topic Re: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challenges in Wearableshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/448401#M4281
<P>Thank you !&nbsp; He is down almost 20 pound I am so excited for him!&nbsp; It is so much easier to diet with someone than alone.&nbsp; He eliminated cokes and daily drive thrus for burgers.&nbsp; We are having fun trying new healthy foods like cauliflower mash is one of my new favs !!</P>Fri, 16 Mar 2018 16:37:44 GMTLaurieC642018-03-16T16:37:44Zwhy do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/257082#M4198
<P>trying to understand why Samsung provide a service like global step challenge and then allow cheats to dominate the board every month.. it's not rocket science that if someone dies 200000 steps a day they are cheating or if on average they have done 2 steps a second , every second eithout sleep since the challenge opened they are cheating. why don't Samsung care about this and stop it ? it puts a lot of people off using the service</P>Tue, 29 Aug 2017 12:41:32 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/257082#M4198davert1232017-08-29T12:41:32ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/257129#M4199
<P>Hi I am pretty sure it's not that its being allowed it's just that its not policed as it's not a security threat&nbsp;</P><P>If people are cheating it then they are cheating themselves more than any thing&nbsp;</P><P>I do understand your frustration though as I use it myself on my gear fit 2 and without even trying I have 250000 up to now&nbsp;</P>Tue, 29 Aug 2017 13:13:58 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/257129#M4199DRUIDDOODE2017-08-29T13:13:58ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/267952#M4200
<P>Nothing has changed...</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-center" image-alt="Screenshot_20170912-182829.png" style="width: 486px;"><img src="https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/8995iD615392A129BD645/image-size/large?v=1.0&amp;px=999" title="Screenshot_20170912-182829.png" alt="Screenshot_20170912-182829.png" /></span></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I walk 7 to 10 miles a day, 5 days a week. It is physically impossible to walk over 2 million steps in 12 days. These people need to be banned from global challenges! They are ruining it for the rest of us! If Samsung does not do something I will no longer participate in this nonsense. I feel sorry for the sad pathetic human beings that think this is ok. You only cheat yourself and your health and prevent those of us that actually do try from getting any recognition for our true accomplishments. I wish you nothing but self respect!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:40:52 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/267952#M4200Orren2017-09-13T00:40:52ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/274520#M4201
You are absolutely right. These users should be permanent banned. Now in the September challenge a user in 21 days has 3,5 million steps. That is 166 thousand steps per day.Thu, 21 Sep 2017 08:09:55 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/274520#M4201Panos2017-09-21T08:09:55ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/282961#M4202
I think Samsung actually try to remove cheaters, but the problem is that it is too east to cheat. I have taken part in three challenges to date and in each of them, the previous 'winners' are no longer present. Instead other people realise how easy it is to cheat and take up the cheaters mantle.<BR /><BR />It is the first day of the Green Tea challenge and I can already see someone with 250,000 steps. That is about 125 miles in a single day. If that is not cheating they should be flying about with a cape.<BR /><BR />If Samsung want to encourage people on their 'Health' app, they need to find a way to sanitise their app before it becomes a trending topic.<BR /><BR />Sun, 01 Oct 2017 09:26:35 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/282961#M4202mhumphries422017-10-01T09:26:35ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/283371#M4203
I'm sure that 250k you got wasn't in one day like the people on there now. It's just not possible unless you have multiple gears, phones, and other things that is tracking more than one person's real steps.Mon, 02 Oct 2017 01:50:47 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/283371#M4203Balanced4life152017-10-02T01:50:47ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/283372#M4204
I agreeMon, 02 Oct 2017 01:51:14 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/283372#M4204Balanced4life152017-10-02T01:51:14ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/283375#M4205
I just signed up, there are all ready people that have completed it. Then there are those that sign up, don't try, which increases the steps for the top 10% SMH...3 months now and the same thing...Mon, 02 Oct 2017 03:14:28 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/283375#M4205LaurieC642017-10-02T03:14:28ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/284014#M4206
<P>It would be easy enough for Samsung to create a small programme that weeds out people who's steps exceed the humanly possible. That programme could automatically remove cheaters. All the cheaters are proving is that they know how to hack their device software.&nbsp;</P><P>I've send in complaints to Samsung and all I &nbsp;Ebert get back is form letters.&nbsp;</P>Mon, 02 Oct 2017 14:57:19 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/284014#M4206DpahneP2017-10-02T14:57:19ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/285229#M4207
I'm Wondering the same thing. That and how are they doing it and why??It's not like you win money! Oh and I could do with out the lady's crotch shot too .Tue, 03 Oct 2017 23:13:54 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/285229#M4207Cym2017-10-03T23:13:54ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/291325#M4208
<P>SAMSUNG - this is a valid question that needs to be formally addressed. What are you doing about this increasingly annoying and embarrassing issue?</P>Thu, 12 Oct 2017 00:32:52 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/291325#M4208Byob112017-10-12T00:32:52ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/307638#M4209
Definitely needs answersWed, 01 Nov 2017 19:09:35 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/307638#M4209tim4w52017-11-01T19:09:35ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/308642#M4210
