To stay in Philly, McNabb may need another "financial apology"

During the 2008 season, Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb was benched at halftime of a game against the Ravens. After the 2008 season, McNabb reportedly wanted a “financial apology.”

He got one, via a restructuring of the final two years of his contract, giving him more than $5 million in exchange for no new years.

Now, the Eagles are receiving offers for McNabb, saying nothing to indicate that they won’t trade him. In less than a week, the possibility that McNabb will be traded has become a presumption.

So what if the Eagles turn their noses up at the various offers? Will McNabb happily return after knowing that the team considered dumping him for backup Kevin Kolb?

We think that McNabb will want something in return. Whether it’s more money for 2010, a long-term extension for 2011 and beyond, or a commitment that no restriction will be placed on his ability to walk away and sign with a new team after the season, McNabb will indeed want some sort of consideration if the Eagles decide they want to keep him.

118 Responses to “To stay in Philly, McNabb may need another "financial apology"”

mnmaverick says:Mar 28, 2010 8:21 PM

But wouldn’t that make him “Tebow-like”? ; )

kinghill says:Mar 28, 2010 8:23 PM

So maybe McNabb’s agent is behind all the rumors to help himself and Donovan to a big payday – somewhere. Maybe McNabb is worried he could get injured in 2010 and be worth much less as a free agent, so his agent is stirring the pot now. Makes sense to me, and all you guys in the media are taking the bait.

JOldewurtel says:Mar 28, 2010 8:24 PM

‘To stay in Philly…???’
If I am sure of anything this off-season, it’s that McNabb is gone. This is starting to feel like Jay Cutler Part 2…

Chev Chelios says:Mar 28, 2010 8:27 PM

Can anyone say “lame duck” season?

BlueEyeDevils says:Mar 28, 2010 8:27 PM

There is no way the 2nd pick will be starting for the Eagles – EVER!
There is an Number 1 “OVERALL” pick & another Number 1 1st round pick on the roster and both of them have a combined 6 Championship games & 9 Pro Bowls.
Just because Kolb is another “Great Hope”, the Eagles are not “Dopes”, so if any quarterback gets benched, Kolb is on the “Ropes”.
Sorry guys, but Andy Reid wants a winner, not a guy who puts up 2 300 yard games against horrible defenses.
“The Black Quarterback” – The Future Of The NFL………………..

Bwa Ha Ha says:Mar 28, 2010 8:27 PM

You think? What does McNabb say?
See, would be reporting. “We think” is not

Buschman says:Mar 28, 2010 8:32 PM

They owe him nothing. He’s already earned over $100 million with the Eagles and got the bump in pay last year. Football is a business and trades are a part of it. If he’s not man enough to understand that, then he should be gone anyway.

The Wishbone says:Mar 28, 2010 8:32 PM

So? Why would they care? He’s gotten them zero rings. Eventually they’ll realize that kissing his ass gets them nothing but poorer.
Un-war whiners like Donovan McNabb.

rocman101 says:Mar 28, 2010 8:39 PM

If he becomes a distraction, maybe Andy will slip a poison pill into his next meal.

d.b.cooper says:Mar 28, 2010 8:39 PM

Yep, keep him, Eagles.
Give him 10 mil as an apology.
Maybe name a street after him.
p.s. I hate your team and want you to fail.

the Shoeman says:Mar 28, 2010 8:43 PM

Don’t let the TRUTH get into the way ..
it was only reported by some other rumor-monger-idiot
Donovan McNabb’s New Deal Isn’t “Financial Apology,” Just Good Faith
Anyone who has been an Eagles fan for more than five minutes knows that this is lunacy at its highest level. I don’t mean that the front office or the Eagles organization is crazy, but anyone who believes that is crazy.
Of any team in the league, the Eagles are probably the least likely to hand out “financial apologies” to a player simply because they feel like they’ve been done wrong.
Yes, McNabb was upset about being benched. No, he did not agree with the benching. But does anyone believe that Andy Reid, Tom Heckert, Jeff Lurie, or Joe Banner really care if McNabb’s feelings were hurt? Of course not.
This new contract is nothing more than showing good faith in McNabb. He only has two years left on his deal, and the bottom line is those last two years underpaid him by about $3 million.

yisser says:Mar 28, 2010 8:44 PM

You know when Florio types “We think that…” that it’s another post of absolutely no worth at all. Do we really need more speculative bullshit about McNabb?

REGGIEBUSH says:Mar 28, 2010 8:45 PM

McNabb best days are behind him…give the other kid a shot…

Outsyder says:Mar 28, 2010 8:47 PM

“So what if the Eagles turn their noses up at the various offers? Will McNabb happily return after knowing that the team considered dumping him for backup Kevin Kolb?”
Considering all the reports PFT has been publishing, McNabb knows full well that the team has “entertained” offers for all 3 guys. It’s not a McNabb or nothing scenario.

BlueEyeDevils says:Mar 28, 2010 8:48 PM

Fact:
There are only 6 “ACTIVE” quarterbacks with rings, so that leaves 26 other starters without championships.
By judging McNabb on not winning a championship, then this league is really in trouble if winning a championship is the only value that quarterbacks are graded.
Now, name 3 “ACTIVE” quarterbacks that have led their teams to 5 championship games.
Anyone?

jackybadass says:Mar 28, 2010 8:49 PM

donovan needs a fresh start. the eagle fans need a new wippin boy. he would be great in oakland. he would make them 8-8.

Envyisyoursin says:Mar 28, 2010 8:51 PM

I like McNabb as our QB but sh1t man, I’m getting really sick of all this “pay me off” crap. If he wants to leave, then fine. I’m just tired of seeing him hold the Eagles hostage financially. I hate to say this, but just cut him loose already. Enough of this B.S.!

HellsGrimTyrant says:Mar 28, 2010 8:53 PM

Teams that should seriously consider the McNabb trade,
St. Louis
San Francisco
Arizona
Carolina
Jacksonville
Oakland

Jeff0621 says:Mar 28, 2010 8:56 PM

How about telling him to shut up, carry the clipboard, and pick up your checks every 2 weeks. They are getting rid of him because they believe he’s on the downside – so…why continue to treat this loser like a prima donna?

Buschman says:Mar 28, 2010 8:59 PM

@BlueEyedDevil…you clearly are as pathetic and as dumb as Mike Vick.

