Comments on: A Day in Novemberhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2010/05/a-day-in-november/
a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justiceSat, 27 Sep 2014 17:28:19 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.1By: Mulga Mumblebrainhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2010/05/a-day-in-november/#comment-67856
Sun, 30 May 2010 22:12:07 +0000http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=17648#comment-67856I think that any analysis that obscures the central truth,that Obummer is Zionist property and has been for years, and that Emanuel,his very first appointment, is the Dick Cheney ie ‘the shadow Shogun’of the Obummer Presidency, is pretty unhelpful. The little giggle of accusing Emanuel of being antipathetic to the Likudniks was just that famous ‘Jewish sense of humour’ allied with typical Zionist mendacity and deceptiveness.Obummer has been Netanyahu’s flunkey since day one, the Palestinians are still being crucified, Gaza is still besieged, Iran,Lebanon and Syria regularly threatened and the persecution of Israeli Arabs is reaching new depths of depravity.The rulers of the world still pull the strings through their money power, and destroy anyone who gets in their way, through slander, vilification, media assault and political destruction in the West or simple murder if you are an Arab or Moslem ‘two-legged animal’.
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Sun, 30 May 2010 13:22:59 +0000http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=17648#comment-67839DB, some ‘zionists';i.e., land robbers just want a peoples’ land; do much expelling and some murdering and then take a rest or take it easy on robbed people.
And call it leftist peace activism. tnx
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Sun, 30 May 2010 04:11:32 +0000http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=17648#comment-67819Gary Corseri writes …

However, it’s somewhat absurd to fault Avnery for not being radical enough or anti-Zionist enough.

I think it is absurd and downright disgusting not to CONDEMN Avnery and other Liberal Zionists. The soft sell from Liberal Zionists that has been bought by the Left these past 40 years or so has crippled it. It demonstrates that the Left cannot be trusted to adhere to principles of justice and anti-racism. The desires of Liberal Zionist is to gain institutional acceptance of their racist ideology by giving us the “old soft shoe”. Vigilance is needed to build the kind of solidarity needed to challenge Zionism — not the compromising of principles that is endemic on the Left.

“The point of his article above is to highlight the entanglements of the Jewish-American lobby (AIPAC), and Israeli and American politics.”

The point of avnery’s piece was to obfuscate the real entanglements and and waffle on with a load of “feel good” prose that really has little to do with a strategy for any real change. The same point of your commentary supporting this obfuscation, in fact.

Want to prevent another aipac victory in the american elections, vote independent candidates who have explicitly rejected the influence of the zionist lobbies.

]]>By: bozhhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2010/05/a-day-in-november/#comment-67814
Sat, 29 May 2010 23:25:46 +0000http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=17648#comment-67814I no longer read what avneri writes. he apears to behave and think like a ‘zionist’ [means socalled].I.e., against ROR and one state. So, for me, his writings are no longe rof any interest to me. I don’t read any longer what chomsky say either.
In the interest of building an humane societies, the time has come to boycott all land robbers. tnx
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Sat, 29 May 2010 23:14:19 +0000http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=17648#comment-67813For socialism, w.o. which there will never be end to fascism, it is a lot better to blame koreans for attacking koreans than to have world fascist union blaming china for attacking korean ship.

I don’t know why world fascists have not blamed china? Is it that they didn’t think deep enough?
Doing away with n.korea does not profit fascists that much. But doing away with china, wld be deathknell for building a humane society on our planet.

Let us recall that sargon and other mesopotamian kingly gods were also known as the rulers of known world.
Neither bush, nor clinton or obama are known as the rulers of known world, but angelina, brad pitt, clooney, madonna, streissand, netanyahu, liberman 1,2,3,4, and joan rivers might become that +plus be divine like sargon of akkad.
Unfortunately, me being 92, i won’t be there to see it and celebrate it with my god-devil7xy.
U didn’t think, did u, that god 7 x y is all alone out there? tnx

BTW, that damaged ship sure looks as if made of pressed together cardboard, wood chips, and possibly mung beans?

