It's time! The day has finally come for the Quake World Championship at QuakeCon 2017. Players from all around the world will come to Dallas, Texas for a chance to compete for a $1 million prize pool. In the last past years (with the declining of Quake at the e-sports main reflector) players have been competing mostly for legacy and glory only, and even one French man said that the game was too old already that no one had nothing to prove anymore. Well, now this is a whole new game and a whole new field, the big money is back and along with it is also the big and fierce competition. This also will be the first Quakecon to feature the new Quake title from id: Quake Champions, some strange version of the long awaited Quake 5, and pretty much the last opportunity for the Quake franchise to get back to the big stages of competitive gaming.

1st: rapha or cooller
2nd: rapha or cooller
3rd: Tox (if he doesn't play like shit like in the regionals) or av3k
4th: Tox, vo0, strenx or k1llsen
Sacrifice:

I do believe that the stack of NOTOFAST is gonna win the tournament, so I'm just gonna cheer for whoever maganes to fuck them up, main candidate of course being Team Liquid, then The defendants and maybe 2z

Confirmed that Spart1e is gonna play at the BYOC tournament, so that makes the lineup: Fraze, Python, Zenaku, Steej, evil, spart1e + some not-to-bad americans that didn't manage to qualify before, lol, what a hell of a tournament this will be.

As I said in another thread, it's prolly safe to say that not all of them gonna qualifiy for the tournament, as this can get a bit tricky and they could pretty much (and prolly will) run into each other

So here's my prediction: The aussies will all run into each other and knock each other out until there is only one left, who will then run into evil. Only two out of the six notable signups you listed will qualify, one of them to be placed in group a (probably evil) and another one to face dandaking/astroboy during group stage (maybe a stray aussie, who managed to avoid the others). Meanwhile group b will feature the long awaited rematch of dahang vs bouvtothemax on lan.

How about a proper format for a fucking 1 million dollar tournament. Like dota 2 ti for example. What the fuck is this shitfest? Unbeleviable. Why not at least 32 player double brackets after groups? Or put the last two from the groups directly to the losers bracket. Dont send them home after 3 games. It is fucking random anyway cause of the byoc qualifers. Very good players can enter the groups from there.

Please somebody ask the so called esports managaer Z4 how can this insanely bad format happen? Ridiculous.

If this was Quake Live or any previous Quake (where there was a very clear difference between like top 5 and everyone else), you wouldn't mind at all. Remember QuakeCon 2013's format? We loved that shit, but that's because of how clear those tier lines are in "hard" games.

Finally a 1 million $ EPIC Quake tournament and with this format? When was the last time we quake fans had anything like this big in terms of tourneys? Sorry but this is beyond lame no matter if it is QW QL QC or whatever.

A good format would be 4 groups with 8 players. Round robin group matches. Top 4 from each group goes to winners bracket bottom 4 goes directly to losers. Maybe this is too much games in terms of time available but something similar would be way better. At least double brackets ffs.

More games more drama more epic moments more fun. Half of the duel players will go home after only 3 freakin games.

You are right, however patched clutch sort of invalidated at least half of qualified players.
I almost would not even mention the 0dmg rockets, as those are not fixed, but those probably will be very different too on LAN (oh I hope some railwhores will get owned so hard!).

The problem with tournament format started in regional qualifiers finals. Double bracket is fine as long as players are seeded properly. Otherwise it only guarantees to determine 2 best players (assuming they can be ordered by skill). This is what happened in regional finals. Some players, rather unluckily got lowest seed and some got highest seed after very easy matches. This badly affected quakecon groups and double elim brackets. Ofc it's not terrible, things will eventually even out a bit in group stages but could be better.

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He will reply with some PR bullshit, like when he said recently on a stream "yeah we totally wanted agent to participate" while losing his documents and mispelling his surname in the visa letter he sent without plane tickets info. This doesnt means Agent would have gotten the visa otherwise, just shows a total lack of ethics from the "esports manager".

I'm sure they try to do as best as they can though, perhaps you are overreacting here when you insult ZeRo4. They fucked up with agent for sure, but there is nothing telling us that it was intentional, or that they don't care now about the mistake they did.

I understand what you mean, and I can understand the frustration about not having the perfect format and so on for such an important era in Quake, but I just have a hard time taking such harsh judgement when I'm not involved and I don't really know things from the inside.

