This report was constructed from over 9 hours of video interviews,
personal interviews and individual commentary. It is structured in
an open question-answer format, without regard to who is asking the
question and who is answering; this format also allows insertion of
other data in the later part of the report in the same open Q&A
format. The data is not proven or verified, but is reported as
received.

the technology of cloning
and the development of synthetic humans and political replacement
programs

the Middle East situation

Congressional awareness of
drug and alien agenda

the MIB

the US Army and the black
helicopter forces

government mobile mind
disruption technology

nature and purposes and
the Orion Group

fourth density
transmutation of the human race

geological changes

Sirian Mind Control
technology,

...and more, along with
illustrations gleaned from witnesses with photographic memory and a
lot of courage. This information is supplementary to that in Chapter
7 (Matrix III).

The Interviews

Where do you want to start?Let's start with the Phoenix Project.

It was a project that evolved out of the Philadelphia Project.
it was a project that the Navy did in the 1930's and 1940's in an
attempt to make ships invisible. They threw the switch one eventful
day and the ship went into hyperspace. They had all sorts of
problems with the people on the boat. It was a huge success as well
as a huge failure - then they shelved it. Around 1947 it was decided
to re-activate the project and it was moved to Brookhaven National
Laboratories with Dr. John Von Neumann and his associates.
Out of Phoenix I came Stealth technology, which I cannot talk about
because of my job. It also produced all sorts of energetic little
toys like the radiosonde.

What is a radiosonde? Well, in all appearances it was a little white box that they attached
to a balloon and sent up into the atmosphere. The government told
people that it involved gathering weather data. It used a very
unusual type of pulse modulation. In most cases they used a CW
(continuous wave) oscillator and pulsed the signal.
This turned out to be a very efficient conversion of electrical
energy to etheric energy. I very recently started collecting
radiosondes. I never saw a receiver. I found out that they were
designed up at Brookhaven National Labs. I started to talk to people
at Brookhaven and ran into a retired gentleman who used to work
there. He told me that the design was originally done by Wilhelm
Reich.

That peaked my interest. The story goes that in about
1947 Wilhelm Reich handed the US Government a weather control
device, a device that would do DOR-busting. Reich thought that if he
could decrease the amount of DOR that storms would not be so
violent. DOR is the result of orgone energy coming
into contact with an enclosed radioactive source. This produces a
Deadly Orgone Energy - DOR - which threatens life. It is also
produced in the atmosphere through other processes. The government
sent the device up there into a storm and it did reduce the
intensity of the storm.

The government liked it, and they started
another phase of the Phoenix project where they designed these
"radiosondes" and started launching them in large numbers, maybe 200
to 500 per day. The radio in these things had a range of about 100
miles. If they used so many of them, one would think that receivers
for them would be common-place. I used to be a collector of radio
receivers. I have over 100 in my personal collection. I have never
seen a radiosonde receiver. I have heard of them but I have never
seen them.

What are the frequencies used?The frequencies used are 403 MHz and 1680 MHz. They used two different
frequencies.

They are both on at the same time? No. One or the other was used at any one time. The earlier ones used
403 MHz plus or minus 2 MHz. The later ones used 1680 MHZ, plus or
minus 6 MHz. The "thermistor" in them had gold, silver, platinum and
iridium in it. Reich used sensors that had gold and silver in
them. The humidity element is a plastic plate with silver around the
rim and conductive lines going across the plate. They put a very
unusual mixture of chemicals on this plate. Unlike most humistors,
the resistance went up as it got damp.

What we're theorizing at this point is that the "thermistor"
(temperature sensing) rod acts like a DOR antenna out-of-phase. The
"humidity sensor" acts as an antenna for the orgone; The pressure
sensor is essentially what they call a barrel switch, which is a
pressure sensitive cycling switch. The device would destroy DOR and
build up the orgone. The transmitter consisted of two oscillators,
one of which would run at the carrier frequency (403 or 1680) and a
second one which was a 7 MHz oscillator hooked into the grid of the
carrier oscillator. The result was that the 7 MHZ oscillator would
pulse on and off.

How does all this relate to what was going on with these other
projects? The government could not tell the public these were weather control
devices. What we are seeing here is actually the genesis of what
became the Montauk project, which was a combination of
Wilhelm Reich's work and the Philadelphia Experiment.
There were two separate projects going on in Phoenix One. You had
the invisibility aspect and you had the development of Wilhelm
Reich's weather control. Toward the end of the Phoenix
project, by using some of Wilhelm Reich's concepts and some
of the transmission schemes used from the "radiosonde" project, they
found that you could combine the two -factors and use them for MIND
CONTROL. Government circles would have me say "mood alteration", but
mind control is what these idiots were doing.

That's what the Montauk project was?No. Phoenix One. After political circles found out about
it they wanted it shut down. The people that were running it went to
the military and proposed that they could use it to "influence the
minds of the enemy". The military loved the idea, and let them use
the old Montauk Air Force Base. Among the equipment requested was an
old SAGE radar unit, which was on the base. The base was shut down
and everything was auctioned off. The group then moved in from the
Brookhaven Labs. That began what we call Phoenix Two.
They spent the first ten years, from about 1969 to about 1979,
researching pure mind control. They started out by taking the output
of the SAGE radar, modulating the special wave that Reich had
showed them from the weather control process, and combined that with
something noticed from the Philadelphia Experiment
work. They transmitted about 406 MHz. It would hop around
frequencies and change in phase. They used the amplidine concept
where you have many stages pulse-modulated. BRF was from 10 cycles
to 750 cycles. The pulse width could be varied anywhere from 10 to
75ms. The center frequency was 406MHz generated from a stay-low type
function which was referenced from a zero-time function.

