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I dont think I'v mentioned Swift once. Everything that you hear some announcer like Steven Smith say on the radio or tv is not always true. How many times did Chris Webber get traded to NY? How many times was Boozer traded last year?

And I never said we shouldnt get Harrington. My point is that he's a good tweener Forward, but nothing special in today's game. So stop overjocking him. If he was so special, he would have made much more noise while in Atlanta.

Dalembert is a unique player. It's too bad we'll probably never get him...

Did he want someone older? Or did he want someone more developed? Andre played 32 a night when he should be a college junior. Dalembert is a great athlete, no doubt. But when I've seen him he has never looked like he had a feel for the game. There's a chance he will develop this feel and a chance he won't. Like I've said I don't think Philly wants Marbury's game or contract anyway.

You might very well be right. I dont doubt that. But remember, a 3-way deal could always happen. But then it gets complicated, and begs to ask the question why wouldnt Philly just cut the crap and resign Dally themselves?

All of this is such bull****. I wonder often if Isiah has ever really had a single vision, or if he just does what he do.

If you're point is that Al's a good player but not Michael Jordan than why the hell have you been arguing with me? That's what I said from the beginning. He was a solid piece on a very good team. Dalembert cannot claim to have done the same.
Dalembert is not so unique. If he was that unique he would not have fallen to 26 or whatever in the draft and would have developed into a half way decent player. That's my point he's no Deke. He would be a nice project, but he's been in the league several years and is still undeveloped.

He's been in the league 2 years buddy. And plenty of players drop in the draft. That's not a valid point. Example - Arenas.

My point is that it's my opinion that Dally is a much better option than Kwame or Stro. But I'm not Isiah. And I'm also not Billy King. So until we hear some serious rumors regarding this, it's all speculation. But I'm all for trading Marbury in general, and I won't complain if we keep him. I just want wins, I want heart, I want hustle, I want attitude. Anything else is deserving of complete and utter demolition of this team...

I don't know if getting Swift for the MLE is such a stretch. Not sure, but I would assume it went up with the cap going up. Jerry West is a great GM, but he thinks that he's even better than he is. He'll have none of Zeke's garbage so unless we get a three way or maybe take on Jason Williams and/or James Posey I don't see it happening. He probably won't have any of anyone's garbage so Swift might have to settle for the MLE. West is so overconfident in his abilities though that if he sees something he likes in David Lee he might trade you Pau for him (joking). But he did take Bell and Jones in the first round. Swift also lost value after having a poor year when he couldn't get out of Memphis. He's as athleti as Dalembert although maybe two inhes smaller.

Tinsley has always been inconsistent and is nothing more than a guy who brings the ball up the court at his best. I don't know that this is worth arguing because there was debate as to whether Tinsley was the best PG on the 03-04 team (with the great Anthony Johnson and the rotting Kenny Anderson as his comp) and Reggie was cleary over the hill and nothing more than a spot up shooter. Harrington had more had more MPG and PPG and people were talking about how him and Artest were the best pair of perimeter defenders in the league. Harrington is also a tweener in the positive sense: he can play both the 3 and 4 and even the 2 while some guys are called tweeners if they can't play any position. It's basically difference in the field in baseball between a career DH and a utility infielder. Tweener has this stigma attached to it because it's used to descrbe a guy like Kirk Haston who's just horrible. A more appropriate term for Harrington would be versitile.

Bobby, I believe you're referring to a private message I sent you. It's like me opting to tell you one-on-one my opinion of you in lieu of not being able to tell you in your face. Of course, I could've followed your cowardly example and dissed you publicly, but I'll leave that to your arrogant self. My beef is you having to be so arrogant with me and others in a public forum. If you get your kicks from insulting people you don't know, I invite you to send me all the filthy private messages your ego desires, just refrain from being such a pendejo in public.

OT: bobs, i'm trying to be as patient as i can with you but you're pushing it real hard.
i did liked the fact that after all those insults between you and hometheatreguy you guys are getting along now, but PLEASE, try not to be so acid everytime somebody doesn't share your point of view. We have a set of rules that weren't followed all the time, but i will eventually follow the book

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Marbury hasnt had a full season with a half decent team since he has played for the knicks, except when he was first traded to new york when he had kvh and h20 and they were winning games.At least give him a chance because it looks like this seasons team will be good.And if we are still **** at the end of the season then maybe trading him is justified

For the last time - this goes beyond just Marbury being a great talent. You have to account for his age, his knees, his contract, and the cap.

When you look at all those factors, trading Marbury is forgiveable. And if we're keeping him, there better be another huge trade on the horizon, b/c by keeping him, we'll never get below the cap in the next 3 years, and neither will we get very far in the playoffs (unless there's an addition of a legit Big Man).