The QuakeCon 2010 is taking place at the Hilton Anatole Hotel in Dallas between the 12th and 15th of August 2010. This convention is hosting 3 sponsored tournaments for Quakelive and several tournaments in the BYOC.

Update: All the matches are now over! Watch out for VODs and demos in the near future.

"I recently stated on this past weekend's International Video Game Hall of Fame event and Live On Three that I would be providing scores, interviews and features coverage live from QuakeCon 2010 for Tek-9.org, Crossfire.nu, and here on ESReality. Due to circumstances beyond my control, I will no longer be attending QuakeCon, and will not be able to make any on-site updates.

I will still attempt to make off-site updates and coverage from watching the stream and talking to my contacts at the event. Sorry to those who wanted more content!"

frequenting a very troll heavy gaming forum should be a giveaway that I might also be familiar with other aspects of nerd-dom, including internet memes.
It seemed obvious that the person wasn't likely in mortal danger, so I assumed the actual post [mash] was a reference to said meme. I simply worded the meme in proper fashion, then was corrected by people who I assume english is a second language for, to show off their proper english grammar skills, however, I'm very familiar with proper english grammar so I pointed out that I was merely quoting a meme that I thought was already being referenced by someone else, and thanked syanid for attempting to help me with my grammar, and in a friendly way tried to explain that I had not actually made an error in my typing.

Then you came to the rescue, white knight that you are, and pointed out that at 29 I'm obviously far too old to be quoting memes or be aware of the internet in general.
Here are some other things I've picked up that you may not be aware of.

I'm not intending to troll, so if you judge it by that respect you could say I fail, yes.

What's funny is that esr common practice when failing at a conversation is to shake everything off by saying "i was just trollin ya lol", even after you have fervently sustained your point with thought up arguments. It's a perfect escape route, since you can always defend your "not really caring" attitude over the internet. But sometimes, you can virtually see them trying to cough up some decent reply, fail at doing so, then retreat to the trolling escape.

didnt draven said on some stream that he will team up for ctf with cooller, strenx etc? cant see any such epicly epic team. would be fun to watch cooller and strenx in defense fighting, taunting and stealing items from each other.

On t7 and battleforged he would lose vs any serious opponent. t7 is a map that he simply hates and tries not to play on it as much as possible (including practice games), and battleforged, well, he's just cba to learn it, so he pretty much doesn't know the map at all.
Hub is also not his kind of map.
So he only got 2 maps that he feels comfortably on and still we know from previous tourneys that he can lose on them pretty easily.

He never beaten rapha on t7. And about av3k... well, if you have 90% chance of losing on some map and play 10 games on it throughout your tournament career, then there's a good chance that one of them you'll actually win :) Still he lost all the other t7 games very badly.
About battleforged - there's a webpage where cooller answers questions (cba to remember url and it's in russian anyway), and he said there that he always hates to learn new maps and right now can't even orientate himself on battleforged.

If you can watch the ESWC Finals match (2005?) between CZM and Cooller. There are some AMAZING HUB games from that tournament. The entire finals series was top notch and a text book example of how to mentally destroy your opponent.

They matter only to viewers of masters tournament. And it's not about specific players. Basically, if we stop offering equal conditions for everyone on tourneys, then the value of winning will diminish, because what makes us admire these top players is precisely their ability to do better than others in the same situation.

its just quakecon cos theyre badly organized releasing pools with new maps such a short time before...and the fact is randomers like gillz are canon fodder...you could place rapha/av3k/cypher against him on a map theyve never seen before that he has been playing for months and they would still beat him because the gap is too big...the only way its going to have an effect is e.g. rapha/cooller got to play the map before public release but cypher/av3k didnt...even then it shouldnt really matter because theyve had 1 week to learn 1 map? its enough and theyll learn it more while at quakecon killing off the canon fodder in the early rounds & practicing

Official Stream just links to Quakelive where there is no stream and no indication that one will ever exist, the Flickr gallery is mostly pictures of people with beards moving things, and there doesnt seem to be a confirmed list of competitors, just hearsay that so and so won't be there.

Source? I don't want to stay up all night, because I have to learn and therefore I need at least 7 hours sleep .
How can a power cord catch fire anyway?
Maybe they should get rid of those illegal Mexican immigrants :x

I don't give a flying fuck. Don't support Linux anymore? Well thanks, don't need to waste my time on your dumb shit any longer.

When was Doom3 released? 2003? Since then he's been sitting in his cellar, trying to reestablish himself as tech innovator. 7 years. And comes back now talking nonsense about platforms he doesn't seem to understand. Maybe he's been rubbing his dick too much lately, on his iphone.

