WGN as a SuperStation was very popular in the Midwest, and that's presumably why they keep at least a couple of newscasts around. Ditto for the sports.

The former seems almost silly anymore, with WGN America's efforts at original programming...and the fact that you can stream any WGN newscast live now.

The Superstation format is pretty much dead. When I first got cable (in Arizona) I think we had 5 different ones (WOR from NY, WGN in Chicago, WTBS in Atlanta, An L.A. station (I think it was Channel 5) and I think also WPIX in NY. I think there were a few others at an additional charge. I really am surprised MLB lets WGN show those baseball games nationally. You'd think they could sell more subscriptions to their EI or MLB.TV services if they got rid of those games. It also shouldn't be fair to other teams in the midwest that the Cubs and Sox can gain a fan base like that. I'd think teams like the Cards and Royals and Tigers would cry foul.

I really am surprised MLB lets WGN show those baseball games nationally. You'd think they could sell more subscriptions to their EI or MLB.TV services if they got rid of those games. It also shouldn't be fair to other teams in the midwest that the Cubs and Sox can gain a fan base like that. I'd think teams like the Cards and Royals and Tigers would cry foul.

Starting in January, WGN America converts to a basic cable channel a la TBS, so it will indeed lose the Chicago sports.

(Tribune CEO Peter Liguori is) in the process of converting the company's national broadcast channel, WGN America, from a superstation into a basic cable channel, which is mainly a technical transition, except that it will require dumping Cubs, Bulls, Blackhawks and White Sox game broadcasts. He doesn't mind, because that programming hasn't been paying off anyway, and besides — he's a New York Mets fan.

That's what I said early in this thread. I've always considered WGN as one of the few channels that you'd get even if you only had limited basic. At least that's how it's been where I've lived. But apparently that's not the case everywhere as I learned from how many in this thread have never even heard of the channel and don't have it on their cable subscriptions, or have to have a special tier to get it.

That's what I said early in this thread. I've always considered WGN as one of the few channels that you'd get even if you only had limited basic. At least that's how it's been where I've lived. But apparently that's not the case everywhere as I learned from how many in this thread have never even heard of the channel and don't have it on their cable subscriptions, or have to have a special tier to get it.

Is this just a case of semantics? I've always considered TBS, WGN and the other superstations also basic cable channels, simply because they generally are offered with other basic cable channels in the non premium channel tiers. My definition of a basic cable channel has always been a channel that you don't have to pay a premium to get that channel (or a series of related channels). A&E, Discover, CNN, Fox News, TBS, Comedy Central are all "basic cable" The HBO, Cinemax, Showtime family of channels aren't.

Mentioned upthread; I have limited basic (locals only, plus things like CSPAN, no "basic cable" stations) and for some reason WGN America is included in my lineup. It's only in SD so I watch Manhattan via Hulu+.

This past episode annoyed me. WAY too much "mourning" for Charlie. I don't know why, but I am much more interested in the wives' stories than the men. The men ALL seem like a bunch of jerks and are totally unlikable. I get that they are trying to show that they all have these huge egos and are willing to stab each other in the back at the drop of a hat. But there's not a likable one in the bunch.

Agree on the too much mourning for Charlie. It seemed like 2/3 of the show was about him, which sort of tells me the pacing we can expect from the show - slooow.

And yeah, the women's story lines are more interesting. Maybe even a little lesbian action coming soon? It makes sense now that I think of it, but having the operators listening in on every phone conversation was pretty shocking.

Gotta give props to Frank for his clever way of getting a meeting with the base commander guy, aka Duck Phillips.

Agree on the too much mourning for Charlie. It seemed like 2/3 of the show was about him, which sort of tells me the pacing we can expect from the show - slooow.

And yeah, the women's story lines are more interesting. Maybe even a little lesbian action coming soon? It makes sense now that I think of it, but having the operators listening in on every phone conversation was pretty shocking.

Gotta give props to Frank for his clever way of getting a meeting with the base commander guy, aka Duck Phillips.