That’s the final solution: fascistic society on all of the planet or governance in hands of world plutos and the rest of us in perpetual servitude. tnx

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Sat, 29 May 2010 23:01:31 +0000http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=17648#comment-67812Usually Corseri’s writing elicites my admiration, but this time alas I find myself more in sympathy with Hayate’s position. My view of Avnery’s role in the political arena is similar to Blankfort’s. Avnery makes a lot of good criticisms but over the years has demonstrated an inability to get to the heart of the matter, thus remains mired in the realm of mythology.

My problems with this particular article however do not arise from his overall stance re the Jewish State or the ZPC, but from his implicit claim to be able to read Obama’s mind and his assumption that US electoral politics works in ways that resemble how it’s discussed in the MSM.
For instance, these two paras:
“AIPAC is blackmailing Obama, and until now it has been successful. It will go on doing so after November. Obama should face up to the idea and decide: no more.

Will he have the courage to do so? I don’t know. I hope.”

In numerous preceding statements Avnery presents as fact his view of a “secret Obama” who has to be forced to do what the ZPC wants him to do, when the record shows that he’s always been more than eager to eat anything the ZPC/Izzy dishes out, his only questions being “where & how much”.
In other words, Avnery has a completely unrealistic notion of how US politics & politicians in general, and Obama in particular, function.
There IS no significant “political contest” going on; it was all decided long ago when they decided to let Obama be Editor of the Harvard Law Review. All else is epilogue, and all punditry, including Avnery’s ESP “kremlin-watching”, is a waste of time.

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Sat, 29 May 2010 21:54:31 +0000http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=17648#comment-67810Uri Avnery certainly does not go so far as Jeffrey Blankfort does (whose article is cited in the comment above) in his condemnation of the Jewish state. However, it’s somewhat absurd to fault Avnery for not being radical enough or anti-Zionist enough. The point of his article above is to highlight the entanglements of the Jewish-American lobby (AIPAC), and Israeli and American politics. Avnery is not providing historical context for the existence of the Zionist state; his focus is on the “So You Think You Can Dance?” approach Netanyahu and Obama are trying to pull off as America barrels into the mid-term elections. Which of these two “leaders” can actually lead; can Obama finally deliver on “change we can believe in,” or will he cave–as so many have since Eisenhower–to Israeli and Jewish lobbyist pressure? Framing these central New World Order relationships in terms of a one or two year window of opportunity–for some significant change–may help focus the attention of the Left and anti-Zionists on what can be done now to prevent another AIPAC victory over the American electorate. Avnery has been an outspoken and incisive critic of the Jewish state for decades. His commentary may n0t be as pungent as some would prefer, but it is salty enough for most American readers and will at least provide entree into the gist of these arguments. Let’s not shoot ourselves in our Left foot and make our zeal for perfectly honed and comprehensive argumentation the enemy of good, sharp critical analysis.
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Sat, 29 May 2010 20:49:04 +0000http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=17648#comment-67805Nice spin on rahm’s visit, averny. Your little spiel provides a bit of misdirection about the rahm visit, like a good little zionist propagandist. You give the boy credibility. The facts are rahm and obama are not hated by the israeli leadership, they are quite well received. Both are playing their assigned role to the letter. What is rogered-rahm-jet doing in apartheid israel? He’s getting briefed on what moves the obama regime needs to take next. The Iran-Turkey-Brazil uranium deal has taken a lot of the wind out of the ziofascist aggression campaign against Iran and you guys need to revise strategy because you now look like mean spirited clowns to even the dullest knives in the drawer. Then there’s also the next falseflag(s) you guys are working on. The one against North Korea is working smoothly (if only those bloody Chinese and Russians would shut up, eh), obviously, you lot wont be letting your main method of propaganda support remain on the sidelines of your aggression against Iran.

Ury averny is one of those zionists who say nice things and appear to be humanists, like simon peres, but reality is he is just another duplicitous used car salesman seling lemons and clunkers to the unwary.

Blankfort wrote a good response to an earlier article this hasbara marketer wrote:

“Hello Uri,

I have just read your response to critics of your opposition to boycotting Israel [1] and, having long ago realized the limits of your activism and worldview, it held no surprises……”

On Rationalizing Israel’s Dispossession of the Palestinians
by Jeffrey Blankfort