Issues

Out of a discussion of {goi} it seems to be a popular notion to change the definition of da'o. The redefinition is detailed here. In summary
1) da'o is moved to selma'o UI. DAhO is almost UI anyway.
2) The variable da'o is attached to has its assignment cleared. It is far more common to want to clear one assignment than to clear all of them.
3) da'onai means this: the variable da'onai is attached to retains its assignment and all other variables are cleared.
4) da'oda'o means that all variables have their assignments cleared.

cmavo: ra'o (DAhO)

Proposed Definition

This flags a GOhA that all the pro-assignments in the current bridi should be re-evaluated in the speaker's current context.

See Also

Proposed Keywords

pro-assigns update

Usage Examples

A: .i mi na birti lo su'u mi kakne lo nu mi xamgu ke fonxa cusku bau la lojban
B: mi go'i
B: ra'o
A: I am not sure I am able to speak Lojban well on the phone.
B: I am not sure either.
B: ... that I will be able to speak Lojban well on the phone.

Issues

cmavo: soi (SOI)

Proposed Definition

This discursive indicates reciprocal relationship between sumti in this bridi. It corresponds to vice-versa in English. If followed by two sumti, it indicates that those two sumti may be swapped in the bridi and the bridi will remain true. If only followed by one sumti, the second sumti is inferred the be the sumti immediately before soi. Its ellidible terminator is {se'u}.

See Also

Proposed Keywords

reciprocal

vice-versa

Usage Examples

.i mi tavla do soi vo'a
I talk to you, and vice versa.
We talk to each other.

mi ze'u na'e tavla do soi vo'a

We haven't talked to each other in a long time (vensa - IRC on 28 Jan 2010 11:25:30)

Issues

Chapter *20*, of all places, in the CLL says that {mi prami do soi mi} is legal, but Chapter 7 doesn't really say that, quite.

There has been discussion about whether soi changes the referral distance of vo'V. Not sure if it should go here though

[1] - Xod: vo'a was usually intended as long-distance when alone, and usually short-distance when used with soi.

[2] - Nick Nicholas: So vo'a *may* end in practice being defined as [...] short-distance when context favours that reading -- for instance, soi vo'a.

[3] - And Rosta translates a Lojban sentence in a way that implies that he things vo'a is long-distance, regardless of soi.

[4] - Nick Nicholas' position on vo'a: long-distance by default, can be forced short-distance in _syntactic_ contexts, ie. after soi.

Notes

There has been some discussion on how long da-series cmavo stay bound, ie. whether or not they are always canceled by sentence boundaries not joined by connectives. This, however, has no bearing on da'o, which cancels unconditionally.

Impact

There is a proposal to change {da'o} documented here.

Proposals

There is a proposal by selpa'i to repurpose {soi} into something more useful. See this page for a description of the change.