Need a metal edge waxless skis for use with easy backcountry touring ie pulling my kid and sled on low angle terrain. Have a pair of old awesome Karhu Catamounts 175 so anything similar would be great. I live in Portland so local pickup would be great but Seattle area also possible
Thanks

Steve, there are even crevasses at the base of crater rock as you turn to climb devils kitchen to the hogsback, visible after July, your assumption on the weather is wrong, wind was 55+mph, vis at times down to 5ft. Heavy Rime forming. Does this give you a better picture of conditions?

Some other sites, anyone out there have other fav? I know my flyer friends have a few that shows wind aloft etc that are pretty cool.
http://weather.unisys.com/radar/rcm_rad.php?image=rad&inv=0&t=cur&region=nw
http://weather.unisys.com/satellite/sat_vis.php?image=vis&inv=0&t=cur&region=he

As a professional guide with many summits of Mt Hood and a member of the MRA for 18 years, here is what I believe happened. The slope between devils kitchen and hogsback developes a low angle break close to where the engine block is located on crater rock before steepening again. On a whiteout descent its possible to think that you have reached the top of white river when you see the second steepening so u turn right and find urself in the middle slope of crater rock instead of at the base. A look at ur altitude will tell u that u are too high. This has pulled more than a few climbers but they have either been smart enough to retrace or heard other climbers talking to their left and so again move skiers left to get back on track. So we don't get to hear from them!!!
A compass would not have helped in that it would show u were on the correct heading. A altimeter would show you 200/300ft too high but that could be due to the lower barometric pressure with the new front. The best indication would be GPS, Once above Palmer, set a track up the mountain that you can follow back down. That would show the climber that they are off route. while climbing Mt Hood or any mountain, always look for geo hand rails that will help you recognize where you are. On S Hood, the Palmer lift at 8500ft, Twin Rocks at 9150ft, Upper Triangle at 9600ft, top of white river 10, 100ft. All approx
Water, I appreciate you sending us your version but you may have misrepresented PMR, how PMR members feels should come from PMR not hearsay from subject, sorry. Most of us have never needed to be rescued. Its not to play it forward. I joined Mountain Rescue because I believe we should all give back to our community, either thro service or financial contributions. I have a skill set that allows me to do this thro Mountain Rescue. This is why most people join Mountain Rescue.
Lastly I would ask climbers that are waiting on rescue to minimize phone usage. That phone is your connection to the outside world and may be needed by the rescue folk in the field to contact you. If that battery dies, so might you. Switch off wifi mode, tell the sheriff you will go to airplane mode and contact him at set intervals maybe every 1/2 hour or hour. In the end, you did stay calm and remained in place, both of which is not easy to do so kudos on that.

Hmm I see discussion happening on the diff between considerable and high warning. So, I dig a pit if its high and not if its considerate? NOT!!!
Remember that they are not talking about your particular ski slope, nor are they talking about the conditions that are present at the moment that you are skiing the slope. If NWAC says considerable, I would dig a snow pit and do my own analysis. I always check the NWAC site but you cannot use that and nothing else. Skiing the BC means checking all available info and then owning your ski decision by performing your own tests. What's has happened to personal responsibility as regards determining slope stability?

Snow Pits: I have not seen a report that the group dug and evaluated snow pits. Its would be interesting if they did to see what the slope slid on. I sure hope that all folks out in the BC are digging snow pits

Thanks John for the TR and photos. I have never been up there later than early July so its cool to see the melt out. Also a big kudos for scheduling the climb in Sept, a time when the climbing is less complex and can take larger groups. A large group would certainly have a big impact in June.

Just wanted to post this link. I am not sure how often these guys climbed together. But I have seen a lot of examples of climbers finding partners over the internet and then having epics and injuries and even deaths.
This climber abandoned his partner on the Grand Teton, taking the rope with him!!!
http://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/article_59fb03fa-5d8c-5708-8451-b2fbc6740929.html?mode=story

Hopefully all his friends will already have found out this information before my post
http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20110925/UPDATE/110925007/Climber-killed-after-falling-North-Sister?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CNews

Sorry for my post if it offended, written after a day spent watching some suspect climbing on Hood. Did not mean to target anyone but to warn the inexperienced climbers that may read these threads to take care.