No time to panic…

For those Dodger fans looking for an open window to jump, an 11-0 loss like Sunday night in Philadelphia may be hard to watch. But trailing 2-1 in a best-of-seven NLCS format, it’s hardly the end of the world. Older fans should recognize the same score from Game 1 of the 1959 World Series. After the 11-0 defeat against the White Sox in Chicago, pitcher Don Drysdale boarded the bus and shouted, “Is that all they’ve got?”, which drew laughter from his teammates and the Dodgers eventually won the Series in six games.

The 1960 New York Yankees enjoyed blowout World Series victories by scores of 16-3, 10-0 and 12-0. But the Pittsburgh Pirates won four games by scores of 6-4, 3-2, 5-2 and 10-9. The 1984 Chicago Cubs opened the NLCS with a 13-0 victory at Wrigley Field. But the San Diego Padres eventually won the series in the best-of-five format.

Obviously the Dodgers have a major challenge ahead, but somehow those blowouts in a non-elimination game usually take a back seat in the history books to the late-inning heartbreaks.

The Dodgers should be on more even footing on Monday night when the Dodgers
go with veteran left-hander Randy Wolf against Phillies right-hander Joe Blanton. Wolf won 11 games with a 3.23 ERA this season. Blanton was 12-8 with a 4.05 ERA.

“You don’t want to get ahead of yourself,” Howard said. “Right now you worry about Game 4 and then hopefully take care of business in Game 5. Then you worry about the next opponent you face.”

Teams have been pounded in LCS games before, and many of them have come back to either make it a series, or even win the series. The Red Sox did it three times, in 2004, 2007 and 2008.

In Game 3 of the 2004 ALCS, the Yankees beat the Red Sox 19-8 to take a commanding, never-before-blown 3-0 lead in the series. But Boston rallied in unprecedented fashion against New York to win the next four — the first two at Fenway Park and the last two at Yankee Stadium — and make history on their way to their first world championship since 1918.

The Red Sox did it again in the 2007 ALCS — as did the Indians in the same series. After Boston won 10-3 in Game 1, Cleveland came back to take Game 2 by the score of 13-6. The Indians won the next two games, as well, taking a 3-1 series lead.

When all you’re told is that we offered MORE than the Phillies but didn’t get him, it raises questions. How many can we think of?

It doesn’t make sense. How is that possible? (It’s not)
Are we overrating our kids? (Yes)
Is there really a Colletti Premium? (Possibly)
Are we being lied to? (Probably)
Did Lee ask the Indians to keep him on the East Coast? (Doubtful)
Did Lee ask the Indians to NOT trade him to the Dodgers? (Doubtful)

Personally, I think it’s the money owed to Lee. It’s the one really consistent factor present in just about every late-season trade we make:

Last year
Ramirez – the Red Sox paying remainder of Ramirez’ 2008 salary (about $7M) and agreeing to eliminate 2009-10 club options in exchange for Ramirez not exercising right to block trade as 10-and-5 player
Blake – Indians paying all of Blake’s 2008 salary

This year
Thome – Chicago paid about $1.4M of Thome’s remaining 2009 salary of about $2.415M (we pay him $1mil)
Padilla – signed to a minor-league contract after being waved by Texas (major league minimum?)
Garland – Arizona to pay remaining 2009 salary and 2010 buyout (free)
Sherrill – no notes on the deal, so we can assume we’re paying the prorated remainder of his 2009 contract ($2.75M) (1/3 of $2.75 – less than $1mil)
Belliard – Same thing as Sherrill, prorate the last of his $1.9M ($633K)

So those 5 pickups cost a total of $3 million for the balance of ’09, by my primitive math.

