Posted:29th Dec 2005This list represents what I consider 'base' contact movements. Most other moves are combinations of these moves, variations, or these movements transfered to a different plane. [indeed some of these movements are combinations of others, but they're interesting enough to be granted their own name.] These moves can be broken down into their component parts, but the way I present them here is as symmetrical (hopefully) movements. So for instance you can end a SNES with a vertical steve arm roll, but you'd break the symmetry of the SNES, so I don't present that here.

You may disagree with this list, like it not having a palmspin in it, but the palmspin I felt was too 'small' a move, both for a tutorial, and in ... well, maybe I should have.... oh well.

They are in rough order of difficulty and impressiveness. It all depends on how you learn thou.

Hand Wraps

Neck Wraps

Body Part Spins

Shoulder Wraps

Fishtails

Halo Roll

Conveyor Belt

Angel Roll

The Pivot

SNES

Halo 360

Steve

Jesus

Matrix

any additions? Suggestions?

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I think that the teaching resource is brilliant, but I don't understand the classifications, I'm not sure what you mean by "base movement". eg Why is a "pivot" a base move when its a combination of 2 other moves?For me I would say that most of these clips show families - like shoulder wrapsor heads of families shows matrix then other matrix variations/family members. (eg your Matrix clip)

A "fundamental" move might be a a flat spin - horizontal on the palm or any part of the body. and other simpler movements like this a wrap - a roll - a hold -a trap - a walk - (with the staff)a balance- etc etc.

Posted:6th Jan 2006I could teach the various 'components' that make up all those 'big' contact movements, but I don't believe it would actually help to learn those big movements. It would probably only serve to confuse and force people to reinvent the wheel. (and maybe reinvent contact movements too.)

I called them base, cos a: they seem to be the bases for many variations, and they are the ones I would teach people, then tell them about the variations. (Like I do in the videos.)

I mean, I keep searching about, but I haven't found a contact move (that isn't 'static') that's radically different from them. (a new family)

I should maybe put the throat / chest / throat version of the halo 360 in there, but I've already put the word version in.... I would consider the sweep too, if it wasn't so easy. And a variation on the snes.

I just put the pivot in cos it's cool. I mean, why put the angel roll in, when it's kindof a halo roll variation, or also a vertical steve variation in some ways. It's just different enough to be worth teaching.

oh, yeah and the shoulder wraps... oh well, I'm sure people will get the idea from the twenty other times I do it properly... And if not, orange will slap them.

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Posted:6th Jan 2006Quote Meg: "I could teach the various 'components' that make up all those 'big' contact movements, but I don't > believe it would actually help to learn those big movements. It would probably only serve to confuse and force > people to reinvent the wheel. (and maybe reinvent contact movements too.) "

Quote Meg: " I keep searching about, I haven't found a contact move (that isn't 'static') that's radically different > from them. (a new family) "You should search harder or think more sideways. there are loads more

Not really about notation, I agree that would be a waste of time, more about classification/understanding.

As for my first comment above, "Shoulder wraps 1:43 sec" it a revese/forwards being reversed. I was trying to be subtle for you

glass: Well I would like to think I had done some of those things: "Sometimes "catch" is a naughty word" and: " Correct position of hand, arm, or elbow Balance point of baton"

thou maybe not: "Maintain a positive attitude when teaching rolls" and "Break the roll down into its elements so that the athlete has a complete understanding of what will make it work."

I think maybe you are taking elements to a lower level than I am. I would have 'assumed' those elements were the two elbow wraps and the hand transfer in between. (I'm sure you know the movement I'm talking about) I take it you would break it down further?

Anyway, I'm not training atheletes, I'm training HIPPIES!

Oh is it? I thought it was that it rolled down my arm instead of just wrapping my shoulder.

>You should search harder or think more sideways. there are loads more

this is the kind of annoying gimpiness that annoys me. Examples, explainations? Or just annoying silence?

I know maybe five times the amount of movements that are shown in those videos. But I would decribe them all using names from those videos. (Or in reference to them) (apart from the lynx, but maybe I would refer to the elbow wrap...) Hmmm, maybe pinches could be added....

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I like your matrix tutorial...my mate simon put in a 180 degree turn between each half of the matrix...some times it looks bloody good. because of the way the body turns away from the stick seems to prolong the rotations

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

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