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He can see the sign that something is about to die in the form of a black butterfly landing on it. Naturally, it's a really dark thing for a child to know, so he regularly fought with depression. Before he met Toru, he met this girl who cheered him up and made him appreciate life more. However, he then saw a black butterfly land on her. He reverted to his depression and was going insane before Toru intervened because he couldn't figure out why a perfectly healthy and cheerful girl like her was going to die. Toru figured everything out from pure observation.

There's one little thing in the dialogue between them that I couldn't figure out the reason for, so I'm waiting for it.

EDIT: Pfft, the omake's actually pretty good. Please note that the so-called "previews" in the last two pages are jokes (there's a note on the last page that says that). The "preview" had things like "The Curry Faction VS The Gyudon Faction!!", Yuki's weight troubles, and... Koyuki suddenly snapping and being totally cruel to Toru (final panel: "Hey, you NEET. You're standing out too much.").

... That's a pretty heavy spoiler. Now I'm not certain if I can wait for the translations...

The Omakes I think were pretty hilarious. I didn't know that the previews were jokes, I seriously thought that there was going to be a chapter about the little ducky the guy was holding Still, that would be a fun chapter, don't you think?

... That's a pretty heavy spoiler. Now I'm not certain if I can wait for the translations...

The Omakes I think were pretty hilarious. I didn't know that the previews were jokes, I seriously thought that there was going to be a chapter about the little ducky the guy was holding Still, that would be a fun chapter, don't you think?

No, No, it's not that I'm disappointed at being spoiled. I'm quite happy actually. It's my choice to spoil myself either way. I'm glad you spoiled me, I just now can't wait to see more translated chapters, which is a good thing... right?

Just started reading the translated chapters and am enjoying it for the most part. The only complaints I have are some plot issues.

Like everyone else, the situation with Yuki didn't ring with me. It wasn't bad, but it felt underdeveloped. Also the iris powers are going to cause some plot holes/contradictions. They're a bit overpowered and inconsistent so far. I mean Yuki should have been able to tell if the landlady in chapter 4 was lying about the bathroom stall, no?

Very, very tempted to read that spoiler but I'll try to keep myself in check .

Just started reading the translated chapters and am enjoying it for the most part. The only complaints I have are some plot issues.

Like everyone else, the situation with Yuki didn't ring with me. It wasn't bad, but it felt underdeveloped. Also the iris powers are going to cause some plot holes/contradictions. They're a bit overpowered and inconsistent so far. I mean Yuki should have been able to tell if the landlady in chapter 4 was lying about the bathroom stall, no?

Very, very tempted to read that spoiler but I'll try to keep myself in check .

But the landlady wasn't lieing, she was telling them rumors. Besides, Yuki is so scared of ghosts, I don't think it ever occurred to her to check.

But the landlady wasn't lieing, she was telling them rumors. Besides, Yuki is so scared of ghosts, I don't think it ever occurred to her to check.

From what I got of Toru's deduction the landlady made up the story to protect the squirrels. I suppose I could buy Yuki being too freaked to check, but she seems pretty anal retentive about checking for tails.

Regardless, I'm just being nitpicky. In this kind of story I fully expect inconsistencies in power/ability usage and try not to let it bother me.

On an unrelated note, I would expect Hijiri's iris to involve death somehow. Somehow butterflies always connect to death. At least that's how it seems to work out. That's pretty common right .

Somehow butterflies always connect to death. At least that's how it seems to work out. That's pretty common right .

That's right, because in Japan, the butterfly is a symbol of the cycle of life. Thus it's meaning is both life and death, but it is mostly used to symbolize death. In other cultures however, butterflies represent a variety of things including souls, memories, uncaring, carefree personalities... It really does vary.

Just started reading the translated chapters and am enjoying it for the most part. The only complaints I have are some plot issues.

Like everyone else, the situation with Yuki didn't ring with me. It wasn't bad, but it felt underdeveloped. Also the iris powers are going to cause some plot holes/contradictions. They're a bit overpowered and inconsistent so far. I mean Yuki should have been able to tell if the landlady in chapter 4 was lying about the bathroom stall, no?

Very, very tempted to read that spoiler but I'll try to keep myself in check .

The landlady never explicitly stated it was a ghost. She talked about how one of the stalls couldn't be opened and how weeping sounds could be heard from the inside at night. All of that is true.

plus i could be wrong but wasn't the old landlady wearing a robe/kimono/dress thing that would be long enough to hide a tail, even an iris related one? Whereas everyone else seems to be in a skirt or trousers so far?

