...In fact, most candidates who were in first place the summer before an election year went on to be the nominee. Luckily, Politico is not a website primarily concerned with politics or it might have known this.

Among them: Ronald Reagan in August 1979, Walter Mondale in August 1983, Michael Dukakis (tied for first) in August 1987, Bob Dole in August 1995; George W. Bush in August 1999 and Mitt Romney in August 2011.

...Even Reagan wasn't dominating the polls then the way Trump is now. In the Post's poll, Reagan was at 27 percent, compared to 13 to 15 percent for everybody else, including undecideds. Since announcing his candidacy four months ago by talking about Mexican "rapists," Trump has been polling at around 20 percent to 30 percent, with nearly every other candidate stuck in the single digits.

http://bit.ly/1W3O5Re

the hill

(be careful clicking on the "Ann Coulter" link in Ace's sidebar. It thoroughly crashed my system. Maybe it didn't like Win10, but someone should check it out.)

26
Hmm 7:28 pm is when the Marty McFly watch kicks into high gear. Let the countdown begin.

If only I knew some young, brilliant Islamic scholar with a dismantled clock in a pencil case I could have him keep me updated throughout the day.

Posted by: se pa moron at October 21, 2015 08:28 AM (sI4OA)

27
16>> He mentions that one of the reasons it won't work is that we would need to build 12-15 massive federal prisons to hold illegals.
"
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 21, 2015 08:25 AM

Because rounding them up an deporting them would be far more expensive? Or because the Pederast thinks all illegal aliens should be jailed?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 21, 2015 08:28 AM (i0ykY)

28
If Back to the Future were real, today's headline would be "Liberals Protest Mr Fusion"

48
He mentions that one of the reasons it won't work is that we would need to build 12-15 massive federal prisons to hold illegals.

*****

Wait a second. He's acknowledging that there are enough criminal foreigners in the country to fill 12 to 15 federal prisons? And he's totally okay with that?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 21, 2015 08:34 AM (NeFrd)

49Sen. Marco Rubio, who has the worst attendance record in the US Senate, proposed a bill on Tuesday to authorize the firing of Veterans Administration employees for not coming to work.

"All we're saying in this bill is if you work at the VA and you aren't doing your job, they get to fire you. I think people are shocked that that [doesn't] actually exist in the entire government, since there is really no other job in the country where if you don't do your job, you don't get fired.". said Rubio.

The Post reported earlier this month that Rubio has missed 84 of 275 votes in Congress's upper chamber, or 30.5 percent. For October to date, he has missed seven of eight recorded votes.

Daily Mail

"And isn't it ironic, don't you think?"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 21, 2015 08:34 AM (kdS6q)

50
I sniffed Hillary's hair and it reeked of Huma, Ben Gay, and Vagisil.

Anna, I am assuming you know this, so ignore me if you do (others may not know).

Goodreads is the GOTO place for those who love to read and write. Top spot for published authors.

There are some other sites dedicated to this (booktalk.org, librarything.com, kboards.com, etc) but Goodreads is the best, imho.

You can find all sorts of resources for editing, reviews, and cover art. Even advice on your art.

Best of all, the support from co-authors is fantastic. Very nice people run the site, and it is jam-packed with information. You can set up your own Author profile there, join groups of similar interests, and so forth.

It's a must for authors (and avid readers). All of the Top Authors have profiles there, where you can follow their work, and many communicate with you there.

https://www.goodreads.com/

It's hard to explain what a useful site this is. If you are a member you already know this. And as a new member it takes a bit to figure out all the goodies there, just be patient. It's a huge archive and database.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 21, 2015 08:40 AM (qCMvj)

69
I just noticed the cinemas in the area are showing Back To The Future tonight! The original..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 21, 2015 08:41 AM (UpGcq)

70Sen. Marco Rubio, who has the worst attendance record in the US Senate, proposed a bill on Tuesday to authorize the firing of Veterans Administration employees for not coming to work.

They're always doing that. As if the job of a Senator is measured by which votes he casts.

So he's disqualified to point out that it ought to be possible to fire federal employees?

81
The are calling you a deactivated pervert. To reactivate pervert status, turn java back on..

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 21, 2015 08:44 AM (kLrYQ)

82
Well, the GOPe has finally pissed off Bill O'Reilly over their usual fail theater concerning Kate's law. He all but came out and endorsed a Trump/Carson ticket. Says (rightly) that their popularity was due to common folks who want to crush the Establishment.

Posted by: maddogg at October 21, 2015 08:44 AM (xWW96)

83Politico: The Trump poll numbers lie - History says the GOP will still bank on Bush.by Mark Updegrove

http://tinyurl.com/oacnx4x

Mark K. Updegrove is the Director of the LBJ Presidential Library, the author of four books on the presidency and eats bugs.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 21, 2015 08:44 AM (kdS6q)

84
People who have demanded South Park be censored:
- Islamic Terrorists.
- The Church of Scientology.
- Yelp.

90Well, the GOPe has finally pissed off Bill O'Reilly over their usual fail theater concerning Kate's law. He all but came out and endorsed a Trump/Carson ticket. Says (rightly) that their popularity was due to common folks who want to crush the Establishment.
Posted by: maddogg at October 21, 2015 08:44 AM (xWW96)

yeah, there is a big war going on in the party now

I noticed on a recent "All-Star Panel" with Brett Baier that Krauthammer basically mocked Laura Ingrham right there on air. The other guy on the panel followed suit. Douchebags. It was ugly. So embarrassing to watch. It's okay to disagree, but CK's face and eye-rolling was caught on camera, and then doubled-down on his "subtle" attack.

tired of this

and they wonder why people are navigating to Trump

I will say, Rubio is still staying out of the fray. That is decent of him (unless I missed something). His recent interview showed him ignoring the bait.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 21, 2015 08:48 AM (qCMvj)

91
Yelp is that deer in the commercial who froze. But South Park is about to own Yelp's car, such as it is.

95Well, the GOPe has finally pissed off Bill O'Reilly over their usual fail theater concerning Kate's law. He all but came out and endorsed a Trump/Carson ticket. Says (rightly) that their popularity was due to common folks who want to crush the Establishment.

96
We could reduce global warming if more people ate bugs.
*crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch*

Posted by: Koffi Annan at October 21, 2015 08:50 AM (sI4OA)

97
I am going to turn on the flux capacitor here in just a couple of seconds. I'm sorry if any of the changes that I am going to make to the timeline cause you any grief, but it has to be done. You will know that I have succeeded in making some corrections in the past by virtue of

Posted by: goon at October 21, 2015 08:50 AM (gy5kE)

98Politico: The Trump poll numbers lie - History says the GOP will still bank on Bush.
by Mark Updegrove

Never heard of this guy before. I'm guessing the Bush machine is finding trouble hiring propagandists.

106
Can anyone tell me a piece of legislation that he introduced and is now law that improved the general welfare of this country?

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 21, 2015 08:48 AM (LXJ1e)

Well he did try to do something with a little help from his 'friend' Chuck U Shumer....

Posted by: Doom Rider at October 21, 2015 08:53 AM (ck8TA)

107
Well V the K, you could give Amazon and CreateSpace money to advertise and create copy push to book. Amazon says 'choose your own budget' while CreateSpace says $299 and we will have people create copy for your book.

Could ask OSP for a plug on his BlogTalk Radion program.

That's the kicker, as free-lancers there are so many options and no real instructions. And I guess this is what Artisanal'ette is saying - go research GoodReads for advice.

110
So Geraldo brags to the Canadian PM that he planked his mother. I saw an allusion to that on tweeter yesterday and thought that it was a joke in really poor taste... Then I saw it in the sidebar. The dickness of that asshole is obviously without limits.

I'm sure his present wife and children are thrilled that their husband and father is such a complete piece of shit.

http://tinyurl.com/ndxawha Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 21, 2015 08:51 AM (VPLuQ)I can imagine she's desperately trying to find a way to justify a vote for The Bern! Talk about your perfect Ann Arbor candidate.

