The Saudis, he continued, “knew he was going to come to the consulate because he had made an appointment… but how did they know what his plans and intentions were, how did they decide that he was someone they needed to ask against, who was worth the risk?"

"Monitoring" him does not necessarily mean physically following in him in vehicles or binoculars on rooftops. What Snowden is suggesting is that email/webform/calendar data or correspondence had been intercepted or monitored which allowed them to be notified of a time and place.

Unless there was written/digital correspondence between his fiancee (and not verbal), it's very likely they were unaware she would be with him.

They did, they were just massively incompetent. They sent a man out wearing his clothes and a fake beard, so they obviously didn’t realise his fiancée was waiting outside and would be able to confirm he never came out. They were obviously trying to cover their tracks. If they’d known, they would have gone out and invited her inside - “your fiancée needs your help signing something” and then made her disappear the same way. His fiancée was the whole reason this unravelled.

The rumor is that Kashoggi talked to a freind of his (who's devices were infected with Pegasus) about being close to acquiring documentary evidence of saudi chemical weapons use in yemen. Which would have inspired them to take the risk of murdering him in such a sloppy and hasty way.

Because he's more capable at reading articles than most redditors. From the same article you are asking the question about:

The assertion that Israeli spyware has been used against Saudi dissidents was first reported by the Canadian research institute Citizen Lab in October. According to the report, NSO's Pegasus spyware had been installed on the phone of Omar Abdulaziz, another exiled Saudi dissident and a friend of Khashoggi's. Abdulaziz said that he used his cell phone to discuss Saudi politics and plan joint projects with Khashoggi in the months before the latter was killed. Abdulaziz claims that his phone was being monitored at the time.

Link to the article? Better not bother reading it and ask other random redditors for an answer! (with the expected amount of emotionally driven answers)

That quote doesn't say they were tracking khashoggi's phone..., which is a very specific claim. It would make sense for him to say this on behalf of the Russian government as part of a deal or him just being a literal asset.

Cyber-security is indeed regulated by Israel's MoD, under the agency SIBAT, but it's only military-related cyber capabilities. The civilian market can just not list their companies as defense companies, and sell their products just like any other civilian product, substantially more free from regulation.

Even more proof these people don’t give a fuck about how they worship their deity. It’s all about control and power. The Muslims vs. Christians vs. Jews thing is just another tool to keep people angry at each other and control them and milk them for everything their worth (including their life).

yep. they don't. they just want more power for them and their allies. equals more money

what does an american or any citizen of any country gain from wars. negative amounts. it equals sending their kids to die.

what does it equal for politicians, a lot of fucking bribery from private sector weapon manufacturing and government weapon deals.

how do terrorists have weapons? how? they get them from arm dealers, arm dealers get them from government operatives or "defense" firms that have their own private dealers. its all a ploy . the U.S government or any government that is a superpower of gun making. doesn't give a fuck. about people dying with their weapons or someone else's.

they gain from it infact. if its theirs, well they made money. if its not theirs. they go there and spread "democracy"

You know why the Saudis don't like Iran? It isn't because if the Sunni v Shia thing, however much the Saudis would like that

The Saudis hate Iran because Iran is now aRepublic, that overthrewa US-backed absolute monarchymuch like theirs

CIA expert

Iran of course is the alleged sinister threat constantly trumpeted by Riyadh—and Israel—a policy designed ultimately to bring the US into a war with Iran. Here too Riyadh more fundamentally fears Iran as an evolving democratic state in an Islamic context; Iran’s elections and fairly transparent politics are all closely followed by the outside world, they matter. Basically Iran will preside over a functioning democratic state far earlier than Saudi Arabia ever will; Saudi Arabia indeed lacks any institutional foundations for such an open political order.

This assumption is very ignorant, Israel has it's own Silicon Valley (nicknamed the "Silicon Wadi") , several dozen R&D labs as well as numerous Israeli startups now call it home, many of these startups are in the business of datamining and security services, as it is a booming market.

I have no doubt several of these firms have contracts with the Israeli government, I have no doubt these firms hire former Mossad hackers and operatives, but guess what? This is the same exact situation in the USA, watch some defcon talks and you'll see how many former CIA agents now work for U.S tech startups, these people need to work.

Secret South African documents reveal that Israel offered to sell nuclear warheads to the apartheid regime, providing the first official documentary evidence of the state's possession of nuclear weapons.

