why old timers (the guys that built there hot rods by hands with there monkey wrenchs ha) I ve had quite a few tell me running these tuners ( im running spartan at the moment) is just guna ruin my truck. no way it will last over 2 years they tell me whether i run it hard or not, they just say keep it stock its the best way to go ha...what is yalls take. give me some good comebacks lol ive run out

lol not sure on the monkey wrench some old man said it ha, i just think if u maintain your truck right u can make it last at least 5 years with no issues...and yea smoking them out does sound GREAT..i like smoking the little prius out more tho ha there facial expressions are great when they see that black smoke

lol not sure on the monkey wrench some old man said it ha, i just think if u maintain your truck right u can make it last at least 5 years with no issues...and yea smoking them out does sound GREAT..i like smoking the little prius out more tho ha there facial expressions are great when they see that black smoke

The very first day I had my mods on a Prius driver actually got my attention at a stop light and gave me a "thumbs down", I just smiled at them and filled there rolled down window full of soot as soon as the light turned green and never looked back.

The very first day I had my mods on a Prius driver actually got my attention at a stop light and gave me a "thumbs down", I just smiled at them and filled there rolled down window full of soot as soon as the light turned green and never looked back.

The very first day I had my mods on a Prius driver actually got my attention at a stop light and gave me a "thumbs down", I just smiled at them and filled there rolled down window full of soot as soon as the light turned green and never looked back.

Sometimes I have a strong disliking for Californians!

next time you get that from a prius owner, pull them over, and proceed to ask them how they think their car got to the dealership.

why old timers (the guys that built there hot rods by hands with there monkey wrenchs ha) I ve had quite a few tell me running these tuners ( im running spartan at the moment) is just guna ruin my truck. no way it will last over 2 years they tell me whether i run it hard or not, they just say keep it stock its the best way to go ha...what is yalls take. give me some good comebacks lol ive run out

If you are not completely stupid all the time with your truck, you will see a better longevity over stock. There is a thread on here fuel in oil

Read the thread, and then look at my oil reports. I am getting less wear metals, and better viscosities after 5k than I did stock. Let alone that there is no fuel in my oil now like there was stock due to the dpf. My truck isn't pushed to the max, I am only running the 210 tune. I would like to have the 310 for "just in case" situations. Yes, we are adding more fuel, and raising EGT's, but not by a whole lot compared to a stock regen cycle. When I got my Spartan, I didn't have the tunes. I plugged in the DD, so I could monitor some things. During regen, towing, I saw a little over 1500 pre turbo EGT's. That is on a stock truck doing what it is meant to do. Tow up long grades with that, and you have a lot of 1/4 mile runs just on a stretch of road(let alone more stress on the trans). Add that with the extra wear from fuel in the oil, and a stock truck most likely won't make it as long as a tuned truck as long as you drive with some common sense. As far as the trans is concerned, Spartan makes it better than stock. Less slip(if any) than a stock tranny. Now with the old timers...they tweaked their cars, but back then, what could you really do???? Take off the air filter, exhaust, and rework the carb, and mess with the timing. Their cars were so easy to work on back then, problem was if they had it running great one day, and the next it would run like garbage due to the humidity change, etc. Then their cars would break because there was zero back pressure, dirt getting into the engine, overheat due to lean carb tuning, etc. Let alone the the transmissions were not made to accept ANYTHING over stock. Today is different even with their cars. So much technology we can do a lot to cars and trucks. You can take one of their cars today, and really do amazing things with it and they can be built to hold up, same as our trucks. With everything done right, our trucks will be fine, and a lot of fun to drive

why old timers (the guys that built there hot rods by hands with there monkey wrenchs ha) I ve had quite a few tell me running these tuners ( im running spartan at the moment) is just guna ruin my truck. no way it will last over 2 years they tell me whether i run it hard or not, they just say keep it stock its the best way to go ha...what is yalls take. give me some good comebacks lol ive run out

Odds are their "logic" is completely anecdotal. They have no hard facts. Ask for FACTS not "well, my brother did X back in '79 and it blewed up in 3 days!" They'll have nothing for you. I had a '00 lightning that I bought with 54k miles on it, and sold with 120k after dailing driving it for 3 years. The entire time I owned it, it was making double the stock boost. Seems to me it lasted just fine.....

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