Mayor is just the 1st councilor of a city. Many, MANY cities are managed this way, and generally it's a good thing. The only reason Rob Ford is merely an embarrassment, and not a complete disaster, is the fact that he's simply one vote in Toronto city council.

Warlordtrooper:UncomfortableSilence: Changing the rules to benefit your party when someone you dislike gets voted in? Come on guys, we're not supposed to be the side that pulls this crap.

Bull. Sometimes you have to fight the enemy the same way they fight you. It may not be right but republicans started this war, there is no reason not to do everything in our power to stop them.

There's a side of me that agrees with U.S. and Democrats shouldn't stoop the the GOP's level. Then again, considering the GOP's policies resemble that of the English feudal era, stripping someone who's legit batshiat crazy isn't such a bad thing.

nmrsnr:DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

""Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster," it's BS when Republicans pull this kind of shiat just because they lost an election, Democrats should be better than that.

UncomfortableSilence:Changing the rules to benefit your party when someone you dislike gets voted in? Come on guys, we're not supposed to be the side that pulls this crap.

All of these. It kind of makes it harder to fight stuff like Republican voter supression efforts, public union busting, and changing counting rules after the voting in order to win; if Democrats are pulling stuff like this. It legitemizes Republican shenanigans and delegitemizes complaints made about about them.

Warlordtrooper:UncomfortableSilence: Changing the rules to benefit your party when someone you dislike gets voted in? Come on guys, we're not supposed to be the side that pulls this crap.

Bull. Sometimes you have to fight the enemy the same way they fight you. It may not be right but republicans started this war, there is no reason not to do everything in our power to stop them.

No, you can't stoop down to their level, you need to fight it legitimately. I'd be angry if they did this to a Democrat, therefore I'm angry they did this to a Republican. This is the kind of partisanship that's corrupting political discourse in this country.

gingerjet:Notabunny: Meh. Some cities have a strong mayor system, and in other cities the mayor and city council members are equals. This isn't a thing.

But doing so just to throw a temper tantrum because your guy lost is a thing.

Joe Blowme:Notabunny: Meh. Some cities have a strong mayor system, and in other cities the mayor and city council members are equals. This isn't a thing.

It is when the only reason you change it is because the "wrong" person won

Sure, if that was the reason, but tfa doesn't say that. It hints at it by labeling the parties Democratic and Republican, but tfa never says that was the reason for switching away from a strong mayor system.

This is why I stopped voting a few years ago, and don't plan to start again any time soon. It's a charade. Neither side is really doing anything. The powers-that-be are the ones making all the calls, and elections are just bread & circuses.

drunk_bouncnbaloruber:DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

This.

Yup. The voters will be thanking them once the mayor starts spouting off about death panels and birf certifcts.

drunk_bouncnbaloruber:DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

sugar_fetus:DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

By denying the voters their choice of Mayor? Makes perfect sense.

/those who know whats best for us must rise and save us from ourselves.

I don't think it's a huge stretch to say that people who know better than to vote Republican know what's best for the people who do.

nmrsnr: DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

""Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster," it's BS when Republicans pull this kind of shiat just because they lost an election, Democrats should be better than that.

UncomfortableSilence: Changing the rules to benefit your party when someone you dislike gets voted in? Come on guys, we're not supposed to be the side that pulls this crap.

All of these. It kind of makes it harder to fight stuff like Republican voter supression efforts, public union busting, and changing counting rules after the voting in order to win; if Democrats are pulling stuff like this. It legitemizes Republican shenanigans and delegitemizes complaints made about about them.

This. Doing this sort of thing makes the crazy right-wingers think their craziness is justified.

Typical moronic Libtards. They simply cannot accept that the overwhelming majority of Americans are crying out for true Conservative leadership. The Liberal Attack Machine MUST be stopped and dismantled immediately, by force if necessary, before it can cause any more harm to our great Nation.

The Name:drunk_bouncnbaloruber: DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

This.

Yup. The voters will be thanking them once the mayor starts spouting off about death panels and birf certifcts.

I know right? Specially when it was just a 16 year oversight ooops again in 1998

The Name:sugar_fetus: DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

By denying the voters their choice of Mayor? Makes perfect sense.

/those who know whats best for us must rise and save us from ourselves.

I don't think it's a huge stretch to say that people who know better than to vote Republican know what's best for the people who do.

I do. Because not all Republicans are the same; because not all Democrats are the same.

Am I the only one who noticed that the entire article only talks about one person on the council who is planning to introduce a bill to have it voted on? There is no other mention of other support or whether it is likely to pass.

While this will be an embarassment if it goes through, right now it doesn't appear to be anything more than one council person who is submitting legislation for it. I hope there is a followup when (if?) there is a vote on it.

Joe Blowme:The Name: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

This.

Yup. The voters will be thanking them once the mayor starts spouting off about death panels and birf certifcts.

I know right? Specially when it was just a 16 year oversight[cdn.breitbart.com image 475x356][www.breitbart.com image 413x116] ooops again in 1998

double oops, 2007.[www.breitbart.com image 344x130]

Dont know where they got the idea he to question him

You do know you can be born out of country and still be a citizen of the US right?

Joe Blowme:The Name: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

This.

Yup. The voters will be thanking them once the mayor starts spouting off about death panels and birf certifcts.

I know right? Specially when it was just a 16 year oversight[cdn.breitbart.com image 475x356][www.breitbart.com image 413x116] ooops again in 1998

double oops, 2007.[www.breitbart.com image 344x130]

Dont know where they got the idea he to question him

It's not that they questioned him. It's that they kept questioning him - over, and over, and over - after it had been proven beyond any form of reasonable doubt.

Specifically restrict mayoral power? I'm not aware of any specific incident identical to this (though I imagine it has happened), by "this kind of shiat" I meant moves that pervert the concept of democracy in the interest of preserving party power. Are we going to pretend that it hasn't been the Republican party MO since at least 2010 to marginalize potential democratic voters, and lower voter turnout in general, in order to preserve their political power over the actual popular opinion on how to govern?

He's a mayor in a heavily Democratic state. What's this guy going to do, propose legislation that immediately gets smacked down? Yeah..that's real threatening. The guy already has a tiny amount of influence anyway. This is just wasteful and petty.

Joe Blowme:The Name: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

This.

Yup. The voters will be thanking them once the mayor starts spouting off about death panels and birf certifcts.

I know right? Specially when it was just a 16 year oversight[cdn.breitbart.com image 475x356][www.breitbart.com image 413x116] ooops again in 1998