Removals & Warnings

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I really didn't like how Terry was essentially Bruce Wayne's son. I understand, it's what Cadmus does and all, but the whole thing just seemed unnecessary. I already liked Terry's character. He was very likeable, selfless, tough, but still a very different character than Bruce. Up until the epilogue, the only thing that really connected the two was that they lost their parent(s) which built up a strong desire to rid the city of crime. Terry was his own person, and he didn't need to be linked to Bruce in anyway other than that to be able to have this desire. I like the idea of there being other good people in the world like Bruce Wayne, that would sacrifice themselves for the greater good. What the epilogue essentially did was say, "Screw that, he has to be related to Bruce to be a guy with no powers and want to fight crime." We didn't NEED that biological connection. They already had a strong bond.

Also, I just didn't like how they changed his appearance. He was much more likeable as a skinnier dude. I understand that he's aged and all but it didn't need to be that drastic.

Also, also, it seems like that at the end, when Terry accepts Bruce as his real dad, he completely forgets the man that had been in his life up until the point he was killed.

Also, also, also, there were just too many variables in whether Terry, with his different upbringing, would even seek out to become Batman. I doubt Cadmus truly had that foresight.

Agreed, 100%. I don't understand why they did this. To please fans who said Terry wasn't worthy of being Batman? Lord knows there were plenty of them... I dunno why they did it, but I totally agree with everything you said. It pretty much nullified everything that the show had been building for three seasons.

Maybe it could have worked better as a two-parter, or a movie, but as it stands, it kind of felt like every single scene was taking a dump on the show. It bugs me that so many people like it, but I don't get the right to hate on people for their opinion. I can, however, up vote you for having the right opinion.

Even with the black and white, you can tell this is the really early (first?) batsuit, with wide ears and the purple spikeless gloves. I think it's a nice touch to not save him, but then imply he'll come back with that generic old school "death".

And yeah, I know it's the 1939 Batman, but I still expected the animator to do it considering the current image they have for him. I know this is supposed to be a homage to 75 years of Batman, but still.

Well, one of the oldest ways for recurring villains to escape to scheme another day is for the hero to see them presumably die. Batman even says it's only over "for now" indicating he doesn't think Strange is dead. This might be a nod to that very old trope.

The modern Batman only pretends to have that rule. Chances are quite a few criminals die from injuries sustained in fights against the Batman. Broken bones, blood clots, blunt force trauma, brain injuries, fall injuries, all of which can be fatal.

Well, in a way the modern Batman is crueler than his Silver Age version. A person can die of a gunshot wound pretty quick, while a person who is severely beaten can anguish in pain for days or weeks before finally dying.

EDIT: I loved the old school tv show on WB and this definitely kicked in a nostalgia feeling, watching Saturday morning cartoons with a fuzzy television. Trying to see the dark cartoon with the glare of the sun beaming off of it.

Also in case you don't already know Bruce Timm the guy who made this short was the guy behind almost everything DC animated for the last 20 years so if your interested in other DC super heroes definitely check his other work out.

So much Timm quality in such a nice little package, with a dash of Conroy at the end to make it perfect. It makes me sad considering how shit shit shitty the character designs from the past few animated movies have been.

This was amazing. How cool would it be if we got a new batman series, in noir setting, from around the era batman was created. And ofc having Kevin Conroy, Mark Hamill back for the voices, and Bruce timm for his amazing animations.

that kinda sucked. so out of ALL of his utility belt and skills he chooses a rock and a big stick as a weapon? kinda doesn't make much sense. if i had to pick a batman short to show someone i would pick The Dark Knight Returns segment from the New Adventures of Batman and Robin Series, the episode called Legends of the dark knight.

Keep in mind that the Dark Knight Returns is one of the best batman stories out there, but on top of that in 2012, DC finally got around to Animating it, in two direct to video releases. its fun to see the two takes on the same source material, because to me both nail it.

Batman did used to use a lot of smoke screening when he was either entering or leaving a fight.

He did not kill Strange. It's that old time trope of "If you don't see them actually die, they didn't die." It's even strongly hinted at by Batman saying "It's over, For now.." Meaning Strange is not dead.

That was not Grundy, that was Hugo Strange's Monster Man. (Though they look similar, so I understand the confusion.)

This was not something Timm came up with, it's actually one of the lost stories of Batman from the 30's. Which Timm upheld the look, feel, and old tropes of that era amazingly well.

You obviously really don't know the old tropes then. No, Strange isn't dead. We didn't see him die. We saw him fall off a cliff yes.. but as the trope goes, if you don't see them actually die.. as in no body.. no seeing them land in a broken heap.. he's not dead.

Batman used to use guns.. a long ass time ago. Again, this was circa 1930's when this short takes place. That's the era Batman actually used guns. Including the smokescreen/tear gas type.

And I can't help you if you can't accept that monster being one of Dr. Strange's.. that's your issue.