I'd advise you to read that superb post a little more closely, friend.

Thanks for the advice but the first comment centers on irrational hatred--there's nothing irrational about it. As you read further he throws you the bone about how everyone should stick up for their own but hey, it's evident, WE'RE LOSING!--so I'll not read with content something that is just palliative therapy to separate you from us "irrationals". It's CRAP! WAKE UP!

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OOOHHH THE POOR JEWS!!!

Last edited by ADAMANT; 03-22-2007 at 11:58 PM.
Reason: there to their, I'm volatile.

Although your ranting diatribe to me isn't worthy of my time or response, or indeed the time of anyone attending Stormfront (trolls included), I thought it best to write a short response that politely points out that nowhere did I state that any minority has been "short changed by whitey." Perhaps you should acquire better reading skills before you accuse others of things that they never mentioned. Meanwhile, I will be here defending White Nationalism, online and off, against those who seek to destroy it, and saving it from imbeciles such as you who give unlimited ammunition to those same Jews and Negroes you previously mentioned.

I'm just a white guy, trying to look out for my own race, my own culture. All I'm doing is trying to prevent people from destroying it through multiracialism.

You see, anti-racists think, in order to solve the race problem, to create peace, that we should all mix. They want ALL and ONLY white nations to become mixed. Problem is, that anti-racists don't argue this for asia and africa, only white countries. It kind of doesn't make sense, to argue for one race world wide, and only mix in white nations?
Why do you think that is?
Why do you think that only white nations are required to go multicultural? Why should white people be willing to sacrifice their nations? And this is not just the US, but also Australia, the UK, Europe, pretty much anywhere where there are white people, there is a push for multiracialism.

Why is it that when I try to look after my own, I'm a nazi-hater-bigot?
Why objection do you have to a particular race of humanity which is trying to preserve itself?

Dear Nate, my reading skills are fine--I'd then ask to whom you were you referring to when you speak of "irrational hatred". In the broad picture it's only "us" who are the haters, not jews or negros. That set a tone that precludes an "irrational" such as myself to agreeing any further. You're saying you are above all that? Wow, you must be quite the man! This young man has been taught that an inherent concern (not hate-I'll give you that) about what is going on around him is, in your words not his, IRRATIONAL. Maybe it is the wording but, sorry dude, it's programming and I cannot velvet glove it-so keep your reputation to yourself- it's us "irrationals" that stir the pot.

With regard to the idea that the White Nation is being defeated, I have written numerous times on the ways in which White Nationalism may implement itself in practical terms, and the best ways in which to gain both quality recruits and prepare for the eventual. Since I don't feel this particular thread with some of its viewers as being worth much of my time, I will repost two of my previous statements on the topic, on two different forums:

"White Nationalism is a term which encompasses primarily two aspects: the first and most important being the designation of all individuals of European (specifically Northern European) descent as part of a greater racial or ethnic Nation, meaning a body of people sharing related culture, language, history, racial origin and, as events are demonstrating to us in no uncertain terms, a shared destiny. I would also like to point out that the term "White" is by necessity an abstraction. It can be said that there is much diversity within Europe and its descendents, and that the term "White" is meaningless. This is not entirely true; in the United States and other countries, there has been significant loss of individual identity as members of differing European heritages mix freely. The result is much like the problem that slavery had caused among the Negroes; namely, that the descendents of these who have mixed European heritages have no solid identity; or perhaps have no idea where their ancestors have come from. Just as the Negroes have begun to refer to any descendents of the African continent as "Black," and arrange "Black Pride" and "Black History" campaigns to restore their natural ethnic pride, however broad, so too must displaced Whites be afforded the same privilege so that they may not lose their own sense of Peoplehood and Nationality.

The second meaning which logically follows from the first is a geographical nation or homeland for the previously defined people so that they may exert both individual and national sovereignty; be able to ensure the health and vitality of their people, and develop their culture and future without external interference or prejudice. White Nationalism, in my opinion, is about the preservation and survival of the White Nation, in both its secular and philosophical aspects; and freedom from external subjugation at the hands of overly sensitive and truly racist minorities whose goal is nothing short of placing the White majority of the world in a strangle-hold of political correctness and pseudo-"tolerance," all the while extolling their own racial agendas and ensuring the advancement of their own people to the detriment of ours.

