I'll be getting one, along with Dead Rising 3 and Crimson Dragon. The Dead Rising series is good campy fun, with a dose of the creeps and always has some good Capcom fan service.

I love the Panzer Dragon series and lets face it, Crimson Dragon is basically a Panzer Dragoon game. If the suits at Microsoft had half a brain when it comes to the gaming community, they should have thrown some money at Sega and got them on board, even if it was in name only. Panzer Dragoon Crimson! Guaranteed system seller with the hardcore crowd. :P

Day One packaging coolness...
http://img.mundivideojuegos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/xbox-one-day-one-games.jpg
I assume it's slip covers, but it does make me want to get all three XB1 Day One exclusives.

Although I'm getting both I'm much more excited about the XboxOne as the line-up at the moment anyway is more interesting.

Havoc2049

11-16-2013, 11:40 AM

The more I see of it, Crimson Dragon keeps looking better and better.

http://www.twitch.tv/microsoftstudios/c/3130273

The Kinect features are kinda cool, such as when you are on your ship looking at your dragons, they will fly away when you walk away from your TV, but then when you come back, they will land back on your ship. I love little touches like that. :thumb-up:

Paper exe

11-16-2013, 11:51 AM

didn't pre order cause of the twisted policies. by the time I heard that they changed it it was already sold out. gonna pick up mine later

I still need got a lot of gen 5, 6 and 7 games that I need to play. a lot like over a thousand ><

I do have to say out of the three console Xbox one got the best line up, Sony 4 to be the worst. cannot say the same for the future PS4 seem to have the brighter future with full support from both west and east.

spider-prime

11-16-2013, 06:50 PM

I do admit the launch day for the Xbox is more exciting compared to the PS4. Unless you want COD and BF4 and AC4, PS4 is meh for launch lineup.

javi

11-22-2013, 06:49 PM

Me and Pikachief just got ours delivered.

Nem

11-22-2013, 06:57 PM

I do admit the launch day for the Xbox is more exciting compared to the PS4. Unless you want COD and BF4 and AC4, PS4 is meh for launch lineup.

I agree. But, it was the same with the X360 and that ended up with 3 exclusives a year of Fable, Halo and Gears.

This time i need them to prove that they can do more than 1-2 years of proper exclusive support.

Escaflowne2001

11-23-2013, 12:40 AM

Got mine yesterday, no problems so far. Been playing Ryse mostly at the moment. Been having a good time with that. Gonna try Crimson Dragon later.

Nem

11-23-2013, 08:38 AM

I just saw the review for Forza 5 and the game is littered with paywalls... i heard the same thing about Ryse.

Microsoft is not scoring any points with those. As if spending 500 on the console and 60 on the game wasnt enough...

Icarus4578

11-23-2013, 09:24 AM

As Badrats would say, "Optional. Choice." Nobody wants to pay for a game once and have it come included with everything. People want paywalls. Developers should lock out mandatory portions of their games as standard practice.

Joe Redifer

11-23-2013, 06:46 PM

Link to review?

Nem

11-23-2013, 10:01 PM

You can see the Forza 5 review on GT. They mention it:

http://www.gametrailers.com/reviews/efxmz3/forza-motorsport-5-review

Escaflowne2001

11-24-2013, 12:55 AM

Microsoft is not scoring any points with those. As if spending 500 on the console and 60 on the game wasnt enough...

Can't speak for Forza but in Ryse the only single player microtransactions I can see is you can buy gold with real money to upgrade quicker but completely optional.

Joe Redifer

11-24-2013, 02:09 AM

I dunno.. after watching that ForTza review, that DLC is just stupid. You pro-DLC guys are deluded or something. The best cares are LOCKED behind DLC paywalls. You can't even unlock them without paying for them and you can't even buy then individually. Ohhhh, but this is alll about choice this makes games beeeettterrrr!! Sure guys. Live in your fantasy world. Keep being apologists.

Gaming is seriously getting shittier and shittier all the time. The thing is, though, is that it doesn't HAVE to. This isn't needed.

Badrats Studio

11-24-2013, 02:27 AM

Gaming is seriously getting shittier and shittier all the time. The thing is, though, is that it doesn't HAVE to. This isn't needed.

This.

The industry has made this practice as standard, but the industry depends on our support. We (well not me, though... I'll never be agreed on unfinished game being sold at finished game's price tag) made this. We support this.

So it's up to gamers to stop / change this standard. Added value for finished game ? Okay. Go ahead. Added money to get finished game ? Nope. That's cheating.

Joe Redifer

11-24-2013, 03:22 AM

Yep. Too bad most people won't do anything about it. Hell, they keep voting the same people into congress. People aren't smart (except for me, of course).

