#1169 - Elon Musk

Sep 7, 2018

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my guest today is one of the most requested yes of all time with good reason he's one of the most important and it's just unusual figures in human history I think the guy's a fucking wizard give it up for Elon Musk

thank you thanks doing this man really appreciate it very good to meet you in the middle of doing all the things you do create cars Rockets all the stuff you're doing constantly innovating decide to make flamethrower or have time for that

well if they might win a lot of time it's the flamethrower thing and it's sort of a the boring company started out as a joke and we decide to make it real and and think a tunnel through LA and then if you want other people ask us to dig tunnels so we said yes in a few cases section that only has one piece of merchandise at a time

does anybody tell you know for yourself but selling a flamethrower the liabilities all the people you're selling this device hinged people going to be buying a flamethrower in the first place to really want to connect ourselves all these potential arsonists

that's terrible idea to buy one I said don't buy this plane to her don't buy it don't buy it that's what I said still people bought it but if I can do to stop them build it I will come I said don't buy it it's dangerous it's wrong but still do it but it's like it's going to stop them how many do you make 20000

how do you have the type of how do you have the time to do that though I mean I understand it's not a big deal in terms of all the other things you do but how do you have time to do anything I just I don't understand your time management skills

it's not a real flamethrower which is why it says not a flamethrower that's why we were very clear this is not actually a plant or an end and it was already told that various countries would would ban shipping of it but they would not they would ban flamethrowers so we write to solve the problem for the Customs agencies week labeled it not a flamethrower

The Works effective I don't know I think so yeah so far yes but you do what you do so many different things like how do you do all that other shit how do you how do you how does one decide to fix LA traffic by drilling holes in the ground and who do you even approach with that like when you have this idea who do you talk to about that but I don't think it's going to be successful. You know I know it's like it's going to be successful but so far

16 years and the traffic is always been terrible and so I don't see any other ideas for improving the traffic so in desperation we're going to take a tunnel and maybe that'll be successful and maybe it won't

I'm I'm listening I'm not trying to convince you it's going to work and are the people that you were starting this though this is actually a project you're starting to implement about a mile what it what is the ultimate plan to have these in major city is an anywhere this mask congestion and just tried out in La first yeah it's it's it's in LA because I mostly live in LA that's the reason is a terrible place to dig tunnels this is one of the worst places to eat, because the most because of the paperwork I think it's like what about seismic it's like actually both tunnels are very safe and earthquakes earthquakes up

what is 1 * Century of surface phenomenon it's like like waves on the ocean so if there's a storm you want to be on the in a submarine submarine house constructed constructed out of these interlocking segments kind of like a snake Slither like a snake exoskeleton with double seals and so even when the ground moves the it's able to the tunnel actually was able to shift along with the ground like like an underground snake and it doesn't crack or break or at work and it's extremely unlikely that both seals would be broken and it's it's it's a capable of taking 5 atmospheres of pressure

yeah it was put in our parking lot and but do you have to give them some server blueprint for your ultimate idea and do they have to approve it like how does that work that way to start off with a pit okay and let you know

we're not going to 3 Days To 3 days 14 hours from like that cuz I was like a Student Competition we have for you to make the fastest pot in the hyperloop and this was get the finals going to be on Sunday afternoon and so they're coming by on Sunday afternoons like you know and then like show Eric and I saw we was like Friday morning

but hey it's a hole in the ground is better than no hole in the ground and what do you tell me what this mean you just said this is good idea yes we're going to help funnel traffic better and they're going and they just go okay

that we weave joke around about this in the podcast for the like what are the person can go to the people that run the city and go dig some holes in the ground put some titles in there and they got it on the ground but it's not all the time but my question is like I know how much time you must be spending on your Tesla Factory I know how much time you must be spending on SpaceX you still have time to dig holes out of the ground in LA and come up with these ideas and then Implement I'm sure you did

they think like I'm a business guy or something like that if my Wikipedia page says business magnate would you call yourself a business magnet Wikipedia page 2 Magnus build the right now probably already changed engineering and Manufacturing in that kind of thing looks like 80% or more of my time ideas and then implementation of those ideas that's like hardcore engineering designing things going to

cuz I'm an alien that's what I've speculated on record saying this in the past I wonder if there was one was like maybe an intelligent being that we created in AI creature that's a superior to people maybe just hang around with us for a little while like you've been doing and then 6 months shit and that's the way

I will not be able to hold a candle to AI you scared the shit out of me when you talk about is between you and Sam Harris consider until at a podcast with Sam wants my pants talking about a I I I realize I call will this is a genie that wants out of the bottle you never getting it back in that's true

and no one's really paying attention too much of them people like you or people that are really obsessed with technology all these things are happening and he's robots her could you see the one where Peter put out statement you shouldn't kick robots probably not wise for Retribution their memories very good I bet it's really good it's really good I bet it is getting better every day really are you honestly legitimately concerned about this is like a I one of your main worries in regards to the Future

that'll be the danger how far do you think we are from something that can make its own mind up whether or not something is ethically and morally correct or they're not it wants to do something over there wants to improve itself and whether or not he wants to protect itself from people or from other AI how far away we something from something is really truly sentient

1 things that I've been thinking about a lot over the last few years is that one of the things that drives a lot of people crazy as how how many people are obsessed with materialism and getting the latest greatest thing and I wonder how much of that is a lot of it is most certainly fueling technology and Innovation it almost seems like it's built into us like what we like and what we want that were fueling this thing that's constantly around us all the time and it doesn't seem possible that people going to pump the brakes it doesn't seem possible at this stage we were consoling expected newest cell phone latest Tesla update the newest MacBook Pro everything has to be newer and better

it seems like it's built into US almost seems like it's an instinct that we were working towards that they would like it our job just like the ants build the anthill our job is just coming out of the fuel this

where is like one of the reasons why I probably Instagram is more enticing than Twitter limbic resonance more images more video system or yes he worried about war Wonder in fact about what the next step is

yes things are getting more connected there at this point constrained by mad with our input output is slow but typically output Africa Taurus with thumbs and we just have a photo 1010 thing is now if thumbs

images artist also are there a way of communicating at high-bandwidth take pictures and you send pictures people what sends that's that communicates fall more information than you can communicate so what happened with you or you decided or you took on a more fit elastic attitude like what was there any specific thing or was it just the inevitability of our future

the see nobody was seen in a movie with a robot give me out nobody listened it seems like an issue that's brought up more often over the last few years that it was maybe 5-10 years ago it seems like science fiction

