Hmm, possibly Republican government, but banning the filming of cops has been across the board. Let's just take a look...

5 of 6 GOP, and of course we're doing it. And the California bill is GOP introduced. Can't get in the way of profits now can we Republicans? Must pray to the all mighty dollar. I wonder which odious piece of shiat introduced our version of it. Oh ALEC, I should have known.

GAT_00:Hmm, possibly Republican government, but banning the filming of cops has been across the board. Let's just take a look...

5 of 6 GOP, and of course we're doing it. And the California bill is GOP introduced. Can't get in the way of profits now can we Republicans? Must pray to the all mighty dollar. I wonder which odious piece of shiat introduced our version of it. Oh ALEC, I should have known.

What is that stream of consciousness? Beat poetery?

In case you didn't realize it the SCOTUS let stand a lower Court's decision about videotaping police in public is always allowed.

feckingmorons:GAT_00: Hmm, possibly Republican government, but banning the filming of cops has been across the board. Let's just take a look...

5 of 6 GOP, and of course we're doing it. And the California bill is GOP introduced. Can't get in the way of profits now can we Republicans? Must pray to the all mighty dollar. I wonder which odious piece of shiat introduced our version of it. Oh ALEC, I should have known.

What is that stream of consciousness? Beat poetery?

In case you didn't realize it the SCOTUS let stand a lower Court's decision about videotaping police in public is always allowed.

1. they are police2. its in public

Slaughterhouses are on private lands where civilians work.

/Just pointing that out. I am not taking a side in this post. Please accept this as neutral.

feckingmorons:Those who mistreat animals, even the animals we use as food are scumbags.

Yeah, this.I don't have any moral issue with eating meat as I simply don't believe (no matter how much I love my pets) that animals are equivalent to persons, but I'm certainly not callous enough to think that they don't feel pain. I don't want my meat tortured before I eat it, and anyone who would do such a thing must have a sense of empathy that is defective on an almost sociopathic level. It is often mentioned (and it is true) that animal torture is a common behavior for young psycho/sociopaths.

Gawdzila:feckingmorons: Those who mistreat animals, even the animals we use as food are scumbags.

Yeah, this.I don't have any moral issue with eating meat as I simply don't believe (no matter how much I love my pets) that animals are equivalent to persons, but I'm certainly not callous enough to think that they don't feel pain. I don't want my meat tortured before I eat it, and anyone who would do such a thing must have a sense of empathy that is defective on an almost sociopathic level. It is often mentioned (and it is true) that animal torture is a common behavior for young psycho/sociopaths.

It's also a common behavior for those who have a hand in bringing meat to market. Curiously enough, folks who raise/slaughter livestock for a living aren't so delicate in their sensibilities as the vast majority of people who benefit from their labors...

Sorry to say, your diet hinges on a whole lot of people you'd probably rather not associate with. By necessity...

Mid_mo_mad_man:I'm ok with the banning of filming at slaughter houses. The business of butchering animals is never going to be pleasant.

Came here to say basically this. Also who isn't to say some of this footage was cherry picked out of thousands of hours of recording. Show me a job or trade that is perfect in handling of their duties 100% of the time and I will show you a magic bean.

//doesn't agree with unwarranted animal abuse//but people aren't perfect either

Let's just have one national law that says anyone responsible for a news story that increases the heart rate, respiration, or blood pressure of anyone in the Elite 1% will be guilty of attempted murder.

ALEC has labeled those who interfere with animal operations "terrorists," though a spokesman said he wishes now that the organization had called its legislation the "Freedom to Farm Act" rather than the "Animal and Ecological Terrorism Act."

I think we can safely add "terrorist" and "terrorism" to the list of words that no longer have any actual meaning whatsoever aside from being a general pejorative. List already includes "socialist", "liberal", "statist" (thought I don't think that one ever actually had a proper meaning at all) and of course "intellectual elite".

Then there are words that aren't pejorative yet still meaningless such as "freedom" and "democracy." I'm pretty sure those two lost all meaning when they became synonymous with dropping bombs on people, or as we used to call it, "terrorism."

Mid_mo_mad_man:The problem is the trespassing and lying to obtain the footage

No need to pass laws against trespass, as that's ALREADY illegal.

As for the lying, that should be illegal, too.

However I am against bans and for breaking unjust laws. If people feel strongly enough about these movies to keep making them, it's a freedom of speech thing. If they get caught breaking the law, prosecute 'em for trespass and possibly falsified documents, but don't pass a ban. That's a dick move.

actually meat that is less stressed when butchered has been proven to be better in taste. my value brand hot dogs probably came from tortured meat though but the chems cover it up pretty well.

I don't think they really separate meat from scared animals out from the meat of relaxed ones. Your value brand hot dogs are made from the amalgamated scraps of any carcass they could scrape some meat from. But yeah, fear changes the flavor of the meat. Problem: animals aren't stupid. I mean, they are, but they know the smell of death. They understand, on some level, what a trip to the slaughterhouse means, and their instincts are going to tell them to get the fark out of there. So how do you force a 1000lb animal that really, really doesn't want to die to go calmly to its death?

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy:Problem: animals aren't stupid. I mean, they are, but they know the smell of death. They understand, on some level, what a trip to the slaughterhouse means, and their instincts are going to tell them to get the fark out of there. So how do you force a 1000lb animal that really, really doesn't want to die to go calmly to its death?