Frank Delicious wrote:So when did proper grammar and punctuation start taking more work than incorrect? It doesn't save you any time or thought to riddle your post with comma splices and when you know the rules of writing you do them automatically.

The forum rules obv need to be revised to reflect your need for punctuation. What I do, and what you do are obv much different. For a biz letter I make sure everything reads right, for an online disc golf forum I don't. I'm glad to have have you guys available to proof my posts, and attack them.

Do you know what the Lama says? Gunga galunga... gunga, gunga-lagunga. So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness" So I got that goin for me, which is nice

regardless of p-bear's communication skills, i'm still thoroughly confused by how this was an awesome marketing idea. a bunch of people getting pissed at a product is good marketing? having your product look stupid is good marketing? or is it the ~6k views of the nate and val apology? maybe i don't get "e,marketing" and that's why i use spam filters.

jsun3thousand wrote:regardless of p-bear's communication skills, i'm still thoroughly confused by how this was an awesome marketing idea. a bunch of people getting pissed at a product is good marketing? having your product look stupid is good marketing? or is it the ~6k views of the nate and val apology? maybe i don't get "e,marketing" and that's why i use spam filters.

Its all about exposure,here are some examples of that, there was the episode of "happy endings" on a top 3 network, followed by disc golfers getting inflammed, and damn near patriotic about defending their sport, the happy endings "apology" story was picked up by cnn, and several other major media outlets, then there was nate and vals apology, which generated a small amount of interest also, to have exposure on so many levels is a huge marketing win, This thread is proof of that. It generated interest, got exposure, the show, which is a comedy (so of course they made fun of dg, for a joke to be funny someone has to be made fun of) , got to make a few jokes, and also got exposure from this with demographics that they are lookin to hit. Marketing isn't about making disc golfers happy, its about new people finding out about the sport. If your pissed about the way the pdga, or abc handled this you've missed the entire point. It was good for the sport, I hope more shows take shots at disc golf, maybe then people might know what it is. Right now most of the people I meet have no idea. Exposing the sport to the masses will lead to futher growth of the sport, I'm not trying to be insulting, or start an arguement, I'm just saying, this is how it works, I know because I do it for a living, I'm not going to defend my position, or my grammar... take it for what it is worth

Do you know what the Lama says? Gunga galunga... gunga, gunga-lagunga. So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness" So I got that goin for me, which is nice

These guys make an excellent point. The PDGA is absolutely sophisticated enough in their marketing to play this little chess match, and ABC really pinned their meters with all that attention they got from the internet disc golf community.