And yet still every single arab and muslim country in the world is Apartheid in 2018, whereas the overwhelming majority of Israelis opposed this ideology and petitioned their government to stop supporting it. I challenge to you find a muslim country where all religions & ethnic groups have equal rights (especially Jews)

You do realize China is far bigger supporter of Myanmar ( yes they supported South Africa as well), Israel arms supply to Myanmar is minuscule compared to support China gives. China itself has committed far bigger genocide of Muslims I still find it interesting most Muslims simply ignore that...

I don't fully hold the American people, Saudi people, Russian people, or Israeli people responsible for all the acts of their respective governments. That said, it's time to start being honest and recognizing that the heads of state in America, Saudia Arabia, Russia, and Israel are as corrupt as any third world despot.

I don't know anything about the accuracy of Snowden's claim. However, it doesn't seem out of the question considering a Saudi dissident in Canada, Omar Abdulaziz, was a victim of a Pegasus attack.

Citizen Lab stumbled upon Abdulaziz's case while conducting a larger investigation into government spyware campaigns worldwide. They had set out to identify countries where spyware known as Pegasus, sold by an Israeli vendor called NSO Group, had been used. The company says it only sells its spyware to governments, for use in serious criminal and national security investigations.

The assertion that Israeli spyware has been used against Saudi dissidents was first reported by the Canadian research institute Citizen Lab in October. According to the report, NSO's Pegasus spyware had been installed on the phone of Omar Abdulaziz, another exiled Saudi dissident and a friend of Khashoggi's. Abdulaziz said that he used his cell phone to discuss Saudi politics and plan joint projects with Khashoggi in the months before the latter was killed. Abdulaziz claims that his phone was being monitored at the time.

Um Snowden was the source for the claims hes famous for leaking. He knows the risks of being a source, so it stands to reason that he wouldn't name his source. Him being the source of his leaks and coming out publicly like he did, is extremely rare in terms of whistleblowers.

“It doesn’t seem far fetched” is a far cry from “there is proof”. How would Snowden know this? He certainly isn’t plugged in to American intelligence at this point. Maybe he’s parroting Russian claims but that doesn’t exactly lend credibility to them.

SA didn't need some high tech spyware to figure out that Khashoggi was critical of their regime since he was a journalist and they could just read what he wrote. As for tracking him down, it's not like he knocked on their doors out of the blue: He made an appointment and showed up on time.

My gawd the Saudis used technology from the country that is nearly number one in tech startups and general technological innovation? How surprising. Where would they get that idea? Surely they would have been better off if they had checked what tech Haiti had produced before jumping to conclusions.

I can't tell if this headline is advertising the tech or making fun of Saudi for using it, but I guess attaching Snowden to the claim gives it credibility. Every day there is a new story about how Saudi might have done it. It's like that OJ Simpson book, "If I Did It"

Did Khashoggi just showed up at their door, but talked about it in private 5 days in advance? When I went to the American consulate I set up a meeting some time in advance. I assume this is what you do in most consulates and embassies, minus the 15 men hit squad.

This is like saying Saudi Arabia used American company's knifes to stab Khashoggi. I bet they used American made computers to track him! Maybe some phones that were manufactured in China! Hell they ordered Indian food while tracking him so really his death is to be also tied into Israel, the US, China, India...

This stupid article serves no purpose other than trying to appeal to anti-Israel fools by giving them some bs way to make it seem like Israel was somehow involved in this.

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 86%. (I'm a bot)

Edward Snowden said on Tuesday that software from the Israeli firm NSO Group Technologies was used to help track the dissident Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, who was killed last month at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul.

Snowden then suggested that the Saudis were able to gain information on Khashoggi by spiying on "His friend, who was also in exile in Canada."

>> Analysis: The dark side of Israeli technology: Six takes on the sale of cyberattack firm NSO. The spyware also allows those carrying out the surveillance to read and write text messages and emails on the phone, to download apps on it and use applications already on the phone.

I'm assuming they used windows or mac computers or processors from Intel or amd. They probably also had glocks or sigs or Berettas. Are we to assume that these companys have some part in this? As awful as the event was, I'm not really sure why it matters who's tech the Saudis used. It actually makes sense that they would have Israeli spyware, as they are kinda sorta are currently allied against Iran.

I don't get why this is news honestly. If it was the spyware of a firm from another country nobody would give a flying fuck, but an Israeli firm's spyware. Oh heaven forbid, what a crime. We golf Israel to higher standards than any other country it seems. It's not even the state for crying out loud. It's an independent firm

This is the first time I think I can say without a doubt that Snowden is basically just another mouth for Putin to spread propaganda from, this is so random and out of left field that it can't be anything but that