AFTER CRIMEA: Top Intelligence Analysts Forecast The 5 Things That Putin Might Do Nexthttp://www.businessinsider.com/wikistrat-the-next-russian-military-invasion-2014-3/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Tue, 26 Sep 2017 16:27:07 -0400Michael B Kelleyhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/533bee746da811776efa19b3Dennis954Wed, 02 Apr 2014 07:03:16 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/533bee746da811776efa19b3
Scenario 6
Putin sits back and let's the IMF impose its crippling austerity measures on the Ukrainian people,. Most of the $27 billion in bailout money goes to Russian oil and gas companies. The "savings" from the austerity measures (50% cut in pensions, 70% cut in government salaries! and doubling of energy prices by 2016) go to pay interest to western bankers. As the Ukrainian people feel the pain of austerity, they will revolt again and run back to Russia. Putin wins without firing a shot.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532ec31a69bedd38276eba93Bill MarquisSun, 23 Mar 2014 07:18:50 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532ec31a69bedd38276eba93
"invasion" pah! idiots. 93% of crimeans voted to align with crimea. eastern "ukraine" (east of the dnieper), should separate from the nazis in west "ukraine" and go their own way.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532e32af6bb3f7416f3ee01bwilliam.duane.54Sat, 22 Mar 2014 21:02:39 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532e32af6bb3f7416f3ee01b
Vladimir Zhirinovsky's book " Final Thrust South"
"Latvia will be part of Russia. There will be a small Lithuanian state inside Russia. If some- one wants to live as a little assembly of Ukrainians then there can be a little Ukrainian repub- lic for them (p. 126)."
No need to speculate... You just have to connect the dots. This has been planned since 1994.. You'd have to read Vladimir Zhirinovsky's book " Final Thrust South" ... Then get the real news: I'd post the links but they'll delete the message so Google: " Vladimir Zhirinovsky crimea" Yes he's there.
PirateShip .comhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/532e2e27ecad0462073ee018schm0eSat, 22 Mar 2014 20:43:19 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532e2e27ecad0462073ee018
#6. Start Marginalizing Jews.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532e033aecad04ce7b3ee015timothy coutoSat, 22 Mar 2014 17:40:10 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532e033aecad04ce7b3ee015
would one of the five things include taking commrade obama back to the russian motherland...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532df8f86bb3f7753e3ee015peteybeeSat, 22 Mar 2014 16:56:24 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532df8f86bb3f7753e3ee015
These are all things the US would do if it were in Russia's position. That is not the same as what Russia would do.
Things to look for:
Russia China relationship continues.
Russia tries to woo India into relationship, India skillfully plays both sides.
Russia attempts to make relationship with middle east and central Asian countries, but is successfully sabotaged by US/NATO.
US intervenes to bring pro-NATO government elsewhere in the region and Russia responds again in a relatively mild way but the world blows it out of proportion and almost goes to War.
The continued advances in Solar and Shale gas revolution comes to China/EU, altering balance of power, disempowering ALL the big powers except China, rescuing the Eurozone and Japan -- by reducing need for dollar-denominated trade. This encourages craziness by Saudi Arabia, Russia, and the US.
Eurozone splits, Russia gains influence in some of the expelled parts.
Russia attempts to upstage the US for propaganda purposes by brokering a peace deal between North Korea and South Korea, but is successfully prevented from doing this by the US.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532df2d96da811950766ef45Dave in Sacramento, CaliforniaSat, 22 Mar 2014 16:30:17 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532df2d96da811950766ef45
Wow, Mary Jean! Such a long list of perpetrators who caused this "Ukraine mess" (The US State Dept., a lone U.S. Senator (McCaine), the EU, IMF, etc.)
Don't you think that perhaps Vladimir Putin and the Russians in Ukraine might have contributed to the mess??
Please take your time in thinking about it, and then try to compose a cogent, logical answer. I'll be standing by, awaiting your reply.....Davehttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/532deda2eab8ea876d3ee023Dave in Sacramento, CaliforniaSat, 22 Mar 2014 16:08:02 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532deda2eab8ea876d3ee023
He's already doing business with China and neighboring countries. Russian business with the U.S. doesn't go beyond the NHL robbing them of their best hockey players and NASA buying a ride on a Soyuz rocket now and thenhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/532dec76eab8eaa3703ee018Dave in Sacramento, CaliforniaSat, 22 Mar 2014 16:03:02 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532dec76eab8eaa3703ee018
I love how you libs always throw that curious "neocon" term around. Over 10 years and you guys seem to obsessed with it. Just say "Jew" and be done with it. You know that's what you want to say.
