From liberals, we need more common sense. Their main position is to perpetuate a policy that guarantees rising U.S. poverty. Consider: From 1990 to 2005, the increase in the number of people living beneath the government's poverty line (now about $20,000 for a family of four) was 3,365,000; the increase in the number of Hispanics living below the poverty line over the same period was 3,362,000. Does anyone doubt that this coincidence stems mostly from immigration?

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Liberals have embraced an unholy alliance with business in which business gets most of the gains and immigration's costs are thrown onto the public sector. The justification is an alleged shortage of unskilled workers. That's a fiction. In March, the unemployment rate for college graduates was 1.8 percent; for the 13 million workers without a high-school diploma, it was 7 percent.

One is responsibility. All of us are morally complicit in the flood of illegal immigrants. Our government encouraged it through loose border controls and lax oversight of employer hiring. A second precept is practicality. Hardly anyone thinks the 12 million can be rounded up and sent home. To pretend otherwise is dishonest, ordains failure and makes government seem inept. It also condones disrespect for the law. By denying legal status to long-standing residents, we perpetuate the system's illegality

To this I have to say HORSE APPLES! it's been done before in operation wet back it could be done again.

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Finally, there's family and humanity. About two thirds of the children of illegal immigrants were born here and are U.S. citizens, reports demographer Jeff Passel of the Pew Hispanic Center. A futile campaign to remove many longtime illegal immigrants would splinter families. Some children would remain here; others—American citizens—would have their lives shattered by their own government.

Oh go cry me a river this all ways makes me sick if there parents were illegal so are they!

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To oversimplify only slightly: Liberals (and the Bush administration) often pander to Hispanic voters;

Yep traitors one and all!

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Long-standing illegal immigrants who meet legislated standards of good behavior and community ties should receive legal status—"amnesty," though by a less provocative label.

One is responsibility. All of us are morally complicit in the flood of illegal immigrants. Our government encouraged it through loose border controls and lax oversight of employer hiring. A second precept is practicality. Hardly anyone thinks the 12 million can be rounded up and sent home. To pretend otherwise is dishonest, ordains failure and makes government seem inept. It also condones disrespect for the law. By denying legal status to long-standing residents, we perpetuate the system's illegality...

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Originally Posted by Ragnarök rising

To this I have to say HORSE APPLES! it's been done before in operation wet back it could be done again.

Lou Dobbs would AGREE with you, Ragnarök, and so do I...

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He has never called for the deportation of all illegal immigrants, but Lou Dobbs believes the U.S. could pull off such a feat if it really wanted to. The CNN anchor, whose stance against illegal immigration has helped raise his ratings but also fueled criticism, speaks to Lesley Stahl for a profile to be broadcast on 60 MINUTES Sunday, May 6 (7:00-8:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

Dobbs is against amnesty programs for illegal immigrants and the president's guest worker proposal, so Stahl wonders whether Dobbs thinks the government could deport all illegal immigrants. "I've never called for their deportation,"says Dobbs. "But at the same time, when this president and open-borders, illegal-alien-amnesty advocates say, 'You can't deport them,' my answer is, 'You want to bet?' because this is the United States. I think this country can do anything it sets its mind to," he tells Stahl.