Would someone like to explain how the difference between the drug and money laundering cases in Aruba is different from the Natalee Holloway investigation?

The Aruban police have arrested two more suspects in the large scale drug dealing and money laundering investigation. Its amazing what the Aruban police can do when they set their minds to it. Here is a rather interesting comment when it comes to the arrests of suspects in Aruba. So when a magistrate extends custody for 60 days, they have hard evidence in hand? We can remember that Joran Van der Sloot, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe’s custody stays were extended. What’s the difference?

Since September 24th, the OM has arrested a total of ten persons that are involved in drug operations. Of the first eight, only one was released up till now. The examining magistrate has decided to extend the custody of the other seven with another 60 days. This means that the OM has hard evidence in hands.

Why was this investigation handled in a more thorough and professional manner than say the Natalee Holloway missing persons case? We were told that the Aruban police were overwhelmed by the enormity of the case. It would appear that a drug and money laundering long term surveillance and investigation would be quite an intricate and difficult job. So then it was not police incompetence, but something more? What would it look like or people say if everyone that was arrested in this drug and money laundering were released and never prosecuted?

ORANJESTAD – We just learned now that the police have arrested two new suspects as part of the large-scale judicial investigation into drug dealings and money laundering. One of the two suspects was arrested yesterday on the basis of National ordinance Admission and Deportation. The other person was arrested for taking part in a criminal organization, money laundering, and drug dealing.

Since September 24th, the OM has arrested a total of ten persons that are involved in drug operations. Of the first eight, only one was released up till now. The examining magistrate has decided to extend the custody of the other seven with another 60 days. This means that the OM has hard evidence in hands.

Last month’s action resulted from an investigation of the Detective Cooperative Team (RST) in Aruba, which investigation has been going for a long time and was started under the direction of the Public Prosecutor. Also six persons were arrested under suspicion of staying illegally on the island.

The RST was assisted by a great number of colleagues of the Police Corps Aruba (KPA) and of the Customs Department. Financial- and digital experts from the Netherlands have supported the action.

The special squad was called in to assist in the arrest of some dangerous armed suspects. Because the operation was so big, also the special squad from Curacao was called in to help their colleagues in Aruba. Also special sniffer dogs of the Corps National Police Service (KLPD) from the Netherlands were put in to search for hidden drugs and money. One of the suspects is the well-known businessman Luis Mansur (63), who fired his gun when the police entered his home.

His permanent pilot, E.T. was also arrested recently. His house was search and weapons were found. He is in custody for further interrogation by the RST.

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33 Responses to “Aruba: More Arrests in Criminal Drug Gangs … Good Police Work in Aruba, So what Happened in the Natalee Holloway Case?”

Vicki on
October 25th, 2007 10:43 am

Thats why this horrible government is so dispicable….it only bothers and make their laws stick to ppl they dont like or that has no money…but where is the hard evidence they had to have had on URINE. I wish someone would go to Holland and take URINE for a ride….if you get my drift….or karin…..or anyone of the pimps…being they have to sleep with there mommys they would break easy enough….

Maybe if the FBI questions Koen; maybe we can get some answers.
OBTWFBI here is a little help in locating him.
He lives next door to the Olmtak Family.
It should not be too hard to find Koen’s house. It probably smells of Joran.
I wonder what school Sanders is attending. Can he sleep at night with his parents too?

{{edit – we’ve known in the forum where the Gottenbos are living in GA for months. Natalee’s family has known for months. We know what school Sander was attending at that time but I think he’s not attending in the states now – please don’t post their address for all to see. }} (klaasend)

The Boycott of Aruba Roll's On!!! on
October 25th, 2007 11:29 am

Vicky Aruba helped Joran and Paulus disposed of natalee!This is what I believe.I believe Aruba did it to protect C&C’s and their tourest trade.I also don’t think Natalee is in the ocean.Because to put her in a crab trap would have been to messy and to much work for Paulus and Joran.I believe they cremated Natalee’s body.Hence no body no case not even a tooth.The best thing to do is boycott them into hell!!!

