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ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.comSat, 10 Dec 2016 01:57:28 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: olcaphttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277965
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:25:23 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277965They’ll probably have to say that someone who works for the NFL, and really had no authority to send out the memo to the teams, did so, and then some poor schmuck will get fired.
]]>By: olcaphttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277951
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:21:35 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277951Being the rich kid that has always gotten everything he wanted, the only life Goodell has ever known, he can’t stand to know that a huge percentage of NFL fans have no respect for him, and think he’s a clown who’s ruining the game. I’m sure he knows the feelings of most on this site, at the very least. Being that he has absolutely nothing to do on most days, I’m sure he checks for stories in which he is mentioned, several times a day.

That being said, I believe this satement was made in a moment of rage, and presented a problem that Rog could think of no way to handle. Thus, he blurted out the first thing that came to his mind, and without even thinking about how dumb of an idea it was, or the fact that this is going to make him look even more the fool, had his secretary send it out to all the teams. Now the press has it, and I really don’t see how they’re going to get out of this debacle.

]]>By: brintfatrehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277891
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:00:17 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277891“This office in New York” are the key words in the statement. Giants and Jets will always get a free pass… any other team will be deal with strictly!
]]>By: tjstyleshttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277833
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:37:39 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277833deviantfate, it most certainly is fair to take a timeout away from them. There is a reason a team runs hurry-up offense; it makes it harder to defend. When the opposing team can slow down the pace of the hurry-up offense, it gives them an advantage. Timeouts are the tool given to defenses to do this, so if they stop play like that, they should have to give a timeout.

It sucks when a player gets injured. I like to see highly competitive games, so I like when everybody (including my opponents) are at full health. But, if someone gets injured, there should be something given to the other team when that injury interferes with their game strategy. It goes both ways; an injury on the offense should not give the offense time to get their play together beyond the play clock. If they don’t want to take timeouts away, then a 5-yard penalty would be fine, IMO. Delay of game is a delay of game, especially if it turns out that the player fakes the injury just to buy some time.

]]>By: artisan3mhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277786
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:08:49 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277786Seems to me that if fake injuries are part of the strategy, teams would be at least smart enough for it to be a DL or LB. You know, someone who might be actually hit during the course of the play. But I agree ~ this is just so much bluster from the league commissioner. He’s well known for that anyway.
]]>By: skinsrockhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277771
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:01:35 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277771Hey Mike… We don’t need no new stinking rules… I’m tired… Every time something happens in this world… Oh, now we need a new stinking rule…. I’m tired of everyone’s stinking rules… haha
]]>By: mornelithehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277770
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:01:32 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277770Brady actually spoke on this subject today at the Patriots press-conference. He said it doesn’t really concern him as he doesn’t want to risk taking the focus away from people who are truly injured. So, it’s basically something he’ll deal with when/if it should arise.

That having been said, it’s pretty sad that you’d have to fake an injury (be it the Patriots or not), because your D or O-line isn’t prepared enough to deal with no-huddle offense.

People who love to foam at the mouth over the whole ‘spygate’ thing, should certainly be just as vocal about this, since it is, for all intents and purposes, cheating.

]]>By: mogogo1http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277741
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:48:08 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277741How many sides of their mouth can the NFL talk out of at the same time? All you hear is “It’s all about preventing injuries” until suddenly it becomes “We’re going to fine you if we think you’re faking injuries.”

They already have lawsuits against them by former players about them not doing enough to prevent concussions and head injuries. I’m sure those lawyers would LOVE to be able to enter into evidence a current example of the NFL fining somebody for supposedly faking an injury, along with a doctor’s report about how the guy actually was hurt.

]]>By: patriotinvasionhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277722
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:39:12 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277722New York Giant-CHEATS! Obviously a systematic plan of cheating that definitely goes back to how they stopped the Patriots in Super Bowl XLII*…which now and forever will have an asterisk. It is TAINTED….the Giants are filthy CHEATERS led by Tom Coughcheat.

Pretty odd that they gave up 38 points 5 weeks prior and the only 14 in the Super Bowl. Injury faking CHEATERS!

Super Bowl XLII Champs*

Haha

]]>By: edgarpoe2http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277718
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:36:59 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277718Why are they sending this memo out now? wasn’t this already in the books?
]]>By: steelererhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277707
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:29:19 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277707Isn’t there a tampering story to investigate. This story is dead now
]]>By: simplesimon1http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277666
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:11:23 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277666Actually, you don’t need to penalize or make a team use a time out at all. It could easily be solved by doing the following.

Any player, and or players, that are “injured” during the game, whether real or not, have to sit out a minimum, predetermined amount of time much more serious than the “one play” as it now stands.

For example, if a player is injured, real or not, make the sit out last at least the following possession. Less people will hit the turf if they know they’re about to miss nearly a quarter of play for doing it.

]]>By: dienavinjohnsonhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277653
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:07:16 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277653The Patriots were victimized by this last week, at least twice. Of course, the Patriots’ own Willie McGinest pulled one of the all time great fake injuries against the Colts back in 2006. So they can’t be, and haven’t been, complaining.

