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The thing that is attractive about Eifert is magnified by Heath's health concerns and the knowledge Heath is only around a couple more years. IMO Eifert could also produce from Day 1 which, I know we disagree, is something a Round 1 pick should be able to do.

Eifert is the kind of guy we could take if we were picking in the late 20's or early 30's. If we were drafting there (or traded down to there), then I'd be overjoyed with that pick. But we are picking in the teens, a place where we don't draft often. The last 5 times we had a first round pick that started with a "1" instead of a "2" or "3", we got Maurkice Pouncey at #18 in 2010, Lawrence Timmons at #15 in 2007, Ben Roethlisberger at #11 in 2004, Troy Polamalu at #16 in 2003, and Casey Hampton at #19 in 2001. Each of those guys is a building-block type player for us. When we are picking in the teens, I want an impact player like that...the best player available to us, because we don't pick this high very often...not just a TE because our TE happens to be hurt right now.

Eifert is the kind of guy we could take if we were picking in the late 20's or early 30's. If we were drafting there (or traded down to there), then I'd be overjoyed with that pick. But we are picking in the teens, a place where we don't draft often. The last 5 times we had a first round pick that started with a "1" instead of a "2" or "3", we got Maurkice Pouncey at #18 in 2010, Lawrence Timmons at #15 in 2007, Ben Roethlisberger at #11 in 2004, Troy Polamalu at #16 in 2003, and Casey Hampton at #19 in 2001. Each of those guys is a building-block type player for us. When we are picking in the teens, I want an impact player like that...the best player available to us, because we don't pick this high very often...not just a TE because our TE happens to be hurt right now.

What impact player do you think will be there at #17 who is really going to be a "building-block type" player? Only ones I see is if one of the top OL (Warmack, Cooper, etc) fall to that position. I don't think any of the LBs fit that description. Same with the DBs.

The names most frequentsly mentioned here like Jones, Vacarro, etc are not building-blocks. IMO Eifert is more of a building-block because he is likely a ten year starter at an increasingly important position.

Last edited by Oviedo; 04-04-2013 at 06:16 PM.

Playing Fantasy Football does not qualify you to be the in the front office or on the coaching staff of the Pittsburgh Steelers. They are professionals and you are not!

What impact player do you think will be there at #17 who is really going to be a "building-block type" player? Only ones I see is if one of the top OL (Warmack, Cooper, etc) fall to that position. I don't think any of the LBs fit that description. Same with the DBs.

The names most frequentsly mentioned here like Jones, Vacarro, etc are not building-blocks. IMO Eifert is more of a building-block because he is likely a ten year starter at an increasingly important position.

If TE is an increasingly important position, than wouldn't a player drafted to stop the TE (such as Vaccaro) be just as important?

I go back and forth on Vaccaro and Jones as players, but if Vaccaro is a top-flight safety with coverage ability, or if Jones is an elite pass rushing and playmaking OLB, those are certainly building block type players.

Eifert is the kind of guy we could take if we were picking in the late 20's or early 30's. If we were drafting there (or traded down to there), then I'd be overjoyed with that pick. But we are picking in the teens, a place where we don't draft often. The last 5 times we had a first round pick that started with a "1" instead of a "2" or "3", we got Maurkice Pouncey at #18 in 2010, Lawrence Timmons at #15 in 2007, Ben Roethlisberger at #11 in 2004, Troy Polamalu at #16 in 2003, and Casey Hampton at #19 in 2001. Each of those guys is a building-block type player for us. When we are picking in the teens, I want an impact player like that...the best player available to us, because we don't pick this high very often...not just a TE because our TE happens to be hurt right now.

Here is the question: If Eifert will be as productive as Gronkowski is he worth being picked at #17?

and by the way, I am in favor of going with Jones and then Ertz (big Ertz fan) with our first 2 picks but I can see why folks are lobbying for Eifert.

Here is the question: If Eifert will be as productive as Gronkowski is he worth being picked at #17?

and by the way, I am in favor of going with Jones and then Ertz (big Ertz fan) with our first 2 picks but I can see why folks are lobbying for Eifert.

I say yes... anybody who is going to be an "all pro" at his position is worth being picked at 17. I'm personally not convinced that you can couple a average speed TE with another average speed TE and come up with Gronk numbers.

One of Kiper’s most curious picks comes at No. 17, where he has the Steelers taking the best TE on the board—Notre Dame’s Tyler Eifert.

Warranted because of the devastating injury to current TE and Ben Roethlisberger favorite Heath Miller (via Chris Adamski of CBS Sports), Eifert has the athletic ability and receiver skills to take over the position full-time in a few seasons.

However, the Steelers are getting extremely thin on defense after a flurry of offseason casualties, and adding a new pass-rusher to replace the production of James Harrison shouldn’t be overlooked. While I understand Kiper’s decision to place Eifert as high as I’ve seen him in any mock, there are other positions that need filling.

If TE is an increasingly important position, than wouldn't a player drafted to stop the TE (such as Vaccaro) be just as important?

I go back and forth on Vaccaro and Jones as players, but if Vaccaro is a top-flight safety with coverage ability, orif Jones is an elite pass rushing and playmaking OLB, those are certainly building block type players.

Lots of "ifs" for these guys to be building blocks! I'm pretty certain you would get about 30 catches minimum out of Eifert his rookie year.

Playing Fantasy Football does not qualify you to be the in the front office or on the coaching staff of the Pittsburgh Steelers. They are professionals and you are not!

I say yes... anybody who is going to be an "all pro" at his position is worth being picked at 17. I'm personally not convinced that you can couple a average speed TE with another average speed TE and come up with Gronk numbers.

Yeah... one thing people forget about Gronk is the system he is in.. Pats throw the ball a ton, put him at RB and spread teams out so much it makes life easy for a TE.

I don't see Gronk when I see Eifert play.. not sure what the hell anyone has seen in Eifert that makes them an All Pro.