A delegation from the Sichuan Forestry Administration and China Wildlife Conservation Association met with members of our staff.

The San Diego Zoo’s giant panda conservation program has greatly benefited from our long-term collaboration with colleagues in China. The exchange of knowledge regarding the best husbandry practices to ensure the highest-possible level of care for giant pandas has been a hallmark of this international program. We have learned much over the years from our Chinese colleagues, and we have shared what we have learned with them as well.

This summer, we hosted a delegation from the Sichuan Forestry Administration and China Wildlife Conservation Association as its members began their inspection tour of the zoo housing giant panda in the United States. Members of our executive team and staff from our departments of Collections Husbandry Science, Applied Animal Ecology, Reproductive Physiology, and Veterinary Services shared details of our giant panda conservation program and our panda facilities at the Zoo.

A focus of the day’s discussions was the continued international collaboration toward the optimal husbandry care for older giant pandas, as well as the continuation of the collaborative and successful relationship we have developed over the past years. All who participated would agree that is was a successful day, and we are looking forward to continuing our collaboration in support of giant pandas well into the future!

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106 Reader Comments

Danielle, NY

Posted August 1, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Thanks very much for the very interesting report on the meeting with your Chinese colleagues.
I hope that they were impressed by the care you are providing to Bai Yun and Gao Gao and that it could lead to them staying at the San Diego Zoo.

Panda Di

Posted August 2, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Yes, Yes, I agree with Danielle, NY that SDZ is doing an outstanding job in providing the pandas with the best care and trust we will be able to enjoy our pandas for many years!!!!!

Happy Birthday Sun Lin! Will look for her enjoying her ice cake etc.

Danielle

Posted August 2, 2014 at 2:58 PM

Your report was excellent, It is so nice to read what is going on concerning the pandas…Thank you Megan Owen…

puppygirl July 29th You were there with me in spirit to the birthday of our adopted baby darling Mr. Wu… I had fun blowing kisses to him, I told him it was from you and me, and I wished him a very Happy Birthday… Imagine that he is now two years old, it seems like yesterday when he was just a tiny little bundle of love, he still is, of course!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It’s difficult to think that by his third birthday he will be going to China… I hope his third birthday will take a long time to come…and the days are slow and long… We must enjoy each precious day we have with him here in San Diego…
I’ll let you know how it went on the 9th, when we go behind the scene… I hope I get to rub Gao Gao’s back, I was told he likes that!!!!!!!!

My Bk’s are both fine , though I have them both on a diet to lose some weight…they don’t seem to mind…

It will be so wonderful to see Xiao Liwu and his parents close up…Wouldn’t it be great id Mr. Wu would come and sit on my lap!!!!!!!!!!! I would melt!!!!!!!! This darling has captured my heart Mr. Wu Xiao Liwu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love you more,
Danielle in San Diego

Monitor’s note: You’ll have a wonderful experience with our Early Morning with Pandas tour, Danielle, but it does NOT include a behind-the-scenes visit at our panda facility.

Americans working with pandas in China.
One is head of conservation education program, at Chengdu Research Base, directing a staff of eight. She also supervises graduate students there.
Another is employed as panda keeper at Chengdu, since 2012. One of his tasks, is to get giant pandas co-operate with ultrasound exam. He also handles red pandas (lesser pandas, “fire foxes”). He has a master’s degree in conservation biology, plus prior experience handling other animals in U.S. Story: ‘Playing With Pandas’, China Daily usa.com, 2/25/2014, article was written in English.

Panda Nation

Posted August 3, 2014 at 12:32 AM

As of 8/2014, there are 43 pandas, housed at 17 zoos, in 12 countries outside of China. All are collaborating with China, on various aspects of giant panda research.
The majority are on loan. Exception being the two at Mexico City Zoo, who are descendants of “panda diplomatic gifts from 1982”. Both females are senior citizens, about age 27 and 24 yrs. respectively, affording study opportunity in geriatric care.

Seiko

Posted August 3, 2014 at 2:40 AM

Happy Birthday Sue Lin & Zhen Zhen!!
Love, Seiko

Panda Di

Posted August 3, 2014 at 6:48 AM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

ZHEN ZHEN & YA YA

AUGUST 3, 2014

Lill & Bill

Posted August 3, 2014 at 8:40 AM

Happy Birthday, Princess Su Lin, Princess Zhennie, & Prince Yunnie!

We love you and miss all of you! Have a very, very happy, healthy, long life!

Su Lin: 8/2/2005.
Zhen Zhen: 8/3/2007.
Yun Zi: 8/5/2009.

Danielle

Posted August 3, 2014 at 9:23 AM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY to ALL the dear PANDAS who have a BIRTHDAY,YESTERDAY, TODAY and TOMORROW♥♥♥♥♥♥♥,

Danielle in San Diego

Wang

Posted August 3, 2014 at 10:03 AM

Bai Yun was eating some cartons just now，what’s that

Luv Lubker

Posted August 3, 2014 at 10:04 AM

Happy Birthday Xiao Liwu, Su Lin, Zhen Zhen & Yun Zi!

Have there been any updates on Zhen Zhen since her cubbie died?

Debbie in Pa.

Posted August 3, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Happy Birthday to Su Lin, today for Zhennie, and tomorrow for our handsome Yun Zi. You are all so missed and loved by everyone. Live long and happy lives in your homeland. ♥♥♥

Debbie in Pa.

Posted August 3, 2014 at 10:50 AM

Oops, Monday for Yun Zi. I hope China shows us some pics of him and a cake, like Tai Shan got.

Debbie in Pa.

Posted August 3, 2014 at 10:52 AM

Oops, Tuesday for Yun Zi. I’ll get it right eventually, lol. I hope China shows us some pics of him and a cake, like Tai Shan got.

Lucky Atlanta twinkies!! They got a tire swing, and they are thoroughly enjoying it. Any chance for Wu getting one of these? I know there was one (maybe Yunnie surfer swing?), and it didn’t look like Wu was interested that much. But a tire swing? What growing panda boy wouldn’t love that?

Anne

Posted August 3, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Awww … Happiness is being able to see Wu on Panda cam enjoying his boo.

