To All, Yes there are some people that take adantage of others who are willing to shell out money to help someone. But as in the case of an FBB, you have to remember that these girls that compete have to train and diet very hard. Its the equivalent of working a 16hr day to others. Remember, food, supplements, gym fees, trainers etc. could be very costly. In the case of Isabelle I know her personally, and could tell you she is not the type to take advantage of someone for their money. That go fundme page was long ago, and your right she set a goal of 6,000. If she was looking to take advantage of someone she would have had no limit. RIGHT! She trains very hard and deserves everyrhing she has earned, without taking advantage of anyone. So please omit her as an example of girls taking advanage of shmos for their money. Thank You

It is not her fault, the blame really goes to the schmoes who sent her money. But it is common sense tosay that having a Go Fund Me Page asking for money while showing off recently purchased expensive cars and photos of your constant travels thru out the country, is not the best look. Especially how she makes decent off of schmoes through schmo activities.

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To All, Yes there are some people that take adantage of others who are willing to shell out money to help someone. But as in the case of an FBB, you have to remember that these girls that compete have to train and diet very hard. Its the equivalent of working a 16hr day to others. Remember, food, supplements, gym fees, trainers etc. could be very costly. In the case of Isabelle I know her personally, and could tell you she is not the type to take advantage of someone for their money. That go fundme page was long ago, and your right she set a goal of 6,000. If she was looking to take advantage of someone she would have had no limit. RIGHT! She trains very hard and deserves everyrhing she has earned, without taking advantage of anyone. So please omit her as an example of girls taking advanage of shmos for their money. Thank You

It is not her fault, the blame really goes to the schmoes who sent her money. But it is common sense tosay that having a Go Fund Me Page asking for money while showing off recently purchased expensive cars and photos of your constant travels thru out the country, is not the best look. Especially how she makes decent off of schmoes through schmo activities.

Indeed - bodybuilders aren't soccer, US football or track & field stars who make $Ms from their sport and endorsements - only Arnie and a handfull of others have made a recently decent living off the back off BBing, but some do make reasonable money, though not via 'conventional' means, assuming they don't have a 'normal' day job (quite a feat, given how much time is required to be a top BBer) as quite a few FBBs do. What bugs me is when FBBs ask for $$$ to cover their expenses in the sport, then (as you say) are shown with their brand new expensive sports car or apparel, or sunning themselves in some up-market resort, whilst REAL dedicated athletes scrape by but dedicate their time, money and effort to the sporting goals, and achieve them more often than the other group who fritter it away.

Ultimately their choice as to how they lead their lives, as well as ours as to whether we feel its worth giving our hard-earned to them (whether via paying for merchandise, crowd-funding, sponsorship or sessions), but sympathy will be in short supply if FBBs lie and rip fans off, just as our often hypocritical approach to paying (or not) for copyrighted video/photo content from these ladies doesn't do their opinion of us fans any good either. Its not all one-sided.

We're all free to do what the hell we want with our money. Moaning about those who can get cash or Amazon wish list items is pointless.

Exactly. We live in the era of gofundme.com and kickstarter.com. Cmon now. At least these women offer a something in exchange for $. If it doesn't make sense to you, don't spend $ on it. Easy enough.

I personally have never spent $ on a session or anything, although I'm not opposed to it, and I'd do that a million times over before I'd give $50 to a guy I knew in HS who sent me a link to his gofundme page last week. He needs help paying off bills so he can 'get back on his feet.' This guy is 38, gets fired at least 1x/yr for just being a lazy person, and has NO shame in begging for money. This is the 3rd time I've seen one of those from him.

from the askers perspective, you never really know what you can get without asking. And you never know who may give if you don't ask. It is not your fault if they do give.

from a givers perspective, its your money do what you want with it. for me, I do my research before I do anything with my money, if I felt it was someone I wanted to give to no matter the circumstance then its my money to give........but I rarely do.