<P>I know its an honor system and its not REALLY hurting anyone but I would still think it better to police this a little.&nbsp; The November 2017 challenge has been going on for less then two day and there are participants posting 300,000 steps.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P><P>Does not take much work on a calculator to see that this does not add up.</P>Thu, 02 Nov 2017 16:40:40 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/308642#M4210stojozano2017-11-02T16:40:40ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/313484#M4211
<P><span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-center" image-alt="Screenshot_20171107-182950.png" style="width: 486px;"><img src="https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/12556iE2B73F8A45A42AC6/image-size/large?v=1.0&amp;px=999" title="Screenshot_20171107-182950.png" alt="Screenshot_20171107-182950.png" /></span></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;Someone please explain how on day 7 someone has 719189&nbsp; steps?&nbsp; &nbsp;Seriously, does anyone believe these people I&nbsp; the top 10 actually average 41-48miles per day...., 7 days in a row.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>They're cheating.... Or, they're cheating.&nbsp; &nbsp;If this is the way Samsung runs challenges... No accountability, I'll not be back for another challenge&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Tue, 07 Nov 2017 23:52:17 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/313484#M4211Graybeard512017-11-07T23:52:17ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/313485#M4212
<P>I also noted that 1800 have finished the challenge... Impossible to average in excess of 28500 steps per day.&nbsp; &nbsp;Obviously using more than one step counting device linked to health.&nbsp; &nbsp; Personally, I don't want to win by cheating.&nbsp; &nbsp;Of course, Samsung has never said what the winners get.&nbsp; &nbsp;All I have seen do far is when I reach a goal, I get an advertisement for tracking device&nbsp;</P>Wed, 08 Nov 2017 00:00:27 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/313485#M4212Graybeard512017-11-08T00:00:27ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/315197#M4213
<P>I am pretty sure that they are hacking it but in reality they are cheating themself. For me it gone positive side. In begining I just walked 3k to 4k steps a day. &nbsp;Regularly Parcipating in challanges and seeing those unreal figures makes me to push further and now I am walking 20k steps a day. It was hard in beginning but now I am enjoying it and I am happy now. I have no regrets for those crappy figures, because all I did really satisfied me.</P>Thu, 09 Nov 2017 15:56:22 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/315197#M4213pawankayth2017-11-09T15:56:22ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/315484#M4214
<P>Here is the official response from Samsung.&nbsp; &nbsp; Totally bs.&nbsp; &nbsp;How many people walk 10 hrs daily?&nbsp; &nbsp;I shall not join future Samsung challenges.&nbsp; &nbsp;Other sites monitor better.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>Thank you for contacting us. We appreciate the opportunity to assist you.<BR /><BR /></SPAN></P><P>From your inquiry we understand that you are worried about some steps inside the new challenge in Samsung Health.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>We kindly inform you that, from our experience, it is possible walk up to 60,000 steps in 10 hours at a normal walking speed. If you speed it up, 100,000 steps is also possible.</P><P><BR />And if you worried about cheatting, Samsung Health team is well aware of possible cheating cases and already have prevention measures in place. We are also closely monitoring such situations that may have slipped under our radar, so please bear with us through this process.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>If you encounter any other unexpected situation or have more questions, please do not hesitate to contact us and our support team will assist you with all the necessary information.</P>Thu, 09 Nov 2017 21:17:10 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/315484#M4214Graybeard512017-11-09T21:17:10ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/317063#M4215
But I bet you didn't do that in one day like the cheaters do!Sat, 11 Nov 2017 17:16:05 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/317063#M4215Vulcanthunder2017-11-11T17:16:05ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/317065#M4216
<P>Even if they remove them the cheaters just come back the next month under a different tag.</P>Sat, 11 Nov 2017 17:19:01 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/317065#M4216Vulcanthunder2017-11-11T17:19:01ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/317165#M4217
<P>It would take very little code to build in an algorithm that would kick out above possible feats.&nbsp; For instance, I'm in a challenge on another site that limits exercise period to 4 hours, if u report above that the exercise is not counted towards the goal.&nbsp; &nbsp;For Samsung to base their response on 10 hours is preposterous.&nbsp; No one walks 10 hours a day at a brisk pace.&nbsp;</P>Sat, 11 Nov 2017 20:07:05 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/317165#M4217Graybeard512017-11-11T20:07:05ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/317188#M4218
It would not be hard to code parameters into the algorithm to boot impossible numbers. For Samsung to suggest it's possible to do 100000 steps in a day is ludicrousSat, 11 Nov 2017 20:31:16 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/317188#M4218Graybeard512017-11-11T20:31:16ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/335375#M4219
<P>And the same thing is happening this month... December literally just started 30mins ago (writing from Germany) and some people have 100 000 steps already... That's just so annoying, not only that it's unfair.&nbsp;</P>Thu, 30 Nov 2017 23:31:33 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/335375#M4219pumpum532017-11-30T23:31:33ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/335383#M4220
