What's the weirdest argument you've heard about my you should have children? - Atheist Nexus2015-08-02T22:34:43Zhttp://atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/whats-the-weirdest-argument?groupUrl=thechildlessandgodless&commentId=2182797%3AComment%3A2130965&xg_source=activity&groupId=2182797%3AGroup%3A19610&feed=yes&xn_auth=noNot on topic, but every bit a…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-06-28:2182797:Comment:22605132013-06-28T10:38:45.155Ztom sarbeckhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/TomSarbeck
<p>Not on topic, but every bit as silly.</p>
<p>Years after my wife and I split, a woman told me, "If you marry again you'll have someone to cry at your funeral."</p>
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<p>Not on topic, but every bit as silly.</p>
<p>Years after my wife and I split, a woman told me, "If you marry again you'll have someone to cry at your funeral."</p>
<p></p> "You're never really going to…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-06-28:2182797:Comment:22604912013-06-28T05:49:27.015ZBeth KZhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/BethKulacz
<p>"You're never really going to be ready for kids, so you should have them anyway."</p>
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<p>I've heard that one too. Then, in the next breath, they're complaining about all of those "welfare mothers" who "have kids before they're ready and able to take care of them." Okay, so which is it?</p>
<p>"You're never really going to be ready for kids, so you should have them anyway."</p>
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<p>I've heard that one too. Then, in the next breath, they're complaining about all of those "welfare mothers" who "have kids before they're ready and able to take care of them." Okay, so which is it?</p> Kitty, My dad, who had someti…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-06-26:2182797:Comment:22593022013-06-26T08:36:09.627Ztom sarbeckhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/TomSarbeck
<p>Kitty, My dad, who had sometimes been violent, made a decision easy: at 25 I didn't want to do to another set of kids what he'd done to his kids. I married a woman whose parents had died in a car accident. While in an orphanage, she was adopted and her adoptive father died. She didn't want to subject any kids to what she had known.</p>
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<p>Kitty, My dad, who had sometimes been violent, made a decision easy: at 25 I didn't want to do to another set of kids what he'd done to his kids. I married a woman whose parents had died in a car accident. While in an orphanage, she was adopted and her adoptive father died. She didn't want to subject any kids to what she had known.</p>
<p></p> This one is so risibly patern…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-12-27:2182797:Comment:21309652012-12-27T02:26:38.076ZMichael OLhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/MichaelOL
<p>This one is so risibly paternalistic, that it's outright brilliant: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/16/opinion/brooks-the-age-of-possibility.html?ref=davidbrooks&amp;_r=0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/16/opinion/brooks-the-age-of-possibi...</a></p>
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<p>I quote: "People are not better off when they are given maximum personal freedom to do what they want. They’re better off when they are enshrouded in commitments that transcend personal choice…</p>
<p>This one is so risibly paternalistic, that it's outright brilliant: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/16/opinion/brooks-the-age-of-possibility.html?ref=davidbrooks&amp;_r=0" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/16/opinion/brooks-the-age-of-possibi...</a></p>
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<p>I quote: "People are not better off when they are given maximum personal freedom to do what they want. They’re better off when they are enshrouded in commitments that transcend personal choice — commitments to family, God, craft and country."</p>
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<p>So the purpose of having kids is to constrain and channel one's otherwise unfettered tendencies. Children are good precisely because they limit our choices, for otherwise we'd run amok, and would ultimately be unhappy.</p>
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<p>Freedom is slavery!</p> That sounds like when Dawkins…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-09-06:2182797:Comment:20464292012-09-06T13:17:09.058ZSusan Stankohttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/SusanStanko
<p>That sounds like when Dawkins claimed we should all be happy to alive because we are the few that made it.</p>
<p>That sounds like when Dawkins claimed we should all be happy to alive because we are the few that made it.</p> I just got a new one!
