'''Tatyar''' was the original name of the second Clan of the Elves, before the [[Great March]]. The Clan-name, meaning 'Seconds' (q. cardinal ''(t)atya'' 'second') was derived from the name of the father of the Clan, [[Tata]] 'Two'. Tata was the second Elf-father tho awake at [[Cuiviénen]].

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'''Tatyar''' ([[Quenya|Q]], pron. {{IPA|[ˈtacar]}}) was the original name of the second Clan of the Elves, before the [[Great March]]. The Clan-name, meaning 'Seconds' (q. cardinal ''(t)atya'' 'second') was derived from the name of the father of the Clan, [[Tata]] 'Two', the second [[Elf-fathers|Elf-father]] to awake at [[Cuiviénen]].

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In Cuiviénen they were the 56/144 of the total population. Half of them followed [[Finwë]] and became the [[Noldor]] and half of them [[Avari|stayed back]]. The other original clans were [[Minyar]] 'Firsts', and [[Nelyar]] 'Thirds' according to the Elf-fathers [[Imin]] 'One' and [[Enel]] 'Three'.

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The other original clans in Cuiviénen were the [[Minyar]] 'Firsts', and [[Nelyar]] 'Thirds' according to the Elf-fathers [[Imin]] 'One' and [[Enel]] 'Three'. The Tatyar were the 56/144 of the total population. Half of them followed [[Finwë]] in the March and became the [[Noldor]] and half of them [[Avari|stayed back]] with [[Morwë]].

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Some of the Avari who were of the Tatyar eventually reached [[Beleriand]] and acknowledged their kinship with the [[Noldor]], but were unfriendly, jealous of their more exalted kin, and considered them arrogant.<ref>{{WJ|Quendi}}, pp. 380-1</ref>

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* ''[[The History of Middle-earth]]'', ''[[The War of the Jewels]]'', pg. 380-381

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Tatyar (Q, pron. [ˈtacar]) was the original name of the second Clan of the Elves, before the Great March. The Clan-name, meaning 'Seconds' (q. cardinal (t)atya 'second') was derived from the name of the father of the Clan, Tata 'Two', the second Elf-father to awake at Cuiviénen.

The other original clans in Cuiviénen were the Minyar 'Firsts', and Nelyar 'Thirds' according to the Elf-fathers Imin 'One' and Enel 'Three'. The Tatyar were the 56/144 of the total population. Half of them followed Finwë in the March and became the Noldor and half of them stayed back with Morwë.

Some of the Avari who were of the Tatyar eventually reached Beleriand and acknowledged their kinship with the Noldor, but were unfriendly, jealous of their more exalted kin, and considered them arrogant.[1]