Are you saying that you have no mythbackend machines on your LAN? Then what are you setting up MythTV to view?

I have one machine with mythbackend set up and running. I have several other machines with mythtv installed, but never run mythbackend on those, only mythfrontend.

But then again, you can't run mythfrontend without a mathbackend accessible on the network. Setting up a mythbackend requires some sort of "capture capability". Note that I say "capability" instead of "card" or "device", because it is possible to use a file. Then whenever you record, you just get the contents of that file. I've never done this myself, but I remember seeing the discussion about it either on the mailing list or on the wiki.

If you're not going to record, just view, aren't there simpler ways to do so than MythTV?
I've always found MythTV to be rather poor with DVDs. Just last week it failed to play "Tremors", so I exited and used VLC._________________.sigs waste space and bandwidth

I have one machine with mythbackend set up and running. I have several other machines with mythtv installed, but never run mythbackend on those, only mythfrontend.

why would one need two machines to run a htpc?

depontius wrote:

But then again, you can't run mythfrontend without a mathbackend accessible on the network. Setting up a mythbackend requires some sort of "capture capability". Note that I say "capability" instead of "card" or "device", because it is possible to use a file. Then whenever you record, you just get the contents of that file. I've never done this myself, but I remember seeing the discussion about it either on the mailing list or on the wiki.

so I need a capture card to use it? if so, xbmc should suit me, right?
the only reason that I've went with MythTV is because I've understood that it supports vaapi better than xbmc.

depontius wrote:

If you're not going to record, just view, aren't there simpler ways to do so than MythTV?
I've always found MythTV to be rather poor with DVDs. Just last week it failed to play "Tremors", so I exited and used VLC.

as I'm not the only one that is going to use it, I'd prefer a nice gui for it._________________Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein
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I have one machine with mythbackend set up and running. I have several other machines with mythtv installed, but never run mythbackend on those, only mythfrontend.

why would one need two machines to run a htpc?

In my case, I have one machine where all of the recording is done, running mythbackend. I also sometimes run mythfrontend on it, for the "one machine solution". But I have several other machines in the house that can run mythfrontend, including a dedicated "appliance" machine in the TV stand. Part of this "architecture" is happenstance, as I began playing with MythTV on the machine that is now the backend, with one el-cheapo PCI capture card, later replace by a pair of HVR-1600s, later replaced by a networked HDHomeRun Prime. The dedicated "MythTV appliance" came sometime during the interim, and I never thought to move mythbackend to it. Nor do I run it 24x7. At this point I'm re-evaluating my home server strategy, and plan to move my mythbackend down to the hopefully-soon-to-be-constructed new server closet. My current servers, in the old server closet, don't have the brawn to handle MythTV.

DaggyStyle wrote:

depontius wrote:

But then again, you can't run mythfrontend without a mathbackend accessible on the network. Setting up a mythbackend requires some sort of "capture capability". Note that I say "capability" instead of "card" or "device", because it is possible to use a file. Then whenever you record, you just get the contents of that file. I've never done this myself, but I remember seeing the discussion about it either on the mailing list or on the wiki.

so I need a capture card to use it? if so, xbmc should suit me, right?
the only reason that I've went with MythTV is because I've understood that it supports vaapi better than xbmc.

I've got an nVidia 8400GS (gen2) card, so I'm running vdpau, which so far is generally better supported than vaapi, though the latter is "intellectually better."

DaggyStyle wrote:

depontius wrote:

If you're not going to record, just view, aren't there simpler ways to do so than MythTV?
I've always found MythTV to be rather poor with DVDs. Just last week it failed to play "Tremors", so I exited and used VLC.

as I'm not the only one that is going to use it, I'd prefer a nice gui for it.

So you're basically after an appliance, then. I think I'd go for xbmc in that case, you're just jumping through too many hoops to use a minor part of MythTV. As mentioned, the DVD player in MythTV just isn't that good, in our experience - poor WAF._________________.sigs waste space and bandwidth

I have one machine with mythbackend set up and running. I have several other machines with mythtv installed, but never run mythbackend on those, only mythfrontend.

why would one need two machines to run a htpc?

