February 27, 2015

Every IT-savvy commenter and coblogger was saying that all of these emails are periodically backed up to tapes which are always available.

The IRS kept claiming they weren't. They claimed they were lost, or missing, or "recycled" every six months.

People not in the IRS kept saying "Bullshit, the point of the tapes is to keep them forever."

So yes. This new investigator, Mr. Camus, set out to find the tapes which the IRS head swore under oath did not exist and he found them. In two weeks.

(#twoweeks)

This suggests the very real policy that multiple hands at the IRS deliberately lied to Congress in order to end Congress' search for the tapes, and that they further did not do the minimum due diligence required by law in cooperating with a federal subpoena: As Mr. Camus states, when he went to the storage facility in West Virginia, which is "exactly where you'd expect [the tapes] to be," the IT people there found them immediately, and furthermore said that no one had ever before asked for the tapes.

See the second video as well. Camus recovered 424 new tapes only because a document tipped him to the existence of these tapes. But the IRS withheld that document from him, seeking, it appears, to hide the existence of this tapes from the duly-authorized investigators.

The IRS withheld the document from him; apparently he got hold of it by other means.

And here's one of the emails recently recovered from these allegedly lost, destroyed, or recycled tapes:

The IRSs inspector general confirmed Thursday it is conducting a criminal investigation into how Lois G. Lerners emails disappeared, saying it took only two weeks for investigators to find hundreds of tapes the agencys chief had told Congress were irretrievably destroyed.

424 new tapes have recently been recovered, which will undoubtedly have more Lerner emails on them. The inspector general refuses to say this outright (citing the ongoing investigation), but it's fairly clear that the IRS intentionally withheld documents that would have revealed the existence of these tapes. Rep Jordan presses him on this point here.

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If the nasty bitch ever did get jail time, the JEF would pardon her.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 27, 2015 07:33 AM (FsuaD)

31
Is this the type of story the FCC is going to want to keep from us? You know, to prevent the people from being harmed by causing them to lose confidence in their government?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2015 07:33 AM (TOk1P)

32
They have even more hard evidence that Obama and Lerner lied. Also that Lerner committed multiple felonies. Will they do anything about it?
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Any crime uncovered by a congressional investigation is persecuted (sic) by the Department of Justice in the Executive Branch of government and that Federal Agency does what Obama tells them to do.

Posted by: Economics Loo at February 27, 2015 07:33 AM (UYVd+)

33
She's wrong. Elijah Cummings is only too anxious to believe that both hard drives crashed within two weeks of one another

44
They have even more hard evidence that Obama and Lerner lied. Also that
Lerner committed multiple felonies. Will they do anything about it?___I've going to give her a high paying do nothing job.

Oh...you mean something negative?

Posted by: George Soros at February 27, 2015 07:35 AM (78TbK)

45
"No one will ever believe that both your hard drive and mine crashed within a week of each other."
Why wouldn't we believe it? Sounds perfectly plausible to us.
We'll just pretend to make an issue out of this for a week or two to satisfy our base, then we'll make it go quietly away.
Don't sweat it. Carry on, Comrades. Heckuva job you're doing.

Posted by: The GOPe at February 27, 2015 07:35 AM (7ObY1)

46
How does any of this help Michelle Obama's children?
The Obama administration is a criminal cabal.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 27, 2015 07:35 AM (Fnyc2)

47
and remember how everyone was told they didn't Save emails?
and then emails might be saved but not these types?
also i'd like to know if they had email addresses unknown to IG knowledge ?
Hey, aren't these the same people that Don't care about peoples privacy ?
nsa, should turn over every govt officials emails, because Privacy isn't a Right.

Posted by: comrade willow at February 27, 2015 07:35 AM (nqBYe)

48
Any crime uncovered by a congressional investigation is persecuted (sic) by the Department of Justice...
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Thank goodness the Republicans are the majority in the legislative branch and just had the opportunity to vote on the new head of that department! Make sure it's someone honest!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at February 27, 2015 07:35 AM (VAsIq)

49
So, can someone explain to me why we still don't have a special prosecutor on this?

54
Thankfully I saw a guy on television recently saying that the Obama administration had been untouched by scandal for 6 year, which is unprecedented, so I'm sure this is just some right-wing conspiracy theory.

Posted by: LIV at February 27, 2015 07:35 AM (AgcKO)

55If the nasty bitch ever did get jail time, the JEF would pardon her.
Then after he does, and leaves office, call her as a witness and put her under oath. No 5th Amendment protection since she's pardoned, and no protection against a felony perjury conviction if she lies. In fact, do this to everyone in the administration. It's less important that these criminals go to jail, though that would be nice, than that Truth of this criminal syndicate be revealed.

Posted by: toby928(C) at February 27, 2015 07:36 AM (evdj2)

56
Obama will grant pardons to all of his henchmen as he leaves office"
It's cute that you think any of them will even face prosecution.

Posted by: anon a mouse at February 27, 2015 07:36 AM (/jpU8)

57
This shit is like a dog chasing shadows. Forget it. None of this ever happened.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 27, 2015 07:36 AM (ucDmr)

58
This Camus guy should get a Congressional Medal of Freedom.
Full speed ahead.

64So, can someone explain to me why we still don't have a special prosecutor on this?
Only the DOJ can appoint one.

Posted by: toby928(C) at February 27, 2015 07:37 AM (evdj2)

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30 If the nasty bitch ever did get jail time, the JEF would pardon her.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 27, 2015 12:33 PM (FsuaD)
I suspect the strategy is to delay full-out prosecution past his last day in office, at which point he'll pardon her.
In the interest of moving on and putting divisiveness behind us. For the children.

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There has got to be serious jail time or this corruption will become the way things are done forever!!!!!
How can when make our government follow through and throw this whole corrupt administration in prison?

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Some Dem sitting next to Elijah Cummings asked about the 32K of 80K emails found: since you only brought 32K emails because you said the other emails were duplicates, isn't possible that the 32K you brought are duplicates as well? These are BACKUPS. On one level, they are all duplicates, on another level, since Ms. Lerner's hard-drive was "destroyed" and emails "lost", they are the only existing copies we have.
Oh, and when will Koskinen be held in contempt of Congress for perjury? Ah yes, I forgot he's probably on the same track as Eric Holder and will never be held to account. Remind me again why we voted the Repub clowns back in?

Posted by: jim at February 27, 2015 07:38 AM (VwhRo)

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Early for OT, but this ties in a bit with the non-scandals.... The WH released a statement about EO on "Amnesty." They say that they are and I quote "Taking action to unlock the economic contributions of Americans -In- Waiting." So that makes ok...

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I will respond to this the only way I know how.
By blowing a kiss, applying self-tanning lotion, having a good cry and attending a cocktail party.
Aren't you proud of your leader, my little GOP'ers?

Posted by: The Weeping Boner at February 27, 2015 07:38 AM (7ObY1)

78
so is this bread and circus's for US or is something actually going to be done about it?
i mean like more than retiring with a nice pension?

Posted by: comrade willow at February 27, 2015 07:38 AM (nqBYe)

79
OT: Evidently Rubio has done a 180 on his Amnesty stance.___If you don't like my stances on the issues today, you'll love them next week!

