I’m honestly getting confused with Seiko’s tier of quality and pricing.
I used to know what watch was a (used market) $200 Seiko- SKXxxx, a $500 Seiko- Sumo, $700- Shogun, and the MM300 which used to be $1500-$2000 But now cheaper.
Now all the new ones have price increase and I don’t know what quality of tier they are in. And don’t get me started on the X on the dial...

Spb051 was announced at almost $1200 when released. I always take Seiko MSRP with a big grain of salt. If this new one has the same finishing as a MM300, but thinner, it may be worth it. Unlike a lot of people, I don’t mind the hands at all. They just work IRL in my opinion. I can do without the X, but it’s not a deal breaker for me. I’ll probably get one at JDM pricing to check out.

Plus, maybe Creation will find a few that fall off the back of a truck .

Watches are just like buying a car. Buy used, and let someone else eat the depreciation. Either that or wait for that killer sale price. Another reason I never jump on the newly released flavor of the month watch.

I can’t keep up with the model numbers. Seriously I got lost when Seiko released the MAS reissue and related “X” offerings. So basically I have no idea wtf is going on. But $5k for the 6159 reissue is insane. No go for me.

You give respect, you'll get respect - you just don't know your place.

I’m still so f’n confused. Did Seiko basically take the MM300 case and throw in a 6R15 and virtually discontinue the entire MM300 lineup with the 8L35?? And if so, am I correct that they’ve now taken the 8L35 and put it in the new releases for a ridiculous upcharge?

You give respect, you'll get respect - you just don't know your place.

I’m still so f’n confused. Did Seiko basically take the MM300 case and throw in a 6R15 and virtually discontinue the entire MM300 lineup with the 8L35?? And if so, am I correct that they’ve now taken the 8L35 and put it in the new releases for a ridiculous upcharge?

Not exactly. These are supposedly the newer renditions of the 6159 with newer hands, much like when they released the 62Mas reissues with the 6r15 and newer hands. So far the only announced new MM300 is the Green dial LE "X" with sapphire and ceramic bezel.

I’m still so f’n confused. Did Seiko basically take the MM300 case and throw in a 6R15 and virtually discontinue the entire MM300 lineup with the 8L35?? And if so, am I correct that they’ve now taken the 8L35 and put it in the new releases for a ridiculous upcharge?

I tried the reissue on at the Seiko boutique yesterday. It is absolutely gorgeous, but surprisingly enormous. It is way too thick, even for me.

It’s ginormous. I didn’t even think to ask if they could take the plastic off so we could take pics. We eyeballed it next to the green LE MM300 and my SD43, and it dwarfs them both. The bezel is also extremely thick/tall, which only adds to the height. Beautiful dial and handset, though.