DES MOINES, Iowa — Dave Jamison’s tenure as head of the Iowa Finance Authority has been a $4 million disaster.

Two women who Jamison sexually harassed as their boss at the Iowa Finance Authority — according to the state’s investigation — will get $4.15 million dollars in settlements. The Iowa Finance Authority will pay.

The State Appeal Board voted 2 to 1 to approve those settlements. The dissenting vote was State Auditor Rob Sand. He wanted to delay the vote so that the settlements would require Jamison to personally pay.

Sand joins the show to talk about what he thinks is a major unanswered question from this investigation.

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