Well I'm going to negotiate a better deal directly with the EU so that I can continue to travel around Europe whenever I want.

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After we make our formal announcement of leaving the EU as of article 50, there is a period of UP TO 2 years to negotiate any areas of trade where we can make any mutually beneficial arrangements to put in place from a position of us being outside the eu... if not then we just revert to WTO trade rules which are by far better than what we have at the moment.

There is no reason why this will take 2 years if there is nothing to agree on.

We just go straight to WTO...

And there is no reason why it will take 2 years if there are things we agree on...

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Tommy you are proving that you are decades behind and completely clueless and voted to Bankrupt your nation and send it into death spirals of poverty. Face it that is the REALITY of your vote, you wanted the people to decide but the people are idiots, like yourself

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Tommy you are proving that you are decades behind and completely clueless and voted to Bankrupt your nation and send it into death spirals of poverty. Face it that is the REALITY of your vote, you wanted the people to decide but the people are idiots, like yourself

WTO rules are already set out, and a completely viable position for uk to adopt and operate within and use as the basis of our continued trade with any eu countries once we are out of the EU.

And I don't know what the rest of your ranting is about... you are so often gloating about how we are heading down the plughole... but now you feign concern about our impending doom and offer your best advice that staying in the eu is what you think is best for us...?

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I always said this is what you where voting for Everyone Outside the circle Jerk of brexit nonsense did AND now you are acting like no one told you that the Lack of trade would be a very likely consequence.and the WTO rules DO not apply to anyone ion the Eu as they are bound by the EU rules they are not going to reinstate a set of rules from the 90's because it would suit the UK if the world hadn't changed in the past 2 decades.

YOU VOTED FOR POVERTY that is what you are getting so I hope you are happy I feel sorry for the children that old useless geranium like you have fucked with your pathetic cowardice and compete nonsense, that it was the EU that made the UK so fucking backwards and NOT fuckwits like yourself and the attitude you display on here everyday

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veya_victaous wrote:I always said this is what you where voting for Everyone Outside the circle Jerk of brexit nonsense did AND now you are acting like no one told you that the Lack of trade would be a very likely consequence.and the WTO rules DO not apply to anyone ion the Eu as they are bound by the EU rules they are not going to reinstate a set of rules from the 90's because it would suit the UK if the world hadn't changed in the past 2 decades.

YOU VOTED FOR POVERTY that is what you are getting so I hope you are happy I feel sorry for the children that old useless geranium like you have fucked with your pathetic cowardice and compete nonsense, that it was the EU that made the UK so fucking backwards and NOT fuckwits like yourself and the attitude you display on here everyday

You really are a bell end!!!

"...The 28 member States of the EU are also WTO members in their own right. The EU is a single customs union with a single trade policy and tariff. The European Commission — the EU’s executive arm — speaks for all EU member States at almost all WTO meetings..."

Brexit and International TradeOne consequence of the UK’s membership of the EU is that many aspects of the UK’s external relations are now conducted partly or wholly through the EU. As a result of Brexit, the UK would be able to re-assume direct control of its external relations, including trade relations. The pro-Remain camp suggested in the campaign that Brexit would result in years of uncertainty while the UK renegotiates its international trade arrangements.

This contention is not supported by the facts and evidence. As we explain in more detail in this research piece:The UK cannot currently decide the level of tariffs which we levy on imports, because these are set at a uniform level for the EU as a whole under the EU's customs union. After exit, WTO rules would apply which would allow the UK to decide the level of our own tariffs on imports, provided that tariffs on average are no higher than under the EU customs union.

Again, because of the EU customs union and 'common commercial policy', the UK is not able to negotiate its own trade agreements with non-member countries -- we can only do so as part of the EU. The UK will be able to participate in new trade agreements with non-member countries from the day after exit. The process of negotiating new trade deals can be started during the 2-year notice period leading up to Brexit, with a view to bringing them into force on or soon after the date of exit.

The EU has existing free trade agreements which currently apply to the UK as an EU member. Most of these EU agreements are with micro-States or developing countries and only a small number represent significant export markets for the UK. Both the EU and the member states (including the UK) are parties to these agreements. The UK could simply continue to apply the substantive terms of these agreements on a reciprocal basis after exit unless the counterparty State were actively to object. We can see no rational reason why the counterparty States would object to this course since that would subject their existing export trade into the UK market, which is currently tariff free, to new tariffs. There will be no need for complicated renegotiation of these existing agreements as was misleadingly claimed by pro-Remain propaganda.

The UK was a founder member of EFTA but withdrew when we joined the EEC in 1973. We could apply to re-join with effect from the day after Brexit. There is no reason why the four current EFTA countries would not welcome us back, given that the UK is one of EFTA's largest export markets. EFTA membership would allow us to continue uninterrupted free trade relations with the four EFTA countries, and also to participate in EFTA's promotion of free trade deals with non-member countries around the world.

The EU is seriously encumbered in trying to negotiate trade agreements by the large number of vociferous protectionist special interests within its borders. After Brexit, the UK would be able to negotiate new trade deals unencumbered by these special interests much faster than the EU, and with a higher priority for faciliting access to markets for our own export industries including services.

It is completely untrue that you need to be a member of a large bloc like the EU in order to strike trade deals. The actual record of the EU compared to that (for example) of the EFTA countries demonstrates the direct opposite.

The baseline of our trade relationship with the remaining EU states would be governed by WTO rules which provide for non-discrimination in tariffs, and outlaw discriminatory non-tariff measures. From this baseline, and as the remaining EU's largest single export market, we would be in a strong position to negotiate a mutually beneficial deal providing for the continued free flow of goods and services in both directions.

http://www.lawyersforbritain.org/int-trade.shtml

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