I like the number a lot of guys are tossing around here on the boards. Somewhere in the ballpark of $3-4 million per and maybe 4 years. Seems pretty reasonable to me but with free agency you never know. NFL owners/GM's start acting like rappers in a strip club and let it rain to absurd amounts.

How much should the Texans offer him, whether you agree with their grading or not.

Well considering by your sites own disclaimer, the rating doesn't tell the whole story. There are plenty of names on that list ahead of Quin who are not quite as good or as young as Quin IMO. Especially if you consider a player such as Chung who wasn't even starting at the end of the season for his respective team.

I obviously believe he is higher then #18 & ultimately I believe he should be paid less then Manning, in the $3-4M/year range possibly. I wouldn't be surprised if someone offered him more because just as the Texans did w/ Manning, who wasn't a starter in Chicago, someone will pay a bit more for potential & youth. The difference is Quin is a starter while Manning never was for a long duration w/ the Bears.

FWIW, only 4 guys ahead of him on that list took as many or more snaps, and only 4 more even took 70% of his snaps. Ed Reed took 22 more snaps and is rated well below Quin on this list. LaRon Landry was rated below even Reed and took 6 fewer snaps than Quin.

__________________Hey O'Brien: "How do you tell a guy who is used to catching 80 balls a year that he was going to catch 40?"... You jackass.

FWIW, only 4 guys ahead of him on that list took as many or more snaps, and only 4 more even took 70% of his snaps. Ed Reed took 22 more snaps and is rated well below Quin on this list. LaRon Landry was rated below even Reed and took 6 fewer snaps than Quin.

Most of the players under him are chumps. All the players above him can play. Reed is an exception because of his age (not a chump).

Most of the players under him are chumps. All the players above him can play. Reed is an exception because of his age (not a chump).

I don't know about that one. I have a hard time believing players such as Sanders, Spievey, Leonhard & a few others listed are better then Quin. I think some of that is supported by their lack of snap counts compared to Quin. Im even willing to throw Chung in there as below Quin because he has regressed as of late.

I don't know about that one. I have a hard time believing players such as Sanders, Spievey, Leonhard & a few others listed are better then Quin. I think some of that is supported by their lack of snap counts compared to Quin. Im even willing to throw Chung in there as below Quin because he has regressed as of late.

You can argue the merits of any of those above him but you gotta admit, the list of players under him are largely "just a guys". Quin is an OK player...but he's nothing special.

I don't know about that one. I have a hard time believing players such as Sanders, Spievey, Leonhard & a few others listed are better then Quin. I think some of that is supported by their lack of snap counts compared to Quin. Im even willing to throw Chung in there as below Quin because he has regressed as of late.

Leonhard just had too many injuries to be a starter; Chung is getting there soon if he can't stay healthy this next year, but as far as playing goes, Quin can't compare with a healthy Chung.

Well considering by your sites own disclaimer, the rating doesn't tell the whole story. There are plenty of names on that list ahead of Quin who are not quite as good or as young as Quin IMO. Especially if you consider a player such as Chung who wasn't even starting at the end of the season for his respective team.

I obviously believe he is higher then #18 & ultimately I believe he should be paid less then Manning, in the $3-4M/year range possibly. I wouldn't be surprised if someone offered him more because just as the Texans did w/ Manning, who wasn't a starter in Chicago, someone will pay a bit more for potential & youth. The difference is Quin is a starter while Manning never was for a long duration w/ the Bears.

While the $3-4M salary range is in line with a player of Quin's experience, I can't say that his play deserves it.

The Bears wanted Manning to play at CB, especially at the nickel position (kinda like Quin) and also to return kick; so he wasn't listed as a starter in 08; otherwise, he's a starter since his rookie year. I would say when they moved him to safety full-time, he became the glue of that defense; why the Texans had to offer him so much money to land him.

How much should the Texans offer him, whether you agree with their grading or not.

I'd like to pay him in the $3-$4M/yr range. But I would be willing to go as high as $5M..... but since we paid Manning $5M/yr, & I think (and I think Quin & his agent thinks) Quin had a better year than Manning, he should be paid more than Manning.

This PFF rankings is another of their lists that I just don't get. Is Jairus Byrd a better safety than Quin?

I'm sure most people here would probably argue that he is. However, if we replaced Quin with Byrd & had Byrd play the way Quin does..... I don't think anyone would be wanting to keep him.

For what we're asking Quin to do, I do not rank Jairus Byrd higher than Glover. If we were talking about Manning... sure.

May not mean much around here, but Quin had 14 passes defensed in 2012. I believe 2nd only to Watt on our team. 2 INts, 2 FF, 1 sack

I'd like to pay him in the $3-$4M/yr range. But I would be willing to go as high as $5M..... but since we paid Manning $5M/yr, & I think (and I think Quin & his agent thinks) Quin had a better year than Manning, he should be paid more than Manning.

This PFF rankings is another of their lists that I just don't get. Is Jairus Byrd a better safety than Quin?

I'm sure most people here would probably argue that he is. However, if we replaced Quin with Byrd & had Byrd play the way Quin does..... I don't think anyone would be wanting to keep him.

For what we're asking Quin to do, I do not rank Jairus Byrd higher than Glover. If we were talking about Manning... sure.

OK; I haven't watched him play lately (Byrd) so I don't know what to make of that.

It doesn't mean he can't play the same position Quin played though.
He was a CB in college and a physical one at that.

Still, you're comparing two players because their both classified as "Safeties" & they go about playing the game totally different. Quin plays like a SS (I don't know it he's listed as a SS, but that's what he plays) & Byrd is a FS.

If you're a team that favors the SS (like the Texans in the past) then you're going to rank Quin higher than Byrd. If you're a team that favors FS, then you'll rank Byrd higher.

Manning is also a "good" cover safety who plays physical, but I don't think he would be as good as Quin playing in the box as much as Quin does, manning up as much as Quin does. I'd prefer if Manning was allowed to roam in deep space, which I think he is much better at.