there ya go....first post edited. didn't see you mention that to yourself - twice , but ok.

I guess the rest of this thread is pretty much invalidated then. all yours man...

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Post all you like friend. If you want start a dedicated thread for MoH do it. Kurgan did the same thing with BC2 when I had already started a clubhouse. I don't mind at all. Just be sure to keep it updated like Kurgan did and give credit when due. Ill post any info I find in it also.

Though EALA is doing the single-player for Medal of Honor, it's DICE (makers of Battlefield: Bad Company 2) handling the multiplayer component. While the expectation may be for DICE to offer up Battlefield's multiplayer with a different coat of paint, that's not the case at all. Medal of Honor's multiplayer certainly has elements of DICE's design heritage, but it's more about ground infantry combat. The battles, 12-on-12 online matches featuring special forces versus insurgents, are intense and brutal. You die quickly thanks to "faster bullets" as DICE describes it, and a lack of health packs. This is war. Good luck surviving.

You begin your online career as a U.S. Army Ranger, but progress up levels, unlocking new items on your way to becoming a Tier 1 Operator. And you definitely want to become Tier 1 -- that's when you unlock a beard. The beard doesn't kill, it just looks bad ass. On the way to unlocking a beard, you'll be opening up new modifications for your weapons. Weapons can support three mods, which can be switched out between rounds. DICE promises hundreds of combinations. Weapons will become one of the biggest variables in Medal of Honor, far more so than in more first-person shooters.

Experience is earned for completing mission objectives and for kills. There are bonuses for certain types of kills, as well as score chains. It's not just about getting a bunch of kills in a match, but in getting quick batches of kills.

Score chains unlock Tactical Support Actions. These are similar to Killstreak Rewards in Modern Warfare 2, but have some notable differences. The biggest difference is that you always have the choice between offensive or defensive support actions. Do you want to give your teammates armor or buffed health? Or would you rather call in a mortar strike? The decision could be tactical or selfish, depending on your point of view and the choice that's made. But it can certainly turn the tide of battle. And it's great to have a way to better your team rather than earn a couple of extra quick kills.

There are two modes available in Medal of Honor multiplayer, spread out over eight maps. Combat Mission takes you to the Helmand Valley, an actual location in Afghanistan. This is a series of objective-based missions. The one I was shown had us playing as U.S. soldiers attempting to destroy a large weapons cache. Our opponents played as Taliban insurgents hell-bent on stopping us.

The mission has five objectives. Your ultimate goal is to call in your F-15s to blow up the weapons cache. But you need to first take out some anti-aircraft guns. To get to these, you'll need to guide a Bradley tank past some obstructions. This includes a few roadblocks along the way. As with Bad Company 2, you can hop into the Bradley and have some fun destroying enemies. But Medal of Honor isn't really about large-scale vehicle combat. Don't expect to be flying helicopters everywhere or driving an army of tanks. This mission has a single tank, which your ground troops must protect.

The insurgents will have the upper hand in many areas. There are some places where they have the high ground and can dig in to protect their territory. Death will come quickly, but respawns are plentiful. Currently, there's no kill cam or way to see who killed you, which needs to be addressed before Medal of Honor ships in October. There is minor environmental destruction, so you can bomb out a house where a sniper is camping, but you might have to die three times in a row to figure out which house he's in.

In true DICE fashion, Combat Mission requires teamwork if you hope to beat down the insurgents and take out the weapons cache. Everyone can run around like independent jerks, which is exactly what happens when you get a dozen journalists in a room, but once this game is out, working as a team can only help.

The other mode is Team Assault, which takes place in the ruins of Kabul (at least for the E3 demo map). This is Team Deathmatch in the city slums, where players push to win a certain set of points on the map. The emphasis is on knowing the map and keeping on the move. There's a lot of vertical gameplay in this one, with two- and three-story buildings. As I said earlier, combat can be pretty unforgiving. But the reward for sticking with it is readily apparent. The better you get, the more easily you can unlock the Tactical Support Actions. These are a lot of fun and since you aren't tied to a specific set, feel more versatile than Modern Warfare 2.

