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Top Porn Producer Asks For Sony And The PS3's Support

Like it or not, sex is a part of our video entertainment in this world, and if the PlayStation 3 is truly a full home entertainment system...well, perhaps this was inevitable.

As reported by MCV, the world's largest pornography producer has asked Sony to put downloadable high-definition movies on the PlayStation Network. Vivid Entertainment founder and co-chairman, Steven Hirsch, says the distribution of X-rated films on the PS3 has "real potential" for the entire adult entertainment industry. Heck, the Japanese have already taken advantage; DDM.tv launched an HD porn service, although it's only available in Japan. Said Hirsch:

"[DDM’s launch] is a good start. We hope that Sony will allow adult movies to be downloaded worldwide. As long as proper age verification is in place there is no reason why consumers should not be allowed to view adult movies on any device that they desire. It’s too early to say to what extent this could help our business, but it certainly has real potential."

At the same time, it seems Hirsch and Co. have not yet approached either SCEA or SCEE with this request, so it remains to be seen how Sony reacts to the query. Movies and PlayStation have been in close relations ever since Sony opted to include DVD functionality with the PS2, so perhaps it's only logical that porn comes along with the deal. We'd provide you with more info on Vivid, but we're fairly certain you get the gist; a list of movie names and performers would likely be offensive to many. Deal with it, guys. ;)

Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo do not allow developers to make a game thats rated Adults Only. Why the hell would Sony say yes to this? Do you know how much controversy this would cause? Its never going to happen.

considering the size of the porn industry, this would be a HUGE money making opportunity for sony... however, i am not sure this is the direction sony would want to take the PS3... it might help the sales and overall, i really think it's a win-win situation for sony... but, will it hurt sony's image? i think it would... they would eventually be labeled as a snuff pusher by xbox and the likes... and not a system for the kids, a system for the adults... and really, sony still wants the kids market...

there's factors that need to be weighed in this decision but there's no doubt that both sides would benefit from this partnership... i just wonder if it will hurt sony in the long-run... i'm pretty sure it would...

it's not a bad idea though... i think both sides need to sit down together and at least discuss it... it's interesting that vivid came to sony and not xbox... i think they see HUGE potential there...Last edited by bOnEs on 9/8/2009 10:49:22 AM

Any 15 or 16 year old that has had a bank account opened for them by a parent can lie on their registration and have a CC number to use but as Ben says they can find all the free porn in the world online. And anyway the PS3 has a browser that connects to that cesspool of degradation...oops I mean the internet...anyway the simple fact is you can't stop anyone from doing ANYTHING that they really have set their mind to so porn on the PS3 store or not it doesn't really matter.

If there is a market then why not supply it, I doubt Sony would take Vivid up on this offer, but if they did It would be done is such a way that young Timmy would never even know such content is available. I would not like to see it as part of the PSN store, but a separate section within the movie service that sony has plans for.

Let consenting adults be consenting adults.

You guys should give Porn credit where credit is due, it helped create the high speed internet we take for granted, along with the now standard of Blue Ray not HD-DVD.

Hate to say this but you all keep talking about "oh he can jsut lie blah blah", well yeah, exactly. He can lie at any point. He can just lie about it and do it online to any porn website and get an account by lying and using the correct credentials, no matter people always lie, there's nothing you can do about it. Now I'm not saying this a is a good thing, but like it's already been said, Japan already has a porn service affiliated with the PS3 so saying it's family oriented so they'll say no, that's maybe only part true because the US is so against anything sexual it's insane, but I bet Euro will get it no prob.

well, theres a difference between a computer and ps3. The ps3 is mainly for playing video games which is aimed at a younger demographic, so when people/media/parents hears about things like this, it would get more exposure and end up as a controversial topic. Hell everyone already know that anyone can finds crap like this on the internet. Dont underestimate these kids, they're pretty persistent these days, well.... on stuff like this anyway. No offense to anyone.Last edited by johnld on 9/8/2009 5:03:40 PM

All they have to do to make this work and for everybody to be happy is to sell a blue ray disc to access the content. Then you would just access the content in much the same way as video content is accessed from within GT5 prologue.

