Islamists on Welfare: Paid to Plot the West’s Demise

Even worse, many well-known Islamic radicals are on the dole. The irony of the situation is inescapable: their parasitical behavior obliges governments, through taxpayers, to subsidize their adopted country’s own destruction.

For example, one of England’s most notorious Muslim leaders, hate preacher and Islamic law proponent Anjem Choudary, has boasted about receiving £25,000 a year in benefits, explaining that the money “belongs to Allah.” Membership in Choudary’s Islam4UK group was criminalized after he threatened to lead 500 followers on a highly provocative “anti-war” march, “carrying empty coffins to mark Muslims ‘mercilessly murdered’ in Iraq and Afghanistan.” Choudary even paid the £50 fine brought down against Emdadur Choudhury (no relation) for burning poppies while disrupting somber Remembrance Day services last year. It was revealed that Emdadur Choudhury, who has been dubbed “the designer label extremist” for his taste in Western clothes, lives in “a free council flat and [receives] almost £800 a month [in] state handouts.”

Then there is Abdul Rahman Saleem, who once served prison time for inciting racial hatred during London riots against the Danish Muhammad cartoons. He now stands accused of “fiddling the benefits system by working while claiming jobseekers’ allowance.” A “friend”-turned-informant told the Daily Mail, “He likes to say ‘Allah provides’ — but in reality it is the state he seems to despise so much that makes the provisions for him. The Child Support Agency claim[s] there is nothing they can do to make him pay for his children because he is in receipt of jobseekers’ allowance.”

Meanwhile, five Muslim men convicted of harassment for shouting insults during a 2009 homecoming parade for British soldiers nevertheless went unpunished, declaring that taxpayers would foot the bill for court costs because they were on welfare.

Moreover, it was revealed last year that the council house occupied by the wife and eight children of England’s most infamous convicted hate preacher, the hook-handed Abu Hamza, received a £40,000 “makeover paid for by taxpayers.” His children are British-born, the Daily Mail reported, “meaning they are entitled to support from the state, which would continue even if Hamza is extradited.” This support has included close to £700 per week in rent, benefits, and allowances.

Not even revelations that some actual terrorists collect welfare payments before and after they commit their crimes have prompted sweeping reforms of the benefits system.

Two weeks after the July 7, 2005, bombings in London, four explosions disrupted the city’s public transportation system once more. (Fortunately, only one injury was reported.) British authorities subsequently discovered that the Muslim radicals involved in the attack had collected more than £165,000 in benefits, aided by multiple addresses and national insurance numbers. Two of them originally won asylum in Britain by using forged passports and false names.

Abu Qatada, sometimes referred to as “Osama bin Laden’s ambassador in Europe,” was found guilty of plotting to plant bombs during millennium celebrations in Jordan. After his release from prison in 2008, he was granted £150 a week in “incapacity benefits” for a bad back — despite later being photographed wearing a knapsack and carrying groceries on the anniversary of the July 7 London bombings. Along with publishing that photo, the Telegraph revealed that “Qatada’s family is understood to be claiming around £47,000 a year in benefits — £500 a week in child benefits for the four of his five children under 18, £210 for income support, £150 for incapacity benefit, £45 in council tax benefit — along with a council home worth around £800,000.”

Similar situations have occurred in Australia. When Abdul Nacer Benbrika stood trial on terrorism charges, it emerged that the illegal Algerian immigrant and father of seven, who had been ordered deported three times, “never worked a day” in 19 years and “has cost us millions” in welfare payments, “baby bonus” checks, and other benefits, in the words of one broadcaster.

Furthermore, Australian David Hicks brazenly declared his plan to go on the dole as soon as he was released from prison. An unrepentant would-be “martyr,” Hicks trained with al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and claims to have met Osama bin Laden 20 times. His father told the Herald Sun in 2007, “He’s an Australian citizen. He has a right to that sort of thing.”

One of Norway’s most notorious welfare recipients is also a convicted terrorist: Mullah Krekar, who has been linked to bombings in Madrid and Iraq.

Meanwhile, Canada’s most famous welfare recipients — Muslim or otherwise — remain the Khadrs. Confessed war criminal Omar Khadr still resides in Guantanamo Bay, having pleaded guilty to killing a U.S. soldier in Afghanistan in 2002. However, his extended family members, all of whom share his radical views, continue to live on welfare in a Toronto suburb.

Despite the public outrage provoked by the Toronto Sun in 2008, little evidence suggests that the situation has improved in Canada. In early 2011, the Mounties charged Ahmad El-Akhal, a Quebec immigration consultant, with “providing Canadian citizenship documents to hundreds of people in the Middle East so they could collect benefits and tax refunds” to the tune of $500,000. Adding an original twist on the venerable scam, none of the individuals receiving benefits actually lived in Canada. According to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, the scheme had been going on since 1999.

