Yep most of them actually gain weight during Ramadan because they can eat from dusk till dawn. They stuff their faces all night long. They also gorge on special Ramadan sweets.

Then they act lethargic during the day because they're "fasting" but really it's because they stayed up all night binge eating and now they're about to burst from overeating and they can't drink enough water to quench the thirst they have from all the date syrup they consumed.

Don't dwell on the over-the-top delivery. The ideas being expressed here have an underlying truth that the current mainstream leftist ideology wants to hide at all costs.

This would've been a civil discussion had leftists like those on gaf not demonized every opposing viewpoint, and gotten people fired, harassed them (actual harassment, not what you idiots call "harassment" i.e. disagreement), and encouraged the ruination of their lives. Now those ideas are coming out, but the respect is lost, and so the wording is harsh.

By the way, not everyone here is the same. I generally don't use the word nigger. I can't think of anyone who hates gay people per se, but there is in fact a gay agenda and I'm sick and tired of a tiny group of people with a sexual disorder (you call this "hatred" but actual data says otherwise, consensus be damned - it's at least debatable) co-opting every single thing and is inserted into children's programming at every chance in order to normalize it. It's not normal, and should not be engineered into the mainstream. The fact that it needs to be engineered into society should be proof enough that it's not supposed to be mainstream.

Answer me this - where are all the gay people requesting wedding cakes from Muslim bakeries? Where are all the gay people forcing Imams in Mosques to marry them?

People here are against all forms of social engineering. Nobody should operate directly on "society" in general like it's some kind of project. It's not "hatred" to be against this.

re: Charlie Murphy

It sucks that he died. The mockery is generally aimed at GAF, because you guys are ridiculous. You guys use every single tragedy to signal how virtuous you are e.g. "omg literally shaking right now, I was just in the same hemisphere as him." I used to criticize these posts about celebrity deaths, but then the people here pointed out that it's actually a GAF thing that's being criticized and I started to notice it.

Additional things you probably call "hatred:"

• Forced "diversity" isn't diversity. Real diversity is the existence countries. Parts of Paris are now indistinguishable from Algeria or Iraq. Your ideology has destroyed diversity and the beauty of this planet.

I'm a minority by the way. And I respect the western country that took my family in as actual refugees (going through the proper channels). I would never want to change these countries. It's my damn duty to assimilate and not seek to bring my wartorn country to them.

• There is no wage gap. Educated people should know this. It's macro-economics 101. If women did the same work for lower pay, companies would only hire women.

• Feminism claims to be good for men and women. Except it isn't, it's a female supremacy movement. Proof: where are the chants for more women in garbage disposal? I thought 50-50 gender distribution was the goal (stupid as it is, at least it would be consistent).

• "We wuz kangz" is hilarious. I know you know it but are too cucked to admit it because you're afraid of being "racist." You have no idea what true racism is. You live vicariously through the minorities that want nothing better than to take what you have. You think you're virtuous, but you're absolutely being used by the minorities you think you're protecting.

• NeoGAF has literal cucks. It's not some "alt right terminology." You people literally encourage this. It's part of the leftist platform.

• I don't want people to cut their penises off. That's not "hate." It's genuine concern. At the same time, it's disgust at the outcome.

• Equality of outcome is a ridiculous goal to have. Equal opportunity is all you are owed. The concept of paying reparations to black people is hilarious.

Virtue Challenge: If you want to see real "hatred," I challenge you to post any of the following arguments on gaf:

• We need more women in garbage disposal, because it's 95% men. (But you probably only want women in software engineering, because that's what megacorps who want to reduce wages by flooding the labor market have told you to want.)

• We need to make workplace mortality equal. It's ~97% men. We need some kind of affirmative action to improve representation in workplace mortality.

• Black people should demand reparations from Muslims, whose slave trade affected 100 million blacks, 80 million of which died in transit. They used to brutally castrate them, with like a 30% survival rate.

