Just picked up mine. If they ever release the SDK I might take a stab at writing an app. The web view of the site is a bit hard to use and I can't stand the slim view as I don't have enough control over the filtering.

Just a quick update. I've started programming a client. I've put a screenshot of my progress at: http://www.evernote.com/pub/jjlucsy/toodledo
Note that I don't have much more done than what you actually see. It doesn't store anything yet. Hopefully that'll be next.

The HTML-only site looks no better. The letters are much too small to see and the links much too small to tap.

Are there any view settings that could improve the appearance on the Pre browser (like desktop vs. mobile view, etc.)?

The key issue here is that you need to have the app sized to the iPhone/Pre screen (for the "slim" version).

There are plenty of iPhone/Pre web-based apps that look great, simply because the developer make sure that it was sized appropriately.

The Slim site works perfectly on the iPhone browser (I believe that was what it was originally designed for). Unfortunately Toodledo does not have every kind of phone out there to do testing for every mobile browser. Every mobile browser is different, and just having it sized right for one, or some, doesn't mean it will look right every other.

The Pre is still fairly new, but certainly seems to be getting pretty popular. Perhaps Toodledo will have an opportunity to look into this, but I'm just not sure if it is possible unless someone wants to send them a Pre.

Are there any view settings that could improve the appearance on the Pre browser (like desktop vs. mobile view, etc.)?

No. It's like the iPhone, in that there is no such thing.

The Slim site works perfectly on the iPhone browser (I believe that was what it was originally designed for). Unfortunately Toodledo does not have every kind of phone out there to do testing for every mobile browser. Every mobile browser is different, and just having it sized right for one, or some, doesn't mean it will look right every other.

The Pre is still fairly new, but certainly seems to be getting pretty popular. Perhaps Toodledo will have an opportunity to look into this, but I'm just not sure if it is possible unless someone wants to send them a Pre.

This is not about needing a Pre, although I agree that for final testing that'd be right.

Both the iPhone and the Pre use webkit browsers. I believe that whoever wrote the iPhone version is explicitly looking for an iPhone. All they need to do is add the Pre's browser ID and it should work. In other words, it's not that it needs to have a different version for the Pre. It's that you need to NOT look for just an iPhone.

I'd be happy to provide testing for the developer, once this small change is made.

Just saying that RememberTheMilk worked perfectly for the Pre, the day the Pre was released. And they did NO work to make that happen. They just coded the iPhone version in such a way that it would work on webkit browsers, other than just the iPhone. Smart developers they have, I guess.

I don't know enough to know whether that is true or not, but I can tell you that all WebKit browsers are not as similar as you would think. The Iris browser for WM works on Slim. The Mobile Safari browser works on iPhone. However with Symbian, it gets tricky. The default S60 browser does not work on Slim for everybody, but the S60 compatible Ozone browser does. They are both WebKit, and both running on the same platform, yet one works and the other does not.

If it is just a matter of identifying the type of browser when users go to the Slim site, perhaps you are right that it could be done (I know for instance, that the Ozone browser I mentioned above identifies itself as running on a Mac, and I think Iris does a sort of similar thing). In the meantime, you could look into whether the user agent string for the Pre browser is user-editable. I know you can do that on Windows Mobile. My WM phone identifies itself as running Firefox when I am actually using a regular WM browser.

In the meantime, you could look into whether the user agent string for the Pre browser is user-editable. I know you can do that on Windows Mobile. My WM phone identifies itself as running Firefox when I am actually using a regular WM browser.

Afraid not.

Like I said, the RTM folks managed to write something that works well, without even having ever seen a Pre. Ditto for several other sites that provide web-based iPhone apps and games.