Diana S

Posted August 3, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Thank you for sharing the meeting with your Chinese counterparts, Megan. The statement: “A focus of the day’s discussions was the continued international collaboration toward the optimal husbandry care for older giant pandas…” is encouraging towards Bai Yun and Gao Gao living out their days at the SDZ. Please continue to keep us posted on our precious bears!

Panda Nation

Posted August 3, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Minor correction: As of 7/31/2014, there are 43 pandas, housed at 18 zoos, in 13 countries, outside China.

Xiao Liwu

Posted August 3, 2014 at 2:33 PM

Exciting News: Panda TRIPLET Birth in China.
Per Giant Panda Zoo.com/news, as reported by Jeroen Jacobs: On 7/29/2014, at Xiangjiang Chimelong Safari Park/Guangzhou, China, Ju Xiao (b. 9/28/2002, # 557, maternal niece to Bai Yun) gave birth to triplets. This cousin of mine, has given birth to twins in 2010.
It will be fourth triplet birth, under managed care (1967, 1999, 8/2013, and 7/29/2014). Keep your paws crossed, as not all triplets would survive.

Ongoing tally for 2014 panda births and deaths, through 7/29:
Births: 10, all in China.
Deaths: 3, all in China.

Panda Panda

Posted August 3, 2014 at 3:09 PM

Folks, for latest photos plus news of Su Lin and Zhen Zhen; see
‘Tai Shan VIP’ Facebook Page, as posted by Pandas International:
Three photos of Zhen Zhen, taken in 9/2013, at Bifengxia (posted by Karen Wille, on 8/3/14).
Two photos of Su Lin, taken in 9/2013, at Bifengxia (posted by Karen Wille, on 8/2/14).
SDZ 12/2/13 article, ‘Pandas: How Far We’ve Come’, by moderator Megan Owen.
Presumably, Su Lin and Zhen Zhen would have mated (or artificially inseminated) last spring. Should either or both give birth, message will surely be passed along to SDZ.

In 6/2014 Pandas International.org newsletter, there is a picture of Yun Zi, perched high up a tree. Last month, Pandas International staff delivered early birthday present (ice cake), to Yun Zi at Dujiangyan Center. One can expect more news plus photos on him, in their upcoming August e-newsletter (Please check its website).

Xiao Liwu

Posted August 3, 2014 at 4:40 PM

While I await photos plus further updates, on triplets born 7/29/2014, to my cousin Ju Xiao in China; I did locate old pictures of her with 2010 twins.
7/28/10 Reuters.com: Ju Xiao gently holding one of the newborn twins, in her mouth.
2010 Pandas International/Facebook Page: Ju Xiao, with her twins, female Cai Yun (“Colorful Cloud”) and male Zhao Yang (“Morning Sun”); then several months older, around her.

Xi Meng and I also have half-sister, Lin Hui (now at Thailand’s Chiang Mai Zoo), through common father Pan Pan. Hence, Lin Ping, currently on sojourn at Bifengxia, is my niece as well.
Xi Meng himself, has half-brother, Long Hui, at Schonbrunn (Vienna) Zoo.

Jeslyn in San Diego

Posted August 3, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Saw today there was a large earthquake in China with lots of damage.
I hope it wasn’t near our pandas!

Yun Zi

Posted August 3, 2014 at 9:05 PM

To Jeslyn in San Diego: That magnitude 6.5 earthquake, happened at Ludian County, a remote mountainous region, in NE corner of Yunnan Province. So far, 381 people were confirmed dead, with close to 2000 injured, plus extensive damage to houses, roads/bridges, and electricity/telecommunication infrastructure.

The only giant pandas in Yunnan, are housed at Kuming Zoo, provincial capital, which is far from epicenter. Similarly, captive/wild pandas are located in SW Sichuan Province. There, they might feel some minor aftershocks.
The major casualties will be human lives, plus need to provide food/shelter for survivors.
On Google Map, you should be able to locate Yunnan and Sichuan Provinces, with major cities such as Kuming, Chengdu plus Chongqing. Bifengxia and Dujiangyan are situated SW of Chengdu, making them further away from earthquake epicenter.

Pandamic

Posted August 3, 2014 at 9:29 PM

We do pray that all our China pandas but particularly their diligent & devoted keepers, their families & relatives and all forestry & conservation workers are safe and well. Some of these workers forego normal family lives to be available 24/7 not for profit or gain but for The Giant Panda. I thank you all & pray for you & your country.

Danielle

Posted August 3, 2014 at 11:24 PM

My prayers to the people and pandas and other animals in China who have suffered from the earthquake!!!!!!!!!!!

May the people and animals who have died in this earthquake Rest In Peace!

Danielle in San Diego

Chari Mercier

Posted August 3, 2014 at 11:41 PM

I also heard about that earthquake in Yunnan Province, China. According to USGS, the quake was set at 6.1 magnitude. The 6.5 magnitude was measured by the Chinese Earthquake Agency. Just heard the update on CNN at 2:20am EDT, Monday, August 3rd, and the death toll is still at 381 people which will probably go up, with close to 2,000 injured, many houses and businesses flattened, landslides that have destroyed some roads, and communications/electricity are totally out. Kunming, the capital of Yunnan Province, has a zoo that I think has a couple of pandas living there. Plus, I know from reading a few articles in the past that there several wild pandas that live in those mountains in Yunnan Province. I am hoping and praying that those wild pandas survived this latest big earthquake, and I am praying for all of the Chinese people there that are having to deal with another major earthquake over the last 6 years. This quake in Yunnan Province hit on the very same fault line that triggered the devastating 2008 earthquake in Sichuan Province.
Yes, there were 3 panda birthdays over the weekend! Happy Birthday to Su Lin (BFX, China) who turned 9 years old on Saturday, August 2, 2014. Ya Ya (Memphis Zoo) and Zhen Zhen (BFX) both had their birthdays yesterday, Sunday, August 3, 2014. Ya Ya is 14 years old now, and ZZ is 7 years old now. I’m very sure that all 3 pandas had their very own nicely decorated bday ice cakes and presents with snackies inside of them for the pandas to have fun with and enjoy eating. The next panda to have a birthday this week is Yun ZI–Yunnie–who will be 5 years old this Tuesday, August 5, 2014. We all still miss him since he just got to China earlier this year. He’ll have his first bday party at Bifengxia.
Just read about the collaboration conference that SDZ had with their Chinese colleagues. A lot of information being shared with everyone so that pandas in captivity and in the wild will be taken care of better, and new ways will be adopted to learn more about how these bears tick when it comes to breeding, reproduction, baby pandas, and living their lives in the wild mountains in China.
Gonna go for now. Will be back later on.
Chari Mercier
St. Pete, FL

Panda Di

Posted August 4, 2014 at 5:50 AM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY YUN ZI!!!!

kathy from toronto

Posted August 4, 2014 at 6:06 AM

Breaking news!!! Su Lin has given birth to twins!!!

