Twilosophy of Sad Endings

Posted by themoonisdown on December 13th, 2010

Dear Twilight and your readers,

On the heels of a the season finale of Dexter last night I got to thinking about sad endings and how no one’s immune to them even vampires and werewolves and their human friends. We all know how the Twilight saga ends and whether Bella ends up with who you want or how it all happens it’s not without it’s sad moments much like Dexter. He loses her

Jacob and Bella – *sigh* I know most of you ladies are Team Edward but can we please have a moment for what could have been for Bella and Jacob. If it wasn’t for that blasted Mercedes in the rear view mirror and maybe a few more months they could have ended up together in a relationship that started as friends and grew to much more. I think I *sigh* for Jacob because we’ve all been the second choice at some point and that’s painful. We know the outcome is for the best but it doesn’t make it any less of a sad ending.

Edward leaves Bella – duh.

They're NOT bears... or happy endings

Harry Clearwater dies – While Bella’s off being an emo teenager and cliff jumping for attention poor Harry Clearwater is having a fat heart attack which leaves Sue without a husband (cue Charlie), Charlie without a BFF and Leah and Seth without a Dad not to mention the tribe without one of it’s leaders. But really no kid should lose their parent especially when they’re going through crazy stuff like turning into a werewolf because of their anger control issues and not to mention a little something called the werewolf gene. We love ya Clearwater family!

The Leah, Sam and Emily love triangle – What a mess this one is. Thanks a lot to the magic of imprinting Leah loses her boyfriend to HER COUSIN (oh no she’s DIDN’T!) and Emily gets her face all mangled because Sam didn’t know WTF was happening to him. THEN Leah is forced to run patrols around the Cullen house in a cruel twist of fate Leah becomes a werewolf herself and has to hear ALL of Sam’s dirty boy thoughts about Emily AND THEN because Jacob refuses to leave Bella and eventually Renesmee she has to run what seems like 50 chapters worth of patrols around the Cullen house meaning she has to eat rare meat. OH THE HUMANITY!

Obviously these girls lost a bet

Mike Newton – No one’s Team Mike Newton, even though he could get your 15% off on those rad hiking boots at Newton Outfitters. Let’s all have a moment for Mike. We’ve definitely all been the Jacob where it just didn’t work out but what about never even leaving the bench.

And of course, poor Buttcrack Santa. The guy seemed like a recovering alcoholic who loved bringing joy to Children in the Forks area during Christmas and how is he repaid? By getting offed in the the dingy boat marina by some bored nomadic vampires with meth face (James).

Charlie and Renee – We’ll never know what really happened with Charlie and Renee since this isn’t their story but we do know it’s tragic that Charlie would lose his daughter to a flaky Mom who got bored of living in Forks. Sure, it’s not the glamourous metropolis that Phoenix, Arizona is but you’re married to the copstache, the built in Halloween costume possibilities are reason enough to stay. Let alone your DAUGHTER.

Oh sad moments… you make me sadder. But that’s part of the charm of Twilight and why we love it, right? Who can’t identify with sad moments? As for that Dexter finale???? EPIC SAD FACE.

🙁
Themoonisdown

What other sad moments did I miss? Did you watch the Dexter finale? Will you hold me?

The Dexter finale made me sad too, Moon! Poor Dex! But how great was Deb?

You know what made me sad? Poor Laurent. How sad is it being the only black man in the book or the movies. Only to be killed off for listening to Victoria’s ridiculous plans.

No wait! There’s movie Tyler. That poor kid didn’t even make it into the sequels. Luckily it looks like Breaking Dawn is bringing the diversity. Maybe they’ll invite him to the wedding?

Let’s not forget poor Jane. Spending eternity as a grumpy face preteen? No wonder she likes making people cower in pain. A kid has got to find her fun somewhere!

Oh and Aro and his boys…those hairstyles are so renaissance. The lack of wardrobe updating makes me weep.

I am so just joking about this…well except for the diversity. Twilight is kind of like Friends, until the let Aisha Tyler on for those like 6 episodes.

Anonymous

I do have a curiously sad spot for Laurent, not because of diversity, just that he wasn’t all that bad, he kinda liked the Cullens and felt bad about James being such a douchey maniac. He thought he would be doing Bella a favor by him killing her instead of Victoria, no bad feelings. Besides he has the best accent.

TeamSeth

Yeah, Laurent was pretty good all in all. Besides, if he’d not been hungry when he stumbled upon Bella, he would’ve just gone back to Irina and then the whole anticlimatic ending wouldn’t have happened.

And I thought that Laurent was a super pale french dude with long black hair in the book?

Anonymous

You are right my dear, he wasn’t a black guy in the book.

In the book Laurant was described as; tall, olive-toned skin (under his chalky parlor of course), medium build and glossy, cropped black hair.

I too (given his name) took him as a French dude.

Anonymous

Didn’t think of that–if the wolves hadn’t killed him, Irina wouldn’t have been so pissed off and we could have avoided that little misunderstanding with the Volturi!

GeminiGypsy

It’s also going to be sad when Breaking Dawn comes out in movie form- it’s going to be over! No more crazy twi-fanatics, but also no more opportunities for me to obsess over Twilight :'( I’ll still continue to re-read the series every so often, but I think everthing will cool down majorly.

ThePlaneFriend

A few more sad things:

Diego and BREE–I think it would suck to fall in love for one DAY and then die after being tortured.

