I wanted Phil Taylor in the draft so naturally I'd still want him. My only two question would be why the Browns would give up on a productive 25yr old kid unless they are worried about that ankle and is Taylor and Vince enough to generate pressure up the middle? The one thing about Taylor was he was a better gap plugger then a pocket pusher. Mallett for Taylor though I would take in a heart beat, toss in their 3rd and that turns into Sanders and Taylor for Mallett, now that's a deal

Trading him for a potential franchise QB is not giving up on him. It's getting value, trading an asset for another one. Giving up would be dumping him for nothing.

Yes, and a 3rd rounder. I know what your saying, but mallett has a chance to be a franchise QB, and this draft is deep in DT talent. Lombardi could use his first on Richardson, Star or whoever, and he gets his potential franchise QB.

I wanted Phil Taylor in the draft so naturally I'd still want him. My only two question would be why the Browns would give up on a productive 25yr old kid unless they are worried about that ankle and is Taylor and Vince enough to generate pressure up the middle? The one thing about Taylor was he was a better gap plugger then a pocket pusher. Mallett for Taylor though I would take in a heart beat, toss in their 3rd and that turns into Sanders and Taylor for Mallett, now that's a deal

Trading him for a potential franchise QB is not giving up on him. It's getting value, trading an asset for another one. Giving up would be dumping him for nothing.

give up was maybe the wrong choice of words but Taylor is a proven starting DT/NT Mallett has high potential. That's why taking Mallett for picks makes sense (potential for potential) but potential for a starting caliber player value is not quite the same which makes me wonder about Taylor

I wanted Phil Taylor in the draft so naturally I'd still want him. My only two question would be why the Browns would give up on a productive 25yr old kid unless they are worried about that ankle and is Taylor and Vince enough to generate pressure up the middle? The one thing about Taylor was he was a better gap plugger then a pocket pusher. Mallett for Taylor though I would take in a heart beat, toss in their 3rd and that turns into Sanders and Taylor for Mallett, now that's a deal

You also gotta remember that value for a DT/NT is quite different than a QBs value. QB is the most important postion in the game. If they were both the best at their position, who would you take? The QB or the DT? I think thats why this makes alot of sense. I just dont now about getting a 3rd with Taylor. Maybe a 4th or lower.

I would generally agree but Mallett is still potential at this point and Taylor is proven talent which gives him more value imo

I would trade Mallet for Taylor. We need a young space eating DT next to VW. I doubt cle would give a 3rd too though. i think Sanders is in for leverage against Lloyd to resructure. No f-ing way we give up a 3rd for a scrub receiver with potential.

You think Sanders is a scrub receiver? Pioli (not that I really value a thing he says) said this would be a steal and that Sanders is a good player.

I would trade Mallet for Taylor. We need a young space eating DT next to VW. I doubt cle would give a 3rd too though. i think Sanders is in for leverage against Lloyd to resructure. No f-ing way we give up a 3rd for a scrub receiver with potential.

You think Sanders is a scrub receiver? Pioli (not that I really value a thing he says) said this would be a steal and that Sanders is a good player.

I read Pioli's comments. I guess scrub sounds harsh but my point was judging by what he has done in a pass heavy offense he only has potential. I wouldn't want to give up our 3rd rder for a guy that is in no way proven. Now if Lloyd is cut then our backs are against the wall a little....but that isn't how BB operates. I really think it's due dilligence.

You also gotta remember that value for a DT/NT is quite different than a QBs value. QB is the most important postion in the game. If they were both the best at their position, who would you take? The QB or the DT? I think thats why this makes alot of sense. I just dont now about getting a 3rd with Taylor. Maybe a 4th or lower.

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I would generally agree but Mallett is still potential at this point and Taylor is proven talent which gives him more value imo

Think of it this way, what would a QB needy team give up to get Geno Smith or whichever rookie QB they think could be their franchise guy? Probably value equal to Taylor or more. If Mallett turns out to be that good, they'll forget about Taylor in a hurry.

I would trade Mallet for Taylor. We need a young space eating DT next to VW. I doubt cle would give a 3rd too though. i think Sanders is in for leverage against Lloyd to resructure. No f-ing way we give up a 3rd for a scrub receiver with potential.

You think Sanders is a scrub receiver? Pioli (not that I really value a thing he says) said this would be a steal and that Sanders is a good player.

I read Pioli's comments. I guess scrub sounds harsh but my point was judging by what he has done in a pass heavy offense he only has potential. I wouldn't want to give up our 3rd rder for a guy that is in no way proven. Now if Lloyd is cut then our backs are against the wall a little....but that isn't how BB operates. I really think it's due dilligence.

We haven't had much success drafting receivers in the third round...I know what you're saying, but it looks like decent value to me. These outside receivers are getting paid too much right now, chances are we can sign him to something reasonable that the Steelers can't match.

I would trade Mallet for Taylor. We need a young space eating DT next to VW. I doubt cle would give a 3rd too though. i think Sanders is in for leverage against Lloyd to resructure. No f-ing way we give up a 3rd for a scrub receiver with potential.

You think Sanders is a scrub receiver? Pioli (not that I really value a thing he says) said this would be a steal and that Sanders is a good player.

I read Pioli's comments. I guess scrub sounds harsh but my point was judging by what he has done in a pass heavy offense he only has potential. I wouldn't want to give up our 3rd rder for a guy that is in no way proven. Now if Lloyd is cut then our backs are against the wall a little....but that isn't how BB operates. I really think it's due dilligence.

We haven't had much success drafting receivers in the third round...I know what you're saying, but it looks like decent value to me. These outside receivers are getting paid too much right now, chances are we can sign him to something reasonable that the Steelers can't match.

to be fair, short of Moss and Welker we haven't had much luck in FA or trades for WRs either