Looks like UCLA is not going to help us out. Its either the Fiesta Bowl or backing our way into the BCS Title game which is still a possibility if Notre Dame loses. We'd just have to jump Florida who was barely ahead of us in the BCS. I'm thinking voters would help us out to avoid another SEC vs SEC matchup.

JSeahawks wrote:Looks like UCLA is not going to help us out. Its either the Fiesta Bowl or backing our way into the BCS Title game which is still a possibility if Notre Dame loses. We'd just have to jump Florida who was barely ahead of us in the BCS. I'm thinking voters would help us out to avoid another SEC vs SEC matchup.

Otherwise its probably Oregon vs Kansas State in the Fiesta Bowl.

I'm thinking you're wrong. Florida beat 3 top 10 teams. The Zero's beat just that, zero top 10 teams. Might as well just root for Notre Dame or it will be a guaranteed SEC National Champion.

JSeahawks wrote:Looks like UCLA is not going to help us out. Its either the Fiesta Bowl or backing our way into the BCS Title game which is still a possibility if Notre Dame loses. We'd just have to jump Florida who was barely ahead of us in the BCS. I'm thinking voters would help us out to avoid another SEC vs SEC matchup.

Otherwise its probably Oregon vs Kansas State in the Fiesta Bowl.

I'm thinking you're wrong. Florida beat 3 top 10 teams. The Zero's beat just that, zero top 10 teams. Might as well just root for Notre Dame or it will be a guaranteed SEC National Champion.

We'll see. Oregon was already ahead in the Human polls. Florida was BARELY ahead in the BCS. If USC beats Notre Dame that strenghtens Oregon's computer score. If Stanford wins today and next week that strenghtens Oregon's computer score. if Georgia loses to Alabama next week that hurts Florida's computer score. Plus, if the human voters put Notre Dame inbetween the Ducks and Gators that is HUGE in the Ducks favor.

It will be very very close. The humans already know that oregon is the better team, it will just depend on the computers. And of course none of this matters if Notre Dame wins.

Personally, i dont think either of them should be there as I dont believe you should be able to play for the national title if you didnt win yoru league, but it is what it is.

JSeahawks wrote:We'll see. Oregon was already ahead in the Human polls. Florida was BARELY ahead in the BCS. If USC beats Notre Dame that strenghtens Oregon's computer score. If Stanford wins today and next week that strenghtens Oregon's computer score. if Georgia loses to Alabama next week that hurts Florida's computer score. Plus, if the human voters put Notre Dame inbetween the Ducks and Gators that is HUGE in the Ducks favor.

It will be very very close. The humans already know that oregon is the better team, it will just depend on the computers. And of course none of this matters if Notre Dame wins.

Personally, i dont think either of them should be there as I dont believe you should be able to play for the national title if you didnt win yoru league, but it is what it is.

Sure would be nice to have a playoff.

That would be a joke if the Zero's made it in over Florida considering Floridas resume. The SEC welcomes a playoff. That would give us 2 teams instead of 1 to contend for the National Championship.

JSeahawks wrote:We'll see. Oregon was already ahead in the Human polls. Florida was BARELY ahead in the BCS. If USC beats Notre Dame that strenghtens Oregon's computer score. If Stanford wins today and next week that strenghtens Oregon's computer score. if Georgia loses to Alabama next week that hurts Florida's computer score. Plus, if the human voters put Notre Dame inbetween the Ducks and Gators that is HUGE in the Ducks favor.

It will be very very close. The humans already know that oregon is the better team, it will just depend on the computers. And of course none of this matters if Notre Dame wins.

Personally, i dont think either of them should be there as I dont believe you should be able to play for the national title if you didnt win yoru league, but it is what it is.

Sure would be nice to have a playoff.

That would be a joke if the Zero's made it in over Florida considering Floridas resume. The SEC welcomes a playoff. That would give us 2 teams instead of 1 to contend for the National Championship.

True that. That last second win against Louisiana high school was pretty impressive.

Change of subject because Oregons non conference is so brutal lol. Spurrier just went for it on 4th and 11 with a 3 point lead. I'm starting to think he's gone old guy crazy. He's lucky he got bailed out with a pass interference.

SEC FAN wrote:Change of subject because Oregons non conference is so brutal lol. Spurrier just went for it on 4th and 11. I'm starting to think he's gone old guy crazy. He's lucky he got bailed out with a pass interference.

Actually Fresno State and Arkansas State are both 8-3, first place in their respective conferences and going to bowl games. I'm not saying they're Stanford or anything, but they're not exactly cupcakes.

I've always like Spurrier. He's entertaining and a bit crazy for sure.

SEC FAN wrote:Geez. If Notre Dame does win it all they will be the worst National Champions I've ever seen. And the Heisman may be the worst player I've ever seen win it. Just sayin.

Agree with you on both counts. Although I dont think there's any way that Notre Dame beats Alabama or Georgia. I dont think they even score on either.

The Heisman is tough this year. To be completely honest I dont think there's anybody that deserves it. I think Manziel will probably win it and its all based off the hype from one game which is kind of ridiculous. (although he has been good all season). If I had a vote i'd probably give it to Marqise Lee. Even though his team kind of sucks I think he's the best player in the country by a wide margin.

