September 15, 2009

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House Rules Committee Chairwoman Louise Slaughter (D-NY) has released a helpful, updated primer for members regarding their conduct on the floor and in committees.

[Just to clarify: Even though I clearly wrote that it was the committee "primer' -- and not the rules themselves -- that were updated, I've gotten a bunch of emails from readers who think Slaughter and Co. actually revised the underlying regs. Not so. The document produced was merely a new guide of existing rules.]

Especially useful: The section on how to properly insult the executive branch in the in the chamber.

"Disgrace" and "nitwits" -- okay.

"Liar" or "sexual misconduct" -- ixnay.

Under section 370 of the House Rules and Manual it has been held that a Member could:

• refer to the government as “something hated, something oppressive.”
• refer to the President as “using legislative or judicial pork.”
• refer to a Presidential message as a “disgrace to the country.”
• refer to unnamed officials as “our half-baked nitwits handling foreign affairs.”

Likewise, it has been held that a member could not:

• call the president a “liar.”
• call the president a “hypocrite.”
• describe the president’s veto of a bill as “cowardly.”
• charge that the president has been “intellectually dishonest.”
• refer to the president as “giving aid and comfort to the enemy.”
• refer to alleged “sexual misconduct on the president’s part.”

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Washington, DC – The House Rules Committee today provided a summary of approved guidelines for all members to follow during floor debate. The Rules are approved by the entire House and are posted on the committee website. They can be found here:

Decorum in the House and in Committees

Under clause 1(a)(1) of Rule XI, the rules of the House are the rules of its committees as far as applicable. Consequently, Members should comport themselves with the rules of decorum and debate in the House and in Committees specifically with regard to references to the president of the United States as stated in Section 370 of the House Rules and Manual.

As stated in Cannon’s Precedents, on January 27, 1909, the House adopted a report in response to improper references in debate to the president. That report read in part as follows:

“It is... the duty of the House to require its Members in speech or debate to preserve that proper restraint which will permit the House to conduct its business in an orderly manner and without unnecessarily and unduly exciting animosity among its Members or antagonism from those other branches of the Government with which the House is correlated.”

As a guide for debate, it is permissible in debate to challenge the president on matters of policy. The difference is one between political criticism and personally offensive criticism. For example, a Member may assert in debate that an incumbent president is not worthy of re-election, but in doing so should not allude to personal misconduct. By extension, a Member may assert in debate that the House should conduct an inquiry, or that a president should not remain in office.

Under section 370 of the House Rules and Manual it has been held that a Member could:

However, the Senate rules on decorum and debate do not prohibit personal references to the President. Senate Rule XIX governing decorum and debate is applied only to fellow senators and “does not extend to the president, the vice president, or administration officials and a senator cannot be called to order under rule XIX for comments or remarks about them...” (Senate Procedure, p. 741). The Senate rules also provide that Jefferson’s Manual is not part of the Senate rules (Ibid, p.754).

By contrast, the rules of the House specifically provide that Jefferson’s Manual does govern the proceedings of the House where applicable (Clause 1 of Rule XXVIII). Section 370 of Jefferson’s Manual states that the rule in Parliament prohibiting members from “speak{ing} irreverently or seditiously against the King” has been interpreted to prohibit personal references against the president. In addition, speakers of the House have consistently reiterated, and the House has voted, to support the proposition that it is not in order in debate to engage in personalities toward the president. The chair enforces this rule of decorum on his own initiative.
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the word "foo" would be more than adequate to summarize the crux of BHO.
sumbish ...a very anti racist term...would also work admirably well
tragically flawed...comes to mind,
could one possibly refer to BHO as confused?

As stupid as this seems right now, just wait until a Republican gets the white house and Dems keep the House. The list will be repealed and the preferred salutation for POTUS will be "The National Liar, the Intellectually Dishonest Dirtbag, the President of the United States."
Perhaps cpngress needs an enema to get all the Intellectually Dishonest Liars out of office.
'nuff said

While everyone is mentioning all the names W. was called, let's not forget former Vice President Dick Cheney's use of the "f" word on the Senate floor while acting as President Pro Tempore of the Senate and directing said word at a United States Senator. Just in case everyone has forgotten that little shining jem of up-standing history.

Or you'll have to get your mouth washed out with soap and stand in the corner. Kindergarten 101......THROW EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE TAXPAYER MONEY WASTING, HOLIER THAN THOU, ROTTEN STINKING, PIECE OF CRAP INCUMBENTS OUT!
All of them, no exceptions!!!!!

This really isn't about whether anyone is actually lying or not - this is about the Congress of the United States of America, Land of the Free, Home of the Brave and Beacon of Free Speech. Free speech applies to members of Congress and those members have the right to say anything they want. Decorum not withstanding and short of expletives, they should be able to do just that. What are they going to do anyway to enforce this - ban someone from the Senate dining room? Take away his/her private gym membership? What a bunch of clowns!

