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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

Originally Posted by MaskedMan

Nop, that kakashi cant be a zetsu transformation, zetsu only clone a ninja and his chakra flow, but they cant use their techniques such as chidori/raikiri, about the zetsu that atacked the medical ninja´s camp during the great ninja war, he couldn´t use neji´s byakugan, they only copy chakra nothing more.

Agreed. Kakashi crying and the whole eye connection are intended for us to understand that this was really Kakashi, not a clone or doppleganger. Rin could still be a Zetsu clone that tricked Kakashi into killing her. Although, I'll admit, she is crying too... Evidence that Rin is still alive could be found in 139 (as somebody else posted earlier) where some woman is talking with Kakashi at Obito's grave and we never see her again. Although, this woman doesn't look like Rin at all.

If this is the case, Kakashi was probably pretty shaken up by having to kill a Rin clone and made Rin go into hiding/change her appearance after this incident to keep his promise to Obito since somebody seemed to have it out for her. I'm still holding out for Rin being alive and becoming an integral part of the current time story. It would be a nice twist and a good transition for a character we have yet to meet, such as "the one who knows everything".

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

it could be obito is under a genjitsu since they are fighting the mist and they even say its not rain, plus he says he starts seeing things. i personally think Madara is obviously in control of the mist already and had them do this on purpose.
also it says they are fighting experiments http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/55266860/14
so kakashi and rin can also be fake.
This is going to be the turning point though.
Obito will go back to madara and be evil, thinking rin can be resurrected in the moon eye plan.
but in the end, kakashi will explain what really happened and turn obito good to help the good guys.

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

Well.. I think you guys are forgetting something.. Kakashi hasn't known Obito was alive until just a few chapters ago... So try to think ahead from that... Either Obito left the scene after he witnessed Kakashi kill Rin, or he posed as someone else... which, if he did, doesn't make sense because Kakashi is smart enough to put 2 and 2 together... I dunno what to expect for the next chapter... but I don't believe Kakashi killed Rin purposely. And it's more than likely a ploy by Madara.

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

Originally Posted by BigJollyGiant

Agreed. Kakashi crying and the whole eye connection are intended for us to understand that this was really Kakashi, not a clone or doppleganger. Rin could still be a Zetsu clone that tricked Kakashi into killing her. Although, I'll admit, she is crying too... Evidence that Rin is still alive could be found in 139 (as somebody else posted earlier) where some woman is talking with Kakashi at Obito's grave and we never see her again. Although, this woman doesn't look like Rin at all.

If this is the case, Kakashi was probably pretty shaken up by having to kill a Rin clone and made Rin go into hiding/change her appearance after this incident to keep his promise to Obito since somebody seemed to have it out for her. I'm still holding out for Rin being alive and becoming an integral part of the current time story. It would be a nice twist and a good transition for a character we have yet to meet, such as "the one who knows everything".

Yup, i remember that girl, kakashi is standing by someone´s camp, and she appears right on his side and asks something about obito, it is during the 3rd hokages funeral though.

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

i'm of the opinion kakashi just missed with raikiri and killed her. i dont think it's the silent kill mist because it just looks like rain and vapor on the last page, not the consistent haze like when zabuza used it (could be 100% wrong). actually the more i type, i like the traitor theory as well. small comparison in my own mind, but it seems like the same situation keeps happening with different outcomes. jiraiya couldnt "save" (for lack of a better word) orochimaru for betraying/leaving/whatever, and he ended up dying later. if rin betrays and kakashi kills her for it, it makes it a bit more interesting to see if naruto is the one who succeeds in saving his teammate who betrayed them.

edit - if obito awakens MS from this, how would kakashi get it later instead of now? because it seems the eyes are linked in what powers they can have, but do they share power or is that by the wielder. can you skip from 2 tomoe to MS? if it was previously answered i apologize. didnt read all 14 pages of response :D

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

Obviously there's a mistake because Back when they unmasked Obito he said the reason why he's doing all the crimes is because Kakashi "let" Rin die. Obviously what we saw wasn't him letting her die. He killed her. So Either Rin died somewhere else or Obito worded his reason wrong.

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

Just thought of his what if Rin ran into kakashi attack by accident. Ok let me explain Kakashi and Rin are fighting the mist ninjas, and then Rin gets punched by one of the mist ninjas and stumbles away from her attacker not noticing that she stumbled between the fight with Kakashi and another mist ninja. Not able to stop kakashi hits Rin by accident.
I can be totally off but it might show a little foreshadowing when Naruto and Sasuke were fighting on the rooftop of the hospital and they almost it Sakura.

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

Also the part where Zetsu was saying that with senju and uchiha dna combined you canget a greater just adds more evidence to the fact that you need both DNA to get rinnegan, in my opinion. Maybe now people can stop saying only Uchiha are the only ones that can get Rinnegan.

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

The most reasonable explaination for this is that kakashi was under a genjutsu or he was forced to kill rin because kakashi was always seen mentioning how he couldnt save her and when he hit her with chidori, he was clearly upset

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

Interesting ending. For the people saying Rin was a spy.... LMAO SMH. She is defineatlly not a spy. And even if she was she wouldn't be killed, she'd be captured instead. Nobody is gonna go tell you to kill a 12 year old or whatever >.> I'm sure there will be a good reason as to why Kakashi killed Rin.