Comment by Eeolya

Funy .. Azzinoth was a doomguard and doomguards were creatures who served the legion (even though their loyalty lies in Archimonde alone) and people who have played Warcraft know that doomguards carry chaotic one handed simple bladed swords nothing like the warglaives.. and how could a Shard of a Demon ressemble a dagger ? It could be a claw or something ressembling but to think it was an actual piece of him wrecks the lore ...But it's still a Phat dagger

Comment by samboffy

Have you ever actually thought that instead of it being the Shard of Azzinoth as in the Doomguard Azzinoth .

Maybe its the Shard of Azzinoth as in Shard of the Warglaive Azzinoth . Because they both more or less have the same green glowing edge and more or less the same hilt.

Just makes more sense tbh . Instead of a shard off a demon , why would illidan be carrying it around with him ?

So more likely a shard of the legendary sword , thats why its not as powerful and a dagger , because its a shard .

Comment by Viprime

Procs very often, multiple times per boss fight. Summons a small green fire elemental that does around 100 dmg a hit on a non debuffed mob, lasting 15 seconds.

Has around 7k ish health.

Comment by Meaveen

I used ProcWatch in black temple and it recorded 54 procs in 6220 hits, which gives a 0,5 procs per minute. Pretty low imo considering the proc is the only "stat" except the ap.

It attacks for melee dmg instead of fire dmg which would be more realistic since its an elemental.

Comment by nonfatbacon

Samboffy what you say makes great sense, yet it being the shard of a demon makes sense to considdering Illidian was a demon slayer.

Comment by Viprime

Rate me down, misspost.

Comment by Viprime

So like this proc frequently breaks gouge in PvP but never noticed it break gouge in PvE.. still rather annoying.

Excellent for keeping other rogues in combat tho.

Comment by Blackshart

Anise of Forte has one, is she the only one or do more people have it? (Judging by the comments more people do)

Comment by Woyruu

Warglaive of Azzinoth Shard?

Comment by marshseven

Hmmm, i see this is pretty of a good dagger and good for rogues, but i usally seen warlocks hold it. Hmm, i'm very curios of this dagger, if eny one is wondering the guardian that sommon's hase a hidden period of time it stays out, it will last 1 minute,

Shard of Azzinoth:Binds when picked upUniqueOne-Hand Dagger 161 - 242 Damage Speed 1.90 (106.1 damage per second)Durability 75 / 75Requires Level 70 Equip: Increases attack power by 64.Chance on hit: Calls forth an Ember of Azzinoth to protect you in battle for a short period of time.

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it must be a good dagger, it shoulden't need stamina or agillity

Chance on hit: Calls forth an Ember of Azzinoth to protect you in battle for a short period of time.

Comment by Silenzo

Great dagger ... Mongoose with it makes it great for pvp

Comment by zeilon

Well I've kept check on little Ember a bit and last raid I actually checked (webwowstats) how much I gained from him he gave me a 2.3 dps increase which is roughly 32 AP. This was during an entire night in BT btw.

And a 96 AP bonus on a weapon is far from bad imo.

Besides I love the little bugger when he comes to my "rescue" hehe He is up a lot during fights.

Comment by Garby

Link goes to a gold selling site.

Comment by Galinersi

This dagger must be in main hand because it have a good damage 161-242 when you strike a crtit the damage while be big.

Comment by Myradral

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Comment by phoenix61385

Quit complaining about the proc. If you're in a high end guild, you won't even need this as a rogue. You should be combat swords and combat maces or AR/prep for pvp making this weapon pretty much trash or an IF weapon.

Comment by Gfaded

the main thing about this dagger that builds a gap between it and most other high end daggers is the 1.9 atk speed its the slowest dagger out there which makes it the best for big hits

Comment by CrYtzY

How many weapons had Azzinoth?Two blades,one dagger,one shield and one bow in WoW.How he can wield these weapons?

Comment by Joshu

Interesting note:

If you are a shaman, when the Ember of Azzinoth appears it activates a 1 minute cooldown on your elemental totems.

Comment by hrnsk

Since this weapon is a very poor choice for an enhancement shaman this fact doesn't matter at all.

Comment by themarkofthedead

imagine a mongoose,crusader or executioner on it:D:X

Comment by Nari

Also only weapon that Wow Armory lists as an upgrade from Warglaive of Azzinoth

Comment by Sabrotgus

Believe it or not this weapon is deadly in WSG. i was playing against a rogue with on of these and its mad dps plus the Coh makes it killer against cloth wearers. its had to get spells off when a rogue with 2 fast weapons and a pet are at your throat.