WellDisciplinedVC says:Mar 28, 2010 9:00 PM

Is this the same guy who threw the pick to Ronde to shut down the Vet and then lost the opener at the Linc and THEN puked DURING the Super Bowl?
Just kidding Donovan. After you’re gone the Philly fans MIGHT come to appreciate what you brought to the team.
Nah, they’re IDIOTS!!

Buck Stallion says:Mar 28, 2010 9:03 PM

He will be gone.
Chilly ought to pull the trigger on a trade & tell the good ol boy to stay on that tractor.

KevinKolb4SB says:Mar 28, 2010 9:04 PM

Mcnabb is not staying in Philly. The organization certainly is not going to give him more money after how much they already have dished out on him, a heck of a lot. They owe him nothing..

Mooch says:Mar 28, 2010 9:09 PM

This would play into every bad notion that Eagles fans have of McNabb.
Always looking after himself first, spreading blame, being a whiny baby who sulks, and feeling a sense of entitlement.
One SB would justify that kind of behavior. Just one.

AB in Tampa says:Mar 28, 2010 9:10 PM

Would really like to know why everyone blames the quarterback for not winning super bowls. Last time i checked, football was a team sport. Mcnabb can’t throw the ball to himself or play defense. And when they did get to the superbowl they were going against Spygate, who didn’t lose to them back then.

o0OMorrisO0o says:Mar 28, 2010 9:11 PM

BlueEyeDevils = You are a complete idiot. Kolb has a good chance of being great. Leave race the “F” out of it!!!

rayg says:Mar 28, 2010 9:12 PM

You think? What does McNabb say?
See, would be reporting. “We think” is not
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Read the top of the page, knucklehead. It says “Rumor Mill”.

QB or not QB says:Mar 28, 2010 9:13 PM

McNabb is at least 5 million better than the current alternative, ring or no ring.
Buddy Ryan had the last great defense in Philly. Until they get that side of the ball fixed, they will remain ringless.

Iggles07 says:Mar 28, 2010 9:14 PM

Stop reporting MADE UP news stories. You didn’t hear a thing, you are just projecting your own opinion and acting like its newsworthy.
This site gets worse and worse…

When did mcnabb ever whine? Don’t mistake people defending him for mcnabb actually whining himself. As far as I know people have always come to his defense but yet he’s the whined. I don’t get that. Even in this situation mcnabb had said nothing. Last year when cutler found out his coach was looking to get another qb he turned into a little bitch crybaby and he hasn’t done anything in this league. You guys are lame and mcnabb has handled this and any other difficult situation with class.

LetsGoTO_81 says:Mar 28, 2010 9:18 PM

Wishbone
Than I guess that means Un-war you, cause that was kind of a whiney message

fuhgyou says:Mar 28, 2010 9:19 PM

Here you go again, CREATING another story. You’re hacks.

fragmentb says:Mar 28, 2010 9:30 PM

If I’m Philly, I would gladly take the Raiders 3rd rounder for McNabb.

Mooch says:Mar 28, 2010 9:45 PM

Maybe just send him a dumptruck of peeps and Zitner butter cream eggs*. That should smooth things over.
Seriously, dude is gonna be 350 lbs within a year of retirement.
*Jumbo sized, with the candy flower on top that tastes like dye and cracks your teeth.

realitypolice says:Mar 28, 2010 9:47 PM

He is entitled to zero consideration. What is he going to do? Hold out? Become a distraction? Tank the season in a contract year? McNabb isn’t stupid. If the Eagles bring him back, he will play his ass off. He wants one more big contract, and the only way he gets it is to have a big year in 2010, whether it is in Philly or elsewhere.

Mooch says:Mar 28, 2010 9:49 PM

Let’s also claim that the next flash mob is actually a “keep McNabb rally”.
That should soothe his bruised ego, and solve a huge PR problem for the city.
I should run for Mayor with these kinds of solutions.

thestan says:Mar 28, 2010 9:58 PM

F a financial apology – F “5”
He got benched because he SUCKED like he never has before or after in his career for a 3/4 game stretch.
His “sensitivity” is the reason he hasn’t brought 2 SB championships to Philly…Get over the draft booing, get over the fact that people aren’t in love with your childish shannanigans, and play with FIRE and HEART – thats all people in this town demand… Your professionalism is to be admired, your results are better than any we’ve seen…BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY…it hasn’t delivered a ring. The Birds are not an SB team as presently constituted, so to go through another year of retarding “4’s” growth makes no sense-
Thanks for being my QB since ’97 at Cuse…you’ve taken the teams I follow to good heights…just not great heights – this marriage needs to end…I wish you the best, hold no grudges, and look forward to the future with another leader getting a crack at it…you’ve just gotten stale here

Roll Tide NJ says:Mar 28, 2010 10:19 PM

To Blue Eyed Devils:
6 NFC championships…Your Quarterbacks are a combined 1-5 in those championship games. That is one hell of a record. Vick is the only QB McNabb could beat.
9 probowls nice, 0 all pros(the one that really counts).
Donovan is a very good QB and probably a hall of famer. I love everything Donovan did for the Eagles. He and not Reid made the Eagles Relevant for 11 years.
Vick, well QBs who can not throw the rock are not of much use after they turn 30. Thats why no one wants him. If you say he had no recievers, well I give you Roddy White. He became a star with a rookie, Chris Redman and Byron Leftwich.
Atleast Vick is the Best QB on parole. Until Big Ben gets out.

Roll Tide NJ says:Mar 28, 2010 10:22 PM

PS…
Saints had the top D in the NFC and Mc Nabb was a number 2 overall pick. Who care about actual facts though.

.Vox Veritas. says:Mar 28, 2010 10:22 PM

“Can anyone say “lame duck” season?”
Been saying it since January.

CH³NO² says:Mar 28, 2010 10:23 PM

Make Vick the starter and see where you end up…..LMAO!!!
PS- I want the Eagles to fail also!

.Vox Veritas. says:Mar 28, 2010 10:23 PM

“Sorry guys, but Andy Reid wants a winner”
So you’re saying that he’s going to try to draft one?

