Automation won’t hit us all the same. It will be rich vs poor, east vs west, white collar vs blue collar. Worldwide. Countries most affected will be ones highly dependent on jobs that can be easily automated, such as food preparation, construction, cleaning and driving.

Mathias Döpfner, the CEO of Business Insider’s parent company, Axel Springer, recently sat down with Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos to talk about the early days of creating Amazon, what he’s learned since then, how he funds his rocket company, Blue Origin, and what it’s like when the president of the United States is your biggest critic.