Leveling up wasn't part of the E3 experience, but my sense is that unlocking weapon parts is going to become addictive. If there really are as many possibilities as DICE promises, we should see hundreds of different weapons on the field of battle.

Medal of Honor seems to be the perfect combination of Call of Duty and Battlefield: Bad Company 2. You no longer have to fight over which game is better, because Medal of Honor offers the best of both. If the full game is as good as the E3 demo, then this may just be the multiplayer game of the year.

I got it off impulse actually. first thing yesterday morning it wasn't yet on steam... I am assuming it will be as easy or easier to return with impulse (if necessary)... however if not lesson learned.

If you want to be in on the Beta on the first possible day (the 17th), two possible ways I heard about:

First off, you have to own BFBC2, console version with VIP code registered with EA, or PC version having registered on EA and played online.

Second, either pre-order MOH from the EA store, where they will send your beta code almost immediately on your receipt, or having bought BFBC2 on Steam, pre-order MOH on Steam.

AFAIK, all other vendors will not be sending out beta keys until the 18 at the earliest. Some say they will not send out beta keys until the 21st.

According to the Medal of Honor web site, the vendors said to be participating in the beta are: EA Store, GameStop, Amazon, Impulse, GamersGate, Steam, Gametap, and Direct 2 Drive.

That list does not include Play, which first leaked news of the beta, so maybe that list is not complete?

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Sorry, I don't see the logic of why I have to pay them to beta test a probable buggy game. Betas are in my eyes never designed to be paid for. And at $59.99 some are really not seeing this for what it is. Specially if you think people should pay early for access to a beta. Another thing is that you have to look at how well they did with BC2. We are still waiting for a patch to fix most (not all) of the problems with the game. I'm not talking well beta tested problems, I'm talking about programing 101 problems:
-VOIP not working
-can only see 6 servers at a time in favorites/history
-hit registration not working as it should
-etc
When you have overwhelming evidence that suggest that we should hold off 1st why should we dedicate threads to this game? Are we really that desperate for a new PC game that we throw caution to the wind?

heh. i did the dedicated server thing with BC2 and it was a shit storm of complaints since EA/DICE simply were not ready to handle the volume of players and bugs in the code.

as i get older it just seems to make more sense to wait 6 months after a game drops to buy it. first, the company has all the bugs worked out. second, you dont have to spend a ton of cash on new hardware to play the game.

@ eastcoast- In my opinion I'm not really paying to play this beta. Sure I ponied up the cash to get access but at any given moment I can cancel the order and be on my way having spent nothing. $59.99 US is too much for the average PC game but with the rate I grow tired of games I'll probably get my fill from the beta alone.

There is a good chance the game will be buggy and it also might have horrible gameplay but at least everyone will know based on our feedback.

You might think the game is a waste of time and that's the opinion you're entitled to.. just like this discussion thread is our entitlement.

I want to play those games anyway. So it'll either be $60 for a pc game or $60 for a console game. if it's a shooter i'll get it for pc. I won't pirate it. I want to play it. it costs money. but i want to play it - and i won't pirate it. so i buy it.

it's what i do. i buy games, i play them. it's fun. I don't do it for the fiscal and economic stability it affords me.... i do it because i like video games

I wasn't dissin' ya for paying 60 bucks for it, I just felt burned from MW2. I've spent a lot of money on hardware and games in the last few months. If I was that into playing this specific game, I'd be able to separate myself from my cash pretty quickly.

I got a serious backlog on games anyways, I just beat Half-Life 2 for the first time this week and just started Ep1.

I wasn't dissin' ya for paying 60 bucks for it, I just felt burned from MW2. I've spent a lot of money on hardware and games in the last few months. If I was that into playing this specific game, I'd be able to separate myself from my cash pretty quickly.

I got a serious backlog on games anyways, I just beat Half-Life 2 for the first time this week and just started Ep1.

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yeah i probably got a little touchy - as truthfully it does feel stupid to pay full price + $10 for a game... but I did it so now i have to defend it

@ eastcoast- In my opinion I'm not really paying to play this beta. Sure I ponied up the cash to get access but at any given moment I can cancel the order and be on my way having spent nothing. $59.99 US is too much for the average PC game but with the rate I grow tired of games I'll probably get my fill from the beta alone.

