In 2018 The Aim Must Be to Destroy Trump and The Republican’s Intolerance: Here’s The Only Path to The Victory of Good Over Evil

The Trump-shill Wall Street Journal gloats: “Democrats want to win back control of Congress and state capitals during next year’s elections but they begin this mission with precious little cash to finance it.”

How would Frank destroy the “intolerance” of the Right? The only means he has to do that is through laws and government enforcement. Frank wants the government to force people to accept and associate with people they don’t want to associate with. He wants to eliminate freedom of association. The government will tell every white person and heterosexual person who they must associate with. Or else face some kind of penalty. The government has to become more heavily involved in the personal decisions of whites and heterosexuals because if people are left to make their own decisions, they will continue to reject those who Frank wants to force on them.

NO! Gory…. Frank wants no such thing. All Frank wants, if for people to wake up to the Neo-Fascist-Alt-Right-White-Fundamentalist-Christian agenda, which you have made blatantly obvious in your numerous and preposterously bigoted, racist, xenophobic, Islamophobic, homophobic, misogynistic, and warmongering comments, which I’ve complied bellow:

“We have guns, and can arrange a civil war.”

“I don’t believe I ever claimed to love the USA.”

“Most white Alabama voters voted for Roy Moore, and almost all darkie Alabama voters voted for Doug Jones. Without the negro vote, Jones would not have won. Once again, negores have proven to be a liability rather than an asset.”

“To all the women who voted for Jones: abortion will improve your life dramatically.”

“The New Testament does not require, or even support, open borders, DACA, or any part of the liberal agenda.”

“I should not wish anyone were dead. But, it is true that those who will never become Christians would be better off if they were dead, since the longer they live, the more sins they commit and the greater will be their eternal punishment. Now I didn’t invent that system, God did. So if you have a problem with it, you should complain to the God of the Bible.”

“You think abortion is murder? Your liberal friends won’t like that. But, you are right, abortion is the murder of an unborn child. That’s why it’s immoral and unconstitutional. But, it still has some benefits. Women who have abortions are wicked. If they had the child instead of killing it, they would raise it to be wicked, like they are. We have an oversupply of wicked people already. So it benefits society for wicked women to not reproduce.”

“I wouldn’t expect people involved in interracial sex to be a fan of Roy Moore.”
“Are you white? Unless you are, you can’t pollute the White Race by having sex with a negro.”

“Don’t be too sure your relationship with your boy is healthy, the two of you fornicate with each other.” (In reference to my Black partner)

“Abadie, If you weren’t a slut, getting knocked up wouldn’t be a possibility.” (Also in reference to my Black partner)

When I asked him: “Would you please explain why in your view I am a slut… As in what exactly do you believe I am doing with my partner that would classify me as such?” His reply was: “Because you have a black boyfriend. Black men won’t date white women who refuse to have sex with them.”

“By the way, you are the one who decided to be a slut. That decision was yours alone. If it bothers you that people notice, well, that goes with the territory.”

“But those “roughly 40 other Christian denominations” are NOT CHRISTIANS!!! Only fundamentalist Christians are real Christians.”

“Non-Christians WILL burn in Hell for eternity because that is what the Bible says.”

“The God of the Bible is the God who is going to put you in Hell!”

“I don’t have the power to condemn you. If I did, you would already be in Hell.

But I know the kind of people God condemns, and you are one of them.”

“abadie, You’re one who likes to live in their own little pretend world. A world where YOU make the rules and decide what is real and what is not. Boy, are you in for a big surprise when reality is finally forced upon you!”

“Hell is a Biblical teaching. It’s a real place where real people go when they die. It should frighten everyone.”

“You can’t prove that torture is immoral.”

” I’m not wrong. Happily for me, all my sins have been atoned for. Not so for you.”
“I don’t decide who goes to Hell. God does. And God has already decided that is where YOU are going.”

“If Francis and Edith Schaeffer approve of what Frank is doing, then they are not in Heaven.”

“Every Democrat in America violates many New Testament principles. Yet, you prefer one of them be President instead of Trump. I don’t. Liberals are bad for America.”