How abou cheat, con artist, deceiver. Or what about deluder, dissimulator, equivocator, fabler, and fabricator. Can they use fabulist, false witness, falsifier, fibber, maligner, or misleader. And will they get in the dog house if they use perjurer, phony, prevaricator, storyteller, trickster or my favorite, PINOCCHIO?

Come on...the House does not have a rule against the actual behavior...Lying is constant. The rule doesn't say they cannot do it, just that they cannot talk abut it...
It is amusing that the issue is not the actual lies by the President but the naming of the behavior...

now that Obama is president, congress wants to oppress free expression?!!
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

How abou cheat, con artist, deceiver. Or what about deluder, dissimulator, equivocator, fabler, and fabricator. Can they use fabulist, false witness, falsifier, fibber, maligner, or misleader. And will they get in the dog house if they use perjurer, phony, prevaricator, storyteller, trickster or my favorite, PINOCCHIO?

Perhaps comments can be registered by saying "I can't call the President a Liar, so I won't." Or even " would have thought that such commentary by the President should be called Intellectually Dishonest, but it would be against House rules to say so ... so I won't."
There are multiple ways to hit beliw the belt and still stay within the dictates of Her Royal Highness, Queen Nancy of Pelosi.

How do you suppose Etienne de la Boetie knew all about Barack Obama over 450 years ago? See below:
* The only power tyrants have is the power relinquished to them by their victims.
* The tyrant is often a weak little man. He has no special qualities that set him apart from anyone else - yet the gullible idolize him.
* The victims bring about their own subjection - the "win their enslavement."
* If without violence the tyrant is simply not obeyed, he becomes "naked and undone and as nothing."
* Once you resolve to serve no more, you are free.
* We are all born free and naturally free.
* Grown-up adults should adopt reason as their guide and never become slaves of anybody.
* People can be enslaved through either force or deception.
* When people lose their freedom through deceipt, it is because they mislead themselves.
* People born into slavery regard it as a natural condition.
* In general, people are shaped more by their environment than by their natural capacities - if they allow it.
* Habit and custom are powerful forces that keep people enslaved.
* There are always some people who cannot be tamed, subjected, or enslaved. Even if freedom were to be entirely extinguished, these people would re-invent it.
* Lovers of freedom tend to be ineffective because they are not known to one another.
* People who lose their freedom also lose their valor (strength of mind, bravery).
* Among free people there is competition to do good for humanity.
* People seem to be most gullible towards those who deliberately set out to fool them. It is as if people have a need to be deceived.
* Tyrants stupefy their victims with "pastimes and vain pleasures flashed before their eyes."
* Tyrants parade like "workers of magic."
* Tyrants can only give back part of what they first took from their victims.
* Tyrants attain their positions through: (a) Force; (b) Birth; or (c) Election.
* Tyrants create a power structure, consisting of a multi-layered hierarchy, staffed by a conspiracy of accomplices. Accomplices receive their positions as a favor from the tyrant.
* The worst dregs of society gather around the tyrant - they are people of weak character who trade servility for unearned wealth.
* Accomplices can profit greatly from their positions in the hierarchy.
* If people withdraw their support, the tyrant topples over from his own corrupted weight.

What is this? This is just handing crap over to the execuative branch! I think we should all have freedom of speech, that includes people in the white house. This is a farce! How can something like this be passing in America? The Republicans got us in a war and the Democrats seem determined to start one here at home.... How far is too far?

How about cheat, con artist, deceiver. Or what about deluder, dissimulator, equivocator, fabler, and fabricator. Can they use fabulist, false witness, falsifier, fibber, maligner, or misleader. And will they get in the dog house if they use perjurer, phony, prevaricator, storyteller, trickster or my favorite, PINOCCHIO?

Rep Joe Wilson stated what everyone knows in their heart to be true. Even the libs who support Obama know he lied but they just don't care. It's about the power. Time for a coup. Obama is so friggin damgerous and with the support of communists like Reid and Pelosi - not to mention the pandering left wing media - we are at a serious juncture. No one has been more wreckless (Not even George W) in the history of government. Obama is nothing more than a clothed parrot with no substance exit of course his ability to read a teleprompter.

What a bunch of ?lying," ?hypocritical,? ?cowardly,? ?intellectually dishonest,? morons - by their virtual existence are ?giving aid and comfort to the enemy? and will continue to get caught up in some sort of ?sexual misconduct" with or without the president. Can I say all that without break the law. Throw em all out and start over!!!!!

Oooh! And ban 'racist' too! Lord knows we've heard THAT one bleated too many times.
And how about banning 'speech' and 'freedom' while you're at it? Also 'religion' and 'God'.
And just to top it off, how about banning the phrase 'out of context'? Let's see the Demorats try and give any speeches with THAT sequence of words forbidden...

I just hope that this lunacy does not make our future office holders think that the bar is lowered...Republicans have been pathetic, and now Democrats have reminded us why we took power from them in the 90's....Can we just vote NO on all of them?

