In this thread we have a bunch of dumb fucks trying to be intelligent speaking of things that they dont know of and they have no proof of the things they say, but i will say one thing to you professors there are no accidents everything happens for a reason, now dont think of god as a person like a getbigger who post crap on this site but as a being of force and power that creates.

In this thread we have a bunch of dumb fucks trying to be intelligent speaking of things that they dont know of and they have no proof of the things they say, but i will say one thing to you professors there are no accidents everything happens for a reason, now dont think of god as a person like a getbigger who post crap on this site but as a being of force and power that creates.

The more I read into quantum physics and the zero point field, the more I believe. And before you rattle off your typical "GetBigger" stance on the topic replete with your barbs of "fairy tale" and other nonsense...I heartily recommend you become familiar with layman quantum mechanics.

Christ! Not another one... First of all, there's no such thing as "layman quantum mechanics" anymore than there is a such a thing as "brain surgery for dummies." As for your recommendation, I would recommend you actually take a couple of years of graduate level mathematics and physics courses to gain the proper foundation to begin to discuss quantum mechanics.

It's actually mind blowing. So? There was a big bang? What was going on before that? (Science has *crickets*) There was nothing? And then..all the sudden...there was something? The Universe? How does that logically differ from.."HEY THERE WAS A FAIRY TALE MAN AND HE MADE THE UNIVERSE"?

So much idiocy in so few words - it's almost painful. So basically your argument (and I use the term loosely) is: "science can't answer the question 'what was going on before the Big Bang" and that's no different than saying 'HEY THERE WAS A FAIRY TALE MAN AND HE MADE THE UNIVERSE'?" Really? You see no difference in saying: "we do not have the answer" to saying "by vigorous hand-waving, goddidit!" Perhaps you should stop reading about quantum mechanics and read a bit about basic logic, or take an introductory course at your local Community College.

I'll also add that your statement assumes that the question "what was going on before the Big Bang" makes sense... Time and temporal causality are properties of the Universe we exist in. The very word "before" is meaningless in the context you're trying to use it. You might as well be asking: "what was going on potatoes the Big Bang?"

So, you non God fearing heathens..you're telling me..that (best science you got, btw) there was nothing and BANG!!! THERE WAS SOMETHING!!

Actually, not all non God-fearing heathens say the same thing. But that's not important. What's important is what science says. And it says two things: (a) the term before the Big Bang is meaningless and (b) we do not know the answer to the question, even if we try to conjure up what the term should mean.

Sometimes. But, I must admit that I laugh more at people who claim to "read into quantum physics and the zero point field" and, in the same sentence, demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of the fundamentals of science and logic.

good for you..you've managed to mask your ignorance of quantum psychics so far....

You were asking who believes in God! In regards to quantam mechanics and their discoveries, they are thousands of years too late, the buddhists have been saying this for centuries, that the Universe appears to be a dynamic web of interconnected and inseparable energy patterns, implying that we are not separated they way most people think, everything is interconnected, and separateness does not in fact exist. Nothing NEW here Einstein!

Christ! Not another one... First of all, there's no such thing as "layman quantum mechanics" anymore than there is a such a thing as "brain surgery for dummies." As for your recommendation, I would recommend you actually take a couple of years of graduate level mathematics and physics courses to gain the proper foundation to begin to discuss quantum mechanics.

So much idiocy in so few words - it's almost painful. So basically your argument (and I use the term loosely) is: "science can't answer the question 'what was going on before the Big Bang" and that's no different than saying 'HEY THERE WAS A FAIRY TALE MAN AND HE MADE THE UNIVERSE'?" Really? You see no difference in saying: "we do not have the answer" to saying "by vigorous hand-waving, goddidit!" Perhaps you should stop reading about quantum mechanics and read a bit about basic logic, or take an introductory course at your local Community College.

I'll also add that your statement assumes that the question "what was going on before the Big Bang" makes sense... Time and temporal causality are properties of the Universe we exist in. The very word "before" is meaningless in the context you're trying to use it. You might as well be asking: "what was going on potatoes the Big Bang?"

Actually, not all non God-fearing heathens say the same thing. But that's not important. What's important is what science says. And it says two things: (a) the term before the Big Bang is meaningless and (b) we do not know the answer to the question, even if we try to conjure up what the term should mean.

Sometimes. But, I must admit that I laugh more at people who claim to "read into quantum physics and the zero point field" and, in the same sentence, demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of the fundamentals of science and logic.

In this thread we have a bunch of dumb fucks trying to be intelligent speaking of things that they dont know of and they have no proof of the things they say, but i will say one thing to you professors there are no accidents everything happens for a reason

Let's play the platitude game! Is it "event → reason" where → means "causes" or that "reason → event"?

Let's play the platitude game! Is it "event → reason" where → means "causes" or that "reason → event"?

OK... I did think of god as a force. But all the forces I know are caused by something. What's the cause of the Godforce?

To suggest that God was the result of some Cause, puts you in an endless loop, because you will always ask what caused the force that created the godforce and so on it goes indefinitely If you answered that some other force created the Godforce, well the obvious question after that is "What created that"!

To suggest that God was the result of some Cause, puts you in an endless loop, because you will always ask what caused the force that created the godforce and so on it goes indefinitely If you answered that some other force created the Godforce, well the obvious question after that is "What created that"!