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what blows my mind is people rooting for only one console to succeed. that's insane.

but...i've never been a fanboi...i suppose it seems perfectly normal for those people.

When I was listening to the announcement I was thinking how awesome this gen is going to be and also thought about how stupid some people are about it.

If in the last gen either MS or Sony did not exist this current gen would not be anywhere near as amazing as this current gen is going to be. Xbox Live had been kicking butt and Sony had to do something they came up with the awesome PS+ model. This in turn has lead MS to improve the already great XBL experience and the consumer ends up winning big time.

And as a gaming enthusiast I don't see the desire to have absolute loyalty to any one company. You limit yourself and the industry by doing so. Obviously there is a big difference between needing to decide between one or the other because of money or not being such an avid gamer that you need both and just outright not even glancing at one or the other because you feel you have some odd higher purpose in the console war.

I think the console wars are great for the 18+ crowd who really drive to create better things on both sides and in the end help all gamers, but this kiddie console bashing garbage is just sad at this point. If you have no interest in one or the other, don't feel obligated to remind us you limit yourself.

Though Microsoft is offering a Kinect-free device, they said "Kinect remains an important part of our vision." They also found that 80 percent of their players already use Kinect actively, averaging 120 voice commands per month per player.

It is nice to see they are willing to listen to their customers. It didn't make sense to have a lot of the apps behind a pay wall.

I have mixed thoughts on the kinect-less Xbone. I know they had to do it to get the price point lower to squash that argument, but to me it seems like the voice commands would be one of the main benefits to owning a Xbone over the PS4. I guess people just don't want to be forced buy/use something.

If I were getting an Xbone I would pay the extra money for the kinect, but I don't think I would get the PS Eye unless I am not understanding the point of having it.

Kinect is not essential to the Xbox One experience BUT it certainly does make things more interesting and fun. I unhooked mine due to it catching a lot of ambient noise. It is cool to be able to turn the tv and stuff with the Kinect.

It is nice to see they are willing to listen to their customers. It didn't make sense to have a lot of the apps behind a pay wall.

I have mixed thoughts on the kinect-less Xbone. I know they had to do it to get the price point lower to squash that argument, but to me it seems like the voice commands would be one of the main benefits to owning a Xbone over the PS4. I guess people just don't want to be forced buy/use something.

If I were getting an Xbone I would pay the extra money for the kinect, but I don't think I would get the PS Eye unless I am not understanding the point of having it.

I'm actually surprised XB1 didn't have the kinect-less console to begin with.
To me I saw it as the premium version of a car, and not everyone wants the bells and whistles, they just want a car that will get them to where they want. 100 bucks extra also isn't very competitive. Having a 400 dollar XB1 would of made them more competitive with PS4. It's still early in the Gen, so there is still time for XB1 to right the ship.

Im sure when there is a voice command it sends that data back to xbox. That said an example voice command is "xbox on" and really everything up until hitting A to play the game is actuslly easier to control and quicker using the voice command

When I was listening to the announcement I was thinking how awesome this gen is going to be and also thought about how stupid some people are about it.

If in the last gen either MS or Sony did not exist this current gen would not be anywhere near as amazing as this current gen is going to be. Xbox Live had been kicking butt and Sony had to do something they came up with the awesome PS+ model. This in turn has lead MS to improve the already great XBL experience and the consumer ends up winning big time.

And as a gaming enthusiast I don't see the desire to have absolute loyalty to any one company. You limit yourself and the industry by doing so. Obviously there is a big difference between needing to decide between one or the other because of money or not being such an avid gamer that you need both and just outright not even glancing at one or the other because you feel you have some odd higher purpose in the console war.

I think the console wars are great for the 18+ crowd who really drive to create better things on both sides and in the end help all gamers, but this kiddie console bashing garbage is just sad at this point. If you have no interest in one or the other, don't feel obligated to remind us you limit yourself.

Its like this, coke and pepsi are competitors, they both have fan boys, but they both openly have stated they love the other because it drives sales and keeps them sharp. Xbox and PS both love each other because the fanboys keep them constantly talked about and compared and relevant, keeps the companies focused but keeps other competitors pretty irrelevant. Thus they pretty much own all of the market between the two

The PS2 sold 155 million units, compared to the next competitor, Xbox at 24 million units. That domination did not harm the industry, as evidenced by the following generation. There was not a single dominating platform last generation, with the Wii just above 100 million, PS3 slightly above 85 million, and the Xbox 360 just below 85 million, yet the industry expanded, too (PlayStation platforms have historically had long tails at the end. Don't be surprised if the PS3 surpasses Wii in a couple of years' time. Wii sales are practically nothing right now.). The industry can thrive in either situation.

By the way, I loved the original Xbox, too. It was progressive. It had a standard hard drive. It had the better performance. It had a more standardized network capability. More importantly, Microsoft was loyal to its software and PC roots. Then the 360 debacle happened, and now they're paying for it. Very few honestly feel bad for them right now.

The PS2 sold 155 million units, compared to the next competitor, Xbox at 24 million units. That domination did not harm the industry, as evidenced by the following generation. There was not a single dominating platform last generation, with the Wii just above 100 million, PS3 slightly above 85 million, and the Xbox 360 just below 85 million, yet the industry expanded, too (PlayStation platforms have historically had long tails at the end. Don't be surprised if the PS3 surpasses Wii in a couple of years' time. Wii sales are practically nothing right now.). The industry can thrive in either situation.

By the way, I loved the original Xbox, too. It was progressive. It had a standard hard drive. It had the better performance. It had a more standardized network capability. More importantly, Microsoft was loyal to its software and PC roots. Then the 360 debacle happened, and now they're paying for it. Very few honestly feel bad for them right now.

Cool story bro.

Hey, what are your thoughts on the yardcocks' upcoming series with vandy?

"This opens the door to a much smaller cooling assembly and a thinner chassis, which in turn leads to cost benefits throughout the whole manufacturing and distribution process," writes Leadbetter. "Smaller consoles mean less packaging, meaning cost savings in physically shipping the units out from China to retail markets worldwide."

Do people still play Titanfall? Just got an Xbox One and I am tempted to buy the game at that price.

Yeah that's a great price, just got my XBox One on Wed may have to pick this up as well to start building my library up.

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