Who Are The Others That God Refers To Concerning Our Creation? Just Curious......

Originally posted by davethebear
According to Genesis 1:26-27, it states, "Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness,’ So God created man in his own image, in
the image of God he created him….

The sentence answers itself.
GOd created Man in His OWN image.
The 'our' has to be God ... God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.
One God ... Three Divine Persons (aspects) .... eternal .. without beginning or end.

I may be wrong here, not being a scholar of the bible, but considering that this is verse 26 of the first chapter of the bible, does it actually
mention God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit in the previous 25 verses? I haven't got a bible, so I can't look it up....

Originally posted by borntowatch
Funny how its a biblical question and the OP asked people not to use scripture to explain scripture.
Funny how so many start talking weird stuff about what the "US" in the bible is, from outside biblical sources.

The Trinity is the Christian answer to "US" in the book of Genesis. The Jews have a hard time explaining it themselves.
Humanity was created perfect without sin, sin enters the world and with sin came death. Death for children, babys, all life.
Jesus sacrifice restored the pre sin state of humanity (free gift that needs to be recieved) and will be rectified upon Christ's return

The Apostle Paul understood that all things were made in Christ and through Christ. So what does "us" mean? It means the trinity and/or Christ and
other high ranking beings made by Christ like say the archangels known as "thrones".

and you have evidence foe this I take it, these high ranking beings, thrones

They exist in scripture. For example the God of the Burning Bush turned over control and watchership to one of the arch angels. This angel then
appears to the whole nation at some point after that and spoke to them. This being is encountered a number of times in the old testament and a few
times in the gospels. And that is just one example.

Might not make sense to a non-believer I have to admit. To a believer though, it's surprisingly simple: The Trinity, the Godhead. God the Father, God
the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. The three facets to who God Is. I know you asked to not be riddled with verses, so I will leave you with a
paraphrase: Jesus is said to be the Word, and when God created the world, the Word was with God and the Word was God.
Even knowing of he 3 aspects of God, it still trips me out. There is only 1 God, but 3 facets to Him? Blows my mind.

It reads more as if these folks "talking w/God"(Adonai) are actually channeling the EloHim/Ra groups...

This subject was quite stimulating to type the least, |AM picturing all the differing views at the Temple Mount, all arguing and NOT allowing the
"other Guy" whatever He/She thinks... |'m awaiting the part where Jesus, Judas (Jesus' bff) Mary Magdalene all trip around w/Siddhartha Gautama... The
Tao would tell us that the One who KNOWS does not talk (type) and the One who types does NOT know... Imagine written at least 500 years before Jesus'
first low-bid in J'Salem? It reads the same and isn't as "sullied" as the "Rule Book" dropped off at every flea bag dump on the freeway, but the 'key'
is in the very first verse, "The Tao that can be told is NOT the eternal Tao" so,sew, whats that mean? You won't find Your answer here. It is ALREADY
in YOU!... That is 'The Game'... For You to discover the Christ Consciousness that is inside of each of Us, that is/are actually One.

You are 'The Church' but "TheChurch™" wrecked it by twisting the words around... | tried to point that out 'bout page #3. This was also part of
Jesus 'mission' (Why go to a Church/Temple/Synagogue when You are those things? ) This part was left out by the "powers that be" (remember Moishe..
Moses turned in 2 slabs when there was 3 slabs and a written scroll) But don't blindly believe Me, SEE for YourSelf...

You've 'lived' before (Akashic Records) but this time (when You die) You'll be given a choice (49 'days' to decide) do You go on or do You go back to
the hopper? How fun would poker be if You knew Your hand, the next cards dealt and everybody else's hand? "as above, so below"...

| see only a few caught You casting...

EDIT: That isn't to mean You have 49 days left to 'Live'... That is after You have lived. But then we'd be typing about the whole time/space continuum
and that would take up 2 or 3 pages...

Learn, Teach and Have Fun... "worrying" is a major cause of Alzheimers (dehydration, lack of negative ions) so "Don't Worry"....

To a child, the story of Santa claus is simple, he comes from the North Pole and every Christmas Eve he slides down the chimney and deliver presents
to all the children thats been good (duh!)...see the connection??

according to historians, when they jews moved into canaan, they took the god el, which was the chief god of the canaanites, as their tribal god. the
jews were polytheistic at this time, recognizing that there was more than one god. this is what is portrayed in genesis. the multitude of gods
coming together under direction of el, the chief god (think zeus). however, they chose to worship only el, and over time decided that all the other
gods were false, and that el was the only god.

another good question would be where is the female force.

you have a father, a son, and a nebulous other. no mother anywhere in the picture. were women so looked down on that the female aspect had to be
turned into a sexless energy?

please explain the following if bible prophesies are 100% true. btw, this is just the top of fail bible prophesy.

