Battle Hymn Of The Republic and the Gettysburg Address

The Gettysburg Address

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate — we can not consecrate — we can not hallow — this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us — that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion — that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain — that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom — and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

Battle Hymn of the Republic

This was sent to me by a friend.And she was right.It “definitely sent a few shivers up my spine.”

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A very interesting take on why Obama won this election. This author is a VERY conservative Christian who I am fairly familiar with. His theory makes sense especially if you share his worldview (that man is inherently sinful and must struggle against that nature). Take it for what it is worth…

Does anyone here know anyone who would have given their info? If I had an alter ego with separate emails, phones etc I might do it just to see what is going to happen with it. I am not confident in the securtiy of the info at this point to risk it.

This whole tape thing has me a little whacky. Just when I give up on it, something happens that waters that tiny little seed of hope that I thought had died. Like why wouldn’t Korir take the convenient “out” of having his WordPress site shut down but be persistant in getting his message out? Why does it seem that he is a hunted guy? I am feeling very conflicted about this whole thing…

So far I have not received any emails but thanks for the warning, RS, I wll keep my eye out for them.

Someone mentioned yesterday that Google was scrubbing conservative sites – can someone who knows something about this elaborate for me or provide links. This is very suspicious to me…

Some of my fellow members of the Sound of the Rockies Championship Chorus circulated this fabulous rendition of the Battle Hymn back in the spring of this year. We perform numerous patriotic songs including the Armed Forces Medley. Our audiences are ask to stand when their respection branch is sang. It is always a highlight of one of our concerts. We have vets in our group that salute when their branch comes up.

I am afraid that patriotism is now and will be very important in holding our country together with the BO regime taking control. The burden of patriotism now takes on a different meaning now that we may be facing a neighbor or even a soldier than we may percieve as the enemy. The civil war was as ugly as it gets (brother against brother). BO raises this as a potential tactic to achieve power. Those with blinders on are walking us into a place worse than the civil war. It was actually easier to identify the enemy in the civil war. This is as bad as trying to identify a terrorist in an arab country. If this scares you, it should.

Rosetta – I agree that it will be interesting to see how O handles Iraq now. I wonder if he will make widely- known that 550 metric tons of yellow-cake uranium WERE found in Iraq and that maybe it was a good idea that we went in there – OK that WOULD be too much to expect – but one can hope…

And for what it is worth I agree with all you stated above, including your “Thank God for President Bush!” statement.

Hello All,
I have been a lurker, and now am out of the closet. I started this journey a couple of months back, a friend of ours was talking about bible coding Barack Obama and to the internet I went. That of course led to more sites and distrubing information about BO. I have been to hundreds of sites lost countless hours of sleep, been on the verge of a break down, and at times thought my heart was going to give out. I need a place to feel secure and a place to converse with others about the issues of the day. I am hoping that Rosettasister’s is a place where I can find both. With all the evil in the world and history itself has put fear in me and lack of trust in others. I was afraid to sign up at any site for fear of repercussions from anyone that might have access to my private information. I feel as though the internet community is being censored and if I was to say something that someone doesn’t agree with what would or could be done to me, I just don’t know anymore, I thought I use to live in a free country and now I am just not so sure.
Rosettasister I enjoy the music!!!! Do you like Van Morrison? I really like his song In the Mystic. Also the battle hymn of the rpublic brought tears to my eyes….

so true rosetta, like i tell all my anti war friends…….while al quada was giving us their best shot in iraq, Obama and democrats said we lost, wanted to turn in run, and instead, the rupublicans turned around and we gave them OUR best shot, and kicked the living sh!t outta them. How any respecting self american say that Democrats wanted us to win there, to me, is a bold face liar. But i’m sure, once again, republicans will do the heavy lifting and democrats will try and claim they were the ones.

Don’t look now but it looks like they are building a page to actually release the tape at http://africanpress.tripod.com/id28.html
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I hope your not foolish enough to give out your personal info

If you read my post yesterday, I confessed being a democrat until about 30 years ago and felt that the party left me. The many democrats that I know that still have the values that I grew up with are no longer in control of the Democratic Party. I respect Lieberman as well, but see Republicans like him as a part of the problem.

