Women and The Election

This post analyzing how women voted for Hillary got me thinking about the women I know in real life and how they voted.

Something I noticed very early on, even before the Democratic convention named Hillary as the candidate, was that despite her being a woman, she wasn’t very popular among women I knew in real life who I normally would have expected to embrace her.

They were mostly baby boomers, educated, middle to upper middle class, lifelong democrats. I was puzzled. As these women revealed they did not back Hillary one after another, I was surprised. They didn’t really give a specific answer, but they had clearly already made up their mind about her.

This was before Wikileaks, before things really got heated, long. long, long before the last few weeks or months to election day.

I wish they would have been more specific as to exactly “what” it was about Hillary, so I could understand better why a group that by all predictors should have been excited as all get out to have a candidate for president who was, at least on the surface, so similar to them. But they were not.

But since I don’t know exactly what it was, I cannot say. However I could see early that it did not bode well for her chances if this group the democrats themselves considered a slam-dunk was actually not.

I got a similar response from women my age or younger who live in the same rural area of a blue state I do. Most of them also lean democrat, but once again they also said they were not planning to vote for her. Odd. Even women I knew to be liberal leaning.

In fact, in real life I only had a total of three women say they were voting for Hillary. Out of dozens and dozens who on the surface, should have been. Weird.

So I looked on Facebook, where I have friends and professional relationships from all over the country. I noticed that of all of them, one group in particular was very pro-Hillary: Women my age or younger living in large metro areas such as New York, San Francisco, Seattle, etc.

The difference between what I was seeing and hearing in real life versus what I saw online may as well have been two different universes!

And that is what I think happened. Hillary staff, the media, the polls, the backers were likely caught up in an echo chamber effect in these same urban areas where women (and many men) were very supportive of Hillary. But because they likely don’t interact much with the millions of Americans living outside of metro areas, they weren’t hearing what I was — that she did not have their support on anywhere near the same levels.

Maps that showed how people voted not only by state but also by county confirm the same. Metro areas appear as blue dots in an otherwise overwhelmingly red map.

Over and over I heard women in real life say that while they did not agree with some of the things Trump had said, they were voting for him. I know most of these women well. They are not Stepford wife types. They are not lifelong, hardcore right wing folks. They are not sexist, racist, bigoted, haters. They are not deplorable nor are they uninformed or unintelligent.

And I also know if they truly believed Trump was any of those things either, they never would have voted for him. Guaranteed. These are peaceful, kind, thoughtful women.

So I know many are worried that these people who voted for Trump are horrible, but they are not. Really.

I don’t believe he is either. To be honest, my guess is that he likely has Asperger’s or some sort of spectrum disorder, or put less technically is of such high intelligence in ways most people aren’t, that he just doesn’t naturally understand social graces. I know people like him in real life actually, and they are good people, if odd.

If you are among the worried, to you I say this, “It’s all going to be OK. I promise.” Relax. Have a glass of wine or something. And be thankful we live in a nation where we can vote. And disagree. And even protest peacefully (not riot, big difference) And vote again next time.

Imagine the Constitution saying, “I’ve got this!” Because it does! So long as we stick with that, pretty much every worst case scenario is checked and balanced. Thank Goodness for that!

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23 thoughts on “Women and The Election”

When I was working as a reporter covering small town government, I was shocked at what I saw. It was really obvious that many involved either did not understand what they were voting on, or had an obvious personal agenda, or both. I was seriously disheartened. I talked to my very smart boss. And he said, “Democracy is messy, but it works. You’ll see…” And he was right. I can’t think of a better system, flaws and all, can anyone else?

Or put another way, perhaps those who threatened to leave for Canada or “somewhere, anywhere but here,” did not, also says the same?

The guy was certainly doing something right. Even the GOP party did not want him as their candidate. But the people said they did. And then all said he would never get elected. And yet he did. That did not happen by accident…

Agree with Farmboy … Hillary is EVIL and most women could sense it, feel it. They couldn’t describe it but they knew … she was a liar, deceitful, corrupt, she’d turn on anyone if given enough power/money and that includes women. Women are usually loyal to other women but not so Hillary … she had no soul, no ethics, no morality. She was bought, sold, and paid for. A good example is her comment on “wiping the server … like with a cloth or something ?”. She and her advisors had been plotting and collaborating for weeks, months, on how to hide the evidence, the emails, how to make it disappear, how to delete it, TO ERASE IT … they sought out Bleach Bit to do a secure erase … they knew what they were doing and when asked ???? “Like with a cloth or something ???” That cunt had no soul … it was gone. Women knew it, men knew it, voters knew it. The only ones who didn’t were the brainwashed progressives … the same one’s who still refuse to accept reality … SHE LOST.

I only hope that Trump or the congress continues to pursue criminal charges till that cunt is in prison. Why ? Because the insane leftists are already prepping Chelsea for congress … they will lie, cheat, still, bribe, blackmail, and murder until that one is in a political office too … the only way to stop it is to put Hillary in prison for life. I know the liars are gonna lie … but her father was brought up for Impeachment and her MOTHER was sent to prison for life … kinda hard for the liars to say Chelsea is fit for office or anything. Right ? Can we pray for that ?

@ Mega they felt “something” for sure, I cannot explain it otherwise. I am not kidding, if anyone should have been all in it would have been the women I speak of and yet… even they were not. Long ago, long before all the scuttle.

First, tingle=votes would not explain the aversion of women to Hillary in the primaries. “Tingles” being physical attraction. I am only guessing here, but I would like to think they saw her as the candidate of radical, man hating, feminist harpies. If they felt that way, it is likely they would be closed mouth about it.
As for her greater popularity in urban areas, isn’t that where recent graduates gather? They would look on third wave feminism with greater favor.

She’s fake and scary. There have been rumors and stories about her corruption for YEARS. She’s a cold fish. She has a reputation for being cruel and dismissive of her staff. There are some now-released FBI documents which reveal how awful she is to work with. People hear about this stuff. Those that don’t hear about it, they can sense it.

Many votes for him were merely against her. But also, like Scott Adams (Dilbert cartoonist) describes on his blog, Trump has extraordinary powers of persuasion, and that got people following him. These two factors gave him the election.

I partially agree with Ton (not on the soul thing, but would love to hear you elaborate).
I honest to God think it was her voice. Womens vote has always gone to the candidate with the deepest voice.

When it comes to sense, I normally am much more smell-oriented, and like or dislike otherwise neutral people based on that. I only notice extremes in voices. I know hearing-oriented people who are very sensitive to peoples voices and only notice extremes in smell. But even I, otherwise not bothered by voices too much, get stressed out the moment I hear the nasty sound of that woman (miss Lewinsky – no wait, wait! I meant Clinton ;)). Hearing her also made our littlest one edgy.

@Ton: Women are soulless and have been considered so for most of history.

As are men considered soulless.

Throughout all of the Old Testament, the person was considered to BE a soul. Never were they considered to HAVE a soul. Person and soul = one and the same. Earthly dust animated by the breath of God. At death, the body returns to the dust of the earth and the breath of life returns to God. The Hebrews believed that only God is immortal. To accept that something in us survives death is to accept that God is not the only immortal one, and destroys the value of, the need for, the resurrection. (Plus, consider the fact that the Hebrew word translated as “soul” (nephesh) is also used in conjunction with birds and animals.

The early Church Fathers, based on the Greek thinking that body and thoughts were separate entities, expanded on the Greek concept of “soul” as something separate from the body. However, the Internet is full of discourse refuting the idea that the early Church Fathers believed that women have no souls. Curiousity is your friend.