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="394061"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><P>And the same thing is happening this month... December literally just started 30mins ago (writing from Germany) and some people have 100 000 steps already... That's just so annoying, not only that it's unfair.&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hi pumpum53,&nbsp;</P><P>I agree,&nbsp; in November there are people with over 2 million steps which equates to over 1136miles.... I agree it's annoying and unfair... But Samsung seems to think a person can do 10 hours of exercise a day.&nbsp; &nbsp;They actually suggested I pick up my pace.&nbsp; &nbsp; I'm 66 year old and proud of the steps I have taken legally.&nbsp; &nbsp;The cheaters win no more than we do except a position on a list.&nbsp; &nbsp; At least I can prove my distance daily&nbsp;</P>Thu, 30 Nov 2017 23:42:35 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/335383#M4220Graybeard512017-11-30T23:42:35ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/335522#M4221
The challenge started a few hours ago and the leader already has over 150k steps. How does Samsung explain that?Fri, 01 Dec 2017 08:38:43 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/335522#M4221Avit2017-12-01T08:38:43ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/335752#M4222
<P>I agree. In the November 2017 global challenge the runner up Higgs-field bouncer must have walked about 12hours per day at a speed of about over 6kms per hour for an average.&nbsp; Come on cheats that's disgusting. Get out of the competition if you can't be honest!!!!!&nbsp;</P>Fri, 01 Dec 2017 11:36:20 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/335752#M4222GMackle2017-12-01T11:36:20ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/335772#M4223
If an average step is .75m then Samsung thinks 60000 steps which equates to 45km in 10 hours maybe it's possible but extremely unlikely surely. 10 hours walking per day for a month!! RubbishFri, 01 Dec 2017 11:25:24 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/335772#M4223GMackle2017-12-01T11:25:24ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/335955#M4224
<P>I filed another letter with samsung complaining of the poor way they monitored the challenge.&nbsp; I'll post their poor response when I get one.&nbsp;</P>Fri, 01 Dec 2017 13:37:55 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/335955#M4224Graybeard512017-12-01T13:37:55ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/335974#M4225
The cheaters are fat lazy slobs who sit in front of the TV all day while their watch is tied to a fan.Fri, 01 Dec 2017 13:53:44 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/335974#M4225Vulcanthunder2017-12-01T13:53:44ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/335993#M4226
<P>We have to blige Samsung to ban them let's do something all together.</P><P>People stop complaining fight !!!!!!!</P>Fri, 01 Dec 2017 14:08:00 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/335993#M4226Drejuju2017-12-01T14:08:00ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/336237#M4227
<P><SPAN>Thank you for contacting us. We appreciate the opportunity to assist you.<BR /><BR /></SPAN></P><P>I understand from your inquiry that you would like to know what will happen with persons that are cheating in the monthly Samsung Health challenges.</P><P><BR />We are very grateful that you use our services every day and we are happy that you are living a healthy life which you can follow through our application.</P><P><BR />We are really sorry for the inconvenience. Samsung strives to deliver great content experiences on Galaxy mobile devices, and we’re constantly striving to make those experiences unique and enriching for our consumers.</P><P><BR />We are currently focusing all our resources and energy into developing new content and services that will answer the needs of our customers from all over the world.</P><P><BR />Our goal is to continuously improve our products and services and that is why, your feedback and suggestions are very important.</P><P><BR />Please note that we are aware of certain customers being able to finish challenges sooner than possible for a normal or even extremely fit human being and we are really sorry for any inconveniences this can cause to you, we are sure they do not feel any sense of accomplishment.</P><P><BR />Although we are making everything possible to control these situations and to eliminate any possibilities of cheating, currently we were only able to significantly reduce the number of similar situations.</P><P><BR />Nevertheless, we would like to thank you for your suggestion, please know that we are continuously working to improve the Samsung customer experience, and we have taken your feedback into consideration.</P><P><BR />Our goal is to continuously improve our products and services and that is why, your feedback and suggestions are very important.</P><P><BR />We want to improve Samsung so it serves your needs and is the best product it can be. If you have any other suggestions you would like to share with our product team, please let us know.</P><P><BR />Your comments and requests are greatly appreciated. We appreciate you taking the time to share your ideas.</P><P><BR />Meanwhile, Samsung Content and Services Customer Support will always be available when you encounter various unexpected situations during the usage of our other supported services.</P><P><BR />Also, if you visit the Content &amp; Services customer support website, <A href="http://help.content.samsung.com" target="_blank">http://help.content.samsung.com</A>, you will be able to find all Samsung Content and Services we are supporting in your country.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN><BR />Thank you for using our services. Your satisfaction is very important to us.<BR /><BR />Kind regards,</SPAN></P>Fri, 01 Dec 2017 17:39:45 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/336237#M4227Graybeard512017-12-01T17:39:45ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/336256#M4228
<P>Samsung sent me the same form letter that they sent Graybeard51 and others.&nbsp;</P>Fri, 01 Dec 2017 18:00:02 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/336256#M4228Vulcanthunder2017-12-01T18:00:02ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/336715#M4229
Interesting 24hours in and 9 have already finished. Simply impossibleSat, 02 Dec 2017 12:36:31 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/336715#M4229Graybeard512017-12-02T12:36:31ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/336857#M4230
<P>That's mean cheating is accepted so for me this app shoul be banned from stores</P>Sat, 02 Dec 2017 15:10:28 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/336857#M4230LongBoardtrader2017-12-02T15:10:28ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/337911#M4231