I know that some have warned you about me but please take those warnings with a grain of salt.

I started following the API story when WND posted a story about it. I think it was WND? When the API site was hacked and then closed, I began looking for follow up info and MS was the first place I posted via Google search. I quickly realized that the character of many of their members was not up to par with my personal standards and that’s why I chose to post on your site.

Rosettasister
Funny my hubby doesn’t get him either, but who cares about him. LOL He is a hard rock guy, I don’t get him!!
And another thing I wanted to mention I know all about the OTHER sites and how they interpret you. It is sad, some just trash each other without thinking, as though it is suppose to be comical, I find nothing funny about it. Issues about our country is what people should be focusing on and let go of petty issues about each other. I believe that there is good in all of us I just wish we would all take advantage it.

I sat and watched the video of the Battle Hymn of Republic last night and I tell you, between the graphics chosen and the song itself, it not only sent shivers up my spine, but done it as well and it also brought tears to my eyes. I passed it on to everyone I know who would undoubtedly enjoy it and feel the same way as the Founding Fathers did!! It was incredible!!!

I think a lot of keeping Lieberman in has to do with those excited that the dems still have a chance to get to 60. They werent ready to cut him yet before that was settled. Which in that case I would disagree with them..

But overall I am meh about the whole thing, even with a chairmanship he is still only one vote. Lets see how he plays under the Obama adminstration is my take on it.

From what I understand and please tell me if I am wrong, but Leo says the Birth Certificate issue is a smokescreen to the real issue, that at the instant of BO’s birth he was born with dual citizenship.

What I don’t understand is how come NO MSM, including FOX, did absolutely no follow up on
1) The AP copy of the school record while Obama was in Indonesia…that specifically says Indonesian Citizenship
2) The admission on Obama’s own annoying fight the smears website that stated his dual citizenship!

I bet you could ask 100 die hard Obama supporters about these things and 98 of them would know about either one of them! That is sad. I am at a point now where i will never vote again. This election was won by the media. Obama ran a brilliant campaign!? Brilliant in a sinister sort of way sure. He lied about EVERY association that was eventually brought up. When he was called on the lie he and the media told people that it wasn’t important and the blind continued to follow this man! Not to mention some of the more disturbing association that were totally ignored. Screamed racism when questioned. The media convinced many that it’s a smear to say anything negative about Obama EVEN if it’s true. It’s ridiculous. I’ve lost faith in our election process.

The deeper I get into this situation, the more I despair for the future of our country. We and others have proven beyond any conceivable doubt that Barack Obama does not meet the legal requirements to serve as President of the United States. Collectively, we’ve provided many man-months of research and forensic analysis, and the logic is irrefutable. What is the response from those on the other side? Well-reasoned refutation? Evidence (other than forgeries so bad that they’re insulting)? No, just name calling, cyber-attacks and a refusal to face the facts.
Today, on the “Mountain Sage” Blog, numerous comments were posted ridiculing African Press International and our defense of API. In particular, our reference to Chief Editor Korir’s trip to the UK was greeted with remarks such as “Also noted is this from the MarchReport article which is at the new API site: ‘All of this took place while Mr. Korir was en route from Norway to the UK regarding arrangements for release of the Michelle Obama Tapes.’ What? I thought he went to Canada?” and “I thought he was going to Canada?? Which is is??” [sic]
Mountain Sage is the blog that Mr. Korir alleges was involved in mass-spamming his old Word Press site, leading to its demise. See this from the old API site.
I posted the reply, “Canada is in the United Kingdom.” The thread then went dead. For the benefit of those ‘commentators,’ here’s a link to the Canada-United Kingdom Chamber of Commerce web site. Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, here I am, stuck in the middle of a constitutional crisis with you! And THESE are the people who presume to insult Mr. Korir’s intelligence and integrity. Puh-leeez! Get a geography book.
Today, we present a full-page ad run in the Washington Times Weekly on November 17, 2008 to educate the public on this issue and solicit support; a link to API’s new site, which is up-and-running despite the best efforts of the kool-aide drinkers, a look at the documentary “How Obama Got Elected,” and information on Article III of the Constitution and the Marbury v. Madison decision, which lay the foundation for the Supreme Court’s authority in this matter……

Hockeyfan – I agree – how brilliant is it to stay on message when that message is “HOPE.CHANGE.” and “Tax cuts for 95% of Americans.” That is all I ever heard him really talk about. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist – heck, my three year old could stay on that message “Mommy, I HOPE you will give me candy! CHANGE my diaper.” Jeez – give me a break.

