The members of koptalk are paying to get information before anyone else, but they never do. Not in this case either. The only mention of the player before the news broke was from a member who mentioned Fulham wanted to sign him and another player more than two months ago. That was all. The imaginary koptalk insiders was nowhere to be seen. If you belive what Dunk says about who his sources are, you have to wonder why they knew nothing about this transfer. Why didn’t Informer pop up with his usual “money is being transfered” shite as he does when a player is looking nailed on to sign in a few days? Last year he was banging on with this for what must have been a month before we actually signed Adam. Every time it looked like it was about to happen he came out with that story. But not now. Not a word. Why is that? The simple answer is; “Dunk didn’t pick this up from the media”.

We don’t really want to inspire a glut of KopTalk-esque scam sites – one is more than enough – but we are very interested in showing you how unsophisticated the KopTalk con is. Pretty much anybody reading this could pull it off, if you had no qualms about telling cynical lies to Liverpool fans in order to dupe us out of our money.

First, you have to trawl through the BBC Football Gossip pages and the offal’s Media Watch section to compile a list of the players rumoured to be joining and leaving Liverpool since the last summer transfer window closed. These are the potential moves that have been reported in the national press and on mainstream internet sites:

Next you need to invent some ludicrously-named aliases. We’ve gone for Pilkington, Wallet and The Informer. Depending on how much cider you’ve drunk, you now have to either strongly imply or boldly state that these aliases are in fact high-profile figures associated with Liverpool FC. We’ve decided that Pilkington is Christian Purslow, The Informer is Tony Barrett and Wallet may or may not be Philip Nash.

We’ve no idea why these people would be passing on classified information to members of a football forum that doesn’t even feature in Alexa’s list of the top 40 LFC sites. It doesn’t make any sense at all, but we aren’t going to let that stop us.

The third step is to create your own “insider” phrasebook. Here are a few tips to get you up and running:

I’ve posted the original post from the KT member in comments under an earlier article, but now Duncan Oldham has spluttered a response of sorts so I suppose I should comment in more detail. (And just as I go to post this I notice “Chapeau de Soleil” has made an eerily accurate prediction about Dunk’s response too.)

I’m talking about the Independent LFC Fans’ Survey that appeared on fifteen Liverpool FC fan sites on Friday. See here: “Independent LFC Fans’ Survey (This is Anfield)” for one of the original announcements. All the sites involved posted the release at approximately the same time. It’s not designed to represent just one site or just one view. It’s designed to represent many views. Whichever extreme you come from, you’ll have a voice if you want it. The fifteen listed sites represent quite a broad spectrum of Liverpool fans – I suppose the only fans not represented are those who don’t buy fanzines or use the net.

Dunk clearly wasn’t asked, for obvious reasons. To those new to this blog, the obvious reasons are that every other Liverpool FC website is happy to co-exist with other LFC fansites. A person who’ll feel right at home on one site might feel out of place on another. But they are all LFC fan sites. They all cater to their own audiences. They all acknowledge each other. Those of us who visit more than one forum will be familiar with a post on “Forum A” talking about a post on “Forum B”. I’ve seen inter-forum rows, but usually it’s a couple of wind-up merchants having fun with the easily wound-up.

But every one of those sites has, I am sure, spoken of the cons carried out by Duncan Oldham and his family using the “Koptalk” name. Stealing from LFC fans, running hate campaigns against LFC players, lie after lie about their contacts at the club. Read the rest of this entry »

Duncan Oldham recently showed a scan of a share certificate in his name. He claimed to have “shares”, but didn’t say how many.

The recent takeover of Liverpool Football Club included a guarantee of match tickets for every bought-out shareholder. I’ve not checked the details, but Duncan Oldham was clearly entitled to at least one ticket as a former shareholder, maybe more if he had more than one share.

That is without including any entitlement earned by the season tickets in his name, that he sells on at a profit each season. He was (illegally) raffling tickets to various European fixtures this season too, so that is another way he may have qualified for a ticket. In other words, he was possibly in a position to buy numerous tickets, but let’s say he bought just one.

Dunk did not go to Athens. He’s still pretending to be there now, but there is far too much circumstantial evidence to say he isn’t there.

He spent last week in La Manga with Steve, taking videos from a major distance of the players training. It was impossible to make any of the players out. He had to pad this tiny amount of footage out by adding videos of him and Steve looking at the scenery in the Spanish resort, and making poor jokes about signs they passed.

He said he was then travelling to Athens directly from Spain. Yet not one piece of video from that camera has been seen. We got to see a 10-second mobile-phone camera clip of some Liverpool fans. But after forcing his flabby features on us for weeks on end on film all of a sudden he was nowhere to be seen. Have they lost their camera? They claimed they had two (one of Dunk’s recent videos was of him filming Steve coming home from shopping with members’ money and a second video camera.) They used members’ money to buy these cameras. To buy the flights. To pay for hotels. So why no video of the biggest event of the season, which they claimed to be at?

Because Oldham was at home in Wallsend, with the video cameras and the laptop, logging in as himself pretending to be in Athens, Katie in Athens or Steve in Athens.

I’m fairly convinced that Katie was in Athens, and we know that Steve was in Athens because he helped ITN to produce a report they knew was false.

But Dunk was back home, with the laptop. Either that or Steve has the laptop but doesn’t know how to work it.

Did Steve take any video footage? Well we’ll find out in the coming days – now that Steve’s home. Will it feature Dunk’s wonderful wit? No. Because Dunk didn’t go to Athens.

Why lie? Why not tell the truth? Chances are he was too frightened to go to Athens, given his notoriety on the net for ripping off Liverpool supporters and all the other anti-LFC stuff he does. He was happy to send Steve – Steve’s not quite so infamous, yet, plus cowardly Dunk isn’t exactly bothered about his little brother’s well-being. After all, he’s bullied him into staying in day and night for the past couple of years, keeping an eye on the site, unwaged, for 19 hours a day (Dunk’s claims). So Steve has no friends, no girlfriend, no contact at all with anyone of his own age, save Katrina, the 17-year-old forum chatline assistant. (The middle-aged conned-man Rich T still thinks he’s “in” with the teenager.) Dunk used to have an email address of “TheOrganGrinder”, clearly seeing Steve as his jug-eared peforming monkey. Steve getting beaten up is something Dunk would have enjoyed – a chance to whine about victimisation. It’s not right to beat Steve up, but there was a risk of it happening, and big bruv wasn’t even slightly bothered.

On Monday Steve was pictured in Athens with a ticket. Dunk was asked on his forums why Steve, who’d lied to ITN about his age, was pretending to need a ticket (for which he’d pay £600) when he already had one. “That’s mine,” claimed Dunk, from his bolthole. Well if was his, how was Steve instructed to use it?

We’ve not seen one photo of any of the Koptalk “family” inside the stadium. They were outside in a square according to Kat(ie)rina.

That picture was at Zappeion square (sp?) where we watched the game! I told you it was bad there but that is terrible!!

So if Steve was outside, Kat-lel was outside, and Oldham was in Wallsend, who used Dunk’s ticket?

On Monday Steve had it in his hands. On Tuesday he had £600 cash in his hands, pretending to ITV he was a Liverpool supporter, looking for a ticket. On Wednesday he was in the square outside the ground not watching the game.

That post above is actually from Thursday, and almost certainly posted by Katrina herself. She didn’t check with Dunk first to get their stories straight. The next one was posted on Wednesday, a couple of hours before the game. Please don’t laugh.

#174676 – Yesterday at 05:18 PM Just received a call!!!!
Katie Katie Administrator
KopTalk.com
Registered: 11/07/06
Posts: 4299
Loc: UK
The boys just had a phone call from mike jefferies who is having a meal in the champions league village with luis garcia and steve mcmanaman. We have all been invited down there to join them. This might be our last post now until after the game. Smoove is online keeping an eye on things.

Garcia!!! wooooo I want to meet him sooooooo much!!!
Wonder if he is drinking Sangria
I’ll get my coat 😦

I wonder if Katie’s ever heard the “I’ll get my coat” saying, from the Fast Show of probably ten years ago now. She’ll have been 7 ten years ago. She certainly didn’t write that little bit of nonsense.

Notice the “Smoove is online keeping an eye on things” statement? Dunk’s put that there in case any nasty blog supporters wanted to post hints to other members about the blog.