Icarus4578

11-24-2013, 09:44 AM

If that's how they're going to act, why even bother releasing sequels? Just release one game and then keep updating new courses, cars and customization options behind a paywall.

Nem

11-24-2013, 09:54 AM

Isnt it obvious? Microsoft wants to extort as much money as they want from gamers.

I am glad im gonna be stearing clear of them for next-gen. To be completely honest i had already been annoyed by this kind of thing on Fable 3.

Icarus4578

11-24-2013, 11:49 AM

Ok, but how will the PS4 be any different? Doesn't GT5 also have cars behind a paywall? Both next-gen platforms will inevitably share much of the third-party softs and I can't see DLC on one platform while offering the same content for free on the other. It's become standard practice for the industry because people supported it with their wallets.

Nem

11-24-2013, 02:10 PM

Paywall i see as something i have to pay to acess a Vital part of the game, or for the game to be designed in such a way that you either bore yourself to tears or pay money (so its a vital element of the game aswell). In other words, when the payment of elements becomes intrusive to the gameplay.

I dislike them on the Sony side aswell but as i always said the company that always strives to achieve and bring new lows is Microsoft. Sony tends to copy them when its deemed acceptable, but i cant say i am pleased with them. I'm just less annoyed with them.

Also if i am correct the special edition cars on GT6 will be special versions of cars you already have in the game. So, in essence a different paint job. Aslong as its only a cosmetic option, i dont have gripes with it.

I dont think its an overeaction in the case of Forza 5 especially, and in the case of Ryse given the repetitiveness nature of the game.

On forza its completely intrusive, its right there in the game, and you cant acess the content you payed for and have to buy a pack of cars in the hopes of getting the one that will let you play that content. That is a Vital part of the game.

Escaflowne2001

11-25-2013, 04:03 AM

and in the case of Ryse given the repetitiveness nature of the game.

You talking about multiplayer? because there is nothing behind a paywell in the single player.

The Xbox One outsold the Xbox 360 two-to-one in the UK when you compare both console's launch periods. The Xbox 360 launched in the UK in 2005 - nearly eight years ago. Sales of the Xbox One, which launched on Friday 22nd November, amounted to 80 per cent of all home consoles sold this week.

10 of the 16 Xbox One launch titles debuted in the UK's top 40 chart, which counts high street physical sales only - exactly the same number of titles that appeared in the top 40 of the week of the Xbox 360's launch.

With a 328 per cent increase in sales, FIFA 14 returns to number one after a seven week absence. The lead format is the Xbox One version, which Chart-Track notes is the best-selling Xbox One game. But this is down to it being included in the Xbox One Day 1 edition, so it's a slightly misleading chart this week.

The PlayStation 4 version of FIFA 14 charts, despite the console not going on sale in the UK until this Friday, 29th November.

Call of Duty: Ghosts drops to second place after two weeks at the top. The PS4 and Xbox One versions both released ahead of their consoles.

Battlefield 4 is in number three, boosted by the release of the Xbox One version. Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag is similarly boosted into fourth place, with both the PS4 and Xbox One versions out this week.

Xbox One exclusive Forza 5 debuts at number five, but, like FIFA 14, benefited from being bundled in with some Xbox One consoles. Lego Marvel Super Heroes is sixth. Dead Rising 3 is in at seven. 3DS game The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds debuts at nine. The third biggest Xbox One exclusive is Ryse: Son of Rome, which enters the chart in tenth place.

Nah i mean the fact that you can unlock your skills in the game with real money. But Ryse isnt the biggest offender, Forza is.

Escaflowne2001

11-25-2013, 09:28 AM

Nah i mean the fact that you can unlock your skills in the game with real money. But Ryse isnt the biggest offender, Forza is.

That's no problem then since you can unlock them all in one playthrough without grinding, no problem. I'm on chapter 5/8 and 70% are already unlocked. Something like Tales of is a much worse offender in that department then Ryse. :)

With the power of these new consoles, imagine how kick-ass Shenmue 3 would be if done right.

Havoc2049

11-26-2013, 12:35 AM

For me anyways, Microsoft started this new form of "pay or play" micro transactions with Crimson Dragon: Side Story (CD:SS) on Windows Phone. EA and Tecmo have been doing this for a while now with some of their games. Not a big fan of this and I don't know anyone who is, so hopefully it will go away in the future. Microsoft has said they are monitoring this feature in their games to see how well it does, so whatever that means. If you're going to be a console owner this gen, it is something we are going to have to deal with. $peak out and don't buy it and bitch about it to the companies that engage in this practice, so hopefully it will go away.

