Upgraded the following packages:bsdutils (1:2.20.1-5.3) to 1:2.20.1-5.4cdrdao (1:1.2.3-1) to 1:1.2.3-2console-setup (1.92) to 1.93console-setup-linux (1.92) to 1.93cpp-4.7 (4.7.3-3) to 4.7.3-4desktop-file-utils (0.20-0.1) to 0.21-1dialog (1.1-20120215-3) to 1.2-20121230-1g++-4.7 (4.7.3-3) to 4.7.3-4gcc-4.7 (4.7.3-3) to 4.7.3-4gcc-4.7-base (4.7.3-3) to 4.7.3-4gcc-4.8-base (4.8.0-6) to 4.8.0-7gedit (3.4.2-1) to 3.4.2-1+b1gir1.2-freedesktop (1.36.0-2) to 1.36.0-2+b1gir1.2-glib-2.0 (1.36.0-2) to 1.36.0-2+b1gir1.2-peas-1.0 (1.4.0-2) to 1.4.0-2+b1gir1.2-totem-1.0 (3.0.1-8) to 3.0.1-8+b1gjs (1.32.0-5) to 1.32.0-5+b1gnome-shell (3.4.2-7) to 3.4.2-7+b1keyboard-configuration (1.92) to 1.93libbit-vector-perl (7.2-1) to 7.2-2libblkid1 (2.20.1-5.3) to 2.20.1-5.4libc-bin (2.17-1) to 2.17-2libc-dev-bin (2.17-1) to 2.17-2libc6 (2.17-1) to 2.17-2libc6-dev (2.17-1) to 2.17-2libcairo-perl (1.090-2) to 1.103-2libgbm1 (8.0.5-4) to 8.0.5-4+b1libgcc-4.7-dev (4.7.3-3) to 4.7.3-4libgcc1 (1:4.8.0-6) to 1:4.8.0-7libgfortran3 (4.8.0-6) to 4.8.0-7libgirepository-1.0-1 (1.36.0-2) to 1.36.0-2+b1libgjs0b (1.32.0-5) to 1.32.0-5+b1libgl1-mesa-dri (8.0.5-4) to 8.0.5-4+b1libgl1-mesa-glx (8.0.5-4) to 8.0.5-4+b1libglapi-mesa (8.0.5-4) to 8.0.5-4+b1libglib-perl (3:1.260-1) to 3:1.280-2libglib2.0-0 (2.36.1-2) to 2.36.1-2build1libglib2.0-bin (2.36.1-2) to 2.36.1-2build1libglib2.0-data (2.36.1-2) to 2.36.1-2build1libglu1-mesa (8.0.5-4) to 8.0.5-4+b1libgomp1 (4.8.0-6) to 4.8.0-7libitm1 (4.8.0-6) to 4.8.0-7liblensfun-data (0.2.5-2) to 0.2.7-2liblensfun0 (0.2.5-2) to 0.2.7-2libmount1 (2.20.1-5.3) to 2.20.1-5.4libopenvg1-mesa (8.0.5-4) to 8.0.5-4+b1libopus0 (0.9.14+20120615-1+nmu1) to 1.1~alpha+20130512-1libpeas-1.0-0 (1.4.0-2) to 1.4.0-2+b1libquadmath0 (4.8.0-6) to 4.8.0-7libseed-gtk3-0 (3.2.0-2) to 3.2.0-2+b1libstdc++6 (4.8.0-6) to 4.8.0-7libstdc++6-4.7-dev (4.7.3-3) to 4.7.3-4libtotem0 (3.0.1-8) to 3.0.1-8+b1libuuid1 (2.20.1-5.3) to 2.20.1-5.4locales (2.17-1) to 2.17-2medit (1.0.93-1) to 1.1.1-2mount (2.20.1-5.3) to 2.20.1-5.4multiarch-support (2.17-1) to 2.17-2python-gobject-2 (2.28.6-12) to 2.28.6-12+b1python-xapian (1.2.12-2) to 1.2.15-2totem (3.0.1-8) to 3.0.1-8+b1totem-mozilla (3.0.1-8) to 3.0.1-8+b1totem-plugins (3.0.1-8) to 3.0.1-8+b1util-linux (2.20.1-5.3) to 2.20.1-5.4uuid-runtime (2.20.1-5.3) to 2.20.1-5.4

Have you had any problems with this upgrade? I'm getting a couple of bugs showing up within grub2 when I dist-upgrade:

I saw the reported bugs but let grub2 update. No serious issues with a quad boot. Only thing noted is with Grub-Customizer. It no longer lets me choose a custom background picture. The one I had been using for many months no longer loads, nor any other I try. It always defaults to std. background. I still can edit text, order, hide entries, et. Not a big issue.

