WEBVTT MIKE: WELCOME BACK TO "UPFRONT"MIKE: WELCOME BACK TO "UPFRONT"AND OUR CONVERSATION WITH THEAND OUR CONVERSATION WITH THECANDIDATES FOR WISCONSIN SUPREMECANDIDATES FOR WISCONSIN SUPREMECOURT.COURT.COURT.WE’RE TALKING NOW WITH MILWAUKEEWE’RE TALKING NOW WITH MILWAUKEECOUNTY CIRCUIT JUDGE REBECCACOUNTY CIRCUIT JUDGE REBECCADALLET.DALLET.SHE HAS BEEN A JUDGE FOR TENSHE HAS BEEN A JUDGE FOR TENYEARS.YEARS.SHE WAS A PROSECUTOR INSHE WAS A PROSECUTOR INMILWAUKEE COUNTY FOR ELEVENMILWAUKEE COUNTY FOR ELEVENYEARS BEFORE HER ELECTION TO THEYEARS BEFORE HER ELECTION TO THEBENCH.BENCH.SHE IS A GRADUATE OF CASESHE IS A GRADUATE OF CASEWESTERN RESERVE UNIVERSITY LAWWESTERN RESERVE UNIVERSITY LAWSCHOOL.SCHOOL.JUDGE DALLET, THANKS FOR JOININGJUDGE DALLET, THANKS FOR JOININGUS TODAY.US TODAY.GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.JUDGE DALLET: THANK YOU, MIKE.JUDGE DALLET: THANK YOU, MIKE.THANKS FOR HAVING ME.THANKS FOR HAVING ME.MIKE: YOU HAVE SAID THROUGHOUTMIKE: YOU HAVE SAID THROUGHOUTTHE CAMPAIGN THAT THE SUPREMETHE CAMPAIGN THAT THE SUPREMECOURT IN THE STATE OF WISCONSINCOURT IN THE STATE OF WISCONSINIS BROKEN.IS BROKEN.WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY BROKEN, ORWHAT DO YOU MEAN BY BROKEN, ORIS IT SIMPLY A MATTER THAT YOUIS IT SIMPLY A MATTER THAT YOUDO NOT LIKE THE CONSERVATIVEDO NOT LIKE THE CONSERVATIVEMAJORITY?MAJORITY?JUDGE DALLET: I CAN GIVE YOU ANJUDGE DALLET: I CAN GIVE YOU ANEXAMPLE AND THAT IS THE SPECIALEXAMPLE AND THAT IS THE SPECIALINTEREST MONEY THAT HAS POUREDINTEREST MONEY THAT HAS POUREDINTO THESE RACES TO BUY AINTO THESE RACES TO BUY AJUSTICE.JUSTICE.AND JOHN DOE CASE, THAT MONEYAND JOHN DOE CASE, THAT MONEYAPPEARED AS A PARTY IN THE CASE,APPEARED AS A PARTY IN THE CASE,AND IT SPENT $2.25 MILLION ONAND IT SPENT $2.25 MILLION ONJUSTICE GIMBAL WITH -- JUSTICEJUSTICE GIMBAL WITH -- JUSTICEJUSTICE GIMBAL WITH -- JUSTICEGABLEMAN’S CAMPAIGN,GABLEMAN’S CAMPAIGN,AND THE COURT SHUT DOWN THEAND THE COURT SHUT DOWN THEINVESTIGATION INTO COORDINATIONINVESTIGATION INTO COORDINATIONOF SPECIAL INTEREST MONEY INTOOF SPECIAL INTEREST MONEY INTOPOLITICS, REALLY DOING THEPOLITICS, REALLY DOING THEPOLITICAL BIDDING OF THE ALLIESPOLITICAL BIDDING OF THE ALLIESOF THOSE ON THE COURT.OF THOSE ON THE COURT.MIKE: YOU THINK THE COURT TODAYMIKE: YOU THINK THE COURT TODAYIS CONSTITUTED IS A RUBBERSTAMPIS CONSTITUTED IS A RUBBERSTAMPFOR THE GOVERNOR?FOR THE GOVERNOR?JUDGE DALLET: THAT IS WHAT ITJUDGE DALLET: THAT IS WHAT ITAPPEARS TO BE.APPEARS TO BE.WE LOOK AT DECISIONS COMING OUTWE LOOK AT DECISIONS COMING OUTOF THE COURT AND THEY APPEAR TOOF THE COURT AND THEY APPEAR TOBE DRIVEN