they will be investigation years will pass there will be some sort of insight committee they will be rulemaking then they will be over so I might actually regulations this whole takes many years this is the normal course of things if you look at saved Automotive regulations how long did it take for seatbelts to be to reap implemented to be required

and then we'll be just ridiculous ridiculous we will be like this ridiculous biological shiting pissing thing trying to stop the gods no stop we like we like living with a finite lifespan and and watching in Norman Rockwell paintings

it could be terrible and it could be great it's not clear but one thing is for sure we will not control it you think that it's likely that we will merge somehow or another with this sort of technology and it'll augment what we are now or do you think it will replace us

pipe any better than probably anyone thinks is possible how much can talk about that right now I don't jump the gun on that but what's like the ultimate what's what's the idea behind like what are you trying to accomplish with it what would you like best case scenario

however got the limbic system me a primitive brain essentially got the cortex to your car and it's about a relationship with your cortex and Lenox is tomorrow in Temecula show me people like their cortex and they like the limbic system I have met anyone who wants to delete their limbic system or delete their cortex already seems like both

happy thinking part of themselves isn't charged but it's mostly their limbic system that's in charge and the cortex is trying to make the limbic system happy that's what most of that computer power is orange towards how can I make the living system happy

Black Betty lyrics of people with enhanced cognitive ability how much different than people today if you had to explain it to a person who didn't really not understand what you're saying how much different you talking about when you say radical and prove it what do you mean

you know you can answer any question to an Xterra can answer any question we watch instantly and calculation that your phone's memory is essentially perfect how you can remember fall asleep before your phone can remember videos

pictures everything perfectly that's your phone is already an extension of you you're already a cyborg you don't even what must roll their eyes they are already a cyborg if the phone is an extension of yourself it's just that the the data rate rate at which communication between you and the cybernetic extension of yourself that is your phone and computer is slow it's very slow

I think I'll probably choose hurt and about it biological self versus some sort of Ray Kurzweil scenario where they download themselves into a computer it will be essentially snapshot it into the computer anytime if your biological cell size are just probably upload into a new unit

the words came from who brought this to us Old Camp it was thanks again for going back to you when you decided to have this fatalistic Viewpoint so you weren't you tried to warn people you talked about this pretty extensively I read several interviews we talked about this and then you just sorta just said okay just is let's just end you in wait you're by communicating the potential for me for sure you're getting the warning out to some people

cuz when when people hear about something like a guy but it's almost abstract it's almost it's almost like it's so it's so hard to wrap your head around it by the time already happens it'll be too late

and and that would be probably a safer way to go about things it seems I mean I know that it's probably something that the government supposed to handle but it seems like I wouldn't want to I don't want the government to handle this who do you want to I feel like you're the one who could ring the bell better cuz if Mike Pence are talk about a Emily shut up bitch come on man hasn't always talk about other companies we have agreements where you're not supposed to dump toxic waste into the ocean you're not supposed to do certain things that could be terribly

damaging even though there be profitable maybe this is one of those things maybe you should realize that you can't hit the switch on something that's going to be able to think for itself and make up its own mind as to whether or not it wants to survive or not and whether or not he thinks you're a threat

weather I think you're useless like why do I keep this dumb finite life-form alive why why keep this thing around it's just stupid it just keeps polluting everything shiting everywhere Coast lighting everything on fire and shooting each other want to keep this stupid thing a lot cuz sometimes it makes good music that I don't sometimes it makes great movies sometimes it makes beautiful art and sometimes it you know sometimes it's cool to hang out with Mike for us those are great reasons standing outside like this is definitely a flawed system is like if you went to the Jungle you watch his Champs engage in Warfare impeach of the Way Up remix the fucking real name in like a documentary I like damn he's Trump's are mean they're mean yeah they're cool they're calculated yeah yeah they sneak up on each other and

but that mean kind of game over this is dark right but we know better because we've Advanced but if we hadn't we be like man I don't want to fucking live in the house I like the champ why is bro boys go this is it man chip life tell me what kind of life but we in a way to the a I might be like those chimps unlike these stupid Fox launch missiles out of drones and shooting each other underwater like we're crazy we got Torpedoes submarines and fucking airplane that dropped nuclear bombs in discriminately on cities are assholes

yeah they might go why are they doing this it might like look it up politics look at what we do in terms of our food system what kind of food we forced on each other's throats and they look out for themselves

right now yeah, I saw that David Attenborough documentary on Channel 4 they were eating those colobus monkeys and ripping them apart this is why people are so crazy we came from that thing yeah exactly right now or seem to be way more even than us way more civilized that's okay Mom I'll bring your son's there good women

I haven't seen one of us at is Eli's probably like I don't think I'm being out of the PGA section I don't think they have them at many zooz we looked at before but I was just always jacking off and what's that they have in San Diego

yeah I know how many other in a cage you know whether or not we are ultimate goal is to give birth to some new thing and that's why we're so obsessed with technology is not like this technology is really I mean it's certainly enhancing our lives in a certain way but it is ultimately isn't making people happier right now most technology would say No in fact you and I were talking about social media before this about just not having Instagram on your phone and not do you feel better yes I think one of the issues with social media has been pointed out by many people is that

I think maybe particularly Instagram people look like they have a much better life then they really do posting pictures of when they're really happy there are modifying those pictures to better looking for not modifying pictures or at least selecting the pictures for the best lighting the best angle so people basically seen their way better looking than they really are and their way happier saving then they really are so if you look at everyone on Instagram you might think man they're always happy beautiful people and

it's not even something you should want what do you want to look great all the time so it's quite sad person could you search people generally could think of those cells relative to two others it's it's a wheel constantly r e

and you can see the say if you watch them sure like Naked and Afraid or interesting going to try living in the Woods by yourself for a while and you're like the one I suppose a she was quite great as what's lot of people want to come back to the station pretty fast on Naked and Afraid the real quote the comparison is the thief of joy

yeah well happiness is reality minutes expectations that's great too but the comparison is the thief of Joy really holds true to peep is it in when you think about Instagram cuz would essentially Instagram is with a lot of people as you're giving them the opportunity to be their own PR agent and they always go towards the glamorous and when and if anybody does show that you know hashtag no filter know you're so brave lucky you don't make up

damn you look good anyway you look great we doing oh my God you have makeup on I still look hot as fuck you know you're doing I know what you're doing to their there they're letting you know and then they feeding off that comment section who

