PUTIN GREETS OBAMA WITH SYRIA THREAT - President Obama arrived in Russia today to find the already failing relations with his host in even worse
condition. Russian President Vladimir Putin’s threat to provide his Syrian allies with a missile shield in the event of U.S. airstrikes further
complicates Obama’s flagging effort to win international support for an attack on Damascus. As the Guardian reports, Putin’s warning that an
attack without UN backing would provoke military aid from Russia may drive away the handful of international partners for Obama’s proposed attack.
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I think before it is all said and done, we will look back on this like the Cuban Missle Crisis. The Syrian Missle Crisis will be just as bad, if not
worse. When is this escalation going to end? Who is going to back down first? Obama just needs to let it go, as it's obvious that Putin won't.

Originally posted by Catacomb
I think before it is all said and done, we will look back on this like the Cuban Missle Crisis. The Syrian Missle Crisis will be just as bad, if not
worse. When is this escalation going to end? Who is going to back down first? Obama just needs to let it go, as it's obvious that Putin won't.

Obama is a fool playing against a stone cold ex KGB agent, we will see who blinks first, my guess is it wont be putin.

So the question becomes is Obama stupid enough to not take their threat seriously?

If Putin is serious and it's what I think it is? Then that is game, set and match. We lost before anything began unless it all happens before that
system is in place. Once it is (if it isn't already, covertly and waiting to shock our pilots by a sudden turn-on) then we might as well be planning
a punitive strike against the suburbs of Moscow for all the odds of success we'd maintain.

The S-300/PMU1 is a scary and VERY capable system. It's a tinker toy compared to the 400 and 500 systems the Russians have at Tartus, Syria, by last
reports. If that or an additional system is active? Hell..... A tomahawk won't likely hit what it's meant to get to.

Mixing with nations that can match or, in some areas, exceed our own capabilities and doing it while in the most haphazard and half ass budget
slashing in my living memory? Well...If I wanted to set up a war to not just leave in a bad draw, but outright be DEFEATED in? This is pretty close to
how I'd set that up.

It's widely known that Al-Nusra Front (which is an Al-Qaeda off-shoot) is operating in Syria. It's also the largest group fighting there for the
rebels. For the US government to say that there are only small groups of terrorists in Syria is crazy and idiotic.

Agreed, this is a game changer, like game over. If Obama proceeds with strikes now then this has just become very escalated for sure. Putin has said
that all he needs is evidence the Assad regime was behind the chemical attacks. Weird how that evidence won't be provided, isn't it?

If Putin is serious and it's what I think it is? Then that is game, set and match. We lost before anything began unless it all happens before that
system is in place. Once it is (if it isn't already, covertly and waiting to shock our pilots by a sudden turn-on) then we might as well be planning
a punitive strike against the suburbs of Moscow for all the odds of success we'd maintain.

The S-300/PMU1 is a scary and VERY capable system. It's a tinker toy compared to the 400 and 500 systems the Russians have at Tartus, Syria, by last
reports. If that or an additional system is active? Hell..... A tomahawk won't likely hit what it's meant to get to.

Mixing with nations that can match or, in some areas, exceed our own capabilities and doing it while in the most haphazard and half ass budget
slashing in my living memory? Well...If I wanted to set up a war to not just leave in a bad draw, but outright be DEFEATED in? This is pretty close to
how I'd set that up.

What capabilities are those that the Russian military exceeds ours? Fighting in cold weather?

Indeed. I feel the same way. *IF* we had all this evidence, as they claim, we could have another world famous moment on the UN floor like the Cuban
Missile Crisis unveiling of the overhead photos, following Russian statements to the world that such a thing didn't exist. Well.. they got their
bluff called and enough egg on their face to feed a regiment breakfast.

You'd think Obama would love such a foreign policy coup, as they surely would be. Oh, they can claim secrecy issues for why...but then that holds no
water when they were spewing highly classified information to film makers for a movie recently and the whole planet knows about our intercept
abilities...which supposedly lay at the heart of this "evidence".

He knows the world wouldn't accept what he "has". It's all I can figure here.

If Putin is serious and it's what I think it is? Then that is game, set and match. We lost before anything began unless it all happens before that
system is in place. Once it is (if it isn't already, covertly and waiting to shock our pilots by a sudden turn-on) then we might as well be planning
a punitive strike against the suburbs of Moscow for all the odds of success we'd maintain.

The S-300/PMU1 is a scary and VERY capable system. It's a tinker toy compared to the 400 and 500 systems the Russians have at Tartus, Syria, by last
reports. If that or an additional system is active? Hell..... A tomahawk won't likely hit what it's meant to get to.

Mixing with nations that can match or, in some areas, exceed our own capabilities and doing it while in the most haphazard and half ass budget
slashing in my living memory? Well...If I wanted to set up a war to not just leave in a bad draw, but outright be DEFEATED in? This is pretty close to
how I'd set that up.

What capabilities are those that the Russian military exceeds ours? Fighting in cold weather?

lay off the hyperbole please.

Just because you're swingin' the neatest, latest, greatest newfangled baseball bat in the school yard doesn't necessarily guarantee you're even
gettin' that bat on the ball.

Muse...... Lay off the attack garbage and have some coffee or something. You'll feel better. (Maybe a Snickers bar too) I'm not talking out of my
butt. I've spent a fair number of hours in reports and other material on THIS specific issue, this week, working on a data project to coordinate and
index things like what we're talking about, right here.

The S-400 is specifically designed as not only an AA system, but Anti-Missile defense system. It's part of what forms the outer perimeter defense net
for Moscow itself. That is what is believed to be in place at Tartus to defend the Russian Naval base there if Obama has another OOPS moment like the
Chinese Embassy in Serbia. Remember that little goof?

Like it or don't..I really can't be bothered to care either way. I'm relaying what I know, to the best information currently available outside a
classification level, for what this situation has to deal with. If you don't find that helpful? Sorry..... Can't please everyone.

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