Wow, this thread is more cut throat than some of the motorcycle threads.

Anyway, on a lighter note, a question about using a GoPro camera and taking vids on the mountain bike. ( Just bought a bike and started riding again after 20 years)

Do guys tend to like to take video from helmet/rider mounts, or mount to the bicycle itself???

I know when I use the GoPro on my motorcycle(offroad) rides, I mount to my helmet. I know when some guys moiunt to the bikes(motorcycle), the vid has too much movement to it, and is sometimes hard to watch.

I am assuming that if mounted to handlebars, for trail riding, unless its really bumpy, it should be OK????

Doug,
From what I've seen, most guys use either a helmet of chest mount for their gopro's. But like you suggested it works okay when bike mounted if the trail isn't too bumpy. Here's a vid I made at one of the local trails with a gopro 960 mounted to my bars(2:37) The sound sucks, you might want to turn it down first. http://youtu.be/Psk0YNr6v2o

Next time I ride the Westside, I'm taking the damn pruning shears. I got skewered in the shoulder by an errant manzanita branch and took more shots to the head than Larry Fine. It's always the short little quickie rides that getcha.

Doug,
From what I've seen, most guys use either a helmet of chest mount for their gopro's. But like you suggested it works okay when bike mounted if the trail isn't too bumpy. Here's a vid I made at one of the local trails with a gopro 960 mounted to my bars(2:37) The sound sucks, you might want to turn it down first. http://youtu.be/Psk0YNr6v2o

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Thanks for the reply McDuff. That vid looked pretty good. I think the bar mount will work well for me.

Just picked up a Columbus Airplane frame with Dura-Ace 7900 hanging on it. Budget wheelset, handlebars, stem and seatpost.

I never really enjoyed the ride of aluminum but I can always change the frame. Used to have a Gios Compact back in the day, maybe I'll check into their newer framesets.

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There's AL and there's AL. The Airplane tubing is going to ride pretty nicely overall. I've had a few bikes made out of it (or copies).

Funny thing, AL. In EUR they say 'AL?! Ick rides like a noodle.' Here in the states we say 'AL?! Ick rides like a brick.' Both are right if you think about what the first experience with AL was. Eur: Vitus. States: C-dale. Since those first bikes, we've come a LONG ways. That Airplane tubeset is just about the culmination of lots of years of AL work.

Does Gianni Motta still make frames? I had a tri coloured one before the Gios. I liked it a lot but the top tube was too short. I wouldn't mind a nice steel frame again. Something in about a 58 cm.

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about Gianni Motta, but if you want steel, check out the Paceline Forums or Velocipede Salon. VS is THE place to talk to guys like Richard Sachs, et al. Keep an eye on craigslist and/or ebay. There's been some stuff selling for fairly cheaply here in the DC area 'cause no one wants steel any more.

Doug,
From what I've seen, most guys use either a helmet of chest mount for their gopro's. But like you suggested it works okay when bike mounted if the trail isn't too bumpy. Here's a vid I made at one of the local trails with a gopro 960 mounted to my bars(2:37) The sound sucks, you might want to turn it down first. http://youtu.be/Psk0YNr6v2o

Interesting. I saw their chest mount set up and kinda thought it was more bulky that I wanted for he mountain biking. I am kinda liking how light and able to move I feel riding the mountain bike, as compared to the dirt bikes, where I have on armored shorts, armored pressure suit, neck brace, boots, etc.

Interesting. I saw their chest mount set up and kinda thought it was more bulky that I wanted for he mountain biking. I am kinda liking how light and able to move I feel riding the mountain bike, as compared to the dirt bikes, where I have on armored shorts, armored pressure suit, neck brace, boots, etc.

Thanks for the input.

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I have a friend who's experimenting with a GoPro attached to his Camelbak's shoulder harness. I'll keep an eye on how that works out for him. He's been working on establishing an acceptable angle.

Helmet mount allows any branch to knock it off angle or completely off the helmet. Bike mounts can sometimes be too jittery. IDK. Guess it's really comes down to compromises and how important filming your rides is to you.

I have a friend who's experimenting with a GoPro attached to his Camelbak's shoulder harness. I'll keep an eye on how that works out for him. He's been working on establishing an acceptable angle.

Helmet mount allows any branch to knock it off angle or completely off the helmet. Bike mounts can sometimes be too jittery. IDK. Guess it's really comes down to compromises and how important filming your rides is to you.

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I think, ideally, the best mounting position would be helmet-mounted hanging at eye level... that way the POV is exactly what the rider sees... or doesn't. At least it's out of harm's way from malicious branches and stable on the helmet.

The videos I have enjoyed the most were filmed with multiple cameras. Watching someone ride a trail for 30 minutes, I'm not going to do it. Have different camera angles, and edit it down to the better shots that do a good job of conveying the overall feel of the trail,

Now, that said, I can totally see the advantages of filming the ride so you can see the areas you need to work on. Better lines, more/less speed for various conditions, etc. And by allowing others to view and comment you can get ideas and suggestions you wouldn't think of on your own.

If you are filming for training purposes, then whatever mounting point gives a good view of what you, the bike, and the trail are doing should work fine.

The purpose is different for each type of filming, so you have to take that into consideration.

I think, ideally, the best mounting position would be helmet-mounted hanging at eye level... that way the POV is exactly what the rider sees... or doesn't. At least it's out of harm's way from malicious branches and stable on the helmet.