<P>This is on the 3rd day and there are people who have more than 300.000 steps</P><P>This first one has 411.000 steps which mean that he is doing more than 6.000 steps every hour if he is not sleeping at all for the last 70 hours.</P><P>Really this must stop and Samsung must step up its game and remove immediately anyone who is doing these numbers. It spoils the game for all of us who are actually try to exercise more and make more steps.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="December Challenge" style="width: 316px;"><img src="https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/14649i7F3ACD27BDDB869D/image-size/medium?v=1.0&amp;px=400" title="SmartSelectImage_2017-12-03-22-52-57.jpg" alt="December Challenge" /><span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();">December Challenge</span></span></P>Sun, 03 Dec 2017 21:02:39 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/337911#M4231Panos2017-12-03T21:02:39ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/337941#M4232
<P>You will get a form letter. I don't think they even read our mail in its entirety- they seek words and pick a letter to send...</P>Sun, 03 Dec 2017 21:44:19 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/337941#M4232LaurieC642017-12-03T21:44:19ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/346423#M4233
<P><span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-center" image-alt="More cheaters" style="width: 486px;"><img src="https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/15339iBA4FB5C0B7EBA8BD/image-size/large?v=1.0&amp;px=999" title="Screenshot_20171212-145021.png" alt="More cheaters" /><span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();">More cheaters</span></span></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I challenge the leader to show proof of walking approx. 58 miles per day for twelve days straight.&nbsp; These people have to either be hacking the system or carrying multiple measuring devices.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P>Tue, 12 Dec 2017 19:54:40 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/346423#M4233Graybeard512017-12-12T19:54:40ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/350395#M4234
<P>Well, we have 86400 seconds in one day (24 hrs). Number of steps can't be beyond that if we take average of 1 step/ second. Samsung can ban users doing 80000 step day or more than 210000 steps in three consecetive days ( is very easy!) . I'm monitoring closely....there are less than 200 of them need to be deleted.&nbsp;</P>Sat, 16 Dec 2017 17:50:10 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/350395#M4234Sabet2017-12-16T17:50:10ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/350432#M4235
<P><span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-center" image-alt="Screenshot_20171216-143240.jpg" style="width: 984px;"><img src="https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/15678i3D7B145AA74161B7/image-size/large?v=1.0&amp;px=999" title="Screenshot_20171216-143240.jpg" alt="Screenshot_20171216-143240.jpg" /></span></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Obviously Samsung has no one who can write code to detect the problem.&nbsp; For instance, according to their site I am in the top 2% of all Samsung health users, yet in the challenge I am not even in the top 30%&nbsp; &nbsp;it is physically impossible for anyone to achieve the number of steps the leaders are reporting.&nbsp;</P>Sat, 16 Dec 2017 19:38:47 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/350432#M4235Graybeard512017-12-16T19:38:47ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/350445#M4236
<P>Either Samsung can't (or won't) write simple code to exclude the cheaters or more likely they are so afraid of offending a few dozen cheaters they risk offending 10s of thousands of honest walkers.</P>Sat, 16 Dec 2017 20:05:12 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/350445#M4236Vulcanthunder2017-12-16T20:05:12ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/351900#M4237
<P>You wall 7-10 miles a day I'm guessing your a postal worker, I walk the same so I know these people aren' walkong 2 mil</P>Mon, 18 Dec 2017 12:57:39 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/351900#M4237Mufasa20082017-12-18T12:57:39ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/351903#M4238
You walk that 5 days, I'm guessing your a postal worker, I am, and that's what I walk about 9.5 miles a day and yeah 2 mil on a day it's ridiculous.Mon, 18 Dec 2017 12:59:41 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/351903#M4238Mufasa20082017-12-18T12:59:41ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/351928#M4239
<P>Leaders are doing 100,000 to 170,000 steps a day which is 50 to 80 miles everyday. is no fun to watch them doing this for past 6 month and samsung is not taking actions....</P>Mon, 18 Dec 2017 13:16:49 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/351928#M4239Sabet2017-12-18T13:16:49ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/351989#M4240
<P>No, I'm retired and do this to get fit.&nbsp; My knees won't take running but walking is good.&nbsp; &nbsp;I've lost a little over 15# in 58 days and feel great.&nbsp; 15# more and I will reach goal&nbsp;</P>Mon, 18 Dec 2017 14:12:59 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/351989#M4240Graybeard512017-12-18T14:12:59ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/364480#M4241
<P>Yeah I also have called them and it's apparent they ain't going to do anything about it. I mean it's simple write code where you figure how fast Usain Bolt does the 100 metre dash multiply that by let's say 8 hours, if any one does more than that ban them!!! ***** not that hard!!! I mean that is very unrealistic but then they can't say bs like people can do this much or that much!&nbsp;</P>Sat, 30 Dec 2017 03:27:31 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/364480#M4241Renier2017-12-30T03:27:31ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/366537#M4242
It's still happening. This month's Igloo challenge started a day ago and the leader already has 180k+ steps. Of the 200k goal. I don't even know man.Mon, 01 Jan 2018 18:40:40 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/366537#M4242Adarsh31252018-01-01T18:40:40ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/366566#M4243
