When I bought a rack years ago, I loved being able to shift the toms even an inch or two to the left, so you can see THIS:

Then, I started playing a lot with a four piece kit, and really loved being able to pull the ride in close. When I bought my new-ish GMS kit, I tried going whole hog, and ended up loving it:
(Hmm... I need some newer pics since I changed heads...)

I love the interaction between the two rack toms and the snare. Makes for a lot of combinations that I wouldn't have thought of with a standard 5 piece setup. The only downside is that it forces my hi hat to be a little too far back. The solution is a compromise- slide the toms forward a bit, and my hats are still a little farther back than I'd prefer... but the advantages far outweigh the compromises.

For what it's worth, I don't double bass, and I like my hats as close as possible.

When I bought a rack years ago, I loved being able to shift the toms even an inch or two to the left, so you can see THIS:
[(Hmm... I need some newer pics since I changed heads...)

I love the interaction between the two rack toms and the snare. Makes for a lot of combinations that I wouldn't have thought of with a standard 5 piece setup. The only downside is that it forces my hi hat to be a little too far back. The solution is a compromise- slide the toms forward a bit, and my hats are still a little farther back than I'd prefer... but the advantages far outweigh the compromises.

For what it's worth, I don't double bass, and I like my hats as close as possible.

The photos seem to depict a slow migration over time of the toms to the left...

The problem lies with how to set up the two rack toms. I'd like to have the crash as it is shown here, but to also have the two splash cymbals either side. What would be the best way to this?

Ideally I wanted to get a double tom stand for the toms but would there be room for a stand for the crash?

I suppose I could mount the crash on the double tom stand, but what about the splash cymbals? If I mounted the toms, crash and both the splashes on the one stand it would be too much weight wouldn't it?

I'm not entirely opposed to getting a rack but i'd rather not if I can help it.

I can't really tell what you've all done with yours :s

Thanks

Adam

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The problem lies with how to set up the two rack toms. I'd like to have the crash as it is shown here, but to also have the two splash cymbals either side. What would be the best way to this?

Ideally I wanted to get a double tom stand for the toms but would there be room for a stand for the crash?

I suppose I could mount the crash on the double tom stand, but what about the splash cymbals? If I mounted the toms, crash and both the splashes on the one stand it would be too much weight wouldn't it?

I'm not entirely opposed to getting a rack but i'd rather not if I can help it.

I can't really tell what you've all done with yours :s

Thanks

Adam

I've got a heavy duty DW double tom stand that also has an integrated clamp for a cymbal arm. I see no reason why a double tom stand like that couldn't handle a small crash and two splashes.

A second option would be to use two cymbal stands. Mount one tom and one splash to one stand, then the other tom, second splash, and crash to the other. Floor space might be an issue, though...

I've never seen a cymbal stand FAIL from weight. What they do is FALL. :-)

EDIT: One more option that I think might work wonders for you- grab a couple of LP claws and mount your splashes to the rims of your toms. Perfect positioning (at least from your picture), inexpensive clamps, and lightweight, to boot.

The problem lies with how to set up the two rack toms. I'd like to have the crash as it is shown here, but to also have the two splash cymbals either side. What would be the best way to this?

Ideally I wanted to get a double tom stand for the toms but would there be room for a stand for the crash?

I suppose I could mount the crash on the double tom stand, but what about the splash cymbals? If I mounted the toms, crash and both the splashes on the one stand it would be too much weight wouldn't it?

I'm not entirely opposed to getting a rack but i'd rather not if I can help it.

I can't really tell what you've all done with yours :s

Thanks

Adam

Nah cymbal stands can take a lot of weight. What's important though is that you make sure that it's all balanced properley so it doesn't fall over, usually sticking one leg out toward the drum throne, underneath the 2 toms helps enormously.

I think what i'm going to do is to use a heavy duty cymbal stand and mount the toms from that with a double tom holder.

Could most probably mount the splashes from that as well like some have said. If all fails I could mount one tom, Crash and one splash on one stand. And then the other tom and the second splash on another stand.

I'm sure i'll figure it out!

Anymore pictures anyone?

Adam

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Why? Have you had Orioncymbals that cracked after playing them for just a short while? 'Cause I've just bought it 2 days ago and I really like the sound. A guy I know has cracked almost every cymbal brand he has played: Zildjian, Sabian and Meinl after only a few months and he plays a lot harder then I do, so I think I shouldn't be worried, should I?

My latest setup, I was using an 8" and 10" racks, but the 8" lacks in tone so I put on my 10" and 12". I also love how there isnt a massive gap between the 12" tom and my floor tom, its a really comfortable setup. I know, my kit and my cymbals need dusting.

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Why? Have you had Orioncymbals that cracked after playing them for just a short while? 'Cause I've just bought it 2 days ago and I really like the sound. A guy I know has cracked almost every cymbal brand he has played: Zildjian, Sabian and Meinl after only a few months and he plays a lot harder then I do, so I think I shouldn't be worried, should I?

Well yeah i guess i do play pretty hard but my orion hats are seriously cracked now, i actually took a huge chunk out of them just so my sticks wouldn't get chewed up in the crack and the thing bent by hand. Compare that to a zildjian ZBT which did crack very badly but i needed a set of shears to cut through it.

There is a thread for 4 piece kits. Having said that i do like your kit rather a lot. Also i'm very jeallous at the fact that your hi hat stand is an actual proper DW5000 unlike my pretend DW5000 which is actually a 7000 in disguise.

actually rocking a 2 up 2 down now and moved the 16 crash where the 18 is, and moved the 18 over the 2 down so i dont have to try and snap back so fast when i do a fill down low. but this is pretty much what i rock