Was Chris Benoit's death a conspiracy?

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So, I've always wondered and I read through these in the past but really never finished reading until now.

This set of docs has been floating around the net for a while. It's a good read. Take a look.

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1.) There was no suicide note, 2.) No domestic violence ever recorded, Just Divorce papers Filed and then Dropped 3.) Chris Benoit took out a new life insurance policy, which listed his ex-wife and oldest child David, 14, and Megan, 10, as the beneficiaries. Nancy apparently confronted Chris about it and he refused to change it. Nancy also found out that Chris Benoit set up a new bank account in the name of his ex-wife in Edmonton. 4.) Hulk Hogan formally WCW star claims Chris Benoit’s deceased wife, Nancy. “She was into devil-worship stuff. It was part of her [wrestling] character, but [she was] somebody who gets so close to their character, someone who gets into their character too much. Sometimes these people believe their own publicity.” 5.) Chris Benoit recently had set up a second address for mailing purposes. 6.) Chris Benoit’s profile entry on the Wikipedia website was changed to note that he missed the WWE Vengeance pay-per-view, “due to personal issues, stemming from the death of his wife Nancy” 14 hours before the Benoit family was found dead. 7.) McMahon cautions against ‘rush to judgment’ in Benoit case. (Then why is he doing what he asked us not to do? by removing all benoit’s info off of WWE when he doesn’t know the truth either?) 8.) a year ago he became paranoid and believed he was being followed. He wouldn’t let Nancy leave the house because he believed “someone was out to get them.” (Could Kevin Sullivan been the someone?) 9.) a Bible was placed near each murder victim. (Could this be because Chris Benoit turned religious with Eddie, and Kevin Sullivan was Santanic?) 10.) no attempt to hide the bodies. (Could this be because someone wanted it to look like a murder suicide?) 11.) It is well known that Benoit was not a drinker of alcohol ( could the beer cans and wine bottle be props) 12.) “Roid Rage” doesn’t last 48-72 hours people. 13.) If Chris Benoit (or any person) was gonna kill his whole family and his self why wait 3 days? and look at the time periods? someone was there and did this as torture, and who else has a motive to do this … Kevin Sullivan… 14.) He was due to win the only title he had never won at the pay-per view, and he doesn’t show up? come on. Fayetteville police department need to get off there butts and do this properly… If it wasn’t Kevin Sullivan then it was someone else. But all of the proof is showing it was not Benoit. 15.) Isn’t it funny that Sensatial Sherri Martel died the same night as Nancy Benoit and she was hooked in with Kevin Sullivan (did she know something and had to be kept quite?) and the former tag team partner was found dead in his bed (Biff Wellington) these doen’t seem weird to anyone? 16.) Chris Benoit was at the doctors office on friday… witnesses said he was polite, nice, friendly, smiling, soft spoken, posed for picture, signed autograph… (this doesn’t sound like a man going home to kill his wife the same night… )
17.)It is well known he would always take a flight home if only for an hour or two just to spend time with his family before going on to the next show… (this would give reason for him being there before the pay-per-view event also would go with the theory of him being peronoid that some one was out to get them….)

18.) Saturday, June 23, 2007

Chris Benoit was scheduled to appear at the WWE Smackdown/ ECW live event in Beaumont, Texas

3:30pm
A co-worker received a voice message from Benoit. The message from Benoit stated he missed his flight and over slept and would be late to the WWE Live Event. The co-worker called Benoit back, Benoit confirmed everything he said in his voice message and sounded tired and groggy. Benoit then stated, “I love you”. The co-worker stated that it was “out of context.” (Hmmm could he have been giving him a warning something was wrong, maybe someone was there killing them one by one)

3:42pm
The same co-worker was concerned with Benoit’s tone and demeanor and called Benoit for a second time. Benoit did not answer the call and the co-worker left a message stating “just call me back.” (Hmmm another sign somthing wasn’t right)

