I found it interesting too but I am not going to argue with Federico ...

I think dosage index supports Tesio. Nearco indexes at 2.67 where (keeping things simple) 4.00 = sprinter and <2.00 = stayer, with an model distance for his offspring of 1800m and change.

One of the things I have learned from Turf history is that distance races (i.e. 2 miles +) have been raced at an increasing pace over time. They were a lot more tactical in the old days and in the very old days they could virtually stop to a walk (especially at WFA). Handicapping was an incentive to move things along with lightweights fancying their chances of stealing the race by keeping the speed up under their discounted imposts.

There were lots of classy horses (especially 3YOs who were well treated under the WFA scale at longer distances) who won 2 and 3 mile races who probably weren't stayers at all. Their class, the rider's tactics and their lightweights saw them through.

The Reserve Bank of Australia Daily Indicative Rate chosen is that rate for the day of the race or if the day is on a weekend or Sydney public holiday the rate is that for the immediately preceeding trading day. Earnings in local currency appear at the end of each race start. Based on RBA daily indicative rates the 2017 'Arc' first prize of EUR 2,857,000 equalled GBP 2,508,135 or USD 3,363,776 or AUD 4,291,078.

it will only work for you with your original Enable post. (i.e. you can only edit your own posts, you couldn't edit a quoted post from me)

A few of us that were once moderators can edit all posts but a regular member can only edit their own post. So you will need to find your original Enable post on the origibal Race Records of Champion Racehorses thread NOT the international thread. I copied your record from the original thread to the International thread.

As one who is not computer literate i thought i would include Enable's republished text below for you to delete the old and insert the new. PS when I read one UK preview I was surprised that a 'three legged horse' was quoted in the UK as an 11/10F but the rundown of her rivals suggested to me this must have been one of the weaker Arc fields. She started as 1/1F in UK. Perhaps it was different in France! Still she must be very good. Wonder if they might have a crack at the Breeders Cup Turf now that she is fit. If she won, she would go very close to No 1 world ranking if not already.

And there was a "black hat" owner of the horse that ran 2nd in the Derby and Preakness, played by the very recognizable face of Nestor Serrano, who is at a press conference with Secretariat's owner Penny Chenery (Diane Lane) and has a dummy spit yelling at the press his horse is the best stayer and he will beat "Red" in the Belmont - and then he walks out.

I'm sure that really happened

Never knew the name of Nestor Serrano until I looked it up after the movie. He is in so many TV shows and movies.

Worldwide earnings in EUR based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates EUR 7,336,429.89 Worldwide earnings in GBP based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates GBP 6,151,639.30 Worldwide earnings in USD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates USD 9,791,604.28 Worldwide earnings in AUD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates AUD 10,113,438.25 HKD total is correct but the split between the race starts is based on 'racingpost' GBP splits among all starters receiving prizemoney. The worldwide GBP earnings is very close to the 'racingpost' figure. However it it is not close to the EURO figure shown on 'pedigreequery.com' and that figure is clearly wrong.

RACE RECORD The margins shown are for generally first to third however sometimes the margins shown are between first and fourth. Prizemoney in local currency appears at the end of each race record noting that 'emiratesracing' advertises prizemoney in USD. He must have earned a lot of frequent flyer points.

'galopp-seiger.de' has Ribot running in the Premio Besana at San Siro rather than the Primo Natale Di Roma in Sept 1955 at his seventh start. I am surprised there is not more detail about his career o the net so I am uncertain as to which is correct. There is a photo in the (London) Times of his jockey (Ugo Penco) looking over his shoulder near the winning post in the 1956 Arc and it looks more like daylight than just 6 lengths separated Ribot from the rest of the field. Perhaps Frankel is overrated.

The 'equibase.com' career earnings figure is USD 8,486,957. The 'racingpost' career earnings of GBP 4,207,029 omits bonuses. Apparently British record keepers omit bonuses 'for better or worse' (editor of 'thoroughbredracing.com' responding to my email query why Fantastic Light did not make it into their world top 40 GBP earners list taken from the BHA). This essentially explains the difference between my GBP figure and British GBP career earnings figures. Details of both bounses obtained in reponse to an email I sent to 'equibase.com' asking about a possible USD 2,000,000 error in career earnings compared to the 'racingpost' figure.

Fantastic Light retired as the highest European bred or trained stakewinner in USD or GBP passing Singspiel (IRE) 1992 (even if bonuses not included). He held the European record until he was passed by Cirrus des Aigles (FR) 2006.

