Ah, they've done it again and just in the nick of time for THE DARK KNIGHT RISES home video release. The nefarious Screen Junkies have produced another brilliant slice of truth with an honest trailer for Christopher Nolan's final piece of THE DARK KNIGHT trilogy. It pretty much covers all the moans and groans most fans have had about the film, presenting it in the familiar movie-trailer voice over that brings it all home. You may not agree with everything they put in the video, but it's likely you'll get a good laugh.

And yes, TDKR had WAYYYYY more plot holes than Avengers. In fact, the plots holes in TDKR were immediately distracting, while I didn't even realize the plots holes in Avengers until someone pointed them out to me. Why? Because TDKR was not a fun movie. TDK & BB was fun as hell, and very enjoyable movies. TDKR was a tedious exercise in pretentiousness.

The best one they did yet.

And yes, TDKR had WAYYYYY more plot holes than Avengers. In fact, the plots holes in TDKR were immediately distracting, while I didn't even realize the plots holes in Avengers until someone pointed them out to me. Why? Because TDKR was not a fun movie. TDK & BB was fun as hell, and very enjoyable movies. TDKR was a tedious exercise in pretentiousness.

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Was hoping they would do that.

Anyway, I don't understand why people moan about him getting back to Gotham from the prison so easily; they question that, but didn't seem too bothered when he somehow summoned Alfred to pick him up in the middle of fucking nowhere (in a private jet, no less) after going missing for seven years in Begins. For crissakes, if they explained every minute detail in movies, films would be twelve hours long. Plot holes are bound to happen in films (and trilogies) of

Was hoping they would do that.

Anyway, I don't understand why people moan about him getting back to Gotham from the prison so easily; they question that, but didn't seem too bothered when he somehow summoned Alfred to pick him up in the middle of fucking nowhere (in a private jet, no less) after going missing for seven years in Begins. For crissakes, if they explained every minute detail in movies, films would be twelve hours long. Plot holes are bound to happen in films (and trilogies) of this scale, but you can't deny the ambition that Nolan and Co. have.

People can't defend TDKR's plot hole by stating that all other movies have plot holes. TDK trilogy prided itself on realism and TDKR dropped the ball, period. Yes other films like Avengers had plot holes, but not as blatant, in your face as some of these: sending every cop in Gotham into the sewer at the exact same time, knowing Bruce Wayne is Batman from a "look", traveling across the world and sneaking into Gotham without money/passport, knowing exactly how many hours/days are left on the

People can't defend TDKR's plot hole by stating that all other movies have plot holes. TDK trilogy prided itself on realism and TDKR dropped the ball, period. Yes other films like Avengers had plot holes, but not as blatant, in your face as some of these: sending every cop in Gotham into the sewer at the exact same time, knowing Bruce Wayne is Batman from a "look", traveling across the world and sneaking into Gotham without money/passport, knowing exactly how many hours/days are left on the bomb, finding out the truth about Harvey Dent from a speech Gordon kept in his coat and everyone automatically believing it. Granted some of these aren't plotholes, they are just stupid, but these Nolan fan-boys (which I thought I was one until I realized that true Nolan fan boys will "love" anything he throws out without questions) need to lighten up and realize TDKR is very far from perfect and had tons of problems.

People can't defend TDKR's plot hole by stating that all other movies have plot holes. TDK trilogy prided itself on realism and TDKR dropped the ball, period. Yes other films like Avengers had plot holes, but not as blatant, in your face as some of these: sending every cop in Gotham into the sewer at the exact same time, knowing Bruce Wayne is Batman from a "look", traveling across the world and sneaking into Gotham without money/passport, knowing exactly how many hours/days are left on the

People can't defend TDKR's plot hole by stating that all other movies have plot holes. TDK trilogy prided itself on realism and TDKR dropped the ball, period. Yes other films like Avengers had plot holes, but not as blatant, in your face as some of these: sending every cop in Gotham into the sewer at the exact same time, knowing Bruce Wayne is Batman from a "look", traveling across the world and sneaking into Gotham without money/passport, knowing exactly how many hours/days are left on the bomb, finding out the truth about Harvey Dent from a speech Gordon kept in his coat and everyone automatically believing it. Granted some of these aren't plotholes, they are just stupid, but these Nolan fan-boys (which I thought I was one until I realized that true Nolan fan boys will "love" anything he throws out without questions) need to lighten up and realize TDKR is very far from perfect and had tons of problems.

TDKR was very silly

The irony being TDKR has all the same problems as its predecessor. Same awful dialogue, clunky exposition, ludicrous plotting, bad acting and bloat. You guys just didn't notice because Heath Ledger transcended the material and made you forget how boring the scenes without him were. TDKR is a far more enjoyable movie - Hathaway was fun and I had a good laugh every time Bane opened his mouth. Nolan is alarmingly mediocre.

