"[Donna Laframboise's] short article linked to below, talks about the
connections between alternative health ideas, anti-Semitism
and hate." (Go to http://groups.google.com and
search "Ross anti-Semitisim")

I thought you would be interested to know that modern medicine has
perpetrated and perpetuated a BIG LIE....

"The Rockefeller Foundation played the central role in establishing and
sponsoring major eugenic institutes in Germany, including the Kaiser Wilhelm
Institute for Psychiatry and the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Anthropology,
Eugenics, and Human Heredity." [Kühl S. The Nazi connection: eugenics,
American racism, and German National Socialism. New York: Oxford University
Press 1994.]

Self-acclaimed top "quackbuster" Aaron Fox, PhD suddenly went silent when I
suggested a link between Milbank, Nazism in medicine and CSICOP Skeptics...

I never learned whether Milbank Dr. Dan was Aaron's dad - but I think Aaron
offered everyone an emphatic YES with his hasty departure from
misc.health.alternative.

Oddly, no one on misc.health.alternative seemed interested in the possible
link between Nazism in medicine, Milbank, Aaron and the CSICOP Skeptics...

Donna, I am thinking that a journalist with an interest in "alternative"
(unproven) medicine and hate would be interested in delving further into the
BIG LIE that medicine is not "alternative" (unproven) medicine.

Tell me, do you think it is LOVE that is causing modern medicine to
routinely close birth canals up to 30% and GRUESOMELY manipulate tiny
spines - sometimes ripping spinal nerves out of tiny spinal cords?

MD-obstetricians actually are closing birth canals up to 30% routinely -
pulling on fetal skulls sticking out vaginas - sometimes pulling so hard
that they rip spinal nerves out of tiny spinal cords!

In an estimated 10 to 15% of vaginal births, MDs reach INSIDE vaginas and
drag babies through pelvic outlets senselessly closed up to 30%. This, too,
can rip spinal nerves out of tiny spinal cords!

And then there's mass PENIS slashing - American medicine's most frequent
surgical behavior toward males - currently being promoted in Africa as part
of American medicine's HIV/AIDS infant formula marketing scheme...

According to Simpson [1993], after Hitler murdered (or banished from
Germany) the very Jews that the Dillon Read Banker-General Draper had
looted, the banker-general was sent overseas to de-Nazify Germany - which he
failed to
do:

"[T]he upper echelons of the U.S. occupation government agreed as early as
the summer of 1945 that, regardless of what might be said for public
consumption, a thorough denazification and decartelization of the German
economy would never be attempted...Draper's administrative techniques [were
as follows:]...He announced tough anti-Nazi measures in accordance with the
official policy; then, shortly afterward he proclaimed success in carrying
out those measures while at the same time undermining the very policies he
publicly claimed to support..." [Simpson 1993:251]

"Kerno's claim that the records had not been submitted to judicial process
was actually 'blatantly false,' noted historian Alti Rodal...[who noted also
that]...'In fact...the UNWCC's Committee...insisted that only crimes of
reasonable importance be examined...and took pains to insure that evidence
and allegations presented by the exiled governments was judiciously
tested...'" [Simpson quoting Rodal 1994:276]

Perhaps not surprisingly, in 1986, it was revealed (in an Austrian
presidential campaign) that U.N. Secretary General Kurt Waldheim was himself
a Nazi.

In Countenance of Truth: The United Nations and the Waldheim Case [New York:
Viking 1990], author Shirley Hazzard notes that the U.N.'s Great Powers not
only knew about U.N. Secretary-General Kurt Waldheim's Nazi past, they
obscured it, almost as efficiently as the Secretary-General himself.

Hazzard also notes the disappearance in 1952 of the UN Directive prohibiting
the hiring of "persons who have discredited themselves by their activities
or connections with Facism or Nazism." [Hazzard 1990:8]

The UN, of course, was built on Rockefeller-donated land - not long after
which Nelson Rockefeller became Eisenhower's special assistant for
psychological warfare.
(As noted above, Nelson Rockefeller succeeded Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower's
wartime special assistant for psychological warfare after Eisenhower became
president; and both Nelson and his brother David were close to the CIA,
according to Cary Reich's The Life of Nelson Rockefeller: Worlds to Conquer
1908-1958. NY: Doubleday 1996.)

