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Without looking it up, for certain they did. We didn't lose a game, plenty of the teams who qualified from different qualifying pools had worse results than Aus.

Just like, hang on, Pakistan, who have worse results than India, but being from a different pool, have snuck through.

Fair dinkum, starting to hope they win this now. Absolute comedy gold on here if they do.

More wins than Australia? Please could you put in the exacts? Further, I repeat am not sure how valid is a comparison between football and cricket, as the former has three possible results while the latter has just the two.

My position has been transparent on this issue from the outset. It has got nothing to do with your perceptions not being the reality.

Lol We haven't won a trophy by fluke yet.
In 1983 WC also we defeated WI twice
In 1986 champions trophy we defeated everybody
In 2002 champions trophy we defeated everbody
In 2007 T20 WC we defeated everybody except NZ and beat you guys twice.

And what you did in 1992 WC and 2009 T20 WC was win few games and win the trophy

mate, seriously, you are going nowhere.. Pakistan deserved their WC wins just as much as we did... It is not as if they lost some game and won the trophy, for crying out loud!!!

And yeah, Pak have gone through on the basis of winning one game now.. And India can go through too, winning just one game!!! And don't blame Pakistan if we can't win our game tomorrow. Us losing and Pak winning does not make the format a bad one!!!

We miss you, Fardin. :(. RIP.

Originally Posted by vic_orthdox

In the end, I think it's so utterly, incomprehensibly boring. There is so much context behind each innings of cricket that dissecting statistics into these small samples is just worthless. No-one has ever been faced with the same situation in which they come out to bat as someone else. Ever.

I'd imagine Iran had more losses than Australia, given that Australia's path to qualification pre 2010 involved thrashing a bunch of islands and New Zealand before inevitably losing to the 4th placed South American side.

mate, seriously, you are going nowhere.. Pakistan deserved their WC wins just as much as we did... It is not as if they lost some game and won the trophy, for crying out loud!!!

And yeah, Pak have gone through on the basis of winning one game now.. And India can go through too, winning just one game!!! And don't blame Pakistan if we can't win our game tomorrow. Us losing and Pak winning does not make the format a bad one!!!

Said in the other thread, heaps of sides who got to the 98 WC did so with more losses, but they, like Pakistan here, qualified via different pools.

Like Sinatra said mate..

That's life.. That's what all the people say,
You're riding high in April
At the bottom of a bucket of **** in May..

Or something like that.

Nicely done. But diff being in football, win ratio and loss ratio are two seperate things. In other words, you might have lost less than the other team, but it doesn't mean you've WON more than the other.