BY PARTISAN POLITICSBE DRIVEN BY PARTISAN POLITICSCOLLECTING POLITICAL ALLIES ASCOLLECTING POLITICAL ALLIES ASOPPOSED TO APPLYING THE LAW,OPPOSED TO APPLYING THE LAW,WHICH IS WHAT ALL OF US INWHICH IS WHAT ALL OF US INWISCONSIN SHOULD WANT IT TO DO.WISCONSIN SHOULD WANT IT TO DO.MIKE: HOW WOULD YOU CHANGE THAT?YOU HAVE BEEN CRITICAL OF THEYOU HAVE BEEN CRITICAL OF THEWAY THE COURT IS WORKING NOW.WAY THE COURT IS WORKING NOW.HOW WOULD YOU CHANGE THAT?HOW WOULD YOU CHANGE THAT?JUDGE DALLET: I HAVE BEEN AJUDGE DALLET: I HAVE BEEN AJUDGE ALMOST 10 YEARS.JUDGE ALMOST 10 YEARS.I AND THE ONLY ONE WITH THATI AND THE ONLY ONE WITH THATKIND OF EXPERIENCE BRINGING TOKIND OF EXPERIENCE BRINGING TOTHE COURT.THE COURT.I KNOW HOW TO SIT ON A CASE, HOWI KNOW HOW TO SIT ON A CASE, HOWTO THE FACTS, TO LISTEN ANDTO THE FACTS, TO LISTEN ANDAPPLY IT TO THE LAW AND LOOK OUTAPPLY IT TO THE LAW AND LOOK OUTAPPLY IT TO THE LAW AND LOOK OUTFOR EVERYONE’S CONSTITUTIONALFOR EVERYONE’S CONSTITUTIONALRIGHTS, NOT TRYING TO REACH SOMERIGHTS, NOT TRYING TO REACH SOMEEND RESULT WITH THE COURT HASEND RESULT WITH THE COURT HASBEEN DOING.BEEN DOING.MIKE: I WANT TO ASK ABOUT AMIKE: I WANT TO ASK ABOUT APOINT OF CONTENTION IN THEPOINT OF CONTENTION IN THECAMPAIGN.CAMPAIGN.TIM BURNS HAS TAKEN WHAT I THINKTIM BURNS HAS TAKEN WHAT I THINKYOU WOULD CALL AN UNCONVENTIONALYOU WOULD CALL AN UNCONVENTIONALAPPROACH.APPROACH.HE HAS BEEN OUTSPOKEN ABOUT HISHE HAS BEEN OUTSPOKEN ABOUT HISOPINIONS ON ISSUES.OPINIONS ON ISSUES.YOU HAVE BEEN CRITICAL OF THAT.YOU HAVE BEEN CRITICAL OF THAT.YOU DO NOT THINK CANDIDATESYOU DO NOT THINK CANDIDATESSHOULD BE TAKING OPINIONS ONSHOULD BE TAKING OPINIONS ONISSUES, BUT SOME SAY YOU HAVEISSUES, BUT SOME SAY YOU HAVEBEGUN DOING THAT.BEGUN DOING THAT.I WANT TO READ A QUOTE COMMONI WANT TO READ A QUOTE COMMONINTERVIEW YOU DID RECENTLY WHEREINTERVIEW YOU DID RECENTLY WHEREYOU TALKED ABOUT YOUR VALUES.YOU TALKED ABOUT YOUR VALUES.BEAR WITH ME.BEAR WITH ME.IT IS A LITTLE BIT LONG.IT IS A LITTLE BIT LONG."OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WHICH HAVE"OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WHICH HAVEBEEN THREATENED IN TERMS OFBEEN THREATENED IN TERMS OFMONEY IS BEING CUT FROM IT, WEMONEY IS BEING CUT FROM IT, WEHAVE WONDERFUL LAKES, STREAMS,HAVE WONDERFUL LAKES, STREAMS,PARKS AND WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUTPARKS AND WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUTCLEAN AIR AND WATER.CLEAN AIR AND WATER.EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAWEQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAWIS AT RISK EVERY DAY, AND THESEIS AT RISK EVERY