3:44pm
Benoit called the co-worker back stating he didn’t answer the call because he was on the phone with Delta changing his flight. Benoit stated he had a real stressful day due to Nancy and Daniel being sick with food poisoning. They discussed travel plans for the WWE Tour of Texas with Benoit still sounding groggy at this point according to the co-worker. ( hmmmm someone forcing him to call back so no one would call police so they can finish the job)

4:30pm
A co-worker who consistently travels with Benoit, called Benoit from outside Houston airport and Benoit answered. Benoit told the co-worker that Nancy was throwing up blood and that Daniel was also throwing up. Benoit thought they had food poisoning. Benoit stated he changed his flight and he would be arriving into Houston at 6:30pm. Benoit told the co-worker to drive onto the WWE event. (Hmmm and no one is still reading between the lines here)

5:35pm
Benoit called WWE Talent Relations stating that his son was throwing up and that he and Nancy were in the hospital with their son, and that Benoit would be taking a later flight into Houston, landing late, but would make the WWE live event in Beaumont. ( ok come on people … first his wife and son where sick, now him and his wife took his son to the hospital?)

6:10pm
A representative of Talent Relations called Benoit. The representative from Talent Relations asked Benoit what time Benoit was getting into Beaumont. Benoit responded he was leaving Atlanta at 9:20pm Eastern time arriving into Houston at 9:24pm Central time. The representative from Talent Relations advised Benoit that it would be too late to make the WWE live event in Beaumont. Benoit apologized citing he had a family emergency. The representative from Talent Relations suggested to Benoit that instead of going to the WWE live event in Beaumont, Benoit should take the flight to Houston, rest up and be ready for the Vengeance Pay-Per-View event. (Oh come on … obviously someone is there and he is trying to send a message something is wrong)

6:13pm
The representative from Talent Relations called Benoit to reconfirm the travel plans with no answer from Benoit. The representative from Talent Relations left a voice message to take the flight and rest up. (OMG this is the perfect time to call the police)

Sunday, June 24, 2007

Text messages sent to co-workers from Chris Benoit and Nancy Benoit’s cell phones:

Text Message 2
Sent to: Two Co-Workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
From: Benoit’s cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:53am
Message: The dogs are in the enclosed pool area. Garage side door is open

WWE made several attempts to contact Benoit via phone and text messages, as well as, the local hospitals in the Atlanta area. As of 11:00 pm Sunday night there was no contact made with Benoit. ( Now they decide to start calling people… and if benoit did do this and these were his friends then why not say I am sorry or forgive me or something….. not send them his address that they already know….NO! cause someone was there murdered them and sent the text messages so they would be found, to make it look like a double murder/ suicide, DUH!!!!!)

I am no CSI or Profiler But come on people it is right there in your face… A Victim being accused ….. The police need to do their jobs.

Monday, June 25, 2007

12:30pm
WWE was notified of text messages sent to the two co-workers.

12:45pm
WWE contacted the Fayetteville County Sheriff’s office and requested them to go to Benoit’s
residence

4:00pm
WWE received a call from the Fayetteville County Sheriff’s office, advising that they entered
the house of Benoit and found 3 deceased bodies (a male, a female and a child). The Fayetteville Sheriff’s office has secured the house as a “major crime scene” and that the Fayetteville County Sheriff’s Office had no further information.

This all could have been prevented if they would have paid attention to his warning signs that someone was killing them……

There are a lot of People who also sees things the way I do… and I am sure there are many more people who also do… just not the right people…

Here's another from ConspiracyFiles the little paragraph at the end about the New World Order is far fetched but, read it:

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I am still trying to put together the pieces of the Chris Benoit double homicide/suicide case. I am working on an exact time line of events, and although I listened to every newscast and read as many articles about it, they all have seemed to jumbled in my brain. Being very close to the subject of investigation in this matter, I have seen how the major media networks have made mistake after mistake in their reporting and everyone smells a cover-up in the midst's. This is a working time line, with questions to follow. Note: these questions need to be answered because there is something that is being covered up by the WWE or perhaps it is just some sick twist in the personality of Chris Benoit. But, undoubtedly we all loved him before this turn of events.

