Thursday, April 24, 2008

Welcome, Welcome, Welcome!!!!!

It’s okay to be here, really. Apparently this blog was mentioned in the fan message board on the official Keith Urban web site, “Monkeyville”. Come on in and read the blogs! There are so many to choose from and all are entertaining, but let’s set the record straight about a few things. Please read the following and remember them and then we shouldn't have any problems.

1. This blog isn't written by one person. Someone mentioned “he” as the author while describing this blog. While there might be a “he” writing one or two of the blogs, for the most part this blog is written by women. Many women, not just one or two. This bugs some of our critics because they want us to sign our work. The problem with doing that is that when you see a specific author it becomes so much easier to dismiss what they are saying by strapping baggage on the author. An example: let’s say Amanda signs her blog, then someone in the comment sections says, “Well, what do expect from Amanda? We all know what her agenda is…”, and the message gets lost.

2. No comment is ever deleted by the administrator in the comments section. The only way a comment is deleted is by the author. As much as everyone wants to jump on the “there is no free expression on any Keith Urban related site”, here at Urban Myths, that is just not true. Express all you want. There isn't a Luke/Foxy/Amber like moderator here.

3. There is a basic belief here that Nicole Kidman has ruined Keith Urban's life. Well yes and no. Keith does a fine job of screwing up on his own and he chose to be publicly connected to Kidman, but many feel Keith had no clue what the botoxed wonder was going to do him and his career. Where do we find our evidence about that? One word: rehab.

4. This isn't a gossip site. There are far better ones out there. We do talk about what is in the news and sometimes what we reckon the answers are may be based on some gossip. But this isn't the place to find out what kind of underwear Keith Urban wears. While some may know, that is not what we do here.

5. People do read this site and some take it seriously. Sorry, but this site is read and interpreted. Some feel that it is a safe place that isn't full of photo ops and engineered writing. How can we say that? Because we have learned to spot Kidman’s self-promotion and manipulation.

6. While you may worship Nicole Kidman and especially Keith Urban, we don't. Keith is a gifted performer. He was on his way to the top until Kidman took up with him. Then we have seen that he was in a train wreck. But for many of us we already knew he was just a guy, imperfect with warts, who was ruthless and ambitious. Some felt he was sincere but for many he isn't anymore.

7. We know that one day this marriage and relationship will end. How? Who knows, but it will.

8. Nicole Kidman is a vain, manipulative, insecure famewhore who is incapable of interest in anything or anyone other than herself. Her career is in free fall and she is using her fictional personal life to bolster her ego even if it destroys her children, parents, sister and husband.

9. No one here wishes any harm to our critics or Keith and Nicole. It would be great if she just went away, but since she is here for the time being, we are here to watch everything unravel. As for our critics, we don't understand the devotion or the misinformation unless you are paid to present them, but you exist and we won't deny it.

10. While some of our critics are paid to post, no one here is making any profit by writing what we do. So go back and read and if you want, and please comment. We want and encourage the feedback. No one will erase your words. We promise.

6. While you may worship Nicole Kidman and especially Keith Urban, we don't. Keith is a gifted performer. He was on his way to the top until Kidman took up with him. Then we have seen that he was in a train wreck. But for many of us we already knew he was just a guy, imperfect with warts, who was ruthless and ambitious. Some felt he was sincere but for many he isn't anymore.

If this is the "true" reason for your pitiful excuse of a website, then why bother? Very Curious...

I appreciate the collaborative efforts of this blog. I am not a fan of the Hollywooder's and there troops of money grabber's and wannabe's. It's refreshing to know there are other people out there who are willing to call a Spade a Spade when need be.

Well obviously, as their chosen nickname indicates... as Ive commented before... in monkeyland, its see no evil, hear no evil....But like monkeys in a zoo, their good for a few giggles, but you definatlely dont want them let loose in your home...or blog site... the clean up alone is a chore!...by the way... is the comment still up at the site, or was it eaten by the monkeys?

maclen, that comment was truly priceless! The monkeys have to learn that there is no such thing as Karma. It's all part of the image BS that was made up about Keith, and fed to us! Face the facts monkeys. Keith messed around with/on _________. We have figured out what the blank is, and feel free to figure it out for yourself. He isn't the barefoot poet you think he is, and he certainly wasn't a virgin when he got married.

Feel free to say what you want about the couple here. You can say you don't like what she is doing to him here. Don't worry, he will never come knocking on your front door thanking you for all the kind things you say about him and his wife on Monkeyville.

I love this blog site. It's an opportunity to say how you feel...without having your post deleted. I don't agree with every blog, but hey, variety makes the world go round, right?

So ... for the poster who indicated on one of the "blowing sunshine up their butts boards" not to say anything positive, or it will be deleted, that's simply not true.

There will be opposing views posted...but the positive post is not removed. Even when the positive posters bash other posters, the opinion is not removed. This is one of a very few sites that allow freedom of expression.

I loved this summary blog...great job of expressing how I view this site, anyway. Thanks.

Intuition says: If this is the "true" reason for your pitiful excuse of a website, then why bother? Very Curious...

I posted over at MV, and the post lasted about 2-3 days and magically was gone one day. I paid to join a KU fan club and my problem is with NK. What happened to free speech?

I can only speak for myself, but you ask, "WHY BOTHER" the reason that I "bother" is that everyone here has been very welcoming. The best part is that it is a safe place, where I can freely express my frustration about what is the slow erosion of a fabulous performer caused by none other than NK. I have learned that I was not alone wondering what is happening to my favorite performer!!

isitoveryet said..."I forgot to mention maclean - the thread is gone like a freight train on MV!"..."Sorry - I spelled your name wrong maclen!"

No problem about the name... izitovuryet... its just a loaner! Not too surprised the comment was deleted....seems people are paid to make sure they dont linger too long... people might actually read it and ponder a little.

I haven't been reading here long, but I love it. I'm so glad there are people who feel the same way I do about the KU/NK union. I actually quit going to the other boards after the marriage. It's so evident when you look back over the past 2 years. You can actually see him "transform" into what wants him to be.

With all that being said, I still love the guy. I think he's the best performer I've ever seen and I'll be seeing him tomorrow night in Atlanta. I can't wait!!

Yes, Just as we knew it would the link to this blog was deleted from the Monkeyville message board when I checked early this am. What a shocker!! NOT!!!! It is nice to post what is on your mind on this blog and not have it deleted.

I continue to be a amazed at how so many of KU's fans believe in his sainthood. That could not be farther from the truth. If these cult members could ever be deprogrammed to look at the real Keith they would all probably have little monkey heart attacks!!! Bless their old holier than thou souls!!If they ever had a glimpse into the real lives of Keith AND the band on tour over the last few years their hair would stand on end as they ran away screaming!! Saint Keith is indeed just a real man with all the flaws & weaknesses we all have, except that most of us cannot afford to indulge in them. After all, not too many men would keep saying no to all the women that throw themselves at Keith AND his band. Above all those clones from Monkeyville could actually see that the batface woman aka NK did not "save" Keith, she just bound & constrained his talent like a geisha girl has her feet bound to keep them small. No pun intended.

In this day & time of any & ALL kind of news NOT being out of bounds (TV, Internet sites,blogs UTube), It is totally amazing that the clones or should I say drones from Monkeyville whitewash KU, the band and yes, let us not forget the queen bee herself,spokes woman for Botox gone wrong, Ms Nic.

1. This blog isn't written by one person. Someone mentioned “he” as the author while describing this blog. While there might be a “he” writing one or two of the blogs, for the most part this blog is written by women. Many women, not just one or two. This bugs some of our critics because they want us to sign our work. The problem with doing that is that when you see a specific author it becomes so much easier to dismiss what they are saying by strapping baggage on the author. An example: let’s say Amanda signs her blog, then someone in the comment sections says, “Well, what do expect from Amanda? We all know what her agenda is…”, and the message gets lost.

B.S. Every blog written here has the same agenda. Maybe you could make your case if some of the entries were written by people who believe this marriage is real and others that dont. But thats not true now is it? No one knows how many people, if its men and women, or if its just one person. And why should we believe you if you dont want to own up to your own work?

2. No comment is ever deleted by the administrator in the comments section. The only way a comment is deleted is by the author. As much as everyone wants to jump on the “there is no free expression on any Keith Urban related site”, here at Urban Myths, that is just not true. Express all you want. There isn't a Luke/Foxy/Amber like moderator here.

Not deleting comments here doesnt make this site better or worse. It is what it is. If you post anywhere you have to accept the terms of the site. But i will warn anyone who decides to post support for the couple...dont be surprised when you are called names, retaliate and then be told that you (and only you, not the skeptics) should stop the behavior. Or to be told you should go away or that they'd like to shut you up. Its all happened to me. This isnt a place for civilized debate. And nice dig at the other moderators btw, its not going unnoticed.

3. There is a basic belief here that Nicole Kidman has ruined Keith Urban's life. Well yes and no. Keith does a fine job of screwing up on his own and he chose to be publicly connected to Kidman, but many feel Keith had no clue what the botoxed wonder was going to do him and his career. Where do we find our evidence about that? One word: rehab.

No. Keith was an addict years before he met Nicole. He had the same issues of not feeling comfortable being off the road as he did then. If you want to blame Nicole then you'll have to blame Nintendo for not keeping him occupied enough. Addicts constantly have to keep their disease in check. It doesnt matter how well your life is going. If you have self-esteem issues, personal issues that no one but you can work on then a marriage no matter how good it is isnt going to prevent you from bad behavior. They can support you, give you guidance but the addict has to do the work. Maintenance of the disease is a hard road.

4. This isn't a gossip site. There are far better ones out there. We do talk about what is in the news and sometimes what we reckon the answers are may be based on some gossip. But this isn't the place to find out what kind of underwear Keith Urban wears. While some may know, that is not what we do here.

Keiths choice of underwear or lack thereof isnt whats in the gossip papers and you know it Umyths. Let me alert the newbies to Umyths Gossip Hound where the tabloids are collected for the skeptics enjoyment. The blog is 100% based on gossip. Theres a huge focus on Kidman allegedly faking a pregnancy which is what the gossip blogs like Lainey are talking about. So its gossip there but not here??? A few truths here and there like dates that anyone with a computer can verify are sprinkled in for an appearance of legitimacy. But dont be fooled. This has nothing to do with finding the truth as they claim. What does the truth have to do with silly polls, old unverified nasty rumors posted at the top of the page to made look as though they are fact. Pictures with what they think are witty captions making fun of Nicole. This site is a place to bash Nicole Keith and if youve read previous blog entries, their unborn child as well.

5. People do read this site and some take it seriously. Sorry, but this site is read and interpreted. Some feel that it is a safe place that isn't full of photo ops and engineered writing. How can we say that? Because we have learned to spot Kidman’s self-promotion and manipulation.