Monitor’s note: Yes, congratulations to Su Lin!

kathy from Canada

Posted August 4, 2014 at 6:10 AM

Here is the link for the article..you can translate with google or bing for english, there are 3 photos of her and babies.

Returning Giant Panda “Sulin” gave birth to 2014 study centre first twins baby. The afternoon of August 3, returning Giant Panda “su” at the Bifengxia base of the Research Center gave birth to a pair of twin Panda Cubs.

Lisa in Maine

Posted August 4, 2014 at 7:31 AM

I am sorry to hear of the loss of life in China. I hope that all those who were injured survive and that the homes and infrastructure are repaired quickly.

1. Su Lin gave birth to the twins at 4:30 p.m. and 8:45 p.m. on Sunday
2. One cub weighs 173.8 grams and is male
3. Researchers have not been able to tell the gender of the other cub, because Su Lin has been holding it since it was born! (Good sign!!)
4. Su Lin mated naturally with male panda Yuan Yuan on March 20, and was later artificially inseminated with the sperm of another male, Lu Lu.

Bai Yun

Posted August 4, 2014 at 11:17 AM

My daughter. Su Lin, gave birth to twins at Bifengxia Base, on 8/3/14, four hours apart. The first cub weighs 173.8 grams, while second cub is still with Su Lin. I have seen pictures of mother with her 2 cubs. They sure look gorgeous.
Last March, Su Lin naturally mated, plus underwent artificial insemination, with 2 different males. Presumably, at some later time, paternity tests will be performed on her newborns.
In 2011, she also had twins; albeit one was stillborn, the other, male Yun Hui, is now about 3 years old.
Due to her anorexia, associated with birthing process, her official birthday celebration has been postponed.
For details, including THREE PHOTOS OF SU LIN WITH HER 2014 TWINS, go to CCRCGP website: “en.chinapanda.org.cn/ 8/4/2014 news”. Click on ‘Chinese’ icon, then use your own Google toolbar for English translation [If you rely on CCRCGP’s own English language page, you won’t see it; as that ‘8/4/2014 Su Lin Giving Birth To Twins’ page, has NOT yet been translated into English].

Bai Yun

Posted August 4, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Val……Morphological sex determination on panda neonate, size of a butter stick, can be highly misleading. Exhibit A: ZA initially misclassified gender of its four cubs. It is best to wait for DNA testing, see NZ 9/4/2013 Panda Cub Update, for more accurate ‘zinc finger protein’ sex chromatin test, which was first developed by Chinese scientists, and has been used in other species as well.

Val

Posted August 4, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Bai Yun,

I realize this, but posted info as “per ShanghaiDaily.com”. Besides, if the gender turns out to be different than originally reported, we all know it was because Princess Pinky zapped them with her wand as she did in Atlanta. LOL I love all of Anne Belov’s Panda Chronicles postings (and books), but how the twinkies (and older siblings) changed genders was one of my all time favorite story lines!

I miss Yun Zi! Happy Birthday big guy! You are loved. I don’t see Mr. Wu on the cam very often, I miss him. Thanks for posting pictures of him with his cake, he was so cute! I could not see much on the cam, not complaining. I saw Gao Gao for a few minutes yesterday, I have not seen him much either but he looked good! Is he eating Bamboo anymore or the bread that is baked for him. It’s hard getting old, for pandas as well. Beautiful Giant Panda Bears!
Monitor’s note: Gao Gao gets thinner stalks of bamboo for ease of chewing, as well as his bamboo bread and biscuits.

Cheryl Simmons (Long Beach, CA)

Posted August 4, 2014 at 3:16 PM

SDZ, when you have these types of conferences, do the other US zoos with Pandas attend? How much info sharing is done between zoos? You seem to have the most successful breeding program with Atlanta close behind with the first set of twins. Does SDZ have space available to bring another breeding pair of pandas and still keep Bai and Gao Gao as Panda Ambassadors? I know it’s inevitable that Mr. Wu will leave us in a year or so, but would hate to see the SDZ breeding center be put on hiatus for a few years. We love our pandas, especially the babies.
Monitor’s note: This meeting was just between us and our Chinese collaborators, but we do share info with the other US zoos housing pandas. Our Giant Panda Research Station can comfortably house up to six pandas.

Al

Posted August 4, 2014 at 4:57 PM

Dear Cheryl Simmons (Long Beach, CA),
There is International Panda Symposium, when panda researchers, and staff from different zoos with pandas, gather to exchange information, plus share experience. Last year, it was held at Chengdu. Previously, it was at Edinburgh, U.K.
See SDZ 12/2/2013 article, ‘Pandas: How Far We’ve Come’, by moderator Megan Owen.

Al

Posted August 4, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Speaking of collaboration, survival success of panda twins is one example.
China pioneered ‘cub swapping’, practice of which was adopted by Madrid Zoo, and certainly by ZA for its Atlanta twins.
Use of ‘high-fat formula’ in nurseries, is based upon research analysis of natural panda milk, conducted at SDZ.
These two strategies, together with other improvements in postpartum and nursery care, have greatly contributed to survival of twins (plus singletons as well).

Atlanta twins, and Yuan Zai of Taipei Zoo, are all thriving. One could certainly expect, Su LIn’s 2014 newborns, to have similar good outcomes!

