That reminds me... I meant to post about some irony I saw the other day while riding down the road. I saw a billboard to vaccinate your children for the flu and the very next billboard was a sign stating that 1:100 children will developed autism. Oh the irony....

i don't understand why they would just give out "free" flu shots. it doesn't make sense. give us free medicine, then they lose money because we don't get sick because we got the shot... not buying it. something's fishy.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27532207

You don't get sick from a Flu vaccine. What you feel, the aches, lethargy, and mild fever, is the bodies normal defense mechanisms kicking in when it recognizes a foreign body with the "look" of the Flu virus. Your body responds to this foreign body with raising its core temperature (by means of muscle movement [shivvering] and increase in metabolic processes) and increased mucous secretion/production (runny nose, stuffyness, coughing).

It is cheaper to immunize a country for free than it is to handle a pandemic. We learned this after the 1918 Flu pandemic.

You all need a crash course in how vaccinations and immunity work. Not often will I say this, but I am reading nothing but absolute ignorance in this thread.

There are reasons Autism is not diagnosed until 2-3 years old, it has to do with how the brain developes, and ironically at this certain stage in brain developement when we see a majority of these abnormal neurological developments occur, is when the body's immune system is able to handle the task of making antibodies against virus and bacteria, or any foreign body of that matter. Immunity is learned. And the only way you can "teach" the body to recognize and defend itself against these foreign bodies is to host a "meet and greet" by means of immunization.

Now, talking about Flouride and water treatment is a whole other discussion. I do believe that pesticides, genetic and chemical treatments of our foods is harming the population in more ways than one.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25342235

I'm sorry but i don't believe it, just because you have some random link its true?

What happens if you're wrong? What happens if someone listens to you and doesn't get their children vaccinated? What happens if their kids get sick because of it?

75% of american children are immunized and 1% of children have autism, if immunizations caused autism wouldn't there be more children with it?

The rate of autism has risen in the last 20 years, that is because 20 years ago if a kid kept to themselves and were very quiet they were shy - now they have autism.

I have strong opinions on this because i know a lady who didn't get her son vaccinated. When he was 8 months old he got whopping cough, he passed away. She regrets the decision not to vaccinate.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26532270

Not just some random link. Thousands of hours of reading books by doctors who speak out against vaccines. Hundreds of hours of listening to live webinars given by doctors who speak out against the vaccine issue. Hours of traveling to seminars that are given on the vaccine issue.

Ignorance is bliss. Tell that to your M.D. next time you are laying in an ICU bed, inside a negative pressure isolation room, suffering from a Flu strain identified 60 years ago. But since you were never exposed to that strain or any other (through vaccination as a child), your body could not find the correct weaponary in time (white blood cells), and you are fighting a losing battle.

You all need a crash course in how vaccinations and immunity work. Not often will I say this, but I am reading nothing but absolute ignorance in this thread.

There are reasons Autism is not diagnosed until 2-3 years old, it has to do with how the brain developes, and ironically at this certain stage in brain developement when we see a majority of these abnormal neurological developments occur, is when the body's immune system is able to handle the task of making antibodies against virus and bacteria, or any foreign body of that matter. Immunity is learned. And the only way you can "teach" the body to recognize and defend itself against these foreign bodies is to host a "meet and greet" by means of immunization.

Now, talking about Flouride and water treatment is a whole other discussion. I do believe that pesticides, genetic and chemical treatments of our foods is harming the population in more ways than one.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25342235

I'm sorry but i don't believe it, just because you have some random link its true?

What happens if you're wrong? What happens if someone listens to you and doesn't get their children vaccinated? What happens if their kids get sick because of it?

75% of american children are immunized and 1% of children have autism, if immunizations caused autism wouldn't there be more children with it?

The rate of autism has risen in the last 20 years, that is because 20 years ago if a kid kept to themselves and were very quiet they were shy - now they have autism.

I have strong opinions on this because i know a lady who didn't get her son vaccinated. When he was 8 months old he got whopping cough, he passed away. She regrets the decision not to vaccinate.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26532270

Not just some random link. Thousands of hours of reading books by doctors who speak out against vaccines. Hundreds of hours of listening to live webinars given by doctors who speak out against the vaccine issue. Hours of traveling to seminars that are given on the vaccine issue.

Years (20+) of reading info on the net plus other sources.

Here are some links to doctors who speak against vaccines -

homefirst.com

drtenpenny.com

exemptmychild.com

gordonresearch.com

illnessexplained.com

Another independent researcher -

childhoodshots.com

illnessexplained.com

Quoting: mopar28m

So i went to 3 of those website you gave. How amazing that these "experts" are selling dvds and books. Are they giving you valuable information, or are they just trying to make money?

If a human bodies neuroligical system isn't fully developed until around 8 years old.

Wouldn't it stand to reason that any minute amount of known neurotoxic would have an adverse reaction to said developing neuroligical system?

If vaccines are safe for the general population and prevent disease, then why is it that immunilogical compromised persons are advised not to go near anyone who has recently vaccinated for fear that they will get the disease that they were vaccinated from?

If a human bodies neuroligical system isn't fully developed until around 8 years old.

Wouldn't it stand to reason that any minute amount of known neurotoxic would have an adverse reaction to said developing neuroligical system?

