Can we start with little cup for those around stuffs? Because i think it would be an advantage for american players who use to do arounds that way (big cup 1st) whereas european players (and japonese ones) use do start with little cup.

Ahah thank you man! It wasn't easy but I finally managed it in little more than an hour. Great challenge by the way. Now starts the harder thing: find the most difficult consistency challenge for you guys... and a good enough prize! Stay tuned!

i only have to say one thing,following and play by the rules is the main thing, the tricks were written out and the ladder have to start with the big cup to bird to start with.i know dadooh ask about it if it was possible to do start with the little cup, but that was not written down.(I'm also used to it to start with the little cup on every trick that named Around the . . . . . )

on the Li ho Cheung the bird tricks are more a bird stall and not a proper landing (i mean with hold it for one second), it is not a speedtrick challenge but a consistency.

don't get me wrong here i do have respect for both players because they really great, but there are some rules and basics everyone know here that are following those consistency ladders from the start.

i only want to mention this to give everybody the same chances, and play by the rules(basics), and do the tricks that are listed in the exactly order.what do you guys think?(i'm not writing this because i was close, but just to mention about how i think about be fair, for everyone that like to play and take part)

i think if there isn't any agreements the next following consistency rounds, then it could be hard to make decisions (good or not)

i personaly dont thinks it matters that much from what cup you start.. but from now i think is better if we did what Alex said..some basics ruls !! Congrats both of you !!! the first post is the winner...i now that better i was beaten by 10 seconds:)))