How Abundance Mindset Can Save Your Business with Viola Hug

With many new business owners, we look to external validation to determine our success. Did we make money? How many likes on the ‘gram did we get?

So if we aren’t getting those things, how can one be have an abundance mindset without having an abundant amount of stuff (and money)?

In today’s episode of the 360 Health Biz Podcast, Viola Hug joins us to discuss the requirement of an abundance mindset in order to be successful in your business. She is a “started from the bottom now I’m here” type of story where she and her husband had nothing, but after adopting an abundance mindset and being grateful for the things they had, they flourished in their business.

In this episode, we discuss:- how sometimes you need to hit rock bottom in order to grow- how to have an abundant mindset when you don’t have abundance- you may have scarcity mindset even when you have all the things you want- self awareness is our biggest tool- getting your power back- do you want to believe your clients can’t afford you?

There are so many juicy & inspiring things said in this episode, we are going to have quotes for weeks! But we will leave you with this one from the episode “your energy which then changes who you attract because disempowered energy attracts disempowered energy”.

Viola Hug is an intuitive coach, author, podcaster, and the creator of the Abundant Babes brand. She coaches spiritual entrepreneurs who desire it all in life, into their next level of fulfilment, joy, alignment and wealth. Viola and her husband travelled the world full-time for 2 years before settling in Canada, while she built and grew her multiple-six-figure business online. She runs live online programs, masterminds, and she also takes on high-level one-on-one clients. She hosts a successful podcast called Abundant Babes, and is the author of the Amazon Best Seller “You are an Abundant Babe.”

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Christine:

Hello everyone and welcome to the 360 Health Biz Podcast, and today there is [Mary Round 00:00:07]. We do have our wonderful, pretty, and beautiful, and smart Canadian Kendra Perry, the co-hostess with the mostest. You have my humble self, Christine Hansen, live from Luxembourg. And we have a beautiful guest today which is Viola Hug, is that it? No?

Viola:

Yes.

Christine:

Yes. You have the best name in the world. I just have to read it again.

Viola:

It is the best name. Thank you.

Christine:

Viola and then the surname is Hug, literally like a huge.

Viola:

Literally, yeah.

Christine:

We're really excited to be talking to you. So Kendra is going to present Viola a little bit more in detail. And it's a topic that we both love to talk about but we haven't done it in detail yet on the podcast. So listen carefully.

Kendra:

Yeah, so really excited to talk to Viola today. She is an intuitive coach, author, podcaster, and the creator of the Abundant Babes brand. She coaches spiritual entrepreneurs who desire it all in life into their next level of fulfillment joy, alignment, and wealth. Viola and her husband traveled the world full time for two years before settling in Canada. Yes! Another Canadian. I'm from Canada too. This is awesome.

Kendra:

While she built and grew her multiple six figure business online, she runs live online programs, masterminds, and she also takes on high-level one to one clients. She hosts a successful podcast called Abundant Babes, which I'm going to subscribe and listen to right after this podcast recording, and is the author of the Amazon best seller, You Are An Abundant Babe. Viola, where are you from?

Viola:

I'm Canadian actually, originally. But I've lived very many places and when I was 16, I moved to New Zealand which is where I was mainly living until a few months ago.

Kendra:

Where were you born? Where did you grow up?

Viola:

I was born in BC but I mostly lived in Nova scotia.

Kendra:

Where in BC? I'm in BC, I'm just dying here.

Viola:

So I left when I was 10 days old. So I don't have a lot of history in BC. But just outside of Vernon.

Kendra:

Outside of where, sorry?

Viola:

Vernon.

Kendra:

Vernon?

Viola:

Yeah.

Kendra:

My parents live there. This is great.

Viola:

It's such a small world.

Kendra:

It's such a small world. Yeah, my parents live there. I'm in Nelson, BC. I love BC. But I just love the Canadian connection. I get excited to talk to people ... We're so happy you're here.

Christine:

I don't feel excluded at all, that's fine.

Viola:

Okay. It's totally cool.

Christine:

Right, now getting over my small-minded mindset, see the [inaudible 00:02:36] that I made here. Viola, tell us a little bit, you are in a field, you know, Abundance Babe, all of that mindset stuff, how on earth did you get in there? I think it's so fascinating to hear when people actually realize that there was such a thing.