This author contacted the officials originally quoted in that Toronto Sun report to ask what is being done about welfare abuse by Muslims. The office of Rob Ford, who is now Toronto mayor, never replied to inquiries. Just one individual, a spokesperson for the Ministry of Community and Social Services, responded — but only with a boilerplate email. Rebecca MacKenzie explained that the ministry is “not able to provide comment on specific cases due to privacy concerns,” adding that they “take allegations of fraud very seriously.”

Seriousness is long overdue. As an Islamist Watch blog post from 2009 put it, “Only one adjective properly describes a government that funds those who seek its destruction: suicidal.”

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Islam breeds nothing but in-productivity, oppression and mindless violence. Just look at their counties.

Every accomplishment they claim to be Islamic was either, stolen, built with other people’s labour or bought with our oil money. If anything positive was produced by a muslim it was in-spite of islam, not because of it.

Our governments may have been dumb enough to pay you your jizya in the past but the leaders of Germany, France and England beginning to recognize you for the parasites that you are. Soon the West will adopt a page from the muslim “tolerance” play book and create an environment that is so inhospitable to islam that the muslims already here will either convert or leave.

Of course… it’s that old saw that goes something like this, “non-skilled workers make odd bedfellows when they are comprised of those on welfare and are entirely sane, sound of body and have set some goals in life and those who by profession are liberal politicians who are insane, sound of body but have no goals set. In this way the unskilled worker has access to a pol and can keep him jiggling at the end of his pole at all hours of the night while both enjoy the fruits of their labors…..”

Just waiting for the thousands of so-called ‘moderate’ muslims to start shouting that “you cannot blame the majority for the behaviour of a few”
to which I should like to reply (as prophylaxes) why ever not?
You lot do!

i will concede that hypothetically there may be a muslim somewhere paying taxes. there may also somewhere be a “peaceful muslim” there may even be a muslim somewhere in our country that doesnt wish to destroy our government, and replace it with an even greater tyranny that enforces sharia. but this hypothetical “good” muslim is way, way, overbalanced with the standard, mainstream, faithful muslim, that hates america, infests the welfare roles of the country he has chosen to destroy, and fervently wishes to kill or enslave us pathetic stupid infidels. i cannot think of even one reason to allow even one muslim in our country, allow even one muslim on the welfare roles, or to refrain from sending all of the muslim invaders to a country they dont hate.

So our homegrown culture dictates that ordinary Canadians, Swedes, Norwegians, Brits, all born in their respective countries, are assigned to tax-paying roles for 30 or 40 years before the state returns some of their money via old age security benefits, while newly arrived foreigners are allocated unearned money after Day One?!

Think about this pathetic practice when passing through a supermarket check-out line when the cashier standing behind the counter earning a paltry 8 or 9 dollars per hour while bagging groceries for foreign welfare cheats who probably receive that amount and more…. for simply breathing our air.

We’ve gone off the rails here, and I declare we’ve gone mad to support this perverse inequality of the “work ethic”.

Why….I’ve never been able to recall a single instance wherein a good lefty would fail to stand toe to toe with an illegal and feed from the same public trough while each contemplating within himself how they might expand their fair share of the other fellow’s stuff. If it weren’t so calamitous it would be laughable…. truth be known this is fast becoming a society of secularists and globalists who just do not see the bigger picture than that comedic notion I opened with…. they fail to see that their own place and their own stuff is ever much at risk as the genuine articles we hold dear and that is the intangible, the life we share aside from our physical possessions and comprise our families securities as protected by the greatest document on the face of the earth, i.e. The United States Constitution and the rule of law which it has authored for our mutual fortunes be that strings of gold and silver or a thread of the spirit that feeds the soul that seeks out truth…and discovers some wisdoms (e.g., “the man that does not work does not eat”).

It was at least 6 years ago that I saw (on tape) one of Britain’s radical imams instructing his flock that collapsing the British economic system through increasing welfare demands was an integral part of soft jihad.

An intentional strategy.

These are the same guys who preach that Muslims must continue to isolate themselves from the surrounding culture.

Combine such strategies with the relative birth rates of Muslims (high) and native Europeans (low), and it’s not hard to believe Bernard Lewis’ prediction that Europe will be completely Islamic by the end of this century.

Suicidal? Duh. When a government can’t find a way to deny benefits to those living OUTSIDE the country or those that preach to warriors fighting to destroy it there is NO HOPE for survival. Imagine for a moment: All the benefits that are granted these enemies of the state, as guaranteed by the welfare bozos, what if every citizen were guaranteed the same through tax credits? It would at least be totally equal and spur the economy. The only downside would be that the government would continue to borrow to pay our enemies when the tax receipts were reduced.