I feel sorry for anyone who takes this site as a place for real info. I can read and interpret the writings here quite clearly Umyths. The photo ops are in your tabloid archive. You dont put them on the front page but you have them, you that little link on the right hand side. And engineered writing? I dont recall fake conversations that take the same negative direction, based on opinion only, as examples of truthful prose.

6. While you may worship Nicole Kidman and especially Keith Urban, we don't. Keith is a gifted performer. He was on his way to the top until Kidman took up with him. Then we have seen that he was in a train wreck. But for many of us we already knew he was just a guy, imperfect with warts, who was ruthless and ambitious. Some felt he was sincere but for many he isn't anymore.

Ahhh there's another fallacy. Why is it that any fan of Nicole's isnt just a fan...they worship her??? Same goes for KU. Anybody that didnt think Keith was just a guy before he met Nicole doesnt have a grasp on celebrity. They are all just people with their lives, good and bad, magnified for the world.

7. We know that one day this marriage and relationship will end. How? Who knows, but it will.

Now you are a crappy prophet Umyths? Thats not good enough to give a blanket statement that the marriage will end, that proves you know nothing. Half of all marriages end in divorce. Its just the skepti-hater way to cover your ass just in case they separate. Then you can say you were right. But no one here would know why the marriage dissolved. BTW, many of their fans hope the marriage ends in old age when one of them passes on to a better place. And I hope you have figured out that Nicole is forever linked to Keith since they have a child on the way. If you cant accept her now well good luck seeing her for possibly the next 50 years!

8. Nicole Kidman is a vain, manipulative, insecure famewhore who is incapable of interest in anything or anyone other than herself. Her career is in free fall and she is using her fictional personal life to bolster her ego even if it destroys her children, parents, sister and husband.

Where in the world is this coming from? How is it in free fall when she had to turn down two roles because of a pregnancy and has several projects lined up post-baby? Directors and actors want to work with her. How will she destroy her family? I want details!

9. No one here wishes any harm to our critics or Keith and Nicole. It would be great if she just went away, but since she is here for the time being, we are here to watch everything unravel. As for our critics, we don't understand the devotion or the misinformation unless you are paid to present them, but you exist and we won't deny it.

Oh thank you Umyths for acknowledging our existence. Im so grateful. So lets see what has unraveled...absofreakin'lutely nothing. Keith and Nicole's marriage stayed strong through rehab. They are almost to their 3rd anniversary. They are having a baby and the pregnancy is progressing normally. Keith is getting rave reviews on his tour. His albums are selling despite cd sales going down the toilet. He's had multiple artists from country bluegrass and pop ask him to record duets. All this after rehab and his supposed fake marriage.

What exactly do you do Umyths while waiting cause youve spent alot of time doing just that with no payoff.

10. While some of our critics are paid to post, no one here is making any profit by writing what we do. So go back and read and if you want, and please comment. We want and encourage the feedback. No one will erase your words. We promise.

If you are going to claim they are paid you'll have to do just more than just say it for anyone to take you seriously. I have no doubt you arent getting paid because what you are presenting here isnt worth anything. Its just bashing disguised as a fact-finding mission. Which has had about as much success as finding WMD's in Iraq.

lightsourceyoga, are you kdding me? Do you think any official fanclub would allow you to criticize an artists wife on the fan message board? You joined the fanclub and you have to adhere to their guidelines. I realize no one reads the terms of service for anything when they sign up but geez louise. Get real!

yingyang...are they really the worst mods ever? Or is it that they do their job and dont allow negativity to take over the board. One post from a skeptic and it would just cause fighting and i think everyone here knows that.

It's nice being able to say what I feel even if it's different. I don't think Kidman is beautiful or talented.I think she is a plastic freaky looking bitch. I don't think she saved Keith Urban.I think she is the biggest mistake he has ever made in his life.It's nice to be able to say that.I disliked her before she ever met Keith and I still dislike her.I see no reason why I should have to pretend I like her because an artist I do like had the misfortune to fall into red ugly nasty hands.There is no way in hell I could post Oh they're so cute they seem so in love because they don't look cute or in love to me.

realitycheck, i had just had to pop in and say your observations are spot on! fans can think keith is rooted for marrying nicole and nicole is rooted where her film career is concerned. theyre dreamin'!

realitycheck - if you hate it so much here and can't stand it, there's the door, don't let it hit you in the ass on your way out!

And yes, they are the worst mods ever on MV - you can't have your own opinion or mind over there. If you don't like something, you should be able to voice your opinon. Lawd knows you are paying for it. You should be able to give your two cents on any subject matter over there that involves Keith Urban. And if you want to say, "I'm not such a big fan of his wife's," that should be okay. God forbid you complain that you didn't get a BSE or you got shitty seats through a pre-sale. The only thing you can post over there is "Why kind of cookie would Keith be if he was one?" Sorry, my intellectual level is higher than that!

1. This blog isn't written by one person. Someone mentioned “he” as the author while describing this blog. While there might be a “he” writing one or two of the blogs, for the most part this blog is written by women. Many women, not just one or two. This bugs some of our critics because they want us to sign our work. The problem with doing that is that when you see a specific author it becomes so much easier to dismiss what they are saying by strapping baggage on the author. An example: let’s say Amanda signs her blog, then someone in the comment sections says, “Well, what do expect from Amanda? We all know what her agenda is…”, and the message gets lost.

B.S. Every blog written here has the same agenda. Maybe you could make your case if some of the entries were written by people who believe this marriage is real and others that dont. But thats not true now is it? No one knows how many people, if its men and women, or if its just one person. And why should we believe you if you dont want to own up to your own work?

RESPONSE: If you actually read the blogs instead of bashing the posters you’d see that there is quite a variety of opinion amongst the bloggers about this relationship. I know at least one of the bloggers personally, and she believes that the marriage is real…not a contract. She believes it’s the biggest mistake that Keith Urban has made in a very long time, but she believes it’s real. I guess the way I look at this is…I don’t really care if you believe the bloggers or not. This is a place for people to post opinions and express feelings. You can believe that or not.

2. No comment is ever deleted by the administrator in the comments section. The only way a comment is deleted is by the author. As much as everyone wants to jump on the “there is no free expression on any Keith Urban related site”, here at Urban Myths, that is just not true. Express all you want. There isn't a Luke/Foxy/Amber like moderator here.

Not deleting comments here doesnt make this site better or worse. It is what it is. If you post anywhere you have to accept the terms of the site. But i will warn anyone who decides to post support for the couple...dont be surprised when you are called names, retaliate and then be told that you (and only you, not the skeptics) should stop the behavior. Or to be told you should go away or that they'd like to shut you up. Its all happened to me. This isnt a place for civilized debate. And nice dig at the other moderators btw, its not going unnoticed.

RESPONSE: There are multiple sites on the net for people to post about Keith and Nicole. But you know as well as I do that unless it’s the “company” line blowing sunshine up everyone’s butt, you can’t express an honest feeling or opinion on any of the “usual” sites. You can express anything you want on here. You will get a response…and the “civilized” debate goes both ways. I’ve seen more nasty stuff posted against the skeptics than against the supporters. The supporters often talk about how “hateful” the posts toward Keith and NK are, but honestly, the hate spewed toward the skeptics is truly scary.

3. There is a basic belief here that Nicole Kidman has ruined Keith Urban's life. Well yes and no. Keith does a fine job of screwing up on his own and he chose to be publicly connected to Kidman, but many feel Keith had no clue what the botoxed wonder was going to do him and his career. Where do we find our evidence about that? One word: rehab.

No. Keith was an addict years before he met Nicole. He had the same issues of not feeling comfortable being off the road as he did then. If you want to blame Nicole then you'll have to blame Nintendo for not keeping him occupied enough. Addicts constantly have to keep their disease in check. It doesnt matter how well your life is going. If you have self-esteem issues, personal issues that no one but you can work on then a marriage no matter how good it is isnt going to prevent you from bad behavior. They can support you, give you guidance but the addict has to do the work. Maintenance of the disease is a hard road.

RESPONSE: Do you honestly think that the fact he unraveled in the late summer and fall of 06, and required THREE months of treatment for “alcohol abuse” (and I think we all know it goes well beyond alcohol abuse) had NOTHING to do with his marriage to the queen of Australia? Seriously…do you honestly believe this? At the same time he was talking about being balanced, he looked depressed and was apparently out of control. Sorry…the man had been dealing with his demons for years. What prompted the depression and ultimate spiral out of control at that time if it wasn’t the realization of where he was and who he was chained to? I believe that he was trying to get out of the relationship by acting out…by being more unbalanced than he’d ever been, but NK wouldn’t let go.

4. This isn't a gossip site. There are far better ones out there. We do talk about what is in the news and sometimes what we reckon the answers are may be based on some gossip. But this isn't the place to find out what kind of underwear Keith Urban wears. While some may know, that is not what we do here.

Keiths choice of underwear or lack thereof isnt whats in the gossip papers and you know it Umyths. Let me alert the newbies to Umyths Gossip Hound where the tabloids are collected for the skeptics enjoyment. The blog is 100% based on gossip. Theres a huge focus on Kidman allegedly faking a pregnancy which is what the gossip blogs like Lainey are talking about. So its gossip there but not here??? A few truths here and there like dates that anyone with a computer can verify are sprinkled in for an appearance of legitimacy. But dont be fooled. This has nothing to do with finding the truth as they claim. What does the truth have to do with silly polls, old unverified nasty rumors posted at the top of the page to made look as though they are fact. Pictures with what they think are witty captions making fun of Nicole. This site is a place to bash Nicole Keith and if youve read previous blog entries, their unborn child as well.

RESPONSE: The blog is based on gossip, news reports, concert reviews, opinion, experience, some inside knowledge, instinct and humor. As far as finding the truth…it depends on whether you want to hear the truth or not. Most people can be honest enough to admit that something does NOT appear natural about these two people. Most people can admit that Keith’s career is declining. It isn’t a free fall, but there is no doubt that it isn’t what it was in 2005. And why is that? Most people would tell you that his whole approach to his career is changed since his involvement with Kidman. And before you say that he’s in love and deserves a private life, I have no argument with that. But most men are able to have a loving relationship and fulfilling private life AND career. Why is Keith unable to focus on his career and put some effort into it? That answer is obvious to most of us…but I’ll leave it for you to answer.

5. People do read this site and some take it seriously. Sorry, but this site is read and interpreted. Some feel that it is a safe place that isn't full of photo ops and engineered writing. How can we say that? Because we have learned to spot Kidman’s self-promotion and manipulation.

I feel sorry for anyone who takes this site as a place for real info. I can read and interpret the writings here quite clearly Umyths. The photo ops are in your tabloid archive. You dont put them on the front page but you have them, you that little link on the right hand side. And engineered writing? I dont recall fake conversations that take the same negative direction, based on opinion only, as examples of truthful prose.

