Simcountry is a multiplayer Internet game in which you are the president, commander in chief, and industrial leader. You have to make the tough decisions about cutting or raising taxes, how to allocate the federal budget, what kind of infrastructure you want, etc..

Friday, November 8, 2013 - 10:03 pm The Nations of UCM (drys0013), East Heaven Kingdom( Tailisbeth), and The United Empire of Peragus (Nico) have all been granted permission to station troops in The Empire of Metudela(me).

Taili will represent the Union, Nico will represent BME, and Drys will be a neutral participant. This will work as a deterrent to further conflict between BME and the UNION.

Friday, November 8, 2013 - 11:12 pm We will have to discuss this strange proposal involving 2 more parties than the already involved in the issue... Why UCM? This is not his business. Nor does it concern him or his federation whatsoever. A meeting? heh, hopefully the ones planning it will actually PLAN it and not blame a failure on us. We will attend meetings, nothing is promised, but the date and time has to be set. The Federal Membership will drop in at their pleasing if they wish. The proposal above will be discussed in the Federation. Honourable Lisbeth will decide if she will provide that service or not IF we approve the mentioned proposal...

I hope another member of the WG Cowboys will be present in a meeting other than Nico... Things with this guy always go wrong. Not to ruin the "Fun" or anything...

Friday, November 8, 2013 - 11:21 pm 1.) Because UCM is already allowed in my country so I figured I may as well throw him in.

2.) Nico suggested the meeting not me, I didn't even mention one.

I am trying to help put everything behind your two federations but you always seem to have something to complain about Wolfker.

Possibility of a meeting: Proposed Participants Kirk of BME Nico of BME two other BME member ---------------------- Wolfker of the UNION Lisbeth of the Union Space of the Union Dyna of the Union ---------------------- Myself

I'll host the meeting on Chatzy and send Nico, and yourself the meeting link. The link will be given to the above participants, and a date and time will be set for all participants to meet. There no a meeting has been proposed.

Friday, November 8, 2013 - 11:37 pm Yeah, I like to complain for our well being, Ian. BME is virtually in-existent in WG. And yeah, that part of the meeting was obviously directed at him... I would like to add Ardglass to our participants. Nico is not even part of the BME any more, he is in a Federation called the WG Cowboys, we would like a member from that Federation, preferably Wisco or Hello Kitty if possible.

A meeting should be set for this evening just as a test.... If possible, at around 7 Central or later.

Friday, November 8, 2013 - 11:42 pm Possibility of a meeting: Proposed Participants Kirk of BME Nico of BME/WG COWBOYS Wisco of WG Cowboys Hello Kitty of WG Cowboys member of either Cowboys or BME ---------------------- Wolfker of the UNION Lisbeth of the Union Space of the Union Dyna of the Union Ardglass of the Union ---------------------- Myself

Saturday, November 9, 2013 - 01:50 am I hate to inform you, but BME is still very much present in WG. Also, would like to point out that Nico gave me a link to this so-called meeting, that I had no clue to what I was even entering. If he called it, and he is my partner in the game, it would stand to reason that he would want me there.

I also want to point out that I have never been treated so rudely in this game by members of The Union. There was no reason to kick me from the meeting.

Again, I state, if you are wanting to be diplomatic and gain respect, then please treat people with respect, especially a leader/founder of another federation. You will last longer. Remember, your actions not only affect you in one world, but across all worlds. Again, my parting advice to you in a game where it is soooooo important to not offend others.

Saturday, November 9, 2013 - 02:16 pm By the way Ian, it's not really a "peace" meeting if you threaten to get Aries and Serpent on me. Now is it? And yes, Ian. I DID want a meeting. Under MY terms. Not yours. Due to the fact you have the tendency to erase messages. So please explain your self. Thanks

Saturday, November 9, 2013 - 02:20 pm P.S I invited Jan. She IS part of BME and she should be part of it. You don't see us excluding members of The Union, now do you? She is my friend and ally. You WILL accept her or forget about the meeting. And THAT is another reason why I want to start the meeting, not Ian. Oh and Ian, I asked Madison if she would hit me and she said no. So please don't bring her up just cause you don't have one . Thanks

Saturday, November 9, 2013 - 02:29 pm Ian Cameron, just please stop with your pitiful threats and poor behavior. You do your federation, The Union, no good whatsoever.

Furthermore, you honestly think that Aries and Serpent would involve themselves for YOU? I don't think so. I think you forget that Nico, the one you are threatening, IS a member of their federation on Fearless Blue, not to mention that BME is a sister federation of HYDRA. Aries and Serpent both have been VERY instrumental in helping me form BME. I have played alongside Serpent in this game for many years and have been federated with him. You also forget that Jackseptic, a personal friend of mine and member of Hydra, was very prepared to come join me on WG to go after The Union. I have also served alongside Jack in a federation. We go back many, many years.

Also, Hydra are the good guys in this game. They won't involve themselves in idiocy, like what you are doing.

I am planning on retiring from Simcountry, but I do have time for one last blowout before I go. I am VERY tempted to come back to WG and finish what I had originally planned, and your federation will have YOU to thank, as I had declared PEACE.

So you care to explain why you, the moderator, of that meeting kicked me?

Saturday, November 9, 2013 - 02:36 pm I was being sarcastic Nico, and you know that. As for Jan, she stated she was "retiring" from the game and was just going to "lounge" in the forums and chat. and Last I was told she left Bme and you were kicked from it. Either way it was a test to see if people would actually show up and not a actual meeting.

I erased the messages between me and you because they were simply me asking if Kirk, Wisco, and Hello kitty were online. You said Kirk wasn't and that Kitty and Wisco were not aloud. That is all I erased.

