Hartleybwas the heart and muscle of our defence last year. He played with a broken nose that was allover his face, he tried against every key forward even if we were getting flogged by his pockets and he has a really really hot GF.

True Hipwoods got some agility for a big weedy kid.2 weeks should have been sufficient, but strike me some of our more mature players over the last 2 weeks have played like halfwits. Hartley would have shown more.

YOu drop McKenna (suspension), you move Goddard to the HBF, you move Langford into the middle, you move Hurley to 3rd tall forward. You play Hartley at FB Ambrose at CHB, Brown and 3rd defender, Hurley as 3rd forward

There hasn't been much word on his VFL form to really warrant him getting back in. Maybe they are putting it to him to develop a part of his game such as attacking of his man. I don't know just an idea as on form you'd be dropping Hurls