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5050OMG! My daughter has gone to ISIS!http://www.praize.com/forums/Apologetics_C2/Islam_Debate_F6/OMG!_My_daughter_has_gone_to_ISIS!_P121130/?page=unread#121130
You all saw the video on TV of those three girls leaving England to go join Isis.
I remember when I was their age. I was a junior in colllege in Ohio. My best friend and I were talking about movint to Texas and living with family she had there. THAT was our big escape plan. Oh, how far we have fallen that now girls go to college to prepare to kill and main. Heart rending! What if that was your daughter?
And then we have that clip on TV from Saturday Night Live where the father is dropping his daughter off and she gets in a truck full of militants. How are we raising our kids these days? Do I blame the parents? How much blame can go to them? How about the school? God is no longer in the schools, remember? And where is God in all of this? How much worse will it get (how many more will lose their lives) before it is over?
How does something like this end?
Blessings ~ Sarah5de552093862c94a9636ae3141905708Mar 3, 2015, 7:22 AMRe: [Probiblos1962] The Theory of Evolutionhttp://www.praize.com/forums/General_C76/General_Topics_F74/Re%3A_%5BProbiblos1962%5D_The_Theory_of_Evolution_P121129/?page=unread#121129
Hi Allen.
Well...what does it mean to you? Are we going to get into genetics here? I will need to brush up on some facts before I start making statements...or at least get the correct spelling of words.
I do hope it is not snowing come next week for everybody! Can Spring be far away? What is up with that groundhog!!?? Such wild swings of climate here where I am. Frozen ground and six inches of snow and ice and four days later temps in the high 50s with rain and right back to freezing snow again.
What a mess!
-Jeanne
&quot;The Ox is slow, but the Earth is patient.&quot;0340c3fb7a4879a8174b8a5c73a7c9caMar 2, 2015, 12:57 PMRe: [praizeop2] The Theory of Evolutionhttp://www.praize.com/forums/General_C76/General_Topics_F74/Re%3A_%5Bpraizeop2%5D_The_Theory_of_Evolution_P121128/?page=unread#121128
Hi Sarah.
I don't &quot;expect&quot; you to believe anything about evolution. This is what I believe about how all life forms developed from single-celled life eons ago, because I accept the theory of evolution. It is possible that there was a Creator Deity, who sparked life into non-life material, but I do not believe that it is probable. Either way, I do accept the scientific theory of how species evolved from that life form.
And...yes, I accept that humans are cousins of the Gorilla, Chimpanzee and Orangutan. The genetic make-up of all life is very similar, but these are our closest relatives on the evolutionary tree. I accept the descent of humans from that ape, which first branched away from these cousins.
But...I do not &quot;expect&quot; you to believe that just as you do not &quot;expect&quot; me to believe in a Creator Deity.
I know that some believers can accept evolution for the so-called lower life forms, but cannot accept the same for humans. And...whatever makes sense to them, that is okay by me. I know some believers absolutely believe that God creates each and every snowflake, let alone each and every life form. Again...whatever makes sense to them is okay with me.
Each person has to deal with their own beliefs. All we have to do is live in some sort of harmony. I might wonder greatly how some could hold such a different viewpoint than I do, but as long as we agree to disagree and neither group attempts to out-law the others viewpoint and neither group threatens the safety and sanity of the other...then it can all just roll along in a mixed-up harmonious mess, as far as I care.
There are more important threats to humanity than whether or not one accepts evolution, however interesting it is to discuss.
If my surgeon does not accept evolution, it should not cause me to fear to have him or her operate on me. If my president does not accept evolution, it should not cause me to fear that he or she is an incompetent ideologue, who will drive the globe into a third world war.
My children's AP Biology teacher neither accepted the theory or evolution, nor deigned to teach it in her class, but my kids all accept the theory and understand it as well as any college educated person might ....despite the fact that the teacher pooh-poohed the idea of evolution. I suspect most people in my small town do not accept the theory of evolution, but life goes on just the same.
