Why Romney May Win

Most polls tell us about the opinions of voters. A few tell us about the opinions of pollsters.

The most recent Investor’s Business Daily/TIPP poll, at least as of this writing, shows Barack Obama with a 45-44 lead over Mitt Romney. The internals of the poll show that the pollster favors Democrats, too. A full 38 percent of those included in the survey identified as Democrats, while just 31 percent identified as Republicans. Though the researchers may not have been deliberately aiming for such an overwhelming Democratic advantage, the demographic assumptions they made predetermined which party would enjoy favoritism. This seven-point differential matches the Democrat’s party-identification advantage for 2008, when African Americans turned out in record numbers and young people opted for the Democratic candidate over the Republican by a record margin. Historic elections by definition don’t happen every four years. Counting on maximum-level support, and among the groups traditionally among those least reliable when it comes to voting, seems wishful thinking. But the Investor’s Business Daily/TIPP count, like the Obama campaign itself, supposes another Democrat “perfect storm” in 2012.

The pro-Obama bias runs deeper within the various polls of contested battleground states. In 2008, Democrats constituted 29 percent of the New Hampshire electorate according to exit polls. The latest University of New Hampshire poll, which shows the president comfortably ahead by nine points in the state, assumes a 46 percent turnout among Democrats in the Granite State in 2012. In Florida, the CBS/New York Times/Quinnipiac poll, which claims a one-point advantage for Obama over Romney, assumes that the Democrat party-identification advantage will increase from 2008’s +3 to +7 in 2012. In Colorado, the partisan PPP poll depicts a 51-47 Obama advantage. The survey anticipates that Democratic voters in Colorado will rise from 30 percent of the electorate to 37 percent. These polls seem more geared toward influencing voter opinion than reflecting it.

But even the most slanted polls aren’t totally useless. The percentage of independents that they survey differs. The attitude of the independents they survey remains consistent. In poll after poll, independent voters support Mitt Romney over Barack Obama. The Republican leads Obama 51-39 among independents in both the National Public Radio and CBS/New York Times/Quinnipiac polls. In the Investor’s Business Daily/TIPP poll, Romney’s lead among independents is 46-38. No Democrat has won the presidency during the last half century without also winning independent voters. The irony of the bitter red-blue divide is that the few “purple” voters immune to the polarization increasingly decide elections.

If this race is about, as Obama’s leading campaign surrogate once believed, “the economy, stupid,” then the contest favors Romney. In the NBC/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll, which featured a sampling bias in favor of the Democrats, respondents nevertheless favored Romney on the economy. When asked, “Who do you think is better prepared to create jobs and improve the economy over the next four years?” the polled chose Romney by 45-41. Other polls have also shown a Romney advantage on the question of the economy.

Ironically, the people pollsters have been polling are not the people most likely to show up at polling places. When CBS/New York Times/Quinnipiac most recently queried likely voters about their enthusiasm for their chosen candidate, 68 percent of Romney supporters said they were “very” enthusiastic to just 59 percent for Obama voters. In NPR’s poll, 76 percent of Republicans rated the election a “10” in terms of importance versus just 66 percent of Democrats. While the enthusiasm edge may seem marginal, so is the percentage differential between the candidates in most national polls.

So what catalyzed independents to abandon the president and catalyzed Republicans to so enthusiastically oppose him?

A political obituary, should the president lose on Tuesday, might note that he couldn’t run the country like he could run for president. He mistook the gas for the brake pedal when voters rebuked him first in Massachusetts and then nationwide in 2010. He promised change and delivered more of the same.

A candidate running on change always risks disappointment catching up to him.

and about the recent belch of American judicial system http://www.orlytaitzesq.com complement each other helping you to fathom the big picture. The "finding" of the court trial today is that the records asked by Mr. Trump have been deliberately destroyed! Here is an admission from the general council of the Occidental College: "COURTS DON'T LIKE TO RULE ON THINGS THAT DON'T EXIST". The courts' cover up for the impostor get more and more grotesque: The Indiana judge … VACATED (i.e. canceled!) the already heard case that took place a week ago!

RISE UP AMERICA! "ELECTION" SHAM IS NOT AN ANSWER. REVOLUTION IS!

Adam

Insanity is not the answer either.

trickyblain

That was Patrick Henry, boss.

http://www.resonoelusono.com/Platform.htm Alexander Gofen

Sorry for misquoting

http://www.resonoelusono.com/Platform.htm Alexander Gofen

Ye, sure, Patrick Henry with his "give me liberty or give me death" then ought to be insane… The "sanity" means to be fooled and ignorant in 2008, and to be re-fooled and proud in 2012, I guess. The "sanity" was to allow an unidentified crook without any security clearance to become a commander-in-thief in 2008, and to not even whisper about it in 2012. A brave new sane world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

Insane would be thinking a second Obama term would be better than the first.

We don't want revolution, we don't need something new. We need to return to what did work, our constitutional rights, and a government limited by the rule of law.

http://www.resonoelusono.com/Platform.htm Alexander Gofen

Indeed the second Obama term will be much worse! Yet the sure and only mean to exclude the "second term" is to expose the unlawfulness of the first – the taboo for the criminal party and blind Romney-bots.

Yes, we ABSOLUTELY NEED to return to and restore the Constitution, which means to expose unconstitutionality and unlawfulness of this impostor-in-thief and parties covering up for him.

Cerise Rowan

Agree, Albert Einstein…. "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results".
Tough on those of us who thought it was a mistake the first time.

XCSX

somebody needs a nap…………

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

Somebody must have had a big, big drink of coolaid today.

Mike

This claim was made *before* the 2008 elections, hasn't gained legal traction in the last four years, and from what Orly's written on her own site it's clear that no judge is willing to go along with her on it. Whether true or not, it's frankly a losing cause to pursue that avenue.

Besides – If you really, honestly believe "the courts' cover up for the impostor get more and more grotesque", how can you then believe they'd expedite process and order him removed from the ballot mere days before the election, then uphold that action in the face of inevitable legal challenges? Major cognitive dissonance there.

