If you search on here there is a lot of info on how to make one of the CA legal pistols.

But the short version is either find someone out of state that sells a 'single shot' AR Pistol (it will then be exempt from the handgun roster), then once you have the gun here it's legal to modify it any way you want, such as making it semi-auto (with a bullet button, EVEN if it's a rimfire).

The other way is to buy an 80% lower (http://www.ar15plus.com/) and make one yourself (and it also needs a bullet button). But be warned, it's a relatively simple thing to do, IF you have the right equipment and at least a little experience working/machining metal.

You just have to remember that you can NEVER sell or transfer that receiver and it can never have a stock put on it.

So it's easy, but it's not easy all at the same time. It also pretty expensive for a gun that doesn't have too many practical uses (says the guy with two AR pistols).

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If anyone has, I'm interested in a used 7.5" flat top pistol upper, new would be fine as well. I'll take it in almost any form but it doesn't need to have grips, flash hider, charging handle or bolt carrier group.

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[QUOTE=pacrimguru;2200101]updated pistol pics. i had the barrel shortened so that the kx-3 sinks back under the handguard a bit.

Very Nice, what's the specs on your pistol? Looking to build one after I sold my Professional Ordinance pistol way back. Whole lot of fun. What does it cost to build one like yours if you don't mind me asking.

Great looking pistol, just the right proportions I think, all the way around.

updated pistol pics. i had the barrel shortened so that the kx-3 sinks back under the handguard a bit.

Your dust cover is pure awesomeness

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Very Nice, what's the specs on your pistol? Looking to build one after I sold my Professional Ordinance pistol way back. Whole lot of fun. What does it cost to build one like yours if you don't mind me asking.

Great looking pistol, just the right proportions I think, all the way around.

thanks guys. here are even more updated pics of the pistol as it is now. i added the magpul MBUS sights. those other "updated" pics were actually taken a little while back.

From what I remember reading it is because the magazine is not in the grip, and on a pistol a detachable magazine has to be inserted into the grip to be legal here. Since this state defines a fixed magazine as one that requires a tool to remove, installing a bullet button means it no longer is capable of accepting a detachable magazine outside of the grip and thus is legal...or so the current popular interpretation of the law goes.

If I am wrong please correct me. I am by no means an expert on pistol ARs.

There is a flow chart showing what is and is not allowed on pistol ARs somewhere here. Do a search for it and you will learn all you need to know. Discussing it here is kind of hijacking the thread, since people want to see pictures here...and learn about the law there. Not trying to be rude, just trying to avoid being flamed by other members.

From what I remember reading it is because the magazine is not in the grip, and on a pistol a detachable magazine has to be inserted into the grip to be legal here. Since this state defines a fixed magazine as one that requires a tool to remove, installing a bullet button means it no longer is capable of accepting a detachable magazine outside of the grip and thus is legal...or so the current popular interpretation of the law goes.

If I am wrong please correct me. I am by no means an expert on pistol ARs.

There is a flow chart showing what is and is not allowed on pistol ARs somewhere here. Do a search for it and you will learn all you need to know. Discussing it here is kind of hijacking the thread, since people want to see pictures here...and learn about the law there. Not trying to be rude, just trying to avoid being flamed by other members.

You are correct. Since the magazine is outside of the pistol grip then you have to jump through all the hoops just like you would building an AR rifle.

The upside of this is that once you put the BB in, you also don't have to worry about all the other CA restrictions on what is 'legal' for a handgun, such as a threaded barrel.

The BB rule also applies to rimfire in the case of pistols (where they are exempt from all the BS on a rifle). This is do to the slightly different wording in the laws. With regard to rifles, the law makes a clear difference between a center-fire and a rim-fire, but when it comes to pistols, that important differentiation is missing, hence I have a BB on my .22 AR pistol.

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The .22 conversion is just the bcg correct? Do you have a cap in place of where the buffer tube is supposed to go? would it still fire .22 without a cap there? i ask cuz i want to shoot .22lr without the buffertube, but dont have a cap for the area where the tube screws in (spikes tactical sells one but is sold out).... Will it work without that cap?

I personally wouldn't fire the gun without the cap in place. The cap and butt plate need to be installed so the takedown detent, spring and takedown pin are held in place not to mention it unsafe to have the bcg rear open even though its held in place by contact of the upper/rear portion of the bcg to the lower, all it takes is one incident and your lights would be out.

In the photo the rear cap was not installed, its at the machine shop being anodized. If anyone is interested I am thinking of making some extra butt caps for the .22 AR pistol conversions. They will be low profile, very similar to the Sig P556 pistol butt caps but will be able to be installed and removed very easily unlike the P556's cap.

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I personally wouldn't fire the gun without the cap in place. The cap and butt plate need to be installed so the takedown detent, spring and takedown pin are held in place not to mention it unsafe to have the bcg rear open even though its held in place by contact of the upper/rear portion of the bcg to the lower, all it takes is one incident and your lights would be out.

In the photo the rear cap was not installed, its at the machine shop being anodized. If anyone is interested I am thinking of making some extra butt caps for the .22 AR pistol conversions. They will be low profile, very similar to the Sig P556 pistol butt caps but will be able to be installed and removed very easily unlike the P556's cap.

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