Originally posted by riverwild
Get ready for betting in your jammies, at work, from the kitchen table, or at the beach: New Jerseyans — and possibly many others — will soon be
able to gamble over the Internet.

I wonder how many New Jerseyians (sic?) would love a Kitchen, let alone a Table to Gamble at?

If they have money to loose from Internet Gambling, then good luck to them.

You are a sucker to the 'nth degree if you actually pay money to play on these sites.

One major site got great ratings from another site that specialized in rating online poker sites. People trusted it. Turns out, the ratings site was
owned by the major poker site. Go figure. There have been numerous poker sites that have been involved in cheating, scandals.. and I hope you folks
are smart enough to give them even a dime of your money. If the government was trying to protect folks from sites like this.. it's probably a great
idea.

A close friend of my wife just divorced a guy who was addicted to online gaming - he squandered 10s of thousands of dollars over several years, trying
to beat the system. You CAN'T WIN. When professional gamblers are asked, "can you come out ahead?" They will all answer.. NO! It's a losing
proposition. Only a tiny percentage will be good enough to win.. in the real world. You will not win in the online world. You may have a week or a
month or heck, even a year of fortune. But long term, you will lose. Who cares if they legalize it? It's a scam.

Originally posted by fleabit
You are a sucker to the 'nth degree if you actually pay money to play on these sites.

One major site got great ratings from another site that specialized in rating online poker sites. People trusted it. Turns out, the ratings site was
owned by the major poker site. Go figure. There have been numerous poker sites that have been involved in cheating, scandals.. and I hope you folks
are smart enough to give them even a dime of your money. If the government was trying to protect folks from sites like this.. it's probably a great
idea.

A close friend of my wife just divorced a guy who was addicted to online gaming - he squandered 10s of thousands of dollars over several years, trying
to beat the system. You CAN'T WIN. When professional gamblers are asked, "can you come out ahead?" They will all answer.. NO! It's a losing
proposition. Only a tiny percentage will be good enough to win.. in the real world. You will not win in the online world. You may have a week or a
month or heck, even a year of fortune. But long term, you will lose. Who cares if they legalize it? It's a scam.

If your talking about online slots or any other game where you compete against the house then yes I totally agree with you.

I play online poker a fair bit and over 4 years I have put $400 into my account and withdrawn just over $2000!!!!
Its not worth an online poker sites time to "cheat" the amount of money they make in taking the 10% entry fee for most tournys is a fortune. If they
got caught cheating they would lose credibility and what basically amounts to a license to print money.

Are you speaking from experience? There has been a few incidents where a single player was caught cheating only because he worked for the site and was
able to get into the server to see other players hole cards. Now the sites themselves aren't going to scam you because they take rake on live games
and a small house fee for tournaments. Oh and most people play small stakes sometimes micro stakes which isn't going to break you. Sounds like your
friend wasn't too great of a thinker if he didn't limit himself and started playing high stakes with money he didn't have yep no scam there just
another liberal drone with half a brain.

Originally posted by fleabit
If the government was trying to protect folks from sites like this.. it's probably a great idea.

A surefire nominee for "Worst Logic Of The Millenium" award.

ETA: guess i deleted the rest of the post on accident Ill sum it up:

I wonder if there is another part to this story. It is no big secret who makes money off gambling in New Jersey. So any action taken in regards to
gambling in New Jersey is sure to have an undercurrent of innuendo.

Well I am glad for this. Rite now unregulated casinos are taking advantage of US citizens. With a regulated option, would be nice. Before the US
pulled the ability of financial institutes to allow people to fund gambling, there were some good regulated sites , those sites stopped allowing Us
players. The roughish ones still allow them and rip people off.

Even if this passes, there is still a federal law on financial institutions allowing for transactions, so I am not sure how they will pass that
hurtle.

We should have the rite to play online or offline. Not everyone lives near a casino, and not everyone can leave their home. It is a moral decision if
you want to gable smoke or drink sugar soda, not the governments.

They had super user accounts that could see the opponents hole cards. it was proven by players and they have ultimately admitted to it.

These were the 4 biggest poker sites out there and they were cheating players

Im a big gambler and have deposited at online casinos and poker rooms to the tune of at least 40 or 50,000 over the years

For the most part online casino software does not cheat.. if you stay with the 3 major casino software groups out there
wich are Playtech, Real time gaming.and Microgaming.

Now there are some casinos out there that try not to pay you if you win, but the software does not cheat.. I have won alot of $$ at online casinos,
there payout rates are higher then vegas and all the riverboats you go to..

This is the best online casino and pokerroom watchdog it has a list of accredited casinos that will pay you if you win
and a list of rogued casinos that you want to stay away from www.casinomeister.com...
You can also find all the info on the poker rooms getting caught cheating

I couldnt find anything on google that said the sites themselves were involved in anything dodgy, saw some stories about rogue employees helping out
friends or accomplices though.

I just cant see a major site being involved in cheating, its just not worth it, they make about $10,000 an hour in rake, why cheat, individual players
and employees sure, but sites I just cant see it happening.

I play on 888poker and only in mid/low stakes tournys, no cash games, worst you get is maybe a few friends at the same table telling each other what
cards they have

I just cant see a major site being involved in cheating, its just not worth it, they make about $10,000 an hour in rake, why cheat, individual players
and employees sure, but sites I just cant see it happening

The big sites were all cheating , if you were the type of player the put on 50 buks every now and then and played the smaller limit tables you were
probably never cheated.

But if you ever bought into a bigger tournament say over 100$ you were probably cheated at least at these sites

just google absolute poker cheating scandal.. you will get 1000s of hits. it was not just an employee who got in the servers it was the owners of the
site and they cheated players out of millions..
herres one smokinaces.com...
Absolute and Ultimate bet were owned by the same people and there biggest spokesman was Phil hellmuth 'poker brat"

I have been playing for years too . I have seen a dramatic cutback in the percentage that pays out over the years. i have played online for 14 years .
On Rtg, 100 would last hours, now your lucky to get a half hour.

I still play, though not as much. Tired of never making a cash out. I really think they are playing the lowest RTP they can .

I would like to see some competition, from the US market, and maybe the play will get better again. I would also love to have microgaming back here.
Would be great if some of the brick casinos could strike a deal for the software.

I have been playing for years too . I have seen a dramatic cutback in the percentage that pays out over the years. i have played online for 14 years .
On Rtg, 100 would last hours, now your lucky to get a half hour.

I still play, though not as much. Tired of never making a cash out. I really think they are playing the lowest RTP they can .

I would like to see some competition, from the US market, and maybe the play will get better again. I would also love to have microgaming back here.
Would be great if some of the brick casinos could strike a deal for the software.

Yeah I loved The Microgaming software.. I use to hate the rtgs but now that its the only one to allow american players Ive grown to like it

BUt I would love to see microgaming back I loved that slot Fearless Fredrick

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