As for revolution – it doesn't matter whether you're talking armed uprising (I hope not), or a peaceful revolution (say, a Constitutional Convention). If we don't have the votes to defeat Obama in this election, we don't have enough support to succeed via any other route – and those other routes are all vulnerable to the Law of Unintended Consequences. The election, realistically, is the only game in town.

http://www.resonoelusono.com/Platform.htm Alexander Gofen

The phrase about "a claim that since 2008 hasn't gained legal traction" is merely a euphemism expressing the unprecedented corruption and rot of this nation.

And "the only game in town" means the total defeat of Justice, of the law and order, of the Constitution. The total failure of this disgusting fat and brain dead nation, occupied by the enemy forces without a shot…

objectivefactsmatter

"And "the only game in town" means the total defeat of Justice, of the law and order, of the Constitution. The total failure of this disgusting fat and brain dead nation, occupied by the enemy forces without a shot…"

If you're that convinced, start meeting with lawyers and formulate a strategy. Return to school and get a law degree, find out how much validity there is to your theory.

There is little respect for the original US constitution, but revolution is not the answer unless you're talking about a "revolution" in education where we return to the fundamentals of teaching how to think, and teaching history as it truly happened with truly open discussions and debate.

benjabo

Americans never seem to learn from experiece

Cerise Rowan

More so than people of other nations? How many times has Greece been in bail out mode, how many political sex scandals in GB and Italy, how many border wars in the middle east… dude, I think we do manage better than many. Some Americans are slower than others, the pity is, with our political system, we have to wait for them to get it…
now we have to climb over media distortion too… I'm hoping the trend to home schooling will result in a generation of young people taught to think rather than to conform to their teachers liberal bias.

Banastre Tarleton

Obama has built the most formidible election machine in US History ; this has been in the making for 4 years and poor Romney is amateurish and merely following in Obama’s wake……Obama is going to win all of the swing states outside the Ole South on narrow margins with AT LEAST 290 ECVs

http://www.resonoelusono.com/Platform.htm Alexander Gofen

… "poor Romney is not amateurish" but merely a con man of the treasonous demo/repoobs party helping the impostor to win. Romney's and his party's highest priority is to bury forever any memory about their treason, however the entire world already knows that… Romney lacks any human dignity: He deals and extends his hand to a blatant thief.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

You think that Chicago style machine can have that many dead vote this time around?

Cerise Rowan

Hey, you can't take away their right to vote just because… let's avoid the "d" word… are you a deadophobic? they have just ceased…. being as active as they were… many are still collecting welfare and social security, right?
And after a few months, they are as corrupt as the democratic campaign… so there is a perfect match.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

That explains 'getting out the vote' in ways nothing else can.

Mary Sue

says the person stumping for the BIGGEST n00b of them all.

mlcblog

Revolution is not a good option when we have civilized phased-in revolution by our voting process. I understand being impatient and wanting it to go your way but this is how we do it. I think bloody revolution is a poor substitute to say the least.

http://www.resonoelusono.com/Platform.htm Alexander Gofen

The "voting process and election" presume such prerequisites as multi-lateral media, open discussions, and honest counting. (The "voting process and election" took place also under Stalin and Brezhnev, mind you). So, not even going into murky waters of the reported voting machine's fraud, it is enough to mention the totalitarian 24/7 propaganda for the impostor, the totalitarian cover up for that unidentified crook. That alone makes a notion of "election" senseless, null and void.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

No it doesn't.

If only you had used more big words and sounded even more intellectual you might have fooled me.

http://www.resonoelusono.com/Platform.htm Alexander Gofen

I am not fooling anybody. It is frontpage.mag and his editors who have been fooling the readers for the last 4 years mis-reporting and under-reporting the news (which do not fit their print). I do write the truth. This and the previous election campaigns in the US are not different than that of Brezhnev in the former USSR. It is a farce of election.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

Yawn…. if you're looking for a believing audience that other main stream media sites tell more of the unreported but necessary truths, you're not going to find it here.

http://www.resonoelusono.com/Platform.htm Alexander Gofen

Ahhh, I got it. There is a special kind of the so called "unnecessary truths" such as press conferences of Sheriff Arpaio (attended even by alphabetical channels), the 2010 Pastor Manning trial, trial hearings of Dr. Taitz, the 2008 Sen. Res. 511 on McCain, and so on. A lot of unnecessary truth: What a wise and honest policy of frontpagemag.com!..

Cerise Rowan

And there's the rub, the dependency on honesty… but it is still the best system

Ghostwriter

Mr. Gofen,I prefer to do things by the ballot rather than the bullet. You seem to prefer bullets and something like the French or Russian Revolutions. Look how well they turned out. The people got something worse than what they got rid of.

http://www.resonoelusono.com/Platform.htm Alexander Gofen

"To do things by the ballot" presumes certain prerequisites – see my reply to mlcblog above.

Oh, by the way, it is illegal to have an unidentified name in the ballot. And it is illegal to have a person violating the constitutional requirement for the position on the ballot.

Sunbeam

Not really, in that because we are in our own land, our own soil and not in the control Muslim land of theirs. We've the upper hand as this is legitimately our land which we inherited from our forefathers who fought and die to achieve independence. Be of courage. What we need is a united stand by everybody to achieve this. Without this the chance of winning this war is slim and narrow.

Carlos

Relax, Alexander. Go take your pills and lie down for a while

Sunbeam

We should not rule this out. In fact it should be considered. If worse comes to worse, what shall we have to loose? Do we want to see America like what's happened in Benghazi? Imagine the scenario. The people were crying out in fear because they knew they're not safe due the surrounding threat as it clearly expresses itself, and of the bias stand taken by the present Administration. Danger seems to be lurking. And are we going to sit down and watch it happening? We will be responsible for this catastrophe and will regret it for eternity with no return. So what have we got to loose? Any President who has been elected to be the President of America must abide by the Constitutions law, Bill of Rights and all the legacies enshrined in the Constitution. No other law must come in between this. They should know. Power rights belong solely to the citizens of this democratic country not by name alone but in truth and deeds as had been all along.

http://www.resonoelusono.com/Platform.htm Alexander Gofen

It is sad to observe the naivete if not stupidity of Americans – Romney-bots, replicating the same stupidity of MacCain-bots in 2008. In both cases they follow the treasonous party line as though the best way to defeat the opponent – the obvious cardsharper is … that we all go and gamble with him!