In CD: SS, if you finished the single player game and all the unlocked missions and grinded to get A's and S's in all the missions, you could unlock about 70% of all the dragons powers. You could do this in like 8-10 hours or so, which is a pretty good value for a $1 game. After everything is completed though, gems become extremely hard to come by and I would probably have to grind for another 40+ hours or so and travel thousands of real world miles (GPS feature-another way to unlock gems), to earn enough gems to unlock all the dragon powers. So basically, unless I pay or play like crazy (for a mobile game anyways), there is no way I'm going to get the last couple of achievements for CD:SS. I enjoyed CD:SS and it is one of my favorite Windows Phone games, but I'm not going to grind that much to unlock everything.

I could see this happening in Ryse and Crimson Dragon if you want to fully max out your characters. One cool thing that Grounding has done already, is that they patched Crimson Dragon via the cloud right before launch day, so that it is easier to get gems, so hopefully it isn't that much of an issue.

Am I the only one who finds things lighting up so close to my screen a distraction? That camera would be ultra annoying and so would that thing over on the right as well as the router(s). I know some TVs also light up their logo. Not sure if Samsung does that but if I had a TV that did that, there would be plenty of electrical tape covering that lit up logo.

spider-prime

11-26-2013, 06:20 PM

tee hee, we seeeeee youuuuu havocccccccccc!

Pikachief

11-27-2013, 01:13 AM

I got my Day One Edition! Haven't got a launch console ever unless handhelds count (DS and GBA). This is the most fun I've had with a console within the first few months of getting it since I got my Gamecube though!

Been playing tons of Killer Instinct with some Forza 5 here and there. My cousin stayed the night at my house Day One and he apparently played BF4 till 6:30 am lol so he liked playing that. I think I've played like... 2 matches hahaha (got it for free)

I really dont care about resolution or fps (although KI is really, really smooth so maybe I will this gen) so the games all look and play great for me. Excited for Titan Fall and Project Spark in the Spring :D

Icarus4578

11-28-2013, 10:34 AM

Checked out the Xbone. Brief thoughts: The dashboard is a convoluted mess. Some games looked a bit better than current gen whereas others (*cough* Call of Duty) looked decidedly current-gen (or make that last-gen...). One thing I noticed while playing Killer Instinct, of all things, was that the D-pad on the controller is far more responsive than the milkbone 360 D-pad.

Overall it's pretty much what I expected it to be: a tech upgrade to the 360, a PC-in-a-box.

Escaflowne2001

11-28-2013, 11:17 AM

Ryse looks amazing far better then anything on the PS3/XB360. Call of Duty: Ghosts IS a last-gen game.

Icarus4578

11-28-2013, 12:51 PM

Ryse looks better but not by much. Then again, this is first-gen software. Forza definitely has a next-gen look to it though. Yeah, CoD Ghosts is current-gen, as was Crimson Dragon (ported from 360), but then the developers rushed their games to market in order to make the launch. No surprise there.

Joe Redifer

11-28-2013, 02:19 PM

I watched Battlefield 4 played on a PS4 (which has better graphics than Xbone) and there was a *slight* improvement over current gen. It certainly wasn't anywhere near as noticeable as the difference between, say, the NES and the Genesis. This generation seems like only a very modest step up. OMG TOTALLY WORTH $400 THOUGH!!!!

Escaflowne2001

11-28-2013, 06:04 PM

Honestly Ryse to me looks amazing better then anything I played previously. You couldn't tell the difference between the cutscenes and the gameplay they perfectly merged together. Beautiful. I can't wait to see what comes later.

Icarus4578

11-28-2013, 06:15 PM

A better way to think about it is to consider the new consoles to be around on par with current PC architecture. That gap will widen as time goes by, naturally.

Nevertheless, the whole 3D graphics wars thing is so overdone that it doesn't even matter anymore. It's all about having a good variety of quality softs.

I don't see the same problems you do with modern videogames though. I've been playing games since the Commodore 16 when I was about 6-7yrs old and I've never grown tried.

stroopwafel

11-29-2013, 09:17 AM

I don't see the same problems you do with modern videogames though. I've been playing games since the Commodore 16 when I was about 6-7yrs old and I've never grown tried.

Me neither! And I've also been playing games since the Commodore days. In fact the PS3 is probably the console I logged most hours on since it has many of the games I could only dream about as a child. With PS4 I'll buy the Watch Dogs bundle in march when the really good games start coming out. Also gives me some time to clear out my PS3 backlog before moving on the next-gen. :p

Icarus4578

11-29-2013, 09:32 AM

Yes completely worth it. I've never been disappointed with a console purchase though.

