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Comentario de Darsh

These books spawn in Dalaran. Apparently there are a number of locations in the city where a book can spawn - either one of the books for this Achievement, or a random flavor book. Their spawntime is not known yet, but they last until someone reads it. When read, they disappear in a few minutes.

Known locations of book spawns:-The Ledgermain Lounge (Inn in center of Dalaran) - 2 empty book shelves on first floor can contain a book, empty book shelve upstairs in the room with 4 beds, and on the floor of the room with one bed.-The Violet Gate (room containing the crystal to port to the ground) - on the floor next to one of the bookcases.-The Violet Hold - on the crates next to the NPC giving the daily regular dungeon quest.-Dalaran Visitor Center (Tabard/Guild building, center of Dalaran) - on the floor between the two bookshelves-The Violet Citadel - on/near bookshelves on the top and bottom level.

Comentario de JizaWatson

Hey, neato! These schools of magic are a direct reference to DnD's schools of magic!

Comentario de Evilbob51

So far, I've found 5 books.

Abjuration: Spawns in the room with the Teleportation Crystal down to Violet Stand on the floor next to a bookshelf. Shares a spawn with The Worst Mage in Dalaran.

Necromancy: Spawns on top floor of Ledgermain Lodge, in the room with an empty bookshelf.

Conjuration: Spawns in the Violet Citadel, on the floor between two bookshelves across from Rhonin's gang.

Divination: Also spawns in Violet Citadel, near the port to Caverns of Time

Transmutation: Spawns on the 1st floor of Ledgermain Lodge, on the northern side of the room, I think

I've a theory that each books shares a spawn with another book, not related to the achievement, as in the case with the Abjuration book. While these books arent helpful with the achievement, they generally are very funny reads. My favorite so far is the Portals are NOT Garbage Bins, found on the top floor of the building where you can buy emblem cloth gear, on the balcony.

Still havent figured out what or how long the spawn times are.

Edit: Alright, new update.Have found the locations of both Enchantment and Illusion.

Enchantment: Spawns on the 2nd story balcony of the store Threads of Fate.

Illusion: Spawns on a box next to the normal dungeon daily quest giver by Violet Hold. Spawns with a funny childrens book :D

Still have not found the location for Introduction. If anyone on Northrend has found this book, I will pay handsomely for its location

Comentario de dinnerbone

The books despawn exactly 3 minutes after someone reads them (That's when you right click and open it, not when you've read it start to finish).I attempted to time how long a book took to respawn, but it was over 30 minutes and I did not have the time. Either each spawn location is on its own individual spawn timer and it's a very very long one, or the timer is shared between all locations.

Comentario de Yender

Can other people read it while its on the 3 min despawn timer, or is it just there taunting people for being slow? :)

Comentario de Promethean

I am up to 7/8 as well with the missing of Introduction, would srsly pay someone a ludicrous amount of money for the location of the last book ~_~

Doesn't look like the book has even popped up for ANYONE yet...and if it has...better stop hiding!

Comentario de theweeirish

What is "The Schools of Arcane Magic - Mastery"?

Comentario de neura

I'm guessing it's another book, going by the flavour of the achievements.

Comentario de incko

just an ordinary book? -.-

Comentario de Valadies

Just a note I don't know if it worth it. But there is a book of orcish language on the second floor of hero's welcome. in the bedroom on the empty bookshelf. It might be one of the random books you get for the school of magic books. I'm thinking it just might be introduction one. Keep an eye out for it. Let me know if it is on Northrend, Bombeecakez.

Also noticed that the timer might be relatively short. Just a lot of people going around looking for em being the problem that no one can find em. Deserted Dalaran ftw!

Comentario de mrrod

Are these books on the Wotlk or on tbc?

Comentario de LCcoldwind

just found Introduction in this new build(9095)it spawn by the Teleportation Crystal (56.7, 45.6), where Abjuration used to be. Abjuration spawn at Dalaran Visitor Center now (52.3, 54.8).after complete "Higher Learning' I get the reward from mailbox, sent by Rhonin.The Schools of Arcane Magic - MasteryUse: Teleports the caster to the spires atop the Violet Citadel. This spell only work in the City of Dalaran."Contains the secrets of higher learning.'

after used the book I got teleport to a room called 'Archmage Vargoth's Retreat', After talked to Archmage Vargoth there he gave me 'Kirin Tor Familiar', teachs how to summon a small non-combat arcane pet!

Comentario de tamuryl

This achievement rewards a pet! Once you have completed the achievement, you can visit Archmage Vargoth atop the Violet Citadel, where you get your "Kirin Tor Familiar" which looks like a blue/purple arcane elemental. It's similar to the Scorchling pet that could drop off of the Fire Festival boss, but much bigger. It stands about chest high to a human.

Comentario de tehninja

ive never played DnD and im not entirely sure, but some of these may be reference to the Elder Scrolls and Oblivion schools of magic.

Comentario de bahblah

These are D&D magic schools. Dungeons and Dragons predates The Elder Scrolls by ~20 years.

Comentario de Toldry

Comentario de Promethean

Finished the set as well, working on getting a good screenshot submited as I type this.

Woot, screenshot is goooooooooooooooooooooo.

Comentario de dachen

of interest:

the old wizard's almanac which appears in the introduction's place in the teleportation crystal's room goes over the arcane aptitude of the races of the alliance, horde, and other creatures of azeroth.

under the alliance races, high elves are noted.under the horde races, the taunka are noted.

thought this was worth mentioning.

Comentario de Vinven

This is an achievement that requires you to locate multiple books in Dalaran. The book names are named after spell schools in D&D and other games. Once finished, mails you a book in the mail that teleports you. http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=43824

Upon using the book, you are able to obtain a new non-combat pet. It appears similar to the Warlock pet Voidwalker, but blue-purple. The same model of the Arcane Anomoly in Karazhan. http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44738

The book locations are here. Please note either the book will spawn, or an alternative non-achievement book. After reading either of the books, they will despawn. Thus if you get the non-achievement one, you would need to wait for the other one to appear.

Introduction: Spawns in the Teleportation Crystal room, on the floor.Divination: Spawns in Violet Citadel, near the port to Caverns of Time.Necromancy: Spawns on top floor of Ledgermain Lodge, in a room with an empty bookshelf.Conjuration: Spawns in the Violet Citadel, on the bottom floor bookshelf right of Rhonin.Abjuration: Spawns in the Dalaran Visitor Center, next to the chair and bookshelves.Transmutation: Spawns on the bottom floor of Ledgermain Lodge, in the empty bookshelf.Enchantment: Spawns on the second story balcony of the store Threads of Fate.Illusion: Spawns on a box next to the normal dungeon daily quest giver by Violet Hold.

Comentario de Fewk

Pretty sure the title of this acheivement is a reference to the movie titled "Higher Learning", released in 1995.

Comentario de Eliasar

I think they're missing Evocation/Invocation. I don't know if 4th ed. uses those or not.

Comentario de yoshi9270

is it possible to have a lock get achievement then teleport friends there to get pet also, or will he only give pet if u completed achievement?

Comentario de Avitar

I think it has to do with the fact that the reward takes you to the spires atop the Violet Citadel.

Comentario de Shoningun

Herm get a twenty lock with two refer a friends summon them up there and then start selling the pets for goldSummons=PROFIT!

Comentario de Azere

Step 1 Find books, Step 2 find friends, Step 3 ... ?, Step 4 Profit!

Comentario de collinaraptor

Is this book a one shot deal, or do you get to keep it? Is it tradeable with other players?

Comentario de NuclearNorma

You don't receive the book, as such. Just read it, and it'll show up as done on your achievement tracker. It then despawns.

Comentario de Ceruleagos

I decided to check into the whole three hour timer I found on a beta forum post. I managed to get a full clear of the books after a server reset this morning at 9:50 AM (and not one of them was a higher learning one).

Waited for a respawn on the first book I picked up. It re-appeared not at 12:50 PM but at 1:04 PM. Since then I've been running circles to see when the books appear. They all don't spawn at once and not in the order they were originally despawned. For example, this run through only Thread's Fate, the top room in the inn, and the teleport building had books.

So far two circles throughout the city and not one of the higher learning has spawned. If the 3 minute to despawn timer is correct and I do these laps within 1 minute of each other, there's no possible way I am missing a book.

Hope this information is useful for someone. Trying to get this achievement done before Dalaran is swarmed.

Comentario de Yanagi

Is anyone aware of a level requirement for this? I ran around Dalaran last night on my server with no more than 4-5 people in the city at any given time for several hours, talking with guildies and looking for the books.

I see many books that look like they *would* be interactive, but are not (in the places indicated here, and in object locations for each individual item).

All I find are the journals, and miscellaneous books. I was looking around while level 72.

Any ideas?

Comentario de Finks

Could someone post screen shots of all the locations? I am getting huge doubts on a couple of the locations.

Comentario de Goonsac

has anyone figured out the respawn time of the books, like say if u find one thats either achievement or a nonachievement book?

Comentario de Kioran

While I haven't taken any screen shots, I have found a book in every location posted (both misc. books and achievement books). It just isn't a guarantee that a book will always be there; sometimes none spawn at all.

Comentario de Ceruleagos

I remember someone asking for screen shots last night when one of my final books spawned. Here's one I took of the Transmutation one available downstairs in the inn: http://i37.tinypic.com/6sujgz.jpg

Known Spawns:Teleportation Crystal Room (TCR) - On floor, next to the bookcase to the left facing away from the crystal.Violet Hold (VH) - On a box near the Normal Instance Daily Quest GiverLegerdemain Lounge 1 (LL1) - Bottom floor of Legerdemain Lounge, on the empty bookshelf near the eastern doorway.Legerdemain Lounge (LL3) - Top floor of Legerdemain Lounge, on the empty bookshelf.Violet Citadel 1 (VC1) - On the floor between two bookshelves to the left of Rhonin.Violet Citadel 3 (VC3) - On the floor in front of the bookcase, near the Caverns of Time Portal.Threads of Fate (ToF) - On a box, on the balcony of the Threads of Fate.Dalaran Visitor's Center (DVC) - On the floor, in front of the stool with the books on it.

All book spawns seem to be on a 3 hour respawn timer, and all but LL1, LL4, and VC1 respawn on server crash/restart.

Quoted just in case it gets deleted over time. Edited to remove the "odd" locations that no one seems to have found the books in. Maybe they spawned there during beta, but no longer during live? Each of the achievement books listed have more details about their spawns, not sure if I believe the second half of the quoted post or not. Leaving it up any ways for folks.

Comentario de Arno00

Got this achievement tonight, and as Ceruleagos says, i found them all on these locations over 4 days.

Comentario de TylerSR

Looks like they spawn around 3 hours after they have been read, but they share the place with another book, which means at each location there are 2 books which spawn randomly every 3 hours from being read. This means you can be unlucky that the none Schools of Arcane Magic book spawns 2 times in a row or more.

I found 4 books today, and the way I did it, was to go to all the locations read the books (if there where any) head out and lvl some more, and then return everytime my heartstone was ready again. did this for 10 hours.

Comentario de Megami

No, when they spawn they are books that anyone can read. The others are simply there to fool you.

Comentario de Tinox

I'd like to mention that in my experience, the books are not on a strict 3-hour timer. I've seen some spawn after 3 hours, some after 4 hours, and some anywhere between those two limits. I'm now fairly convinced that the book spawn randomly 3 to 4 hours after they've been read. I'll try to confirm this.

Comentario de Spiderkeg

Is the spawn rate really 3 hours (about)? I found a fake book, read it, noted the time, and returned 2.50 hours later and sat. Nothing spawned. So what's the deal?

Comentario de Randsome

Does anyone know if there's a limit on the number of books that can be up? I need three more, and I'm wondering if I should be running around despawning books I don't need. I've been leaving them up for other people, but I haven't seen one of the three I need in about 4 hours...

To answer my own question, there doesn't seem to be! I logged in after maintenance today and found every single book up.

So unless you want to be nice and run around despawning the fake books for people, you can just camp that last one you need. :P

Comentario de TheLostOne

All I've found so far is one book that isn't part of the achievement. I've been checking the locations and seen nothing. So either someone is beating me to them, or there's more to it, like needing to be a certain level or at a certain rep level. Anyone know?

Comentario de Tinox

There's no requirement. Just think of it like this. Other people are trying to read the books, and one book will not stay spawned long before being read. If we assume it will stay there 5 minutes before despawning, you're looking for a book that is there for 5 minutes every 3 or 4 hours. Don't be surprised if you don't find it right away.

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Comentario de GreyOTG

I'm only missing Introduction. 5 or 6 times so far when I caught it up, it's been the wrong book. Due to its location, it's probably the hardest book to get.

Perhaps it's just the way random works but I noticed something. I've never seen a book spawn before my eyes. I've waited past the 3hr mark. 5 times the instant I left the area and ran around Dalaran, when I came back the book was there.

Also, it's my opinion that VC1, 2, and 3 are linked. Twice I read VC2 and waited for it to respawn and on its 3hr+ mark, found VC3 up instead.

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Comentario de EnnEff

I have a theory about these. I looked around for half an hour after hitting one and didn't see any, then checked The Silver Enclave and found one (though not a Schools book). As soon as I hit that, I found another couple books within ten minutes. Went around for another ten with no books, then went back to Silver Enclave and hit the book there again, then found another book.

Basically, I think there can only be 1-2 of them up at any given time so when you make one disappear, it allows the possibility of the others spawning.

Comentario de Phaeth

Okay I've tried this all day. It's not a three hour cool-down; It's random - sometimes 1 1/2 hrs sometimes 3 hrs.. sometimes .. who knows? It gave me a headache BUT I got 4 of the Arcane Magic books! I submitted a screen-shot of map with all the spawn locations. Hopefully they'll add it. (along with the my key notes ;) )

So far I've seen most of the spawn points in this thread, so keep looking. And good luck!

Comentario de JediSkanks

Okay, I just got this achievement. I got it over 4 days, and spent about 10-12 hours total on it.

I have to agree with the above poster that the books spawn randomly 3-4 hours after they've been read. Once I read a book (a non-achievement book), I'd mark down the time and go out and quest. I'd come back a bit before 3 hours had passed and run around in a circle, hitting all the spawn points for an hour waiting for it to respawn. When I found another book in a different spawn point, I'd mark down the time. Then the cycle would start again. Every single time (every time) a book spawned 3-4 hours after I had read it. This didn't fail me once.

This method is nice because you can quest in the 3 hours you're waiting, so you don't waste that much time on the achievement. It also gets easier the more achievement books you find, because you don't have to hit as many spawn points when you're running around in your little circle. And you can get really lucky. I've found two achievement books within an hour of each other. I think for me it was 2 books the first day, 2 books the second, 3 books the third, and one book today. Also, most of the books reset after a server restart so the best time to do this is right after the server comes up. You can run around and find a bunch of books at once and mark down the times, and then you'll know that they will all spawn 3-4 hours later.

I've definitely seen more than 2 books up at once, and I just don't think that despawning a book in one location will trigger a new spawn in a different location. That hasn't been my experience. Anyway, any questions feel free to ask.

ps. the elemental pet is so worth it!

Comentario de FireFoxx

I Just love the fluffy bunny thingy! :D

Comentario de Duerma

Yep, Evocation is missing from the standard D&D schools. However, given the nature of magic that people are familiar with (arcane missiles! Fireballs! Shadow bolt! Frost shock!), I think it's safe to assume that Evocation is the one school that we don't need to be educated about. ;)

Comentario de Manip

The first in the portal building, the other three in the Visitor's Centre. So the spawns at least at that location aren't "between 3-4 hours" as even one 4+ hour respawn shows.

Also two of my friends are also waiting on the Visitor's Centre book so it does make me wonder if it is rarer than things like the introduction which almost everyone has. Although the sample of three people is too small to be meaningful.

Comentario de tmprice

Waiting on last book to spawn, have all of them except Conjuration. The spawn rate deffinently isnt 3 hours on the dot, Im waiting at the spawn point now and its benn 3 hrs 25 mins. Hopefully I wont have to wait to terribly much longer. I cant wait to get the cute little guy :)

Comentario de xvicodinx

Introduction is in the room above the room that learns you to use the crystal :D

Comentario de HinataArygos

Also one spawn upstairs in A Hero's Welcome on the second shelf of the empty bookshelf. Found a joke book there was a Common to Orcish dictionary. By far the funniest one yet.

Comentario de LiggyEU

The vanity pet reward is an arcane elemental in a big size. A little bigger than a gnome I guess. The animation of the Kirin Tor Familar(that you get by using the reward of the achievment, and talking with Vagoth) is just standard elemental(fire elemental, you know ;)). it have an idle effect that makes 4 arcane explosions in a row, with sound.

Comentario de Venorize

Books have a randomized set timer.

After reading the book, they will go on either a;

3 hour3.5 hour4 hour4.5 hour5 hour

timer, randomly chosen. So don't think you can sit there and count it exactly, you might be waiting longer than 3 hours, or less, its random to keep people from 'easily timing' the respawns and getting the achievement easily. This is a tough one, but well within reach.