But conscious citizens do not gamble with a cardsharper naively hoping to win… They know that they would be defeated – and then would have to swallow their defeat. After all, they legitimized the gamble by their own agreement to play with the cardsharper!

In the US we were big enough, smart enough to trust fellow citizens with free choice in the ballot box.

How is that for your perspective?

Do I agree? Yes.
Do I think it has worked out well for us? Nope, we didn't bring a knife to the gun fight, we didn't even show up for the fight. So yes we have some catching up to do.

But don't tell me it's over. It's not over until the last patriot is gone.

http://www.resonoelusono.com/Platform.htm Alexander Gofen

"In the US we were big enough, smart enough to trust fellow citizens with free choice in the ballot box. How is that for your perspective?"

– You neglected the words of Adams (in the link). The above can work only for moral and religious people.

"Do I think it has worked out well for us? Nope, we didn't bring a knife to the gun fight, we didn't even show up for the fight."

– Thank you! You put it exactly right!

"So yes we have some catching up to do. But don't tell me it's over. It's not over until the last patriot is gone."

– I do not say if it is over, because I do not know. And for me it is the last place to stay too. However in the moment when the enemies of this Republic are burying the Constitution, the Justice, and the basic Law and Order into the ground forever, not only you did not "show up for the fight", you are fighting on their side.

Cerise Rowan

You do a lot of name calling but actually say very little.
Don't let the software translate for you, it often results in an incomprehensible mess.

Mary Sue

Well, I have the feeling that the polls are doing what they're doing (the ones that show obama ahead or close with romney) so that Obama's team has a basis for a court case in case the election itself is close, and do like they did in Florida in 2000.

joe get

Romney will win, it's not going to be close, so don't worry about it. I know what you've said is what Rush Limbaugh thinks, but he's spreading election fear porn. He's unnecessarily emotionally terrorizing you and everyone else. Just get out and vote, but in the meantime, stop watching TV and reading leftist propaganda. Stay under your blanket until Tuesday.

Mary Sue

I can't vote. 1) I'm not a US citizen and 2) I don't live there.

HOWEVER

If I were, I would vote, but I wouldn't vote early because I have this impression that they don't count the early votes until after the main election night are done, and then only use them if they need to. I could be wrong.

Rush Limbaugh isn't terrorizing anybody. He posits many opinions, entertains many possibilities, and occasionally makes predictions, most of which end up being bang-on correct. Rare is it that a prediction of his does not come to pass. It is not in his interest to terrorize people into not-voting for Romney.

I don't need a blanket, I'm fine. Well, I do need a blanket cuz I have a cold, but whatever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

That never stops liberals from voting….

Mary Sue

I know right! That's why they cry discrimination when you try to get them to actually show ID at a polling place. Then they can't go around to different polling places each with a different identity!

Viet Vet

Mary Sue, they don't even have to have a different ID, the Provisionary Ballot, pushed through by the democraps, allows people to vote in a precinct different from their own. So they can vote any number of times, or be bussed to different precincts and vote any number of times. It is left to the various precincts to sort all this out, but it would be too complicated, difficult and time consuming to accomplish this, especially in the larger cities, which are mostly blue. And since it's the democrap plan they wouldn't even try.

Viet Vet

Death doesn't stop democraps from voting either Roger.

deprogrammer

It was the right-wing that stole the 2000 election. All their shrieking and screaming to stop the recount when it looked like their voter suppression wasn't going to pull off the win was loud and long. That's why we ended up with 8 years of punk leadership from Bush. Well, that and his ability to exploit 9/11. Without that the revelations about his seizure of power would have meant a special election for the nation and a very long stretch in prison for him and his cronies.

Maxie

Have another shot of Jim mJones kool ade and read this. The BIASED MSM fraudulently called the Fla. vote for Gore an hour before the panhandle polls were closed. The Fla. panhandle is a GOP stronghold but the 'too-early' call discouraged many of them from bothering to vote with the (false) outcome known. That cost Bush a few thousand votes. The re-count was a vote-manufacturing scam perfected by the crooked Daley Machine in Chicago who sent their 'expert counters' to midnite chad-punch Gore to victory. It didn't work. But cheer-up. If Obozo wins now he can thank his Vote Fraud experts.

Gislef

So you don't believe the Supreme Court has the authority to make decisions? Or just decisions that you don't like?

Mary Sue

I think you got that backwards there. You bought into the mainstream koolaid that Bush "stole" the election when the truth is, Gore TRIED to steal it. And failed.

Viet Vet

LOL, are you Michael Moore-on??

There is medicine for your sickness: the book: AT ANY COST, How Al Gore Tried to Steal the Election.

It's a sure cure for your type of myopia.

joe get

Romney will win big.

kershaw

I do not believe this is a winning hand this year. I think we need to accept that Obama is heading for another 4 years but one can never be sure.

Lucifer Dye

Hey Joe, tell us again about Romney's big win.

jmm64

Given Obama's record for the past 4 years, it's an easy decision to vote for Romney this year. Each of us must get out the vote for Romney, especially in the swing states of Florida, VA, Ohio, PA, MI, and Wisconsin.

kershaw

It would be easy if we had another party. The GOP brand is dying a much needed death….and it cannot come soon enough! I personally would never vote REPUBLICAN. I would rather have the drunk on the corner than a GOPer. I hope eventually that you guys will realize that it is not your candidate that is a problem but the message and brand of the GOP. Romney was doing well as soon as he turned away (etch-a-sketch) from the GOP positions and took on a more centralist view. I think you folks will be better served if you did not watch or get all of your information from Fox News.

deprogrammer

You are going to wish in vein. This is an extreme-right, authoritarian blog. They will vote for whoever they are told to and nothing is going to change that.

No, the problem is the GOP in recent years started being too much like the Democrats. You don't realize it but the reason McCain french fries lost last time around is he was being TOO moderate. Conservatism wins elections. Maybe not all the seats, but a good number of them. It's when they get too wishy-washy and cowed by the media that they start losing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

Boehner is more worried about losing with style then to even think about trying to win in a fight.

Viet Vet

I don't have cable, so I don't get FOX either.

