tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-510288940796977839.post4468496790186537905..comments2018-02-13T23:27:07.427-08:00Comments on paul gregutt&#39;s washington wine blog – unfined &amp; unfiltered: is viognier the 12th man of grapes?PaulGhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05409346656762573929noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-510288940796977839.post-43355057317400471672012-05-17T02:36:43.746-07:002012-05-17T02:36:43.746-07:00Morgan Clendenan of Cold Heaven Cellars in Buelton...Morgan Clendenan of Cold Heaven Cellars in Buelton, CA (Paso area) makes four excellent Viogniers. Worth seeking out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-510288940796977839.post-72175951223439372532012-05-11T09:21:30.209-07:002012-05-11T09:21:30.209-07:00I have not yet had the 2011 Tertulia.I have not yet had the 2011 Tertulia.PaulGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05409346656762573929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-510288940796977839.post-71721206938671162292012-05-10T21:35:02.452-07:002012-05-10T21:35:02.452-07:00Hi Paul,
What are your thoughts on the 2011 Tertul...Hi Paul,<br />What are your thoughts on the 2011 Tertulia Cellars Viognier?<br /><br />--TimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-510288940796977839.post-13393079014649367372012-05-10T10:49:20.713-07:002012-05-10T10:49:20.713-07:00Can&#39;t believe no one has mentioned the Viognie...Can&#39;t believe no one has mentioned the Viogniers of Paso Robles, Ca. There are many producers there and many of the wines are really good. Some of my favorites in fact!Xochitlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16306998402005431631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-510288940796977839.post-5160186867010198802012-05-10T09:17:01.710-07:002012-05-10T09:17:01.710-07:00Well, I&#39;ve been making Virginia Viogniers for ...Well, I&#39;ve been making Virginia Viogniers for 20 years (Well, there was a 12 year hiatus when I was making wine in California and Oregon). Several of them have been sold in that big state out on the Left Coast (California). One (1993 Horton Viognier) has long been considered the US benchmark for the varietal.Alannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-510288940796977839.post-8232865420843834292012-05-10T09:02:06.133-07:002012-05-10T09:02:06.133-07:00For some reason, this comment will not post, so I ...For some reason, this comment will not post, so I am posting it for Dave McIntyre: &quot;Paul - Last year, the Virginia Wine Board declared Viognier to be the state&#39;s &quot;official&quot; grape. Virginia makes plenty of varietally labeled Viognier in many styles - my favorites are those made with little or no oak, and then only &quot;neutral&quot; barrels. Here&#39;s a piece I did on some of the stylistic differences. http://wapo.st/bcv87v<br /><br />If life or work ever brings you to DC or Virginia, I encourage you to look for some of these.&quot;<br /><br />Dave McIntyre<br /><br />Dave - will do! Thanks for the comment.PaulGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05409346656762573929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-510288940796977839.post-35716021619420261962012-05-10T08:59:39.136-07:002012-05-10T08:59:39.136-07:00I totally get that Virginia = Viognier! I try not ...I totally get that Virginia = Viognier! I try not to make blanket pronouncements, which is why I wrote &quot;Does any region or country producing varietal viognier really claim it as their signature grape? Not to my knowledge.&quot; Not to my knowledge. Knowledge now adjusted. As for denying linkage, that was never my intent, nor was it stated as such. I was writing specifically about varietal labeling. I am well aware that it is very New World. I am not &quot;caught up&quot; in it; I was simply commenting on it. Varietal labeling has its plusses and its minuses, no question about that. So now I will give Virginia its due as the Viognier capital of the New World. It&#39;s up to Virginia to get its wines distributed here on the Left Coast. When that happens, I will be delighted to write about them.PaulGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05409346656762573929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-510288940796977839.post-8320134525586843012012-05-10T08:56:02.472-07:002012-05-10T08:56:02.472-07:00Besides Condrieu, Virginia&#39;s signature white i...Besides Condrieu, Virginia&#39;s signature white is Viognier, as the loose clusters help airflow in the humid environment.peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-510288940796977839.post-70942440512996403912012-05-10T08:39:56.877-07:002012-05-10T08:39:56.877-07:00Condrieu, Condrieu, Condrieu. Truly