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Interesting. I think a situation like Buffalo is where he'd do good. I do like Langston Walker, though, especially in the AFC East where the pass rush is honestly kind of weak. He's admittedly a better fit on the right side, but he was probably Buffalo's best lineman last year. Joey Porter is probably the only outside pass rusher that makes a huge impact on games at this point. Richard Seymour was able to pick up eight sacks last year though and Adalius Thomas is great when healthy/used corectly.

Anyways, anyone going to Bills training camp this year? I have an old friend who lives in Rochester, NY, so we end up going, and I'll be going this year as well. It's just convenient to visit him that time of year so we have something fun and memorable to do. Last year I was able to meet/get autographs from a bunch of the younger players on the team. Maybe if anyone else is going we could have a little NFLDC meetup or something at the camp.

I'm stopping in Fairport to visit my friends for about a week I don't know when I kind of would put training along with that, it'd be great

TORONTO -- Hard to tell who was the main attraction Thursday in the Rogers Centre. Was it Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez and the New York Yankees or Trent Edwards, Lee Evans and the Buffalo Bills?

The Bills' duo was all around the ballpark during the game and got a big thrill by taking batting practice three hours before the first pitch.

Edwards belted a pair of home runs into the left-field seats and burst out of the cage celebrating them. Evans looked like, well, a football player as he hit a few ground balls to the outfield and not much more.

"That's tough. I got tired with just about 10 swings in there," a smiling Edwards said. "I can't imagine doing that every day. I got some groin issues right now, blisters on my hands. Part of the game of playing baseball I guess."

Bills receiver Lee Evans fouls one back.

"I was a little nerved up and I got a little winded," Evans (left) said. "I didn't expect to get winded. I've never been a strong hitter. I just use my speed and be an athlete out here. I hit a couple base hits. That's my game. I'm not for power. One base at a time."

With their socks pulled high like old-schoolers, Edwards and Evans looked snazzy in their official black Blue Jays uniforms, complete with names and numbers 5 and 83.

Edwards said he hadn't played baseball since he was in the eighth grade, when he pitched a one-hitter in a Little League game but lost, 1-0. Evans said he was confident because he had been practicing hard on his Wii and is a regular Wiffle ball player in the Bills' field house.

"[The outfield fence] doesn't look that far from the plate here," Evans said from the seats. "But go back there [in the outfield] and look up here, well, that's when it looks far."

How would Edwards evaluate Evans' "swing"?

"Don't listen to what I say right now," Edwards called to his teammate. "It was a solid swing. I was happy he made contact. He's obviously not on the quarterback level and receivers are a different breed. Quarterbacks are good at golf, baseball, football. Lee has some distance to travel."

The BP swings were just the start of a whirlwind night. Both players appeared on the Jumbotron urging on Jays fans in several spots taped prior to the game.

Edwards threw a ceremonial first pitch (in the dirt to Jays outfielder Vernon Wells), appeared on the Jays' radio broadcast and joined a couple of Jills on the Jumbotron for a between-innings trivia question asking the opponent for the Dec. 3 game here (it's the New York Jets).

Evans, meanwhile, served as PA announcer in the bottom of the third, although he called Jays catcher Rod Barajas the center fielder. He made up for it with an extended call of "Johnnnnnny Mac" when introducing ex-Bison John McDonald.

Prior to the game, they visited the Blue Jays clubhouse. Edwards joked he was going to scratch out somebody in the lineup and serve as the designated hitter.

Originally Posted by scottyboy
my lord...I cannot imagine such a world where I can mention Raymell Rice's thighs around a girl and not be the only one sexually aroused

But for everyone reading this in Buffalo and Cleveland and everywhere else, take solace in the following: As crazy as it sounds, you're lucky. Your Mount Everest experience is still ahead of you. It's waiting, and it's glorious.- Bill Simmons

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The reality for Buffalo is that we lost the whole left side of our OL in both Dockery and Peters and this will prove to be very significant this coming season. The pass protection on the left side will be very suspect limiting both our passing ability and out running ability. Our offense has taken a huge step backward and it is very doubtful that we can contend for a playoff position. 7 wins could now be hard to match.

