I hope nobody is going to give up on M&M8. It really is the easiest of the M&Ms (if you have 3 dragons, that is!) Magic, I was going to suggest Invisibility in the planes. I used it in the Plane of water, but in the air, earth, & fire planes, I just killed everything!

I ordered Oblivion, but probably won't get it until Monday. Can't wait!

Barb

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Making progress finally. I have the heart of air. It was tough getting through without touching an enemy and my invisibilty spell wore off at the final room, so we fought our way through and survived. Need to put more points into that skill. On to the water heart.

I have the earth and air heart. I'm in water right now and can't find it. Any clues anyone???? I got earth and air fighting my way and didn't use invisiblity, but I've been to the fire plane and know I'll need it there.Barb, when I got to a certain part of the game I didn't want to pick up another dragon or anyone else for that matter. It took to long to get them what they needed. Of course I have the Knight, Cleric for healing and cures, Cauri for her magic and strength and Stormlance I think his name is.Can't wait to get Oblivion. Pokey did you play the previous games? Can't remember what they were called.

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I got the water heart fairly easily. Just sneaked by, but I am having trouble with the earth heart. Got off the elevator and the stairs are blocked by the enemy so I can't slip by. Fighting doesn't work even with two dragons. Any ideas?

The water heart is NE of where you enter, but you have to go NW and then SE first to get around a barrier. Yes, I played Morrowind--good game.

I got it! Took some spellcasting and quick retreats--lots of them. I couldn't have done it without Lloyd's Beacon to return to where the heart was each time. Now for some looting--lots of treasure and I need gold to pay for teaching.

I think I remember. If you click on your map once into the castle look on your right, upstairs and you will see a spiral. There is no marker but I pressed on the wall and it open around that spiral looking thing. Hope that helps.

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I am in the long room with hanging walkways and a lava fall at the other end. I can't make the jump on the side walkways. I did try going down the middle walkway and up the last support, but that hasn't worked yet. Any ideas are appreciated, but I need to stay invisible.

Pokey, you only need to get the heart of fire right? I'm going back now. How many dragons do you have? I only have one because I didn't feel like training another party member this late in the game. I am at the war room I think it's called. Nothing there but a hot plate and I go to the upstairs and nothing is there. I found out I could cast invisible again as long as no one is in sight. Somebody will drop in to give you a hand. I'll be back if I make any headway. Good luck.

I was going to buy oblivion today, but I don't think my computer can handle it. I may need a new video card.

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I have the heart of fire and am in the Plane between the Planes, in the castle. I used invisible to get here but the enemies are weak and few, so I'm just fighting them. Still have a few doors to open before I meet the Destroyer.

You probably don't need another dragon, but if you decide to get one, Brimstone is pretty powerful.

Good for you Pokey! Your moving right along. I am having a devil of a time in the plane of fire. I'm trying to progress and make my way back to the portal when my party is too bad off, but I can't get out of the portal. Is there a trick to getting out? I guess I could use Caurie teleport spell if she survived.

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I used invisibility until I got to the heart. I teleported back once but that was because I coudn't make the jump off the descending pillar. I just teleported out when it started descending and then made my way back and it was all the way down. It isn't hard to avoid the enemy when invisible.

I'm not sure what your problem is. Are you tryng to walk out? How far have you gotten in the castle of fire?

Invisibility is an easy way to get Brimstone too. Do you still have Stormlance? I would think he would be a handicap since he can't use spells. I have two dragons.

I've done three of the prisons. Only the water prison left which is giving me problems. I can't get across the lava without a vampire and levitate. I could have used the power heal for my cleric, but I never saw it come up to buy. Guess I'll teleport back, get a vampire, level her up to master and return. Maybe I can also use invisiblity.