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Comment by Skullhawk13

Dulled shiv begs to differ to your false claims...If you compare it to Sharp dagger, clearly sharpening something is not an effective manner of increasing power.

Comment by Calaren

Got this just after the realms came back up. Jumped in the random daily. It put me in Heroic Forge of Souls. It dropped off the very FIRST mob we downed. So it drops in FoS as well. If I didnt already have Steel Bladebreaker for my offhand I would use it.

A few minutes later the realm went down again and I havent been able to log in since.

Edit to add heroic.

Edit 2: I'll up a screenshot when I can frickin log back in -.-

Edit 3: Upped screenshot, waiting for approval

Comment by Quickoats

I'm not sure if this has a high drop rate, or if it was just dumb luck, but this dropped for my group 4 times. 1st time in FoS, 2nd and 3rd time in the pit, and a 4th time in Halls of Reflection, so I can confirm that this drops in all 3 dungeons

Edit: This happened on Heroic mode

Comment by Bladeslicer24

The drop rate seems to be high, While healing on my pally, in HoR on the gauntlet, it dropped 2 times, and in PoS it dropped 3 times.....Needless to say i was pretty ticked about it since i wasnt on my rogue at the time.

Comment by Mackeyser

There was a bug which Blizz fixed so don't expect it to drop as often. I saw mad epics drop those first two days. I think there was a decimal place missing on the trash drop rates because it was like 2 or 3% or higher for epics off of trash.

I also think they buffed Heroic HoR. I sped through it the first two days with nary a difficulty. It seemed inordinately easy. Last night I ran it and MAN... 11k group dps and we kept wiping on that last pull before the end. So it may have been okay to try undergeared folks before.... not anymore.

Comment by flopfaint

If only sharpening stones worked at level 80..........

Also, I wonder if blizzard will add a Sharpened Ice Razor later in the game xD

Comment by vic6string

This looks like the best non-raid off-hand out there. Not many items give expertise, so that is nice, and with the new deadly poison setup, a fast off-hand is even bigger now than ever. This in the off hand and the Blood Weeper (the slow ICC ilvl232 dagger drop) in the main hand is as good a 1-2 punch as you can get without ever doing a raid. This one only drops at 1% off trash now that Blizz fixed the over-drop issue, so good luck finding it.

Comment by Mordach

Pulled a single group of trash in the Forge of Souls, maybe 3 or 4 guys in the group and had two drop from that single pull. So either it was a fluke or the drop rate is still extremely high. If your after one, I'd recommend running sooner rather than later because unless it's intended (unlikely) it will probably end up being patched soon to reduce the drop rate.

Comment by MrPersonage

As of a December 14th hotfix the Skeletal Slaves no longer have a chance to drop this weapon or any other trash epics in the ICC 5 mans including The Battered Hilt

Comment by Omgomgesiuol

So it drops from the Defias now?

Well, I think it's clear that the Deadmines were merely a setback for good ol' VanCleef and his men..

Comment by Phoenix599

Finally dropped from some wave 6-10 trash NPC in Halls of Reflection, took me five runs to get it. Amazingly, the Blood Weeper has dropped twice for me (FoS & Pit)...so the drop rate is really good on these...if you can just keep your Dungeon Finder group together long enough for the drops...especially in HoR.

Comment by pauu

.. just ran the halls of reflection, it dropped twice in a row (on two succesive packs ) oh well ,i guess afterall that random drop is random

cheers

Comment by doomwow

See this drop all the time... never for my rogue

Comment by EiLD

I get hacked. He leaves 3 cut gems worth 600g on the Auction house, but he just HAS to sell this 1% drop dagger for 20g...

Comment by rick951

Tired of hearing how common these are. :) So many runs, no knife for my rogue. Big time drop nerf. Why, oh why didn't I run the instances when they were dropping 3 at a time.

Comment by kradlum

Why only 74ap? This seems low when compared to lower level daggers.

Comment by Ubilaz

Had it dropped on my rogue yesterday on the first trash mob in PoS. Have this one OH and the Bloodweeper on MH. Nice.

Comment by Camerius

I really can't see the logic in this dagger being BoP when you look at the droprate. It would make much more sense if they had let it be BOE instead. Sure, it IS a great dagger and one that I'm hunting myself on my Rogue as in all of the Ul's and ToC's I have raided with my guild (and I kid you not on this one) ZERO of the daggers I need have ever dropped. Tough being Mutilate in ICC with just a Blood Weeper and Namlak's. And no, non of the Combat weapons have dropped for me either. I must seriously be the Rogue with the $%^&tiest luck in all of WoW. -.-

Comment by Dwarfemale

And since this is not Thottbot, we should probably try and refrain from going "RAR" on any poor folk who just happen to post to share their story. XD

p.s. This dagger looks sorta rad.

Comment by cjm336

Ive actually witnessed accounts of people being locked out of their own accounts because hackers would apply authenticators to their victims accounts shortly after hacking them.

Security at its finest.

Comment by Dwarfemale

Finally got one tonight, after 9 runs I believe without seeing it drop.

I'm more happy about this attractive weapon than I was about having enough frost emblems to get my chest. XD

Good luck to others seeking it, just be patient.

Comment by Morza

Dropped for me on my first heroic Pit lol

Comment by BirdmanPB

dropped for me first time in H-FoS....12 minutes later I got my blood weeper, replacing 143 dps weapons lol correct me if im wrong but this is the best pre-raid offhand for a pvp rogue to get .... rogue just getting ready to start arena that is

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Comment by klipseracer

Got this today. Whats the best way to use this for pve mut? I have this and the heartshiver 1.80

Fast/SlowDP/IP

?

Comment by Erethzium

Got this tonight in H PoS. Was a pleasant surprise, and well needed, seeing as I was still dual-weilding Balanced Heartseeker.

Very good pre-raid dagger for Mut.

Edit: Well, whaddaya know? Two days later, ANOTHER one drops in H FoS! Did they up the droprate of these or something? I've noticed that the Coffin Nail drops almost every time I run HoR, as well.

Comment by Wurmin

Possible to try to farm these as rogue?

Comment by Ryukasan

I've been doing ICC heroic dongeons trash runs for like 2 weeks now, hoping to find Quel'Delar. That damn dagger dropped I think 8 times now! And it has pretty much the same drop rate! Every single time the window pop to know if i want to bind this item to me and i see a purple item on a corpse, I'm always "OH MY GOD IS THIS THE......%^&* you."