Posted - 2007.12.08 08:42:00 -
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I didn't bother reading past the first page yet because im sure this has turned into an EPIC smack thread, but in any case, MANY alliances have either taken space on their own or with allies. A personal example is SMASHKILL, had nothing but now have mutliple regions as a coalition, enduring nearly 1.5 years of CONSTANT onslaught from alliance/corp xyz trying to evict and/or cripple us.

Rise on the other hand PAID for space, hand over fist i might add (which i suppose on one hand is worth saluting that anyone has that much isk to pay for space, but worth crying about on the other hand because they paid to be a meatshield in the most unstable area in EVE...which is just stupidity thanks to their leadership) Its the equivalent of the intellectual prowess of an Islamic leader in the middle east convincing his community to suicide bomb the west.

K/D Ratios mean nothing if you cant HOLD your space... and especially if you have no part in taking it in the first place. Despite the fact that RISE K/D's aren't that great to begin with, considering their "legendary" allies, those k'ds mean even less because they've managed to hold onto ZERO space. Even after paying at least a Titan's worth of isk to their landlords, the leadership is still too ignorant to realize theyre on the wrong side, meanwhile anyone who has allied themselves with RedSwarm, has only seen reward. In fact in the past two years not a single entity that has allied themselves with BoB has seen a reward of any kind. Hell even look at the new MC and FIX boundries on the influence map... formed up as a line of defense for BoB, a meatshield for lack of a better description of ANY kind. MC is a mercenary alliance indeed proving even to this day that despite being what i would describe as one of eve's strongest forces, because of leadership subjugating themselves to the role of a meatshield for a sub par and overrated alliance.

Although perhaps calling them underrated isn't fitting considering they can convince very formidable alliances to believe that theyre worth sacrificing isk, ships, and space for on a constant basis. And if you want to talk further about alliances taking and keeping space on their own, look at Triumvirate... compared to INFOD and Euphoria Released, Infod and ER both great pvp'ers, have managed to keep/take ZERO space, TRI on the other hand have taken a butload of space, or Razor for example, a "dead" alliance much like my own, have more space now than ever before.

Eve is not about kills, its about space, and Rise has none... Anyone that knows anything about finance knows about the "bottom line" and Rise hasn't a positive one.

Goons making out like they skillfully demolished Rise with there HUGE numerical advantagePandemic chest beating about slaughtering Rise with nano Flotillas after Rise had been beaten to a pulp.Razor's condescending attitude to people who hang around and give a GFFerge deriding people for being incompetenet and not conquering there own space. (ThatFs rich)

I canFt wait for the next exiting revelation, perhaps about how scripts have been praised far and wide as the improvement the eve community has been long been demanding .

bob pet support society activate

man styx wow, you're one of the last ones left

You talk a pretty mean game for somebody TGIF'ing your way though a couple of mojitos in December. 10 kills over 8 months? You monster.

You talk a pretty mean game for.... whatever styx is. We'll see you soon don't sweat it baby.

Also, as a footnote. Can you people get over the "WE STILL SEEM TO BE HERE WE'RE NOT DEAD YET" thing? It's in every thread and in most cases nobody's said you were. It's pretty stupid.

Originally by:ArakkI didn't bother reading past the first page yet because im sure this has turned into an EPIC smack thread, but in any case, MANY alliances have either taken space on their own or with allies. A personal example is SMASHKILL, had nothing but now have mutliple regions as a coalition, enduring nearly 1.5 years of CONSTANT onslaught from alliance/corp xyz trying to evict and/or cripple us.

Rise on the other hand PAID for space, hand over fist i might add (which i suppose on one hand is worth saluting that anyone has that much isk to pay for space, but worth crying about on the other hand because they paid to be a meatshield in the most unstable area in EVE...which is just stupidity thanks to their leadership) Its the equivalent of the intellectual prowess of an Islamic leader in the middle east convincing his community to suicide bomb the west.

