So... we hear all the time about prayer breakfast, prayer brunch, prayer lunch, prayer snack, prayer dinner, prayer barbecue, prayer picnic, prayer potluck, etc. Good Lord in Heaven! Is that why so many church attendants, goers and members are so overweight even morbidly obese? Whatever happened to good old FASTING and Prayer? Since when eat and eat, pray a little, then eat more is a worthy spiritual exercise? Looks like BO is the only one doing a little fasting though clearly not a lot of prayer. Is gluttony an american christian value now? Since when?

Derek C

February 11, 201310:45am

@Jim G. -- thanks for your reasoned post.

J Thomas

February 10, 201311:25am

You know a tree by its fruit. Obama's fruit has placed Christians in increasingly difficult situations in America and around the world. The man claims to be a believer, but he completely disregards the Great Commission, sows divisiveness and discord among the faithful and non-faithful alike, and continually uses demonic Saul Alinsky tactics to gain political power. He has a lot to answer for. Much has been given him, much will be asked.

Tonyia Martin

February 10, 201311:20am

Jim I understand what you are saying, but I believe some of your justifications are not really biblical. Over and over again in the bible when a nation forgot about God, they began ritualistic practices that in the end resulted in completely abandoning God and his principles, such as the worship of other Gods that called for child sacrifice. God held the leaders of that country responsible due to laws having been created to worship other Gods. God judges hearts, not outward appearances, therefore God judged the heart of the spiritually lost leader, then the individual actions of the people that were responding to the culture of sin. Beyond all this is the very real fact it is a population control tool, which is why it continues to be allowed.

Jim Gustafson

February 10, 20137:04am

Abortion is a sin, but its guilt is borne by the woman who has it and the doctor who performs it, not by the nation which allows it. If no one in America had an abortion, yet it was legal, what sin would be committed? My making someone else free to sin does not make me guilty of the sin -- otherwise we have to rethink God's culpability regarding a little incident in the Garden. Besides, Obama alone cannot make abortion illegal. Congress, SCOTUS, etc. would somehow have to agree. Neither Bush nor Reagan stopped abortion, and indeed more abortions were performed per capita in Reagan's administration than in Obama's. Getting back on topic, I like the first half of Tonyia's post. The religion on display at most public forums is not biblical Christianity, but moralistic therapeutic individualistic monotheism. And that's been true for many decades in America.

Tonyia Martin

February 10, 20131:24am

I think this pretty well sums up Obama's religious philosophy. " Americans also know the close embrace of faith&mdash;Muslims Muslims and Jews, Hindus and Sikhs. And all Americans&mdash;whether religious or secular&mdash;have a deep and abiding faith in this nation."
Within this sense Christianity becomes mixed into a giant religious pot of opposing ideas, problems and debates, to eventually work itself out in the secular realm of thinking as faith in the nation being the most important. And of course, this is not really faith at all, as can be witnessed by many of his decisions.
As for Christian love I read mentioned, we can have all the Christian love we want, but it is a fact that with Christianity comes a responsibility to God, self and others. The choices of our leaders have consequences not only to our nation, but to the world, as do their words. There should never be a time when we become so complacent in our Christian duty that we fail to recognize that.

audrey ruth

February 10, 201312:46am

Jim Gustafson, are you defending Obama's unGodly immoral stands and using a prayer breakfast for politically self-serving action (asking for prayer that Republicans will get with his agenda) because of what Romney *might* have done? Anything Romney might have done is a moot point now -- he is completely out of the picture. Obama is back in office. Can you/will you not address what Obama has actually done?

mike feehan

February 09, 20131:45pm

So, I'm supposed to believe that the same individual that supported the killing of babies that survived an abortion is a Christian. Come on, people, not that stupid here.

mike feehan

February 09, 201312:24pm

Come on people, can you NOT SEE the absolute BS/Hypocricy in this??? Obama claims to be a Christian (what a joke that is), gets up at this prayer breakfast and says that he prays every day while this same fake Christian supports the slaughter of innocent children in the womb in the name of abortion, same sex marriage, and contraception and HARDLY ever goes to service. Again, people, get a clue. REAL CHRISTIANS do not support that crap.

J Thomas

February 09, 20139:39am

Jim, you reap what you sow. Obama has sown enmity. He should not expect to reap unity in response.

Jim Gustafson

February 09, 20137:40am

What would comments on this board read if Pres. Romney had offered the comments Obama did, and then prayed to Jesus the brother of Satan? What I see here is political animus toward Obama, and not much Christian love. And I am sorry to see -- again -- the great misuse of the 2 Chron passage. It does not apply to America in any way.

J Thomas

February 08, 201311:27pm

Obama sows derision, division, and divisiveness. Blessed are the peacemakers. He should have made a formal apology at that breakfast. He should have apologized for putting Christians at risk of martyrdom in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and Syria. he should have apologized for using Saul Alinsky's demonic political tactics against Christians with his famous "bitter clingers" rhetoric, trading unity for power. He should have sought repentance for forcing Christians who believe that abortion is murder (and who are justified philosophically in that belief) to pay for abortions. He should have sought repentance for trying to force churches to succumb to federal hiring laws (opening the door for the state to assume control of the church). Obama is in a position to unite us as believers, and he chooses instead to pit us against each other. Obama needs to seek God himself and leave the church edification for the more capable. He needs to open his ears.

audrey ruth

February 08, 20139:44pm

Amen, Ed mac. CT, yes, "Dr. Ben Carson best-selling author and director of pediatric neurosurgery at the Johns Hopkins, delivered the keynote address, and yes, Carson opened his speech with a denunciation of political correctness: "It's not my intention to offend people but we've got to get over sensitivity. It muffles and muzzles people and keeps them from discussing important issues. We must speak up for what we really believe." Is there not an article here which headlines, and gives the complete text of, his excellent speech? If not, why not? His speech was soundly Biblical. It is refreshing to know that Eric Metaxas, author of the popular Bonheoffer biography, delivered a powerful pro-life address in 2012. It is concerning that Obama would ask for prayer (albeit couched in political terms, while promoting syncretism), yet he obviously ignored that speech.

Ed mac

February 08, 20139:35pm

The best way to pray is to get rid of all the junk in our lives and pray to Jesus, God the Father, and the Holy Spirit
You cannot envoke other gods, other sources of help and expect God the creator of the Universe to act. The person praying needs to be living a life pleasing to God then he will answer.
If my people who are called by My Name, will Humble themselves, Pray, and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I (GOD) will hear from Heaven, and forgive their sin and heal their land. 2Chronicles, 7-14.
In my opinion this is the only way things will change.
Seek the God of the Bible.