Comentario de pshaw

Picture guide to book hunting.

When doing this achievement I found one of the most annoying bits was not knowing where to look for a book you had never seen spawn yet. So I decided I would take some screens and post the spawn locations so you know where to look and if it's not there be on your merry way.

Comentario de Arikara

*sigh* you ppl seem to be concentrated on spawn rates and such... check down and see how many times these books have been 'moved'. No, each book doesnt spawn after that to that time, great deal more random then that, and i think blizz also made it so... possible to give ya somthing to puzzle out, idk, i just know that they're a great deal more random then you suggest with spawn rates and so, nah i suggest for you to take a look around at some of the known places whenever u visit dalaran... you should get it SOME time if you do that whenever... maybe not as fast but you'll have lots of other stuff to do... kinda

woops hadnt noticed Venorize... yeap that should be something to do with it xD

Comentario de tmprice

Yay! Finally got my little guy last nite :DHe is too cute! Well to everyone still trying dont give up..Also ive noticed the spawn rates are between 3.10- 4.10 hoursGood luck to everyone that is still trying :)

Comentario de shadetree

Keeping a log of the spawn times really helps. I also found that it sort of made me "keeper of the times" for the other people searching for the books. I would tell everyone I met the spawn times and had an abundance of people show up and help camp around those times. Having an extra pair or eyes (or 5 or 6 extra) really makes this grind go faster.

If you're starting out alone on this, I did come up with an easy route to run. If you run this "patrol", you're guaranteed to start finding the books and getting times. (collect the real and fake times, it helps the people you friend who don't have the book yet. I kept all of the times until I had every book)

The Route:

upper citadel: on the ground by the caverns of time portal lady and the bookshelf.lower citadel: a 2nd book on the bottom shelf of the bookshelf. threads of fate: upper balcony on a box. (jump off the balcony to the left)visitor center: on the ground between the bookshelvesviolet hold: left side by daily quest giver on a box.teleport room: on ground by bookshelf with no chairs.lower ledgermain: empty bookshelf furthest from stairs.upper ledgermain: empty bookshelf in bedroom.jump off balcony and run to upper citadel.. rinse, repeat...

Timing:

Pop times ranged between 3 and 4 hours. I told everyone to plan for 3 hour spawns but be prepared for 4. I kept all of my times in server time. That way everyone knew when I was talking about.

remember, make lots of friends and teach everyone about how these books drop and the pop time. give them your times.. you'll start seeing the same people looking for these books! I've had these new friends camping book spots while i was patrolling others. Get the times from them when a book drops.

FYI, with me keeping times and all of the help that I received from fellow book collectors, I got all 8 books in around 16 hours. (we had a lot of fake books drop).

Good luck, have fun.. and keep your minesweeper handy!

Comentario de hwhhg

They do have specific location for each book, I'm not sure the spawn time for each book yet.

Comentario de Silvertiger

After working on this for too long I feel confident in saying that the books respawn with a random timeer between 2.5 hours to 3.5 hours. No book seems to have a static respwn time as far as i can tell. I have followed all 8 books for a week now and this seems to hold true. Each time I recorded a book spawn it spawned while I was standing there, so there is no guesswork as to the actual spawn time I got another book a bit ago so i am only tracking the 2 books I still need.

Comentario de Jaygoodie

After working on this quest for a week or so, I can CONFIRM that the books:1) Upon spawning, last 3 minutes after read, and afterwards will vanish.2) They will re-appear between 3 and 4 hours. This means if a book spawned at 12:00, expect the next book between 3:00 and 4:00.3) Have many "dud" books that can also spawn in their place.

I have not seen one book spawn in any of the "other" places listed above, and I have been working on this achievement diligently for 4-5 days, with strict timers.

Comentario de Jaygoodie

This map does not include the Visitor Center location.

Comentario de shardin

It's a good idea for a shaman, if your doing this, to put a sentry totem down at one of the spawns. or warlocks eye of kilrogg, also eye of the best for hunters

Comentario de Furydeath

I found the Transmutation book and it didn't stay for 3 mins it just despawn right after i read it.

Comentario de kozom1234

it may count as exploiting, just get a lock and a friend who also have this achievement to port to the top of the tower, then offer ports up there for gold/free so that everyone can get one :D

Comentario de calmlunatic

I wish more ppl would do this. During the scourge invasions people were farming runestones or whatever by killing the scourge and so when the invasions were taking place, those who were at the location didn't tell anyone else who was asking in General where the invasions were taking place.

Comentario de Cecyll

Priests have this achievement so easy... Just stand at either the Necromancy spawn or Enchantment spawn and Mind Vision to other NPCs to check the other spawns! You just need 7 (or 9) macros, consisting entirely of:/tar NPC/cast Mind Vision

You have to be standing at the Necromancy (Inn, top floor) spawn or the Enchantment (Threads of Fate, balcony) spawn because there aren't any NPCs you can reliably use. It helps if you already have one of these books too, or have a friend to camp with you. (This post assumes you don't have a friend.)

Here's a list of NPCs that are near the other 6 books: (With recommended macro names, refered to in the MV chain info.)Divination (Div) - ZidormiConjuration )Con) - Archmage Aethas SunreaverAbjuration (Ab) - Elizabeth RossTransmutation (Tran) - Arille AzuregazeNecromancy (Nec) - Afsaneh Asrar (occasionally patrols the top floor of the innIntroduction (Int) - Archmage CelindraIllusion (ill)- Archmage TimearEmeline Fizzlefry (Em) - This isn't a book, it's a standing NPC outside of the inn. You'll only need a macro for this NPC if you're starting from Necromancy!Fitz Proudbreeze (Fitz) - This isn't a book, it's a standing NPC outside of the Violet Citadel. You'll only need a macro for this NPC if you're starting from Necromancy!

Mind Vision chains: (You'll have to jump or break Mind Vision after checking the last book in the chain for this to work!)Starting from Enchantment: (Only 7 macros!)1. Con to Div.2. Ab to Int to Ill.3. Tran to Nec.4. Repeat. Be sure to check for Enchantment!

Starting from Necromancy: (Uses the extra 2 macros, for 9 total.)1. Tran to Em to Fitz to Con to Div.2. Int to Ill.3. Ab.4. Repeat. You'll have to run over to check Enchantment! (Or have a friend there.)

I personally prefer starting from Enchantment, as I only had Enchantment, Divination and Abjuration left to grab when I thought of doing this.

Comentario de Oberscht

Maybe because you could find that out by just pressing "M".

Comentario de Blackwing

Maybe because you could find that out by just pressing "M".

no. no you could not. the map had skull marks over the region that was being attacked by the scourge, but there was no indication of where in the region they were attacking.

Comentario de Sokuke

found 2 and was patrolling other spawns for 1h. only wrong books :(

Comentario de Noobynoo

Holy Bejebus your Right!I just Noticed Every Single Book is one of the Magic Schools from Dungeon's and Dragons!Nice Little Reference There.

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Comentario de Isilme

In addition to respawning on planned server restarts, books also respawn if the world server goes down for even a tiny amount of time. Was lucky to be in Dalaran when the world server hiccuped and booted everyone offline. I found one of the last two books I needed when it came back up. : )

Comentario de Loktar

Not a reference exactly.These are the real schools of magic in and out of DnD.But,yes when I saw it I remembered DnD

Comentario de Everdreamer

Additional detailed information to tell you where to gaze at:

Introduction: Spawns in the Teleportation Crystal room, on the floor.

Turn right while you enter the room from the east door (now you are facing north). The book spawns on the floor at the corner, right to the bookshelf you see.

Divination: Spawns in Violet Citadel, near the port to Caverns of Time.

There are two bookshelves on the left side of the CoT portal. The book spawns not in them but between them... on the floor.

Necromancy: Spawns on top floor of Ledgermain Lodge, in a room with an empty bookshelf.

Obviously there is only one room with an empty bookshelf -- the left one. The book pops at mid level of the bookshelf.

Conjuration: Spawns in the Violet Citadel, on the bottom floor bookshelf right of Rhonin.

When you face Rhonin, on your righthand side there are two shelves, at the bottom level of the left shelf there is a book on the right and empty slot on the left, the book pops at left slot.

Abjuration: Spawns in the Dalaran Visitor Center, next to the chair and bookshelves.

FYI Visitor Center is where the Guild Master and Tabard Vendor are.It pops on the floor on the right side next to the small table, in front of the right chair.

Transmutation: Spawns on the bottom floor of Ledgermain Lodge, in the empty bookshelf.

There are two empty bookshelves in the Lounge. You are looking for the right one (while you enter), next to a stove. The book pops at mid level of the bookshelf.

Enchantment: Spawns on the second story balcony of the store Threads of Fate.

On the balcony there are 3 (or 4) boxes. The right box with an apple on it, the middle box with a pot and a bottle on it, and the left box -- usually nothing on it. The book pops on the left box.

Illusion: Spawns on a box next to the normal dungeon daily quest giver by Violet Hold.

The quest giver is in the northern end (I know it's trivial :p). There are two boxes behind him, the book pops on the box close to the corner.

Comentario de Hopkins555

i have found All the books in Dalaran if you need to know were they are just let me know =)

Comentario de ContentiousKT

Introduction: 57,46 The Violet Gate On the floor next to the bookcase on the right as you enter.

Abjuration: 53,55 Dalaran Visitor's Center On the floor in front of the stool with the books on it.

Conjuration: 31,46 Violet Citadel (lower level) – On the bottom shelf of the left bookcase on the right-hand side as you enter.

Divination: 27,52 Violet Citadel (upper level) On the floor in front of the bookshelves on the left at the top of the stairs.

Enchantment: 43,47 Threads of Fate (upper level) On a box on the balcony.

Illusion: 65,53 Violet Hold On a box on the left side as you enter near Archmage Timear.

Necromancy: 47,39 Legerdemain Lounge (upper level) On the empty bookshelf in the left bedroom.

Books are on spawn timers that are between 3 and 4 hours long. Once a book has been read, it will despawn in 3 minutes. Random books also spawn at these locations and are on the same timers.

Comentario de NeeAnderTall

A World Server crash happened 12-01-08 @ 9:00 p.m. Pacific time. Upon logging back in all books were present in Dalaran in exactly the places stipulated by prior posters here, my sincere thanks. I recommend if you witness a wolrd server crash, log back ASAP to Dalaran and scramble quickly for your books.

The transmutation book wasn't, just the non-achievement book in it's place. Now I only have 1 to wait for.

Comentario de wamarler

Heh, "real" school of magic? :-p

Comentario de Kaetrii

Out of a crash (whole server offline), a reset, and maintenance, every single book was up, and every single book was a dummy. I witnessed all of them personally. Now the world server crashed (rest of the server intact) and every book was up, and only 3 were real. I'll never get the last book I need...

Comentario de kerluna

I kind of want to say "Screw you Blizz!" on this Achievement. I've spent upwards of five hours running the circuit in Dalaran looking for ANY of these books, and I've never seen a single one, only the dummy books. I come back to Dalaran every few hours and spend about an hour running around the city. I've done this daily for two weeks.

With my luck, I may NEVER get this achievement, and thus never get the pet. This isn't a matter of skill or ability, this is a matter of being lucky.

Comentario de Koori

After today's maintenance for the first time there wasn't a book for "The Schools of Arcane Magic - Illusion" real or otherwise. Last book I needed so I hung out and chatted with people waiting too. It spawned about 90 minutes later. And I finally can put this achievement behind me. I didn't check any other books but considering one of the people that was waiting for me found 2 more books up a short time later (none of the real ones) I'd have to say they weren't there at server up either.

Comentario de Chronalis

What someone said above is true; All of the gameobjects do spawn after maintenance. However, some can be the decoy books too. After EU maintenance this morning, i did manage to grab 2 more, some weren't spawned, but i'm assuming someone had read them already. The majority of the books were up though.

Comentario de kevlar02

This achievement is a huge time sink. I recommend a book of the Terry Goodkind variation, something about 1K pages plus, you'll probably read the entire thing before you get this done. As far as a three hour timer is concerned I have seven of the eight books thus far and have seen no indication of this. While a book usually spawns roughly every three hours in each location it is usually of the "Fluffy Bunny" variation, for every real book I came across there were three or four useless books.

Now I figured, I have one left I'll sit and wait it out do some homework, read some news, whatever. So, long story short this little escapade began nigh ten hours ago, one book spawn, useless of course.

During this time of jack batting around waiting, WoW was always open and the spawn point was visible, so no there was no way I missed it.

I was not during this time actively checking the other points, why should I? So all I can figure at this point is the spawns are linked and there is a minimum cooldown shared between the books. I.E. nobody grabs the spawned one(s), yes sometimes they come in pairs, never two real ones at a time(so far as I've seen) and they appear simultaneously. The timer will not restart.

What I have noticed however is during the peak times these spawn alot faster and there is a drop-off in the spawn rate during slow times. I realize these are quite some assumptions. However, they are what I and others have come to notice.

Motto: Read the useless books don't just leave them there, and try for these at more peak times when the spawn rate appears to be higher.

Happy Hunting

Edit: After this event I decided to test the linked theory. So, I found one at 11:01, dummy book, despawned 11:04. Another book appeared at 11:24, another dummy. I will test further. Found a real one at 11:59, i may have missed this one on a previous pass. But, these appear to be on a twenty minute timer before a dummy spawns and thirty for a real book.

Comentario de Elobelia

I managed to grab most of them just by running around whenever I happened to be in Dalaran/thought of it. I would run around in a circle and look in all the locations. Found the first four at a rate of one a day, then the next two a few days later. Camped the final two, and the last one took me 3 1/2 hours of waiting and looking at the crate every minute or so to see if it spawned. Frustrating, but the pet is worth it!

Comentario de Tinkabell

I fiiiinnnallly got it done today - so i want to share the great guide i found for it - SADLY - Blizz deleted the post so i couldnt thank the original person who posted it.. Hope it helps!

Note: Books are on about a 3 hour 20min timer for me - and the Non-Achievement Books are the fake books that spawn in the same spots as the Higher Learning books - about 25 or so!

Known Spawns: Teleportation Crystal Room (TCR) - On floor, next to the bookcase to the left facing away from the crystal. Violet Hold (VH) - On a box near the Normal Instance Daily Quest Giver Legerdemain Lounge 1 (LL1) - Bottom floor of Legerdemain Lounge, on the empty bookshelf near the eastern doorway. Legerdemain Lounge 2 (LL2) - Bottom floor of Legerdemain Lounge, on the empty bookshelf near the western doorway. Legerdemain Lounge (LL3) - Top floor of Legerdemain Lounge, on the empty bookshelf. Legerdemain Lounge (LL4) - Top floor of Legerdemain Lounge, on the floor next to the bookshelf in the room with 1 bed. Violet Citadel 1 (VC1) - On the floor between two bookshelves to the left of Rhonin. Violet Citadel 2 (VC2) - On the bottom shelf of the left bookcase, to the right of Rhonin. Violet Citadel 3 (VC3) - On the floor in front of the bookcase, near the Caverns of Time Portal. Threads of Fate (ToF) - On a box, on the balcony of the Threads of Fate. Dalaran Visitor's Center (DVC) - On the floor, in front of the stool with the books on it.

Comentario de Lakaen

the books have a 3-5 hour respawn and there is a 50% chance that it will spawn a "joke book"

Comentario de Malvelos

I can confirm that Hazu is correct. Vargoth acts the same to those who haven't completed the achievement as to those who have already received their reward.

It's not possible to get the pet without completing the achievement, no matter what.

Comentario de Katrak

I've been working on this the past couple days. I noticed today after the restart, that all spawn locations had books. Although, only one was an achievement book. After 4 hours only the one in the Teleportation room respawned - as another Joke book.

This could support individual spawn timers for each location.

Comentario de airtonix

This should be obvious since quest mechanics & dialouge progression have pre-requisites.

Completing the achievement sets a flag on your toons database records, for when you talk to the NPC.

Having this flag will allow dialouge to progress further than the greeting text every npc provides.

Comentario de RyanLuster88

ive noticed the 3hour timer is TRUE for all books - except in the violet citidel : I mshed a GM and reported the bug of a book not spawing for over 7 hours (no joke, no nothing) and they said theyll look into it. So far im at the 20 hour mark, i got 7 of 8 :D

Comentario de Akira2007

I'm playing on EU-Lothar and i created an extra chat channel for this achievement.After a while we had enough people to camp every spawn point for most of the time.I have got the achievement on two different chars now, working on the third and can report the following facts:

Spawn locationsI can confirm the following spawn locations:Teleportation Crystal Room (TCR) - On floor, next to the bookcase to the left facing away from the crystal.Violet Hold (VH) - On a box near the Normal Instance Daily Quest GiverLegerdemain Lounge 1 (LL1) - Bottom floor of Legerdemain Lounge, on the empty bookshelf near the eastern doorway.Legerdemain Lounge (LL3) - Top floor of Legerdemain Lounge, on the empty bookshelf.Violet Citadel 2 (VC2) - On the bottom shelf of the left bookcase, to the right of Rhonin.Violet Citadel 3 (VC3) - On the floor in front of the bookcase, near the Caverns of Time Portal.Threads of Fate (ToF) - On a box, on the balcony of the Threads of Fate.Dalaran Visitor's Center (DVC) - On the floor, in front of the stool with the books on it.

