An Omnipowerful God needed to sacrifice himself to himself (but only for a long weekend) in order to avert his own wrath against his own creations who he made in a manner knowing that they weren't going to live up to his standards.

And why did Uthman produce his standardized version of the Qur'an? Because the text was being changed... wiki:

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when the standard copies were made widely available to the Muslim community everywhere, then all other material was burnt voluntarily by the Muslim community themselves. The annihilation of these extra-Qur'anic documents remained essential in order to eradicate scriptural incongruities, contradictions of consequence or differences in the dialect from the customary text of the Qur'an.

So the answer to HOW CAN YOU CHANGE HEAVENLY TEXT is, "very easily, as history shows".

There's nothing to say your text is "heavenly". We have a legend about Mo and the magic horse. Nothing to support it, nor his little chat with Gabriel. Considering that it can't even get simple description right, there's no reason to think that some god had anything to do with it. You have the same tribal fascination with hair like the god of the Jews and Christians do. How impressive for a god to care about barbering. And your book repeats many of the same myths, all of course without anything to support that they actually happened.

The Egyptian Book of the Dead makes more sense by what it claims, so by your reasoning, it's even more holy and more true. Heck, the book Dianetics, by the Scientologists, hasn't been changed either so gee, it must be true too and there's probably more copies of it floating around than your magic book.

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And why did Uthman produce his standardized version of the Qur'an? Because the text was being changed... wiki:

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when the standard copies were made widely available to the Muslim community everywhere, then all other material was burnt voluntarily by the Muslim community themselves. The annihilation of these extra-Qur'anic documents remained essential in order to eradicate scriptural incongruities, contradictions of consequence or differences in the dialect from the customary text of the Qur'an.

So the answer to HOW CAN YOU CHANGE HEAVENLY TEXT is, "very easily, as history shows".

The history of the Koran is so dodgy that it makes the Bible look written in stone by comparison. All sorts of inscriptions that predate and are completely in conflict with the standrd text show up regularly in archeology. It is quite clear, very little of the Koran is "unchanged"

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An Omnipowerful God needed to sacrifice himself to himself (but only for a long weekend) in order to avert his own wrath against his own creations who he made in a manner knowing that they weren't going to live up to his standards.

One of the nature of theoceans that scientistsrecently found have beenrevealed in one verse of theHoly Quran (QS-Ar-Rahman:19-20) as follows : He let thetwo seas flow, both the meet,(but) between them, there is alimit which can not be passedby each.Nature of this sea, namelymeet each other, but not mixedwith each other at all, just found by expert sea. Becausethe style of physics called "surface tension", waters inthe sea close together will not be mixed. Because of thedifferences caused by the thickness of water, the voltageprevent the surface ocean are both mixed with each other,as if have thin walls in between them.Interestingly, in the period when people do not have anyknowledge physics, surface tension or the ocean experts,this knowledge has been revealed in the Holy Quran.Fresh Water in Ocean DepthBy: Ir. H. Bambang Pranggono, MBA....THE QURAN HAS EVERYTHING TRUE

For example, the KJV Bible has remained basically unchanged...since it was authorized back in 1769. Of course, it's been changed since the 1611 version, but if you're only looking at the 1769 version, then it's been unchanged.

One of the nature of the oceans that scientists recently found have been revealed in one verse of the Holy Quran (QS-Ar-Rahman:19-20) as follows : He let the two seas flow, both the meet, (but) between them, there is a limit which can not be passed by each. Nature of this sea, namely meet each other, but not mixed with each other at all, just found by expert sea. Because the style of physics called "surface tension", waters in the sea close together will not be mixed. Because of thedifferences caused by the thickness of water, the voltage prevent the surface ocean are both mixed with each other,as if have thin walls in between them. Interestingly, in the period when people do not have any knowledge physics, surface tension or the ocean experts, this knowledge has been revealed in the Holy Quran. Fresh Water in Ocean DepthBy: Ir. H. Bambang Pranggono, MBA....THE QURAN HAS EVERYTHING TRUE

The waters in the sea constantly meet and mix. Surface tension does not apply at all. There are indeed changes between densities of fresh and salt water, but they do mix. What a bunch of lies that this Muslim finds necessary to tell.

Hmm and where the magic book fails? Oh claiming that the earth is flat, the sun moves around the earth, claiming that bees eat fruit (they don't, only nectar from flowers and pollen), the sun sits in a muddy pool when it sets, etc. It's about as ignorant as the bible and appropriately so since it was written by ignorant men.

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For example, the KJV Bible has remained basically unchanged...since it was authorized back in 1769. Of course, it's been changed since the 1611 version, but if you're only looking at the 1769 version, then it's been unchanged.

It's all a matter of how far back we're willing to look.

I am say since the council of Nicea, which assembled the Bible, it has remained relatively stable. Sure there are variances, translation issues, the Apocrapha....but relatively stable. Outside of the dead sea scroll, we have little documentation from when people accepted a different text. Compare the to the Koran where there is tons of evidence that the current text is not the same, inscriptions on coins, on monuments, on tombs, on armor and swords that seem to be Koran-ish, annotated, mentioning Mohhamed and so forth, but are not contained within the Koran

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An Omnipowerful God needed to sacrifice himself to himself (but only for a long weekend) in order to avert his own wrath against his own creations who he made in a manner knowing that they weren't going to live up to his standards.

the water never mixes...the fresh water might cover the sea water ...IT DOES NOT MIX...ENGLISH...AND I LIVE IN AFRICA

You are willfully ignorant. And who cares if you live in Africa? It might be hard to realize but your fellow Muslims have lied to you and you are too lazy to actually find out about things for yourself. You cling to your ignorance in desperation.

Water mixes and anyone who has been to the shore knows that. Rivers of fresh water flow into the oceans and they do not remain fresh indefinitely. One can get fresh water from the Amazon almost 250 miles from its mouth. But that's it. They mix and your magic book fails again.

It is density not surface tension that makes them do this, so your ignorant fellows can't even get that much right in their pitiful attempts to show how great the qu'ran is. It's always so pitiful to watch the supposedly faithful try to find anything that helps them retain their weak faith and get things wrong in the process. It seems that Allah doesn't help his believers at all but allows them to look ridiculous.

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"There is no use in arguing with a man who can multiply anything by the square root of minus 1" - Pirates of Venus, ERB

Find yourself a tall bucket and mix the bottom half of the water with salt to a strong salt concentration. Then after that is settled and quiet, pour very very very gently half a bucket full of clean water. Then let it set for a day. come back the next day and take a drink and let us know if even the very tip top of the water remains unsalty. Inquiring Minds want to know..

the water never mixes .. you need to do proper research on this ive done mine

For Pete's sake...

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Brackish water is water that has more salinity than fresh water, but not as much as seawater. It may result from mixing of seawater with fresh water, as in estuaries, or it may occur in brackish fossil aquifers.

There are places in the sea where there is a layer of water high in salt below a layer of water which is low in salt, and there can seem to be a pretty distinct boundary between them. However, if you stopped the currents from flowing, the two bodies would readily mix.

the quran taLKS ABOUT THE THE SEA,because it is a very deep book and we have to do tafseer /interpret it we muslims can try... the true meaning is only known by the ahlulbayt/infallibles so, if the water were to be brought to the sea it woukld equal to NO MIX... the quran might be talking ABOUT THAT