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Topic: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS (Read 41307 times)

Maybe I have missed something here!!!!But I have been led to believe that you must pratice safe sex even +/+. You can still get a worse virus than what you currently. There are so many strains out there I would be more scared than before?

You can still get a worse virus than what you currently. There are so many strains out there I would be more scared than before?

This is more myth than reality and Matty the Damned says "Feh!" to it.

It's possible but extremely unlikely. In all the world the total number of poz-bodz who've acquired a nastier resistant "strain" of Iris the Virus through bareback fucking number less than two dozen. As someone noted earlier, you're more likely to manufacture your own resistant strain somewhere than catch one from someone somewhere along the line.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Not to rain on your, um, parade, but Poz On Poz unprotected is just as dangerous because of the risk of contracting med-resistant strains or more virulent strains of the disease. You may not be that sick now, but you sure don't want it to get worse.

And don't want to preach, but you are intending this in a monogamous setting, right?

I mean, as the one guy said, it didn't stop him before, but personally I wouldn't think it was worth the risk to either of you.

Just my $.02 worth.

(Sorry - should have read all the other posts)

And Matty, regardless of how low the chances are purported to be, isn't that a lot like playing Russian Roulette?

Agreed. Every time I see this thread title, I get ever so gently turned on just for a second. And I don't think any discussion of BB Sex with Poz Lads would be complete without at least a mention of Lil' Steve's new avatar.

Personally, if both of us have low VL and on meds, I don't really see the problem. I BBed with a guy that was on the same meds as me...he is undetectable..I was at 510...don't see how we could harm each other.

And Matty, regardless of how low the chances are purported to be, isn't that a lot like playing Russian Roulette?

I can understand why people feel this way, but things aren't this simple. We've discussed this at length many times and we always end up back at the same place. Superinfection doesn't warrant the fuss that's made over it. Contracting an additional, nastier strain from unprotected sex is vanishingly rare.

When we make superinfection the focus of the bareback debate we ignore the far greater risk (I'm talking greater by orders of magnitude here) of contracting another STD.

As has been noted previously STD's like syphilis and hepatitis B are a real problem especially for HIV positive people.

I was diagnosed in March 2006 after ending up in hospital with PCP and Cytomegalovirus and lucky to be here.

At every appointment my consultant raises the issue of contracting a second strain of HIV and in particular one that is drug resistent. I never went BB and probably still wouldn't. I just don't have sex now. Guess I'm just paranoid that if there's anything out there, I'm going to catch it.

Would this be with multiple partners or when in a monogamous relationship? If the risks are known and considered worth taking, then then the decision has to be yours and your partners.

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I am not in this world to live up to other people's expectations, nor do I feel that the world must live up to mine

Can't help but be curious as to how you came by the bug if you "never went BB". You don't have to answer that, of course, but it does beg the question.

Up until 1996 I was working as a social worker mainly with drug users. I was assaulted by a client known to be HIV positive. In those days there was no HIV post-exposure prophylaxis available. I also remember a condom splitting as well.

I still work with this man's son as both his parents are now dead. I don't spend any time thinking about how I got this virus. I don't blame anyone. I have it and I cant get rid of it. I need to use all my energy to live with it and get to tomorrow.

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I am not in this world to live up to other people's expectations, nor do I feel that the world must live up to mine

Up until 1996 I was working as a social worker mainly with drug users. I was assaulted by a client known to be HIV positive. In those days there was no HIV post-exposure prophylaxis available. I also remember a condom splitting as well.

I still work with this man's son as both his parents are now dead. I don't spend any time thinking about how I got this virus. I don't blame anyone. I have it and I cant get rid of it. I need to use all my energy to live with it and get to tomorrow.

I'm sorry to hear of your awful experiences, but am glad of your attitude to not focusing on assigning blame. Welcome to the boards.

you all make my day. the last time i had great sex was march 31 2007 --> which was most likely the night hiv entered and stayed in my body. when i look back to that night i am pissed i didnt use a condom and pissed that i wasnt able to have sex with jose & miguel again (and again). why does the hottest sex of my life have to be wrought with hiv? hmm,

bb with poz lads ,have done it once since turning. for me, sex w/ condoms and sex w/o condoms feels the same (topping or bottoming). but, then again, many here can attest to the difference. the biggest change was in my head (the big one) when having unprotected sex.

I gotta say I have held off on BB sex for the fear of getting other STDs... the idea of having multiple "social diseases" within my body just doesn't sound very attractive. But for how long I really don't know..

As for which one feels better, as a bottom I have come to the conclusion that the "alleged" satisfaction from BB sex is more psychological than physical. I did top w/o the rubber but it was years ago and it sent me on my way the biggest panic attack I ever had pre-diagnosis. I can't recall how it felt as I did it, er, under the influence. How I ended up being a BB bottom slut is still something I am trying to sort out... .. or not.. as I have already hit the jackpot...

I'll bareback with anyone who's up for it. I tell them the score and then it's their choice. As for picking up another STD myself - syphillis is about the only one I've not had, and I'm really not concerned about the possibility of superinfection.

edited to add: thanks for the compliments Timmy - we'll shag one day, don't worry about that

Haha.. it does.. just like bad disco dancing and mirror balls. Did most of the British royalty have it?

I'm a bad disco dancer, and proud of it. How I managed to escape it always amazed me. My boyfriend had it for a substantial amount of time, and despite never using condoms I never did pick it up. Says a lot for how much sex we were having at the time.

