Clarets put season tickets back on sale - with a rise of up to 50 per cent

BURNLEY will put season tickets back on sale this morning – with a rise in price of up to 50 per cent for those who missed the early bird deadline.

The Clarets initially froze prices when they put season tickets on sale in late February, when it remained uncertain which division they would be playing during the 2014/15 campaign.

Between 12,500 and 13,000 supporters are understood to have already snapped up season tickets prior to the expiry of the early bird deadline on March 31.

Season tickets in the Bob Lord Stand and the centre of the James Hargreaves Stand upper tier now cost £685 – up from £455 for renewals before the early bird deadline and £485 for new season ticket holders.

The cheapest adult tickets are in the Jimmy McIlroy lower tier, available at £499 – up from £329 before the deadline.

Prices, however, include a £100 retainer – redeemable against a season ticket for the 2015/16 season.

Senior citizen prices range from between £460 and £385, while under 22 tickets cost between £460 and £225.

Under 18 prices are between £329 and £220, while under 12 tickets in the Jimmy McIlroy Stand upper tier cost £210.

The club are making two direct debit options available via Zebra Finance, for either three or six months.

The Clarets have also announced that they will move the players’ tunnel at Turf Moor next season after deciding against opening a section of the David Fishwick Stand to home supporters.

During the Clarets’ previous season in the Premier League the club divided the David Fishwick Stand between home and away fans, but they have opted to keep it exclusively for visiting supporters next season.

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In a statement, the club said of the decision: “After much debate, this stand will now be used exclusively for visiting supporters next season.

“The board scrutinised the numbers and feel this would dissipate the home support.”

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As a result, the club have decided to relocate the tunnel from the centre of the David Fishwick Stand to the corner of the stadium, between the away end and the James Hargreaves Stand meaning the teams now emerge in front of home supporters.

The club are also extending the press area to meet Premier League regulations and have offered alternative seating to season ticket holders in the three rows in front of the current media facility.

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Clarets put season tickets back on sale - with a rise of up to 50 per cent

razwoods78 says...10:09am Tue 13 May 14

FROM A ROVERS FAN - THESE ARE SCANDALOUS PRICES. THAT IS NOT A DIG AT THE GROUND OR STANDARD OF FOOTBALL BY ANY MEANS EITHER. BUT SURELY THE OWNERS SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BURNLEY AND BLACKBURN (AND MANY NORTH WEST TOWNS) ARE ECONOMICALLY DEPRIVED AREAS??? UNEMPLOYMENT IS HIGH AND INCOMES ARE LOW. ALMOST £700 FOR THE DEAREST SEAT IS RIDICULOUS. MY SEAT AT ROVERS LAST SEASON WAS £225 - AND I KNOW YOU ARE NOW IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE, BUT SURELY, AS LOYAL FANS YOU CANNOT BE HAPPY WITH THESE INCREASES? ...FOOTBALL IS NO LONGER A WORKING CLASS SPORT FOR WORKING CLASS FANS. ON ANOTHER NOTE - HATE TO SAY IT BUT I GENUINELY THINK YOU WILL STAY UP - AND 'DO A HULL' AND SUPRISE A FEW TEAMS NEXT SEASON!

FROM A ROVERS FAN - THESE ARE SCANDALOUS PRICES. THAT IS NOT A DIG AT THE GROUND OR STANDARD OF FOOTBALL BY ANY MEANS EITHER. BUT SURELY THE OWNERS SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BURNLEY AND BLACKBURN (AND MANY NORTH WEST TOWNS) ARE ECONOMICALLY DEPRIVED AREAS??? UNEMPLOYMENT IS HIGH AND INCOMES ARE LOW. ALMOST £700 FOR THE DEAREST SEAT IS RIDICULOUS. MY SEAT AT ROVERS LAST SEASON WAS £225 - AND I KNOW YOU ARE NOW IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE, BUT SURELY, AS LOYAL FANS YOU CANNOT BE HAPPY WITH THESE INCREASES? ...FOOTBALL IS NO LONGER A WORKING CLASS SPORT FOR WORKING CLASS FANS.
ON ANOTHER NOTE - HATE TO SAY IT BUT I GENUINELY THINK YOU WILL STAY UP - AND 'DO A HULL' AND SUPRISE A FEW TEAMS NEXT SEASON!razwoods78

FROM A ROVERS FAN - THESE ARE SCANDALOUS PRICES. THAT IS NOT A DIG AT THE GROUND OR STANDARD OF FOOTBALL BY ANY MEANS EITHER. BUT SURELY THE OWNERS SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BURNLEY AND BLACKBURN (AND MANY NORTH WEST TOWNS) ARE ECONOMICALLY DEPRIVED AREAS??? UNEMPLOYMENT IS HIGH AND INCOMES ARE LOW. ALMOST £700 FOR THE DEAREST SEAT IS RIDICULOUS. MY SEAT AT ROVERS LAST SEASON WAS £225 - AND I KNOW YOU ARE NOW IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE, BUT SURELY, AS LOYAL FANS YOU CANNOT BE HAPPY WITH THESE INCREASES? ...FOOTBALL IS NO LONGER A WORKING CLASS SPORT FOR WORKING CLASS FANS. ON ANOTHER NOTE - HATE TO SAY IT BUT I GENUINELY THINK YOU WILL STAY UP - AND 'DO A HULL' AND SUPRISE A FEW TEAMS NEXT SEASON!

Score: 42

burnleyfan4life says...10:36am Tue 13 May 14

Its a disgrace!!! I am disgusted - I got my 2 season tickets before the deadline but this is not the point - It will impact on the atmosphere - the fans feel ripped off and its now far from certain that we will have a full house every game - Its the retainer that sticks in the throat - And I have doubts over the legality!! Some may say - you should have bought pre season like I did and that its only the glory hunters that will miss out - But just think for next year - the prices are ridiculously high for the area - I will not renew if I am being asked to pay a retainer next year purely on principle!!!! Last Year I paid £485 for 23 games- now its £685 for 19 games!!!! - thats a 70% rise per game!!!!! plus with ll the premier leagues funny start times I may not be able to attend them all. A PR disaster that needs rethinking - BFC remove that retainer then its not as bad!!! I have a friend who is awaiting papers to emigrate to Australia - what good is a retainer to him?

Its a disgrace!!! I am disgusted - I got my 2 season tickets before the deadline but this is not the point - It will impact on the atmosphere - the fans feel ripped off and its now far from certain that we will have a full house every game - Its the retainer that sticks in the throat - And I have doubts over the legality!!
Some may say - you should have bought pre season like I did and that its only the glory hunters that will miss out - But just think for next year - the prices are ridiculously high for the area - I will not renew if I am being asked to pay a retainer next year purely on principle!!!!
Last Year I paid £485 for 23 games- now its £685 for 19 games!!!! - thats a 70% rise per game!!!!! plus with ll the premier leagues funny start times I may not be able to attend them all.
A PR disaster that needs rethinking - BFC remove that retainer then its not as bad!!!
I have a friend who is awaiting papers to emigrate to Australia - what good is a retainer to him?burnleyfan4life

Its a disgrace!!! I am disgusted - I got my 2 season tickets before the deadline but this is not the point - It will impact on the atmosphere - the fans feel ripped off and its now far from certain that we will have a full house every game - Its the retainer that sticks in the throat - And I have doubts over the legality!! Some may say - you should have bought pre season like I did and that its only the glory hunters that will miss out - But just think for next year - the prices are ridiculously high for the area - I will not renew if I am being asked to pay a retainer next year purely on principle!!!! Last Year I paid £485 for 23 games- now its £685 for 19 games!!!! - thats a 70% rise per game!!!!! plus with ll the premier leagues funny start times I may not be able to attend them all. A PR disaster that needs rethinking - BFC remove that retainer then its not as bad!!! I have a friend who is awaiting papers to emigrate to Australia - what good is a retainer to him?

Score: 21

AnotherPounding4Burnley says...10:37am Tue 13 May 14

13,000 have snapped up early bird season tickets ensuring an increase on last seasons pathetic average attendance in our best season in forty years. With that and the 4k for away support means we should be getting at least 17k at our well run club. I must admit if my season ticket cost 700 i'd want a seat with no splinters and a couple of extra layers of yacht varnish.

13,000 have snapped up early bird season tickets ensuring an increase on last seasons pathetic average attendance in our best season in forty years. With that and the 4k for away support means we should be getting at least 17k at our well run club. I must admit if my season ticket cost 700 i'd want a seat with no splinters and a couple of extra layers of yacht varnish.AnotherPounding4Burnley

13,000 have snapped up early bird season tickets ensuring an increase on last seasons pathetic average attendance in our best season in forty years. With that and the 4k for away support means we should be getting at least 17k at our well run club. I must admit if my season ticket cost 700 i'd want a seat with no splinters and a couple of extra layers of yacht varnish.

Score: 5

jack01 says...10:38am Tue 13 May 14

In terms of moving the tunnel to the corner I fail to see what benefit this will bring. Players will be emerging from the corner BETWEEN home fans and away fans, and unless they are moving the changing rooms then players and officials will still be spending their time beneath the away supporters in the cricket field stand. In terms of the pricing, surely those who are regular season ticket holders and who stick with the club regardless of league status (the 8,000 who had season tickets at the start of last season) will nearly all have bought their tickets under the 'Early Bird' pricing. Those who are going to be priced out by these eye-watering prices are predominantly going to be the Johnny-come-latelies who didn't have tickets last season and have been waiting for promotion to be confirmed before deciding to buy a season ticket for next year. As far as I am concerned those type of supporters are those who deserve to be paying a premium, albeit maybe not such a price. Never mind, at least Burnley FC is run by supporters of the club, who understand the fans and the area. What is it they say, 'Your Town, Your Club'? Yes, but you have to pay £700 in one of the most deprived towns in the country for the privilege of doing it. Why not use the Premier League windfall to subsidise a reduction and get sell out crowds every week? Because under these prices there will be plenty of empty seats every week. As a Rovers supporter who has suffered at the hands of foreign ownership, I just hope for another affordable season at £225 or so for 23 games. Maybe local ownership isn't all its cracked up to be.

In terms of moving the tunnel to the corner I fail to see what benefit this will bring. Players will be emerging from the corner BETWEEN home fans and away fans, and unless they are moving the changing rooms then players and officials will still be spending their time beneath the away supporters in the cricket field stand.
In terms of the pricing, surely those who are regular season ticket holders and who stick with the club regardless of league status (the 8,000 who had season tickets at the start of last season) will nearly all have bought their tickets under the 'Early Bird' pricing. Those who are going to be priced out by these eye-watering prices are predominantly going to be the Johnny-come-latelies who didn't have tickets last season and have been waiting for promotion to be confirmed before deciding to buy a season ticket for next year. As far as I am concerned those type of supporters are those who deserve to be paying a premium, albeit maybe not such a price.
Never mind, at least Burnley FC is run by supporters of the club, who understand the fans and the area. What is it they say, 'Your Town, Your Club'? Yes, but you have to pay £700 in one of the most deprived towns in the country for the privilege of doing it. Why not use the Premier League windfall to subsidise a reduction and get sell out crowds every week? Because under these prices there will be plenty of empty seats every week.
As a Rovers supporter who has suffered at the hands of foreign ownership, I just hope for another affordable season at £225 or so for 23 games. Maybe local ownership isn't all its cracked up to be.jack01

In terms of moving the tunnel to the corner I fail to see what benefit this will bring. Players will be emerging from the corner BETWEEN home fans and away fans, and unless they are moving the changing rooms then players and officials will still be spending their time beneath the away supporters in the cricket field stand. In terms of the pricing, surely those who are regular season ticket holders and who stick with the club regardless of league status (the 8,000 who had season tickets at the start of last season) will nearly all have bought their tickets under the 'Early Bird' pricing. Those who are going to be priced out by these eye-watering prices are predominantly going to be the Johnny-come-latelies who didn't have tickets last season and have been waiting for promotion to be confirmed before deciding to buy a season ticket for next year. As far as I am concerned those type of supporters are those who deserve to be paying a premium, albeit maybe not such a price. Never mind, at least Burnley FC is run by supporters of the club, who understand the fans and the area. What is it they say, 'Your Town, Your Club'? Yes, but you have to pay £700 in one of the most deprived towns in the country for the privilege of doing it. Why not use the Premier League windfall to subsidise a reduction and get sell out crowds every week? Because under these prices there will be plenty of empty seats every week. As a Rovers supporter who has suffered at the hands of foreign ownership, I just hope for another affordable season at £225 or so for 23 games. Maybe local ownership isn't all its cracked up to be.

Score: 19

RobH2O says...10:40am Tue 13 May 14

Sadly, the prices are in line with other clubs in the lower two quartiles of the Premiership. The more you discount tickets, the less money you have comparatively with those teams you are competing with. There is only so much improvement you can make in the technique and application of current players. You will also have to inject new blood that can compete at this level. The type of player you are competing for is also on the direct radar of other similar clubs. They too have Premiership levels of funding. If you don't have gate revenue at the same level as your competitors, then you denude what you are able to pay. Its a sad fact of life. Regarding the tunnel relocation; Coyle and Fletcher beseeched the board to put fans in the Cricket Field Stand for a very good reason. The home changing rooms resounded thumpingly to the noise of away fans sitting above them. It felt like an away game to them. With the home fans sat directly above them, it felt like a brand new home experience. And as for running out in front of their own fans, that's total twaddle. They currently run out with the away fans behind them and the home fans 20 yards to their left. Now they will run out with away fans 10 years to their right and home fans 10 years to their left. They've lost the potential impact of the Coyle idea and got no new benefit to replace that loss. Farcical.

Sadly, the prices are in line with other clubs in the lower two quartiles of the Premiership. The more you discount tickets, the less money you have comparatively with those teams you are competing with. There is only so much improvement you can make in the technique and application of current players. You will also have to inject new blood that can compete at this level.
The type of player you are competing for is also on the direct radar of other similar clubs. They too have Premiership levels of funding. If you don't have gate revenue at the same level as your competitors, then you denude what you are able to pay. Its a sad fact of life.
Regarding the tunnel relocation; Coyle and Fletcher beseeched the board to put fans in the Cricket Field Stand for a very good reason. The home changing rooms resounded thumpingly to the noise of away fans sitting above them. It felt like an away game to them. With the home fans sat directly above them, it felt like a brand new home experience.
And as for running out in front of their own fans, that's total twaddle. They currently run out with the away fans behind them and the home fans 20 yards to their left. Now they will run out with away fans 10 years to their right and home fans 10 years to their left.
They've lost the potential impact of the Coyle idea and got no new benefit to replace that loss.
Farcical.RobH2O

Sadly, the prices are in line with other clubs in the lower two quartiles of the Premiership. The more you discount tickets, the less money you have comparatively with those teams you are competing with. There is only so much improvement you can make in the technique and application of current players. You will also have to inject new blood that can compete at this level. The type of player you are competing for is also on the direct radar of other similar clubs. They too have Premiership levels of funding. If you don't have gate revenue at the same level as your competitors, then you denude what you are able to pay. Its a sad fact of life. Regarding the tunnel relocation; Coyle and Fletcher beseeched the board to put fans in the Cricket Field Stand for a very good reason. The home changing rooms resounded thumpingly to the noise of away fans sitting above them. It felt like an away game to them. With the home fans sat directly above them, it felt like a brand new home experience. And as for running out in front of their own fans, that's total twaddle. They currently run out with the away fans behind them and the home fans 20 yards to their left. Now they will run out with away fans 10 years to their right and home fans 10 years to their left. They've lost the potential impact of the Coyle idea and got no new benefit to replace that loss. Farcical.

Score: 2

AnotherPounding4Burnley says...11:05am Tue 13 May 14

RobH2O wrote…

Sadly, the prices are in line with other clubs in the lower two quartiles of the Premiership. The more you discount tickets, the less money you have comparatively with those teams you are competing with. There is only so much improvement you can make in the technique and application of current players. You will also have to inject new blood that can compete at this level. The type of player you are competing for is also on the direct radar of other similar clubs. They too have Premiership levels of funding. If you don't have gate revenue at the same level as your competitors, then you denude what you are able to pay. Its a sad fact of life. Regarding the tunnel relocation; Coyle and Fletcher beseeched the board to put fans in the Cricket Field Stand for a very good reason. The home changing rooms resounded thumpingly to the noise of away fans sitting above them. It felt like an away game to them. With the home fans sat directly above them, it felt like a brand new home experience. And as for running out in front of their own fans, that's total twaddle. They currently run out with the away fans behind them and the home fans 20 yards to their left. Now they will run out with away fans 10 years to their right and home fans 10 years to their left. They've lost the potential impact of the Coyle idea and got no new benefit to replace that loss. Farcical.

Agreed but our facilities are in line with the lower quarters of the vauxhall conference so prices should reflect this

[quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote:
Sadly, the prices are in line with other clubs in the lower two quartiles of the Premiership. The more you discount tickets, the less money you have comparatively with those teams you are competing with. There is only so much improvement you can make in the technique and application of current players. You will also have to inject new blood that can compete at this level.
The type of player you are competing for is also on the direct radar of other similar clubs. They too have Premiership levels of funding. If you don't have gate revenue at the same level as your competitors, then you denude what you are able to pay. Its a sad fact of life.
Regarding the tunnel relocation; Coyle and Fletcher beseeched the board to put fans in the Cricket Field Stand for a very good reason. The home changing rooms resounded thumpingly to the noise of away fans sitting above them. It felt like an away game to them. With the home fans sat directly above them, it felt like a brand new home experience.
And as for running out in front of their own fans, that's total twaddle. They currently run out with the away fans behind them and the home fans 20 yards to their left. Now they will run out with away fans 10 years to their right and home fans 10 years to their left.
They've lost the potential impact of the Coyle idea and got no new benefit to replace that loss.
Farcical.[/p][/quote]Agreed but our facilities are in line with the lower quarters of the vauxhall conference so prices should reflect thisAnotherPounding4Burnley

RobH2O wrote…

Sadly, the prices are in line with other clubs in the lower two quartiles of the Premiership. The more you discount tickets, the less money you have comparatively with those teams you are competing with. There is only so much improvement you can make in the technique and application of current players. You will also have to inject new blood that can compete at this level. The type of player you are competing for is also on the direct radar of other similar clubs. They too have Premiership levels of funding. If you don't have gate revenue at the same level as your competitors, then you denude what you are able to pay. Its a sad fact of life. Regarding the tunnel relocation; Coyle and Fletcher beseeched the board to put fans in the Cricket Field Stand for a very good reason. The home changing rooms resounded thumpingly to the noise of away fans sitting above them. It felt like an away game to them. With the home fans sat directly above them, it felt like a brand new home experience. And as for running out in front of their own fans, that's total twaddle. They currently run out with the away fans behind them and the home fans 20 yards to their left. Now they will run out with away fans 10 years to their right and home fans 10 years to their left. They've lost the potential impact of the Coyle idea and got no new benefit to replace that loss. Farcical.

Agreed but our facilities are in line with the lower quarters of the vauxhall conference so prices should reflect this

Score: 10

MikeMada says...11:46am Tue 13 May 14

The amount of this increase above reasonable is minuscule compared with the £60M PER SEASON the club gains. Balance that with the huge lack of trust they have saddled themselves with and you have to wonder at the intellect of the board throughout. Dreadful decisions already being made, simply dreadful.

The amount of this increase above reasonable is minuscule compared with the £60M PER SEASON the club gains.
Balance that with the huge lack of trust they have saddled themselves with and you have to wonder at the intellect of the board throughout.
Dreadful decisions already being made, simply dreadful.MikeMada

The amount of this increase above reasonable is minuscule compared with the £60M PER SEASON the club gains. Balance that with the huge lack of trust they have saddled themselves with and you have to wonder at the intellect of the board throughout. Dreadful decisions already being made, simply dreadful.

Score: 11

Rovers.1875 says...11:56am Tue 13 May 14

I can't believe the prices for the tickets, that is just stupid?! I mean, Burnley have suffered low gates, as have we, so when the attraction of PL football comes along, is this not the time to give an attractive season ticket offer to the people of Burnley? Maybe attract new part time supporters into getting a ticket to see you play at the top level? This is not future planning for the club, it's a one season smash and grab price at the expense of the supporters, surely if they managed to attract big gates this season with a cheap season ticket offer, come next season where you may (or may not of course) end up back in the championship, it would be good to have attracted a bigger fan base? In any case, I can't believe your season ticket prices are double ours....

I can't believe the prices for the tickets, that is just stupid?! I mean, Burnley have suffered low gates, as have we, so when the attraction of PL football comes along, is this not the time to give an attractive season ticket offer to the people of Burnley? Maybe attract new part time supporters into getting a ticket to see you play at the top level? This is not future planning for the club, it's a one season smash and grab price at the expense of the supporters, surely if they managed to attract big gates this season with a cheap season ticket offer, come next season where you may (or may not of course) end up back in the championship, it would be good to have attracted a bigger fan base?
In any case, I can't believe your season ticket prices are double ours....Rovers.1875

I can't believe the prices for the tickets, that is just stupid?! I mean, Burnley have suffered low gates, as have we, so when the attraction of PL football comes along, is this not the time to give an attractive season ticket offer to the people of Burnley? Maybe attract new part time supporters into getting a ticket to see you play at the top level? This is not future planning for the club, it's a one season smash and grab price at the expense of the supporters, surely if they managed to attract big gates this season with a cheap season ticket offer, come next season where you may (or may not of course) end up back in the championship, it would be good to have attracted a bigger fan base? In any case, I can't believe your season ticket prices are double ours....

Score: 18

barlickmafia says...12:17pm Tue 13 May 14

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in.
I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!!
Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!!
The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week.
The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season.
Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise.
These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.barlickmafia

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

Score: -35

RobH2O says...12:28pm Tue 13 May 14

MikeMada wrote…

The amount of this increase above reasonable is minuscule compared with the £60M PER SEASON the club gains. Balance that with the huge lack of trust they have saddled themselves with and you have to wonder at the intellect of the board throughout. Dreadful decisions already being made, simply dreadful.

£119.66M.

[quote][p][bold]MikeMada[/bold] wrote:
The amount of this increase above reasonable is minuscule compared with the £60M PER SEASON the club gains.
Balance that with the huge lack of trust they have saddled themselves with and you have to wonder at the intellect of the board throughout.
Dreadful decisions already being made, simply dreadful.[/p][/quote]£119.66M.RobH2O

MikeMada wrote…

The amount of this increase above reasonable is minuscule compared with the £60M PER SEASON the club gains. Balance that with the huge lack of trust they have saddled themselves with and you have to wonder at the intellect of the board throughout. Dreadful decisions already being made, simply dreadful.

£119.66M.

Score: 0

slants says...12:38pm Tue 13 May 14

barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.

barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.slants

barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.

Score: -1

RobH2O says...12:40pm Tue 13 May 14

slants wrote…

barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.

Do you speak in the manner that you write. If you do you live on your own.

[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.[/p][/quote]Do you speak in the manner that you write. If you do you live on your own.RobH2O

slants wrote…

barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.

Do you speak in the manner that you write. If you do you live on your own.

Score: 3

houseclaret says...12:51pm Tue 13 May 14

barlickmafia wrote…

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

These "glory hunters" you speak of are at every club in the world and are to be expected, just like the ones who leave after a relegation, it's the way of the world. An increase was to be expected but to ask a team like Burnley to pay more than a team who has just won the title and is crammed with international stars is a bit much. The season ticket prices are not my concern anyway but the cynical way they are trying to force people into buying them by reducing the availability of matchday tickets (the non-opening of the DF to home fans). I do not have a season ticket and haven't had for years (simply can't afford one and even then I cannot attend all matches anyway) but non-season ticket holders are going to be lucky to get to see a game at all if we have the kind of uptake on season tickets that we had last time in the prem. I was celebrating with everyone else when we got promoted but what use is that going to be to people like me who may miss out on games because of "supply and demand". I would sooner watch championship football than no football at all. The board need to stop jumping on the cash cow that is the Premier League and think about the fans. This is very short-termist. You are very fortunate to have the ability to afford your season ticket and have the time (presumably) to attend all games, but not all supporters are "glory hunters" just because they don't have one.

[quote][p][bold]barlickmafia[/bold] wrote:
This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in.
I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!!
Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!!
The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week.
The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season.
Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise.
These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.[/p][/quote]These "glory hunters" you speak of are at every club in the world and are to be expected, just like the ones who leave after a relegation, it's the way of the world. An increase was to be expected but to ask a team like Burnley to pay more than a team who has just won the title and is crammed with international stars is a bit much.
The season ticket prices are not my concern anyway but the cynical way they are trying to force people into buying them by reducing the availability of matchday tickets (the non-opening of the DF to home fans). I do not have a season ticket and haven't had for years (simply can't afford one and even then I cannot attend all matches anyway) but non-season ticket holders are going to be lucky to get to see a game at all if we have the kind of uptake on season tickets that we had last time in the prem. I was celebrating with everyone else when we got promoted but what use is that going to be to people like me who may miss out on games because of "supply and demand". I would sooner watch championship football than no football at all.
The board need to stop jumping on the cash cow that is the Premier League and think about the fans. This is very short-termist.
You are very fortunate to have the ability to afford your season ticket and have the time (presumably) to attend all games, but not all supporters are "glory hunters" just because they don't have one.houseclaret

barlickmafia wrote…

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

These "glory hunters" you speak of are at every club in the world and are to be expected, just like the ones who leave after a relegation, it's the way of the world. An increase was to be expected but to ask a team like Burnley to pay more than a team who has just won the title and is crammed with international stars is a bit much. The season ticket prices are not my concern anyway but the cynical way they are trying to force people into buying them by reducing the availability of matchday tickets (the non-opening of the DF to home fans). I do not have a season ticket and haven't had for years (simply can't afford one and even then I cannot attend all matches anyway) but non-season ticket holders are going to be lucky to get to see a game at all if we have the kind of uptake on season tickets that we had last time in the prem. I was celebrating with everyone else when we got promoted but what use is that going to be to people like me who may miss out on games because of "supply and demand". I would sooner watch championship football than no football at all. The board need to stop jumping on the cash cow that is the Premier League and think about the fans. This is very short-termist. You are very fortunate to have the ability to afford your season ticket and have the time (presumably) to attend all games, but not all supporters are "glory hunters" just because they don't have one.

