I have been selling fishing rods on the Outer Banks since 1978. I know many of the people in this video and last year I told some of them your only hope is to get your National Congress critters, Reps., Senators and go to town.

You have to first realize you are not fighting bird loving environmentalists but environmental Marxists as I like to call them. they are the first line of assault for the Marxist movement. They are well funded and know exactly what they are doing since they do it all over the country. Love of animals has nothing to do with their quest. It's all divide and conquer.It's now being spread by the regime.

This is how they slowly but surely conquer area after area,a little bit at time terrorist style.

If you fight them they will fold and go somewhere else and try the same crap all over.

We have been dealing with them down here in the Keys for almost 30 years. Incremental ism is their game. A little bit at a time. They never stop but then neither do we. We are fortunate we have Ileana ros Lehtinen on our side, you need help from Washington and after Nov. it should be there.

Don't give up they can be beaten back,they are nothing more than Marxists extremists trying to co-op your land. Don't let them do it.

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posted on 09/04/2010 6:47:35 PM PDT
by rodguy911
( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)

It's my understanding that whenever a new nest is discovered by the Park Nazis they close down an area. It's all BS but the locals have not yet raised enough hell to get the enviros/the judge who ordered this crap, straightened out.

It's the same ol' Marxist crap, divide and conquer. Introduce chaos, doubt,uncertainty etc. Sound familiar? It's the same thing the regime is doing with the economy and the same reason businesses don't want to expand!! They don't know what the regime will do next. Same methodology being used here. The area might be closed on the whim of some bureaucrat. Who wants to vacation on that type of scenario.

So. the local businesses are in a heap of sh_t.

They need to start rattling some cages in dc.

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posted on 09/04/2010 7:08:18 PM PDT
by rodguy911
( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)

I’m out of it now, rodguy. I left NY 8 yrs ago and moved inland. I’ve been a fisherman all my life (see my FReeper name) I’m also a birder. I once went on a plover count with “members” of the Audubon Society in Gateway National Seashore at Ft. Tilden back in the early 90’s. The idiot they had me teamed up with spent the entire day scoping out the nude beach with his binocs and drinking wine with another pair of “members” who were supposed to be out by Breezy Pt. At the end of the day we returned to the office at the Jamaica Bay bird sanctuary where these jerks submitted totally made-up counts. I raised holy hell over these ficticious counts but was ignored since I was not a member of the society.

Unbelievable! Two chicks are killed and the economy of an entire area is supposed to come to a stop.

Its all BS an why GW really should have revisited the endangered species act to put some sanity back into it.Too bead it didn't happen.

It's my understanding that these birds used to nest on the other side of the road(the sound side) and now for some reason are on the Beach side instead of the Sound side. How would you like your future and the future of your kids tied to where a group of birds decide to fly next!!

Your federal govt. at work. If people of the Outer Banks don't fight back they will get rolled again an again. Its the Marxist way.

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posted on 09/04/2010 7:56:29 PM PDT
by rodguy911
( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)

The plovers are just a cover. The simple fact is they, Sierra Club, Audubon Society, Nature Conservancy, etc, want to ban ALL vehicular access to beaches just as has been done with wilderness areas inland.

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posted on 09/04/2010 8:05:30 PM PDT
by Roccus
(......and then there were none.)

“The eggs are well camouflaged and blend extremely well with their surroundings. Both sexes incubate the eggs which hatch within 30 days, and both sexes feed the young until they can fly, about 30 days after hatching.”

But, I was out on Hatteras Island just three weeks ago, and all the vehicular acces points were open, vehicleson the beach from Oregon Inlet all the way down to Cape Hatteras.

The beach closings are only during the Piping Plover's nesting season - which just happens to coincide with the height of summer tourist season. If an environmentalist (aka. whacko) or ranger even sees a PP on an area of beach, they can (and do) close that section and usually the nearby vehicle ramps.

Summer tourists and fall fishermen have been co-existing with the PP quite nicely for years. Now all of a sudden it is a life or death issue? The PP has (and uses) 50+ miles of undeveloped national seashore immediately north of the Hatteras and Buxton areas. Yet a mile or two near the point and the few beach access ramps are somehow judged critical to the PP's survival.

I think not. I am 100% sure this is a concerted effort by the environmentalists to trash the tourism and fishing industries on the islands.

You got that right. When I was there you could get a boat for a half-day in-shore flat rate (as many people as you want within legal limits), with tackle and bait provided, for $300-$400... and there were several boats ready to go (un-chartered) at any given time. That's insane. That would barely cover fuel and wear/tear on the gear. Obviously these guys are just trying to keep themselves in the game long enough for some kind of recovery.

The big beach houses are hurting too. Those places aren't cheap - to buy, insure, nor rent. Yet when I was there occupancy on the street was probably running about 40%. We did our best to support the local bait shops (fed a lot of fish), and the local liquor stores. ;-) It was a good vacation.

This isnt a NC Gov. problem, its a Federal problem. If its any consolation, Earl wiped the Plover nests for this year.

If I were a local out there, next spring I would be driving up and down that beach every day blowing my horn. Seriously. There's 50+ miles of undeveloped national seashore north of them. I would strongly discourage any PP from hanging around or {diety}-forbid nesting on the prime beaches.

The plovers are just a cover. The simple fact is they, Sierra Club, Audubon Society, Nature Conservancy, etc, want to ban ALL vehicular access to beaches just as has been done with wilderness areas inland.