"Not ha…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-09-06:2182797:Comment:20463222012-09-06T06:59:43.055ZJonel Burgehttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/JonelBurge
<p>I just got a new one!</p>
<p>"Not having kids is CRUEL because you're not thinking about all the people who can't have children. It's just like, laughing in their face because you can have kids but refuse to!"</p>
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<p>....what?!</p>
<p>I just got a new one!</p>
<p>"Not having kids is CRUEL because you're not thinking about all the people who can't have children. It's just like, laughing in their face because you can have kids but refuse to!"</p>
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<p>....what?!</p> "You're just bitter that you…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-09-05:2182797:Comment:20455062012-09-05T13:20:20.456ZSusan Stankohttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/SusanStanko
<p><strong>"You're just bitter that you haven't found a man yet who will fuck you."</strong></p>
<p><strong>"Yeah, it's because no one will have sex with you, right?"</strong></p>
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<p><strong><br/></strong>I get this from a right-wing nitwit because I am asexual.</p>
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<p>One uber-religious taxi driver told me that a need to get married and have kids because it is in the bible.</p>
<p><strong>"You're just bitter that you haven't found a man yet who will fuck you."</strong></p>
<p><strong>"Yeah, it's because no one will have sex with you, right?"</strong></p>
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<p><strong><br/></strong>I get this from a right-wing nitwit because I am asexual.</p>
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<p>One uber-religious taxi driver told me that a need to get married and have kids because it is in the bible.</p> "Sadly, I'm not the type of p…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-09-05:2182797:Comment:20454832012-09-05T08:30:48.868ZJonel Burgehttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/JonelBurge
<p>"Sadly, I'm not the type of person who savors the smell of my own farts."</p>
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<p>I win at retaliation for this kind of crap. It's from years of people not getting that I detest children if they aren't at least 14.</p>
<p>"Sadly, I'm not the type of person who savors the smell of my own farts."</p>
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<p>I win at retaliation for this kind of crap. It's from years of people not getting that I detest children if they aren't at least 14.</p> Oh hell that's the most insul…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-09-05:2182797:Comment:20456292012-09-05T08:29:18.150ZJonel Burgehttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/JonelBurge
<p>Oh hell that's the most insulting one.</p>
<p>I've me a ton of immature moms. Dragging their kids around when the 3-year-old is clearly sleepy, tired, and doesn't want to be their. Spoiling their children to death and not doing anything when their 5-year-old steals from stores. Bringing kids to midnight premieres of R-rated movies(Watchmen had a TON of elementary school-age kids in it! WHAT THE HELL. It has blue penis. It has sex scenes. It has political themes. It is not for…</p>
<p>Oh hell that's the most insulting one.</p>
<p>I've me a ton of immature moms. Dragging their kids around when the 3-year-old is clearly sleepy, tired, and doesn't want to be their. Spoiling their children to death and not doing anything when their 5-year-old steals from stores. Bringing kids to midnight premieres of R-rated movies(Watchmen had a TON of elementary school-age kids in it! WHAT THE HELL. It has blue penis. It has sex scenes. It has political themes. It is not for kids!)</p>
<p>Having kids does not "mature" you. Having kids will not "cure my depression" as some have suggested. Having kids will not make a girl who was previously 14, got D's on her report cards, and got in arguments with her mom, suddenly get straight A's and get along with her mother.</p>
<p>Also, any time someone says this, I usually sigh and go "have you even SEEN the descriptions for most episodes of Teen Mom?" 99% of them are girls who can't do the most basic of care for their children but had them because of some pro-life "I'm better than you because I had sex and the egg implanted" ideal.</p>
<p>So you had sex. Thanks for alerting the world with a screaming bundle of snot.</p>
<p>No, it doesn't make anyone more mature. In fact, it usually makes people who were already abusive, even more abusive, and people who were already depressed, even more depressed.</p> Wow, I haven't commented yet!…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-09-05:2182797:Comment:20453672012-09-05T08:23:54.750ZJonel Burgehttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/JonelBurge
<p>Wow, I haven't commented yet!</p>
<p>I can't believe I haven't.</p>
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<p>Well, the worst shit I get to my face is usually people smugly going "well you'll change your mind, one day."</p>
<p>but here's some I've heard passed around:</p>
<p>"But Pregnancy is so beautiful!"</p>
<p>"kids are the greatest thing to ever happen to me!"</p>
<p>"But my kids are my greatest accomplishment!"</p>
<p>"You're denying God's path by not having children!"</p>
<p>"How can you NOT choose to be a mother?…</p>
<p>Wow, I haven't commented yet!</p>
<p>I can't believe I haven't.</p>
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<p>Well, the worst shit I get to my face is usually people smugly going "well you'll change your mind, one day."</p>
<p>but here's some I've heard passed around:</p>
<p>"But Pregnancy is so beautiful!"</p>
<p>"kids are the greatest thing to ever happen to me!"</p>
<p>"But my kids are my greatest accomplishment!"</p>
<p>"You're denying God's path by not having children!"</p>
<p>"How can you NOT choose to be a mother? I'm sure you'd make a great one!"</p>
<p>"But don't you want to be treated like a pregnant goddess!"</p>
<p>"It's the most pure love of all, how can you not want to experience it!"</p>
<p>"You'll change your mind eventually, and you'll regret not having kids sooner."</p>
<p>"You're just selfish."</p>
<p>"You're just bitter that you haven't found a man yet who will fuck you."</p>
<p>"Yeah, it's because no one will have sex with you, right?"</p>
<p>"Well you know birth control is evil, and you'll give into the sin of sex eventually."</p>
<p>From an atheist: "That's your job, though, to find a man who will put up with your crap attitude and raise his kids to be good atheist children. We have to out-breed these religious people."</p>
<p>"But your life needs to have purpose..."</p>
<p>"What, were you raped as a child?"</p>
<p>"Were you abused as a child?"</p>
<p>"Do you just want to deprive your parents of being grandparents?"</p>
<p>"So when do you plan on having kids of your own?"(this one actually has been asked, by my dad's side of the family, when my sister got pregnant. She's 16 months younger than me, so I'm "failing" because I haven't chosen a stupid racist redneck/settled/settled down/dealt with verbal/physical abuse so I can please their idea of a "good woman")</p>
<p>"God created all women to be mothers. It's in the bible."</p>