Score: 12

slants says...12:52pm Tue 13 May 14

RobH2O wrote…

slants wrote…

barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.

Do you speak in the manner that you write. If you do you live on your own.

Do you ever translate your posts so people can understand your drivel ???? nearly forgot about the extra £50.00 it costs for the Zebra company if you go down that route.Priceless scam by Burnley.

[quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.[/p][/quote]Do you speak in the manner that you write. If you do you live on your own.[/p][/quote]Do you ever translate your posts so people can understand your drivel ???? nearly forgot about the extra £50.00 it costs for the Zebra company if you go down that route.Priceless scam by Burnley.slants

RobH2O wrote…

slants wrote…

barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.

Do you speak in the manner that you write. If you do you live on your own.

Do you ever translate your posts so people can understand your drivel ???? nearly forgot about the extra £50.00 it costs for the Zebra company if you go down that route.Priceless scam by Burnley.

Score: 0

TurfMoorTom says...12:55pm Tue 13 May 14

Burnley FC – the club that received £120M from TV rights then tried to squeeze a further £500k out of a financially deprived area by immediately hiking season ticket and match day prices. Reward for the support of ‘loyal’ fans through the promotion campaign or exploitation? Burnley FC, the family club that cares. Enjoy the ride, the turmoil starts here.

Burnley FC – the club that received £120M from TV rights then tried to squeeze a further £500k out of a financially deprived area by immediately hiking season ticket and match day prices. Reward for the support of ‘loyal’ fans through the promotion campaign or exploitation? Burnley FC, the family club that cares.
Enjoy the ride, the turmoil starts here.TurfMoorTom

Burnley FC – the club that received £120M from TV rights then tried to squeeze a further £500k out of a financially deprived area by immediately hiking season ticket and match day prices. Reward for the support of ‘loyal’ fans through the promotion campaign or exploitation? Burnley FC, the family club that cares. Enjoy the ride, the turmoil starts here.

Score: 8

houseclaret says...1:01pm Tue 13 May 14

slants wrote…

barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.

You obviously don't read our site thoroughly. How many times do you need to read things like "all home sections were sold out for every game last time"? The only time it wasn't a full house was when the away end wasn't full. That will happen even more so this time and will be reflected in the average attendance accordingly. Read a previous post of mine on the non-opening of the DF stand to home supporters. I expect the away stand will be full on 4 or 5 occasions (depending on on kick-off times and days) so your prediction will be true, but only because of the away support (or lack of it). The home sections of the ground will be full (and probably over subscribed) for every game.

[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.[/p][/quote]You obviously don't read our site thoroughly. How many times do you need to read things like "all home sections were sold out for every game last time"? The only time it wasn't a full house was when the away end wasn't full. That will happen even more so this time and will be reflected in the average attendance accordingly. Read a previous post of mine on the non-opening of the DF stand to home supporters. I expect the away stand will be full on 4 or 5 occasions (depending on on kick-off times and days) so your prediction will be true, but only because of the away support (or lack of it). The home sections of the ground will be full (and probably over subscribed) for every game.houseclaret

slants wrote…

barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.

You obviously don't read our site thoroughly. How many times do you need to read things like "all home sections were sold out for every game last time"? The only time it wasn't a full house was when the away end wasn't full. That will happen even more so this time and will be reflected in the average attendance accordingly. Read a previous post of mine on the non-opening of the DF stand to home supporters. I expect the away stand will be full on 4 or 5 occasions (depending on on kick-off times and days) so your prediction will be true, but only because of the away support (or lack of it). The home sections of the ground will be full (and probably over subscribed) for every game.

Score: 2

RobH2O says...1:02pm Tue 13 May 14

slants wrote…

RobH2O wrote…

slants wrote…

barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.

Do you speak in the manner that you write. If you do you live on your own.

Do you ever translate your posts so people can understand your drivel ???? nearly forgot about the extra £50.00 it costs for the Zebra company if you go down that route.Priceless scam by Burnley.

You may, or may not, agree with the points that I make. However, they are written coherently. Feel free to use a dictionary, to identify the meaning of the words that I use that you do not understand.

[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.[/p][/quote]Do you speak in the manner that you write. If you do you live on your own.[/p][/quote]Do you ever translate your posts so people can understand your drivel ???? nearly forgot about the extra £50.00 it costs for the Zebra company if you go down that route.Priceless scam by Burnley.[/p][/quote]You may, or may not, agree with the points that I make. However, they are written coherently. Feel free to use a dictionary, to identify the meaning of the words that I use that you do not understand.RobH2O

slants wrote…

RobH2O wrote…

slants wrote…

barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.

Do you speak in the manner that you write. If you do you live on your own.

Do you ever translate your posts so people can understand your drivel ???? nearly forgot about the extra £50.00 it costs for the Zebra company if you go down that route.Priceless scam by Burnley.

You may, or may not, agree with the points that I make. However, they are written coherently. Feel free to use a dictionary, to identify the meaning of the words that I use that you do not understand.

Score: 1

Super_Clarets says...1:10pm Tue 13 May 14

barlickmafia wrote…

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

Exactly. It's the price you pay for success. This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers. There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about. Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club. The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us. Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?

[quote][p][bold]barlickmafia[/bold] wrote:
This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in.
I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!!
Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!!
The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week.
The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season.
Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise.
These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.[/p][/quote]Exactly. It's the price you pay for success.
This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers.
There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about.
Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club.
The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us.
Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?Super_Clarets

barlickmafia wrote…

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

Exactly. It's the price you pay for success. This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers. There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about. Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club. The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us. Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?

Score: -21

waggyonthewing says...1:15pm Tue 13 May 14

Oh dear.you can now be in no doubt what so ever what your club thinks of you.SHAFTED WELL AND TRULY SHAFTED!!! greed greed greed.the money burnley are about to make is mind boggling,the income from season tickets is a drop in the ocean compared to £100.000.000+ they are going to make out of the premier league but still thats not enough for greedy grabbing slime balls.You deserve better and thats coming from a Rover..

Oh dear.you can now be in no doubt what so ever what your club thinks of you.SHAFTED WELL AND TRULY SHAFTED!!! greed greed greed.the money burnley are about to make is mind boggling,the income from season tickets is a drop in the ocean compared to £100.000.000+ they are going to make out of the premier league but still thats not enough for greedy grabbing slime balls.You deserve better and thats coming from a Rover..waggyonthewing

Oh dear.you can now be in no doubt what so ever what your club thinks of you.SHAFTED WELL AND TRULY SHAFTED!!! greed greed greed.the money burnley are about to make is mind boggling,the income from season tickets is a drop in the ocean compared to £100.000.000+ they are going to make out of the premier league but still thats not enough for greedy grabbing slime balls.You deserve better and thats coming from a Rover..

Score: 12

slants says...1:17pm Tue 13 May 14

You only have to go back to the home game stats to see that they weren't sell outs .

You only have to go back to the home game stats to see that they weren't sell outs .slants

You only have to go back to the home game stats to see that they weren't sell outs .

Score: 1

PK Bailey says...1:20pm Tue 13 May 14

People had their chance but didn't want to take it, dont moan now!

People had their chance but didn't want to take it, dont moan now!PK Bailey

People had their chance but didn't want to take it, dont moan now!

Score: -7

houseclaret says...1:30pm Tue 13 May 14

Super_Clarets wrote…

barlickmafia wrote…

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

Exactly. It's the price you pay for success. This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers. There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about. Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club. The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us. Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?

But Super, what if the "price of success" is not being able to get to a game at all if you don't have a season ticket, is that a price worth paying? And is it the best league in the world? I doubt it. Look at the Bundesliga. Look at the league that is providing BOTH finalists in the Champions league (and one of them ISN'T Barcelona). Just because it's English doesn't mean it's the best. It's just the best marketed league in the world with hype from the media that would make Beyonce blush. And with 70% foreign players, is it truly an English league? Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of what we have achieved and you're right about the visiting teams, but I am afraid that I won't be able to watch the team I have supported for 50 years due to pampering to the over-hyped and massively over financed Premier League.

[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]barlickmafia[/bold] wrote:
This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in.
I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!!
Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!!
The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week.
The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season.
Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise.
These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.[/p][/quote]Exactly. It's the price you pay for success.
This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers.
There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about.
Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club.
The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us.
Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?[/p][/quote]But Super, what if the "price of success" is not being able to get to a game at all if you don't have a season ticket, is that a price worth paying? And is it the best league in the world? I doubt it. Look at the Bundesliga. Look at the league that is providing BOTH finalists in the Champions league (and one of them ISN'T Barcelona). Just because it's English doesn't mean it's the best. It's just the best marketed league in the world with hype from the media that would make Beyonce blush. And with 70% foreign players, is it truly an English league? Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of what we have achieved and you're right about the visiting teams, but I am afraid that I won't be able to watch the team I have supported for 50 years due to pampering to the over-hyped and massively over financed Premier League.houseclaret

Super_Clarets wrote…

barlickmafia wrote…

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

Exactly. It's the price you pay for success. This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers. There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about. Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club. The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us. Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?

But Super, what if the "price of success" is not being able to get to a game at all if you don't have a season ticket, is that a price worth paying? And is it the best league in the world? I doubt it. Look at the Bundesliga. Look at the league that is providing BOTH finalists in the Champions league (and one of them ISN'T Barcelona). Just because it's English doesn't mean it's the best. It's just the best marketed league in the world with hype from the media that would make Beyonce blush. And with 70% foreign players, is it truly an English league? Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of what we have achieved and you're right about the visiting teams, but I am afraid that I won't be able to watch the team I have supported for 50 years due to pampering to the over-hyped and massively over financed Premier League.

Score: 10

McClaret says...1:53pm Tue 13 May 14

Yet again the fan being the victim of Pemier league football. Disgusted by this, how does this encourage the next generation of supporter. Over £1000 for a parent and 2 little ones to go in the family stand. Smash and grab, like the free minute shop at the supermarket. As for the 'Golden handcuff' of a retainer....... That's a classic. Who knows what the prices for the following season will be? Could be £500 in the championship but at least that will be only £400 then. Imagine being the person who works Mondays until 8pm or Saturday evenings from 6pm etc. With the endless variety of kick off times you could end up missing 4 or 5 games, has the club introduced a buy back and sell on scheme of tickets for non attendees like other premiership clubs who sell out their stadiums do? Of course not, they want to rape the pockets of their supporters as much as possible and don't give a sh1t if they couldn't attend, as long as they have banked the cash. The reason they won't introduce such a scheme is they will not be confident of selling out the ground. Stoke, Hull, WBA, Villa, Swansea, Palace, Leicester, Stoke, QPR or Derby. 9 games that will not be a sell out for the home section, let alone the away. If the plan is to fill the stadium then at least lets make sure we do everything possible to support those fans who buy season tickets but may have to miss games. The club also creams off the margin of a match day price versus season ticket price so even more money for them!

Yet again the fan being the victim of Pemier league football.
Disgusted by this, how does this encourage the next generation of supporter. Over £1000 for a parent and 2 little ones to go in the family stand. Smash and grab, like the free minute shop at the supermarket. As for the 'Golden handcuff' of a retainer....... That's a classic. Who knows what the prices for the following season will be? Could be £500 in the championship but at least that will be only £400 then.
Imagine being the person who works Mondays until 8pm or Saturday evenings from 6pm etc. With the endless variety of kick off times you could end up missing 4 or 5 games, has the club introduced a buy back and sell on scheme of tickets for non attendees like other premiership clubs who sell out their stadiums do? Of course not, they want to rape the pockets of their supporters as much as possible and don't give a sh1t if they couldn't attend, as long as they have banked the cash. The reason they won't introduce such a scheme is they will not be confident of selling out the ground. Stoke, Hull, WBA, Villa, Swansea, Palace, Leicester, Stoke, QPR or Derby. 9 games that will not be a sell out for the home section, let alone the away.
If the plan is to fill the stadium then at least lets make sure we do everything possible to support those fans who buy season tickets but may have to miss games. The club also creams off the margin of a match day price versus season ticket price so even more money for them!McClaret

Yet again the fan being the victim of Pemier league football. Disgusted by this, how does this encourage the next generation of supporter. Over £1000 for a parent and 2 little ones to go in the family stand. Smash and grab, like the free minute shop at the supermarket. As for the 'Golden handcuff' of a retainer....... That's a classic. Who knows what the prices for the following season will be? Could be £500 in the championship but at least that will be only £400 then. Imagine being the person who works Mondays until 8pm or Saturday evenings from 6pm etc. With the endless variety of kick off times you could end up missing 4 or 5 games, has the club introduced a buy back and sell on scheme of tickets for non attendees like other premiership clubs who sell out their stadiums do? Of course not, they want to rape the pockets of their supporters as much as possible and don't give a sh1t if they couldn't attend, as long as they have banked the cash. The reason they won't introduce such a scheme is they will not be confident of selling out the ground. Stoke, Hull, WBA, Villa, Swansea, Palace, Leicester, Stoke, QPR or Derby. 9 games that will not be a sell out for the home section, let alone the away. If the plan is to fill the stadium then at least lets make sure we do everything possible to support those fans who buy season tickets but may have to miss games. The club also creams off the margin of a match day price versus season ticket price so even more money for them!

Score: 4

Warnie says...1:57pm Tue 13 May 14

What a disgusting move by the club. Completely out of touch. Best thing to do is not to buy.

What a disgusting move by the club. Completely out of touch. Best thing to do is not to buy.Warnie

What a disgusting move by the club. Completely out of touch. Best thing to do is not to buy.

Score: 7

BelTower says...2:07pm Tue 13 May 14

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"BelTower

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

Score: -3

TurfMoorTom says...2:16pm Tue 13 May 14

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.

[quote][p][bold]BelTower[/bold] wrote:
My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"[/p][/quote]You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.TurfMoorTom

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.

Score: 4

TurfMoorTom says...2:16pm Tue 13 May 14

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.

[quote][p][bold]BelTower[/bold] wrote:
My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"[/p][/quote]You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.TurfMoorTom

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.

Score: 1

FCBurnley says...2:40pm Tue 13 May 14

The BIG problem with the pricing structure is clearly the RETAINER of 100 pounds. If you remove that from the equation then the price per game looks pretty fair to me. But trying to hold supporters to ransom for a measly 100 quid is penny pinching at best and downright stupid marketing at worst. Even if they sell the remaining 4000 ST`s , the extra 100 retainer will only bring in 400,000 pounds. Assuming half renew next season then 200,000 of that is refunded giving a profit of 200,000. That is not taking into account the loss of sales due to the Retainer. So overall it is an ill conceived plan by whoever made the decision. It reminds me of the ill conceived COUNCIL TAX that eventually brought down a government. The RETAINER needs removing now if the Board are to retain any credibility at all. ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS

The BIG problem with the pricing structure is clearly the RETAINER of 100 pounds. If you remove that from the equation then the price per game looks pretty fair to me. But trying to hold supporters to ransom for a measly 100 quid is penny pinching at best and downright stupid marketing at worst. Even if they sell the remaining 4000 ST`s , the extra 100 retainer will only bring in 400,000 pounds. Assuming half renew next season then 200,000 of that is refunded giving a profit of 200,000. That is not taking into account the loss of sales due to the Retainer. So overall it is an ill conceived plan by whoever made the decision.
It reminds me of the ill conceived COUNCIL TAX that eventually brought down a government. The RETAINER needs removing now if the Board are to retain any credibility at all.
ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDSFCBurnley

The BIG problem with the pricing structure is clearly the RETAINER of 100 pounds. If you remove that from the equation then the price per game looks pretty fair to me. But trying to hold supporters to ransom for a measly 100 quid is penny pinching at best and downright stupid marketing at worst. Even if they sell the remaining 4000 ST`s , the extra 100 retainer will only bring in 400,000 pounds. Assuming half renew next season then 200,000 of that is refunded giving a profit of 200,000. That is not taking into account the loss of sales due to the Retainer. So overall it is an ill conceived plan by whoever made the decision. It reminds me of the ill conceived COUNCIL TAX that eventually brought down a government. The RETAINER needs removing now if the Board are to retain any credibility at all. ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS

Score: 2

Stretch_22 says...2:46pm Tue 13 May 14

You had until the 31st of March to get your tickets at the normal price. Most logical football fans would have realized that promotion was a near certainty for you then so no excuse really. It's clear its the bandwagon supporters that are complaining, and Super's comment is ridiculous, a lot of fans cant afford season tickets at the best of times, surely the board could have taken a hit and ensured a full house every week. Good luck to you while your there, although I think your ticket prices will go down again at the end of next season :-)

You had until the 31st of March to get your tickets at the normal price. Most logical football fans would have realized that promotion was a near certainty for you then so no excuse really.
It's clear its the bandwagon supporters that are complaining, and Super's comment is ridiculous, a lot of fans cant afford season tickets at the best of times, surely the board could have taken a hit and ensured a full house every week.
Good luck to you while your there, although I think your ticket prices will go down again at the end of next season :-)Stretch_22

You had until the 31st of March to get your tickets at the normal price. Most logical football fans would have realized that promotion was a near certainty for you then so no excuse really. It's clear its the bandwagon supporters that are complaining, and Super's comment is ridiculous, a lot of fans cant afford season tickets at the best of times, surely the board could have taken a hit and ensured a full house every week. Good luck to you while your there, although I think your ticket prices will go down again at the end of next season :-)

Score: 6

houseclaret says...2:54pm Tue 13 May 14

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

What if your pockets don't hold £600-odd or you simply can't justify buying a season ticket due to the number of games you may miss? Nobody wants free tickets (actually that's not true, EVERYBODY wants free tickets but we live in the real world) and the price has to go up but it's the percentage rise and the availability of matchday tickets that is the real, problem here. There are going to be a lot of "newcomers" with money who will buy these to watch Prem football (there are already it seems due to the number of pro-rise supporters on here who I have never heard of before) but what about the "real" fans who attend games when they can, whether it be due to money or work or any other bona-fide reason? I don't want to be one of the 5k or more scrabbling for 2/3k tickets just because the board have decided not to open a part of the ground that will hardly ever be used so they can sell more season tickets at inflated prices. I'm getting a little tired of the posts from people saying "You had your chance, yada yada yada". I am a true Claret of many years, having watched in the old 1st division (24 years consecutive, although I'm not old enough to remember all of that), relegation and promotion back in '72/74 (I was at Deepdale for the championship party), the FA Cup semi against Newcastle, relegation (again), the Celtic match, the Orient game, and a whole host of memories home and away, including the dark and drafty days of the old fourth division. I feel that I am potentially going to be locked out of the ground I have loved as a second home for over 80% of my life. That, gentlemen and ladies, is why I am so angry at this decision and I make no excuses to anyone for that.

[quote][p][bold]BelTower[/bold] wrote:
My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"[/p][/quote]What if your pockets don't hold £600-odd or you simply can't justify buying a season ticket due to the number of games you may miss? Nobody wants free tickets (actually that's not true, EVERYBODY wants free tickets but we live in the real world) and the price has to go up but it's the percentage rise and the availability of matchday tickets that is the real, problem here. There are going to be a lot of "newcomers" with money who will buy these to watch Prem football (there are already it seems due to the number of pro-rise supporters on here who I have never heard of before) but what about the "real" fans who attend games when they can, whether it be due to money or work or any other bona-fide reason? I don't want to be one of the 5k or more scrabbling for 2/3k tickets just because the board have decided not to open a part of the ground that will hardly ever be used so they can sell more season tickets at inflated prices.
I'm getting a little tired of the posts from people saying "You had your chance, yada yada yada". I am a true Claret of many years, having watched in the old 1st division (24 years consecutive, although I'm not old enough to remember all of that), relegation and promotion back in '72/74 (I was at Deepdale for the championship party), the FA Cup semi against Newcastle, relegation (again), the Celtic match, the Orient game, and a whole host of memories home and away, including the dark and drafty days of the old fourth division. I feel that I am potentially going to be locked out of the ground I have loved as a second home for over 80% of my life. That, gentlemen and ladies, is why I am so angry at this decision and I make no excuses to anyone for that.houseclaret

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

What if your pockets don't hold £600-odd or you simply can't justify buying a season ticket due to the number of games you may miss? Nobody wants free tickets (actually that's not true, EVERYBODY wants free tickets but we live in the real world) and the price has to go up but it's the percentage rise and the availability of matchday tickets that is the real, problem here. There are going to be a lot of "newcomers" with money who will buy these to watch Prem football (there are already it seems due to the number of pro-rise supporters on here who I have never heard of before) but what about the "real" fans who attend games when they can, whether it be due to money or work or any other bona-fide reason? I don't want to be one of the 5k or more scrabbling for 2/3k tickets just because the board have decided not to open a part of the ground that will hardly ever be used so they can sell more season tickets at inflated prices. I'm getting a little tired of the posts from people saying "You had your chance, yada yada yada". I am a true Claret of many years, having watched in the old 1st division (24 years consecutive, although I'm not old enough to remember all of that), relegation and promotion back in '72/74 (I was at Deepdale for the championship party), the FA Cup semi against Newcastle, relegation (again), the Celtic match, the Orient game, and a whole host of memories home and away, including the dark and drafty days of the old fourth division. I feel that I am potentially going to be locked out of the ground I have loved as a second home for over 80% of my life. That, gentlemen and ladies, is why I am so angry at this decision and I make no excuses to anyone for that.

Score: 7

BelTower says...2:56pm Tue 13 May 14

TurfMoorTom wrote…

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.

Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.

[quote][p][bold]TurfMoorTom[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]BelTower[/bold] wrote:
My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"[/p][/quote]You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.[/p][/quote]Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.BelTower

TurfMoorTom wrote…

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.

Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.

Score: 1

Jimbok says...2:59pm Tue 13 May 14

The thing is, next season will not be nearly as enjoyable or exciting as this one has been; there's not even the novelty factor of 5 yrs ago. But notwithstanding that fact, the glory-boys will want to turn up - I've already seen a couple of 'die-hard' Rovers' fans of my acquaintance at TM this season and we need to get what we can from these types. All the season-ticket holders I know renewed weeks ago, as they do every year, so remain unaffected.

The thing is, next season will not be nearly as enjoyable or exciting as this one has been; there's not even the novelty factor of 5 yrs ago. But notwithstanding that fact, the glory-boys will want to turn up - I've already seen a couple of 'die-hard' Rovers' fans of my acquaintance at TM this season and we need to get what we can from these types. All the season-ticket holders I know renewed weeks ago, as they do every year, so remain unaffected.Jimbok

The thing is, next season will not be nearly as enjoyable or exciting as this one has been; there's not even the novelty factor of 5 yrs ago. But notwithstanding that fact, the glory-boys will want to turn up - I've already seen a couple of 'die-hard' Rovers' fans of my acquaintance at TM this season and we need to get what we can from these types. All the season-ticket holders I know renewed weeks ago, as they do every year, so remain unaffected.

Score: -1

houseclaret says...3:27pm Tue 13 May 14

BelTower wrote…

TurfMoorTom wrote…

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.

Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.

A football club should be a football club first and a business second. If we lose sight of that we lose sight of the word "sport". Don't forget, unlike "real" businesses, if football disappeared tomorrow the world would go on pretty much as it always has. It's actually not that important (my wife absolutely hates the game). It's only important if you are a football fan (as I am) and when it becomes a business that shuts the doors on it's dedicated customers in order to make more money then we have lost sight of what it actually is in the first place - a pastime. If you really love your club, whether it be Burnley, Rovers or No-Name Athletic, you shouldn't have to be forced to pay for season tickets just to attend a game, especially when there will be, for most games, hundreds of empty seats that can't be sold. That isn't even good business sense. For what it's worth, I've spent the last 25 years in marketing so I have a pretty good idea what makes business sense and what is happening at Burnley here is just greed.

[quote][p][bold]BelTower[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoorTom[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]BelTower[/bold] wrote:
My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"[/p][/quote]You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.[/p][/quote]Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.[/p][/quote]A football club should be a football club first and a business second. If we lose sight of that we lose sight of the word "sport". Don't forget, unlike "real" businesses, if football disappeared tomorrow the world would go on pretty much as it always has. It's actually not that important (my wife absolutely hates the game). It's only important if you are a football fan (as I am) and when it becomes a business that shuts the doors on it's dedicated customers in order to make more money then we have lost sight of what it actually is in the first place - a pastime. If you really love your club, whether it be Burnley, Rovers or No-Name Athletic, you shouldn't have to be forced to pay for season tickets just to attend a game, especially when there will be, for most games, hundreds of empty seats that can't be sold. That isn't even good business sense. For what it's worth, I've spent the last 25 years in marketing so I have a pretty good idea what makes business sense and what is happening at Burnley here is just greed.houseclaret

BelTower wrote…

TurfMoorTom wrote…

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.

Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.