.Vox Veritas. says:Mar 28, 2010 10:24 PM

“Sorry guys, but Andy Reid wants a winner”
Or maybe you think he’s going to try to talk Troy Aikman out of retirement?

this class sucks says:Mar 28, 2010 10:25 PM

I usually don’t hate fans as a group, but every Eagle’s fan that bitches about McNabb should be punched in the face. Super Bowls don’t grow on trees. You guys think its your god given right to go to the playoffs every year. If you didn’t have McNabb you would be nothing. Vick is awfuyl, Kolb might be ok but thats a huge risk. McNabb is a great QB and if we were on the Cowboys any of the last three years they probably would have been in the Super Bowl.

PatFic says:Mar 28, 2010 10:29 PM

@ Blue Devils…
If Looney Rooney had his way, you may be right.

kpweaver27 says:Mar 28, 2010 10:33 PM

Here’s the question that seems overlooked. If McNabb stays, do the Eagles have a chance at the playoffs? No. Weak running game, weak pass rush, mediocre safeties…this team doesn’t measure up and might not even make the playoffs with McNabb. They need to move to Kolb because it will take a few years for them to be competitive again. Maybe McNabb can go to Carolina, and Andy Reid can take over for John Fox in 2011.

mikemcsaint says:Mar 28, 2010 10:44 PM

You are correct BlueEyeDevils and both of them have collapsed in the biggest games they ever played.

bluestree says:Mar 28, 2010 11:06 PM

No way of telling what the truth is this time of year, and with the freewheeling trades and salary dumping of the uncapped year. Wonder who’s the next big name to be the next big rumor.

BoltsFan says:Mar 28, 2010 11:38 PM

Another Florio “Kiss player rear ends” article. Who cares what McNabb will “want”? He is under contract. He is an EMPLOYEE. And he will do as he is told and like it or he will ride pine and be picking splinters out of his butt the entire 2010 season. If the Eagles choose to exercise their right to trade him or any other player, the players better get used to the fact that until they pony up and buy their own league, they had better do as they are told or go out and find a nice job in the janitorial arts.

SmackMyVickUp.com says:Mar 28, 2010 11:41 PM

If by some slim chance McNabb returns and they give him a financial apology they lose Kolb for good next year.
With Kolb gone, McNabb gets hurt their season is over.
All the talk says McNabb leaves. Look for him to pull a Cutler if he is still there after the draft, which is not likely.

Whiskeytangofoxtrot says:Mar 28, 2010 11:49 PM

Give him a gold-plated Escalade and 6,000 cases of Chunky® soup and ship him to Oak-town. Include an armed guard for the Escalade, as JaMarcus will probably try to boost the damn thing.

papimp911 says:Mar 29, 2010 12:11 AM

Ugh. The substance-less rumor mongering hits a new low. Jesus, I know it says “rumor mill” on the top of this website, but for god’s sake, it shouldn’t mean you can drum up anything out of thin air. No substance to this whatsoever (shocking!)

NoKoolaidCowboy says:Mar 29, 2010 12:19 AM

If he does stick around, his head won’t be in the right place.

Huskersrule says:Mar 29, 2010 1:08 AM

I think McNabb sucks, however this article is nothing but speculation, the posters that are taking it as fact are morons. You suck Florio.

funi says:Mar 29, 2010 1:09 AM

Give McNabb $500,000 every time he pukes during the last drive of the game!

east96street says:Mar 29, 2010 1:26 AM

AB in Tampa says:
“Would really like to know why everyone blames the quarterback for not winning super bowls.”
Apparently, you didn’t watch that Super Bowl. T.O. was unstoppable and Westbrook was a disaster. Now, you can certainly blame Andy, but McNabb had enough credibility to tell Andy that they needed to throw more and he didn’t. Part of that, no doubt, was that he was off target most of the game. Owens and Pinkston made circus catches that saved McNabb. Despite WRs playing well, he still had three interceptions, including one horrendous INT right in front of the goal line. Put it all together and I think you can fairly say that McNabb played a key role in that defeat. Was it ALL his fault? No. But if he played his best game, Philly would have won.

fmax4 says:Mar 29, 2010 1:34 AM

Archie Bunker,
Really? You went there? Cmon man…..
A list can also be made of the same characteristics you mentioned in white QB’s.
Leave it alone dude. Ignore BED!

monet99 says:Mar 29, 2010 2:49 AM

Financial apology? LOL No way in the world. Nice made up story

JunkYardDogg1156 says:Mar 29, 2010 3:04 AM

# BlueEyeDevils says: March 28, 2010 8:48 PM
Fact:
There are only 6 “ACTIVE” quarterbacks with rings, so that leaves 26 other starters without championships.
By judging McNabb on not winning a championship, then this league is really in trouble if winning a championship is the only value that quarterbacks are graded.
Now, name 3 “ACTIVE” quarterbacks that have led their teams to 5 championship games.
Anyone?
———————————————————-
Fact:
You are a race bating POS.
Now, can anyone honestly deny the above fact?
The racist fool – the present & future of the PFT.

enigk says:Mar 29, 2010 3:06 AM

rayg says:
March 28, 2010 9:12 PM
Read the top of the page, knucklehead. It says “Rumor Mill”.
======================
Read a dictionary, douchebag. It doesn’t say “Conjecture Mill”. Bwa’s point (along with the other people who realized this ‘story’ is worthless) is 100% valid.

Big Tex says:Mar 29, 2010 5:19 AM

@BlueEyeDevils
So Michael Vick is great because he was a Number “1” OVERALL pick, huh? What about that Number “1” OVERALL pick in Oakland? Is he great too? Jeff George was a number 1 overall. Tim Couch was number 1 overall. How great were they?
You see it’s not a race issue as you try to make it. It’s a “can you produce” issue.
And by the way, with several decades of Super Bowls behind us now, please identify all the black QBs not named “Doug Williams” who have won a Lombardi.
Let’s leave the race card playing to the pinhead extremists. Both sides.

