Preacher, a high profile comic book adaptation that was formative to Ivan's view of people as meat bags, is a show that improves on the comic book–in its adaptation of women and hairstyles–and vastly disappoints. At Ivan's behest, they both watched the first two episodes in addition to Red reading the first four comic books in the series. This was originally done for the show's patreon months ago, and there's a new patreon exclusive episode up this week, so if you wanted support this podcast, I'm not going to stop you.

Book club continues with Cersei I (AFFC), Tyrion I (ADWD), and Daenarys I (ADWD) as Ivan and Red continue the Boiled Leather chapter order combining George R.R. Martin's A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons. They discuss ceremonial robes that didn't make it to television, Cersei's continued fall down the priorities ladder, and which actors are too dignified to be stuck in a wine cask.