And proud of it!!!

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The reality for Buffalo is that we lost the whole left side of our OL in both Dockery and Peters and this will prove to be very significant this coming season. The pass protection on the left side will be very suspect limiting both our passing ability and out running ability. Our offense has taken a huge step backward and it is very doubtful that we can contend for a playoff position. 7 wins could now be hard to match.

I think it is unfair to say that our offense as a whole has taken a step backward. Sure the OL looks worse, although I think the interior play will be better. However, the addition of TO and Shawn Nelson adds soooo many new options for Trent. Not to mention that Josh Reed can be one of the best slots in the NFL.

When I eat, it is the food that is scared.

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It's pretty bad that nobody knows if both of our tackles can play their current positions effectively. Bad tackles and little help from the TE is not going to be good for our goal of keeping Trent healthy for once.

But like Rob said, you have to like Trent's options. Evans, Owens, and Reed is a great top 3. Nelson is a dynamite pass catcher. Roscoe is still around for whatever way we may want to use him. Stevie is as solid as you can ask for in a #4/5. The RB were big in the passing game, and more time for Freddy only improves what we get out of that. If Schouman can get any time out of the backfield, I like what he can do out of it. That's right, my excitement for our receivers goes all the way down to Derek Schouman. We can comfortably let Hardy take another learning year and hope he can be a big part of our offense by the time TO is out of here.

Nobody can feel all that comfortable with unreliable bookends, but it's hard to not be at least a little excited for the flash element of our offense. We just need to hope that the expected weaknesses allow us to get enough use out of it.

Originally Posted by scottyboy
my lord...I cannot imagine such a world where I can mention Raymell Rice's thighs around a girl and not be the only one sexually aroused

But for everyone reading this in Buffalo and Cleveland and everywhere else, take solace in the following: As crazy as it sounds, you're lucky. Your Mount Everest experience is still ahead of you. It's waiting, and it's glorious.- Bill Simmons

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I think it is unfair to say that our offense as a whole has taken a step backward. Sure the OL looks worse, although I think the interior play will be better. However, the addition of TO and Shawn Nelson adds soooo many new options for Trent. Not to mention that Josh Reed can be one of the best slots in the NFL.

No matter what you may hope for, a QB needs a solid OL to take advantage of his weapons because you won't get far if your QB is laying face up after each passing play.
Facts, we lost our whole left side of the OL, the part where protecting the QB is crucial. Teams simply NEVER trade or allow their LT's to leave the team, they are just way too hard to find. You'll never see a top one in FA until they are considered way over the hill either through injuries or old age. Teams, even the worst of them in the NFL, pay their LT' rather than risk losing them.
Sure, replacing Dockery will be difficult but OG's are really a dime a dozen except for the few special ones, so replacing him isn't earth shattering. However, replacing you LT as well is earth shattering. Even the rookie who replaces Dockery will struggle tremendously without a solid LT beside him.
You think the Eagles could believe their luck when they discovered that Peters was actually available for very little. It just never happens in the NFL.
Lost in this is also the fact that a happy Peters is one of the best run blocking LT's in the NFL as was Dockery. This loss of talent won't just derail our pass protection, it is going to decimate our running attack as well.
No wonder we signed TO, he is just the distraction to make fans forget how much we lost in Peters and Dockery and to keep the fans buying tickets before they realize just how weak this team suddenly got on offense.
The net effect of losing Peters is that we moved from being a solid playoff contender to just another team trying to stay out of last place. No wonder Levy moved on as he must have realized that Wilson simply wouldn't pay Peters his due and what it would mean for his efforts to rebuild the Bills.

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Today, I informed Ellis "The Sex" Lankster of his nickname here on SWDC!

How did you do that?
And how did he earn that nickname?

Originally Posted by scottyboy
my lord...I cannot imagine such a world where I can mention Raymell Rice's thighs around a girl and not be the only one sexually aroused

But for everyone reading this in Buffalo and Cleveland and everywhere else, take solace in the following: As crazy as it sounds, you're lucky. Your Mount Everest experience is still ahead of you. It's waiting, and it's glorious.- Bill Simmons