Jim Sinclair: Last Take Down Before Gold Trades At New Highs!

Legendary gold trader Jim Sinclair sent out an email alert to subscribers Monday night regarding the manipulative dump of $1.3 billion in paper gold on the week’s COMEX open. Sinclair, who called the top in the last gold bull market to the day, stated that Monday’s gold take-down was to allow the bullion banks to cover their shorts, and to initiate and expand long positions in advance of gold’s coming bull rally.Sinclair, who has long stated that the entities that will make the most during gold & silver’s massive secular bull markets are the very bullion banks who have been naked short throughout the duration,warns that the bullion banks are GOING LONG HERE AND NOW!Sinclair states that long term cycles in gold are turning positive and that this was likely “the last take down before gold trades at new highs“. Sinclair’s full MUST READ alert is below:

Manipulation such as the sale of $1.3 billion dollars worth of paper gold at an illiquid time period today is not to protect the dollar or bull the general equity market. It is to make money for the manipulators that want here to cover their shorts and initiate to expand their long positions. That sale was a pure construct as there was no news to sustain the sell or to initiate it in the time span of its occurrence.

Long term cycles in gold are in the process of turning long term positive. That is fact. There is a strong possibility that this is the last take down before gold trades at new highs. I feel this is the situation.

The economic dislocation internationally in banking exposure to its risk profile is at levels greater than 2007-2008, and is the subject basis of the letter attached here from the “Sovereign Man” as an example of what success can be expected from the certain program of Bail-In for the entire Western financial system.

Clearly we are witnessing the popular delusions and madness of the crowd in general markets and today in the reverse in the gold price. This will make new highs after the failure of this clearly false price construct of this morning’s illiquid time period.

Sincerely,
Jim

Sovereign Man July 14, 2014
Istanbul, Turkey

It’s been over a year since the banking system in Cyprus officially went bust.

On Friday, March 15, 2013, practically everyone in the country went to bed thinking that everything was just fine.

Many had probably gone to the bank that very day to do business, or logged on to an Internet banking platform.

Yet the very next morning, they woke to a completely new reality: the nation’s banks were broke, and the government was in no position to rescue them.

All the promises they had been told about government guarantees and having a ‘well-regulated’, sound banking system turned out to be lies.

The government proclaimed a bank holiday, and banks remained closed for the next several days. Accounts were frozen and ATM withdrawals were limited to only 100 euros a day.

Eventually the plan materialized: substantial portions of deposits over 100,000 euros would be confiscated in exchange for equity in the banks.

(Just imagine-Bank of America, RBC, or Lloyds takes your money and gives you stock certificates that subsequently plummet in value!)

And for everyone else, severe capital controls were instituted-some of the worst in decades.

After more than a year, some capital controls have been lifted. Though it’s still not possible to transfer money out of Cyprus without the central bank’s approval.

And what does the banking system have to show for sixteen months of capital controls, bailouts, and deposit confiscation?

It turns out that banks in Cyprus are still pitifully capitalized.

The country’s largest bank, the Bank of Cyprus, was at the epicenter of the calamity last year. And they still face a mountain of bad loans.

A staggering 55% of the bank’s loan portfolio is delinquent. And now they’re having to sell stock in order to raise an additional billion euros in capital.

Bear in mind, the shareholder equity for the bank right now is only 2.7 billion to begin with. So they’re having to increase that by a whopping 37%!

Needless to say, this is not something that a healthy bank in a healthy banking system has to do.

Wealth tax next?

There are two key lessons here:

1) Banks and governments will -never- tell you the truth about the system. They will lie all the way through to a full collapse.

2) A banking relationship cannot be taken for granted. It’s important to conduct due diligence, just as you would with any important financial decision.

We’re led to believe that banks are prudent and safe institutions. That they’re insured by the government. That they’re “risk-free”.

Subsequently, most people expend more energy in choosing a brand of toothpaste than in selecting the financial steward who controls their life’s savings.

Remember: this decision doesn’t have to be limited by national borders.

Just as you might move somewhere for more lucrative job opportunities and better schools for your kids, you can also move savings to a place with better financial opportunities and stronger banks.

It’s hard to imagine you’ll be worse off holding some funds at a foreign bank that’s 20 times more liquid and 4 times more solvent than where you bank now.

But if the worst happens and you get Cyprus’d tomorrow morning, it could turn out to be one of the smartest financial decisions you could make.

And unless the past several years have given you 100% confidence in your government and banking institutions, this is an important step I recommend you consider.

Quarterly silver production decreased 3.7% when compared to the same period of 2013
and previous quarter mainly due to the lower silver ore grade (253 g/t 1Q14 vs 272 g/t
1Q13; -7.0%) and (253 g/t 1Q14 vs 262 g/t 4Q13; -3.4%), respectively, which resulted from:
i) the expected natural decline in ore grades as mineral from deeper stopes is being mined;
and ii) delay in the development of the San Carlos and San Alberto areas as a result of
mechanical failures in some of the in-mine contractors’ equipment. We are working with
our contractors to resolve this and do not anticipate any impact on our 2014 production
targets.

In accordance to our latest analysis, which included current mine development and
updated mining plans, we have decreased our average silver ore grade expectations for
2014 from 280 g/t to levels around 270 g/t.

The adverse effect of the lower silver ore grade from deeper levels at the San Carlos vein
was partially compensated by a slight increase in recovery rates (+2.0%) and higher
volumes of ore processed (+1.6%) compared to the first quarter of 2013.

Quarterly by-product gold, lead and zinc production increased by 18.5%, 2.5% and 29.2%,
respectively when compared to the same period of 2013 as a result of higher ore grades and
recovery rates.

However, gold and lead production for the first three months of 2014 decreased when
compared to the previous quarter by 27.9% and 15.1%, respectively as a result of lower ore
grades whilst zinc production increased 7.5% due to higher recovery rates and ore grades

When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing; when you see that money is flowing to those who deal not in goods, but in favors; when you see that men get rich more easily by graft than by work, and your laws no longer protect you against them, but protect them against you … you may know that your society is doomed. So the smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities. So the smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.

