hypernationnative saidwould like to get more details first before jumping to conclusions. hate to say it but not every incident where a gay person gets beat up by a straight person is hate motivated. there's probably more to the story from what's being said.

hypernationnative saidwould like to get more details first before jumping to conclusions. hate to say it but not every incident where a gay person gets beat up by a straight person is hate motivated. there's probably more to the story from what's being said.

I note the charge is aggravated assault, not attempted murder, and I can imagine it being further downgraded. Keahey says he can't remember much of the incident, and his attacker Johnson claims he can't, either, despite not appearing to have suffered any injuries.

I hope Keahey was able to keep a record of their chat on the MeetMe phone app, because I can see this becoming a he-said/he-said case. Was it the older Keahey who was preying on the young, 18-year-old Johnson, coming over to impose unwilling sex on this naive boy? Was the boy merely legitimately defending himself against a threatening sexual aggressor? Did Johnson have a gay panic attack, why things escalated and his memory is spotty, a defense that might still work in Texas?

I simply don't know, but I'd be surprised if Johnson's defense attorneys didn't take that line, and a Texas jury was willing to believe it. Without witnesses & evidence to the contrary, who's to be believed? A gay guy or an allegedly straight guy?

And the takeaway from this for other gays is to be wary of hook-up apps, and meeting strangers under these circumstances. Going into a stranger's house alone, without any lifelines, is a very risky proposition. Plus nothing says even gay guys can't be murderous psychos.

Being concerned about laws that involve "thought crimes" have nothing to do with "internalized homophobia." If someone kills my mother and my boyfriend, the person who kills my boyfriend (if he were found to have ever used the word "fag"), would receive a harsher sentence than the person who killed my mother. How is that right? Actions should be punishable, not thoughts. If you can't see the danger in the concept of thought crimes I won't bother explaining it to you any further.

Scruffypup saidBeing concerned about laws that involve "thought crimes" have nothing to do with "internalized homophobia." If someone kills my mother and my boyfriend, the person who kills my boyfriend (if he were found to have ever used the word "fag"), would receive a harsher sentence than the person who killed my mother. How is that right? Actions should be punishable, not thoughts. If you can't see the danger in the concept of thought crimes I won't bother explaining it to you any further.

And there is nothing "Right Wing" about me.

If you can't see that we already criminalize "thought", and quite properly, then I won't bother explaining it you further. Why else would killing a person be treated according to intention? What is intention but thought?

And yes, you very often repeat mindless right-wing propaganda.

No, You'e the Right-Winger. You're also a Republican and a staunch Conservative. Of course you'll just deny it.

Scruffypup saidNo, You'e the Right-Winger. You're also a Republican and a staunch Conservative. Of course you'll just deny it.

Yeah, that's the conclusion people will come to from reading the things I've posted over the years.If you want to get under my skin, you'll have to do better than that. That was truly lame.

You actually fell for it. I was merely doing the exact same thing you did to me. You accused me of something I am not and I did the same thing in return to prove a point. I don't repeat anything Right Wing because I am not a Right-Winger. I think for myself. I am also not stupid enough to believe the Right is wrong about everything, nor do I believe Progressives are right about everything.

Scruffypup saidYou actually fell for it. I was merely doing the exact same thing you did to me. You accused me of something I am not and I did the same thing in return to prove a point. I don't repeat anything Right Wing because I am not a Right-Winger. I think for myself. I am also not stupid enough to believe the Right is wrong about everything, nor do I believe Progressives are right about everything.

I didn't "fall for" anything. It was obvious that you were just being childish. Only a dim bulb would think anyone else would be so simple. You've whined in the past about being bullied. I wonder if you were actually bullied enough.

So I'm a "dim bulb" for repeating what you did to make a point, yet you're a genius for doing it to me. Gotcha. I think you should go back to ignoring my posts.

Scruffypup saidYou actually fell for it. I was merely doing the exact same thing you did to me. You accused me of something I am not and I did the same thing in return to prove a point. I don't repeat anything Right Wing because I am not a Right-Winger. I think for myself. I am also not stupid enough to believe the Right is wrong about everything, nor do I believe Progressives are right about everything.

I didn't "fall for" anything. It was obvious that you were just being childish. Only a dim bulb would think anyone else would be so simple. You've whined in the past about being bullied. I wonder if you were actually bullied enough.

ART_DECO saidI note the charge is aggravated assault, not attempted murder, and I can imagine it being further downgraded. Keahey says he can't remember much of the incident, and his attacker Johnson claims he can't, either, despite not appearing to have suffered any injuries.