How else could they know what was being said on the phone in a secure area?

There was a swastika on an imperial German soldier's Stahlhelm. While the swastika did appear on various military items from other nations, the swastika wasn't used on German military items until several years after the end of WW1.

There was a swastika on an imperial German soldier's Stahlhelm. While the swastika did appear on various military items from other nations, the swastika wasn't used on German military items until several years after the end of WW1.

Not to be the grammar police, but that would be a chronological error, not a continuity (editing) error.

Ok, so I was excited to watch this show. Set a SP up. Now getting around to watch it and apparently only the Pilot recorded and there were no conflicts AFAIK. My TiVo shows no future episodes. I'm on Comcast near Philly. it was on WPHL. I don't think I get WGN otherwise. Doing a search shows that WPHL was going to air the premiere but I can't find anything for after.

Ok, so I was excited to watch this show. Set a SP up. Now getting around to watch it and apparently only the Pilot recorded and there were no conflicts AFAIK. My TiVo shows no future episodes. I'm on Comcast near Philly. it was on WPHL. I don't think I get WGN otherwise. Doing a search shows that WPHL was going to air the premiere but I can't find anything for after.

All but the first episode is exclusively WGN America. In NY it was on WPIX as well as WGN America for the first episode, after that, just WGN

Ok, so I was excited to watch this show. Set a SP up. Now getting around to watch it and apparently only the Pilot recorded and there were no conflicts AFAIK. My TiVo shows no future episodes. I'm on Comcast near Philly. it was on WPHL. I don't think I get WGN otherwise. Doing a search shows that WPHL was going to air the premiere but I can't find anything for after.

I don't think it comes on this holiday weekend. So the next episode might not show up if you checked the guide this past Monday or Tuesday. Since the guide is only good for around 12 days.

If you are on Comcast and can get OnDemand, you should be able to watch all episodes on there. We do not get WGN America in Chicago, but that is how I am watching it.

I meant to mention this. The On Demand airings of Manhattan apparently turn into COMPLETELY COMMERCIAL FREE versions after a while.. and even when there are commercials, they are FFable.. (obviously there's more latency than with a local recording.)

I watched the first ep on On Demand, it had the 'car movie commercial' thing, but it was FFable.. I don't remember how soon after it aired that I watched it.. But then I watched at least the next 2, I think 3 episodes with NO commercials except for a very short WGNA bumper at the beginning.. NO commercials otherwise.

I got impatient and watched the last episode the next day, and it still had commercials, but again FFable.

So I'm still Tivoing it, but the commercial free On Demand is better than Tivoed!

Ok, so I was excited to watch this show. Set a SP up. Now getting around to watch it and apparently only the Pilot recorded and there were no conflicts AFAIK. My TiVo shows no future episodes. I'm on Comcast near Philly. it was on WPHL. I don't think I get WGN otherwise. Doing a search shows that WPHL was going to air the premiere but I can't find anything for after.

i hate to add my post for fear someone at wgn america will read this thread and ruin the experience, but here it goes...

sunday nights tend to be crowded with series i like to watch, so i caught on to manhattan late (never gave it a chance, i loathed salem on wgna). it's turned out to be my favorite new summer series, and when i was catching up, i discovered that with comcast vod there are no commercials, which means no ffwd. even with an sp set on my tivo, i still usually watch new eps with vod because of the seamless, uninterrupted viewing.

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I'm watching the pilot and noticed that the opening scene (sandstorm) had some text that was half there. Also noticed the credits chopped off. Not to mention tall people with half their heads cropped out.

The only thing I've noticed is they like to equalize toward ultra-bass. The "boom" in the opening is one place but elsewhere in the soundtrack as well. My 32-year-old bookshelf speakers can't quite handle it.

The only thing I've noticed is they like to equalize toward ultra-bass. The "boom" in the opening is one place but elsewhere in the soundtrack as well. My 32-year-old bookshelf speakers can't quite handle it.