(03-08-2013 12:14 AM)ridethespiral Wrote: The Asian population is small compared to the white population and it is less rural and one can make a strong case for Asian Americans largely being an exception having a long Confucian tradition, India's technical colleges, linguistic constructs that aid in math skill development, etc.

Their cultures are an expression of their genes. Stop acting as if they are two completely separate things.

(03-08-2013 12:14 AM)ridethespiral Wrote: What genetic reason show me these IQ gap statistics you speak of. Show me how you control for poverty, debt, gentrification, police profiling, crack, unemployment, the state of inner city schools...and then we will talk about race IQ gaps. I'd be surprised if a real experiment found a gap of more than a few points across the board.

There are studies that control for socio-economic factors, and the gaps persist. And it's not just a few points.

Are you mad that white people are not privileged enough?
Or are you mad that Asians have business savvy?
Or what else...

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(03-08-2013 12:30 AM)janthuffy Wrote: Their cultures are an expression of their genes. Stop acting as if they are two completely separate things.

Wrong. Cultures are a function of both genes and environment both past and present. Culture is limited not by IQ but by the bounty of food, resources and trade. The ancient egyptians where black and they where the most culturally advanced civilization of their time. But that has nothing to do with fact that they had some of the most fertile flood plains in the ancient world right?

(03-08-2013 12:30 AM)janthuffy Wrote: There are studies that control for socio-economic factors, and the gaps persist. And it's not just a few points.

(03-08-2013 12:14 AM)ridethespiral Wrote: The Asian population is small compared to the white population and it is less rural and one can make a strong case for Asian Americans largely being an exception having a long Confucian tradition, India's technical colleges, linguistic constructs that aid in math skill development, etc.

Their cultures are an expression of their genes. Stop acting as if they are two completely separate things.

That is an incorrect statement. The details of culture are historical, not genetic.

Where exactly is the 'work hard so as not to shame your family' gene?

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I feel sad - I've never been privileged, I feel like I missed out. Always been poor and family always struggled to even make the bills - weeks late.

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(03-08-2013 12:30 AM)janthuffy Wrote: Their cultures are an expression of their genes. Stop acting as if they are two completely separate things.

That is an incorrect statement. The details of culture are historical, not genetic.

Where exactly is the 'work hard so as not to shame your family' gene?

It is right next to the gene that causes this:

And just before the one which causes psychosis relating to high expectations.

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(03-08-2013 12:30 AM)janthuffy Wrote: Their cultures are an expression of their genes. Stop acting as if they are two completely separate things.

That is an incorrect statement. The details of culture are historical, not genetic.

Where exactly is the 'work hard so as not to shame your family' gene?

There may not be a specific gene per se, but rather there are genes that predispose particular behavioral traits that can influence the nature of particular populations of people, and thus their culture.

(03-08-2013 05:58 AM)Chas Wrote: That is an incorrect statement. The details of culture are historical, not genetic.

Where exactly is the 'work hard so as not to shame your family' gene?

There may not be a specific gene per se, but rather there are genes that predispose particular behavioral traits that can influence the nature of particular populations of people, and thus their culture.

Your understanding of genetics is seriously incorrect.

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