Also, let's be clear on one thing. Nobody wants to impose sanctions on Putin or the Russians, ESPECIALLY the liberal left. The way they see it, why alienate yet another future creditor nation? After all we aren't going to be able to keep Obama-care or Social Security, let alone a functioning military unless we can continue to spend in the red! You liberals are the ones who have put us here. Agree with it or not, all the spending on Iraq and Afghanistan is minuscule compared to the President Choomster has done since 2009.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532dd7de6bb3f7ac473ee015spktruthSat, 22 Mar 2014 14:35:10 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532dd7de6bb3f7ac473ee015
Right wing speculation is going to lead us right into WW3. Russia DID NOT INVADE Crimea. That lie must stop. If you don't no the difference between a country permitted to have self determination and voting for their choice, as opposed to a country sending in jet fighters, bombers, navy, air force, and tanks...your a fool. Putin is being propagandize by corporate media just like the US and the EU did to Saddam, Kadafy, Iran, Syria, Egypt, Afganistan, Iraq, Vietname...your being LIED to right in your face, and too stupid too see it. This is a war about OIL, and about NATO in Russias face...the US would never permit Russia to have bases in Mexico or Canada...why cant you uninformed morons considering that?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532db56c6da8118c7366ef51tcSat, 22 Mar 2014 12:08:12 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532db56c6da8118c7366ef51
just be sure to sign the START treaty and surrender all of your weapons so Putin will have an E-Z go of it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532d9f1969bedda114f48aabObama_Is_A_QueerSat, 22 Mar 2014 10:32:57 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532d9f1969bedda114f48aab
The facts are obvious as is the overall scenario. Putin has Obama on his knees, and Obama likes that.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532d538f6bb3f7f56c3ee01aMike SheehanSat, 22 Mar 2014 05:10:39 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532d538f6bb3f7f56c3ee01a
They may well be correct in their forecasts concerning Russian interference, but would these chrystal ball gazers care to forecast the next five areas of US interference in the geopolitical scenario, just for clarity of course.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532d27fb6da8118974f33dabMax HoganSat, 22 Mar 2014 02:04:43 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532d27fb6da8118974f33dab
Drill, baby drill. Frack, baby frack. Pass the Keystone Pipeline. Ship the LNG to Europe! Ship Keystone oil to Europe! Piss on Puttin!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532d26e269beddc655f33da4Max HoganSat, 22 Mar 2014 02:00:02 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532d26e269beddc655f33da4
Drill, baby drill. Frack, baby frack. Pass the Keystone Pipeline. Ship the LNG to Europe! Ship Keystone oil to Europe! Piss on Puttin!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532d26906bb3f7cf4ef33daaBenedict HarrisSat, 22 Mar 2014 01:58:40 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532d26906bb3f7cf4ef33daa
this article is so full of shit
Putin's next move will not be on this list, and it won't be an invasion. How stupid is this article..
He will simply do business with China like never before, creating a new commodity backed alliance and marginalizing the US Dollar. A new gas deal is about to happen with China.
Goodbye US Dollarhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/532d17a269bedd3706f33daaLondon OSat, 22 Mar 2014 00:54:58 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532d17a269bedd3706f33daa
Scenarios 2 and 4 are quite probable. But 3 and 5 would require certain changes to the political climate, which right now don't look like they will happen (of course, the situation could be different in a year or so). I see Sit. 1 as plausible, but Russia does not have superiority in the cyberwar, so they are less likely to attempt such a campaign.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532d09f76bb3f7e56df33dabReggie RomeroFri, 21 Mar 2014 23:56:39 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532d09f76bb3f7e56df33dab
And Putin is going to continue to rub it in Obo's face. I think the beginning of the end was when Obo whispered to Medvedev: "tell Vladimir that when I get re-elected, I will be able to do more to help him"....LOL What a fool!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532d07c669beddcd5ff33da4Reggie RomeroFri, 21 Mar 2014 23:47:18 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532d07c669beddcd5ff33da4
Did Putin catch on and thwart the genius' great strategy? McCain and Obo together make a great Foreign Affairs team...LOLOLOLOLOL!!!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532d07126bb3f77f66f33da8Reggie RomeroFri, 21 Mar 2014 23:44:18 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532d07126bb3f77f66f33da8
OMG! Have you copywrited "BHOmo" ? I believe you're correct about the hand job. You have to excuse Obo (BHOmo) for his amazing naivete regarding international affairs and the players. Hey, he's from Chicago, these dummies from Russia, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Poland, Venezuela, and, especially, the Ukraine, can't hold a candle to his immense intellect. Or was it a BJ?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532cfbe369beddd826f33da8Rootin4PutinFri, 21 Mar 2014 22:56:35 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532cfbe369beddd826f33da8
BHOmo must have been referring to a hand job. That's how he keeps his cabinet (Rahm Emmanuel, Reggie Love, Hillary Clinton) happy.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532cfb4aecad040762f33dacRootin4PutinFri, 21 Mar 2014 22:54:02 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532cfb4aecad040762f33dac
And what's wrong with any of the 5 scenarios. Had Bathhouse Barry Hussein possessed man jewels this would not be headlines. So may the best man win!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532cf4e9eab8ea103ef33db4Reggie RomeroFri, 21 Mar 2014 22:26:49 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532cf4e9eab8ea103ef33db4
