This is absolutely HILARIOUS!! isn’t Pat Haden part of the NCAA’s compliance committee and one of the front runners in making sure everyone plays by the rules? And wasn’t he the one that said the head coach is responsible for everything his assistants do? And the there’s “no excuse for ignorance”? Hollywood could not make this stuff up. And you SUCsters wonder why the v entire country laughs at your joke of a football program. Nice hire PH!!! LMFAO

gotroy22

If true Sarkiffian should resign with honor now.

LTEfan

Sarkisian seems like an honorable man who didn’t know.

gotroy22

Honorable? Scott Wolf reported years ago that Norm Chow felt betrayed by his protege Sarkiffian for his role in Chow’s forced ouster from USC after the glorious 2004 season.

LTEfan

you may be right…although Chow seems to know how to play victim

Goatboy Kiffin

USC was the victim of that low life move by SUckisian and Goatboy Kiffin

gotroy22

Remember how we crushed Oklahoma? We would have won 5 BCS titles in a row if Sark and Kiffin hadn’t helped run off Norm Chow.

Goatboy Kiffin

Snark is a two faced wimp … he knew what he was getting in this Tush creep.
See Snark !!!!

Sportsblab Jones

Clear lack of institutional control. Dock the University of Washington 30 scholarships over 3 years; bowl ban for 2 years; vacate all of Sarkisian’s wins.

gotroy22

And Haden should have Sarkiffian tender his resignation.

Trogan Fan

What wins?

But really, this SC football “program” just keeps getting better and better. Replace Kiffin with Sarknado, only to learn after full vetting that Sarknado is just as cheaty at Petey.

As the great Les Norton would say – And da fun don’t done!

Toejam For Life

For that to occur, Sarkiffen would have to stonewall the NCAA for five years, while writing books about the encounter…

HeySUCs

Even monkeys fall out of trees.

Joe Blow

If Sark did in fact know, he is ABSOLUTELY the right hire.

Joe Blow

BTW, if he really did know, he should be fired. BUT Coach O is NOT the answer, never was.

SaferInWestwood

Currently recruiting for SC while stll employed by WAS Lupoi, NO WAY!!

HeySUCs

Ah wonderful, ah wonderful.

stoplyin7722

Assistant should have stay at cal. . Money will do that. Big raise when he when to Wash. . Didn’t want his legs broken.

LTEfan

perhaps…or maybe he got to be one of the top recruiters in the nation before going to UW by using the brown bag method

Golden Trojan

If the LA Times article is all true, Lupoi is toast as a college coach. There is a lot of detail in the story. Sark has some explaining to do. Haden will take the open, cooperative approach with the NCAA.

HeySUCs

How does Sark look Haden in the eye?

SaferInWestwood

Well that depends what position he was in!?!?!?

rusoviet

Not as easy as you morons do at your annual canonization memorial service for ‘jonnie’

“Oh divine fraud that wast able to elude detection thanks to the 4th estate, NCAA and the mob we come before thee on bended knees as we worship you fraudulent con man – you truly were one….Oh come let us adore him….”

HeySUCs

Happy Holidays.

rusoviet

This all revolves around Davis – his account of who approached who what dates, where and what was handed out – again why didn’t Davis tell Lupoi to call Kaplan direct? Something is missing – you don’t get into this pattern overnight for a what? According to Davis he got nothing out of it – then why do it? It doesn’t make sense.

Trogan Fan

So, at this point the greatest staff in college football has who on it? No Tosh, no Klemm, no Coach O. Sarknadooooooo!

https://www.facebook.com/charles.bucket.3 Charlie Bucket

(Dragnet theme) iiiiiiis it true? Lupoi was just following orders??? This is a page right out of the Chetey Peteys play book!!!

