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Lord Helmet

03-05-2011, 07:30 PM

Let's get a win, Indy!

LA_Confidential

03-05-2011, 07:37 PM

Roy has a significant size advantage over all of the Rockets bigs. I hope he treats them like he's playing against Dwight Howard.

OakMoses

03-05-2011, 07:38 PM

For me the question is which 2 of Budinger, Martin, and Scola are we going to make look like all-stars?

LA_Confidential

03-05-2011, 07:38 PM

For me the question is which 2 of Budinger, Martin, and Scola are we going to make look like all-stars?

My money's on Lowry.

cdash

03-05-2011, 07:38 PM

Haywoode Workman is officiating this game. Yeahhhhhh, buddy!

dohman

03-05-2011, 07:39 PM

I really wish I would of taken better. Price of the schedule. I would have gotten some tickets to tonights game as well.

Scot Pollard

03-05-2011, 07:41 PM

After seeing that video, I want us to wear our gold uniforms for a change.

I hate those gold warm ups we wear on the road. We should wear those warm ups at home and the blue ones from at home on the road.

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 07:53 PM

After seeing that video, I want us to wear our gold uniforms for a change.

I hate those gold warm ups we wear on the road. We should wear those warm ups at home and the blue ones from at home on the road.

In fact, next year we just need new jerseys as a whole to show the start of a "New era", so to speak.

Scot Pollard

03-05-2011, 08:02 PM

In fact, next year we just need new jerseys as a whole to show the start of a "New era", so to speak.

I love our uniforms and these ones were designed to create the new era.

These scream Danny Granger era and they look good on Paul George and Roy Hibbert.

In all honesty, we have the best uniforms and the Warriors tried to copy us by making the colors and collar the same but theres are the worst in the NBA.

Blink

03-05-2011, 08:05 PM

I would love to have Scola playing for the good guys.

itzryan07

03-05-2011, 08:09 PM

i love our jerseys accept the gold. our jerseys are so clean

Lord Helmet

03-05-2011, 08:16 PM

We need to get a win here unless we want to be watching the playoffs from home.

Lord Helmet

03-05-2011, 08:17 PM

I could live without the Gold alternates. It'd be nice if we had a Flo-Jo alternate.

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 08:21 PM

I think a Black and yellow altenate jersey would be tight

ziplockfresh

03-05-2011, 08:23 PM

I may be alone in this...But a black jersey with a blue collar and gold accents would look great.

edit: Never mind !

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 08:25 PM

I may be alone in this...But a black jersey with a blue collar and gold accents would look great.

edit: Never mind !

Im sure we are in the minority with tis but I think it would be awesome.

Young

03-05-2011, 08:26 PM

Am I the only one who misses the pinstripes?

As for the game I really enjoy watching the Rockets play. They don't have the all stars but I enjoy watching guys like Chuck Hayes and Luis Scola.

ziplockfresh

03-05-2011, 08:28 PM

Im sure we are in the minority with tis but I think it would be awesome.

It really would be. We can always imagine.

kester99

03-05-2011, 08:32 PM

I want a win...play buck nekkid, I don't care.

Trophy

03-05-2011, 08:34 PM

I really like our regular home and road uniform, but the gold ones are too light to be worn against a team in white, but they're not terrible.

I tend to wear a gold jersey on the road so I stand out.

A different looking alternative tweeked throwback Flo Jo navy uni would be cool.

ziplockfresh

03-05-2011, 08:36 PM

I really like our regular home and road uniform, but the gold ones are too light to be worn against a team in white, but they're not terrible.

I tend to wear a gold jersey on the road so I stand out.

A different looking alternative tweaked throwback Flo Jo navy uni would be cool.

No. You can't tweak a throwback. You end up with the black Magic jersey.

PacerPenguins

03-05-2011, 08:42 PM

bad start

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 08:42 PM

It's going to be Luis Scola that has an amazing game vs. us.

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 08:46 PM

That was a pathetic call. Fire the ref right on the spot.

Sookie

03-05-2011, 08:46 PM

For the record, I have league pass broadband, and I hear the other team's commentators a lot. And Every commentator seems to like McRoberts a lot. Seems like the cats out of the bag, and to keep him we'd probably have to pay more than we want to.

Unclebuck

03-05-2011, 08:46 PM

schedule loss more than likely tonight. 4 in 5. 5 in 7.

Also Hayes is the type of defender that gives Roy a lot of problems. And hayes is a very good low post defender, very good

Sookie

03-05-2011, 08:47 PM

schedule loss more than likely tonight. 4 in 5. 5 in 7.

Also Hayes is the type of defender that gives Roy a lot of problems

We need a win. Badly.

LA_Confidential

03-05-2011, 08:49 PM

So let me get this straight. We finally whip out those beautiful gold jerseys and I cant watch the game. Thats some bull. The gold ones are the best Uni's we got. :censored:

I'll see em on Sportscenter.