YEah Scarecrow those 3 channels are bad enough what with all the brainwashing they try to do.LOL They are bad enough for Sony's image. but seriously there are pornsites on the web that dont even require a CC or Sign up just tons and tons of Porn Videos like youtube for porn... and yeah I would know, before anyone says it, cause I looooves my porn.

I see no problem with this as the PS3 is an entertainment system for ALL the family, not just the kids.

Users of premium television services such as Sky and Virginmedia are able to rent adult material while still letting little Timmy safely watch his cartoons so I really don't see why this should be an issue, but we just know some people will.

Pornography on the PS Store.... Sorry thats just really inappropriote. I can understand the PS3 has become more than just for games, heck i play more DVDs than games on it. However putting pornography is generally degrading.

I dont have a problem with erotic footage,in a game/film. but the intention of pornography when you think about it is pretty pathetic.Also doesnt relate i cant see how selling it on the PS Store is justifed becuase theres no real relation to gaming.

As for violence, i'm not going to defend it. It seems all the mainstream titles of this gen thrive off violence. Which is why i believe we need more Good platforming games, Crash & Sonic have been dead for way to long, Ratchet & Clank never satisfied me.

Why is the intention of Porn pathetic? Humans just like a majority of other species live to have sex. Porn has a negative vibe thanks to intolerance brought about by religious organizations. Porn isn't just around due to individuals sitting alone ruining their lives due to addiction and isolation.

There is a huge difference between sex and masterbation. I'm not saying anything bad about sex. but sex orchastrated for men to whack of to is pretty unrespectable. And even if its not orchistarted and is footage filmed by an amateur its pretty sick to think of most
our generation do this without shame. But then with our generation its becoming normal for anybody to dump footage online thanks to Youtube.

Ultima, everyone masturbates. Sounds like you're a little bashful when it comes to satisfying yourself. If people wish to masturbate while viewing others engaging in sex than so be it. I think you're being quite naive if you believe masturbation is something to ashamed of or viewing porn for its intended purpose.

just because its common does not mean its acceptable. The same could be said for many things, like Youtube bloggers i cant stand people that slouch infront of there webcam and rant on about shit, We need an internet clear up system to remove all the utter sh** there is. The S3 plan from MGS2 is seeming more plausible every day.... sorry went off topic lol

but as for pornography on the PS Store. No, dont flood the store with garbage..... next we may get gamers video blogs on there *shiver*

Ultima you need to take a step back and realize that your personal tastes don't dictate the reality of things. I agree just becuase something is common doesn't mean it's okay (Hormel chili). Seriously though you're personal choices shouldn't restrict others from making their own choices, especially if those choices are legal. You may have a problem with youtube whores and pornography but how is that any different than me telling you I despise Stanley Kubrick films and believe they are negative and should be eliminated.

Ultima you need to take a step back and realize that your personal tastes don't dictate the reality of things. I agree just becuase something is common doesn't mean it's okay (Hormel chili). Seriously though you're personal choices shouldn't restrict others from making their own choices, especially if those choices are legal. You may have a problem with youtube whores and pornography but how is that any different than me telling you I despise Stanley Kubrick films and believe they are negative and should be eliminated.

Well obviously things shouldnt be banned due to my personally taste, but when you get such moral issue i think it goes beyond just personal some times you have to take a leap back and see that somethings are just wrong and need to be dealth with.

For instance people chatting each other up on PS3 Home.... its rediculous you see 10 guys swamming over a girl saying "U Rah RLY pRutAy!" This is over a computer customised avatar.... not a real woman..... I proably mentioned this becasue i saw a trailer for that new Bruce Willis film "Surrogates" It generally made me feel sick

Ultima being gay has been viewed as morally wrong for thousands of years thanks to religious doctrine influencing people. It's clear to me that morals can be wrong. Everyone knows about Porn and many that claim to be against it end up getting caught in a lie. If it comes to the PS3 you can just ignore it just like those annoying kids on Home who are most likely hitting on a man disguised as a girl.

i hope sony goes all out and flood the store with garbage(porn). if people want to view adult related videos or whatever, why cant they do so? as long as its out of the reach of children it should be fine?