And this is what I really like about series that take a persons preconceived notions and turns it around, enhancing the overall genre as a whole. Overall these were some pretty deep chapters, though I'm left rather unsatisfied by the end of Hijiri's story, so I hope he manages to find his own happiness at some point, especially as the story moves forward, although I'm rather glad he dumped his former brunette friend given the stunt she tried to pull.

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"That is why we must embrace carnage. In order to not waste the blood that has already been shed, we have no choice but to shed even more."- Lelouch Vi Britannia

Awesome, two chapters of Iris Zero! Many thanks for Ala Atra and Simple scans for this Christmas present. So, this is mostly a flashback detailing Hijiri's past...

Spoiler for Chapter 5-6:

- Heh, it's really obvious by now that Koyuki likes Toru.
- More and more, the Iris can reallyh be a curse as opposed to blessing. I mean, it's nice when you can kinda 'switch it on and off' like Koyuki's but seeing how close someone is to death can really be depressing, him being suicidal as a result is understandable.

- Like KrimzonStriker, I too am unsatisfied by the ending. That is, I get that the message is that Hijiri is now no longer depressed and suicidal, that he can be happy even without Tachibana, but I don't see why he really needs to be apart from her. It's not like jealous yandere Katagiri (this is the perfect example of what a yandere is, right?) can and will bother them anymore, and as proven here the Iris isn't set in stone and can be changed (which may be important for later), so even if he sees it again, he may be able to fight it...

- Two things I'm still a bit confused by the ending. First, when Hijiri asks Koyuki whether he's qualified or not. So, maybe I'm missing it, but can Koyuki sees it or not? And why did she cry? Secondly, the part at the very end, with "please don't forget that, the truth isn't always soo kind", is it purposefully left ambiguous for future events? I think there may be some stuff between the lines that fly over me...

- Really, Toru is awesome again in this chapter, his observation ability is Sherlock Holmes and his deducing skills isn't half bad as well. This is my favorite type of protagonist, more than wimpy/kind harem lead or hot-blooded action hero, one that has keen observation skill and has a very sharp mind, may be kind of a jerk but ultimately still a good person deep down...which is the main reason I love detective genre (which Iris Zero is not, but it's kinda similar sometimes).

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The landlady never explicitly stated it was a ghost. She talked about how one of the stalls couldn't be opened and how weeping sounds could be heard from the inside at night. All of that is true.

Yep, in the character explanation in the the 2nd volume (chapter 5) it's explicitly stated that her Iris only applies when it's a direct lie, but not always when things are wrong. And yeah, with the way the landlady says it, technically she's not saying a lie...

Started reading this casually but the recent two chapters have made this one of my favorites. I really love how the main character is so preceptive of his surroundings, makes him that more awesome. Its also makes me wish alot more characters were like Toru, they are far and few inbetween.

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although I'm rather glad he dumped his former brunette friend given the stunt she tried to pull.

I don't know why but I get the feeling that she might appear again later in the series.

I don't know why but I get the feeling that she might appear again later in the series.

I somehow get that feeling as well but still I actually really liked how he ended that "friendship" he simply didn't want anything to do with her anymore and just didn't show up.
I don't need to know that he would meet up with her again and say some sorta soap oprea speech about whatever.

But man Toru's sixth sense is really starting to sharpen, I loved how he "went for a walk"

thank god we got the 2 chapters wrapping up this little story, I would have gone nuts waiting for the 2nd part!

- Two things I'm still a bit confused by the ending. First, when Hijiri asks Koyuki whether he's qualified or not. So, maybe I'm missing it, but can Koyuki sees it or not? And why did she cry? Secondly, the part at the very end, with "please don't forget that, the truth isn't always soo kind", is it purposefully left ambiguous for future events? I think there may be some stuff between the lines that fly over me...

Spoiler for My personal opinion on your question:

I don't believe it really matters whether she could or couldn't, because the answer itself is a forgone conclusion given that Hijiri ultimately is not together with the girl he liked. Whether through an Iris, or simply concluding based on the details from the story we know he wasn't qualified in the end no matter how much he might have wanted too, hence the likely reason Koyuki cried. Oh I imagine very much that those words will play a part in the future, because they are very much the truth, perhaps serving as a warning about delving too deep in trying to find out someones past. At the same time you could say its a larger representation of Irises as a whole, and how they reveal things to their users, as was the case with Hijiri, in some sense pointing out just how much Koyuki and the others have taken their Irises for granted.