Viola:

It is such an interesting question because I feel like I grew up always knowing that this possible. Like I remember when I was 11, I tried to convince my mom I was witch and I could move things with my mind. And when she [crosstalk 00:03:07]

Christine:

Really?

Viola:

... then I threatened to run away. I couldn't move things with my mind but I was very convinced I had to power to if I wanted to. And I always felt like I had this little inner knowing. And when I was younger, I felt like it was this secret. I was like, "I can do anything that I want in this lifetime, I just know I can." So I was little bit entrepreneurial and adventurous when I was a kid, but then as life happens, you kind of let that get squashed out of you. And I also had a pretty hard time in my mid-teens with my dad getting sick and passing away of cancer. And then that lead to grief and it lead to a lot of other things that were just not a very pretty time of my life, but definitely a transformational time of my life that planted a lot of seeds that then later blossomed into epic-ness in my life which I'm grateful for.

Viola:

But then, of all things, I decided to do a Bachelor of Science.

Christine:

Sure, that makes total sense.

Viola:

I know. I was like, "What could I do that is completely opposite to who I am? Let's do science." Although I must say, I loved it. I did human nutrition and biochemistry and all these really interesting things and it was great. But I left, on the other hand, with this one side of me that was very scientific and one side of me that was like, "I still have this feeling that we're magical."

Christine:

"There's more to this story." Yeah.

Viola:

Yeah. Little seeds that were planted along the way were things like I watched the movie The Secret and I was like, "That's cool." But it planted a little seed. And then I heard about things like the Japanese water experiments where they put love and hate on the outside of a water bottle and it changes the molecules of the water and it was these little things that were slowly developing my mind. And as I started getting out into the working world and I started becoming an entrepreneur and I started just all of these things. I was very much like, "Oh, well I have to know the right strategy and I have to know the right success tips," and all these things which are true to some extent, but it's like I went all in one that side. And when, after five years of, quote unquote "struggling" in that space, I was still struggling.

Viola:

I was like, "Maybe there's more to this." I talk about how I really, really tapped into the Abundant Babes vibe and brand was that through my story of my financial struggles because I was in such a hard financial place that everything up to that point of my life had been ... Like success for me was external validation, it was that I did my degree, it was that I was entrepreneur, that I made this much money, that I had a nice car. Those were the things I thought made me successful. And no wonder they always felt empty and there was always something else I needed to run for.

Viola:

But then, at this point, we were in so much debt, my husband and I. We were just like such a mess. We were making no money and we had nothing really left externally to prove that. I couldn't say I was successful with what I was going because I really wasn't. I wasn't making money. We had to sell all our shit.

Christine:

It's like, "I'm abundant. Yay."

Viola:

Yeah, and then that's when this really started to hit me is I started thinking about money and wealth and abundance and all these things and I'm like ... and long story short, what happened ... I know this has already been a long story, but long [crosstalk 00:06:34]

Christine:

We love stories.

Kendra:

Do tell.

Christine:

Tell all!

Viola:

I started to see that the more that I shifted my internal relationship with this idea of abundance, and the more that I allowed myself to think, "What if I'm actually already abundant?" And it was a very deep thought. I was like, "What if I'm really already there?" And I started to look for that in my life and I started to see how I was abundant. I had an incredible partner who just loved me so much and I'd go out for a coffee with my friend and she would pay for my coffee. And this and this and that would happen and it was all these little things that I started to appreciate. And the more that I tapped into that feeling.

Viola:

I remember the first time that I truly felt what I would describe abundant and successful in my life, I was sitting in the backyard on a blanket watching a move on a laptop with my husband because we couldn't afford date night but that was closest things that we could create for ourselves and it was just everything. It was the stars. It was the cuddles. It was the pillows. It was everything. And I was like, "If you can feel this good just in this moment, then what else is available?" And then from there, it was like that's when things really started to shift in my physical life from there.

Viola:

And then I launched my coaching business and then suddenly we're making enough to decide to ... Well, I say making enough, one month. We had a good month. And we were like, "Let's travel the world." But it was a different feeling at this point because now I wasn't being lead by what I thought was a good idea anymore, I wasn't being lead by any external idea of what I needed to achieve to feel a particular way, I was fulling being lead by this internal guidance system. This full feeling that I know I'm taken care of, that I know that I have incredible things to offer and to experience and I followed that feeling. And suddenly then my business blossoms and all these incredible things happen and here I am two years later pinching myself and I'm like, "Oh my Gosh, this is actually my life."

