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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™

Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg

Just posted in the last thinkpad general but i guess its dead now but just picked up a dell latitude e6420 for 200 bucks the specs are
i7 2620m, 1600x900 screen, backlit keyboard, 4gb of ram, 120 gb ssd and a 9 cell battery. Howd I do?

>>52569792
I know it's viable for you nerds but I need muh Creative Suite bruh.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 01:23:33 No.52569890

>>52569465
that sounds pretty dank, anon. is it a TN or IPS screen? sounds like a solid T420 alternative.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 01:26:22 No.52569931

>>52569465
If it's IPS mate you done got a great deal! If not, still a good deal, just not great!!!! WOW! Which distribution will you load? :^)

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 01:29:40 No.52569982

How big of a deal is getting a glossy screen over a matte one?

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 01:31:45 No.52570011

>>52569982
If you only use your laptop in dark environments, a glossy screen can be nice because the blacks will be slightly deeper. If you use your laptop in light environments, you're going to want the matte screen because it will reflect A LOT less light than the glossy screen and therefore reduce glare significantly.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 01:33:01 No.52570024

>>52569531
Just bought a KEK 220 and am perfectly fine with the 1366x768 res desu senpai. Linux runs better on lower-DPI screens and it's not like I look at anything except for websites and code. :^)

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 02:07:33 No.52570440

>>52569851
Show us literally anything you made that isn't MSPaint-tier.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 02:28:54 No.52570735

>>52569851
What for your best friends twitch banner?

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 02:35:37 No.52570818

>>52569681
hey man. canyou share the wall[a[er? I had it on my desktop before we got evicted and lost it all

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 02:46:44 No.52570968

Are there any good deals on T series right now?

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 03:04:55 No.52571197

>>52570818
sure thing senpai :^)

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 03:06:02 No.52571209

>>52571197
thanks

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 03:15:26 No.52571334

>>52569890
tn but its not as bad as it could be

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 03:22:30 No.52571406

>>52571334

the t420 screen isn't that bad either, people act like it's worse than it is. good stuff man sounds like you got a smoking deal.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 03:31:18 No.52571491

>>52569931
I have kubuntu on right now because its my first real crack at linux and i dont need my ass tore up too bad

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 04:05:45 No.52571844

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 04:37:14 No.52572200

What distro should I go for for my x220t? Something someone who doesn't have too much experience with Linux.

>inb4 arch
>inb4 gentoo

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 04:47:00 No.52572310

>>52572200

Windows 7 Professional

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 04:52:32 No.52572376

>>52571844
kek
>>52572200
if you use the "t" features of your x220, go with mint or a *buntu based distro, soley because touch shit will be gud out of the box without 3 hours of needed configuration

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 05:04:09 No.52572506

Just got my x220t, holy crap the viewing angles on this machine are amazing.

Also the 1366x768 is just fine on this thing, considering the small screen size.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 05:07:37 No.52572535

>>52572506

dat IPS?

what'd you pay senpai I think I want an x220t as my next dankpad

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 05:09:39 No.52572556

>all these cucks trying to rationalize 1366x768
Truly pathetic.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 05:11:13 No.52572573

>>52571406

It's pretty much the only thing I wish to change on mine. If they get the FHD mod working bug free, I'll pay the money to buy the kit and a FHD IPS panel in a instant.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 05:13:11 No.52572588

>>52569531
>x200s
>1440x900p
It's not that bad.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 05:15:10 No.52572611

>>52572573

I'd replace my slave drive with a terabyte and swap out the screen, but... meh. I'll just upgrade to a T440 or whatever in a year or so, maybe get an x220 IPS in the meantime.

fucking thinkpads man

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 05:20:49 No.52572662

hey g
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0156VPUTS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A3S4H3E5TUN1NP
is this a good buy its refurbished and made sure too a working condition.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 05:22:16 No.52572673

