(NSFW) Do you find this girl attractive? Why or why not?

You may or may not know this but I am 100% bi-sexual. Me and a girlfriend of mine got into a debate about what is pretty and what is not. So as I often say now, "OFF TO THINK ATHEIST INTERWEBS TO ASK RATIONAL PEOPLE!"

So here I am with a few questions:

What turns you on about this girl?

What turns you off about this girl?

Why is this girl considered beautiful?

Is this girl beautiful?

Does the notion of her breasts being covered make you more attracted because you know she is naked in the (NSFW) *Not Safe For Work*unaltered picture(NSFW)

Did you click on theNSFWpicture? Why or why not?

Be honest if you clicked on it or not!

I will be at work most of the day but I will be able to read most of your responses on my phone.

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Her long hair (I don't date girls with short hair, call me an asshole lol) and her eyes - love the green.Nice complexion too, and good muscle tone.

The only thing is the lipstick / lip gloss. It makes me not think about kissing her.

I consider her beautiful, but others might not...I'd be interested to hear why someone would NOT find her beautiful.

Yes, she is gorgeous. Very beautiful.

I think it's always more exciting to undress a girl - seeing a girl fully undressed usually takes the spark out of it. I prefer porn where the girl is dressed , then undressed slowly rather than starting the video totally naked. I guess some guys would disagree......

As a teenage male I would say that she is pretty hot. In my eyes there is a difference between beautiful and hot. This woman is definitely hot.

I would say the things that turn me on about this pic is that the woman has perfect completion, her pose, her skin tone, the shape of her face, the shape of the things in the NSFW pic, and the look of her hair.

A slight turn of is her mouth being kind of open but not a substantial amount if that makes any sense.

I differentiate between hot and beautiful with a sort of litmus test... If she looks like you would want to spend just a couple of nights with her shes hot, if you want her to be with you for a long term relationship she is beautiful.

I have to admit that I clicked on the picture. All I saw was her hair and was thinking "it cant be that bad".

Something about her isn't natural. I don't know if it's the makeup or the pose, or the lighting. But, it doesn't strike me as being merely a photograph of a pretty girl. I feel like I'm being sold something, and I'm not buying it, whatever it is.

Her lips. Her lips could be natural. But, they also look too pouty.

Also, the finish on the photo makes her resemble something out of Avatar.

3. Why is this girl considered beautiful?

She's well-proportioned, both in her face and her body. She has green eyes.

4. Is this girl beautiful?

Maybe. But, she doesn't strike me as someone I could talk to. Maybe I'm reading too much into it.

5. Does the notion of her breasts being covered make you more attracted because you know she is naked in the (NSFW) *Not Safe For Work*unaltered picture(NSFW).

Not necessarily. If she had on a loose fitting, slightly sheer shirt it would be more provocative than the black stripe.

1. Turn-ons: the contrast of her hair and eye color; the assortment of bracelets would seem to indicate an appreciation of creativity as well as a total lack of concern for what most would consider an appropriate style.2. Turn-offs: eye color is most likely unnatural; lips are alittle ridiculous (collagen injections); although she is not fat, belly fat has built up enough to expand her belly button a bit which indicates a rather lethargic lifestyle. 3. Because she has breasts and people are lonely... I'm assuming.4. Beauty comes from a complete picture... not an image.5. I'm less attracted because IMHO nudity is a personal thing, and when someone reduces themselves purely to an attractive image of their body for money there is no intimacy. It also devalues themselves and manipulates the emotions of others in the pursuit of wealth, which seems kinda inethical to me.6. No. The internet can be described as a large orgy that your computer goes to romp in every time you connect; clicking on links promising wanking material is the equivalent of not using protection. So I would rather try to keep my computer free of STDs in the giant orgy of computers that is the internet.

As a person who's been working with Photoshop-like tools for years now, and has 'shopped dozens of images (my current projects are images concerning art history for my girlfriend), I have developed a rather peculiar view concerning such images.