RESPONSE: You know…you are trying desperately to discredit everything on here. But the truth is, that there is lots of truth mixed in with the sarcasm and humor. Anyone who takes the conversations or songs or letters as truth is delusional. But we all recognize small truths in the irony of it all…and that, I think, is what bothers some so much! Get a grip … take a deep breath and lighten up, already.

6. While you may worship Nicole Kidman and especially Keith Urban, we don't. Keith is a gifted performer. He was on his way to the top until Kidman took up with him. Then we have seen that he was in a train wreck. But for many of us we already knew he was just a guy, imperfect with warts, who was ruthless and ambitious. Some felt he was sincere but for many he isn't anymore.

Ahhh there's another fallacy. Why is it that any fan of Nicole's isnt just a fan...they worship her??? Same goes for KU. Anybody that didnt think Keith was just a guy before he met Nicole doesnt have a grasp on celebrity. They are all just people with their lives, good and bad, magnified for the world.

RESPONSE: It’s hard to imagine that some of the “supporters” of Nicole, who essentially defend her every move and have obviously put her up on a pedestal, are simply fans. I’ll take your word for it, however. As far as Keith goes…most of the people who post on this blog were not naïve about the pre-Kidman Keith, either. But anyone who has followed Keith’s career for any period of time has got to know that he has changed SINCE NK. The behaviors are obvious to all of us. The decline in his career cannot be denied. And those changes are linked, in many people’s opinions, to this union. The emasculation of Keith Urban begain in early 06 and although not likely complete, seems to have reduced him to a mere shadow of his former self. His sense of style is gone. His demeanor is that of an A list Hollywood star, who is very aware of his superior class. His creative drive seems to have retreated into the same cavernous white bag that holds his testicles. As GQ noted, he is in the top 20 of the most p-whipped men in the world…what a title to hold.

7. We know that one day this marriage and relationship will end. How? Who knows, but it will.

Now you are a crappy prophet Umyths? Thats not good enough to give a blanket statement that the marriage will end, that proves you know nothing. Half of all marriages end in divorce. Its just the skepti-hater way to cover your ass just in case they separate. Then you can say you were right. But no one here would know why the marriage dissolved. BTW, many of their fans hope the marriage ends in old age when one of them passes on to a better place. And I hope you have figured out that Nicole is forever linked to Keith since they have a child on the way. If you cant accept her now well good luck seeing her for possibly the next 50 years!

RESPONSE: Although you’d like to discredit us, by having us predict the date and time of the dissolution of this marriage, the idea that anyone can predict that is ludicrous. Even you aren’t willing to place a bet on it’s longevity. Many of the “skeptics” believe that something changed when Keith was in rehab and he emerged with a renewed commitment to this marriage. It looks to everyone that all the effort to make it work are being put forth by Keith. But still, few of us believe it will last for long. At some point, I think he will get tired of the manipulation and neediness of NK…and start to assert himself … but I have to admit to being concerned at how long he is catering to her every whim, at the disadvantage of his own life, and career. That is bound to generate resentment in time…in my opinion.

8. Nicole Kidman is a vain, manipulative, insecure famewhore who is incapable of interest in anything or anyone other than herself. Her career is in free fall and she is using her fictional personal life to bolster her ego even if it destroys her children, parents, sister and husband.

Where in the world is this coming from? How is it in free fall when she had to turn down two roles because of a pregnancy and has several projects lined up post-baby? Directors and actors want to work with her. How will she destroy her family? I want details!

RESPONSE: NK’s career is not going gang busters…surely you can see that. Her last three movies have not been successful. Fur, The Invasion and Margot were not received well. Golden Compass may have done well overseas, but in the US, it was a bomb…and we all know that the US is THE market that must be satisfied. Many articles named her as “box office poison.” She has been subject to increasing criticism on everything from her obvious lack of interest in her children (fortunately, she is going to be a mother again, so it’s OK that she’s deserted her first two “adopted” children) to her obsession with her appearance. Since her pregnancy, her constant vigorous exercising has been noted with concern. Her addictive use of botox, her obvious lip enhancements, and her long standing eating disorder are commented on and in many cases ridiculed in multiple gossip and celeb news sites both on line and in print. Of course, her insistence that she is “all natural” just fuels the ridicule. Honestly…if people haven’t noted that the media have turned on NK, they do not want to see it. It’s that simple.

9. No one here wishes any harm to our critics or Keith and Nicole. It would be great if she just went away, but since she is here for the time being, we are here to watch everything unravel. As for our critics, we don't understand the devotion or the misinformation unless you are paid to present them, but you exist and we won't deny it.

Oh thank you Umyths for acknowledging our existence. Im so grateful. So lets see what has unraveled...absofreakin'lutely nothing. Keith and Nicole's marriage stayed strong through rehab. They are almost to their 3rd anniversary. They are having a baby and the pregnancy is progressing normally. Keith is getting rave reviews on his tour. His albums are selling despite cd sales going down the toilet. He's had multiple artists from country bluegrass and pop ask him to record duets. All this after rehab and his supposed fake marriage.

What exactly do you do Umyths while waiting cause youve spent alot of time doing just that with no payoff.

RESPONSE: I think that most of the skeptics are sad to see the talented Keith Urban slowly become someone we don’t recognize. Yes…he is an unbelievable talent. That’s why so many are still here…because we know that he has such potential. The path he started on years ago and that was taking him to the top in 2005 was one we had all wanted for him and felt part of achieving. That may sound “bunny-like” but most of the skeptics were dedicated fans, who voted for him in fan voted awards, bought his music, went to his shows and admired his talent.

So, if he is so successful and if nothing has changed for him, why no #1’s since 2005? Why aren’t his CD’s selling like hotcakes? Why no more awards? In 2005, he wouldn’t have lost a fan voted award. He’d have been nominated in 5 categories and won at least two at the CMT awards. He would be selling out all his shows and it would have been for KEITH that people attended…not Carrie Underwood. So…he did a duet with Nelly Furtado. It’s good…but Keith is not going to become a pop star. He’s too old. That’s just a fact. It’s too late to switch lanes … he is talented enough to get some crossover success, but in the end, if his career is important to him, he needs to focus on his strenghs…and he needs to invest some time in it… and make some new kick butt music. It seems to me he doesn’t really care that much about his career now. He tours cause he loves to perform…not to enhance his career or cater to his fans. His tour is about KEITH URBAN and his need to play for a crowd.

I don’t know what payoff you think that the skeptics want? We are expressing opinions. There is NO desire to see Keith fail…on the contrary. But if he continues to not show interest in his career, it will continue to suffer. That’s not what we WANT to see…but it is what has been predicted by the skeptics. And those who are in denial will have to, at some point, admit that things are not all peaches and cream. If he turns this around while still with NK … I think you’ll find that most of the skeptics will be thrilled, surprised, yes, but happy for him.

10. While some of our critics are paid to post, no one here is making any profit by writing what we do. So go back and read and if you want, and please comment. We want and encourage the feedback. No one will erase your words. We promise.

If you are going to claim they are paid you'll have to do just more than just say it for anyone to take you seriously. I have no doubt you arent getting paid because what you are presenting here isnt worth anything. Its just bashing disguised as a fact-finding mission. Which has had about as much success as finding WMD's in Iraq.

RESPONSE: This is typical bashing, which tends to be the ‘backup’ plan for many of the supporters who can’t argue the point, so go for the jugulars. I think the supporters feel that their attacks divert the attention of those who are reading the blog away from the content. For the most part, it discredits the person who writes the bash…and not the content of the blog. I would prefer to read opinions on the topic instead of on the person who wrote the blog. But suit yourself.

realitycheck doesn't read the blogs - just bashes the people that write them. Wouldn't that be a hypocrite if she wrote one? Remember her feelings about this site anyway! Writing a blog is supporting the blog site!

I can honestly say that I do not know another soul on this blog, at least not to my knowledge. I am and have been a Big Keith Urban fan from way back when not too many people even knew who he was. I loved the fact that his music was totally & completely origional, that he exuded raw sexuality and had IT, you know that something that you can't exactly put your finger on! But unfortunately that was the Keith of old, with all his demons. Most people don't get the pleasure or challenges in their lifetime to know or be surrounded by creative talented people. Creative beings are definately in a world all their own with all their quirks, excessive behaviors, the brilliant unexpected that their mind creates along with the downside of being much more susceptable to addictive destructive behavior. But it is ALL those things that makes them exciting. The zombies over at Monkeyville have totally white washed what really IS.They would have us all believe that Saint Keith fell off his pedestal and the Botox queen came sweeping up in her white Bently and saved his poor soul. What a lot of hog wash!!

I would never claim to know all the inside details. What I do know comes from impecable sources that have closes ties to people inside and have never told me one thing that did not turn out to be true. I at one time was a member of Monkeyville as well as a couple of other KU sites, but I am so tired of the KU holy rollers that think they know what they are talking about & how wonderful sunshiney everything is in KU land.That none of the guys in the band ever cheat on their wives & Ku is just as happy as a little clam. That is the biggest bunch of bulls**t that I have ever heard.(What hole do these people live in??) Let's put it this way,if all these little let's keep it clean & pure as our little Keith drones over at MV knew that their hero & some members of his bands' little escapades would rival many porn movies, they probably would just all fall down into one big blubbering heap! Who knows the shock might actually send a few into cardiac arrest!! Those die hards at MV need to get a BIG dose of reality & see that he IS just a man albeit an extremely talented musician who was on his way up until he met the life sucking bat face kidman who took his balls along with his free will & personality and keeps them in her designer bags! At least it isn't me who has to wake up every day looking at that bad halloween mask looking face!

Have any of you ever had someone close to you be in a relationship that you could see had totally changed them into someone you no longer knew? That the person they were involved with had so much control over them that they were no longer any semblence of the same wonderful exciting person, but they were so totally brain washed that they could not even see what was going on? Well, I have & Keith's empty look sure looks the same way to me.

I frankly miss the Keith, who exuded sex, that made me want to jump his bones, pre NK who spoke to us through his wonderfully raw creative music, not this candy coated over produced generic sound of the last few years.

Every little detail on this blog may not be true but, I do know for a fact that there is a lot of truth in what has been said. What I like about this blog is you can say what is on your mind, be in good company for those of us that miss the real Keith, be among others that can't stand the old ugly hag that is ruining his career & sucking the life out of Keith and above all not to have your message deleted & to endure (that as someone else on this blog said) having sunshine blown up your a**!

Do we have a traitor among us?? It looks like REALITYCHECK may bear a strong resemblence to one of the Monkeyville moderators! "This isnt a place for civilized debate. And nice dig at the other moderators btw, its not going unnoticed."

