GAT_00:violentsalvation: Good lord he's aged enough to play Noonien Soong without the prosthetics and makeup.

The man's 64. And it's probably a bit more shocking because they had to make him up more and more every year to keep him from aging.

Cake on enough silvery white make up and you can fill up the facial lines. Just don't make too many facial expressions. Although with the emotion chip in the movies, I suppose someone had to run up and respackle after he made one of those disturbing rounds of android laughter.

FunkOut:GAT_00: violentsalvation: Good lord he's aged enough to play Noonien Soong without the prosthetics and makeup.

The man's 64. And it's probably a bit more shocking because they had to make him up more and more every year to keep him from aging.

Cake on enough silvery white make up and you can fill up the facial lines. Just don't make too many facial expressions. Although with the emotion chip in the movies, I suppose someone had to run up and respackle after he made one of those disturbing rounds of android laughter.

If they wanted to work him into a future Trek movie all they need to do is use the same process they used for CLU in Tron Legacy. Since he's an android, the uncanny valley would actually work in the film's favor.

Mad_Radhu:If they wanted to work him into a future Trek movie all they need to do is use the same process they used for CLU in Tron Legacy. Since he's an android, the uncanny valley would actually work in the film's favor.

I imagine they could use similar techniques to what they used in Looper. There are a lot of options.

I was trying to get into Star Trek because I really love sci-fi as a genre, and I found that, while I'm not a fan in general, I think TNG is much, much, MUCH better than the original series. Mostly because Patrick Stewart and Levar Burton.

Smelly McUgly:I was trying to get into Star Trek because I really love sci-fi as a genre, and I found that, while I'm not a fan in general, I think TNG is much, much, MUCH better than the original series. Mostly because Patrick Stewart and Levar Burton.

Smelly McUgly:I was trying to get into Star Trek because I really love sci-fi as a genre, and I found that, while I'm not a fan in general, I think TNG is much, much, MUCH better than the original series. Mostly because Patrick Stewart and Levar Burton.

End threadjack.

The Original Series is good campy fun, but nowhere near the quality of the later series in writing, acting, or production design. I think TNG is a great show overall (although it had a rough first couple of seasons), but DS9 holds up much better.

NeoCortex42:Smelly McUgly: I was trying to get into Star Trek because I really love sci-fi as a genre, and I found that, while I'm not a fan in general, I think TNG is much, much, MUCH better than the original series. Mostly because Patrick Stewart and Levar Burton.

End threadjack.

The Original Series is good campy fun, but nowhere near the quality of the later series in writing, acting, or production design. I think TNG is a great show overall (although it had a rough first couple of seasons), but DS9 holds up much better.

Khellendros:Mad_Radhu: If they wanted to work him into a future Trek movie all they need to do is use the same process they used for CLU in Tron Legacy. Since he's an android, the uncanny valley would actually work in the film's favor.

I imagine they could use similar techniques to what they used in Looper. There are a lot of options.

NeoCortex42:Smelly McUgly: I was trying to get into Star Trek because I really love sci-fi as a genre, and I found that, while I'm not a fan in general, I think TNG is much, much, MUCH better than the original series. Mostly because Patrick Stewart and Levar Burton.

End threadjack.

The Original Series is good campy fun, but nowhere near the quality of the later series in writing, acting, or production design. I think TNG is a great show overall (although it had a rough first couple of seasons), but DS9 holds up much better.

I also must note that I watched the pilot and then three of the episodes that people love the most. Stuff like City on the Edge of Forever might have been overhyped because I didn't think it was anything more than a good concept with some decent comedy bits in the middle of the story (Spock vulcan nerve-pinching the cop was the best thing in the whole episode).

Did Harlan Ellison write that episode, by the way, or am I thinking of another episode? Love Harlan Ellison, but I guess this was an example of him being a better short-story writer than TV episode writer if true. I know he wrote for Twilight Zone, too, but I can't remember if any of his episodes of TZ were top-tier.

Smelly McUgly:NeoCortex42: Smelly McUgly: I was trying to get into Star Trek because I really love sci-fi as a genre, and I found that, while I'm not a fan in general, I think TNG is much, much, MUCH better than the original series. Mostly because Patrick Stewart and Levar Burton.

End threadjack.

The Original Series is good campy fun, but nowhere near the quality of the later series in writing, acting, or production design. I think TNG is a great show overall (although it had a rough first couple of seasons), but DS9 holds up much better.

I also must note that I watched the pilot and then three of the episodes that people love the most. Stuff like City on the Edge of Forever might have been overhyped because I didn't think it was anything more than a good concept with some decent comedy bits in the middle of the story (Spock vulcan nerve-pinching the cop was the best thing in the whole episode).

Did Harlan Ellison write that episode, by the way, or am I thinking of another episode? Love Harlan Ellison, but I guess this was an example of him being a better short-story writer than TV episode writer if true. I know he wrote for Twilight Zone, too, but I can't remember if any of his episodes of TZ were top-tier.

Smelly McUgly:NeoCortex42: Smelly McUgly: I was trying to get into Star Trek because I really love sci-fi as a genre, and I found that, while I'm not a fan in general, I think TNG is much, much, MUCH better than the original series. Mostly because Patrick Stewart and Levar Burton.

End threadjack.

The Original Series is good campy fun, but nowhere near the quality of the later series in writing, acting, or production design. I think TNG is a great show overall (although it had a rough first couple of seasons), but DS9 holds up much better.