Comment by Glows

This pet's all fun an games untill the only bad thing about it happens.Was in WSG killing all their D, one at a time, (their was 3 of them) saping one, cheap shotoing the other, killing their priest, vanish, sap one agian, kill the unsapped oone, then kill the sapped one, but something hapened, the mage they had notice my ember because it proc'd when I killed their priest, on like, the 3rd last hit, he saw it following mme back into the hallway for a quick bite to eat, AoE'd it up around him, next thing I knew I had a war, and mage on me, and guess what? Yeh, I dedzorz, Thanks Ember. >:O

Comment by zombiehitman

its a very nice weapon for a rogue because of the speed and the ember doesn't help a whole lot but its better than nothing

Comment by greenblade

In my eyes this is realy good dagger .Yes it dont have much stats like most of the other daggers in the game but the fact that it drops from the <The Betrayer> makes it legendary in my eyes .The chanse on him is realy good ,dont have much info for dps bla bla ... for it but if you know that fight at Illidan Stormrage you will know where that "helper" come from ,i dont think blizzard will put a dagger from this boss that will not beat the other more easy to take daggers in the game .Last thing to say ,if i had a chanse for this i will roll for it for sure dont care for dkp or what ever :P .

Comment by schoeps

this thing is now appears to proc less, but can proc a few times, and sometimes two at once!. I had 4 minions up in Sunwell!

Comment by DEWO

Don't know if it's a bug or the hidden cooldown has been removed but i've had several times double proc of ember after 2.4.2.

Comment by Quadrophenia

Is it me, or is this item in some ways a mocking blow to any rogues who were hoping to get the warglaives? I mean, the similar name and appearance are coincidental and have to do with coming from the same source, but it's still pretty funny. Especially when you take into account that daggers are considered worse then swords by many rogues.

Comment by hlcws

Can the flames proc in Arena?

Comment by Mort213

Yeah it seems atm the proc has no cooldown the most ive had up was 5 at once normally its 3 or so not a bad lil boost of damage i guess

Comment by Mutez0r

This must suck to have, i mean instead of the Blades Of Azzinoth you rather get a shard of it. Bet that doesnt make u feel warm inside :P

Comment by Azp2k32

When evaluating this for arena use, remember that these guys operate based on PvE aggro mechanics, meaning typically they will go for healers. These can be very useful to have around to keep enemy healers in combat and all in place of a pet. You can't rely on it 100% but it's a nice bonus. Plus, the bit of spell pushback these can potentially create helps a ton.

Comment by falconindy

As of Patch 2.4.3, the pet is now a level 151 mob. Its damage appears to be unaffected by the change, but I presume it will be a little tougher to kill now.

Of course, I'm suspicious that this is "working as intended".

Edit: Upon further investigation, the level change appears to be purely "cosmetic". The summon is still horribly gimpy.

Comment by vladycfr

this weapon sucks...i have same weapons like the guy in second screenshot..and belie me, that red mace is better ( siphon of the nathrezim ) it drops from Supremus in BT

Comment by Goldenarmor

This dagger and the Syphon do not serve the same purpose; But, while we're on the subject, Oranges>Apples.

Comment by richard48

Epic Wep Must have

Comment by penguin1979

The damage the ember does in 2.4.3 is much less than what it used to. I compared it's damage on a few wws's I had.

Comment by Ezlector

Fun dagger for Mutilate, but be careful with your surroundings. The proc has come at bad times for me before, such as doing dailys on Isle near an alliance and a Shattered Sun Guard. It procced on the killing blow on a mob, and went after the closest "hostile" target, which was the alliance character. The guard did not like that and all in all the dagger got me a dura hit.

Comment by Kreidain

I managed to pick this up last night and here are my impressions.

This dagger is alot of fun to use. It hits really hard and has a nice slow speed for the main hand. Not only the the top end damage way up there, but the minimum damage is much higher then most daggers so on average you're hitting alot harder. Plus the 64 AP is nothing to scoff at.

The proc on this dagger is a bit of a gimmick but again it's alot of fun to play with. The proc has no internal cooldown so as stated before you can easily spawn two or more embers simultaneously. They don't hit hard but it's free damage. What I find amusing is the embers spawn as level 151 mobs. So there's really nothing in the level 70 range that can kill it. It will always stay up for its full duration before despawning.

You need to be careful with these spawns since they will aggro things a good distance away from you if you aren't fighting something. This can be easily managed while solo so long as you stay alert to what's around you. I had one moment while doing dailies where I had two embers spawn and as soon as I killed my target they took off in two seperate directions, aggroing two more mobs, one of them elite. Fortunately I was able to simply vanish.

In groups, especially certain instances, this can be a big problem as the embers can aggro the next group of mobs before everyone is ready, or worse yet while you're still fighting the last group. You may want to consider using another dagger for trash mobs when you want to make sure about what gets aggro'd.

That being said, this pet can be very handy in different situations. For example, while doing dailies the ember would often run to the next mob I needed to farm, effectively tagging it for me, which is great when there's alot of competition for the daily mobs. Also in PvP its another target for people to worry about, in BGs and Arenas it's especially handy since it will keep the healers in combat so they can't drink. In PvE you can also take advantage of this. While the ember is fighting a mob you can vanish without worrying about said mob resetting. This is great if want to take out elites on your own for example.