Posted by: Marco Rubio at February 27, 2015 07:38 AM (78TbK)

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when will Koskinen be held in contempt of Congress for perjury?
THIS

Posted by: Feh at February 27, 2015 07:39 AM (4EQf5)

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Maybe the cowards in the US Senate could ask that Loretta Lunch lady about how she will prosecute this.
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LOL. Be serious. We all know the GOP thinks it's raaaaaacist to ask any questions of a black woman.
Or an illegal alien.
Or a Muslim.
Such "historically oppressed minorities" have complete moral authority to destroy the country, loot the treasury, and kill as many Americans as they please.
And the GOP pukes will happily hold the door open for them as they do it.

87
i mean like more than retiring with a nice pension?"
Hey - those lawns in Bethesda aren't exactly cheap to keep up, you know.

Posted by: anon a mouse at February 27, 2015 07:40 AM (/jpU8)

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"As Mr. Camus states, when he went to the storage facility in West Virginia, which is "exactly where you'd expect [the tapes] to be," the IT people there found them immediately, and furthermore said that "no one had ever before asked for the tapes."
I'm sorry but screw you IT people! You can't make an anonymous call to TIGTA and let them know the tapes do exist and where to find them?! You're ok with letting them make you all look like incompetent effing fools?
Nuke DC....it's the only way to be sure.

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Here's another thing: All this ISISRS illegal harassment of conservative groups was done in an effort to affect the outcome of a national presidential election.
When will somebody in DC bring up that little tidbit of information?
/rhetorical

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 27, 2015 07:42 AM (XUKZU)

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96 Here's another thing: All this ISISRS illegal harassment of conservative groups was done in an effort to affect the outcome of a national presidential election.
When will somebody in DC bring up that little tidbit of information?
/rhetorical
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at February 27, 2015 12:42 PM (0HooB)
Shit, the FCC will probably hire Lois Lerner to do "Net Neutrality" reviews of individual websites.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2015 07:43 AM (2Ojst)

102
let them know the tapes do exist and where to find them"
No offense, but the denizens of Potowmak Swampland couldn't find West Virginia if you sat them down on I 66 West...

Posted by: anon a mouse at February 27, 2015 07:43 AM (/jpU8)

103
Why was this guy able to find them in two weeks?
Was he a new appointee? Who had his job before him? Is he a result of the Repubs taking the Senate?
Confused who this new guy is and why he wasn't given this task before.

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"As Mr. Camus states, when he went to the storage facility in West Virginia, which is "exactly where you'd expect [the tapes] to be," the IT people there found them immediately, and furthermore said that "no one had ever before asked for the tapes."
I'm sorry but screw you IT people! You can't make an anonymous call to TIGTA and let them know the tapes do exist and where to find them?! You're ok with letting them make you all look like incompetent effing fools?
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Hey, we didn't know anyone was looking! You think we use our computer skills to read the news? HA! We're on the DARK INTERNET looking at DARK PRON.

Posted by: LIV IT Guy at February 27, 2015 07:43 AM (VAsIq)

106
Camus is on the job. Was Zombie Jean-Paul Sartre working on another case?

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the IT people there found them immediately, and furthermore said that "no one had ever before asked for the tapes."
wow so they knew about the tapes..
but they are as dishonest as lerner and holder, and kokinen?
or no one thought to ask IT, for the tapes?

Posted by: comrade willow at February 27, 2015 07:43 AM (nqBYe)

109
"The watchdog agency found the backed-up emails by consulting with IRS information-technology specialists ..."

"Camus said the IRS's technology specialists told investigators that no one from the agency asked for the tapes ..."

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That his name is Camus is proof once again that reality is always, always, always stranger than fiction.
This suggests the very real policy that multiple hands at the IRS deliberately lied to Congress in order to end Congress' search for the tapes, and that they further did not do the minimum due diligence required by law in cooperating with a federal subpoena: As Mr. Camus states, when he went to the storage facility in West Virginia, which is "exactly where you'd expect [the tapes] to be," the IT people there found them immediately, and furthermore said that no one had ever before asked for the tapes.
This is how you get at this stuff. By going to the lowest person on the totem poll, the one with no protections and the one who cannot afford to lose his/her job and who still believes that lying under oath is a big deal and ask them questions. It's amazing how often you can find out all kinds of fun things.
I can't believe no one from the IRS had taken the step of insuring that the people at the tape storage facility were told to keep their yaps shut.
So what do we think is going to happen? My guess is the file clerks get fired and no knock raided by ATF and Gollum gets a half million dollar bonus.

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I'm sure than CNN, MSNBC, ABC News, NBC News, and CBS News will be all over this story.
So what will be the "Professional Journalists' " spin?
It's the fault of republicans in Congress.
It's the fault of Bush, or Bush did the same thing.
It's a manufactured scandal.
Nobody cares about this.
AT THIS POINT WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE, AT LEAST 4 PEOPLE DIDN'T DIE!

127
I can't believe no one from the IRS had taken the step of insuring that the people at the tape storage facility were told to keep their yaps shut."
I can. In fact, I'd wager (and win big) that most of the SES/upper levels even know that there is a backup center on I 79...

140
Rest assured that AG Holder's call for a LOWER "new standard of proof" for federal civil rights cases will not apply to IRS abuses. As Holder is now advising people to read Malcolm X, we know there will be one standard of proof for crackers, another for everyone else.

Posted by: wooga at February 27, 2015 07:47 AM (XK0dn)

141
Notice this comes out after the GOP sold us out on the Lynch vote.

145
Who was it who told us there hasn't been a smidgen of scandal"
Define "smidgen".

Posted by: anon a mouse at February 27, 2015 07:48 AM (/jpU8)

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142 Notice this comes out after the GOP sold us out on the Lynch vote.
Posted by: Lauren at February 27, 2015 12:48 PM (MYCIw)
Great ain't it? Holder with tits...

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2015 07:49 AM (2Ojst)

147Spock's not dead, he's just pon farring for the fjords.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2015 12:34 PM (2Ojst)
I should smack you for making me laugh over this!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 27, 2015 07:49 AM (37e3g)

148
They say that they are and I quote "Taking action to unlock the economic contributions of Americans -In- Waiting."
__________________
LOL. Right. That's why one of the first orders of business in implementing the new illegal amnesty programs is to make sure illegal aliens know where and how to apply for all those back "tax credits" they're owed for all the years they illegally held their low-paying jobs in the U.S. and illegally didn't file or pay any income taxes here.
"Tax credits," for those who don't know, are thinly-disguised welfare payments. The recipient must file a tax return showing either a very low income and/or very high number of dependents (real or imagined, doesn't matter because the IRS won't check, especially if you have a hispanic name). Then the recipient gets a nice big check from the U.S. Treasury. No payments of income tax from the recipient required to qualify for the "tax credit" checks.
So apparently all these new low-skill, welfare-dependent illegal aliens are going to be "economic contributors" to the U.S. economy in the same way that food stamp recipients are. For every $2 in welfare benefits we pay them, they stimulate the economy by $1, or something.
Hey, if we could just get all the rest of the world's poor onto our food stamp, EITC, and welfare rolls, our economy would be on fire!

