Something Idiotic This Way Comes

Pastor Wayne Hanson—who runs Summit Church in Castle Rock, CO where Tim’s dad often speaks—tells TMZ God is actively intervening in Denver Broncos football games ... and aiding Tim on the field because of his strong faith. Hanson tells us, “It’s not luck. Luck isn’t winning 6 games in a row. It’s favor. God’s favor.” We asked Hanson if Tebow would be winning games if he wasn’t such a strong believer—and the pastor replied, “No, of course not.”

Pastor Wayne Hanson, you are a #$@!ing imbecile.

Thank God we didn't have Pastor Wayne around when Muhammad Ali was winning boxing matches. I'm sure he'd have one hell of a quote ready for us all.

Just when I thought it was safe to talk about Tim Tebow the football player and humanitarian.

If &#8220God&#8217s favor&#8221 is producing football wins then I need to talk to the deity about questionable priorities.

Two more points&#8212Todd Starnes is being deceptive, which is hardly a Christian value despite his defensive posturing. Army regulations (see OpEd) forbid permanent sectarian symbols. His cited oppression seems to be some mischief from individuals who don&#8217t believe in religious neutrality. It appears, from what little I know, to have been intended as provocative act, which is why the Army has neutrality regulations. Secondly, I&#8217m getting tired of the Christian persecution myth, especially since it often comes from people who regard me as the anti-Christ/Devil solely because my beliefs are outside their sect&#8217s beliefs.

Posted by colinski on 2011-12-13 21:48:48

You guys are awfully gullible&#8230.

TMZ has about as much credibility as MSNBC.

Why is this even a story? Does Tim say these things?

Tim&#8217s dad speaks at a church, and that makes this guy Tim&#8217s pastor?

I&#8217m pretty sure I read somewhere that he watches church service on TV with his brother, so he won&#8217t be a distraction&#8230..

Posted by Broncotodd on 2011-12-13 15:53:09

boo, Colin, for a FN link! 50 lashes with a wet noodle as penance.

Posted by underdog on 2011-12-13 06:46:46

geez. as a person who believes a lot of things about Jesus, that he is making the broncos win is not one of them.

It makes Tim Tebow who he is, and it is refreshing to see someone so genuine and consistant, regardless of what he believes.

it is just unfortunate that the media cant live in a world where a strong religious conviction can be a large factor but not the only factor in a complex situation.

Posted by Jayfinanderson on 2011-12-13 05:44:33

I made the mistake of reading a Fox editorial on Tebow after reading this IAOFM post.

I was going to read my email when I saw the OpEd, which appeared to be on the same general subject as this (or so I thought). Read it at your own risk.

Posted by colinski on 2011-12-13 04:06:55

Could it be that Jesus Christ Tebows Lord and Savior is indeed helping the odds?

I for one believe that something is going on that is new to the NFL..

It is certainly getting attention, maybe that is a good thing..

Just maybe Jesus is lending a hand.. If he is works for me..

Posted by lonestar on 2011-12-13 03:16:39

Hmmm&#8230That&#8217s amusing&#8230

Posted by bfree2bronc on 2011-12-13 01:12:52

Full disclosure: I&#8217m a Reverend with a New Thought church besides being a student of Political Psychology, in which I frequently study the attitudes of religious sects.

I give Tebow far more credit here, since he&#8217s been very circumspect in his comments and has avoided making the sort of Christian triumphalist message which Hanson clearly verges on, if not necessarily overtly.

I don&#8217t wish to turn this into a religious discussion but I do have huge problems with Wayne Hanson&#8217s message. And by this, I don&#8217t mean a &#8220Christian message,&#8221 even though he&#8217s not unlike many other Christians. I&#8217ve watched one of Hanson&#8217s sermons from his site and find it disturbing. It&#8217s standard fare but it&#8217s disturbing at a level which robots such as Hanson never dwell, because they lack the mental and introspective capacity. And it&#8217s sad, because there is something good that Hanson is attempting to point people towards but he&#8217s a very poor messager.

Posted by colinski on 2011-12-13 00:58:13

I think that the belief or believing in something is the key (to whatever belief that is). No matter what or to whom the belief is, it makes a person who is believing to be mentally tough.

The Denver Broncos of today is one of the toughest team in Mental side when it comes to 4th quarter. To think of it when it comes to 4th quarter the team rarely makes mistake. That is because they believe that even if they are down by a score or two when there is time they have a chance to win.

Those types of comment (to think its from a pastor) give God and Christianity a bit of bad name. I don&#8217t think that if there is God that he will abandon or favor a team.

Parish Pastor and Priest makes me puke. I also don&#8217t think Tebow thinks God is helping him. He believes that probably that the strength God gives him (at birth) is of purpose, whether that is to win a football game.

If he is misquoted then shame on the media. (Sorry for the rant)

Posted by kaisaki-Oblue on 2011-12-13 00:22:05

Hmm&#8230 So Pastor Wayne&#8217s theory is that a team&#8217s ability to win is correlated to the amount of piety (measured in kiloCalvins) of the starting lineup. As good of a correlation as any other for Tebow.

RT @MaxBroncos: Tweet from the pastor at the center of the TMZ/Tebow story.

RT @pastorwayneh they mis-quoted me&#8230thanks to TMZ

Posted by underdog on 2011-12-12 21:25:31

As a Christian I cringe when I see things like this. I wonder if he would&#8217ve thought those first century Christians getting sawn in 2 for their faith were experiencing &#8220God&#8217s favor.&#8221

Posted by pubkeeper on 2011-12-12 21:11:02

*facepalm*

Posted by AllBroncsAllDay on 2011-12-12 21:09:14

This is the kind of nonsense that makes people anti-Tebow, and for the most part through no fault of his own. Enough already, loonies.

Posted by underdog on 2011-12-12 20:50:37

I agree with Hanson that Tebow wouldn&#8217t be winning games if he wasn&#8217t such a strong believer, but it&#8217s due to the psychological effects of belief not a diety&#8217s special favor. I plan to enjoy the wins and ignore the loons.

Posted by spock on 2011-12-12 20:32:25

If you google Summit Church Castle Rock CO you can get a vid of &#8220Wayne Hanson&#8221 peddling something.

He&#8217s actually Glen Beck.

Posted by bradley on 2011-12-12 20:21:11

Where was God when the Jews in Germany needed help saving their lives?

Oh, wait. Sorry, I get confused about the God thing sometimes. They weren&#8217t Baptists.