Do Developers Already Hate The Wii U?

One of the things that makes the Wii U different from its predecessor is Nintendo's newfound love of third-party publishers. Sure, third parties haven’t exactly been absent from Nintendo's systems, but the success of the console has never relied on outside development. They've always focused their efforts most heavily on in-house titles like Mario, Metroid, and Zelda. However, with the Wii U specs slightly outpacing the current generation of consoles, Nintendo is obviously trying to woo outside developers. And it's working.
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Maybe if Nintendo had invested in going truly next-gen...... but at this point, I'm not going to invest in a gimmick-based console that will be outdated specs-wise a year from now.

The 3rd party 'core' stuff is mostly just ports from current-gen consoles (and not even great ports when I read the reviews), and we'll have to wait and see about the quality of the 1st party stuff, but which is usually good.

There are a few games that look interesting, like the new Rayman, but I haven't really seen anything 'must-have'.

" The 3rd party 'core' stuff is mostly just ports from current-gen consoles (and not even great ports when I read the reviews), and we'll have to wait and see about the quality of the 1st party stuff, but which is usually good. "

What console launch came with entirely new exclusives?

What gives you the idea if they " truly went next gen" we wouldn't see ports?

The problem is that production pipelines are for the most part stuck with the Ps3/360 standard(6 years of opitmizations ). Wii U isn't even utilized like the Ps3 is over the years.

I really don't see the relation between a " truly next gen" system and third party ports.

Consoles like Ps3/360 were outdated 6 months after their release. Not sure why you are worried about that. There are plenty of good games on them to this day.

I'm all up for advancements. But I think people are looking for excuses that do not affect their gaming experience. You said it yourself. If 1st party stuff are usually good...why would third party content fail to do the same? How are " outdated specs " going to affect this? How is it only affecting third party developers and not Nintendo?

@Sidar"I really don't see the relation between a " truly next gen" system and third party ports."

You see 3rd party right now doing lazy ports of their PS3/360 games for the WiiU.

They can't be bothered it seems.

About a year from now we expect the new Xbox and Playstation to come out, and they will be much more powerful, is the general assumption.

What happens then is that the major 3rd party developers will focus on those new systems with their 'core' games, and once again the WiiU will be left out, cause by that time the WiiU will be far less powerful, thus again not really worth the bother of doing a proper port.

@Sidar "Consoles like Ps3/360 were outdated 6 months after their release. Not sure why you are worried about that. There are plenty of good games on them to this day."

But that makes the Wii U 6 years outdated. I guess we'll how far optimizations will go over the years, but I'm not extraordinarily optimistic that it'll get much better than what we're seeing now...perhaps with some of the first party games. I don't think 3rd parties will latch onto it though.

" You see 3rd party right now doing lazy ports of their PS3/360 games for the WiiU.

They can't be bothered it seems. "

New games need new resources ( teams/management/etc). Money doesn't grow on trees. Making games, especially establishing new franchises costs a lot of money.

How is this Nintendos fault?

"What happens then is that the major 3rd party developers will focus on those new systems with their 'core' games"

How do you know? In fact developers have no reason to invest in even bigger projects. No doubt they wan't to go forward. But game development these days are already costly. And this is what Sony and MS are most likely taking into consideration.

" thus again not really worth the bother of doing a proper port."

I really don't see how you think it's the Wii situation all over again. It easily runs current games at higher settings. And these are just launch title ports. It is only logical to assume that any dedicated game( or optimized dev-pipeline ) will outbest them by far. You are assuming that the PS4/Nbox will do some space magic. We don't even know how strong they will be. In what way will the gameplay be so drastically demanding that they can't port it to the Wii U?

I'm not even betting on bigger companies opening the creative gate. Indie developers is where it is at.

@vuzer " But that makes the Wii U 6 years outdated" I don't think you even understand yourself. This is not how logic works.

Wii U is actually build from recent components. But technology cycles are short/fast. We keep growing faster into new technology.

That is why I said consoles are outdated after 6 months. How did you conclude it's 6 year old hardware? From what did you deduce any of that?

Well by what you said the 360/ps3 were outdated in 6 months (~5 1/2 years outdated), the Wii U is less powerful than current consoles, so just by basic comparison the Wii U is over 5 1/2 years outdated (by your account. I still haven't played it so I can't give a personal judgment). Doesn't matter if it's built from recent components (which it's not...seems parts were recycled from the Wii) if it's not a step forward technologically

no just EA because there cry babies and fell out with Nintendo over there rubish origing intergration. I don't play ea games anyway since all need for speeds are the same, hate all sports games in general, if I want to play football (which I don't) ill go outside and play and never got into mass effect oh and maybe Bethesda as I hadn't heard anything from them but they probably waiy and see. plus there's nothing they can add to Wii u at the moments, too late for skyrim which I'm still waiting for dlc on ps3 maybe fallout 4 could come but have to wait and see.

"However, with the Wii U specs slightly outpacing the current generation of consoles"

It's not really more poweful, if it is, it needs special attention from developers which it isn't going to get. Developers don't want to learn to code for a new consoles, especially since that new console is so weak for it being next-gen.

It can already do what the most powerful last gen console cant from day 1. Play BLops ay720p while updating 2 screens.

I know you know nothing of tech and so you cant even begin to comprehend what that means but it proves to anyone that isnt a complete moron that its more powerful

I know kid you read somewhere that it was weak and we all know all you do is troll because your POS3 doesnt offer anything worth playing that Nintendo hasnt already done. SSB clone? Mario Kart clone anyone?

Any way kid you keep going around proclaiming things you cant prove and have already been proven wrong.

You,LOL_Wut,Mika, and the rest being in a frenzy lately just shows how threatened you all are and its honestly funny to see you kids trying so hard to convince everyone not to buy a Wii U.

Don't worry kid, just kiss your poster of Ken, Lube up your DS3 and put it back in your fav spot and get a good nights sleep. Your POS3 will still be here tomorrow, Still be unable to play even basic games like Skyrim, Still cant get DLC for games, Stil playing in outdated640p, still holding back gaming.

I'll probably get a xbox3 or ps4 because it will probably come with a "pro controller" without having to pay extra.

The face that a pro controller for the wii u is an accessory is telling. I'm not buying Nintendo marketing that this is for core gamers and that this is how I'll play next.

Will developers code for it on mind but a large portion of users don't have it. Like a kinect, or move?

Nintendo should have include the pro controller with its 80hr batt life instead of the 3 hr game pad. Keep the system price the same and put extra cost into future proofing it to compete with the next systems.

And if the pad is as great and fun to play with people would by it extra