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 08:50 PM

Our starting unit is ridiculously careless. Wow.

xIndyFan

03-05-2011, 08:50 PM

this is a cluster:censored:. pacers should be killing these guys on matchups. right now pacers are playing like the dumbest team in the league. :mad:

Thoreau87

03-05-2011, 08:50 PM

sigh

ziplockfresh

03-05-2011, 08:50 PM

I really dislike Martin.

Unclebuck

03-05-2011, 08:50 PM

So let me get this straight. We finally whip out those beautiful gold jerseys and I cant watch the game. Thats some bull. The gold ones are the best Uni's we got. :censored:

I'll see em on Sportscenter.

maybe my TV is a little off, but there are no gold unis tonight

Unclebuck

03-05-2011, 08:51 PM

this is a cluster:censored:. pacers should be killing these guys on matchups. right now pacers are playing like the dumbest team in the league. :mad:

Which matchups. maybe only Granger. Not any others

ziplockfresh

03-05-2011, 08:51 PM

So let me get this straight. We finally whip out those beautiful gold jerseys and I cant watch the game. Thats some bull. The gold ones are the best Uni's we got. :censored:

I'll see em on Sportscenter.

Nope , navy jerseys tonight.

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 08:51 PM

Lowry is having his way

Merz

03-05-2011, 08:51 PM

So let me get this straight. We finally whip out those beautiful gold jerseys and I cant watch the game. Thats some bull. The gold ones are the best Uni's we got. :censored:

I'll see em on Sportscenter.
Don't worry, they're wearing the blues

Trophy

03-05-2011, 08:51 PM

No. You can't tweak a throwback. You end up with the black Magic jersey.

Of course you can.

Look at the Jazz, Warriors, etc.

They still kept the style, but made it more modern.

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 08:52 PM

I really dislike Martin.

If Lance Stephenson were to start next year, I wouldn't be opposed to bringing Martin here at all. He is about as bad as Collison as a defender and we need talent so bad it's just silly.

xIndyFan

03-05-2011, 08:52 PM

I would love to have Scola playing for the good guys.

:amen: he is so skilled. he would be the perfect fit with roy on a high-low post offense.

Unclebuck

03-05-2011, 08:53 PM

Hayes is shutting Roy down

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 08:53 PM

Thats why Chuck Hayes has been in the league this long

LA_Confidential

03-05-2011, 08:53 PM

maybe my TV is a little off, but there are no gold unis tonight

Thanks for the info. I was ginuinely pissed. :laugh:

All this talk about the uni's made me wonder.

Sookie

03-05-2011, 08:53 PM

If Lance Stephenson were to start next year, I wouldn't be opposed to bringing Martin here at all. He is about as bad as Collison as a defender and we need talent so bad it's just silly.

Our backcourt defense would be worse than Collison/Dun in that scenario.

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 08:53 PM

I'm not liking our defense.. Shocker.

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 08:53 PM

Hayes is shutting Roy down

Ya he is a beast defensivly for his size

Thoreau87

03-05-2011, 08:54 PM

Can't wait until Lance gets in... I'm thinking he has a huge game tonight against these tiny guards.

Gold

03-05-2011, 08:54 PM

Chuck Hayes can really bully taller players.

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 08:55 PM

Wow Collison was a joke that possession. That was awful, terrible, and everything else.

TheDon

03-05-2011, 08:55 PM

Man this is ugly

Kuq_e_Zi91

03-05-2011, 08:55 PM

Collison looked EXACTLY like TJ on that traveling turnover. Dribble in place, pick up the dribble, go no where and turn it over. Makes me want to pull my hair out.

Unclebuck

03-05-2011, 08:56 PM

For the pacers to have any chance tonight Danny needs at least 30 points, probably more like 35

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 08:56 PM

Would anyone be open for trying to pursue Chuck Hayes in the offseason? He's like a poor man's Kendrick Perkins. I'd personally love him here for 20-26 minutes a game at the center spot.

What a bail out call.

TheDon

03-05-2011, 08:56 PM

It seems like darren has absolutely no awareness of game clock

Unclebuck

03-05-2011, 08:56 PM

maybe our bench can win the game tonight

Kuq_e_Zi91

03-05-2011, 08:56 PM

I want to listen to Slick and Mark, but for some reason Directv is behind their call. This sucks!

Unclebuck

03-05-2011, 08:57 PM

Would anyone be open for trying to pursue Chuck Hayes in the offseason? He's like a poor man's Kendrick Perkins. I'd personally love him here for 20-26 minutes a game at the center spot.

What a bail out call.
is he a free agent?

To answer your question - yes

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 08:57 PM

Wow. This officiating is getting out of hand.

tora tora

03-05-2011, 08:57 PM

Scola's got some sick post moves

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 08:58 PM

is he a free agent?

To answer your question - yes

I think he is, but even if he isn't I want him. :-p

What a move by Tyler.