I'm not entirely sure if there are any differences in any of the other files that would also need to be made in order to have Alacarte fully functioning again, so it's definitely easier just to grab the package from the GNOME 3 PPA here, if you would prefer to use it.

I can only imagine Alacarte will eventually be brought up-to-date in Debian for GNOME 3.8 and the changes to the GI repository that are currently breaking the GNOME 3.6 version, but until then borrowing the up-to-date package from the Ubuntu GNOME 3 PPA works.

and one observation, from testing them over 4 computers.Mint15RC cannot boot two of the 4 computerskubuntu/netrunner have lots of kernel panic on their default 3.8.0-19/2x kernel.xubuntu, still similar to last few release, always busy asking me to send crash report.

a quick test on netrunner 1306 beta installing kernel 3.9.3 resolved kernel panic for the last 10 reboots.have been playing with it for last few days.very nice distros

While I do not know what was the real issue on frequent kernel panic and crash over these computers ( yeah, may be just the hardware or me ), it seems to suggest kernel 3.8 is not too happy with these 4 computers... exception is Debian-xfce-sid, which is3.8-1-686-pae. I was thinking to install new Debian sid kernel but is holding on due to 'xfce-removal' as in above post.

wayne128 wrote:Separate subject: Kernel 3.8kubuntu/netrunner have lots of kernel panic on their default 3.8.0-19/2x kernel.xubuntu, still similar to last few release, always busy asking me to send crash report.

I have read that 3.8 kernel oops are a plague in Ubuntu land, particularly Xubuntu. I cannot confirm, my Xubuntu box with an AMD E350 has had no issues. My main desktop running Sid/Gnome-Shell with retrofitted Mint bits and a standard Debian 3.8 kernel is rock solid. I would expect Ubuntu to quickly fix whatever is causing the issue for them.

Anyway, I would not be assuming hardware in this case. Debian is in the process of updating to a newer gcc base which is probably why it wants to un-install xfce. A few days wait will probably fix the dependency issues.

On a different note Sid and a new 3.8 kernel on my notebook now loads Broadcom wifi without having to muck about with firmware or modprobe. That is a great leap forward (for me).

I have set the package xfce4-panel on hold. DU worked without removing xfce plugins.Icedove update removed the package icedove-l10n-de. I have installed l10n language packfrom experimental repos and it works.

On a different note Sid and a new 3.8 kernel on my notebook now loads Broadcom wifi without having to muck about with firmware or modprobe. That is a great leap forward (for me).

Thanks GregE.Tested more ( several distros with kernel 3. and it seems no hardware issues.A few distros suddenly stopped booting. Reinstall grub2 had zero effect.could have been more on kernel issues.So not going to stay with 3.8 ( except debian since it still have no issues after some 50-60 reboots).

Thanks GeneC , no rush..

Hi Wayne

Yes, XFCE 4.10 is coming into SID. Might be a little bumpy ride, with some hold-backs, if you see lots of removals best to wait a day or two and check again before DU.

Just me butting in for what it is worth, xfce4-goodies is a meta package that can be deleted without issue. I have never had any use for smartbook, verve or wavelan. Sensors would only be important if you actually run monitors. I guess I am suggesting that you let them get deleted if you do not actually have any use for them, but that is up to you. You can always re-install later.

Yes, xfce4-goodies has been removed from xfce 4.10 (I have been using xfce 4.10 from the siduction xfcenext repo for quite a few months now), and it looks like as such it will not make its way back. No big loss.. I would let them be removed, then you can add individual panel applets.

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root@debian:/home/wayne# apt-get install xfce4-sensors-pluginReading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency tree Reading state information... DoneSome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you haverequested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstabledistribution that some required packages have not yet been createdor been moved out of Incoming.The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies: xfce4-sensors-plugin : Depends: xfce4-panel (< 4.9) but 4.10.1-1 is to be installedE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.