Now, what is Lee costing the Phils? The prorated 2009 contract of $5.75 million (approx $1.9 mil). There is a club option for ’10 at $8 million with a $1 mil buyout, which means the Phils owe him $2.9 million minimum – roughly equal the cost of all of our pickups combined. There are some good bonuses if he wins the Cy Young. His ’09 salary jumps from $5.75 mil to $9M, or to $8.75M with 2nd or 3rd place in the voting. Jumping leagues will virtually lock him out of the Cy Young trophy, but 2nd or 3rd is still a possiblity. Sabathia finished 5th – and within a single vote of 4th place – in the NL last year after jumping leagues. That would jump his check from the Phils another million.
These figures are at http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/los-angeles-dodgers.html

To me, that’s why we didn’t get Lee. Not because we offered a better package than the Phils. It was a couple more million kept off the payroll that shrunk from $118,588,536 in 2008 to $100,414,592 in ’09. And that’s what I’ll continue to believe until proven wrong.

Nothing is impossible, especially if it happened so many times before.
If we could beat the Cardinals, there’s no reason why we can’t beat the Phillies.
My experience asked me, “How the heck can we beat the Cardinal?”….Then I saw it happen..WOW.
Now my experience is asking me the same question about the Phillies……???????
GO DODGERS!!!!!!

We (ITD) are obviously not fair weather fans. We stick with them thru everything, good and bad, and we never truly give up on them. Yea, there are times we might mention walking away or make fun of all the things that go wrong, but we wouldn’t be here if we did ever feel it was time to give up on them. I don’t know where this journey of theirs will end this season, but the ride gets more and more fun, exciting and intense as the month of October continues on. As I told my Giants fan friend today……………at least we are still on the ride, and he (Ahem!!!) VERY NICELY agreed with me.
LET’S GO DODGERS, LET’S GO!!!!!

Dodgereric – I still laugh about that “Ahem” I got from you a while back. I don’t even know what it was for, but the visual I have of you doing that is pretty good.

An interesting summary of the salary aspects as you have presented it, eric. I’m not the least bit surprised. In fact, I can’t wait until the lawyers start spewing all of the money details about this ill-fated ownership. They should do a realty show about the upcoming fiasco – it should be a real hit.

Like I’ve said before – Put the screws to him, Jamie. Make him sell everything. Remember that Cash is King. Don’t take half ownership in anything. It’ll make you feel so much better to break his balls.

In the meantime, let’s go get them, Dodgers! Let’s make the franchise even more valuable before Frank has to sell it all.

Totally agree, Scott. Blanton barely qualifies as a mediocre pitcher and the Dodgers are making him look like a Cy Young winner. They have hit .295 against him, so why are they looking so freaking lame against him so far? Wolf is a much better pitcher than he is. And where’s the emotion? They look like night of the walking dead out there so far and they did last night too. Time to step it up a few notches. C’mon guys!

& if someone wants to come here & bang on Dodger fans, this is a stupid place to do it.
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The fans here are awesome as are most of our fans.
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Obviously if we are on here daily, often till late at night all year long then we are true fans & love our team!
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So peace out …

Well, this is more like it. After a rough start, Wolfie’s settled in and our bats finally woke up. With our bullpen, I like our odds in a close game. We’ve put the TBS Philly coronation on hold and silenced the Philly crowd…Reaalllllllllll small strike zone tonight………WAY TO GO, BLAKE!!!!! GO GET EM, BLUE!!!!

Good evening all.
I just got in from work in time to see Matt hit one out. Once again, the home plate ump is inconsistent with his calls. Russ had a legit argument on his strikeout.
BTW, I saw the replay of Howard’s dinger in the 1st. That was a warning track fly ball at best in Dodger stadium.
GO DODGERS!!!

I know Collie, but as much as I love Dre, base stealing is not his forte, lol. His speed isn’t too bad once he gets moving and he has good speed getting to balls in the outfield, but he needs to work on the base stealing.

WE LOVE OUR DODGERS THE WHOLE YEAR THRU!!!!
This hurt, but it is still the best toy store around. They gave it everything they got. It was just one damaging pitch too many. It’s an uphill battle now, but it can be done.