Interesting, I'll say. But being the Queen that I am, I prefer the top to being on the bottom. I guess I just like being in control... I have never been with another poz person or at least not to my knowledge. If I had the chance to, I think I would have to ask if the person has anything else I need to be concerned about. I don't need anything else that I can't get rid of. I am already dealing with this virus, being diabetic, and partially deaf, things that will be with me the rest of my life. I don't need anything else that wants to take up a permanent residence in my body.

I always perfer to bb . despite spending time getting to know someone before sex I still feel a Little uneasy and fearfull I may pick up a bug. I worry about hep. C. and herpies, they scare me the most. I live so far out in the woods I only manage to have sex about 2 times in five years. Oh well I guess I can bb if I just wash my hand first.

I gotta say I have held off on BB sex for the fear of getting other STDs... the idea of having multiple "social diseases" within my body just doesn't sound very attractive. But for how long I really don't know..

As for which one feels better, as a bottom I have come to the conclusion that the "alleged" satisfaction from BB sex is more psychological than physical.

You must be my soul mate because you think exactly like me. Too bad I am also a slutty bottom now, otherwise we should BB with each other.

You must be my soul mate because you think exactly like me. Too bad I am also a slutty bottom now, otherwise we should BB with each other.

I am just stating the obvious Alive.. after I wrote this, I was thinking, like, how stupid, of course sex is "psychological" too. Although having someone cumming inside you does not provide any physical sensation, it did give me a "high". More like a conditioned fetish. And the point about not wanting to get multiple STDs, the emphasis is I don't know for how much longer this fear will hold me back from having BB sex...

I joke around allot ..but I'm like komnaes , Fear of getting an std and a little maturity holds me back from just picking some stranger up just for sex . I just don't feel the urge to be self destructive as I used to be.

Although having someone cumming inside you does not provide any physical sensation, it did give me a "high".

My problem is the guy who fucked me didn't even cum, and he was the only guy who I had BB sex last year, for only 3 (maybe 4) times! That's why I thought I should win lottery but too bad not even a dollar.

My problem is the guy who fucked me didn't even cum, and he was the only guy who I had BB sex last year, for only 3 (maybe 4) times! That's why I thought I should win lottery but too bad not even a dollar.

Haha, keep trying then Alive. As for me I was a total BB slut for a period of over 6 months so it wasn't even close to winning a lottery, it was more than trying to cross a busy 12 lanes highway in LA blindfolded and expecting not to get hit by a car...

I joke around allot ..but I'm like komnaes , Fear of getting an std and a little maturity holds me back from just picking some stranger up just for sex . I just don't feel the urge to be self destructive as I used to be.

I never felt lack of fear, immaturity or a desire to destroy oneself were prerequisites for anonymous sex.

I am only more fearfull of anonymous sex because I don't know someones sexual history and also the fact that when I was having Lott's of anonymous sex I was drinking and drugging allot ...so for me at the time it was self destructive. I know that If I ever have another relationship I will probally bb. again if there are no clear health reason to make it inadvisable.

I also have a problem with bb. with someone I just met even after disclosing my hiv status. To protect the health and well being of someone that may be rushing into something in the heat of the moment.I once had bb. sex with a guy who I told up front my hiv status, and later he told me that he only assumed he was positive and now had regrets and worry over unprotected sex. I felt horrible for him simply because I was 50% culpable of the ramifications of this.

I guess what I trying to say is , for me something as intimate as bb. is better shared with someone special and only after some carefull consideration for the other person and after frank discussion

I completely agree with you on that . The last thing I want is for anyone to think I'm judging them when we are all sharing and having a discussion. I am new to this forum and am trying my best to join in and make myself clearly understood. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to learn and clarify my thoughts

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

And what is wrong with gay guy appreciating a women's body? (yet another thread)

Sharkie

Actually I had never seen one until I was like 24ish. I went to Bangkok for the first time with a group of gay friends and someone stupidly decided to also go see a girlie show; and there they were - pussy smoking, pussy playing ping-pong, pussy eating banana... to put it mildly I was traumatized

Actually I had never seen one until I was like 24ish. I went to Bangkok for the first time with a group of gay friends and someone stupidly decided to also go see a girlie show; and there they were - pussy smoking, pussy playing ping-pong, pussy eating banana... to put it mildly I was traumatized

I think ADD makes it hard for me to really be afraid of future consequences i am so stuck in right now. So um yeah I know all the risks and I only BB and only have slept well had sex with other POZs since i was infected. i sure hope i dont get a super infection, syph etc but in reality i have zero fear about the future till iit comes <no pun intended>. My Dr. redid the genotype once and then I read to get a genotype you need over 1000 viral load so what was the point? I know it's a bad choice to BB. I know with my labs and how well my body contained the intial infection a reinfection with a strain that was different might bring that house of cards down but it doesn't change my behavior. In a way it's insane but it's how I got to here in the first place. I guess it's like being a smoker for me. I know it's not a good choice but I want it soooo bad! The fact I know iis a step on the road to change but i even think about safe sex and I feel like a whiney chiild who is having a toy taken away. A therapist, a Dr, a case worker all talk to me about it and I am like Sam i am. I don't like condoms, I dont like them on the bed, i dont like them on the floor , I dont like them on the kitchen table, I dont like them in a tree I dont like Condoms or green eggs and ham....

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If someone tells you potential consequences of a behavior it doesn't mean they jude you or mit they may just give a shit about you

Actually I was told by a friend that until early 90s when AIDS really started to hit a lot of working girls/boys they would still do sex shows in the raw. A guy would screw a girl until he cummed inside and then she would, er, push it out for everyone to see. Cream pies I think that was how they called them. Now I think condoms are used, and they're surely used in the boys-on-boys shows.

Bangkok is such a crazy place.. which makes me wonder where the hell is Votz.. he's much better in writing abut those sleazy places than I ever can.