At the following locations spawn NO books.- Legerdemain Lounge 2 (LL2) - Bottom floor of Legerdemain Lounge, on the empty bookshelf near the western doorway.- Legerdemain Lounge (LL4) - Top floor of Legerdemain Lounge, on the floor next to the bookshelf in the room with 1 bed.- Violet Citadel 1 (VC1) - On the floor between two bookshelves to the left of Rhonin.

Respawn Timer:

Respawn Timer for all spawn locations was ALWAYS- 3 hours- 3,5 hours- 4 hoursIt was never under 3 hours and never more than 4 hours.

Some helpful tips

And I can only recommend to make a new chat channel for that and advertise that channel.There are lots of people out there doing the same and together it is so much easier.Use it to collect the spawn times and once you have the times from all locations it is easy to control itbecause of the 3-4h timer.

Most of the time on our server there are about 5-25 people in the channel.And between 10AM until 2-3AM we have mostly complete coverage of all spawn points.And we used a simple macro to keep track of the last known spawn times:(its in german, but you should know what i mean)/6 - Letzte Sichtungen: -/6 Balkon 19:54/6 Zita oben 19:58/6 Festung 20:29/6 Zita unten 20:38/6 Kristall 9:03/6 Gasthaus unten 10:00/6 Gasthaus oben 10:14/6 Besucher 10:49/6 - Respawnzeiten 3h, 3,5h oder 4h -

So everybody knows when to expect the next spawn for a specific location.

After maintenance day or server restart after crash, ALL books spawn.Happend today, world server was down for 5min, after restart all books were there.

Comentario de Krateros

Completed today thanx to the help of you all

Id like to point out that if you feed this minipet a Pet Biscuit from the TCG he will be bigger than a male orc, and bigger than a warlock' voidwalker

Also very important Northrend crashed on our server (Area 52) yesterday at around 11am, i hearth back to dalaran as soon as i saw my first guildie come back online and ALL THE BOOKS WERE THERE!

Comentario de BuRYGnome

With the clock in my hand it was exacly 4h. for next book to spawn.

Comentario de Blaast

I check a few of these spots everytime im in Dalaran and Ive NEVER seen any readable books. Now Im not obsessing over it or anything. Im not camping spots for hours on end just to get this acheivement, but I do "drive bys" on all the spots when Im there, but so far to no avail. Just thought Id throw that out there for us folks who only get to play a few hours a week. This ones either gonna take some luck, or some perserverence.

Comentario de sphinxer

I noticed something strange earlier this evening. I got my Kirin Tor Familiar today, and was standing around outside the Violet Citadel showing off (as you are required to do when you get something awesome). Suddenly my pet turned 180 degrees (I was standing still at the time), facing The Threads of Fate, raised his right hand in front of him and did the arcane explosion animation a few times. I thought this weird, so I ran upstairs and sure enough, the Enchantment book had spawned on the balcony.Now of course this could just be a coincidence, but it does seem rather odd. I'm wondering if the pet is either able to detect nearby book spawns, make them spawn, or change trash books into books for the achievement.

Comentario de Tutonious

I just found my last book today and I must say, this pet is probably the coolest looking pet that I have so far. Me being an avid pet collector (I have 55 pets so far) I am intrigued by them all. This one will definately be accompanying me in Naxxramas later today. :D

Comentario de Ideonl33t

ok so...this morning at 08:07 i went to see if conjuration was spawned...and a flavour book was in it's place (Journal of Archmage Antonidas)at 08:08 it dispawned and for 3 houres i've waited there and no respawn (ive read that the timer is 3 houres-3 and a bit from Ceruleagos's post...)it spawned at 11:23...but it was still a flavour book, "kirin tor monthly (march issue)" and it dispawned at 11:26...

this confirms that the respawn timer is about 3 houres and 15 minutes

so i'll check back tonight at about 21:20 when i get back from work :D

Comentario de zenocide

i got 7 out of 8. only missing the threads of fate one. got 9 dummy books in a row.

anyway the locations are all right. about the timer i experienced various combinations. and got most of em from 3 to 4 hours later the previous one despawned. my hint is to come back 3 hour after a book despawn and camp location for about an hour.

Comentario de Merah

All what I can confirm like a few others after 3 days searching all of them and finding all 8

So those claiming the minimum or max is 3h20 or spawns times are specific to each books are wrong, I have seen 3h and 4h exactly 3x times, all other spawns were random times between 3h and 4h. There is absolutely no books spawning before or after this range.

//edit: Please don't downrate, think, how do you know it's a 3 to 4 hours respawn without spending hours searching for them? Because of several comments like that confirming it!

Hope it helps, good luck.

Comentario de sietelle

this is the best description of where the conjuration book is ("next to rhonin"), provides a speedier way of going in and out of the rooms when patrolling dalaran for this achievement.

Comentario de Stump

I sat and waited for introduction many times, I saw about 6 placeholders total. It spawned fairly consistently every 3hours 33minutes, except for the last time where it spawned in 4hr 03minutes. If you see the placeholder spawned, write down the time and come back in 3hours, it worked fairly well for me.

Comentario de Tuketi

Just a note about the book that spawns on the balcony of Threads of Fate -- you can see the spawn point if you run up the small ramp outside the door downstairs. Move your camera beside the balcony and the small box up top will appear, showing you either nothing or a book if it's spawned. With this, you don't need to go inside and upstairs every time, and can instead just run past. :)

Comentario de Delfine

If you find a book you need and intend to announce it to other people, be sure you read the book yourself, first. You never know if you've gotten there just in time or not, and you'll be kicking yourself if the book despawns while you're announcing its presence.

Comentario de Cruacraice

Just got the achievment today and i have to say the best part was noticing that it was archmage vargoths quarters and realizing that was the guy in netherstorm that was stuck in the tower. I promptly teleported out ran to the bank and grabbed my staff that i saved from the quest line and summoned his image in the tower; i was hoping for some sort of aknowledgement or silly easter egg but sadly nothing happened :(. Also, the pet is preety awsome it put me at 61 pets today.

Comentario de Ametrine

Does one HAVE to be 70/80 to get his? Or could I, say, get someone to port my lowbie Mage to Dalaran and get the acheivement/minipet?

Comentario de Skyfang

I wonder if some books are harder to get than others?

So far I've seen 6 real books and 14 fake books. This is an overall 30% success rate.However, some books have been real easy for me to get, while others have been a major pain.

Will some of you post which books gave you the hardest time? I'm just wondering if it's random.

My personal experience:Introduction (portal room): DIFFICULT. I've seen 6 fakes and still not the actual Intro book.Abjuration (visitor's center): DIFFICULT. I've seen 4 fakes and still not the actual book.Enchantment (threads of fate): MEDIUM. (2 fakes, 1 actual.)The rest (citadel, lounge, hold): EASY. (Got these on first or second try.)

Normally I'd chalk this up to randomness, but I've heard horror stories about how the Introduction book is very difficult to get. So, I'm curious...

What was your experience? Post!

Comentario de NorfolkDumpling

OK, I see there is some confusion about spawn times, so me & a friend did a little expieriment.

Say for example, you find a book (I won't bore you with where they are, 'cos thats already quite clear now) and the time is 13:39. Unfortunatlym it's not the book you want, but you read it anyway. The respawn timer is now reset. Anyone who wants to read that book has 3 minutes to do so, or POOF, it's gone.

Now, as you clicked the book at 13:39, you'll have to wait AT LEAST 3 hours, before another book will appear.

I see people saying "It's random between the 3rd & 4th hour", it's not, however, there is a trick so you don't have to wait around.

You clicked the book at 13:39, so you need to be back in that spawn location three hours later (16:39) Still no book? Then come back 30 mins later. Still no book? Then it'll be there 30 mins later.

To sum things up, it'll be there at 3 hours, 3.5 hours, OR 4 hours AFTER you have clicked the previous book.

It's always handy to write down the time you clicked the last book, and now blizz has added an alarm clock, it's very easy to remind yourself.

I find it's always helpful to annouce a find in the trade channel, people tend to go on a bit of a hunt for the next hour, and usually annouce similar finds. Remember you have 3 minutes!

Good luck!

Comentario de flairy

It appears as though at least one of them may be on a set schedule of books. I will continue to keep an eye on this and update as necessary.

For the last three days, I have been camping the Threads of Fate book, as it's my last book. I haven't been able to be around for evening or morning books, but I have been around for the afternoon spawns, and they always coincide with each other.

Comentario de OccasusTuralyon

It seems that so far for me, the books always spawn the 'fake versions' more frequently.

Side note: There is an Common/Orcish dictionary in Heros Welcome, however this never changes ;(

Comentario de CoJo

While waiting for the Abjuration book, I recorded the exact time between 2 "fake" books spawning.

The amount of time from me reading the first book to the next's spawn was 3 hours and 10 minutes on the dot. For the sake of putting it to the test... I'll sit here again for the next spawn. (It's the last book I need so with the help of some movies I don't mind sitting here and waiting it out again.)

Comentario de Lightshadow86

One of the more time consuming and hard achivements in WoW. How am I suposed to do this with 10 others doing the exact same thing? Not very fun on high populated server.

Comentario de Jefkee

I found 7 books just with luck and now im waiting for the final book to spawn. Now hoping i can still get it before maintenance so i can maybe work on some other achievements.

Comentario de DELflepser

It has a ~fixed time per day. A friend of mine camped the Violet Citadel top floor one and came to the conclusion that, with a difference of 5 minutes, the books spawned around the same time at different days. He had mostly fakes for that one, hence his discovery.

I don't know if this is valid for other books.

Comentario de Paybays

After I saw a guildie completing the quest I decided to get the same achievement today. I started with downloading the map from this topic and decided to start at the book at VH since there would be loads of people there. I mounted my kodo and sat right on top of it. After 30 min I got quite boring of it and I decided to ride around looking for the others. At 20.59 I found a book at the crystal, but it wasn't the book that I needed. I wrote it down and skipped that place because I now had the respawn timer. I came upon the book close to the portal at 21.10 and skipped that place aswell.

When I jumped down at 21.13 I saw the book close to Rhonis. Which was also a book that wasn't on the list. I decided to write this down aswell and planned my camping spot from 0.10 - 0.15 or 1.10 - 1.15

I decided to go to the book at VH and also there was a copy that I didn't needed. It was at 21.16 and I wrote it down on my list. I now had a decent 3 books I could check out. So 3 more books I didn't had to worry about.

Which left me 2 books. The one at the balcony and the one upstairs in the Inn. I decided to switch between both of them every 2 min. Around 21.28 I talked with a horde via my horde alt and he said respawn is every 2-3 hours. I decided to look around 22.55 and 23.55 if the book has respawned. If that was a yes I would quickly go to the others and grab them.

At 21.32 I saw a book above the Inn, which ment that that would respawn in 2-4 hours I decided to go to the last spot I didn't had data of, the spot on the balcony where I met the horde. When I came there around 21.36 the book was there.

Which means, if the respawn timers were 2-4 hours I could get the following books in a row:

*.00 Dalaran crystal book

*.10 Portal book ( Kirin Tor )

*.13 Book at Rhonis

*.16 Violet Hold book

*.32 Book above the Inn

I'll update my post later to see if it's correct and what the correct respawn timer is.

Comentario de binkenstein

Best way to do this achievement: Organisation.I created a chat channel on Dragonblight (Alliance) called bookhunters

We tracked respawn times for all 8 spawns over 3-4 days. We picked up 3-4 books that people were missing, and had about 12+ through the channel during this time.

Also: yelling out locations when they spawn is a good idea too.

Comentario de CoJo

Upon completing you receive a mail that says:

Congratulations on completing your studies on The Schools of Arcane Magic. In recogonition of your dedication, I'm enclosing this special volume completing the series.

I believe you'll find this tome particularly entertaining, but I'll leave that for your discovery.

Sincerely,

Rhonin

Comentario de Aerxas

I can confirm that if Dalaran or world server goes down they will ALL respawn. However it might be fake books that spawns.

Comentario de Paybays

Just a slight update, 1 more book to go for me. I had 2 fake respawns on that spot close to the portal and hopefully the 3rd one is the right book. Sadly I have to wait from 1:17 - 2:17 to get a chance for the book. Glad it's christmas.

Comentario de ninkosen

They should decrease the timer because I don't see the point for waiting 3hours in front of a bookshelf, multiplied by 10...this is plain stupid... is it a game or not for the #$%^ sake ? whats fun in sitting here doing nothing in front of that bookshelf without even be sure that it will spawn...just to get 1/8th of the whole thing IF you get lucky that the real book spawn...you should be able to check here and then and find them up, and I checked like 20 times on all spot, I never saw a single one...Do I have to count the people that already read this or that book, that will take a pleasure to make it despawn just to have fun while waiting for their remaining books to spawn...meaning that not only you have to face people waiting for the book to spawn because they need it, but also some that don't even need it...

But I understand people that spent time to get the achievement, so they just can't/won't/shouldn't decrease it, but it has been very poorly designed IMO....thats like the rare spawn rate...

Oh well I understand that on a low populated server it's a cake to complete that kind of achievement, but not on mine when there is some time huge queues sunday night...this game really lack some dynamic factor...it's so easy to implement, but hey I guess Blizzard devs are not that skilled afterall... I am a dev myself I know what I'm talking about...

Because in the end, who get the achievement done? thoses who can afford to play at night or early in the morning...if the game was dynamic, the difficulty would remain the same at every hour (wouldn't it be fair ?), since it would depend only on the number of people logged on the server/zone or whatever factor you need it to be dynamic.By the way I play mostly at night, I'm just talking by experience, that a lot of stuff get easier, like Frostbitten and stuff, and it's unfair, that's all, I'm not chocked to admit it.

Comentario de Sh0dan

Just as an addendum to that excellent quoted info, I found the Conjuration book at the location dubbed VC1 and a "fake" one at LL1 right after a server restart, which contradicts

All book spawns seem to be on a 3 hour respawn timer, and all but LL1, LL4, and VC1 respawn on server crash/restart.

Comentario de Mithadriel

Tip! If you're really into getting this achievement I would recommend creating a channel called /librarians and getting anyone you see who is looking to get the books to join. If someone sees a book, they call it out in the channel, so even if you're not in Dalaran you can hearth and get the book for this rather crazy achievement!

We started it on Shadowsong Europe less than a few hours ago and the channel already has loads of people in it.

Use macros to advertise it in /General but remember not to spam :)

Good hunting!

Comentario de nalani

I have been doing this achievement for 8 hours straight now, and i have 4 Arcane Magic books read.

SPAWN TIME: Each book spawns every 3 - 4 hours (sometimes few minutes more). They do not affect each others spawn time.

LOCATION: Locations shown on wowhead are compleatly correct. Each book has its own spawn location, though a "fake" one might spawn instead of the Arcane Magic ones.

So here's how i did this:

First off, there we're 4 people in my group looking for the books, so we each picked a location to camp. When we started finding books, Arcane Magic or "fake" ones, i wrote down their spawn times and the times they should spawn again:

Those are the timers i have written down so far. An yeah.. at 3:30 three "fake" books spawned at the same time :P

Hope this helped ! Good luck with your bookhunting !

EDIT : When clicked, the books only stay for 2-3 minutes.

EDIT 2 : Ignore people saying books will despawn even if they haven't been read, I have been watching over a "fake" book for 20 minutes now, without clicking it, and it has not despawned.

Comentario de nalani

I have been doing this achievement for 8 hours straight now, and i have 4 Arcane Magic books read.

SPAWN TIME: Each book spawns every 3 - 4 hours (sometimes few minutes more). They do not affect each others spawn time.

LOCATION: Locations shown on wowhead are correct. Each book has its own spawn location, though a "fake" one might spawn instead of the Arcane Magic ones.

So here's how i did this:

First off, there were 4 people in my group looking for the books, so we each picked a location to camp. When we started finding books, Arcane Magic or "fake" ones, i wrote down their spawn times and the times they should spawn again:

Those are the timers i have written down so far. And yeah.. at 3:30 three "fake" books spawned at the same time :P They seem to spawn more often than the Arcane Magic ones.

Hope this helped ! Happy bookhunting !

- Moonkipz, achievement and companion pet addict of Lightning's Blade

EDIT : When clicked, the books only stay for 2-3 minutes.

EDIT 2 : Ignore people saying books will despawn even if they haven't been read, I have been watching over a "fake" book for 20 minutes now, without clicking it, and it has not despawned.