What can you say. Brox was what we saw all year.
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Over throws and nibbles. So walks & hits a batter then is in love with his fastball and starts grooving them.
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Hats off to them they came back & won. They took advantage of our mistakes.
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That being said, this series still isn’t over.

Dodgers are a good gutsy team. They just happen to be playing a better, gutsier team. JRoll has sucked, but there is something there inside when it is on the line. And he’s not the only one. Too many weapons.
They can’t get to Lidge, and Broxton coughs it Up? C’mon dudes, props!!!

It is not over yet but the Dodgers just don’t look like they are in the same league with the boys in red.
In the post game interview Rollins said “I got a good pitch…”
No ****! Why couldn’t you throw a down and in slider or something on the edge of the plate, Broxton? Geez, I could have put some wood on that pitch.

Well that’s just about the most painful Dodger loss in many, many, many moons…and I’ve been watching these things for 40 years. Was at the stadium a year ago when Dodgers lost game 4 on Stairs’ HR, was in the stadium for Jack Clark’s bomb, but this one feel so much worse, probably because it’s right now. Nobody’s fault. Yeah, Broxton might wear the goat horns, but it’s a team loss. Sure, sure, the Dodgers are still alive. But this one will hurt ALL winter long.

Jhall – Are you watching this? LMAO!!!!!!!! Weren’t you the one that mentioned this? LMAO!!!!! We called it didn’t we? LMAO!!!!!!!!!! This brings back memories of our infamous night we became the Cleaver family.

Bluecrewgirl – All we have is faith at this point, and I am not giving up on them. We have seen them do some incredible things this season, and we have learned anything is possible and nothing is impossible when it comes to this Dodgers team.

oldbrooklynfan ~ Just got back from the diner. I’m devastated. To use a quote from a happier Dodger moment, ” I don’t believe what I just saw” I can’t believe it. Two years in a row with a chance to tie the series 2-2, Broxton blows it. I guess he’s not a big time closer. What a shame they worked so hard to come back in that game. Sherrill’s strike out of Howard in the eight inning was so great. I have no confidence in them for Wednesday game. They’re done. I’m ready for the off season.

Jhall – I think these two deserve each other, don’t you? They are perfect for each other because they speak the same language. Just think……………if they get together and bug the crap out of each other, this could get very entertaining to watch.

It is a hard,hard loss and it’s a tough road ahead, but not impossible. Remember what the Red Sox did against the Yankees in the ALCS the year they won their first World Series. If they can win on Wed., winning two in LA is not at all impossible. Keep the faith!

I think we all need to realize and admit that Broxton is not a closer. He never was, and he never will be. He does not have the mental makeup to be a big time pitcher, and that just can’t be taught. As long as he’s our closer, we are not going to win the World Series. I think Papelbon is available in the offseason. Dodgers need to make an offer.

Shad – coming close to blowing a save and blowing a save are two totally different things. It’s like saying Brox came close to getting the save. He either got the save or didn’t,and in this case, he obviously didn’t – LOL!!!!

GIVE UP NOW!!!!!!!! NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
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IT IS WIN OR GO HOME TIME !!!!!! THIS IS WHERE WINNING REALLY BECOMES A WHOLE LOT OF FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You all said it was just one game…That still applies, besides what kind of ball club would that make us if we gave up now!!!!!!!!!
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The road ahead isn’t an easy one, that’s for sure, but it isn’t impossible. A win tomorrow will get it back in front of the fans in blue and that is very attainable…. and then we go from there.
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GO DODGERS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BRING THE RING TO L..A. IN 2009!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Good Night everyone and God Bless have a great day tomorrow.
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We need to keep fighting….Nothing else we can do except keep fighting……We need to punch harder and smarter than we have though…..The Phillies are going to come out swinging that is a given.