Was there any other modulation on this?There was frequency hopping on it.

So Phoenix Two started in 1969?Yes, in the period from 1969 to 1971. Phoenix One went
from 1948 to 1968. The first part of the mind control project was to
take an individual and stand them about 250 feet away from the
antenna. The SAGE radar had a peak pulse power of .5 MW. The antenna
had a gain of 30db. That means an effective radiated power of at
least a gigawatt. It was nominally a gigawatt. Can you imagine what
that would do to people? I think its amazing these people are still
here. It does things like burn out brain functions, create
neurological damage, scar lungs from heat, etc. They tried this with
a number of people and there were few survivors.

Where did they get the volunteers for this?
They were just grabbing indigent people off the street and throwing
them in front of the radar beam. That's the sort of nonsense that
the government loves to do.

Who was in charge of the project at this time?
Dr. John Von Neumann and Jack Pruett.

Any particular agency?I'm not sure what the agency was. Now, somebody got the brilliant idea
to put the subjects directly in line with the gain horn of the
antenna. Lo and behold they got their result without burning the
people up. They found out that by varying the phase modulation and
the frequency hopping and the pulsing of the multiple phases that
they could have profound effects on a persons mind.

How many people worked at this installation?About 30.

Who authorized them use of the base?The Air Force and the Navy. It was a joint project. There were both
Navy and Air Force personnel involved. We have copies of the orders
for the Air Force personnel.

What was the cover story for the base?
They had none. It was a derelict base.

It was abandoned. It was turned over to GSA as surplus around 1969 or
1970 when they shut down all the SAGE radar systems.

It was a "non-existent" operation. It was a perfect cover.

Where did they get the funding?It was totally private.

Corporations?It didn't originally come from corporations, although it did in later
phases. The original money came from the Nazi government.

This is Phoenix One?No, this is Phoenix Two and Three. In 1944 there was an
American troop train that went through a French railroad tunnel
carrying $10 billion in Nazi gold which they had found. it was $10
billion at the 1944 price of $20 per ounce. The train was blown up
in the tunnel. It killed 51 American soldiers. The gold turned up
ten years later at Montauk. This has been verified.
That money was used to finance the project for many years as the
value of gold went up. They spent all of it and ran out of money.

That's when they tapped on ITT, who funded it.
ITT was owned by Krupp in Germany. In terms of
personnel, many of the civilians and scientists there were all
ex-Nazi's who came from Germany both before and after the war ended.
The project was under US Government surveillance. The intelligence
community knew what was going on and the CIA monitored
everything, as did other government intelligence agencies. The field
of players who actually operated on the base was small, between 30
and 50. The funding was entirely private. After 1983, Senator
Goldwater found out about it and started an investigation. He
couldn't find any trace of government funding.

Pruett was the metaphysical director of the project. He was Air
Force. After he left Dr. Herman C. Untermann took over. They
had an electronics expert, Dr. Mathew E. Zerrett, who came
over from Germany in 1946 with Werhner von Braun. Probably
the reason that they ran out of money is that they had a total of 25
bases around the United States to support. The last of the bases
shut down August 12, 1983. The base at Montauk, where
all the stations got their zero-time reference from, shut down and
the other two remaining bases went down with it.

What about some of the mind effects?From what I recall of the program, as I was part of it, I was
subjected to the mind control field not as I initially went into the
program (because they wanted me initially for my sensitive
abilities) but later. I was assigned to the indoctrination of the
younger recruits. The first indoctrination turned out to be a
disaster. I told them I didn't want anything to do with the program,
and they put me in front of this mind beam, and it did do damage to
me. Finally, someone said, "shut it off, he isn't going to give in
to it" and they shut it off. Others were affected much more
seriously than I was. The effects were generally really bad. It
could burn your brains out. They would go out and pick kids between
the ages of 12 and 16 off the street...

That's where a lot of disappearing American kids went?We estimate they took 10,000 American children off the street and
brought them to Montauk, New Jersey. The total number
of people that they pulled off the streets for the 25 stations was
about 250,000. What the actual thrust of the program was in terms of
all these kids is still a mystery. We still don't know the answers.
We know they were fully programmed for something. They were
subjected to programming which eventually became more "humane" using
advanced electronic techniques. The original programming was Reichian in nature and was more physical. Later they worked out
techniques that used computers and electronic programming with the
Reichian techniques that took very fast and had little side
effects.

Are you aware of any people presently who have been through this?I've run into people over the years. There is a very specific field
identity pattern you can detect if you are sensitive enough. You can
spot a person who has been through the Montauk program
"five miles away". it's vary distinctive in the way that it's been
altered. I've spotted more than a dozen people in the Long Island,
New York area.

