sweet problem! what the good word on the beta dobbe? and on a more serious note....was the tree like that before or after the ascent of this problem? to me it seemed someone did a hack job on tree just to climb this thing. between that and the garbage all around the landing seems like people are kind forgetting to take care of their shit! this is right of the trail no excuse people!

Steve, Thanks for your information. I merely posed a question and made a statement of how i t looked like to me. Thanks for your intentions to remove the trash if you dont make it up before i do ill make sure to run by and remove the trash as well. Thanks.

chris that would be sweet! also ive been meaning to send you a pm..it was awesome meeting you mean sorry i was in project mode and kinda distracted! shoot me your digits and when you normally climb id love to meet up! as you can tell another pad is surely needed for bouldering sessions along with some good company! once again nice meeting you its nice to put a face to a MP name ha!