if one person, or certain amount of people view it as a wrong thing, than... i guess that person have the choice to not go to the adult section. but why would those choices of certain individuals dictate the overall standard for the rest of the consumers?

i want sony to sell porn, i dont care for it, but maybe we can finally go into a more adult oriented industry. it would push the gaming industry to make more mature games. playing mario is cool but hey! i also wanna see some proper romance! even if this isnt the case, we should at LEAST have the option to choose for ourselves, not choose for others.

whatever happen to freedom?

also it seems like people have a problem when a girl in ps home get swarm with guys. whats wrong with that? some girls like it, some girls dont. who cares? are u a girl? its none of our business. let people do whatever they want. if the girl doesnt want to be talked to, she can mute and block everyone near her. its that easy.

My comments were related to someone's question regarding why anyone would be against the development of GH and games like it. I was clearly giving my personal opinion on the matter and in no way claimed it fit the majority view or felt it would influence any change in protocol.

How the hell did I bash Ultima? We both engaged in a mature conversation and ended it by respecting each others beliefs.

You're starting to not only come off as stupid but annoying. AGAIN my comments on an unrelated topic were a direct answer towards someone's question. My negative views towards games that use a plastic guitar have nothing to do with social standards or limiting the rights of others due to religious doctrine.

By the way you might want to take Jawk's advice and change your pic, it's one thing for your words to come across as narrow minded but when your picture screams it it's time for a change.

I am against this. It not only is inapropiate but it also hurts Sony and ps3 image. It is too easy for anyone to sign up to PSN with an account of 18 years older, heck even Home requires you to be a certain age, and I can't imagine how many user had to create new accounts just to be able to use that. Beside we have the browser, so anyone who can't control themselves can easily use the browser.

Sony has dodged many bullets with the media labeling the ps3 as a console with a high price and no games, if the next one is, "playstation3 to offer pornography from it's integrated store" I can't imagine how many casuals would skip the ps3(that will soon become a very important market for Sony after the release of the playstation wand)

And I don't know about some of you guys but If Sony were to offer pornography via anywhere on the Ps3, I find it to be as degrading as Microsoft's faulty console.Last edited by Charger7302 on 9/8/2009 12:20:01 PM

Regardless of your morals or whatever, people watch porn.
If it was implemented correctly, this would be a good thing for all involved. If they used a white icon with lips like the pic for this article. Also locate it in a sub group in videos, which can be hidden with a button sequence,and the following rules are applied;

1) non PSN download required to display the icon in Movies area. This includes verification of age using SSN or other secure method (Credit card).
2) Icon is non descript as stated above.
3) Ability to hide icon, button sequence used to reveal.
4) First access into the Adult store requires creating a pin number to lock /unlock it.
4) Popups are not allowed.
5) Not just movies, but adult items for sale as well.

ok....everyone loves the lie card here...yeah any kid can lie but should this be the work of the PARENTS to keep their kids in a clean environment at home?? why should it be Sony's responsibility to parent someones kids? Also, this is where the US and other countries differ. Sex is ok in other countries but in the US its frowned upon...why? Sex is a part of life. If your irresponsible with sex (ie kids having kids)then that's your fault not Sony's.

Instead of putting the porn on the PS Store, they can make a fully optimized PS3 browser web site. I believe there was one that came out a couple years back... I think it was japan and full HD, but was shut down. If they can get sonys approval to be able to create and advertise at appropriate places and websites, then it might work out a little better than putting them directly on the store. Since im sure many PS3 owners including myself (I cant lie), have viewed porn from the shiny game console's internet browser.

Sure they can find a way to make it more inaccessible to under age kids on the store, but exposure to kids who happen to be browsing the store would be down.

PS3addict or pornaddict? Really, this is a bad opportunity to Sony. *cough* Jack *cough* Thompson. Anyways, porn in any way is bad. If this ever happens, well, Sony will be in deep shit then. But to make things clear, this is PlayStation 3, NOT PornStation 3. Hell, if my parents ever find out... Well, you just take a guess what will happen... I just might buy a Xbox although I hate it from the core of my heart.