Christine:

Yeah, I love this story because I think a lot of people have a similar one in terms of that sometimes you really need to hit rock bottom or have this wake up moment where you stop comparing. I love that you said, it needs to be that much money, or it needs to be this car, but actually to realize what is the feeling. And that is what is so hard to describe I find. Especially for people who are in the space just before hitting rock bottom. And I don't want anyone to needing to be in that space because it's not fun. So if we can avoid it, all the better. So my question, I don't know if there's an answer to it, it might be rhetorical, is: do you think it's possible to get there without ever having had that, "Fuck, money is not there, I'm dying," shit moment?

Viola:

Yeah, you know what, I think it is. I think it's interesting because we are a little bit tapped into this mindset that it needs to be the rock bottom. Because when you're on rock bottom, you have something to push off. And sometimes we need that, because sometimes that internal drive, that energy inside of us is just not there all the way. Like it hasn't gotten bad enough that we're really willing to do what it takes. This is the craziest thing, willing to do what it takes isn't always this big, big scary thing. It's the scariest thing of all which is watching your mind every moment of the day, it is being able to pick yourself up and call yourself out when you're choosing to see through that mindset rather than choosing to tap into gratitude in a moment. And that's really the scariest thing because it's so simple and it's so available.

Christine:

I agree. And that's why I think so many people do everything else first. Like throw money at yet another program or yet another tech thing, because that's something that's tangible. And if you just tell them, "Be at peace and just think abundantly." They're just like, "What the fuck? That's not even real." And there's this person promising me to make six figures in three months is really because [crosstalk 00:10:42]

Viola:

It's that process. Let's go.

Christine:

And it's so weird, right? But I get it. I was exactly the same, spending tons of money and stuff, until I got quiet, [inaudible 00:10:52].

Viola:

Yeah, it's so easy to think that you don't have it, you must be missing something, you most not know something. Because that's what I feels like. I saw this graphic on Instagram yesterday and it was something like, "The creator said that they wanted to put something on earth that people who have able to find when they were ready that would give them away the secret that they can actually create whatever they want in their life." And then the hawk, was like, "I'll fly Into the moon." And they were like, "No, one day they'll discover it on the moon." And then, "We'll put it on the bottom of the Ocean." "No, they'll swim that far down." "We'll put it into the plains of the earth." "No, they'll dig into the earth." And then someone was like, "Put it inside of them."

Christine:

And they'll never find it.

Viola:

Exactly.

Christine:

It's right there.

Viola:

It is! It is right three. I joke around a lot. If I were myself giving myself advice, three years ago, I would be punching myself in the face like, "no, no I've already tried gratitude okay. I've already done that."

It is. And I think that's sometimes what we have to have compassion for ourselves for. It's not going to feel easy, it's not going to feel nice, but it's life, if we really just allow ourselves to go all in on that and say, "Okay, what would happen if not only I just sat in the morning and listed ten things I was grateful for". But I went through my day and I actually acted as if I really was grateful for those things through my day. If I could say that I'm abundant because when I went to the grocery store, the food was on special, like on special price, and that's abundance because, hello, I don't know if you've realized but that is money saved. And pretty much very time you go to the grocery store, there's food on sale.

Kendra:

It's true though, yeah. It's totally. It's really interesting because I've definitely been in that scarcity mindset and I see a lot of our clients and people, like some of my audience, they're like, people can't afford the cost of my services, there's not enough, there's competition. And I think it's hard to even recognize that you're in that state. Are there certain ways that people can tell that, "Oh shit, I'm actually not in an abundant state, I'm in this scarcity mindset."

Viola:

I think this is a really good question because as well scarcity mindset comes up in so many areas. Sometimes it's not actually because you have no money in your bank account. You have the money in your bank account, but how you feel about the money in your bank account's the problem.

Kendra:

Amen! I'm still guilty of this. I have tons of money right now, but I'm so freaking scared of investing [crosstalk 00:13:50]

Viola:

What if it stops? What if you don't make any more money?