A football club should be a football club first and a business second. If we lose sight of that we lose sight of the word "sport". Don't forget, unlike "real" businesses, if football disappeared tomorrow the world would go on pretty much as it always has. It's actually not that important (my wife absolutely hates the game). It's only important if you are a football fan (as I am) and when it becomes a business that shuts the doors on it's dedicated customers in order to make more money then we have lost sight of what it actually is in the first place - a pastime. If you really love your club, whether it be Burnley, Rovers or No-Name Athletic, you shouldn't have to be forced to pay for season tickets just to attend a game, especially when there will be, for most games, hundreds of empty seats that can't be sold. That isn't even good business sense. For what it's worth, I've spent the last 25 years in marketing so I have a pretty good idea what makes business sense and what is happening at Burnley here is just greed.

Score: 7

noddy57 says...3:43pm Tue 13 May 14

houseclaret wrote…

BelTower wrote…

TurfMoorTom wrote…

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.

Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.

A football club should be a football club first and a business second. If we lose sight of that we lose sight of the word "sport". Don't forget, unlike "real" businesses, if football disappeared tomorrow the world would go on pretty much as it always has. It's actually not that important (my wife absolutely hates the game). It's only important if you are a football fan (as I am) and when it becomes a business that shuts the doors on it's dedicated customers in order to make more money then we have lost sight of what it actually is in the first place - a pastime. If you really love your club, whether it be Burnley, Rovers or No-Name Athletic, you shouldn't have to be forced to pay for season tickets just to attend a game, especially when there will be, for most games, hundreds of empty seats that can't be sold. That isn't even good business sense. For what it's worth, I've spent the last 25 years in marketing so I have a pretty good idea what makes business sense and what is happening at Burnley here is just greed.

try telling Oyston that at Blackpool, l must agree with the bulk of your post ,,l fell out with football many seasons ago but it was not the ticket prices that eventually decided l was not going to keep paying more and more each new season it was the fact that the game became out of reach for the average man in the street by the greed of the clubs selling out to sky etc and the players becoming more powerful than their own managers and dictating to the clubs how much more they wanted or they would be off to the highest bidder,lam of the age when clubs meant something to the players and l still remember players cycling to Ewood park and stopping along the way to talk to the fans,they now have agents to communicate with the club and fans. That is all l need to say.so really your wife may just have good reason to hate the game.

[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]BelTower[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoorTom[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]BelTower[/bold] wrote:
My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"[/p][/quote]You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.[/p][/quote]Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.[/p][/quote]A football club should be a football club first and a business second. If we lose sight of that we lose sight of the word "sport". Don't forget, unlike "real" businesses, if football disappeared tomorrow the world would go on pretty much as it always has. It's actually not that important (my wife absolutely hates the game). It's only important if you are a football fan (as I am) and when it becomes a business that shuts the doors on it's dedicated customers in order to make more money then we have lost sight of what it actually is in the first place - a pastime. If you really love your club, whether it be Burnley, Rovers or No-Name Athletic, you shouldn't have to be forced to pay for season tickets just to attend a game, especially when there will be, for most games, hundreds of empty seats that can't be sold. That isn't even good business sense. For what it's worth, I've spent the last 25 years in marketing so I have a pretty good idea what makes business sense and what is happening at Burnley here is just greed.[/p][/quote]try telling Oyston that at Blackpool, l must agree with the bulk of your post ,,l fell out with football many seasons ago but it was not the ticket prices that eventually decided l was not going to keep paying more and more each new season it was the fact that the game became out of reach for the average man in the street by the greed of the clubs selling out to sky etc and the players becoming more powerful than their own managers and dictating to the clubs how much more they wanted or they would be off to the highest bidder,lam of the age when clubs meant something to the players and l still remember players cycling to Ewood park and stopping along the way to talk to the fans,they now have agents to communicate with the club and fans. That is all l need to say.so really your wife may just have good reason to hate the game.noddy57

houseclaret wrote…

BelTower wrote…

TurfMoorTom wrote…

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.

Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.

A football club should be a football club first and a business second. If we lose sight of that we lose sight of the word "sport". Don't forget, unlike "real" businesses, if football disappeared tomorrow the world would go on pretty much as it always has. It's actually not that important (my wife absolutely hates the game). It's only important if you are a football fan (as I am) and when it becomes a business that shuts the doors on it's dedicated customers in order to make more money then we have lost sight of what it actually is in the first place - a pastime. If you really love your club, whether it be Burnley, Rovers or No-Name Athletic, you shouldn't have to be forced to pay for season tickets just to attend a game, especially when there will be, for most games, hundreds of empty seats that can't be sold. That isn't even good business sense. For what it's worth, I've spent the last 25 years in marketing so I have a pretty good idea what makes business sense and what is happening at Burnley here is just greed.

try telling Oyston that at Blackpool, l must agree with the bulk of your post ,,l fell out with football many seasons ago but it was not the ticket prices that eventually decided l was not going to keep paying more and more each new season it was the fact that the game became out of reach for the average man in the street by the greed of the clubs selling out to sky etc and the players becoming more powerful than their own managers and dictating to the clubs how much more they wanted or they would be off to the highest bidder,lam of the age when clubs meant something to the players and l still remember players cycling to Ewood park and stopping along the way to talk to the fans,they now have agents to communicate with the club and fans. That is all l need to say.so really your wife may just have good reason to hate the game.

Score: 6

hasslem hasslem says...3:57pm Tue 13 May 14

houseclaret wrote…

slants wrote…

barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.

You obviously don't read our site thoroughly. How many times do you need to read things like "all home sections were sold out for every game last time"? The only time it wasn't a full house was when the away end wasn't full. That will happen even more so this time and will be reflected in the average attendance accordingly. Read a previous post of mine on the non-opening of the DF stand to home supporters. I expect the away stand will be full on 4 or 5 occasions (depending on on kick-off times and days) so your prediction will be true, but only because of the away support (or lack of it). The home sections of the ground will be full (and probably over subscribed) for every game.

are you joking HC - as a rovers fan living in pendle i have several pals who are clarets. i have no major axe to grind against your lot so when there has been a "spare" going i have gone down to the morgue to watch a game. granted it isn't the same as watching your own and i can't bring myself to doing anything more than a reluctant clap when dingles score - but to say home ends are full for much/most of the season is simply not true. i went to 4 games (in addition to rovers visit) last season - your best season in years and there were big gaps all over the place (reflected in your attendances) particularly in that jimmy mac stand both upper and lower tiers. the last game i went to was your leicester denouement (when you were soundly beaten by a much better team (think dyche did his usual moan about the ref after dingles got beat) and there were loads and loads of empty seats.

[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.[/p][/quote]You obviously don't read our site thoroughly. How many times do you need to read things like "all home sections were sold out for every game last time"? The only time it wasn't a full house was when the away end wasn't full. That will happen even more so this time and will be reflected in the average attendance accordingly. Read a previous post of mine on the non-opening of the DF stand to home supporters. I expect the away stand will be full on 4 or 5 occasions (depending on on kick-off times and days) so your prediction will be true, but only because of the away support (or lack of it). The home sections of the ground will be full (and probably over subscribed) for every game.[/p][/quote]are you joking HC - as a rovers fan living in pendle i have several pals who are clarets. i have no major axe to grind against your lot so when there has been a "spare" going i have gone down to the morgue to watch a game. granted it isn't the same as watching your own and i can't bring myself to doing anything more than a reluctant clap when dingles score - but to say home ends are full for much/most of the season is simply not true.
i went to 4 games (in addition to rovers visit) last season - your best season in years and there were big gaps all over the place (reflected in your attendances) particularly in that jimmy mac stand both upper and lower tiers. the last game i went to was your leicester denouement (when you were soundly beaten by a much better team (think dyche did his usual moan about the ref after dingles got beat) and there were loads and loads of empty seats.hasslem hasslem

houseclaret wrote…

slants wrote…

barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.

You obviously don't read our site thoroughly. How many times do you need to read things like "all home sections were sold out for every game last time"? The only time it wasn't a full house was when the away end wasn't full. That will happen even more so this time and will be reflected in the average attendance accordingly. Read a previous post of mine on the non-opening of the DF stand to home supporters. I expect the away stand will be full on 4 or 5 occasions (depending on on kick-off times and days) so your prediction will be true, but only because of the away support (or lack of it). The home sections of the ground will be full (and probably over subscribed) for every game.

are you joking HC - as a rovers fan living in pendle i have several pals who are clarets. i have no major axe to grind against your lot so when there has been a "spare" going i have gone down to the morgue to watch a game. granted it isn't the same as watching your own and i can't bring myself to doing anything more than a reluctant clap when dingles score - but to say home ends are full for much/most of the season is simply not true. i went to 4 games (in addition to rovers visit) last season - your best season in years and there were big gaps all over the place (reflected in your attendances) particularly in that jimmy mac stand both upper and lower tiers. the last game i went to was your leicester denouement (when you were soundly beaten by a much better team (think dyche did his usual moan about the ref after dingles got beat) and there were loads and loads of empty seats.

Score: -2

houseclaret says...4:44pm Tue 13 May 14

hasslem hasslem wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

slants wrote…

barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.

You obviously don't read our site thoroughly. How many times do you need to read things like "all home sections were sold out for every game last time"? The only time it wasn't a full house was when the away end wasn't full. That will happen even more so this time and will be reflected in the average attendance accordingly. Read a previous post of mine on the non-opening of the DF stand to home supporters. I expect the away stand will be full on 4 or 5 occasions (depending on on kick-off times and days) so your prediction will be true, but only because of the away support (or lack of it). The home sections of the ground will be full (and probably over subscribed) for every game.

are you joking HC - as a rovers fan living in pendle i have several pals who are clarets. i have no major axe to grind against your lot so when there has been a "spare" going i have gone down to the morgue to watch a game. granted it isn't the same as watching your own and i can't bring myself to doing anything more than a reluctant clap when dingles score - but to say home ends are full for much/most of the season is simply not true. i went to 4 games (in addition to rovers visit) last season - your best season in years and there were big gaps all over the place (reflected in your attendances) particularly in that jimmy mac stand both upper and lower tiers. the last game i went to was your leicester denouement (when you were soundly beaten by a much better team (think dyche did his usual moan about the ref after dingles got beat) and there were loads and loads of empty seats.

Read the post again: I was talking about the last time we were in the prem. And as for lack of atmosphere, try telling that to the media who always talk about the atmosphere for a small ground, unlike the games at Ewood when I drive past occasionally, you wouldn't know there was a game on.

[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.[/p][/quote]You obviously don't read our site thoroughly. How many times do you need to read things like "all home sections were sold out for every game last time"? The only time it wasn't a full house was when the away end wasn't full. That will happen even more so this time and will be reflected in the average attendance accordingly. Read a previous post of mine on the non-opening of the DF stand to home supporters. I expect the away stand will be full on 4 or 5 occasions (depending on on kick-off times and days) so your prediction will be true, but only because of the away support (or lack of it). The home sections of the ground will be full (and probably over subscribed) for every game.[/p][/quote]are you joking HC - as a rovers fan living in pendle i have several pals who are clarets. i have no major axe to grind against your lot so when there has been a "spare" going i have gone down to the morgue to watch a game. granted it isn't the same as watching your own and i can't bring myself to doing anything more than a reluctant clap when dingles score - but to say home ends are full for much/most of the season is simply not true.
i went to 4 games (in addition to rovers visit) last season - your best season in years and there were big gaps all over the place (reflected in your attendances) particularly in that jimmy mac stand both upper and lower tiers. the last game i went to was your leicester denouement (when you were soundly beaten by a much better team (think dyche did his usual moan about the ref after dingles got beat) and there were loads and loads of empty seats.[/p][/quote]Read the post again: I was talking about the last time we were in the prem. And as for lack of atmosphere, try telling that to the media who always talk about the atmosphere for a small ground, unlike the games at Ewood when I drive past occasionally, you wouldn't know there was a game on.houseclaret

hasslem hasslem wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

slants wrote…

barlickmafia what a plonker .I will have a bet with you that the Moor only sells out approx 4/5 times all season without a doubt never sold out entirely the last time we were in the whinging, cheating .diving corrupt boring league..The corrupt league is not with that much for a ticket.I love the idea about lets rip people off for £100 and have a free £million pounds for interest Priceless scam from Burnley FC.

You obviously don't read our site thoroughly. How many times do you need to read things like "all home sections were sold out for every game last time"? The only time it wasn't a full house was when the away end wasn't full. That will happen even more so this time and will be reflected in the average attendance accordingly. Read a previous post of mine on the non-opening of the DF stand to home supporters. I expect the away stand will be full on 4 or 5 occasions (depending on on kick-off times and days) so your prediction will be true, but only because of the away support (or lack of it). The home sections of the ground will be full (and probably over subscribed) for every game.

are you joking HC - as a rovers fan living in pendle i have several pals who are clarets. i have no major axe to grind against your lot so when there has been a "spare" going i have gone down to the morgue to watch a game. granted it isn't the same as watching your own and i can't bring myself to doing anything more than a reluctant clap when dingles score - but to say home ends are full for much/most of the season is simply not true. i went to 4 games (in addition to rovers visit) last season - your best season in years and there were big gaps all over the place (reflected in your attendances) particularly in that jimmy mac stand both upper and lower tiers. the last game i went to was your leicester denouement (when you were soundly beaten by a much better team (think dyche did his usual moan about the ref after dingles got beat) and there were loads and loads of empty seats.

Read the post again: I was talking about the last time we were in the prem. And as for lack of atmosphere, try telling that to the media who always talk about the atmosphere for a small ground, unlike the games at Ewood when I drive past occasionally, you wouldn't know there was a game on.

Score: 0

turbo5 says...4:50pm Tue 13 May 14

£855 for me and a 6 year old to watch Burnley in the James Hargreaves stand I can afford it but wont pay it on principle. Total rip off, that's a future supporter lost. It would be cheaper to catch the bus to Manchester and see the league champions. Our Town Their club and Our money they want !!! After a fantastic season they have gone for a 50% price hike, talk about a bitter taste they have left.

£855 for me and a 6 year old to watch Burnley in the James Hargreaves stand
I can afford it but wont pay it on principle.
Total rip off, that's a future supporter lost. It would be cheaper to catch the bus to Manchester and see the league champions.
Our Town Their club and Our money they want !!! After a fantastic season they have gone for a 50% price hike, talk about a bitter taste they have left.turbo5

£855 for me and a 6 year old to watch Burnley in the James Hargreaves stand I can afford it but wont pay it on principle. Total rip off, that's a future supporter lost. It would be cheaper to catch the bus to Manchester and see the league champions. Our Town Their club and Our money they want !!! After a fantastic season they have gone for a 50% price hike, talk about a bitter taste they have left.

Score: 2

tall in the saddle says...4:53pm Tue 13 May 14

Rovers.1875 wrote…

I can't believe the prices for the tickets, that is just stupid?! I mean, Burnley have suffered low gates, as have we, so when the attraction of PL football comes along, is this not the time to give an attractive season ticket offer to the people of Burnley? Maybe attract new part time supporters into getting a ticket to see you play at the top level? This is not future planning for the club, it's a one season smash and grab price at the expense of the supporters, surely if they managed to attract big gates this season with a cheap season ticket offer, come next season where you may (or may not of course) end up back in the championship, it would be good to have attracted a bigger fan base? In any case, I can't believe your season ticket prices are double ours....

They did offer an attractive season ticket price if you bought before the deadline as I did and about about 13,000 other fans. It was well publicised so there can be no excuses if the offer was not taken up and we were odds on for promotion at the time. The offer was the same price as last season and just imagine who we are going to see at Turf Moor next season – Suarez, Van Persie, Sterling, Wilshere,Ings, et al. I just wonder if they will offer these six match tickets again.

[quote][p][bold]Rovers.1875[/bold] wrote:
I can't believe the prices for the tickets, that is just stupid?! I mean, Burnley have suffered low gates, as have we, so when the attraction of PL football comes along, is this not the time to give an attractive season ticket offer to the people of Burnley? Maybe attract new part time supporters into getting a ticket to see you play at the top level? This is not future planning for the club, it's a one season smash and grab price at the expense of the supporters, surely if they managed to attract big gates this season with a cheap season ticket offer, come next season where you may (or may not of course) end up back in the championship, it would be good to have attracted a bigger fan base?
In any case, I can't believe your season ticket prices are double ours....[/p][/quote]They did offer an attractive season ticket price if you bought before the deadline as I did and about about 13,000 other fans. It was well publicised so there can be no excuses if the offer was not taken up and we were odds on for promotion at the time. The offer was the same price as last season and just imagine who we are going to see at Turf Moor next season – Suarez, Van Persie, Sterling, Wilshere,Ings, et al. I just wonder if they will offer these six match tickets again.tall in the saddle

Rovers.1875 wrote…

I can't believe the prices for the tickets, that is just stupid?! I mean, Burnley have suffered low gates, as have we, so when the attraction of PL football comes along, is this not the time to give an attractive season ticket offer to the people of Burnley? Maybe attract new part time supporters into getting a ticket to see you play at the top level? This is not future planning for the club, it's a one season smash and grab price at the expense of the supporters, surely if they managed to attract big gates this season with a cheap season ticket offer, come next season where you may (or may not of course) end up back in the championship, it would be good to have attracted a bigger fan base? In any case, I can't believe your season ticket prices are double ours....

They did offer an attractive season ticket price if you bought before the deadline as I did and about about 13,000 other fans. It was well publicised so there can be no excuses if the offer was not taken up and we were odds on for promotion at the time. The offer was the same price as last season and just imagine who we are going to see at Turf Moor next season – Suarez, Van Persie, Sterling, Wilshere,Ings, et al. I just wonder if they will offer these six match tickets again.

Score: 4

BelTower says...4:58pm Tue 13 May 14

houseclaret wrote…

BelTower wrote…

TurfMoorTom wrote…

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.

Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.

A football club should be a football club first and a business second. If we lose sight of that we lose sight of the word "sport". Don't forget, unlike "real" businesses, if football disappeared tomorrow the world would go on pretty much as it always has. It's actually not that important (my wife absolutely hates the game). It's only important if you are a football fan (as I am) and when it becomes a business that shuts the doors on it's dedicated customers in order to make more money then we have lost sight of what it actually is in the first place - a pastime. If you really love your club, whether it be Burnley, Rovers or No-Name Athletic, you shouldn't have to be forced to pay for season tickets just to attend a game, especially when there will be, for most games, hundreds of empty seats that can't be sold. That isn't even good business sense. For what it's worth, I've spent the last 25 years in marketing so I have a pretty good idea what makes business sense and what is happening at Burnley here is just greed.

Meanwhile......back in the real world.

[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]BelTower[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoorTom[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]BelTower[/bold] wrote:
My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"[/p][/quote]You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.[/p][/quote]Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.[/p][/quote]A football club should be a football club first and a business second. If we lose sight of that we lose sight of the word "sport". Don't forget, unlike "real" businesses, if football disappeared tomorrow the world would go on pretty much as it always has. It's actually not that important (my wife absolutely hates the game). It's only important if you are a football fan (as I am) and when it becomes a business that shuts the doors on it's dedicated customers in order to make more money then we have lost sight of what it actually is in the first place - a pastime. If you really love your club, whether it be Burnley, Rovers or No-Name Athletic, you shouldn't have to be forced to pay for season tickets just to attend a game, especially when there will be, for most games, hundreds of empty seats that can't be sold. That isn't even good business sense. For what it's worth, I've spent the last 25 years in marketing so I have a pretty good idea what makes business sense and what is happening at Burnley here is just greed.[/p][/quote]Meanwhile......back in the real world.BelTower

houseclaret wrote…

BelTower wrote…

TurfMoorTom wrote…

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.

Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.

A football club should be a football club first and a business second. If we lose sight of that we lose sight of the word "sport". Don't forget, unlike "real" businesses, if football disappeared tomorrow the world would go on pretty much as it always has. It's actually not that important (my wife absolutely hates the game). It's only important if you are a football fan (as I am) and when it becomes a business that shuts the doors on it's dedicated customers in order to make more money then we have lost sight of what it actually is in the first place - a pastime. If you really love your club, whether it be Burnley, Rovers or No-Name Athletic, you shouldn't have to be forced to pay for season tickets just to attend a game, especially when there will be, for most games, hundreds of empty seats that can't be sold. That isn't even good business sense. For what it's worth, I've spent the last 25 years in marketing so I have a pretty good idea what makes business sense and what is happening at Burnley here is just greed.

Meanwhile......back in the real world.

Score: 2

tall in the saddle says...4:59pm Tue 13 May 14

RobH2O wrote…

Sadly, the prices are in line with other clubs in the lower two quartiles of the Premiership. The more you discount tickets, the less money you have comparatively with those teams you are competing with. There is only so much improvement you can make in the technique and application of current players. You will also have to inject new blood that can compete at this level. The type of player you are competing for is also on the direct radar of other similar clubs. They too have Premiership levels of funding. If you don't have gate revenue at the same level as your competitors, then you denude what you are able to pay. Its a sad fact of life. Regarding the tunnel relocation; Coyle and Fletcher beseeched the board to put fans in the Cricket Field Stand for a very good reason. The home changing rooms resounded thumpingly to the noise of away fans sitting above them. It felt like an away game to them. With the home fans sat directly above them, it felt like a brand new home experience. And as for running out in front of their own fans, that's total twaddle. They currently run out with the away fans behind them and the home fans 20 yards to their left. Now they will run out with away fans 10 years to their right and home fans 10 years to their left. They've lost the potential impact of the Coyle idea and got no new benefit to replace that loss. Farcical.

I agree about the tunnel move. It’s a whitewash. They could have just said they the old tunnel isn’t wide enough and so we have to move it. But to dress it up like they have is egregious. They should consider moving all together but with talk of re-development at Turf Moor (or relocating as you have mentioned) then maybe they don’t want to waste the money.

[quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote:
Sadly, the prices are in line with other clubs in the lower two quartiles of the Premiership. The more you discount tickets, the less money you have comparatively with those teams you are competing with. There is only so much improvement you can make in the technique and application of current players. You will also have to inject new blood that can compete at this level.
The type of player you are competing for is also on the direct radar of other similar clubs. They too have Premiership levels of funding. If you don't have gate revenue at the same level as your competitors, then you denude what you are able to pay. Its a sad fact of life.
Regarding the tunnel relocation; Coyle and Fletcher beseeched the board to put fans in the Cricket Field Stand for a very good reason. The home changing rooms resounded thumpingly to the noise of away fans sitting above them. It felt like an away game to them. With the home fans sat directly above them, it felt like a brand new home experience.
And as for running out in front of their own fans, that's total twaddle. They currently run out with the away fans behind them and the home fans 20 yards to their left. Now they will run out with away fans 10 years to their right and home fans 10 years to their left.
They've lost the potential impact of the Coyle idea and got no new benefit to replace that loss.
Farcical.[/p][/quote]I agree about the tunnel move. It’s a whitewash. They could have just said they the old tunnel isn’t wide enough and so we have to move it. But to dress it up like they have is egregious. They should consider moving all together but with talk of re-development at Turf Moor (or relocating as you have mentioned) then maybe they don’t want to waste the money.tall in the saddle

RobH2O wrote…

Sadly, the prices are in line with other clubs in the lower two quartiles of the Premiership. The more you discount tickets, the less money you have comparatively with those teams you are competing with. There is only so much improvement you can make in the technique and application of current players. You will also have to inject new blood that can compete at this level. The type of player you are competing for is also on the direct radar of other similar clubs. They too have Premiership levels of funding. If you don't have gate revenue at the same level as your competitors, then you denude what you are able to pay. Its a sad fact of life. Regarding the tunnel relocation; Coyle and Fletcher beseeched the board to put fans in the Cricket Field Stand for a very good reason. The home changing rooms resounded thumpingly to the noise of away fans sitting above them. It felt like an away game to them. With the home fans sat directly above them, it felt like a brand new home experience. And as for running out in front of their own fans, that's total twaddle. They currently run out with the away fans behind them and the home fans 20 yards to their left. Now they will run out with away fans 10 years to their right and home fans 10 years to their left. They've lost the potential impact of the Coyle idea and got no new benefit to replace that loss. Farcical.

I agree about the tunnel move. It’s a whitewash. They could have just said they the old tunnel isn’t wide enough and so we have to move it. But to dress it up like they have is egregious. They should consider moving all together but with talk of re-development at Turf Moor (or relocating as you have mentioned) then maybe they don’t want to waste the money.

Score: 3

Chris P Bacon says...5:12pm Tue 13 May 14

'kinell, there's some RIGHT....good stuff being written on here! All the other threads have degenerated into your typical childish he-said-she-said nonsense but fans from both sides (moron apart - inevitably) are leaving club rivalries out of this one and concentrating on the REAL issues at hand. It's refreshing to see. I find myself in the unusual position of agreeing with both POVs. For Burnley to hope to compete at this much higher level, they'll have to charge accordingly and market forces dictate you must pay more for an improved product. However, to have to pay more and be messed about on KO times and days (not the club's fault this; they have to dance to the Premier's tune if they want the money) is adding insult to injury. There is another solution though. If you haven't bought yet, buy anyway and loan your tickets out on a full-cost basis. That way, you get to keep them in your name, can watch many games on the TV without inconvenience to you, arrange with the temporary ticket-holder to attend games they can't get to and everyone's a winner.