156
Rest assured that AG Holder's call for a LOWER "new standard of proof" for federal civil rights cases will not apply to IRS abuses. As Holder is now advising people to read Malcolm X, we know there will be one standard of proof for crackers, another for everyone else.
Posted by: wooga at February 27, 2015 12:47 PM (XK0dn)
When A guy named X is anointed as someone to emulate, you know we are really truly finally fucked but good

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 07:50 AM (rDqRv)

157
On the upside, when Hillary is president, we won't be hearing "racist", it'll "misogynist".

Think of all the MSM people who are going to have to change their microsoft word "racist" macro to "misogynist". The IT department will be busy for weeks.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at February 27, 2015 07:50 AM (sH832)

158
Sales Tax. No need for an IRS.***You could tell the GOPe didn't care about the IRS going after conservatives when they didn't even try and dump the IRS for some other tax system.

164153The IRS committed atrocities on random groups. The fact that the groups were Tea Party had nothing to do with it. It was random.

http://xkcd.com/221/

Posted by: Anachronda at February 27, 2015 07:51 AM (o78gS)

165
I should smack you for making me laugh over this!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 27, 2015 12:49 PM (37e3g)
I love it when you talk dirty.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2015 07:51 AM (2Ojst)

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153 The IRS committed atrocities on random groups. The fact that the groups were Tea Party had nothing to do with it. It was random.
Posted by: Jugears at February 27, 2015 12:49 PM
And I knew nothing about it because I read it in the news just like you.... FORE!

You know, I've given up expecting jail time for these thieves and liars. That's fine. Can they at least get fired? perhaps loose their pension? Perhaps have their career in government be actually over?

Don't focus on criminality. Focus on incompetence. Tried to hide the tapes? it might be criminal, but it is definitely incompetent. You're fired, with prejudice. Don't ever ask us for a recommendation.

174
Between the IRS, the JEF wanting to ban AR-15 ammo, the JEF honoring St. Tray Table for Black History Month, telling us ISIS is made up of poor yoots who just need job opportunities, I'm all raged out.

176
just in time for the FCC to take over the distrubution of internet bandwidth.
and i'm sure there are other Great ideas in those 300 pages of regs and new law.

Posted by: comrade willow at February 27, 2015 07:52 AM (nqBYe)

177
just in time for the FCC to take over the distrubution of internet bandwidth.
and i'm sure there are other Great ideas in those 300 pages of regs and new law.

Posted by: comrade willow at February 27, 2015 07:52 AM (nqBYe)

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The IT department will be busy for weeks....
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...jackin' it!
Posted by: IT Guy at February 27, 2015 12:51 PM (VAsIq)
In San Diego?
Posted by: Insomniac
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No talking!

Posted by: Craigslist Ad at February 27, 2015 07:52 AM (VAsIq)

179
So what will be the "Professional Journalists' " spin?
The Tea Party wing of the GOP continues with their long-discredited attack on the IRS, proving their War on Women by continuing to harass hard-working public servant Lois Lerner instead of focusing on the issues that middle-class Americans really care about.
Something along those lines.

Posted by: Citizen X at February 27, 2015 07:52 AM (7ObY1)

180
If they charge & prosecute Lerner, would it help to prevent this in the future? I wonder if she will just be tossed under the bus so Obama etc can avoid the stink.

Posted by: Baldy at February 27, 2015 07:53 AM (+35FH)

181
You are correct, Lois, no one will ever believe the crashed hard drive story. hahahahahaha

Posted by: ChristyB now looks like Duchess of Alba at February 27, 2015 07:53 AM (TIGDR)

182
These assholes are so lawless, so frightening that I'm approaching the point where their removal by any means would come as a pleasant relief to me.

Posted by: Kanye East at February 27, 2015 07:53 AM (xkSSa)

183
So what will be the "Professional Journalists' " spin?
Silence... It doesn't exist...

189
Think of all the MSM people who are going to have to change their microsoft word "racist" macro to "misogynist".
I've heard that all my life.
Big f'n deal.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at February 27, 2015 07:54 AM (6ypGG)

190This is how you get at this stuff. By going to the lowest person on the totem poll, the one with no protections and the one who cannot afford to lose his/her job and who still believes that lying under oath is a big deal and ask them questions. It's amazing how often you can find out all kinds of fun things.
This. In my litigation experience, I've seen it too many times to keep count. A worker cog with only 1-2 years experience will tell the truth, since he fears perjury charges more than losing his job. A worker with 10 years experience has flipped the scales and will easily lie/cheat/steal to protect that sweet pension.

Posted by: wooga at February 27, 2015 07:54 AM (XK0dn)

191
Next somebody at MSNBC will accuse Romney of strapping Camus to the top of his car.

192
So what will be the "Professional Journalists' " spin?
The Tea Party wing of the GOP continues with their long-discredited attack on the IRS, proving their War on Women by continuing to harass hard-working public servant Lois Lerner instead of focusing on the issues that middle-class Americans really care about.
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*Yawn*

193
Feet.
Fire.
Some assembly required.
Get some people sweating and all kinds of truth will pop out.

Posted by: Advo at February 27, 2015 07:54 AM (7hUS8)

194
The IT department will be busy for weeks....
---
...jackin' it!
It's in West Virginia. The servers will soon be outside sitting on concrete blocks, next to the state flower
(running gag - that the "state flower" is a defunct sat dish in the yard)

Posted by: anon a mouse at February 27, 2015 07:54 AM (/jpU8)

195
"Despite multiple claims by Republicans, there is simply no evidence after nearly two years of investigating to support this wholly unsubstantiated conspiracy theory," Rep. Elijah Commings (D-blowjob), the top Democrat on the oversight committee, said at Thursday's hearing.

200
telling us ISIS is made up of poor yoots who just need job opportunities___Do you have any jobs in your IRS? We think we would be very good at this auditing thing. It involves pain, terror, and submission, no?

Posted by: ISIS at February 27, 2015 07:54 AM (78TbK)

201
Lerner's email clearly shows she was being coerced into lying. Which is like rape. Really, she's the victim here. Teaparty raped her.

207
The Constitution is meaningless.
It's meaningless unless Americans believe this:
"Whenever the legislators endeavour to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.
Whensoever, therefore, the legislative shall transgress this fundamental rule of society ... by this breach of trust they forfeit the power the people had put into their hands for quite contrary ends, and it devolves to the people, who have a right to resume their original liberty, and by the establishment of a new legislative ... provide for their own safety and security.
What I have said here concerning the legislative in gneral holds true also concerning the supreme executor, who having a double trust put in him, both to have a part in the legislative and the supreme execution of the law, acts against both, when he goes about to set up his own arbitrary will as the law of the society"
John Locke, Second Treatise, XIX:222

Posted by: Feh at February 27, 2015 07:55 AM (4EQf5)

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169 The IT department will be busy for weeks....
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...jackin' it!
Posted by: IT Guy at February 27, 2015 12:51 PM (VAsIq)
Tangentially... http://preview.tinyurl.com/k9ynbxm

216
Can I borrow your copy, Mr. President?
Posted by: Bill Cosby
Pass it this way when your done.
Posted by: Roman Polanski
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How young are we talkin' here?

Posted by: Lena Dunham at February 27, 2015 07:56 AM (VAsIq)

217
So what will be the "Professional Journalists' " spin?
tea party Extremists were funneling funds to Isis a random something type of another extremist.
Oh and funneling furiously fast guns to those same extremists.
We found all this out in computer emails in Benghazi.

219
it's old news.
Scott Walker evading questions about whether he believes God spoke Hebrew and not Aramaic at Mt Sinai is more important.

