Farmer are GM said the QB he like isn't the 4th overall pick in the draft, he's not the popular guy but he's a guy that fits what you want your franchise to look like so I'm guessing we will. It pick a QB at 4'ill say it's Garoppolo he has that Aaron Rodgers quick release.

Farmer are GM said the QB he like isn't the 4th overall pick in the draft, he's not the popular guy but he's a guy that fits what you want your franchise to look like so I'm guessing we will. It pick a QB at 4'ill say it's Garoppolo he has that Aaron Rodgers quick release.

since when can anything said by a front office member at this point in the year be taken to heart_________________2013 Joe Blackburn HOF Award Recipient

Farmer are GM said the QB he like isn't the 4th overall pick in the draft, he's not the popular guy but he's a guy that fits what you want your franchise to look like so I'm guessing we will. It pick a QB at 4'ill say it's Garoppolo he has that Aaron Rodgers quick release.

since when can anything said by a front office member at this point in the year be taken to heart

Never!

You can never tell what is real and what is smokescreen so I don't even bother to try. He could say that so someone doesn't trade up to #2 for a QB or so teams will contact him about moving up or just a flat out deception. Possibly even the truth but that seems unlikely.

Farmer are GM said the QB he like isn't the 4th overall pick in the draft, he's not the popular guy but he's a guy that fits what you want your franchise to look like so I'm guessing we will. It pick a QB at 4'ill say it's Garoppolo he has that Aaron Rodgers quick release.

since when can anything said by a front office member at this point in the year be taken to heart

Never!

You can never tell what is real and what is smokescreen so I don't even bother to try. He could say that so someone doesn't trade up to #2 for a QB or so teams will contact him about moving up or just a flat out deception. Possibly even the truth but that seems unlikely.

Very true. It could be the truth, it could be a smokescreen, he could change his mind when all the arguments come in._________________

Farmer are GM said the QB he like isn't the 4th overall pick in the draft, he's not the popular guy but he's a guy that fits what you want your franchise to look like so I'm guessing we will. It pick a QB at 4'ill say it's Garoppolo he has that Aaron Rodgers quick release.

since when can anything said by a front office member at this point in the year be taken to heart

Never!

You can never tell what is real and what is smokescreen so I don't even bother to try. He could say that so someone doesn't trade up to #2 for a QB or so teams will contact him about moving up or just a flat out deception. Possibly even the truth but that seems unlikely.

Very true. It could be the truth, it could be a smokescreen, he could change his mind when all the arguments come in.

I mean we also have to take into effect that he has not even had a chance to interview any of these guys either as well_________________2013 Joe Blackburn HOF Award Recipient

Then he proves he is an idiot_________________“From the ashes a fire shall be woken, a light from the shadows shall spring; renenwed shall be blade that was broken, the crownless again shall be king.” -- J R R Tolkien LOTR

At this point of the year, you have to go with pure logic and not off of one iota of what Farmer says (i.e. not wanting a qb everyone else is talking about). And logic dictates that the A. The most important position in all of football is the QB position and B. The Browns need to solidify their QB position, so I voted Yes.

In response to your statement Hornby... I'm not a Manziel fan, but that being said, if that's who Farmer chooses why would I be mad at him? Because I think as an amateur prognosticator I know more than a man who is being paid much much more than I make in a year to get these choices right? I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt until he deserves to lose it and assume he knows what he's doing until he proves he doesn't.

At this point of the year, you have to go with pure logic and not off of one iota of what Farmer says (i.e. not wanting a qb everyone else is talking about). And logic dictates that the A. The most important position in all of football is the QB position and B. The Browns need to solidify their QB position, so I voted Yes.

In response to your statement Hornby... I'm not a Manziel fan, but that being said, if that's who Farmer chooses why would I be mad at him? Because I think as an amateur prognosticator I know more than a man who is being paid much much more than I make in a year to get these choices right? I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt until he deserves to lose it and assume he knows what he's doing until he proves he doesn't.

Well said. This is exactly how I feel as well. I don't really care who the QB is, I just want them to work out._________________

1. Houston already said they would trade their number one pick. Why when you need a q.b. so bad? Because there isn't a Luck or R.G.III in this draft. It also wouldn't be a surprise to any one if they draft Clowney.

2. Rams want to trade down. I think if Luck and R.G.III was in this years class Rams draft R.G.III and say bye to Bradford. In other words they don't feel any of this years q.b's are much if any better than Bradford.

3. Jags also said open to trade down. Their owner also they will draft a q.b. or maybe two but maybe not at pick 3. Again you see a pattern of a team not right now sold on a q.b. that high.

4. Browns We've already discussed what we do with pick 4.

5. Oakland has been quiet. My guess is they hold on to their picks and probably trade down. Last year they traded down and did not receive good value.

6. Atlanta may trade up for Clowney but even Clowney has questions.

7. Tampa Bay see Atlanta

8. Vikes need a q.b. but their G.M. already said they want more picks not less.

You see a pattern here on the q.b's. Some of it's smoke some not. Two years ago we knew Luck was going number 1. We also knew R.G.III was going number two. If say Bridgewater was nearly as good as Luck Houston would say we are taking him.

9. lastly this is a deep draft. I'd say if you have two picks in the top forty or so it is like having two first rounders this year with the talent in this draft.
It even looks like our early 4th rounder is a middle to late third rounder. In other words I'm saying draft picks are more valuable this year.

10. of course it only takes one team to fall in love with a player to trade up._________________browns and indian fan 7272