and imo he fells more like Neymar, but its only minor changes, and about Pedala's suggetions, i dont think TS/ACC 89/93 or 90/92 will be so different, so i'll test it, but comparing with pato i could agree.

Was really skeptical of an 18 year old being this good. Figured the brazilian mods over rate their talents. Been hard to get matches.. but I got two or three and after seeing him live today he looks very well rated. Really good stats, I have total faith in all the young Brazilians with world class stats being rated well now. Like ganso/neymar/hernanes etc after witnessing hernanes and neymar alot more (both who I thought were over rated) doesn't matter that they don't play in europe, their abilities are undeniable. I think you should restore ganso's passing values to what they were originaly. I belive you rated him correctly and he was nerfed unfairly.

jurgens wrote:Was really skeptical of an 18 year old being this good. Figured the brazilian mods over rate their talents. Been hard to get matches.. but I got two or three and after seeing him live today he looks very well rated. Really good stats, I have total faith in all the young Brazilians with world class stats being rated well now. Like ganso/neymar/hernanes etc after witnessing hernanes and neymar alot more (both who I thought were over rated) doesn't matter that they don't play in europe, their abilities are undeniable. I think you should restore ganso's passing values to what they were originaly. I belive you rated him correctly and he was nerfed unfairly.

It takes a lot of class to admit you were wrong. I applaud you for this, Jurgens. You've got my respect for that.

Actually i'd raise his DA to 90. There's not many players in the world, no matter the age or the league, that can control the ball like Neymar does. He is nothing short to players like Quaresma, and probably Robinho too, in DA.

I'm not disagreeing, but I think it's too early to give him a value over Aguero, so close to Robinho yet... I mean, I'm not denying his amazing skills with the ball. I just think he's more of a agile/explose player than a player who dissaseamble defences with JUST close control. I still see Robinho really over him on this aspect. At most, I would agree with a 89 for now, but it's just one point. On other hand, DS can be decreased by one point. I'm basically suggesting a switch on DA/DS.

I don't wanna sound like overconfident with the brazilian mods, but Brazil is the country that raised Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Romario, etc etc, just some classic names that everyone of us remembers and has seen, just not to go deeper with names from the 60s or the 70s, and my point is that brazilians know what they see & what they say coz all of these legends are seen in their first steps by these guys, before making history in some european club.

So these 2 mods along with the entire brazilian nation have to have some reason whatsoever to be so enthusiastic with Neymar and Ganso.

If some german, english, italian, etc player would be rated with these stats in this age , I'd make sure to see all of his matches to believe it, but when it comes to brazilians... It's a different matter.