Ms. Framboise, if Eustace Mullins doubts the sincerity of Jews in general -
and pretends that Jews in general haven't been manipulated by capitalists
(some of them prominent Jews) down through history up to and including the
present - then I think he is mistaken.

If you think most of modern medicine is not "alternative" (unproven) -
criminally so - then I think *you* are mistaken.

Again quoting Milbank Quarterly,

"Nazi medicine has now become a part of the professional genotype of modern
medicine..."
[Seidelman WE. Mengele Medicus: Medicine's Nazi Heritage. Milbank Quarterly,
Vol. 66, No. 2, 1988:221-39]

REMEMBER: When MDs say they are opening birth canals in a small minority of
cases - this is OBVIOUS evidence that they are CLOSING birth canals in the
majority of cases! See again Bonehead Shoulder Dystocia Attorney James L.
O'Leary, II...http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/1154

Back around 1990 when I *was* licensed (and had been for 10 years) - a man
claiming to be Michael Schroeder, Esq. (attorney for the California Board of
Chiropractic Examiners in a lawsuit
brought by 10 MD-obstetricians and others) - told me it was not within my
scope of practice as a California licensed DC to inform women regarding
grisly
MD-obstetrician birth practices.

Coincidentally, a Michael Schroeder, Esq. - former chairman of
the California Republican Party - sued me for one million dollars for
defamation - for claiming that he improperly used hundreds of thousands in
DC licensing fees to defend Rule 302, a regulatory definition of
chiropractic that he had written - and which had been publicly pilloried as
being "unlawful" by a
former assistant DA/public defender.

"[Schroeder et al.] did not attack the validity of the chiropractic
'board's' scope of practice rule (rule 302). In my opinion, the rule itself
should have been directly attacked as unlawfully limiting our scope of
practice to straight chiropractic...My disagreement with Mr. Schroeder over
the scope of practice issue is not new. I wrote an article which appeared in
the March, 1986 issue of this paper making many of the same points I...make
in this article.
David Prescott, DC, MA, JD, FIACA
Chiropractor Prosecuted for Recommending Vitamins -- Why? What to Do?
DYNAMIC CHIROPRACTIChttp://www.chiroweb.com/archives/16/11/08.html

FACT: 10-MD-obstetricians were in part the cause of Mr. Schroeder earning
hundreds of thousands of dollars if DC licensing fees in the Rule 302
matter...

Early articles on McRoberts maneuver failed to mention that the pelvic
outlet diameter can
change MASSIVELY at delivery. These same articles called attention away
from the pelvic
outlet by citing the grisly "inlet" dystocia hoax....

FACT: Hibbard [1969] describes a physical impossibility! With the
posterior fetal shoulder trapped way up the Curve of Carus at the sacral
promontory/pelvic inlet, there is no force to push the head out the vagina -
even if the fetal neck could stretch that far!

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists/ACOG perpetuates
this grisly inlet dystocia hoax by selling a video titled, "Shoulder
Dystocia Drill"...

The ACOG video also promotes the pelvic-outlet-closing McRoberts maneuver.

NOTE: Extreme lithotomy is simply rolling a woman off her sacrum at
delivery - getting her OFF her butt - and MDs wrote that it may OCCASIONALLY
be helpful to know about this, as in,

"[I]t may occasionally be helpful to know - for forceps, let us say - that
the extreme lithotomy position gives the maximum anteroposterior diameter to
the outlet."
--Nicholson J. Eastman, MD
Professor of Obstetrics
Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine
--Howard W. Jones, Jr., MD
Associate Professor of Gynecology
Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine
--Georgeanna Seegar Jones
Associate Professor of Gynecology
Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine
(Obstetrical and Gynecological Survey 1957;12:648)

It may OCCASIONALLY be helpful to know how to offer babies up to 30% of
"extra" room at the pelvic outlet?!

I'd say it's ALWAYS helpful to know how to do this!

MD-obstetricians actually are closing birth canals up to 30% routinely -
pulling on fetal skulls sticking out vaginas - sometimes pulling so hard
that they rip spinal nerves out of tiny spinal cords!

In an estimated 10 to 15% of vaginal births, MDs reach INSIDE vaginas and
drag babies through pelvic outlets senselessly closed up to 30%. This, too,
can rip spinal nerves out of tiny spinal cords!