"This is a critical review of Debian 3.0, but I want to say right from the start that I'm not trying to bait anyone. However I feel that reviewers often root for Debian as the open-source underdog, and give it marks which it doesn't deserve. If RedHat 8.0 came out with installation software like Debian 3.0 it would be savaged. I think it's time for an honest review, to spur the Debian developers into making the best possible distribution. I really want Debian to succeed. I want to use it daily, and recommend it to my friends. But I can't do that right now and I think it's important people understand why."Read the review and its (already long) discussion at DebianPlanet.

> well, thre is nothing there as far as cool stuff like automatic samba configurations or cool little gui apps for system management integrated tightly with the DE

I asked for innovation, not gui front ends.
So, do they have special changes to the Linux kernel to make coffee, do they support... beowulf out of the box? What are THEIR advancements in the last 2-3 years? Are they just patching up what they already got with newer versions and filling security holes? Is this the whole innovation Debian has to offer for its *new* versions?

Jeremy, I think you don't know the answer to any of this. Your very first statement about debian being technical and that the reviewer is an clueless, just makes you look like a parrot, copying/pasting things found on the "about us" page of Debian. Sorry.

So, anyone else know the answer to the question I asked in the first page of this comment's section?