You see, every time you take cash out of the bank and buy physical Silver, you are NOTspending that money. You are merely transferring it from a financial Bank Account to another more sound “bank account”……your “mattress”! Fiat cash converted into physical Silver actually IS a bank account albeit a real bank account! Also, it is you that controls it’s “interest” gain now and it is you that controls it’s possession. The last thing one should do is follow the herd when it pertains to preserving you wealth. And no matter how you retain it, your bank account and cash is NOT WEALTH! Wealth is physical and cash, believe it or not….is not wealth.

Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thought crime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it. – George Orwell, 1984

“SO the question is – what are we going to do about it? To quote Jim Morrisson, “They’ve got the guns, but we’ve got the numbers.””

Torches and pitchforks, baby, torches and pitchforks!

And, no, they do not have ALL of the guns. They ARE trying to get them but they will fail as many simply WILL NOT COMPLY with any unconstitutional “orders” to turn them in. The number of boating accidents where guns are “lost” in deep water will be legion.

ARTICLE IS GREAT! POSTS ARE GREAT! IT IS LOOKING LIKE TODAY MIGHT BE THE ONLY DAY THAT I HAVE A CHANCE TO GET 90% SILVER AT 16.5 TO ONE. GLAD I BOUGHT SOME YESTERDAY! THIS IS ALSO SCARY HOWEVER – MY HOW HARD WE WILL FALL! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_jQ4xWwKvU

“I am thinking about trading some gold for 90% silver today. What do you gentlemen think?”

That’s an interesting question and one that is tricky to answer. The relatively high gold to silver price ratio indicates that this MIGHT be a good idea.

On the other hand, some people feel that having some gold to go along with their silver is also a good thing. I love the portability of gold. I can slip $30,000 worth of gold into my jeans pockets and no one knows I have it on me. Trying to do that with silver would require a hand truck or a wheel barrow.

I guess that I am in the camp that wants both silver and gold… silver for everyday living expenses and gold for large item purchases and wealth portability. As soon as one chooses this, however, one is confronted with the split that one has between these PMs. Currently, I have about 180 ounces of silver for each oz. of gold. My next purchase is likely to be another 5-oz. of gold. This will reduce my S / G ratio to about 145 to 1. My ultimate goal is 100 to 1 in terms of ounces. Once I hit this, I will buy 100 ozs. of silver for every oz. of gold I buy to maintain it. I have no real reason for this other than I want to own both silver and gold for various reasons and this ratio is both doable and convenient. Depending on the situation, either can make more sense to own than the other.

@Randall“…I am thinking about trading some gold for 90% silver today. What do you gentlemen think?”

From my perspective, gold is a wealth preserver. Use it to take your wealth out of harms way and keep that wealth safe.
Silver will become your transactional ‘life preserver’ the medium of exchange in ‘commerce’ such as it will be.

I’ve said to people who ask how they will know when they should sell their precious metals, that they will trade their gold OCCASIONALLY for the assets they will desire in the New World, while they will spend their Silver CONTINUOUSLY for the necessities they will need to LIVE in that New World. In that post-paper future, use your gold where you’d borrow money today and use your silver where you’d use your debit card (or cash) today!!! (Note: If you use a credit card today instead of a debit card, do not worry about this question. Your gold/silver liquidation question will take care of itself and be irrelevant!!!

60:1 What can go wrong? Yet look for purity and watch spot prices.
Seek new garage sales, ask questions, silverware 92.5. Offer double or triple on face value on junk (Constitutional) Silver. Good luck….. Matthew 7:7 ” Keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you.”

Randall The GTSR is about 62 to 1 If you factor in the trading friction of 2-3%, this would be a decent gold to silver trade
I dont know about 90% silver. My preference in trading gold when the ratio was 65 to 1 was into simple .999 silver rounds.
That was the best deal I could find. Unless you have a specific use for 90% AG such as buying something with real money, like in a SHTF scenario, I might hedge my bets by going 1/3 90%, 1/3 .999 rounds and maybe 1/3 ASEs. Set aside some cash in the safe just in case ATMS and banks go on holiday. Some people might require cash if we see an event like Cyprus, an event that is looming in Portugal, Bulgaria and other bank crash zones. And buy some ammo if that is your preference
Cheers and keep stacking. Silver will probably see a greater percentage price rise in the next few months and years.

Remember, 90% and AE’s have premiums so you are not going to get 60-62 to 1 Take any type of silver you can get at this point and that being said, you should have done this a few months ago when you would have got a better deal as I did last year. Keep Stacking

you see, it’s all pretty simple. Gurus are tripping all over themselves screaming that there is a shortage. Naturally, when there is a shortage, price goes down too. So, the less silver is available, the lower the price. No silver = $0. Who in his clear mind would attach a price to something that does not exist.

Gurus need to admit, that whoever has control of the price market is in full control. So, all that gurutalk is nothing buy idiocity and cheap attempt to win popularity contest.

What are the odds given the general statement that there is a strong possibility that this is the last take down before gold shoots higher and finds new nominal highs? 40%? 50%? Or, less? Mr Sinclair doesn’t know the future and he says he doesn’t know the future by saying that there is a “strong possibility”. But, it appears that he sits squarely in the Bo Polny camp on this call. Good luck Mr. Sinclair. You have been wrong so many times in the last 3 years. You need to be right on something so you can call in a little dormant respect thats been waiting in the wings for years for you to be right on at least something. We are waiting.

The “last take down” that Sinclair is referring to was Monday’s take down. But he’s already been proven wrong, because the boat just went over the falls yet again this morning.

Actually, it’s irrelevant. I know why I need to continue stacking, and these non-stop inaccurate predictions are laughable and must all be taken with a grain of salt. Jeez, if we took them all seriously, most of us would have thrown in the towel long ago.

“… and these non-stop inaccurate predictions are laughable and must all be taken with a grain of salt.”

Yes. One the size of a football.

“… if we took them all seriously, most of us would have thrown in the towel long ago.”