I even give credence to a little accepted theory of human descent, that being the return of humans to the sea for a long time...long only to human descent, short when considering the whole of evolution.
Not long enough to develop gills, that is. Still...a million or so years is still a short time even over human evolution.
Gills....too cool, huh?
-Jeanne
&quot;The Ox is slow, but the Earth is patient.&quot;2c7a74c6e51b8dc9681b9751a7750b16Mar 2, 2015, 12:50 PMRe: [jeanne53] The Theory of Evolutionhttp://www.praize.com/forums/General_C76/General_Topics_F74/Re%3A_%5Bjeanne53%5D_The_Theory_of_Evolution_P121127/?page=unread#121127
You hit the nail on the head with the second point Jeanne. I disagree. As for the first: What does &quot;descent with modification&quot; refer to?3b0783a15490b7a90912c674697c2a2dMar 1, 2015, 6:57 PMRe: [jeanne53] The Theory of Evolutionhttp://www.praize.com/forums/General_C76/General_Topics_F74/Re%3A_%5Bjeanne53%5D_The_Theory_of_Evolution_P121125/?page=unread#121125
You were right, Jeanne, when you said that this probably belongs in a Debates forum. However,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I am going to let it continue here since there is nothing else going on right now. And it certainly DOES need to continue. We cannot leave it at the point where you expect us to believe that a single cell in a pond trillions of years ago eventually turned into Sarah, PraizeOP2 as well as everyone else who ever was, is, or will be in the universe. That is WAY more than I can comprehend.
So let's see what some other folks have to say.
Blessings ~ Sarah37f4ee6453cc5508534aa245dd4db730Feb 28, 2015, 9:43 AMRe: [Probiblos1962] The Theory of Evolutionhttp://www.praize.com/forums/General_C76/General_Topics_F74/Re%3A_%5BProbiblos1962%5D_The_Theory_of_Evolution_P121124/?page=unread#121124
Hi Allen.
You write:
&lt;&lt;&quot;Biological evolution, simply put, is descent with modification. This definition encompasses small-scale evolution (changes in gene frequency in a population from one generation to the next) and large-scale evolution (the descent of different species from a common ancestor over many generations). Evolution helps us to understand the history of life.&quot; &gt;&gt;
I can agree with that simple definition. Can you?
&lt;&lt;&quot;The central idea of biological evolution is that all life on Earth shares a common ancestor, just as you and your cousins share a common grandmother.
Through the process of descent with modification, the common ancestor of life on Earth gave rise to the fantastic diversity that we see documented in the fossil record and around us today. Evolution means that we're all distant cousins: humans and oak trees, hummingbirds and whales.&quot;&gt;&gt;
This I doubt you can agree with, Allen. Am I correct?
I suspect that there were more than just one common ancestor, that is, that more than just one single-celled life form evolved in more than one place and time. But...possibly not. The first single-cell that had RNA and possibly DNA spawned all possibilities of life. Yes, I agree with that. This newly formed life could have been nudged into being by a Creator Deity or some other source that affected the materials at hand. I agree with that, as well.
Take the essentials and tweak them into anything...that is what evolution describes. It is all there...genetics explains how the tweaking happens. Yes, we all owe our existence to a single-celled individual who lived in a pond a long, long, long, long time ago. Despite the fact that our planet is anything but hospitable, life managed to find a way and is still doing so.
-Jeanne
&quot;The Ox is slow, but the Earth is patient.&quot;be0a818e0adcd525e6b36c63ee6e4467Feb 27, 2015, 12:37 PMRe: [rdrcofe] The Theory of Evolutionhttp://www.praize.com/forums/General_C76/General_Topics_F74/Re%3A_%5Brdrcofe%5D_The_Theory_of_Evolution_P121123/?page=unread#121123
Hello all.
