marijuana cannabinoids THE TRUTH NEEDS TO BE TOLD....

HolyDiver I had a family member perish from the effects of metastic breast cancer that spread to her brain. I watched first hand how the chemotherapy and radiation treatments reiked havoc on her body and diminished her quality of life. I know now that the chemo & radiation treatments served to weaken her immune system and likely facilitated the spread of cancer through her body.

If you had a family member experience this and new there was a natural plant that had few & marginal side effects and could provide much needed relief and inhibit the growth & spread of cancer cells and prolong your family members life - how would you feel about the federal government or any politician or pharmaceutical company telling you that your family member should not have access to the substance because they stand to profit from withholding it from the public?

I think it's a crime and an absolute travesty. Government and private interest groups prove time and time again they are not in the business of promoting individuals well-being and saving their lives, only profitting off of them. They don't care about people dying or suffering, only the dollar signs.

HolyDiver I had a family member perish from the effects of metastic breast cancer that spread to her brain. I watched first hand how the chemotherapy and radiation treatments reiked havoc on her body and diminished her quality of life. I know now that the chemo & radiation treatments served to weaken her immune system and likely facilitated the spread of cancer through her body.

If you had a family member experience this and new there was a natural plant that had few & marginal side effects and could provide much needed relief and inhibit the growth & spread of cancer cells and prolong your family members life - how would you feel about the federal government or any politician or pharmaceutical company telling you that your family member should not have access to the substance because they stand to profit from withholding it from the public?

I think it's a crime and an absolute travesty. Government and private interest groups prove time and time again they are not in the business of promoting individuals well-being and saving their lives, only profitting off of them. They don't care about people dying or suffering, only the dollar signs.

Quoting: ANHEDONIC

You have an emotional response that you are now putting before rational discussion based on personal experience.

Both of my in-laws went through Chemo and Radiation at Henry Ford Hospital and, four years later, are going gangbusters. Hair grown back and leading an active lifestyle at age 80-something.

I'm watching Tony Iommi, Founding Member and lead guitarist for Black Sabbath, go through it somewhat publicly, and though he's gotten frail and lost his hair, he's finishing a new album and planning an Australian tour.

On the other hand, you had Ronnie James Dio diagnosed with cancer, gone through the treatments, and dead six months later.

Your emotions try to make you feel better about your loss. But the reality is you can't save everyone, even those who have the money and resources to have the finest treatment.

I'm sure Ronnie James Dio had three dozen people tell him, every day, that "Pot cures cancer" and I'd bet the farm that he tried it. Still dead.

What about Steve Jobs? How did the alt.medicine work out for him?

The end of the day: We are Mortal and we will die. The statement "Pot Cures cancer" is invalid, since cancer people with access to pot are dying in droves.

It sullies the waters of valid research when Potheads make statements like this. It makes the whole thing look silly.

It scares away the money that might go towards research.

:ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd:

Okay but how does this address the main subject of the discussion at hand? The point is that THC/cannabis has significant/substantial medicinal applications and yet the Federal government classifies it as a Schedule 1 narcotic (meaning no accepted medicinal uses) yet as I demonstrated above with the RT News video, the FDA mails medical marijuana to 4 U.S. citizens..... Irv Rosenfeld proved to a Federal judge that he would go blind if he did not consume marijuana due to his glaucoma and he proved it with the testimony of his doctors.... Why is Irv Rosenfeld 1 of ony 4 U.S citizens out of 300 million who is permitted federally approved access to a drug that saves his eye sight and provides for his health and well being?

Quoting: ANHEDONIC

I could've sworn there were other, more effective long-term treatments for glaucoma (I was a 91b Medical Specialist assigned to rotation in Optamology/Opthamology clinic for nearly one year at Ft. Ben Harrison, Indiana.) I know we weren't handing out Joints, which (if memory serves) temporarily subjugates the glaucoma creating a endless loop of marijuana usage.

It sounds to me like a Judge wants his pot and has a Doctor he probably golfs with sign off on it.

Saying "I needs my pot for my glaucoma" is a bit like saying you need your Tonic for your scurvey. Not in 2013.

This is a problem with Medicinal Pot: People want to get high.

There are idiots out there who would hold tape five cellphones to their heads 24/7 so they could get their brain-tumor pot on-the-fly.

