I am so glad I made the decision to go straight to the E5 and wait for the top gun!! Why?? Because unlocking the E5 also unlocks the M103's top gun! 60,000 XP saved. Sometimes I think people posting here don't even have these tanks.

I bought the gun, do you have to? Obviously not, but without it the gun feels like a Russian tank. I've got the T-10 too, so I know... With the gun it is a much better tank. Penetration isn't everything. But could you skip it? Obviously, the other gun pens stuff about as frequently assuming you hit what you are aiming at. What I can't see though are people who don't upgrade the turret. The original turret is so bad and feels so crappy that this really bothers me.

But did you research the gun first, or did you research the T110E5, which uses the same gun and unlocks it in the M103 automatically?

I unlocked the gun first. It's more fun that way. Makes it feel like you earned the tank and the M103 pretty much sucks without the gun. Just unlocked the E5 today. Haven't played it though, maybe after a few more games in the 103.

The difference is not so great, if you feel that you need it go for it.

This is one of those cases of the whole being better than the sum of its parts. Yes, one would need 245,000XP to get the E5 instead of just 185,000, but once you've spent that first 60,000, the remaining 185,000 are so much more fun and go by so much more quickly because of the better gun that you're not actually losing out on as much time as you think you might before starting off. I highly, highly recommend going for E5 with the top gun, unless there is some time-critical reason "I must have a T110E5 for a contest or some such" for you to beeline to it.

This is one of those cases of the whole being better than the sum of its parts. Yes, one would need 245,000XP to get the E5 instead of just 185,000, but once you've spent that first 60,000, the remaining 185,000 are so much more fun and go by so much more quickly because of the better gun that you're not actually losing out on as much time as you think you might before starting off. I highly, highly recommend going for E5 with the top gun, unless there is some time-critical reason "I must have a T110E5 for a contest or some such" for you to beeline to it.

Agreed. You can save that last gun upgrade for last, the first 120mm is still good so you can stop at that while you unlock all other modules, but you'll still want to get it. The top gun may not be a huge upgrade like a lot of top guns are, but it's is still surprisingly noticeable for how small a difference there is on paper.

I did the grind during an "On Track" and thus skipping the top gun let me buy the E5 while on sale. The second-best gun felt plenty fine, the real issue just seemed to be the unreliable armor. Of course the top gun is better and if you don't mind it taking longer then upgrade to it, but it it no way feels mandatory. And at 60k and being free from the E5 I just didn't see a real reason to waste the XP on it when I could spend that time on other tanks.

You are playing a HT and one of the first upgrades wasn't the gun? that is the most important part of a heavy.

​Moguai, how's it going man, long time. Nice to see you back out again. Hey OP, if there's one thing I have learned, you can trust what Moguai says whether you want to agree or not. Shoulda gotten the gun first, I made that same mistake on the KV-4 and it's cost me every battle I play it.

This is one of those cases of the whole being better than the sum of its parts. Yes, one would need 245,000XP to get the E5 instead of just 185,000, but once you've spent that first 60,000, the remaining 185,000 are so much more fun and go by so much more quickly because of the better gun that you're not actually losing out on as much time as you think you might before starting off. I highly, highly recommend going for E5 with the top gun, unless there is some time-critical reason "I must have a T110E5 for a contest or some such" for you to beeline to it.

We are still discussing this thread?

My opinion the M103 is better than the T110E5, if it was not for the roof it would be a good contender for best tier 9 heavy. Anyone grinding it should get the top gun there is very little reason to rush.

​Moguai, how's it going man, long time. Nice to see you back out again. Hey OP, if there's one thing I have learned, you can trust what Moguai says whether you want to agree or not. Shoulda gotten the gun first, I made that same mistake on the KV-4 and it's cost me every battle I play it.

My opinion the M103 is better than the T110E5, if it was not for the roof it would be a good contender for best tier 9 heavy. Anyone grinding it should get the top gun there is very little reason to rush.