Comentario de Kayonna

After two weeks of hunting these books and getting all the others fairly easily the Introduction book in the portal room proved to be the hardest but after camping for two days, and spawning six fakes in a row, I got it. Average spawn time? 4 hours and 8 minutes

Comentario de mushu999

To save a little time when grinding these you can stand at the top of the stairs of Violet Citadel and face the Threads of Fate and run your mouse across the top of the balcony fence where the boxes are to see if your cursor changes to a wheel. I found book titled "STAY OUT!" that way, not part of achievement however.

Comentario de mushu999

To save a little time when grinding these you can stand at the top of the stairs of Violet Citadel and face the Threads of Fate and run your mouse across the top of the balcony fence where the boxes are to see if your cursor changes to a wheel. I found book titled "STAY OUT!" that way, not part of achievement however.

Comentario de erict

After a rolling restart books spawned in all locations so rolling restarts act just like normal server restarts in that matter.However there seems to be a pretty huge chance that one of the fake books will spawn instead of the real ones required for achievement. For example from 8 spawn points only 1 was the real deal (Abjuration in Visitor's Center in this case).

So in this case spawn rate for real books was 12.5% if anybody is trying to figure out more accurate numbers for this achievement.

Update: After a server crash the books reset again and again only 1 of 8 was the real deal. So so afr 2 out of 16 and number of achievement book spawns still remains 12.5%.

Comentario de Lizabeth

Today was server reset day, and i have been up for 24hours trying to get this achievement done. I have found out the following (possibly useless)information:*8 books spawn once the server comes back online for me today (Shadowsong EU) this was 7trash and 1 real book at 5am GMT.*Trash books spawn at 3 hour intervals from from the time they are read. ie 5am, 8am, 11am, 2pm, 5pm, 8pm, 11pm, 2am etc.*If trash books arent read they will not despawn and a new one wont spawn untill 3 hours after it has been read.*The Necromancy Book in The Ledgerdemain Lounge (46,39) seems to be the rarest of all the books to spawn, as this book has not spawned in 4days (to the point of this post).*1-3 real books will spawn the rest will be trash books.*Some of the Schools of Arcane Magic books spawned in between the 3 hour respawn time suggesting that all trash books have a 3 hour respawn and different Schools of Arcane Magic have different spawn times. which would then naff up the 3Hour interval period....hope that helps in some way...

Comentario de ScarletElegance

Comentario de Blazyrkh

This reminds me a bit of the "good old" NDB/Tuber grind in Felwood.... Anyone out there smart enough to make a "Felwood Timer" like MoD? :)

Comentario de oogumboogum

So far I have been camping the Illusion book on Eitrigg for about 82 hours without missing 1 spawn, and of course all have been fake. I would have to say this is the rarest of them all but im sure they all have there random spawns, In about 5 min the next book will spawn and I'm praying it's Illusion but ya never know. Sad times for Eitrigg atm =(

Comentario de meschen

I spent the best part of 27 hours monitering the spawns in one location (lower Legerdemain) using the assumption that the book spawned within the 3 to 4 hour window. During that time, the location spawned 9 times. I slept through one of these spawns, and missed a second one becuase I was in a guild instance run I could not leave (of course this was the one time the real book spawned).

In every case, the books did spawn in that window, including, as the poster above pointed out, one instance where the spawn actually occured a few minutes after the four hour mark.

I did observe that the book was more likely to spawn near the four hour mark than at any other time. This occured four times out of eight where I recorded spawn times.

Good luck!

Comentario de Licheye

The timespawns, are you writing in AM-PM or the 24:00Hour way?

Comentario de Dhuum

I can also confirm the 3-4 hour theory.

I have encountered dozens of books (many fakes) over the past few days of looking. After writing down the times, a new book has ALWAYS re-spawned within 3-4 hours.

I believe it is also safe to say: if you find a book, and it's a fake, write down the time and return within about 3 hours and wait for it again. I have done this every time, and ALWAYS catch the next book within the 3-4 hour re-spawn time.

Good luck

Comentario de TwentiethCHeffa

I finally got the achievement today after camping the last book (Abjuration) for about 3 days. The 3-4 hour spawn time seems accurate.

The pet is awesome and totally worthwhile so persevere!

Comentario de DeathGoddess

The Schools of Arcane Magic - Illusion (the one that spawns at Violet Hold) seems to have a 3 and a half hour timer. A faux book spawned at 6:34am and then again at 10:10. At 1:45(ish) the real book spawned. Given the three minute timer from the time it's read, to it's despawn, 3 1/2 hours seems to be the correct timer for this one spawn point.

Comentario de Blazyrkh

Warlock Specific Tip:

Eye of Kil'Rog combined with Glyph of Kil'Rog is nice for monitoring this Achievement since you can then fly in Dalaran entering through balcony's and fly over walls. Furthermore it also saves time by not having to dismount, and since the countdown on these books are 3 min's theres plenty of time to get there.

Comentario de Bisa

Comentario de Oresika

I just noticed that these books are, in fact, in alphabetical order after "Introduction."

Comentario de 2bad4you

Reply to Licheye:

I doesn't really matter. Spawn times are random, he's just simply giving a 1hour window in which the next book could possibly spawn. You have to keep in mind that he did this in one sitting, not over a few days.

I have been doing this achievement for 8 hours straight now

Comentario de slow123

for Priests:

You can make custom Mind Vision macro's to chain your way around Dalaran and check for books from one location.

Example 1: To chain from (2nd floor of The Ledgerdemain Lounge) to (2nd floor of The Violet Citadel)

/tar Enchanter Nalthanis/cast Mind Vision(Rank 2)

/tar Archmage Aethas Sunreaver/cast Mind Vision(Rank 2)

/tar Zidormi/cast Mind Vision(Rank 2)

Example 2: To chain from (2nd floor of The Ledgerdemain Lounge) to (The Violet Gate)

/tar Enchanter Jessa Weaver/cast Mind Vision(Rank 2)

Comentario de delrodo

Books tend to spawn towards the end of their 4hr window

Comentario de Steensborg

I am only needing The Schools of Arcane Magic - Enchantment, 17 times have i looted a fake book on the Threads of Fate balcony, and then a late night i saw the book, but it despawned 0,1 sec before i clicked it, I am starting to think that book hates me :/ Also the books spawn at a 4hr window for me all the time, never been 3hr, just to note it.

Comentario de BobCharabini

There is a very good guide on the locations of these books at warcraftpets.com.Hope this helps.

Comentario de svstoned

You don't necessaryly have to go trough all of the pages of a book to get credit, simply clicking a it is sufficient enough

The reward will be a blue book wich you can find inside your mailbox roughly a couple of seconds after achieving the achievement.You can use this book to teleport to an off-limits section of Dalaran, once there use the book again to teleport back to the city streets.

Comentario de Aunion

Been trying to get them myself and also recently had a server reset; found 6 books spawned, but none of them was a School of Arcane Magic book... wonder if blizz has some sort of code put it to stop them from spawning at server resets?

Comentario de ThyFlame

"EDIT 2 : Ignore people saying books will despawn even if they haven't been read, I have been watching over a "fake" book for 20 minutes now, without clicking it, and it has not despawned."

Fake books have no bearing on whether or not real books despawn if unread.

Comentario de xaph

As funny as the 'fake books' are, after the fourth respawn of 'the fluffy bunny' i was just about ready to shove a book up whoever designed this achievements ass.

Comentario de kemitche

On my server, most of the Alliance who really want to get this done have joined the "HigherLearning' channel. We let the others in the channel know when a book spawns, and whether it was real or a fake. Then we can predict the next spawn time down to a 1 hour window (books always respawn between 3 and 4 hours after they were last clicked).

Most of the players in the channel keep a macro updated with the next known spawn times. Then, when a book could potentially spawn (when it's OTC, or "on the clock"), we make sure at least one person from the channel is staring at the spawn point for the next hour.

Comentario de Covette

I can't find the poster who recommended this, but this is what I did, we were able to get a handful of people this acheivement in one day!

I created a macro that encouraged people who were looking for the books to join a channel called "BookClub." Once in the channel, we coordinated camp spots and spawn times. I kept track of the times so we knew which was coming up next.

I can confirm a 3-4 hr spawn time, the fakes and reals are on the same spawn timer. The list below shows most of the times we got, real book spawns are bolded...

Edit: Sorry for the semi-double post, I replied to a post after it had looked like this one didn't get posted.

Comentario de Covette

I suggest starting a book club, such as: /join bookclubWhen you see other toons obviously looking for books, invite them to join as well.When you find a book (real or fake), announce it, read it, and write down the server time.Expect the next spawn to be between 3 and 4 hours afterwards.

I did exactly this and we were able to get a handful of people their acheivement in one day. I also created a macro to advertise in chat. I think you'll have the best luck doing this on a Saturday.

Comentario de voodotrollmama

Comentario de karnokoto

So all the books, for sure, have exactly the same spawn location every time? I was under the impression, after getting all but one book, that they all spawned in different locations randomly. Are we absolutely sure of the set spawn points?

Edit: Confirmed, my Divination book spawned in the Violet Citadel 2nd floor, right where its supposed to be.On my server (Rexxar US), spawn time was at 1:30pm server time.

Comentario de Lightweight

Dont know if its a coincidence, but the Illusion- and Abjuration-books spawned at the same time on my server, both were fake. 01.03.It also seems like the Abjuration and Illusionbook turn out to be fake ALOT more often than the others.

Comentario de Excrucio

Comentario de Jonnerzz

Shaman Tip : Drop a Sentry totem at any location where a book can spawnRun to a place where a Book can spawn, wait for one to spawnChain cast Far Sight to other locations around dalaran.

Comentario de carldudut

does this achievement reward tittle too? thanks

Comentario de ubermonkey

This is a Priest only Mind Vision chain I made using an above poster's idea.Start by standing on the balcony where the Enchantment book spawns and proceed with the following order and macros. You can just copy + paste the first line and press Mind Vision if you don't want to make 7 macros. Also, you can always use an alternate action bar if you want to keep them hidden.

Comentario de StaxRex

On Rexxar we are currently running in channel Books and using this macro to announce and track spawn times. We're doing this with the 3hr +1 window of opportunity assumption and so far it's doing well for us. 2 or 3 people completed while I've been working on mine. I'm down to 1 book. Poping the macro in the room seems to help keep people interested and well gives a little hope...

We've also used a few macros to annouce globally when spawns happen... and sometimes who has what assignments so others know what isn't being watched...

and I recommend reordering the list by time and if you're the pack leader try to keep your spotters somewhat entertained! :) also the best time to start is obviously after a restart, even though blizz seems to be spawning only fakes after a reset its the best time to start timers and begin the process.

Comentario de Grobyc

After receiving the book to teleport up to the room, DO NOT delete the book. Although you can get it back from Rhonin, without the book, you cannot teleport back downstairs.

Comentario de magamiako

Something that people aren't clear about. Do the fake books reset the timer on the real books? Or do they have a different timer/spawn randomly during that time period?

Comentario de rikapi

Rest assured, the "books" channel exists both factions on Rexxar (the Horde side channel was created shortly after StaxRex's posted about the ally channel).It's been working well, as I saw a couple people get the achievement last night.

Comentario de bretm

blizz seems to be spawning only fakes after a reset

Real books can spawn after a reset. A recent reset netted 2 out of 8 real books.

Comentario de bretm

I've created a Photosynth of the secret chamber. It can be viewed here. Or you can go to http://photosynth.net and search for Dalaran.

Comentario de Faeryon

Here is what I made to hunt these books.

First, be sure to have enough time for this: a whole day is best, an afternoon is okay.It is possible to run from book to book in a little less than 3 minutes, so you shouldn't miss any of them. Now... start running.

Once you see a book, read it and remember the time you read it (note it somewhere - a spreadsheet is best). If you add 3 hours, you have the "not before" time. Add 4 hours, you have the "not after" time. So, a 1 hour long window for that book.

While not in that window for that book, you can skip it in your run from book to book, this may shorten you trip. I managed to have one hour long time windows when doing that, and I got help from other players to cover some places too.

Our experience confirm the "between 3 and 4 hours after a book has been read", but it seems it's more after it fades away rather than after being read, so if you're first to read it, add 3 hours and 3 minutes for "not before", and 4 hours and 3 minutes for "not after".

Comentario de Joker2522

here is a Map of the locations that the books have been found by my friends and guild members i hope its usefull to everyone.

Comentario de mirmir

I think blizz just may hate me. I've been camping the necromany book for about six days now. I'll log on and wait for it and each time its a fake. Is it just my bad luck?

Comentario de dlandeiro

I assume that this achievement is only for casters (i.e. mages, warlock, priests). Is this correct to assume? I'm a warrior and I've been looking for these just for the achievement and I don't see them, EVER. Please advise.

Comentario de dlandeiro

I assume that the books can only be seen or obtained by casters (i.e. mage, warlock, priest). Is this true? I am trying to complete this achievement with a warrior is that possible? Please advise.

Comentario de Calabra

I assume that this achievement can only be obtained by casters (i.e. mage, warlock, priest). Is this true or can my warrior get it too? Please advise.

Comentario de stilts66

From the past two nights, I have now seen two books that fell out of the 3-4 hour rule. Both times it was the Enchantment book at Threads of Fate. The other night itspawned about 10 minutes after the 4 hours was up. and today it spawned at the 4 h 36 minute mark. Both times I wrote down the previuos spawn time and know 100% they were correct.

Comentario de stormeh

Locations aside, I've been a little confused with the whole time thing, so after completing the achievement, this is what I gathered.

The spawn is totally RNG in terms of real book vs. fake book. This was evident on my last book (Illusion, at the daily dungeon quest giver) as I started camping for it. It spawned at 20:30, 23:50, 03:30, 06:50, 10:25, 14:30, 18:15 and the real book only spawned at 18:15. (Yes, I checked the one at 03:30 in the morning, I even set my alarm clock to wake me up at that time =P). While most of them seemed to have spawned at around the ~30 mins mark into the 1 hour range, it is entirely possible for a book to spawn at 3 hours and 1 minute, so I suggest if you're camping for the book, get there a few minutes earlier, and prepare for an hour long wait at the worst.

The time as noted is also across the board, anywhere from 3 to 4 hours from the last known spawn time. What I did was log in 3 hours after I've seen a spawn, and basically keep WoW on desktop in a corner, while doing some other stuff and then once a book spawn, hover over it to check.

I finished this in around 2 days of camping + a lot of running around Dalaran, but what made it easier was Barthilas Horde using /y every time a book spawned. I may not be able to read Orcish, but if some horde is yelling in Dalaran for a few times in a second, I can guess what it's about :)

Comentario de snoker

ok, this was just weard.... i was looking at the book at violet hold, i readed it and nothing happend.. how do u learn those books really? cause i dont understand a thing now.....

ty for helping me!

Snoker

Comentario de mizz

For shamans, a little help can be Sentry Totem.. just place it to a spawn location and you'll be able to check twice spots at once :) Not much but better than nothing!

Comentario de krilz

For those interested in what the different schools mean here's a short description (taken from PlanetBaldursGate):

Alteration (Transmutation) spells cause a change in the properties of some already existing thing, creature, or condition. This is accomplished by magical energy channeled through the wizard.

Abjuration spells are a group of specialized protective spells. Each is used to prevent or banish some magical or nonmagical effect or creature. They are often used to provide safety in times of great danger or when attempting some other particularly dangerous spell.

Conjuration/Summoning spells bring something to the caster from elsewhere. Conjuration normally produces matter or items from some other place. Summoning enables the caster to compel living creatures and powers to appear in his presence or to channel extraplanar energies through himself.

Divination spells enable the wizard to learn secrets long forgotten, to predict the future, and to uncover things hidden or cloaked by spells.

Enchantment/Charm spells cause a change in the quality of an item or the attitude of a person or creature. Enchantments can bestow magical properties on ordinary items, while charms can unduly influence the behavior of beings.

Illusions/Phantasms deal with spells to deceive the senses or minds of others. Spells that cause people to see things that are not there, hear noises not made, or remember things that never happened are all illusions.

Necromancy is one of the most restrictive of all spell schools. It deals with dead things or the restoration of life, limbs, or vitality to living creatures. Although a small school, its spells tend to be powerful. Given the risks of the adventuring world, necromantic spells are considered quite useful.

The last one missing (because of Introduction):

Invocation/Evocation spells channel magical energy to create specific effects and materials. Invocation normally relies on the intervention of some higher agency (to whom the spell is addressed), while evocation enables the caster to directly shape the energy.

Comentario de DELJaneLame

Does anyone have any information about the rate of "fake"/placeholder books? I've flipped 21 books this weekend and ALL of them were placeholders. Not real. Not counted for the achievement. A GM told me there's no known bug but 21 fakes in a row is definitely abnormal. Well, any educated guesses?

Comentario de Shroomith

Does this require a certain level? I'm trying it on my 46 hunter. =)

Comentario de DELJaneLame

Does anyone have any information about the rate of "fake"/placeholder books?

