I put this in general discussion because it seems like more ppl will see this here then on there which was part of why I put it here. Can you explain the strengths and weaknesses of both? I've only thrown a break rhbh. Thanks

A very general rule of thumb for overhand shots (haha, see what I did there) is that more overstable discs make their turn slower, which translates into the disc penetrating forward further before dropping, but it requires a wider sweep for the turning part of the flight. More understable discs will have a tighter sweep and, in my experience at least, tend to drop with less of a horizontal aspect. But they won't penetrate as far forwards before dropping.

Also worthy of notice is that by overstability he means true overstability, not speed stability. A fast overstable driver can flip just as fast as an understable one (Boss, Destroyers), the real slow turning thumber gold lies in the slower overstable discs like flat Firebirds, Champ Banshees, or the two slowest turning thumber discs out there, the Opto XXX and the Premium JOKERi (the first runs are absolutely fantastic for this, haven't tried a second run though).

If you can really spank your OH though, the speed of a fast driver might actually give you more distance than the glide of a slower one, at which point flat Z Flicks and Z Nuke OS's become great choices. But you really need to be ripping them out there.

Parks wrote:If the posts on this forum are any indication, the PD is like a Teebird with sunshine coming out of its butthole so hard that it flies faster.

the z xrtras were great thumbers. i currently use tridents for the wide sweeping thumber and a z tracker for the tighter rolling throws. i get about the same distance of between 275'-300', but lines are different.