Depends. I cannot take Winny. If I do, then I can barely walk because of the extreme pain in my joints. I hobble downstairs. I hate winny.

05-15-2014, 07:35 AM

SwoleZilla

they are two totally different things. take at the same time...

05-16-2014, 05:22 AM

rutman

clen or winstrol

A super clean diet with cardio is better than any drug..... I know that's not what you want to hear but it's a fact.

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05-20-2014, 12:19 PM

invoga

hi guys, i wanted some advice on clen

when the dosage reaches 60mcg, the best solution is to divide the dose 20mcg morning, 20mcg afternoon and 20mcg in the evening, or taking 60mcg , take in a unique assumption ?

05-20-2014, 12:26 PM

blergs.

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Originally Posted by invoga

which of the two is better for cutting?

its not that simple... but i would pick an aas over clen... would pick test + anavar or tbol.. IMO

05-20-2014, 01:08 PM

MI1972

Im trying some clen for the first time..looking to lose a couple of pounds and burn a little fat. I havent felt any side effects, and frankly, havent felt anything. I am dosing low did 30 mcg 2x day to see what my threshold is. Do you "feel" any different on clen? sweat? appetite? energy? other than the side effects..

05-20-2014, 02:39 PM

exerciseordie

Quote:

Originally Posted by MI1972

Im trying some clen for the first time..looking to lose a couple of pounds and burn a little fat. I havent felt any side effects, and frankly, havent felt anything. I am dosing low did 30 mcg 2x day to see what my threshold is. Do you "feel" any different on clen? sweat? appetite? energy? other than the side effects..

I feel drained and tired for the first few hours after my morning dose. I get jittery and feel kind of sick if I push up too fast. All usually pass by 5pm ish though

05-20-2014, 03:54 PM

MI1972

Quote:

Originally Posted by exerciseordie

I feel drained and tired for the first few hours after my morning dose. I get jittery and feel kind of sick if I push up too fast. All usually pass by 5pm ish though

What are you dosing?

05-21-2014, 08:21 AM

exerciseordie

Quote:

Originally Posted by MI1972

What are you dosing?

Always start at 40 and work up to 120

05-21-2014, 09:00 AM

Zeke34

Personally after several shoulder surgeries, I just can't tolerate the winny... Just dries out my joints way to much. Clean is nice but be careful starting off. Keep your mcg low the first few days to a week.. Rut an is right, clean you diet up first. Drop the breads and sugars.. I would prefer test/eq/Tren over the winny or the clen followed up with a clean diet... Just my $.02

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05-21-2014, 11:17 AM

MI1972

moved up to 40 mcg and got those jitters. Not good when you are in a meeting.. I could feel my hands shaking and when I was talking, my lips were flippin out... lol Guess that means it is working...

05-21-2014, 04:05 PM

the_predator

Quote:

Originally Posted by exerciseordie

I feel drained and tired for the first few hours after my morning dose. I get jittery and feel kind of sick if I push up too fast. All usually pass by 5pm ish though

^This right here

05-30-2014, 05:37 PM

sassy69

If it's a choice between the two:

Clen - make sure your diet is tight and consistent or its sort of a waste of time and quality sleep. Be sure you're supplementing w/ l-taurine to help manage cramps. And of course, don't take it after 3 pm so you can actually sleep.

Winny - if you're a guy, I'm betting you don't want to use it alone but rather stack w/ a test base. And plan to have your joints hurt like a bitch and potentially hair falling out. Understand how to cycle.