Nelly, I don’t know why, but I really feel like they are going to come back and win it. If they win on Wed., winning two in a row at home is entirely possible. Andre came so close to a home run on his second at bat and he tagged it on the next one too. So close, yet so far.

bluecrewgirl – I am NOT giving up on this team either. The season is over when the last out of our season is made, and until that happens, I will always have faith that anything is possible and nothing is impossible with this fabulous Dodger team.

If Broxton just grooved one for Stairs to hit a home run, he probably would have come back and got the game in control after that. But as wild as Broxton was tonight, it was the lack of the hitters to score more runs that lost the game.
It is clear that the Phillies and probably the Angels and Yankees are better than the Dodgers. Our team could still win it all but it would require lots of lucky breaks. We have a good team but not a great one. We Dodger fans tend to overrate our players and ignore the fact that there are other good organizations with really good players too.
I have had fun this year and I hope the team can win the next three games. It would be nice to make it to the Fall Classic but I am not going to be holding my breath.

i like all the positive talk..but lets be realistic here..broxton is a big soft teddy bear. This guy has no gutts what so ever. this is not the first time he does this..we played our assssss off to have this happend..you guys remember last year..same team game four..broxton on the mound..i swear this guy better not be with us next year……thank you broxton..long live the memories of gagne and saito…god im so upset…can’t beve what i just saw

There is no doubt that Brox blew it big time once again, and yes, I do think that issue needs to be addressed. So,let’s hope it is. However, with the upcoming off season, it’s going to be all about the split between Frank and Jamie, and then talk about drama.

Shad – bad calls or not, he didn’t blow the save, nor does any record reflect that. Records don’t deal in almosts. It either happened or it didn’t.

I am glad you are calmed down Shad. It’s really not worth it. Obviously he is not going to change and be nice about the whole thing so you need to take the higher road and try your very best not to get upset about it. It’s really hard, we know, but you have to try. If it helps, type it out so you get it out of your system, but just don’t post it.

If Padilla can get us a win in Game 5, I know Clayton will shut them down in Game 6 when I’m in Dodger Stadium. Then it’s Wolf v. Lee for a trip to the Fall Classic, and I know Lee isn’t going to throw another shutout.
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This thing is far from over.

Well…….. crap. Losses like this one are tough. It’s easy to overreact at these. What the hell happened?
We outhit them 8 to 5.
We each hit one out.
We each got 4 walks.
We stole 3 bases to their none.
They had an error and we didn’t.
We were 3 for 8 w/RISP, they were 2 of 7.
We saw 169 pitches to their 146.
We both got 4 – 2 out RBIs.

The difference? The ump behind the plate? Yeah, he sucked big time. Either that ‘strike zone’ chart on TV is completely unreliable or the umpire is. But the difference? No. Winners celebrate and losers blame the umps, so let’s not go there.

The difference was Broxton walking that ‘holy terror’ Stairs (you know, the 41-year-old one-trick-pony nobody with the .194 batting average) on 4 pitches and then compounding that by hitting Ruiz with the next pitch. That gives your defense no chance at all and it has to stop. I still like Broxton, because if he ever starts to trust his stuff and stop giving the other hitters too much credit he’s going to be a fine closer for a long time to come. What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger, but you have to choose it to be so.

I know I’ll fight to the end. It’s not over. All it takes is one in Philly and we can win it at home. But obviously we need to stand up now. Kershaw and Padilla can get us to Game 7, but it sure would be nice if we could hit us a home run or at least a double with 2 or 3 on for a change. It seems like a while since I’ve seen one of those. That’s a fine club over there, but they’re beatable.

Hey lny4loney!!!! It’s great to see you on ITD once again. I am thinking this series will come back to LA as well. And now that you are going to be there with all of your chants and the James Loney Song, it’s a definite.