Posted by: mallfly of the MSM at February 27, 2015 07:57 AM (bJm7W)

22010 Does anyone actually believe anything is going to come of this? I don't.
If only there was some kind of organization or group that specialized in uncovering this kind of corruption and then disseminate to the masses. Something or someone who is independent from the government. You know "Journalism" or something.

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at February 27, 2015 07:57 AM (6q4DK)

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142 >> Notice this comes out after the GOP sold us out on the Lynch vote.

Lauren, that's only sellout #1 to let her nom out of committee. Sellout #2 is yet to come, when they cross the aisle to actually confirm the slimy bitch.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 27, 2015 07:57 AM (Qvn/s)

222
My opinion of Lerner is the same as Hannover Fist's about Capt. Stern.

Posted by: Darh Randall at February 27, 2015 07:58 AM (6n332)

223
whether he believes God spoke Hebrew and not Aramaic
if the King's English is good enough for God, it's bloody well good enough for me!

Posted by: Feh at February 27, 2015 07:58 AM (4EQf5)

224
223 My opinion of Lerner is the same as Hannover Fist's about Capt. Stern.
Posted by: Darh Randall at February 27, 2015 12:58 PM (6n332)
She sold dope disguised as a nun?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2015 07:58 AM (2Ojst)

225
IRS head should be subpoenaed immediately and demanded to explain or be charged with contempt of congress.

226
Nimoy dead, Gutfeld out at Red Eye, bullet bans, kiss-blowing Senate Majority leaders...
I am not having a very good day.

Posted by: Citizen X at February 27, 2015 07:59 AM (7ObY1)

227
This isn't news, llamas and dress colors are. That's what is important. Oh, Spock died. That should take up about 90% of news time for at least three days. LIV's must not be denied their SOMA happy time or they will be very cranky.

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at February 27, 2015 07:59 AM (1BQGO)

230
141 Rest assured that AG Holder's call for a LOWER "new standard of proof" for federal civil rights cases will not apply to IRS abuses. As Holder is now advising people to read Malcolm X, we know there will be one standard of proof for crackers, another for everyone else.
Posted by: wooga at February 27, 2015 12:47 PM (XK0dn)
Malcolm X was murdered by his own people. What exactly is the lesson that we are to learn from that? That Muslims are violent? Black on black murder? That in this day and age, teachers no longer tell high achieving black students that they can become carpenters? What's the message?

236
nip
does anyone in Congress have actual balls, or are they all those prosthetic balls you can purchase in SF during Gay Pride marches?

Posted by: Feh at February 27, 2015 08:01 AM (4EQf5)

237
Gutfield will still be on FNC. They're creating some new show for him. Not sure what they'll do with Red Eye.

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at February 27, 2015 08:01 AM (6q4DK)

238
Lauren, that's only sellout #1 to let her nom out of committee. Sellout #2 is yet to come, when they cross the aisle to actually confirm the slimy bitch.
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Question # 1 should be "Will you prosecute Lois Lerner?"
Question # 2 should be "Are you willing to go to prison for failing to prosecute Lois Lerner?"

240 IRS head should be subpoenaed immediately and demanded to explain or be charged with contempt of congress.
Fuck that. Arrest his ass and throw him in jail without bail. Put him in an orange jumpsuit with shackles and make him to the perp walk in the DC winter.
Then make him testify.

241
160 The Constitution is meaningless.
Posted by: california red at February 27, 2015 12:50 PM (UyEG4)
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So is congress. Let's face it. We're living under marxist tyranny now. And, yes, at some point, there will be camps.

249
does anyone in Congress have actual balls, or are they all those prosthetic balls you can purchase in SF during Gay Pride marches?
Posted by: Feh at February 27, 2015 01:01 PM (4EQf5)
Hello, over here!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at February 27, 2015 08:03 AM (sWgE+)

250
Malcolm X was murdered by his own people. What exactly is the lesson that we are to learn from that? That Muslims are violent? Black on black murder? That in this day and age, teachers no longer tell high achieving black students that they can become carpenters? What's the message?

Posted by: Jugears

You're supposed to read that slop while wearing a Che t-shirt while facing Mecca.

because.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 27, 2015 08:03 AM (Spluw)

251
On May 10[, 2013] in advance of the public release of the audit findings, Director of the IRS Exempt Organizations division Lois Lerner answered what was later revealed to be a planted question by stating that the IRS was "apologetic" for what she termed "absolutely inappropriate" actions.[

255
Can I get it on the island? Posted by: Bill Clinton at February 27, 2015 12:48 PM (78TbK)

I hear there's going to be a new reality show, "Survivor: Pedophile Isle". I'll bet you can be on it.

Posted by: nerdygirl

We are NOT doing the immunity testing IYKWIMAITTYD.

Posted by: CDC at February 27, 2015 08:05 AM (Spluw)

256
What? What's that all about?
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2015 01:02 PM (0FSuD)
Yep, FNC has announced that Greg Gutlfeld is leaving Red Eye, which will continue with a revolving roster of guest hosts.
Which is what they've essentially been doing for months now. Have to say, I saw this coming. Been pretty obvious they were trying our potential new hosts.
Gutfeld is getting a weekend slot, presumably Shuckabees, I would guess.

260Sales Tax. No need for an IRS.
My "plan" is sales tax for state gov't, capped at 10%. No other taxes or fees or whatever other term you want to use. That's it.
Then for Federal Gov't, 10% flat tax. That's it. No deductions, nobody avoids it. I don't care if you only earned 20K.

265
Gutfeld is getting a weekend slot, presumably Shuckabees, I would guess.
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They should just make Red Eye a not-3 am show. But good riddance to Huckabee. May he receive 0 votes and fade away forever.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at February 27, 2015 08:06 AM (VAsIq)

266People not in the IRS kept saying "Bullshit, the point of the tapes is to keep them forever."
Does anyone really think the IRS would throw away evidence that they could conceivably use against someone at a later date?
All that bonus money has to come from somewhere.

268
In February 1965, shortly after repudiating the Nation of Islam, Malcolm X was assassinated by three of its members.

Posted by: Elijah Muhammad at February 27, 2015 08:07 AM (e8kgV)

269
that $2 for $1 would be a handy stat
got any links?
Posted by: Feh at February 27, 2015 12:51 PM (4EQf5)
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It's a reference to a ludicrous assertion that Nancy Pelosi made when she argued that record-high numbers of food stamp recipients, and continually extending unemployment benefits, are some of the best "investments" we can make in the U.S. economy, because for every dollar paid out by the government in welfare benefits, $1.79 is put into the U.S. economy.
http://tinyurl.com/3xs2ya5
It's idiotic of course, but this is how Dims think: the best way to grow our economy is to print and give away more money!
So of course importing millions more poor, unskilled, uneducated foreigners, and putting them on the dole, is a great idea. Just think of the billions and billions of dollars in welfare benefits they'll consume each year!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 27, 2015 08:07 AM (Fnyc2)

270
My soothsayer intuition tells me that the Republican leadership is okay with obama's IRS targeting and persecuting conservative groups.
So nothing will come of this. Nothing
Why should the GOPe have a problem with the Dems attacking the tea party groups? They hate almost as much as the Dems do.