" btw, It's not going unnoticed"??? Who are you trying to intimidate??

At least their words make it look that way! Maybe you should go back to your web of lies,deceit & whitewash that mask the real KU! Maybe you would have better luck getting that famous men's magazine to retract their listing of Keith being one of the top 20 most p***y whipped guys/stars...Good luck!

RC-as always, don't let the door hit you in the behind. Go start you OWN blog. But answer me this before you leave...why is it that you defend kidman so? Why are you such a worshiper of hers? What has she EVER done for you?

Let me start off saying that I was not a big fan of NK. I saw very few movies of hers and always felt as if she road the coat tales of her hubby TC. After the news of her dating Keith, I didn't feel the need to decide to like her. I did however try to give her a chance at possibly changing my mind about her. I read interviews, papers, magazines, websites and the love just didn't grow for me.

Does that make me a bad person? I don't think so. Many people don't care for their friends better halfs, why should it be any different how we feel for those we admire whether it be in music, film or art. I didn't get what the attraction was, but didn't really care. I hoped that Keith would be happy and we'd see this. Personally, I didn't see this happen. My opinion.

The more I read, the more I saw Keith Shrinking into something other then what we loved about him.

No one forced me to come aboard here, I decided this myself just recently. There are some things that maybe I don't agree with, but I see where the UM's are coming from. If anyone is not happy with what is written or posted here, then why stay? You can still be a fan of Keith's and read here. Hell, you can still be a fan of NK and read here. It is YOUR choice.

For what it is worth, I still enjoy his music. I hope he is happy, and if he's not, I hope one day he will be. As for his wife, I am sure she is doing just fine. She has everything she wants. Doesn't she?

Since I am new here, if I hadn't done some reading from some old posts from 2007 this afternoon, I would be totally in the dark about the cheetos & big red soda comments. Since I just joined a few days ago I missed all that. But it's funny to see the comments about that after my last 2 comments, since I was just reading about the fat assed, cheeto eating thing earlier and found myself laughing so hard tears were rolling down my cheeks. You guys are a hoot!!!

It's good to find other KU fans that will speak freely. In Nashville it has been much talked about but no one will say it in public...jobs could depend on it. All the antics that have gone on by KU AND some of the band are well known, but always kept on the down low. His publicist keeps quite busy keeping anything to do with Ku that is negative quiet. None the less it is talked about around town.It has not gone unnoticed that the queen who is too good for us mere mortals has hurt Ku's image as well as his popularity. Talk is he's on the way out. I would sure love to have the old Keith back.

On a lighter note I think I will take my fat ass & turn on the TV, & get my bag of cheetos!!

"Hey guys, I just got an email from somebody with the initials O-L saying he misplaced his shea butter and desperately needs it back. Anybody pick it up by accident?"

If it's Bathy & Body Works, I have it and I'm not given it up. My heels are cracked from the winter, and I need all the shea butter I can get now to look good in sandals for the summer. Tell "O L" he's screwed!

Exactly Zoe! Keith is not perfect but I still love him. MV only allows shiny, happy, positive things, so Keith is always perfect. I have sent this blog to a few of my friends and a couple of them have put this blog in their bookmarks.

I hope what you hear is true and Keith is on the way out of that nightmare and hopefully can get back to the 'old' Keith minus the alcohol.

I think it's mostly that the demand for his music is not like it used to be for a lot of the same reasons that are discussed here & also the last album I think has been somewhat of a disappointment for a lot of people. But I still have high hopes that the old Ku will reappear sooner or later!! We all have to have hope don't we?

notachance, we dont always agree but i take your comment about my post as a compliment.

isitoveryet, thank you for proving one of my points in my previous post. How many times is it now that ive been told to go away because i dont share the prevailing opinion? On a forum that espouses all views are welcome no less. For the newbies reading, I have not said i hated it here. Believe me, if it was such torture i wouldnt bother. But the fact that i am told to shut up and leave by the very posters who love it here because they can say whatever they want is too funny. Its delicious irony really. And it proves i am right where i should be.

cricket, have you ever heard the saying "If you cant say anything nice dont say anything at all"? Its not appropriate to say whatever you feel whenever you want all the time. That includes the internet when certain guidelines have been set up by mods. Anyone who reads this blog knows the skeptics dont just want the freedom to say they dont like Nicole. If that were the case it would stop there on this kind of blog. They want to call her names, criticize her every move and, Keith for marrying her. Its never been a simple case of not wanting to be part of a sheep mentality. It has much more to do with spreading a negative opinion and hopefully damaging her image. Thats the best they can do because they cant get rid of her. Some of you may not be as invested as all that, but thats my observation of many of the regular posters here and at the Awful Truth board.

banbotox, as always, i have no intention of leaving here. Since Im not leaving i dont feel I have to answer your question. But i will anyway. I dont worship Nicole Kidman. Do any of you post on boards about celebrities you do like? Hypothetically lets say i decide to join Dierks Bentley's fanclub, they have an active web community. And i post there that i love every album, i think hes gorgeous, ive seen him 5 times in concert, his wife is beautiful, and i cant wait for his live album to come out, is that worship? No. If i make equivalent positive comments pertaining to Nicole and her films is that worship then? No, why would it be? If i dont question Keith's every move and critique his every comment and pour over his interviews to see if he's lying is that worship? Hardly. You are confusing worship with really liking someone and what they bring into the world. I dont expect celebrities to *do* anything for me. But if i find what they are doing entertains me, moves me, brings something positive to this world, then Im going to celebrate that if i so choose. I find personally that is the case with both Keith and Nicole's work. I dont expect a celebrity to be perfect. Perfection does not interest me. I expect...I want them to have flaws and foibles like all of us. Some we will find out about and others we will not because we wont ever really *know* them. And although i dont want them to be perfect i have no desire to account for all their shortcomings and broadcast them over the internet either. By demeaning every facet of her existence you are stripping Nicole of her humanity. Which to me is very wrong. And not just Nicole but any celebrity treated in the same manner. I am not of the opinion that everyone alive should think Nicole Kidman and/or Keith Urban are exceptional human beings. But there is a limit to the denigration. And a point when the endless negative comments about her become much more about the people saying them than the person they were trying to insult in the first place.

zoe, I'm flattered that you think i work for the enemy so to speak but Im happily employed elsewhere. I used the words "other moderators" because I included Umyths in that group...mods of KUNK (both pro and con) websites. And i wanted them to know that no matter how Umyths words the blogs, i read between the lines. Certain Umyths bloggers arent as frank in how they express themselves and choose more subtle language.

For those of you that suggest i write a blog and submit it to Umyths, well, you'll have to find another poster for that. If i were to even consider writing a piece, i would start my own blog and happily take credit for my writings. Visitors should know exactly who they are reading and where they are coming from IMO. However, i have no need to do this since i already have that. This site is a decent enough forum for opposing opinion. I dont care to put in the effort necessary to maintain a blog. I know the skeptics have ulterior motives for telling me to start my own site. And its not so I'll be happier. They'd just like me to be somewhere else so that they dont have to bother seeing my opinions. Funny thing is once they read my name they are free to skip over my post and ignore me. And yet many dont. You'll have to come to your own conclusions as to why that is.

Thanks RC for answering my questions. I have to tell you that it made me laugh, sorry.

Since you seem to be fighting celebrity denigration and working very hard to save celebrity humanity, I hear Amy Whinehouse is looking for you. Do you post on E! or Dlisted to save those poor downtrodden celebs too or just here?

For the record, I do believe you are a worshiper and see kidman as a perfect role model, even though you won't/can't admit it here but that's okay, I get it now.

RC said:"And a point when the endless negative comments about her become much more about the people saying them than the person they were trying to insult in the first place."

This I must agree with (and perfectly put if you ask me). It's one thing to not care for an actor's body of work, and what you perceive to be their personal life, but what is spewed upon this blog is far more than that and I have often questioned the posters about the hate and how that is not only more hurtful to themselves, but most definitely a window into their souls. It is not good for your own well being to feel that way - about anyone.

And it appears that RC & I are on the same page these days. She says, quite well I might add, very much what I feel about all of this. I'm not an NK worshiper by any means, but I might still enjoy a movie of hers (maybe not lately but actually looking forward to Australia) - I'm not a cool-aid drinking member of Monkeynuts, but I can still enjoy the hell out of his concerts and be willing to admit it. I wear no blinders, and I am accepting of things as they are and don't feel the need to trash anyone. I can criticize, but that isn't the same as the hateful trashing that takes place here everyday.

1. As the girls say at the KLUB (Keith L Urban Board) used to say "If you can't say anything nice about somebody come sit by me."

2."It has much more to do with spreading a negative opinion and hopefully damaging her image. "

Granny Freeze/Skank of Sydney/The Ice Queen does a fine job of that all on her own. She doesn't need any help from anybody.

Zoe I wondered the same thing. Did you mean he's quickly losing the music career he worked so long and hard to gain in the space of, say, 3 years or did you mean he's getting fed up with Nic and her games and is on his way out of the marriage?

I miss the days of Keith getting to be himself and the public not hearing about it. His old publicist (whom I think NK, I mean KU, fired?) really did an excellent job keeping his "extracurricular activities" out of the mainstream consciousness. NK really needs to learn some secrets are best left in the closet and all publicity is not good publicity.

Sadly those days are long gone. She has alienated him from his Nashville friends, he's so busy carrying her water bottle he can't be bothered to spend any time promoting his career, attending industry functions, or creating new music, and without new material his career is dead. Nail 1: Love Pain CD. Nail 2: GH CD. Nail 3: The insult to fans that ordered the GC CD where he only recorded 2 songs. Nail 4, 5, and 6: No fan club party or Fan Fair appearance of his own for three years now. Nail 7: Taking his name off Max it Out and turning it over "to someone else to run" (the charity he started but pretty much dumped when she came into his life). Nail 8 (for me): The "Charitable Organization" Keith said he was leaving Max it Out for to start but three years later has never materialized. Add no new material and the coffin is sealed tightly shut.

As many Scorpios Keith is stubborn and temperamental. I'd love to see him take "his child" and run from NK like Tom did but I don't think he will. At least not anytime soon. Haven't seen maclen's latest chart update but IMO Keith is well on his way to having a career he can't bring back from the grave. Such a sad, needless end to a talented musician's career and it didn't have to be that way. Too bad he allowed it to happen.

Something cj said reminded me of the CMA music festival last year. I couldn't tell you how many times we'd be at some autograph memorabilia stand or wherever, and we would hear country music fans saying that they can't believe Keith isn't making another performance. General concensus is that it is his loss while other new talented artists are performing - are being noticed and are starting to move into his position. You can't think you can remain at the top and not have to work for it. There are others that are just as hungry, if not more.

