I just spoke to Samsung and instead of giving me a 2012 set, they are refunding my money. I had a unrepairable 64D8000. I think I'd rather they had swaped (1 or 2 ps?) but now I'm a free agent looking at other teams.

Cheers for that. It looks like in the UK we will only get the 51" and 64" E8000, 51" and 60" E6500 but no 7 series at all, this is still to be confirmed i think though.
I am limited to a 60" panel for my position/Room/Cost. I have the 2011 3700 Glasses along with the 3100 and also tested the 3050's. What are the new 2012 Glasses for the Sammys ?.

Thanks

Just incase you don't realize, the sammy 64 inch panel (the outside perimeter) is only slightly larger than an actual 60 inch tv. This is because the samsung panels use that thinner bezel , actual measurements for the 64 inch are:

The new glasses are the 4100' s , not out for sale yet but you get 2 in the box with the tv. The new glasses should be at retailers soon - 1 -2 weeks. I will check on them, they say that the 3050 and the 3100 will work with 2012 sammys also.

Suppose to get my replacement 64 E 7000 sometime early next week. if there is no pics by then i will put some up.

Are you getting your replacement directly through Samsung or a vendor?Im waiting to get mine replaced with the 64E8000 but they told me they dont have any available in their warehouses yet for exhange,that the vendors need to be supplied with them first,does that make sense?
BTW,looks like they already have an firmware update for the 2012 voice control tvs

Samsung is releasing new firmware update for 2012 TVs that have the Voice Control feature. This update is designed to improve the overall performance of the Voice Control feature and make the commands easier to deliver and for the TV to understand. The firmware update will change the power-on command from the existing "Hi TV" to "Hi TV, Power On". (The same change would apply if you have the command set to "Smart TV" in the menu as well). This will avoid any confusion both with the commands themselves as well as the way the TV is interpreting the commands. If you are experiencing any kind of trouble using the Voice Control to power on your TV, please update the firmware via the Support menu of your TV, or by downloading it from Samsung.com. When the firmware becomes available, it will be posted in the Download Center of your particular model TV. Please feel free to contact us via phone, email, chat, or your favorite social networking channel if you need additional information or support.

If would like to reference a How to Guide for instructions on updating your firmware, please click here. Thank you.

Note: Once the firmware upgrade is 100% complete, it will be necessary to manually power off the TV and power it back on again. This will finalize the update of the firmware.

This fascination with taking pics or videos of tv's I still find weird. Like you can check pq this way?

"I realize that somebody playing free music isn't as commercial as a hamburger stand. But is it because you can eat a hamburger and hold it in your hand and you can't do that with music? Is it too free to control?" - Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart) discussing commercial success in the music biz

This fascination with taking pics or videos of tv's I still find weird. Like you can check pq this way?

A stock pic lol, well of course i seen that however have you not ever seen something that is released that looked totally different than some generic year old stock pic ???

Plus that is more like and animated pic that does not represent a real life pic

Also the bezel this year was supposed to be more of a black this year as opposed to the grey of last year and the stock pic, and that damm Chrome spider stand or whatever samsung are calling it that they refuse too put in the garbage was supposed to be painted black as well and the stock photos not showing that either my friend, so i am curious for high quality owners pics

A stock pic lol, well of course i seen that however have you not ever seen something that is released that looked totally different than some generic year old stock pic ???

Plus that is more like and animated pic that does not represent a real life pic

Also the bezel this year was supposed to be more of a black this year as opposed to the grey of last year and the stock pic, and that damm spider stand or whatever they are calling it they refuse too put in the garbage was supposed to be painted black as well and the stock photos not showing that either my friend, so i am curious for high quality owners pics

You seen that, eh? No, I have not ever "seen something that is released that looked totally different than some generic year old stock pic" but maybe this is my opportunity....Tony? WTF is an animated pic in terms of the photo in that link? A still from a video?