Destruction of Egypt
Egypt. What a desolate wasteland

Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will bring a sword upon thee, and cut off man and beast out of thee. And the land of Egypt shall be
desolate and waste; and they shall know that I am the LORD: because he hath said, The river is mine, and I have made it. Behold, therefore I am
against thee, and against thy rivers, and I will make the land of Egypt utterly waste and desolate, from the tower of Syene even unto the border of
Ethiopia. No foot of man shall pass through it, nor foot of beast shall pass through it, neither shall it be inhabited forty years. And I will make
the land of Egypt desolate in the midst of the countries that are desolate, and her cities among the cities that are laid waste shall be desolate
forty years: and I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations, and will disperse them through the countries.[5]

This passage is one of the most erroneous in the entire Bible. Egypt has never been a desolate waste, there has never been a time when people have not
walked through it, there has never been a period of forty years when Egypt was uninhabited, and it has never been surrounded by other desolate
countries.[6]

In Ezekiel 30:10-11 he further predicts that Nebuchadnezzar will destroy Egypt:

This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will put an end to the hordes of Egypt by the hand of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon. He and his
army—the most ruthless of nations— will be brought in to destroy the land. They will draw their swords against Egypt and fill the land with the
slain. (NIV)

However, Nebuchadnezzar was defeated in his only attempt to invade Egypt.[7]
[edit] Nile will dry up
Yep, still there

Ezekiel 30:12 continues with a prediction that the Nile River will run dry.

I will dry up the streams of the Nile and sell the land to evil men; by the hand of foreigners I will lay waste the land and everything in it. I
the LORD have spoken. (NIV)

"a
horrible piece of establishment propaganda... littered with false statements and ad hominem. I imagine that the whole of the wiki is a collection of
gatekeepers for consensus science and PTB doctrine...." www.fmotl.com...

"...anyone can anonymously write
whatever they want (but correction of the tripe written will be considered “vandalism”!) RationalWiki is one of those sites. RationalWiki is a
project of Trent Toulouse, who has the stated objective of “exposing conspiracy theories”. He once implied that he considers a conspiracy theory
everything that disagrees with mainstream dogma, making RationalWiki a platform for anyone with an agenda to attack researchers struggling to bring
important facts to public attention." owndoc.com...

I'm not going to read thru the BS stances of everyone else when I actually have a genuine answer for you.

The people at The Chronicle Project have been translating the original hebrew bible WITHOUT BIAS and
WITHOUT INSERTING ANY OF THEIR OWN EMOTION. Basically it's a RAW translation using a 'Self-Defining Language System' discovered within the original
hebrew language. You could even call it 'God's translating hebrew for dummies' system.

Here is their full translation of some of Genesis along with all the hebrew glyphs
and their meanings, and accompanied by their paraphrased english to better understand the raw translation.

Basically, it states that their was a group called 'The Originators' who were tasked with terraforming Planet Earth AND CREATING US. Then there is
'God', their commander, their leader, called 'Ruler of All'.

They've translated all of this from the raw hebrew, and they present all of their findings completely unbiased. They are jewish so the mistranslations
they have found have both clarified certain wrong translations and also shook the foundation of some of their beliefs.

Have a read, it's all free, be sure to read the accompanying notes as they flesh out more of their discoveries.

"a
horrible piece of establishment propaganda... littered with false statements and ad hominem. I imagine that the whole of the wiki is a collection of
gatekeepers for consensus science and PTB doctrine...." www.fmotl.com...

"...anyone can anonymously
write whatever they want (but correction of the tripe written will be considered “vandalism”!) RationalWiki is one of those sites. RationalWiki is
a project of Trent Toulouse, who has the stated objective of “exposing conspiracy theories”. He once implied that he considers a conspiracy theory
everything that disagrees with mainstream dogma, making RationalWiki a platform for anyone with an agenda to attack researchers struggling to bring
important facts to public attention." owndoc.com...

edit on 9-9-2013 by Murgatroid because: I felt like it..

fail.

you bash the link, but not the info it contains. just the part i posted shows that bible prophesies are hit or miss.

Nobody knows who the "We" is that God refers to in Genesis because there are no scriptures that elaborate.

