Idol Headlines for 02/11/12

The GRAMMY Pre-Telecast Ceremony comes into its own as a major stand-alone event – The annual GRAMMY Awards telecast is known as Music’s Biggest Night, but, in the hours leading up to the telecast, music enjoys a pretty big day as well. This year, approximately 70 of the 78 GRAMMY categories will be announced at the Pre-Telecast Ceremony on Feb. 12, with the final categories showcased on the CBS telecast. While there’s no denying the unique excitement that’s part of every GRAMMY broadcast, the Pre-Telecast has come into its own as a major stand-alone event with a distinctive character, an expanding audience, GRAMMY-style live performances, and, of course, no commercial interruptions. Those not lucky enough to be a nominee (or a close friend of a nominee) can still see the event streamed live online via GRAMMY Live, beginning at 1 p.m. PST. – Read more at Grammy.com

Tony Bennett rehearses duet with Carrie Underwood, reflects on first Grammy Awards – Indeed, Bennett will be celebrated for his own classic song, the 50-year-old hit “I Left My Heart in San Francisco,” in the City by the Bay next week. After running through their Grammy performance three times, Bennett told Underwood, “It was beautiful singing with you.” “She’s beautiful and she sings great and she’s so popular,” he said as he came off stage. “It’s just a wonderful experience to be on the show.” – Read more at Huffington Post

John Lloyd Young, Jason Ritter, Amy Smart, et al. Set for Celebration Theatre Benefit – Celebration Theatre will present a one night only benefit and readings in support of Celebration Theatre and its upcoming production of THE COLOR PURPLE. Scheduled to perform are John Lloyd Young (Jersey Boys), Nicholas Bishop, Matt Dallas, Keith David, Devon Gummersall, Sharon Lawrence, Peter Paige, Jason Ritter, Amy Smart Doug Spearman and from the cast of THE COLOR PURPLE – La Toya London (American Idol) & Cesili Williams! This One-Night Only Special Event will perform on Monday, February 13 at 8pm. – Read more at Broadway World

Trendwire Feb 10th w/ Adam Lambert, The Fray, and Taylor Armstrong

Adam Lambert Talks Past Grammy Fashion Faux Pas, Bruno Mars Collabo, Queen Rumors – Adam Lambert won’t be at the Grammys this year, as he’ll be out of town, but he swung by the Grammy rehearsals this weekend to check out all the action. And there, Yahoo! caught up with him to talk fashion faux pas (he seems to regret wearing a bolo tie to the 2010 Grammys) and his collaboration with Grammy darling Bruno Mars (the man who ironically beat him out for Best Male Pop Vocal Performance at last year’s Grammys). And yes, he addresses the gossip out there about his possible future collaborations with Queen, too: (Adam will be at tonight’s Clive Davis party, he’s working on a dance song with Bruno Mars, confirms he will sing with Queen this year) – See the Video at Yahoo.com

Backstage At The Grammys: We Chat To Adam Lambert, Wiz Khalifa, J Cole And More – We spoke to Adam Lambert, Wiz Khalifa, J Cole, Kat Graham from the Vampire Diaries, Weird Al and plenty more big names. Make sure you check them all out below! – Read more at Hot Hits

Clive Davis on seeing Jennifer Hudson’s “Dreamgirls” screen test: “That sold me” – In an emotional and revealing interview, this evening Jennifer Hudson joins “Piers Morgan Tonight,” offering an honest glimpse into her life and career. Now with a Golden Globe and Grammy to her name, Hudson shares the disappointment of coming up short on “American Idol”: “I just kept singing, even in my exit speech. I said ‘You know what? It’s something in store for me’,” she shares with Piers Morgan. “And two years later, I got ‘Dreamgirls’.” – See the Video at CNN

Lucy Hale Meets David Archuleta! – Lucy Hale and David Archuleta meet up at a Hollywood party in the Phillipines on Friday night (February 10). Courtesy of Ben Chan, the 22-year-old Pretty Little Liars actress is in Indonesia to promote the show and other things. – Read more at Just Jared

Behind-The-Scenes Grammy Blog #1 – On Wednesday as part of the GRAMMY Camp Media Team, I attended two GRAMMY Week events in Los Angeles, GRAMMY Camp – Basic Training in the morning, and GRAMMY in the Schools Live! in the evening. Jam was joined by “The Tonight Show with Jay Leno” music director Rickey Minor, singer/songwriter and “American Idol” contestant Didi Benami, and songwriter and producer Evan Bogart, among others. Several sessions featured unique participation by both panelists and students. One, which featured an array of music directors, producers, and instrumentalists, concluded with a rousing performance of singer/songwriter and “American Idol” contestant Lacey Brown’s hit “Let It Go.” Another on music production included a contest to find the most talented singer in the room. Lots of shouting and cheering ensued. – Read more at CambioDidi Benami, Lacey Brown, Ricky Minor

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I’ve been listening to interviews the last couple days and made some observations. Kris’ speaking voice sounds very much like his singing voice. Adam’s speaking voice is often higher pitched and his laugh, also, which goes along with his higher singing voice. Durbin’s speaking voice is similar to his singing voice. Scotty’s low speaking voice sounds like his singing voice. The exception is David A. He has this low raspy speaking voice and then his singing voice is higher and more pure. I wonder if it has to do with the paralyzed vocal chord? He also has several different sounds depending on how high or low he is singing. Love to have someone in the know explain all this to me.

Anonymous

I just heard the demo for Never Close Our Eyes by Bruno Mars (most likely on Adam’s album) and it’s really good. Like, really making me excited for the album, good.

