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Fri, 09 Dec 2016 22:42:00 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.2By: abnerbhattahttp://www.historynet.com/soviet-prisoners-of-war-forgotten-nazi-victims-of-world-war-ii.htm#comment-5177613
Wed, 23 Nov 2016 23:52:00 +0000#comment-5177613Julius & Ethel Rosenberg gave atomic or nuclear weapons secrets to Commie USSR & thus we had cold war with former USSR. Other things, it’s not controversial to say that the last time PM Ariel Sharon made love was in 1971 or that Golda Meir was womenopausal (menopausal) when she was PM. It’s also not controversial to say that Menachem Begin was impotent. Yet the Holocaust is a topic where if you say Holocaust isn’t much different from other war atrocities, then controversy.

I don’t want any ethnic group exterminated. There are many talented Jewish people such as Stephen A. Spielberg, those who created Marvel & DC Comics, 3 stooges, Twilight Zone & as posters know I have watched all episodes of Bewitched, I dream of Jeannie, Honeymooners, Twilight Zone & Incredible Hulk-those shows often had Jewish producers & sometimes Jewish actors such as actor who played Abner & Gladys Kravitz on Bewitched, JE Gleason of Honeymooners & Rodman Edward Serling of Twilight Zone. When I was a boy in 1970s & early 1980s, I liked watching Laverne & Shirley along with Happy Days, Jewish & Jewess actors.

I also as posters know listen to music by Ariana Grande, Meghan Elizabeth Trainor, Lady Gaga, Justin Drew Bieber etc. who often have Jewish music executives. I don’t want Jews exterminated, because then we lose so many talented people. But I don’t think I’m a Nazi because I don’t think Holocaust is much different from other war atrocities & I don’t think I’m a Nazi because I support the Commissar Order. Most people who were killed by the Nazis were not Jewish. I also didn’t say that most Soviet henchmen & henchwomen were Jewish as most of the Soviet henchmen & henchwomen were non-Jewish Slavs & most people who the Nazis killed were Slavs.

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Wed, 23 Nov 2016 23:51:00 +0000#comment-5177612Most partisans or resistance fighters in Poland, USSR, Italy, France & other nations which were invaded by Nazi Germany were gentiles. Quite a few partisans or guerrillas were Communists. Some French resistance fighters were Communists & some Polish partisans were Commies. Partisans were often not nice people. Partisans sometimes kill Nazi collaborators but they also sometimes killed the Nazi collaborators small kids. It’s wrong for partisans to kill a 5 year old girl or boy because the parents were Nazi collaborators, as kids are innocent of their parents deeds. The fact many partisans were Communists & the fact that some partisans killed 5 year old kids are reasons why they’re no better than the Nazis though the partisans were fighting against an invading Nazi military whose interest was lebensraum or living room.

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Wed, 23 Nov 2016 23:49:00 +0000#comment-5177610Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Axis Japan were greedy but they were not cowards & Axis Japanese soldiers fought and died for what they believed & Fascist Italian soldiers fought & died for what they wanted. Nazi German soldiers fought and died for what they wanted. Nazis were greedy but they fought & died for what they wanted and you Nazi soldiers did have courage fighting in battles such as Kursk, Nazi soldiers were not cowards, in that in Stalingrad & Leningrad battles, you must have courage. German Nazi soldiers talk of how they destroyed 3 Soviet tanks in battle.

Hitler exploited fact that Poles & Czechs mistreated German neighbors to justify his greed. Of course most Germans living in Czechoslovakia & Poland supported Nazis because among other reasons, they no longer wanted to be mistreated by their neighbors. In worst cases, ethnic violence was committed by Poles & Czechs (more so by Poles)against their German neighbors for years. Polish writings from 1848 talked about how Germans are lower than dogs, among other things. If Poles & Czechs better treated their German neighbors, then instead of 95% of Germans living in Poland & Czechoslovakia supporting Nazis, the # would have been less. Hitler would have still invaded, but @least there would’ve been more Germans opposing the Nazis than supporting their invasion.

Nazi Germany had no right to invade Poland, no right to take Czechoslovakia by war declaration threat (violating 1938 Munich Agreement with Sudeten) as their motive was lebensraum , Germans living in Poland & Czechoslovakia were poorly treated by their Polish & Czech neighbors (Germans sometimes took Polish & Czech names to try to avoid persecution) & in some cases there was violence committed by Poles & Czechs against their German neighbors in Poland & Czechoslovakia. Hitler would have invaded Poland regardless but if Polish treatment of their German neighbors had been good, then fewer Germans living in Poland would have supported Nazi invasion. Again, while Nazi Germany had no right to invade Poland, etc. as they were doing that mainly for Nazi Germany’s interest against others, Germans were poorly treated in Poland for many years, long before Hitler was born.

