Still makes me mad about Delmas, but we got the win and thats all that matter. Stafford had some of the best accuracy and decision-making in that drive that ive seen from him possibly ever. I think Schwartz owes his team a steak dinner for that one, making his seat cool off a little.

I'd usually say that it's not an impressive win when you need the whole game to win by a point, but my goodness this was fantastic. I don't care who you're playing; when you turn the ball over four times, it is impressive to win. Teams are 1-55 since 2011 when turning it over four times.

Very impressive win and good vibe going into the bye. Next up is a very winnable game against the Cutler-less Bears, who may have a confidence drop if they lose an ugly win in Lambeau.

Go Lions!

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October 27th, 2013, 4:59 pm

njroar

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Re: Gameday: Cowboys vs. Lions

It was an amazing win, but all the talk about saving the season is just laughable. After Dallas, we have GB and Chicago with winning records left on the schedule. Everyone else is sub .500. GB is here and without Cobb and Finley. Chicago is without Cutler, Briggs, and multiple other injuries, and besides the ravens coming to the D, we should be able to win plenty. Even if we lost GB, Chicago and Ravens, you're looking at 10-6. Have you looked around the rest of the NFC this year? 9-7 would probably be a lock for playoffs.

October 27th, 2013, 5:00 pm

Killwill25

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Re: Gameday: Cowboys vs. Lions

49ers wrote:

rofl @ this thread

me too

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October 27th, 2013, 6:03 pm

Growler

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Re: Gameday: Cowboys vs. Lions

njroar wrote:

It was an amazing win, but all the talk about saving the season is just laughable. After Dallas, we have GB and Chicago with winning records left on the schedule. Everyone else is sub .500. GB is here and without Cobb and Finley. Chicago is without Cutler, Briggs, and multiple other injuries, and besides the ravens coming to the D, we should be able to win plenty. Even if we lost GB, Chicago and Ravens, you're looking at 10-6. Have you looked around the rest of the NFC this year? 9-7 would probably be a lock for playoffs.

I'm not yet convinced that any game is a "lock" win for this team. They are capable of playing well and also of stinking it up on any given Sunday.

So, yes, this is a very big win. They really needed it. They could easily go 5-3 or even 4-4 for their last 8 games. Green Bay normally rapes them and should be favored to win the Thanksgiving game. What would happen if Baltimore returned to its Superbowl-winning form desperate for wins? What if the New York Giants (only 2 out of first place in the NFC East) how up to play? What if Pittsburgh has a good game against them? Even a Cutler-less Chicago may still be competitive against them. What if they lay an egg and find a way to lose (ala 4 or 5 turnovers) to Philly, Tampa Bay, or Minnesota?

Also, 9-7 may not be enough to make the playoffs. One of the wild card spots is going to go to the loser of the Seattle-San Francisco division race. It's also possible that Cutler could come back and that Chicago could rally. Carolina might also prove to have a break-out season. 9-7 might be enough to be part of a tiebreaker but not necessarily enough to win that tiebreaker and guarantee a wild card spot.

I can also see them finishing 12-4 as long as CJ stays healthy. Heck, even 13-3 is possible if they can beat both the Fudgies and Ravens.

October 27th, 2013, 6:26 pm

m2karateman

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Re: Gameday: Cowboys vs. Lions

Growler wrote:

I'm not yet convinced that any game is a "lock" win for this team. They are capable of playing well and also of stinking it up on any given Sunday.

Completely agree. This was a pretty Jekyll and Hyde performance from them just today within the same game.

Growler wrote:

So, yes, this is a very big win. They really needed it. They could easily go 5-3 or even 4-4 for their last 8 games. Green Bay normally rapes them and should be favored to win the Thanksgiving game. What would happen if Baltimore returned to its Superbowl-winning form desperate for wins? What if the New York Giants (only 2 out of first place in the NFC East) how up to play? What if Pittsburgh has a good game against them? Even a Cutler-less Chicago may still be competitive against them. What if they lay an egg and find a way to lose (ala 4 or 5 turnovers) to Philly, Tampa Bay, or Minnesota?

