Seattle is very likely to match any Brown offer. I'd just bring in three good legs and let them compete. Unless we're paying $3M for a top kicker, there's a lot of kickers who have solid legs that could be had for league minimum.

We talked about this on our latest show. It appears that New England has a decent scout when it comes to kickers (see: Phil Dawson, Owen Pochman, Robbie Gould). I wouldn't be shocked to see the Pats pick up a rookie free agent or late round draftee to fill the void. No telling what the Pats will do, but it seems to me that if they were seriously interested in a player like Edinger, they would make a move for him fairly soon.

I think Edinger is a good K. Those that don't can you give some reasons?

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I think most of us are OK with him, it's just a matter of what $$$ he would want and whether he's worth it vs. a minimum salary guy. His 40+ numbers are very good, for some reason he has bad 30-39 numbers the last two years. Is it just one of those things or does he have some kind of mental block in that range ? His 3-8 in that range last year isn't going to work for us.

I think Edinger is a good K. Those that don't can you give some reasons?

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I liked Edinger too. And then I started looking at how he's performed recently and I was appalled.

In 2005, Edinger was 3-8 in kicks from 30-39 yards last year, but 8-10 from 40-49 yards and 3-5 from 50+. His kicks avg. 63 yards, but 8 games were in the dome of Minnesota. Edinger also failed to record a touchback.

In 2004, Edinger was 2-5 from 30-39 yards, 4-7 from 40-49 yards, and 3-5 from 50+. His kicks were a paltry 60 yards and he failed to record a touchback.

Needless to say, I'd rather bring in Josh Huston or Steven Gostkowski. Especially since many of us were complaining about the fact that the returners from the opposing team were always starting from between the 7-10 yard line with Adam kicking the ball.

On EEI they mentioned that according to Edinger's agent there were 2 1/2 teams interested in him.....the 1/2 was a team that was deciding whether to go young or not....they were thiinking this was the Pats.

I liked Edinger too. And then I started looking at how he's performed recently and I was appalled.

In 2005, Edinger was 3-8 in kicks from 30-39 yards last year, but 8-10 from 40-49 yards and 3-5 from 50+. His kicks avg. 63 yards, but 8 games were in the dome of Minnesota. Edinger also failed to record a touchback.

In 2004, Edinger was 2-5 from 30-39 yards, 4-7 from 40-49 yards, and 3-5 from 50+. His kicks were a paltry 60 yards and he failed to record a touchback.

Needless to say, I'd rather bring in Josh Huston or Steven Gostkowski. Especially since many of us were complaining about the fact that the returners from the opposing team were always starting from between the 7-10 yard line with Adam kicking the ball.

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I thought Edinger would be good as well and I was aware of those numbers that you posted regarding his accuracy at 30- 39 yds. Not good there, I guess. But I thought his kickoffs were alot deeper than AV. He consistantly put the ball in the endzone. If the player can bring the ball out and avoid a touchback isn't that more attributed to special teams ability or lack thereof, to contain.
Anyways, another strike against Edinger was that he choked for the Bears in big game kicks. I'm not positive but I think that may have been the reason the Bears let him go.

If the Pats really wanted this guy, they would have signed him by now, I think.

Not being an NFL scout, I'll just have to trust Belioli to come up with the right kicker.

I think we'll see a batch of kickers brought in from anywhere for training camp and the most productive and promising ends up with the job. Doesn't need to have a well known name, just has to kick adequately and accurately. If they improve the offense correctly, we shouldn't have to depend on a kicker to win the game. We should just have a kicker to give us good field position and to add to the lead!

I thought Edinger would be good as well and I was aware of those numbers that you posted regarding his accuracy at 30- 39 yds. Not good there, I guess. But I thought his kickoffs were alot deeper than AV. He consistantly put the ball in the endzone. If the player can bring the ball out and avoid a touchback isn't that more attributed to special teams ability or lack thereof, to contain.
Anyways, another strike against Edinger was that he choked for the Bears in big game kicks. I'm not positive but I think that may have been the reason the Bears let him go.

If the Pats really wanted this guy, they would have signed him by now, I think.

Not being an NFL scout, I'll just have to trust Belioli to come up with the right kicker.

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The average kick yardage is determined by where the returner catches the ball. So, while Edinger might have had a few go into the endzone, his average is still only 63. Which means that the return man was, on average, starting at the 7 yard line.

As for touchbacks and how they are attributed, yes, if a return man brings it out, that is the fault of the coverage. However, I think that Edinger's problem is that he doesn't get enough hang time on his kicks. I noticed that the opposing team starts right around the 30 yard line whenever he kicks. Its not much different than Adam. But the fact he gets no TBs isn't a good thing in my opinion.

Well, by now I am pretty much sold off Edinger. Unless of course the Pats think they can coach him. But then again, there's a few hundred other guys they could do that to, and for less money
I just hope they can get somebody with a reasonable consistant range and can kick deep.