If Sony ever lets porn into Store. I suggest that Sony renames PlayStation 3 system as PornStation 3.Last edited by Sithis on 9/8/2009 1:10:33 PM

Your parents?? Well that there is the problem bub, you are too young and immature to be viewing "Mature" content. If my son or daughter were trying to watch porn, then that is an issue, hence the rules above.

As a mature adult, I want the option to use the "Angles" feature on my sony Bluray remote. : )

Why call it a pornstation, you can go right now onto the web browser and get free highdef porn in 30 seconds or less. I am sure you already know the URL's!!

I think Sony really should take advantage of this. I mean they could make it so you have to validate your age by either CC info or even bank account info age verify. There are plenty of ways that Sony can insure that only someone of age accesses the porn area.

Although yes there is always a way around things, but usually bank verify, CC verify, or even state id verify could be used.

Its going to happen. Sorry guys. grow up. The only reason blu ray still exists is because toshiba and the porn industry backed it up. If not for them we would be in the same hole as xbox right now. Its not a bad idea itd sell. and sell good. and it better not be any girls gone wild BS. Sony isn't a family oriented company how do you explain sex in GOW and Gore in everyother game. It'll be alright.If a kikd lies about their age it isn't sony's problem. that is strictly parents fault.

Porn the PSN hmmmmm. Maybe not a good idea as my god dont get me if im wrong but isn't it a gaming console ? Sorry it is multi media so yeah Sony go ahead put Porn on your site. Next PS4 they bring out can be in a the shape of a penis or something for adults and the controler can be a pair of breasts that you squeeze and the nipple the button lol. I dont think no one would buy or want to go in and ask for the slim version though. Erm the small penis shaped console for me please said the lil pervo in the corner hahahaha.

Maybe we will start getting porno games then ? who knows where this will lead. lol

God it makes me laugh so much :)

On a serious note if it is going to be on the store then make it so it is kid proof as you dont want the anti gaming lot jumping on the band wagon. If your not happy with it you dont have to download it do you or even look at it.Last edited by tlpn99 on 9/8/2009 1:52:41 PM

I think its a good idea. But the truth is just like with everything else parents just need to get off there dead ass and do some parenting!!! I have a kid I'm not sure how many of you poeple have kids but its not that hard. THE PS3 IS NOT A BABYSITTER!!!! For those of you who don't want it, " You don't like, You don't buy!" Things have WARNINGS for a reason. All Sony has to do is educate and use the media to let people know. The porn is good the user is bad! So I think it would be cool to have that option and NO the PS3 HAS NOT BEEN FOR KIDS AND HASN'T BEEN FROM DAY ONE, only hard working adults were the only ones that could get one so the average user is in his or her late 20's. Now if NIN made this move then yeah sound the alarms because Nintendo has been a kids toy since forever. In the end it's just a LAZY ASS parent that don't want to go through the troubles and don't want nothing to do with it.

I've been around and posting for awhile, but I'm definitely not as "regular" as, say, WorldEndsWithMe or Scarecrow. Now it's just a matter of climbing the ladder of fame...And, regarding the bottom of the posts, I've always noticed that there are mostly 0 up, 0 down thumbs down here. If that's any indication.

Sony needs to make everyone who has a drivers license send a copy through the email and that will prove that they're legal age to view such content. In other words people who would want to view such material would have to use there computer and a scanner to get said program started. Also a pincode and a linked PSN ID would need to be in place. The link from the PSN Store "LIPS" in the movie section only would go to a age verification site where you type in your month, day, year, email, PSN ID, and pincode. The age verification website would check the info. from the beginning computer website to verify the email, pincode, PSN ID, month, day, year, and drivers license. If you want it bad enough the annonymity would be gone but nobody could lie then. If a kid clicked on that picture the information listed above would have to already be set up in advance for any sexual pictures, video, and/or products to be shown. I think if they did it this way there would be no problems. I know you guys are going to cry fowl because they would know who is viewing what but this is the only way I see that no kids under the age of 18 would see porno pictures, video, and/or adult products on a FAMILY ORIENTATED GAME SYSTEM!

Funny how it is the sexually repressed society's/countries that have such an issue with stuff like this. Especially when they are also the one's with all the problems. The rest of the world see it for what it is, they either enjoy it or leave it, getting on with their lives unaffected.