Comentario de dfscott

Ok, I know it's mentioned in the other comments here, but I missed it -- I expected to see the reward book pop into my inventory upon completion of the achievement. It actually gets mailed to you, so don't panic like I did -- just go check your mail. :)

Comentario de Areguzanda

I have camped the The Schools of Arcane Magic - Transmutation for 3 days now. only with some few hour brakes. and not one single time has the real book spawned >_<it's the last book I need and it's driving me nuts. All the other books were easy, but this thing is 100% fake book so far.

EDIT: Well I've camped for another day.... 6 more fake books.... this is rediculus... still 100% fake

EDIT2: Yes! Finaly the right book spawned! it only took 4 days and some hours >_> Well i got my achievement and my Kirin Tor pet so I'm happy :D

Comentario de Acidangell

Comentario de BrianG

Found Necromancy at second floor at inn at 9-18 am (Eruope)

Comentario de LastSigh

In our server (Bloodhoof EUR) we created a specific chanel, just typing : /join higherlearningEach player on this achievement can so inform the others about the spawn timers and when a book is up.There are 30-40 players around 8:00 PM server time each day.Everywhere in Azeroth, you just have to use your Hearthstone when someone is calling for a spawn.VERY usefull !

Comentario de wowman12

Does anyone know why it says Zone: Dragonblight? I can't tell if it means the realm or something else, if anyone else noticed.

Thanks!

Comentario de Hateo

I think there is a way to know when the books are going to appear, in the top of the tower of dalaran there is a mage Archmage John Nicholas <The Punisher> I think each time this mague speak appears one book on dalaran of the achievement higher learning I only suppose It because he said " umm interesting" and "too much books not much time"

Comentario de DrMrsTheMonarch

Using the information provided in the first few comments, on top of the links provided on this page, I simply marked all of these and any extra info (ex: ground floor, 2nd floor empty bookcase) on my mini-map. Then whenever you are in Dalaran, just go to these points when you remember.

If you just check the areas while you are already idling there, it doesn't seem like much of a chore. And as long as you aren't in a rush to get these books, you should get a few of them and possibly all within a week or two, maybe a month depending on how much you play. I already have four books after a week and don't feel like I've tried at all.

A good tip is to log out in a book location, once I logged on right next to the book I needed.

I don't know if this has been confirmed, I'll check the rest of the comments later, but I seemed to have the most luck right after the servers came back up after daily maintenance. I found 4 books in one run, though 3 out of them were the fake books. Can anyone else confirm this or was it just luck or people simply not reading and despawning the fake books?

EDIT: After reading through multiple posts, it seems that it is confirmed server restart respawns all books.

Comentario de DrMrsTheMonarch

Don't know why that was purged, it was a pretty good question.

Comentario de GNiko

I have a sneaking suspicion that the spawn timers are somehow tied to Wintergrasp battles: I have taken the habit of checking the spawn points after each battle, and have found at least one book after each one I've participated in.

I have no time to look into it, but if people are hungint the books, you might want to see if there's any correlation

MelodramaticAzuremyst server

Comentario de alharv2k7

Is there any confirmed spawn timer on the books? Whether the fake or real Schools ones. I am 3 books from this achievement and wondered if anyone knew the spawn timer.

Thanks in advance for any help :)

Comentario de Ashek

Upon completing the quest:

Welcome (class), to my humble retreat. I find this place very relaxing and I have always loved being at home in Dalaran. Sometimes though, it can be a lonely place... such a lonely place.

- I have a book that might interest you. Would you like to take a look?

Amazing! There are passages in here that I have never seen before. This must have taken quite a while for you to track down. If you ever find anymore books like this, I would like to be notified immediately.Please take one of my Kirin Tor Familiars with you just in case you stumble across anything.

- Thank you! I will be sure to notify you if I find anything else.

Comentario de Kaido

Does anyone know if the "fake" books spawn IN PLACE of the real ones or IN BETWEEN them?

Sorry if this has already been asked but I simply didn't have enough time to read through 121 comments while waiting for the spawns.

Comentario de valataari

It also helps if you create a channel for people to call out fake and real books and were they spawned.

for example on my server you would /join dalaranbooks and all the people in that channel are searching for the books and lets other people in the channel know when they have spawned and were.

Comentario de OhItsJoe

Each of the books needed for this achievement spawn at a specific location within Dalaran. These locations can be seen on the map above. Each book is on an individual timer (they don't all spawn at the same time). Each location will spawn a book every 3-4 hours, however there is only a chance that the book that spawns will be one of the books required. Once spawned a book will remain until roughly 2-3 minutes after someone reads it.

1: Transmutation: Spawns on the bottom floor of Ledgermain Lodge, on the empty bookshelf.2: Enchantment: Spawns on the 2nd story balcony of the store Threads of Fate, on the crate.3: Conjuration: Spawns in the Violet Citadel, on the bottom floor bookshelf.4: Divination: Spawns in Violet Citadel, upstairs on the left (near the Caverns of Time portal).5: Necromancy: Spawns on top floor of Ledgermain Lodge, on an empty bookshelf.6: Abjuration: Spawns in the Dalaran Visitor Center, downstairs near the bookshelf.7: Illusion: Spawns on a crate next to the normal dungeon daily quest giver by Violet Hold.8: Introduction: Spawns in the Teleportation Crystal room, on the floor.

Suggested method of completing:Every time you enter and before you exit Dalaran spend 3 minutes running around and checking your remaining spawn locations.

Make friends with a few others who are working on this achievement and announce to each other when you notice one of these books has spawned.

When you are down to just 1-3 books remaining, AFK your character next to a spawn location and go about some other work next to the computer or alt-tabbed checking regularly.

If you're dedicated to getting this achievement in a single day, note the times you've seen 'fake' books at the correct spawn locations and come back to the location and watch it carefully 3 hours later until the correct book spawns.

Upon completion of this achievement you are mailed a book The Schools of Arcane Magic - Mastery which upon use will portal you to an upstairs room in one of the towers in Dalaran. You must talk to the NPC Archmage Vargoth to recieve your pet.

Comentario de Andyboy01

AIght, so i have 7 out of 8 books, missing the one on the ground floor in the ledgermain thing. first 15 days i spent, keeping an eye on the wrong bookshelf.Last 3 days ive been camping it whenever i had the possibility, and after seeing a fake, returning 3 hours later.im ofcourse talking about "The Schools of Arcane Magic - Transmutation"Last 11 book spawns have all been fake.. every time i see a book spawn, and then realise its a fake.. im about to cry :( this is getting on my nerves.. im considdering setting my clock for when im going to sleep, but CBA to ruin my day because of another fake book

-Andyboy

Yay, 14th book was the real deal :D

Comentario de fossilx

I can confirm that they do spawn after the weekly reset/patch.

I have been attempting to finish this by checking after the weekly resets for the past 3 weeks. The first two weeks didn't have any of the real books (note: I only checked the four spawns I needed). I just logged in however (as soon as my server came online obviously) and found both the conjuration and illusion books up (along with 2 fake ones). I guess it is possible that they have a lower spawn rate when the servers first come up, but it would require a much larger sample size before any conclusions could really be made.

I'm not sure how helpful this will be given how rare they are, but I figured it was worth confirming for those that didn't want to stare at the floor or run in circles for hours. ;D

Comentario de Plethorian

Another reward I didn't expect was the secret room you get teleported to. It's very not laggy! Now I have a cool pet and somewhere to hang in Dalaran that won't make my computer blow up.

Edit: Should state how less laggy it is..In Dalaran at busy times, I get about 10 fps. While in the room you teleport to with the book, I get around 70 fps!

Comentario de Kasi833

I did observe that the book was more likely to spawn near the four hour mark than at any other time.

I observed the same thing, especially for the last book I needed (The Schools of Arcane Magic - Necromancy) for which I recorded the following times: 10h34 - 14h25 - ? - 22h15 - ? - 6h (Real!) on US server Whisperwind. (April 8, 2009)I would still recommend checking after 3hours and waiting an hour or so if you have the patience, just in case. Happy book stalking!

Comentario de dkOverclockedDs

Just download autoclicker.Set to to click right click every 5sec and leave it over night.Thats how i got mine Higher Learning

Comentario de GlumTheGnome

In Soviet Russia, book reads YOU!

Comentario de tavioturner

PLEASE READ THIS!

As far as I know, the books that spawn in the same locations as The School of Arcane Magic books, but have titles OTHER than "The Schools of Arcane Magic - " DO NOT count towards the achievement. I have read eight books in each location, but only received credit for one of the books.

I also spoke to a GM about this, and they said that there have been some problems with this achievement and that the books that have a title other than "The Schools of Arcane Magic- " do not count towards the achievement... (As if a random wait time of a few hours wasn't bad enough, the book that does finally spawn may not be the one you need!)

If anyone knows anything to the contrary, please post.

P.S.: The GM mentioned that an addon of mine might be causing problems...

Comentario de tuin

Do not download auto clicker since it's considered cheating and you could be banned for it.

Also i never had any problems reading the books, I just got this achievement yesterday, keep in mind that when u do see a book spawn it's best to head back after 3 hours. A book wil soon spawn then again

Another thing to help you with it is downloading Bejeweled so you will have something to do while waiting.

Good luck the pet is definitely worth the time it looks really nice

Comentario de wyldstyle

I've been trying to do this achievement for a few days now, just checking for the books every time I'm in Dalaran... today I found 6 fake books but no real ones =-(

Comentario de Jeaz

A very good time to this, if you have the opportunity to, is to check all spots after a server restart or maintenance. Whenever the server goes down, all timers seems to reset and books spawn at all places, fake or real.

Comentario de Bioheart

For the record, "Mr.Pinchy" is the biggest pet yet, he's just rare to get and he might spawn as "Furious Mr.Pinchy" and attack you instead of "Benevolent Mr.Pinchy" and fight for youMr.Pinchy is taller then anything other then a Tauren and Draenei

Comentario de arvidsky

Any lvl requirment? Found a special book: What To Do, but nothing happend. BtwÍ´m lvl 57

Thought I'd repost this for the people (like me) who'd like to have an idea when the books spawn, and not just where (since that info's been covered again and again). This is just a general idea, they may spawn a little sooner or a little later. the times in parentheses are when the book should respawn after they've been read at the unbracketed times.

I followed this guide, and it was very helpful. One book I was waiting for spawned about a half-hour after the posted time, however. Just be patient, and it'll show up.

Comentario de Strandvaskeren

Warning, geek alert!

I was hunting the last 3 books on my shammy. I popped Sentry Totem to monitor two spots at the same time. A priest saw me do that and got an idea. He ran to one spot, targeted a npc close by and ran back to another spot. With Mind Vision he could now do what I was doing with Sentry Totem.

I complimented him on the idea and he told me that it was my use of the totem that gave him the idea. I suggested that he got the names of npc's near the other spots and did a /target <name> followed by Mind Vision. Unfortunately that didn't work as many of them were out of range and couldn't be targeted unless he moved closer.

After a moment or two, we figured out to pick a chain of npc's starting with a npc at the fountain in the middle of town and targetting the next npc from there and so on. Half an hour later the priest had a number of macros to eyeball the 3 spots he still needed. When I logged of, he was working on setting up yet another macro to connect him to the npc at the fountain in the center of town no matter where in Dala he was standing..

So to the priests out there, it should be possible to set up a number of macros enabling you to check on all 8 books from anywhere in Dalaran by using /target, Mind Vision and the proper npc's..

It's so geeky that it's fun, and it made me wish i had a priest too..

Comentario de wif10101

On the Moonrunner server where I look for these books. The area where the Necromancy pops up is in Upper Ledgermain on the bookshelf. It's the room with the 4 beds. The really bad part is that this is the last book I have to get. And there have been 13 fake books spawn in this area. Not seen the real book come up yet. Anyone else had this problem?

Comentario de CrownofKhaz

Just had the Necromancy book pop in exactly 4hrs 8min from when the placeholder was clicked. Not when it disappeared, but when I first clicked the placeholder. Came back 3hrs later and camped. So it's more than 4hrs sometimes; though thankfully not much more in this case. Just finished the achievement; thanks everyone for your comments.

Comentario de Loltha

By accident, not really knowing too much about this achievement I found the book enchantment and the book conjuration. Reading this Wowhead forum I decided since I had today off and it was the server roll start for the week this would be a good time to devote to getting this done. Server fresh start happened around 8 am and I logged in quickly having left my toon in Legerdermain Lounge 2nd floor. It was lucky as this book spawned real and I got Necromancy. I had bookclub on but it was very little help with hardly anyone using it.

Logging back 3 hours ( 11 am running for 2 hours ) later I began my runs...Leg Lounge (downstairs) was a fake so I continued to run the circuit and picked up the Violet citadel book. That cut my circuit to 4 locations now. Possibly the books I already had were real spawns because all my other needed locals were fake books. I notated the times of the ones I found.

Logging in at the third hour again ( 3-4 pm) I got the violet hold book.

Logging on at 3 hours again (7-8) I picked up the visitor center book, which the 2 previous times had been fake books.

Last log in back around 10:30 as I had notated the previous times all I needed was the 1st fl Leg Lounge book, transmutation...the 3 previous books had been fakes so I expected the real book and got it and the achievement.

Best advice I can give is devote a day to it picking the day of the server rollover. Run your circuit, notate all fake book times. For me, bookclub was useless but certainly log into it just in case. Each time I was able to narrow my field of running down to exact locations and times which helped tremendously. The first circuits were rough tho and I ran between them continuously with no down time. When I was down to the last 2-3 books needed I had the fake books spawn time so I was able to quest while waiting for the next spawns; only logging in close to the 3 hr mark.

I suspect, with no proof that each 3 hour period spawns 3 real books, the rest fake. That means that each book spawns once every 12 hours. It also means that if your first 3 checks at a specific location were fakes you are definately getting the real book on the 4th time ( which is why U want to start after a server rolling start because that means all books spawns start anew from zero time). Start time of quest needing 5 books was 8 am finished the achievement at 11:30 pm.

Comentario de naughtykitty8

I closed the screen for the university addon and I cant open it. anyone know how to open the addon after it was closed?

Comentario de Tobutch

I've been reading a couple of forums and posts and it seems there are different opinions as of how the books spawn.

What I want to know is if all books at a specific location share spawntimer.For example, I am just missing the Introduction book. Let's say there are two non achievment books and the Introductionbook at The Violet Gate. If I read a non achievment book, do i have to wait 3-4 hours and then have a 33% chance that Introduction spawns or do each book have it's own timer?

At first I thought that there was a set number of spawns at any one time and reading a book makes another one spawn faster but that does not seem to be the case.

At one bookrun I found three books at various locations. After reading them and they despawned I found two books at different locations, but after I read those I didn't find any more for a very long time.

Currently I'm camped at The Violet Gate just waiting for the damn thing to spawn.

Comentario de Hetarow

if it hasn't been mentioned yet, after a server restart, books will spawn in all locations. Wether or not they're the real ones is random. but a helpful tip nonetheless

Comentario de jumb1

A couple of things that I wondered at the start that might help others:

The books have the usual "read" context icon, ie the magnifying glass, not a cog like normal usable items.

The books don't "sparkle" like quest items.

Comentario de bigox30

The only book i've seen here is Guardians of Tirisfal around 10 times might just be my bad luck tho

Comentario de hwan6972

i'm still one book off to get the whole set, it took me 2 months so far.guess i'll just have to constantly check the spwning place to collect the full set.

Comentario de andystei

I think that these books may respawn individually. It would make sense really. Point is, I found Introduction and Conjuration within a couple minutes of each other. Good luck to all of you working on this! =D

Comentario de Diwrnach

I've a theory that each books shares a spawn with another book, not related to the achievement, as in the case with the Abjuration book. While these books arent helpful with the achievement, they generally are very funny reads. My favorite so far is the Portals are NOT Garbage Bins, found on the top floor of the building where you can buy emblem cloth gear, on the balcony.

This theory is sort of correct (except for the bit about it not being helpful). These books spawn in pairs - every time a book spawns, another book will spawn in a separate location. The books may or may not be relevant for the achievement but if you find a book it's definitely worth quickly looking round the other spawn locations for another book but be quick.

Comentario de Forestwind

I'm using the mod TomTom to help me keep track of the book's locations. I turn off the setting that removes waypoints when you get near them (set "clear waypoint distance" to 0) and I check each position when I'm bored in Dalaran, deleting the waypoints as I find the books. To help any other TomTom users out, here are my waypoints...

You can copy and paste those (or put them in a few macros) to get the points up on your map. These waypoints may also work for Cartographer or can be modifier to work for Cartographer, though I haven't tried it out because I don't have it installed. If someone could post the waypoints for Cartographer, I would appreciate it.

Comentario de mekikya

Comentario de Duchiswrath

It helps a lot if you say in Trade/Yell something like:

"On <link>Higher Learning<link>? Join my group so we can share respawn times and hunt down the books. Reward: a mini-pet light blue voidwalker which is 2nd biggest in-game that occasionaly if left idol uses an arcane explosion a few times."

Then, if you get a group/raid of 5-8 people, you can be like me and finish 5 books in the coarse of about 6 hours.