If we took these guys seriously, we would now be broke and destitute. We would have sold the house and car, cashed in our retirement plans, begged / borrowed / stolen all we could get our hands on to buy silver at more than $40 an oz, in 2011. How would that have worked out for us? Not very well at all. But, we do recognize the value in stacking PMs so do that regularly in small amounts with money that we can afford to put away for years at a time. THAT is how we will come out ahead and not by listening to those who profess to know the future when they do not.

Anyone wanting to know the future had best talk to God, as He is the ONLY one who really knows. Getting Him to share that info is a whole ‘nother issue, though.

April and May silver hovered around $19 and then in June it jumped to $21 probably because users bought driving up the price. Hedge Funds covered tons of shorts like 25K contracts, 125M ounces. Hedges keep adding to longs and cutting back on shorts, users keep buying. The spikes down look like parasites trying to help users buy their physical summer purchases. As long as users can buy physical silver for $21/ ounce users should be happy campers. Last year users bid the price up to $25 or so. If users can get what they need this year for $25 or less would think users would be happy. Gurus saying we’re going back down to $19 may be designed to help physical users get all they must buy for what silver is trading now, $20+.

I am glad that fancy-lad Sinclair is posting a picture of himself standing up at a podium rather than sitting behind a pile of gold, with his hands folded under his chin. Guy that posted earlier is correct on the article headline-Totally misrepresents what Sinclair is saying. Talk about trolls/shills? How about the guys that write these articles?

“gentiles never learn”
…
So… what are non-gentiles, Jews?
Does this mean Jews do learn?
If they learned, why did so many Jews lose a lot of money by trusting Bernie Madoff who made off with their $millions?
It’s ok, just because you think times were better pre-1991, doesn’t mean you have to be nostalgic about Soviet and Tsarist antisemitism Everything will be ok. Hug a Jew.

@Proverbs1616
First of all, I am not nostalgic about anything. Second of all, the majority of Jews these days are not Semites, so one cannot be anti-Semitic towards non-Semites. By the way Jews do learn, and very well. Lastly, if you believe that Bernie Madoff has stolen money from Jews I have a bridge on Mars to sell you. Jews never steal from Jews. They just know the country is going belly up and as in the past 80-90 tax is coming. They took the money out of the country. You probably know that money doesn’t disappear in the thin air, money just flow from one pocket to another. So, as on one end some fund goes down, some other fund that shorted it (or has some counter party derivative on it) collects on the other end. Don’t you think that’s what happened? Just read this. “Madoff did not plea bargain with the government. Rather, he pleaded guilty to all charges. It has been speculated that Madoff pleaded guilty because he refused to cooperate with the authorities in order to avoid naming any associates and conspirators who were involved with him in the Ponzi scheme.”
As if the “authorities” that know where you transfer your 5 bucks could not figure out where he transferred the money. In addition, he didn’t need to steal anything, he could have made money the Goldman Sachs way on high frequency trading, or at least on interest rates between different currencies. Borrowing Japanese yen, swapping to Swiss franc. Early in 2008 you could have bought 1.17 Swiss Francs with 1 Federal Reserve note. A year later the exchange was the opposite. In this conditions and with his connections, experience and inside knowledge you don’t need to steal money. One more thing. We know his victims wanted “bailouts”, but we don’t really know it they happened.http://business.time.com/2010/12/18/how-close-are-madoff-victims-to-getting-their-money-back/

Madoff was a fool. It wasn’t that he was a crook that got him into trouble because lots of crooks escape justice. It was that he did not SHARE any of his ill-gotten gains with the Obamunists. Had he done that he would be as free to go about his business today as is Jon Corzine. Instead, he rots in jail for the rest of his life, barring release for health reasons, having lost everything rather than a mere 20% or so “contribution”. Also, why did he not have a safe place to escape justice? Even a rabbit is smart enough to have more than one exit from his burrow, just in case trouble comes calling. If he had a compound down in some south American country with no US extradition treaty, he could have flown there in a private jet, bribed a few officials, and be living out his days in absolute splendor. So much for the brilliance of Bernie Madoff.

I’m confused. For the last 3 years Sinclair has been saying long term gold cycles were positive. But today he says they are just now turning positive – “Long term cycles in gold are in the process of turning long term positive. That is fact. There is a strong possibility that this is the last take down before gold trades at new highs. I feel this is the situation.”
So has he been a false cheerleader all this time? Or just a blind one?

I suppose the end game is up to the American people, and when they fold and realize wow silver that is good stuff (I promise it is the shiniest metal!)! I like the illustration that the economy is like an avalanche that is about to fall. I am revising that illustration. The economy is snow or the American people (maybe the whole world) piled up incredibly high on a mountaintop and ready to fall. When will the fall occur? When the government starves enough of us so that we relax our grip on the U.S. dollar. Avalanches are seasonal and the sheep cannot keep the energy to hold on forever – I see the avalanche starting already, some here some over there, and by the end of the year pow…. to the moon Alice! If Sinclair says it long enough it will be true! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_jQ4xWwKvU

Mr Jim Sinclair may have been off and incorrect with his timing and short-term predictions for the price of Gold denominated in fiat currencies, but he has been right in saying that Gold and Silver are what represent real value and real wealth for the long term. He has been right in saying that the fiat US Dollar is headed for complete devaluation, and that the world is gravitating away from the fiat Dollar, not towards it. If, after reading and knowing all there is to know about the present monetary system, people still want to put their trust in fiat Dollars or anything that derives its value from the use of fiat Dollars (or any other world fiat currency in present use), that is their choice (even if in the back of their minds they see plainly what the truth is).

PLEB,
I think you know that I am an old salt here on the Doc. Heard the news so many times as it is that nothing is to be believed, just rehash of days gone by. Blo Pony was favored by Jimmie Joe, guess he dumped him. What I am saying here PLEB, don’t hang on to the bullshit, just watch live London futures for what’ happening now.http://www.investing.com/commodities/real-time-futures

I agree that Precious Metals are an excellent long term investment. I have read that in Indian culture, owning gold is seen as essential and they never trust the banks / government. The Indian govt tried to put taxes / tariffs on gold; all that did was increase the size of the black market. Eventually after people in other countries have been f#$ked over enough times, the gold tradition will be followed by everyone on the planet. The only question is – how much f#$king is required and how long will it take?

