Hopelessly confused -- do you understand? U.S.A. is a corporation, not a country.

Good point. Also the first "official" act of the Corp, after they took over Irac, was to create a Central Bank. The tenacales of this Beast extend
around the world. What is very bothersome to me is that all these actions are done in the name of protecting"our interests abroad" referring to
America's Interest, when in fact it is in the interest of Corp US, and definitely NOT in the interest of the citizens of our great nation. No wonder
we are becoming hated through-out the world. The very sophistigated approach of nameing the corp, Corp US , instead of something like Corp Global,
insurred that any flack they would encounter as a result of "their" actions would be inflicted upon our nation, instead of them. Lots of smoking
mirrors here. The more bits of info members add to this thread, the higher the level of insight we all will have.. Thanks for shareing.

Originally posted by Jdawg9909
One has to admit that it would be smart to run a country as a corporation. To make sure that a country successfully makes money and stays afloat, I
see nothing wrong with this. I will research this matter furthur.

What gets me is that we have, since inception of the Federal Reserve in 1913, who somehow acquired the power to create a false debt and loan it out,
we have went from an asset based economy to a debt based economy. This philosophy of going into personal debt was promoted all the way until personal
credit cards were then available in 1950.

Personally I see this debt structure as nothing more than bread and circuses. To keep man preoccupied with working to pay for things he never really
owns or deserved in the first place. To buy toys, cars, and boats. It is really all quite absurd. I am willing to bet that most are living a
lifestyle that they do not deserve. They have in essence rented the lifestyle that they never really own.

[On the surface I would agree with the general principal of a corp that could manage the nations business, as long as the allieigence to the citizens
and the interest of OUR nation were the prime motivating factor. However, like communism, it only looks good on paper. In reality, the 7 foreign
families who were the beneficiary's of the profits, had no alleigence to any nation, and their personal profits were the prime motivating factor.]

A debt based economy, like ours, is a pyramid scheme. All funds and ownership will be eventually funneled to the top. Namely banks and those who own
these lending institutions.

[Correct again, although I would more correctly call it a ponzi scheme that is now at the brink of collaspe. Now that the debt has come full circle,
the only "out" for them is to kill the proverbial goose that lays the golden eggs. : Us! Heavier taxation and hyper-inflation, more severe than the
nobles and peasants of old europe.]

That is why we swayed from precious metal backed currency. Those who created the false credit, out of thin air, to loan in the first place would of
never been able to make money.

Just saying that corporations getting all in bed with the govt. and corporations getting considered to be people, ect.,when they do not ever DIE like
people, so they are immortal - well, corporations are more like vampires then and they are going to cause America to just conflagrate.
Out of control corporatism is evil.

I do not disagree>> Out of controll corporatism is indeed evil. The dilema here is that there is an underlying impression by association, by the
left, that capitalism as an economic model is also evil. So the left would prefer to substitute socialism and Marxism as a remedy. This is another
realm of smoking mirrors that TPTB have instututed as a policy to divide and conquer. (Republicans= big business---Dems= Socialism) So we fight each
other politically and become polarized. The whole time TPTB are rakeing in trillions of OUR dollars, and behind the scene support both sides. The
hidden sacred cow in the equasion is Globlaization. The left sees it as a social experiment of inclusiveness, diversity and re-distribution of wealth,
while the right see it as a natural evolution of capitalism. Neither are right. Globalization was the creation of TPTB to insure that their positions
of wealth and power are forever and irrevokably sustained. The current round of NWO initiatives came out of the Trilateral Commission, implimented
thru the Counsil on Foreign Relations,( thru the State Dept) and financed by The World Bank and the FED, enforced by the IMF, and legalized by the
WTO. So who had the political and financial muscle to pull this off?. CORP. US
Each of these entities deserve their own thread and examination, but I'm slightly of topic here so I'll await your response.

The United States is a Constitutional Republic, it is not a corporation.

The problem is that we have several private corporations which have granted themselves unConstitutional power.

Namely the Federal Reserve which prints debt based imaginary currency.

Then we have the IRS which collects unconstitutional income taxes.

Also remember that our USPS is a private company and the post office is NOT owned by the people as well.

Welcome to reality, enjoy.

Wrong. The US IS a coporation...and Obama is the President/CEO of that corporation.

Calling a corporation a 'person' is their language - legalese. In legalese a 'person' is a 'legal entity', but not a flesh and blood man. All
part of the tricks they have used to deceive everyone for centuries.

OP - Dean Cliffords videos are brilliant at explaining how the corporation works, it's real function, and how we can protect ourselves from this
system.

Well, I just got blown away watching 4 of those videos. This guy spells it out in laymans terms. Question: Is what he is saying equally valid under US
court systems. I suspect it is but would like to know if you have researched it. Thanks for a great find. ATS members.............it's worth a good
look!!

Well, I just got blown away watching 4 of those videos. This guy spells it out in laymans terms. Question: Is what he is saying equally valid under US
court systems. I suspect it is but would like to know if you have researched it. Thanks for a great find. ATS members.............it's worth a good
look!!

I'm really glad you liked them. Me too, I was just blown away watching them. I'm not from US - I'm in UK, but from what I have read I'm pretty
sure the basic court systems in both US and Europe function in the same way. There are some differences in the Acts and Statutes, for example, and in
the various administrative systems in which the courts function, but from what I've read, the same trust/corporation system is how all our courts
function.

I feel as though there's a mountain of things I want to bone up on now, lol! It's amazing to get such a clear and easy to grasp insight into how
they operate... things start to make much more sense...so liberating!

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