What about Von Neumann? He was still alive up until 1989. He has run into a problem with the
government as well as other problems, such as a personality split in
1977, when he resigned as director and became a consultant. The
government told everyone he died in 1956. The government is still
interacting with him.

Were any of the Montauk subjects given psycho tropic drugs?I don't think so...

They used one drug which was used in connection with the
Reich
programming to make them more receptive. I don't remember
the name of it. The effect of the drug was that it would make you
"horny as hell".

Also euphoric at the same time?Also euphoric, yes.

Did they get this mind-altering chair from the aliens?The prototype came from the aliens. Beyond that we are uncertain. This
chair was essentially a mind amplifier. The government would have
specially trained individuals sit in the chair and generate thought
forms, which would be amplified and transmitted. They could transmit
the signal and put people in a pre-orgasmic state where they would
be receptive to programming. It worked very well and they found
other capabilities. They found that it could work in time. They had
a psychically trained individual sit in the chair and generate a
thought form of a vortex that connected 1947 and 1981. That's
exactly what they got - a time tunnel they could walk through. There
was a series on television at one time that portrayed this concept
fairly accurately. These were some of the earlier capabilities. They
started going forward and backward in time. That was the last phase
of the
Phoenix project.

When did this time machine get going?
Around 1979 or 1980 it was fully operational. This transmitter had
enough power to warp space and time. The individual in the chair
would have to synthesize the vortex function because they didn't
have the technical capability to do that. It can now be mechanically
synthesized. They did other things. They had the subject in the
chair think of some creature, and the creature would materialize.
They had the individual in the chair think of all the animals at
Montauk point charging into town, and that's exactly what happened.
They almost had the power to create a being. The problem they had
was that what they created only stayed as long as the mind amplifier
was on. The power was somewhere between gigawatts and terrawatts.
Tremendous power. The vortex could have a diameter of about five
miles.

Can you describe what this looked like?Its like looking into a peculiar spiral tunnel which was lit up down
its entire length. You would start to walk into this thing and then
suddenly you'd be pulled down it. You didn't walk through it as
such. You were more or less propelled through it. You could go
anywhere in space and time.

Could you bring things back?Yes.

Have you ever brought anything back?Yes.

Could you continue your description of the tunnel?Yes. The walls were solid but fluted. The tunnel was not straight but
was a sort of corkscrew shape.

If someone turned off the power, would you be stuck in the
destination time and space?Yes. You'd be stuck there.

Did they send a lot of kids down the tunnel'?Yes, but we don't know what their goals were. They lost a lot of kids.

Since there is a time loop between however far you went back in the
past through however far into the future, is everything fixed?Yes.

One of the first things they did was send recruits forward to
around 6030 AD. It was always to the same point.
Somewhere in an abandoned city where there was a statue of solid
gold. When they came back they were asked what they saw. Whether
they were expecting to find a different answer from person to person
is unknown. They would look into the vortex and make sure the
environment would support life before they sent people. They took
samples.

Are there potential futures that people could be sent to?
No. Once you make the connection with the future the line becomes
fixed to that point.

Can you change the present by sending someone to the past?Yes. You can also change the present by sending someone into the
future. Under certain conditions. The government is using existing
time machines to go forward in the Montauk time line.

Are you saying that now the present can't be changed because we
have established a time-loop through the future and the past? Yes. That means whatever everyone is doing between the most extreme
past point and the future they will be doing forever.

What is the furthest anyone has traveled in the future?
10,000 AD.

So everything is locked in until 10.000AD?
Yes. It's a dreamlike reality. No one has picked up a tangible future
beyond 2012 AD. There is a very abrupt wall there with
nothing on the other side.

Prophecies speak of earth changes around then.Curious, isn't it?

Can you project yourself two hours into the future and meet
yourself?Yes, but its very dangerous. The person who walked into the tunnel is
out of phase with the person who comes out the other end. This did
happen. The result is that the person just incinerates.

Did they ever give you a weapon in case you ran into anything
negative?They didn't have to do that. The vortex could be arranged to follow
the person, so that they could bring them back in if anything went
wrong. They could see them on a viewer.

So they achieved a
working time portal. At one point
they had a situation where they had a "monster from the ID" type
creature come through and everyone went into a panic. They shut the
transmitter off. The creature ate people and equipment. They had to
go back and shut down the unit in Philadelphia in order to shut off
the unit in the future so they could stop this creature in 1983. This was on August 12,1983. The vortex locked on to the 12
August 1943 test and formed a loop.

All this occurred because
someone planted the thought in the mind of the operator in the chair
to generate this creature. It was an effort to sabotage the project.
A lot of people thought the project had gone too far. When I worked
for them between 1971 and 1983, I was so tired when I would
get home from work. What they would do is that when I my mission was
over they would return me to a point milliseconds before I left. It
would appear from one perspective that I never left. Of course,
after I stopped working there, all that stopped. Is there a reason
that all these things happened?

If you go back into the
Philadelphia experiment end of
it, which was the beginning of the whole business, one can see from
the way that thing was maneuvered that there was a higher force of
some kind involved in setting the whole thing up .... because it
never would have happened the way it did unless two obscure dates 40
years apart coincided between the two experiments: the project
known as the Philadelphia experiment, or Project Rainbow, in 1943
and the Montauk project in 1983.