People F**K, and enjoy do so, get over it! The only people who are exploited are the mugs that pay for the stuff.

Limited...I agree your way is quicker but this is to stop kids that don't go on the internet and search for porn everyday. I know anybody can go on the internet and find PORN very easy but this is for the people that are younger in age and have parents that are trying to stop there kids from getting into trouble. This is also here to stop the people from trying to LIE! I know it would be a pain in the ass but at the same time the NEWS wouldn't be able to go after Sony and call them bad people for soliciting PORN on the PS3. The people in America(SEXUALLY)are nothing like the people in Japan. I am not being racist either by that last comment so don't go and get offended. Japan is more liberal about sex then the USA!

Sony makes enough money and should turn this down immediately. Some porn is just filthy garbage any way. If they go through with it maybe they'll go for something that may be found on the playboy channel.

Hell no. We play a Playstation to play decent games, not watch ponorgraphy. I purchased a PS3 because I'd rather virtue in gaming than indulge in sex. I'd rather play games than play with my penis. I'd rather rabble rabble derker dur blah blur...[rant end - you get the point].

Also, If I were to treat a person in real life how people treat eachother in pornographic movies, I'd rather stab my own face. So why the f**k watch it? Too bad pornography has practically distorted the moral views of men.

Sony would definitely limit themselves if they put this on. Sure a lot of adults use the playstation, but a lot of parents that are thinking about buying one for their kids will not buy it now. Sure you can lock it, sure you can have an age verification, but the fact that there is a possibility that someones child might accidently stumble onto porn would be enough to stop parents from supporting the system. We all see the PS3 as an entertainment unit, but anyone who is thinking of buying one for their children, still only see it as a gaming console..and porn shouldn't be on it.

For me? it's an option I wouldn't use, but I'm sure some people would.

Yea but in the case of porn, they are exploiting the act of creating life in order to make a profit. There's no intention to create life so your argument doesn't hold water. It's cheap thrills and petty one night stands that it's promoting. Porn teaches young males to look at woman as objects not people.

Jawknee, I know we've gone round on this topic before on this site. I get irked by all this because I see a double standard when it comes to violence. I find porn no more morally right or wrong than violence. The reason I draw the contrast I do is to show that there is such a huge double standard, not to promote porn.

Clearly there is a difference between titillation and porn as well, but that's not really the point here. I can't sit here and agree with people saying porn is evil and at the same time know that the same people have no problems with all the violence in our entertainment. Objectively I see nothing more or less exploitative about soft porn compared to your average R-rated horror/thriller/torture porn flick. Yet one is tolerated, and in many cases get's a PG-13 instead of the well earned R rating it should.

I'm not in favor of exploiting anyone, or demeaning anyone or objectifying any one. Whether they are objectified as a sex object or a helpless victim of unspeakable violence.

@tesProcreation is clearly not what porn is about, but is also clearly part of sex. Precisely. If we're comparing a porn flick against one of the recent spate of torture porn movies. Which is - in all honesty - more offensive on it's merits? Which exploits people (whether the audience or the actors) more? It's a hard distinction isn't it?

That's the double standard I'm getting at. We tolerate one, and are completely intolerant of the other. And yet, of the two, I think it's at very least arguable that porn is less harmful.Last edited by TheHighlander on 9/8/2009 5:51:22 PM

HighlanderIt's the extreme depravity of the hardcore porn that makes most people frown at the idea. I have no problem with people watching softcore porn if that's what they want to do. I don't purchase the stuff myself and because of the hardcore stuff possibly slipping through, I would stop all future purchases ( et. games ) from the psn in protest.Last edited by tes37 on 9/8/2009 6:31:36 PM

@tesI bet that there are a whole lot of people that would never visit PSN again if any porn arrived there. To be honest, I'd probably be one of them. I'm personally against the idea of bringing porn to the PSN. Quite apart from anything else, the web browser gives full access to all the depravity that the net has to offer already.

As for porn on the Net, perhaps you'll agree that one of the worst aspects of the Net is the fact that virtually any search can lead to porn. Possibly worse than that is that it (the porn) is *all* there. No filters, no sorting, no top shelf, no plain cover, no obscenity filter, no legality filter. It's all there from the topless models of the Sun newspaper, to the sleaziest hard core filth imaginable. It's actually harder to find pictures of clothed or semi-naked models than it is to find pictures of fully nude women doing things that cannot be described here.