Yun Zi

Posted August 4, 2014 at 10:08 PM

To my adoring fans, if you still remember me:
At Pandas International.org’s Facebook Page, scroll down, and you will find its August/2014 e-newsletter. Click to open the post, and find,
1) ‘Spotlight Panda – Yun Zi’: At bottom of page, there are 6 photos of me, strolling in outdoor enclosure, at Dujiangyan.

2) ‘Tai Shan’s 9th Birthday Celebration At Dujiangyan’, photo gallery posted by staffer Annette Yuen. Or, access directly via “Conta.cc/1s8rQHL” web address.
Note: Nomenclature of photo listing, is by row, followed by # counting from left margin. All photos were taken on 7/9/2014, at Dujiangyan.

While it was deemed Tai Shan’s birthday party, all pandas residing at Dujiangyan received individual ice cakes as well. Hence, I got my early present, even though my own birthday is on 8/5.
Cake Composition: ice, carrots, bamboo plus apple slices.

3) Inside August e-newsletter, there is also a picture of grandpa Pan Pan. He also got his ice cake. Now a retiree, he has been sharing words of wisdom with me, drawing upon his long life experience.

Yun Zi

Posted August 4, 2014 at 10:26 PM

P.S. At that Photo Gallery of Pandas International’s August/2014 e-newsletter, click on individual picture, to get enlarged view. Hope you enjoy these July photos.

Now, wish me ‘Happy Birthday’, as it is already August 5th, in China!

Danielle

Posted August 4, 2014 at 11:26 PM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY YUN ZI darling , sweet panda♥

Danielle in San Diego

Debbie in Pa.

Posted August 5, 2014 at 7:35 AM

Happy 5th Birthday to our sweet boy Yun Zi. You are loved and missed so very much. Be happy and healthy in your homeland. Still waiting for them to install cams there so we can see you on a regular basis. Much love, hugs, and kisses.

Cheryl Simmons (Long Beach, CA)

Posted August 5, 2014 at 8:59 AM

Thank you AI! I appreciate the info.

Bai Yun

Posted August 5, 2014 at 11:15 AM

English text plus pictures of Su Lin and her 2014 newborns.
At People’s Daily Online, “english.people.com.cn”, 8/5/2014, ‘Su Lin Gave Birth to Twins at Bifengxia’:
There is English text, translated from Chinese language version, originally posted at CCRCGP/news website.
In addition, 3 photos are on view,
1) Su Lin gently holding her 2nd twin (born 8/3 Sunday, 8:45 p.m., local time), in her mouth.
2) Su Lin cuddling her 2nd twin.
3) Nursery picture of 1st twin (b. 8/3/14, 4:30 p.m., local time).

Hey Danielle~~
So happy to read your post
Thanks for blowing kisses to “our” Precious Wu Wu on his birthday
Sooo glad you got to go !!
It is hard to believe he is two already !!
Loved watching the videos of his birthday party.
His ice cake was SO Beautiful !!
hee hee Afterward pictures look like he Really enjoyed it !!!
Am wondering if Mama Bai came over and gave him a Baff !! ?????

Have to ask you, where did you learn [that] Wu Wu is going to China by his third birthday??
Know he is VERY Special but I don’t understand why this would happen.
If something about it was written on here, I must have missed it.

Happy your “BKes” are doing well. Give them Hugs for me and PG♥♥
Things are the same with PG. She is on 6 different meds and is feeling good.
To be around her and/or see her, you wouldn’t know anything is wrong with her.

Here’s the panda news for the month!
There’s a great 4 part story about a keeper, Qiang Zhou, and a panda, Qiang Qiang, on Pandas International’s website on their blog page. This should be a very interesting read about the relationship between this keeper and the panda.
A new study has been done about pandas’ obsession with bamboo from the University of Sydney, Australia, and Chinese Academy of Sciences. It has to do with how pandas roam around from one area to another area to find and eat 2 different varieties of boo in the mountains at different times of the year. You can read more about this study on Pi’s website blog page.
Tai Shan celebrated his 9th birthday on July 9 by giving ice cakes to all of the pandas at Dujiangyan by all of the keepers there. Tai’s ice cake was a very nice double decker! Tai wanted all of the other pandas to celebrate with him!
More baby pandas that were born in June and July! On June 27, Qing Qing had one baby cub at Bifengxia. Zhang Ka also had one cub at Bifengxia. The biggest surprise came from Panyu Chimelong Safari Park! Ju Xiao made history and had TRIPLETS!! When I read that statement, I went WHAT??? TRIPLETS??? I have never heard of any panda mom giving birth to triplets before, so this one is a new one for all of us! Hopefully, all 3 cubs are alive and squealing! Looks like the keepers and vets will be very busy with doing 3 cub swaps instead of the usual 2 cub swaps that they have been used to doing. This will help Ju take care of each of her 3 cubs–one at a time for a few hours–so that all 3 will be able to have some of that good nutritious momma’s milk that Ju will have available for them. Hoping for more news about how Ju is doing with her 3 babies very soon.
Great panda pics and videos! Granddad Pan Pan enjoying a nice sunny day at Dujiangyan. Love his floppy right ear! Another great pic of momma Hai Zi relaxing in a nest basket with her twin cubs, Miao Miao and Xin Xin. Just watched a very cute video of Bao Bao really enjoying her fruitsicle. She was taking her time with it! CUTE!! Another great video of Mei Lun’s and Mei Huan’s first year of life at Atlanta Zoo. You can also see this same video on the Atlanta Zoo’s panda page; hit photos and videos.
Pandas International has started their Spotlight Panda of the Month this month (July). July’s Spotlight Panda of the Month is our very own SDZ panda–YUN ZI!! Congrats, Yunnie!!! He’s the first panda to be named with this honor by PI.
Well, that’s it for now. Will be back later on. Was on the pandacam, and I did see a panda getting some stalks of boo and started eating it. Couldn’t tell who that panda was, tho. This was at around 5pm today, August 5.
See ya!
Chari Mercier
St. Pete, FL

Chari Mercier

Posted August 5, 2014 at 2:44 PM

Oh yeah, almost forgot about this one! I have read a few comments about Su Lin having twin cubs in the last couple of days! Congrats, Momma Su Lin!! I know that she will do a very good job in raising these cubs (cub swapping at first for a couple of months), and being a very good mom to them. She’s taking after her mom, Bai Yun, anyway with those genes in her!
Chari

Hey Mama Bai and Poppy Gao Gao~~
Congratulations on be Grandparents twice more !!
Am sure you are SO Proud !!

