Actually, you are correct Phillip, a Troy ounce is 17.554 drams, while a avoirdupois ounce is 16 drams... my mistake. Now it seems a avoirdupois ounce is 7000 grains too. I suppose someone out in the world has made a study and publish the story of weights and measure in a for more interesting then a reference table? Or am I mistaken?

Slava: There is the ideal "me". It is not the one I see in the mirror or who steps on the bathroom scales. To weigh the ideal "me" would take a lot of work. Do you advocate sticking to the nitty-gritty, actual "me"? That would be quite a relief.

There are me's and me's. (Sorry about that apostrophe -- I'm trying to keep the 'me' intact.)The Sumerian goddess Innana tricked Enki out of all the arts of Civilization, the ME. This poem is dated to 2000BC, and has a delightful cadence when read aloud:"O name of my power, O name of my power,To the bright Inanna, my daughter, I shall present . . .The arts of woodworking, metalworking, writing, toolmaking, leatherworking, building, basketweaving."Pure Inanna took them.These ME have a greater weight than any agoran!