114
Saw a link on Drudge about advertisers now have hired a fraud detection agency to investigate the 'middle men' who handle the tedious business of getting advertiser's ads place in media outlets. Seems that the media outlets were rebating back to the middlemen.

Perfectly legal. The middle men go to the company that wants ads placed and doesn't want to go through all the headache, so a rebate from the media should go to the middle man who is doing all the drudge work.

Middleman says to company who wants to advertise : I can get your ads run in all the major markets for X million.

Middleman says to media outlets : I have a client who wants to advertise but only has y million to spend.

It's the classic Steve Jobs maneuver.

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at October 21, 2015 08:57 AM (K5v5b)

115
"It's not quite as boobtastic as what I wanted to show you but you mutts don't even deserve this."

OK, you at least get an "E" for Effort.

But to be honest, anyone but Beyonce, and we would be going "Who's the plain looking chick with the big butt and the thick thighs?".

116So he's disqualified to point out that it ought to be possible to fire federal employees?

It is possible already, it's just hard because the union will probably fight everything. They should make it easier, but I want to see the details on this...

Posted by: Lea at October 21, 2015 08:59 AM (lIU4e)

117
JavaScript is the ultimate virus injection device ever created. Wouldn't surprise me if Achmeds (pbuh) dad was part of the development team.

Posted by: se pa moron at October 21, 2015 08:59 AM (sI4OA)

118
Actually, 7:28 PM is when Marty and Doc depart 2015. The "Last Time Departed" at the bottom is when Old Biff left 1955, so this is at the end of their future trip, after Biff's stolen the DeLorean and put it back, and when they're coming back to (alternate) 1985.

The time that Marty first arrives in 2015 will be at 4:29 PM Pacific.

Posted by: Dan Kojak at October 21, 2015 08:59 AM (zfjOq)

119
>>>>Politico: The Trump poll numbers lie - History says the GOP will still bank on Bush.
by Mark Updegrove
------

How exactly is Bush going to be the nominee when he can't even beat Rubio?

Posted by: Rejected Back To The Future Ideas at October 21, 2015 09:00 AM (yddCj)

122
That Yelp lawsuit is on a parody website ... read down a little to meet Fappy the Anti-Masturbation Dolphin.

Posted by: Kate58 at October 21, 2015 09:00 AM (oLZsm)

123That South Park episode didn't go after Yelp, it went after the fart-snarfers who review everything under the sun and think that makes them somehow important.

And they got it dead right. Screw Yelp.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 21, 2015 08:42 AM (XiVKO)

Yeah, I work at a place that gets regular calls from some "Yelp representative" to "claim our Yelp page" so we can post information or respond to comments. I said to the young lady, "Yes, I am familiar with Yelp and I have no interest in it. I've been on the internet in various capacities since the early 1990s, I hope your company goes the way of Flooz and Alta Vista. Thank you for your time."

Dedicated review sites, even useful ones, always end up becoming ridiculous arm-twisting agents of political correctness. That's how the internet (and more particularly the world wide web) works: the loudest bunch of retards ends up ruining everything. We are continuously developing new technologies, such as facebook and twitter and reddit, to corral and gulag loud-mouthed idiots, but it's still just a holding action, you can't ever win because they're too stupid and too opinionated.

145I'd like to see all laws with an automatic sunset provision after, say, 7 years or so. That'd keep them busy and out of our lives, at least theoretically.

I'd also like to see all legislation have only one focus. Combining bills with more than one issue is one way they keep the public confused.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 21, 2015 09:00 AM (LUgeY)

New constitutional amendment: Any law must be memorized and recited correctly from memory by the persons voting for the law or the vote is not counted. Any coaching by the person scoring the memorization will be counted as two votes against.

Anyone see Peter Johnson Jr.'s rant about the "Progressive Confederacy" this morning? Hat tip to PJj.

Posted by: GBruno at October 21, 2015 09:08 AM (u49WF)

148
Didn't the founders have that thing where the new generation shouldn't be burdened by the previous generation's laws?

They also had that thing where they'd shoot the current generation.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 21, 2015 09:09 AM (Gv8zm)

149
What kind of fur is that Beyonce is wearing? Badger? Is it real fur? Where's PETA?

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski

---

They are investigating the grisly mouse plunger murders from the ONT.

Posted by: Hello Kitty Spice at October 21, 2015 09:09 AM (VJ3W8)

150New constitutional amendment: Any law must be memorized and recited correctly from memory by the persons voting for the law or the vote is not counted. Any coaching by the person scoring the memorization will be counted as two votes against.

The democrats have a war room with 30 staffers, armed with opposition research on all the republican members of the committee, ready to refute and spin anything in real time.

The republicans, on the other hand, probably haven't even talked to each other about who is going to question what.

Here's an idea...

Let's cut the pay of congressmen and senators to find "citizen legislators". No need to waste a lot of money trying to lure competent people to serve, we can find them on the street corner and pay them peanuts.

Yeah, that's the plan.

Posted by: jwest at October 21, 2015 09:10 AM (Zs4uk)

153
Actually, 7:28 PM is when Marty and Doc depart 2015. The "Last Time Departed" at the bottom is when Old Biff left 1955, so this is at the end of their future trip, after Biff's stolen the DeLorean and put it back, and when they're coming back to (alternate) 1985.

*****

Good luck in your search for a real life.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 21, 2015 09:10 AM (NeFrd)

154
Pretty soon contemporary music will suck so bad, people will flock to me.

Posted by: Bach to the future at October 21, 2015 09:11 AM (VJ3W8)

155
I want to turn post offices into banks, prisons into daycare, McDonalds into abortion clinics, parking lots into farms, hospitals into homeless shelters, and Starbucks into S and M dungeons. I'm Bernie Sanders and I approved this message.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 21, 2015 09:11 AM (ee9LE)

156
"I rowed us to a secluded spot . . . Right there, the estranged First Lady of Canada lent new meaning to the term 'head of state.'"

Posted by: Jerry Rivers at October 21, 2015 09:11 AM (sI4OA)

157But to be honest, anyone but Beyonce, and we would be going "Who's the plain looking chick with the big butt and the thick thighs?"

Let's cut the pay of congressmen and senators to find "citizen
legislators". No need to waste a lot of money trying to lure competent
people to serve, we can find them on the street corner and pay them
peanuts.

Yeah, that's the plan....Some States do that already. Here in Kentucky we have part time Legislators and New Hampshire does the same but pays them next to nothing, and everything still seems to work out.

Corruption does play a big part here in Kentucky though.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 21, 2015 09:15 AM (iONHu)

168
Actually, 7:28 PM is when Marty and Doc depart 2015. The "Last Time Departed" at the bottom is when Old Biff left 1955, so this is at the end of their future trip, after Biff's stolen the DeLorean and put it back, and when they're coming back to (alternate) 1985.

*****

Good luck in your search for a real life.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon

Next D & D game starts in 20 minutes!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 21, 2015 09:15 AM (Gv8zm)

169
162 If I see Marty and that car I'm outta here to go back to the early 60's to change the future for the better.Posted by: Gmac - IP banned at home - #twoweeks at October 21, 2015 09:13 AM (4pjhs

Back to the Future with a bucket list of people to off? I think I've seen that movie.

Posted by: se pa moron at October 21, 2015 09:15 AM (sI4OA)

170Pssst. Hey, Mr. Prime Minister, do you have any nude pictures of your mother? No, do you want to buy some?

There is a rather famous picture of her sitting on the floor at Studio 54 sans culottes.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 21, 2015 09:15 AM (JtwS4)

171 Pretty soon contemporary music will suck so bad, people will flock to me.

Posted by: Bach to the future at October 21, 2015 09:11 AM (VJ3W

****

Are you still decomposing?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 21, 2015 09:14 AM (NeFrd)

172I seem to remember a blogger called Althouse .... used to read it until she did the "I'm a staunch conservative who's voting for Obama" thing.

She had one or two decent commenters, but the place was usually a trainwreck. It reached its lowest point during the last election, where some fool named "The Crack Emcee" insisted to the point of insanity that, were Romney to be elected, he'd put the country under Mormon law, just as he had when he was governor of Massachusetts. Combine him with another commenter whose whole shtick was insisting that the John Doe investigations were totes legit and Scott Walker would be indicted any minute now, and there's no reason to ever visit her site again.

