better than your boring world CS. At least there's something to do in Gayle's world besides listening to you carp on endlessly about Ignatieff. Im not even going to touch your masturbatory Michael fantasies.

Seriously, other than the obligatory mocking post, I suggest CS be ignored. His plan is only to derail intelligent conversation by asking his non-sensical questions, and to launch a personal attack whenever his "sense" is questioned.

Naturally, that means he launches many a personal attack.

As to the point at hand, the LPC will take a hit for backing down, again, but they took an even bigger one for refusing to back down. I think it is time for them to hunker down and stay out of sight so the media can concentrate on the CPC for a while.

Despite Jim's little fantasy, I am quite confident the LPC have "something". They just need to wait until people are paying attention to something besides their internal politics before they bring it out. Which leads to point number two - stop airing dirty laundry in public!

Does anyone over here want to tackle the Liberal vote against the reno tax credit?

With Iggy having said "consistently for a month is in those cases where the government brings forth legislation we can support or approve or amend, we’ll do so", does that not mean that the Liberals are really against reno credit?

I would like to tackle the fact Harper was playing political games with scheduling that vote.

Just like he does with many votes. But that is not an issue YOU like to address, is it.

At some point you are going to have to accept that Harper is as corrupt as all who came before him. That Harper's goal is power, and he is willing to sell out his principles in order to hang on to that power - even to the point where he is willing to govern like a liberal.

As for the vote against the reno tax credit, Ignatieff made it very clear why he was doing so and that he would still support it if there were an election and a liberal government.

In fact, Ignatieff made it pretty clear why he lost confidence in the government. Unfortunately that message got lost in the whole election speculation.

So he may have lost the PR battle, but that does not mean you should take that to mean he had no reason to topple the government.

So what he said yesterday about being consistent in supporting good legislation was a lie?

It cannot be both ways Gayle.

BTW I will issue a challenge to anyone to provide me examples (links) of Ignatieff where he said "consistently for a month is in those cases where the government brings forth legislation we can support or approve or amend, we’ll do so"

As a poorly-socialised, right wing loser, you're probably not familiar with the type of person who is energised by stupidity and is positively gleeful when the opportunity arises to smack them down, hard.

That strikes you as uncontrollably angry, because you only know two emotional states...hysterical gush and adolescent temper tantrums, like the kind you've been having here. And the only come-back you've got is the type your mother uses on you, such as this conceited and witheringly disdainful crap:

"anger management issues, lack of power or control in your life, compensating again through an alias?"

Yes, dear. That's my problem. That and my alienation from society due to my fierce intelligence and scary good looks.