If true, Pat Haden should also resign, he hired this troll on his “gut feeling”.

rusoviet

The whole story is strange – not one but numerous meetings by Lupoi with Davis – restaurant, campus, etc.. Lupoi noting that Davis has a relative that works for Kaplan (testing firm) happened to also be at a track meet where Davis and Lupoi discussed Basham (recruit’s) academic hurdles.

What is puzzling in the story is Davis’ involvement – he (Davis) claims Lupoi caimed he would only deal with Davis in securing help for Basham via Kaplan. Here’s a high school track coach accepting money (cash $3,000), deposits it and then writes a check for tutoring fees – if he gained nothing from this (true?) then why even accept the money in the first place? The fact that Lupoi stated he would only deal directly with Davis shows either the naivete of Davis or there is something still missing – something is missing here.

;kjb;pkjb;kjb

You are exactly right here! I have a good friend who played at Florida and won the Natty with Spurrier. He played Dline and was drafted as Jr, in the first round. I only say this because he was a major recruit coming out of high school. I love just listening to the recruiting stories he tells. I can tell you this, he said Aubrn and Alabama were by far the dirtiest according to him. But in every story he said the same thing. It’s always straight cash homie!!! There was no reason to put the money in the bank and write a check. This guy screwed the pooch on purpose. We just need to wait and find out why?

rusoviet

Amen – make a paper trail for deniability then why get into it in the first place? The more this runs out the deeper this is going to go i.e. Davis is the key here

Cheap seats

Did anyone (including Wolf) actually READ the LA Times article that Wolf linked?

“USC’s compliance office began investigating Lupoi last week after receiving a tip from someone who said Davis had been the middleman in a transaction between Lupoi and a recruit. The Times received a similar tip.”

No….of course, the trolls and Wolf glanced over something and ran with it.

Also, what is with this Davis guy? Sounds like he got screwed on a kickback deal.

Lajollaboy

If Steve knew anything about this situation while he was at UW, he needs to resign immediately. Otherwise, we need more information on the situation before passing judgement.

Henry Bibby

This would have been your story Wolfie but you were too busy stalking Lane Kiffin. It’s a good thing the LA Times hires real sports reporters. Scottie, take notes from Gary Klein. Start paying attention to the windshield of USC Football and not the rear-view mirror. Lane Kiffin is long gone, if you didn’t hear.

rusoviet

Well said – Klein is a far better reporter and journalist just a shame the old Herald beat writers are no longer around i.e. Wolf never worked for the H-E

HeySUCs

SUCUDub fans everywhere, please pray for Comerade. No friends, no job, no prospects, no roof overhead. He just sits daily in public library blogging his rants and raves in imaginary streams incoherent consciousness.

buryperry

Hank,

Why are you wasting your time sucking up to your faux SouthCentral “family” instead of reconciling with your *real* family?

No wonder you’ve been shunned by UCLA, $C and even your own son (no big loss, he’s a huge douchebag just like you).

What a lonely, pathetic loser you’ve become. It’s tragic.

FightON

HeySUCs/ThaiMex/UCLA Owns/Redonculous/Dominate you/mora56, is that you?

P.S.: Great picture! The only way UCLA wins half of their games is by targeting and taking out the star players. Did Mora teach you that?

Get used to it, CheatOn… you’ll be hearing the sweet sweet sounds of UCLA dominance for the foreseeable future, now that you can’t cheat your way to “glory.” Looks like Sarkiffin has already started you back down that road.

“When I think about SC, it’s just SC, we’re going to beat them like we should. That’s the way we’re approaching it — it’s just SC.” – J.R. Henderson

gotroy22

Is that the new rah rah excuse?

FightON

You’re just angry that I called you out for wanting Mora as a coach (lulz, really, do you understand football or are you just pretending?). You’re also mad that you haven’t been able to push one comment on this site that was informative and well thought out.

Mediocrity thy name is gotroy22. Try to reply to me with something worth my time, okay?

Toejam For Life

This is definitely a tad more severe than being a part of a March Madness office pool that millions take part in every year for money!