Posted by: wrg500 at February 27, 2015 08:07 AM (sWgE+)

271
>>We should prolly get our code words sorted out now
Posted by: George

Mine's Palamino

Posted by: Harry Reid at February 27, 2015 08:07 AM (sQzB6)

272
Our federal government is so out of control that the only way to get it reigned in would be to cut off all revenue.

Oh wait, this would be tea party terrorism.

Posted by: Fritz at February 27, 2015 08:07 AM (UzPAd)

273This. In my litigation experience, I've seen it too many times to keep count. A worker cog with only 1-2 years experience will tell the truth, since he fears perjury charges more than losing his job. A worker with 10 years experience has flipped the scales and will easily lie/cheat/steal to protect that sweet pension.
Posted by: wooga at February 27, 2015 12:54 PM (XK0dn)
Even better is getting the IT guys to explain why documents were destroyed and asking them intentionally stupid questions about document retention policy, procedure and how the software works that will make them freak the fuck out and have to explain, generally with helpful sketches, exactly how the system works and why it's not IT's fault that those records got destroyed.

275
So of course importing millions more poor, unskilled, uneducated foreigners, and putting them on the dole, is a great idea. Just think of the billions and billions of dollars in welfare benefits they'll consume each year!
Americans in waiting, Americans in waiting! Didn't you get the memo fro the WH?

276
Tell me again why I got the perp walk and actual jail time for a crime everyone knows I didn't commit --- oh, right, for mis-remembering stuff, since Richard Armitage was the actual Plame leaker- --and Lerner is free as a bird??????

Posted by: Scooter Libby at February 27, 2015 08:08 AM (lHHyw)

277
Gutfeld is getting a weekend slot, presumably Shuckabees, I would guess.

279
118 "Taking action to unlock the economic contributions of Americans -In- Waiting."
Srsly you guys, I just can't even anymore.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at February 27, 2015 12:45 PM (/kI1Q)
I'm right there, too. I spent the first several days of Lent on a self-imposed break from politics and social media and let me tell you, it would be so, so easy to just happily slip into LIV-land. I slept what would normally be my political reading time reading scifi and fantasy for pleasure, and watching stupid cat gifs and Honest Trailers on YouTube. Laughed my ass off, too.
I came back to the political net yesterday and have spent an entire day solidly angry. I cannot aqequateky express how much I hate these fcukers in DC and the media.

284269 In February 1965, shortly after repudiating the Nation of Islam, Malcolm X was assassinated by three of its members.
That's what the international banking cabal wants you to believe!

Posted by: wooga at February 27, 2015 08:09 AM (XK0dn)

285
when will Koskinen be held in contempt of Congress for perjury?
Can someone please smack the smarmy smirk off of that ahole's face?

Posted by: Tonic Dog at February 27, 2015 08:10 AM (U0Qhv)

286
175 Between the IRS, the JEF wanting to ban AR-15 ammo, the JEF honoring St. Tray Table for Black History Month, telling us ISIS is made up of poor yoots who just need job opportunities, I'm all raged out.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 27, 2015 12:52 PM (FsuaD)
What's scary isn't that politicians do this shit. The scary thing is that such a large proportion of the population is fine with it. What the hell is wrong with people?

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 27, 2015 08:10 AM (eLZyM)

287
So of course importing millions more poor, unskilled, uneducated, unvaccinated, disease-bearing
foreigners, and putting them on the dole, is a great idea. Just think of
the billions and billions of dollars in welfare benefits they'll
consume each year!

291
off topic but an extremely important email came yesterday...
In case you haven't heard, tomorrow is Chelsea's birthday!
will you sign our card to wish Chelsea a very special birthday?

Posted by: mallfly of the MSM at February 27, 2015 08:12 AM (bJm7W)

292
Meanwhile in Dallas - - Ft Worth....
Snow. It's a mess. Traffic at a standstill.
People being sent home from work, can't get home because of all the other people being sent home from work.
Flights canceled, or maybe not. Check with your carrier, but even if your flight isn't canceled you can't get to the airport because of the traffic.
If you had your bugout bag with you, you could just shelter in place. But no. preppers are crazy nut cases.
So just keep moving forward, shuffle forward, ever forward, inch by inch, step by step, slowly I turned. Niagara Falls! (obscure three stooges reference)

Posted by: Economics Loo at February 27, 2015 08:12 AM (UYVd+)

293
Spock is not dead, vulcans live several times longer than humans. Leonard on the other hand......

296
181 If they charge prosecute Lerner, would it help to prevent this in the future? I wonder if she will just be tossed under the bus so Obama etc can avoid the stink.
Posted by: Baldy at February 27, 2015 12:53 PM (+35FH)
It might help if heads of agencies and departments know that they will be left out to dry.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 27, 2015 08:13 AM (eLZyM)

297
I came back to the political net yesterday and have spent an entire day solidly angry. I cannot aqequateky express how much I hate these fcukers in DC and the media.
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at February 27, 2015 01:08 PM (KkVB6)
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It is becoming increasingly obvious that We The People are going to have to take matters into our own hands.
And soon.

302
Scooter Libby just email to say:
"What's a guy gotta do around this place to get prosecuted!"
"Oh, wait . . . "

Posted by: Sharkman at February 27, 2015 08:13 AM (s8duV)

303
Old news, move along, nothing to see here; why do you wingnuts keep bringing this up. Obama said not a smidgen of corruption.
What? You have solid information that various IRS employees lied? RUDY GIULIANI! SCOTT WALKER DOESN"T HAVE A PLAN! !!!11ty!!!

Posted by: The Media at February 27, 2015 08:14 AM (ChY2Q)

304
"inch by inch, step by step, slowly I turned. Niagara Falls! (obscure three stooges reference)"
And I got it. Love the Stooges.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 27, 2015 08:14 AM (LA7Cm)

305
"What's a guy gotta do around this place to get prosecuted!"
Let me tell you a story.

306
Not to make you all more depressed, but now that there is no DHS shutdown to blame on the Repubs, the news cycle is free to be filled with this big NEWS.
Now, think the GOPe / Party of Stupid can capitalize on it?
Ah-hahahahahahaha!

Posted by: Tonic Dog at February 27, 2015 08:15 AM (U0Qhv)

307
Malcolm X was murdered by his own people. What exactly is the lesson
that we are to learn from that? That Muslims are violent? Black on black
murder?
I've never understood that either. "Malcolm X was murdered by The Man." Huh? Were there a lot of white men attending Nation of Islam meetings in Harlem? I doubt it. I doubt it very much.
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Somehow signs at the time pointed to Louis Farrakhan.......but even tho that was understood, Malcolm X's survivors have now "reconciled" with Farrakhan and everybody is happily pointing fingers at The Man.

310
Sad thing is I have four of my employees who are good people but this stuff is off their radar, never to be known. As they work under me I can't educate them other than pointing them to the news.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at February 27, 2015 08:15 AM (glJL/)

311
187 So, when is Al Sharpton going to pay his $4.5 mil in taxes?
*whistles* *polishes nails*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 27, 2015 12:53 PM (FsuaD)
I'm pretty sure that will be discussed when he meets with Jugears.
Shouldn't his salary from MSNBC be garnisheed? That's what they do to the little people. You know, those poor folks that Jugears and Bobblehead Al care so much about?