The site claims that google search results are pulling her site on issues but they pull other sites claiming the exact same thing atlas shrugs does. I know googles algorhythm is insane and does block out those that artificially pump up hits. There are also many ways to fall out of hit results.

I would put more stake to her claim if she could point out multiple sites that google results dropped.. the fact you make a search and get the same info makes no sense if you are trying to censor out information.

it frustrates me so much that completely uniformed, blind Obama supporters cancelled our informed voters. I understand a far left voter going for Obama. I understand the reason behind blacks voting for him. I don’t agree with it but I can understand why they would. But any moderate or right leaning Obama supporter is simply mind boggling! What could have been their reason to vote for a COMPLETE unknown? Simply for change!? It’s like buying a used car that’s leaking oil and the salesman won’t let you look under the hood or test drive it. COMPLETELY illogical.

Sorry for ranting but this has frustrated throughout the entire election.

My fiancee asked why i won’t even listen to Obama and give him a chance. I said Obama lied about Rezko, Wright, Kahlid, ACORN and Ayers. That’s 5 lies just about associations. I asked her if i lied to her 5 times would she trust me? Of course she said no, but still voted for him anyway!

here is my take on ESQ and the dems as a whole. WMD’s were found in iraq, like the mustard gas shells that were burried, the nulcear components that were buried. There take on it, well, it wasnt a stockpile and they were there prior to 1991. Um…so…the fact is that, they werent suppose to have them at all. And to actually think that that they were the only ones there before the invasion is like catching your wife cheat on you, to actually think that the first time you caught her, was the first time it actually happened, is ignorant at best. Same thing with the site issue, well it was just once, question is, catching it just that once, how many times does just that one instance represent….

Thanks for the link Troy – I like Atlas Shrugs – I found it originally looking for info on the Birth Certificate issue. Was pretty convinced by the analysis on there that it was indeed a fake.

JonEsq – it seems to me that the person yesterday was right in that your mind is sealed tight as a drum. I don’t think it is “obvious” that you hang out at those conservative websites – nothing you have ever said would have lead me to believe that about you – sorry.

Slider – don’t forget the 550 metric tons of yellow cake uranium that was found in IRAQ that was delivered to Canada in July. This discovery was kept a secret in order to keep the bad guys from trying to get it back. When the news of this came out it got almost NO COVERAGE.

If anyone want the link to the info on the YCU – I will find it and post again.

Is it just me, but my computer has been acting crazy. As I tried to post that last post this came up on my screen 1st time ever.

Server Maintenance
Your server is going through a few minutes of routine maintenance. Please don’t touch your browser for a few minutes.

What do I do?

If you were posting a comment or making a post on your blog then do not press BACK on your browser. Wait 5 minutes and press the refresh icon on your browser. Your comment or post will be sent as normal.
If you are browsing a blog here just wait a few moments and hit refresh. The page you were expecting will appear.

We need to really do some reasearch and see If this 100% true; I say boycott Google and their programs,…chrome, picassa etc. contact them and let them know exactly why.
We need to stand up now before it really gets ugly.

ESQ, i dont go to liberal places just like i dont go to hard right wing christian web places, i like to get my info from middle ground places. liberals to me, have no credibility because there thinking is so ass backwards it makes me sick

especially since they seem to think the own the monopoly on being compasionate and for civil liberaties. bullsh!t i say, i’ve been on the daily kos before, they can take their “superior, progress” intellect and cram it up the cram hole. The same group of peole who spit on my dad when he came home from vietnam. dont get me started, the only thing more predicable then the sun coming up, i a liberal point of view

Leo Donofrio is right, everybody needs to just forget about the birth certificate issue….It’s a mute point….Obama may produce a perfectly good BC or the best forgery that money can buy and that would be the end of all the lawsuits….As Leo has pointed out, it doesn’t matter if Obama was born in the Oval Office and poops red, white and blue, he was a DUAL CITIZEN AT BIRTH and that simply won’t cut it….It means that he is not a natural BORN citizen AT BIRTH!!!

