Saturday, November 22, 2014

Hive of Bot-Aspirancy, Part 2

Previously, on MinerBumping... Highsec miners Ryuu Rockefeller and shaneduce were horrified to learn that CODEdot was renewing its wardec against their corp. Instead of turning to the Code, they sought salvation in the Anti-Ganking channel.

Roysefus > wow lol its true though. Code says play our way or else... no the anti gankers do too?Agent Tom > no but u do not troll in here and u my god sir is a code trollRoysefus > lol nopeAgent Tom > then why trollRyuu Rockefeller > Agent Tom sir you will have code alts in here carefullSuriv Virus > u act like 1 now Roysefus

No matter how many times Ryuu tried to redirect the conversation toward the wardec, he was thwarted. The Anti-Gankers' infighting continually derailed everything.

shaneduce > our corp is less than 20 people that just do mining so why we a threat to them?Aidan Hawking > He has a point you knowAidan Hawking > He's not really trollingAidan Hawking > Just stating his opinionSuriv Virus > i would cal it trolling.......Aidan Hawking > Stating an opinion that is inverse to what you believe is trolling then, interesting.Suriv Virus > if u talk in favor of code i would say it is

The atmosphere was as tense and toxic as ever. The primary topic: Who was and was not a New Order spy. A stray remark was enough to put anyone under suspicion.

Agent Tom > so u guys think its ok to start picking on those ho like to fighet code and is asking fore help that is trolling in my bokRoysefus > I never said anything in favor of code. Im just tired of all the or elses going on everywhereAidan Hawking > I'm no supporter of CODE, but Roy has a point. All this 'do this or else' BS is fucking annoying.Agent Tom > the leaverKalynn Shardani > only person trolling is Aidan Hawking - he is Norek Crendraven alt https://zkillboard.com/character/90684218/Agent Tom > yes we knowRyuu Rockefeller > so this channel must be cleaned from code alts

After a potential New Order spy was identified, Ryuu and shaneduce made another effort to request help:

Ryuu Rockefeller > these bullied in school code kids cant understand that industrialists are the backbone in this gameRyuu Rockefeller > they are just making profit...by selling fake permits..and want to destroy the game in my opinionshaneduce > its called extorshionshaneduce > the mob in america did it

They were preaching to the choir. Complaints of bullying and extortion are the wallpaper of the Anti-Ganking channel. Now that everyone was on the same page, could their corp receive assistance in the wardec?

Vector Symian > Well well wellVector Symian > what do we have hereKalynn Shardani > lol here come the trollsVector Symian > there no way of telling who is whoRyuu Rockefeller > just keep and eye and watch them smart sirVector Symian > truth

...Apparently not. Each time someone new entered the fray, the channel reverted back to spy-hunting mode. The Anti-Ganking community erupted into a new series of accusations.

Ryuu Rockefeller > well for once again...my corp is a small pve corp giving a nice resistance to code...if someone is whiling to join the fun and help us pls contact meRyuu Rockefeller > this is the 2nd round..and they are not willing to leave us in peaceVector Symian > have we though of a counter propoganda machine against the codeRyuu Rockefeller > hello Kalynn ShardaniKalynn Shardani > hiRyuu Rockefeller > War: CODE. vs. Star to Star Inc any kind and polite anto code joiners would be apreciated and thanful

Finally, a break. Ryuu met Kalynn Shardani, a prominent rebel who makes New Order Agents snicker by calling herself a "highsec mining consultant".

Recently, Kalynn promoted herself from mining consultant to "Senior Specialist". She claims to be able to undo the New Order's trillions of isk worth of ganks simply by sending useful information to gank victims. Her EVEmails basically tell miners to fit tanks and not go AFK--in other words, to obey the Code.

According to the latest rebel blog, "Highsec Militia", Kalynn is a pretty big deal.

Don't worry if you've never heard of the Highsec Militia. There's plenty of time to get caught up with their tear-filled posts.

Vector Symian > Is it possible to simply attack them fianancially...do we know who supports them?Vector Symian > mabe a escort service should be offeredRyuu Rockefeller > no war profiters plz..the profit is to clean our fav game from these kidsVector Symian > identify prime targets that codeys drool over..and protect themshaneduce > mining opsRyuu Rockefeller > you really want to protect this channel with a password and allow only tested members to join sirSuriv Virus > Ryuu Rockefeller we got other cnls to....Ryuu Rockefeller > safe?Vector Symian > they will find it..they simply throw alts in and you will recruit themshaneduce > well problum with that is u start trusting no one

Before Kalynn and Ryuu could engage in a productive talk, Anti-Ganking was once again swept up into a discussion of security issues.