Tom Oday

Spin On!!! COLORADO???

Toejam For Life

He wasn’t paying coaches for recruits. He had no violations at Colorado. The violations all occurred under the following coaches.

gotroy22

You mean UW. Remember the fiasco with Barbara Hedges and the NCAA losing in court to Skippy?

Toejam For Life

But, would an assistant just go off and do this on his own? Without Sarkiffen’s knowledge? Or, is this standard operating procedure learned from his mentor? Hmmmm….

Who knows what the truth may be, but I’m just saying that maybe this guy is just not that bright.

HeySUCs

Impressive. In Comerade land that’s 1 + 1 = 3.

HeySUCs

#4 – Pay no attention to Comerade.

WEB_Dupree

If this story is true, it seems hard to believe that Sarkisian wouldn’t have known anything about what Lupoi was doing. Where did Lupoi get that money? If Lupoi was operating a slush fund with money from UW fans/alums, how could Sark possibly know nothing about it? Even if Sark wasn’t the guy handling the funds, it seems like he would at least have had to give it his blessing and then turn a blind eye to it.

https://www.facebook.com/charles.bucket.3 Charlie Bucket

as the Deep Throat said to Bob Woodward: follow the money!!!

SCFTBL1

It’s time for Mike Rae’s caddy to resign or be fired.

https://www.facebook.com/charles.bucket.3 Charlie Bucket

absolutely freeaking AMAZING!!! even during the boring pre-bowl lul, the trOXans find a way to kick themselves in the crotch!!!

but will Lupoi take the fall for Sarkdasian, like McNair did for Petey???

my personal Prediction: Paaaaaaaaaaain!!!

jetman624

Wooooow. Just woooooow. Man o man does Haden have egg on his face after this one.

Well I guess it is safe to say that Lupoi isn’t coming to LA. And I guess we know why he hadn’t yet come… Sark obviously knew something about this…

FightON

USC received a tip while vetting Lupoi. Scott, are you saying that when hiring a new coach a university should vet every single thing the programs and assistants did? Really? How would they go about it beyond the usual measures?

gotroy22

That would be a great idea after Pete hired the dog torturer who ended up getting us on probation.

Toejam For Life

Now, it makes sense reading the whole article. Sarkiffen was the one who brought the brown paper bag with Tosh’s “agenda” in it and left at the booth for him! Brown Paper Bag and Coffee Cup On!

rusoviet

Rose Gilbert’s memorial seance is scheduled to be held at Hillside Mortuary – there’ll be the usual ‘de rigeur’ 21 police special salute for the squeeze of the ganef slug Sam the gum out man…replicas of sam laughing at jonnie will be sold to mourners with the proceeds going to the maintenance of jd morgan’s gravesite

https://www.facebook.com/charles.bucket.3 Charlie Bucket

c’mon ta@@ette, GET OVER IT!!!

we took our slap on the wrist like MEN!!!

what are you still crying about??

those Nattys are the ALL TIME greatest team achievement of ALL TIMES!!!

and if you stop 100 people in downtown LA, maybe one will know who papa G was, but 99 will know Wooden is the all time greatest and may yet be canonized as a saint!!!

All this over a 3* player. If this is true Lupoi doesn’t sound too bright. A guy who admitted he instructed his players to fake injuries, left Cal for UW two weeks before signing day, and who knows what he gave Shaq Thompson to go with him. If this didn’t send up red flags in the hiring of Sarkisian…Haden should start using his brain rather than his gut.

rusoviet

Lupoi was the same that Shaw called out after Sark ragged n Stanford faking injuries? Uh oh!

FightON

What you say would be true if not for the fact that coaches with checkered pasts are hired all of the time. Every school has one. You may not like it, but welcome to football.

Still, if true, USC obviously shouldn’t hire him and UW would be wise to fire him.

rusoviet

True so true! Those two clowns under Dorrell over near Crenshaw HS ring a bell bel-airians?