Jaydub says:Mar 29, 2010 5:44 AM

“Now, name 3 “ACTIVE” quarterbacks that have led their teams to 5 championship games.”
——————————————-
1-4 in those games, and the one win was over the sorry Falcons with a pathetic excuse for a QB in Vick. The teams that the Eagles lost to were far more impressive, which makes McNabb’s career seem not quite so great. When the pressure is on, he collapses like a house of cards

AndyReidIsABadCoach says:Mar 29, 2010 7:08 AM

BlueEyeDevils says:
March 28, 2010 8:48 PM
Fact:
There are only 6 “ACTIVE” quarterbacks with rings, so that leaves 26 other starters without championships.
By judging McNabb on not winning a championship, then this league is really in trouble if winning a championship is the only value that quarterbacks are graded.
Now, name 3 “ACTIVE” quarterbacks that have led their teams to 5 championship games.
Anyone?
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He should have won at least 1 Super Bowl from that – we were favored in all of those Championship games and won once – and our defense really won that game vs. Atlanta. McNabb, who I think has done great things for this team, hasn’t been able to put the team on his back and carry them to the win through adversity in those other big games. It does not mean that he did not do great things, but some people feel that it reflects his lack of leadership and ability to come through in the clutch.
Of course Andy Reid’s non-adjustable gameplan has not helped, but McNabb has not shown the ability to be able to think for himself either in those situations.

Hank_SJ says:Mar 29, 2010 7:09 AM

McNabb does whine, in a passive-aggressive way. End of last season press conf., he adds in a response ‘sorry we didn’t win all 16 games’ with that half-ass grin. Or how about he brings up draft day every chance he gets? Or his girl-fight with TO? ‘Black-on-black crime’ yeah, right. Or how about it’s always someone else’s fault for a loss, etc? Last year he blamed the ‘young guys’ (receivers) for not being able to make the catches, then backed-off the comments a few days later.

Krow says:Mar 29, 2010 7:13 AM

McNabb is like a pouty little girl. Philly really ought to dump this crybaby and move on.

JustMike says:Mar 29, 2010 7:13 AM

I’d bive him an incentive-loaded contract, and nothing more. This guy has produced the same amount of trophies as Ryan Leaf.

Thor says:Mar 29, 2010 7:32 AM

“This is my offer. Nothing. Not even the cost of the license which I would ask that you put up with your own money.” Godfather II
Just trade him and move on.

purpleman527 says:Mar 29, 2010 7:59 AM

As I stated previously, you have to ask this question. Why would any team now give up any draft pick or player for McNabb?
Since McNabb can say “no” to a trade by saying I won’t come in to play for your team, he holds the cards. There is now no place on the Eagles for McNabb since he will be a royal pain in the butt.
Mark it down. McNabb will end up being cut, because any team that wants him, just has to let McBaby play the soap opera ticket out of town.
(I know, some idiot poster called my post the dumbest post ever. Well, the post about my post being the dumbest ever, really is the dumbest post ever!)

AtTheMurph says:Mar 29, 2010 8:00 AM

Isn’t the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and expectiing different results? WTF are they thinking in Philly? McNubb is never going to win a championship. He just can’t do it. He’s the new Favre who will never win another championship because of himself. Move on already or lament the fact that you couldn’t win the big one.

kaninfaan says:Mar 29, 2010 8:31 AM

“Now, the Eagles are receiving offers for McNabb, saying nothing to indicate that they won’t trade him”
This sentence is actually a straight out lie. Not the first on this website, not even especially uncommon on any americann sports site but still.
Why doesnt anyone distinguish themself from the masses of “sports sites” by NOT telling lies?
Or is that bad business?
I propose that PFT publishes video of mcnabb throwing up in the superbowl vs the patriots.
A “gazillion” cameras and still nothing? Not even a blurred photo from across the field!
Yet, “everyone” “knows” that he did “it”. Stupid.
Cmon PFT, or the PFT “community”! Bring some hard evidence for something!

Brady-mancrush says:Mar 29, 2010 8:44 AM

“What did I tell you people, I was right all along”……Rush Limbuagh

AndyReidIsABadCoach says:Mar 29, 2010 8:52 AM

@purpleman527
That is the dumbest post ever. But here is why this post isn’t:
The Eagles would sooner keep McNabb for this season and then let him walk next year – but there is no benefit to cutting him per your logic. Do you seriously think the Eagles will put him on the waiver wire knowing very well that another team’s QB could get hurt in training camp? You are talking about the same organization that refused to cut Reggie Brown or Lido Sheppard because they believed they could trade them (it took 1 full year to do so on both, but they eventually did it).
Why would someone want him via trade? Because they can get him now instead of competing with everyone else who is a more desirable destination for McNabb. McNabb is an upgrade for a significant number of teams, but not everyone has the assets to acquire him today. Lastly, if a team were to sign McNabb NEXT offseason, that team can then potentially trade their current QB for a draft pick, which then would mean said team received more value than the Eagles for McNabb, which will not sit well with the Eagles FO.
Hell, Pittsburgh may be one of those surprising landing spots for McNabb given all the drama with their QB situation right now…

Opie says:Mar 29, 2010 8:56 AM

@ the Poo Flinging Monkey, CornFlorio says:
“Now, the Eagles are receiving offers for McNabb, saying nothing to indicate that they won’t trade him.” ———————-
Actually, they have said that, but you choose to ignore that. You marginalize what they say, but put your opinion out there that you somehow, with all your lawyerly experience, actually have an idea regarding personnel decisions?!? Especially, the Eagles’ decisions – of which you have shown you have absolutely no idea.
“In less than a week, the possibility that McNabb will be traded has become a presumption.”———————————-
A presumption, by you and your expert sources buddies, but yes a presumption of sorts.
I agree with kaninfaan, grow some hair on your testicles and stop flinging poo at the bars of your cage.
OR, here’s a novel idea, do some work and dig a little on supposed rumors before you post them as half truths/what “we” believe will happen b.s.
Of course, if I could read other people’s articles/blogs, quote them as “sources” or “well connected inside sources” who spoke on the condition of anonymity AND get paid for it……….yeah, I’d do it.

igglesfan31 says:Mar 29, 2010 9:18 AM

I can’t believe how many “Eagle Haters” post on Eagle info message boards. Stick to your own boards and complain about the Eagles! Look, Mcnabb was a very good QB for 11 years. No we didn’t win a SB. But I will take the last 11 years the Eagles had over say, Detroit, Cincy, Atlanta, Raiders, Seattle, San Fran, and the list goes on. Do I want a SB championship? Absolutely!! Do I think McNabb can bring us 1? No. As a #2 pick, Kolb could be a very good QB. Even though they lost to The Saints, Kolb threw for over 300 yards against a very good D. The Eagles need a fresh start and so does McNabb. He was the best QB the Eagles have had(other than Norm Van Brocklin). He deserves our praise and our respect. But it is time to move on.

igglesfan31 says:Mar 29, 2010 9:18 AM

I can’t believe how many “Eagle Haters” post on Eagle info message boards. Stick to your own boards and complain about the Eagles! Look, Mcnabb was a very good QB for 11 years. No we didn’t win a SB. But I will take the last 11 years the Eagles had over say, Detroit, Cincy, Atlanta, Raiders, Seattle, San Fran, and the list goes on. Do I want a SB championship? Absolutely!! Do I think McNabb can bring us 1? No. As a #2 pick, Kolb could be a very good QB. Even though they lost to The Saints, Kolb threw for over 300 yards against a very good D. The Eagles need a fresh start and so does McNabb. He was the best QB the Eagles have had(other than Norm Van Brocklin). He deserves our praise and our respect. But it is time to move on.