Unclebuck

03-05-2011, 08:58 PM

Wow. This officiating is getting out of hand.

I love it, they are letting them play

Jared Sullinger

03-05-2011, 08:58 PM

Brandon Rush is the worst starting shooting guard in the NBA.

Unclebuck

03-05-2011, 08:59 PM

Yes I want hayes on the Pacers

TheDon

03-05-2011, 08:59 PM

Damn roy just got teched up lol so did hayes

Lmao did anyone see what that midget mouthed to roy? "I will **** you up"

xIndyFan

03-05-2011, 08:59 PM

i like the way the game in being officiated.

DemonHunter1105

03-05-2011, 08:59 PM

Chuck Hayes thinks he is the **** but he is just a little *****.

Gold

03-05-2011, 08:59 PM

Hayes "I'll **** you up!"

LOL! oh man!

captainC

03-05-2011, 08:59 PM

The pacers seem to pass up too many opportunities on a consistent basis. very frustrating to watch.

itzryan07

03-05-2011, 08:59 PM

Big Roy getting mean i like it!

Mr_Smith

03-05-2011, 08:59 PM

Chuck Hayes just said I'll F**k you up to Roy

Jared Sullinger

03-05-2011, 08:59 PM

Eurotrash with the flop.

Trophy

03-05-2011, 08:59 PM

These refs are barely calling a thing.

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 08:59 PM

Chuck Hayes just said "I'll **** you up" to Hibbert lol

Unclebuck

03-05-2011, 08:59 PM

Brandon Rush is the worst starting shooting guard in the NBA.

wait, who used to be our starting shooting guard

Kuq_e_Zi91

03-05-2011, 09:00 PM

You don't have to be able to read lips very well to understand what Hayes was saying to Roy.

AesopRockOn

03-05-2011, 09:00 PM

I think Hayes said " I'll **** you up" and Roy said "You'll **** me up?" and Hayes said back "Yeah, I'll **** you up"

Double techs.

dohman

03-05-2011, 09:00 PM

I cant believe they will just let him say I'll **** y up without being ejected.

Pacertron

03-05-2011, 09:00 PM

Chuck Hayes just said I'll F**k you up to Roy

Hah you beat me to it, that was pretty funny. Chuck Who? Thought so.

Trophy

03-05-2011, 09:00 PM

Chuck Hayes just said I'll F**k you up to Roy

He may be a center, but at 6-6, he needs to shut up because Roy will crush his ***.

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 09:00 PM

We are just to selfish of a basketball team.

Sookie

03-05-2011, 09:00 PM

I love Tyler.

I wouldn't want him playing 30+ minutes a game, because he can..hurt the team at times. But that energy and aggressiveness..I just love Tyler.

I cant believe they will just let him say I'll **** y up without being ejected.

You would be surprised what gets said on a basketball court. You can't throw them out for that.

itzryan07

03-05-2011, 09:03 PM

Lance Stephenson at the point!

ziplockfresh

03-05-2011, 09:03 PM

Of course you can.

Look at the Jazz, Warriors, etc.

They still kept the style, but made it more modern.

I dislike both jerseys really.

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 09:04 PM

Here's Brad Miller to hit 4 threes on us and destroy us.

LA_Confidential

03-05-2011, 09:04 PM

Argentina?

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Why am I missing this game. :(

Unclebuck

03-05-2011, 09:05 PM

He may be a center, but at 6-6, he needs to shut up because Roy will crush his ***.

That is not even close to being the truth. Size or lack of size is not that inmportant to one-on-one post defense. Especially against Hibbert

Sookie

03-05-2011, 09:05 PM

That's a really weak call ref..

AesopRockOn

03-05-2011, 09:05 PM

Damn, dude. The Rockets are just better than we are.

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 09:05 PM

I love it when Danny consistently misses wide open shots.

Unclebuck

03-05-2011, 09:05 PM

how many offensive rebounds already

TheDon

03-05-2011, 09:06 PM

Wow this is really hard to watch

LA_Confidential

03-05-2011, 09:07 PM

That is not even close to being the truth. Size or lack of size is not that inmportant to one-on-one post defense. Especially against Hibbert

I don't think he was talking about basketball.

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 09:07 PM

come on Lance

DemonHunter1105

03-05-2011, 09:07 PM

Danny looked REALLY good on a couple of those possessions, but we didn't score either time somehow.

Trophy

03-05-2011, 09:07 PM

Lance has made a few rookie mistakes.

Everyone is struggling and we can't keep letting teams start the game off hot and then try and work our way back.

LA_Confidential

03-05-2011, 09:08 PM

Wow this is really hard to watch

You're teasing me.;)

ziplockfresh

03-05-2011, 09:09 PM

come on Lance

Watch out second quarter. :dance:

Trophy

03-05-2011, 09:09 PM

I don't think he was talking about basketball.

Yeah I was talking about not messing with a 7-2 guy when you're nearly a foot shorter.

