I do the given and taken backwrap transfers alot (given more often, and i think the taken one is the votrex version [goes straight into a left hand armstall {and that whole little trick (the backwrap vortex into arm stall) come incredibly well out of a normal vortex if you time it right} by the way])

Yeah it is vortices, like matrix and matrices (mate-ris-eez, not matresses)

Yes, you can do a vortex with a backwrap that is identical to a normal frontwarp vortex except that all the wraps are reversed. To do it the same as the frontwarp vortex you have to unwrap over the front of the diabolo with your left hand (which is more awkward than the normal move).

It's a fun exercise to do a long vortex combo and keep switching back and forth between front and back side vortices (or vortexi for John )

The one that goes on forever is an S-fan. Have a look at the fan threads linked to in the tricks clicky at the top of the forum, and have another look at the videos - you'll hopefully be able to see that the trick is started in a different way to a normal fan.

Yes, with a normal Fan you can do more than 10 turns, it's just a case of practising. Try to move your hands subtle, no big movements. If you have a new string, the diabolo on the left in't losing spin fast, but an old/dirt string kills your Fan.

A S-Fan is infinite, cause both diabolos maintain their speed. The movement of the hands is different from a normal Fan.

Hey everyone. I'm getting closer to understanding the fan now. I even got a few rounds of an S fan (plus exit!). But I think my movements are too big and it tends to go out of control and my hands start moving synchronously after about 5 turns. Any tips?

Hmmm, now i just got to learn Cfans before i even attempt S-fans, got any advise? Ive seen the video and understand how they should work but when i attempt it one diab just flies off the string, any help with this

Ok, i watched your video, and tried to do a fan. I got it working for one circular motion, and then one of them got tangled and rode up to my left stick. I have some questions that i wasnt sure about. Do you wrap both diabolos while doing this? Also, is this some trick in which it is a series of wraps and unwraps? Anyways, thanks for your help. I hope i can get this cool trick too.

Ok Draco, my guess is that you're not unwrapping your backwrap (if that's how you're enterting the fan) while doing the fan. This is a problem. Work on doing backwraps (left) and unwraps without entering the fan to get the motion down right, otherwise you won't be able to maintain or exit a fan with much success. I beleive the "seris of wraps and unwraps" you're describing are continuous long vortexes. This is similar to a fan and can be used to enter a fan. Suggested watching, punkerpanda's vortex tutorial. Good luck bru.