Really, get this loser out of my face. Not a single word about games and game play. Just pixels, memory and blah. Pseudo tech blabber which, at it's core, is really just half witted marketing.

I'd feel pity for him, hadn't he accumulated those millions he could send into retirement an entire city with. Instead, he's blasting useless rockets into the sky. What a clown.

I didn't forget. He forgot though, to mention that it was Linux that made the fucker. Because it's been Linux on which Doom came to world wide fame, specifically because it's been distributed freely with Linux around the globe.

So it's not charity. It's giving back. He made his money already anyway, and more than enough of it.

Regarding your standard "charity" remark, just know that free open source is at the core of the internet you're currently wasting your time on. Your ass is living off "charity" every day. Maybe playing "free" QL even.

Anyway, "ubuntu" hahahaha. The grandpa distribution, the most easy to install and use of them all. Maybe nice of him to maybe recommend it, but that's surely not tech geek level talk. As said, he better sticks to his user friendly iphone which he obviously likes promoting.

Yeah. Add to that all the linux servers id games have been running on for what? two decades? Thus supporting the game and, by that competition, keeping companies like MS at the prices you're getting today. Allowing for more and cheaper hosting services etc etc

You'd be paying a multiple what you do today not only for software but also for services, if it wasn't for Linux. But then, I guess a fair share of strong "charity" opponents are pirating their software and hacking their modems for more bandwidth anyway.

No. You should have been saying "what, you keep your desktop running for a month, what about energy savings"?

And I would have told you that it hasn't really been on all the time, but that I'm just suspending it to ram during off hours. It just hasn't been rebooted for a month.

Ok, s2ram isn't really "green" either. But I'm actually working on this PC, and have a shitload of windows open distributed across 6 virtual desktops. Including 18 firefox windows with >100 tabs open. Restoring that environment each day just isn't an option.

Also, this might help you understand why I'd rather kill myself than using Windows as a work environment.

Because then you'd understand that Carmack, with his 64gb ram and "recently discovered" parallel processing blah, has pretty much gone insane. He wants you to buy a 50 buck game, and then a rig for several thousands to run it. A rig which would be sitting 99% idle while you're doing normal stuff anyway, but still sucking electricity like crazy.

That's also why those fuckers depend so much on blinding hype. Because they desperately need to prevent people from actually thinking for a minute.

linux is only where it is because many big companys invest billions into it ... the only unix I have liked so far is FreeBSD ... but well I am a user, and I need usability and compatibility, therefore I returned to Windows 7, very fast on my notebook, and I have it installed since one year, not one single crash. On the other I hand tried out the so called stable Ubuntu 10.x stable LTS release or something like that ... and Poweroff button just disappeared ... if I didn't know from my past freebsd experience how to shut the system down in the command line, I could even have powered it off ... or the suse 10.1 distribution didn't connect my WLAN device ... linux still has a long way to go ... anyway what is so elite when you can configure a system by text commands and setting config files ... I don't see how you are nearer to the core and understanding than when using a self-explaining GUI ... a lack of gui and needing to set up configuration files are moreover a lack on the developerside to make the system userfriendly ...

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but u...

Uhmm, there be quake anytime soon? Theres some skinny guy with glasses talking bout the iPhone,
Was so looking forward to it while getting drunk.
I'll give them another hour before officially calling this fail.

Oh, fuck this shit. It's a QuakeCon and theres some moron talking about his fucking Wii. Can you be more gay?

Got dammit! We have all these great teams ready to rock and freaking roll, and we get speeches? I want to see some quake action! I'm tired of playing right now, I have nothing to do but watch some ass kicking online take place. Oh my goodness, there's more talk. :((

I actually thought it was kinda interesting in some points, but it's got a bit boring...

Unless the next segment of this presentation is about how they're gonna send the winner of Quakecon's duel into space with the raffled Ford Mustang, 2 tons of grade A crack cocaine, two midget wrestlers and a subscription to QuakeLive, I aint interested

You fucking kidding me aren't you? I wasted two fucking hours to listen to this crap so that I won't miss anything. Then we get promised " Waiting for LAN severs before the matches begin. There were issues with the sever, but those have just now been resolved and we should have them spun up soon. " and I'm still sitting here at 1.29 expecting some games and now this -.-
Fuck I'm pissed right know and don't bring up some lame excuses you fucked up again an event.

