Arizona sheriff orders armed "posse" to patrol school.

This is a discussion on Arizona sheriff orders armed "posse" to patrol school. within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Ran across this a few minutes ago. Not sure if "posse" was a good choice of words but at least he gets point across. One ...

I would say it all depends on the level and type of training the posse members have. If they are working in teams, I would think active shooter/killer training as well as partner training would be a big asset. Guys that just met the Constitutional carry requirement and have no further training may be a risk to themselves and others.

Sounds like Sheriff Joe is training of the posse members to reasonable standards. I like the program.

I new several of Joe's members and some had retired plus you have the Arizona Rangers and from the ones I was associated with they received good required training. Up in central Az they had what was called VIP, volunteers in protection and they had 2 levels armed and unarmed and the training was good on both levels.

I usually would not agree with anything about Joe beyond that he should leave office, however, this statement
makes his proposal seem realistic:

"Arpaio’s volunteers number about 3,000, with 300 to 400 carrying weapons. They log about 100 hours of training and undergo background checks, just like deputies, according to KPNX."

Now, I do wonder how many of the 3-400 carrying weapons are able to get off from work during school hours, day in and day
out? My hunch is not many, at least not many of an age where they are physically and mentally able to deal with
a heavily armed BG or two.

Number of schools in Maricopa County? I think I saw 7 School Districts on a google search and counted (quickly) at least 50 schools. Number of armed deputies? See the problem?

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I usually would not agree with anything about Joe beyond that he should leave office, however, this statement
makes his proposal seem realistic:

"Arpaio’s volunteers number about 3,000, with 300 to 400 carrying weapons. They log about 100 hours of training and undergo background checks, just like deputies, according to KPNX."

Now, I do wonder how many of the 3-400 carrying weapons are able to get off from work during school hours, day in and day
out? My hunch is not many, at least not many of an age where they are physically and mentally able to deal with
a heavily armed BG or two.

Number of schools in Maricopa County? I think I saw 7 School Districts on a google search and counted (quickly) at least 50 schools. Number of armed deputies? See the problem?

Publicity stunt.

An interesting idea nonetheless.

Hop - I heard on the radio that the majority of Sheriff Joe's posse is retired LEO. I guess they have the time as they are getting a pension anyway. They may be working this as a second job part time too.

Okay, maybe it's a bit of a publicity stunt - and I have no doubt that being seen to "send his posse out" is at least partially calculated to get Mr. Arpaio re-elected.

Yes, that particular media report glossed over the fact that the people being deployed are in fact trained, uniformed law enforcement officers - the fact that they are volunteers does not change the fact that they are qualified to enforce the law, have powers of arrest, and that this is not some sort of new class of LEO created to deal with a new problem. It seems to me that these people are citizens who have volunteered their time to be trained and serve their community, just like reserve law enforcement officers all over North America. This is nothing new - it's just happening at a time when the media thinks that they can generate ratings by covering something "controversial".

I also picked up on the fact that at no time did ANYONE say that the deputies in question would be inside the schools....they are patrolling the streets outside the public schools in the county.

It's all a tempest in a teacup - a logical and reasonable precaution taken by an elected official (albiet likely with the intention that it will help regarding re-election), and the knee-jerk reaction of hoplophobes...documented in a sloppy manner that attempts to inflame both of the opposing camps. The only thing that I see that is new is that the elected official acted in a logical and reasonable manner.