'kinell, there's some RIGHT....good stuff being written on here! All the other threads have degenerated into your typical childish he-said-she-said nonsense but fans from both sides (moron apart - inevitably) are leaving club rivalries out of this one and concentrating on the REAL issues at hand. It's refreshing to see.
I find myself in the unusual position of agreeing with both POVs. For Burnley to hope to compete at this much higher level, they'll have to charge accordingly and market forces dictate you must pay more for an improved product. However, to have to pay more and be messed about on KO times and days (not the club's fault this; they have to dance to the Premier's tune if they want the money) is adding insult to injury.
There is another solution though. If you haven't bought yet, buy anyway and loan your tickets out on a full-cost basis. That way, you get to keep them in your name, can watch many games on the TV without inconvenience to you, arrange with the temporary ticket-holder to attend games they can't get to and everyone's a winner.Chris P Bacon

'kinell, there's some RIGHT....good stuff being written on here! All the other threads have degenerated into your typical childish he-said-she-said nonsense but fans from both sides (moron apart - inevitably) are leaving club rivalries out of this one and concentrating on the REAL issues at hand. It's refreshing to see. I find myself in the unusual position of agreeing with both POVs. For Burnley to hope to compete at this much higher level, they'll have to charge accordingly and market forces dictate you must pay more for an improved product. However, to have to pay more and be messed about on KO times and days (not the club's fault this; they have to dance to the Premier's tune if they want the money) is adding insult to injury. There is another solution though. If you haven't bought yet, buy anyway and loan your tickets out on a full-cost basis. That way, you get to keep them in your name, can watch many games on the TV without inconvenience to you, arrange with the temporary ticket-holder to attend games they can't get to and everyone's a winner.

Score: 7

BelTower says...5:12pm Tue 13 May 14

houseclaret wrote…

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

What if your pockets don't hold £600-odd or you simply can't justify buying a season ticket due to the number of games you may miss? Nobody wants free tickets (actually that's not true, EVERYBODY wants free tickets but we live in the real world) and the price has to go up but it's the percentage rise and the availability of matchday tickets that is the real, problem here. There are going to be a lot of "newcomers" with money who will buy these to watch Prem football (there are already it seems due to the number of pro-rise supporters on here who I have never heard of before) but what about the "real" fans who attend games when they can, whether it be due to money or work or any other bona-fide reason? I don't want to be one of the 5k or more scrabbling for 2/3k tickets just because the board have decided not to open a part of the ground that will hardly ever be used so they can sell more season tickets at inflated prices. I'm getting a little tired of the posts from people saying "You had your chance, yada yada yada". I am a true Claret of many years, having watched in the old 1st division (24 years consecutive, although I'm not old enough to remember all of that), relegation and promotion back in '72/74 (I was at Deepdale for the championship party), the FA Cup semi against Newcastle, relegation (again), the Celtic match, the Orient game, and a whole host of memories home and away, including the dark and drafty days of the old fourth division. I feel that I am potentially going to be locked out of the ground I have loved as a second home for over 80% of my life. That, gentlemen and ladies, is why I am so angry at this decision and I make no excuses to anyone for that.

I too have been going on the Turf when everything was in black & white and all the games you mention I recall,,,,and more. I've had a season ticket for over 40 years and truth be told there have been gaps within that period when I simply couldn't afford....and do you know what I did? - I didn't buy one; its a lifestyle choice. Play off final - I couldn't afford - missed the game ..you pay...you don't pay.....you can afford ......you cant afford. its an unfortunate fact of life that not everyone can afford the same things. Don't get me wrong whilst I'm happy to pay the earlybird I do feel the March deadline is outrageous, but that's life and no one puts a gun to your head. I hope you get a ticket I really hope you do - we need long term supporters like you to get behind the team....so beg, borrow (maybe not steal) and get a ticket, I've a feeling its going to be a season to savour.

[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]BelTower[/bold] wrote:
My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"[/p][/quote]What if your pockets don't hold £600-odd or you simply can't justify buying a season ticket due to the number of games you may miss? Nobody wants free tickets (actually that's not true, EVERYBODY wants free tickets but we live in the real world) and the price has to go up but it's the percentage rise and the availability of matchday tickets that is the real, problem here. There are going to be a lot of "newcomers" with money who will buy these to watch Prem football (there are already it seems due to the number of pro-rise supporters on here who I have never heard of before) but what about the "real" fans who attend games when they can, whether it be due to money or work or any other bona-fide reason? I don't want to be one of the 5k or more scrabbling for 2/3k tickets just because the board have decided not to open a part of the ground that will hardly ever be used so they can sell more season tickets at inflated prices.
I'm getting a little tired of the posts from people saying "You had your chance, yada yada yada". I am a true Claret of many years, having watched in the old 1st division (24 years consecutive, although I'm not old enough to remember all of that), relegation and promotion back in '72/74 (I was at Deepdale for the championship party), the FA Cup semi against Newcastle, relegation (again), the Celtic match, the Orient game, and a whole host of memories home and away, including the dark and drafty days of the old fourth division. I feel that I am potentially going to be locked out of the ground I have loved as a second home for over 80% of my life. That, gentlemen and ladies, is why I am so angry at this decision and I make no excuses to anyone for that.[/p][/quote]I too have been going on the Turf when everything was in black & white and all the games you mention I recall,,,,and more. I've had a season ticket for over 40 years and truth be told there have been gaps within that period when I simply couldn't afford....and do you know what I did? - I didn't buy one; its a lifestyle choice. Play off final - I couldn't afford - missed the game ..you pay...you don't pay.....you can afford ......you cant afford. its an unfortunate fact of life that not everyone can afford the same things. Don't get me wrong whilst I'm happy to pay the earlybird I do feel the March deadline is outrageous, but that's life and no one puts a gun to your head.
I hope you get a ticket I really hope you do - we need long term supporters like you to get behind the team....so beg, borrow (maybe not steal) and get a ticket, I've a feeling its going to be a season to savour.BelTower

houseclaret wrote…

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

What if your pockets don't hold £600-odd or you simply can't justify buying a season ticket due to the number of games you may miss? Nobody wants free tickets (actually that's not true, EVERYBODY wants free tickets but we live in the real world) and the price has to go up but it's the percentage rise and the availability of matchday tickets that is the real, problem here. There are going to be a lot of "newcomers" with money who will buy these to watch Prem football (there are already it seems due to the number of pro-rise supporters on here who I have never heard of before) but what about the "real" fans who attend games when they can, whether it be due to money or work or any other bona-fide reason? I don't want to be one of the 5k or more scrabbling for 2/3k tickets just because the board have decided not to open a part of the ground that will hardly ever be used so they can sell more season tickets at inflated prices. I'm getting a little tired of the posts from people saying "You had your chance, yada yada yada". I am a true Claret of many years, having watched in the old 1st division (24 years consecutive, although I'm not old enough to remember all of that), relegation and promotion back in '72/74 (I was at Deepdale for the championship party), the FA Cup semi against Newcastle, relegation (again), the Celtic match, the Orient game, and a whole host of memories home and away, including the dark and drafty days of the old fourth division. I feel that I am potentially going to be locked out of the ground I have loved as a second home for over 80% of my life. That, gentlemen and ladies, is why I am so angry at this decision and I make no excuses to anyone for that.

I too have been going on the Turf when everything was in black & white and all the games you mention I recall,,,,and more. I've had a season ticket for over 40 years and truth be told there have been gaps within that period when I simply couldn't afford....and do you know what I did? - I didn't buy one; its a lifestyle choice. Play off final - I couldn't afford - missed the game ..you pay...you don't pay.....you can afford ......you cant afford. its an unfortunate fact of life that not everyone can afford the same things. Don't get me wrong whilst I'm happy to pay the earlybird I do feel the March deadline is outrageous, but that's life and no one puts a gun to your head. I hope you get a ticket I really hope you do - we need long term supporters like you to get behind the team....so beg, borrow (maybe not steal) and get a ticket, I've a feeling its going to be a season to savour.

Score: 7

wilddog says...5:18pm Tue 13 May 14

So the price rising and the board raise 2 fingers up at the fans. The very supporters who stood by them. People are short of money yet because you have gone up,it does not mean peoples personal money has gone up too,well not by that much!If your not in debt.is the club ploughing most if not all the money they get for going up,into buying players? I doubt it! You will be lucky is ya get 10 million, max. To bite the hand that feeds you must hurt you. I thought well of Burnley going up and now................. ......?Your board are just greedy!

So the price rising and the board raise 2 fingers up at the fans. The very supporters who stood by them. People are short of money yet because you have gone up,it does not mean peoples personal money has gone up too,well not by that much!If your not in debt.is the club ploughing most if not all the money they get for going up,into buying players? I doubt it! You will be lucky is ya get 10 million, max. To bite the hand that feeds you must hurt you. I thought well of Burnley going up and now.................
......?Your board are just greedy!wilddog

So the price rising and the board raise 2 fingers up at the fans. The very supporters who stood by them. People are short of money yet because you have gone up,it does not mean peoples personal money has gone up too,well not by that much!If your not in debt.is the club ploughing most if not all the money they get for going up,into buying players? I doubt it! You will be lucky is ya get 10 million, max. To bite the hand that feeds you must hurt you. I thought well of Burnley going up and now................. ......?Your board are just greedy!

Score: -1

McClaret says...5:21pm Tue 13 May 14

A lot of Burnley fans are very optimistic about staying up, me for one. If we do would anyone care to guess what the renewal price will be next season?

A lot of Burnley fans are very optimistic about staying up, me for one. If we do would anyone care to guess what the renewal price will be next season?McClaret

A lot of Burnley fans are very optimistic about staying up, me for one. If we do would anyone care to guess what the renewal price will be next season?

Score: 3

spudpaul61 says...5:22pm Tue 13 May 14

well done again to the board at burnley for pricing even more fans out of going to a football match nothing short of scandalous!!! just shows me just how far the board are out of touch with the economic situation in this part of the world, premier league footy ! all that extra coin! but still shafting supporters ! beggars belief shame on the board

well done again to the board at burnley for pricing even more fans out of going to a football match nothing short of scandalous!!! just shows me just how far the board are out of touch with the economic situation in this part of the world, premier league footy ! all that extra coin! but still shafting supporters ! beggars belief shame on the boardspudpaul61

well done again to the board at burnley for pricing even more fans out of going to a football match nothing short of scandalous!!! just shows me just how far the board are out of touch with the economic situation in this part of the world, premier league footy ! all that extra coin! but still shafting supporters ! beggars belief shame on the board

Score: -9

McClaret says...5:24pm Tue 13 May 14

tall in the saddle wrote…

Rovers.1875 wrote…

I can't believe the prices for the tickets, that is just stupid?! I mean, Burnley have suffered low gates, as have we, so when the attraction of PL football comes along, is this not the time to give an attractive season ticket offer to the people of Burnley? Maybe attract new part time supporters into getting a ticket to see you play at the top level? This is not future planning for the club, it's a one season smash and grab price at the expense of the supporters, surely if they managed to attract big gates this season with a cheap season ticket offer, come next season where you may (or may not of course) end up back in the championship, it would be good to have attracted a bigger fan base? In any case, I can't believe your season ticket prices are double ours....

They did offer an attractive season ticket price if you bought before the deadline as I did and about about 13,000 other fans. It was well publicised so there can be no excuses if the offer was not taken up and we were odds on for promotion at the time. The offer was the same price as last season and just imagine who we are going to see at Turf Moor next season – Suarez, Van Persie, Sterling, Wilshere,Ings, et al. I just wonder if they will offer these six match tickets again.

Great point about the 6 match tickets, how much would they be - £300?

[quote][p][bold]tall in the saddle[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Rovers.1875[/bold] wrote:
I can't believe the prices for the tickets, that is just stupid?! I mean, Burnley have suffered low gates, as have we, so when the attraction of PL football comes along, is this not the time to give an attractive season ticket offer to the people of Burnley? Maybe attract new part time supporters into getting a ticket to see you play at the top level? This is not future planning for the club, it's a one season smash and grab price at the expense of the supporters, surely if they managed to attract big gates this season with a cheap season ticket offer, come next season where you may (or may not of course) end up back in the championship, it would be good to have attracted a bigger fan base?
In any case, I can't believe your season ticket prices are double ours....[/p][/quote]They did offer an attractive season ticket price if you bought before the deadline as I did and about about 13,000 other fans. It was well publicised so there can be no excuses if the offer was not taken up and we were odds on for promotion at the time. The offer was the same price as last season and just imagine who we are going to see at Turf Moor next season – Suarez, Van Persie, Sterling, Wilshere,Ings, et al. I just wonder if they will offer these six match tickets again.[/p][/quote]Great point about the 6 match tickets, how much would they be - £300?McClaret

tall in the saddle wrote…

Rovers.1875 wrote…

I can't believe the prices for the tickets, that is just stupid?! I mean, Burnley have suffered low gates, as have we, so when the attraction of PL football comes along, is this not the time to give an attractive season ticket offer to the people of Burnley? Maybe attract new part time supporters into getting a ticket to see you play at the top level? This is not future planning for the club, it's a one season smash and grab price at the expense of the supporters, surely if they managed to attract big gates this season with a cheap season ticket offer, come next season where you may (or may not of course) end up back in the championship, it would be good to have attracted a bigger fan base? In any case, I can't believe your season ticket prices are double ours....

They did offer an attractive season ticket price if you bought before the deadline as I did and about about 13,000 other fans. It was well publicised so there can be no excuses if the offer was not taken up and we were odds on for promotion at the time. The offer was the same price as last season and just imagine who we are going to see at Turf Moor next season – Suarez, Van Persie, Sterling, Wilshere,Ings, et al. I just wonder if they will offer these six match tickets again.

Great point about the 6 match tickets, how much would they be - £300?

Score: -4

tall in the saddle says...5:27pm Tue 13 May 14

houseclaret wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

barlickmafia wrote…

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

Exactly. It's the price you pay for success. This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers. There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about. Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club. The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us. Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?

But Super, what if the "price of success" is not being able to get to a game at all if you don't have a season ticket, is that a price worth paying? And is it the best league in the world? I doubt it. Look at the Bundesliga. Look at the league that is providing BOTH finalists in the Champions league (and one of them ISN'T Barcelona). Just because it's English doesn't mean it's the best. It's just the best marketed league in the world with hype from the media that would make Beyonce blush. And with 70% foreign players, is it truly an English league? Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of what we have achieved and you're right about the visiting teams, but I am afraid that I won't be able to watch the team I have supported for 50 years due to pampering to the over-hyped and massively over financed Premier League.

You sound like we should be in League One so you can see a game. This is rubbish. If you can’t get a ticket it’s bad luck- one of them things. I hope you can get in, but you can’t halt progress for these kind of reasons. The foreign leagues you mention do CURRENTLY have better teams at the top of their leagues but the leagues are not as good. Why do you think MOST foreign players want to play in the Premier League – because it’s the best to play in and the most exciting. Of course wages are higher here also (there are anomalies like Ronaldo etc at Real Madrid) but generally. Because wages are so high in the EPL Burnley has to try to make as much as they can in order to attract a few so they can stay in the league. I for one am all for it.

[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]barlickmafia[/bold] wrote:
This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in.
I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!!
Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!!
The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week.
The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season.
Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise.
These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.[/p][/quote]Exactly. It's the price you pay for success.
This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers.
There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about.
Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club.
The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us.
Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?[/p][/quote]But Super, what if the "price of success" is not being able to get to a game at all if you don't have a season ticket, is that a price worth paying? And is it the best league in the world? I doubt it. Look at the Bundesliga. Look at the league that is providing BOTH finalists in the Champions league (and one of them ISN'T Barcelona). Just because it's English doesn't mean it's the best. It's just the best marketed league in the world with hype from the media that would make Beyonce blush. And with 70% foreign players, is it truly an English league? Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of what we have achieved and you're right about the visiting teams, but I am afraid that I won't be able to watch the team I have supported for 50 years due to pampering to the over-hyped and massively over financed Premier League.[/p][/quote]You sound like we should be in League One so you can see a game. This is rubbish. If you can’t get a ticket it’s bad luck- one of them things. I hope you can get in, but you can’t halt progress for these kind of reasons. The foreign leagues you mention do CURRENTLY have better teams at the top of their leagues but the leagues are not as good. Why do you think MOST foreign players want to play in the Premier League – because it’s the best to play in and the most exciting. Of course wages are higher here also (there are anomalies like Ronaldo etc at Real Madrid) but generally. Because wages are so high in the EPL Burnley has to try to make as much as they can in order to attract a few so they can stay in the league. I for one am all for it.tall in the saddle

houseclaret wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

barlickmafia wrote…

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

Exactly. It's the price you pay for success. This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers. There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about. Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club. The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us. Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?

But Super, what if the "price of success" is not being able to get to a game at all if you don't have a season ticket, is that a price worth paying? And is it the best league in the world? I doubt it. Look at the Bundesliga. Look at the league that is providing BOTH finalists in the Champions league (and one of them ISN'T Barcelona). Just because it's English doesn't mean it's the best. It's just the best marketed league in the world with hype from the media that would make Beyonce blush. And with 70% foreign players, is it truly an English league? Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of what we have achieved and you're right about the visiting teams, but I am afraid that I won't be able to watch the team I have supported for 50 years due to pampering to the over-hyped and massively over financed Premier League.

You sound like we should be in League One so you can see a game. This is rubbish. If you can’t get a ticket it’s bad luck- one of them things. I hope you can get in, but you can’t halt progress for these kind of reasons. The foreign leagues you mention do CURRENTLY have better teams at the top of their leagues but the leagues are not as good. Why do you think MOST foreign players want to play in the Premier League – because it’s the best to play in and the most exciting. Of course wages are higher here also (there are anomalies like Ronaldo etc at Real Madrid) but generally. Because wages are so high in the EPL Burnley has to try to make as much as they can in order to attract a few so they can stay in the league. I for one am all for it.

Score: 2

tall in the saddle says...5:49pm Tue 13 May 14

Just heard Adrian Durham on Talk Sports giving the thumbs down to Burnley fans for moaning about the price increase on tickets. Love or loathe him he’s right on this one. As he correctly points out the prices was the same as last season if tickets were bought before March 31st. As he also correctly points out most fans would expect to pay more for premier league football than Championship.

Just heard Adrian Durham on Talk Sports giving the thumbs down to Burnley fans for moaning about the price increase on tickets. Love or loathe him he’s right on this one. As he correctly points out the prices was the same as last season if tickets were bought before March 31st. As he also correctly points out most fans would expect to pay more for premier league football than Championship.tall in the saddle

Just heard Adrian Durham on Talk Sports giving the thumbs down to Burnley fans for moaning about the price increase on tickets. Love or loathe him he’s right on this one. As he correctly points out the prices was the same as last season if tickets were bought before March 31st. As he also correctly points out most fans would expect to pay more for premier league football than Championship.

Score: 1

Super_Clarets says...5:53pm Tue 13 May 14

spudpaul61 wrote…

well done again to the board at burnley for pricing even more fans out of going to a football match nothing short of scandalous!!! just shows me just how far the board are out of touch with the economic situation in this part of the world, premier league footy ! all that extra coin! but still shafting supporters ! beggars belief shame on the board

As a means of encouraging supporters to purchase season tickets, the Chairman of Burnley Football Club pledged that should the team win promotion to the Premier League, then the club would provide a free renewal ticket for the 2009/10 season. When the Club gained promotion through the play-offs in May 2009, the so-called “Chairman’s Pledge” came into operation. Supporters were provided with free season tickets or a refund if they had already purchased season tickets. The Chairman’s Pledge cost the Club over £2 million to fund. This, along with the repayment of loans, took a large chunk out of the finances available and we fell short of staying up. I understand that some may not agree with the pricing policy particularly in the current climate however this time around we appear to be better structured to make more of an impression at the top level and if that benefit to the club comes at a greater cost to the fans then its time to make the choice, are you willing to pay the difference and support the team at the top level or not? Some will choose to, others will sit in the pub and whine about a lack of funding for the manager. You can't please all of the people all of the time. We could of course be run differently and offer £199 season tickets as per our noisy neighbours, but would you really like to see losses mounting up into the millions? I agree that it is a steep increase but if the financial aspects subsequently allow us to strengthen such that we stay up, is it a price worth paying?

[quote][p][bold]spudpaul61[/bold] wrote:
well done again to the board at burnley for pricing even more fans out of going to a football match nothing short of scandalous!!! just shows me just how far the board are out of touch with the economic situation in this part of the world, premier league footy ! all that extra coin! but still shafting supporters ! beggars belief shame on the board[/p][/quote]As a means of encouraging supporters to purchase season tickets, the Chairman of Burnley Football Club pledged that should the team win promotion to the Premier League, then the club would provide a free renewal ticket for the 2009/10 season. When the Club gained promotion through the play-offs in May 2009, the so-called “Chairman’s Pledge” came into operation. Supporters were provided with free season tickets or a refund if they had already purchased season tickets. The Chairman’s Pledge cost the Club over £2 million to fund.
This, along with the repayment of loans, took a large chunk out of the finances available and we fell short of staying up.
I understand that some may not agree with the pricing policy particularly in the current climate however this time around we appear to be better structured to make more of an impression at the top level and if that benefit to the club comes at a greater cost to the fans then its time to make the choice, are you willing to pay the difference and support the team at the top level or not?
Some will choose to, others will sit in the pub and whine about a lack of funding for the manager. You can't please all of the people all of the time.
We could of course be run differently and offer £199 season tickets as per our noisy neighbours, but would you really like to see losses mounting up into the millions?
I agree that it is a steep increase but if the financial aspects subsequently allow us to strengthen such that we stay up, is it a price worth paying?Super_Clarets

spudpaul61 wrote…

well done again to the board at burnley for pricing even more fans out of going to a football match nothing short of scandalous!!! just shows me just how far the board are out of touch with the economic situation in this part of the world, premier league footy ! all that extra coin! but still shafting supporters ! beggars belief shame on the board

As a means of encouraging supporters to purchase season tickets, the Chairman of Burnley Football Club pledged that should the team win promotion to the Premier League, then the club would provide a free renewal ticket for the 2009/10 season. When the Club gained promotion through the play-offs in May 2009, the so-called “Chairman’s Pledge” came into operation. Supporters were provided with free season tickets or a refund if they had already purchased season tickets. The Chairman’s Pledge cost the Club over £2 million to fund. This, along with the repayment of loans, took a large chunk out of the finances available and we fell short of staying up. I understand that some may not agree with the pricing policy particularly in the current climate however this time around we appear to be better structured to make more of an impression at the top level and if that benefit to the club comes at a greater cost to the fans then its time to make the choice, are you willing to pay the difference and support the team at the top level or not? Some will choose to, others will sit in the pub and whine about a lack of funding for the manager. You can't please all of the people all of the time. We could of course be run differently and offer £199 season tickets as per our noisy neighbours, but would you really like to see losses mounting up into the millions? I agree that it is a steep increase but if the financial aspects subsequently allow us to strengthen such that we stay up, is it a price worth paying?

Score: 3

McClaret says...6:08pm Tue 13 May 14

House Claret, like you I was on many of those games and held a season ticket for most of my life other than time spent working away etc. Some great memories of the 4th division away trips, they had to be seen to be believed. In the last couple of years I have had to pick and choose games due to family commitments. I was and am still not sure whether I can commit to a season ticket for next season but hoped to do so and persuade my young children to come and enjoy the adventure. I have to travel 1 hr to home games therefore night matches are too late for the children. The club had an excellent policy with kids tickets when they let you upgrade them and therefore at night matches you could sell your ticket to a mate and take them with you instead of the kids. The club scrapped this. Why? I expected a hike in prices due to promotion but nothing on this level. This is a simple way to alienate supporters and they can't go crying when children in Burnley are wearing City and United shirts etc. Imagine having 4 children, 1 income, buying replica shirts, refreshments over a season such as 4x £3 premier league hot dogs etc etc Delighted we were promoted and completely understand what the club are doing but it is so very short sighted IMO. For a long time I said the crowds were below where they should be this season due to overpriced season tickets, match day prices, lack of promotions etc. Instead we are bribing them with a 'Golden Handcuff' (retainer). Quite incredible The way I feel about it is they can keep their retainer for the sake of approx 200k, or whatever they will make from it. A lifelong Claret.

House Claret, like you I was on many of those games and held a season ticket for most of my life other than time spent working away etc. Some great memories of the 4th division away trips, they had to be seen to be believed.
In the last couple of years I have had to pick and choose games due to family commitments. I was and am still not sure whether I can commit to a season ticket for next season but hoped to do so and persuade my young children to come and enjoy the adventure.
I have to travel 1 hr to home games therefore night matches are too late for the children. The club had an excellent policy with kids tickets when they let you upgrade them and therefore at night matches you could sell your ticket to a mate and take them with you instead of the kids. The club scrapped this. Why?
I expected a hike in prices due to promotion but nothing on this level. This is a simple way to alienate supporters and they can't go crying when children in Burnley are wearing City and United shirts etc. Imagine having 4 children, 1 income, buying replica shirts, refreshments over a season such as 4x £3 premier league hot dogs etc etc
Delighted we were promoted and completely understand what the club are doing but it is so very short sighted IMO. For a long time I said the crowds were below where they should be this season due to overpriced season tickets, match day prices, lack of promotions etc. Instead we are bribing them with a 'Golden Handcuff' (retainer). Quite incredible
The way I feel about it is they can keep their retainer for the sake of approx 200k, or whatever they will make from it.
A lifelong Claret.McClaret

House Claret, like you I was on many of those games and held a season ticket for most of my life other than time spent working away etc. Some great memories of the 4th division away trips, they had to be seen to be believed. In the last couple of years I have had to pick and choose games due to family commitments. I was and am still not sure whether I can commit to a season ticket for next season but hoped to do so and persuade my young children to come and enjoy the adventure. I have to travel 1 hr to home games therefore night matches are too late for the children. The club had an excellent policy with kids tickets when they let you upgrade them and therefore at night matches you could sell your ticket to a mate and take them with you instead of the kids. The club scrapped this. Why? I expected a hike in prices due to promotion but nothing on this level. This is a simple way to alienate supporters and they can't go crying when children in Burnley are wearing City and United shirts etc. Imagine having 4 children, 1 income, buying replica shirts, refreshments over a season such as 4x £3 premier league hot dogs etc etc Delighted we were promoted and completely understand what the club are doing but it is so very short sighted IMO. For a long time I said the crowds were below where they should be this season due to overpriced season tickets, match day prices, lack of promotions etc. Instead we are bribing them with a 'Golden Handcuff' (retainer). Quite incredible The way I feel about it is they can keep their retainer for the sake of approx 200k, or whatever they will make from it. A lifelong Claret.

