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Re: Looking to buy smooth slurry

Originally Posted by wr.

muck is magic stuff. We won't buy better out of a bag.

Very true. Years ago you were looked down upon if you sold any muck. And in some tenancy agreements it was forbidden. And remember that a f@rt from a sheep is better than $?!t from a cow. Well that's what my Mother used to say anyway.

Re: Looking to buy smooth slurry

Originally Posted by zaza

Very true. Years ago you were looked down upon if you sold any muck. And in some tenancy agreements it was forbidden. And remember that a f@rt from a sheep is better than $?!t from a cow. Well that's what my Mother used to say anyway.

Too true. Around here they say hat a sheep's fart is better than a turd from a horse.

Re: Looking to buy smooth slurry

I am located in Plymouth, but we are looking at sites all across the country, so locality wouldn't necessarily be an issue. What I am after is an indication of value, what price would people be willing to part with muck for? my reckoning is that if you were paying for the nutrient value only you'd be at less than a tenner per tonne, so I thought £25 was fairly generous.

Re: Looking to buy smooth slurry

Originally Posted by DanLarn

I am located in Plymouth, but we are looking at sites all across the country, so locality wouldn't necessarily be an issue. What I am after is an indication of value, what price would people be willing to part with muck for? my reckoning is that if you were paying for the nutrient value only you'd be at less than a tenner per tonne, so I thought £25 was fairly generous.

Sorry but you need to get up to speed on this subject. FYM is not all about nutrients. It is also about improving the structure of the soil, encouraging worms, aiding crops in a dry time. etc. etc. I used to be contracting and before burning straw was banned I used to do the arable work on a couple of crop-only farms. It was a case of get the crop off. burn everything, and then plough & sow again. All nutrients came out of a bag and before very long the soil had no life in it at all.

But I also did arable work on livestock farms with fields that saw the muck cart on a regular basis and their soil was always a living entity. It wortked better, cropped better, withstood a dry time better. It was how we were meant to farm and I saw it at first hand. Show me a man who looks after his soil structure, his PH and his drainage and I'll show you a good farmer.

Re: Looking to buy smooth slurry

Originally Posted by zaza

Sorry but you need to get up to speed on this subject. FYM is not all about nutrients. It is also about improving the structure of the soil, encouraging worms, aiding crops in a dry time. etc. etc. I used to be contracting and before burning straw was banned I used to do the arable work on a couple of crop-only farms. It was a case of get the crop off. burn everything, and then plough & sow again. All nutrients came out of a bag and before very long the soil had no life in it at all.

But I also did arable work on livestock farms with fields that saw the muck cart on a regular basis and their soil was always a living entity. It wortked better, cropped better, withstood a dry time better. It was how we were meant to farm and I saw it at first hand. Show me a man who looks after his soil structure, his PH and his drainage and I'll show you a good farmer.

Live as if you would die tomorrow, farm as if you would farm forever.

I am in total agreement, soil structure is just as important as the nutrient balance of soils. I was simply stating that if you were applying the current price of N/P/K to your slurry/muck, it would be worth less than half what I was offering. As such, I still don't think my offer is a bad one.

Re: Looking to buy smooth slurry

Originally Posted by DanLarn

I am in total agreement, soil structure is just as important as the nutrient balance of soils. I was simply stating that if you were applying the current price of N/P/K to your slurry/muck, it would be worth less than half what I was offering. As such, I still don't think my offer is a bad one.

It doesn't look like I am getting very far here.

Some of the "old boys" used to say that swedes are 90% water but, boy oh boy, what water!
NP&K might be far cheaper per unit to spread out of a bag but those little granules do nothing for soil structure or to feed the worms. You'd be better off looking for large pig units on small parcels of land who sometimes find difficulty in disposing of the waste they create.

Re: Looking to buy smooth slurry

Originally Posted by wr.

Some of the "old boys" used to say that swedes are 90% water but, boy oh boy, what water!
NP&K might be far cheaper per unit to spread out of a bag but those little granules do nothing for soil structure or to feed the worms. You'd be better off looking for large pig units on small parcels of land who sometimes find difficulty in disposing of the waste they create.

Re: Looking to buy smooth slurry

Originally Posted by wr.

Too true. Around here they say hat a sheep's fart is better than a turd from a horse.

I do think this forum ought to enjoy a reputation for technical accuracy.
I thought a turd was somewhat cylindrical in shape, whereas from my memory the horse product is more of a circular ball.
I hope that does not come over as horseshit!
Jack Caley

Re: Looking to buy smooth slurry

Originally Posted by zaza

No one going to answer my question ?

What is the best manure of all ?

The manure that falls from the Arse of the animal, cleans it self up daily to the muck heap then when the time is right spreads it self evenly accros the land with absolutely no help from me at all,, and I may hasten to add does not under any circumstances attach itself to the follwing,

Re: Looking to buy smooth slurry

Originally Posted by Jack_Caley

I do think this forum ought to enjoy a reputation for technical accuracy.
I thought a turd was somewhat cylindrical in shape, whereas from my memory the horse product is more of a circular ball.
I hope that does not come over as horseshit!
Jack Caley

To be quite honest, I used the word Turd as I didn't want to upset anyone with the word Sh!t. There, gone and done it now

Re: Looking to buy smooth slurry

Re: Looking to buy smooth slurry

Originally Posted by Barney

What is wrong with the word poo?

Wes should all ask ourselves ''how would Father Jack have referred to whatever delicate topic is under discussion'' and take our lead from him on how to deal with what after all is an ecumenical matter.

Re: Looking to buy smooth slurry

Originally Posted by Big Vern

The manure that falls from the Arse of the animal, cleans it self up daily to the muck heap then when the time is right spreads it self evenly accros the land with absolutely no help from me at all,, and I may hasten to add does not under any circumstances attach itself to the follwing,

Re: Looking to buy smooth slurry

Originally Posted by zaza

No one going to answer my question ?

What is the best manure of all ?

they are all different. pigs and humans are rich on Phosphate so good for that
cows' is potash rich so pig shit makes a good buy for a dairy farmer.
one of the Mags MVF? NFU? gives a value of cow slurry's NPK every month
£22/1000gals i remember??