Huckabee claims inaccurately that Obama was raised in Kenya

Former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee got his facts wrong when he claimed twice during an interview Monday that President Obama was raised in Kenya.

During an interview with The Steve Malzberg Show, Huckabee said the president, "having grown up in Kenya," would have a different - more hostile - perspective on the British:

I would love to know more. What I know is troubling enough. And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, [is] very different than the average American.

He repeated the claim, saying:

...if you think about it, his perspective as growing up in Kenya with a Kenyan father and grandfather, their view of the Mau Mau Revolution in Kenya is very different than ours because he probably grew up hearing that the British were a bunch of imperialists who persecuted his grandfather.

The Associated Press reports that a Huckabee adviser did not have an immediate explanation for Huckabee's comments

The president, a United States citizen, was in fact raised in Hawaii and Indonesia. The president's father was born in Kenya and his mother was born in Kansas.

Huckabee did not go as far as to say the president did not grow up in the United States or that his birth certificate was forged, as "birthers" believe. Asked if he would ask the president about his birth certification in a debate, Huckabee said:

The only reason I'm not as confident that there's something about the birth certificate, Steve, is because I know the Clintons [inaudible] and believe me, they have lots of investigators out on him, and I'm convinced if there was anything that they could have found on that, they would have found it, and I promise they would have used it.

Huckabee is a host on the FOX News Channel and is expected to consider a 2012 presidential bid.

"Governor Huckabee simply misspoke when he alluded to President Obama growing up in 'Kenya.' The Governor meant to say the President grew up in Indonesia."

"When the Governor mentioned he wanted to know more about the President, he wasn't talking about the President's place of birth - the Governor believes the President was born in Hawaii. The Governor would however like to know more about where President Obama's liberal policies come from and what else the President plans to do to this country - as do most Americans."

I doubt that the lily white republican party will ever get over being bested by a black man. Obama's win was like twisting a corkscrew into their guts>>>> This is the most accurate post that I have seen on the web. Mike is a old time white southern preacher. Does not have a clue how to run a country. Good post papafritz571 |

So, Huckabee admission that he mistakenly substituted Kenya for Indonesia really doesn't make a difference to the left-wing.
And, the fact that the discussion had nothing to do with the "birther" issue that the left relishes. He was speaking about Obama's father's culture. I don't recall the left acknowledging Obama's mistake when he couldn't remember how many states are in the union.

Wow - Look at all the vitriolic knee-jerk posts from the Boston-DC Coastal Corridor Commies who read the Compost. They'd really go apoplectic if they read World Net Daily, where Joseph Farah is offering $10K to anyone who can verify the name of the Hawaiian hospital where the Bamster was allegedly born. Why don't one of you geniuses "in the know" go there (www.wnd.com) and pick up some cool cash?

There is an original filed birth certificate showing that Barak Hussein Obama II was born in Mombasa, Keyna. There are credible witnesses that were there and so state. Barark's mother they say flew him to Hawaii four days later and registered him as a newborn there.

The way I see it, Huckabee could claim Obama was raised on the far side of Mars and not be wrong until the validated documents are presented for the public to see!
As I see it, based on Obama's own words and actions, He's a Kenyan Born, Anti-American, Anti-Constitution, Subversive Muslim! If I'm wrong, prove it! Just show us the documents and I'll apologize.

It an old lawyer trick. It doesn't matter whether it's true or not, the object is to plant a seed of doubt that it might be true. A lot of people will hear his words, but not the correction of his words, and think its true. Right now, probably 10% of the population thinks Obama grew up in Kenya, all because of the lying Repubs & tea nuts. It's because they are such blatant, unashamed, lying bunch of people that I post comments against the repubs.

Sadly, although he generally comes across as a nice guy, Huckabee is lying through his teeth. He didn't misspeak and say "Kenya" by mistake; his quote makes absolutely no sense if "Indonesia" is substituted.

And Huckabee certainly knows Obama's history, and knows that he grew up with very little contact with his father, who therefore wasn't around to indoctrinate the future President against the British.

Indonesia had a colonial period, but the Brits didn't have much to do with it.

I am sorry for the Nike Huckabees and everyone else who say that Obama is not an American citizen. If he was not, there is no way that the Democrats and Republican would let him be President. I believe that that Black face is driving those racist hearts crazy. I think that you are saying "I ain't taking no orders from that "N" We are the Masters and that slave can't tell us nothing." Forgive me black people, maybe Huck got black blood in him and he is scared of your finding out. Check those records and see what you find out.

Get over it folks, Mr. Obama is the President and I am hoping for a second term.

How do you think the Obama children feel when they hear all of you lie of their father? This is one thing that they do know, their DADDI IS THE PRESIDENT.

I am sorry for the Nike Huckabees and everyone else who say that Obama is not an American citizen. If he was not, there is no way that the Democrats and Republican would let him be President. I believe that that Black face is driving those racist hearts crazy. I think that you are saying "I ain't taking no orders from that "N" We are the Masters and that slave can't tell us nothing." Forgive me black people, maybe Huck got black blood in him and he is scared of your finding out. Check those records and see what you find out.

Get over it folks, Mr. Obama is the President and I am hoping for a second term.

How do you think the Obama children feel when they hear all of you lie of their father? This is one thing that they do know, their DADDI IS THE PRESIDENT.

I am sorry for the Nike Huckabees and everyone else who say that Obama is not an American citizen. If he was not, there is no way that the Democrats and Republican would let him be President. I believe that that Black face is driving those racist hearts crazy. I think that you are saying "I ain't taking no orders from that "N" We are the Masters and that slave can't tell us nothing." Forgive me black people, maybe Huck got black blood in him and he is scared of your finding out. Check those records and see what you find out.

Get over it folks, Mr. Obama is the President and I am hoping for a second term.

How do you think the Obama children feel when they hear all of you lie of their father? This is one thing that they do know, their DADDI IS THE PRESIDENT.

So media matters is telling us Obama was not raised in Kenya does it? Well how are they privy to this revelation? Huckabee is closer to the truth than what has ever been revealed. So if media matters wishes to question the Huckabee slip up, strut your stuff and show us the proof. Obama displays his dads anti colonialism and he sat for years in a so called church that teaches liberation theology which is African socialism. Huckebee is far closer to the truth in his slip up than media matters in its attempt to exaggerate a slip of the tongue.
Oh and by the way, do you think Obama has figured out yet the actual number of states in our union? He thought there were 57.
Duh!

The way I see it, Huckabee could claim Obama was raised on the far side of Mars and not be wrong until the validated documents are presented for the public to see!
As I see it, based on Obama's own words and actions, He's a Kenyan Born, Anti-American, Anti-Constitution, Subversive Muslim! If I'm wrong, prove it! Just show us the documents and I'll apologize.

To be a member of the any republican adm. you have to a qualified liar and to work for FAUX you have to be an expert liar. Huck has now showed he can qualify for both positions so let him run so everyone can see his dark side. All of that Bible talk is just for show as you can see those down south "BIGOTS" believe him because he is saying what they want to hear.

Huckabee’s geographical mistake concerning Obama’s childhood does not take away from the point he was making that was both accurate and valid. Obama did not have the normal upbringing that American presidents have. This is quite obvious in the way he governs. His 20 year association with Reverend Wright, and many of his czars past and present like Van Jones are indeed considered radical by millions of American people. Obama’s admiration for Saul Alinsky is one that should send a red flag to anyone who is against Socialism.

Where was the bias Liberal press when Obama:

Stated that we had 57 States in the US?

Made a joke at the expense of the Special Olympics?

Visited Austria and made reference to the nonexistent "Austrian language”?

Had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to "Cinco de Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the 5th of May (Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again.

Does the author of this article really think writing about this is news worthy? You are over paid and under qualified.

I think we have to give Huckabee the benefit of the doubt. After all, he did indicate he misspoke. He has to wade through an environment of right-wing lies and propaganda, and I imagine it is difficult to keep his head straight. He's generally a rare type of conservative, willing to take positions that don't always pander to the GOP base.

If, as his spokesperson says, Huckabee deidn't mean Kenya but actually Indonesia, then why did he cite the Mau Mau Revolution, which happened in Kenya? Does Mr. Huckabee know about an 11th commandment the rest of us don't: When called on a stupid mistake, lie.

If, as his spokesperson says, Huckabee deidn't mean Kenya but actually Indonesia, then why did he cite the Mau Mau Revolution, which happened in Kenya? Does Mr. Huckabee know about an 11th commandment the rest of us don't: When called on a stupid mistake, lie.

If, as his spokesperson says, Huckabee deidn't mean Kenya but actually Indonesia, then why did he cite the Mau Mau Revolution, which happened in Kenya? Does Mr. Huckabee know about an 11th commandment the rest of us don't: When called on a stupid mistake, lie.

where they assert that Huckabee said Obama was born in Kenya.... yet according to the story, Huckabee DID NOT SAY that!

Just as Obama and many other people in public life, Huckabee made a mistake - as he points out, in the book he is currently promoting, he clearly states that Obama spent part of his childhood in Indonesia. He also doesn't dispute Obama's birth...so this entire story was unnecessary and merely a WAPO leftwing "Gotcha" that they will bring up time and again if Huckabee decides to run for office.

Even leftwing partisans should see this clearly for what it is ... nonsense!

I have lost all respect for Huckabee given he is obviously attempting to stir the pot and spread misinformation in an effort to skew viewpoints of Obama. Even if he had said Indonesia instead of Kenya, he would have been spreading misperceptions. While Obama did spend some early years in Indonesia, he was primarily educated at a private school in Hawaii and later attended and graduated Harvard -- a good U.S. education indeed! Does anybody know where Mr. Huckabee was educated?

I have lost all respect for Huckabee given he is obviously attempting to stir the pot and spread misinformation in an effort to skew viewpoints of Obama. Even if he had said Indonesia instead of Kenya, he would have been spreading misperceptions. While Obama did spend some early years in Indonesia, he was primarily educated at a private school in Hawaii and later attended and graduated Harvard -- a good U.S. education indeed! Does anybody know where Mr. Huckabee was educated?

I heard Obama with my oun ears say that he was born in Kenya, His wife and his grandmother also stated the same. Where you guys are getting your information is incorect. Are the Obama's lieing about His birth? The Ambasador to Kenya was interviewed and he stated that he was proud America would elect a person borned in Kenya. If this were not so Obama would proudly show his birth certificate.

This is a simple matter of Huckabee lying about Obama to gain votes from the xenophobes that form part of his base. He probably thought that because he had defended Michelle ealier that week, he could lie about Obama and no one would care. Why should I trust a politician who lies and slanders?

Does Hucksterbee think the Brits weren't imperialists? Why does he think they called themselves the British Empire? He's joking, right? Maybe he should ask an Irish person. Or an Indian. Or hell, a Canadian.

It is unfair to label Huckabee as a nutcase. This reminds me of when Ronald Reagan was accused of being racist. Reagan used racist rhetoric to get the racist vote, but he was not actually racist himself. In this case, Huckabee is spouting Birther/Glen Beck type nonsense to shore up support from ignorant, narrow-minded right wingers, not because he actually believes it himself.

What you put out in your post was an assortment of decades of the mindnumbing dronins fo Birchers like old, addled Cleon Skousen who were warning us of the same out-there-beyond-Pluto conspiracies of an impending international communist conspiracy to take over the entire galaxy any moment now.
Look. You are a nut. I have been listening to bulging eyed crackpots like you all my life of almost 70 years. As a Vietnam vet, I know full well that your heroes--Limbaugh, and the odd assortment of draft dodgers that talk so macho about war--went to their draft boards blubbering lie children carrying in had a goblolley of medical and legal and educational deferments that kept their cowardly behinds safe at home while liberals fought and died for their right to belch out this silly, unbelievable claptrap they are all so into."
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Hey Jaxass70, I just saw a commercial for some shyster ambulance chaser that says he can get you in on a class action settlement if you smoked Cambodian Red and were exposed to Agent Orange at the same time - it's a lethal combination.

Saying stupid things or making statements that are clearly incorrect has proven very effective in attracting contributions from the vocal and organized fringe element of the Republican Party. The strategy extends beyond the "tea party" to groups that are classified as anarchists, segregationists, and all other “hate” groups.

Conversation with so called 'nice' conservative and a 'Christian' pastor.

His obvious falsehood of Obama growing up in Kenya stands for everyone to see and everyone will focus on that. However I want to point to the disgraceful fall of the neo-conservative ideology. They always proclaim the love of the American revolution and end of British empire in America. However they now have decided that no other society or nation in the world had the right to fight British colonialism! Kenyan independence fighters were terrorists or let me use the word 'haters' but our own fight was glorious.

Conservative arguments used to be intellectually much more robust and coherent in the past. They never historically supported colonialism. What else can you expect when you are forced to cater to the lowest common denominator of ignorance in the Tea Party movement.

Mr Huckabee your comment, 'he probably grew up hearing that the British were a bunch of imperialists who persecuted his grandfather' smacks of intellectual ineptitude at best but plain, simple racism at worst. To suggest that Kenyans were not capable of formulating the argument against British colonialism without hating British people displays your racism - nothing else.

this president campaigned like he was going to govern this nation as a middle slightly left president.he claimed his administration would be different than all the rest with character and dignity.well, we all know now that he lied about 90% of his claims.he said no more lobbyists that was a joke. he said any dealings with congress would be on cspan.that was a travesty.they not only didnt televise it they never even asked the republicans to come to the meetings.then they shoved lots of leftwing socialist legislation down the republicans throat and the people of this nations throat.even though thousands upon thousands protested.the lamestream media wouldnt report about this mans ties to terrorists and the best one.the one story of the obama family attending a church for over 20 yrs. a church that preaches racism and the pure hatred of the usa.a man does not expose his wife and children to this for most of their lives and not believe it.this man doesnt attend church.if he was a true christian why wouldnt he attend church regularly?one would need and ask for gods help.he is an aetheist or a muslim.why wont he release the proof of birth or citizenship?why has he enacted policies that have destroyed our economy?his dept. of justice has been a farce.we have racism against whites now. the black panther blocking voters was ridicules yet the doj did nothing.this whitehouse stinks to high heaven of corruption.obviously one cannot get all of the criminal and unethical acts that are occurring on this blog. so, remember that the american people have awakened. they are watching all of you.all of you socialist and wannabe communists. we are watching and most of us have been sworn to protect and defend the constitution.we wont let the constitution fall. all the elitist liberals and socialists who look down their noses at the average american and think we all are hillbillys and stupid. at least we will be ready when obama crashes this economy and the dollar crashes.we are preparing daily are you?the reason the democrats and liberals and the media hate palin and huckaby and the rest of the gop candidates are they tell it how it is. they tell the truth.that tears the butt out of the liberals.life was good when reagan was president and the world feared us.now, we are laughed at and almost destroyed from within by liberalism. we no longer fear god.we have no morals.we have no character.we are greedy and are corrupted almost beyond repair.the dollar rules all.it is so sad.oh,and we murder 50 million babies a year.we all will be judged individually and we will be judged as a nation. may god help us and god bless america.

this president campaigned like he was going to govern this nation as a middle slightly left president.he claimed his administration would be different than all the rest with character and dignity.well, we all know now that he lied about 90% of his claims.he said no more lobbyists that was a joke. he said any dealings with congress would be on cspan.that was a travesty.they not only didnt televise it they never even asked the republicans to come to the meetings.then they shoved lots of leftwing socialist legislation down the republicans throat and the people of this nations throat.even though thousands upon thousands protested.the lamestream media wouldnt report about this mans ties to terrorists and the best one.the one story of the obama family attending a church for over 20 yrs. a church that preaches racism and the pure hatred of the usa.a man does not expose his wife and children to this for most of their lives and not believe it.this man doesnt attend church.if he was a true christian why wouldnt he attend church regularly?one would need and ask for gods help.he is an aetheist or a muslim.why wont he release the proof of birth or citizenship?why has he enacted policies that have destroyed our economy?his dept. of justice has been a farce.we have racism against whites now. the black panther blocking voters was ridicules yet the doj did nothing.this whitehouse stinks to high heaven of corruption.obviously one cannot get all of the criminal and unethical acts that are occurring on this blog. so, remember that the american people have awakened. they are watching all of you.all of you socialist and wannabe communists. we are watching and most of us have been sworn to protect and defend the constitution.we wont let the constitution fall. all the elitist liberals and socialists who look down their noses at the average american and think we all are hillbillys and stupid. at least we will be ready when obama crashes this economy and the dollar crashes.we are preparing daily are you?the reason the democrats and liberals and the media hate palin and huckaby and the rest of the gop candidates are they tell it how it is. they tell the truth.that tears the butt out of the liberals.life was good when reagan was president and the world feared us.now, we are laughed at and almost destroyed from within by liberalism. we no longer fear god.we have no morals.we have no character.we are greedy and are corrupted almost beyond repair.the dollar rules all.it is so sad.oh,and we murder 50 million babies a year.we all will be judged individually and we will be judged as a nation. may god help us and god bless america.

Sometimes Huckabee sounds like he's stupid. This is one of those times. He's reciting bigotry out of GlenBeckland. Obama was raised by his white Christian American mother and her white Christian American parents. On his mother's side he's got DAR roots. His father left his mother when Obama was an infant. After that Obama had one or two short visits with his father on American soil before the father died. Obama didn't know from Kenya until he was an adult.

On top of that, Obama's father was not part of the ethnic group/tribe that was part of the pre-WWI Mau Mau uprising in Kenya. What ignorant idiocy Huckabee spouts. I thought he was smarter than that.

castieb wrote: "The orthographically-challenged posters who insist on using inappropriate pseudonyms (e.g., Barry, Soetoro, Bam) for President Barack Obama need to grow up. Such partisan insults and mendacity posted as comments eventually backfire."
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Show me the legal papers stating that Mr. Soetoro legally changed his name back to the Bamster - either he won't or he can't...I'm just sayin'....

For Huckabee, Kenya, Indonesia, aren't they sort of the same country anyway? Loaded with Muslimoids. Hey Sarah could help him out. Tell him the difference between North and South Kenya. Talk about bottom of the trash heap. Even lower down then Newt.

Former President Ford was adopted as a child; no one had the stupidity and disrespect to use any other name to refer to him. The current batch of hate-mongers are a disgrace to our country. They have no credibility and should not be allowed to post their distortions on this site.

What an imbecile. REALLY.This is what the Republicans have as far as candidates for POTUS.It would make more sense to vote for someone like Dick Cheney or his daughter, whatever the heck her name is. Or even his wife ,whatever her name is.These folks make George Bush look like a visionary! REALLY.

The current group of yokels are truly laughable. The only policy they have is the same rehashed trickle down crap that didn't work when Reagan was in office.

Republicans are for big business over the American people and they are currently attempting to put hundreds of thousands of Americans on the streets. They're going to halt any economic recovery and then try to blame the results on Obama.

And now, Republican candidates are pandering to the worst of our society, just as they pandered to the religious right (then laughed in their faces when it was over) during the W's 8 years of wonder. You pander to filth, you become filth....

As far as the Harvard Law Review, please repost one single article with his as the byline - you can't because there are none. You don't find it odd that the editor of a prestigious publication never published a single article. The answer comes form the FACT that editors usually are reserved the privilege of addressing the most controversial of topics. Needless to say - the HLR is not going to give that task to this imbecile.

When you take your foot out of your mouth, you might want to check GOOGLE...not sure if you heard of that and type in "Harvard Law Review Obama". Look at what I found by doing just a little research:

First Black Elected to Head Harvard's Law Review
By FOX BUTTERFIELD, Special to The New York Times
Published: February 06, 1990

BOSTON, Feb. 5 — The Harvard Law Review, generally considered the most prestigious in the country, elected the first black president in its 104-year history today. The job is considered the highest student position at Harvard Law School.

The new president of the Review is Barack Obama, a 28-year-old graduate of Columbia University who spent four years heading a community development program for poor blacks on Chicago's South Side before enrolling in law school. His late father, Barack Obama, was a finance minister in Kenya and his mother, Ann Dunham, is an American anthropologist now doing fieldwork in Indonesia. Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.

