Oh and this BS with if you supported the war. Your an idiot, Stupid, Dont think for your self. on and on and on. And if you where opposed to the war you are smart and forward thinking. Thats whats destroying this country. You could talk disagree and move on. Now if you disagree well you live in flyover country anyway so you dont matter. or well your a gun owner so you automatically are dumb and your opinion does not matter. Only the coast matter. We will tell you whats best. Cant we all just get along?

lolpix:Yogimus: You know what makes me weep? How everyone OTHER than those two get a complete pass.

/lookin at you congress

Those two got a complete pass. Criticism is not prosecution. Obama is going to get a pass too. There is something about the collective American psyche that would rather see our homegrown war criminals go free than admit to ourselves that Americans are capable of committing war crimes.

Julius Caesar and Alexander the Great are their heroes and you know what they were. It's insanity.

Confabulat:Every American who supported that nonsense war and fell for their bullshiat, when it was plenty obvious even at the time there were major holes in their story, needs to apologize.

I farkin' stood out in the rain with an anti-war sign in traffic. I never do shiat like that but I knew bullshiat when I saw it.

What was your excuse?

That's the thing though, you didn't know, you were opposing Bush and Cheney for your own partisan reasons and / or you hate and oppose any war. The latter I respect much more than the former, but I respect them both. Intelligence organizations around the world were in agreement with our own, you weren't some genius out there in the rain protesting, your gut feeling was just.. well, right. I'll apologize to you, I'm sorry you got wet out there holding that sign accomplishing nothing.

muck4doo:Sorry, didn't realize i spent years on fark arguing for it. But forget all that, time to wipe out people with differing views! It's the Confabulat way.

I have exactly three Farkers color coded in some sort of "favorited" way. One is an old friend, another doesn't post here anymore, and there's you who I have labeled in red as "right-wing war cultist."

Are you revising your own history now to better fit the present? Sounds typical of losers. There weren't a lot of Nazis in Germany after the Allies won either. And the Commies got awful quiet after the Soviet Union dissolved.

You'd think people would own up to their own opinions, but I guess no one likes knowing they are an idiot.

violentsalvation:That's the thing though, you didn't know, you were opposing Bush and Cheney for your own partisan reasons and / or you hate and oppose any war.

Nah, I don't think that was true at the time. Yeah, I GREW to hate Bush & Cheney but that was their doing, not mine. I wasn't out opposing Afghanistan; I think most Americans were dying to find Bin Laden after 9/11. But a lot of us got pretty upset how they mined that sentiment for their own private war, and let gullible Americans who needed SOMETHING after that terrible day to lead the charge.

I never knew I was a liberal until I was out standing in the rain. Mostly I always just thought I mocked everyone up until that time.

kombi:Oh and this BS with if you supported the war. Your an idiot, Stupid, Dont think for your self. on and on and on. And if you where opposed to the war you are smart and forward thinking. Thats whats destroying this country. You could talk disagree and move on. Now if you disagree well you live in flyover country anyway so you dont matter. or well your a gun owner so you automatically are dumb and your opinion does not matter. Only the coast matter. We will tell you whats best. Cant we all just get along?

Yeah, sorry, you people created that escalation of rhetoric.

America: Love it or leave it!

America! If you are against the iraq war you are a traitor(heard millions of times, by millions of people)

America! If you don't drive giant 12 cylinder SUVs you are some GREEN commie trying to destroy America

brukmann:Exactly. You're describing a normal POTUS vs. war criminals. There is no real comparison. Not that it's apples to oranges, that it's 1000:1 on the bullshiat scale. But thanks for insulting me by suggesting i'm a starry-eyed moron. Which, btw, i have found in exactly zero Obama supporters, as it is another right-wing fantasy.

If that's a normal President, we're an inherently evil nation. Most of the rest of what you just said is kind of garbled.

violentsalvation:Confabulat: Every American who supported that nonsense war and fell for their bullshiat, when it was plenty obvious even at the time there were major holes in their story, needs to apologize.

I farkin' stood out in the rain with an anti-war sign in traffic. I never do shiat like that but I knew bullshiat when I saw it.

What was your excuse?

That's the thing though, you didn't know, you were opposing Bush and Cheney for your own partisan reasons and / or you hate and oppose any war. The latter I respect much more than the former, but I respect them both. Intelligence organizations around the world were in agreement with our own, you weren't some genius out there in the rain protesting, your gut feeling was just.. well, right. I'll apologize to you, I'm sorry you got wet out there holding that sign accomplishing nothing.