HeliumFear

03-05-2011, 09:09 PM

I smell a blowout. Smells poo-like.

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 09:09 PM

Haha look what I just found, I promise that this is hilarious:

http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/wan/2249569069.html

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 09:10 PM

Nice Paul

tora tora

03-05-2011, 09:10 PM

that's good *** defense Jeff

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 09:11 PM

Nice Jeff

tora tora

03-05-2011, 09:11 PM

Pacers desperately need a shot blocker

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 09:12 PM

God our PnR defense is horrible

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 09:12 PM

Gosh Dahntay is trash he just missed Lance on a wide open post up two feet away form the basket.

oxxo

03-05-2011, 09:12 PM

DJ makes the entire offense grind to a halt. He's an even bigger black hole than Monta Ellis or ZBo.

ziplockfresh

03-05-2011, 09:12 PM

I wish the Pacers had Patterson. He's going to be great.

LA_Confidential

03-05-2011, 09:13 PM

Haha look what I just found, I promise that this is hilarious:

http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/wan/2249569069.html

At least you were honest. :laugh:

TheDon

03-05-2011, 09:13 PM

I swear i f I see one more wide open 3 pointer or an uncontested drive to the rim I'm done for the evening

tora tora

03-05-2011, 09:13 PM

That's not so good defense Jeff

Sookie

03-05-2011, 09:13 PM

Gosh Dahntay is trash he just missed Lance on a wide open post up two feet away form the basket.

Dragic shook Lance off before he was able to really get himself set.

Lord Helmet

03-05-2011, 09:13 PM

This is pretty bad.

Mr_Smith

03-05-2011, 09:15 PM

Just like the last two games on this road trip, the other team is just simply the better team.

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 09:15 PM

Lance was awful 2nite

LA_Confidential

03-05-2011, 09:15 PM

DJ makes the entire offense grind to a halt. He's an even bigger black hole than Monta Ellis or ZBo.

Too bad nobody ever mistook him for an All-Star snub.

PacerPenguins

03-05-2011, 09:15 PM

we r soo bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ziplockfresh

03-05-2011, 09:15 PM

Hans...Stop taking long 2's.

Sookie

03-05-2011, 09:15 PM

Lance was awful 2nite

He's probably tired. Lots of games for a guy that hasn't played all season.

BRushWithDeath

03-05-2011, 09:16 PM

I wish the Pacers had Patterson.

They do. He is wearing #50.

Trophy

03-05-2011, 09:16 PM

This defense is really bad.

We're giving them the easiest looks.

We know how to play well against this team and beat them. Let's Go!

AesopRockOn

03-05-2011, 09:16 PM

Lance isn't ready for the NBA yet. Then again, nobody on our team is up to play this game.

Heisenberg

03-05-2011, 09:16 PM

gonna be a longggg March

Merz

03-05-2011, 09:16 PM

Pacers need to get with the times. Moving picks and screens are apparently legal now...so they might as well use them as every team does against them.

xIndyFan

03-05-2011, 09:16 PM

lance is sucking defensively. :laugh::cry:

rel

03-05-2011, 09:16 PM

God our PnR defense is horrible

this. x1000

yuck

ziplockfresh

03-05-2011, 09:16 PM

Lance was awful 2nite

:laugh: What?

edit: I mean the game just started.. Have some hope for the team guys.

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 09:16 PM

He's probably tired. Lots of games for a guy that hasn't played all season.

No he was just awful

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 09:17 PM

AJ just got burnt god all our pg's suck at defense

LA_Confidential

03-05-2011, 09:17 PM

Were getting our A$$e$ kicked, aren't we?. :shakehead

ziplockfresh

03-05-2011, 09:18 PM

They do. He is wearing #50.

Patterson will be better than Hans for sure.

PacerPenguins

03-05-2011, 09:18 PM

AJ just got burnt god all our pg's suck at defense

our whole team sux at defense

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 09:18 PM

We really could use some more talent.. TJ Ford, Brandon, and Josh aren't getting it done in the starting lineup and our bench is having a hard time. We need a guy who can fill it up and we need a good power forward obviously but we need to look at point guard options too- Once again.

Thoreau87

03-05-2011, 09:18 PM

way to make a play dahntay

AesopRockOn

03-05-2011, 09:19 PM

When did Dahntay become such a poor defender?

TheDon

03-05-2011, 09:19 PM

This is like watching a layup drill at least when roy is in they think about not just going right to the rim not even worth watching lance tonight this is gonna be another okc thunder'esque game

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 09:19 PM

LOL Tyler just got skooled than hacks the **** out of the guy on defense lol

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 09:20 PM

I find it hilarious how Paul George simply is not allowed to touch the ball with AJ, Tyler Hansbrough, and Dahntay Jones in.

BRushWithDeath

03-05-2011, 09:20 PM

Patterson will be better than Hans for sure.

They are the same player. Only one tries to score every time.

oxxo

03-05-2011, 09:20 PM

When did Dahntay become such a poor defender?