“The boys got a phone call” – it’s a minor slip-up but surely she either means “Dunk got a call” or “Steve got a call” – or do they share a phone? Of course Dunk wasn’t even there. And Mike Jefferies didn’t invite them for that meal of course. And hadn’t Dunk already made all of this up the night before?

Oh yes – on the 22nd, in reaction to us pointing out even then that he wasn’t in Athens…

Dunk’s too thick to remember the details of his lies and we’re still waiting for this video podcast. Or even a photo. The meeting was arranged on the 22nd, “tonight and tomorrow”, now there’s a phone call being made on the 23rd to invite them. Small details, but enough to show Dunk up as a liar.

Back on the 22nd, and 15 minutes after posting using Katie’s userid Dunk’s back again about it…

#174681 – Yesterday at 05:26 PM Re: Just received a call!!!! [Re: Liap]
Katie Katie Administrator
KopTalk.com
Registered: 11/07/06
Posts: 4299
Loc: UK
Jefferies just rang back and handed Garcia the phone! Steve asked if he was drinking Sangria and he said not yet lol answers my question I suppose!

What a load of bollocks. To be frank.

On Thursday Katie was logged on as herself again. She said this, just 20 minutes before she let it slip they were watching the game from the square. WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT TICKET?

#176025 – Today at 01:11 PM Re: Just received a call!!!! [Re: Charlie]
Katie Katie Administrator
KopTalk.com
Registered: 11/07/06
Posts: 4299
Loc: UK
Had a great night! Shame about the result thought! Oh well bring on Moscow 😀

That was clearly Katie coming in from Athens, logging on, and getting some of her views on her experience off her chest. A few hours earlier though and her userid was saying this (about the fighting in the square where her and Steve had been for the night).

#175641 – Today at 08:58 AM Official fan zone!
Katie Katie Administrator
KopTalk.com
Registered: 11/07/06
Posts: 4299
Loc: UK
I’m sorry to say but no matter what score the game ended on there is a line that you cross when giving all to the AC Milan fans and some of those reds crossed it last night!

On both times AC Milan scored a good 100-200 reds started throwing stuff at the Milan fans. This included cans (empty and full), glass bottles, chairs, I even saw a pack of 24 cans fly over and the worst one was the red flares that they decided to set off and throw right into the middle of the fans! When Kuyt scored a few cans got thrown back at the reds and that was it!

Now one thing that those who were throwing stuff forgot was that there were some reds in the middle of the Milan fans! I saw 3 lasses run out in tears because they had been hit with something! I was ashamed to be in with them and I hope that when they wake up and remember what they did they feel just as ashamed, if not more.

No matter what the score was that should not have happened. End of story!

What was it like where you watched the game from?

Silly Dunk. You logged on as Katie at 9am and then didn’t brief her on what to say when she arrived home herself much later.

#176111 – Today at 02:00 PM Re: Official fan zone! [Re: GetColin]
Katie Katie Administrator
KopTalk.com
Registered: 11/07/06
Posts: 4299
Loc: UK
This is a picture Dunk posted earlier and this was taken in the square that we watched the game in!

I am thankful I left when I did

But where was Dunk Katie? Why were there no pictures of Dunk in Athens?

Because Duncan Oldham touted his ticket to the highest bidder. What is funny, really funny, is that he’s probably told Steve to get as much as he can for the ticket. And then he thinks that Steve told him the truth about how much he got! You see Dunk’s been teaching Steve how to lie (badly) for years. Dunk hasn’t a clue how much Steve got for the ticket. Steve says, “I got £750,” and Dunk doesn’t know if he really got a grand. He’s not got a clue.

Duncan Oldham is a ticket tout. His FA Cup final tickets last season at £1600, and other examples, including his season tickets. He’s not going to last much longer as one though. A lot of people who tout their tickets will be getting worried in the aftermath of what happened with tickets from start to finish. And Dunk will hopefully be the first one caught.

Are you angry? People who went to matches all season, not just glamour ties, missed out on tickets. Duncan Oldham flogs his season ticket each year but still got a ticket. Which he sold on at a profit if his track record is anything to go on.

To help you calm down, here’s a piece of fantasy from the idiot. He’s still pretending to have contacts at Anfield. We know he hasn’t. He’s not got any friends at the club at all. Here’s his damning verdict on what our new owners think of our chief executive. It may be true, it may not – but let’s hope Dunk’s got a good lawyer after making these claims…

Originally Posted By: Dave100 Dunk, quick question. It is obvious that the new owners value Rafa and his opinion/business acumen/ability as a manager. If Rafa said he really wanted a player and Hicks/Gillette said “right Rick, off you go and get him.” What would happen if Parry failed to land the player? Do you think that our owners would send someone else in on their behalf to close the deal? Not only could this be an important close season for our team; it could be very important for Parry to ‘prove his metal.’

Dunk, do you think they’d step in if he struggles? I do.

They don’t rate Parry. Truth be told they think the place has been run by a muppet. They’ll never admit that but I’ve received enough DIRECT feedback, not 3rd party feedback, to suggest he’ll be history after the honeymoon period has past. Now he could be retained to save paying him off but look out for key appointments under possible different titles.

GG and TH have no experience of the football so they can’t just replace him with a man who has no experience either. I know that a MASSIVE proven CEO is in the running as I have acted a go between putting him and GG and TH in touch. Whether anything comes of it I have no idea.

The last four words of that little piece of bullshit say it all. He has no idea.

“He’ll be history” and “He could be retained” in consecutive sentences. That little load of nonsense made me laugh. Not sure how the two Americans will feel about the accusations they think Parry is a muppet.

And the extra laughter for me came from the image of George and Tom clamouring to tell Oldham the gossip, about how they’re not keen on Rick.

I started writing this last night, added a bit more this morning, then got distracted before I could post it. And since then we’ve had Rupert’s excellent post where he talks about Oldham’s paranoia. He covers much of what this article has in it. I was going to bin it but thought, what the hell…

So read this as a post that’s a couple of posts out of date. It’s a response to two of Dunk’s many rants of late. He’s fighting like crazy (did I say “like” crazy?) to keep his site going, but it’s dropping like a turd does. Well that’s what it is. You can read on in more detail in a moment, but to summarise what I’ll be saying…

1) I am not a teenager. I haven’t been for the best part of two decades. Or the worst part, depending on how you look at it.
2) I’ve not attacked anybody’s family.
3) I’ve not got a BMX.
4) I’ve not asked for money for the writing of this blog.
5) I’ve not asked for money to stop writing this blog.
6) I’ve reported what Duncan Oldham has either written or said. Duncan Oldham contradicting himself on two different days, proving him to be a liar. It’s not difficult, he does most of the work for us (he’s not very bright). I don’t “allege” that he tells lies – I show the proof of it.
7) I ask questions. The Lauren situation has always been about asking questions. If Oldham answers them, we can stop asking them. If he paid her all the money he can prove it. If he didn’t, well he’s got plenty of assets he can sell to raise the funds. Such as the MERCEDES CLK 200K (03 ON) CAB AVANT AUTO 1796cc 2DR he upgraded to just after he’d been touting tickets “for Lauren”.
8) I was never banned from Koptalk.
9) I don’t “use the 96” to score brownie points. The boycott of The S*n is an important issue and very simple to observe. Exploiting your child (despite threats of rape you claim were made against her) then sticking “Justice for the 96” on the end of the video is what I would call using the 96. As was copying the BBC’s coverage of the Truth protest and sticking your site’s name all over it.
10) I’m not jealous, I’ve nothing to be jealous of. Spending my days with two 17 year olds isn’t my idea of fun, especially not the dopey pair in the Koptalk shed. Nor is chasing overweight executives of football clubs like Newcastle. Ten years of making “pie jokes” would be wearing a bit thin now, even if I wasn’t. I don’t like being the centre of attention either.
11) This blog isn’t just a couple of people. It’s possible becuase of the support we get from those who send us emails, or leave comments, or spread the word on other site.s The blog is big. Bigger than Oldham’s belly. And that’s big.

Anyway, what had I written? It’s long, as always, although most of it is Oldham’s rantings….