I also must note that I watched the pilot and then three of the episodes that people love the most. Stuff like City on the Edge of Forever might have been overhyped because I didn't think it was anything more than a good concept with some decent comedy bits in the middle of the story (Spock vulcan nerve-pinching the cop was the best thing in the whole episode).

Did Harlan Ellison write that episode, by the way, or am I thinking of another episode? Love Harlan Ellison, but I guess this was an example of him being a better short-story writer than TV episode writer if true. I know he wrote for Twilight Zone, too, but I can't remember if any of his episodes of TZ were top-tier.

The episode that made it to air was good, but it was the result of heavy revisions and editing. The original treatment was much darker, but it interfered with Roddenberry's utopian vision back when he had the power to actually veto that sort of thing.

The Wikipedia Page for the episode seems to do a pretty good job of providing an overview of all the controversy that surrounds that ep. The debate over behind-the-scenes issues has almost as much to do with the "hype" surrounding the episode as the finished product itself does. Probably worth the read.

Smelly McUgly:NeoCortex42: Smelly McUgly: I was trying to get into Star Trek because I really love sci-fi as a genre, and I found that, while I'm not a fan in general, I think TNG is much, much, MUCH better than the original series. Mostly because Patrick Stewart and Levar Burton.

End threadjack.

The Original Series is good campy fun, but nowhere near the quality of the later series in writing, acting, or production design. I think TNG is a great show overall (although it had a rough first couple of seasons), but DS9 holds up much better.

I also must note that I watched the pilot and then three of the episodes that people love the most. Stuff like City on the Edge of Forever might have been overhyped because I didn't think it was anything more than a good concept with some decent comedy bits in the middle of the story (Spock vulcan nerve-pinching the cop was the best thing in the whole episode).

Did Harlan Ellison write that episode, by the way, or am I thinking of another episode? Love Harlan Ellison, but I guess this was an example of him being a better short-story writer than TV episode writer if true. I know he wrote for Twilight Zone, too, but I can't remember if any of his episodes of TZ were top-tier.

City on the Edge of Forever is usually considered one of the better episodes, mostly because it actually attempted to tell a more dramatic story. The bulk of episodes were mostly excuses for Kirk to fight/bang random aliens. One real standout episode for suspense is Balance of Terror, which attempts to have a submarine battle in space.

NeoCortex42:Smelly McUgly: NeoCortex42: Smelly McUgly: I was trying to get into Star Trek because I really love sci-fi as a genre, and I found that, while I'm not a fan in general, I think TNG is much, much, MUCH better than the original series. Mostly because Patrick Stewart and Levar Burton.

End threadjack.

The Original Series is good campy fun, but nowhere near the quality of the later series in writing, acting, or production design. I think TNG is a great show overall (although it had a rough first couple of seasons), but DS9 holds up much better.

I also must note that I watched the pilot and then three of the episodes that people love the most. Stuff like City on the Edge of Forever might have been overhyped because I didn't think it was anything more than a good concept with some decent comedy bits in the middle of the story (Spock vulcan nerve-pinching the cop was the best thing in the whole episode).

Did Harlan Ellison write that episode, by the way, or am I thinking of another episode? Love Harlan Ellison, but I guess this was an example of him being a better short-story writer than TV episode writer if true. I know he wrote for Twilight Zone, too, but I can't remember if any of his episodes of TZ were top-tier.

City on the Edge of Forever is usually considered one of the better episodes, mostly because it actually attempted to tell a more dramatic story. The bulk of episodes were mostly excuses for Kirk to fight/bang random aliens. One real standout episode for suspense is Balance of Terror, which attempts to have a submarine battle in space.

Watch the movie "The Enemy Below," then that episode. Amazing parallels.

JohnAnnArbor:NeoCortex42: Smelly McUgly: NeoCortex42: Smelly McUgly: I was trying to get into Star Trek because I really love sci-fi as a genre, and I found that, while I'm not a fan in general, I think TNG is much, much, MUCH better than the original series. Mostly because Patrick Stewart and Levar Burton.

End threadjack.

The Original Series is good campy fun, but nowhere near the quality of the later series in writing, acting, or production design. I think TNG is a great show overall (although it had a rough first couple of seasons), but DS9 holds up much better.

I also must note that I watched the pilot and then three of the episodes that people love the most. Stuff like City on the Edge of Forever might have been overhyped because I didn't think it was anything more than a good concept with some decent comedy bits in the middle of the story (Spock vulcan nerve-pinching the cop was the best thing in the whole episode).

Did Harlan Ellison write that episode, by the way, or am I thinking of another episode? Love Harlan Ellison, but I guess this was an example of him being a better short-story writer than TV episode writer if true. I know he wrote for Twilight Zone, too, but I can't remember if any of his episodes of TZ were top-tier.

City on the Edge of Forever is usually considered one of the better episodes, mostly because it actually attempted to tell a more dramatic story. The bulk of episodes were mostly excuses for Kirk to fight/bang random aliens. One real standout episode for suspense is Balance of Terror, which attempts to have a submarine battle in space.

Watch the movie "The Enemy Below," then that episode. Amazing parallels.

I do enjoy how the Enterprise crew had to stay quiet during the battle. As if the Romulans might hear them across the vacuum of space.

My favorite episode was when they flew the Star Track to the planet of the....wookys I think they were called. They were these hairy ape like creatures who had their own Statue of Liberty on the beach.