San Francisco is definitely better. Helvetica Neue was always just a bad interims solution for the iOS 7 redesign.

Although, as a typographer who worked close to industrial designers at university, i wasn’t really surprised Jony Ives Team chose Helvetica, because most Industrial Designers know only a handful of fonts and default to Helvetica because it looks reasonably timeless and neutral to them. It’s really reassuring about Apples design team that they took the multiyear-path of developing their own modern font-family fit for the purpose. I think Erik Spiekermann really did have a little influence on Jony Ive to get SF ready and into the system so soon. Besides the fact that it would have been really hard to get Helvetica Neue working on the Apple watch at small, glanceable font sizes.

San Francisco is definitely better. Helvetica Neue was always just a bad interims solution for the iOS 7 redesign.

Although, as a typographer who worked close to industrial designers at university, i wasn’t really surprised Jony Ives Team chose Helvetica, because most Industrial Designers know only a handful of fonts and default to Helvetica because it looks reasonably timeless and neutral to them. It’s really reassuring about Apples design team that they took the multiyear-path of developing their own modern font-family fit for the purpose. I think Erik Spiekermann really did have a little influence on Jony Ive to get SF ready and into the system so soon. Besides the fact that it would have been really hard to get Helvetica Neue working on the Apple watch at small, glanceable font sizes.

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Even SF Compact (Watch) and SF (OS X/iOS) are noticeably different. When you change Helvetica that much so that it works well on smaller screens, you are changing the character of the typeface itself. Helvetica was never meant to be a multipurpose UI typeface. It’s been misused, just like Verdana is (which really shines at small sizes).

Even SF Compact (Watch) and SF (OS X/iOS) are noticeably different. When you change Helvetica that much so that it works well on smaller screens, you are changing the character of the typeface itself. Helvetica was never meant to be a multipurpose UI typeface. It’s been misused, just like Verdana is (which really shines at small sizes).

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Exactly. Good fonts have lots of different cuts (not sure if this is the correct english translation) for different purposes. Apple did a very good job with the different sizes of SF, instead of just scaling the glyphs.

Helvetica Neue has more class, style, refinement. However, for reading definitely San Francisco because is more spaced between each letter. But lacks of some design, class. The € symbol in San Francisco looks weird.

But I thought Helvetica Neue is a lot more stylish, simple, efficient, and less obstrusive after a while.

What do you guys think?

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I have the same opinion about the previous font. This one may be easier to read as there is more space in between letters, but the previous is way more stylish. I think it's a matter of time anyway. It's not a Comis Sans :-D

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