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Subject: Re: MD5 in LISP and abstraction inversions
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* Juliusz Chroboczek
| The problem (I find) is with nice people who submit code for inclusion
| in a future version, and get offended when you refuse on stylistic grounds.
Well, try submitting something that uses standard if, when, unless, or
loop, to people who believe in a certain "Lisp Coding Standard" document
and get chided for using standard Common Lisp. It is certainly rejection
on stylistic grounds, but so irrational that future attempts to deal with
such people is tainted with an unanswered "why bother?". In many cases,
stylistic grounds are indeed irrational as seen from the receiver, and
the most rational thing in the world by the person arguing them, but it
is probably fair to assume that the submitter of a thus rejected patch is
in his right to consider the argument irrational, and probably the person
who argues with them. On the other hand, the inability to continue to
use a style that the code alrady uses may just be irrationally stubborn
or ignorant, but it depends a little on how the style evolved. If it is
the kind of style that deprecates standard features in favor of a bogus
"invention" of the writer, that writer is trying to build a community all
of his own, explicitly rejecting the community that the suggester would
like to belong to. I find such behavior offensive and good grounds never
again to submit code to such people. Fortunately, there are usually only
single individuals who are so beyond reach.
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