sitting there like look at a fresh stream of love like you getting right up to the sources it comes out of the earth and you suck and that's a lot of lot of a mole of water emojis my concern is not so much what Instagram is is that I didn't think the people had the need for this or the expectation for some sort of technology that allows them to constantly get love and adulation from strangers and comments and Industry ability to project this sort of distorted version of who you really are but I worry about where it goes like what's the next one what's the next one and where is it is it going to be augmented some sort of a weird augmented or virtual sort of Instagram type situation where you're not going to want to live in this real world you going to want to interface with this sort of world that you've created through your social media page some next-level thing

yeah you're living the simulation simulation kind of freaks me out my kids fucking love it man they love it they love playing these weirdo games and end in walk around that headset on but part of me watching them do it goes wow I wonder if this is like the precursor to sort of like if you look at that that phone did Gordon Gekko had on the beach and you compare cell phone Galaxy Note 9 and I wonder when I see this HTC Vive my what is that thing going to be 10 years from now when we're making fun of what it is now what is it how I mean how ingrained and how how how connected an interconnected is this technology going to be in our life

although we almost like we in a simulation or we're on our way to one right because we exist we could most certainly be on the road we could be on the road to that right doesn't mean it has to a pretty face reality it could be reality we could be here now on our way to the road or on our way to the destination where this can never happen again where we are completely ingrained in some sort of an artificial technology or some sort of a symbiotic relationship with the Internet or the next level of sharing information but right now we're not there yet that's possible to write it's possible that a simulation is one day going to be inevitable they were going to have something that's indistinguishable from regular reality but maybe we're not there yet that's also possible

quite there yet that this is real I test out some shit like crap restaurants and they want Rob would ever want to see everyone at Sea metal people if they seem like people are like a longing towards some weird Log Cabin type measure algae ality clinging to track of the nails for the month yes I will go get a mason jar with the Weinstein door handle

got Stark makes me lose faith in humanity handle they have those advantage of our our generous nature made with Weinstein I made with a handle they made it that way but that would be fine if there was a glued it on or something

it is what it is for all I mean enjoy the journey right if you really want to get morose mean it is what it is for all of us anyway we were all going to go unless some something changes and you know even if we just sort of existed as humans forever would be

would still eventually that be like the heat death of the universe or no right to pass the sun the sun running out of juice eventually it's going to end it's just Assumption of when right is it really it's all about the journey or Transcendence from whatever we are now into something it doesn't worry about that

are you a proponent of the multi universes Theory do you believe that there are many many universes and that even if this one Fades out that there's other ones that are starting fresh right now and there's an infinite number of them and they're just constantly and just never ending cycle of birth and death

get that is if this right now is a simulation yet and ultimately inevitably if as long as we don't die or get hit by a meteor we're going to create some sort of simulation to continue on the same technological password for on right now but we might not be there yet so might not be a simulation here

where are you really you aren't anywhere in the computer what defines where you are exactly right it's your perception is it breaks your perceptions or is it you know a scale that we have on your butt right here I measured you in the same weight as you were when you left

are you mean while your experience why do you think there where you are right now you might not be I'll spark up join if you keep talking to your man just going to come in here we might have to lock the door right now you think you're in a studio in La you might be in a computer I think about this all the time

yeah I mean it's unquestionable that one day that'll be the case as long as we keep going as long as nothing interrupts us and if we start from scratch and you know where single-celled organisms all over again and then millions and millions of years later we become the next thing that is us with creativity and ability to change its environment it's going to keep monkey in with things until he figures out a way to change reality to change I mean almost like punch a hole through what is this thing into what what it wants it to be and create new things and those new things will intersect with other people to do things and then we'll be this ultimate pathway of infinite ideas and expression all through technology

yes right and then reevaluate those actions to make sure they're there it's true I think there's a movement to that I mean in terms of like a social movement I think some of its misguided and some of its exaggerated in his lot a lot of people that are fighting for their side out there but it seems like the general trend of like social awareness seems to be much more height and now there's ever been in any other time in history because of our ability to express ourselves instantaneously to each other through Facebook or Twitter or what have you and that the trend is to abandon preconceived notions abandoned Prejudice abandoned discrimination and promote kindness and happiness as much as possible because it's nice when he gave it to me sorry with him and it just stayed here I have a real samurai sword fun to play with that I know you're into weapons

yeah that's a legit samurai sword from an actual samurai from the 1500s if you pull out that blade that blade was made the old way where Master Craftsman folded that metal and hammered it down over and over again over a long period of time and home. Blade into what it is now what's crazy is that more than 500 years later that thing still pristine

meet whoever took care of that pass it down to the next person who took care of it and took out to the podcast room it's pretty fucking crazy one day someone going to be looking at ass like that he's fucking back doors they pop up sideways like a Lamborghini

what about you that's what's weird like when you showed up here you were all smiles and you pull out a fucking blowtorch and not a blowtorch but I'm like looking lost her having fun like this is like this thing when you know what you program a car to do a ballet dance you're having fun though the earth center Rockets into space and and empowering people in Australia I kind of fucked you have time to make the car dance ballet

now it won't do that what if it's in bumper-to-bumper traffic no no won't do it actually have to drag people have the car lots of things that gets a hold of it everyone's don't know. It's everyone to eat if you search for the Steven search for how well they do now

do you want to do a video that how do you like the fact that some people don't know no I think it's probably not we should tell people yeah probably would help your product it's not like you don't sell enough you sell almost too many of them right

yeah do you have a video games yeah well you won't be able to drive while you're playing the video game but we were just putting the Atari emulator ROM emulator in it and a bunch of other things. Max was too hard with the old trackball so this is does a touchscreen version of Missile Command so you have a chance do you have an old car don't you don't you have like an old Jaguar

are there certain iconic shapes and that there's there's something about those cars to they're not as capable not nearly as capable as like a Tesla but there's something really satisfying about the mechanical aspect of like feeling the steering and they're grinding of the gears in the shifting

something about those it's extremely satisfying even though they're not that confident like I have a 1993 Porsche 964 it's like a lightweight snot is the RS America's not very fast it's not like in comparison to a Tessler and said that but the thing about it is like it's mechanical feeler everything that it gives you this weird thrill like you're on this klinke ride and it's all this feedback and something to that

so you like that but you also like Electronics yes it's like the end of electronics driving itself better every day it's like we're back to release the software that will enable you to just turn it on and it'll drive from Highway on-ramp to highway exit do Lane changes over take other cars to go from one interchange the next if you get on say the 405 and get off get off 300 miles later and go through several Highway interchanges and just take over take out the car is in hookah to the nav system

