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The fandom's fickle and a up until a few years back most of the hate was directed towards the third gen. I'm not entirely sure when it altered, but I'd probably suppose that midway through the sixth gen the general hate will change again and possibly be aimed at the fifth.

In general though I actually preferred the fourth to the third generation, or at least DPPt to RSE. Imo both the Pokemon and character designs were a lot better and I much preferred the music. I never really understood why introducing so many cross-gen evolutions was a bad thing though. I mean, the fandom generally regards the second generation as one of the best, if not the best, generations.

2. Poor use of the region. When I saw Snowpoint/the mountains, I was really looking forward to seeing a plethora of new ice pokemon. Snover was cool, but we couldn't even get Snorunt/Froslass or Sneasel/Weavile in the original D/P. Also, there was no real city/area which really inspired me.

3. Uninspiring pokedex. Just three fire pokemon (of the same line) plus the abomination that is Magmortar.

4. Very few new pokes in the grand scheme. Many taken up by exceedingly uninspiring evos.

5. Post e4 wasn't great (though this is the case in almost every game tbf).

the only things i have to criticise about Diamond, is that, yeah, the controls were slow, yeah, the multiple evos of old pokemon took up alot of pokedex, but that the story was kinda all over, and it was very easy to not know where to go next.

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I never really understood why introducing so many cross-gen evolutions was a bad thing though. I mean, the fandom generally regards the second generation as one of the best, if not the best, generations.

Johto only introduced seventeen, Sinnoh had the unholy amount of twenty-eight. I love new evolutions and all, but I think that the dex can feel a little... clogged up if there's too many (especially considering that there were just over 100 new Pokemon in D/P).

Originally Posted by Snorunt conservationist

... but we couldn't even get Snorunt/Froslass or Sneasel/Weavile in the original D/P.

3. Uninspiring pokedex. Just three fire pokemon (of the same line) plus the abomination that is Magmortar.

This was my main problem with D/P. There was a real imbalance in the types available to you, which was especially hindered by the God-awful decision to leave eighteen or so of the new Pokemon post-game. I never understood why they did that.

Platinum rectified these problems, at least.

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Originally Posted by mjunior3

but that the story was kinda all over, and it was very easy to not know where to go next.

I found that to be one of DP's pros. It was better than being funneled through a tube like in BW.

The fourth generation (only referring to the non-remakes here) introduced a large, expansive region, but the new Pokemon kind of fell flat. Sure, there's tons of amazing Pokemon (Lucario, Weavile, Garchomp, Darkrai, etc), but most Pokemon that aren't related to a previously existing family (like with Magmotar and Electrivier) didn't really stand out as much as they should have.

Also, too many legendary Pokemon were introduced. Game Freak really only should introduce legendary Pokemon in small amounts.

I personally didn't get the 4th generation games myself but I played through them. I say I skipped over them hahah but they were alright. Definitely the generation I gave the least attention to though. Besides Cynthia. That's a given.

My thoughts on the failings of D/P/Pt... Played Diamond and Platinum and while Platinum does a decent job of filling in some blank spots I think the overall problem comes down to the world of Sinnoh feeling rather flat. Dull. Wasn't a whole lot going on in it. Not bad but hardly as exciting as the advents of previous generations.
Given that they were followed by HG/SS and I think that's why there's perceived "hate". Because the D/P/Pt games just don't measure up in terms of features, in-game events, Pokemon availability, post-Elite Four playability, technical innovation, even visually...

I don't hate them. I think they are very good games. Despite not being my favourite of the series, they are the games that got me into the series again. I like most aspects of the games, the only thing I don't is the designs of Pokemon, which I think are lacking in comparison to the previous games.

Having said that, I must disagree with the title - the games don't get very much hate at all, in fact, the generation got Pokemon extremely popular again.

Some people think, to many legendaries in it. Bad pokemon designs. Boring and so on. But if anything the pokemon are awesome, Sinnoh is my favorite gen, isn't boring,awesome evil people,great champion,and awesome. I have no idea why people hate it.

To my knowledge, it's because of either the storyline or the Pokemon designs. Or some combination of both. Neither has ever bothered me- as a matter of fact, several of my favourite Pokemon are from Gen IV. And I was absolutely thrilled when I played through Platinum the first time (and the Distortion World continues to get me to this day...).

I don't hate it but at the same time it wasn't "amazing".
-2 major things i didn't like-
1ş Needs more fire types.
2ş After making a team and fighting all the trainers and pokemon i find the league was overleveled compared to me.
My pokemon were lvl 40-45 and the league were around 55-60 kinda unfair in my opinion but not super hard or impossible.

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Idk about other people but I loved Platinum and Pearl. They were great innovative games and the Pokemon still looked like Pokemon unlike the newer ones lol so I don't understand why these games get so much hate

Some people would hate these games due to the geography of Sinnoh. There weren't many water routes;you had to constantly go through Mt. Coronet. I guess the transition from the Hoenn to Sinnoh wasn't prepared enough for some players. Coming with a somewhat forgettable storyline too, in my opinion, wasn't as great as some past generations.

Also, the colors were just... somewhat dull. I'm glad they "fixed" this in HG/SS though, because there were routes in Diamond that I honestly couldn't tell the difference from another route.

However, post-D/P/Pt was pretty awesome. Cresselia was roaming, Giratina was ready to be caught, Battle Zone was explorable, and the Pokeradar was available. I tend to spend more time on this game.. just for the ability to get shiny pokemon quicker. The route to hatch eggs on was longer for MMing and there was a Pokeradar, unlike HG/SS.

Yup.All the people thinking it's not "classic" pokemon. Well they can have fun with a creepy ice lady who copies human sounds, a pokeball, AND AN UPSIDE DOWN POKEBALL, a pile of poop and a bigger pile of poop.

I enjoyed Platinum too as some people have mentioned. It sort of reminds me of Pokemon Emerald on the Game Boy. The Battle Frontier was challenging and I think even more challenging on the Emerald but they were about the same.

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