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I'm well past Christmas Cake in status, so very little makes me tear up nowadays, but... Well, to say that the episode made me feel thoughtful for what seems to be a long time is an understatement. For all of the criticisms about the CLANNAD girls being plot devices more than characters, well, they sure do their roles well.

Too damn It, I couldn't stop crying out loud for nagisa. For the second time I cried for this series and movie. I started to cry at the start of her labor, giving birth to ushio. The episode totally a perfect drama for me.

The ED could have still been "Dango Daikazoku". How do you think you'd feel if that where the case?

I would have liked that WAY better, honestly. Ever since the actual After Story started, I've gradually come to hate the current ending due to how it keeps ruining the mood completely, and it was worse than ever this week. Actually, this is all making me wonder why I didn't hate Kaze no Tadoritsuku Basho, which was just as big a mood-killer...

Anyway, back to the episode...
I knew this was coming, yet that didn't make it any less heart-wrenching to actually see it. They really surpassed the "Goal"-scene in Air here, if you ask me, and that's pretty damn impressive. 10/10 for the episode, and as of right now, I also give the series itself a 10/10.

Goal scene is pretty godawful when it comes to what it signified. In AIR TV, there's far less time allowed to achieve the buildup, but the audience receive no break when it comes to the last climax of that series. I remember being shellshocked by AIR since I marathoned the last 3 episodes in one shot (knowing the plot well in advance at that). Do not attempt this unless if you don't value your mental health much.

Ever since AIR TV, KyoAni seems to have eased off on taking the audience to an emotional trainwreak. To be honest, the reflection in Clannad I think is a deeper one than that of AIR and Kanon out of the gut-wrenching moments. I at least have not been totally reduced into a blabbering, incoherent dysfunctional husk by Clannad and Kanon...

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The ED could have still been "Dango Daikazoku". How do you think you'd feel if that where the case?

As I said in my earlier post, that would have been much better than the normal ending. In fact, the 2 seasons' endings should have been switched.

Torch is much better for keeping up with the comedy/light drama first season. Even after the sad parts, the song could have been played because the sad parts weren't of huge significance (like what happened in this episode).

On the other hand, Dango Daikazoku is perfect for After Story as it basically sums up the mood and theme of everything in After Story. It is also more downbeat and modest thus is very flexible for both those episodes that end happily and those that end sadly.

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Originally Posted by Antenor

Dango Daikazoku would have killed me! Being so closely associated with ***********, that tune would have destroyed what little was left of my spirits...

Geez, that was such a depressing episode. Like many of the people above, I hated that they kept the ED, but I still have to give the episode a 10/10 for how well KyoAni did it and how emotional it was. More thoughts here.

Goal scene is pretty godawful when it comes to what it signified. In AIR TV, there's far less time allowed to achieve the buildup, but the audience receive no break when it comes to the last climax of that series. I remember being shellshocked by AIR since I marathoned the last 3 episodes in one shot (knowing the plot well in advance at that). Do not attempt this unless if you don't value your mental health much.

Ever since AIR TV, KyoAni seems to have eased off on taking the audience to an emotional trainwreak. To be honest, the reflection in Clannad I think is a deeper one than that of AIR and Kanon out of the gut-wrenching moments. I at least have not been totally reduced into a blabbering, incoherent dysfunctional husk by Clannad and Kanon...

Agreed - we have also taken much longer to get to know the characters in Clannad as opposed to the characters in Kanon and Air. I only finished watching Air recently - and I marathoned the whole series - well finished it off in a couple of days - with the final 4 in one sitting - yes, that was heart wrenching but it is nothing like the feeling I have for this episode - and I haven't even seen it yet... just the anticipation is painful.

This is really the most amazing thing that I've ever seen. A part of me doesn't like the outcome of this episode, but I really understand that we need to keep going.

Spoiler for Episode; See It First!:

There was no other way, we must continue witness the true story of CLANNAD. With great sacrifice, there must be true purpose.

Nagisa wanted to have this child no matter what; and that really says something about the human spirit. If she would have aborted this child so that she may live, then maybe the two of them would have continued to live in happiness. But that kind of view has to be incomplete, there must be *something* about child birth that makes it worth that risk, no matter what. Nagisa must have known this.

Poor Tomoya, during the episode he questions himself and his actions. It really must be that tough to lose your most precious person.

I'm so angry right now I can barely see straight. Why? Why? Why does every anime where they actually put effort into the story line decide, hey now we're going to crush your soul. Why would you do that? I don't understand, why can't there ever be a happy ending? Throughout all of Clannad I was pissed because I would have rather seen Tomoya with Tomoyo or Kyou but then in AS I actually really liked Nagisa and grew attached to the storyline.
wtf? WTF? WTF?WTF?WTF?

1/10 for ruining my day.

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Though I really don't remember what was the policy for episodes whose fansub has yet to be released bt whose RAW is already out.

This question just keeps popping up over time, doesn't it For series that have a subforum, the answer is very simple - You venture inside an episode thread, you are expected to face content of said episode. There is little that is more redundant than venturing inside an episode 16 thread, and find a post spoiler tagged as "episode 16" or variations of that. Well ...duh ? People are free to use spoiler tags if they wish so, of course, but episode 16 thread is expected to contain episode 16 content. Simple as that.