10/4 Why is "boy" not a nice way to refer to black people?
\_ It's diminutive, boy. How's it feel, son? You ok with that, lad?
\_ So why isn't it offensive for everyone then?
\_ It is. But worse in this case because it goes back to when
they were here as slaves.
\_ who said it isn't? white people don't typically call other
white people "boy", however.
\_ I have some male friends from the deep south who use 'boy'
when trying to get a point across ("boy, y'all in some
serious shee-it"). -John
\_ i think you're confusing that with boy's use as an
interjection. like "boy! it sure is hot today."
\_ this question cannot be for real.
\_ oh really.
\_ of course it can. you know how many FOBs are here?
\_ I ain't no fob, boy. -op
\_ Using "ain't" like some fake wannabe southerner
doesn't help your case. You were better off
as a FOB.
\_ Then do you just know nothing of US history? Why would
you serioulsy ask that question?
\_ Sorry. My US history texts never discussed
the significance of the word "boy".
\_ "boy" is a term for a domestic servant- "my
boy" is like "my page" - that's why it's negative
\_ no, that's not the root reason. it's a
diminutive, and when used between two people in
a non-social relationship, it's usually an
diminutive, and when used between two men who
are not familiar friends, it's usually an
aggressive act to establish dominance. if i
belittle you it challenges you... the clues from
anthropology and primate studies are all there.

10/4 How many newlines are necessary at the end of an email?
If it had none, could that cause a mail program to complain?
\_ 2 in the mbox format
\_ Sure about that? I thought just "\nFrom " was required to
separate messages.

10/4 http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/10/03/bush.poem.ap/index.html
Come on MOTD apologists, defend this will ya?
\_ it's cute. affectionate. human.
\_ you forgot GAY.
\_ you forgot you're still a VIRGIN.
\_ sigh, the things a guy will do to get laid....
\_ yep, cool, huh?
\_ i've seen many crayon pictures that are more moving.
\_ bitter, lately?
\_ defend what? it's just silly stuff married people do. go get
a wife and see how silly you turn out. it's charming, actually.
\_ Don't be a schmuck. I hate Bush but I wouldn't think to diss him
for a dumb poem he wrote for his wife -AML
\_ It was dumb poem that was read at a press event. That makes
it fair game.
\_ Uhm, really, you're taking the "I hate Bush" thing way too
far. Just lay off the hate for a few days. Have a Coke and
a smile or something. Calling his silly poem "fair game"
makes you sound really hateful and sick.

10/5 Two links from the drudgereport that Israel has just attacked terrorist
bases in Syria. They haven't had direct conflict with Syria in 20
years. If this escalates, the entire Palestinian thing is going to
be resolved with mass migration out of the war zones.
\_ they've had plenty of indirect ones, syria has been secretly
and not so secretly funding terrorist groups that pick
at Israel, for 20+ years.
\_ And Israel has sent in agents here and there to execute people.
That's still much different than seeing F16s flying over Syrian
territory dropping bombs. If a real wat breaks out, the gloves
are coming off and there won't be any more noise about 67 borders
or land for peace or concerns about if Arafat is alive or not.
We'll be talking about going back to the pre-2003 borders until
the next war.
\_ two links from the drudgereport? no shit. wow. it's also on
cnn, nytimes, aljazeera, foxnews, bbc, googlenews, etc etc, but
if it's in the drudgereport, it must be news.
\_ Idiot. The drugereport just refers you to all those other
places. It's a bookmark service, moron.
\_ then why mention it, jackass?
\_ Because, my intellectually diminshed young friend, it is
easier to say, "go to the drudgereport, that well known
news site bookmarking service" than to say, "here's a few
really fucking long URLs" or "here's the shortened URL
so you have no idea where the fuck I'm sending you". -op
\_ so why post a URL at all, since it's on literally
every news wire on the planet, you
fucking dildo ass wanker jerkoff punk.
\_ To start this thing called 'discussion' or
'debate' or 'argument'. You know...like on a
message board. Jesus H Christ, just admit you're
wrong, pretend to be somewhat mature, and STFU. -!op
\_ to avoid the inevitable "such-and-such newspaper is
biased" free for all. -!op
\_ all media have bias but "left vs right" is probably
not the most troublesome one. they're too profit
driven to effectively serve the public interest,
with biases that favor blood and sensationalism.
see al franken, eric alterman, joe conason for more.
\_ and this has what to do with the op directing
us to the drudge report to avoid the argument?
\_ nothing. that wasn't my reason for it at all. -op