Half an hour browsing around Koptalk yesterday afternoon gave me such a laugh. This was before I saw Dunk post his letter from the Irish businessman. As you probably know, unless you’re a new reader, this blog was set up to poke fun at a morbidly obese liar who took money from unsuspecting Reds in return for stories he made up about goings on at Anfield.

In no time at all it soon became clear that Oldham had no inside information whatsoever, he had not one single contact at the club. But it also became clear that Oldham’s “sins” were much more serious than pretending he had regular tea and cake with Rick Parry.

We also found his love of The S*n stretched further than him wearing a hat advertising the hated rag in France during the 1998 World Cup.

All of this is on the blog, accessible either by using the search button or using the quick links at the top of the page.

My half-hour had started off like days of old. Dunk lies to his members, telling them (or hinting) that he knows what’s happening inside the club. But he makes it all up as he goes along, and forgets most of it. In the old days this wasn’t much of a problem – if anyone questioned him about one of his old “exclusives” he’d just delete the question. Or on a generous day he’d give a quick fob-off for an answer, deleting the thread soon after, before too many got suspicious. And there’d be little evidence of his “exclusive” from those prior months. He’d make sure the posts didn’t stick around too long.

Yesterday one of his members remembered what Dunk had promised him. At the moment it’s impossible to tell who is a trusting member of Koptalk and who is a member fully-versed in Dunk’s scams and asking questions in mock innocence. I’ve no idea which of those “Dave100” counts as, or if he’s one those members who have started to wonder what the hell is going on inside the site they pay £30 for. Dunk had promised more information would be forthcoming in the second week of May about West Ham’s Tevez. But Dunk forgot, because Dunk’s a rather thick bungling idiot.

Cheers
– – – – – – – – – – – – – – –(Cut to Wallsend and Steve has to use the wrong end of the broom handle to wake the gross liar from his slumbers. Removing his ear-plugs now that fatty has finally ceased snoring, the young apprentice points at the computer screen. Dunk has to think fast. And for someone who has trouble thinking, that’s a big ask…)

#161039 – Today at 12:01 PM
Re: Dunk, 2nd Week in May [Re: Dave100]
Dunk Dunk Administrator
KopTalk.com
Registered: 20/08/04
Posts: 18773
My thoughts were that we’d hear something around the 15th which a key date for us. However with us now reaching the final this changes things (in my opinion) so we may have to wait until after the final for these things to be addressed by the management.
– – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –(Even by your standards that’s poor Dunk. First of all, the 15th is actually in the third week of May, not the second, but the rest of it is absolute shite. We know you make things up, and this proves it. So Liverpool are going to turn round to the clubs of potential targets and say, “Oh, would you mind awfully if we didn’t talk about signings until after Athens? Could you tell other interested clubs to hang back as well? What’s that? Yes, I know we were discussing it right in the middle of the season, but this one extra match, big as it is, means we’ve got to stop chatting about transfers.” I’ve heard Rick Parry getting some stick today, and in the absence of answers to some of the questions asked it might turn out to be justified, but even Mr Parry’s not that inept. Poor show Dunk, poor show. “Dave100” pretends (I assume) to agree…)
#161044 – Today at 12:03 PM
Re: Dunk, 2nd Week in May [Re: Dunk]
Dave100 Dave100
KopTalk Member
Registered: 23/10/03
Posts: 5999
Loc: Wigan
Ok, thanks

I thought as much. Don’t want to unsettle the squad before the CL final i guess.

Registered: 18/10/04
Posts: 3290
Loc: carrickmacross
im due to fly out on sunday morning from ireland to go see liverpool play charlton on sunday. but i cant find my passport. i have searched high and low in the house and cant find it anywhere. had it for sure in march when we went to rome. any tips?????

I don’t want to comment much further than to say that this person has been mentioned on the blog before. He’s a victim who knows he’s a victim of Dunk’s scams. Think “ticket tout” and “FA Cup Final” and “£1600” plus “For Lauren”. And yet he goes back for more. I think anyone asking a forum for help on where he might have put his passport is probably beyond help, and proof of why Dunk’s found it so easy to rip so many people off…

Then I found this. What was Dunk doing, offering CL tickets for £1? Or to be more accurate, my thought process was more along the lines of, “What does the fat liar really mean by this?” It soon became clear…

Registered: 20/08/04
Posts: 18773
Coming up later today… your chance to win Champions League final tickets in the Liverpool section!
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Registered: 11/07/06
Posts: 4026
Loc: UK
Are you serious? Why have I not been told about this? Can I not buy it if I pay £2??? 😉
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(A couple of other comments appeared before in walked fat boy once again. It later turned out that this comment was about the Irish businessman he thinks was winding him up…)
#161032 – Today at 11:58 AM
Re: Champions League Final tickets for £1? [Re: Katie]
Dunk Dunk Administrator
KopTalk.com

We did receive a lovely email yesterday from a member of our ‘fan club’ pretending to be a businessman after flights and tickets… you can take the member out of KopTalk but you can’t take KopTalk out of the member
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I’ve just read that last comment again and can’t quite work out what Dunk meant. He’s saying that one of those many people that can’t stand him or his scams had emailed him pretending to be someone else. Using an alias perhaps? Claiming things that weren’t true, maybe? So why is Dunk saying “you can take the member out of KopTalk but you can’t take KopTalk out of the member”? I read that this way: If you become a Koptalk member, you learn about telling mistruths, or lies, and even when you leave, you’ll still be telling lies and so on. Is that what he meant? Is he admitting that Koptalk is run on a bed of lies? Or did he mean something else, but his thickness tripped him up? Who knows? Dunk doesn’t.

Shortly afterwards he posted the email from the businessman. Probably a bit of a backfire to do so, but Dunk rarely gets anything right.

Then again, he’s not the only one. Here’s another exciting post from the £30 members’ only website that nobody wants to join…

#161168 – Today at 01:10 PM
FLMAO
Dunk Dunk Administrator
KopTalk.com

Registered: 20/08/04
Posts: 18773
Just heard this from the next room to me…

“**** me! It’s printing 1173 pages, how do I stop it?!”

KopTalk… no. 1 for getting things right

So, after composing myself again at such a mirth-bringing post I started to wonder what the 1173 pages might have been from. Stolen credit card details from those trying to book flights through his scammy offer? Personal details taken illegally last summer by the anti-Red site from members who would not be allowed to use the product they’d paid for until they’d complied with these new rules (including the “post once a month or you’re out” rule)? Or was it the affiliate terms and conditions for the Virgin Games website fatty was using for his offer of tickets for £1? You see generous fatty was actually asking his members to sign up to Virgin Games’ Poker website, depositing whatever minimum they require. As part of this, Virgin Games have a game where you can win CL tickets. So you download the software (after clicking on the link that includes Fatty’s affiliate code) and fatty pockets a load of commission.

With any other site we’d not have a problem. But this is fatty, and he tries to sell this whole idea as if he’s got the tickets to start with, then gradually admits he hasn’t. But he never admits that he’ll get commission for everyone who signs up and deposits money. Or that it’s likely to cost each member much more than £1 to be able to enter the competition, after they’ve made minimum deposits.

But I don’t think he actually read the Terms and Conditions of the agreement he has with Virgin Games.

You should not apply to our Affiliate Program if you do not agree with the following terms and conditions. If you have any queries about the content of this Agreement, please email us at affiliates@virgingames.com.

7.3. We may reject your application if we determine in our sole discretion that your website is not suitable for the our Affiliate Program for any reason, including but not limited to: inclusion of content on your website that we consider is in any way unlawful, harmful, threatening, defamatory, obscene, harassing, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable. By way of example only, this may include:

1. your website is designed to appeal to minors;2. your website infringes or appears to infringe any intellectual property rights;
3. your website does not match the website design, architecture, content or target standards we require of our revenue share Affiliates. Such standards exclude, for example: confusing navigation, heavy loading, design inconsistencies, lack of/scarce use of written/editorial content, low traffic ratings or non gaming targeted traffic (we may advise you to apply to our CPA network partner instead);
4. your website is under construction;
5. your website is hosted in a jurisdiction where online gaming advertising is prohibited by law; or
6. you are already a registered Affiliate on our Affiliate Program.

In other words, Duncan Oldham should not have applied to this affiliate programme. So if you’ve time, please email the address above and warn Mr Branson’s lot that they’ve a fat copyright stealing liar promoting their product in a fairly misleading way, on his porn-ridden site full of threats towards anyone who disagrees with him. You get the idea. The more people who get in touch with them the quicker they’ll deal with him.