Sinclair’s famous gold call to $1650 by Jan 2011 (made in 2008 when gold was $800-900) was laughed at and ridiculed by almost everyone. He missed the call by 6 months but it did get there and went well beyond that to almost $1900. You might want to get your facts straight before blasting him about “accuracy”. And BTW, nobody took him up on the million dollar wager either.

@Tom1000000
Is it a requirement of the status of “Legendary” that the candidate make ONLY correct predictions??? That a wrong call causes the court of public opinion to strip the man of the acknowledgement of a lifetime of achievement and expertise and his ‘title?”

Understand something. The layout of history is not pre-ordained… that is to say that, the future isn’t already a series of events scripted on some TPTB Master calendar somewhere… rather, it’s a fluid and dynamic process, unfolding according to sentiment, events, and the occasional unpredicted black swan. It unfolds day after day, after day. A guy like Sinclair, who presciently called for $1650 gold over a decade ago was laughed out of Dodge at the time… but, in the end, he was proven correct. That was then, and this is now, many of those days later.

Today, our world of stackers and fundamental realists who see the western financial system crumbling in front of us, understand that, in the longer run, physical gold and silver, held outside the banking system, are the only things that will save our tails at some point in the not-too-distant future. Are we wise enough to mark the calendar with the date this happens? Nope. No one is… Why? Because the world financial system is in CHAOS right now… pushed there by people desperately fighting for their very survival, beyond their need to maintain their power base… By definition, CHAOS is UNPREDICTABLE! Not random, but unpredictable…

These cretins don’t set their policy. Instead, they respond to what the market and folks like you and I, and the thousands of others involved in the metals say and do… A guy like Sinclair comes out and encourages us with a bullish call on the metals and we run out and respond in the marketplace… that puts pressure on the manipulators by shifting the demand… they can’t have this… so… what do they do??? They smash the prices down by selling paper into a pricing system which will never be delivered on… the price declines, the pressure is alleviated from the manipulators and, more importantly, we out here in the marketplace get discouraged, lose our ardor for the only thing that will save our butts one day, and go away to pout and lick our wounds…

The ESB / PPT and others exist to survive. They are masters at the game. They have to be. Because, when they eventually fail… and rest assured, they WILL fail one day… when that day comes, they will HANG for their crimes. Believe that they, of all people, have a reason to confound, obfuscate, and despirit and discourage our kind with every fiber of their existence…

Guys, like Sinclair, Turk, Willie, Williams, and too many others to mention, are the soldiers on the other side of the conflict… each, seperately, and collectively, doing their job to offer a resistance to the Dark Side that would, given no opposition, leave us all penniless and destitute.

Think of the pronouncements of guys like Sinclair and others as artillery shells being fired back at the manipulators. Perhaps Sinclair’s message isn’t meant for YOU!!!! Instead, perhaps, it’s meant to return the fire of fear back at those who would destroy the financial system and give them pause for thought. Perhaps, destroying the Western financial system and all of us with it isn’t as easy as it might be, were there not the heavy-hitters like Sinclair and others providing a counterpoint to the propaganda and desired outcome for the bankers, were we not to mount a resistance… Remember, psychology works in BOTH DIRECTIONS!!!

Last fall, Lindsey Williams came out with a pronouncement that a Global Currency Reset would occur in 90 days. It didn’t happen. Everyone blasted and ridiculed Lindsey Williams as a fraud… well… no one stopped to consider another possibility… that Williams was used to forestall such an event. That by his very pronouncement… NOT IN THE MAINSTREAM, the process was forced to be aborted.

Why? Because the announcement of a GCR, which would essentially, in one fell swoop, devalue American’s financial holdings by some BIG number. In order for such an event to be sold to, and rolled out to the American People, it would have to have been made as if it were an emergency response to an urgent and exigent threat and crisis that had arisen THAT NO ONE COULD HAVE FORESEEN. (anybody remember TARP?) Otherwise, given our current trust in our government, perhaps the citizenry might become just a little ‘restive’ yanno? But an EMERGENCY, that no one could have foreseen??? Well, maybe we’d understand and ‘sacrifice’ for our country….

But what would happen, if somewhere, someone looked back into the past and discovered that some, obscure chaplain, who’d been preaching conspiracy theory rhetoric for 20 years, allegedly informed by people in very high positions, had actually come out 90 days earlier and ANNOUNCED, in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that a GCR was GOING TO HAPPEN????

Do you think that this just might have cut the legs out from under any claim that the GCR was in response to a crisis that had JUST COME UP????

Perhaps, Lindsey’s elite friend, Mr. L, used him to fire a preemptive shot across the bow of the IMF and the US Government’s benefactors in the NWO cabal… NO GCR… at least NOT NOW. We know that there are factions in the globalist cabal that don’t necessarily see eye-to-eye on how their plans are unfolding…. well, there’s an example of using a carefully positioned mouthpiece (Williams) in the media melieu to be called upon one day when something important had to be leaked into the awareness of the populace… (This is, I believe, Edward Snowden’s role as well, in the grander scheme of things)

So, the point to all this is that, PERHAPS, even the pundits and the sages are merely the pieces engaged in a dynamic game of geopolitical chess played among the powerful in their quest for world domination… their utility is interactive and real-time… hence the outcome for our future is nowhere near certain… rather, we are writing the determinants for the future each and every day….

Closing thought: TODAY, 5 days ahead of Christine LeGarde’s numerology reveal of this coming Sunday, July 20, 2014, the BRICS consortium has announced their alternative to the IMF and the SDR. We KNEW it was coming… but the TIMING of this announcement is almost PROPHETIC, when you look at what has been unfolding over the past year or so… taken in that light, the BRICS announcement is nothing short of TECTONIC… perhaps Sinclair is right about the last takedown before new highs… something tells me that time is SHORT for the old paradigms…

OH… another quick thought… Another CORRECT call for Jim Willie on this BRICS deal…

” I have read that in Indian culture, owning gold is seen as essential and they never trust the banks / government.”

