Gangstress is 100% right. This argument has been made thousands of times on this board. It is by far the #1 reason why Graf's credentials as GOAT get called into question. That said, it's obviously bullshit.

This one person making all of these new "British" posters needs to get back on his meds.

What a load of BS. This isn't the lottery. A 19 year-old dominant no.1 is expected to win more. Graf fans playing the fool is also expected. Who knows? Hmm let me think...Graf wouldn't have won 22 slams, that's what. Of course it takes away from her achievements. When another player other than Nadal won RG in 2009, it was called all sorts of things but deserved even though Nadal was in the draw. Imagine the uproar if he had been stabbed by a Federer fan and Federer had won two calendar year grand slams! We wouldn't hear the end of it. Don't get upset when people bring up the stabbing because it's a part of Graf's legacy.

I admire your determination. But how often are you going to keep repeating the same thing over and over again, when obviously no one cares (here or anywhere else, judging by her respect and accolades)??

Thanks for the compliment, well taken!

You say no one cares. Ha, what a joke. I don't know if there will ever be a mention of Graf, and her history that will not include the mention of the stabbing and what it did to her record.

Why don't you all stop posting her TAINTED slam count over and over and over and over.

The only player id suggest is overlooked is Evert, the women doesnt get nearly enough acknowledgement on this forum!!

She also is the ONLY player to have had her main rival stabbed so she could win slams too.. And every GOAT thread/poll should have the * and it will be there even if it is not seen. Find me a history of Graf's slam count that don't include the mention of the stabbing.. Can't be done!!

What a load of BS. This isn't the lottery. A 19 year-old dominant no.1 is expected to win more. Graf fans playing the fool is also expected. Who knows? Hmm let me think...Graf wouldn't have won 22 slams, that's what. Of course it takes away from her achievements. When another player other than Nadal won RG in 2009, it was called all sorts of things but deserved even though Nadal was in the draw.

I dunno in what planet that happened but here on earth, Soderling is nothing short of a holy saint. No one has ever heard anyone claiming that Robin didn't deserve it (outside of Nadaltard circles). I don't even know what that's got to do with the stabbing anyway since circumstances beyond a player's control are irrelevant in determining credits. Otherwise we might as well scrap all slams that were awarded during Monica's active career.

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Imagine the uproar if he had been stabbed by a Federer fan and Federer had won two calendar year grand slams!

Least possible scenario, so no need to imagine that - certainly not since experience shows that Nadaltards stabbing Federer is a much more likely scenario:

I dunno in what planet that happened but here on earth, Soderling is nothing short of a holy saint. No one has ever heard anyone claiming that Robin didn't deserve it (outside of Nadaltard circles). I don't even know what that's got to do with the stabbing anyway since circumstances beyond a player's control are irrelevant in determining credits. Otherwise we might as well scrap all slams that were awarded during Monica's active career.

Least possible scenario, so no need to imagine that - certainly not while experience shows that Nadaltards stabbing Federer is much more likely to happen:

Yeah because that is literally the only alternative.

Or we might be intelligent and make reasonable estimations. We might say that Seles WOULD positively have won more and Graf wouldn't.