Richard Branson doing business with the charity thief that is Duncan Oldham? I somehow don’t think he’d like that.

I’ve been asked to help with loads of football club websites in the past including Newcastle. Sadly when I told people this a few members of my ‘fan club’ on other sites tried to make a big deal out of this. I’ve tested the water and have an interest in a few live projects but it’s a big secret so don’t tell anyone

I’d love to see Ged back though but not at Newcastle as he deserves better.
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So the story changes again. Dunk alternates constantly between admitting he had set up a Newcastle website and a Spurs website, and saying he only offered advice after “being approached for help”. He sometimes claims he had a site planned for, of all teams, Nottingham Forest! The truth is that he set up site for Spurs, and a site for Newcastle. Neither got many hits, and one of them was based on software he hadn’t paid for. He closed both down a year ago.

It was some time later that he applied for a licence from the Premier League to use photographs of Premier League football games on his site. He lied on his application. If you’ve time, can you ring the Premier League and tell them he doesn’t have numerous sites covering numerous football clubs? He only has the LFC site, and that means he should have got permission from LFC, not the Premier League. It’s LFC’s decision how much he should pay for the licence, not the Premier League’s, if his site only features LFC! He lied to the Premier League to get his licence.

Give them a call, tell them the truth, and mention to them that he also thinks the licence includes the actual fees for the use of each photo too. It doesn’t, and he uses those photos without paying for them. Copyright theft.

Shortly afterwards I noticed he had changed the page talking about the flights to Athens. This was a little after I’d had an email from Trading Standards saying they were looking into this offer. Perhaps he’d been warned about the credit card stuff.

Looks like one member doesn’t want to pay £30 for a complete pile of crap…

Registered: 12/05/04
Posts: 762
Just catching up on my email since my long holiday and have noticed i’m about 2 days away from my subscription ending. I am having second thoughts as whether to renew only because I am a little concerned at the value for money aspect. £30 is a alot of money (especially to a newly graduated unemployed lazy cnut like me).

Any new plans for this summer or up-coming seasons? I do like the fact that there’s loads of videos on here and I can easily catch up with stuff if I’m out the country etc.

Are other members having second thoughts whether to renew? No hidden agendas here Dunk, been around for a while here now just thought i’d weigh up my options if thats cool. If i am going i’ll just take an opportunity to thank everyone at Koptalk plus the excellent contributors for making this a top site
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Re: Yo Dunk..(possible goodbye to everyone) [Re: Vish]
Dunk Dunk Administrator
KopTalk.com
Registered: 20/08/04
Posts: 18806 If you’re genuinely unemployed and a bit skint then we can help you. The site isn’t about squeezing money out of our members, it’s about ticking over.(My arse!) For less than 9p-a-day I know it’s worth it because of the amount of time we put in but I guess i’m going to say that 🙂 (And we’re off again, starry-eyed Dunk actually believing people still fall for this crap)

There are plenty of other LFC sites on the web that are supported by donations or advertising, or they have a team (group of friends) that chip in to pay the bills. Sadly I’m on my own with the help of family and friends and I’ve chosen to have an optional membership and the site was free to all from 1998/99 until we switched to subs.(Was this during the dot com boom that made you those millions you turned down, or whatever it is you normally drone on about?)

Contrary to popular belief, that means we take less revenue than when we were open to all.(Are you still unwaged, or have you stopped claiming that now? It’s hard to say you’re unwaged when you spend so much on cars and gadgets, without drawing attention to the lack of proof Lauren ever got the money you’d collected for her.) If it was about money I would make the site open to all and rake it in on the ad revenue.(You normally claim there is no money in net ads any more. Like the S*n ones you ran, but not just those. So why’s that story changed again?) The reason I prefer it this way is that it helps keep out rival fans and other idiots. (You mean it makes it harder for anyone to spread the word about you. You prefer to keep them in your little concentration camp instead, where they can’t speak to each other without being watched!) Since we’ve gone members only we’re also online every minute of every day overseeing things.(He means he has NY drop-out Smoove logged on overnight, and 17-year-old UK college drop-out Katrina on during the day, with him and his dopey step-bro doing the rest of the shifts. Why? Because they need to swoop on suicide posts as quickly as possible, they can’t afford many more people to see the anger they’ve caused.)

Since going members only we have stepped up to the best hosting available in the country (but at a price). (Yes – we checked. After reading your claims of £600 per month I actually found out the true price. £97 per month. That’s over £500 less than you claimed. Mr Bullshit. £97 isn’t too bad, for a managed service aimed at those who don’t know what they’re doing.) It’s an invisible feature I guess because you guys won’t think about that kind of stuff. I like the security of a 5 minute response time when the site goes down and regular updates rather than waiting hours and hours for a support request to be answered, never mind dealt with, when the site is down.(As long as you put the support request in though Dunk – when you were away on your “jolly” to Barca with your members money, your site was down for a good few hours. Nobody told UKFast it was down. You’ve only got the most basic service they do. £97).

We’ve registered with the Premier League since going members only have and stumped up our licence fees and spent thousands of pounds getting you guys the best match photos without having to lift them for you.(See above – again, try and give the Premier League a call. Tell them Dunk’s licence was obtained by deception. And ask them if Dunk’s actually been paying the agencies for each photo.)

Maybe these things mean little but the point I’m trying to make I guess is that we don’t pocket revenue. (Ah – off we go again)We invest every single penny back into the site.(So how do you pay for food then fatty? You eat a lot of it. And your car? Don’t pretend it’s property, we know it’s not. How do you live? Benefits? You contradict yourself too much.) It would be easy to save on hosting, we could ditch the photos and open up the forums to non members but I like the way things are now. It generally attracts more sensible people.(Like wezo23?)

We’ve also given away loads of match tickets and have made many Reds happy as a result. Maybe we need to fix a comp so you win (You can’t get match tickets you said earlier? Another contradiction. You started to give them away as soon as you realised we were watching. And you do fix the competitions. Don’t you?)

(He’s still not finished…)I see it more of people supporting us if they like what we do rather than buying into something for the sake of it. Because at the end of the day I like to think of it as a family and I think that’s why thousands of members renew every year. But we can’t meet the needs of everyone.(THOUSANDS! I think not. In fact I know not. But “thousands” means at least two thousand, which would be sixty grand in membership fees. Where does it all go? Is it declared? Well for starters I would be surprised if he’d even had 100 new members in the last 12 months. And whatever he does get in doesn’t get declared anywhere. It’s all hidden away in PayPal accounts. (For now).)

At the end of the day we’re just ordinary fans, we’re not a big player, we don’t have the resources of the big boys but we give 110% and if that’s not good enough or if that doesn’t warrant support, there’s not much more we can do 🙂 (Oh dear, dear me. Violin please.)

I’ve just paid for a site upgrade here which should happen soon. I also hope to have some new skins developed for people at work so the forums don’t stand out too much for them and fit in more with their work environment! (Paid for it? I should hope so, because you didn’t pay for it when you used it on your porn site. And you’ve also been looking at changing to the Exponent content management system, which is free open-source software. So don’t be trying to claim you paid for that if you do ever work out how to install it.)

We pay for a chat room, the podcast, the radio service, the SMS alerts (which cost us thousands of pounds every month or so), the match photos, the licences, the best hosting (bnest business host 3 years running I believe), 24/7 moderation, the best prizes… I don’t really know what else I could give. (He’s not mentioned the SMS alerts for a while. Those alerts that people get for a very short time before they all dry up. The ones that keep being reduced all the time. And if you’re now saying you pay for the moderation does that mean that you are all now getting a wage? Contradictions again.)

If people go on holiday they can let us know and we’ll call them at the hotel to let them know what’s happening at LFC or we can text them or fax them. If someone’s stuck on the tube and they need to know what’s happening at Anfield they can text Steve to ask and he’ll text back. If someone can’t get an LFC kit we’ll go to the club shop and buy what they want and send to them wherever they are in the world at cost, no profit…. it’s the small things that cost nothing that are probably welcomed the most. Oh yeh and our transfer deadline day updates are priceless (Has anyone ever had regular personalised updates on holiday? Can you get text messages out from the tube, considering it’s underground? Kits at cost? Do you add petrol money onto those costs for the journey from your Wallsend bunker to the club shop four hours’ drive away? And how about those special shirts you supply – you know the ones that you and Steve write on with black marker and claim Reds players signed them? How come you charge an extra 200 quid for those? Cost only? Bullshit.)