I hope Keahey was able to keep a record of their chat on the MeetMe phone app, because I can see this becoming a he-said/he-said case. Was it the older Keahey who was preying on the young, 18-year-old Johnson, coming over to impose unwilling sex on this naive boy? Was the boy merely legitimately defending himself against a threatening sexual aggressor? Did Johnson have a gay panic attack, why things escalated and his memory is spotty, a defense that might still work in Texas?

I simply don't know, but I'd be surprised if Johnson's defense attorneys didn't take that line, and a Texas jury was willing to believe it. Without witnesses & evidence to the contrary, who's to be believed? A gay guy or an allegedly straight guy?

And the takeaway from this for other gays is to be wary of hook-up apps, and meeting strangers under these circumstances. Going into a stranger's house alone, without any lifelines, is a very risky proposition. Plus nothing says even gay guys can't be murderous psychos.

^^^^^^^

I had a party in late 1978 or 1979, one of many, not too long before I moved to California. I had mostly then current or recent OSU students plus many uninvited guest. You know where this is going already ... right? I had the infamous Jeffrey Dahmer in MY house as an uninvited guest. Of course at that time we didn't have a clue regarding what he was up to except that he drank a lot.

Take away .... always be wary, always be cautious and keep your wits about you. You just never know.

ART_DECO saidI note the charge is aggravated assault, not attempted murder, and I can imagine it being further downgraded. Keahey says he can't remember much of the incident, and his attacker Johnson claims he can't, either, despite not appearing to have suffered any injuries.

I hope Keahey was able to keep a record of their chat on the MeetMe phone app, because I can see this becoming a he-said/he-said case. Was it the older Keahey who was preying on the young, 18-year-old Johnson, coming over to impose unwilling sex on this naive boy? Was the boy merely legitimately defending himself against a threatening sexual aggressor? Did Johnson have a gay panic attack, why things escalated and his memory is spotty, a defense that might still work in Texas?

I simply don't know, but I'd be surprised if Johnson's defense attorneys didn't take that line, and a Texas jury was willing to believe it. Without witnesses & evidence to the contrary, who's to be believed? A gay guy or an allegedly straight guy?

And the takeaway from this for other gays is to be wary of hook-up apps, and meeting strangers under these circumstances. Going into a stranger's house alone, without any lifelines, is a very risky proposition. Plus nothing says even gay guys can't be murderous psychos.

^^^^^^^

I had a party in late 1978 or 1979, one of many, not too long before I moved to California. I had mostly then current or recent OSU students plus many uninvited guest. You know where this is going already ... right? I had the infamous Jeffrey Dahmer in MY house as an uninvited guest. Of course at that time we didn't have a clue regarding what he was up to except that he drank a lot.

Take away .... always be wary, always be cautious and keep your wits about you. You just never know.

Dahmer is exactly who I had in mind when I wrote above about murderous gay psychos. And maybe straight psychos who hate gays, just like some of them who hate & murder female prostitutes. You do NOT walk into some total stranger's house alone for an online hook-up.

ART_DECO saidI note the charge is aggravated assault, not attempted murder, and I can imagine it being further downgraded. Keahey says he can't remember much of the incident, and his attacker Johnson claims he can't, either, despite not appearing to have suffered any injuries.

I hope Keahey was able to keep a record of their chat on the MeetMe phone app, because I can see this becoming a he-said/he-said case. Was it the older Keahey who was preying on the young, 18-year-old Johnson, coming over to impose unwilling sex on this naive boy? Was the boy merely legitimately defending himself against a threatening sexual aggressor? Did Johnson have a gay panic attack, why things escalated and his memory is spotty, a defense that might still work in Texas?

I simply don't know, but I'd be surprised if Johnson's defense attorneys didn't take that line, and a Texas jury was willing to believe it. Without witnesses & evidence to the contrary, who's to be believed? A gay guy or an allegedly straight guy?

And the takeaway from this for other gays is to be wary of hook-up apps, and meeting strangers under these circumstances. Going into a stranger's house alone, without any lifelines, is a very risky proposition. Plus nothing says even gay guys can't be murderous psychos.

^^^^^^^

I had a party in late 1978 or 1979, one of many, not too long before I moved to California. I had mostly then current or recent OSU students plus many uninvited guest. You know where this is going already ... right? I had the infamous Jeffrey Dahmer in MY house as an uninvited guest. Of course at that time we didn't have a clue regarding what he was up to except that he drank a lot.

Take away .... always be wary, always be cautious and keep your wits about you. You just never know.

Dahmer is exactly who I had in mind when I wrote above about murderous gay psychos. And maybe straight psychos who hate gays, just like some of them who hate & murder female prostitutes. You do NOT walk into some total stranger's house alone for an online hook-up.

I didn't know him at all, but he just kinda showed up. He seemed to know a few people there so no one thought a thing of it other than he consumed plenty of alcohol.