Pearl on
October 25th, 2007 12:35 pm

The Boycott of Aruba Rolls On ( #3) – following up, as a consequence of questions surrounding Government officials playing a role, and / or any employees of the government playing a role in AIDING and ABETTING the CRIMINAL ACTS involved in Natalee’s kidnapping, gang rape, murder, physical injuries inflicted upon her, and AIDING IN THE DESTRUCTION OF EVIDENCE LINKING CRIMINALS TO HER BODY, AIDING IN DISPOSAL OF HER REMAINS – would suggest that certain INTERNATIONAL LAWS come into play, as a consequence of an AMERICAN CITIZEN being victimized by a GOVERNMENT / and or its officials or employees – through acts of conspiracy and corruption with criminals who were directly involved in the crimes inflicted upon this child.

As such, it would seem that Aruba is attempting to conduct “damage” control by appearing to look like a real transparent, civilized, law-abiding government, and not a dirty, corrupt, criminal governement as it has conducted itself in the so-called “investigation” into Natalee Holloway’s human rights violations.

Maybe there are ministers of drug money laundering, murder and corruption who are thinking that a couple of arrests are supposed to make the human rights violations inflicted on an American CHILD, Natalee and aided by perhaps – employees of the GOVERNMENT – just disappear?

I believe strongly that Aruba will take action against the drug dealers and their kith and kin who are not ‘registered’ with the authorities; i.e., not paying off the right people.

That only clears the way for the ‘in’ gangs to expand their own trade. It also makes Aruba look good to Washington; “Hey, look at all the drug arrests we’re making. We’re on your side!”

In other words, the insiders continue to get out of jail free, and collect a lot more than $200.

Remember, if Beth hadn’t been so strong, Natalee’s disappearance would have been ‘solved’ with the conviction of the two black security guards, courtesy Joran van der Sloot and other slime.

jenn on
October 25th, 2007 2:25 pm

I don’t post here that often, but I do read some of what is posted. I am wondering what people think really happened to Natalee that night and where she is now? Also, do you think her family will ever get the the peace and closure they deserve?

Klaasend: I got the info off SM:
Then you should not post Koen’s neighbor’s last name nor his 9 digit zip code. Although the actual Street number is crossed out the name of the Street and using that 9 digit zip code number that remained; leads right to his house and Koen is next door.

pearl 4:
Forgive the length I’m rambling again; some things just pi$$ me.
Politics of Aruba, a constituent country of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, takes place in a framework of a parliamentary representative democratic country, whereby the prime minister is the head of government, and of a pluriform multi-party system. Executive power is exercised by the government. Federal legislative power is vested in both the government and parliament. The Judiciary is independent of the executive and the legislature. Aruba but it has full autonomy on most matters. Exceptions are defence, foreign affairs, and the Supreme Court. The constitution was enacted in January 1986. Executive power rests with a governor, and a prime minister heads an eight-member Cabinet. The governor of Aruba is appointed for a six-year term by the monarch, and the prime minister and deputy prime minister are elected by the Staten for four-year terms. The legislature or Staten is made up of 21 members elected by direct, popular vote to serve four-year terms.
Aruba’s judicial system, which has mainly been derived from the Dutch system, operates independently of the legislature and the executive. Jurisdiction, including appeal, lies with the Common Court of Justice of Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles and the Supreme Court of Justice in the Netherlands.
Queen Beatrix Wilhelmina von Amsberg was born January 31, 1938, at Soestdijk Palace in Baarn, The Netherlands. ) became queen of The Netherlands in 1980. An intelligent and strong willed woman, she had to reconcile her personal independence with the duties of a constitutional. The first-born child of Princess (later Queen) Juliana, the heiress to the Dutch throne, and Prince Bernhard, she was first in the line of succession after her mother.
The third and present Governor of Aruba is Governor Fredis Refunjol. He was appointed by Royal Decree of May 4, 2004, No. 04.001780, as of May 1, 2004.

Now in a country as small as Aruba (but also the Netherlands Antilles) it is hard to find qualified staff to take over key positions in your organization. Now with the dutch law relatively similar to Aruban law and most likely a lack of well educated local arubans into law enforcement and prosecution, the best chance the aruban politicians have to find highly qualified and more importantly experienced law enforcement officials and prosecutors. That is why they fish in the same pool of employees that the dutch (country) and Netherlands Antilles government get’s it’s officials from. These people then move/immigrate to Aruba and are no longer “dutch officials working for the dutch government” but they in reality have become “Aruban officials that happen to be born in the country of the Netherlands”. They only report to their bosses in the department and ultimately
Rudy Croes.
This whole case was run from day one to the present day by Aruban officials, that have been hired by the Aruban government. They all have the dutch nationality because all members of the commonwealth are dutch (most of them are probably born in the dutch mainland) but they all are Aruban officials with regard to accountability and control.