<P>Apparently, Samsung has no one capable of writing code to block these cheaters.&nbsp; I calculated the winner of the December challenge averaged approximately&nbsp;</P><P>56.4151576246 miles per day each and every day of December.&nbsp; &nbsp;It does not take a health genius to realize this is an impossibility.</P><P>But, the best thing to do is to set your goals and achieve them.&nbsp; Then feel sorry for those who apparently have so low a self esteem that they must cheat at a contest with no prize.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P><P>Good luck to you in your quest for fitness.&nbsp;</P>Mon, 01 Jan 2018 19:40:37 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/366566#M4243Graybeard512018-01-01T19:40:37ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/369815#M4244
Samsung are to pathetic to care or try to stop the cheating, or maybe it ties in with their corporate philosophy? Beyond words reallyThu, 04 Jan 2018 07:33:01 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/369815#M4244fizza2018-01-04T07:33:01ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/395494#M4245
<P>I hate that I am being screwed over by the cheaters on the Samsung fitness app</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Sat, 27 Jan 2018 18:44:27 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/395494#M4245CyberDio2018-01-27T18:44:27ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/395508#M4246
<P>It's amazing to me that Samsung claims to be interested in promoting fitness and has a good app in Shealth but they appapparen have no one who can wrwri a simple code to discourage the cheating in the challenge&nbsp; &nbsp; Under Armour seems to be more technology advanced than Samsung.</P>Sat, 27 Jan 2018 19:03:18 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/395508#M4246Graybeard512018-01-27T19:03:18ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/400130#M4247
<P><span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-center" image-alt="Screenshot_20180201-074004.png" style="width: 486px;"><img src="https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/19248iC68D74FD8DB4598D/image-size/large?v=1.0&amp;px=999" title="Screenshot_20180201-074004.png" alt="Screenshot_20180201-074004.png" /></span></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>there we go, again and again....it's so sad</P>Thu, 01 Feb 2018 06:45:02 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/400130#M4247EvilMonkey2018-02-01T06:45:02ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/400160#M4248
<P>Yep soooo very sad, the guy leading at 11am eastern australian time had already walked 96 km....... not bad for 11 or so hours and of course a complete lie</P>Thu, 01 Feb 2018 07:49:18 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/400160#M4248fizza2018-02-01T07:49:18ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/400187#M4249
<P>Today is the first day of the Global Challange for Feb. I just checked the rankings and one chap Mehmet Turkeyy already has, as of today 170000 steps. Hats off to him...he's really a funny guy</P>Thu, 01 Feb 2018 08:22:57 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/400187#M4249ss72018-02-01T08:22:57ZRe: Health Together Challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/400249#M4319
Yeah I agree, it's the 1st Feb today 9:00 in the morning and the guy who's in first place has already done 169,000 steps. That's 18,777 steps per hour assuming he got up at midnight and got his trainers on ! Yeah right !Thu, 01 Feb 2018 09:17:14 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/400249#M4319Kev552018-02-01T09:17:14ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/400386#M4250
Exactly, that guy walked around 150 km on the first day, and he doesn't look sportive to me at all! Funny indeed..Thu, 01 Feb 2018 11:14:21 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/400386#M4250kosmic2018-02-01T11:14:21ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/400761#M4251
<P>Seems like the #1 guy disappeared, probably not by Samsung's doing though since there still is a bunch of other people on 100-150k</P>Thu, 01 Feb 2018 14:33:26 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/400761#M4251MattiasJ2018-02-01T14:33:26ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/400805#M4252
<P>Samsung challenges are a joke.&nbsp; There is no way these people actually walk these distances.&nbsp; &nbsp;My guess is they either have multiple step counters feeding the app.&nbsp; Or they attach their phone to a paint mixer.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Either way, Samsung should have the technology to counteract obvious cheating.&nbsp; &nbsp;Under Armour does a much better job of running a challenge&nbsp;</P>Thu, 01 Feb 2018 14:54:53 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/400805#M4252Graybeard512018-02-01T14:54:53ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/400811#M4253
<P>But,&nbsp; at least so far, Samsung is not slowing our phones to boost sales as Apple did</P>Thu, 01 Feb 2018 14:56:39 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/400811#M4253Graybeard512018-02-01T14:56:39ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/401438#M4254
<P>For the challene that is now taking place I cannot see an cheating going on.</P><P>I mean, the first player has done 242 460 steps since the start, almost 4 days ago, that's 242 460 ÷ 3,5 (days) =&nbsp;69.274 steps/day. That's not too much. I usually take from 8000 to 12000 steps a day and I'm a sedentary which take a walk only to get to school 1km away from home..</P>Fri, 02 Feb 2018 05:28:16 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/401438#M4254Pyrux2018-02-02T05:28:16ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/401443#M4255
<P>There are some types of job that just require to walk, think about mountain guides or just a common runner..</P><P>Bytheway, my Samsung Health app displays record in steps not in km or miles, how do you obtain those distances you are talking about?</P>Fri, 02 Feb 2018 05:33:57 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/401443#M4255Pyrux2018-02-02T05:33:57ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/401452#M4256
<P>What are you talking about Pyrux? The challenge started yesterday. The top 10 made 210.000-240.000 steps in 24h. Thats around 10.000 steps per hour, which equals 7-8km/h.</P>Fri, 02 Feb 2018 06:56:17 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/401452#M4256EvilMonkey2018-02-02T06:56:17ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/401454#M4257
