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Brush always took the players to Scotland for a week's training camp: I note that Bishop Burton near Beverley is the venue this year, though not sure if it is J-Lo's stamp of authority or a need to keep costs under control. Expect a few videos on the offie.

This season is going to be a real test for J-Lo. He has had continuity from last season and has had time to fully absorb the RU aspects of the game. If we are going to challenge Bristol or Ealing, who both have vastly superior spending power to us, then it will be by dint of J-Lo's superior management.

I have faith in him, and expect his man-management skills to result in us punching above our weight (metaphorically speaking of course).

This does appear to be the case. I am just reminded of the pre-match fans meeting last season when Sir Ian said that to all intents and purposes the club is run on Premiership lines in all aspects. Is this ditched now, what is the vision ? Are we going to be told.

Thanks for your thoughts WW...Although I am struggling to be "realistic"? It would be good to have some straight talking about our Premiership ambition and aspiration for this season?

Better for J-Lo to say "its not going to happen"...and then we can all relax? The Play offs are gone...which for me is a shame...as it was another...end of season...last throw of the dice?

I wish I could share your optimism Almo...regarding 'management skills' against ££££-adversity?

The'straight top of the League'promotion criteria favours the big clubs and big cheque books...the RFU seems to care little for enhancing opportunity and mobility from the Championship..It doesn't 'look fair'...which is bad for the image of the game....and it aint at all fair for Yorkshire Rugby...just the victim of market forces?!

Are we seriously expecting to beat Bristol and Ealing this year? Of course miracles do happen ..and wouldn't it be nice...but is this really just me having another flight of fancy?

Maybe Premiership ambition is now a 'lost cause'...and all we will hear is the usual propaganda to keep folks on board?

I come to watch Leeeds (?) because at the back of my mind I believe it is do-able to regain a position at the Top Table...which would be great for Yorkshire's youngsters and all the fans across the County?...Am I deluded...and need to keep taking the tablets...or are there secret signings to come??

Maybe our best hope is to pool/amalgamate resources with Donny/Rotherham and try to rebuild a formidable combined team?

First time I haven't renewed my season ticket. I will come to games...all the same...certainly in the Autumn. I am back from hols 3rd wk Sept...but will follow on computers. By then we will have some 'hard evidence' to go on? Normally optimistic??....BUT big ???......and yet remain to be convinced this year!!?

I've seen it lot worse teams as well but few worse supporters. Always moaning . If it's not about the price of beer it's about the food choices if it's not about the ground it's about the name if it's not about lack of information it's about on the road games and so on and so on. If you are a fan learn to live with it and go out and support your team.

yorkie baI've seen it lot worse teams as well but few worse supporters. Always moaning . If it's not about the price of beer it's about the food choices if it's not about the ground it's about the name if it's not about lack of information it's about on the road games and so on and so on. If you are a fan learn to live with it and go out and support your team.

Yep if you are a supporter you will put up with the ordure and follow the lads come what ever. Good post Yorkie!

bspa2I have always got answers to sensible questions when I have talked to the management. Too often, posters assume the managers are idiots - which they are not.

Agreed. But it is really frustrating that they are keeping us in the dark - we know money is tight - why can't they talk to us about it?
Turning your quote on its head: do management think we are idiots, then?

Although I have no inside knowledge, my guess is that management is preoccupied with negotiations to maintain or even improve funding. If the money was reducing further, it would trigger difficult decisions and that is not the sort of thing you want to discuss publicly until you know where you are.

The Premiership cabal have made it very difficult to keep the relegated team in the Championship. London Welsh-type implosions won't happen very often.

I am very worried that we have only one warmup game before season starts. All the others have at least a couple to get match fit. Is it because we don't have a big enough squad or no one wants to play us. I think we could suggest for fitness in the first few games. Especially one and or two players

MadtykeMy daughter Grace is to be Club Mascot at the Rotherham game in December.

My daughter was Mascot couple of seasons ago at the London Scottish game, well looked after had a great evening looking round changing rooms and was sent a pic of her and Buzz a few days later which still has a place on her wall,

IMHO its the one thing the club gets right constantly she will have a great day

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