And Putin is going to continue to rub it in Obo's face. I think the beginning of the end was when Obo whispered to Medvedev: "tell Vladimir that when I get re-elected, I will be able to do more to help him"....LOL What a fool!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532cf18969bedd7477f33db0Hawkeye71Fri, 21 Mar 2014 22:12:25 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532cf18969bedd7477f33db0
Why not? Who's going to stop him? We have the weakest president in our history and our military has been gutted.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532ceeb4ecad04b834f33da6PaulBFri, 21 Mar 2014 22:00:20 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532ceeb4ecad04b834f33da6
Idiot.......http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532ce3c6eab8ea2c17f33da4jacksontFri, 21 Mar 2014 21:13:42 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532ce3c6eab8ea2c17f33da4
read Ezekiel 38 and 39 then you'll know for sure what they are going to do - hello anyone home?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532cdfb46da811483df33da7TonyGFri, 21 Mar 2014 20:56:20 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532cdfb46da811483df33da7
The Russians are on the move . . . . the next cold war is upon us . . . thanks to Obama's ineptness . . . . the man with the empty suit is empty as we see day in and day out . . . .http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532cdd9c6bb3f72b5bf33db4Jungle JimFri, 21 Mar 2014 20:47:24 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532cdd9c6bb3f72b5bf33db4
Sorry it took so long to get back to you, I lost the thread. I certainly hope that you are correct. As they say, the first casualty in wartime is truth.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532ccc17ecad046649f33da6Brian RoastbeefFri, 21 Mar 2014 19:32:39 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532ccc17ecad046649f33da6
The problem with looking this far forward in regard to Russia, is that the Kremlin itself never applies any long-term thought behind their decisions. They are reactive, short-sighted, and as such erratic. Whether they move further into Ukraine, or toward, Estonia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan next relies entirely on international reaction and where they see the softest target. All that is sure is that Putin will keep pushing until stopped, and the stakes will only go up with time.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532ccaa4ecad048c43f33da4Dickn52Fri, 21 Mar 2014 19:26:28 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532ccaa4ecad048c43f33da4
"Hey Vlad...you just won the Crimea...What are going to do now?" "Heck guys, I'm going to Disney World!"http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532cbec86bb3f71971f33da6PacRim JimFri, 21 Mar 2014 18:35:52 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532cbec86bb3f71971f33da6
Putin's pugnacious behavior was predictable.
So why did the so-called intelligence agencies have no prepared response for just such an eventuality?
Something is terribly amiss in D.C.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532cbb58eab8ead176f33da8HoyeruFri, 21 Mar 2014 18:21:12 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532cbb58eab8ead176f33da8
Wow, it's rare that I have read some much #^$%@^& on one single web site. If you really do consult governments, no wonder China and Russia are beating you and China is already number 1 trader in the world according to WTO. Incredible FUD. US unable to respond? USA sent hundreds of thousands of solders around the world to Iraq and Iran and Afghanistan and they wont be able to respond? You are truly unbelievable.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c9b876bb3f71c035b5574ImJustAGuyFri, 21 Mar 2014 16:05:27 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c9b876bb3f71c035b5574
You dare criticize Barack Obama? You're obviously a racist!
Barack Obama is the greatest leader the world has ever known!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c95b9ecad04357d5b557eferretFri, 21 Mar 2014 15:40:41 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c95b9ecad04357d5b557e
Amen to that.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c95b46bb3f7306d5b557bAriusFri, 21 Mar 2014 15:40:36 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c95b46bb3f7306d5b557b
Correct, but it tells us the next neocon targets.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c95526bb3f72f6d5b5575Pedro MartinezFri, 21 Mar 2014 15:38:58 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c95526bb3f72f6d5b5575
Where do you live?
In Houston, TX our suburban sprawl continues, we are building more and more office buildings and commercial sites, master planned communities with practically all detached housing continues to race and we buy more and more cars. Of course, we're doing better than most of the country.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c937c6da811177a5b5576ImJustAGuyFri, 21 Mar 2014 15:31:08 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c937c6da811177a5b5576
That rant is not steeped in reality. Europe needs Russian natural gas and oil. Right now, Putin pretty much can write his ticket, hence this article. NATO is not equipped to handle this, and the US is unwilling and unable to handle this.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c92deecad04047a5b5579AriusFri, 21 Mar 2014 15:28:30 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c92deecad04047a5b5579
Reading into the article it is telling us the next targets for the continuing Western assault on Russia. The West needs to demonize Russia to keep its serfs distracted from the mounting problems of a debt regime that is nearing collapse.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c8f7369bedd87145b5575VivaPutinDeathToObamaFri, 21 Mar 2014 15:13:55 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c8f7369bedd87145b5575
"5 Things That Putin Might Do Next"
Gee, I hope that he,
1) BOMBS the USSA!