If I may interject something here. There is a point about two thirds
of the way down the time tunnel where the person who is going
through the tunnel perceives a large "thump". The person's
consciousness leaves their body. There is a tendency to see things
on a broader basis. I am sure there was some intelligence there.
Looking back on my experiences, I'm sure there was some intelligence
there. I would have trouble with the recognition of it. What they
were trying to do at
Montauk was to stabilize the perception process that
would occur upon exteriorization from the body. They were trying to
manifest that for some reason. We don't know what their purpose was.

What was the role of the aliens in this whole thing, other than the
prototype of the mental amplifier chair?That would be the another part of this that we haven't got into yet.

Let's look at what the Philadelphia experiment got into
in a technical sense. It was what started all this happening. It
originally began back in the 1930's in Chicago with three people. Dr. John Hutchinson Sr., who was the Dean of the University of
Chicago, Nicola Tesla, and
Dr. Kurtenaur, who was an Austrian physicist who was on staff
at the University.

They decided to do something with the speculation regarding the
concept of things and people being invisible. This subject had been
discussed for several year. They got together and did some research
at the University of Chicago around 1931 or 1932. In 1933 the
Institute of Advanced Studies at Princeton was formed and the
project was transferred there in 1934. One of the people on staff at
the Institute was Dr. John Erich Von Neumann, who was from
Budapest Hungary. He got his degree in chemistry in 1925 and his
Ph.D. in mathematics in 1926. He taught in Europe for about four
years and transferred to the United States. He taught at the
graduate level for three years and was invited to join the
Institute.

Other people at the Institute included Albert Einstein, who
left Germany in 1930. He went to the California Institute of
Technology for three years and taught there and then went to the
Institute upon their invitation and acceptance. A lot of other
people showed up there as time went on. The project expanded about
1936. In the meantime, Tesla
was named director of the project.

He was a friend of president Franklin Roosevelt, whom
Tesla met in 1917 when FDR was secretary of the Navy. Tesla
was asked at that time to do some work for the government for the
war effort, which he did. He accepted and became director of the invisibility project until he resigned in 1942. In 1936,
after intensive study, they decided to have an initial test of their
work. They achieved some partial invisibility. The Navy and everyone
else was encouraged to continue the work, and the Navy supplied
money for research.

Scientists were coming to the United States from Germany until 1939,
when the war with Germany was started.

In 1940, after research using
Tesla's approach, they decided
they were ready for a full test at the Brooklyn Navy Yard. They had
a small ship and a tender ship at each side. One ship provided the
power and the other supplied the drive for the coils. They were
tendered to the test ship by cables. The idea was that if anything
went wrong they could cut the cables or sink the test ship.
Everything worked and the project was declared a success.

The important point about the 1940 test is that there was no one on
board the test vehicle. It was strictly a dry run with no people.
This is important because of what happened later.

Other people came on board.
Thomas T. Brown joined the project
because of his expertise in electrogravity effects. He had the task
of solving the problem of the German magnetic mines that were
affecting allied shipping and Naval efforts. This led into a
parallel project which involved the use of degaussing coils and
cables to explode the mines at a distance from the ship.

The Navy wanted several people to keep an eye on the tests. That is
how I got involved. Keeping technical commentaries. Let's look at
Nicola Tesla.

In 1879 his father died and his first year at college ended. He came
to the United States in 1884. He had enormously intuitive insight.
He had a perfect track record. Before coming to the US he had known Robert Oppenheimer, who later worked with the development of
the atomic bomb, and Dr. David Hilbert, the mathematician who
devised equations for Hilbert Space, which described multiple space
or multiple realities mathematically. These equations for multiple
space became very important in the project.

Dr. von Neumann
met Hilbert in 1927 and retained a lot of what he had learned. With
that, Von Neumann developed other new systems of mathematics. Von
Neumann was considered to be one of the most outstanding
mathematicians in this century. Some think he was better than
Einstein. Another mathematician involved was
Dr. John Levinson, who was born in 1912. He died in 1976. He
published three books on mathematics. There is no other history of
Levinson himself anywhere that I can find. Levinson developed
the so-called
Levinson Time Equations. With all this behind them, the
group had all they needed to proceed with the project.

After the
successful 1940 test, the Navy decided to give the
project unlimited funds and to classify the project. On December 5,
1941 I was in San Francisco and the government came and told me that
a war with Japan would start within 72 hours and that they needed me
to assist them. In January 1942 I ended up at the Institute of
Advanced Studies.
Tesla was given a ship and a crew for a full sized test. Tesla
got a battleship. Tesla and Von Neumann didn't agree
on some things.

Tesla insisted that they were going to have a very
severe problem with personnel. Tesla wanted more time but the NAVY
wouldn't agree. Tesla made periodic announcements in the late 1930's
and early 1940's about his contact with off planet species.
He was in contact with the outside, who agreed that there was a
problem with the people. He decided to sabotage the 1942 test in an
attempt to stop the project. He de-tuned the equipment so nothing
would work. The test failed.
Tesla then turned the project over to Von Neumann in
March 1942 and left the project.

