The Great Warning ~ Don't be deceived

Well, you say we pray to Mary. And we say we do not pray to Mary. The question is, what could the church do or say in order for you to believe that we do not pray to Mary but pray for intercessions? I suppose we could blot Mary out of the bible and make it forbidden to say her name. Perhaps we should smash any statue of Mary and destroy all pictures of her. You tell Me?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1116491

“Mother of all individuals and peoples, you know all their sufferings and hopes. In your motherly heart you feel all the struggles between good and evil, between light and darkness, that convulse the world: accept the plea which we make in the Holy Spirit directly to your heart, and embrace with the love of the Mother and Handmaid of the Lord those who most await this embrace, and also those whose act of entrustment you too await in a particular way. Take under your motherly protection the whole human family, which with affectionate love we entrust to you, O Mother. May there dawn for everyone the time of peace and freedom, the time of truth, of justice and of hope”.

“O Mother of all men and women, and of all peoples, you who know all their sufferings and their hopes, you who have a mother's awareness of all the struggles between good and evil, between light and darkness, which afflict the modern world, accept the cry which we, moved by the Holy Spirit, address directly to your Heart. Embrace with the love of the Mother and Handmaid of the Lord, this human world of ours, which we entrust and consecrate to you, for we are full of concern for the earthly and eternal destiny of individuals and peoples.

In a special way we entrust and consecrate to you those individuals and nations which particularly need to be thus entrusted and consecrated.

“Behold, as we stand before you, Mother of Christ, before your Immaculate Heart, we desire, together with the whole Church, to unite ourselves with the consecration which, for love of us, your Son made of himself to the Father: ‘For their sake', he said, ‘I consecrate myself that they also may be consecrated in the truth' (Jn 17:19). We wish to unite ourselves with our Redeemer in this his consecration for the world and for the human race, which, in his divine Heart, has the power to obtain pardon and to secure reparation.

The power of this consecrationlasts for all time and embraces all individuals, peoples and nations. It overcomes every evil that the spirit of darkness is able to awaken, and has in fact awakened in our times, in the heart of man and in his history.

How deeply we feel the need for the consecration of humanity and the world—our modern world—in union with Christ himself! For the redeeming work of Christ must be shared in by the world through the Church.

The present Year of the Redemption shows this: the special Jubilee of the whole Church.

Above all creatures, may you be blessed, you, the Handmaid of the Lord, who in the fullest way obeyed the divine call!

Hail to you, who are wholly united to the redeeming consecration of your Son!

Mother of the Church! Enlighten the People of God along the paths of faith, hope, and love! Enlighten especially the peoples whose consecration and entrustment by us you are awaiting. Help us to live in the truth of the consecration of Christ for the entire human family of the modern world.

In entrusting to you, O Mother, the world, all individuals and peoples, we also entrust to you this very consecration of the world, placing it in your motherly Heart.

Immaculate Heart! Help us to conquer the menace of evil, which so easily takes root in the hearts of the people of today, and whose immeasurable effects already weigh down upon our modern world and seem to block the paths towards the future!

From famine and war, deliver us.

From nuclear war, from incalculable self-destruction, from every kind of war, deliver us.

From sins against the life of man from its very beginning, deliver us.

From hatred and from the demeaning of the dignity of the children of God, deliver us.

From every kind of injustice in the life of society, both national and international, deliver us.

From readiness to trample on the commandments of God, deliver us.

From attempts to stifle in human hearts the very truth of God, deliver us.

From the loss of awareness of good and evil, deliver us.

From sins against the Holy Spirit, deliver us, deliver us.

Accept, O Mother of Christ, this cry laden with the sufferings of all individual human beings, laden with the sufferings of whole societies.

Help us with the power of the Holy Spirit to conquer all sin: individual sin and the ‘sin of the world', sin in all its manifestations.

Let there be revealed, once more, in the history of the world the infinite saving power of the Redemption: the power of merciful Love! May it put a stop to evil! May it transform consciences! May your Immaculate Heart reveal for all the light of Hope!”.

your institution could not do or say anything to make me believe otherwise.

Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.

Well, you say we pray to Mary. And we say we do not pray to Mary. The question is, what could the church do or say in order for you to believe that we do not pray to Mary but pray for intercessions? I suppose we could blot Mary out of the bible and make it forbidden to say her name. Perhaps we should smash any statue of Mary and destroy all pictures of her. You tell Me?

