Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Stephen Harper has drawn few accolades and many brickbats for his government’s performance over the past 18 months, and rightly so. But on the Ukraine file, since Russia’s illegal, duplicitous and reckless invasion of Crimea, the Prime Minister has been at his best. Both he and Foreign Minister John Baird deserve credit for the clear, principled and authoritative position they have taken, up to and including championing Russia’s indefinite suspension from the G8, now again the G7.

Some will say all Harper’s moves thus far have been obvious: What else could he have said? What else could he have done? But that would be neither fair, nor true.

Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

It's not like he's at the airport in Moscow shootin his mouth off is it?

B00Mer

Republican

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#3

Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Mar 25th, 2014

The King Has NO Cloths..

petros

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#4

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Mar 25th, 2014

Harper is doing a half decent job on this as is the entire House.

lone wolf

Free Thinker

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#5

Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Mar 25th, 2014

After an appropriate time of pissoffedness, things will go back to same ol' same ol'

WLDB

No Party Affiliation

+3

#6

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Mar 25th, 2014

He's doing as well as a person can in his position on this topic, not that Putin cares.

Mak54291

No Party Affiliation

#7

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Mar 25th, 2014

Nice memorial. I need to be pious and not do that.

damngrumpy

No Party Affiliation

+3

#8

Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Mar 25th, 2014

Unfortunately this is little more than a photo op for next years election.
Nothing he can do except make a few statements. I will say at least
he doing something to highlight the illegal hijacking of the democratic
process in a country that has seen a lot of misery throughout its long
history.
What has to happen is the world needs to take up the slack and supply
Europe with energy it needs and we know that won't happen.

B00Mer

Republican

+1 / -1

#9

Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Mar 25th, 2014

Seriously the people of Crimea voted to join Russia, what is more democratic than that..

Would be the same if the people of Quebec actually had the balls to split from Canada in a referendum.

There would be soldiers in the streets of Quebec and extra police to stop violence.

No news, Putin owns Obama once more. Move along, move along.. Crimea is now a Russian state. Deal with it..

Mak54291

No Party Affiliation

+1

#10

Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Mar 25th, 2014

Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer

Seriously the people of Crimea voted to join Russia, what is more democratic than that..

Would be the same if the people of Quebec actually had the balls to split from Canada in a referendum.

There would be soldiers in the streets of Quebec and extra police to stop violence.

No news, Putin owns Obama once more. Move along, move along.. Crimea is now a Russian state. Deal with it..

Why they need an army if they have vast majority?

Retired_Can_Soldier

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#11

Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Mar 25th, 2014

Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpy

Unfortunately this is little more than a photo op for next years election.
Nothing he can do except make a few statements. I will say at least
he doing something to highlight the illegal hijacking of the democratic
process in a country that has seen a lot of misery throughout its long
history.
What has to happen is the world needs to take up the slack and supply
Europe with energy it needs and we know that won't happen.

Last I checked, the Russians were kicked out of the G-8, that's pretty significant.

B00Mer

Republican

#12

Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Mar 26th, 2014

Quote: Originally Posted by Mak54291

Why they need an army if they have vast majority?

Because there will always be a few of the minority that want to cause shyte..

Colpy

Conservative

#13

Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Mar 26th, 2014

Quote: Originally Posted by petros

Harper is doing a half decent job on this as is the entire House.

When sanctioned by the Russians, Irwin Cotler said he considered it an honour...

I like Mr. Cotler.

I do not understand why he is a Liberal.

mentalfloss

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#14

Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Mar 26th, 2014

Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy

When sanctioned by the Russians, Irwin Cotler said he considered it an honour...

I like Mr. Cotler.

I do not understand why he is a Liberal.

Mulcair supported Harper on this issue.

I don't understand why he's NDP.

B00Mer

Republican

+1

#15

Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Mar 26th, 2014

Maybe, just maybe the Ukraine should have made Crimea a Nation within a Nation??? Supported it's citizens, give them free University and Health Care, allow them to only speak Russian and put up with their crying on how much better they would be not part of the Ukraine??

I think the Ukraine got lucky, they had a quick divorce... Canada is still stuck paying alimony.

Crimea vs. Quebec: The Legal Right to a Referendum on Self-Determination | Global Research(external - login to view)

Quote:

There has been a great hue and cry by the USA, Ukraine and other countries about the supposed illegality of the proposed referendum by Crimea on its future political status. They indignantly proclaim that this is a violation of international law.Amazingly, have Obama and the leaders of these other countries never heard of the situation in Canada with regard to Quebec? Quebec, as a province of Canada, has held two referenda (1980 and 1995) on the matter of independence from Canada . . . and a third referendum may be in the works in the near future.Quebec never had to get permission from Canada’s federal government to hold a referendum, and no one ever questioned the legality of Quebec’s referendum.Crimea is an autonomous region within Ukraine and seems to have the same rights as a Canadian province. So if it is perfectly legal for a province such as Quebec to hold a referendum on independence, why would it not be legal for Crimea to do the same? At no time did the USA object to Quebec holding a referendum on independence, so why the big brouhaha over Crimea? Moreover, what business would it be for the USA to have such objections – for Quebec or Crimea?The UN charter gives people the right to self-determination and by virtue of that right they are free to determine their political status. Quebec in Canada has exercised that right, and there should be no reason why Crimea could not do the same.