Geoffrey van Cromvoirt: Arrested Monday April 17, 2006
Micheal Dompig To Be Arrested
Saturday, April 22nd, 2006
A reliable source has informed Blogs for Natalee that Micheal Dompig, the son of the recently ousted police Chief, Gerald Dompig, will be arrested sometime today.
So (ex) Police Commissioner Dompig what was the date that you changed your theory that the three are guilty as hell to Natalee committed suicide by ingesting drugs????????????????????????

No one wants to connect the dots from Dompig and Geoff to Natalee?????

Just who knows and how high up the pyramid; from the lowest police officer to the Queen is responsible for the cover up.
IMO A to Z The Killer Queen has been all to silent for 30 months.

A regrettable incident: So was Natalee’s kidnapping and disappearance regrettable and just how involved was your son? You can’t protect him because he is not considered a Dutch National so you have to draw attention away from him.

Pearl on
October 25th, 2007 5:09 pm

You have the background of Aruba’s government summed up well 1906, and I suppose questions now come into play since this incident involves an American child in international territory.

I very much have to disagree though about the impression you have concerning the Aruban police.
You see, they (some of them – at least) were trained in the United States under our FBI, which means that Van der Straaten – the corrupt law enforcement official in charge, as well as Dompig and Jacobs all were well aware of what they needed to do, what action they needed to immediately take, particularly in the case of a missing child from the United States.

Funny thing is, they kept telling the press that the “FBI is working closely with us” – only for the FBI to be put in the position to literally correct these statements several times.

On one occasion, the press was told by Police officials – or, whoever they had feeding the lies for that day to the press, that the FBI was searching the water for Natalee. This stated in the very early days of her initially being reported as “missing”.

Within days, FBI officials corrected the statement to the press saying: no one ever set foot in the water.

On another occasion, the press was told – again a big lie, that the FBI was involved in the “search” of John and Jones property.
Guess what? Another lie. FBI officials again corrected that lie told to the press.

It’s made me wonder: why were police and prosecutor officials feeding LIES to the media concerning the role that the FBI was playing, only for the United States FBI spokesperson to be placed in a position of having to publicly correct the lie being told. How many times can you get it “wrong” about FBI INVOLVEMENT, 1906?

And when you look at what was being TOLD to the media, vs. what Karin Janssen and Van der Straaten were ordering their police officers to do and NOT DO….it sure does begin to look very VERY suspicious concerning the level of manipulation of the press that was going on, coinciding with the the purposeful INACTION taking place regarding 3 men, who police knew were lying on the morning of May 30, 2005. Quite an interesting dynamic, wouldn’t you say?

It’s always struck me as so deceptively manipulative that the same corrupt police who waited ten days to get up and interrogate Joran, Deepak, Satish – and eventually Paulus, didn’t have any trouble taking action when the skin of the men selected as targets for framing, and therefore, questioning were INNOCENT BLACK MEN.

But I think you are onto something about the fact that the Netherlands very much has a role concerning Aruba, since Natalee’s case goes beyond their “local” level, and does indeed enter into the “foreign” side of matters.

Pearl; I have not erred in my opinion of the Aruban Police Farce.
Those that were trained knew exactly how to investigate the crime and sanitize the evidence.
They knew and knew how.
You would think that with the uproar and bad publicity that Aruba and The Netherlands has taken; that some where along the line at least a spokesperson for her highness would have given some condolences to the victim’s family.
Me thinks sometimes they doth protest too much: but then again sometimes silence is guilt.

Aruba has no honor and has never told the truth. They simply don’t care if an American child, adult or whoever is killed in Aruba. Unless it was some fat politicians child.

I hope the schools are aware of Gootenbobo implications in Natalees murder.

Maggie on
October 25th, 2007 6:56 pm

And wasn’t Lorenzo set loose due to prosecutor error? Why does that not amaze me. It’s all in the name in Aruba. Remember Michael Dompig, hitting on tourist girls, said Koen’s boat went out, got one of the suspects arrested and Dompig came out and said his son lied about him is why. Wonder why no prosecution for a lying witness? Michael is friends with Joran. Enough said.

