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Re: Noblesse: Chapter 221 Discussion/222 Predictions

From this chapter on, I hope KSA would start to cooperate with Rai, Franky and the rest of the group. Well wouldn't this be interesting, if a part of the Union starts rebelling and would than want to destroy the Union itself ???

I believe this would be perfect cover for Rai and his group to infiltrate the Union, at least partly unnoticed. Union would get destroyed from within, making people under control of all elders individually fight each other and than Rai and his group would be able to find and defeat the enemies !!!

Re: Noblesse: Chapter 221 Discussion/222 Predictions

From this chapter on, I hope KSA would start to cooperate with Rai, Franky and the rest of the group. Well wouldn't this be interesting, if a part of the Union starts rebelling and would than want to destroy the Union itself ???

I believe this would be perfect cover for Rai and his group to infiltrate the Union, at least partly unnoticed. Union would get destroyed from within, making people under control of all elders individually fight each other and than Rai and his group would be able to find and defeat the enemies !!!

That seems to the case. Or so I hope.
Looking at how powerless they are, even Sangeen and Yontsu... That must have been quite a great shock.

Rai's team needs some help too, more or less. With Rai's condition, he shouldn't have gone to battles too much, thus needed more people to cooperate with. Interesting idea infiltrating the Union. Frank and Tao would love that idea, really. XD

Nothing much new, and it is not very reassuring to know the level of strength the Cerberus members have. I hope with whatever information Tao gather could bring them some advantages, because clearly they are in tight position now.

After so, that hit me. They are family. Like, family. Lover. Husband and wife.

Re: Noblesse: Chapter 221 Discussion/222 Predictions

Just read the scanlated chapter.... Husband??!!! Poor M 21, it won't be this time he will grab a girl.... That was the most shocking revelation of the chapter anyway, I feel trolled to have wasted my weeks shipping this couple!

What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpass all others?Whatever you desire.... That is here... Tower of God!

Re: Noblesse: Chapter 221 Discussion/222 Predictions

Nice chapter! And yeah i also was surprised they were married , from how they always talked to each other it was hard to tell they had such deep bonds but well i don't dislike it , i think they make a nice couple .
I'm really glad to see Sangeen made the 1st step towards a cooperation with RK-4 , can't wait to see that annoying big guy from Cerberus go down . Man i really can't stand him much longer , his bossy attitude just pisses me off . I guess i wasn't mistaken when i said he's just all brawn and no brain type of guy , all he can do is throw punches i wonder how the others stand him 'cause from what i see the others are more composed and don't seem to like causing useless disturbances. *sigh* Well except Yuri , he just doesn't seem to care but it's not like i expected much from him anyway

I feel so sorry for Franky seeing him all that worried for Rai . From what he said to Tao it makes me think he will try find a way to help Rai through his research , a way to stabilize him at least until the fight with Cerberus is finished . Poor Rai i hope he gets well soon Things complicated at a crucial time dammit.

Monsterguy
I think it's still too soon for a infiltration into the snakes nest, besides considering Rai's condition i don't think that would be a wise decision after all in the Union there are much stronger guys than Cerberus so this will only complicate things IMO
And a rebellion is highly unlikely , i mean what could be the reason considering the other elders seem to cooperate well with each other with the exception of the 12th elder

Re: Noblesse: Chapter 221 Discussion/222 Predictions

So they were husband and wife? I was not expecting that either - haha. It's also interesting to see how Franky notices the subtle changes in Raizel when other people around have not noticed anything. Poor Rai ~~~

Now we've been given some clue's into the strength of Cerberus. Geez - these guys appear to be pretty close to clan leader strength already. I'm worried a little that RK-4 will have problems with them unless they get stronger. I'm sure Franky will continue to improve them as he is doing so already. Regis needs to go through his coming of age ceremony quickly so he could at-least stand a chance against these guys. He was owned by Krantz after-all.

It was also a nice idea of Sangeen to contact the group, cant wait to find-out what will happen next.

Re: Noblesse: Chapter 221 Discussion/222 Predictions

Looks like this new info about marriage would be a great shock to everyone. I didn't see it coming at all, completely unexpected, especially since they don't seem to be people in relationship. How disappointing.

They can't be lying... right?

Originally Posted by matzik1212

I'm really glad to see Sangeen made the 1st step towards a cooperation with RK-4 , can't wait to see that annoying big guy from Cerberus go down .

It was also rather out of my imagination to see Sangeen to be the one to contact Frank and friends again. All this time we had always seen Yontsu to take the initiative, with Sangeen watching and supporting from behind... I suppose it means he is very depressed of the current situation? :O

Originally Posted by Charlie

Now we've been given some clue's into the strength of Cerberus. Geez - these guys appear to be pretty close to clan leader strength already. I'm worried a little that RK-4 will have problems with them unless they get stronger. I'm sure Franky will continue to improve them as he is doing so already. Regis needs to go through his coming of age ceremony quickly so he could at-least stand a chance against these guys. He was owned by Krantz after-all.

Yeah, and that member didn't even physically touch and hit Sangeen, right? Their power must be that awesome. Yet there must be a weakness. Go go Tao and friends! I also forget that Regis is not yet at the adult age for nobles, eh? I really wish he would soon... and that Gejutel would pass him a soul weapon instead of him fighting with fists and kicks only. >__<

Re: Noblesse: Chapter 221 Discussion/222 Predictions

When Franky said 'personal matters' my first thought was research, but then it hit me he's probably gathering information on the traitors so he can kill them all.
I don't think it's research because I don't believe the Noblesse's fate can be changed by science and that even if it could, Rai would not accept help.