Edward–having to live through Jacob’s replay of the after-tent-scene kiss–the day after he finally got Bella to agree to marry him.

Nahuel–having to live with knowing he killed his mother…and if he was really falling for Nessie, also losing the girl of his dreams (b/c c’mon, Stephenie wouldn’t have Nessie and Nahuel hook up after putting him through all that angst over Bella, would she?)

Emmet–b/c who cares how pretty she is, he has to put up with Rosalie.

And, finally, us–b/c Midnight Sun and/or the Nessie/Leah narrated sequel to the saga probably aren’t going to be finished for a LONG, LONG time.

Anonymous

Bree = sad for sure. I think even SM said that she wished she had written a different ending for her.

ThePlaneFriend

Oops, in the Nahuel section, I meant that SM wouldn’t put Jacob through all that just to lose Nessie too. Sorry, can’t type.

Anonymous

I think all those clueless tourists heading into the jaws of the Volturi (literally) was pretty heartbreaking. Didn’t they even show some kids in the movie? Or how about Jasper killing that kid in the flashback scene in Eclipse? Ack. Kids getting hurt gets me every time.

Speaking of kids, we named our little boy Dexter right about the same time the series came out (we were not aware of the series). We have had to explain more than a few times that no, he was not named after a benevolent serial killer, but rather, my husband’s grandfather.

Stacey

Ha Ha Ha! That is awesome. Also a great name, television show or not!

efam

A friend of mine texted me that she met a 2 year old named “Cullen”. She said she had to bite her tongue to keep from asking the parents if they were Twilight fans. That’s a cute name too…but their timing seems a little more like they are fans.

Anonymous

Afternoon everyone! I too cannot stand anything that hurts children and I still CANNOT watch those poor tourists (I always feel like I would be one of them wanting to see the cool stuff while on vacation and ending up in the Volturi “dining room”, cause that is how my luck goes lol)! STILL waiting to see Eclipse! The wait is torture!!! Hope all is well in your world! Hugs!!

Anonymous

Hey!! Glad you’re here!

Just WHAT is the holdup with Eclipse? Ask someone to get it from Redbox for you. True, it doesn’t have any commentaries, so that’s pretty lame, but at least you can see the movie!

Anonymous

Oooooh, I never even thought of that! Note to self: Do NOT under any circumstances follow a mysteriously beautiful woman into the basement of a medieval castle while in Italy in a few weeks. If I disappear, you’ll know why. Please be sure to alert the proper authorities (aka, have Jacob or Edward or Taylor Lautner come rescue me).

Sj_nuiph

Dear KitKat, every time you post my heart zings, I’m in love with your avi. Only problem is I can’t seem to move on to read the rest of the posts. Maybe you could randomly hit reply throughout the comments so I can make it to the end. 😉

Anonymous

*sigh* Disqus, your heart is nearly as black as Summit’s.

Anonymous

Hi Sj! 🙂

Anonymous

Don’t worry kitkat…all of the ladies of LTT will volunteer to come rescue you!!! Enjoy and take lots of pictures of Italy please!!!

Anonymous

Oooooh, I never even thought of that! Note to self: Do NOT under any circumstances follow a mysteriously beautiful woman into the basement of a medieval castle while in Italy in a few weeks. If I disappear, you’ll know why. Please be sure to alert the proper authorities (aka, have Jacob or Edward or Taylor Lautner come rescue me).

Sj_nuiph

That little girl who smiles and points at ‘Sparkles’ in NM movie, that was so sad. Damn you Edward, the only way I can forgive him is if he comes and does my ironing while I sleep.

LatersBaby

I can think of a few more things he can do for my forgiveness,

Anonymous

Let’s all have a moment of silence for the tragedy that is Marcus and Didyme, lost in the triangle of Aro’s jealousy and manipulations. Who knows maybe it was a family trait and poor Aro was just cutting his loses. Whether Marcus lost his true love or was caught under the influence of Didyme we’ll never know. To me Marcus would have been Edwards future minus a lot of wrinkled frown lines. </3
On the Human front, how about poor Lauren, clearly the girl's envy was just a cry for the love she never received from her father..okay I'm reacting there, but it could happen. What did Stephanie tell us about her life after twilight? She had a failed modeling career.
Chief Billy Black, single dad with a set of twins and a son. His sorrow at the loss of his wife, his daughters abandoning him and his son cursed/blessed with the blood line but refused to take the Alpha roll. He must sit alone in his wheel chair crying over losing Sue to Charlie who seemed to have bonded over having freak children. Poor Poor Billy.

cdubs

How about Fred? Having to go thru life saying: yeah, I’ve got a special talent baby! It’s being so stinky people can’t even look my way. Wanna make out?

Anonymous

I read somewhere (here, maybe?) that SM said she never thought of Fred’s talent as being “stinky,” but I sure read it that way! (As did, I imagine, nearly everyone else in who read The Short Second Life). He’s supposed to be just inexplicably repellant or something like that. Either way, yeah, no thanks. Poor Fred.

TeamSeth

The Pig-Pen of the Twilight world?

TeamSeth

The Pig-Pen of the Twilight world?

Anonymous

I remember that too…. and since I but rarely look at another Twilight site any longer (it’s just you LTT) I would guess it was here…. perhaps one of the clips Moon & UC posted with their discussions with Stephenie when they got to meet her…. because for some reason my memory is that I can “hear” Stephenie’s voice explaining the story, it’s not text…. hmmm that sounds odd doesn’t it?