That is true. The heck of it is that US citizens felt this very same way throughout much of our history until WW-II ended. Many people in the Great Depression absolutely hated the banks and strongly mistrusted the government. But the 55 years between 1945 and 2000 was a time of tremendous prosperity and comfort in this country. US industrial production and productivity were unrivaled on Earth due to the destruction of the Japanese, Russian, and European economies. That began to unravel when those countries were rebuilt, had new and more efficient factories than we had, and started competing effectively with us.

Now that the spending party here in the US is ending, however, those who have seen the truth of our situation and understand its implications know that hard times are coming and the payment that is due for all the partying we have been doing for the past 50+ years WILL be paid. That payment will arrive either as an epic financial / economic crash or as a significantly reduced living standard… and perhaps even some of each of these. Either way, it will not be good and it will take decades to work off this horrendous debt. We The People will NOT be pleased by the future that has been created in our name.

“… so… what do they do??? They smash the prices down by selling paper into a pricing system which will never be delivered on… the price declines, the pressure is alleviated from the manipulators and, more importantly, we out here in the marketplace get discouraged, lose our ardor for the only thing that will save our butts one day, and go away to pout and lick our wounds…”

We do? WTH? All of the stackers I know, run out and buy more at the newly smashed-down price!

@Ed_B“…We do? WTH? All of the stackers I know, run out and buy more at the newly smashed-down price! :-)”
Oh Ed… OPSEC, Man, OPSEC!!! STFU!!!! LOL!!! Shhhhhh! Don’t tell ‘em the truth, Dammit!!! Don’ t you know counter propaganda is vital to our game plan to keep buying at a discount??? Sheesh! Tell ‘em the truth and they’ll quit creating that lovely discount that will allow us the means to inherit the world in the coming apocalypse!!!

Oh… wait… maybe we might wanna reconsider that inheritance… what’s left when it’s over is likely to be one royal mess and more trouble than it’s worth….

LOL… this Stacker bunch, of which you and I can proudly claim membership to is one hell of a vanguard force… but you must admit that the anti-Au/Ag campaign is pretty effective across the US at least… we need SO MANY MORE stackers… (that is, AFTER you and I’ve bought all we can buy at these fire-sale prices!) In the end, we need enough stackers to be strong enough to be able to put (shoot) down the hegelian dialectic synthesis vultures and turkey buzzards that will attempt to swoop down to pick at the bones of ruin of a fallen Empire… including all those fiat fossil remains….

Yeah, there IS that. But then, they KNOW that. They’re just so addicted to price smashing PMs that they don’t know what else to do anymore. It’s become a classic knee-jerk reaction. lol

“Tell ‘em the truth and they’ll quit creating that lovely discount that will allow us the means to inherit the world in the coming apocalypse!!!”

Not to worry, SE. These guys would not know the truth anymore if it jumped up and bit them on the butt… which it will!

“Oh… wait… maybe we might wanna reconsider that inheritance… what’s left when it’s over is likely to be one royal mess and more trouble than it’s worth….”

Yep, it’s gonna suck, big-time, but it’s the only world we will have left by then. Maybe we can rattle the pieces around and make them into something more worthwhile? Hope so.

“… this Stacker bunch, of which you and I can proudly claim membership to is one hell of a vanguard force… but you must admit that the anti-Au/Ag campaign is pretty effective across the US at least… we need SO MANY MORE stackers… (that is, AFTER you and I’ve bought all we can buy at these fire-sale prices!)”

Heh heh… we will lead them to the promised land… AFTER we have ours. If nothing else, the sheeple WILL provide us with our due via bidding the prices for Au & Ag WAY up. The Johnnie-come-latelys usually do.

“In the end, we need enough stackers to be strong enough to be able to put (shoot) down the hegelian dialectic synthesis vultures and turkey buzzards that will attempt to swoop down to pick at the bones of ruin of a fallen Empire… including all those fiat fossil remains….”

Time for those critters to go extinct, IMO. The world truly will be ready to move onward and upward. Their time will have come and gone and they will not be part of the future because there is nothing so good that they can’t or won’t screw it up, given the chance. That’s why none of these people are welcome in Heaven. So, let’s all get a GOOD look at them here and now because there is no hereafter for any of them. How do we know this? Because God is BIG on JUSTICE and not on the “Just Us” of the so-called elites.

Stack with both hand . I got divorce a few months ago and took all 6 figures and bought eagles why because paper is worthless .If I need paper crap I sell a roll it’s that easy JPMORGAN can smash all they want the world is really ugly and the dollar is a joke .Stack your ass off everyone once the physical gets tight the premiums will be the gains

There are those that are good at what they do and very few may have been gifted talent that good can’t buy, but then there are the lucky…
Luck is a combination of determination, perspiration and consternation despite all reason to the contrary. However in the case of precious metals, good and gifted have no place for the owners don’t have your best interests in mind when they are making billions for themselves. Manipulation trumps reason and skill every time so luck and determination are all that stands between you and poverty.
Look on the bright side, we who have and continue to stack may one day enjoy the financial appreciation of our endeavors or at the very least have the makings of a heart wrenching tale of futility to pass on to future generations ;-p

@doc
Can we get rid off this troll @Ranger It should be obvious by know that he is nothing more then nuisance?
So many posters already voiced their opinion. I can’t see many people would feel sorry expect for our other resident trolls.
I am sure he is posting under more then one display name. I have my suspicions who it might be but at least it would moderate him a bit, slowing down annoying crap he is posting.
Enough said.

so, you just prefer to suck each other off and feel good about it? i am sorry that peeps like ranger or myself offend you. the problem is that these feckeng gurus (“legendary”, that is) are constantly wrong and they keep jumping in with their worthless calls every time gold or silver hints a move….

we have the right to troll and to bitch, because we are also heavily invested. i am all for the precious to go up, but i am ready to puke now every time some legendary phuk comes out talking out they collective butts…

The great thing about markets is that they are populated by many many points of view. Personally, I appreciate those who disagree with my points of view more than those who concur with them… For it is from those who see things differently than I do that I can broaden my own perspectives. So, for Ranger and others, thanks for your insights… my views may differ from yours sometimes, but I SINCERELY appreciate the reality checks you all provide… hopefully, I return the favor at times.

