BFV has it problems with bugs but its nothing compared to what Battlefield 4 was like

Nothing like as in BF4 had ONE bug (though a serious one that made it unplayable) and BF5 has dozens in almost every aspect (making it playable but regularly intensely frustrating). Yeah. That's in BF5's favour? Not really.

BF4 best ever? Not really. It was a technical improvement on BF3 and has excellent RSP, so has lasted very well. A lot say BF3 is better, though. I think BF1 is much better.

People saying BF5 is "the end of Battlefield" may be an exaggeration, but it's nothing like for the reasons previous Battlefields have been criticised.

Design, bugs, omissions, the live service, weird mechanics, lack of RSP and platoon support, the list of deficiencies and problems is enormous. This is nothing like 'the normal' Battlefield complaining.

I know you're being facetious, but the reality is that it's got no where near the popularity anymore it had at the height of BF4 or BF1.

I'm in Australia on Xbox. It's currently 4pm here and there's only 6 servers running (which covers every game mode).

For a FPS that's 6 months old that's ridiculously low numbers. That's pointing to not even 1000 active players of an afternoon after school on the Xbox Platform.

So sure, mock the comments on this all you like if it's going to make you feel better (because I assure you, it doesn't make me feel any better to report this) but the simple fact is, this game has crapped the bed and dropping off a cliff.

lol @ all these doomsday folks. BFV certainly under performed, but it's far from a straight flop. Heck in roughly the same amount of time it's sold a little more than BF4 sold. BF1 obviously sold better, but people are quick to forget BF1 was an outlier for several key reasons.

lol @ all these doomsday folks. BFV certainly under performed, but it's far from a straight flop. Heck in roughly the same amount of time it's sold a little more than BF4 sold. BF1 obviously sold better, but people are quick to forget BF1 was an outlier for several key reasons.

I'm more concern about the decline in player base on PC, not the sale. I always use the server browser and a month ago all servers were full and I had to queue. Now I get a full page of serveres with free sloths (5-10 free). It is also more often that a server become empty (less than 20 players) after a map and don't fill up again.
I can't find the numbers playing any where, but it feels like its getting lower. Still plenty of servers to play on but imo there's a negative trend in the number of players.

lol @ all these doomsday folks. BFV certainly under performed, but it's far from a straight flop. Heck in roughly the same amount of time it's sold a little more than BF4 sold. BF1 obviously sold better, but people are quick to forget BF1 was an outlier for several key reasons.

I'm more concern about the decline in player base on PC, not the sale. I always use the server browser and a month ago all servers were full and I had to queue. Now I get a full page of serveres with free sloths (5-10 free). It is also more often that a server become empty (less than 20 players) after a map and don't fill up again.
I can't find the numbers playing any where, but it feels like its getting lower. Still plenty of servers to play on but imo there's a negative trend in the number of players.

I've seen a pretty big decline also, not to mention that none of my friends want to play BFV anymore either. I'm literally the last one out of 60 odd players on my list.

The general concencus between my friends is they don't like attrition very much. So it's not even stale maps/game fatigue for them at least. I don't much like attrition either but I make do.

lol @ all these doomsday folks. BFV certainly under performed, but it's far from a straight flop. Heck in roughly the same amount of time it's sold a little more than BF4 sold. BF1 obviously sold better, but people are quick to forget BF1 was an outlier for several key reasons.

I'm more concern about the decline in player base on PC, not the sale. I always use the server browser and a month ago all servers were full and I had to queue. Now I get a full page of serveres with free sloths (5-10 free). It is also more often that a server become empty (less than 20 players) after a map and don't fill up again.
I can't find the numbers playing any where, but it feels like its getting lower. Still plenty of servers to play on but imo there's a negative trend in the number of players.

I've seen a pretty big decline also, not to mention that none of my friends want to play BFV anymore either. I'm literally the last one out of 60 odd players on my list.

The general concencus between my friends is they don't like attrition very much. So it's not even stale maps/game fatigue for them at least. I don't much like attrition either but I make do.

Same here. I see 1 or 2 on my friends list playing out of around 30 who played BF1. Even my closets buddy whom I have been playing with for the last 12 years don't want to play any more and he has been a dedicated fan since the very start of BF like me. I don't mind playing a bad game, if I have my friends playing and on discord, but alone BFV is just not worth it.

spend time on the reddit battlefield forums and you will get communication from the devs.