To the original question posed in the title of this thread, "Are some women taking advantage of us?" Yes, but they are only taking advantage of those who are allowing them self to be taken advantage of.

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These often intensely desirable and uncommon women should enjoy their own hard earned value and the generosity of people willing to help support them. Period.

Its when they lies about the 'support', i.e. not for food, training fees and flights/hotel bills to attend contests, but on flashy sports cars because they already have enough money (other scams or rich hubby?) and take delight in fleecing niaive fans, or similar but squandering it. Crowd funding is a whole different kettle of fish to paying for a session or video clip, whereby at least you get something in return guaranteed (for the most part) or at least can tell everyone that what you paid for was poor. It just takes a bit of investigating before you give away your hard-earned cash. This is especially of importance when FBBs can be easily impersonated on such websites so fans would be crowdfunding a fake account - been done before with so-called charities, actually funding extremists. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hadn't already tried this, but for 'ordinary' fraudulent reasons (greed). A bit of common sense is needed, that's all.

I don't know what the exact term is for it, but there are guys who need to send money and things as a form of tribute. I try not to judge fetishes (to each his/her own), so if a female wishes to take advantage of these guys, and they're anxious to be taken advantage of, why not? No one is being forced or harmed. As to whether it demeans either party, I cannot say. We all make our own decisions and live with whatever consequences result. Not for me or others to paternalistically intervene.

Well people should have control over their own finance. If they feel like they should pay then they will.

I have personally never paid any fbb, porn, GoFundMe cams or anything like that. I'm going to sound like an ahole saying this, but I honestly don't give a damn whether there is no porn, movies or music. All this entertainment are fluff to me. If it's free or available I'll take it, if it's not I'll move on with my life. I love looking at fbb and all, but between paying for it or have it gone, I would rather have it gone.

I don't really get the anger at the women using the money for luxury either. Should always operate donations as knowing you don't know the future usage of the donation. Obviously this doesn't apply to services.

I don't really get the anger at the women using the money for luxury either. Should always operate donations as knowing you don't know the future usage of the donation. Obviously this doesn't apply to services.

Agreed and in essence that is why you should try to get something back for your money. The nicer women will understand the trade-off.

I'm guessing at some stage somebody has latched on trying to get money from us. I had one who basically told me via sms she had installed herself as my girlfriend, even though we lived thousands of miles apart and had met twice only. Then came an endless string of hard luck stories etc etc. She was my girlfriend though, so don't you treat your girlfriend right? Others would snap her up any time she told me. Answer was clearly no thanks and good luck, but full marks for trying I guess. Isabelle does give something in the sense of lots of amazing pics, vids, fantasy etc etc. There are always chancers in this environment. Easy to spot and easy peasy to avoid by ignoring if you like.

I'm guessing at some stage somebody has latched on trying to get money from us. I had one who basically told me via sms she had installed herself as my girlfriend, even though we lived thousands of miles apart and had met twice only. Then came an endless string of hard luck stories etc etc. She was my girlfriend though, so don't you treat your girlfriend right? Others would snap her up any time she told me. Answer was clearly no thanks and good luck, but full marks for trying I guess. Isabelle does give something in the sense of lots of amazing pics, vids, fantasy etc etc. There are always chancers in this environment. Easy to spot and easy peasy to avoid by ignoring if you like.

I'm guessing at some stage somebody has latched on trying to get money from us. I had one who basically told me via sms she had installed herself as my girlfriend, even though we lived thousands of miles apart and had met twice only. Then came an endless string of hard luck stories etc etc. She was my girlfriend though, so don't you treat your girlfriend right? Others would snap her up any time she told me. Answer was clearly no thanks and good luck, but full marks for trying I guess. Isabelle does give something in the sense of lots of amazing pics, vids, fantasy etc etc. There are always chancers in this environment. Easy to spot and easy peasy to avoid by ignoring if you like.