Sadly, I'm getting that way with Neo-Neocon, too. She's sensible, but too many of her commenters have drunk the "anybody but Trump" Kool-Aid, even to the point of smugly insisting they'll stay home rather than pollute their vote by giving it to Teh Donald.

173
Trump could do that , re: legislation reform. Refuse to sign obnibus bills of any sort. House/Senate shall present individual items for signing. Also, with mandate that Trump would have by default, push for line-item veto. Also, Budget will be on time. Maybe propose multi-year budget items. Sunsets too and immediately review all regulatory agencies ability to make law on their own. Need to get back to basics... and good morning everyone!

Posted by: Toonces the Cat at October 21, 2015 09:17 AM (e7T6D)

174
New constitutional amendment: Any law must be memorized and recited correctly from memory by the persons voting for the law or the vote is not counted.

===

At which point, all laws would be passed by single votes cast by whoever was designated to remember the law in question.

180
Some States do that already. Here in Kentucky we have part time Legislators and New Hampshire does the same but pays them next to nothing, and everything still seems to work out.

Texas. Meets for 140 calendar days every odd numbered year.

Legislators make $7,200 a year, plus $150 per diem for every day they are in session.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 21, 2015 09:19 AM (Gv8zm)

181
179 When you hit the big time,will you still deign to consort with us?

Posted by: steevy at October 21, 2015 09:20 AM (8HTq1)

182
Well wadaya know NASA now predicting a 5.0 earthquake in L.A. in the next 30 months ...climate change now earthquakes, no wonder they can't send a man into space any longer. They should focus on muslim outreach ....

Posted by: E.T. at October 21, 2015 09:20 AM (yq4gk)

183
I once shot a faux fer in Nebraska
It didn't go quite right
The faux fer took off
like a rocket in flight
And I had to move to Alaska

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at October 21, 2015 09:20 AM (K5v5b)

184162If I see Marty and that car I'm outta here to go back to the early 60's to change the future for the better.Posted by: Gmac - IP banned at home - #twoweeks at October 21, 2015 09:13 AM (4pjhs

Back to the Future with a bucket list of people to off? I think I've seen that movie.

Posted by: se pa moron at October 21, 2015 09:15 AM (sI4OA)

Not sure how I feel about that. I have the same name as someone who is SURE to be on that list.

On the other hand, it makes it somewhat more difficult to websearch my personal info. It's a wash, I guess.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 21, 2015 09:20 AM (u093l)

185
So I saw Paul Ryan's heart rending basically bribery of the House Republicans to vow never to oppose anything that he will do as speaker or he'll take his ball and go home...

One of the first acts he did after he assisted Romney in giving us another four years of Obama was to screw over the veterans in a totally bogus measly $6 billion "budget cut". Of all of the places he could have taken that pissant amount of money without even causing a ripple in the pond of the governments rape of this country and he chose the veterans.

Amnesty and sucking up to that racist fuck Gutierrez... bad enough. Boning the veterans in a time of war. That seals it for me.

He'll be the speaker, no doubt. But in the end, he is as bad as any other asshole in congress.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at October 21, 2015 09:22 AM (BZAd3)

186
steevy, of course. Unlike some writers, I do not want to cheese off my biggest demographic - Morons.

187
They have the NY Times in our office so I glanced at the front page. There's a story about how Baltimore's murder and overall crime rate is soaring and how angry the residents are at the cops - because they believe the cops are ignoring criminals.

188
Faux are native to Peruvia, where they're hunted for their delicious meat.

*****

Tastes just like chiauxen.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 21, 2015 09:22 AM (NeFrd)

189
By Joseph R. Sizoo, former President of New Brunswick Theological Seminary, the oldest seminary in the United States-Quoted in "How to Stop Worrying and Start Living" by Dale Carnegie

Years ago, in a day of uncertainty and disillusionment, when my whole life seemed to be overwhelmed by forces outside of my control, one morning quite casually I opened my New Testament and my eyes fell on this sentence, "He that hath sent me is with me-the father hath not left me alone." (John 8:29). My life has never been the same since that hour. Everything for me has been different after that. I suppose not a day has passed that I have not repeated it to myself. Many have come to me for counseling during those years, and I have always sent them away with this sustaining sentence.. Ever since that hour when my eyes fell upon it, I have lived by this sentence. I have walked with it and found in it my peace and strength. To me it is the very essence of religion. It lies at the rock bottom of everything that makes life worth living. It is the Golden Text of my life.

191
Carol really shouldnt have yelled at that woman for smoking. She wasnt smoking in her house. They didnt live together. And it wasnt like she wd be smoking for long unless she had crates of cigs stashed somewhere. And if there is ever a time to smoke it is in the apocalypse.

Pierre apparently didn't pay enough attention to her, so she made up for it by screwing anybody and everybody who glanced her way. She was big into the NYC party scene and was regularly photographed back then stumbling out of a variety of nightclubs with a variety of sleazy B-list celebs and celeb-wannabes.

Legislators make $7,200 a year, plus $150 per diem for every day they are in session.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 21, 2015 09:19 AM (Gv8zm)

I hear Apple and Microsoft are going to go with part time executives.

No need to hire someone full time to direct hundreds of billions in income and payments every year.

Posted by: jwest at October 21, 2015 09:24 AM (Zs4uk)

197
So...no BTTF hoover boards yet, and b I can tell, Skynet is not (yet?) self-aware.

What's left - SMOD and Yellowstone caldera?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 21, 2015 09:24 AM (NOIQH)

198
Did anyone catch the John Boehner interview with Brett Baier's last night. When asked by Baier if the "Gang Of Eight" had been briefed on any covert operations in Benghazi, Boehner's face turned from orange to white as he paused then mumbled that he could not recall. Conservative Treehouse is the only site so far to discuss this obvious lie.

Posted by: c6dave at October 21, 2015 09:24 AM (3ewID)

199
I wonder if the new PM of Canada really knows who his biological father is. Mommy got around.

205
>>When asked by Baier if the "Gang Of Eight" had been briefed on any covert operations in Benghazi, Boehner's face turned from orange to white ....

Uh...who was the "gang of 8"?
Is it safe to assume that blowhard McCain was involved?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 21, 2015 09:27 AM (NOIQH)

206Sadly, I'm getting that way with Neo-Neocon, too.
She's sensible, but too many of her commenters have drunk the "anybody
but Trump" Kool-Aid, even to the point of smugly insisting they'll stay
home rather than pollute their vote by giving it to Teh Donald.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 21, 2015 09:17 AM (X6fMO)You are completely right! All true conservatives should be flocking to Me, Teh Donald! Because everyone knows what a hardcore conservative I've been over all these years!

Posted by: Teh Donald at October 21, 2015 09:27 AM (lVU49)

207
Now I remember who Trudeau Jr. reminds me of. He's trying to look like those Guy Fawkes masks.

211
All these actresses are starting these businesses. They think that just their association will make them a success when you still have to sell things people want to buy.

That Simpson gal has a thriving business.
So does Jessica Alba.
Blake Lively's went belly up. She hired consultants and then did the opposite of what they told her to do.
Buffy has some company that sells brownie/cookie mixes. That too will go belly up.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 21, 2015 09:29 AM (iQIUe)

212
>>>I wonder if the new PM of Canada really knows who his biological father is. Mommy got around.<<<

So Canada decided that they needed to elect their own version of Barack Obama? As if the original wasn't a bad enough role model?

Posted by: Fritz at October 21, 2015 09:29 AM (UzPAd)

213I hear Apple and Microsoft are going to go with part time executives.

No need to hire someone full time to direct hundreds of billions in income and payments every year.

Posted by: jwest at October 21, 2015 09:24 AM (Zs4uk)That's basically the leftist vision of technocracy. Get rid of all those messy legislators and people who might have different opinions, just put all government programs on autopilot, run by angelic and self-sacrificing technocrats who just make sure the trains run on time.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 09:29 AM (lVU49)

214
"I hear Apple and Microsoft are going to go with part time executives.

