Many of those stallions that qualify as the best chefs of dams throughout their pedigree are medicore stallions. Thats what makes breeding the elusive champion a hole in one. Many are called but few are chosen.

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Fine work, Keith. Have to put the dogs out and go to bed. Let's compare double copies and reines for each. LDK and A.P.. Which, reines or double copies should be next in line in order of importance after number of SW in the first 4 generations. I vote reines but not strongly.

Pretty good, London, but both fall short in reines up close and double copy status. Both may end up with better reines up close as soon as Ellen Parker gets around to doing her research on them. A.P. is out of a double copy and by a sire whose mother was a double copy. No surprise that he has the second fastest Belmont of all time and is the sire of the only filly to have won the Belmont at it's current distance.

Good work, Keith. How do you come up with this stuff? Do you have another database other than this forum? A.P. Indy's fine son, Mineshaft has 3 reines up close and 6 out of the first 7 AND a total of 49 stales winners in the first 4 generations. Not quite as many double copies though.

know alot of influential mares and I use stud books, American Produce records and knowledge. Look at some of these very influential bloodlines

Hill Prince by Princequillo-Hildene by Bubbling Over
First Landing by Turn-to-Hildene by Bubbling Over
Satsuma by Bossuet-Hildene by Bubbling Over (dam of Cicada)
Secretariat by Bold Ruler-Somethingroyal by Princequillo
Sir Gaylord by Turn-to-Somethingroyal by Princequillo
Pleasant Tap by Pleasant Colony-Never Knock by Stage Door Johnny
Go For Gin by Cormorant-Never Knock by Stage Door Johnny
A.P. Indy by Seattle Slew-Weekend Surprise by Secretariat
Summer Squall by Storm Bird-Weekend Surprise by Secretariat
Honor Grades by Danzig-Weekend Surprise by Secretariat
Smart Strike by Mr. Prospector-Classy 'n Smart by Smarten
Dance Smartly by Danzig-Class 'n Smart by Smarten
Classy 'n Smart by Smarten-No Class by Nodouble
Regal Classic by Vice Regent-No Class by Nodouble
Sky Classic by Nijinsky II-No Class by Nodouble
Always a Classic by Deputy Minister-No Class by Nodouble
Banks Hill by Danehill-Hasili by Kahyasi
Intercontinental by Danehill-Hasili by Kahyasi
Cacique by Danehill-Hasili by Kahyasi
Dansili by Danehill-Hasili by Kahyasi
Champs Elysees by Danehill-Hasili by Kahyasi
Heat Haze by Green Desert-Hasili by Kahyasi
Devil's Bag by Halo-Ballade by Herbager
Saint Ballado by Halo-Ballade by Herbager
Glorious Song by Halo-Ballade by Herbager
Rahy by Blushing Groom-Glorious Song by Halo
Singspiel by In The Wings-Glorious Song by Halo
Street Cry by Machiavellian-Helen Street by Troy
Helsinki by Machiavellian-Helen Street by Troy (dam of Shamardal)
Pine Bluff by Danzig-Rowdy Angel by Halo
Demons Begone by Elocutionist-Rowdy Angel by Halo
Angel Fever by Danzig-Rowdy Angel by Halo (dam of Fusaichi Pegasus)
Never Bend by Nasrullah-Lalun by Djeddah
Bold Reason by Hail To Reason-Lalun by Djeddah
Hero's Honor by Northern Dancer-Glowing Tribute by Graustark
Wild Applause by Northern Dancer-Glowing Tribute by Graustark(dam of Eastern Echo and Roar)
Sea Hero by Polish Navy-Glowing Tribute by Graustark
Natalma by Native Dancer-Almahmoud by Mahmoud
Cosmah by Cosmic Bomb-Almahmoud by Mahmoud
Bubbling Beauty by Hasty Road-Almahmoud by Mahmoud
Northern Dancer by Nearctic-Natalma by Native Dancer
Raise The Standard by Hoist The Flag-Natalma by Native Dancer
Spring Adieu by Buckpasser-Natalma by Native Dancer
Arctic Dancer by Nearctic-Natalma by Native Dancer
Halo by Hail To Reason-Cosmah by Cosmic Bomb
Tosmah by Tim Tam-Cosmah by Cosmic Bomb
Queen Sucree by Ribot-Cosmah by Cosmic Bomb
Cannonade by Bold Bidder-Queen Sucree by Ribot
Kennelot by Gallant Man-Queen Sucree by Ribot

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