I don't want to hop on the bandwagon and rage at them for having problems. We all make mistakes, unforseen things happen, it's just a game, etc. But I really don't like the fact that they lied to us about it, and kept saying with certainty that things were about to happen when in fact they weren't. They probably hoped that what they said was true, but they must have known that they weren't nearly as certain as they implied.

Sure, people make mistakes and it's ok to let some of them go. But they make mistakes year after year, tournament after tournament. They can NEVER get things to work properly, and they never seem to learn from their fuckups. When mistakes and lying have become the norm should we turn a blind eye?

we all knew quakecon tournaments really don't start at the first day, no surprise here.

On the other hand Carmack's key note was just like every year: interesting (don't want to say it wasn't entertaining in some parts or that he made a thousand excuses for not working on his most successful series for more than a decade...but those are implied on that word)

funny thing is they talk about aerodynamic but in space u dont have "air" so u dont need aerodynamic.

next, is there is no need for us (humans) to be in the space. they should spend there millions of dollars in other things. this guy has seen that the earth is a limited area and that we should have an eye on our resorces.

There was no need for Europeans to discover the so called New World either. If all people in history had a spirit like you do we would all still be in caves. ;o

Just watched it for like half an hour but I'm sure they know what they are talking about and didn't just forget about the absence of air in space. The rockets start on earth so maybe aerodynamics wouldn't be a bad idea.

of curz... but the overall trick is to pass the gravity... shooting a little rocket into the air is realy easy. if u make it bigger u need more "fuil" but fuil have a weight too. so u cant build infinite big rockets.

if u bring it to the easyet thing. u shoot a object to the sky and this need energy. how much energy depent on the weight of the objekt.

so where does the energy come from? i cant see any improvement on the "engine". the rocket model is over 60 year in testing and there is no improvement. toying with small rockets is bullshit if u look at the simple physic behind it.

an economic thing would be if u can move to the space with the energy of ur body. like riding a bike! same to cars, there is no improvement too. we still use the old model.

of curz... but the overall trick is to pass the gravity... shooting a little rocket into the air is realy easy.

are you seriously saying aerodynamics are not important for liftoff?
I mean you pretty much answered yourself when you correctly said that fuel has an immense weight. So it should be pretty obvious even to complete amateurs that saving energy with better aerodynamics will save fuel and therefor there will be less energy needed to beat gravity.

But you seem to be also saying that engine for rockets and cars have not improved over the decades. Which is just nonsense.

thing would be if u can move to the space with the energy of ur body.

you can do that. Just let go of bodily fluids in one direction and you will move in the other. Explosive diarrhea recommended for maximum speed.

Don't you realize that most propulsion technology that works on the earth won't work that well in a frictionless vacuum?
While others (i.e. rocket propulsion) will become highly efficient.

if you try to compare the Ottomotor from 100 years ago to those today and say there is no improvement, that tells me everything about your actual knowledge about these things.
Sure a solar drive for everyone would be great. But only if you completely ignore the fact the that at the moment solar panels need certain rare metals. And yes, those are called ressources, too.
The idea of a perfect solution being within reach is a romantic myth.

Your estimate about the influence of aerodynamics is nothing but ridiculous. Here some basic things you should think about if you do have some physical background despite your posts. Causes to me it sounds you are trying to compare breaking orbit to driving down a road.
Gravity is a potential. Thus time needed for breaking orbit is very important for the energy consumption. At high speeds (but well below lightspeed) air resistance becomes very important, due to it being a squared value in the formula.

Trying to argue against flying space by saying people need the oil to drive cars is non-sense too. for one thing, we do need the satellites in orbit, which is why the efficiency of rocket needs to be improved not all flights cancelled. Bringing in private companies can be a great way to improve efficiencies. Certainly worth a try.
In any case, if you took the time to check the annual world-wide oil consumption and compare it to the need of sucha project as John Carmack's, you should be able to find out for yourself that it is completely irrelevant.

Yes, ressources are very important as is keeping improving propulsion systems. But reducing ressources to only oil is incredibly short-sighted.

Finally, saying that research should be more directed and certain topics should not be "thought about" makes me think you have played too many games like Civ. Where researching a certain field will always give you an advance in that field. Real research does not work that way. Quite often do science stumble upon results that won't work for their own project but solve a problem in a different field.
Great and commonly used examples: The inventions of Post-its and Penecillin.

Stopping general research in any field will always mean less knowledge and possibly mean missing a perfect solution.

Another example?

Research on this baby: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flettner-Rotor was stopped.
Now they have restarted it, due to it possibly becoming more efficient. Had they kept researching, ships might be using this as a standard by now.

