Dr. Marijah McCain is a naturopath, master
herbalist, homeopath and research microscopist with a following of a quarter
million students and customers. Dr. McCain covered
the following topics in this interview:

ESSIAC FOR SKIN PROBLEMS

ESSIAC FOR DETOXIFICATION

ESSIAC IS NON TOXIC

ESSIAC AND CHEMOTHERAPY

ESSIAC, ARTHRITIS AND OXALIC ACID

ESSIAC AND
DIABETES

ESSIAC AND THE
IMMUNE SYSTEM

ESSIAC AND
DEPRESSION

ESSIAC AND ASTHMA

SURVIVING WEAPONS
OF MASS DESTRUCTION

Question: “How long have you been using Essiac?”

Dr. McCain: “I would guess probably about
seven years. I made it available for my students to try. I didn’t
come right out and say it was going to be any good. I asked my students
if they wanted to give it a try. My students started to try it and the
feedback was just absolutely unbelievable.”

Question: “What kind of feedback did you get?”

ESSIAC FOR SKIN
PROBLEMS

Dr. McCain: “The very first call I got
was from a chiropractor who had a patient that had psoriasis for eight years.
And she just put the patient on it because she just decided she’d give it a
shot and it cleared up the psoriasis. They had never been able to clear
up the psoriasis in eight years. So the first testimonials were not
cancer testimonials. The first testimonials were actually skin problem
testimonials, which was really remarkable. The first cancer testimonial
I had was from a man in Arkansas and he had terminal lung cancer. One of
my students had given him the tea to try and it had cured his lung cancer and
he had done nothing else. There was no other supplements taken—nothing
else—all he did was take the tea. And I thought: Oh, my Goodness,
we’re seriously on to something here. So then in the next newsletter,
with about six or seven testimonials that I had in hand from my students, I
said okay I’m going to offer this. I’m not going to make any claims on
it, but if you guys want to try it here it is, and it just went berserk.
We sent out testimonial sheets for about the first five years every time we
sent out the tea. I have testimonial sheets that would fill a closet on
this tea. It was really shocking to me because it wasn’t just the cancer
and I couldn’t understand how come we were getting so many different
testimonials. We had one lady call in. She had these awful white
patches all over her skin and she took the tea and the white patches turned
hard and they all peeled off and her skin went back to normal. Which was
really remarkable because she had that for years and years. We had
another elderly person who had lost all their hair. They took the tea,
the hair grew back, but not only did the hair grow back, the hair grew back
brown. When they lost their hair, it was gray.

“These testimonials were blowing my mind
because I was trying to figure out what in the world this tea was doing in
order to have such broad-based positive health effects on so many different
things. So I started to investigate, seriously, the burdock root—see
what was in it. Everybody reported better energy when they took the tea.
Well, come to find out burdock root is very high in iron, in natural iron that
is easily assimilable in the body. So that was good. It was a
blood builder, but the primary function of it is that it is a liver cleanser.
The liver, of course, filters the blood system and when it’s toxic, the immune
system starts to fail. This is what was so profound about this tea
because as soon as you started to cleanse the liver the immune system would
kick in and it would pretty much fix whatever the problem was in the person.
That’s what I found so mind-boggling about this tea. It wasn’t just for
cancer; it’s our number one formula now that we use for any kind of skin
ailment, hives, psoriasis, especially acne. It works wonders with acne
because the skin is the last eliminatory organ. So when the liver is
toxic, the poisons start coming out the skin. As soon as you detox the
liver, the skin goes back to normal. I’ve got years and years of
experience with this. It’s just mind-boggling.”

ESSIAC FOR
DETOXIFICATION

Question: “What other conditions does Essiac
help?”

Dr. McCain: “I had a little guy, a child
that was seriously poisoned with SEVIN dust [a garden pesticide]. What
happened was this child got very, very ill—been to all the doctors and
everything—and they had called me and she described the symptoms. And I
had said to her: Listen, it sounds to me like there is some type of
poisoning with this child. They had tried every antibiotic, everything
with this kid, and the kid was just getting sicker and sicker and sicker.
I put the child on the four-herb tea and that was it. Once the chemicals
were detoxed out of the body the child recovered and came back to normal.
So there was a case where the child was poisoned with a chemical poisoning and
it was affecting the liver and the blood system and the neurological system.
The child was having neurological symptoms as well. So those types of
poisonings—chemical, pesticides, that type of thing that localize in the
liver—the four-herb tea helps those as well. Which is pretty remarkable.

