come on this is all just more proof of which consoles are worthy and those which are not. and once again wii you cannot rival ps3 or 360 systems, and forget about comparing to next gen. They way things look if i didn't know anything about games i would consider wii u some type of portable handheld device since it is only on par with portable devices. of course ps3 would be dominating though no surprise there, we produce quality.

"Devs want to show off their flag shipped games on the most popular console."

Then in that case, it would go PS3 > 360 world wide right? lol. Considering the PS3 has been outselling the 360 WW for many years. Anyways, it's common knowledge that MANY (if not most) genres, other than shooters, sell more on PS3, except for maybe WRPG's.

Racing games, fighting games, platformers, hack n slash games, JRP's, and action adventure games most of the time sell better on PS3. Of course shooters are the most popular genre right now so you thinking "Everything else sells better on Xbox" is understandable.

Worldwide sales really helped with DMC but it just shows again that outside of shooters ps3 gamers buy more compared to 360. Most 360 gamers get a 360 for Halo and Gears with the multis on top whereas people buy PS3 for more than that.

Yeah somewhat true. But I wouldn't call Xbox a "Halo and Gears only" type of machine. The Sony gamers tend to be into the God of War's and the DmC's and stuff. I've never been into that style of gaming and that's why I prefer Xbox. I can't speak for the other millions of Xbox gamers but yes my games are indeed MOSTLY shooters, but I have plenty of racing games, Assassin's Creed type games, sports games, kinect games (I'm not just a pure hardcore). This gen is the first time I've ever been remotely interested in an RPG style game (Elder Scrolls)

I for one just can't get into anything else, but I was so happy I tried out Elder Scrolls Oblivion because that really changed my perspective.

Side note: If you like games similar to Command and Conquer, in WWII style, but with a twist you should REALLY REALLY REALLY try the game RUSE. Most underrated game ever it is so much fun (PS3 and 360). I just play Battles all the time!

Whilst what you say is true , The wiiu is far from in the same ball park as the PS vita yet. The Vita has been out for over a year globaly and is on 4 Million. The Wiiu has been out less than 2 months globaly and is on 3M. By the time the wiiu has been out for a Year+ like the vita has , expect over 10,000,000 Wiiu's sold.

Especially as killer games come in time for this years holiday season.

I know Sony fans want to pretend the Wiiu is somehow in the same boat as the vita , but it simply is not and will be successfull by end of 2013.

I know you can't respond, but it was never meant to suggest they are in the same boat. It's true things are much dire for the Vita and it is by no stretch to say that gamers want this thing to pick up and start selling like hotcakes. Once the likes of Kilzone, JRPGs for Japan are released things should look brighter.

10,000,000? I think you're overestimating Nintendo's "hardcore" fanbase, at least from a global perspective. Europe's interest in the WiiU is dismal right now, about on-par with the Gamecube's launch. And the Gamecube had Super Smash Bros Melee a month after launch and Super Mario Sunshine within a year of launch.

There are two things that could get the WiiU over 10 million by the end of 2013:

1) A price drop

2) Casual games

But price is the key. The WiiU won't match the Wii's success at $300/$350. If there isn't a price drop, people will have to spend $350/$400 to buy a WiiU with Wii Fit U this summer, and that's if they already have the balance board.

I don't see casual gamers buying the WiiU for $350, just like casual gamers didn't buy the 3DS for $250 and currently the PSV for $250.

yes, but i couldn't help but notice than when the ps3 outsold the 360 is when sales are very low world wide. if im not mistaken 360 outsold ps3 during the holidays. Anyways im ready to move to next gen, and I only care about the playstation

Regardless of final numbers, it amazes me how badly Sony F'ed up this generation. When you look at where they were with the PS2 to what they have become with the PS3 its kinda shocking. I mean #1 by a country mile with the PS2 to struggling to get to 2nd place before the next generation transitions. They pissed away their market share this generation.

I give them kudos for the turn around they have done. Certainly Sony seems to have righted the ship nicely but dear lord... 6yrs to get to where they are just seems crazy when you think back to how fantastic the PS2 sold and dominated.

My point is in 2005 Sony had a dominating 51% market share with the PS2, that figure has dropped this gen to approx a 30% marketshare coming in to 2013 with the PS3. That is an icredible shift in the market make-up.

They didn't "piss away" anything. The Wii tapped into a market that wasn't nearly as much of a factor last generation, so one could argue that much of its sales don't even factor into the "market share" argument.

Is there some part of people's brains that can't grasp that each generation things all BUT go back to zero? Otherwise, we'd be saying this about Nintendo after they ran a couple of consecutive generations, too.

Edit: The MAIN point, LackingSenseGamer, is that performance in one gen is NO indicator of how you'll do next gen. Comparing market share from one generation to the next is pointless because of this.

I mean, do we expect things to be exactly the same this gen, with the Wii U doing 90 million despite having a different audience and new competition on the market?