Well...blue eyes come along with lighter skin because of less melanin content. Melanin is more concentrated in those that are exposed to more sunlight...so dark skin, dark eyes in the incubator of humanity. As humans moved way farther North, we needed to adapt to less sunlight in order to get the Vitamin D our bodies needed. So there was a time when lighter or darker was an inherited natural advantage.
- Jeanne
&quot;The Ox is slow, but the Earth is patient.&quot;c89053d23098cf3b08974fe222263ff4Feb 27, 2015, 12:22 PMRe: [rdrcofe] The Theory of Evolutionhttp://www.praize.com/forums/General_C76/General_Topics_F74/Re%3A_%5Brdrcofe%5D_The_Theory_of_Evolution_P121122/?page=unread#121122
Chris, you are a riot! I really have no response except that I will continue to try to toss out small one-liners that enable you to educate us on the less-known facts of life. You make life delightful!
Blessings ~ Sarah69c5d40ad05cfcb9fbc805b9f8fa96a5Feb 27, 2015, 10:52 AMRe: [praizeop2] The Theory of Evolutionhttp://www.praize.com/forums/General_C76/General_Topics_F74/Re%3A_%5Bpraizeop2%5D_The_Theory_of_Evolution_P121121/?page=unread#121121
Sarah: Hi.
would you say, then, that biological evolution is why my sister has blue eyes and I have brown?... just thinkin'. :)
Thinking is good for the species. We don't do enough of it. Keep it up Sarah and show us all a good example.
The answer to your question though is no! What you are talking about there is mere genetic diversity. What colour eyes are usually carries no inherited natural advantage over competitors, so is unlikely to result in long term evolutionary change.
If however your eyes were particularly good at night vision, and the mutated gene responsible could be passed to your offspring so that they too could see at night significantly better than others without that genetic inheritance, then there would be a possibility that, given an environment where enhanced night vision offered a competitive advantage over poor night vision, and also after many successful surviving and breeding generations, your ancestors might become nocturnal in their habits and be on the way to becoming a sub species of human who could do needlework at night, or prefer to work night shifts. i.e become nocturnal like Bats, lorises etc. (Not that they do needlework or night shifts).
The Slender Loris. This miniature, saucer eyed primate appears to be wearing permanent jam-jar-bottom spectacles. It gets its name, though, from its exceptionally long, thin limbs. Its soft thick fur is grey to reddish-brown on top and whitish grey-below.
The slender loris is endemic to Sri Lanka, where it inhabits a variety of native forests. The lowland race (L. t. tardigradus) lives in the arid lowlands of the north and southeast, while the highland race (L. t. nycticeboides) frequents wet montane regions in the central highlands.
Unlike most nocturnal primates, the slender loris enjoys company. Groups sleep huddled together by day in the tree tops. After dark they head out separately in search of food. This little creature shows great speed and agility in capturing insects, helped by the built in night vision of its huge eyes. Other food includes gum, berries and birds eggs.
Hope you wanted to know that.
Love Chris.d9d1427cefc9146a2faef6a2beb482f2Feb 27, 2015, 10:18 AMRe: [praizeop2] The Theory of Evolutionhttp://www.praize.com/forums/General_C76/General_Topics_F74/Re%3A_%5Bpraizeop2%5D_The_Theory_of_Evolution_P121120/?page=unread#121120
An interesting thought but, I wold say that this is a genetic variation within the species. Both of you are still human, the eyes perform the same function regardless of their color and no real forward progress towards a different species has been found. Wouldn't you say that it would be a dull world if we all looked alike? Of course there would be male and female but, what a mess it would be if every woman looked the same as my wife. How would I be able to find her at the checkout counter? (We always look at different things in WalMart). Your taste for simplicity would be totally gone. Thank you for your input Sarah.
By the way, I love you as my sister in Christ and am praying and trying to recruit for Praize. I pray for the site and for you daily.