Score: 1

wilddog says...6:18pm Tue 13 May 14

trouble is, Burnley are a small club and you guys expect the cream of the crop to play at your place(would say ground) but its never ever changed! The seats always remind me of the old tipler toilets that people used to have in their back yards. Maybe, BFC bought them all in a cheap deal?

trouble is, Burnley are a small club and you guys expect the cream of the crop to play at your place(would say ground) but its never ever changed! The seats always remind me of the old tipler toilets that people used to have in their back yards. Maybe, BFC bought them all in a cheap deal?wilddog

trouble is, Burnley are a small club and you guys expect the cream of the crop to play at your place(would say ground) but its never ever changed! The seats always remind me of the old tipler toilets that people used to have in their back yards. Maybe, BFC bought them all in a cheap deal?

Score: -4

noddy57 says...6:20pm Tue 13 May 14

Super_Clarets wrote…

barlickmafia wrote…

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

Exactly. It's the price you pay for success. This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers. There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about. Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club. The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us. Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?

looks like it does,,,not everyone has deep pockets!!! apart from the money grabbing footballers who could not give a toss about their fans no-matter how loyal they have been.

[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]barlickmafia[/bold] wrote:
This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in.
I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!!
Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!!
The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week.
The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season.
Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise.
These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.[/p][/quote]Exactly. It's the price you pay for success.
This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers.
There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about.
Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club.
The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us.
Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?[/p][/quote]looks like it does,,,not everyone has deep pockets!!! apart from the money grabbing footballers who could not give a toss about their fans no-matter how loyal they have been.noddy57

Super_Clarets wrote…

barlickmafia wrote…

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

Exactly. It's the price you pay for success. This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers. There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about. Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club. The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us. Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?

looks like it does,,,not everyone has deep pockets!!! apart from the money grabbing footballers who could not give a toss about their fans no-matter how loyal they have been.

Score: 2

turbo5 says...6:28pm Tue 13 May 14

As a Burnley fan for over 40 years I have supported them through the good and bad, I remember gates of 2000 in the dark days of the old 4th Diversion. What do you think attracts supporters ? success. !! If I followed the same analogy as some of the comments on here, (misguided elitism because you have had a season ticket for a few years) I could say that the 13000 who bought their early bird tickets aren't true fans. you jumped on the bad wagon at some time in your life. New supporters or rejuvenated supporters should be encouraged, also encouraging the children to attend, These are the future of the club, the supporters of tomorrow why do you think most clubs encourage young children to attend ? Smug comments from those who bought their tickets early don't do the club any favours.. If they had their way they wouldn't allow new supporters and if they did they wouldn't be made welcome.

As a Burnley fan for over 40 years I have supported them through the good and bad, I remember gates of 2000 in the dark days of the old 4th Diversion. What do you think attracts supporters ? success. !! If I followed the same analogy as some of the comments on here, (misguided elitism because you have had a season ticket for a few years) I could say that the 13000 who bought their early bird tickets aren't true fans. you jumped on the bad wagon at some time in your life. New supporters or rejuvenated supporters should be encouraged, also encouraging the children to attend, These are the future of the club, the supporters of tomorrow why do you think most clubs encourage young children to attend ?
Smug comments from those who bought their tickets early don't do the club any favours.. If they had their way they wouldn't allow new supporters and if they did they wouldn't be made welcome.turbo5

As a Burnley fan for over 40 years I have supported them through the good and bad, I remember gates of 2000 in the dark days of the old 4th Diversion. What do you think attracts supporters ? success. !! If I followed the same analogy as some of the comments on here, (misguided elitism because you have had a season ticket for a few years) I could say that the 13000 who bought their early bird tickets aren't true fans. you jumped on the bad wagon at some time in your life. New supporters or rejuvenated supporters should be encouraged, also encouraging the children to attend, These are the future of the club, the supporters of tomorrow why do you think most clubs encourage young children to attend ? Smug comments from those who bought their tickets early don't do the club any favours.. If they had their way they wouldn't allow new supporters and if they did they wouldn't be made welcome.

Score: 6

stevieclaret says...7:34pm Tue 13 May 14

Rovers.1875 wrote…

I can't believe the prices for the tickets, that is just stupid?! I mean, Burnley have suffered low gates, as have we, so when the attraction of PL football comes along, is this not the time to give an attractive season ticket offer to the people of Burnley? Maybe attract new part time supporters into getting a ticket to see you play at the top level? This is not future planning for the club, it's a one season smash and grab price at the expense of the supporters, surely if they managed to attract big gates this season with a cheap season ticket offer, come next season where you may (or may not of course) end up back in the championship, it would be good to have attracted a bigger fan base? In any case, I can't believe your season ticket prices are double ours....

Mine was already double of jack01s. Then again we paid 4 quality football last year...u pay with peanuts n u get...

[quote][p][bold]Rovers.1875[/bold] wrote:
I can't believe the prices for the tickets, that is just stupid?! I mean, Burnley have suffered low gates, as have we, so when the attraction of PL football comes along, is this not the time to give an attractive season ticket offer to the people of Burnley? Maybe attract new part time supporters into getting a ticket to see you play at the top level? This is not future planning for the club, it's a one season smash and grab price at the expense of the supporters, surely if they managed to attract big gates this season with a cheap season ticket offer, come next season where you may (or may not of course) end up back in the championship, it would be good to have attracted a bigger fan base?
In any case, I can't believe your season ticket prices are double ours....[/p][/quote]Mine was already double of jack01s. Then again we paid 4 quality football last year...u pay with peanuts n u get...stevieclaret

Rovers.1875 wrote…

I can't believe the prices for the tickets, that is just stupid?! I mean, Burnley have suffered low gates, as have we, so when the attraction of PL football comes along, is this not the time to give an attractive season ticket offer to the people of Burnley? Maybe attract new part time supporters into getting a ticket to see you play at the top level? This is not future planning for the club, it's a one season smash and grab price at the expense of the supporters, surely if they managed to attract big gates this season with a cheap season ticket offer, come next season where you may (or may not of course) end up back in the championship, it would be good to have attracted a bigger fan base? In any case, I can't believe your season ticket prices are double ours....

Mine was already double of jack01s. Then again we paid 4 quality football last year...u pay with peanuts n u get...

Score: -3

spudpaul61 says...7:41pm Tue 13 May 14

Super_Clarets wrote…

spudpaul61 wrote…

well done again to the board at burnley for pricing even more fans out of going to a football match nothing short of scandalous!!! just shows me just how far the board are out of touch with the economic situation in this part of the world, premier league footy ! all that extra coin! but still shafting supporters ! beggars belief shame on the board

As a means of encouraging supporters to purchase season tickets, the Chairman of Burnley Football Club pledged that should the team win promotion to the Premier League, then the club would provide a free renewal ticket for the 2009/10 season. When the Club gained promotion through the play-offs in May 2009, the so-called “Chairman’s Pledge” came into operation. Supporters were provided with free season tickets or a refund if they had already purchased season tickets. The Chairman’s Pledge cost the Club over £2 million to fund. This, along with the repayment of loans, took a large chunk out of the finances available and we fell short of staying up. I understand that some may not agree with the pricing policy particularly in the current climate however this time around we appear to be better structured to make more of an impression at the top level and if that benefit to the club comes at a greater cost to the fans then its time to make the choice, are you willing to pay the difference and support the team at the top level or not? Some will choose to, others will sit in the pub and whine about a lack of funding for the manager. You can't please all of the people all of the time. We could of course be run differently and offer £199 season tickets as per our noisy neighbours, but would you really like to see losses mounting up into the millions? I agree that it is a steep increase but if the financial aspects subsequently allow us to strengthen such that we stay up, is it a price worth paying?

ok take your points on board but as a business man why do they alienate people like me and others who cant or in my case wont pay these scandalous prices to watch our town team play football and then say we are relying on the away end being full because maybe we wont fill the home stands, its just another kick in the balls for the average working person in this area and I for one think it stinks, a working class game my butt!! nearly £700 to watch my local team, come on this is burnley pal, they whacked the prices up last time in the premier league and never reduced them later on, as for walk on prices gawd help us all its defo the boozer for me once again shame on the directors.

[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]spudpaul61[/bold] wrote:
well done again to the board at burnley for pricing even more fans out of going to a football match nothing short of scandalous!!! just shows me just how far the board are out of touch with the economic situation in this part of the world, premier league footy ! all that extra coin! but still shafting supporters ! beggars belief shame on the board[/p][/quote]As a means of encouraging supporters to purchase season tickets, the Chairman of Burnley Football Club pledged that should the team win promotion to the Premier League, then the club would provide a free renewal ticket for the 2009/10 season. When the Club gained promotion through the play-offs in May 2009, the so-called “Chairman’s Pledge” came into operation. Supporters were provided with free season tickets or a refund if they had already purchased season tickets. The Chairman’s Pledge cost the Club over £2 million to fund.
This, along with the repayment of loans, took a large chunk out of the finances available and we fell short of staying up.
I understand that some may not agree with the pricing policy particularly in the current climate however this time around we appear to be better structured to make more of an impression at the top level and if that benefit to the club comes at a greater cost to the fans then its time to make the choice, are you willing to pay the difference and support the team at the top level or not?
Some will choose to, others will sit in the pub and whine about a lack of funding for the manager. You can't please all of the people all of the time.
We could of course be run differently and offer £199 season tickets as per our noisy neighbours, but would you really like to see losses mounting up into the millions?
I agree that it is a steep increase but if the financial aspects subsequently allow us to strengthen such that we stay up, is it a price worth paying?[/p][/quote]ok take your points on board but as a business man why do they alienate people like me and others who cant or in my case wont pay these scandalous prices to watch our town team play football and then say we are relying on the away end being full because maybe we wont fill the home stands, its just another kick in the balls for the average working person in this area and I for one think it stinks, a working class game my butt!! nearly £700 to watch my local team, come on this is burnley pal, they whacked the prices up last time in the premier league and never reduced them later on, as for walk on prices gawd help us all its defo the boozer for me once again shame on the directors.spudpaul61

Super_Clarets wrote…

spudpaul61 wrote…

well done again to the board at burnley for pricing even more fans out of going to a football match nothing short of scandalous!!! just shows me just how far the board are out of touch with the economic situation in this part of the world, premier league footy ! all that extra coin! but still shafting supporters ! beggars belief shame on the board

As a means of encouraging supporters to purchase season tickets, the Chairman of Burnley Football Club pledged that should the team win promotion to the Premier League, then the club would provide a free renewal ticket for the 2009/10 season. When the Club gained promotion through the play-offs in May 2009, the so-called “Chairman’s Pledge” came into operation. Supporters were provided with free season tickets or a refund if they had already purchased season tickets. The Chairman’s Pledge cost the Club over £2 million to fund. This, along with the repayment of loans, took a large chunk out of the finances available and we fell short of staying up. I understand that some may not agree with the pricing policy particularly in the current climate however this time around we appear to be better structured to make more of an impression at the top level and if that benefit to the club comes at a greater cost to the fans then its time to make the choice, are you willing to pay the difference and support the team at the top level or not? Some will choose to, others will sit in the pub and whine about a lack of funding for the manager. You can't please all of the people all of the time. We could of course be run differently and offer £199 season tickets as per our noisy neighbours, but would you really like to see losses mounting up into the millions? I agree that it is a steep increase but if the financial aspects subsequently allow us to strengthen such that we stay up, is it a price worth paying?

ok take your points on board but as a business man why do they alienate people like me and others who cant or in my case wont pay these scandalous prices to watch our town team play football and then say we are relying on the away end being full because maybe we wont fill the home stands, its just another kick in the balls for the average working person in this area and I for one think it stinks, a working class game my butt!! nearly £700 to watch my local team, come on this is burnley pal, they whacked the prices up last time in the premier league and never reduced them later on, as for walk on prices gawd help us all its defo the boozer for me once again shame on the directors.

Score: 0

slants says...7:57pm Tue 13 May 14

House claret lol what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah. The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.

House claret lol
what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah.
The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.slants

House claret lol what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah. The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.

Score: -6

RobH2O says...8:02pm Tue 13 May 14

slants wrote…

House claret lol what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah. The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.

What an odd slant and life and the things that it comprises

[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
House claret lol
what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah.
The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.[/p][/quote]What an odd slant and life and the things that it comprisesRobH2O

slants wrote…

House claret lol what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah. The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.

What an odd slant and life and the things that it comprises

Score: 4

slants says...8:14pm Tue 13 May 14

tall in the saddle wrote…

Just heard Adrian Durham on Talk Sports giving the thumbs down to Burnley fans for moaning about the price increase on tickets. Love or loathe him he’s right on this one. As he correctly points out the prices was the same as last season if tickets were bought before March 31st. As he also correctly points out most fans would expect to pay more for premier league football than Championship.

does any sane person listen to that drivel station unreal.Who is adrian ?????

[quote][p][bold]tall in the saddle[/bold] wrote:
Just heard Adrian Durham on Talk Sports giving the thumbs down to Burnley fans for moaning about the price increase on tickets. Love or loathe him he’s right on this one. As he correctly points out the prices was the same as last season if tickets were bought before March 31st. As he also correctly points out most fans would expect to pay more for premier league football than Championship.[/p][/quote]does any sane person listen to that drivel station unreal.Who is adrian ?????slants

tall in the saddle wrote…

Just heard Adrian Durham on Talk Sports giving the thumbs down to Burnley fans for moaning about the price increase on tickets. Love or loathe him he’s right on this one. As he correctly points out the prices was the same as last season if tickets were bought before March 31st. As he also correctly points out most fans would expect to pay more for premier league football than Championship.

does any sane person listen to that drivel station unreal.Who is adrian ?????

Score: -1

slants says...8:20pm Tue 13 May 14

RobH2O wrote…

slants wrote…

House claret lol what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah. The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.

What an odd slant and life and the things that it comprises

how is getting bored of watching cheats and being pushed around by the filth every home game so deciding to spend my money else where on better things a strange outlook you diickhead??you sheep have the strange outlook.

[quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
House claret lol
what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah.
The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.[/p][/quote]What an odd slant and life and the things that it comprises[/p][/quote]how is getting bored of watching cheats and being pushed around by the filth every home game so deciding to spend my money else where on better things a strange outlook you diickhead??you sheep have the strange outlook.slants

RobH2O wrote…

slants wrote…

House claret lol what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah. The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.

What an odd slant and life and the things that it comprises

how is getting bored of watching cheats and being pushed around by the filth every home game so deciding to spend my money else where on better things a strange outlook you diickhead??you sheep have the strange outlook.

Score: -3

RobH2O says...8:22pm Tue 13 May 14

slants wrote…

RobH2O wrote…

slants wrote…

House claret lol what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah. The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.

What an odd slant and life and the things that it comprises

how is getting bored of watching cheats and being pushed around by the filth every home game so deciding to spend my money else where on better things a strange outlook you diickhead??you sheep have the strange outlook.

If your normal then count me out sunshine! I'd rather be a dic.khead than your version of normal. Try a checkup from the neck up sunshine!

[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
House claret lol
what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah.
The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.[/p][/quote]What an odd slant and life and the things that it comprises[/p][/quote]how is getting bored of watching cheats and being pushed around by the filth every home game so deciding to spend my money else where on better things a strange outlook you diickhead??you sheep have the strange outlook.[/p][/quote]If your normal then count me out sunshine! I'd rather be a dic.khead than your version of normal. Try a checkup from the neck up sunshine!RobH2O

slants wrote…

RobH2O wrote…

slants wrote…

House claret lol what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah. The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.

What an odd slant and life and the things that it comprises

how is getting bored of watching cheats and being pushed around by the filth every home game so deciding to spend my money else where on better things a strange outlook you diickhead??you sheep have the strange outlook.

If your normal then count me out sunshine! I'd rather be a dic.khead than your version of normal. Try a checkup from the neck up sunshine!

Score: 3

McClaret says...8:25pm Tue 13 May 14

turbo5 wrote…

As a Burnley fan for over 40 years I have supported them through the good and bad, I remember gates of 2000 in the dark days of the old 4th Diversion. What do you think attracts supporters ? success. !! If I followed the same analogy as some of the comments on here, (misguided elitism because you have had a season ticket for a few years) I could say that the 13000 who bought their early bird tickets aren't true fans. you jumped on the bad wagon at some time in your life. New supporters or rejuvenated supporters should be encouraged, also encouraging the children to attend, These are the future of the club, the supporters of tomorrow why do you think most clubs encourage young children to attend ? Smug comments from those who bought their tickets early don't do the club any favours.. If they had their way they wouldn't allow new supporters and if they did they wouldn't be made welcome.

Perfectly put. As much as we would like to dream we will never have the infrastructure or be able to keep hold of players for long enough to be a long term premier side. We are simply not big enough. Blackburn were bank rolled and mainly bottom halfish, look at how much Fayed put into Fulham for G*ds sake and that was just to be a bottom half team! Who will finance Burnley - 400k from the fans!!!!!!!!! A drop in the ocean of prem finances and an own goal by the board. Will we buy Jelavic and Long like Hull did - will we f*ck. I for one would not want to ruin our great club by chasing the ace. Without at least 100m investment the rest is inevitable within a relatively short space of time - look how much Swansea have spent on signings! Apologies to have to write this realism during our euphoria but I really feel that our board have taken the p*ss out of their own fans with this one. Our top assets will be poached and that is fair, the big companies always take the best of the smaller ones, such is life. Going on what has been written so far their is a divide between us and this is being well debated. What is evident is that the BFC board have just p*ssed off a number of their loyal supporters. I would be very surprised to see the home end sold out for all but a handful of games, last time around you could get tickets for most games if you wanted. One thing for certain is we will find out either way. UTC

[quote][p][bold]turbo5[/bold] wrote:
As a Burnley fan for over 40 years I have supported them through the good and bad, I remember gates of 2000 in the dark days of the old 4th Diversion. What do you think attracts supporters ? success. !! If I followed the same analogy as some of the comments on here, (misguided elitism because you have had a season ticket for a few years) I could say that the 13000 who bought their early bird tickets aren't true fans. you jumped on the bad wagon at some time in your life. New supporters or rejuvenated supporters should be encouraged, also encouraging the children to attend, These are the future of the club, the supporters of tomorrow why do you think most clubs encourage young children to attend ?
Smug comments from those who bought their tickets early don't do the club any favours.. If they had their way they wouldn't allow new supporters and if they did they wouldn't be made welcome.[/p][/quote]Perfectly put.
As much as we would like to dream we will never have the infrastructure or be able to keep hold of players for long enough to be a long term premier side. We are simply not big enough.
Blackburn were bank rolled and mainly bottom halfish, look at how much Fayed put into Fulham for G*ds sake and that was just to be a bottom half team! Who will finance Burnley - 400k from the fans!!!!!!!!! A drop in the ocean of prem finances and an own goal by the board. Will we buy Jelavic and Long like Hull did - will we f*ck. I for one would not want to ruin our great club by chasing the ace. Without at least 100m investment the rest is inevitable within a relatively short space of time - look how much Swansea have spent on signings!
Apologies to have to write this realism during our euphoria but I really feel that our board have taken the p*ss out of their own fans with this one.
Our top assets will be poached and that is fair, the big companies always take the best of the smaller ones, such is life.
Going on what has been written so far their is a divide between us and this is being well debated. What is evident is that the BFC board have just p*ssed off a number of their loyal supporters.
I would be very surprised to see the home end sold out for all but a handful of games, last time around you could get tickets for most games if you wanted. One thing for certain is we will find out either way.
UTCMcClaret

turbo5 wrote…

As a Burnley fan for over 40 years I have supported them through the good and bad, I remember gates of 2000 in the dark days of the old 4th Diversion. What do you think attracts supporters ? success. !! If I followed the same analogy as some of the comments on here, (misguided elitism because you have had a season ticket for a few years) I could say that the 13000 who bought their early bird tickets aren't true fans. you jumped on the bad wagon at some time in your life. New supporters or rejuvenated supporters should be encouraged, also encouraging the children to attend, These are the future of the club, the supporters of tomorrow why do you think most clubs encourage young children to attend ? Smug comments from those who bought their tickets early don't do the club any favours.. If they had their way they wouldn't allow new supporters and if they did they wouldn't be made welcome.

Perfectly put. As much as we would like to dream we will never have the infrastructure or be able to keep hold of players for long enough to be a long term premier side. We are simply not big enough. Blackburn were bank rolled and mainly bottom halfish, look at how much Fayed put into Fulham for G*ds sake and that was just to be a bottom half team! Who will finance Burnley - 400k from the fans!!!!!!!!! A drop in the ocean of prem finances and an own goal by the board. Will we buy Jelavic and Long like Hull did - will we f*ck. I for one would not want to ruin our great club by chasing the ace. Without at least 100m investment the rest is inevitable within a relatively short space of time - look how much Swansea have spent on signings! Apologies to have to write this realism during our euphoria but I really feel that our board have taken the p*ss out of their own fans with this one. Our top assets will be poached and that is fair, the big companies always take the best of the smaller ones, such is life. Going on what has been written so far their is a divide between us and this is being well debated. What is evident is that the BFC board have just p*ssed off a number of their loyal supporters. I would be very surprised to see the home end sold out for all but a handful of games, last time around you could get tickets for most games if you wanted. One thing for certain is we will find out either way. UTC

Score: 5

AnotherPounding4Burnley says...8:36pm Tue 13 May 14

Chris P Bacon wrote…

'kinell, there's some RIGHT....good stuff being written on here! All the other threads have degenerated into your typical childish he-said-she-said nonsense but fans from both sides (moron apart - inevitably) are leaving club rivalries out of this one and concentrating on the REAL issues at hand. It's refreshing to see. I find myself in the unusual position of agreeing with both POVs. For Burnley to hope to compete at this much higher level, they'll have to charge accordingly and market forces dictate you must pay more for an improved product. However, to have to pay more and be messed about on KO times and days (not the club's fault this; they have to dance to the Premier's tune if they want the money) is adding insult to injury. There is another solution though. If you haven't bought yet, buy anyway and loan your tickets out on a full-cost basis. That way, you get to keep them in your name, can watch many games on the TV without inconvenience to you, arrange with the temporary ticket-holder to attend games they can't get to and everyone's a winner.

Theres nowt like sitting on the fence for fear of someone not liking you. Strange dude, not even a Burnley fan like the rest of us. Season ticket prices don't affect you, you have never had one at Burnley so, on yer bike sonnie

[quote][p][bold]Chris P Bacon[/bold] wrote:
'kinell, there's some RIGHT....good stuff being written on here! All the other threads have degenerated into your typical childish he-said-she-said nonsense but fans from both sides (moron apart - inevitably) are leaving club rivalries out of this one and concentrating on the REAL issues at hand. It's refreshing to see.
I find myself in the unusual position of agreeing with both POVs. For Burnley to hope to compete at this much higher level, they'll have to charge accordingly and market forces dictate you must pay more for an improved product. However, to have to pay more and be messed about on KO times and days (not the club's fault this; they have to dance to the Premier's tune if they want the money) is adding insult to injury.
There is another solution though. If you haven't bought yet, buy anyway and loan your tickets out on a full-cost basis. That way, you get to keep them in your name, can watch many games on the TV without inconvenience to you, arrange with the temporary ticket-holder to attend games they can't get to and everyone's a winner.[/p][/quote]Theres nowt like sitting on the fence for fear of someone not liking you. Strange dude, not even a Burnley fan like the rest of us.
Season ticket prices don't affect you, you have never had one at Burnley so, on yer bike sonnieAnotherPounding4Burnley

Chris P Bacon wrote…

'kinell, there's some RIGHT....good stuff being written on here! All the other threads have degenerated into your typical childish he-said-she-said nonsense but fans from both sides (moron apart - inevitably) are leaving club rivalries out of this one and concentrating on the REAL issues at hand. It's refreshing to see. I find myself in the unusual position of agreeing with both POVs. For Burnley to hope to compete at this much higher level, they'll have to charge accordingly and market forces dictate you must pay more for an improved product. However, to have to pay more and be messed about on KO times and days (not the club's fault this; they have to dance to the Premier's tune if they want the money) is adding insult to injury. There is another solution though. If you haven't bought yet, buy anyway and loan your tickets out on a full-cost basis. That way, you get to keep them in your name, can watch many games on the TV without inconvenience to you, arrange with the temporary ticket-holder to attend games they can't get to and everyone's a winner.

Theres nowt like sitting on the fence for fear of someone not liking you. Strange dude, not even a Burnley fan like the rest of us. Season ticket prices don't affect you, you have never had one at Burnley so, on yer bike sonnie

Score: -15

RobH2O says...10:21pm Tue 13 May 14

Come on Chris P. Leave it alone. Drop it. He/it/they are not worth the candle.

Come on Chris P. Leave it alone. Drop it. He/it/they are not worth the candle.RobH2O

Come on Chris P. Leave it alone. Drop it. He/it/they are not worth the candle.

Score: 5

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv says...10:25pm Tue 13 May 14

Super_Clarets wrote…

barlickmafia wrote…

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

Exactly. It's the price you pay for success. This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers. There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about. Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club. The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us. Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?