Jossy Mansur prints the truth on the front page and let’s see if his brother gets off on prosecution error. I won’t hold my breath.

Maggie on
October 25th, 2007 7:06 pm

Best Halloween costume of the year goes to the sociopath who needs a case of beer to get drunk, lies about his age and who he is and gambles underage all night, frames black people for crimes, and lies repeatedly, dressed up as a delicious sporter, who gives his mom big thick kisses, never drinks, smokes or does drugs and never been to a psychiatrist.

Where’s all those pictures of Joran receiving all those big awards for all his accomplishments? Have never seen one.

brie on
October 25th, 2007 7:38 pm

Police station Monday morning, what happened there?

benh on
October 25th, 2007 8:08 pm

Check out the post on Reallycreepypeople.blogspot. Some one named Anastasa, wrote a letter stating she was told what happened to Natalee claims to be related to kalpos.

brie on
October 25th, 2007 8:21 pm

No one shows up in a bar 30 minutes before closing time unless they had had sex in mind…Joran the pervert did…there was no other reason for him to be there..or for the Kalpoes…last night on the island..I’ve done this twenty times before…well, this is your last time…what you have caused the island, what you have caused the decent people of Aruba, what you have caused Natalee’s family and the American people…prison for you!!!

benh 19:
An interesting premise. However at least some of what was posted there perhaps most, has been previously posted prior to that date.

I am a cousin from Deepak I seen it all

Thu Aug 16, 04:21:00 PM EDT
posted by ANASTASIA @ 9/27/2007 06:04:00 PM 0 comments links to this
A cousin from Deepak could be Michael Dompig or his girlfried.
If it happened there, then there were more then four attackers and perhaps some were female.
Previously, there have been postings that Natalee is buried under the shed at the Van der Sloots. Again it makes no sense when the gold mine air shafts are less then 15 minutes from Montana.
Sorry; this just does not cut it. Why would Paulus risk having Natalee buried there unless he is forced to because of something else either he or Joran did. Also cadaver dogs can tell the difference from rotting fish and a human decomposition.

brie on
October 25th, 2007 10:30 pm

The water search will tell us, if Natalee is not there, then I say human trafficing took place!

We already know that you know practically
every drug dealer in town, half of them
are on your payroll.

Feeling a little pressure from the Dutch, are we?

That pressure isn’t about drug trafficking…

It’s not about money laundering….

They don’t even care if you do a little

Legalized Prostitution on the side…

They want Justice for Natalee…

And NO MORE SCREW UPS!!!

Get it?!?!?!?

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What a sick world we live in.

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Justice for Nat… that’s all.

Chunkie Mice on
October 26th, 2007 2:05 am

am genuinely a nice, peaceful guy, as a rule. You can do most anything to me personally, call me names, throw things, etc. and I will not get mad. To make me fight, you are going to have to hit me, fairly hard, before I will respond. But if you attack my family or the people I like I respond like Michael Vick’s favorite pit bull, how is that for a worn out cliché, would, blind rage, take no prisoners, no holds barred. I have a special affection for Beth. I am a few years older than her and grew up on the same block with her from the day she was born until I left for college. I can still remember her parents holding her walking across their yard bringing her home from the hospital, and I thought she was the prettiest little thing I had ever seen. My relationship has continued with her and been extended to her children. While I may have occasionally gotten irritated with her over this or that, I simply see red when someone else attacks, threatens, hurts her, hurts her children, physically or emotionally and I have been known to actually punch someone in the nose if they make her cry, mostly when we were growing up. I guess I felt like it was my role to protect her, even though she is obviously able to protect herself now. She has whipped that entire island for a couple of years now. However I still react the same way. Am I proud of that? No, I guess not, at least that is what I have been taught is the correct thing to say. I Those people talked so ugly about her, her family, etc. that I typed the meanest ugliest words I could think of just wanting to hurt those posters for hurting Beth. So when you read them, be prepared for a lot of ugly thoughts to be expressed. And I confess, I said them, and at the time I meant them to hurt. In hindsight some of the remarks were void of any class and just plain dumb. I apologize in advance for the vulgarity. Even those vile mean people were discussing how angry I seemed. If we could have all been put in the same room, with them within hands reach of me, they really would have had to talk about though, because I would have no doubt taught them to pay proper respects to a grieving mother. A lesson they obviously need to learn. And bear in mind, those are my words, my emotions, my opinions, and do not represent or speak for Beth. She is entirely too much of a lady, too decent to ever respond as I did. She hugs her detractors; I punch her detractors? just kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pearl on
October 26th, 2007 9:30 am

You said it, 1906!

