The last time I was on PRIME, I was lifting primarily for the purpose of hypertrophy and my gains were phenomenal. My response to PRIME was prevalent on day 1, no saturation period.

I'm already 2 weeks into T-911, so there won't be a need to wait for saturation to occur. I've already experienced strength gains and "unintended" weight gain from the T-911, which speaks volumes.

I already announced that my previous experience with PRIME was intended primarily for physical sculpting, higher reps, higher frequency, and a lot of isolated & single joint movements as per traditional bodybuilding.

OBJECTIVES

Currently, core strength & compound movements are my primary concern. My raw grip strength is sub-par, imo, due to years of over-dependency on wraps and my raw core strength is also sub-par, due to #1. Over-dependency on a weight belt for years and #2. A severe slip disc injury that kept me from performing squats or deads for years, therefore, I'm in severe need of re-establishing my foundations, (I can genuinely bench more then I can squat!).

Currently, I'm performing compound lifts almost exclusively. All my workouts begin with raw squats, raw deads & incline bench as the core and other varying exercise I include are flat bench, standing military and raw shrugs. It's not traditional bodybuilding for the sake of effective sculpting, but my aim is strength, specifically, core strength.

I believe in both of these supplements and have had positive experiences with both, separately. The combination of the two should be fun. I'll need to remind myself to check my ego and not grab my wraps so I can rip on the dead lifts. The hardest challenge for me is to take things slowly and let my questionable lumbar develop appropriately. I made a deal with myself that I won't lift what I can't naturally hold, so we'll see.

So here we go.... no belts, no wraps.

[EDIT: It's the first day and I'll already be breaking stride out of impatience and anticipation.

My recent lifts have been exclusively compound, but as of today, my spinal erectors are not recovered enough to tax, and I really, REALLY want to start lifting today. I plan on hitting back and back alone, so apparently, this will be a mix of both core taxation days and good ole fashion bodybuilding, which I suppose will be of greater interest and relevancy to the general public.]

NOICE!!! I don't know why I'm on this Aussie accent kick. I'm hoping the lethargy won't be as prevalent with me this time, but last time I was using 9 caps a day, 7 days a week and on top of that, I was probably over-training like crazy. My current schedule is conducive to not running my body to the ground, so we'll see how it all works out.

I've done standing in the past. I figured seated would really keep me from cheating with knees as you pointed out, but I can see where that would add in another level of complexity with core strength.

I'm embarrassed to say I had trouble cranking out a full set of 10 with 115 seated.

Stabilizer strength is a real beeznaz, but your strength will pop up quickly. As far as delt muscle fibers and the varying levels of activating motor units are concerned, you're probably pretty strong, so you'll notice as soon as there's some muscle familiarity with stabilizers and balance, you'll start killing it.

It's almost literally impossible that my pecs can produce more force then my legs, but at the moment, due to my inability to develop proper core strength (via slip disc injury), I can genuinely bench more then I can squat, and that's because I'm still working on stabilizers, balance, core.... I'm waiting for that day when squatting doesn't make me shake on the descent or I feel like I'm tipping toward one side (and not because it's heavy). It'll come shortly, I'm a few sessions in already, so I'm close.

Stabilizer strength is a real beeznaz, but your strength will pop up quickly. As far as delt muscle fibers and the varying levels of activating motor units are concerned, you're probably pretty strong, so you'll notice as soon as there's some muscle familiarity with stabilizers and balance, you'll start killing it.

It's almost literally impossible that my pecs can produce more force then my legs, but at the moment, due to my inability to develop proper core strength (via slip disc injury), I can genuinely bench more then I can squat, and that's because I'm still working on stabilizers, balance, core.... I'm waiting for that day when squatting doesn't make me shake on the descent or I feel like I'm tipping toward one side (and not because it's heavy). It'll come shortly, I'm a few sessions in already, so I'm close.

I'm hoping that is the case. On the Military Hammer, I push 2 45s and 1 25 per side... Not saying I should be anywhere near there, but I'd like to get up to at least 135 so I don't look like a weenie.

Subbidge, Prime has interested me for a long time. I agree on the humbling effect of standing, no legs assist press Vol.

nice to have you

I also like a full ROM with the Military, just like the incline bench, I push off the clavicle (area). I don't think you necessarily have to take it that deep, because some people have a legit ROM limitations, whether it be injury or simple joint restriction, but I hate seeing people bringing the bar parallel to the top of the head and then have the nerve to call that a rep.

I'll have to apologize in advance, in the case that I have a ROM rant day. On occasion I'll witness crimes against humanity at the gym where I see people doing vertical over-head triceps presses they call Military's, or worse yet, laying wide grip triceps presses they call a bench press, or twitch reps, like someone tickled their rib & that little reaction was then deemed a rep. That stuff irritates me in an irrational fashion (sometimes) but I think I've reported at least one crimes against humanity that I witnessed at the gym in my previous logs.

Well you know I have been curious about this stack...only problem is there is some banned substances in T-911 and I want to be able to compete naturally this year. Also customs nabbed it when I tried to order it. I guess what I'll do is wait for Jacob's new product. After 10 days on Prime and product X I am significantly leaner and up 3 lbs if you can believe it. I am not getting the monstrous strength gains snag was getting yet, but I am experiencing increased recovery and well unprecedented recomp. I am gaining strength but the routine I am on I'm lucky I can even get through a workout.

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Well you know I have been curious about this stack...only problem is there is some banned substances in T-911 and I want to be able to compete naturally this year. Also customs nabbed it when I tried to order it. I guess what I'll do is wait for Jacob's new product. After 10 days on Prime and product X I am significantly leaner and up 3 lbs if you can believe it. I am not getting the monstrous strength gains snag was getting yet, but I am experiencing increased recovery and well unprecedented recomp. I am gaining strength but the routine I am on I'm lucky I can even get through a workout.

Same here - ever since you suggested it way-back-when in my T-911 log DW, this stack has been mulling in my head.

Glad to see it's finally coming to fruition!

I think I will do something similar when I run prime, only I'll use Formex, as I'm gonna use up the last of the T-911 I have on hand this month.