RACING RECORD Earnings for each race appear at the end of each race record in that country's currency or USD (Dubai earnings are advertised in USD and both bonuses were in USD). TWO YEARS: 1998 Starts 3: 2-0-1-0

'galopp-seiger.de' has Ribot running in the Premio Besana at San Siro rather than the Primo Natale Di Roma in Sept 1955 at his seventh start. I am surprised there is not more detail about his career o the net so I am uncertain as to which is correct. There is a photo in the (London) Times of his jockey (Ugo Penco) looking over his shoulder near the winning post in the 1956 Arc and it looks more like daylight than just 6 lengths separated Ribot from the rest of the field. Perhaps Frankel is overrated.

Tim, You are correct. Pedigree Query has a note in its stakes records that Ribot's win in the Primo Natale Di Roma is a 'risultato falso'.

The Natale Di Roma translates as 'the birth of Rome' and it is a holiday celebrated in April not October.

The Premio Besana is a 2400m event held at San Siro prior to the Italian St Leger in the Autumn. Premio Bresana is also listed by other sources as Ribot's seventh start. (eg, Wikipedia),

The curious thing is that the Premio Ribot is held at Cappanelle in Rome in the Autumn over 1600m, which is where and when Ribot was supposed to have won the Natale Di Roma over the same distance. Someone got their wires crossed I think.

If you like watching old videos and photographs of historical champions the two part videos at the following URL are worth a look.

France earnings in EUR* EUR 669,419 France earnings in Francs FRF 4,391,100.00 Starts 13: 6-2-2-3 England earnings in GBP GBP 0.00 Starts 1: 0-0-0-1 Japan earnings in JPY JPY 28,036,000 Starts 1: 0-1-0-0 Canada earnings in CAD CAD 348,210.00 Starts 2: 1-0-0-1 United States earnings in USD USD 1,988,935.00 Starts 4: 2-1-0-1 * 'france-galop' has published race earnings in euros which I have converted back ino French francs (the currency of the day) by converting the euros to FRF at the rate of €1 = 6.55957 francs the rate used at the changeover to euros on 1 January 1999 and which was rate used by france-galop to convert FRF to euros.

Worldwide earnings in United States dollars (USD)** USD 2,959,877.13 Worldwide earnings in British pounds (GBP)** GBP 2,043,735.06 Worldwide earnings in French francs (FRF)** FRF 24,018,020.37 Worldwide earnings in Australian dollars (AUD)** AUD 3,258,316.42 ** Based on Reserve Bank of Australia (rba.gov.au.statistics/…) daily exchange rates as published for the date of the race or the previous trading day if the date falls on a non-trading day for 1984 year and based on RBA monthly rates for 1981 to 1983 years as daily rates were not published prior to 13 December 1983 and except in the case of FRF and CAD as no monthly rates were published it is average of the buy/sell rate quoted in the Canberra Times for the date closest to the race date.

United Kingdom earnings in British pounds (GBP) GBP 7,015.20 United States earnings in United States dollars (USD) USD 356,940 The GBP earnings is an estimate however the actual figure is unlikely to vary by no more than a few hundred British pounds (and 4.03 times this in USD).

Worldwide earnings in British pounds (GBP)* GBP 134,493.77 Worldwide earnings in United States dollars (USD)* USD 385,211.26 * This is based on the average of Bank of England Official Rate range quoted in the London Times for the day of the race. The average of the range for races run in 1947 and 1948 was exactly USD 4.03000 to GBP 1.0000 and for races run in 1949 and 1950 exactly USD 2.8000 to GBP 1.000

Wikipedia and pedigreequery have career earnings of USD 383,968. Equibase only has the United States USD earnings of USD 356,940 which is the same as the Daily Racing Form total for 1949 and 1950.

Noor passed Isinglass (GB) 1890 European career earnings record (GBP 57,455, USD 285,814) to set a new record for a European bred or trained horse. Noor held the European bred or trained career earnings record until passed by Bald Eagle (USA) 1955.

In six of his seven wins in 1950 Noor set two world records, one American record, and three course records. Noor beat the mighty Citation into second in four successive course record breaking races although Noor was getting 22lbs, 13lbs, 5lbs and giving 1lb through the four starts. Assuming 2 pounds equals 1 length (both horses were 5YO), then, if they were at level weights, Citation should have won the first three of the four meetings given the margins of 1.25L, a nose, a neck and 3L . Daily Racing Form voted Noor 1950 best Handicap Horse and Hill Prince (3YO) 1950 best Horse of the Year. They met twice in 1950 with one win each (Noor setting a course record in winning their second clash). Noor was the leading North American money-winner of 1950.

RACING RECORD The GBP and USD earnings for each race appear at the end of each race record where known with certainty. Noor earned USD 10,000 in 1949 and because the exchange rate remained unchanged all that year the USD and GBP amounts included in the totals will not change.