Remember that, in a trade in the market, there is a buyer and a seller… and BOTH think they are on the RIGHT SIDE of their trade!

I am not gonna go away because a moron like you pleads with The Doc by calling me a TROLL. If the opinions I give upset you please go back to the SLV message board where your Moron citizenship is always welcomed! You have not been on The Doc long enough to criticize anyone with a brain larger than yours.

I understand everyone have and should have its own view, saying that I have been long enough on this blog to recognize BS.
I am a patient men and and happy to listen to opinions but in case of Ranger I have no doubt this is pure trolling. He is not bringing in anything constructive, just annoying other posters. I am not alone on this one. More and more posters are questioning his real intentions.

@Ranger
Lets check the facts. I called you a Troll over two years ago. Nothing has changed except now, more and more regulars recognize that something is not quite right with you.

@ Sovereign Economist I feel the exact same way, anyone can agree but it takes a person with conviction to disagree on this site, and I can usually find something useful in their reasoning. I am right and wrong and freely admit it when I am wrong but rarely point out when I am right, some here need to quit taking things so personally, imho.

I can get that way, too, but i generally try to take a few minutes to think about what was said before I spout off some useless BS…BUT that is the great thing about the Internet, anyone with an opinion is free to express it!

I have to admit that I do not care for the vast majority of Ranger’s posts, but… when the Doc says “SPEAK YOUR MIND”, he means it. He does not mean “SPEAK ONLY WHAT I APPROVE OF”. So, when Ranger is hurling “BS” bombs all over the place, just keep in mind that he IS speaking his mind!

Also, Ranger is the un-official site curmudgeon. If he wasn’t doing this task, someone else would be pressed into service… and that is a job that neither AG nor I would have on a whiskey bet. Because of all this, it is probably best to let sleeping Rangers lie.

I hear you @Ed_B but how do you know this? What do we know about each other? We can play anybody we want.
We are behind our display name and many have multiple names. All we know, we are targeted by cabal to be fleeced and wasted in the end. In these final days is obvious, Blogs are infiltrated by shills and trolls. Just looking at any article title and the author becoming clear if the flood of trolls are coming or not.
Some time ago Zman was denied; he wasn’t even half as destructive as @Ranger is. What is the difference then?

“… but how do you know this? What do we know about each other? We can play anybody we want.”

We can but inconsistency will creep in when one is playing a part vs. just being ourselves. Quite a few of us here are definitely of the “what you see is what you get” type. Are their liars among us? Surely. But, even the best of liars WILL trip over their own lies after a while. Good observation and memory over time is the best way to ferret them out.

“We are behind our display name and many have multiple names.”

Those of us who are not interested in juvenile game-playing only have ONE name and use that everywhere we go. Yes, it very well might be a fictitious name, used as cover from prying eyes, but it is who we are and not a role we are playing. We are the ones who are here to learn new things, share info, and combine our experiences into a more complete picture of where we are, what is happening, and where we might be headed.

“Blogs are infiltrated by shills and trolls.”

Indeed. They are the parasites, bacteria, and viruses of the Internet. Much as we might wish that they would all just ESFO&D, I am afraid that they are here to stay. They are too stupid to find useful things to do and peeing on the parades of others is about all they can come up with that justifies their existence.

“Some time ago Zman was denied; he wasn’t even half as destructive as @Ranger is. What is the difference then?”

That was not my doing and no one asked my opinion as to what, if anything, should be done, so I cannot speak to it. I can say that barring something pretty egregious, I would not have done that. But then, this is not my web site and those who own it can run it any way they want. Hopefully, that will be in a calm, collected, and adult manner. I do know that a LOT of comments made here are grounds for immediate loss of use of any number of other web sites out there, yet they are allowed here. Yes, to avoid anarchy, a few rules are in place… but they seem to be minimal and geared more towards providing a good place for the exchange of info on PMs, national and world events, the banking system, and any number of other related topics. As I said in a previous post, I do not care for most of Ranger’s posts as they tend not to add anything to the discussion. Those running this site might well consider asking him to tone down all the “THAT’S BS!” comments. Yes, we KNOW that and don’t need to have it pointed out constantly.

A lot of newcomers are visiting SD. Most are in the process of learning the real world we are in right now.
Posts from “Ranger” don’t help our cause. We are aiming to reach the critical mass of awakening.
Ranger doesn’t pass smell test for me. I have been watching his patterns from the day one. It doesn’t adds up.
As far as I am concerned, I don’t care what others are posting. I skip certain posters anyway.

“A lot of newcomers are visiting SD. Most are in the process of learning the real world we are in right now. Posts from “Ranger” don’t help our cause.”

Agreed. But then, a lot of us have managed to figure this out without being spoon-fed. I am sure that most of the noobs here are just as able to do so as we were. Nothing says that we have to let any negative comments stand without opposition.

“We are aiming to reach the critical mass of awakening.”

That would be good but given the low numbers of we who stack, this doesn’t seem to be happening all that quickly. Perhaps we need some “events” that shake the sheeple up a little, get them out of their comfort zone, and awaken them from their slumber? The number of positive PM comments on this site WAY out-weight the numbers of negative comments. All of these comments are OPINIONS, anyway, so each of us has to form them on our own and we have a vast resource in the Internet that helps us do this. One of the 1st things we all learn is that no one info source can be trusted to give us the truth or all of the truth. We need to survey a lot of info, sift it, and discard a lot of it before we get to those real nuggets that are well worth having and keeping. Consider Ranger’s comments as just some more mud that needs to be washed out of the pan as we search for those bits of color that are valuable.

“As far as I am concerned, I don’t care what others are posting. I skip certain posters anyway.”

Indeed. I am sure that most of us do that as a matter of course. I enjoy reading the comments of others as long as they are concise and to the point. They can be positive or negative, as either will provide some grist for the mental mill. But they do have to include some content that is worth the time to read. Most do. Some don’t. The ones that don’t should be skipped / ignored, IMO. For those who engage in trolling, the worst thing that can happen to them is to be totally ignored, hence the line sometimes seen on the web, “Don’t Feed the Trolls!“. In most cases, they soon lose interest and go away on their own, looking for more fertile ground for their childish antics. They are not missed.

