CBS, where we've gotten them every year of the Board draft... but they have a different draft guru this year.

I will gladly take suggestions for where to get them from for this purpose. nfldraftscout doesn't post one with overall draft position numbers for each prospect, plus whatever is taken from that site has to be edited and massaged for format-- pain in the ass.

They are normally linked to NFLDraft scout ( since they bought it) Did Rang buy it back or is CBS just slow in linking the ratings.

No more nfldraftscout powered at the CBS website.

I can use NFL draft scout, but there will either be a master list of the top 400 at all positions mixed together OR position by position but no overall ranking number for each prospect, only an expected order for each position.

It's not THAT outrageous. I have Barkley around 5, taking into account positional value.

NelsonRoquanOrlando Brown

are no-brainers to be ahead of Barkley. And I would have to put Guice ahead of Barkley if I'm thinking about where they are now vs where they will be in 3 years. Barkley is not flawless-- has some vision issues and doesn't always play to his size-- even if he is spectacular most of the time. Guice is almost as gifted and plays the position a little more consistently right now.

Minkah is in that conversation. Chubb I have below Barkley, but positional value makes it pretty much a toss-up.

@gerrydulacMayock thinks Boise State ILB Leighton Vander Esch (6-4, 240) "is a great fit" for Steelers at No. 28. "If you put his tape on against Oregon, it as good an off-the-ball tape I've seen in years. He goes sideline to sideline and is great in the pass game." https://twitter.com/gerrydulac/status/9 ... teelers%2F

It's not THAT outrageous. I have Barkley around 5, taking into account positional value.

NelsonRoquanOrlando Brown

are no-brainers to be ahead of Barkley. And I would have to put Guice ahead of Barkley if I'm thinking about where they are now vs where they will be in 3 years. Barkley is not flawless-- has some vision issues and doesn't always play to his size-- even if he is spectacular most of the time. Guice is almost as gifted and plays the position a little more consistently right now.

Minkah is in that conversation. Chubb I have below Barkley, but positional value makes it pretty much a toss-up.

plus Barkley played for PSU so that drops him several notches immediately on the B2B score sheet.

It's not THAT outrageous. I have Barkley around 5, taking into account positional value.

NelsonRoquanOrlando Brown

are no-brainers to be ahead of Barkley. And I would have to put Guice ahead of Barkley if I'm thinking about where they are now vs where they will be in 3 years. Barkley is not flawless-- has some vision issues and doesn't always play to his size-- even if he is spectacular most of the time. Guice is almost as gifted and plays the position a little more consistently right now.

Minkah is in that conversation. Chubb I have below Barkley, but positional value makes it pretty much a toss-up.

plus Barkley played for PSU so that drops him several notches immediately on the B2B score sheet.

Nah, I think he's pretty great... just RB less valuable, mostly the factor that affects it for me.