You can add Toyota to that list. They provided $20 million to the Audubon Society to make the federal lawsuits happen that closed the beaches. I will never buy a Toyota, nor even consider one. Ever.

Rod .. needs to be sent to Beck, Rush, Hannity, Levin, etc.
They’re forcing people to spend money to fight them .. until the sheer overwhelming power of the fed govt finally wears them down and bankrupts them to submission .. sickening. This crew could even turn these areas over to some int’l court, they’re so twisted .. for the birds!!

Something has to end this madness, dear Lord.

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posted on 09/04/2010 8:36:38 PM PDT
by STARWISE
(The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)

Can we shoot them if we use environemntally friendly bullets? ... I was thinking along the lines of very hard, shaped rubber bullets.

Only as long as no-one sees you. Seriously though, the options seem to be: encourage the birds to use all the undeveloped national seashore north of Buxton; hope the {expletive} birds recover enough to get off the list so the enviro-whackos don't have a case anymore; or hope the birds go extinct quickly - before the tourism and fishing businesses on the Outer Banks do.

It used to be that the federal oligarchs would do endless studies before actually acting on a request. Now, with the environazis hands in the democrat party’s pants, there is not one shred of evidence for why these birds are in short supply (could be a virus for all the bastards at EPA know) yet the humans are atacked on the birds’ account because the democrats can throw their putrifacted weight around. ... It reminds me of the list of closed Chrysler dealerships being mostly contributors to the Pubbies, yet the pubbies have let the criminal democrats slide right by with their evil fascist behavior. We’re gonna need more bullets, friends.

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posted on 09/04/2010 9:01:37 PM PDT
by MHGinTN
(Dem voters, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when deceived.)

It's just like the Everglades National Park with new five year plans that slowly stop you from going here and there under some new law, rule, kill access here or there under the guise of protecting the critters.

The same case can be made for the Keys National Marine Sanctuary with its no catch/no take zones for fishermen while divers are OK. Or,restricted zones,research zones it's all the same BS/demchat for get the hell out its going to be ours sooner or later.

The hunta slowly but surely closes off more and more zones every five years and claims its in our own best interest while Marxism marches on.

It's all a huge land grab and the regime wants us to pay for keeping our kids,heirs,friends and others off long time recreational land. It's just another Marxist/terrorist style event.

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posted on 09/05/2010 5:18:34 AM PDT
by rodguy911
( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)

Uhhh.... lets see, guess who gets to count the birds, uhhh.... yeah the same clowns that wind up making the laws,some transparency there.

Park Rangers are so stupid instead of putting the new nests in a box and taking them across the street on the sound side where they would be safe, they leave them there to be run over or killed.Its the environmental way....

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posted on 09/05/2010 5:22:22 AM PDT
by rodguy911
( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)

They are wonderful places to visit,fish in, dive in even live as some of us do.

It;s just a dam shame that we have become targets of the far left environmental Marxists and they won't stop coming at us until we make it very uncomfortable for them.

Down here it's the crocodiles, snail darters and wood rats. They have spent millions to protect them while our road system struggles with inadequacy year after year. Our population in Monroe county actually declined from 80k to 73 k over the past ten years since no one but a few can afford to live here.

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posted on 09/05/2010 5:30:02 AM PDT
by rodguy911
( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)

I have know some of those people on the Outer Banks since 1978 and they are some of the greatest people you will ever meet anywhere. They are not inclined to go after others legally or otherwise who are coming in to change their way of life but that all needs to change.

They need to get the attention of their political reps and go from there. The Liddy Doles and Burrus types need to get an earful of what the far left is attempting to do and then stop them once and for all.

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posted on 09/05/2010 5:34:26 AM PDT
by rodguy911
( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)

The leftist enviro nazis and the Obama Administration are doing this kind of stuff all over the US. From turning the water off to California farms, ‘regulating’ dust on farms(essentially killing American farming), stealing private property and the list goes on and on.

Early one morning we had a very wet snowfall. The snow was sticking to everything. Knowing of a copse of holly trees in the Jamaica Bay bird sanctuary, I thought I could get some great close-up pictures of holly leaves and berries with snow on them. When I got to the parking lot there were cones blocking it off, but there were tire tracks going into the lot. I parked outside the cones and walk up the the visitor's center. Inside were a group of 20-30 people decked out in their best LL Bean accouterments. I also noticed open wine bottles, wine glasses and goatskins being passed around (about 8 AM). I was informed that the sanctuary was closed due to the shut down. When I asked what they were doing there I was told it was for the Winter Bird Count (Audubon Soc. sponsored). Now I know this area very well, so I went and parked in another public lot and took a little used path into the sanctuary. After walking about a half hour during which the snowfall stopped, I spent about four hrs. taking photos. I then decided to approach the visitor's center unseen. This was about 1 PM. The sounds of music and voices were coming from the building and the cars in the parking lot were still covered in fresh snow as were the tracks they made on entering. There were NO footprints leaving the building except the ones to the parking lot. These “nature lovers” had NEVER LEFT THE BUILDING!!!!

This incident and the one I posted up-thread should be remembered whenever some gov’t. bureaucrat cites the numbers of birds in a given area.....THE STATISTICS ARE A FRAUD!!!!!

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posted on 09/05/2010 7:01:23 AM PDT
by Roccus
(......and then there were none.)

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