brumby33 wrote:In regards to camp cookers, Anthonyo mentioned in his post about the mini Trangia...I had a look at those but preferred the slightly larger 27-2 and even though larger, those front ortleib bags have a fair bit of room in them, I don' think i'd be too large considering all the gear fits into each other.I missed out on the Anaconda special at $95 so i'll await for it to com around again.

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brumby33

I too have been happy enough with my Trangia set.

The bike packers in here need something much more diminutive though for their kit.

I think theres room to learn from their kistset choices as even for us pannier folk, theres opportunities to swap things out in order to find room for a few luxuries.

I've been considering a newer sleeping bag that has the same warmth rating as my old one, packs smaller and is 300g lighter overall.

Getting back to stoves and cooking gear its not simply the bulk of the "stove" that can be improved upon.

I only recently took note of the spent fuel usage of stoves like Andrews Caldera Cone which appears very economical in usage.

anthonyo wrote:May I suggest the Trangia 28-T Mini Cook Set as it packs up really small and light at 330 grams. It comes with a 0.8 litre pot. As there is only one pot, I boil water for a cuppa first and then make the breakfast porridge or evening meal. It is $75 at Anaconda but not on special.

Had one for years but found it took too long to boil a pot so kept on using the bigger Trangia. Am sure that it was inefficient due to the wind blowing the flames around. Now that I started touring with my dog, space is more important, so I thought about using the mini again. I bought a titanium windshield and this fixed the problem. There is flareup if the shield is too close to the unit so have to be careful to make the gap even. Works well.

Interested you are touring with your dog. I bet he loves it. Does he limit much the places you can stay? How do you carry him?

He travels in a Basil dog basket that I have reinforced and bolted to the rear rack. As I can't pack anything on the rear rack, I now use back panniers on the front and was able to squeeze everything on but the sleeping bag was ultra small and too cold so I'm looking at a smaller tent and a quilt to save space. I have an Extrawheel trailer which is great but found that trying to manage a bicycle, panniers, trailer and a dog on a V/Line train was too much in the brief time they stop. I need to keep the conductors happy as the basket is a "non approved basket". The basket is supposed to be one suitable for international air travel which is overkill for a short train trip.

Because he is not an outside dog, I cannot use "dog friendly" accommodation so have to use a tent. A tent can be too hot in summer so I'm going to trial using a tarp over the tent.

I'm currently humming and ha'ing over the purchase of one of these units myself.For those like me, wanting to relax, do some more research without the pressure of the looming drop ending, be aware that the item can be bought for a few dollars more but with a cheaper shipping cost via amazon.http://www.amazon.com/SteriPEN-Recharge ... ipen+ultra

I offer this info not to detract from the Massdrop offering Andrew has pointed out, which has come up now for the second time recently, but to inform of a closely priced alternative should you need a little more time to be convinced.

"Excellent quality dry bag. Take kayaking, fishing, on sports days when chucking down or use it as a flotation device to Bear Grylls it across a river. Free shipping. Use code "winter" on checkout for 50% off for the BLACK 30L drybag ONLY."

If you're not familiar with Uniqlo might be worth checking a store.The down, merino and Heattech is all very light-weight and may or may not be what you are expecting.The 'sweaters' could almost be considered a next-to-skin layer and if you are used to typical cotton tshirts Heattech will feel very thin in comparison.

Prices are the usually the same online and in store.However with free shipping over $50, online would be useful if you have a discount code from the recent promotion

.. You'll get 5.6% cash back from Cashrewards(cashrewards.com.au)… but their online return policy may not be the best."

FWIW, I exclusively wore airism and heattech tops cycle touring in Japan (Honshu in spring with an unseasonal cold spell in the minami alps region) and added arm warmers / rain jackets / etc as required. The airism stuff is tops for warmer weather, and the new generation heat tech looks even better than before, a mix of warm/extra warm and long/short is good to have.

The airism jocks are supposed to be just as great as the tops. I had the non airism seamless ones that were still pretty good for a day in the saddle.

Blakeylonger wrote:FWIW, I exclusively wore airism and heattech tops cycle touring in Japan (Honshu in spring with an unseasonal cold spell in the minami alps region) and added arm warmers / rain jackets / etc as required. The airism stuff is tops for warmer weather, and the new generation heat tech looks even better than before, a mix of warm/extra warm and long/short is good to have.

The airism jocks are supposed to be just as great as the tops. I had the non airism seamless ones that were still pretty good for a day in the saddle.

Good to know about the Heattech.

I was looking for Airism jocks following a review in Wirecutter but apparently they are no longer available anymore, at least at Uniqlo Australia.

For those interested in the down jacket there is a bit more on it at Snarky Nomad. Weight is around 198 grams and it packs down to not much more than a hand size package.

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rifraf wrote:The bike packers in here need something much more diminutive though for their kit.

If a mini trangia is too bulky one needs to look at general issue & special forces gear. (e.g. various hexamine stoves). But even some armies think the Trangia's fine for general issue. YMMV

Sorry for not being clearer in my post.I have and use a Trangia, I think from memory a HA 27 series.My post related to these, which the OP (brumby33) whom I responded to, was also using and not the mini version.But yes, the bike packers are looking to push the envelope more akin to the ultralight bushwalkers.More diminutive gas burners e.g. Kovea Spider and Kovea Ti, as well as Caldera Cones etc and their ilk are more "order of the day" as opposed to the well proven and KISS oriented Trangia's of old.Ti framed wood burners as seen on Massdrop are getting serious attention as they fold flat and easily fit within the frame bags that are ever more likely to be utilised as opposed to the more familiar traditional panniers.

Not for me as I have ordered a Toaks 850 ml pot which is similar design but if you are looking for a good one person option this Vargo Titanium Ti-Lite Mug at 750ml might be worth a look. Massdrop have it going out the door at ~$69 delivered. Weight at 105g is about the same as other similar pots.

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