I'm renting a vehicle for work (I'm waiting for my new company car - 08 grand cherokee) and was able to rent an 08 H3 for the price of an envoy.

I have to say that these vehicle are nothing alike. First, you cannot see out of the H3 - I mean, at all. the windows are so tiny you have no idea what's going on around you. My wife said "it feels like you're in a coffin . . . ".

Second, I was surprised how mush harsher the ride is. It seems to bounce quite a bit where as the jk is rough, but seems to absorb the shock better.

The motor is strong but the auto tranny sucks . . . I have never driven an auto jk so I have no comparison, but the H3 shifts real hard and jerks on hard accelleration.

I only did a couple light trails near my home, but the H3 moves OK, you just cannot see anything - rocks, ruts, trees - nothing - you just have to guess and pray. With the JK I can see much more (esp with the top off).

Today we packed up the kids and took the JK for a cruise with the top off and - as we were cruising down the road my wife an I looked at each other and smiled - there is nothing like a jeep. :-)

I wouldn't take it as far as "P.O.S.". It may be in the respect of a trail vehicle. But any person who has a clue about a real 4wd vehicle would know the H3 is inferior to a Jeep. If you are looking "trail ready" mall crawler and have no intentions of taking it on a trail, or even over a curb the H3 may be rite up your alley.

For starters the H3 has leaf springs as opposed to coil springs. This really cuts down the articulation of the vehicle. The H3 also does not offer a front and rear locker option. There are other things that are inferior to the Jeep But in all honesty, its just a colorado with a different body. Just like the H2 is a suburban.

IMO, I don't like the H3. I feel it is inferior in almost every category. On the other hand, I do find it funny how people think the H3 (or H2) is superior to a Jeep in every way. Its funny how a badge can sway people's decision.

I wouldn't take it as far as "P.O.S.". It may be in the respect of a trail vehicle. But any person who has a clue about a real 4wd vehicle would know the H3 is inferior to a Jeep. If you are looking "trail ready" mall crawler and have no intentions of taking it on a trail, or even over a curb the H3 may be rite up your alley.

For starters the H3 has leaf springs as opposed to coil springs. This really cuts down the articulation of the vehicle. The H3 also does not offer a front and rear locker option. There are other things that are inferior to the Jeep But in all honesty, its just a colorado with a different body. Just like the H2 is a suburban.

IMO, I don't like the H3. I feel it is inferior in almost every category. On the other hand, I do find it funny how people think the H3 (or H2) is superior to a Jeep in every way. Its funny how a badge can sway people's decision.

Yea, for some reason people confused "Hummers" with "Humvees"

A hummer is not a freaking Humvee. A humvee is more comparable to a Jeep, I think... maybe. What do I know? I hate those big boxes on frames...

Well I wasn't going to mention this, it was so freaking hilarous. I watched a hummer drive pass me on the toughest beach I ever seen. He started to slow down. To a stop. Tires dug in... buried. I had to laugh. I couldn't even go help them I was just laughing. He even had big tires on it. I don't even know how he got stuck, he was right in the middle of the tracks on the beach. It was a good laugh. I was going to take a video with my new HIGH DEF digital camera, but I was like you know.. that just isn't right. I pretended not to look and watch but it was hard. Considering I was making my OWN tracks in the tough stuff (more fun) trying to scare my dad.. he's not into the whole Jeep thing yet and thinks a jeep can get stuck on a beach (he's been stuck in non jeep vehicles)

Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing.- Helen Keller

I would bet that hummer forums do the same bashinng that goes on with jeep forums, but I would also bet that hummers don't spend half their life in the shop because of stupid warranty work. I would also bet they don't fill up with water when it rains. Ya'll might want to rethink what the definition of a POS is.