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10-01-2012 06:43 PM

P-Ride

I have - it's in the post! Just curious as to how others think the SL may differ from my Force.. I hear mixed things - all good though!

Ok. Of all the interests I've developed, snowboarding gear is by far the most complex. There are so many variables to consider!

Well I'm struggling to find a bad word said about the SLs, so now's not a bad time to announce that a pair are in the post to me now! It's a bonus that the gunmetal grey will fit in perfect with both my boards!

I'm still slightly perplexed as to which roles the Force and SL will each be better at, but have little doubt that finding out - in conjunction with my three boards - will be great fun!

If anyone fancies contrasting their experiences of Force and SL; and what they think the SL will be better/worst at, I'd be interested to hear!

dude...get what ever the fuck tickles your fancy. Someone will always have a negative remark. it comes down to personal preference. You have to make some choices like these on your own because you're not going to know what suits you personally until you learn and make choices on your own. Letting someone else chose for you, you're never going to be able to maximize what's right for you

10-01-2012 06:02 PM

P-Ride

Ok. Of all the interests I've developed, snowboarding gear is by far the most complex. There are so many variables to consider!

Well I'm struggling to find a bad word said about the SLs, so now's not a bad time to announce that a pair are in the post to me now! It's a bonus that the gunmetal grey will fit in perfect with both my boards!

I'm still slightly perplexed as to which roles the Force and SL will each be better at, but have little doubt that finding out - in conjunction with my three boards - will be great fun!

If anyone fancies contrasting their experiences of Force and SL; and what they think the SL will be better/worst at, I'd be interested to hear!

Ok, so the SL is lighter and looser than the Force? Interesting. Some say the base-plate is stiffer than the Force, although the high-back looser?

Either way, most seem to agree that it is responsive - which is what I'm looking to put into this setup.

SL Baseplate is stiffer than the Atlas but still softer than the Force. The Atlas is my favorite binding ever, I'm thinking the SL is a good difference split between weight/response/versatility in the Union line.

I've never ridden the SL, but the Atlas is my favorite binding ever.

Also, this season and last season's SL is based on the Atlas, so you'll get the same heel dampening as the baseplates have the same design.

09-30-2012 05:51 PM

P-Ride

Ok, so the SL is lighter and looser than the Force? Interesting. Some say the base-plate is stiffer than the Force, although the high-back looser?

Either way, most seem to agree that it is responsive - which is what I'm looking to put into this setup.

Not keen on their range of boards though. You're right, I could have tried one similar though - although managed to get this purchase right I think.

They do, however, carry a reasonable range of Union bindings. Fairly confident in the SL being a great purchase though. The Force is awesome and I hear even better things about SL; and a stiffer pair makes sense for powder!

SL's (Super Light) are MC's built with normal Union materials and aren't $400.

The Force is built on our original baseplate, which is a little beefier than what the above are built on, the Atlas baseplate. When we built the Atlas, goal was to update the Force with increased mobility and to lighten it up. By taking away some of the weight out of the Atlas, it loosed it up a tad and the Force baseplate is still our most responsive.

Hoped that helped Kevin.

09-30-2012 06:17 AM

P-Ride

Yup, I'm aware! That's where I go most weeks.

Not keen on their range of boards though. You're right, I could have tried one similar though - although managed to get this purchase right I think.

They do, however, carry a reasonable range of Union bindings. Fairly confident in the SL being a great purchase though. The Force is awesome and I hear even better things about SL; and a stiffer pair makes sense for powder!

09-29-2012 09:54 PM

cav0011

P-Ride, I know it is too late now but it might not be too late for the bindings. If you go to sno-zone in milton keynes there is a snowboard shop in there that lets you demo stuff to include bindings, for free. If you buy any of it you can take the cost of the indoor session you paid for off the price of the item.

I havnt lived in the UK for a few years but it is super easy to get a trial. You couldve just tested any cambered board in the 150-160 range and seen how it held an edge and if you enjoyed how playful it was.

Hey guys, just to say - I took my 156 cambered Live for its first spin yesterday!

Love it! Firstly, I can definitely see what you mean about the loss of 'stopping power' compared to a longer board.. If I was going down a particularly steep/treacherous run, I'd be more trusting of my 161cm camber to hold an edge..

But this board is very manoeuvrable and so springy/responsive! Ollieing is much more dramatic than with my reverse camber board. On one run I kinda scared myself on a kicker, jumping much higher than I have on my other board to date - managed to land good though!

Speculatively, 153 may well have been too short; and this has delivered in every way I wanted - so thanks for clarifying how and why the difference may have mattered!

I'm going into the new season with what feels like a great quiver. Picking up a pair of Union SLs so will enjoy mixing/matching them and the Forces with all three boards and learning more!

If you're going to go Union, get Atlas. The SL's will provide almost no heel dampening. Its a frame shape thing. The Atlas frame does more for dampening. Then personally I'd franken them with some Burton or Ride toe straps and buckles.

09-29-2012 07:57 PM

P-Ride

Hey guys, just to say - I took my 156 cambered Live for its first spin yesterday!

Love it! Firstly, I can definitely see what you mean about the loss of 'stopping power' compared to a longer board.. If I was going down a particularly steep/treacherous run, I'd be more trusting of my 161cm camber to hold an edge..

But this board is very manoeuvrable and so springy/responsive! Ollieing is much more dramatic than with my reverse camber board. On one run I kinda scared myself on a kicker, jumping much higher than I have on my other board to date - managed to land good though!

Speculatively, 153 may well have been too short; and this has delivered in every way I wanted - so thanks for clarifying how and why the difference may have mattered!

I'm going into the new season with what feels like a great quiver. Picking up a pair of Union SLs so will enjoy mixing/matching them and the Forces with all three boards and learning more!

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