I have read you and I find that I must take pause at what you’ve espoused: sound like virtual OBAMANOMICS…. I mean, isn’t that precisely what he and his czars are doing all the time – their mishmash, helter-skelter economics equals disaster because their schemes are not economics at all (ever take a course in Business Mathematics…even a basic course?). Contrarily I am almost certain their master scheme is indeed to bring this country’s economic ability to sustain itself to a grinding halt and once all of us low-ranking citizenry have discovered ourselves slaves to that master money printer and his czar-driven power brokers he will of a sudden announce a way in which we can all redeem ourselves… that would be to agree to enable him to do away with our Constitutional Republic and cede to them (him primarily) all our rights that he will quite naturally replace with privileges for a select group who support his rise to full tyrant…. need more of this …. just keep following that horse’s tail that you think is attached to a real horse and you will ultimately find yourself up against a brick wall upon which the games-man has plastered the paper trail you’ve followed all along… it “ain’t no horse there” just his not-so-transparent image of a mule laughing at you.

If this is all true then it is very good work to assemble it all and present it to the public.

The problem is that, in reality, what can be done and what will be done is, in truth, probably nothing.

Like America, Great Britain and Europe are financing, aiding and abetting in their own destruction and their politicians are clueless as to any larger vision of what this means for their countries and with no sense of any solidarity with their own countries and cultures. It is like they are not only divorced from their cultures but in some manner hostile to them.

I don’t get this and never will. The West is insane to allow immigration because it has no measurable benefits to the host countries and quite a lot of measurable harm. In fact, the greatest purveyors of anti-immigrant sentiments in the West are the West’s own immigration policies and attendant welfare systems together with crime statistics; in other words, reality.

People in the West just don’t understand the dog eat dog mentalities endemic in the Third World that justify nearly any sort of behavior when it comes to fraud against any entity perceived as having money whether that is their own gov’t, a Western one or a tourist. Within Third World countries, it is the most common thing for someone like a tourist to be looked at as a big dollar sign walking down the street rather than a human being.

Bringing people from the Third World into the West is a fox in the chicken coop and in this sense certain sectors of Western gov’t's are all too happy to do the inviting and plucking which is a point of view I will not understand til I die. And I haven’t even mentioned the terrorism. Why are Western gov’t's giving away their treasure, security and cultures – why?

Sure, why not spread radical Islam on the backs of those western multicuturalist fools. Just another example of how multicuturalism has failed both in Western Europe and in Canada. Is this as bad here in the United States? Who knows. There are growing Islamic communities here in America, so somebody will have to analyze all of the federal, state, and local benefits that are being poured into those neighborhoods. My feeling is that it isn’t as bad as Europe and Canada, simply because they are built on the welfare state. But here in America, the benefits are not nearly as generous as they are in Europe and Canada. Then again, Obama isn’t finished destroying this country yet, so we may still reach European levels of the welfare state. Just another reason to vote Obama out of office in 2012.

It is just as bad in the U.S, if not worse.Due to the immigrants from Mexico(24m),muslims(7m) and the 3rd generation of African-Americans living on our social services there have been 11 hospitals close (bankrupt because of non payment) 18-24 million ppl are on food stamps,there is a shortage of section 8 housing and church funds are drained of food supplies and utility bill $’s.
A Medicare fraud ring was busted in FL after 1.2 billion was funneled to muslim countries.
Food stamp fraud -where a store gives card holder 1/2 the value in cash then collects 100% from gov is on the rise.A muslim convience store owner here stole $1.5 million and was caught sending it to Jordan.
MI,IL,GA,FL,WA,MO,NY,NJ,AZ,TX,CA and TN all have large muslim groups now.

the really frightening fact is that treasonous and anti american as our current saviour in the white house is, he really isnt that much different from previous occupants, who also declared that islam is “peaceful”, promoted islamic immigration, and promoted illegal immigration all varieties.

it isnt american society that is so much at fault in our national suicide by immigration, but rather a criminal cabal of powerful liberals, traitorous government, and treasonous media. if the subject were put to a vote, immigration would be stopped. it wont be put to a vote until the pro-immigration criminals have a majority.

It is the choice of governments to choose to slash the welfare payments to any able-bodied man or woman. It is simple enough to ‘discourage’ those who tend to do ‘group charity’.
But why should they be forced off of welfare? They are many hidden benefits to them remaining where they are. One major problem with Islam is the notion that they are Superior to all others. This ingrained notion is the cause of much trouble to western lands. It needs to be knocked out of their heads.
What better way could this be accomplished than by the muslim themselves. They have basically chosen dhimmi status by way of welfare. This will plague them into following generations of dhimmitude. Thereby one of the major problem of dealing with muslims, is solved.
I am of the opinion that welfare is probably the cheapest way for them to learn the are not superior to all others. Their chosen reduced status is definitely a benefit to all others.
Charity, first it revives you; then it slays you.
The slaying part will catch up with them soon enough. It might even make them tolerable to live with. And it is a status of their own making.