what did you think when you saw that video that dude falling asleep behind the wheel and I'm sure you've seen it the one in San Francisco is like right outside of San Jose to do doubt call like that in the car is in bumper-to-bumper traffic movie too long have you seen it right software if you don't touch the wheel it it will gradually slow down I put the emergency lights on and wake you up that's hilarious yeah that's hilarious you choose what voice wakes you up

what's her more of a little punks like wake up fuck face danger something with a Southern accent hey why can't I get a sweetie, Siri when you program something like that in is this in response to a concern or is it your own do you look at it and go ahead and just be able to fall asleep

yeah yeah we it's like you know what book you know people are about to do something about that right but when you first released it you didn't consider it right you just like well no one's going to just sleep people fall asleep on the cars all the time crash crash crash car the good time for sure somebody out there was a guy was in an early Tesla

so how did you have permanent like did you just use cameras and programmed with the the system so that if it sees images it slows down and how much time do you give as the person who's in control of it allowed to program how fast it goes yes that you can program it to be more or less and more conservative look more aggressive driver and you can say what speed you wanted to watch what speed is okay

well images for four lane changes is tricky because if you're in like la like a nice you're pretty aggressive rights Prius hard to change lanes when it's hard it's hard to be Namaste out here in LA or pushy yeah specially freeway speed up sometimes even in LA but sometimes they're not help that probably locked in together is hive mind

I don't know how but we're not traffic that'll help a lot how many of those can you put in there so tell you said hell but you can go you can have a hundred levels of tunnel going to be on 9999 -99 floors who this is one of the fundamental things people don't appreciate about tunnels is that does not like roads to find another issue with roses that you have a 2d transport system and a 3D living in workspace environment so you got to lose tall buildings or will concentrator work environments and and then then you want to go into this like to t transport some cars upper spaced out pretty far

and enter the obviously is not going to work are you going to have traffic guaranteed but if you can go 3D on your transport system then you can solve all traffic you can either go 3D up for the flying car on go 3D down with tunnels you can have as many tunnel levels as you want you can rabbit rarely relieve any amount of traffic you can go further down with tunnels and you can go up with buildings your 10,000 feet down if you want

I would recommend it but what was that movie with what's-his-face Bradley Cooper not Bradley Cooper Christian now what the fuck is named Batman who is Batman Christian Bale where they fight dragons him and Matthew McConaughey

you would like to think that I cuz you're a Super Genius haha but I as a normal normal person I know the people weighed down more than me and they really really believe they watch YouTube videos which go on uninterrupted and spew out a bunch of fucking fake facts very eloquently and articulately

for real what are going to burn ultra high pressure compressed air okay well pump it up like 10,000 PSI and how fast I can fly you make it Fly sure do you anticipate that as being at me you were talking about the tunnels and then flying cars do you really think that's going to be real too noisy air flow so if they finally she was flying cars

get one of those like toy drones think of how much how loud those are and how much are they how much are they blow now imagine if that's like a thousand times heavier is not going to be make your neighbors happy

if you want to find car just put some wheels on a helicopter is there a way around that like what if they figure out some sort of magnetic technology like all those Bob Lazar type characters were thinking it was a part of the UFO technology they were doing an Area 51 member than they have some some thoughts about magnetics no no bulshit with the air so you must

and if Emily is greater than mg you will go up there just no way around that there is definitely no way around it there's no way to create some sort of a magnetic something or another that allows you to

in a really naughty Situation off of Earth's gravitational field and somehow make that incredibly light but that magnet would cause so much destruction would be better off with the helicopter so if there was some sort of magnet Road like you have two magnets repel each other get some sort of a magnet row that was below you and you could travel on that magnet road that would work

hahaha yes yes your kind of magnet Road a magnet world is that too ridiculous it's a lot of things I don't recommend I think I think I was good I would cause a lot of trouble time consideration into this other than you know instead of like my foolish Lee render thoughts so you think the tunnels the way to do it so it'll work for sure that'll work yes and

try the air in the tunnel tunnel then and then depending how fast when I go to these wheels or you could use are bearings depending upon the ambient pressure in the tunnel or you could make love it if you want to go super fast so magnet Road

yes but underground magnet roads underground maggot realize you're going to really create a lot of trouble with cuz those metal things on the ground you would be an A or B maglev in a vacuum tunnel in a vacuum tunnel levitation

songs the air pump is working at a decent speed that back up pumps or something and then there's like it doesn't it exhausts through the outflow valve and and through whatever seals are not feeling quite right usually the door doesn't feel quite right on a plane so he's a bit of leakage around the door and the pumps exceed the outflow rate and then that sets the pressure in the in the cabin Texas I still have time for a plane you do a better design I mean

Thinking about an electric plane is that you want to go as high as possible but you need a sudden energy testing the battery pack because you have to overcome gravitational potential energy wants you to come grab laundry and dryer at a high altitude the energy used in cruise is very low and then you can recapture a large part of your forgot patient 10:20 on the way down so you really don't need any kind of Reserve fuel if you want because you have the energy of height grab his potential energy this is a lot of energy so

yeah the force of gravity if a lift force with the wings then you got the force of the one of the thrusting device for the propeller or turbine whatever it is I'm glad you got the resistance force of the air have a higher you go the lower the air resistance is air density drops exponentially but increases with the square and exponential Pizza Square the higher you go the faster you will go for the same amount of energy

I don't know I don't know how you do what you do now but if you keep coming up with these it but it's got to be hard to pawn these off on someone else either and Cake go do a job good job with this vertical take-off and Landing system they want to implement to regular planes

eschatological we must have sister a sustainable energy transport and energy infrastructure in a long time so we know that's the endpoint we know that so why run this crazy experiments or we take coins of tons of carbon from underground and put it in the atmosphere and oceans this is insane experiment just the dumbest experiment in human history

do you think this is a product of momentum that we start off doing this when it was just a few engines a few hundred million gallons of fuel over the whole world not that big of a deal and then slowly but surely over Century it got out of control and now it it's not just our fuel but it's also fossil fuels are involved in so many different Electronics so many different items that people buy it just as constant desire for fossil fuels constant need for oil

yeah we're really just went with the more common would take out of the ground and that's the atmosphere and a lot of it gets committed to the oceans the more dangerous it is like I said I don't think right now I think we're okay right now we can probably even add some more but the momentum towards sustainable energy is too slow like a

so Pat and ended the new car truck production if it was a hundred percent electric that's only about a hundred million per year so it would take if you could snap your fingers and it's instantly turn all

make sense because how long does a truck car truck last before it goes into the junkyard and gets crushed about 20 to 25 years is there a way to accelerate the process like some sort of subsidies some encouragement from the government financially

make it better than gasoline or diesel cars make it more efficient in terms of like the distance you can travel yeah I got to be able to go far far enough recharge fast you're anticipating 600 miles is that correct