There is a good chance the game will be buggy and it also might have horrible gameplay but at least everyone will know based on our feedback.

You might think the game is a waste of time and that's the opinion you're entitled to.. just like this discussion thread is our entitlement.

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Yes, we are all entitled to our opinion but, at the same time we have to see it for what it is. This game won't be release until Fall of 2010. Tomorrow you will pre-pay for it and in return you will help them beta test it, all at your cost of $50 + $10. I really don't see why one would need to "cancel the order" if one's mind is already made up. And, obtaining a refund will all depend on the merchant because you are getting access to the game. After going through all the hassle to me it isn't worth it.

You could simply believe that you are not charge until the game is shipped throwing caution to the wind. However, keep in mind that some did that for BC2 and some found out that you couldn't get a refund because of the beta.

There are plenty of games coming out for the PC and really don't see the need to pre-pay to be invited to beta testing at $50 + $10 for the trouble. For example, APB which offers a free beta. Regardless if you like that game or not.

So in the end, perhaps one could cancel the order if they are fortunate enough to do so. But if one does it would suggest to me that it should have never been purchased to begin with. For example, after the Gulf Coast issue would you trust BP to drill for more oil there? If not, why are you giving them another chance "at your cost" when the same thing applies? IE: Fool me once shame on you...

Yes, we are all entitled to our opinion but, at the same time we have to see it for what it is. This game won't be release until Fall of 2010. Tomorrow you will pre-pay for it and in return you will help them beta test it, all at your cost of $50 + $10. I really don't see why one would need to "cancel the order" if one's mind is already made up. And, obtaining a refund will all depend on the merchant because you are getting access to the game. After going through all the hassle to me it isn't worth it.

You could simply believe that you are not charge until the game is shipped throwing caution to the wind. However, keep in mind that some did that for BC2 and some found out that you couldn't get a refund because of the beta.

There are plenty of games coming out for the PC and really don't see the need to pre-pay to be invited to beta testing at $50 + $10 for the trouble. For example, APB which offers a free beta. Regardless if you like that game or not.

So in the end, perhaps one could cancel the order if they are fortunate enough to do so. But if one does it would suggest to me that it should have never been purchased to begin with. For example, after the Gulf Coast issue would you trust BP to drill for more oil there? If not, why are you giving them another chance "at your cost" when the same thing applies? IE: Fool me once shame on you...

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I do see your points however I did order through Steam and Steam will refund my purchase if I ask them to. I have friends who pre-ordered and played the BC2 beta though Steam. Due to connection issues and general dislike for the game they were refunded.

I agree that having the beta with free access would be better at the same time having pre-order beta only does limit the beta to those who actually want to play and test the game vs those who simply want another game to pwn.

I do see your points however I did order through Steam and Steam will refund my purchase if I ask them to. I have friends who pre-ordered and played the BC2 beta though Steam. Due to connection issues and general dislike for the game they were refunded.

I agree that having the beta with free access would be better at the same time having pre-order beta only does limit the beta to those who actually want to play and test the game vs those who simply want another game to pwn.

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If that's true then it was only a select few. I recall a few who wanted their money back and didn't get it.

If that's true then it was only a select few. I recall a few who wanted their money back and didn't get it.

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I remember a few who waited until the day of or after beta was over, and asked for money back. that was ingenuous and they didn't deserve it. i'll need 15 minutes to know whether i want to stick with my purchase or not - if not i will return and uninstall immediately...as i did with sto.

UPDATE: The Medal of Honor beta for the Xbox 360 is delayed but it is expected to be available next week. We are extremely disappointed about this, but want to assure you that we are dedicated and determined to delivering all of you this awesome multiplayer experience as soon as possible. However, we are excited to extend the beta to make up for lost time! The beta will continue as planned for the PlayStation 3 and PC. For these platforms the beta starts on June 21st, however players who own Battlefield: Bad Company 2 and have pre-ordered will be able to enter on June 17th. More information and Beta availability updates can be found at www.medalofhonor.com/betainfo

You can redeem your key for the PC and PlayStation 3 here starting on June 17.