I disagree. It is we, non-Muslims, who are being made into dhimmis. Forced to pay jizya. Non-Muslims forced to finance Muslims whose goal as commanded by the Koran — for Muslims who follow their religion — is the cruel conquest of all nations and peoples and subjugation under extremely cruel Islamic sharia law where females are treated as inferior and defenseless non-Muslims have NO human rights.

In Muslim countries, non-Muslims live in daily fear. Non-Muslim girls, Christians, Hindus and Sikhs, are kidnapped, violently converted to Islam and raped/married to older adult males. The mainstream media is silent about all the Muslim attacks that are perpetrated against non-Muslim innocents. The thousands forced to flee for their lives.

The main problem with this theory is that in Muslim countries, Dhimmis are often required to pay special taxes or fees to Muslims. In the West, the Dhimmis in government provide special tax and fee money to Muslims without even being forced to do so! And I would imagine that many of these immigrants find ways to make extra money without paying taxes to the Dhimmis.

Additionally, are you sure that a secret feeling of inferiority (sometimes manifested as an expectation for superior treatment) is not already at the root of much Muslim rage? The protests demanding the institution of Sharia law, etc. in the U.K. and elsewhere certainly don’t seem like a good sign to me that welfare makes Muslim immigrants more docile.

you are 100% wrong. in a slave-master relationship, the slave does the work, and the master gets the benefits. in the welfare equasion, the recipient is the master, and the taxpayer is the slave. all we do by giving muslims welfare benefits is reinforce their opinion that we are slaves, and they are masters. ignore that at your peril. you are begging to be a slave, and muslims are more than willing to oblige you.

Our mouth-breathing under-educated public brought this on themselves by expecting a free lunch and later expecting to get paid to eat it — paid of course by their Social Engineer pols from their Ponzi scheme inflated profits.

That the final step should be our worst enemies crawling out of the pit to nourish themselves with the scraps of our ruined system should not surprise you. But evidently it does . . . .

There’s a term in the koran for infidels living under islam to pay for the pleasure of not being killed or forced to convert . . jizya. The tax that mohammed created to let muslims live by means of non muslims. This is just Western multicultural societies paying the tax without giving up the majority status to the muslims.

This is why you have all those non-muslim foreigners working in muslim countries, because the muslims don’t think they need to work if there are infidels working to support them. “Allah provides”.

Here is my question: how to get and keep these folks off the welfare rolls? I think this is a stickier wicket than assumed…. I would very much appreciate practical comments from the PJ readers. Especially ones that are practical and ACHIEVABLE in a constitutional republic.

Here, at least, is a way to prevent any increase in the number of muslims being added to the welfare roles as well as a few suggestions to keep us safer as well. It’s an editorial I submitted to the WSJ, but they chose not to print due to their policy of kowtowing to the military-industrial complex as well as their lust for cheap labor from south of the border:

The politicos tell us if we don’t keep fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, that al-Qaeda will take over these countries and turn them into training grounds for terrorists. They would then presumably come here and kill more of us like they did on 9/11.
A more sensible solution might be to simply stop granting visas to al-Qaeda operatives to come to America in the first place. All nineteen of the 9/11 terrorists and the underwear bomber had government-issued visas. How would they have gotten here without them? Our east and west coasts are protected by vast oceans, and we can protect our north and south by bringing the troops home and stationing them on those borders.
Some concerns with this plan are:
1) How do we know who to refuse visas to?
The answer is anyone that is an Arab Muslim. This will involve some racial and ethnic profiling, which members of some political groups (that aren’t shipping out to a war in the Middle East) may find more horrific than war. The moratorium on Arab Muslim visas can be lifted just as soon as the jihad is over.
2) If our troops secure the borders, how will nannies and gardeners from Mexico be able to come to America for a better life?
They will have to enter the U.S. legally by filling out an immigration application. This policy change will upset the political groups that fail to understand that there is nothing wrong with Mexico that the Mexicans can’t fix themselves.
3) What about terror cells already in the United States?
Sending more troops to the Middle East won’t get rid of them. An added plus is if Homeland Security does its job, we can eventually disband the TSA and not have to be groped anymore at the airport.
4) If we pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan, won’t it be taken over by al-Qaeda?
Maybe, but since the President announced our withdrawal timeline, al-Qaeda operatives will just hide in the mountains or get some R&R in Iran until we leave and then take over anyway. We can’t save Iraq and Afghanistan unless we’re prepared to stay there indefinitely, or to neutralize Iran.
5) Americans want Osama bin Laden’s head. What about our revenge?
Give it up. Osama’s head isn’t worth the life of one more American soldier. Besides, the spread of Islam along with its militant faction is a numbers game we can’t win. We should cut our losses now and concentrate on protecting our homeland.

Please consider this politically incorrect but more cost-effective and practical alternative to war, and bring it up with your congressman.