Kendra:

Exactly. What if I invest it and it's then locked in and I can't get it, and I'm going to die under a bridge, which is ridiculous.

Viola:

Honestly, where your mind takes you.

Kendra:

It is. So I do observe it. That's difference. Instead of believe, now I'm just like, "Shut the fuck up. It's bullshit." But it's still [inaudible 00:14:13] though.

Viola:

Yeah, in terms of telling it as like ... I think self awareness is our biggest tool and it is one of those things where it just has to happen enough that either we notice or someone points it out to us. And I think that's the good thing about having a coach or working in a program or something where if someone can mirror back to your own shit. I just got off a call with my coach right before this, and I'm like, "Blah, blah, blah," and she's like, "Do you realize what you're saying?" I'm like, "Oh shit, you're right. This is bullshit. Don't worry. Nevermind."

Viola:

So self awareness is definitely key. Where I would say is if you feel that there is an area in your life that you're struggle. I'm not getting the clients that I want. Other people my industry, they're getting all the clients. They're better. They have better ricing than me. OR all of the clients that I get, or potential clients, don't have the money to pay for my services. When we notice that there's an area of our life where we're really feeling that struggle, then that is where we need to do the work, right. Because it's so simple. Yes, there's things we can do tangibly to change. But when we're in the right mindset, those things become more clear, right.

Viola:

So keep this in mind. If you say, "My clients can't afford me." Is that something you want to believe? Honestly, do you want to keep believing that? Cool. Then go for gold. But I'm going to guess, no, you don't want to keep believing that in which case what would you rather believe? "Well, I would rather believe that the right clients will pay me. That's that." Okay, cool. So if you start leaning in on to that belief and start saying, "If I believe that the right clients will pay me, then what if I believed in the person a little bit more that said, "I can't afford it." And I thought to myself, "I remember a time that I didn't think that but when I really wanted it, I wanted it." So I believe if they really want this and they're going to be the best client for me, they're will find a way to do it." And then we just say, "Okay, well when you're ready, I'll be here sending you good vibes."

Kendra:

Exactly. I think that's so important to have this distance, not to take it personally, and just trust that the vibe is there, it's on its way, and just to have this ... It's not the distance, what's it called ... this dis-attachment in a way.

Viola:

Yeah, that's so it. And then it's like maybe sometimes when we're experiences quote unquote "lack" in an area, it's also because we're deflecting our own stuff. So sometimes when we're receiving clients that are saying they can't afford it, there's an area of our life where we're not actually in integrity with clients quote unquote "affording" us. So many it's a chance for us to look at ourselves.

Viola:

I always say there's the trigger. Like, what's triggering you about it? Where in your life is this possibly showing up as well? And then we're also are you choosing to believe that? Because when we talk about manifestation, and love, attraction, all of these kinds of things, it's like energy, attracts like energy. And the way that we manifest, the channels that we manifest through, which we're always manifesting because our life is an act of manifestation, are the areas of least resistance.

Viola:

The areas with least resistance are the areas that we hold the most belief in. For example, when it comes money, sometimes people say to me, "Oh, I'm not making any money." I'm like, "Well, that's not true. Where are you getting your money from?" And they'll be like, "Well, my job but I'm not making any money in my business." I'm like, "Okay, so you believe it's easier to make money in a job than in your business?" "Well, yeah. Because I just go to my job and then I get paid." "Okay, well what about your business? Okay, well maybe now what we need to work on is your belief that you can actually make money in your business, right?"

Kendra:

Yes.

Viola:

It shows you. If we started to look at our challenges and say, "These are just showing us the areas that we can up level." Then we would have a completely different relationship with those quote unquote "hardships".

Kendra:

Great. I love this. I think we've mentioned this book so many times and it's just been such an eye-opener for me, and it's the Margaret Lynch, Tapping Into Wealth book. And I love it because it's not just the philosophy of abundance or law of attraction, but what she points out is, really astutely I find ... is that sometimes you don't know the mind fucks that you have in your head. So you inadvertently want to, obviously, attract money. So it's the law of attraction. So if I'm attracting money, then everything's fine. But inadvertently, you're actually really scared of money or you have all of these, she calls it a set point. There's only a certain amount that's safe for me.