''The fact that I've been elected shows a lot of progress,'' Mr. Obama said today in an interview. ''It's encouraging.

''But it's important that stories like mine aren't used to say that everything is O.K. for blacks. You have to remember that for every one of me, there are hundreds or thousands of black students with at least equal talent who don't get a chance,'' he said, alluding to poverty or growing up in a drug environment.

The Huckster knows his way around lying like a fallen preacher. This is from today's Politico and show how disingenuous the man really is. Mau Mau Revolution indeed! It is clear he said and meant Kenya regardless of his later explanations.

"Huckabee, a critic of the Obama administration and possible 2012 Republican presidential candidate, explained that he "meant to say Indonesia," not Kenya, in a conversation Monday with WOR Radio talk show host Steve Malzberg.

His statement said the New York Times and other media outlets "ran with the 'sensationalized story' despite being specifically told by Steve Malzburg himself that they were incorrect in their assessment of the sound bite."

Politics Daily, in its account of the interview, noted that Huckabee said Obama's upbringing in Kenya had apparently made the president anti-British -- the consequence of lingering resentment against British colonial rule in the 1950s.

"If you think about it, his perspective as growing up in Kenya, with a Kenyan father and grandfather, their view of the Mau Mau Revolution is very different than ours, because he probably grew up hearing that the British were a bunch of imperialists who persecuted his grandfather."

But substitute "Indonesia" for Kenya -- the slip of the tongue -- and Huckabee's remarks in context no longer make sense."

rooster54 writes
You don't know anything about me. I understand your arguments in more depth than you know exists. I grew up in a John Birch household. I reject that nonsense because I understand it very well. When I grew up I learned to think for myself, a prospect which scares people like you to death. The self reliant don't use public roads. The self reliant don't exist. Grow up. We work together trading value for value. Ayn Rand was an atheist dopehead from Russia, and the Koch brothers gained their wealth from public contracts. Their father worked for Stalin. Work creates wealth. Those who don't engage in the actual physical production of wealth have taken so much profit as to destroy the goose which lays the golden eggs. If taxes can kill jobs by taking to much, so can greedy capitalists. Grow up and give something of value in exchange for what you take. It' s not about getting over on the other guy. You guys aren't self reliant. You don't even pull your own weight
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rooster54, you grew up in a John Birch household ! What was that like ? Indoctrination, swearing of allegiance, delivering propaganda ,,, I seem to recall that Birch activities was rather deciduous ... perhaps yours were not ? You claim your thinking scares people ... how is that ? I would like to know. Was your home analogous to the Bastille or Robben Island. Did you look on yourself as imprisoned ? Were you forced to read Ayn Rand, along with what other authors ? You seem fixated on Koch Brothers ... what do you think of Geo Soros acquiring >$14½ Billion in the face of a progressive tax code with a top rate of 91% (FDR-Truman), 76% (Johnston), 50% (Kennedy) ... how do you think that was accomplished ? Have you heard of regulating 162m ? But I digress ! Talking about the means of production seems like the problem the General Secretary of Kampuchea was concerned with back in the mid - late '70's. I'm sure you are not thinking any thing along those lines. But enough of my eidetic meanderings. I still would like to hear more if you are so inclined, if not, thanks for the time

The orthographically-challenged posters who insist on using inappropriate pseudonyms (e.g., Barry, Soetoro, Bam) for President Barack Obama need to grow up.

Such partisan insults and mendacity posted as comments eventually backfire.

Huckabee is just another example of "foot-in-mouth" disorder characteristic of these hate-mongers.

For the record: President Obama was born in Hawaii, spent four years as a child in Indonesia, returned to Hawaii when he was about ten years old, was brought up by his American mother and grandparents, educated in US schools, attended Harvard where he was editor in chief of the Harvard Law Review. These are all verifiable facts.

Former President Ford was adopted as a child; no one had the stupidity and disrespect to use any other name to refer to him. The current batch of hate-mongers are a disgrace to our country. They have no credibility and should not be allowed to post their distortions on this site.

The orthographically-challenged posters who insist on using inappropriate pseudonyms (e.g., Barry, Soetoro, Bam) for President Barack Obama need to grow up.
The partisan insults and mendacity posted as comments eventually backfire.

Huckabee is just another example of "foot-in-mouth" disorder characteristic of these hate-mongers.

For the record: President Obama was born in Hawaii, spent four years as a child in Indonesia, returned to Hawaii when he was about ten years old, was brought up by his American mother and grandparents, educated in US schools, attended Harvard where he was editor in chief of the Harvard Law Review. These are all verifiable facts.

Former President Ford was adopted as a child; no one had the stupidity and disrespect to use any other name to refer to him. The current batch of hate-mongers are a disgrace to our country. They have no credibility and should not be allowed to post their distortions on this site.

If the Bible-thumping liar and Rupert Murdoch shill, Mike Huckabee is to gain the nomination of the do-nothing party of no, he will have to appeal to bigots, hatemongers and racist Tea Baggers. Huckabee's mispoken words have revealed him for the little bigot that he is.

However, if Mike Huckabee is to get out in front of Haley Barbour, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and the Wasilla quitter who hides behind Facebook and Twitter, he will have to sell himself as a died in the wool bloody-jawed racist birther bigot who burns with racist hate and spreads racist lies and racist stereotyes while he thumps a Bible and acts as Rupert Murdoch's bird-dog.

I usually do not waste my time on these boards, but after reviewing the comments to this ONE artical. I have become absoulety convinced that it is true most of these moronic boobs have no life and spout venom. Good Bye Mr. Obama in 2012.
We flushed the toliet in November 2010, but there is still a little waste floating in the commode.

Another misconcept is that Bam´s father was a "Muslim".... By birth, yes.. not by faith... and again "yes" he had more than one wife - Muslim rights.... - probable reason for Ann to scoot back to Hawaii and get rid of him... after she found out.. There are no records of the 2 living together in Hawaii when back from vacation with "gramma" Sarah in Kenya at the time Ann was "too far" in her term to fly back....
Even Lolo Soetoro (I spell his name the Dutch way) wasn´t a mat-praying Islamic.... 99.99% of Indonesians are neither.... too much Buddha !!... BoroBudur, Java.... and Barry did not attend a "Muslim"school but a regular (cost free) school for Indonesians (like in Dutch times) as Ann and Lolo could not afford the Catholic "nun" school in Benteng, Batavia(Djakarta).. reason why Lolo "adopted" Barry as his son so he could go to school in an "no cost" Indonesian school... Reason also why Ann couldn´t mix with the "white" Europeans in Djakarta... she was the wife of an Indonesian !!.... Reason again why she returned to Hawaii and left Lolo to himself...
From the GripeVine.... & Donah..//

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You don't know anything about me. I understand your arguments in more depth than you know exists. I grew up in a John Birch household. I reject that nonsense because I understand it very well. When I grew up I learned to think for myself, a prospect which scares people like you to death.

The self reliant don't use public roads. The self reliant don't exist. Grow up. We work together trading value for value.

Ayn Rand was an atheist dopehead from Russia, and the Koch brothers gained their wealth from public contracts. Their father worked for Stalin.

Work creates wealth. Those who don't engage in the actual physical production of wealth have taken so much profit as to destroy the goose which lays the golden eggs. If taxes can kill jobs by taking to much, so can greedy capitalists.

Grow up and give something of value in exchange for what you take. It' s not about getting over on the other guy. You guys aren't self reliant. You don't even pull your own weight.

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Right wing extremism is sustained by propaganda paid for with stolen wealth which was amassed and hoarded by refusing to pay the people whose labor produced it. This violates Christian principles and is truly unethical. Right wing ideology has become entrenched because its adherents refuse to grow up and accept reality. Children who get old blindly accepting outdated simplistic explainations for everything without improving their understanding become less and less capable of adapting to a changing world that is leaving them behind. They regress more and more into a primative fearful state such as we see in the Taliban. It's true they cling to guns and religion, because they are undeveloped chidren doomed to go around in circles until they grow old and die
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the above poster writes like the self-reliant do not exist. Every child grows up & works for a corporation receiving low pay & little else. He has a tirade against Capitalism & seems seeking minions. Has this poster never met a self-reliant individual ? He is one demotic conundrum.. one wonder about his internecine experiences

It's always such fun watching Repubs shoot themselves in their own feet...they don't even need any opponents. All the dems have to do is stand there and watch and not say a word. Huckleberry says what he means and means what he says. He'll be a great president--we might end up bombing Belgium, but hey he can just say "I misspoke!"

Yes.. it is true that Bam has no heart for the Brits.. he´d found out they "interrogated" his grampa for a number of hours.. contents of which is not for public scruteny... so we don´t know and neither does Bam why the Brits picked on his grampa.... All I "know !!" is that gramp was an Arab slave trader for the Brits.. they wouldn´t have used a Bantu or Massai or other negro from any African tribe.... The Brits used Arabs... !! That´s for all I know.. As for Bam´s own father, "gramma" Sarah (an African Luo) was not his blood gramma ... she was one of his Arab grampa´s 4 legal wives.. Bam´s real gramma (of Arab blood) died when Bam´s dad was still a young kid so Bam´s dad was fostered out to Sarah... one of the 4 most favored wives of Gramp.... But Bam´s father was the main "follow up Hussein", son of a very important man in British colonial times and was sent to "college"... Now take it from there... Bam has nó Negro features... but don´t take my "word"... I only found out thru my own "connections"... (don´t ask.. whatever was burried deep in the web has been lifted out since) years before Bam was elected Potus.. If any of you are very cosy with the Brits then you may get behind any truth and shed the hearsay.. I´ve said enough so it´s time for me to have a drink...
From the GripeVine.... & Donah..//

This is the "Latent idiosy" that's always plagued the 'Republican Party'. America does not need ignorant politicians projecting 'stupidity' in the world arena and ultimately, making foreign policy blunders that cost precious American lives, abroad. Stupidity and the act of excusing 'glaring idiosy' displayed by most of our republican politicians these days is becoming... ugly. The last inteligent republican president was Richard Nixon. Shamefully unbelievable!!!

Why? Because the hospital certificate is not considered or accepted as a legal document. It's given to the parents and is more ceremonial than legal. The legal document is issued by the state office of vital statistics, who maintain all records, of birth, marriage, divorce, abd death. Some hospitals do not even give a hospital certificate to the parents.

Right wing extremism is sustained by propaganda paid for with stolen wealth which was amassed and hoarded by refusing to pay the people whose labor produced it. This violates Christian principles and is truly unethical.

Right wing ideology has become entrenched because its adherents refuse to grow up and accept reality. Children who get old blindly accepting outdated simplistic explainations for everything without improving their understanding become less and less capable of adapting to a changing world that is leaving them behind. They regress more and more into a primative fearful state such as we see in the Taliban. It's true they cling to guns and religion, because they are undeveloped chidren doomed to go around in circles until they grow old and die.

Ain´t it abt time mr Huck stops stamping US Ami soil ??
Who needs a religious freak nincompoop to "remind us that "our" Potus grew up in Kenya or was born in Hawaii..??
Give Bam a break will ya... He´s got less than 2 more years and he´s shaping up - so I hear.. After Him.. who knows what´s in store for us.. but I for sure don´t need mr Huck.....
From the GripeVine.... & Donah..!!

Hey Bubbette1, From the misspellings and botched grammar you seem to be one of those scamming Nigerian princes trolling for money. Are you really from the US? If so, how did our wonderful education system fail you so miserably? Were you one of those children that got left behind? But, all is not lost my friend, please refrain from interjecting yourself in civil discourse of other good people and please take a remedial English course in a local community college, that is, if you are indeed from the US.

People if you want to denigrate someone on this issue you should call them a "vetter" and not a "birther". Obama was never vetted for the White House and slip through a loophole in the vetting system. I am sorry, but posting a photograph on the moveon website does not rise to the level of vetting.

Further, there is a legitimate question about the type of birth certificate Hawaii claims to be holding. Is it the type Obama's grandmother could have obtain while little Obama was in Kenya, or is it the type that the hospital where Obama claims to be born at would issue? The lax Hawaiian immigration laws were changed in 1972, and any birth certificates issued prior to that date are suspect because a Hawaiian resident could obtain a birth certification just on their signature.

Hilarious. Libs are so inane. Here was the one time they had an out on Obatdo's total and complete lack of competence, why he shows absolutely NO empathy for the poor or the American worker - but they blew it- turned it into an attack. Kinda makes him look even worse (like anyone could) than if he WAS raised in Kenya. Again I say - Carter and Qualye couldn't be happier! They're off the HOOK!!

Posted by: RobinK59 | March 2, 2011 7:36 AM | Report abuse

Whoever posted this is not reading the chain of comments in this forum. Hardly anyone agrees with you, so you must be one of those "birthers" or just plain brain dead!

@tigre1: I'd be more inclined to say that "stupid" is someone who believes something is so without authentic proof. A certificate generated by a state to anyone who asks for one is not considered authentic proof.

Which makes me wonder- do you believe every Nigerian, Kenyan, or British email you get stating you have received a zillion dollars and then give them your vote of confidence since the email was actually a real email. It is just the content that makes it a phoney.

the man was in the middle of running for president.... lib media said NOTHING.

just let this nonsense pass without rebuke.

Libs have NOTHING.

Posted by: docwhocuts
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That is because there was nothing to investigate. He meant to say that he had been to 47 states on the campaign. I would love to see how many minor mistakes you woud make while maintaining the grueling schedule President Obama did. ANYONE who is interested in the TRUTH can find it here:

the man was in the middle of running for president.... lib media said NOTHING.

just let this nonsense pass without rebuke.

Libs have NOTHING.

Posted by: docwhocuts
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That is because there was nothing to investigate. He meant to say that he had been to 47 states on the campaign. I would love to see how many minor mistakes you woud make while maintaining the grueling schedule President Obama did. ANYONE who is interested in the TRUTH can find it here:

I'm surprised. When Huckabee and I were going to B.S.1 Somalia, we used to joke all the time how we would someday ride the big raft to Amerika, learn English, and run for public office. He was always the stupidest kid in class, he never even learned to spell his name right! His tribal name is actually "Be-a-*uckee", and if you ever catch him pulling down his pants, like he does in the rectory after Sunday School? you can see the
tribal tattoos.

Too bad he's so stupid, isn't it? But as long as he hangs out with conservatives, nobody'll notice.

Huckabee's spokesman says Huckabee intended to say Indonesia rather than Kenya. How does that square with Huckabee's statements "having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, [is] very different than the average American. . . . growing up in Kenya with a Kenyan father and grandfather, their view of the Mau Mau Revolution in Kenya is very different than ours because he probably grew up hearing that the British were a bunch of imperialists who persecuted his grandfather."

Does Huckabee put the Mau Mau Revolution, Obama's grandfather, and British imperialists in Indonesia?

Does this guy take us for idiots? Oh, yeah, he is talking to the tea partiers.

With all of the problems facing this country, that folks like JohnJohnson1 is still obsessed with details that have been proven ad nauseaum. The rationale for not providing you with this information? The answer is that he has provided it over and over again to those who matter; you don't personally matter and he doesn't owe every kook out there an explanation. The State of Hawaii had received so many requests for his birth certificate that they finally had to stop honoring them because they were unable to keep up. I'm sure that there are plenty of sites that provide this information at this point. Try Google and find something else to busy yourself with.

yeahhhhhhhh hey teabirthers.....I guess you think you are smarter than the FBI and other national intelligence services, including the Secret Service, and the intelligence unit of the GOP which all gave PRESIDENT Obama a clean bill on his personal history.

yeahhhhhhhh hey teabirthers.....I guess you think you are smarter than the FBI and other national intelligence services, including the Secret Service, and the intelligence unit of the GOP which all gave PRESIDENT Obama a clean bill on his personal history.

the man was in the middle of running for president.... lib media said NOTHING.

just let this nonsense pass without rebuke.

Libs have NOTHING.

Posted by: docwhocuts
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That is because there was nothing to investigate. He meant to say that he had been to 47 states on the campaign. I would love to see how many minor mistakes you woud make while maintaining the grueling schedule President Obama did. ANYONE who is interested in the TRUTH can find it here:

Wow! Huckabee "misspoke." The tenor of his comment was that Obama was not raised in the context of American values and so did not absorb as we do by osmosis certain information and attitudes, which McCain born on an American army post, did. It is ingrained in Americans that there are 50 states, not 57. Where did Obama grow up? He is a foreigner by indoctrination if nothing else.

Why does Obama refuse to release his actual birth certificate showing the hospital where he was delivered, and the doctor who delivered him?

Why does Obama refuse to release his school records which might disclose just who paid for his college tuition. Was he provided tuition as a foreign national?

What is the rational for not providing this information? Hmm. If the information supports contentions concerning his eligibility to hold office, then there is none. I would appreciate someone who could present a rational for non-disclosure.

All that said, the Governor is a nice guy. But he and Obama seem to both lack the intellect and background necessary to serve well in the office. That is regrettable. Gingrich is "smart enough," but he is damaged goods. It appears as if Romney would do as good a job as anyone on the horizon.He's experienced, smart, and has a positive and non-malicious disposition.

Parenthetically, I don't view Obama's oratory and method of delivery of speeches as extraordinarily good or even satisfactory. His staccato delivery seems stilted and offputting. It wouldn't be worthy of mention if somehow his performance were not projected as great communication. It's the same as the media presenting Mrs. Obama as stylish and fashionable and beautiful. Her public appearance is a demonstration of couturier's skill, but she is a singularly unattractive and bottom-heavy woman reflecting steatopygia in her lineage. Most of us may not be demonstrations of beauty and splendor, but don't shove such misperceptions regarding attributes of public figures in our faces as somehow being reality. Remember that "The Emperor Wore No Clothes." Good grief. Get real.

the man was in the middle of running for president.... lib media said NOTHING.

just let this nonsense pass without rebuke.

Libs have NOTHING.

Posted by: docwhocuts
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That is because there was nothing to investigate. He meant to say that he had been to 47 states on the campaign. I would love to see how many minor mistakes you woud make while maintaining the grueling schedule President Obama did. ANYONE who is interested in the TRUTH can find it here:

There is so much vitriol, hatred, ignorance and misinformation flying about in the comments section that it might be better in future to not have a comments section for articles like this. It just encourages people to make fools of themselves.

Why in the world does You Guys continue to go down this road? Lets assume for the sake of argument that President Obama was born in Kenya.
At som point in time during his 48 years on earth he would have had to become a US Citizen like so many Millions of foreign residents. Dont you think that by now after races for the State Senate and the US Senate his records would have been Scubbed to look for any incriminating documents. Its not like his name is John Joseph Roberts Barack Obama jumps off the page,
Now if he was not Naturalized at any point in time then he is an Illegal resident. In order to become a Senator and President he would have to have gotten Security Clearance dont you think they would have uncovered something by now.
And even if he was born in Kenya he is far superior intellectually than many of the Politicans and writers to this post wwho are stil
questioning his birth place.
What its boils down to in my opinion is that many of you just refuse to accept the legitamacy of a Black Man as President. He is more accomplished that the last President. Harvard Law and Columbia--a much better speaker and a much deeper thinker. So for many of you to continue to beat this drum that he no American --Not one of us , some how not legitamate is a bunch of you know wht. An you guys know better
you are just trying to keep the flames fanned to appeal to the dodo birds to refuse to think for them selves.

Huckabee- another idiot repub that needs to resign......the fact is the best outcome for WE THE PEOPLE would be for all representatvies and senators and justices to resign and a benevolent dictator to take control...much as the one in Canada- they don't have a border problem, they don't invade sovereign countries and they don't have financial criminals such as the banksters and wall streeters and those colluders in the government as well....

the man was in the middle of running for president.... lib media said NOTHING.

just let this nonsense pass without rebuke.

Libs have NOTHING.