The first and foremost goal of White Nationalism must be to increase the racial conscience and strengthen the ethnic identity of the average White individual. Unless the White majority of the United States and other nations begin to defend themselves against the Orwellian onslaught against them and the expression of their own ethnic identities; and begin to feel in earnest the cultural and national pride that the minorities within their borders exhibit on a daily basis, nothing more can be done for the movement; and, indeed, the movement would already be in danger of being lost. This is in reference to the first definition of "White Nationalism," given that areas in which Whites are already the majority need not flee in patterns of "White Flight" to other locations; they merely need to awaken and realize the obviousness of their situation, and muster the courage to exert their right to life and prosperity without being forced to passively accept daily doses of guilt, repression, and anti-White propaganda. On this relatively "theoretical" or "philosophical" position, European literature, philosophy, native symbols that have been degraded by unscrupulous politicians such as the Fylfot (Swastika) and the Runes must be reclaimed and once more become objects of cultural rejuvenation and symbols of unabashed pride and dignity.

If the White majority begins to suffer decline and cultural stagnation, the first stages already becoming prevalent, and becomes a minority in a land of hostile non-Whites, then uniting in fixed geographical territories would become a necessity. These territories would most likely be decided not be pre-planning, but rather by the natural patterns of White Flight when faced with non-White aggression, hostility, and substandard living conditions produced during their influx. As positions of leadership become increasingly darker in color, and the anti-White racist agenda that is so common among minorities today becomes apparent, then these territories must begin active resistance on all fronts. This includes cultural rejuvenation; response to hostile propaganda and the recruitment for other disenfranchised Whites to join the resistance; self-defense and self-reliance in the face of non-White discrimination; and perhaps even armed, military resistance if the situation becomes this bleak. Unfortunately, too many jump on this fringe bandwagon of armed resistance today; it is obvious to any discerning individual that what is needed most in this day and age is not to move farther into the fringe, but rather into the mainstream; to capture the hearts and minds of the average members of the White Nation and thereby effect a true restoration of its Peoplehood and a virtual renaissance of its culture. The creation of new homelands and armed resistance is not yet required, and does nothing but reinforce the prevalent notion that White Nationalists are little more than unthinking, instinctual extremists who aren't capable of rational thought. Perhaps in the future, when desperate times call for desperate measures and the Holocaust against us becomes much less silent and much more practical, this armed element will have real utility; but not at the present moment."

Regarding quality recruits:

"I think the best recruiting technique is to let our generation experience the effects of our modern experiments-in-insanity firsthand, such as Affirmative Action, non-segregated school system, the Africanization of our culture, and the treasonous open-border policy in America. When they begin seeing their cities and towns turning into virtual ghettos before their eyes, their inability to become employed because of the racist policies of most employers actively seeking cheap labor from minorities, and the general fact that they are unable to mention the obvious in public because of blatant racism against the White Nation which is further supported by self-loathing and White Guilt, then they will become dissociated from modern society and the "melting pot" ideology. They will search for alternatives, no longer caring what a blind and increasingly ignorant society may think of them for seeing what they're afraid to even think. When they begin thinking for themselves, they will either become some form of Anarchists, or better yet White Nationalists or National Socialists. The only thing that any of us can do is ensure that there is quality information and groups wherein we may discuss such issues and decide on the best actions to take at any given time, and that such groups and literature can be easily found through carefully disseminated propaganda, such as fliers, tracts, and of course internet references.

Aside from this, we sit quietly in the underground or on the fringes of mainstream society, further developing our ideologies and preparing ourselves for the inevitable; the rise of a totalitarian, anti-White racist regime which will take tyranny to new heights, dropping all signs of pretext and openly advocating their holocaust against the White Nation. Then as our societies begin to crumble at the very foundations, a renewed and reinvigorated Nation will arise out of the old social order; namely, a White Nation reborn in its Germanic archetypes and strength, united under a common banner and goal. If this image doesn't serve to recruit new members, then there are literally no members worth recruiting at the present."

