WoW! I filled up my 2007 Ford Ranger V-6 work truck today. I had 191 miles since my last fill-up. $63.50! That's 3 miles per dollar! :icon_eek:

Our boys in Iraq captured the biggest pool of oil on the face of this earth and we pay $4.00 per gallon at the pump! What ever happened to the spoils of war?:confused:

June 10th, 2008, 10:33 PM

underground quester

Re: Gas Prices

Wing:

We have an area in Alberta about 85,000 square miles where they are surface mining oil plus tons of conventional oil drilling.

Price at the pumps today? $5.28 for a U.S. gallon.

We are literally sitting on a sea of oil and asking the same question. Why the hell are we paying sooooo much for gas?

June 10th, 2008, 10:53 PM

Goldenboy

Re: Gas Prices

I am so glad we bring the company trucks home. Some of my buddies have to fill up their personal vehicles every other day. That would drive me crazy to spend that much on fuel.

Just wait we'll all be driving fuel cell vehicles for company trucks.

June 10th, 2008, 11:00 PM

TBONE

Re: Gas Prices

Its right at $4.00 a gal here 70 some dollars to fill up the Tacoma :icon_eek:

June 10th, 2008, 11:06 PM

underground quester

Re: Gas Prices

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldenboy

I am so glad we bring the company trucks home. Some of my buddies have to fill up their personal vehicles every other day. That would drive me crazy to spend that much on fuel.

Just wait we'll all be driving fuel cell vehicles for company trucks.

You are sooo right Golden. That (bringing truck home) really has to be one of the unsung benefits of the job. I really do save a ton of money not driving my SUV back and forth. I might fill up my SUV once every two weeks now.

Not sure how one would translate that to an "average" saving but I suppose it would be worth about .50 cents or more an hour. (because I do not have to buy the gas).

June 10th, 2008, 11:09 PM

stormgrey

Re: Gas Prices

Just wait till the 4th of July about the tuesday before, the price will magically start to go up screwing with everyones vacation plans. Im staying in town for sure! Next trip out of town wont be till November! Ill start saving now:mad:

June 11th, 2008, 02:05 AM

Wingfoot

Re: Gas Prices

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wingfoot

Our boys in Iraq captured the biggest pool of oil on the face of this earth and we pay $4.00 per gallon at the pump! What ever happened to the spoils of war?:confused:

When Bush finally steps down as President in 2009, he will have left behind the greatest legacy in the history of energy production. More important than the invention of nuclear power stations, he will have brought oil across the middle-east all the way to China. Americans may have thought that THEY were going to get all that Iraqi oil, but they are sorely mistaken. Iraq's oil is going where it is the most profitable: China.

The United States has the price of gasoline close to $3.90/gallon. The real price is closer to $5.50 if you ignore subsidies. The Chinese do not have taxes and there are no gas subsidies. In Hong Kong, China it is closer to $5.60/gallon and keeps going up. The gasoline price flows more naturally, and the demand in China is HUGE!

Lets say you have a million gallons of gasoline to sell. You could sell it in the United States and make maybe $5 million, or you could sell it in China and make $8 million.

Its a bit like a bidding war, and China is simply bidding a lot more.

As oil tycoons, Bush and Cheney both understand this. They can do the math.

The current cost of oil is $120/barrel (slightly higher in China due to demand). One 42 gallon barrel of oil when refined makes 19.4 gallons of gasoline.

Thus after refining the oil into gasoline you now have 19.4 gallons of gasoline from each barrel worth almost $110. Add 8 gallons of low-sulfur diesel fuel and 4 gallons of jet fuel worth $65 combined. Still more revenue is available for the remaining 10+ gallons of refined product from each barrel of crude oil.

China currently uses 8.4 million barrels of oil per day and that statistic keeps growing. It is estimated to reach 20 million/day by 2010 (the Chinese have started buying cars like crazy) at which point it will actually pass the United States in oil usage and the price of oil by then will go up to $250/barrel and perhaps $8/gallon. That is only 2 years away.

By building a pipeline from Iraq all the way to China the UNOCAL Oil Company will be able to tap into the Chinese market and make literally billions of dollars/day.