Anonymous

Nope, doesn’t sound odd. I think you’re right. That’s actually how I remember it, too. I just wrote “read” not “heard,” I’m not sure why.

And as for LTT or nothing – me, too. I have no other link to the Fandom.

Anonymous

LOL – come on. It DOES sound a LITTLE weird that I’m hearing Stephenie’s voice in my head. 😀 Just a little though because that’s kinda Normal. hahaha

Yep, I but rarely check another site. Occasionally Stephenie’s or maybe one or two others if I am waiting for news or heard there’s good stuff on another site (that someone said here). 🙂

*sings to LTT* I only have eyes…. for yooooouuuu!

Anonymous

Poor Fred! I want him to fall in love and have a happy ending because Bree and Diego couldn’t. Maybe Leah will imprint on him. I hope that we somehow hear about him again when Stephenie writes her sequels to the series.

I mean, when she doesn’t write the sequels because there’s no way she could. Ever. Do that.

Anonymous

That’s an interesting idea… Is it physically possible for a werewolf to imprint on a vampire? Nessie’s only half vamp, so that doesn’t count. Could Leah ever go for a full blooded (heh) vampire?

Anonymous

That is a VERY good question.

See, I thought not. But then Jacob imprinted on little Nessie and my reasonings went right out the window.

However, Nessie IS different (understatement). I would bet that, say, Leah wouldn’t ever imprint on like Naheul (or another 1/2 vamp) but that any of the other wolf boys would have the possibility to imprint on say, one of Naheul’s sisters. And none would ever imprint on a full-vamp.

The distinction? Glad you asked. 😀

Nessie is venom-less as are all of Naheul’s sisters, but no Naheul (why do I keep feeling like I’m spelling his name wrong). Since venom isn’t something that would change a wolf-boy/girl but kill them, I would bet that their imprinting would repel that person. Nessie can’t kill Jake with venom because she doesn’t have any.

Just one theory….

Anonymous

Excellently reasoned. I wonder if the venom is also what produces the smell? I don’t have my copy of BD, but I’m trying to remember the wolves’ reaction to Nahuel. Did he ‘smell’ like a vampire to them, with that supposedly sickly sweet odor?

Anonymous

Question: (maybe this has been discussed on here before, I can’t remember)
Has it been established that Leah can imprint at all?

Because if the whole point of imprinting, as I seem to remember it, is an “evolutionary” mechanism to ensure that they will have strong offspring. So, if Leah can’t menstruate, (at least while she is shape-shifting on a regular basis) she can’t reproduce. So what would be the point of her imprinting at all? AND unless the vamp or half-vamp is an incubus like Edward, there would be no point of imprinting on one.

Anonymous

That’s an interesting idea… Is it physically possible for a werewolf to imprint on a vampire? Nessie’s only half vamp, so that doesn’t count. Could Leah ever go for a full blooded (heh) vampire?

Anonymous

She’s pretty repellant and prickly herself, so, yeah, they do have something in common.

Anonymous

Find Fred!!!!

Anonymous

I am always amazed when critics of Twilight say that “everything works out and no one sacrifices anything” by the end. Um, no. The series has some pretty dark moments. Maybe the series doesn’t ever end in a full-fledged bloodbath – aside from the tourists at the Volturi’s residence – but there are a lot of broken hearts and painful emotions and memories that the characters are left with. As mentioned, at the forefront are a lot of sad endings caused by Bella’s -erm- I won’t say the “c” word – (and I mean the word that ends in “hoices”) – the biggest example of course being that Bella had to give up a normal, happy life with Jacob, breaking his heart in the process, to be with Edward. I mean, imagine having that hanging over Edward’s head for the rest of his life. “Bella, I don’t feel like doing the dishes tonight. Do you mind if I wait til tomorrow?” – “Edward, No way! I became a vampire for you and am going to live for all eternity with you and our mutant offspring. The least you can do is do the dishes tonight!”

Stacey

Somehow. I see Edward always doing the dishes. Always cleaning the house, his car, Bella’s blood stained clothes. Edward seems to be a little OCD. He probably cleaned Bella’s room every night while he ‘watched’ her sleep.

efam

And yet another reason why I love Edward…

Anonymous

“And yet another reason why I love Edward” 🙂 Like we need ANOTHER reason, but thinking about it, can’t you just see Bella/Edward going into super vampire speed and doing everything that needed to be done (oh especially during the holiday season, pull up a tree one handed 🙂 ) in like a minute…but come to think of it, that would make eternity really really long and boring..although that leaves plenty of time for…well..you know… 🙂 (I hope they at least take their time in that dept.)

Anonymous

“And yet another reason why I love Edward” 🙂 Like we need ANOTHER reason, but thinking about it, can’t you just see Bella/Edward going into super vampire speed and doing everything that needed to be done (oh especially during the holiday season, pull up a tree one handed 🙂 ) in like a minute…but come to think of it, that would make eternity really really long and boring..although that leaves plenty of time for…well..you know… 🙂 (I hope they at least take their time in that dept.)

Anonymous

“And yet another reason why I love Edward” 🙂 Like we need ANOTHER reason, but thinking about it, can’t you just see Bella/Edward going into super vampire speed and doing everything that needed to be done (oh especially during the holiday season, pull up a tree one handed 🙂 ) in like a minute…but come to think of it, that would make eternity really really long and boring..although that leaves plenty of time for…well..you know… 🙂 (I hope they at least take their time in that dept.)

