Hit a wall early in 2013 and I could not make any progress, then I had a nagging knee and shoulder injury. On top of all this I turned 30 and it was really beginning to mess with my head thinking that my best training days are behind me.

I had to take a very critical look at what I was doing and completely overhauled my training.

Still have to work on the squat (385x1), deadlift(440x4), and clean and press (185x1).

Hit a wall early in 2013 and I could not make any progress, then I had a nagging knee and shoulder injury. On top of all this I turned 30 and it was really beginning to mess with my head thinking that my best training days are behind me.

I had to take a very critical look at what I was doing and completely overhauled my training.

Still have to work on the squat (385x1), deadlift(440x4), and clean and press (185x1).

Hit a wall early in 2013 and I could not make any progress, then I had a nagging knee and shoulder injury. On top of all this I turned 30 and it was really beginning to mess with my head thinking that my best training days are behind me.

I had to take a very critical look at what I was doing and completely overhauled my training.

Still have to work on the squat (385x1), deadlift(440x4), and clean and press (185x1).

Among "enhanced" people 5 plate deadlift, 4 plate squat, 3 plate bench, 2 plate clean and press, and 12 reps pull ups/chin ups with an additional 45lb plate is probably fairly common. But for a natural I would say that is pretty good.

In 12 years of training in various gyms I can count the number of people I have seen do one of these lifts on one hand. Never seen a natural be able to do all five.

I am not saying this is impossible and has never been done. I am not saying that my expirience represents every single person who trains. This is why I figured it would be interesting to see how this fares among a wider range of people.

If you are natural and can do all 5 IMO that is very impressive. You would be the second person I heard of doing it..

IMO anyone that can hit ALL of these numbers is a very strong individual all around and will have the muscle mass to show for it. Not today's IFBB or high level NPC big, but something along the lines of an NFL running back.

Now I know that these numbers are not astounding but for a natural they are pretty damn good.

I have news for you. An NFL running back is stronger, faster and has more power than a professional bodybuilder.

not trying to start a pissing contest and i don't want to be a dick... but here are my bests (approx)...

5. Deadlift 700sih (i pull today but do a max set of 4 plates for 8-10)4. Squat 600ish (in the gym, wide stance but low)3. Bench 440 for 22. Clean and Press 2851. Chin ups/pull ups something like what you posted... but I weigh 230 at 6' and do these regularly for multiple sets

I put up a video of the 315bench on page 2, I just hit that last week. I will get a video of the 12 rep pull ups/chinups with a 45 soon ( so far these two are the only ones I can do). I will keep updating this thread as I go along.

not trying to start a pissing contest and i don't want to be a dick... but here are my bests (approx)...

5. Deadlift 700sih (i pull today but do a max set of 4 plates for 8-10)4. Squat 600ish (in the gym, wide stance but low)3. Bench 440 for 22. Clean and Press 2851. Chin ups/pull ups something like what you posted... but I weigh 230 at 6' and do these regularly for multiple sets

That is beyond impressive. If you are natural that is truly mind blowing.

I put up a video of the 315bench on page 2, I just hit that last week. I will get a video of the 12 rep pull ups/chinups with a 45 soon ( so far these two are the only ones I can do). I will keep updating this thread as I go along.

be as public as you want... as i stated before i'm not trying to compete with anyone... believe what you want

be as public as you want... as i stated before i'm not trying to compete with anyone... believe what you want

i've trained with many stronger men... but i should note thati have always been strong... most of my lifts are lower these days but i'm more of a runner now (for obstacle course training)

I was not trying to take a shot at you. There are members here that I respect and won't question their claims, you are one of them. This is the main reason I posted this on the training board rather than the G&O.

Unlike you, I have not always been strong. I was 19 years old and 133lbs when I first started training. My max bench was 135lbs. squat was around the same. I was not a top high school or college athlete so I didn't get a chance to train around people who were genetically gifted. So my point of view is a bit different.

WOOO seems like a cool guy...never got the impression he was prone to exaggeration, so going by the lifts he posted.. What would be the point anyway. Really very few others I can say that about on GB. Flights of delusion are extremely common on GB, based on false ego and/or wanting to be noticed. Lonely people come here daily (actually never seem to leave, but for a couple of hours). And other guy's just angry most of the time.

700lb DL, not that uncommon, but still impressive. Depending on the ratio of bwt to the weight lifted, can be even more impressive. 400lb bench, getting fairly common, with the new watermark being 500 in most lifting circles. That's what is the new goal or standard of achievement. Of course these are instinctive strongmen, training with strongmen goals. Who just have the passion for lifting very heavy weight.....some are juiced, some not. 100+ years ago the old timers were lifting ungodly amounts of weight...no juice back then. Maybe except for lots of meat and beer, it that could count as "juice".

Majority of heavy DL'ers break the lift into 3 phases in training. Watched a few Olympic lifters, not actually doing any DL'ing in training, DL 700 + fairly well. Those 400-500 rep cleans from the floor help quite a bit.

Looks like Yez33 has a natural pull and a not so natural push...hence the lower bench press but the higher chinning strength. Which means a goal of 400 can be that much more of a challenge. The average experienced BB'er/trainee, after years in the gym, usually will max out around 320 to 350 in the bench. Which is very good actually.

Don't know what Yez33's workout protocols are, and he might have done this type of training before, but might suggest suggest partial rep lockouts and middle range. Along with working the weakest point of the bench, the starting point off the chest...also using partial reps. Might also suggest to never go to a point of failure in any training session. Leave 1 or 2 reps short of failure. Yez33 can take all this for what's it's worth.

Good to set goals, but probably best for setting little progressive goals. If wanting to bench (for example) 300 and are currently doing 205, set your goal at 215 and work towards that end. When hitting 215, with 3 to 5 reps (and you will) set the next goal at 225, etc, etc, etc. Upward and onward..as it were.