but goit to take my son to london for the eventing.....so would not have enough time to hobble back from the lakedistrict to south wales and then pack the car up again and travel to the big city for the event............

I did look carefully at it but it was cutting things too fine and taking into account the exhaustion afterwards......i felt it wouldn't be fair on my son to mess up his one trip

We have athletics tickets too, but had forgotten about the Olympics starting then. To be fair I'd be so nervous for the organisers about the ceremony that am kind of glad I can't watch it - people will just be ready to pounce on anything they don't like or anything at all really.

Will take a look at SNOD forum (guess I may learn there what SNOD stands for - apologies if it's really obvious - I'm not sharpest knife in the drawer today).

To be honest I don't know either... I always thought it was something to do with Snowdonia marathon! There are a handful of people who post in there doing either the 100 or the 50. Most have done it before so might be some useful info for you if you require it.

It's just a sub-thread of the Snowdonia marathon thread (affectionately known as SNOD for some reason - I don't know why) of people who run or have run in Snowdonia and want to talk about ultras but don't want to overwhelm people training for a marathon.

Hi KarenK - in terms of trashing my legs I think road marathons always got me more than ultras. Guess this is down to change of terrain, gradient and also that people tend to walk the uphills at a decent pace as it is more efficient than trying to run them with an increasingly shorter stride (obviously if your name is Lizzie Hawker or Jez Bragg this walking business doesn't apply to you!).

You will be fine if you can do road marathons. Just go off easy and bet you'll think pace is easy compared to pegging round a road marathon.

My one bit of advice is, that if you can, reccie the route, especially the leg from Ambleside to Coniston. If you can only do one reccie that is the bit to do as for most mortals a chunk of it is in darkness and there are one or two tricky bits of nav (well tricky when it's claggy/dark/your shattered/all three).

Looking forward to the 50, it's awesome. Hoping to get out and reccie next year as didn't do this year's race so my memory of route a bit hazy.

I've tried to choose plenty of trail races between now and then but as of now I've very little proper trail experience so when I think about it I start to feel very out of my depth!!

Has anyone done any of the official recce days? Are they good? My biggest concern with them is that I'll be too slow to keep up. Realistically I imagine I'll have to walk a fair amount of the race especially past the half way mark.

KarenK - I did 3 of the recces for this years 100. They are good. basically you all meet at the finish point, there is a coach that picks everyone up and drops off at the start point of the recce. You all set off and there are checkpoints set up where they will be in the race. Generally people end up in groups with others that are at the same pace. You wont be left behind thats for sure and the checkpoints are set up until the last people are through, with people waiting at the finish of the recce too.

Saturday night they normally have a guest speaker discussing various perts of training from previous race winners experiences to nutrition experts etc.

Recovering nicely from the dublin marathon. Im doing the Rosedale Rumble (13 mile) in a few weeks. That will really be my 1st taste of a trail run with some significant elevation. Really looking forward to it! Will be starting my Ultra training plan in early January - bascially just adding on another long run so I have 2 each weekend and tryig to find some hills!!

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