I didn't bring Madison up because I don't have a gf, I brought her up as a joke, just like with Serp and Aries.

I set two terms during the meeting, and that was BME/Coywboys don't bad mouth the Union, and vice versa. I said those were the basic terms and for you and Wolfker to add your own terms and that we would sort it out in the end.

I kicked Jan from the chat because in my experience when ever her and Union members are in the same room they argue. Not to mention Jan usually wants everything done HER way and if it doesn't go HER way she throws a fit and threatens to send Aries and Serp and every other big LU player at people.

Saturday, November 9, 2013 - 02:40 pm It is my chat room, the people I invite were the people allowed, if I didn't invite them then they were not to be there. You are once again over re-acting jan, I rejoined the Union late last night under strict rules where I must keep a cool head and not insult anyone in chat or on the forums, I am not aloud to enter Chat under other alias (never planned on it), etc, etc.

Saturday, November 9, 2013 - 02:43 pm Now all the sudden since you are on the spot light, you say it's a joke. Oh and everything you all the sudden bring up is a joke? So how do we know this meeting is a joke? Eh? I will be working on the next meeting and Ian is banned. He is neither in The Union and not in BME. Therefore he has no business in this meeting. Also, you, Ian should be worried about ME not jan. I am war level 3, NOT jan. And Serp and Aries are not just LU people, Serp I believe is on most planets and Aries is also on Fearless Blue. So learn you facts

Saturday, November 9, 2013 - 02:46 pm I brought up Madison, Serpent, and Aries as a joke. I put lol afterwards to show I was joking. The meeting was once again a test to see if people would show up. I've been complaining about the Union and BMEs conflicts for days, the peace meeting is no joke.

I hate to inform you, but I am still a co-leader of BME. I founded the federation and Nico is my friend and a partner with me and Kirk in the federation. Whether I am located on WG is inconsequential, as I still am a leader of ALL matters relative to BME. Again, just goes to show your ignorance of the game and how it works.

Well congratulations, you haven't even been a rejoining member of The Union for 12 hours and you have offended me.

Furthermore, you say I overreacted? You are the one who kicked me from the meeting (a federated leader) for no reason, whatsoever. Again, not very smart.

I really feel for The Union. They keep trying with players like you, but you will only bring them continued strife and worry.

Saturday, November 9, 2013 - 02:56 pm The Union's issues are Nico and which ever Fed he is in. This is now WG Cowboys and not BME. Thus only members of Wg Cowboys and the Union should be in the meeting not members of BME.

Saturday, November 9, 2013 - 07:15 pm We do not desire relations with the BME, that means we don't want to see Nico, period.

Talks with WG Cowboys are under way.

It is standard protocol to kick players from meetings, we know they may be spies under other alias, you were not, but you were affected by said protocol.

We do not WANT any discussions with the BME, I believe I made that VERY, VERY clear in a few posts back. The negotiations are with the WG COWBOYS, we don't want ANYTHING, ANYTHING, with the BME, a Federation that has caused most of the Union's problems in its 300 year old existence. We do not mind if we have no further meetings, we do NOT CARE. I AM TIRED OF THIS NONSENSE. We are aware of intelligence from the WG Cowboys that Nico won't be necessary in the near future. He will not participate in future meetings with the WG Cowboys and will not be recognised as a member of such.

Good Day, I hope I was crystal clear.

And as Ian is a member of The Union, you know our stance Jan. He did nothing to offend you and he has stopped his reasonable explanations as the Nico, as usual, escalates the situation.

He has agreed to specific terms before re-entering, that included some restraint in the forums, he accomplished that, I see no reason to get angry.

Saturday, November 9, 2013 - 07:19 pm Thank you Wolfker. We were speaking on fb and Nico put me in jan in a group chat so i could explain things, i did and got no reply back. I'll say it again here.

Jan joined the chat. I asked why she was present. She stated Nico gave her the link and said she would leave. I kicked her from the chat to speed the process up. She re-joined and instead of ask why she was kicked proceeded to state that we had pissed her off and then left again. I told her on fb that if she had wanted to stay when she returned she could have.

I explained this on fb but have received no reply. There was no reason to get angry.

Saturday, November 9, 2013 - 10:17 pm Nico, future negotiations with you won't be necessary. Have a happy life in BME, argument over. Ian, just ignore Nico, we don't need to hand over explanations for standard protocol.

Saturday, November 9, 2013 - 10:32 pm Well wolfker I think the whole idea was to have a neutral person involved. Since both sees me personally as neutral it would possibly avoid some further tensions. Allow for a person to help mediate your meeting. However it is bad timing for me. Sorry Ian. I had brain surgery and am not able to get to a meeting. I just recently was informed of this. But when I recover if the union or BME wants a mediator, I would help in the interest of creating some peace. My federation has peace as a priority interest. It is not specifically my business of you're affairs but if it helps create a neutral way to talk or mediate a meeting then I would offer such services in interest of the greater good. @jan I wish you best of luck on whatever you choose. To stay or to go. @all: sorry I am not able to attend for the sake of peace on WG .

Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 01:55 am I hope your surgery went well, I do not wish to involve your Federation in any issues whatsoever... The fact that The Union Federation won't be negotiating any more with BME has no need for any neutral party stepping in.

Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 02:26 am Thank you, Drys, for your sweetness. You should be taking care of you, and not be here in the game. SCOWL!!! I wish you a very speedy recovery and you are in my prayers. I am in agreement with Wolfker. There is no need to mediate between BME and The Union. My offer of peace with that group will now be rescinded, and I am now open to any military action against said federation should it be deemed necessary.

Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 02:53 am Well even after all me and the Union have been through, I don't feel at home unless i'm in the Union with the men and woman I started this game with. Once again i wish you well UCM, I hope we can still be as close as we were before mate.

Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 02:58 am Any military action against us? For what? For kicking you out of a meeting as standard procedure calls for? Listen, I/we, don't care. You have threatened us for years for no apparent reason, and your supposed "support"? No one, you were ousted in a coup without The Union doing a thing. No one except your loyal dog, Nico. And yet you say you love us? Pfft

Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 05:12 am Wolfker, please read my message again. I said that military action would ensue if I deem it necessary. I didn't say I was going to declare war on you now or any time soon. I could care less about your meeting. I just thought it rude is all. But then that is really all I've been subjected to by some members of your federation, so how do you expect me to react? I am nice to those who treat me nice.

You really do rub me the wrong way. You need to learn to choose your words wisely, because BME and my allies can wipe out your entire fed who is in a war level to be attacked. This is not a threat. It is a fact. You DON'T know who you are dealing with.

Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 08:16 am Thanks Ian, Philipp, and Jan for such warm wishes. I have hope and send it your way as well. May hope and peace abound regardless of misunderstanding and resolve without provocation. Yea Ian it is to resolve my head pains. May that find resolve also! Here is to resolve!!

As for everyone else, I don't think talk of who can wipe whom out is terribly productive when one is trying to secure peace. As much fun as war is, you all know that there is such a thing as secured mode, war protection and of course the war levels so wiping anyone out is not really an obtainable goal. It would be one thing if everyone was just having fun with this stuff, but it seems to me to be getting awfully personal at times.

I suppose if both sides could come to an agreement as to what sort of war could be held and to hold that as per the rules than that might solve something.

Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 08:14 pm Perhaps we can start with breaking relations permanently Jan, by doing that no one will be rude to you and you can halt your threats to my Federation. I am real tired. Real tired. You cared less for the meeting? Then why attend? We were set up, apologies, the meeting was with WG Cowboys, which just merged with us, not with BME. We see that no productive relation can be held with you, or your Federation, without being "Insulted" by something meaningless, therefore a break is necessary.

We can actually start now, good bye Jan, I am not responding to your Posts or anything from you whatsoever. If our Monkey Policy worked with the Kosovo, GPP and WGP Federations, it will work with you. A proper, last resort to preserving the peace.

I will make the request for you. It is the least I can do. (I will also write the GMs to have them look into this as well.) I don't play personas. I don't have to. :P You may also confirm with other players too, who KNOW Bobo, like Dboyd who has been on WG for a very long time.

Dear Gamemaster,

Will you please do as these game people suggest and run the accounts of me and Kirk to verify that we are two separate people playing the game. I live in the United States and Bobo lives in Canada. Thank you.

Also, The Union, you will ANSWER for these allegations. I have forwarded them to Bobo (Kirk) and I will make them known as well to my allies in the game. Also, I was warned by the GMs about making such allegations against Wendy, and I expect the GMs to uphold this as well.

I'll post the chat convo:

ian> could be possible. wolfker> It looks reasonable ian> She might use her Wicked Lady Persona to get the big boys on her side and then use Kirk as her own Version of Gabriel the Arch Angel ian> and the only person he speaks to is Jan herself wolfker> Maybe, but assumptions are useless and dangerous ian> indeed ian> make an incorrect assumption and bad things happen. ian> We could request for andy to scan for accounts with the same Ip adress's wolfker> Anyone in WG experiencing a lousy accumulation of Medical Materials, Fruit, Sport and Wine? ian> negative wolfker> I am, had to reduce production to 40% ian> lol thehoneybadger> whats up guys ian> he wisco wolfker> Hey ian> badger, you were in kirks fed right? thehoneybadger> yep ian> Well me and wolfker have a theory. I'd like to gather some Data.

Did you ever speak directly to Kirk? Did Kirk ever send out fed wide messages? Did the fed ever have private chats with both Jan and Kirk present? thehoneybadger> jan and kirk are two different people lets not let our imaginations run wild ian> I'd still like to know. thehoneybadger> i highly doubt someone would make two premium accounts and also be able to get away with it ian> very well ian> do either of you play Star Wars: The Old Republic? thehoneybadger> i dont ian> you should check it out. its free to play

To Wisco/Honeybadger, thank you for stating the record straight. That I do respect, young man.

Monday, November 11, 2013 - 01:24 am Before i begin following the monkey policy, if you look closely you will notice that I put the issue into the ground. The only reason the suspicion was there is because none of us have seen him speak in the forums or in chat, the only person that can actually say they speak to him is you jan. But The idea was put 6 feet in the dirt, so just let it be.

Monday, November 11, 2013 - 10:22 pm No after a conversation today in chat with one of the Union Members, I am retiring immediately. I was going to wait til the end of my membership in January, but I'm leaving immediately.

I want no part of what I am seeing here with some individuals in the game.

Monday, November 11, 2013 - 10:30 pm Hmm using bananas for a nice tropical drink Stallion Jan and Bobo are the same person. Not that I care but wow it is clear. Some people will spend money to creat anything

Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 12:50 am @ Alterd Carbon hope for your sake that I have read your message wrong and that YOU are not accusing ME of being TWL or somebody called Bobo, because if you are, then to resolve your suspicion i'll just have to get my card out to pay for premium membership which will confirm therefore my true identity and that I AM based in the UK not in the USA which if I am not mistaken is where TWL is from and having read the info from previous posts whoever this Bobo is, is from Canada.

Tell you what, Andy is the Gamemaster he moderates these forums re the posts, so ANDY if you do read my post tonight, can you get these rumors cleared up please once and for all, because I do not wish to get dragged into any accusation of being somebody else or having more than one account etc.

Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 01:22 am I think he just didn't use punctuation.

"Hmm using bananas for a nice tropical drink Stallion? Jan and Bobo are the same person. Not that I care but wow it is clear. Some people will spend money to create anything." Is what I believe he meant.

Friday, November 29, 2013 - 05:48 am Well done Nico you jerk on taking my slave, I was a peaceful player and suddenly you declare and take my only slave away. Well you enjoy your game as I not wasting anymore time on Simcountry. Well done, you succeeded in eliminating an active player. Have a good life.

Friday, November 29, 2013 - 06:34 am Peaceful? If you were peaceful, would you be WL3? No you wouldn't. And thanks bro! Have a good life as well although before you leave, make sure you take your main out of secured and take WP off so I can take your main too

I know it is discouraging to lose your country to war, but that is part of the game. If you go WL3 and have a slave, you MUST either put up a defense, buy war protection, or risk losing it. Rather than quit the game, learn from the experience and be a stronger player for it. Also, you call Nico a name again, I'm coming after YOU myself!!!! That is my adopted sim child! No one calls him a name but ME!!! SCOWL!!!!!!!

Sunday, December 1, 2013 - 01:21 pm Rob..u really need to calm down and try to learn from this loss,don't just quit.

As for what nico did well he did what he was supposed to, he saw an area with no proper defence he's a pvp player so he swooped down and claimed your slave, u should try to reclaim what you clearly feel is yours or learn from your mistake grow wise, play the game a little better that way next time may be just may be you can keep your territory.

Wednesday, December 4, 2013 - 03:50 am sad to say it but rob was in my region and i had exchanged messages with him several times offering my friendship.... i even asked him twice to join my fed and if he were in my fed there would have been no way Nico would win that war... he was a decent player but for some reason wanted to be in a fed all by his lonesome... shame dont get to attached to your slaves anyone

Sunday, December 8, 2013 - 01:57 pm Monday, November 11, 2013 - 10:22 pm Click here to edit this post -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No after a conversation today in chat with one of the Union Members, I am retiring immediately. I was going to wait til the end of my membership in January, but I'm leaving immediately.

I want no part of what I am seeing here with some individuals in the game.

I know it is discouraging to lose your country to war, but that is part of the game. If you go WL3 and have a slave, you MUST either put up a defense, buy war protection, or risk losing it. Rather than quit the game, learn from the experience and be a stronger player for it. Also, you call Nico a name again, I'm coming after YOU myself!!!! That is my adopted sim child! No one calls him a name but ME!!! SCOWL!!!!!!!

Sunday, December 8, 2013 - 05:56 pm Jan is one of the best people I have met in this game. She is a true friend. You two should be a shamed. How many times did she call you, Alterd to help you with your situation in real life, to offer you encouragement. Same to you, Ian. She tried to make you feel better when you had your self esteem issue and this is what you do to her? And THAT ladies and gentlemen, is why Ian has no friends and real life

Sunday, December 8, 2013 - 07:16 pm Its how the game works... Politik, Politik, Politik... We have many differences, among them the following; The Union is large, active and democratic (If we are declining democratically its because of the membership not one dictator...), The Union doesn't oblige its members to go on genocidal wars against a Federation that barely takes notice of us, is 6 times larger, rejected an alliance with us and has dealt with pests in the past... In fact is specialised on that... You just proved how impotent you all are.

Sunday, December 8, 2013 - 08:07 pm I never did anything to harm jan and I don't know why everyone is still going on about this. Jan came to a meeting she wasn't meant to be in, I asked her why she was there and she said "Nico gave me the link but i'll leave", so I kicked her from the chat to speed stuff up. She came back and instead of simply asking why she was kicked from the chat she stated we had pissed her off and earned her wrath and than left.

Had Jan either not joined the chat or had simply asked why she was kicked from the chat we would not be in this current situation, everyone just needs to grow up and forget the stupid bs of the past.

Also I never asked jan for "help" she started trying to be my mother to me which I honestly found creepy. My self esteem issues are my issues to resolve in real life not stuff to be put here on the forums as an attack against me. Also I have friends nico, people I talk to on weekdays and hang out with. You being another Wendy attacking people personally because you have no other way to do so.

Andy can you please close this thread so it and it's contents can be forgotten?

Monday, December 9, 2013 - 01:34 am I thought the Union was a peaceful federation, yet it is issuing war decs....this goes against everything Wolfker and others have said about The Union. Wonders if it is ALL lies.

Monday, December 9, 2013 - 03:37 am You have aggressively attacked a friend of mine who happens to be located in my region and i take interest in ongoings in my region.... i do not care to have enemies within fighter range of me... feel free to abandon the country

Monday, December 9, 2013 - 09:39 pm How about letting it be 1 v 1 instead of dragging a bunch of people into it. A person strength is measured by their power, intelligence, etc, etc not the power and intelligence, etc, etc of their friends.

Tuesday, December 10, 2013 - 12:17 am 2 things first Nico Jan is a friend of mine we do not agree on game issues Her giving me a little support in a time of need is not a bad thing. This is still a game so that is personal not your business. Second Jan and all her threats with bringing in all her big friends to kill everyone that offend her. The threat is real but not likely they are more mature than that stomping noobs are not there style just because she is pissed.

Tuesday, December 10, 2013 - 02:35 am Actually, Eb (Alterd), don't be too hard on Nico, because he is only echoing sentiments that I have shared with him. As my friend, first, he was taking up for me. It hurts when people that you liked and spent time with on a personal level as a friend bash you and taunt you in a game. For some reason you saw a need here to single me out. My question to you is why?