This is almost comical. And this is from the people we are counting on to get our health care problems solved. From the same people we are counting on to guide us out of the economic mess we are in. From the same people we count on to finance and provide oversight for our military. I am getting more worried by the minute.

The House is full of lawyers, who are by trade semantics experts.
Joe said "You Lie" which is not the same as saying "You Liar."
This is effectively meaningless nonsense... ie typical DNC Congressional activity.

I say we should kick out ALL incumbents - Democrats AND Republicans and start over, with term limits. Congress has developed and arrogance that is truly mind boggling - especially when you consider that they are ELECTED to represent US.
Government of the people, for the people, IN SPITE OF the people should not be allowed to exist.

Apparently there is something to the whole sticks and stones thing when I thought that was like the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny - you grew out of thinking that way. Oh, you would have to be a grown up to grow out of that.
How is it those who are to protect the constitution cannot abide by it.
Next November 4th needs to be a giant episode of Survivor and we need to vote them all off the island!

Do the words," Congress shall make no law restricting political free speach...... Its called the First Amendment. Its amazing very view of the posters mention this. This is what the Constitution is for, even in the US House where morons run rampant. The only reason why liberals carry abridged versions of the pocket constitutions is to use it when the House bathrooms run out of butt wipe. Democraps following the Constitution? When hell freezes over! BTW, report my harsh language you pussies.

For the first time in my life I wish I was in the House of Representatives.
I would use all the banned words, whenever I deemed them appropriate to what I am saying. In particular, the word 'liar'.
Whatever sanctions against me I would fight in court to the end.
If I lose fthe full range of appeals, I will still continue to use those words, until they either throw me out of the House or put me in Jail
I will then run for Congressional office again and again. If I am convicted of a felony or other crime for using these words so as to disqualify me for office, I will appeal that disqualification in court to the highest levels
I will use the destruction of the right to free speech in the public assembly to mobilize already angry citizens
This is war on our one of our most cherished rights. Any victim of my words may sue me for slander or libel but this woman has no right to proscribe the use of the word 'liar' against anyone in public speech
This is tyranny and she is acting for tyrants. Louise Slaughter (D-NY) is a hypocrite, cowardly, intellectually dishonest, giving aid and comfort to the enemy by suppressing dissent.
This has to be fought, now

what a bunch of insane,cowardly, hypocritical liars ! I have never seen anything like this in my life! At least not in this country! I keep pinching myself but I just can't seem to wake-up from this funhouse nightmare!

Apparently there is something to the whole sticks and stones thing when I thought that was like the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny - you grew out of thinking that way. Oh, you would have to be a grown up to grow out of that.
How is it those who are to protect the constitution cannot abide by it.
Next November 4th needs to be a giant episode of Survivor and we need to vote them all off the island!

Apparently there is something to the whole sticks and stones thing when I thought that was like the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny - you grew out of thinking that way. Oh, you would have to be a grown up to grow out of that.
How is it those who are to protect the constitution cannot abide by it.
Next November 4th needs to be a giant episode of Survivor and we need to vote them all off the island!

This is the sorriest bunch of legislators we have seen in a long time. The next election needs to teach this group of losers what it is like to return to the real world and have a real job. And then we can send this communist president with them...

"The Chair enforces this rule of decorum on his own initiative"
In other words, if they like you the rules don't apply (such as calling Rep Wilson a racist), but if they don't like you the rules will be enforced as strictly as possible. To the victor belong the spoils. Logic and fairness do not apply.

Don't ya love it. In a time of economic crisis, this pack of weasles is legislating name calling. Princess Pelosi gets to decide who is out and who is in-kind of like the Queen Bee in middle school.
Why do we put up with this crap? Meanwhile, we are loosing jobs. My college graduate kids can't find jobs. My taxes are going to go up. My health insurance sure isn't going to cover what it did last year. Undoubtedly, I will pay more, and get less coverage-if I'm lucky. Otherwise I will be on some national program that decides when I need to give up the ghost.
Why is this acceptable? Why do we allow these people to conduct business like this? These are the same folks who can't be bothered to read a 1,000+ page bill that will control health care.
Come on America, wake up and get rid of these people while we still can.
Transparency -my booger eating Barney Frank ass!

Actually what they want is to declare off limits ALL speech which might point in any forceful way that The King has no clothes. They just haven't figured out how to shut the rest of us up (yet) so they take it out on the Congressman. ...But if the pigs are squealing this loudly, we must be sticking them in the right places, eh? Keep it up! The bubble will burst.

can i say the president is acting "stupidly"? if so, then i am saying it. if not, then hypothetically i am not saying it. and if someone says i said it, they lie! i mean lay!! point of pariliamentary procedure.....

...time to get rid of the lot of them. You must admit that the president has a knack for saying what it takes to get his initiatives through; then, the result is completely different, conforming to his true beliefs. What a bunch of useless, dispicable elitists.

Just keep pumping up the anger libs and watch what happens in 2010. You have awaked Americans from a slumber in a sea of illegals and misfits and they are outraged and it is building and the pressure is ready to explode.