War_Paint says:Mar 29, 2010 9:19 AM

McNabb is an over rated, choking, puking, douche!
Oh and BlueEyedDevil’s black klansman act is really lame. I find it hard to believe that his lame crap would be allowed if he wasn’t a brother. Weak.

purpleman527 says:Mar 29, 2010 9:22 AM

@ AndyReidIsABadCoach
So what happens if McBaby is sitting on the roster and pissing and moaning about whatever, because his feelings got hurt about the trade that didn’t happen?
In other words, does Philly really want the drama and the potential mess it could cause with Kolb, their future is now QB?
McNabb is or was the franchise. I don’t think you can compare him with the other players you mentioned because McNabb is the image of the Eagles.
Do you think McNabb would accept a trade to St.Louis, Oakland, Cleveland or any other bottom feeder? Hell no. Thus McNabb could tell the potential club, F you and the club won’t trade for him.
Thus, the only solution for Reid and the Eagles is to cut him loose. And any team that McNabb would accept via trade will not pull the trigger on the trade knowing McNabb will be a cluster F*** for the Eagles.
But as your name indicates, maybe the Eagles would keep a psycho baby on the roster to piss and moan and create chemistry problems.
By the way. You are an idiot !

dave519 says:Mar 29, 2010 9:51 AM

The problem with reid is the fact of facing reality, the guy he drafted didn’t have the resolve to become great, yeah during the regular season he’d perform, then the eagles made that fatal mistake giving him that huge contract before he really proved himself. What you have then is someone who figures ” I must be great they paid me ” and the whole desire to win it all evaporates…..

blacktoothgrin says:Mar 29, 2010 9:53 AM

“Whiskeytangofoxtrot says:
March 28, 2010 11:49 PM
Give him a gold-plated Escalade and 6,000 cases of Chunky® soup and ship him to Oak-town. Include an armed guard for the Escalade, as JaMarcus will probably try to boost the damn thing.”
I’m thinking that Jafatass would be more interested in the Chunky

KingJoe! says:Mar 29, 2010 9:59 AM

“Chev Chelios says:
March 28, 2010 8:27 PM
Can anyone say “lame duck” season?”
Lame duck season???? That is stupid. He would be in a contract year and he would play his a$$ off.

Jintsbowl says:Mar 29, 2010 10:11 AM

hey igglesfan….shutup you pansy.

Mooch says:Mar 29, 2010 10:20 AM

That ain’t the point. He’d play his ass off and lose a bunch of games by 10 pts. The defense blows.
Rebuild the team, and use your biggest chip to do it.
It. Is. A. Business.

Mooch says:Mar 29, 2010 10:26 AM

That ain’t the point. He’d play his ass off and lose a bunch of games by 10 pts. The defense blows.
Rebuild the team, and use your biggest chip to do it.
It. Is. A. Business.

AndyReidIsABadCoach says:Mar 29, 2010 10:50 AM

@purpleman5
Glad you think I am an idiot, but coming from you, really doesn’t mean much.
2 things:
1) Oakland may trade for McNabb without a contract extension to 1) Sell Tickets 2) Hope he actually likes it there (as delusional as Al Davis is) and 3) Continue the trend of doing just that as they did with Richard Seymour last year
2) Who says McNabb would not sign an extension to any of those places? St. Louis has his old QB Coach and former Def. Coordinator, Cleveland has the old Director of Player Personnel AND Mike Holmgren in the mix. The 49ers, for instance, might be a place he would sign as the NFC West is up for grabs and he immediately makes them a playoff contender.
This is McNabb’s last chance for a big contract – he is not exactly the portrait of durability. Suppose he tears yet another ACL, his value diminishes next season, so a lucrative contract that sets him for his career is far more likely than him vetoing that opportunity regardless of the destination.
You are also making statements under the consideration that no other team is interested in McNabb except the ones you have heard about.
If it comes down to a worst case scenario, which is what you are implying, the Eagles will still get SOMETHING for McNabb. Teams would be willing to part with 3rd and 4th rounders for a player with 1 year left on his contract without a signing an extension – did you ever consider that?

@jintsbowl
seems I hit a nerve. It’s shame ur so dumb you don’t understand what it is to be a true fan of your team. Pansy? How about speaker of the truth…And name calling? how old are you? 5? go back to the not so Giants page and cry there!

igglesfan31 says:Mar 29, 2010 11:23 AM

@jintsbowl
seems I hit a nerve. It’s shame ur so dumb you don’t understand what it is to be a true fan of your team. Pansy? How about speaker of the truth…And name calling? how old are you? 5? go back to the not so Giants page and cry there!

Opie says:Mar 29, 2010 12:37 PM

Ignorance is truly bliss for some folks….you know who you are

purpleman527 says:Mar 29, 2010 12:44 PM

@ AndyReidIsABadCoach
Yes I did consider that for :10 seconds.
Do you think McNabb will sign with a bottom feeder, when he has already said he doesn’t want to play in Oakland or St. Louis?
Did YOU ever consider that McNabb can say hell no to any contract with a new team?

purpleman527 says:Mar 29, 2010 1:28 PM

@ AndyReidIsABadCoach
Also consider this:
A week ago McNabb was possibly going for a late 1st round or early second round. Now you are talking about a 3rd or 4th rounder?
What the hell happened in a week?
Why is his “value” dropping so fast?

Mooch says:Mar 29, 2010 1:32 PM

How much $ does he need for being booed on draft day?
Reggie Miller was booed on draft day as well, never seemed to affect his mental state.