It is a privilege for all, not just those of us born here, to live in North America. This continent (at least the northern two-thirds) has an abundance of natural resources unseen anywhere else in the world. The place is long-term self-sufficient, including having a lock on the world’s largest source of its most important commodity: fresh water. We ought to be protecting every aspect of it with all our might.

Those who wish to come here from elsewhere to live, prosper and contribute not only must show their gratitude for the opportunity but also must face the most serious consequences for sedition. The penalty for that kind of treachery has to be expulsion.

Adherents and supporters of political systems that are detrimental to our way of life cannot be anymore welcome than serious disease. Slam the immigration door to those who seek to destroy this place from within and return undesirables to their country of origin (once). Those who refuse to stay gone need to be sent away permanently.

Prevention is always better than cure. Our military should be constantly on guard and well funded, prepared to annihilate any enemy, collateral damage be damned. A small number of examples made of troublesome countries or groups would serve as all the deterrent necessary. Word as bond. Not threats, promises.

My late father was an immigrant, a Jew from Syria. He served briefly with the US Army in WW II before becoming a citizen. When he brought his mother over some years later, it was entirely at his expense. So too was the support she required over the years. She never took a penny from the government. Yet today immigrants – Muslims especially – seem to expect so much.

US welfare laws have changed dramatically over the years, often in response to decisions by activist judges, like those eliminating residency requirements. That of course has driven up welfare expenditures. But EU countries, whose socialist ethos runs to their core, have gone completely wacko. They let their compassionate hearts overrule their heads. The end result is just as predicted by a Talmudic maxim. “Those who are compassionate to the cruel will, in the end, act with cruelty to those deserving of compassion.”

In Europe, a significant percentage of the initial middle-eastern/Muslim immigrant population moved to Europe because of 20th century decolonialization, to escape violence at home, and to fill low-wage, low-skilled jobs Euros wouldn’t do. (Sound familiar anyone?)

Once Europe went post-war socialist, they extended entitlements to citizens, then long-term non-citizen immigrants, then new immigrants – with very few limitations or qualifications. (Again, sound familiar?)

The whole process was accelerated by the formation and growing power of the very socialist EU.

We would do well to learn this lesson vicariously, but I think your Talmudic maxim is likely to become all too true.

I am very much aware of the treatment of non-muslims in their lands. The whole point of their treatment of others is not about the money. It is nice, but as all non-muslims are kept in a state of perpetual poverty, there is not much to be had money-wise.
It is all about their enforced understanding that they are sub-human and not entitled to the status of superior muslims. That’s what it is about. This is something taught to muslims from birth. So when they come here they foolishly think that being on welfare is some kind of status. They think that leeches are above the crowd. But here, things are quite the reverse. A welfare bum is just that and always has been. LOL LOL

Their is some justice in this world, I tell you. They have actually chosen all by themselves to be dhimmins. It’s a beautiful turn around.
And, keep in mind it is the very, very, cheapest way for them to lose status. Only in Europe do you get lavish payments from the government. In North America one could never get much more than meager. Do you not think they deserve it?

you are completely deluded. if american welfare benefits are so pathetically inadequate, why are so many so eager to come here and accept them? if we offered welfare and noone accepted it, then it might be inadequate. it would also be about right. i suggest you get your clitorrectomy now, when you can demand anesthesia. you wont like it they way your muslim friends do it. you might also try out being a slave to a disgusting old muslim pervert for a year or two before you sign up permanently. there is an interesting movie you should watch. it is called “osama”, and no, it is not about your buddy bin ladin. it was made before osama was a household name.

This is a very informative piece of writing, but what amazes me is how we, the public, and moreover the state tolerate this travesty!! How can we pay out to those who in all likelihood have paid sweet FA into the system?? These muslim immigrants bring nothing, and are parasites who intend to destroy our culture. And citizenship is another farce that could be discussed ad naseum. I just hope we can wake up and take back our society for ourselves before it really becomes too late, and we have been outbred by our Islamic ememies at our own expense

Pfff. What, and the only crazy subversise cult that does this sort of thing is Islam?

My sister-in-law has chronic health problems and receives WIC for her children from the state of Ohio. She and her husband are traditionalist Catholics who are opposed to birth control. (He is a Caucasian, she an East Asian adopted in early childhood from Asia by a Caucasian family in the United States.) They married three years ago. They had two children in two years and are expecting their third in August (against medical advice), and are far from done. A mutual friend expects that they could easily end up with eight, maybe more. My brother himself says they will have “as many as God gives us.”

The rest of my family think they are crazy. My sister-in-law does not work; my brother keeps body and soul together as a teacher at a small charter school and has no hope in the foreseeable future of being able to afford to feed and clothe the huge family they’re aiming for without government assistance. Naturally, the taxpayers in my family will be picking their tab anyway.

That’s just an example from my own life; I’ll spare comment on welfare fraud among (say) fundamentalist Mormons in North America. Why are government subsidies to crazy cultists no sensible person would give a penny to if they had a choice only an outrage when the money goes to Muslims?