Isitoveryet, this site seems to be a last refuge to those few stragglers... a few NKUsers and monkeylander refugees who are exiting the fog of the feel good and only polite speak of those shallow fawnsites...who sense the counting down of the clock on the orbs career...and the certain death rattle of kidmans career. Its all very simple... kidman is and always was a very mediocre actress... she was granted a few years under the favorable limelight and now its over. The orb is now suffering from a badly thought out PR relationship and her mediocre PR team. He is on the way out, and kidman is out, no matter how much the desperate devoted kick and scream...

go ahead and hang around RC.....you're not gonna change any of our minds. and we, i'm sure, are not gonna change yours.

what i can't believe is that anybody thinks there is something right about the KUNK relationship when we see evidence in pics that speak otherwise. and keith's career has gone downhill just since she entered his life.

if i thought he was with a woman who could love him or anybody but herself, then i'd be supremely happy for him and his pending fatherhood. and, if he had nurtured his career and been half-way good to the fans, since marriage. but he has not.

i have read various accounts (a long time ago, so i don't remember exactly where) that NK is a bear to work with. spoiled beyond belief. one person said "i have never seen anybody with a stronger sense of self and of her own importance than Nicole Kidman. and these aren't gossip sites either. i remember them as being pretty reputable. and since NK has not shown me a different side, i choose to think she is horrible for keith and this sham of a marriage needs to end. and now there's an innocent life involved.

so hang around, your posts of trying to convince us skeptics of to think contrary than what we do are just a waste of time.

"Above all those clones from Monkeyville could actually see that the batface woman aka NK did not "save" Keith, she just bound & constrained his talent like a geisha girl has her feet bound to keep them small.

Zoe - spot on! (claps hands standing)

I've read a long time and while not commenting, I enjoy each and every new article (hope that's the right word).

I have tried to my part in getting this blog noticed behind the scenes by going to GOOGLE every day and search for Urban Myths Blog. It may have not have helped, but it can't hurt.

I've also noticed that when I go to Topix and search Keith Urban, this Blog tends to show up in the results.

I can always count this blog at the very least for a giggle or two and sometimes one of those "Ah-Ha" moments. There are a lot more people reading (and enjoying it) than you may think.

"It always amazes me how you bring up her name to the general public, and the majority of the people don't think much of her as an actress or a person."

Or think she's a bad, horrible, nasty, mean person and actress. And the people who have worked with/around her have nothing much good to say about her either. Sadly, now when I bring up his name people say "How sad he let her ruin his career." Surely he heard of the "Kidman Kurse" before getting together with her. If only Lenny had warned him. No one in Nashville either had the guts or the authority to make him listen.

banbotox, dont feign politeness with me. I dont have any delusions about what you think of me. I dont read D Listed but i do read the E! board to keep up on what the hateration squad saying. Laugh away while you post on every anti-KUNK thread over there. However i am sane enough not to post my opinions where they would get lost amongst the pages and pages of mindlessness. At least here there are a few posters with some common sense and/or ability to hear out the other side, even if we dont always agree. I do see NK as a role model and think you have misconceptions about role models. If they are your parents, a celebrity, mentor etc., they are not perfect. If they claim to be they are selling a load of snake oil. And pretending to "get" what you mock doesnt give the skeptics any credence to the cause.

notachance, thanks for acknowledging what i know is true.

cj, "If you can't say anything nice about somebody come sit by me."should be the skeptics motto. I'm glad Im not a member of that club.Ive notced more and more that the skeptics especially over at the Awful Truth cant post one sentence, make one point, without name calling. And yet you claim Nicole does enough damage to herself. I highly doubt that, or the posts wouldnt have gotten more frequent and vicious. Why put forth so much effort if Nicole is her own worst enemy? Let her sink herself. Well its because they thought Keith would have fled The Madwoman Of Sydney by now and they just dont know what to do with themselves!

And zoe proves once again that even an innocent baby is not beyond ridicule. After the birth of the baby, which will be entirely faked of course, right skeptics?, the name of the baby will be twisted into some horrible moniker, just like Nicole's other two children are mocked. The skeptihaters, not the casual skeptic, but the true skeptihaters have no conscience when it comes to things like this.

maclen, i post at NKU, Monkeyville and CMT. Just like i am not exiting here, i am not exiting there. You can try to explain away my presence but ive already given the real reasons. The only noise Im hearing are the haters, who scream, shriek, rant and rave, every day as Nicole and Keith have the audacity to live their lives as they see fit.

doublewide, that quote from Marty Kihn I would take with a grain of salt. He is a comedian and writer turned business consultant who sees the stars from a distance, thinks he knows them...and had a book to sell. He words the quote very carefully and IMO reveals he's never actually even spoken to her.

isitoveryet, how naive do you think i am? I know full well there are more than 10 of you. There's more than 10 of us. But i also know for a fact that regular posters here are regular posters on the E! board, even of they dont use the same screen name. The wheels of the KUNK hate machine are turned by less people than you'd like us to think.

realitycheck - once again, you show you have no personality/sense of humor. Well, maybe you wouldn't understand this because Kidman is a God to you, but we don't mock Isabella & Connor's names. Those are good solid names. We mock the fact that Kidman comes up with other names to call them because she can't remember their names due to never seeing her kids!

My sis just watched the cmt awards. (I haven't gotten around to it yet. Some of us were working the night before the April 15 deadline.) Anyway, she asked me if I'd seen Keith lately. I asked why. She said he looked awful at the award show. Very gaunt like he'd lost a lot of weight. I'm guessing the stress of NK in HIS adopted home town would do that to a person. Fear of what she'd say, who she'd offend, what people would think of her and "them" together. Would his neighbors buy the lie or see through it like one of her many transparent dresses. I thought if a non-KU fan (my sis is more Toby Keith than Keith Urban) can see something is wrong then nobody can miss it.

isitoveryet, more placing of your own delusions about Nicole, in the disguise of a so-called joke. It doesnt surprise me the skeptics think its funny, because its really not.

Ive read posts where the childrens names were called pretentious and that Nicole and Keith will name their child something just as bad. So this teasing isnt just about Nicole. Why believe you anyway? All one has to do is read this blog to know no one associated with KUNK is exempt from ridicule here.

Silence on the comment i made about the "baby photo"? That doesnt surprise me either.

So, was he bad because she was there "distracting" him or bad because "she wasn't there supporting him" - as usual. Or maybe just the stress of "the tour is almost over and my career may be as well". The thought of having to go home to her with no excuse to escape in sight would make me too sick to perform as well.

CJ, i have had many neutral(meaning non ku or nk fans) people ask me.....what in the world has happened to keith? what's going on with him? he looks like he's aged 10 years...yada yada....i hear it all of the time.

I heard he wasn't himself. It was so bad that some thought maybe he was sick. But he wasn't, they were taping for a DVD, and there were a lot of technical difficulties and he was getting pissed off on stage - road crew hasn't ever seen him this pissed - Atlanta 2006 was nothing compared to this. He even made a comment during the show something like "Take the spotlight off me, I'm getting sick of this." He actually said that in the mic! Nice! I'm sure heads rolled last night. Earlier in the week, he did a radio interview in Atlanta, and said that this would be a really long show on Friday night because it was almost the ending of the tour for the Painful album. He said they would be doing a lot more songs and a few they never did before. None of that happened. Could he have been trying to fill the seats that weren't selling? The standing room only general admission area that was located at the end of the round stage hardly had anyone there. It also appeared that there were more people there to see Carrie then him. The crowd was into him at first, but as his attitude changed through the show, fans didn't care to give him any loving back as well.

rc - just for the record. I personally like the names Isabella and Connor. I know of two people who named their girls that, and another friend that named their boy that. I don't have issues with the kids or their names. They seem to be two great kids. I have an issue about their dead-beat mom!

CMT Featured Photo - Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban Attend Predators Game. You're not kidding when you say he's aged quickly. She's as smoothed foreheaded as ever though. And people dare say she'll put this child first when she won't even stop the botox (or botox like substance) during pregnancy. I can't even imagine how a person can be so selfish. I've heard all kinds of rumors but I still can't grasp how a person can be so self centered.

I knew there was a reason I hadn't been to cmt.com in a year or so. Ohhh yeah, now I remember.

doublewide - the first night was bad in Atlanta in 2006. Not good to say "Who the F let them in here?" When you fans sneak into soundcheck, and for the first time, he doesn't want them in there. I know of other fans who have snuck into soundchecks before, and he was perfectly fine with them being there as long as they behaved themselves.

I think its interesting that he was more ticked off last night and took it out on stage compared to 2006.

cj - were those pics from the first game they went to? Did he have the Preds jersey on in this pics? If he has a dark hoodie on, pay close attention to her profile in those pictures. I don't get where people say she is so beautiful. IMO, she looks more like a science experience from the side! I didn't think chins, lips and jowls naturally could look that way!

More filming for a dvd? Didn't they do lots of filming on the last leg of the tour? I *thought* the dvd would come out with the GH album but it didn't. It makes no sense to do a big DVD (like Living Right Now) for a concert that isn't selling out based on albums that didn't sell well. Surely the label doesn't think a DVD will help any more than the GH release did.

I heard he wasn't himself. It was so bad that some thought maybe he was sick. But he wasn't, they were taping for a DVD, and there were a lot of technical difficulties and he was getting pissed off on stage - road crew hasn't ever seen him this pissed - Atlanta 2006 was nothing compared to this. He even made a comment during the show something like "Take the spotlight off me, I'm getting sick of this." He actually said that in the mic! Nice! I'm sure heads rolled last night. Earlier in the week, he did a radio interview in Atlanta, and said that this would be a really long show on Friday night because it was almost the ending of the tour for the Painful album. He said they would be doing a lot more songs and a few they never did before. None of that happened. Could he have been trying to fill the seats that weren't selling? The standing room only general admission area that was located at the end of the round stage hardly had anyone there. It also appeared that there were more people there to see Carrie then him. The crowd was into him at first, but as his attitude changed through the show, fans didn't care to give him any loving back as well.

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yikes! i'm glad the tour is nearly over.....thanks for the info. i knew about the radio interview where he talked about a long show and more songs....no delivery on that, huh

Here's an account of what happened from a fan. Technical difficulties were the reason for Thursdays less than stellar show.