Two years from now George W. Bush will be one of the richest men in the world.

The only remaining hurdle is to invade Iran and start building a pipeline across there too.

June 11th, 2008, 06:45 AM

USIC1

Re: Gas Prices

How bout a chart of the tax pie on gas and diesel ???

state and federal...

Someones just gotten wise to a cup of java at a starbucks in relation to fuel costs....

What do you expect???

;)

June 11th, 2008, 06:04 PM

gypsygirl

Re: Gas Prices

All I can say is stockpile food & water people.... the day is coming...

June 11th, 2008, 07:54 PM

Goldenboy

Re: Gas Prices

Today when I fueled up the work truck the price of gas for regular unleaded was $4.09/gallon.

June 11th, 2008, 07:55 PM

UULC

Re: Gas Prices

I paid $4.03 today for a gallon of gas.:mad:

:mad:

June 11th, 2008, 09:48 PM

USIC1

Re: Gas Prices

My company paid so I didnt keep track...

Lately I ve been getting raises because of that but have nt noticed because food offsets the fuel savings...

Its all down hill from here...

Any possiblity of the economy picking up involves higher energy fuel costs which defeats acceleration in the economy...

Progress energy has petitioned raising there rates 16&#37; I think January 1 09...

Wait til that hits...All the energy companys will raise across the states...

Im going to go live like Grizzley Adams in Steves backyard the saw tooth mountains and pan for gold on the side or shoot at a rabbit like Jed and by a place next to Paris H and make some videos... Screw this...

June 12th, 2008, 08:24 PM

underground quester

Re: Gas Prices

Quote:

Originally Posted by USIC1

My company paid so I didnt keep track...

Lately I ve been getting raises because of that but have nt noticed because food offsets the fuel savings...

Its all down hill from here...

Any possiblity of the economy picking up involves higher energy fuel costs which defeats acceleration in the economy...

Progress energy has petitioned raising there rates 16% I think January 1 09...

Wait til that hits...All the energy companys will raise across the states...

Im going to go live like Grizzley Adams in Steves backyard the saw tooth mountains and pan for gold on the side or shoot at a rabbit like Jed and by a place next to Paris H and make some videos... Screw this...

SO USIC1 just WHAT kind of videos were you thinking of shooting....not more of those Grizzly Adams or Disney Classics I hope!!

June 12th, 2008, 08:52 PM

Dracula

Re: Gas Prices

I still get a good laugh when people think the war is about oil.
We get less then half of our oil from the middle east, we get most
of our oil from Canada.

June 12th, 2008, 09:02 PM

underground quester

Re: Gas Prices

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dracula

I still get a good laugh when people think the war is about oil.
We get less then half of our oil from the middle east, we get most
of our oil from Canada.

Interesting Dracula. I didn't think the percentage was that high. I am probably wrong but thought is was around 30% somewhere.

We are building mega billion dollar refineries/processing plants like crazy in Northern Alberta (Canada) in order to ship more oil south. About two weeks ago one company announced they are increasing their production by something like 1 million barrels to export to the U.S.

Last week, the Ambassador to the U.S. who resides in Ottawa (David Wilkins) announced that the U.S. MAY stop using our oil for U.S. government vehicles as the "processing" is a relatively high green house gas emitter. So my question to Mr. Wilkins is "It is better for the U.S. to buy oil from Venezuala or the middle east???"

June 12th, 2008, 09:08 PM

yahoo

Re: Gas Prices

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wingfoot

WoW! I filled up my 2007 Ford Ranger V-6 work truck today. I had 191 miles since my last fill-up. $63.50! That's 3 miles per dollar! :icon_eek:

Our boys in Iraq captured the biggest pool of oil on the face of this earth and we pay $4.00 per gallon at the pump! What ever happen to the spoils of war?:confused:

wing .....now you speaking my language.........that's what we need to start doing ,,,,,,taking...............

I had a more up to date link which had the middle east even less and Canada more, but I can't find it right now.

Hey Dracula:

No problem, just kinda caught me by surprise. Didn't think our exports were quite that high.

Although, I guess just about every mega development project has some U.S. involvement, so it would not be a total surprise to see a number like that I guess.