“Mother of all individuals and peoples, you know all their sufferings and hopes. In your motherly heart you feel all the struggles between good and evil, between light and darkness, that convulse the world: accept the plea which we make in the Holy Spirit directly to your heart, and embrace with the love of the Mother and Handmaid of the Lord those who most await this embrace, and also those whose act of entrustment you too await in a particular way. Take under your motherly protection the whole human family, which with affectionate love we entrust to you, O Mother. May there dawn for everyone the time of peace and freedom, the time of truth, of justice and of hope”.

“O Mother of all men and women, and of all peoples, you who know all their sufferings and their hopes, you who have a mother's awareness of all the struggles between good and evil, between light and darkness, which afflict the modern world, accept the cry which we, moved by the Holy Spirit, address directly to your Heart. Embrace with the love of the Mother and Handmaid of the Lord, this human world of ours, which we entrust and consecrate to you, for we are full of concern for the earthly and eternal destiny of individuals and peoples.

In a special way we entrust and consecrate to you those individuals and nations which particularly need to be thus entrusted and consecrated.

“Behold, as we stand before you, Mother of Christ, before your Immaculate Heart, we desire, together with the whole Church, to unite ourselves with the consecration which, for love of us, your Son made of himself to the Father: ‘For their sake', he said, ‘I consecrate myself that they also may be consecrated in the truth' (Jn 17:19). We wish to unite ourselves with our Redeemer in this his consecration for the world and for the human race, which, in his divine Heart, has the power to obtain pardon and to secure reparation.

The power of this consecrationlasts for all time and embraces all individuals, peoples and nations. It overcomes every evil that the spirit of darkness is able to awaken, and has in fact awakened in our times, in the heart of man and in his history.

How deeply we feel the need for the consecration of humanity and the world—our modern world—in union with Christ himself! For the redeeming work of Christ must be shared in by the world through the Church.

The present Year of the Redemption shows this: the special Jubilee of the whole Church.

Above all creatures, may you be blessed, you, the Handmaid of the Lord, who in the fullest way obeyed the divine call!

Hail to you, who are wholly united to the redeeming consecration of your Son!

Mother of the Church! Enlighten the People of God along the paths of faith, hope, and love! Enlighten especially the peoples whose consecration and entrustment by us you are awaiting. Help us to live in the truth of the consecration of Christ for the entire human family of the modern world.

In entrusting to you, O Mother, the world, all individuals and peoples, we also entrust to you this very consecration of the world, placing it in your motherly Heart.

Immaculate Heart! Help us to conquer the menace of evil, which so easily takes root in the hearts of the people of today, and whose immeasurable effects already weigh down upon our modern world and seem to block the paths towards the future!

From famine and war, deliver us.

From nuclear war, from incalculable self-destruction, from every kind of war, deliver us.

From sins against the life of man from its very beginning, deliver us.

From hatred and from the demeaning of the dignity of the children of God, deliver us.

From every kind of injustice in the life of society, both national and international, deliver us.

From readiness to trample on the commandments of God, deliver us.

From attempts to stifle in human hearts the very truth of God, deliver us.

From the loss of awareness of good and evil, deliver us.

From sins against the Holy Spirit, deliver us, deliver us.

Accept, O Mother of Christ, this cry laden with the sufferings of all individual human beings, laden with the sufferings of whole societies.

Help us with the power of the Holy Spirit to conquer all sin: individual sin and the ‘sin of the world', sin in all its manifestations.

Let there be revealed, once more, in the history of the world the infinite saving power of the Redemption: the power of merciful Love! May it put a stop to evil! May it transform consciences! May your Immaculate Heart reveal for all the light of Hope!”.

your institution could not do or say anything to make me believe otherwise.

Rev. 18:4 heard another voice from heaven, saying, "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues;

Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.

Rev. 18:4 heard another voice from heaven, saying, "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues;

Quoting: Shamar

+1

There is always hope, in Jesus Christ...He is the only truth...He IS Truth. Do not be diverted from Him.

Repent...and stop Worshiping the Babylonian system. Turn to The Word of God...and accept no other doctrine. All you really need is Messiah, a KJV and a good concordance, and guidance from the Spirit of Truth, which IS The Holy Spirit of Christ.

Rev. 18:4 heard another voice from heaven, saying, "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues;

Rev. 18:4 heard another voice from heaven, saying, "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues;

+1

There is always hope, in Jesus Christ...He is the only truth...He IS Truth. Do not be diverted from Him.