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 27, 2015 08:15 AM (eLZyM)

312
They should just make Red Eye a not-3 am show. But good riddance to Huckabee. May he receive 0 votes and fade away forever.
I agree. Gutfeld's star has been rising for a while now and good for him, but losing Red Eye is gonna hurt. That show has got me through some tough times, such as the JEF's first election, when I couldn't bear to watch any "straight" news.
It's just not the same with anyone else hosting and never will be.

Posted by: Citizen X at February 27, 2015 08:15 AM (7ObY1)

313289 When the law is not enforced it can only lead to violence. You leave law abiding citizens no other choice.
Posted by: Bob Belcher at February 27, 2015 01:10 PM (glJL/)
Agreed. Although I have started using the term "peaceable citizen" instead of "law-abiding citizen" because it is becoming increasingly impossible to live a normal life without breaking laws.

322So of course importing millions more poor, unskilled, uneducated foreigners, and putting them on the dole, is a great idea. Just think of the billions and billions of dollars in welfare benefits they'll consume each year!
I think most Americans can't imagine how bad it is in Mexico for the average nobody. We think of places like housing projects, but the people there have vastly more gov't support: food, water, education, tv, clothing, etc.
Sure, they can't pass an 8th grade math competency test, but that's on them.
The average nobody in Mexico literally has the equivalent of a 3rd grade education. Some very basic reading, very basic addition and subtraction. That's it. Section 8 housing is luxury compared to the favela-style houses many live in.
Not only that but they've been conditioned their whole lives to scrape by without notice of the local cops or thugs. Nobody takes the risks of starting a successful business because cops and thugs will stop by regularly to take any profit and then some. So nobody is an entrepreneur or risk taker. That's a sucker's game.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 27, 2015 08:17 AM (jhqr1)

323
I am suddenly very glad I got to briefly meet Leonard Nimoy back in 2010 at a comic convention in Dallas.

This weekend in Pensacola is Pensacon where Nichelle Nichol will be among the guests. I hope the fans stay classy for her sake.

In case you haven't heard, tomorrow is Chelsea's birthday!
will you sign our card to wish Chelsea a very special birthday?

"Dear Chelsea...*types* *deletes* *types* *deletes*

...and your little dog, too."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 27, 2015 08:17 AM (FsuaD)

325
>>So of course importing millions more poor, unskilled, uneducated, unvaccinated, disease-bearing
foreigners, and putting them on the dole, is a great idea. Just think of
the billions and billions of dollars in welfare benefits they'll
consume each year!

And the public school overcrowding requiring Spanish language instruction, not to mention to toll on our prisons (like the one that just had riots) seeing as these masses include criminals, cartel members, and MS-13. Just think of all the jobs this creates!!

337I've never understood that either. "Malcolm X was murdered by The Man." Huh? Were there a lot of white men attending Nation of Islam meetings in Harlem? I doubt it. I doubt it very much.
It's like the Palestinians. If Hamas does any operation that has massive local blowback, they'll switch smoothly from claiming credit to blaming it on the Jooooos.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 27, 2015 08:19 AM (jhqr1)

338
What's scary isn't that politicians do this shit. The scary thing is that such a large proportion of the population is fine with it. What the hell is wrong with people?
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 27, 2015 01:10 PM (eLZyM)
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Perhaps it's because more people are finding out that there's no opposition or representation in DC anymore. I'm hoping that once this settles in their minds more, they'll be willing to get up and do something. Although, I will say that I'm not holding my breath for this.

Posted by: Soona at February 27, 2015 08:19 AM (2m9tr)

339
oh, more from the Chelsea birthday card thing...
We've loved watching Chelsea grow into a remarkable woman and mother. Now, we want to show her how much we appreciate her by putting together a huge card full of thousands of signatures from across the country.

Posted by: mallfly of the MSM at February 27, 2015 08:19 AM (bJm7W)

340
Government is the only form of organized crime I know of that can literally steel money not only from the living and the dead, but also from those people who have not even been born yet.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 27, 2015 08:19 AM (zpZLP)

341
There was no "illegal" activity .. it was merely "undocumented"
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Ha ha! But the documentation's out now, b*tch!

343293
So just keep moving forward, shuffle forward, ever forward, inch by inch, step by step, slowly I turned. Niagara Falls! (obscure three stooges reference)
Posted by: Economics Loo at February 27, 2015 01:12 PM (UYVd+)
I was thinking of the song "Don't Call Me Dude" by Scatterbrain. Interesting to finally find out where it originated.

Posted by: Big McLargehuge at February 27, 2015 08:20 AM (u9OP6)

344
Definition
Congress has the authority to hold a person in contempt if the person's conduct or action obstructs the proceedings of Congress or, more usually, an inquiry by a committee of Congress.
Contempt of Congress is defined in statute, 2 U.S.C.A. § 192, enacted in 1938, which states that any person who is summoned before Congress who "willfully makes default, or who, having appeared, refuses to answer any question pertinent to the question under inquiry" shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and subject to a maximum $1,000 fine and 12 month imprisonment.
Before a Congressional witness may be convicted of contempt, it must be established that the matter under investigation is a subject which Congress has constitutional power to legislate.
Generally, the same Constitutional rights against self-incrimination that apply in a judicial setting apply when one is testifying before Congress.
Link: http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/contempt_of_congress
Lots of s.o.bs should be afraid. But hell they will get bonuses instead.

346
Speaking of Reverend Al. Remember that disease where babies were born with abnormally big heads? Does Al have that?

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 27, 2015 08:21 AM (eLZyM)

347
@324 I am suddenly very glad I got to briefly meet Leonard Nimoy back in 2010 at a comic convention in Dallas.
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Someone on the Mekton Zeta list once mentioned standing in line to meet with him once... and bringing a copy of Transformers: The Movie for him to autograph.

Posted by: junior at February 27, 2015 08:21 AM (UWFpX)

348
I didn't think anything of this when this "scandal" first broke.
I thought that there would naturally be a lot of people forming groups to raise money for "Tea Party" this and that, and that a lot of them would be fraudulent. The IRS could then say, "Of course, we're targeting Tea Party organizations. We're not just looking for tax fraud; we're also looking for bunko, to protect conservatives from getting taken."
They could have gotten away with targeting their political opponents and made it sound like they were doing these groups a favor.
But this is the Obama Administration.
Obama and his people think "Win-Lose," to put it in Coveyan terms. It's not enough for Obama to get his way. Obama's opponents must also lose, and he has to let them know that they lost.
Forget what they stand for. This is how they govern. They must go. All of them.

350
I was thinking of the song "Don't Call Me Dude" by Scatterbrain. Interesting to finally find out where it originated.
The drag-queen Divine also used the "step by step" thing in some dance club song back in the Eighties, the name of which escapes me right now.

Posted by: Citizen X at February 27, 2015 08:21 AM (7ObY1)

351
re 338: didn't Looey Farrakhan almost admit the Black M's were responsible? or am I just becoming confused by happy images of Chelsea going from a goofy looking veal to a full blown cow..?

357
What's scary isn't that politicians do this shit. The scary thing is that such a large proportion of the population is fine with it. What the hell is wrong with people?
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Pipe down! I'm watching re-runs of Two and a Half Men!