Investigators claim that Chris Benoit killed his wife, son and himself and they are pointing the finger at steroids. From watching the developments in the case, I have recognized the need for clarity in this situation.

Friday: -Benoit is in Georgia. He visits Dr. Astin. No one knows why.
-Later on (it is guessed, 2 hours) he bounds his wife's hands and feet and strangles her to
death. They first reported that her body was found in the living room. Then they said a
family room, which could be similar to a living room, now they say a home office.

Saturday:-Benoit kills his son. First they said that he killed him by smothering him with a pillow,
then they said that he strangled him in a chokehold. But they also said that the boy did
not have any bruises or marks on his neck. Investigators claim Daniel had track marks
from needles on his arm. Rumors fly about Benoit injecting the boy with steroids or
Human Growth Hormone (HGH). WWE attorney says that Daniel had Fragile X
syndrome, a claim which is later refuted by an examination of the boysmedical records.
-Benoit calls co-workers and tells them that he has missed his flight to Texas. He tells
them that his wife and son are suffering from food poisoning and are coughing up blood.
-Benoit misses house show in Texas that night.

Sunday: -Early morning, approx. 3-5 a.m., Benoit sends out five text messages to co-workers.
He sends out messages to Chavo Guerrero and William Steven Regal. He sends one
repeatedly that tells them his physical address. The other one tells them that the dogs
are in the enclosed pool area and the side door is open. Investigators guess that
Benoit was sending these out so someone would come find the bodies.
Benoit hangs himself in his basement using a pulley from a weight machine. Authorities
say the body was "liquefied" because of the 90 degree temperatures in the basement.
-Benoit is slated to win the ECW World Championship that night at the WWE Pay-Per-
View called Vengeance. He obviously doesn't show up and they give the championship
to Johnny Nitro amidst a crowd chanting "We want Benoit."

Monday: -12:01 a.m. A post on Wikipedia states that Chris Benoit missed the Vengeance PPV
due to the death of his wife. The IP number is traced to Stamford, Connecticut, home
to the head quarters of the WWE. It is later discovered that this was just a coincidence
posted from some rumors developed in wrestling chat rooms. If it really was just
harmless, then why did the Feds investigate and seize the computer of this anonymous
poster who knew about the death of Nancy Benoit 14 hours before the police did?
-2:30 p.m. The WWE had the Fayetteville police go to Benoit's residence for a "wellness
check." The police find the three bodies. The story gets more interesting here:
it has now come out that a neighbor is the one who really found the bodies. Or if you
believe other news articles, the police had the neighbor go into the house because the
dogs were "roaming around the property" (note: property is not the same as house) and
that's when she discovered the bodies. Is this neighbor just vying for 15 minutes of
fame? The house is on a huge property of land and is set 200 feet from the main road
on a long gravel road. She claims to have spoken to Benoit on Saturday and he told
her about his families food poisoning. This woman had keys to Benoit's house and
knew the dogs well. Why would a private person like Benoit allow someone to have a
copy of the keys to his house? Why would the cops let her enter the house first? If the
dogs were roaming around the property (which Benoit had already texted and said they
were in the enclosed pool area), what does that have to do with letting the woman go
into the house?
-4:30 p.m. WWE is notified of the death of the Benoit family and that they were found in
their home.
-8:00 p.m. WWE has three hour memorial for Chris Benoit. This was an even more
bizarre occurrence because two weeks earlier Vince McMahon, the owner of the WWE,
faked his death in a car explosion. That night he was supposed to have a memorial
tribute in his name. The show opened up with him speaking and making the viewers
aware of the death of the Benoit family and telling them that it is real, whereas the
of his character wasn't.
-10:00 p.m. Police say that Benoit committed the Double Homicide/Suicide.

