I just won a BVG 9.5 Paul Molitor Rookie on EBay. Card was graded when BVG still used subgrades. Subs are 10, 10, 10, and 8.5. 8.5 is for surface. What do you think the odds are that a regrade under the new BVG grading system (without subgrades) would net a BVG 10 grade?

(11-15-2012 07:13 AM)pschaeff Wrote: I just won a BVG 9.5 Paul Molitor Rookie on EBay. Card was graded when BVG still used subgrades. Subs are 10, 10, 10, and 8.5. 8.5 is for surface. What do you think the odds are that a regrade under the new BVG grading system (without subgrades) would net a BVG 10 grade?

My guess is slim to none. Plus, I'd rather have a BVG 9.5 with those Amazing subgrades. JMO.

(11-15-2012 06:09 PM)pschaeff Wrote: I'd much rather have a BVG 10 than a BVG 9.5 with great subs.

To each his/her own. I still say that you have 0 chances of getting a sub bump.
Additionally, it's not a new system. It's just a new procedure. The new Grading system happened when vintage cards went from being BGS Graded to BVG Graded.

(11-16-2012 10:46 AM)coimbre 21 Wrote: First, congrats on a great card. Not worth a regrade with two 8.5 subs. BVG still looks at the all the same elements under the new system as they did under the old, they're simply not listed anymore.

It only has one 8.5 sub. Surface is 8.5. Corners, Centering, and Edges are all 10s.
I will probably wind up submitting to PSA. I think its highly likely to get a PSA 10 with those subgrades and PSA 10s simply sell for more than BVG 9.5s.

(11-16-2012 11:21 PM)pschaeff Wrote: It only has one 8.5 sub. Surface is 8.5. Corners, Centering, and Edges are all 10s.
I will probably wind up submitting to PSA. I think its highly likely to get a PSA 10 with those subgrades and PSA 10s simply sell for more than BVG 9.5s.

Ah, my mistake. If you have a 10x magnifying glass or loupe, I would look over that surface to see if there's an obvious reason for the 8.5 which would be noticeable under magnification to PSA.