>>52572588
Until you tilt the screen by 10°.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 05:27:59 No.52572713

anyone have experience replacing the fans in thinkpads? i picked up a t410 recently which fails to boot with "fan error." i've opened it up and tried reseating the fan connector but it looks like it's dead completely as it won't spin up at all.
the part number on the one in there is 45m2721, but i can only find 45m2722 for sale... are they compatible? it has the same 3 pin connector and looks the same

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 05:31:36 No.52572745

>>52572535
yeh, IPS

Paid $400usd for it, came with SSD&HDD, 8gb RAM, pen, DPtoHDMI and the stylus. i5 model.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 05:36:59 No.52572793

>>52572713
Lots of different FRU but basically there's only 2 types, regular cpu only and one for cpu + dedicated gpu. Get the one for dedicated gpu even if you have integrated as it has more surface space to cool your cpu.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 05:39:32 No.52572812

>>52572793
great. thanks anon

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 05:47:55 No.52572896

>>52569681
150:1 contrast ratio

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 05:48:59 No.52572913

>>52571406
>not that had
It's actually as bad as it gets. You seriously can't buy another laptop with worse color accuracy and viewing angles

If I'm looking for decent battery life, plus expandability, which of the T4XX Thinkpads would be the best?

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 06:20:58 No.52573324

>>52573313

>>52573273

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 06:21:55 No.52573332

>>52573313
pulling like 7 hours off my 9 cell t420 with a quad core and two hard drives. they're all about the same though.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 06:24:01 No.52573352

>>52573332
I was thinking about the T420 with an SSD and a 9 cell battery, but I wasn't sure if maybe the T430 might be better.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 06:28:54 No.52573402

>>52573352

it's better overall, keyboard isn't as great but still fine. better screen, better processor series. comes down to how much you want to spend

also t430 can only use genuine lenovo batteries, no cheap chink batts. again, comes down to your budget

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 06:52:13 No.52573637

Compare to previous generations, is X240 any good? I have heard it has some defects like screen ghosting, bad trackpad etc... but is it really that bad?

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 08:01:04 No.52574155

>tfw one of the batteries I got with my x220t has writing in German
Is this safe to use? The current battery I have now seems to last only an hour. I was sure this was suppose to last long than that. I'm assuming it's near death.

And laptops are suppose to get hot, right? My keeps going to 80c or so before trying to keep cool. Should I get one of those cool pads?

>>52572556
Well the screen is pretty small. Everything would probably be pretty small on 1920x1080. I could always hook an external anyways.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 08:01:27 No.52574159

>>52573332
this is just plain wrong.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 08:09:36 No.52574234

>>52574155
DON'T USE IT, it will take over your country and install a puppet head of state

everyone says ebay is better but it doesn't seem like there are much better deals by the time you get the cross border shipping in

Are refurbs from Staples/Newegg.ca a decent buy for Canucks?

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 08:57:52 No.52574690

>>52572556
>1366x678
>not 1280x800

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 09:00:22 No.52574707

>>52569322
Does anybody know when the x260 will be available in europe?

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 09:32:36 No.52574973

Is there any issues in running android X86 of USB/DVD on Think pad T420?
Especially regarding the drivers?

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 09:38:35 No.52575026

ive been thinking of buying a x220 is the res really so bad or are all of these jus ebic meymeys

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 10:24:23 No.52575449

>>52575026
depends on what you're used to, for example if you're using 5" phone with 1440x2560 res. then it will look like shit to you, but if all you've ever used was FHD on 40" TV (or 24"monitor) you'll be fine

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 10:27:36 No.52575480

so, the 2014 battery program is still active, how many batteries have you snatched and how many of them shouldn't be in your possession?

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 10:30:35 No.52575515

>>52575480
Looked up a 9 cell s/n on ebay and changed 1 character to get my free battery :^)

Will I die if I buy a cheap chink power supply? I found a great deal for a thinkpad but it doesn't come with a charger.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 12:41:05 No.52576610

>>52576567
The price between a chinese vs genuine one isn't that much if you search around.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 12:42:20 No.52576617

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/B00GQSO1L4/ref=mw_dp_olp?ie=UTF8&condition=all
I was recommended to get a t440s or 50 with a $600 budget. Wanting quality screen and something relatively light. Cop?