330 mile range model S car pack will be about 10:30 Monday 3:35 but some people have hyper mild it to 500 Miles hyper mild it was on level ground with a pump the tires up really well I'm going to smooth surface and and you can go for a long time but definitely we do 300 miles is there any fine for most people usually 200 or 250 miles is fine thread solar powered one day especially in Los Angeles I mean what you said about that giant nuclear reactor a million times bigger than Earth is floating in the sky is it possible that one day you'll be able to use power all these cars

without making a car like really blocky we're having some like a G-Wagen yeah I like it a lot of stuff there were like maybe like solar panels fold out or something like to eat class that's what we needed that you type yeah that the Jaguar E-Type with a giant long hood that could be a giant solar panel what the hell I did want to have this like unfolding solar panel thing they press a button and we just like unfolding solar panels and like charge recharge your car in the parking lot

yeah we could do that but I think it's probably better to just put that on your roof right and then it's going to be facing the sun all the time cuz I did the Fisker have that on the roof the Fisker Karma new generation for I said believe it was only for the the radio is that correct recharge like 2 miles a day or so would you laugh when they started blowing up when they get hit with water

remember what happened they got there they had a dealership Fisker karmas were parked beside like that with a flood in Jersey hurricane came in they got overwhelmed with water and they also do exploding this fucking great video of it did you watch the video and watch the video but I miss you being naked

watch that video laugh my ass off they all blow up they got wet and they blew up that's not good waterproof so that doesn't happen smart Kazakhstan map that he he just voted through a tunnel under underwater tunnel that could flooded tunnel I just

turn the wheels to steer and press the accelerator and I just let her through the tunnel and he smoked around the other cars that's amazing on the internet what happens if your car gets a little sideways like if you're driving in snow like what if you're driving if you're autopilot is on and you're in like Denver and it snows out a car gets a little sideways does it correct itself. It's got great car traction control correct you know I like oh yeah oh yeah pretty crazy that's pretty crazy yeah so like if you're going sideways and knows how to correct itself

that alone traction control system is very good it makes me feel like Superman right you like feel like you're going to make you feel like this incredible driver I believe it in Sweden Norway and Canada and few other places they do a lot of their they do some of their driver training school on these Frozen surfaces so you're just the cars going sideways with you like it or not and you have to learn how to slide into corners and how do we do asked

electric cars have really great traction control because the reaction time so fast right so you've got a lot of latency takes awhile for the the engine to reactant for before electric motors incredibly precise that's why you're the only you wouldn't have a gasoline engine printer that we pretty weird or or like a surgical device it's going to be an electric motor on the surgical device on the printer

gasoline engines going to be just driving away it's going to be going to have the reaction time but to an electric motor is operating at the most second level so it can turn on track on and off traction within like inches of getting on the on electricity drive a patch of ice it'll turn traction off and then turn it on a couple inches right after the ice

then it's a recycle say one Mississippi it it just thought about the things a thousand times so it's realize that your wheels are not getting traction it understands are some slippery surface that you driving on and it makes Jocelyn's in real time are you want them to be driving your car yes I'm bored art have the lowest probability of injury of any cars ever tested by the US government

yeah but it's pretty fun is pretty crazy like you know people still see us like we all have like some accident at 60 miles an hour where they like Twisted an ankle and they slip they seem like they're buried at another car they still see us but that's to be expected expected do you take that into account with like the same sort of fatalistic

you got to just to let it go this is what people do tell you I've got hurt it is quite a lot of respect for the justice system judges are very smart and they see that I like I have so far I found judge just to be very good at Justice because I like like like watch and jewelry is a good to like they're actually quite good to know people

are you worried about like occasional errors in the justice system I tell you most of the time they're very good and I fell asleep in the car and he wrote over cyclist and you know what was what encouraged me to get water pilot out as soon as possible like I see what is getting sued you for falling asleep yes he believe I'm not going to blame it on the new car smell

yes he got a lawyer and he screwed us and the judge was like this is crazy stop bothering me know thank God yes thank God thank God there was a brain plate that is a judge is very good some of them what about that a lot of the river in Pennsylvania who is selling those kids out know about that story was selling young boys to prison he was like literally yeah I literally under bribes for he was elected judge or a politician this is a very famous story he's in jail right now I think for the rest of his life and he put away he he would take a young boy would do something like steal something from the store and he would put them in detention for you know 5 years something we're ridiculous egregious and they investigated this history and they found out that he was literally being paid off

someone it was proven to point with her in jail now that song was paying them to put more asses in the seats in these private prisons a payment to put them in the youth center's Builder a million-dollar payment that charges in prison yes but people who think perhaps the justice system consists entirely of Judges like that I want to see how are you this is not the case the vast majority of charges of very good they care about Justice and they could have made a lot more money if they wanted to get trailer and instead they cared about Justice and they made less money because they care about Justice and that's why I feel that same way about police officers I feel like there's so many interactions with so many different people with police officers that the very few that stand out that are horrific we we tend to look at that

this is evidence that police are all crop in that I think that's crazy no most most police are are a very honest person now that I know a very honorable ethical people have to go up to the average person that's why I freshen have to go and obviously if somebody is is given a trusted place in society such as being a police officer or a judge and they all corrupted then we must be extra vigilant that game such situations I take action but we should not think that this is somehow broadly descriptive of people in that profession I couldn't agree more I think there's also an issue with one of the things that happens with police officers prosecutors in anyone is trying to convince someone or arrest someone is that it becomes a game and then games people want to win sometimes people cheat

yes I mean you know if your prosecutor shoot you should not always want to win. At times when you should like them okay I should not going to win this case and then pass on my case sometimes people want to win too much that is true

you're having a good view of the world because you're you're just interacting a lot of criminals but actually most of society is not consist of criminals and had to have this conversation at dinner so we just go with Tony I was like man what sometimes seem pretty very dark because you know there's some things out there and he was like dealing with some case which consisted of a couple of old ladies that would