Oh and for the record, I'm not pissed off at all. I say stuff for giggles. Trust me, you'll know if I'm really angry.

Fort Serenity army takes full control in Respublica Ardglass After the attack, the president of Respublica Ardglass is reported to have left the country and a new government approved by Fort Serenity has been nominated. Respublica Ardglass (the attacked country) reports: The county of Rupert is completely destroyed. There were 1806 casualties and 2907 civilians were wounded. Weapons based at Rupert may have been destroyed. The defence was assisted by Defense helicopter Wing Elizabeth, Defense helicopter Wing Rubata and Defense helicopter Wing Bilthoven. Fort Serenity (the attacker) reports: Algara lost 97 mid range missile batteries. Algara lost trucks, gasoline and military supplies. The attack may have been reduced or eliminated by Anti Missile Missiles. 388 soldiers were killed and 875 were wounded.

That was one hell of a fight. I give Thewhy big props as he did a good job defending and attacking. Hopefully this is a message to the The Union that Ardglass is NOT undefeatable and nor is The Union.

Tuesday, December 10, 2013 - 03:47 am Even though the Union recognises defeat... It also recognises the fact that war was brought upon hastily and without being prepared in full. Our most distinguished War Members were in holidays and an accurate defence failed because of the quickness of the conflict.

I resigned as Head Councillor of The Union and I am not sure what the Federation's next course will be.... Leadership positions won't be up to me now. So don't come to me!

Tuesday, December 10, 2013 - 03:51 am Well it is not like I had declared war, Ardglass did. It's Ardglass's fault he had lost. I had no intentions in attacking The Union. Just clearly defended myself. Happy holidays and be safe everyone

Tuesday, December 10, 2013 - 05:58 am TheWhy: Nico you surprised me and exceeded expectations in every way from your nuke attacks to your rapid deployment to your gracious attitude after winning and as such i will be gracious in losing as well i recognize my defeat though i never considered myself unbeatable......i think we had a good go at it..... as per my defeat i will not bother you with your position in my region so long as you wish to maintain it nor will i trouble you with other matters with the exception of defending my allies however i must inform you that i intend to take every measure to retake my country that i have just lost.... it would please me greatly if you simply withdrew (certainly you are entitled to transfer all wealth possible) and allowed me to reclaim my lands which i have devoted much time to.... if not then you can expect another war one which i will be much better prepared for and not one so hastily planned aswell as one in which i have immediete access to large ground attacks.... as you can see i have already begun moving up the war levels and my military will be contructed at the fasted pace possible..... you can expect my Union friends to stand by me however they are not involved in the fighting or aggression except in the position of providing air defense at their discretion..... so that is where we stand and i await any further communication here or through message

Tuesday, December 10, 2013 - 02:47 pm First of all why cant TheWhy come out and say it himself? And I will have The Union know, I do NOT need to tell you whether I will keep Ardglass's country, that is top secret. But if I do keep it, and if Ardglass declares war on my empire again, not only will there be a war between Ardglass and I, but The Union will be dragged into it. We had our 1-on-1 like Ian wanted it to be. No more of that. The Union will suffer if a player from The Union declares war on me again. Also, Ardglass said "allowed me to reclaim my lands which i have devoted much time to...". Well it is Ardglass's fault that he lost his country, not I. I did not declare war, he did. I just finished it.

Perhaps your peaceful federation would not get into so many scrapes and drama if certain members didn't treat other players atrociously (namely one: Ian Cameron). I know that you have a group of free players, but you have to expect that if they insult other players, negative attention will always be drawn to your group.

I have the utmost respect for TheWhy (as I lovingly call him Tbone.) He actually stood up for me the day Ian Cameron spouted his insane nonsense in chat that day.

TheWhy fought valiantly last night. I would be proud to have him serve with me in the game any day, if I were still playing it. I also am very proud of Nico. In all my years of playing, this 15-year-old young man truly embodies the spirit of the game and true loyalty to his mates and friends.

For the record, I love you all. Bravo to both TheWhy and to Nico. As I told Nico last night, when things were in TheWhy's favor...it doesn't matter if you win or lose, it is how you play the game.

Tuesday, December 10, 2013 - 09:17 pm I haven't done anything to you jan, yet you continue to say I have. I haven't called you any names in public or anything against your "reputation". And yet when I ask you to say what it is I did you ignore me and if you do answer you just say something from forever ago that was amended. Tell everyone here in the forums what it is I did to wrong you recently.

Tuesday, December 10, 2013 - 09:18 pm also I don't believe sneak attacks from unknown players is a 1 V 1 war, and using mass nuke attacks against a player without said abilities isn't exactly fair either. The only battles Ardy lost was the ones you used nukes and Sf in.

Tuesday, December 10, 2013 - 09:29 pm You can't access the forums until you complete registration and then for 48 hours in a new account genius... I don't think anyone has public inhibitions in a game forum...

Tuesday, December 10, 2013 - 10:56 pm Furthermore, your negotiations are with him exclusively... Not the Union. If you want to bring in the rest of us, by all means, Lisbeth is back from her Holiday break. Do not escalate this more than you want to, overconfidence is always dangerous.

Tuesday, December 10, 2013 - 11:02 pm There will be NO negotiations with Ardglass. What I choose is what I choose. The Union will NOT dictate my choices. BUT The Union can dictate their fed members choice. If one more Union member declares war on me, The Union will suffer. I will not be the only one to attack The Union either. I have allies in and out of BME and they will assist in the war. So please. Do you want another embarrassing loss? This time it will be your federation. Not just one player. And "Duh" I don't know his country name.

Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 12:19 am First of all, kid? You are around the same age as I. At least that's what your Facebook shows. And indeed I said The Union will suffer. I never said that it will in real life? Did I say that? Nope! And all it will take is a dec from The Union. I will not be the aggressor unless provoked or attacked. And threatened? What was he threatened by? I could have swore he attacked cause Rob was his friend as well. Don't ask me since when they became friends, but I guess they were. Oh well.

Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 12:05 pm I suppose so, The United States declares war all the time and it's never fair I mean really they bomb the crap out of a country with stealth bombers so the country has no infrastructure and military and than send in a few platoons to clean up. Nico was simply following the ways of his country. No offense United Statians.

Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 12:11 pm Ian please. You said a 1-on-1. You said NOTHING about nukes. So shut the hell up. I beat Ardglass so go back to your little corner and complain some more. Also, I am very different from the USA. One, I'm not a super power. Two, I do not start wars, only end them. Three, I'm not fighting terriosts. Case closed. The Union lost their first battle. Quit crying

Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 12:28 pm Now you wanna joke around?? So you are telling me you came in on the thread bitching that I didn't fight a fair 1 v. 1 PVP war. Then you say I'm like the USA. Then when I come back with something. You say you are joking. Wow. Also, if you want to keep complaining, I'll be more than happy to have a fair 1 v. 1 war with you Ian. No nukes. Eh?

Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 12:59 pm I have been away from chat for so long, so to catch up - i notice "some" are like muppets - still having their strings pulled by comments from others and like to pick a fight.

Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 01:04 pm You honestly have not even the slightest sense of humor nico, I do bad jokes on this game because it is a game and not worth good ones. You need to chill out for once.

Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 04:45 pm Actually Ian, I DO have a sense of humor. Only if I consider you a friend, at least lol. Indeed you have bad jokes, but you were still bad on Facebook as well. And I am "chill". If I wasn't "chill" I would have destroyed you already. So I am "chill". And hahahaha Aaron.

Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 02:59 am well here i am Nico.... the game wouldnt let me get another country with that account.... it said i needed 15 GCs or some nonsense... dont know why your making such a big stink about it

thank you for your kind words Jan

what ian is trying to say is that conventionally i believe it was me that one however your tricky use of nukes and Sfs did quite abit of damage.... i should have been paying better attention as it could easily have been avoided but a win is a win... you saw a weakness and took advantage thats what its about

in other news ive noticed that you seemingly have given my country to Marko of mittenslost so my quarrel is no longer with you my plan has not changed and the exiled Ardglassian Republic is outraged at the incompetence of relief efforts conducted by the new dictatorship in Ardglass thousands are dying on top of the already millions dead... vengeance will be had

Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 03:12 am Why not keep your old account? Lol. And even if you wanted to, I believe you had to wait a day or what ever. I think. And I don't favor nukes, just trying a new motive. Didn't seen to work too much :/. And I honestly don't care about your RolePlay about how your country is under dictatorship or whatever. And even a member of The Union messaged me and said your role play was getting old lol

Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 04:05 am i just told you nico i didnt keep my old account because to register a new country i had to pay GCs.... my roleplay wasnt directed at you so calm down.... i dont role-play that much especially lately... havnt updated my wiki for about 100 game years

Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 04:10 am I believe you had to wait a real day or a game month to make a country. And who was it toward it to then? Lol. And jeez. What's up with you two tits telling me to calm down lol. I am calm lol.

Friday, December 13, 2013 - 06:16 am Ian you seam to have a good grasp on the BME flinging it at your neighbor seeing what sticks to the fan is another matter. My hopes are that you don't get any back wash

Friday, December 13, 2013 - 03:38 pm Well if you are faulting Nico for being under the age of 20, Alterd, then why are you conversing or giving any substance to what Ian Cameron has to say??? He is also 15. ha ha ha ha Matter of fact,,,,,,, your whole federation is composed of mostly under 20-year-olds. So, I guess you are calling your own fed members "frail children"? ha ha ha ha

You are just sore cuz a 15-year-old took your stuff in war, you being age 42!!! with how many years of game experience????? Then you go and hide in The Union. (*giggling over here!). They might not appreciate you referring to them as "frail" cuz they are under age 20!!! Tsk Tsk! :P

Friday, December 13, 2013 - 09:35 pm I don't believe he was calling anyone frail... Other than Nico... And less than a quarter of the federation are under 20 mind you... I think the term "Child" is well suited. Had he an older mentality, as most of the young members in The Union have, he would have some more respect behind him.

Friday, December 13, 2013 - 10:04 pm First off, Wolfie, I was talking to Eb and not to you, and it was in jest, thus the :P which followed the post.

Why must you always butt into matters that don't concern you? and be so damned insulting?

Wolfie, I'm really getting tired of you insulting Nico. You need to stop with the insults. If not, then I will unleash them upon all of you unmercifully for the remaining month I have left in this game.

You think your group is mature????? I beg to differ. Whatever cranks your tractor or makes you feel happy about yourself, young child. You shouldn't try to ruffle my feathers again, little boy. <---how does it feel? I'm happy to come back and devote ALL my time and attention to you.

"Matter of fact,,,,,,, your whole federation is composed of mostly under 20-year-olds" and "Then you go and hide in The Union. (*giggling over here!). They might not appreciate you referring to them as "frail" cuz they are under age 20!!! Tsk Tsk! :P" - Concerns me as I am in "The Union"... So I will "butt" in whenever it concerns me or my Federation and be as insulting as I so deem necessary, I respond in kind and if we are insulted I will insult back. Can you see Nico's insults above? I know turn a blind eye on them.

There's a saying people use here, don't bite your tongue Jan... I must inform you you were placed in Guinness World Records for being the most invasive person in threads not concerning yourself.