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 12:56:33 No.52576741

>>52576567
I'm getting one of these things for my X200 simply for portability's sake. Cost is manageable at 450 SEK (about 50 USD). There's also the Zolt (nicer but pretty steep $100 and only has US plug) and the Finsix Dart (also expensive and that's assuming it ever gets released).

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 13:18:04 No.52576939

>>52576567
I got one for my T60 and it broke in less than a year. The thing was a pain in the ass to use before that too, the cords were terribly short and the brick got hot as fuck. The extra money for a genuine charger is well worth it.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 14:29:23 No.52577600

I would just like to express my gratitude to the lovely people who contribute to /tpg/. You don't get the credit you deserve.

I fell for the meme and I'm loving it!

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 14:34:01 No.52577651

>>52573273
thats a good deal. i think i lucked out when i got a 2410-m / 8gb / 320gb hdd for $140 but this is even better

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 14:57:01 No.52577913

do you guys actually use these poorfag laptops in public?

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 15:02:45 No.52577980

Does it exist a Thinkpad with a i5 / SSD no matter what capacity / 13 or 14"
for less than 1000€

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 15:02:50 No.52577982

>>52577913
Hush let them fall for the meme :^)

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 15:03:44 No.52577997

Guess I might as well ask in here, I turned one of my old laptops into a home server and now have no laptop to work on at uni so am looking for some kind of small net book thing just for not taking, is there a /g/ recommended device?

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 15:05:40 No.52578023

>>52577997

*just for taking notes

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 15:18:55 No.52578157

>>52577997
X220 Tablet

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 15:22:22 No.52578191

Hi, I bought an X201 on ebay for like $200.
Is the proc decent enough to viably run gentoo? I really want to try it, I've heard great stuff about gentoo and I've never had a nice enough processor for it. I'm stuck using Arch right now.
The proc is a core i5 gen 1.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 15:22:58 No.52578201

>>52577913
define public

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 15:25:22 No.52578233

>>52577913
I'm going to use my laptop in public, yes. What makes this worse than my current HP? To me, Thinkpad has a respected sleek business design actually.
Not every laptop has to be 4mm thick, nigger.

>>52569851
Don't bother, Linux fags think design means drinking coffee and drawing dumb shit like a hipster, they dobt know shit about the industry. Linux is good for some few jobs where technology beeds to be stable and software isn't thar closed source, but 90% of the working world requires Windows or Mac ajd they don't like it.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 15:56:20 No.52578577

>have x61
>right now leading an auction for a x201

What type of upgrades can i see between these two laptops? I use them as linux machines for when i feel like being a fucking nerd.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 15:57:56 No.52578590

>>52574707

February.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 16:00:05 No.52578617

>>52573637
had one, screen got repaired under warranty.
trackpad is biggest shit i have ever seen.
anon, not buy one.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 16:00:09 No.52578618

>>52578577
>I use them as linux machines for when i feel like being a fucking nerd.

Reddit pls go

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Latios 2016-01-23 16:02:44 No.52578657

>>52575729
Richard is dead so I wonder what direction David will take things now

>>52575026
It's pretty much one of the largest screens in which 1366x768 is tolerable. Note tolerable. It could be better but it's not exactly a horrendous experience either unless you're coming down from something much higher resolution

>>52580383
>>52580409
You have to short some chip on the mobo with a screwdriver ( or any other tool that fits) it's pretty easy for x200 & x201 I am not so sure about the other models.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:09:01 No.52580461

Did i do good /tpg/

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:11:38 No.52580508

>Thinkpad was supposed to arrive the 21st
>USPS delayed due to snow
>Roads are already clear
>Item still another town away meaning I won't get it till Tuesday at least

:(

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:11:58 No.52580514

>>52580423
Well, that's probably not going to work then. You might get pseudo-mouse support, but forget about the pressure sensitivity and such.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:13:06 No.52580534

>>52569322
Anything cool I can do with an SSD'd R61 and X220T?

