This thread gives us a great indicator of the future prospects of the USFC, they're not good. I expect a similar shit show to the last one, toss of a coin to see who wins.

I might try and avoid the score until the deferred coverage starts at 7pm on BBC2. Thats how interested I am these days.

I do that with most games these days. If I don’t get to this one, I might just avoid and watch the deferred coverage too. It’s not easy sitting through a full match when you already know the score, even if it is your own team

Our season wouldn’t be over if we’re beat. That said McGeeney would need a serious run in the qualifiers to cover over a further failure in Ulster.Down are poor and I fancy us for a reasonably comfortable victory.

The Armagh that plays with confidence and moves the ball quickly is definitely worth watching. When the confidence goes we hold the ball up and shovel it sideways. That isn’t worth watching. The way attendances and probably viewing numbers are shaping up the GAA will want the more attractive footballing sides to progress

Having followed Down all year it pains me to say I can’t see anything other than an Armagh win, this is possibly the weakest Down team I can remember, our defence isn’t bad but we’ve no midfield and a forward line that doesn’t score enough, Armagh aren’t great but should have enough to win by 3/4, but you just never know!!

Our season wouldn’t be over if we’re beat. That said McGeeney would need a serious run in the qualifiers to cover over a further failure in Ulster.Down are poor and I fancy us for a reasonably comfortable victory.

The Armagh that plays with confidence and moves the ball quickly is definitely worth watching. When the confidence goes we hold the ball up and shovel it sideways. That isn’t worth watching. The way attendances and probably viewing numbers are shaping up the GAA will want the more attractive footballing sides to progress

I want us to go all out in Ulster. Beating Sligo or Waterford in the qualifiers means feck all. It’s just prolonging the inevitable. If we got a lucky draw and made the Super 8, we’d be slaughtered.

Go out and give Ulster a rattle. Even a final appearance would be an achievement. Anything else is pointless.

Our season wouldn’t be over if we’re beat. That said McGeeney would need a serious run in the qualifiers to cover over a further failure in Ulster.Down are poor and I fancy us for a reasonably comfortable victory.

The Armagh that plays with confidence and moves the ball quickly is definitely worth watching. When the confidence goes we hold the ball up and shovel it sideways. That isn’t worth watching. The way attendances and probably viewing numbers are shaping up the GAA will want the more attractive footballing sides to progress

I want us to go all out in Ulster. Beating Sligo or Waterford in the qualifiers means feck all. It’s just prolonging the inevitable. If we got a lucky draw and made the Super 8, we’d be slaughtered.

Go out and give Ulster a rattle. Even a final appearance would be an achievement. Anything else is pointless.

Lowest level of belief in any match I have ever seen between these two sides. I haven't seen Armagh, but I've seen Down and there is no way Armagh could be worse than us. Having said that I expect Down to be tight and hold Armagh and frustrate them. I would expect Armagh to gradually pull away in the second half. We have no midfield at all and have shown very little strategy to competing for kick-out ball.

I don't think our players are terrible. If sufficiently organised and working together then I think they could easily challenge Armagh and I would be quite optimistic. But there seems a lack of key strategy - especially midfield but also in moving ball and shooting.

Players seem scared to shoot, it reminds me of 07-09, when no one would shoot and the plan was "get it to Benny". Problem is that this time we have no Benny to get it to.

There appears no strategy to get the ball forward to on-running forwards - the strategy seems just to recycle it backwards over and over until maybe a break opens up by chance.

I have no seen any repetitive patterns of passing (set moves) that Down implement. You would expect to see some repeating patterns of movement when a team is acting as a unit. Instead every attack seems as individual and off-the-cuff as every other.

We don't play as a cohesive organised unit, and as such, rely on individual talent. Our talent s not that high to do that.

Would have thought Tally would have Down organised, and set up very well defensively. Would expect to see Down get plenty of bodies back in defence. That in itself will cause this Armagh side a lot of problems.