Anonymous

Am I the only one who finds that a little creepy? (Cleaning her room in the middle of the night)

Anonymous

For the record, if anyone wants to sneak into my house in the middle of the night and clean my bathroom/kitchen/bedroom or do the laundry/dishes/put up the Christmas tree, have at it. I don’t care if it’s creepy. Shut the door tight on the way out, because it has a tendency to blow open. Or use the window, whichever.

Anonymous

WHAT SHE SAID NO COOL NAME!!!…ESPECIALLY IF IT’S EDDIE!!! Although honestly, cleaning my house would be the LAST THING on my mind if I were to see Edward coming through my window!!! Just sayin… 🙂

Anonymous

I suppose it speaks to my current state as a pregnant mother of four kids under the age of six that, no, if I saw Edward sneaking in my window my first thought would be to direct him to the closet where all the cleaning supplies are and to ask him to keep it down, I’m reeeeal tired tonight.

Anonymous

I find it marginally less creepy than him sitting there staring at her all night. Especially if he does the ironing.

Anonymous

Apparently I am.

Anonymous

You’re still normal.

TeamSeth

Now hold on just one minute! I never got this “Bella had to give up a normal, happy life with Jacob”

Normal? NORMAL? When did werewolves become normal? I mean, half the time he’s “got a vampire to kill.” No, just because she’s still human flesh and blood with beating heart and gets to eat Emily’s giant marionberry muffins everyday and gain 30 lbs a week does not make her life normal with Jacob.

Anonymous

Hold on another minute… Jacob is a shapeshifter.

And not to be the world’s biggest Twinerd or anything, but… if Bella had chosen Jacob, wouldn’t Edward and his family have moved away, thus saving the shapeshifterwolves from having to become, well, wolves forever? Wasn’t it explained that they’d go back to being normal people if there were no vampires around to force them to shift?

Quil Clout Lay 4 eva!

Anonymous

I feel like Ellie right now:

Anonymous

“I was like YES! I wanna bake cookies on your stomach!”

I love that quote especially with the way “Ellie” says it whilst giving sex eyes to the topless Jacob folder pic as she lovingly strokes it.

Anonymous

I still cannot make myself watch this clip. Fan fail?

Anonymous

Chiquita! You are missing out!

It is a favorite SNL skit. Taylor (“Mariana”) in a skirt. Taylor talking about loving Edward. Taylor making out with a pic of Edward. I laughed and laughed (even though the ending fell a little flat). But the rest? Epic. It’s even set in biology class, studying the same subject Mr Molina was teaching on that ever fatefull day in Twi.

Hopefully if you break down and watch it I didn’t talk it up too much to disapoint. But if you don’t watch it, I must remind you, “Notebooks are for notes. Not for kissing” and “Edward’s a boy!” even though he “sparkles like a princess’ tiara”

I’m giggling again.

Anonymous

Maybe if I mix up a batch of Cougaritas, put on my Ms Potato Head Squinty Eyes and have a batch of brain bleach on standby..

PS Moon & UC: My boss’s computer seems to be having a ‘complicated’ relationship with Discqus.

Anonymous

DO IT!

😀

PS – Disqus and my phone had a hate/hate relationship. But after lengthy emails back and forth with UC, calls into T-Mobile IT, emails back and forth with Disqus IT, I can now comment on my phone! (embarrassment at every turn, “I’m tweaking over being unable to comment on a Twilight site from my phone”) But we all ganged up on them and made them play nice. Do we need to do the same with your boss’ computer…. wait. Hahahahahaha! You’re commenting on LTT from your boss’ computer? Bold girlie. Bold.

Anonymous

Shhhh! Don’t tell!

Anonymous

hahaha

Well I won’t but the computer might. Make sure you view “In Privage” and/or delete cookies, cache, history & temp internet files….. not that I have any experience in attempting to mask my LTT visits…. ahem

Anonymous

You are WAY missing out! No brain bleach will be required for this one (not even a cougarita), trust. Just don’t look at the other clips from that SNL ep…brain bleach MAY be required for those.

Yeeess! Although I still think ‘girl in park’ in BD would have been a better choice for Jacob than Bella.

Anonymous

I liked her!

That was a sad ending for her. Poor girl in the park.

TeamSeth

She was the best… though I wonder if she was only into him for his car…

Anonymous

Truth. She WAS quite interested in the Vanquish.

Despite that though, she somehow came off as genuinely concerned and interested in Jacob. That she was just using the car for a conversation starter.

Oh what the hell am I talking about? She was just a little gold-digging tramp.

Anonymous

Indeed. I am not however. I was always partial to VW rabbits…

Anonymous

I just googled Vanquish cars – OMG, I no longer judge ‘girl-in-the-park’, I would totally gold-dig that even if it was Fred standing next to it.

Anonymous

And it wasn’t even his car – would she ditch him and run to Edward when she found out the truth? Biotch!

Anonymous

And it wasn’t even his car – would she ditch him and run to Edward when she found out the truth? Biotch!

Anonymous

And it wasn’t even his car – would she ditch him and run to Edward when she found out the truth? Biotch!