If vaccines are safe for the general population and prevent disease, then why is it that immunilogical compromised persons are advised not to go near anyone who has recently vaccinated for fear that they will get the disease that they were vaccinated from?

How many vaccinated people are out there spreading disease?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13076957

Why is it each vaccine has a hazard tax attached to it?

Why is it that vaccine producers are immune to lawsuits of vaccine injured children or their children died after getting a vaccine?

I'm glad this information is getting out. One of my coworkers was actually excited to shoot up her daughter last year with the flu vaccine. Half a year later she's being tested for autism.

Quoting: black calx

My son was diagnosed with autism at 2 1/2 years old. I first noticed the change in him after the MMR shot. There is no one who can convince me that the MMR is safe. After his diagnosis in 1997, I read all that I could on autism and its causes. I started decreasing milk and bread, increasing garlic and other natural chelating herbs. I continued this for years, and he improved. He is classified as Aspergers, but has never needed any modifications. Today, my son is 17 years old and doing well. He has some communication difficulties, particularly with social cues, but his mind is phenomenal. He is a math and science wiz and will graduate in the top 10% of his class in June 2013. Tell your co-worker not to give up hope if her daughter is autistic...there are many things that can help.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21693592

good for you for not giving up. I had a boy in one of my preschool classrooms that was diagnosed with Aspergers. He was one of the brightest children I had ever met. I wish more parents would try the diet route even if its in conjunction with meds.

For anyone else looking at diet mods for autism or really any other issue please look at dyes in your foods.

Guenwyfar

"Karma is like a rubberband.. it can only stretch so far before it comes back and smacks you in the face."

"Women who seek to be equal with men lack ambition."

"Religion is like a penis, it's fine to have one and be proud of it, but when you take it out and wave it in my face, that's when we have a problem."

Ignorance is bliss. Tell that to your M.D. next time you are laying in an ICU bed, inside a negative pressure isolation room, suffering from a Flu strain identified 60 years ago. But since you were never exposed to that strain or any other (through vaccination as a child), your body could not find the correct weaponary in time (white blood cells), and you are fighting a losing battle.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25342235

You're not as smart as you think you are.

Now, why do we need vaccines after being on this earth for 200,000 years?

Thanks for posting this. I'm so fucking pissed right now. I let the pediatrician convince me that the vaccines were safe and got most of them for my daughter. I cringe.

Quoting: cowardlyMe 20395699

For one, you are not the first parent tricked by MDs. Second, it's not too late, there is one method that can remove the vaccines from the body for good. Go see a homeopath in your town and ask him to do that. It worked for me, my family and many other kids and adults.

We have two kids. The first had 3 rounds of vaccines, we stopped them just before he was 4. The second has never had a vaccine.

Without a doubt our non-vaccinated child is much less trouble, hardly ever gets sick (or recovers in a day or two while other family members take weeks), and seems more intelligent and confident.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2815100

What a gross thing to say about your kids

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23672957

What is gross here? The FACT that the unvaccinated kid is more healthy then the other one, and if the parents knew they wouldn't vaccinate the first one? Is anybody thinking strait here?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1601759

Well she is pretty much saying one kid is better then the other.. Not really a nice thing to say, and something i would never say about my kids.Both my boys are vaccinated and they are both healthy. When they get the flu one of my sons usually gets sicker then the other, just the way he is, nothing to do with vaccines.

Ignorance is bliss. Tell that to your M.D. next time you are laying in an ICU bed, inside a negative pressure isolation room, suffering from a Flu strain identified 60 years ago. But since you were never exposed to that strain or any other (through vaccination as a child), your body could not find the correct weaponary in time (white blood cells), and you are fighting a losing battle.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25342235

How often is the yearly flu correctly identified and put into that year's vaccine?

How often is the yearly flu the same as any previous one, even as old as 60 years ago? And, are 60 years' worth of flu strains included in each shot? (Hint: no.)

It's got to be the right flu strain, otherwise the vaccine is worthless. And endless "alerting" your immune system into giving half responses seems to weaken the response when the real thing arrives. Crying wolf and all that.

That's aside from the poisons in the shots, whether they are aluminum, thimeroaal (mercury) or something else for the given shot.

Ignorance is bliss. Tell that to your M.D. next time you are laying in an ICU bed, inside a negative pressure isolation room, suffering from a Flu strain identified 60 years ago. But since you were never exposed to that strain or any other (through vaccination as a child), your body could not find the correct weaponary in time (white blood cells), and you are fighting a losing battle.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25342235

How often is the yearly flu correctly identified and put into that year's vaccine?

How often is the yearly flu the same as any previous one, even as old as 60 years ago? And, are 60 years' worth of flu strains included in each shot? (Hint: no.)

It's got to be the right flu strain, otherwise the vaccine is worthless. And endless "alerting" your immune system into giving half responses seems to weaken the response when the real thing arrives. Crying wolf and all that.

That's aside from the poisons in the shots, whether they are aluminum, thimeroaal (mercury) or something else for the given shot.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28008747

The funny thing is that we don't even need flu vaccine and possibly a lot of other vaccines by simply fixing widespread vitamin D deficiency that MDs don't seem to be aware of! Vitamin D is your natural vaccine against a lot of things!