Posted by: docwhocuts
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That is because there was nothing to investigate. He meant to say that he had been to 47 states on the campaign. I would love to see how many minor mistakes you woud make while maintaining the grueling schedule President Obama did. ANYONE who is interested in the TRUTH can find it here:

Why, then, did Obama write on his app for financial aid that he was a foreign student? Occidental College released that doc, so Google it. At a minimum, fraud associated with getting financial aid. Oh wait, I must be a crazy right-winger.

Posted by: RB1019 | March 2, 2011 8:11 AM

The article was dated on April 1, 2009. It was an April Fools Joke. The scholarship is only given for Doctor's or Master Degree. I do not think he got his graduate degree in Occidental.

Why, then, did Obama write on his app for financial aid that he was a foreign student? Occidental College released that doc, so Google it. At a minimum, fraud associated with getting financial aid. Oh wait, I must be a crazy right-winger.

Posted by: RB1019 | March 2, 2011 8:11 AM

The article was dated on April 1, 2009. It was an April Fools Joke. The scholarship is only given for Doctor's or Master Degree. I do not think he got his graduate degree in Occidental.

Why, then, did Obama write on his app for financial aid that he was a foreign student? Occidental College released that doc, so Google it. At a minimum, fraud associated with getting financial aid. Oh wait, I must be a crazy right-winger.

Posted by: RB1019 | March 2, 2011 8:11 AM

The article was dated on April 1, 2009. It was an April Fools Joke. The scholarship is only given for Doctor's or Master Degree. I do not think he got his graduate degree in Occidental.

Why, then, did Obama write on his app for financial aid that he was a foreign student? Occidental College released that doc, so Google it. At a minimum, fraud associated with getting financial aid. Oh wait, I must be a crazy right-winger.

Posted by: RB1019 | March 2, 2011 8:11 AM

The article was dated on April 1, 2009. It was an April Fools Joke. The scholarship is only given for Doctor's or Master Degree. I do not think he got his graduate degree in Occidental.

...So far the only public confirmation of Obama's citizenship is the "short form" birth certificate from Hawaii. In case you don't know, at that time, any child born any where in the world to an american citizen (adult) and brought to Hawaii could obtain a (short form) birth certificate for that child...
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Even IF what you say is true (it isn't), then President Obama would STILL be a natural born US citizen. That designation does not REQUIRE the child be born in America (President Obama WAS) and long as one of his parents was an American citizen. In any case, the short form carries the same legal weight as the long form. And it states that he was born in Hawaii. Case Closed.

You apparently don't have a problem with the FACT that John McCain was born in the Panama Canal.

Keep spouting your drug induced hallucinations. It just gives the rest of us more proof of your ignorance.

That is some first-class stupidity you posted there. The issue has been settled, repeatedly: Obama was born is Hawaii, a US state. I know you birthers always claim that all you want is proof, but we all know the truth: we could have videotaped evidence, with testimonials from Christ himself, and you still wouldn't believe it. You don't want proof, all you want is controversy.

That is some first-class stupidity you posted there. The issue has been settled, repeatedly: Obama was born is Hawaii, a US state. I know you birthers always claim that all you want is proof, but we all know the truth: we could have videotaped evidence, with testimonials from Christ himself, and you still wouldn't believe it. You don't want proof, all you want is controversy.

If the entire point of Huckster's comment was to claim that Obama was overly British, then he shows glaring ignorance on history and geography. Indonesia was a Dutch colony, never a British one. If Obama had a displaced loyalty due to his couple of years in Indonesia when he wasn't living in the US state of Hawai'i, then it would be to Queen Beatrix, not to Queen Elizabeth II.

Of course we know the entire crux of the speech was to imply that Obama isn't a "real American", but some furrener that we should fear rather than trust.

I guess we can just lump Huckster in with Gov Goodhair, who have 10 years as Governor of Texas thinks Juarez is in the US, not Mexico.

@ mascmen7
The founding fathers despised democracy because of people like you. They wanted a Republic in which only worthy people were allowed to vote. After seeing your comment, I have to agree with our Founding Fathers. You are too incredibly stupid to even be trusted to tie your own shoelaces, much less vote or even make a comment. Crawl back to your cave.

And we have been thinking Sarah Palin was going to be the winner of "The Dumbest Republican who wants to be President". Now we have a new leader in Mike Huckabee. Maybe he will soon tell us he could see Kenya from his backyard.

I really don't know what to make of this. Is it ignorance and stupidity? Hard to believe that a former Governor and Presidential candidate would not know about the President's background and upbringing in Hawaii and Indonesia. Was it deliberate then, designed to win over that 51% of Republican primary voters who think the President was born elsewhere? Surely, though, he would know that his deliberate misstatements would be uncovered. At least you would think so. You really have to question the bona fides of a candidate who could make such a blatantly stupid remark.

If you want to see Obama's Kenyan birth certificates go to http://catholicbook.com near top of home page. Huckabee was mistaken as Barack left Kenya 4 days after his birth as his mom took him to Honolulu and after a few years married an Indonesian so moved Barack to Indonesia. Barack's official name on his Kenyan birth certificates is Barack Hussein Obama II. Later Barack was trained by the Russian Academy of Sciences to be a communist and atheist which Russians revealed in 1992. Barack is an excellent communist as he has destroyed our finances and weakened our missile defenses and military.

Even his assistant's comment that he misspoke has a ring of falsehood to it. If I believed that he said "Kenya" when he meant "Indonesia", that would be one thing, but then suppose that is true, then the governor is really showing his lack of knowledge because he would be saying the MauMau urising took place in Indonesia which is a long way from where it actually happened. Incidently, exactly what is the problem with an anti-British anti colonialism attitude? Wasn't that behind such things as the Declaration of Independence. Now if aa Democrat said that, the Republicans would claim they were anti-American for not supporting the American Revolution. What then must be said about Huckabee?

Clearly the apology is a made up thing and the governor is doing what so many Fox broadcasters do, putting a phony spin on something to minimize damage. And as usual, one doing so digs himsef into a deeper hole.

Obama was born 8/4/61 at Coast Provincial General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya after his mother triggered labor pains by swimming at a Mombasa beach trying to cool off after attending a Muslim festival in Mombasa with her husband and his mother Sarah Obama. Four days later mom took Barack to Honolulu and on August 12 completed a Certificate of Live Birth in Honolulu which triggered two newspaper announcements of Barack's birth listing his maternal grandparents address as his address. A few years later his mother married an Indonesian and moved Barack to Indonesia where he attended a Catholic school but took Muslim religious instruction at the school.

Apart from his mistakes regarding Obama's personal history, he also misrepresented the Mau Mau uprising. He suggests, first of all, that Americans have a different view of it than do Kenyans. I'd be very surprised if more than 1% of Americans know anything at all about it. Second, he implies that the British did not in fact brutally suppress the Mau Mau, and that this erroneous idea is something only Kenyans, having received this myth orally from their elders, could hold. But the brutal British suppression of the Mau Mau, involving guilt by association, incarceration without trial, torture, murder and assassination are well documented by scholars. One such documentation is the excellent book "Imperial reckoning : the untold story of Britain's gulag in Kenya", by Caroline Elkins. Oh, yeah: Then there are the demeaning colonial conditions under which Kenyans lived while the Brits ran the country, which gave rise to the Mau Mau rebellion in the first place.

Huckabee is a dangerous anti-intellectual know-nothing, as are all politicians who believe literally in the non-existent magic of religion-- be it Islam, Christianity, Judaism or Buddhism.

Apart from his mistakes regarding Obama's personal history, he also misrepresented the Mau Mau uprising. He suggests, first of all, that Americans have a different view of it than do Kenyans. I'd be very surprised if more than 1% of Americans know anything at all about it. Second, he implies that the British did not in fact brutally suppress the Mau Mau, and that this erroneous idea is something only Kenyans, having received this myth orally from their elders, could hold. But the brutal British suppression of the Mau Mau, involving guilt by association, incarceration without trial, torture, murder and assassination are well documented by scholars. One such documentation is the excellent book "Imperial reckoning : the untold story of Britain's gulag in Kenya", by Caroline Elkins. Oh, yeah: Then there are the demeaning colonial conditions under which Kenyans lived while the Brits ran the country, which gave rise to the Mau Mau rebellion in the first place.

Huckabee is a dangerous anti-intellectual know-nothing, as are all politicians who believe literally in the non-existent magic of religion-- be it Islam, Christianity, Judaism or Buddhism.

Huckabee specifically talked about Obama growing up in Kenya and hearing about the Mau Mau revolt against the Brits. How could that possibly have been just inadvertently using "Kenya" rather than "Indonesia". Last I checked there was no Mau Mau revolt against the Brits in Indonesia.

Huckabee was either deliberately lying or just making it up as he went in the interviewing and saying whatever he thought would make Obama look bad. And the response from his aide is a joke. You can't talk specifically about Mau Mau revolts against the Brits and then say "Oh, I really meant Indonesia and I just said Kenya by mistake." What a load of BS.

This nonsense has always been a smokescreen for the growing awareness of the fact that the current president continues to conceal virtually the entire paper trail of his existence in a tight shroud of secrecy.

It had become customary in postwar modern times for presidential candidates to allow for the release and scrutiny of the substantive body of their personal records and credentials, indeed up until 2008 in large measure because of a strong interest from the mainstream media.

The appearance of Barack Hussein Obama upon the national political scene changed that dynamic, and he received an astonishing special exception from this traditional practice.

In their eagerness to "make history" by covering the campaign of the man whom they were clearly very interested in helping to become the first black president, the mainstream media forgot their essential national responsibility, namely to report on significant events with thoroughness and impartial objectivity. They ignored their duty to search for the truth and should be regarded with disdain by all people who value information in a free society.

Democratic incumbents at all levels of government, as well as rank and file voters, might well demand to know exactly how Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and the rest of their party leadership allowed a person who was obviously given only the most cursory sort of vetting to become their presidential nominee.

It is certainly true that there have been a few occasions when postwar presidential candidates have been evasive or less than completely forthcoming in meeting the expectations of the American voters for an honest accounting of their past.

The medical records of JFK were allegedly sanitized to delete his diagnosis of Addison's disease and history of treatments for STD related maladies. The financial records of LBJ were allegedly altered to conceal the extent of his business ownerships and investment holdings. The national guard service records of W were allegedly missing or incomplete regarding his attendance and compliance with certain standard regulations.

All of these instances pale in comparison with the astounding unprecedented totality of secrecy that guards practically every original record and document from the entire past of the current president.

Also, can we just say "Huckabee lied" instead of this mealy-mouthed "claimed inaccurately" bullcrap? He lied. He knows full well that Obama is a native-born US citizen who never grew up in Kenya, and he lied. Plain and simple. "Got his facts wrong," no, he lied.

We should be more concerned about how Huckabee was born and raised. He is a preacher man and we know how they use religious to get their way. They are very deceptive.

I would suggest it is his religious up bring that influences his opinion. So is his religion worthy of being considered a proper view. I suggest not. The religions divide and are divisive in their belief. Their history to the present day has not been respectable to say the least. Religions fail because of their false premise that they have built their view upon. The religions continue to state that there is some magical man or supernatural being that has made some rules for mankind. They say that the magical being, God, has said all sorts of things. They do this with not even one small thread of evidence and without any logic or reason to support their claim. Some even say there is this other magical being, the devil that controls all the other people that don’t believe in their God. This absurd nonsense is certainly not a good philosophy for a presidential position. With today’s knowledge obtained through the sciences with logic and reason we can certainly find a better person than the Huckster to run for president.

So don’t worry so much about where the Huckabee was born but what he would do if elected president. Mr. Huckabee, is no defender of people’s freedoms. He is only a defender of the religious, holier than thou attitude. He would not make a good candidate for the office of president or for that matter any office that represents people. He is deceptive and cunning not presidential. He should go back to preaching the choir.

We should be more concerned about how Huckabee was born and raised. He is a preacher man and we know how they use religious to get their way. They are very deceptive.

I would suggest it is his religious up bring that influences his opinion. So is his religion worthy of being considered a proper view. I suggest not. The religions divide and are divisive in their belief. Their history to the present day has not been respectable to say the least. Religions fail because of their false premise that they have built their view upon. The religions continue to state that there is some magical man or supernatural being that has made some rules for mankind. They say that the magical being, God, has said all sorts of things. They do this with not even one small thread of evidence and without any logic or reason to support their claim. Some even say there is this other magical being, the devil that controls all the other people that don’t believe in their God. This absurd nonsense is certainly not a good philosophy for a presidential position. With today’s knowledge obtained through the sciences with logic and reason we can certainly find a better person than the Huckster to run for president.

So don’t worry so much about where the Huckabee was born but what he would do if elected president. Mr. Huckabee, is no defender of people’s freedoms. He is only a defender of the religious, holier than thou attitude. He would not make a good candidate for the office of president or for that matter any office that represents people. He is deceptive and cunning not presidential. He should go back to preaching the choir.

Mr. Huckabee now claims he "mis-spoke." Okay. But it obvisouly was not a "slip of the tongue." Even the most brilliant minds take more than a few seconds to work through the This/Then/Therefore scenario.

So, what was it he "mis-spoke" about?

He hasn't been living in a vacuum for the last few years.

I simply don't understand where his comments came from. Can someone explain?

Mr. Huckabee now claims he "mis-spoke." Okay. But it obvisouly was not a "slip of the tongue." Even the most brilliant minds take more than a few seconds to work through the This/Then/Therefore scenario.

So, what was it he "mis-spoke" about?

He hasn't been living in a vacuum for the last few years.

I simply don't understand where his comments came from. Can someone explain?

I can't say for certain that Gov. Huckabee lied, but his spokesman, Hogan Gidley certainly did so as the Mau Maus were in Kenya, NOT in Indonesia. For that matter, the colonial power in Indonesia was not Britain, but the Netherlands.

Your view of what is true seems to be what you want to be true. In other words, wanting it makes it true. Thankfully for most Americans what is true is based on solid fact, whether we like or want the fact or not.

True the left doth protest to much...this great country, the United States of America was founded on Godly principles, and will only remain great if we keep them. The left do not know God, acknowledge God, understand God or God's ways and therefore do not truely know and understand "good" and consequently pervert all that is good (and remain clueless all the while and assigning their ignorance to others).
If the office of the President of the United States of America requires certification of the potential holder of that office to show proof (public) that they are a US citizen, then they should, no ifs, ands or butts.
So far the only public confirmation of Obama's citizenship is the "short form" birth certificate from Hawaii. In case you don't know, at that time, any child born any where in the world to an american citizen (adult) and brought to Hawaii could obtain a (short form) birth certificate for that child. However, there would be no "long form" birth certificate which specifally states that the child was actually "born" in the state (Hawaii). Obama to-date has not produced a Hawaiian long form birth certificate to the citizens of this country and shame on him. Follow the law and meet the requirements if you want to hold the office.
The terms "liberal" and "democrat" both have changed meaning significantly throughout America's history, what is relevant is what is stands for currently. For you liberals that advocate socialism in America, stop trashing my great country and go live in one of the countless socialist countries throughout the world that I'm sure can greatly benefit by your contributions. Us conservatives LIKE and want to keep (while we are still a democratic republic where majority is supposed to rule (not w/ the Healthcare bill)what our founding fathers contrived for America, we respect the men and women who have fought and given their lives for those very principles, so for those of you who do not appreciate this wonderful country for what she is, please please please go offer your talents elsewhere in the world, America does not want you and mostly she does not need you.

Look. The birthers, the Birchers, and the comic assortment of nutgoobers on the right who want to de-legitimize this decent, honorable President are pretty much like the OJ jury in theior mental outlook. One could put the birth certificate right in their face and they would close their eyes, put their hands over their ears and make la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la to avoid hearing or seeing the truth. They know Obama is an American citizen. They know he never set foot in Kenya until he was an adult. They just want so badly to believe that this President just can't be one of us because of the color of his skin that it blinds and deafens them to any version of a truth that does not portray Obama as some sort of sinister "other".

No matter your political affiliation, the level of fact-ti-tude, and actually, pure normal rationality has dropped to frightening levels.

I'm still reeling over Tennessee's little shot over the bow today. Really? Banning certain tenets of the Muslim faith? The fact that such a law is actually given a good chance at passing is stunning. The fact that its purpose is given any credence by normally rational people is beyond stunning.

Anyway. Can we maybe start, oh, fact checking? Can we start to check our emotional baggage at the door when we discuss the future of this great nation?

Huckabee may know a few things, but he doesn't know everything; and most importantly, he doesn't know then to keep his mouth shut. A fault that he shares with Joe Biden, and which basically disqualifies him as a viable candidate for President.

What you put out in your post was an assortment of decades of the mindnumbing dronins fo Birchers like old, addled Cleon Skousen who were warning us of the same out-there-beyond-Pluto conspiracies of an impending international communist conspiracy to take over the entire galaxy any moment now.

Well, here we are over half a century later and you gnat brains on the far right are still issuing the same lame warning. Since the days of McCarthy and the Birch Society frantically warning us, do you realize how many generations of young Americans have held Mock United Nations scenarios in their international politics classes and then gone on to work profitably in the free markets of the world within systems you would consider socialist, and the world did not suddenly turn into the sinister, one world order you have been breathlessly warning us about?

Look. You are a nut. I have been listening to bulging eyed crackpots like you all my life of almost 70 years. As a Vietnam vet, I know full well that your heroes--Limbaugh, and the odd assortment of draft dodgers that talk so macho about war--went to their draft boards blubbering lie children carrying in had a goblolley of medical and legal and educational deferments that kept their cowardly behinds safe at home while liberals fought and died for their right to belch out this silly, unbelievable claptrap they are all so into.

As a moderate conservative, one of the things that I find most annoying about all forms of discourse in DC these days is the problem that most politicians don't seem to know the pertinent facts before they offer advice, commentary, or policy suggestions.

As a moderate Democrat, I have had respect for Mike Huckabbe and many of the practical things that he has spoken in the past. The simple truth is the FOX noise corrupts even the best. I would prefer to believe that Huckabee needs to flee from the grasp of FOX if he wants to salvage any of his reputation. Talk about Kool Aid.

This misspeaking thing is a joke. Explain the verbal faux pas away with this excuse. And Huckabee wants to be President.

Personally, the U.S. Constitution makes no mention about where a person grew up. It has something to say about birth location. John McCain was NOT born in the United States of America. Yet, the Democrats do not make noise about it. So what gives with the Republicans and their obsession with Obama's birthplace and so forth? Could it be that it all boils down to the name, Barack Hussein Obama? Prejudice talks when one has the obsession with a person's name.

Hi IowaLad. At March 2, 2011 10:19 AM you wrote in part, echoing the beliefs of other "birthirs":

"Unlike any repeat any prior President of the United States, the American citizen today has no confirmed and legal idea of where Obama was born. The State of Hawaii can't or won't even produce a certificate of birth for Obama certified by a doctor, a midwife, or the medical facility where the birth occurred. Much of Obama's personal bio remains a mystery, ..."

Have you considered that the Clintons, who were obviously extremely eager that Hillary win the Democratic nomination, and who were both attorneys, did not challenge the Obama candidacy on this ground? Don't you think they checked out his birth and realized it was in the US?

Have you considered that the Republican Party, obviously well armed with legal talent and aggressive to the point of ruthlessness, did not challenge the Obama candidacy either?

You are not correct about the birth certificate. It has been produced and authenticated. I have seen a copy in a TV broadcast.

Your belief that the President's story is not well documented is quite amazing in view of the facts. Among other sources, try reading the President's books, such as "The Audacity of Hope." You can check out statements he makes in public sources that he did and does not control.

If Mike Huckabee merely made a mistake in saying "Kenya" rather than "Indonesia" (a very common mistake indeed), then why did he use the Mau-Mau uprising as an example of Obama's upbringing?
Neither the Mau-Mau tribesmen nor (apparently) Mike Huckabee could find Indonesia on a map of Indonesia.
He said what he said and he meant what he said. Issuing a staement through a staff member, trying to weasel ot of it make is just that much worse.