@Ranger: I would like to see the background research you did to VERIFY the “facts” as stated in this article. If you didn’t do any research, please so state, so readers understand you merely provided this article for informational purposes only without any truths substantiated. Thank you!

I cover a lot of alternative news data daily and some I research, but never pay much if any attention to the Corporate owned liberal media in the U. S. Global Research is one that I have little question to doubt and is supported by donations and as well I never doubt articles on Dr. Paul Craig Roberts either. Summing up my stance here on The Silver Doctors and called names by some posters, well I have heard mostly (about 99%) everything that is posted on The Doc for a very long time and nothing changes, if so it’s at a snails pace. The only truth is in The London Futures which I monitor 18 hours a day and all geo political events that unfold. Alternative media is the place to go for all truth if you exercise thoughts and go to the right places. I once supported Israel until more truth has come out about their Hubris and Hegemony that follows close in lock step to the U.S. world domination policies. As for my posts here I poke fun at the mostly what I call “Homogenized Horseshit”, because mainly that is what it is in most cases. The Newbies here have not caught on to the charade as yet, but will in time as the turnover in readers here has increased since I have been on here going on three years. I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer Silverrrrr, but am no dummy either. I am a highly educated individual and recognize a ruse when I see one.
All you need to do my friend is monitor The live London Futures Market which tells all and bridge with that the geopolitical events constantly unfolding. I do not give pompous dissertations as does AGXIIK or others.
Here again is the link to live London Futures. My belief is that you will gain more knowledge comparing the data from this source and comparing what is displayed here or by the all the famous Gurus. Just remember, The Bullion Banks and Central Banks, have far more power than is stated here. http://www.investing.com/commodities/real-time-futures

@Ranger
Not a bad post… I too am a great supporter of Global Research and Dr. Roberts, and its been a couple years since I’ve watched more than 5 minutes at a time of any of the alphabet soup statist propaganda outlets. I think it was the last time I threw up, thinking it was food poisoning… . I agree with much of your logic and assessment herein… and I will avoid speaking of Israel in order to keep my blood pressure within HazMat guidelines for non-explosive containment limits.
Probably my only counterpoint to your input is to suggest that the “Truth” found in the London Futures Market does not originate there… rather, by serving as a trading venue, it merely reflects the will and intent of the financial powers that be as they conduct their operations there. Remember that, to these financial powers that be, the London Futures, like Comex and other exchanges are simply the instrumentalities for the implementation for their agendas and intentions. That said, these venues are an undeniably empirical manifestation of those intentions ongoingly, as they originate from the powers in their Ivory towers… wherever THOSE may be. This leads me to wonder sometimes whether what we see in these venues is the Truth, the WHOLE Truth, and Nothing But the Truth!

I know AG well and he is anything but pompous. I find his writings informative, interesting, and often humorous. If you do not, that’s fine. He is as free to state his opinion as anyone else on here, including YOU. IMHO, this site would be much the poorer should he decide to leave and not return. There are any number of others on here about whom I cannot say that.

@HenaSooie,Never heard of you! You have been one very quiet and absent poster. You got me though. I do post under AGXIIK, MARCHAS45, PAT FIELDS, ED_B, MARY_B, MAMMOTH, SILVERTONGUEDEVIL and so many others!

You forgot me, everyone thinks I am a troll, too! Just because I point out the ridiculousness of Sinclair, Sprott, Embry, KWN, Willie, etc. and point out that this site has turned into a big circle jerk of posters rubbing each other off and getting pissy with anyone who has different views and tries to point out why they are different versus name calling.

Let me know when the CME gives the silver fix back, until then the new boss is the same as the old boss…paper ruling phyzz.

I would be careful using @Mary_B’s name in vain, she has a pretty mean looking sniper rig!

@Ranger
I gather this weird reply is at me. I expected this. I witnessed this before towards others, especially newcomers. I think you should get the message by now. As I said before I have been reading this blog long enough, possibly longer then you. I red too many angry posters due to your monosyllabic posts trying to discredit others. If you have view or opinion say it but take your time, no more crap.

I said this many times before, my position about you doesn’t change. Your posts are undeniable proof. I am not alone on this. Names you mentioned above to support your cause is plain silly. At least a dozen more appropriate names you could use.

By the way, now, I predict a few reasonable informative posts from you before you go back to your usual. This happens every time. You are very predictable.

“I would be careful using @Mary_B’s name in vain, she has a pretty mean looking sniper rig!”

That she does… and, she KNOWS how to use it too! If she chooses to do so, there is little doubt that “AGXIIK, MARCHAS45, PAT FIELDS, ED_B, MARY_B, MAMMOTH, SILVERTONGUEDEVIL and so many others”, will be cheering her on.

“Manipulation such as the sale of $1.3 billion dollars worth of paper gold at an illiquid time period today is not to protect the dollar or bull the general equity market. It is to make money for the manipulators…”

Agreed. But it is the fact that these activities DO support the USD that ensures that the US Gov has no interest into even looking into these manipulation schemes. Years of intense neglect by the CFTC have not occurred via accident, just as having almost all of these people appointed to these positions from the very commodity trading organizations that they supposedly regulate and to which they return after their time of government “service” ends is in no way connected to their decisions as regulators. Yeah. Right.

Re: Cyprus

“All the promises they had been told about government guarantees and having a ‘well-regulated’, sound banking system turned out to be lies.”

Yes, they have been exposed as lies and damned lies. So? Is anyone here surprised? But my question is, “Did this same government survive, or has it been tossed out on its ear, as it so richly deserves?”. I haven’t heard much about this but one would think that stealing people’s money would not ingratiate this government to those same people. Those who recently sold a business, a home, or received their retirement funds and used their local bank as a temporary holding place while they decided what to do with the money are the ones who really got screwed by this. YEARS of work and saving… POOF! gone. This is the sort of thing that foments armed revolution.

