I'm actually with her on this one. She's inviting musicians to come up on stage a play along if they like. They don't have to. They don't even have to come to her shows if they don't want to. She's breaking down a barrier between the performer and the audience. I don't really have a problem with that.

Seems like a spin to me. But you have every right to feel like that. I can state the argument that she thinks so little of her music. What if those people make her songs sound really bad. Wouldn't that be even worse?

Ptommydski wrote: She's breaking down a barrier between the performer and the audience.

She's charging the audience and receiving money for her performance, yes? Seems like she left a pretty big barrier in place so she can still collect a check at the end of the night from people on the other side of the barrier.

Ptommydski wrote:I'm actually with her on this one. She's inviting musicians to come up on stage a play along if they like. They don't have to. They don't even have to come to her shows if they don't want to. She's breaking down a barrier between the performer and the audience. I don't really have a problem with that.

If it were a case of "hey, who wants to jump up here for a few songs?", yeah. Making them learn material in advance, attending a rehearsal that afternoon, and playing the whole show? Pay the people a little you tacky shithead.

Luzwei wrote:That woman is a fucking asshole of the grandest proportions.

What's the problem? You don't like the competition for first place?

I'm not even near you, buddy. Not in the same "ballpark" when it comes to being an asshole. Take care.

numberthirty wrote:I'm sure plenty of her fans would pay her for a chance to be in her touring band.

Sure. I'm sure there are always people around who would pay for being up close with their idols or to hang with someone who they think more of than themselves. I just think it's not right but you might have the other opinion.

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Ptommydski wrote:I'm actually with her on this one. She's inviting musicians to come up on stage a play along if they like. They don't have to. They don't even have to come to her shows if they don't want to. She's breaking down a barrier between the performer and the audience. I don't really have a problem with that.

If it were a case of "hey, who wants to jump up here for a few songs?", yeah. Making them learn material in advance, attending a rehearsal that afternoon, and playing the whole show? Pay the people a little you tacky shithead.

Ah, interesting. That does make it a little different.

Having said that if they're fans of her music, they'd presumably really want to do it. I think as long as she gave them free entry to the show that'd be fine. It is voluntary after all. If they don't want to do it, they don't got to.

lemur68 wrote:Countless threads about how it's more noble to play for free, and when it's an artist outside of the PRF canon, suddenly it's a problem.

I smell a strawman!

Dude, if Tar ran a $1.2 million Kickstarter and then asked a bunch of people to just show up and be semi-professional and accompany them orchestra-style, i'm pretty sure most people here would cock their eyes and be all "WTF?"

Stinky Pete wrote:BDSM is a bit like Queens of the Stone Age in that it's basically fine to be into, but a bit worrying if you're obsessed with it.

DrAwkward wrote:Maybe she should start another Kickstarter to pay the part-timers.

this is an excellent idea. i posted it on her blog. and i wonder what the feasibility is of doing it third party? i'm guessing it would violate some kickstarter rules, but it would be pretty awesome if someone was able to get the musicians paid independently of her promotional machine.