“Uniting people is only impossible when one or both sides are unwilling to compromise”. That’s my point. I’m not willing to compromise.”

“There are lots of bad people out there. But you and Frank want to import more of them.”

“If you and Frank didn’t want to import bad people, you would support increased vetting.”

~Gary Bryson

Note: Plagiarism will not be tolerated. As such, none of the above “intellectual property” may be used without duly crediting the author.

NO! Gory… Frank does not talk about “destroying” his enemies. Drumph and his supporters do, with their non-stop rhetoric of “kill everyone who does not agree with your White Male Supremacist Heterosexual Christofascist views…”

As for all those comments you’ve made which are so representative of the mindset of the GOP. As Ralph Waldo Emerson once said: “People do not seem to realize that their opinion… is also a confession of their character.” Little wonder that the rest of us (the majority) don’t want the likes of you to rule over us and mandate how we are to think, what we are to believe, who we can marry, who we can associate with, who we can have sex with, and how we are to conduct ourselves every waking and sleeping moment of our entire lives. In other words… What we don’t want, is the Christofascist version of Sharia Law… So it behooves us to take note, and get involved in the political process, and vote out those who would mandate such things…

Ms Abadie … the quote I posted on the previous page thats quite relevant to your comment here .. from Poet .. Pulitzer Prize winner .. and devoted Christian in the last seven years of his life ;

” That’s okay. I think the opposite is the problem: that there are so many people who call themselves Christians. I find it refreshing that there are people who aren’t Christians. It’s the Christians who disturb me. I find Christian fundamentalists every bit as intolerant and vicious and hypocritical as our purported enemy, Islamic fundamentalists. Those people are now represented by the leadership of this country. It’s a terrifying thing, the clash of two fundamentalist branches of these great visionary systems and religions. Islam, of course, sees itself as a step beyond Christianity and incorporates Christ into a larger family of holy beings we can turn to. Islam is very interesting in that respect. It doesn’t take it to the final step. Islam doesn’t believe in the sacrifice and death of Christ. I think that’s nonsense. But Christ is there as a figure in Islam ”

abadie, I don’t want to run your life. But I don’t want you to run mine either. And I’m not about to allow you to. I don’t care who you have sex with, how many abortions you have, who your friends are, who you do business with, what your religion is, or what you do with your time. Your life does not affect mine. As long as that remains true, its none of my business what you do. But I insist that what I do is none of your business either.

Not sure what it is that makes you think that I want to run your life.

Oh… But wait! I get it!

What has your knickers in a twist is that if people like me get our way, it will rob you of the satisfaction/pleasure of bringing about a civil war, dictating how others should behave, and having homosexuals executed, and Blacks and other minorities subjugated and enslaved.

Sorry, but being that I have friends who are homosexual AND a Black partner, with desires such as your, what you (and those who believe as you) do is very much my business! Particularly being that for me and my loved ones it IS a matter of life and death.

abadie, BS. You are full of it. It makes no difference to me who your friends are or who you screw. I want nothing to do with you, and as long as I don’t have to have anything to do with you, live any way you want. Now, of course you won’t believe that. But who gives a shit?

” What has your knickers in a twist is that if people like me get our way, it will rob you of the satisfaction/pleasure of bringing about a civil war, dictating how others should behave, and having homosexuals executed, and Blacks and other minorities subjugated and enslaved ”

Actually what it really does is challenge his/its less than healthy sense of self esteem and masculinity to the core … because if everyone is not exactly like him/it … then he/it .. in his own demented little mind lacking in self esteem and addled by fear .. must be irrelevant and meaningless

The joke is .. ever if everyone were exactly like him/it .. he’d still be leading a completely irrelevant and meaningless little life

You’re so sure about that aren’t you? Keep up with all the hate and vile rhetoric and you will find out just how worthless that card is. You can verbalize religion and go through all the motions of being a so-called Christian all you want but unless you strive to live the fruits of the spirit such as being kind, showing compassion and respect towards others as human beings even if they are different from you and have different beliefs, striving for unity instead of division by doing away with this stupid religious tribalism you seem so fond of. And stop condemning people to hell who you know nothing about. Only God knows the hearts of the folks you condemn and he is not sharing his opinions with you so you can spew your hate on others in his name. Please reread Galatians 5:22-23 and go out into the world to be THAT kind of person and not waste time on Frank’s blog or any other social media for that matter spewing your trash. BTW, Frank does not hate Christians but he does despise the fakes who abuse those religions and twist them to fit their own hateful, selfish agendas. That’s what he is against but obviously you can’t separate the counterfeit, hateful version of Christianity from the one that is about loving others. In other words, get rid of the hate and get a life that is kinder and more productive.