"The show was very good, but not Fantastic. At one point he asked them to take the spot light off of him and he stated that he had enough of it! He did not do Everybody and took a quick bow with the guys and litterally ran off the stage. We were very suprised. Well, after the show some people went back to the resturant and met some of the crew there. This is what they said...The other country music video channel was there filming as well as Keiths people filming for a live DVD in November. There feeds were interfearing with each other and it was causing the giant screen to pixilate. When Keith tried to rise up on the platform it got stuck and he had to get off and run around to the stage in the dark and he almost fell. When he asked them to turn the spot light off they didn't, and he was very upset about the way the whole night went. The crew said they had never seen him so mad. I guess there was lots of planning that went into this 3 night filming of the live DVD not to mention the expense. Still he is only human and only the die hard fans noticed anything. I will continue with Firday night on another post

Friday night was totally diferent. We were on the floor for one thing. Not in a very good spot, but we were able to stand the whole night right below the little stage behind the GA standing room only spot.Carrie was way better Friday night. The sound was good. When Keith came out he was on fire. Everything went well. He stopped and talked several times. He read signs and said hello to many people. He added back in "Used to the Pain". He also, did a solo acustic song, I am not sure what it was (not his). He took this little girl who was 9 on the stage and she gave him roses. I got a picutre and emailed it to them today. She was so thrilled. Before that she had been crying because security was a little tough last night. He gave away a guitar both nights. One to a young man and one to an older man. Last night, he went way up in the stands to do it. He singed one ladies pink cowboy hat with a sharpe in his mouth. It was so funny when he spit it out! He did "Everybody" and stayed out on stage for about 5 minutes after the show. He left with a whole load of goodies in his hands. It was unbelievable! One of the best shows!Before the show at the pre-party we met Jerry Flowers and he posed for pictures with us. Very nice guy, he told us the show would be way better tonight. After the show we went back to the same place. (the Loafin Leprachaun) and we met Chris Rodrigues. He was wonderful and talked to us posed for picutres and shook our hands. It was a fabulous experience and I'm totally exhausted."

There was suppose to be a DVD that came out from the Atlanta 2006 show as well. I was told by someone who was very close to Keith at the time. I was told that there would be cameras pretty much in my face on that Sunday night, and this person was right. I had a camera guy right in front of me. I think they threw that video out because of lack of consistency in performances the two nights, plus Keith screwed up by wearing the bracelet one night and not the other. I was told the guys had to wear the exact same clothes, accessories - everything the same for both nights. Keith obviously didn't listen. If you don't believe me, watch the Stupid Boy video and pay attention to the bracelet.

I also had several people tell me that when they saw him throughout the year, they were filming for a DVD at all of those shows. I'm not sure where all these DVDs are being sold, but they haven't come to a store near me!

I "went in early" to the Waco concert. Way up top - not to my floor seat. He stopped playing pretty quickly after I walked in and one of his road crew quickly escorted me from the building and locked the door behind me. (It was 3pm or so.) I got back in the building and sat outside the doors to the arena for the rest of sound check. He was having sound issues and got pretty, ahem, irritated. The entire building knew it too. I felt sorry for Pat Green - he got to do half of two songs for his sound check then had to quit because they were already running late for opening the doors before he even started sound check. So much for showing the fans love. I was quiet, just sat there, even had my camera put away. I'm surprised anyone saw me at all, let alone Keith from stage even with the stage lights turned off. That was the day I learned many rumors I'd heard about him were true.

isitoveryet, the dvd from Atlanta has been talked about many places.And the inconsistency with the bracelet has as well. What you are saying is correct but its no secret.

Theyve been filming practically every show, if not all of them. Probably to get the most options out of a live DVD that people have been clamoring for. Livin Right Now is such a great dvd that Im sure they want to top it.

doublewide - I had two friends too that didn't stay for the second show, and they were ticked. They got the bad show of the two. We still had a good time though. Had to make our own fun even though we didn't have it during the concert.

It doesn't say much if they have to continually tape the shows for almost a year. The LRN DVD was filmed in two nights. What has changed? Imagine that poor guy's job that has to watch every video from last summer until now to try and find the best performance. To take that much footage of concerts for one DVD is really strange to me.

Yeah, I had heard the days of fans watching sound check were over but I tried it anyway. No one seemed to care I was in the building as long as I wasn't in the 8000 seat "arena". I was there so early I could have parked by the buses but didn't want to get in the way. The band hung out on stage after the show for just a minute. He didn't stick around after the show or come back out on stage afterward either. I guess he had to make a "very important phone call" to his beautiful beautiful princess. No way was she coming to Texas - he had 3 shows in 2 days and 2 of them were at the San Antonio rodeo and stock show. Poor pity me princess might have gotten cow or horse crap on her shoes.

isitoveryet, it must have been the second game. He's wearing a long sleeve navy button down shirt and a black baseball cap. The pic is at http://www.cmt.com/pictures/featured-photo/1536414/2916332/photo.jhtmlShe has a scarf around her neck to hide some of the damage.

I drove 4 hours to get to Waco. I wasn't driving all the way to SA and them home to be back at work on Sunday. I heard they were good shows and he even did some running through the audience there. I thought 3 shows in 2 days when he'd been having "vocal problems" was a dumb idea though. I wasn't risking doing all that driving just to have him cancel the Sat night show at the last minute. I had tickets to the Red River Rivalry concert that he canceled at the last minute and didn't reschedule since Toby Keith stepped in and did it instead.

cj - that pic is from the second night. He doesn't have the jersey on yet. There are different picture than that are on NKU that were taken from the same box they were sitting in. Her profile is horrible. Seeing the two of them standing there, she literally looks like she could be his grandma.

The poor "child inside" will forever be asked "Are those your grandparents with you?" At least Bella doesn't have to worry about being asked if she's baby KUNK's mom - since they will rarely if ever be seen out in public together.

shutup, i had a similar experience. We thought we had an "in" with the rodeo people in Houston since we knew someone's father whose been coordinating it for the last 10 years. He said it would be no problem to get in for soundcheck and we'd get great seats. Well as close as you can at a rodeo LOL Anyway we get there, my brothers fiancee came with us too and forgoed a girls-only spring break trip to see KU since we promised her the goods. We got there and were asked to leave. We said we knew so-and-so but were told absolutely no one allowed in soundcheck. This was March 2004 or 2005. We still got great seats so it wasnt a complete loss.

"But Zoe, I have to ask....what was it that brought to to Nashville in the first place? I take it you're from there since you seem to insinuate that in your posts."

To answer that question, I work in the music business, what else???

"And zoe proves once again that a innocent baby is not beyond ridicule."

I ran across the picture last night & thought some of you might think it was good for a few giggles.I didn't make this up someone else did, I just found it on the link I provided.

"Cute pic Zoe but nothing that large is inside her belly." Yes, I know there is no way what's in side the ice queen is that big!

On a serious note, I would never wish any harm to an innocent child. In fact, I don't wish any harm to the plastic one either, I just wish she would go away & never come back so that Keith could get back to doing what he does best.

I haven't been on the boards much over the last few years because any time anything that ever had any truth to it got posted it was always deleted & I was sicked & tired of all the sunshine, flowers & butterflies crap that was being posted on them. I remember thinking that these people need a good dose of reality, this is bs. For example,I got so tired of hearing what a saint Chris Rodriguez is. Yes he is talented and charming, but he is also a lot of other things.I have seen on other boards over the last few years, what a good christian he is,what a devoted family man he is,how inspirational he is,etc,etc. He has been married twice, he cheated on his first wife & towards the end of that marriage he was cheating with the woman who is now his second wife. Within a year or so into his second marriage he was already cheating on her& has continued to do so.He is the only one that remains from that group (what does that tell you) besides Chris McHugh & he got a divorce during this period of time. I remember several years ago quite a few times seeing little things that happened with different band members & a fan on the MV site or little personal messages to one of the band members, then the next time you would look they would be deleted. They would not allow even a hint of anything to be posted. Mark (before Jerry)left because his wife would not put up with all the drugs, boozing and cheating that was going on,Chad for similiar reasons when he was getting ready to be married,and it was a problem for Steve (keyboardist)& his wife as well. KU sexcapades with more than one girl in one night at different parties are legend. This crazy behavior has been covered up & kept quiet for years and continues to be so, I have no doubt AT ALL most of what we hear about everything being so hunky dory in KUNKville is a bunch of bs too! God forbid anything with any truth be posted on the MV board!

As far as the girl Amanda that was mentioned, she was one but there were many others. I am surprised the Royal one let KU put his nib in her ink since he had already dipped it in so many...um shall we say...cheap common Wal Mart store inks. I am honestly shocked that the oh so pretty Royal princess lowered herself to marry a man that had bedded so many commoners! One could only hope that maybe he might have brought her the gift that just keeps on giving from one of those commoners!

I continue to be amazed that so many still put NK on a pedestal!I frankly am just tired of seeing her ugly face,her sickly looking body & that nappy hair. I hate what she has done to KU, what she has turned him into. I was looking forward to many more years of raw,origional music coming from KU. Now it is as if that all has come to an end and he is just going through the motions.

WOW! I haven't been on here in awhile, but was sent a msg to read the latest blog. I see some old skool "Urbanites" have resurfaced. The sheer mention of his underwear is a dead give-away. It's a sad day on UM when you're going over to MV to recruit new members.And why refer to MV anyway. None of the people on that board are the same people you've ever dealt w/ Zoe. They are all zombies to the Keith Urban experience. They have no idea what it's like to see a show on Friday & see him again on Saturday and get a completely different show. The KU they have now, 2004 Keith & on is no different than post Nicole. I see no changes, except when he dedicates that shitty song to her. (which is when I go buy another beer anyway)

Poor realitycheck, proving her point by immediatly being shown the door again, after her spot on post. Most posters here always bring something comical to the board. I left because you guys don't like stats. You don't like being proven wrong and you completely dismiss the obvious. I guess that would explain why you're recruiting the zombies, because they're far less likely to argue with you about what's right and wrong since they've been so brainwashed on the MV boards.

McFatBoy played for a Gospel band as well, and we all know where that got him. He messed around on his wife with Urban's leftovers and that caused an affair. Now he's married to the leftovers. Wonder how long he will keep it in his pants, if it hasn't come out already? Some of the guys were even caught with minors. This is typical musician stuff, and it goes with the business, but you can't turn around and say these guys are the next thing to God either! THEY ARE MUSICIANS!

I can assure you I am not one of the Zombies from MV. I haven't been a member over there for 3 years. The reason for that is I was tired of pretty much everything posted over there being a bunch of bull sh*t. And to set the record straight,by sexcapades,I wasn't talking about band members just kissing!

Everyday, at least 2 or 3 times a day, I am doing a search for this site..hopefully it'll help get it out there more, so that some of the drones can be converted to the TRUTH!!!!!

The comments have doubled since my reply and it looks like this latest blog sure has rubbed the monkey/goat fur the wrong way.

I read here, Anna's Forehead and E! boards. It's pretty obvious from the patterns I've seen that the worship sites must use a weekly "tag, you're it" method to assign different members the responsibility of posting in defense of the Aussie Power Couple (tm).

You'd think by now, they'd realize no minds are or will ever be changed and save their energy for the next inevitable "scrapbook" project.

Do they earn some kind of "monkey point" for each rebuke of the skeptics they post? Do they think KUNK is keeping a list and will one day thank them in person?