June 13th, 2008, 04:35 PM

2RUDE

Re: Gas Prices

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June 20th, 2008, 12:32 AM

underground quester

Re: Gas Prices

Hey nothing to do with gas for locating vehicles but found this article interesting. Was in our major newspaper last Saturday.

"The U.S. ailine industry is headed for a crash as record oil prices threaten to push several carriers into bankruptcy threatening 'our American Way of life' and industry study said Friday.

The industry 'is in full blown crisis and heading toward a catastrophe' said a study issued by AirlineForecasts and the Business Travel Coalition.

At current oil prices near $130 a barrel, several large and Small American Airlines will default on their obligationsto creditors late this year or early in 2009, the study says.
It shows that oil at $130 wil increase yearly airline costs by $30 Billion, while airlines will be able to generate only $4 Billion in fare increases and incremental fees.
The implication is that several large and small airlines will ultimately end up in bankruptcy, and of those, some will be forced to liquidate the study said.
The airlines are on pace to spend $30 Billion more on JET fuel in 2008 versus 2007, it said."

Okay, so if these folks are correct and they are not pulling a Chicken little scenario here, this could just be the tip of the iceberg in terms of large company failures. This of course has implications for each of us 'cause poop flows downhill!

June 20th, 2008, 07:57 AM

Wingfoot

Re: Gas Prices

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wingfoot

WoW! I filled up my 2007 Ford Ranger V-6 work truck today. I had 191 miles since my last fill-up. $63.50! That's 3 miles per dollar! :icon_eek:

Subject: American Mileage

A recent study conducted by Harvard University found that the
average American walks about 900 miles a year.

American Medical Association found that

Americans drink, on average, 22 gallons of alcohol a year.

This means, on average, Americans get about 41 miles to the gallon.

Makes You Proud To Be An American.

June 20th, 2008, 10:40 PM

sprayandpray

Re: Gas Prices

Hey, as much as I walk I bet I get 50+ miles per gallon of alcohol. And Al Gore doesn't think I'm doing enough to halt Global Warming!

July 26th, 2008, 03:43 AM

Wingfoot

Re: Gas Prices

Quick question! What side of your car is your gas cap? I drive several different vehicles, and at times can't remember one from another. Most recently I've had to fill up the gas on rental and borrowed cars. I've stuck my head out the window to see if the gas cap was on the left side or the right side, usually to no avail . . .

I have found if you look at your gas gauge, you will see a small icon of a gas pump. The handle of the gas pump will extend out on either the left or right side of the pump. If the gas cap is on the left, the handle will be pointing to the left. If gas cap is on the right, the handle will be pointing to the right (see photo below). It's that simple!

Now that is a useful bit of information to have. Thanks Wing! Or should we start calling you the Guru of All Things Automotive!

July 26th, 2008, 10:49 AM

theone

Re: Gas Prices

Very useful on what side the gas cap is on a vehicle. 1 more thing lets not forget about terrorists. I would much rather pay $10 a gallon then have to worry if I was going to get blown up by a car bomb on my way to the grocery store or have me and my family jailed or executed because my hard headed wife refused to go out in public looking like a tent. Your next president could be banning pork and alcohol. Something to think about with the next election. Freedom is not free and the more we give back to the government the more its gonna cost when we finally wake up and say enough is enough. I myself am allready tired of working twice as hard to support someone that is to efing lazy to get up and get there own, but why should they when all they have to do is stand in line with their hands out. Im starting to wonder whos the fool.

July 26th, 2008, 11:17 AM

thejoker

Re: Gas Prices

I dont get that good a millage....:tease:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wingfoot

Subject: American Mileage

A recent study conducted by Harvard University found that the
average American walks about 900 miles a year.

American Medical Association found that

Americans drink, on average, 22 gallons of alcohol a year.

This means, on average, Americans get about 41 miles to the gallon.

Makes You Proud To Be An American.

