They're BITTER today. Holy shit. Our fanbase will rage, but I get the impression we are self-critical to a fault. Are Spartans able to rationalize this? In other words, have you heard any Sparty wonder why they didn't have a "safe" return called when they were flagged for running into the kicker?

Let's try to be compassionate - we'd be a little upset today, as well.

You won't hear me shout out Joffrey's name. You won't hear me yell for Casterly Rock either. This is your city Stannis means to sack and that's your gate he means to bring down. So come with me and kill the son of a bitch!

It's awesome. They are losing it. I avoided Sparty today. Tommorrow I seek them out.

No offense to the non-alums while I go arrogant here but it must be like the day many of them got their skinny letter which started "We are sorry to inform you that that your application to the Universty of Michigan has been rejected..." It brought up that instituional rejection memory they never quite shook from their perky blonde heads (no offense to blondes)

To be frank, I'd say that someone who got into Michigan and chose not to go is someone far dumber than someone who wanted to go to Michigan but simply couldn't get in. If you had the M in your hands and dropped it, you should be ashamed...

To be frank, I'd say that's the dumbest fucking thing I've seen today that wasn't on the RCMB. But since you aren't able to imagine any circumstances beyond your own, I'll add that I didn't chose not to go. It would be nice if 17yo's had that much control over things, but it sure didn't work that way in my case.

Maybe that came across as a little flamebait-ish.,, but I stand by my point. How you equate "circumstances beyond control" with someone who chooses not to go is beyond me. Clearly, if they chose not to go, it implies they had a choice. [And furthermore, as someone who didn't come from means but went to M anyway, I'd argue that you should want to make it happen no matter what. But I'll set that aside and stick with my original point, "choice."] I have friends who grew up Michigan fans and didn't get in, and then became State fans when they got in there. I'm not happy about it, but they were (literally) rejected by the school they loved, naturally felt scorned, and wanted to be a part of their new school... so I can at least understand it.

What I don't understand is someone with the opportunity to join one of the greatest universities in the world and CHOOSES (being the operative word) not to attend it. Obviously, circumstances outside the applicant's control wouldn't fall under the category of his "choice," would it? Because for it to be a choice, it has to be a viable option. Otherwise, it was never really a choice.

Additionally, you have no basis to assume I can't understand others' circumstances. Far from it--I just happen to think they there aren't very many that can justify passing on the University of Michigan. And if you think that somehow makes this "the dumbest fucking thing outside of RCMB," I suppose I'll have to respectfully disagree.

There's no apology in there. But if you read one in it, maybe that also explains how you saw things in my first post that weren't there. I absolutely stick by my point: choice + admittance + not going to Michigan = stupid.

unless you simply had a better educational opportunity. Chose West Point over Michigan...best decision I ever made. "= stupid"? Hardly. Doesn't mean I don't love UM any less; just had an opportunity of a lifetime for higher education AND future service. Passing on that would've been stupid.

People choose their schools for a variety of reasons, personal, pragmatic, patriotic, and on and on. A lifelong, die hard Michigan fan, I had the opportunity to go to UofM for undergrad and graduate school, but, for reasons of my own, chose to go to other schools where I got an excellent education; I would choose to go to them again without thinking twice. Neither of those decisions diminished my love and support for Michigan in any way. It is self-evidently stupid to assume that every decision not to attend Michigan, despite the opportunity, is a stupid decision.

You won't hear me shout out Joffrey's name. You won't hear me yell for Casterly Rock either. This is your city Stannis means to sack and that's your gate he means to bring down. So come with me and kill the son of a bitch!

Personally I thought it was bad from both sides. After the BCS selection show, my facebook newsfeed was barraged by some of the stupider Michigan fans I know saying things like "Suck it Sparty!" (completely unneccesary for one, and also stupid because we lost to them this year). And then there were Sparties of course whining incessantly and resorting to the classic "Michigan girls are ugly" and posting that godawful Drew Sharp article in their defense.

To me, it is what it is. MSU was better than us in the head-to-head game and that's all that matters to me. We're going to a better bowl, but I would have much rather have been playing in the B1G championship.