Also, 9-7 may not be enough to make the playoffs. One of the wild card spots is going to go to the loser of the Seattle-San Francisco division race. It's also possible that Cutler could come back and that Chicago could rally. Carolina might also prove to have a break-out season. 9-7 might be enough to be part of a tiebreaker but not necessarily enough to win that tiebreaker and guarantee a wild card spot.

I can also see them finishing 12-4 as long as CJ stays healthy. Heck, even 13-3 is possible if they can beat both the Fudgies and Ravens.

I think Lions fans should be very careful about what their outlook is for the remaining games. The Lions did win this game today, but as much as the officiating has worked against the Lions at times in the past, it helped them today. That pass interference call against Dallas towards the end of the game was a really bad call. I don't think it was an intentional trip, and the fact that this same officiating crew picked up a flag earlier in the game that would have gone against the Lions despite it pretty much being the same circumstances....well, the Lions caught a break, IMHO. The Lions outplayed Dallas all day, but due to numerous mental mistakes kept allowing Dallas to stay in the game and take advantage.

Truly, I'm glad the Lions did win. They really were the better team most of the time. But my lord, when are they going to decide to put a complete game together?

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October 27th, 2013, 6:35 pm

thelomasbrowns

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Re: Gameday: Cowboys vs. Lions

Here's a new one: fist pump and headset smash.

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October 27th, 2013, 6:41 pm

thelomasbrowns

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Re: Gameday: Cowboys vs. Lions

Killwill25 wrote:

49ers wrote:

rofl @ this thread

me too

I'll admit I may have overreacted. That being said, in this game (and last week) we were clearly the better team but took it right down to the end. Sure, a lot of that is execution, but good coaches get consistent play out of their guys week in and week out.

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October 27th, 2013, 6:48 pm

Growler

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Re: Gameday: Cowboys vs. Lions

Grink wrote:

2nd that statement...lot of things didn't turn our way, but in the end we found what so many people lament...a way to snatch a win from the jaws of defeat.

I think it was the Lions game to lose since they totally kicked the Cowpokers butts on the stats board, at least in terms of yardage gained and time of possession. It would be more accurate to say that they just barely avoided snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

October 27th, 2013, 6:54 pm

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Re: Gameday: Cowboys vs. Lions

Growler wrote:

njroar wrote:

It was an amazing win, but all the talk about saving the season is just laughable. After Dallas, we have GB and Chicago with winning records left on the schedule. Everyone else is sub .500. GB is here and without Cobb and Finley. Chicago is without Cutler, Briggs, and multiple other injuries, and besides the ravens coming to the D, we should be able to win plenty. Even if we lost GB, Chicago and Ravens, you're looking at 10-6. Have you looked around the rest of the NFC this year? 9-7 would probably be a lock for playoffs.

I'm not yet convinced that any game is a "lock" win for this team. They are capable of playing well and also of stinking it up on any given Sunday.

So, yes, this is a very big win. They really needed it. They could easily go 5-3 or even 4-4 for their last 8 games. Green Bay normally rapes them and should be favored to win the Thanksgiving game. What would happen if Baltimore returned to its Superbowl-winning form desperate for wins? What if the New York Giants (only 2 out of first place in the NFC East) how up to play? What if Pittsburgh has a good game against them? Even a Cutler-less Chicago may still be competitive against them. What if they lay an egg and find a way to lose (ala 4 or 5 turnovers) to Philly, Tampa Bay, or Minnesota?

Also, 9-7 may not be enough to make the playoffs. One of the wild card spots is going to go to the loser of the Seattle-San Francisco division race. It's also possible that Cutler could come back and that Chicago could rally. Carolina might also prove to have a break-out season. 9-7 might be enough to be part of a tiebreaker but not necessarily enough to win that tiebreaker and guarantee a wild card spot.

