Friday, May 01, 2015

Not the Roswell Slides

As
we get closer to the reveal of the Not Roswell Slides, Gilles Fernandez posted
a note on the last my posting which wasn’t relevant to the topic but that was
interesting. Apparently he, and his team of investigators who have been working
quietly behind the scenes, have made one discovery that is of importance. Fernandez
posted one of the slides to his blog (which is normally written in French but
this was in English) that came from the stash of Hilda Blair Ray and showed a
scene France. All of this can be seen at:

Although
they just show the picture, they have identified the cars on the street and
they weren’t produced until the mid-to-late 1950s. That would seem to suggest
that slide was not taken in the late 1940s but maybe as much as ten years
later.

Fernandez
wrote, “Yes, As [sic] pointed out in our previous article devoted to the
Roswell Slides, a close examination by members of our team revealed that French
cars depicted in this slide were produced from 1958 [though it seems one was
available in 1956]. So, if this slide had the mount expected from a 1941 to 1949
scene, it would prove that the type of mount with only ‘Kodachrome’ printed two
times is NOT a forensic evidence to establish that what is depicted is from the
1941 – 1949 period expected for this type of mount.”

This,
they say, shows that the cardboard slide sleeve that has been claimed to have
been used only from 1941 to 1949 was actually used much longer.

Is
this discovery of overwhelming importance?

Well,
not so much. It does expand the time frame for the use of that specific slide
sleeve so it is not as limited as had been suggested.

But
there is one problem. They reproduce the scene but they don’t reproduce the
slide sleeve along with it. It could be argued that while this is one of Hilda
Ray’s slide, the sleeve doesn’t match, precisely those from 1941 to 1949. It
would seem that this is an oversight. I have quickly scanned the blog but haven’t
found the picture printed with the slide sleeve visible to compare it with
those from 1941 to 1949.

We
are now very close to the big reveal and many of our questions should be
answered then. We all have provided those with the Not Roswell Slides all with
plenty of notice of what we would like to see in the way of proof. Once the
show has been performed, we can then begin a complete analysis of the data. Providing
all the promised information is released.

21 comments:

"They" have a box from a family. OK! Ask "them" to provide you/me/us between the 400 a slide where we will see the Ray in family, for a birthday, a mariage, a scene where we can see the "Ray family in a slide" as expected from a family box of slides.

There are slides from the 50's in the collection. They have a different border. I say in the trailer in fact that the slides date, from what we can tell, from the mid-40s to the mid-50s. They don't all have identical borders.

I thought it was an interesting blog post from Gilles that raised some valid points. About the lack of a slide jacket for the photo of the cars, I interpreted that to be Gilles' point: more info could be revealed that would help clarify the circumstances.

Same could be said for the images of the Rays in which they seem to appear much older than they would have been in the late 1940's. So, again, I interpreted Gilles' point to be that researchers sincerely desiring to systematically clarify details have opportunities to do so. If no better job is done May 5 than has been done to date, the obfuscation and unsupported fantastic claims should speak for themselves.

If that's your real name (sorry, just a little humor, we all know who SlideBox is)...

That is why I put the caveat in the post about them not showing the slide sleeve with the picture of Paris. Without the sleeve to help date the photograph, it is just an interesting picture filled with ugly cars.

PS: Oooh and no, I had NO such materials, rumors, claims when I realized my own blog article, even if - excepted - I noticed the more or less exact anniversary of the first public appaerance of the "Alien Autopsy" film.For a timeline, I recommand this excellent ressource BTW: http://www.ufo.it/testi/timeline.htm

The new issue of Tim Printy's SUNlite provides an excellent analysis of the Roswell Slides being presented at BeWitness. It also asks some very good questions about the other slides in the Ray collection.

Technically speaking,without a slide sleeve to prove that the "cars" slide and the "corpse/mummy/dummy" slide were of the same batch...Fernandez investigation means, errrrr, absolutely nothing.Minutiae of the minutiae.

@ Tim... Except the fact that only the slides amongst the 400 that share the very same era of slide sleeve are relevant.

Same as most people here, I'd agree these slides will amount to a big fat nothing as far as relevance to the Roswell incident is concerned. (Unless the "dream team" have something up their sleeve that would leave Moses gobsmacked!)

I expect that thinking about the Question/Answer segment at the end of the 5/5/15 presentation has given Tom, Don and the boys sleepless nights for weeks. The proverbial "Like shooting fish in a barrel" springs to mind.

They'd better eat their porridge that morning because I think it's going to be a long day for them.

What's so dreaded about the fifth of May, Paul? If you're not interested in the issue and have already made your mind up about the slides, why even worry about it? Why show your face on the net and post uneducated, misinformed hate? I don't get that. At all.

There is almost zero forensic value to the slide mount(the proper name for the sleeve people keep talking about) The mount is so easy to change that a child could do it. That is if they could be trusted with a sharp blade and an iron. Even if this team kept the original mounts there would have to be a test to determine if they were sealed in 1947 or around then.

It's equally useless to talk about the other slides in the collection. Many people have slides taken at different times in their shoe boxes or wherever they store them.

A while back P. Kimball said he was going to post a thorough review of the Cinco de Mayo slides on Quatro de Mayo. I just tried to access his blog and it now requires invited permission. Just curious if anyone with an invite can see if he has made good on his promise.

Many people have been critical of the team for not releasing the slides on the internet.There could be another reason beyond taking the sting out of the presentation tonight. It's not a giant leap to assume that they intend to monetize these slides to the maximum. If they release the slides without a clear claim to the copyright they would lose control of the money that they could make beyond the presentation. This is pure speculation on my part based on US copyright law. Since it hasn't been clearly established exactly who the photographer was then the ownership of the copyright remains in doubt.Briefly for those who may not understand what copyright is. It gives the owner of the copyright the right to control usage of the images with some exceptions. Fair use being the main one.Again speculation but if they copyright the presentation, specifically the internet part. They may be able to claim the images are under their control as part of the presentation. This is similar to the Blue Book files and Fold3. Fold3 issued a take down notice to the Black Vault site based on their claim that the digitizing of the files made them owner of the copyright.