Thirdtime, I think Paul is smart in following Nikki around to all her appearances. Lots of people get famous by following or even marrying famous people. It’s actually a good career move because it keeps your name and face out there. Don’t forget that Kim K started out as nothing more than Paris Hilton’s friend.

Anonymous

I heard it and I like it quite a bit. Adam says it is being produced by Dr Luke. So this is another song I am really excited about, really glad it is making the album.

GS61

I thought it was Kim K.’s sex tape that first made her famous? (Hope Paul doesn’t go that route. lol.)

Anonymous

Paul is playing a show here in L.A. on 2/21. I think (?) it is at The Music Box. (I should doublecheck that in case I decide to go – lol)

Anonymous

Eh. Paul is a newlywed. I think he’s working hard behind the scenes. He’s an indie guy, and he’s staying an indie guy. Mostly though, he seems incredibly happy and at peace. I’d say he’s doing well ;)

Anonymous

Haley is doing a gig on 2/21 for MyFM. Anyone know how to get tickets for that? (I should probably check the radio station’s website, huh)

Anonymous

Do we know if any other ex-Idols besides Adam are going to Clive Davis’ party tonight? I’m hoping Kris will, but I know he’s not going to the actual Grammys and he didn’t do any of the radio rounds as far as I can tell, so I have a feeling he won’t be there :( Any of the S10 kids going?

But the media would not be interested in Paul MacDonald if he wasn’t married to Nikki Reed. But they would still be interested in Nikki without Paul. So I can see where the Mr. Nikki Reed connotation comes into play.

Btw, you mean to say Lucy Hale is in the Philippines right now, where she met David Archuleta, not Indonesia.

Anonymous

Adam looks just wonderful in that Yahoo vid – appears so happy. Having a great guy by his side and loving his new album so much I’m sure are the big reasons for this. Good to see.

Anonymous

Yes – saw that (on another thread?) – it’s interesting how James has a number of talents – the impressions are really good.

Kitwana

Better Mr. Nikki Reid than Mr. Who??? The buzz he gets from being associated with her will open doors for him. Yeah, some may think less of him but I have to think that all the free publicity is on balance helpful to someone trying to break in. The difficulty with most former Idol contestants is that they seem to fall off the face of the earth after their season is over. Even regular coverage on Idol blogs can no longer be counted on because there are now so many former contestants competing for coverage. So if Paul can stay in the public eye through Nikki, he should do so.

Daytripper73

Pics of Diana and Ace from the MovieGuide awards and banquet, including a couple of cute candids backstage. They also performed.http://ow.ly/90OZV

(sorry if this posted twice. It looked like the blog ate my first attempt).

Journey1, I too have always wondered if David’ vocal paralysis had anything to do with his low raspy speaking voice. If his singing voice was indeed affected by the paralysis then it was a blessing in disguise for him. Sure like that voice. He can do so much with it. But this is my favorite sound from him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qY1ojVpxB4

Anonymous

Adam doing a song with Bruno Mars is HUGE. Like I always say, Bruno’s gonna rule the world.

Anonymous

While I understand everyones desire to hear new music and see their favorites perform and do well in the music industry, I think sometimes we forget that they are not music making machines but people who create musical art. I’m not just responding to thirdtimes comment here but also to all of the various discussions I’ve seen previously regarding how long they should or shouldn’t tour or take to make their next album. Any type of art is not created out of thin air but out of personal life experience or from observations of other peoples life experiences. I feel the time spent performing/touring or the time off spent out living life is all a part of feeding an artist so they can create new art. I don’t think you can put a time limit on it. Each artist is unique and some are very prolific and some take/need more time to come back around to creating fresh art. I hope that each is able to take the time they need to make sure that their new art is as good as they can do. Obviously the music industry and a musical career is a business too but I feel they are people first and have to do what they need to do as people also.

Great Adam interview! The Hothits link didn’t work for me though. He’s said enough times by now that he WILL be performing with Queen this year that I believe it’s safe to assume that is true! Yipppee!! Saw a vid somewhere where he confirmed the Bruno Mars song was in the works and probably WILL make the album! Lots of good, good, good, Adam news coming out in these interviews!

I strongly agree with Adam doing a song with Bruno Mars is HUGE, BM gonna rule the world, not so much. Go Adam!

David A.’s Vangie commercial is so cool. Really enjoying all the good stuff that’s coming from the Phils. He’s a late bloomer who is just starting to really come into his own. I think after the 2 years serving his mission that includes self-reliance and self-discovery, he will return a powerhouse.

I <3 James, he is a funny dude!

Anonymous

I <3 James, he is a funny dude!

I do, too, Goboy. His personality has really ‘come out’ since we first saw him on Idol last season. Who knew he had more than that voice! That’s what drew me in. We’re just beginning to see all the other things he can do!

I like Burno’s voice and his music. That said I don’t care who Adam duets with as long as it sounds good. Adam isn’t going to release something unless it sounds good to him also. So I’m pretty confident I’ll like what they are cooking up. I’m willing to wait a little longer for Adam to finish up and get it the way he wants because I trust his instincts and of course want him to make his music his way. BUT at some point (Adam I’m looking at YOU) you have to stop and let it go. Let the music and album sour out in to the real world and let us hear it. K? Thanks!

sagi

I just love listening to Adam interview! He seems so real and down to earth and articulates so well! He always sounds humble yet self assured. Really puts some perspective between Adam the man and Adam the performer. I have to say, I respect both sides tremendously! :)

larc

Saw a vid somewhere where he confirmed the Bruno Mars song was in the works and probably WILL make the album!

It’s only about 5½ weeks until Adam’s album is due to be released. Seems it should be finalized by now. All the graphics printing, pressings, packaging and distribution can’t be done overnight.

