As the world watches the Nairobi, Kenya mall attack unfold, the scariest thing (besides the violence and loss of innocent life), is the location. “It’s basically proxy warfare 101,” Kerry Patton, a national security commentator and terror analyst, told SiriusXM Patriot‘s Andrew Wilkow. “When you look at these soft targets, how easy would it be to do what they did in Kenya, that mall could have been any mall in America.”

Listen to the clip below, to hear how Wilkow and Patton worry this threat could manifest itself on American soil.