Plus: Most of them started with 200.000 within 1 hour <img id="winking-face" class="emoticon emoticon-winking-face" src="https://eu.community.samsung.com/html/images/smilies/2.winking-face_1f609.png" alt="" title="" />Fri, 02 Feb 2018 06:59:35 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/401454#M4257EvilMonkey2018-02-02T06:59:35ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/401495#M4258
<P>Sorry, I was pretending to calculate the days passed by subtracting the days remaining by the standard number of days in a month, 30 days, but in fact February has 28 day, not 30.</P><P>So the calculation is 28-26=2, 2 days passed since the start of the Spa challenge.</P><P>My fault.</P>Fri, 02 Feb 2018 10:02:13 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/401495#M4258Pyrux2018-02-02T10:02:13ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402498#M4259
It just chaps my behind that I can't hit the top 30% like I have done in the past, as the cheaters have a kazillion steps, thus setting the 30% threshold higher.....Fri, 02 Feb 2018 21:11:48 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402498#M4259LaurieC642018-02-02T21:11:48ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402531#M4260
<P>I understand the fact that there are a lot, a lot, of cheaters that just ruin the challenge for the first 1% places &nbsp;and first places on podium, but in fact, cheaters are probably 0,0001% of the total runners who were 1 178 027 in numbers on January...</P><P>I could easly place myself in the first 30% of the total runners only by walking back and forth to school 335 934 steps in 30 days on January.&nbsp;</P><P>That low number of cheaters does not unbalance the whole worldwide percentage.</P>Fri, 02 Feb 2018 22:09:19 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402531#M4260Pyrux2018-02-02T22:09:19ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402541#M4261
That's not the point Pyrux. The cheating ruins the sport. The idea of any contest, whether it be sport or academic is to do your best compared to the best. But when the "best" is a manufactured number that is obviously not attainable it negates the contest. You honestly believe the winner walked or ran in excess of 1800 miles in January. If so I'd like to sell you a building in Dubai. It's really tall... Just like the story the winners are trying to tell us.<BR />Fri, 02 Feb 2018 22:21:35 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402541#M4261Graybeard512018-02-02T22:21:35ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402544#M4262
<P>I totally agree with the fact that cheating just ruins every game and every challenge, sport included.</P><P>I was just saying that is useless to compare ourselves to the top ones, even if they weren't cheaters.</P><P>The samsung Health app and challenges are made to encourage people walk, breath fresh air, look around their normal day-life environment and maybe meet new healty support people.</P><P>It's an app that helps us to track our physical activities, our diet and our psychophysical status.&nbsp;</P><P>Compare our steps and our improvements with friends and the percentage of the worldwide users is a more useful way to see the challenges..</P><P>Btw, that's all about my opinion.</P>Fri, 02 Feb 2018 22:46:50 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402544#M4262Pyrux2018-02-02T22:46:50ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402549#M4263
<P>The fact is though, we never see the results except the top 10 ( pretty much all cheats) and those near us.&nbsp; &nbsp;It's impossimpo to compare yourself against the competition when the referee wont call a foul.&nbsp; &nbsp;In November and December I was in the top 5 percent&nbsp; &nbsp; Where would I have placed sans cheaters&nbsp;&nbsp;</P>Fri, 02 Feb 2018 22:40:57 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402549#M4263Graybeard512018-02-02T22:40:57ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402556#M4264
<P>Did you accomplished the same amount of steps of January on November and on December?&nbsp;</P><P>If you walked the same distances in the 3 months and if, on November and on December, there were less cheaters, that would mean that cheaters do not only change the podium but also change the percentage positioning.</P><P>But probably it wouldn't, as the percentage, as I understood, is calculated on the steps of every runner not on the top and lowest steps of the whole comunity..</P>Fri, 02 Feb 2018 22:54:25 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402556#M4264Pyrux2018-02-02T22:54:25ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402563#M4265
<P>While I appreciate you trying (unsuccessfully ) to defend Samsung ... The FACT is the challenge is tainted by numbers that are impossible for anyone to accomplish.&nbsp; &nbsp;I sincerely doubt Olympic athletes are engaging in the Samsung global challenge.&nbsp; &nbsp;To assert anyone averages in excess of 60 miles per day is preposterous&nbsp; &nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Samsung, in their form letter response to a complaint will tell you to walk more lol&nbsp;</P>Fri, 02 Feb 2018 23:04:58 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402563#M4265Graybeard512018-02-02T23:04:58ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402574#M4266
<P>I'm not defending Samsung, I'm not kind of fanboy with gears and other stuff or that kind of pseudo-health fanatic.&nbsp;</P><P>I'm just defending my idea that comparing yourself to the first players, those fist 10 runners, is just useless for the main purpose of an health lifestyle.. I have been a swimmer, besides other sports, for 10 years, a true athlete for 4 years and I'm now turning 19, I know which is the real meaning of sport and healty lifestyle.</P><P>Bytheway, the amount of steps from the top runners is just inhumane but as I told before there are some jobs that require constant walking activity, it's not the case of our cheaters but also normal-looking people could achieve amazing distances..</P>Fri, 02 Feb 2018 23:12:43 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402574#M4266Pyrux2018-02-02T23:12:43ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402578#M4267
<P>I'm glad u are athletic at the tender age of 19&nbsp; .&nbsp; But, as u mature to my age of, 66 and still walking in excess of 400000 legal steps per month u will come to understand the aggravation of being placed in a lower position because of obvious cheating</P>Fri, 02 Feb 2018 23:26:09 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402578#M4267Graybeard512018-02-02T23:26:09ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402584#M4268