2) BOMBS the USSA!
3) BOMBS the USSA!
4) BOMBS the USSA!
5) (you guessed it) BOMBS the USSA!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c88de6bb3f75b445b5573WPFri, 21 Mar 2014 14:45:50 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c88de6bb3f75b445b5573
No the Senkaku controversy does not go back 100 years. True, Japan legally annexed the Senkaku over 100 years ago -- back in 1895. But China did not claim the Senkaku Islands until 1971, and only after oil was discovered by a UN geological survey. Initially only a couple of Taiwan oil firms and a handful of student activists began claiming the Senkakus were Chinese. In 1971 he majority of Chinese either assumed they belonged to Japan or never heard of them! After all, ca. 1971, maps of Taiwan and PRC indicated the Senkaku as part of Japan! Initially even Chiang-kai Chek and Chou En Lai were unenthusiastic about taking up this new claim. But the prospect of owning oil reserves, and the growing pressure by vocal activists can be very persuasive to politicians. Plus, who knows, a territorial dispute might come in handy one of these days -- put in on the back burner when you don't need it or don't have enough mass support, bring it out when it's strategically to your advantage. This is exactly what the PRC has done. First it launched an education-campaign to indoctrinate all its citizens that the Senkaku belonged to China since "ancient time," then when China became economically and militarily stronger it started engaging in provocative actions like sending fishing boats and other vessels to sail in Senkaku waters. And in 2010 when a Chinese vessel rammed a Japanese coast guard boat, instead of apologizing, China claimed the boat had a right to be in those waters because the Senkaku belonged to China! And recently China has included airspace above the Senkaku in its ADIZ. It may seem like childish arguing over uninhabited islands, but this is really a matter of China doing a land grab using every trick in the book: manipulation of history to military maneuvers.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c876869beddca6a5b557bKarl MarxFri, 21 Mar 2014 14:39:36 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c876869beddca6a5b557b
I'm sorry but this article is complete and utter bullshit.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c83aa6bb3f7ba325b5573FoolFri, 21 Mar 2014 14:23:38 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c83aa6bb3f7ba325b5573
It seems like Putin is the analog to the American died-in-the-wool cold warrior as far as their opinions of their adversary is concerned. Positive relations are impossible with a dictator who entrenched himself in power for decades to come and who's power depends on corruption and flaming nationalism. How terrible that American foreign policy should try to rid former client states with soviets imposed upon them through murder, genocide, and relocation in Eastern Europe.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c7f25eab8ead41b5b5573mikej77Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:04:21 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c7f25eab8ead41b5b5573
The Russian Government was an ally up to 1917 when insane dictatorship was set up in 1917-18 and Lenin contracted a separate peace with Germany breaking commitments to keep fighting as the SRs, Mensheviks, and Kerensky Government agreed was a requirement. With Germany defeated Lenin reneged on Brest-Litovsk Treaty so Bolshevik Government was excluded and isolated. Then there was the foreign interventions and Civil War to overthrow the illegal Bolshevik coup though this was judged to be not worth the cost and effort because such a economic ideology could only lead to collapse . (see 1989)
Death will overthrow Lukashenko if he lives to die of natural causes. It amazes us over here that you are SO WILLING to worship politicians over there- it is very primitive. NEVER worship another human if you would be human yourself. This is strictly a Muzhik view, circa Dark Ages. Worship Pharoah or the Pope or Kirill but not KGB dictator- too much like Little Brother, 1984.
There are no Conservatives in US politics in positions of power. There are only Right and Left Wing liberals though you can argue that Putin is a true Conservative in terms of Central Euro Prussia/ Russia politic. I do not support that argument though you can make it. Putin is a fascist most similar to Hitler, Mussolini, and the minor fascist leaders of E. Europe in the 1920s and forward as the nobility became discredited.
WW2 started with Germany and Russia as allies seizing other people's countries and with the German war machine supplied by Bolshevik Oil and Resources until June 1941.
Then we both fought Germany to early 1945 when Russia became Enemy Dictatorship again and ever since. There was some point 1989 to Putin (1999) when Russia may or may not have been an Enemy State but under Putin you are ENEMY #1 again.
Back to breadlines and communal apartments for all slow learning Comrades. Seriously though, did your education at International Information Services not include this?