one of the co...Condrieu, Condrieu, Condrieu. Truly one of the consummate matches of varietal and terroir found anywhere in the world. Would you deny the link of Sancerre and Sauvignon Blanc because it doesn&#39;t say &quot;Sauvignon Blanc&quot; on the label? Remember, it is a very &quot;new world&quot; thing to be so caught up in varietal labeling...Tom Wardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-510288940796977839.post-38659909345909315562012-05-10T08:35:34.285-07:002012-05-10T08:35:34.285-07:00If you want to find Viogner as a signature wine th...If you want to find Viogner as a signature wine then you need to look at Virginia. Many vineyards grow and bottle varital Viogner. The last one I had was from Flying Fox Vineyard in Afton, VA. It was varietally correct and the owner was very informative.Richmondnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-510288940796977839.post-30040110383217352922012-05-10T08:12:25.461-07:002012-05-10T08:12:25.461-07:00Along with the above comment...Viognier was claime...Along with the above comment...Viognier was claimed as &quot;Virginia&#39;s grape&quot; ....<br /><br />Shortly researched statement there?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-510288940796977839.post-27674318532812729862012-05-09T11:45:02.079-07:002012-05-09T11:45:02.079-07:00Paul - Last year, the Virginia Wine Board declared...Paul - Last year, the Virginia Wine Board declared Viognier to be the state&#39;s &quot;official&quot; grape. Virginia makes plenty of varietally labeled Viognier in many styles - my favorites are those made with little or no oak, and then only &quot;neutral&quot; barrels. Here&#39;s a piece I did on some of the stylistic differences. http://wapo.st/bcv87v<br /><br />If life or work ever brings you to DC or Virginia, I encourage you to look for some of these.<br /><br />Dave McIntyreDave McIntyrehttp://dmwineline.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-510288940796977839.post-76866480415536354232012-05-09T09:54:02.970-07:002012-05-09T09:54:02.970-07:00I love making Viognier, just as I love the Seahawk...I love making Viognier, just as I love the Seahawks! It is finicky and hard to love, but when you can get it right, it&#39;s magical. Just waiting to make that perfect vee-own-yay just as I&#39;m waiting for the Seahawks to win the Super Bowl!Marcus Rafanellihttp://www.williamchurchwinery.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-510288940796977839.post-370843941912412652012-05-09T09:46:34.642-07:002012-05-09T09:46:34.642-07:00As a graduate of Texas A&amp;M University I believ...As a graduate of Texas A&amp;M University I believe Seattleites should acknowledge that they did not originate the 12th Man.John M. Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18343670865804216103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-510288940796977839.post-88513422110163881162012-05-09T09:22:15.446-07:002012-05-09T09:22:15.446-07:00I was at Georges Vernay last week and saw pictures...I was at Georges Vernay last week and saw pictures of him planting Viognier in the 60&#39;s when it was all but gone in France (15 acres was all that existed at the time) They were using a jackhammer to break up the &quot;soil&quot; so they could shape the terraces. The Viognier was very special, and the price (62 euros) was also :)Don Phelpshttp://www.hardrow.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-510288940796977839.post-75099947455990233102012-05-09T08:26:37.143-07:002012-05-09T08:26:37.143-07:00Esteemed Hosemaster, of course you are right. But ...Esteemed Hosemaster, of course you are right. But Condrieu is not varietally labeled, virtually disappeared not many years ago, and hardly qualifies as a signature wine for the Rhone. So I must stick to my 12th man analogy.PaulGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05409346656762573929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-510288940796977839.post-10091048450924760972012-05-09T08:22:29.779-07:002012-05-09T08:22:29.779-07:00&quot;Does any region or country producing varieta...&quot;Does any region or country producing varietal viognier really claim it as their signature grape? Not to my knowledge.&quot;<br /><br />Condrieu, my friend, is the home of Viognier, in the Northern Rhone. And the only grape allowed in the appellation. It wasn&#39;t that long ago that Viognier existed only in Cote Rotie and Condrieu. And though there are lovely Viogniers being produced in many places, few match the power of a Condrieu producer like Georges Vernay.Ron Washam, HMWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11238869156614617705noreply@blogger.com