Right about when he decided he was actually the next coming of Michael Jordan.

PacerPenguins

03-05-2011, 09:20 PM

omg i give up on this team

ziplockfresh

03-05-2011, 09:21 PM

Why is everyone overreacting to fixable mistakes?

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 09:21 PM

Now I see why Dantay doesnt pass

oxxo

03-05-2011, 09:21 PM

I find it hilarious how Paul George simply is not allowed to touch the ball with AJ, Tyler Hansbrough, and Dahntay Jones in.

Seriously. I HATE watching these guys play. There is ZERO ball movement while we have 2 black holes and one semi-black hole doing Kobe isos. It's ridiculous.

TheDon

03-05-2011, 09:21 PM

23 point game incoming embarassment

Shade

03-05-2011, 09:21 PM

We suck.

Lord Helmet

03-05-2011, 09:21 PM

Put in Solo and Posey. This one's over.

BRushWithDeath

03-05-2011, 09:21 PM

That foul was scarily similar to Austin Etherimgton's injury. Luckily Courtney Lee could catch himself. Should have been flagrant anyway.

Thoreau87

03-05-2011, 09:21 PM

At least I have a Clippers game to look forward to tonight :dance:

HeliumFear

03-05-2011, 09:22 PM

Attention Dahntay Jones: YOU SUCK

ziplockfresh

03-05-2011, 09:22 PM

They are the same player. Only one tries to score every time.

Patterson has more talent..

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 09:22 PM

Why is everyone overreacting to fixable mistakes?

These are the same mistakes we have had all season

croz24

03-05-2011, 09:22 PM

typical hansbrough... looks like another loss against an average to solid team. there is just no semblance of offense with vogel. a bunch of 1on1 play with guys who just can't go 1on1. zero passion from the starters as well. how can anybody actually watch this team play and come away thinking we have a leader on the team?

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 09:22 PM

At least I have a Clippers game to look forward to tonight :dance:

Yepp EJ better drop 30 :dance::dance:

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 09:23 PM

Yeah I've had enough of Price for a while. Only guys he wants to set up is Dahntay, Tyler, and himself.

Heisenberg

03-05-2011, 09:23 PM

I'm getting that hopeless feeling again

oxxo

03-05-2011, 09:23 PM

typical hansbrough... looks like another loss against an average to solid team. there is just no semblance of offense with vogel. a bunch of 1on1 play with guys who just can't go 1on1. zero passion from the starters as well. how can anybody actually watch this team play and come away thinking we have a leader on the team?

Because we weren't playing like this before?

xIndyFan

03-05-2011, 09:23 PM

maybe tylers reputation for hard play worked to save him a technical foul there. that foul looked pretty hard. guess it wasn't excessive.

Sookie

03-05-2011, 09:23 PM

AJ needs to stop giving the ball to Dahntay.

PacerGuy

03-05-2011, 09:23 PM

Wow... :puke:

ziplockfresh

03-05-2011, 09:23 PM

These are the same mistakes we have had all season

And who's to say that players can't develop? Being a fan of a team that isn't so prosperous is all about patience. My favourite team, Raptors..Have been **** for the longest time. There are really no quick fixes.

Trophy

03-05-2011, 09:23 PM

When was the last time we struggled to the Rockets?

At least we kept it close earlier in the year.

TheDon

03-05-2011, 09:23 PM

I think the way we're playing the bucks could sneak up and take the 8th from us

ziplockfresh

03-05-2011, 09:25 PM

Yepp EJ better drop 30 :dance::dance:

Clippers are must watch basketball tonight.:happydanc

PacerPenguins

03-05-2011, 09:25 PM

finally we get a call

Thoreau87

03-05-2011, 09:25 PM

Yepp EJ better drop 30 :dance::dance:

It's almost written... He torches the nuggets. My buddy's in LA at the game tonight. Too bad I couldn't go (:mad: stupid job interviews). They're about to hit up the bars with him later tonight.

Shade

03-05-2011, 09:25 PM

At least I have a Clippers game to look forward to tonight :dance:

You know things are bad when you turn to the Clippers to make things better.

BRushWithDeath

03-05-2011, 09:26 PM

Yeah I've had enough of Price for a while. Only guys he wants to set up is Dahntay, Tyler, and himself.

Every play is run for Tyler. The second option is always a Dahntay mid range iso post. It is not AJ's fault that George isn't involved enough.

Having two complete black holes will make it hard for everyone to be involved.

Thoreau87

03-05-2011, 09:26 PM

You know things are bad when you turn to the Clippers to make things better.

lol

AesopRockOn

03-05-2011, 09:26 PM

That's why it's hard for me to be anti-Danny. He's the only one who undoubtedly belongs on the floor.

Then he throws it away...