Kendra:

In the book, she asks several questions that really point you towards those blind spots that you might have with money. And I think that's what a couch usually does one on one. So I would be really interested, when you work with someone, how do they change? How does their business change? Because I think that's sometimes when I tell people I have a coach that I work with. I do have a coach that I work with just on this, on my mindset, they're like, "What do you mean?" So how do you explain this?

Viola:

I think this is one of the hardest things to explain because I think there's rock bottom until life is good is one thing, and then good to great is a completely different game. At the beginning, you're like, "How do I make money? Can I even make money?" And then you're making money and you're like, "Oh shit, can I maintain this?" And how do you grow from this? Once it's no longer a need, once it's no longer out of desperation, like, "I have to pay my bills," or, "I need this money because I no longer want to work in a job." And it's suddenly like, now you have money. Then you have to build from a place of desire. Then it's what are you capable of? What's your potential? It's a completely different energy.

Viola:

And I feel the same thing happens when you work with coaches. Like when I first hired a coach it was because I was like, "she must know something that I don't know. She's going to teach me how to sell better. She's going to teach me how to do this." And although that was definitely a part of my experience with my coach at the start, what I've noticed is the more I've grown, it actually turned into something different. Now I don't need a coach. I desire to be in that energy, because there is magic that happens when you are let into the energetic bubble of some who has a mindset that is so powerful or has a business or a wealth set point, a money set point, that is at a higher level than what you have. Even being in that energy, you're going to calibrate up. That is science.

Kendra:

I just think it's so fascinating what people believe. It's like these stories that they tell themselves and they don't even realize it's a story and it's not true. And I see it a lot with when we're talking about money, the people in my city, they just don't prioritize health. They can't afford the cost of working with me. And you're like, "So you've seen inside all of their bank accounts?" And they're like, "Well, no." I'm like, "So how the fuck do you think you know that?" And they're like, "Oh, yeah." I think people get so attached to their stories, they have no idea. And that's what's so great about a coach right, because they do call you on your shit.

Kendra:

And I do love that idea of being in the realm of someone who has a higher money set point, because you start being successful in your business, you're like, "Sweet, I did six figures." And they're like, "But can you do more? You could do seven, you could do multiple six figures with ease." I think so many of us are just used to the people say, "That's just a one-shot." And having people around you who say, "No. There's so much money in the world and you can make us much as you want." Even when I tell people sometimes, they just look me like I'm crazy. "What do you mean?" And just like, "Why not?" And they can't answer it because obviously there's no reason why they couldn't. So I love that. I think it's necessary too.

Viola:

Yeah, exactly. And then there's game and then there's the whole aspect of like it can collapse the time around what you can create for yourself. I don't believe anybody needs a coach, I really don't. Because we are all magical fucking whatever, beings. And we can do the thing on our own. But it's, again, what energy are you calibrating to in your life. And then two, it is harder to see things when you're so close to them because it's your own stuff. So when you have someone who can mirror it back to you, you're able to one, if you're going through something that's hard, go through it a lot quicker. Like you said before, you could be sitting for months with this belief that nobody in your town can afford your services and then you could have one conversation with your coach and be like, "Oh wait, maybe this isn't actually true." And completely can shift your own energy, therefor it highlights where you can grow, and then you can grow. And it's just awesome.

Kendra:

Exactly, the potential. I mean, it's not even potential, it's just your birthright. That's why we grow on earth. It's just normal. That's what we're here for. We're here to be happy. We're here to be abundant. That's just normal. But indeed, it's the blind spots, and they're called blind spots for a reason, it's because you can't see them. You do need someone else to point them out to you. And I agree from birth, from being, you don't need a coach. It's just that we do carry all this crap with us. So you do need someone who listens to you and who can figure out what your fake truth is, so to say.

Viola:

And that's what I think is so powerful, though, is when you can tap into realizing that having a coach or whatever actually comes from a desire energy. You can really tap into that. It's like, "I don't need them, I desire to walk alongside a coach. I desire to be elevated by this person."

Kendra:

You just gave me my tagline for my business vaycay to Bali. "I desire." But it's true. It's very, very true. Just writing it down. So I think it makes sense for people who are ready, they will hear that spark. But let's talk about money. So when you start working with someone and they do come to you because of money struggles and it's this last resort kind of thing, how does it translate? What are the kind of stories that you can tell us about how this shift has helped them to actually convert.