The irony being TDKR has all the same problems as its predecessor. Same awful dialogue, clunky exposition, ludicrous plotting, bad acting and bloat. You guys just didn't notice because Heath Ledger transcended the material and made you forget how boring the scenes without him were. TDKR is a far more enjoyable movie - Hathaway was fun and I had a good laugh every time Bane opened his mouth. Nolan is alarmingly mediocre.

Without question you are wrong. TDK is way better and not just because of the Joker. Unlike TDKR, TDK actually has more than a couple scenes of Batman in it and the plot makes sense. Dent is more enjoyable than Catwoman and Alfred isn't a bitch either.

Without question you are wrong. TDK is way better and not just because of the Joker. Unlike TDKR, TDK actually has more than a couple scenes of Batman in it and the plot makes sense. Dent is more enjoyable than Catwoman and Alfred isn't a bitch either.

funny, but....

...I'm alot less forgiving when people genuinely get stuck on these so-called "plot holes" which leads them to declare the movie and entire trilogy as a waste of everyone's time. It's obviously NOT a plot hole when it is explained in the movie itself (Bane's reasoning for taking a few months to destroy Gotham) or by simple logic (Bruce traveling across the world and entering locked-down Gotham, Bane knowing where the armory was, Bruce knowing which cafe and when Alfred would be there) or it's a

...I'm alot less forgiving when people genuinely get stuck on these so-called "plot holes" which leads them to declare the movie and entire trilogy as a waste of everyone's time. It's obviously NOT a plot hole when it is explained in the movie itself (Bane's reasoning for taking a few months to destroy Gotham) or by simple logic (Bruce traveling across the world and entering locked-down Gotham, Bane knowing where the armory was, Bruce knowing which cafe and when Alfred would be there) or it's a matter of personal opinion ("the batman I know would never never ever quit! ever!" "The ending sucked!") If people took the time to actually understand what constitutes a plot hole and actually pay attention to the movie, we just might find ourselves enjoying what is a great ending to an amazing trilogy.

Those were just the technical problems, but nothing can really fix the intelligence of the film.

If the whole point of the plot was to actually blow up the city in the end, why didn't they ever do it? When she was holding the detonator, or when Batman was fighting Bane? Was it to give the city Hope? That seems a little too convenient that they decide to go through with the plan when it starts to fall apart.

Also they would have avoided the whole dumb Nuclear Bomb Fallout problem if he

Those were just the technical problems, but nothing can really fix the intelligence of the film.

If the whole point of the plot was to actually blow up the city in the end, why didn't they ever do it? When she was holding the detonator, or when Batman was fighting Bane? Was it to give the city Hope? That seems a little too convenient that they decide to go through with the plan when it starts to fall apart.

Also they would have avoided the whole dumb Nuclear Bomb Fallout problem if he dropped it in the ocean instead of letting it blow up above the water. Then it could be argued that the city has a chance of survival, but they might go a few decades before fishing again...

Actually yes, the whole idea behind Bane waiting months before destroying the city was to give them false hope. Same with building an awful prison with a giant hole at the top. Give the prisoners false hope that they can actually escape. According to Bane, that's the worst type of despair you can have. But ya I can see your point about them still trying to go through with the plan. All i can chalk that up to is that its necessary for the progression of the movie. Same reason why Frodo and

Actually yes, the whole idea behind Bane waiting months before destroying the city was to give them false hope. Same with building an awful prison with a giant hole at the top. Give the prisoners false hope that they can actually escape. According to Bane, that's the worst type of despair you can have. But ya I can see your point about them still trying to go through with the plan. All i can chalk that up to is that its necessary for the progression of the movie. Same reason why Frodo and company couldn't hitch a ride with an eagle to Mt. Doom...then there'd be no movie. That isn't a plot hole. I guess it's sort of along the lines of suspension of disbelief, but only vaguely. As for the bomb, I've only seen the movie once so my memory may not be 100%, but I don't remember them saying it IS a nuclear bomb, only that it is LIKE one. The blast radius is about 5 miles, and Batman did get the bomb far away (but I'll admit, im pretty bad at judging distances). This aspect of the movie wasn't as strong as I'd like it to be though, I'll admit it's a little messy

Prometheus was more interesting when you discussed the plot holes, and revealed the Jesus Christ/Crucifixion back story.

TDKR had some wonky acting, and some terrible fight choreography and absolutely no character development. Unless you include the main character crawling out of a hole and beating up the bad guy an emotional arc...

What exactly were the "Plot Holes" in The Dark Knight?

Prometheus was more interesting when you discussed the plot holes, and revealed the Jesus Christ/Crucifixion back story.