This is exactly why many marched on Washington. Foolishness that I am paying for. If I came home from work and my wife asked "what did you do today?" "Oh I admonished a coworker for calling the owner a liar." - She said. "And that took all day?"

I don't get it. Isn't this the entire text of the resolution???:
"Whereas on September 9, 2009, during the joint session of Congress convened pursuant to House Concurrent Resolution 179, the President of the United States, speaking at the invitation of the House and Senate, had his remarks interrupted by the Representative from South Carolina, Mr. Wilson;
And Whereas the conduct of the Representative from South Carolina was a breach of decorum and degraded the proceedings of the joint session, to the discredit of the House: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That the House of Representatives disapproves of the behavior of the Representative from South Carolina, Mr. Wilson, during the joint session of Congress held on September 9, 2009."

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh life in the "Left Lane" with O-Stumble the not so Magnificent and of course the Keystone Cops, It reminds me a Line that I heard in a movie a while back it goes something like this "Fasten your seatbelts it's going to be a bumpy night" and brother I can't wait until 2010 and of course 2012 When the worlds largest ENEMA hits the beltway and cleans it out then WE THE PEOPLE can begin the process of rebuilding our country may we stay focused on the big picture and NEVER lose our passion and righteous anger remember our senators and representatives work for us and if they are not doing the job we sent them to Washington D.C. to do then they need to be FIRED! and replaced by somebody that will do the job! Remember this Quote from our 16th President Abraham Lincoln "We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." May God have mercy on us and help us to restore our country.

Can't wait till the 2010 commode flush of these floaters. It may take a plunger to get em down the trap but It's time to take back our country from these sick minded hypocrites. "Motto" The working class's taxes are the root of all democrats EVIL.

And this verbiage boundary helps America how??? Send them all home, lock the doors of the capital and move the 2010 elections to 12/31/09 for all seats. All future candidates are to be vetted for constitutional knowledge, intelligence and common sense.
DC is flooded with a "perfect storm" of idiots...doing more damage than good. This is the best they can do when citizens are suffering with the torture of uncertain futures?

I don't get it. Isn't this the entire text of the resolution???:
"Whereas on September 9, 2009, during the joint session of Congress convened pursuant to House Concurrent Resolution 179, the President of the United States, speaking at the invitation of the House and Senate, had his remarks interrupted by the Representative from South Carolina, Mr. Wilson;
And Whereas the conduct of the Representative from South Carolina was a breach of decorum and degraded the proceedings of the joint session, to the discredit of the House: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That the House of Representatives disapproves of the behavior of the Representative from South Carolina, Mr. Wilson, during the joint session of Congress held on September 9, 2009."

Wow, where were all of these rules when Pres. Bush was in office? Dems had no problem using this language to refer to him. Talk about calling a kettle here.
Is it me, or is this a bunch of well-dressed, well-funded kindergartners? No offense to those actually in kindergarten.

Oh my. They are nothing but immature children in our government! You can't ban free speech in America you morons. What the hell are they thinking? Tell me the Democratic party is not socialist. No offense to you true Democrats, but, it seems as though your party has been taken over by socialists. This is rediculously sad. What's happening to the Democratic party? LOL

I guess if I was a lying coward who gave aid and comfort to the enemy with nearly every vote I cast and was a hypocrit while I was in the Senate and Chris Matthews had sexual fantasies about me, I would pass these rules too.

"When words are no longer possible, then the only recourse is to draw your sword". Oliver Cromwell said that, just before the English Civil War where another tyrant and traitor (Charles I) was trying to turn England over to foreign governments and destroy the emerging British Middle Class. Charles thought he had a "divine" right. He was also executed for treason. I am not condoning it or suggesting that it should apply to anyone else, just sometimes events overtake men; men rarely shape events.

This man is a fountain of misinformation and lies
Folks, you saw it here, today: The Democrat-controlled Congress has now banned freedom of speech on the floor of the House!
You get what you vote for, folks!
Hope you're happy!
Change you can believe in!!!

The government needs to read the Constitution:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

He should have stuck by his comment this guy is destroying what is left of our country why should I pay the way for a bunch of bums why should this guy spend money as if it were his. This is no question it is a wake up to you.

Is this what we pay your sarary for? What a bunch of fools we have elected. You are a royal waste of the taxpayers time.
Were you insulted by Mr.Wilsons comments? Maybe we should elect people with thicker skins.

Be careful Americans. Glenn Beck is trying to introduce legislation that would cap peoples IQ's in the low 70's.
Joe Wilson is a member
Sons of Confederate Veterans, ....
This is an organization that, as the SPLC has detailed assiduously, has been taken over in the past decade by radical neo-Confederates who favor secession and defend slavery as a benign institution. Leading the takeover is a radical racist who's been an important legal figure on the far right for some years.

Both Mr. Thrush's post and most of the comments misinterpret the release from the Committee Chairwoman. Nothing new was created. The release only re-states what had been decided by previous committees in response to charges of inappropriate behavior by a House member.

