Okee pokee, went out and shot apx 80 rds in two shooters, my blackhawk flat top and amodel 21 Classic. Both shot as good is I shoot, not very, and the barrels cleaned up with a brash brush and dry patch. The 21 may have some lead left in its really rough tool marks in the grooves but looks fine. I'm pushing them between 700/800 fps. Found a bullet with about 1/2 the lube left, but coulda lost some in the sand. Think I'll load up a bunch for casual can killing.