When the desire to see the White Nation survive and its culture and traditions developing, avoiding the stagnation that we currently see, is eclipsed by deep-seated hatred for other racial nations, then defeat is nothing short of inevitable. The highest priority is the survival of the Folk and their Folkways; the White Nation and its heritage, and not puerile and irrational hatred and short lived adolescent rebellion that will result in nothing but aiding those who oppose such a White Revival and White Nationalism itself. This is why I have always maintained that such fringe movements should be constantly tempered and non-productive members pruned away in order to be both effective and, above all, credible. Half-baked conspiracies, ill thought-out ideas, and propaganda whose material is childish and in most cases is a grammatical abomination does not promote this end in the least.

As I said, the distinguishing mark of true allegiance and racial consciousness is the use of reason in decision making, not irrational hatred stemming from instability and half-hearted assent for the purpose of egotistic rebellion.

Dear Nate, I'll digest you turgid prose tomorrow, though I doubt it is anything new. Perhaps a young man will be more likely than me to wring out the "inner meaning" and fill me in. Maybe then we can come to a reasonable agreement on how to best advance the cause. Thanks.

I'm going to make up a story to show you what racism seems like to me. I am anti-racism, I'm not going to bash any of you, but this is the opposing views forum so I feel like this is acceptable to post here. So here's a little story-

Johny tells jackie all jews drive dirt bikes. While Jackie knows many jews that don't ride dirt bikes, one day Jackie sees a jewish person driving a dirt bike and thinks to herself "hey, maybe johny is right!", whilst ignoring all the jews she knows that don't ride dirt bikes. Granted, this is a very limited view of the whole matter.

I don't agree that having pride for your race is wrong; however, after reading through this site, I see much hatred towards other races. Why judge a whole group of people based on what some do? So blacks commit more crimes than whites, is this a reason to hate black people? Obviously many of you would say "yes" to this, but I see it as a "no." Why? Because for one thing, black people aren't one cohesive unit, and it's not like one black person can/should be held responsible for what other black people have done, we are all humans, and we are all different from one another.

Now you may think, "ok, well he's acting illogically then, if black people commit more crimes, than why act ignorant about it?" Well, this has to do with the fact that I believe that all men are created equally. Obviously this is a controversial belief on a site like this. It seems to me though, that if I grew up in a bad neighborhood though, I might grow up to drug deal etc.

What I'm basically saying, is to me, it seems like black people have built themselves into a sort of hole. Many black people I know that come from nice neighborhoods are great people, and I find it retarded to hate them because what some people of their race has done. Shouldn't the fact that a black person growing up in the same neighborhood as a white person acting the same be interpreted as all men are equal but are affected by this surroundings?

Again, I'm only asking for discussion and opinions, and while I am against racism, I'm not here to bash your guys' views.

p.s-for the record, I am a white 16 year old male, please don't hold my age against me.

Johnny should tell Jackie that although a few trees are not burning,the forest is on fire.

All of a race are not to be condemned for the crimes of the many,however,others not of said race would be well advised to keep a watchful distance from and a suspicious eye on the race in question.
Trends and tendencies are the building blocks of postulates,lemmas,theories,and ultimately,scientific proofs.

Brainwashing is just what the name implies:cleansing of one's mind,i.e.,creating a blank slate on which new information can be imprinted.

Your 5840 day life has probably consisted of at least 250,000 food commercials alone,plus,close to at least 1000 days in front of a Television and computer being fed pre-digested pabulum created to promote brand loyalty and maximum economic consumption.Do you think you are informed?

Read Tragedy And Hope by Carroll Quigley first,then read Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler,Which Way Western Man? by William Gayley Simpson,The Hoax Of The Twentieth Century by Arthur Butz,and THEN defend a position of your own mind.

Johny tells jackie all jews drive dirt bikes. While Jackie knows many jews that don't ride dirt bikes, one day Jackie sees a jewish person driving a dirt bike and thinks to herself "hey, maybe johny is right!", whilst ignoring all the jews she knows that don't ride dirt bikes. Granted, this is a very limited view of the whole matter.