What I was pointing you too was a simple interview between him and John Ziegler. The guy who is behind that zogby poll. I think both sides can find the interview humorous especially towards the end when Ziegler tells Silver more than once to f@#$ off.

fivethirtyeight though is nowhere near daily kos. They are mainly statistical driven. But I do understand they do have a leaning bias.

This has been flying under the radar. Read the MSNBC article and check the truthorfiction.com site. The TorF version is shown below. This event is factual. I have an increased respect for President Bush. He has taken the heat of being called a liar and a war monger for 5 years while he kept his silence to protect the people of the world. This is truly a display of selfless honor.

On July 5, 2008, the Associated Press (AP) released a story titled: Secret U.S. mission hauls uranium from Iraq.

The opening paragraph is as follows:

The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein’s nuclear program a huge stockpile of concentrated natural uranium reached a Canadian port Saturday to complete a secret U.S. operation that included a two week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage crossing two oceans.

See anything wrong with this picture? We have been hearing from the far-left for more than five years how, Bush lied. Somehow, that slogan loses its credibility now that 550 metric tons of Saddam’s yellowcake, used for nuclear weapon enrichment, has been discovered and shipped to Canada for its new use as nuclear energy.

It appears that American troops found the 550 metric tons of uranium in 2003 after invading Iraq. They had to sit on this information and the uranium itself, for fear of terrorists attempting to steal it. It was guarded and kept safe by our military in a 23,000-acre site with large sand beams surrounding the site.

This is vindication for the Bush administration, having been attacked mercilessly by the liberal media and the far-left pundits on the blogosphere.. Now that it is proven that President Bush did not lie about Saddam’s nuclear ambitions, one would think the mainstream media would report the story. Once the AP released t he story, the mainstream media should have picked it up and broadcast it worldwide.

ESQ,
When you visit sites like this one, please keep in mind that most people here are VERY upset at what has taken place during the election cycle….You are on the other side of the fence and therefore happy as a lark, but not so for the rest of us….All I’m saying is keep that in mind when you address us.

I have seen the vilest slander, porn, virus sites and even phishing sites last for months/years on Tripod, I have experience trying to get Tripod to remove sites, and believe me it takes an act of God.

But African Press is down in 3 days.

I just emailed Korir and told him he has no hope of hosting his site on an American server, Obama now has him on the radar.

Not in defense of anyone, but is it odd that API site keeps going down? There are hundreds of sites bashing Obama and those sites are still up and going strong, but do they hold any evidence that could really threaten OB? So then I have to ask myself why does API keep going down, does he really hold evidence that could threaten OB?

Since Google is in the tank for Obama and the MSM is obviouly corrupted, when congress gets their way with the Un Fairness Doctrine and Conservative radio is stifled, well…pffft….Nevermind, I think we can see where this is all going

cyndi, that is the real kicker, thats why i’m a fence sitter and not bashing api at the moment, i got an email that the api site and mayber perhaps the email addy as well, which leads me to believe that there may be something there.

Mountain Sage blog has a lot to do with API shutdowns, They harrass the server until they do something. They are a bunch of vandictive children over there.

One even admitted today to attacking Mr Korir’s email
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Old news is soooo exciting.

He started sending me forwards under a different name…4-9 a day about 2 weeks ago. Thinking it was an honest mistake, I responded to remove me from the distribution list.
I got this response..”You don’t like? That was not bad. ok i not send anymore bad.’ Same writing as his responses to my calling him a sleazeball….to the same email that isn’t my wp email.
2 days later it started again.
He got 412 emails in 25 minutes.
Then i saw that he said his email was under attack…ding ding ding.

JonEsq – the issue was WMD which comes in many forms – chemical, nuclear etc – so YES yellow cake uranium being in Iraq is in fact a BIG DEAL! I am stunned that you are so flippant about that.