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Colpy

Conservative

+3 / -1

#16

Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Mar 26th, 2014

Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss

Mulcair supported Harper on this issue.

I don't understand why he's NDP.

That would be because he is financially irresponsible, anti-American, obsessed with idiotic levels of gun control, and a sucker for the separatists.

darkbeaver

Republican

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Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Mar 26th, 2014

As the roll nears the cardboard spool the citizens begin to understand each sheet is the same as the last, soft, absorbent, recycled and covered in sh it. The western model of environmentally banking friendly politicians .

petros

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Mar 26th, 2014

Quote:

Maybe, just maybe the Ukraine should have made Crimea a Nation within a Nation???

Maybe just maybe it already was.

darkbeaver

Republican

+2

#19

Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Mar 26th, 2014

Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf

After an appropriate time of pissoffedness, things will go back to same ol' same ol'

You got a bet there LW.

B00Mer

Republican

#20

Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Mar 26th, 2014

Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy

That would be because he is financially irresponsible, anti-American, obsessed with idiotic levels of gun control, and a sucker for the separatists.

Tecumsehsbones

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#21

Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Mar 26th, 2014

Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy

That would be because he is financially irresponsible, anti-American, obsessed with idiotic levels of gun control, and a sucker for the separatists.

Well, heck, Colpy, you're at least two out of four on that list yourself (don't know about your finances).

Spade

Free Thinker

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Mar 26th, 2014

Those of us who are sincere advocates for democracy will support referenda throughout the eastern Ukraine to guarantee self determination for all including Russian speakers.

Nuggler

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#23

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Mar 26th, 2014

HEAR HERE HE'RE.....whatever

Spade

Free Thinker

+3

#24

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Mar 26th, 2014

Hypothetical #1
If Quebec ever separated (May the gods forbid) and metro Montreal or the Ungava wished to retain ties with Canada, the "free" world would cry "Territorial integrity or sanctions, Canada!"

Nuggler

+1

#25

Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Mar 26th, 2014

Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer

Seriously the people of Crimea voted to join Russia, what is more democratic than that..

Would be the same if the people of Quebec actually had the balls to split from Canada in a referendum.

There would be soldiers in the streets of Quebec and extra police to stop violence.

No news, Putin owns Obama once more. Move along, move along.. Crimea is now a Russian state. Deal with it..

The soldiers and police would be there to put up the fence containing the PQ idiots. Making sure they did not contaminate the snow white restovus..............and making sure everyone who wanted out was able to get.

Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver

It's not like he's at the airport in Moscow shootin his mouth off is it?

Hardly DB. In that photo he looks constipated, or, wants to make sure people notice HIS flowers. Helluva job, Helmet.

BornRuff

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Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Mar 26th, 2014

Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer

Seriously the people of Crimea voted to join Russia, what is more democratic than that..

Would be the same if the people of Quebec actually had the balls to split from Canada in a referendum.

There would be soldiers in the streets of Quebec and extra police to stop violence.

No news, Putin owns Obama once more. Move along, move along.. Crimea is now a Russian state. Deal with it..

They called a referendum with like a week's notice and while being occupied by Russia. This is not how you hold a legitimate referendum.

Further, countries have the right to determine the conditions for a part of their country succeeding. There have to be rules by which something like this takes place, and the principal source for those rules is the constitution of that country.

mentalfloss

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Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Mar 26th, 2014

Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy

That would be because he is financially irresponsible, anti-American, obsessed with idiotic levels of gun control, and a sucker for the separatists.

So a Liberal does one thing like a Conservative and therefore he should be a Con. An NDP guy does the same thing but doesn't qualify.

You make no sense.

Never mind the fact that you're the 'I hate liberals' guy on this forum.

Spade

Free Thinker

+1

#28

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Mar 26th, 2014

The Crown rests

BornRuff

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Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Mar 26th, 2014

Quote: Originally Posted by Locutus

Stephen Harper has drawn few accolades and many brickbats for his government’s performance over the past 18 months, and rightly so. But on the Ukraine file, since Russia’s illegal, duplicitous and reckless invasion of Crimea, the Prime Minister has been at his best. Both he and Foreign Minister John Baird deserve credit for the clear, principled and authoritative position they have taken, up to and including championing Russia’s indefinite suspension from the G8, now again the G7.

Some will say all Harper’s moves thus far have been obvious: What else could he have said? What else could he have done? But that would be neither fair, nor true.

It is easy to be "principled" when you have no skin in the game.

darkbeaver

Republican

+1

#30

Re: Harper is at his best standing up to Moscow

Mar 26th, 2014

Harper stands up by sucking up. Congratulations NWO your disease has taken hold in the ruined west.