“And also I don’t know if you want to mention
this or not, because it is very, very controversial, but I have had an awful
lot of children who had been given the MMR vaccine and DPT shots and they have
manifested symptoms to the extreme of autism where they can’t talk any more
and they have serious learning disorders. I formulated homeopathic
formulas to counter-balance these vaccines, but I also put these children on
the four-herb tea. And my most dramatic case was a case in China where
the child, after having received the vaccine, quit speaking, would run around
on his tippy-toes, bang his head up against the wall. It was a very,
very sad case because the child was normal before they got the vaccine.
It took about ten months. I worked with these people. As a matter
of fact that was what sparked me to have the MMR detox made up, the actual
homeopathic done. And I had sent that over to China and we eventually
restored that child to health. But part of the protocol was using the
four-herb tea. I did use some other things as well. These are
very, very dramatic cases where the medical doctors have no solutions
whatsoever.”

Question: “Yeah, except drugs.”

Dr. McCain: “Well, yeah, that child would
have been institutionalized. They would have had to lock that child up.
So I really went out of my way to try to save that child and since then have
saved a lot of children.

NO TOXICITY PROBLEMS
WITH ESSIAC

“I’ve got to tell you this about the toxicity
levels of it [Essiac]. When we very first started making the tea, I got
an emergency phone call. A parent had made the tea and put it in the
refrigerator and had left the house with a babysitter and a six-month old
baby. Well, the babysitter thought it was iced tea, went into the frig
and filled up an eight-ounce bottle, gave it to the six-month old baby--that’s
an eight-ounce bottle of four-herb tea, straight (i.e., undiluted)—and drank
two glasses herself. The parent called me, absolutely flipped out of
their mind, okay. We monitored the baby for two days—absolutely no toxic
side effect at all. So there is the testimonial on the toxicity.
No toxicity from this product [Essiac]. We have never, ever, not one
time in all these years, had a toxic reaction to that tea. Not one.

ESSIAC AND
CHEMOTHERAPY

“It’s unbelievable. The worse thing that
happened is that we’ve had people that have had a lot of drugs, a lot of
chemotherapy, etcetera, they’ll start off on the tea three times a day, they
might get a mild headache because the body is detoxing so quickly. We
back them up; we tell them to start off just once a day and build up to it
over a couple of weeks. But that’s the very worse thing. And we’ve
given it to so many people and people have given it to dogs and cats and you
name it over the years. We’ve sold thousands and thousands and thousands
of packages of this tea and have had tremendous amounts of feedback and so I’m
very, very familiar with this tea. The original instructions were two
ounces in a little bit of warm water three times a day. We have
increased that because we know there’s no toxicity, so we do tell people if
they want to they can increase it to four or five times a day. I had one
lady who had breast cancer who called me and said she drank a quart a day.
And she did heal herself of breast cancer, by the way, but she was drinking a
tremendous amount more than what the recommended doses were. So people
do what they want even if you do give them instructions, but I wouldn’t
recommend that because people take a lot more supplements now. When we
very first started out with this tea, that was all we had and mostly people
just took the tea. Now we have a lot of other things, people are much
more educated—the antioxidants and they added a lot of other things as well.
You can overwhelm the body when it’s trying to heal itself, if you add too
many things.”

ESSIAC, ARTHRITIS AND
OXALIC ACID

Question: “Some people bring up the oxalic acid in sheep sorrel…”

Dr. McCain: “I believe that’s in the
turkey rhubarb as well. The only thing that is contraindicated for is an
arthritic-type condition, an acidic condition. Interestingly enough, in
my research most people with cancer do not have arthritis and vice versa.
That’s not a law, but it’s pretty common, a general trend. We don’t
normally recommend the tea for arthritic conditions because we’ve got so many
other things that benefit arthritis much better. And if they do have to
take the tea, we recommend that they just add in a calcium supplement, that’s
all. Because an arthritic condition is an acidic condition and the
oxalic acid makes it a little bit acidic. It can aggravate it [Essiac] a
little bit, but it’s not harmful; it just doesn’t cure it. People report
that they’re a little stiffer, so we supplement calcium and we don’t have a
problem with the stiffness. It’s just the stiffness. They get
pain--when they get arthritis they ache. The calcium counterbalances
that. That’s what an arthritic condition is, is the body is not getting
enough calcium and is pulling calcium from the bones. So you have to
supplement calcium and then you don’t have a problem, unless it’s an arthritic
condition caused by infection. There’s a couple different causes, but
most common is lack of calcium.”