TeamSeth

What you say is true, well, sort of. Time to attempt an Twinerd-off (clears throat).
Jacob would always have the gene, even if he didn’t have to turn anymore due to vampires being gone. In the book it explains that over time you can turn it off–control it. But only over time. That the wolves are quite a bit older when they can finally quit fursploding. It’s not a lifestyle choice, they have to work really hard at it. I don’t think I could define my life as normal if my baby was constantly in danger of a fursploding daddy.

Also, the reason that they stay wolves isn’t because there are vampires in town, the reason they BECOME wolves is because there are vampires in town or nearby (Seattle). So, it cannot be fully argued that once the Cullens left town they’d quit being wolves. In fact, with only Victoria around, they start sprouting up like daisies, after all the Cullens had left town! Why then, with the Cullens around for a few years, did only Sam change, and only a year before?

Lastly, I want to ask a question that I’ve always wondered. Stephenie, if you’re reading, feel free to pitch in. So based on the mythology, werewolves can kill vampires. However, as Caius is chagrined to learn in Breaking Dawn, the wolfpack we’ve come to know and love isn’t actually werewolves, they’re shapeshifters. Anyway, as such, they shapeshift into … wolves– right? I mean, it never says they shift into werewolves, yet they do? I’ve never understood this. Are we just supposed to infer that they are shifting into full on werewolves (and if so, wouldn’t the lunar cycle affect them like it does actual werewolves–those discussed as living in Europe before Cauis had them slaughtered — oh, another sad ending). So, what’s the deal, are they wolves (giant ones) or werewolves? Or are they werewolves with benefits?

Anonymous

*Twi nerd-off in progress.*

“Jacob would always have the gene, even if he didn’t have to turn anymore due to vampires being gone.” True. “In the book it explains that over time you can turn it off–control it.” Yes. I am sure Bella could have figured out a way to relax him…and help him control it by, uh, diverting his attention elsewhere.

“Also, the reason that they stay wolves isn’t because there are vampires in town, the reason they BECOME wolves is because there are vampires in town or nearby (Seattle).” Bella and Jacob would have moved somewhere without vamps. Like sunny Southern California, perhaps.

“Lastly, I want to ask a question that I’ve always wondered. Stephenie, if you’re reading, feel free to pitch in.” I’m glad someone just said what we’ve all been thinking since June.

Personally, however, I like the werewolves with benefits theory.

TeamSeth

Well, if we go further with this, I think we’re going to have to define what we’re discussing. Because my argument was that she wouldn’t have a normal life with Jacob (vs. Edward), not that they could pull a Tim Gunn and ‘make it work.’

The point was that regardless of whether or not there are vampires around, Jacob is already a wolf. (I will also point out, not on the topic of her having a normal life, but rather on the you wouldn’t have to change for me topic, that having to move cities because your werewolf hubs can’t be normal human would be considered change. She’d be dissing her dad, just like Renee did, and Jacob would be leaving his dad, just like his sisters both did! Sigh.)

I definitely want to know what the answer to that question is!

Anonymous

I am totally cool with not going further since I too have lost the gist of what we were discussing.

I think the bottom line is that Bella = Not Normal.

By the way, I know I often come off as all Team Jacoby around here, but in reality when I read the books I was every bit as in love with Edward – if not more – than Jacob. Jacob was a little messed up in the books and not always my cup of tea. I find myself sometimes confusing the heartwarming, well-built, meat patty, cuddly Alpacaness of TayTay Jake in the movie with the kind and friendly yet sort of delusional Jake in the books. Meanwhile Edward in the books was all Greek God Apollo Dreamboat, sensitive and concerned, even if he was a bit stalkerish, whereas most of the time in the movies (and don’t come after me with pitchforks, LTRers,) Ron-ward is just simply too white makeup-y angsty for my taste. But that’s a whole other discussion. My point here is to add the disclaimer that I’m all for book Bella ending up with book Edward.

TeamSeth

You and I see eye-to-eye on Edward and Rob here. Though, I never saw him as Apollo… I think that’d be reserved for the one who is described as being his own sun.

Though, Tay doesn’t ‘do it’ for me, though kitkat’s avi is pretty hot, not gonna lie. And book Jake was rad until he fursploded into a moody mess. Oh well.

Anonymous

Doesn’t it say somewhere that if Taha Aki had chosen some other animal at first, they would all be that animal? So if he had chosen a deer or something, we would all be in love with shapeshifting deer? If I recall correctly, it was their magic that allowed them to be able to destroy the vampires, and a stroke of luck that they are wolves.

TeamSeth

Yes, it does say that, or they said that in the film anyway. I kind of wish they were deer… or snow owls… Then it’d be like Harry Potter’s patronus and/or Hedwig! 🙂

Or, better yet, as a reference to the whole owl/foresting saga years ago up here, if they shapeshifted into the Northern Spotted Owl, which was severely threatened due to habitat destruction in the Olympic peninsula. Er, wow, I’m a nerd. But that’d be so rad if they did the vampire attack with their giant talons and had these epic screeches. Then when Jake hung out with Bella he could chill on her forearm and let out a cute little owl ‘hoo’. Sigh… if only.

Anonymous

Owls are REALLY cute.

Anonymous

Don’t know what you’r talking about. I know a ton of werewolves. I thought that was TOTALLY normal.

TeamSeth

Well, excuuuuuse me. 😉 Maybe SWD can put your comment on a tshirt.

Anonymous

Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!