I think before we hit street with Medical Pot, we should also figure out how to neutralize the euphoric effect so patients will not be effected mentally by their treatment.

Then I'm all on board.

Quoting: Holy_Diver

You need to do more research on this case. You really think a Federal Judge and the Federal government would subvert their own drug laws because 'some judge' wanted to give a guy pot? You know how the government operates and the political pressure that is applied to control rulings.....

Besides, who are you to tell a person how they must treat their condition/disease? It's their body is it not? Since when should the Federal Government or any other politician/judge have authority over your own body? Is that not a god-given and unalienable right to have authority over your own body?

Robert Randall had severe glaucoma but the other 13 patients who qualified for the program suffered from a variety of others conditions and diseases. If you only focus on the glaucoma you lose sight of the issue at hand. Irv Rosenfeld suffers from a condition where tumors grow at the end of all of the long bones in his body and exact pressure on his joints & muscles and produce extreme pain. Should he be forced to use an alternative treatment or prescription drug to treat his very serious condition when he has found that marijuana works effectively for him and with little side effects?

No naive, but a troll. Everyone knows that medical journals and studies are expensive to fund and are only funded by big pharma. If big pharma can't patent it (which they can't), then the study will never see the light of day. Duh!

All information is controlled, it is up to each of us to see that and sift for the truth.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10327591

How am I a troll if OP says "Proven to cure cancer" and I'm asking for the information source where OP gets the courage to make this claim?

What YOU are saying is that OP is wrong, and it's not proven to cure cancer or anything else.

So instead of calling me a troll, why not just tell me there isn't any Proof at all, only anecdotal evidence at best?

If you feel I'm exposing some sort of inadequecy and this brings shame, that's not my fault. I'm "Joe on the street" looking for a cancer cure and what you and OP are doing is pulling up in a Road-show cart, rolling up the side window, and saying "Step right up, folks, it'll cure what ails ye!"

I mean, it's classic, really. What's worse is that neither of you are actually selling the product, but you're doing the work second-hand for the snake oil salesman.

Pathetic!

So, one more time, if there's actual proof like OP says, where can I find it? Understanding, of course, that the definition of proof lies within the scientific method.

HolyDiver I had a family member perish from the effects of metastic breast cancer that spread to her brain. I watched first hand how the chemotherapy and radiation treatments reiked havoc on her body and diminished her quality of life. I know now that the chemo & radiation treatments served to weaken her immune system and likely facilitated the spread of cancer through her body.

If you had a family member experience this and new there was a natural plant that had few & marginal side effects and could provide much needed relief and inhibit the growth & spread of cancer cells and prolong your family members life - how would you feel about the federal government or any politician or pharmaceutical company telling you that your family member should not have access to the substance because they stand to profit from withholding it from the public?

I think it's a crime and an absolute travesty. Government and private interest groups prove time and time again they are not in the business of promoting individuals well-being and saving their lives, only profitting off of them. They don't care about people dying or suffering, only the dollar signs.

Quoting: ANHEDONIC

You have an emotional response that you are now putting before rational discussion based on personal experience.

Both of my in-laws went through Chemo and Radiation at Henry Ford Hospital and, four years later, are going gangbusters. Hair grown back and leading an active lifestyle at age 80-something.

I'm watching Tony Iommi, Founding Member and lead guitarist for Black Sabbath, go through it somewhat publicly, and though he's gotten frail and lost his hair, he's finishing a new album and planning an Australian tour.

On the other hand, you had Ronnie James Dio diagnosed with cancer, gone through the treatments, and dead six months later.

Your emotions try to make you feel better about your loss. But the reality is you can't save everyone, even those who have the money and resources to have the finest treatment.

I'm sure Ronnie James Dio had three dozen people tell him, every day, that "Pot cures cancer" and I'd bet the farm that he tried it. Still dead.

What about Steve Jobs? How did the alt.medicine work out for him?

The end of the day: We are Mortal and we will die. The statement "Pot Cures cancer" is invalid, since cancer people with access to pot are dying in droves.

It sullies the waters of valid research when Potheads make statements like this. It makes the whole thing look silly.

It scares away the money that might go towards research.

Quoting: Holy_Diver

Your ignorance shines brightly and your replies to this discussion show how truly uninformed you are about this subject matter.... Keep sucking the government's teet, they know what's best for you!

