Most christians do NOT know that their god sanctions human sacrifice in the bible and indeed has an instance where it is in fact carried out.

Leviticus 27: 29: If anyone is given for the purpose of being destroyed, he cannot be brought back; he must be put to death.

Exodus 22: 29-30Do not hold back offerings from your granaries or your vats. "You must give me the firstborn of your sons. 30 Do the same with your cattle and your sheep. Let them stay with their mothers for seven days, but give them to me on the eighth day.

Judges 11Jephthat sacrifices his daughter to God

Go read these for yourselves.

In fact, why would Abraham have thought that cutting his son's throat (Genesis 22) was a suitable way to palliate god's bloodthirtiness if the practice was not already in the custom. Abraham never remonstrated with god although he is said to negotiate with god when god wants to drown the people of Sodom and Gomorah. Why did Abraham NOT attempt to negotiate OUT of killing his son? This may suggest that the culture approved of such practices.

Because of the suffering that your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you. Even the most gentle and sensitive man among you will have no compassion on his own brother or the wife he loves or his surviving children, and he will not give to one of them any of the flesh of his children that he is eating. It will be all he has left because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege of all your cities. The most gentle and sensitive woman among you - so sensitive and gentle that she would not venture to touch the ground with the sole of her foot - will begrudge the husband she loves and her own son or daughter the afterbirth from her womb and the children she bears. For she intends to eat them secretly during the siege and in the distress that your enemy will inflict on you in your cities.Lev 26:29

You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters.

Jeremiah 19: 9I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and daughters, and they will eat one another's flesh during the stress of the siege imposed on them by the enemies who seek their lives.

Lamentation 4:10With their own hands compassionate womenhave cooked their own children,who became their foodwhen my people were destroyed.

Ezekiel 5:10Therefore in your midst fathers will eat their children, and children will eat their fathers. I will inflict punishment on you and will scatter all your survivors to the winds.

after eating chocolate ice-cream, marshmallows and almonds, i looked back at the "evidence" for cannibalism in the bible from our resident atheists and realised it was not worth a response.

I asked for EXAMPLES of cannibalism in the bible and all they could produce were instances that were not meant to be taken literarily. Where are the actual examples? surely these accusers shld have been able to find one.

Lol. It does not matter that they are from the Old Testament - the point is that from whichever (OT or NT), we should be able to look into the allegations and discuss/debate these issues intelligently. Have therationa and bawomolo been able to do so apart from the cheap arguments they propound?

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@4Him,

4Him:

Where are the actual examples? surely these accusers shld have been able to find one.

I'm so sorry for these gentlemen, because after ducking from thrad to thread it was quite predictable that they would not be able to enter any debate of their own and see it to a logical end. No be today them begin scoot here and there. Others responsible discussants (even atheists) have been able to soundly sustain their discussions/debates with believers even in this forum. You could imagine if those responsible ones had behaved like the mess we are entertained with from therationa and bawomolo!

Why isn't anyone responding on this one? I thought the answers were in the bible

The answers have been given earlier in other Nairaland threads and other websites - if only you would redeem your integrity by not trying to sound smart as if you suddenly have put your thinking to work!

therationa:

C'mon guys. This thread is going stale. Are you guys/gals avoiding it?

WHY have YOU been avoiding the invitations offered you several times to stand and defend some of your own assumptions? Perhaps the reason why no one initially even bothered saying anything here is because they do not wish to be entertained by recycled and already stale arguments!

therationa:

Any christians brave enough to defend human sacrifice and cannibalism in their bible?

Already defended, so please stay on course. Do you care to honour my invitation to defend your own assumptions wher I have offered that invitation several times?

therationa:

CANNIBALISM IN THE BIBLE;

Deuteronomy 28:53-57 Lev 26:29

You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters.

Jeremiah 19: 9

Lamentation 4:10

Ezekiel 5:10

Also see;2 Kings 6:26-29

Can I rest my case now?

Right. Now see the following links where these allegations have been addressed:

You can see that all you have done here is simply change the topic of the thread/discussion from "Cannibalism in the Bible" (Horus) to "Human Sacrifice In The Bible" (therationa). Do you see why I earlier hinted that you've perfected the art of[i] plagiarism[/i] by harvesting these arguments and dressing them up as your own?

Now you can either indeed rest your otiose arguments; or come forward and enter into a discussion where you can hold your own assumptions and defend your misgivings to a logical end. Do you care to do so?

after eating chocolate ice-cream, marshmallows and almonds, i looked back at the "evidence" for cannibalism in the bible from our resident atheists and realised it was not worth a response.

I asked for EXAMPLES of cannibalism in the bible and all they could produce were instances that were not meant to be taken literarily. Where are the actual examples? surely these accusers shld have been able to find one.

How do you know there were not meant to be taken literally? The context does not say so. Granted, most of the text does not say it happened, as it is reported in the future. But that is ducking the point. This is GOD saying HE will make people eat other people.

Is this acceptable behaviour? If you had found such a text in the koran of the Aztec holy book what would have been your opinion?

But Lamentations 4:10, actually reports it as having happened. Check it out.

The answers have been given earlier in other Nairaland threads and other websites - if only you would redeem your integrity by not trying to sound smart as if you suddenly have put your thinking to work!

WHY have YOU been avoiding the invitations offered you several times to stand and defend some of your own assumptions? Perhaps the reason why no one initially even bothered saying anything here is because they do not wish to be entertained by recycled and already stale arguments!

Already defended, so please stay on course. Do you care to honour my invitation to defend your own assumptions wher I have offered that invitation several times?