but I buy sentricon this will serve 30 people or incredible angels and unbelievably good human beings yeah we tend to I thought Cindy gravitate towards the worst case scenario yes and we want to frame that end of this one of the real problems with prejudice they we want and whether is prejudiced towards different minorities or prejudiced towards police officers or anything so if we want to look at the worst case scenario and say this is an example of what this is all about and you see that even with people how they frame genders some some men find women like that they get ripped off by a few women and they said all women are evil some women get fucked over by a few Min all mentorship and in this this is very toxic and it's it's also it's a very unbalanced way of viewing the world and it's very emotionally based and it's based on your own experience your own anecdotal experience and it can it can be very

nobody's perfect they have to be if you think I'm a vast numbers of us there just interacting with each other with each other constantly we have to be better than we think we are his weapons like that how many times like nobody's been really try to motivate you and your buddy yet yeah I'm always look mad if I say something that fucked up it's right there at 11 things up for sure

you're in Texas kind of true I mean tell me what's going to happen on a good mood piss people off and everybody can have a gun or off just let that guy get in your lane test site in Central Texas near Waco beautiful SpaceX in McGregor Bay cool yeah there you know we have like lots of fire loud explosions and things and people that work sweet you know your kids go to school yeah it's you know it's dangerous

yeah but if it's free there's something about it's very enticing because of that it is dangerous but it's also free right yeah yeah I prefer over places that are more restrictive but more liberal because you could always be liberal and like just because things are free and just because you have a certain amount of you know right wing type characters it doesn't mean you have to be that way you know and honestly there's a lot of those people that are pretty fucking open-minded and let you do whatever you want to do or I don't bother them

yeah exactly that's my hope right now with the way we're able to communicate with each other today and how radically different is been Generations past is that we all just the dust settles we all realize I like you you like what you were saying that most people are good the vast majority what mushrooms

what do you see in terms of like bottlenecks of things that are that are holding back Innovation is it regulatory commissions and and people that don't understand the technology that are influencing policy what what what could potentially be holding you guys back right now

yeah the mayor of Beijing ass I believe in environmental engineering degree and the deputy mayor is a Physics degree and met them and the parasite Shanghai is really smart and you're up on technology what do you think about this government policy of of stopping use of Huawei phones and there's there's something about that the the worry about spying I mean from what I understand from Realtek people they think it's horseshit

is that are you up and around now so we just spend the top secret stuff then you want to be pretty careful about what Hardware you use but you know like most people do not have top-secret stuff and like nobody really cares upon you watch it's like nobody really cares you know so that's kind of on them like you just like National spy agencies do not give a rat's ass what I do not care so much Secrets National spy agency have to learn from the average citizen pipe nothing against the narrative in the argument by Logitech people is that the real concern is that these companies like Huawei are innovating at erratic pace and they trying to stop them from integrated into our culture and

riding this bike right now they're the number to cell phone manufacturer in the world OK Samsung's number one away is number to Apples now number 3 they surpassed Apple's number to and the ideas of this is all had taken place without them having any foothold whatsoever in America there are no there's no carriers that have their phones you have to buy their phones unlocked through some sort of a third party and then put the worry is you know that these are some heart of the controlled by the Chinese government that common is Chinese government is going to distribute these phones and I don't know if it's that the worries economic influence that they'll have too much power I don't know what it is that you you pay attention on it any of this you know maybe

a time will you think that there will be no security will be impossible to hold back information does whatever bottleneck will will let go we're going to we're going to give in the whatever bottleneck between privacy and ultimate Innovation what will have to be bridged in order for us to achieve the next level of technological proficiency that we're just going to abandon it and they'll be no security no privacy do people want privacy cuz they seem to put everything on the internet and this this idea that one day we are going to be able to share information we're going to be some sort of a thing that symbiotically create symbiotically connect in sure but also we will we will be it will be so much different large or concerns about money about status about what all these things were seemingly go by the way

if we really become enlightened if we really become artificially enlightened by some sort of an AI interface where we have the symbiotic relationship with some new internet type connection to information

what do you what do you hide emotions what do we hide and I mean it I think like embarrassing embarrassing stuff but there's actually people out there like an off that much Best Kept private that people at that it is actually relevant to other people actually care about you think other people care about it but they don't really care about us and something happens don't some people care about it but then it gets weird when you when it gets exposed like Jennifer Lawrence when I was naked pictures or got exposed in some ways people like them or that they really like the person to just a girl who likes sex and it's just a live in as a boyfriend and sends a messages and now you get to look into it and you probably shouldn't have let somebody let it go and they put it online and then all right

yeah. I'm sure she's just like her face is fully realize where we really do become something far more powerful in terms of our cognitive ability or our ability to understand irrational thoughts and and mitigate them and they were all connected and some sort of an insane way what I mean I would have our thoughts on well our thoughts on social status like how many of those just evaporate and our need for privacy maybe our need for privacy would be the ultimate bottleneck that will have to submit it will have to surpass

2008 is not a good time to be a car company especially a startup company and especially an electric car company I was like stupidity squared and this is when you have those cool roadsters with the T-top with Targa Top release chassis the body was completely different but I was a strategy that we actually did dumb

Facey propulsion technology to not working production and we ended up using none of it a long time none of it to resign everything and then the once you add a battery pack an electric motor to a card got to have your kinetic sand heavier invalidated the entire structure or lacrosse structure of everything has to be redone

breaks even as hearing well see the steering wheel was almost the same as the windscreen less than 7% so that's basically the entire structure is different the H2 like the HVAC system that the view of the air conditioner with a belt driven air conditioner

dirty versions of the car so is about 55 on the rear cuz it was the most popular sports cards of all-time heavy rear end by us well I mean yeah the spice Newton not being on their side I get fighting you can it's very difficult well if you got those any sense they do once you understand them once you understand what I hang the engine so fast this is not a wise move you don't want to let up on the gas when you're in a corner the phone was up with Widow with whistling that's where the engine is mouse over the rear axle or off the rear axle towards the rear they pull number in Russia is fundamentally screwed you cannot solve this is unsolvable

elsewhere in private square up a storm to say freaking it's fun way the old house moms have children this freaking thing better I like the looks of the Porsche 912 Porsche handles given that it's the physics to actually still make it work well is incredible if you know how to turn into the corner once you get used to the feeling of it there's actual benefits to it you know that there are some benefits the car I had before Tesla was a 911 okay how's 997 or 6

great Carmen Schneider where they had the variable vane turbo and you didn't have the black guy with great florek like Photo home Claremont the older one or something fun about it though I like the feeling that we're weight kicking around you know what I was talking about earlier about that little car that I have 93 911 Assist it's not fast just not the son of the best handling car but it's more satisfying than any other car I have because it's so mechanical it's like everything about it like crack holes and bumps and he gives you his feedback and I take it to the comedy store because when I get there I feel like my brain is just popping and Sunfire at it's like a strategy for me now

are you should try Model S p100d I'll try to blow your mind skull okay tell me what to order I'll order it Model S p100d okay Jamie just looked car that I drive okay okay I'll get with the car drive okay that's good regular days you'll never notice the battery never never how hard is it to get like one of them crazy plugs installed in your house. Difficult now it's like it's like a dryer Outlet come up with some crazy tiles for your roof that are solar paneled because Russe at the last one time you want to leave for Ruth the last like

