dtp883 wrote:many countries and people interpret Islam in a very...barbaric way.

But that's not Islam's fault.

Of course I know that. I meant why would you want to convert to a religion that many groups of it or at least their leaders interpret it in such a hateful and violent ways. Besides the main reason was the one man revelation of the central holy text.

formiko wrote:I agree 100%. People use most religions like a Chinese menu. Pick what you like and leave the rest

Do you eat pork or shellfish? Have any tattoos? Do the woman of your church cover their heads during worship?

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dtp883 wrote:Of course I know that. I meant why would you want to convert to a religion that many groups of it or at least their leaders interpret it in such a hateful and violent ways.

But what major religion couldn't you say this about?

Besides the main reason was the one man revelation of the central holy text.

Care to expand on that? Just as Christianity was more quietistic and charitable as preached than as implemented (when concessions had to be made to secular authorities who still wanted leave to wage war and execute prisoners), Islam was more progressive in its conception than in its execution. A lot of what Muhammad tried to do away with got reimported by later interpreters, many of whom relied on dubious hadith to support them.

formiko wrote:I agree 100%. People use most religions like a Chinese menu. Pick what you like and leave the rest :(

Do you eat pork or shellfish? Have any tattoos? Do the woman of your church cover their heads during worship?

formiko wrote:I agree 100%. People use most religions like a Chinese menu. Pick what you like and leave the rest

Do you eat pork or shellfish? Have any tattoos? Do the woman of your church cover their heads during worship?

Um, in case you misunderstood, he's Christian, not Jewish!

Some Christians I know cover their heads always, so as not to tempt men. That's a right that they have. While I have tattoos, my own conviction is that they are wrong, even though we are no longer under the mosaic law, Christ says we are bought with a price, and we are not our own. I just leave that up to each Christian.I don't eat shellfish because I think they're sea bugs , but the Lord said ALL food is made to eat. Paul says that if someone is immature they'll eat only vegetables, but that it is ok. They are not sinning. Christians have a LOT of freedom. Christ died so we may be free. Too many Christians unfortunayely get caught up in legalism, and CHOOSE to have more rules put upon them. (Note, that the moral law was never done away with!)

Yea as far as that article on Ireland goes. I would have to say that it is the government'splace to protect people from the force and fraud of others. Not to protect their delicatesensibilities. America has been steadily progressing down this slope, too. So Ireland is notalone.

All I want to know is what good is free speech if you are afraid of offending someone?