Looks pretty good but I would get some taurine because m-sten gave me some serious lower back pumps and taurine @ 3g per day seemed to solve it for the most part. I didn't gain a ton of weight from it but my strength went through the roof.

Looks pretty good but I would get some taurine because m-sten gave me some serious lower back pumps and taurine @ 3g per day seemed to solve it for the most part. I didn't gain a ton of weight from it but my strength went through the roof.

So I'm about a week in, hitting every workout really hard and pushing to failure with every set. Does msten accelerate the recovery greatly? I'm not getting any soreness in the days preceeding my workouts at all. I'm getting huge pumps and everything it's just confusing me a little? Other than that I had the back pumps and the taurine did help, thanks for the advice on that! Had such a good night sleep that I didn't want to get out of bed the first 2 mornings, waking up is easier now. Love the hunger, makes taking down all the meals really easy! Did chest last night, put 20 extra lbs up with just as many reps as my previous week off cycle.

Well, yesterday was completion of week 1. So far the only sides have been the back pumps, some mild headaches during the first 3 days, and heartburn/indigestion, im taking 1.5g of taurine in the morning and a half hr pre workout and it doesnt bother me. Tums helps the heartburn. My appetite is kind of dragging and im having to force the food at times. Up 3 lbs, muscles are fuller all day long. I havent noticed a ton of energy during workouts, and my first 2 workouts i actually had very little drive during the workouts but i still gave it my all and fought through it.

It would seem that for most, the second week is when it really comes on strong so im stoaked to crank this into high gear.

Stick with it and get that food down. I know that it can be hard to eat on oral cycles sometimes but force it down and hit it hard and will be pleased in the end. Another thing I would start doing is taking a full 2g of the taurine before working out. That weight you added last week is your higher levels of glycogen stores in your muscle as well as some extra water. Next week you will start packing on the new muscle and thats when it really gets fun.

You could integrate the msten into your summer cycle and log it for us all? What does your summer cycle consist of?

already got a pretty full cycle planned.. will be starting in about 2 weeks time

check out my "pre cycle thread" in my signature

ill be making a new log for the actual cycle, including what i train each day (i should have time to detail the reps/weights/exercises)
hopefully i have time to give you guys a few days of my usual diet as well and let ya in on any changes
should be fun anyway

Well, my starting weight was 161 on the nose. I stepped on the scale mid day yesterday and came in at 173. Forgot to take my taurine before chest workout and my whole upper body was so pumped i could barely push up all my sets. Balls just started shrinking, libido is still decent though. No anger issues but i should prob be getting more sleep, im only getting like 6.5hrs like 3 days of the week. I was not in the absolute best shape starting this cycle but my flat bench was at 165 2x6 1x5 1x4 Just put up 185 with the same sets. Didnt do a preliminary body measurement but arms are up to 15". I was prob around 15% Bf, with a nice pouch of flab over my lower abs, im only hitting them once a week, riding a bike 6 miles once a week and running 1 mile twice a week, so minimal cardio - im eager to do a bf test as im almost certain it is lowered by a good amount.

Bottom line is i've never been a real big guy but i feel great. My confidence is up, i feel much fuller all around. I have before pics but im goign to wait to post them till i can put them up with an after, this is actually pretty amazing after just 1.75 weeks. If it keeps going I feel like my wife is going to start questioning whats going on... lol

I would run M-sten @ 30mg ED. In fact thats what Im running it at. I think the lack of results people are seeing from this awesome compound is from low dosages. I think this one really shines in the 30-40 mg range. With similar gains to SD with fewer sides. Check out my M-sten/trenazone lean bulk log.

I would run M-sten @ 30mg ED. In fact thats what Im running it at. I think the lack of results people are seeing from this awesome compound is from low dosages. I think this one really shines in the 30-40 mg range. With similar gains to SD with fewer sides. Check out my M-sten/trenazone lean bulk log.

Im seeing some pretty strong results in my opinion right now, going to ride this one out as is since this is my first cycle since BMF hardcore's M-test (M1T) like 6 years ago. Next set up i may stack more, we will see but i still have 2.25 weeks left. Since m-sten comes in 10mg caps would you do something like take 1mg in the morning, support after 4 hrs and then 20mg 4 hrs after support?

I really liked M-sten and got some really good strength gains at 20mg per day the only problem I had were the debilitating back pumps. I took taurine at 3g per day that seemed to help but not enough I would hate to see what 30-40mg would do to me.

Im seeing some pretty strong results in my opinion right now, going to ride this one out as is since this is my first cycle since BMF hardcore's M-test (M1T) like 6 years ago. Next set up i may stack more, we will see but i still have 2.25 weeks left. Since m-sten comes in 10mg caps would you do something like take 1mg in the morning, support after 4 hrs and then 20mg 4 hrs after support?

I'm currently taking 10mg 3x a day. morning dose with support and lunch and preworkout with hawthorn.