DAY, AND THESEARE THE THINGS THAT MAKEARE THE THINGS THAT MAKEWISCONSIN GREAT AND THOSE OTHERWISCONSIN GREAT AND THOSE OTHERTHINGS I WANT TO PROTECT, BUT WETHINGS I WANT TO PROTECT, BUT WEALSO NEED TO REMEMBER THIS IS AALSO NEED TO REMEMBER THIS IS ANONPARTISAN RACE AND THAT JUDGESNONPARTISAN RACE AND THAT JUDGESSHOULD NOT BE RUNNING WITHSHOULD NOT BE RUNNING WITHPOLITICAL MESSAGES, TAKINGPOLITICAL MESSAGES, TAKINGPOSITIONS ON CASES BEFORE THOSEPOSITIONS ON CASES BEFORE THOSECASES COME BEFORE THE COURT."CASES COME BEFORE THE COURT."YOU ARE RUNNING A TV AD WITH ANYOU ARE RUNNING A TV AD WITH ANOPENING SCENE PICTURINGOPENING SCENE PICTURINGPRESIDENT TRUMP OR THE AD SAYSPRESIDENT TRUMP OR THE AD SAYSHE HAS ATTACKED OUR CIVIL RIGHTSHE HAS ATTACKED OUR CIVIL RIGHTSAND OUR VALUES.AND OUR VALUES.IS THAT NOT A POLITICAL MESSAGE?JUDGE DALLET: THE MESSAGE RIGHTJUDGE DALLET: THE MESSAGE RIGHTNOW WHAT WE FEEL IN OUR COUNTRYNOW WHAT WE FEEL IN OUR COUNTRYIS THIS ATTACK ON OUR VALUES.IS THIS ATTACK ON OUR VALUES.IT IS NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE.IT IS NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE.MANY IN OUR COUNTRY AND STATEMANY IN OUR COUNTRY AND STATEARE VERY UPSET BY GOVERNMENT BYARE VERY UPSET BY GOVERNMENT BYTWEET.TWEET.UPSET BY THE TENOR, THE WAY OURUPSET BY THE TENOR, THE WAY OURVALUES ARE BEING ATTACKED EVERYVALUES ARE BEING ATTACKED EVERYDAY.DAY.IT IS NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE, THEIT IS NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE, THEFEELING WE ALL HAVE ABOUT THOSEFEELING WE ALL HAVE ABOUT THOSERIGHTS BEING ATTACKED.RIGHTS BEING ATTACKED.I BELIEVE JUDGES SHOULDI BELIEVE JUDGES SHOULDABSOLUTELY BE ABLE TO SHARE OURABSOLUTELY BE ABLE TO SHARE OURVALUES.VALUES.I HAVE DONE THAT SINCE DAY ONEI HAVE DONE THAT SINCE DAY ONEOF THIS CAMPAIGN, SINCE MY VERYOF THIS CAMPAIGN, SINCE MY VERYFIRST ANNOUNCEMENT.FIRST ANNOUNCEMENT.THE VERY VALUES YOU TALK ABOUTTHE VERY VALUES YOU TALK ABOUTIN THAT QUOTE --IN THAT QUOTE --MIKE: THAT WOULD NOT BE AMIKE: THAT WOULD NOT BE APROBLEM IF YOU HAD CASES COMEPROBLEM IF YOU HAD CASES COMEBEFORE YOU THAT DEALT WITHBEFORE YOU THAT DEALT WITHSCHOOL FINANCING OR SOMETHINGSCHOOL FINANCING OR SOMETHINGLIKE THAT THAT YOU WAIT IN ONLIKE THAT THAT YOU WAIT IN ONTHIS?THIS?JUDGE DALLET: NO, AND THAT ISJUDGE DALLET: NO, AND THAT ISTHE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND MYTHE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND MYOPPONENTS, ESPECIALLY MR. BURNS,OPPONENTS, ESPECIALLY MR. BURNS,WHO IS RUNNING AN OPENLYWHO IS RUNNING AN OPENLYPARTISAN RACE WHERE HE IS TAKINGPARTISAN RACE WHERE HE IS