Viola:

I think the biggest part about this is, I really loved the idea that there's both strategy things like that we can do, but then there's the energy work behind it. Because for example, one of the things that is so simple around money that really can shift your relationship with money is tracking your money and most people don't, especially women. Because it's just like, "Scary! I don't want to look at it." Like, "I'd rather turn a blind eye." Which I did for so many years. And then it's just like, you might hear someone talk about it and be like, "Oh tracking your money's really important, and where your intention goes, it expands, so as you put more energy and focus on your money then you can expand your energy around money." Yes, that's true, but your energy behind it is actually what makes a difference.

Viola:

The tracking the money is one thing but tracking the money and the energy of, "Oh, I have to track my money now because they said I would make more money if I did this." It's every different.

Kendra:

Yes. I totally believe so many people do. I did. And I was like, "Okay, now I'm tracking money, so obviously now it's all going to happen."

Viola:

Well that's exactly, it's not that I wasn't grateful for things, but its like even when I first was hearing about gratitude practice, I didn't get it. I was like, "Okay, I'm going my things I'm grateful for in the morning, where is my cheque in the mail."

Kendra:

Exactly. I was grateful, why am I not winning the lottery right now? Exactly, that's exactly it.

Viola:

Yeah. And so it's also got the energy in which you do it. So, it's like when someone comes into a space, let's say where I run a money program which I see this a lot. People join the money program, they do what they can and they invest, and they show up and then they're like, "Okay, now I'm really scared. Now, what about my rent next month? And what about this and what about that?" And it's like, yeah, I get it. But it's like, at the same time, as you change the actual way that you're treating money in your life. Because having consciousness around money is important, knowing your motives to why you buy. Like people who over spend money and they're just like, "I don't know, my credit card just maxed out." Hello, this is me in the past.

Viola:

But a lot of people, they're just like, "I don't know. It just did. I don't know what I spent it on." That usually comes from actually a disconnect between why you're buying things and usually you're trying to fill a gap, right, with that. So let's say you are going out and then you bought some clothes. You didn't buy the clothes because it was an intentional decision. It felt like the right align thing to do for you, you bought it because you felt like you'd feel more validated in the latest trend clothes or because you were emotional and it just felt like you needed to get your mind off of it because you didn't want to deal with the emotions.

Kendra:

I do this all the time. I love spending money. I'm like, "Amazon, what can I get in two days?"

Christine:

I know. I did it on [inaudible 00:27:39] I just literally caught myself browsing and seeing what I could out into my shopping cart. I took it back out, I have to say, because I was like, "Christine, stop this stupid thing, you don't need collagen thing." You know, it's like, amazing the skin. I literally thought, "No, stop this right now."

Viola:

So it's like at the same time that we're starting to take different actions, like we're tracking our money, we're being more aware of how we're spending, we're also starting to shift our energy around it. So one, the more awareness that we have, the more actually power we take back. Because I think one of the biggest problems is we're consistently giving our power away. When we say, "I can't afford it." Or we say, "People can't afford my services." What we're actually saying is the power is outside of us. We're saying that, "I can't afford it because there's a power greater than me that's deemed me unable to afford and the powers outside of me, I can't have money, because that person can't pay." It's like we're constantly giving our power away, we're constantly sitting in this space of victim hood and blame. And I know that sometimes that feels a little bit ouch on the ego, but it's true. It's just the way it is.

Viola:

And so we sit in this space and it's like, once we start observing that, we start taking our power back because we're like, "I feel like I'm not going to buy the chocolate today because I have three blocks at home." It's that kind of vibe. And we start getting this power back. But then at the same, as we're energetically working on it, as we're energetically starting to notice how our relationship with money is changing. Now, suddenly, when we check our bank accounts, we actually feel like, "Oh, I feel pretty neutral, now. I don't feel scared or terrified or whatever." And then suddenly you're starting noticing, "Oh my God, now I feel gratitude when I look at my bank account, even at my credit card debt. What's happening?" It's like energetically, you're shifting.

Viola:

So then what happens is how you speak about your offer suddenly changes. The belief you have In other people's power to also be in their power around money changes. The way that you even create offers and price your offers is no longer, "What do I think my clients can afford?" But what level of transformation do I want to offer my clients.

