it wasunderbillclintonwherehe taught 22 million jobs created we had a higher tax rate. i don't think this idea that higher tax rates stopped economic growth. what stopped economic growth is the parties making a difference. we have to come to an agreement and accept the fact that president obama won the election which included the tax increases for the wealthiest americans. >> tell me what you think is fair if we do compromise and taxes are raised he ran on staying howls holds have been make that go money and above will see taxes go up. is that fair? >> no. that is a level that has to move. they are bringing other revenue sources to the table including capping deductions and closing loopholes. that number the president is digging its heels on are where the margin matters and it will effect the job market. the white house will have to give on that point. >> we don't want to see taxes go up for everyone. that tax rate we may see a compromise. with deductions and closing loopholes. >> what do you think we can expect? >> both are agreeing on the same point. we are going to expect somethin

questions about it. when you say people haveaffairs.billclintonwenton and president after the affair. not with an c.i.a. director. the truth is -- >> kimberly: but she sent e-mails, with the allegations threatening e-mails, large number of them and they were from a non- - -- >> juan: i agree but eric says that broadwell's comments shouldn't be -- >> eric: they're not relevant. >> juan: i think they are. kimberly said they were threatening. >> eric: a lot of people -- if the f.b.i. spent their time trying and finding and trying cases of threatening e-mails they would have no time to find terrorists. >> greg: they would be all over dana with what she says. what did you say about my dog? >> kimberly: i'll get you. >> dana: working with greg is the delightful thing. earlier in the first report bret baier said mrs. petraeus is reported to be furious. that might be using -- they might want to look in thesaurus and find a more strong adjective to describe it. i'm sure also they are heart broken. miss broadwell also is married and has two sons. a lot of heartache going here. hard to deal wit

everything.billclinton, lesserscale. tiger woods. that it's shocking to me. >> we've seen the popular, powerful men do this. >> it's shocking to me. still shocking. this is one of the most decorated generals of all time -- >> yeah. >> -- to give that up for an affair. it's astounding. >> planted the flag one too many times. huh. >>> well, anger and frustration are growing for 120,000 homes and businesses in new york and new jersey that still do not have power two weeks after sandy dealt a devastating blow to this area. people demonstrated over the weekend against the long island power authority which still has 100,000,000 customers in the dark. the protesters said along with a slow restoration, they're having trouble even getting basic information from lipa. >>> the airline industry is facing what could turn into the biggest pilot shortage since the vietnam war. starting next summer tougher federal rules will require new hires to have at least 1,500 hours of prior flying time. that's six times the current minimum. also fueling the shortage, thousands of pilots at major u.s. airlines a

but achieves our common goal of balancing a budget.somethingbillclintonandnewt gingrich did in the mid-90s. shannon: are you against closing loop holes? >> i'm in favor of new revenues through economic growth. if you grow the economy at 4% a year, that 4% a year over 2% a year over a decade raises $5 trillion in more revenue. not a tax increase. but revenue through growth. why would you raise taxes when you could debt $5 trillion by cutting marginal tax rates and getting rid of some of the overregulation that obama is threatening the economy with and having more economic growth and more people pat work? that's the better way to raise revenue. it's disingenuous to say both parties have failed. the republicans in the house passed the ryan plan which fundamentally reformed entitlements. it needs the senate and the president to go along with it. but the republicans passed a real budget in writing in legislative form not some essay about what they think might be done which is all the president has done. shannon: paul ryan did win his house seat so he will be back there with the budget committee

'm going to finish. the i'm going to finish.underbillclintonweraised taxes on rich people. saw the biggest economic boom in american history. under george bush we lowered taxes on rich people go into economic ruin. >> this is problem with people with no connection. >> i'm going to i'm going to finish i'm going to finish. so there is not, based on our own experience a direct connection between raising rates and on wealthy people and economy going, going down. in fact the opposite happened. and so you can keep saying it doesn't make it true. rick: go ahead, pete. >> simon you have no experience in the private sector. never run a is business. that is problem when you have policy wonks. >> i run a business, 16 years. nice try, pete. >> solution for america. small businesses are answer here. president has a great opportunity to lead. >> i've been running a small business for 16 years. pete. rick: not everything was decided last tuesday. not everything was settled. we'll continue the conversation. simon and pete, we'll have you back again soon. >> thank you. >> sure. jenna: put your

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