TAKINGPOSITIONS ON ISSUES.POSITIONS ON ISSUES.HE, IF THOSE ISSUES CAME BEFOREHE, IF THOSE ISSUES CAME BEFOREHIM, WOULD HAVE TO RECUSEHIM, WOULD HAVE TO RECUSEHIMSELF FROM TAKING THOSEHIMSELF FROM TAKING THOSEPOSITIONS.POSITIONS.I AM RUNNING A CAMPAIGN.I AM RUNNING A CAMPAIGN.I AM SHARING MY VALUES.I AM SHARING MY VALUES.PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THOSE BUTPEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THOSE BUTALSO NEED TO HAVE CONFIDENCE INALSO NEED TO HAVE CONFIDENCE INA FAIR AND IMPARTIAL COURT.A FAIR AND IMPARTIAL COURT.MIKE: ARE WE PARSING WHEN WE SAYMIKE: ARE WE PARSING WHEN WE SAYVALUES AS OPPOSED TO ISSUES YETVALUES AS OPPOSED TO ISSUES YETTHETHEDOES THE VOTER KNOW THEDOES THE VOTER KNOW THEDIFFERENCE?DIFFERENCE?JUDGE DALLET: THERE IS AJUDGE DALLET: THERE IS ADIFFERENCE.DIFFERENCE.MR. BURNS IS WILLING TO DO ANDMR. BURNS IS WILLING TO DO ANDSAY WHATEVER HE WANTS.SAY WHATEVER HE WANTS.HE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THEHE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THERULES.RULES.HE IS IN VIOLATION OF THE NEEDHE IS IN VIOLATION OF THE NEEDTO BE NONPARTISAN, AND HE DOESTO BE NONPARTISAN, AND HE DOESNOT CARE ABOUT THAT.NOT CARE ABOUT THAT.HE WILL PUT HIMSELF IN AHE WILL PUT HIMSELF IN APOSITION OR COULD PUT HIMSELF INPOSITION OR COULD PUT HIMSELF INA POSITION WHERE THE VERY ISSUESA POSITION WHERE THE VERY ISSUESHE HAS ALREADY DECIDED ANDHE HAS ALREADY DECIDED ANDSPOKEN OUT AGAINST WOULD APPEARSPOKEN OUT AGAINST WOULD APPEARIN FRONT OF THE COURT.IN FRONT OF THE COURT.HOW IS ANYONE SUPPOSED TO THINKHOW IS ANYONE SUPPOSED TO THINKIF A CASE INVOLVING SCOTT WALKERIF A CASE INVOLVING SCOTT WALKERCAME IN FRONT OF THE COURT THATCAME IN FRONT OF THE COURT THATHE WILL NOT BE BIASED?HE WILL NOT BE BIASED?MIKE: I WANT TO GIVE YOU AMIKE: I WANT TO GIVE YOU ACHANCE TO RESPOND.CHANCE TO RESPOND.YOU HAVE BEEN HIT WITH CRITICISMYOU HAVE BEEN HIT WITH CRITICISMFROM THE RIGHT WHO SAY YOU AREFROM THE RIGHT WHO SAY YOU ARESOFT ON CRIME.SOFT ON CRIME.THEY CITED A CASE FOR A SENTENCETHEY CITED A CASE FOR A SENTENCEFOR A SEX OFFENDER.FOR A SEX OFFENDER.TIM BURNS SAYS YOU HAVE BEENTIM BURNS SAYS YOU HAVE BEENRACIALLY INSENSITIVE IN ONE OFRACIALLY INSENSITIVE IN ONE OFYOUR DECISIONS.YOUR DECISIONS.HOW DO YOU COUNTER THOSE KINDSHOW DO YOU COUNTER THOSE KINDSOF CRITICISMS IN A CAMPAIGN OFOF CRITICISMS IN A CAMPAIGN OFTHIS KIND DACATHIS KIND DACA-- CAMPAIGN OF THIS KIND?