Right. Now see the following links where these allegations have been addressed:

You can see that all you have done here is simply change the topic of the thread/discussion from "Cannibalism in the Bible" (Horus) to "Human Sacrifice In The Bible" (therationa). Do you see why I earlier hinted that you've perfected the art of[i] plagiarism[/i] by harvesting these arguments and dressing them up as your own?

Now you can either indeed rest your otiose arguments; or come forward and enter into a discussion where you can hold your own assumptions and defend your misgivings to a logical end. Do you care to do so?

No GOOD god would prescribe such awful acts onto his children, however sinful they may be. This is simply preprostrous that you admit that a due punishment for being sinful.

BTW, STOP accusing me of plagiarism. Anyone who READS the bible should know this stuff , and I spent a lot of time reading the bible as a kid. To show you that I know them does not make it plagiarism, does it. There are many millions of people out there who are also aware of the MONSTROSITY of the bible but would rather stay quiet. I just don't stay mouth shut.

No GOOD god would prescribe such awful acts onto his children, however sinful they may be. This is simply preprostrous that you admit that a due punishment for being sinful.

It is not a question of whether a "god" is good or bad - it was about the joke of your inability to debate issues logically.

Where do you actually stand? That God does not exist (atheism); or that he does exist (theism/deism); or that you simply are confused about your position (perplexity). You cannot be jumping inconsistently from one idea to the other, as doing such potends you as a very unintellectual discussant.

therationa:

BTW, STOP accusing me of plagiarism.

I have a right to make that allegation as many times I see it so. UNTIL you stop the rascal and dishonest pretences, I shall continue to so point it out.

therationa:

Anyone who READS the bible should know this stuff , and I spent a lot of time reading the bible as a kid.

Anyone with a functional brain woyuld know that you did not bring out these issues from your personal effort.

therationa:

To show you that I know them does not make it plagiarism, does it.

No, it does not. But to follow the same trend and precisely the same references should make us ask you what you are up to - and until your come clean, I don't see what you're complaining about. I'm persuaded that's what you did; you're not so persuaded. Good. Just be rational enough to demonstrate that you are above such suspicion, and when I see it, then you'll read me.

therationa:

There are many millions of people out there who are also aware of the MONSTROSITY of the bible but would rather stay quiet. I just don't stay mouth shut.

There are many more millions who know that the Bible is no threat to you - and the earlier you shut your mouth about such otiose remarks and open it with common sense, the happier you'd be as a person.

And no, that's not a fatwa - rather, it's a call to make you think and stop pretending to sound smart.

But Lamentations 4:10, actually reports it as having happened. Check it out.

Lamentations does not assume that it has happened literally - anyone with a clear thinking would understand that Lamentations is more a book set in poetry in such expressions. It is just as much as as to disingenuously allege that Lamentations 2:2 is lietral when it says that: "The Lord hath swallowed up all the habitations of Jacob" - does that sound literal to you?

Now, the question of Lamentations 4:10. If you're seeking a passage where it does teach in the Bible that people have eaten their own flesh, please look at 2 Kings 6:29 - "So we boiled my son, and did eat him".

Does God recommend or command them to do this as part of their worship or devotion to Him? That is the question I have asked so many people - and never did get a sensible answer other than the rascal and irrational noise they make to force that idea in accusation against God and the Bible.

What does it mean? I have answered the question in the links I provided earlier; and just incase you only were too hot-headed to sanely read things through calmly, I could again answer the question.

The people had a choice to either obey God's injunctions as attested in the LAW unto them; or they would witness the effects of disobedience to His commandments. This is what is stated in Deuteronomy 28:1 as a warning - "And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that the LORD thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth" - and we are sure the people rather would look forward to such a moment of glory which they would enjoy for the rest of their lives.

But what about the consequences of their disobedience? Here, my dear therationa, may I ask you what your "god" would have recommended? It doesn't have to be a civil or good "god", just simply tell us what it would have recommended.

Here is an odd and tragic story, and what is odd about it is that God seems to approve of it too. Here a man named Jephthah makes an odd vow to kill his own daughter in exchange for victory in battle, and God actually accepts his proposal! But before you read it, keep something in mind. Christians will say that this was Jephthah's fault and that God didn't command him to make his vow. However God clearly indicated his APPROVAL and ACCEPTANCE of the vow when he gave Jephthah victory over the Ammonites, which is what he asked God to do in exchange for his "sacrifice"! In other words, God agreed, accepted and approved this!

Judges 11:29-39 (English-NIV)

29

Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah. He crossed Gilead and Manasseh, passed through Mizpah of Gilead, and from there he advanced against the Ammonites.

30

And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD: "If you give the Ammonites into my hands,

31

whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the LORD's, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering."

32

Then Jephthah went over to fight the Ammonites, and the LORD gave them into his hands.

33

He devastated twenty towns from Aroer to the vicinity of Minnith, as far as Abel Keramim. Thus Israel subdued Ammon.

34

When Jephthah returned to his home in Mizpah, who should come out to meet him but his daughter, dancing to the sound of tambourines! She was an only child. Except for her he had neither son nor daughter.

35

When he saw her, he tore his clothes and cried, "Oh! My daughter! You have made me miserable and wretched, because I have made a vow to the LORD that I cannot break."

36

"My father," she replied, "you have given your word to the LORD. Do to me just as you promised, now that the LORD has avenged you of your enemies, the Ammonites.

37

But grant me this one request," she said. "Give me two months to roam the hills and weep with my friends, because I will never marry."

38

"You may go," he said. And he let her go for two months. She and the girls went into the hills and wept because she would never marry.

39

After the two months, she returned to her father and he did to her as he had vowed. And she was a virgin. From this comes the Israelite custom