K/D Ratios mean nothing if you cant HOLD your space... and especially if you have no part in taking it in the first place. Despite the fact that RISE K/D's aren't that great to begin with, considering their "legendary" allies, those k'ds mean even less because they've managed to hold onto ZERO space. Even after paying at least a Titan's worth of isk to their landlords, the leadership is still too ignorant to realize theyre on the wrong side, meanwhile anyone who has allied themselves with RedSwarm, has only seen reward. In fact in the past two years not a single entity that has allied themselves with BoB has seen a reward of any kind. Hell even look at the new MC and FIX boundries on the influence map... formed up as a line of defense for BoB, a meatshield for lack of a better description of ANY kind. MC is a mercenary alliance indeed proving even to this day that despite being what i would describe as one of eve's strongest forces, because of leadership subjugating themselves to the role of a meatshield for a sub par and overrated alliance.

Although perhaps calling them underrated isn't fitting considering they can convince very formidable alliances to believe that theyre worth sacrificing isk, ships, and space for on a constant basis. And if you want to talk further about alliances taking and keeping space on their own, look at Triumvirate... compared to INFOD and Euphoria Released, Infod and ER both great pvp'ers, have managed to keep/take ZERO space, TRI on the other hand have taken a butload of space, or Razor for example, a "dead" alliance much like my own, have more space now than ever before.

Eve is not about kills, its about space, and Rise has none... Anyone that knows anything about finance knows about the "bottom line" and Rise hasn't a positive one.

Goons making out like they skillfully demolished Rise with there HUGE numerical advantagePandemic chest beating about slaughtering Rise with nano Flotillas after Rise had been beaten to a pulp.Razor's condescending attitude to people who hang around and give a GFFerge deriding people for being incompetenet and not conquering there own space. (ThatFs rich)

I canFt wait for the next exiting revelation, perhaps about how scripts have been praised far and wide as the improvement the eve community has been long been demanding .

bob pet support society activate

man styx wow, you're one of the last ones left

You talk a pretty mean game for somebody TGIF'ing your way though a couple of mojitos in December. 10 kills over 8 months? You monster.

You talk a pretty mean game for.... whatever styx is. We'll see you soon don't sweat it baby.

Dont you remember? Styx are like YouWhat refugees that couldn't bear to stop paying bob tithe in some form or another.

Goons making out like they skillfully demolished Rise with there HUGE numerical advantagePandemic chest beating about slaughtering Rise with nano Flotillas after Rise had been beaten to a pulp.Razor's condescending attitude to people who hang around and give a GFFerge deriding people for being incompetenet and not conquering there own space. (ThatFs rich)

I canFt wait for the next exiting revelation, perhaps about how scripts have been praised far and wide as the improvement the eve community has been long been demanding .

bob pet support society activate

man styx wow, you're one of the last ones left

You talk a pretty mean game for somebody TGIF'ing your way though a couple of mojitos in December. 10 kills over 8 months? You monster.

You talk a pretty mean game for.... whatever styx is. We'll see you soon don't sweat it baby.

Dont you remember? Styx are like YouWhat refugees that couldn't bear to stop paying bob tithe in some form or another.

edit: son of a ***** I forgot I dropped this character from goonfleet

IM A MAN NOT A MACHINE!! I CAN ONLY TAP SO MUCH INFORMATION ON THE SPACE UNIVERSE

Originally by:Arakk Its the equivalent of the intellectual prowess of an Islamic leader in the middle east convincing his community to suicide bomb the west.

meanwhile anyone who has allied themselves with RedSwarm, has only seen reward.

Firstly , please dont use RL analogies, especially inflammatory ones. Secondly, its strange you say the second half when you read the following in another thread.

