This new law becomes effective for first time non resident applicants May 10, 2011 and for renewal of non resident permits 1/1/2012. Those requirements are:53-5-704.(4) (a) In addition to meeting the other qualifications for the issuance of a concealed firearm permitunder this section, a nonresident applicant who resides in a state that recognizes the validity of the Utah permit or has reciprocity with Utah's concealed firearm permit law shall:

(i) hold a current concealed firearm or concealed weapon permit issued by the appropriatepermitting authority of the nonresident applicant's state of residency; and(ii) submit a photocopy or electronic copy of the nonresident applicant's current

I have a Utah permit. As a resident of California, which does NOT recognize Utah's, I can have a non-resident permit but when I move to Texas, I have to get a Texas permit in order to renew the Utah one. I am hoping that will be soon.

Florida accepts permits from residents of the states they honor. They will not honor a Non-Resident permit from any state they honor. So, my Utah permit, being a non-resident permit, is no good in Florida, but my Florida permit is. I no longer have a CA permit (it expired and since I am moving to Texas, I did not renew) but my Texas resident permit will be when I get it.

Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

It used to be that the answer was an unqualified "Yes." But last year, Utah passed a new law that they will not issue a non-resident permit to someone unless that person has a valid permit from their state of residence. What that means is that if you apply NOW for a non-resident Utah CFP, they will not give you one unless you already have a CHL. However, If you moved here with a valid Utah non-resident CFP, then it might still be valid. But once it expires, you will not be able to renew it until you have a valid resident CHL.

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03Lightningrocks wrote:This is the way I understand the law to work as well. i believe the other part of this is that when you go to renew your Utah non resident, they will require you have a Texas resident CHL for renewal.

A Utah non resident permit is valid to carry concealed in Texas. Regardless of whether you have a Texas CHL or not.

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Page a poster named crossfire.... They teach the Utah coarse and are the experts on this. It might be trickier than I am thinking. ... Or not.

This is the way I understand it.

03Lightningrocks wrote:One more little tidbit that may be a problem. If Utah requires you update your residence with them to maintain your Utah permit, I wonder if they might invalidate your permit based on the new rules?

I believe here that Utah would just do a change of address as Texas does for a small fee. Don't know that for sure though.

One of the Utah instructors will surely be along to answer this for sure.

It used to be that the answer was an unqualified "Yes." But last year, Utah passed a new law that they will not issue a non-resident permit to someone unless that person has a valid permit from their state of residence. What that means is that if you apply NOW for a non-resident Utah CFP, they will not give you one unless you already have a CHL. However, If you moved here with a valid Utah non-resident CFP, then it might still be valid. But once it expires, you will not be able to renew it until you have a valid resident CHL.

This is the correct answer. Your Utah non-resident permit is honored in Texas. But, when it expires, Utah will not renew it unless you also have a Texas CHL.

You do want to update the address on the permit. You can do that by email. Info here: http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/CFAddChg.htmlIt doesn't cost anything to update your address, unless you want a new card, then I think they want $15 for that.

03Lightningrocks wrote:One more little tidbit that may be a problem. If Utah requires you update your residence with them to maintain your Utah permit, I wonder if they might invalidate your permit based on the new rules?

When I moved to Texas, I updated my address for my Utah non-resident license without giving them any Texas CHL information. It was a simple address change to an existing license.

03Lightningrocks wrote:One more little tidbit that may be a problem. If Utah requires you update your residence with them to maintain your Utah permit, I wonder if they might invalidate your permit based on the new rules?

When I moved to Texas, I updated my address for my Utah non-resident license without giving them any Texas CHL information. It was a simple address change to an existing license.

That's what I think should happen but when you renew, you'll have to have a TCHL or move!

Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.