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Jaasce의 댓글

Vhye의 댓글

Still likely never using this as a BrM. It's a bad talent as it is. How about have it proc Guard for 50% normal effect?

Emmetcullen의 댓글

on 2019-05-24T15:15:09-05:00

Vengence DH?

Segano의 댓글

on 2019-05-24T15:15:32-05:00

Oh nice, now I can have a pet randomly pop up to taunt mobs keep them stuck to that location so they can get healed by Sanguine or ignored by melee as I advance on to the next pack.\r\rRandom taunting mobs = annoying on trash mobs and absolutely WORTHLESS on boss mobs. Might as well just use a DPS essence which will do more damage than a @#$%ty Ox pet.\r\rThe good news is that this Essence is perfectly showcasing how bad ALL of our CD abilities are as BrMs.

Segano의 댓글

on 2019-05-24T15:17:25-05:00

Poor Veng and Blood.\r\rWatchumean? Meta for Veng is pretty dang good now.

Jaasce의 댓글

on 2019-05-24T15:18:35-05:00

Poor Veng and Blood.

Watchumean? Meta for Veng is pretty dang good now.

Random tanking CD procs are bad, which is why these were changed. Veng has no DPS CD.

I personally think Meta post-buff is lackluster since it assumes you don't have Fracture and Spirit Bomb (which you should). It makes Shear generate enough pain and souls for a 2 soul Soul Cleave but leaves Fracture\/SpB users with an awkward 3 souls. If Fracture generated 4 souls in meta it would be actually pretty sweet. Fracture - Bomb - Fracture - Bomb etc, but with 3 you either bomb at 3 which is generally considered unoptimal or Fracture twice to generate 6 souls, wasting one and being sat at like 60 pain immediately and having to dump with Soul Cleave. It's not great.

orionaegis7의 댓글

on 2019-05-24T15:20:29-05:00

Oh nice, now I can have a pet randomly pop up to taunt mobs keep them stuck to that location so they can get healed by Sanguine or ignored by melee as I advance on to the next pack.\r\rRandom taunting mobs = annoying on trash mobs and absolutely WORTHLESS on boss mobs. Might as well just use a DPS essence which will do more damage than a @#$%ty Ox pet.\r\rThe good news is that this Essence is perfectly showcasing how bad ALL of our CD abilities are as BrMs.\r\rYou can disable the Taunt

Keasan의 댓글

on 2019-05-24T15:25:07-05:00

Poor Veng and Blood.\r\rWatchumean? Meta for Veng is pretty dang good now.\r\rRandom tanking CD procs are bad, which is why these were changed. Veng has no DPS CD.\r\r I won't argue the effectiveness of Meta, I personally think it's lackluster since it assumes you don't have Fracture and Spirit Bomb (which you should). It makes Shear generate enough pain and souls for a 2 soul Soul Cleave but leaves Fracture\/SpB users with an awkward 3 souls.\r\rHonestly these were bad for the tanking specs in general, and I don't think the major essence is going to see any use for Brew now (because random TAUNTING procs are worse than tanking cd procs), especially when a fair share of brews don't even use Niuzao in content.\r\rI see what you mean (Veng needs a dps cd, really), but overall this entire essence feels useless from a major standpoint. Minor essences are good for this at least.

Segano의 댓글

on 2019-05-24T15:25:23-05:00

Poor Veng and Blood.\r\rWatchumean? Meta for Veng is pretty dang good now.\r\rRandom tanking CD procs are bad, which is why these were changed. Veng has no DPS CD.\r\r I won't argue the effectiveness of Meta, I personally think the buff is lackluster since it assumes you don't have Fracture and Spirit Bomb (which you should). It makes Shear generate enough pain and souls for a 2 soul Soul Cleave but leaves Fracture\/SpB users with an awkward 3 souls.\r\rNah, Meta in 8.2 will also be a DPS and self sustain buff so long as you still using Fracture and SB. With Meta up you use 1 Fracture and it'll give you 3 Frags and 45 Pain which means you can just spam Fracture --> SB indefinitely until Meta is down and boost your damage\/healing.

Jaasce의 댓글

on 2019-05-24T15:27:10-05:00

Honestly these were bad for the tanking specs in general, and I don't think the major essence is going to see any use for Brew now (because random TAUNTING procs are worse than tanking cd procs), especially when a fair share of brews don't even use Niuzao in content.

I see what you mean (Veng needs a dps cd, really), but overall this entire essence feels useless from a major standpoint. Minor essences are good for this at least.

We had Fiery Demise as an artifact trait in Legion which was great for ST burst, but that was ripped away, nerfed to uselessness and slapped onto the talent tree as Charred Flesh. Nothing now.

I think the Vision will be great for Prot Paladins and Warriors (especially since, last I checked it procced stuff like Avenger's Might, Bastion of Might and Righteous Conviction) and maybe Guardians now but Blood, Veng, and BrM really got the meh end of it.

Nohana의 댓글

on 2019-05-24T15:50:32-05:00

\r\rHonestly these were bad for the tanking specs in general, and I don't think the major essence is going to see any use for Brew now (because random TAUNTING procs are worse than tanking cd procs), especially when a fair share of brews don't even use Niuzao in content.\r\rI see what you mean (Veng needs a dps cd, really), but overall this entire essence feels useless from a major standpoint. Minor essences are good for this at least.\r\rWe had Fiery Demise as an artifact trait in Legion which was great for ST burst, but that was ripped away, nerfed to uselessness and slapped onto the talent tree as Charred Flesh. Nothing now.\r\rI think the Vision will be great for Prot Paladins and Warriors (especially since, last I checked it procced stuff like Avenger's Might, Bastion of Might and Righteous Conviction) and maybe Guardians now but Blood, Veng, and BrM really got the meh end of it.\r\rAlso, Fiery Brand is on gcd now. How sweet.

Redron의 댓글

on 2019-05-24T19:41:47-05:00

Incarntaion is very solid defensive cooldown if used with earthwarden talent. Depending of how often it will proc, it will be either overpovered as hell or completely useless.

sinangelus의 댓글

on 2019-05-25T02:09:07-05:00

Damn, dks getting short end of the stick again... Vampiric Blood proc is much worse than Survival Instict \/ Fortifying Brew and they're still stuck with that? VB is 50% worse than in Legion due to losing all the artifact traits and also every other tank gets some form of dps cd (especially Warriors with extra Avatar uptime will be happy), while DKs are stuck with the worst option after Meta was buffed for DHs.

Kaleneastwald의 댓글

on 2019-05-25T09:39:00-05:00

I'm looking forward to testing it, especially since brewmaster aoe is slightly lackluster. It will be a welcome addition to m+ if its good, but for raiding the minor is better tobuse than the random pet.

hotaru251의 댓글

on 2019-05-25T09:42:11-05:00

Damn, dks getting short end of the stick again... Vampiric Blood proc is much worse than Survival Instict \/ Fortifying Brew and they're still stuck with that? VB is 50% worse than in Legion due to losing all the artifact traits and also every other tank gets some form of dps cd (especially Warriors with extra Avatar uptime will be happy), while DKs are stuck with the worst option after Meta was buffed for DHs.\r\rDK have been #1 or #2 tank during entire xpac so far....they can afford to not ALWAYS get the best buff :|

Ozzcar의 댓글

on 2019-05-25T20:57:25-05:00

If you are running with a pet class that is taunting in a dungeon or raid, then kick them. Taunt is automatically turned off by Blizzard with you enter an instance. So if a pet is taunting it is because the player told it to.