@jaxass: "is it a crime to be liberal?"
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++You just might be a liberal, if you think that:
1. the US should be subservient to the United Nations - our highest authority is not God and the US Constitution, but a collective of tinpot dictators and their appeasers
2. calls for increased security after a terrorist attack are “political opportunism,” but calls for more gun control after a criminal’s spree killing is “a logical solution”
3. “It Takes a Village” does not mean creeping socialist government involvement in the nuclear family
4. disarming innocent, law-abiding citizens helps protect them from evil, lawless thugs
5. slowly killing an unborn innocent by tearing it apart limb from limb is GOOD, slowly killing an innocent disabled woman by starving her to death is GOOD, but quickly killing terrorists, convicted murderers and rapists is BAD
6. minorities are blameless for the hatred of racists, women are blameless for the hatred of sexists, but America is entirely at fault for the hatred of Islamofascists
7. socialized medicine is the ideal goal, regardless of all those people who spend every dime they have to get to the United States so they can get the quality medical care that their nation’s socialized health care can’t provide
8. any president who lies under oath is okay, but a president who references sixteen words from an allies’ intelligence report should be dragged through the streets naked
9. “the People” in the First, Fourth, Ninth, and Tenth Amendments means “the People,” but “the People” in the Second Amendment (ratified in 1791) means the National Guard (created by Congress in 1903)
10. a woman has a “right to choose” to kill her unborn child, but don’t believe that same woman is competent enough to home school the children she bears
11. everyone must unquestioningly support a junior senator with negligible political experience and traceable personal history for president - ‘cause, like, if you don’t, well...dude, you’re a racist!
12. being against illegal immigration is racist, regardless of the fact that "illegal" isn't listed as a race category on the census form
13. global warming is caused by humans burning fossil fuels, which is why the last Ice Age ended a mere 10,000 years before the invention of the internal combustion engine
14. Congress must create a “Fairness Doctrine” to counter the commercial success of conservative talk radio, regardless of the fact that we already have a government-subsidized liberal mouthpiece called National Public Radio
15. the pseudoscience of "global warming" must be unquestioningly accepted because so many scientists say it's real, regardless of the fact that 25 years ago the same scientists said we were headed for a catastrophic ice age, and 50 years ago they said that Caucasians were genetically superior

As an Independent who firmly supports the President, I consider former Governor Huckabee one of the better Republican leaders. I especially admire his support of cancer research and his appreciation of the health burden that cancer creates. I also admire his disease prevention activities and commitment.

However, it is a great disappointment to learn that he knows so little about the President's background, about "where the President is coming from" in a literal sense. While his spokesperson passed off the mistake as simply a speaking error, Governor Huckabee's reference to the Mau Mau uprising clearly showed this was more than just a speaking gaffe.

A key leadership quality is being able to listen attentively to political opponents and to learn about them with understanding and insight. Governor Huckabee appears to lack this quality, despite many other admirable traits.

Huckabee's spokesman, Hogan Gidley - Hogan Gidley? Hogan wants to know what Pres. Obama wants to do to this country. Do to this country? What kind of a question is that? Let me just say that what ever has been done to this country was done by the last Bush administration and its corporate cronies. It will take another ten years for the U.S. to recover from the stunning arrogance and incompetence of Bush, Cheyney and Rumsfeld.
The American voter needs to reject any politician who uses devisive language, half truths and manipulation of the facts to appeal to the most ignorant and base instincts of the electorate. We are rapidly reaching a point where the federal and state governments cannot solve the tremendous problems facing us.

Unlike any repeat any prior President of the United States, the American citizen today has no confirmed and legal idea of where Obama was born. The State of Hawaii can't or won't even produce a certificate of birth for Obama certified by a doctor, a midwife, or the medical facility where the birth occurred. Much of Obama's personal bio remains a mystery, or at least has never been made public for the American people. Just because an official government statement is made, but without substantiating background or evidencem, it does not mean we, the American people, tax payers, and legal citizens, have to accept controversial statements as being accurate and true, especially when the subject himself seems just a tad more than unresponsive and vague on his own bio issues. What is going on in this situation is probably very unconstitutional to say the least. This American citizen and taxpayer supports openly conducted fact and truth finding efforts in this matter to include a complete and verified geneaological history of the individual involved, plus certified and verified educational records,

Unlike any repeat any prior President of the United States, the American citizen today has no confirmed and legal idea of where Obama was born. The State of Hawaii can't or won't even produce a certificate of birth for Obama certified by a doctor, a midwife, or the medical facility where the birth occurred. Much of Obama's personal bio remains a mystery, or at least has never been made public for the American people. Just because an official government statement is made, but without substantiating background or evidencem, it does not mean we, the American people, tax payers, and legal citizens, have to accept controversial statements as being accurate and true, especially when the subject himself seems just a tad more than unresponsive and vague on his own bio issues. What is going on in this situation is probably very unconstitutional to say the least. This American citizen and taxpayer supports openly conducted fact and truth finding efforts in this matter to include a complete and verified geneaological history of the individual involved, plus certified and verified educational records,

"Governor Huckabee simply misspoke when he alluded to President Obama growing up in 'Kenya.' The Governor meant to say the President grew up in Indonesia."

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NO ... Huckabee said EXACTLY what he meant to say. He didn't misspeak. He made reference to President Obama having grown up in Kenya TWICE. I could NOT have a job where I have to lie to cover up for someone else.

In running for cover the Huckabee camp claimed that their man simply misspoke and meant Indonesia instead of Kenya. This coverup of a lie makes little sense for the point about Obama's views of Britain. As I recall, Indonesia was not colonized by Britain.

Hickabee says he wants to know where Obama's "liberal" policies come from. Think about that asinine statement. He talks about liberalism as though it is criminal. In fact, Liberalism has a far longer tradition in America than this current brand of illegitimate conservatism which is more akin to nihilism.

The Founding Fathers were the liberals of their day. In fact, Friedrich Hakek--the author of the modern conservative movement's handbook, THE ROAD TO SERFDOM--actually referred to the Founders as Classical Liberals. The essence of Classical Liberalism is incorporated into the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights.

This new, more radical brand of conservatism is not really conservatism at all but Nihilism posturing as conservatism. One of the primary elements of Nihilism is that there is no objective truth and that truth is subjective. Indeed, utilizing the Nihilists' on the right's subjective methodology for determining the truth of a thing, one could still make a case that the earth is at the center of our solar system. Or that the earth is flat. Or that the moon landing was a hoax. Or that Obama is a Kenyan Muslim out to establish a world wide caliphate.

Teabaggers... what a nutty bunch.
You don't need facts.
You don't need an education.
You can freely mix religion with anything.
And the only religion is YOURS.
you know what... Teabaggers are funny in a pathetic sort of way.

Huckleberry Hound, like the rest of his Republican compatriots, has memorized the Joseph Goebbels bible, and knows that any lie, no matter how outrageous, becomes the Gospel Truth if it is repeated loudly and often enough.

Huckleberry Hound, like the rest of his Republican compatriots, has memorized the Joseph Goebbels bible, and knows that any lie, no matter how outrageous, becomes the Gospel Truth if it is repeated loudly and often enough.

Huckabee's "I misspoke" claim if trues shows that he is even stupider than the birthers. What the heck do the Brits have to do with Indonesia? Huckabee is obviously trying to add curriculum to the "Home Schoolers for Huckabee" teaching plan.

Look. We're on to you people. You keep this ridiculous falsehood alive for one reason: You know that there is one group of brain dead morons who will actually believe it another larger group of right wing partisans who know it isn't objectively true but are committed to fabricating their own subjective truth for their own partisan ends.

That is why Beck, Limbaugh and Hannity can rake in millions pandering to these two groups of bug brains who have not the slightest interest in governing this country but really do want a sort of fundamentalist anarchy that does little more than preach end of days, left behind bullcrap.

Not a citizen
Is a Muslim
Death panels
Government agents arresting you
Repudiate this
“But we also know that the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States.”

"Tide Comes in. Tide Goes Out. never a missed communication. Where does the moon comes from?"

Welcome to today's GoP.

If W.F. Buckley were alive today, he wouldn't be able to stop throwing up.

This piece started as a blog entry from some tin-foil hat-wearing "Media Matters" drone who is paid to listen to some off-brand radio program (which increased its listening audience by 33%) and it seemed to go viral here at the Compost.
Reading the comments about this article, it's more apparent to me that DC is the southern end of the Boston - NYC - Philadelphia - Baltimore - Bethesda Commie Coastal Corridor. This socialist island is inhabited by white elitist liberals, and liberalism is truly a mental disorder; the primary symptom of most delusion disorders is called "projection," wherein the patient accuses others (usually straw men) of possessing their own psychological flaws:
1) everyone who is not a liberal is a "racist:" this is because they subconsciously feel that racial minorities are genetically inferior, so they HAD to vote for Mr. Soetoro in order to assuage their "white guilt"
2) everyone who questions Mr. Soetoro's bonafides is a "birther:" this term was coined because 80% or so of them are "truthers" who believe the US government intentionally blew up the World Trade Center; is it easier to believe that or maybe believe that Nancy Pelosi unknowingly or intentionally verified an ineligible candidate on the Democrat National Committee nomination form?
3) everyone who does not believe Mr. Soetoro walks on water is a "teabagger:" most of these white elitists are either openly gay or have latent homosexual tendencies; thus they project homoerotic fantasies on their political opponents
4) anyone who wants to see the paper trail Messrs. Soetoro & Soros have spent millions to hide is "insane:" they seem to all suffer from the "emperor has no clothes" mass hysteria and thus project delusional behavior on those who point out the obvious fact that he has no clothes
5) I'm just sayin'....

Huckabee is a fool who believes lies told to him by people he trusts. His greatest problem is his inability to "unlearn" facts he knows, but are now untrue.

This is why he is a bad Christian. He was brought up to believe certain things about other people, and was told this was "God's plan" to keep women, blacks and gays oppressed. When he finds out this is untrue, he still clings to his old beliefs, rather than learn that God is more loving than he ever knew to begin with.

So,actually by Election Day 2012,frankly it
will not make much difference if Muslim in
Chief Head Liar Barack Hussein Obama,the US
most clueless total incompetent President in all US history was born in Kenya or on
the Moon,as the American Voters are going to throw Obama under his own bus and are so
fed up with the antics of this buffoon and
his disgusting loser wife Moocher Michelle
Obama and want the Obamas Gone! OTO or
One Term Obama for sure as we can no longer
tolerate this party couple,endless golf &
shooting hoops,absentee President and the
total mess Barack Hussein Obama & Team Obama have made along with Dingy Harry Reid
and Nutty Nancy Pelosi! Vote The Democrat
Incompetents OUT in 2012 and 2014.

Posted by: wewintheylose1 | March 2, 2011 6:31 AM
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And I thought that Huckabee's statements showed ignorance until I ran across this little gem. This post may cross over from ignorance to stupidity.

Is there any sign of intelligence with these Repubobots? Their bigotry, lack of Christian beliefs of kindness and righteousness and their pseudo science leaves me to believe that their Southern schools are nothing more than breeding grounds for Right Wing extremists. If the minister says it then it must be true!!!

The next election must be for Sanity as there is none coming from the Republican/Tea Party inmates.

Is there any sign of intelligence with these Repubobots? Their bigotry, lack of Christian beliefs of kindness and righteousness and their pseudo science leaves me to believe that their Southern schools are nothing more than breeding grounds for Right Wing extremists. If the minister says it then it must be true!!!

The next election must be for Sanity as there is none coming from the Republican/Tea Party inmates.

He mis-spoke yea ok. I will be sure NOT to mis speak when I bypass Hucky name in 2012.
If some of you think POTUS wasn't vetted ans revetted B4 his name was put in the hat you are a joke. In fact his background was checked more times than most of the others at the time because he gained the spotlight more so than the rest. Why because he was a black man seeking the highest office on the land. Some of you on this blog are a joke. You don't bother to research for your self just believe FOX entainterment as face value. He's a black man so can't be 100% legit, what a bunch of idoits.

'If you think about it, his (Huckabee's) perspective as growing up in Arkansas with a genetically deprived father and grandfather, their view of the Industrial Revolution in Switzerland is very different than ours because he probably grew up hearing that the Swiss were a bunch of watch-making imperialists who persecuted his grandfather.

Elements of the mainstream media and various other Obama apologists are quick to focus on the so-called "birthers" whenever any mention is made of the growing awareness of the fact that the current president continues to conceal virtually the entire paper trail of his existence in a tight shroud of secrecy.

By portraying the birthers as irrational or deranged individuals obsessed with the belief that Barack Obama was born in Kenya or Indonesia or elsewhere outside of the United States, they seek to avoid any emphasis on the astounding unprecedented totality of secrecy that guards practically every original record and document from his entire life.

Americans of all political persuasions can recall the Obama 2008 campaign repeatedly promising that their administration would uphold the highest ethical standards with a particular emphasis on transparency.

A vast majority of these voters believe that the process of running for President of the United States should be the toughest public job interview on the planet.

The sad fact remains that the current president, according to longstanding government clearance protocols, could not be hired as a janitor in a federal building with the amount of personal background information that he has provided.

Barack Obama's original typewritten long form birth certificate (if in fact it has ever existed), school records, SAT and LSAT scores, college and law school admission records and grade transcripts and thesis papers, medical records, passport history, Illinois state senate tenure records, presidential campaign foreign donor lists, complete White House visitor logs and other relevant records and documents have all never been released or allowed to be subjected to any sort of scrutiny, despite several years of repeated requests for disclosure by numerous individuals and non-traditional media organizations.

The Obama 2008 campaign and subsequent administration have to date spent a substantial sum on legal fees, estimated in the millions of dollars, to fight Freedom of Information Act filings and other requests to examine this material. The powerful international law firm Perkins Coie LLP has been their primary provider of these services.

In fact, astute observers consider that the infamous original typewritten long form birth certificate, the most widely discussed item from Obama's hidden paper trail, is actually the least relevant of all of his concealed records and documents, again, if in fact it has ever existed.

The understand that the truth about Barack Obama's place of birth and the identity of both of his parents is far less important to the future of the United States than the facts about what makes him tick and who is pulling his strings, so to speak.

This is the sort of information about presidential candidates that used to be provided by the mainstream media, until 2008 when Obama received an amazing special exception from the traditional practice of disclosure.

It's not his fault. Huckabee had a very different experience dealing with liberal policies, growing up in Mussolini's Italy, than the average American. I think that influences his attitudes toward liberals.

CORRECTION: JoshLCT simply misspoke when he said "Mussolini's Italy". JoshLCT meant to say that Huckabee grew up in Arkansas.

What JoshLCT does want to know, is how stupid Mike Huckabee thinks JoshLCT is that he would even consider for a moment that Huckabee "misspoke" in a way that conveniently panders to the birther movement. It should be obvious to anyone with half a brain that Hucakbee wants to get the support of the lunatic fringe in 2012 without being seen as the embodiment of their ideals. Anyone with more brains than that knows that he already is.

The sad thing about these comments are they are taken seriously in the Deep South. For example the Atlanta Journal Constitution reported the story like it was a fact with no correction -
FACT CHECK: Huckabee claims Obama grew up in Kenya - The Associated Press

WASHINGTON — Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee suggested in a radio interview that President Barack Obama's childhood in Kenya shaped his worldview — even though Obama did not visit Kenya until he was in his 20s.

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee signs his book, "A Simple Government" on Sunday, Feb. 27, 2011, at Sam's Club in Davenport. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee said Sunday that he's evaluating the possible financial commitments needed to make another run at the White House.

The potential Republican presidential candidate told New York radio station WOR on Monday that Obama's youth led him to resent the West, which he said explains why, in Huckabee's view, Obama's foreign policy differs so greatly from that of his predecessors.

"One thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, (is) very different than the average American," Huckabee said, pointing to Obama's decision in 2009 to remove a bust of former Prime Minister Winston Churchill from the Oval Office.

He failed to note that Obama replaced the Oval Office fixture with a bust of one of his American heroes, President Abraham Lincoln, and moved the Churchill bust to the White House residence.

"The bust of Winston Churchill, a great insult to the British," Huckabee said. "But then if you think about it, his perspective as growing up in Kenya with a Kenyan father and grandfather . he probably grew up hearing that the British were a bunch of imperialists who persecuted his grandfather."

Obama's grandfather, Hussein Onyango Obama, was detained in a 1952 uprising against British colonial rule in Kenya. Huckabee said childhood stories of the Mau Mau rebellion would lead President Obama to want to remove from the Oval Office the bust of Churchill, who ordered a crackdown against that uprising.

The executive director of Huckabee's political action committee said the former governor misspoke.

"When the governor mentioned he wanted to know more about the president, he wasn't talking about the president's place of birth — the governor believes the president was born in Hawaii," Hogan Gidley said. "The governor would, however, like to know more about where President Obama's liberal policies come from and what else the president plans to do to this country — as do most Americans."

You have no more credible evidence Ohbongo was born in Hawaii than Huckabee has that he was born in Kenya. So how can you post a headline that says "Huckabee claims inaccurately that Obama was raised in Kenya." Why not say "Huckabee claims accurately that Obama was raised in Kenya?"

The Wisconsin protests have been peaceful.
But in an effort to "prove" Wisconsin protestors are violent - last night O'Reilly spoke with a Fox reporter at the Wisconsin capitol WHILE airing a clip of people fighting.
In the background are palm trees.
Palm trees in Wisconsin - who knew?

One thing that makes Gov Huckabee excuse that he was talking about Indonesia is the fact that it was the FRENCH not British who ruled Indonesia. Remember the whole Vietnam war where we took over from the FRENCH, it was in Indonesia. I used to think Gov Huckabee was a fairly honest and good if misguided conservative, but now he exposes himself as yet another who will tell any lie, push any set of hates to get what he wants.

I don't watch FOX at all but saw Huckabee on the Colbert Report and thought the guy was OK. Now I realize he's just another FOX manipulating "did I say that, gee," disingenuous jerk. It constantly amazes me how these guys think they can throw something out into the airwaves and blogosphere and then act like they didn't really say or mean what is right there in front of us. Huck - your 15 minutes is up. Exit microphone left. No amount of disclaimer can get you out of this one.

Ugly, old, white men who excel in the politics of persecution saying just what their constituents want to hear. Next Huckie will toss in Willy Horton...Racism is alive and well in our country and too many Americans could not even find Arkanas or Kenya on the map!The world is watching and must be impressed with our little boys who can't get out of the sand pile.

Why, then, did Obama write on his app for financial aid that he was a foreign student? Occidental College released that doc, so Google it. At a minimum, fraud associated with getting financial aid. Oh wait, I must be a crazy right-winger.

Mike is the latest Christian fake to come down the pike. He gave up his "God's calling" for money and fame. The attention this absurb statement is getting him is exactly what he wants to keep himself "media relevant." Want to see Mike's real side? See the YouTube video of his wife bullying an Arkansas state troooper last fall. He's cut from the same cloth, he's just packaged to be a little more palatable to the "average American" he references in his lie about POTUS. Just once I'd like Obama to call down someone like Huckabee instead of turning the other cheek.

Mr Huckabee apparently failed to do serious research as to the President's background in making the error he made on radio. Although, I often disagree with the President on issues and programs, I celebrate his achievement and that of his family through sacrifice and hard work to achieve the Presidency. As the first African American President, I for one commend President Obama's unbelievable accomplishment. As I stated earlier I do differ with him on many issues, yet with pride I respect his office, family, and great achievement. He is our President duly elected and has a fine family. I will challenge him on issues where we both disagree. I will not however denigrate his incredible accompishment, the office or his fine family. Although a Republican with strong convictions I am first an American. If people vote for me they must know that I will never disrespect the Presidential office or its occupant--his is a great personal achievement and should not be denigrated by any vote seeker, in my opinion that is un American

Passive voice without an agent is the weak tool of a sniveling propagandist - this time by a delusional, inbred teabagger-birther cousin of Fred Phelps. Don't you have anything better to do like cherry-pick verses from Leviticus?

