Moderator:"This is actually about class, isn't it? This is about socioeconomics?"

Douglas Murray:"To a great extent, yes. People who came into a country are tend to be on the lower socioeconomic caste, and the beginning gradually over decades and then in a century they come out... Yes, to an extent that's the case, and yes, to an extent it's true that's there has always been immigration in this country. In the last sixty years it has been far-far [livelier[?]] than in any previous point in our history, and so some of these debates are now a lot more [vibrant[?]] than perhaps they were then."

Douglas Murray:"The mass of Huguenots who came to this country over the course of a century was the same number of people that were immigrating into Britain in a few month under New Labour, so it was just a different pace, and it's not necessary to pretend that away. It's also not necessary to pretend away the fact that although we have immigration there has also always been a sense of identity in this country, which should not be ignored, and it should not be pretended away. And a lot of people now say: 'well Britain has always been a country, therefor we have no identity that's British, or no identity here.' We do, people feel it and a lot of damage is done when you tell people not only that you do not have an identity, you don't have the right to an identity."