SHOT show is next week. I looked through the list of exhibitors in an attempt to tabulate the companies that I want to visit. It turned out that I want to visit most of them and there is no time for that. Then I made a list of companies that have something to do with optics. I will visit most of these although probably not all. Realistically, I will try to allocate one day to non-optics companies and the rest of fthe time to optics-related stuff. We'll see how it goes. Here are the companies I found that make scopes and/or binoculars (with booth numbers):

FIrst, as a general disclaimer, it is impossible to tell whether a scope is any good by looking at it at the SHOT Show. I can only get a very genral idea of the controls and finish quality.

So far I added Fujinon.

As for Eagle Eye optics, cheaptrick, when I did not find them on the list, I decided to call them and see if they might be around. It turns out that they will skip the show, since they are concerned that their scope might all fall apart by the time they get there. FLorida is just too far.

As for Eagle Eye optics, cheaptrick, when I did not find them on the list, I decided to call them and see if they might be around. It turns out that they will skip the show, since they are concerned that their scope might all fall apart by the time they get there. FLorida is just too far.

I'd really like to get your take on the Leatherwood Uni-Dial scopes. I read about them on their website and they brag on clarity and durability. Then, I go to SWFA and see that they are relatively inexpensive scopes produced in China.

I am not a big fan of Leatherwood scopes (although it has been a couple of years since I last played with them), so I was not going to spend much time in their booth. I will stop by to see if they have something I have not run into before. Generally, I do not like scopes with external adjustments that are exposed to the elements, so the Camputer scopes that I looked at did not seem interesting.

As for Uni-dial, I do not think I ever played with that one, but I like Kahles' Multizero which sounds like a very similar thing. I'll go and see if Leatherwood's execution of this concept is substantially different.

I am not a big fan of Leatherwood scopes (although it has been a couple of years since I last played with them), so I was not going to spend much time in their booth. I will stop by to see if they have something I have not run into before. Generally, I do not like scopes with external adjustments that are exposed to the elements, so the Camputer scopes that I looked at did not seem interesting.

As for Uni-dial, I do not think I ever played with that one, but I like Kahles' Multizero which sounds like a very similar thing. I'll go and see if Leatherwood's execution of this concept is substantially different.

ILya

I have not used the unidial.

It is my firm belief that Kahles copied the Leatherwood multizero function. ILya, you might discuss this with Corbett Leatherwood at the SHOT show.

The camputer is an excellent method for getting on target at unknown range VERY quickly. IF one knows the game one is hunting, and therefore its size, by "dialing" the range dial, which then changes the rail elevation, and "framing" the known target size, one merely places the crosshairs on the desired POI and fires. It is without a doubt the fastest, for unknown ranges, targeting system available in an optic.

Current Leatherwood scope glass is highly improved over the earlier Sporter models. There have been quality problems, but a major revamping of the quality control system has been executed, and customer service is excellent. IF you have a problem, they will make it right.

Some of the "high end" scope makers purchase Chinese glass and put their name on it. Some of the Chinese glass is as good as there is. However, their quality control is not very good and is inconsistent.

My point is, do not discount them just on hearsay and, as ILya said, a scope cannot be evaluated by "looking through it" in a building. I believe Leatherwood has a money back policy if you don't like the scope. The camputer scopes only really look good on tactical type rifles, so if you are looking for a "pure hunter" it is probably not the right choice. The unidials are traditional looking scopes, but I have only a one time experience with one. For that instance, it was fine, but I cannot really comment on real usage. The guy who had it I met at the range and I fired a few rounds with it through his rifle. Worked well.

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I am not a big fan of Leatherwood scopes (although it has been a couple of years since I last played with them), so I was not going to spend much time in their booth. I will stop by to see if they have something I have not run into before. Generally, I do not like scopes with external adjustments that are exposed to the elements, so the Camputer scopes that I looked at did not seem interesting.

As for Uni-dial, I do not think I ever played with that one, but I like Kahles' Multizero which sounds like a very similar thing. I'll go and see if Leatherwood's execution of this concept is substantially different.

ILya

I have not used the unidial.

It is my firm belief that Kahles copied the Leatherwood multizero function. ILya, you might discuss this with Corbett Leatherwood at the SHOT show.

