OK, so I am frankly a lousy audio engineer. Even with my new fancy set-up, this episode turned out to be recorded from the mic in our laptop and not the mics we were holding. I tried to compress the file the best I could, but well, it may be hard to hear.

But Rachel Reenstra was amazing, so if you can gut through the audio problems, you'll hear some terrific stories of Ducey and Rachel's past. Rachel is a TV host (HGTV's Designed to Sell, and Animal Planet's Ms. Adventure), and vlogger. And a holder of a $2000 bottle of wine!