Chance for first glance at Turkish ACV-SW

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Being shown for the first time in public anywhere in the world is the Turkish FNSS Savunma ...

Being shown for the first time in public anywhere in the world is the Turkish FNSS Savunma Sistemleri ACV-SW (Outdoor B8, Turkish Pavilion) fitted with the complete turret of the Russian BMP-3 infantry combat vehicle (ICV) that is used in significant numbers in the Middle East.

So far, some 2,500 of the standard FNSS Armoured Combat Vehicle (ACV) have been built for the Turkish Land Forces Command and an increasing number of export customers, including one in the Gulf.

The latest generation Armoured Combat Vehicle â€“ Stretched (ACV-S) has an additional road wheel either side to give the vehicle greater internal volume and payload. When fitted with the BMP-3 weapon system, the combination is called the ACV-SW IFV with BMP-3 turret. In addition to the crew of three â€“ commander, gunner and driver â€“ a total of seven infantry can be carried, all of whom can rapidly dismount via the power-operated ramp at the rear.

The BMP-3 turret is armed with a 100mm gun that as well as firing conventional natures of ammunition, can also fire a laser-guided projectile out to a maximum range of 5,000m. In addition, it has a 30mm cannon and 7.62mm machine gun mounted co-axial.

FNSS has completed several pre-production versions of the ACV-S that have been fitted with various weapon systems for different roles. For example, a two-person 25mm cannon turret fitted with a standard ring mount for a 12.7mm M2 machine gun, with the vehicle carrying anti-tank missile teams.

All production ACV and first models of the ACV-S are fitted with a standard Detroit diesel engine coupled to an Allison X200 transmission. Other power packs are now being offered, including a Deutz diesel engine coupled to an Allison X200 transmission, or the X300 which is capable of being coupled to more powerful engines.

Turkish company Roketsan is showing for the first time at IDEX a concept demonstrator of a 107mm (24-round) rocket launcher system mounted on the rear of an AM General High Mobility Multi-Purpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV) chassis. The concept demonstrator being shown at IDEX was developed in response to a specific customer requirement in the Middle East.

In the cab of the vehicle would be the computerised fire control system coupled to an inertial navigation system to rapidly lay the rocket launcher onto the target within one minute of coming to a halt.

It is envisaged that no chassis stabiliser would be required at the rear of the HMMWV since the computer would ensure that rockets are launched at the correct sequence to avoid over-stressing the chassis.

Once fired, the system would redeploy to a reloading area where new composite pods each of 12 rockets would be rapidly reloaded using a crane.

Currently two types of spin stabilised rockets can be fired â€“ TR-107 high explosive and TRB-107 steel ball â€“ which have a maximum range of more than 11,000m. These are manufactured by Roketsan for the home and export markets.

One of the few new wheeled armoured vehicles being shown for the first time at IDEX is the Turkish FNSS Savunma Sistemleri Pars (Turkish for Leopard) in its 8x8 configuration. This is powered by a 390kW Deutz diesel coupled to a fully automatic transmission and two-speed transfer case.

Pars uses technology co-developed with US-based General Purpose Vehicles (GPV), with the example on show at IDEX being integrated in Turkey. In addition to being developed to meet the projected operational requirements of the Turkish Land Forces Command, Pars is also being aimed at the export market.

Using the same basic automotive components, a complete family of 4x4, 6x6, 8x8 and 10x10 vehicles can be developed. These have a removable roof so that not only can different weapon systems be installed, but they also offer a higher roofline for greater internal volume, for example for use as a command post or ambulance.

There is considerable flexibility in the design of the Pars. One 8x8 version can be supplied which is fully transportable in a C-130 transport, while a wider version has greater internal volume. The all welded steel hull provides protection against 7.62mm armour-piercing attack with a higher level of protection available if required.

Go turks go... It would be crazy for turks to produce 2,ooo of these ACV-SW?.. then we won't need any tanks lol... theres a tank for you rgiht there.. 100mm gunn and can cary 7 troops....

i bet by 2010 turkey will upgrade almost 2,000 of bmp vehicles from many countries around the world...

- if we feel genorous, maybe we will upgrade 500 greek bmp-1 vehicles to ACV-SW? ..

It seems that you don't know much of armored vehicles. The ACV series is only a combat vehicle to support infantry. Not to engage tanks. It is possible to defeat tanks but only in long range engagement is it safe because of it's light armor. The best weapon to defeat a tank is simply another tank.

If Turkey is now also producing the ACV-SW for the Turkish Army, then the Turkish army is not doing well. Because the BMP-3 turret has Russian type weapons and lacks NATO standardization.

The ACV-SW is intended for the export market like the middle east or North Africa, Caucassus and Central Asia who uses many decades Soviet built weapons.

For the Western market, NATO countries or allies, the standard versions are recommended. The 25mm ATK Bushmaster or the 30mm ATK Bushmaster II is NATO compliant and is easy to combine with other NATO standard 25mm - 30mm ammo.

The ACV-S series have a wide variety of armaments available. From 7,62mm to 100mm low pressure gun and SP mortar vehicles and missile carriers. Turkey is now working to design it's indegenous MBT for the replacement of it's aging M48 fleet. The Leopard-1 and M60 series will be upgraded to the Volkan and Sabra respectively. Plus the procurement of 298 Ex-German army surplus Leopard-2A4 that will join Turkish army in the mid 2006. Then we will have modern tanks in our inventory.