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Temporary Additional Spectrum

You won’t see any AWS-3 now. AT&T is not only using AWS-4 from Dish but I found the I block in Jersey City yesterday . That is paired with the J block on a few sites so they’re running wideband AWS. Verizon didn’t bother to use more spectrum.

At&t got the better deal from Dish. Sad to see how Verizon isn't taking advantage.

Originally Posted by Checker79

You won’t see any AWS-3 now. AT&T is not only using AWS-4 from Dish but I found the I block in Jersey City yesterday . That is paired with the J block on a few sites so they’re running wideband AWS. Verizon didn’t bother to use more spectrum.

Right. Plus Verizon has touted a CBRS deployment since last September yet it's hardly been seen. With their amount of small cells and having pretty much exclusive use of it at this time, they could have quite a bit of added capacity in areas that need it right now.

However, Verizon CEO Hans Vestberg said in the company’s recent first quarter earnings call with investors that Verizon has not yet needed to use any of the temporary AWS-3 spectrum licenses because it has been able to manage the extra usage on the network without them. Vestberg called those licenses an “insurance” in case the company couldn’t keep up with the extra constraints on the network.

However, Verizon CEO Hans Vestberg said in the company’s recent first quarter earnings call with investors that Verizon has not yet needed to use any of the temporary AWS-3 spectrum licenses because it has been able to manage the extra usage on the network without them. Vestberg called those licenses an “insurance” in case the company couldn’t keep up with the extra constraints on the network.

So much for Verizon not using those licenses huh ?

Well then it definitely appears the CEO’s statement wasn’t exactly accurate. I do realize that overall Verizon does a very good job managing spectrum but I don’t know why the continually say they are just fine with what they have.

Well then it definitely appears the CEO’s statement wasn’t exactly accurate. I do realize that overall Verizon does a very good job managing spectrum but I don’t know why the continually say they are just fine with what they have.

Let’s see how they do not having access to any more mid band until end of 2021

Let’s see how they do not having access to any more mid band until end of 2021

Yup. Wireless data use has had tremendous growth over the last few years and will only continue to grow. They can’t keep up for long. If I had a guess I can imagine they will go after between 20-40 MHz of CBRS and use it to augment LTE and they will go after 100 MHz or more of c-Band and use it all for 5G. Although I would imagine they will publicly deny the need for more spectrum until the auction results come back.

Yup. Wireless data use has had tremendous growth over the last few years and will only continue to grow. They can’t keep up for long. If I had a guess I can imagine they will go after between 20-40 MHz of CBRS and use it to augment LTE and they will go after 100 MHz or more of c-Band and use it all for 5G. Although I would imagine they will publicly deny the need for more spectrum until the auction results come back.

It’s the timing that concerns me. Sure they’re deploying CBRS but I haven’t seen it on a wide scale. Between that and C band they’re in a bit of a fix. T-Mobile has 2.5 and is deploying fast.

Do you have any idea on the range of the PAL/licensed CBRS spectrum. I saw the unlicensed spectrum can go about a mile. I imagine the licensed spectrum will have different power specs and can travel a lot further. I’m guessing just short of the band 41 range.

In a rural setting it may not help a ton but in a more metro setting they could easily blanket coverage with that. As it’s my understanding that metro towers are turned way down power/transmission wise cause they focus on capacity more than coverage.

Temporary Additional Spectrum

Originally Posted by JoeInPa

Do you have any idea on the range of the PAL/licensed CBRS spectrum. I saw the unlicensed spectrum can go about a mile. I imagine the licensed spectrum will have different power specs and can travel a lot further. I’m guessing just short of the band 41 range.

In a rural setting it may not help a ton but in a more metro setting they could easily blanket coverage with that. As it’s my understanding that metro towers are turned way down power/transmission wise cause they focus on capacity more than coverage.

This article explains a lot on how CBRS will behave in terms of range. 10mm has found CBRS to travel a mile which is quite impressive. Perhaps in markets away from where the navy has priority they can blast the range a bit more. Are you seeing any CBRS sites in Pittsburgh ?

This article explains a lot on how CBRS will behave in terms of range. 10mm has found CBRS to travel a mile which is quite impressive. Perhaps in markets away from where the navy has priority they can blast the range a bit more. Are you seeing any CBRS sites in Pittsburgh ?

A mile Is pretty impressive for the unlicensed portion. I was figuring the licensed portion may go around 2-2.5 miles but that was just kind of a guess. And I do not have a CBRS capable phone to test and see if verizon has any active CBRS in Pittsburgh but I have seen several macro sites with the small square antenna that I’m assuming is CBRS as well as a handful the black small cells that have they gray panels built in.