I agree with your observation and many were concerned about such things here in the U.S. years ago and it was dealt with in sweeping changes by Clinton and many states. It still exists and I would like to see it ended completely.

However, we are now seeing a new dimension of this type of activity associated with some violent and subversive immigrant ideologues who, rather than having their citizenship revoked and deported, are financially subsidized by the very cultures they wish to oppose and these people who use expressions of violence are overwhelmingly muslim.

This is not a fault of proportion and perception on our part but a moral failure on the part of some Islamic immigrants. Don’t chastise the messenger or add up apples and oranges hoping for pure orange juice.

@James May – it is hard to comprehend- i’m native born red blood American in KANSAS, want you to know that the idiots you don’t understand all are libs & fools who don’t live in fly-over country. It is crazy, but how on earth do we get thru to these fools?? They say a lib is just a conservative that hasn’t been mugged yet, so maybe we just need to mug them until they come to their senses and begin using their brains (if they have any)?? My friends don’t think this way, but hey, we are just the suckers living in the Midwest and paying THEIR SALARIES. They live on the coasts, and plot our demise daily actively but also inadvertently. i just AVOID LIKE HE!! any businesses i know are foreign-owned, and am ready to take to arms when it comes – and it WILL COME.

There’s probably something to what you say about the mugging part. Some people simply cannot seem to envision danger as anything but an abstract concept.

You get the feeling that before World War II they would’ve been saying, “A World War! Don’t make me laugh.”

When I watched “The King’s Speech” recently I was thinking, “Wow, there were no moronic muslims and Third World immigrants hating on the country and everyone was kinda on the same page. No matter what you think about the English they had a great deal of common sense back then and resolve too – now they have neither and nor do we.

what? you oppose immigration? RACIST!!
yes we paying JIHADIST to undermine our nation, or more properly our pols have sold us out
we are commiting group suicide and anyone who opposes that will be put in the public square in stocks.

Welfare fraud is tip of the iceberg folks-
a thousand more scams are ongoing- illegal cigarette sales, Medicare fraud, fake charities and foundations, school loans, lawfare, and more

and Linda is correct- this is purposeful, planned,intended to destroy us

For sure welfare is the tip of the iceberg. And a very important tip for their diminished status. And necessary to help them realise there is nothing superior about them.
The rest of the illegal activities they have chosen will put them further into limited status. Does anyone actually ‘recoginise’ a criminal as superior in anything? Of course not. They are more or less the ‘waste’ of society.
Is not eventually have to face the reality of their chosen dhimmi status a necessary beginning to humility? And they sure do need a good does of it. It might even be Providence that in a very strange way they have chosen to lower themselves to street beggars and leeches.

“Qatada’s family is understood to be claiming around £47,000 a year in benefits — £500 a week in child benefits for the four of his five children under 18, £210 for income support, £150 for incapacity benefit, £45 in council tax benefit — along with a council home worth around £800,000.”

@waterwillows: I don’t see how living in a 800,000 pound home ($1,291,283.09 US dollars) or getting 47,000 pounds annual income($75,862.88 US dollars) makes someone diminished or keeps them in this “beggar” status you seem to think they are being reliquished to.

You assume that these people have some sort of appreciation of a work ethic and wish to contribute to modern society. To them leeching off the state is not shameful, especially if they think that their full time JOB is to actively work toward the destruction of these western societies.

By being on the public dole, their time is freed up to agitate, without the day to day distraction of having to make a living, for the destruction of the very country that provides their benefits.

The welfare state has effectively created government jobs titled “terrorist facilitators & terrorist instigators” within their own borders and is paying them a salary (plus providing luxurious housing in some cases) to keep up their “good work”.

Would someone please explain to waterwillows that she’s all wet. Muslims do not judge themselves by our standards so being paid not to work makes them feel superior to workers and the damn fools who take money from workers and give it to them.

Here in America we have our own problems of being invaded by millions of Mexicans coming across our porous southern border. Where else in the world could a country send 30,000,000 illegal immigrants over the border and the intruders are completely cared for. We now educate them, give them healthcare, make their babies automatic citizens, give them housing, food stamps and work. Oh and now we’re speaking their language in all facets of our lives. Not to mention the fact that our prisons are overloaded with illegals all on our tax dollars. So why not support a bunch of Muslims too? Let it run until we’re “MORE” out of money and can’t take care of our own citizens. It all starts with our gov’t and their lack of taking care of the citizens that voted them into office. We better have some hardline Reps in DC or what you’re seeing on TV from the middle east is a preview of what will be happening here before long.

Like I said the governments of Europe can choose to do what they wish with welfare benefits. They have finally found out it does not pay to keep the leeches on generous benefits and they are starting to follow the lead of North America where benefits are mostly nothing.
But that being said, it has always been a dhimmi state for anyone to be on welfare. Who looks up to them….no one. It is a degraded status.
Same goes for criminals. All are ususally considered beneath one.
One could say that muslim have rightly chosen their proper status in society. What goes around, comes around.

