There is a quite convincing photo that shows a larger impact hole on the first floor, which could potentially accomodate a 757.

The building was hardened on the West side with "kevlar reinforced" concrete and "blast resistant" windows that weighed 2,500 pounds each. The impact damage must be considered with this in mind.

These cameras might have slow frame rates (1 frame per second?), and this should be investigated if possible. If the camera on 9/11 had 30fps video, yet they only release 1 fps images, then that is evidence of cover up.

Until that is proven however, the plane is only about 170 feet long, yet travels over 700 feet per second. The captured image could be just what is seen in the videos.

It's no use yelling about every piece of inconclusive evidence you find. People just tune you out.

The same goes for Kerry WTC7 nonsense. He seems like he is talking about something completely different, a "wall."

More carefully constructed arguments need to be highlighted, and not knee jerk complaints over everything.

You're right, something actually hit the pentagon--- but it wasn't a plane.

Oh yeah? Where's the plane in the hole in Pennsylvania? Absence of plane in hole means plane wasn't absent- it was merely blown into a million pieces and disappeared in the hole in the ground as is claimed? Really!!! No bodies, no parts in the hole? Does it look much like the many pictures of crash sites around the world????? No?? I didn't think so. A tiny hole with smoke coming out-- wow that's proof.

Yes there was a plane flying that day, but the story concocted to cover up it's destruction? What for?

There are too many questions to ask about, that lead to dead ends because of ---absence of evidence!!! Definitely this is not evidence of absence but it's the best one can do when faced with a conspiracy of this magnitude- people die in these types of situations if they're going to crack. Absence means tampering and that means planned intent. Got OJ off.

It's actually imperatives of evidence that have been tampered with and having control over the facts gives the onus to the storyteller to get his facts straight. Since whistleblowers at this level don't exist or are "disappeared", it's very easy to keep things absent- especially when it is planned at the highest levels. The pentagon lawn is verification that nothing the size of a plane could have hit there- that low to the impact zone- as well as the flight plan taken as they lollygagged around for 4 minutes to the opposite side of the building where they were conveniently doing construction, while nothing was done from the missile defense systems? How do you know if repairs were completed or that it was reinforced the way you described completely or something wasn't planted there to blow a hole? "Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence". But it could still be true!!!

The final hole was far too small and close to the ground- The plane? Pictures? released are a joke- where are all the other pictures that were confiscated?????? The "Official" conspiracy theory needs to be reinvestigated, as the disaterous attempt at a debacle of a cover up leaves too many questions unanswered, and where the truth finally comes from, will be from doing a thorough crime investigation- not a thorough cover up.

If you think you have an inside track on proof and, as you claim to be some kind of investigator, how would you go to the sources and get the facts form those who live under the sword of Damacles. Who will come forward? Investigating every flaw is the only way to rule out the ones that can't maintain and so it is an imperative to look for absence of evidence- especially when no one is going to step forward and admit to the evidence of absence- any crime investigator knows that. What have I overloooked- what doesn't fit in the story..... on it goes as this investigation goes on - if it has to- as long as Kennedy went???? Why not- Americans are great at the art of absence of evidence- they rewrite history all the time. Why they're doing it right now as we speak..... look at the Iraq narrative- its story exists because it is controlled information where absence of evidence is the order of the day. But try and prove we're not getting the full story and you're sent fishing for evidence from whatever source you can find. So it is up to the government to control not just the absence of evidence, but the evidence of absence as well. It is complete Machiavellian control at its basic state. This is Iraq's narrative.

Information- we want information- but as we're not "Need to Know" we're left out of the equation and will swallow whatever crap they shove down our throats, as we get lazy and bored with facts and fishing expeditions, and finally resign to the shopping lines which are already in progress at a supermarket or wal-mart near you-- selling junk from China that we told you to need.

Thats all we want as conscientious curious consumers, 'cause absence of evidence doesn't necessarily mean evidence of absence, just that since I'm too busy to pay attention and do the work required, doesn't mean they aren't lowering the prices at Wal- Mart. What do I care for evidence that does or doesn't exist when I can go out and buy cheap crap. Perhaps it is evident now that the American people are absent and evidence points to a general pattern of malaise that is evident but absent. Like the supposed planes in the picture. Evidently absent!!!

Planes in the picture??? Ha ha what a joke. Whatever you do, don't fall for it- We have to keep the pressure on this mafiosa cabal that wants to rule this great country and ruin the very ideals that were intended when it was founded-- truth and honesty- not a monarchic dictatorship as is being crafted right now. That is what the evidence points to that is absent today- Our forefathers had the guts to stand up to a tyrant and call him on it- and it's become clearly evident that it is this very thing that is absent with the spineless jellyfish that inhabit this country today.

The Presence of this evidence is the evidence of it's presence-- compliance to authority.

Terrible disease- hope no one catches it!

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