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All Things Green Bay PackersTue, 06 Dec 2016 08:58:20 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: On the Divorce of Brett Favre and the Green Bay Packers « On Deaf Earshttps://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/its-thompsons-team-now/#comment-5015
Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:19:03 +0000http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/?p=1383#comment-5015[…] PackerGeeks, on management: Brett Favre put the Packers in a bad situation and the Packers handled it badly. Ted Thompson has demonstrated his ability to evaluate college talent (Justin Harrell is an asterisk) and manage the finances of the team. He is an awful, awful communicator and his ego, it seems, has badly affected his decisionmaking. […]
]]>By: tnpackfanhttps://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/its-thompsons-team-now/#comment-3025
Sat, 09 Aug 2008 08:54:25 +0000http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/?p=1383#comment-3025Triple D points out the following excerpt from the McGinn article:
“From a purely football perspective, the organizational shift against Favre began that November night in Dallas, gained steam in the arctic cold of Soldier Field and became a blaze during Favre’s pathetic second-half showing against the New York Giants with a Super Bowl there for the taking.”
If McCarthy thought it was such a pathetic second half Favre performance unfolding, “with a Super Bowl on the line” why didn’t he do something about it? Why didn’t he put Aaron Rodgers in? Don’t blame the loss on Favre, blame it on McCarthy. If your QB is struggling or playing “pathetically” give him some help. Favre got nothing.
Where were the slants and quick passes that had worked so well? Why didn’t McCarthy get defensive help for Al Harris? I mean Plexico ate him up, (11 rec/ 151yds.) It was so bad Plexico went by the Packer’s sideline and told them Al couldn’t stop him and they needed to get Al some help. The Pack had only 14 rushing plays for 28 yds. Where was Ron Grant? When the defense knows you can’t rush the ball they can load up on the pass defense. Favre carried the team that night. The only help Favre got was from Mason Crosby. Instead of the “organization” noticing a decline in Favre they should have wondered about their coach’s ability to dynamically coach the biggest game in his career. It is disingenuous to put the loss on Favre’s shoulders. Was Favre’s last pass a tough one? Sure. But, the loss should be owned by the pitiful coaching job of McCarthy not a single player such as Favre, Al Harris, or Ron Grant.
]]>By: Aaronhttps://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/its-thompsons-team-now/#comment-2979
Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:15:20 +0000http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/?p=1383#comment-2979Steve – You could have made that pass.
]]>By: Aaronhttps://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/its-thompsons-team-now/#comment-2978
Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:13:44 +0000http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/?p=1383#comment-2978Kristin – “He was a nice boy that frigid day and didn’t hurt the Bears…”
Thanks for helping me prove my point😉
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Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:21:27 +0000http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/?p=1383#comment-2951I love this blog.
Everyone is funny, smart (or makes a heckuva case for themselves) and respectful.
Thanks Hayes Bros.

Aaron – Kyle Orton? Thanks for the laugh. He was a nice boy that frigid day and didn’t hurt the Bears, and he even threw one of his twelve career touchdown passes.

One final thought about Belle’s defense of TT’s approach to dealing with Favre. The trio of TT – MM – MM have presented unwavering support for one another over the last few weeks. As they should. And they’ll be better for it. They’ve gone into battle together. It took all three to take on the force that is Brett Favre. And it sucks to see Favre as the odd man out. As Mac G said, it’s a sad, sad day.

This was a most unique situation. But the league is filled with divas and headcases. I think what we all hope, is that TT has learned one hell of a lesson. Communication is key. If TT hadn’t tip-toed around Favre the past three years maybe this wouldn’t have happened. Or maybe Favre would’ve had a Manny moment and publicly asked for a trade two years ago (actually, behind closed doors, he might have), who knows. We’ll never know what all transpired over the last few years. Until Chris Mortenson or Peter King write a book about it in eight years after Favre is enshrined in the HOF.

When it comes to communication, Ron Wolf knew how to deal with players, he didn’t just leave it up to the coach to be a go-between. Brian Noble told of his own story (from the WBAY site):
In six of his nine years with the Packers, Noble led the team in tackles. Towards the end of his career, though, he was approached by then-general manager Ron Wolf.
He recalls Wolf telling him, “Point blank, ‘Brian, you’re a good football player — not a great one, a good one — but you’re only here until I can replace you.'”

]]>By: sfhayeshttps://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/its-thompsons-team-now/#comment-2936
Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:54:58 +0000http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/?p=1383#comment-2936Mr. Man,
You’re right, you can call it as you see it. Happy to have you do so. As I say, it’s my view. I offered lots support for it in my post. You don’t buy it. Fair enough.

For the record, I merely argued that Thompson’s ego affected his decisionmaking. The word “egomaniac” was yours. Do you disagree with the very basic proposition that Thompson’s ego affected his decisionmaking?

As Triple-D pointed out — and he doesn’t agree with me — Bob McGinn says it was a football decision influenced, at least in part, by ego.

You may not agree with McGinn and you may not agree with me, but as I said before, the fact of your disagreement does not make our points “baloney.”

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Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:40:02 +0000http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/?p=1383#comment-2935Triple D — We want you to smack us around, especially in the smart and often hilarious way you make your points. So by all means keep it up. The only point I was trying to make was that I’d consciously tried to avoid being the dogmatist you were criticizing and I didn’t want you, or anyone else, to misunderstand my points.

I’m definitely no Favre apologist. In fact, I’d been so harsh on Favre — for many reasons, all of them deserved — that I wrote this post to highlight the ways Thompson is partially responsible for the mess we were in, to provide a modicum of balance. In the end, I’m pretty sympathetic to the way the Packers handled this from March 30 on — though they could have been a bit more straightforward than they’ve been.

Aaron — Craig Nall could not have made that pass.

]]>By: patrickhttps://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/its-thompsons-team-now/#comment-2934
Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:39:44 +0000http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/?p=1383#comment-2934August 7,2008 = Jan. 6, 1920 (Babe Ruth trade to Yankees). Ok, maybe the Jets aren’t our biggest rival, but there will be a curse on the Packers for a long, long time
]]>By: Aaronhttps://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/its-thompsons-team-now/#comment-2933
Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:35:59 +0000http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/?p=1383#comment-2933Mac: “Still, there is no way else to spin it but August 7,2008 is a SAD, Sad Day for Cheesehead Nation.”

You got that right.

]]>By: Aaronhttps://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/its-thompsons-team-now/#comment-2930
Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:33:44 +0000http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/?p=1383#comment-2930Mac – where did I say Favre was responsible for the Giants loss? It was a whole host of things, one major part of which was Favre’s play. (Hell, even his big TD to Driver was due to play design and Driver getting off the jam – Craig Nall could have made that throw…)
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