The Steadfast charity for the ethnic English, the only organisation registered with the charities commission (despite their best efforts to close it down when they realised who it was set up for) can be supported for as little as £2 per month. Their trustees claim NO expenses and as far as I've seen end up many hundreds of pounds out of pocket driving around the country and setting up their stall. Recent grants of thousands have been given to the Stone Cross St Georges day parade, the English music festival, Saxon storytellers and books for schools plus they will confront any Anglophobia you wish to bring to their attention. If you have any exclusive cultural or historical event you think deserves support, have a look on their website. And please join up! Even the most brassic of us can afford 50p a week, surely?

Yes, please do support Steadfast trust as well, but remember, as a charity, none of the money raised by Steadfast can be used for political purposes and therefore while they carry out valuable charitable work, donating to Steadfast should never be viewed as an alternative to, or a substitute for, the funding of a dedicated political movement.

Despite the fact that the activists involved in Steadfast are amateurs, and therefore limited in the amount of time they are able to devote to our cause, they do achieve a great deal and are to be commended for their efforts.

Roughly 900,000 people voted BNP at the last European elections. One third of that number is 300,000 people.

300,000 people contributing £30/m equates to £100 million per annum and with that kind of money we can win.

We would be able to employ 1,000 full-time local leaders, whose role would be to lead and project manage the creation of enclaves, and to act as parliamentary candidates should we have the opportunity to contest a general election;

We would over a five to ten year period also have enough money to finance the acquisition of the remainder of the Six Prerequisites:

To create as many as 1,000 enclaves;
To build our 5th column within the establishment infrastructure;
To purchase/create a formidable nationalist media;
To recruit, equip and train a formidable, 'Right Sector' style body of militant street activists; and
To outspend at a general election, every other political party in the UK combined.

There are two polar extremes to the range of possible futures for Britain under the current regime:

1. A future in which there is a slow and insidious decay of our civilisation, but in which sufficient of our current social infrastructure remains such that it is possible to credibly contest legitimate elections; and

2. A future in which there is a more rapid descent into chaos and corruption with the emergence of a fractured society in which local ethnic minority warlords will rule in defiance of a weak and ineffective central government, with their own private armies financed from the proceeds of crime. This is the 'Britain morphs into a colder, wetter version of Afghanistan' scenario.

The most likely future will be somewhere between these polar extremes, but irrespective of the future that faces us, the Western Spring strategies will prepare and equip the greatest number of our people to meet any challenges and place us in a position in which we can realistically challenge for sovereign political power, and regain our self-determination as a people.

Instead of feebly voting UKIP, or BNP in the knowledge that these organisations cannot possibly win without selling out to our enemies;

Instead of having a wish-bone where our back-bones should be and simply wishing like a child for the 'magic fairy' to come along and make it all better without us having to lift a finger;

Instead of praying for that cataclysmic SHTF moment that will make our economy and our current regime collapse, without stopping to consider that 99.9% of our population are totally unprepared for life in a post apocalyptic scenario and that 50% of them would probably die of cold, starvation and disease in the first 12 months, irrespective of any other threats we might face from well-armed and battlefield experienced Islamic militias;

We have taken stock of the probable range of futures that we will face and despite the daunting size of the task, we have set about implementing a viable plan to save our people, come what may.

There is a valid comparison here with the Biblical story of 'The Flood', except we can all see the flood coming and its not a watery flood, but a human flood, the tide of which is rising all the time.

So who are you going to trust?

The people who allowed the flood in the first place and who tell you flood will be nice?

The people who say 'do nothing, because we are all doomed' and in any event we are too tight and/or suspicious of our racial brothers to spare a £1 a day in preparation to save our own lives?

Or the men and women who are busy building a fleet of Arks?

So with just £100 million, you are going to take on and defeat the Bilderberg group (out of control large companies, amongst others.) Change the financial system from usury to something that is beneficial for us and not a scam like usury, take control of our armed forces, which would obviously be a major requirement for ACTUAL change, turn our corrupt, so called democracy into something that works in favour of us indigenous. Get us out of Europe, take on G.C.H.Q., M.I.5/M.I.6 (whom the establishment control and would send them to stop you, obviously) and defeat them.

All of the above is possible, however you won't achieve it with a mere £100 million, any suggestion that it can be done with your scheme/scam which gives 50% of its donations to those who collect them, is an absolute fantasy.
Just to "Turn on the radio and tune into sanity F.M.", so to speak. I recall a certain American president who made a speech saying that he would do much of the above for his country, he was dead soon after. What was his name? Oh yes, J.F. Kennedy.

You Lazza, are a dreamer at best.

No I aren't trying to demoralise nationalists, I am being honest with my Sisters and Brothers. We all know what is required to bring change and it involves things that I cannot legally mention on the internet.
This is the truth of the matter, it's as simple as that.

