the biggest difference after "enlightenment" is there is no difference

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26868696

What is enlightenment? It is the result of the veils and veils being lifted to let more light in. If you are the same after that then before.......your windows need a cleaning...or you are at the end of that lesson......you see it is best if you let God supply you....then you realize...he always had.

the biggest difference after "enlightenment" is there is no difference

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26868696

What is enlightenment? It is the result of the veils and veils being lifted to let more light in. If you are the same after that then before.......your windows need a cleaning...or you are at the end of that lesson......you see it is best if you let God supply you....then you realize...he always had.

the biggest difference after "enlightenment" is there is no difference

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26868696

What is enlightenment? It is the result of the veils and veils being lifted to let more light in. If you are the same after that then before.......your windows need a cleaning...or you are at the end of that lesson......you see it is best if you let God supply you....then you realize...he always had.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1371470

absolutely! although i may have a different understanding of what you said than you do (terminology)

the biggest difference after "enlightenment" is there is no difference

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26868696

What is enlightenment? It is the result of the veils and veils being lifted to let more light in. If you are the same after that then before.......your windows need a cleaning...or you are at the end of that lesson......you see it is best if you let God supply you....then you realize...he always had.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1371470

absolutely! although i may have a different understanding of what you said than you do (terminology)

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26868696

Yes, I almost made a correction (my interpretation)to the statement, then I stopped and realized the content is almost dead on with my understanding.

A Course In Miracles says very correctly I think - A universal theology is impossible, but a universal experience is necessary.

The poster was stating, "nothing changed, everything is the same"....but just the mere passage of time between his original thought to post that "thought of nothing changing" and my reply is indeed a change.....a few minutes perhaps. But the point is things, us, life is dynamic, everything is in motion...even the things that are at rest.

The poster was stating, "nothing changed, everything is the same"....but just the mere passage of time between his original thought to post that "thought of nothing changing" and my reply is indeed a change.....a few minutes perhaps. But the point is things, us, life is dynamic, everything is in motion...even the things that are at rest.

Hey there Deej!I was at the Illinois center this past November, and I too recommend attending. I had so many positive experiences there between all the meditation, the "changes",nature walks, the excellent food and the trippy dreams.

I guess I would just add that while the center does teach Vipassana, it isn't the only way to learn it, and their methods are a bit different than others (only sitting meditation vs sitting+walking+laying+standing) You can find info about other methods here: [link to www.vipassanadhura.com]

"It was easy to love God in all that was beautiful. The lessons of deeper knowledge, though, instructed me to embrace God in all things." St Francis of Assisi

The measure of mental health is the disposition to find good everywhere. - Ralph Waldo Emerson.

The poster was stating, "nothing changed, everything is the same"....but just the mere passage of time between his original thought to post that "thought of nothing changing" and my reply is indeed a change.....a few minutes perhaps. But the point is things, us, life is dynamic, everything is in motion...even the things that are at rest.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1371470

is that so?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26868696

Other than God and Heaven....find the Universal reference point? Where is it....it is always moving like the center of the Universe. Spots of absolute zero or lower are in motion about warmer spots.

Hey there Deej!I was at the Illinois center this past November, and I too recommend attending. I had so many positive experiences there between all the meditation, the "changes",nature walks, the excellent food and the trippy dreams.

I guess I would just add that while the center does teach Vipassana, it isn't the only way to learn it, and their methods are a bit different than others (only sitting meditation vs sitting+walking+laying+standing) You can find info about other methods here: [link to www.vipassanadhura.com]

Quoting: KindaDistorted

Hey KD,

Thank you for putting that link out there and that is good info for anybody interested in meditation.

The style of meditation I use is contingent on my mood, surroundings and situation. If I'm agitated or in nature or some type of situation conducive, I prefer walking meditation. All things being normal though, I feel distracted by anything but simply watching my breath.

This can be difficult to beginning meditators though. If your having trouble calming your mind, (most of us do!) guided meditations may work best. The thing do remember is:

THERE IS NO WRONG WAY ... (just do it)

They call it your "Meditation Practice" for a reason. After over 20 years, I don't, have it... I'm better at it!