Also, I have a hard time imagining ZeRo4 being a dick but then again, I only know him from thousands miles away, in interviews, etc.

People from idsoft arent enthusiasts doing us a favor in their free time, they are professionals paid to do their jobs - and even though we all do make mistakes, misspelling a name and taking a month to realize you've lost someones documents is a sign of carelessness more than a mere human error. Not to mention the lack of communication and bad coverage of the event.
Zero4 used to be a top played and you would expect him to have more empathy towards these players and put more effort into whatever hes supposed to be doing.

My shoutouts and cheers go out to all the youngsters and not so young contenders who play with the big guys now. They are crucial for the future of this game. Just kidding, https://steamdb.info/app/611500/graphs/ Good luck though.

love tox, but he's been pretty meh so far. No sure av3k has really played much QC at all only time I say him playing he seemed to be just trying to figure the game out... K1llsen has played a lot, but seems to struggle with the game so far.

dahang seems pretty comfortable with the game and with the tournament in the US, you can expect a strong performance. xron and wichtl have both really seemed to really like the game and perform fantastically well - not sure how they'll do at LAN though...

You are right though - if K1llsen finishes in top 3 that will be a big surprise ;)

A lot of your top tier, while no doubt have good skills, have zero history in real competition, kind of a joke putting them above killsen/tox/voo etc., Even some of your bottom tier have had some pretty good results in the past, I would put those above any player who has just a couple of for fun $100 online cups to their name

I pushed for providing a remote stream for QC Duel, Sacrifice, QL CTF and then just locally recording for YouTube but no success - sorry people! They're on a tight deadline and I guess don't want to risk my overly organised - definitely have mild ocd - self delaying things. That's fair anyway, so let's just enjoy the show. I'm looking forward to seeing djWHEAT back on the desk for sure, in addition to the talent they do have. I get to relax all day! On the plus side post QuakeCon, the game now has 10 spectator slots and so I might start covering 125fps again.

Great, man! Such a fluent english talk just as if it was truely your native tongue, not australian! Need moar :D
Apparently, australian and danish languages might appear to be much closer than one might presume :P

As much as we like cooller, he is not a top seeded Quake player anymore.

He qualified from the loser bracket. That means he didn't earn a top spot for this event, no matter his name.

And BTW, the last Quake or duel world championship he won was in 2006. 11 years ago, and he played in all the major QL seasons. He's on a like 20 world tournaments losing streak (or not winning streak).

And BTW, the last Quake or duel world championship he won was in 2006. 11 years ago, and he played in all the major QL seasons. He's on a like 20 world tournaments losing streak (or not winning streak).

Yet again, not wrong but completely eliminated context etc by framing it that way.

I am quake fan for 15 years and It's not intresting to watch this gamemode for me.. ( I loved Q2 / Q3 tdm to watch).. So for non quakers, I guess it's not intresting at all too.. Duels are better, but still far from what it could be without round system..
I am of for csgo mm till duels..

That's true. Even the casters from time to time say "I don't understand what is happening on the screen". The game is not interesting to watch. I am not a QC player and I totally lost, dunno what's happening on the screen. Although I played Quake3 before.

I only see 800+ people on steam
EDIT: It varies wildly, just some minutes after that there are 7k people
EDIT2: Those are probably not real viewers, Quakecon sale is on front page of Steam and stream is forcefully played for anyone who views the sale page.

Agreed - the mode was supposed to have been designed to be spectator friendly and attract viewers not previously familiar to the game. Well I've been playing for years and I can't follow it. I don't think I could have made a more difficult to follow spectator mode if I tried... They need to admit failure and go back to the drawing board, or simply bring back CTF, the champion abilities alone will change that mode completely to be almost a completely new mode.

Anyone following the TDM scene a little should have predicted such outcome.

The last time Silencep and Clawz played TDM in HoQ, they nailed everyone to the wall with their team at the time. Silencep is just insane. Latrommi a.k.a. Immortal is considered as one of the best, if not the best TDM player of all time, you wouldn't ever see anyone dishing out as much damage as him, absolute pressure and precision. And Xron, well Xron beat Tox in duel. What else do you need to know?

I known he has always been insanely good, but many years passed since his last important matches. Seeing him in action again was refreshing of his talent, also his amazing way to optimize each action between movement and aim...