That's because you never purchased the Phillips CDi, FM Towns Marty, 3DO or Jaguar. At least I hope not.

I don't see the same problems you do with modern videogames though. I've been playing games since the Commodore 16 when I was about 6-7yrs old and I've never grown tried.

I've been playing since Colecovision, Vectrex, Atari and Commodore as well. Heck, I played games stored on a cassette. (Talk about long loading time...) Gripes with modern gaming aside, I do enjoy some modern games. That said, let's not tailspin this thread into a debate about the pros and cons of modern gaming.

Escaflowne2001

11-29-2013, 10:07 AM

That's because you never purchased the Phillips CDi, FM Towns Marty, 3DO or Jaguar. At least I hope not.

Correct!

Icarus4578

11-29-2013, 11:29 AM

You just don't know the quality you missed out on. I know because at the time GameFan Magazine was hyping the Jaguar. Although some of the former editors claim that they spiked Dave Halverson's coffee with LSD, attributing that to the cause for his hilarious review for Battlemorph ("Atari is back, come pet the cat."), all of the other editors were right beside him in the Viewpoint section singing its praises.

If GameFan says it's good then who am I to argue? It must be good.

Escaflowne2001

11-29-2013, 05:07 PM

I nearly a Jaguar a few years back when they re-released it complete with a load of games pre-installed. In the end I didn't though.

Icarus4578

11-30-2013, 09:24 AM

Wise decision.

Badrats Studio

12-01-2013, 03:52 AM

You just don't know the quality you missed out on. I know because at the time GameFan Magazine was hyping the Jaguar. Although some of the former editors claim that they spiked Dave Halverson's coffee with LSD, attributing that to the cause for his hilarious review for Battlemorph ("Atari is back, come pet the cat."), all of the other editors were right beside him in the Viewpoint section singing its praises.

If GameFan says it's good then who am I to argue? It must be good.

They said "Powerslave" was super awesome game. I bought it, played it, and end up puked :haha:

But they were awesome magazine. Nick Roxx was geeky dope. And I bought 3DO for SSF II : Grand Master Challenge at first. Worth the money.

Icarus4578

12-01-2013, 09:36 AM

Sega, Treasure, Scavenger, Shiny Entertainment, Core, and a few others' games were hyped extensively. Halverson's Sega bias was particularly evident during the first several years (volumes) of GF. During their second volume Genesis software was awarded game of the month eight or nine times, SNES won just once or twice and Jaguar + 3DO taking the remaining couple. Outside of the year Yoshi's Island won game of the year, every previous year went to Sega. Were Earthworm Jim, Gunstar Heroes, Sonic CD and Silpheed really the pinnacle of the Genesis' lifecycle, let alone 16-bit? I certainly don't think so.

Here, if you're interested, is an interesting read about the blue shadow controversy surrounding their reviews of Street Fighter Alpha ~ http://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/blueshadows.html

Despite their numerous flaws, I still consider GF's first few volumes, along with EGM's early years, to be the best video game publications ever released in the US. Next Generation was good in a tech/PC geek sort of way, as was Computer & Video Games, but the former's 3D bias became overbearing. Suddenly it was as if 2D games were inherently flawed when compared to such forgettable gems as Virtua Fighter.

GamePro and Game Informer... let's not go there.

Joe Redifer

12-01-2013, 04:37 PM

Nick Rox is a douchenugget. I have a friend who traded game and anime music CDs with him. Well, Nick was always on the receiving end, actually. Not much of a giver. He'd harass my friend when he was running a bit behind in sending him a package and would flip his shit if he said something was an OST when it was instead an OSV. FLIP. HIS. SHIT.

Havoc2049

12-02-2013, 06:33 AM

You just don't know the quality you missed out on. I know because at the time GameFan Magazine was hyping the Jaguar. Although some of the former editors claim that they spiked Dave Halverson's coffee with LSD, attributing that to the cause for his hilarious review for Battlemorph ("Atari is back, come pet the cat."), all of the other editors were right beside him in the Viewpoint section singing its praises.

If GameFan says it's good then who am I to argue? It must be good.

Correct!

I nearly a Jaguar a few years back when they re-released it complete with a load of games pre-installed. In the end I didn't though.

Wise decision.

GameFan never reviewed Battlemorph for the Jaguar CD. Jaguar games were featured on two GameFan covers, Cybermorph and Tempest 2000. In 1993, Cybermorph was a pretty epic open world, not on rails, 3D polygon shooter, with many worlds to explore and could not have been done on the SNES or Genesis, due to their technical limitations. So in that respect, the game was pretty unique and cool for the time.