No need to hire someone full time to direct hundreds of billions in income and payments every year."

The great thing about this is we all use either Apple or Microsoft, so regardless how bad the decisions are of the part time executives, they can just raise the price we all have to pay to make up for mistakes.

216She's sensible, but too many of her commenters have drunk the "anybody but Trump" Kool-Aid, even to the point of smugly insisting they'll stay home rather than pollute their vote by giving it to Teh Donald.

Tomorrow FenelonSpouse is going for the second time for the school bus driving test. Supposedly the inspectors are mad at having additional work and are talking it out on the people being tested because of everybody who took the test last time nobody passed. FS has been diligently studying the book and going for training but as some of you may know its gets harder to memorize things as one gets older. We can't shoot spouse with a massive dose of Ginko Balboa before Friday so prayers would be appreciated. :^)

Thx.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2015 09:30 AM (MLWQG)

220
"I have been using Trump-bashing as a barometer to judge some of my favorite blogs. Interesting times."

Bashing Trump isn't the problem. It is who is bashing Trump. Those that urged everyone in elections past to vote for the "most electable and most conservative"now want Trump rejected because he is no TruCon.

We are doing exactly what they want but now it's wrong?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 21, 2015 09:30 AM (kLrYQ)

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 21, 2015 09:29 AM (9krrF)Thank you for your support! It's people like you who are helping to Make America Great Again! And to prove it, I will now use the government to seize your land so that I can build another casino! That's what America needs, another casino!

Posted by: Teh Donald at October 21, 2015 09:31 AM (lVU49)

224
Even if Gerado had sex with Trudeau's mother how unbelievably tacky to mention that to the son.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2015 09:32 AM (MLWQG)

225On the next Oprah, the new Prime Minister of Canada learns who his real biological father is.

Back off lady, let a pro handle this.

Posted by: Jerry Springer

Bitch, please.

Posted by: Maury Povich at October 21, 2015 09:32 AM (9krrF)

226Bashing Trump isn't the problem. It is who is bashing Trump. Those
that urged everyone in elections past to vote for the "most electable
and most conservative"now want Trump rejected because he is no TruCon.

It's not that Trump isn't a "TruCon", it's that he isn't even a "Con".

230
I find the info releases on Odom contradictory. They say he is improving and started physiotherapy on the same day he was transferred (tiring) needs six hours of dialysis and possibly a new kidney.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 21, 2015 09:33 AM (iQIUe)

231It's not that Trump isn't a "TruCon", it's that he isn't even a "Con".

Posted by: chemjeff

Unfortunately, neither are the majority of the GOP candidates...if I'm being charitable.

234You are completely right! All true conservatives should be flocking to Me, Teh Donald! Because everyone knows what a hardcore conservative I've been over all these years!Posted by: Teh Donald at October 21, 2015 09:27 AM (lVU49)Your concern is noted, Begonia.

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who would go back and kidnap or kill? Walter Cronkite about.. 1958... would do.. Great thought experiment. Would have scared the networks. Would have made JFK getting killed less ominous to the young Hillary's and other teens that were so affected they created the hippie movement in college. Would have affected the War in Nam, b/c LBJ wouldn't have been watching Walter, .. watergate coverage... etc, etc. Am I wrong?

You're exactly right! In a Trump Administration, you can expect the wall with Mexico will be built in 6 months tops! Of course in the meantime I will have pushed through gun control, single-payer health care, taxing the rich, letting Putin have all of the Middle East, appointing my business buddy to SCOTUS who would make Harriet Miers look like a complete genius, and seizing more land so that I can build more casinos.

Bad part is I like those two, I really do, but I'm not entirely sure Jindal has the temperment (and probably has no chance in primary or general), while Cruz...I dunno. I want to be able to support him, but something I can't put my finger on stops me.

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>>All these actresses are starting these businesses. They think that just their association will make them a success...

They all think they can be the next generation's Martha Stewart. Except...Martha worked her butt off for years as caterer, made numerous shrewd business decisions, and slowly branched out.
One doesn't just walk in, put their name on something and become the queen of all things.
Gah!

the Republocan Party, in its insistance on picking leaders and policies not supported by the base, seems increasingly undemocratic

Posted by: ThunderB at October 21, 2015 09:38 AM (zOTsN)

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@220 Tim.... exactly. Our betters are being laid bare. What happened to a great communicator who would draw from all demographics... independents... conservative southern democrats...etc... haha haa. Well, Trump does but the media and the political class don't want to talk about it because they know... they are doomed. If Trump pulls latinos and blacks like I think he will, game changer.... plus mandate.... plus, defrocking of the GOPe, the media, the inside DC crowd and the Democrat/socialists. Lots of folks have a LOT to lose if Trump prevails.

You're exactly right! In a Trump Administration, you can expect the wall with Mexico will be built in 6 months tops! Of course in the meantime I will have pushed through gun control, single-payer health care, taxing the rich, letting Putin have all of the Middle East, appointing my business buddy to SCOTUS who would make Harriet Miers look like a complete genius, and seizing more land so that I can build more casinos.

But you'll have your wall! That will make America great!

Posted by: Teh Donald at October 21, 2015 09:35 AM (lVU49)

You're making my argument for me.

Everyone of those consequences, except for building a wall-

fits right into Jeb!'s, Rubio's, and assorted GOPe-tards plans and policies, which they have actually stated in the past.

But, still Trump gives me at least one thing.

So, thank you.

In all fairness, I'd rather have Cruz as Prez.

But, if not- Teh Donald is A-Ok.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 21, 2015 09:42 AM (KUa85)

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If you want an actual conservative, support an actual conservative.

Funny thing that. My recollection was that Martha had a sense of self-deprecation (well hidden to be sure) but had a lot of nice suggestions and tips. I never felt she took herself too seriously. The entitled marginally talented actresses are another kettle of fish!

Thx very much. I'm obviously the one who needs Ginko Balboa for memory. His test is Friday, not tomorrow.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2015 09:43 AM (MLWQG)

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Washington Post has an article explaining that the demographic changes taking place mean the eventual demise of the NRA and the Second Amendment. What the Dems haven't been able to achieve with elections or the courts will be taken care of with immigration. I'm sure the WP is delighted with this as are their liberal readers. It probably won't be quite as simple as that but overall they have a valid point. So hang on a few more years lib/progs. Your much desired destruction of our constitutional rights will soon be replaced with govt granted right to health care and sex change operations, just a little bit more patience. Enjoy your Utopian Tyranny!

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at October 21, 2015 09:43 AM (1BQGO)

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>>Slapping your name on something and striking gold? That's just ridiculous!

Posted by: George Foreman

Heh! George slapped his name on a lot of things, including each of his kids (all named George IIRC). Think he's successful because it's a good product/product line and he had no aspirations of being a lifestyle guru. I don't want to be George when I use one of his grills.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 21, 2015 09:44 AM (NOIQH)

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I don't have a link, but it shouldn't be too hard to find if interested...

But Bibi gave a recounting to the world of some of the history behind the holocaust and how it was the mufti of Jerusalem - Arafat's uncle - who was behind the attempt to exterminate the Jews. Hitler had only wanted to expel the Jews from Europe - another mundane, old fashioned pogram. But it was the grandfather of the palestinians as a discrete group that convinced Hitler to attempt genocide.

A brief recap of the history of Israel's peace partners.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at October 21, 2015 09:44 AM (BZAd3)

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For every one republican who claims they would crossover and vote for the democrat I'd bet there are three democrats who would do the opposite.

This national temper tantrum against illegal immigration has crossover appeal. Even my own lefty to the core sister, who had to work with the illegals, used to tell me stories that curled my hair and made my fists clench. They pissed her off royally with their incessant demands and 'entitled' mentality. They would demand free shit then drive away in 45k suv.

Posted by: se pa moron at October 21, 2015 09:44 AM (sI4OA)

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And - only moments away - is the announcement that Canada will join Germany in turning their countries muzzie.