TeamSeth

Now hold on just one minute! I never got this “Bella had to give up a normal, happy life with Jacob”

Normal? NORMAL? When did werewolves become normal? I mean, half the time he’s “got a vampire to kill.” No, just because she’s still human flesh and blood with beating heart and gets to eat Emily’s giant marionberry muffins everyday and gain 30 lbs a week does not make her life normal with Jacob.

TeamSeth

Now hold on just one minute! I never got this “Bella had to give up a normal, happy life with Jacob”

Normal? NORMAL? When did werewolves become normal? I mean, half the time he’s “got a vampire to kill.” No, just because she’s still human flesh and blood with beating heart and gets to eat Emily’s giant marionberry muffins everyday and gain 30 lbs a week does not make her life normal with Jacob.

TeamSeth

Now hold on just one minute! I never got this “Bella had to give up a normal, happy life with Jacob”

Normal? NORMAL? When did werewolves become normal? I mean, half the time he’s “got a vampire to kill.” No, just because she’s still human flesh and blood with beating heart and gets to eat Emily’s giant marionberry muffins everyday and gain 30 lbs a week does not make her life normal with Jacob.

TeamSeth

Now hold on just one minute! I never got this “Bella had to give up a normal, happy life with Jacob”

Normal? NORMAL? When did werewolves become normal? I mean, half the time he’s “got a vampire to kill.” No, just because she’s still human flesh and blood with beating heart and gets to eat Emily’s giant marionberry muffins everyday and gain 30 lbs a week does not make her life normal with Jacob.

Vera

And what about Edward? Married to Bella (oh such a boring carachter), Renesmee´s daddy (a child that match Bella and Jacob) and … he needs to find compassion enough to bear Jacob, wherever Edward goes… Jacob will go after.

Anonymous

And what about Edward? Married to Bella (oh such a boring carachter), Renesmee´s daddy (a child that match Bella and Jacob) and … he needs to find compassion enough to bear Jacob, wherever Edward goes… Jacob will go after.

efam

Wow! Moon, you just made me realize that Bella and Leah COULD be stepsisters, because Bella saw a connection at Christmas between Charlie and Sue in BD, right? Hmm…I’ve never thought about it that far.
Ugh, I’m in dire need of some Twilight side stories…especially a Jacob/Renesmee series!!
I was thinking the other day that if Stephenie wrote a series on pink bunnies, I was totally read it. She’s such an amazing writer.

TeamSeth

oh.my.god. Leah and Bella step-sisters! Wow, I never thought of it that way before. Insanity!

TeamSeth

oh.my.god. Leah and Bella step-sisters! Wow, I never thought of it that way before. Insanity!

TeamSeth

oh.my.god. Leah and Bella step-sisters! Wow, I never thought of it that way before. Insanity!

TeamSeth

oh.my.god. Leah and Bella step-sisters! Wow, I never thought of it that way before. Insanity!

TeamSeth

oh.my.god. Leah and Bella step-sisters! Wow, I never thought of it that way before. Insanity!

blackgirltwihard

Aren’t we all grieving for Dexter’s ‘broken heart? (“Don’t go” *tears*) Lumen’s flaky ass better come back preferably knocked up with a sociopathic/ born to kill offspring!! UGH!!! Damn her! But like how Edward left, somehow I think we’ll see her again. Sad Twi-ness: Rosalie is gang raped/ Edwards totally disses Tonya/Esme suffered a miscarriage/ Jasper was Maria’s love slave/ Bree Tanner RIP/ Victoria played Riley like a harp from hell ( VICTORIAAAAA!!!!)/I think there was an illusion to a possible Billy/Sue/Charlie love twi-angle, where Billy comes up short/Two Sisters watch another sister die… blown!/Oh yeah and one of those guards Alec or somebody, obviously has some unrequited lust for Bella.
Yes, Moon I’ll hold you, but if for some reason Michael C. Hall needs to be held at the same time, you’re to the curb…jk…but seriously.! LOL!!! Loves the post!

Anonymous

Hmmm, unrequited lust for Bella from a guard? That sounds vaguely familiar.

If I remember correctly, Alec and Jane were going to be burned at the stake for being witches, when Aro “rescued” them by making them vamps. I thought that was a rather sad story.

TeamSeth

It was Felix. (not that I’m annoyed they cut out the winking scene from NM or anything… why would I be annoyed that they didn’t let me see Daniel Cudmore wink and smirk? Yeah. I’d never be annoyed about that. eff you summit.)

Anonymous

Like what?

TeamSeth

sigh. Sadly, no, there was never that scene and it was deleted (unlike the friggin epically awesome Angela/Bella graduation announcements scene! It couldn’t ruin the flow, David! It simply could not.) No, that scene is only in the book… But I will continue to imagine Daniel winking at me, not in vampire makeup, while we’re at Canucks vs. Penguins game cuddling center ice seats. Er, wait.

TeamSeth

cuddling in center ice seats… not cuddling seats. That’d be weird.

Anonymous

You never know! It might be one of the scenes they cut that they never talked about. Summit reads LTT. They’ll add it to their list to tack on to the “full series package” features.

(Adds more coins to piggy bank…)

TeamSeth

embarrassing moment: I do know because in all of Daniel Cudmore’s interviews, he talks about how he decided to play the role, and someone asks why he didn’t take the winking direction like in the book, and he says something like he doesn’t think Felix would do that because Felix was really just trying to show his dominance over Bella. What he wanted to say was that he was too in love with me to be able to flirt with anyone else, even on camera 😉

blackgirltwihard

LMAO!!! Yeah I came back up here to day to write that it was Felix. all these BD names …I loose track. Re-listening to it @ work today …CANNOT WAIT FOR ARO in BD2..Sheen will be as flawless as ever. It was as if he was MADE to play ARO!!!