<P>I come to understand what you were trying to say, that's really good amount of steps from a 66yo man/woman, hope not be impolite..</P>Fri, 02 Feb 2018 23:34:36 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402584#M4268Pyrux2018-02-02T23:34:36ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402588#M4269
<P>Comparing my progress to the top legit players' is pretty much the only thing I find interesting with the monthly challenge. Even though I most likely wouldn't be able to compete with them I'd still like to see where I stand in comparison. What bugs me the most is that there is no reason to cheat since there is no reward but ruining the fun for others.&nbsp;</P>Fri, 02 Feb 2018 23:44:20 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402588#M4269MattiasJ2018-02-02T23:44:20ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402594#M4270
Not at all... I only wish I had started fitness at your age. I encourage you to keep it up.Sat, 03 Feb 2018 00:09:52 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402594#M4270Graybeard512018-02-03T00:09:52ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402597#M4271
Exactly... I made the same point quite some time ago... The "winner" gets a attaboy crown on his/her avatar... But knows they won nothing... I, although only in the top 5 percent win good health and off blood pressure medication.. The ability to ride my bicycle in the summer and walk in the winter... So I consider myself the winner in the long runSat, 03 Feb 2018 00:13:43 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402597#M4271Graybeard512018-02-03T00:13:43ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402610#M4272
One other point Pyrux,, when u compete with whom do you compare yourself... The top ten or the middle 50??? Being a competitor I aim for the top . But this challenge is like a hight school wrestler going against a WWE wrestler... The fix is in before the bell ringsSat, 03 Feb 2018 04:02:46 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402610#M4272Graybeard512018-02-03T04:02:46ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402612#M4273
<P>The only thing we can do it report the top 10. Click on their picture and at the top right there's options to report. Incredible to see that day 2 of the challenge and they're over 200k. From day one they didn't even show steps for the day but they had a high count.I do my best to run 5mi/day plus walking around and I'm doing 12-15k steps per day.</P>Sat, 03 Feb 2018 05:29:19 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/402612#M4273JC_Cali2018-02-03T05:29:19ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/403256#M4274
Basic math. And Google how many steps in a mile average.Sat, 03 Feb 2018 22:07:07 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/403256#M4274Cym2018-02-03T22:07:07ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/404174#M4275
It gets even better than that. There are 86400sec in a 24h period. Now if you check the top guy for today, goes by the name of David, who appears to have done 170944 steps as a top step count. And is already on 75000 steps for the day. Since the challenge started he has over half a million steps. We need to get this guy on TED-X, as he has found a way to incorporate eating and sleeping and removing waste whilst maintaining a healthy 1 step per second for every second of every day for the last 5 days. Inspiring don't you think. Personally I think we should show our support to these top athletes, who are paving the way for future generations of sportspeople, who's new doctrine will be "it doesn't matter how you win as long as you win". And for the rest of you, suck it up, you're grit, attitude, and sense of fair play holds no ground in this new world.<BR /><BR />Here's what I suggest, we boycott the challenge and create a friends list with all us moaning minis (non cheaters) until samsung deals with the issue.Mon, 05 Feb 2018 10:11:51 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/404174#M4275ss72018-02-05T10:11:51ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/440863#M4276
The fact that it can even be registered means it's being allowed.Mon, 12 Mar 2018 05:59:09 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/440863#M4276ScarlettKitsune2018-03-12T05:59:09ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/440877#M4277
<P>I think mailing the developers of the application might help.They are implementing many changes to US version, they might sure to include some limits on per day basis.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Try giving suggestions here</P><P><A href="https://help.content.samsung.com/csweb/ticket/createQuestionTicket.do" target="_blank">https://help.content.samsung.com/csweb/ticket/createQuestionTicket.do</A></P>Mon, 12 Mar 2018 19:18:01 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/440877#M4277SavvyPrivateer2018-03-12T19:18:01ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/444133#M4278
<P>For the first time since I started participating, I got into the top 5% in February.&nbsp; I did close to 125 miles in that month.&nbsp; My son and I are on a health kick.&nbsp; I have been walking 2-5 miles a day.&nbsp; I hate that top spot, the more steps they cheat with the harder it is on us.&nbsp;</P>Wed, 14 Mar 2018 02:33:26 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/444133#M4278LaurieC642018-03-14T02:33:26ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/445562#M4279
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="334335"></LI-USER>Well congratulations on you and your son ! That is an awesome accomplishment! And yes it is too bad you are not in the top 1%!&nbsp; &nbsp;Keep up the great work!&nbsp;<BR /><BR /><BR /><BR />wrote:<BR /><P>For the first time since I started participating, I got into the top 5% in February.&nbsp; I did close to 125 miles in that month.&nbsp; My son and I are on a health kick.&nbsp; I have been walking 2-5 miles a day.&nbsp; I hate that top spot, the more steps they cheat with the harder it is on us.&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 14 Mar 2018 23:55:38 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/445562#M4279Cym2018-03-14T23:55:38ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/448374#M4280