"Jannie I am really tired of you insulting my Federation" - Muzzle your dog, you seem to like Nico insulting us, but we can't seem to answer back, it doesn't work like that.

I really don't feel anything... Seemed as if you were talking to Nico or something. Seriously. I remind you that whatever breaks little Nico's heart doesn't have much effect on other people, were all different.

Don't leave the game, but leave us to our business and you stick to your own.

Monday, December 16, 2013 - 06:15 am You Just have to love the battle of words with jan the best we can ever hope to do is make our point she will always get the last word in i'll have to leave it at that and wate to see if the wicked woman can respond to the plain truth.

Monday, December 16, 2013 - 05:07 pm So much for equality, first woman clamored for equality, they got it and now they are pushing the male population down and raising them selves up. They gained equality for them selves and now they are taking it away from males.

Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 12:45 am I'm all for equal rights among the sexs, I have sexiest friends and I tell them to shut up if they say something sexiest to a woman. But men are struggling to keep the equal rights woman fought for. Men can't do anything in life without it having some repercussion while woman get off scott free. My mothers bf's ex wife attacked him with a knife and he pushed her away and she bent her finger, can anyone guess who got in trouble with the police?

Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 01:19 am Ian Jan was being silly by claiming the last word don't turn this into some debate about sex equality.... I can give you all sorts of statistics that show women are disadvantaged compared to men and that men are disadvantaged to women..... I don't think people will ever look at a woman and not to be able to tell the difference between her and a mans aswell as vice versa and it should probably stay that way.... luckily we have gotten rid of a lot of overt discrimination like non-suffrage but I think men are generally happy being men and vice versa which is good

Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 01:54 am Very interesting stallion, thanks for pointing out something that has been very evident since Wendy first set foot in these forums... More than a couple years ago...

Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 08:21 am No, the forums, not the thread Jan, I doubt you'd be talking about popping cherries and smacking people in 2009-2010 threads among other things (very funny btw hehe)

I consider this the best one... even some Spanish in it.

"I was under the impression that seasoned players don't do st00pid ish like hostile bid corps from other seasoned players.

I was almost under the impression that my inactivity caused some of them to fail. While partially this may be true, BC has been stealing my corps fom my enterprise.

You even fell back to a one country empire to cover your arse from consequences. Honestly I expected more from you. But in return you can expect a whole lot from me.

Expand and you burn. Anyone I see in your fed . . . BURNS. My empire is trashed and I been lookin for a good reason. Its hot as hell in Florida, and thats a good enough reason. But thank You, you have just realeased me.

Lookin forward to seeing you out of secured. Sleep on that if you want to slouch, I am not the C3 Wendy you expected. I'm kickin your fookin arse.

Asshats must DIE!!!!!

You have just been crowned the new CEO of Verizon. Nueva Vida is the board of Directors. Congrats on your promotion." - Wendy

Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 06:37 pm LoL..wendy was one top notch "B" in this game definitely didn't take no shit from nobody, no matter if they were vet or noob hehe all her comments & actions kept things xtra hot around here, sad she's chosen to move on & so has the other infamous lady^.. i will miss them both & would like to wish them much peace & happiness.

Thank you for your kind words too, Chief Sosa. I wish you peace, happiness and much success. I seriously pondered whether to stay, but I think the game is taking a new turn with newer players, and I'm of the old mindset. I think it is time to let the younguns shape this game and become the new game veterans!

I have loved playing this game over the years, despite the behaviors of some players who just carry things way too far in a game or for the sake of a game. I really dun fit into that game mindset and will always stand against it.

My sincerest hope is that all of you, despite the game, will have your fun wif game smack, but dun bring personal stuff into the mix or outrageous insults and the such. It isn't necessary.

I have entertained this over the years with Wendy and all her nasty game personas, her chat misbehavior, and personal insults, and frankly, that just is not who I am....even in a game. I find no fun in it or swapping insults with her. I did engage it, because I thought it important that SOMEONE stand up against her and her behavior.

But I will say this about Wendy. I always used to admire her for the things that you said Sosa. I wish Wendy would go back to the way she used to be. I still maintain she is and will always be an integral part of the game and a game legend, in her own right. I am sorry that things went so south between she and I, but we ARE females lol

I truly love you all and will miss the drama and the fun. I will pop in every now and then to say hello and throw a shoe.

Oh and I'll be checking in on my adopted son, Andrew, to make sure HE is behaving! :P

Wednesday, December 25, 2013 - 08:33 pm she probably expected people to have better things to do (like spend time with family or play with their new toys) than attack her and other players who were participating in Christmas and other festivities.

Wednesday, December 25, 2013 - 11:38 pm Christmas Day Massacre! Well y'all dun be too hard on Nico.......through the years wars have strategically been placed on holidays and times where the enemy might be vulnerable. Nature of the game. I mean how about war deccing in the middle of the night during a work week? Should all of you who have done that be criticized as well???? Pffffft

Good job, Nico.

So what is wrong wif playing a game on Christmas? ha ha ha ha Man up, you cry baby Union members!

Thursday, December 26, 2013 - 03:54 am When it crosses the line of what I find acceptable, you better believe it, Kiddo. Keep running your mouth......expect round 2 for your group. You just don't know when to say nothing, do you?

Thursday, December 26, 2013 - 05:17 am Yeah...it's sad cl108, but it's time to clean up so the eunuch's must go, BME deserves & has earned those former eunuch held areas.

& to johndoe i saw your comments about the war just to make things clear i dismantled & sold alot of stuff because as i told one of your guys i was so tired of BS i decided to just fall back an chill then war broke out so did my best.

So yeah i know stealth blah blah..i was just having a damn good time man.