At this point I could care less if Adam’s album flops, I just want it in my hands lol.

Anonymous

Adam on multiple Grammy interviews yesterday started saying the album would be out “spring”, Maypril” “march/April”…. he no longer seems to be saying March 20th like he did a few weeks ago…so it’s starting to sound like they are going to take a little longer to finish so they can squeeze in this collab

Here’s a nice roundup of the majority of Adam pics/interviews from radio row yesterday for anyone who missed them. There are still a couple that we know happened that haven’t been posted by the radio stations though.

Ronnie D I’m just the opposite, as much as I want Adam’s album yesterday, if there are reasons anywhere from an exciting new collab to some type of strategy I’m happy to wait, I have a feeling Adam will entertain us in the meantime. Heck I’ve waited this long, I’m obviously not going anywhere LOL.

journey1.. Thanks for the video of David singing “Wherever You Are”. It just proves that wherever and whenever David sings , he is amazing. Every song sung by David is like a painting by a great artist. A masterpiece!

We have waited this long, another month will not be that difficult as long as we can have singles off this album. Trying to vote on Vh1, but won’t let me, says I’ve used up my votes for the day. Haven’t voted even once, so….

Anonymous

I suppose it’s perfectly fine for Mr. Reed to follow his “famous” new wife around, for all the reasons noted by others here, I get it, but it’s disappointing to not see Paul doing more on his own. Certainly being a newlywed doesn’t seem to have stopped his wife from promoting herself or her work, non-stop, ad nauseum, incessantly, since the wedding. And yes, he’s an Indy guy, but his Indy fans don’t really give a rats ass about red carpets, New York Fashion Week or any of the other celebrity silliness he’s immersed himself in since Idol. We care about the music…and right now, we’re just getting bored and indifferent. Maybe a compromise: all things in moderation, and that goes for leveraging your spouse’s celebrity to enhance your own career. Too much of that and it’s just unseemly.

I haven’t heard about any of the other idols going to Clive’s party but it is by invite only. I know Adam was there in 2/10 but don’t know if he was there in 2/11. They had some coverage before so I am hoping they show something on tv or online. In 2010 Jordan Sparks was there but she had some kind of connection with Clive. He is an interesting person. I saw a special on tv about his life last year.

Anonymous

They’re newlyweds so call me sentimental but I don’t think he’s following her around because it’s a smart career move – though it may be. He’s her husband. So why would they not be hanging together?

Anonymous

True, but I guess it’s because we never see pictures or articles with the two of them at things that are for him, it’s always her events. If we saw pictures of her at his shows or hanging out with other musicians it wouldn’t seem so one sided. The only music story I saw since Idol that made the news about him was when they wrote and recorded that song together. But I’m sure he’s very happy.

mmb

Adam was at Clives party last year too – Clive gave him a shout – out, called him a ” bright new star”

Anonymous

If Adam’s album is delayed, I wonder if that would mean another single. He hinted there might be one in a UK interview. I think two pre-drop singles would be great for album sales.

I haven’t heard about any of the other idols going to Clive’s party but it is by invite only.

I don’t assume that the only ones invited are the ones that show up. Some people accept every invitation that crosses their desk while others are less available.

Anonymous

yeah I know it’s invite only, but not of course everyone who is invited ends up going. I know both Kris & Adam were there in 2010. I think both Carrie & J-Hud have performed at this in the past. Can’t remember if any ex-Idols besides Adam were there last year.

Anonymous

Thanks. I couldn’t remember whether he was there or not in 2011.

Anonymous

I wonder who is busier than Adam in idol world…a handful at most I would say. Besides, it’s a great opportunity to connect with the important people in the industry. Like Adam always says, it’s work. Why any of the idols would say no to such event (assume that they got invited that is)

Anonymous

What we as fans need to understand is that these artists’ life don’t revolve around what we what. They have their own timetables.

When Paul is ready to release music, he will. Hopefully, fans will be around. And if not, then maybe Paul can make new fans.

Kitwana

Journey1 Thanks for the David Archuleta videos from that Closeup concert. You always seem to find them so quickly! I have to say that in the Wherever You Are and Nandito Ako videos, he was totally channelling old school Mariah, Celine and Whitney. I can see any of these 3 women singing these songs exactly like David did (although with more runs than David). I know that this kind of singing and these types of songs are not popular in 2012, especially when sung by a very young looking 21 year old guy, but I really like them. Hopefully he’ll record some songs like this before he leaves. Who knows, vocally driven pop with strong melodies may make a comeback while he’s gone.

Why would any of the idols say no to such event (assume that they got invited)?

I can think of several reasons right off the bat.

1. Some of them are shy and don’t like parties. 2. Some of them are not going to show up until they are part of the Grammy telecast. 3. Some of them hate Clive so much they don’t trust themselves in the same room and refuse to pander to the old bastard.

larc

If Adam’s album is delayed, I wonder if that would mean another single.

Whether or not it would, a delay in the album for other than a reason beyond the control of those involved would be highly unprofessional, IMO.

Anonymous

“I can think of several reasons right off the bat.

1. Some of them are shy and don’t like parties. 2. Some of them are not going to show up until they are part of the Grammy telecast. 3. Some of them hate Clive so much they don’t trust themselves in the same room and refuse to pander to the old bastard.”

Adam is working on a song collaborated with Bruno Mars,my guess is that once that one is done they will announce a release date. I will be patient,I know they have very good reason if it is delayed.

Anonymous

Then they shouldn’t be in show business then. Just join the seminary or the convent.Good looks and a good voice won’t go a long way without proper handling,networking and a good business sense…..