If Bill “I Use My Post On The Competition Committee To Shepherd Rules Changes That Will Benefit The Colts” Polian didn’t get anything done about this after 2006, nobody will ever get it changed. I did hear one guy saying that they could change the rule on injuries to “you come out injured, you don’t get to go back in for the rest of that defensive series.” This would definitely deter a defense from faking injuries.

Perhaps they could reduce that to you can’t come back in for 4 plays. The fake injuries usually happen after a first down conversion and this would guarantee that an injured player have a least a set of downs to “recover” before going back in.

Of course, I’m referring to defensive injuries. Faked injuries are very rare on offense. Maybe you’re out of timeouts and want to give the FG team time to get on the field without rushing things. I can’t think of too many other scenarios where it’s an issue on offense.

]]>By: hoobsherhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277646
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:04:53 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277646have i mentioned i hate the giants?
]]>By: preludetosmackhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277643
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:04:07 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277643Man, we need the ability to edit. The 20 second runoff would be for players on offense.

The 5-yard delay of game penalty and automatic first down would be for an ‘injured’ player on defense.

]]>By: preludetosmackhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277624
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:58:35 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277624I should also add, if the injury occurs inside 2 minutes remaining in the game and the team has no remaining timeouts, a 20 second run-off will occur if the injured player is on offense, and a 5-yard delay of game penalty with automatic first-down will be enforced.
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Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:55:44 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277618The NFL needs to grant each team five injury timeouts per game. Once those are used up, then there should be a 15 yard penalty for the team with a hurt player to discourage unethical use of the timeouts. This penalty of 15 yards would not be assessed during a play where the injury was a result of a personal foul (noted by the yellow flag) by the other team.

The game should be stopped for injured players, but there must be an end of the games being played against teams with high powered offenses by defenses that are faking.

Rules for inside 2 minutes should continue – offense loses 10 seconds but should also lose a game injury timeout; defense should lose game injury timeout AND be penalized 5 yards and an immediate clock stoppage as if the offense had called a timeout with clock resuming when the ball is hiked. Again, any injury resulting from a flagged offense of personal foul shall not be counted in the under 2 minute period of each half or overtime period.

]]>By: quiettexanhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277614
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:55:05 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277614i think if it becomes a problem you make a rule that if a player goes out with an injury he has to stay out for the rest of that teams series (offense or defense)

that’ll slow it down…

]]>By: mike83rihttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277612
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:54:39 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277612You’d have to think the threat of getting suspended or losing draft picks will at least make teams consider pulling back on it.
]]>By: kevpfthttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277611
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:54:17 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277611I wonder how the use of soccer’s “injury time” concept would affect the play of NFL games. When a soccer player is injured (or there are other similar delays), the delay time is tracked and a comparable amount of time is added on at the end of the match, and play continues straight through the end of regulation until that extra time is used up.

I can see pros and cons for that in football, which, as a one-play-at-a-time sport, is a bit different. Wonder what anyone else thinks of the idea.

Currently if a player is ‘injured’ on a play they have to sit out at least one play before re-entering the game.

That’s not enough of a detriment to keep some who needs a break (or who knows 3 of his brothers in battle need breaks) from taking a dive… they’re doing it either because they need to regroup or need a rest… That’s exactly what is granted via a fake injury.

Instead, increase the ‘consequences’ for getting injured to missing the remainder of the quarter OR 5 minutes of game time, whichever is GREATER.

If the injury occurs within the final two minutes of the game, the player may not re-enter the game AND the team will be charged a timeout.

You will not see so many cramps, tweaked ankles, or other unverifable injuries when a player must miss a significant portion of the game.

However trainers failed to mention that they were MENSTRUAL CRAMPS, because that was the biggest P*SSY MOVE I’ve ever seen.

]]>By: gcsukhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277563
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:37:13 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277563Enough. Stop. Please. No more. Can we put this “story” to rest?
]]>By: 4cmncentshttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277560
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:36:58 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277560The best way to stop the faking of injuries is to require the injured player to sit out 5 minutes of game time. If it is a true injury – no team penalty. If it is fake- the team is down one player.
]]>By: bullchargerhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277552
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:34:56 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277552It’s impossible to stop faking of injuries. It’s entirely possible someone could cramp up and entirely possible they could come back on the next play. If players fake an injury on their own and not via direction from coaches there is no way to know if it is fake or real unless they admit it.

It’s just smart to use that tactic once in a while… The Giants are just fools for making it so obvious.

As a Patriots fan, it’s great news that the league is scaring teams away from faking injuries since it looks like Brady and Belichick want to run the no-huddle on every possession.

]]>By: naeem42http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277549
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:33:50 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277549Fake injuries are the most overblown non story of this season.
]]>By: 1captain1http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277546
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:32:22 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277546Fake injuries are jsut part of the game and ALWAYS have been.
]]>By: Shttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/nfl-huffs-puffs-regarding-fake-injuries/#comment-1277542
Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:30:23 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=156022#comment-1277542I’m sure that when the league sent around a memo to the teams telling them not to video tape opposing teams signals everyone laughed it off too. After all, every one knew that every one was doing it…

$750k in fines and the loss of a first round draft pick seems to have ended that practice rather quickly. And if I recall correctly the existence of the said memo being sent around was used to justify the fine and loss of pick as a penalty.

Perhaps the league is sending the memo around and will use it to make an example out of a team for fake injuries?