Market share is an acceptable measure WITH CONTEXT. Not just tossed up arbitrarily. Just like sales or anything else.

So based on the counter starting from zero, MS has done exceedingly better this time round than they did with the original Xbox as they have seen their console market share increase from around 12.5% to 29.5%. Nintendo has fared even better increasing their console market share from 11.5% for the GameCube to 41% for the Wii. Finally, to date, Sony has been the only one to lose out as their market share has, to date, fallen from 76% (PS2) to around 29.5% (PS3).

I dare say these market shares will change as the PS3 continues to perform well towards the end of its life cycle but compared to previous gen they have lost ground at the expense of their competitors. However, overall more units in total have been shipped this gen than last gen which has to be good for the gaming industry.

you seem to lack it to a certain degree. Microsoft started this gen with a 100% market. This isn't going off of the generation before it. We're speaking solely about this gen. They went from a dominating first to a distance third this generation alone. Microsoft had PC-like architecture, advertisement, exclusive DLC, and let's fact it (America). Wii passed had it's price point and innovation to propel it passed 360. Sony's first party and 2nd party have shot Sony into the number 2 spot. Sony had bad media, poor advertising, complex architecture, once sony exclusive IPs going multiplatform, and let's not forget the price. Sony's ego took a hit and they started trying to win the GAMERS back. We don't want to dance with virtual avatars. We don't want a camera for voice commands when we could have easily used our headsets at a fraction of the cost. We don't want to have to pay for Netflix/Hulu Plus and then pay to use them on our console. We don't want to have to pay for a service that is free on PC. Ps2 expanded the market during it's generation much like how the Wii did this generation. Seems like to me, you have to find a way to expand the market to be number one.

ah, the one bubble bandit again...lol What he said is right on. Sony has taken a beating these past years and it shows with how poorly the vita is doing. There has been no vita titles in the top 10. Sony only has about 9 to 10 months before next gen hits and I don't see them making up any global market share. They should just focus resources on the PS4 and try to get Vita sales up some more.

realize one fact. There will never be another "ps2" again. Stop trying to compare the success of the ps3 according to ps2 standards. It's like trying to compare every FPS success based on COD standards. If ps3 sells 100 million then, it will looked at as a success to Sony.

with the anti Sony news. Now i wont deny that Sony had some short comings this generation. There are so many other factors that come into play when you're talking about the ps2. It was a much different market at the time. Dreamcast died because of piracy and Microsoft didn't launch xbox until some time after ps2. PS2 expanded the market as a whole. Kinda of like how the Wii did this gen. Sony also had a format to push and bring programmers up to multicore cpu (8 instead of 4)with the ps3.

Having an entire year to yourself, launching as the first next gen console. Having a lead as much as 10 million and the market share of 100%. Sony never had 100 % market share in any generation and neither has Nintendo. To lose that and end up in last place speaks more to me. Now which company has been more of a failure?

on the previous generation to justify Microsoft from going first to last this generation. He was saying that when a generation starts, the previous one is irrelevant because those sales are locked in stone. Going by that logic, Nintendo would have lost the most market share. Nothing justifies blowing a lead as big as 10 million with a year headstart. I'm pretty sure investor aren't being as optimistic about it as you are.

If I'm not mistaken I did say Sony had some short comings this generation. You're play semantics with this now. You're using "head start" in a different context then other people. We already made this point about Nintendo if you were to use that type of logic. Sony's previous generations, each playstation has sold over 100 million. All signs show the ps3 is going to continue that trend. The last generation didn't make Sony look bad, it actually does the opposite. Sony's ego hurt them in the beginning but by becoming humble, it paid off for them in the long run. Microsoft lost track of what got them to where they were and ended up in last place.

@Dlacy13g - "When you look at where they were with the PS2 to what they have become with the PS3 its kinda shocking."

Yeah it is shocking. Shocking that so many people went with the casual Wii, though many of them weren't the average gamer type, but even more shocking that so many people jumped on the 360 bandwagon after the way MS dumped the XBox. People continued to buy 360s after they were shown to be one of the worst built consumer electronics products in history. Shocking indeed.

CommonSenseGamer has about as much common sense as LogicWins has logic. Sony spanked everyone soundly last gen, so now it's a huge victory for the other players to gain market share? Come on now. MS had nowhere to go but up, and Nintendo knew they couldn't compete with either MS or Sony on their terms so they went after an almost completely different market. Even though the Wii is cheap to produce, it was a big risk that paid off for them. Sony launched a high priced console during a worldwide recession, after giving their main competitor a year head start. The fact that they've done as well as they have is remarkable. End of story.

What is SONY doing??? They have a great piece of hardware in the Vita and its drying up on the vine...They need to get some killer games going....get that cross controller function going on more games...like to see it in Aliens Colonial Marines actually....get to a price where it becomes a must have....