Anonymous

I’m not sure I understand your reasoning. IIRC Fever was a last minute addition to Adam’s first album and delayed that albums release. I think they are entirely with in their rights to delay the album if they are still working on the music. Lots of times in life you plan something for a certain time and then other things come up last minute that make you change your plans. That doesn’t mean you were lying when you made plans for the first date. Are there really that many fans who won’t buy the album release is delayed?

Oh that’s pretty cool that Adam’s been invited to Clive’s party every year since he was on Idol. :-)

Anonymous

Delaying the album (if that’s true) sounds like a very smart idea. BTIKM isn’t doing what a first single is supposed to. So they might be thinking about issuing single #2. And that will def delay the album.

Anonymous

Some entertaining tweets from Elliott Yamin about Carrie Underwood:

Karly @tweetheartforJD I never would guessed you were a country fan dude. Do you like Carrie Underwood?

@elliottyamin no,not at all…but i love real country singers/artists/songs

And then he got called out for it so tweets again:

For the record: i think carrie underwood is a great singer…and im happy 4 her success…just not that in2 her…is that alright people?…haha!

@elliottyamin @roxygrl812 i never said that at all…get chyo facts scrate shawtay..never said she “wasnt” anything…just said what i liked

Elliott Yamin @elliottyamin I said what i said, and i stick by it..said nothin wrong or disrespectful about carrie…& shes lucky 2 have fans like yall in her corner

He does have a right to his opinion. There are artists that you are not going to be into. But the first tweet with the “real country” blah blah is a bit unnecessary.

larc

3. Some of them hate Clive so much they don’t trust themselves in the same room and refuse to pander to the old bastard.

That might be the most valid reason to turn down an invitation. But there will be lots of people there who can help make or break careers. Missing out on such an opportunity would be unwise at best, IMO. Even beyond that, don’t show up for enough shindigs of this type that you’re lucky enough to get invited to and the invitations stop coming unless you’ve already succeeded to the point you don’t need them.

Mateja Praznik

Except that no one asks Idols that get signed by major labels right after Idol if they are ready to start working on their debuts right after Idol, in the middle of nationwide tour. They do it, put together mostly weak albums before the end of November. And then, fans and public are left with those debut albums for 2-3 years, waiting for new material?

IMO, Idols are not like normal new artists. They come off the show as TV personalities. They have publicity and name recognition, but to turn them into recording artists, the machine has to take advantage of their momentum and try to get them established. One or two singles that they usually get off their debut albums are just not enough. Rushing debut albums and then thinking “now we can take it easy, nice and slow and release the next album in 2 to 3 years” is just a bad idea.

But I don’t see how they could avoid rushing out debut albums for TOP 2 finishers. Season 10 TOP 2 were lucky, somehow Mercury managed to find enough strong material for both in a short time because they released in October. But, that might be just Nashville thing. So what happens when TOP 2 finishers aren’t country?

Anyways, since debut albums are rushed, label and management should think ahead and make sure new material gets ready so once the singles from debut albums are done, new material gets released. Do a re-release, EP or new album.

I’d go if invited to Clive’s party but that’s me! However, I really don’t think it’s going to make or break anyone’s career if they’re not there. I know Clive has artists perform at the party? Any idea who’s doing the entertaining this time?

Clive Davis is an Icon in the music industry, so one would be insane not to go to a party of his. Adam is well liked, and cameras seem to always be on him. It’s a good thing he is as FIERCE as he is. ;)

Anonymous

Yes, that’s what I meant. Sorry if it came off the other way.

ETA: I see where I went wrong. Oops. Yes, Clive first, Roc Nation second :)

Anonymous

*cough* troll!alert *cough*

Anonymous

Adam is smart to know how important networking is. It is true in just about any field, but the music business seems especially this way. Adam takes good advantage of these oportunities usually dressed in something that gives even more buz. I think it is one of the reason he is seen as a star and is given star gigs like the festival in Japan. Good job to this hard working idol alum.

Anonymous

Showing up at events is called publicity, promotion and networking. Not sure what the problem is with Adam attending this party or any other industry event…

It seems that it is problem with Adam only. For any other Idolette, attending Clive’s party is a privilege and honour.

Wait does anyone know for sure that other Idols are not in fact going? Apparently Carrie and JHud are performing? We only know about Adam going because Lyndsey asked him about his Grammy plans specifically, if she hadn’t I think most fans would have assumed he would be busy getting ready to take off for NYC next week and wasn’t going.

Some of the S10 peeps had Grammy related gigs this week or at least some interviews on radio row, their labels might have scored them an invite. And certainly other Idols have gone in the past. It might turn out to be a big ole Idolfest, you never know.

Some of them are not as thick skinned as Adam is. He would show up at the opening of a can of tuna if there were cameras present…….in reply to Ron Simpson…..You know this How?Have you tried?Humm…Din’t think so…Jealousy is so not good for your health..

Anonymous

Adam on multiple Grammy interviews yesterday started saying the album would be out “spring”, Maypril” “march/April”…. he no longer seems to be saying March 20th like he did a few weeks ago…so it’s starting to sound like they are going to take a little longer to finish so they can squeeze in this collab

Or maybe they are being cautious because of the early signs from BTIKM. I Know that Sony Nashville did it with Kellie, but it makes no sense to release an album without having a single to support it. I know that Adam’s fans have been saying that they can release a new single closer to the album’s release, but that’s not how it usually works. It will take the song a few months to saturate the airwaves, and RCA doesn’t want to be in the same position that they were in with David Cook. Even if Adam has more radio friendly songs on the album, it’s going to be hard for RCA to get PDs to add any of those songs, if the album is out of the Billboard to 200 within four or five weeks, and if the first single gets a lot of pre-album promo, but flops. One of the reasons why FYE’s didn’t hurt the album is because a lot of people didn’t seem to notice that it had been released.