Kendra:

Preach.

Viola:

Right, so then it changes everything about your energy which then changes who you attract because disempowered energy attracts disempowered energy. Empowered, lit-up, confident energy attracts people who are ready to make a decision in that energy. So, it's kind of like a no-brainer at that point that your life changes.

Kendra:

Yeah, it's true. And I can totally vouch for this. It's crazy, it sounds weird, and it's intangible but anyone listening and knowing there's a piece missing the please investigate this.

Viola:

It's intangible because I feel like the changes are so minute at a time, but it's also, if you think about it scientifically or neurologically or whatever, like brain-wise, it's also activating the reticular activating system. The reticular activating system's the part of the brain that when you say, "I'm going to buy a new car." And suddenly you start seeing the car everywhere. That's the part of your brain that's being activated. Essentially, it filters everything you see. Because the amount of information we see a day is just crazy, crazy, crazy. And this filters it out to that you only notice seven to eight of the most important things that your brain thinks is the most important based on what you've told it is important.

Viola:

And when we're in a space where we think that we don't have enough money, that we don't have enough clients, and everyone else is better than me, your reticular activating system is actually set up to look for proof of that. So, that's what you see more of. Then when you start changing that and you're like, "Wait a minute. What if people actually really do love my stuff?" And, "What if people actually can afford me?" Then suddenly you're celebrating your one client way more than you every thought. And I'm just like, "As you should be, because it's kind of rude if you're not celebrating what [crosstalk 00:31:36]

Kendra:

Yeah, agreed. Agreed.

Viola:

Like, let's be honest, I'd be pissed if my coach was like, "Oh yeah, but I only have Viola." I'd be like, "Rude."

Kendra:

"Excuse you."

Viola:

"No you don't." So actually on a scientific level it makes complete sense how this actually then changes your actions because then you're feeling different about it. It's the circumstance, then your thoughts about it, then that generates the feeling which generates your action which generates the result. And when you change your thoughts about it, it will change the whole cycle.

Kendra:

Right. You're very magical. I love this. Thanks for the science bit. I love that kind of stuff.

Christine:

Yeah, bring in the science for our nerdy audience.

Viola:

Yeah, but if you do like the science, I always recommend Joe Dispenza's book: Breaking The Habit Of [crosstalk 00:32:25]

Kendra:

I'm obsessed with Joe Dispenza right now. I want to go to one of his retreats because I feel like so many people have been to his retreats by now that I'm like, "I feel I miss out." But I really want to go too.

Viola:

We should go to one in some random place.

Kendra:

We should. We should.

Viola:

But you have to travel, Kendra. You do know that.

Kendra:

Well, I'll go to one in North America. I'm fine with North America. I just don't want to be jumping time zones.

Viola:

I'm sure he'll do them in Canada too. I can come to Canada.

Kendra:

They're normally in California and stuff.

Viola:

But if you don't know him. The first book I read of his was Breaking The Habit Of Being Yourself. And I just loved it. So I think that's maybe a good one to start, just from personal experience. But for those who are skeptical about this and the way I was, that was what actually made me believe in a way. For me, as well, like I said, I've always had this part I'm like, "I'm sure we're magic." But also, "Prove it."

Kendra:

Yes, exactly.

Viola:

Now I've definitely tapped into surrender a lot more, because I've also gotten to the point now where I'm like, "Why do I always make things hard for myself?" We know WiFi works, I don't need to fucking see a manual on how WiFi signals through the air for me to use my phone, you know what I mean? I'm just going to use it. It makes my life easier and so does this energy work. I did have that skeptical time but now I've just kind of been like, "Whatever, it makes life easier to believe this, whether or not it's true."

Kendra:

It works. It just works. It's so weird, but it really works. And there's just so much more proof in your life when you sit back and they just happen. You can't explain it. It's just believe it, dude.

Viola:

Yeah. That's what I say too, is just have fun with it, just play. Well, what if you could just go through your day to day and notice one way that you're abundant that you may have not usually picked up. And then it's like, "Yeah, I found a penny on the floor." Well, apparently they don't have pennies in Canada anymore. I say apparently because I never have cash.

Kendra:

I know, I don't either. When people want cash, I'm like, "What? What do you mean? I don't have 'coins'."