God bless,
Allenb7e1091b9f4faef467407f2549f533f8Feb 26, 2015, 11:23 PMRe: [Probiblos1962] The Theory of Evolutionhttp://www.praize.com/forums/General_C76/General_Topics_F74/Re%3A_%5BProbiblos1962%5D_The_Theory_of_Evolution_P121119/?page=unread#121119
Allen, you know how I like simplicity. (I think it often happens to people as they age.) So would you say, then, that biological evolution is why my sister has blue eyes and I have brown?... just thinkin'. :)
Blessings ~ Sarahaff59a44c889add44646a50af56b6f21Feb 25, 2015, 7:12 AMRe: [Probiblos1962] Studies in Revelationhttp://www.praize.com/forums/General_C76/General_Topics_F74/Re%3A_%5BProbiblos1962%5D_Studies_in_Revelation_P121118/?page=unread#121118
I imagine everyone thought I forgot this thread but, not true, I have just been extremely busy and also thought there might be some discussion about certain points. There hasn't been so, lets move to the next stage of our study.
There is one major difference between the book of Daniel and of Revelation:
1. Daniel is a sealed book. Daniel 12:8-9 says, &quot;And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.&quot;
2. Compare this with Revelation 22:10: &quot;And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.&quot;
I'll close with the question, &quot;What exactly does this mean?
God bless,
Allen
aa68d453709854f0bcab10e14c53d4cdFeb 24, 2015, 7:11 PMRe: [jeanne53] The Theory of Evolutionhttp://www.praize.com/forums/General_C76/General_Topics_F74/Re%3A_%5Bjeanne53%5D_The_Theory_of_Evolution_P121117/?page=unread#121117
That's a good idea. It probably wold also be a good idea to define evolution better. For example, Would you agree with these statements?
&quot;Biological evolution, simply put, is descent with modification. This definition encompasses small-scale evolution (changes in gene frequency in a population from one generation to the next) and large-scale evolution (the descent of different species from a common ancestor over many generations). Evolution helps us to understand the history of life.&quot;
&quot;The central idea of biological evolution is that all life on Earth shares a common ancestor, just as you and your cousins share a common grandmother.
Through the process of descent with modification, the common ancestor of life on Earth gave rise to the fantastic diversity that we see documented in the fossil record and around us today. Evolution means that we're all distant cousins: humans and oak trees, hummingbirds and whales.&quot;dc69cd64ef5a3534dd87acaaf627fa2dFeb 24, 2015, 4:26 PMRe: [Probiblos1962] The Theory of Evolutionhttp://www.praize.com/forums/General_C76/General_Topics_F74/Re%3A_%5BProbiblos1962%5D_The_Theory_of_Evolution_P121116/?page=unread#121116
Hi Allen.
Maybe you need to explain to me what you think the Theory of Evolution is...
I think we differ in that fact.
-Jeanne
&quot;The Ox is slow, but the Earth is patient.&quot;d4e5095d7234007a9828ecbf333fcbb5Feb 24, 2015, 7:24 AMRe: [jeanne53] The Theory of Evolutionhttp://www.praize.com/forums/General_C76/General_Topics_F74/Re%3A_%5Bjeanne53%5D_The_Theory_of_Evolution_P121115/?page=unread#121115
Hello Jeanne,
Your thoughts and comments are really quite interesting. Let me take the time to make some concessions and see what happens next
Do you insist that scientists who accept evolution cannot be Christians? That would be a shock to them, if you did. Surely they must have spiritual knowledge as do you, but they do not deny scientific knowledge.
Not at all. In fact I know of many authors and individuals who are dedicated Christians and believe in the inspiration of Scripture yet believe in Theistic Evolution. They hold that God set things in motion and intervened at specific times and intervals to produce the variety of life we have today. Others, Deists, believe that He started the process and made the Universe a closed system where He no longer can or will interfere.
I do not deny science. I accept it in many ways just as I accept that scientific knowledge is what allows us to communicate with each other through our computers. It is Naturalistic Evolution that I object to. The concept that there is no God and that all began with a single particle of matter that exploded and caused everything to come into existence is to me both impossible and ridiculous.