Anonymous

It is these type of events (Clive’s party) that keeps you current and in the news. In the entertainment world there are so many people that are forgotten just because they are not networking or getting themselves seen at functions like this. Regardless on how anybody may feel about Clive it is the place to be before the Grammy’s. If it wasn’t, movie stars and other known people wouldn’t be going to it and I am sure after doing this for 37 years he has had many notable people attending.

A little of Clive’s background. He graduated from Harvard Law School, has 5 Grammy’s and was inducted in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 2000.

With the background he has in music and the connections he has, anybody would be a fool to turn down an opportunity like this if they were invited.

mmb

In the past all idols were with Sony. The s10 kids are with UMG/Interscope. Most Clive invites are current or forner Sony artists or celebrities in other areas. I’d be surprised if the S10 folks were there. But who knows. I’m sure Carrie and jHud are going, Kelly probably too ( although she and Clive… Maybe not lol). I don’t think Chris d is in town, is David cook around? I would have assumed kris would go.

fuzzywuzzy

So Adam is now saying that the release of Trespassing may be delayed to accommodate a collaboration with Bruno? I’m a bit confused. Didn’t Adam already collaborate with Bruno, or is this a different song?

fuzzywuzzy

Is Clive’s Grammy party being streamed live anywhere?

fuzzywuzzy

Is Clive’s Grammy party being streamed live anywhere?

Anonymous

I wonder who is busier than Adam in idol world…a handful at most I would say. Besides, it’s a great opportunity to connect with the important people in the industry. Like Adam always says, it’s work. Why would any of the idols say no to such event (assume that they got invited)?

I don’t even want to touch the discussion of who is and isn’t going to the party, because none of us is privy to the guest list, but come one, they are all busy. Every single one is working on their careers, and I would lay money that the ones who have gone the independent route are more busy than Adam.

Besides, attending the party is nice, but how many alums can top the number of times that Clive has had Fantasia and Jennifer perform at his party?

Anonymous

I doubt Kelly Clarkson will show at Clive’s party. They kind of hate each other (unless things have changed). ;)

Everybody has to promote them somehow. Some people go to industry parties where there are gonna be a lot of other artists. Some invite reporters to their wedding so they can get a mention in the tabloids.

Anonymous

Adam is no longer giving a specific date for the release of the album, and in some interviews has even said that it may come out in April. It is fan speculation that it is because he is collaborating on a song with Bruno Mars. Unless someone actually heard this, I think this just comes from Adam said that he wants to collaborate with someone in particular, and people are piecing that together with the fact that Bruno co-wrote one of the songs that might be on the album.

Anonymous

I get what you are saying and in a way it makes sense from a strictly business perspective. I think most would agree when the debut albums are rushed out the quality suffers. There are those idols who did not rush out a debut album. But how does a label make sure new material is ready when the artist isn’t emotionally/physically ready to create the new material (write material, interpret other songs, actually record the vocals, make choices)? They are people and people get tired. If they aren’t creating new material then they are back to doing covers or just singing songs other people have written and then the second album probably isn’t any better than the first. I think if an artist can get a second album out faster then they probably do it that way and the others work on their own schedule. I don’t think anyone delays their second album for no reason or because they think it’s good business, it’s just what it is.

Kitwana

It is not unusual for albums to be delayed to add songs that the label believes haves a better chance to be hits. A delay of a few months is nothing. Jesse McCartney released the single Shake in September 2010 and planned to release his CD in December 2010. When Shake did not make it as big as the label expected following Leavin, they delayed the album release. Jesse actually said at the time that they wanted to find better songs. The fact that Adam may now be working with Bruno Mars so late in the process means that he too may be looking for better songs too. Ultimately, that is a good thing. The only things to watch out for is to not wait too long. Jesse has yet to release his CD. Cost is also an issue. Big time writers and producers do not come cheap. Bruno may write you a hit, but he’ll cost you and put more pressure on you to achieve big sales to make up the costs. Accounting 101 says profit=revenue-expenses :)

I am glad that Idols get invited to such events to help promote their music. I heard Jenifer Hudson and Carrie are performing, hope it gets streamed.

Anonymous

I don’t see the song as a flop. Radio stations that did not play any of the FYE songs are now playing BTIKM and I think the video will help it along. His songs do take a little longer to move than say a Katy Perry song but it will do alright and I don’t think they had planned on it being a platinum seller. Just a way to reintroduce him back into radio. I don’t see the album out of the 200 in 4 or 5 weeks. The FYE album was on the charts for almost a year before it dropped and he only had two singles released from that, one platinum and one gold. This time around is different. A much bigger play in Europe is being seen and if the buzz is correct in the UK and other European countries it could be big there. If I am not mistaken, Gaga made it in the UK before she ever did anything in the US.

I believe the intention was all along to bring out a 2nd single before the album drops and with all the great promo that has been going on including good feedback from the radio stations definitely this time is different. I can’t wait to see everything unfold.

Anonymous

I don’t think they’re performing this year, are they? The Kinks, Alicia Keys, and Brandy and Monica are all slated to perform. They do often bringing people up to perform spontaneously.

fuzzywuzzy

Live streamed where? On the official Grammy site?

Anonymous

He’s a smart tuna yum yum yum

Dakota01

Adam never said his album was being delayed to accommodate a collaboration with Bruno. Apparently in some of the interviews with radio stations yesterday, he said “Mapril” (March/April) so it is being assumed that it is being delayed, but there has been no official announcement. He also said in another interview (can’t remember which one) that the Bruno song would be finished in the next week or two. That would still give them plenty of time to have the album ready for the March 20th release.