So Nancy Pelosi can make public charges about the CIA, branding them liars, etc. without rebuke ? The other members of Congress can brand Americans as racist, low level terrorists when they are opposed. Where are those rebukes ?
Where's the rebuke of Charlie Rangel, Jefferson who hid the money in the freezer when he was first indicted, ?
I forgot. It's only Democrats who can boo as at Bush in 2005 during the State of the Union address.
These radicals are sickening.
Wilson may have been rude but it was his telling the truth for a change in Washington that enraged them.

It is amazing to see what those Democrats elected by the American voters do with their time! Do they really think that they are serving the country or the voters that elected them? They are all completely out of touch with the people of America! I think that it is obvious that we, as voters, need to wise up in who we elect to office.

The rules are now clear. Provericator, ******** Artist, and Chuck and giver is OK. How about Sexual misconduct "just not alledged" as in Barney Franks, and Clinton? Non-truth teller, along with Marxist, and non-Citizen, and Communistis OK? I guess this new rule is part of Obama's program of meaningful "accountability". Thank you Mr. Wilson for saying what we (almost) all can see, and know about Obama. Does this rule apply to Liberals, or just Conservatists. What do you now call a LIER that speaks out of both sides of his Mouth!!!

This is getting to be the norm in Washington!! Let's attack someone rather that do the work that they were HIRED to do!! EVERYONE IN WASHINGTON NEEDS TO GO!! To make this about RACE is way over the top!!!

Let's send all of these idiots packing. This is just way over the top. Joe Wilson was the only one who shouted out that the "Emperor has no clothes. ."
The rest of them just sit there and listen to lie after lie after lie. . . What a spineless bunch.

If we are going to march Members down to the well of the House to apologize, Joe Wilson is going to have to get in line behind Nancy Pelosi, who attacked the intelligence community who protects us, Charlie Rangel who cheated on his taxes, Jack Murtha ? a walking scandal, and we all know how the Democratic leadership tried to protect William Jefferson. Democrats don?t want an apology. They want a side show ? something to shift the focus away from their government-run experiment on health care.

What? Are my eyes failing me? How on earth do they get away with this bulloney?
Notice they clearly refer to Obama's critique, and of course Slick Willy's. Apparently corruption is fine, as long as you follow decorum!

This little show of Pelosi Power not only wasted more of the American taxpayers hard earned and easily squandered taxes but was a childish payback that had the name of Pelosi all over it.
This congress is the most lame, vindictive and petty group of morons under one roof. They should all be tried for treason and tarred and feathered.

I love the comments. Typical conservative responses. None of you actually clicked that link and read the information/facts. That resolution was passed in 1909! 100 years later and everyone is still acting like a baby.

Typical liberal strategy: Attack the words, attack free speech, attack free thought, and at the top of their list, attack AMERICA. If you dissent, you are a HATER, a RACIST, a NAZI, an UNRULY MOB. The Congressional Dems are so far out of touch with America, I hope they ALL are voted out of office in 2010.

Never really believed it until today, but people who post on Politico and read Drudge Report are ****ing nuts! You guys can't stand it that we have an african american president. Grow up america and stop making us a laughing stock to the whole world...idiots

We Americans can call them anything
we want to....the idiots Reid &
Pelosi 25%approval rating need to
resign and I am a democrat....the
President needs to resign...he has
no experience, and hasn't a clue
what he is doing ....it is really
pathetic....and he intends to take
us down...by time he leaves office
he wants us to be a third world
country

The really interesting thing to me is if these rules are changed and terms explicitly banned, the Liberal wing of the Democrat party will have to live under these same rules and are, by most accounts, bigger violators of these rules of decorum than the Republicans. The Liberals have never worried in the past because the Republicans don't have the cajones (at least up until now) to act/speak out against their behavior, lies and misdeeds.

Can't call him a liar? Okay, we'll just say, "The President of these United States is telling a lie."
What kind of girls do we have running Congress? The only forbidden words should be the seven bad words of the FCC; this is the USA, and we have freedom of speech. No one deserves to be treated as special or different; no one deserves any more or any less respect when it comes to political discourse. If the Democrats have become so sensitive and precious, then they should get the hell out.

These people do not represent us anymore. VOTE OUT EVERY INCUMBENT ON EVERY BALLOT FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE AND TRUE AMERICAN DEMOCRACY WILL RETURN!!! Keep believing these Liars and the LIAR IN CHIEF and America will cease to exist as we know it!
GOD help us All.

Wilson,it would seem,hit a nerve with his comment.Yelling liar in a roomful of Americas biggest liars probably made a lot of people sweat. Since the Dems struck down 2 resolutions requiring that you prove citizenship and would not know a citizen from a haitian Olympic swimmer,the comment carries much relevance.

As our elected officials, congressmen/women carry with them representation of OUR will, OUR opinion and our freedom of speech. Thus if we say the president is a LIAR we expect those representatives to transmit that message verbatim.

