Sept. 11th

Never forget the Muslims that were blinded by hate, ignorance and stupidity that caused this, there’s a million more still out here. I hope we never again show the apathy and lack of foresight that aided our enemies in this attack.

“At 8:46 a.m. on the morning of September 11, 2001, American Airlines Flight 11 struck the North Tower of the World Trade Center (Tower 1). Rescorla heard the explosion and saw the tower burning from his office window in the 44th floor of the South Tower (Tower 2). When a Port Authority announcement came over the P.A. system urging people to stay at their desks, Rescorla ignored the announcement, grabbed his bullhorn, walkie-talkie, and cell phone, and began systematically ordering Morgan Stanley employees to evacuate, including the 1,000 employees in WTC 5. He directed people down a stairwell from the 44th floor, continuing to calm employees after the building lurched violently following the crash of United Airlines Flight 175 38 floors above into Tower 2 at 9:03 A.M. Morgan Stanley executive Bill McMahon stated that even a group of 250 people visiting the offices for a stockbroker training class knew what to do because they had been shown the nearest stairway.

Rescorla had boosted morale among his men in Vietnam by singing Cornish songs from his youth, and now he did the same in the stairwell, singing songs like one based on the Welsh song “Men of Harlech”:

“Men of Cornwall stop your dreaming, Can’t you see their spearpoints gleaming?,
See their warriors’ pennants streaming, To this battlefield.
Men of Cornwall stand ye steady, It cannot be ever said ye for the battle were not ready
Stand and never yield!”[3]

Between songs, Rescorla called his wife, telling her, “Stop crying. I have to get these people out safely. If something should happen to me, I want you to know I’ve never been happier. You made my life.” After successfully evacuating most of Morgan Stanley’s 2,687 employees, he went back into the building. When one of his colleagues told him he too had to evacuate the World Trade Center, Rescorla replied, “As soon as I make sure everyone else is out.” He was last seen on the 10th floor, heading upward, shortly before the South Tower collapsed at 9:59 A.M. His remains were never found.

Muslims did this Chris, there wasn’t a Christian, Hindu or Buddhist among them. Muslims were on a mission to murder infidels (innocent, men, women and children) for the advancement of Islam and in the name of Allah. They used the Koran like a weapon to justify a religious war on infidels. I want the world to remember what motivated them. I won’t ever try to separate this from 9/11.

This is how I hold them accountable and send a message, these murderous Muslims were a disgrace to their religion. But, many millions still consider them martyrs and those people should be shamed too.

Muslims everywhere, should use 9/11 as a day to denounce religious murder and oppression of human rights, then we could have some healing. That attack on us was a black day for Islam, but, until Muslims make a serious effort to shame all evil done in the name of their religion – I’ll be happy to say it for them.

I’m curious why you do not extend the same logic to white supremacists, who have committed far more individual acts of terrorism in the US than Muslims. Why is it not equally important to name and shame this ideology?

Note that I say “white supremacists,” not “white people,” because I don’t want to conflate all whites with that evil ideology. By the same token I think the phrase “radical Islamic terrorist” or something like it would have made your point better than the word “Muslims.”

The Muslim community as a whole has condemned the actions of these terrorists. There are plenty of stories of them doing this, but for some reason I don’t see those stories getting a lot of coverage here.

“I’m curious why you do not extend the same logic to white supremacists, who have committed far more individual acts of terrorism in the US than Muslims. Why is it not equally important to name and shame this ideology?”

Chris I think the question was more a rhetorical one than one in search of an answer. The implication seems to me as I can’t apply the same logic to white supremacists because I am one or at least a racist white person, right? lol In my defense, we were not talking about white supremacy, we were talking about 9/11 and how a handful of Muslims slaughtered over 3000 innocent people. Oops…I just violated your political correctness again. I should have said, “how a handful of [radicalized] Muslims slaughtered… ” Do I really have to say that, isn’t that sort of redundant? Would non-radicalized Muslims have attacked us and slaughter thousands in the name of Allah? In the past, I have made dozens of references to radicalized terrorists in order to draw a distinction between being the zealots and regular Muslims. It’s disappointing that you don’t remember?

“The Muslim community as a whole has condemned the actions of these terrorists.” Oh, really? I don’t think many people in this country saw it that way. I saw a few moderate Muslims in America and fewer elsewhere condemn it, but it was far the Muslim community as a whole, as you put it.

Back in 2001 I saw a lot of Mid-East Muslims dancing in the streets when the news hit and I heard a lot talk about these killers being martyrs both in the middle east and from some here in the US. But, aside from the moderates I duly noted that condemned the 9/11 attack, I never saw the condemnation rise to the level of a death sentence-fatwah like they did to poor old Salmon Rushdie for just writing a book. I never saw hundreds of Muslims taking to the streets in anger with banners and signs condemning the 9/11 attack like they did in Amsterdam over a cartoon. But, you see what you want and I see things with the perspective of an old guy who has been around and seen a lot of things. And if it helps, yeah I condemn white supremacists..they’re terrible people. But, I don’t think the danger their little band poses is anywhere close to the spread forced domination in the name of Islam.

Before I leave, I have a 2 questions. Chris, how many Americans have been murdered by white supremist in the USA in the last 20 years? This should be easy because apparently you already know the answer. And then one more question which you might find a little harder. How many Americans have been murdered by Muslim terrorists during the same period?

Chris I think the question was more a rhetorical one than one in search of an answer. The implication seems to me as I can’t apply the same logic to white supremacists because I am one or at least a racist white person, right?

No, the implication is your party has a vested interest in hyping the threat of foreigners and downplaying the threat of white supremacists, because they rely on the votes of xenophobes and racists. You might not be one yourself, but you still feel the need to tow the party line.

In the past, I have made dozens of references to radicalized terrorists in order to draw a distinction between being the zealots and regular Muslims. It’s disappointing that you don’t remember?

I remember. I also remember outright bigoted posts of yours against Muslims, like the one you deleted a few months back.

But, aside from the moderates I duly noted that condemned the 9/11 attack, I never saw the condemnation rise to the level of a death sentence-fatwah like they did to poor old Salmon Rushdie for just writing a book.

The obvious answer to this is that moderate Muslims don’t issue fatwahs against anyone.

Before I leave, I have a 2 questions. Chris, how many Americans have been murdered by white supremist in the USA in the last 20 years? This should be easy because apparently you already know the answer. And then one more question which you might find a little harder. How many Americans have been murdered by Muslim terrorists during the same period?

The question is badly phrased–are you excluding soldiers? Are you talking just Americans on American soil? Are you including 9/11? Because that attack had an unusually high death toll. If you only go since 9/11 and keep it on American soil, 107 Americans have been killed by white supremacists and 104 have been killed by Islamic terrorists. I’ll admit this is alarmingly close, but white supremacists seem to have the edge and are securing a confident lead, as in 2018 every politically motivated act of terror was perpetrated by a white supremacist.

We all remember where we were and what we were doing when we stopped to watch the planes hit the twin towers. And the country came together!
The terrorists are still around, and it behooves every one of us to be vigilant and take individual action if necessary. Those with courage, that is . . . . .