I AGREE so much with you!! I HATE cheaters and I strongly advice Samsung to BLOCK the cheaters account so that serious contestants can get motivated and inspired to get up from their couch and loose their extra pounds living a healthier life to bring more joy to their family and kids! So PLEASE ban all cheaters with immediate effect!!Fri, 16 Mar 2018 16:24:33 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/448374#M4280EinStein_Norway2018-03-16T16:24:33ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/448401#M4281
<P>Thank you !&nbsp; He is down almost 20 pound I am so excited for him!&nbsp; It is so much easier to diet with someone than alone.&nbsp; He eliminated cokes and daily drive thrus for burgers.&nbsp; We are having fun trying new healthy foods like cauliflower mash is one of my new favs !!</P>Fri, 16 Mar 2018 16:37:44 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/448401#M4281LaurieC642018-03-16T16:37:44ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/448852#M4282
I have done exactly that on several occasions and I am sorry to report that you will receive a poor translation of a letter from someone (or a computer that responds to key words) in Samsung corporate officesFri, 16 Mar 2018 23:08:56 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/448852#M4282Graybeard512018-03-16T23:08:56ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/448855#M4283
Unfortunately, this is a world wide contest and Samsung has no interest in making it fair... Underarmour and other companies are aware of how to write code to detect cheating, but Samsung gives it lip service. No one is capable of walking 200000 steps the first day of every month.Fri, 16 Mar 2018 23:12:22 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/448855#M4283Graybeard512018-03-16T23:12:22ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/448857#M4284
Do like I do... Compete with people who are close to you in the standings... Just last week I was challenged to a 50,000 step contest by someone who I had competed with before. I dropped out of the the challenge and conceded the win because I realized that my phone had counted steps while I was riding my bicycle. I'm sure I could have won without those steps... But I don't cheat...Fri, 16 Mar 2018 23:16:49 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/448857#M4284Graybeard512018-03-16T23:16:49ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/454183#M4285
<P>Well considering it's hard just to do 1 million steps in a month (500 miles roughly) then being able to do 2 or 3 million in a week is not humanly possible.&nbsp;</P>Tue, 20 Mar 2018 15:42:14 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/454183#M4285Canuck2018-03-20T15:42:14ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/466973#M4286
Still the same leaders. Less i know now all cheatsThu, 29 Mar 2018 03:31:13 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/466973#M4286David40002018-03-29T03:31:13ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/470749#M4287
<P>I take my hat off to Mr Boki. At least 60 miles a day for the last few months. Well done. He must be really tired by now. Sad man.</P>Sat, 31 Mar 2018 20:55:14 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/470749#M4287Tony1852018-03-31T20:55:14ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/471481#M4288
Nah, I'm sure David, this months number 1 in one day has no trouble running approximately 130 miles....Sun, 01 Apr 2018 19:04:12 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/471481#M4288Uniqhorn2018-04-01T19:04:12ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/471492#M4289
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="719005"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR />Still the same leaders. Less i know now all cheats<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Only made top 12% 😕&nbsp; freaking cheaters....top has 3 million steps 🤔&nbsp;</P>Sun, 01 Apr 2018 19:29:57 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/471492#M4289LaurieC642018-04-01T19:29:57ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/471493#M4290
<P>3 million steps....wow!</P>Sun, 01 Apr 2018 19:30:48 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/471493#M4290LaurieC642018-04-01T19:30:48ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/471496#M4291
<P>Nike run club has cheaters also. I'll have to check out under armour&nbsp;</P>Sun, 01 Apr 2018 19:31:56 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/471496#M4291LaurieC642018-04-01T19:31:56ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/471521#M4292
<P>Underarmour runs good challenges , but not as frequently&nbsp; &nbsp;</P>Sun, 01 Apr 2018 20:06:42 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/471521#M4292Graybeard512018-04-01T20:06:42ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/471543#M4293
I do honest steps up to 14000 on a 9k walk i do every second day and i see the same some people are doing 150 000 step on day one and same again..wow MUST be walking in their sleep as well.<BR /><BR />Thanks to the community i know now most are cheats and why are they allow to carry on and not get kicked out and have the ones who are out there walking and make a family of us together and have walkers and not cheats.Sun, 01 Apr 2018 20:35:17 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/471543#M4293David40002018-04-01T20:35:17ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/471576#M4294
<P>I wonder what shoes they wear that lasts for 150k+ steps a day for a month straight without being worn out 😅 I mean with their amount of steps there really isn't enough time to buy new ones either.</P>Sun, 01 Apr 2018 22:00:04 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/471576#M4294MattiasJ2018-04-01T22:00:04ZRe: why do samsung allow cheating on samsunghealth challengeshttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/471588#M4295
<P>The Desert April Challenge just started today... That leader David already has 220k steps.. Impossible!!! Others in the 190k range... Straight up BS!!!</P>Sun, 01 Apr 2018 22:37:09 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/471588#M4295chubby222018-04-01T22:37:09ZHealth cheatershttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/472110#M4296
<P>How can some1 be on 280000 steps and it's only been 1 and a half days what's the point in doing it if every month there are loads of cheaters on there&nbsp;</P>Mon, 02 Apr 2018 14:30:24 GMThttps://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Wearables/why-do-samsung-allow-cheating-on-samsunghealth-challenges/m-p/472110#M4296Johnny7892018-04-02T14:30:24Z