Viet Vet

Romney began to do well after he departed from his liberal views (etch-a-sketch) and began to talk and act like a conservative. Which is no surprise, since for many years polls and suveys have shown the majority of the American people consider themselves conservative.

Guest

Oh YES PLEASE vote for Romney in VA! PLEASE! I knew what Obama was last time and I cried when he won Virginia. Virginia NEEDS Romney votes! I'm so sick of Obama ads i could croak! I don't have cable and I cant watch a TV show without seeing OBAMA every 10 minutes! I stopped watching TV!

http://www.resonoelusono.com/Platform.htm Alexander Gofen

Even if you neglect that Romney plays for his own defeat: It is your wishful thinking to claim as though "Given Obama's record for the past 4 years, it's an easy decision to vote for Romney this year." This record (obviously abysmal in your and my view) looks just terrific for the near half of the decaying contemporary America! That is if they know anything at all. The 24/7 propaganda for the impostor and near total cover up for all his crimes makes this election campaign no different than that of Brezhnev in the former USSR.

Schlomotion

Obama may win because the old Stockholm Syndrome is easier to roll with than developing a whole new one.

Mary Sue

spoken by the true king of stockholm.

deprogrammer

Stockholm is actually a part of Sweden.. Oh, never mind a good FPMer has no time for facts.

Mary Sue

*Picard facepalm hard forever*

……… Seriously? Really? I knew leftists had NO SENSE OF HUMOR but dude, you take the freaking cake.

I KNOW Stockholm is a city in Sweden. It is the namesake of STOCKHOLM SYNDROME. The joke is, Schlomotion is the King of Stockholm [Syndrome]. Because Schlo displays the worst Stockholm Syndrome I have ever seen.

Yes I know explaining a joke pretty much ruins it, but then so do leftists just by being stupid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

Isn't it sad when they're so panicked they can't even take a joke?

Viet Vet

The problem is their (leftists) arrogance and condescension prevents their brain from functioning properly.

objectivefactsmatter

They can't even understand the joke.

Mary Sue

More's (or is that Moore's? LOL) the pity given that they think they are SMART.

Mary Sue

yup.

BLJ

Obama is toast. He has shown zero leaderships skills, is a divider and has been lying through his teeth since he got into office.

He was banking on Romney pulling a McCain but it did not happen. Someday the American people will finally figure out who this creep really was and will fully understand the mistake that was made in 2008.

kershaw

I think the Americans (majority anyway) think that the GOP is no longer mainstream but are extreme. To the point that no one I know wants to be even known as a conservative, they would rather say Independent. Not many people would get their directions from a fat, bigoted drug addict idiot aka El Rusho…..Talk to you good people again Wednesday (our Lord willing).

deprogrammer

Ultimately, the repubs policy of embracing racists in the south (aka the "Southern Strategy") doomed the party. They gained some serious power but they put all their lunch money on a backwards region, with an emphasis on it's most regressive elements. That culture war BS never really stopped and lead to rightward leaning purges that have succeeded in making the party more and more out of step.

Mary Sue

….racists?

Do you even KNOW what you're talking about, or are you stuck in 1950 where they mistook racist segregationalist Democrats for Republicans?

Viet Vet

So true Mary Sue, most of these leftwing posters have no idea that the KKK was a creation of the democrap party. It was their terrorist organization charged with killing and punishing blacks and republicans. Republicans voted in larger percentages in both Houses for the 1964-65 Civil Rights Bill. Democraps were led in a filibuster of the legislation by Robert Byrd (d-wv). A couple other democrap segregationists were William Fullbright (Klinton's mentor), and Albert Gore, Sr. The left likes to claim that racists left the democrap party and joined the republican party, but too many of them stayed in the democrap party to make this argument valid. Oh, there were democraps who did cross over, like Ronald Reagan, Jean Kirkpatrick, and Bob Bennet, to name a few. But they became republicans because the democrap party moved so far to the left. If you check their bios you'll find that rather than racists, they were ardent anti-communists.

objectivefactsmatter

Generalize much with your bigoted collectivist delusions?

Yes.

"Talk to you good people again Wednesday (our Lord willing)"

You think you need Obama's permission to post here?

Mary Sue

Because the Mainstream Media paints them as such without facts just smearing and character assassination. Hint: Media Matters is full of lying sacks of skin.

I don't think Our Lord is pulling for BO, btw.

scum

OUR LORD? Really?!!? Wow…

Mary Sue

That was Kershaw's idea, not mine…

Viet Vet

I think there is something to your theory. It's not anything caused by the GOP however, as they are only trying to lean back towards the constitution (which necessarily means they are left of the constitution, but not left of Lenin like the opposing party). Consider that Geoge Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, John Q. Adams, et al would be considered extremists to many today, especially leftists. The problem therefore is the contemporary public's lack of knowledge of the constitution.

The proper definition of 'right wingers' would be not the GOP, nor even conservatives (who are right there with the Founders and their theory of 'free enterprise, and 'limited government'), but would be Libertarians. Libertarians are the true 'right wingers' in today's political landscape.

objectivefactsmatter

"The problem therefore is the contemporary public's lack of knowledge of the constitution."

And its true critical importance to all that is great about the USA.

Cerise Rowan

I hope everyone watching the latest crop of campaign advertisements gets it… I've never seen anything as repellent as the old folks cussing (I'd thought the hitler youth song and the virgin voting set new lows).
It is worse than I had thought and I did not think higlty of them before.
If they'd had the GW Bush media treatment, they wouldn't have lasted two years.

Loyal Achates

Isn't this exactly what you all said in '08? And what the Dems were saying in '04?

Truth is, the polls are basically accurate. Obviously, they have a margin of error, but when they consistently show one candidate ahead (in this case, Obama) it's a pretty good sign he's going to win.

Romney COULD win, of course, but no matter who wins it's going to be pretty close.

Mary Sue

some polls are more accurate than others. Some have been blatantly wrong, but it depends. THough maybe not of their own fault but of the respondents.

Viet Vet

Some pollsters like Rassmusen are fairly accurate, but the record over the last several elections shows many to be very bad. No we weren't saying this in '08. Rassmussen was the most accurate in '08 predicting Obama's victory within I think one point.

Seems like the dem pollster's predictions on the Scott Walker recall were off by 10 points. They were obviously tryng to achieve a result rather than an accurate picture of the electorate's predilections.

