I love how busy our board is. Faith, I am CD7 today. Had BD this morning at 4:30 am, no more until much later after O. DH is out of town now. I really feared we might not be able to do it that early morning as DH is too 'sensitive' and cannot DTD under pressure. Gladly it worked out. Now I am praying for my miracle.

I hear you on costs of TTC. We ended up paying so much just for initial fertility testing. Insurance company may or may not refund everything. I do have some savings which now I am earmarking as 'babymaking fund'. Who knows how much we will need.

B, thats exactly what I keep thinking and telling my DH - wish we had never tried to conceive, perhaps things will be easier then. I so wanna go back to being the person I used be until few months ago. Word baby did not exist in my life, now thats all I can think. Hope your LO feels better soon.

I like your suggestion. I could call RE's office and ask for an appointment in Dec-Jan. That should be possible.

Mari, good luck with the scan.

AFM, CD7. I am feeling kind of weird for pre-O phase. My energy has been low for the last 2 days (maybe thyroid??), nipples are also bit sensitive and on and off I feel something like electric shock. Not sure whats up!

TTC#1 since Feb 2016Me: Rosey, 32, no known issues except early hypothyroidismDH: 32, 4 SAs. Different results each time

Faith--I hope you find a job that fits you and your circumstances soon! My husband was on the job hunt for nearly 8 months (between Sept and May) and it can be so stressful!

Bmichaelson --the ultrasound is just a start. I have a fair bit of pain from my right ovary all the time, so she wanted me to get it checked. I've had a referral to a genetics and perinatal specialist. I've had 6 MC all together. Two between my girls and 4 in 2015. It's devastating to say the least. I don't test any more because I'm afraid I'll actually see a second line.

I'm currently at CD 19 and feeling like the wait will never end. I was looking at my fertility friend calendar and realized AF is supposed to show the first day as our end of summer camping trip. Not too excited about that I can tell you!

Hahaha. Mari that cracked me up lol. The double post.I'm sorry to hear about all your losses. It's definitely not easy.Ok AF on your vacation is not fair. Especially not fun if you are camping though. Boo!

Ok so I don't know why, maybe because I was excited, but I told a good friend we are waiting to find out what happens this month. She didn't really seem to have much of a response at all. I then immediately regretted saying anything. I also remembered her wedding is coming up next year and I'm supposed to be in it which means I can't ttc next month or I would be due 2 weeks from her wedding and wouldn't have enough time to recover before hand. Even if it happened this month if would be cutting it close. We did talk about that a bit. I'm thinking maybe that's why she wasn't really happy looking at first. She did say she doesn't care if I'm pregnant or huge for the wedding but I'm not sure if she's being totally honest.

I obviously don't want to mess up her wedding but I'm frustrated too because every time we ttc we end up having to break for something at least once and I feel the clock ticking. I hope these next couple months just fly by.

She also mentioned we would have to stand for 40 minutes to an hour for the ceremony and I don't know if I can even do that now with my SI issues let alone at 8 months pregnant.

Anyways, just ranting. I don't think there is much else to do but delay ttc for at least a month after AF.

mari: FX for a good scan. Does your ovary hurt around ovulation time more

bmichaelson: SAME BOAT!! My sister is getting married next fall though. I promised her if I wouldn't be 9 months pregnant as her maid of honor..heheh..If it took us a while to ttc. But she doesn't care at all. Its her day. She is cool like that. I'm sorry your friend made an issue of it. But ttc is hard. I can't say that I would wait so that I don't look bad at her wedding. 40 minutes???? Girl, what in the world. My DH and I don't play. We wanted our guest to not suffer long ceremonies or lines to eat. Our wedding was less than 5 hours I believe...gosh, yeah like four. FX you come to a good decision for both of you.

We were the same. Make it quick and easy haha. But his family is Greek so it's an orthodox wedding.

I think she was more concerned if I had a baby beforehand since it would only give me 2-6 weeks to recover and last time it was 3 months before I could even sit or get into a car. This time I will be having a cs though so the recovery should actually be faster, as backwards as that sounds lol.

