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You all saw the race between MSIZZLE's M6 and the twin turbo 370Z. Well, BimmerBoost user blkclk550 edited all the footage into what is a great vid. The intro is awesome and overall it is very well done, check out the video below.

You speak so generally. What about gearing, shift times, drag co-efficiency, power band, etc??

i was trying to get a point over quick, but yah i agree there are many factors that come into play tho... Most cars now a days have pretty good gearing from the factory that are well matched with their motors... so the chances of having a car that makes major power with a really $#@!ty tranny are pretty slim...

I know that in my car the stock tranny is pretty much perfect as far as the ratios and what not for the motor i have.. to compare a few, honda made integra's with 3 different motors and 3 different transmissions... each transmission matches each motor very well...They all have the same 1st gear ratio but everything after that is different..

I think i already made some good points on gearing + power band with the HPF stage 4.... the power band for the 76mm and where they rev the car to pretty much sucks... lol... Yes it makes power but where the car's shift points are + 76mm turbo are not ideal... but thats a whole another thread! haha

Driver/slow shifter is a factor yes, but thats the drivers fault lol...

I would say drag co-efficiency really doesnt come into play untill higher speeds (140+)... Obviously if you drive a brick for a car you're $#@!ed lol....

Power band is a good one, ive always been told you need a solid 3000rpm powerband in drag racing... For example my car makes peak tq @ 6000rpm ish and it holds it until around 9200rpm and i shift at 9500rpm..If tq is constant then power(hp) goes up... every shift i am still in peak tq...

Given the weight and power of a car you can calculate what it SHOULD trap.. It is pretty accurate.. it is within .5mph on my car and pretty close on a few of my friends car's....

trying to clear my schedule to meet Nismo and squeeze tomorrow, but no promises, and unfortunatly for me, ill be on pumpgas, so about 17-18 psi.. which is not ideal for me, but oh well, it is what it is

If your not at 100% you dont have to race us I understand that you need that higher octane. I rather see you at 100% even if I my self cant beat you because I will be fresh of the dyno but I know the Nismo will. Out of everyone on this board you had the most doubt and mouth from pulling up info about the dyno reading high and the nismo only making 440whp drag times from another car that dyno on the same dyno. I even think you said that you will beat him by 5 cars and the motor will blow up you even had a doubt about the dyno done at Vinny 10 shop etc.

I am not even going to sugar coat it I am dying to see Nismo or my self put our foot so far up your azz from all your mouth. I am not one to talk junk but as far as this race goes I cant wait to see it. I am sure in person you will be totally different that's how most people end up being so if you didnt have time to run out your gas and put higher octane another day will be fine.

If your not at 100% you dont have to race us I understand that you need that higher octane. I rather see you at 100% even if I my self cant beat you because I will be fresh of the dyno but I know the Nismo will. Out of everyone on this board you had the most doubt and mouth from pulling up info about the dyno reading high and the nismo only making 440whp drag times from another car that dyno on the same dyno. I even think you said that you will beat him by 5 cars and the motor will blow up you even had a doubt about the dyno done at Vinny 10 shop etc.

I am not even going to sugar coat it I am dying to see Nismo or my self put our foot so far up your azz from all your mouth. I am not one to talk junk but as far as this race goes I cant wait to see it. I am sure in person you will be totally different that's how most people end up being so if you didnt have time to run out your gas and put higher octane another day will be fine.

lol, dude, even on pump ill mop the floor with you, get something done then run your mouth. i still doubt the power the car makes, i still doubt the boost used. i dont believe any of the $#@!.. you want to go deeper into it? no boost controller? isnt Nismo using uprev software?

i guess ill have to dive further into the nissan tuning world, but i sure hope youve been truthful this whole time. if not, it sucks when your caught in a lie

lol, dude, even on pump ill mop the floor with you, get something done then run your mouth. i still doubt the power the car makes, i still doubt the boost used. i dont believe any of the $#@!.. you want to go deeper into it? no boost controller? isnt Nismo using uprev software?

i guess ill have to dive further into the nissan tuning world, but i sure hope youve been truthful this whole time. if not, it sucks when your caught in a lie

Sizzle went for a ride and saw the boost level the nismo is on 6 pound spring so you can come on down tomorrow we will be there at 9:30am or this weekend with your drag radials meth bring it all. I hope your not the type to say your on pump and sneak in the all out set up and then whe you cant win oh I wasnt at 100% cause thats what it looks like your doing.

Yes the Nismo is using Uprev the software doesnt control boost lol it doesnt even read boost 370z's car is NA like you said you need to do a little more research.

In the end why would we need to lie to you do you really think we care its not like we know you or we are racing for money its a message board wow.

I don't know ish about his setup but he would need a mbc or separate ebc, the uprev won't do it. Plus he said he didn't have the uprev cable which would allow him to switch maps. Get in his car first and see him make a WOT pass while you see his boost gauge. That's what he'll be running with uprev.(my bro-in-law runs the uprev on his Z)

With uprev we can switch maps with the cruise control button but the map has to be set up already. So in the nismo case he would need a boost controller to up the boost then switch to another map but this car does not have that yet. When he gets that then he is going to need a re tune for the set up.