I think the underlying message overall that is being laid out here is just how much more insightful Toru is compared to others who have Irises, upsetting their preconceived notions of superiority as to how blind their egos have made them through their use social stigma and confidence as to how 'special' they are.

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"That is why we must embrace carnage. In order to not waste the blood that has already been shed, we have no choice but to shed even more."- Lelouch Vi Britannia

When I read the RAWs I thought Toru was saying something else in the end when he was explaining things to Hijiri. I thought he was going to say "My favorite motto is 'Minimal Exposure', so someone like me would never be noticed by her", because, you know, I thought he might like Tachibana but thinks it's a lost cause to begin with.

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Spoiler for Chapter 5-6:

Secondly, the part at the very end, with "please don't forget that, the truth isn't always so kind", is it purposefully left ambiguous for future events? I think there may be some stuff between the lines that fly over me...

Spoiler for Speculation:

I think it means that despite Toru's quick manner of forgiveness, there might be people for whom trauma and grudges don't heal over time, even due to chance meetings like what happened to Hijiri. I don't know if it's a subtle way for him to tell her that there's still something within Toru that we don't know yet, or, say, Tokita, who might possibly have a grudge on Toru now if we recall how Toru got Kuga before Tokita could during the class trip.

Awesome, two chapters of Iris Zero! Many thanks for Ala Atra and Simple scans for this Christmas present. So, this is mostly a flashback detailing Hijiri's past...

Spoiler for Chapter 5-6:

- Heh, it's really obvious by now that Koyuki likes Toru.
- More and more, the Iris can reallyh be a curse as opposed to blessing. I mean, it's nice when you can kinda 'switch it on and off' like Koyuki's but seeing how close someone is to death can really be depressing, him being suicidal as a result is understandable.

- Like KrimzonStriker, I too am unsatisfied by the ending. That is, I get that the message is that Hijiri is now no longer depressed and suicidal, that he can be happy even without Tachibana, but I don't see why he really needs to be apart from her. It's not like jealous yandere Katagiri (this is the perfect example of what a yandere is, right?) can and will bother them anymore, and as proven here the Iris isn't set in stone and can be changed (which may be important for later), so even if he sees it again, he may be able to fight it...

- Two things I'm still a bit confused by the ending. First, when Hijiri asks Koyuki whether he's qualified or not. So, maybe I'm missing it, but can Koyuki sees it or not? And why did she cry? Secondly, the part at the very end, with "please don't forget that, the truth isn't always soo kind", is it purposefully left ambiguous for future events? I think there may be some stuff between the lines that fly over me...

- Really, Toru is awesome again in this chapter, his observation ability is Sherlock Holmes and his deducing skills isn't half bad as well. This is my favorite type of protagonist, more than wimpy/kind harem lead or hot-blooded action hero, one that has keen observation skill and has a very sharp mind, may be kind of a jerk but ultimately still a good person deep down...which is the main reason I love detective genre (which Iris Zero is not, but it's kinda similar sometimes).

Yep, in the character explanation in the the 2nd volume (chapter 5) it's explicitly stated that her Iris only applies when it's a direct lie, but not always when things are wrong. And yeah, with the way the landlady says it, technically she's not saying a lie...

Spoiler for ch5-6:

Hijiri is just keeping his word. In exchange for saving Tachibana, he stays away from her. Like Toru said, there are countless ways she can die, and Hijiri can still indirectly lead her into danger without knowing. The safest bet is for him to stay away from her.

As for the ending, Koyuki was crying because of the story. She was listening attentively since the very beginning. However, because Koyuki never answered, it's still a bit ambiguous. Maybe Hijiri wasn't qualified to save her life. Finally, Hijiri's warning was just foreshadowing future events.

After all, all the stories up to now were about Koyuki's friends (note that I didn't say Toru's friends, because it's still questionable whether he would put his friends over his "minimal exposure" policy). Obviously at least some other people wouldn't be so accepting.

I wanna see some relationship-building between the new gang soon, a few moments where Toru won't be too afraid to hang out and chat like if it's outside of school since there's less likely to be people he knows there. Majority of adults also still don't have irises so they hopefully wouldn't care.