Thank you for posting the web address for seeing pictures of Su Lin and her new babies ♥
They are Terrific and So precious♥

When you see Darlin’ Wu Wu, please give him a BIG ((((HUG))) for me ! ♥

I Love your entire family♥♥♥
puppygirl

Jeslyn in San Diego

Posted August 5, 2014 at 6:29 PM

I am smiling! I got a post from Yun Zi on the blog!!
Thank you so much for explaining where every thing is over there.
Saw the new babies on our local news tonite.

Hao Hao

Posted August 5, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Happy Birthday, Uncle Junior! Now you are as old in years as I am. Hope you are having a good time in China. Love you much, Your Belgian niece,
Hao Hao

Xiao Liwu

Posted August 5, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Instances of panda TRIPLET births on record, under managed care:

1) Per Giant Panda Zoo.com: On 7/29/2014, my cousin, Ju Xiao, gave birth to triplets, at Xiangjiang Chimelong Safari Park (Guangzhou, China). However, there is no official announcement at that park’s own website, or in Chinese news media. For now, consider it yet to be confirmed.

2) 8/2013, at Chengdu Base: two stillborn, one live birth. The lone survivor, female, San’er (“3rd child”, or “miracle baby”), then about 8 months old, posted for picture with family of 3 (Quahtrader, 4/28/2014 YouTube video). The humans were enraptured with that encounter, while San’er could not comprehend the entire fuss!

3) 8/18/1999, at Wolong: one expired 3 days post birth, second cub lived about 13 months, while third cub died at age 10 yrs.

4) 1967, at Shanghai Zoo: none survived.

In essence, giant panda triplet birth is a rare event, and not all will survive!

The following article might be of interest to readers:
‘It’s Been A Panda-ful Year’, by Amy He, October 4, 2013, China Daily/USA – English edition, usa.chinadaily.com.cn.
It discussed species conservation, captive breeding, ‘neoteny'(features making pandas attractive, even as adults), panda loan economics (including cub repatriation), and more. This article also had insightful comments, by SDZ staff.

Danielle

Posted August 5, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Hi puppygirl,

Here at the San Diego Zoo, we learn about the pandas before it is media news!!!!!!

That’s how I found out that our sweet baby panda Mr. Wu will be going to China by his third birthday!!!!!! also, two pandas will be coming to San Diego, and we are hoping one will be one that was born here, we don’t know if China will do that, it is in the negotiation, as China makes all the decisions when it comes to these majestic royal beautiful, darling pandas that we love so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We have the room here at the zoo for more pandas, they have a wonderful set up here for the animals with so much love and care!!!!!!!!

Come on over to the “Peace” and I can talk to you there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ale posted on the “Peace” it was great!!!!!!

Kisses and hugs to you and sweet darling (((PG))),

Love you more,
Danielle

Ann

Posted August 6, 2014 at 8:08 AM

Anyone watching the cam now Gao Gao is up on the screen. Do we know of a health update on him? And what is that little black dot on his forehead? I wasn’t sure if it was a bug but it is not moving. I never noticed that on him.

Monitor’s note: Ann, we don’t have anything new to report about Gao Gao.

Deb E.

Posted August 6, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Congratulations to all the panda staff at SDZ and, most especially to Grandma Bai, Grandpa Gao, and Unka Wu on the birth of Susie’s twins! I remember when Su Lin herself was born in 2005, and how I worried as she grew that her head was bigger than her body, and she’d never grow into it. She was so tiny! My fears were groundless, though. Susie grew into a gorgeous panda lady with perfect panda proportions! Now she’s a mom again; how fast the time passes! God bless Su Lin and her new awesome pawsome!

Danielle

Posted August 6, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Deb E. I too! used to worry about Su Lin, though, she grew into such a beautiful panda, gorgeous like her mom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bai Yun You sure do have beautiful children , and Wonderful Gao Gao you are so wonderful, I love your family…

Mr. Wu you are my precious little baby doll, no matter how big you get!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I want to savor every chance I have to come to see you while you are still here in San Diego..Once you go to China, it will be far in between to get news about you…Oh! we’ll get some news, it’s not the same as seeing you on a daily basis like here at the San Diego Zoo…

I love you and your siblings and your parents, you are so very special to me, as was your siblings when they were here in San Diego!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love pandas in general… The wonderful thing here is that I got to know your family in real life here at the San Diego Zoo…I count my blessings for that opportunity of a lifetime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank You Keepers and all! that take care of the beautiful wonderful pandas and other animals… all of you I love your jobs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Danielle in San Diego

Danielle

Posted August 6, 2014 at 6:45 PM

Xiao Liwu Mr. Wu is sleeping on his pillow the darling love!!!!!!!
How cute is that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love that baby!♥♥♥♥♥♥♥,

Danielle in San Diego

Chari Mercier

Posted August 6, 2014 at 9:34 PM

Hey, Yunnie had a birthday on August 5th!!! He turned a BIG 5 years old on his bday! Hoping that someone got some pics of his bday party at BFX! We all miss him and his funny antics alot, too! HAPPY BIRTHDAY, YUNNIE!!!!!!!
Chari Mercier
St. Pete, FL

Panda Nation

Posted August 6, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Su Lin again gave birth to twins, plus probable triplet birth recently in China.
With Bai Yun’s previous pregnancies, ultrasound exam. had revealed her carrying twins on two occasions, and even triplets once. Through process of in-utero fetal resorption (“prenatal litter pruning”), she ultimately delivered only 6 singletons.

Giant Panda Triplet Births
I still await update a/o official confirmation, of 7/29/14 triplet birth, at Xiangjiang Chemelong Safari Park/Guangzhou, China (?fourth instance, under managed care?).
I did find some information, on 8/18/1999 triplet birth at Wolong. The birth mother then was Yong Ba (deceased in 2011), who was also mother of Tian Tian (NZ). For that set of 1999 triplets: one expired at 3 days post birth, from bladder disorder; the other two cubs died at about age 1 year, and 10 years respectively (?causes of death).
A photo of 1999 triplets, taken shortly after birth, can be viewed at BBC.com/news/Sci/Tech: 8/23/1999, ‘Giant Panda Triplet Cubs’.