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Wed, 23 Nov 2016 23:49:00 +0000#comment-5177611I read Prof RJ Evans book 3d Reich @ war for second time & my thoughts. I agree with most of what Prof. RJ Evans says when he talks about Adolf Hitler wanting lebensraum or living room & Nazi Germany’s invasions of Poland, former Yugoslavia & USSR were to do things for Germany’s interests @ expense of Slavs. Germans would settle in these places, Slavs would have limited education & do things for German’s interests. Adolf Hitler knew many would die in WW2 & he didn’t care if Slavs starved to death, etc.

With did Nazi Germany have plans to exterminate Jews, Prof. RJ Evans in book among other things talks of radio broadcasts given by Adolf Hitler, Paul J. Goebbells diary, along with Henrich Luitpold Himmler’s comments where they talk of Jewish deaths, so Adolf Hitler along with many Germans would have known about Nazi soldiers Wehrmacht, Einsatzgruppen, German militias & in some cases Ukrainians & others shooting and killing Jewish men, women & kids on Eastern Front. Adolf Hitler made no secret about fact that many Jews would die in concentration camps & ghettos because if you put millions of people in camps, don’t give enough food, H20, etc. many die. Prof. RJ Evans is right that Nazis believed Gypsies, Slavs, Jews, etc. were subhumans & that highest ethnic groups were Germans and Scandinavians. Professor RJ Evans is right on these things, though I don’t agree with him on all. & here’s where I don’t agree with him.

I don’t believe Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of people in gas vans. Adolf Hitler refused to use nerve gases such as Sarin, Tabun and Soman which are deadlier than Zyklon B and carbon monoxide. Now do I think Nazis killed people in gas vans? I believe the Nazis in some cases did kill people in experimental gassings & I can believe the Nazis killed 200 people in gas chambers. But I don’t believe the #s are hundreds of thousands, because Nazis had easier ways to kill people such as starving & working people to death, shootings, beatings & lethal injections. There are hundreds of cases where Nazis killed prisoners in experiments such as cooling, high altitude, malaria & wounds. Sometimes prisoners survived such as seaH20 tests. Nazi Drs. took pictures of these experiments.

But there are no photos of Nazis taking pictures of prisoners being gassed which is why I don’t believe hundreds of thousands were killed. Prof. RJ Evans in book says that Auschwitz commandant Rudolf Franz Ferdinand Hoess and Heinrich Luitpold Himmler witnessed people being gassed & that Nazis destroyed gas vans, but it’s odd that they wouldn’t photograph this while photographing experiments & it’s odd Nazis wouldn’t destroy proof of things like experiments.

In book, Professor RJ Evans talks about other things about how Hitler & other Nazis talk of how Germany lost WW1 because of Jews and that it was war against Bolshevik Jews, with Slavs being tools working with Churchill & Roosevelt. Professor RJ Evans didn’t mention this but many Soviet henchmen & henchwomen were Jewish & millions of people were starved & worked to death, killed by shootings, etc. in Soviet Gulags because of Jewish Soviet Commies such as LM Kaganovitch, GG Yagoda, etc. in 1930s called Holdomor. & some of Lenin’s henchmen such as Leon Trotsky were Jewish.

Did Holocaust happen because of Holodomor ? Among the millions who were starved & worked to death in Soviet Gulags in Holodomor, this includes thousands of Germans living in USSR. Adolf Hitler, Goebbels used words like eye for eye & tooth for tooth. 1 could say that Hitler went with view that since Commie Jews sent Aryans, etc. to starvation deaths in Soviet Gulags, that Nazis would put millions of Jews in concentration camps & ghettos where they were starved & worked to death such as building Trans Saharan railroad (Africa campaign), the same way as Volga Germans in 1930s were starved & worked to death working on Trans Siberian railway. Soviet Gulag eg. would be Dubno, Kolyma & Krasnogorsk which were run by Jews. Yes, Jews were a group involved in committing Soviet Holocaust called Holodomor 10 years before Nazi Holocaust. Nazi Holocaust was wrong as it’s wrong to send millions of people to death in ghettos & concentration camps. Only saying that Jews were not always innocent and Jews committed Soviet Holocaust which killed more & Nazis believed they committed Holocaust because of Holodomor.

