always thought mike was cheated but arnold has him on the chest/back/arms/width...mike just has the conditioning

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arnopld was lucky

he talk a bit about this contest in totall recall his last book . he said you idiot you gonna lose this . i think the way contests were judged back then helped him win . his size was there but lack of symmetry and more . paul graham should know abou this contest . was he ever interviewed on this .

More annoying BS is the reports that Zane was so disgusted at the results that he smashed his trophy in the parking lot after the show. First off if Zane really did that then he is delusional, the fact is Zane looked like Garbage and was given a giant gift from the judges.

Seriously how the hell did Zane get third?

And look at Arnolds "weak" legs. They're twice as big as Zanes!

Lol... AND Arnolds legs are nothing special. How the hell Zane is even someone that we have heard of is ****ing mind boggling. He had a good physique. 1000's of people do... Zane as Mr.Olympia is a joke.

he talk a bit about this contest in totall recall his last book . he said you idiot you gonna lose this . i think the way contests were judged back then helped him win . his size was there but lack of symmetry and more . paul graham should know abou this contest . was he ever interviewed on this .

contests have been judged through this process:

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With this it becomes clear Arnold won the show. Not with this method of judging:

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Lol... AND Arnolds legs are nothing special. How the hell Zane is even someone that we have heard of is ****ing mind boggling. He had a good physique. 1000's of people do... Zane as Mr.Olympia is a joke.

If you can't see how Zane won Mr.O (3 times) maybe you should reassess your view of what bodybuilding was about during his reign?

arnold at 80% is still good enough to win, I really don't know how the controversy started... the pictures and videos clearly show arnold as superior

the 1981 olympia on the other hand...

in b4 not this **** again/pages of flaming

agreed

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I dont think people are as mad about the actual package Arnold brought as much as just being pissed when they got wind the contest was fixed, no matter how Arnold came in that night. Thats why CBS pulled the plug when they found out the fix was in, and that just set everyone off, knowing no matter what they stood no chance. But ofcourse judging from the pictures and the video Arnold still should of won. Was he at his best? ofcourse not, but he still dwarfed everyone on stage.

Hold on all this talk about Zane looking like ****, the man almost bled to death, but came back eight weeks before the Mr. Olympia, and was in phenomenal shape, ready and poised to be in the best shape of my life, but after almost bleeding to death and being in the hospital for a week and a half, he lost almost fifteen pounds, so lets not forget that dudes.

Chris Dickerson (2nd) looked great that night and could of very easliy won the whole damn show, great shape and lines, as did Boyer Coe (4th).

Who knows. CbS didn't come into the show without a storyline. Arnolds appearance probably ruined their story line and all the footage they made because now that the OAK was there their story was ruined by default because Arnold was the bigger story. How the hell do you compete with a movie star and greatest bb ever coming back one more time.

I have Mentzer dead last in that line-up. I don't think he is impressive in any way that a bodybuilder can be impressive. He doesn't carry overwhelming mass, his condition isn't spectacular and his proportions are far from perfect. I think it's insane when people say he deserved to win.

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I love those shots of him by the water. His chest is insanely shredded.

Bench: 215x12 (17/12/2011) PR since torn RC

"Being the best in your circle is not enough; you have to think bigger to become a champion. Don’t think like a small fish in a big pond or else when you get to the ocean you’ll be eaten alive." - Fouad Abiad