10/5 I've already voted no on the recall, but I'm immensely annoyed with
Davis' need to attack Ahnuld. It's just lame political strategy
and allows Ahnuld to claim victim status-- precisely the same way
AlGore gave away his lead by appearing to bully his weaker, less
effective opponent. When are the Dems going to figure out that
rabid attacks only make you look rabid?
\_ Never. That's what makes them Dems. They're rabid. The more rabid
they are the better they do in Dem polls and higher they clime in
the party. It feeds on itself. As far as Davis goes, why does it
surprise you that a man who lets loose the dogs of war in *every*
election would do the same in this one? You think Davis has
suddenly seen the light or something? He's still the same cynical
PoS he always was, thus the recall's success.
\_ Nice troll...
\_ It's a valid point.
\_ Anytime someone says something he doesn't agree with but can't
refute, it's automatically a troll.
\_ no it isn't. The republican party is much worse at being
rabid, foaming at the mouth, and at making up shit jsut
to attack people. Need I mention a certain deaf, drug
addict slimeball who made a career out of doing stuff like
making fun of the Clinton's daughter and calling her the
white house dog?

10/5 Is there any side by side comparison of Clark vs. Dean out there?
\_ Clark is going to be on cspan on monday night.
\_ Not sure but I don't get why Dean is "unelectable" when he is
actually more conservative than Clark...
\_ Because he's an ultra leftist who will lose all the moderates
and others who love this country.
\_ Ultra leftist? You're either joking, incredibly stupid, or
a troll. Given the "love this country" I'm betting you're
a troll.
\_ I thought by definition all libs (commies) WERE
trolls.
\_ Dean? Jesus Christ, man, have you *read* his manifesto?
The guy makes Stalin and Mao look moderate. I'm not a
troll. I'm more educated and well read than you are.
That makes you the ignorant one. Go read and then come
back here without that faulty troll detector firing off
left and right.
\_ Project Vote Smart will have the answers in a while:
http://csua.org/u/4me
\_ It's a valid point. (tm)
\_ Don't you know? Bill Clinton is a liberal, Hillary Clinton
is a ultra-leftist and anyone to the left of her is an
American hating socialist or a Communist. Just ask
Ann Coulter.
\_ You trying to say Hillary isn't an ultra leftist?
\_ Dean is unelectable because his knowledge of football is weak.
\_ http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/09/17/clark
\_ this article has nothing about policy. It's a history of the
dem campaign so far, and a little bio of Clark. It doesn't
compare the two at all. -nivra
\_ http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/09/17/clark
compare the two at all. -nivra
\_ But it 's from salon, a quality source of unbiased info!
\_ my question is, what is so special about Clark? Dean at least
has *SOME* sort of political record, while Clark, beside being
a 4-star general, offers nothing on the table for us to look at.
\_ How many Rhodes scholars from Arkansas have run against a Bush
and lost?
\_ Heh, send up the guy who almost started WW3. He isn't even
a registered Dem and you're drooling over him. Anything to
win power, eh?
\_ More like anything to get that jackass Bush out of office.
\_ Oh my, we never learn, do we? Always trying to choose
the lesser evil? Why not vote for someone good?
and lost?
a registered Dem and you're drooling over him. Anything to
win power, eh?
\_ the paradox: he would be President thereby
disqualifies himself as a worthy candidate. we
need a Cincinnatus.
\_ What makes one special? I think a 4 star general is something
special. Comparisons to Ike don't add up, but there's a lot to
say about someone who has a lot of experience in foreign affairs
He referred to the Philadelphia "Jets".
\_ http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/09/17/clark
(he was also nato supreme commander).
(he was also nato supreme commander).
\_ How many wars did NATO fight? And his record as NSC wasn't
so hot. Jimmy Carter was President of the United States of
America and that alone wasn't cause enough to elect him to
the role in 1980. He had more experience, therefore he
should have been elected, yes? Same thing in 1992 with Bush.
\_ Well...it's Florida...how about Mississippi? It's almost as
close. Or Alabama.
\_ "We'll try to stay cool and calm
when Alabama gets the bomb!"
\_ "Israel must not feel constrained in terms of defending the
homeland." -GWB There Bush formally said it. Israel has a green
light to do whatever it feels like and not feel bound by
the Geneva Convention, International Law, or any other
pesky constraints. Watch them nuke Damascus next.