Xiao Liwu

Posted August 7, 2014 at 10:17 PM

News from Down Under: 8/1/2014, Adelaide Zoo
Male Wang Wang (“Net Net”, b.8/31/2005) is exhibiting “mate-seeking” behavior. Zoo staff are monitoring estrus onset of his mate, Fu Ni (“Lucky Girl”, b. 8/23/2006), in preparation for possible artificial insemination (Alas, being captive bred, Wang has history of being inept in natural mating). Like Toronto Zoo, Chinese experts are on standby, with frozen sperms (from other males, just in case), to fly to Australia if needed, for conducting AI.
Like Taipei Zoo, Adelaide is hoping 4th AI attempt, would result in charm!
It does appear that, pandas’ reproductive bio-rhythm, can be shifted to “spring time in southern hemisphere”, despite being evolved north of the Equator

Addendum: Fu Ni (Adelaide Zoo)’s biological relationship, with our family, is actually more complicated.
She is half-sibling of Hua Ao (6th surviving cub of Hua Mei), as both share same father Lu Lu.
[Note: My sister, Su LIn’s 2014 twins, could either be fathered by Lu Lu, via AI; or by another male through natural mating. Paternity testing will be done l or 2 years later].
Fu Ni is also distantly related to Yuan Yuan (mother of Yuan Zai, at Taipei Zoo).
Further, Fu Ni is related to NZ pandas, through patriarch Pan Pan.

Confusing, right? No wonder, human matchmakers have to consult the good book, INTERNATIONAL STUDBOOK FOR GIANT PANDAS; for mate selection, to ensure genetic diversity, while avoiding risk of inbreeding!

Florence Vivers

Posted August 8, 2014 at 2:22 PM

I see Bai playing w a black ball hanging from a chain which looks like it covered w apple slices? She’s rubbing her head on the ball. What is that all about?

Monitor’s note: It sounds like the keepers put a favorite scent on the ball–enrichment!

PD

Posted August 8, 2014 at 3:03 PM

For monitor: Any plans to rotate Gao Gao onto exhibit? I would love to see him “in the fur.”

Monitor’s note: Not at this time. Look for a blog update on Gao Gao next week. Spoiler alert: he is doing much better!

Florence Vivers

Posted August 8, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Thank you Monitor for that swift response about Bai’s black ball thingy! Now I see our most handsome little man, Wu, and he is posing for his fans while eating his boo in the most adorable fashion. I just love them all.

carol_lizard

Posted August 8, 2014 at 5:22 PM

glad to hear that Gao Gao is doing better.
Bai always cracks me up when she reclines on the stumps to the right of the pool to eat her bamboo. I don’t even know how she can get into that position as the stumps seem more narrow than her body. but she is always quite pretty.
I always think of Xiao Li Wu as the little baby so it also cracks me up to see him typically chomping on bamboo. he is quite the bamboo eating machine.

Panda Panda

Posted August 8, 2014 at 8:13 PM

“SHIH, QUIET PLEASE”.
Every morning, at Nanjing/China, people gather for square dancing & chorus singing, accompanied by loud music. Such noises are readily transmitted, to zoo located next door, where a giant panda resides. The animal becomes agitated, and has developed irregular heart beat. Now, those square dancers/chorus singers, are being asked, to tune down their acts.

Meanwhile, Edinburgh Zoo is monitoring Tian Tian (not NZ’s Tian Tian), for possible pregnancy, or pseudo-pregnancy. During this period, she is exquisitely sensitive to noise. Accordingly, her indoor den enclosure, is closed to the public. Visitors to panda exhibit area, are reminded to keep their voices down.
In the past, SDZ had implemented similar measures, for Bai Yun as well.

his face looks the same but he has grown quite a bit and his body size really does take after Bai’s

Panda Panda

Posted August 8, 2014 at 11:40 PM

Another example of panda disliked loud noises.
In 8/1980, at Mexico City (Chapultepec) Zoo, panda mother with her 8-day old cub, went on public display. The admiring crowd roared with approval. Tragically, mother Ying Ying was so frightened/startled by such loud noise, that she accidentally crushed cub Xen Li (“victory”) to death.

Now, there is also ‘footprint identification technique’. At Wolong Nature Reserve and Bifengxia Base, American researchers are studying footprints left by giant pandas. Evidently, each panda has its own unique footprint pattern, of 5 toe pads, pseudo-thumb pad, plus heel pad. Such footprints could be utilized, to identify species, individual, sex and age – class levels. They aim to build up a database, to validate this technique, as cost-effective, non-invasive, sustainable method of wildlife monitoring..
Source: 6/3/2014 Pandas International.org blog, ‘Duke University: F.I.T., Footprint Identification Technique. Sizzling Bamboo Shoots & Footprints: Tracking The Giant Panda’.

Lill & Bill

Posted August 9, 2014 at 8:23 AM

Nice treat this morning with the Wuster on good, close up view. Thank you CAM operator and SDZ for the privelege of watching these beautiful creatures!

carol_lizard

Posted August 9, 2014 at 9:35 AM

Xiao Li Wu’s tail looks cleaner this morning than around his bday time. wonder if he has been sitting in ice or took a walk through the water.

Laurence (France)

Posted August 9, 2014 at 10:11 AM

When we see Bai Yun et Gao Gao so happy in their hammocks… and when we remember how happy also Xiao Liwu was in the north exhibit or Bai exhibit (which both have a hammock)… and when we see all comments of panda fans who wish (for a long time now) this hammock for xiao liwu…So, dear moderator : why no hammock for Xiao Liwu ? Is it too expensive ? Too difficult to install in this exhibit ? Why why why ?
A little answer, please ?
Thank’s and best regards

Monitor’s note: Thanks to generous contributors to our animal care Wish List, a hammock for Xiao Liwu can now be ordered.

Hey Danielle in San Diego~~
Am looking forward to your post about your Panda tour behind the scene this morning !!!!!
Really want to hear all about it !!
Love~~
puppygirl

Poppy

Posted August 9, 2014 at 6:41 PM

Beautiful Bai Yun looks so happy and contented in her well-deserved retirement.

