the 3GS is a lot faster and not just in opening programs. Scrolling speed and checker board loading are much better as well. The Pre has a long way to go in improving snapiness and general system lag. Not to mention memory leaks.

For a light weight OS WebOS certainly feels bloated most of the time. Hopefully Palm can get it better optimized.

the 3gs is a lot faster and not just in opening programs. Scrolling speed and checker board loading are much better as well. The pre has a long way to go in improving snapiness and general system lag. Not to mention memory leaks.

For a light weight os webos certainly feels bloated most of the time. Hopefully palm can get it better optimized.

No flame pls, but i've been playing with a G1 and I find Android more robust (app launch speeds and such) than WebOS on the Pre. Yes WebOS is newer and more virginal right now but I don't remember any of these lagginess at the demo launch with Mr Duarté.

Just the other day, it took almost 20 secs for the calendar app to open on my friends Pre. The rest take maybe half that to launch which is more tolerable but still not great.

Just the other day, it took almost 20 secs for the calendar app to open on my friends Pre. The rest take maybe half that to launch which is more tolerable but still not great.

Really? 20 seconds for the calendar app? After multiple test with multiple apps open I am right around 4 seconds to open the calendar, not sure whats wrong with your friends Pre because thats not normal.

20 seconds? 10 seconds? Both are ridiculously high. I tested mine on multiple apps after reading the above post and I didn't have one that took longer than 7 seconds to completely launch. Calendar, on average, took 3.5 seconds to open.

the fact that they even considered testing the boot time makes the whole testing stupid- I mean honestly how many people worry about reboot time.

I guess I'm less concerned about hardcore speed than overall usability. The palm pre has a usability up there with the iphone. And its light years ago that nokia. I would love to see the pre increase in speed (which we might see with updates) but for now I'm happy. People need to get over trying to prove intangibles.

This has become such an overused accusation it's becoming ridiculous. Specifically where do you think there's a memory leak, and please include some evidence. While the possibility certainly exists, without profiling tools there's no way to identify a memory leak. Heck, we don't even have an app that can show us basic memory usage - so how are people so convinced that the Pre is leaking memory?

Did a test just for the hell raise and got a whopping 21 cards open before memory warning popped up. All this and Pandora was still crankin' in the background... Calendar still opened up and was usable in under 5 seconds. The Pre is plenty fast. If it's not fast enough for you, put down the crack pipe and chill. . .

If it cuts you off at less than 10 cards do a soft reset and that should help.