I agree, but 3dmark11 is the same way (extreme preset is super jittery just like Firestrike Extreme in the new one) on my 7970s and 3dmark11 is much more even between AMD/Nvidia than this new one is...

My 2 7970's got a pretty decent score in crossfire but the experience wasn't smooth. The final Firestrike test was awful, despite it getting a high score.

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And I score the same in single-card mode as I do in CFX. Only difference is in CFX, Fire strike has flickering and both GPUs are loaded to 50% and then no more.
I just don't get it. I have the 13.1s installed with the 12.11 CAP, the cards both see 100% usage in other benches and while gaming, but 3DMark 2013 acts as if it can only utilize one card fully. Hence why I haven't posted any runs here.

And I score the same in single-card mode as I do in CFX. Only difference is in CFX, Fire strike has flickering and both GPUs are loaded to 50% and then no more.
I just don't get it. I have the 13.1s installed with the 12.11 CAP, the cards both see 100% usage in other benches and while gaming, but 3DMark 2013 acts as if it can only utilize one card fully. Hence why I haven't posted any runs here.

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SCores aren't EXACTLY the same, but yes, what you are getting is normal for the 13.1 driver. 13.2 beta changes that.

If you want to use 13.1, you need to create a profile for 3DMark, enable crossfire for apps with no profile, and then pick a CFX rendering mode from the 3D controls(all of this using CCC).

Once I installed the beta, I cannot go back to older versions in WIndows8. Windows7 it's OK, just need to use the driver removal tool, but AMD didn't provide similar for WIn8, and the tool just ruins WIn8 is a big big way.

SCores aren't EXACTLY the same, but yes, what you are getting is normal for the 13.1 driver. 13.2 beta changes that.

If you want to use 13.1, you need to create a profile for 3DMark, enable crossfire for apps with no profile, and then pick a CFX rendering mode from the 3D controls(all of this using CCC).

Once I installed the beta, I cannot go back to older versions in WIndows8. Windows7 it's OK, just need to use the driver removal tool, but AMD didn't provide similar for WIn8, and the tool just ruins WIn8 is a big big way.

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Thanks, I was trying to figure out what was up.
Guess I wait for the next WHQL driver or tinker in CCC to do some oc runs in 3DMark 2013.

Anyone else find it weird that this bench favors AMD's cards so much that the Titan barely beats the 7970?

That seems like a bit of a fail on Futuremark's part if the goal is to represent gaming performance...

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it doesn't truly relate TODAY'S gaming performance. but it is fairly accurate...AMD cards are better at compute stuff, and that's why they do so well in this benchmark. Titan is faster, and scores a bit more, but it's not truly that much faster for compute, and once you are over 60FPS, amny will say the gains aren't noticeable...

Personally, I feel that Titan is about 15-20% faster than 7970m single card. Titan isn't really meant to be used as a single GPU, however, and in multiGPU, it far exceeds anything AMD could ever hope to do. And when in MultiGPU, in this benchmark, it DOES far exceed what AMD is capable of.

So, to me, this bench is actually pretty accurate. Even CPU weighting plays little role, as is the case in most games. once you reach an acceptable level of CPU performance, increases over that don't bring much benefit.

it doesn't truly relate TODAY'S gaming performance. but it is fairly accurate...AMD cards are better at compute stuff, and that's why they do so well in this benchmark. Titan is faster, and scores a bit more, but it's not truly that much faster for compute, and once you are over 60FPS, amny will say the gains aren't noticeable...

Personally, I feel that Titan is about 15-20% faster than 7970m single card. Titan isn't really meant to be used as a single GPU, however, and in multiGPU, it far exceeds anything AMD could ever hope to do. And when in MultiGPU, in this benchmark, it DOES far exceed what AMD is capable of.

So, to me, this bench is actually pretty accurate. Even CPU weighting plays little role, as is the case in most games. once you reach an acceptable level of CPU performance, increases over that don't bring much benefit.