Married? Wow. There's not much young good-looking people in comics who are married, probably because of shippers.

Re: Noblesse: Chapter 221 Discussion/222 Predictions

What the helllllllllll
I'm gonna ship M21xYonsu forever

Anyway, the strenght of Cerberus seems to be higher than I anticipated. Now Franky must be really worried about Rai, as all of us are. I wonder if he's not going to try to keep things away from Rai, maybe even not telling him the truth. And without Rai fighting and possibly Franky trying to keep him away, the fights will be rough.
I can see that again, Rai and Frank will join the fights in the last moments to save someone.... and damn, I'm so worried about Rai.

Originally Posted by natli

When Franky said 'personal matters' my first thought was research, but then it hit me he's probably gathering information on the traitors so he can kill them all.
I don't think it's research because I don't believe the Noblesse's fate can be changed by science and that even if it could, Rai would not accept help.

That would be interesting, and very Frank-likey. But I think he'd want to do that after these troubles are over. Leaving now would put everyone in danger.

Re: Noblesse: Chapter 221 Discussion/222 Predictions

She's totally lying.

I mean, it's possible that this is pairing denial talking but... neither of them have wedding rings(though it's hard to be sure since they both wear gloves a lot), they have different last names, and they have always kept it very professional during their entire time in the manhwa. It just seems more likely to me that she said they were married because she knew that would smooth things over, which it did.

Re: Noblesse: Chapter 221 Discussion/222 Predictions

Well, poor M-21, I thought M-21 finally encountered a girl that could be a match for him, yet now she is already taken...

Originally Posted by matzik1212

Monsterguy
I think it's still too soon for a infiltration into the snakes nest, besides considering Rai's condition i don't think that would be a wise decision after all in the Union there are much stronger guys than Cerberus so this will only complicate things IMO
And a rebellion is highly unlikely , i mean what could be the reason considering the other elders seem to cooperate well with each other with the exception of the 12th elder

Actualy my idea was based on behalf of Rai and his well being !!!

I was thinking that people employed in Union, as any normal workers, must have at least some grudges against his/her supirior (either if a supirior once gived to a normal worker a job which he/she would hate [like killing a friend], or small salery,...), or even some grudge among coworkers.

Giving people like that "an opportunity" to fight back, I believe it is a given that they will take it, and start a rebellion within Union !!!

In all confusion the Union would still need humans to work for them, so they would have to relly on KSA and similar (remember the elders from the Union suspect that an outsider like a Noble person aka vampire is hiding in this place, so suspecting KSA right now is out of the question), who were always most reliable untill now.

This would mean for Rai and his team (if working with KSA) "a need" to go only in "1" battle, and defeating all enemys at once (Rai needs to go in battle only once !!!), but if even elders from the Union start to fight each other (remember they had grudges against each other before, and had to "swallow it" or simply forget it for the time being), than "a win is a must".

Oh, and just a quick plan how to do something like this:

Rai's team connects with KSA agents and makes a disturbance

send Takeo, Tao and M-21 as decoy, and the team needs to retreat soon

let Cerberus contact the Union people that they found some powerful enemys

send KSA agents together with Takeo, Tao and M-21 on decoy again

Union now fully focused in destroying the enemy with all the millitary gets weekened fighting against second decoy team, also rebbelion in Union starts

elders from the Union appear on battelfield and see Seira and Regis (a noble people) who joined the battle on the time the elders from the Union came. They would want to defeat Sera and Regis and than also capture them.

Frank and Rai come on the battlefield before any of our main heroes right now is killed

That seems to the case. Or so I hope.
Looking at how powerless they are, even Sangeen and Yontsu... That must have been quite a great shock.

Rai's team needs some help too, more or less. With Rai's condition, he shouldn't have gone to battles too much, thus needed more people to cooperate with. Interesting idea infiltrating the Union. Frank and Tao would love that idea, really. XD

This was only my "fast thinking", but who knows what might happen next in the story...

Yah, I believe Rai would have to appear on battle field at least once, and at that time his entrance should be overhelming.

To me the story development, and if it's a movie/manhwa/manga/anime than also ilustrated pictures (background and characters) are really important. I love to read and watch such storys, the most !!!

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Re: Noblesse: Chapter 221 Discussion/222 Predictions

You know after thinking it over a bit, I still think she was totally lying, but I think it would be better if they were actually married. I've been of the opinion that Sangeen is gonna die now for quite some time but imagine the added impact of Yontsu being made a widow. It gets all that emontional impact, plus it leaves things open for M-21 to become Yontsu's second husband down the road. Everybody wins.....except Sangeen of course.

Re: Noblesse: Chapter 221 Discussion/222 Predictions

Goddammit Yontsu's not single..hum,I mean Hi guys

Originally Posted by Jammin

She's totally lying.

I mean, it's possible that this is pairing denial talking but... neither of them have wedding rings(though it's hard to be sure since they both wear gloves a lot), they have different last names, and they have always kept it very professional during their entire time in the manhwa. It just seems more likely to me that she said they were married because she knew that would smooth things over, which it did.

Agreed,she used this justication so the Cerberus goons let the insubordination Slide

of course it's hypothetical,I think phio predicted a one sided love a while back,it's on its way to come true,M21 may fall for her one way or another