“None of that excuses what has happened and I take full
responsibility for my actions,” Vesbach wrote. “No one else is to blame
but me. As a result, LUHS has appropriately sent me home for the day. I
recommended that they not pay me.”

School administrators would not comment on whether Vesbach would face further disciplinary action.

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I think the "joke" was meant as a pun. Squaw bury shortcake as a pun of "Strawberry shortcake."

At least that is what I think she meant as a "joke."

Still, I maybe wrong.

Quoting LauraKW:

Perhaps you could explain the joke since I don't see the humor. You mentioned a play on words. I'm asking you to spell it out plainly. What exactly is the harmless funny part? You're a teacher, help me understand.

Quoting jlo1313:

I'm sorry you missed the joke at the end.

Quoting LauraKW:

What is the "fun" part?

Quoting jlo1313:

Sorry, I laughed. First, it is true, second, it is a fun way to teach math, third...get the stick out of you ass!

It's the internet, how is it personal? This is about you making sure everyone knows you're an ass. Nothing to do with any sized panties of mine. If you wore those big girl pants, you'd probably have the maturity and cooth that goes along with them, and talk normal to people, explain why you believe the way you do, what things mean to you, etc, rather than act violent. Do you really think people take violent people intellectually serious?

Quoting LauraKW:

Ok, you got butt-hurt because I didn't say "general you" so you keep taking personal cheap shots. I answered a question in an open forum where I am one of the few people who might find themselves in that particular situation. Don't ask public questions if you don't want public answers. I'm sorry you haven't grown into those big girl panties yet but you need to learn not to take things personally.

Quoting EireLass:

Yes, I know. Yes, I said 'not quite right'. I asked a specific person a question. Specific to her, as she had made a statement. You jumped in and said "You would punch me in the face". That's a little bit violent, don't you think? Normal people don't usually jump into a conversation with that being their opening line.

Quoting LauraKW:

Native Americans - I prefer the term Indian - cultures are not the same. We have our own languages - not just dialects, completely different languages. Our own customs, our own histories. Tribes have different governments, different Constitutions, different laws, different treaties with the US govt. We are all indigenous to this hemisphere, and our tribes basically had similar shitty outcomes with the US govt. I'm Cherokee. We tend to have higher or more prominent cheekbones than other tribes. I've noticed that Kiowa tend to have a sharper nasal ridge. I'm not terribly familiar with the Navajo but they seem to have darker skin than Cherokee in general - perhaps because the Cherokee originate from the North Carolina area and lived more in shaded areas than the Navajo who lived in more arid sun-baked lands. Using a word from one language, one culture, when there are hundreds of tribes - using one word to generally address all Native American women is marginalizing at best. I find it ironic that you threw the term "Oriental" in there. Something "not quite right" about the way I talk online - that is hyterical, I'm going to work that into a conversation somewhere.

Quoting EireLass:

"Within the same culture".....I'm saying it this way, rather than create a long drawn out paragraph. I figured you might be smart enough to catch on. Native Americans...not really grouping them together, yet I am. (meaning them as opposed to all people ie. Oriental, African American, etc etc) And because the only ones who've talked about this with experience are (supposed) Native Americans, and have identified they are with a particular tribe. From my experience, no they are not all the same. You have come out with your fists up....I don't think I was first to present you as a negative person. I'd say you did very well on that, yourself. There is something 'not quite right' with a person who talks as you have, online.

Quoting LauraKW:

Did I ever say "squaw" meant "cunt"? "Within the same cultures" - what cultures are you referring to? Do you think all Native Americans are the same, that we all have one culture? You seem very focused on presenting me as a negative person, intent on trying to make this personally about me. Why?

Quoting EireLass:

Well, yes, for you. Because you can only allow yourself for it to mean you're a cunt and nothing more. How is it that it can mean 2 totally different things within the same cultures? Or is it more that some people, such as yourself, will do anything to find negativity in things. That you are by nature, not happy unless you can bring misery into something? That you can only be violent rather than enlightening, etc?

Quoting LauraKW:

Ostensibly "colored" is merely a distiction of skin pigmentation. Though grammatically appropriate, I doubt a black person would tell you it is a term of respect. "Squaw" is not a term of respect no matter how it is spun.

Quoting EireLass:

So even though it only means woman, wouldn't you want to educate your husband and children on that? And wouldn't it really only make you roll your eyes at someone who's trying to be tough (by using derogatory terms) and has no clue that he's addressing you respectfully? If anything, I'd think it would make you laugh in their face.

Quoting fmchavez:

I have only ever been called a squaw in a derogatory manner. That word has horrible connotations despite the fact that it actually just means woman (especially since few who actually use this word know that). I would not be happy if my daughters brought this home. My husband would likely flip his lid (and that takes a lot from him, he doesn't even honk the horn in the car when it's warranted).

Oh, I get the gist. I just want someone to tell me why Squaw Berry Shortcake could be seen as anything but offensive.

Quoting Donna6503:

I think the "joke" was meant as a pun. Squaw bury shortcake as a pun of "Strawberry shortcake."

At least that is what I think she meant as a "joke."

Still, I maybe wrong.

Quoting LauraKW:

Perhaps you could explain the joke since I don't see the humor. You mentioned a play on words. I'm asking you to spell it out plainly. What exactly is the harmless funny part? You're a teacher, help me understand.

Quoting jlo1313:

I'm sorry you missed the joke at the end.

Quoting LauraKW:

What is the "fun" part?

Quoting jlo1313:

Sorry, I laughed. First, it is true, second, it is a fun way to teach math, third...get the stick out of you ass!

If a person didn't know that squaw was an offensive term, then the joke wouldn't have been offensive. A friend told me this one the other day, "What is Katniss's favorite type of chip?" Answer: "Pita chip" It is just playing around with language.

Quoting LauraKW:

Oh, I get the gist. I just want someone to tell me why Squaw Berry Shortcake could be seen as anything but offensive.

Quoting Donna6503:

I think the "joke" was meant as a pun. Squaw bury shortcake as a pun of "Strawberry shortcake."

Neither "pita" nor "chip" is offensive. Calling someone "squaw" and / or stereotyping Native American nomenclature is offensive. I will say I am shocked that so many claim not to know squaw is offensive.

Quoting desertlvn:

If a person didn't know that squaw was an offensive term, then the joke wouldn't have been offensive. A friend told me this one the other day, "What is Katniss's favorite type of chip?" Answer: "Pita chip" It is just playing around with language.

Quoting LauraKW:

Oh, I get the gist. I just want someone to tell me why Squaw Berry Shortcake could be seen as anything but offensive.

Quoting Donna6503:

I think the "joke" was meant as a pun. Squaw bury shortcake as a pun of "Strawberry shortcake."