PacerPenguins

03-05-2011, 09:26 PM

w ehave a better D with dunleavy out there...sad

BrownBearCoffee

03-05-2011, 09:27 PM

I think it's time for EJ to come home...

croz24

03-05-2011, 09:27 PM

Because we weren't playing like this before?

uhh yea we were, many just didn't notice because we put up some W's. pre all star break we had a stretch against some of the worst teams in the league and still nearly blew a few of those with 4th quarter collapses.

LA_Confidential

03-05-2011, 09:28 PM

Who's else thinks this is the last year of the Danny Granger Era?

Thoreau87

03-05-2011, 09:28 PM

I think it's time for EJ to come home...

A little birdie told me it's in the works :whistle: you didn't hear it from me

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 09:28 PM

Every play is run for Tyler. The second option is always a Dahntay mid range iso post. It is not AJ's fault that George isn't involved enough.

You think it is on Vogel? I dunno; I just want to know why this "Offense' is what it is.

Good hook by Roy.

PacerPenguins

03-05-2011, 09:29 PM

comon rush

BrownBearCoffee

03-05-2011, 09:29 PM

A little birdie told me it's in the works :whistle: you didn't hear it from me

Interesting... I happen to be a HUGE fan of little birdies :D

IU_sears

03-05-2011, 09:29 PM

That foul is why I am glad we don't have Kevin Martin, how soft was that foul???

AesopRockOn

03-05-2011, 09:30 PM

Kevin Martin becomes a tiny bunny on the defensive end.

PacerPenguins

03-05-2011, 09:30 PM

rush wtf! wheres the D????

DemonHunter1105

03-05-2011, 09:30 PM

I am not sure about defensively right now, but Granger seems to be the only guy working hard on the offensive end every time.

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 09:30 PM

Okay, forget defense I want us to go after Kevin Martin. He can't be any worse than our defense right now.

BRushWithDeath

03-05-2011, 09:31 PM

You think it is on Vogel? I dunno; I just want to know why this "Offense' is what it is.

Good hook by Roy.

I think it is on Tyler and Dahntay. That is the only way they can be effective.

Sookie

03-05-2011, 09:31 PM

Shouldn't have taken AJ out..

PacerPenguins

03-05-2011, 09:31 PM

granger takes the dumb shots once again

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 09:31 PM

:pray: Please get back into this. :pray:

TheDon

03-05-2011, 09:32 PM

Everytime quinn says were playing good defense the rockets drain it and he says "well he makes that but that was good defense." Everytime he says that I wish chris would just say just shut up.

Trophy

03-05-2011, 09:32 PM

Danny's really helped us cut into the lead.

Thoreau87

03-05-2011, 09:32 PM

Okay, forget defense I want us to go after Kevin Martin. He can't be any worse than our defense right now.

lol... Can we just steal Rick Adelman and make him coach against his will?

AesopRockOn

03-05-2011, 09:34 PM

Adelman is super underrated.

stephen

03-05-2011, 09:34 PM

mike wells just tweeted that foster had words for the coaching staff during the timeout.

Sookie

03-05-2011, 09:34 PM

I think it is on Tyler and Dahntay. That is the only way they can be effective.

Right, and Dahntay's the most efficient shooter on the team, and Tyler's our best low post (only, really) scorer in the second unit.

I think Price figures that they are going to shoot anyway, might as well set them up for a decent shot.

HeliumFear

03-05-2011, 09:34 PM

Danny's really good when he doesn't do his patented "stand,quick pump,stand,shoot contested jumper" move.

LA_Confidential

03-05-2011, 09:35 PM

lol... Can we just steal Rick Adelman and make him coach against his will?

I could've sworn that was Gene Hackman. :laugh:

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 09:35 PM

Everytime quinn says were playing good defense the rockets drain it and he says "well he makes that but that was good defense." Everytime he says that I wish chris would just say just shut up.

I think it's a curse/jinx.

Oh yeah, and Vogel is pulling an Obie when it comes to Lance and it's pissing me off. I thought he said he trusted his guys. He is letting the other point guards make the same old mistakes that he just made and he couldn't care less about that. But Lance comes in and plays the same yet he gets pulled.

Shade

03-05-2011, 09:35 PM

A little birdie told me it's in the works :whistle: you didn't hear it from me

Don't play with my emotions, man. If it doesn't happen, I'm holding you personally responsible. :security:

AesopRockOn

03-05-2011, 09:35 PM

Did Josh think we were pressing or something?

PacerPenguins

03-05-2011, 09:36 PM

how was that not a foul???

Sookie

03-05-2011, 09:36 PM

I think it's a curse/jinx.

Oh yeah, and Vogel is pulling an Obie when it comes to Lance and it's pissing me off. I thought he said he trusted his guys. He is letting the other point guards make the same old mistakes that he just made and he couldn't care less about that. But Lance comes in and plays the same yet he gets pulled.

He didn't get pulled, there's a set rotation. For the PGs. What he did differently, was not stick Lance back in the game at the SG position.