Here's my viewpoint.

Jane is white and lives in the twilight zone, where you can't walk in a city without a car trying to hit you. There are white, black, brown and purple cars and they'd all like to run you over and squash you. In Jane's city, it's the black cars that are especially known for their desire to chase you and run you over. Some people have been hit by the brown, white and purple cars before, but it's a lot more uncommon.
Sometimes Jane walks down the street and a black car drives by and ignores her. But would she take a chance and step out onto the street as it drives by? Knowing it is more likely to kill her 7 times more than the other cars, she avoids the black cars at all costs.

John the anti comes along and tells Jane that she is just being hateful, there's some black cars out there that don't feel like killing you, even if it is 1 in 1000.

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Well, this has to do with the fact that I believe that all men are created equally. Obviously this is a controversial belief on a site like this. It seems to me though, that if I grew up in a bad neighborhood though, I might grow up to drug deal etc.

You believe.

I don't believe it.

I've lived in both black and White "bad" neighborhoods, each with it's own share of poverty. I can say from experience that it's a completely different reality. Poor blacks and poor Whites are not comparable. It's like comparing bananas to cupcakes.

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What I'm basically saying, is to me, it seems like black people have built themselves into a sort of hole. Many black people I know that come from nice neighborhoods are great people, and I find it retarded to hate them because what some people of their race has done. Shouldn't the fact that a black person growing up in the same neighborhood as a white person acting the same be interpreted as all men are equal but are affected by this surroundings?

It's all irrelevant anyway.

I could care less about "the blacks" and their bullsh-t. The problem with them is they insist on staying in or migrating to White countries, bringing all their crime, White woman lust and demands.

They can go be equal in their own countries, which they have plenty of. We aren't about to run out of Negroes too soon.

Dear Nate, I have indeed read your longer post and it did clarify some of the things that set me off (irrational?) in the original post. My point of contention originally had to do with the phrases "irrational hatred" and "us judging each induvidual on an induvidual basis". Nothwithstanding the tempering words you added that is what this boy has been taught every minute by the folkish jews-who, of course, will NOT allow you the goodwill of being folkish. That coupled to the context of the young man's original post is exactly how we've ended up in the quagmire we're currently in. Young people are not going to "see the results of affirmative action, non-segregated schools and africanization of our culture" in any numbers to procure sufficient quality recruits--hell more than ever they strive for "equality"! This lead to my rant about the "irrational hatred" as this young man has evidently gotten a heavy dose of that perception. Why do you think he is here sheepishly asking about his concerns? I would guess because he is a thinking man, he's in a sea of filth and nothing makes sense. He's a 1 percenter. The utopia you speak of is not ever going to happen at this rate without, and I agree with you, rock bottom bloodshed. We're not voting our way to it what with the sea of somnambulars, and the jews will make sure the laws, financing and media preclude any of those dreams of being fulfilled. That said I do not feel a calmly measured approach will build an army. I think that instead of tempering out our reactions, especially with young people, they need to see a bit of harsh reality ASAP--which is always dictated to us whites, especially our IMPRESSIONABLE youth as an "irrational" reaction to "imagined" slights. One by one, and immediately, "personal" examples that would draw slurs of "irrational" and "hatred" need to be sown amongst our young so they don't waste time they (we) do not have. We have to become "irrational" and weather the slurs to make them notice things that harm THEM--the things we already know. An example is the simplistic analogy that I posted. Forget the give negros a chance stuff and that makes us automatically "irrational". Again, we know who frames these arguments and I say to even consider that the current state of affairs is at all conducive to us defending our position now or in the future is fantasyland. As it stands we're still losing badly, and I think that the recognition of this is where the "fringe" you speak of are born. WE NEED THE FRINGE. I do apologize for the previous harsh words but it does alarm me that if we cannot avoid the scenario where our children WASTE 20 years of their lives judging "induviduals" and shunning what is taught to be "irrational" we might as well pack it in as we're on a slow, painful ride to slavery in our own lands. Thanks for the stimulation.