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Mine is supposed to be pure king, not from mixes if that makes any sense? I don't really know how to word it better. We got him from a friend's sister in law that was breeding them, they were breeding regular GSDs and Kings.

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A King Shepherd was created by mixing other breeds with GSDs. I don't know at what point Iit stops becoming a mix and develops into an actual breed. I don't think a king has made it to that point, sort of like a puggle or something like that.

Is yours a shepherd mix with some breed to make a king? Or is he just a larger gsd? I'm thinking mine might just be the large breed became the mom is normal size and the dad is 130pounds. Here is my boy at 12 weeks 31 pounds.

Mine is supposed to be pure king, not from mixes if that makes any sense? I don't really know how to word it better. We got him from a friend's sister in law that was breeding them, they were breeding regular GSDs and Kings.

When we went to pick our dog out, we had the option of a GSD or King. There were 2 kings left from a previous litter (7 months old, 1 male, 1 female) and 3 GSDs (I forget how old but 12-16 weeks? 2 males, 1 female). We had to consider our pack at the time and what type of dog would fit best - we needed a submissive (for lack of a better word) male first and foremost. I, personally, like getting older puppies, so that also influenced our choice. I had very little desire to clean up after a young puppy, lol. With all that being said, the thing that really sealed the deal was that Bru was the first one to come right up to me, sit on my feet and lean into me. It was like while I was there, nothing else mattered to him. He apparently was not like that with other people that would come out to visit (they also do boarding). We could not bring him home right away, we were in the process of moving, but we did go and visit him for a few hours every week and he did the same thing each time. It took him a bit longer to warm up to my boyfriend, but he would allow him to pet him and what not. He is definitely a Momma's boy and that's what I wanted. Both of our other dogs (dachshunds) were mine before I met the boyfriend but they both prefer him. He's home all day, I'm not, doesn't bother me too much. The male dachshund is like the boyfriend's baby, I swear that dog hates me now, lol.

Bru's dad was ~130lbs, mother was ~110lbs. Grandmother on father's side ~120lbs, grandfather on father's side ~145lbs. I can't remember the maternal information though, sorry.

Found another owner of a half brother the other day while walking Bru (all the dogs look very, very similar. You can tell they are related). This boy is 5 and ~110lbs at a good weight. The owner said his growing has slowed down a lot in the past 6 months (filling out, etc), thinks he will top out at ~120lbs.

05-03-2014 02:10 PM

rena

I would not concern myself or care if its King or not. Shelley Watts started this breed with the Shiloh and Malamute mix. Thus the large size. BUT as time went on I found out from others the dogs she was producing were not as large and also seemed to have other mixes. Other king shephard breeders also stated their dogs were kings but they were not very big. Just like a regular dog. They try to say their temperament is better and thats a bunch of hogwash. I studied kings as I wanted a huge dog! Went to forums etc and there were LOT of snobs there and did not like it when I asked why their "KINGS" were actually only about 80 pounds. As well a lot of the breeders in the states that were breeding kings were getting cancer! I actually spoke to shelley herself over the phone and she tried to pawn a dog off me that did not even look like a actual pure shepherd. I found a AWESOME breeder up here in Canada quebec then. She produces Large long haired shepards and they look like KINGS and when I spoke to her, I knew she was the real deal for a large king like but really a purebred long haired shepherd. Shes voncaide. Nicest most caring person you will ever meet in a breeder and my next dog will be from her. Her dogs ranged roughly from 100 to 150 pounds NO HIP ISSUES! I was waiting for almost 6 months as she had two I wanted pups from but they could not conceive so i broke down and got a long haired locally. Long story short….large long haired pure bred shephards are better than kings, in my opinion, because there is no mix. Thats my 12.5 cents.

05-02-2014 06:26 PM

Chip18

I can safely say, OS working line GSD can easily reach 125 lbs and my guy is getting nothing near six cups a day of kibble!

No my boy is not AKC Registered. I didnt get a pedigree. The reason of, The breeder gave him to us for free, for my son who has Autism. Im not to worry though, i nevered plain on breeding him. I got to see the parents every week after my pups birth, tell we took him home. Thats how i know the dads size and the moms.

Oh, okay, that makes sense. Well, you may never know then. I don't think a King Shepherd is a popular "breed" so it seems more likely that your dog's dad is an over-sized GSD.

I'm confused as to why you are uncertain if yours is a King or not, do you have his pedigree? Is he AKC registered as a GSD?

No my boy is not AKC Registered. I didnt get a pedigree. The reason of, The breeder gave him to us for free, for my son who has Autism. Im not to worry though, i nevered plain on breeding him. I got to see the parents every week after my pups birth, tell we took him home. Thats how i know the dads size and the moms.

He'll be 2 in July, still growing and filling out. Currently weighs ~75-80lbs but is very lean, I swear he could eat a bag of food a day and still be lean, crazy high metabolism. We were worried and had him tested for EPI a few months ago, negative. More testing done, all came back fine, so it was determined that he just needs more food. Currently feeding ~6 cups/day - Medical Dental mixed with Purina Healthy Vitality, it's the only thing that keeps weight on him without having to feed crazy high amounts. We were feeding ~8+ cups of some of the premium foods before I finally got fed up with the over feeding (he was starting to have mushy poop and would throw up because there was just too much food). We hadn't tried the "bad" foods at that point, so just picked up a bag of the Purina.

I also have access to his half sister - same thing. She's a year older, eats like a horse but still quite lean. Continuing to gain weight/muscle/grow at just over 3 years. Stunning looking dog. She's currently ~85lbs, I think they're feeding about ~4 cups now.

I've noticed with Bruce that he will have big growth spurts, still. From last week to this week he is at least a couple of inches taller. He'll stay like that for a few months and then have another growth spurt. Chest seems to be starting to drop (not sure if it's the same term as dachshunds, sorry) and starting to fill out a bit and get wider. Paws are the size of my hand, literally (but I'm small).

Big, dumb head - not actually dumb, but always has his "derp" face on. Big goofball, slow to mature both physically and mentally - still very puppy like. Extremely stubborn, very intelligent and curious - give you his derp face when he doesn't want to do something but will obey if you persist (we're working on it). Very loyal to people he knows, standoffish with adult strangers, very curious about children - absolutely loves them but waits until they approach him. Very high energy but has a good "off" switch. Extremely aware of his surroundings, learns quickly - especially from other animals. Very powerful dog too - last year he ripped the support beam and railing off our porch when I walked away and forgot to tell him to stay.

99% of people call him a GSD, 90% of the time we don't bother correcting them after having people argue with us. If people ask, we tell them that he's a King, some people correctly guess, others argue as I mentioned.

All around a good dog, I like him.

Is yours a shepherd mix with some breed to make a king? Or is he just a larger gsd? I'm thinking mine might just be the large breed became the mom is normal size and the dad is 130pounds. Here is my boy at 12 weeks 31 pounds.