So instead of answering the questions in order, let me write a few words from that point of view.

(TLDR version at the bottom of the post)

First of all, I do not find the picture in question attractive at all. I have personally 'shopped more than a dozen images of my friends and I know from my personal experience that this picture has been 'shopped with more than a few layers of skin blurring, airbrushing, shape correction, symmetry of the body and facial lines, colour enhancement, and possibly even a few lines of make-up and added jewellery. In truth, she needn't even wear makeup in reality - Photoshop can take care of that easily.

That having said, I must repeat that I don't find the picture in question attractive, and I am fairly certain that the attractiveness/beauty of the woman on the picture cannot be easily judged because none of you have actually seen the woman in question at all. This is like asking whether Mona Lisa was an attractive woman - has anyone of us ever seen her in person? No, I didn't think so.

However, I understand why this girl would be considered beautiful - people with little or no experience with image enhancement will fail to see just how much this image has been altered compared to the original, and it is indeed true that the alterations have been made to make her look more attractive. I understand this view, but I don't agree with it. Do you consider Lara Croft from the Tomb Raider game attractive? Do you consider Misato Katsuragi from NGE or Motoko Kusanagi from GitS attractive? I understand that some people would, but most people who would say "no", would still say "yes" to this picture, oblivious to the fact that this picture is just as much of a "cartoon" as the aforementioned three. So, in the end, it all boils down to how well you can fool people visually. This is probably the main thing that turns me off about this image - the image producer was most likely trying to fool me into thinking this girl looks the way she, in reality, does not.

Having said that, I must express the other reason why I am not so easily turned on by such things - the thing that turns me on the most is one's intellect, and not looks.

I did click on the NSFW image. In all honesty. I know you might not believe me, but I'm telling you I did. Seriously. :D

I don't think anybody would recognise her if they saw her before being photoshopped.

But this is what porn is all about, the basic, primitve, instinctive reaction. That is why this stuff sells, to the tune of billions. She is fantasy, and most, not all, men have that reaction. It's jimmied up photos like these that normal women can never aspire to, and can make men very dissatisfied with 'their' female.

It is the smart ones that really understand what is going on, but, men will NEVER stop looking at porn - that's just the way it is.

"It's jimmied up photos like these that normal women can never aspire to, and can make men very dissatisfied with 'their' female."

Good thing Apollo is not the Western male body image and that high income expectations never have driven a female dissatisfied with 'their' male, otherwise you would have seemed a tad hypocritical there. ;)

By the by, I thought this was a really interesting conversation. I am so glad other things are talked about - and I am always willing to learn how other people think.

Sorry, Arcus, I left out the word generally, But this is what porn is all about, generally. Not saying this is porn, but she wouldn't be in a gardening magazine:)

The jimmied up photos are also in women's magazine. Women are their own worst enemy, and comment on how other women 'Look", too fat, too thin, big bum, no bum, etc. etc. And women by these magazines by the truckload.

I just don't get that. But men looking at porn, I have found out, through my partner, is completely 'normal', whatever that means. I place absolutely no guilt on him.

There are times, when I have come across as a strident 'feminist', but I have great respect for men, 'cause I live with an absolutely fabulous bloke, and he explains everything to me, all part of my education, in what makes men tick.

And oh, yes, women can be bitchy, manipulating, shites. I know a twenty three year old about to marry a sixty five year old - oh, yes, he has money, I call him Mr. Potato Man - gross, but he is loaded, and he likes this young girl on his arm. Happens all the time.

But I really dislike any bloke with a six pack, and big muscles, as they are usually thick, and have to spend hours at said gym, everything rotates around them. Same with the women. Never been attracted to it. Give me nerds and geeks any time.

How does the 'Apollo' look effect men, generally, does it make them feel inferior, and should they exercise more etc. or don't men, generally give a shite.