282If you want an actual conservative, support an actual conservative.

But if you want Trump, support Trump.

The two are mutually exclusive.

I want a rock solid conservative.
I'll settle for someone who gives me a legit 50% of what I'm after.
I'll get madness.
So fuck it, hand me the kerosene.

I'm burned out on the game. Get back to me when the smoke clears. If all honest efforts to right the ship are constantly going to be thwarted by unserious "countrymen" and self-serving pols, then hell, I may as well go full Reaver at this stage, if only to properly clear the ground to try again later.

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I occasionally visit Althouse - to read what the commenters have to say. I've never posted there myself. The commenters are (with the exception of a few noxious leftists) generally more conservative than she is and much more interesting and insightful.

That's what sort of amuses me about her site. She likes to lecture her commenters like they're her law students and tell them how they should think about things - but many of them are clearly smarter than she is and she doesn't realize it.

284
Well then stop giving Trump the Sideshow the attention he doesn't deserve and start supporting the actual conservatives in the race.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 09:44 AM (lVU49)

they arent being hurt by Trump

they are being hurt by their own party

"wacko brds" "false prophets" "extremists"

this are the words of the leadership of the Republican Party to describe Cruz and Jindal

Their own party despises them, more than any democrat

Posted by: ThunderB at October 21, 2015 09:47 AM (zOTsN)

285So Ted Cruz and Bobby Jindal aren't "conservatives"?Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 09:36 AM (lVU49)If Cruz or Jindal are the nominee, I'll vote for them, gladly.My like for Trump is not because I believe, he is, in any Hayek sense, a conservative. I believe that whatever "conservative" principles he might have are along the lines of what he'd call "common sense." What I do know is that the GOPe, various members of the punditocrasie and other exemplars of so-called "conservative" thought, are fighting against Trump with far, far more energy and vitriol than they have ever displayed towards Obama. This tells me that a Trump presidency is something they fear. What is that fear?Don't tell me it's fear for the country's future, its security or its fiscal health. After nearly eight years of fellating Obama, the GOP very plainly doesn't give a shit about America. They care only about their place at the trough. And their screaming about Trump tells me that, in some way, he threatens their place at the trough.So, short of the National Razor, Trump is my weapon to hand against the GOP.

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Margaret Trudeau apparently took drugs and was later diagnosed with bipolar disorder. I've never known anyone who had bipolar disorder of the more severe kind and not on meds that didn't have major problems. Some had sex indiscriminately and not in a healthy way, some never slept and had some great plans they rambled on about, some spent money way too unwisely and some were brilliant in one way or another.

Speaking of which, I believe the sci-fi movie Dune, which came out in the late eighties was the first to employ steam punk, what with its neo-Victorian costumes and Jules Verne style machinery and its gothic villains.

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I'm glad the actresses are starting businesses. Will give them some real world lessons in capitalism and the negative effects of government over-regulation. Good for them!

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at October 21, 2015 09:51 AM (22uju)

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Donald Trump's Hair has come out against illegal immigration, for the Second Amendment, against those who'd fight for ISIS, against radical islam, and said he'd repeal NAFTA and get our economy going again.

Not bad for someone who's not a real conservative. Wouldst that the GOPe was comprised of such people.

Jindal in particular has come out in favor of a wall. Right on the HQ podcast.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 09:52 AM (lVU49)

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the GOP did everything they could to prevent Cruz from being elected. They preferred Dewhurst who is GOPe. They said Cruz was a ChiCom plant!

the GOP holds Cruz and Jindal down

Posted by: ThunderB at October 21, 2015 09:52 AM (zOTsN)

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274 Washington Post has an article explaining that the demographic changes taking place mean the eventual demise of the NRA and the Second Amendment.
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at October 21, 2015 09:43 AM (1BQGO)

Eh, they're whistling past the graveyard. Gun control is less popular now than it has ever been among the public and more and more women are buying guns. It seems to be the one bit of proggie propaganda that Americans don't swallow - so they're getting increasingly shrill and desperate about it.

That's not to say gun owners should be complacent, but in a country with more guns than people, predictions of the unpopularity of the 2nd amendment seem pretty ridiculous.

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The demand to stop support of Trump and go for Cruz or Jindal comes off like Gabe's demand that support for Trump should stop and it should go to Cruz right before Drew gets him to admit that he hates Cruz just about as much and doesn't want him as the nominee either.

But at least that gets everything back on the preferred establishment script for the "election" drama they have written.

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>>>>But Bibi gave a recounting to the world of some of the history behind
the holocaust and how it was the mufti of Jerusalem - Arafat's uncle -
who was behind the attempt to exterminate the Jews. Hitler had only
wanted to expel the Jews from Europe - another mundane, old fashioned
pogram. But it was the grandfather of the palestinians as a discrete
group that convinced Hitler to attempt genocide.

A brief recap of the history of Israel's peace partners....I find that hard to believe. Hitler did meet with the Mufti several times but he hated Arabs. He grudgingly let the Army raise a couple of Divisions of Muslim troops but they never did much of anything. Hitler thought all Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent were "racially inferior" to Europeans and half witted apes. He only tolerated them because they gave trouble to the British in Arabia.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 21, 2015 09:53 AM (iONHu)

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Jindal in particular has come out in favor of a wall. Right on the HQ podcast.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 09:52 AM (lVU49

GOPe leadership will never support him and withouth their support he cannot win. He needs their money

Trump doesn't

I would vote for Jindal if he could win. GOP will never allow that

Posted by: ThunderB at October 21, 2015 09:54 AM (zOTsN)

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"Jindal in particular has come out in favor of a wall. Right on the HQ podcast."

He sure did. Now let's get my Bookies odds that he will cave as soon as the gopErs in congress say no!! No way!!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 21, 2015 09:54 AM (kLrYQ)

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298
Trump supports single payer. Opposes entitlement reform. He wants to expand Medicaid. He wants to take more people off the tax rolls.

Yup a real conservative.

Posted by: Dump the Trump at October 21, 2015 09:54 AM (zjumE)

313
It's antidotal, but a neighbor who hates both parties and hasn't voted for over 20 years will crawl over broken glass to vote for Trump. Sure surprised me when he shared his opinion.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at October 21, 2015 09:55 AM (22uju)

314Donald Trump's Hair has come out against illegal immigration, for the Second Amendment, against those who'd fight for ISIS, against radical islam, and said he'd repeal NAFTA and get our economy going again.

Meanwhile, 'Conservative' Paul Ryan has come out for Amnesty, TARP, cutting veteran benefits, and repealing the 'Motion to Vacate the Chair.'

The democrats have a war room with 30 staffers, armed with opposition research on all the republican members of the committee, ready to refute and spin anything in real time.

The republicans, on the other hand, probably haven't even talked to each other about who is going to question what.

Here's an idea...

Let's cut the pay of congressmen and senators to find "citizen legislators". No need to waste a lot of money trying to lure competent people to serve, we can find them on the street corner and pay them peanuts.

Yeah, that's the plan.

Posted by: jwest at October 21, 2015 09:10 AM (Zs4uk)

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Well per your own argument, the Democrats seems to be able to organize and be effective with the same pay as the Republicans. So it appears that remuneration is not the issue.

316If you want an actual conservative, support an actual conservative.

But if you want Trump, support Trump.

The two are mutually exclusive.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 09:42 AM (lVU49)

No. Support a conservative, get Jeb!. Support Trump, don't get Jeb!.

We aren't getting a conservative through the primary, let alone elected president. the only choice is Jeb! or not-Jeb! and the only way to assure that it's not-Jeb! is to make sure he drops out eary because his polling is terrible. Once Jeb! drops out, feel free to support a conservative. But you'll know the real state of things when a couple of candidates polling higher than Jeb! drop out while Jeb! stays in.

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I don't believe jack squat that the WaPo writes about the NRA. Specious and too delicious for them not to write, no? Too good not to be true! Just disregard record gun sales nationwide. It's like reading Politico and somehow thinking your not reading script right from the PR desks in D.C. Total meme mining. They write it, others link it.. then a month from now, a in depth essay in the Atlantic about it.. and presto, a groundswell of support to attack the 2nd amendment with reasonable reforms. Heh. Nice work if you can get it.

