Do you think he actually gets support for people who gets behind? I mean an amount that can really make a difference?

Drama Queenie wrote:You are a chauvinist of the quaintest kind. About as threatening as Jack Duckworth, you are a harmless relic of that cherished era when things were 'different'. Now get back to drawing a moustache on that page three model

Copehead wrote:The idea that labour voters went to UKIP is a myth, like Labour voters voting leave.

You get more ridiculous by the minute.... Your insistance that no Labour voters were in favour of leaving the EU, and that not a single one voted UKIP at the last election is admirable in its stubborness, but completely wrong. You have lost any grip you had on reality, and and now you do little more than howl at the moon.

It is all a but sad.

And of course Copehead continues to ignore these two inconvenient realities:

1. It was the Conservatives under Edward Heath who first led the U.K. into the Common Market in 1973.

Wikipedia wrote:The Labour Party had historically feared the consequences of EEC membership, such as the large differentials between the high price of food under the Common Agricultural Policy and the low prices prevalent in Commonwealth markets, as well as the loss of economic sovereignty and the freedom of governments to engage in socialist industrial policies,

The Labour Party campaigned against the deal in the general elections of 1974.

2. The Conservative Party campaigned to stay in the recent referendum. Conservative leader David Cameron chose to resign rather than negotiate the United Kingdom's withdrawal from the E.U. Meanwhile Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn was diffident about staying in the E.U. and had only provided the remain side with lacklustre support.

The only Labour party manifesto pledge regarding the EEC in 1974 was for a referendum during which MPs were given a free vote.

THE COMMON MARKET

Our genuine concern for democratic rights is in sharp contrast to the Tory attitude. In the greatest single peacetime decision of this century - Britain's membership of the Common Market - the British people were not given a chance to say whether or not they agreed to the terms accepted by the Tory Government. Both the Conservatives and the Liberals have refused to endorse the rights of our people to make their own decision. Only the Labour Party is committed to the right of the men and women of this country to make this unique decision.

The Labour Government pledges that within twelve months of this election we will give the British people the final say, which will be binding on the Government - through the ballot box - on whether we accept the terms and stay in or reject the terms and come out.

Labour is an internationalist party and Britain is a European nation. But if the Common Market were to mean the creation of a new protectionist bloc, or if British membership threatened to impoverish our working people or to destroy the authority of Parliament, then Labour could not agree.

Within one month of coming into office the Labour Government started the negotiations promised in our February manifesto on the basis set out in that manifesto. It is as yet too early to judge the likely results of the tough negotiations which are taking place. But whatever the outcome in Brussels, the decision will be taken here by the British people.

Copehead wrote:The idea that labour voters went to UKIP is a myth, like Labour voters voting leave.

You get more ridiculous by the minute.... Your insistance that no Labour voters were in favour of leaving the EU, and that not a single one voted UKIP at the last election is admirable in its stubborness, but completely wrong. You have lost any grip you had on reality, and and now you do little more than howl at the moon.

It is all a but sad.

And of course Copehead continues to ignore these two inconvenient realities:

1. It was the Conservatives under Edward Heath who first led the U.K. into the Common Market in 1973.

Wikipedia wrote:The Labour Party had historically feared the consequences of EEC membership, such as the large differentials between the high price of food under the Common Agricultural Policy and the low prices prevalent in Commonwealth markets, as well as the loss of economic sovereignty and the freedom of governments to engage in socialist industrial policies,

The Labour Party campaigned against the deal in the general elections of 1974.

2. The Conservative Party campaigned to stay in the recent referendum. Conservative leader David Cameron chose to resign rather than negotiate the United Kingdom's withdrawal from the E.U. Meanwhile Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn was diffident about staying in the E.U. and had only provided the remain side with lacklustre support.

Can't see what is inconvenient about that.

The nature of Europe has changed dramatically over those 40 years to the point where roles are reversed and the Tories hate the EU and the Labour Party accept it because it is now a barrier against untrammelled, globalised business, which is why you, as a corporate fascist, dislike it.

40 years ago things like the Social Chapter did not exist, it isn't difficult to see why opinions have changed.

As Clive Lewis 'kind of' said. It's become a self fulfilling prophecy. If enough people are told time and time again that his name is "Beleaguered" Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn and he'll lose the next election ...then it becomes true. I seem to remember a lot of his new policies and initiatives went down quite well, but I am disappointed with his stance on the Brexit fiasco.

Rumours quashed as being untrue yesterday said that he'd set a date for his resignation. so...he's set a date for his resignation, then.