It's utter shite at the moment Bones, where has the real wit and irony and intelligent humour that I used to love gone?Yes Sebsmummy, there's plenty of sites to go on to discuss sex, that was why I chose MN because though there's always been some sex and controversy here, it was never the reason for the site.Many of us preferred it that way.MN are openly putting out trolls on facebook yet we got shut down on NYE for many regulars using satire as humour.

It's like the whole NY thing didn't happen but it's definitely noticeable that people are not starting funny threads anymore as they think they'll get deleted.Which leaves us with the joys of the pervs and squirty women each trying to outdo each other trying to look cool.I wonder if we're still allowed to mention goats on benefit threads, joke about PFBs and P&C parking places or is that not allowed any more?

Since penis beaker I've noticed that actual parents are thin on the ground... Which is a bit weird as that was the unifying factor and where alot if the good advice and support came from. Not saying Im against non parents or anything - that would be silly! But it means I have to approach every thread and poster differently now, it's like being on a more general site - not what I came to mumsnet for.

As soon as I saw HQ were promoting that thread I knew there'd be another influx. The cynic in me even wondered if HQ was starting these threads.The wittiest threads by far these days imo are the tv addicts threads.

I've been on a fair few large sites (Handbag anyone?) and they seem to have their hay day. There are crazy busy, lots of regulars, posters feel like it's their 'home', they feel they contribute to the site and have helped fuel it's popularity, and then things start to change.

The moderators become a little more strict, threads disappear, popular people get banned, there are campaigns to get popular posters reinstated. People leave flounce, start their own boards, lots of people leave and join these new forums but still lurk on the old ones and report back how crap it's got. The old site is either regenerated by new people or else dies off. I've seen the cycle around three times now on large sites.