I think they may be new but the have a 15hp Kohler 48" gear for 1,999.00

TreffertLawnWrx

03-04-2004, 02:14 PM

Not sure, I also just saw them in the new A.M. Leonard catalog.

impactlandscaping

03-04-2004, 04:20 PM

I saw one last week at a dealer here in town. If you don't have a lot of properties, maybe a good choice for cost efficiency, or one man shows looking to move up in mower size....Not too thrilled about the Briggs engine choice either.You get what you pay for IMO.I bought one of their single wheel sulkies a few years ago, and it didn't hold up well at all.The bearings wear out quickly, and the rim digs in the turf on tight turns.It was about $ 100 less than a Velke, I got what I paid for....

kenslandscaping

03-05-2004, 12:23 AM

We are a dealer for these mowers and so far I have been very impressed. The parts are 85 or 90 percent scag part #'s and are easily crossed refrenced. They are almost identical to the two or three year old bobcat mowers or scags. Good engine choices and GREAT prices.

Ken

chuckwk

03-05-2004, 12:24 AM

Nice website .... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

olderthandirt

03-05-2004, 01:06 AM

Chinese Mowers, chinese quility

Mac

ScagTM

07-29-2014, 10:49 AM

We are a dealer for these mowers and so far I have been very impressed. The parts are 85 or 90 percent scag part #'s and are easily crossed refrenced. They are almost identical to the two or three year old bobcat mowers or scags. Good engine choices and GREAT prices.

Ken

Except Scag mowers are made in the U.S. using U.S. steel, by a company that has the knowledge and experience to build armour for the United States military.
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Mowingman

07-29-2014, 02:15 PM

This brand has been around for 8 to 10 years. Yes, they are built in China. In fact, this brand was one of the first Chinese-made mowers to show up here in the U.S. These mowers are pretty generic, and the same design has been sold under many different names with different engines, paint and decals.
Some brand names include Landscaper Supply, Blackrock Manufacturing, Dixie Chopper, Bradley, and many more that I can not remember.

planetlc

07-29-2014, 03:43 PM

This thread is ten years old...

Mowingman

07-29-2014, 04:12 PM

Ha Ha:dizzy::dizzy:

Armsden&Son

07-29-2014, 11:26 PM

Bradley...

Calling 35 dollar lawns!

herler

07-30-2014, 10:29 AM

Just my thoughts...

I get re-directed to havenerent.com which is Havener Enterprises, a sulky manufacturer.
Seems they suddenly started selling these Bradleys, maybe they acquired them ...
Bradley mowers have been around, just seems they never caught on, and they seem to switch hands every so often.
One might say I don't recall the last thread reviewing or bragging about these mowers.

Not sure, but I can tell you from my own experience with off-brand mowers (by off-brand I mean most anything that isn't your everyday brands you see discussed on these boards) is that parts availability can be a nightmare even for the seasoned cross-referencing systems operator.

Oh, and of course you have to fix it all yourself, anytime it breaks down.

The worst part is that you have to go through the rigmarole every single time, plan on making your own parts list (as in write down which part, where to get it from, the price, what mfg/brand/part number and so on, then keep these lists someplace safe), and you'll probably have to source parts from a good half dozen or more suppliers (like tires from one guy but belts from another, then spindles and bearings).... Probably you even have to draw up your own schematic?

I foresee a serious problem with the hydraulics, you'll really need to be up to par on those systems just to understand where to get those parts from because even seasoned operators usually claim little knowledge in these areas, needless to say your local dealers are likely to be of little help with anything parts or service.

That's been my experience, overall it is probably not worth the thousand dollars saved but it could be a good investment for someone who owns (or plans to own) a fleet of these and has (or plans to have) a service department.

Mowingman

07-30-2014, 11:48 AM

"Seems they suddenly started selling these Bradleys, maybe they acquired them"
No, Havener Ent. has been the importer/distributor/original selle,r of this brand since it first showed up in the U.S.

Patriot Services

07-30-2014, 12:10 PM

Ugliest stander award winner.
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P.A. Landscaping

05-09-2015, 09:31 PM

Bradley mowers are amazing I've had mine for 10 years without having any hydro problems or engine problems

pseudosun

05-09-2015, 09:59 PM

i think they were sold under the "red hawk" brand name. I was thinking about getting the big wheel 24, i think. I need to check the site.

herler

05-10-2015, 08:45 AM

Their 48" Hydro is attractive, as much so because it's built like the old tank mowers (instead of all the new-fangled crap they come out with today)... And for four thousand delivered, I can see one of these in the foreseeable to somewhat distant future.

