I went out for drinks with some friends at work and we were having a very good time until an idiot drunk guy kept trying to get my attention. I didn't make eye contact and pretended he wasn't there. Boy was I impressed (NOT) that he said he spends a lot of money their each Friday night getting drunk. He can afford to buy anyone whatever they want to drink...and said other outlandish things that are suppose to be to impress ladies. Geesh. I guess the ignoring him didn't register so he walked up behind my chair. I really am not sure what he said but I said loudly, "I am married." I never turned around and never said another thing. He didn't go away and went into the spiel of how he was married for 8 years and it didn't work out. Blah blah. So I simply said, "You married the wrong person." I paid and left him standing there speechless. Why do men like this seem to single out woman who are not interested? I know that they might think that some are playing hard to get but come one...have some selfrespect.

It's not so much that they think you as a person will be impressed by what they're saying, and more that they think you as a prize the universe owes them for being good boys ought to unlock and give them sex when they say the right combination of words. To recognize and acknowledge your lack of interest, they would have to see you as a person on the same level as their fellow men, and these creepers just don't.

Because they think they're entitled to all women at all times. Because they enjoy harassing women. Because they're hoping that the woman doesn't want to be "rude" and they can pressure her into sex.

Originally Posted by Eilonwy

It's not so much that they think you as a person will be impressed by what they're saying, and more that they think you as a prize the universe owes them for being good boys ought to unlock and give them sex when they say the right combination of words. To recognize and acknowledge your lack of interest, they would have to see you as a person on the same level as their fellow men, and these creepers just don't.

Originally Posted by wild_sasparilla

The two above are why when women post excuses for why they are putting up with men they don't like I tell them to ditch the dudes.

We (general "we" applying to women as a whole, but not necessarily individuals) are trained to be polite, kind, non-offensive... and men are basically trained by society to not have to see us as fellow human beings, with that attempt to be polite and kind seen as submission and even more sign they are correct.

There are plenty of great men out there, but so many women still fall into the "just be nice" trap that they wouldn't have ignored then shut the guy down. Therefore guys like this think it must work. Blech.

Speckla - good for you. I'm pretty sure YOU wouldn't have been impressed even if you were single!

Thats so annoying! I posted in Say it I Dare You about being in a similar situation on Saturday night. Sadly, the guy was with a group of my friends so I could not shake him.

I would say, when sober, he's not a bad person. He has custody of his 2 children (yes, I heard his whole life story) and was enjoying a rare night out, but good lord!! He kept saying the dumbest things. He made a huge deal about me never being married and being childless !at my age! He felt the need to give me pep talks about how it would eventually happen, he knew it would, and winked while saying it. Gag. And he was so drunk that he repeatedly asked the same 20 questions. He was oblivious to the words coming out of my mouth. I became so frustrated that I had to leave, which was a shame because I was really enjoying listening to an old friend play music. It was also my first night out, in a bar, since Halloween.

Worn out iPhone. Need I say more?

When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

Just sounds like some wacky drunk guy being super obnoxious. His behavior is hardly indicative of any of the that men I know. And if someone is constantly around men that act like that..err..maybe a change of environment is needed. LOL!

Because they think they're entitled to all women at all times. Because they enjoy harassing women. Because they're hoping that the woman doesn't want to be "rude" and they can pressure her into sex.

Originally Posted by Eilonwy

Is this what they teach in women's studies or psychology classes these days? Just wondering.

Originally Posted by slinky1

I'm not Eilonwy and have never taken a women's studies or psychology class, so I'm not going to try to answer the question, but I have to comment on it. Why would a class need to teach "creepy men see women as objects they're entitled to and like to take advantage of them" to its students? It's not like only college students are ever told to guard their drinks at nightclubs. Isn't that just common knowledge, like "rabid dogs foam at the mouth and behave erratically"?

I've met guys in bars, spent hours having lots if great conversation and leaving separately and not seeing the person again. I'm sure he wouldn't have argued sex if I brought it up, but he kept it respectable. I've also met lots of obnoxious, rude men who think they can say anything and get away with it.

Entitlement comes in all shapes and sizes. Its one of my least favorite types of people. But there are some women who respond to it. Some women will giggle and go home with the disrespectful dillhole.

Because they think they're entitled to all women at all times. Because they enjoy harassing women. Because they're hoping that the woman doesn't want to be "rude" and they can pressure her into sex.

Originally Posted by Eilonwy

Is this what they teach in women's studies or psychology classes these days? Just wondering.

Originally Posted by slinky1

I'm not Eilonwy and have never taken a women's studies or psychology class, so I'm not going to try to answer the question, but I have to comment on it. Why would a class need to teach "creepy men see women as objects they're entitled to and like to take advantage of them" to its students? It's not like only college students are ever told to guard their drinks at nightclubs. Isn't that just common knowledge, like "rabid dogs foam at the mouth and behave erratically"?

Originally Posted by wild_sasparilla

The concepts of "entitlement," "privilege," "power" and "oppression" are major themes in Women's Studies.

And I suspect the question was a bit tongue-in-cheek, as some people feel that Women's Studies literature overstates the impact of these concepts.

A lot of guys do this, they keep bothering you when you are obviously not interested. It's quite annoying. I just ignore. I think they do think that some women can be convinced/pressured to changing their mind. I guess it's true because they keep doing it.

Is this what they teach in women's studies or psychology classes these days? Just wondering.

Originally Posted by slinky1

I'm not Eilonwy and have never taken a women's studies or psychology class, so I'm not going to try to answer the question, but I have to comment on it. Why would a class need to teach "creepy men see women as objects they're entitled to and like to take advantage of them" to its students? It's not like only college students are ever told to guard their drinks at nightclubs. Isn't that just common knowledge, like "rabid dogs foam at the mouth and behave erratically"?

Originally Posted by wild_sasparilla

The concepts of "entitlement," "privilege," "power" and "oppression" are major themes in Women's Studies.

And I suspect the question was a bit tongue-in-cheek, as some people feel that Women's Studies literature overstates the impact of these concepts.

Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000

No, I honestly wanted to know. If anyone would know the answer to that, she waould.

I suppose it would be tongue-in-cheek if, deep down, I didn't kinda believe that. I want it to be tongue-in-cheek.

Iroc, I highly doubt that Eilonwy was saying that all men think they're entitled to women at all times. The OP phrased her question about a drunken jerk referring to men in general, but a lot of us just sort of responded to the implied "Why would this loser behave this way?" in it.

Slinky1, do you mean that deep down you agree with Eilonwy's post or that deep down you believe that Women's Studies courses overstate the impact of the concepts of entitlement, privilege, etc?