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from Wikipedia
Yellowcake is used in the preparation of fuel for nuclear reactors, where it is processed into purified UO2 for use in fuel rods for PHWR and other systems using unenriched uranium. It may also be enriched, by being converted to uranium hexafluoride gas (UF6), by isotope separation through gaseous diffusion or in a gas centrifuge to produce enriched uranium suitable for use in weapons and reactors
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Give me a break Jon – there were many reasons for going to Iraq – one was their possession of/potential for producing WMD. You indeed are blind – what a waste of gray matter

The irony is that the Tuwaitha facility south of Baghdad already possessed yellow cake uranium. Between 1980 and 1982, Iraq procured more than 400 tons of yellowcake from Portugal and Niger which remained in a storage complex close to Tuwaitha.[26][27] The facility and its yellowcake were monitored and frequently inspected by the International Atomic Energy Agency after the 1991 Gulf War. About 1.8 metric tons of “yellow cake” and 500 tons of unrefined uranium went missing when the Iraqi guards left Tuwaitha unattended during the 2003 invsion of Iraq.[28] When the facility was first encountered by U.S. Marines, they believed they had stumbled upon an illegal weapons cache; according to nuclear experts, however, they actually wound up breaking the IAEA seals that are “designed to ensure the materials aren’t diverted for weapons use or end up in the wrong hands.”[29] The Pentagon dispatched a team to survey the site “after a month of official indecision”, finding it heavily looted and said it was impossible to tell whether nuclear materials were missing.[30] This material was later sold by the new Iraqi government to Canadian uranium producer, Cameco Corp.[31]

The uranium them moved was known about and tagged. I agree it is good that the military worked in getting it out of iraq. It was a security threat and a good thing to do. I just am pointing out that this is not what bush spoke about and not “found” uranium.

I know of the API stuff that has been going on as I posted there a couple of times, but pretty much stayed silent. I was in fear that trouble was brewing from many areas. So I just sat back and watched it all for the last month. Got a fairly good read on ppl and that’s how I ended up here. I believe the ppl of this site are of good heart and soul and least not forget their brains are attached.

My concern about leo’s case is that the SCOTUS has never had to interpret or define “natural born citizen” before….If his case gets that far I think they will define it and we won’t like their definition

like i posted earlier, weapons are weapons ESQ, the un shoulda got ALLLLL of them out there. i put that souly on the the ineffectiveness of the UN. That is just another proof positive that the UN is just a bunch of clowns trying to line their own pockets which points out even more that IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO GO INTO IRAQ, JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE THERE PRIOR TO 91 OR 96 DOESNT MEAN THAT IT WAS RIGHT……!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I said it was a good thing they removed it. I am on your side with that.

That doesnt change anything about the past though. It was known about and not used as a justification for going in so it is irrelevent in that one manner. I am answering the question of wasnt bush right on yellowcake. The answer remains. No.

I UNDERSTAND the danger of it. I am happy it is gone from Iraq. Was this what bush was talking about for justification for war? No. Was it registered with the UN? Yes. Am I happy it is gone from Iraq? Yes.

The regime has a history of reckless aggression in the Middle East. It has a deep hatred of America and our friends. And it has aided, trained and harbored terrorists, including operatives of al Qaeda.

The danger is clear: using chemical, biological or, one day, nuclear weapons, obtained with the help of Iraq, the terrorists could fulfill their stated ambitions and kill thousands or hundreds of thousands of innocent people in our country, or any other.

He did speak of nuclear threat. I agree that was his justification. This Uranium was tagged by the UN at the time of the speech. If the argument was the the UN was not securing Iraq’s yellowcake I would be 100% behind bush being right. He sold a story of getting a NEW stockpile. That is not the case with this.

no offense on meant. Certainly not siding with any anti-iraq people. But i the yellow cake, to me, was known about. It wasnt’ hidden. However, the chemical shells found, the mass graves, the genocide, the fact that several other intelligence reports from other countries pointed to WMD’s. I still believe that the weapons he did have are now in Syria or sunken in the Euphrates river.

What else is funny is how Obama said he didn’t support the war. However, he didn’t have a vote as he was still in IL voting present. His stating he didn’t support the war is equivalent to my sister saying she was against the war….and she’s in sales!

Troy that is too funny… Believe it or not when I was 16 I picked up a horse on Hwy 10 in Braggs, OK in my little 2 door comet(baby poop green at that) He rode in the back standing in the floor board he was a miniture horse, tho still took up the entire backseat. Me and my cousin took him to my grandma’s down the road. The owners did come get him tho. Not too many people can say that they have driven around with a horse in their back seat of their car, but I am proud to say that I am one of the few….