I hope you choose to stay but if you don’t, I wish you well(If he pays, great, if not – get stuffed. As many other members of “the family” found.)

And if you do go, and you don’t need to earn your “I’ve been banned by KopTalk badge” to parade on other sites after acting like a 2-year-old, I’ll even let you have one of my finest steak pies 😉 (That pie joke’s wearing thin as fast as you’re growing fat. And I thought you didn’t ban anyone anyway)

So half an hour in the afternoon, perhaps 15 minutes in the evening, and Dunk made that many mistakes. Dunk drew attention to the fact that there are sites outside the commune. Sites that attack him. And some members will now be using Google to find those sites. And more members will leave as they learn the truth about the Newcastle-season-ticket holder who has spent the last eight years conning Liverpool fans.

I had a couple of visits to Koptalk yesterday, and there was so much to laugh at.

Far too much for one post on here.

So I’m going to concentrate on one aspect.

Has Dunk started a new policy on openness? I doubt it. But he has decided to print an email from someone trying to get tickets off him. He’s even included the name of the emailer – I wonder if he asked for permission? We aren’t talking about him using someone’s net nickname, we’re talking about him using a real name. Dunk revealed the name of this person and if it isn’t a wind-up (as Dunk assumes) then he’s committed a serious breach of confidence. Hardly the act of an organisation you can trusted.

DunkAdministrator
(KopTalk.com)
09/05/07 12:47 PM

Pulling my chain again – lol

These are the sort of emails we get every day. They originate from a small group of former (banned) members who are obsessed with KopTalk, myself and Steve. To you it will look like a genuine enquiry… I may be fat but I aint stupid. (Actually you’re both Duncan – morbidly obese and one of these days you’ll probably do something morbidly stupid. You’ll end up in the Darwin awards. And notice how he contradicts his own claims that nobody gets banned from Koptalk? Not stupid?)

This is a nice email. Usually we get nasty emails or emails saying they’re going to do this and do that etc. I just thought I’d share this one with you. (I’ve seen emails from Dunk, sent to others, with threats to rip my face off. Whether Dunk does get emails from people angry that he’s stolen their money and tried to mess up his club is debatable, but not to be unexpected. But Dunk and his sheep Steve are quite capable of sending out nasty and threatening emails – and also capable of ringing people up at work to threaten them).

Some of you frequent the same sites as some of our former members and have asked for their usernames to be changed here for a quiet life. If that applies to you we can change your username and create you a new account and nobody will know who you are other than ourselves. (Mr X did that. Most people know who he “was” on Koptalk, who he “is” on other sites. Most sane people who’ve learned about Dunk, and realised why there are so few members left, don’t need to change usernames to stay on Koptalk. They walk away, leave a nice “suicide post”, donate their usernames to us or just ask for a partial refund. Some people enjoy the like-minded company they get from the madness that is Dunk, others perhaps just can’t shake off that “cult” thing.)

It’s really sad, I guess it’s jealousy or the fact that they couldn’t have their own way within our community. (He likes to use the word “community” because it portrays his site as a nice happy place to be. But you can’t communicate with your fellow members except within the strict rules of his archaic “AUP” (Acceptable Use Policy). You can’t send a Personal Message, the only forum I know of where this isn’t allowed. You can’t choose to show an email address in your profile for others to use to get in touch with you. You can’t even look at each other’s profiles! You can’t search posts older than ONE DAY! Community? It’s probably got less freedoms than prison, and Dunk certainly treats his members worse than you would treat schoolchildren.)

Remember, never give out your personal details on any forums including your email address and do not use the same login details here as you do elsewhere.(Someone did leave their email address on the forum earlier this week and I dropped them a line. I know they got the email, I hope they’ve taken time to read the blog with an open mind so they could decide what to do about their membership.)

For the record KopTalk has no issues with other LFC websites, it’s just the people who want to class themselves as rivals or people who have been kicked out of here that tend to have issues. It’s very petty stuff but there is a serious side to it. It’s a shame as we’re all Reds at the end of the day.(Dunk doesn’t have issues with other websites? Check out the “cybersquatting” part of this site and see the long list of Liverpool FC websites Dunk has stolen domains from. And on each of these he put up a holding page saying “You’ve been pied”. Why? Because those sites have numerous members who’ve been past victims of Koptalk, and those sites felt it was right to support this blog. All those other sites get on fine with each other, there’s even a mailing list so that major communications between sites can be sent around, such as the forthcoming HJC Cup. Dunk’s not on that mailing list. Dunk even told a site owner some time ago that there’s “only room for one LFC website”. Not got issues? He hates these other sites, that all bring their own qualities to the web, that all do their own thing without ripping off their fellow fan. And I’ll say this again – I’ve not been kicked out of here, and I don’t think many of the other site’s owners have either.)

If you ever receive an email claiming to be from us, check with us first by going to http://www.koptalk.info – never click on links in any spoof emails as they could contain malicious code to obtain passwords or even download viruses or spyware to your computers. Maybe not but it’s better to be safe than sorry. (Whatever you don’t click any links that Dunk supplies on Koptalk. Two weeks ago he was telling his members to click on a link that would have installed Spyware for them. And some members reckoned it would have earned money for Dunk too. Spyware can lead to identity fraud, which is something that has been mentioned in the same sentence as “Dunk” more than once before now. Dunk also signed into his forums pretending to be a member who’d left, not that long ago. He had a form as part of his sign-up process that used to ask you for your passwords. When he offered the “free” email addresses to members in the past, he didn’t tell his members that he got full access to look at their emails as part of the deal. Perhaps that’s why “RichT” sticks around – maybe Dunk’s been reading his mail and knows how to make sure Rich keeps quiet!)

If you receive unsolicited emails from anyone asking you about your membership here or trying to obtain your personal information, simply report this to the police. Several of our members have done this. It’s all about common sense at the end of the day when you use the internet.(I’d be interested in hearing about this too Dunk. Anyone reading this who has been asked for personal information, presumably by email, could you forward the full email to me? Including the full headers? That way we can see who really sent it. We’ve a list of some of Dunk’s IP addresses and so we’d soon be able to work out if it was actually just him sending it. Dunk’s a bit thick you see.)

KopTalk cannot get hold of tickets for any games. Anyone who claims such is telling porkies, but the people behind the emails below already know this.(So how come you sold last season’s FA Cup final tickets to the Irish member for £1600? Don’t deny it. And semi-final tickets. And who knows what other tickets? And if you “cannot get hold of tickets for any games” how the hell do you “give away” tickets? We know you’ve got two season tickets that you don’t use yourself – and we know you’d not give those away. We even know that one of them is in the name of your estranged wife. And which seats they are. And we know that you get tickets for cup games, because you send Steve with the “winner”. Either that’s because the “winner” is one of your many family members (“staff”) or because you’re worried that the winner would report the ticket numbers to the club. Because you’ve not got permission to give those tickets away. If you were legit then you’d have no problems asking the club to give you permission to give away tickets. I really don’t think they’d mind any other LFC site doing it. But they know about you, and you know you can’t speak to them. So – you can get hold of tickets, you have sold them at inflated prices, and well – who’s telling porkies, Porky?).

You will see various tickets offered on this site by us during the season but as you know, such tickets are always given away for free. If we’re given a spare we’ll happily make someone’s dream come true and take them with us. When this happens we try and look after them as they are after all our guest. If a member is selling tickets because they can’t go to a match we try to help them by buying tickets from them that they have advertised. We then give those tickets away on the site to you guys. This means the seller also sees this take place. Again, we help the seller and we also help you guys by offering you the chance to go to Anfield or wherever.(Those tickets started to be given away for free as soon as we started watching you. Prior to that you sold all the tickets. “For Lauren”. Who never got the money. And none of those tickets went to anyone you’d not vetted first. You even pulled one comp when you got an email telling you we knew who’d won! All of a sudden there was a “problem” with the tickets.)

