My hubs that moved have immediately improved in traffic and are holding steady. Many are getting hundreds of views per day. I think the hubpages.com domain is so poisoned that even a new domain is much better. When my hubs were switched from my subdomain to hubpages.com I lost thousands of views per day. That's because my subdomain created some distance from the hubpages.com domain. Unfortunately, I've only had some of my hubs moved to new sites, so most are continuing to be poisoned by the hubpages domain reputation. It's very clear to see what's happening. Get your stuff off of hubpages.com and you have a chance. While you're waiting for your content to be moved you are missing out on potential traffic.

I took a glance at your hubs and have a little suggestion. Many of your hubs have very broad titles. If you want to get them to be selected for the niche sites, you may want to make them more specific. An example could be changing your hub's "Workplace Safety" title to "Office Workplace Hazards to Check." Here are some other suggestions: I would make the subtitles even more specific but simple: "Electronic Equipment, Ventilation, Furniture, Fire Hazards, etc." Maybe including a survey about what people think is the most dangerous office hazard would make the hub more engaging. You also have two fire extinguisher ads on the page. I would cut that down to one if you want to have that hub selected.

I don't really want to get involved in these discussions too much at present but I would like to point something out.

Your pages on the niche site are not suffering competition from a plethora of similarly titled pages with similar content, in the way that they were on HP.

I recently saw a big increase in the number of views for one of my pages titled 'Different Types of Crab (with Pictures)'. This page has not been moved to a niche, though it might be when an 'education' niche launches.

The boost came about because a page that Google obviously takes to be similar to mine was moved from HP to Delishably. This was Habee's page: 'A Guide to Crabs, Crabmeat, and Crab Legs'.

If you look at the search below, you can see my page at the top and Habee's page at about number 5.

My page sprang to the top of that search as soon as Habee's (not really similar) page was moved from HP.

I am guessing Habee got a boost in traffic, too, since Google is not demoting her page anymore, either.

In other words, it might not be that HP is not all that toxic. It might be that it has far too many pages that Google is unable separate and Google will not offer searchers 2 pages from the same site, under any circumstances.

edit: if you look at Habee's page it has 4 iterations of the keyword 'type' including the phrase 'types of crab' in the comment section. These words are all used innocently but it is obviously enough to give Google a problem.

My hubs that moved to niche sites have greatly increased in traffic. I added a new hub and although it did not get on a niche site, it has a lot more views than my hubs normally do. It's also outside of my main niche. So far I'm happy, but wonder when they will make another pass through our hubs that stayed.

Will, I totally agree that there are too many similarly titled hubs on the hubpages domain. That is, I think, the main reason that the hubpages.com domain has not been able to increase traffic despite the extra Squidoo articles added and the moved from subs. I've made the suggestion that Hubpages staff offer authors some redirects to thin out articles that aren't needed here. Many people responded that this isn't going to happen. I agree that it wouldn't be in HP's best interest. It would be better to just do some unfeaturing. By moving hubs to these niche sites, it helps allow for more results from basically the same site to show up for searches. It's a bit of a trick that may eventually get caught and adjusted. The problem that I'm seeing now is all the links back to hubpages.com on these niche sites. It's a bit like telling on yourself an making it obvious. I hope that these niches become more independent over time as content and reputations are built.

I agree with most of what you said, however I read this axiom frequently, yet my experience is different.

"Google will not offer searchers 2 pages from the same site, under any circumstances."

Frequently I find (and perhaps more recently) that Google will deliver 2-3 results from the same site on the first page of results. Sometimes it is the same article twice! Not to mention that Amazon dominates half of the first page if Google thinks I am searching to buy a product.

Welcome back, tlcs. A few of mine were moved and have not seen hugely significant increases in traffic for the particular hubs. I was told to be patient for the first one to see traffic return. It's a recipe hub and it now gets under 10 views a day. It's been a couple months now. My last one, a newly published poem hub, was moved to a niche about a week after publishing. It is doing awfully, no views in about 4 or 5 days now. Very disappointing. For both, I believe it may be a combination of categorization and wrong niche site. Gotta go, will check back. Overall, I've seen a nice bump for other hubs.

I'm happy for everyone who's seen a big increase in views on the niche sites. Unfortunately, I can't say the same. I have 5 on KindredBond and one on ToughNickel with little or no action. I'm wondering what niche sites are getting the views.

HP has always had poor instincts when it comes to deciding what is spammy and what is not. Usually it only learns when a penalty comes along.

If you don't mind a Simpsons analogy, HP is more Bart than Lisa.

Having said that, they seem to have cut out links from Hubber comments in the niche sites, so now there are only 8 links or so back to HP from every page. Half of those are in the footer so probably do not matter.

I cannot find a site that is analogous to HP in its linking practices (worrying) and for all I know they have made up all these massive link loops on their own.

Gawker is slightly similar, I suppose but seems to throw out far fewer links to its sister sites and also 'no follows' heavily. The first article on Delishably (about pasties) has around two hundred external links, none of them no followed.

HI the ragged edge,I also had two series of hubs, where not all the parts were put on the niche site, so they didn't make sense, or at least it was obvious something was off. I wrote to the team, and they ignored me the first few times. Matt pretended he didn't know what I was talking about. Robin finally moved them so they are all together.

Just be persistent.

Not all the hubs they moved to niche sites are marked on my account page. I find that confusing. Maybe they didn't bother since I had to hound them to make them put my series things back together. Good luck.

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