Afghanstan security and Bin Laden. The run up to Iraq was not as deep as a debate as it should of been in my eyes. We were mixing the two goals together and Iraq should of been a completely separted out of 9/11 and its own animal after afghanstan was finished.

This is what the left dont understand. The terrorism didnt start with Osama, the war on terror did, but the war on terror WONT AND JUST ISNT OSAMA BIN LADEN!!!!!

It the exermination of the mindset that they hold and that their followers hold. Isnt if funny how we havent been attacked in 7 yrs, something that hasnt happend since 1993. Saddam was a financier of terrorism, a facilitator of terrorism and when we whooped his ass, al quada said that the were gonna fight us there, BIG MISTAKE, cus like i said when al quada showed up in masses there to fight us and were giving us their best shot, you and the likes of you like obama, and the democrats, said we lost and not able to win. so while when they gave us their best shot, we (republicans) turned around and gave them ours….and now look. so, to say it took they eye off the ball, is highly ingrorant and i expected more out of you and your party.

After Biden and the rest were briefed by the CIA he came out in usual fashion blurting out things he had no business saying
(international crisis within 6 months) Would anyone like to take a guess on what he was refering to?….I have my suspicions, but I would like to see what others think…BTW, it wasn’t just a gaffe on his part…He was actually letting the cat out of the bag!!!

So I guess if Iraq has uranium and the UN knows they have unranium then they just won’t use that uranium against anyone? Wow – you sure trust a maniacal dictator pretty easily – (oh, no I get it- maybe that is why you like Obama so much…that explains alot)

They were dangerous because they DID have it but the media made like poor Iraq was just minding their own business – no nuclear capabilities, not chemical weapons etc.

cindy, all other countries had the same intel we did, we just decided to err on the side of caution after 9/11, no the dems wanna make the burden of proof on us again, burden of proof belongs on other nations

Slider, great points. I use the arguement all of the time. It’s easier to fight Al Queda in the open than it is in their little caves. Even Al Quaida leaders believed the fight was in Iraq….NOT Afghanistan! They came to us…much easier than us going to them. Also, as you said, this is one snake where if you kill the head it won’t kill the snake. Bin Laden would only bring a moral victory…nothing more…in fact, it will make him a martyr!

ESQ,
This is just for you….Relax it’s meant to be humorous
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ARE YOU DEMOCRAT, REPUBLICAN OR REDNECK?

Here is a little test that will help you decide

You’re walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, an Islamic terrorist with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, praises Allah, raises the knife, and charges at you.
You are carrying a Glock cal 40, and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family.
What do you do?
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Democrat’s Answer:
Well, that’s not enough information to answer the question!
Does the man look poor! Or oppressed?
Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack?
Could we run away?
What does my wife think? What about the kids?
Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand?
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Republican’s Answer:
BANG!
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Redneck’s Answer:
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! Click….
(sounds of reloading)
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click
Daughter: ‘Nice grouping, Daddy! Were those the Winchester Silver Tips or Hollow Points?’
Son: ‘You got him, Pop! Can I shoot the next one?’
Wife: ‘You are NOT taking that to the taxidermist !

hockey fan, this is what they dont get, they couldnt win in iraq and where are they going now? Afghan. this isnt the last time they are gonna do it, but, i’ll predict right now, we’ll start winning again in afghan. then, they will go back to iraq, set off some bombs, media here and the dems will say, see, we lost in iraq…..any bets?

remember when clinton said about our spies not dealing with unsavory charactors anymore?

cant help but think that maybe if we did, our intel at the time might be a lil bit better and if clinton woulda taken bin laden when he had the chance in 96, hmmmmmmm, where would we be today, i mean, since we are bringing up mistakes about presidents and all

We are complete opposite sides on Iraq. We are in it now so the point is moot.

I wanted to clear up a factial point on the Uranium shipped to Canada from Iraq. That has been done. I see no point in rehashing justifications, threats, and so on down the line. We need to get Iraq fully secure the government functions fully the internal security completely ready for full control and move on what happened in the past happened.