I mean I'd have to pay just as much (actually, slightly more) for a Toro 48" gear drive (and it's not a true 48" anymore either).
Why would I pay more for less, and then get something that's in actuality a 1/2" wider (you'd be surprised how many gates that 1/2" will prevent it from getting through). It's really annoying when I have the "wrong" mower on my trailer because I FORGOT I have one of the barely 48" wide gated yards on the schedule.
Then I have to either push mow the back yard, because it does take less time than running back to get the "right" mower.
Or try and squeeze the slightly wider deck through and hope I don't do too much damage to the gate.

Ugliest stander award winner.
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That's the thing I think most people forget...
It doesn't have to be pretty. it doesn't need to look good.
It doesn't need a ton of fancy gizmo adjustable do-hickeys either.
It just has to cut grass, that is all it needs to do.

But you can feel free to continue paying 5-6 thousand...
That's what some folks forgot in these last 5-8 years...
What happens when you make mowers fancy and pretty, the price goes up, a lot.
A Bradley stander, 4 thousand.

Give it to me simple, stupid and ugly

PicturePerfectLawns

05-10-2015, 09:00 AM

Their 48" Hydro is attractive, as much so because it's built like the old tank mowers (instead of all the new-fangled crap they come out with today)... And for four thousand delivered, I can see one of these in the foreseeable to somewhat distant future.

I mean I'd have to pay just as much (actually, slightly more) for a Toro 48" gear drive (and it's not a true 48" anymore either).
Why would I pay more for less, and then get something that's in actuality a 1/2" wider (you'd be surprised how many gates that 1/2" will prevent it from getting through). It's really annoying when I have the "wrong" mower on my trailer because I FORGOT I have one of the barely 48" wide gated yards on the schedule.
Then I have to either push mow the back yard, because it does take less time than running back to get the "right" mower.
Or try and squeeze the slightly wider deck through and hope I don't do too much damage to the gate.

That's the thing I think most people forget...
It doesn't have to be pretty. it doesn't need to look good.
It doesn't need a ton of fancy gizmo adjustable do-hickeys either.
It just has to cut grass, that is all it needs to do.

But you can feel free to continue paying 5-6 thousand...
That's what some folks forgot in these last 5-8 years...
What happens when you make mowers fancy and pretty, the price goes up, a lot.
A Bradley stander, 4 thousand.

Give it to me simple, stupid and ugly

I like your thinking on this herler. And something you forgot to mention, with all the "fancy gizmo adjustable do-hickeys" as you refer to it as, :laugh:, that's more stuff to break, repair, and replace in most situations.

pseudosun

05-10-2015, 09:35 AM

quite a few videos on youtube. I would like the 24" for my garden homes. I've had a sarlo 24" before, and it was very efficient. A couple of videos > 48" > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNGMxxFm1cM

24" > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbpHAZrJYcw

AVS Lawns

05-10-2015, 09:40 AM

Yep. I agree. My bunton is an ugly monstrosity of a machine but it cuts and runs like a new machine.
My daughter call it Frankenstein.
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TPendagast

05-10-2015, 12:45 PM

Their 48" Hydro is attractive, as much so because it's built like the old tank mowers (instead of all the new-fangled crap they come out with today)... And for four thousand delivered, I can see one of these in the foreseeable to somewhat distant future.

I mean I'd have to pay just as much (actually, slightly more) for a Toro 48" gear drive (and it's not a true 48" anymore either).
Why would I pay more for less, and then get something that's in actuality a 1/2" wider (you'd be surprised how many gates that 1/2" will prevent it from getting through). It's really annoying when I have the "wrong" mower on my trailer because I FORGOT I have one of the barely 48" wide gated yards on the schedule.
Then I have to either push mow the back yard, because it does take less time than running back to get the "right" mower.
Or try and squeeze the slightly wider deck through and hope I don't do too much damage to the gate.

That's the thing I think most people forget...
It doesn't have to be pretty. it doesn't need to look good.
It doesn't need a ton of fancy gizmo adjustable do-hickeys either.
It just has to cut grass, that is all it needs to do.

But you can feel free to continue paying 5-6 thousand...
That's what some folks forgot in these last 5-8 years...
What happens when you make mowers fancy and pretty, the price goes up, a lot.
A Bradley stander, 4 thousand.

Give it to me simple, stupid and ugly

when i bought my first brand new truck, it was a 1987 Chevy Scottsdale, It was green and 4x4 with a V8. Rolled down my own windows, single cab, rubber floors, vinyl bench seat, automatic with am/fm tape deck.

It was $8,000 out the door.

Is that truck a piece of crap? Will it not do the job?
Or is it missing power windows, door locks, A/C and an eddie bower-eqsue interior?

now you can't get a truck for less than 25 grand out the door and many pay more than that.

If find it interesting how so many guys will get a used older truck to save money, but when it comes to mowers anything less than the best, newest, highest end model, won't do.