tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post2897148525338571655..comments2018-05-15T08:50:04.722-06:00Comments on Atheist Ethicist: Do the Ends Justify the MeansAlonzo Fyfehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05687777216426347054noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-33905348402358456462009-06-11T03:10:29.053-06:002009-06-11T03:10:29.053-06:00Your not the first to point out semantics. Won&#39...Your not the first to point out semantics. Won&#39;t be the last. Simply though, coming from someone obviously far less bright then yourself I cannot justify your argument. There are to many actions with which people don&#39;t think about the end, I believe you know what I mean. The masses is what this statement was for, not the school house philosopher. Law an government live off of small catch phrases such as this to show the people that they cannot just willy nilly do what pleases them.<br /><br />It sure made you think about it though... so it did its jobAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-1913188751810849642008-12-11T18:28:00.000-07:002008-12-11T18:28:00.000-07:00Wonderful post, Alonzo!Wonderful post, Alonzo!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-73284535309433757252008-12-09T12:46:00.000-07:002008-12-09T12:46:00.000-07:00Doug I think that the post you link to shows the v...Doug I think that the post you link to shows the validity of rule utilitarianism. We should act based on rules as that maximizes utility better than situational calculation.<BR/><BR/>Also it shows one of the many flaws in how Overcoming Bias <I>attempts</I> at philosophy.AnonyMoosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-78799783983701340922008-12-09T12:08:00.000-07:002008-12-09T12:08:00.000-07:00In the real world, people claiming their (good) en...In the real world, people claiming their (good) ends justify their (bad) means frequently end up failing to achieve their desired ends, regardless of how certain they are of success. Therefore, <A HREF="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/10/ends-dont-justi.html" REL="nofollow">act as though the ends don't justify the means, even though they would.</A>Doug S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-91237818141825506922008-12-09T11:01:00.000-07:002008-12-09T11:01:00.000-07:00Great argument. A small but important typo"What th...Great argument. A small but important typo<BR/><BR/>"What the person making this objection is saying is that this end (avoiding torture) is so <I>GOOD</I> [<B>bad</B>] that any and all means for realizing it (allowing whatever suffering the torture could have prevented) is justified."martinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16952072422175870627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16594468.post-59727276007108882652008-12-09T08:35:00.000-07:002008-12-09T08:35:00.000-07:00Simply awesome. I've always had a problem with peo...Simply awesome. I've always had a problem with people using that phrase, and I could never figure out exactly what my problem with it was well enough to express it reasonably. Also, all of your explanations of it, in regards to the non-consequentialist theories, are excellent and only further back your view. <BR/><BR/>Keep it up!chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12037727585449630015noreply@blogger.com