quote:[quote]Greivis is not far off of those numbers (which admittedly aren't good). Vasquez is over 40% for his career, though.

The numbers I listed were Kidd's 3pt%, not FG%. The last two years in Dallas were slightly above average, the first 3 years were excellent. Kidd has never been a great shooter, but he became a good enough 3pt shooter in Dallas that defenses had to respect that. Vasquez is 29% and 32% from 3. That is poor and below average.

quote:Now, if you want to compare Kidd's first 3 years, Vasquez again compares favorably. Kidd had more assists, but also played considerably more

You really trying to compare Vasquez to future Hall of Famer Jason Kidd? Time to take of the creole blue glasses, bro.

quote:I'm sorry, but who is better AND available?

Not the issue at all. No one with any sense thinks they need to find a new pg right now. All I said was that long term, I do not believe Vasquez is the answer unless he learns how to hit 3s at a good rate.

Yes, I'm comparing them. I don't think he is as good as Kidd, but Kidd is a very good comparison to his game. I started talking about Kidd because you left him out of the PG that had serious flaws and won a championship.

quote:Time to take of the creole blue glasses, bro.

Don't patronize me, sis.

quote:Not the issue at all. No one with any sense thinks they need to find a new pg right now. All I said was that long term, I do not believe Vasquez is the answer unless he learns how to hit 3s at a good rate.

That IS the issue. That is what the thread is about. That is why the thread is stupid. You said Vasquez is a backup with no basis for that statement. I take that to mean that you think that there are 30 PGs in the NBA that are better. Sure, I would love an All-star PG, but there are not 30 of those to go around.

quote:So because there have to be 30 NBA starters at each position, we have to say those are starting caliber players?

Yes. That's not to say that starting means you're starting caliber, either. There have to be 30 starters, though. Thus 30 are starting caliber. In my opinion, his numbers have been solid. I just think he and Gordon could create a damn solid backcourt with typical skill sets in unconventional packages. I'm not opposed to bringing in an upgrade, but until then he is our starter and I will enjoy him being top 5 in assists with a guy shooting even worse at the 2.

The reality is that the man lacks the ability to break down defenses on his own. He is a terrible shooter. He cannot guard anyone that has any speed whatsoever. Nothing personal, just the facts. And for those of you who point to his assists, I would remind you that it takes very little to get an assist in the NBA.