To be honest I was almost hoping I would be in the audience, but she was my MOH and we are good friends so I don't want to bail on her.

I figure it probably won't happen in 1-2 months anyways but it's hard to know we are letting a good egg go to waste lol.

Yes, I know what you mean about letting a good egg go to waste. I feel the same way. And WOW,it took you 3 months to recover? Did you lose alot or blood or tons of stitches? I would think a CS would take longer to recover from. I'm sure I was good to go within a month. Perineum spasms were the worst for me that lead into the rectum from tearing. I do not miss that at all.

Well, as for me, some thing has to give. I'm getting up at 330am every morning instead of my usual 5am. And its made worse when my sick kiddo wakes me up at 230..lol I'm a light sleeper who can't go back to sleep until like 10 or 11am. Can you imagine my head hitting my keyboard if I were working..heheh

Oh no it took 3 months for my stitches to just fuse. Recovery was much longer.

My DS was face up and I pushed for 3 hours and apparently wrecked my pelvic floor muscles. They had to do an episiotomy with forceps to get him out and I kid you not the dr had her feet on the bed and was pulling so hard on the she was almost laying flat.

I had a really hard time walking after and my stitches wouldn't stop pulling apart. My OB sent me to a physiotherapist because it was so painful even after 6 months. The physiotherapist got suspicious and referred me to a geneticist who confirmed I have a collagen disorder. So basically my collagen is screwed up and I don't heal well from injury or surgery.

I had to endure some nasty procedures and then was told surgery was my only option (basically recut me and fix my scar). I delayed it once but and then they bumped it and I'm actually scheduled for Sept 28 but I'm going to cancel it. I found another physiotherapist who thinks she can help me without the surgery. Knowing I don't heal well and knowing how rough those 3 months were I am a bit terrified to be cut again. It took us over a year before we could even BD at all and up until this month we had only ever done it a few times.

So it makes sense my friend would be nervous about my recovery lol. I was told I shouldn't ever try for another vaginal delivery or I would go through this again. I know a few people with EDS that have had CS and said their recovery was fine and not longer than 6 weeks they usually say it takes so I am hopeful.

Faith I know what you mean. I'm not a light sleeper but once my kid wakes up its hard to get him back down and I'm up for a few hours at least. I got used to going to functioning on 1-3 hours of sleep. Thankfully those nights are not as common anymore although he often wakes up around 2 or 3 am and stays up till 5 then sadly we have to wake him back up by 6:30 to get ready for daycare/work.

Last night I couldn't get him to sleep at all and by 9 I asked DH to trade with me. I woke up this morning and he never came to bed so he either just fell asleep in there or it was a rough night lol. I do see some things out of place in the kitchen so I have a feeling they got up for a while at some point.

HUGS I did not know it was that serious. And I too understand now why you friend probably gave you the 'please no look'So are you super limber too? I am apart of and EDS/Chiari group on fb. There is alot of support there.

Are you planning on a CS with your next pregnancy?

I'm editing this to add my lower back it killing me like suddenly my butt is too heavy

Hope everyone is doing ok and if I don' t get a chance to post tomorrow (the fam will be at a work function for my husband) I'll catch up this weekend. Hugs

Ya I have a couple fb groups I'm on too. I'm probably a bit more stretchy than most people but not to the extent that some EDSers are. It really must be tough for people with extreme cases. I see a lot of posts with people who can't even walk due to pain. Luckily for me it's mostly my SI joints. I likely would never have known if not for my labour issues since it stretched them too much and they haven't gone back, although it does explain some other issues I've had growing up and still have.

As much as I wish I could have a normal vaginal delivery I know I can't. Besides a CS sounds like a piece of cake now. I will be soooo happy that I will at least be able to sit or pee or get in and out of a car or nurse my baby properly. And all those things we take for granted every day. It really opened my eyes to how damn frustrating it must be to have a chronic illness or be bed ridden for much longer periods of time. So far I think it has been the hardest thing I've ever gone through and it's very lonely. I couldn't understand why everyone else from my birth group was up and moving and getting out of the house and 3 months pp I was still struggling so much and stuck in my house and my bed. It's not easy to find people with the same problem.