Yes, Brie!!! THE QUESTION OF THE DAY!

WHAT were they doing at the police office on Monday morning?
Has anybody looked into that?
Who is checking this out!!!!

WHY WERE JORAN, DEEPAK, PAULUS AND SATISH AT THE POLICE STATION ON MONDAY MORNING? !!!

I THOUGHT DEEPAK SLEPT IN.

I THOUGHT PAULUS WENT TO “WORK”.

I THOUGHT JORAN WENT TO SCHOOL, UH – DIDN’T GO TO SCHOOL – UH, I CAN”T REMEMBER IF HE WENT TO SCHOOL, UH, HE WENT TO SCHOOL AND “GOT SICK”.

I THOUGHT SATISH STAYED HOME!!!!!

Somebody help me. Isn’t that what these liars said?

WHO IS INVESTIGATING THIS?

DUTCH POLICE! Have you investigated Monday morning, May 30, 2005 – and why these liars were all gathered at the police station?

WHY DID STRATEN LIE ABOUT HIS KNOWLEDGE, DUTCH POLICE? WHY WAS STRATEN LYING TO THE PRESS, DUTCH POLICE?

WHY WERE THEY AT THE POLICE STATION??? !!!!

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY!

brie on
October 26th, 2007 1:48 pm

Monday morning at the police station MAY 30th..it had to be because of Natalee..so what was reported to them…was it the chaperon that remained on the island…was it a witness that saw them doing something with Natalee…Dennis Jacobs asks Dave how much money he’s got…what did the police already know before Natalee’s family arrived on the island? Was he indicating that money would bring Natalee back or was he asking for money in exchange for information?

Brie, you’re pointing out something I’ve long thought. That is, the infamous question “How much money have you got?” could well have been a prelude to an attempt to see if Natalee could be ransomed, implying that Jacobs knew or had an idea who had her.

Of course, it might also have been an attempt to give Natalee’s parents the IMPRESSION that he could arrange a ransom … and then probably it would somehow “all fall through” and he’d keep the money.

Also glad that I’m not the only one who thinks it possible that Aruban girls might have been involved in whatever happened to Natalee. If they were on drugs and thought she was a “threat” to them (assuming her involuntary presence at a rave party), they might have taken delight in subjecting her to abuse.

Face it: Natalee was extremely attractive, very much evocative (in my view, anyway) of the average teen’s idea of the Hollywood movie star.

I know, she was also educated, intelligent, and a decent person. But for those who look no farther than appearance, she had that too.

And that might well have ignited female fury, especially if she were helpless and the other girls thought it was “ok” to subject her to torment … and, possibly, to sell her into slavery.

I’m sure all American good looking girls are a threat to those gals on the island…Pimps looking for the next victim….girls on the island not wanting their boyfriends to entertain the girls from America! Joran says he called Flor to go out at the almost closing of C&C’S…she said no.. why would she want to go out….of course, she didn’t trust Joran and maybe showed up somewhere…Of course, that could of been a lie..just calling his girlfriend to say good-night…

boywonder on
October 27th, 2007 8:57 am

Please dont lose site as Paulus as the perp and the sporter as the “cover”…..Joran went to C&C with the only purpose of grabbing Natalee for his midlife crisis Daddy.
“You flunked the test to become a judge Daddy? Have some coke and I will bring the girl for you! It’s easy we do it all the time! A young American girl will make your tired sorry ass feel like new! My friends that own the casino’s and let me steal money from the American pendahoes will cover for me AND YOU!!!”

benh on
October 27th, 2007 11:40 am

21..10061906,,, that name Anastasia is why i was drawn to it.Saw a blog cant renember name, from a young woman from Aruba i belive her name was Anastasia ,Oh well thought i would just throw the idea out there.