An LS-55 spring magically fixes the JLF for me. It also turns into a solid stick for shmups. It was an obscure reference I caught in another post. I'm guessing most people would call it too tight. It's tighter than both my LS-32 and LS-56. Has anyone else tried this? Thoughts?

The LB-45 (large balltop) is insanely huge. I'd be curious to know if anyone regularly uses one and how you grip it. I had to use the 'grip of doom' which is the equivalent of shifting a gear on a manual transmission.

The LB-30 (small balltop) is comical looking but I actually liked the thing. It feels like it gives you extra precision in shmups. I left it on my LS-32 for now. It's a little too clumsy to use for fighters.

An LS-55 spring magically fixes the JLF for me. It also turns into a solid stick for shmups. It was an obscure reference I caught in another post. I'm guessing most people would call it too tight. It's tighter than both my LS-32 and LS-56. Has anyone else tried this? Thoughts?

i'm thinking about getting the ls-55 spring into my madcatz SE stick that i ghetto modded with happ switches :rofl:

i just got done wiring my HRAP 3. i had to solder the wires to my happ switches and i guess i inhaled too much solder fumes. i''m dizzy as fuck :rolf: lucky me i was using lead free solder.

I'm still a giant advocate of the LS-32 myself. I threw in an LS-32 spring into my own ASCII Answer and it feels just plain old right. Seimitsu's LS-32/LS-40 spring feels as if it were custom made for me! :lovin:

Kyle, I know what you mean; the LB-45 is HUGE. When I first saw one on my friend's custom, I thought for a second he commissioned Numbski to make him a custom ball-top from a pool ball, it was so huge! I couldn't even gearshift knob the thing since I've got really small girl hands and it's uncomfortable for me to grip it like that. I can't reach around enough of the ball-top to get a comfortable grip!

I have yet to try the LB-30 ball-tops though. I'd definitely like to try one though; they're deceptively cute! I only wish they made them in more designs besides just the standard colors. It'd be really cool to see a LB-30-M MeshBall!

Anyways, does anyone besides me find that authentic American joysticks look insanely awesome? For some reason, I like the way American stick designs look over Japanese design, even though I myself play on nothing but Japanese parts. There's something about an American stick that makes it stand out and be awesome. Is it the straight, 2 by 3 layout? Is it the perfect centering of the joystick in these designs? Is it the concave buttons, the 1, 2, 3, 4 player buttons? I dunno, they just look absolutely fantastic!

Anyways, does anyone besides me find that authentic American joysticks look insanely awesome? For some reason, I like the way American stick designs look over Japanese design, even though I myself play on nothing but Japanese parts. There's something about an American stick that makes it stand out and be awesome. Is it the straight, 2 by 3 layout? Is it the perfect centering of the joystick in these designs? Is it the concave buttons, the 1, 2, 3, 4 player buttons? I dunno, they just look absolutely fantastic!

I'm the opposite, I love the curved layout of the Japanese design. To me, the American layout looks stiff in comparison. Off course, those 15 or so years of playing on Japanese parts leads to a bit of bias.

For me, SF4 got fighting games backward - combos are supposed to be easy and reversals are supposed to be hard.-Mike_Z

Anyways, does anyone besides me find that authentic American joysticks look insanely awesome? For some reason, I like the way American stick designs look over Japanese design, even though I myself play on nothing but Japanese parts. There's something about an American stick that makes it stand out and be awesome. Is it the straight, 2 by 3 layout? Is it the perfect centering of the joystick in these designs? Is it the concave buttons, the 1, 2, 3, 4 player buttons? I dunno, they just look absolutely fantastic!

I add an LS-32 spring on top of my JLF ones because I'm quite heavy handed. It makes them perfect for me.

I bought a 45mm bubble top and a 30mm top to see how different they were. I put the 30mm one on my Namco stick and somehow it just seems to fit the stick, I guess because it's so compact.

