Discraft Z Predator; pearly orange with gold foil stock stamp. Sticker marked at 164-166g but scale weighed at 167g. 9/10 field tested only with no signs of having been thrown, no ink. There is a tiny factory bubble imperfection on top, $11 shipped.

Thanks for checking on the XLs. Thanks also for the Cyclone offer but I'll pass on those. Any shot I'd use a Cyclone I use a Fuse instead (which maybe others think is weird but there's a lot of overlap between the two) but my girlfriend uses a Cyclone for everything except putts. But considering how infrequently she plays and how short she throws, I'm not going to worry about her having backups.

Wizards/Jokeri/Fuse/Buzzz/Gator/XLs/Teebirds/XXX/PDs

Disc Golf (n): A game in which a round plastic object is thrown into trees until it is beat in to resemble its preferred flight characteristics, at which point it is thrown into a lake.

Yeah I used Cyclones a lot more before I found the Fuse. I still think the Cyclone shapes better lines.

Well I looked through my sterilites and I have three EP's left. two whites and one baby blue. one of the whites is a first run. all three are 7/10 or less (not sure how to grade them). all have ink as I bought them used. the FR is 174.5, the other white is 175 and the blue is 173. I think the ones I sold were in the 160's.

let me know if you want me to PM some pics. we can work out a deal through PM if you want.

Thanks for the response. I've never thrown a P-PD lighter than 163g and I'm worried about them getting too touchy as in really small margin of error for release angle/OAT (especially since as they beat, that margin or error already decreases). In other words, I fear you either have a perfect shot or you're searching off in the poison ivy somewhere. Do you have any experience/feedback in that regard?

Wizards/Jokeri/Fuse/Buzzz/Gator/XLs/Teebirds/XXX/PDs

Disc Golf (n): A game in which a round plastic object is thrown into trees until it is beat in to resemble its preferred flight characteristics, at which point it is thrown into a lake.

Well, I throw drivers ranging from 150 - 163 grams. My experience is that 150s fly the same as heavier discs when thrown the same. The tricky part is throwing the same and getting the same release point over a range of weights. Some folks throw everything from 150s and lighter up to max weight. I throw more consistently when I keep all of my discs within 10-15 grams of each other.

Lighter discs are knocked around more by the wind, but stable 150 drivers will hold the line into strong headwinds on a clean throw (although heavier discs will penetrate the wind better).

Only Q-mega and Striker left but sadly no trades have been made thus far. Have another bunch I'll post shortly. Steve, I am interested in 171-172g S series Glow Wizards- can't recall whether I saw/responded to your update....

Wizards/Jokeri/Fuse/Buzzz/Gator/XLs/Teebirds/XXX/PDs

Disc Golf (n): A game in which a round plastic object is thrown into trees until it is beat in to resemble its preferred flight characteristics, at which point it is thrown into a lake.