Thursday, December 26, 2013 - 03:28 pm I am not running my mouth I am just stating a fact, I mean this whole incident is because I removed you from a meeting you weren't supposed to be in and even said you were about to leave.

Thursday, December 26, 2013 - 03:37 pm I am not running my mouth, just stating a fact. This whole stupid incident is because I removed Jan from a meeting she was not invited to, she than said she would leave and so I removed her. That has to be the worst excuse for a Casus belli in history.

People need to seriously grow up, Jan you are what 40 something and you are acting like my eight year old niece getting mad over me asking her to stop yelling. And Nico don't say "we're not the ones that need to grow up Ian" Because you are, I am mature unless I am in a bad mood and need to joke around so I don't hit someone or something. I don't start wars because I joined a meeting I WASN'T INVITED TO and got kicked.

I also know what running my mouth is and that I am not doing. Running your mouth is attempting to instigate and saying insanely bad things about people, that I am not doing, I AM pointing out facts about how pathetic this entire thing is.

Thursday, December 26, 2013 - 04:10 pm Ian, hun, I am so not even totally upset about that meeting. I dunno why you keep bringing it up. lol I can tell that you are totally clueless about what my issue is with you. Perhaps Wolfie and Tbone can refresh your memory of a convo and insults you threw my way in chat over Facebook, which had absolutely NO relevance to this game, eh? THAT, my dear is when you stepped over the line with me, and was MY deciding factor in leaving this game. I hold myself to being way better than that. I like to LOVE people and be happy and find no joy in tearing down people's self esteem over the sake of an online game.

But to ease your mind, Nico's war had nothing to do with that meeting whatsoever. It is the nature of this game......war and econ. I just lost two of my countries to Wendy, my arch enemy in the game, which she took off Bobo as he slept through the night. I'm not crying over that! It is the game! lol

I am perfectly mature. It is the lack of maturity of some players to what lengths of what they say in a game is what I speak against and have been for years. I just had words wif Tbone the other night about that very topic. I still love Tbone and most everyone in this game. ALL I have ever asked for is for everyone to have their fun, game smack away, but keep it game, fun and with no insults to mental stability, personal life issues and what not.

I have been called Whore, the C word, a loner, told that noone loves me in real life....told that my husband didn't want me, told that I have no friends in this game or anywhere. I've been told I'm "bat crap crazy" and apparently I am on medications for such, which I HAD NO IDEA I EVEN TOOK! But Wendy says so, so it must be so! ha ha ha I've been told that I am the "game" here and the laughing stock of every one of you. I even have found myself stooping to her very level and throwing similar insults HER way. I'm not like that, don't like being like that, even in a game, where it isn't supposed to be "real", although.......remember there are REAL people at the receiving end.

Frankly I'm tired of it. I don't wish to pay money to be the recipient of relentless "abuse" that has gone on for years and propogated by Wendy, and her game "circle" just cuz she can't handle another female in the game or played the game according to her ideas of how I should play my game.

The Christmas Day war was a war that we (BME) have talked about and planned for for many months. I told you that BME would come after The Union, you all just chose to view them as empty threats by me.

You do your federation no good, Ian. Learn to be a respectful player. You are really a delightful young man as I have seen that in YOU.

Thursday, December 26, 2013 - 07:33 pm Ugh. listen you tits. you wanna talk crap? Do something. like you used to tell me. I have beat 3 of your members, wolfker. The Union is going bye bye. Thank yourself. I have said enough. See yall in war!

Friday, December 27, 2013 - 01:19 am I never said anything to you on facebook, I explained the meeting situation and that was it. Our former conversations in the games chat we spoke about that and resolved it and it was a low point for me which I apologized for. Also, you are bat crap crazy lol, it can be good to some and bad to others, me I could care less as I know crazy people(not the medical way).

I am planning on leaving the Union and forming my own federation of peaceful and economic players where the only requirement is to not have a military that places you against other players. This way war wont happen and we can remain neutral in the International politics.

I am a very forgiving person, and I've even gotten over that episode of which I speak. I am not angry, nor bitter. I truly do have a big heart and love people. You were the reason I decided to leave, but it is more than that. I just don't fit in in this sort of game environment. I do tend to "mother" people, love people, care for people, which is why I get hurt so much,,,,,,but it has been worth it if I made a difference in only 1 person's life. I KNOW you are a good kid, and wish you didn't let anger rule you so much. Anger only tends to come back and make you miserable.

Anyways.......I want you young people to grow this game, Simcountry, and you become the new game vets!!! I am just too old for the drama, it takes waaaaaaaaaaay too much energy out of me. :-(

Oh and if I am "bat crap crazy", well I was perfectly normal until I played this game. That's it, I'm suing my adopted son, Andrew, for pain and anguish!!!! :P

Friday, December 27, 2013 - 09:42 pm I can read that The Union is no more though I really can't find where I said I was leaving no matter how hard I read... Sad. The Union better off, You better off, the world better off. We know the drill... lol

Aufwiedersehen in German means see you soon... Not Good Bye. I didn't lose the war because I didn't fight it.

Thursday, February 20, 2014 - 12:48 am Thank you for the reading material. I think we all forget this is a game. It's about having fun, we don't need to be keyboard bullies and you have to take with a grain of salt what is said. I wish Jen and others didn't leave. I've been playing for a long time and decided to start again. I hope at least I can bring some fun back to the game

Friday, February 21, 2014 - 07:49 am Spinal surgery is much more complex than simply hitting the correct nerve. As those nerve cells don't regenerate much, it is important to do all possible to preserve them.

Sunday, February 23, 2014 - 12:49 am Afalluco, I think the problem lies in people incapable of taking things with a grain of salt and take it as if this game was their life (Which I think is/was the case...)