TeamSeth

Seriously on the Sheen! I feel like he may be the only person who read his character’s lines in the book because he actually matches Aro’s diction and pacing to the precise level. When I reread the epic ending that was as anticlimatic as Bella’s attempt at sexy times in Edward’s room, I was like, “ZOMG MICHAEL I LOVE YOU!” and I could completely imagine him rocking all of those lines.

TeamSeth

It was Felix. (not that I’m annoyed they cut out the winking scene from NM or anything… why would I be annoyed that they didn’t let me see Daniel Cudmore wink and smirk? Yeah. I’d never be annoyed about that. eff you summit.)

TeamSeth

It was Felix. (not that I’m annoyed they cut out the winking scene from NM or anything… why would I be annoyed that they didn’t let me see Daniel Cudmore wink and smirk? Yeah. I’d never be annoyed about that. eff you summit.)

TeamSeth

It was Felix. (not that I’m annoyed they cut out the winking scene from NM or anything… why would I be annoyed that they didn’t let me see Daniel Cudmore wink and smirk? Yeah. I’d never be annoyed about that. eff you summit.)

Vanessa

Poor Dex! Aahh I knew it was coming though. Love seeing his emotion though. Such a nice change. Deb- sooo great! Did you get the feeling that she secretly knows what Dexter is/does?

Anonymous

Hmm, I had never really thought about the many sad endings in the series. I guess I was just so focused on the main trio that I didn’t give anyone else’s happiness or lack thereof much thought.

All this Dexter talk has got me itching to watch again. I only got through Season 2 on my instant Netflix account. But I know someone who owns seasons 3 & 4. Gotta borrow them and watch!

Anonymous

I have to say I’ve been super disappointed in Dexter this season and really couldn’t stand Julia Stiles’s acting. Just sayin. It was a sad ending for Dexter, but also rather tidy and hard to believe that he got off like that from Quinn. The whole season was rather…meh for me.

With regard to sad Twi endings, my biggest regret is that Riley had to die and now we don’t get any more Xavier…oh heyyyyy….

Seriously. I just got the Eclipse DVD yesterday and he was definitely the highlight for me this time. Hot sauce.

TeamSeth

You’re back! I will say I miss your adorable dog pic… but, you know, this avi is hot 😀

Yeah, the loss of Xavier is tragic. Sigh.

Anonymous

Also not having any Aro lunatic laughter or “Beller’s” made me very sad. Who needs to follow the book when there’s an opportunity for more SHEEN?!

blackgirltwihard

FN Love Sheen! wonder if he’ll screw up Renessme’s name in BD2 “Hellllooooo, little-girl-whose-name-I-can’t-pronounce” LOVE HIM!!!! (Also sad that he gives Bella one of the crown jewels on a rope and she’s like “Uh…er…Thanks”)

TeamSeth

and she’s like “Uh…er…Thanks”

Not just that, but he compliments her on her immortality AND says that he chose that jewel because it would look good on her. He was being thoughtful being letting his gang slaughter her and all her friends and family! I mean, sheesh Bella, even if you don’t like the gift, in the words of ghostward, Lie better.

SarahG

Gotta agree. Hubs and I were so sure this season was going to be as thrilling as season 2…and the ending was just kinda whomp whomp. 🙁

Anonymous

Yeah, I kind of want Dexter to get caught and go to prison or have to go on the run or something. It just seems implausible that Quinn wouldn’t tell anybody that he’s who Liddy was spying on and that he’d just let it go. Even if he loves Deb. He pretty much knows that Dexter killed a cop for crissakes. Not. Buying. It.

SarahG

Gotta agree. Hubs and I were so sure this season was going to be as thrilling as season 2…and the ending was just kinda whomp whomp. 🙁

SarahG

Gotta agree. Hubs and I were so sure this season was going to be as thrilling as season 2…and the ending was just kinda whomp whomp. 🙁

SarahG

Gotta agree. Hubs and I were so sure this season was going to be as thrilling as season 2…and the ending was just kinda whomp whomp. 🙁

SarahG

Gotta agree. Hubs and I were so sure this season was going to be as thrilling as season 2…and the ending was just kinda whomp whomp. 🙁

RWats

“…the built in Halloween costume possibilities are reason enough to stay.”

I died 😀

TeamSeth

Off topic:

Everyone in the midwest, please be safe!

Anonymous

Snow is in our blood. We laugh at blizzards. 😉

Anonymous

Snow is in our blood. We laugh at blizzards. 😉

Anonymous

Snow is in our blood. We laugh at blizzards. 😉

Anonymous

Snow is in our blood. We laugh at blizzards. 😉

Anonymous

Snow is in our blood. We laugh at blizzards. 😉

Anonymous

Snow is in our blood. We laugh at blizzards. 😉

Anonymous

Snow is in our blood. We laugh at blizzards. 😉

Anonymous

Blizzards near Christmastime…sounds so exotic! Well, maybe for a day or so.

Anonymous

Blizzards near Christmastime…sounds so exotic! Well, maybe for a day or so.

Anonymous

Blizzards near Christmastime…sounds so exotic! Well, maybe for a day or so.