Have a good day I'm done viewing this thread.

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"

Besides, who are you to tell a person how they must treat their condition/disease? It's their body is it not? Since when should the Federal Government or any other politician/judge have authority over your own body? Is that not a god-given and unalienable right to have authority over your own body?

Quoting: ANHEDONIC

Forget about me, how about an Insurance provider? They do it all the time. "I can give you pot every day for the rest of your life, or you can have this one-shot treatment that will eliminate glaucoma for 1/10th the cost. Hmmmm, lemme think..."

Robert Randall had severe glaucoma but the other 13 patients who qualified for the program suffered from a variety of others conditions and diseases. If you only focus on the glaucoma you lose sight of the issue at hand. Irv Rosenfeld suffers from a condition where tumors grow at the end of all of the long bones in his body and exact pressure on his joints & muscles and produce extreme pain. Should he be forced to use an alternative treatment or prescription drug to treat his very serious condition when he has found that marijuana works effectively for him and with little side effects?

Quoting: Anhedonic

Again, it would be up the Insurance Provider.

What about the case of Gallavious Pimpjones Robinson, who suffers from crippling anxiety disorder whenever he leaves his house? His Dr, Doctor Spaceman of Herverd Medical by Mail, says he absolutely has to have it, and a LOT OF IT, so he can also help some neighborhood children with their poblems.

And should we, as a state, be handing this stuff out on the taxpayer's dime for the uninsured?

Gallavious thinks we should.

I dont.

:ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd:

Marijuana cannabinoids are actually a form of natural medicine. They're actually good for you. Smoking weed is actually a way to cure a lot of things I think. And the oil has been proven to cure cancer.

I think we've been completely brainwashed in school to believe it's bad for you. Modern research proves it not!

"Medical cannabis refers to the parts of the herb cannabis used as a physician-recommended form of medicine or herbal therapy.... The Cannabis plant has a long history of use as medicine, with historical evidence dating back to 2737 BCE.[1] Cannabis is one of the 50 "fundamental" herbs of traditional Chinese medicine,[2] and is prescribed for a broad range of indications."

lol that chantix has virtually no side effects. lol at it being effective either. it is effective while you are taking it, sure. when you stop taking it, you go right back to smoking. and wtf is chantix anyway, and what long term effects does it have on your brain? glad your wife is a guinea pig for that crap.

and lol at moron who thinks pot shouldn't be legal until it doesn't produce euphoria... who the f is against euphoria? people laughing and smiling really bothers you that much? go hang out with dude whose wife is on chantix... i am sure she is never euphoric.

pot should be legal because there is absolutely nothing illegal about it. jesus would smoke weed, for sure. he would not take chantix, or any of the anti-psychotics or depressants that are fucking the kids up.

you morons know it is only illegal to suppress competition in the many, many areas of commerce that hemp is applicable as a cheap, effective alternative.

it's not illegal cause it's "bad" or euphoria is devilish... everyone should be forced to smoke before they speak on the subject. i guarantee those who have never smoked would be shocked at what little effect it actually has. it makes you a little tired, a little hungry, and a little happy. who the fuck is against eating, sleeping, and happiness?

you morons know it is only illegal to suppress competition in the many, many areas of commerce that hemp is applicable as a cheap, effective alternative.

it's not illegal cause it's "bad" or euphoria is devilish... everyone should be forced to smoke before they speak on the subject. i guarantee those who have never smoked would be shocked at what little effect it actually has. it makes you a little tired, a little hungry, and a little happy. who the fuck is against eating, sleeping, and happiness?

lol that chantix has virtually no side effects. lol at it being effective either. it is effective while you are taking it, sure. when you stop taking it, you go right back to smoking. and wtf is chantix anyway, and what long term effects does it have on your brain? glad your wife is a guinea pig for that crap.

and lol at moron who thinks pot shouldn't be legal until it doesn't produce euphoria... who the f is against euphoria? people laughing and smiling really bothers you that much? go hang out with dude whose wife is on chantix... i am sure she is never euphoric.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14751993

First of all, I'm both guys. My wife and I both took Chantix for about Two Weeks and had no side effects except some fun dreams which we might've had anyway, who knows?