I do think that if in fact the album is being delayed, it has more to do with another collaboration and not the one with Bruno. Adam recently had his “fingers crossed” that a collaboration he was hoping for would come to fruition but wouldn’t divulge who it was with (again, I can’t remember which interview, but it was within the last week or two). If the album is delayed, I do believe it is for this new collaboration and not the one with Bruno.

Anonymous

It is fan speculation that it is because he is collaborating on a song with Bruno Mars.

While he didn’t specifically say the delay was b/c of this (he didn’t say there was a delay at all yet), Adam has definitely said he’s currently working on a track with Bruno that Dr. Luke is producing right now. It was in one of the Grammy interviews.

Anonymous

the only problem I could possibly see with pushing back the release date is that Adam’s doing all this heavy promo for the single and album now, and if the release is significantly delayed, that could — but not necessarily would — dilute the effect of the promo (especially if BTIKM isn’t a big hit and/or they don’t release a 2nd single prior to the cd release). Otherwise, I don’t see a problem with the release being delayed for a couple of weeks or even a month.

Anonymous

Tuna abroad like in Europe are specially yummy…

Anonymous

Is Carrie performing this year? I think she did last year. I don’t see her on the list this year. This story talks about a little about how invites are a hot commodity this year.

As far as idols from season 10, I don’t know. I think idols usually got an invite when the show was with Sony/RCA who Clive is affilliated with, don’t know now that AI is with Interscope.

Anonymous

I’ve completely lost track but I think it was in a UK or Sweden? interview that Adam was asked about duets and he said maybe, they were working on something and if it worked out we would be really excited. Then this recent Bruno talk made me think that in addition to what ever song they collaborated (co-wrote?) on already that there is a new song in the works that they may duet on. But it’s entirely possible that my mind is inferring too much or mistaken.

So Adam is now saying that the release of Trespassing may be delayed to accommodate a collaboration with Bruno?

Nope, Adam has not said anything. People are reading into his being fuzzy about dates, but there is no confirmation that it’s anything more than Adam’s usual loose grasp on times/dates. I’m not ruling it out, but not considering it a done deal either.

Adam has talked in interviews about a particular song for the album that they’re still working on in the studio, and also a vocal collab he’s hoping might come thru. It seemed like the Bruno song might be one or both of those from Lyndsey’s interview, but we have no confirmation, it was actually a little confusing what he was referring to.

fuzzywuzzy

Thanks.

So Adam himself said that the album may be delayed to accommodate a particular collaboration, and it’s only speculation that it may be with Bruno.

In the past, I vaguely remember watching some performers at Clive’s party, but that must have been videos rather than a live stream.

So Adam himself said that the album may be delayed to accommodate a particular collaboration

Well, he hasn’t specifically said anything about a delay. In a couple radio interviews amongst the deluge of them yesterday, when asked about the album he said it was coming out “in the spring,” “march/april,” or hilariously “mapril.” I don’t know if there’s a possible change on the horizon and he’s hedging his bets talking about it, or if he’s being typically Adam about dates and being vague rather than taking a chance on messing up the exact date that he can’t remember. I guess we’ll find out in the next few weeks, though.

Anonymous

elliegrll …..It will take the song a few months to saturate the airwaves, ……

This I do agree with and his first single has not been out months (add dates less than a month ago) so in my mind it’s still too early to judge Adam’s first single. No it’s not “flying” up the charts but honestly I never expected it to. It has been slowly climbing and it still has a bullet. He is just now doing his US radio promo. I don’t have the statistics in front of me but I think BTIKM is moving up faster than WWFM? Anyone have the data to support that?

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Anonymous

Check out MJ’s article on the party and the stream in 2010. There was probably one last year too but I’m too lazy to look for it. http://www.mjsbigblog.com/watc…

I’m pretty sure that if you read the posts on that thread that you will see that we only saw the red carpet interviews.

In the past, some cable companies like Comcast have aired the performances on their On Demand channel, but a few weeks after the party.

Mateja Praznik

It’s simple. Label’s A&R is a part of the label that helps the artist work. A&R people look for new material, suggest collaborators (writers, producers), follow trends, suggest upcoming producers to the artist to get new sound and be step ahead of the competition. I don’t think recording a few songs needs to take half a year or more. I guess fans in the bubble in the last few years expect the Idols to be 100% involved in making new material and not just recording the vocals.

So once debut album gets released and artist starts promoting it, A&R should continue looking for songs. After the holidays, there is enough time to plan recording some new material for re-release or something. Management can put together a tour for summer/early fall. That way, if they push a new single at the time (from re-release), artist actually has something new to promote, not just single from an album that was released almost a year ago. Because doing radio promo while on tour and expecting radio stations to remember you a year and a half later when you release new material, just doesn’t make sense.

As I said before, first tours after debut album release don’t have to be long because they have only one album worth of material.

No. First, Adam himself did not say there was a delay, he just said the album would be out March/April which could be a delay or it could be him just being loose with time like he usually is. Either is fine with me, but he didn’t say it definitely (and he changed his twitter bio to the release date March 20 a few dates ago so who knows).

Second, he said he’s currently working on a song with Bruno that Dr. Luke is producing and then in a separate interview said he was working on a vocal collaboration. The only speculation is that those might be the same thing, and that if there is a delay, it’s to accommodation this track’s inclusion on the album.

I don’t know if there’s a possible change on the horizon and he’s hedging his bets talking about it, or if he’s being typically Adam about dates and being vague rather than taking a chance on messing up the exact date that he can’t remember. I guess we’ll find out in the next few weeks, though.

You may be right, but I find it hard to believe that anyone can’t remember the exact date that their album will be released. People say March or April, when no set date has been established, not when one has.