But if you have spiritual knowledge that scientific knowledge is wrong, how can you prove it? Or..how can you even prove that the Creator Deity did not set the spark, which began it all and the rest is scientific history? Why does believing in a Creator Deity mean you must disbelieve the scientific theory of evolution?
I believe I just answered that in what I said in one sense. Some believe that the 'Big Bang' was when God called matter into existence and that the six days are long periods of time when evolution was taking place. This to me shows an orderly process and a design that requires intelligence to take place. That speaks of God.
I personally believe those days were literal 24 hour days. In giving the law to Israel God said, &quot;Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.&quot; (Exodus 20:8-11 KJV) This passage settles the question of the meaning of “day” in the creation chapter (Genesis 1). Man was to work six days and rest one day because God did; in fact, God took six days, instead of a single instant, to finish His work of creating and making all things to be a model for humanity. Just as God worked 6 days and rested the seventh so are we to do. He was a role model for humanity and it would be impossible for a man to work for a 6.000 day period and rest the last 7,000. Our life soan wouldn't allow it would it?
In an interview on the Lou Dobbs program on CNN, Dr. Michael Ruse stated, &quot;Evolution is a proven fact, just as 'proven' as 2+2=4.&quot; Just how 'proven' is evolution?
If you extend two fingers on your left hand, and then two on your right hand, lay them all on the table in front of you, and count them, you should get four. If you are careful, every time you count them, you will get four. It's an observational fact.
Now devise an experiment to verify evolution. Keep trying. There must be one. I suspect even Dr. Ruse would be unable to propose an experiment to verify evolution like we verified our mathematical equation. Even if both statements are facts, obviously they are not the same kind of facts.
Evolution is not something we can observe. If it's happening today, it's going too slow to observe. If it happened in the past, we can't return to the past to see. It may be a fact of history, but how would we know? We can't do it inthe same way we verified our equation 2+2=4. Evolution, at the most, is an idea about history, not observational science.
I'll close this post for now with an agreement with Sarah. Let's discuss the issue or, as she said, start a debate bout the subject of the 'theory of evolution.' Personally, I have a lot to learn and I believe you are just the right person to teach me. By the way, this summer, I'll be taking a course in Creation Science so, it will be a help in my studies too.
God bless you, Jeanne.
Allen8dcb2f8de40de33a37e30b149901d528Feb 23, 2015, 8:22 PMRe: [jeanne53] The Theory of Evolutionhttp://www.praize.com/forums/General_C76/General_Topics_F74/Re%3A_%5Bjeanne53%5D_The_Theory_of_Evolution_P121114/?page=unread#121114
Jeanne...
You are welcome to start a debate any time. :)
Blessings ~ Sarah8db0cd7b39ee8768160868ef0c2fc661Feb 23, 2015, 1:19 PMRe: [Probiblos1962] The Theory of Evolutionhttp://www.praize.com/forums/General_C76/General_Topics_F74/Re%3A_%5BProbiblos1962%5D_The_Theory_of_Evolution_P121113/?page=unread#121113
Allen, the simple truth is that the Theory of Evolution is indeed a fully investigated( in the way you listed) scientific theory.
A scientific theory is based upon thoroughly studied and tested facts amassed over a long time and does not rate the term &quot;theory&quot; until it passes all the rigors of the process. That is, &quot;theory&quot; is as good as it gets for science testing and guessing and studying and gathering. And science will accept new evidence as it comes along only when such evidence passes the rigors of the scientific method, but science will change its mind if the proof is there.
So...science does not know Everything and cannot explain Everything, but explains what is can by what it knows and offers a good guess with available information. All this based on what is known through material ways, not spiritual ways. So there is the drawback for knowledge that is gained through spiritual ways.