AndyReidIsABadCoach says:Mar 29, 2010 2:14 PM

@ AndyReidIsABadCoach
Show me where McNabb said he didn’t want to play in St. Louis – because that has never come out.
He allegedly said it for Oakland (reports going both ways), but again, the Raiders may not ask for a long term contract, meaning McNabb’s extension is a non-issue.
And yes, McNabb can say hell no to any contract with a new team if he decides he does not want a guaranteed huge contract, but that just means the price of acquiring him will be less than ideal for the Eagles. The Eagles will either make the deal for less or let him start. Most likely, they will take the deal for less. They will never cut him.
Want proof? If the Eagles cut McNabb, he could very well end up a Washington Redskin which is yet another thing you never considered in your short-sightedness.
Remember Brett Favre’s departure from Green Bay – the Jets were not a place he wanted to go, but he sucked it up and went there anyway and the Jets gave up a draft pick for a 1-year contract. Green Bay never cut him, and the Jets essentially traded a performance based draft pick for a 1-year contract.

AndyReidIsABadCoach says:Mar 29, 2010 2:30 PM

@purpleman527
Are you a moron? Read something you are responding to in its entirety before you answer.
I said in a worst case scenario, which is one you are projecting, if the Eagles have a trade partner who is willing to give up a 1st or 2nd round pick for McNabb but McNabb does not want to sign an extension with, that same team would most likely be willing to depart with a 3rd or 4th round pick to have McNabb for 1-year vs. no McNabb at all. In the worst case scenario, the Eagles would still trade McNabb for less value or keep him as a starter if what you are implying is true about the extensions.
What will definitely not happen is the Eagles cutting McNabb. As I just mentioned in my post, you do not cut Donovan McNabb because of the following:
1) Potential that he signs with another team in your division
2) Someone will trade for him regardless of the situation (See Richard Seymour and Brett Favre). Whether it be a 1st or 4th rounder, there will be a taker.
3) Team that signs him earns more value by trading other QB on roster
– I.E. Vikings sign McNabb after he is cut (in 2011 since his contract would be up) and then the Vikings trade Rosenfels to the Raiders for a 3rd Round Pick. The Vikings get McNabb and a 3rd round pick, the Eagles get nothing for McNabb.
Do you not understand common sense?

tshizzle01 says:Mar 29, 2010 2:35 PM

.Vox Veritas. says:
March 28, 2010 10:24 PM
“Sorry guys, but Andy Reid wants a winner”
Or maybe you think he’s going to try to talk Troy Aikman out of retirement?
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Troy Aikman couldn’t carry McNabb’s jock. I could have Quarterbacked Aikman’s team to the superbowl.

doubldipp says:Mar 29, 2010 2:39 PM

If you listen to the only interview Andy Reid had last week at the end he said “Mcnabb is my starter for 2010 and how many times do you want me to say it Mcnabb is my starter “. Nobody seems to want to hear that..

december says:Mar 29, 2010 3:46 PM

“Also consider this:
A week ago McNabb was possibly going for a late 1st round or early second round. Now you are talking about a 3rd or 4th rounder?
What the hell happened in a week?
Why is his “value” dropping so fast?”
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Because Florio has a good imagination? You guys are arguing over what a bunch of espn nerds (and espn nerd wanna-bes) are making up. Until an actual trade goes down, you’re just wasting your time. This is just more fiction to generate website hits.

Big Tex says:Mar 29, 2010 3:49 PM

@tshizzle01
“I could have Quarterbacked Aikman’s team to the superbowl.”
Oh really! And Jimmy and Jerry never called? Did they not have your phone number? Maybe there was no cell service on whatever f…ing planet you’re living on!
You have now revealed yourself to be the dumbest poster of the day. Congratulations on your award.
MORON!

AndyReidIsABadCoach says:Mar 29, 2010 3:51 PM

“# doubldipp says: March 29, 2010 2:39 PM
If you listen to the only interview Andy Reid had last week at the end he said “Mcnabb is my starter for 2010 and how many times do you want me to say it Mcnabb is my starter “. Nobody seems to want to hear that..”
I would wholeheartedly agree, but there is too many moving parts to believe him:
1) McNabb and Kolb cannot go into the season both on the final years of their contracts. If McNabb is the starter and Kolb starts to negotiate an extension, McNabb knows his future in Philadelphia is finished and what incentive is that for the rest of the year? If the extension for McNabb happens, Kolb will not re-sign to be a backup and will pack his bags. Either way, the Eagles get nothing in return for 2 of their most valuable assets.
2) If McNabb was their starter this year, they probably would have already signed him to an extension and traded Kolb. Plenty of teams who could have used Kolb have looked elsewhere: Cleveland and Seattle. This means that perhaps the Eagles upped the value of Kolb to an inconsiderable level so no one could make an offer they could not refuse, thus firing off a delay tactic used to move McNabb at the prime point in their eyes.
3) Andy Reid: If there is any truth to the report that Reid and Lurie/Banner are at odds on whether or not to trade McNabb, consider this: If Lurie and Banner want to trade McNabb, and Reid keeps him and does not win a Super Bowl (or more likely, fails to make the playoffs), Reid is out the door with McNabb. If Reid starts Kolb, he buys himself a few years as Kolb is an unproven starter.
4) The Eagles lack of aggressiveness in Free Agency. So many holes and an uncapped year, you figure if the Eagles had the WIN NOW mentality, we would have picked up some big names to try and get over that hump. We have, instead, released and traded some of the carry overs from a few years back and laid low. We have to improve through the draft, and that would involve getting some higher draft picks for a certain QB.
5) Reid also said that Kolb was his #2 and Vick was his #3 QB. He speaks in the present tense – as of right now, McNabb is his starting QB. What else is he supposed to say with him still on the roster?

Eric Kidd says:Mar 29, 2010 6:09 PM

I would love this headline if I hadn’t tweeted it to Florio 2 1/2 weeks ago. @erickidd07, check the timeline.