Dodgereric – The ump was equally bad for both teams IMO. When the announcers said both pitchers had to pitch into a tea cup to get a strike, I figured the ump had his own personal strike zone, which is a whole other topic for a later time, isn’t it? As for Brox, I don’t know what to think. These are the times you wish you knew what they were thinking.

So, your household is all calm after the football game. I had checked once during the Dodger game, and the Chargers were winning,and then obviously, the Broncos found a way to win. Good for Matt, not so good for you and Chris:)

There was a time when being able to ump in the postseason was a reward for excellence during the year. It might still be technically so, but not in reality. There have been way too many horrible calls this year. And did you see that ump tonight take a good long look at Martin after he took that called 3rd strike? He was itching to run him, and that’s something I can’t stand. No one in history has ever bought a ticket to watch an umpire work.

That being said, I’m not blaming anyone but the Dodgers for this loss. It’s on the players. All of them. We want to hang it on Broxton, but it’s still a team game and there’s a lot that goes on before the ninth. As was noted earlier, just about every closer in the game has blown a save in the playoffs this year. Is every team going to dump their guy?

They’ve got to get it done. If they don’t, I’ll tip my cap to the Phils. Just not yet. We have to stop giving them base runners and we have to get THE BIG HIT.

Regarding our house tonight, luckily Matt is a gracious winner. Mostly because he cares more about his mom’s feelings than the Broncos. The two of them had to calm me down early on. Watching both games at once got me way too critical for them to stomach.

PHILADELPHIA — The Dodgers blazed the trail with Japanese pitchers, from Hideo Nomo to Kaz Ishii to Hiroki Kuroda, and now they are after another.

Japanese media outlets report that Dodgers assistant general manager Logan White traveled to Japan this week to meet with 18-year-old left-handed pitcher Yusei Kikuchi, who is considering become the first high school player from Japan to sign with a Major League franchise and bypass the Japan League draft.

Nomo, Ishii and Kuroda came to the Major Leagues having already played in the Japan League.

Eight Major League clubs are believed to be interested in Kikuchi, whose fastball has been clocked at 95 mph by American scouts. Among the clubs reportedly in on Kikuchi are the Yankees, Red Sox and Mariners.

No matter what happens, you gotta learn how to win or lose gracefully. Most of us can do it, some (we have seen) can not. Shad, you hang in there. I’m a work-in-progress just like you and I’m getting better at it. Just ignore him. He’s not worth the energy.

I?ve survived the Rams losing the Super Bowl in 1980.
I?ve survived the Kings losing the Cup in ?92.
I?ve survived the Lakers losing in the Finals in ?68, ?69, ?70, ?73, ?83, ?84, ?89, ?91, ?04 and ?08.
I?ve survived the Dodgers losing the Series in ?66, ?74, ?77, and ?78.

But only because I?ve stuck with my teams, I?ve celebrated with the Lakers in ?72, ?80, ?82, ?85, ?87, ?88, ?00, ?01, ?02 and ?09.
And I?ve won along with my Dodgers in ?59, ?63, ?66, ?81 and ?88. And I intend to do so again, whether it?s sooner or later, because I NEVER SAY DIE!

May God Bless each and every one of us, and we’ll take another try at it come Wednesday.

Shad – I know you didn’t mean to, but do ITD a favor. Next time he makes a post just try your hardest not to react to what he says. It’s hard. I know. It’s hard for me too. It’s hard for all of us, but you have to try. As long as there is somebody here he can push buttons and make upset, the more he will be around pushing those buttons.

Well, I haven’t been around that long, but yes, we are sticking to our teams no matter what. That is our job as a true fans……………………..sticking with your teams thru the good times, the hard times and the bad times, and it seems like this season, we have been through it all with the Dodgers………………the good, the hard and the bad.