• A thread that appreciates the culture(s) that ended slavery, whoever they may be. I'll let you do your own research and figure out who it was.

• An honest thread with the intention of helping people not chop their dicks off and mutilate their bodies: try and make sense of trans suicide rates and see how long you last.

You won't get many chances so if you're going to do something, it had better be the best you've got.

Some ideas:

Don't debate whether he is mentally ill. That's invariably a losing battle. These people are completely self-absorbed and incapable of conceding anything. They are completely taken and enthralled by the mysticism of gender theory. It's like an earworm; it is fully imprinted at this point. The idea of it being mental illness has been destroyed to the point that the people having these thoughts are not even allowed to seek treatment; even trying to develop a treatment is illegal now.

Consider playing the "it goes without saying" card about him being mentally ill as your starting point. Make it clear that his being mentally ill is a fact upon which you base everything that you're saying. It's a core assumption, not a negotiable part of the debate and not in question.

Hammer on his insecurities. Tell him you thought he was better than to believe in bullshit like gender theory, or to follow trends. If he denies it, say: "it's clear like you don't even realize you're doing it." Use an "appeal to shame" i.e. shake your head, say "dude... ugh, forget it;" this is obnoxious but it works well on leftists, because they are obnoxious.

Many of these people think recreating their identity will allow them to have a fresh start. Call him out on this: "what did you do that's so bad that you need to start over as a new persona?" Many of these people are riddled with guilt and their so-called "transition" lets them kill off the persona that they feel carries insurmountable guilt. Hammer on this point and you may be surprised at what you find out. This may be an avenue for further discussion. It is no coincidence that so many vocal leftists turn out to be sex offenders. It is no coincidence that Bruce Jenner killed someone before pretending to be a woman. If you can confirm that it's driven by guilt, let him know that redemption is hard but possible, while escaping is comparatively shameful.

If guilt isn't the problem, then it's insecurity over being a failure. Pretending to be a different person lets them kill off the failure "cleanly" (or so they think) and also serve as an excuse as to why they suck, e.g. "I always knew I was different but couldn't quite figure it out... This must be the answer!" Make it apparent how stupid his reasoning is. Everyone feels "different" because everyone is different; ask if he really believes that he is so unique for such a cliche, cringey thought; roll your eyes at this in that obnoxious way that leftists take to heart. Use the word cringey to describe his reasoning. Posit that maybe he sucks and it's not because he has supposedly always been woman; insecure people are often receptive to negative points about their character (because they hate themselves), which can give you a good opening.

It is no coincidence that they call it "deadnaming" if you use their real name. They really want to kill off their own character and start as a new one. You need to find out why they want to kill that person off so badly, why the sound of their own name has come to alienate them so much.

Limit how hard you strike because guilty or crazy people seeking an escape are prone to suicide, and you don't want that outcome, nor do you deserve the guilt. Know the limit of what is achievable and pick your battles carefully.

I don’t like giving up on people without trying

Good, we need more people like you.

edit: Another idea: describe to him in gory detail how the operation works. These people are convinced it's some magical, clean process. It's not. It's gory. Make him understand what it consists of and how disgustingly gory that is.

Yes, and that's why all manufacturing is done in China now, and corporations in the west are happy paying slave wages. Next up: reducing those pesky skilled labor wages. Hey I know, let's turn absolutely everyone into software engineers. Flooding the market with Indians didn't damage it enough, let's push companies to hire women and start training children early and flood the labor market in order to devalue engineering skills.

The next iPhone will not only be made with slave manufacturing, but also slave engineering if Apple and these other megacorps have their way, though it'll still cost consumers 600$.

When you say "Chinese stuff would be more expensive" - that's oversimplifying things. There would be competition and companies wouldn't go out of business trying to keep up with China's slave wages.

Do you see why this is all suspicious? Because if the people pushing global warming were actually afraid of humanity dying out, then why shift all manufacturing to China. It makes no sense - unless survival wasn't actually the concern.