Zoe, I had no doubt what you meant about sexcapades. I just find it very easy to believe that they have no problems crossing the line, since I saw the kind of behavior exhibited by one band member on one night.

isitoveryet posted this about a fan's review of the Atalanta concert:"There were a lot of technical difficulties and he was getting pissed off on stage - road crew hasn't ever seen him this pissed...He even made a comment during the show something like "Take the spotlight off me, I'm getting sick of this"

Then RC provided a copy of the actual review from the CMT board:"At one point he asked them to take the spot light off of him and he stated that he had enough of it! ...When he asked them to turn the spot light off they didn't, and he was very upset about the way the whole night went. The crew said they had never seen him so mad."

-----------------Isitoveryet, you have a very good memory because you paraphrased that fan's review nearly exactly. Thanks RC for copying it over here.

Anyone else see the irony here in KU saying he's had enough of the spotlight?

"I know I feel like crying tonight, both happy and sad tears. I am very curious if Keith felt overwhelmed and got emotional tonight.(?) I'd be willing to bet that, at some point he did. Keith's heart is so big and especially this year, he has been so grateful and has felt so much love from his monkeys. Not to mention his defenses might be down a bit, just from being flat worn out! I am so looking forward to monkeys sharing their stories about this show. I wish I was there!"

No need for sympathy kusnob. I enjoy writing a good post and having it read here. Intimidation is what the strident skepti-haters do best. And its worked in the past on many posters at the E! Board. But there are a few over there that seem to be keeping the positive Keith karma alive. God bless them because i can tell its difficult. I applaud them for sticking to it. I intend to do the same here. So posters here can try and show me the door, but i wont be walking through it.

"I know I feel like crying tonight, both happy and sad tears. I am very curious if Keith felt overwhelmed and got emotional tonight.(?) I'd be willing to bet that, at some point he did. Keith's heart is so big and especially this year, he has been so grateful and has felt so much love from his monkeys. Not to mention his defenses might be down a bit, just from being flat worn out! I am so looking forward to monkeys sharing their stories about this show. I wish I was there!"

Really zoe, sick to your stomach? Sounds like so many posts in the past written by former-fans-turned- skepti-haters who, once they found out he was human, and did what he darn well pleases with his life because he's an adult, got upset and have been throwing a gigantic hissy fit ever since.

"Nicole was back there at the beginning of Keith's show (Carrie was in there too) but she left after a few songs.... everyone was trying to take pictures of/with her. She seemed so embarrassed when they showed her on the big screen when Keith was dedicating Got it right this time."

And yet another quote:

"Don't know what he has exactly. He was having extreme cold chills, felt nauseous, dizzy, and constantly in the bathroom."

My sentiments exactly, sounds just like my reaction to the Bat face sighting & dedication in Lexington! AS for realitycheck...you really do need to get a REALITY CHECK!

Realitycheck...I have lived and worked in Nashville in the music business for years & I know from first hand knowledge that KU is only human.I have seen things that would make you have heart palpatations if not a full on heart attack from the "REALITY" of it ALL. From all the hundreds if not thousands of women he has been with, some of them you would not want in your house (witness to several times at different private parties), believe me. But even the ones you wouldn't have in your house are quite a few steps up from that nappy headed, plastic faced, emaciated, famewhore he married. That I do consider sickening. Down right NASTY! Unless you live & work here most people are clueless to what REALLY goes on and that CLEARLY means you REALITYCHECK! The difference from what you "think" you know and what you really know could fill volumes of epic porportions!

many of the skeptics bitch and moan about keith's music and personal life yet continue to put money in his pocket. if he is who you say he is, he's manipulated the media and his fans, which makes him no different than nk and you no different than the "worshipers" and "bunnies." actually, the "enlightened" should know better.

I can only vouch for myself but i am not a member of Monkeyville sent here to cause trouble. I have never been a fanclub member because a)i live in Australia and i have always had good luck with Ticketek and b) i have met Keith before.

Hand on heart i dont understand this hate you all have for Nicole and maybe some of you do for Keith too.

I do enjoy his music, but the sideshow of his marriage to his hollywood wife just doesn't thrill me. It doesn't make me go "Aww", or "Look how cute". His music is what pulled me in, not who he dated, screwed or married. Do I think she is dragging him down, I do. Does he care, hell no. We are only saying what is on our mind, and sometimes it will be good and sometimes it won't.

Freedom of speech is a good thing, but those of us who come here, are guests (aren't we?) I will try and respect that. I took my shoes off in the hall, now can I have some cheese doodles or something? =)

Casse role, just as I mentioned in my first comment on this thread... when you allow the monkeys and goat herders in the thread, there will be alot of cleaning up to do... so I'll see you on the other side! or the next thread....

Oh yes, the stories we could share. I know of things that happened in Atlanta 2006. Remember, Mum was even with him that weekend, and it still didn't stop him. This has made me suspect that the marriage hasn't been real since I received that little bit of news that weekend.

timtam - since you are from Oz, could you give us some insight as to how her fellow countrymen (or women) feel about her lack of being a mother to her two current children? Wouldn't it have been nice to have the kids with her at Anaheim? Wouldn't it have been nice to have the kids with her last night? You know - make it a family affair. I have heard nothing about Isabella and Connor checking out their new pad in Nash. It seems like old Nicold has waived her custody rights.

I just would like you all to know that I have not pitched a hissy fit in years! I am a recovering hissyfitaholic and I am trying my best to stay clean& sober, but something about realitychecks last few posts make me feel like I am about to relapse! Maybe I need to take a time out!

To quote my elder countrymen "Don't come the raw prawn with me!" Your first query is like the loaded question "Have you stopped beating your wife?". It presumes guilt and doesn't accomplish anything. I wont even pretend to say i know what is going on between Nicole and Tom Cruise, their children, or their custody arrangement. I dont believe anyone here knows anything either.

I was not meaning taking a time out seriously, I was making a jab at realitycheck since she/he seemed to think I was just pitching a hissy fit because of some of my opinions!

"Really zoe, sick to your stomach? Sounds like so many posts in the past written by former-fans-turned- skepti-haters who, once they found out he was human, and did what he darn well pleases with his life because he's an adult, got upset and have been throwing a gigantic hissy fit ever since."

So I likened myself to an alcoholic but instead I am a hissyfitaholic! Instead of drinking I pitch hissy fits (according to rc that is). I guess I was being a smart A** for nothing since no one seemed to get what I meant. No worries I am not offended in anyway. All is well in hissyfitville!

I was over at MV just now, Do you know they have 49018 members, that's 1,468,089.10. You think for that kind of money people could post what they wanted. I'm so sick of all the bullshit. Keith's such a great guy, He love's his wife ('s money)Someone said they had hoped to have some original gritty country music come from the man down under. I don't see that happening anytime soon, Not unless you meant Pussywhippedmusic from Cup-o-joe dad. Wait till KU goes on tour with Kenny, I hear tail's of legendary sexcapades with plenty of white powder for all to share. I'm sure NK's panties will be in a big bunch!

I'd just like to see a show of hands who was here prior to 2004. Now be honest people. Who was a fan PROIR to the barefoot poet era? In other words, if you weren't here before or during Laura/Nikki then you shouldn't be bitching. I've said it from the beginning. Nicole in no way, ruined, mangled, manipulated, enhanced, broadened, opened, closed or had anything to do with his career besides marrying into it. Anyone aware that HE made more money than she did last year? If SHE is ruining HIS career how is THAT possible? Could it be the other way around? I always blame it on McHUGE!

His GH's is doing great on the charts, contrary to what some believe here. He's packing them in at venues (people remember we're in a recession) and that stadium tour with Kenny will only generate more sales in the summer.

I just hate the constant bitching and moaning with no proof of a "Tom Cruise" marriage, (he clearly looks like he loves her), no proof of a bad career, aside of what you girls think, yet you all still go to the shows (hence your tshirt pic), I'm sure more of you are in the fan club than you care to admit, ect ect.

Show me proof, I'll join in your hate fest. Otherwise, I'll be a skeptic of you skeptics.

"The difference from what you "think" you know and what you really know could fill volumes of epic porportions!" I think this about applies to the majority here on this blog, doesn't it?

Everyone who's followed Keith since the Ranch days knows of his "sexcapades", drug habits and multiple, multiple rehab stints - it's really no big secret and why people put blinders on are just really quite stupid! But you're right, he's very human, made numerous mistakes and has always and still is a work in progress. That goes for his previous and current band members...we've all experienced or heard the stories with Chris McHUGE and Chris (monkeyboy)Rodriguez. What I find surprising is people's attitude about it all. It's no different than a huge amount of rock, country and pop bands and it's continued throughout the years. I'm sure you all remember ELVIS!!

So despite the theatrics in the music business - it's his music that drives me. Some may think he's a sellout, some think he's never been better. I happen to think his music has evolved into something different...is it bettter, is it worse or is it just different? I can't put the blame on Nicole Kidman. I could care less about her.

I have to respectfully disagree with you kusnob. He was just starting to win the big awards, and then Kidman enters the room. The awards stopped. CMA ETOY was based on the time before she entered the room. She has hurt his career - the Painful album was suppose to be the sound of their marriage, and it is his worst album to date.

As far as being in love, I see him looking more passionately at fans than his own wife. When he is with her - like on the red carpet - he is very up-tight. I don't see any passion between those two, and why can't they ever make light of their marriage on the red carpet? A reporter at the ARIAs asked them the same funny question he asked everybody else, but the Kidmans were too good to address it for themselves. Keith had to pawn it off on John Butler.

ETOY is based on more than who you're married to. Clearly you guys don't get that. While I can't stand Kenny Chesney, and I'm still baffled by Brad Paisley I don't think that Keith has deserved it for many reasons. He doesn't take good openers with him, his show is stagnant, ect ect. That doesn't have anything to do with Nicole's infulence. You think she told him to do the same thing over and over again months after months, years after years? Nope. Why only one opener? Why openers that have no drive? That make you sit in your seat for the first hour? What's that all about anyway? Let's start with Katrina Elam? The Wreckers? Carrie Underwood? BORING!!! Pat Green? Doesn't go with HIS genre of music. Now, I love Pat Green, but most that love Keith know 2 PG songs. Not the same vibe. Have 2 openers. Have 1 slow boring opener so we can start drinking, 1 really good opener that gets your blood pumping and then by the time he's on stage we're all drunk, forget he's married and have the best show possible and forget that he does the same shoulder roll in Better Half that he's done for the last 5 years. (I'll leave out Gary Allan in this because I love him but they have TOTALLY different vibes)

We could argue this til death, but I'm right (I'm always right). His shows are what matter and if that would change no one would care about her.

