This is kind of like grades, not something talked about in polite company. But I'd guess 15-25 from limited anecdotal evidence.

I agree on both parts....I have heard of an upper end nearer to 30 though (person was looking IP)

I love you (us?) Penn people but I don't think I'll ever understand this obsession that Quakers have with keeping things close to the vest. It's not like most people ask for grades/interviews/results out of jealousy. Rather, we just want to have lots of data points so that we can figure out what we can reasonably expect for ourselves. Likewise, letting me know that you are top 10% and will be summering at CSM isn't bragging, its providing your fellow students with a useful bit of information (and of course, giving your classmates an opportunity to congratulate you for a job well done). I haven't noticed this attitude among students at other schools.

In any event, may I ask a question about conversion rates. Out of 15-30 interviews, how many callbacks and offers (if any) might the average interviewer hope to get?

1. Any dress code for orientatiion?2. Should we bring laptop/backpack for orientation?3. Are "E and E" guides available on campus or should these be ordered online? (If you suggest any other guides for 1L classes, please advise!)4. How long is the Rocky Challenge? Will I be embarrassed by an 8:45 mile?

No, except for one or two events that are specifically listed as business casual.

2. Should we bring laptop/backpack for orientation?

No.

3. Are "E and E" guides available on campus or should these be ordered online? (If you suggest any other guides for 1L classes, please advise!)

A few weeks into school one of the student groups (EJF) puts on a fundraiser booksale, this is a great place to pick up guides and even some casebooks for $25 or less. Other than that, the campus bookstore carries stuff, but I recommend buying online or checking them out of the library to save $$.

4. How long is the Rocky Challenge? Will I be embarrassed by an 8:45 mile?

I think the Rocky Challenge is just running up a flight of stairs to the Art Museum. Either way, I don't think 8:45 is anything to be embarrassed about, but I'm no runner.

what type of school supplies do people use for classes? do you have a binder for each class, and if so, how large? (to put printed cases in?) I assume most people take notes on their computers. Just trying to see if I can get away with buying office/school supplies before I move to Philly, as my state has tax-free school supplies this month. Thanks!

AdmitMePls wrote:what type of school supplies do people use for classes? do you have a binder for each class, and if so, how large? (to put printed cases in?) I assume most people take notes on their computers. Just trying to see if I can get away with buying office/school supplies before I move to Philly, as my state has tax-free school supplies this month. Thanks!

You'll have to figure out what your own school supply preference is, but most of your notes will be on computer unless you like writing notes by hand (which some do). Get a lot of highlighters in about three colors (again according to your preference) and maybe tabs. For miscellaneous handouts, perhaps get a folder or a binder. No need to get a binder for every class or anything.

AdmitMePls wrote:what type of school supplies do people use for classes? do you have a binder for each class, and if so, how large? (to put printed cases in?) I assume most people take notes on their computers. Just trying to see if I can get away with buying office/school supplies before I move to Philly, as my state has tax-free school supplies this month. Thanks!

I might be unusual, but I never really use anything other than a pen to write in the margins of my casebooks with. I don't think you need all that stuff.

aulburch wrote:This is to any current Penn student: When I was visiting Penn and other schools this spring, it seemed like there was a lot of passing around of other / older students notes in 1L classes (especially on days when people thought they may be called on by professors). Maybe it's just me, but I cannot see myself using another person's notes and getting much from them.

Can anyone speak to this practice and how common/necessary it is?

It is somewhat common, but it is totally unnecessary. If you read the cases, Socratic is not scary or difficult.

If you're lucky, you might get called on just once in the entire semester, like someone I know. If you're not, well, one of my friends got called on the first day, and then several times in the semester. Eek. I don't have it handy right now, but try to get your hands on the Wax Verbatim outline.

lostmyname wrote:If you're lucky, you might get called on just once in the entire semester, like someone I know. If you're not, well, one of my friends got called on the first day, and then several times in the semester. Eek. I don't have it handy right now, but try to get your hands on the Wax Verbatim outline.

AdmitMePls wrote:how MUCH cheaper is the EJF book sale usually? should I wait and see the books there or order what I see as the best prices online?

thanks!

The EJF book sale sells casebooks for $25 and hornbooks for $10. So it's ridiculously cheap. However, the likelihood of you finding a current edition there (especially before the rest of the horde of law students) is very slim. Also, it's not for a couple of weeks, so you'd have to buy books from the bookstore planning to return them, or manage everything within the library (you can't check current edition casebooks out) for that amount of time.