Yes, ENFjs cause a lot of drama, but her whole vibe and the way she carries herself/speaks.. is so purely ESFj... very similar to a girl I know. I find them both fake, and it does explain my distate for her similar to Starfall's.

I've always liked Paris Hilton though =/ Not a very good thing to say, but it's true ... and this could also be explained by her being an ESFp

LOL Look at everybody pointing fingers away from their own quadras! You're all fucking pathetic! LOL

I actually admire Lindsay Lohan. I think she's kind of misunderstood with her constant partying and stuff like that. She's actually someone who works hard and plays hard at the same time. In fact, I don't really like Paris Hilton, partly because I'm envious of all she has and I have a distaste for people who do not have to work and have too much money in their own hands.

ESFjs are not appealing to me lately very much
(regardless of this girl's type)

how so? explain, pls

I've seen too many shallow ones lately, especially the very narrow minded, "I don't even want to hear talk about it - *leaves room* " brand.
Perfectionist-ic ESFjs brighten my day a bit more.
The really shallow ones depress me. But obviously too much in either way is not desireable

It's got nothing to do with type, really. It is a secualr quality... awareness, being with it. "getting it", perhaps. It manifests itself differently through different ego blocks, but the essential quality is there in every quadra.

I love the shallow version of ESFjs. They're so fun, they don't care about all the shit that life might throw at you, they just keep going on enjoying life. And they're able to achieve a lot of things, too, just by doing them, without stressing perfectionism. I really think that you would benefit a lot from them, UDP, instead of making your life heavier and heavier.

I love the shallow version of ESFjs. They're so fun, they don't care about all the shit that life might throw at you, they just keep going on enjoying life. And they're able to achieve a lot of things, too, just by doing them, without stressing perfectionism.

So true. All these people who are hung up on ESEs being slutty, ditzy, dependant, etc are plain dumb. ESEs come in more shapes, sizes, and flavors than any other type, IMO, especially the males. For example, I know three very stereotypical ESE men (socialites, popular, somewhat efeminite, dress well, concerned with social expectations, hedonists, etc), but my sister's husband is a WHOLE different story (crunchy/hippy type, artist, composer, musician, VERY interested in all sorts of philosophical, political, and cultural movements). Fe is probably the most diverse function in terms of how many "flavors" (as I like to call them) the dominants come in.

But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...