Not in his political thinking but along the lines of he motivates people and the GOPe really doesn't like him. I remember the press and GOP pretty much painting Reagan as a clueless dolt. There was some comic video about the candidates and all Reagan would say was "I will be your knight in shining armor."

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323, Buzzion, I was going to mention that guy too. Was that an articulate guy or what? I was so glad Rush kept him over the break... That guys insight and opinion completely made my day. I could not have agreed more, but if asked to put my thoughts into words, I couldn't have come close. It was excellent radio... and clarifying.

Posted by: Toonces the Cat at October 21, 2015 10:03 AM (e7T6D)

343
Still stunned by all the breathless "No Trump" trollers. We all know he isn't the conservative in the room. Wait neither is Jeb ...nor Rubio ...nor Chubby ...nor Kasich ...nor...

My guy? Unlikely, but the pearl clutching gets old.

Posted by: dogfish at October 21, 2015 10:03 AM (0O2Lr)

344Back to the Future with a bucket list of people to off? I think I've seen that movie.

All the attempted assassinations by time-traveling morons is what turn young Barry bitter and commie.

Even if you're right that they oppose Trump for purely venal reasons, why is that a reason to support Trump?

Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 10:05 AM (lVU49)

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Hey, now, Rachel Ray paid her dues, too. SHe started out working at a specialty food place (fancy cheeses and whatnot) and was asked to do in-store demos to gives shoppers ideas on what they could do with their foods. She became the main attraction, was asked to publish her quickie recipes for customers, and was eventually asked to do a cooking demo on the Today show when some other chef backed out. Then the Food network courted - despite her protesting that she wasn't a chef - because of he appeal to novice and/or busy home cooks. I don't watch her show because I find her voice grating, but the gal's got moxie.

Posted by: ThunderB at October 21, 2015 09:57 AM (zOTsN)It's up to US to choose whom WE support.Who cares what they support?If we want an actual conservative, we should support an actual conservative. Not Trump.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 10:08 AM (lVU49)

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I am braced for a Shakespearean level of failure theater on a monumental scale!

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A bribe! A bribe! My country for a bribe!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 21, 2015 10:10 AM (ee9LE)

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2R1
You want big daddy government to protect you job. That's socialism right there and the mentality of a cry baby loser.

Posted by: Rep. Hrothgar at October 21, 2015 10:08 AM (ftVQq)Because it's completely superficial and dumb, IMO.It's like voting for the guy who beats up bullies in the schoolyard, even though the 'hero' turns out to be a total scumbag himself. It's completely fine to oppose both the bullies and the scumbag 'hero'.

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The GOP is so breathtakingly suicidal I've got to wonder if there is some dynamic we're not aware of. You know, pod people, brain implants, LSD in the water pitchers.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 21, 2015 10:14 AM (ee9LE)

382Even if you're right that they oppose Trump for purely venal reasons, why is that a reason to support Trump?Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 10:05 AM (lVU49)*rubs temples, takes deep breath*Because he's taking away the thing they most care about - their own phoney-baloney jobs. By their own actions, the GOPe has shown it doesn't give a damn what Obama does to the country, because they themselves still have money, connections and power. They have shown over and over again that they will not advance conservative legislation unless there is, literally, no other choice. They are utter, proven, failures and need to be broomed out en masse.I will support Jindal or Cruz if they are the nominee. Right now, my embrace of them will not change Trump's standing in the polls one digit.

In my perfect world, I'd be able to vote Cruz with a clear conscience and rest easy knowing that things would get better.

Sadly for me, I am living in a corrupt society where people that are clearly scum are in positions of power that even the monarchs of old could not imagine. I am convinced the game is rigged and I cannot leave the game, but I can make it very hard for the rulers to remain complete masters of my universe.

Posted by: Rep. Hrothgar at October 21, 2015 10:16 AM (ftVQq)

384Hey Hector, now that your Mom can't use pork in her pljeskavica, what with your Syrian stepdad being a Muslim and all, how does it taste? A little dry?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 21, 2015 10:16 AM (kdS6q)

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nother way of looking at it; if the rest of the GOP field can't defeat Trump, how in hell are any of them going to defeat Hillary?