You gotta love progressivism/liberalism/socialism. It’s the mother of parasitical political correctness. Are Europeans really so weak and cowardly that they’re willingly committing cultural suicide? Their birth rates are below replacement levels, Muslim immigrants hostile to Western culture are flooding into Europe and the the cowardly sheep go willing to slaughter.

Well, how about their fellow muslims who are also working toward the fall of the west through the institution of a caliphate from within? You fail to see that your assumptions are blinding you to the fact that they don’t give a rat’s a$$ whether they are looked up to or respected by westerners, they only care about their fellow muslims. For example, Anjem Choudary (google him) is a leader of a radical islamic movement in England that has many followers. He is interviewed by the media regularly, spouting off on his rants about jihad against westerners and western society, not only in England but in the US as well. You don’t think he is respected and admired by a healthy segment of Muslim society in these western nations and around the world??? These preconceptions you have about how you view yourself or your neighbor do not apply to a culture that cares naught for you or your values.

“One could say that muslim have rightly chosen their proper status in society.”

Or, you could say they have retired on a government funded pension that allows them the freedom, the time and financial assistance to conduct their jihad against the west.

We should do this, we should do that. Who are we? This idle talk has been going on for years now. Now get back to playing angry birds, watching viral videos and make sure you don’t miss American Idol tonight while our Country slips farther and farther into this sh_t hole. Put people in power that will start to change this.

These Muslims are NOT refugees! Refugees DO NOT BREAK into PEOPLE’S houses and THREATEN them! An invasion is taking place in Europe. The unrest in Tunisia and Libya is an excuse. Europeans will suffer if Europe’s leaders don’t defend their people and send the invaders back to their own countries or other Muslim countries.

“One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.”
—Former Algerian President Houari Boumedienne’s prophetic warning to Europe in a speech at the U.N. In 1974.

Fools, absolute fools! You gripe and complain and in doing so demonstrate your impotency and helplessness while being invaded by conscienceless primitives. They are not intelligent as we understand intelligence. They rarely create, they rarely contribute, they have no great art (which they generally despise)or music, or science. The number of Nobel laureates that the Muslim world has produced in 100 years could be counted on less than two hands. The tiny state of Israel has produced more Nobel Laureates than the entire Muslim Ummah, many times over. The Muslims are lazy, hostile, supremacist in the ways that Nazis and Communist fanatics were supremacist and they are backward beyond the ken. Yet, they are successfully overwhelming us because they have a plan and they work in cohesion not unlike “The Borg” of “Star Trek The Next Generation” infamy. They lack real intelligence but they have the low cunning, shrewdness and the inherent duplicity found among street criminals. This is not surprising when you consider that they regard Muhammad as the perfect man and Muhammad achieved no success until he became a desert bandit. They have created culture and an ethos based on banditry and deceit. What is pathetic is that Westerners see this about the Muslims but lack the cojones to do anything about it because they are afraid of these thugs. There is not a non-Muslim in a million who has the courage to stand up and fight against this unrelenting horror, the great Geert Wilders being the unique exception. You keep voting for the same, dhimmi politicians who will do nothing to save you. Nothing to save Western civilization. You will get what you deserve.

So, since I am a Muslim, I, according to many of you, don’t pay taxes, am living on the public dole, and so are all of the American Muslims that I know. Wow, glad to see that a lot of my fellow countrymen choose remain ignorant out of fear of being wrong. I wonder where the $32,000 in taxes withheld from my paycheck last year went. I’m sure the doctors, engineers, lawyers and teachers pay a lot in taxes as well and don’t recieve a dime in welfare benefits. Oh and just a little tidbit of real Sharia: one has to be able to support a family and his wife or wives on his own before marrying and starting a family. Don’t label frauds and cheats with anything other than that. There is no shortage of people of any race or religion that do the same.

Okay, get off the victim wagon Moose. NO ONE IS SAYING THAT ALL MOSLEMS ARE CROOKS. That is not the point of this article. However, it is a fact that polygamist Moslem immigrants ARE coming into Canada and sucking from the teet of our welfare state. Moslems are innocent children in this case, but of course you know that. I also pay taxes and unlike these bogus Moslem immigrant claimants, I do not cheat my government nor do I live off of anyone else. Stop whining about the phony “Islamophobia” Be greatful that you live in a free society. If you complained in your the country where you came from, you would be in jail or worse.

do you support that as a good muslim you follow the lifestyle of Mohammad?

is it ok to kill non-muslims and to rape women who are non-muslims because that is what Mo said you could. it is in your “religious” book

I would just want a yes or no answer …I know what the koran says …I want to know if you support it or not. I also am well aware of the duplicitous nature of islam …so really it is a rhetorical question.

