Now that Herm is the biggest loser in KC history what should we do with him?

Chiefster

12-28-2008, 04:24 PM

Fire him; this is a no brainer.

drstandley31

12-28-2008, 04:32 PM

As much as I want that, don't count on it. Will be the new GM call I suppose, and he has a year on his contract. However, if you were the new GM, would you suffer through your first year with this mess before making changes, or would you use your first year to do what needs to be done and not string this out. I'd start with a clean slate.

Chiefster

12-28-2008, 04:39 PM

As much as I want that, don't count on it. Will be the new GM call I suppose, and he has a year on his contract. However, if you were the new GM, would you suffer through your first year with this mess before making changes, or would you use your first year to do what needs to be done and not string this out. I'd start with a clean slate.

Eggsactly

Eydugstr

12-28-2008, 05:24 PM

Fire him; this is a no brainer.

+1. I have nothing personal against Mr. Edwards - when he first came to KC I was all for it, and wondered why people in New York weren't complaining after he left the Jets - but he is way too conservative as a head coach in KC.

At the end of last year's 4-12 season, Clark Hunt told everyone he was holding Carl Petersen and Herm Edwards responsible for turning it around. If you fire Petersen and keep Edwards it would send a mixed message to fans, players & assistant coaches.

Coach

12-28-2008, 10:11 PM

I think Edwards knows that his days in KC are over.

YZILLA

12-29-2008, 12:07 AM

Hes a good guy and ill miss him. Yeah we lost alot , but the coach isnt playing the game . The players ( especially on defense )gave up alot and were standing around alot waiting to see if the other guy was gonna make the block or make the tackle.It was very apparent today against Cincy that we gave up. Defense doesnt tackle in numbers .Its always a bunch of solo attempts and misses . Good defenses Swarm to the ball We kinda stood in line waiting to take turns attempting to tackle . Our Offensive line is so much better than at the beginning of the season im not concerned about it in the draft. but our defense ( no matter how much i like all of them ) needs to be fixed . It was embarassing to watch today .

okikcfan

12-29-2008, 12:57 AM

I think Herm Will be fired, and fired by Clark Hunt. He will not get a HC job for years to come. But Clark may be waiting to fire Herm due to the staff. I think he already has an idea on who he wants in to replace Carl. We will know fairly soon. Just a gut feeling.....

theaxeeffect4311

12-29-2008, 01:11 AM

Hes a good guy and ill miss him. Yeah we lost alot , but the coach isnt playing the game . The players ( especially on defense )gave up alot and were standing around alot waiting to see if the other guy was gonna make the block or make the tackle.It was very apparent today against Cincy that we gave up. Defense doesnt tackle in numbers .Its always a bunch of solo attempts and misses . Good defenses Swarm to the ball We kinda stood in line waiting to take turns attempting to tackle . Our Offensive line is so much better than at the beginning of the season im not concerned about it in the draft. but our defense ( no matter how much i like all of them ) needs to be fixed . It was embarassing to watch today .

However, everything you just mentioned about the defense reflects the coaching. If a player is out of position on a couple of plays, you say the player is a bit confused/possibly bad. But when almost every player on the team does just as bad, on almost every play, does that say something about the players or the coaches? Most of the defense players are young and inexperienced. But that does not excuse how the team can keep making the same mistakes every week. The coaches are supposed to see mistakes on the film and make corrections accordingly. So if the players keep making the same mistakes, are the coaches really doing their job? Even with records aside (Herm congratulations!), Herm was brought in to help the defense. We got better last season because of Allen and what do we do. I know the Allen trade is a discussion that would go on for days, but the point stands that he is gone and this is how Herm made the defense. This worse than any season under Vermeil. Herm does not have the answers that this team needs.

Or we can go for a conspiracy approach and say the players secretly hate Herm so to get him fired, they played like lepers with alzheimers. I mean if they really wanted to help Herm keep his job they would have played better, right?

chief31

12-29-2008, 02:36 PM

I think Edwards knows that his days in KC are over.

As do I.

I didn't want to say anything, because I wonder if my own bias may play a part in my interpretation, but I have sensed it in Herms speech, as well as in Clarks.

I don't really care for our recent connection with The Jets, but I would not be upset if we were to replace Herm with Eric Mangini.:D

Mangini just got fired after three season, for going 9-7. I think that 2-14 is worse than that. But that is just my opinion.

Oops. No. That is actually a fact, isn't it?:lol:

Coach

12-29-2008, 02:46 PM

Oddly, I thought about this for 1-2 seconds when I first saw the news on Mangini. I say no way on Mangini. No more love affair with the Jets. When we start wearing the Jets old clothes. we will look like the Jets, only worse. Enough of Herm,no way on Mangini.

If we are going to steal pieces from other franchises, how about we choose a franchise that has won something in the last 25 years.

jap1

12-29-2008, 05:42 PM

For those of you who love Cowher and hate Herm. Apparently he turned down the Cleveland job but is interested in working this year. He obviously has a lot of suitors though. This is according to the following article on ESPN.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3797518

hernanch

12-29-2008, 06:16 PM

Chiefs deserve better, way better!!!!

Herm has no idea how to win a football game, a major change is urgently needed here

C'mon, If it wasn't for the Lions, we were probably the worst team of the '08 season