I'm trying to decide if a good pair of quality bibs is the way to snowkite to eliminate the cold back sensations from coat-creep. I know there's coats that offer a slip-through thing for the spreader bar but its always the back part of the coat that slips up & I can foresee it still being a possibility. Seems like good bibs would be a better solution?

Anyone like using bibs vs. regular snowpants...any ball-crush issues? Anyone have a favorite brand they like? With gore-tex & eVent options I can't see them as too hot in a long session. More importantly - has anyone bought a pair that fell apart or didn't hold up well due to quality issues?

i love my bibs they fix all the problems i have also heard a lot of good about full suits. as for riding up i were a seat harness so i cant say. I have a pair of Burton snake skin ones pretty ugly but have been awesome. I decided to go bibs when one day i got back to my car and was wondering why the back of my coat was all slippery. turned out my coat had ridden up and it was my back which was completely numb.

I second that. I picked up some Burton Ronin bibs a couple of years ago on clearance, and I'll never go back. Absolutely no snow down the pants anymore. They are very waterproof, yet comfortable, even after a few years of use. Each leg has two mesh/zip vents that are nice to open on warm days. The only complaints are that the front zippers are light weight coils, and the shoulder straps fall down unless I cross them in the front (which they're not really designed for). No issues with crushing...

I've got an older pair of arcTeryx half bib things that I like real well. Not as tall as full bibs and no front pocket. Only complaint is that the goretex is slippery-makes the waist harness slides around a bit more but my leg-loops cure that.

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