Comments on: LA Cardinal Calls Himself ‘Scapegoat’ in Sex Scandalhttp://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/02/la-cardinal-calls-himself-scapegoat-in-sex-scandal/
The latest Headlines, news and blog posts from ABC News contributors and bloggers.Thu, 19 Feb 2015 18:41:09 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1By: rod larocquehttp://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/02/la-cardinal-calls-himself-scapegoat-in-sex-scandal/#comment-10454775
rod larocqueFri, 22 Feb 2013 17:58:17 +0000http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/?p=469593#comment-10454775I am no friend of Mahony,,, as a traditional Catholic I am bound to call him out for his modernism and liberal desecration of the temple, but regarding the files released, after having read over 50% of them, I don't see why he is being condemned.
In each case I read, and there were hundreds of pages, he seemed clearly to want to stop the abuse and the abuser and act compasionately. I didn't see any evidence of a real cover-up. There was no indication of that.
I wonder if people really read and thought about the issue if the assessment would be different. In this case my asssessment is he did the best he could and that effort wasn't unreasonable or uncharitable.I am no friend of Mahony,,, as a traditional Catholic I am bound to call him out for his modernism and liberal desecration of the temple, but regarding the files released, after having read over 50% of them, I don’t see why he is being condemned.
In each case I read, and there were hundreds of pages, he seemed clearly to want to stop the abuse and the abuser and act compasionately. I didn’t see any evidence of a real cover-up. There was no indication of that.
I wonder if people really read and thought about the issue if the assessment would be different. In this case my asssessment is he did the best he could and that effort wasn’t unreasonable or uncharitable.
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TerrenceFri, 22 Feb 2013 15:25:53 +0000http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/?p=469593#comment-10453504Spike - I don't consider this a religious issue. I consider it about someone in authority putting their organization first in protecting those who are preying upon innocent children. Same with Penn State and Coach Paterno.Spike – I don’t consider this a religious issue. I consider it about someone in authority putting their organization first in protecting those who are preying upon innocent children. Same with Penn State and Coach Paterno.
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Carol LaSalleFri, 22 Feb 2013 09:29:08 +0000http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/?p=469593#comment-10450065I wish he would just stop talking altogether. He just keep shoving his foot further down his own throat every time he opens his mouth!I wish he would just stop talking altogether. He just keep shoving his foot further down his own throat every time he opens his mouth!
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merrideeFri, 22 Feb 2013 03:06:47 +0000http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/?p=469593#comment-10446332The reality is Mahony turned a blind eye to those pedophile priests and allowed them to continue their depredations. He enabled the crimes against those kids. He tolerated those crime and now, now he complains about being humiliated? What about the victims of those priests who were humiliated in the sickest ways possible and then abandoned to find their way while living with the shame of what was done to them? What about them? Mahony as scapegoat? Bollocks!The reality is Mahony turned a blind eye to those pedophile priests and allowed them to continue their depredations. He enabled the crimes against those kids. He tolerated those crime and now, now he complains about being humiliated? What about the victims of those priests who were humiliated in the sickest ways possible and then abandoned to find their way while living with the shame of what was done to them? What about them? Mahony as scapegoat? Bollocks!
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Ward PayneFri, 22 Feb 2013 01:37:04 +0000http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/?p=469593#comment-10445557Re: "The issue is the fact that Mohoney is a Catholic and the bloggers on this thread are anti-Catholic." This REAL issue is that he covered for the molesters of children. Who could be more "anti-Catholic" than a member of the Catholic clergy who makes the church into a haven for evil men?Re: “The issue is the fact that Mohoney is a Catholic and the bloggers on this thread are anti-Catholic.” This REAL issue is that he covered for the molesters of children. Who could be more “anti-Catholic” than a member of the Catholic clergy who makes the church into a haven for evil men?
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Ward PayneFri, 22 Feb 2013 01:34:22 +0000http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/?p=469593#comment-10445538He got the "goat" part right. "All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left." ... “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels." Matt. 25: 32,33 & 41He got the “goat” part right. “All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.” … “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.” Matt. 25: 32,33 & 41
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MagdaleneFri, 22 Feb 2013 01:11:46 +0000http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/?p=469593#comment-10445365Someone get me a violin!Someone get me a violin!
]]>By: spikehttp://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/02/la-cardinal-calls-himself-scapegoat-in-sex-scandal/#comment-10444380
spikeThu, 21 Feb 2013 23:13:52 +0000http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/?p=469593#comment-10444380What doesn't seem to be mentioned in the article is exactly WHAT Mahoney is guilty of. Did he, himself, actually molest any kids and if so, why wasn't he convicted in a court of law and serving time in jail?
If he presided over priests who molested kids, the question becomes, could he have prevented them from doing it?
So far, NOTHING is made clear.
Even if the church itself is not a democracy, this country IS one and a person is innocent until proven guilty.
I'll tell you what this LOOKS like. It doesn't look like the issue is child molestation. The issue is the fact that Mohoney is a Catholic and the bloggers on this thread are anti-Catholic.
To these bigots I can only say that what goes around has a way of coming around. There may be a day when anyone who is an ATHEIST is automatically considered a child molester whether he is one or not.What doesn’t seem to be mentioned in the article is exactly WHAT Mahoney is guilty of. Did he, himself, actually molest any kids and if so, why wasn’t he convicted in a court of law and serving time in jail?

If he presided over priests who molested kids, the question becomes, could he have prevented them from doing it?

So far, NOTHING is made clear.

Even if the church itself is not a democracy, this country IS one and a person is innocent until proven guilty.

I’ll tell you what this LOOKS like. It doesn’t look like the issue is child molestation. The issue is the fact that Mohoney is a Catholic and the bloggers on this thread are anti-Catholic.

To these bigots I can only say that what goes around has a way of coming around. There may be a day when anyone who is an ATHEIST is automatically considered a child molester whether he is one or not.

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Jilly WThu, 21 Feb 2013 18:45:03 +0000http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/?p=469593#comment-10441940Just exactly how thick is Mahony, anyway? "Scapegoat" my sainted Aunt Matilda! Talk about some hubris.....Just exactly how thick is Mahony, anyway? “Scapegoat” my sainted Aunt Matilda! Talk about some hubris…..
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TerrenceThu, 21 Feb 2013 18:40:11 +0000http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/?p=469593#comment-10441900Smarty - I'm still not seeing any justification for letting Mahoney off the hook. You say most of these problems were inheirited by Mahoney from his predecessors? A True Man of God, as Mahoney clearly sees himself, would have taken certan steps. Such as immediately contacting higher-ups in church leadership AND contacting the police and other legal authorities. Then helping the authorities in tracking down these criminal priests and seeing they are brought to Justice. That is what a person who values Morality and protecting innocent children would do. Instead, Mahoney showed he valued the Church, his ego, his power, his control, over Godly Priciples, Morality, and protecting Innocent Children. He is simply a disgrace.Smarty – I’m still not seeing any justification for letting Mahoney off the hook. You say most of these problems were inheirited by Mahoney from his predecessors? A True Man of God, as Mahoney clearly sees himself, would have taken certan steps. Such as immediately contacting higher-ups in church leadership AND contacting the police and other legal authorities. Then helping the authorities in tracking down these criminal priests and seeing they are brought to Justice. That is what a person who values Morality and protecting innocent children would do. Instead, Mahoney showed he valued the Church, his ego, his power, his control, over Godly Priciples, Morality, and protecting Innocent Children. He is simply a disgrace.
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