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Kyles shelving and workbench were delivered at 7:00a.m this morning! He was barely out of bed and undecided as to be delighted his stuff had arrived or grumpy because it was so early! As he's an utter twat, he woke me up at God forsaken oclcock to tell me/share the misery!

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Absolutely. The press seem to be making a fuss about it but it doesn't look anything special, it's specced just below a discovery and it seems to be priced extremely high.

I'm pretty disappointed... yes, the Japanese people won the battle for utilitarian 4*4s 30 years ago. No real point continuing trying to compete there. But we do have other successful 'heritage' 4*4s on the market like the Suzuki Jimmy (there's a new one out), Jeep Wrangler and Toyota FJ Cruiser which are all a lot cheaper than the new Defender, are all capable off roaders but have a rough n tumble 'activity car' spec. Not leather and chrome like we've seen today. LR has half a dozen models now and all seem to have exactly the same target market. But why blame them? Suburban parents still love buying them. The only old Defenders I've ever been in were those of my Scout master and of a friend who liked to eat animals that he'd shot.

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I'm pretty disappointed... yes, the Japanese people won the battle for utilitarian 4*4s 30 years ago. No real point continuing trying to compete there. But we do have other successful 'heritage' 4*4s on the market like the Suzuki Jimmy (there's a new one out), Jeep Wrangler and Toyota FJ Cruiser which are all a lot cheaper than the new Defender, are all capable off roaders but have a rough n tumble 'activity car' spec. Not leather and chrome like we've seen today. LR has half a dozen models now and all seem to have exactly the same target market. But why blame them? Suburban parents still love buying them. The only old Defenders I've ever been in were those of my Scout master and of a friend who liked to eat animals that he'd shot.

Yes but they aren’t good ol’ Blighty built cars that helped win the war are they?* I am sure Chelsea will be full of them, some of those kerbs are quite high...........

*note Defenders may not have existed in the war and aren’t made in the UK anymore

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Good news in the Floatylight Household! Mrs FL was offered a job yesterday and FL junior has been offered an apprenticeship as an accountant this morning, working for a motorhome company who let the staff take the vans out on holiday (result!!) his younger brother is currently having an interview to be apprentice grounds keeper at a well known football ground.. Here 's hoping it's a hat trick!

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Additional grin in wondering what the friends of a (fairly posh) friend thought when they were introduced to a scruffy man wearing an old army jacket and smoking a rollie perched on the bootlid of a manky Volvo...