Loyal Achates

Link, please!

banastre tarleton

OBAMA IS GOING TO WIN AT LEAST 290 ECVs BY WINNING ALL SWING STATES OUTSIDE OF THE OLE SOUTH ON NARROW MARGINS …if you think otherwise , you are truly deluding yourself

Ricky Michael

Ok, then please explain why he recently purchased a new home in Hawaii? Must be because he thinks he might need one, real soon.

Kershaw

You republicans come up with the silliest reasons….Almost like arguing with children.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

Yes, buying a home is a silly thing to even remember.

BLJ

You are the master deluder my friend.

Mary Sue

you fail to take into account the possibility that people don't wanna sound like racists when polled so they say they voted obama when they didn't. Who knows how many people do that?

deprogrammer

So you're admitting the rights best hope are closet racists? You have to be careful as a good FPMer the more you post the more likely you are to let slip the truth.

Gislef

No, she's saying that people who aren't racists don't want to be construed as racists by speaking out against a black President.

True racists don't give a damn what they think or who knows it.

Reading is your friend.

Mary Sue

deprogrammer doesn't have the best of reading comprehension skills.

Viet Vet

He doesn't have the best thinking skills, as determined as well by another comment he made on this thread. Put he is a well programmed little commie.

Mary Sue

that too. Ironic that a guy that's immersed in the cultish grape koolaid 24/7 has named himself 'deprogrammer' XD

Mary Sue

what on earth does racism have to do with this? Can't it just be that, oh, I don't know, he's as bad as Jimmy Carter, who was thrown out on his ASS, ever was? Were you even alive during the Carter years? Lots of people were, and they VOTE. If they saw the repeat performance and they're not completely senile/insane/burned out from the drugs, they'll kick out Obama too.

It's racist to vote FOR Obama simply because he is black, FYI and BTW.

scum

Interesting that you decry the Carter years, without reference to Tricky Dick. Wow……

Viet Vet

LOL…why would anyone even think of Richard Nixon when describing the futility of the Karter years? Carter's tenure is known for it's awful economics record (every category), and foreign policy debacles.

In Comparison, Nixon had an average to decent economy, ended the war in Viet Nam with a free South Viet Nam, kept the Soviet Union at bay, and opened up dialog with China. That he stepped down over the Watergate affair doesn't delete from history the achievements of his tenure.

objectivefactsmatter

M. scum is just illustrating for us the results of "graduating" from typical American schools these days.

Mary Sue

Nixon was pretty bad, this I will not deny. However, Tricky Dick is outside my memory. Carter I remember very well. But Carter's administration matches up very well with this one in terms of history repeating itself. Are you trying to argue that maybe Obama will be impeached like they were going to do to Nixon until he resigned?

objectivefactsmatter

"Nixon was pretty bad"

But not relevant to the context of the thread until this moron scum showed up.

Viet Vet

Nixon's great transgression was his successful prosecution of commie spy Alger Hiss in 1949-50. Alger Hiss was a communist Icon, and still is to American communists. I remember well when I was in HS and Nixon was Ike's VP, how the media admonished Nixon for being anti-communist. I had little interest in politics then, and had no idea yet about the media's leftism, but it was so oblique I was still struck and perplexed by this. So communist sypathizers including the media had a grudge for Nixon. Watergate; Woodward and Burnstein, were payback to Nixon for prosecuting Alger Hiss.

Viet Vet

Political chicanery had been going on since Jefferson's acolytes did it to John Adams. Andrew Jackson was big on it. LBJ for example, had the FBI bug Goldwater's campaign plane. Although the smoking gun tape exonerates Nixon on knowing about the chicanery, he did decide to try to cover it up. It was house republicans who went to Nixon and told him if he didn't resign, they would vote to impeach him. Compare that with the way the democrappers circled the wagons for Klinton. Remember, Klinton was impeached for suborning perjury in the Paula Jones suit, not what the left and their media have propagandized as beomg about his having sex in the WH with an intern.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

It's easy to decry the carter years, he was totally incompetent and life under his administration was miserable.

I remember waiting in gas lines.

Viet Vet

Obummer was simply Karter's second term.

Ricky Michael

Obumer will lose. Why? It is sooo very hard to run with his record. The one thing he has done right in 4 years was kill UBL. Then the next best is Obamacare, uh–oh, now we got a huge problem. Country broke, Lets fix it, let's raise taxes. Highest unemployment rate for a sitting president since FDR. And, this does count not all the people who have just given up trying to find work or taken part time work, now being "under-employed." The voting booths will be filled with a vengeance against him.

His toast will be brunt so bad on Tuesday you would not know what it was to start with.

The most entertaining part is the polsters will be exposed for what they are, BIASED.

trickyblain

So — regardless of the outcome — if a very close election, Ricky, will you be on here Wednesday morning apologizing to the pollsters?

Ricky Michael

Sure, I may be a Right Wing Nut Job, but I am no coward. I will face the music when I need to. I expect the same fom you sir. You will hear from me.

Ricky Michael

I am still here and ready to face your music. Talk to you Weds.

Ricky Michael

As promised I am right here. Glorious victory, congratulations.

Toss one back on me today.

Comrade Ricky.

kershaw

So hard to run with his record? Hmmm, that must be why he is leading in the polls. The same polls that you people were giddy over after the first debate. I wish you folks will just get on some more right-leaning publications and read the posts. And then look at how pathetic you guys are! IT IS YOUR MESSAGE that is flawed. I am sure Romney is a good man who could probably be a good POTUS but you rightwing nut jobs forced him to take up your extreme and sickening positions to get the nomination. Next time I think a candidate will run as an Independent because the GOP brand is dying a slow death. That is my hope anyway.

Mary Sue

extreme and sickening positions? Seriously? Really? Come on.

trickyblain

You're right. To be "extreme and sickening positions" he'd actually have to have "positions." He doesn't. At least ones that are consistent from audience-to-audience.

deprogrammer

Which is why I don't think Romney is a "good man" or would make a good president. His beliefs are tactical. This is the kind of thing good FPMers whine about Obama doing. Not very consistent but also not a surprise coming from FPMers.