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Having had my Titan for a week or so now and settled with a stock BIOS (for now) with clocks at 1100MHz under water, I can happily say the difference is night and day. Also, the 3Dmark scores are close but the clocks aren't. DOM has his 7970 scoring 9025 with 1300/1950 with cpu at 4.8 and Metal Racer has his Titan at 10516 at 1048/1722. That's only 16% faster for the Titan but it can be boosted past 1200MHz on a different BIOS. Titan,unlike the 7970 is heavily restricted by Nvidia. Time will tell how fast it is.

Anyhoo, I need to sell my 7970's on flea bay now - seems nobody likes a good deal in the UK

Having had my Titan for a week or so now and settled with a stock BIOS (for now) with clocks at 1100MHz under water, I can happily say the difference is night and day. Also, the 3Dmark scores are close but the clocks aren't. DOM has his 7970 scoring 9025 with 1300/1950 with cpu at 4.8 and Metal Racer has his Titan at 10516 at 1048/1722. That's only 16% faster for the Titan but it can be boosted past 1200MHz on a different BIOS. Titan,unlike the 7970 is heavily restricted by Nvidia. Time will tell how fast it is.

Anyhoo, I need to sell my 7970's on flea bay now - seems nobody likes a good deal in the UK

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I don't care about clock-for clock, just what we can get as an end user in performance. I don't consider 1300 MHz legit for 24/7 on a 7970...1100 MHz, yeah. And you're right ,too early to know what clocks are going to be the average. I'm thinking it'll be about the same, 1100 MHz. Launch cards are always better, no matter what brand.

Thanks bro! I bought the 1st card from memory express and a week later they were sold out!

A week later I seen they had 4 more in stock and took a look at the serial numbers... Theres only 108 difference in the last 3 digits so i was hoping it came off the same assembly line. I was right!

grabbed the 2nd gpu and it clocks as well as the 1st card! cross-fire works like a charm. I can play Crysis 3 at ultimate settings and does it ever run smooth! Tomb raider runs even better!

I just think if I had a board that has PCI-E 3.0 slots I could do better but till I sell this one the next board will have to wait.

Im thinking of the Formula 5 ROG board so I can cool the VRM's with water.

Cooling is water on the 2700k and the rad is a cheap one given to me by Chicken Patty a few years ago. Im thinking of stepping up to an EK rad.

Here is a picture of what Im doing ATM... In the picture I have the side off the case and a tower fan blowing cold air into the case with the window open... Outside air is -3c and ambient temp is 19.4c Case temp is 23c

Highest wattage draw I've seen has been 794 watts from the plugin. Thats using a Corsair 850HX PSU.

Im thinking of updating the mobo's bios to see if anything changes... If not i have a second bios i can flash back off

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Thanks bro! I bought the 1st card from memory express and a week later they were sold out!

A week later I seen they had 4 more in stock and took a look at the serial numbers... Theres only 108 difference in the last 3 digits so i was hoping it came off the same assembly line. I was right!

grabbed the 2nd gpu and it clocks as well as the 1st card! cross-fire works like a charm. I can play Crysis 3 at ultimate settings and does it ever run smooth! Tomb raider runs even better!

I just think if I had a board that has PCI-E 3.0 slots I could do better but till I sell this one the next board will have to wait.

Im thinking of the Formula 5 ROG board so I can cool the VRM's with water.

Cooling is water on the 2700k and the rad is a cheap one given to me by Chicken Patty a few years ago. Im thinking of stepping up to an EK rad.

Here is a picture of what Im doing ATM... In the picture I have the side off the case and a tower fan blowing cold air into the case with the window open... Outside air is -3c and ambient temp is 19.4c Case temp is 23c

Highest wattage draw I've seen has been 794 watts from the plugin. Thats using a Corsair 850HX PSU.

Im thinking of updating the mobo's bios to see if anything changes... If not i have a second bios i can flash back off