Von Neumann went to the Navy and requested time to study the
problem to determine what had gone wrong. Von Neumann decided to
make changes in some of the equipment. He decided he would need a
special ship that was designed from the ground up. The Eldridge was selected. The equipment was built into the
ship. They put all the equipment on the ship. October 1942 arrived.
They selected 33 volunteers for the crew, who arrived after
graduation in December 1942. We still have a picture of the class.

After the ship was out of dry-dock work began. In May of 1943
von
Neumann installed a third generator. It would never synchronize
with the other two. It went out of control one day and zapped one of
the men. Von Neumann pulled out the third generator
(installed because Tesla had convinced Von Neumann of the potential
problem with people) and went back to the original design. In mid
June, the ship had sea trials. On July 22, 1943, they had the test.
The ship between radar and optically invisible. They discovered
people very disoriented. The Navy pulled the crew off and consulted
Von Neumann, who requested more time again from the Navy. The
Navy, after consultation with higher-ups, announced that the drop
dead date was on the 12th of August, 1943. Von Neumann voiced
his concern that it wasn't enough time.

The Navy decided that it just wanted radar invisibility and not
optical invisibility. The equipment was again modified by Von
Neumann. August 12th arrived. We knew things were not right. The
test began, and for about a minute everything was all right. The
ships outline could be seen in the water. There was suddenly a blue
flash and the ship disappeared entirely. No radio communication was
possible. It was gone. In about three hours it came back. One of the
masts was broken. Some personnel were partially embedded in the
steel deck. Others were fading in and out. Some disappeared
entirely. Many were insane. The Navy extracted the crew and
proceeded with four days of meetings to decided what to do about the
problem.

They decided there would
be one more test with another dry run without personnel. They
conducted the dry run using about 1000 feet of cable attached to
another ship. In late October 1943 the test occurred. The ship
disappeared for about 20 minutes. When it returned, they found
equipment missing. Two transmitter cabinets and one generator was
missing. The cabinet with the zero-time reference generator was
intact. At that point, the Navy stripped the ship and stopped the
project. The Eldridge served in the war and was turned
over to Greece at the end of the war.

The important thing is that there were two tests that were exactly 40
years apart to the day. It was a 40 year separation in hyperspace.
Now, the Earth itself has a biorhythm
that peaks on a 20 year cycle on August 12th. It "just happened"
to peak and provided the connecting link through the fields of the
Earth for the two experiments to lock up in hyperspace. Walk-in
efforts are aided if they occur during this peak.

The ship was pulled into hyperspace. We were inside the ship and knew
something was drastically wrong with the test. We tried to shut it
off but it wouldn't shut off. We ran out on deck and jumped over the
side of the ship. We jumped overboard but ended up in a time tunnel
which ended at Montauk, Long Island on August 12th,
1983. At night. We were found very quickly and taken down stairs,
where Von Neumann greeted us. He expected us. It was a bit of
a shock. We had just been in 1943 and now we were in 1983 looking at
Von Neumann as an old man. He said that there was a hyperspace
lockup and that we had to go back and shut off the generators on the
ship or the hyperspace rift would keep increasing and possibly
engulf the planet. He had been waiting 40 years for us to arrive.

Montauk sent us back and we smashed the equipment with axes.
The ship returned to its original point in space and about three
hours later in time. From 1943 on, Von Neumann didn't know
what happened. He had modified earlier equipment in 1943 to where he
had a full blown time machine. The Germans also were working on time
travel, and had it working in 1945 just before the end of the war.
This is all a matter of record.

After the Navy decided to shut down the project in 1943,
Von
Neumann
was sent to work on the atomic bomb project at Los Alamos until that
was over. In 1947 there were major changes in the Department of
Defense. Someone in the new structure decided to dig up the
Philadelphia project to see if they could find out what
went wrong. They asked Von Neumann to "take another look" at
the project. He agreed.

There is another matter. Starting about August 6th, 1943,
UFOs
appeared over the Eldridge for about six days. They
were there during the test. One of the UFOs was sucked up into
hyperspace with the Eldridge and it ended up in an underground
facility in Montauk in 1983. It contained a charging device which
some aliens made us go back and get for them, as they didn't want
humans to have it. We don't know who they were. Pruett was concerned
about an alien invasion.

Also, Von Neumann was called by the government to come and
assist in the examination of a crashed UFO in 1947 at Aztec. Another
crash occurred at Aztec about a year later. The first crash had greys on it and none survived. At least one occupant survived the
second crash. The radar systems unintentionally brought down the
craft. Radar was used intentionally after that until the aliens got
wise to it. The occupant of the second crash was not a grey, and Von Neumann got to talk with it. Von Neumann asked it what the
answer to the invisibility problems could be. He learned that he had
to go back and do his homework in metaphysics. The nature of the
problem was that the personnel on the ship were not locked to the zerotime reference of the ship. Humans are normally locked to the
point of conception as a time reference, not a zero-time reference.
The time stream lock allows the person to flow in synch with the
system so interaction is possible.

Time locks are fragile. All the power of the project disrupted the
time-locks of the people on the deck on the ship. When the ship came
back in time, the people didn't come back to the same reference.

Von Neumann realized that he needed a computer, as well as some
knowledge of metaphysics in order to be able to lock the time
reference of the people to the time reference of the ship. He built
a computer in 1950 for the purpose. It was ready to be installed in
1952 and a test was performed in 1953 that was successful. They
didn't go floating off into space when it was over. At this point,
the Navy canceled Project Rainbow and changed the name
to project Phoenix.