Well, technically he didn't actually call him a "liar", he said "You Lie!" From that one could infer that the president is a liar, but they aren't obligated to do so. So if the Dems inferred he was a liar from that, it may be just a guilty conscience. :^) If we could define "is" it might help.

With the likes of Pelosi and Reid and rangle and on and on and they have the audacity to point their hooves at a man that called someone that was telling lies a liar! Un-fricking believable. I promise you I CANNOT wait until the next election. Thought the dems might be better than the Republicans but I remember why they were thrown out enmasse in '94. Can't wait to do it again. The dems are so childish and petty. They make me want to puke.

Any true liberal would reject these attacks on free speech and defend Joe Wilson's right to say whatever he wants. Problem is that progressives are not liberals, they're Stalinists and clearly have no tolerance for dissent.

Excuse me, Congressmen & Senators do not give up First Amendment Rigths as a condition of Office. In fact, the first amendment applies specifically to speech that other do not support or care to hear (otherwised the amednment would be meaningless). If I were Joe, I think I'd bring a case against the socialist liberals of the house.

This is almost to funny! The 545 Idiots (why leave out the Senate) have once again surpassed their level of Hypocracy! Is it too late to bring back duels on the National Mall? This would make great entertainment for the People while serving teh public good! Perhaps they could flog each other to death with wet dollar bills!

This is what these dopes are doing instead of finding wasteful government programs to slash so that our taxes can go down? They all need to be fired. Can't wait to kick their sorry butts to the curb in the next election.

LOL. The Democrats just ensured that this guy gets re-elected in a landslide; I bet donations to his political campaign are gonna start flying in even faster now.
Oh and where were these self righteous idiots when Bush was getting booed by both houses of Congress? Oh, right. They were the ones booing, so it was okay to have an utter lack of decorum in that instance.

Of course, it's fine for the Head Nanny What's In Charge to accuse others of lying in his speech. As long as it's the Head Nanny What's In Charge doin' the speechin', and not some Honky Republican. Putrid stench of filthy maggot swill.

You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth. As they say in Texas. I?ll bet you couldn?t pour !@#$ out of a boot with instructions on the heel. You are a canker. A sore that won?t go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you.
You?re a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.
You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done.
I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformation. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell?

Obama and the Dems have studied their mentors well. Marx, Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Chavez, Castro, etc.....
Next time there is a 2 million man march on Washington, better hope they don't bring their "2nd amendment rights" with them!

However "Nazi" must be OK, as is "racist" but not unflattering phrases such as "war on terror". Long live freedom of speech (and a microcosm of its likely future) in the new personality cult era of President "Jim Jones" Obama!

So, let me see...the news tally (for today alone, mind you) stands thusly: 1) the House continues pursuing a lone member, for a lone comment, days after he's dealt with it and moved on, simply because he shouted a comment to their High Priest of Political Correctness. A liberal black Georgia Congressman (no doubt representing some inner-city district, somewhere) actually said that he thinks Congressman Wilson's outburst heralds the return of the KKK, riding on horseback through the countryside. This man is either completely stupid, or he's knowingly deceptive, thinking he has political cover to get away with such remarks. Calling this whole ?Wilson thing simply an 'overreaction' would be like responding to a wildfire with a squirt gun.
2) Meanwhile, a white kid on an Illinois school bus (isn't that Obama country?) gets beat up by black kids -- on video camera in front of the whole country -- only to have the sherriff backtrack later on and say that it WASN'T racially motivated (though can you imagine the stink that would have been raised if this incident had been the reverse?).
3) A black Reverend is going after a school superintendent in California, because he refused to air Obama's speech (yes, they're even still trying to milk that issue for all it's worth). Liberal blacks packed out the meeting, and cheered as the superintendent's head was called for. Of course, they'd have been howling bloody murder, if their kids had had to listen to GWB...
Ah, yes...the 'post-racial' world of Barack Hussein Obama. Of course, in keeping with the insane and inflamatory mindset, I'm sure his supporters will blame all of this on whites, as well. It's turned out just exactly as I thought it would, and as many others predicted (and it was pretty EASY to predict): Any criticism of Obama is cast as racist, while at the same time certain blacks are suddenly getting all cocky and arrogant, and feeling empowered and emboldened to go after whitey, and to practice the very thing they accuse whitey of doing (blatant racism), and all because they think they have their guy Obama backing them up (which his Prof. Gates comments confirmed). These blacks and white-guilt liberals truly seem oblivious to how angry they are making the rest of the country with this kind of ridiculous behavior. Whites are still the majority in this nation, and blacks cannot accomplish anything politically, on the national level, without them. Obama is half-white, was raised by whites, and was voted in by whites. They can vote him out again, too. If anyone is taking this country to the brink of cultural war, it is the left, not the right.

It seems their is so much the congress could be doing that they are not or have not for the last nearly nine years. Although eight +/- of those was a different administration with different priorities. Namely seeing to it that the friends of the administration profited from and unjust war of choice. The congress during that time found to be their business to interfere in the choices of the husband of Terry Chaivo; seems their was so much more they could have been doing.