You know, this is a really interesting blog...I guess I was one of the stupid people who thought Keith and his band members were saints..lol..this is interesting to know. Keith really slept with a lot of people? I just don't get that..lol..must be a lifestyle is all I can say...kinda makes me sick...that is wasn't me..hahahahahhahaha kidding...

I never bought into the "barefoot poet" image at all. Hell, I would have never gone to the first concert if that was the case.

I knew about his reputation, which went totally against the squeaky clean, bleached-blonde image the record company was trying to sell. And, that (for me) was part of the appeal.

I went to concerts to look on stage and see the Harley riding, (not BMW) bad-boy at heart playing the guitar like sex-on-legs and sing his style of country music.

I didn't want to marry him, I didn't want to have him over for dinner. I simply wanted him to help me escape the reality of every day life (for those of us who don't fly around on private jets) for 2+ hours and leave the arena saying "Dayam that was good - I want more".

He has become so emasculated there is no way he can sell that image (to me and a LOT of others) anymore.

With the pukefest dedication to his "savior" and ending the show with a downer like "Everybody" I have no desire to waste my time and money.

i don't drink a drop at keith's shows because i want to remember every last detail with clarity. that's how good he was. i don't understand why you would pay big bucks to be there and want to drink, but to each his own! (i'm not much of a drinker anyway)

I got SO lucky. My only KU concert was at a university - so no alcohol was sold. After hearing all the "drunks ruined my concert" stories I was so glad I didn't have to deal with that. I really admire the acts that ban alcohol sales at their concerts.

doublewide said... i don't drink a drop at keith's shows because i want to remember every last detail with clarity. that's how good he was. i don't understand why you would pay big bucks to be there and want to drink, but to each his own!

Because you have to only see the show once to remember the whole thing. The show is so scripted, see it once you'll see the same thing a year later.I'm not a fall down, take my shirt off, spill my beer on the people in front of me drunk. I have maybe 3 beers (and there are people here who can attest to that), but the point is, that the show only needs to be seen once and then basically if you see it again, it's like you rewound the DVR. That's when I drink. Then the Urban virgin at the next show says to her friend, I have to go to the bathroom but I don't want to miss him do {insert song here} then I can safely tell her what songs are coming and she can make the judgement call to go to the bathroom and how long she has til her song comes on. Works out for all parties involved if you ask me.

And for the record, 2 people besides me enjoy Pat Green so far. My point has been served.

kusnob said: "I'd just like to see a show of hands who was here prior to 2004. Now be honest people. Who was a fan PROIR to the barefoot poet era?"

I can honestly say that I was a fan of his music quite a while before that, way back when I would say something about his music & people would say "who???"like I was crazy. Way back before he became hot, back when he was just plain weird looking.

whitetrash said: "Everyone who's followed Keith since the Ranch days knows of his "sexcapades", drug habits and multiple, multiple rehab stints - it's really no big secret and why people put blinders on are just really quite stupid! But you're right, he's very human, made numerous mistakes and has always and still is a work in progress. That goes for his previous and current band members...we've all experienced or heard the stories with Chris McHUGE and Chris (monkeyboy)Rodriguez. What I find surprising is people's attitude about it all. It's no different than a huge amount of rock, country and pop bands and it's continued throughout the years. I'm sure you all remember ELVIS!!"

The reason I've mentioned this subject is because I've seen such long threads since Chris Rodriguez (in particular, but not exclusively) first started playing for KU what " a good christian he is, devoted family man, what a great guy he is" making it sound like he is a saint or something because he had been in Christian music for a while. The message about the womaning, drinking & drugs is for all the holy rollers over at MV that have a very distorted image of the guy as well as SOME other band members past & present. Of course I realize musicians are notorious (& have been for decades) for their sexcapades,drinking & drugs. I work in the music business, I've seen it close up & personal for quite a while. I am the first to admit that Chris Rodriguez is a charismatic, talented man, but he also cheats on his present wife and the last one, as well. Activities that other band members (past & present) also have been involved in. Since we have not been free to ever mention or even hint at such things over at other boards (without it being deleted), I felt like it was high (no pun intended) time it was mentioned. None of that takes away from the fact that they are all extremely talented musicians.

To repeat myself, I don't think there are too many that think KU's last album was neccesarily terrible, it just wasn't up to what we have come to expect from him compared to prior albums. I hope that after some rest & reflection we will see great things from him again.

I at one time, years ago had thought Nicole Kidman was attractive, not beautiful in the normal sense of the word but in that strange can't exactly put your finger on it sort of way... but yet kinda weird looking. As she has gotten older she seems to have gotten uglier & even weirder (is that a word?)looking. The fact that she adopted 2 children more like they were a fashion accessory & only sees them a few times a year which seems to be more for a photo opt than anything else, is repulsive. For her it seems like she is actually lowering herself to have a child. In the process she works out up to 3 hours a day (which is excessive if you're not pg) to stay obscenely emaciated (so she doesn't even look pregnant)is wrong on so many levels. There is nothing wrong with staying in shape while pg but she carries it to the extreme. In the process of all the extreme exercising, botox & various surgeries to make herself look younger, she now looks like an old balding hag (she definately has not aged well). I've not seen one bit of press about her over the last 3-4 years that doesn't make her look like a egomatic, self absorbed, famewhore. She hasn't & continues to not seem supportive of her husband at all, unless there is something in it for her ie publicity or another photo opt for the paps. She just looks like an icy cold stinky fish face. She does not seem to be the loving, supportive type of person KU deserves. He seems to have aged years since being with her.

I would love to be wrong about the bad effect NK has had on KU & his music. Maybe I will be wrong. But like others have said, it is his life, he is an adult, he can make his own decisions.

Maybe after some time off to rest & reflect he will give us some of that old Keith Urban edge in some new music!

I love Keith Urban's music, I know he is just a man with all the flaws, it just makes me sad to see the way he has been since he married the queen. It no longer seems like it is about the music!

if these two are who the "enlightened" seem to think they are (two manipulative famewhores, one deadbeat mom, and one sexcapading, cocaine snorting musician), they absolutely deserve each other. kudos to both of them for keeping the other off the streets and away from the general public.

I've been reading this blog for a very long time and I'm a passport- carrying member of MV. Love both sites. The sarcasm here is hilarious as are the pictures. The warm fuzzy feeling over there is comforting. Hope that Keith, UM, and MV all stay around for a long time (NK can drop off the face of the earth though). ;)

getaholdofyourself said (great name by the way): "if these two are who the "enlightened" seem to think they are (two manipulative famewhores, one deadbeat mom, and one sexcapading, cocaine snorting musician), they absolutely deserve each other. kudos to both of them for keeping the other off the streets and away from the general public."

I have never really considered myself enlightened . I just like to call a spade,a spade (I lost my rose colored specs a while back). As for Ku I was more talking in PRESENT TERMS of a few on the band members not him (where he was concerned I was talking about in the past). About this (certain band members past & present) I am not just guessing! I can't tell you how I know, just that I KNOW. That is all I have to say about that!!

As far "deadbeat mom", that came from enterviews with the woman herself. She said that she rarely gets to see them and they call Katie Holmes Mom. What else do you need to know?

I turned in my passport to MV about 2 1/2 - 3 years ago, tired of as one of the other posters put it "having sunshine blown up my a**" all the time. I like a little truth mixed in with my sunshine! Mind you, I don't think that all the present residents of MV have their blinders on, just too many for my taste.

As far as Keith & his music, I look forward to seeing what happens next!!!!!!!

For the record, I've first saw Keith in the late 90's. Do I see a difference since NK...YES.

NK hasn't influenced Keith? Wow...pre-NK he breathed his music...didn't he say that? He toured constantly, he looked like he was having fun, he was winning awards and his singles were shooting up the charts. Sorry...since NK, that has all dwindled away.

I don't think his career is a bust...but surely it's obvious how much it's declined?

Do I think he should sacrifice the possibility of having a private life for his career? No. But in healthy relationships, you don't have to sacrifice everything for your partner. Why is he having this struggle in this relationship? Why isn't NK making some effort herself?

I don't think NK prohibits him from recording new music or attending industry functions. I think she whines constantly about things and he caters to her every whim. I think she demands alot from him, and manipulates him. Morton said she was one of the most manipulative people he knows. And I suspect Keith would agree ... if he was able to see the forest for the trees.

He talks of balance, but I don't think he's even close to being balanced, in the true sense of the word. He focuses on NK and as a result, he doesn't make new music or change up his tour or do anything for his career that takes much effort at all. He doesn't even rehearse for his shows in person. He did it by PHONE ... he said so in an interview (also by PHONE). Honestly...almost everything he does requires minimal effort, so that he can fly back to his BBP and cater to her, while she works and visits with family and exercises and plans more movie projects.

His GH album is a prime example. He needed to put a couple of new songs on that CD so he could release them as singles and give the fans something new on that album. What did he do? He took the easy way out and recorded a cover of a song he liked off NK's Maggot movie and re-recorded his tribute to NK song. Now...there are no singles to release off his GH album. He has NOTHING on the charts right now and no word of what will be coming out. He told people at a BSE that a new CD would probably be out NEXT year some time. It will be a year or more before there is a new single released at this pace, unless they decide to put something out from LP&TWCT. That's just about done, I would think.

Sorry...NK is a needy, manipulative, controlling, cold woman and Keith is sacrificing his career for her. That's my opinion...but it's actually quite obvious to me.

in answer to kusnob's question, i first noticed keith in the ranch and thought golden road was fantastic, but it wasn't until i saw him in concert for the first time in 2004 that i was completely blown away.

thanks for the insight, zoe. i wasn't sure if you meant present day when it came to keith or not. either way, there are skeptics who believe he hasn't been faithful, but it isn't cheating because their marriage is contractual (some say written and some say verbal). i don't know about you, but i find it deplorable that keith would bring a child into a business arrangement yet these people continue to support him. it's very bunnyesque, imo.

i didn't hear/read the nk interview you're referring to, but if she said those things and they haven't been taken out of context, the skeptics may very well have a point.

i'm a member of mv. for me, it's more about the pre-sales. i know, i know ... i've been vocal about it as have others. unfortunately, we haven't been heard. i still get better tickets at the pre-sale than i would otherwise, which is the only reason keith continues to get my $25. as for the boards, i don't remember the last time i read. it seems the iq and age of those posting have taken a dive since echo took over and i don't have it in me to wade through the all caps, smilies, and exclamation points anymore.

Kidman also hasn't spent Christmas or Easter with Tom's kids since hooking up with Urban. She has also stated in an interview that she visits with the kids via a webcam. Do you honestly think the kids have any maternal feelings towards her? Do you blame them if they don't and put those feelings towards Katie?

I am personally happy that they do have Katie. Say what you want if she is brainwashed or whatever by Tom, but I genuinely believe she is a good person and would treat the kids as they should be treated by a motherly figure. Between the four "parents", I actually have the most faith in Katie.

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