Leveling as destro

Before 3.0 I grinded by saccing a voidwalker and pew pew'ing everything I saw. It took about 6 seconds to kill a single mob instead of ~20 as it used to be as affliction, and there was no downtime because of the health gen from the vw sac.

I have been chaos bolt destro for raiding since 3.0, and I'm considering going back to 0/21/40 with the vw sac for leveling. Yeah, it's only one target at a time, but incin, immo, incin, incin, conflag, lifetap, next mob.

Is there anything I'm missing that makes this a bad idea?

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Re: Leveling as destro

i loved leveling as affliction hmm.. after a certain gear point (aka vanilla to tbc gear) you could do it with a felhunter and be fully prepared for ganks.
dot dot dot fear (life drain if needed) ->next mob. never go below 90% health or mana. imp soul drain/life drain/darkpact
almost never got ganked, was able to kill almost anyone who tried me.

i cannot imagine this is the case with a sacced void? =/

anyways man, i'd go with whatever you think will give less down time (ganks included)

I felt like putting a bullet between the eyes of every Panda that wouldn't screw to save its species
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Re: Leveling as destro

Originally Posted by Mysmere

i loved leveling as affliction hmm.. after a certain gear point (aka vanilla to tbc gear) you could do it with a felhunter and be fully prepared for ganks.
dot dot dot fear (life drain if needed) ->next mob. never go below 90% health or mana. imp soul drain/life drain/darkpact
almost never got ganked, was able to kill almost anyone who tried me.

i cannot imagine this is the case with a sacced void? =/

anyways man, i'd go with whatever you think will give less down time (ganks included)

Maybe I never got the hang of it, but I leveled affliction from 1-70 and I don't remember it being that fast. First, 3 dots won't kill a mob, and second, if you fear a mob and immediately throw 3 dots on a different mob and fear it, the first mob will be freed of the fear and come back to you, possibly with friends. Perhaps it's a matter of preference, but I would just rather take mobs one at a time and kill them so quickly that they don't have time to run to within melee range.

As for the ganking, i'm ok with destro, and having health restored via vw sac is nice. Also, on Sargeras, allies outnumber horde about 6:1, so we're generally the ones doing the gang-ganking :P

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Re: Leveling as destro

Originally Posted by Uchi

What benefits does this give over killing one mob every 6-8 seconds with no downtime?

siphon life felguard gives the benifits of being able to solo as many mobs as you can pull with dots at a time, with zero down time. mana low? single pull with siphon life, sick your felguard on it, then life tap and bandage up.

It also gives the advantage of not having to look for groups to do group kill quests. In beta several people in average gear reported being able to kill just about every elite mob that is a quest objective, solo.

Re: Leveling as destro

Originally Posted by yaba

siphon life felguard gives the benifits of being able to solo as many mobs as you can pull with dots at a time, with zero down time. mana low? single pull with siphon life, sick your felguard on it, then life tap and bandage up.

It also gives the advantage of not having to look for groups to do group kill quests. In beta several people in average gear reported being able to kill just about every elite mob that is a quest objective, solo.

So your main idea is that it gives more survivability at the cost of a lower damage output?

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Re: Leveling as destro

So your main idea is that it gives more survivability at the cost of a lower damage output?

lower burst damage, but you increase overall damage by killing multipul targets at the same time.

Per say as destro you kill one mob every 6sec. 10 mobs a min.
As siphon life/felguard it takes 3secs to dot a mob with coa, corruption, and sl. That mob is going to die. If there is another mob in range, you can dot it in another 3sec, and if there is even another in range (keep in mind you can always be on the move, insta casts ftw) you can then dot it.. if you are constantly on the move for a min finding new mobs it would be easy to kill 18-20 in a min.. considering that the last few would die shortly after the 1min mark.

Re: Leveling as destro

Originally Posted by yaba

lower burst damage, but you increase overall damage by killing multipul targets at the same time.

Per say as destro you kill one mob every 6sec. 10 mobs a min.
As siphon life/felguard it takes 3secs to dot a mob with coa, corruption, and sl. That mob is going to die. If there is another mob in range, you can dot it in another 3sec, and if there is even another in range (keep in mind you can always be on the move, insta casts ftw) you can then dot it.. if you are constantly on the move for a min finding new mobs it would be easy to kill 18-20 in a min.. considering that the last few would die shortly after the 1min mark.

Interesting. Makes sense, but.. it seems like it would still take ~20 seconds for each mob to die with 3 dots on it. That's 6-7 mobs pulled at a time. How well does the felguard keep aggro and stand up to 6-7 mobs beating on it, or how well do you stand up to 6-7 mobs beating on you?

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Re: Leveling as destro

Originally Posted by Uchi

Interesting. Makes sense, but.. it seems like it would still take ~20 seconds for each mob to die with 3 dots on it. That's 6-7 mobs pulled at a time. How well does the felguard keep aggro and stand up to 6-7 mobs beating on it, or how well do you stand up to 6-7 mobs beating on you?

I may be wrong as maybe I play demonology different then others, but when you're running a demonology spec it's still typically you doing the tanking while the Felguard just cleaves into mobs. It's slower then Affliction, but depending on congestion and competition it may be worth considering.

I personally can't stand the Felguard or the entire Demonology tree so I'll be leveling as Affliction much like I've done for the past 4 years when not raiding.

Re: Leveling as destro

I may be wrong as maybe I play demonology different then others, but when you're running a demonology spec it's still typically you doing the tanking while the Felguard just cleaves into mobs.

pretty much the case, your felguard can tank the shit out of 1 mob, maybe 2. With siphon life, soul link, and fel synergy neither you or your FG are going to come close to dieing from only 7 or 8 mobs.. not to mention with the spell pushback changes you can cast howt even with 10 beating on you, and it only makes it what a 3.5sec cast?