(05-01-2012 01:45 PM)kingschosen Wrote: Again, you can't justify defacing someone's property. You don't "own" anything in that room, you are simply renting. You have zero right to destroy any property you are renting as it is not yours.

Like I said, if it's that much of an issue, speak to the hotel and have them remove the Bible. If that's too much of a hassle, ignore it.

They have the right to place a Bible in the room because the owners of the room said that they have a right to. That's their private property and they can do with it how they please.

Not really sure why you feel so entitled to destroy someone's property just because you don't agree with it.

SO..if i took the book home with me, was lead to the lord and lived a GIGANTIC life for christ......the act of 'stealing' that private property...is that OK?
The Gidz i have spoken with leave those books to be taken, which means they are giving up the rights of ownership. They are hoping some lost atheist like myself finds one warm and fuzzy verse that leads me to a life for baby jesus.

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Didn't know that fact. If that's the case, then it is your right to do whatever you like to them.

(05-01-2012 01:45 PM)kingschosen Wrote: Again, you can't justify defacing someone's property. You don't "own" anything in that room, you are simply renting. You have zero right to destroy any property you are renting as it is not yours.

Like I said, if it's that much of an issue, speak to the hotel and have them remove the Bible. If that's too much of a hassle, ignore it.

They have the right to place a Bible in the room because the owners of the room said that they have a right to. That's their private property and they can do with it how they please.

Not really sure why you feel so entitled to destroy someone's property just because you don't agree with it.

SO..if i took the book home with me, was lead to the lord and lived a GIGANTIC life for christ......the act of 'stealing' that private property...is that OK?
The Gidz i have spoken with leave those books to be taken, which means they are giving up the rights of ownership. They are hoping some lost atheist like myself finds one warm and fuzzy verse that leads me to a life for baby jesus.

D

Didn't know that fact. If that's the case, then it is your right to do whatever you like to them.

Answer my question please.

Here it is again......

SO..if i took the book home with me, was lead to the lord and lived a GIGANTIC life for christ......the act of 'stealing' that private property...is that OK?

WHEN IS IT "THEFT?"
So now we know what you CAN take without fear of arrest and incarceration. What is it that you can't legitimately spirit away from the hotel? What is considered "theft?"
Almost anything else.

WHEN IS IT "THEFT?"
So now we know what you CAN take without fear of arrest and incarceration. What is it that you can't legitimately spirit away from the hotel? What is considered "theft?"
Almost anything else.

(05-01-2012 02:01 PM)kingschosen Wrote: Yes. The act of stealing is wrong. If something good came from it, then so be it because there will always be exceptions; however, stealing something isn't right.

So taking a donkey (ass) from someone else without permission....stealing, right? :-)

(Just so you know i have heard the "God owns everything" apologetic on the ASS story as well as when Mary got impregnated, i found that argument even more tasteless as it related to mary).

(05-01-2012 02:25 PM)kingschosen Wrote:

(05-01-2012 02:22 PM)Denicio Wrote: Here's a link to a tavel website that covers a thing or two.....

WHEN IS IT "THEFT?"
So now we know what you CAN take without fear of arrest and incarceration. What is it that you can't legitimately spirit away from the hotel? What is considered "theft?"
Almost anything else.

(05-01-2012 02:01 PM)kingschosen Wrote: Yes. The act of stealing is wrong. If something good came from it, then so be it because there will always be exceptions; however, stealing something isn't right.

So taking a donkey (ass) from someone else without permission....stealing, right? :-)

(Just so you know i have heard the "God owns everything" apologetic on the ASS story as well as when Mary got impregnated, i found that argument even more tasteless as it related to mary).

And to be honest, if there isn't a law strictly prohibiting an act, then acts that are usually "immoral" but are done for a greater good, are in fact, not wrong. Like I said, there are always exceptions.

ex:
Killing an intruder.
Lying to protect someone's life who is innocent (such as lying to a Nazi soldier about harboring Jews during WWII).
Stealing objects that would cause harm from someone who is suicidal or manic.
etc

I'm very sorry to cut in, but I saw you wanted to know more about mormonism, Denicio. This is an old mormonism cartoon if any of you are interested. I found it amazing and have questioned my mormon friend to find out if this is true. They've changed some things but it is the gist of it.

(05-01-2012 03:53 PM)ShirubaDangan Wrote: I'm very sorry to cut in, but I saw you wanted to know more about mormonism, Denicio. This is an old mormonism cartoon if any of you are interested. I found it amazing and have questioned my mormon friend to find out if this is true. They've changed some things but it is the gist of it.