In my case, I have one machine where all of the recording is done, running mythbackend. I also sometimes run mythfrontend on it, for the "one machine solution". But I have several other machines in the house that can run mythfrontend, including a dedicated "appliance" machine in the TV stand. Part of this "architecture" is happenstance, as I began playing with MythTV on the machine that is now the backend, with one el-cheapo PCI capture card, later replace by a pair of HVR-1600s, later replaced by a networked HDHomeRun Prime. The dedicated "MythTV appliance" came sometime during the interim, and I never thought to move mythbackend to it. Nor do I run it 24x7. At this point I'm re-evaluating my home server strategy, and plan to move my mythbackend down to the hopefully-soon-to-be-constructed new server closet. My current servers, in the old server closet, don't have the brawn to handle MythTV.

DaggyStyle wrote:

depontius wrote:

But then again, you can't run mythfrontend without a mathbackend accessible on the network. Setting up a mythbackend requires some sort of "capture capability". Note that I say "capability" instead of "card" or "device", because it is possible to use a file. Then whenever you record, you just get the contents of that file. I've never done this myself, but I remember seeing the discussion about it either on the mailing list or on the wiki.

so I need a capture card to use it? if so, xbmc should suit me, right?
the only reason that I've went with MythTV is because I've understood that it supports vaapi better than xbmc.

I've got an nVidia 8400GS (gen2) card, so I'm running vdpau, which so far is generally better supported than vaapi, though the latter is "intellectually better."

DaggyStyle wrote:

depontius wrote:

If you're not going to record, just view, aren't there simpler ways to do so than MythTV?
I've always found MythTV to be rather poor with DVDs. Just last week it failed to play "Tremors", so I exited and used VLC.

as I'm not the only one that is going to use it, I'd prefer a nice gui for it.

So you're basically after an appliance, then. I think I'd go for xbmc in that case, you're just jumping through too many hoops to use a minor part of MythTV. As mentioned, the DVD player in MythTV just isn't that good, in our experience - poor WAF.

sure, vdpau is better, especially when you have an nvidia gpu but alas, I have two atis which vdpau isn't that good and I need them and my intel igp is not in use so I've thought of using it, I'll emerge xbmc then, thanks._________________Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein
ProjectFootball

So you're basically after an appliance, then. I think I'd go for xbmc in that case, you're just jumping through too many hoops to use a minor part of MythTV. As mentioned, the DVD player in MythTV just isn't that good, in our experience - poor WAF.

sure, vdpau is better, especially when you have an nvidia gpu but alas, I have two atis which vdpau isn't that good and I need them and my intel igp is not in use so I've thought of using it, I'll emerge xbmc then, thanks.[/quote]

Food for thought... I just took a look at Newegg...
nVidia chipset, 1 HDMI, 1 DVI, 1 VGA, fanless - sort by price. One card under $30. Eleven under $35... You don't need a gaming card for video, just vdpau, and they support that pretty much across all of the newer chipset._________________.sigs waste space and bandwidth

So you're basically after an appliance, then. I think I'd go for xbmc in that case, you're just jumping through too many hoops to use a minor part of MythTV. As mentioned, the DVD player in MythTV just isn't that good, in our experience - poor WAF.

sure, vdpau is better, especially when you have an nvidia gpu but alas, I have two atis which vdpau isn't that good and I need them and my intel igp is not in use so I've thought of using it, I'll emerge xbmc then, thanks.

Food for thought... I just took a look at Newegg...
nVidia chipset, 1 HDMI, 1 DVI, 1 VGA, fanless - sort by price. One card under $30. Eleven under $35... You don't need a gaming card for video, just vdpau, and they support that pretty much across all of the newer chipset.[/quote]

as said before, ran out of slots on the mb, they are already in use be 2 ati gpus, intel igp are crap but they so support vaapi pretty good.
also where I live, hw is expensive and I cannot sell that to the wife._________________Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein
ProjectFootball