You are talking as if the tory government is worried about the general public and not how to use brexit as a platform for making lots of money for a priviledged few.

Stop thinking that the tories want the best for the country as a whole and judge them on actions and behaviour instead.

For instance, selling off the NHS to private tax avoiding companies or joking about clearing up dead bodies in order to be able to set up a luxury beach resort.

Just look around, try and find a selection of conservative policies that are aimed at helping the most amount of people. That's their job, but they don't do it, they work for themselves and the people that get them into power. They might say something about fighting them on the beaches, but what has actually happened...

Who put the Con in Conservative - the pure brass neck and pompous kleptomania of these c***s knows no bounds and their faux f***ing patriotism when everyone knows that they totally despise the mass of people in the country Learnt the Joey G lesson very well, if you're gonna tell lies, tell whoppers

Just got round to reading the second half of this article and it's all about trade quotas and how the EU's will be split once we leave. Turns out there's no simply answer and we are going to have to negotiate with the 100+ members of the WTO to determine what our relationship with them is going to be. So just like I have been telling people who spout the WTO rules balls, we have no agreements in place with a single member of the WTO, we are right back at square one and they can all see that we are desperate and are going to fleece us.

Just got round to reading the second half of this article and it's all about trade quotas and how the EU's will be split once we leave. Turns out there's no simply answer and we are going to have to negotiate with the 100+ members of the WTO to determine what our relationship with them is going to be. So just like I have been telling people who spout the WTO rules balls, we have no agreements in place with a single member of the WTO, we are right back at square one and they can all see that we are desperate and are going to fleece us.

Its alright though, we can send out few gunboats full of innovative jam. Or something.

Yep, that's all our international "friends" lining up to give us a big slap.

So let's summarise shall we.

£350m a week for the NHS - nope
The EU are desperate to do a quick deal with us - nope
The rest of the world is queuing up to trade with us - nope

What exactly are the benefits of leaving again?

We have no "friends" ....every country, whether they are in the eu or not are out for their own best interests.....none more so than the one who benefits most from being the leader of the EU, ...germany.....who incidentally will have to come up with the shortfall in funding without our huge contributions.

The nhs might not get the 350 a week but undoubtedly there will be more money available once we stop paying extortion to Brussels....and its up to us to pressure our national twats in Westminster to make sure the nhs get a decent whack.

Except some on here think we should pay a ransom to leave .

If the EU countries think they can ignore a 70 million populace market, then they are more stupid than they have been given credit for....as much in their interest to sort out a trade deal as ours.

What to gain ? ....freedom, freedom from the ever encroaching grip of no good politicians.....freedom is always taken away ...has to be fought for to get it back.....just look at Catalonia.

You keep thinking the reasons are anything to do with the general public. It's so rich people can get richer. Stop thinking that any conservative government is working for you

You seem to be missing the whole "sarcastic" angle of my posts. I do not and have never believed any of the things that were promised to us by the brexit gang. I am fully aware that most leave voters have been manipulated by the wealthy elite in this country, many of whom own the newspapers that were used to deliver the false propaganda and stood to lose a lot of money when the EU brought in new laws on tax dodging. I just like to poke the stupid twats at every available opportunity because they must never, ever be allowed to forget what a f**king stupid thing they have done.

Stupid twat poked

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We have no "friends" ....every country, whether they are in the eu or not are out for their own best interests.....none more so than the one who benefits most from being the leader of the EU, ...germany.....who incidentally will have to come up with the shortfall in funding without our huge contributions.

The nhs might not get the 350 a week but undoubtedly there will be more money available once we stop paying extortion to Brussels....and its up to us to pressure our national twats in Westminster to make sure the nhs get a decent whack.

Undoubtedly. Really? By the time we have replaced all the funding we get from the EU there isn't really a lot left, and if the treasury's income takes a battering because of recession, or a run on the pound once we leave then there will likely be less money.

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Except some on here think we should pay a ransom to leave .

We have to pay what we owe. If we don't then who the f**k is going to deal with us in the future.

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If the EU countries think they can ignore a 70 million populace market, then they are more stupid than they have been given credit for....as much in their interest to sort out a trade deal as ours.

So you people keep saying, not seeing much evidence that the EU feel the same way.

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What to gain ? ....freedom, freedom from the ever encroaching grip of no good politicians.....freedom is always taken away ...has to be fought for to get it back.....just look at Catalonia.

Freedom

It won't make one single positive difference to the lives of the majority of the population. We won't be free but rather will end up at the whim of corporate America rather than a democratic (and it is democratic despite your claims) institution.

Presumably you were in favour of Scotland taking back control and gaining its freedom from 300 years of oppression by a remote and corrupt government. Where do you think they would be now if they were on their own?