Comentario de Deliaren

I have found a very useful guide for this achievement Here. They explain where to find the books, the cords and a picture of what it looks like when the book spawns. Also explains the way they spawn and the spawn criteria.

I have also found a useful mod Here that works with other people trying to find the book and gives you bar timers when someone has clicked on the book to keep track of spawn times.

Comentario de sicariusdracus

On Azgalor, they've made a channel called 'bookclub' and occasionally spam for people to join it to look for the books together. When one finds a book, the announce it in the channel and people can come and get the book as well. Nifty.

Comentario de Instead

Um, I'm having a little problem, for the past two days i have been searching for some of the books required for the achievement. I ran into two of them, read them and i looked at the log for the Higher Learning achievement yet... it did not count for some reason. Is there some sort of quest that i will need to complete in order for them to actually count or something?

Comentario de Sabrine

For italian users, you can find a detailed guide here: There's a nice map that can be understood by non-italians too, explaining the best tour to check all book-spawn places :)

Comentario de Tren

Sooo....... How did he get out?

Comentario de Bullchips

This can take a long time to complete. I have seen 3 fakes in a row at a couple of locations. I think the spawn rate is random. Some say once in a 12 hour period. I know something spawns in each spot every 3 to 4 hours. My best advice is to use an add on like "Dalaran University". At least you will have a timer running on it. If you log out or get disconnected it will reset the timer. Or is has for me. Best of luck.

Comentario de Thalia

Remember to get dalaran university addon, sometimes it helps make it easier, as well as joining your local bookclub channel.

Comentario de Tsillan

Today I found 3 books had spawned at the same time. 2 fake books and 1 real book (sadly, not the one I needed). Have they changed the timers on this since the latest patch? I've seen multiple books spawned at the same time in the various locations in Dalaran.

Comentario de Thalia

This achievement was a bit .. interesting to do, but you get a cute pet out of it once you are done. Here is a guide I wrote with visuals, hope it helps you guys:

Comentario de Aarchangel

I also posted pictures of a map of all the locations of the books as well as pictures of each specific location the books spawn so you know where to look. Good luck and happy hunting!

The Schools of Arcane Magic - Introduction Violet Gate : Right side of Archmage Celindra on the floor next to the bookshelf {Coords 56.7, 45.6}

The Schools of Arcane Magic – Abjuration Dalaran Visitor Center : Right side of room, on the floor next to the table {Coords 52.3, 54.8}

The Schools of Arcane Magic - Conjuration Lower Violet Citadel : Right side of room (to the right of Archmage Aethas Sunreaver), Lower left bookshelf {Coords 30.7, 46}

The Schools of Arcane Magic - Divination Upper Violet Citadel : Upstairs on the floor between the book shelves that are to the left of Zidormi and the Caverns of Time portal.{Coords 26.5, 52.3}

The Schools of Arcane Magic - Enchantment Upper balcony of Threads of Fate : Go inside and up the stairs on the right side as you walk in, continue up until you are on the balcony. Face the door way and it will be on a crate on the left side.{Coords 43.5, 46.7}

The Schools of Arcane Magic - Illusion Violet Hold : Go in and then left. It’s on a crate to the right of Archmage Timear *Regular dungeon daily quest giver* (to the right as you are looking at him){Coords 64.4, 52.4}

The Schools of Arcane Magic - Necromancy Upper Legerdemain Lounge : Go upstairs and to the right in the bedroom with four beds. It will be on the bookshelf against the wall on the second shelf from the top.{Coords 46.8, 39.1}

The Schools of Arcane Magic - Transmutation Lower Legerdemain Lounge : Bottom floor on the right bookshelf across from the bar (next to the stove) it will be on the second shelf from the top {Coords 46.8, 40}

I suggest you get an addon from Curse.com called Dalaran University. It’s simple to use and will help you keep track of when each book may spawn. Just keep in mind, books can spawn as a “real” or “fake” book in each specific location. A fake book that spawns counts (on timers) as a real book, so you will have to wait another 3-4 hours for a chance a real book will spawn.

Comentario de Neverman

You got to take a note that if an orc shout's something in orkish that should mean something like "The Book's Are Here" At least that's how i translated it...and i was right :D

Comentario de Chungking

Camping tips for these books

Make sure you know all the spawnpoints and the common timers on them, all seem to have 3-4h timers.

Camp 1 book until you have it. If you get a 'fake' book, do a quick ride/run around for the other ones you are missing. Tracking all books with timers might ofc work, but I did it one at a time, and it worked fine.

Don't just sit there eyeballing an empty spot for xx hours while you are waiting for the spawn, read a book while you are waiting, or watch a movie or two. 2 screens are ofc ideal, but you can always just cover 90% of your screen with a movie, and have the top corner open so you can see the book when it spawns. This is my prefered method for all rare spawn camping.

Once a 'fake' book spawns, set your timer(/sw, 60=1min, do the math :) ) for 2h50min or so and come back for camping. I doubt a real book will spawn right after a 'fake' one.

Read ALL books, 'fake' or real, one day there might be an achievement for the 'fake' books. Reading will also make the book despawn faster.

Broadcast in city channel or even trade what book has spawned and where, the second you see it, lasts 3mins only. I got 75% of my books this way, by kind night elfs yelling in channels.

If you are going to log out in Dalaran, log out at a spawnpoint. Book might be there when you log in. A mate of mine got this achieve' that way.

On server restart, get ready to do the 2min ride/run around Dalaran. If you are truely lucky, you snatch all books as they respawn/reset on server restart.

This achieve might take some time, but it has a nice reward, the mini-pet 'Kirin Tor Familiar' and The Schools of Arcane Magic - Mastery that allows you to teleport to the upper chamber in a tower in Dalaran.

This tower is lagfree and good for mass-crafting, like glyphs if your server is overloaded one day.

Happy hunting :)

Comentario de Chronios

I managed to find 7 out of 8 books on the specified locations, after a server reboot, in less than 3 minutes. Five of them were real and two of them fakes. I found the remaining three in a couple of days after periodic search.

Comentario de starbucks09

This achievement takes forever ... took me a good two months but that was because I wasn't always trying.

Comentario de Spac3Rat

It's weird, though. So many books in that room and not a single one readable.

I wish Blizz added A LOT of nice books for us to enjoy. Kinda like a real in-game book club.

Comentario de Kreldin

So I've been camping the book on the balcony of Threads of Fate, it's the last book I need. Yesterday, five times in a row it was the fake book. Five times! I didn't miss a single spawn. I went to bed and woke up about 8 hours later, so I missed maybe 2 spawns, and as soon as I log in the book is there... but of course it's the fake one. Just how random is this spawn? Why am I getting the fake book so much?

Comentario de Azutael

This achievement is extremely annoying, as its basicly jsut a waiting game. Or you can be lucky.I cant stand waiting for hours, so i just check every time I am in dalaran at the two last spots for the ones i am missing.But so far its always been the joke ones spawning.... I return 3hours after, and another joke one is spawned.

I get annoyed, and log off.... :)

Comentario de Zajihr

On a busy server it can be quite hard to get a chance to read those books. On my server i was once standing at a book location waiting for a spawn. i just waited 30 min and i have seen at least 5 people checking out if the book was there too.

What I did then is, every time when the server restarts (eu its wednesdays 3am) i would port myself to dala, and stand at a book location.

make sure you know where the books spawn. then when the server restarts run to all the book locations you know. I missed 3 books, and i got 2 books by doing this. i bet there spawn more just after a server restart.

Comentario de Meyham

At this point i only miss one book, which is the Abjuration book, in the Dalaran Visitor Center. Anyway, i been watching this spot carefully and i have learned that they spawn time is 3 to 4 hours, but it is balanced, so that i will spawn within the same hour. For instance i have seen one of the false books twice at 23:XX, once at 20:XX and five times ( :S ) at 17:XX. So if you want this book you can simply wait every third hour: 02:XX, 05:XX,08:XX,11:XX,14:XX,17:XX, 20:XX and 23:XX.

This however is only for the book "The Schools of Arcane magic - Abjuration". I belive that these books are linked in groups, so some books will spawn within the same hour, and some at a different time. "The Schools of Arcane magic - Introduction" might spawn at the previous hour being 19:XX, 22:XX etc.

However these are just my personal observations and may very well be wrong but i hoped that i helped out some people.

Comentario de Titansteelsword

Kinda makes sense... Introduction at the Visitors Center... Start at the beginning as they say.

Comentario de Unlocky

Edit: During Wrath of The Lichking this little trick was the shizzle since Dalaran was the idle-hub for both factions. Since the release of Cataclysm, Dalaran is practically desserted. The Schools of Arcane Magic - Mastery is still a fun vanity item, though.

Comentario de Trentorus

In a bit of research on this, over two days. It turns out that the respawn rate is as short as 36 minutes, having personally timed it. I have also seen spawn rates of about 1.5 and 2 hours. Very boring work, but these times seemed to be quite random.

I literally ran in circles for hours on end to time this. The time it took me to check all spawn points was under two minutes. In past postings, the books stayed active for three minutes AFTER opened for reading, So, I shouldn't have missed ANY.

Comentario de Maxiusthegnome

One thing is for certain...the rare books spawn FAR less then the fake ones. I've found well over 50 books and I'm still down 1. The Divination book has spawn 11 fakes for me since I started 4 days ago. FYI...the 3 minute despawn timer is accurate, I've checked it out twice on fake books, and so is the 2 books spawn at once theory. If you get to know the locations well, you and easily move to each in under 1.5 minutes....good luck! I'm almost there =)

Comentario de Smidy

The best time to get these books is immediately after your realm has come back up from maintenance etc.

Just did a run now my realm came back up and in every spot there was either a fake book or a real one. Much nicer than finding nothing :)Roughly four real books appearing also so it would be a good score for someone starting this achievement.

Comentario de BigChiefZ

Is this a lvl 80 Ach only? I am running a lvl 73 mage around and have found only joke books, even immediately after a server reset.

Comentario de ApocalypseTyrant

I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but I thought I'd add this in there. So far I've gotten this achievement twice and both times were on a difference server (Exodar and Underbog). In addition to the generic spawn time of 3 to 4 hours between clicks, I believe I've picked up a pattern.

Server restarts aside, it seems as if once a real book spawns, the next seven books that spawn in that spot will be fake. In other words, if you just missed the Violet Hold book (Illusion), then don't expect to see it again until the following day. Using this theory, I was able to actually predict when the last two books I needed would be real.

The catch? You still need to wait around to figure out the initial spawn times of the books and then check back in each time they spawn so you can click them and predict the next spawn. There is NO WAY to know when a real one spawned unless either you were there or someone else was. This is why I highly recommend either joining or forming your own bookclub channel.

I will say this, though. If you are absolutely determined to get this achievement in the shortest time possible, and CAN BE OBTAINED in roughly 24 hours so long as you are there to click a book (real or fake) as soon as it spawns so the timer can be reset.

Again, when a real book spawns, the next seven will be fake.

Comentario de thanatosion

Hey guy's

Properly you know more then me, and thats why i gonna ask you something...

I have bee waiting for like 3-4 day's for the Conjuration book... Is it normal that it takes this long for this book?

I really get annoyed by the amount wasted time.

Be so kind to reply on my question.

Comentario de Guanyin

I don't want to read through 160 comments, so I don't know if it's already said, but as a priest, it is possible to peak into the room you teleport to with the quest reward. Simple enter the Violet Citadel, go through the portal on your right and type /tar Archmage Vargoth and you target the NPC who gives you the Kirin Tor Familiar when you completed this achievement. Mind Vision and you see a small room with a few bookcases and Archmage Vargoth inside that room. Funny sidenote, this NPC is not listed here on Wowhead.

Comentario de Meghara

I have now spent a total of 1 day 17 hours camping the spot for the Necromancy book during the course of 3 days. I have seen upwards to 10 fake books, but never a real one. In fact, I've seen 5 fake books in a row (just over three hour respawn) today. This is pretty ridiculous. If it were not my last book, I would give up.

~Frustrated~Meghara from Cenarion Circle

Comentario de Jigs

I've been trying to get this achievement for the Critter mainly for the past couple days.

I've written down the time everytime I got a fake book and came back 3 hours later.

What I can confirm is the respawn time isn't exactly 3 hours, it's 3 hours and a half.Everytime a book spawned, it was always 3 1/2 hour within that last 30 minutes.

Looking for my last book as we speak but hope this comes in handy for you fellow critter freaks out there. :)

Comentario de faith1ntheknife

Here's a quick video I put together showing how the rewards for the Higher Learning achievement plays out!

Comentario de emwowhead

There is a new beta of Dalaran UniversityIt helps getting this, especially if some people on the server are doing the achievement.

Comentario de niko031

One tip for everyone that wants to do this achievement..the book will never despawn unless someone reads it, so i found out that the best time to find any of these books is to wake up a bit early and grab them in the morning while every one is sleeping.worked for me perfectly :D

Comentario de Nefariousa

The Schools of Arcane Magic - Divination found on the second floor of The Violet Citadel on the left side on the floor between the two book cases.

Comentario de mysticpixie

Do the books only spawn one at a time or is each book on its separate timer?

Comentario de Pwerhouse

Get the add on Higher Learning from cruse forge.com

Also, spawn points may spawn a different book that is not part of the achievement. If this happens which is more likely then not there will not be another book spawn at that location until next spawn point rotation.

Comentario de tarthur1

I haven't seen it posted, but it seems that you won't be able to read any of the books until you reach ~lvl65 (seems to be the "it" level of northrend, ie, cooking dailies become available, jc dailies, you can mine/herb in northrend, etc.). I don't have proof, just experience: I went to Dalaran when I was around level 40 or so, and went around the city trying to get this achievement. I would see a book on the the ground (in the introduction book's spot for example), but when I moused over it, the gear thing didn't pop up. However, when I tried again at lvl 66-67, I could THEN interact with the books. Someone may want to confirm this though, since I'm not positive of its accuracy.

Comentario de Pwerhouse

On our server there is a /join bookclub channel where players will post if a book is up it helps, I suggest making a thread on your server and teaming up.

Comentario de precise

I have confirmed that all books respawn after a restart. We had rolling restarts just now, after 5 restarts on 2 hours, I got the last 3 books I needed. Kinda lucky, considering the chances of duds. :>

Comentario de Parknet

I loved the routine of running around Dalaran when I logged in. Now that I have the Chef hat and Higher Learning goals complete, what am I to do? Any suggestions for other "hide and seek" achievements?

Note, the Conjurgation book is on the left shelf, 2nd shelf up. Not on the floor as mentioned in one spot above.

Comentario de kitkat75

Also if you're trying to complete this achievement /join bookclub. My server has a bunch of people in this chat channel and they'll announce any book sightings so you can run there and grab the book (hopefully). It's also nice for if you're on an alt then you can swap over real quick to go read the book. Don't know how many other servers have this going on though.

Comentario de DTAWOM

Weirdunclebob's macro is awsome. This only works for priests, but it saves the hastle of running around the city. I made a few tweaks to it for the books I still needed and this one you don't have to break 1/2 way through. Stand somwhere near the violet citadel. Then click on the macro button, left click, right click, ctrl left click, ctrl right click, alt left click, and alt right click. Then break mind vision and start again. This macro can be modified fairly easily for each preist depending on which books you have left. Just add/change the name of a mob close to the book you need. For somebody that needs all the books you can easily add the middle mouse button 3 (Scroll Click) to this rotation or even the side mouse buttons 4 and 5. Just remember that the next button target has to be within mind vision range of the previous one. My macro just rotates around the city from the violet citadel, to the balcony of the Threads Of Fate, Then To The Bar, The Portal Room, The Violet Hold Area, and finally the Visitor Center.

This data suggests the following:- Books never respawn within 3 hours of being read.- Books never respawn after 4 hours of being read.- That the percentage of a book being a junk book is around 75/80%, thus that you have about 25% chance to get your 'Schools of Arcane Magic - X' per spawn.- RNG is RNG.- Books despawn within 4 minutes of being read. The 3 hour cooldown is triggered when read, not when the book despawns.

Another thing I can confirm, this morning when the servers came online every book was available (2 being schools of arcane magic books, 6 being junk books, which supports the 25% theory).

Happy camping!

Comentario de Antharas

Hey All,

Been doing this for about a day or two now camping the books and running back and forth. One thing that I have noticed that I havn't seen being mentioned is that the "Fake" books that spawn do in fact reset the timer for respawn.

After multiple fake book finds, I've noticed that nothing spawns in that specific spot within 3-4 hours from that point. There is no guarantee to getting a real book within the 3-4 hour time period and you may have to wait multiple times for one book.

Almost done, one left and I will be so happy when this is over with!

-Antharas

Comentario de CDNBC250

Reply if you've done this achievement / have the pet.

I know this is kinda senseless given there's "11 million" players, but I just wanted to get an idea as to how many people have the patience for this.

I was a giddy SOB when I finally completed this. Got some good stories about doing this achieve, too.

