Projecting the ECAC is hard to do sometimes, but 4 of 5 Harvard's top scoring forwards from last season all graduated this summer which may lead to a drop in the standings unless other players help fill that void. Harvard does get the addition of F Jack Badini (Ducks 3rd round pick 2017) and D Reilly Walsh (Devils 3rd round pick 2017).

Based on the World Junior Summer Showcase, the WJCs this year are going to be a coming out party for him where he will be one of the marquee players for the United States.

Mattson was going to be a project when he was drafted and his draft+1 year proved it. Inconsistent season in the USHL which resulted in a meh year.

He was also scheduled to play for North Dakota this season, BUT the Sioux City Stampede of the USHL traded a 1st round pick (3rd overall) in the USHL Phase II draft and a player for Mattson this past May. This indicates that playing in North Dakota for 2017/18 might not be as firm as once thought and he might be playing in the USHL again next season.

Not necessarily a bad thing to delay going to the NCAA another year. UND is one of the top programs in the NCAA that attracts a lot of top players. If Mattson struggles, it may be difficult for UND to give him the ice time for him to develop.

What are the odds that Fox stays NCAA for 4 years and becomes free agent.
I would think low since he may outgrow it quicker than say ..
Jankowski or Gaudreau.
Whatever these odds are .. were they the main reason his draft position dropped from expected.
only questions today - I have no answers

What are the odds that Fox stays NCAA for 4 years and becomes free agent.
I would think low since he may outgrow it quicker than say ..
Jankowski or Gaudreau.
Whatever these odds are .. were they the main reason his draft position dropped from expected.
only questions today - I have no answers

According to Darren Haynes only 2 of the last 19 Harvard players drafted left early, but I think Fox will be one of those exceptions. Fox is just too good to stay the full 4 years and I can't see him losing out on potentially 2 years of NHL earnings.

According to Darren Haynes only 2 of the last 19 Harvard players drafted left early, but I think Fox will be one of those exceptions. Fox is just too good to stay the full 4 years and I can't see him losing out on potentially 2 years of NHL earnings.

It's too bad Haynes didn't include the other players in question. I've tried to find it, but can't easily find a list of players who were both NHL drafted and played at Harvard.

Haynes did miss Louis Leblanc on his list. Leblanc signed with the Habs after one year at Harvard, where (like Fox) he won Ivy League Rookie of the Year.

Using hockeydb.com, I was able to find 14 players who were drafted since 1995, played at Harvard, and have played at least one NHL game:

Craig Adams

Chris Bala

Alex Biega

Danny Biega

Tom Cavanagh

Alexander Killorn

Louis Leblanc

Craig MacDonald

Sean Malone

Dominic Moore

Steve Moore

Dylan Reese

Jimmy Vesey

Noah Welch

It's difficult to draw any conclusions by comparing those players to Fox since it's not exactly a list of superstars. Steve Moore is the only one who was a point-a-game player as a (19 year-old) freshman. Some of them never hit a point-a-game at Harvard.

I would bet that most of those players weren't even offered an NHL contract until after their fourth year.

According to Darren Haynes only 2 of the last 19 Harvard players drafted left early, but I think Fox will be one of those exceptions. Fox is just too good to stay the full 4 years and I can't see him losing out on potentially 2 years of NHL earnings.

They could trade Michael Stone next off-season assuming they believe Fox or Andersson is ready to take over. He has a 15 team no trade list but he should still be trade-able assuming he doesn't suck hard this season.

The CBA says that a team holds a player's rights for 4 years after the draft if he becomes a College player within 2 years after his draft. If he's pushing back college for another year, that means he won't play a college game until more than 2 years after his draft.

Do the Flames' rights expire next June like they would with a player drafted out of the CHL, or is he still considered a College player because he declared his intent to go to UND, even though he has deferred entry for a couple of years?

The CBA says that a team holds a player's rights for 4 years after the draft if he becomes a College player within 2 years after his draft. If he's pushing back college for another year, that means he won't play a college game until more than 2 years after his draft.

Do the Flames' rights expire next June like they would with a player drafted out of the CHL, or is he still considered a College player because he declared his intent to go to UND, even though he has deferred entry for a couple of years?

Might be a unique case that the Flames will need special dispensation from the NHL and NHLPA.

Even if they don't retain his rights, it is probably not that big a loss given his progression so far.

The College hockey season got underway this weekend. However, Harvard doesn't play its first game for another few weeks.

They play an exhibition game against the US Under-18 team on October 21, and their regular season begins the following week, on October 29 vs Dartmouth.

Boston University played its first regular season game against Union yesterday. Of note, Brady Tkachuk (Matthew's younger brother) and Ty Amonte (Tony's son) both made their freshman debuts for BU. Tkachuk had one assist and 7 shots in BU's 4-1 win. Hickey had no points in the game.