There has been a campaign run against myself since last summer. (SPRING!) Previously there’s always been a couple of people mouthing off because when you run busy forums for nearly ten years and you ban the odd person here and there, you don’t make friends fast.(You did it again – you said you ban people. But you always say you don’t! Stupid.)

But from the summer of 2006 there’s been a real campaign against me both online and offline. We know these people have access here but as they’re paying members we think that’s quite funny so we don’t mind.(It’s probably the best use of anyone’s paid memberships since you start offering them. We’ve got access through ids donated to us by others, all of which won’t be getting renewed.) It won’t take long for this post for example to appear elsewhere. Again, that doesn’t bother me because I appreciate the extra publicity that they provide us with. They can continue with the hoax emails and the nasty emails but I aint going anywhere.(You say you love this extra publicity, but, well, I don’t think you do. More later.)

As long as we have supportive members here, that’s all that matters. Thousands renew every year because they love what we do. Some don’t because maybe we don’t satisfy their needs or they feel better elsewhere – that’s not a problem.(Thousands? Not any more. But if that’s what you want to claim then don’t forget to declare the thirty grand for every thousand members. You did declare it didn’t you? )

If you’re a member that feels the site isn’t their cup of tea you can email me anytime at dunk2007@koptalk.com and I’ll listen to your suggestions and I’ll try and put right what you think may be wrong. Thankfully 99.9% of every email I receive is always very, very positive.(Dunk’s fave “99.9%” figure again. What he’s saying is that one in every thousand emails he gets is not “very, very positive”. And he gets some of these every day. So he’s trying to have us believe he gets one thousand positive emails every single day. How would he know what their content was? If he gets a thousand (non spam) emails a day he’s not got time to read them. Silly Dunk.)

Anyway, read on… would you waste your time trying this kind of stuff on every day? It may look genuine to you but I can assure you 100% it isn’t(If you are someone “trying this kind of stuff on every day” can you let me know? I don’t actually believe anybody is, but you never know.)
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Hi,

It looks like I was given the wrong email address. I was told support@koptalk.com but now I’ve been told athens@koptalk.com. My mate said I should also try steve2007@koptalk.com so I’ve added that.

Please read my email below.

I’m ok for hotel now by the looks of it, but I do need flights. I’ve got to have four now, my brother-in-law is definitley coming now.

Do you need my card details?

Also, if you can get me any match tickets please let me know. I can probably use a tout or whatever when we get there but I’d rather have the peice of mind that I’ve already got some in my pocket before we set off.

A friend of mine is a member of your site, he did tell me his login name but I’ve forgotten what he said now! I was told to ask for Duncan.

I’m after tickets and travel for Athens, and I’m willing to pay the going rate for it. He said you were offering travel and that you sometimes get hold of tickets for games as well.

I’m afraid that in a little bit of a drunken state after the semi I told my wife and son that we’d go to the game. I promised! My son (12) even made me sign a bit of paper! We’re based in Ireland and although I do get to odd games I’m not high up enough on that season ticket list. And I had to work in the states for the biggest part of the season so I never got a chance to start a fan card going for this time round. We watched the semi at home and I had a few too many.

I feel a bit guilty about promising the lad we’d go, so against my better judgement I’m going to pull out all the stops to make sure we do go. I’ll just have to tell the wife about it with a bit of a different price!

How much of the trip can you help me with? My secretary is ringing around agencies in London but I’d rather book through a red to be honest. I don’t mind you making a profit, but I’d rather it be a red than some cockney wide boy. The other trouble is my secretary is my wife’s best mate so she’ll find out how much it’s really costing. We can afford it, but I’ve just told her we can’t afford a cruise she wanted to go on. You know how it is.

I need 3 match tickets (preferably together, but if you can get me two pairs I think I could persuade the brother in law to sit with the wife and I’ll sit with the lad).
I need 3 flight tickets (or 4 if I’ve got 2 pairs of tickets)
I need a hotel room suitable for three, or two rooms if I’ve got 4 match tickets (the lad can kip with the brother in law, unless I’ve overstepped the mark and I’ll have to kip in his room!)

I’ll sort out a flight to the UK, or a ferry if it comes to it. I can get to any UK airport although I’d prefer Liverpool for the craic.

I’ve got to sneak this past the wife somehow, so if you can give me a receipt that suits what she wants to see that would be a big help!

Thanks for your help.

Richard.

Richard Hughes-Milton
————————————(So, if that’s a wind-up then Dunk’s in the clear. If it’s not then he’s made a serious breach of privacy by publishing the name. It probably is a wind-up, but how could Dunk know? And I wonder how many other members have “trusted” Dunk with personal info of some kind?) He continues…)

DunkAdministrator
(KopTalk.com)
09/05/07 01:23 PM

Re: Pulling my chain again – lol

Originally Posted By: choicer
You must help him Dunk ! You must..how can he let his little 12 year old down..

lol… the thing is he wants us to say “yeh we can sell you some match tickets” so that it satisifies their bizarre claims that we sell them.

I’m so glad I edit KopTalk.. I wouldn’t change it for the world (Bizarre! I suppose you think your members have forgotten about the tickets from last summer then? The FA Cup tickets? Remember? £1600? You’re trying to pretend that never happened though aren’t you? Especially because you don’t want Lauren to find out.)

So is Dunk happy with his new-found open policy? I hope so. Because we’ve also got some other emails that were sent to him. And his replies… I don’t think there’s a great need for me to comment, other than to say – have you seen anyone backtrack so fast? (I’ve removed the details of the original emailer for this exchange.)

In your clamour to get some more attention like an ignored toddler you decided to pretend you could do a great money-saving service for Reds by offering them tickets to Athens.

Oops!

First of all they aren’t the cheapest.

Second of all you break your own claims of never asking for credit card details.

Thirdly you break the rules on advertising for flights – the industry is heavily regulated after various scams over the years from both ill-thought-out but honest schemes as well as dodgy scam merchants.

Do you know the penalties for advertising flights without giving the details of the ATOL registration of the operator? And the ABTA registration you personally have to have in order to advertise? And have you got proof of the indemnity insurance you’ve taken out?

Did you know how the rules worked before you made these ads part of your site? Did you know about international laws? About seizure of passports from those contravening the rules? Want to go and live abroad? You’ll have no passport to escape with soon.

Ah well, you know best don’t you.

And ATOL, ABTA, and Consumer Direct know about you now. Just wait until their “big cheeses” get into work again on Tuesday.

Time to run again?

Regards.
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From: “Editor – [KOPTALK.COM]”
May 6 (4 days ago)

Hi a****

Thanks for your email and your concerns. We have passed your comments onto the operator.

If you know of any cheaper flights direct to Athens on the same days etc please don’t hesitate to let us know and we’ll see that this information is made available to as many people as possible.

Thanks again for taking the time to email us.

Regards

Duncan

Editor

KOPTALK.COM
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to steve, Editor, steve.macneish, support
May 7 (3 days ago)
I’ve already made sure that as many people as possible know to avoid using your service, or at the very least that they insist on dealing directly with the operator. The biggest worry is that you will be asking for people’s personal information, including credit card details, yet you aren’t registered under the DPA. You’ve no legal right to request credit card details. You’ve no legal right to advertise this “offer” without revealing the details of the operator. And if (emphasis on “if”) they are registered appropriately they stand to face huge penalties for allowing you to make this offer without revealing full details of who they are, including registration numbers and registered addresses.

I don’t believe for one minute that you’ve passed my concerns on to the operator. You wouldn’t dare.

My concerns have been passed onto ABTA, ATOL and Consumer Direct though. Don’t be surprised to find there is a press release being issued from one or all of thse this week, carrying warnings about using the ” Koptalk.com” service for flights.

More people read the Koptalk Insider blog than read your site I expect. So I suppose most uk-based Reds already know about your past and the risk they would take in passing their card details to you. But add this press release to it and what’s left of your chances of another scam have gone.

Im also asking for a list of your many threats of violence towards others. You’ve uttered numerous threats, especially in the last year or so, and I really don’t think the authorities in Greece would welcome you or Steve. My contact in Greece wanted the list of threats you’ve made, plus any photographs. I’ve also mentioned the problems concerning the tens of thousands of pounds you collected for your cousin, the failure to refund money, the hints that you are looking to move abroad. I would imagine that yourself and Steve would at best get to spend a few days inside the airport at Athens. At worst? Well I don’t know, it’s up to the authorities over there. My contact is also offering to send the information to other immigration and customs official at various other European countries, plus a few other countries in their little “intelligence circle”. Either way you’ll have a tough time trying to sell any more of those pathetic footies you sold to gullible or trusting fans last year.