Tomorrow FenelonSpouse is going for the second time for the school
bus driving test. Thx.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2015 09:30 AM

~~~

The written test is difficult because there's so much more than what's on the regular auto test, and so many rules are different too. The absolute worst part is the road test though. Had to back the bus into a "garage" (cinderblock structure with three 8' walls) that had very little clearance on either side, and you had to back the bus in to within 12" of a little cone they had placed in the back. And you only got one correction move during your backing in attempt.

Prayers going up! With second attempt she knows what to expect now, so she'll probably do much better.

Absolutely! ...and see my comment that unlikely he's my guy in the Primary, but that isn't the issue with the No *gasp* Trumpers. In rank order Trump isn't on the bottom of my list, but No Trumpers need their fainting couches when a statement like that is uttered.

Posted by: dogfish at October 21, 2015 10:20 AM (0O2Lr)

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do you remember Steve Schmidt? these are not honorable people driven by conservative ideals in GOP leadership

they are driven to keep and stay in power, conservative ideals be damned

For heaven's sake, Steve Schmidt is just one guy. No he doesn't support the Tea Party. Not everyone does. That's fine. We will just ignore him and go around him and marginalize him by supporting whom we want despite his desires.

You have to kick Steve Schmidt out of your head

And of COURSE they are driven by power, all politicians are driven by power. It's up to us the voters to tell them otherwise.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 10:21 AM (lVU49)

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Steve Scmidt, the Missisippi election ... there are plenty of examples of GOP leadership undermining a conservative who won the primary or the nom

any candidate who needs the GOP leadership will never be conservative

any candidate supported by the GOP leadership will never be conservative

Posted by: ThunderB at October 21, 2015 10:23 AM (zOTsN)

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For heaven's sake, Steve Schmidt is just one guy. No he doesn't support the Tea Party. Not everyone does. That's fine. We will just ignore him and go around him and marginalize him by supporting whom we want despite his desires.

You have to kick Steve Schmidt out of your head

And of COURSE they are driven by power, all politicians are driven by power. It's up to us the voters to tell them otherwise.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 10:21 AM (lVU49)

explain what GOP leadership did in Mississippi then

there are plenty of examples

Posted by: ThunderB at October 21, 2015 10:24 AM (zOTsN)

398You're exactly right! In a Trump Administration,
you can expect the wall with Mexico will be built in 6 months tops! Of
course in the meantime I will have pushed through gun control,
single-payer health care, taxing the rich, letting Putin have all of the
Middle East, appointing my business buddy to SCOTUS who would make
Harriet Miers look like a complete genius, and seizing more land so that
I can build more casinos.

But you'll have your wall! That will make America great!

Posted by: Teh Donald at October 21, 2015 09:35 AM (lVU49)

Alright, stop.

Back up.

I'm weary of this idiocy.

Noah Rothman asked this question recently: "Since when is hiking taxes on the rich a conservative position?"

The question is instructive, as it is the only thing that social cons and fiscal cons agree upon. Higher taxes on the megarich generally have a negative economic impact on the country, so lower taxes as a means of attracting business is the way to go. If this concept existed in a vacuum, it would be a no-brainer, however, there is no vacuum.

The cold, brutal truth is that the GOP donors and establishment wield this policy as a shield against Democrat tax policies that they want protection from, while they, ultimately, agree with and help engineer Democrat social positions.

That's the truth of the matter. The GOP establishment/donor class agree with the Democrats on social policy, while using the Republican voter as a human shield against Democratic taxation.

We are human shields that bear the brunt of confiscatory tax policy while the rich laugh at us, and use us to enact social reforms that they or their trophy wives/husbands find fashionable.

So my answer to "Since when is taxing the rich a conservative position?", troll-poster, and Noah Rothman, is simply this: "Since it was made clear that there is no alliance between donor and voter, and since we realized that we are unwilling foot soldiers for the rich's societal games."

Put bluntly, yes, tax the rich. Tax the hell out of them. Set this country on a path to righteousness first, and prosperity second, and we will have peace, justice, AND prosperity in short order. Trust in God, not in men.

Or don't, and watch the nation burn to the ground as World War III fires up.

Either way, it is the godless money-lovers who will suffer the most. o.o S'way it is.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at October 21, 2015 10:24 AM (6JL3d)

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Hey Hector, now that your Mom can't use pork in her pljeskavica, what with your Syrian stepdad being a Muslim and all, how does it taste? A little dry?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 21, 2015 10:16 AM (kdS6q)

402Absolutely! ...and see my comment that unlikely
he's my guy in the Primary, but that isn't the issue with the No *gasp*
Trumpers. In rank order Trump isn't on the bottom of my list, but No
Trumpers need their fainting couches when a statement like that is
uttered.

Posted by: dogfish at October 21, 2015 10:20 AM (0O2Lr)I am disappointed that Trump, who has barely a passing knowledge of conservatism, is getting so much attention among conservatives.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 10:27 AM (lVU49)

403
35
This is a SFW picture of Beyonce *barely* controlled by her dress.

http://bit.ly/1M6QJe7

Yeah, just what I needed, an anti-ad blocker rant in German.

Posted by: Anachronda at October 21, 2015 10:29 AM (o78gS)

404Anna Puma, artisanal 'ette, I have been thinking of buying some web adverts for my books. Where would be a good pace for conservatarian-tinged scifi?
Posted by: V the K at October 21, 2015 08:49 AM (O7MnT)

V the K, if you are still here. Sorry, I had to dash and run some errands, so missed this.

I do not know specifically for conservative books, but go see where Rush, Levin, O'Reilly, even Charles Krauthammer (yeah, yeah, I know) publish and advertise if you can. (Fox! I know)

Also, this was a handy reference from a ways back:

The Most Super-Duper, Exhaustive, Comprehensive, and Current Listing of Free and Paid Book Advertising Websites and Ideas

http://bit.ly/1kqBbMe

Always helps to read the comments, too. Great advice shared in there as well.

the suppression of conservative ideals and conservative candidates created Trump

if people felt like they were being listened to and dealt with fairly he wouldnt have a chance

if there was ONE just ONE conservative victory

one conservative principle the GOP leadership would fight for

They dont even let a bill go forward that might be vetoed

they are afraid of a veto

they are chickenshit

they made Trump

they should get him, good and hard

Posted by: ThunderB at October 21, 2015 10:31 AM (zOTsN)

410You want big daddy government to protect you job. That's socialism right there

One of the first duties of government is to protect citizens from foreigners, Dunderkind.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 21, 2015 10:31 AM (evdj2)

411
So my answer to "Since when is taxing the rich a conservative position?", troll-poster, and Noah Rothman, is simply this: "Since it was made clear that there is no alliance between donor and voter, and since we realized that we are unwilling foot soldiers for the rich's societal games."

Put bluntly, yes, tax the rich. Tax the hell out of them. Set this country on a path to righteousness first, and prosperity second, and we will have peace, justice, AND prosperity in short order. Trust in God, not in men.

Or don't, and watch the nation burn to the ground as World War III fires up.

Either way, it is the godless money-lovers who will suffer the most. o.o S'way it is.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at October 21, 2015 10:24 AM (6JL3d)

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Nicely put, and exactly what Ace has been saying for months now.

The implicit deal between conservative taxation and social conservatives has been reneged on by the low taxation wing. I'd also point out that the low taxation side has back stabbed the low spending side time and again.

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chemjeff, "conservatism" isn't the draw for Trump. It is the chaos caused within the GOP. And while I believe you think that stupid, immature, and near sighted, others don't. Neither do I. I think it was best expressed above by Posted by: Rep. Hrothgar at October 21, 2015 10:16. The game is rigged.

426Yeah that's what I thought about you. "But the democrats are worse!!!!!!" only goes so far afterall I guess.

Posted by: buzzion at October 21, 2015 10:32 AM (zt+N6)What does that even mean?I have been upfront all along that I am a conservative first and Republican second. Neither Trump nor Jeb are conservatives.

Plus I am inherently skeptical of populism run amok.

It seems that many in the pro-Trump crowd are single-issue immigration voters first, anti-establishment voters second, and conservatism is way down on the list at #8 or something. Am I wrong?

Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 10:35 AM (lVU49)

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418
Learn a new skill and stop bitching. Nothing is owed to you in life. Trump has shown that many Conservatives are really Marxist 81st heart.

You mean urge Democrats to cross over to defeat a conservative candidate in favor of a decrepit, incontinent crony Republican?

Interesting angle I read about that; part of the reason for the GOP's dirty tricks in Mississippi is because Scott Brown refused to run in New Hampshire unless the party made sure he wouldn't be "embarrassed" by a Tea Party senate candidate in another state.

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No. Just like if Jeb! won, I wouldn't support him either.
That doesn't mean I would support Hillary or Bernie of course.
Posted by: chemjeff

Somehow equating Jeb! and Trump as the different sides of the same coin just doens't ring true to many people. There are reasons not to support Trump but he isn't because he is like Jeb! Remember "the loyalty pledge"? Of course you didn't sign it, but the GOPe required it, and I suspect most wouldn't not support Trump either ...proving once again the dishonesty creds of the GOPe are very real.

Posted by: dogfish at October 21, 2015 10:39 AM (0O2Lr)

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The Germans tried it on 1932, how that work for them. I'll give you credit, you admit to being a Nazi loser.

Posted by: Dump the Trump at October 21, 2015 10:39 AM (zjumE)

436Posted by: Dump the Trump at October 21, 2015 10:38 AM (zjumE)Okay just shut up. You aren't helping.I don't think Trump supporters are "losers". I do think that they are placing too low of a value on conservatism. That is a legitimate disagreement that we can have IMO.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 10:39 AM (lVU49)

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If the chaos would produce a worse outcome in terms of advancing conservative principles, then I can't be in favor of it.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 10:37 AM (lVU49)

any GOP preferred candidate is pro amnesty and pro open borders. That is who they will support and apply their resources to.

and when there is amnesty and open borders, every other conservative idea dies. Because these new immigrants are not conservative at all

Posted by: ThunderB at October 21, 2015 10:40 AM (zOTsN)

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demographics is destiny. Change the demographics, change the destiny

Posted by: ThunderB at October 21, 2015 10:40 AM (zOTsN)

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I'd also point out that the low taxation side has back stabbed the low spending side time and again.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 21, 2015 10:32 AM (LXJ1e)