In that context, I do not want the PSN to be a channel for porn at all. I fear that if that did happen, it would simply be the thin end of the wedge and ultimately the PSN would be swamped, just as the Internet has been. PSN would be abandoned very quickly if that happened.

i understand your point high, and its well taken, i just think context matters in these issues, whether it be violence or sex. Example, behaving violently to hurt other just to hurt others is depraved, having to engage in violence in a fight against evil or to help those who are oppressed is noble.

Same with sex, showing a man dominate a woman like shes some type of object is depraved. Showing two loving adults consent to a marriage or close relationship, coming together because of love is healthy.

I can understand why you see a double standard, i think its their too. i just think context is key. People are free to do as they please. From a business standpoint i think this would be a mad move for Sony to make. They would indeed hurt their image with average non porn consuming consumers.

On the one hand, Sony has made a virtue of the PSN being an open network, which means they are keeping the content at arms length. On the other hand, Sony does not want to be in the business of selling porn. There is a world of difference between the things that can be done through the PS3s web browser and things that are offered through PSN. If it's offered through PSN it's sold by Sony. Sony isn't going to sell porn.

If A media company with non-porn media were to sell a media viewer through PSN, and happened to offer -via their media player application a pay per view porn feed that was separate from PSN, that is different. That is no different to offering smut through the browser.

Either way, if Sony set the default content restriction on the PS3 to the equivalent of 'R' rated, and made sure that any such media application obeyed the parental control settings. Well, then I could see Sony being willing to allow a media company to sell a player through the PSN. In that situation any adult content would be sold by the media company, not Sony, and would require the user to configure the parental settings accordingly.

Still, I don't see that happening either. But, since the PS3 and PSN are supposed to be open, Sony cannot control all the content on the PS3. The web browser proves that point. However, Sony can and will control the content on PSN.

Porn does not teach men to view women as sex objects anymore than Leave it to Beaver brainwashed women into believing their place was in the kitchen. You're walking a thin line when you try to use that argument, how is that any different than the Satan spawn Mr. Thompson trying to get rid of violent games due to their influence on teenagers.

I will say like anything else an addiction can form and Porn can be misused but so can a snickers bar.

I'm on the fence with this but only because I'm worried what it would mean for Sony's image. On the one hand, it sounds like a good business move. On the other, their competition could play this to their advantage. Me though, I won't complain, but I know the majority of conservative America will play this down all day. Still, I think we should want this as gamers to shed a new skin of maturity and promote a stronger image. We can't do that if we allow the general media to pass ideas off like this as bad, just because they believe video games are for kids. Would you honestly rather them continue to hold video games responsible for school shootings? My bet is those kids would have benefited from some porn by beating their stress off.

If Sony handles it correctly, it would be good. For instance, they would definitely need some age verification and what not. They can do it, I'm sure.

@JawkneeYou say porn teaches young men to objectify women? Absurd. Chances are all of us here have seen some porn on Skinamax as teens or young adults. You're saying we can't be gentleman now for enjoying the act of sex or watching it? This is probably too much information but, I had an ex-girlfriend I watched porn with a couple times. Outside of the bedroom, I was a gentleman to her. So how does porn teach us to be mindless slobs again?

Kreate you beat me to it. "It only does EVERYTHING!!!" I agree with Highlander though about sex and violence being a double standard. I would say more on topic but pretty much everything has already been said.

O DEAR GOD!thats the last thing i need on my ps3.if there is 1 thing i have learnt its porn= viruses galore!and as far as i know the PS3 has no anti virus protection, god it would get eaten alive.sony please remember 1 thing.the ps3 is a GAMES console, meaning it is bought and used to play GAMES.if i want porn theres my laptop with proper security.plus what are my friends parents going to think when i come over to play some games, and they see Debbie does Dallas on my HDD?

i thought this is what the sexbox is for?i give them 2 weeks on the shelf before M$ sues them for copyright.even though they have stolen so many ideas of other companies theres not enough paper in the world to document it.