From Twitch chat: "QuakeChampions: We lost all internet at the venue, the backup internet is not good enough to support the stream. We'll be back as soon as we can, we hopefully have a solution in place to upgrade the backup within one hour. Please stay tuned here and on twitter.com/Quake for updates."

-no cure for notofast found yet not even close
-yames pretends to just play for fun but plays really prepared instead
-team liquid strong but 2z liquified them
-2z dude
-latrommi wants to make his father proud
-avek good haircut clutch plays
-vo0 says this game is impossible to play
-zoot wears really tasteful shirt, honey and mustard are relegated to stream 2
-byoc has 4 famous names and they will come through
-myzma lost badly to tea liquid
-dahang gained quite a lot of weight
-tox playing in top shape
-NA caster force EU banter but their teams get rekt one by one
-sound off sync first 20 minutes
-horrible organisation as every year
-internet fallout, tournament is no longer streamed but vods will be uploaded

First 30+ mins the stream was out of sync, badly
No audio from ddk + zsx during their segment
/quakechampions: offline for 5 mins (2 or 3 times while trying to fix audio)
No casters audio for the first 20 mins of games
QC looks 15fps, even on source 60fps
zsx bashes sacrifice when his mic was left on during a short break
/quakechampions2: Condiments talking for just over 1 hour(!) while waiting for games
Point blank shotguns dealing 0 dmg etc etc
/quakechampions2: much better camera work, game is a little smoother, shit casters tho
Netcode doesn't work, even on lan https://i.imgur.com/CvJtOqL.png
/quakecon: decent unofficially official coverage
<later that day>
quakechampions down
then quakechampions2 + quakecon down as wellhttps://www.twitch.tv/videos/169532862?t=01m11s

Aug 24 21:11:01 flyer150: :RIP
Aug 24 21:21:54 <quakechampions> Hey guys, tethered to my phone to update you: All of the internet at QuakeCon is down.
Aug 24 21:28:45 <quakechampions> Issue is confirmed on ISP's side, not internal QuakeCon.
Aug 24 21:32:49 <quakechampions> QuakeCon's outbound traffic looks an awful lot like a DDoS to ISP's.
Aug 24 21:36:07 <quakechampions> ISP is not blocking anything, the ISP confirmed that they have an issue on their backend. Pray for Quek.
Aug 24 22:22:10 <quakechampions> Sorry, someone unplugged the cable
Aug 24 22:22:12 <quakechampions> jk
Aug 24 22:25:46 <quakechampions> We lost all internet at the venue, the backup internet is not good enough to support the stream. We'll be back as soon as we can, we hopefully have a solution in place to upgrade the backup within one hour. Please stay tuned here and on twitter.com/Quake for updates.
Aug 24 22:31:15 <quakechampions> Here as VODs on Twitch and on our YouTube as well! Youtube.com/Quake
Aug 24 22:33:13 <quakechampions> Assuming the 6 gigabit line is back up from the ISP, you'll be fine.We intend to go live again with gameplay within the hour. But You may want to go to bed to be rested for tomorrow if you're so inclined.
Aug 24 22:33:26 <quakechampions> We have a backup that we're working on upgrading, it won't currently support the stream.

fun fact: according to Netindex (Speedtest), for quite some time the fastest 'city' in the world in terms of internet speed was Suplacu de Barcau.. a random commune in bumfuck Romania that virtually nobody can point on a map

enormous waiting times between maps tox vs raisy, caster mics left on during ad, a couple of more such aggravating incompetencies and we are surpassing spinning logo level. This has good potential to become the worst qcon of them all.

Is this your first Quakecon? Thursday = Technical issues day. Only the match of the day (tox's) is worth watching. Stage may or may not be caught on fire.

Friday and onwards is where it's at. Friday = Everybody thinks cooller can win the event, rapha not playing well. Saturday = cooller eliminated. Sunday = rapha wins, Willits still can't recognize tox despite having handed him hundreds of thousands over the years.

QL is a universal game, same physics for everyone, QC has 10 characters leading up to this tourney, in Europe/Russia, they have played top players in every character for months, in the USA, they don't, so Rapha has not played 10 different high levelmatchups until very recently.

Totally unprepared for what he's going to get when he comes up against any of the top Euros.

Don't think this type of duel favors Rapha style. It's so aim dependent. Cooller played good but he still missed some crucial shots. It basically comes down to who ever can bring the best aim to the table this tourney. Wouldn't be surprised if one of the new players doesn't walk with this.