This week’s Conversation That Matters features Markham Hislop, who has turned his full attention to the energy transition under way in Western Canada and globally.

He considers being called "the man in the middle of the road" a compliment. He believes the climate debate is settled, that the energy transition started 10-15 years ago, and the global economy is slowly adopting the clean energy tech needed to wean ourselves off fossil fuels, he contends it will take the rest of the century to do it.

But Mr. Hislop worries that clean energy boosters are getting too far ahead of the technology. He expects oil and gas will compete with renewables for many decades before finally losing the battle for marketshare.

Interestingly - he says BC is moving too fast and Alberta is moving too slow. He says both provinces need to align their objectives and stop going head to head. To talk about the largest energy revolution since the introduction of electricity, we sat down with Markham Hislop, for a Conversation That Matters.

Conversations That Matter is a partner program with the Centre for Dialogue at Simon Fraser University. Join veteran Broadcaster Stuart McNish each week for these important and engaging Conversations shaping our future.