Hilarious. Libs are so inane. Here was the one time they had an out on Obatdo's total and complete lack of competence, why he shows absolutely NO empathy for the poor or the American worker - but they blew it- turned it into an attack. Kinda makes him look even worse (like anyone could) than if he WAS raised in Kenya. Again I say - Carter and Qualye couldn't be happier! They're off the HOOK!!

You must be thinking of his visit to Indonesia, where he did grow up and where he did share all of those remembrances. He never travelled to Kenya until he was in his 20s, and last visited there in 2006 when he was a senator.

To know this, all you need to do is read the newspaper... or do a search on google. Either way, it's there.

It would be refreshing if Mr. Huckabee would read a book on British colonialism in Africa because his ignorant facts about the President aside, he obviously believes that the British in Africa were enlightened ones bringing harmony and progress to the dark continent.

And that's the real shame of his ignorance - his very unchristian support of an ugly self-serving system imposed on Africa by the European colonial powers simply because they had the power to do so. His political mentality has never evolved apparently beyond the "white man's burden".

Are we certain that Mr. Huckabee was born and grew up in a "real" American town?

When being interviewed for neanderthal moron right-wing audiences, Huck is in fact, a birther - spewing the same discredited "kenyan-muslim-communist-facsist" birther hogwash that the STUPID IMBECILES lap up...

But when called out by any THINKING reporter questioning the intellect of this so-called presidential candidate, the Huckster FOLDS LIKE A CHEAP SUIT, leaving his little spokestwit to tell the truth...

Astute observers in corridors of power around the world and other quarters consider that the so-called "birthers" have probably got hold of the wrong end of the stick, so to speak.

They believe it likely that Barack Obama was indeed born somewhere in Hawaii.

That the real reason for the controversy over the infamous original typewritten long form birth certificate, the most widely discussed item from Obama's hidden paper trail, is actually because this document may never have even existed at all.

There exists a widespread and growing speculation that the current president's biological father was not the late Kenyan Barack Obama "Sr." and that his birth mother was not the late Stanley Ann Dunham.

The working theory being debated maintains that the late "grandfather" Stanley Armour Dunham was the actual father, and the mother was an unidentified black or polynesian female, perhaps from the Honolulu beatnik bar and coffeehouse scene that Dunham was known to frequent with his close friend, the late CPUSA member Frank Marshall Davis.

Stanley Armour Dunham was known as a strong-willed control freak who ruled his family with an iron hand and deeply desired to have a son, which might explain why he named his daughter after himself.

If he did indeed father a boy he may well have given it to his passive obedient daughter Stanley Ann Dunham to raise, and her convenient arranged marriage in name only to the Kenyan served everyone's purpose, giving the infant an ostensible father and facilitating the Kenyan's desire to remain in the United States to continue his studies.

It was quite easy to register a child with the state of Hawaii in 1961 by providing the basic paternity and maternity information without any actual proof, and thus obtaining a state issued certificate of live birth.

This would explain why there has never been any record or document from any source that shows Stanley Ann Dunham ever giving birth anywhere in Hawaii, and why there has never been any hospital or doctor or nurse or administrator that has ever been found or no witness that has ever come forward with any connection at all to birth of the current president.

There are many easily found sources that one may consult to examine the plethora of admittedly circumstantial evidence.

cashill.com is as good as any place to start for those who might have an interest.

The poem "Pop" which was written by the current president when he was 19, and which many interpret as reflecting his realization that "Gramps" was actually his father.

The timeline of events and movements of all of the involved parties, particularly "mother" Stanley Ann Dunham's appearance in Seattle, Washington, to register for university classes supposedly just 15 days after giving birth in Hawaii.

Contemporary witness accounts of numerous impressions of the true nature of the relationships between these people, and photographic comparisons of them.

John McCain was born and raised in Panama, so what. Why does Huckabee not just use the n-word and be done with the whole affair, about how 'different' President Obama is. President is a Black Man, so what.

Pastor Huckabee is not just a bought and paid for Rupert Murdoch shill. The good Pastor also happens to be a closet racist birther bigot. Racist birther bigots are frustrated that a very accomplished African American man was elected in a landslide as President of the United States. Racist birther bigots can't seem to find a great white hope to challenge the elected President, so they try to undo the election with the racist birther bigot lie that the President is an illegal alien and was never born in America.

Racism and bigotry in America has always been dependent on racist lies and racist stereotypes spread by racist bigots. Rupert Murdoch's bird-dog, Mike Huckabee is just another racist birther bigot making up racist lies and throwing red meat to other bloody-jawed bigots.

Where there's smoke there's fire. When the leftist water carrying Obama sycophant media get their panties in a bunch like this, you know you're on to something. Personally, I think the boy is a Kenyan Marxist Muslim, and have yet to see evidence to the contrary..

WOW...some of you folks need to keep up on your current events. Did you not follow Barry Hussein Obama's recent trip to Kenya during which the entire country turned out to welcome him back to his old neighborhood where he lived and went to school as a child? There was video of him strolling the street and remarking on how different some areas appeared while others had not changed much from his memories of his time there. Hmmmmmm....better do some fact checking before slamming Huckabee or anyone else for their questioning this usurper's background.

WOW...some of you folks need to keep up on your current events. Did you not follow Barry Hussein Obama's recent trip to Kenya during which the entire country turned out to welcome him back to his old neighborhood where he lived and went to school as a child? There was video of him strolling the street and remarking on how different some areas appeared while others had not changed much from his memories of his time there. Hmmmmmm....better do some fact checking before slamming Huckabee or anyone else for their questioning this usurper's background.

WOW...some of you folks need to keep up on your current events. Did you not follow Barry Hussein Obama's recent trip to Kenya during which the entire country turned out to welcome him back to his old neighborhood where he lived and went to school as a child? There was video of him strolling the street and remarking on how different some areas appeared while others had not changed much from his memories of his time there. Hmmmmmm....better do some fact checking before slamming Huckabee or anyone else for their questioning this usurper's background.

A couple of observations. Obviously a liar. Works for Fox. Republican/bagger. So I guess he wont leave the closet on his own. National Enquirer, get on it. Do lying, bigoted , hipocrit preachers, go to heaven? If so the door is open for everyone and theres no reason for us to be good boys and girls. Yipppeee!

When the Huckster comes out of his delirium he ought to apologize for miscasting his curiosity in the youthful "foreign" influences on the President's liberal policies. What the Huckster ought to ask is how growing up under the influences of a history of racial slavery, white supremacist attitudes & racial segregation in the Southern Baptist Convention in Arkansas had on the Huckster that shaped his conservative views. For we know one thing for sure about Huckster, the real-life model for the corrupt Baptist minister character played by John Goodman in the film "O Brother, where art thou?": Hucksters with a Southern accent have no shame when it comes to playing the race card to advance their political ambitions.

Man, this Huckleberry guy is REALLY confused. Obama wasn't RAISED in Kenya-- he was BORN in Kenya! He was RAISED in Yemen, which is where he became a SOCIALIST.

All that stuff about "Indonesia"? Just a damn smokescreen to hide the TRUTH from REAL Americans like Glenn Beckelhead, who courageously serves his country by revealing the truth about Jews and Islamic terrorists, which are the SAME THING.

Bobsomm must speak a specific dialect of Swahili.
Come now Bobsomm, what dialect was his grandmother speaking that you so carefully translated and obviously you know her personally and by her voice.
Which dialect Bob?
Come on now, don’t be humble, tell us all here.
McCain was not born in America nor a US territory since he was out of the Canal Zone. FACT!

Bob, did Santa, the Easter Bunny or Babe the Blue Ox translate the interview or was it the aliens that abducted you and had you make love to the vacuum cleaner.

Huckabee was lying, as he lies about creationism and other nonsense he professes to believe to get elected.

Bush and Cheney lied about Iraq and men and women by the thousands died and we blew $ 1 trillion but I guess that is a lie too.

Obama’s grandmother never said he was born in Kenya, but then again, I didn’t ask the tooth fairy, is that your source or was it an engineered voice on youtube or Fox.

Mike lied, but then again, he is a conservative and would sell his soul for votes and did.

Still waiting for the dialect but then again, I have an advantage, a Kenyan friend and professor of Swahili.

Dialect please!

Side Bar: I did not realize how many white supremacists could type or who knew what the web was.

"Governor Huckabee simply misspoke when he alluded to President Obama growing up in 'Kenya.' The Governor meant to say the President grew up in Indonesia."

What? The whole reasoning that followed the sentence "Obama grew up in Kenya", built on the concept of Kenya and the presumption Obama was influenced by his Kenyan father and grandfather and the British rule in Kenya. It can't in any way pertain to Indonesia, which was ruled by the Dutch. (Oh - I guess President Obama hates the Dutch!)

Wmpowellfan is quoting Phil Berg, former attorney in Pennsylvania, who, as an ardent supporter of Hillary was trying to damage the Obama candidacy with lies and was supported by AIPAC who wanted Hillary because of her support of Israel and disdain for Palestinians and that is fact.

Don’t you people ever research your lunatic comments? Obama was born and raised in America.

I believe that these blogs are the most inane I have ever seen. Huckabee mispoke and his representative corrected it saying that Huck knows that BHO grew up in Kenya and Indonesia. That should end it. For all you nut cases out there, the Prime Minister of Kenya was in a TV interview and the reporter said something like... Kenyans must be very proud for someone born in your country to make it to the US Presidency.
He beamed and said YES, we are very proud and are setting up a special place to give him honor. They also constructed a bronz statue of Obama as a lad and when it hit the fan, they moved it in front of an elementary school were few visit.
I saw that interview twice where the president of Kenya said Obama was born in Kenya.
I saw 3 separate interviews with BHO's grandmother in which she said he was born there in a hut and she attended the birth and how proud she was that he has become president.
Finally, when the birthers got smoking, several people born in Hawaii showed pictures of their BIRTH CERTIFICATES. One interview with an employee of the Hawaii records folks said that to be listed as an hawaiin citizen, some people call it in because they are out in tribal areas etc.
So, we can call them and say that BHO was born on such and such a date etc. That is one reason birthers are suspicious.
Another thing. BHO was a mediocre student and then went to Occidental College, then transferred to Columbia or some other prestigious college and then to Harvard. Some want to see the college records because some say he paid part of his tuition by getting Foreign Student Grants.
Every president of the Harvard Review publishes prolifically. There are no records of any written material from BHO. When he graduated Harvard, he set sail for a world tour. For a guy with no income, where did he get the money to do this. I want to do that but can't afford it???
He has a brother in Kenya making less than $15 a month. He got the hounds to stop bothering his aunt who is an illegal in the NE.
What I get mostly from the blogs above is a blind madness in which everyone rages against others who just want to discuss these things. What does that make you?
I have no idea where he was born or if he gave up his citizenship etc. But it does make me more than curious that a President has spent over a $million hiding his past.
Doesn't that just scream at you?
If you were President, why would you seal all documents like this? Where is your reason? I hope he is an authentic USA natural citizen and not a naturalized citizen. I have no reason to think that he is but see many reasons to doubt it. But you just rant and say stupid stuff. Why do you think he has hidden his past? How can he have attended school in Indonesia when they only educate Indonesian students? Why
WHY... Peace, bob

I believe that these blogs are the most inane I have ever seen. Huckabee mispoke and his representative corrected it saying that Huck knows that BHO grew up in Kenya and Indonesia. That should end it. For all you nut cases out there, the Prime Minister of Kenya was in a TV interview and the reporter said something like... Kenyans must be very proud for someone born in your country to make it to the US Presidency.
He beamed and said YES, we are very proud and are setting up a special place to give him honor. THey also constructed a bronz statue of Obama as a lad and when it hit the fan, they moved it in front of an elementary school were few visit.
I saw that interview twice where the president of Kenya said Obama was born in Kenya.
I saw 3 separate interviews with BHO's grandmother in which she said he was born there in a hut and she attended the birth and how proud she was that he has become president.
Finally, when the birthers got smoking, several people born in Hawaii showed pictures of their BIRTH CERTIFICATES. One interview with an employee of the Hawaii records folks said that to be listed as an hawaiin citizen, some people call it in because they are out in tribal areas etc.
So, we can call them and say that BHO was born on such and such a date etc. That is one reason birthers are suspicious.
Another thing. BHO was a mediocre student and then went to Occidental College, then transferred to Columbia or some other prestigious college and then to Harvard. Some want to see the college records because some say he paid part of his tuition by getting Foreign Student Grants.
Every president of the Harvard Review publishes prolifically. There are no records of any written material from BHO. When he graduated Harvard, he set sail for a world tour. For a guy with no income, where did he get the money to do this. I want to do that but can't afford it???
He has a brother in Kenya making less than $15 a month. He got the hounds to stop bothering his aunt who is an illegal in the NE.
What I get mostly from the blogs above is a blind madness in which everyone rages against others who just want to discuss these things. What does that make you?
I have no idea where he was born or if he gave up his citizenship etc. But it does make me more than curious that a President has spent over a $million hiding his past.
Doesn't that just scream at you?
If you were President, why would you seal all documents like this? Where is your reason? I hope he is an authentic USA natural citizen and not a naturalized citizen. I have no reason to think that he is but see many reasons to doubt it. But you just rant and say stupid stuff. Why do you think he has hidden his past? How can he have attended school in Indonesia when they only educate Indonesian students? Why
WHY... Peace, bob

Pinocchio’s nose grew with every lie and Huckabee’s weight grows with every lie.

Until we have an intelligence test and a drug test for all political offices, we will be stuck with idiots like Huckabee.

Anyone that does not know that evolution is proven fact does not belong in congress. Sorry Huck.

Anyone that thinks the world is less than 4 billion years old does not have the sense to run America. Shame on you Huck!

Anyone who thinks creationism is a theory is incompetent and should not be in congress or president.

John McCain was born in a Panamanian hospital not a part of any American territory, Obama was born in Hawaii, USA.

Conservative lies are only matched by their greed and ignorance. Imagine a man professing religion lying and using that religious affiliation to steal votes. Imagine Huckabee, Newt with two fewer wives, and two more lies.

To paraphrase an old expression: It is better to be silent and thought racist than to open one's mouth and confirm it as fact.

If there were any question that most of the anti-Obama rhetoric and birther nonsense is driven by racism, just read the following to dispel all doubt:

"If preacher huck and the party claims obongo has a kenyon background let that be the platform of the party for the next election,after all the south side of chicago is mostly mau maus.

Posted by: schmidt1"

Though, in fact, I wish all the racists who comment around the net would be as blatant as schmidty. Lacking the courage of their heinous convictions, they use coded terminology and veiled language. They are, at heart, cowards.

You could also argue Huckabee was saying just what he claimed, that Obama had a unique perspective on the world having so much early influence from outside the continental United States, I think it shows that he respected Obama's abilities in foreign affairs and provided a framework for an explanation. I just don't see the racist or birther side given the context of the conversation, you could insinuate and make fuss, but try to be fair and seek the truth, not cheap shots, and no what would Huckabee have gained if this was a cheap shot on his part?

What "dancingrabbit" fails to recognize is that even if you throw out all sorts of authoritative-sounding BS is is still BS. Dancingrabbit misrepresents the holding of the Supreme Court case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898). Contrary to dancingrabbit's misrepresentation, that case stands for the proposition that, under the Fourteenth Amendment, the citizenship of one's parents is irrelevant to anyone born on U.S. soil. In that case, both parents were Chineese citizens, but Mr. Wong was born in San Francisco. His parents were both subject to the jurisdiction of the United States because they were present here, even if their presence was intended to be temporary. Because he was born here, he was a natural born citizen - just like President Obama.

Do you think our Christian Brother Huckabee knows what that commandment means? Or for that matter all the Hyper religious, God fearing conservatives? No matter if Jesus himself would come down from heaven and said that very famous saying that "it was easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man getting into heaven" you know what they would call him, a socialist, communist and worst a DEMOCRAT !!

Do you think our Christian Brother Huckabee knows what that commandment means? Or for that matter all the Hyper religious, God fearing conservatives? No matter if Jesus himself would come down from heaven and said that very famous saying that "it was easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man getting into heaven" you know what they would call him, a socialist, communist and worst a DEMOCRAT !!

Now at least we know the identity of Huckabee's "intellectual" inspiration. That would be Dinesh D'Souza of National Review, who last year came out with a book analyzing Obama's "alien" way of thinking, which he traced back to Obama's Kenyan father. Misguided and malevolent though he is, D'Souza at least tries to keep his facts straight, and he never claimed that Obama grew up in Kenya. What is most disturbing about this story, however, is that Huckabee and his advisers think that the American people are gullible enough to accept his explanation that he mistook Kenya for Indonesia. Well, there are some American tea-baggers who actually don't know the difference between Kenya and Indonesia, but for this guy, trying to handicap the political horserace of 2012, this puts Huckabee way in the back, right next to Sarah Palin. Good luck, Huck!

Up until now, I had thought of Huckabee as a sincerely religious man with politcal ambitions. I knew little about his competence, experience, or intelligence.

He "misspeaking," however has changed my opinion completely. The ignorance Mr. Huckabee exhibits in the context of his remarks about President Obama is inexcusable. How could this man, as president, deal with international affairs? He is as ignorant and as partisan as Sarah Palin.

Of course the poorly-disguised malice behind the central attack on President Obama is another matter. To lie outright in order to discredit a potential rival speaks for itself.

Mike Huckabee is not a good person. Allegedly a man of the cloth, I consider him the poster boy for hypocrisy.

He is not fit to hold any public office nor to preach in any house of worship.

The Mid-Terms gave us lots of republicans like Governor Walker who say one thing and do another. They won big at Mid-Terms because they promised to create jobs and now they are stripping us of our rights, depriving women of preventive health care and ability to decide for themselves medically, while propping up the corporations and their donors with tax cuts. Instead of creating jobs for the Middle Class and the poor, they are stripping the Middle Class of their bargaining power. Reverend Huckabee brings another dimension to this abuse. His ignorance in this interview is deplorable and his lies, unforgiving, especially for someone who should be close to God. I have two sons and their birth certificates are similar to the President's and for the republicans to continue to pretend that the President’s birth certificate is not authentic, confirms that they will do anything to win elections. Mr. Huckabee in this interview did in fact say in so many words that the President is not one of us. What kind of President is Mr. Huckabee going to be when he does not accept our President as one of us? Mr. Huckabee is very untrustworthy. A week ago, he told ABC interviewer, Terry Moran when asked about the “birther” issue, "I think that’s ridiculous," he said. "There’s a lot of things we need to be talking regarding Barack Obama. But, you know, I find that completely out of the question." Mr. Huckabee also dismissed the “birther” issue as “nonsense” when Mr. George Stephanopoulos brought it up in his interview with him. Essentially, Mr. Huckabee is not honorable since he is very willing to sell his soul to win an election. What a shame!

The Mid-Terms gave us lots of republicans like Governor Walker who say one thing and do another. They won big at Mid-Terms because they promised to create jobs and now they are stripping us of our rights, depriving women of preventive health care and ability to decide for themselves medically, while propping up the corporations and their donors with tax cuts. Instead of creating jobs for the Middle Class and the poor, they are stripping the Middle Class of their bargaining power. Reverend Huckabee brings another dimension to this abuse. His ignorance in this interview is deplorable and his lies, unforgiving, especially for someone who should be close to God. I have two sons and their birth certificates are similar to the President's and for the republicans to continue to pretend that the President’s birth certificate is not authentic, confirms that they will do anything to win elections. Mr. Huckabee in this interview did in fact say in so many words that the President is not one of us. What kind of President is Mr. Huckabee going to be when he does not accept our President as one of us? Mr. Huckabee is very untrustworthy. A week ago, he told ABC interviewer, Terry Moran when asked about the “birther” issue, "I think that’s ridiculous," he said. "There’s a lot of things we need to be talking regarding Barack Obama. But, you know, I find that completely out of the question." Mr. Huckabee also dismissed the “birther” issue as “nonsense” when Mr. George Stephanopoulos brought it up in his interview with him. Essentially, Mr. Huckabee is not honorable since he is very willing to sell his soul to win an election. What a shame!