This kind of thing for the Obamas has always weirded me out, like we're supposed to think of these people as family and celebrate each b-day w/Michelle and Barack, or included them in our Valentines day celebration.Freakin cult of personality stuff. Not American - our leaders work for us.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at February 27, 2015 08:23 AM (lHHyw)

359
So of course importing millions more poor, unskilled, uneducated, unvaccinated, disease-bearing
foreigners, and putting them on the dole, is a great idea. Just think of
the billions and billions of dollars in welfare benefits they'll
consume each year!
______________________
And criminals. Don't forget the criminals.
One of the many dirty little secrets of the Obama criminal cabal (I will no longer refer to it as an administration) is that their illegal "welcome mat" open-borders immigration policy is attracting thousands and thousands of foreign criminals into the U.S.
When they are caught and prosecuted for their crimes, many of which are violent, these foreign criminals spend some time in U.S. prisons and then they are supposed to be deported. Problem is that their home countries don't want them back -- for all the obvious reasons. So the criminals' native countries refuse to accept them, and U.S. law then requires that the foreign criminals get released back into the U.S., to continue to prey upon Americans.
The law also says that we can reduce/suspend issuing visas to countries that refuse to accept their criminals back, but of course the Obama cabal doesn't approve of that part of the law, so they just ignore it. It's a win/win for foreign countries that want to unload their criminals on us, and a lose/lose for us.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 27, 2015 08:23 AM (Fnyc2)

360
324 - Years ago, Nichelle Nichol was very gracious about allowing me into her gated estate in the san fernando valley to look for a lost pet once.

Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at February 27, 2015 08:23 AM (ucB75)

361Spock is not dead, vulcans live several times longer than humans. Leonard on the other hand......
will be replaced by the next Dread Pirate Spock.

Posted by: toby928(C) predicts at February 27, 2015 08:23 AM (rwI+c)

362
Camus regretted the continued reference to himself as a "philosopher of the absurd".

Posted by: Albert Camus at February 27, 2015 08:24 AM (e8kgV)

363
I hesitate to mention this since it is the oldest of dog bites man stories but economic growth for the fourth quarter was (unexpectedly) revised downward again.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 27, 2015 08:24 AM (XUKZU)

364
Divine: Native Love (Step by Step) - 1982
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si3rNypdZdE
That's the one I was thinking of. It was big during my Club Kid days.

Posted by: Citizen X at February 27, 2015 08:24 AM (7ObY1)

365
290 I'm guessing a 100:1 ratio in relative Leonard Nimoy obituaries versus IRS email coverage.
Posted by: Radeaminit at February 27, 2015 01:10 PM (Xv7f/)
It's a Friday so it's not like they'd cover the email stories much anyway if at all.
Even then, do you think they'd break away from their "WALKER SAID WHAT" stories to cover the email scandals?
Mr Spock was a cultural icon and a big part of many of our lives growing up and growing old.
I hope that some here are a bit classier about Nimoy's passing than they were about Robin Williams. I feel very sad today, so please try not to be like the proggies and politicize this.
"I always have been, and always shall be, your friend"

366Speaking of Moo . . .
Bovine steeplechase.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfCLGHhupSQ
If I'd known 4H meetings were that much fun I might have joined up.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 27, 2015 08:24 AM (jhqr1)

367
362 Spock is not dead, vulcans live several times longer than humans. Leonard on the other hand......
will be replaced by the next Dread Pirate Spock.
Posted by: toby928(C) predicts at February 27, 2015 01:23 PM (rwI+c)
The original Spock had been retired for fifteen years and living like a king in Patagonia when Nimoy came along.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2015 08:24 AM (2Ojst)

368
Fox Business
14 hours ago
Feb 26, 2015 · Investigators said Thursday they have recovered 32,000 emails related to a former IRS official at the heart of the agency's tea party scandal.

Posted by: comrade willow at February 27, 2015 08:25 AM (nqBYe)

369
"The original Spock had been retired for fifteen years and living like a king in Patagonia when Nimoy came along."
?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 27, 2015 08:26 AM (LA7Cm)

370
Nimoy hosted "In Search of..." back in the 70s.
That show always both fascinated me and creeped me out as a kid.

Posted by: Citizen X at February 27, 2015 08:26 AM (7ObY1)

371
re 350: from the Encyclopedia Britannica (!) website
They never received a raise in that time from their original annual salary of $60,000 (split three ways), although their contract allowed them to make personal appearances for 13 weeks each year, which proved much more lucrative.

Posted by: mallfly of the MSM at February 27, 2015 08:26 AM (bJm7W)

372Several people WILL go to jail for lying to Congress.
Oh ye of a whole lotta faith.

377
Several people WILL go to jail for lying to Congress.
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Oh ye of a whole lotta faith.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.
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Because I gotta have faith
I gotta have faith
Because I got to have faith, faith
I gotta have faith, faith, faith

Posted by: George Michael at February 27, 2015 08:28 AM (VAsIq)

378
"They never received a raise in that time from their original annual salary of $60,000 "
Sounds like crap but $20 large/yr in the Depression was a handsome sum.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 27, 2015 08:28 AM (LA7Cm)

379 Speaking of Reverend Al. Remember that disease where babies were born with abnormally big heads? Does Al have that?
Hydrocephaly. And yes, "Reverend" Al displays many of the symptoms.

384Sounds like crap but $20 large/yr in the Depression was a handsome sum.
Yes, but that was their best year. At the end their families were selling anything they could (endorsed checks for eg) so they could pay for medical expenses and later, funerals.

386
Looey Farrakhan almost admit the Black M's were responsible?
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Not long ago, a couple of years maybe, Farrakhan said that Malcolm X's death was none of cracker's business. Not exactly a confession but . . . .
Louie Louie, oh no
Sayin' they don't gotta know, no no no no no Said Louie Louie, oh baby
Said Malcolm gotta go

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 27, 2015 08:32 AM (XUKZU)

392I hesitate to mention this since it is the oldest of dog bites man stories but economic growth for the fourth quarter was (unexpectedly) revised downward again.
But unemployment claims are up...so, GREEN SHOOTS.

400
383 Any candidate who pledges to abolish the IRS, EPA, FCC, DEA and ATF will get my vote.
Posted by: gewa76 at February 27, 2015 01:31 PM (S9rS1)
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Then I guess you're voting for Cruz.

Posted by: Soona at February 27, 2015 08:33 AM (2m9tr)

401
The only way this shit is going to stop is you throw a rope around the beam in the hearing room and hang one of these SOB's.
Then you call for the next witness.

Posted by: Big Swede at February 27, 2015 08:33 AM (1lH1A)

402
I'm going to go punch a manatee in the face.
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/571375723522473984

403
OT: someone who iidentified himself as "Hector" just phoned into Rush to ask why he was against net neutrality and everyone's right to free internet service...
...did Rush just hear from our Special Snowflake?

410
kbdabear @ 290: "I hope that some here are a bit classier about Nimoy's passing than they were about Robin Williams. I feel very sad today, so please try not to be like the proggies and politicize this."
What saddens me is that you felt the need to say this. Alas, this is our world.
I'd like to remind you of Nimoy's recurring role in "Bonanza" -- another great show to which he contributed but will likely be overlooked today.
LLAP.

Posted by: FireHorse at February 27, 2015 08:36 AM (r5Qcm)

411
Tyranny
not "coming", here
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah
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Sorry, baby, I thought I could last longer.

422
Holder will serve as JPMorgan Chase's chief compliance officer, where his responsibilities will include lobbying Congress on the company's behalf and ensuring it "gets the best deal possible" from any new proposed financial regulations. Holder will also fetch morning coffee and breakfast orders for CEO Jamie Dimon and board members.