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On my motorcycle rides,, I have mounted it to both the side of helmet, and to the top of my visor. I prefer the latter, as having it on one side my it slightly heavy to that side. On top of my visor, I have it in such a position that it will still clear any branches I would duck under....so long as I see them.

The videos I have enjoyed the most were filmed with multiple cameras. Watching someone ride a trail for 30 minutes, I'm not going to do it. Have different camera angles, and edit it down to the better shots that do a good job of conveying the overall feel of the trail,

Now, that said, I can totally see the advantages of filming the ride so you can see the areas you need to work on. Better lines, more/less speed for various conditions, etc. And by allowing others to view and comment you can get ideas and suggestions you wouldn't think of on your own.

If you are filming for training purposes, then whatever mounting point gives a good view of what you, the bike, and the trail are doing should work fine.

The purpose is different for each type of filming, so you have to take that into consideration.

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The filming would be just to get the "good parts" on film, just for the fun of it and to have it. I also get very bored when people put up lengthy vids...so mine are typically under five minutes..or so:

Good call getting back into mtb. Do you live in the sandy or rocky part of Jerz? Have any good trails nearby?

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I live right in top end of the pine barrens...pretty sandy...but fun for the motorcycle riding. I have checked out two parks so far, and had to drive about 1/2 hr to each..to get real dirt and trails. Bicycle is not gonna cut in the sand right near my house.

that is a Moxey, got sued out of existance awhile back by Cane Creek who has patents on their Thudbusters.... I was looking for a suspension seatpost for my wife's comfort stepthrough hybrid, and didn't want to get one of those cheap chinese springy-posts, but Thudbusters were just too effin' expensive ($150 seatpost on a $250 bike? eeek!). won this puppy on fleabay, owner says its new, he was given it but never used it because it didn't fit his frame. afaik, they are a 25mm or so post that you shim to fit, wife's bike is a 27.2mm.

Alright, I received the Look Keo 2 Max pedals, and they're fine. They really haven't changed much, have they? But while reading through the directions there is a weight limit of 220 lbs. I'm heavier than that (I was 224 when I was 18 FFS).

Am I about to stomp my foot straight down to the tarmac and make love to my frame or shouldn't I be concerned? I didn't think I bought anything exotic, I thought these were chromoly spindles?

What's the weight limit on the titanium spindled pedals, 150 lbs?

Anyone remember the titanium spindled Campy Super Record quills which did break from time to time?

Alright, I received the Look Keo 2 Max pedals, and they're fine. They really haven't changed much, have they? But while reading through the directions there is a weight limit of 220 lbs. I'm heavier than that (I was 224 when I was 18 FFS).

Am I about to stomp my foot straight down to the tarmac and make love to my frame or shouldn't I be concerned? I didn't think I bought anything exotic, I thought these were chromoly spindles?

Buddy of mine and I started late and made our way thru the stragglers to the first rest stop. Everyone was at the first rest stop. They were all standing around shooting the breeze, I knew that if I stopped, I'd get all kinds of stiff so B and I had a cookie and kept going.

Ran into a buddy of ours, G, who we conned into working with us. Now we were 3 bucking a head and/or side wind most of the ride. That extra person really made a difference fighting the headwind lemme tell ya!

Up down up down up down (repeat for the next 40 miles) I swear if the roads we were on weren't pointed up, we were going downhill till the next uphill. Now add a nifty headwind and you have recipe for very tired legs by the end of the ride.

We picked up a 4th along the way into Flint Hill. Adding a 4th guy to work in was even mo bettah than having just the 3 of us.

By the time we got to the last rest stop, I needed a bottle refilled, and all of us needed a bite to eat. Quick stop and off we went. Evidently we were the 2nd group on the road on the big loop. Never did see the people in front of us, so I suspect they got down the road from the gun.

Coupla takeaways:

Headwinds suck but having someone to share em with make em bearable

Hills suck (see above)

Having people with you makes lots of things better

If you're in a group, don't attack the hills. My buddy is notorious for getting to the bottom of a hill and hammering up it regardless of what the group's doing now or has been doing the whole ride. I'll admit I'm probably the weakest link on a hill. ...but I can tow em around at a high rate of speed on the flat, so it makes sense to not kill guys like me off.

If you're going to accelerate, do it smoothly so the guys behind you don't have to dig real deep to get on your wheel. (my buddy again)

Beers after a ride taste VERY good

I'm beat. My thighs are tired all the way to the top of my inner quad muscle. 'Course, today IS the 4th big-ish day in a row.

Go! Gummee! Cool report. Reminds me of so many rides into Eastern Colorado. Rolers we called them since our reference was bigassed mountains.

I finally got to Sports Authority today to pick up a new pair of shoes. Yes, shoes I'm here in Levelland sans bikes, so running is the deal. But, not or much longer.
I may have a line on some single track mtb action, paid for too!

More on that later.

What is it about running shoes that they are required to get uglier as the years go by? These new ones are hideous even by KLR standards.

But, they came free by way of me having ridden and run about 600 miles in the companies moveyour fastasses deal we do every year. And every year the fat asses get fatter, though I'm dong my part. "... speed eating sunflower seeds..." or yard waste as I call it. . so for averaging more than my 15,000 steps per day I got a $100 to Sports Authority, even though I picked Dick's, (just the name is close).
Anyay tomorrow after I watch the MotoGP race from Misano live via streaming MotoGP.com, I'll see if I can still run,
Meanwhile since I worked for ten hours today this is my PUI Friday.