No real Conservatives like Putin in the USA since the end of slavery in 1865. You are about 150 years behind the curve with old Vladimir Beria.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c7d7869beddfb4e5b5573larisimoFri, 21 Mar 2014 13:57:12 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c7d7869beddfb4e5b5573
maybe one of your less than qualified video people can make a 2 minute hip video of this too? pouring glasses of water over sand washing over maps of the world or maybe coffee percolating in a volcano or maybe still shots of various ethnic groups pointing towards a bearhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c7c9769beddbe4b5b5573larisimoFri, 21 Mar 2014 13:53:27 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c7c9769beddbe4b5b5573
what a lame article. just replace Russia with USA and change the future dates to past dates and it's like reading a history bookhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c7b2eecad04fa2f5b5573Points to ConsiderFri, 21 Mar 2014 13:47:26 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c7b2eecad04fa2f5b5573
By writing "Russia will slowly take back" I don't mean militarily. I mean politically, maybe via oligarchs who are secretly friendly with the Kremlin. You can be sure the Kremlin is quietly buying off the high level Nazis in Kiev now, which is a good thing. You don't want them being loose cannons on the world scene.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c7aa6ecad04db285b5574mendigagaFri, 21 Mar 2014 13:45:10 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c7aa6ecad04db285b5574
Leme guess... 2022, after bombing half civilians in those countries, America jewish lobbyist contractors rebuild all gas and oil facilities in those countries??http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c7a44ecad0466225b5574mikej77Fri, 21 Mar 2014 13:43:32 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c7a44ecad0466225b5574
Here is the scenario.
Belarus borders EU countries. Belarus living standards stagnate and fall while Free World economies gradually improve living standards. Belorussians eventually get tired of endless differentials and just walk away from sinking Russian economy.
Since 1917 which way have the populations been moving? Into USSR or Out of USSR?
Anyone living in Belarus who is a member of the 21st Century and not the 17th packs bags and works outside Russia. Belarus becomes wasteland inhabited by the intoxicated unemployable.
In any case primitive savagery is gradually rolled up all around the borders of USSR-2. Eventually ordinary Russians finally awaken to 100 years of stagnation and knock down Kremlin with hammers like Berlin Wall.
Actually I like talking to transplanted Russians, many are good, educated and talented people but evil monsters like Putin, Brezhnev, Khrushchev, Stalin have provided them with nothing but interrogations, labor camps, and executions. USSR ruined the 20th Century and we will not have the USSR ruin the 21st Century as well. Move or get ready for bankruptcy, civil war and mass executions over there.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c79f269bedd45355b5576Points to ConsiderFri, 21 Mar 2014 13:42:10 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c79f269bedd45355b5576
No, Jim, that 35 million number is neocon propaganda. In reality, the Russian speaking Ukrainians outnumber the Ukrainian Ukrainians and the east and south, who are being ignored when Obama and Neocon Senators talk about 'defending Ukraine', are more numerous, richer and more or less pro-Putin while not wanting or expecting to become part of Russia proper.
The scenario you envision is not going to happen. Russia will slowly take back all of the Ukraine or he will do it by letting Porashenko win the presidency and then pay him off to side more with Russia against the west. The west of Ukraine and the Russians have more in common with each other than either has with the west. They're slavs for one.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c7883ecad047e245b5574Points to ConsiderFri, 21 Mar 2014 13:36:03 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c7883ecad047e245b5574
But what makes them an enemy government? If the Neocons hadn't sprung their coup, one that can be reversed in 2 months, there wouldn't have been a reason for Putin to take the Crimea.
QED they are only our "enemy" because the neocons decided to make them one, by messing around looking to establish coups among the former Soviet states. The above article assumes the readers have melting neocon brains. Like what normal person outside of White Russia spends more than 2 seconds of their life dreaming about whether Lukashenko will ever be overthrown.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c774a6bb3f70a025b5575NJ SeedasFri, 21 Mar 2014 13:30:50 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c774a6bb3f70a025b5575
Belarus is a member of CSTO with Russia, has very close ties with Russia and probably would not meet requirements to join EU. Scenario #2's uprising would be very unlikely in that any "uprising" would be totally financed by western forces and have very little internal support from Belarus.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c74a0ecad0424165b557bNJ SeedasFri, 21 Mar 2014 13:19:28 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c74a0ecad0424165b557b
The Senkaku islands have been disputed for well over a century. Other than fishing rights, it is really a childish argument over mostly useless land. Wars have started over similar insignificant issues, so it is possible this issue needlessly escalates. The real issue is that while many Americans inclusively refer to the region as southeast asia, it is populated with nationalistic and ethnic groups which genuinely dislike, mistrust, and to an extent hate each other.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c710069bedda9175b557cMary JeanFri, 21 Mar 2014 13:04:00 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c710069bedda9175b557c
You fail to mention this whole Ukraine mess was started by The US State Dept., McCain, the EU and IMF. You fail to mention it was an illegal coup and another NWO/NeoCon takeouve like Libya down with paramilitary contractors. You failed to mention the new govt is unelected and is billionaire criminal oligarchs and (literally) nazis from Western Ukraine. Keep up the good work (sic). The USA wanted to create a phony coup to add a NATO base and make the Ukrainians IMF debt serfs. Keep up the good work of disinformation.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c6f46eab8eaaa5d5b5573vmikidFri, 21 Mar 2014 12:56:38 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c6f46eab8eaaa5d5b5573
My take: 1. An agreement with Iran for Russian Navy Port in either the Gulf of Oman or the Persian Gulf. coupled with a NATO like agreement between Iran and Russia.