February 1st new you don't replace the roof you want to put like so pound on the front so that's like retrofit you know I never try to make the record for pounds look real nice but they're not the new product coming out with is if you if you have a roof that's either you're building a house or you're going to replace a roof anyway then you make the site the tiles have solar cells embedded in the tiles and then it's quite a tricky thing because you want to not see the solar cell behind the book The Glass Tile so you have to really work with the

the glass and end the end of the rarest Coatings and layers so that you don't see the solar cell behind the glass didn't look right so it's really tricky stain put it up there yeah and it looks good see more closely you can see the cell but if you zoom out well looks cool though yeah that's really hard because you have to go through when it gets reflected back out it doesn't act up as a seller now are those available to the consumer right now we have proof right there that's amazing

that looks good yeah I like that one as far as you get that kind of fake Spanish looking thing I like that that's why people in Connecticut smoking pipes that one yeah that's badass dude so I don't actually work I believe you the solar panels that are on that house that we looked at is that sufficient to power the entire home

generally yes I would say it's probably for most it's going to vary but it anywhere from more than you need to maybe half black half to 145 of the energy that you need depending on how much proof you have relative to living space and how ridiculous you are with the TV is no problem there can you stack air conditioning in stupid is the problem if you have an efficient air conditioner and you don't depend on how are you a conditioning rooms when they don't need to be a conditional release by common cause pain in the neck music program your VCR like

Brian that's just the blinking 12 I'll tell people just like the hell with that I was going to make it this time after all day long if you're in the room that it stays cool right I'll be home and then cool the room the room that you're likely to use with a little bit of intelligence we're not talking about like genius home here was talking like Elementary basic stuff from

but you know like if you could hook that into the car next to me was you coming home like an open mind fooling the home we're going to come home really cool when you're not there I can tell that you're coming home was going to call it the right temperature right now after works with your solar panels or anything like that

answer questions about future Patel okay let's just let it go and move on to the next thing that would be interesting I do yeah I would say radiant heating all that good ideas that when you when you think about the efficiency of these homes and you think about implementing solar power and battery power and is there anything else that people are missing is there any other like I just saw a smartwatch that is powered by the heat of the human body

some new technology it's able to fully power that way I don't know if it's okay or if it's I just watch her here this is a Casio it's called a Protech and it's in like an outdoor watching solar powered and so it has the ability to operate for a certain amount of time on solar function for a certain amount of time I saw her like there's a self-winding watches where it has just got to wait and watch and as you move your wrist that the way it moves from one side to the other on and it said white wines to watch up that's a pretty cool thing Rolex is that it's all done mechanically there's no batteries in there is no nothing that's based on wrist movement but it really depends on how much energy to watch uses about 2 weeks after certain amount of like fuckery with those watches like I brought my watch I have a Rolex that my friend Lorenzo gave me and I brought it to the watch store

because it's just what it does to go hold on I go see you telling me that it just is always going to be fast they said yeah it's just like every few months you got to like reset it to recalibrate that thing they can't they tried they say every few months with its 4 months 5 months or 6 months going to be a couple minutes fast okay seems like they recalibrate that because if it's always fast you know delete those minutes to fucking kick down the door at Rolex and go you bitches are lazy it's amazing I mean though the whole luxury watch Market is fascinating I'm not that involved in an intern like I don't buy them I bought them as gifts I don't buy them for myself but when I look at them online with your million-dollar watches out there now they're like they have like little rotating Moons and stars and they they live like look at this thing

is African Preposterous I like yours love them but there's some of these people have just taken it right in the ass than buying these watches for like $750,000 Mike yo that's a Timex Sun nobody knows it's not any better than some Casio that you can just buy online like we do that though here's the thing if your person it doesn't just want to know the time you want craftsmanship you want some Artisans touch you want innovation in terms of like a person figuring out how gears and cogs all line up perfectly to every time it turns over it's basically a second if that's just part 2 that it's a great yes not just telling time that I like this watch a lot but if it got hit by a rock I wouldn't be sad it's just a watch it's a mass produce thing that runs on some courts battery

beautiful yeah yeah yeah there's something something amazing about it it's a because it represents the human creativity it's not just it's not just electronic Innovation there's something is this a person work in that yes

now have I used to have a watch what happened my friend tells the time was you lose your phone you wait hold on let me guess you are an okay Sky that's correct marveled is ability to get through life without a case that's right you know he takes his phone and he flips in between his fingers like like like a soldier would do with his rifle rolls at shed in between his fingers and he says that's the reason why they do it you said would you look

have you ever considered something that like imagine if one day everyone has a car that's on the same at least technological standard as one of your cars and everyone agrees that the smart thing to do is not just to have bumpers but to perhaps have some sort of a magnetic repellent device something some electro magnetic field around the cars race cars come close to each other day automatically radically decelerate because of

yeah I think it speaks or like it was a time of transition where they were horses and gasoline cars in the road at the same time it's been pretty weird yeah you know I'm back in Manhattan had like three hundred thousand horses

do you ever sit and think about your role in Civilization different stop and think about your role in the culture cuz me as a person never met you until today when I think of you you know I've always thought of you as being this weirdo super inventor dude who just somehow or another keeps coming up with new shit

but there's not a lot of you out there like everybody else seems to be I mean obviously you make a lot of money there's a lot of people to make a lot of money you like that clock is right I'll get you one okay done I like weird things like this this is the coolest TGT promotion what is his TGT Studios TGT Studios gentleman who makes all this by hand

