abfalter:willfullyobscure: Far, far more common than most people want to talk about, and it goes back a long way. In Victorian-era porn, there's a whole subgenre of this and it was a trope that upper-class women bred and trained large dogs just for this purpose. They were called "coonthounds".

I am sure it was common for the lower class to rumor that the upper class women did this...

Porn of that era was exclusively relegated to the upper classes and the intellectual elite, and interestingly, depictions of sex with lower classes was usually depicted about on a par with sex with animals with one exception. Its actually rarer and apparently more perverted to bang the stablehand than the horse, if you go by the examples given. the exception, of course, was the ladies maids and the femmes de chambres. They were fair game for everyone in that milieu, probably because they were the most intimate of all the lower classes with the upper classes.

But, no, the lower classes certainly had their resentments and their rumours, but that wasn't reflected in the erotica of the time at all. Non factor.

Ima4nic8or:I bet she would actually clean up pretty good. If she could stay off the meth for a week or two the zits would disappear. Wash the hair, get her to drink some water so her lips are not so cracked, then throw on some make up and she wouldn't look half bad.

Without prurient titillation us Farkers would have nothing to do on a slow news day.

Besides, would you complain if the mentally ill person wasn't a more or less attractive young woman? Say if she looked like this (below)?

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To your first point, I agree. I clicked and read.

To the second, my empathy would be the same. I have mental illness and haven't done anything like that before, but I've had panic attacks in public in the days before people videotaped strangers and put it on the Internet. So my empathy is really born out of selfishness. I'd like to think that if I ever freaked out someone would help me rather than further hurt me by causing me to have the trauma of becoming infamous over such a low moment in one's life. I mean think of the issues she needed to work on before this came out. This just adds another layer. It truly doesn't have to do with gender/age in this case.

John Buck 41:The One True TheDavid: FTFA: "Police said she appeared to be on drugs or mentally ill and she told the officers she has bipolar disorder. She didn't know her name, the year or the name of the president, the report said."

I know his name. I just have a hard time believing so many dumb farks REelected him (much less the first time) and that any sane person would think he's doing a good job.

But contrary to what people are saying here, I think she'd clean up nice. A little makeup, a smile, and some nice clothes could do wonders. But regardless no matter what the wrapping looks like, the crazy wouldn't go away.

I bet she would actually clean up pretty good. If she could stay off the meth for a week or two the zits would disappear. Wash the hair, get her to drink some water so her lips are not so cracked, then throw on some make up and she wouldn't look half bad.