2. Form an OPEC type organization (Russia, Iran, Iraq, Stans, Serbia,) that would control 80% of the gas reserves. 3. Joint agreement with China to control prices on rare earth, heavy, and light metals. 4. Shore up flanks (Southern Ukraine, TransCarpathia , Eastern Ukraine) 5. Supply Turkish Kurds with weapons and special forces.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c6e3e69bedd7f125b5573WeeelFri, 21 Mar 2014 12:52:14 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c6e3e69bedd7f125b5573
Scenario 6... they resume business as usual. Why is there always so many assumptions once one thing happens.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c6b166bb3f708515b5579beaujesteFri, 21 Mar 2014 12:38:46 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c6b166bb3f708515b5579
Your editorial (propagandist) position in posing Putin as the aggressor is failing so badly.
The one thing that Putin can be assured of, is not what any US strategist can think or elucidate on.
So far he's outfoxed the neocons and Obomba at every turn.
His biggest weapon is nuking the petrodollar.
I believe, the US administration actually wants this, because it is the only way out to justify military action in Iran.
Obomba will introduce martial law in the US at that point, because he knows the people won't stand for it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c6a88eab8ea21425b5578Jerry FreyFri, 21 Mar 2014 12:36:24 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c6a88eab8ea21425b5578
…“One spring morning, amidst the piles of dead peasants at the Kharkiv market, an infant suckled the breast of its mother, whose face was a lifeless gray. Passersby had seen this before . . . that precise scene, the tiny mouth, the last drops of milk, the cold nipple. The Ukrainians had a term for this. They said to themselves, quietly, as they passed: ‘These are the buds of the socialist spring.’ ”
<a href="http://napoleonlive.info/what-you-think/tsar-putin-the-terrible/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://napoleonlive.info/what-you-think/tsar-putin-the-terrible/</a>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c687feab8eaaa455b5573Jungle JimFri, 21 Mar 2014 12:27:43 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c687feab8eaaa455b5573
To put the nicest face on it, Obama is way out of his depth and many of the advisers around him reflect his views rather than cold reality, Holder being only one example. But this could spin out of anyone's control in another way. Assuming that Russia occupies the entire Ukraine, which seems likely, There is probably going to be a large number of Ukrainians who will refuse to live under Russian domination. The accelerator could be an insurgency that disrupts normal life, Those people will flood into Europe. The population of Ukraine is about 45 million, at least 35 million of which are ethnic Ukrainians. So, even a small percentage of them could cause a lot of headaches. The European Union is not set up to cope with that.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c66a9eab8ead33c5b557557nomadFri, 21 Mar 2014 12:19:53 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c66a9eab8ead33c5b5575
Lenin: Probe with bayonets: where you find mush, proceed; where you find steel, withdraw.
The scenarios in the article are not mutually exclusive and are a long way from being exhaustive. The Russians will not stop, they must be stopped. That is the undeniable lesson of history. Expecting it to be different this time is nothing more than adolescent sentimentality and only encourages the aggressors. Obama will never respond with force and Putin knows it. Unfortunately so do the Iranians, the North Koreans, and the Chinese. We will be lucky if this guy doesn't get us all killed,http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c655c6bb3f76b435b557dMuleBoy0662Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:14:20 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c655c6bb3f76b435b557d
They should ask Sarah Palin. She got laughed at by "the experts" when she predicted Putin's move into Ukraine a few years back.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c615decad0430525b5573mikej77Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:57:17 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c615decad0430525b5573
That is over now. Putin leads an enemy government until such time that he is removed or removes himself. He might wind up burning on a pile of gasoline soaked mattresses like his blood brother, Vladimir Hitler or hanging upside down like Benito Putin.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c6059eab8ea81275b5573mikej77Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:52:57 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c6059eab8ea81275b5573
Total energy portfolio from all sources will diversify rapidly and total units of energy available will rise very sharply. Energy shortages are supply transients due to inadequate tech. Energy is no problem - price or supply volume.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c5fa06bb3f7442b5b5579mikej77Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:49:52 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c5fa06bb3f7442b5b5579
USSR-2 and Putin Stalin will continue to wither as they have been for past 45 years since Nixon/Kissinger opening to China.