We can only speculate. I would say that because God had previously created the host of heaven, he was talking to them.

On the babies born with 1 arm etc...

We were originally created perfect. We were also created with free will and this was unfortunately used to choose sin, even though we were told ahead
of time that the consequences would be multi-generational.

So we live in a corrupted world, passing on corrupted DNA on to our children.

I find it rather sad that people seem to think that if we don't observe something right now then it never existed. Take human lifetimes for example.
Nobody can explain why we live for as long as we do, yet people are quick to boldly state that the scriptures are a fable because they state that
early people lived for hundreds of years.

It is a fundamental law of our universe that things become more corrupt and chaotic over time. Our very DNA degrades with each generation. It actually
makes perfect sense that lifetimes become progressively shorter as chronicled in the Hebrew scriptures.

Originally posted by davethebear
According to Genesis 1:26-27, it states, "Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness,’ So God created man in his own image, in
the image of God he created him….

The sentence answers itself.
GOd created Man in His OWN image.
The 'our' has to be God ... God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.
One God ... Three Divine Persons (aspects) .... eternal .. without beginning or end.

I believe in something.. I don't know exactly what I believe but I do believe in god... Is it because I truly believe or I fear of damnation, I
really don't know. I've tried to answer this myself.

Can I honestly say something does exist? No, but I try so hard to believe and convince myself.

With that being said. I am Catholic and I grew up with a family who believes it and thus taught it. I would think as well that when god said in
"our" image, he did mean the 3 forms of god.

The Throne in Heaven
4 After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said,
“Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.” 2 At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven
with someone sitting on it. 3 And the one who sat there had the appearance of jasper and ruby. A rainbow that shone like an emerald encircled the
throne. 4 Surrounding the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty-four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns
of gold on their heads. 5 From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of thunder. In front of the throne, seven lamps were blazing.
These are the seven spirits[a] of God. 6 Also in front of the throne there was what looked like a sea of glass, clear as crystal.

probably these guys it refers to in rev. crack a bible and do a little reading..

windword
One would think that something like that, an event greater than the plagues of Moses, ruining an entire civilization, would be recorded and Yahweh
credited with such a victory!

Some questions that might actually benefit those seeking the truth...

Why do you believe what "history" is telling you while at the same time doubt everything God is saying?

You can spend your entire LIFE questioning God...

Until you wake up to the FACT that history is being written by men that HATE God with a passion, NOTHING is going to make a lick of sense.

The art of propaganda through falsification of history has been around for most of recorded history. This mind control technique was used successfully
by ancient Egyptian historians

“the biggest cover-up in the history of mankind is the history of mankind itself”

“There are two histories: official history, lying,
and then secret history, where you find the real causes of events.” ~ Honoré de Balzac

"It was also illegal to record any history in
Egypt that made the Pharaoh look bad. That is why they did not record the God of the slaves whooping their butts. If any scribe did that, he probably
would have been killed. As an Atheist friend of mine who loved Egypt told me, Egyptian history was basically
propaganda." Source

The Illuminati realized they had to deceive an entire
population of people if they had any hope whatsoever of achieving their coveted New World Order. As early as 1911, the Illuminati began buying
textbook writing companies, until they owned them all after World War I. Once they got control of textbooks, they gradually began to "dumb down" the
curricula and rewrite history. Rewriting history was the first step in achieving the New World
Order. Source

The trinity is a human concept, and that word doesnt exists even in the Bible. That word appear around 553 if i remember and even Jesus never used
that term...

If the Bible was the word of God, it will contains not any mistake and the problem, that there are a lot, lot of errors, mistakes .

My opinion:The Bible is not from God or have been altered by the human hand through the ages.

The word Trinity is not a human concept but rather a matter of logical deduction. And whats more it really was never intended to produce a total
understanding of the relationship between the Father, Son and Spirit. We see all three independently operational and together on any number of
occasions in scripture.

As far as the Bible being altered we do have some problems. Because we can only compare manuscripts to find alterations then all we really know is
that some, few, of certain translations are different. That's really all we can say because to make your total case we would have to have original
documents. Like the actual edition of Jeremiahs scribal recordings of Jeremiahs words.

As far as copies that were made and recopied over the years......how would you like to be the scribe that got caught changing the original text in
your copy? You would be tossed out and your mess destroyed. All copies were checked and this procedure wasn't taken lightly. As it is you have copied
texted that are hundreds of years apart in age with not so much as a punctuation error.

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