Because there is no register or log of who owns these "MSSA" type guns or whatever, does that mean people can just hold on to them? If the government doesn't know you own it, then I guess some more hardline people won't feel the need to hand them in?

Also, how much compliance can we expect from a Hand back now, Reimbursement later at whatever value the government decides approach?

I just can't figure out how effective this new law will be, if its so reliant on people being honest and not being able to put an accurate value on the buy back scheme.

The UK government did the same thing. They gave a third of the rifles value. That'd go done like a cup of cold sick.

Wow it sounds like the vetting process was a complete failure for this guy, no at home interview, and referees were a couple of guys he met in a chat room. Police will have a lot to answer for if this is the case.

Lol. The police failed in aramoana. They came out Scott free. They'll do it again.

You need guns to protect yourself from soldiers in helicopters with tanks and thermo with radar tech? Really?

My issue is with Chris Cahill's comment that "police are the coercive arm of the state". That is disgusting, people are protesting against Nazis well Chris Cahill is clearly one of them given that attitude. That man is dangerous.

My issue is with Chris Cahill's comment that "police are the coercive arm of the state". That is disgusting, people are protesting against Nazis well Chris Cahill is clearly one of them given that attitude. That man is dangerous.

HC sheriffs, police and military are the strong arm of the law. Every single politics student in this country is taught that as a fact from the leftist, liberalist - most cuddly liberal academics you can imagine.

The state has a legal monopoly on violence. This is a fact in democratic theory.

Else sovereignty is just a dream.

The physical winners write the laws. This is law. It is politics. We just typically root for and support the democratic freedom fighters...

If 1688 hadn't happened, we may still have a Queen (or king) with serious powers... It's how it works...

You need guns to protect yourself from government soldiers in helicopters with tanks and thermo with radar tech? Really?

Guerilla warfare doesn't work like conventional warfare. There's many modern examples of that kind tech failing to win wars. Also, you can add in the military fracturing due to beliefs of government and the people.