Or Twitter. The devs are active on all platforms except the forums. I wonder why

Well, the forums are actually a place where a lot of uninformed people communicate with each other. While on Reddit most of the people follow any tiny bit of thing that gets released or talked about. Let's say the Forums are more casual than Reddit. This isn't bad thing because everyone's opinion is important. To fix this issue they should create surveys IN-GAME. Because that's the only place every single player sees.

spend time on the reddit battlefield forums and you will get communication from the devs.

Or Twitter. The devs are active on all platforms except the forums. I wonder why

Well, the forums are actually a place where a lot of uninformed people communicate with each other. While on Reddit most of the people follow any tiny bit of thing that gets released or talked about. Let's say the Forums are more casual than Reddit. This isn't bad thing because everyone's opinion is important. To fix this issue they should create surveys IN-GAME. Because that's the only place every single player sees.

I agree surveys should be in game, if they want a real sample, but apparently they don't.

Reddit less 'casual' though? Lol. Reddit, because of the down-voting mob, is just horrendous. A very small but motivated group can obliterate any opinion they don't agree with.

It might be less 'casual' but only in as much as it supports the very vocal opinionated minorities, so it's not a good thing.

Much like BF5 itself is supposedly less 'casual': It tries to cater to the minority competitive and hardcore types, and suffers greatly because of it.

spend time on the reddit battlefield forums and you will get communication from the devs.

Or Twitter. The devs are active on all platforms except the forums. I wonder why

On Twitter they only answer to celebrities/"influencers"... It sucks. And I don't care about any BF youtuber and their feedback except if they played BF 1942, which is not the case. Most of them are CoD fans...

spend time on the reddit battlefield forums and you will get communication from the devs.

Or Twitter. The devs are active on all platforms except the forums. I wonder why

They are active on all other platforms than the games official forum, where the vast majority of the games players are.

I reckon they are intentionally avoiding it, as they cba dealing with people not being happy about their game.

This is not true. It is easier to communicate with the audience over social media than over the forum. Everybody has a twitter account these days and this means not only the official EA/DICE/BFV channels will publicate information, but involved individuals as well, which can be a youtuber or dev even through a simple tweet and this will reach more players than a post on the official forums.
Additionally you do not have the overly long discussions that ensue on the forums over a rather small detail.

spend time on the reddit battlefield forums and you will get communication from the devs.

Or Twitter. The devs are active on all platforms except the forums. I wonder why

They are active on all other platforms than the games official forum, where the vast majority of the games players are.

I reckon they are intentionally avoiding it, as they cba dealing with people not being happy about their game.

This is not true. It is easier to communicate with the audience over social media than over the forum. Everybody has a twitter account these days and this means not only the official EA/DICE/BFV channels will publicate information, but involved individuals as well, which can be a youtuber or dev even through a simple tweet and this will reach more players than a post on the official forums.
Additionally you do not have the overly long discussions that ensue on the forums over a rather small detail.

Far from everyone has a twitter account, or use reddit... me and my friends don't, and i'm not going to make one just to get in contact with game developers who should interact with their playerbase on their official forum !

spend time on the reddit battlefield forums and you will get communication from the devs.

Or Twitter. The devs are active on all platforms except the forums. I wonder why

They are active on all other platforms than the games official forum, where the vast majority of the games players are.

I reckon they are intentionally avoiding it, as they cba dealing with people not being happy about their game.

This is not true. It is easier to communicate with the audience over social media than over the forum. Everybody has a twitter account these days and this means not only the official EA/DICE/BFV channels will publicate information, but involved individuals as well, which can be a youtuber or dev even through a simple tweet and this will reach more players than a post on the official forums.
Additionally you do not have the overly long discussions that ensue on the forums over a rather small detail.

Far from everyone has a twitter account, or use reddit... me and my friends don't, and i'm not going to make one just to get in contact with game developers who should interact with their playerbase on their official forum !

Yes, and you are in the minority here. There is no difference between making a forum account or a twitter account to follow official or dev channels. It takes the same time and resources. You are also not missing anything vital here, every bit of game relevant information will be posted on the forums.
The benefit of twitter is that you do get the occasional tidbits of things that are work in progress like sneak peaks of the improved vaulting or the bipod mechanics. That is not breaking news at all. This can also backfire of course, as could be seen two weeks ago with the JU-52 poll debacle.