Damn straight it has. If you take in less money and then spend even more wildly, bad things are bound to happen. This is not uncommon knowledge, yet the GOP does not seem to be able to stop itself. Why?

Simple! They don't care. They are enjoying aristocratic lives rubbing shoulders with corporate bigwigs, pop culture stars, and high-dollar whores. Concerns about the future are for those who have to manage their money; not something the Washington faux elites have to do. They'll simply print, tax, and steal whatever they need.

Years ago when I was younger I had a difficult time arguing against a Democrat, much older than I was, about why the Republicans were more fiscally responsible when they were running big deficits in the Bush years. I had no good answer, and at the time, did not know enough to discern the truth. That has changed.

Soak the rich. Let them feel the pain they inflict upon us. When they cry and scream about how it isn't responsible conservative position, laugh and go full confiscatory on them. Only when they understand how powerless the rank and file have felt will they begin to change.

Or they'll threaten to leave the country, which, in actuality, won't be that bad; we have more than enough resources on our own to prosper the country for decades to come, especially in the oil markets. If we went full-bore going after our own energy reserves? House Saud gets kicked to the curb at long last.

The rise of Trump in this presidential race has done more good in American politics than anything I can remember in the course of my 29 years so far. Perhaps the rest of you can remember better things, but this is the closest thing to a realignment of the country that I have yet seen.

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Why would immigrants want to be conservative? All people like you do is trash them. You are not a conservative but a national socialist masquerading as one.
You want a cradle to grave welfare state and just hate foreigners because you want a bigger cut of the gravy train.

Fact is most immigrants are legal and already here. Nothing you can do about that. You will just whine and cry in this place.

Posted by: dogfish at October 21, 2015 10:42 AM (0O2Lr)that's fine. I just believe that it is possible to have our cake and eat it too.I think it is possible to elect someone who actually IS a conservative, and who will shake things up in DC to advance real conservative reforms. I don't think we have to settle for Trump, who will definitely shake things up in DC, but will likely not advance much of anything that would pass as a conservative reform.

Look, W. was able to bully Congress into adopting NCLB and Medicare Part D even though they were decidedly unconservative ideas. Why can't the next president bully Congress into adopting some decidedly *pro*-conservative ideas?

Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 10:45 AM (lVU49)

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altho I admit I dont think Trump is conservative except for immigration, but you lose that issue you lose all the others. Its paramount

Posted by: ThunderB at October 21, 2015 10:45 AM (zOTsN)

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Even if Trump does that it will not magically make America lily white again. What's the next step, death camps?

Posted by: Dump the Trump at October 21, 2015 10:45 AM (zjumE)

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Will somebody please put Average Joe (who sucks cocks by choice) back on the short bus and send him home?

Posted by: Doom Rider at October 21, 2015 10:43 AM (ck8TA)That's not specifically what I was referring to.I was referring mainly to his flip-flopping on pretty much every issue so that he stayed ahead of the popular opinion of whatever demographic he happens to be chasing at the moment.When it looked like Dems were in the ascendancy, he was praising Obama and bribing Hillary to come to his wedding.. When it looks like Dems are now in the outs, he now claims to be a Republican.

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Well per your own argument, the Democrats seems to be able to organize and be effective with the same pay as the Republicans. So it appears that remuneration is not the issue.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 21, 2015 09:55 AM (LXJ1e)

Liberalism is a cult. Their followers will jump off of buildings if they think the cause will be furthered. They don't need any incentives.

However, the republicans do. And, in keeping with the values of democrats, they are greedy. So, if the proper pay structure was established, giving a decent base pay with a matching bonus if goals are met, event the left will bend to find the cuts and meet the deadlines to get paid.

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It seems that many in the pro-Trump crowd are single-issue immigration voters first, anti-establishment voters second, and conservatism is way down on the list at #8 or something. Am I wrong?
Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 10:35 AM (lVU49)

Let's put it this way. Here is my general election voting record:

GHW Bush
Dole
GW Bush
McCain
Romney

I would probably be considered far right in my views. But my voting record is firmly in the moderate GOPe camp. Trump is certainly no worse than those listed above and probably better on several specific issues.

If Cruz is the nominee, I'd vote for him, even though he is a career politician. At one time Jindal was at the top of my list, but him wanting MORE immigration is national suicide, I don't see how I can vote for him.

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I know that populist is a dirty word ususally applied to charismatic liberal leaders like Huey Long

but you could argue that Reagan in someways was a populist, also despised by the GOP, also going over the press's head directly to the people

not saying Trump is Reagan BTW

Posted by: ThunderB at October 21, 2015 10:50 AM (zOTsN)

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Trump will be killed in a general election. Many same Republicans will vote for Webb as an Indy or even Dem if they,must. The Trump Nazis will discover they are not the majority they think they are. Then Talk Radio, Fox News, and blogs like this one will lose all credibility. They will be shunned and the GOP can modernize,and be a 2141st century party.

Trump is the last hurt at for a dying breed of losers.

Posted by: Dump the Trump at October 21, 2015 10:51 AM (zjumE)

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Honestly, at this point, I'm not even planning on voting next year because I simply have no hope. But I don't see how Trump would necessarily be worse than Romney, McCain, or anyone else the GOP Echo has put up.

Even if you're right that they oppose Trump for purely venal reasons, why is that a reason to support Trump?

Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 10:05 AM (lVU49)

Why should they be monetarily rewarded for destroying the country?

They should not.

I'd be happy to support Cruz in the race, but this is why-

we have a super-mega field with 0-3% guys still in the race.

The GOPe learned with McCain and Romney that it's an easy way to get the opposition vote split 10 different ways and get their guy elected.

That's why they pushed Jeb! so hard before the debates,

his poll numbers were supposed to remain above "the crowd" and by this time he would be coronated for the nom.

Trump needs to stay in until Jeb! and the other 0-3% GOPe-tards drop out.

That won't happen because the GOPe and their handlers are too stupid to adapt.

So...Trump it will be and it's all their fault.

I just hope Trump is smart enough to pick Cruz as his running mate.

If that's the most conservative ticket I can, get that's fine.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 21, 2015 10:53 AM (0cMkb)

467At one time Jindal was at the top of my list, but him wanting MORE
immigration is national suicide, I don't see how I can vote for him.

More *legal* immigration is fine, as long as WE get to choose who the immigrants are. That is how Europe does it. (Well except for their current refugee nonsense.) They only let in the people that they want.

The problem is when we don't control our borders and we don't choose who gets in. That is the national suicide part.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 10:53 AM (lVU49)

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As a committed Cruz fan, I do not see anything wrong with Trump upsetting the table and getting us out of the same old-same old left/right idiocy that has paralyzed us and empowered more Washingtonians to tax farm the majority of the country.

A Cruz/Trump ticket would be a blast. My imagination goes wild with Trump presiding over the Senate -- especially with his being popular enough to overturn the tired rhetoric (see Reid's yesterday speech).

Cruz leading and Trump enforcing. Let's make politics enjoyable again.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 21, 2015 10:55 AM (MIKMs)

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More *legal* immigration is fine, as long as WE get to choose who the immigrants are. That is how Europe does it. (Well except for their current refugee nonsense.) They only let in the people that they want.

The problem is when we don't control our borders and we don't choose who gets in. That is the national suicide part.

Liberalism is a cult. Their followers will jump off of buildings if they think the cause will be furthered. They don't need any incentives.

However, the republicans do. And, in keeping with the values of democrats, they are greedy. So, if the proper pay structure was established, giving a decent base pay with a matching bonus if goals are met, event the left will bend to find the cuts and meet the deadlines to get paid.
Posted by: jwest at October 21, 2015 10:47 AM (Zs4uk)

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Yes, better pay will bring in the right people to defeat a crazy-ass cult. /snark

Cult end when they commit suicide or somebody comes in with guns blazing and putting bullets in their heads, literally.

There will never be a pay structure good enough to defeat a cult that has overtaken 1) the government, 2) the media, 3) academia, and 4) most of the "elite".

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More *legal* immigration is fine, as long as WE get to choose who the immigrants are. That is how Europe does it. (Well except for their current refugee nonsense.) They only let in the people that they want.

The problem is when we don't control our borders and we don't choose who gets in. That is the national suicide part.
Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 10:53 AM (lVU49)

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No, more legal immigration is not fine. Your saying the current situation with 14 million illegals would be fine if we just had a bigger door to let them in legally originally, or were somehow able to weed them out effectively from the good immigrants. Our Federal government is not competent enough to do that.

472No, more legal immigration is not fine. Your saying
the current situation with 14 million illegals would be fine if we just
had a bigger door to let them in legally originally, or were somehow
able to weed them out effectively from the good immigrants. Our Federal
government is not competent enough to do that.

How many people do you think we need coming into this country?

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 21, 2015 11:03 AM (LXJ1e)IF we had secure borders - yes, with a wall - then illegal immigration would not be a viable option.Then, we would be able to select whom we want via our own policies. Right now the policy is to reward family reunification above all other considerations. That is wrong. sure family reunification is fine, but shouldn't be the pre-eminent dominant strategy.I don't know how much we "need" in terms of legal immigration. Probably not all that many.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 21, 2015 11:06 AM (lVU49)

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There will never be a pay structure good enough to defeat a cult that has overtaken 1) the government, 2) the media, 3) academia, and 4) most of the "elite".

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 21, 2015 10:58 AM (LXJ1e)

My pay proposal would attract competent candidates who would be able to compete with the cultists. No more bargain basement Kevin McCarthy's.