If you want to know why this whole turn of events is so surprising, listen to some of the testimonies by his friends who say that Benoit was the nicest guy you could ever meet and always
helped everyone in any way that he could. Is the WWE just trying to cover up their loose steroid policy? We will find out. Dr. Astin was indicted on charges that he prescribed unnecessary drugs to various patients. Two of them being other pro-wrestlers (Rey Mysterio and Mike Gindrack). Dr. Astin prescribed Benoit testosterone, claiming that he was treating Benoit for low testosterone. Why would Benoit have low testosterone? Because when steroid use is stopped, the body has a lower level of testosterone than it normally would. If you want more insider info. I can recommend two great websites, www.pwtorch.com and wwww.wrestlingobserver.com.

There is a very interesting man who is on youtube and myspace saying that Benoit knew about the New World Order and was set up by them and murdered. I do not particularly believe this at all, but have been checking out his blog because some of the things that the various newscasters have been reporting do not add up and he is the only one smart enough to notice. You can check his profile out at www.myspace.com/billthehandyman

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Question:Did Kevin Sullivan do it?

The Fallen Angel was his female sidekick who was evil but had model-quality looks. The "Fallen Angel" later became "Woman" and was Sullivan's real-life wife Nancy, who later left him for fellow professional wrestler Chris Benoit
Once Sullivan sent Pillman packing, the Dungeon and the Horsemen rejoined forces to get rid of Hulk Hogan and his friends. They brought in The Giant, Maxx Muscle and Big Bubba Rogers to help. They even formed the Alliance To End Hulkamania with the Horsemen in a failed attempt to do so. When they couldn't get the job done, Sullivan and Chris Benoit of the Horsemen picked up where Pillman left off and started a feud. This was a brutal feud and lasted over a year. Benoit stole Sullivan's real life wife Woman from him onscreen and ironically, in real life, too. Sullivan brought in Jacquelyn to help him and also added Konnan to the Dungeon.

Sullivan lost a retirement match to Benoit at Bash at the Beach on July 13, 1997. He was already the booker so it gave him more time to do that job. He soon came up with an angle where Woman would be topless on a PPV, but she refused and left WCW. They divorced and she married Benoit.
Sullivan is among those blamed for the 2000 departure of Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, Eddie Guerrero and Perry Saturn from WCW, though by no direct action of his own. After the departure of Eric Bischoff and Vince Russo, the resulting chaos led to Sullivan's promotion to head booker. This move infuriated a number of WCW wrestlers, given Sullivan's history of professional rivalries (notably Benoit) and poor decisions. Sullivan booked Benoit to win the WCW title at Souled Out 2000 in a desperate attempt to quell the uprising, but Benoit, Malenko, Guererro and Saturn would quit the night after, immediately signing with the WWF. Sullivan would be fired before WCW's sale in 2001.

Sullivan still makes occasional appearances on the independent circuit, mainly in Florida. He owns a gym in the Florida Keys, called Froggy's Fitness ([1]). On June 25th 2007 Kevin's ex-wife Nancy was found dead in the home she shared with husband Chris Benoit. On June 26th, police revealed that it was the result of a double murder-suicide perpetrated by Chris Benoit.

Answer: There is also the issue with Sherri. She was close to Kevin. One week to the day before the benoit stuff, Sherri is found dead. Cause is still unknown. Reports say it is an unnatural death, and not a typical "wrestler death"

The story so far about benoit does not add up. They are blaming Roids. yet accourding to his Dr. he tistostrone (sp) levels were low, not high. Even if it was high, he would have no need to tie up nancy, he would of simply beat her todeath.

There is also the time line issue. What reason would he have to wait several hours between the time that nancy was killed and the time the son was killed?? Then several hours after that kill himself??? The reports said that the gym was full of empy liqur bottles. It would of been hard to hang himself sober, almost impossable drunk.

what about the text messages, why were they from both phones??

Also, on wickipida (sp), someone reported the death of nancy 14 hours before the bodys were found. The IP address was traced back to the same city that the WWE HQ is, but not to any of the WWE computers.