Research on this baby: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flettner-Rotor was stopped.
Now they have restarted it, due to it possibly becoming more efficient. Had they kept researching, ships might be using this as a standard by now.

this is bullshit. a sailing boat need only wind but ur Flettner-Rotor need wind + fuil(oil) or what ever. this is +back ;)

but u have a good example. travel with a sailing boat and using the windenergy is a realy nice thing but we dont do it. the fact that u can travel faster and without wind with an engine is much better. but its sucks if u think about resorces.

atm is walking and riding a bike the best thing that u can do. and without air resistance u should be able to hit more than 100km/h with a bike ;)

well-googled. However if you are unaware that the time you take to reach that velocity is directly connected to the energy used when going against a potential you really should rethink your stadnpoint.

the ottomotor dont change over the last 100 years. the principle is still the same. ofc they optimize some things like injection but not a change of the principle.

yes, the principle is the same IO already agreed with that. But calling the enourmous increase in efficiency "some optimization" is hardly objective.
Also, a propulsion system does not only consist of engines. You have new gear boxes, turbo, etc.

Yeah, walking and riding a bike is more energy efficient, not 0% as many assume though. Still needs oil for rubber soles and tires.

But if you really want to advertise such things, you should better throw away your pc at this moment. Not only does it consume energy but the parts have been shipped from Asia!! (btw. many rare earths for solar panels come from china. Oh snap!)&#9830;

Sailing is one of my biggest hobbies and I can tell you that the cast/gain measure for using sailboats for transportation is very bad. Nothing to improve it.

this is bullshit. a sailing boat need only wind but ur Flettner-Rotor need wind + fuil(oil) or what ever. this is +back ;)

you saying that getting a 30-40% increase in efficiency is bullshit really goes to tell your approach on this. And is not a realistic one. By a long shot.

What this all boils down to is this:
Simply demanding revolutions in propulsion systems is cheap and easy, providing them is not.
On the other hand improvements on existing technology have proven to be a very reliable way of noticeably increasing efficiency.

and without air resistance u should be able to hit more than 100km/h with a bike ;)

I'd say way more than 100 km/h. assuming you are riding on even ground the only loss you have to consider is the increase in friction.

Yeah, walking and riding a bike is more energy efficient, not 0% as many assume though. Still needs oil for rubber soles and tires.

i know that u need some resorces to build a bike/car/rocket/Flettner Rotor. but the trouble is that u need for the car/rocket/Flettner Rotor resorces that are not infinte. its not only the oil.

in theroy: we all (humans) can move from A to B... basicly walking. if we want to improve our travelspeed we have to use some kind of device/tool like a bike/car/rocket. in an "even world" everyone can use the resorces from the earth. but we dont have that much steal to give everyone a car. next thing is we dont have stable 6 mrd ppl on the earth we get from year to year more. in 50 year it is possible that we have 12mrd ppl. u need steal for buildings too. so how we handle it?

we can go the "normal" way with war and money but this is not social.

i think that we come to a point where the ppls say "dont waste our resorces for bullshit like that, i am happy if i have some steal for my house and my bike i dont need to fly to the space"

and yes...the "rocket talk" was over the future in 10-20 years and ofc i talk about the same time ;)

Both of you sound like idiots and neither have any idea what you are talking about. Stop pretending to be rocket scientists and engineers. Just save everyone the trouble of reading this crap and link to the wikipedia articles you are pulling it all from.

I already did agree that a revolutionary new propulsion system that is independent of fossil fuel would be great.
My two points are more differentiated:

1. Others methods are constantly being researched: Electric cars, Solar mobiles, vehicles moved by wind. However, it is more complicated to achieve such a revolution than you make it seem. You simply demand that such a revolution should be decided, and consider the problem solved. Like clicking "reseach new drive technology" in a computer game.
2. There are no drives that need no ressources. And there are many, many ressources than can become or already are a bottleneck. spiegel online timed their article really well :P. Therefore it always is about efficiency, and in that context research to improve existing propulsion methods while also researching completely new methods becomes very important.

Ironically, because CxG was down and a disaster, I was able to do better coverage of the event from home than I would have been able to there. We had cha0ticz and Torbull on day 1 to basically blast everything that was happening from the messed up Steam, to all the hardware being stolen. Then day two... coverage.

btw i dont get all the whine about the players
look at the bracket, we will get to see so many great games... av3k and others being there nor not, so many talent here and one week from now, gamescom with all the european players you might miss...
enjoy some good quake and chill

even esr failed to fail as during any other quake event and this is the only relevant event-awesomeness scale for quake events. why dreamhack or esl never fail like that and thank god we get gamescom next week.

i feel bad for syncerror thou having balls to post event updates here after few months of ignorance knowing he will get trashed anyway. thumbs up.