Apart from Huckabee's claim about Obama being raised in Kenya being an outright lie, his spokesman's attempt at damage control further made team Huckabee look more foolish. The governor alluded to "their (Kenyans') view of the Mau Mau Revolution in Kenya is very different than ours..." and not any revolutionary movement in Indonesia. Do these people think at all?

Then Huckabee had said:

"...his view (Obama's) of the Brits, for example, [is] very different than the average American."

That again pointed to an utter lack of knowledge about the basic American history. What would any American today call the British that colonized the people of continental America before Independence? Why was the War of Independence faught? Who were behind the War of 1812? Why do we still denigrade the British troops of that era as "Red Coats." The perception of any American with any sense of history is not diametrically oppossed to any other national or descendant of anybody who lived under British colonialism (for example Barack Obama), be it in Kenya, India, Nigeria or Ghana. The only difference is that those experiences happened and ended at different times. But it was not a pleasant experience for the Americans of those days. Neither was it palatable for those who experienced British imperialism and colonialism in Asia and Africa.

For Huckabee to continue to regurgitate a writing of an intellectually bankrupt author of Indian ancestry and which has already been discredited among sensible people is not only naive but devoid of any iota of knowledge at all.

This is really about name-calling pure and simple. Why not just call him the N-word and be done with it. That’s what this is really about. These folks who persist in this “birther” crap are stooping to the lowest denominator of the racist extremes of the Republican Party. No one who has been in earshot of a TV forecast or a newspaper in the past two years can really BELIEVE this nonsense. There is an old adage:" if you lay down with dogs, you come up with fleas". These flea-bitten, name-callers are painting themselves into a far corner that eventually alienates them from the mainstream voters. It takes broad mainstream support to win a national election. For that reason, they may be a nuisance but hardly a threat. Mike Huckabee may be a flunky for FOX News, but he is not our next President.

Huckabee was more right then he thinks. Obama was not raised with American fundamentals. Obama has said many times that he's going to change our fundamentals. We were raised with American fundamentals just like Obama was raised with Indonesia fundamentals, which are Muslim fundamentals. Who cares if Obama was raised in Kenya or Indonesia. If Obama had American fundamentals he wouldn't be trying so hard to change our fundamentals would he. Does anyone want to guess what fundamentals Obama wants to change us to seeing how he was raised in Indonesia in Muslim fundamentals.

The President didn't "grow up in Kenya" OR Indonesia. He lived in Indonesia from the ages 6-10 and then returned to his home state of Hawaii.
BTW: Can we ask Sarah Palin's witchdoctor (Bishop Thomas Muthee) to be so kind as to drive Huckabee's demons out like he did for her gubernatorial campaign?

What is it about Republican politicians that compels them to kowtow to the lunatic right by propagating patently untrue stories.

Heck, did you notice the squirmypoo that the Huckapoo spokesman did to 'unsay' the lie. If Huckapoo meant to say Indonesia instead of Kenya, then I guess he meant to say anti-Dutch instead of anti-English.

During the last election cycle, there were times that Huckabee had some moderate things to say. But I suppose since he might be seriously thinking about running for the Rasputlican party nomination, he knows he needs to wash out any of those moderate inklings with the soap of the far right wing lye factory.

The Newster has done that as well -- in the past his smarts made him say some intelligent things amidst all the posturing. These days, in order to position himself as a more right wingnut than thou candidate, he has had to spew stupid to play to the primary school only educated crowd that represent all that the Republicans can be these days.

Huckabee is a backward, southern, hillbilly Baptist, not at all worldly, and 100 years behind in his thinking.
I don't give credence to anything he says.
Would you really want a person like him to be president? Maybe with Sarah Palin.
Sheeesh!

Huckabee is a backward, southern, hillbilly Baptist, not at all worldly, and 100 years behind in his thinking.
I don't give credence to anything he says.
Would you really want a person like him to be president? Maybe with Sarah Palin.
Sheeesh!

My youngest son was born in Aurora, Colorado where both my husband and I were stationed. We also were assigned to Germany for two tours, one when my son was 2-1/2. He went to a German kindergarten, both our boys attended an American school in Germany. They have, like any other kids who have been raised in a foreign country for any amount of time, neither a good understanding of that country based on their little kid experiences, nor do they care about what happens in Germany- They're 30 and 35 now. But the experience my sons had in Germany broadened their thinking and their bold ability to maintain in any environment. Our President is a good man, a decent and loyal American and he has no hidden agenda - his life is a pretty much open book for anyone who cares to look. The race hatred reflected in some of the messages posted above basically makes the writers look small and mean.

Huckabee's spokesman Hogan Gidley - Hogan Gidley?. Hogan wants to know what Pres. Obama wants to do to this country. Do to this country? What kind of a question is that? Let me just say that what ever has been done to this country was done by the last Bush administration and his corporate cronies. We are still trying to recover from the arrogance and incompetence of Bush, Cheyney and Rumsfeld.

My youngest son was born in Aurora, Colorado where both my husband and I were stationed. We also were assigned to Germany for two tours, one when my son was 2-1/2. He went to a German kindergarten, both our boys attended an American school in Germany. They have, like any other kids who have been raised in a foreign country for any amount of time, neither a good understanding of that country based on their little kid experiences, nor do they care about what happens in Germany- They're 30 and 35 now. But the experience my sons had in Germany broadened their thinking and their bold ability to maintain in any environment. Our President is a good man, a decent and loyal American and he has no hidden agenda - his life is a pretty much open book for anyone who cares to look. The race hatred reflected in some of the messages posted above basically makes the writers look small and mean.

My youngest son was born in Aurora, Colorado where both my husband and I were stationed. We also were assigned to Germany for two tours, one when my son was 2-1/2. He went to a German kindergarten, both our boys attended an American school in Germany. They have, like any other kids who have been raised in a foreign country for any amount of time, neither a good understanding of that country based on their little kid experiences, nor do they care about what happens in Germany- They're 30 and 35 now. But the experience my sons had in Germany broadened their thinking and their bold ability to maintain in any environment. Our President is a good man, a decent and loyal American and he has no hidden agenda - his life is a pretty much open book for anyone who cares to look. The race hatred reflected in some of the messages posted above basically makes the writers look small and mean.

My youngest son was born in Aurora, Colorado where both my husband and I were stationed. We also were assigned to Germany for two tours, one when my son was 2-1/2. He went to a German kindergarten, both our boys attended an American school in Germany. They have, like any other kids who have been raised in a foreign country for any amount of time, neither a good understanding of that country based on their little kid experiences, nor do they care about what happens in Germany- They're 30 and 35 now. But the experience my sons had in Germany broadened their thinking and their bold ability to maintain in any environment. Our President is a good man, a decent and loyal American and he has no hidden agenda - his life is a pretty much open book for anyone who cares to look. The race hatred reflected in some of the messages posted above basically makes the writers look small and mean.

See, what is wrong in he USA is that all Democrats and independents have intelligence and understand American values. So do many moderate Republicans.
The problem is that many rich,, smart conservative elite, Wall Street elite, Banker eltie, elite right wing members of Congress and local governments, sew fear, anguish and hate to the totally uninformed, old and undereducated vastly white citizens. They are afraid African American, Muslim Americans, Asian Americans, Latin Americans and anyone who is not fully Caucasian, (I'm Caucasian), plus we intelligent liberal concerned citizens are socialists. Compassion is a bad thing to them, while hate and angry vilification is their everyday mantra. See Teabag, guntoting,ignornat haters in Google. Good Lord what a group of rich loving, poor hating godless hord they are. God will judge them harshly. Remember, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than a rich man, (repup teabags,) to enter the gates of heaven. See you Huckabee, wouldn't want to be ya. God Bless the USA, may repubs and teabags find God before it's too late.

The comments above seem to have said it all. One question who's next to make a donkey of themselves to get that Presidential bid. Sarah showed us what stupidity is but now it seems each candidate running against Obama are on the same level as sister Sarah. It's one way to get donations from people who like to attack the President Obama. It's become a way to make a quick buck.

The comments above seem to have said it all. One question who's next to make a donkey of themselves to get that Presidential bid. Sarah showed us what stupidity is but now it seems each candidate running against Obama are on the same level as sister Sarah. It's one way to get donations from people who like to attack the President Obama. It's become a way to make a quick buck.

Huckabee knee EXACTLY what he was saying. It not like he mangled the president's P.O. Box # or his shoe size. He's obviously courting the paranoia constituency for a White House bid. But what the one-time Baptist preacher -- a supposed man of God, no less-- has accomplished with his deliberate lie is to ruin his own reputation. We can't take his word at face value any longer; we don't know what untruths he might start spreading next. What other bizarre lies might he try and sell us?

I know credible people that swear Obama was in their elementary school growing up in Kenya. From 1st grade to 10th. The media is suppressing this because they know Obama would be impeached if it was found out that their boy was really an African.

You teabirther morons just make stuff up as you go. Very typical and you think everyone is as stupid as the useless idiot lap dog followers you brainwash.

Funny ever since the Civil War the hillbillies have been at war with the federal government. Whether it was hanging a few black folk on a Saturday night, murdering the revenuer who discovered their still, or beating up the social worker who came to investigate child abuse, the Teabirther droolers have had a thing against the government.

So what if it's a lie? Huckabee is just laying the groundwork to lock in the bottom-of-the-barrel idiot GOP base, and they don't care if they are lied to as long as it feeds their bigotry. In fact, they prefer lies to truth.

No minds will be changed by Huckleberry Huckabeedumb. The mush-minded right-wingnuts that believe this have believed or purported to believe this from the beginning. They also believe the confederates were the right side to back in the civil war. There are way too many redneck gun loving possum eating folks in the USA. Most of them were hatched by their cousins.

What everyone fails to understand peregrine Obama does not qualify to be a citizen even if he was born in Hawaii.

He does not meet the subject to jurisdiction standards in the 14th Amendment. Nor does the peregrine President meet the citizenship standards found in the Supreme Court case Wong Kim Ark.

Peregrine Obama had an alien father who had no intention to remain in the United States and become a citizen. He was a transient student.

The Supreme Court told us in 1973 a President must not only be a citizen he must be a natural born Citizen.

The Supreme Court has told us a natural born citizen is born to citizen parents. The Court has never told us a NBC is born to an alien and a citizen.

Peregrine Obama as a President violates the Law of Nations, chapter 19, section 212: a natural born citizen is born to citizen parents. A country should desire this. A country cannot perpetuate itself unless its citizens are born from citizens.

The Supreme Court told us in 1974 the Law of Nations has been a part of our laws for 200 years.

Thomas Jefferson wrote we must refer to the Law of Nations in all matters.

In all matters. This includes natural born citizenship.

George Washington wrote: "prosecute all crimes against the Law of Nations".

It is time the news media stop covering for this peregrine in the White House.

Guess you can tell any kind of lie or "misspeak" or whatever if you're a rightwing conservative Republican. This is what passes for leadership of a political party in our country? Huckabee, Palin, Gingrich, Romney, Pawlenty, etc. If any of them get in, we can start charging admission. Come to the circus.

Chuck8764 said, "How does anyone become a U.S. citizen not knowing there are 50 states in the United States?"

Obviously, one doesn't. Let alone become President by receiving the largest number of votes in American history. Of course, you know that Obama knows how many states there are. But you probably don't know how stupid you sound when you pretend to think he doesn't know this. You really should stop embarrassing yourself.

You also know there is a big difference between a slip of the tongue and intentionally saying something that you know isn't true. The latter is quite clearly what the Huckster did (see my earlier post if you have any doubts). The latter is also what you're doing with your disingenuous post.

Chuck8764 said, "How does anyone become a U.S. citizen not knowing there are 50 states in the United States?"

Obviously, one doesn't. Let alone become President by receiving the largest number of votes in American history. Of course, you know that Obama knows how many states there are. But you probably don't know how stupid you sound when you pretend to think he doesn't know this. You really should stop embarrassing yourself.

You also know there is a big difference between a slip of the tongue and intentionally saying something that you know isn't true. The latter is quite clearly what the Huckster did (see my earlier post if you have any doubts). The latter is also what you're doing with your disingenuous post.

Wow. I continue to be amazed at the ignorance and bigotry of those who refuse to believe, despite all evidence, that Obama is not a U.S. citizen. With all the problems that we have as a country why can't we put that to bed and get on with trying to solve some of them. Please, please close out this sorry saga that the far right wing has concocted and let's deal with real facts, like 9% unemployment, huge deficits, millions of people without health insurance, our education system in disarray, and our infrastructure crumbling. Let's figure out a way to actually solve problems rather than perpetuate far out conspiracy theories.

maggots: "Excuse me, but we have a birth certificate - it's birthers like you who say he isn't natural born. You probably still think the Iraqi desert is full of WMDs also."

They also think that large criminal corporations who ship jobs overseas are flag-waving Americans, and will do ANYTHING the corporations bid. These Confederates, humorously enough, enjoy being corporate slaves. Irony at its best.

how come they don't say he is a natural born American citizen...
he is a citizen because his mother was American no matter where he was born...
but the constitution says only natural American born citizens can be President...
if he isn't the people will not forgive the dems for the deception...

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Excuse me, but we have a birth certificate - it's birthers like you who say he isn't natural born. You probably still think the Iraqi desert is full of WMDs also.

Huckabee, along with his penchant for theocracies, has lost his small bit of relevance due to the right wing's propensity to lie like psychopathic children.

Huckabee knows damn well Obama wasn't brought up in Kenya. The shock is, that this so-called loving christian is just another stupid Confederate racist who shouldn't be allowed within a country hick mile of the Oval Office.

Why are far right christians the worst racists? Could be a theme for a thesis.

Mike Huckabee who preaches out of both sides of his mouth will NOT run for president. Aside from 3 MILLION DOLLARS in mortgages on his homes), as well as the fact he's under investigation for Goldline and Gold Corp, the preacher said Obama is going to be “much tougher to beat than people in our party think.” Huckabee would also have to give up his saudi/fox salaries. He will never be will never be anything other than a fox news stooge

susantodd wrote: "MICHELLE OBAMA: Surrounding HIV testing which is still plaguing so many of our communities, which you all know a lot of that is due to homophobia. Barack has led by example. When we took our trip to Africa and visited his home country in Kenya, we took a public HIV test."

DC Sage wrote: The "Kenya" thing is the lingua franca of American white racist birther bigots who burn with racist hatred for anyone who is not a white guy. White racist birther bigots hate the democratic process because the democratic process has elected an African American man President of the United States and put the lie to the white racist bilge that some jobs in America should always be reserved for 100% white guy quotas no matter how sorry and no-account or unqualified the white guy may be. (See George Bush). President Obama broke the 100% white guy quota on the Presidency and white racist birther bigots hate him for that.

White racist birther bigots with racism and bigotry dripping from bloody pus-filled racist gums are a fixture in America that will always be with us. Kind of like cancer. However, America is a great country where even bloody-jawed white racist birther bigots get to vent their racist hatred and their fear of a society where being white no longer guarantees anything and they now have to compete on a level playing field with the rest of society.

WTH?
I'm not sure what President Obama thinks about "the brits" but I assume most regular Americans are like me and think that British men are hot with their hot Brit accents and that they have MUCH better TV shows....movies too.

Huckabee is just another reason to be embarrassed to live in Arkansas.

how come they don't say he is a natural born American citizen...
he is a citizen because his mother was American no matter where he was born...
but the constitution says only natural American born citizens can be President...
if he isn't the people will not forgive the dems for the deception...

OMG....reminds me of the McCarthy years...Obama is who he is because of the value system his mother and loving grandparents (all US citizens) instilled in him...The value system was reinforced with his education...Many of us share that experience. I feel sorry for those of you who had been raised in greed and hate...

The modern day Elmer Gantry, Mike Huckabee is a bought and paid for Rupert Murdoch shill. Huckabee is Rupert Murdoch's bird-dog. Murdoch's flunky.

But Huckabee is also a petty little bigot spewing racist hatred and racist birther bigot lies against the elected President of the United States. Huckabee is a racist hatemonger and a racist birther bigot who spews racist lies with one hand while thumping a Bible with the other.

Huckabee should take his racist lies and the Murdoch instigated racist bigotry and kiss where the sun don't shine.

MICHELLE OBAMA: Surrounding HIV testing which is still plaguing so many of our communities, which you all know a lot of that is due to homophobia. Barack has led by example. When we took our trip to Africa and visited his home country in Kenya, we took a public HIV test.

I never agreed with most of Huckabee's political positions, but I did view him as an honest and honorable guy. Until now.

Clearly this is not just a slip of the tongue. If the Huckster meant to say "Indonesia," why would he also refer to the Kenyan revolution? By name, no less. For that matter, why would an Indonesian background foment any anger towards the Brits? Indonesia was never under British rule.

Also, given that it is public knowledge that Obama's father ditched when he was 3 years old, there is no credibility to the notion that he would have grown up hearing "that the British were a bunch of imperialists." From who? The never-a-British-colony Indonesians? Or perhaps from the rampant anti-British Hawaiian population? Or maybe from his Kansas-bred mom. Still a lot of hard feelings over the Colonial days in Kansas, I guess.

No, Huckabee was clearly trying to play the Kenya Card, pandering to the wingnut birthers. He stooped low and he got caught. I'd expect this kind of tripe from Newt or Palin. Now I know Huckles is just like the others. Shame, shame!

thrh wrote:
""So Mr/Ms EMI KOWALUME knows for a FACT that Mr. Soetoro is an American citizen. I have a hard time believing that anyone with the name EMI KOWALUME is an American citizen - and another thing, when did the Compost get in bed with "Media Matters?"

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Daly? Sounds like a Mick to me!"
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G**D***ed Correct, Sir - and during the time my ancestors migrated to the US (legally, might I add) I surmise that the KOLAMOLUWEs were still running through the Kenyan savanna with bones through their noses chucking spears at water buffaloes.

As far as the Harvard Law Review, please repost one single article with his as the byline - you can't because there are none. You don't find it odd that the editor of a prestigious publication never published a single article. The answer comes form the FACT that editors usually are reserved the privilege of addressing the most controversial of topics. Needless to say - the HLR is not going to give that task to this imbecile.

Lastly, you inaccurately use the word Professor to describe Obama's position at U of Chicago when in actuality, Obama was a professor. More than parsing or merely semantics - he basically was an invited speaker, nothing more and nothing less.

I am, basically, a center-right independent in my politics. I am exactly the type of voter without whom the Republicans have no chance of winning an election.

I truly believe that our Republic exists to guarantee our rights and as much individual liberty as possible. I am, of course, opposed to left-wing attempts to use the power of the state to tell me what I can eat or what I can say. I am EQUALLY opposed to those who would use the power of the state to force their religion upon us, to use public funds for prostelyzation, presume to tell us whom we can love and so on and for exactly the same reason: the government simply has no business so interfering in the citizen's personal life and decisions. I will not therefore vote for Palin, Huckabee, Gingrich or any other politician who can't seem to separate their politics from their religion.

And before some poster or another accuses me of being a 'liberal in disguise' because they don't like what I am saying, please know that I've been posting here for years, that everything I've ever written is availible in my profile, so please check it before you question my own assessment of my own politics.

So, again, take it for what it is worth, Republicans: don't nominate a religious rightist if you want any chance of attracting people like myself with whom you will never win and never have.

"So Mr/Ms EMI KOWALUME knows for a FACT that Mr. Soetoro is an American citizen. I have a hard time believing that anyone with the name EMI KOWALUME is an American citizen - and another thing, when did the Compost get in bed with "Media Matters?"

