Post by stratsg90 on Jan 25, 2013 4:14:56 GMT -5

Sometimes I think people just see things differently than I do. I remember everything thinking 2009 was the best Bonnaroo lineup ever, and I thought it was weak as hell, because it was extremely top-heavy with a weak undercard. I think that might happen this year - a great 1-15, lots of filler. I could be wrong, who knows.

And I really feel like Bonnaroo does play it safe. I love that Coachella is saying "f*ck it, Blur and the Stone Roses are great and have huge international followings, we're letting them headline." Rather than trying to appease every idiot who can't comprehend something they don't hear on their favorite Modern Rock Faux-Indie Spotify stations as being popular, they're just putting good music up. If you personally don't know why Blur and the Stone Roses should be top line, that's on you, not them.

Really, the only bad/questionable headliner here is RHCP.

RHCP isn't questionable, it's fcking awful. Has anyone else every headlined the big 3 in the same 12 months?

Do you think RHCP was a fill in for the Stones, or did Phoenix get the bump up to fill the Stones spot? My guess is the latter.

When Phoenix get their fellow Frenchmen to help them out at Coachella, we'll see who's laughing...

EDIT: I can already see the outrage on the horizon so let me clarify...THIS IS A FUCKING JOKE

Post by Flanz on Jan 25, 2013 4:19:20 GMT -5

Jess, can we not argue about Widespread for the 34897395785th time? They're never headlining any of the other major festivals again. They are a Roo headliner, otherwise they headline small-scale festivals (no shame in that). Let's move on.

Post by glennron on Jan 25, 2013 4:20:26 GMT -5

Sometimes I think people just see things differently than I do. I remember everything thinking 2009 was the best Bonnaroo lineup ever, and I thought it was weak as hell, because it was extremely top-heavy with a weak undercard. I think that might happen this year - a great 1-15, lots of filler. I could be wrong, who knows.

And I really feel like Bonnaroo does play it safe. I love that Coachella is saying "f*ck it, Blur and the Stone Roses are great and have huge international followings, we're letting them headline." Rather than trying to appease every idiot who can't comprehend something they don't hear on their favorite Modern Rock Faux-Indie Spotify stations as being popular, they're just putting good music up. If you personally don't know why Blur and the Stone Roses should be top line, that's on you, not them.

Really, the only bad/questionable headliner here is RHCP.

RHCP isn't questionable, it's fcking awful. Has anyone else every headlined the big 3 in the same 12 months?

Post by wolfmanjess on Jan 25, 2013 4:24:27 GMT -5

Jess, can we not argue about Widespread for the 34897395785th time? They're never headlining any of the other major festivals again. They are a Roo headliner, otherwise they headline small-scale festivals (no shame in that). Let's move on.

No major festival except Bonnaroo...... The reasons they do not headline Coachella or Lolla is the same reason the majority of the "headliners" they have would never headline at Bonnaroo. It has nothing to do with being a smaller band.

Post by RxMarky Mark on Jan 25, 2013 4:27:12 GMT -5

For all your facts WSP is a headliner and brings a crowd. Everyone has different tastes but I did not see one name on the Coachella line up that I'd pay to see. Panic has been around a long time and will still be headling long after many of these "headliners" are has beens. Fact is they are headlineing Wakarusa, Mountain Jam and Wanee and will likely headline Bonnaroo once again.

But they didn't sell out a auditorium in bumf*ck florida once so that has to count.

The funny part is Bonnaroo was started as a Widespread PAnic based festival during the Phish hiatus, and they literally hired the staff that did the Phish festivals to design Bonnaroo. Yet another reason I always find it funny that people are surprised about Panic headlining a lot.

I honestly don't care if Panic HLs a lot. I know that with a 4 day festival we aren't likely to get anyone too big in the Sunday HL spot. I'm usually pretty pooped out by then anyway. MMJ would likely be the only realistic Sunday artist I would stay for anyway. I wasn't trying to insult WSP, I swear.

Post by Flanz on Jan 25, 2013 4:28:08 GMT -5

No major festival except Bonnaroo...... The reasons they do not headline Coachella or Lolla is the same reason the majority of the "headliners" they have would never headline at Bonnaroo. It has nothing to do with being a smaller band.

Did I say they're a "smaller" band? No. I said they're never headlining any of the other major festivals (I said they'd still headline Bonnaroo, so I don't no why you felt the need to harp on that point) and this argument is pointless....still.

Post by wolfmanjess on Jan 25, 2013 4:31:22 GMT -5

No major festival except Bonnaroo...... The reasons they do not headline Coachella or Lolla is the same reason the majority of the "headliners" they have would never headline at Bonnaroo. It has nothing to do with being a smaller band.

Did I say they're a "smaller" band? No. I said they're never headlining any of the other major festivals (I said they'd still headline Bonnaroo, so I don't no why you felt the need to harp on that point) and this argument is pointless....still.

I was just pointing out that the inverse was also true, and for instance The Strokes are never going to headline anything other than small indie festivals, never Bonnaroo. I guess it is silly but occasionally I hear just one to many not a real headliner remarks and feel like pointing it out.

Post by wolfmanjess on Jan 25, 2013 4:36:08 GMT -5

No major festival except Bonnaroo...... The reasons they do not headline Coachella or Lolla is the same reason the majority of the "headliners" they have would never headline at Bonnaroo. It has nothing to do with being a smaller band.

With few exceptions, nearly every headliner Coachella has ever booked either would, or could headline Bonnaroo. I'm not nearly as familiar with Lollapalooza, but here is a list of recent Coachella headliners:

Pretty much every act on there that has played Bonnaroo has headlined. The one that haven't headlined either a) haven't played, or b) will be headlining the next time they do.

Yes the shared headliners are there, but you are leaving out the Strokes, The Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Pavement etc..., and a lot of those you listed are questionable as to whether they would be a LN Which instead like Bjork, Gorillaz, or Black Keys. So I still stand by what I said pretty much every year Coachella has one act that would not headline at all at Bonnaroo.

Post by stratsg90 on Jan 25, 2013 5:25:59 GMT -5

I always thought of Wu-Tang as a LN tent act. And I would very much like to see that.

I would think late-night Which, just because I'd be shocked if the whole Clan got the same slot as GZA solo. Either that or pre-headliner on What, or maybe closing down the Which on either Friday or Saturday.