Russians who are educated and talented and understand that this is the 20th Century emigrate while you can.
USA: Hiring the best since 1789!
*** If you stay in Russia you will risk crushing poverty and/or a bullet in the head. Sergei Magnitsky though the bad days were over right up until Putin killed him.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c5f506bb3f703285b5578Stan WyjatowyFri, 21 Mar 2014 11:48:32 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c5f506bb3f703285b5578
My concern is that Russia will annex Polish territory to connect Kallingrad to mainland Russia, similar to what Hitler wanted to do in 1939 through the "Polish Corridor." (Wikipedia "Berlinka.")http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c5e3fecad046d435b5573SkepticalreasonFri, 21 Mar 2014 11:43:59 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c5e3fecad046d435b5573
2017- Cuba invaded by USA to 'protect' American citizens living there.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c5e066da81167095b5579HennyFri, 21 Mar 2014 11:43:02 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c5e066da81167095b5579
"Russian President Vladimir Putin has invaded and annexed Crimea"....that's very short sighted Michael Kelley. People don't really seem mind in Crimea do they? They even voted to have it that way. It's ironic that everyone points at Putin saying he is the devil and an Imperialist while your own country has invaded (or "is stationed in" if that sounds nicer) in several countries where locals don't want them either.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c5dc969bedd04485b5577mikej77Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:42:01 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c5dc969bedd04485b5577
Next new nation to join the EU may be Belarus. Check map. This locks to Poland, Baltic Republics, Ukraine, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Caspian, Kazakhstan, China, Beijing, Raison City NK, Vladivostok.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c5ccfeab8ea9f195b5573mikej77Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:37:51 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c5ccfeab8ea9f195b5573
Very good! His valet will serve the *stroke powder* in his tea. "He seemed so healthy, too."http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c5b9f6bb3f7de265b5574jason hFri, 21 Mar 2014 11:32:47 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c5b9f6bb3f7de265b5574
This article is based on pure unsubstantiated speculation by a neocon advocacy group.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c5b1decad042b3f5b5573JJ-RFri, 21 Mar 2014 11:30:37 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c5b1decad042b3f5b5573
So West should give credits to Lukashenko and Nazarbaev, despite being no so democratic, frankly speaking not democratic at all. But in the scent of money they will fall apart from Russia and evil empire will have no moves at all. They will die of paranoia thinking that they're surrounded by enemies.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c584feab8eabd7d5b557dSouth China SeaFri, 21 Mar 2014 11:18:39 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c584feab8eabd7d5b557d
The former Japanese Ambassador to the USA told me last Fall the the Japanese were afraid that if there was a quick strike by China, to seize the disputed islands in the South China Sea, that they would be unprepared and that the Americans wouldn't be able to intervene.
The Russians just proved that point in Crimea and I'd say that, with the recent Chinese Navy activities against the Philippines and Malaysia over disputed islands and shoals, that the Japanese fears are very real.
Let's face it, china has a veto vote too and the USA isn't going to go to war over two tiny islands.
Obama has lost the Cold War victory won by Reagan and let Russia and China back into the game. The Cold War is back on thank to Barrack's bungling leadership.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c5810ecad044c335b5576Col KlinkFri, 21 Mar 2014 11:17:36 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c5810ecad044c335b5576
The EU / London / Soros sent the revolution into Ukraine. Now they all sign law to divide the nation.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c570beab8ea397a5b5576FlechetteFri, 21 Mar 2014 11:13:15 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c570beab8ea397a5b5576
Who cares what the "experts" have to say. I'll listen to Sarah Palin instead. She was right, they were wrong.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c553becad04f0215b557bVukasinFri, 21 Mar 2014 11:05:31 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c553becad04f0215b557b
I would be very interested to find out from Top Intelligence about Americas next moves?!?
Vietnam, Iraq, Iran, Bosnia, Serbia, Syria, Afghanistan, Egypt, Ukraine???
Which is next place where they would like to rule in "Democratic way" - Bombing countrieshttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c550969bedd05355b5573ferretFri, 21 Mar 2014 11:04:41 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c550969bedd05355b5573
Amen to that.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c53876da811e6595b5575America1sterFri, 21 Mar 2014 10:58:15 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c53876da811e6595b5575
Business insider has some credibility issues when it comes to it's reporting of the facts pertaining to the covert US violent coup in the Ukraine while Putin was focused on and involved in the smooth operation of the winter Olympics. Soon enough the people of Ukraine will evict the US puppet Yatsenyuik and also eagerly join with Crimea and Russia, which of course will leave lapdog western news orgs with egg on their faces and an even smaller piece of the info dissemination pie.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c519eeab8ea10685b5575nixoFri, 21 Mar 2014 10:50:06 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c519eeab8ea10685b5575
2018, Putin suffers a devastating stroke and is incapacitated, setting in motion a power struggle among the top oligarchs. Former Soviet states take this as a cue to hastily join NATO. Meanwhile, China annexes half of Siberia to protect 'Asian minorities', Russia proves impotent to do anything about it. Everyone wins. The last final nail is put in Putin's coffin.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c4e9c69bedd28195b5576AskCommentFri, 21 Mar 2014 10:37:16 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c4e9c69bedd28195b5576
things happen in days and weeks not years, this isnt the 17th centuryhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c4b2c69beddb6065b5577anotherblackguyFri, 21 Mar 2014 10:22:36 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c4b2c69beddb6065b5577
"Hebrew bankers"
LOL!!! Yea you tell those Jewz you are on to them!!