TDKR had some wonky acting, and some terrible fight choreography and absolutely no character development. Unless you include the main character crawling out of a hole and beating up the bad guy an emotional arc...

Nolan's Batman was touted as being more grounded in reality, and I think that's why people make a fuss about the plot holes. I liked it, but was still a bit disappointed with the story. Even those who have a few complaints enjoyed the flick.

Nolan's Batman was touted as being more grounded in reality, and I think that's why people make a fuss about the plot holes. I liked it, but was still a bit disappointed with the story. Even those who have a few complaints enjoyed the flick.

TDKR gets more slack because it's considered critically acclaimed where as Avengers is just a movie people tend to enjoy. TDKR is so smart, thrilling, epic, the best thing Nolan ever shat out! Thing is, as much as I enjoyed TDKR, I put it on the same level as Avengers. I really enjoyed both, plot holes and all, but being so critically acclaimed the way it is feels weird to me. It's the same with TDK. People were going crazy with how amazing the script was and the performances and the story etc,

TDKR gets more slack because it's considered critically acclaimed where as Avengers is just a movie people tend to enjoy. TDKR is so smart, thrilling, epic, the best thing Nolan ever shat out! Thing is, as much as I enjoyed TDKR, I put it on the same level as Avengers. I really enjoyed both, plot holes and all, but being so critically acclaimed the way it is feels weird to me. It's the same with TDK. People were going crazy with how amazing the script was and the performances and the story etc, but I often wonder, had Ledger not died, would TDK be as revered? Again, I love this movie too, but I acknowledge that it isn't the be all end all. For that reason, those revered movies need to be made fun of appropriately. It's to remind people to not take life so seriously and enjoy the movie with all it's faults...even when experts want to ignore those faults.

Fuckin Hilarious!!! And I loved TDR.. One of the best films of the year. Truth be told. Most Epic movies are gonna leave alot of unanswered questions and/or plot holes, because if they were answered, it'd be 10 hours long.

Fuckin Hilarious!!! And I loved TDR.. One of the best films of the year. Truth be told. Most Epic movies are gonna leave alot of unanswered questions and/or plot holes, because if they were answered, it'd be 10 hours long.

I think Avengers gets away with it because no one cares about the plot holes when it comes to that kind of film. It's a fun popcorn film that can easily be forgiven in place of action and great characters. Nolan's Batman, however, has prided itself as an intricate, more realistic comic book film so the plot holes are less forgiving. It also comes from the fact that The Dark Knight was such a fantastic film. I think there were just far more expectations with TDR than Avengers.

I think Avengers gets away with it because no one cares about the plot holes when it comes to that kind of film. It's a fun popcorn film that can easily be forgiven in place of action and great characters. Nolan's Batman, however, has prided itself as an intricate, more realistic comic book film so the plot holes are less forgiving. It also comes from the fact that The Dark Knight was such a fantastic film. I think there were just far more expectations with TDR than Avengers.

it's that simple, the film practically has no story and no memorable acting. There wasn't a single scene with Bane that blew me away, or even was that impressive. The fans will eat up anything with Batman, even if it's completely unfaithful to the character.

The Avengers = Fun

The Dark Knight Rises = Tedious

it's that simple, the film practically has no story and no memorable acting. There wasn't a single scene with Bane that blew me away, or even was that impressive. The fans will eat up anything with Batman, even if it's completely unfaithful to the character.

sick of the complaints about....

Not showing how he got back to Gotham from the pit. Why doesnt anyone ask how Indiana Jones first swam across the water to board a submarine, that no one saw or noticed, then how with the submarine door latched and locked how he dint die when the sub went under water. Or if he did get in the sub how he evaded the entire occupants of that sub while dressed in his normal attire and why was none of it shown? BC its a movie and you just except it at face value. BTW Talia doesn't kill him right away

Not showing how he got back to Gotham from the pit. Why doesnt anyone ask how Indiana Jones first swam across the water to board a submarine, that no one saw or noticed, then how with the submarine door latched and locked how he dint die when the sub went under water. Or if he did get in the sub how he evaded the entire occupants of that sub while dressed in his normal attire and why was none of it shown? BC its a movie and you just except it at face value. BTW Talia doesn't kill him right away bc she wanted to see him suffer and lose everything, money and his alter ego

I know, right! Like why doesnt any one ever ask how Ray Finkle was able to change his gender to a woman and then become Lt. of Miami P.D. without anyone noticing besides Ace Ventura, a pet detective. Because its a movie...

I know, right! Like why doesnt any one ever ask how Ray Finkle was able to change his gender to a woman and then become Lt. of Miami P.D. without anyone noticing besides Ace Ventura, a pet detective. Because its a movie...