Anonymous

Blizzards near Christmastime…sounds so exotic! Well, maybe for a day or so.

Anonymous

I DO love a white christmas. I hate the years we barely have snow on the ground. It just doesn’t feel like Christmas. Which is why I don’t think I could ever move to a warmer climate. Cacti & palmtrees just wouldn’t do it for me.

Anonymous

Blizzards near Christmastime…sounds so exotic! Well, maybe for a day or so.

Anonymous

Snow is in our blood. We laugh at blizzards. 😉

P.S.

Thanks TeamSeth. Blizzard warning yesterday, windchill warning today, both were way overratted. We were out doing our normal things all day. We’ve seen much worse!

Anonymous

*crossing fingers*

Sounds like (besides sub-zero temps and even colder wind-chills) we’re going to luck out for the one on the way this week…. well, that’s what they’re saying today… tomorrow….??? Who knows. They’ll probably change their forecast and tell us we’ll get “round two” from what we got this weekend.

Anonymous

*crossing fingers*

Sounds like (besides sub-zero temps and even colder wind-chills) we’re going to luck out for the one on the way this week…. well, that’s what they’re saying today… tomorrow….??? Who knows. They’ll probably change their forecast and tell us we’ll get “round two” from what we got this weekend.

Anonymous

*crossing fingers*

Sounds like (besides sub-zero temps and even colder wind-chills) we’re going to luck out for the one on the way this week…. well, that’s what they’re saying today… tomorrow….??? Who knows. They’ll probably change their forecast and tell us we’ll get “round two” from what we got this weekend.

Anonymous

Esme’s backstory kills me. Doesn’t Rosalie say something like, ‘If we had happy endings we’d all be dead and buried now’? So their sad endings are happy for us… without them we have no story!

TeamSeth

“But really no kid should lose their parent especially when they’re going through crazy stuff like turning into a werewolf because of their anger control issues and not to mention a little something called the werewolf gene. We love ya Clearwater family!”

This is why I love Seth! He’s so positive despite what poor cards life has dealt him. He’s really the unsung hero of the book in my opinion! And he puts aside his innate hatred of vampires because he seems them for who they are, not what they are. Truly a mature little fella!

Go Seth! 🙂

TeamSeth

sees them, not seems them! Oops! :/

SarahG

Gotta agree. Hubs and I were so sure this season was going to be as thrilling as season 2…and the ending was just kinda whomp whomp. 🙁

SarahG

Gotta agree. Hubs and I were so sure this season was going to be as thrilling as season 2…and the ending was just kinda whomp whomp. 🙁

SarahG

Gotta agree. Hubs and I were so sure this season was going to be as thrilling as season 2…and the ending was just kinda whomp whomp. 🙁

SarahG

Gotta agree. Hubs and I were so sure this season was going to be as thrilling as season 2…and the ending was just kinda whomp whomp. 🙁

Anonymous

Am I the ONLY one who has never watched Dexter? :O

Anonymous

I haven’t. I’m hopelessly out of touch with all pop culture. With one notable exception. (wink)

Anonymous

No I am with you TJE..I cannot get myself to watch Dexter, he scares me….seriously!

P.S.

Nope, never seen Dexter either!

Anonymous

I watched the first episode because my brother is really into it. Sorry Moon, it didn’t do anything for me. I found him just a little too creepy.

Anonymous

I don’t know about you, but the saddest ending for me was the decimation of those feather pillows…. no, wait, that would be my happiest…. my mistake. Correction, the lack of information about the destruction of those said pillows, now that was sad.

MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT: GET READY FOR IT…(NCN IF YOU WERE HEARING A LOUD SCREECHING NOISE ABOUT 10 MINS AGO, IT WAS NOT WEREWOLVES IN YOUR BACKYARD, IT WAS ME)….DAUGHTER JUST WALKED IN AND SAID “MOM, I CAN’T TAKE IT ANYMORE” HANDS ME A PACKAGE AND ON THE TOP THE TAG SAYS…”I FOUND YOUR CHRISTMAS SPIRIT THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR, LOVE K*****! INSIDE EEEEEEEEEEECCCCCCCCCCCLLLLLLLLLLLIIIIIIIPPPPPSSSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!

I expect a full report back to us! 😀

I hope you love it!!

Anonymous

Tears of joy for you!

Anonymous

I wondered what the heck that sound was!!! j/k

Alright then, I expect to get a phone call soon inviting me over for a viewing. I’m in the phone book, you know my name…

Seriously, though, YYYYAAAAYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TeamSeth

That’s EPIC! I just teared up some in excitement! I <3 K*****!

Anonymous

Well I’m glad we got HER sorted out.

Anonymous

Well I’m glad we got HER sorted out.

Anonymous

Well I’m glad we got HER sorted out.

Anonymous

Well I’m glad we got HER sorted out.

LatersBaby

I feel bad for Xavier…I mean Riley.

Anonymous

testing (UC testing as Cyn)

Anonymous

UC testing as Cyn

Anonymous

UC testing as cyn (yes again!)

Anonymous

TEST COMMENT!

JodieO

I’m test commenting, too!

JodieO

Testing… testies… test.. test…

TeamSeth

Another sad ending: the Romanian curmudgeons! They first get their throne stolen by the Italians — rude! — and then when they may get to have their revenge, or even a taste of it, it’s this entirely anticlimatic nothingness. They’re robbed of any sense of dignity coming out of that conflict of impermeable tension. So unfair.