Answer 2: Im still 100% Benoit murdered his family so i looked in to and i found very very interesting results...

These two people made two very good arguments.

---Note: Im not trying to persuade you I am just saying hey look into this.

User 1:I think this is something that needs to be looked into. Benoit took Sullivan's wife from him and I think it is possible that Sullivan stewed over this for many years, He may have even resented Daniel as the son he should have had, not Benoits. Sullivan was very dark, macabre, & vengefull. I would not be surprised if he used chloroform to disable Benoit, tie Woman up and put the plan in action. I could see him delight in his "revenge" over Woman & Benoit - with Daniel just icing on the cake. If this were true, he would thoroughly enjoy hanging Benoit just knowing Benoit would be blamed for all 3 killings. I think this would explain the crazy text messages Benoit is suppossed to have sent. I remember how Sullivan used to ramble on making little or no sense in interviews. I think this makes sense. Benoit never rambled incoherrantly. Maybe I am just shocked Benoit could have done this. He always appeared cocky and I am sure wanted things done his way. It is certainly possible Benoit did it. I just hope the true killer is identified and punished appropriatly if it isn't Benoit. If Benoit was the killer I'll just have to accept it. I really hope however it was someone other than Benoit but it is important that the truth come out. This is just a terrible tragedy and my heart goes out to all the Benoit family

--User 2:The tragic deaths of Chris Benoit and his wife Nancy and son Daniel have shocked the wrestling world. The police are calling it a double-murder-suicide, but is it really? Let’s look at some facts. It has been 10 years exactly since Nancy divorced Kevin Sullivan to marry Chris Benoit. In the 1980’s Sullivan, along with his then-wife Nancy, were running a gimmick in wrestling of how they were Satanists, and Nancy was known as “The Fallen Angel.” She later became known as “Woman.” The trouble with the Satanists gimmick was it was for real, and was not a work, or fake. In the 1990’s Kevin Sullivan was the booker for WCW, and he scripted his wife Nancy into having an affair with Chris Benoit who was a member of the Four Horsemen. This made for a good angle, except, the acting became reality as Chris and Nancy actually fell in love and Nancy divorced Sullivan to marry Benoit.

Benoit left the WCW to go to work for the WWE which was then known as the WWF. It is a fact that Sullivan threatened Benoit and told him he would kill him. Yes, that was 10 years ago, but Kevin Sullivan is no dummy. He is known for being a calculating, cold-hearted individual. Today, according to a source close to me, Kevin Sullivan is a high ranking member of the Satanic Church. The police need to consider the possibility that Sullivan carried out these gruesome murders in order to have his revenge, which is what Satanists live for. He could have entered the home, with an accomplice or accomplices and held the Benoit’s at gunpoint, Sullivan could have then bound up Nancy, and made Benoit and his son watch as he strangled the life out of her. Then the next day after making Benoit and his son spend the day in agony, murdered Benoit’s little boy because of his hatred for the offspring of Benoit and Nancy. Then he could have made Benoit wait an entire day before killing him to by hanging him in the basement.

By doing this, not only would Kevin Sullivan have lived out his Satanic Church creed with his lust for revenge, but he would have destroyed Chris Benoit’s reputation which is what has happened now as the wrestling world is attacking the memory of Chris Benoit remembering him as an insane baby killer and wife killer instead of the great World Champion wrestler and friend that he was.

Satanists hate the Bible and the police have stated that a Bible was found next to the bodies of Benoit’s wife and son. This would serve as a bizarre calling card as if to either say “What good did your Bible do you?” or to throw off investigators to keep them from suspecting Sullivan and his Satanists would have been involved.

Another thing to note is the fact that Kevin Sullivan was also associated with Sherri Martel, who died just a few days before the bodies of Chris Benoit, and his family was found, and the full details of Martell’s death have not been made known as of the time of this writing.

I wonder why the police have not even considered investigating the possibility the Kevin Sullivan killed Benoit, Nancy, and their child. It is certainly a possibility worth looking in to.