Stacey, You have not listened to what Frank has said. Either that, or you don’t believe what he has said. It is real Christians that Frank hates. Bible believers. Frank likes the fake Christians who don’t believe the Bible.

Well said Stacey! Thing is, Gory is guilty of doing exactly what he accuses others of doing. That being to selectively chose to believe some passages in the bible, and totally disregarding other passages that don’t fit with his agenda of hatred.

” Stacey, I do have a “get out of hell free card”, of sorts. Something neither you, nor TJ, nor abadie have ”

Ahh .. Brys**t ,, in light of the above being in absolute direct contradiction to all that Scripture says and diametrically opposed to every Word of Christ and the Apostles … I’d say your get out of hell card is …

Thing is Gory… Your get out of hell card only works if you “repent” for all your sins, which would include everything from showing up in church with an ingrown hair or any other speck of imperfection on your scrotum, (yes! it IS written in the bible) to hating on others! If you don’t repent… then off to hell you go. Sorry to have to break it to you, but believing in the bible is only half of your duty… You must also “obey” that which the bible commands. Which means no hating on others and absolutely no threatening others with any form of violence for you!

Sorry Gory… But one need only to be able to read to know that the bible is clear about that the unrepentant will die in a lake of fire at the end of the age (Matthew 10:28; Revelation 20:14-15). It’s not that one sin is more terrible than another is, but rather that any sin we don’t repent of will result in hell. Hebrews 6:4-6 and Hebrews 10:26-27. Both mention this sin as well, warning us not to “fall away” or to “sin willfully.” If, as children of God, we choose to remain in our sin, then we choose the consequences that go with that choice. Broken fellowship and lack of growth result. However, those who persist in sin need to reexamine their true relationship with God (2 Corinthians 13:5). Scripture is clear that those who know God do not continue a lifestyle of unrepentant sin (1 John 2:3–6; 3:7–10). The Lord’s discipline will be severe, when a heart has hardened to the point of no return (1 Corinthians 11:30; 1 John 5:16).

What is interesting Gory… Is how you clearly don’t believe what the bible says, (or you’d be abiding by what it says) and yet condemn everybody else who doubts it’s as inerrant as you claim. Talk about double standards!

I believe what the Bible says. And I have no double standard. I have no standards. God makes the rules, not me. I have no authority to require anything of anyone. You and I disagree about what is true, and what is moral. Same disagreement I have with Schaeffer.

The bible is clear that you must confess and sincerely repent of all your sins. If you feel that this somehow doesn’t apply to you, then you are either picking and choosing what parts of the bible you want to believe, and/or completely disregarding what the bible mandates. Which, according to your own statements … are sins that will guarantee a one-way ticket to hell.

Gory… You are an arrogant, self-righteous sadists. As such, you are incapable of even as much as recognizing your behavior as sinful, any more than you are capable of repenting for your sins. All of which means… You decidedly DON’T have your name written in no “book of life.” Your heart is filled with way too much hatred and disdains for way too many people whom you despise way too much. So much so, that you have even gleefully advocated for the killing of innocent children, and the execution of those who don’t interfere with your life in any way nor harm you in any perceivable manner, while you delight in trying to terrorize others by playing intimidating mind games with those whom you perceived to be vulnerable.