Very rarely do I venture to the dark side to pass comment but having actually read one of your posts all the way through for once, I thought it'd rude not to make comment on how your propaganda has become so intense, even the loyal Burnley contingent on here appear to have turned on your delusional bullsh*t. Does an extra few quid matter that much? Yeah, it does you complete tool. It's the whole principle. If you think paying £600 for a season ticket to support YOUR TEAM is is decent and fair you are clearly the pr*ck everyone thinks you are. It's an absolute disgrace that a club like Burnley's fortunate enough to land the Premier League loot and then increases it's prices to SIX HUNDRED POUNDS!!!! and that's the starting rate!!! I actually hope for the sake of the honest Burnley fans you have a decent season and don't get pummeled into oblivion - until I read your sh*t. Then I hope you are relegated by December and you get all the bad Karma you've created rammed back down your elongated neck. What I find also find hilarious (apart from your bunny boiling skills) is how you assume the weather will be warm and sunny when you play the likes of Chelsea or City and yet games against Brentford are always cold, wet and on a Tuesday night.... Now then, before you start another War & Peace 400 paragraph reply as to how Burnley won six games on the trot against us in 650AD, or how we'll be playing Sunday League in 2 seasons, don't bother wasting your time because I can assure you I won't be reading it

[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]barlickmafia[/bold] wrote:
This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in.
I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!!
Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!!
The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week.
The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season.
Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise.
These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.[/p][/quote]Exactly. It's the price you pay for success.
This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers.
There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about.
Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club.
The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us.
Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?[/p][/quote]Very rarely do I venture to the dark side to pass comment but having actually read one of your posts all the way through for once, I thought it'd rude not to make comment on how your propaganda has become so intense, even the loyal Burnley contingent on here appear to have turned on your delusional bullsh*t.
Does an extra few quid matter that much?
Yeah, it does you complete tool. It's the whole principle.
If you think paying £600 for a season ticket to support YOUR TEAM is is decent and fair you are clearly the pr*ck everyone thinks you are. It's an absolute disgrace that a club like Burnley's fortunate enough to land the Premier League loot and then increases it's prices to SIX HUNDRED POUNDS!!!! and that's the starting rate!!!
I actually hope for the sake of the honest Burnley fans you have a decent season and don't get pummeled into oblivion - until I read your sh*t. Then I hope you are relegated by December and you get all the bad Karma you've created rammed back down your elongated neck.
What I find also find hilarious (apart from your bunny boiling skills) is how you assume the weather will be warm and sunny when you play the likes of Chelsea or City and yet games against Brentford are always cold, wet and on a Tuesday night....
Now then, before you start another War & Peace 400 paragraph reply as to how Burnley won six games on the trot against us in 650AD, or how we'll be playing Sunday League in 2 seasons, don't bother wasting your time because I can assure you I won't be reading itmore bans than ray - brfc lxxv

Super_Clarets wrote…

barlickmafia wrote…

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

Exactly. It's the price you pay for success. This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers. There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about. Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club. The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us. Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?

Very rarely do I venture to the dark side to pass comment but having actually read one of your posts all the way through for once, I thought it'd rude not to make comment on how your propaganda has become so intense, even the loyal Burnley contingent on here appear to have turned on your delusional bullsh*t. Does an extra few quid matter that much? Yeah, it does you complete tool. It's the whole principle. If you think paying £600 for a season ticket to support YOUR TEAM is is decent and fair you are clearly the pr*ck everyone thinks you are. It's an absolute disgrace that a club like Burnley's fortunate enough to land the Premier League loot and then increases it's prices to SIX HUNDRED POUNDS!!!! and that's the starting rate!!! I actually hope for the sake of the honest Burnley fans you have a decent season and don't get pummeled into oblivion - until I read your sh*t. Then I hope you are relegated by December and you get all the bad Karma you've created rammed back down your elongated neck. What I find also find hilarious (apart from your bunny boiling skills) is how you assume the weather will be warm and sunny when you play the likes of Chelsea or City and yet games against Brentford are always cold, wet and on a Tuesday night.... Now then, before you start another War & Peace 400 paragraph reply as to how Burnley won six games on the trot against us in 650AD, or how we'll be playing Sunday League in 2 seasons, don't bother wasting your time because I can assure you I won't be reading it

Score: 11

burnleyfan4life says...10:34pm Tue 13 May 14

There must be an option not to take the renewal option?? My friend is emigrating to Australia in March next year - what good is that to him, some older fans may not be around?? - My Mother and Father got before the deadline - but my mother is ill with little prospect of her being around for the next year - these are real situations and there will be loads - We don't even know what the prices will be ?? They could go up by £100 again next year - then what the £100 vanishes?? Some people have to move area for work/family reasons etc etc - I am not having it that this only penalises the premiership glory hunters as a lot of fans simply could not commit to a season ticket before March 31st!!! (By the way I got my tickets before the deadline. There are many fans whom cannot go every game through work / family commitments - These people may go to say half the games every season. This is huge section of the support base that have not had a problem getting a ticket for the game on match day or the week before etc!! Now as we are in the premier league and all of a sudden tickets will become scarce and there thinking is, is to buy a season ticket to ensure a seat. As I can recall from being in this category last time - I often could not get a ticket and if I could struggled to get 3 or 4 together and definately not in a good location - When promotion was achieved a lot of fans that would not normally have bought a season ticket will then want one as they know that a ticket will be harder to get next year - These are not 'glory hunters' these are peolpe that bleed claret and are live long supporters - The are the one that have to carry the financial burden the most - Shame on the board!!

There must be an option not to take the renewal option?? My friend is emigrating to Australia in March next year - what good is that to him, some older fans may not be around?? - My Mother and Father got before the deadline - but my mother is ill with little prospect of her being around for the next year - these are real situations and there will be loads - We don't even know what the prices will be ?? They could go up by £100 again next year - then what the £100 vanishes?? Some people have to move area for work/family reasons etc etc -
I am not having it that this only penalises the premiership glory hunters as a lot of fans simply could not commit to a season ticket before March 31st!!! (By the way I got my tickets before the deadline.
There are many fans whom cannot go every game through work / family commitments - These people may go to say half the games every season. This is huge section of the support base that have not had a problem getting a ticket for the game on match day or the week before etc!! Now as we are in the premier league and all of a sudden tickets will become scarce and there thinking is, is to buy a season ticket to ensure a seat.
As I can recall from being in this category last time - I often could not get a ticket and if I could struggled to get 3 or 4 together and definately not in a good location - When promotion was achieved a lot of fans that would not normally have bought a season ticket will then want one as they know that a ticket will be harder to get next year - These are not 'glory hunters' these are peolpe that bleed claret and are live long supporters - The are the one that have to carry the financial burden the most - Shame on the board!!burnleyfan4life

There must be an option not to take the renewal option?? My friend is emigrating to Australia in March next year - what good is that to him, some older fans may not be around?? - My Mother and Father got before the deadline - but my mother is ill with little prospect of her being around for the next year - these are real situations and there will be loads - We don't even know what the prices will be ?? They could go up by £100 again next year - then what the £100 vanishes?? Some people have to move area for work/family reasons etc etc - I am not having it that this only penalises the premiership glory hunters as a lot of fans simply could not commit to a season ticket before March 31st!!! (By the way I got my tickets before the deadline. There are many fans whom cannot go every game through work / family commitments - These people may go to say half the games every season. This is huge section of the support base that have not had a problem getting a ticket for the game on match day or the week before etc!! Now as we are in the premier league and all of a sudden tickets will become scarce and there thinking is, is to buy a season ticket to ensure a seat. As I can recall from being in this category last time - I often could not get a ticket and if I could struggled to get 3 or 4 together and definately not in a good location - When promotion was achieved a lot of fans that would not normally have bought a season ticket will then want one as they know that a ticket will be harder to get next year - These are not 'glory hunters' these are peolpe that bleed claret and are live long supporters - The are the one that have to carry the financial burden the most - Shame on the board!!

Score: 2

wilddog says...11:31pm Tue 13 May 14

wilddog wrote…

trouble is, Burnley are a small club and you guys expect the cream of the crop to play at your place(would say ground) but its never ever changed! The seats always remind me of the old tipler toilets that people used to have in their back yards. Maybe, BFC bought them all in a cheap deal?

truth hurts dont it?

[quote][p][bold]wilddog[/bold] wrote:
trouble is, Burnley are a small club and you guys expect the cream of the crop to play at your place(would say ground) but its never ever changed! The seats always remind me of the old tipler toilets that people used to have in their back yards. Maybe, BFC bought them all in a cheap deal?[/p][/quote]truth hurts dont it?wilddog

wilddog wrote…

trouble is, Burnley are a small club and you guys expect the cream of the crop to play at your place(would say ground) but its never ever changed! The seats always remind me of the old tipler toilets that people used to have in their back yards. Maybe, BFC bought them all in a cheap deal?

truth hurts dont it?

Score: -3

Chris P Bacon says...6:03am Wed 14 May 14

wilddog wrote…

wilddog wrote…

trouble is, Burnley are a small club and you guys expect the cream of the crop to play at your place(would say ground) but its never ever changed! The seats always remind me of the old tipler toilets that people used to have in their back yards. Maybe, BFC bought them all in a cheap deal?

truth hurts dont it?

The truth is, you\re replying to your own posts. Now if that doesn't hurt, the concept of shame is an alien one to you.

[quote][p][bold]wilddog[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wilddog[/bold] wrote:
trouble is, Burnley are a small club and you guys expect the cream of the crop to play at your place(would say ground) but its never ever changed! The seats always remind me of the old tipler toilets that people used to have in their back yards. Maybe, BFC bought them all in a cheap deal?[/p][/quote]truth hurts dont it?[/p][/quote]The truth is, you\re replying to your own posts. Now if that doesn't hurt, the concept of shame is an alien one to you.Chris P Bacon

wilddog wrote…

wilddog wrote…

trouble is, Burnley are a small club and you guys expect the cream of the crop to play at your place(would say ground) but its never ever changed! The seats always remind me of the old tipler toilets that people used to have in their back yards. Maybe, BFC bought them all in a cheap deal?

truth hurts dont it?

The truth is, you\re replying to your own posts. Now if that doesn't hurt, the concept of shame is an alien one to you.

Score: 10

Chris P Bacon says...6:10am Wed 14 May 14

RobH2O wrote…

Come on Chris P. Leave it alone. Drop it. He/it/they are not worth the candle.

I assume that's in relation to sicko replying to my post above? I keep that fick suck on ignore now so as not to risk contamination from his subterranean ignorance. If we'd all do that, these threads would consist only of him catching his own throws.

[quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote:
Come on Chris P. Leave it alone. Drop it. He/it/they are not worth the candle.[/p][/quote]I assume that's in relation to sicko replying to my post above? I keep that fick suck on ignore now so as not to risk contamination from his subterranean ignorance. If we'd all do that, these threads would consist only of him catching his own throws.Chris P Bacon

RobH2O wrote…

Come on Chris P. Leave it alone. Drop it. He/it/they are not worth the candle.

I assume that's in relation to sicko replying to my post above? I keep that fick suck on ignore now so as not to risk contamination from his subterranean ignorance. If we'd all do that, these threads would consist only of him catching his own throws.

Score: 10

houseclaret says...8:34am Wed 14 May 14

slants wrote…

House claret lol what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah. The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.

Take it your a Rovers fan then. Are you another side to fake idiot? What is it with Rovers fans pretending to be Clarets. Go and play somewhere else will you.

[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
House claret lol
what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah.
The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.[/p][/quote]Take it your a Rovers fan then. Are you another side to fake idiot? What is it with Rovers fans pretending to be Clarets. Go and play somewhere else will you.houseclaret

slants wrote…

House claret lol what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah. The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.

Take it your a Rovers fan then. Are you another side to fake idiot? What is it with Rovers fans pretending to be Clarets. Go and play somewhere else will you.

Score: 4

houseclaret says...8:43am Wed 14 May 14

BelTower wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

BelTower wrote…

TurfMoorTom wrote…

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.

Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.

A football club should be a football club first and a business second. If we lose sight of that we lose sight of the word "sport". Don't forget, unlike "real" businesses, if football disappeared tomorrow the world would go on pretty much as it always has. It's actually not that important (my wife absolutely hates the game). It's only important if you are a football fan (as I am) and when it becomes a business that shuts the doors on it's dedicated customers in order to make more money then we have lost sight of what it actually is in the first place - a pastime. If you really love your club, whether it be Burnley, Rovers or No-Name Athletic, you shouldn't have to be forced to pay for season tickets just to attend a game, especially when there will be, for most games, hundreds of empty seats that can't be sold. That isn't even good business sense. For what it's worth, I've spent the last 25 years in marketing so I have a pretty good idea what makes business sense and what is happening at Burnley here is just greed.

Meanwhile......back in the real world.

So what is football? Is it a sport/pastime or is it a business? It only became a business with the advent of the cash cow that is the prem. It had to become a business when agents started demanding ridiculous amounts of money for players wages. In your "real world" teams like Burnley, Rovers etc. will exist just to feed players to the half dozen clubs who have realistic chances of actually winning anything. Are you not sick to death of living off the scraps from the "big clubs" table? There needs to be a revolution in football in order to bring some sanity back to it. Real world my backside!!!

[quote][p][bold]BelTower[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]BelTower[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoorTom[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]BelTower[/bold] wrote:
My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"[/p][/quote]You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.[/p][/quote]Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.[/p][/quote]A football club should be a football club first and a business second. If we lose sight of that we lose sight of the word "sport". Don't forget, unlike "real" businesses, if football disappeared tomorrow the world would go on pretty much as it always has. It's actually not that important (my wife absolutely hates the game). It's only important if you are a football fan (as I am) and when it becomes a business that shuts the doors on it's dedicated customers in order to make more money then we have lost sight of what it actually is in the first place - a pastime. If you really love your club, whether it be Burnley, Rovers or No-Name Athletic, you shouldn't have to be forced to pay for season tickets just to attend a game, especially when there will be, for most games, hundreds of empty seats that can't be sold. That isn't even good business sense. For what it's worth, I've spent the last 25 years in marketing so I have a pretty good idea what makes business sense and what is happening at Burnley here is just greed.[/p][/quote]Meanwhile......back in the real world.[/p][/quote]So what is football? Is it a sport/pastime or is it a business? It only became a business with the advent of the cash cow that is the prem. It had to become a business when agents started demanding ridiculous amounts of money for players wages. In your "real world" teams like Burnley, Rovers etc. will exist just to feed players to the half dozen clubs who have realistic chances of actually winning anything. Are you not sick to death of living off the scraps from the "big clubs" table? There needs to be a revolution in football in order to bring some sanity back to it. Real world my backside!!!houseclaret

BelTower wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

BelTower wrote…

TurfMoorTom wrote…

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.

Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.

A football club should be a football club first and a business second. If we lose sight of that we lose sight of the word "sport". Don't forget, unlike "real" businesses, if football disappeared tomorrow the world would go on pretty much as it always has. It's actually not that important (my wife absolutely hates the game). It's only important if you are a football fan (as I am) and when it becomes a business that shuts the doors on it's dedicated customers in order to make more money then we have lost sight of what it actually is in the first place - a pastime. If you really love your club, whether it be Burnley, Rovers or No-Name Athletic, you shouldn't have to be forced to pay for season tickets just to attend a game, especially when there will be, for most games, hundreds of empty seats that can't be sold. That isn't even good business sense. For what it's worth, I've spent the last 25 years in marketing so I have a pretty good idea what makes business sense and what is happening at Burnley here is just greed.

Meanwhile......back in the real world.

So what is football? Is it a sport/pastime or is it a business? It only became a business with the advent of the cash cow that is the prem. It had to become a business when agents started demanding ridiculous amounts of money for players wages. In your "real world" teams like Burnley, Rovers etc. will exist just to feed players to the half dozen clubs who have realistic chances of actually winning anything. Are you not sick to death of living off the scraps from the "big clubs" table? There needs to be a revolution in football in order to bring some sanity back to it. Real world my backside!!!

Score: 0

houseclaret says...8:58am Wed 14 May 14

tall in the saddle wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

barlickmafia wrote…

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

Exactly. It's the price you pay for success. This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers. There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about. Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club. The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us. Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?

But Super, what if the "price of success" is not being able to get to a game at all if you don't have a season ticket, is that a price worth paying? And is it the best league in the world? I doubt it. Look at the Bundesliga. Look at the league that is providing BOTH finalists in the Champions league (and one of them ISN'T Barcelona). Just because it's English doesn't mean it's the best. It's just the best marketed league in the world with hype from the media that would make Beyonce blush. And with 70% foreign players, is it truly an English league? Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of what we have achieved and you're right about the visiting teams, but I am afraid that I won't be able to watch the team I have supported for 50 years due to pampering to the over-hyped and massively over financed Premier League.

You sound like we should be in League One so you can see a game. This is rubbish. If you can’t get a ticket it’s bad luck- one of them things. I hope you can get in, but you can’t halt progress for these kind of reasons. The foreign leagues you mention do CURRENTLY have better teams at the top of their leagues but the leagues are not as good. Why do you think MOST foreign players want to play in the Premier League – because it’s the best to play in and the most exciting. Of course wages are higher here also (there are anomalies like Ronaldo etc at Real Madrid) but generally. Because wages are so high in the EPL Burnley has to try to make as much as they can in order to attract a few so they can stay in the league. I for one am all for it.

Try watching the Budesliga for example. The standard is generally higher and the league is more competitive. The reason foreign players want to play here is simply because of the money, nothing else. If you really believe that they come here for any other reason you are living in wonderland. You are, unfortunately, a victim of the very over-hype that I have been talking about. The truth is money is KILLING our game and real football competition is dying, if not already dead. 5 different champions in over 20 years of them prem says it all mate.

[quote][p][bold]tall in the saddle[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]barlickmafia[/bold] wrote:
This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in.
I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!!
Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!!
The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week.
The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season.
Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise.
These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.[/p][/quote]Exactly. It's the price you pay for success.
This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers.
There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about.
Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club.
The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us.
Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?[/p][/quote]But Super, what if the "price of success" is not being able to get to a game at all if you don't have a season ticket, is that a price worth paying? And is it the best league in the world? I doubt it. Look at the Bundesliga. Look at the league that is providing BOTH finalists in the Champions league (and one of them ISN'T Barcelona). Just because it's English doesn't mean it's the best. It's just the best marketed league in the world with hype from the media that would make Beyonce blush. And with 70% foreign players, is it truly an English league? Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of what we have achieved and you're right about the visiting teams, but I am afraid that I won't be able to watch the team I have supported for 50 years due to pampering to the over-hyped and massively over financed Premier League.[/p][/quote]You sound like we should be in League One so you can see a game. This is rubbish. If you can’t get a ticket it’s bad luck- one of them things. I hope you can get in, but you can’t halt progress for these kind of reasons. The foreign leagues you mention do CURRENTLY have better teams at the top of their leagues but the leagues are not as good. Why do you think MOST foreign players want to play in the Premier League – because it’s the best to play in and the most exciting. Of course wages are higher here also (there are anomalies like Ronaldo etc at Real Madrid) but generally. Because wages are so high in the EPL Burnley has to try to make as much as they can in order to attract a few so they can stay in the league. I for one am all for it.[/p][/quote]Try watching the Budesliga for example. The standard is generally higher and the league is more competitive. The reason foreign players want to play here is simply because of the money, nothing else. If you really believe that they come here for any other reason you are living in wonderland. You are, unfortunately, a victim of the very over-hype that I have been talking about. The truth is money is KILLING our game and real football competition is dying, if not already dead. 5 different champions in over 20 years of them prem says it all mate.houseclaret

tall in the saddle wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

barlickmafia wrote…

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

Exactly. It's the price you pay for success. This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers. There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about. Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club. The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us. Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?

But Super, what if the "price of success" is not being able to get to a game at all if you don't have a season ticket, is that a price worth paying? And is it the best league in the world? I doubt it. Look at the Bundesliga. Look at the league that is providing BOTH finalists in the Champions league (and one of them ISN'T Barcelona). Just because it's English doesn't mean it's the best. It's just the best marketed league in the world with hype from the media that would make Beyonce blush. And with 70% foreign players, is it truly an English league? Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of what we have achieved and you're right about the visiting teams, but I am afraid that I won't be able to watch the team I have supported for 50 years due to pampering to the over-hyped and massively over financed Premier League.

You sound like we should be in League One so you can see a game. This is rubbish. If you can’t get a ticket it’s bad luck- one of them things. I hope you can get in, but you can’t halt progress for these kind of reasons. The foreign leagues you mention do CURRENTLY have better teams at the top of their leagues but the leagues are not as good. Why do you think MOST foreign players want to play in the Premier League – because it’s the best to play in and the most exciting. Of course wages are higher here also (there are anomalies like Ronaldo etc at Real Madrid) but generally. Because wages are so high in the EPL Burnley has to try to make as much as they can in order to attract a few so they can stay in the league. I for one am all for it.

Try watching the Budesliga for example. The standard is generally higher and the league is more competitive. The reason foreign players want to play here is simply because of the money, nothing else. If you really believe that they come here for any other reason you are living in wonderland. You are, unfortunately, a victim of the very over-hype that I have been talking about. The truth is money is KILLING our game and real football competition is dying, if not already dead. 5 different champions in over 20 years of them prem says it all mate.

Score: 0

tall in the saddle says...10:26am Wed 14 May 14

slants wrote…

tall in the saddle wrote…

Just heard Adrian Durham on Talk Sports giving the thumbs down to Burnley fans for moaning about the price increase on tickets. Love or loathe him he’s right on this one. As he correctly points out the prices was the same as last season if tickets were bought before March 31st. As he also correctly points out most fans would expect to pay more for premier league football than Championship.

does any sane person listen to that drivel station unreal.Who is adrian ?????

It’s a sports station you know. If you don’t listen how do you know its drivel? What do you listen to Radio 3?

[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tall in the saddle[/bold] wrote:
Just heard Adrian Durham on Talk Sports giving the thumbs down to Burnley fans for moaning about the price increase on tickets. Love or loathe him he’s right on this one. As he correctly points out the prices was the same as last season if tickets were bought before March 31st. As he also correctly points out most fans would expect to pay more for premier league football than Championship.[/p][/quote]does any sane person listen to that drivel station unreal.Who is adrian ?????[/p][/quote]It’s a sports station you know. If you don’t listen how do you know its drivel? What do you listen to Radio 3?tall in the saddle

slants wrote…

tall in the saddle wrote…

Just heard Adrian Durham on Talk Sports giving the thumbs down to Burnley fans for moaning about the price increase on tickets. Love or loathe him he’s right on this one. As he correctly points out the prices was the same as last season if tickets were bought before March 31st. As he also correctly points out most fans would expect to pay more for premier league football than Championship.

does any sane person listen to that drivel station unreal.Who is adrian ?????

It’s a sports station you know. If you don’t listen how do you know its drivel? What do you listen to Radio 3?

Score: 3

tall in the saddle says...10:36am Wed 14 May 14

Chris P Bacon wrote…

wilddog wrote…

wilddog wrote…

trouble is, Burnley are a small club and you guys expect the cream of the crop to play at your place(would say ground) but its never ever changed! The seats always remind me of the old tipler toilets that people used to have in their back yards. Maybe, BFC bought them all in a cheap deal?

truth hurts dont it?

The truth is, you\re replying to your own posts. Now if that doesn't hurt, the concept of shame is an alien one to you.

Nothing to say you see down at the Chicken Farm, Gary’s hibernated for the summer. They are so intrigued by what is happening at Burnley. Look how many of them have posted on this thread and it doesn’t affect or concern them at all them at all. They are even posting about Burnley on Blackburn threads. They hold Sean Dyche in so high esteem that they are dying to know who he’s going to sign and what he’s going to do.

[quote][p][bold]Chris P Bacon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wilddog[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wilddog[/bold] wrote:
trouble is, Burnley are a small club and you guys expect the cream of the crop to play at your place(would say ground) but its never ever changed! The seats always remind me of the old tipler toilets that people used to have in their back yards. Maybe, BFC bought them all in a cheap deal?[/p][/quote]truth hurts dont it?[/p][/quote]The truth is, you\re replying to your own posts. Now if that doesn't hurt, the concept of shame is an alien one to you.[/p][/quote]Nothing to say you see down at the Chicken Farm, Gary’s hibernated for the summer. They are so intrigued by what is happening at Burnley. Look how many of them have posted on this thread and it doesn’t affect or concern them at all them at all. They are even posting about Burnley on Blackburn threads. They hold Sean Dyche in so high esteem that they are dying to know who he’s going to sign and what he’s going to do.tall in the saddle

Chris P Bacon wrote…

wilddog wrote…

wilddog wrote…

trouble is, Burnley are a small club and you guys expect the cream of the crop to play at your place(would say ground) but its never ever changed! The seats always remind me of the old tipler toilets that people used to have in their back yards. Maybe, BFC bought them all in a cheap deal?

truth hurts dont it?

The truth is, you\re replying to your own posts. Now if that doesn't hurt, the concept of shame is an alien one to you.

Nothing to say you see down at the Chicken Farm, Gary’s hibernated for the summer. They are so intrigued by what is happening at Burnley. Look how many of them have posted on this thread and it doesn’t affect or concern them at all them at all. They are even posting about Burnley on Blackburn threads. They hold Sean Dyche in so high esteem that they are dying to know who he’s going to sign and what he’s going to do.

Score: 3

tall in the saddle says...10:57am Wed 14 May 14

houseclaret wrote…

tall in the saddle wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

barlickmafia wrote…

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

Exactly. It's the price you pay for success. This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers. There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about. Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club. The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us. Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?