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 09:36 PM

Okay I've had enough of Collison for a while.

tora tora

03-05-2011, 09:36 PM

Collison is trash.. there I said it.

PacerPenguins

03-05-2011, 09:36 PM

WOW DC!!!!!!!!! **** OFF!!!!!!

Shade

03-05-2011, 09:37 PM

Adelman is super underrated.

Adelman's the one I wanted instead of the bag of crap we ended up with.

croz24

03-05-2011, 09:37 PM

defensive clinic!!! good defense is 90% effort, 10% skill. what does that tell you about this team?

BrownBearCoffee

03-05-2011, 09:37 PM

2nd year point guard or not, DC needs to pull his head out.

AesopRockOn

03-05-2011, 09:38 PM

Aaron Brooks went to the Suns but left Lowry his shooting touch.

Mr_Smith

03-05-2011, 09:38 PM

I've seen enough...goodnight! Go Portland! Beat Charlotte

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 09:38 PM

defensive clinic!!! good defense is 90% effort, 10% skill. what does that tell you about this team?

And where exactly did you come up with that statistic...?

Shade

03-05-2011, 09:38 PM

We badly need a talent infusion.

Right now, NO starting position is set.

HeliumFear

03-05-2011, 09:39 PM

defensive clinic!!! good defense is 90% effort, 10% skill. what does that tell you about this team?

I don't think that's true at all. Steve Nash tries as hard as anyone but is simply incapable of defending.

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 09:39 PM

A little birdie told me it's in the works :whistle: you didn't hear it from me

a S&T or what he is next year RFA i dont know how we are gonna get him once the new CBA kicks in.

BrownBearCoffee

03-05-2011, 09:39 PM

We badly need a talent infusion.

Right now, NO starting position is set.

I agree 150%+2

Trophy

03-05-2011, 09:40 PM

There's no reason for this.

DC has been pissing me off I'll admit.

He's playing like he's never played as a PG before.

None of our PGs are doing too well tonight. Neither is anyone.

TheDon

03-05-2011, 09:40 PM

I think it's a curse/jinx.

Oh yeah, and Vogel is pulling an Obie when it comes to Lance and it's pissing me off. I thought he said he trusted his guys. He is letting the other point guards make the same old mistakes that he just made and he couldn't care less about that. But Lance comes in and plays the same yet he gets pulled.

I am always much more relieved when clark takes his spot don't have to hear quinn giggling like an idiot, and it seems like with both chris and clark there's just a flow of good commentary whereas quinn might as well be dead air.

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 09:41 PM

We badly need a talent infusion.

Right now, NO starting position is set.

I ve been saying that for years we just dont have talent drafting Tyler was poor because his talent celing isnt very high. Rush is just killing me with how he plays.

blow it up!!!!

Thoreau87

03-05-2011, 09:41 PM

Don't play with my emotions, man. If it doesn't happen, I'm holding you personally responsible. :security:

I'm serious about that birdie... But please don't shoot the messenger. Remember, you didn't hear it from me.

AesopRockOn

03-05-2011, 09:41 PM

I disagree. Danny Granger is totally set on the wing.

LA_Confidential

03-05-2011, 09:42 PM

We badly need a talent infusion.

Right now, NO starting position is set except center.

fixed.

Sookie

03-05-2011, 09:42 PM

Well, good news is it is in Arm's reach. I think Collison has to see limited minutes to win this game. And the same goes for Hans and Dahntay if they continue to not shoot so well.

I think the FO is taking this advice, and I'm starting to think the effects are adverse.

ilive4sports

03-05-2011, 09:44 PM

We aren't losing this game because of lack of talent. We are losing because of lack of defense. We allowed 65 points on 51% shooting. Talent has nothing to do with that. You don't need to be talented to play defense. Its lack of effort and our terrible defensive scheme.

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 09:44 PM

We badly need a talent infusion.

Right now, NO starting position is set.

I agree, well outside of Danny. He'd look better if he wasn't trapped/played tight all the time because our talent is so terrible.

-Darren Collison is TJ Ford. I have no hopes that he'll get his game back, and even when he was playing good the opposing point guards were playing better. Go get Raymond Felton or start Lance next year.

-Brandon Rush is terrible. I'm not going to go any farther than that. I still think that his defense is grossly overrated and even if it isn't than it doesn't make up for his complete lack of desire on offense. Please go get someone like OJ, Jamal, etc..

-Danny is fine, but he is treated like a star because we don't have anyone that can step up.

-Josh is a bad starter, and we need a guy who can outperform most power forwards in the league.. Even if it takes gambling on ZBo it's worth it. Josh is good when he is "On" but he is so woefully inconsistent that we never know which Josh we are going to get. Sometimes I forget that he is on the floor.

-Roy is good, but he should only be playing 24-26 minutes a night and we need a very good backup center.

-We need a backup point guard with defense and ability to hit shots. Price has the defense on lock down, but he needs to get healthy so that he can hit his shots.