Ahhhh …. Brys**t … we got rid of Tricky Dicky with protests … and he had the total support of all the intelligence community as well as the press and more than 55% approval rating with the public … whereas Trump .. being the half wit idiot that he is … has made enemies of them all .. including the public who’s approval is now less than 30%

So damn right there’ll be hell to pay if Trump fires Mueller .. with much of it coming from his own party … now that they’ve got their Make the Richer even Richer at Your Kinds Expense ‘ tax reform on the books

Exactly, which is a real shame. Every blog entry has the same argument going. Gary, TJ, and Margarita. I’ve been following since a little before Christmas, and I know that Gary thinks everyone unlike him is going to hell, TJ tries to talk to him (an obvious waste of time), and Margarita likes to point out that Gary doesn’t approve of her interracial relationship. Ok, we get it. If people would ignore Gary, the rest of us might be able to have a discussion.

Thank you Frank Schaeffer for poking us always toward thinking clearer and embracing our individual responsibility to fix this mess. Helping us see that we can turn the tide and raise up a new hope and vision for this country. Best wishes to you my friend and comrade. May you always be Frank.
J.

The Democrat Party represents the interests of the next 9%. It retains a necessary alliance of mutual hostility with the Republican Party of the 1% AGAINST the interests of the 90%, which social class is systemically precluded from civic discourse in anything other than purely formulary, ritualistic means.

Livable and unlivable?

That is the difference between socialism and barbarism.

Giveaway?

Yes. Trump dropped the tax rate on corps from 35% to 21%. And what was Obama’s proposal? If memory serves correctly, he proposed dropping the tax rate from 35% to 25%. That whopping 4% must represent so much progressive content!

Donate to the Democrat Party?

My money goes to a working class party with a working class program with which working people can live.

Will it do any good?

No more good than you find in the Democrat Party program! The deportation record, education spending, police killings in poor communities, etc. under the Obama regime might be a good place to begin searching.

Who is complaining?

Bring down both parties. Bring down the ruling class! All power to the workers!

Ridiculous spectacle?

From my perspective, that includes everything which happens on the official political spectrum.

Smash the neo-fascistic movement?

Yet on the subject of foreign policy, the Democrat Party campaign critiques the Republican Party from the right. That’s quite an accomplishment in itself.

The message has to be …

The working class must not interpret its experience within the narrative constructs proffered by either party. It must instead pursue an independent, working class campaign and invest all power in the hands of the working class.

“the Bible contains some really bad ideas that got them (Evangelicals) used to basing entire lives on lies.” Frank Schaeffer from a Twitter entry.

More proof that Frank thinks the Bible is a pack of lies and anyone who believes it is a threat to society. Frank’s enemies are not “fake Christians” as some have claimed. Frank’s enemies are real Christians who believe the Bible.

Anyone can call himself a Christian. Saying, “Jesus, come into my heart. Be my Lord and Savior.”, doesn’t make you a Christian. Jesus said, “If you love me, you will follow my commandments.”. He gave us two…Love the Lord God with everything you are, and love your neighbor as yourself (which implies loving oneself). Who is our neighbor? According to Jesus, it’s everyone, even your enemy. The true test of a Christian is not in words and appearances. It’s in how you act. If so many words are necessary, you must not be acting right. Jesus said that many will cry “Lord, Lord”, and he will respond, “I never knew you”.
I was a cradle catholic and went to catholic elementary and secondary schools. After graduation, I moved to Southern California and became “born again”. It was just more indoctrination, but much more exclusive than even the Catholic Church. I really thought I was right back then. I wasted many years being afraid of everything not in my world and living for the second coming. There is more fear within the evangelical churches than anywhere else I’ve ever encountered. Thank God, I survived that. If God truly is love, a whole lot of Christians need to rethink their program.
As far as citing the Bible for evidence of truth, it’s a religious text, just like every other religious text. It is not historical fact or complete spiritual truth. It was never meant to be taken literally. That was a manufacture by the Roman Church for political purposes. The American evangelical churches (thousands of them) have taken it a step beyond, and cite the Bible over factual scientific evidence when the two disagree. That’s dangerous, as we are seeing. It’s kind of funny because, say a Christian that has a disdain for science regarding natural selection or climate change gets an illness or disease. Will that person refuse the science that will save his life and wait on God instead, or will they take advantage of everything available to save their life? Very few evangelical Christians would wait at home and refuse medical treatment. At some point, we need to wake up. Superstition and mythologies have no place in politics. Of course, people are free to believe anything they like, but don’t impose nonsense on the rest of us who want to remain free from hatred, intolerance, judgment, and fantasy.
A very old friend of mine lamented, “We can’t even tell homosexuals that they’re going to hell anymore!”. Another friend agreed and sighed. Even though no one has ever prevented them from pronouncing this hateful judgment, these two men feel they are among the injured party. What did Jesus ever say about homosexuality? Paul mentions it (a little too vehemently). Are they gods to be able to make such judgments? The American evangelical churches are destroying themselves. No one else need do or say anything.