“Eventually the plan materialized: substantial portions of deposits over 100,000 euros would be confiscated in exchange for equity in the banks.”

Which is JUST what people want done with their hard-earned money: given to a poorly run bank so they can continue to f*** up and lose it too! Just brilliant! I wonder what brain-dead-cretin-POS is retained in the EU to come up with this stuff?

“It turns out that banks in Cyprus are still pitifully capitalized.”

Well, I am just stunned by this revelation… as in NOT… for it is not a lack of liquidity that causes these problems but an excess of stupidity. And stupidity, unlike ignorance, is not curable… once an idiot, always an idiot. But the people in Cyprus are not idiots. They seem to be avoiding putting their money into the financial black hole of the local banks, hence the low capitalization. Who wouldn’t do this? Only those who do not care if their money is stolen… and they seem to be VERY few in number.

25 silver by August? LoL! Keep your day job harvesting clicks for cash. Ain’t no one gonna get rich in bullion for some time. I am looking for the Democrats to keep the Senate. Nothing is going to change till 2016.

Gee, just saw the thread above. Nice. Right click, print as pdf, save at “your folder”, walla. Look, the Elite can’t afford Senate hearings with Mssrs. McConnell, Graham, Hatch blowing holes into our homosexual President and his Tranny live in lover. (not legally married unless married in D.C. incognito). So, the Senate stays pat. Yellen is all we knew she would be, the Great Continuator.

Yea, I had four ASE monster boxes and two gold ASE tubes back in 2010-11, but got out in March 2012 and went all in with equities. A great wise man told me in federal prison, “If you can shit in one hand and wish in the other. Which will get filled first?”. Or was it, “don’t let what happens outside the wall affect you inside the wall”, there were so many wise men to choose from. Anyway, if you lost 5% of your investment, and did nothing, then this wise man says, “if you believe everything you read, then do not read”.

And the great dragon/great deception was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, { seed of a serpent } and his angels { being false messages/lies } were cast out with him. Rev 12:9

Speaking of “trolls” as something that brings discord { serpent } whereby a dividing takes place, or a separation of ONE, whereby what was a consensus now becomes two opposing sides, good/truth ~ Spirit and the other evil/lie ~ soul, but as our Spirit and soul are not separate but only perceived to be, a confusion of face emerges where our reasoning is a blend of truth/good and lie/evil which is a duality, and likened to mixing hot and cold we become warm { an abomination }

The serpent in the garden which deceived the Woman, is likened to our first thought gathered from out side of self, being deceptive or pictured in another form, Adam/masculine/Spirit the serpent/body and Eve/feminine/soul, the serpent being our flesh which separates/divides our understanding of self by the image we perceive without gathered by our five senses and then our soul becomes subject to our flesh by an image of truth we hold to, this image being a deception/lie we live in, as not being the truth, but a false perception of truth/self, this being a gendering to gain as we by thought add and subtract from the Word of GOD who we are …… which births pride and vanity ………

This in picture is the Woman/soul taken from the side of Man/Spirit this being a gendering/dividing , understanding we are Spirit and have bean given a soul as a help meet/servant { which makes us unique }, our flesh or five senses/ five husbands then rule over our soul, and she is then likening to a harlot, her true husband/Spirit now not her own, but in reality our Spirit and soul are ONE,

Understanding this proses being the order of things { being it the cost/price to build GODS house ,who we are } and is to teach us what our soul is in relation to our Spirit and the truth of who we are as GODS Son, we being no more separate from each other than we are from GOD, understanding GOD lives in us, as us

This proses I explain {in part } is being played out both collectively and individually, being it a proses of a scattering/dividing/gendering , a point in time { cross } where our own reasoning suffers a death this being its expected end, and a re-gathering by turning back { repentance } to Truth/GOD where we came out from, before time began.

Religion being a system of belief where one holds to ones own, or another’s perception of a truth , which quickly becomes an image/idol and thus a snake in their path to all Truth, this all Truth being GOD Who is without measure, seeing GOD has no beginning or end and therefore can not be contained or defined by man .

What I write are merely crumbs of truth which have fallen from His table ………………………..

true that Ed_B relying on the government for help is like relying on a hooker for love.
At least with the hooker, you can pay her to leave.
I think that was Charlie Sheen’s favorite line.
If you pay the government they’ll will never leave. It encourages bad behaviour

Pols can be paid to leave too. Remember that law that was passed several years ago that allowed pols to KEEP their campaign contributions once they retired? Now, THAT was money well spent, IMO. That alone probably saved us a few trillion via culling “the old guard” herd.

As to hookers, I prefer another saying: “A politician’s promise has all the sincerity of a whore’s kiss“.

Sovereign Economist Once there were few of us stackers. In the future there will be many. THose who do not stack will not longer be amoungst us
I recall the stories of the American and English Expeditionary forces that were the first to the battlefield in WWI. They volunteered to enter the fray. No one told them to go. They weren’t drafted or conscripted. They went because they saw the cause as just.

We are the Silver Expeditionary Force (SEF) No one forced us to enlist. No one offered us a pay check to enter the battle. We’ve taken some lumps and losses.
Some have fought in the battle for 20 years and some are recent ‘boots’
The SEF is the vanguard and silver is the color of the flag. We raised it in defiance of the Elites, Oligarchs, New World Order and others who declared war on We the People 100 years ago
As you said, you are optimistic.
So am I because the natural goodness of this army coupled with its ferocious nature, taking no quarter nor asking for any, will win. The forces of darkness can no more hold us in their thrall than a liar can keep his story straight in the long run.
Bullcrap fails. Goodness prevails.

Yes, I can see that flag waving victorious… a human hand, clenched into a fist, with the center finger raised proudly. This is surrounded by a ring of 50 blue stars, all on a field of silver. Run it up the pole, boys, and let’s see who salutes!

Regardless of whatever it was Sinclair said, this is a weird comment-thread.
I can’t help but notice that when PM’s are being smashed, many of the commenters here resort to throwing rocks at one another.
Therefore, I expect to see plenty of hugging and singing of ‘kumbaya’ then next time PM.s go up.

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