I think today would be a good day to forward your threats of violence to Merseyside Police too. After all, they’ll be adding intelligence for the operation to keep things all good and friendly for the trip to Greece. The last thing we want to see is fans of other clubs with violent tendencies trying to tag along.

I know that none of this will stop you. You’ve no shame, no concern for others, you’re one of the most selfish people outside of politics that I’ve ever come across. You took all that money for Lauren and there’s no sign it ever got to her. Now her friends are concerned because she seems to be going a little crazy with the substances she doesn’t get off the doctor. Would she be in such a bad way if you’d coughed up that cash?

The paedo jokes are sickening. Absolutely sickening. I really don’t know how long it will take for your daughter (or her friends) to work you out. How anyone could make stories up about their own kids the way you do I really don’t know. I’m just hoping desperately that your fantasies have stayed as fantasies. I still think it’s time the local authorities knew about you. Especially the parents of your daughter’s friends. I wouldn’t want you anywhere near any kids.

Although most of what you do is quite serious, there are some really funny parts when you make one blunder or another. Or when someone pulls you up on something and you wrap yourself up in knots trying to lie your way out of it. The funniest part of it all is that you could have avoided it all if only you’d admitted to some of the more minor stuff being said about you initially.

The saddest part is that Steve’s chances in life are taking more and more of a nose-dive every day he spends with you. You chose your life of deceit, but Steve’s having that forced upon him by his bullying big-brother. The least you could do is spare him – let him make up his own mind. Let him see ALL the emails you get, let him see ALL the money you get from your scams, let him see how much money you really collected for your cousin. You won’t let him though – you’ll just fob him off and hope he is naive enough to believe you. You’ll try and call his bluff – maybe one day he’ll call yours.

Liverpool fans boycott the S*n. Liverpool fans look after each other, not “number one”. You care about nobody but yourself. You risk the safety of your own children by putting their pictures on the net in an environment where you claim they are being threatened and attacked – are you an irresponsible selfish parent or are you a liar – or both? Your wife left you a long time ago I hope she finds out the rest of the truth about you, I hope she does whatever she can to protect her children from you, or is she as bad as you?

I thought you were the editor now anyway Steve? Why did you get demoted again? Dunk not happy with losing that last bit of control over you? How old are you? Isn’t it time you started to be your own man now? You’ll be wiping Dunk a**e for him within another two years at the rate he’s going – he won’t be able to reach it. Is that what you really want? Your mates will be so jealous.

I bet you don’t reply. Dunk won’t let you. He’ll make up some excuse, but he won’t let you because he doesn’t want you to talk to anyone who might just tell you some home truths about him. If you’re happy with all his reasons for what he does, why can’t you talk to people yourself?

How many times have you seen him lie to others? How many times do you think he’s lied to you? Is your mum as bad as him or does she just do what he makes her do? Is your dad proud to be part of something like Dunk’s little empire?

Maybe I’m wrong, maybe the whole family really are all lowlife scum. But I’ve a feeling you aren’t, you’ve still time to get out and see the real world. But you’ll have to be quick before more of your life runs away from you. And before Dunk has you signing your name on something again in case you get caught. Your age might reduce your sentence, but it won’t reduce the fact that you’ve had a conviction. Don’t believe what you’ve been told about offences when a minor.

I don’t know what fairytale you’re living but I’m absolutely trembling
here.

You do whatever you think is necessary if you believe the things you and
your friends are saying. All these allegations and threats nearly a year
on and yet we’re still here plodding on, new members signing up every
day and supporting the site. Thousands of members renewing each year, it
must hurt you. I think you need to step your campaign up a little more
for us because since all the negativity started we’ve actually seen an
increase in new memberships. People are convinced that we’re behind
blogs and other sites purely as some kind of marketing ploy – sadly I’m
not that clever, well I probably am but I don’t have as much free time
as yourself.

I know that you really believe the things you’re saying and that you
think I’m this bad person. In one way I worry for you because I
genuinely think so much bitterness is unhealthy. But in another way I
laugh at you because maybe you are all there in the head and this is
just an obsession.

I appreciate you don’t like me, my website and so on but even so I don’t
wish any harm on you. I haven’t got time to play games and exchange
email after email because I’m damned if I do and I’m damned if I don’t.
If you really do believe the allegations etc just report them. It’s
easier that way.

Why don’t you come and visit me yourself? You’re more than welcome. I’ll
get you a beer or a cuppa. It doesn’t have to be dramatic. I’ll
willingly welcome you into my home and chat about the silly things you
claim. I can take you to visit Lauren and her family if you like, you
can meet my wife, my kids, Steve and anyone else that you feel I have
under lock and key.

I’m not going to enter into further discussions via email because people
such as yourself are making me into an internet celebrity. I can’t
believe I’m even giving you the time of day but you know what, it’s Bank
Holiday Monday so it’s not so busy just now and you’ve caught me in a
good mood.

Now I have to crack on a****. You’re wasting your time emailing me/us
again unless you want to meet me face to face. Then I can ‘try’ and show
you how mistaken you’ve been.

All emails are vetted before they hit my email inbox so I will instruct
them not to forward any emails to my private account unless you plan to
drop by. With regards availability, I’m free most dates in June, the
earlier the better.

Take it easy

Duncan

PS: I have asked Steve to send this email to you. If he chooses to reply
to you himself that’s up to him. Believe it or not he has a mind of his own.

Perhaps a meeting is a good idea. If you genuinely are a victim in all of this, and if all of these claims against you are untrue, then what better way to put your side across.

I think it’s going to take a lot of your time to do this, but better to do it properly than not do it all I think.

Before I go on, I do genuinely believe a lot of what I’ve read about you. I’m going on what I’ve seen you write, what I’ve heard you say, what I’ve seen on your video podcasts. You do contradict yourself, you do it a lot. Then you delete threads and people don’t know if they did see a contradiction, or if it was just them getting mixed up.

It’s a great technique, deliberate or otherwise.

People are trusting, and people have trusted you. I’m sure if you asked for their credit card details and pin number they’d have given it to you.

But then you got asked some reasonable questions and instead of just doing the easy thing you told lies. I saw with my own eyes how you said one thing one day and another thing the day after.

You seem pretty certain that if I met you I’d be able to see with my own eyes that you were right and the blog was wrong. Well that’s an invitation I can’t turn down.

I’ve got thousands of questions. If you’ve nothing to hide you’ll have no problem answering them. I can be a bit like a Jeremy Paxman though, or a James Whale, but I’m sure you’ll be happy to answer them.

In fact I think it would be good if I could bring a couple of associates / acquaintances with me. And better still, we could do a video podcast ourselves. Obviously I’d respect the privacy of your family – it would be good to meet your wife, but if she’s no longer willing to be in the Koptalk limelight (she used to appear a lot, then nothing for two years) then she doesn’t have to be on film. But we could interview you – what better way is there for you to put the story straight?

There’s even a chance I could get the video broadcast on TV, I’ve got contacts who work in the media and they like this kind of thing on some of the quieter channels. I could turn it into a 30-minute documentary without too much difficulty. In fact I’ll contact the blog and ask them if they’d like to take part. I don’t think they’d want to meet you though – not after all your talk of breaking legs and hiring hitmen and ripping off faces and so on.

How would you feel about me getting the blog and its readers to suggest questions that we can ask you on screen?

Regarding Lauren, I don’t want her to go through too much trauma, but perhaps I could speak to her briefly off-camera, then speak on camera to her parents. I can get dates of when money was donated, particularly the bigger amounts, and they can confirm they got it. Without being funny about it, the Forsyths would be so glad of the money you collected they’d be only too glad to prove they did get it all, and perhaps show some proof of both getting it and what it went on. I know those of us who donated will be delighted to know it didn’t pay for your latest gadget or whatever.

Other things you could do is show me the receipts (well, your copies) from that Alder Hey appeal. You can show me details of how you obtained those signed footballs – most of the time when getting things signed the autograph hunter takes a photo, so you must have those. You’ve been around long enough to know that’s what gets done.