The camputer is an excellent method for getting on target at unknown range VERY quickly. IF one knows the game one is hunting, and therefore its size, by "dialing" the range dial, which then changes the rail elevation, and "framing" the known target size, one merely places the crosshairs on the desired POI and fires. It is without a doubt the fastest, for unknown ranges, targeting system available in an optic.

Current Leatherwood scope glass is highly improved over the earlier Sporter models. There have been quality problems, but a major revamping of the quality control system has been executed, and customer service is excellent. IF you have a problem, they will make it right.

Some of the "high end" scope makers purchase Chinese glass and put their name on it. Some of the Chinese glass is as good as there is. However, their quality control is not very good and is inconsistent.

My point is, do not discount them just on hearsay and, as ILya said, a scope cannot be evaluated by "looking through it" in a building. I believe Leatherwood has a money back policy if you don't like the scope. The camputer scopes only really look good on tactical type rifles, so if you are looking for a "pure hunter" it is probably not the right choice. The unidials are traditional looking scopes, but I have only a one time experience with one. For that instance, it was fine, but I cannot really comment on real usage. The guy who had it I met at the range and I fired a few rounds with it through his rifle. Worked well.

If you are saying they have been improved, I will give them another look, although probably not the Camputer. As I said, I have some ideological problems with external adjustments like that. Perhaps, I'll look at the Unidial 3-12x50 or 4-16x50 could be interesting. I'll see what the look like at the SHOT Show and I'll try to get my hands on one afterwards.

Presumably, Corbett Leatherwood is the guy who owns/runs the company? Do you know him well?

I am not a big fan of Leatherwood scopes (although it has been a couple of years since I last played with them), so I was not going to spend much time in their booth. I will stop by to see if they have something I have not run into before. Generally, I do not like scopes with external adjustments that are exposed to the elements, so the Camputer scopes that I looked at did not seem interesting.

As for Uni-dial, I do not think I ever played with that one, but I like Kahles' Multizero which sounds like a very similar thing. I'll go and see if Leatherwood's execution of this concept is substantially different.

I am not a big fan of Leatherwood scopes (although it has been a couple of years since I last played with them), so I was not going to spend much time in their booth. I will stop by to see if they have something I have not run into before. Generally, I do not like scopes with external adjustments that are exposed to the elements, so the Camputer scopes that I looked at did not seem interesting.

As for Uni-dial, I do not think I ever played with that one, but I like Kahles' Multizero which sounds like a very similar thing. I'll go and see if Leatherwood's execution of this concept is substantially different.

ILya

I have not used the unidial.

It is my firm belief that Kahles copied the Leatherwood multizero function. ILya, you might discuss this with Corbett Leatherwood at the SHOT show.

The camputer is an excellent method for getting on target at unknown range VERY quickly. IF one knows the game one is hunting, and therefore its size, by "dialing" the range dial, which then changes the rail elevation, and "framing" the known target size, one merely places the crosshairs on the desired POI and fires. It is without a doubt the fastest, for unknown ranges, targeting system available in an optic.

Current Leatherwood scope glass is highly improved over the earlier Sporter models. There have been quality problems, but a major revamping of the quality control system has been executed, and customer service is excellent. IF you have a problem, they will make it right.

Some of the "high end" scope makers purchase Chinese glass and put their name on it. Some of the Chinese glass is as good as there is. However, their quality control is not very good and is inconsistent.

My point is, do not discount them just on hearsay and, as ILya said, a scope cannot be evaluated by "looking through it" in a building. I believe Leatherwood has a money back policy if you don't like the scope. The camputer scopes only really look good on tactical type rifles, so if you are looking for a "pure hunter" it is probably not the right choice. The unidials are traditional looking scopes, but I have only a one time experience with one. For that instance, it was fine, but I cannot really comment on real usage. The guy who had it I met at the range and I fired a few rounds with it through his rifle. Worked well.

If you are saying they have been improved, I will give them another look, although probably not the Camputer. As I said, I have some ideological problems with external adjustments like that. Perhaps, I'll look at the Unidial 3-12x50 or 4-16x50 could be interesting. I'll see what the look like at the SHOT Show and I'll try to get my hands on one afterwards.

Presumably, Corbett Leatherwood is the guy who owns/runs the company? Do you know him well?

ILya

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