It Came From The Internet: FAKE NEWS!

When stuff gets outed as actual fake news, news fakery, hoaxes, it should go into the HOAX bin (the stuff still in the site btw). You might be
able to call that marginalization, but censorship is the banning of certain stuff. Like how you fight tooth and nail to get infowars links banned from
the site.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
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When stuff gets outed as actual fake news, news fakery, hoaxes, it should go into the HOAX bin (the stuff still in the site btw). You might be
able to call that marginalization, but censorship is the banning of certain stuff. Like how you fight tooth and nail to get infowars links banned from
the site.

Could you please link to the most recent example of me fighting "tooth and nail" to get Infowars banned from the site? So, what is your standard for
determining whether or not news is "fake?" ATS prohibits Holocaust Denial. Is that censorship? Do you approve or disapprove, and why?

We're not supposed to discuss site policies. And this isn't the Mud Pit so I wont be roasting you as requested. But if you care to understand fake
news in all its forms, perhaps you actually read "FEATURE 1" & "FEATURE 2" here. They're something of a masters course on the subject.

We're not supposed to discuss site policies. And this isn't the Mud Pit so I wont be roasting you as requested. But if you care to understand
fake news in all its forms, perhaps you actually read "FEATURE 1" & "FEATURE 2" here. They're something of a masters course on the
subject.

Someone capable teaching a master's course can surely explain the difference between a private entity's "policies" and censorship. If a site can ban
certain types of speech or certain types of sources, is that censorship? Why or why not? If so, why do you tolerate it? Do you have other places you
can teach your master classes? If so, would being banned from one site be enough to cause you to go silent? Or would you find other ways to get the
word out?

We all know that a handful of corporations own most of the corporate media. Why won't you move past that to get to more basic principles? There has
always been samizdat publishing. How can you tell what is fact and what is fiction? Not all corporate media is factual, not all samizdat media are
factual. The question is" how do you tell facts from alt-facts?"

Interesting case study you have interjected with this Holocaust Denier issue.

I've seen Syria described as a "genocide" by liberals, the liberal media, in lieu to scapegoating Russia as if it was their fault; their design. The
scapegoating of course is all a twisted denial mechanism about Obama & Hillary etc being treasonous war criminals.

Imagine if there were a social movement bent on trivializing the entire ordeal, all that suffering (see OP), by outright denying it even happened; is
happening.

Think back to the Holocaust Denier thing. I'm pretty sure the bulk of that whole theory came from the modern Neo-Nazi type crowd. Not that they're
even "real" Nazi's, but they like to identify as such while promoting such lunacy. Of course they'd want to create a ruckus over it never even
happened. What kind of monsters even could join up knowing that history? Surely being racist whatever doesn't inherently make people as genocidal
monsters.

So now we have Syria, which is the topic herein. It was engineered by the CIA et al, it was enacted by Obama Hillary McCain Graham, the MSM did their
jobs in selling placating and then running never ending damage control. To do it they've censored any perspectives from their narratives that would
give people the tools needed to even come to this sort of conclusion (as they do with everything involved in American Imperialism). And while they
don't deny the situation exists (its actually good PR for everyone sympathizing with the refugees, and so on), but they are scapegoating it onto
Russia.

Of course modern Neo-Nazi's denying the Holocaust is a bit different because its modern wannabe's doing damage control + conspiracy theories of old
stuff an extinct political party perpetrated. Today its a little different as we have something that is in motion currently, which requires being
perpetually sold to the entire World essentially. So instead of deny it outright they spin up all these insane scapegoat conspiracy theories.

Which is something like what Hitler and the real Nazi Party would have spun into their populace when their schemes were in motion.

So spare us the sideshow. You wanna live up to Nazi media manipulation standards go for it. It's funny though, all those threads you called for,
directly appealed to the staff, to outright ban Infowars links and content from the site. It makes sense since Infowars is the only one of the only
'news' sites any where near MSM league that you could get a view anything like mine here. You also have beef with GlobalResearch.ca, openly labeling
them as an actual arm of the Russian propaganda apparatus, all for being anti-American Imperialism.

So spare us the sideshow. You wanna live up to Nazi media manipulation standards go for it.

I do not applaud you and give you stars, therefore I am a Nazi? Got it.

It's funny though, all those threads you called for, directly appealed to the staff, to outright ban Infowars links and content from the site.

All those threads? You mean that one? Do you really have a false memory that I have started countless threads, or are you deliberately
distorting reality in the strange belief that anyone but us and a Mod are actually following this incomprehensible thread?

It makes sense since Infowars is the only one of the only 'news' sites any where near MSM league that you could get a view anything like mine
here.

Given that Alex Jones has a long history of lying, promoting hoaxes on his radio program, paying people to stage surreal political protests, and
making incendiary statements in the hopes of starting a race war that will destroy America, I hope you can see why I am not unduly impressed with your
"research."

You also have beef with GlobalResearch.ca, openly labeling them as an actual arm of the Russian propaganda apparatus, all for being
anti-American Imperialism.

