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1. it's Ash's goddamn Pikachu, an experienced battler vs an sheep herding Ampharos. I'd imagine people would be HAPPY that they showed Ash's Pokemon to be stronger.

2. Pikachu used Thunderbolt while Amphy just used Thundershock so there's that.

I liked the episode, nothing too exciting but entertaining nonetheless. Made me appreciate Dragonite more. Also we had some interesting looking animation in the end half when they fought TR. Lots of nice shading but an inordinary style, perhaps a new animator in the hoods?

Well I wasn't. It's another cheap attempt to pander to little kids by fleecing an evolved pokemon to make pikachu look good.

So what? In the anime they are functionally the same.

I do not consider Pikachu experienced when it's so called experience led it to lose to a Magikarp, panpour, and fresh off the lab snivy.

Nope, just one that's really great in general. He animated Cameron's gym battle episode with Marlon and Iris's battle episode with Drayden.

Ah, I see. I did think Ash actually looked similar to the Kotetsu episode here, the end of the fight just looked different than usual for me.

Originally Posted by pokemonsquared

Well I wasn't. It's another cheap attempt to pander to little kids by fleecing an evolved pokemon to make pikachu look good.

So what? In the anime they are functionally the same.

I do not consider Pikachu experienced when it's so called experience led it to lose to a Magikarp, panpour, and fresh off the lab snivy.

They should make a main characters Pokemon look better more often imo.

And of course they function the same, but Thundershock is a weaker version. Like Skyla told Cilan when he Thundershocked Swanna, at least learn ThunderBOLT before coming onto MY Flying types lololol.

Pikachu hits harder than Ampharos in the games anyway, fact (I dare you to nitpick at the need of a Light Ball, they're never going to change a Pokemon's base stats, if they would they would just boost Pikachu instead of giving it an item lol). Pikachu with a Light Ball actually has a higher Attack stat than Groudon. w00p

Originally Posted by J Ken

By the looks of the scan TRio got easily defeated after Ampharos learned ThunderPunch. Does that mean that things will go like this from now on?

Like g&y said, they fought the main characters first. Also, there have been instances where they were beaten by the "Pokemon of the day" before in BW. Like the Zorua, Audino and Cottonee episodes. The only thing that's different is that they no longer get funded for jet packs apparently. :P

Explain why then Pikachu doesn't have thunder. Game accuracy ratings mean nothing in the anime.

LOL 90 vs 115 sp.attack. AND YES GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS ASH'S PIKACHU DOES NOT HAVE A LIGHT BALL.

Daaayumn all this hate for the little people. D : Isn't Charizard also a toy seller? Hell, everyone's a toy seller. I bought a Boldore figure purely because the anime made me LOVE it. And he did it with minimum screen time. Expert toy seller, right there.

And where'd you get 90 sp.A? Raichu? What's that boy have to do with anything? Hello?
Pikachu clearly has a Light Ball fused into his body. :]]] It some times malfunctions causing frustrating losses, mainly after periods of slacking off at Pallet town before a new journey.

Daaayumn all this hate for the little people. D : Isn't Charizard also a toy seller? Hell, everyone's a toy seller. I bought a Boldore figure purely because the anime made me LOVE it. And he did it with minimum screen time. Expert toy seller, right there.

And where'd you get 90 sp.A? Raichu? What's that boy have to do with anything? Hello?
Pikachu clearly has a Light Ball fused into his body. :]]] It some times malfunctions causing frustrating losses, mainly after periods of slacking off at Pallet town before a new journey.

If BOldore got the kind of exposure the real toy sellers do then I wouldn't be like this.
K I made a typo.

Pikachu does not have any items anywhere. I suppose next thing you want to say is snivy has an eviolite fused in her body?

Its simply not right how its always the big Pokemon who get embarrassed. I mean dragonite being worn out after being hit by an air cutter?

If BOldore got the kind of exposure the real toy sellers do then I wouldn't be like this.
K I made a typo.

Pikachu does not have any items anywhere. I suppose next thing you want to say is snivy has an eviolite fused in her body?

Its simply not right how its always the big Pokemon who get embarrassed. I mean dragonite being worn out after being hit by an air cutter?

Of course I'm kidding, stats simply don't carry over to the anime. And both big and small Pokes get "embarrassed" from time to time. I mean Oshawott and Snivy haven't gotten proper wins in a long time. The only little Pokes used in the Sinnoh league were from Ash's Sinnoh team(I don't count Quilava as little, mid isn't too shabby) and now the only old mon confirmed to return is Zard so they apparently aren't going to have Ash rely on past unevolved Pokes like ever except for Bulbasaur and Squirtle in the BF.

1. it's Ash's goddamn Pikachu, an experienced battler vs an sheep herding Ampharos. I'd imagine people would be HAPPY that they showed Ash's Pokemon to be stronger.

2. Pikachu used Thunderbolt while Amphy just used Thundershock so there's that.

I liked the episode, nothing too exciting but entertaining nonetheless. Made me appreciate Dragonite more. Also we had some interesting looking animation in the end half when they fought TR. Lots of nice shading but an inordinary style, perhaps a new animator in the hoods?

I have to agree with you. I expected Ash's pikachu to be stronger.

I still like the part when Pikachu got carried away and scared Axew, Dragonite, and Ampharos.

Snivy and Dragonite battling was great.

The sassy Mareep were cute.

Dragonite reminds me of an old grumpy man with the way it is always upset.

8/10

Originally Posted by Rohanator

Of course I'm kidding, stats simply don't carry over to the anime. And both big and small Pokes get "embarrassed" from time to time. I mean Oshawott and Snivy haven't gotten proper wins in a long time. The only little Pokes used in the Sinnoh league were from Ash's Sinnoh team(I don't count Quilava as little, mid isn't too shabby) and now the only old mon confirmed to return is Zard so they apparently aren't going to have Ash rely on past unevolved Pokes like ever except for Bulbasaur and Squirtle in the BF.

Snivy's last proper win was when she battled Mincino (or Chincinco??) Idk how you spell it, but she beat a pokemon that appeared to be pretty strong.

James still said "to unite "the" people" instead of all. But oh well, I can't nitpick when we got the original motto back.

A pretty regular episode, but I'm glad Team Rocket got the spotlight as the villains.

Dragonite coaching Ampharos to use ThunderPunch was pretty cool. He looked so rash as always.

The Mareep looked strange in this episode, and they also sound... souless in a way. It's been awhile since I saw a Mareep speak in the anime.

ASH how can you not know what a Mareep is? You've seen one already. I can forgive you for dexing it, but not knowing what it is? Really? That's no excuse for you. Even Cilan knew what it was. Dude. You're causing dead brain cells.

This was an ok episode. I found it oddly amusing how Dragonite tried to teach Ampharos Thunderpunch.

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This was an ok episode. I found it oddly amusing how Dragonite tried to teach Ampharos Thunderpunch.

Lol, it would have been a funny gag to somehow fit it into every end to every dub episode episode. I could see the episode wrapping up and the narrator saying something like "as ash's journey contin-" gets cut off and cilan is like "waaaait! Beeeesssst wiiishes!"

I really liked Dragonite being a mentor this episode. It really showed that there is a soft centre within his hard exterior (with a little encouragement of course). It was sensible to use Ampharos and I liked it being used as its one of my favourite Pokémon and overall it was a good episode.

On to the next one!

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