Things I would like to see happen this quakecon, that would make up for me missing School today.

I want to see in this LAN tournament the breakout of thereisno_spoon and strenx! You two guys need to bring it! Bring it, or get the fuck out!

dkt and chance go at it, maybe some blood but not too much. Hopefully that will fire up cooller, and he would be more willing to say "fuck rapha"! instead of "zis is rapha" and maybe come close to winning. Rapha is an empire, so I will never feel bad about him winning anything. But a little drama will not hurt. So it's ok for cooller to tell rapha "fuck you christian usa boy, zis is russia" to add a little fuel to the fire.

Anyway...I hope I didn't miss School for nothing. I'm dumb, so not getting 100 percent attendance will hurt me in the long run. :((

... and why isn't QL-TV able to stream at least SOME of the off-stage matches?

We have partnered with some of the best in the business to provide you with constant streaming coverage, live from QuakeCon 2010. Quake Live TV, along with world-renowned eSports commentators James "2GD" Harding and Joe "Joe" Miller, will be covering every aspect of the Intel Quake Live Masters Championship here:

Furious Heights match looks good. I wonder if he has any bootcamp opportunities in NA or Europe.. (dandaking ofc)
He probably simply doesn't have any practice partners of a caliber that would prepare him for this level of competition. GG Danda, wp

Honestly is anyone surprised? Seems like people get their hopes up every August that it could be different this year... but it never is. Maybe they'll get the finals streamed but don't expect much else. Am I the only one getting the impression that if you're not THERE then they don't give a shit about you? I've stopped wasting any time trying to follow it, and instead I'll just come back and read the news post a few days later. "oh rapha won. cool."

There are reasons why id is falling since 1999, to the point it is not even relevant to the industry right now (coming from being at the very top).

But Carmack's position is very understandable: id can't take another huge impact like doom3 or quake, so he must focus on Rage instead on all the other things that combined got id to its current state (compare it with blizzcon for example, which is also a company that doesn't outsource their major products).
Otherwise id will remain as a medium sized company which gets financed by micropayments (premium and pro accounts are not subscriptions) and cellphone games, hoping they'll get another big hit like last millennium (doom4)

The reasons is now if u wanna make a successful fps. It has to have braindead gameplay,be slowpaced and have a simple(not confusing) story with good cinematics and graphics.
That is for singleplayer for multiplayer, just take away dedicated servers so everyone has crappy pings and success here i come :D

its close to impossible to surprise your opponent because you always have to make noise to get to a place where you have a chance to do that, and due to being quite big and open it ends up being a railfest.

Just to let you guys know, we're uploading the stream at 1.5 mbits for HQ and 750 at LQ.

The stream's poor quality is likely derived from the fact that we were forced to use s-video, and the i7 CPU is getting maxed out because we need to record video live (the streaming CDN is not recording VODs unfortunately....)

then in such a case you should just stick to a screen capture program like vhscreencap and not use a capture card, s-video cables and what not. The stream looks like its run @ 20 fps or smth, but this feeling could be caused by that maxed out i7...

ok i saw it 2 times , rapha vs dahang and now on qcon and its really bad map. Or maybe its just my option because iam a bit pissed of at QCON coverage , but pukk3t2 is better , they should remake pukka instead of this

God damn it, the coverage is pure FAIL.
Constant action? Fuck it! Watch 1 game, then wait 1 hour, then watch 1 other game, then wait 1 more hour. Oh how bloody exciting!
Image quality is super shit. Probably even ESL free has better quality than this HQ stream. And really nice choice of 0.0001 FPS for streaming a fast action game. And there is also some horrible tearing (how it can even exist on stream? it's as if stream comes from a camera pointed at computer monitor, or I can't explain it any way else) and some unexplainable faint dark and bright stripes travelling up on the image. Of course, aspect ratio problems, I didn't even hope that they will solve it because it's kinda a tradition of Quakecon streams, at least it's somewhat funny to look at eggheaded commentators. Oh, and of course even with that crappy quality they managed to keep the bit rate high enough so it will buffer periodically, very nice work here.
I'm really looking forward to next Quakecon, because every time you think like - omg, it can't be worse than that; but then next year comes and they actually manage to do worse, and, well, it never ceases to amaze me.