I know this would have to be ratified by the Senate, but this is something to keep an eye on.

11-08-2012, 10:11 AM

HoustonRaven

Won't happen and frankly, really won't have an impact on sales here really.

11-08-2012, 10:18 AM

NCRAVEN

Re: Guns...

Like I said, I know the Senate would have to ratify it, which getting 66 Senators to do , is almost impossible.

It's just something to keep an eye on is all.

11-08-2012, 10:21 AM

JAB1985

Re: Guns...

I dont think were the ones the treaty is really for. More like Russia and other countries to get their shit together. Im not sure why Obama gets such grief about guns. Hes typically been very pro-2nd amendment, just not in the wrong hands, which isnt that what we all want?

The only law i knew he passed regarding guns, allowed them in more areas.

11-08-2012, 10:29 AM

HoustonRaven

Re: Guns...

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAB1985

I dont think were the ones the treaty is really for. More like Russia and other countries to get their shit together. Im not sure why Obama gets such grief about guns. Hes typically been very pro-2nd amendment, just not in the wrong hands, which isnt that what we all want?

The only law i knew he passed regarding guns, allowed them in more areas.

Apathy towards the 2nd Amendment does not equal support towards the 2nd Amendment. If the numbers were on his side, he'd do everything he can to ban guns.

Thankfully, the numbers are not on his side.

And I'd love to see what law he passed that allowed them in more areas. I challenge that 100%.

11-08-2012, 10:30 AM

Dade

Re: Guns...

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAB1985

The only law i knew he passed regarding guns, allowed them in more areas.

Which is why I find it so confusing to hear some people say Obama is gonna take away your guns.

I'm all for gun control (control being out of wrong hands and in responsible ones), but this will never see the light of day.

11-08-2012, 10:32 AM

Dade

Re: Guns...

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

And I'd love to see what law he passed that allowed them in more areas. I challenge that 100%.

A bill that Obama signed in May permits licensed gun owners to bring firearms into national parks and wildlife refuges as long as state law allows it. The new law, which takes effect in February, will replace rules from the Reagan administration that generally require that guns in national parks be locked or stored in a glove compartment or trunk.

11-08-2012, 10:39 AM

NCRAVEN

Re: Guns...

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Apathy towards the 2nd Amendment does not equal support towards the 2nd Amendment. If the numbers were on his side, he'd do everything he can to ban guns.

Thankfully, the numbers are not on his side.

And I'd love to see what law he passed that allowed them in more areas. I challenge that 100%.

+1

11-08-2012, 10:40 AM

HoustonRaven

Re: Guns...

A little persnickety, but touche I suppose.

The law is incredible narrow and a hallow gesture. You cannot bring said gun into ANY building or structure that happen to sit in the park. So if you're a hunter, you still have to risk having the weapon stolen by leaving it in your vehicle, or worse, in a tent, if you ever have to head inside.

This is a kin to when some blue states like Maryland tout "hey, we allow our citizens to carry concealed" because there is a concealed carry law on the books. Meanwhile, they make it so difficult to actually make it happen it still ends up being a defacto ban.

11-08-2012, 10:54 AM

Dade

Re: Guns...

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

A little persnickety, but touche I suppose.

The law is incredible narrow and a hallow gesture. You cannot bring said gun into ANY building or structure that happen to sit in the park. So if you're a hunter, you still have to risk having the weapon stolen by leaving it in your vehicle, or worse, in a tent, if you ever have to head inside.

This is a kin to when some blue states like Maryland tout "hey, we allow our citizens to carry concealed" because there is a concealed carry law on the books. Meanwhile, they make it so difficult to actually make it happen it still ends up being a defacto ban.

I get you. Still, two thing he's done regarding guns has been pro. The other allowing guns to be transported in checked baggage on Amtrak trains.

only laws under obama passed pertaining to guns that i can find. I keep hearing this from conservatives HR and i just dont see anything that supports it. Even if hes "apathetic" thats a good thing coming from a liberal who tend to want more. I really dont see an issue with making it harder to get a gun, or gun owning qualifications. If youre suppose to be able to get one, it shouldnt be that hard to get one.

11-08-2012, 11:39 AM

HoustonRaven

Re: Guns...

How does allowing guns on trains prove your point though?

What percentage of the population actually takes trains AND carries a gun?

A gesture that suits .0000000003% of the population is no gesture at all. I'll give him props when he supports concealed carry.