SEC FAN wrote:I feel terrible for Lattimore. But I wouldn't take him in the top 2 rounds. He'll probably prove me wrong though like Maurice Clarrett and Frank Gore. Lol.

I mean Lattimore is awesome. I seen him make some short yardage runs that nobody in the country would make but as a GM, too much baggage.

Agree'd again. Stop making me agree with you, i feel dirty. I always hate to see college kids get signifigant injuries. From everything i've heard he's a great kid to go along with a great football player too.

Corrected myself. Said Clarrett, meant McGahee. Lattimore is great. But thats 2 busted knees. I don't even know who to root for after all your scenarios for Oregon vs. Florida vs. Notre Dame. You made some good points. Just sayin. If the AP and Coaches give Oregon the nod it makes sense that will be bad for Florida. I just know strength of schedule has to be in Floridas favor after today.

JSeahawks wrote:True that. That last second win against Louisiana high school was pretty impressive.

I'm rooting for Oregon to somehow get in, but it's best not to throw bricks from a glass house J.

At least the Ducks dominated the teams they were supposed to dominate. Sure would love to have that STanford game back. Although Stanford is very very good with their new QB. I think they'd be the number 1 team in the nation if that kid would have played against UW and ND.

SEC FAN wrote:Geez. If Notre Dame does win it all they will be the worst National Champions I've ever seen. And the Heisman may be the worst player I've ever seen win it. Just sayin.

Agree with you on both counts. Although I dont think there's any way that Notre Dame beats Alabama or Georgia. I dont think they even score on either.

The Heisman is tough this year. To be completely honest I dont think there's anybody that deserves it. I think Manziel will probably win it and its all based off the hype from one game which is kind of ridiculous. (although he has been good all season). If I had a vote i'd probably give it to Marqise Lee. Even though his team kind of sucks I think he's the best player in the country by a wide margin.

they showed the stat that Manziel has more yards than tebow and newton did when they won it, don't see how he doesnt deserve it.Lee is having a great year he deserves it, what more do you want from these guys. and of course my biased vote would go for Teo.

JSeahawks wrote:Agree with you on both counts. Although I dont think there's any way that Notre Dame beats Alabama or Georgia. I dont think they even score on either.

The Heisman is tough this year. To be completely honest I dont think there's anybody that deserves it. I think Manziel will probably win it and its all based off the hype from one game which is kind of ridiculous. (although he has been good all season). If I had a vote i'd probably give it to Marqise Lee. Even though his team kind of sucks I think he's the best player in the country by a wide margin.

they showed the stat that Manziel has more yards than tebow and newton did when they won it, don't see how he doesnt deserve it.Lee is having a great year he deserves it, what more do you want from these guys. and of course my biased vote would go for Teo.

I'm just one of those old grouchy guys that dont think freshman should win it. And to be honest I think Manziels yards are a lot different then Tebow's and Newtons. Watching Manziel play sometimes i think he's running and showboating to the detriment of his team. Taking away yards and plays from his teammates. Watching Newton and Tebow it was all about willing their teams to win. I do expect Manziel to win it, he's just not my personal preference. And like i said, I think Marquise Lee is the best player in the country.

GoldenIsThyTate wrote:they showed the stat that Manziel has more yards than tebow and newton did when they won it, don't see how he doesnt deserve it.Lee is having a great year he deserves it, what more do you want from these guys. and of course my biased vote would go for Teo.

I like Teo, that would be my vote. I like the freshman, I really do. I was rooting for him against Alabama. The difference between him and Tebow and Newton is wins. Just like I see Marquis Lee(USC) and Clowney(South Carolina). They are all good players but Heisman is ussually for a 1 loss team or less. I'm not saying thats right but thats been the way voters have done it for years.

On paper its an Alabama blow out and probably a shut out. But Notre Dame really does seem to have the Luck of the Irish, as stupid as that sounds, so who knows. Should have lost both STanford and Pittsburgh if not for horrible officiating mistakes that directly changed the outcome of the games. Got USC with their backup QB. And tehy're in the game, so they've got a punchers chance.

GoldenIsThyTate wrote:ok, ok. I also cringe a little at a freshman winning it. anyway, were going to the ship!!!!

Enjoy being spanked by Alabama.

i know right, no point in even playing the game, just crown em

Alabama is beatable and against a well coached team like like Notre Dame it will be a tough go. Notre Dame has beat some good teams and I expect them to beat the Tide. Golston and Riddick are the real deal and will be a tough match up.

I disagree that it's even a bad match up on paper, Brian Kelly took a talented team and showed them how to win.

GoldenIsThyTate wrote:i know right, no point in even playing the game, just crown em

I'm happy to do it now if you are.

They have systematically destroyed every single team they've faced that compares favourably to Notre Dame. Giving Nick Saban over a month to prepare for the game almost makes this unfair. This isn't Pittsburgh or USC, who are going to happily roll over and have their tummies tickled. They don't rely on Landry Jones for an offense. This is the real deal. And you don't have Johnny Manziel playing batshit crazy football.

And while I want to believe a likeable Georgia team can cause the upset, I just can't see it. But even then, I'd expect Georgia to handle Notre Dame.