Originally by:MolocWe did help you, we helped take Detorid, when RA slept the US TZ of SMASH was with Goons bolstering their US Dread power (something I'm sure they no longer need, but at the time they did). SMASH went in with Goons into Cloud Ring (albeit a vastly different and smaller SMASH to what exists today). And what did we get for it, we got reset, and WHILE our dreads were in the field helping you, you threatened to have them all wiped out for the actions of someone who was in SMASH for about a week, and had already left, and it didn't even involve RA, just one of MACTEP's 'friends', who was feeding him a pack of lies to get him to do his bidding. It took the Goons to stop you from completing the ultimate back-stab.

So that was it, RA closed any help that they would ever get from SMASH, only BoB rolling into cache would have probably got us back there. Instead we went to help Razor/MM and Co, allies that have more honour. At RA's request, they were eventually set blue again, you can speculate on what the reasons for that were, but my guys have been upset at the lack of targets since. At the same time, many of the faces that we were used to shooting on a regular basis appeared in xXDEATHXX alliance, so we still got to shoot them at least.

Originally by:Arakk Its the equivalent of the intellectual prowess of an Islamic leader in the middle east convincing his community to suicide bomb the west.

meanwhile anyone who has allied themselves with RedSwarm, has only seen reward.

Firstly , please dont use RL analogies, especially inflammatory ones. Secondly, its strange you say the second half when you read the following in another thread.

Originally by:MolocWe did help you, we helped take Detorid, when RA slept the US TZ of SMASH was with Goons bolstering their US Dread power (something I'm sure they no longer need, but at the time they did). SMASH went in with Goons into Cloud Ring (albeit a vastly different and smaller SMASH to what exists today). And what did we get for it, we got reset, and WHILE our dreads were in the field helping you, you threatened to have them all wiped out for the actions of someone who was in SMASH for about a week, and had already left, and it didn't even involve RA, just one of MACTEP's 'friends', who was feeding him a pack of lies to get him to do his bidding. It took the Goons to stop you from completing the ultimate back-stab.

So that was it, RA closed any help that they would ever get from SMASH, only BoB rolling into cache would have probably got us back there. Instead we went to help Razor/MM and Co, allies that have more honour. At RA's request, they were eventually set blue again, you can speculate on what the reasons for that were, but my guys have been upset at the lack of targets since. At the same time, many of the faces that we were used to shooting on a regular basis appeared in xXDEATHXX alliance, so we still got to shoot them at least.

What are you quoting the SMASH dude for? I don't get it? CONTEXT PUT SOME ******* CONTEXT IN YOUR QUOTES YOU ******* IMBECILE

:edit: I see you're saying SMASH asn't seen reward. You're as good at propaganda as you are at holding space. SMASH was paid for the engagements I can recall them being involved in. Nice try though. Add that to your fail list if there's room.

Posted - 2007.12.08 09:27:00 -
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What I don't understand is how you even let goon posts get under your skin. Half of them are just 2007 players without a single solo kill who just regurgitate the same one-liners over and over. The ones that are decent pvpers don't post here.-------

Originally by:Vasili ZWhat I don't understand is how you even let goon posts get under your skin. Half of them are just 2007 players without a single solo kill who just regurgitate the same one-liners over and over. The ones that are decent pvpers don't post here.

What are you quoting the SMASH dude for? I don't get it? CONTEXT PUT SOME ******* CONTEXT IN YOUR QUOTES YOU ******* IMBECILE

:edit: I see you're saying SMASH asn't seen reward. You're as good at propaganda as you are at holding space. SMASH was paid for the engagements I can recall them being involved in. Nice try though. Add that to your fail list if there's room.

Im sorry you were required to read and comprehend and raise your blood pressure. I guess your right though, they did get paid in the form of getting set red by RA and an invasion of there space.

All I'm saying is there are no benevolent alliances as Arrak made RA out to be.

Originally by:Vasili ZWhat I don't understand is how you even let goon posts get under your skin. Half of them are just 2007 players without a single solo kill who just regurgitate the same one-liners over and over. The ones that are decent pvpers don't post here.

Your posting reminds me of Whack-A-Mole, you make the cutest little squeaks after you get smashed.

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