This I do agree with and his first single has not been out months (add dates less than a month ago) so in my mind it’s still too early to judge Adam’s first single.

The song has been available to PDs since last two weeks in December. I’m not going to argue about add dates, but if we assume that Adam’s album will be out in when he said it would, he has about six more weeks for the song to make an impact. I have no idea what RCA has heard from PDs, and whether or not they think that it will be in a good position at that time. I’m just saying that if they’ve heard that PDs aren’t crazy about the song, or if they think it needs more time, there’s nothing wrong with delaying the album.

Mateja Praznik

Basically IMO Sony’s A&R had Idols as a priority only for debut albums. After that, only Carrie, Kelly and maybe Chris stayed priorities. Maybe Sony just got tired of working with Idols.

But, Sony’s A&R can do wonders for acts from reality talent shows. At least after seeing what Sony UK is doing in recent years with X Factor acts makes me think that they can do a lot if they want to.

Anonymous

I watched the entire party including Clive’s lengthy, boring, self-aggrandizing speeches between performers live online. Shall I share the link when it goes viral or just keep it to myself?

Do what ever you like. It doesn’t change the fact that the 2010 post that you linked to didn’t have a stream of the actual party. I’m sure that people would enjoy to have access to the event, hopefully the Grammy webcast will show the entire thing this year.

Mateja Praznik

IMO, BTIKM won’t do much. Add dates came and went and the song didn’t get a lot of adds. The label had time for promo, the PDs had time to check out the song. The number of adds so far is just not good and at the rate new adds are coming weekly, the song won’t make much of an impact.

Oh and these days pop songs are expected to sell. Having a platinum pop single used to be a big deal, but these days the song almost has to sell 2 million to be considered a hit. That’s how digital downloads exploded.

Anonymous

Basically IMO Sony’s A&R had Idols as a priority only for debut albums. After that, only Carrie, Kelly and maybe Chris stayed priorities. Maybe Sony just got tired of working with Idols.

I don’t think that the A&R people were invested in every former alum, not even when it came to the debut album. Clive Davis was very committed to Fantasia’s career, even with the second album. I think he was more invested in developing her career than he was Kelly’s, but that just may be because Fantasia produces the type of music that he likes.

I don’t think that anyone can make the A&R reps be invested in people who only have a contract because they were on a television show, so I think the real issue is that 19, Simon Cowell, and whoever is in charge at The Voice, should have their own A&R department. I think they owe that to the contestants.

fuzzywuzzy

Oh, so the album release may not be delayed? OK.

fuzzywuzzy

Oh, OK, thanks. I think that I have it straight now. lol

Mateja Praznik

Well yeah, if A&R isn’t interested, there is no point in signing Idols. Good A&R is crucial. Idols coming off the show are newbies, they need good A&R more than anything.

fuzzywuzzy

Yeah, I remember watching Clive drone on and on too, but I can’t remember if it was a live stream or video.

Anonymous

Or he may just decide he hates everything he’s recorded so far and start over.

Anonymous

I’m not sure why my comment was deleted, but I’m glad to have cleared it up. He had a ton of interviews yesterday and there was a lot of information to take in, so I could see why people would be confused or just not know. I listened to them all and I’m still not 100% sure. Lol.

Bottom line is that no one knows any definite plans b/c Adam hasn’t said anything definite (other than he is working to finalize the Bruno track and is working to secure a vocal collaboration), so anything beyond that is speculation from all parties.

You may be right, but I find it hard to believe that someone can’t remember the exact date that their album will be released.

Adam has just gotten back from 10 days of European promo with journalists in several different countries, many with different release dates. He may have just gotten into the habit of being deliberately vague after that avalanche of interviews. It’s not like he’s ever been all that precise with dates/times in the last 3 years either.

Moria Polonius

Lol, wasn’t it what he did when he searched his soul with Pharell Willams?

Did I miss hearing something? I didn’t hear Adam say he was doing a duet with Bruno, but they were going to collaborate on a dance song. I just assumed that meant Bruno was writing something with/for him.

I also thought it was reported that his album would debut in March. I thought it was all finished with recording and production. That seems like a pretty tight schedule if he’s also doing all this promo.

koshka

Ha! I guess its better than being TOLD to go back to the drawing board, eh?

I’d go to Clive’s party just to see Elvis Costello, Jackson Brown, and hear Ray Davis perform Lola and You Really Got Me.

Anonymous

I don’t think recording a few songs needs to take half a year or more.

In my opinion if it was truly as simple as you make it sound then every one would be releasing new material every 4 or 5 months. Many many artists take years to put out their next album even ones no more established than idols? I agree that what you describe is what A&Rs do but how many songs did Adam say he wrote? How many songs did Pia say she’s recorded or demo’d or what ever? I don’t expect my idol to be 100% involved but clearly he wants to be. Why else be executive producer and creative art director and totally hands on with his video’s and creating/developing his tour concept. Adam actually said something along the lines that with his first album he’s basically a singer and with this album he wants to be an artist. Someone who has something to say from within themselves and it can take a while to bring that to fruition.

koshka

I don’t really care if he delays again, because at this point the only reason they would delay is to add another gem to the album or to pump some life into the single. IMHO I think any delay will have to do with squeezing in the vocal collaboration. Time will tell.

On a separate note: Geez RCA is crappy at selecting singles. My pity to any of the idols that are releasing in 2012. LOL

Anonymous

You didn’t miss anything, the duet is pure speculation since he mentioned he’s working with Bruno right now and that he’s trying to lock in a vocal collaboration. No one knows if the vocal collaboration is Bruno on the track he’s working on with Adam or someone else. Personally, I think it’s someone else, but it’s also not definitive that will be a vocal collaboration.

