re: How close is it right now between Manning and Brady for this years MVP?(Posted by Vicks Kennel Club on 11/23/12 at 11:21 am to mylsuhat)

quote:Drew Brees should be ahead of them for MVP by far.

Brees has his team at .500 and climbing without his coach or a defense

You have to be shitting me.

Rodgers, Brady, and Manning are all having better seasons than Brees. All three are ahead in passing rating. Two out of three in YPA. All three in less picks thrown. All three in completion percentage.

Brees is clearly not the front runner. He is clearly one of the four best QB's in the NFL, but there is no fricking way he is the MVP.

re: How close is it right now between Manning and Brady for this years MVP?(Posted by Vicks Kennel Club on 11/23/12 at 11:23 am to Elleshoe)

quote:frick the fact that his stats are similar, if not better, than the other 2.

Have you even compared their numbers? Brees clearly has worse stats than the other three elite QB's.

There is no reason to go into team stats because they are inaccurate way of measuring a player's worth, but yeah, the Saints are also the shittiest team of the bunch, which will further damage his chances that should not exist.

re: How close is it right now between Manning and Brady for this years MVP?(Posted by Tiger1242 on 11/23/12 at 11:28 am to bomber77)

quote:Even RGIII has a higher QB rating

You say that like its a slight against Brees. RGIII is one of the top in the league in passer rating. shite if he keeps it up and the Redskins somehow make the playoffs I'd be ok with RGIII winning MVP

re: How close is it right now between Manning and Brady for this years MVP?(Posted by Elleshoe on 11/23/12 at 11:28 am to bomber77)

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quote:His stats stink compared to Rodgers, Manning and Brady

Brees: 28TD 9INT 3,066 yards QBR: 99.8

Brady: 24TD 3INT 3,299 yards QBR: 105.0

Manning: 24TD 7INT 2,975 yards QBR: 106.2

Rodgers: 27TD 6INT 2,619 yards QBR: 107.3

yeah, you're right. Compared to those 3 his stats fricking suck. Dude, you're ignorant on this topic. But that's ok. You were just educated. I don't think Brees will win it but to say he's not even close to those guys is retarded.

re: How close is it right now between Manning and Brady for this years MVP?(Posted by Vicks Kennel Club on 11/23/12 at 11:34 am to Elleshoe)

Elleshoe, look at stats that correlate with success at the QB position. Yards are pretty terrible and QBR factors in "clutch", so it pretty hard to make a determination of how worthwhile it even is.

Passer rating and YPA have much higher correlation with winning than those stats, and these meaningful show that Brees is behind.

I also like how you selectively left out most of the stats where Brees is trailing. Brees has an advantage in volume, but not in inefficiency so far. He is still fricking awesome, but not the MVP. His numbers are still very good, but not the best.