Which will aliens communicate with first? Humans, or ?

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
Would 'aliens' capable of mathematics, science and space travel communicate with fishes, even if they look like fishes? I doubt so.

Aliens that are capable of comming to Earth are not moss or algae, but sentient beings, fabricators of such crafts and engineers of such travel
systems.

I would have to argue about the possibilities of evolution of certain species capable of communication with each other. That might be a can of worms I
don't want to open.

Who's to say what animal-like aliens are and are not capable of. All sorts of creatures on our planet are capable of constructing amazing things!
Here's an example: The bug from 'Men in Black', it was a giant insect from another planet, exoskeleton and all! But it could communicate and
befriend a cockroach here on earth.

Before you argue that my example is simply science fiction, remember that sci-fi stories have led to amazing scienctific discoveries in the 20th
century.

It's an interesting idea. Just because we cant' communicate with whales and similar (presumably) highly-intelligent sea-creatures might not mean
that some other extraterrestrial race couldn't.

However, I think they will talk to us first. We're the most "obvious" species on the planet. Obvious, in the sense that our presence is easily
noted 1) from deep space (radio signals), 2) from low orbit (lighted cities at night, and larger structures/cities during the day), and 3) those few
dozen or so atomic blasts over the last half-century or so would probably have gotten somebody's attention.

Originally posted by EnhancedInterrogator
It's an interesting idea. Just because we cant' communicate with whales and similar (presumably) highly-intelligent sea-creatures might not mean
that some other extraterrestrial race couldn't.

However, I think they will talk to us first. We're the most "obvious" species on the planet. Obvious, in the sense that our presence is easily
noted 1) from deep space (radio signals), 2) from low orbit (lighted cities at night, and larger structures/cities during the day), and 3) those few
dozen or so atomic blasts over the last half-century or so would probably have gotten somebody's attention.

Now that you mention the atomic blasts, what if they are a peace loving race, and don't like nuclear bombs? Then that might give them a reason to
contact the whales instead, since the whales DIDN"T detonate any atomic bombs.

The show Seaquest DSV was really imaginative in showing a 16 year old whiz kid figure out a way to translate what the dolphin was saying. Hopefully
someday we can talk to other species on our own planet like that, but until we can, it DOES raise questions about whether we'll be able to
communicate with ET or not, since we can't even communicate with whales and dolphins.

Not sure if anyones mentioned this as yet, but maybe they DONT want to talk to us at all!

Look at us, primitive, destructive race full of jealousy, greed and hatred!

I've no doubt that at somepoint in history we have been visited, and possibly even now, but what if they are here to observe and keep us out of the
way if needed, in our own little corner.

Maybe the local universe is doing just fine as it is, and any being/s inhabiting it dont want us riff-raff messing things up.

In the mean time

Alien Adama - "Just send a ship down now and then to see how far off extinction them pesky bipeds down there are so we can get back home to the local
Grey Inn for a pint! Oh and confuse them a bit too, flash a few lights and things seeing as we have nothing better to do!"

Wouldnt aliens contact the dominating specie of a planet instead of the most "cummunicate"-able"?

If they are intelligent enough to come to us then sure they must be intelligent enough to know whales cant stop wars? or stop polluting the Earth? Or
stop making and using weapons?

language and talking is not a prerequisite for communication. There are numerous other ways to do it. And we dont know what technology's ET has in
the field of language, and we dont know how long they have studied us and our language's..

Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Now that you mention the atomic blasts, what if they are a peace loving race, and don't like nuclear bombs? Then that might give them a reason to
contact the whales instead, since the whales DIDN"T detonate any atomic bombs.

And that is exactly the reason they will talk to us, like i said before?

If they are peace loving and want us to stop detonating bombs, then why talk to a specie that have never done that, dont have the intelligence and
capability's to do it?

We detonate those bombs, and only we can stop ourselfs from doing that, so for ET there is no reason to tell a sea-creature that humans must stop
doing it.

By the way, have you ever seen a whale talking with a human? What can a whale do with the info he gets from et? translate it for us? No way! Can a
whale stop us from using bombs, again the answer is no.

If i want my neighbour to stop playing very loud music i am not going to tell his dog...

Aliens communicating with whales is an interesting idea. Maybe this is why there have been reports of UFO's spotted hovering above oceans. People
have said that the UFO could be taking on board water, but what if the intention is to communicate with something in the ocean.

And that is exactly the reason they will talk to us, like i said before?

If they are peace loving and want us to stop detonating bombs, then why talk to a specie that have never done that, dont have the intelligence and
capability's to do it?

Yeah, if nothing else, an atomic blast is an "attention getter". They might not like what we are using nuclear power for, but the fact that
we have it makes us somebody they will have to interact with on this planet at some point - even if they think we are unworthy in our current
state.

It may be an attention getter, but why exactly would they have to interact with the atomic bomb makers? If they have the ability for FTL travel and
other advancements we can only dream about, they may not be vulnerable to the bombs. Maybe they have a non interference prime directive like in Star
Trek and wouldn't meddle in our atomic affairs anyway.

As I said before it's likely they would contact humans first, but by no means does it seem to be a requirement, especially if they prefer to avoid
violent species (maybe like the Nox on Stargate SG-1).

Or is there some reason they'd have to contact the bomb makers I'm not aware of?

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