Anne… I’ve been saying this all along. That Gory doesn’t approve of my interracial relationship is just the tip of the iceberg so to speak. No doubt that superstition and mythologies have no place in politics. But when those mythologies indoctrinate the subjugation and enslavement of a whole race and the annihilation of millions based solely on their sexual orientation … it is indeed VERY dangerous. Particularly when they are woven with nefarious eugenics concepts such as: “All women (to be understood as Black women) who voted voted for Doug Jones should have abortions” to go along with a good dose of murderous homophobic concepts such as: “Homosexuals should be executed.”

And sorry, while it is true that the Fundamentalist Christians are indeed destroying themselves, the fact that the likes of Roy Moore almost got voted into government … makes for that I vehemently disagree with that no one else need do or say anything.

Anne… As for your comment “of course, people are free to believe anything they like, but don’t impose nonsense on the rest of us who want to remain free from hatred, intolerance, judgment, and fantasy” … I couldn’t agree with you more.

Sadly, if you read what Gory just posted, “I didn’t mean to limit encouraging abortions to only the black women who voted for Doug Jones. I meant to include ALL women who voted for Jones. And I explained why in a past post. It was originally God’s idea that sex between people of the same sex should carry the penalty of death” you will see that there is every reason to do everything we can to ensure that these folks don’t vote in people like Roy Moore who would then pass laws that would criminalize interracial and/or same-sex relationships, which would then result in the mass-persecutions of millions of people.

Gory… While we could argue until the end of times over what does, or does not constitute being a “true” Christian … what remains clear is the fact that these so-called White Supremacist “Bible Thumpers” (you being just one of them) who advocate for nefarious eugenics concepts such as: “All women (to be understood as Black women) who voted voted for Doug Jones should have abortions” to go along with a good dose of murderous homophobic concepts such as: “Homosexuals should be executed,” indeed make the like of you the ENEMY!!!

That must by far be the weakest argument ever! For the record, I don’t hate you. In fact, I find you highly entertaining and very amusing. I have never threatened you or impinged on your lifestyle in any way, nor do I wish you ill, unhappiness, or anything unpleasant.

And it’s not about that I can’t love my enemies and give them the space to be themselves… It’s just that I can’t have the likes of you running around rampant looking to lynch, burn and execute folks and my loved ones for no other reason than because according to your erroneous interpretation, the bible says so. Sure hope you understand…

abadie, You would have to prove my interpretation of the Bible is erroneous. But, since you believe nothing in the Bible is literally true, you can’t prove any interpretation is erroneous. Error requires literal truth to prove it is error.

Gory… I am not here to prove that the bible is flawed and/or to make you change your beliefs. My goal is to expose the bigoted, racist, homophobic, and inherently sadistic mindset of those such as Mike Pence and Roy Moore who interpret the bible as you do, and whose goal is to further the Christofascist agenda: To Take Back The Country For Christ; in the hope that people realize the very real and present danger folks like you pose to everyone else.

abadie, It is not my goal “To Take Back The Country For Christ”. I believe America is doomed, just like the rest of the world. Conditions will continue on their present destructive course until God pours out His wrath on the earth and its inhabitants. Only after that will Christ return to earth as King to establish a world-wide theocracy.

Oh Frank. I wanted to read and listen and learn, but I can’t because there is so much yelling going on here. Ugh. This Gary Bryson character is taking over your comments section. Couldn’t someone moderate this conversation a bit and help keep the conversation either civil or at least shut down the troll(s)?