FightON

The trolls got pissy yesterday when I mentioned Neuheisel’s problems with compliance. They don’t deal with hypocrisy (or truth) very well. So sad.

HeySUCs

Lose On, you are a walking, flashing digital billboard of Hypocrisy.

FightON

Yawn. Someone ran out of material. Hey, have you sought out therapy yet? There are services out there that help with anger issues! Don’t be a victim anymore!

HeySUCs

Lose On you’re using my yawn bit. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery – thanks. And yes, I’m a victim of your sub-Mendoza line intellect.

rusoviet

Just ask TJ Simers sometime why he was so ‘in love’ with ‘woodie’ – never a bad word about the woodster from TJ. He was TJ’s ‘step daddy’

Then again TJ’s in his own ‘siberia’ – the OC Register – whose going to pay to read that rag?

ProbationU

And yet Neuheisel was awarded over $1 million from UW for unlawful termination after receiving bad advice from AD Barbara Hedges…..originally from SC. The only thing Neuheisel was guilty of at UCLA was being a bad coach.

FightON

His problems with compliance weren’t from UCLA. They were from before but UCLA still hired him.

Neuheisel never said he did not violate rules. He did. However, the NCAA botched the investigation (like they usually do) which led to his dismissal. However, he still broke their rules on at least two occasions and made other questionable (but not illegal) moves that came to light. Still, because he could prove that the investigation was botched, he could argue that the basis of his termination was wrongful (I’m looking right now, I do not see them say it was unlawful).

ProbationU

If I remember correctly it was settled out of court…but I could be wrong as I don’t really care, The matter at UW with Slick Rick was about betting in an NCAA March Madness pool and Hedges advised him that it was okay and they later terminated him over that violation.

The questions regarding Lupoi are a completely different set of circumstances involving direct payments that benefitted a potential recruit. Horse of a different color. I would imagine that Haden will stay a country mile away from him.

rusoviet

Mind explaining what went on with his recruiting tactics at both WA and CO?

BTW I thought someone so focused on ‘female’ athletes would never stoop to mocking a female AD – Hedges was a disaster at both WA and AZ St.. I mean she hired slick Rick right?

ProbationU

Comrade…I think you are confusing me with someone else about female athletes…and not mocking Hedges because she is female but because she received her compliance education at USC.

Hiring Slick Rick was stupid on many levels…but he did follow the rules at UCLA…just couldn’t coach

HeySUCs

Comerade, it’s not UCLA coaches the NCAA is investigating, It’s SUCUDUbs new HC and the perp, Sark’s former UDub employee (and until yesterday someone Sark wanted on SUCUDub’s staff). UCLA doesn’t need to cheat to compete.

Toejam For Life

Since Sark is responsible, it could result is a loss of 21 scholarships over the next 3 years! Idaho and Cal State Long Beach may be your new rivals!

rusoviet

Real question is the timing of the disclosure – two weeks ago tomorrow.

Who dropped the dime and why?

Paul Forkner

Exactly. The high school coach told the Seattle Times he didn’t come forward, but responded honestly when asked by the LA Times. Tosh certainly wouldn’t say anything, and why would the recruit spill the beans? Someone else knew.

Fred Sampson

No one will really knows , coaches really don’t throw each other under the bus unless they want to commit career suicide . But if Steve Sarkision had anything to do with it USC better find out NOW !!!

Joe H

Against the rules? And thus stupid? Yes. But, what is wrong with paying for tutoring for a high school kid, even to get him eligible to attend UW? SC still can’t hire him, but as I read the terrific LA Times article (with actual information), the whole time I thinking wait a minute, every penny went straight to test prep or tutoring to help the kid no matter what happens on the football field. This should be allowed in the open instead of through coffee cups filled with cash. The system is screwed up.

