You quantify it with Australian Law. If a product isnt fit for purpose, or if it doesn't do what it says it does on the box. We're entitled to a refund. There is more to it of course, but thats the crux.

As for 'other industries', they all fall under the same banner. They may have restrictions all they want, but the law trumps their restrictions. Hence this court case.

Valve can remove their services from Australia. The corresponding thousands of dollars in refunds would make me laugh though

But Valve wont go anywhere. They'll set up a specific policy for Australia, they'll enforce an AUDollar tax like those Wankers at Blizzard have done. Fuck you Blizzard and your fucking AUDollar tax. Those cunts arent getting one more cent from me. Fuck ActiBlizz.

I was once a fanboy too

NKD wrote on Aug 29, 2014, 16:48:So what's the level of bugginess or "lousiness" which qualifies a game for a refund? How do you quantify it? Everyone has different standards. Do you really think anyone should be entitled to unlimited refunds for any stated reason? Because a lot of people would just be like "Heh heh heh, I can get this game for free by beating it really quickly and saying I had a lot of bugs and the game crashed a lot!"

You mention "other industries" but fail to acknowledge that other industries ALSO have restrictions on refunds and returns to help prevent abuse.

Before you can offer refunds, you need measures in place to prevent abuse by self-absorbed nitwits who think they deserve all their games for free.

So some people get that 42 is the "Answer to The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything"?

As for the towel reference, here is an excerpt from the book 'The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy', you may have heard of it. "A towel, it says, is about the most massively useful thing an interstellar hitchhiker can have. Partly it has great practical value..."

Google / wiki about Douglas Adams, towel day etc.

I for one appreciate this, why you say? Because it show's they're nerds and not big business. Much like the original Wow team, nerds creating a game with passion behind them can create something truely great.

Is David DeMartini still in charge of Origin? When this bloke was asked about discounts in Origin, similar to Steam sales. Here was his reply "We won't be doing that. ... I just think it cheapens your intellectual property .... just don't look for 75 percent off going-out-of-business sales."

SpectralMeat wrote on Mar 11, 2014, 19:24:This game will be awesome for mobile devices.

This game was made for mobile, but it was a great way to get Battle.net onto peoples computers. Much like Counter Strike users had Steam forced onto them.

Game is fun, but after 100+ games I cant sit at my PC anymore to play it. Too many other, better options. But when its out for my Tab ... Also, they've only recently added Android and Windows Tab to the upcoming device options. Before it was only iPads etc.

GameAnger wrote on Feb 25, 2014, 19:31:Which is ironic since all he does is bag the game / company, yet isnt subbed.

Personally $60 to me is less than 2 hours work. Compare this to leveling an entire character to 90, I like the idea.

Sadly I have 6 over 85 characters. Like Fuck am I paying $60 to increase 3 or 4 bloody levels though

How is it ironic when it's based on gaming with Blizzard since they started. Back when they used to be cool.

And well aren't you the big fucking shot. Ok Mr. Big Shot, why don't you buy everyone here all the games on our Steam wishlists. You know, since it's just money and it doesn't mean anything to a big shot like you. No? Didn't think so. Keep talkin' the talk though sport, it's all you're good for.

No need to be angry Cutts, although you do it better than most.

Fact is some people have more money to spend on their hobbies than others. This is what Blizzard are using to full effect.

But as always you take it personal, then add an attack and followed up with further abuse. Dude, you really need to get out more, excercise, smell the roses, take a walk on the beach, find a GF / BF. But then without your anger, this place wouldnt be the same

Cutter wrote on Feb 25, 2014, 18:30:I so fucking hate Actiblizz now. It actually makes me froth up black bile from the pits of Hell when I even think about them. If Bobby Nodick died of hemorrhoids tomorrow I'd break out the champagne.

So clearly you don't have a strong opinion on the subject?

Which is ironic since all he does is bag the game / company, yet isnt subbed.

Personally $60 to me is less than 2 hours work. Compare this to leveling an entire character to 90, I like the idea.

Sadly I have 6 over 85 characters. Like Fuck am I paying $60 to increase 3 or 4 bloody levels though