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Tue, 20 Sep 2016 11:58:00 +0000#comment-5177465Nazi Germany had no right to invade Poland, no right to take Czechoslovakia by war declaration threat (violating 1938 Munich Agreement with Sudeten) as their motive was lebensraum , Germans living in Poland & Czechoslovakia were poorly treated by their Polish & Czech neighbors (Germans sometimes took Polish & Czech names to try to avoid persecution) & in some cases there was violence committed by Poles & Czechs against their German neighbors in Poland & Czechoslovakia. Hitler would have invaded Poland regardless but if Polish treatment of their German neighbors had been good, then fewer Germans living in Poland would have supported Nazi invasion. Again, while Nazi Germany had no right to invade Poland, etc. as they were doing that mainly for Nazi Germany’s interest against others, Germans were poorly treated in Poland for many years, long before Hitler was born.

Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Axis Japan were greedy but they were not cowards. Axis Japanese soldiers fought and died for what they believed, Fascist Italian soldiers fought & died for what they wanted. Nazi German soldiers fought and died for what they wanted. Nazis were greedy but they fought & died for what they wanted and Nazi soldiers did have courage fighting in battles such as Kursk, Stalingrad & Leningrad battles, you must have courage. German Nazi soldiers talk of how they destroyed 3 Soviet tanks

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Sat, 17 Sep 2016 13:46:00 +0000#comment-5177451I’ve thought about this and I don’t think Holocaust is much different from other atrocities. All wars are about exterminating enemies until 1 gets what they want be it land, water, etc. Nazi Germany’s policy towards Jews was an exterminating war, but I don’t think it’s extermination no matter what. ‘Three days after the Wannsee Conference, January 23, 1942, Hitler told his associates: The Jew must clear out of Europe. Otherwise no understanding will be possible between Europeans restrict myself to telling them they must go away. If they break their pipes on the journey, I can’t do anything about it. But if they refuse to go voluntarily, I see no other solution but extermination. Hitler added: A good three or four hundred years will go by before the Jews set foot again in Europe. They return first of all as commercial travelers, then gradually they become emboldened to settle here the better to exploit.’

From this, Adolf Hitler talks in no codes though Wannsee Conference was written in codes. He says that if Jews refuse to go, that they would be exterminated. Hitler’s view would be that if let’s say the Jews & Gypsies lived in India (Gypsies originally are from India) that he wouldn’t care, but that they would be exterminated if they refused. This alone is bad which would be an exterminating war, but I don’t think it’s exterminate no matter what.

In book 3rd Reich @ War, Professor RJ Evans talks about other things about how Hitler & other Nazis talk of how Germany lost WW1 because of Jews and that it was war against Bolshevik Jews, with Slavs being tools working with Churchill & Roosevelt. Professor RJ Evans didn’t mention this but many Soviet henchmen & henchwomen were Jewish & millions of people were starved & worked to death, killed by shootings, etc. in Soviet Gulags because of Jewish Soviet Commies such as LM Kaganovitch, GG Yagoda, etc. in 1930s called Holdomor. & some of Lenin’s henchmen such as Leon Trotsky were Jewish.

Did Holocaust happen because of Holodomor ? Among the millions who were starved & worked to death in Soviet Gulags in Holodomor, this includes thousands of Germans living in USSR. Adolf Hitler, Goebbels used words like eye for eye & tooth for tooth. 1 could say that Hitler went with view that since Commie Jews sent Aryans, etc. to starvation deaths in Soviet Gulags, that Nazis would put millions of Jews in concentration camps & ghettos where they were starved & worked to death such as building Trans Saharan railroad (Africa campaign), the same way as Volga Germans in 1930s were starved & worked to death working on Trans Siberian railway. Soviet Gulag eg. would be Dubno, Kolyma & Krasnogorsk which were run by Jews. Yes, Jews were a group involved in committing Soviet Holocaust called Holodomor 10 years before Nazi Holocaust. Nazi Holocaust was wrong as it’s wrong to send millions of people to death in ghettos & concentration camps. Only saying that Jews were not always innocent and Jews committed Soviet Holocaust which killed more & Nazis believed they committed Holocaust because of Holodomor.

