At 7/29/2010 10:37:28 PM, FREEDO wrote:They say politics is based on your sense of morality.

Starting sentences with "they say" can be a recipe for disaster, unless your beginning a conservative talking point on Fox News.

If you're a debater on DDO, then I would say this point holds. If you're politician, I'd say you have a whole lot more to worry about than morality in your political endeavors. That point aside, I believe morality is the most important aspect of a person's character, and ideally, yes, everyone's politics should be based on their morals. I'm hoping that future generations take better care to study morality as the status quo has been beaten down by religion and greed.

What do you know about this? What ethics places someone on any given point on the spectrum?

Assuming you mean the spectrum of good and evil, I would say the single most determining factor is pride vs. humility. I put the negative first because human nature is negative; we do not strive for good, we strive not to do evil. Why else would we be so preoccupied with what would happen to criminals in an anarchist society? Pride is the root of all evil (which greed, in turn, is rooted [hence money]), because it places oneself above other people. When one considers oneself more important than other people, it's hard not to be able to justify an immoral act.

For me, anything that suppresses freedom is inherently immoral. Since my morality tells me authority is immoral, I won't support a political system based on authority.

Hmm, I wonder if I could use my religion as an excuse to get away with anything. If a cop tries to hassle me, I'll complain that my religion prohibits me from being subject to authority and therefore infringing my 1st amendment right.

At 7/29/2010 10:37:28 PM, FREEDO wrote:They say politics is based on your sense of morality. What do you know about this? What ethics places someone on any given point on the spectrum?

Also, this 1,000th politics topic, had to take it.

I think that is true, my politics have always seemed to be derived from and consistent with my morals.

I think it is more that you interpret your morality to form your politics though. For instance I am not sure my morals have changed that much from when I used to consider myself a Communist.

I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.

At 7/29/2010 10:37:28 PM, FREEDO wrote:They say politics is based on your sense of morality. What do you know about this? What ethics places someone on any given point on the spectrum?

Also, this 1,000th politics topic, had to take it.

In my opinion politics and morality should not be mentioned in the same sentence. I see alot of people jumping into public service, and they seem as though they are ethical, but after being tainted by Washington they vote along party lines, rather than with a conscience. How moral is that?

At 7/29/2010 10:37:28 PM, FREEDO wrote:They say politics is based on your sense of morality. What do you know about this? What ethics places someone on any given point on the spectrum?

Also, this 1,000th politics topic, had to take it.

In my opinion politics and morality should not be mentioned in the same sentence. I see alot of people jumping into public service, and they seem as though they are ethical, but after being tainted by Washington they vote along party lines, rather than with a conscience. How moral is that?

We actually agree.

Politics is merely a way of getting power, its all about power, and do what is necessary to get the power.

At 7/29/2010 10:37:28 PM, FREEDO wrote:They say politics is based on your sense of morality. What do you know about this? What ethics places someone on any given point on the spectrum?

Also, this 1,000th politics topic, had to take it.

In my opinion politics and morality should not be mentioned in the same sentence. I see alot of people jumping into public service, and they seem as though they are ethical, but after being tainted by Washington they vote along party lines, rather than with a conscience. How moral is that?

We actually agree.

Politics is merely a way of getting power, its all about power, and do what is necessary to get the power.

Exactly. It's a game of power, absolutely nothing to do with morality.

At 7/29/2010 10:37:28 PM, FREEDO wrote:They say politics is based on your sense of morality. What do you know about this? What ethics places someone on any given point on the spectrum?

Also, this 1,000th politics topic, had to take it.

In my opinion politics and morality should not be mentioned in the same sentence. I see alot of people jumping into public service, and they seem as though they are ethical, but after being tainted by Washington they vote along party lines, rather than with a conscience. How moral is that?

We actually agree.

Politics is merely a way of getting power, its all about power, and do what is necessary to get the power.

Exactly. It's a game of power, absolutely nothing to do with morality.

It's naive and dangerous to think otherwise. That's why i advocate to not belong to a party.

At 7/30/2010 1:28:08 PM, FREEDO wrote:These really interested me, you should take a look.

eh. his book (the political mind) is poorly written propaganda. i bought it hoping to learn something interesting, but the more i read the more i realized it was simply a long rant about how conservatives are @ssholes and liberals are like loving parents. its a gross oversimplification of the matter. i know he's written a lot in the sphere of language, especially dealing with metaphors, but to try to reduce worldviews to a few metaphors misses the entire rational basis of the positions he summarizes.