Also, Benoit was going to be crowned ECW World Champion on Sunday night. Why would he murder his family and kill himself when he was going to be on top again and make lots more money?

Why would he tie his wife up before killing her? He would have no reason to, but Kevin Sullivan sure would!

Sure he had some problems with Nancy, but that was 4 years ago and what married couple doesn’t have problems? Remember also that they reconciled and as far as everyone knows there has been no other incidents reported.

One also needs to consider the fact that Benoit loved his kids and was so proud of his son that was killed. His kids wore suits and ties to his wrestling events and was proud of their dad. He was loved and respected by all those who knew him.

In my opinion, there is no way he would have murdered his family. This whole murder case has Satanists written all over it and Sullivan is a Satanist and has the motive to murder them.

I am encouraging anyone who reads this to send this to police authorities and circulate it on the internet, so these facts can be investigated, before the case is closed and Benoit is written off in history a murderer. If Sullivan is the real killer, justice should be served!

Answer 3: No Kevin Sullivan (a.k.a. WCW's Taskmaster), was at home having a beer with his brother Dave Sullivan while Dave was petting his new rabbit.

They say Chris Benoit killed his own wife and kid, and then himself. Had he not killed himself, his life would've been over anyway.

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Okay, we are all worried about why Chris Benoit did what he did.

I for one always wait to see what the toxicology reports say, but here's something that's just not right: Nancy Benoit's ex-husband was Kevin Sullivan, who was also working with "Sensational" Sherri Martel.

Martel was announced dead at her mothers' home the same day Nancy died.

Kevin Sullivan had a long feud with Chris Benoit. Why is it that nothing has been said or brought up about Kevin? Where was he around the time of the murders? These are questions I would like to have answered!

Now, here's a user on YouTube who made several videos conspiring Chris' death. You should take a look into them:
http://www.youtube.com/user/REASONABLEDOUBTHERE/videos

Last, but not least, here's a link to a conspiracy forum discussing the matter.Link

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Okay, so I provided as much info and evidence as I possibly can. I've always loved Benoit, I don't know what to believe. This is very interesting though.

Yes, this is an old subject, but who cares? Tell me what you think about this.

Legend

Don't think it was in my opinion, I seriously don't think it was a conspiracy. If you write something up well and provide cases that can be misleading as evidence you can convince anyone. For example, many Americans feel Bin Laden had nothing to do with the twin-towers being destroyed, but Bin Laden has mentioned it multiple times in his home tapes that it was him. Is he working for America? But yeah anyway, I'm a disbeliever that this was a conspiracy.

Legend

Okay, give me some links and the evidence that points towards there. You can't make a claim without sources.

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I know this isn't aimed at me but I share a similar belief to KevinLockard23 regarding this incident so here are the sources of my limited research into the subject matter.

Similar Brain Damage Found in Other Athletes

Bailes and his research team took samples from Benoit's brain postmortem and compared these microscopic brain scans to those of a healthy brain.

They found that Benoit's brain showed an advanced form of dementia that appears on the brain scan as brown clumps or tangles. These brown spots are actually dead brain cells, killed off as a result of head trauma, said Bailes.

In Benoit's case, the damage was found in every section of the brain — all four lobes and deep into the brain stem.

"It was extensive throughout Chris' brain," Bailes said. "This is something you should never see in a 40-year-old."

The damage is proof, Bailes said, that Benoit suffered multiple, probably chronic, concussions over the course of many years.

Benoit, in fact, told friends he had suffered "more concussions than he could count."

Benoit's brain showed the same kind of damage Bailes and his team found in four retired NFL players who also suffered multiple concussions and later sank into deep depressions and harmed themselves or others.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3560015#.T1UhGvGqB2A

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This adds support to the concussion theory leading to dementia like state, which in turn leads to this :

Dementia is a syndrome (a group of related symptoms) that is associated with an ongoing decline of the brain and its abilities. These include:
memory
thinking
language
understanding
judgement
People with dementia may also become apathetic, have problems controlling their emotions or behaving appropriately in social situations.

