the creator of ren and stimpy is an arrogant prick who got lucky people like his overrated crap enough to have such a big head but not big enough that it'd rip right through him.

Believe me, you wish that you have as much talent (not to mention, money) as John Kricfalusi does.

I wonder what would have happened if they had the Internet back in, say, the '40s? You would have seen so much crap about how Bob Clampett is "the most overrated, ever!" Or, in the '50s, people screaming at the top of their lungs that "Jerry Lewis isn't funny, doucheeeeee!"

its a crap show. the creator accused the simpsons of ripping him off, and south park.

WIthout Ren and Stimpy, there would be no South Park. Without Ren and Stimpy, there would be no Aqua Teen Hunger Force. Without Ren and Stimpy, there would be no Spongebob Squarepants. Without Ren and Stimpy, there would probably be no Family Guy. Heck, without Ren and Stimpy, there would be no Adult Swim!!!!

I intentionally left out the Simpsons because I don't know if Ren and Stimpy had any influence on them at all.

However, all the other animated shows I mentioned have a lot in common. They all are quite vulgar and have lots of toilet humor(aside from Spongebob), have a lot of non sequiturs and oddness about them. Lots of their content doesn't make sense, and is highly charged. Not to mention ballsy. As for Spongebob, that show is so full of goofiness, and I can't see or hear Spongebob without thinking of Stimpy!

Anyway, the way Ren and Stimpy stood out from the crowd back then is quite miraculous. Too bad it lost its touch and disappeared.

yes but you see unlike ren and stimpy the shows you mentioned have some humor behind them too. the jokes in family guy may have nothing to do with the plot, but at least it does have jokes. aqua teen hunger force as well can be seen as "random" however it still has a lot of humor as well. from carl, shake, plutonians, and the mooninites.

i mean you are saying animation influenced these cartoons, i mean in that case would everything else be a ripoff of the first cartoon ever made?

ren and stimpy wasn't even that vulgar. it just tried for the gross out humor, and fart jokes. that was all there was to it. hell give me tex avery as far as a revolutionary for cartoon humor goes.

yes but you see unlike ren and stimpy the shows you mentioned have some humor behind them too. the jokes in family guy may have nothing to do with the plot, but at least it does have jokes.

Not only do I find it outrageously hilarious that you put 'humor' and 'Family Guy' in the same sentence, but you claim that "at least Family Guy had jokes" (rough quote). I'm more than positive that John might've accidentally slipped in one tiny joke during the shows whole run. But hey, we can't all be ignorant assholes!

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And another thing: I have never heard John K. accuse the writers of The Simpsons of ripping him off. You have to understand that he's an old-school animation fan. He doesn't like anything new. These cartoons go back to a lot of old-school humor, including Bob Clampett cartoons and The Three Stooges shorts. So enough with the whining because he criticized your favorite show. Whoop-de-shit.

(BTW, I like Family Guy in addition to Ren & Stimpy

...and Mission Hill.)

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And another thing: I have never heard John K. accuse the writers of The Simpsons of ripping him off. You have to understand that he's an old-school animation fan. He doesn't like anything new. These cartoons go back to a lot of old-school humor, including Bob Clampett cartoons and The Three Stooges shorts. So enough with the whining because he criticized your favorite show. Whoop-de-shit.

WIthout Ren and Stimpy, there would be no South Park. Without Ren and Stimpy, there would be no Aqua Teen Hunger Force. Without Ren and Stimpy, there would be no Spongebob Squarepants. Without Ren and Stimpy, there would probably be no Family Guy. Heck, without Ren and Stimpy, there would be no Adult Swim!!!!

Inspiration is different from a Revolution. If R&S was indeed a revolutionary cartoon, every cartoon would be exactly like R&S. It didn't change the way cartoons were made, it didn't change the way we lived, but it sure as hell paved the way for a lot of lesser cartoons (kinda like the Faith no More effect). Tex Avery is a revolutionary, yes. Without his Loony Toons, cartoons would be a whole lot different today (although Walt Disney also started caused a big impact at around the same time). And without Avery, Chuck Jones would've never gave us the great Bugs Bunny cartoons that we all watched when we were kids. In the long run, yeah, Avery made a huge impact to the animation industry. But in the long run, so what? Ren and Stimpy is just as enjoyable even if it didn't do shit to the way the industry was run.