July 26th, 2008, 12:15 PM

Wingfoot

Re: Gas Prices

Quote:

Originally Posted by theone

I would much rather pay $10 a gallon then have to worry if I was going to get blown up by a car bomb on my way to the grocery store or have me and my family jailed or executed because my hard headed wife refused to go out in public looking like a tent. Freedom is not free and the more we give back to the government the more its gonna cost when we finally wake up and say enough is enough. I'm starting to wonder who's the fool.

theone - Welcome Aboard! Thanks for the interaction. It's good to learn of at least one locator that is politically awake! This is the first step. There is so much more information you need to know and so little time left to find it.

You will never get the REAL story (the truth) from ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, Larry King Live, Glen Beck, Diane Saywer, Matt Lauer or Bill O'Lielly. Do not swallow all the politically correct propaganda from these BULLSHIT artists. Lou Dobbs is the only real mainstream news reader that gives balance to the bullshit. Keep searching the net for the truth. It's not that hard to find. And prepare yourself, and most importantly your family, for what's coming in the next few months.

Not always true. On my '08 Ranger the gas cap is on the left side. The little picture has the pump hose on the right. But there is a little arror right next to the pump pointing to the left.

Also in my area regurlar unleaded in my area went from $4.25 a gallon to $3.85 in the last week.

July 26th, 2008, 01:59 PM

theone

Re: Gas Prices

Its pretty sad when someone can name every player on a baseball team and give stats for the last 10 years,(who gives a flying fornication) but cant name a few senators and congress men that are taking so much money from us and giving so freely to free loaders. I say bring on the recession and make it hurt. It might just push these lowlifes north or south of the border dont really care as long as im not the one supporting them I have 2 kids to support. Im tired of supporting them and theirs cause they made, make, and continue to make bad decessions.

July 26th, 2008, 03:34 PM

yahoo

Re: Gas Prices

the rich will always take care of the poor........dont you think???

July 26th, 2008, 06:56 PM

frostypeters

Re: Gas Prices

Quote:

Originally Posted by yahoo

the rich will always take care of the poor........dont you think???

Now THAT's funny!!!

October 22nd, 2008, 09:10 AM

Wingfoot

Re: Gas Prices

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wingfoot

WoW! I filled up my 2007 Ford Ranger V-6 work truck today. I had 191 miles since my last fill-up. $63.50! That's 3 miles per dollar! :icon_eek:

Our boys in Iraq captured the biggest pool of oil on the face of this earth and we pay $4.00 per gallon at the pump! What ever happened to the spoils of war?:confused:

WoW! I filled up my Ford Ranger V-6 work truck today. $2.19 per gallon! $30.00 vs. $63.50! Who sez we are in a
recession?

October 22nd, 2008, 02:14 PM

mr. null

Re: Gas Prices

oil prices fall in relation to the trading at the NYMEX and the Chicago Mercantile Exchange. Major Hedge Funds who were up to their necks in oil futures this summer had to bail on them when the larger forces i.e. stock's crashing forced their selling. They had to sell because the people who put there money in hedge funds began pulling their money out. So basically the price of oil is manipulated by a few multi-billion dollar hedge funds, and does not reflect the true cost of oil. What this means for "Joe Locator" is that in the near term 6-12 months, the price of gas will continue to fall towards 2.00. yippie!

October 22nd, 2008, 09:52 PM

beyond help

Re: Gas Prices

$2.19? Hell it's still 2.75 here in the not much of a motor city.

October 22nd, 2008, 10:11 PM

lawnpainter

Re: Gas Prices

$2.47 here in Minnesnowta

October 22nd, 2008, 10:13 PM

beyond help

Re: Gas Prices

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawnpainter

$2.47 here in Minnesnowta

Damn, that cold already?

October 22nd, 2008, 10:26 PM

lawnpainter

Re: Gas Prices

pert'neer

October 22nd, 2008, 10:27 PM

lawnpainter

Re: Gas Prices

Quote:

Originally Posted by beyond help

Damn, that cold already?

pert'neer

October 23rd, 2008, 07:32 PM

yahoo

Re: Gas Prices

2.99 here and over 3 still in some places.....further up north la it is low 2's........

October 23rd, 2008, 09:45 PM

underground quester

Re: Gas Prices

Hah!!!

Got ya all beat. We are still paying $4.00 gallon for regular grade gas.