The Steadfast charity for the ethnic English, the only organisation registered with the charities commission (despite their best efforts to close it down when they realised who it was set up for) can be supported for as little as £2 per month. Their trustees claim NO expenses and as far as I've seen end up many hundreds of pounds out of pocket driving around the country and setting up their stall. Recent grants of thousands have been given to the Stone Cross St Georges day parade, the English music festival, Saxon storytellers and books for schools plus they will confront any Anglophobia you wish to bring to their attention. If you have any exclusive cultural or historical event you think deserves support, have a look on their website. And please join up! Even the most brassic of us can afford 50p a week, surely?

Excellent. I have just had a look a the website and it looks good, I am definitely going to make a regular donation to them.

So with just £100 million, you are going to take on and defeat the Bilderberg group (out of control large companies, amongst others.) Change the financial system from usury to something that is beneficial for us and not a scam like usury, take control of our armed forces, which would obviously be a major requirement for ACTUAL change, turn our corrupt, so called democracy into something that works in favour of us indigenous. Get us out of Europe, take on G.C.H.Q., M.I.5/M.I.6 (whom the establishment control and would send them to stop you, obviously) and defeat them. All of the above is possible, however you won't achieve it with a mere £100 million, ...

It is not long ago that you were telling everyone that raising £100 million was impossible. Now apparently, you've decided it is a paltry and insufficient amount. How times have changed!

If you had bothered to read the Western Spring articles properly, and done the maths, you would have realised that we aim to raise £100 million per annum.

That's 300,000 people contributing £30/m = £100 million per annum.

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... any suggestion that it can be done with your scheme/scam which gives 50% of its donations to those who collect them, is an absolute fantasy.

I can understand why someone like you who has no experience of building large enterprises might think that, but the people engaged by us to recruit donors will also be responsible for organising a group and ultimately leading and project managing the establishment of an enclave. A percentage of the income stream derived from the people they recruit will be allocated to them for these purposes, and to provide for their upkeep, so that they can afford to work full-time for our cause. That percentage is indeed 50% of the overall income stream initially, reducing thereafter, but it is not 'cash in their back pockets', it is 'turnover' to fund that part of the overall enterprise for which they are responsible.

Therefore all of the money we collect will be used to advance our cause as effectively as possible.

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Just to "Turn on the radio and tune into sanity F.M.", so to speak. I recall a certain American president who made a speech saying that he would do much of the above for his country, he was dead soon after. What was his name? Oh yes, J.F. Kennedy.

Yes, as Western Spring becomes increasingly successful, we are aware that the leadership group will become targets for assassination, and this is why we go to some lengths to avoid publicly announcing who we are.

We believe however that our cause is worth the risk. It's called courage. We feel the fear, but do it anyway!

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You Lazza, are a dreamer at best.

You may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one, and one day I hope you'll join us and our movement will be as one! (wow, someone should make a song using those lyrics, it would be a big hit).

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No I aren't trying to demoralise nationalists, I am being honest with my Sisters and Brothers. We all know what is required to bring change and it involves things that I cannot legally mention on the internet.
This is the truth of the matter, it's as simple as that.

However, whatever it is you choose to do, if you want to be successful, you will need lots of money and a support infrastructure. That is, unless you simply plan to form a large circle with your brothers and sisters, all hold hands, close your eyes, and wish really, really, hard, ... but somehow, I can't see that working.

It is not long ago that you were telling everyone that raising £100 million was impossible. Now apparently, you've decided it is a paltry and insufficient amount. How times have changed!

If you had bothered to read the Western Spring articles properly, and done the maths, you would have realised that we aim to raise £100 million per annum.

That's 300,000 people contributing £30/m = £100 million per annum.

I can understand why someone like you who has no experience of building large enterprises might think that, but the people engaged by us to recruit donors will also be responsible for organising a group and ultimately leading and project managing the establishment of an enclave. A percentage of the income stream derived from the people they recruit will be allocated to them for these purposes, and to provide for their upkeep, so that they can afford to work full-time for our cause. That percentage is indeed 50% of the overall income stream initially, reducing thereafter, but it is not 'cash in their back pockets', it is turnover to fund the part of the overall enterprise for which they are responsible.

Therefore all of the money we collect will be used to advance our cause as effectively as possible.

Yes, as Western Spring becomes increasingly successful, we are aware that the leadership group will become targets for assassination, and this is why we go to some lengths to avoid publicly announcing who we are.

I wouldn't worry about that, the establishment may well be laughing at your pie in the sky scam, however I doubt very much that you will ever be important enough to be targeted for assasination. Besides, they know who you are anyway, it's on the net, an article regarding a scam from memory.

We believe however that our cause is worth the risk and we feel the fear, but do it anyway!