I’m not sure I want to see them as such, but those threatening emails you said you got – you could show us those and we can confirm where they came from and when etc.

Some of the claims you make sound, to be frank, quite far fetched. Claims of property all over the show, and of being friends with players and staff of Liverpool, Newcastle, Sheffield Wednesday etc. It’s not hard for you to prove all these things if true – we can look at the proof but don’t have to show it on film if you’ve some reason why we shouldn’t.

I’m pretty much free myself in June, any day on the first week would be ideal, let’s get this over and done with. But I thought you were going abroad for the summer? Where would we be meeting you?

I actually think it would be good to see you at both the Wallsend side of things (Koptalk HQ and your house there) plus your Scarborough home, the one you live at over the weekends I think you said. Then if there’s anything we want to see, you can’t say “Oh it’s at the other house”. We can see it one way or another then.

They key thing here is that if you’ve nothing to hide you’ll have no reasonable objections to what we ask you to do, for what we ask to see. As I’ve said, if there are three of us and we can’t film a piece of evidence we can at least talk to camera to confirm we’ve seen it. If you’ve nothing to hide you could make the blog look very, very daft.

But if you are hiding anything, no matter how small, now’s the time to come clean. In fact if you’ve told a couple of white lies that got bigger and bigger now’s the time to own up, then we can report that on the film we make. Almost like a confessional side to the film to get it started, followed by us showing all the good stuff.

Try and get a date sorted and we’ll try and fit in with it. It would be good to be able to meet your wife, your mum, Steve, Katie, Gianna, Jordy, Emma etc. Make sure you can get them all there, because again it will help your credibility.

Anyway – Steve I’d love to have your views on all this, independently, ahead of the meeting to give me some background. Are you happy at Koptalk, do you see it as a stop-gap or a long-term thing?

I’m going to try and suspend judgement for now, but I really will take a lot of convinving. However I am open minded and am prepared to be amazed. If you’ve not been lying you’ll walk this and will make the blog look bad. Start lying though and it will be you that looks bad.

Let me know the date – and if it needs two days to fit both Wallsend and S’Bro in then let me know that too – we can almost certainly be there for both days.

I have been asked to forward this on for you and I would just like to
add that I think you are a fucking prick.

All the best

Steve
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Hi

Sorry A**** but I think you totally misunderstand, either that or you’re
just trying to be clever.

I’m not here to justify myself to anyone, neither is anyone in my
family, that’s not why I offered you some of my time. If you believe
something untoward has ever taken place I suggest you or your friends
report this to the authorities, I’ll answer to them, not some jealous or
bitter plebs on the internet.

You have a personal invitation to come and visit me. If you need someone
to hold your hand they’re welcome to wait outside. I’d love to ask you
how you can use the innocent lives of 96 Reds that died at Hillsborough
(these were real people A***** with real families) to try and earn
brownie points online. I’d also like to know how you can target a
disabled girl and my family. Nothing would give me greater satisfaction.

I’m not going to enter into any more email communication with you. Just
pop by before the 2^nd week of June or after August 31^st . Just call at
my house and I can be there within a few minutes as HQ is only a few
blocks away.

I’m a very busy person a**** with much more important things to do with
my time than play games with people such as yourself. I don’t need to
hide behind false names, false email accounts and false addresses. I’m
accountable and I’m here most of the time. Just call in.

Thank you for the kind reply. How mature and well-thought-out. You are being well trained.

I trust you’ll pass this on (in fact I expect your master is reading it over your shoulder – if indeed you’ve even seen it).

Duncan,

What’s the problem with other people coming with me? I don’t particularly understand why that would be a problem. We’re talking about a total of perhaps three people, including myself.

Why did you offer me your time if it’s not to justify yourself? Again I don’t understand. Can you explain that or is it another difficult question for you?

What’s this about me using the 96? Did I string along one of the Hillsborough groups for months on end about a computer I’d promised them? Remember? You promised them a computer. You promised it them online, making sure all your readers were well aware of it. Then you didn’t deliver it. In fact I think it was a threat from an annoyed member of that group to “out” you for not supplying the PC that finally made you cough up some kind of computer. How much money did you make out that piece of PR? And how about Michael Shields? “Pledging” money is all well and good – it’s about time you coughed up. How much did you make by carrying ads on the pages you created, the ones which took attention away from the pages his own family set up? You could defend your actions over these things on the video – if you’re being honest then you’ve no worries. Why do you buy the S*n by the way? You say you are a red yet you buy the paper that the families of those who died tell us we must never, ever touch. They’ve discussed options on lifting the boycott, but have turned it down flat. How hard is it to resist a few pairs of tits and poorly-written gossip? Could you happily go to one of those family members and tell them, “Hello, I buy the Sun, I read the Sun, I write stories using its contents”? Could you? I could happily go to that same family member and say, “Hello, I hate the Sun and fully support the boycott. I’ll do all I can to make sure every Liverpool supporter I know, meet or get in touch with also knows about the boycott.” I’ve yet to meet any true red, online or offline, who didn’t support the boycott. I’ve even met numerous fans of other clubs who’ve gone out of their way to tell me they also support the boycott. EVEN MANCS! One more whilst were talking about Brownie points. You ignored and even ridiculed the boycott for years, then when you lost all your members you decided to suddenly pretend to care. How? By putting a great big Koptalk logo on the front of coverage you stole from the BBC of the protest at the Arsenal game. I’d say that was looking for brownie points, hits and new members myself. USING THE 96.

And as for “targetting” a disabled girl and your family – how have I done that? I said that rather than upset her (Lauren), we could interview her mum or dad about the money you collected. I can get loads of dates of loads of donations, and it’s pretty easy for her dad or mum to cross-match those dates and amounts with money you handed over. Piece of piss. UNLESS YOU ARE HIDING SOMETHING! Funny isn’t it? That’s all I am asking – if you’ve nothing to hide then it’s no worry and the blog will look like dickheads. I think you are shitting yourself that her mum and dad might just find out the full truth about the amount that was collected, and that it will be thousands of pounds short of what you dished out. As for targetting your family, who did I target again? Are you paranoid or just using the wrong tried and trusted lines of diversion? You told me I could meet your wife. I mentioned that the blog has doubts about your mother and step-father, in that if you are as corrupt as the blog claims, and they know about it, then they are just as bad as you. The only way my comments could really be construed as an attack on your family is if you are admitting that you are a low-life. Think about it.

I’d prefer to arrange a meeting than just turn up so you can get mummy to pretend you are out. I’ve heard you do that a lot. And did you forget you’d said you’d be abroad for the summer too? Oops! But if you are now bottling out of that then that really does not come as a surprise. It really doesn’t.

I won’t come alone – that would be stupid given your threats to those behind the blog, and your threats to even your own members.

How about Sunday 3rd June and Monday 4th June? We’d love to meet your wife (if she still speaks to you) to hear how she puts up with the paedo jokes and so on, and to find out why she lets you put your kid’s faces all over the net despite your claims that your daughter has been threatened with rape and so on. I don’t know a single woman who’d allow her kids to be abused in that way. Not one.

I’m a bit confused over where we have to call in order to meet you. Your house or “HQ”? Which is it? And what’s the address?

You say you won’t reply any more by email – well the least you can do is let us know where we should meet.

I suggest you calm down and be less paranoid. This is the chance you’ve been waiting for to put the blog in its place. If you’ve nothing to hide you’ll have the blog looking daft in no time. No time at all.

Just let me know where and when. We’ll be there.

Regards,

A.

P.S. One thing quickly about false names and so on. You were pretending to be called “Barry” about 18 months ago when you ran that Newcastle site. Or was that the Spurs one? And you told your members last year that “Duncan Oldham” was actually a false name. So were you lying, or are you the one using false names?

“A” has said pretty much everything that needs to be said. Despite sending a few more emails he never got another reply. Dunk says he can meet him anytime over the summer, but won’t say where he lives? Why? What’s he frightened of? Nobody’s threatening him, but “A” offered to video him.

And that sounds like a good idea to me. And Dunk’s HQ is at 5 Swan Avenue, as you’ll find mentioned in many other places on this blog. He probably lives there too, with his mam and Steve. If you’ve got a video camera and a bit of free time this summer, go and do a video podcast and send it in…