I agree with posters from the previous thread who have commented that you’ve gotta stick around for the hard times to fully appreciate the good times.
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It’s been a long 21 years since Kirk Gibson hit that magical homerun. Until very recently (Game 1 of the NLDS) I could say that I had been in attendance for every post-season home victory in those 21 years — all three of them.
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In that time I’ve seen the devastating consequences of Pedro-for-Delino, seen the O’Malleys dreams of a Dodgers football team (and much more importantly continued O’Malley ownership of the baseball Dodgers) dashed by L.A. City Councilman Mark Ridley-Thomas and fellow Coliseum-lovers; saw the Piazza-Karros-Mondesi years go by without a single playoff victory; saw that era cut off before it could bear fruit by the devastating and so-much-more-obviously-stupid-at-the-time-it-was-done-than-Pedro-for-Delino trading of Mike Piazza; the pathetic attempts to replace the irreplaceable Piazza with the likes of Todd Hundley; the pretty good but ultimately soulless teams of the early ’90s; the deeply soul-wrenching strike of 1994; the cheapening of baseball in general by steroids and other misdeeds under the “guidance” of a man whose name makes me sick — Bud Selig; and so much more. In some ways it’s been a very long 21 years.
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But I’ve also enjoyed our run of Rookies of the Year: Karros, Piazza, Mondesi, Nomo, Hollandsworth; Hideo Nomo, the first important Asian ballplayer; watching Ramon Martinez throw 18 strikeouts through 8 innings; the United Nations rotation of 1998 — Nomo, Park, Candiotti (Canada), Ramon Martinez, pick-an-American; having fans around me and my brother wonder what the heck our “229” chant meant until Eric Karros broke Ron Cey’s L.A. Dodger record with his 229th homerun; eating Krispy Kreme donuts after the Dodgers scored 10 runs in a home victory in the first years of the millenium; “Game Over” Eric Gagne; restraining my joy somewhat so as not to completely scare the wits out of the two neighborhood girls who were helping me set up my wife’s blowout 40th birthday party when Steve Finley hit the grand slam to send the Dodgers to the 2004 playoffs; the Lima Game against the Mets in those ’04 playoffs and my appearance on local TV that night which my wife later compared to Jimmy Fallon at spring training in “Fever Pitch”; the back-to-back-to-back-to-back home runs of 2006; the two virtual must-win victories at Arizona in late August of 2008 that propelled us into the post-season; finally winning a post-season series last year and again this year and so much more.
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Yes, it’s been a long 21 years, but I wouldn’t trade it with any Yankees, Braves, or Red Sox fan.
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And when the Dodgers do win the World Series again, all the suffering, all the unfulfilled optimism, will make the victory celebration so much sweeter.
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I’ve been actively trying for not 21 years, but at least 32, to go to a World Series Game. I’ve been denied for reasons ranging from lack of any inkling of natural athletic ability and thus lack of actual participation, to the poverty of youth, broken Ticketmaster machines, college geography, and of course the team itself, from ever seeing a World Series Game.
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Please, oh, please, 2009 Dodgers, make the dream of my life come true.

Well. I’ve decided not to watch tonights game. Will tape it and see what the outcome is. I’m thouroughly disgusted. Broxton needs to work on something besides his fastball. I’d like to punch him out when I get bigger. Will see tomorrow if we’re still in it.
Good luck Dodgers.

I have a somewhat different take on the bullpen blowup – in fact two ineffective performances now. The name is George Sherrill. Remember game 1? Big control pitcher walks two and then BOOM. Last night – lack of control makes Joe bring in Brox in the eighth instead of the normal ninth inning to close it out. In between he’s sitting in the cold dugout like 20 minutes. It’s obvious when he comes out for the ninth that he’s lost his control. If it wasn’t for the walk and the hit batter ahead of Rollins, Rollins’ hit would likely just still leave him on the bases. Brox didn’t get the job done? Yes. Torre screwed up by relying on Sherrill? I say also YES. The guy’s proven to be a loser in playoff situations so far. That’s the way the cookie crumbles.