Anyway, yea Russia is going to invade Kazakhstan, LOL again.
This article is nuts and so are the comments.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c4aebecad0490065b5573troobleFri, 21 Mar 2014 10:21:31 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c4aebecad0490065b5573
The west has a declining energy consumption profile anyway. Since the Arab embargo of 1973, consumption per capita has dropped every year. This accelerates as the US reverses suburban sprawl and IT subverts spending in real facilities. Commercial real estate is contracting in the US, as is the private car sector and detached housing. Other countries follow the same trend. WE DO NOT NEED RUSSIAN GAS. Shut it the hell off.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c48b3ecad0492785b5575StrategyFri, 21 Mar 2014 10:12:03 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c48b3ecad0492785b5575
How Europe could retaliate:
1) Develop own gas supplies. The ones remaining in the North Sea, but also the ones underground in shales.
2) Develop alternative supply lines. Build pipelines and LNG terminals to reduce dependence on Russian gas.
3) Develop a common European gas infrastructure to make it impossible for Russia to cut a single country off.
4) Increase energy efficiency to further reduce dependence on (Russian) gas. Invest in renewable energy.
5) Do not phase nuclear power stations out until dependence on Russia is reduced to a tolerable level.
Source: <a href="http://blogs.ft.com/nick-butler/2014/03/16/energy-europes-answer-to-vladimir-putins-threats/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://blogs.ft.com/nick-butler/2014/03/16/energy-europes-answer-to-vladimir-putins-threats/</a>
6) Perhaps change the energy mix to reduce dependence on Russian gas. Less gas, but more coal and oil.
7) Invest in future energy sources, like underground coal gasification, thorium fuel cycles and nuclear fusion.
8) Bolster the strategic gas reserves so that short term disruptions in the gas supply won't be a problem.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c47d469bedde8725b5576ferretFri, 21 Mar 2014 10:08:20 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c47d469bedde8725b5576
Good for putin.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c46476da811a1245b5573Jungle JimFri, 21 Mar 2014 10:01:43 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c46476da811a1245b5573
The "sanctions" are a public joke. The wealth of a few oligarchs pales into insignificance when you remember that the stakes in this game are entire countries. Putin is determined to reestablish Russia as it used to be. It is quite unlikely that he will stop with Ukraine OR Belorus. The Baltic States also have large ethnic Russian populations too and so are subject to the same ploys. The problem is that our power grids and Internet are thinly protected and we are more dependent upon them than Russia is on theirs. Serious interference with them would probably force us into military action fairly early. This will not end well.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c45a8eab8ea39365b5575Laughable?Fri, 21 Mar 2014 09:59:04 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c45a8eab8ea39365b5575
Read again: "In January, Wikistrat analysts forecast the potential for Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych to resign (which he did a month later) and for Crimea to request annexation into Russia (which occurred this week)."http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c435eecad04dd655b5577Florida GrandmaFri, 21 Mar 2014 09:49:18 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c435eecad04dd655b5577
Why is the site such a shill for Big Oil and their lapdog the US government?
Hey Hypocrites, remember our torturing war criminal ex-President??? That inarticulate fake cowboy we put into office twice??? So what we did in Iraq and Afghanistan, that was humane and/or just??? What about Libya??? The majority Russians in Ukraine want this! Stop thinking about your oil corporations and think about what is good for the planet and people of Crimea.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c40d96bb3f767485b5573laughableFri, 21 Mar 2014 09:38:33 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c40d96bb3f767485b5573
top intelligence analysts?
i don't recall anyone telling the west to take it easy on Ukraine otherwise the West risks Russia invading Crimea.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c3f24ecad04de575b5577Gringo Bush PilotFri, 21 Mar 2014 09:31:16 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/532c3f24ecad04de575b5577
The religious nutcases must be thanking their respective gods for the stupidity of the United States, While plane loads of "off to meet their virgins" murder thousands in New York, and hundreds of religious baby killers work their evil in Beslan, Ossetia, the two countries that can rein them in (The US and Russia) tangle over historically validated borders - borders only contested by Hebrew bankers. Wake up, you fools - we are on the same side.