Adolf Hitler refused to use nerve gases Sarin, Tabun and Soman. do I think Nazis killed people in gas vans Nazis in some cases did kill people in experimental gassings & can believe the Nazis killed 200 people in gas chambers. But I don’t believe the #s are hundreds of thousands, because Nazis had easier ways to kill people such as starving & working people to death, shootings, beatings & lethal injections. There are hundreds of cases where Nazis killed prisoners in experiments such as cooling, high altitude, malaria & wounds. Sometimes prisoners survived such as sea H20 tests. Nazi Drs. took pictures of these experiments. But there are no photos of Nazis taking pictures of prisoners being gassed which is why I don’t believe hundreds of thousands were killed. Prof. RJ Evans in book says that Auschwitz commandant Rudolf Franz Ferdinand Hoess and Heinrich Luitpold Himmler witnessed people being gassed & that Nazis destroyed gas vans, but it’s odd that they wouldn’t photograph this while photographing experiments.

Nazi Alois Brunner in 1987 (hiding in Syria) interview said that he did not know of gas vans until he read newspapers after war. Alois Brunner said that he would do it again in that he would send Jews & others to concentration camps & ghettos where many would die of starvation (if you put millions & not enough food many starve to death which is bad by itself), but he didn’t know of gas vans. Alois Brunner believed that Germans were the greatest with Slavs doing things for German interests. Alois Brunner knew again that many Jews would die of starvation deaths in concentration camps & ghettoes. Alois Brunner also knew that Wehrmacht, Einsatzgruppen & their allies shot and killed Jewish men, Jewess women & kids such as Babi Yar. But Alois Brunner said that he didn’t know of gas vans until he read newspapers after war. Alois Brunner said he’d do it again because he believed that since Soviet Jewish Commie henchmen & henchwomen could send millions of people to starvation deaths in Soviet Gulags like Dubno, Kolyma, Krasnogorsk, then Nazi Germans could put Jews in concentration camps & ghettos where people starve to death & in some cases, people were worked to death. Alois Brunner also knew that German soldiers raped Jewess women. Alois Brunner excused this as war.

While I don’t agree with all that Prof. RJ Evans wrote in 3rd Reich @ War, I agree with him on most things such as lebensraum. Prof. RJ Evans is a good historian who is right on most things, though I don’t agree with all he wrote. It’s best to study history as juror & decide what you think happened & what you about. With Commisar Order where Soviet Comissars & partisans were executed by Nazis. Many partisans were Commies as the Soviet Comissars were. Soviet Comissars & partisans were often thugs. While partisans were fighting against invading Nazis, it would be dishonest to say the partisans were nice people as many partisans were Communists & Communism is tyranny.

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Sun, 01 May 2016 18:15:00 +0000#comment-5176870Was the Commissar Order justified ? As it is a war, the Soviet Red Army Commissars were Communists and some of them did Soviet Holodomor in 1930s, where many Ukrainians, Latvians and others killed in Ukrainian Famine. Soviet Red Army Commissars often killed people who were against Communism and many Soviet citizens killed, starved and worked to deaths in Gulags such as Dubno, Krasnogorsk, or forced to work in Kolyma which is north of Arctic Circle. Red Army Commissars also forced people to work in building the TransSiberian Railways. As Soviet Red Army Commissars were thugs who killed many people including kids, then was the Keitel Commissar Order justified ?
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Sun, 01 May 2016 18:06:00 +0000#comment-5176869-my view always has & will be that the atom bombs should have been dropped elsewhere in Japan with fewer deaths (3 year old German, Japanese & Italian kids are innocent) but they did speed end of war. If Japan, Germany & Italy had the atom bombs they would’ve used them against us & we may still be dealing with them today.

Adolf Hitler was a tyrant, but he was interesting & don’t think Adolf Hitler approved of gas vans as Adolf Hitler refused to use nerve gases which are deadlier than Zyklon B. Adolf Hitler had fascination with these animals. Adolf Hitler fascinated by birds such as ravens, crows & eagles with eagle being national symbol of Germany. Adolf Hitler also had fascination with dogs, wolves, deer & if you look @ German tanks there were Panthers & Tiger tanks. Adolf Hitler & his wife Eva Braun both fascinated with animals & Wagner operas.

