For every step forward science gives us, we lose something valuable in the myopia of modernity.

For example: mass production. It's great we can all have the same inferior goods for cheap, but that's just it: they're inferior.

A good ol' straight razor could last a man a lifetime or more and give him a shave thousands of times without a reduction in quality (provided upkeep) while a modern cartridge razor can barely give you a good shave more than ten times and quickly becomes crap anyway.

Or beer. Anyone who's ever home brewed knows just how much better it can be than canned shiat. Even bad home brew is usually much better than things like Budweiser and Coors.

And technology! Ha! We have more stress from the beeps and the boops and the constant input than we ever did back in the day. Sure, communication has become faster, letting fark itself exist. But the effect on things like the workplace have been vile.

doglover:Starting to? Where have you been for the past 200 years subby?

For every step forward science gives us, we lose something valuable in the myopia of modernity.

For example: mass production. It's great we can all have the same inferior goods for cheap, but that's just it: they're inferior.

A good ol' straight razor could last a man a lifetime or more and give him a shave thousands of times without a reduction in quality (provided upkeep) while a modern cartridge razor can barely give you a good shave more than ten times and quickly becomes crap anyway.

Or beer. Anyone who's ever home brewed knows just how much better it can be than canned shiat. Even bad home brew is usually much better than things like Budweiser and Coors.

And technology! Ha! We have more stress from the beeps and the boops and the constant input than we ever did back in the day. Sure, communication has become faster, letting fark itself exist. But the effect on things like the workplace have been vile.

I know, right? When science made it impossible to use a straight razor and home brew, that really messed things up! Darn you, science, for preventing me from home brewing and mandating the use of disposable razors!

FloydA:I know, right? When science made it impossible to use a straight razor and home brew, that really messed things up! Darn you, science, for preventing me from home brewing and mandating the use of disposable razors!

They didn't prevent it.

They popularized the idea of single variables.

Once upon a when, people considered the whole package, not just one aspect of it. So instead of oligopoly you had numerous smaller businesses. Many unregulated.

Wasn't there a crappy movie where this scientist created a vaccine that made people immune to addiction and then the cigarette companies tried to assassinate him because without nicotine addiction nobody would buy cigarettes.

Ghastly:Wasn't there a crappy movie where this scientist created a vaccine that made people immune to addiction and then the cigarette companies tried to assassinate him because without nicotine addiction nobody would buy cigarettes.

I would like to watch that movie. If anybody has information on this movie I will greatly appreciate you and give you a nice shade of light green*.

Ghastly:Wasn't there a crappy movie where this scientist created a vaccine that made people immune to addiction and then the cigarette companies tried to assassinate him because without nicotine addiction nobody would buy cigarettes.

I can't find anything.

There was that movie about the GOP style politician who hires a hitman on himself, then goes around town and doing ultra liberal things, winds up loving the city and the poor people, and tries to call off the hit.

There's also the movie "Thank You For Smoking" but that's all I can find. No crossovers.

doglover:jaylectricity: doglover: There's also the movie "Thank You For Smoking" but that's all I can find.

That's the first one I thought of, but I quickly realized it wasn't that.

The problem with Google's spider is the popularity contest. The really off brand B movies get shuffled out of the way when a company like Pfizer makes their plot a reality.

Apparently there's a real tobacco vaccine out there or in the works.

This was a really really crappy movie. It was one of those movies I stumbled upon late at night on TV. Watched about 15 minutes of it before the acting became too unbearable to watch. One of those movies that just used ambient lighting because hey, lights are expensive and setting them up is real hard.

jaylectricity:Drugs are different. Different from sobriety and different from each other. Let's stop putting everything into one category.

Sure they're different from each other. But if an addict finds that a drug no longer works on him and he hasn't dealt with the root of the problem, he's likely to move to something else. It happens all the time, usually when a drug stops working because he's built up a tolerance.

Mugato:jaylectricity: Drugs are different. Different from sobriety and different from each other. Let's stop putting everything into one category.

Sure they're different from each other. But if an addict finds that a drug no longer works on him and he hasn't dealt with the root of the problem, he's likely to move to something else. It happens all the time, usually when a drug stops working because he's built up a tolerance.

Then you believe that addiction only happens to people who are unhappy or have some other sort of problem. That's not always the case. Sometimes people just fark around and then just don't realize that they're reacting to a physical addiction.

jaylectricity:Ghastly: Wasn't there a crappy movie where this scientist created a vaccine that made people immune to addiction and then the cigarette companies tried to assassinate him because without nicotine addiction nobody would buy cigarettes.

I would like to watch that movie. If anybody has information on this movie I will greatly appreciate you and give you a nice shade of light green*.

A-Rth-Urp-Hil-Ipdenu:jaylectricity: Ghastly: Wasn't there a crappy movie where this scientist created a vaccine that made people immune to addiction and then the cigarette companies tried to assassinate him because without nicotine addiction nobody would buy cigarettes.

I would like to watch that movie. If anybody has information on this movie I will greatly appreciate you and give you a nice shade of light green*.

Lando Lincoln:Eh. I'd rather live in a world of mostly science than mostly not-science. The Dark Ages sucked balls for nearly everybody. Except high-ranking members of religious institutions.

There's a professor somewhere who feeds one of his economics classes the question "Would you rather make $70k today or 100 years ago?" as a thought experiment. That amount is a nice middle class life style today but was a 1%'er a hundred years ago. And then you didn't have vaccines or antibiotics, no iPods or TV's, no air travel or highways.

I'd pull out more details, but I think it was a Planet Money podcast. I have an associated memory of listening to it while shopping on a Saturday in a specific neighborhood, but I don't remember the title of the segment.

/There's a difference between belief and knowledge.//If something can be known then you can be right.

doglover: A good ol' straight razor could last a man a lifetime or more and give him a shave thousands of times without a reduction in quality (provided upkeep) while a modern cartridge razor can barely give you a good shave more than ten times and quickly becomes crap anyway.

British researchers are even looking into a type of drug that would mimic the 'buzz' gained from alcohol, but have none of the adverse effects. This new 'harm-free' drug would also have an anti-dote which once taken, would cancel out the effects of the drug and thus mean that the person would be safe to drive home, or return to work.

doglover:Starting to? Where have you been for the past 200 years subby?

For every step forward science gives us, we lose something valuable in the myopia of modernity.

For example: mass production. It's great we can all have the same inferior goods for cheap, but that's just it: they're inferior.

A good ol' straight razor could last a man a lifetime or more and give him a shave thousands of times without a reduction in quality (provided upkeep) while a modern cartridge razor can barely give you a good shave more than ten times and quickly becomes crap anyway.

Or beer. Anyone who's ever home brewed knows just how much better it can be than canned shiat. Even bad home brew is usually much better than things like Budweiser and Coors.

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Wrong. Coors Banquet is actually a pretty good mass procuced. You could've singled out 100 other beers worse than Coors. Coors Light for instance.Here's me (a week before father's day) with our newborn. And a cold Coors in the campin' chair.