Mary Sue

he may be "tactical" but that's still 100% better than anything Obama has to offer, which is negative help.

objectivefactsmatter

"You're right. To be "extreme and sickening positions" he'd actually have to have "positions."

Make up your mind, psycho.

trickyblain

What?

Ricky Michael

It depends on whose poll you look at. Polsters have a bias. It matters where they choose to take their polls and how their questions are worded, and a number of other things. The classic example of incorrect polling was the Bush-Gore election when they forecast a win in Florida for Gore.

I got more than a few giggles over that one.

Here is the thing, even if Obama does take the win, I will survive just fine. I may be a Right Wing Country Bumpkin, but I am a smart one. I have done well inspite of Obama's policies. I could have retired already if he had lost.

objectivefactsmatter

"It depends on whose poll you look at. Polsters have a bias. It matters where they choose to take their polls and how their questions are worded, and a number of other things. The classic example of incorrect polling was the Bush-Gore election when they forecast a win in Florida for Gore."

You're talking way over their heads. It's been spelled out for them before.

Ricky Michael

Maybe so, the problem lies with being unwilling to look at things objectively. This is what I see happening, keep in mind I live in Texas, a conservative state. There are a vast multitude of people who do not get polled. The quietly go about their lives without comment or fanfare. But, they have been greatly affected by the economics of our country. The buying power they had while Bush was president has been eroded during Obama’s term. Tomorrow, the voting booths will be filled with anger against Obama. Will it be enough to displace him, we’ll have to wait and see, I suspect it will be an overwhelming rejection of his Administration. IMO, the polls are clearly just wishful thinking from a liberal media who will not acknowledge the way things really are. It is not the dense population centers that rule who wins an election. It is the heartland, they pick our leaders. Win over them and you take the White House.

BS77

Polls polls and more polls suggesting the outcome for the gullible proletarians…..the billion dollar campaigns, the bluster and baloney……good it will soon be over. The lib stream media has all but declared the winner weeks ago…….

Maxie

Vote Fraud will win it for Oblunder if it's close.

Viet Vet

Sadly that is true.

Ricky Michael

Yes, but we will see. People are smarter than they give them credit for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

And tired of they calculated way they are taking everything we cherish away from us.

Ricky Michael

My trust in the liberal media has vanished years ago, during Billy Clinton. I will watch tomorrow night with great interest. One thing I know for certain, there will be a lot of people who are disappointed on Weds, which ones those are is debatable.

There still remains a significant number of people who are co-dependant on government. Those are the ones who must be out voted.

Viet Vet

Yep, I saw that GOP brand dying in the 2010 midterms…NOT…lol. I think that GOP brand (well actually the Tea Party brand) give the commiecrap brand a real old fashioned asskicking just two years ago.

Maybe Kershaw is really Rip Van Winkle.

Viet Vet

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http://facebook LauraThompson

The word I have read is that Obama had to be told point blank that he had to be talked into the kill of OBL and that he was essentially forced to make that decision. Now granted, that is something I have read somewhere on the internet, but frankly since my opinion of him is so low, I don't doubt it one little bit. My feeling is that it was Seal Team Six that took the lead.

Viet Vet

Obummer is in league with the Muslim Brotherhood. Klinton was an appeaser of Islamic terrorism. That led to the attack on the WTC on 9/11/01. bin Laden even said that in an interview. Klinton also had several opportunities to get bin Laden, from the Sudan, but also the Seals had him dead to rights on one occasion, all they needed was the go ahead from Klinton. Bill got wind of it and went and hid so he couldn't take the call…and the chance went by the way. This was disclosed by Klinton's Natl Security Advisor, Sandy Berger (who later got the name Burglar, after he stole documents from the Natl Archives and destoryed them…for which he received a slap on the wrist).

Mary Sue

I remember seeing that. I also remember Osama's Letter to the United States, where he claims point blank that he won't be satisfied with anything less than the full conversion to Islam of North America. He also goes on about the usual tripe (i.e., support for Israel, "colonialism", capitalism, etc), but the first thing he says is he wants us all to be Islam.

Viet Vet

The Islamists have said that they want to rule the world by 2030. In fact some years ago when they were rioting in europe, burning vehicles and general mayhem, they were wearing T-shirts that said: 2030 then we rule.

Ricky Michael

I have read the same things. I suspect that Leon P. was the driving force. IMO, Mr. OB had no choice but the say go, if he didn’t and it got out, then……

Lucifer Dye

What's "brunt" toast? Must be the stuff you eat while drinking the Repugnant Kool-Aid.

Ricky Michael

That sir, was my very best Dick Morris imitation. The difference between he an I is that he gets paid to tell you his malarky and you get mine for free.

the united states if finished if obummer jerk wins he has proven so many times where his loyalty lies and it is with the racist panthers , rev wright the racist jew hating farhakhaun which proves his intent and the intent of many others is to turn this into a black muslim nation

deprogrammer

Yes, I remember when he did the "black power" fist at his first state of the union address. Then when he federalised public schools and brought in those teachers from the Nation of Islam. Oh, wait he never did anything even remotely like that.
Also, as a hint when trying to paint Obama as a muslim don't bring up his former MINISTER. You know REVEREND Wright. Yeesh, the good FPMers that are coming out of indoctrination are real lightweights. They need to step up training.

objectivefactsmatter

"Also, as a hint when trying to paint Obama as a muslim don't bring up his former MINISTER. You know REVEREND Wright. Yeesh, the good FPMers that are coming out of indoctrination are real lightweights. They need to step up training."

Clueless moron, politicians lie and so do Muslims, as a matter of doctrine. There is no question that by Islamic definition, Obama is a Muslim. The only question is whether his supposed "Christian conversion" was sincere. Evidence says no.