You're a tard, because you don't even know how it works. While you are taking it (Your terms) you still smoke. You're supposed to. You keep taking it until you realize one day that you don't need to smoke, don't want to smoke, and would rather do just about anything else but smoke.

That's it. Both of us have not smoked so much as one hit off a cigarette since then, and we stopped taking it about a week after we stopped smoking, just to be safe. We didn't have weight gain, mood swings, anything of the sort. That was over two years ago now. You could not pay me to smoke a cigarette, and when I see people smoking, I wonder how I ever convinced myself to be "that guy".

What is a Chantix? It's a blocker. It blocks your nicotine receptors so you no longer gain any benefit from a cigarette.

We have saved thousands of dollars, can breathe better, and we don't smell like someone took a shit in an ashtray.

* * *

As for your other problem with me, I love Euphoric people who are laughing and having fun IN CONTEXT Of something. High people are just idiots laughing at nothing without any context. You're raising your hand to the world of the initiated saying "Hey! Look at me! I'm a complete tool and not only that but a Tard to boot!"

So, noted, you're a tard who prefers to smell like someone took a shit in an ashtray.

Good, quality folk.

:ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd:

“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!” -Hunter S. Thompson, "Gonzo"

you morons know it is only illegal to suppress competition in the many, many areas of commerce that hemp is applicable as a cheap, effective alternative.

it's not illegal cause it's "bad" or euphoria is devilish... everyone should be forced to smoke before they speak on the subject. i guarantee those who have never smoked would be shocked at what little effect it actually has. it makes you a little tired, a little hungry, and a little happy. who the fuck is against eating, sleeping, and happiness?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14751993

I have the benefit of having smoked Marijuana in the mid 80's and again in the mid 90's and one time in the mid naughts.

I can tell you that the marijuana you described existed in the mid 80's, but by the mid 90's Marijuana was jacked up beyond recognition.

IN the Naughts, I didn't have that much but just a little bit was the same as a lot of the 90s weed.

They are taking extract of thc and concentrating it and adding it back into the bag like they do legally with Salvia.

It is uncomfortable, debilitating, anti-social and addictive. Don't tell me it isn't, I will show you 10 people I know personally who can't get off it.

:ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd:

Please look at all of the various used for hemp and why we don't have it today. These various companies today without exception first put hemp out of business by making it illegal and now they are making sure it stays illegal. This plant creates all of these things naturally, quickly and without pesticides.

“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!” -Hunter S. Thompson, "Gonzo"

Where is this study and what medical journal has it been published in?

Who proved it, when?

I would like details please. I haven't heard about this amazing, globally important medical breakthrough. Seems like it would've been headline news for months, with nobel peace prizes handed out and time magazine covers this sort of thing.

Quoting: Holy_Diver

hahahahahaha...you actually think they would blast this on msm? do you not how much cheaper cannabis is than chemo? do you know how much of a giant hit big pharma would take if they started admitting you could grow your own medicine? not to mention this would mean more money for farmers than doctors....we can not have up set in the social status they have created...jeez dude where have you been?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35375236

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet...Celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"

Neil deGrasse Tyson

"We were told that the changes in our world would become the catalyst for ones within us..." Fractal Time, Gregg Braden

you morons know it is only illegal to suppress competition in the many, many areas of commerce that hemp is applicable as a cheap, effective alternative.

it's not illegal cause it's "bad" or euphoria is devilish... everyone should be forced to smoke before they speak on the subject. i guarantee those who have never smoked would be shocked at what little effect it actually has. it makes you a little tired, a little hungry, and a little happy. who the fuck is against eating, sleeping, and happiness?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14751993

I have the benefit of having smoked Marijuana in the mid 80's and again in the mid 90's and one time in the mid naughts.

I can tell you that the marijuana you described existed in the mid 80's, but by the mid 90's Marijuana was jacked up beyond recognition.

IN the Naughts, I didn't have that much but just a little bit was the same as a lot of the 90s weed.

They are taking extract of thc and concentrating it and adding it back into the bag like they do legally with Salvia.

It is uncomfortable, debilitating, anti-social and addictive. Don't tell me it isn't, I will show you 10 people I know personally who can't get off it.

The problem is... cannabinoids have been selectively breed out of pot. to produce higher THC levels, which is the compound used for pain? remember the old days when you would laugh for hours after using....now it's sleepy by time and paranoia.. the side effects of the higher THC levels....