Just picked up my first Mosin this morning and it appears to be in fairly nice shape . The stock could use a little love but it has a bent bolt already and its clean which is huge . And ordanance al threw in a box of hand loads to go with . I figure I did ok for 165

Forgetting that a government produces nothing at all, they leave out of sight the first fact to be remembered in all social discussion — that the state cannot get a cent for any man without taking it from some other man, and this latter must be a man who has produced and saved it.

Yup I'm with you; bought mu first mosin a couple from a local big and the rest was a blur. 7 C&'s and counting....

__________________ "The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke speech of 23 April 1770, "Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents," delivered to the House of Commons.

Been looking for my first MN for the past two months. Really seems like a fun piece to have. Missed out on Aim and I wont do business with Buds. That said, a little birdy told me crates are arriving soon here:

BTW that rifle should be in a case just so you know dont wanna see you get in trouble and lose your new gun

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Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774_1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764

Nonconcealable firearms (rifles and shotguns) are not generally covered within the provisions of California Penal Code section 12025 and therefore are not required to be transported in a locked container. However, as with any firearm, nonconcealable firearms must be unloaded while they are being transported. A rifle or shotgun that is defined as an assault weapon pursuant to Penal Code 12276 or 12276.1 must be transported in accordance with Penal Code section 12026.1.

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Quote:

"The 'Spray and Pray' system advances triumphantly in law enforcement. In a recent case in a southwestern city...a police officer, when threatened with a handgun, emptied his 15 shot pistol at his would-be assailant, achieving two peripheral hits. The citizen was charged with brandishing a firearm, but the cop was not charged with anything, lousy shooting not being a diciplinary offense."
--- Jeff Cooper, June 1990

Why is that?
Of course it would protect it from damage but I see no legal problem with how he is transporting the rifle.

as of 1-1-2013 long gun open carry is banned so even tho its in a locked container as soon as he opens the trunk on what I assume is a public street he is tech open carrying a long gun it should be fully encased

NEW law in 2013

AB 1527 added some new sections to the Penal Code:

SEC. 12. Chapter 7 (commencing with Section 26400) is added to
Division 5 of Title 4 of Part 6 of the Penal Code, to read:
CHAPTER 7. CARRYING AN UNLOADED FIREARM THAT IS NOT A HANDGUN
IN AN INCORPORATED CITY OR CITY AND COUNTY
Article 1. Crime of Carrying an Unloaded Firearm that is not a
Handgun in an Incorporated City or City and County
26400. (a) A person is guilty of carrying an unloaded firearm
that is not a handgun in an incorporated city or city and county when
that person carries upon his or her person an unloaded firearm that
is not a handgun outside a vehicle while in the incorporated city or
city and county.
(b) (1) Except as specified in paragraph (2), a violation of this
section is a misdemeanor.

26405. Section 26400 does not apply to, or affect, the carrying
of an unloaded firearm that is not a handgun in any of the following
circumstances:
...(c) When the firearm is either
in a locked container or
encased
and it is being transported directly between places where a person is
not prohibited from possessing that firearm and the course of travel
shall include only those deviations between authorized locations as
are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.

__________________
Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774_1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764

__________________
Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774_1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764

as of 1-1-2013 long gun open carry is banned so even tho its in a locked container as soon as he opens the trunk on what I assume is a public street he is tech open carrying a long gun it should be fully encased

NEW law in 2013

AB 1527 added some new sections to the Penal Code:

SEC. 12. Chapter 7 (commencing with Section 26400) is added to
Division 5 of Title 4 of Part 6 of the Penal Code, to read:
CHAPTER 7. CARRYING AN UNLOADED FIREARM THAT IS NOT A HANDGUN
IN AN INCORPORATED CITY OR CITY AND COUNTY
Article 1. Crime of Carrying an Unloaded Firearm that is not a
Handgun in an Incorporated City or City and County
26400. (a) A person is guilty of carrying an unloaded firearm
that is not a handgun in an incorporated city or city and county when
that person carries upon his or her person an unloaded firearm that
is not a handgun outside a vehicle while in the incorporated city or
city and county.
(b) (1) Except as specified in paragraph (2), a violation of this
section is a misdemeanor.

26405. Section 26400 does not apply to, or affect, the carrying
of an unloaded firearm that is not a handgun in any of the following
circumstances:
...(c) When the firearm is either
in a locked container or
encased
and it is being transported directly between places where a person is
not prohibited from possessing that firearm and the course of travel
shall include only those deviations between authorized locations as
are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.

frickin bastards, what good does it do to require that we encase our rifles? It is not like they require them to be locked, just encased, hidden from site as it were. This apparently makes all the pussies out there "feel" better.

Quote:

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Transporting
16505. For purposes of Chapter 7 (commencing with Section 26400)
of Division 5 of Title 4, a firearm is "encased" when that firearm is
enclosed in a case that is expressly made for the purpose of
containing a firearm and that is completely zipped, snapped, buckled,
tied, or otherwise fastened with no part of that firearm exposed.

__________________

Quote:

"The 'Spray and Pray' system advances triumphantly in law enforcement. In a recent case in a southwestern city...a police officer, when threatened with a handgun, emptied his 15 shot pistol at his would-be assailant, achieving two peripheral hits. The citizen was charged with brandishing a firearm, but the cop was not charged with anything, lousy shooting not being a diciplinary offense."
--- Jeff Cooper, June 1990

frickin bastards, what good does it do to require that we encase our rifles? It is not like they require them to be locked, just encased, hidden from site as it were. This apparently makes all the Liberals out there "feel" better.

fixed it for you and yea it doesnt make sense but then again what CA gun law does?

__________________
Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774_1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764