Librebooting the latter sounds like quite a task and requires me to buy more hardware.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:15:56 No.52580592

>>52580514
I see. It seemed like a stupid idea since a lot of difficult factors would go into making a Thinkpad Tablet an input device

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:17:07 No.52580613

I've seen where the x220 tablet is popular for hackintosh, does anyone know how to use the pen with it?

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:20:01 No.52580648

>>52580613
Tl;dr: You don't. There's no official touch support on any OSX, so basically think of the tablet as a gigantic touchpad.

Not worth the trouble.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:20:35 No.52580661

>>52580648
I've seen a youtube video of it working but no documentation provided

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:21:32 No.52580672

H-how'd I do anons? Might get this.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:22:32 No.52580684

>>52580661
Sorry it was an x61t running hackintosh not a x220t, do they use similar drivers though?

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:22:36 No.52580687

>>52578747
>I've been running linux for years
>Someone else running linux is a faggot

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:27:17 No.52580761

>>52580687
Quit being so booty blasted. You're a faggot because you use linux to feel like " a nerd". You're a loser.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:29:25 No.52580794

>>52580761
>people running linux to try out new things is a bad thing
This is why linux will never be accepted in society

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xsauc 2016-01-23 18:31:39 No.52580822

>>52580508
Waiting for a T430s next week and IPS 1080p screen. :x

>>52580648
I swore it was working for some sort of X Series tablet.

>>52578760
IPS has been available since the 2nd gen model, but not on base screens

>>52578692
Paid $900 to get an IPS model, but had to use 4GB RAM and 128GB SSD.
SSDs can be bought under $100

Sold it used for $670 after upgrading to 256GB SSD.

Honestly I didn't think RAM was a big issue, its underclocked processor sucked.

>>52576567
Had one but bought another TP and it came with charger.

Non OEM's get hot and don't last.
Started to be a pain after 2 years, but I stopped using daily it after the first six months.

>>52572713
Pretty straightforward unless you have an X series tablet (L and E do vary, check HMM)
You'll have to remove the keyboard and bezels around them.
Maybe remove one LCD hinge for it to be easy.
Just get the proper fan by checking your FRU.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:32:59 No.52580839

Just ordered a W550s, should be here sometime this week as long as the snow doesn't interfere with shipment. Can't wait!

>>52580461
Loved my X220 when I had it. Only thing I didn't like was the screen resolution. Put an SSD in there and max the RAM if you like.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:34:26 No.52580871

What's the difference from a t61p 15.4" motherboard and a t61p 14.1" motherboard. Trying to make a frankenpad, but there is not site/forum thread saying you need the 14.1" version.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:35:00 No.52580882

>>52580794

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:35:59 No.52580897

>>52580871
I don't know, but you may find some relevant info in the service manuals, etc. linked here: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T61p

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:37:09 No.52580917

How come the ktgee thinkpad guide stops at the buying stage? We could add this to the wiki: reinstall OS, stress tests, recommended software/upgrades for each model, etc. There's an obvious demand for this with people buying them here all the time.

>>52577980
I got that with a 15" for less than 400€ kek
>>52580508
New england should try being as mild as old england.

>>52580996
>>52578542
I can agree that I partially do this. I like how linux feels. I like feeling like I am in a productive environment and want to be (learn'ed?). I spend a lot of time drinking coffee/rb/tea to keep up with night studies and day work. Linux has become a little more stable than W10. Sometimes I need windows to interface windows. It is then viable. I found GNU-Linux gnome via cygwin to be exceedingly reasonable and an awesome environment so much to make it my main OS, well, at least linux mint.
>>52570735
perhaps this guy isn't well versed in linux. Your time is money and pay for what you can't deal with hense windows or mac. Linux if you have a quick second to quickly find your answer.
>>52571197
this level of design better be making you money or you are wasting your time

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gnu_byte 2016-01-23 18:52:34 No.52581133