I can also see them finishing 12-4 as long as CJ stays healthy. Heck, even 13-3 is possible if they can beat both the Fudgies and Ravens.

completely agree with you, any NFL team is going to be tough to beat regardless of the lions talent bc quite frankly the Lions are a very mistake prone team. plus this is also a team that could have a tendency to fold. njroar - imagine the Lions lost this game to the Boyz and go to the bye 4-4. then they have Chicago on the road - thats no gimme, PIT has fallen on there face but as a road game could beat the Lions. GB at Ford Field, there still GB. I could see a home loss to BAL on Monday night - they dont lay down. Heck if PHI can get there offense on track I could see big plays vs the Lions defense. Huge Win today.

October 27th, 2013, 6:56 pm

Growler

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Re: Gameday: Cowboys vs. Lions

thelomasbrowns wrote:

I'll admit I may have overreacted. That being said, in this game (and last week) we were clearly the better team but took it right down to the end. Sure, a lot of that is execution, but good coaches get consistent play out of their guys week in and week out.

I don't blame the coaches for the four turnovers. That's a player performance issue. Schwartz didn't cause the two interceptions or fumble the ball twice. Overall, they outplayed the Cowpokers. They had some defensive breakdowns, but it was our star players' fumbling ineptitude that allowed the game to be close. Erase the four turnovers or let Dallas have two of its own turnovers and this could have been a Lions' route. (WTF Dallas--no turnovers from you guys today?!? No Romo interceptions?)

Can you guys imagine how frustrated the Dallas fanbase must be right now? We had a great comeback against them two years ago (fueled by 3 Romo interceptions) and then they have a defensive breakdown on a day when we handed them 4 turnovers and when they didn't commit one of their own turnovers. How often does a team lose when the other team spots it a 4 turnover differential? Not often!

October 27th, 2013, 7:10 pm

njroar

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Re: Gameday: Cowboys vs. Lions

I know they COULD lose every game, but c'mon. I'm not going to live in the negative all year every year. I'm not wjb. I also don't think they can't do no wrong.

Chicago on the road without Briggs, without Cutler, with a banged up team with us coming off a bye.. we SHOULD win that. GB the same, it's a tough game, but Cobb and Finley are what always kill us and they're both out.

I never called any of the games a lock, but we face two teams with winning records. The tough games that people point too, GB and Baltimore we have at home. We have the advantage for the second half of the season, but it's up to which team shows up.

So trying to spin "we're going to run the table," from my argument against "this was a make or break game of the season" is ridiculous.

October 27th, 2013, 7:26 pm

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Re: Gameday: Cowboys vs. Lions

njroar wrote:

I know they COULD lose every game, but c'mon. I'm not going to live in the negative all year every year. I'm not wjb. I also don't think they can't do no wrong.

Chicago on the road without Briggs, without Cutler, with a banged up team with us coming off a bye.. we SHOULD win that. GB the same, it's a tough game, but Cobb and Finley are what always kill us and they're both out.

I never called any of the games a lock, but we face two teams with winning records. The tough games that people point too, GB and Baltimore we have at home. We have the advantage for the second half of the season, but it's up to which team shows up.

So trying to spin "we're going to run the table," from my argument against "this was a make or break game of the season" is ridiculous.

the point is I could see them lose to CHI and PIT on the road and if they lost this one they re sitting at 4-6. last season the lions started 4-4 and lost 8 in a row to end the season and if they start a slide the attention would shift from Will they make the Playoffs to Will they clean house? this team could easily break under that pressure so IMO the more they push that kind of talk away the better i feel about em winning later in the season. this could be a turning point type game where instead of limping throught the 2nd half picking off the deadbeat teams trying to beat out Carolina for the 2nd wildcard they show up with some fire to try to actually take the division and get a home playoff game.

October 27th, 2013, 7:40 pm

Growler

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Re: Gameday: Cowboys vs. Lions

If they can run the table and finish 13-3, they should get a first round bye and home playoff game...but that assumes that both New Orleans and Seattle don't finish better than 13-3.

I'd better put down that yellow Kool-Aid. I left my apartment at the 2 Minute Warning to go to work. Then I came back to work and saw the tie score 30-30 on ESPN with 12 seconds left, knowing they had to have scored a TD, and was ecstatic.

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