Ethan and Talia discuss episode 5 of Season 3 of Better Call Saul, ‘Chicanery’. Including: a lengthy tangential discussion about hierarchal employment practices in the legal world, that may or may not be one of the themes of the series; and Talia makes a really poor joke about Disney films.

You can find an introduction to the podcast here. New episodes are published every Tuesday, or just as soon after broadcast on Netflix UK as we can. A warning: Because Better Call Saul is a spin-off series from Breaking Bad, these podcasts will be full of Breaking Bad spoilers!

You can find a list of all Better Overhaul Saul podcast episodes here.