God's Own Silver and Blue says:Mar 30, 2010 12:39 AM

No, Donovan, DON’T DO IT! STAY IN PHILLY! I’ve got 5 million McNabb bobblehead dolls with Vomit Action sitting on the docks in China, just waiting to get into the stores by Christmas. If you change your uni colors now, I’ll be stuck with the things or have to have them repainted which costs a damn fortune.

tshizzle01 says:Mar 30, 2010 9:05 AM

Big Tex says:
March 29, 2010 3:49 PM
@tshizzle01
“I could have Quarterbacked Aikman’s team to the superbowl.”
Oh really! And Jimmy and Jerry never called? Did they not have your phone number? Maybe there was no cell service on whatever f…ing planet you’re living on!
You have now revealed yourself to be the dumbest poster of the day. Congratulations on your award.
MORON!
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I forgot that you Cowboy fans aren’t necessarily the smartest folk out there, and therefore may not understand speaking metaphorically, so let me spell this out as monosyllabically as possible.
Aikman not that good quarterback, had many good players with him. *grunt, scratch* McNabb have no receivers except TO and Desean, still make playoffs.
Get it, Dunce?

Mooch says:Mar 30, 2010 9:48 AM

Mcnabb had PLENTY of offensive weapons in the passing game as from 2004 onward. Even though, in the opinion of fans, the WR’s were subpar (although Reid and McNabb always said they were good enough to win).
Add this into the mix of passing threats…
Brian Westbrook
2004 – 73 catches / 6 TD
2005 – 61 catches / 4 TD
2006 – 77 catches / 4 TD
2007 -90 catches / 5 TD
2008 – 54 catches / 5 TD
When Westbrook fell off in 2009, the offense became a FG machine. McNabb could not close out drives.

anjelmanning says:Mar 30, 2010 10:26 AM

King HILL – Are you deaf or blind??? Retarded?

Big Tex says:Mar 30, 2010 11:36 AM

@tshizzle01
Glad to see that you admit your statement about being able to quarterback a pro team yourself was a crock. Since Aikman was such an inferior QB in your eyes and obviously a product of all the talent around him as you put it, I’m sure that you will be calling for a quick induction into the HOF for the Dallas OL from the 90’s and Jay Novacek and Charles Haley and alot of other guys from that team because clearly somebody was responsible.
That’s the kind of crap we always get from you Eagles pinheads. “Aikman wasn’t good. It was Emmitt and Irvin. Irvin wasn’t good. It was Aikman and Emmitt. Emmitt wasn’t any good. It was Aikman and the OL.”
Troy NEVER got benched for any reason other than injury. Can’t say that about the great Donovan, can you. Just imagine how many yards Troy might have thrown for n a West Coast system. He threw for a higher completion percentage than McNabb and Old Chunky is supposed to be in the completion friendly system. Aikman has similar yardage numbers to Donny and yet Troy had a RB who gained what, about 12,000 more yards than McSoup’s RB.
Aikman has as many NFL Championships as the Eagles’ do in their entire HISTORY, dude. And ya’ll ain’t had one in 50 years. Were you even alive the last time the Eagles won? Were your parents even alive?
Oh yeah, one last thing, when the championship was on the line, Troy produced victories. Donny produced the remains of his breakfast.
Face!

Opie says:Mar 30, 2010 12:03 PM

“Fans might also have forgotten that this so-called evidence of choking was soon followed by a 30-yard touchdown strike to Lewis.”
Although he didn’t puke, if the above is the result of puking, all fans would take their qb puking from time to time….

Big Tex says:Mar 30, 2010 1:47 PM

@Opie
Would those same fans be happy with getting sacked 4 times and throwing 3 INTs in the biggest game of his life? A TD when down 10 under 2 minutes? So what.

tshizzle01 says:Mar 30, 2010 2:08 PM

@ Big Tex“That’s the kind of crap we always get from you Eagles pinheads. “Aikman wasn’t good. It was Emmitt and Irvin. Irvin wasn’t good. It was Aikman and Emmitt. Emmitt wasn’t any good. It was Aikman and the OL.”
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I dont know what Eagles fans you have been dealing with in the past, but I will admit that Irvin was good, Emmitt was good (as much as I dont like either of them). I will even say that the OL that he had was exceptional. My point is that any half way decent pro quarterback would have excelled on that team. Put Aikman in the situation that McNabb has been in throughout his career and I would not expect half of the successes that McNabb had.
You talk of the Eagles “pinheads” that make this argument, yet you eagerly throw out the “Aikman has as many NFL Championships as the Eagles’ do in their entire HISTORY, dude.”
As you Cowboy fans have so eloquently put it (over the past 10 years with the exception of 2009).. “That is all in the past, why dig up the past?” Yet, no sooner than those words part from your lips you follow it up with “5 rings”
Seriously, you Cowboy fans are idiots.

slick12 says:Mar 30, 2010 3:28 PM

Big Tex As an Eagles fan, Aikman was one of the few Cowboys I did like mainly because of his humble disposition. Truthfully, I must admit, despite the ravings of other Eaglemaniacs, he was far more accurate than McNabb will ever be. Sorry (fellow Bird Fans) Does this make me a traitor? What’s loyalty? Lying to oneself? They say the truth shall set you free and the truth of the matter is, McNabb is not suitable for the type of offense that Reid tries to present and never will be. Unfortunately, McNabb doesn’t possess the intangible “It”. Kolb seems to and I’m willing to chance it with Kolb rather than elven more frustratingly infuriating years of McNabb.

tighthead says:Mar 30, 2010 8:13 PM

Mcnabb has played WELL for the eagles for many seasons. Why do so many fans blame him for the lack of titles. It takes great play from the whole roster, great coaching from the staff and great work in the front office. It also requires a lack of injuries and a LOT OF LUCK. The eagles have let themselves down in many of these areas over Mcnabbs career. Blame the Whole dam organization not just D-Mac.

Big Tex says:Mar 30, 2010 10:34 PM

The QB gets too much credit for team success and too much blame for team failure. That’s one of the reasons the position pays as well as it does. Same goes for the Head Coach.

Mooch says:Mar 30, 2010 10:37 PM

Aikman ran the system, ran it well, got rings. Case closed.
McNabb can’t run this system well enough to get rings. Case closed.
I’m an Eagle fan, but why get caught up in style points or stats – the record is what the record is.
A lot of that is the coach, he’s never changed the gameplan or system to better suit Donovan’s strengths, but it is what it is.
Personally, I’d like to see what McNabb could do in another system – but that won’t be happening here what with Reid’s extension, so there is only one choice – cash in the asset and rebuild the crappy defense.
If McNabb has a career season for the Birds next year we’d only go 10-6 and lose in the first round. The defense is Kotite-era quality.

