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The blog is called ten percent because of what Kurt Vonnegut wrote when remembering Susan Sontag - She was asked what she had learned from the Holocaust, and she said that 10 percent of any population is cruel, no matter what, and that 10 percent is merciful, no matter what, and that the remaining 80 percent could be moved in either direction.-

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Tories Are Bigoted Authoritarians, There Is Nothing Liberal Or Democratic About Them

7 May, 2010 — RickB

To prove they are not Tory-Lite and as duplicitous as any other party the Lib Dems have to reject any deal with Cameron, instead they and Labour should agree a coalition that works towards an election under a new PR system within two years. Tories supported apartheid, they legalised homophobia, they are backed by non dom financiers who profit from crisis. They are home to Christian fundamentalists and anti-science, anti-choice irrational, dishonest, Machiavellian grifters. 56.4% of voters want progressive government, to make a deal with minority conservative rule betrays every one of the Lib Dems supporters progressive ideals and democratic instincts. Unless it’s all about power and being comfortably middle class while cuts rain down on the poorest and infirm. We are about to see what Nick Clegg is made of.

21 Responses to “Tories Are Bigoted Authoritarians, There Is Nothing Liberal Or Democratic About Them”

It would be clever gamesmanship but awful for the people, there is chance to reform the electoral system off this situation and deny a tory shock doctrine plus government. If I had to lay money I think they might remain as opposition but allow a deal with tories, so they can let the tories take the heat and vote how they want, remaining the bridesmaid but with vote make or breaking influence. But that would betray I think many of the new voters they got who are left/progressive, a lib lab coalition and pr election would be the best outcome and it can happen if they have some courage, integrity and vision. Ok, a long shot then.

I think any form of pact is very bad news, relying on a bourgeois party like the LibDems is politically wrong-headed, they are yellow Tories who are just as desperate as the Tories to cut and cut they well.

You can’t trust them (and it was always obv. that Clegg would wanna be part of Dave’s gang, he said it all along and people seem to forget that Clegg is part of the right in the LibDems!)

The left needs to find another strategy, and that means a fightback you cannot rely on pacts and the LibDems will be finding ways to stitch this pact up. Because whose terms will this be on? And it will go beyond the issue of PR.

Again, it will be bad news we need to concentrate on a fightback and thankfully Left MPs have been reelected to be part of the resistance.

I would agree if Labour was not controlled by New Labour robots who are pretty darned bourgeois. So as I see it it is a tory govt, or a coalition that within two years has another election under PR which I think will offer opportunities for much better left representation. In opposition all Labour will do is act like a left wing party knowing they don’t have to back it up with action so no real pressure to deal with the neoliberal New Labour cabal, in a coalition they will need every vote so left MP’s will not get so ignored and then an election where votes will have less prospect of being wasted because of electoral reform. Ok Clegg is from the right of the LD’s but there is this opportunity for something different which given 31 years of neoliberal govts, would be worth a try. Fundamentally I don’t see FPTP as democratic or socialist, it seems to just breed lesser evilism.

Yes, pr will give the left better representation but could also give the likes of the bnp and other extreme flavours representation. On the question of democracy Is it really fair that 23% odd of the vote could sway the introduction of pr when 77% rejected it though I have included the `others`in that percentage. Perhaps the only fair way is by referendum ask the voter whether or not they want that system. An unholy alliance between any of the big three repulses me.

I love the idea of people voting against a system that represents them better, and they would too! Yes the BNP might see some advance but that is democracy, it would force people to confront them and the deluded souls who support them.

‘An unholy alliance between any of the big three repulses me.’ In a way the neoliberal consensus does that already, so I think your repulsion is absolutely correct, what PR might do is put deal making powers into an organised left coalition which would be the most serious challenge to that corporate one party rule for ages.

Yet I understand the LibDem party campaigned on ditching the pound and putting UK on the Euro. And they advocated this position concurrent with the Greek melt-down which could destroy the Euro. So I can’t help but suspect the LibDem party leader is a moron.

Though maybe I missed something, as I’m not following the situation that closely…