MSU didn't deserve to play in a BCS bowl. They lost three games, and so other teams were ranked ahead of them and they didn't make the top 14. It's not like BCS bowls even had a choice to pick MSU for a BCS and passed them over for Michigan. MSU fans have very little reason at all to be upset that they didn't get a BCS bowl. Yet many of them seem to be.

The real reason they seem to be so upset is that Michigan got one and was undeserving. But Michigan didn't succeed at the expense of MSU in this case. In fact, you can make a case that Michigan going to the BCS actually helped MSU get a better bowl, because Michigan would not be competing with MSU for the Capital One/Outback/Gator bowls. The Spartiest thing to do is to root against your own interest. Plus, Michigan's in a BCS bowl with a very beatable opponent. Anyway, this benefits Sparty in every way except recruiting.

If Michigan had not been in the bowl picture this year, there would be very little yapping out of Spartyville--they would go to Florida and play in their bowl and that would be that...

BUT...with Michigan back in the bowl scene, and now going to a BCS and they don't, everything is magnified, the world is out to screw them, Michigan doesn't deserve it...blah blah blah.

Their obsession with all things Michigan is unmistakable and predictable. Spartan Football--GREEN with envy. (...and I do think those crumpled up letters from Ted Spencer wishing them well in whatever academic endeavour they pursue don't help things)

"To do is to be" --- Plato
"To be is to do" --- Aristotle
"Do be do be do" --- Frank Sinatra

Why the whining?? You won the division. You got the honor of playing in the first championship game. Take pride in that.

You had the channce to play in the "grand-daddy of them all"...the Rose Bowl!

Thats a BCS bowl last i looked.

You blew it. Plain and simple. So after choking at your chance you think the powers that be should swoop in and send you to some OTHER BCS bowl as a reward?? Would you feel the same way had it been the Wolverines in the exact same situation? Did'nt think so.

You took a stupid penalty that cost you the Rose bowl and now its everyone else's fault that you got left out?

As your QB stated.....the Wolverines were "home sitting on the couch" because we did not earn the right to play in that game. You did. And you LOST.

The bowl system is not fair. Just like life. Deal with it.

I down-vote ANYONE that puts the "t" in front of osu. Don't be a tool.

My only counter to to this is that VT also lost its automatic bid opportunity, and lost it rather impressively to Clemson, yet they are going to a BCS bowl. Their resume isn't close to that of MSU's, and yet they were chosen for reasons beyond what happened on the field. I honestly think the MSU faithful don't care that much that UM made the BCS if MSU had also made it, but when a system rewards being blown out in your conference championship while punishing another team for losing close, that doesn't feel right.

If MSU would have beaten ND and lost to UM then things would have been reversed. UM would have been in the B1G title game and MSU would have been home watching from the couch. If MSU is so upset with the way things turned out tell them to lose to us next year and things will be better!

When I saw the Spartan player run into the punter near the end of the game I couldn't believe that Dantonio went for a punt block instead of setting up the return. After that, all I could think of was one of JL Smith's rants:

"The kids are playing their tails off and the coaches are screwing it up!"

Can a guy's face get any redder than that? This picture is unreal. The difference between Hoke and Kelly dealing with their players is like night and day. Who would feel uncomfortable sending their kid to be coached by Hoke after seeing this difference? That, and it being Michigan, fergodsakes.

Admitting he made the call doesn't mean he actually made it. Not just me, but a lot of other people think Dantonio stepped up to take the bullet so his player wouldn't have to. Good arguments can be made both ways on whether to try to go for the block or not in that situation. Since it can be argued whether Dantonio made the call or not, that's why I asked if you can tell by watching the play (the actions of the 11 players) if a block was on or not.

I went back and rewatched it to me and it didn't look like a full blown punt block. The guys in the middle rushed pretty hard but the other guy on the outside took coverage and bailed- Lewis was the only one that seemed to go hard after the punter. I don't know if that's how punt blocks work...but it seems like if you're trying to block it you send everybody.

If so kudos to Dantonio for taking one for a player. If that's true, I think that's pretty cool and probably saved the kid a lifetime of humiliation.