Big Tex says:Mar 31, 2010 8:04 AM

I got into this discussion because someone to the position that Troy Aikman was kind of “Trent Dilfer-Level” spare who couldn’t carry Donovan’s jock. Not true. That’s roughly akin to saying that anybody could have been Joe Montana if they’d had Jerry Rice and John Taylor to throw to. Realize that Aikman was one year older than Donovan when he retired due to multiple concussions and a back injury. Also realize that Troy played and won three Super Bowls while throwing a total of 1 INT. Donny played and lost one Super Bowl while throwing 3 INTs.
Mooch is correct. The Eagles’ problems on the defensive side of the ball should be their biggest concern. The tragic death of DC Jim Johnson had to take its toll on his group, but the reality is the Eagles defense has match up problems with the Dallas offense.
Mooch is also correct in that this appears to be a “how can I best use my assests” move by Eagles management. I’m sure there are those who are thinking that if they got a 2nd for AJ Feeley then surely they can break the bank with McNabb. Sorry. Ain’t happening.

Opie says:Mar 31, 2010 10:14 AM

Big Tex says:
“A TD when down 10 under 2 minutes? So what.” —————- First, think about what you just wrote. So what?!? Saying that, my point is that “if” you argue that DNabb threw up and choked, then he couldn’t and wouldn’t have thrown a TD to get them w/in 3.
Additionally, DNabb is the first to admit he didn’t have his best game. Check his quotes post game. He was disappointed and felt that had he taken care of the ball better, they would’ve won easily.
I’m not unrealistic in what I think will be offers for DNabb. I am, however, realistic in the fact that you have to be pragmatic about the situation. You have a 33 year old pro bowl qb coming off one of his best seasons. You don’t ship him anywhere for a 4th or 5th round pick, AJ Feeley deal be damned.
IF the FO thinks they are a few years or a few players away from another run, then you try to put together the best deal for whomever.
I’m not sold on the “Eagles are in rebuilding mode.” They had one of the youngest teams in the NFL last year. Injuries caused a few holes to be exploited.
I posted somewhere earlier, last year’s team, in spite of all the problems, made the playoffs and had a chance to win their division until the last game of the year. It was the 1st time they’ve lost in the 1st round.
This team is not rebuilding, it is stocked with quality, young talent. Realistically, they need help at LB, another OL, and a Safety. This is why I say they will not trade DNabb, but are using the onslaught of media attention to work out the most favorable deal for Kolb and/or Vick.
As for all the “rumors” that the Eagles are only receiving, at best, 3rd round offers for DNabb, I will be the first to apologize if they trade him straight up for a 3rd or later pick.

Big Tex says:Mar 31, 2010 11:35 AM

@Opie
I certainly don’t think that McNabb will be traded for a 4th or 5th rounder. I do believe that alot of what is going on is posturing to secure the greatest value possible. I believe that Philly would prefer to trade Vick and keep McNabb to start one more year while they assure themselves that Kolb is ready to take over. The problem with that plan is that apparently, nobody wants Vick (I wouldn’t either). Additionally, they are faced with either extending Donny or watching him walk next year for a compensatory pick.
The Eagles are not devoid of talent, but there are also some substantial holes. Yes, the Eagles made the playoffs last year, but they beat one team with a winning record all year and that was the 9-7 Falcons who were starting Chris Redman at QB and the Eagles lost to the JaMarcus Russell led Raiders. The Eagles have concerns at OL, DL, LB, RB, and S. How many of those holes can they fill in one draft?
McNabb is not without value in the league, but when your last eight quarters of football for the year amounted to 53% and 1TD and 1 INT and 14 points well, I’m sorry, but that doesn’t make many GMs jump up and down and say “Get me that guy”. The fact that he will be 34 before the end of next season and the benching for A J Feeley not that long ago don’t exactly bolster his value. It always best for pro QBs to be remembered for something other than their air guitar solo.

Opie says:Mar 31, 2010 1:14 PM

@ Big Tex:
I completely agree with you re: the posturing. All things being equal, trading Vick would have to rank pretty high on their list of things to do. I also agree that it isn’t as easy as they’d hoped.
As for the compensatory pick, that was my point in another post. If all you’re being offered is “bits,” you can keep him for a year and get that if he decides to walk.
Unfortunately, they can’t make a schedule out to include just winning teams. Parity in the NFL is what makes it exciting year to year. I understand what you’re trying to say, but going into the season their schedule looked to be very difficult.
For more evidence of that, the Eagles of 2008 prove out the parity. 9-7-1 (tying the Bengals for crying out loud) and they get to the NFC Champ.
As for concerns at OL, DL, LB, RB, and S: they are “concerns” and I think most teams have those concerns at multiple positions. RB & DL are not a holes for the Eagles. OL & LB need guys recoving from injuries. Now, safety and LB need some help to be sure.
But, again, I think we agree you can fill those voids through the draft and/or trades. 4 picks in the top 80 or so and if they are able to make a couple of moves = these guys are still in it.
As for the last 8 quarters, I’m pretty sure that most qb’s behind that OL & with that defense would’ve been hard pressed to put up much better numbers. As much as I hate to admit this, Dallas was a very good team last year. They underachieved in the playoffs.
Remember, NFL folks have short memories, what is one man’s trash is another’s treasure. Ex. being Delhomme, Anderson, heck even the fact that Vick is back in the NFL. OR Whitehurst getting the deal he got after never throwing a pass?!?
I do agree, though, these rumors, etc. are about posturing.

eaglelover1 says:Apr 1, 2010 12:40 PM

Now, name 3 “ACTIVE” quarterbacks that have led their teams to 5 championship games.
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Brett Favre, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady:
Brett Favre – 6 Championship Games
NFC Championship Game:
1995, 1996, 1997 and 2007
Superbowl XXXI and XXXII
Peyton Manning – 5 Championship Games
AFC Champonship Game:
2003, 2006, and 2009
Superbowl XLI and XLIV
Tom Brady – 9 Championship Games
AFC Championship Game:
2001, 2003, 2004, 2006 and 2007
Superbowl XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX and XLII.
What was your point again?
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How in the hell has Brady gone to 9 AFC championship games when he has only been the team starter for 9 years?
Brett Favre has been to 5 Championship games 4 in GB and 1 in Minn. In almost 20 years.
Peyton Manning has been to 3 AFC Championship games.
Annuvin: You sir are an idiot.