The Jaguar has some fun and unique exclusive games, along with some enhanced ports of classic games from the 16-bit era as well, so it's not that bad. I've owned a Jaguar since December of 1993 and have had fun with it and still do to this day. People still continue to release unreleased commercial games and develop new games for the Jag to this day.

The current day Atari never re-released or planned to re-release the Jaguar as a retro console with a bunch of pre-installed games. They have only done that with the Atari 2600/7800, with the Atari Flashback consoles.

Knowing is half the battle! :thumb-up:

Escaflowne2001

12-02-2013, 07:59 AM

The current day Atari never re-released or planned to re-release the Jaguar as a retro console with a bunch of pre-installed games. They have only done that with the Atari 2600/7800, with the Atari Flashback consoles.

Your right! my bad. The Jaguar was re-released in the UK in 2001 though and that is what I likely saw. :)

Icarus4578

12-02-2013, 09:53 AM

Joe, that's a funny story. Didn't you also correspond with Nick? I recall something about him wanting a soundtrack from your collection.

Gunstar Heroes is, pretty much Genesis processor can handle more action on screen then Super Famicom, while Super Famicom has the quantity, imo it's always bogged down by it's lousy processor. The others ones mentioned not so much.

Icarus4578

12-03-2013, 01:19 PM

Gunstar was among the best action games available for Genesis but not the very best IMO. They gave the import Sonic CD perfect 100s across the board and both Earthworm Jim and Silpheed almost the same. Then again, they're entitled to their opinions. My take: Silpheed is a pathetic joke, Sonic CD is good but nowhere near perfect (even with the original soundtrack) and EWJ is a solid action/platformer. I'd take Strider, Lightening Force, Space Harrier and the original Sonic over the aforementioned titles any day.

spider-prime

12-05-2013, 08:12 AM

http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20131204

Scroll down from the comic to see the youtube video lol

Icarus4578

12-05-2013, 08:58 AM

With 1.7 seconds in the 4th quarter and it's all down to the buzzer-beater shot. As soon as you inbound the ball, someone curses and you get called for the technical....

I bought a Day One Xbox One. Its nice, but I don't like the OS. I feel like it takes five extra steps to find what you are looking for compared to the PS4. Also, I still feel strongly that the problem with the Xbox One is that MS built it around it being a media center and not a gaming center which led them to add the functions they did; whereas, Sony created the PS4 for gaming and added function around that. Probably why I prefer the PS4, but that's just my opinion (still enjoyed Ryse and felt the critics were not fair). I was particularly pissed that I had to start with a new Gamertag because I created the account for the 360 when the system first came out and the e-mail I used I no longer have nor remember the password and MS refused to let me access it to change the password because they didn't believe that it was me despite the information I provided. Whatever....

Drunken Savior

12-06-2013, 01:20 AM

I was particularly pissed that I had to start with a new Gamertag because I created the account for the 360 when the system first came out and the e-mail I used I no longer have nor remember the password and MS refused to let me access it to change the password because they didn't believe that it was me despite the information I provided.

That's kinda standard practice on the internet, in general.

spider-prime

12-06-2013, 04:07 AM

I had my ebay account hacked before and someone was selling boats and a house over my account.

eBay asked me some questions that only I would know type things, like which emails have I used over the course of my account, I answered those and they gave me back my account.

But now, Blizzard, they are a bitch to get your account back, they ask for a government issued ID or number for some reason lol I would never give them something like that.

progmetal

12-06-2013, 03:36 PM

How to brick your xbone:

http://i.imgur.com/JbCoqa6.jpg

Icarus4578

12-07-2013, 09:28 AM

The Xbone has totally different internal hardware than an X360 (Power PC vs x86-64).

progmetal

12-07-2013, 12:54 PM

I know. But it's strange that Microsoft left this door open to get into dev settings and brick your console.

Escaflowne2001

12-07-2013, 12:59 PM

A normal gamer would never find it though or know what to do. I guess is what there thinking.

progmetal

12-07-2013, 01:08 PM

Yeah, must be leaked by someone.

This "trick" btw, causes the xbone to boot again and again in a loop.

Icarus4578

12-08-2013, 09:37 AM

Funny (or sad) thing is someone probably tried this and broke their console. $500 down the drain.

Escaflowne2001

12-08-2013, 10:14 AM

Aye! I'm sure there's been a few people heh...

Dj Jimmi Zero

12-08-2013, 05:51 PM

It's the developers mode, but if Microsoft hasn't certified you as a game developer, your console might get stuck in a boot loop.

Badrats Studio

12-11-2013, 10:15 AM

I wonder if that kind of brick is get covered by warranty .... Probably will cause an uproar if not.