IT AIN’T OVER TIL THE FAT LADY SINGS!
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So I will not listen to music today (to avoid singing) and I just hope the Phillies did not hire ROSEANN to sing at the game.
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I still have hope…..LET’S GO DODGERS!

As an east coast Dodger fan it is really hard to see my favorite team play on a consistent basis. Last night i was at the game an never before have i been so mad or hated Philadelphia as much. I had to sit in a seat apart from my brother and cousins by myself for the last two innings and the second i sat down the guy behind me started going into a rant about how all east coast dodger fans are bandwagons and posers and just started liking them this year. I didn’t respond because i knew that i know more about our single a team then he does about the phillies. Then when they started waving those stupid rally towels he started hitting me in the head with his. At that point i was ready to snap but i contained myself because i wanted to gloat at the end of the game. But when rollinsgot the hit he started rubbing my head and grabbing me so i elbowed him in the chest and swung at him. Luckily somebody pushed me away or else id be in jail right now but wow i hate the city of philadelphia so much right now and all of their cocky fans! I know the boys can pull it off and i will now be rooting harder than ever before for them to do so

I can always tell how despondent I am after a Dodger game by the way I sleep. And I can tell you, not very well last night. Funny, being a fan, I mean. So I can only imagine how the players felt last night. I expected in the aftermath of the loss–being such a heartbreaking, depressing affair–that any “normal” Phils phan would just stay away from smack, at least for a night. Even mangy dogs give wide berth to a sickly one. But no, a certain author treated us to the same tired, hindsight crap, crap so “creative” that it was copied and pasted on the Phils’ blog as well. “There’s a little black spot on the sun today, same old thing as yesterday.”

Mike ~ I feel sorry for you and your experience in Philly. I’d be afraid to wear my Dodger Blue there….here, it’s the same going to a Raiders game wearing the other teams colors…you really take the chance of being assaulted, both physically and verbally.

Mike – I am soooo very sorry to read about your experience at the game last night. It’s bad enough be taunted on our DODGER blog, but it’s quite another having it done live and in person. It’s hard enough being a Dodger fan in another team’s territory, but you should still be able to enjoy a baseball game no matter which team you are cheering for. I should know…………..I live in Giants Country, but fortunately, I have not had the awful experience at AT&T Park like you had there. There’s a big difference between rivalry and cruelty, and I think what you experienced is just cruel. Once again, sorry to read that :(

F*****G WALKS! It’s going to be a long time before I ever accept this loss! If I had 5 dollars for everytime I’ve shook my head and said Unf*****gbelievable since last night, we could all retire to Tahiti. Game four, same set up. Brox took the loss,but Sherrill did his share to set it up. Unf******believable!

How you Dodgers fans feeling now!!!! The Phillies have your number. Never count out the World Champs.
MLB.com, right before Rollins’ game winning hit, posted that the Dodgers had won and tied the series 2-2. They should be ashamed of themselves for disrespecting the Phillies and their fans.

Oh shut up Gary you guys are **** without your bandbox stadium. You had your owners paying the umps off in game 4. Your mean chump you would not even won last year if it wasn’t for the Mets choke. Philly stick suck and I hope you choke of a cheesestreak.

MIKE – sorry to hear about your experience at the game last night. Some phans can be so freaken annoying and just about all teams have a few of them.
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The ump was just making sooooo many bad calls last night.
What goes around will come around.

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Broxton is going to have to earn my respect back after that wussy performance last night. Walking Stairs because of last year? You see anyone afraid of crappy Manny just because of last year? Then hitting Ruiz? Man, if you can’t throw your 100mph fastball at the bottom of the order then you are no major league closer IMO. Rollins should have never been up and at least the winning run should not have been on. Wuss.
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It is hard to keep the faith in blue after the last two games the Dodgers played. This is the division series not little league. The guys need to step up their game or they will be going home with their tails between their legs AGAIN. Come on guys lets give our skipper one more ring before he retires.

