Post by simple45 on Aug 6, 2019 12:12:37 GMT -5

Does anyone have experience with a Burris scout scope? Looking at a used Ruger scout rifle that has the 2-7 Burris scout scope installed but have never used one or seen one before. The price is basically the value of the gun so I wouldn’t be paying much if anything for the scope. Thanks

Post by bigbrowndog on Aug 6, 2019 12:23:42 GMT -5

The scout scope is a virtual twin to the 2-7x pistol scope, I’ve had good success with the pistol scope. Retaining zero, field of view, and clarity. The only scout scopes I’ve used is the 2x - 2.5x versions and they do an admirable job, however for me they tend to lack problem solving ability due to lack of magnification. They are slightly better than a red dot or 1x optic.

Post by simple45 on Aug 6, 2019 12:46:07 GMT -5

The scout scope is a virtual twin to the 2-7x pistol scope, I’ve had good success with the pistol scope. Retaining zero, field of view, and clarity. The only scout scopes I’ve used is the 2x - 2.5x versions and they do an admirable job, however for me they tend to lack problem solving ability due to lack of magnification. They are slightly better than a red dot or 1x optic.

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Thankyou. I’ve held and shouldered a rifle with a fixed power 2.5x scope and past close ranges could see its weakness but it was a nice setup. . This is the 2-7x version so I’m thinking it would have more abilities. just looking for a light handie rifle to keep close for general use across a wide range of distances.

Post by magnumwheelman on Aug 6, 2019 13:12:57 GMT -5

I've not had a Burris Scout scope, but I do have a boat load of Burris scopes, including several of the 2-7 X handgun scopes... IMO, they are of equal quality to Luepold... I will make one negative comment, & that is that Burris scopes seem to have a more critical eye relief than a lot of other brands, particularly on the higher magnifications... the 3 X 9 handgun scope is down right difficult to use on 9X...

if you can get a good view with the scope on 7X ( I recommend you adjust the eye relief of the scope on the rifle, on 7X ) then the scope will give you a wonderful lifetime of shooting...

Post by simple45 on Aug 6, 2019 13:20:52 GMT -5

I've not had a Burris Scout scope, but I do have a boat load of Burris scopes, including several of the 2-7 X handgun scopes... IMO, they are of equal quality to Luepold... I will make one negative comment, & that is that Burris scopes seem to have a more critical eye relief than a lot of other brands, particularly on the higher magnifications... the 3 X 9 handgun scope is down right difficult to use on 9X...

if you can get a good view with the scope on 7X ( I recommend you adjust the eye relief of the scope on the rifle, on 7X ) then the scope will give you a wonderful lifetime of shooting...

Thankyou. That’s the kind of input I’m looking for. There’s another identical rifle for sale similar price with a Leopold 2x scope forward mounted and it’s the one I got to hold. The one with the Burris interested me because of the ability to zoom instead of the one with the fixed scope.

Post by bigbrowndog on Aug 6, 2019 19:37:38 GMT -5

I’ve got both a ?Burris and Leupold on Marlins, 336 Texan wears Burris and 1895 wears Leupold, the reticle in the Leupold is the heavy duplex and I’ve shot pigs with no illumination on full moon nights. The Small magnification Scout scopes seem perfectly at home on lever guns to me.

Post by bradshaw on Aug 10, 2019 11:21:12 GMT -5

Does anyone have experience with a Burris scout scope? Looking at a used Ruger scout rifle that has the 2-7 Burris scout scope installed but have never used one or seen one before. The price is basically the value of the gun so I wouldn’t be paying much if anything for the scope. Thanks

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I’ve had the Burris Scout IER (Intermediate Eye Relief) 3-3/4X on a variety of carbines, including but not limited to Remington M6 pump .308 Win with 16.8-inch barrel, and T/C Renegade .54. I prefer the original Leupold 2x19mm IER. 2X is about the upper limit for speed on moving targets in the woods. The Leupold 2x19mm IER was developed for the Winchester Model 94, which has top ejection. To my knowledge the Leupold 2x19mm predates Jeff Cooper coining the term “Scout Scope,” an appealing name which stuck.

Leupold’s German Number 1 reticle (picket fence post) is thicker than the Burris German #1, making the Burris somewhat more precise. A Duplex reticle is more versatile, and I believe gives up nothing in the way of speed, while contributing precision.