Either way, he’s never been finished with the making the album. He’s done with somewhere between 6-8 tracks, but that’s it. He was still working on FYE less than a month before it’s release, but everything not being final (like the Bruno track or the inclusion of the duet, again speculation) could make it delayed. Like I said earlier, Nicki Minaj’s album was pushed back from Valentine’s day to April for not dissimilar reasons.

Anonymous

So…right now we don’t REALLY know anything? lol

We do know Adam is going to Clive’s Grammy Party tonight and it is the hottest ticket in town!

Anonymous

Possibly not anymore, Whitney Houston was just announced to be have died and Clive was super close to her.

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fuzzywuzzy

Yeah, since I’m not an intense fan, I don’t watch or listen to every single interview or performance that Adam (or Kelly) gives. I really just want to know when new music is released so I can see what music I like and buy that. lol

koshka

Sometimes it really is that simple. :)

fuzzywuzzy

Wait… so Adam’s “collaboration” with Bruno is a duet? Really? When did he divulge this information? I’m confused again. lol

ETA: Nevermind. lol

Anonymous

That’s horrible news about Whitney Houston. I can’t believe this happened one day before the Grammys. Wow.

fuzzywuzzy

Woah! That’s a real shock! No cause of death reported yet. RIP Whitney.

Moria Polonius

Hahaha, definitely. I was so relieved when Adam changed his tune and stopped saying that the album would be like WWFM and IIHY.

One thing makes me wonder: Adam’s been saying many times that during the tour he learned who his fans were and factored that into the overall album. I really wish he’d elaborate on that because I believe he also said that he had been planning to go pop/rock route like the radio singles because that’s what he had thought his fans wanted from him. So what made him change his mind about his fanbase, aside from “be true to yourself” stuff that might have come from Pharell Williams? Did he realize that it’s more diverse than he originally thought and that he would cater to the portion he identifies with the most, or did he come to the conclusion that WWFM and IIHY weren’t actually the fanbase’s most favorite ones…?

Lol, I wish I could interview him personally with these burning questions.

Anonymous

One day after she performed for the first time in a long while too. Whitney performed at a party last night.

Anonymous

I’m going to guess that after all this talk about the party, Clive Davis will probably cancel it. He was a big friend of her’s.

Anonymous

Yes, I agree all this discussion is moot. The important thing is for her family and friends to do what they need to do, and Clive was extremely close to her. I hope he (and everyone else close to her) takes any and all the time they need in the face of this tragedy.

Anonymous

I would love to sit in with you on that interview….LOL

I remember him saying early on in the writing when his directions starting to change that he wanted not to sing songs he thought his fans wanted so much but concentrate on more what he wanted. He still wanted to please his fans but still not go that same route and I am glad he changed.

Anonymous

Twitter is reporting that the Clive’s Grammy party is cancelled.

DragonFly

Just taking one line of defense for Nikki & Paul McDonald–she did record a duet with him–it was feat. here. Can’t say she didn’t go down to the studio w/him.

musicality

Who is Paul’s wife? Never heard of her. Front row at fashion week is not too shabby. You need pull to get that.

Getting an invite to Clives’ party is huge. As several news sources have reported it’s the must have invite.

I was on twitter and Shirley Halperin (and several others) reported that Adam Lambert and Britney Spears sat together for the night.

Karen C

I guess fans in the bubble in the last few years expect the Idols to be 100% involved in making new material and not just recording the vocals.

Not just in the idol bubble, it depends on the type of artist. A singer-songwriter would be expected to be more involved no matter if they are from Idol or not. Finding singles for someone would occur if the artist wasn’t writing their own material and the turnaround probably would be faster for this type of artist.

What I think does, or has, hurt the Idols the past few years is not enough singles were released from the debut albums even though the albums or other singles were successful. The time that the idols have taken for their next album the next few years is about the same as it was for other artists who write their own material (2-3 years). And this includes KAty Perry, Lady Gaga, and Adele, who had successful second albums, who all had successful albums in 2011 when their debuts came out in 2008.

The other thing I wonder about is that normally artists work with A&R before their albums come out. WIth the Idols, it’s only a few months for the debut album, and maybe they are working on this more on the second albums.

I do think in recent years that one reason that the second albums are taking longer is so that they could work on what direction they truly want to go in with their music. And there is evidence that RCA has supported this, because of who they are working with and cowriting with on the albums.

Anonymous

It’s so easy to sit here and analyze someone elses’ life/career but we aren’t in their heads and hearts. So who knows what Paul is thinking (or any of the others). Maybe he wants a break, maybe he wants people to forget he was on AI, maybe he’s contemplating a career change and doing something besides music. Maybe spending time savoring his marriage is more important to him right now (life can be short). Who knows? For me whether or not it makes sense I have to believe that they have their reasons for doing what they do.

If someone just wants to be a singer and sing songs other people write then more power to them, there is nothing wrong with that. But if someone prefers to actually create the music they sing/perform out of their own heads or collaboratively because they have something they want to say, then they should do that. If that takes longer then so be it. If they are great live performers and they have fans who will pay to see them then they should tour. If you have fans all over the world it will take longer to tour all those places. I think besides the money to be earned there are a lot of positive intangibles that touring provides. Different life experiences and cultures to explore. Learning how it feels to perform their music live and see fan reactions to different songs and visual cues. All of that comes back into finding/creating the next thing the artist may want to say with new music.

I can’t see A&R people spending a lot of time/effort finding a singer new songs to sing until they see how the debut album is selling. If the album/singles sell well then the label will invest time/money into a second album. Seems to me there will always be a time lag waiting to see how released music is received before beginning the next project.