“This is my second time working with Declan as a director,” Taylor Swift says to start off the second behind-the-scenes webisode of her new ‘Ours’ video. In the first part of the series, Swift briefly introduced the video’s director, Declan Whitebloom, who also directed the video for ‘Mean.’ In this clip, she explains in detail why she’s so comfortable being in cahoots with him.

“I wrote the treatment for the ['Ours'] video, which is the storyline and the details of it, and he directed it — so it was very collaborative,” Swift says in the short video below. “I had a very definitive idea as to what I wanted this video to be, so I just wrote it and I sent it to him, and he called and was like, ‘I’m so excited. Let’s do it.’”

And so the creative pair found themselves filming yet another music video together. In the making of the video footage seen here, viewers can spy Whitebloom coaching the singer on specific facial expressions, consulting with her on the set and, of course, having a few laughs.

“When Taylor says, ‘I’ve got an idea,’ you listen to what she’s gonna say! And so I did, and it was a great idea and I loved it,” he says in the piece, later adding that he “knew it was gonna be a good experience” and that their balance of trust is what made the project work.

Check out the behind-the-scenes vignette to see what else Swift has to say about her time working with him. Be sure to return to Taste of Country tomorrow and beyond, as this installment is only part two of a total of 13 webisodes.