I watched that video of the guy they cut off his head….. the one were they had to slice many many times while he was screaming…….
I have never forgot that scream… I will never watch that video again….. but I am glad I watched it the first time though it was bad enough to give someone nightmares….

That was what the war was about,…… That was what we were fighting…and it’s a fight for a just cause

and they also don’t understand that Obama won’t have some magical words that will convince Iran, or others with the same mentality, that they are not being nice. Obama didn’t know his pastor after 20 years and he was like family to the Obamas. And they believe he’ll be able to know world leaders in a matter of weeks, months or even 4 years!?

By the way, I know that Obama knew EXACTLY what Wright believed. I’m just pointing out the silliness of most Obama supporters. He either lied about Wright (which is what i believe) or he’s the most naive person in the world….which is it? Either one of them is a bad answer for a presidential candidate….And if he is that naive, again, how is going to deal with world leaders that think just like Wright?

If the pressure is not put fully on the Iraqi people to meet these benchmarks the time we spend in Iraq may be endless. We are giving little motivation for Iraq to take the steps required to take full control. We need a bit more stick in getting them there…

ESQ, go to the dod website for the latest, all the reports i’ve read from news sources, source the dod website so i just started there

also, go to the presentation that patraus did for the heritage foundation, (power point) that even opened my eyes, its about 45 mins long, but, outstanding milestones, and lingering concerns

the trick is, what he says in there in the early years of the war, its the middle ranks that were poor, sargents and leutinants and such take a career to get that kinda leadership, it just doesnt happen overnite like dems think.

the trick is, to have them battle hardend enough that if there is a flare up, to be able to have the Iraqi’s not just fight them, but the squash them

also, they are now working on getting the iraq airforce up and running

i know that the heritage is a conservative think tank, however, patreaus doesnt sugar coat anything here, it’s just so happens thats where he gave the presentation, i mean, come on, do you actually think that a dem organization would want good news about iraq presented to them…..i think not

Sure you flat out refuse to go to a left leaning website to read an interview and than send me to the heritage foundation (a building in much much much younger years I might of peed on once) .

I do give more faith in petraeus than many inside of the adminstration. But the problem still is that the white houses report on benchmarks last year was quite abit off from the Governmental Accountability Offices. I tend to trust the GAO a bit more the white house is a bit more invested in showing the bright side of things.

“The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges … Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year…”

The 13th Amendment to the United States Constitution, passed by the Senate on April 8, 1864, by the House on January 31, 1865, and ratified on December 6, 1865, abolished slavery as a legal institution.

The Constitution, although never mentioning slavery by name, refers to slaves as “such persons” in Article I, Section 9 and “a person held to service or labor” in Article IV, Section 2. The Thirteenth Amendment, in direct terminology, put an end to this. The amendment states:

Section 1:

“Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2:

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.”

Cyndi here are from Obama’s agenda the exact words on the service issue you are asking about:

Expand Service-Learning in Our Nation’s Schools: Set a goal that all middle and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year. Develop national guidelines for service learning and give schools better tools both to develop programs and to document student experience.

Require 100 Hours of Service in College: Establish a new American Opportunity Tax Credit worth $4,000 a year in exchange for 100 hours of public service a year.

I am set back from the Require part. Community service as opitional school credit or for a college tax or course credit I can get behind if it is mandiated the civil liberties side of me speaks up. I hope there is adjustment with proposed and actual. This is where our congresspeople come in handy…

I had read somewhere (as I always am) that some grocery stores had problems getting loans to restock shelves. And yesterday for the first time in my Life 42 years old that I have walked into a Wal-Mart grocery part and this is a super Wal-Mart and there only be 10 ppl in there. It was very eerie…

Just curious if anyone has done a reverse ip on themselves lately. I was checking out the article on here http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/11/stealth-censors.html
and saw the reverse ip done and noticed similarities to a reverse ip I had done on my computer just yesterday. The creepy thing is, my server is being routed from the east coast all the way to the same Seattle ip as Atlas Shrugs then through Chicago then Cleveland and back to the east coast. What is the purpose of that? Info dump? Log of activity?

One quiet morning 145 years ago today, some of the most famous words ever spoken in American history were uttered by the President of the United States. Fifteen-thousand people are believed to have been on hand for the event. And when it