Wow. Really. This is just an unaswerable question. You exist regardless of if you deserve it or not so to some extent you don't have a choice. You do have a choice of existing or not after the fact so if you really believe you don't deserve to exist shouldn't you take the moral high ground, do the right thing and end it?

disclaimer: I'm not telling anyone to kill themselves so don't do it. If you're considering it find help. I believe we're here because we're supposed to be.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 09:39 PM

Exactly unanswerable. My parents act of fornication caused me to exist. I didn't ask them to fornicate nor did they ask me. They had me. This topic at least in the context as is, is rather hopless to contribute much of an answer to I feel.

SINcerely,

EDIT: This notion of a "right" or to be "deserving" of anything is solely man's own ego.

Edited by Dying Seraph, 02 October 2012 - 09:42 PM.

"The angel of self-deceit is camped in the souls of the "Righteous"--The eternal flame of power through joy dwellith within the flesh of the Satanist!"--Anton Szandor LaVey

"Tis' true my form is something odd but blaming me is blaming God. Could I create myself anew, I would not fail in pleasing you. If I could reach from pole to pole or grasp the ocean with a span, I would be measured by the soul. The mind's the standard of the man."--Isaac Watts

No matter how hard you try, there will always be people who judge and criticize you.

Posted 02 October 2012 - 09:42 PM

Render, on 02 October 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

In general. Why would anybody have to be deserving of life. Why couldn't you just be alive and that's it, no right to be alive and also no reason not be alive.

And who would decide what is the premise of deserving life? Do you need to become a well respected citizen in your lifetime? Can you be a smooth criminal?

I don't think it's about having a right to be alive, it's about having rights once you are alive.

Don't read too much into my passive post. I am not insinuating anything and if you thought I was then it was not my intentions.
But you do raise an interesting point regarding the "deserve/right to exist" thing...who is making that judgement?
How do we determine this so-called "right"?

Don't read too much into my passive post. I am not insinuating anything and if you thought I was then it was not my intentions.
But you do raise an interesting point regarding the "deserve/right to exist" thing...who is making that judgement?
How do we determine this so-called "right"?

I didn't think you were insinuating anything, no worries.
Im just saying there is no real right to existence, it just happens. There is no guiding -overseeing- force over it. Therefore there is no true deserving of life, life just is.

The boundaries which divide Life from Death are at best shadowy and vague. Who shall say where the one ends, and where the other begins?

Posted 02 October 2012 - 09:53 PM

Dying Seraph, on 02 October 2012 - 09:39 PM, said:

Exactly unanswerable. My parents act of fornication caused me to exist. I didn't ask them to fornicate nor did they ask me. They had me. This topic at least in the context as is, is rather hopless to contribute much of an answer to I feel.

SINcerely,

EDIT: This notion of a "right" or to be "deserving" of anything is solely man's own ego.

Yeah I agree I mean who is to say we have a right to exist, and the way we kill off animals is just insanely sick

COME WITH ME. OVERWHELMING POWER AND MADNESS AWAIT

THAT IS NOT DEAD WHICH CAN ETERNAL LIE AND WITH STRANGE AEONS EVEN DEATH MAY DIE

Just a passing thought, there seems to be this concept that we have a basic right to live..that we somehow deserve to live so I am just curious as to what you think.

Do you deserve to exist? Why or why not?

If everyone deserves to live, then why do nations like the U.S. continue with their death penalty crimes? Condemning someone to die can be easily translated into that they don’t deserve to live. I don’t think that existing without conscious willingness to be alive is a matter of deserving or not. We are and there is nothing more to it. Nor do I think life is so precious. Who then rises to the position of such great power as to deem a person unworthy of life?