A lot came out of the negative effects of the Rainbow project. Some of
it led to mind control research programs in the Phoenix project. The
invisibility research produced some Stealth technology
as well as other highly classified projects.

In 1983, they decided to apply mind control to all participants in
these projects in an effort to cover them up. They had also been
working on another project: age regression. Now, Tesla had
sought back in the 1940's to develop equipment that could help the
members of the crew after they lost time-lock . The government
developed it into the age regression program. It was physical age
regression. A person retained the memory they had from the older
age.

Tesla's theory was that if you took the individual's time-lock
and moved it forward in time than you would remove aging. That's
what happened. It took between 30 and 60 days for the body to
complete the change to the new time reference.

Now, some of this turned up in the movie called the
Philadelphia
Experiment, which was released in 1984. The government got
an injunction which banned showing in the US for two years. It was
overturned in 1986 and it was out on tape. I saw the film in 1988,
and it helped bring back some of my memory about this.

Any initial comments about electromagnetic?
Well, are a lot of interesting aspects. There is a explained by most
theories. It is not magnetic field only propagates at 0.4 of the
electromagnetic field propagates at the speed electric field
(according to Maxwells equations) propagates at the rate of
c-infinity, which means that it propagates throughout the universe
instantaneously. If you understand those basic relationships and how
they interlock with higher order energies and fields, like soliton
and tensor fields, then you can understand how an antigravity drive
will work.

It is a fact that the unified field theory was completed
by Einstein and given to the US Government. They have it and they
don't want anybody to know they have it. It was never released
publicly in any books. This kind of knowledge is used as a method of
control between and for governments. It's unfortunate. The
government is supposed to be "for the people and by the people".
That is what it says in the Constitution. I wonder when the last
time the president read the Constitution?

It seems like there are more people involved in secrecy than there
are scientists. Where are all these people? There are government agents and agencies
everywhere that
are concerned with keeping things secret. These days, the secrecy is
applied more to the applications of hardware than the hardware
itself. It's not like it was in the 1950's. As an example, the
guidance package for the new Minuteman X missile that was developed
for the Air Force by Northrop is unclassified. There was no
classification on the circuitry and It was so accurate that it could
take a missile and drop it down a chimney stack. The applications
was capable of was classified.

Isn't a lot of this left out in the open to distract what is really
going on? Of course.

What is the capacity of the gravity craft fleet of the United
States?

I don't know. I know that they have built quite a number of them.

What are the capabilities of these craft? Well, when our astronauts first landed on the moon in 1969 they were
greeted by a fleet of disks sitting on the rim of a crater. The
astronauts asked their superiors if they knew about these disks.
They were told "yes", that they were American disks. The astronauts
were angry at being used as public relations men by the government.

Why spend so much money on the Stealth bomber when they have had
this gravity technology for so many years?Well, the aircraft combines two aspects for invisibility. One of the
aspects relates to the construction and coating applied to the
surface. The other aspect relates to an electronic type of
invisibility package which is a result of work done on the
Philadelphia experiment years ago. Also, the stealth has
a secondary drive system which is very advanced and allows it to fly
in space. The assistant director of NASA admitted that
this came straight out of alien technology. He admitted this
to the public.

He did? Yes.

That's interesting in view of the government's apparent position
with respect to covert technology. There are breaks in the government secrecy programs that are
starting to show up. More and more people are getting
totally disgusted with government activities and attitudes and they
are beginning to talk.

Maybe it's a deliberate leak. It could be deliberate. Even
MJ-12 in 1984 was about to
break some information to the public about ET's and UFOs. They
decided not to release it at that time. John Kennedy demanded
that they release it within one year. He also demanded that the
CIA get out of the drug business. They assassinated him.

Have you found any resistance to what you have been coming out
with?
No. The Navy keeps quiet, but I hear rumblings underground that they
are definitely not pleased about it. The so-called .. "martyrdom
clause" works in my favor. They know that I know why they can't
touch me. If they do, they know that there will be real problems in
time and space because of it. There are two of us that are holding
certain factors in stability. If anything is done to either of us,
there could be a rip in hyperspace. The whole reality system will
shift. I will give you one guess as to what it will most likely
shift to: We won the second world war by a slim margin. German
technology was way ahead of us. If the war had
gone on another 30 days the Germans would have won it. They had
super weapons in production which they were ready to use. They were
so close to winning the war that Churchill and FDR
were really worried about it. If the system shifts, it could shift
to a parallel reality where the Germans won the war.

That's why the government doesn't dare kill either of you?
Right. Because of what we were involved in, it might jeopardize our
entire reality system.

Could you explain how a closed time loop works?Well, one of the problems that has developed is that when you travel
through time you cannot come back to the exact point of origin.
It has to be later than when you left. If you were to come back to
the exact point at which you took off you would be at the same point
twice in your lifetime and there would be a very serious problem.

Would you refresh my memory about some of the dates involved with
the development of electronic mind control in the US? The mind control experiments were moved to Montauk about 1969. The
hardware phase of some of the later experiments began about 1975;
equipment to modify the SAGE transmitter was ordered about 1973.

