Roger Stone claimed that video of the moon landing was “a hoax ... shot in a warehouse in” New Jersey. Stone is a longtime top Donald Trump
adviser and one of the Republican presidential nominee’s go-to sources for research.

Stone, who remains in regular contact with Trump (and whose talking points and theories Trump regularly adopts), is an ardent conspiracy theorist. For
example, he has claimed that the Clintons orchestrated the murder of four people this year; the Clintons killed John F. Kennedy Jr.; President George
H.W. Bush tried to kill President Reagan; President Lyndon Johnson killed President John F. Kennedy; and Sen. Ted Cruz’s father is connected to
Kennedy assassin Lee Harvey Oswald.

The point is that no random tweet on its own, without anything to support the tweet, is evidence -- no matter who tweets it.

Evidence is made of verifiable facts. It doesn't come from a person simply stating something. What this guy is saying about the NJ warehouse might
be true. Then again, it might be a totally made-up story. His words alone can't tell us, because his words provide nothing in the way of back-up
support.

And that would be true if he is a loon or if he is an upstanding citizen.

I've just popped in to post a link to this story, which while not
bearing directly on the Apollo debate, does give some idea of exactly how easy it is to deceive people about images from space.

TL;DR - some cowboy outfit rebroadcast years-old NASA footage, claimed it was a live broadcast, and 28 million viewers not only never suspected a
thing but convinced themselves that the astronauts in the film were interacting with them!

originally posted by: audubon
I've just popped in to post a link to this story, which while not
bearing directly on the Apollo debate, does give some idea of exactly how easy it is to deceive people about images from space.

TL;DR - some cowboy outfit rebroadcast years-old NASA footage, claimed it was a live broadcast, and 28 million viewers not only never suspected a
thing but convinced themselves that the astronauts in the film were interacting with them!

Well, while they were not the "as advertised" live videos from space, they were in fact videos from space.

I think the fact that the news story you linked to exists is testament to that.

I was having a meal on Wednsday lunchtime when a colleague showed me what he thought were live broadcasts. By Wednesday evening I was reading the
story that it wasn't a live broadcast by NASA but rebroadcasts of old NASA footage by a 3rd party.

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo
I think the fact that the news story you linked to exists is testament to that.

The stories I have linked to state that tens of millions of people watched it and believed it was the real thing, and that astronauts in the film were
interacting with viewers.

Obviously, it was rumbled by someone in the media, who bothered to check against NASA's EVA schedules, or we wouldn't be reading about it in the
first place.

I do understand what you mean.

However it doesn't work when the actual moon landing happened to be broadcasted to the entire world, and 10s of thousands to hundreds of thousands of
scientists, engineers...a lot of pretty darn smart and intelligent people were also watching the broadcast who were following this during the time it
was all being set up and etc.

There are also tens of millions of people in this world each and everyday who watch the bold and the beautiful who think what is portrayed is what
happens in real life also....

I very much doubt that 10million people called up, or that 10million people were interviewed who thought that that broadcast was actually happening
live and not in the past, a small percentage yes because if it was the entire 10million people I would begin to suspect we still do frontal lobotomys
on the regular... *looks around ATS*...however....

Because if back in 1969 I watched the moon landings on, say for example, a two-minute tape delay, and everything I saw on the Moon and all of the
conversations I heard between the astronauts and mission control were all delayed by two minutes, that would not make the achievement of landing on
the Moon an less real or cheapen it; it was still real astronauts who were really walking on the moon.

Granted, this facebook spacewalk video was much older than 2 minutes, and some people on facebook were fooled into thinking the astronauts were
interacting with them, but it's still real astronauts who are really in space.

If you're frustrated at people just getting the point then welcome to my world - there's a 108 pages of exactly that right here.

We get it OK - people were fooled. Now you need to try and absorb ours: people who know their stuff sussed it out straight away, just like the Apollo
live TV broadcasts would have been sussed out straight away by the myriad of technical experts and journalist who sat through live mission audio and
TV if there had been anything suspicious. Just like genuine experts would be able to see something wrong with any of the Apollo evidence. By 'genuine'
I mean people who actually know stuff, as opposed to amateur keyboard warriors with an axe to grind and fraudsters making money out of a story.

We get it OK - people were fooled. Now you need to try and absorb ours: people who know their stuff sussed it out straight away, just like the Apollo
live TV broadcasts would have been sussed out straight away by the myriad of technical experts and journalist who sat through live mission audio and
TV if there had been anything suspicious. Just like genuine experts would be able to see something wrong with any of the Apollo evidence. By 'genuine'
I mean people who actually know stuff, as opposed to amateur keyboard warriors with an axe to grind and fraudsters making money out of a story.

You can't fool all the people all the time.

And that's my point.

Yes, some people were fooled into thinking that they were interacting with real astronauts.

However, nobody was "fooled" by the video (i.e., nobody saw faked video from space and thought it was real video from space) -- and that's because the
video actually WAS real video from space. I think it would have been more difficult to fool the masses if fake video was used.

Sure, some would still be fooled by fake video, but I think fewer would be fooled than were fooled by the real video and fake interactions used to
create this fake facebook event. Real video = More people fooled; Fake video = Fewer people fooled.

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