My hero.

You may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one, and one day I hope you'll join us and our movement can be as one! (wow, someone should make a song using those lyrics, it would be a hit).

Quoting the rabid lefty Lennon and his Japanese wife, hhhmmmmmmm.

However, whatever it is you choose to do, if you want to be successful, you will need lots of money and a support infrastructure. That is, unless you simply plan to form a large circle with your brothers and sisters, all hold hands, close your eyes, and wish really, really, hard, ... but somehow, I can't see that working.

We already have infrastructure in numerous nationalist parties.

I notice that you have avoided answering my questions, so it's not just money that you point blankly refuse to talk about.

I'll ask you again, how are you going to defeat or take control of the establishments current infrastructure?

Oh and you won't even raise £500,000, let alone £100 million pounds per year. You live in a world of fantasy, your scheme has no chance of any success, which you must realise, ergo. it must be money making scam.

At last I detect the to and fro of rational discourse and no silly baiting. Long may it continue! (although I won't hold my breath)

Sensible man, not holding your breath.

As proven by these two quotes below way back in this thread where the opportunity was held up for a certain person to have a rethink about his crusade to assassinate my character and stop before it just got really bad for him. He didn't and he has now made it personal. So every time something he posts takes my eye and I can be bothered I'm going to make one of my excellent hard-hitting replies. And I can't think of a better person to have this honour bestowed upon them than Miss Verity Krank...or whatever the name is these days.

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I haven't read many of your articles, none recently, but some on here swear by them. so if I were you I'd just keep working on your website and any networking you are doing. Play to your strengths. This is what will bring you success if indeed success is warranted. Whereas fighting your way down the blind alleys on here night after night will bring you nothing but despondency.

I can do tit for tat posts endlessly and effortlessly. If I blow my own trumpet for once, I'm an expert at it. Being on the receiving end of these posts isn't very uplifting or flattering which makes me wonder why people come back time and time again for more. Think about that before you reply.

max

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It's sad to see every WS thread continuing like this.

Maximilian's trademark is he won't give up and can stay level headed and fair for eternity.

max

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I wouldn't worry about that, the establishment may well be laughing at your pie in the sky scam, however I doubt very much that you will ever be important enough to be targeted for assasination.

Then what was the point of your earlier reference to JFK?

You were implying that the leaders of Western Spring should be fearful of suffering a similar fate, so make your mind up!

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Quoting the rabid lefty Lennon and his Japanese wife, hhhmmmmmmm.

Goodness, with a memory for music like yours, you should be on 'pointless'.

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Besides, they know who you are anyway, it's on the net, an article regarding a scam from memory.

Yes, thanks to a deluded person who is inadvertently doing Searchlight's work for them.

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We already have infrastructure in numerous nationalist parties.

Don't make me laugh!

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... how are you going to defeat or take control of the establishments current infrastructure?

That is clearly evident from statements I have already made on this forum and further statements contained within various Western Spring articles.

Do you need spoon feeding now?

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Oh and you won't even raise £500,000, let alone £100 million pounds per year. You live in a world of fantasy, your scheme has no chance of any success, which you must realise, ergo. it must be money making scam.

That's a non sequitur argument. Using your logic, every nationalist organisation must be a money making scam.

Look, Gee Dubya, why don't you try to recruit some of your friends or some random members of the general public into any of the nationalist organisations that you claim to support. That would be a positive and productive way to spend your time, instead of coming on here and defaming those who are trying to advance the same cause that you claim to serve?

If you spent your time recruiting people to the nationalist cause, and Max and I did the same, then more progress might be made.

You were implying that the leaders of Western Spring should be fearful of suffering a similar fate, so make your mind up!

Goodness, with a memory for music like yours, you should be on 'pointless'.

Yes, thanks to a deluded person who is inadvertently doing Searchlight's work for them.

Don't make me laugh!

That is clearly evident from statements I have already made on this forum and further statements contained within various Western Spring articles.

Do you need spoon feeding now?

That's a non sequitur argument. Using your logic, every nationalist organisation must be a money making scam.

Look, Gee Dubya, why don't you try to recruit some of your friends or some random members of the general public into any of the nationalist organisations that you claim to support. That would be a positive and productive way to spend your time, instead of coming on here and defaming those who are trying to advance the same cause that you claim to serve?

If you spent your time recruiting people to the nationalist cause, and Max and I did the same, then more progress might be made.

I'll make it even simpler for you, after all you are the one begging for money and you have to justify how it will be used if you are to gain a trusted status in our movement. Just one question, for now, how do you plan to gain control of M.I.5 (who would be ordered to stop you, if by some miracle you ever became a threat to the establishment), this being a prerequisite for success and change. Please do thrill us with your self alledged superior intellect, tactics and strategies.
It's a very simple question, how would you do it?