But if you have spiritual knowledge that scientific knowledge is wrong, how can you prove it? Or..how can you even prove that the Creator Deity did not set the spark, which began it all and the rest is scientific history? Why does believing in a Creator Deity mean you must disbelieve the scientific theory of evolution?
Evolution does not prove there was no Creator Deity. It only shows a method for the diversity of species from single-celled life forms to higher organisms and the adaptation within species to better fit their environment. Evolution does not rule out Intelligent Design. It is just a theory that describes how life forms changed from simple to complex. It describes how life forms change today, as well as, how they changed in the distant past.
Do you insist that scientists who accept evolution cannot be Christians? That would be a shock to them, if you did. Surely they must have spiritual knowledge as do you, but they do not deny scientific knowledge.
I know we are getting a bit into debate here, but General Topics is usually the only forum running.
-Jeanne
&quot;The Ox is slow, but the Earth is patient.&quot;295881755ad6adddae06fb6e62643b60Feb 23, 2015, 1:14 PMRe: [Probiblos1962] The Theory of Evolutionhttp://www.praize.com/forums/General_C76/General_Topics_F74/Re%3A_%5BProbiblos1962%5D_The_Theory_of_Evolution_P121112/?page=unread#121112
Some food for thought:
Science is based upon observation and all we can observe is the present. Where Creation is involved, scientists are out of their realm. Yet the 'Theory of Evolution' has been taught for so long that it is accepted as absolute truth even by many Christians. The adaptations that you speak of here are in accord with God's statement in Genesis that everything will produce &quot;after its kind.&quot; Bacteria may adapt but it does not become a new bacteria or creature as a result. It is simply an adaption of the same species.
What you say may be so . . . . . but . . . . .
Science has the historical, archaeological and paleontological record from which to also draw evidence and responsibly interpret its implications when compared with the reality of what is available now living or in the process of being geologically formed, therefore now available for study and comparison. So scientists are not ‘out of their realm’ when comparing ‘fossils’ and ancient geological formations, with creatures and tectonic movements observable in the present era.
Though the ‘Theory’ of Evolution is still a ‘theory’ in as much as it has not been irrevocably ‘proven’ in a similar manner to the way it is ‘proven’ that The moon orbits the earth or the earth and moon orbit the sun, (though pious church leaders once unjustly attempted to suppress this scientific truth), nevertheless Evolution is a very plausible explanation for a great many puzzling questions about how everything ‘came to be as it is now’.
Before deciding whether it is possible for creatures to eventually become other ‘kinds’ of creature we need to define what was meant by the word ‘kind’ as used by the author of Genesis and as understood by modern man with scientific understanding. Clearly cattle do not have snakes as offspring, neither do spiders give birth to mice. That was a fact so obvious to the author of Genesis that it seems to have become foundational to his belief that everything is governed by an inalienable ‘Law’ of reproduction. All ‘Laws’ come from God so the simple fact that every living thing obeys that law would be a fact worth repeating, underlining and emphasizing. Hence the frequent repetition of the phrase.
Evolution however is not and has never been to do with individual biological reproduction, in the sense that any creature could possibly give birth to a creature of another ‘kind’. Evolution has never at any time been thought of that way by any scientist, or for that matter by any intelligent and educated person.
Madagascar is an island, cut off from the mainland of Africa many millions of years ago. The creatures there still follow the same rule of breeding only with their own ‘kind’ but the ‘kind’ of animals and other creatures found in Madagascar are unlike most creatures found anywhere else on earth.
Cats can only breed with the own ‘kind’ but Tigers can breed with Lions, Lions can breed with Tigers. Are Lions and Tigers the same ‘kind’ of creature? If they are not, then Ligers and Tigons should not be possible and should therefore not exist. If they are the same 'kind' why are Tigers found only in Asia and Lions in Africa. They would normally never meet. But in spite of that, they can breed!