ITT was the main contractor and sub-contracted portions
of the contract out. Most of the contracts were awarded to firms on
Long Island.

So what did they actually prove that they could do when the
experiments were over? What they essentially proved they could do was that they could control
a person that they had the "signature" for. This pattern that was
unique to an individual could be put into the computer program for
the transmitter. A second order wavelength would be transmitted that
has a lower attenuation and affects that persons mind directly.
There could be a command to do anything focused at the person. Once
a device was constructed that illustrated this principle on a wide
scale. A mental message was put out that if anybody heard the
message they were to call a certain phone number. Over 600 calls
came from all over the East coast all the way down to Florida. It
works.

That's interesting. There's a fellow who calls himself
Lord
Mattreya
who says that he is the Christ returned to the planet; that when he
links up with the international press he will send a telepathic
message to the entire planet in their own language and they will
hear it. They also are supposed to receive a visual image. So.. they
have that technology?

Yes. There is not only an individual signature. There's a
racial
signature and also a universal signal for the
human race. The government has used all three to target specific
individuals. They have also done group messages targeted on a
specific racial or ethnic group. That's common. In Boston and New
York they were doing experiments on "mood control" on the cities.
Transmitters used no longer exist, but the technology does.

Do targeted individuals perceive what they are receiving as their
own thought?Yes.

Is there any defense against that?Yes and no. Theoretically no. This is what the government depends on.
Practically speaking, they can't get everyone, because some people
are naturally resistant, depending on their level of mental and
psychic development. Perhaps 5% of the population do not respond to
these signals. If they get 95% coverage, they don't care about that
5%. That's what they have the riot squads and the concentration
camps for. There is no defense unless you can interfere with that
signal. Some people just don't react.

So they transmit a thought signal?Not exactly. If you were put on an EEG, you would exhibit a certain
pattern of electrical responses. These can be recorded and they are
unique to you. It can be recorded and stored and replicated on a
computer. If they can replicate your RNA/DNApattern they've got you too - for life.

You mentioned about concentration camps? Yes. They are all over the United States. There are three in Arizona
alone.

So they can control us to the point where we'll just hand over our
guns?That's what they hope. It depends on how effective this equipment
becomes, how thoroughly installed it is everywhere, and whether or
not people can ferret this stuff out and render it inoperative
before that time arrives.

How about the idea of a conflict between moral conscience and what
the mental command tells you do to?You don't have the option not to act as it says the way that equipment
is set up - if you are not aware enough to make a connection that it
is not your thought. It does not negate choice, it just puts in a
strong impulse or command. Those people who responded by calling
that number had no idea what went through their heads. Some of this
does require preconditioning to a response pattern.

Could they be doing this over the media, like television and radio?Of course.

With this kind of technology, why do they need concentration camps?
Because there are always people that are resistant.

I would think that they would annihilate them, not lock them up. The
first step is the camps, where you can handle them easier, then you
can eliminate them en masse. You don't go down the streets shooting
everybody down. Once you're in the camps, they break you down
mentally. They're experts at that.

We think they're shipping guillotines in there for the people that
don't comply. They're looking for a slave labor force. That is what
H.R. 4079 is about that's in Congress now. It creates a
slave labor force in the prison system, which will be privately
owned. States will pay the private prison a fee in order to put
their prisoner in there.

Yes.

What are some of the other projects that relate to the capacity of
factions operating within the United States Government and
corporations to manipulate and control the population?Well between 1977 and 1978 a project called Dreamscan
came on line. It ceased in 1979. The goal of the project was to gain
the technical ability to enter into an individuals mind in the dream
state and cause his death. There was a movie called Dreamscape which
showed what they discovered they could do. The project was run by
the Secret Government and managed by the NSA. The
purpose of the project was to provide for a means of covert
assassination. President Carter found out about it and had it
stopped. The hardware is still intact and in storage. There have
been attempts to put it back on line by various intelligence
operations, some of which are said to involve AT&T
operatives.

What else? Around 1987, a project called
Moonscan started. It
lasted into 1989 and involved positioning mind control equipment on
the moon for use on the population of earth. It, like the others, has clear connections to negative alien activity.

Who ran that one?It was managed by an organization called
Airborne Instrument
Laboratories (AIL), who have had other covert projects under
their wing. At the time, AIL was run by Eaton
Corporation. It is now managed by the Department of Defense
as of 1988. There are three branches of
AIL: Covert, Commercial, and Defense.

Any other mind control programs that you can mention?There was a project called Mindwreaker that would allow
paralysis of the mind. The aliens were heavily involved with that
project. It produced several neurological weapons, some of which
are used on the B-1 bomber, which also contains a lot of alien
technology. At time, various alien species came and went out of
AIL. There was one group called the K-Group,
which was short for the Kondrashkin. They had pale
skin that had a slight greenish tint and almost no hair. They looked
human, and had to bleach their skin and wear wigs. They have been
periodically involved with covert projects since the 1940's.

Where has AIL been located?In New York Stare, at Farmingdale, Deer Park and Long Island.

What is the current status of AIL?Well.. there were eight projects ongoing at AIL that
also had to do with the development of weaponry against aliens. In
1989 the Orion group discovered this and destroyed the
projects. It can only be assumed that AIL still
functions in other areas.