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Wed, 27 Apr 2016 23:05:00 +0000#comment-5176842Adolf Hitler was a tyrant, but he was interesting & don’t think Adolf Hitler approved of gas vans as Adolf Hitler refused to use nerve gases which are deadlier than Zyklon B. Adolf Hitler had fascination with these animals. Adolf Hitler fascinated by birds such as ravens, crows & eagles with eagle being national symbol of Germany. Adolf Hitler also had fascination with dogs, wolves, deer & if you look @ German tanks there were Panthers & Tiger tanks. Adolf Hitler & his wife Eva Braun both fascinated with animals & Wagner operas.
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Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:23:00 +0000#comment-5176648Another thing is that in both concentration camps & ghettos there were brothels which Prof. RJ Evans wrote in 3rd Reich @ War. Nazi Germans wanted to limit entertainment of Poles, Gypsies, etc. to sex & limit their education as Slavs were to do things for Nazi Germany’s interests. English wasn’t 1st language. With Holocaust or any topic, I am juror. I read books Dachau (Dachau museum), Hubris & Nemesis by Prof. Kershaw, 3rd Reich @ War by Prof. RJ Evans, visited USHMM website & then decide what I think happened. I don’t accept all as true which I read. With Holocaust deaths, yes, millions of Jews, Gypsies, etc. were put in ghettos & concentration camps where they were starved & worked to death-same way as millions died in Soviet GULag Dubno, Kolyma, Krasnogorsk & Workuta where people were starved & worked to death building among other things the TransSiberian railway. Yes, Adolf Hitler knew that there wouldn’t be enough food for people in concentration camps & ghettos & he knew many would die. That is consistent with extermination.

Possible Hitler did not know of gas vans because I don’t think he would approve of Zyklon B gas while rejecting deadlier nerve gases. I believe individual gassings with Zyklon B (along with Carbon Monoxide) happened in the camps & ghettos, but I do not believe mass gassings happened. I don’t think Adolf Hitler knew who JR Mengele was.

I think most people who died in concentration camps & ghettos were starved & worked to death which alone is bad, but think only some were killed by gas & experiments. I am not White, so not a Nazi. I have found that there are people who see things same way. US Holocaust Museum has to know that we will decide after visiting their site what we think happened & won’t believe everything said. There’s even 1 Jewish man David Cole Stein who got condemned as a Nazi because he doesn’t believe everything said about Holocaust. People like me will conclude on what we think happened. What I wonder with Holocaust is how many people say they agree with eg. all of US Holocaust Museum’s conclusions because they believe this & how many don’t agree with all of US Holocaust Museum’s conclusions but don’t talk because they don’t want to be condemned as Nazis? I believe only a few were killed by gassing & it’s more common for Nazi soldiers to have raped Jewess & Gypsy women in the ghettos & concentration camps which is bad by itself.

Adolf Hitler did say that he wanted Endlossung or Final Solution to get rid of Jews. Adolf Hitler didn’t care if Jews died in concentration camps in that he said that there would not be enough food & many would die. It’s possible though that he wanted ethniccleaning when he said Final Solution but not extermination while his henchmen believed Final Solution to mean extermination. Adolf Hitler made no secret about wanting lebensraum & Hitler had authorized T4, Commissar Order, etc., that Himmler, Heydrich, etc. believed there was no need to give extermination order with regard to Jews.

Only Adolf Hitler knew, but it’s possible with Final Solution, Adolf Hitler wanted ethniccleaning but not extermination. What I know with no doubt is that Adolf Hitler wanted Jews to be gone & that he does say that if Jews refuse to leave, they’ll be exterminated. That is found with ethnic cleaning policies which have happened many times in history.

The only person who knew his intent was Adolf Hitler. What I do know is Adolf Hitler wanted the Jews to be gone. I have again read books by RJ Evans (3rd Reich @ War), Kershaw’s Nemesis & Hubris, also have visited the US Holocaust Museum website. BUT EVEN AFTER reading the 3 books and visiting US Holocaust Museum website, I STILL THINK that we will never know Adolf Hitler’s true motives when it came to Jews & I do not believe historians can know with no doubt. I can say w/o doubt that Hitler wanted ethnic cleaning of Jews, while his henchmen Heinrich Lutipold Himmler, Reinhard Tristan Eugen Heydrich, etc. did extermination. But I can’t say w/o doubt what Adolf Hitler’s motive was because only he knew. Possible Adolf Hitler wanted ethnic cleaning not extermination because only he knew his motive. Being humble not haughty.

Adolf Hitler believed Germans, Scandinavians & Italians were best. During lebensborn, Heinrich Lutipold Himmler pushed things such as Nazis taking Czech children, Polish children during war and having them raised by German families-Germanized. Don’t believe Adolf Hitler approved of this since Poles, Czechs, etc. would be Slavs and do not believe Adolf Hitler would want Germans to raise Slav children as Slavs would be Untermensch, so think this part of Lebensborn was done without Hitler’s approval but by Himmler.