Spartan fans are strangely proud of the fact that no one outside of East Lansing cares about their football team enough to fill up their stadium. Then they get really upset when bowl season comes around and they get passed over for a team that has a large nation-wide fanbase. It's quite ironic actually

Can we at least drop the "at home sitting on the couch" garbage? Can anyone point out an intact couch in East Lansing after last night? It is physically impossible to sit on a couch in EL after the greatest SPARTY NO moment to date.

MSU says they got treated unfairly by the BCS. That couldn’t be further from the truth.

The usual arguments involve their stupid game-ending penalty this week, their lucky, deflected hail mary overturned-call pass a few weeks ago, their multiple blowout losses to teams beaten by UM and their failure to even meet the minimal 14th-or-better rank for a shot at the BCS

MSU’s counterargument asks us to focus just on the UM MSU game. OK, let’s do that, since it reveals another good reason for NOT giving MSU any special BCS consideration.

Their unsportsmanlike, intentionally injurious acts in that game bordered on overt cheating by coaches and players known for such behavior.

-Gholston’s two assaults with intent to injure on UM’s star QB. (First, Gholston jumped on a pile after a play was over, reached down over 3-4 teammates in order to grab Denard’s facemask. He then jerked it 180 degrees in a clearly intentional effort to injure the neck of the helpless QB on the bottom of the pile. Later he punched Lewan in the neck after a play was over.) Gholston should have been thrown out of the game for either offense, but was allowed to continue “playing.” Only the next week was Gholston suspended for a game, but that was far too late to compensate Michigan for the injuries.

- in one of half a dozen other personal fouls (and ignoring many others not seen or called), another MSU player once again hit Denard after the whistle. The assailant from MSU got only a 15 yard penalty. Denard had to leave the game—the equivalent of a game misconduct penalty for doing nothing.

So you MSU boosters out there---you tell me about “fair” treatment. Also, remember that these assaults were not isolated occurences from one or two players but may have involved direct or indirect approval of the coaches.

--The DC in that game exhorted the team to play “60 minutes of unnecessary roughness” (including time between plays)

-the HC already had a track record of players who intentionally injured the opposing team’s best players (recall Dantonio’s previous coaching of an OSU player who intentionally and repeatedly hit a Wisc QB in the throat in order to disable him).

-these coachesactively recruited felons and reinstated a dozen or more players involved in a group assault.

That’s not the kind of team that deserves prime-time TV coverage, which will inspire a new generation of young people.

So, when the MSU boosters cry about not being treated fairly, it reveals a complete unawareness of their own shameful public image. Their pathetic whining about fairness also reeks of hypocrisy

"It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach."

Is a stand up dude when it doesn't come to Michigan. He is like the noble General who knows the consequences of being "The Guy". If he did, cool. If he didn't call it, cool. Doesn't make a difference, we get to top our cereal and anything else you can think of with Sugar and hopefully get to hold that Sugar Bowl on January 3rd. The rest does not matter, I want the Big Ten to do good, and that goes for Sparty. I mean I cant stand the SEC but if the Big Ten went 1-9 and we were the only winners, then I am cool with that cause that means we won. I do not care about anybody else but Team 132. And for the last time, please no responses about how we dont deserve this bowl game, Virginia Tech does not deserve this bowl game. Can I get the resumes for Boise and Kansas State. No way both were getting in but damn man. I mean I havent seen one post (forgive me if Im wrong) about Alabama losing a three point game, not winning their conference, and still getting into the title game. Ohio 42 Michigan 39. Where was that game at? Well we all get screwed their Sparty but maybe its me but honestly you need to leave those weak excuses at home, go win the Outback Bowl and then come back strong next year. I mean I remember Urban Meyer on TV selling Florida like it was his own kid in '06 and then what happened next year. He and his Florida boys got handled in their own back yard by the very team that he snubbed. So please stop the complaining and go out and handle your business. Go Blue! Go Team 132!

P.S. By the way there is no chance the Spartans you walk out of Ann Arbor with a win next year! So you might want to start focusing on the present or Georgia is gonna run up and down the field and put up 43 points on you. LOL! If Georgia scores 24 I will be overly impressed.