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My first post here, have found this a great source of information which has helped enormously in my quest to collect coins, but can no longer resist the temptation to post. I watched this auction live, and yes it did drop out a fair few times. I could not notice one particular lot - 194, which was worth only £8 according to the 2020 coin yearbook, but someone paid £600 for it. I admit I am, as I am new to coin collecting, scratching my head thinking 'why'?. I do go by the book, so maybe that is my mistake 😕

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My first post here, have found this a great source of information which has helped enormously in my quest to collect coins, but can no longer resist the temptation to post. I watched this auction live, and yes it did drop out a fair few times. I could not notice one particular lot - 194, which was worth only £8 according to the 2020 coin yearbook, but someone paid £600 for it. I admit I am, as I am new to coin collecting, scratching my head thinking 'why'?. I do go by the book, so maybe that is my mistake 😕

If you look at the picture and compare the hair with a normal 1865 you will notice its different .

These are patterns with a different design which are scarce / rare with low mintages and command a premium.

My first post here, have found this a great source of information which has helped enormously in my quest to collect coins, but can no longer resist the temptation to post. I watched this auction live, and yes it did drop out a fair few times. I could not notice one particular lot - 194, which was worth only £8 according to the 2020 coin yearbook, but someone paid £600 for it. I admit I am, as I am new to coin collecting, scratching my head thinking 'why'?. I do go by the book, so maybe that is my mistake 😕

That's because it's no ordinary 1865 penny, but what's called a "pattern penny". Meaning the Queen's head is coroneted. The vast majority of Victoria pennies do not show the Queen with a crown on her head. So this one is special and extremely rare.

What makes it even more unusual is that it was never actually intended for circulation, but obviously was circulated for maybe 80 odd years before someone noticed and saved it.

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That's because it's no ordinary 1865 penny, but what's called a "pattern penny". Meaning the Queen's head is coroneted. The vast majority of Victoria pennies do not show the Queen with a crown on her head. So this one is special and extremely rare.

What makes it even more unusual is that it was never actually intended for circulation, but obviously was circulated for maybe 80 odd years before someone noticed and saved it.

Thank you for also pointing this out to me. I now see why. I have a long way to go 😳

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Thanks Mike, and well done with your two purchases earlier today. Apart from the 1847 I would have liked to improve my 1858 F/B but it seems someone else spotted those in Lot 615. Punters are really sharp nowadays. 😏

Thanks Mike, and well done with your two purchases earlier today. Apart from the 1847 I would have liked to improve my 1858 F/B but it seems someone else spotted those in Lot 615. Punters are really sharp nowadays. 😏

Thanks Ian. Yes they are sharp. Nobody seems to miss a trick these days.

Did you get the 1847?

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Afraid not Mike, I start to think (fear) my wife is looking over my shoulders talking about her next holiday when I get to those dizzy heights.....even if she's out shopping buying some 'useful' clothes for herself!