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Dementia/Pages/Introduction.aspx

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Note the dementia causing issues with thinking, understanding and judgement. Not to mention the inability to control his emotions, such as anger. No one knows for sure what happened on that day but the medical evidence points to concussion issues.

Legend

IDK ask this youtube who try to clear Beniot as NOT being the killer! http://www.youtube.com/user/REASONABLEDOUBTHERE but it going hard time as have has NOT LOG IN in more then 4 years now! Has was making to prove why Beniot was not the killer and was going to upload POLICE ERRORS - ERRORS 150
had mad a video called BENOIT - POLICE ERRORS - ERRORS 1-10 / 150 this was his 2nd last video before he stop log in

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My theory, after reading your documents would be that he planned to kill himself but not his family until later on. Simply because it wouldn't have made sense for him to add a new life insurance plan if he was going to take his family down with him anyway.

Legend

My theory, after reading your documents would be that he planned to kill himself but not his family until later on. Simply because it wouldn't have made sense for him to add a new life insurance plan if he was going to take his family down with him anyway.

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Well he got other video there before I really think crack the code and that what the either out in jail or kill this guy as he not log in 4 year now! Nut here a video that is what got to sub and watch his video to his channel back in 2007 when he was making video still

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Well he got other video there before I really think crack the code and that what the either out in jail or kill this guy as he not log in 4 year now! Nut here a video that is what got to sub and watch his video to his channel back in 2007 when he was making video still

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTYwVy1fpHE[/yt]

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plxOk6jyU4E[/yt]

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No, he's not in jail or dead, LOL. That's not how it goes down, he didn't do anything wrong.

@[seabs] that is an interesting article you have there. While you have a valid point, there is some strange stuff on this side. I don't know to be honest.

Legend

lol haven't heard about this. I'm big into reading about conspiracy theories, not that I necessarily think they are true but they just fascinate me to read about. Anything is possible, and I like to keep an open mind. Thanks for the post, no matter how likely it may or may not be or the fact that most will write it off without giving it a second thought.

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I would love it is Benoit did not do it but first and foremost you need to stop saying Sullivan did it because he is a Satanist. It shows the typical close mindedness that has perpetuated through out ages. If your claim was he is your Hollywood Satanist i would say OK he, like you, is misdirected and wrong. But time and time again it is said he is a high member in The Church of Satan, this is where i cry foul.

~WARNING A LESSON AND LOTS OF TEXT~
~THIS MAY GO AGAINST WHAT YOU THINK OR HAVE BEEN TAUGHT~
The Church of Satan was founded by Anton LaVey in 1969, a little newer then you thought huh? It is founded on a handful of principles:
The Nine Satanic Statements
The Nine Satanic Statements outline what "Satan" represents in the Church of Satan:
1)Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence.
2)Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams.
3)Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit.
4)Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates.
5)Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek.
6)Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires.
7)Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development", has become the most vicious animal of all.
8)Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification.
9)Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years.
The Nine Satanic Sins
The Nine Satanic Sins are regarded as:
1) Stupidity—The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.
2) Pretentiousness—Empty posturing can be most irritating and isn’t applying the cardinal rules of Lesser Magic. On equal footing with stupidity for what keeps the money in circulation these days. Everyone’s made to feel like a big shot, whether they can come up with the goods or not.
3) Solipsism—Can be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They won’t. Instead, Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of “Do unto others as they do unto you.” It’s work for most of us and requires constant vigilance lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian standpoint) we are far from that point.
4) Self-deceit—It’s in the “Nine Satanic Statements” but deserves to be repeated here. Another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred cows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered into is when it’s fun, and with awareness. But then, it’s not self-deceit!
5) Herd Conformity—That’s obvious from a Satanic stance. It’s all right to conform to a person’s wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely instead of being enslaved by the whims of the many.
6) Lack of Perspective—Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints—know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world.
7) Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies—Be aware that this is one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something new and different, when in reality it’s something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the creator and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society.
8) Counterproductive Pride—That first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The rule of Satanism is: if it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you’ve painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, I’m sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow, then do it.
9) Lack of Aesthetics—This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. Aesthetics is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off classical standards of beauty and form most of the time so they are discouraged in a consumer society, but an eye for beauty, for balance, is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for greatest magical effectiveness. It’s not what’s supposed to be pleasing—it’s what is. Aesthetics is a personal thing, reflective of one’s own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied.
The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth
The Eleven Satanic rules of the Earth have been given as:
1)Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
2)Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
3)When in another's lair, show them respect or else do not go there.
4)If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat them cruelly and without mercy.
5)Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
6)Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and they cry out to be relieved.
7)Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
8)Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
9)Do not harm little children.
10)Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
11)When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask them to stop. If they don’t stop, destroy them.

