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Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

The Ravens OL had a terrible game IMO. Flacco was regularly pressured/sacked/ had passes batted down. I'll wait for Film Study's assessment, but I thought Bobbie Williams in particular looked horrible. He was beaten badly numerous times.

Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

I dunno, I thought the O-line was pretty good. All those guys
breezing by Joe on the right and left and up the middle
and up his ass were JOe's fault. He held
on to the ball too long. He can't read blitzes. He can't read double coverage. He can't read single coverage. He can't hit receivers
when they can't get separation. CAM abandoned the run too
early - AGAIN!

Oher and KO are the best linemen in the universe. Birk is the
best aging Center that ever played.

Did someone say Bobby Williams? I thought that was Gary
Williams out there. They might as well try him. They tried
everyone else. He's Bisciotti's pal and couldn't do any worse.
He's old like Birk too.

Anyway, I'm not a doubter. No, not me. I'm with the OP.

THE ABOVE WAS A PAID RAVENS ANNOUNCEMENT FILLED WITH
SATIRE, SARCASM, SYMBOLISM, AND COVERT ASS KICKING.

Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

Biggest reason they lost today is right here. They need to end the Oher LT experiment. Reid is no better at LG than either guy before him. Osemele needs to be inside. Birk needs to retire. This is a unit that is flat out bad and will continue to be the offenses achilles heel. No one man ever is the reason a team loses a game but the Oher at LT experiment has basically cost us two games against our biggest rival. That is unacceptable. LT must be the primary focus in the draft, bad thing is they'll still be picking mid-late 20's, so doubtful they can get a really solid player there.

Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

Back in Sept I was optimistic about the O line, thinking Harewood would develop, B Williams would heal, etc. OK, I'm an idiot.

Look at this ragbag group:

C: Birk is a wonderful man; he deserves a rich and rewarding retirement. Immediately. But behind him we have no one remotely ready to step in.
LG: Apparently, Harewood was Moeller's ill-timed April Fools joke? Jah Reid? MAYBE he'll make it, but he has neither the physique nor the experience for the position.
RG: Yanda is top quality, (but he has begun to suffer some pretty frequent injuries)
RT: KO has potential, somewhere on the line, but is still learning to play at an NFL level. If he's better than Reid at RT, then Reid is a bit of a bust, no?
LT: Oher isn't good enough to be an LT on this team. Forget the short arms, guard build, etc. With Flacco's slow release and lack of pocket presence, we need a very good LT. Oher might be "pretty good," but he is not "very good."

And our depth? The young players we are developing? After Gino, who is there?

Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

the FO and harbaugh mostly need to stop bullshittin, Mckinney back at LT and put Oher back at RT slide KO to LG. fuck all this dog house shit we need to put flacco in a better position, this shit right here aint cutting it, fuckin harbaugh is a stubborn mule!

Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

Originally Posted by Jsmoove

the FO and harbaugh mostly need to stop bullshittin, Mckinney back at LT and put Oher back at RT slide KO to LG. fuck all this dog house shit we need to put flacco in a better position, this shit right here aint cutting it, fuckin harbaugh is a stubborn mule!

This. As long as we're winning, no one cares about the doghouse. But when the losses start piling up there needs to be an intervention.

Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

They aren't going to put McKinnie in at this point. That ship has sailed. If they were going to do it, it'd be done by now. That should have been done weeks ago, to start the season to be honest, they have to live with it now. It will be three hours of pure comedy watching Oher try to block Von Miller and Jason Pierre Paul, and Birk try to block Geno Atkins.

The thing that concerns me the most is that there are no reinforcements, as has been mentioned. McKinnie, Birk, and Williams are almost certainly not going to be here next year. Harewood probably won't be either. Nobody knows if Gradkowski is going to be good or not. They have literally nobody else in the wings and that is troubling.

I'm hoping next year, the line is ???-Osemele-Gradkowski-Yanda-Oher, think that is an improvement, but the ??? just happens to be at the most critical position on the offensive line. WickedSolo, I know you are a draft guy, now that the collegiate season is done, what kind of LTs are going to be out there in the draft this year that the Ravens could have a reasonable shot at and could come in and play right away?

Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

Me thinks Ozzie will live and die with Oher at left tackle, mostly die,, and he'll give him a big pay day to boot. That was the intent ever since he turned in the card. You know, the Blind Side Guy. ILMAO.

Back to Gino the Giant, he wouldn't have done any better vs that pressure last night.

Re: So, any OL doubters turning into believers now?

Am I the only person who feels like the o-line played absolutely fine last night? No QB should have the expectation of 5+ seconds in the pocket. Flacco's pocket awareness was terrible, but the o-line sure as hell gave him plenty of time.