Posted By: Not a Braindead Republican | September 15, 2009 at 06:29 PM

It is getting more and more like Venezuela here. A couple of years after Chavez took over, they passed a law making it a criminal offense to make statements "offensive to the presidency" with a punishment of up to 25 years in prison. As soon as that became law, they went after a famous journalist and critic of Chavez who worked for the Globovision network - basically Venezuela's version of Bill O'Reilly and Fox, respectively.
Now OUR congress is making rules about what you can and can't say to or about the president? Am I alone in noting how dangerous this is? We need to clean out this congress and fast. Nancy Pelosi should be reduced to selling beads at the corner of Haight and Ashbury!!

You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile one-handed slack-jawed drooling meat slapper. On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go.
You smarmy lager lout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock. You grotty wanking oink artless base-court apple-john. You clouted boggish foot-licking twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You gormless crook-pated tosser. You churlish boil-brained clotpole ponce. You cockered bum-bailey
poofter. You craven dewberry ****head cockup pratting naff. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill.

Comrade Committee Chairwoman Slaughter, please to read statement of favorite U.S.A. comrade from long ago that Comrade General Secretary Obama refers to much. Thomas Jefferson said, "If a book be false in its facts, disprove them; if false in its reasoning, refute it. But for God's sake, let us freely hear both sides if we choose." Comrade we chose to hear both sides.

Few are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital quality for those who seek to change a world that yields most painfully to change. And I believe that in this generation those with the courage to enter the moral conflict will find themselves with companions in every corner of the globe.
Robert F Kennedy
Thank you Joe Wilson for being that brave man willing to voice our disapproval and objections.

LMAO!!! Is this for real???????
Ok, can we call Obama morally bankrupt?? How about intellectually challenged? Morally challenged???
How about, House Rules Committee Chairwoman Louise Slaughter and her committee are lame idiots and THIS IS AMERICA STILL, NOT THE UNITED SOCIAL STATES OF OBAMA!!!

Let's look at a couple of things dingy harry reid said about President Bush. (from the washington post of all places)
"The man's father is a wonderful human being," Reid said in response to a question about Bush's policies. "I think this guy is a loser." and "Two weeks ago, Reid essentially called Bush a liar when...".
I guess it's OK for the childish petty dumbocrats to do it but if anyone from the other side calls a spade a spade then look out because the wrath of the mental midgets is even beyond a 2 year old's temper tantrum!

The best way to get the demoRATS out is to support conservative Republicans or Independants - - Joe received over $1 Mil in contributions to his election campaign after representing those who voted for him, when he let obama know what his constituents wanted to say to the "prez" and that is that obama is a "LIAR"

Ouch! The TRUTH hurts! Our imperfect country has voted these liers enough rope to hang themselves. Hang high liberals hang high! the higher you put yourselves the farther you will fall. We have a wonderful God given governmental system. Pride comes before the Faaaaaaalllllllllllll*

refer to alleged ?sexual misconduct on the President?s part.?... Forget Clinton... is something about to come out? Why would they put this in now? it seems so specific that makes me wonder if BO has a chubby intern on the side...

"Oh...excuse me, dear Leader...but your notes must have be carelessly prepared by someone else...without the knowledge of the true facts of the bill. Clearly, having spent time carefully reading the bill, I can see that illegal aliens are going to be able to have their healthcare paid for by this reform insurance, in as much as the bill is silent about them as well as silent about paying for abortions, leaving the interpretation out of the hands of elected officials and in the hands of activist Judges and bureaucrats. That is surely what you mean, coupled with the fact that it would be impossible to prevent illegal aliens from entering into the government paid insurance as there is no identification system in place to prevent it, and the Democrats have voted to not allow any such ID program to be created. I appologize if these true fact are an interruption...but in the support of your commitment to truth and transparency of government, I just wanted to be a helpmate." Thank you. Rep. Joe Wilson

see, this is how you do it, republicans: the democrats viciously smeared bush for eight years and you never once moved to censure them; hell, you never moved to censure durbin or dodd or reid or pelosi for any of their comments. At what point do you summon up the guts to actually fight fire with fire? Stop trying to be a bunch of useful idiots like the hare-brained John McCain and start trying to be american servants.
btw, its not surprising a woman introduced a "primer" on right conduct, is it? After all, which gender pushed the hardest for speech codes (and political correctness) in our universities? Eventually, you won't be able to say anything "offensive" about any politician in power - no matter how much of a miscreant he or she is. More proof, if any is needed, that this president is supposed to be beyond reproach simply because he's black, the jews voted for him, and he is the "chosen one"

"refer to sexual misconducts of presidents," sounds like the hypocritical Democrats are writing the rules to exempt every vile deed they do. The next thing you know they will add "shall not refer to the tax cheating perpetrated by Charlie Rangel."

