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Black Cleaver is Over Powered

I mean, the fact that even after Black Cleaver's nerf it's still possible to achieve 70%+ amounts of armor pen, rendering Rammus (A charecter that relies on stacking armor) and Malphite (A well rounded armor tank) useless under a majority of circumstances. Rammus will practically die if he taunts an ADC building like this, and Malphite, who typicly builds less armor, will also be unable to tank without stacking HP... and although that might be effective, Malphite will still be outclassed by true health tanks... And those who benefit from stacking HP (Vlad, Volibear, ect).

Currently the black cleaver stacks are not unique in game. If you have 3 cleavers you will proc 12 stacks of cleaver. Don't believe it, go play a custom game, farm up with a friend, and have him Talon combo you. Or Pantheon E you. You will see 3 debuff boxes come up each with 4 stacks.

Currently the black cleaver stacks are not unique in game. If you have 3 cleavers you will proc 12 stacks of cleaver. Don't believe it, go play a custom game, farm up with a friend, and have him Talon combo you. Or Pantheon E you. You will see 3 debuff boxes come up each with 4 stacks.

On PBE they made it unique, but it still synergies way to well with Last Whisper on PBE for tanks to do anything. 70%+ is just way too much.

Show me a level 5 League player who can outplay a cactus and I might take anything he says about balance seriously.

Yes, Black Cleaver should have been unique from the start. At the same time, people who are having trouble with Cleaver stacking should build health instead of armor if they want to tank it. Who cares if they deal 200 true damage per attack (most likely less than 1 attack per second) when you have a 5k lifebar?