Alright, I went and bought 2 FRER and 2 no name whatever they are cheapy brands to keep on hand but I plan to use them sparingly and hold off as long as I can. Still too early to test so no point in wasting them yet. I figured if I get really desperate I can use a cheapy, but I'll use an FRER next week.

It is too early for testing but I've been so bored I started peeing on my super cheap online sticks at like 5dpo . They suck majorly according to the reviews. So, even if I do get pregnant, I wont know because they are horrible..hahah. You will have to let us know what happens if you test. I'm curious about the FRER. Some have good results and others not so much. In the past I never got a false positive on them.

I go to the doc on Monday which is 10dpo for me and usually when I get my first positive. I'm going because feels like my uterus has prolapsed into my vaginal canal. My sister says it doesn't sound too bad as hers is pretty extreme.

So true how not normal it is to be able to be up and moving around. I was that way during my pregnancy. I was on bedrest during my pregnancy from 22wks till delivery. My cervix wouldn't stay closed. They put a Mcdonald cerclage in and it was like having thread in your hoo-haa to me. Did not feel good when ever I'd have to make it out to my appts. And when it was time to deliver they had stitched me up so well they had to cut through scar tissue as I started dilating..lol And I thought I was going to go natural. By 7 centimeters I was ringing that bell for an epidural. I had already endured a few shots to the perineum to numb me so they could cut through scar tissue AND break my water because I guess they were worried about baby being stressed out. She had been head down all that time. She had a huge hematoma that covered her entire forehead. It was purple maroon and her eyes were bloodshot cherry red no whites to them. Poor kiddo. It took months for it to drain and she was jaundice for quite a bit. OMG thinking back I remember having to ride in a scooter at walmart because I was so heavy/pain from cerclage so much...lol

I'm up at 3am as usual. Hoping to get in a nap before we all take off to another city for a day of fun with my husbands work. I'm going to need to strap a water bottle to me too..so thirsty.

Wow Faith and Bmichaelson! Those sound like super traumatic birth stories! I hope things go better for you both the next time around. My youngest was breech and I had to have and external version and be induced after being on modified bed rest since 22 weeks because I kept contracting so bad. I hemmorhaged with my third after delivery and it took me several weeks to have any energy to be up and around and taking care of my other kids.

I wanted to go natural with my last one, but after having him turned and being in labor for 10 hours and only progressing from a three to a six I gave up and got an epidural. Turns out he had settled face up after being turned. I was glad to have the epidural when the doctor reached up there and turned him so I could deliver!

Ladies this pregnancy and delivery stuff is no joke lol. I had no idea how much it mucks up the body. All worth it of course, but seriously!

Faith,, Mari that sounds nuts! I would have gone insane on that much bed rest. I was so frustrated having to rely on someone else to do things for me.I can't believe you ladies made it that far without an epi. When my water broke I had about 15 mins before I was in full on contractions and the hospital was 35 mins away so my husband was speeding down the highway like a madman while I cried in the car lol. I lasted all of 2 hours because my contractions weren't actually resting at all and I hadn't dilated more than the 4 cm I was at my OB appt the week before. Took 18 hours to fully dilate before I could push because I got stuck at just under 10 cm.

I have a new respect for child birth and motherhood. Women are superheroes lol.

Ok so it's 7dpo, and I had to get up early so DH can get to a meeting and I can get to physio in time. DS woke up at 5 and now DH is thinking of copping out and I'm annoyed lol. I've debated testing this morning but I'm not sure if I will yet.

I was excited to see the store had the old FRERs and not the new ones. I pretty much never use anything other than FRER or Wondfo, but if I order wondfos I'll go through them like a nut. I've never had any issues with the old FRERs but the new ones seem to give a lot of indents from what I've seen.

Finally heard back from my doc's office about the ultrasound. I've got pelvic congestion syndrome which are basically varicose veins in your pelvis and in my case near my ovaries that cause chronic pain. The good news is it has no effect on fertility.