-- CAMPAIGN OF THIS KIND?JUDGE DALLET: WHAT I WOULD SAYJUDGE DALLET: WHAT I WOULD SAYTO BOTH OF MY FOOT IS AS ITTO BOTH OF MY FOOT IS AS ITSOUNDS LIKE I AM DOING THE JOBSOUNDS LIKE I AM DOING THE JOBOF A JUDGE IF I AM BEING HITOF A JUDGE IF I AM BEING HITFROM THE LEFT AND RIGHT BECAUSEFROM THE LEFT AND RIGHT BECAUSETHE JOB OF A JUDGE IS TO LOOK ATTHE JOB OF A JUDGE IS TO LOOK ATALL THE FACTS, NOT TO PARSE OUTALL THE FACTS, NOT TO PARSE OUTPIECES AND PARTS TO MAKE IT FITPIECES AND PARTS TO MAKE IT FITYOUR POLITICAL RHETORIC.YOUR POLITICAL RHETORIC.I HAVE DONE THAT WORK.I HAVE DONE THAT WORK.I AND THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS DONEI AND THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS DONETHAT WORK.THAT WORK.I AM RECOGNIZED ACROSS THE STATEI AM RECOGNIZED ACROSS THE STATEFOR HAVING DONE THAT WORK.FOR HAVING DONE THAT WORK.I HAVE OVER 200 JUDGESI HAVE OVER 200 JUDGESSUPPORTING ME.SUPPORTING ME.THE ONES THAT KNOW OUR COURTSTHE ONES THAT KNOW OUR COURTSBEST KNOW I AM THE ONE THAT CANBEST KNOW I AM THE ONE THAT CANDO THIS JOB AND DO IT BEST.DO THIS JOB AND DO IT BEST.MIKE: I NOTICED A LOT OFMIKE: I NOTICED A LOT OFMENTIONS OF ATTORNEY BURNS.MENTIONS OF ATTORNEY BURNS.YOU HAVE NOT TALKED MUCH ABOUTYOU HAVE NOT TALKED MUCH ABOUTMICHAEL SCREWED UP -- MICHAELMICHAEL SCREWED UP -- MICHAELSCRENOCKSCRENOCKIS THERE A REASON FOR THAT?IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT?IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT?JUDGE DALLET: I’M HAPPY TO TALKJUDGE DALLET: I’M HAPPY TO TALKABOUT JUDGE SCRENOCK.ABOUT JUDGE SCRENOCK.HE HAS WORKED FOR SCOTT WALKER.HE HAS WORKED FOR SCOTT WALKER.HE HAS WORKED FOR THE REPUBLICANHE HAS WORKED FOR THE REPUBLICANPARTY.PARTY.PARTY.THERE’S NO DOUBT HE WOULDTHERE’S NO DOUBT HE WOULDABSOLUTELY FIT INTO WHAT ISABSOLUTELY FIT INTO WHAT ISHAPPENING ON THAT COURT AND BE AHAPPENING ON THAT COURT AND BE ARUBBERSTAMP FOR THE REPUBLICANRUBBERSTAMP FOR THE REPUBLICANPARTY AND FOR OUR GOVERNOR.PARTY AND FOR OUR GOVERNOR.MIKE: JUDGE REBECCA DALLET,MIKE: JUDGE REBECCA DALLET,RUNNING FOR SUPREME COURT JUDGE.RUNNING FOR SUPREME COURT JUDGE.THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.COMING UP NEXT ON "UPFRONT,"COMING UP NEXT ON "UPFRONT,"JUDGE MICHAEL SCRENOCK.JUDGE MICHAEL SCRENOCK.JUDGE MICHAEL SCRENOCK.WHY HE SAYS HE’S THE JUDICIALWHY HE SAYS HE’S THE JUDICIALCONSERVATIVE IN THE RACE.CONSERVATIVE IN THE RACE.>> THE SPRING PRIMARY IS>> THE SPRING PRIMARY ISFEBRUARY 20.FEBRUARY 20.THE GENERAL ELECTION IS APRIL 3.THE GENERAL ELECTION IS APRIL 3.IF YOU NEED HELP FINDING YOURIF YOU NEED HELP FINDING YOURLOCAL POLLING PLACE, REGISTERINGLOCAL POLLING PLACE, REGISTERINGTO VOTE, OR VOTING ABSENTEE, THETO VOTE, OR VOTING ABSENTEE, THEWISCONSIN ELECTIONS COMMISSIONWISCONSIN ELECTIONS COMMISSIONHAS INFORMATION ONLINE.HAS INFORMATION ONLINE.