Vector Symian > you see the clever codeys are sitting quitley in here watchingVector Symian > so do the sameshaneduce > dang that a way to shut up a roomVector Symian > I MEANT IN THIER CHANNELSRyuu Rockefeller > Vector Symian u sir cant even stay and talk to see who is code and who isntVector Symian > gawd damit

Highsec carebears are known to be prickly and entitled. The slightest inconvenience sends them over the edge. Imagine an entire channel filled with that sort of person, and you'll begin to understand Anti-Ganking. A fight broke out between Vector Symian and the two miners. Someone slighted someone else, or something.

Vector suggested shandeduce's profanity-laden bio wasn't enough to stop the New Order. He recommended using combat ships. This was enough to cause another argument:

Ryuu Rockefeller > you know... Kalynn Shardani sent a mail to me so i want a convoRyuu Rockefeller > but you sir Vector Symian acting like a kid and not respecting this channel's main movementVector Symian > i am speaking the truthVector Symian > they are cleverRyuu Rockefeller > then why trolling me and showing off at this channel thenRyuu Rockefeller > ofc they are and i dont give a shit tbhVector Symian > you have a thin definition of trollingRyuu Rockefeller > as long as im speaking in this channel with 100+code alts im a main target..but you keep troling

Feelings were hurt. It was simply impossible to put together a coherent anti-Order strategy. To make matters worse, Senior Specialist Kalynn went AFK--they lost their heavy-hitter.

Suriv Virus > Vector Symian pro-code talk is trollingVector Symian > reallyshaneduce > yepVector Symian > hmmmRyuu Rockefeller > Vector Symian u seem to be the clever codey in here tbhRyuu Rockefeller > playing the "diplo" right nowVector Symian > i seem to be in the wrong channelVector Symian > good byeshaneduce > the several I've talked to fully belive that CCP uses NPC to buy and sell items that if they get rid of all rescorse gathering players that eve will still be the same

With that, Vector left the channel. Ryuu and shaneduce also left the channel in a huff. They concluded that the Anti-Ganking community wouldn't protect them from the Agents of the New Order. They were right. When our Agents set their minds to accomplishing something, nothing can stop them--certainly not a bunch of irate carebears. The good news is, the bot-aspirants don't need to be protected from our Agents; they need to be protected from themselves. If they give up their bot-aspirancy and embrace the Code, all will be well.

Such garbage....AG is trying to help protect new players from griefers and suicide gankers? Are there some loonies? Sure...but for the most part it's just nice PvE players working together to make the game more enjoyable for everyone. I'm proud to help out when I can,

Been logging that channel pretty much since inception and it's a great daily trove of laughter. What happens when you gather hundreds of paranoid people who are unable to spell, use basic grammar or form complete thoughts - then have them all give advice to each other in regards to mechanics they don't understand in the first place. Epic win :P

I was watching this debacle unfold. I actually opened up a chat with this bloke offering my condolences on his poor treatment at the hands of the AG bullies, and offering to show him the side of justice and order. He was polite but strongly believed in fighting on the side of darkness, he really wanted to help the AG lot. I tried to explain how trying to help them, how correcting their terrible understanding of game mechanics (TIL that concord takes 60 secs to arrive) is the quickest way to a ban, but he found out how toxic they are himself by the end of it. They are not reasonable people, facts come second, they care about ideological (im)purity uber alles, above all else.

DJ, i have a new idea for a code contest. I know you offered plex and what not during the venture killing contest, why not offer Plex for Veers podmails or the most killmails on him in a month? I cant afford a plex atm for the contest but ill throw in a couple hundred million no prob. I'm sure others would be willing to sponsor the contest.

Between DJ being permabanned and Gorila being bankrupt, this initiative does not see to be off to an auspicious start. Maybe Cpt Starfox could help? She is at least marginally more useful than the rest of you clowns.

Ehhh, gave up on Veers long ago. He does not actually *do* anything but make random spergy posts. Trust me - just block him in game, then set a ad-block filter to block him here - and your entire experience will benefit.

I'd consider getting something together if he was actually did anything that in any way affected us, but until that time - I can just pop on over to Yahoo Answers! or whatever if I want to read the rants of random white knight internet lawyers :P

Classic DJ...I'd do something....but there is no point. When in fact DJ promised to bring me into "code compliance" and make my PvE playstyle impossible. Result - DJ Banned, Code crying, and Veers keeps on winning.

Yanno Veers, You may be the straw that broke the camels back. How about i create a new corp and fly under the James 315 flag. Corp goal will be to actively hunt and kill Veers. Kinda like what Bill Hicks talked about with Billy Ray Cyrussee : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0JWqIZcyBo

Yes!!! this is the real you, Gorila. But watch as none of these Code cowards will join you. Loyalanon is far too chicken. DJ is banned. I look forward to facing you with my CONCORD allies at my side, Ganker Gorila. This is a victory for CODE, they knew that by getting you into PvP you would eventually join them. I'm happy to keep being the law abiding hero!

Veers, what you fail to understand is I was PVPing when the best part of you was dripping down your moms chin. You want to turn EVE into a theme park like STO and I want NO part of it and if i have to join CODE to make that understood then I'm doing it.