The 45mm however... I've been dying to use it but it really is too heavy! I've got it on a stick that I built recently, using the stock stick that I had left over from modding my Agetec. I even put another spring in it to try and compensate for the drastic throw, but it's still too weighty and spongey, you'd probably have to get an elevator spring in there to make it useable.

top: sanwa obsf/n 30, ps-14g. these are easily the best buttons i've used so far. i rank them highly because its super easy to slide from hp to lp and back. the only downside is that the sanwa are too sensitive at times and the ps-14g are a bit loud.

middle: happ convex and concave.

they much more sturdier than the japanese buttons but also too tall to mount on small joysticks. also its not as soft as the obsf and ps14g (more resistance). i love their concave buttons over the convex buttons. i might be the only guy here that does

low: ps14 gn and its kn counter part, crown cwb 203c. too much resistance. it not good for mashing or sliding buttons with your fingers. the edges of the crown buttons are a bit sharp.

bottom: happ ultimate. avoid at all cost.

i havent tried out the ps-15 or ps-14p yet.

ssf4ae tier list regarding Gen:

D Proto: and where is Gen?
oORYUOo: you cannot tier what you cannot see

Is it wrong that I'm drawn more to that copy of Ys for the TurboGraphx CD than to the stick?

You're not the only one :[ I actually spent more time seeing if I could tell what was under Ys.

I recently switched my SE stick to an LS-32-01, and I absolutely love it compared to the Sanwa JFL, which gets me to thinking- should I look into other Semitsu sticks, or is the 32-01 really the standard

You're not the only one :[ I actually spent more time seeing if I could tell what was under Ys.

I recently switched my SE stick to an LS-32-01, and I absolutely love it compared to the Sanwa JFL, which gets me to thinking- should I look into other Semitsu sticks, or is the 32-01 really the standard

A quick history of my joystick use. Started off with a JLW with a 45mm balltop and later added a beefier spring.
Next was the LS-33. I loved its compact design and short throw. A stronger spring makes it great.
Then I used the LS-40 followed by the LS-32. Now it's the "LS-36" (thanks Ikagi-chan) which is probably as close to perfect for me as I am going to get.
All that to say, I never really used the JLF. I put it in a lot of people's sticks but never in one of my own. So I decided the other day to use one for a while...
I suppose there is nothing inherently wrong with the JLF but I still began to feel guilty for putting it in so many sticks that I have sold.
I thought to myself, "Is this what I have been subjecting people to?"
I mean, so many people claim to like it and think it is the joystick standard but seriously!
Just to bring it up to par you have to mod the heck out of it when you could have just saved yourself the trouble
and bought an LS-32...or a 40....or a 33...or any Seimitsu joystick really.
I guess to be fair I should say that the Seimitsu aren't what I would call perfect either;
The 32 has a fat shaft, the 40 wears out too quickly, and the 33 has the softest spring ever.
But I would gladly take any of those over a JLF...at this point. I'm going to leave it in my stick for now
and put some serious time into it. Maybe I am missing something.

Only if Sanwa decides to make the Flash again. One day, Sanwa, One day...

Whenever I use my ls-56, it takes about 10 minutes for me to get use to everytime. I do love the stiff-ness and it feels great, but it is a bit too sensitive for me especially when I'm trying to do some footsies and end up jumping on either sides.

I can't wait to give the ls-33 with the ls-56 spring a try whenever I receive my case from someone I've been waiting for.

I"ve yet to try a Semeitsu stick. I grew up on Happ sticks and american layouts. For my first custom, I used a iL competition with old school happ concave buttons. However, the case had the astro city layout. It took a while to get used to it, but I quite like it now. My fingers really do fall in that direction, especially the pinky finger. My current project I'm putting together has a JLW with a circle gate, which seems like a decent compromise. For me, the JLF just feels too loose. I'm sure with some practice I could get used to it, but I haven't ben to an arcade or any tourneys yet, so I never bothered. And if I could go to a tourney I'd see if I could bring my own stick, for sure...

Seeing how I grew up on american cabs, I'm used to bat tops as well. I recently ordered a white bat top for the JLW that I plan on dying yellow (since a stock yellow seems impossible to find). Since I have the thick shaft (no pun intended) JLW, I can switch between the bat and teh ball top with no problem.