Alright Ok Google why do werewolf and one coming up do you think about your role in the culture cuz me as a person ever met you until today I've always liked to do in Pollock houses guys keep inventing shit like how do you how do you keep coming up with all these new devices and what do you ever consider how unusual like I had a dream once that there was a million Tesla's instead of like one Tesla there was a million Tesla's not just leave the car but Nicola there's a million people like him who were radically Innovative it was a weird dream was so strange and I've had it more than once it's one of the only dreams in my life I've had more than one time okay I'm in the same dream and in this dream it's 1940s 1950s but

and it's stuck with me for whatever it obviously was just a stupid dream but for whatever reason all these years that's stuck with me like it takes one man like Nikola Tesla to have more than a hundred inventions that were patents right I mean he had some pretty great pretty fucking amazing ideas but there was his day there was very few people like him that was true what if there was a million like what in the end

now I showed you the isolation tank and you've never experienced that before so I think that could help you turn it off a little bit just for the night yeah just give you a little bit of sleep little bit of perspective magnesium that you get from the water as well that makes you makes you sleep easier because the water is Epsom salts in it but maybe some sort of strategy for sacrificing your biological not sacrificing butt enhancing your biological recovery time by figuring out a way with words to meditation or some other ways to shut off that that thing at night

I doubt that I would say that too but I've never meditated to the level that some of these people out where they're constantly meditating all day they don't have any material possessions and all of their energy is spent trying to achieve a certain mindset I would like to cynically deny that I'd like to send you this a contagious fucking think the same way I do they just hang out with flip flops on and make weird noises but maybe know a lot of people like weed and that's fine but I don't find that is very good for productivity for you or for me

Someone Like You album All a cup of coffee right you want to Yerba mate what do you know I'm saying you would like more more like will be beneficial to you would be like coffee I like to get things done like for useful that is one of the hardest things to do when you say you lied to get things done like in terms of like what you satisfaction when you complete a project on something something that you invent come to fruition and you see people enjoying it that feeling

yes so that you think the dad is maybe the way you recognize that you have these unusual position in the culture where you can uniquely influence certain things because of this mean you sexually have a gift right I mean it's easy to take it was a curse but I'm sure it's been fueled by many many years of discipline and learn learning but you essentially have a gift and that you have this

do you think that perhaps productivity is maybe more attractive to you than Enlightenment and I or even the concept of whatever Enlightenment means like what are you trying to cheat when you're meditating all the time which would view it seems like almost like there's a franticness to your creativity that comes out of this this burning furnace and fruit in order for you to like, that thing down your throat might have to throw too much water on it

I'm strange that was my question answering did you feel diminished by then anyway like knowing this is a weird thing that you really probably couldn't commiserate with with other people they will do it I understand you when you were little girl order to put me away like when you were little you thought this wow

are you tapped into the various things you've been able to accomplish in a very short amount of time and you're constantly doing this that's a weird you're weird person right by Grace what if there's a million Elon musk's

that's what I try to do is make things that somebody loves when you when someone loves like do you specifically think about like what things would improve people's experience like what what would change the way people interface with life that would make them more relaxed or more happy

where is if you knew we would not be a spacefaring civilization before ever confined to a this would not be a good future that would be very sad think it would be so I want to see the finite lifespan of the Earth itself in the solar system itself but even though it's possibly not mean how many how long do they feel like this sun in the solar system is going to exist how many hundreds of millions of years

no I just think like there are two Futures and one future is were out there among the stars and things we read about in Sea and science fiction movies the good ones are true we have these starships and forever

well I mean overtime wouldn't be easy but it's you could just want you can warm it up yeah you can get some water there I mean overtime hundreds of millions of years whatever it takes I'm also planets that would be amazing I want to be me too

yeah me too I think it's great we're glad as a robot that you love humans cuz we we love you too and we don't want you to kill us and eat us and strangely I think a lot of people don't like you're mad at me and say those blinds but I do not but I think one of those I think part of that it's just I've been you know they've been struggling some people struggle they Associated struggle with other people they never internalizing problems they looked other people as holding them back and people suck and fuck people and it's just you know so never never ending cycle

a really good most people vast majority this may sound corny it does sound corny but it has the answer answer it is because we're all scared you know we're all scared of trying to love people being rejected or

now that's probably spend more time with your friends and less time on social media deleting social media from your applications from your phones and then they give you 10% booster happiness was with percentages

so do you ever play the Good outweighs the bad do you ever think about how audit is the weird feeling that you get when someone says something shitted you on Twitter and you read it the weird feeling is weird little negative Joel so I guess objective negative jolt of energy don't really need to absorb but you do anyway I want to fuck was gar

I mean there's a lot of negativity on Twitter it is but it's a weird it's in its form like the way if you ingest it as if you were like you try to be a little scientist as you're ingesting it weird is this that I'm even getting upset and some strange person saying something mean to me

I mean there are vast number of negative comments so vast for the vast majority of I just ignore them like I said it's not good make mistakes yes you can make his own mistakes we're all human we can make mistakes

it's hard and people love it when you say something and you take it back and I fuck you we saved it for ever fucking screenshot that shit bitch you had that thought you had that thought like well I deleted it. Good enough you had the thought I'm better than you I never had that thought you had that thought you piece of shit look I saved it I put it on my blog yeah I hear what people think about it that anyone would think that's releasing it sweet makes it go away it's like hello Internet for a while yeah they don't Brown you to be able to delete it because the problem is if you don't delete it and you don't believe it anymore it's really hard to say hey that thing above I don't really believe that anymore I changed the way I view things people give a fuck you I have that over there I'm going to just take that America to pay attention that shit you wrote underneath it it's on your permanent record forever

so your tattoo you keep it yeah it's it's a there's a lack of compassion so lack of compassion issue people just like intentionally shity to each other all the time online and try to catch that fits Adam or trying to catch people doing something that's arrested ball like a cop trying to like get arrests on his his record like to try to catch you with something more than their logically looking at it thinking it's a bad thing that you've done or if it's an idea they don't agree with so much and you didn't salt you trying to catch you it's way easier to be mean on social media than it is to be mean in person yes way easier it's not a normal way of human interacting it's cheating and I'm supposed to be able to interact so easily but people are not looking at yes you would never do that you don't be so mean to somebody looking in their eyes if you did you'd feel like shit

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give you more credit I couldn't agree more and I want to thank you not just for all the crazy Innovations you come up with and your constant flow of ideas but that you choose to spread that idea which is it's it's very vulnerable but it's very honest and I resonates with me and I believe it I believe it's true too so thank you all you assholes out there would be nice be nice bitch alright thank you everybody thank our lot of you thank you buddy for tuna to the podcast and thank you to our sponsors thank you to the motherfuking cash out the number one app in finance ladies and gentlemen you can download it for free in the app store or the Google Play Market and don't forget when you download the cash app enter the reward code Joe Rogan all one word you'll receive $5 in the cash app will send $5 to Justin wrens fight for the Forgotten charity thank you also to

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