Comentario de sivla

These books, once you have done the chevo...are you still able to click them? in 8 months and counting trying to complete this achievement, I haven't even got 1 book, and our realm is literally the rock bottom for populations in europe, therefore considering the population level, and such in 8 months it would be impossible to not get 1 book...however thats the position I am in.

They are not in the places the video shows at all...never once seen one in any of the locations tbh. Which makes me wonder if every book is a random spawn that could go anywhere and not just crates and bookshelves?

Comentario de Lullichiiqa

I just saw all the books spawning at 04:00 AM (8 mins ago)Sadly after the first i read - which got noted as i had readed it, the other books didn't count. They had some different names, then normal. But it's the same please where the "correct" book would be, and they did despawn after 2 - 3 mins after reading them.

So maybe you ain't able to get more then 1 at the time now?

I'll at least check up on it since I was sitting at waited for the server restart at 5 AM - so the books are going to respawn again.

Comentario de Kirska

I've been able to complete 6/8 books rather easily since Cataclysm came out by checking at odd hours like 8 am Sunday since there are so few people that frequent Dalaran now.

Comentario de Magetastic

The Schools of Arcane Magic - Conjuration is no longer on the floor between the two bookcases, rather it's now on the lowest shelf of the left (West) bookcase.

Comentario de LoreMooster

I just completed this. I used the Argent Crusader's Tabard to get to Dalaran quickly. A few things I'd like to reiterate here. Each book has a specific spawn location. If you've found a book in one spot, you can stop looking there on your visits. This will speed up your sweep of the city.

Comentario de Gizeeh

well to this date, nobody cares about that im sharing books on my server, i have posted plenty of times in trade, nobody cares.. well lucky me there is few in dala, so this will be easier now as in wotlk , need some books left..

Comentario de ataaa

i think these books are respawn in random places because i found abjoration in Violet Citadel

Comentario de GreatBlueChocobo

Hello all. I'm now working on this Achieve for the third time. I don't know if any of you know much about game programing, but to link that many areas under the same timer is a b****. I'm not saying I'm a know-it-all, but I've noticed a pattern.

>>THEORY<<

I don't think the "spawn timers" are on a 3-4 hour like I've seen people saying. I think each place has it's own timer with a % chance to spawn a fake book or a School of book. I've noticed that the times differ at different points. From 3,3.5,4,6, 12 and 24 hour spawns depending on location.

I believe I've narrowed down some spots.

Introduction is a 4 hour

Abjuration is a 4 hour

Conjuration is a 3.5 hourDivination is a 12 hourEnchantment is a 6 hourIllusion is still 24 hour

If my finding are true then I'll be seeing a Ench pop here in a few mins.Also, the new findings disprove my Illusioin spawn time theory.

Comentario de GreatBlueChocobo

Unconfirmed.

I waited till 2:07pm PST Sun, March 20, 2011 and no book of any kind, however there is the fact that I only found the fake book at 8:47. Given time to write it down, touch it and despawn this could add in factors I haven't figured out yet.

Ether way, with the info I have gathered on this achievement I don't think the four hour thing is true. Need more research.

Comentario de tobindax

This turns out to be one of the hardest achievements in the game. Now in 4.0.6+ that people aren't even in Dalaran, it makes it ridiculous. Transfer it to Orgrimmar and Stormwind maybe.

Comentario de TRIDENTEII

I am a worrior can i do this archievement or not. I don't totaly not if i can do this like a worrior, the tell nothing how can do this?. I want to do all the archiements and this is one of them.

Greeting Firell, Twisting Nether :)

Comentario de bomaya

Just got my last four books in the last few days. Now that no one is in Dala no one reads the books so they sit there for ages. Got to see the room and get the pet. :D

Comentario de EmberDione

Due to the few number of people in Dalaran these books just sit around, not being read. My last time in 3 books were up.

If you missed a book or two before, it might be worth it to try now. Also, it helps to have the Dalaran Ring for the port, the Tournament Tabard, to port there and fly down, or bribe a mage.

Edit: Why the down votes, all of this is completely true and could be helpful.

Comentario de Talboth

Helpful tip: Take advantage of server resets lately for book hunting. As soon as the server resets books are in the spawn locations. Same odds of being a Mastery book as usual but still, a guaranteed spawn of some kind to check out!

Comentario de jendrabaelgun

My tip for getting this achievement on multiple characters:

Make a grid in Word/Excel with the book locations down the side and your character names across the top. Print it out or keep it handy on your computer. Check each book off as you find it. It saves time when you find a book and you're not sure which of your characters has it.

Good luck!

Comentario de Vlad

If you have GatherMate2 installed you can use this once to add the books as nodes into the database:/run local g,x,y=GatherMate2 for _,c in pairs({{.566,.458},{.309,.465},{.435,.470},{.470,.395},{.522,.555},{.265,.517},{.646,.531},{.471,.394}})do x,y=unpack(c)g:AddNode(504,x,y,1,"Treasure","Netherwing Egg")end g:GetModule("Display"):UpdateMaps()The nodes on the map will count as "Treasure" and have the Huevo de Ala Abisal icon and name.This is due to macro length limitations, so I simply used already existing treasure data.

You can one by one right-click the nodes and delete them as you loot the book on that position. It will also save as long you keep GatherMate2 enabled, just remember to check "Show Treasure Nodes" in the options or the nodes will not show on the maps!

Comentario de VicarChromaggus

I have been busy with this achievement for a couple of hours now.

At this very moment, at current patch I have noticed for certain that always 2 books spawn at the same time.Most of the time it was a fake and a real on two locations.Every hour or so I found another book, and sometimes extra fake books every 30 minutes (on 1 location).Safe to say it that highly probable a fake book spawns every half an hour and a real book spawns about every hour. (together with either another real book or a fake one on seperate locations).

This is probably changed from the old original achievementitem conditions.

Comentario de spordelia

i must have been terribly unlucky. ever since WotLK was there, time and again I tried to fill dalaran waiting time (for groups etc) with hunting down these books for the achie

so far i haven't found a single book!if it wasn't for all these comments here I'd be surely conviced they were a myth or bugged or both.....

Comentario de ZeBishop

To answer a few questions I had read and based on my current observations :

A lot of books can spawn : on the run I made for this post I had 6 books spawnedYou can have more than one real book. I had conjuration, necromancy and illusion, as well as 3 fakes (polymorphic regulations, The archmage antonidas P1 and losses of the 3rd war).

I made that check at 10h35 Server time. Now, I feel that I got really lucky on that one because the best I had so far was just one real book.

Comentario de Teebee2010

Does the achievement still award the pet?

I got the achievement last week and only received the book in my mailbox.

(Or am I missing something?)

Comentario de Slilialumen

SPAWN TIME UPDATE

Books now spawn much more rapidly. Either a "flavor" book or a school book shows up every 15-30min in one or more of the locations. They show up a few minutes either side of the top and bottom of the hour pretty consistantly. I have seen books spawn + or - 8 minutes and the top of the hour seems to have more school books and less "flavor" books. Other times are much less predictable.

Best bet for finishing it quickly get to Dalaran 10 min before the hour and camp or path till 10 after.

Good Hunting

Just had Divination pop in Violet tower 2nd level at 7:44pm server.

Comentario de Slilialumen

SPAWN TIME UPDATE

Books now spawn much more rapidly. Either a "flavor" book or a school book shows up every 30min in one or two of the locations. They show up a few minutes either side of the top and bottom of the hour. I have seen books spawn + or - 8 minutes and the top of the hour seems to have more school books and less "flavor" books.

Best bet for finishing it quickly get to Dalaran 10 min before the hour and camp or path till 10 after.

Good Hunting

Comentario de redsunrising15

Got all the books in just under an hour, gotta love empty dalaran.

Comentario de bridgetn88

Ive got this on about 18 toons now, even a lvl 1 bank toon now has this - fun pet, and even better when ppl ask "where did u get it" I always have some stupid place, and make them go farm for a bit before tellin me i was just trollin ^_^

"hey you gota go to outlands, in hellfire, and search around the 3 towers for a rare spawn of this pet, kill boars and worms near the paths to help spawn him" lol

Comentario de Mookalina

Guide to Higher Learning Achievement1. Go to the Ledgermain Lounge2. Empty bookshelf downstairs by the stove (Transmutation 47,39)3. Go upstairs4. Room with 4 beds: empty bookshelf (Necromancy 46,39)5. Go to the balcony and jump off6. Go to the Threads of Fate7. Go upstairs8. Balcony: near crates on the right (Enchantment 43,47)9. Jump off10. Go to the Violet Citadel11. Left bookshelf on the right downstairs (Conjuration 30,46)12. Go upstairs13. Ground between bookshelves on left by Caverns of Time portal (Divination 26,51)14. Jump down15. Go to the Dalaran Visitor Center16. Ground by guild vendor on the right (Abjuration 52,55)17. Go to the Violet Hold18. Take a sharp left19. By crates in the corner (Illusion 64,52)20. Go to the teleportation room21. Ground by right bookshelf (Introduction 56,45)Got this info mainly from: w w w . y o u t u b e . c o m / w a t c h ? v = 3 l i X n M l L W e A (take the spaces out, i wasnt allowed to post a link)I got the coordinates from: http://static.wowhead.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/112125.jpgGOOD LUCK!

Comentario de IronIron

A server restart respawns all books!

I checked all the spawns (all empty), then 'Server restart in 5min' message came up.

Checked again after the restart and every single spawn had a book!

...but they were all fakes, which I initially thought to be by design :\

Managed to be around for a second reset and again all books were up after the reset (2 were the correct books for the achievement)

I can also confirm that the respawn timer is not 3 hours, because after looting all the books after a reset I sat a character there and expected all books to repop 3hrs later. Some appeared after just 1 hour.

Edit: Updated info learned from second server restart

Comentario de mentallyvexed

I just checked most of the spawn points fairly quickly after a reset and was able to get 2 books, so the book that's up might not be the proper one but it's still worth checking.

Comentario de carlyrosk

The pet is like a lock's voidwalker. TWO MARSHMELLOWS!

Comentario de sweethart

Tip: After your server gets refreshed, you will find books on every spawn place.

Comentario de Melyldya

i have to say i love the fake book 'the fluffy bunny' :)

Comentario de HydroKyogre

In the last 2 days, I have found and read 22 of the books that spawn. Out of the 22, 1 of those (enchantment) counted toward the achievement.

:|

Comentario de Fakeheal

Hey, guys. You have posted really helpful comments and I succeeded on doing this quest.Once when I was cleaning my bags I delete the reward item by mistake. How can I take it back? :(

Comentario de Mordantine

Have made a blackberry group called Higher Learning to enable people to keep track of books if they are camping or to share tips.

Comentario de RandomGui

That's amusing, as that video was made before Cata was out, when the level cap was still 80.

Comentario de seahen

I just noticed this tonight. On some bookcases in Dalaran, including the one where Conjuration spawns, the books (not just the clickable one, all those on the case) have a much shorter draw distance than normal and will fade in and out for a moment while I run up to them or mouselook around them. I suspect all of these spawn clickable books, and this can help anyone who wants to scout out spawn points. (This may depend on graphics settings.)

Comentario de iambigdaddy

I can confirm that all eight books are up immediately after a reset, as I just read 8 books. However, they were all 'fake' books, not the ones needed for the achievement.

Good leisure reading though.

Comentario de Neutralis

Just got it after 2 months of reading book after book. When you finally complete the achievement you'll get a nice little gift from Rhonin. Use it to get to the top of the spire and talk to the guy there to get your companion.

Comentario de foxbuster

Any respawn changes since Cataclysm?

Comentario de Mulockt

Do you have to be a caster or something to find these? I have searched for weeks and not one yet!

Comentario de Naiek

When you find one of these, be kind enough to announce it in Trade and Guild chat. Spam even. Do not click it right away, even thought it takes a few minutes to despawn after you have read it, give other people the chance to make their way there.

I personally wait for the first person to get there and click it before I click it myself. Since being in a level 25 Guild, I even offer an invite to mass summon those who do not have a Kirin Tor ring (yet) and find interest in exploring further in the world of warcraft.

This deed could help a fellow horde or alliance in getting that last tome when they least expect it, or even happen to you!

Comentario de Lygophilia

So I ran a test with a friend to see if I could be summoned to her location once she used the book to teleport to Vargoth's retreat. While it did work, Vargoth would only talk to me and would not give me the pet. So, without the book, you can only go there, you can't get a familiar of your own. What a shame. :P

Comentario de Purrrple

As a pet collector I figured I'd better finally try for this one... so I'll just keep going until I get it!I used to casually check for book spawns whenever I was in Dalaran but never found one, not even a fake book.... so I bit the bullet and spent literally 12+ hours a day doing lap-after-lap-after-lap-after-lap........... I also read how people were recommending to try '10 minutes before and after the hour' for book spawns... so I tried this at first, but as the days wore on I noticed both fake and real books can spawn at any time.

See below for all book spawn times (real books written in as they were found):

*edit notes* Some of the real books definitely spawn more than others, noticeable even after 3 days. Also there is a little bit of time where nothing happens for an hour or so.

I've also commented under each actual book's page with my spawn times at each location, for each fake and real book as they were found.I just hope maybe all of this will help someone else in trying for the achievement & pet. It was worth a boring 3 days to get!

Good luck!

- Oceanic server Jubei'Thos

Comentario de Ladyblace

This achievement takes time an effortThe books can be a pain but the reward is fun and worth it

Comentario de Lalaana

You don't have to go in order, right? Do you have to start out with Introduction? I can't seem to find any so I guess somebody beat me to it.

Comentario de dythe

This may have been stated already, but more than one of the actual books can be out at the same time! I just checked around Dalaran and found two fake books and two real books (Enchantment and Divination). Not bad. :)

Comentario de alicyndecay

Is anybody else having issues doing this on multiple alts ? I finished this on my DK a few nights ago, and I've noticed that the wine glass in violet hold where the book "Illusion" would spawn is no longer there, and this applies to ALL of my alts that I want this achievement on...

If this is limited to one toon only, I wish Blizzard would have MENTIONED that. Ever since I did this on my DK the wine glass disappeared at the VH. I tried to log onto my druid right after I read Illusion b/c they were camped at the same spot (that book is painful to camp for, as it's a rare spawn), and this is when I first noticed this glitch. Pretty annoying crap...

Comentario de haideau

Anyone else having this problem? I read the book, it never despawned. I only found 3 books.

Comentario de hippytigress

I just started working on this achievement today. I have found 2 of the books. I will say that the comments on this subject have helped me a great deal. Thanks to all of you who have made comments.

Comentario de Banerick

The count down timer doesn't appear to be affected by the weekly maintainance reset. I was one of the first ones on my realm to log in today after they came back up and none of the books was available.Makes sense that they wouldn't be but ... it would have been nice

Comentario de Jayine

Higher Learning - Book Spawn Times

The 3-4 Hour Spawn Time that other people have suggested is seemingly incorrect.Fake and Achievement Books can spawn really, Anytime.

I Read 5 books at around 4:20 pm Server, 3 Achievement books and 2 Non - Achievement books then came back 45 minutes - 1 hour later and found 3 Non Achievement books & 1 Achievement book had spawned again.

I came back 10 hours later (Which is inconsistent with the suggested 3-4 hour spawn time)And found 4 Non-Achievement books and 1 Achievement book spawn about 10-20 minutes apart from each other

In my opinion the best thing you can do is camp these books

Hope this helped & Happy Hunting =)

Comentario de Thaag

I have noticed something....a few times there's an apple with a bite out of it in the spot where the book is supposed to spawn. I think this may be a marker.

Edit: In some places, if you angle your point of view, things appear and disappear in the spot where the books are supposed to appear. You can acquaint yourself with these locations and know exactly where to look.

Comentario de Esploratore

Mmm, I read the first and last page, found no comments about this. If a book stays unread for 25 mins? Like one I already have and I'm looking at it now (not reading, nor anyone is doing)? Theoretically, if no one reads it does it stay there forever? Over 25 mins that it's there atm.

Comentario de digitalutopia1

Note: This is not new information. The only purpose here is to combine all the wonderful information provided by Mookalina (which books and location descriptions) and Dreamer23 (More accurate coordinates) into one Tom Tom macro. I put this together because the existing macros were too inaccurate for my taste, didn't have location descriptions, and/or didn't have the names of the books.

I found that I didn't know whether or not I should even bother looking at a location (i.e. already found the book before), and when I got there, I wasn't sure exactly where I should be looking, so I assembled this 3-part macro to solve both of these issues in one fell swoop:

/way Dalaran 30.78 45.89 Conjuration (Left bookshelf on the right downstairs)/way Dalaran 26.49 52.21 Divination (Ground between bookshelves on left by Caverns of Time portal)/way Dalaran 52.38 54.76 Abjuration (Ground by guild vendor on the right)

Comentario de jcarmosino

From what I can tell they don't have to be collected in any order, but they sure are a pain to find. Good luck for everyone trying to get this done. One of the screen shots really help, one with different color dots showing the book. GL GUYS!

