Ray Stanford was a lightning rod topic for quite awhile over in those forums because Chris O'Brien would constantly rave about Ray and his "research" on virtually every episode of the show. Then he got so pissed at all of us ripping him in the forums that he swore he would never mention Ray again. That lasted maybe 2 weeks and then he basically told all of us saying "put up or shut up" to fuck off (paraphrasing) and that he'd talk about Ray whenever he wanted and that if anyone doubted Ray's photos, call him up so you could visit him and see the research for yourself. . . On a tangential note, I listened to an interview with Stanford on Martin Willis' UFO Podcast several years ago where he actually said to Martin, "I told my wife, if I pass away, just put all of my research in a pile and light it on fire." I mean, what the fuck? That comment alone made me lose any respect for the man as a serious researcher. Who thinks that way? The selfishness was stunning. I also find it raises more questions about his materials and attitude.

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I discuss what I call "the private UFO peep shows at Stanford's residence" (also referred to as "private viewings of the Stanford artifacts at 'Ray Stanford University'") in a new thread here. Also touched on in that thread is the attitude/psychology.