bikendan wrote:are surge brakes common in Canada? the U.S. 1007's have electric brakes.

http://www.voyagerrv.ca/rv-detail.php?id=2290
Honestly I don't know that answer..I do know that if you look at the link above they 2012 10ft and 8ft both have electric brakes. I have also seen them sell the 1007 with electric as well. Is one really that much better then the other?

Ironically, you would have been far better off spending some money upgrading the minivan. The Liberty has less power, less torque, bigger tires, worse suspension, worse brakes and a lot less stability. You fell for the classic mis-truth, and these guys on the forum telling you the Jeep will be better than the minivan are doing you no favors. Just because it's an SUV, and designed to do well off-road, does NOT MAKE IT A TOW VEHICLE.

Caddywhompus wrote:Ironically, you would have been far better off spending some money upgrading the minivan. The Liberty has less power, less torque, bigger tires, worse suspension, worse brakes and a lot less stability. You fell for the classic mis-truth, and these guys on the forum telling you the Jeep will be better than the minivan are doing you no favors. Just because it's an SUV, and designed to do well off-road, does NOT MAKE IT A TOW VEHICLE.

The max the van could have towed would have been 3500 at the most...I spoke with one of the best transmission men in the City and was told that no matter what, towing with our van in the Okanagan was just asking for trouble.wouldn't matter what else we did to it ..Thus the search for the new TV..The Liberty is 5000 lb capacity..bit bigger engine and already has the tranny cooler etc.
Perhaps you are right maybe our decision may have been hasty and incorrect.and we were mislead by the people we were hoping would help us make a wise choice..however now we need the best advise to make the best of what we have. That's why I have come here to the people who have the experience towing a unit such as our pop up. We are in the process getting it ready to go and good advise is always an asset.

Caddywhompus wrote:Ironically, you would have been far better off spending some money upgrading the minivan. The Liberty has less power, less torque, bigger tires, worse suspension, worse brakes and a lot less stability. You fell for the classic mis-truth, and these guys on the forum telling you the Jeep will be better than the minivan are doing you no favors. Just because it's an SUV, and designed to do well off-road, does NOT MAKE IT A TOW VEHICLE.

and one final

I suppose "these guys" also include the engineers who designed & built the vehicles, the same ones that rated the van @ 3500lb and the Liberty @ 5000lb.

Just remember that if you ask 10 different people a question, you will get 10 different opinions. Best thing to do is go hook up the trailer and take it for a spin. See how it pulls and see how it stops. Then you will be able to form your own opinion, and not have to worry about what other people think.

Krusty wrote:Just remember that if you ask 10 different people a question, you will get 10 different opinions. Best thing to do is go hook up the trailer and take it for a spin. See how it pulls and see how it stops. Then you will be able to form your own opinion, and not have to worry about what other people think.

Your liberty will do just fine towing a 10 foot popup, and it will have no issues towing at the posted speed limit. I would find an empty parking lot to try braking at different speeds. The rear springs on your KJ are progressive so the ride can be a little rough
depending on the road and how loaded down you are. Low range is great for walking your camper into a tight campsite.
And I did not see one minivan when we drove the white rim trail.
Google LOSTjeeps for a little more info on your Jeep.