my friend said to me today that the jsa have rung up her work saying "need free staff", they can even pick up leaves" now she thinks her job is in
jeopardy with these free workers, where will it all end.

will they even pay your bus fare or expect your jsa to pay for it??

people are going to go nuts for this....

I want a job and its hard to get one now its even harder and now I have to work 30hrs for my benefits, my benefits don;t even add up to 90 pound a
week, for this i would expect more!!!

The UK should leave the unemployed alone and make the compulsory crap jobs for the welfare recipients who never worked a day in their lives, I also
feel the US would benefit from doing this!!! Why should the unemployed be harrassed? THEY know what work and toil is about and they paid into those
benefits or their employers did anyway, so WTH????

I started part time work at age 11, and was in full time work at 17, now i am jobless penniless and very frustrated.

I feel for you I am in the same predicament, However I just filled out for a job at take our jobs back for farm work, well it said Florida is pushing
this campaign so we'll see how serious they are... I am ready to get down and dirty in the cow puck to make any kind of wage now!!!! LOL!!! I hope
they don't want to use welfare recipients first...or people on unemployment benifits, as I have neither...since I live in a right to work state and I
quit my job (WAL MART, Nuff said) I couldn't receive any unemployment and my hubby makes too much for us to get any help, well, that's not the
point, I wouldn't take it anyway. But hopefully the farm workers are serious about this campaign cause I am dead serious about working in whatever I
can get right now!

UK Government to bring in forced manual labour

"Long-term benefit claimants could be forced to do compulsory manual labour under proposals being put forward by the government, it has emerged.
Under the plan, claimants thought to need 'experience of the habits and routines of working life' could be put on the month long, 30-hour a week
placements."

"Mr Duncan Smith said his plans were designed to reduce welfare dependency and make work pay. He said: "One thing we can do is pull people in to do
one or two weeks' manual work - turn up at 9am and leave at 5pm, to give people a sense of work, but also when we think they're doing other work.

"The message will go across; play ball or it's going to be difficult."

I would love to farm work just as long as I get some sort of qualification on the way, except over here the manual labour rules are, are that you
can't work with poo because of law suits, that;s what they said to my friends employer "they can only do thinks like litter picking filing etc no
hands on in farms ie scooping poo,
strange that!

That is odd, well I am getting my qualifications online for computer IT, so this would just be for money. I think though this would give me some kind
of work qualification, I mean if I ever wanted to start a farm, this would give me some experience, true?

Originally posted by DragonsDemesne
It also seems fair; if you are going to accept a government handout, you should have to do something to earn it.

Don't you think that the Government should provide money so that people can have their basic human rights like food, water and shelter? Why should we
have to work for these?

If you want luxuries like a big plasma TV, by all means you should work for it.

If you have to work for what is accepted as human rights, then you are a slave.

If a farmer did this to his animals, he would be in big trouble. Don't see why it should be any different for TPTB.

I agree to a point. Remember, the proposed idea affects the long-term unemployed. I don't think there was a time frame given, but I think it would
be reasonable to get 'free' welfare for a time, as there are many legitimate reasons to be unemployed and on welfare. I think this is meant to try
and encourage the long-term welfare leechers to go do something.

IMO, government contracts to perform government work, is still a government entity.

The government should not contract anything out, that they are specifically held accountable for. I am talking about in the US by the way. Our
government is given certain enumerated powers. Anything above and beyond that is wrong, IMO.

Yes, I would say nowadays soldiers are part of the welfare system known as the government. According to the Constitution, a standing army, especially
one in foreign countries, is a no no.

Oh and if I had my way, and the Constitution had it's way, drug testing would only be done by private businesses. Tell me, did not the prohibition
amendment and the subsequent removal amendment, set precedent about drugs? If it took a Constitutional Amendment to make a substance illegal, why does
it not take another Amendment to do the same?

Oh by the way, thank you very much for your service. I am not someone that is against the military whatsoever. I am against the way it is used though.
The US was never meant to be the police for the world, it is a bastardization of the Constitution and absolutely a wrong use of military forces. The
military was created to fight wars, police are meant to police, huge difference.

Anyone on welfare or other forms of public assistance needs to be put to work. If they have an aversion to manual labor, they are free to stop getting
checks any time they want. Naturally the physically disabled couldnt do much, but I'm sure there is a wide enough variety of work to keep 99% of
welfare recipients busy.

My only change to the plan would be that it needs to last alot longer than a month. Keep them working for their welfare checks until they decide they
have had enough of living on the public dime and they can find employment on their own.

Back before i became disabled that would have been a vacation for me.
The industrial construction jobs i worked on were 10 to 12 hour days with 6 to 7 day work weeks.
Then the mine jobs were 50 to 60 hour work weeks and the last i was the superintendent at the mine.

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