Jus got word today on 6psi springs it made 463whp on a conservative tune. I'm gettin a boost controller next month and shoot for 500whp which will be no problem....

then this:
later february

Originally Posted by nismo370

Bro wen I get the ebc it will see 500whp how many $#@!ing times do I have 2 type ittttttt......can u read?

and then recently, right about a month after the OP:

march 20 something, about one month later..

Originally Posted by nismo370

Just came from Vinny Tens Dyno, the same dyno where sizzle got his car dynod at. It made 490whp. No torque numbers because the dyno was readying torque or something one of th techs as telling me. He was having a dyno day. Sizzle can confirm this and talk to vinny if he wants. The dyno sheet wil be up later.

so, once he has a boost controller, whats the process for changing boost? turning a knob?

so, noone else see's this as just a bit coincidental?

and Mr Squeeze, please get your facts straight

Originally Posted by LostMarine

because 483 is not 5xxhp, so he has not met his goal, another 2 psi, if claims ae true would seal the deal. that is all. despite mt arrogance im always eager to learn and root for healthy competition, but that does not mean i have to "+1" your endevours without skepticism or reality kicking in

Originally Posted by MSIZZLE

i for one is actually impressed with the numbers that the kit made, thats in the area of 200whp with a bolt on kit on pump gas!! So I wouldnt knock it because the car didnt smash some 500+whp glory number that some were expecting....

...Anyway remember i run a nissan dealership and i also work with a nissan tuning shop so im very impressed with your car your build and the numbers it made, btw we just did a stillen sc for a customer that put down 443whp.

PS IF YOUR WITHIN 5 CARS OF ME UP TOP WHEN WE RUN I WILL BE VERY SUPRISED!! I'LL MAKE SURE I MOUNT THE GOPRO ON THE BACK BUMPER LOL......

oh, and if you want, i can snap i pic of my fuel guage to show you im at 1/2 tank, as i claim. not everyone tells half truths and muddled stories

Yes the car made 490 uncorrected on the same dyno that Sizzle dyno's on it will make a different number at RT tuning in the morning.The thing that has never changed is the set up I will say it one more time 6 pound spring when Nimso decides to turn it up he will it wont because he wants to sneak you or anybody else on this site.If you have a hard time believing that or if you think uprev controls boost then thats on you man for real.

We have no clue on what set you your going to bring to the table as far as gas or boost level you just opend up a can of worms with the gas thing.

In the end it is what it is a bunch of people talking about racing on a message board good night see you in the am if you come if not I will post some dyno charts tomorrow.

With uprev we can switch maps with the cruise control button but the map has to be set up already. So in the nismo case he would need a boost controller to up the boost then switch to another map but this car does not have that yet. When he gets that then he is going to need a re tune for the set up.

Oh really? I'll have to tell my brother in law then as I know he thinks he needs to take out the cable and laptop to change them. Badass thanks for the info and my bad about the misinfo.

If your not at 100% you dont have to race us I understand that you need that higher octane. I rather see you at 100% even if I my self cant beat you because I will be fresh of the dyno but I know the Nismo will. Out of everyone on this board you had the most doubt and mouth from pulling up info about the dyno reading high and the nismo only making 440whp drag times from another car that dyno on the same dyno. I even think you said that you will beat him by 5 cars and the motor will blow up you even had a doubt about the dyno done at Vinny 10 shop etc.

I am not even going to sugar coat it I am dying to see Nismo or my self put our foot so far up your azz from all your mouth. I am not one to talk junk but as far as this race goes I cant wait to see it. I am sure in person you will be totally different that's how most people end up being so if you didnt have time to run out your gas and put higher octane another day will be fine.

Originally Posted by LostMarine

lol, dude, even on pump ill mop the floor with you, get something done then run your mouth. i still doubt the power the car makes, i still doubt the boost used. i dont believe any of the $#@!.. you want to go deeper into it? no boost controller? isnt Nismo using uprev software?

i guess ill have to dive further into the nissan tuning world, but i sure hope youve been truthful this whole time. if not, it sucks when your caught in a lie

Btw I love these bad blood races! So much more fun than the friendly races. Someone throw some money into it to really spice things up! Lol yes I'm an instigator. LM leave the car running locked all night(if it's safe to do so in your neighborhood)

Oh really? I'll have to tell my brother in law then as I know he thinks he needs to take out the cable and laptop to change them. Badass thanks for the info and my bad about the misinfo.

No problem man the cable allows you to run cipher witch is the data log software that you can use to monitor A/F oil temp IAT Etc and clear trouble codes.Also you can flash the car with maps if your into e-mail tuning I did that just to get my car up and running with a base map and if you like to tune your self you can do that as well with the cable.