“I’m very acutely aware that once I cross that property line, I’m not free anymore,” Gaga said. “As soon as I go out into the world, I belong, in a way, to everyone else. It’s legal to follow me. It’s legal to stalk me at the beach. And I can’t call the police or ask them to leave. And I took a long, hard look at that property line, and I said, ‘Well, if I can’t be free out there, I can be free in here.'”

Fame has also come at the price of everyday human interactions. “I miss people,” Gaga said. “I miss people. I miss, you know, going anywhere and meeting a random person and saying, ‘Hi,’ and having a conversation about life. I love people.”

In the Sunday Morning interview, Gaga also talked about her concern about whether her Little Monsters fan base would be frightened off by the stylistic change on Joanne, a more introspective release than Gaga’s dance-pop bonanzas.

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“I think it is hard for them at times to, you know, change from album to album, ’cause I go through quite a transformation,” Gaga said of her fans. “And that’s just the way I am as an artist. You know, they have to kind of let go of the last era of music.”

As for the end of her engagement and five-year relationship with Kinney, Gaga said, “I think women love very hard. We love men. We just love with everything we have. And sometimes I don’t know that that love is met with the type of dignity that we wish it would be met with. You know, we’re not trying to make you less of a man. We just want you to love us as deeply and as wholesomely and as fully as we love you.”

Gaga also briefly touched on her upcoming performance at the Super Bowl 51 halftime show in February. “I always say, you gotta play a dive bar like you play an arena, and you play an arena like you play a dive bar,” the singer said, adding that anything is possible for the halftime gig.