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Ponder was better than Michael Vick, Andy Dalton, and Mark Sanchez (among those with a significant amount of dropbacks), but the 3 just ahead of him on this "worst" list will be pretty surprising for most.

Yards per attempt, slightly better indicator than passer rating, and it speaks to the problem. Easier to understand, too. No point in ignoring we face a stacked box, then throw in front of it often._________________Don't blame me, i wanted fletcher cox, cordy glenn, aaron donald, and derrick carr.

Anyway, for my money, Vikes won 10 games, so, what they say is worth the benefit of the doubt. Problem, to me, is obvious. Vikes don't throw over the box very often, and it reflects in Ponder's numbers. If everyone was spread out more, then the short ones probably would work a bit better. Everyone's packed in to stop AD, though, and vikes don't throw over that. Vikes say the reason for that is the WR position. Harvin is an elite talent, but is never where he is supposed to be. So, the talented WR the vikes had couldn't be trusted to be where he is supposed to and the passing attack struggled. The signed Jennings and say they love him because he's a precise route runner. Problem addressed. Probably get further addressed in the draft.

Good enough for me, because Vikes won 10 games. Without much offense. Vikes offense basically scored what the defense gave up - worth about a .500 record. Vikes were 6-6 in games without a return TD (pick or kick/punt) 4-0 in games where they had a return. Vikes did no worse without Harvin, matter fact, they did better. Further proof vikes are on top of the problem. So, 10 wins without a marginal passing attack. Return game is worse right now, but I'll trade kick returns for a viable passing attack. I'm willing to wait and see as the Vikes have earned a pass on the passing attack. 10 wins._________________Don't blame me, i wanted fletcher cox, cordy glenn, aaron donald, and derrick carr.

Could it be that the smaller YPA was partly due to Musgraves' scheme to throw short, to Harvin, and throw shorter to keep Ponders' completion pct high, and avoid risky throws downfield to avoid turnovers?_________________
When we stop to think about it, most folks behavior isn't perplexing after all.

I like the kid; he has a fantastic work ethic and seems like a great person. He has made some boneheaded plays, but that's to be expected at this point in his career for the most part. I think he has the "clutch gene" possibly, I saw it during the Redskins game where he got us back in the game, but the defense gave up that 70 yard TD run to RGIII. The last Packer game comes to mind, and the first game of the year during the Jags game.

I think if we give him some more talent to boost his confidence, he will be a solid starter for us. Worst case, we get our guy in a year or two._________________
Prediction: Derek Carr = next Brandon Weeden; Zach Mett will be a good starter; Manziel will be a STAR.
Blake Bortles is going to be a Viking

Could it be that the smaller YPA was partly due to Musgraves' scheme to throw short, to Harvin, and throw shorter to keep Ponders' completion pct high, and avoid risky throws downfield to avoid turnovers?

The Vikings definitely ran an offense that didn't ask much from Ponder but that was because they didn't trust him. That needs to be seen as a negative.

I like the kid; he has a fantastic work ethic and seems like a great person. He has made some boneheaded plays, but that's to be expected at this point in his career for the most part. I think he has the "clutch gene" possibly, I saw it during the Redskins game where he got us back in the game, but the defense gave up that 70 yard TD run to RGIII. The last Packer game comes to mind, and the first game of the year during the Jags game.

I think if we give him some more talent to boost his confidence, he will be a solid starter for us. Worst case, we get our guy in a year or two.

i like you._________________From the fool’s gold mouthpiece the hollow horn,
Plays wasted words, proves to warn,
That he not busy being born is busy dying.

Could it be that the smaller YPA was partly due to Musgraves' scheme to throw short, to Harvin, and throw shorter to keep Ponders' completion pct high, and avoid risky throws downfield to avoid turnovers?

The Vikings definitely ran an offense that didn't ask much from Ponder but that was because they didn't trust him. That needs to be seen as a negative.

Or perhaps the WR corps was so dreadful, even when Harvin was active, that the team has no confidence in the receivers. It goes both ways. His WRs were dreadful, even when Harvin was running 5 yard patterns or less._________________

I think you're being dishonest if you watched the games. Ponder was scared in the pocket and inaccurate downfield much of the year. In the 2nd Bears game, the Vikings were flat out afraid to let him throw the ball.

I think you're being dishonest if you watched the games. Ponder was scared in the pocket and inaccurate downfield much of the year. In the 2nd Bears game, the Vikings were flat out afraid to let him throw the ball.

again, can you blame them. Jenkins & co were brutal downfield and couldnt get separation._________________