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really? I waited years for this answer??? Wow! I don't like this chapter at all! Obito magically gets all this power? Madara magically knew obito had this power???

Well he is wearing the zetsu suit, who told him that he better use him for fighting, because obito is not strong. So obvious this power has to do with his control through the suit. But it seems like he went berserk, going on pure instinct. This is nothing new in naruto or manga's of this kind, just showing that he unlocked some potential, even if it was possible only through the Zetsu suit.

Oh joy, a new recon. Well aside from the issue with Kakashi's MS, it was pretty cool to see Obito go wild like that. But now i got to wonder why he didn't fight like that against Minato or fight like that anymore. That was actually more cool then just phasing around. And it's interesting to hear the Kiri ninja mention the Bloody Mist, which seems to confirm that Madara is/was already in control of Yagura. Quite a bloody chapter.

Well Kakasi's MS is not really an issue, we never knew how he got it. It's better than the question mark, that we were left with and didn't think would ever be answered. And this is nothing new to naruto, Sasuke was shown to having awakened his Sharigan way back when Itachi/Obito killed the clan, becoming the youngest to awaken it, even before Itachi. So Kakashi having awakened MS, BECAUSE Obito awakened his through Kakashi, is a reasonable phenomena in Naruto. We have NO idea how or why it developed later. We don't know the type of training that Kakashi went through to control it. But we can fill in the gaps, it's reasonable if you consider that we don't know how MS works with non-Uchiha.

Re: Naruto 605 Spoiler Discussion

Originally Posted by Kusachu

YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!! All I can do is just mentally Shoryuken.

I don't like how it implies that Obito DID NOT awaken MS when he "died" though. Why bother mentioning how it seemed like he "slipped away" from the rock if it wasn't to imply that he had awakened his ability via stress of impending death? I had assumed that the trauma of killing Rin awakened it in Kakashi and therefore completed the eye set, but whatever. Obito makes batshit Sauce look like a total bitch now.

Here's hoping Sauce will redeem his tainted character in the future.

maybe like a sasuke thing, remember sasuke supposedly awakened his Sharigan as far back as Itachi's wipe out of the Uchiha clan, but before that flashback, we thought sasuke awakened his Sharingan at fight against Haku.

I'm putting my money on he doesn't have that faux body anymore. Or its only through "anger and hate" that he does that...

I'm thinking its because of that, and because Obito was more in control of his anger and rage at that point. He was simply after the Kyuubi and taking out any possible errors that could ruin whatever scheme that was plotted among him and Madara. From the look of things, Obito tried to absorb Minato, mostly a quicker route to deal with the Yellow Flash(Or enemies in general) than trying to pierce him with nightmarish tendrils of wood that he could easily teleport around and evade..

Re: Naruto 605 Spoiler Discussion

Originally Posted by TearsOfScarlet

maybe like a sasuke thing, remember sasuke supposedly awakened his Sharigan as far back as Itachi's wipe out of the Uchiha clan, but before that flashback, we thought sasuke awakened his Sharingan at fight against Haku.

No, no no, what I meant was this:

Sasuke: You better stay away from me because I'm pissed off so if you fight me I can't promise I wont kill you!

While the action and gore in this chapter was epic all i could help thinking was: Why the hell doesn't he fight like that now?
It seems like Kishi went a bit overboard so that he could make Obito more epic and make his transition into Tobi more understandable.

All in all it was a ok chapter, i would have liked it more if i actually cared about this flashback or obito in the least.

kishi just didnt want this unknown character using moukton everywhere.

I want to show I can be a splendid ninja as well, even if I don't have ninjutsu or genjutsu ...
I want to prove it to the whole world!

It kind of got me thinking. I'm assuming obito temporarily awoke his mangekyou just like sasuke awakened his sharingan during the uchiha slaughterfest. Sasuke was unaware of it and probably so was obito. Altough I'm still stuck on the fact if obito can use mangekyou jutsu without actually activating his mangekyou sharingan. See kyuubi genjutsu for reference, or the fact that he spams his S/T jutsu more than naruto does rasengan.

But I'm kind of wondering if kakashi had his mangekyou sharingan all along since his childhood (assuming he devloped 3rd tomoe then as well), but just didn't use it because of chakra constraints. He might have activated it once and just decided to never use it again since it would probably would or almost kill(ed) him.

In part one he full well knew what the mangekyou sharingan was, and I don't picture kakashi as a person who wouldn't push his capabilities to the limit. I know he said he developed a jutsu during the time skip, but I'm more inclined to think he worked on his chakra reserve.

Mist Village: Said it become the bloody Mist village under the yondaime Mizukage, but it was believed he was controlled by someone.
They already say in this chapter, We are from The bloody mist village! Madara, already planned this far far ahead!