But this is going to be a great chance for you guys to kind of CREATE your own personal Supplement Stack with just what you want!
Trust me the ZMA will GET YOU RIGHT!!
Also the Banaba Extract 1% 100 mg PERFECT POST WORK OUT!!! Will shuttle those carbs in to your muscle so fast! Its good!

I like the Anti-OX Dirk and i have talked about this!

What about a Thyroid stim We touched on this as well what do you guys think!

Understood. It is after all a member of the mint family which lends it some strong anti-spasmatic properties. Just to reach the recommended 50-100mg of forskolin active that would be quit a few pills. I'm not griping though, I'll take what I can get.

How many caps in a bottle? And price -- about $7 per?
And, how does banaba compare with taking an Ala with biotin supp post workout?
Also, Forskolin would help potentiate banaba's effects even further -- specifically how would that work?

I'm already sold on the Z-Recovery.
I'll second the high quality avena and the high percent nettle root.

How many caps in a bottle? And price -- about $7 per?
And, how does banaba compare with taking an Ala with biotin supp post workout?
Also, Forskolin would help potentiate banaba's effects even further -- specifically how would that work?

I'm already sold on the Z-Recovery.
I'll second the high quality avena and the high percent nettle root.

60 caps per pack- around $7 for the Banaba

I will have a more detailed list up next week hopefully

As for taking banaba post workout- the effects are stronger than an ALA/biotin mix- if you take 200 mg, you will feel yourself go hypo pretty quick....

As far as forskolin potentiating banaba- there could be some synergism in there- especially along the lines of enhancing cAMP and adenylate cyclase- could lead to a noticeable "pumped" feeling all the time- worth experimenting w/ especially for the price....

If it does it would be a perfect stack with berb because I use berb with every other meal to get protein synth in between but some banaba would be perfect IF it doesn't have the same problem. I am just VERY insulin resistant (100mcg igf and 10iu slin with only 50g crabs didnt make me hypo...)

If it does it would be a perfect stack with berb because I use berb with every other meal to get protein synth in between but some banaba would be perfect IF it doesn't have the same problem. I am just VERY insulin resistant (100mcg igf and 10iu slin with only 50g crabs didnt make me hypo...)

Stack'em, that would be a killer combo. The protein synthesis thing, to me, is really an overrated concern which (if it does happen in human physiology status), can be easily overriden by the benefits of the ingredients.

Stack'em, that would be a killer combo. The protein synthesis thing, to me, is really an overrated concern which (if it does happen in human physiology status), can be easily overriden by the benefits of the ingredients.

Agreed... Im pretty sure it was determined the effects on protein synthesis were quite minute for berberine.

If it does it would be a perfect stack with berb because I use berb with every other meal to get protein synth in between but some banaba would be perfect IF it doesn't have the same problem. I am just VERY insulin resistant (100mcg igf and 10iu slin with only 50g crabs didnt make me hypo...)

Can't really find anything that says banaba will halt protein synthesis- if you are lifting hard, eating right, and getting proper rest- knocking out or even decreasing protein synthesis is very tough to do- at least with supplements