Danielle

Posted August 9, 2014 at 6:44 PM

puppygirl Hi,

Our darling baby Mr. Wu has got to be the cutest little giant panda bear EVER!!!!!!!!!!
What a love he is!!!!!!!!!!! We did get to go behind the scene, not in the same exhibition where the Keepers are allowed to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only the Keepers can go in there, because the pandas KNOW! the Keepers, the rest of us are strangers and being they look so adorable, they are wild animals and don’t know us, so we were not able to touch the sweethearts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We were able to go and see things that were very interesting, for example, how their food is prepared, we had to walk onto this kind of wet floor mat to sanitize and it was also a disinfectant on our shoes, so not to contaminate the huge! refrigerators and freezers where the food is kept and prepared…

Rita Petita and I were talking together before the tour, when we BOTH realized we know each other from here on the (blog) and Flkr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She had her camera and came on part of the tour with us…What a lovely person she is… I introduced her to my husband and my 10 year old grand-daughter, We had such a interesting conversation together talking about the precious Mr. Wu , beautiful Bai Yun and wonderful Gao…
The first giant panda we went to see was our darling Mr. Wu who was eating his bamboo, then we went to see Bai Yun, she was anointing herself with cinnamon, one of her favorite scent and eating her bamboo she is sooooo beautiful and funny… she goes to sit on the hammock that is just too small for her, she doesn’t care, she OWNS it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE Bai Yun……What a beauty she is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And Our loving darling Mr. Wu’s favorite scent also is cinnamon…
We were taken to go see wonderful Gao Gao, Oh! I LOVE HIM… No! I didn’t get to scratch his back! and No! our baby Mr. Wu did not come to sit on my lap either…

Gao Gao can be drinking some water at his water fountain, and then stand there looking at you, (so you think he is looking at you) and he falls asleep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He stands very still, doesn’t move and he is sleeping!!!!!!!!!!!! what a love he is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He takes many naps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (He can’t see us because he is near-sighted)…

The weather was 72 degrees and wonderful, it did go up to 75 degrees later on….

Back to the food, we got to go int the freezer walk in freezer, as big as a small house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! where all the food is kept… We saw where the food is daily prepared, the giant pandas are fed three times a day!!!!!!! We saw what will be the beginning birthday ice cake that will be for Bi Yun eventually…

Only their Keepers can actually go near the giant pandas, because they are wild animals, even though, they look so gentle! it could be dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Keepers are around the pandas all the time, so the pandas trust them!!!!!!!!!!! for precaution safety, people can’t just do like the Keepers, it just isn’t done!!!!!!!! The tour guides told us that the pandas are wild animals, it isn’t safe to touch them…(that’s their opinions)…

I looked at darling Mr. Wu and there is no way he looked like he could hurt a fly!!!!!! he is so adorable that darling little panda, he weighs 89 pounds… Though, I was talking to him, he couldn’t see me because pandas a very near sighted!!!!!! I think he could hear my voice when I was talking to him…I don’t know!!!!!

Their biggest thing to the pandas is smell and sounds!!!!!!!!!!! they can recognize scents and smell much better than us humans, but they can’t see us very well….They are very near-sighted… I was talking to Mr. Wu, and looking carefully to see if he could see me, but he couldn’t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! neither could Bai Yun or Gao Gao… Pandas are near-sighted period…There senses are sharp, very sharp…

Our two tour guides were telling us that, it could be possible a BIG Maybe! that Gao Gao and Bai Yun could possibly, maybe have another baby panda! not sure it can happen , it’s mostly wishful thinking right now!!!!!

Well, I have to stop here for a bit!!!!!!!

Sending you and darling (((PG))) a BIG HUG to both of you…

Love you more,
Danielle

Danielle

Posted August 9, 2014 at 8:43 PM

My post went into cyber space!!!!!

Danielle in San diego

Danielle

Posted August 9, 2014 at 8:45 PM

puppygirl, go to the “peace” I posted to you there!!!!!!!

The pandas are gorgeous!!!!!! I Love them!!!!!!

Danielle in San Diego

Danielle

Posted August 9, 2014 at 8:51 PM

I think the reason Xiao Liwu doesn’t have a hammock is because there are so many animals to take care of at the zoo, that the people who work there can only do so much at a time…They probably will get around that eventually, and then maybe they won’t!!!!!!
Meanwhile Mr. Wu sometime gets a nice pillow that he loves to rest on!!!!!!! he is sooo cute….

Danielle in San Diego

Xiao Liwu

Posted August 9, 2014 at 9:42 PM

Another Twin Birth at Bifengxia.
8/9/2014: 16 y.o. You You, gave birth to twins, 5 minutes apart. Staff have initiated ‘twin swapping’, and noted birth weight of one cub: 118.9 grams.
You You naturally mated with Lu Lu last March, with gestation period of current pregnancy being 143 days. This will be her second set of twins.

Dear SDZ Cam & APP MONITOR. The Panda cam Comments has crashed again since around 9pm. I was posting & it just stopped. With the ‘Black&White O/N tonight we are looking forward to the PandaCam Wave in the morning. Hoping it can be sorted before then,it would be so appreciated. Hoping that it is just an easy fix- I’m sure u were all in a rush to join the festivities & maybe someone knocked the OFF switch!!! HaHaHa? Can’t wait to see the treat boxes etc that get made & the B&W outfits during the PANDAMONIUM event. Enjoy & Thanks a Pandillion!!!

Panda Di

Posted August 10, 2014 at 7:05 AM

Yes, also looking forward to the “wave” from all the lucky Black and White campers at the SDZ this weekend.

Happy Birthday to Er Shun in Canada today!

Panda Nation

Posted August 10, 2014 at 9:42 AM

Background Information on Er Shun of Toronto Zoo
Er Shun (“Smoothie”, #676, b. 8/10/2007, at Chongqing Zoo), was initially thought to be a male. Prior to Canadian departure, ‘he’ was sent to Chengdu Base, for a comprehensive exam,, which included DNA gender testing. Much to China’s chagrin, Er Shun is actually a female! Hence, her current mate, Da Mao, was a last-minute substitute.
Being younger, Da Mao (“Big Fur”) is still sexually immature; though China did reassure Canada, that he is indeed a biological male. Last spring, when Er Shun experienced estrus, Toronto Zoo had to fly in frozen sperms from China, for her artificial insemination. Now, Canadians have to keep their “paws” crossed, and simply wait.

