The church where he was shot, the Reformation Lutheran Church in Wichita,, is ELCA, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.

This is the totally liberal synod among Lutheran synods.

It promotes the homosexual agenda in every aspect. It supports most forms of abortion. It is the antithesis of the conserverative LCMS, the Missouri Synod of which I'm thankfully a born and baptized member.

I have no doubt he was attending church for show. He picked this liberal church to attend because he knew it wouldn't throw him on his rear because of his evil practice.

Police said they are looking for white male who was driving a 1990s powder blue Ford Taurus with Kansas license plate 225 BAB. The vehicle is registered to an owner in Merriam, which is in the Kansas City area.

The tragedy is that a man with the capability to help society with his talents instead chose to use those talents and abilities to harm those who could not defend themselves. Therein lies the tragedy. It is not in his death but in the choices he made in life.

His life’s work could have been making the sick well and making life better for others.

However, I find it very suspicious that one week after polling data shows Americans are more pro-life than ever before, this murder occurs.

And, don't forget this act will give validity in the eyes of the media and Democrats for the recent Justice Department proclamation that pro-life groups and individuals are potential terrorists. What laws will be proposed now to eliminate the freedom of pro-lifers now that this act has occurred?

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posted on 05/31/2009 11:26:06 AM PDT
by Ol' Sparky
(Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)

Okay, from your view:
1. Unborn baby in womb = any human born
2. Abortion = murder
Let me ask you this now:
If you knew someone was going to the local park to murder masses of people, and there was no law against terminating the lives of people in the park, wouldn’t you still try to prevent it from happening? Even if it meant killing the person who is/was trying to kill innocent people in the park?
If so, why wouldn’t you stop an abortionist (which you already absolutely know kills “innocent babies”) at all costs?

Damn. This will only make a martyr of Tiller and allow the media to portray pro-lifers as crazy and dangerous.

If the perpetrator of this crime is pro-life and that's what motivated him to kill Tiller, then it's self-evident that some pro-lifers are, in fact, crazy and dangerous. The media doesn't have to lift a finger to make that point.

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posted on 05/31/2009 11:26:44 AM PDT
by Wolfstar
(In politics, you never, ever, EVER win by deliberately losing in order to send a "message.")

Reformation Lutheran Church in Wichita,, is ELCA, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.

Yes, an extremely liberal ELCA church. People should not think that all Lutheran churches would have an active, impenitent abortionist as a member in good standing. This Lutheran pastor (LCMS) would not.

One of the hidden secrets of the pro-abortion movement is that even the most ardent supporters of abortion don’t really like abortionists that much.

They might be lavished with public praise when expedient and necessary, but privately they’re often regarded as vulgar hirelings. This is especially true within the medical profession, where abortionists are considered the lowest of the low, even by pro-abortion physicians, drawn from the ranks of the incompetent and the unstable.

Kathleen Sebelius and Barack Obama might have been happy to take George Tiller’s money and indulge him in some public flattery, but they probably didn’t respect the man at all.

Wichita television station KAKE-TV reported that police were looking for a blue Ford Taurus with a K-State vanity plate, license number 225 BAB. Police described him as a white male in his 50s or 60s, 6 feet 1 inch tall, 220 pounds, wearing a white shirt and dark pants.

Obviously this person didn’t care about being caught, unless the car was stolen.

During the Sebelius Senate Hearing process, Kathleen Sebelius claimed she had only received about $14,000 in donations.

Senator Kyl brought up about another $38,000 in donations, and then Operation Rescue brought to light another $200,000 in donations...

It raised a big enough stink about these donations that some Republicans who might have voted to confirm Sebelius voted against her, and the Reid hurried up a vote on Sebelius because opposition was "rapidly growing"...

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posted on 05/31/2009 11:30:47 AM PDT
by topher
(Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)

"When all was said and done, the father was NOT charged with murder, but with justifiable homicide. I see a similarity here."

I'm not above thinking that his death could have been at the hands of a paid assassin of the left to further their agenda. It's also possible that the shooter could have been the mother, father, grandparent of one of those late-term babies butchered by Tiller. Then again, it could have simply been an insane individual who shot him.

I'm surprised nothing is known about the assailant, not even any info on where the shot(s) were fired from. If the shooter was street level with Tiller, certainly someone would have seen them. Sounds more like a sniper from an elevated position. They may never find them.

587
posted on 05/31/2009 11:31:34 AM PDT
by mass55th
(Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)

“I thought the Bible was explicit when it says there is no greater love than of a man who lays down his life for another, well this guy appears to have done exactly that. “

Thanks for saying that and articulating the dilemma faced by pro-lifers. Pro-life groups DO NOT plan violence against anyone, and the most activist that they get is laying down in prayer, blocking the door to a clinic (which even they recognize is a largely futile effort and are willing to go to jaiil for it).

On rare (very rare, statistically near zero over the time since Roe v. Wade) some takes the law into his own hands and gives up their life and freedom to stop what they see as a holocaust.

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posted on 05/31/2009 11:32:01 AM PDT
by Never on my watch
(The people in charge now could not run a lemonade stand on a beach in Miami in the middle of July.)

Well, two things. A local attorney general was after him for concealing statutory rape by aborting minors without reporting on it, and other offenses. Tiller gave large sums to this AG’s Dem opponent, and threw him out of office. The Dem was subsequently accused of corruption and resigned.

He also gave hundreds of thousands to Sebelius, some of it under the table, and that helped him avoid convictions in this and other cases brought against him.

He was clearly in violation of Kansas law, but used campaign contributions to throw people out of office, and to support judges and politicians who favored him and bent the law for him.

The DHS domestic terrorists memo said that Pro-Lifers were on the list, and heres proof!

Another one of Rahms crises that should not go to waste! And although the infamous memo was pulled, the seeds of doubt & mistrust were planted in the minds of many sheeple. Get ready for a media blitz against the pro-life cause, regardless of Operation Rescues responsible Press Release.

Vigilance, warriors! The persecution continues, but dont give up. There are many who will stand & do exploits because they know their God. This is OUR time!!

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posted on 05/31/2009 11:34:15 AM PDT
by HotLead61
(Death as a Free Man is much preferred to "life" as a slave)

First of all your analogy is completely broken. In the case you describe there is an illegal act occurring. In the case of abortion, it is currently legal, even if wrongly so.

As a nation of laws when a law is unjust we are called to non-violent civil disobedience to change the law. There is a right way and wrong way to approach a problem. I have put in numerous hours and miles protesting abortion and praying in front of abortion clinics. Until today we were winning this battle...this one act has set that progress back immeasurably, which will ultimately lead to many more innocents being butchered.

I would bet most of the armchair cheerleaders for this act have never once lifted a finger (let alone gotten their butts off their chairs) to do anything about abortion.

With the number of Freepers taking the “high” road on this thread, by now somebody must be suffering from hypoxia.

Tiller was a vile, evil person who had fouled the air we breathe for entirely too long. Do I condemn the man who finally took out the garbage? Let me put it this way. “Vengeance is mine,” saith the Lord. Who am I to question what means He uses to exact that vengeance?

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