That said, I am sure this is the least of the coach’s violations.

rusoviet

Joe well said and yeah I agree a well vetted exhaustive study by Klen – attaboy also for ‘where’s the harm?’ Tutoring? Sure beats what Gilbert gave wooden’s boys – cars, apartments, services for their pregnant girl friends, cash -

LTEfan

Well, yes, but maybe let the NCAA pay for the tutoring, and then the kid is free to choose a school without being influenced by a particular school paying for it.

anno nimus

Lupoi will not go down without taking Sarkisian down with him, you can bet USC is paying hush money right now, as we speak.

Paul Forkner

I have a hard time believing SC is paying hush money – why take the risk? Things come out eventually.

HeySUCs

Yes they did.

FightON

You know what’s kind of weird: for most students, they must apply to colleges and the colleges pick and choose which students they want. Excellent records in academics, athletics, or other various forms of service allow other kids to be recruited in various ways – but, for the most part, students receive offers from universities and are courted for months until they choose where they will go. It is the student that decides where they will ultimately end up.

The NFL is very different: it is the sole decision is up to the teams. Sure, I suppose a player could send out feelers to a team and make comments to the media about where he wants to go or doesn’t want to go (the former of which would be looked down upon). At the end of the day, the team decides who they want. The draft system ensures that talent is spread around (sort of) equally. I suppose one could collude with other teams, but it would be much more complicated to “buy” a player than it is at the college level.

Even an agent system at the college level would be rife with abuse – both from the agent paying the prospect to schools paying the agent for access.

Whenever you have wide eyed high school kids being whisked away on visits to places they likely have never been with coaches making grand promises – you are going to have problems. A draft system would be undesirable and an agent system would still have abuse. I’m not defending anything Lupoi may have done (or any other coach at any other university who has done similar things), but I’m saying the NCAA desperately needs a rethink on some of these issues or they need to stop being surprised when it happens (and perhaps some more equitable punishment where discretion is not the sole indicator of what the levy will be).

Just food for thought.

FightON

Whoa. TL;DR: the NCAA is lame.

HeySUCs

Your food is inedible, and provokes repeated gagging and vomiting.

HeySUCs

Here’s a question #6 once asked the village computer: Why? and the computer crashed. I like to hear your pedantic take on: Why? I know you won’t crash, because you know everything and you want everybody to know just how intelligent you are. So crank up the wind machine Lose On.

HeySUCs

One last thing Lose On: I’ve copied your “Just food for thought,” and faxed it to the world. And don’t worry your authorship is prominently attributed. Just think Lose On, the fame and fortune you’ve always desired.

FightON

Aw. Let me pwn you again: I never said anything I wrote was genius level – in fact, even people with the most basic of cognitive functions think about what I wrote. I simply pointed out a simple truth: that the way the system is structured allows these sorts of things to happen. I also pointed out how other systems prevent these same sorts of events from occurring by having other structures where human behavior is has the same incentives, but the complexities of the structure tend to prevent the behavior.

I’m sorry that facts are hard. I’m also sorry that you would rather spend hours trolling on a blog with incoherent ramblings than say intelligent things that people deem worthy of reading. See, it’s far easier for you to engage in ad hominem attacks and irrelevant diatribes than actually face the music – probably because you’re tone deaf or you just cannot accept the tune.

But really, I’m sort of worried. You’re even more incoherent today than other days. Are you sad that you feel lonely and insignificant which is only heightened by the holiday spirit where most people are going home to be with loved ones? You mad at my therapist comment? Or are you mad that you simply cannot come up with basic thoughts that anyone else can? Either way, so sad.

But, heyy! Another UCLA troll who makes my existence the center of their world. Thank youu.

Fred Sampson

I doubt very seriously if Tosh Lupoi worked by himself on this one . It just doesn’t make any sense for him to make a risky decision like that….for who ? And for what ?

Isaiahdolan

Time to call Saban…

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