But Super, what if the "price of success" is not being able to get to a game at all if you don't have a season ticket, is that a price worth paying? And is it the best league in the world? I doubt it. Look at the Bundesliga. Look at the league that is providing BOTH finalists in the Champions league (and one of them ISN'T Barcelona). Just because it's English doesn't mean it's the best. It's just the best marketed league in the world with hype from the media that would make Beyonce blush. And with 70% foreign players, is it truly an English league? Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of what we have achieved and you're right about the visiting teams, but I am afraid that I won't be able to watch the team I have supported for 50 years due to pampering to the over-hyped and massively over financed Premier League.

You sound like we should be in League One so you can see a game. This is rubbish. If you can’t get a ticket it’s bad luck- one of them things. I hope you can get in, but you can’t halt progress for these kind of reasons. The foreign leagues you mention do CURRENTLY have better teams at the top of their leagues but the leagues are not as good. Why do you think MOST foreign players want to play in the Premier League – because it’s the best to play in and the most exciting. Of course wages are higher here also (there are anomalies like Ronaldo etc at Real Madrid) but generally. Because wages are so high in the EPL Burnley has to try to make as much as they can in order to attract a few so they can stay in the league. I for one am all for it.

Try watching the Budesliga for example. The standard is generally higher and the league is more competitive. The reason foreign players want to play here is simply because of the money, nothing else. If you really believe that they come here for any other reason you are living in wonderland. You are, unfortunately, a victim of the very over-hype that I have been talking about. The truth is money is KILLING our game and real football competition is dying, if not already dead. 5 different champions in over 20 years of them prem says it all mate.

I am not a victim of over hype at all. I am a Burnley fan and delighted to see them in the PL and looking forward to seeing some top players along with our own top players at Turf Moor this coming season. I have watched Bundesliga and the standard is fine but it’s not my team or my football. I agree with you too much money in the game but look stadiums are full. Waiting lists for tickets at many PL clubs. I would dearly like to change it and restore the old order but it’s gone. To its immense credit the Bundesliga has kept ticket prices down so that the working man can still afford to see the matches. Could you see the FA lobbying to introduce a maximum price for PL clubs match tickets? Not a chance. The top six or seven clubs are greedy and would break away and form a new league. As you say all about money. Just like the rest of our society.

[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tall in the saddle[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]barlickmafia[/bold] wrote:
This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in.
I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!!
Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!!
The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week.
The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season.
Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise.
These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.[/p][/quote]Exactly. It's the price you pay for success.
This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers.
There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about.
Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club.
The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us.
Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?[/p][/quote]But Super, what if the "price of success" is not being able to get to a game at all if you don't have a season ticket, is that a price worth paying? And is it the best league in the world? I doubt it. Look at the Bundesliga. Look at the league that is providing BOTH finalists in the Champions league (and one of them ISN'T Barcelona). Just because it's English doesn't mean it's the best. It's just the best marketed league in the world with hype from the media that would make Beyonce blush. And with 70% foreign players, is it truly an English league? Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of what we have achieved and you're right about the visiting teams, but I am afraid that I won't be able to watch the team I have supported for 50 years due to pampering to the over-hyped and massively over financed Premier League.[/p][/quote]You sound like we should be in League One so you can see a game. This is rubbish. If you can’t get a ticket it’s bad luck- one of them things. I hope you can get in, but you can’t halt progress for these kind of reasons. The foreign leagues you mention do CURRENTLY have better teams at the top of their leagues but the leagues are not as good. Why do you think MOST foreign players want to play in the Premier League – because it’s the best to play in and the most exciting. Of course wages are higher here also (there are anomalies like Ronaldo etc at Real Madrid) but generally. Because wages are so high in the EPL Burnley has to try to make as much as they can in order to attract a few so they can stay in the league. I for one am all for it.[/p][/quote]Try watching the Budesliga for example. The standard is generally higher and the league is more competitive. The reason foreign players want to play here is simply because of the money, nothing else. If you really believe that they come here for any other reason you are living in wonderland. You are, unfortunately, a victim of the very over-hype that I have been talking about. The truth is money is KILLING our game and real football competition is dying, if not already dead. 5 different champions in over 20 years of them prem says it all mate.[/p][/quote]I am not a victim of over hype at all. I am a Burnley fan and delighted to see them in the PL and looking forward to seeing some top players along with our own top players at Turf Moor this coming season. I have watched Bundesliga and the standard is fine but it’s not my team or my football. I agree with you too much money in the game but look stadiums are full. Waiting lists for tickets at many PL clubs. I would dearly like to change it and restore the old order but it’s gone. To its immense credit the Bundesliga has kept ticket prices down so that the working man can still afford to see the matches. Could you see the FA lobbying to introduce a maximum price for PL clubs match tickets? Not a chance. The top six or seven clubs are greedy and would break away and form a new league. As you say all about money. Just like the rest of our society.tall in the saddle

houseclaret wrote…

tall in the saddle wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

barlickmafia wrote…

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

Exactly. It's the price you pay for success. This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers. There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about. Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club. The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us. Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?

But Super, what if the "price of success" is not being able to get to a game at all if you don't have a season ticket, is that a price worth paying? And is it the best league in the world? I doubt it. Look at the Bundesliga. Look at the league that is providing BOTH finalists in the Champions league (and one of them ISN'T Barcelona). Just because it's English doesn't mean it's the best. It's just the best marketed league in the world with hype from the media that would make Beyonce blush. And with 70% foreign players, is it truly an English league? Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of what we have achieved and you're right about the visiting teams, but I am afraid that I won't be able to watch the team I have supported for 50 years due to pampering to the over-hyped and massively over financed Premier League.

You sound like we should be in League One so you can see a game. This is rubbish. If you can’t get a ticket it’s bad luck- one of them things. I hope you can get in, but you can’t halt progress for these kind of reasons. The foreign leagues you mention do CURRENTLY have better teams at the top of their leagues but the leagues are not as good. Why do you think MOST foreign players want to play in the Premier League – because it’s the best to play in and the most exciting. Of course wages are higher here also (there are anomalies like Ronaldo etc at Real Madrid) but generally. Because wages are so high in the EPL Burnley has to try to make as much as they can in order to attract a few so they can stay in the league. I for one am all for it.

Try watching the Budesliga for example. The standard is generally higher and the league is more competitive. The reason foreign players want to play here is simply because of the money, nothing else. If you really believe that they come here for any other reason you are living in wonderland. You are, unfortunately, a victim of the very over-hype that I have been talking about. The truth is money is KILLING our game and real football competition is dying, if not already dead. 5 different champions in over 20 years of them prem says it all mate.

I am not a victim of over hype at all. I am a Burnley fan and delighted to see them in the PL and looking forward to seeing some top players along with our own top players at Turf Moor this coming season. I have watched Bundesliga and the standard is fine but it’s not my team or my football. I agree with you too much money in the game but look stadiums are full. Waiting lists for tickets at many PL clubs. I would dearly like to change it and restore the old order but it’s gone. To its immense credit the Bundesliga has kept ticket prices down so that the working man can still afford to see the matches. Could you see the FA lobbying to introduce a maximum price for PL clubs match tickets? Not a chance. The top six or seven clubs are greedy and would break away and form a new league. As you say all about money. Just like the rest of our society.

Score: 1

Pompey Claret says...11:44am Wed 14 May 14

BelTower wrote…

TurfMoorTom wrote…

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.

Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.

He isn't a Claret Beltower just fool who also claims to be a BR fan

[quote][p][bold]BelTower[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoorTom[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]BelTower[/bold] wrote:
My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"[/p][/quote]You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.[/p][/quote]Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.[/p][/quote]He isn't a Claret Beltower just fool who also claims to be a BR fanPompey Claret

BelTower wrote…

TurfMoorTom wrote…

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.

Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.

He isn't a Claret Beltower just fool who also claims to be a BR fan

Score: 1

houseclaret says...12:05pm Wed 14 May 14

tall in the saddle wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

tall in the saddle wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

barlickmafia wrote…

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

Exactly. It's the price you pay for success. This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers. There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about. Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club. The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us. Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?

But Super, what if the "price of success" is not being able to get to a game at all if you don't have a season ticket, is that a price worth paying? And is it the best league in the world? I doubt it. Look at the Bundesliga. Look at the league that is providing BOTH finalists in the Champions league (and one of them ISN'T Barcelona). Just because it's English doesn't mean it's the best. It's just the best marketed league in the world with hype from the media that would make Beyonce blush. And with 70% foreign players, is it truly an English league? Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of what we have achieved and you're right about the visiting teams, but I am afraid that I won't be able to watch the team I have supported for 50 years due to pampering to the over-hyped and massively over financed Premier League.

You sound like we should be in League One so you can see a game. This is rubbish. If you can’t get a ticket it’s bad luck- one of them things. I hope you can get in, but you can’t halt progress for these kind of reasons. The foreign leagues you mention do CURRENTLY have better teams at the top of their leagues but the leagues are not as good. Why do you think MOST foreign players want to play in the Premier League – because it’s the best to play in and the most exciting. Of course wages are higher here also (there are anomalies like Ronaldo etc at Real Madrid) but generally. Because wages are so high in the EPL Burnley has to try to make as much as they can in order to attract a few so they can stay in the league. I for one am all for it.

Try watching the Budesliga for example. The standard is generally higher and the league is more competitive. The reason foreign players want to play here is simply because of the money, nothing else. If you really believe that they come here for any other reason you are living in wonderland. You are, unfortunately, a victim of the very over-hype that I have been talking about. The truth is money is KILLING our game and real football competition is dying, if not already dead. 5 different champions in over 20 years of them prem says it all mate.

I am not a victim of over hype at all. I am a Burnley fan and delighted to see them in the PL and looking forward to seeing some top players along with our own top players at Turf Moor this coming season. I have watched Bundesliga and the standard is fine but it’s not my team or my football. I agree with you too much money in the game but look stadiums are full. Waiting lists for tickets at many PL clubs. I would dearly like to change it and restore the old order but it’s gone. To its immense credit the Bundesliga has kept ticket prices down so that the working man can still afford to see the matches. Could you see the FA lobbying to introduce a maximum price for PL clubs match tickets? Not a chance. The top six or seven clubs are greedy and would break away and form a new league. As you say all about money. Just like the rest of our society.

I think we can agree on most points. It's a bit of a shame that the whole situation has got fellow Clarets arguing with one another. Incidentally did you see the point about Bayern Munich? £110 season ticket to watch one of the best clubs in the world. Now that's what I call value for money (ha ha). I'll still be on the Turf next season, if I can get a ticket. I suppose these days being in love with a football club is like having a high maintainance wife, a hard cross to bear.

[quote][p][bold]tall in the saddle[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tall in the saddle[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]barlickmafia[/bold] wrote:
This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in.
I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!!
Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!!
The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week.
The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season.
Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise.
These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.[/p][/quote]Exactly. It's the price you pay for success.
This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers.
There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about.
Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club.
The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us.
Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?[/p][/quote]But Super, what if the "price of success" is not being able to get to a game at all if you don't have a season ticket, is that a price worth paying? And is it the best league in the world? I doubt it. Look at the Bundesliga. Look at the league that is providing BOTH finalists in the Champions league (and one of them ISN'T Barcelona). Just because it's English doesn't mean it's the best. It's just the best marketed league in the world with hype from the media that would make Beyonce blush. And with 70% foreign players, is it truly an English league? Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of what we have achieved and you're right about the visiting teams, but I am afraid that I won't be able to watch the team I have supported for 50 years due to pampering to the over-hyped and massively over financed Premier League.[/p][/quote]You sound like we should be in League One so you can see a game. This is rubbish. If you can’t get a ticket it’s bad luck- one of them things. I hope you can get in, but you can’t halt progress for these kind of reasons. The foreign leagues you mention do CURRENTLY have better teams at the top of their leagues but the leagues are not as good. Why do you think MOST foreign players want to play in the Premier League – because it’s the best to play in and the most exciting. Of course wages are higher here also (there are anomalies like Ronaldo etc at Real Madrid) but generally. Because wages are so high in the EPL Burnley has to try to make as much as they can in order to attract a few so they can stay in the league. I for one am all for it.[/p][/quote]Try watching the Budesliga for example. The standard is generally higher and the league is more competitive. The reason foreign players want to play here is simply because of the money, nothing else. If you really believe that they come here for any other reason you are living in wonderland. You are, unfortunately, a victim of the very over-hype that I have been talking about. The truth is money is KILLING our game and real football competition is dying, if not already dead. 5 different champions in over 20 years of them prem says it all mate.[/p][/quote]I am not a victim of over hype at all. I am a Burnley fan and delighted to see them in the PL and looking forward to seeing some top players along with our own top players at Turf Moor this coming season. I have watched Bundesliga and the standard is fine but it’s not my team or my football. I agree with you too much money in the game but look stadiums are full. Waiting lists for tickets at many PL clubs. I would dearly like to change it and restore the old order but it’s gone. To its immense credit the Bundesliga has kept ticket prices down so that the working man can still afford to see the matches. Could you see the FA lobbying to introduce a maximum price for PL clubs match tickets? Not a chance. The top six or seven clubs are greedy and would break away and form a new league. As you say all about money. Just like the rest of our society.[/p][/quote]I think we can agree on most points. It's a bit of a shame that the whole situation has got fellow Clarets arguing with one another.
Incidentally did you see the point about Bayern Munich? £110 season ticket to watch one of the best clubs in the world. Now that's what I call value for money (ha ha).
I'll still be on the Turf next season, if I can get a ticket. I suppose these days being in love with a football club is like having a high maintainance wife, a hard cross to bear.houseclaret

tall in the saddle wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

tall in the saddle wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

barlickmafia wrote…

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

Exactly. It's the price you pay for success. This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers. There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about. Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club. The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us. Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?

But Super, what if the "price of success" is not being able to get to a game at all if you don't have a season ticket, is that a price worth paying? And is it the best league in the world? I doubt it. Look at the Bundesliga. Look at the league that is providing BOTH finalists in the Champions league (and one of them ISN'T Barcelona). Just because it's English doesn't mean it's the best. It's just the best marketed league in the world with hype from the media that would make Beyonce blush. And with 70% foreign players, is it truly an English league? Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of what we have achieved and you're right about the visiting teams, but I am afraid that I won't be able to watch the team I have supported for 50 years due to pampering to the over-hyped and massively over financed Premier League.

You sound like we should be in League One so you can see a game. This is rubbish. If you can’t get a ticket it’s bad luck- one of them things. I hope you can get in, but you can’t halt progress for these kind of reasons. The foreign leagues you mention do CURRENTLY have better teams at the top of their leagues but the leagues are not as good. Why do you think MOST foreign players want to play in the Premier League – because it’s the best to play in and the most exciting. Of course wages are higher here also (there are anomalies like Ronaldo etc at Real Madrid) but generally. Because wages are so high in the EPL Burnley has to try to make as much as they can in order to attract a few so they can stay in the league. I for one am all for it.

Try watching the Budesliga for example. The standard is generally higher and the league is more competitive. The reason foreign players want to play here is simply because of the money, nothing else. If you really believe that they come here for any other reason you are living in wonderland. You are, unfortunately, a victim of the very over-hype that I have been talking about. The truth is money is KILLING our game and real football competition is dying, if not already dead. 5 different champions in over 20 years of them prem says it all mate.

I am not a victim of over hype at all. I am a Burnley fan and delighted to see them in the PL and looking forward to seeing some top players along with our own top players at Turf Moor this coming season. I have watched Bundesliga and the standard is fine but it’s not my team or my football. I agree with you too much money in the game but look stadiums are full. Waiting lists for tickets at many PL clubs. I would dearly like to change it and restore the old order but it’s gone. To its immense credit the Bundesliga has kept ticket prices down so that the working man can still afford to see the matches. Could you see the FA lobbying to introduce a maximum price for PL clubs match tickets? Not a chance. The top six or seven clubs are greedy and would break away and form a new league. As you say all about money. Just like the rest of our society.

I think we can agree on most points. It's a bit of a shame that the whole situation has got fellow Clarets arguing with one another. Incidentally did you see the point about Bayern Munich? £110 season ticket to watch one of the best clubs in the world. Now that's what I call value for money (ha ha). I'll still be on the Turf next season, if I can get a ticket. I suppose these days being in love with a football club is like having a high maintainance wife, a hard cross to bear.

Score: 1

slants says...1:43pm Wed 14 May 14

houseclaret wrote…

slants wrote…

House claret lol what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah. The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.

Take it your a Rovers fan then. Are you another side to fake idiot? What is it with Rovers fans pretending to be Clarets. Go and play somewhere else will you.

this moron must work in the press office at Burnley with his stargazing attitude hahahahaha.Like most of these fools if you disagree with their total bullshhiit they say you are a jibbs fan bizarre. The corrupt diving league last time was total boredom.

[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
House claret lol
what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah.
The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.[/p][/quote]Take it your a Rovers fan then. Are you another side to fake idiot? What is it with Rovers fans pretending to be Clarets. Go and play somewhere else will you.[/p][/quote]this moron must work in the press office at Burnley with his stargazing attitude hahahahaha.Like most of these fools if you disagree with their total bullshhiit they say you are a jibbs fan bizarre.
The corrupt diving league last time was total boredom.slants

houseclaret wrote…

slants wrote…

House claret lol what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah. The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.

Take it your a Rovers fan then. Are you another side to fake idiot? What is it with Rovers fans pretending to be Clarets. Go and play somewhere else will you.

this moron must work in the press office at Burnley with his stargazing attitude hahahahaha.Like most of these fools if you disagree with their total bullshhiit they say you are a jibbs fan bizarre. The corrupt diving league last time was total boredom.

Score: -4

barlickmafia says...2:04pm Wed 14 May 14

houseclaret wrote…

tall in the saddle wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

tall in the saddle wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

barlickmafia wrote…

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

Exactly. It's the price you pay for success. This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers. There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about. Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club. The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us. Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?

But Super, what if the "price of success" is not being able to get to a game at all if you don't have a season ticket, is that a price worth paying? And is it the best league in the world? I doubt it. Look at the Bundesliga. Look at the league that is providing BOTH finalists in the Champions league (and one of them ISN'T Barcelona). Just because it's English doesn't mean it's the best. It's just the best marketed league in the world with hype from the media that would make Beyonce blush. And with 70% foreign players, is it truly an English league? Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of what we have achieved and you're right about the visiting teams, but I am afraid that I won't be able to watch the team I have supported for 50 years due to pampering to the over-hyped and massively over financed Premier League.

You sound like we should be in League One so you can see a game. This is rubbish. If you can’t get a ticket it’s bad luck- one of them things. I hope you can get in, but you can’t halt progress for these kind of reasons. The foreign leagues you mention do CURRENTLY have better teams at the top of their leagues but the leagues are not as good. Why do you think MOST foreign players want to play in the Premier League – because it’s the best to play in and the most exciting. Of course wages are higher here also (there are anomalies like Ronaldo etc at Real Madrid) but generally. Because wages are so high in the EPL Burnley has to try to make as much as they can in order to attract a few so they can stay in the league. I for one am all for it.

Try watching the Budesliga for example. The standard is generally higher and the league is more competitive. The reason foreign players want to play here is simply because of the money, nothing else. If you really believe that they come here for any other reason you are living in wonderland. You are, unfortunately, a victim of the very over-hype that I have been talking about. The truth is money is KILLING our game and real football competition is dying, if not already dead. 5 different champions in over 20 years of them prem says it all mate.

I am not a victim of over hype at all. I am a Burnley fan and delighted to see them in the PL and looking forward to seeing some top players along with our own top players at Turf Moor this coming season. I have watched Bundesliga and the standard is fine but it’s not my team or my football. I agree with you too much money in the game but look stadiums are full. Waiting lists for tickets at many PL clubs. I would dearly like to change it and restore the old order but it’s gone. To its immense credit the Bundesliga has kept ticket prices down so that the working man can still afford to see the matches. Could you see the FA lobbying to introduce a maximum price for PL clubs match tickets? Not a chance. The top six or seven clubs are greedy and would break away and form a new league. As you say all about money. Just like the rest of our society.

I think we can agree on most points. It's a bit of a shame that the whole situation has got fellow Clarets arguing with one another. Incidentally did you see the point about Bayern Munich? £110 season ticket to watch one of the best clubs in the world. Now that's what I call value for money (ha ha). I'll still be on the Turf next season, if I can get a ticket. I suppose these days being in love with a football club is like having a high maintainance wife, a hard cross to bear.

Houseclaret, I understand you may not be able to afford to buy a season ticket, you may not be able to get a matchday ticket either but this is life!! Its about supply and demand, its ok saying Bayern Munich have £110 season tickets but how many of these are actually available. i will guarantee there will be Bayern fans that want these but dont get them. Not every season ticket at Bayern is £110. The Turf only holds 18000 home fans, if season tickets were £110 each that would be total revenue of roughly £2million and as it would be full no chance of extra sales. Currently we have sold 13000 season tickets at an averag of lets say £300 each. Revenue of roughly £4 million and 5000 seats left to sell!! It makes perfect financial sense and that is why our club is one of the best run around!!! You are talking rubbish really pal. if you are that desperate for a season ticket at the Turf then you would change your circumstances. If i was in a job that didnt pay me enough for me to do the things i truly want to do then i would try and change my career and earn some more money.

[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tall in the saddle[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tall in the saddle[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]barlickmafia[/bold] wrote:
This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in.
I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!!
Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!!
The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week.
The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season.
Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise.
These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.[/p][/quote]Exactly. It's the price you pay for success.
This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers.
There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about.
Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club.
The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us.
Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?[/p][/quote]But Super, what if the "price of success" is not being able to get to a game at all if you don't have a season ticket, is that a price worth paying? And is it the best league in the world? I doubt it. Look at the Bundesliga. Look at the league that is providing BOTH finalists in the Champions league (and one of them ISN'T Barcelona). Just because it's English doesn't mean it's the best. It's just the best marketed league in the world with hype from the media that would make Beyonce blush. And with 70% foreign players, is it truly an English league? Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of what we have achieved and you're right about the visiting teams, but I am afraid that I won't be able to watch the team I have supported for 50 years due to pampering to the over-hyped and massively over financed Premier League.[/p][/quote]You sound like we should be in League One so you can see a game. This is rubbish. If you can’t get a ticket it’s bad luck- one of them things. I hope you can get in, but you can’t halt progress for these kind of reasons. The foreign leagues you mention do CURRENTLY have better teams at the top of their leagues but the leagues are not as good. Why do you think MOST foreign players want to play in the Premier League – because it’s the best to play in and the most exciting. Of course wages are higher here also (there are anomalies like Ronaldo etc at Real Madrid) but generally. Because wages are so high in the EPL Burnley has to try to make as much as they can in order to attract a few so they can stay in the league. I for one am all for it.[/p][/quote]Try watching the Budesliga for example. The standard is generally higher and the league is more competitive. The reason foreign players want to play here is simply because of the money, nothing else. If you really believe that they come here for any other reason you are living in wonderland. You are, unfortunately, a victim of the very over-hype that I have been talking about. The truth is money is KILLING our game and real football competition is dying, if not already dead. 5 different champions in over 20 years of them prem says it all mate.[/p][/quote]I am not a victim of over hype at all. I am a Burnley fan and delighted to see them in the PL and looking forward to seeing some top players along with our own top players at Turf Moor this coming season. I have watched Bundesliga and the standard is fine but it’s not my team or my football. I agree with you too much money in the game but look stadiums are full. Waiting lists for tickets at many PL clubs. I would dearly like to change it and restore the old order but it’s gone. To its immense credit the Bundesliga has kept ticket prices down so that the working man can still afford to see the matches. Could you see the FA lobbying to introduce a maximum price for PL clubs match tickets? Not a chance. The top six or seven clubs are greedy and would break away and form a new league. As you say all about money. Just like the rest of our society.[/p][/quote]I think we can agree on most points. It's a bit of a shame that the whole situation has got fellow Clarets arguing with one another.
Incidentally did you see the point about Bayern Munich? £110 season ticket to watch one of the best clubs in the world. Now that's what I call value for money (ha ha).
I'll still be on the Turf next season, if I can get a ticket. I suppose these days being in love with a football club is like having a high maintainance wife, a hard cross to bear.[/p][/quote]Houseclaret, I understand you may not be able to afford to buy a season ticket, you may not be able to get a matchday ticket either but this is life!!
Its about supply and demand, its ok saying Bayern Munich have £110 season tickets but how many of these are actually available. i will guarantee there will be Bayern fans that want these but dont get them. Not every season ticket at Bayern is £110.
The Turf only holds 18000 home fans, if season tickets were £110 each that would be total revenue of roughly £2million and as it would be full no chance of extra sales. Currently we have sold 13000 season tickets at an averag of lets say £300 each. Revenue of roughly £4 million and 5000 seats left to sell!! It makes perfect financial sense and that is why our club is one of the best run around!!!
You are talking rubbish really pal. if you are that desperate for a season ticket at the Turf then you would change your circumstances. If i was in a job that didnt pay me enough for me to do the things i truly want to do then i would try and change my career and earn some more money.barlickmafia

houseclaret wrote…

tall in the saddle wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

tall in the saddle wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

Super_Clarets wrote…

barlickmafia wrote…

This is a great idea by the club!! I have a season ticket at the Turf. james Hargreaves upper centre. I was going to renew anyway no matter what division we were in. I thought about the pricing at the time of renewal. £450 for either 19 games in the PL (£23.68 per game) or 23 games in the Championship (19.56 per game). Perfectly reasonable price structure for a well run club!! Now we have made it to the Premier League these glory hunters are complaining because they cannot afford the new price. They should have had faith in the club, the board, the manager and the players like the 8000 or so of us that purchased season tickets for this year!! The club made a massive financial error in giving FREE season tickets the last time we were in the PL. This was an estimated £4million loss in revenue. The board learned from this error. That extra revenue can pay 5 players £20000 a week. The retainer is there to encourage the one season wonders to retain their season ticket next season. Its all about supply and demand. I guarantee the Turf will be sold out every game next season whether people buy season tickets or go on the odd game when they can get tickets. It is very expensive, if not extortionate but thats the way of the world. When the product on offer is better quality and the availability is lessend prices rise. These Rovers fans commenting really need to be worrying about their club before critcizing others. There is no way the Venkys can continue subsidising cheap season tickets with increasing debt and massive player wage bills. before long either your ticket price will rise or the Venkys will scarper, leaving you in the lurch!! If you are happy to have a few seasons of cheap viewing and no club in the future then you are not true fans of your club.