Hey Danielle !
Thank’s for these precisions on the zoo’s life ! I now understood that our dear pandas are not the only keepers’ concern ! And a pillow on the tree is always worth a ghost hammock …:-)

But
…hey Puppygirl !
We can continue to ask for Xiao Liwu and one day (maybe …) our sweet bear will receive this dream hammock … He he 😉

Panda Panda

Posted August 10, 2014 at 10:34 AM

Three upcoming August birthdays:
8/19, Mei Sheng, who will be turning 11 yrs. old, at Bifengxia.

8/21, Hua Mei, She will be celebrating her 15th birthday, at Leopard Mt. section of Bifengxia Base. Currently, she is serving as drill instructor, in semi-wild setting; for her male cub (born 7/18/2013, ? name), who has been selected as “potential” candidate, for ‘reintroduction into the wild’. As such, there will be NO ice cake as her birthday present. Instead, she would have to forage, and teach her 10th (or 9th surviving) cub, how to eat bamboo, plus other survival skills.

More on August birthdays.
While Hua Mei, due to her ongoing assignment, probably will not receive her own ice cake this August; three of her offspring can look forward, to enjoy theirs
8/29: Wei Wei, male born in 2005, present location: ?Yantai Zoo/Hubei Provinvce.
8/29: Ting Ting, female litter mate of Wei Wei, present location: ?Wuhan Zoo.
Jia Jia, born 8/2012 (unsure of exact date), 9th cub of Hua Mei, current location:?

From different sources, there seem to be confusion regarding sex of Jia Jia, and Hua Mei’s 2013 cub. Perhaps, when time comes for matchmaking, DNA gender testing will be in order. Or, should the 2013 cub be eventually released into the wild, it could make its own determination in the future.
Another Jia JIa (born 9/3), now at Singapore’s River Safari Park, probably has a different pedigree.

Similarly, there were/are two Shi Shi, two Po, two Bao Bao, three Tian Tian, plus several Zhen Zhen (male & female) etc. Relying solely on given names (Chinese or English transliteration) can be misleading. As some readers have commented, adding studbook # classification (uniquely assigned to each panda, living & dead, under managed care), lessens potential for such confusion.

Per Edinburgh Evening News, just posted 11 hours ago: Female Tian Tian (“Sweetie”) is sheltering entirely inside her den, but refuses to co-operate with ultrasound exam. In conjunction with rising progesterone level, these could be signs of pregnancy, or pseudo-pregnancy. Her indoor enclosure is now closed to general public. British fans will have to cross their “paws” as well!

Danielle

Posted August 10, 2014 at 8:17 PM

puppygirl, Go to “Peace” I posted about our trip yesterday…
I had written you a detail post yesterday here, it got lost into cyber space…
I posted a second very short one that didn’t get lost…
I can tell you that adorable baby doll Mr. Wu is the cutest thing and has this darling baby face!!!!!

Know that pandas are nearsighted and can’t see anything far, though, they have great sense of smell and noise!!!!! Our sweet baby Xiao Liwu sure does love his bamboo…

Beautiful Bai Yun is really beautiful… she loves to sit on the hammock that is really too small for her, she doesn’t care it’s hers!!!!!

Wonderful Gao Gao is precious, Oh! I just can’t describe what a wonderful giant panda he is, he falls asleep a lot… I’m so glad I got to see him up close!!!!!!!

Kisses & Hugs to you and your darling (((PG))),

Love you more,
Danielle

Pam S

Posted August 11, 2014 at 6:34 AM

Just read online, posted today, that Edinburgh’s Tian Tian is hiding herself away, and they are wondering if this is her nesting and she MAY be pregnant! Let’s keep our fingers crossed that it’s true! Good luck!

Pam S

Posted August 11, 2014 at 6:36 AM

Danielle,
This is silly, but I found if I press the “post comment” button on a post, and hold it down just 3-4 seconds, my posts are completed. I know you’ve been having a lot of problems with this. Try it!

Danielle, NY

Posted August 11, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Na Na gave birth to twins at Hetaoping (Old Wolong). It is the first birth at Hetaoping this year.
Na Na had given birth to a son, Shun Shun, last year. He is at one of the kindergarten at Bifengxia.

Danielle, NY

Posted August 11, 2014 at 9:13 AM

Xiao Liwu,

As far as I know 22 cubs were born so far this year, all in China.
Including Na Na’s twins born on August 10, I think that 7 sets of twins were born, one set of triplets (no news since their birth…) and 5 single cubs.
Could you please let us know which cubs died? You mentioned that 3 cubs died as of August 9.

Danielle

Posted August 11, 2014 at 9:21 AM

Thanks Pam, I have done that, sometimes it works!!!!!!!

Check out the web cam, someone is sleeping taking a nice nap on a pillow on the hammock, and it’s not Bai yun!!!!!!!!!!!!… Could it be wonderful Gao Gao? it has to be, because darling Xiao Liwu doesn’t have a hammock, hopefully one day the zoo will have help to put one for Mr. Wu… They are very busy at the zoo, so many animals to give them good care… it’s amazing how many animals are at the zoo and the wonderful care they get…and the food that they have to prepare for them Oh! my goodness , it’s amazing!!!!!!! If I was not disable I would volunteer my time every day over there…

These wonderful animals have a beautiful place to live…and great care!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Danielle in San Diego

Danielle

Posted August 11, 2014 at 9:23 AM

Lost my post again…I did hold for 3-4 seconds, it got lost again!

Danielle in San Diego

Danielle, NY

Posted August 11, 2014 at 10:36 AM

Ju Xiao’s triplets born on July 29 in Guangzhou are all alive!
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Laurence (France)

Posted August 12, 2014 at 4:46 AM

Thank you for your answer at my question (posted August 9, 2014 at 10:11 AM), dear monitor : i am very happy that the hammock can be ordered !

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