Guys, you think you are outraged by this. Just search for “Muslim rape epidemic in Sweden and Norway” and see how enraged you can get. Not content with staying at home with their many wives and tax payers money, these bastards also have a tendency to roam the streets and rape western women not wearing a burka.

I’ve heard the same thing in every country they are in – and they still don’t care, do they? The western women aren’t objecting, the western men don’t care and the government condones it by their silence.

Canada is about to have ANOTHER election again in May. (we just had one last year) I hope that PM Harper can get in with a majority government this time, but no matter who wins the prize, the immigration issue is never on the table. More and more bogus refugees, terrorists, criminals (all of whom are leeches on society) keep coming and coming. No one in power has the guts to stop immigration from these barbaric and primitive countries.

The Governments in Canada, The US, and Europe are run by idiots if they permit this to continue. The people should sack their Governments now, and put conservative common sense leaders who see thru this welfare scam, and others perpetrated by minority immigrants and citizens all over.
The muslims are planning to cut your throats and yet you give them the money to do it. Obama is the same way, a fools idiot in a suit that got elected by even bigger fools, mostly blacks and low IQ citizens who believed Obamas lies.

You folks sure spewing out your hate for a zillion people when in fact you don’t tell us how many people are doing this terrible things, which, in passing, takes place NOT in your country but in that of the nation just to the North of you.

In fact, the income level for Muslims in your country is above the national average. Mention that instead of spewing hate.

Blame it on Liberal’s and their multi-cultural BS. It’s Liberal’s who have turned these countries into Welfare states. It’s Liberal’s who allowed these people to take advantage of the country. Same Liberal’s who are scared to say anything negative about Islam, same Liberal’s who won’t talk about the evil things Muslim’s around the world do to eachother. It’s all because of these braindead Liberal’s. Liberalism is a Mental Illness.

This practice is absolutely insane. What is wrong with all these countries, including ours, that gives away the tax money of hard working individuals to lazy, no good cheats, that laugh at the very authorities that support them. I think the seniors that are struggling should get that money. The people that worked all their lives and paid into the tax system should get their rightful cost of living increases, instead, Obama made the Federal government print on the Social Security’s annual statements, “The government finds there has not been an increase in our cost of living index for the last two years”. What a bunch of crock!!! No, nothing has increased in price over the last two years!!! Ha, Ha, Ha. This is what is legally allowed in a Democracy! Nne of the Media has ever even mentioned this. What are they all afraid of? Don’t we have Free Speech in this country? Old people are cheated out of their annual increase in their Social Security income, which is a law, for the last two years already, but Obama and all his cronies have no trouble spending billions on his moslem friends to feed them and to help oust their leaders, so they too can have this wonderful Democract, just like we have here. Why do we have these crooks in politics. I hope you won’t vote for this moslem liar again, if you do, you all deserve the doom that will come. Wake up people. We need an uprising of the depressed, hard working people to oust our leaders.

I heard from an American, ex-Marine and resident living in a single room occupancy house in Queens, NY, that the non-working Arab men also living there, hanging out in front of the house all day and smoking, were getting a monthly check from the government of about $1800.,(much more than many of us Americans even take home), whilst they chanted “Death to America” amongst themselves and other ghastly conversations and hatred toward this country.
Never a good word.
Another Isreali friend told me years ago that it is/has been their mission to infiltrate every country and eventually take over.

That was the purpose behind OCAP signing up thousands of people who did not qualifty for the provinces Special Diet benefit for people on welfare.

Most of it was done for the Somali community many of whom received an extra thousand a month, some over 2 thousand a month to send back to their warlords in Somalia all paid for by Canadian taxpayers.

It is estimated OCAP may have been costing taxpayers over $10 MILLION every year for their special diet scheme.

Now we are hearing OCAP is managing to get people into Canada to claim refugee status from Somalia to Bangladesh and after 3 months get onto disability benefits because there are no checks on those recipients. Then the people go back home and somebody else picks up the check to cash it and send it out of the country and the government is none the wiser and doesn’t seem to care.

Isn’t that the definition of organized crime? Why isn’t OCAP and their partners ever charged for that?

its discusting , i lost my job a few months back so yes at the moment im claiming off state *sorry guys* but its certainly not by choice , however , i dont get enough to survive on i can barly afford to eat .. yet these people have massive houses ect ! cheers government look after your own ! after working since the age of 15 i get a punch in the face as such!

Reading This Article Really Has Me Peeved! Our Politicians Are Too Afraid To Do Anything About It! They’re Afraid Of A W-r Between Us. Well If This Kind Of Sh-t Continues Then So Be It. We should Make The Monies Come From Our Politicians Checks. I’ll Bet They Would Sing A Different Tune Then. The Atrocity Of Feeding The Very Ones That Seek your Downfall! When Will One Learn?