Repent...and stop Worshiping the Babylonian system. Turn to The Word of God...and accept no other doctrine. All you really need is Messiah, a KJV and a good concordance, and guidance from the Spirit of Truth, which IS The Holy Spirit of Christ.

Rev. 18:4 heard another voice from heaven, saying, "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues;

Hard to say.....Since Yeshua did not exalt her here on earth, it seems unlikely to me. I'm quite sure He loves her very much though :)

Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.

Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.

Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.

Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.

Let me modify to say that I think the *mary thing* is a pretty good indicator of where his heart lies. And that would appear NOT to be with his Creator.

Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.

Who can say? I do know that there were some EXTREMELY evil popes in the past. One of the most recent was pope paul Vi, I believe, in the early 60s. He participated in a satanic rite that let "the smoke of satan" enter.

Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.

I am not trying to lead you into some "gotcha" moment, and you have been generous with your answers. I am trying to figure out where in history the tracks parted ways. At one time everyone was "Catholic" meaning universal. You may just say Christian because the word Catholic does not appeal to you, and given some of the churches history I can understand. So with that in mind, how far back in history do you need to go before you find the church doing the work of God?

Rev. 18:4 heard another voice from heaven, saying, "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues;

+1

There is always hope, in Jesus Christ...He is the only truth...He IS Truth. Do not be diverted from Him.

Repent...and stop Worshiping the Babylonian system. Turn to The Word of God...and accept no other doctrine. All you really need is Messiah, a KJV and a good concordance, and guidance from the Spirit of Truth, which IS The Holy Spirit of Christ.

Rev. 18:4 heard another voice from heaven, saying, "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues;

Okay...really out now. :)

can you prove what you just said without using the bible?

all levites and iraeli kings were messiahs too, which one

jesus? or immanuel mentioned in isaiah 7?hmmm

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 470605

You are not listening. I don't think you really want the Truth, so why should I continue wasting my precious time and my precious light?

I will respond on last time...But I will not again.

I cannot and will not explain anything to you without using the bible...IT is the Word of God...IT is the Truth. You are asking for Truth while trying discount the source of Truth. It cannot be. Jesus is the Word made Flesh. He did not go outside of The Word. He didn't contradict it...not even once.

Nor, would I ever want to step outside of The Word Of God and try to do it myself. I am a man and I can do nothing without My Father in Heaven. I trust Him, and not myself...for my heart is wicked and if I follow it, if I follow "myself," I will open my"self" up for Satan to direct me, I will fail. That is why you are taunting me, and trying to get me to do it. I think you know what you are doing.

No Levite or King is a Messiah, and that is completely unscriptual what you said, not to mention blasphemy. There is only ONE Messiah. That is Yeshua (Jesus Christ). He is the Salvation, and NOBODY gets to the Father without Him...NOBODY period! Not you, Not me , Not the Pope. NOBODY...Get It?

Emmanuel IS Jesus. Emmanuel means "God with us." That is who Isaiah is talking about.

I am done. Go Study if you want to learn, because with all due respect, you know very little. The silver lining is, ignorance is curable. Quit sucking the energy out of the Truth Bearers.

I am not trying to lead you into some "gotcha" moment, and you have been generous with your answers. I am trying to figure out where in history the tracks parted ways. At one time everyone was "Catholic" meaning universal. You may just say Christian because the word Catholic does not appeal to you, and given some of the churches history I can understand. So with that in mind, how far back in history do you need to go before you find the church doing the work of God?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1116491

Up until maybe the second century? Once the Greeks took over the "religion" of Chritianity, it became blended with paganism at an ever increasing level. The Greeks were so adament about not letting in the Messianic Jews that the Jewish beleivers were forbidden to join the "churches." All Hebrew history at that point became lost, and was taken over by Babylonian practices.

Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.

Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.

also read your bible, NOT ONCE does it say jesus was nailed to a cross

NOT ONCE

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 470605

Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. 23This man was handed over to you by God's set purpose and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men,put him to death by nailing him to the cross.[/b] (Acts 2)

I do not know much about Messianic Jews, but will try to read up on the subject to gain a better understanding of your point of view.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1116491

good for you! I think you will find it interesting. Let me know if you have any questions !

Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.

I don't really have a lable for myself, but I identify with that group more than any other. I call myself a follower of Yahoshua ha Mashiach, an Israelite daughter of Asher.

Surely with a Name and pedigree like yours, so proud and ancient, YOU MUST HAVE AN IDEA OF WHO YOU IDENFIFY WITH.

Quoting: Angel Helper

um, i did identify myself. guess you missed that in your hastiness to spew more anger.

Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.