In posting this I am breaking their rule of the earth #1 but I am not a member of COS so I am doing nothing wrong. You are correct in saying they have a thing for vengeance statement #5 BUT this act would break multiple rules, sins and statements. Murder is an act that goes against Statements #1 (we live to indulge and to stop one from living break their indulgence), #2 (almost the same as one), #4 (we can say Sullivan didn't have any respect for Chris and Nancy but the son?!), #6 (even in following #5 the only rule you seem to know or sticks in your mind the son is not responsible for any of this) it also goes against Rules #3, #6 (taking a life is something that does not belong to you), #9

So saying Sullivan did it because he is a "high member" of the church of Satan and they honor only vengeance is ridiculous, he would be breaking many other aspects of the religion you claim is his cause. plus the High Priest himself has turned in people to the FBI for stating they wanted to commit murder.
Read the FAQs dealing with Fundamental Beliefs:
http://www.churchofsatan.com/Pages/_FAQ03.html

Anton LaVey himself wrote : "We—unlike Christians—have a real regard for human bodies. The Satanist is the ultimate humanist." To rob one of their existence breaks more rules than it bolsters. Above all COS are Atheists they have NO GOD, they do nothing for a god, devil, demon, etc. they do it for themselves and their existence.

LaVey when asked about Satanic killings, in a Washington Post article, said "These people are not Satanists... They are deranged. But no matter how many they do, they'll never catch up with the Christians. We have centuries of psychopathic killing in the name of God."

~DONE~

So did Benoit do it? I would like to hope not! Did Sullivan do it? I have NO idea! Did a member of the Church of Satan do it? I am certain not!

I think there are many signs something odd happened. If it were truly the result of years of concussions why would his judgement and actions cloud just then? He worked in a profession where getting carried away, losing judgement, even a delayed thought could cause severe injury to you or the person you are working with. Hell look at what happened with a loss of judgement mule kick from Goldberg did to Bret Hart!

Benoit exhibited no signs prior to this of any loss of his prior mental facilities. Could he have just snapped? Yes, it happens to "normal" people all the time.

Member

Wow that is complete nonsense and I have this garbage before. Benoit was messed and he knew it. The man had many concussions. It's sad that what happend happend, but it's even sadder that idiots believe this nonsense.

Legend

I still think it's the concussion problems. The brain is a complex beast and that much damage is bound to cause a multitude of unknown problems. Unusual activity is nothing for the brain look at people with multiple personalty disorder etc...

Member

Wow that is complete nonsense and I have this garbage before. Benoit was messed and he knew it. The man had many concussions. It's sad that what happend happend, but it's even sadder that idiots believe this nonsense.

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I did not say I believed it was a conspiracy! I was stating I do not think the COS or a real member had anything to do with it, like the conspiracy believers do!

I just questioned why the multiple concussions would only manifest an issue then and not at any other time. Not impossible but just odd, usually those who had some type of mental defect show some signs.

The brain is the most complicated part of the human body so it is very well could have been the cause. It would take someone not in their right mind to do this regardless of who did it!

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