For his efforts, Holder will earn an annual salary of $77 million plus bonuses for a job well done.

429
Is that the Chelsea who used to be Bradley?
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No but she was named after him.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 27, 2015 08:41 AM (XUKZU)

430
@383 - Under Preznit JEM:
1) EPA gets a 50% headcount cut, loses cabinet rank, placed under Interior. A seriously independent EPA IG investigates what that agency's been doing for the past 20 years.
2) HUD, Labor, and Education all lose cabinet rank, cut 30-60% in headcount and budget, merged into HHS.
3) Energy and Transportation are merged.
4) DHS disbanded and responsibilities returned to DOJ and DOD as appropriate.
5) UN Ambassador placed under State.
6) US Trade Representative placed under Commerce.
That'll do for the first week in office.

Posted by: JEM at February 27, 2015 08:42 AM (o+SC1)

431
Speaking of the disgusting little troll, he was on here this morning talking about how Hillary(!) would destroy (actually, he said "kill" but that's another topic) Walker on the topic of rape. I would love to see that debate.
Hillary: "You once said blah blah blah.
Walker: "Putting aside your husbands...indiscretions...back in your lawyer days (insert despicable details of rape case). But you're right. What difference, at this point, does it make?"

>>>Sorry but if you want to convince me to not smoke Do Not Use Smokers Who Have Robot Voices.

They ought to use people who smoke only on weekends or when they're drinking to talk about how they've always avoided being hooked and how you can, too. Reduce the harm using positive role models that are accessible to smokers.

Posted by: Bigby's Spock Pinch at February 27, 2015 08:45 AM (3ZtZW)

441
@436 - I don't recall a single episode of 'Star Trek' that featured a crewmember in chador, or who could not be spoken to by male crewmembers.
So the show's obviously racist. Or faithist. Or whatever.

443
Should we go play in the stomped art thread? Only 100 comments to dig through there.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at February 27, 2015 08:46 AM (VAsIq)

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So fellow Horde -We have a President who -by his own admission - is expanding his power. We have lawlessness going on in our government -Benghazi, IRS, ATF, DHS, DOJ and the list goes on.....

Laws are flagrantly being violated by those sworn to uphold them.

We have the democraps who abet every move this administration makes.

The MSM is 100% complicit except when they aren't giving "freebies" to the democraps.

The GOP was put in power by us based on promises to stop all of the above, yet deem themselves powerless even with both the House and Senate. They hold hearings, listen to themselves speak yet there are absolutely no prosecutions. On immigration -the big issue for which we sent them to fix - they sell us out. They take impeachment off the table.

If this nation isn't f*cked by this administration - it will be in the next one. Whats going to happen next? Do you all honestly believe that the next president is going to rein in this executive overreach? Or will they test the waters even further since Barkey got away with it?

We hear states want to hold a Convention of States to address Constitutional Amendments. With all of the special interests out there, do any of us individuals think us "little guys" are going to fare any better?

So where does that leave us?

Third party? Its going to take years and years of growing this party into a substantial force - if it can happen at all.

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Posted by: Citizen X at February 27, 2015 01:40 PM (7ObY1)
Bush is last on my list but why act like immature liberals ? Just don't go to the speech. Or the proper thing to do is attend and stay for the question and answer session and pop him with some hard questions ,
And the guy organizing the walkout dresses up as a colonial soldier. Can't take him serious.

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On a different and yet same note.
I just read a headline that the R's may defund the FCC over net neutrality and the first paragraph in the article said.
"While some R's wish to compromise", I stopped reading there.
Consider it net neutrality locked in albeit a short song and dance for show as opposed to the long drawn out drama of this IRS fiasco that nobody will ever go to prison on when we all know they should.

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Thoughts?
Posted by: Joe Biden at February 27, 2015 01:47 PM (DlmoZ)
I think Ted Cruz should muster up an army to retake Cuba and turn it into a Libertarian paradise. And bring back the casinos. I'm sick of all this snow.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 27, 2015 08:52 AM (S9rS1)

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The only time one saw something like a chador was on the planet Psi 2000 when crew members were in bio-suits in the episode Naked Time. Also a shirtless Sulu.

I think Ted Cruz should muster up an army to retake Cuba and turn it into a Libertarian paradise. And bring back the casinos. I'm sick of all this snow.

Johnny Ola told me about a great act.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 27, 2015 08:53 AM (JtwS4)

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454 "While some R's wish to compromise", I stopped reading there.
Posted by: Drider at February 27, 2015 01:51 PM (35b4v)
This is the nub of it all. This statement implies belief that the left's narrative is correct/just/right, etc.
It's not. And yet, and yet.
Actually, the GrOPe is a wing of the Democrats and all this shit is kabuki for us unwashed scum.

>>>The GOP was put in power by us based on promises to stop all of the above, yet deem themselves powerless even with both the House and Senate.

Those are *our* concerns. They are agnostic on all of them, and sometimes opposed. Exactly like the Whigs about the expansion of Slavery in the States.

>>>We hear states want to hold a Convention of States to address Constitutional Amendments. With all of the special interests out there, do any of us individuals think us "little guys" are going to fare any better?

NO> We are being Farmed. Corraled. Herded. That's what passes for leadership.

>>>Third party? Its going to take years and years of growing this party into a substantial force - if it can happen at all.

Yes, 3rd Party. It may take years, although it may not, too. We need serious backers to get it moving. I, personally and despite major misgivings, think the Libertarians are the best bet. They're the only ones I know specifically dedicated to dismantling regulations and laws. Going wholesale like that is the only way to stop the trainwreck.

Posted by: Bigby's Spock Pinch at February 27, 2015 08:55 AM (3ZtZW)

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I am reminded of KFK's quotes that:
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
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Conservative are naturally disinclined toward revolution and violence but at some point, at some point it will become necessary. For such to start, we would need a state government or a, I hesitate to say, a confederacy of state governments to just say no.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 27, 2015 08:55 AM (XUKZU)

Net-neutering op-ed in the paper yesterday gave no indication that the vote was on party lines and no parties were identified at all. Apparently the FCC is a body of people deposited here by aliens for our own good, because there was no mention of their boss Obama either.

Think the editorial might have been a little different if it was Republican members of the FCC doing this under a President with an R after his name?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at February 27, 2015 09:25 AM (BaQuW)

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just got back from appointments.
I really didn't need to read this.
None of it surprises me.
Just more pissed than I was before.

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Suffering a little mental whiplash here. Earlier this week, when the American Sniper verdict was reached, Marcus Luttrell was quoted as saying something like, "Well, when the guys in the Texas prison system find out they're holed-up with the killer of an America hero, it won't go well for him."

I don't like this kind of "justice;" where the punishment is not imprisonment, but the street violence meted out during incarceration.

Then I read this story about government employees at high levels persecuting their political enemies, then lying about it through their teeth, knowing that no one will ever breach the onion of liars behind them, covering up their misdeeds.

And now I'm left thinking: There is no bull-dyke hairy, insatiable, or unsanitary enough with which Ms. Lerner can share a cell for the next ten years.

Posted by: red speck at February 27, 2015 10:58 AM (9/Ug/)

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Democrats think everyone forgot that Robert Byrd moved much of the government to West Virginia.