Haha, I kinda find this amusing. Didn't we have a thread about a month back about how "overrated" the LS-32 was? We're doing that with the JLF now! Although, I can see why people would want a JLF and Sanwa buttons. The loose movement and super sensitive buttons translate from thinking to doing very quickly.

My favourite stock stick has to be the LS-32. The dead zone area is the only thing that kinda irks me. Besides that, it's a great stick for both fighters and SHMUPs.

<Toodles> Seven boards assembled. All popped in and tested. All seven with the IC soldered on backwards.

My cheapo Saturn Virtua Stick came in the mail today. I had one of these things a million years ago when the Saturn was around. I'm not sure what it's trying to copy but I want some more non-microswitch sticks. The only sound the stick produces is a slight pop when it hard returns to center.

I hooked it up to my Saturn to PS2 converter and then used an Xconverter 360 to get it on the 360. It's a badass stick for shmups. HDRemix was a little iffy (it's very stiff). Coincidentally the balltop is somewhere between the LB-35 and LB-45. The thread was standard so a normal ball top screwed right on.

I don't know what it is with you guys and the JLF. It's not that LOOSE, I mean, compared to some sticks, it feels fine. Need that loose feeling so I can pull 360's on a square. But I prefer the LS-32 without the subgate.

Ok here?s the deal. I want a stick for tatsunoko vs capcom but I don?t want to make a custom stick right now. All I want is a quick mod, be it the hori wii stick or the new wii se, the JLF is too soft for my liking. I?m an iL stiffness kind of guy. So my question is, witch ever stick I end up buying, what spring can I throw into a JLF to closely resemble the iL euroJoystick?

Charlie, I think the closest you can get to that iL would be a JLW. Not sure if any spring will make a JLF feel that stiff. However, I could be wrong (and I'm sure someone will tell me!). I think with the small mounting plate the JLW offers (the big one is standard) it may mount up where a jlf does. Don't even quote me on if the height will be correct though.

Ok heres the deal. I want a stick for tatsunoko vs capcom but I dont want to make a custom stick right now. All I want is a quick mod, be it the hori wii stick or the new wii se, the JLF is too soft for my liking. Im an iL stiffness kind of guy. So my question is, witch ever stick I end up buying, what spring can I throw into a JLF to closely resemble the iL euroJoystick?

An LS-55 spring will get you close. It is really damned tight like an iL stick. If you combine it with the original JLF spring it's supposedly even harder. I didn't go that far with it.

I think optical sticks are way overrated and I vastly prefer a clicky JLF to a Flash.
The sticks in the AES stick are very cool; uber short throw, small shaft and ball (hurr hurr) and for reason is kinda comfy. I think I'll put in an RJ-45 jack and MC Cthulhu in when I mod my last AES stick; For some reason, I like the idea of playing TvC on it.
I hate the original AES buttons with a passion. The slope of the stick is sorta weird but tolerable.
I hate working on PSX code in my boards because one small tweak in one spot will cause the whole things to shit the bed. It's like I have to follow and uber specific recipe where one teaspoon of salt gives you cake, and 1.01 teaspoon of salt gives you crabs.

I think optical sticks are way overrated and I vastly prefer a clicky JLF to a Flash.
The sticks in the AES stick are very cool; uber short throw, small shaft and ball (hurr hurr) and for reason is kinda comfy. I think I'll put in an RJ-45 jack and MC Cthulhu in when I mod my last AES stick; For some reason, I like the idea of playing TvC on it.
I hate the original AES buttons with a passion. The slope of the stick is sorta weird but tolerable.

I've been wanting to get the PS2 version of the AES stick for a while. When I see them they're overpriced compared to the PS3 and Wii versions.

top: sanwa obsf/n 30, ps-14g. these are easily the best buttons i've used so far. i rank them highly because its super easy to slide from hp to lp and back. the only downside is that the sanwa are too sensitive at times and the ps-14g are a bit loud.

Trying out the PS-14gs. Only like them for MvC2 right now, but prefer Sanwas for anything else. Going to give it more time before I completely write them off.