The wife bought the pile driver - she likes it. Needed to replace the stock cooler but other than that - zero complaints. Games on it quite frequently - I will see if she will bench it against my i7 and see what happens with Crysis 2.

It's not even worth discussing this review. All the independent reviewers including the most knowledgeable (AnandTech, Tech Report, etc) have repeatedly and uniformly demonstrated that Ivy Bridge just trounces Vishera in games, as well as any application where single-threaded performance matters. Heck, Vishera fails to beat the ancient Phenom II in many tests. It's not necessarily a bad value, but trying to claim that it's faster than the i5 3570K in games will take a lot more convincing than that.

If all those "paid" Website really pushed down AMD to make Intel shine brighter, I think AMD would have done something about it.

So, is AMD being stupid for not doing anything or is it a fact that Intel i5 is (quite) faster, that is the question.... But I think I'm going to keep on reading AnandTech or TomsHardware for my CPU info...

AMD is pretty awesome. But Intel is the best. All processors Intel makes now are fast, and stable. I'm a person who has a Celeron processor in my laptop, yet it should have a i3 at least as my laptop was made in 2011...

It's not even worth discussing this review. All the independent reviewers including the most knowledgeable (AnandTech, Tech Report, etc) have repeatedly and uniformly demonstrated that Ivy Bridge just trounces Vishera in games, as well as any application where single-threaded performance matters. Heck, Vishera fails to beat the ancient Phenom II in many tests. It's not necessarily a bad value, but trying to claim that it's faster than the i5 3570K in games will take a lot more convincing than that.

If all those "paid" Website really pushed down AMD to make Intel shine brighter, I think AMD would have done something about it.

So, is AMD being stupid for not doing anything or is it a fact that Intel i5 is (quite) faster, that is the question.... But I think I'm going to keep on reading AnandTech or TomsHardware for my CPU info...

Well, I personally love AMD. If I had the cash, I would build a system with the Vishera and an i7 system and do my own benchmarks. But even though I'm an AMD lover, to this day, I have not seen and AMD out perform an i7 in any benchmarks.

I'm pretty sure this guy is only testing the integrated gpu on the respective chips. Any serious gamer would have a discrete card, making this review irrelevant to most people. On the CPU side, the intel solution trounces. No fanboyism, just facts.

I'm pretty sure this guy is only testing the integrated gpu on the respective chips. Any serious gamer would have a discrete card, making this review irrelevant to most people. On the CPU side, the intel solution trounces. No fanboyism, just facts.

Nope. He says multiple times he's using a Radeon 7870.

Though I think some of these results are a bit weird, as I get slightly higher framerates in metro 2033 with my weaker gtx 660 and first gen i7.