For much of her life, Jordan believed that there was no evidence of God. When she debated with Christians, she always won. Then, during her freshman year at Harvard, she read an essay written by C.S. Lewis and began to question her own ..

I think it is easy to believe in Jesus when life is good, and her case, it appears to be. She married, she went to Harvard, she seemingly in good health.

My mother now has Alzheimer's and prayers don't seem to do much, though I suppose she could be deteriorating much faster i suppose.

It's hard for me to believe prayer does anything, and the simplest reason why is there is no god who answers prayer. But I do let people pray for her and maybe she'd be worse off.

I do think though if God gave me Jordan as my girlfriend and wife, i'd uh go to church to make her happy, though seminary school is a bit much i think.

I had thoughts similar to hers from what happens when we die, what about the children who die of starvation and what about all the homeless people in the world, to abortion and homosexuality and death penalty.

but listening to Jordan it reminds me of when i was a teenager and college student.

I find though it interesting that she was born an atheist, she was raised an atheist, both her parents are atheist and she took the time to read the bible, flag all the contradictions and challenged christians to explain it.

see i also saw contradictions in the Bible and i've concluded that the atheists are onto something.

she on the other hand also read CS Lewis and she's a big fan of the Chronicles of Narnia and that's her Harry Potter or Star Wars.

I suspect despite her atheist parents, her brain is wired for religion. i wonder how she lived her life as she says she got into Harvard but she didn't party or do drugs or engage in sex, despite having atheist parents.

this lifestyle is like the opposite of the rock stars.

for me i don't know how anyone could look at the world and think there's a good god in control of it all.

during the time i was a christian debator i was told that Nietzsche said god is dead, and that in existentialism, Dostoevsky said if there no god, then everything would be permitted.

if there's no god, who's to say abortion is wrong, or homosexuality, or genocide or pedophilia?

it's just human opinions that's all.

the ancient Greeks celebrated pedophilia they called pedantry between man and boys.

I've learned since that Allan Bloom was a pederast.

Allan Bloom in the Closing of the American Mind covers these topics and subjects, that Jordan Mangee also talks about. Allan Bloom was an atheist, whereas Jordan became a Christian.

i met plenty of male christian debaters, from the theory of evolution vs creationism and abortion, but I don't think i've met a female version, so Jordan pictured above is a bit of a surprise for me.

seems like a whole lifetime ago for me.

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