Only a lot of what he writes there is historically debatable and makes very little political sense given how the best people in the USA are the Dixie/Southern Nationalists who are usually (often very pious) Christians. The idea of worshiping yourself which both Cosmotheism and Reformed Judaism amount too just does not appeal to a lot of people who would rather wish to venerate something greater themselves.

Thinking that Pierce advocated going Joe Stack and flying your plane into a federal building is a misunderstanding of the books he produced and speaks to a lack of knowledge about the man in general. When Dr. Pierce condemned the Oklahoma City bombings, he was not selling one of our race's better men out to the media (he was Dr. Pierce, the bane of Jews everywhere ). He was making the same point you are, that we should organize first so that we might defend our race by any means. The Turner Diaries is fiction. It was not meant to be a "July Theses" with a nationalist bend. It was one depiction of a possible Civil War scenario, a scenario in which the government had all but disarmed the entire populace. In such a scenario, we would have no chance but to make war against the State as we would have no time or opportunity to act through it. Even then it was simply written to be good fiction for White Nationalists.

I've spent enough time on this forum to know that a lot of WNs do take the Turner Diaries far more seriously than that. The ultra-passive attitude of kipping your head down and organizing while waiting for the Turner scenario to take place seems to be prevalent among the more extreme crowd.

I imagine this is due to a sort of resignation in light of the decades upon decades of utter failure the American WN movement sits upon. It never had any outstanding intellectual who could pallet or "translate" its message -- as true as the message might be -- to the general public and it never seems to understand the society it is trying to reach.

While I admire Dr. Duke's efforts, WN seems to be in dire lack of an intelligentsia. Defaulting to the simplest mindset -- like the one proposed by Pierce -- is the only thing to do when there is nobody to formulate a better course of action.

I dont know enough about either men to comment to be honest.But I think it takes a kind of moral courage to come here and go against the grain.
If nothing else the people defending him will teach me a bit more about him.

I would think that it would take a lot more courage to come on here and go against the grain about another FAR more important historical figure...But seriously I have defended Cromwell in places where most people would think it suicide to and come out unharmed. I doubt that any of the Pierce fans will go to the bother of tracking me down.

Seriously though William Pierce only wanted "Professionals" in his organization. A lot of the ignorant snobbery that you fight against here I believe could well stem from him. In my experience self-thought manual workers who take an interest in things are often the most wise people you can meet because their brains havent been messed with by the current University system, they have a genuine love for knowledge that doesnt come from either greed or need to show their class and they have real life cop on. Let us all remember that Adolf Hitler was such. Seeking to exclude such people in practical terms I believe is beyond thick.

I would think that it would take a lot more courage to come on here and go against the grain about another FAR more important historical figure...But seriously I have defended Cromwell in places where most people would think it suicide to and come out unharmed. I doubt that any of the Pierce fans will go to the bother of tracking me down.

Seriously though William Pierce only wanted "Professionals" in his organization. A lot of the ignorant snobbery that you fight against here I believe could well stem from him. In my experience self-thought manual workers who take an interest in things are often the most wise people you can meet because their brains havent been messed with by the current University system, they have a genuine love for knowledge that doesnt come from either greed or need to show their class and they have real life cop on. Let us all remember that Adolf Hitler was such. Seeking to exclude such people in practical terms I believe is beyond thick.

So you are saying people that do manual work (real work) are not professional? They can not do work for money? or They can not do a "professional" job?
You think you have courage because you post anti-William Pierce crap on your computer?
You are right. Nobody wants to track you down, we have bigger jews to fry.

Only a lot of what he writes there is historically debatable and makes very little political sense given how the best people in the USA are the Dixie/Southern Nationalists who are usually (often very pious) Christians. The idea of worshiping yourself which both Cosmotheism and Reformed Judaism amount too just does not appeal to a lot of people who would rather wish to venerate something greater themselves.

This is not about debating history or self-worship, it's about fundamental differences between biological worldview and the Christian worldview. Check the so-called holy books and find anything which talks about preserving one's race -- you won't find it. Also, try to find anything which values master instead of slave morality -- you won't find it either. This topic is not easy to discuss, because people imagine slave owners and slaves when one mentions "master & slave morality". I mean this:

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Master–slave morality is a central theme of Friedrich Nietzsche's works, in particular the first essay of On the Genealogy of Morality. Nietzsche argued that there were two fundamental types of morality: 'Master morality' and 'slave morality'. Slave morality values things like kindness, humility and sympathy, while master morality values pride, strength, and nobility. Master morality weighs actions on a scale of good or bad consequences unlike slave morality which weighs actions on a scale of good or evilintentions. What he meant by 'morality' deviates from common understanding of this term. For Nietzsche, a particular morality is inseparable from the formation of a particular culture. This means that its language, codes and practices, narratives, and institutions are informed by the struggle between these two types of moral valuation.More: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master-slave_morality

Cosmotheism values that which is ensuring our evolution towards perfection, which is connected to evolution of our biological race. It is compatible with Nietzsche's notion of master morality, or to be more universal and not limited to one philosopher, it is compatible with the Natural order itself.

Seriously though William Pierce only wanted "Professionals" in his organization. A lot of the ignorant snobbery that you fight against here I believe could well stem from him.

Here he was not really clear all the time. He supported skinheads via Resitance Records, while he was sometimes talking against them in his broadcasts. Many people didn't like it. It is clear he couldn't reject their help, but at the same time he knew there must be some higher Order established, which goes beyond simplistic blue & white-collar divisions. Hitler realized this and created SS, and yes, we need elitism in order to progress, and it should be open to all people, no matter what social class of today they may belong to.