@ICGE: "There are some facts that we can all agree on. Pres. Obama was raised by his Mom, Grandmother and Grandfather. These loving parents were the constants in his life. He would then have derived the majority of his values from those loving parents. His Dad was not as involved in raising Pres. Obama and therefore neither were his father's family. Given that those who raised Pres. Obama were White, why is there so much attention on the those that are Black and not really involved with his upbringing."
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Typical liberal Compost reader - boils everything down to race. I don't care if they were PURPLE - what matters is they were all registered members of the American Communist Party, and that's how we ended up with a Manchurian Candidate in the White House!

What a stupid, right-wing imbecile!
In the first place the Brits were a bunch of f.u.c.k.i.n.g imperialists. F.uckabee, should know better as we once were also the victims of British imperialism (the idiot has never heard of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, or the Declaration of Independence).
At this stage, this evangelical idiot should shut the f.u.c.k. up.

Huckabee's aide was running damage control. Huckabee didn't mis-speak. He was either attempting to make idiots believe Obama was raised in Kenya or Huckabee really thought that. He made repeated reference to the Brits. Kenya was colonized by the Brits; Indonesia was Dutch. Either way, Huckabee revealed deep ignorance unworthy of being POTUS.

First of all, anyone paying attention should have known President Obama did not grow up in Kenya. Matter of fact, the whole point of his best-selling book was that he had few actual ties to his father or Kenya at all.

I _do_ agree that spending so much time in Indonesia has affected the President's world view. But if you are talking "where his liberal policies come from", a majority of Americans voted for him, and the vast majority of them grew up in the US. Martin O'Malley is selling Maryland down the river to illegals, but to my knowledge, he grew up in Takoma Park (hey -- that explains it!).

On the whole, Americans like their Presidents to be knowledgeable. Or at least, not dopes. So that seems to exclude Mr. Huckabee.

Very briefly, “US Citizenship” can be acquired through naturalization, or by birth; and is conferred by location (jus soli), or by blood (jus sangunis) of one US Citizen parent. But US Natural-Born Citizenship is acquired by both jus soli and by jus sanguinis of both US Citizen parents.

The US Congress has not defined US Natural-born Citizen in the US Codes, but a letter to George Washington and some Supreme Court cases help:

John Jay letter to George Washington, 25 July 1787
“Permit me to hint whether it would not be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of foreigners into the administration of our national government; and to declare expressly that the command in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on any but a natural born citizen.”

In United States v. Rhodes (1866), Mr. Justice Swayne, sitting in the Circuit Court, said:
"all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens.” [This would rule out dual-citizens from being natural-born citizens.]

Show, exactly, where the Constitution bears out your blithering assertions, bonus points for focusing on where, exactly, the Constitution requires both parents to be US citizens for a child to also be considered a US citizen.

Further, why would Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Sarah Palin and the US Supreme Court all give Obama a free pass during the Democratic primaries and then the general election, and the US Supreme Court afterwards, if he wasn't a US citizen?

Even better, teabagging US Senators like Jim DeMint didn't object when the Senate certified the election results, so why didn't ANY Republican Senator complain at that time, if Obama really isn't a US citizen?

And why have none of the Congressional Republicans signed on to legal challenges regarding Obama's citizenship, sure seems like a slap in the face of the teabaggers who helped get them elected.

Obama's a US citizen, he's President, and there's nothing the blathering Bizarroworld birthers can do to change that reality, not a thing.

Aren't you asking too much when you expect Governor Huckabee to know the difference between Kenya and Indonesia? Neither is mentioned in either the Old or the New Testament (nor is evolution, democracy or the Constitution). Give him some points for at least knowing they are geographic locations. Whether he could locate them on a map is another matter. Mau Maus in Indonesia? Contrary to his spokesperson's trying to clean up this mess, he did not simply "misspeak." No, he has an elaborate fantasy about Obama that underlines for his congregation how unAmerican the President is. Huckabee's aw-shucks everyman pose is just that. He's a nice-sounding Lee Atwater on a mission to discredit the President.
It's interesting to see how when one of their "leaders" comes off as a total ignoramus, the Birthers immediately scurry off to their favorite legal-sounding but empty arguments.

Kenya, Indonesia what's the difference? Obama grew up outside the USA and therefore his inability to tap into the American people has been a HUGE problem for him. He really doesn't think like most Americans and it comes from not growing up within our same culture. Which is why he usually sits opposite the majority opinion on most issues.

I don't think it was malicious on Huckabee's part. He's just *that* ignorant. We're talking about a guy here who responded to the assassination of Bhutto by talking about illegal immigration from Pakistan. He's astoundingly unqualified to be president, just like everyone else in the GOP field except possibly Daniels or Romney.

Typical of these guys. They latch onto one word - "Kenya" - about a guy and spin a whole story from it in their imaginations, with absolutely no idea whether what they imagined is anywhere near the truth or not. Just one step away from the birth-nuts.

Aren't you asking too much from Governor Huckabee? Neither Kenya nor Indonesia (to say nothing of evolution, democracy or the Internet) are mentioned in the Bible. Why should you expect Huckabee to be aware of any of these things? Give him credit for at least picking up that Kenya and Indonesia are geographic locations. It's too much for him also to have to know they're not the same place. Mau Maus in Indonesia. Scary!
More seriously, it's fascinating to watch the Obama haters scurry to their favorite, contorted non-legal but highly legal sounding arguments about Obama's nationality when one of their own comes off as a total ignoramus.

There are some facts that we can all agree on. Pres. Obama was raised by his Mom, Grandmother and Grandfather. These loving parents were the constants in his life. He would then have derived the majority of his values from those loving parents. His Dad was not as involved in raising Pres. Obama and therefore neither were his father's family. Given that those who raised Pres. Obama were White, why is there so much attention on the those that are Black and not really involved with his upbringing? This question must be answered honestly by all; especially those who callously toss around references to Kenya, Mau Mau, & Indonesia.

2012Frank wrote: "I know very little about Barack Obama which is extremely odd since he has been President for over two years. He is an enigma who does not relate with the folks so he has to ply them with lies and promises of a payoff if they vote for him."
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Look out, 2012Frank, Media Matters will have a fatwa out on you for calling Mr. Soetoro an "enigma."

The media and reporters need to stop justifying when these politicans lie. There is no question that everyone knows that Pres. Obama spent the majority of his life in HI. He spent a few years in Indonesia.

Check your facts--A child born IN THE US, and especially who has at least ONE PARENT is a NATURALIZED CITIZE. PERIOD!!! It does't matter what coutry the other parent is from. HAWAII IS A STATE IN THE U.S.!!!

I like Mike Huckabee and people know who he is and what his values are. He relates to the American middle class. He is a strong Christian, honest, kind and experienced.

I know very little about Barack Obama which is extremely odd since he has been President for over two years. He is an enigma who does not relate with the folks so he has to ply them with lies and promises of a payoff if they vote for him.

When I compare Obama and Huckabee and think about our own and our children's future, there is little doubt who I would consider the more promising for America.

If he mixed up Indonesia and Kenya how does that explain when he says "...if you think about it, his perspective as growing up in Kenya with a Kenyan father and grandfather, their view of the Mau Mau Revolution in Kenya..." That is very Kenya specific.

This is simply the usual GOP bigotry and lies. Not very cool for such a devote Christian. And a pretty stupid thing to say and the excuse is even more retarded

So Mr/Ms EMI KOWALUME knows for a FACT that Mr. Soetoro is an American citizen. I have a hard time believing that anyone with the name EMI KOWALUME is an American citizen - and another thing, when did the Compost get in bed with "Media Matters?"

Stanley Ann Dunham, Obama’s mother, was born on November 29, 1942. In 1959, Barack Obama, Sr, his father, was awarded a scholarship from an American program offering Western educational opportunities. At the age of 23 Barack Obama Sr. leaves behind his pregnant Kenyan wife Kezia and their baby son and arrives in the United States to study math and economics at the University of Hawaii, Honolulu. Near the last week of October 1960 to first weeks of November 1960, the conception of Barack Obama Jr. occurred. At the time of their wedding in February 1961, Ann Dunham is already three months pregnant with Barack Obama, Jr., and she doesn’t know Barack Obama Sr. has a wife and children in Kenya. The couple settles in Honolulu. Newlyweds Barack Sr. and Ann, being students had a Summer Break from school and didn’t need to be back on campus until September. They had motive to visit his parents in Kenya. Did they go to Kenya and get stuck until Obama was born? On November 29, 1961 Ann Obama turned 19. Is it possible Barack Hussein Obama II, was born in Kenya, and the birth was later recorded in Honolulu? Yes.

In 1961, Barack Obama Sr., was in the US on a non-immigrant student visa, and he had a home (permanent residence) in Kenya British Protectorate which "he had no intention of abandoning."

Barack Hussein Obama II, was born on August 4, 1961.
Assuming he was born in Hawaii, then he was born in the US jus soli, subject to the 14th Amendment, and he was also born to a British citizen father and subject to the British Nationality Act 1948, so he is a first-generation jus sanguinis UK citizen. Since Barack Hussein Obama II, was born a first-generation UK citizen, not a naturalized UKC, living in the US, he remained a British citizen in the eyes of the British government, until Kenya Independence on December 12, 1963. On December 12, 1963, with Kenya Independence, Barack Obama Sr. and Barack Hussein Obama II lost UK Citizenship, and converted to Kenya nationality. Barack Hussein Obama II, became a dual USA/Kenya Citizen. On March 6, 1964, his parent's divorce granted Barack Obama Sr. "reasonable visitation, with child support TBD", thus by connections Barack Hussein Obama II, remained a dual USA/Kenya Citizen.

RGee1 what is different today is that in spite of economic or social challenges, Liberals refuse to take responsibility. Obama had the entire government for two years and could not lead! Instead we get a Pelosi driven socialistic health-care program that is both costly and unwanted - except by those entitlement driven who live off the taxpayers.

The mid-terms were a reflection of an angry electorate fed up with the "free lunch" crowd spending away our children and grandchildren's future!

Still ignoring the electorate, Obama looks to succeed with division - specifically race and class warfare. The socialistic support for Union Thugs is not support of the middle class, that has no need of Unions, it is rather support of Union Thug Leadership that has raped their members of dues to back Obama's re-election.

The mid-terms spoke loud and clear - STOP SPENDING, repeal Obamacare, and stimulate private sector job growth. All of which Liberals continue to ignore as they play their blame game.

The most disturbing thing here is that someone who is asking to be taken seriously on the National stage is willing to say things that he either has no idea as to the truth or accouracy or were just made up on the spot. Not only were the statements about Kenya completely wrong but the comments about the President's attitudes toward the British are equally as irresponsible and bizarre. If President Obama made a public statement that Mike H grew up in Turkey and accordingly had a bad view of British due to Gallipoli, people would suggest that the President was certifiable -- why is this any different?

This is the result of a 'faith-based' world that has been imposed on America since Raygun. Facts don't matter. Proof isn't need. Data is irrelevant. What you believe is all that counts. Birthers believe that Obama isn't a valid president so, in their minds he never will be. Evangelicals believe in the literal Bible, and so it is Truth. Never mind scientific reality, Evolution isn't real, Global warming isn't real. Obama grew up in Kenya (even though he didn't visit until he was in hi 20's) is just another delusion they cling to.

bcamp55 wrote...
You would have to be someone who is pretty stupid or extremely easy to impress if you think he has such a capability or capacity.

(referring to the President)

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So, you're referring to roughly half of the voting citizens of the U.S. who voted for him in 2008. Millions upon millions of voters who are either "pretty stupid or extremely easy to impress", simply because they don't agree with you?

Look Obama is doing a great job and considering the destruction Bush and the GOP wrought during their decades of reign starting with Nixon no one could have done any better and Mr. McCain and Ms. Palin would have just been more of the same.

The real problem with the haters is the fact that Obama is successful in many things from saving the economy as the Republicans left to us with huge WAR and TAX BREAK deficits.

Huckabee is a huckster obviously. How does he feel about union busting? How would he create jobs? How would he take care of our veterans? How would he take care of big business? Will the Koch Brothers fund his campaign? There's lots of questions to be answered. Who would his VP be? Palin or Newt Gingrich? Maybe Karl Rove? That's like letting the foxes (pun intended) into the White I mean hen house.

RGee1.........Bcamp55 wrote.....RGee1......But it's ok to call people "morons" who "look pretty f---ing stupid", and calling our elected president an "imbecile". I understand now.
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My friend, when someone cast all persons in a single lot because of the comments of one person, there are no measures of congeniality required when addressing them.

And if you don't think Obama is an imbecile who has to be spoon fed all but the simplest of tasks, I pity any children you bring into the world because you certainly lack the ability to think objectively. Regardless, I'm glad you understand.

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The measure of my objectivity has nothing to do with the apparent need of some posters to resort to name calling, which was my point. One wrong does not justify another.

I would prefer to have simple, courteous conversations here, but that's difficult when posters can't rise above the need to call our President, and other posters, names. It adds nothing to the discussion and drops to the level of "trolling", that is, making inflammatory comments for the sole purpose of evoking a like reaction out of others.
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Oh, so then I'm sure you can direct me to your condemnation of the not so "courteous" post of your fellow liberal which I called out. No? Didn't think so you partisan hack.

Disappointing because his comments, even the accurate quotes, are shabby. We had hoped that Huckabee would elevate the presidential debate by talking issues rather than personalizing the argument. The "Kenya" "Mau Mau" statements must have had their origin in some Rove-like advice to "get tough", "take the gloves off!" -- not what we would have expected from someone whose graciousness of soul has been so appealing.

hawkeyes1.......bcamp55: You actually think that Obama "is an imbecile who has to be spoon fed all but the simplest of tasks"??????

He was the head of the HARVARD LAW REVIEW! Do you have any idea what that means? It is one of the biggest honors at Harvard Law.

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He was not the "head" of the HLR, he was the editor. Do you have any idea what that means? It means you should EASILY be able to find articles with his byline. It means that he would have the prestigious honor of adding his commentary to the most controversial topics of the time.

You don't find these because his, I believed into an honorary roll, not a functional roll. I believe, once the enlightened souls at Harvard found out what a functional moron he was, all access to actually serving as editor was denied.

Of course we can pretend otherwise but in actuality, there is no other plausible explanation when you can find hundreds of articles from virtually every other HLR editor since the publication began.

Harvards problems was this........Besides just penning his thoughts on very controversial topics(Mahmoud Ahmadinejad speaking on campus for example), as editor, he undoubtedly would have also been called upon to defend his position in numerous extemporaneous formats. You would have to be someone who is pretty stupid or extremely easy to impress if you think he has such a capability or capacity.

Dear No-Bama; the "Competitive Enterprise Institute" is almost totally financed by the Multi-Billionaire KOCH brothers who are trying their best to destroy America as we have known it. They provide billions of dollars to promote the Plutocracy in America. I dare say you are not a member of that elite group. It does demonstrate that you prefer lies that fit your agenda over the truth.

2012frank wrote....
Ok, Daisy77, let's not worry if Obama was born in the US or if his golf game is suffering and he desperately needs another vacation. Let's focus on important things!

The massive waste going on with Federal taxpayer dollars, as reported by the GAO today: "This report confirms what most Americans assume about their government. We are spending trillions of dollars every year and nobody knows what we are doing. The executive branch doesn't know. The congressional branch doesn't know. Nobody knows," said Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla.

The study found 33 areas with "overlap and fragmentation" in the federal government. Among them, it found:

-- More than 2,100 data centers -- up from 432 a little more than a decade ago -- across 24 federal agencies. GAO estimated the government could save up to $200 billion over the next decade by consolidating them.

-- Twenty programs across seven agencies dealing with homelessness. The report found $2.9 billion spent on the programs in 2009. "Congress is often to blame" for fragmentation, GAO wrote in this section, explaining that the duplicative programs in multiple agencies cause access problems for potential participants.

-- Eighty-two "distinct" teacher-quality programs across 10 agencies. Many of them have "duplicate sub-goals," GAO said. Nine of them address teacher quality in the fields of science, technology, engineering and math.

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Ok, so, you do understand that a great deal of the overlap is caused by the Congress itself, many of whose members refuse to let departments merge because it would mean loss of clout to their committees. Presidents of both parties have tried to merge departments, and the Congress refuses to go along in most cases.

I heard Huckabee speak at a Baptist Christian retreat two years ago and was really impressed with his message. I have always said that good people run in political elections and some of them are elected but they change drastically. This is a good example of that. I wonder now if this is the same man. It is not for me to judge him, that will come at a time unknown. But I wonder if the man was the same of it politics has changed him that much. I was so impressed with the man two years ago but am very disappointed with what he has become.

I was initially tempted to dismiss this as simply a slip of the tongue, until I saw that Huckabee had referred to the Mau Mau Uprising in one of the references to Obama supposedly being raised in Kenya.

Nope, it's not "an innocent mistake." This was deliberate. Sleazy! I've completely lost respect for Huckabee. I would never have voted for him, based on his political positions, but I did at least think that he was a decent guy. Now I wouldn't even say that.

This is part of a concerted and continuous GOP campaign to convince the American people that the President is "not one of us." Consider that the fundamentalist Christian tradition that began with Darby in the 19th century makes a clear delineation between the saved and the damned, us and them. This Manichean view of the world was reflected in the politics of Pat Robertson to an earlier generation and now in the politics of Tim Pawlenty, Sarah Palin, and Mike Huckabee.

Ok, Daisy77, let's not worry if Obama was born in the US or if his golf game is suffering and he desperately needs another vacation. Let's focus on important things!

The massive waste going on with Federal taxpayer dollars, as reported by the GAO today: "This report confirms what most Americans assume about their government. We are spending trillions of dollars every year and nobody knows what we are doing. The executive branch doesn't know. The congressional branch doesn't know. Nobody knows," said Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla.

The study found 33 areas with "overlap and fragmentation" in the federal government. Among them, it found:

-- More than 2,100 data centers -- up from 432 a little more than a decade ago -- across 24 federal agencies. GAO estimated the government could save up to $200 billion over the next decade by consolidating them.

-- Twenty programs across seven agencies dealing with homelessness. The report found $2.9 billion spent on the programs in 2009. "Congress is often to blame" for fragmentation, GAO wrote in this section, explaining that the duplicative programs in multiple agencies cause access problems for potential participants.

-- Eighty-two "distinct" teacher-quality programs across 10 agencies. Many of them have "duplicate sub-goals," GAO said. Nine of them address teacher quality in the fields of science, technology, engineering and math.

Aside from the ignorant claim about Obama, please take note of Huckabee's equally ignorant scoffing at Britain's imperialism in Kenya. The British opened up their Kenyan archives a few years ago and historians have since then documented British torture of Kenyans, not to mention British economic imperialism. Well, perhaps Huckabee knows that but thinks it is acceptable, given U.S. imperialism (e.g. taking Native American homelands, half of Mexico, etc. not to mention enslavement of Africans brought here as prisoners - the small percentage that survived the tortuous journey). Presumably Huckabee would similarly disqualify from office the descendant of slaves, a Hispanic U.S. citizen, or a Native American with a "different" view of his mythical history.

Aside from the ignorant claim about Obama, please take note of Huckabee's equally ignorant scoffing at Britain's imperialism in Kenya. The British opened up their Kenyan archives a few years ago and historians have since then documented British torture of Kenyans, not to mention British economic imperialism. Well, perhaps Huckabee knows that but thinks it is acceptable, given U.S. imperialism (e.g. taking Native American homelands, half of Mexico, etc. not to mention enslavement of Africans brought here as prisoners - the small percentage that survived the tortuous journey). Presumably Huckabee would similarly disqualify from office the descendant of slaves, a Hispanic U.S. citizen, or a Native American with a "different" view of his mythical history.

Bcamp55 wrote.....RGee1......But it's ok to call people "morons" who "look pretty f---ing stupid", and calling our elected president an "imbecile". I understand now.
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My friend, when someone cast all persons in a single lot because of the comments of one person, there are no measures of congeniality required when addressing them.

