light to do much fancier things than a clicky switch, yet retains the ergonomic benefits of a clicky tail switch.”

What type of extra things does the electronic tail switch allow us to do that a clicky switch wouldn’t?

A mechanical tail switch is on or off and uses “off time” or “on time” to determine the action you are making. An e-switch can have hold functions and utilize single/double/triple/etc.-click operations without the light turning off at all.

If you’ve used any of the Emisar or Fireflies lights, its allows for an updated version of that UI vs something like Bistro or Biscotti where its just taps to do a quick power cycle that also changes modes.

A mechanical tail switch is on or off and uses “off time” or “on time” to determine the action you are making. An e-switch can have hold functions and utilize single/double/triple/etc.-click operations without the light turning off at all.

That sounds very useful. I’m mostly used to dual switch lights, so I didn’t realize single mechanical switch lights would have an issue with turning off when you switch modes.

I’m mostly used to dual switch lights, so I didn’t realize single mechanical switch lights would have an issue with turning off when you switch modes.

Yeah, a mechanical switch physically disconnects power. It literally can’t keep putting out light while the switch is off, because it’s effectively unplugged. The user interacts with it by connecting and disconnecting power, which makes it a little difficult to do anything fancy.

An e-switch works more like clicking a mouse on a computer. It can be up or down, but in both cases the computer keeps running while you press the button.

Stuff like “hold the button to ramp” doesn’t work on a mechanical power-disconnect switch.

Its a balancing act between fitting shorter cells (how they were designed and sold by the original manufacturers) or longer button-top/protected cells. You always sacrifice some fit on one end of the spectrum for more on the other.

Its a balancing act between fitting shorter cells (how they were designed and sold by the original manufacturers) or longer button-top/protected cells. You always sacrifice some fit on one end of the spectrum for more on the other.

I would not group button top together with protected. A button top only adds 1mm while a protection circuit adds 4-5mm. That’s a big difference.

The FW3A should fit flat top and button top (most or all, I’m not sure), but not protected cells.