ESSIAC AND DIABETES

Question: “Have you noticed a lot of people with
diabetes with testimonials about Essiac?”

Dr. McCain: “Absolutely. The
four-herb tea was really good. As a matter of fact we had to put a
warning in there. People who were on insulin that were taking the tea
needed to monitor their blood sugar because sometimes the pancreas would kick
back in, but not all the time it would. Let’s say, for instance, the
person had been on insulin for fifteen years. The chances of the
pancreas kicking back in are going to be a lot slimmer than if a person has
just come down with diabetes. Follow? Let’s hypothetically say
this person is on a fixed dose of insulin a day and we do give them the tea
and the pancreas does start to kick in. They’ve got to monitor that
sugar, otherwise they will get an insulin shock because their body does not
need that much insulin. Any time we give it to a diabetic patient we
have to make sure that they watch their sugar because if their sugar drops
down they don’t need to be taking their massive doses of their drugs.
They’ve got to be careful. Follow? The tea did in fact sometimes
make very radical improvements in people that were diabetics. We’ve had
people come off the insulin with the Essiac, but those are people who are very
strict about not eating sugar. The problem with diabetics is that they
go to their doctor and the doctor tells them that they’re diabetic and they
give them insulin shots and they go home and eat their Twinkies. They
continue to eat sugar, that’s where the problem is. They’ve got to stop
eating sugar. And the people that will quit eating sugar, change their
diet and then work with the tea and some other supplements like vanadium.
They found that vanadium is deficient in diabetics. The chromium
picolinate really helps. If they will work with their supplements they
can reverse it. But they can’t reverse it if they won’t change their
diet. [Dr. Banting, a co-discover of insulin, also found a correlation
between Essiac, insulin, and the pancreas.]

ESSIAC AND THE IMMUNE
SYSTEM

“We have people that are perfectly healthy take
it [Essiac] just as a maintenance and they’ll swear that they don’t get colds
any more. They’ll swear that they feel better. They take it just
once a day. Another thing is longevity. I have a customer who had
terminal cancer in 1996 and he started taking the four-herb tea. They
had given him a very short time to live and this is 2003. You could
never convince this man to stop taking the tea. So people ask me if it’s
safe for long-term use. You bet.

ESSIAC AND DEPRESSION

"We’re in some serious, troubled times and this
government and this medical system, etc., they’re not her to save people, I
can tell you that. That much I know. People have got to save
themselves. And the problem is they get so depressed.

“That’s another thing. I’ve got to tell you—make sure you put this in
your article because this is so important now. Depression—the liver
works with the chemical balances, the chemical balances in the body. And
the doctors tell you it’s the brain that gets chemically imbalanced. But
it actually has to do with the liver and the toxicity levels. So we have
worked with this four-herb tea [Essiac] with so many people that are suffering from
depression—serious, serious depression—and it will bring them right out of it
once they detox. Let’s hypothetically say—God forbid—let’s take an
example of a person whose mother just drops dead or is murdered. They go
into such a terrible state of shock. They cry for days. The body
releases all these chemicals and it poisons the system. [Toxins are stored in
the fat tissues in the body and can be released at any time.] It poisons
the body. They become lethargic, they become depressed, they won’t get
out of the bed. They go to the doctor. The doctor says you need
Prozac, you need this, you need that, and they keep poisoning the body.
The body keeps getting poisoned until they eventually become suicidal and
sometimes they even have to be institutionalized. At any point in time
in that scenario if you will put them on the four-herb tea, they will see an
immediate improvement within two weeks. They will start to feel better.
Their brains will start to clear. They will have more energy.
They’ll start to get their lives back and then you start to add in some other
supplements. But I have brought people back from just the edge of what I
would call ‘darkness’. Because I do understand that it’s a poison
situation. They’ve actually poisoned themselves. Do you follow
me?”

