(I wont argue that Sony bought all there games at the end of this gen).

Cart racer did you say? What like Viva Pinata Party Animals I say.

So ratchet and clank and sly cooper is now a shooter? So is little big planet? And the kart racer? Oh I get PASBR is an fps because it has a character from killzone! Smh, i don't blame you, You don't own the console, so I doubt you'll know what games Sony has released so there's no need in making a list (pretty sure someone else will do it for me)

Wtf are you talking about? Sony bought all there games at the end of this gen? What (Kevin hart voice)

So ratchet and clank and sly cooper is now a shooter? So is little big planet? And the kart racer? Oh I get PASBR is an fps because it has a character from killzone! Smh, i don't blame you, You don't own the console, so I doubt you'll know what games Sony has released so there's no need in making a list (pretty sure someone else will do it for me)

Wtf are you talking about? Sony bought all there games at the end of this gen? What (Kevin hart voice)

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I wasn't saying they were all shooters.
I was just saying that both did their equal amounts of different generes.

And for the record, I'm pretty sure I could name all the Sony First party titles. Probably by release too.

I don't run around making blanket statement about this console has more variety in games than that without backing my $#@! up.

MS exclusive lists was very heavy at the start of the gen, and trialed off.
Sony's was the reverse.

Sonys was the reverse? Seriously?

No point in arguing with you or doing it in this thread, the mods will clean it up (when they wake up lol)

Anyways, any exclusive is welcomed regardless of the genre, I'm pretty sure MS needs it more than Sony....it'll probably find it's way to a Sony console, they always do. All this bickering is pointless

NOt sure if you are serious, ask anyone how many Sony exclusives there was prior to 2009 compared to 360's.

No point in arguing with you or doing it in this thread, the mods will clean it up (when they wake up lol)

Anyways, any exclusive is welcomed regardless of the genre, I'm pretty sure MS needs it more than Sony....it'll probably find it's way to a Sony console, they always do. All this bickering is pointless

And for the record, I'm pretty sure I could name all the Sony First party titles. Probably by release too.

I don't run around making blanket statement about this console has more variety in games than that without backing my $#@! up.

MS exclusive lists was very heavy at the start of the gen, and trialed off.
Sony's was the reverse.

At the start MS wanted to go a different direction and be more open but when those didn't sell well(such a shame Lost Odyssey could have been MS own FF but it didn't sell well) they turned the Xbox into an FPS action machine then released kinectic and we are where we are today. Face it Xbox tried to do different at the start, mainly to try to get the Japan crowd with the Jrpg they have, but the Xbox owners spoke with their wallet and the games didn't sell. Xbox is just not know for variety and so far for new one they sticking to the formula. Sure COD is a third party but they have the deal with MS making it more appealing to buy for the Xbox and putting the COD synonimus with the xbox brand. This new game sounds great but the fact is it is an FPS.

Now as far as your variety goes I will make a thread because I do not want to derail this one further. I am willing to bet I have played more Xbox exclusives, not counting indie devs, then you have this gen.

The next Xbox is shaping up to be an FPS pump out the sequel machine. Not liking this at all.

It'll likely just be passing the torch from how things was handled with the 360. FPS having a stronger focus over other genres outside of gears;fable;forza.

The things that worry me is how MS views sales and success. If titles don't move 4-5+million then they take a back seat. I don't like that at all. It's as if those companies are $#@!ing up the budgets. With this new i.p, it's going to have to sell a ton because EA will want it competing with cod(there was info about this somewhere. I'll look in a sec) and that's what's crazy about it becoming an exclusive imo. MP only is going to be a big test as in what console gamers want.

Hmmm, I'm often reminded why I spend most my time at PSU in my merc section these days, cause even at the $#@!ing ass end of a generation, with new tech and games coming, people still need to try and defend their console maker of choice's tech/games etc, and it's not even discussed accurately, and these pathtic sorry ass list wars are tailored to make your own points. It's sad, get the $#@! over it and stop being so embarrassing. Move on from that $#@!, if I can do it, anyone can. SMFH.

The things that worry me is how MS views sales and success. If titles don't move 4-5+million then they take a back seat.

MS care about sales is not worry me that much , but I really didn't get costumers who care about sales and bring sale numbers all the time... I , personally don't give a damn how much Uncharted sold, if a game sold enough to make a sequel this is enough for me. For example; Square Enix didn't reach the expectations about Tomb Raider, this only worries me, rest is bull**** to me...

It amazes me, I have no idea where exactly it comes form, but perhaps someone from the otherside of the fence can explain to me how the Xbox brand is seen as the FPS console.

Before getting hugely derailed, I was trying to make the point that this game (if it is indeed exclusive) would make a grand total of:

2 exclusive FPS on the Xbox brand.

2 franchises. Thats it.

So, given every other dam FPS game must be available on the competing console, why is the Xbox tarnished "FPS" syndrome, when in fact we all know the other side of the coin has more FPS franchises and released more FPS titles this generation (I believe the count is someone where in the vicinity of 6 vs a 4).

COD you will all point to, here is the thing, that's released on both platforms. Exclusive (timed at that) content came around well after the console had achieved domination in that arena. You need to dig a little bit deeper to find you resentment of the success of FPS's on Microsoft console.

So MS want to have another FPS console exclusive that isnt Halo.

Given what advantages they had last gen in the FPS (mulitplayer) arena will be in all likely hood wiped out by the PS4 features that the PS3 did not have at launch (and still now in some cases), then it makes smart business practice to at least bolster you exclusive FPS list beyond 1 franchise.

I think 360 gets lumped as the FPS console because most gamers play CoD on it and unless I'm mistaken, most 3rd party FPS games sold better on 360. Also because Gears and Halo comprise 50% of MS's content output for the last few years, it polarises things a bit.

Sony also has 2 shooting IPs, Resistance and Killzone, and if those were a staple/yearly part of a reduced IP offering then maybe 360 wouldn't wear the "FPS console" label alone. However, because they are nestled in among RPGs, hack-n-slash, platformers, racers, action/adventure etc the spotlight isn't so focused on them.

I also think it's because of the controller, which many multi-platform gamers agree is the better controller for FPS games.

So yeah, shooter comprising 50% of MS's exclusive output, better online environment for multi player, a FPS friendlier controller, better selling 3rd party FPS games and CoD exclusivity are probably the reasons 360 has the bro-shooter stigma on it.

This is the key reason.
Now you consider the advantages MS had this gen (even if some of it was rectified later), thing slike cross game invites, cross game chats, a standard headset, all killed the PS3 in the online arena, where COD thrives.

Now, given most of this has been rectified now, and all of it will be rectified with the PS4. Doesn't that level the playing field next generation online arena?

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