But don't let any of the facts disturb you. Believe what pleases you. It worked for you this far in your life, so no need to change. Just keep buzzing around the web bothering people and life will go on regardless of what you say or do.

deprogrammer

So Obama is, by Islamic definition a muslim, eh? Let's take a look at the 5 Pillars of Islam:
1) the shahada (Islamic creed): He would have had to profess this so provide documentation of Obama saying the exact phrase with the intent of conversion.
2) daily prayers (salat): This should be easy. After all prayers are 5 times a day so their have been hundreds, if not thousands of chances, to "catch" him praying. So documentation of this should be easy.
3) almsgiving (zakāt): By the standards of giving to charity alone Mitt Romney would be muslim so by itself this isn't really proof.
4) fasting during Ramadan (sawm): Well, the White House has traditionally celebrated the breaking of the fast – this was done by Bush the lesser for example. That doesn't prove observance of the fast itself though. So start digging for documentation of the fast. A leak from the White House kitchen or some such would be a good start.
5) the pilgrimage to Mecca (hajj) at least once in a lifetime: Merely going isn't enough the pilgrimage itself is quit an involved process and carried out in the open so a steel trap mind like yours should have no problem digging up the details.

I know you'll think this unfair but in the reality based community this is normal. It's called proof or evidence and is a necessary step in supporting what you say. I know that's confusing and scary for a good FPMer but if you want to be an adult you're going to have to start somewhere.

Put up or shut.

objectivefactsmatter

"It's called proof or evidence"

Clueless moron, do you deny that Obama was born to a Muslim father who declared him to be Muslim, and that he was declared Muslim for his citizenship residency in Indonesia?

All of your other copy and paste BS is meaningless since analysis is most of the equation once the relevant facts are discovered, and you have none of that. Who hasn't heard of the 5 pillars, or the "fact" that "Islam is a religion of peace?"

You are clearly another liberal tool who drank all the Kool-Aid he could get.

Viet Vet

He and Hillary Klinton are both products and acolytes of Chicago Marxist Saul Alinsky, notwithstanding that Obum was only 9 at Saul's death. Alinsky left the American Marxist's Bible, 'Rules for Radicals'. Hillary's thesis was on extolling the "virtues" of Saul Alinsky. Both Obum's muslim leanings and his profound marxism, coupled with his hate of the U.S. and its Constitution should have prevented his becoming president, but of course he had the old sycophant "media" providing cover for him.

Viet Vet

I had to split my message because it was too long. The above post is only the second part. The first part was deledted by the administrator for very unknown reasons.

ADMINSTRATOR PLEASE REINSTALL THE PART YOU DELETED.

objectivefactsmatter

"The above post is only the second part. The first part was deledted by the administrator"

Somehow I doubt you're going to tell me that Obama is not a Muslim because no liberal ever spotted him observing the "5 pillars of Islam."

Viet Vet

Tried to reiterate my previous post where I documented Obummer's being a muslim, but it was again deleged by the dimwitted administrator.

Mary Sue

eh, they do that periodically to everybody, holding random posts for "approval". I imagine it is to deter spam, as I have seen it been done when I've done a lot of posting in a short period of time.

dennis metz

why would any one with a decent job and pays taxes vote for obummer? why would any white or non black vote for obummer or a democrap that is gonna tax them more and make their homes even more worthless? the only way any non black should vote for a muslim obummer is they are afraid of being labled racist if they dont prove they are not by voting for obummer

Mary Sue

that's the problem. Too many people DON'T have a decent job or pay taxes.

People with a decent job would vote for Obama if they drank the koolaid and think gay marriage is more important than trillion dollar deficits, because they have been mostly shielded from the worst effects of the terrible economy. (Not that gay marriage is a federal issue at all this year, but you'd be surprised what some of these koolaid drinkers use as a basis for voting for people).

trickyblain

Who was the last Republican president that did anything (expect increase) deficits?

objectivefactsmatter

"Who was the last Republican president that did anything (expect [except?] increase) deficits?"

George Bush.

deprogrammer

Objectivefactsmatter is here all weeks folks. Keep it up kid and your comedy stylings to take you far.

objectivefactsmatter

Still crying over your last spanking I see.

Viet Vet

Take your pick, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush. G.W. Bush would be the last one. Don't we wish we could have GW's robust economy again. Low unemployment Rate, decent growth rate, low inflation, low fed income taxes, decent middle class income, etc. Considering that GW was hit with the 9/11 attack and two major huricanes, that was pretty spectacular. His across the board tax cuts and strong leadership held the economy together where it otherwise could have tanked. But Karter had planted the seeds (CRA…forced subprime lending) and Klinton had put it on steroids, with the force of the fed government behind it, which ended up causing a housing bubble that burst in 2008. Of course the 9/11 hit was a result of Klinton's 8 years of appeasement of Islamic terrorism, as documented in an earlier post above.

Mary Sue

define "anything" because anything is anything. What would you expect to be "anything" that is tangible and desirable for a president to do?

Ghostwriter

I've got a question. With his failed record,why would ANYONE,black,white,red,brown,or any other race with a functioning brain and not with a ideological bent would want to re-elect President Obama?

David G.

Ghostwriter – you assume that most people vote based on the facts. Unfortunately, that is rarely the case. I just hope enough people that use their brain instead of being sheep get out and vote. If that happens, we can finally be done with this totalitarian, egomaniacal, Jew-hating, America-hating fool.

Carlos

Well said, David. I agree with ALL that you said. "Thinking" people are rare, unfortunately.

http://www.resonoelusono.com/Platform.htm Alexander Gofen

It is sad to observe the naivete if not stupidity of Americans – Romney-bots, replicating the same stupidity of MacCain-bots in 2008. In both cases they follow the treasonous party line as though the best way to defeat the opponent – the obvious cardsharper is … that we all go and gamble with him!

But conscious citizens do not gamble with a cardsharper naively hoping to win… They know that they would be defeated – and then would have to swallow their defeat. After all, they legitimized the gamble by their own agreement to play with the cardsharper! The conscious citizens ARREST the cardsharper instead of gambling with him…

Shame on you, America…

objectivefactsmatter

"It is sad to observe the naivete if not stupidity of Americans – Romney-bots, replicating the same stupidity of MacCain-bots in 2008"

That's an ironic statement. Given the choices, how can you make the case for voting for Obama? Or do you want to vote for none of the above?

Look in the mirror, you're projecting your own stupidity on to your emotionally-selected enemies. Please summarize the treason you observed from Romney or McCain. This ought to be good. You do know what treason is, don't you?

http://www.resonoelusono.com/Platform.htm Alexander Gofen

McCain knew that a person born to a non-US-citizen father cannot possibly be the natural born, yet McCain chose to ignore the Constitution, playing a con candidate set to lose.