What other research goes on at Long Island?
Research on scalar weaponry, like the one that destroyed
the Challenger.

I thought the Challenger was destroyed by the Soviets using scalar
weapons? No. The Soviets didn't do that. The oddity with the incidents as far
as the Soviets were concerned was that they pulled their ships about
150 miles out to sea before it happened. They were not the direct
cause, which was a scalar weapon that they were trying to put into
orbit and test. It accumulated a charge while the Challenger
was going up through the atmosphere and turned itself on. That is
what destroyed
the Challenger. It might have been deliberate.

What was the ultimate power behind the Phoenix projects?Ultimately, the whole thing is manipulated by the Orion group.
The expectation was that they could use mind control to take over
the populace in the 1990's - no later than 1994 or 1995. They have
also been doing genetic work in which they alter a human sperm and
ovum to the extent that all offspring will produce hybrids with new
characteristics. Humans will mate and create children with alien
genetics. That's one step beyond the average abduction scenario.
There are other things happening with the human race.

Like what?
Since 1947, there have been components of the 6th race
incarnating on the planet. The 5th race was the Aryans. The
6th race humans are 100% telepathic - the secret government
and the Orion group sees them as a threat. They've
been aware of it since 1942.

Wasn't there a movie about something like that years ago?Yes. I don't remember the name, but it came out in 1982. In that film,
there was a drug that made babies that were 100% telepathic. This
kind of thing has actually happened. There was a Canadian company
that was producing a drug which turned out to do just that. This was
between 1946 and 1947. It was removed from the market immediately,
although its use continues privately. In the movie, the government
had a way of using electromagnetic to explode a persons head to get
rid of them.

Sounds like something they might have developed at Montauk.
It does, doesn't it?

What is the current situation with aliens?Somewhat mixed and confused. There has been a lot going on all around
the planet. In September and October 1990 there was an alien group
from some other dimension that was attempting to invade the planet.
They took down all the zero-time generators all over the country.
The FAA was especially affected. The rogue group was stopped by
another species. For many years, some factions of the Orion
group depended on a ring of alien satellites that would
sustain life functions. Those were wiped out in November 1990 by the
same group.

So there are positive light forces out there that are seeking to
balance these negative activities by the Orion group?Yes. I am not at liberty to tell you their identity.

Do you think that this group is related to those who flew over
military nuclear silos and rendered the warheads inoperative? I don't know if they were involved, although I could ask. The nuclear
charade is another thing on a cultural level. The idea of nuclear
war was eliminated a long time ago by all major powers on Earth. The
threat of a nuclear winter and the fact that you can't detonate two
nuclear devices too close together in time stops them from doing it.

I think a lot of people are aware that the same forces that control
the United States today are the same forces that supported the
buildup of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union and arranged for WWII
and Vietnam.
The public has been lied to in so many areas since the early 1930's
that they don't know what's going on. Most people still think
that the Congress and the President run the country and that they
have Constitutional rights.

How about some interesting technology spin-offs from the
Philadelphia experiment?Well, there are a lot of them in use by the
CIA and the
NSA, as well as other corporate and government agencies.
There is a portable unit that can render an individual invisible.
The NSA is known to use those on a fairly regular
basis. There is also a UFO research
based covert organization that is believed to have them.

And what would that be?
Well, its a super secret international organization that is funded by
all major governments. It performs research on aliens and alien
technology, cover-up operations, and also does espionage. The group
is negatively oriented and is considered to have no positive
attributes in relation to other humans. It is called the International Aerospace Alliance.

How does it fit into the hierarchy of command and control?It's connected to MJ-12, which is believed to be headed
by
Kissinger
at this time. It is also connected to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and
the President. AIL type units are also connected to
the
MJ group.

I have heard a tape of Robert Lazar, the EG & G scientist, and
others who indicate that the highest clearance level is ULTRA. Is
that it? There is also BLACK LEVEL clearance.

What is involved with those little implants that are spheres?Those devices are about 3mm in size. They are called SBMCD's,
or Spherical Biological Monitoring and Control Devices. They
represent an organically enhanced synaptid processor powered by a
micro-positron flow that controls or mimics the functions within the
human nervous system with micro relays that duplicate brain
operation or engram patterns.

What is the real story behind Wilhelm Reich?Most people are familiar with Reichs brilliant work with bions,
weather modification, cancer biopathy and other devices. Reichs work
has been of interest to the National Security Agency for some time,
and it involves the fact that when a person is electronically
maintained in a pre-orgastic state in their nervous system, gateways
unto the mind open up for mind control to take hold. It is his most
secret work as far as applications are involved.

Reichs contact with alien species, his discoveries about life energy and
cancer, and the mind control applications are some of the reasons
why he was killed. This knowledge was combined with other
knowledge, some of it alien in nature, and integrated into the work
at Montauk and subsequent covert projects to subvert
the people of the United States and the world under an Orion
based system.

What are some of the ways they put people into this state?
Well, there are these devices. Every psychiatric facility has them.
For a male, they attach electrodes to five points on the body (you
can guess what one of those points are) and turn the device on. It
makes programming an individual really easy. It is devious, but a
lot more humane than the old electroshock therapy. The thing is, the
device is being used for control instead of in a way that might
benefit the individual.