As millions continue to leave the work force because there is not a job to be found, the official unemployment rate can improve. Obama could potentially achieve a 0.00% unemployment rate with just one last American working.

The Fed is NOT safe from audit, Trump has said he wants to audit the fed and we may have some bills coming up soon.

Trump is helping Rand pass his healthcare plan, if you think Trump actually supported RyanCare then you are foolish and you need to go read the threads where I addressed this topic. Rand was talking to Trump 2-3 times a week, and Rand told Trump straight up it wasn't going to pass, it didn't have the votes. Trump knew it wasn't going to pass, so he supported it to make sure it was all Paul Ryan's failure and none of it could be blamed on him. Trump hates Paul Ryan.

Trump is going to help save Syria, with Russia's help.

Originally Posted by Mordan

It is not about brainwashing. You can support Trump for practical reasons. I think Danno is right about the Syria missile strikes helping Trump politically in the US. The media stopped talking about the sickening russian narrative. Proof again it was just a hoax to manipulate the public opinion.

Trump made a good call as a politician. Libertarian souls can bitch all they want about principles and being conned. Trump is going to disappointed again. I have enough hairchest.

They can say what they want. The figures in <backwater>, USA don't follow.

My county..

2012 10 10·0

This is about as liberal assessment as I have seen. Well over 18% in my county. Well over.

Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

Should be closing in on 7.0% even by the end of the year. The trend is good!

Oh yeah, everything is coming up roses.

Originally Posted by misterx

Yeah, I like cops. They keep the streets safe. Get over it.

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Originally Posted by dannno

The Fed is NOT safe from audit, Trump has said he wants to audit the fed and we may have some bills coming up soon.

Trump is helping Rand pass his healthcare plan, if you think Trump actually supported RyanCare then you are foolish and you need to go read the threads where I addressed this topic. Rand was talking to Trump 2-3 times a week, and Rand told Trump straight up it wasn't going to pass, it didn't have the votes. Trump knew it wasn't going to pass, so he supported it to make sure it was all Paul Ryan's failure and none of it could be blamed on him. Trump hates Paul Ryan.

Trump is going to help save Syria, with Russia's help.

Originally Posted by Mordan

It is not about brainwashing. You can support Trump for practical reasons. I think Danno is right about the Syria missile strikes helping Trump politically in the US. The media stopped talking about the sickening russian narrative. Proof again it was just a hoax to manipulate the public opinion.

Trump made a good call as a politician. Libertarian souls can bitch all they want about principles and being conned. Trump is going to disappointed again. I have enough hairchest.

Should be closing in on 7.0% even by the end of the year. The trend is good!

If you consider an unemployment check as being employed.

Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

Should be closing in on 7.0% even by the end of the year. The trend is good!

Ya, I'm curious if when the "unemployment rate" reaches 6.5% Bernanke will raise interest rates as he said he would. If rates are allowed to go up any significant amount, excess reserves will be dumped in a hurry, spiking massive instant inflation, causing loss of confidence in the dollar, and sending us in a spiral.

The interest rates are stuck near zero I think, for the remaining life of the dollar's history.

("unemployment rate" is in quotes because its obviously a bull$#@! made up number)

It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.

Since 2005 the unemployment rate in Hillsdale, Michigan has ranged from 6.2% in October 2005 to 19% in July 2009. The current unemployment rate for Hillsdale is 8.4% in September 2012. See how other local areas compare by using our Unemployment Compare tool.

If the unemployment number here dropped that sharply it's because people are fleeing this county. Probably to Indiana.

As for myself I'm an unemployed College Student. I'm not looking for work because there are no jobs here. This place is an economic disaster. I need to finish school, get my stupid diploma paper, and bug out of here.

If the government said tomorrow that unemployment was at 2% it wouldn't make it so. And national makes no difference when it comes to regional for an individual.

Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

Do you think it's a coincidence that the most cherished standard of the Ron Paul campaign was a sign highlighting the word "love" inside the word "revolution"? A revolution not based on love is a revolution doomed to failure. So, at the risk of sounding corny, I just wanted to let you know that, wherever you stand on any of these hot-button issues, and even if we might have exchanged bitter words or harsh sentiments in the past, I love each and every one of you - no exceptions!

Should be closing in on 7.0% even by the end of the year. The trend is good!

Jordan Your faith in the keynesian model is unflappable. Have you ever considered that left alone the economy would have recovered quicker?

Originally Posted by BuddyRey

Do you think it's a coincidence that the most cherished standard of the Ron Paul campaign was a sign highlighting the word "love" inside the word "revolution"? A revolution not based on love is a revolution doomed to failure. So, at the risk of sounding corny, I just wanted to let you know that, wherever you stand on any of these hot-button issues, and even if we might have exchanged bitter words or harsh sentiments in the past, I love each and every one of you - no exceptions!

Two things will probably slow the January figures. One is holiday temporary help being let go. Two is the still remaining uncertainty about the budget issues. Companies are holding off more hiring until they get a better idea of the future.

"The future is here, it's just not evenly distributed yet." - William Gibson

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Say it is 50 or 60 % , that is not enough taxpayers to keep spending going without adding 5 -6 trillion in debt every four years or so , I imagine.Spending cuts have to happen, or fail , we all know there is no intent to cut spending , leaving one result.

Medicare would have to be cut to the bone ( eliminated or only for the destitute ), Social Security money would have to be pulled out into a seperate fund, defense would have to be cut, about everything else eliminated .Never going to happen.

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The problem is that they don't count people that can no longer apply for unemployment benefits as unemployed in their numbers. I hate they say people that are no longer claiming unemployment benefits as being people that gave up looking for work. I believe most are people that no longer can claim benefits because they ran out of benefits. There is a ton of long term unemployed people that they called hopelessly unemployed people. The government needs to do something help out those that no longer get benefits that have been out of work for a year or two.

This article below says there are 3 million hopelessly unemployed people that is about 10 percent of the US population. So add 7.8 + 10 = almost 18 percent real unemployment.

The problem is that they don't count people that can no longer apply for unemployment benefits as unemployed in their numbers. I hate they say people that are no longer claiming unemployment benefits as being people that gave up looking for work. I believe most are people that no longer can claim benefits because they ran out of benefits. There is a ton of long term unemployed people that they called hopelessly unemployed people. The government needs to do something help out those that no longer get benefits that have been out of work for a year or two.

This article below says there are 3 million hopelessly unemployed people that is about 10 percent of the US population. So add 7.8 + 10 = almost 18 percent real unemployment.

Not exactly true. To be in the workforce, you must meet two criteria. One- have a paid job- be working. Or number two- not have a job but be actively looking for one. If you aren't looking for a job, you aren't in the workforce and you aren't considered unemployed.

Whether or not you are receiving any sort of unemployment benefits does not add or remove you from being considered unemployed. If your benefits run out and you don't look for work, yes- then you will not be considered to be part of the work force. If your benefits run out and you are actively looking for a job and not working for money, you will still be counted as unemployed and in the workforce.

To be elgible to be on unemployment, you are supposed to be looking for a job but people may fudge on that to collect the money. Once the benfits do run out, they may fess up and say they aren't looking for a job. That WILL get them considered no longer in the workforce.

They conduct telephone surveys and ask thousands every month a series of questions to try to determine if they are working or looking for a job.

From the CNN article:

They're not counted as part of the labor force, the official unemployment rate, or the category the Labor Department refers to as "discouraged workers" -- those who haven't bothered to look for work in the last four weeks.

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"The future is here, it's just not evenly distributed yet." - William Gibson

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