They are an arm of Russian propaganda! They do not limit themselves to mere Anti-Americanism, either. They try to scrub the blood off Russia's
hands. You will never find coverage of Russian "anti-terror" actions in the Caucuses there, but if an American drone accidentally hits a hospital....
What's more, they also follow the Kremlin's line when it comes to undercutting domestic European affairs. They have a constant flow of commentators
who analyze everything in terms of Eurasianism, the Russian answer to Globalism. Eurasianism is an alternative to the "post war global system" only
insofar as it intends to replace Euro-American dominance with Russian dominance:

Eurasianism is the brainchild of Alexandr Dugin, who has flirted with authoritarian philosophies from both the left and right, eventually inspiring
the "Identarian Movement" which has just crossed onto the anti-terror radar of European authorities. The Identarians are disproportionately well
organized given their numbers, and have ideological links to the alt-right here in the United States. Donald Trump has been caught using misleading
graphics from globalresearch, suggesting that he has been consuming their propaganda; this would explain his penchant for for surrounding himself with
Russian agents... but I digress.

I agree that American imperialism must stop. Will you join me in agreeing that Russian imperialism must also stop?

ETA: You still haven't explained who you would trust to determine whether or not something is "fake news." In Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, and,
now, Turkey, they have government ministries to determine what is "real news." Would you prefer the government truth check your news for you, or would
you rather have a wide range of sources? (Even if most of those sources are controlled by private corporations?)

There was the one you started in Board Business calling for IW to be outright banned from the site. Then you carried on about it for several pages in
my 'WHAT is this "alt-right"?' thread. Then there were multiple threads during the FAKE NEWS push this winter you carried on about censoring those 2
sources. Then most recently there was a story that it was painfully obvious a top mod was called in via ALERT while arriving with the pretense that it
was definitely fabricated news, after you had finally showed up blasting IW for a couple pages as a totally bunk fake hoax kind of news source (which
in your ban IW thread you had been told that without a clear pattern of HOAXES they wouldn't be). That's not counting all the other IW related threads
I've seen you derail, the pages of private messages I'd wager stacks you've sent to the mods about banning them... while that's just the stuff I've
happened to notice and note since late last summer.

In several of the following threads you can be seen in several of them carrying on for pages upon pages upon pages along the lines I just mentioned,
as well as in total bootlicking of the government Ministry of Truth + Corporate Media Lapdog's apoligism / worship.

I had intend to post these in as Appendix, but then didn't want to disrupt the comments with a wall of text,, and then never got around to doing it as
an offshoot tread. But ghere it is:

Ya I saw it. Lemme know when the likes of CNN, or even FOX do the same with say Syria, and finally start calling out the top henchmen for the war
criminals they are. That would be a most surreal day in human history.

Aside from IW, and GR.ca, I suspect only Democracy Now! as far as "news orgs" of any prominence would ever say anything like that. I haven't got
caught up on DN!, although I did see them hitting ObamaHillaryCo. for reviving Operation CONDOR in Latin and South America. They're totally leftist,
maybe play them for a month and at least get a good grip on American Imperialism and then my 'all the MSM are fake perspective war monger news'
position will finally add up.

Come away from the Dark Side, the good guys could use more people with your tenacity.

I followed some of those links. It wasn't easy to read the weak words of weasel woo and made me throw up in my mouth a little. The word 'Punk' kept
coming to mind. With all that gratuitous & sickening bootlicking I wonder if it has any tongue left?

I eventually decided that it's the Turncoat of many colors: Black tongue, brown nose, yellow spine...

So you don't like it when I point out that Infowars is fake news? Now please stop dodging the question: who do you trust to determine whether or not
something is factual? Under what conditions should someone be punished for publishing something?

If Infowars is "fake news", then CNN etc whom you all worship are "FAKE NEWS". Unless you're actually ready & able to refute my OP, refute my series
of over 15 pieces I had to craft to tell the 'story'????

Fine, you want IW to be "racist" "fake news" that needs to be banned from the site, I'll meet you there, just so long as you're ready to admit that
all the corporate criminal MSM is first to be banned, along with all your favored liberal web outlets along the lines of BuzzFeed, Huffington
Puffington post, and so on.

Is it a deal?????

Note that I've never called for any of the above, their content, to be banned from here. I merely call for them to be exposed for what they are, and
anti-trust suits to go down to bust up their corporatocracy hold over our elections, our foreign policy, and so on. Just the same as I call for the
Two party System to be busted up and real competitors to be actually allowed to take them on competitively. Sure it isn't one 'company', or it isn't
one 'party', but in functionality each set operates as a MONOPOLY.

So unless you're ready to argue that the Bell telecom monopoly shouldn't have been broken up back in the day, and other corporate robber baron
monopolies from times past should NOT have been busted up, then you should be applauding my efforts with this series.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
My latest avatar. NOT my art, but in case anyone is wondering its one of the propaganda posters from the show Fringe, after the "Observers" come back
from the future and take over the world:

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