There's our democratic house for you. Spending all that time on something simple for a political grudge. Where were they when Bush was called a liar, and misleading our country. Oh,I forgot, they were the ones calling him a liar. read Maureen Dowd: is she a racist? at http://cooperscopy.blogspot.com/

Pathetic! Rep. Wilson lost his patience and apologized to the President but was Rep. Wilson correct in the topic of his outburst? Yes! Funny that the Senate is working right now on clarifying the issue of illegals getting into the health care system. The President should not stand before Congress and the people and make statements that are not 100% accurate. Another erroneous statement that President Obama keeps making is that you can keep your insurance under this plan. Check out factcheck.org..........he is wrong. He cannot make that guarantee.

This must be some kind of joke! HOW ABOUT INVESTIGATING ACORN! Nope its the Dem Party at its finest. What a waste of time and money for a worthless point that Obama is a liar. If universal health care passes or not, AMNESTY is next on the liberal agenda so YES he's a GOOD LIAR and yes a mute point. The Dems and Rep are worthless but the Dem party takes the cake. The Dems are truely useless, worthless, and empty with nothing to offer the American "tax paying" people. Although if you're not a tax payer and, you like that gov check on the 1st and 15th, then they're the for party you. Whoever voted or votes for this clownish childish party and still supports them, then you should be sent away to a hospital for a head examination.
See what you've did MR. BUSH in your 8 years you've slit your party in half, double the deficit, put us into a war and all from your doings. From your collateral damage, now we have the Dems running this country like a train wreck.
Go Independent third party or Ron Paul.

I take care of illegal immigrants in the hospital every day!! NOBODY, I mean NOBODY does anything about it. If Obama is not lying, then he is STUPID. Get a grip, illegals go to the ER and they are cared for as well as you or I.

Has Harry Reid EVER apologized for calling Pres Bush a LIAR?
NO!!!!.......asked if he would, NEVER!.
During the 2005 State of the Union address.....Bush was Cat Called, and heckled, Boo'd, by the Dems....
anyone ever apologize for that?.
No...............never.
The President either DID LIE, or he has not read the Bill he has been espousing..........
PERIOD.
So which is it................
Mountain of a mole hill.
Send the Democratic Senators &Congress to the UK Parliment, and see if their TENDE FEEELINGS would stand up.
Big babies.

...and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.
Which is quite different then in the Parliament of our mother country... where the insult may be shouted across the room but it must be biting and contain a high degree of cunning and wit to be acceptable.

How about "The emporer has no clothes"? Is that okay? Commisar Pelosi said that about GW, so it must be all good!
The "Chosen One" called Kanye a "jackass". Is that approved language Thought-Speak Louise?
Welcome to the era of Big Brother. Tell us how to think and feel Keith and Chris. We adore you and worship Dear Leader.

Did Monica Lewinski "disrespect the office of the President of the United States" by crawling around on her knees holding a cigar between her thighs...or would that just be ok as long as she didn't say anything MEAN or BAD about the President himself. Maybe if Joe Wilson had had a sucker in his mouth he would not have shouted out in the Congress like he did. Sure would have been interesting if the Congress declared Bill Clinton's actions against the National Respect Rules.

The IDIOT DEMS house is beginning to fall because of overpowering CORRUPTION from their beloved ACORN/SEIU vote getting thugs, and they are too busy trying to embarrass an opponent because he called the President a Liar, simply because the President WAS MISREPRESENTING REALITY!!! Wow, we will ber writing your OBIT very soon, MORONS!

And meanwhile it is okay by HOYER-PELOSI-WAXMAN-MARKEY cabal for a member of congress to cheat on his tax return, abscond taxes owed, under report or what ever...as in Charley, the crook, Rangel, Chairman of the most powerful committee in congress. I bloody disgrace.

So, they are allowed to vote on a 1,000-page bill they haven't read, but they are prohibited from asserting that any president is "intellectually dishonest". Time to amend the Constitution to add term limits, and to forbid them from lobbying when they leave Congress.

So they pass a code of conduct, and punish someone who stated something before that code of conduct was approved.
There is not one person currently in public office that I have voted for. That is what I get for living in the SFO bay area...
And most of my co-workers think this is a good thing!?!

The HOUSE is demanding respect?? The HOUSE is censuring Wilson? Those mealy mouthed liars and hypocrites who booed and hissed Bush at his State of the Union Speech should be ashamed of themselves. Ha like THAT would ever happen!

refer to alleged ?sexual misconduct on the President?s part.?... Forget Clinton... is something about to come out? Why would they put this in now? it seems so specific that makes me wonder if BO has a chubby intern on the side...
Posted By: Itamike | September 15, 2009 at 06:35 PM
WELL, ITAMIKE...Since Clinton did not have SEX with that woman, Ms. Lewinski, and it all depends on what the definition of "is" is...then maybe you have to say something like...."the president enjoyed too many cigars in the oval office last week...leaving spots all over the carpet and stopping up the gold toilet fixture."

Mr. Obama, Ms. Pelosi, Mr. Reid:
YOU LIE!!! Censoring us or censuring us will never change that fact. It is your nature to lie. You are liars. So much for civility when our founding principles are on the line.