Mosquitopilate wrote:but they are not going to mess this up by picking who gets the 10,000 tix

this will be my second year and i'd be much happier without the 10k tickets going to veterans. the veterans stand in the way the evolution of BM. so giving the tickets out selectively to these people is tampering with the natural process.

we only really need the paid staff out there to layout the city and put the portapotties in position and then clean everything up in the end.

this, is a little dissapointing............especially the last statement.

everything else is superfluous - except the Man, and i wouldn't mind seeing him back on blocks of hay. i've seen pics from back the man-on-hay days and they looked cooler than putting him on a big tall structure. i say, get rid of the cranky more-burning-man-than-thou crowd - let them start their own festival. leave room for new blood. we'll make BM into what it's supposed to be NOW, not then. that's evolution.

the art installations are TOO BIG! everyone just stands in line and gawks at them. smaller is better. quality over quantity and mass.

and don't tell me about all the other essential needs that can only be met by veteran participants. those essential needs can be met by the new blood, or those services can be handled by professionals who should paid by the BMorg.

Mosquitopilate wrote:but they are not going to mess this up by picking who gets the 10,000 tix

this will be my second year and i'd be much happier without the 10k tickets going to veterans. the veterans stand in the way the evolution of BM. so giving the tickets out selectively to these people is tampering with the natural process.

we only really need the paid staff out there to layout the city and put the portapotties in position and then clean everything up in the end.

everything else is superfluous - except the Man, and i wouldn't mind seeing him back on blocks of hay. i've seen pics from back the man-on-hay days and they looked cooler than putting him on a big tall structure. i say, get rid of the cranky more-burning-man-than-thou crowd - let them start their own festival. leave room for new blood. we'll make BM into what it's supposed to be NOW, not then. that's evolution.

the art installations are TOO BIG! everyone just stands in line and gawks at them. smaller is better. quality over quantity and mass.

and don't tell me about all the other essential needs that can only be met by veteran participants. those essential needs can be met by the new blood, or those services can be handled by professionals who should paid by the BMorg.

it is us who build this city, and with your help, sustain it into the future.

we don't need your assistance.

if you get dosed and end up rolling around in the dust smearing feces all over yerself and throwing it at people while growling and mumbling about the unicorns and insisting that you want your blankie... hopefully you will remember this..

'dont need your assistance'

thankfully the veteran rangers will be there to drag you out of that particular level of hell!!

Roberto Dobbisano wrote:where you are supposed to clean up your OWN mouse shit, not the paid professionals...

the veterans are some of the worst moop offenders. especially those ridiculously large esplanade camps that are responsible for tons of moop. there will always be moop no matter what, and there is a simple process of paying people to clean it up.

oh, that old tale. if the heat doesn't get you then the many thousands of people running around dosing people with spray bottles will.

i'll be sure to bring my little covered safety-cup with me everywhere i go. i'll also be sure to run away from any single males as they are all obvious predators that i need to be protected from by the wise and powerful veterans... oh, but most of you didn't get tickets this year. boo hoo. what will i ever do without you?

I am glad you have a lot of enthusiasm after your first year. Please understand that running this event is not as simple as marking the streets, placing potties, and cleaning up at the end. There is so much more to it....

Tell you what, volunteer with a department this year. Any of them. Maybe more than one. Put in some work during the event, and then come tell everyone here how simple it it.

Because at this point, your lack of knowledge is showing through like a turd in a punchbowl.

M*A*S*H 4207th: An army of fun.I don't care what the borg says: feather-wearers will NOT be served in Rosie's Bar.When I ask how many burns, I mean at BRC.

Roberto Dobbisano wrote:where you are supposed to clean up your OWN mouse shit, not the paid professionals...

the veterans are some of the worst moop offenders. especially those ridiculously large esplanade camps that are responsible for tons of moop. there will always be moop no matter what, and there is a simple process of paying people to clean it up.

gotta be a sock.........no, no really.......no one who's read anything about TTITD, would be this "trollish"..............

and, if as stated you are a guy, I'd suggest you calm down, and do some reading and learning. Maybe, to out in the jack yard, and back off for a while, until you understand.

you don't have to believe me that the problem with burning man is the veterans.

BMorg has basically laid it out for you: 40% of tickets went to virgins and that was no accident. and you can be sure that about 40% went to 2nd and 3rd participants - also no accident. that's why so many veteran theme camps are crying that they don't have tickets - it's because the BMorg doesn't really want you guys there. theme camps, seriously? i'd have to be a member of most of these camps to even try to decipher what their special themes are. it's basically: "our theme this year is a geo dome with couches and a bar." the art cars for the most part are seriously hazardous. do we really need another school bus with a deck welded on top?

glitter-mouse wrote:you don't have to believe me that the problem with burning man is the veterans.

BMorg has basically laid it out for you: 40% of tickets went to virgins and that was no accident. and you can be sure that about 40% went to 2nd and 3rd participants - also no accident. that's why so many veteran theme camps are crying that they don't have tickets - it's because the BMorg doesn't really want you guys there. theme camps, seriously? i'd have to be a member of most of these camps to even try to decipher what their special themes are. it's basically: "our theme this year is a geo dome with couches and a bar." the art cars for the most part are seriously hazardous. do we really need another school bus with a deck welded on top?

glitter-mouse wrote:this will be my second year and i'd be much happier without the 10k tickets going to veterans. the veterans stand in the way the evolution of BM. so giving the tickets out selectively to these people is tampering with the natural process.

we only really need the paid staff out there to layout the city and put the portapotties in position and then clean everything up in the end.

everything else is superfluous - except the Man, and i wouldn't mind seeing him back on blocks of hay. i've seen pics from back the man-on-hay days and they looked cooler than putting him on a big tall structure. i say, get rid of the cranky more-burning-man-than-thou crowd - let them start their own festival. leave room for new blood. we'll make BM into what it's supposed to be NOW, not then. that's evolution.

we? *gulp* Honestly, as a fairly new burner, I wouldn't go to a burning man run by newbies (such as you and I).

glitter-mouse wrote:the art installations are TOO BIG! everyone just stands in line and gawks at them. smaller is better. quality over quantity and mass.

"everyone just stands in line and gawks at them" - Isn't that the point?Really!!? If you went to burning man last year and you saw art work like Charon, this statement is clearly a joke.

glitter-mouse wrote:and don't tell me about all the other essential needs that can only be met by veteran participants. those essential needs can be met by the new blood, or those services can be handled by professionals who should paid by the BMorg.

Come and talk to me when you build a stylish 3rd storey shower where I could shower while viewing the entire BRC.

glitter-mouse wrote:fewer veterans and their egos out there is all for the better.