Comentario de wicked7000

Can Any Level do this Because im Level 64 Is there a 85 Level Req For these to Spawn or am I just very unlucky :/

Comentario de Paradoxic

Ok guys I hope this is helpful. I have been recording the times between reading the book and a new one respawning. It seems the books have an individual consistent respawn time, but so far I only have four of the books information because I only started recording the times after I already had the first four, so I will edit/update this with new information later. Also I only have a single time period for one of the books as I got it second try, but if they are all the same, which is what I assume given the data so far, then it will be close to accurate.

I have only been recording the data for a single day and repeated it three times, so the data is limited, but it is consistent. Below are the times I checked the books and the time period for the respawn.

Comentario de ahunger871

Got rid of the pet for this achievement in 5.0 apparently

Comentario de Carleman

If you prefer video instructions, have dyslexia och simple to lazy to read what people has previously told you how to find these books. Then fell free to watch this short video guide of this achievement that i made sort of as an experiment in order to improve my "video making skillz" , i hope you´ll find it helpful.

youtube.com/watch?v=_Vl3roI6OjA

and good luck with this achievement. =)

Comentario de Yewzie

Hi guys, just made an account to comment this, The books generally spawn every 3 1/2-4 hours, they stay in place until clicked (even if it takes 2 hours for someone to click it) and have an infuriating knack of spawning fake books (i dont know what the % chance for fake to spawn is, but id guess 60-70% from experience...) before the new pet and achievement system i had this pet on 4 characters from either camping books, forming a "book club" and collaborating with other people camping books i needed etc, or just plain luck. BUT! for those of you who dont want to sit around waiting and waiting and waiiiiiting. heres a little secret. After ANY restart/reboot/maintenance of the server, ALL the books are in their spawn locations when the world comes back up, yes, thats right, there is a book in every spawn location at the same time, unfortunately this does not prevent fake books from spawning, but with the amount of nightly restarts since MoP it improves your chances somewhat! heres to everyone having kirin tor familiar pets! HUZZAH!

Comentario de Rallelol

Divination: In Violet Citadel, near portal to caverns of Time.Illusion: On a left box by first gates to Violed Hold.Conjuration: in the Violet Citadel, on the bookshelf right of Rhonin.Abjuration: In Dalaran somewhere in general visit center.Introduction: On the floor of teleport crystal room.Necromancy: On the empty bookshelf of Legerdemain Lounge (top floor)Transmutation: On the empty bookshlef of Legerdemain Lounge (bottom floor)Enchancement: On the balcony of Threads of Fate store.

Reward: You will have book in mailbox.The book can teleport you to the secret room of Violet Citadel.

Comentario de Briasperia

After taking an embarrassing amount of time to complete this achievement, I was thrilled to finally receive The Schools of Arcane Magic - Mastery in the mail. To my surprise, though, no Kirin Tor Familiar came with it. You must use the book, which teleports you to Archmage Vargoth's Retreat inside Violet Citadel. Talk to him and he will thank you profusely for showing him such an exciting book and give you a Kirin Tor Familiar for your trouble. Why Blizzard doesn't flag the book as a quest item, I'm not sure, but if they had, I wouldn't have taken a day and a ticket to get my little Kirin Tor guy.

Comentario de pendergast4

Books locations:

Location: Dalaran Visitor Center (52.2,55.5), on the floor to the right as you go in, in front of the little table with books on it.

Location: Violet Citadel (30.9,46.3), group of bookcases on the right as you go in, Bottom of the left bookcase.

Location: Violet Citadel (26.5,51.7), Up the stairs to the left, on the floor in front of the bookcase, next to the sands of time portal.

Location: Threads of Fate (Cloth Armor shop)(43.6,47.1), Go up stairs out on the balcony on top of a crate to your right as you walk out onto the balcony.

Location: Violet Hold (64.5,52.8), as you go in head to the left and against the wall on the left crate, next to Archmage Timear.

Location: Violet Gate (Crystal Portal)(56.7,46.1), to your right as you enter (northern bookcase) on the floor in front of bookcase.

Comentario de phoenixeternia

For anyone still doing this heres a macro for tomtom just copy and paste it to a macro and it adds the map markers with the names of the books so you can delete them from the list as you find each one and you don't need to farm that spawn point anymore (or you can and just call out the book that you find) ^_^

Edited to add transmutation! Can't believe I missed it off. sorry guys and best of luck getting that pet! I finally got mine and managed to help a few others by announcing when books spawned.

Comentario de bettybae

Call me stupid for saying this - but the progress for this achievement is not account-wide. I've seen a couple of raid achievements being account-wide and thought this would be the same... NO. D'oh!

TLDR; Farm only on one character. Enjoy!

Comentario de Monklover

Took about me 2 to 3 days to get this achieve. I started looking for these books from mid Saturday to about dinner time on Monday.

The first day, I would dungeon on my low lvl toon and then I would check all of the spawn points. I got lucky my first day and got about half of the books for the achieve. The second day, I found that some of the spawn points spawned more of the fake books than the real ones where you could get 3 or 4 fakes in a row from the same spawn point. I got really frustrated so I started camping the books late into my second day. I would attempt the calculate the exact spawn timers. From my observation, the spawn timers are either 3 hours, 3 and a half hours, or 4 hours; however, most of the spawn timers were 3 and a half hours or 4 hours.

If you are not going to camp these books, I would suggest randomly checking between 2 am and 8 am since not a lot of people are in Dal at this time where a lot of the books would be up. These books do not have a despawn timer unless someone reads the book. Furthermore, the despawn timer is about a minute after reading the book.

Books that spawned more fakes and were more difficult to get:DivinationConjurationIntroduction

Comentario de LoveHunters

I do notice (as I've read in other comments) that the books stay for a few minutes after reading them and I can even click it more than once and read it again, but my question is.... as long as the book is still there, is it available for anyone to read or does it become non-clickable once the first person has read it?

Thanks!

EDIT: Ok, so I found this information perusing the posts more slowly....

Q: Can other people read it while its on the 3 min despawn timer, or is it just there taunting people for being slow? :)

A: My brother and I went around Dalaran doing this today, and I can confirm that multiple people can read it within the 3 minute despawn timer.

Comentario de eurolink

Although these books usually spawn in pairs, all spawn points can be active at the same time. Went to Dalaran in the middle of the night and found all 7 books up, of which only 1 was a "Schools of Arcane Magic" book.

Comentario de geekygirlish

This has got to be hands down the WORST ach ever. If I ever saw one of these books I think I would faint with shock and surprise. And it is not for lack of trying. I went around and did the well read ach, so I am not above grinding out a ach. On 24 different alts, on different realms, searching, I have seen in total two books, both of which were the fake ones. I even waited for the server restart, the minute the realm went live I logged in and looked. Nothing

Would be nice to have this pet but even I have limits of how badly I will camp something, and this is from someone old school who sat for three days to get Humar :)

Comentario de Amy86

Some of this information may be in other comments but here is absolutely everything I've learned about this hard- to-get achievement. I also included the log I kept in case it's helpful to others. Note-I'm on Zul'jin server. *all times are in local, not server time*There are 8 Schools of Arcane Magic Books. Each book has a spawn rate of 3-4 hours-- NOT only 3 hours, 3.5 hours, or 4 hours as some have previously said. They will spawn at any time in that hour span. They do frequently spawn in pairs. After clicking/reading it, it will despawn in exactly 3 minutes. If no one reads it, it will stay up indefinitely. So if it is a 'fake' book, you need to read it to make another book appear in 3-4 hours. Abjuration (52,54) A brown book on the first floor of Dalaran Visitor Center (bookcase on your right when you enter) on the floor in front of the table with a few books on it. Conjuration (30,46) A blue book on the first floor of the Violet Citadel (the two bookcases on your right when you enter), on the left of the bottom shelf of the leftmost bookcase.Divination (26,51) A blue book on the second floor of the Violet Citadel, in front of the the two bookcases to the left of the stairs.Enchantment (43,46) A blue book on top of the right most crate on the balcony of the Threads of Fate. Illusion (64,52) A brown book on a crate near the left wall of Violet Hold next to Archmage Timear. Introduction (56,46) A blue book in the Violet Gate, on the floor in front of the right bookcase. Necromancy (46,39) A blue book upstairs in the Legerdemain Lounge, the west room, it will be the only book on the bookcase. Transmutation (46,40) A grey/green striped book on the first floor of the Legerdermain Lounge near the door.

2:10 am threads of fate out side on balcony on top of crate on the opposite side of Shandy book spawn

2:53 am dalaran visitor center on floor next to stool bookspawn

5:35 am legerdemain bottom floor to the right on empty bookshelf next to stove book spawn

6:55 am dalaran visitor center on floor next to stool book spawn

8:22 am book dal visitor center on floor next to stool book spawn

11:45 am all books are fake, none of real book spawns for achieve

3:30 pm dalaran visitor center on floor next to stool bookspawn3:42 pm violet hold on the right side next toTimear quest giver last and final book - illusion book

Now I did this for 33 straight hours, and the Illusion book spawnedonly once, it is out of all the books the rarest.. Best chance of getting this achieve is do what i did, i didn't just camp one spot, i flew from one spawn point to another , if a book was up especially a fake one i would click itso it would despawn and the next would spawn.now you only have to click it to get credit for book or despawn it, now once you click one book wether it be real or fake, another one will spawn in one of the other spawn points, no spawn point will spawn 2 books in the same spawn time frame, it will spawn a book in all 8 locations one by one, but it you do notdespawn the book when it appears another one will not spawn,and theres a chance more then one of the books you need will spawnat the same spawn time.And there is a chance you will get all fake books and have to wait till the next spawn , The books will stay up for 2 to 3 minutes and another book, will appear 5 to 30 minutes after you despawn that book, so best case scenario after you despawn bookwait till it disappears then mount up and fly to every other locationa book HAS not spawned in yet, and as you can see the spawn timewill vary from 1 hour to 1.5 hours, to 3 hours , to even 6 hours, so patience is a must , but if you get all books it is worth it, because you get a awesome pet.Happy hunting hope this helps :)

Comentario de Pipkins

I don't know about you, but I've been told by other people online and various guides about several strange points about this achievement that I'm uncertain whether are just rumours or not. It's been tricky finding information that I can rely on as up to date because most comments were written in WotLK. Here's a list of everything I've heard:

I'm a little confused about an ambiguity on the location of Divination. Each book is supposed to spawn in one spot, but on the map it also shows up in The Legerdemain Lounge as well as the Violet Citadel. At first i took this as an error, but some of the old hands in my guild assured me that it does spawn there. My guess is that they did it back in the days of WotLK when perhaps it did used to spawn there, but has since been changed.

"If you read the fake books that spawn in the genuine ones' place, the spawn time on the next is increased". From what I've seen the fake books don't despawn until they are read, presumably meaning the spawn time on the next is not started until then.

"After a server restart, the genuine books spawn in all locations." Probably half true-all locations spawn a book, but not necessarily the ones needed for the achievement. Unless you are online when the count down starts and can quickly relog after the reset, it's probably irrelevant anyway.

"There's no need to camp-You will get it easily by just checking in on the locations now and then." I did this for most of the books, but after reading that they disappear five minutes after spawning I think I must have just been quite lucky. You will probably end up with one book left that you have to camp.

"The spawn locations have different chances of procuring the real book." Seems to be the case. If you look at the individual books' pages, comments describe three of four potential fake books on some and just one on others.

Reply if you can confirm or deny some of these so that anyone doing this achievement doesn't have to wonder whether they are doing it right or not, or just downvote me if I have repeated a load of rubbish

Comentario de NorlandoDarrow

For your own sanity, I would recommend not camping the books 24/7. I was able to get all of them in 2 weeks by casually popping by Dalaran every now and then (using my ring of the kirin tor) on medium pop. realms. The only one I camped (every three hours) was the last one I needed in the Violet Citadel.

NOTE: In order to get the pet, use the book and talk to the only person in that room. He will give you the pet.

Comentario de scollinsgt

I did this all today. I got 7 books today. I documented every step to see if I could find a pattern. Here is my log.

Comentario de Lottibby

It took me roughly two days to obtain this achiev. I highly recommend Arfan's guide to this achievement. This guide definitely saved me time of camping sites and allowed me to do other things in game while I waited for the spawn times to come back around. I started on a Friday evening and had discovered them all by Saturday night. The books respawn every 3-4 hours. I've listed the spawn times I had so you can get a sense of the spawn times as well as see how many "real" books spawn during a given spawn rotation; the "real" books spawn times are underlined. As you can see by some of the times over 4 hours between spawns, I missed a few books (sleeping sometimes), so you very well could find them all faster than I did. (Ironically, the book I discovered on my first rotation through was Introduction :))

Comentario de shihao0

I'm not sure if this is true but according to the other top comments, the books disappear the moment u read it.. making them a "rare spawn" that people camp and fight for. But i noticed that the book still remains there even when i finished reading them. Please correct me if I am wrong and reasons to why this happens would be great.

EDIT: Nvm, I found out that they despawn 3mins later

Comentario de KiritaWindwalker

Putting this out here from my experience but... IM NOT INCLUDING SPAWN TIMES OR LOCATIONS! Only suggestions to less stressful farming!

But for me doing this, I saw hundreds of add ons. Most of the addons did not work. They would reset when I logged off and don't catch a spawn unless another person with that addon clicked it WHILE your on to let you know, you missed it... I really wouldn't waste your time with a addon... If there is a decent one, I never saw it to try. The best I found was the ones that would mark the location on your map similar to NPC scan.

My suggestion, sit in Dal. Leave a alt there (more if ya can at each location to try) and just check between queues or at least twice a day. If you use a alt for this and want the BOOK on your main then make sure you got a quick port to Dal of your own! They only spawn for a few minutes!

If you don't give a damn about anything but the achieve or the pet then just put a alt in Dal and leave them to look out.

Really, its against your instinct but DONT SIT AND FARM! These timers are suppose to be like 4 hours or so, many commenters have said other wise. So just poke in and out when ya got time or just sit there when ya feel like reading or watching TV. (check between chapters or during commercials!)

You'd have to be SUPER, UNGODLY LUCKY to get this in 1 day! Expect a long wait!

I personally got this by leaving a alt and checking once before work and then again when I was able to play again. Because I didn't care for the book, I just used my mage so if I felt like using her, it was a quick trip back. I also had friends who checked with me every now and then as they did the fishing and JC dailies so I did have a little help, it wasn't always helpful since they tended to see it after I left the house where I no longer how WoW!

My point, I didn't sit for hours, I popped in every now and then in free time and check the spawns I needed, got them all within about a week and a half.

Side Note: Be kind! /Yell and offer the news in general or trade! If your on a mage you might get a nice amount of tips for helping that lazy or hearthstone blocked person who also needs the tome! The tome can be clicked and used multiple times, so spread the love! :) You might make someones day!

Happy Hunting, Lore Nuts! :D

Comentario de Solvia

Don't do this on a starter account - the reward comes in the mail, which you can't access.

Don't ask me how I know... *goes to hide under a rock*

Edit: You can get the reward anyway, I think the toy-vendor in Dalaran was selling it after it my mail ran out. It's a while ago, so I THINK that was how I ended up getting it :-)

Comentario de Bodomi

And I've been told that books aren't boring....

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Comentario de Hilaeira

Progress is not shared with other characters. :( So checking multiple realms won't necessarily help you.

Comentario de Cipher92

Calling all Priests

To make this Achievement Easier than either camping one book until it spawns then moving onto the next OR constantly flying around, why not just sit still, create a few macros and check ALL the spawn locations very very quickly.

By using the Mind Vision spell I created a few macros that allow me to jump between NPC's and check all book locations in order.

Start off by Standing in front of the case for book #7 "Necromancy" then case each of these macros in order (I set them up on my secondary action bar when you just roll your mouse wheel for easy 1 through 8 buttons.

*** Only Hiccup ***When viewing Shandy you cannot reach Archmages Aethas with the next macro unless you manually select Aquanos which is right beside Shandy and cast Mind Vision. I might see if I can fix somehow with the above macro but I have found setting up #5 to just go to Aquanos doesn't load in the book crate at low graphics settings, however for everyone else just change Macro #5 to Aquanos in the /tar line to fix this.

#8 - Clear Target / Stop Casting Reset (so you can check the book right in front of you)/cleartarget/stopcasting

The "cleartarget" and the "stopcasting" are not necessary but I find it stops you from clicking your macro and not switching to the next NPC if it was not in range on the first click (due to load lag).

Hope this helps.

Comentario de davidgabriel

Just did this on my priest. Super competitive achievement. People everywhere are farming for it. I am a professional server hopper so this only took me one really long, really late night to do. Even if it only took me one night I can still see how difficult and crowded this achievement is. I was only able to get 1 for most of the day then i got 2 by night time. I was losing hope and interest until at around 5am everything went perfectly. I was able to find almost every book cross server for that one hour except for 1. I got is a few hours earlier but i got most of the others in that one hour period between 5-6am.

Comentario de tonac13

There is an interesting addon called Cross Realm Assist. It may significantly reduce the book hunting time. Worked for me, got them all in about 2 hours.