#The Times and Sunday Times (London) the Daily Telegraph and Sunday Telegraph (London) and major Irish newspapers only include win prizemoney in their form guides (if at all) and I presume place prizemoney is often not included in newspaper commentaries as the information is not readily available although the Times did regurlarly publish a table of the Uk's largest earners up until 1906. It seems fourth prizemoney first commenced to be paid in the UK in 1972 at I am guessing about 2.5% of the total. Before 1972 the prizemoney split was about 70-20-10 and from 1972 to ? the prizemoney split was about 67.5-20-10-2.5. I have used these splits to estimate the place prizemoney included in the total. ## 'france-galop' has published race earnings in euros which I have converted back ino French francs (the currency of the day) by converting the euros to FRF at the rate of €1 = 6.55957 francs the rate used at the changeover to euros on 1 January 1999 and which was rate used by france-galop to convert FRF to euros.

### Worldwide earnings in British pounds (GBP) GBP 370,892.35 Worldwide earnings in United States dollars (USD) USD 919,958.22 Worldwide earnings in French francs (FRF) FRF 4,041,703 ### Worldwide earnings are calculated by taking the the average of Spot Sterling Close for GBP 1.00 to the USD and French franc to GBP 1.00 as published in the (London) Times or (London) Telegraph for the race date or a previous day if the race date is not a trading day and converting the local currency into other currencies.

Rheingold passed Mill Reef (USA) 1968 to become Europe's leading career earnings record holder for European trained or bred horses when measured in GBP or USD but not in FRF (Mill Reef's FRF equivalent total was passed by Dahlia (USA) 1970 on 27 July 1974)

RACING RECORD I have included race prizemoney in local currency at the end of each race record where I am reasonably certain the amount is correct. As I can only estimate UK prizemoney for second to fourth places I have not shown those estimates separately.

Don't know where you got the pic from. I have a list of 140 US horses that won 5 or more Grade 1 races that were foaled in 2010 or earlier the earliest being Maskette (USA) 1906. She is famous but I might have a few to test you. Some I may never get their complete records. To help me out with European Group 1 winners I got a copy of Bend Or Graded and Group Winners 1973-1988 a while back relatively cheap esp postage wise considering the size of the book. Give me a year or so to sort the Europeans out.

The picture of Rheingold is unmistakably Richard Stone Reeves work. His prints are regularly up for auction and I often raid their catalogs for the pictures.

There aren't too many accomplished performers that I haven't been able to find. Sometimes I have had to resort to cigarette cards to find an image for a colonial horse. There are a few tricks but mainly it is just using a search engine.

Conformation Photo of Maskette (from americasbestracing.net) Her portrait is also on her Wikipedia page.

Maskette (USA) 1906 Brown mare Disguise (USA) 1897 (Domino (USA) 1891) - Biturica (USA) 1900 (Hamburg (USA) 1895) Countries raced: USA 17 starts, 12 wins (5 x G1r), 3 seconds, 0 thirds. Win % 70.6, Place % 88.2. 'G1r' means races won that were classified by the American Graded Stakes Committee (founded by Thoroughbred Owners and Breeders Association ('TOBA')) as Grade 1 in 1973 (the first time such classification was made) that were run before 1973. I have classified then as 'retrospective' Grade 1 wins. TOBA does not recognise retrospective Grade 1 wins. It is my way of identifying and recognising superior race performances from a time before grading of races came into being. TOBA states: Despite the European connection to the origin of grading races and the international application of U.S. grades, it must be kept in mind that our racing differs fundamentally from racing in other countries: in most countries, stakes events are set forth by a central authority, and changes to major fixtures are made under the aegis of a central governing body. U.S. racing, however, is de-centralized, and no such uniform control can exist. U.S. racing and stakes programs are dynamic products of regulatory, contractual, and competitive conditions in many local and regional environments. The U.S. grading system is designed to accommodate the flexibility and dynamism of U.S. racing; a grading system that could not quickly respond to our ever-changing conditions would never be appropriate in our country. Because of the ever changing nature of American racing Maskette is the first American horse that I have been able to find that won five races later classified as Grade 1. This can be contrasted with Australia where the oldest horse that won five Group 1 races was Tim Whiffler (AUS 1862) (Fireworks (AUS) 1864 reached five before Tim Whiffler) and in Europe the earliest to reach five Group 1 wins is likely to be Gladiateur (FR) 1862. Also the American civil war (1861-1865) had a major impact on American racing and many racecourses never recovered after that war thus the continuity of racing, in eg England, was not repeated in the USA.