tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-693179381503731530.post5374517719680317065..comments2017-12-02T11:21:06.836+01:00Comments on Yeshua, Hineni!: The Twelve Tribes in Germany, Part 8Yeshua Hineninoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-693179381503731530.post-89319664939197885872013-12-04T12:47:21.963+01:002013-12-04T12:47:21.963+01:00Oh btw, the custody battles on the TTs website tel...Oh btw, the custody battles on the TTs website tell of cases in the US and CAN. I know North Americas systems can be very very drastic but mostly upon private initiative (by spouse, parents, grandparents etc). Whereas in Germany, it is more of a nanny state thing, but they limit themselves to &quot;first aid&quot;. LittleProfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-693179381503731530.post-87234538954078439302013-12-03T20:36:27.321+01:002013-12-03T20:36:27.321+01:00That is so frustrating.
Back in the US, I don&#3...That is so frustrating. <br /><br />Back in the US, I don&#39;t believe a 17yo can seek that sort of help for themselves. It would be something that would be in the realm of the parents to do. If grandparents or other family members were upset enough, they could hire lawyers to fight for such a thing OR a judge could make a decision for someone to go through rigorous psychological care if they need it. I believe that is handled in family court, but I could be wrong. It&#39;s been a while since I followed such a case.<br /><br />This is so frustrating.Jennifer Stahlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02743446652837650401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-693179381503731530.post-17119642838478661202013-12-03T20:13:51.189+01:002013-12-03T20:13:51.189+01:00Reply to Jennifer: &quot;I do not understand how t...Reply to Jennifer: &quot;I do not understand how the seventeen year old is not being assisted to deprogram rather than being sent back to her abusive parents&quot;. <br />Unfortunately, that is not part of the German system when authorities deal with members of a cult or sect. Deprogramming is illegal here unless the (ex-)member is actively seeking help. In the case of the 17 year old, a therapy or counseling was not prescribed as the court had not reached a decision. The TT s website does tell of some interesting child custody battles between their members and an ex spouse and how aggressively the authorities and deprogrammers moved in. In one case, the TT father even was thrown in jail for kidnapping, and only after some savvy lawyers saved him after years and years of lawsuits did he get to see his children again. By then, they had snapped out of it and viewed their father as an oddball. As I said, German authorities are quick to move in and the state helps to take a child away from a situation of abuse. But the authorities don t go that extra mile. So Germany is a mixed bag in this regard. LittleProfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-693179381503731530.post-87645292534054800222013-12-03T20:05:53.592+01:002013-12-03T20:05:53.592+01:00Oh, somehow my comment crashed. Here it is once ag...Oh, somehow my comment crashed. Here it is once again, if it did arrive on the moderator&#39;s screen, fine. <br />One 15 year old boy who had absconded on Sat has been allowed to return to his parents. He made it clear to the judge that he has gone through some sort of initiation ritual that makes him an adult. So all corporal punishment ends. His 13 year old brother had to go back to a foster home but ran off and hid somewhere. His father knows where he is but refuses to tell the authorities. The police are out searching for him. http://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/donauwoerth/Zwoelf-Staemme-Polizei-sucht-nach-Buben-id27978832.htmlLittleProfnoreply@blogger.com