The Fossa is not a cat but it is very much ‘like’ a cat. It perfectly fits the ecological niche that cats normally evolved to fill. Madagascar has never had native cats. In Madagascar the Fossa has filled the niche that cats would otherwise have filled. Madagascar was cut off entirely from the mainland, many millions of years before cats had evolved to become 'cats'. Very probably the Fossa didn't start out as a Fossa and cats did not start out as cats but both 'kinds' became what they now are a very long time ago. Now fossas can only breed with fossas and cats can only breed with cats.
Lemurs are not apes or monkeys, but they have many ape and monkey like characteristics. This is simply because they do very much what monkeys and apes do to survive in their Madagascan island environment. Most creationists simply won’t ask themselves questions about WHY creatures should have become what they are now, and how might it have happened. I happen to believe that it is irresponsible to refuse to inquire and to learn what it is possible to discover about what God has made. That includes asking questions about HOW God made it and IS God still doing it, before our very eyes, but going too slowly for us to ‘see’ it and appreciate the wonder of it.
Are crocodiles and alligators the same ‘kind’? Can they breed? If not, why are they so similar and why have they both been around on earth for so long? Could there once have been a Crockagator or an Allidile which was their common ancestor, now extinct. Could they simply be two branches of the same family tree which have become two separate 'kinds' of crocagator or allidile. Africa and Australia has crocodiles. America has alligators. Is it merely coincidence that there is a very large watery gap between one and the other.
Regards Chris.8d9482accff87a33df98e4b19089eae5Feb 20, 2015, 2:29 PMRe: [Probiblos1962] The Theory of Evolutionhttp://www.praize.com/forums/General_C76/General_Topics_F74/Re%3A_%5BProbiblos1962%5D_The_Theory_of_Evolution_P121111/?page=unread#121111
Hello all.
There is nothing in the scientific theory of evolution which speaks to abiogenisis, which is life springing from non-living matter. If God solves that riddle for many people, that is fine by the evolutionists.
Evolution happens more rapidly than first thought and its evidence is in the study of the so-called lower life forms, such as fruit flies and guppies, which produce many generations during a human life span. Scientists deliberately alter their environments to quickly produce genetic change of the species over many generations, but nature often does this on its own over much longer periods of time.
One species does not become another species, but evolutionary adaptations over thousands and thousands of years might make them appear vastly different from each other. For example the whale of today is nothing like the creature it was that first began the move to become a sea-dweller.
But for all that, the genetic make-up of all life forms, plant and animal, is very nearly the same.
Thank heavens for the vast difference a tiny difference in genetic code makes or I could have fallen in love with a turnip.
-Jeanne
&quot;The Ox is slow, but the Earth is patient.&quot;b2ef9512c8aa85360335ee575d556180Feb 19, 2015, 12:26 PMRe: [kennyj] The Theory of Evolutionhttp://www.praize.com/forums/General_C76/General_Topics_F74/Re%3A_%5Bkennyj%5D_The_Theory_of_Evolution_P121110/?page=unread#121110
I can accept that creatures adapt to their environment and that is evolution or change. In biology the dictionary says that it means.
&quot;change in the gene pool of a population from generation to generation by such processes as mutation, natural selection, and genetic drift.&quot;
In that sense, evolution is proper term. Give me one example of any creature turning into another life form as a result of evolution though. It can't be done. There was only one witness to creation and that is God. He tells us He did it in six days and rested on the seventh. I accept that as fact and scientifically valid. No creature can change into a different kind. There are many varieties of dogs on the earth but, they are all dogs, They can't breed with a cat. In fact my Pit Bull has killed 3 feral cats in the yard already.
Genesis 1:24&amp;25 tells us, &quot;And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind : and it was so. And God made the beast of the earth after his kind , and cattle after their kind , and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind : and God saw that it was good.&quot;
Note the number of times the phrase 'after hid kind&quot; (or a similar one is used. No creature evolves into a dfferent lfe form.587bac52094c52adac28b74a16b2dd34Feb 18, 2015, 12:46 AM