Yea. I edited my post, when I realized it was fantasy value. I'm not a fantasy guy, but I assumed that might be why he was so high. Same with Scott Sizemore, Eric Young, Frazier, Freese, etc.

Yeah its based on fantasy value from '10-'12 though so its a pretty wide range of guys on there. Also, the best fantasy guys are usually the best players you want on your team anyway so I dont know why that would a big deterrent. Its a solid list though to see who/what to expect in the next couple of years.

Yeah its based on fantasy value from '10-'12 though so its a pretty wide range of guys on there. Also, the best fantasy guys are usually the best players you want on your team anyway so I dont know why that would a big deterrent. Its a solid list though to see who/what to expect in the next couple of years.

Oh, and thanks for the edit.

It could also be guys who really stand out in one category that your fantasy team might need, too. Stolen bases, doubles, etc.

HOWEVER, Brandon Allen at #13? Boy do I really hope they are wrong. If he turns out to be a stud and all we got for him was Pena I m not sure Kenny will ever be able to live that 1 down.

That was an odd trade. There's no way you trade anything close to a top prospect for a middle reliever, which pena is and was. That's not close to a fair return.
#13 suggests he is a top prospect; but my understanding was that he really wasn't that. We'll see.

That was an odd trade. There's no way you trade anything close to a top prospect for a middle reliever, which pena is and was. That's not close to a fair return.
#13 suggests he is a top prospect; but my understanding was that he really wasn't that. We'll see.

I think it's more about what the Sox think of Pena. I believe that they felt that he could be a solid 8th or 9th inniing guy.

It's entirely possible that Allen could produce impressive numbers and make the traded look worse than it was. He already began to in hitter friendly Reno last summer. The BOB with National League pitching may help to exasperate that condition when he makes the major league club this year.

However, the thing that bothers me most is that the player we targeted in the deal had shown no K rate prowess in 3 major league seasons and was already 27. Supposedly KW and one of our scouts "saw" something in him. Whatever it was, it doesn't appear to have been worth trading anyone who was within a year of being a major league regular.

It's entirely possible that Allen could produce impressive numbers and make the traded look worse than it was. He already began to in hitter friendly Reno last summer. The BOB with National League pitching may help to exasperate that condition when he makes the major league club this year.

However, the thing that bothers me most is that the player we targeted in the deal had shown no K rate prowess in 3 major league seasons and was already 27. Supposedly KW and one of our scouts "saw" something in him. Whatever it was, it doesn't appear to have been worth trading anyone who was within a year of being a major league regular.

Keep in mind that KW and Josh Byrnes (D'Backs GM) are good friends and therefore consistent trade partners. This goes back to when we shared a spring training complex for years; we know each others players, including minor leaguers, better than any two teams know each other.

This trade could easily have been borne of past considerations, or includes future considerations.

Keep in mind that KW and Josh Byrnes (D'Backs GM) are good friends and therefore consistent trade partners. This goes back to when we shared a spring training complex for years; we know each others players, including minor leaguers, better than any two teams know each other.

This trade could easily have been borne of past considerations, or includes future considerations.

Not sure what that means. Are you saying that Byrnes robbed KW and KW gets some sort of future credit and is able to get a player from SD cheaply because he got fleeced?