The IER scope works fast during daylight. It surrenders light transmission at dusk, making it a poor sight for stand hunting. My old Burris is plenty precise for its magnification, but hands down I prefer the Leupold 2x19mm IER .David Bradshaw

Post by potatojudge on Aug 10, 2019 11:43:36 GMT -5

Does anyone have experience with a Burris scout scope? Looking at a used Ruger scout rifle that has the 2-7 Burris scout scope installed but have never used one or seen one before. The price is basically the value of the gun so I wouldn’t be paying much if any

The IER scope works fast during daylight. It surrenders light transmission at dusk, making it a poor sight for stand hunting. My old Burris is plenty precise for its magnification, but hands down I prefer the Leupold 2x19mm IER .David Bradshaw

This has been my experience as well. I don't think it's so much the quality of the glass and it's light transmission, but the fact that your pupils are dilated for the ambient light and not the light that the scope presents. With rifle scopes, you get the best of light transmission with a good scope plus your pupils optimize for that image.

I discovered this trying to hunt first with a K31 using a handgun scope mounted to the rear sight platform and have found the same to hold true handgun hunting. So, a huge step above irons at dusk, an improvement over red dots and reflex sights, but falls short of a nice rifle scope.

I'm not one to claim 1 MOA groups with a 2x scope, but for 100-150 yard hunting 4-6x is plenty good enough for deer and pigs. That Burris scope should have you covered to the degree possible with the scout setup.

Post by edk on Aug 10, 2019 20:56:41 GMT -5

Didn't think Burris ever made anything in the way of a scout scope that ran up to 7 power. That conflicts with the both eyes open scout concept at a typical 2.5 power - plus as has been mentioned Burris variable scopes tend to have eye relief issues at the upper end of range. Hard to imagine that is even compatible with the forward mounted scout setup.

Post by bradshaw on Aug 11, 2019 9:31:16 GMT -5

My preference for the old .30-30 Intermediate Eye Relief Leupod 2x19mm is based on lower power than the Burris 2-3/4x. As those who use IER scopes know, the lower light transmission limits applications for the scope. And the farther the ocular lens is spaced from the eye, the harder it is to see the target as light fades. Some of the European scopes----very high dollar units with superb glass----have un-usably short eye relief to protect the shooter from a Weatherby Eyebrow. Note also, superior light transmission offered by great glass and a large objective lens is further enhanced by minimizing distance from eye-to-ocular.

The IER or scout scope provides for speed and maximum protection from Weatherby Eyebrow----at very low magnification----but we pay for it with shriveled field of view, poor low-light performance, and the utter absence of middle & high range magnification. These are criteria in scope selection which must be sorted out.

UNITY MAGNIFICATION (1x, or zero magnification) provides the fastest sight acquisition of all, with infinite eye relief. Unity magnification is the fastest on moving targets. Nor does 1x torque your brain out of shape trying to dovetail the image inside the scope with nature outside the scope.David Bradshaw

Post by smirker on Aug 11, 2019 14:19:20 GMT -5

Good topic! I am researhing the scout scope market myself. Recently got a 18in. stainless GSR. Leupold has a new scout scope with a illuminated retecle. Heavy and the eye relief makes it a intermediate relief scope. Other than the low powered LER scopes that pretty much leaves the Burris and the Vortex. I will probably go with the Burris because of my history with Burris and the reputation that this scope has gained in actual use.Just my 2 cents.....

Post by foxtrapper on Aug 11, 2019 18:10:00 GMT -5

Didn't think Burris ever made anything in the way of a scout scope that ran up to 7 power. That conflicts with the both eyes open scout concept at a typical 2.5 power - plus as has been mentioned Burris variable scopes tend to have eye relief issues at the upper end of range. Hard to imagine that is even compatible with the forward mounted scout setup.

Post by rjm52 on Aug 12, 2019 4:26:23 GMT -5

I have or had that scope on several Scout rifles including a 19" Ruger GSR. Most of mine have the BallisticPlex reticle and hits out to 600 yards are easy. I usually only used it on two powers, 2 and 7. 2X for carrying around and close range shooting and 7X for anything from a supported position.

Only reason they are off most of my rifles right now is that I have a deep cataract in my right eye and can't get a clear focus on the reticle. Once that is corrected they will go back on...

Found the 2.5 Leupold and 2.75 Burris scout scopes way too limiting when trying to hit targets over 100 yards...great for up close but since the 2-7 has just as wide a field of view on 2X and the ability to hit small targets way far away why limit oneself if the rifle is capable of long range hits.

I do have the original 1960s vintage Leupold M8-2X scope on a Remington .308 scout rifle and two Marlin lever guns... Much lighter and more compact that the current scout scope...

Bob

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