I am a phillies fan, and a baseball fan that goes to a lot of games both at home and on the road. I was at last nights game sitting in center field. A Philly fan was really on Matt Kemp and was out of control. Kemp showed real class and handled it like the professional he is. I have to say I am now a Matt Kemp fan. All the best except in game 5.

A very disappointing and devastating loss last night, but you have to give the Phillies credit. They get the job done when they have to. Our guys have failed repeatedly when they had scoring chances and our pitchers have walked/hit way too many batters that later scored. Then there are the series pitching selections and moves by Joe. In my opinion he overuses his bullpen and eventually that comes back to haunt you. Starters on our team all season long were not expected or allowed to complete ballgames. What a change from the old days when pitchers were expected to go nine innings. Don Newcombe even pitched the first game of a double header (which he won) and then pitched into the seventh inning of the second game, which he lost by a score of 3-2 if memory serves me right. But I know this is a different era. Now starters are expected to go six innings and then you bring on your 7th inning specialist followed by your 8th inning specialist followed by your 9th inning specialist. Maybe next year we’ll have a 6th inning specialist too.

I think Joe made some poor choices in his starting rotation for this series, and I think that his use of Broxton in the 8th inning last night was a big mistake. A fresh Broxton who wasn’t on the bench for a long half inning would have probably provided a different result. But that’s the way Joe manages and it’s not going to change. Maybe he thinks Broxton is another Mariano Rivera, but unfortunately that’s not the case.

Miracles can still happen, and it’s never over until it’s over (as we found out last night) but it’s looking pretty bleak right now. And if season ends in the next three games, there have been some great moments during the season to remember and enough blame to pass around for another failure. And that blame certainly starts at the top with Frank and Ned, continues with Joe, and finally gets down to some players.

But in the meantime, GO DODGERS! Show that you have what it takes to be World Champions and make us all proud – and ashamed for doubting your chances!

The key thing now is to get ready for tomorrow’s game, both mentally and physically. I’m sure Andre is getting some extra batting practice. I sure hope the rest of the team is doing the same. Nothing else matters right now. Not last night’s game. Not the potential of games 6 & 7 in Dodger Stadium. Just be ready to win tomorrow night.

It sure would be a welcomed site to see the Boys get some early runs across the plate tomorrow……..
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I know it is Hammels at home and that is a tough task but we can do anything we set our minds on……
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Ain’t Nothin To It …..But…..To Do It!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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GO DODGERS GO!!!!!!!!!!!
BRING THE RING TO L.A. IN 2009!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Enjoy your afternoon and evening everyone :-)

?When you get into a tight place and everything goes against you, till it seems as though you could not hold on a minute longer, never give up then, for that is just the place and time that the tide will turn.?
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I agree with Scott’s post from October 20, 2009 12:05 PM. I would like to add that I feel that Broxton has a closer’s arm but not a closer psyche. Hopefully he can develop that in time. Also after Martin singled to tie the score at 2 in the 4th Casey Blake grounded out to end the inning. Wouldn’t it have been nice if he would have gotten a bases clearing double. It seems lately we never get the big hit to open up the lead. We are always going into the 9th with either a 1 or 2 run lead and Broxton never has any margin for error. Tomorrow I will root like crazy for the Dodgers, but after last night I don’t have any confidence in them to win one game let alone three.

I agree with Scott’s post from October 20, 2009 12:05 PM. I would like to add that I feel that Broxton has a closer’s arm but not a closer psyche. Hopefully he can develop that in time. Also after Martin singled to tie the score at 2 in the 4th Casey Blake grounded out to end the inning. Wouldn’t it have been nice if he would have gotten a bases clearing double. It seems lately we never get the big hit to open up the lead. We are always going into the 9th with either a 1 or 2 run lead and Broxton never has any margin for error. Tomorrow I will root like crazy for the Dodgers, but after last night I don’t have any confidence in them to win one game let alone three.

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