Comment by Miztirjinx

The thing that I find interesting about http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32471 is that I haven't seen anyone comment on the dagger's attack speed. As a combat spec rogue (not mut btw) the slower off-hand speed on this just rocks. 2.0 attack speed is too slow, and while 1.6-2.0 is standard attack speed for most main hand weapons for a combat rogue, just that .1 second makes all the difference. Also how common is this attack speed? not very common because of it's potencey. For example the only other dagger still usable at lvl 70 with this attack speed is http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27913 Just some food for thought. If you want to check the relevance of weapon speed relative to dps output, I would advise checking out Theorycraft forums on the subject or check the spreadsheet @ http://www.shadowpanther.net This is a great rogue resource. ô¿+

Comment by Netheral

That seems rather false as well, seeing as "chance on hit" weapons don't work for druids in form.

Comment by triggz

Does anyone know if this thing goes ballistic with FoK spam?When I FoK a pile of trash it usually sets off every trinket and weapon enchant I have at once, if the guy above was able to get 4 procs stabbing 1 person, and the swiping kitty made lots spawn, no telling what AR+BF+FoK could actually do.

Comment by joh3n

is there a matching offhand?

Comment by MM0rten

It procced 3 times in about 2 secs for me. proc on Cheap shot, and to auto attacks right after

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Comment by Valetto

Any idea if this dagger can be used to transform both daggers for rogues in 4.3?

Comment by villainae

This is an awesome dagger for level 70 PvP. The Embers that spawn apply a DoT and they see through stealth, making it a real rogue killer.

Comment by zZMrPantsZz

Lol its a mini version of

Comment by Rasmushansen

Does this dagger share model with any other daggers?

Comment by MasterOutlaw

For anyone looking to transmog these it should be noted that while they posses their own glow/animation your weapon enchants will still overwrite it. At least in the hands of a BE female landslide makes them look more like big glowing masses of yellow cotton candy than badass mini-glaives. Still awesome to have nonetheless.

Comment by Nrugeth

In patch 4.3 I found this dagger extremely powerful as a 85 ..When attacking the level 85 training dummy I had 1.9k dps (Only mainhand equipped) with with Landslide when I reached 100k dmg only autoattackingWhen using (unenchanted) I had 1.8k dps. The Ember of Azzinoth did proc 1 time before hitting 100k dmg done.

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Comment by Pinja

Transmogrifying your daggers into this won't get rid of the enchant glows, though Landslide doesn't show as much as on most other weapons.

Comment by Ambushu

So this really annoyed me. I love the look of this dagger. More specifically the handle and not the blade. The gear that I wanted to use it didnt match with and that bugged me. For some reason, there isnt an option on here that says "same model as" when in fact, it is the same model as Vengeful Gladiator's Shanker and Vengeful Gladiator's Shiv This dagger is what ive been looking for but didnt know existed. It goes perfectly with my T7.5 gear and my Darkmantle gear. I just happened upon it when i was doing WPvP with some guildies and i armoried a rogue that I killed and he had the daggers.

So Im putting this out there for other rogues that are/were in the same boat as myself.

Comment by chingu103

this is by far the coolest looking dagger in the game imho. i am sure there are many others that agree ;)

Comment by nightynite

Wish it would drop for me : /

Comment by dukenukemi

Just got this beauty accidently and tested if by clearing trash what was left, it procs at every fight i got 4 Ember of Azzinoth at the same time when Bladestorming trash.

Comment by Melilithia

Enchanting a dagger with Elemental Force, then using this dagger for transmog, makes your dagger look very... rainbow.

Comment by Zolathor

So I had this tmogged for awhile and I wanted to test the proc out of boredom..

Well I popped this on my off-hand hit a Target Dummy and to my suprise it proc'd a level 90 Ember with 10k health and does roughly 500-700 damage per attack, mind you more than one can proc at once, quite a bit of extra damage and just fun in general :)

Fun to mess about with in a bg with this in your off-hand as Sub since off-hands don't do much damage anyway as Sub even though you lose abit of stats.

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Comment by biggaz69

After all these years I still love to rock this dagger with my Tracker's Blade My favourite two daggers

Comment by Graknak

This drop is causing me headaches! I've gotten both warglaives AND the music scroll and I still haven't gotten this dagger's transmog yet ><

Comment by Hord4lyfe

I'm starting to think this dagger just doesn't exist. After running BT on 5 different characters for several months now and the dagger has never dropped. Glaives have dropped 5 times along with everything else. I only need one chest on my clothies and i have every bit of transmog from this damned place.

*Edit* Ok so it finally dropped and now I look like a sulky miserable pooh. These daggers are amazing though, they completely elevate my rogues transmog and are totally worth all those annoying runs. Check out my transmog if you like, very happy with it :D