Romney knows all that McCain knew plus much more, namely that the opponent is an identity thief, forger and fraud, with all docs counterfeit. Yet Romney chose to ignore the Constitution, and to ignore even the basic law and order, playing a con candidate set to lose. Both betrayed their duty, playing for their own defeat.

This is not a legitimate election. It is a sham election and it is just humiliating to take part in this farce. The duty of conscious citizens is to uphold the constitution rather than to cooperate with the enemies destroying it.

objectivefactsmatter

"This is not a legitimate election. It is a sham election and it is just humiliating to take part in this farce. The duty of conscious citizens is to uphold the constitution rather than to cooperate with the enemies destroying it."

So you are guilty of treason for not taking effective action as well.

http://www.resonoelusono.com/Platform.htm Alexander Gofen

No, I am taking all legal actions within my means to expose the truth and to uphold the constitution. It is McCain and Romney who do all they can to obfuscate the truth and to violate the constitution.

objectivefactsmatter

How do you know they have or had enough evidence to do this? If you have access to this evidence, so do many others. Why haven't they taken action?

Answer: they have, and the case is not as strong as we'd wish.

Your accusations against the Republican candidates are silly. That is the bottom line on your charge of treason, and you throwing the word around cheapens it for when it is really needed. Words used to have more precise meanings.

objectivefactsmatter

"No, I am taking all legal actions within my means to expose the truth and to uphold the constitution."

If your evidence was as strong as you imagine, you'd have no trouble finding a lawyer to work with you within your means, and to get donations.

http://www.resonoelusono.com/Platform.htm Alexander Gofen

The evidence what the Natural Born means has been available for 200 years up to the 2008 Sen. Res 511 on McCain. The euphemism "African" for race was introduced 20 years later after 1961. Only blind cannot see the cheap forgery of the 4/27/2011 White House "document". Yes, I and America are blessed to have such a lawyer, who is Attorney Dr. Taitz.

objectivefactsmatter

"I and America are blessed to have such a lawyer, who is Attorney Dr. Taitz."

Great, Focus more coherently on the salient facts of your case and stop attacking others for the alleged widespread conspiracy to commit treason. If you want to solicit support, you'll still do better following that advice rather than using the shotgun approach to making accusations.

scum

Obama enjoys genealogical roots to 1630s Jamestown, which is earlier than 90% of all Americans. John McCain wasn't born in America (nor was George Romney). There is no formal definition of a 'natural-born American', so stop with the blather…

The problem is more with feeling than thinking. People go with their "gut" more than their "brain"and that's where prejudice also resides.

scum

That's why Florida might vote for Romney, despite it being against their rational interest.

Mary Sue

what, you mean the old folks in God's waiting room are just like those old folks in that Michael Moore commercial?

objectivefactsmatter

"That's why Florida might vote for Romney, despite it being against their rational interest."

Funny. What do you think of Allen West?

11bravo

Hey Dan, Tell us something we don't know. What is this a slow newsday or writers block? This is only the 100+ article on scewed polls "This week!". C'mon man-get with it.

Western Spirit

Prejudice drummed up by a broken culture and taught, very carefully taught, to our children. Which means when the old folks die off we'll become a totalitarian state run by deluded, disgusting madmen, that may come sooner rather than later.

Read Shlomo and Amusing's posts for an example.

Maxie

What the polls don't tell you is the weight of Vote Fraud which is, typically, all MarxiCrat. I recall a Dem functionary on TV years back who boasted proudly that they could steal any close election. That was proved in MN with the "election" of Al Franken. There are already reports of rigged voting machines that record a Romney vote that comes out for Obama. Vote fraud in this election will be huge and significant. If Obozo wins it will rest heavily on Vote Fraud. A few districts in the swing states are all that's needed to put the Fraudster-in-Chief back in as d!ctat0r-in-chief.

Viet Vet

Exactly, the marxicrats pushed through 'Motor Voter' years ago, then proceeded to lobby to allow illegals to get drivers licenses. A few years ago they pushed through the 'Provisionary Ballot', which allows people to vote in any precinct they want, which of course means they can vote as many times as they want. It's a law made to order for a political party invested in voter fraud. We already know empirically that the democraps bus people, many times illegals, around to various polling places.

fanlad

Obama hasn't stopped running for reelection since 2008. that 's a problem. That is the problem. And the American people are waking up.

Rajput

US support for the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is evil both in mind and intent. Despite the many deaths of US citizens as a direct result of that country's actions, the only reason that I can see why US keeps bankrolling Pakistan is its hatred for Indians and Hindus knows no bounds. US is using this terrorist state to kill innocent man, women and children in India. So I'm thinking, the only way this evil support by an evil nation can stop is if the evil sponsoring country itself becomes bankrupt and its military might neutered. So as an Indian (we will loose either way, even if Romney wins), I think Obama will bring about US's downfall sooner than Romeny's efforts (that US's downfall is inevitable is beyond doubt anyway), therefore I wish the candidate with Islamic sympathies the best of luck and pray to the many Gods at our disposal, to bring about his stupendous victory.

Mary Sue

I don't think USA hates India, if it did why would it outsource a ton of customer service phone stuff and telemarketers there?

Jonathan

For slave rates?

Mary Sue

If they wanted that they could just outsource to China instead.

Ghostwriter

Well,Rajput. I don't think that's fair to say. There are those in the government who still think Pakistan is a reliable ally in spite of everything. Most Americans are beginning to have their doubts.

Hey Crypticguise, how's that humble pie tasting? You might try washing it down with the Repugnant Kool-Aid flavor of the day.

Dwee

Any sane person could see as clear as moonbeams that Obama's entire candidacy was a classic case of cult formation. From the one word slogans continually repeated to his already half brain dead constituency to the modulation of his voice. That is the scary part. Perhaps slightly scarier is he started believing his own cult speak.

That people are so gullible and manipulatable is creepy but the entire 4 years has been creepy. Starting with him attacking that white policeman for being racist before he knew the facts to the freakish coverup of a Diplomat's murder. Creepy. That the liberal press is still brainwashed by their cult master, icky icky creepy. (Which btw is typical, the more one sacrifices of oneself to the cult, the harder it is to be deprogrammed.) Ech.