Exactly. It's the price you pay for success. This is Premier League football we're talking about, This is Burnley FC competing against the best of the best in arguable the best league in the world. The likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United turning up at Turf Moor every other week, this isn't a wet and windy Tuesday night against the likes of Brentford or Blackburn Rovers. There will be a full house and an incredible atmosphere each and every home game. You only have to think back to the first home game of 2009 to know what its all about. Some may find it a little on the steep side if they've left it late to purchase a season ticket and that's perfectly understandable, however if you consider the alternative scenario of us not achieving promotion this season and the implications of the parachute payments coming to an end followed by the sale of several first team players to compensate, I think the board are looking at things the right way and ensuring that the money goes a lot further, not just in funding Sean Dyche to build a competitive squad, but in strengthening for future years as a Premier League club. The no-dad contingent simply have nothing left to squawk about these days so we'll have to put up with a few jealous and deluded comments about attendances, etc. until they get a tubbing off Brentford and then they'll pipe down again. They are desperately, desperately jealous of us. Burnley FC is a debt free, well-run, well respected, honest, decent, proper football club playing at the top level. We are very fortunate to be in this position and we have a lot to look forward to. Does an extra few quid really matter that much?

But Super, what if the "price of success" is not being able to get to a game at all if you don't have a season ticket, is that a price worth paying? And is it the best league in the world? I doubt it. Look at the Bundesliga. Look at the league that is providing BOTH finalists in the Champions league (and one of them ISN'T Barcelona). Just because it's English doesn't mean it's the best. It's just the best marketed league in the world with hype from the media that would make Beyonce blush. And with 70% foreign players, is it truly an English league? Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of what we have achieved and you're right about the visiting teams, but I am afraid that I won't be able to watch the team I have supported for 50 years due to pampering to the over-hyped and massively over financed Premier League.

You sound like we should be in League One so you can see a game. This is rubbish. If you can’t get a ticket it’s bad luck- one of them things. I hope you can get in, but you can’t halt progress for these kind of reasons. The foreign leagues you mention do CURRENTLY have better teams at the top of their leagues but the leagues are not as good. Why do you think MOST foreign players want to play in the Premier League – because it’s the best to play in and the most exciting. Of course wages are higher here also (there are anomalies like Ronaldo etc at Real Madrid) but generally. Because wages are so high in the EPL Burnley has to try to make as much as they can in order to attract a few so they can stay in the league. I for one am all for it.

Try watching the Budesliga for example. The standard is generally higher and the league is more competitive. The reason foreign players want to play here is simply because of the money, nothing else. If you really believe that they come here for any other reason you are living in wonderland. You are, unfortunately, a victim of the very over-hype that I have been talking about. The truth is money is KILLING our game and real football competition is dying, if not already dead. 5 different champions in over 20 years of them prem says it all mate.

I am not a victim of over hype at all. I am a Burnley fan and delighted to see them in the PL and looking forward to seeing some top players along with our own top players at Turf Moor this coming season. I have watched Bundesliga and the standard is fine but it’s not my team or my football. I agree with you too much money in the game but look stadiums are full. Waiting lists for tickets at many PL clubs. I would dearly like to change it and restore the old order but it’s gone. To its immense credit the Bundesliga has kept ticket prices down so that the working man can still afford to see the matches. Could you see the FA lobbying to introduce a maximum price for PL clubs match tickets? Not a chance. The top six or seven clubs are greedy and would break away and form a new league. As you say all about money. Just like the rest of our society.

I think we can agree on most points. It's a bit of a shame that the whole situation has got fellow Clarets arguing with one another. Incidentally did you see the point about Bayern Munich? £110 season ticket to watch one of the best clubs in the world. Now that's what I call value for money (ha ha). I'll still be on the Turf next season, if I can get a ticket. I suppose these days being in love with a football club is like having a high maintainance wife, a hard cross to bear.

Houseclaret, I understand you may not be able to afford to buy a season ticket, you may not be able to get a matchday ticket either but this is life!! Its about supply and demand, its ok saying Bayern Munich have £110 season tickets but how many of these are actually available. i will guarantee there will be Bayern fans that want these but dont get them. Not every season ticket at Bayern is £110. The Turf only holds 18000 home fans, if season tickets were £110 each that would be total revenue of roughly £2million and as it would be full no chance of extra sales. Currently we have sold 13000 season tickets at an averag of lets say £300 each. Revenue of roughly £4 million and 5000 seats left to sell!! It makes perfect financial sense and that is why our club is one of the best run around!!! You are talking rubbish really pal. if you are that desperate for a season ticket at the Turf then you would change your circumstances. If i was in a job that didnt pay me enough for me to do the things i truly want to do then i would try and change my career and earn some more money.

Score: 6

BelTower says...2:13pm Wed 14 May 14

houseclaret wrote…

BelTower wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

BelTower wrote…

TurfMoorTom wrote…

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.

Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.

A football club should be a football club first and a business second. If we lose sight of that we lose sight of the word "sport". Don't forget, unlike "real" businesses, if football disappeared tomorrow the world would go on pretty much as it always has. It's actually not that important (my wife absolutely hates the game). It's only important if you are a football fan (as I am) and when it becomes a business that shuts the doors on it's dedicated customers in order to make more money then we have lost sight of what it actually is in the first place - a pastime. If you really love your club, whether it be Burnley, Rovers or No-Name Athletic, you shouldn't have to be forced to pay for season tickets just to attend a game, especially when there will be, for most games, hundreds of empty seats that can't be sold. That isn't even good business sense. For what it's worth, I've spent the last 25 years in marketing so I have a pretty good idea what makes business sense and what is happening at Burnley here is just greed.

Meanwhile......back in the real world.

So what is football? Is it a sport/pastime or is it a business? It only became a business with the advent of the cash cow that is the prem. It had to become a business when agents started demanding ridiculous amounts of money for players wages. In your "real world" teams like Burnley, Rovers etc. will exist just to feed players to the half dozen clubs who have realistic chances of actually winning anything. Are you not sick to death of living off the scraps from the "big clubs" table? There needs to be a revolution in football in order to bring some sanity back to it. Real world my backside!!!

And again.........meanwh ile back in the real world.

[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]BelTower[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]BelTower[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoorTom[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]BelTower[/bold] wrote:
My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"[/p][/quote]You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.[/p][/quote]Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.[/p][/quote]A football club should be a football club first and a business second. If we lose sight of that we lose sight of the word "sport". Don't forget, unlike "real" businesses, if football disappeared tomorrow the world would go on pretty much as it always has. It's actually not that important (my wife absolutely hates the game). It's only important if you are a football fan (as I am) and when it becomes a business that shuts the doors on it's dedicated customers in order to make more money then we have lost sight of what it actually is in the first place - a pastime. If you really love your club, whether it be Burnley, Rovers or No-Name Athletic, you shouldn't have to be forced to pay for season tickets just to attend a game, especially when there will be, for most games, hundreds of empty seats that can't be sold. That isn't even good business sense. For what it's worth, I've spent the last 25 years in marketing so I have a pretty good idea what makes business sense and what is happening at Burnley here is just greed.[/p][/quote]Meanwhile......back in the real world.[/p][/quote]So what is football? Is it a sport/pastime or is it a business? It only became a business with the advent of the cash cow that is the prem. It had to become a business when agents started demanding ridiculous amounts of money for players wages. In your "real world" teams like Burnley, Rovers etc. will exist just to feed players to the half dozen clubs who have realistic chances of actually winning anything. Are you not sick to death of living off the scraps from the "big clubs" table? There needs to be a revolution in football in order to bring some sanity back to it. Real world my backside!!![/p][/quote]And again.........meanwh
ile back in the real world.BelTower

houseclaret wrote…

BelTower wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

BelTower wrote…

TurfMoorTom wrote…

BelTower wrote…

My opinion for what its worth - what exactly do you expect? Free tickets again. Everyone had the chance to buy before the early bird and those who chose to do this showed not only some financial nous but faith in what the team could achieve. Whilst Kilby and Flood should be applauded for their previous efforts it's only right that the new regime do things their own way. Yes we are a small fish in a big pond but that doesn't mean we should have a small fish mentality. The board and within that the manager need to be backed because if we stick together we'll not only survive next season but take the next step forward. So get your hand in your pocket and come and see Dyche pit his wits against the "big guns"

You should expect fairness. Why does a club that has just achieved a £120m windfall, due in a some part to the support want to try and extract all of an extra £500k out of the very same supporters by arbitrarily raising the price? It's almost like they're trying to make hay while the sun shines and don't believe it will last.

Because the club is not a charity. It is a business and if we want long term success (which if you'rea claret I'm sure you do) then we need to start thinking differently. Look like I said it's my opinion; I know it's probably not universally popular but nonetheless I believe we need to change our mentality if we are to be more than a one season wonder.

A football club should be a football club first and a business second. If we lose sight of that we lose sight of the word "sport". Don't forget, unlike "real" businesses, if football disappeared tomorrow the world would go on pretty much as it always has. It's actually not that important (my wife absolutely hates the game). It's only important if you are a football fan (as I am) and when it becomes a business that shuts the doors on it's dedicated customers in order to make more money then we have lost sight of what it actually is in the first place - a pastime. If you really love your club, whether it be Burnley, Rovers or No-Name Athletic, you shouldn't have to be forced to pay for season tickets just to attend a game, especially when there will be, for most games, hundreds of empty seats that can't be sold. That isn't even good business sense. For what it's worth, I've spent the last 25 years in marketing so I have a pretty good idea what makes business sense and what is happening at Burnley here is just greed.

Meanwhile......back in the real world.

So what is football? Is it a sport/pastime or is it a business? It only became a business with the advent of the cash cow that is the prem. It had to become a business when agents started demanding ridiculous amounts of money for players wages. In your "real world" teams like Burnley, Rovers etc. will exist just to feed players to the half dozen clubs who have realistic chances of actually winning anything. Are you not sick to death of living off the scraps from the "big clubs" table? There needs to be a revolution in football in order to bring some sanity back to it. Real world my backside!!!

And again.........meanwh ile back in the real world.

Score: 2

RobH2O says...2:15pm Wed 14 May 14

slants wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

slants wrote…

House claret lol what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah. The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.

Take it your a Rovers fan then. Are you another side to fake idiot? What is it with Rovers fans pretending to be Clarets. Go and play somewhere else will you.

this moron must work in the press office at Burnley with his stargazing attitude hahahahaha.Like most of these fools if you disagree with their total bullshhiit they say you are a jibbs fan bizarre. The corrupt diving league last time was total boredom.

Yet again, Slants demonstrates his complete inability to compose and delivery a sentence, or a paragraph, in the English language. Why do you bother trying?

[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
House claret lol
what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah.
The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.[/p][/quote]Take it your a Rovers fan then. Are you another side to fake idiot? What is it with Rovers fans pretending to be Clarets. Go and play somewhere else will you.[/p][/quote]this moron must work in the press office at Burnley with his stargazing attitude hahahahaha.Like most of these fools if you disagree with their total bullshhiit they say you are a jibbs fan bizarre.
The corrupt diving league last time was total boredom.[/p][/quote]Yet again, Slants demonstrates his complete inability to compose and delivery a sentence, or a paragraph, in the English language. Why do you bother trying?RobH2O

slants wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

slants wrote…

House claret lol what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah. The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.

Take it your a Rovers fan then. Are you another side to fake idiot? What is it with Rovers fans pretending to be Clarets. Go and play somewhere else will you.

this moron must work in the press office at Burnley with his stargazing attitude hahahahaha.Like most of these fools if you disagree with their total bullshhiit they say you are a jibbs fan bizarre. The corrupt diving league last time was total boredom.

Yet again, Slants demonstrates his complete inability to compose and delivery a sentence, or a paragraph, in the English language. Why do you bother trying?

Score: 4

slants says...2:31pm Wed 14 May 14

RobH2O wrote…

slants wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

slants wrote…

House claret lol what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah. The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.

Take it your a Rovers fan then. Are you another side to fake idiot? What is it with Rovers fans pretending to be Clarets. Go and play somewhere else will you.

this moron must work in the press office at Burnley with his stargazing attitude hahahahaha.Like most of these fools if you disagree with their total bullshhiit they say you are a jibbs fan bizarre. The corrupt diving league last time was total boredom.

Yet again, Slants demonstrates his complete inability to compose and delivery a sentence, or a paragraph, in the English language. Why do you bother trying?

don't you love these morons that scour the forums looking for a punctuation mark out of place so they can post lol and use words like 'delivery a sentence' well done done diickhead hahahahahha

[quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
House claret lol
what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah.
The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.[/p][/quote]Take it your a Rovers fan then. Are you another side to fake idiot? What is it with Rovers fans pretending to be Clarets. Go and play somewhere else will you.[/p][/quote]this moron must work in the press office at Burnley with his stargazing attitude hahahahaha.Like most of these fools if you disagree with their total bullshhiit they say you are a jibbs fan bizarre.
The corrupt diving league last time was total boredom.[/p][/quote]Yet again, Slants demonstrates his complete inability to compose and delivery a sentence, or a paragraph, in the English language. Why do you bother trying?[/p][/quote]don't you love these morons that scour the forums looking for a punctuation mark out of place so they can post lol and use words like 'delivery a sentence' well done done diickhead hahahahahhaslants

RobH2O wrote…

slants wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

slants wrote…

House claret lol what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah. The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.

Take it your a Rovers fan then. Are you another side to fake idiot? What is it with Rovers fans pretending to be Clarets. Go and play somewhere else will you.

this moron must work in the press office at Burnley with his stargazing attitude hahahahaha.Like most of these fools if you disagree with their total bullshhiit they say you are a jibbs fan bizarre. The corrupt diving league last time was total boredom.

Yet again, Slants demonstrates his complete inability to compose and delivery a sentence, or a paragraph, in the English language. Why do you bother trying?

don't you love these morons that scour the forums looking for a punctuation mark out of place so they can post lol and use words like 'delivery a sentence' well done done diickhead hahahahahha

Score: -5

RobH2O says...2:33pm Wed 14 May 14

slants wrote…

RobH2O wrote…

slants wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

slants wrote…

House claret lol what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah. The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.

Take it your a Rovers fan then. Are you another side to fake idiot? What is it with Rovers fans pretending to be Clarets. Go and play somewhere else will you.

this moron must work in the press office at Burnley with his stargazing attitude hahahahaha.Like most of these fools if you disagree with their total bullshhiit they say you are a jibbs fan bizarre. The corrupt diving league last time was total boredom.

Yet again, Slants demonstrates his complete inability to compose and delivery a sentence, or a paragraph, in the English language. Why do you bother trying?

don't you love these morons that scour the forums looking for a punctuation mark out of place so they can post lol and use words like 'delivery a sentence' well done done diickhead hahahahahha

Your welcome sir. Matron may let you out into the sun shortly. Remember, don't dribble, like you do when you are writing.

[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
House claret lol
what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah.
The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.[/p][/quote]Take it your a Rovers fan then. Are you another side to fake idiot? What is it with Rovers fans pretending to be Clarets. Go and play somewhere else will you.[/p][/quote]this moron must work in the press office at Burnley with his stargazing attitude hahahahaha.Like most of these fools if you disagree with their total bullshhiit they say you are a jibbs fan bizarre.
The corrupt diving league last time was total boredom.[/p][/quote]Yet again, Slants demonstrates his complete inability to compose and delivery a sentence, or a paragraph, in the English language. Why do you bother trying?[/p][/quote]don't you love these morons that scour the forums looking for a punctuation mark out of place so they can post lol and use words like 'delivery a sentence' well done done diickhead hahahahahha[/p][/quote]Your welcome sir. Matron may let you out into the sun shortly. Remember, don't dribble, like you do when you are writing.RobH2O

slants wrote…

RobH2O wrote…

slants wrote…

houseclaret wrote…

slants wrote…

House claret lol what a moron looking through rose tinted glasses .Last time i had a season ticket on the cricket field end and it was never full and we could see gaps all over from where we were in all 3 stands you plonker get real why do you just believe everything the club tells you hahahahahahah. The whinging and crying and cheating plus the boredom made me give up my ticket halfway through thank good.

Take it your a Rovers fan then. Are you another side to fake idiot? What is it with Rovers fans pretending to be Clarets. Go and play somewhere else will you.

this moron must work in the press office at Burnley with his stargazing attitude hahahahaha.Like most of these fools if you disagree with their total bullshhiit they say you are a jibbs fan bizarre. The corrupt diving league last time was total boredom.

Yet again, Slants demonstrates his complete inability to compose and delivery a sentence, or a paragraph, in the English language. Why do you bother trying?

don't you love these morons that scour the forums looking for a punctuation mark out of place so they can post lol and use words like 'delivery a sentence' well done done diickhead hahahahahha

Your welcome sir. Matron may let you out into the sun shortly. Remember, don't dribble, like you do when you are writing.

Score: 2

A Darener says...3:19pm Wed 14 May 14

Don't see what the fuss is about! Ticket prices will be down next year same as Burnley.

Don't see what the fuss is about! Ticket prices will be down next year same as Burnley.A Darener

Don't see what the fuss is about! Ticket prices will be down next year same as Burnley.

Score: -4

RobH2O says...3:25pm Wed 14 May 14

A Darener wrote…

Don't see what the fuss is about! Ticket prices will be down next year same as Burnley.

The prediction business! Perhaps you'd like to join the "Recant" business too. As I recall, and as will you, you offered a "no chance" prediction on us going up early last season. Best not put your hard-earned on a Darener prediction eh!

[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote:
Don't see what the fuss is about! Ticket prices will be down next year same as Burnley.[/p][/quote]The prediction business! Perhaps you'd like to join the "Recant" business too. As I recall, and as will you, you offered a "no chance" prediction on us going up early last season. Best not put your hard-earned on a Darener prediction eh!RobH2O

A Darener wrote…

Don't see what the fuss is about! Ticket prices will be down next year same as Burnley.

The prediction business! Perhaps you'd like to join the "Recant" business too. As I recall, and as will you, you offered a "no chance" prediction on us going up early last season. Best not put your hard-earned on a Darener prediction eh!

Score: 6

Super_Clarets says...3:51pm Wed 14 May 14

A Darener wrote…

Don't see what the fuss is about! Ticket prices will be down next year same as Burnley.

And you're a good one for predictions aren't you.... 3:15pm Thu 12 Sep 13 A Darener says... Last season we didn't scab a draw you lost the best chance you will EVER have of taking three points off us. You had your chance and blew it! Saturday normal service will be resumed and you will wander the town centre with your tail between your legs once again. 5:11pm Thu 26 Dec 13 A Darener says... Mr Rover's house is full of cheer, as Burnley's plummet is coming near. Come the New Year and then we'll see, Just who is still the best? We'll see! I think we're safe.

[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote:
Don't see what the fuss is about! Ticket prices will be down next year same as Burnley.[/p][/quote]And you're a good one for predictions aren't you....
3:15pm Thu 12 Sep 13
A Darener says...
Last season we didn't scab a draw you lost the best chance you will EVER have of taking three points off us. You had your chance and blew it! Saturday normal service will be resumed and you will wander the town centre with your tail between your legs once again.
5:11pm Thu 26 Dec 13
A Darener says...
Mr Rover's house is full of cheer, as Burnley's plummet is coming near. Come the New Year and then we'll see, Just who is still the best? We'll see!
I think we're safe.Super_Clarets

A Darener wrote…

Don't see what the fuss is about! Ticket prices will be down next year same as Burnley.

And you're a good one for predictions aren't you.... 3:15pm Thu 12 Sep 13 A Darener says... Last season we didn't scab a draw you lost the best chance you will EVER have of taking three points off us. You had your chance and blew it! Saturday normal service will be resumed and you will wander the town centre with your tail between your legs once again. 5:11pm Thu 26 Dec 13 A Darener says... Mr Rover's house is full of cheer, as Burnley's plummet is coming near. Come the New Year and then we'll see, Just who is still the best? We'll see! I think we're safe.

Score: 10

spudpaul61 says...8:22pm Wed 14 May 14

at the end of the day the directors at burnley fc once again show contempt for the ordinary local footy fans of this town with this outragous ticketing policy, voucher my arse its a con trick they know it now we know it, to my knowledge no other club does this, there will be empty seats on the turf this coming season as was last season and it serves them right, its just too expensive!!! and all the glib smug brigade who got the early bird deal fair play to you but what are the chances of this board using the same voucher tactics for future seasons? more of the same me thinks, the mind boggles!!! elitism, greed, or panic stations, this board like others before them all wealthy folk are badly out of tune with economics of the area, and for what its worth I reckon the clarets just might stay up next season which I have no doubt will create another scam for the season after, so its the pub or other means for me and many others for next season what a shame, and shame on the board

at the end of the day the directors at burnley fc once again show contempt for the ordinary local footy fans of this town with this outragous ticketing policy, voucher my arse its a con trick they know it now we know it, to my knowledge no other club does this, there will be empty seats on the turf this coming season as was last season and it serves them right, its just too expensive!!! and all the glib smug brigade who got the early bird deal fair play to you but what are the chances of this board using the same voucher tactics for future seasons? more of the same me thinks, the mind boggles!!! elitism, greed, or panic stations, this board like others before them all wealthy folk are badly out of tune with economics of the area, and for what its worth I reckon the clarets just might stay up next season which I have no doubt will create another scam for the season after, so its the pub or other means for me and many others for next season what a shame, and shame on the boardspudpaul61

at the end of the day the directors at burnley fc once again show contempt for the ordinary local footy fans of this town with this outragous ticketing policy, voucher my arse its a con trick they know it now we know it, to my knowledge no other club does this, there will be empty seats on the turf this coming season as was last season and it serves them right, its just too expensive!!! and all the glib smug brigade who got the early bird deal fair play to you but what are the chances of this board using the same voucher tactics for future seasons? more of the same me thinks, the mind boggles!!! elitism, greed, or panic stations, this board like others before them all wealthy folk are badly out of tune with economics of the area, and for what its worth I reckon the clarets just might stay up next season which I have no doubt will create another scam for the season after, so its the pub or other means for me and many others for next season what a shame, and shame on the board

Score: 0

slants says...12:07pm Thu 15 May 14

The moron Hoiuseclaret will now go baqck to tending the grass .He's obviously employed by Burnley FC.

The moron Hoiuseclaret will now go baqck to tending the grass .He's obviously employed by Burnley FC.slants

The moron Hoiuseclaret will now go baqck to tending the grass .He's obviously employed by Burnley FC.

Score: -2

woz1974 says...5:24pm Thu 15 May 14

im sure some leeds fans will jump on your bandwagon !!

im sure some leeds fans will jump on your bandwagon !!woz1974

im sure some leeds fans will jump on your bandwagon !!

Score: 0

RobH2O says...5:26pm Thu 15 May 14

slants wrote…

The moron Hoiuseclaret will now go baqck to tending the grass .He's obviously employed by Burnley FC.

And you're unemployable. Did you get someone to write that for you?

[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote:
The moron Hoiuseclaret will now go baqck to tending the grass .He's obviously employed by Burnley FC.[/p][/quote]And you're unemployable. Did you get someone to write that for you?RobH2O

slants wrote…

The moron Hoiuseclaret will now go baqck to tending the grass .He's obviously employed by Burnley FC.

If I turn up at Travelodge on a cold dark night looking for a room it will cost me £45-£65 on the spot. If I book three months in advance it costs £20-£22 a night. How simple a pricing policy is that!

If I turn up at Travelodge on a cold dark night looking for a room it will cost me £45-£65 on the spot.
If I book three months in advance it costs £20-£22 a night.
How simple a pricing policy is that!Scamp Kingsley

If I turn up at Travelodge on a cold dark night looking for a room it will cost me £45-£65 on the spot. If I book three months in advance it costs £20-£22 a night. How simple a pricing policy is that!

Score: 0

shimmy says...9:04am Mon 19 May 14

The retainer is the issue, Burnley have time to sort this. I bought my ticket before the deadline but that is not the point as many have said.A massive own goal to think that people in a low wage earning town can afford to pay upfront for a product they me not want. Lee Hoos seems to have a good reputation and now needs to persuade the board they have made an error.

The retainer is the issue, Burnley have time to sort this. I bought my ticket before the deadline but that is not the point as many have said.A massive own goal to think that people in a low wage earning town can afford to pay upfront for a product they me not want. Lee Hoos seems to have a good reputation and now needs to persuade the board they have made an error.shimmy

The retainer is the issue, Burnley have time to sort this. I bought my ticket before the deadline but that is not the point as many have said.A massive own goal to think that people in a low wage earning town can afford to pay upfront for a product they me not want. Lee Hoos seems to have a good reputation and now needs to persuade the board they have made an error.

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