Your no hero Veers. PVP and Ganking is part of the game mechanics I LOVE about EVE yet you cant seem to grasp that concept. Your a self important greedy, little loud mouthed scrub lord and I've had enough of it.

More whining and tears. Are you sure you aren't an alt of Loyalanon. I don't mind strategic ganking in highsec....I do disapprove of the CODE -10 gankfest, and lack of real punishment. And I do disapprove of the sociopathic bonus room behavior that you so adore. And I do disapprove of the Loyalanon rage that you possess in equal measure.

So come hunt me down buddy...I'd love to see it. Better bring a lot of your greenhorn friends. Cuz I'm rich, well tanked, and an elite PvP player, not some third rate has been grumpy old man who is broke and has an ugly avatar.

I'm confident my CONCORD allies will make short work of an over the hill fool like you.

Well Veers I’m actually enjoying your tears. Your limited intelligence is rather amusing after all, and yes you guessed it, I’m actually an Alt of Loyal. lololol Are you Sure you don’t want to claim that I’m actually James too?

I’m curious if you can show me exactly WHERE I’ve said I support the bonus rooms? Our would you like to make more unfounded delusional claims?

"tears" hahahahah. Let me guess you are going to declare victory and retire now? I'm still waiting for this megacorp that is gonna come hunt me down. Have you put your hand out for donations yet?

James is far too calm to be you...he has class and good writing skills. He may be an evil human being, sure, but at least he plays the part smoothly. Unlike Loyal, and unlike you.

And you realize that James supported the bonus rooms, right? He participated in them...he defended them....and he harshly criticized the bans. You are now choosing to fly under his flag. That shows tacit approval for his policies. By definition, that makes you, along with the rest of the CODE fools, a bonus room supporter.

James supported real life harassment and despicable emotional abuse in bonus rooms. Yes, that makes him a thoroughly bad person. He supported erotica1 gving sokhar's wife a panic attack and giggling about it. That is despicable. He is despicable. Code is despicable. And all the people who follow James are despicable.

Oh I have. You are an immoral person who supports real life harassment just like he is. You are even, you are despicable, and you are the lowest of the low. You use Eve to live out your sociopathic fantasies, and to deal with your serious underlying emotional issues.

I never met a non-code-compliant person who failed to entertain me with their delusion. Veers, You will become one of us. You have spent far too long on this website not to join us. And certainly, the crimes of the people that you claim to defend can't slip past your eye. They're the idiots, not us. You know this to be true. And you know it's more fun cleansing them from the universe with fire and scorn than it is living in our shadow all the time. I mean you don't even undock anymore because you're so afraid of us. Time to throw in the Anti-Code towel and become a share-holding member of the New Order.

Veers...seriously. Do you truly shed a tear for the plight of another who was "harrassed" in a coms channel they willingly joined..after willingly handing over their assets because they were greedy. No, you don't. You clain to because for some reason you think it makes you look good and strengthens your "position" to others. You and the other anti-gankers live on the ideals of hatred and discourse toward others. You assume because someone likes to play the villian in a game that they "must" be thay way in rl. Ludicrous. I support Code 100%. I donate isk and buy shares of Code on a regular basis. Does this make me a "picked on in school" or "sociopathic" individual. It absolutely does not. In fact, Mr wanna be, I hold a degree in psychology, structural engineering, architecture, and one in design. You counted that correctly...4 degrees...and on top of that, I am a minority in the Eve universe..you can figure that part out yourself. If I can hack it, so can you..and so can the other whiny cowards that just want to be "left alone". I can tell you one thing with certainty..from a psychological standpoint, based on your rantings here, in game, and on the forums, you are a textbook narcissist. So before you go on trying to place labels on people you don't know and who just want to have fun playing a game...take a good look in the mirror and learn your place. You are neither an asset to the anti-gankers nor yourself. You are the noisy wheel that just needs to be oiled to silence its incessant squealing. With that being said, grow a pair and do what you try to get others to do for you. Fight the good fight if you have the pair to do so..otherwise...stfu and go back to your corner. Hugs and kisses :)

I didn't know about this Highsec Militia blog until now - here is my Yelp review of it:

Terrible color choice, tacky background image, uninteresting content, and no comments section to shiptoast in. Anslo's proveldtariat looked like professional design compared to this. Will not be returning.

"Third, King tried. Even though he knew the Militia was in system, he flew out and tried, wanting to see if the Militia could stop him. And stop him we did"

So a group of people beat one guy, which is exactly what they cry about us doing, yet when they do it it's a victory? Can you say double standards?

"His final effort of the night stands in stark contrast to so many encounters with CODE, where they see the Militia in system, and either refuse to undock - fearing space combat and ship explosions - or flee the system, looking for easier, unprotected targets."

Yup, because Loyal has never blapped targets that were surrounded by anti-spankers. No sir. He always makes his fleet hide in a station. /me looks for a :rollseyes: smiley.