And if you don't think Obama is an imbecile who has to be spoon fed all but the simplest of tasks, I pity any children you bring into the world because you certainly lack the ability to think objectively. Regardless, I'm glad you understand.

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The measure of my objectivity has nothing to do with the apparent need of some posters to resort to name calling, which was my point. One wrong does not justify another.

I would prefer to have simple, courteous conversations here, but that's difficult when posters can't rise above the need to call our President, and other posters, names. It adds nothing to the discussion and drops to the level of "trolling", that is, making inflammatory comments for the sole purpose of evoking a like reaction out of others.

Running to the President's defense is an exercise in futility when there is a close-minded sector of the electorate who wouldn't believe the truth about the President if it bit them on their behind. Of course, they never read Dream of My Father and only subscribe to the Glenn Beck reinterpretation of history which anyone with half a brain knows is full of conspiracy theories and incendiary rhetoric. As far as I am concerned, the President was born in Hawaii, visited Kenya for the first time before he entered Harvard, is a Christian. For me, the subject is closed. Let the rest of the fools come up with their silly tall tales. I am sure the President could care less that certain fools have nothing wiser to do than create all sorts of fantasies about him. Frankly, I find it so absurd it is comical. Let's worry about real issues and not these fabricated ones.

"Have I mentioned yet that my father was a Kenyan Muslim?"
- Barry the inept bungler
Posted by: screwjob25
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But then screwjob you didn't mention that your parents are certified idiots and you were born with Downs.

so, if he really meant Indonesia, then what would that have to do with a different attitude towards "the Brits"? Certainly by the time Obama lived there the Brits, and the Dutch for that matter, had long been gone.

RGee1......But it's ok to call people "morons" who "look pretty f---ing stupid", and calling our elected president an "imbecile". I understand now.
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My friend, when someone cast all persons in a single lot because of the comments of one person, there are no measures of congeniality required when addressing them.

And if you don't think Obama is an imbecile who has to be spoon fed all but the simplest of tasks, I pity any children you bring into the world because you certainly lack the ability to think objectively. Regardless, I'm glad you understand.

screwjob26 wrote....
The new governor of Hawaii, a personal friend of Barry's, made a big production number about how he was going to search the Hawaiian archives and uncover Barry's original, long-form birth certificate, and show it to the world. That was back in January. On January 20, Neil Abercrombie said Barry's birth certificate "exists" but that he cannot produce it.

That is the UK press, not the leftist WaPo hacks who are in the bag for Barry.

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The whole thing is pretty silly, and old news. The arguments won't change. If the governor locates the original birth certificate, "birthers" will just declare it fake, as they have the so-called "Certificate of live birth". You've got a guy who says he was there when Obama was born; birthers won't believe him. It doesn't matter how much evidence is provided.

I love how the leftist media comes rushing to Lil' Barry Soetoro's defense every time Kenya comes up, when the truth is they have no friggin' idea where he was born or where he grew up, any more than they know what his grades were at Columbia or Harvard.

It is an embarrassment that the US electorate knows so little about Obama - about the man or his character. Worse, that what we do know about his policies and programs, reveal him to be just another empty headed socialist.

I'm sorry I've wracked my brain and all I can think to properly characterize this man's comments is - 'moron'. There I said it, Mike Huckabee's blind ambition has led him to this? If he believes this to be true he's ignorant, if he knows better then he's the worst kind of politician.

During WW1 a great friend, of Winston Churchill, managed to unite the ARABS in their fight against an ally of the Hun, the Ottoman Empire!
His name was Lawrence of Arabia.
During WW2 another great friend, of Winston Churchill, led the crusade against the NAZIS.
Of German ancestry, his name was Dwight David Eisenhower.
Churchill had some great friends.
America is proud to call Churchill an honorary citizen.
Is Huckabee?
Clifford Spencer

bcamp55 wrote...
First off moron, a supposedly "brilliant" person would be able to coherently distinguish in the same sentence the difference between a state and a territory.

As far as the Harvard Law Review, please repost one single article with his as the byline - you can't because there are none. You don't find it odd that the editor of a prestigious publication never published a single article. The answer comes form the FACT that editors usually are reserved the privilege of addressing the most controversial of topics. Needless to say - the HLR is not going to give that task to this imbecile.

Lastly, you inaccurately use the word Professor to describe Obama's position at U of Chicago when in actuality, Obama was a professor. More than parsing or merely semantics - he basically was an invited speaker, nothing more and nothing less.

Before you start casting aspersions regarding someone's intelligence or lack thereof, you might want to brush up your facts or you look pretty f----ing stupid yourself.

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But it's ok to call people "morons" who "look pretty f---ing stupid", and calling our elected president an "imbecile". I understand now.

The new governor of Hawaii, a personal friend of Barry's, made a big production number about how he was going to search the Hawaiian archives and uncover Barry's original, long-form birth certificate, and show it to the world. That was back in January. On January 20, Neil Abercrombie said Barry's birth certificate "exists" but that he cannot produce it.

That is the UK press, not the leftist WaPo hacks who are in the bag for Barry.

The Obama-is-a-Kenyan question has to be the most entertaining divide in the political landscape. We know that Huckabee is not stupid. And lots of people who think like him are not stupid. But they are so insistently blind, selectively ignorant, on this issue that it amazes.

Wellstone.......Idiots. Obama said "57 states" because he had to compete in 57 state primaries and caucuses, including Puerto Rico and the Marianas.

An easy mistake to make, unless you want to "prove" Obama, the elected President of the Harvard Law Review and a Professor of Constitutional Law at the prestigious Law School of the U of Chicago, is sooo stoopid he doesn't even know how many states there are in the Union.

You wingnuts are such dumbasses it's hard to take you even half seriously.
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First off moron, a supposedly "brilliant" person would be able to coherently distinguish in the same sentence the difference between a state and a territory.

As far as the Harvard Law Review, please repost one single article with his as the byline - you can't because there are none. You don't find it odd that the editor of a prestigious publication never published a single article. The answer comes form the FACT that editors usually are reserved the privilege of addressing the most controversial of topics. Needless to say - the HLR is not going to give that task to this imbecile.

Lastly, you inaccurately use the word Professor to describe Obama's position at U of Chicago when in actuality, Obama was a professor. More than parsing or merely semantics - he basically was an invited speaker, nothing more and nothing less.

Before you start casting aspersions regarding someone's intelligence or lack thereof, you might want to brush up your facts or you look pretty f----ing stupid yourself.

Next, Huckabee will be trying to convince us that the earth is flat and that the moon is made of green cheese. This man has been in the clutches of Faux News for too long and their interesting style has infected him. Somebody send the man back to reality school before he puts his whole leg in his mouth.

I think the President should ask Huckabee to put up or shut up. This is ridiculous. If Huckabee's that misinformed, he shouldn't even think about becoming a President. What a loser he is.A shallow, stupid, uninformed fundamentalist minister who hasn't the brains of a bird. No, this man should never even dare come within a mile of the White House.

Just goes to show you that with enough exposure to the Fox bubble even a smart player like Chucklebutt starts to lose his grasp on reality.
Makes you worry about the ability to govern ourselves with such an effective war on information being waged.

Huckabee suggests Obama views the "Brits" differently than the rest of us because the "British were a bunch of imperialists who persecuted his grandfather."

Uh, does Huckabee not remember that the "British were a bunch of imperialists" who persecuted our forefathers and that they fought the "British imperialists" for freedom and independence from Britain during the years 1775 - 1783 just as the peoples of Kenya did during the years 1948 - 1963?

Does Huckabee believe the struggle for freedom and independence is just and honorable for Europeans but not for Africans?

In the 1920s, Hope, Arkansas was known as the lynching capital of Arkansas. Huckabee was born and raised in Hope and his parents and grandparents lived in Hope during its time as the lynching capital of Arkansas.

Does Huckabee view Black Americans "very differently" than the rest of us because his parents and grandparents were traumatized by the spectacle and/or participation of lynchings their friends and neighbors were forced to carry out against a people who had the audacity to struggle for freedom and justice?

Seems Like President Obama has a lot in common then - with the Founding Fathers of the United States who also liberated themselves from the Imperial British! Ha! Ha! Ha! Why is it that Southern Conservatives can never get it quite right in their heads? Time after time - this groups continues to demonstrate a shallow understanding of history, reason, and good manners

Well, I just quickly read all of the above comments, which appear to concur with my own - that Huckabee is wrong. WHat right does the man have to even consider being a presidential candidate when he cannot even speak the truth and alludes to what is a blatant lie? Was he half asleep when he said that? Perhaps if he ever gets to the point of debating Obama, he will be just as sleepy and stupid. Huckabee, the other Republicans, orange-faced John Boehner, the TeaPartiers, The NEWT, Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman and all of the rest of these moronic idiots - why don't they simply shut their stupid mouths and stop badmouthing Obama. He is a brilliant man - they are all ignorami!! I am so tired of hearing them opening their mouths and inserting their feet. It is becoming outrageous to hear people of this ilk - and, oh lest I forget - fear mongers Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh - publicly pronounce outright lies, and then have half of the country believe what these morons are telling them.

Also, can we just say "Huckabee lied" instead of this mealy-mouthed "claimed inaccurately" bullcrap? He lied. He knows full well that Obama is a native-born US citizen who never grew up in Kenya, and he lied. Plain and simple. "Got his facts wrong," no, he lied.

Stupid is as stupid does. When you are trying to attract a 35-40% racist audience this is what you say. Real men get their facts straight and do not ( like Fox) knowingly put out the wrong information. He did this on purpose as Fox put up wrong poll numbers. Hopefully only the terminally dumb do not know our president's life story and his history of being raised in Hawaii by his grand parents.

He reached a new low today for a party that is grabbing at any straw to push FEAR their biggest card since the 50s. Fear of anyone or any group that does not think like you look like you or smell like you.

Obama is an enigma. No one REALLY knows much about the guy or where he was born or raised.

It is an embarrassment that the electorate knows so little about a President personally - about the man or his character. Worse, that what we do know about his policies and programs, reveal him to be just another empty headed socialist.

The "57 states", and the born-in-Kenya Marxist Muslim things are about the only ideas they have left, and they're pretty moth-eaten by now. At least they seem to have given up on the teleprompter deal- I guess they finally noticed that just about all public speakers use them. Come on, guys, come up with something new! Don't let Glen Beck do all your work for you.

Idiots. Obama said "57 states" because he had to compete in 57 state primaries and caucuses, including Puerto Rico and the Marianas.

An easy mistake to make, unless you want to "prove" Obama, the elected President of the Harvard Law Review and a Professor of Constitutional Law at the prestigious Law School of the U of Chicago, is sooo stoopid he doesn't even know how many states there are in the Union.

You wingnuts are such dumbasses it's hard to take you even half seriously.

Right-wingers (Republicans) are busy dismantling the United States and turning us into a third-world debtor nation with rationed health care, unaffordable education, almost a quarter of our population unemployed or homeless and approaching poverty.

And all of this is happening as violent lawlessness is rising amid disbanded police departments with an armed-to-the-teeth delusional right-wing mob (racist Teabagger morons) embracing this new anarchy.

The Teapublicans revel in the mess they have built for us.

The right-wingers (Republicans) broke my country and are throwing the pieces onto the trash heap of history, and they are proud of it.

Republicans must have very low self-esteem and very little confidence in the strength of American ways of thinking, since so many of them believe that a couple of years in an Indonesian school and a Kenyan father he almost never saw had a stronger influence on president Obama than being raised by his mother and his grandparents from Kansas.

Mentally, President Obama is a white man who spent a few years of his childhood abroad. He had to learn to "be black", and he has a great wife who helped him bridge the gap. So you have black AND white in the White House, and they are bright people too – what could be better for America?

What lunacy. That's it for Huck in my opinion. Any serious person, black or white, who has studied British colonialism in Kenya knows that the British over-reaction to conditions there in the fifties (partly to satisfy land grabs that would help save the colony) resulted in huge numbers of innocent Kenyans being slapped into concentration camps and killed; some estimates put the numbers of deaths well over 50k. In any case, Huck is playing on old racial stereotypes and should be roundly condemned for both this distortion and stupidly feeding red meat to the loonies in his party. Imagine this guy near the red button....

I grew up in the cracker South with two Irish great grandfathers who taught us to hate the English. My family members are also patriotic Americans who hate the Yankees that invaded us. (I so hope that a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.)

"Social justice" is an entirely arbitrary concept that could only exist in the warped brains of bien-pensant compulsive meddlers. The correct response is "Whose social justice?" An NAACP activist's definition of "social justice" might well differ from that of a KKK member; an eco-campaigner's view of "social justice" will surely be different from that of someone from the Competitive Enterprise Institute. It is entirely typical of the sublime arrogance and blinkered bigotry of liberals that they imagine the irversion of "social justice" is the correct one. This, in itself, is more than reason enough to show why liberals, like Obama, should never be allowed anywhere near State office...

I'll take my "justice" straight up, without any prefixes, as established in a rule of law based on Christian principles in a democratic state.

AAAHHH,,WHO CARES WERE OBAMA IS FROM,,THE FACT IS HE IS WEAK,,I MEAN WHAT HAS THIS GUY REALLY DONE TO HELP US OVER THE LAST 2.5 YEARS, NOTHING, HE TAKES EVERY CHANCE HE GETS TO BAD MOUTH (HIS COUNRTY) HE COULD CARE LESS ABOUT CREATING JOBS,,GITMO FORGOTTEN,,HE IS BENT ON STICKING US WITH HEATHCARE REDTAPE AND EXSESIVE COST UNTIL WE DIE,,HE IS A TOTAL WUUUSY EMBARRESSMENT ON THE WORLD STAGE,,HE DOESNT EVEN HAVE THE GUTS TO BLOW THOSE SAMOLI PIRATES OUT OF THE WATER,,,HE IS TOOO WORRIED ABOUT WHAT EVERYONE AROUND THE WORLD WILL THINK,,,MMMM WEEE WHAT A CRY BABY,,,WE NEED A REAL MAN AS PRESIDENT,,

Ok What is this so-called preacher/Governor is saying: Americans love the Brits and they have every reason to, while Kenyans on the other hand, hate the Brits and they have no reason to. This guy Huckabee is playing racial politics and he is sending his signals to the right wing of his party, who are hate-filled and dumb. If America loved the tyranny and imperialism of the Brits so much, why did she revolt agains them. Kenyans, oppression and abuse by the Brits were excessive and that is the reason for harboring justifiable hatred

Didn't Mike Huckabee grow up in the cracker South where a lot folks still seem to want to pledge allegiance to a foreign Confederate slave flag, want their alleged Constitutionally guaranteed "darkies" back and given their confusing allegiance to this foreign Confederate slave flag are they really any different than those other foreign Mexican"anchor babies" born in the USA but not really loyal to the Stars and Stripes. Is Mike Huckabee really a loyal US citizen, or just the spawn of Confederate "anchor babies"? Can he Pledge of Allegiance to the Stars and Stripes or his he a closet traitor with mixed allegiances?

Hawaii publicity stunt to sell copy's of Barry's alleged birth certificate for $100 a pop fails after a search of the state archives reveals there is no original long form birth certificate in the archives.

HI lawmaker: Obama birth certificate bill tabled

By MARK NIESSE, Associated Press – Thu Feb 17, 7:51 pm ET
HONOLULU – A proposal to sell copies of President Barack Obama's birth records to anyone for $100 is going nowhere in the Hawaii Legislature.
The bill died when it didn't get a hearing before a Friday deadline for bills to advance to their final committees.

Sorry to disappoint you, Nobama (and your fellow haters and conspiracy theorists), but the "57 state" slip WAS widely reported in the W. Post and other mainstream media. Of course, the main reason it was news is because it was so uncharacteristic of Pres. Obama's speech.

By the way, it says a lot that the president's critics have to reach that far back to find such gaffes. Desperate, much?

The "honest mistake" claim that is forthcoming from the Huckabee camp is going to be tough to believe since he wasn't making the Kenyan claim as a passing comment. It was in the context of how that fictional upbringing altered his foreign policy views. You can't make this comment in the context of the discussion they were having and have it be a slip of the tongue.

I think an earlier poster was close to the mark when he/she said that it was a designed "mistake" to elicit a specific response from people who are likely to vote for him in the primaries or tune into his TV show.

They all get their views from books written by third parties about someone else's upbringing or background. Who is Huckabee to speculate about what Obama's father and grandfather may or may not have believed? What makes him believe that he has any insight into their minds or beliefs? "Huckabee probably hates the Stars and Stripes. Considering that he's from Arkansas, which still glorifies the Stars and Bars in its current flag, I doubt that Huckabee would love the Star and Stripes as much as most Americans."

Candidate Obama said he campaigned in 57 States....why didn't the leftist "media" talk about that? What's the difference between Obama claiming he was going to keep unemployment below 8% and Mike Huckabees claim that President Obama was raised in Kenya?

The "media" in the country is DEAD! So called "writers" like Emi Kolawole, are nothing more than shills for a party...in this case, Emi is a shill for the radical, lefist, America killing pigs.

Gov Huckabee knows where the President was born, this was another effort to paint Obama as the "other". An old deep seated belief of racist white Americans that blacks aren't real Americans pervades this odd argument by the birthers. Since the N word is no longer acceptable Kenyan has been chosen by these new racist.

Mike Huckabee is a joke. The man is a bloated imbecile and his great "family values" produced a son who tortured a dog to death for fun. He should do great in the GOP Primary because they are looking for his type, someone who thinks stupidity is an asset.

I was just wondering when Huckabee's stupidity would be blatantly visible. Believing Obama grew up in Kenya is as bad as believing earth was created 6000 years ago.

How is it possible that a man in his position - that anyone on the planet who is literate, actually - could have missed President Obama's bio? And how is it even remotely possible that someone that disoriented is seriously considered to run for president?

Uh, yeah. I think Huckabee just did his potential run some damage. Too bad for him because he's a likable enough guy, but this just brings to mind his stance on intelligent design/evolution and just the very fast-and-loose way he views the world in general.

While I had no intention of voting for him, I used to regard Mike Huckabee as a decent man and a plausible candidate for the presidency. God, was I wrong! Still, it will be fascinating to see whether this incident pushes his stock up or down among the GOP faithful...

He speculates on what the Pres of the United States believes and imagines conversations about British Imperialism between Obama, his Dad and Grandad. All the while founding this make believe world on an inaccurate claim that Obama was raised in Kenya . . .

This all fits in with the Fox News/GOP willful of creation of fantasy in the minds of their watchers/voters. They like to further paranoid delusions regarding our president's intentions and motivation. This makes the President seem less American, more Mulism-ish, and just not like you and me.

This is getting really annoying. Republicans have no shame and seem to be unable to speak the truth on any subject relating to the President's youth. Clearly it is party policy to lie about the President in order to inflame the rednecks, who have demonstrated an insatiable appetite for this kind of guff. The reason? Racism. Is the press calling on Huckabee to retract this crap? Oh, that's right, as a Fox news personality he is the press.

Sham Wow... ! I guess growing up in Arkansas means Huckaby has a different view of Indians than the British do... or Mexicans. Anyway, just answered the question why you can't consider a bigot seriously for the Presidency. They don't even pretend to represent all the people--they represent the lowest common denominator.

It is amazing that Huckelbuck claims to be an ordained minister of the Gospel, but has no problem lying like a rug because he hates that a black family is living in the White House. He knows what he said is a LIE, but what the heck when you aspire to an office you are not qualified for, any lie will do.
I doubt that the lily white republican party will ever get over being bested by a black man. Obama's win was like twisting a corkscrew into their guts. Perhaps if they had nominated someone equal to Obama, not the senile McCain and that ignorant fool from Wasilla, they could have won the election, but they didn't and the rightwingers are sore losers.

The fact that Huck blathered that Obama was raised in Kenya means that the 18% of the of the U.S. electorate comprised of slack-jawed, simian Teabaggers will believe it as an article of faith. Glenn Beck probably will repeat it tonight.

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