A Bit of a Flame (commented on by Methos)

> probably arguing that anything non-human *can't* be language. But even
> within the realm of humanity there are real and possible examples that
> defy your models. Try exploring Silbo, a language that is entirely
> whistled.

yeah...and what about that all-gargle language? whoops, I wiped that out a
few millenia ago. sorry.

> You won't find those phones on the IPA. Ever paused to think
> about what human language might be like in 10 billion years?

plenty of times. here's the answer:
*//-=9790jkn [[==-]]-=-=;
and that's just the [polite addressing to you from singular self me].

> that if one of Chomsky's finite state machines started
> generating "grammatically correct" sentences today that humans then
> would't recognize them as such. The very fact that one can create a
> language means that one can create a language outside one of your beloved
> models.

unless one creates within the model.
just because one has all-terrain vehicles does not make road maps useless.

> not be placed under arrest and the planets will even remain in the
> heavens.

no they won't; I'll have them for lunch.

> The whole universe does not have to be variations of noun-and-verb-based
> SVO "grammatical"sentences.

prove it.

> specifically framed in your pet models. And remember, there are such
> things as *NEW* models and ideas.

yes? and how do you explain new models? (without, that is, using words and
grammatical order from the previous models?).