Sorry John. You're wrong. Anyone who watched wwdc knows you can only use face time with other iPhones. Every AT&T plan has unlimited mobile to mobile. So there's no reason anyone should have ever thought you'd get charged in face time.

yeh you have obviously never made a video call over the network, that will never get stuck into free mobile to mobile. its to much data to give away.

i wouldnt put it past AT&T to use minuets for the facetime. AT&T gets to have video calls use your minuets and all the video is over your network. Sounds like good business model to me. Its not good for us but its makes sense for a business.

Originally Posted by Happy Noodle Boy

You people will make an argument out of the color of the sky on a sunny day.

Just remember there is a whole world out side the USA you know. In Australia back in 2001/2002 when we first had video chat on mobiles it was charged at a seperate rate of use to voice and sms etc. The platform however now has changed with data included on mobile (in the past you never really used your mobile for internet and data) I also thought they mentioned that facetime would be an open source so they could try and intergrate it across the board?

Is there anyone here who actually thought you would be charged? Captain Obvious?

Originally Posted by spiderguy84

Seriously a waste of an article. You can only make facetime calls to other iPhone 4 users. iPhone is only with AT&T. AT&T calls to other AT&T customers already don't use minutes. A big fat duh!!!

Originally Posted by faymus

slow news day huh?

Originally Posted by spiderguy84

Sorry John. You're wrong. Anyone who watched wwdc knows you can only use face time with other iPhones. Every AT&T plan has unlimited mobile to mobile. So there's no reason anyone should have ever thought you'd get charged in face time.

Originally Posted by AlexCrammer

It doesn't use minutes because you do it over Wi-Fi. ?????

Originally Posted by eortizr

duuuhhh wifi only,, is not that obvious?

i couldnt agree more...i never though for a minute that there would be a charge for video calls...mobile-to-mobile and its over wifi??!!...really!!

how long do you think its gonna take before there's a crack to use it over 3g.?

might be a little off topic...but has anyone received money back from apple after pre-ordering their iphone?...ive already received an e-mail about it being shipped out..and i have the tracking number and when i ordered on the 15th it took the $212.93 out of my accnt but now its back in...this supposed to happen?

Removed for being inappropriate. This is your sixth and final warning -

for face call to work both need to be on wifi odds r 10%..... enjoy doing face call idk y every one carving on it if if you to talk face to face from 1 country to another country to ur relatives then its good other then that its a useless feature... who wants to do face call when u calling your friend not your gf..... pluse the odds of your friends having iphone 4 is vslim....

Is there anyone here who actually thought you would be charged? Captain Obvious?

This is what I'm wondering. Apple mentioned one of the codecs it was built around was SIP. If AT&T starts counting SIP done over Wifi as Voice minutes, then they finally will have jumped the shark. They might as well pack it in, at that point. There will literally be nothing evil left for them to do to their customers without crossing the line into cartoonish-super-villianry.