>>general
I realized while looking at macbooks that these systems with mac are embedded meaning it is like investing in a car. When it is dead it is dead. While the macbook is appealing in weight and backlit, the OS and embedded components don't seem manageable or affordable LT. Thinkpad is bigger but modular which is a trade off. Meaning if my battery kicks out I replace it as am used to. I don't want to carry around something that is over 3lbs however when going to a coffee shop to socialize or try to casually network. This seems tedious.

my overall analysis is make a variable that is what you consider the laptop weight (for anyone going through this same struggle). What does it mentally cost you to have to deal with weight? $0? $200? $300?+ Then performance as it can dwindle when using some of the low end shit. Make a formula then set it equal to a budget and factor in time.

On an unrelated note, apple seems to have it in tight with adobe. I fucking hate adobe and use a browser that won't even let adobe load without bitching 3x ways to Sunday. Fuck adobe. Use java's API for animation instead if viable in context.
side note: thinkpad's fan in t410 are easily accessbi
>>bitching
I feel as though this thread is just a showman's place to brag about having a cheap laptop. Has anyone here done anything worth a damn with theirs? I gave mine stickers and used it to learn html and started coding a site. Its change page left, right buttons are great in Notepad++ to quickly view notes/code and compare. I'd now consider getting a lenovo keyboard at the very least for man in the middle mouse.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:54:41 No.52581160

>>52580461
that's pretty cheap for the euro market, right?

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:56:11 No.52581179

>>52580794
it already has been accepted by those that have an actual use for it like enterprise and scientific

It really doesn't need more special snowflakes jumping off the Windows bandwagon

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:56:35 No.52581182

>>52581160
yeah thats pretty cheap

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:56:46 No.52581187

>>52580461
>>52581160
Yes

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 18:57:42 No.52581198

>>52581179
Do you realize which thread you're in? "old hardware" is a legitimate use for linux. Stop with "le hipster" bogeyman meme.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 19:02:03 No.52581247

>>52580461
>tfw your soon to be laptops cpu is as powerfull as your current cpu

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 19:12:18 No.52581390

Just got a x201, its a great little laptop for programming, basic games, and other normal computer shit. But how do people use these things as their fucking daily driver, I mean if you had a newer one with Nvidia graphics, maybe. But something feels wrong about not being able to easily upgrade more than just the Memory, HDD, and battery. Although that's more a laptop thing than anything. Still, this feels better than any other laptop I've ever used, if not a little under powered due to only first gen i5 and Intel graphics. Even if you're not a gamer, many people here that aren't neetfags (if those who aren't exist on this board) do some type of hardware intensive work like CAD or Animation.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 19:14:02 No.52581414

>>52581198
Agreed, built a shit pc out of parts from an old machine that came with vista basic, and a few XP machines, and then put it into a pizza box. It wouldn't run windows 7 it was so bad, so I had to put linux mint on it.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 19:22:04 No.52581547

>>52581390
If you need to do hardware intensive work, you do it on a proper workstation. If you need to do hardware intensive work on a mobile platform, you get a stronger laptop. For work that's not hardware intensive, a machine like your X201 or even my X200 work out just fine. Honestly, I'm not clear on what the issue here is.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 19:22:56 No.52581557

>>52580672
you can get it for less

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 19:24:14 No.52581580

>>52581547
I agree, they're nice machines for programming, and basic gaming, but I don't understand how so many people use these as daily drivers. Maybe they don't, it just seems like it. Either that, or a lost less people do hardware intensive things with their machines than I think.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 19:26:15 No.52581618

What's an acceptable deal on a T450s with an i5 and a 1600x900 TN at this point?

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 19:26:26 No.52581622

>>52581557
Yeah, although it might have a 4GB of ram or something, I don't now how much they come with by default, although I know the X201 I paid $100 for had only 2GB of ram, instead of the default 4GB.

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Anonymous 2016-01-23 19:29:17 No.52581667

surf around on ebay more, if you actually read the thread there is one here

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