That's exactly where you are wrong. I was listening to the only people who actually knew what they were talking about--the UN inspectors. Contrary to popular conception, they did know what was going on in Iraq. They had the records, they had the evidence, but the intelligence agencies were generally too paranoid to listen to reason.

The evidence pointed strongly to there being no WMD's or any reason to fear Iraq. But intelligence agencies are just as prone to ideological extremism as any other. And they were being ruled by the tinfoil hatters.

Corn_Fed:They had the records, they had the evidence, but the intelligence agencies were generally too paranoid to listen to reason.

The intelligence was being massaged to fit the Bush narrative. Our intelligence came mainly from Chalabi-connected defectors like Curveball who was a known liar. Even the Germans who picked him up thought his intel was bullshait.

Corn_Fed:hat's exactly where you are wrong. I was listening to the only people who actually knew what they were talking about--the UN inspectors. Contrary to popular conception, they did know what was going on in Iraq. They had the records, they had the evidence, but the intelligence agencies were generally too paranoid to listen to reason.

Agreed. They were 100% right in hindsight. Yet we went to war so they could finish their jobs.

Corn_Fed:That's exactly where you are wrong. I was listening to the only people who actually knew what they were talking about--the UN inspectors. Contrary to popular conception, they did know what was going on in Iraq. They had the records, they had the evidence, but the intelligence agencies were generally too paranoid to listen to reason.

The evidence pointed strongly to there being no WMD's or any reason to fear Iraq. But intelligence agencies are just as prone to ideological extremism as any other. And they were being ruled by the tinfoil hatters.

I exactly remember when Bush, et al., refused to let the UN inspectors continue even though they had found nothing. The inspectors pleaded for just a few more weeks, but Bush said "IMMINENT THREAT WE DON'T HAVE SIX WEEKS" and the right-wing echo chamber shouted them down as new world order commie left-wing one-government useless bureaucrats.

Of course, history has proven they were 100% correct, and the Bush administration was 100% wrong.

Even a lot of conservatives have come to hate Bush and Cheney. But the fact that this guy served his country, got horribly injured and will end up dying because of it means he's not a real American? It's morons like you that make Fark entertaining, whether you're trolling or serious. Either way, you come off looking really stupid and your party affiliation may have something to do with that.

Corn_Fed:violentsalvation: Confabulat: Every American who supported that nonsense war and fell for their bullshiat, when it was plenty obvious even at the time there were major holes in their story, needs to apologize.

I farkin' stood out in the rain with an anti-war sign in traffic. I never do shiat like that but I knew bullshiat when I saw it.

What was your excuse?

That's the thing though, you didn't know, you were opposing Bush and Cheney for your own partisan reasons and / or you hate and oppose any war. The latter I respect much more than the former, but I respect them both. Intelligence organizations around the world were in agreement with our own, you weren't some genius out there in the rain protesting, your gut feeling was just.. well, right. I'll apologize to you, I'm sorry you got wet out there holding that sign accomplishing nothing.

That's exactly where you are wrong. I was listening to the only people who actually knew what they were talking about--the UN inspectors. Contrary to popular conception, they did know what was going on in Iraq. They had the records, they had the evidence, but the intelligence agencies were generally too paranoid to listen to reason.

The evidence pointed strongly to there being no WMD's or any reason to fear Iraq. But intelligence agencies are just as prone to ideological extremism as any other. And they were being ruled by the tinfoil hatters.

SO when British Intelligence told us about the WMD's. Gee Syria just launched chemical weapons today. And when these fake WMD's where shipped to the US via canada for destruction in the middle of the night. That was all faked? Listen the intelligence may not have been 100% but it still worked. Anyway we put Saddam in there, WE needed to remove him

Even a lot of conservatives have come to hate Bush and Cheney. But the fact that this guy served his country, got horribly injured and will end up dying because of it means he's not a real American? It's morons like you that make Fark entertaining, whether you're trolling or serious. Either way, you come off looking really stupid and your party affiliation may have something to do with that.

Whether you take obvious sarcasm at face value, or think it's just trolling, you come off looking really stupid and your party affiliation may have something to do with that.

kombi:SO when British Intelligence told us about the WMD's. Gee Syria just launched chemical weapons today. And when these fake WMD's where shipped to the US via canada for destruction in the middle of the night. That was all faked? Listen the intelligence may not have been 100% but it still worked. Anyway we put Saddam in there, WE needed to remove him