Viola:

My husband sold his camera and he got a 100 dollar bill and I'm so excited about it. I pressed it all flat and I'm keeping forever because it so cool and I'll put it with my crystals and attract more money. I like holding money bills but it's just like I don't really like having it for spending, but it's fun to look at.

Kendra:

Yeah, because I don't like spending them because it's just like, "Bye." And of course, I actually learned from my coach that energy that you have when you give away your money is super important actually you're just like, "You're coming back to me ten fold," or, "It's just circulating around. You're going to your next person where the next bill's coming to me." And that was also something that I realized because I was always, you know, when I did have cash and then my wallet was empty, I'd be like ... Which is bullshit obviously.

Viola:

But that's that point that you just said about your energy, for anyone listening, keep this in mind for when you spend on your daily, like when you spend on your rent, remember that you're spending because you live in a house or an apartment or whatever. You're not just spending money to someone who's collecting it in a basket. You live somewhere. But then as well, I think it's really important to be intentional around investing with this. If you're going to invest, you can feel the fear and be scared and do the whole dance between, "Should I do it, shouldn't I?" But then when you decide to do it, be intentional. I don't know, put on some music, dress up nice, out your hand on your heart, just really be intentional about how you send that money off. Because I really feel like that makes a difference.

Viola:

And one of the affirmations that I love with spending, even just at groceries stores and stuff is, "Thank you, thank you, thank you. There is always more where that came from."

Kendra:

Exactly, and it's true. Agreed. Agreed.

Christine:

This is amazing. Kendra, do you have anymore question?

Kendra:

I don't. I just love it. Because I think a lot of us, we were trying to change our external world, hoping that's going to shift our internal world, but really if we focus on our internal world, we might be complete blown away by how that shifts our exterior world. So I just love that. I just love the message in this episode.

Christine:

I agree. And isn't it interesting that very often we have these conversation with people who are at a certain level? That's really what I realized, the more successful people very often are, the more you can tentatively mention this and they're like, "Oh yeah, totally." It's weird. Where you would think, "Oh, they're so successful, they're really businessy and very smarty," And then you mention someone one Joe Dispenza and like, "Yeah, I'm their biggest fan!" And it's like, "Oh." So you do realize that very often there's this threshold. And a lot of people who are successful, they are totally [inaudible 00:37:18]. They are humbled because they understand that you don't need to understand everything. If you want to play a higher game, you need to understand that as a human being, we don't understand everything. There's so much more out there. And I think that's also a game changer, really.

Viola:

Mm-hmm (affirmative) Absolutely.

Christine:

All right. Well, Viola, you mentioned a couple of your programs already, so tell us a little bit about how people can reach out to you. You mentioned Instagram. How do they get in touch with you? Where can they stalk you? Where can they google you?

Viola:

Yes. So I love chatting with people. Connection is a really important thing for me. So Instagram, I love hanging out with my Instagram stories, I feel like I'm ridiculously embarrassing on there, but I think I'm pretty coo, too. So if you want to come hang out with me on Instagram at Viola Hug feel free to message me as well if you have any questions over anything that we talked about on this podcast. Other than that, you can find out more about my work. I have a range of different programs that I do and I also work with one on one clients, violahug.com. But seriously, feel free to reach out, I'm not going to not DM you back. If you have questions for that. And then my Abundant Babes podcast. And my Abundant Babes Facebook group as well which you can find just by searching both Abundant Babes. I think those would probably be the main ways to get in touch. And if anyone else is listening who has a podcast, I always love being interviewed on podcasts too. So, you can always feel free to reach out.

Christine:

That's such a good call to action. Very smart lady.

Kendra:

That is a good call to action. I love that. Very abundant.

Christine:

And vice versa, if you ever want to have us on your Abundant Babes podcast, we're also available.

Viola:

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Christine:

We would love that.

Kendra:

See, taking action right there.

Viola:

But for everyone listening, this is the magic. I really, really believe in the power of authentic connection and communication and all these things because cool things happen that you never would've expected.

Christine:

There we go. All right. Well, thank you Viola so much for your time. We've enjoyed this tremendously. This is of tremendous value. Even if you guys are a little bit skeptical, believe us, this is golden.

Viola:

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Christine:

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