-Paul needs time to grow so he should be our sixth man getting 28 or so minutes a night. But this year he should be starting because Rush is not a starting shooting guard and Paul deserves better than Tyler, DJ, and Price stealing all of the shots and shot clock.

-We need a backup center that gives more energy than Jeff.. Jeff hasn't been bringing it lately and he is really showing his age.

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 09:45 PM

I'm serious about that birdie... But please don't shoot the messenger. Remember, you didn't hear it from me.

again how is it gonna happen? The only way I see it happing is if he demands a trade. Because with him being a RFA he would be a Clipper for awhile. Unless he agrees to a 1 yr deal with a team the Clippers match and then they would have to trade him. Because they would lose him for nothing the next year. But than he is 3 yrs away from being a Pacer if that is EJ's plan

EDIT: im sure he wants to come home ive heard that. Because of endorsements and such he would get being in IN and being the guy.

Thoreau87

03-05-2011, 09:45 PM

a S&T or what he is next year RFA i dont know how we are gonna get him once the new CBA kicks in.

No idea how it gets done, but he'll come home if he wants to... Haven't the past few years taught us anything? Star players go where they want to. Especially if they're willing to sacrifice money.

LA_Confidential

03-05-2011, 09:45 PM

I ve been saying that for years we just dont have talent drafting Tyler was poor because his talent celing isnt very high. Rush is just killing me with how he plays.

blow it up!!!!

Were in the middle of blowing it up already. Besides Danny all our major pieces are on rookie deals.

Trophy

03-05-2011, 09:45 PM

Tyler needs to stop settling for these bad mid range shots when he's being guarded.

Learn to pass the ball. There's no "I" in team Tyler!

AesopRockOn

03-05-2011, 09:45 PM

Agreed. Vogel is definitely not a defensive savant.

DemonHunter1105

03-05-2011, 09:45 PM

I think we need an offensive system change.

I feel like we are still somewhat built on JOB's framework he left. There is no reason at halftime to only have our leading assist man have 2 total assists. We saw how many Collison could get last year in NO, AJ has better vision and still can't get many, and Lance seems to get a lot of assists only when he wins his 1v1 matchup aka not really running the play but making a play by himself.

This is getting ready to be the 5th loss in 6 games. Yea everybody just chill, everythings ok! :laugh:

Trophy

03-05-2011, 09:47 PM

The talented player I really want is OJ Mayo.

I've become really interested in bringing him in ever since we were close to it.

I'm still confident he's going to be a Pacer at the start of next season.

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 09:47 PM

a15magnum Mr Exclusive
@ElPacero keep faith in them 3p's win or lose they play hard for the city.. LB & DM has a vision things just takes time...trust in them fam
1 minute ago

ilive4sports

03-05-2011, 09:48 PM

And how about we let out players develop some more? What happened to the school of thought "we're okay with losing as long as the young guys play"? Game threads are ridiculous on here. This team is extremely young. Are we the most talented? Of course not, but we have some damn nice pieces. They all just happen to be rookies thru third year players plus Granger.

pacer4ever

03-05-2011, 09:48 PM

Well, good news is it is in Arm's reach. I think Collison has to see limited minutes to win this game. And the same goes for Hans and Dahntay if they continue to not shoot so well.

Dantay Tyler and Rush are horrible

Sookie

03-05-2011, 09:49 PM

See, I told y'all before the season I didn't want TJ mentoring AJ and DC.

Now AJ can't make a three to save his life, and DC is...uh....playing a bit too much like TJ.

;)

BringJackBack

03-05-2011, 09:50 PM

And how about we let out players develop some more? What happened to the school of thought "we're okay with losing as long as the young guys play"? Game threads are ridiculous on here. This team is extremely young. Are we the most talented? Of course not, but we have some damn nice pieces. They all just happen to be rookies thru third year players plus Granger.

For the record I never hopped on that "I just want the young guys" bandwagon. I want them to win and I want talent. That's why I never complained about Mike playing because he was helping us most of the time.

Pacersalltheway10

03-05-2011, 09:50 PM

I don't get what's going on with collison. he was doing really well then just started deflating. Injury? personal problems? Sophomore slump?

Kuq_e_Zi91

03-05-2011, 09:51 PM

And how about we let out players develop some more? What happened to the school of thought "we're okay with losing as long as the young guys play"? Game threads are ridiculous on here. This team is extremely young. Are we the most talented? Of course not, but we have some damn nice pieces. They all just happen to be rookies thru third year players plus Granger.

There will always be something to complain about, and people who love nothing more than complaining.

Word of advice: You'll enjoy the games much more if you avoid game threads.

ilive4sports

03-05-2011, 09:52 PM

For the record I never hopped on that "I just want the young guys" bandwagon. I want them to win and I want talent. That's why I never complained about Mike playing because he was helping us most of the time.

The talent is in the young guys. You can't have it both ways.

And I know I have seen you complain about Mike and have said PG should start.