ESSIAC AND ASTHMA

Question: “I’ve been there. I had very
serious, chronic asthma and those inhalers were poisoning me. I didn’t
realize it until I went off the inhalers. The first thing I did was move
out of the city and the pollution, then I could breathe better, immediately.
Then I started taking St. John’s wort because I read where it was good for
asthma. After several months on the St. John’s wort, I went off the
inhalers. I really didn’t do anything else.”

Dr. McCain: “Well, see, St. John’s wort
is also a liver cleanser. It’s primary action is to cleanse the liver.
So there you have a liver cleanser working again. This is why it’s so
valuable, the St. John’s wort.”

Question: “Well, I finally went off the
inhalers. But before that the doctors wanted to put me on Prozac as a
solution to counteract the symptoms I was having from the toxins in the
inhalers. Now I just drink Essiac tea every day and I haven't had any
problems with asthma.” [Also, Dr. Gary Glum
successfully treated his chronic bronchitis with Essiac.]

SURVIVING WEAPONS OF
MASS DESTRUCTION

Dr. McCain: “In order to survive, the
people—what I call the remnant, or the people that really will survive—are the
ones that are going to be able to pull themselves up and look after themselves
and understand these principles. God really moved me to help save the
remnant. That was why I started this whole business. That’s why I
started with herbology to teach people how to use the herbs, teach them how to
grow them, teach them how to put them in their back yard so they could look
after themselves. And this was twenty years ago I had this burden.
I saw it coming.”

I asked Dr. McCain what herbs or supplements
are most effective in surviving weapons of mass destruction. She
indicated that colloidal silver would be at the top of the list because of its
antimicrobial properties. Olive leaf extract is second on the list
because of its antiviral properties. The four-herb tea is necessary to
detoxify the liver, kidneys, etc. Dr. McCain indicated that other
microbials such as grapefruit seed extract and oil of oregano are also very
effective.

Dr. McCain: “For instance, let’s take
smallpox as an example. Smallpox is a virus. I wouldn’t stake my
life on colloidal silver with smallpox. I would use colloidal silver as
well as the antivirals. Olive leaf was tested in Israel and was even
found to nail polio one, two and three. And it was found to nail most of
the influenzas that they researched. So this is a very powerful
anti-viral and smallpox is a virus. Now you take anthrax, a simple
bacteria, which is nailed very quickly with a pharmaceutical grade colloidal
silver. But let me tell you how the four-herb tea fits into this.
Let’s say you get exposed to smallpox today. You have virtually no
symptoms for a couple of days. You might feel like you have a little bit
of flu, but it will go back down in the body where you won’t really manifest
anything for maybe seven days. In that seven days that virus is
replicating in your body and by the time you start to get a rash it has
completely taken over the liver and the kidneys. The liver and the
kidneys are so toxic that the toxins are starting to come out the skin and
this is why you’re getting the skin rash. So what I say is if there is
any chance of exposure you want to be on the four-herb tea immediately.
Keep that liver and those kidneys detoxing. Get your antiviral in
there—your olive leaf extract and your colloidal silver. Make sure that
you don’t have any constipation—that everything is flowing through and you
won’t get deathly sick; it’s impossible. Because it’s just a virus and
if you allow it to replicate in there it’s liable to kill you. But if
you don’t and you get after it and you push it through, it won’t. Do you
understand what I am saying? So this is where the value of the four-herb
tea comes in. Because the four-herb tea helps cleanse the liver and
takes the load out of the system.”

Question: “Does the olive leaf extract keep the virus from penetrating
the cell, like elderberry does?”

Dr. McCain: “No, it stops the virus from
replicating. You need something to stop it from replicating because the
cells are continually replacing themselves every day—they’re always dying.
So if you can stop from replicating, then the cells that are contaminated will
die off. This is why we’ve been able to help people with herpes and
hepatitis. Over six months to a year we’ve been able to eradicate
hepatitis. And the medical doctors say that’s impossible. But
antivirals have to be used for long term if you have a chronic virus like HIV,
herpes, those types of things. You have to be on them on a regular basis
because they’re spurred—like they can sit in the cell for a long time—and
they’re spurred by say trauma, shock, upset, emotional, you know, where they
have an outbreak, where the virus is opportunistic and it waits until the
immune system has been hit and then out it comes. Do you follow?”

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