"I realize that somebody playing free music isn't as commercial as a hamburger stand. But is it because you can eat a hamburger and hold it in your hand and you can't do that with music? Is it too free to control?" - Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart) discussing commercial success in the music biz

Not to derail the conversation, but there's a very slim chance than any photo taken of a TV (in any lighting conditions) will allow you to properly gauge the quality of the display. Why do you think the stock photos released by the manufacturers have a random image photoshopped onto the screen? If they didn't, they'd never sell a single TV. The majority of cameras on the market (unless you're shooting in a RAW format) are manipulating the white balance and exposure of the image before it's even downloaded onto the computer.

Not to derail the conversation, but there's a very slim chance than any photo taken of a TV (in any lighting conditions) will allow you to properly gauge the quality of the display. Why do you think the stock photos released by the manufacturers have a random image photoshopped onto the screen? If they didn't, they'd never sell a single TV. The majority of cameras on the market (unless you're shooting in a RAW format) are manipulating the white balance and exposure of the image before it's even downloaded onto the computer.

This fascination with taking pics or videos of tv's I still find weird. Like you can check pq this way?

Perhaps i need to explain my reasons for wanting too see a pic, Of course i know you can not tell picture quality from a pic on a forum, What i am wanting too see is if the production television bezel is jet black like shown from ces as opposed to the grey from last year and also if they changed that chrome X stand to black as well... The pics i am asking for can be submitted with the television Off for all i care

Perhaps i need to explain my reasons for wanting too see a pic, Of course i know you can not tell picture quality from a pic on a forum, What i am wanting too see is if the production television bezel is jet black like shown from ces as opposed to the grey from last year and also if they changed that chrome X stand to black as well... The pics i am asking for can be submitted with the television Off for all i care

2011 bezels on the D8000 were light titanium, the D7000 dark titanium. I don't know about what was shown at CES. It's "to", not "too" (sorry, painful). It appears the stupid x stand won out (sad).

"I realize that somebody playing free music isn't as commercial as a hamburger stand. But is it because you can eat a hamburger and hold it in your hand and you can't do that with music? Is it too free to control?" - Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart) discussing commercial success in the music biz

Going to get my pn64e8000 tomorrow from bb..saw it in the the magnolia back room with all the receivers and speakers and it looked STUNNING! Colors were well saturated and the picture just popped! I have been looking to replace a pn63c8000 from two years ago, right now I have a Sony 65XBR929 and I hate the picture on it..everything looks washed out and dull. Motion resolution is horrible with no happy medium between full on soap opera effect and 24/P. Needless to say it is going back to Amazon tomorrow! I will try to comment on the PQ as well as buzzing as my c8000 buzzed.

Any owners want to share what they are using for picture settings right now? I would really like a starting point..thanks!

I was wondering if the smart remote can be set to control volume on your receiver and channel changing (and hopefully other functions) on your STB (Fios in this case). I got a "will be able to" answer from the BB magnolia person I chatted with, but was wondering if this is possible now?

Are you saying you don't believe Samsung can use dual core to benefit picture quality? I have no dout that I read that in Samsung's literature. It was not explained but there it was. I'd like to know more about it myself. I'm looking for a link to that statement which I read on more than one ocassion.

Are you saying you don't believe Samsung can use dual core to benefit picture quality? I have no dout that I read that in Samsung's literature. It was not explained but there it was. I'd like to know more about it myself. I'm looking for a link to that statement which I read on more than one ocassion.

Sorry I was ill the last 2 days didn't get much done. As for the pics , we ( my wife and I ) are going to get a new camcorder cause for some reason the pics and video's will not transfer to the laptop. I can find a ton of pics - on the web - if you just want to see the color of the bezel or the claw stand. I got my replacement rfom samsung, and they did say ( at that time ) they were very busy getting stock out to distrbuters and the such so, I got lucky mine was sent so quick.

tonyjd40you can dream of where you will be ten years from now,oryou can work hard today to actually get there