Wow! Just noticed yesterday I consumed about approx 180 grams of protein and lots of calories through fruits and fats~-> Before I went to bed I felt like I couldnt go to sleep, I need to drink lots of water before being able to, throughout the day I consumed tons of water and I didnt really feel that bad

-> Would anyone say this is too much protein when considering I did a great workout?Plus I am about 6 feet tall, 152 lbs and 7% bodyfat -> I am as strong as I was when I weighed 165 lbs, im even a little stronger now (Is that good? )

I thought I weighed like 160 165 but I showed myself wrong. Ever since quitting dairy I lost alot of weight but didnt lose any strength. (Dairy is bad)

Chow my homies!

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Wow! Just noticed yesterday I consumed about approx 180 grams of protein and lots of calories through fruits and fats~-> Before I went to bed I felt like I couldnt go to sleep, I need to drink lots of water before being able to, throughout the day I consumed tons of water and I didnt really feel that bad

-> Would anyone say this is too much protein when considering I did a great workout?Plus I am about 6 feet tall, 152 lbs and 7% bodyfat -> I am as strong as I was when I weighed 165 lbs, im even a little stronger now (Is that good? )

I'd say 180g protein is good, but how about getting some from food?? Here is the food you ate:

I used to eat alot of cooked legumes for protein, but I did some research and some articles said when you cook something it makes it very hard to digest. I have some dry chickpeas and kidney beans i dunno i might soak them for a really long time and cook them on really low heat.

I also eat different nuts and seeds throughout the day i just forgot to mention them. Im trying to eat as raw as possible so getting alot of calories and protein through real food can be sort of difficult. But I want to try legumes than can be sprouted so I dont have to cook them which then taxes the digestion.

I just had tons of calories.2 Scoops chocolate wheat protein, 1 cup of oats, 1 banana, 1 tbsp peanut butter, all blended updamn was it satisfying

I was still hungry so i slightly toasted a whole grain bagel and add cinnamin spread on it. that hit the spot..

_________________Following the 811 diet.. and I feel so much better!Fresh, raw, ripe, organic fruits and vegetables are the only foods necessary for optimal health and performance.

Cool to see a log starting.180 grams sounds good in my ears but I wouldn't personally eat so much wheat protein since it doesn't seem to be very good for overall health. Pea, soy, rice and hemp are better options.

I agree that you should cook more and the stuff you read about legumes isn't true.Do like this. Soak the beans/peas in a lot of water and sodium bicarbonate for 12-24 hours and then boil them for about 1 hour in new water (not the soaking water, make sure you rinse them from the bicarbonate too). With the kidney beans it's a good idea to change the boiling water after about 20 minutes to reduce the amount of antinutrients but chickpeas is just fine to cook for 1 hour straight.

If you do not cook kidney beans at high temperature (100 degrees celcius) it's dangerous, not the other way around.

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cubby2112 wrote:

When someone says you don't train "functionally," you should just punch them in the face. Ask them how "functional" of a movement that was.

Yes I was thinking of sending the Wheat Protein back, but I really like it's taste and it goes great with a banana and raw oats in my 'magic bullet' blender. It doesn't really give me any digestion problems if I have a Wheat shake after my workout because my body uses all of the protein, even gluten, quickly (this is my assumption).

Yeahh I really miss eating legumes, I think I will make some chickpeas soon and make a stiry-fry out of them. Lots of calories for mass and muscle gain.. I don't know if I want to re-introduce tofu or anything though, no idea on how processed those commercial brands of soy products are. Only way I will put soy back into my diet if I cooked the soy beans myself.

I'd really wish to get some organic legumes so I can sprout them without worrying of it growing bacteria.

_________________Following the 811 diet.. and I feel so much better!Fresh, raw, ripe, organic fruits and vegetables are the only foods necessary for optimal health and performance.

Glucosamine is for joints right? I think it's worthless unless you actually have pains but I'm not sure.Glutamine, don't waste your money. Creatine rules though, if it's monohydrate take 5-10 grams per day all days of the week.

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cubby2112 wrote:

When someone says you don't train "functionally," you should just punch them in the face. Ask them how "functional" of a movement that was.

I second Johan's sentiment on the glucosamine. I don't think it's a bad supplement, lots of people swear by it, but if you're not already suffering from any joint issues, then it's pretty much unnecessary. The other stuff is solid, though, and the basics of decent supplements without tons of unnecessary junk!

_________________"A 'hardgainer' is merely someone who hasn't bothered to try enough different training methods to learn what is actually right for their own damned body." - anonymous

Glucosamine is for joints right? I think it's worthless unless you actually have pains but I'm not sure.Glutamine, don't waste your money. Creatine rules though, if it's monohydrate take 5-10 grams per day all days of the week.

1.)Yes it is for joints and works as long as you take it daily for joint pain. Takes about two weeks for it to actually kick in but after that it seems one forgets about their pain.

2.) Ive seen mixed results. I get tired of taking supps so I rarely take glutamine. I have seen some people take it daily and have rockin workouts and hardly ever be sore.

I just quit taking supplements and Im starting to feel alot better. I dont believe the fact that you need to consume 100s of grams of protein to gain muscle.

When you compare a gram of protein from say cooked beans to a gram of raw organic baby spinach I think you'd be amazed. Like when I eat a nice salad with mostly organic vegetables I feel and know know I got enough nutrients, it's intuition. Same as for organic fruits, sometimes for breakfast I only need to eat 1 organic gala apple and a few pieces of fresh pineapple to feel satisfied. I'd rather have that than say cooked instant oatmeal which takes alot more energy to digest. Also, I am pretty sure a gram of protein from an organic fruit has a way higher quality than cooked instant oats. Due to the fact that most oats are old, processed, cooked, and cooked again with boiling water - which causes all of the amino acids to be messed up and un-usable. So that is why it only takes about 2 fruits to feel ful versus a big bowl of cooked instant oatmeal.

On the other hand: if it was sprouted raw organic oats it would take alot less to feel satisfied and in the knowing that I got my necessary nutrients.

In conclusion: I quit the supplements, the cooked food, and now I mostly eat raw organic foods. By quitting glutamine, creatine, pre-workout supplements, and the like, I am starting to feel alot better and the way I am supposed to feel. Supplements and cooked foods are unnatural and not the way nature intended them to be. A raw, organic, and natural diet without supplements is the healthiest way to go, and yes, you can gain muscle and fitness on this type of diet.

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I would like to dicuss whether or not raw organic protein supplements such as vega and sun warrior have the same quality protein and amino acids as fresh organic sprouts (such as seed sprouts, grain sprouts, legume sprouts, and nut sprouts), fresh organic vegetables and fruits. I know that these raw organic protein supplements are processed very carefully but are they matchable to natural foods in terms of nutrient quality? Are they as easy to digest as fresh foods? I am not trying to downgrade these raw organic protein supplements but just trying to get some information from knowledgeable people who actually own these product comapanies.

I would like to try out these raw organic protein powders eventually and see how they make me feel. I am sure they are ALOT better than other plant based protein powders.

I will be returning about 180$ worth of supplements to bodybuilding.com in a short while, and as in-store credit will be returned I am going to order products that are as raw and organic as possible. I want to try out Sun Warrior's protein and possibly Vega. But I definately want to order some raw organic hemp seeds, raw organic maca powder, raw organic sea vegetables, raw organic golden flax seeds, and other highly raw organic products. Please give more some advice if you know any other raw organic products on bodybuilding.com that you feel I could benefit from.

Currently I am affiliating Sun Warrior in my site and Sun Food products. My site is not the best but I just felt like improving my web designing skills.

Chow!

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