All things considered, Glock had a pretty good 2012. He had 5 15th or above finishes (vs Pic's 2) and only 1 retirement in Canada due to a brakes failure. His DNS in Valencia was due to food poisoning. So bar these two uncontrollable situations he's had a pretty good track record.

Yeah but as it was pic's rookie season it doesn't say much that he gave glock such a hard time and challenged him so closely

Depends how you look at it.

It could be said it's easier to extract the Maximum out of a slower car and any time difference would be smaller. So if the cars were more competitive the gap could be more because one would be able to extract more.

Also the Marussia wouldn't be a big step up from the GP2 Pic came from.

Is anybody else sick of all these pay drivers? and teams looking for the money instead of the talent, I know it's obviously just the state in which F1 is in right now, but it's really becoming quite boring! How much longer will it go on for and how much worse will it get.

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Is anybody else sick of all these pay drivers? and teams looking for the money instead of the talent, I know it's obviously just the state in which F1 is in right now, but it's really becoming quite boring! How much longer will it go on for and how much worse will it get.

Yeah, that Fernando Alonso with his masses of backing should get screwed.

But yeah, I can see where you're coming from, it's getting a bit annoying now isn't it? But it was the same back in the 90's, lots of pay drivers. They've always been around.

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Is anybody else sick of all these pay drivers? and teams looking for the money instead of the talent, I know it's obviously just the state in which F1 is in right now, but it's really becoming quite boring! How much longer will it go on for and how much worse will it get.

how long have you watched f1 at least the pay drivers at the minute can actually drive and most have good junior formulae results in the 80's and certainly 90's some pay drivers were around that had no right to be near a pedal car let alone an f1 car!! Although people will find it upsetting their favourite drivers are forced out by pay drivers but its nothing new its just reported a lot more as i said the pay drivers mostly proved it at lower levels there are a few that struggled a bit but got in anyway but on the whole they are a good standard of driver, they just have backing also.

Does anyone else think that Petrov's manager is quite useless? All I ever hear her saying is "there's no seat, there's no chance, there's no money, we're not talking to so-and-so." I've never heard her sound confident/competent. Surely she should be straight in there and negotiating with Marussia...

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Does anyone else think that Petrov's manager is quite useless? All I ever hear her saying is "there's no seat, there's no chance, there's no money, we're not talking to so-and-so." I've never heard her sound confident/competent. Surely she should be straight in there and negotiating with Marussia...

This! I know it's refreshing to hear the truth, unless it's a bluff and Petrov has all the sponsors really, but if it is the truth it's painfully truthful!

Does anyone else think that Petrov's manager is quite useless? All I ever hear her saying is "there's no seat, there's no chance, there's no money, we're not talking to so-and-so." I've never heard her sound confident/competent. Surely she should be straight in there and negotiating with Marussia...

Maybe he's already got a seat at Force India or back with Caterham, hence no need to talk to Marussia.

Does anyone else think that Petrov's manager is quite useless? All I ever hear her saying is "there's no seat, there's no chance, there's no money, we're not talking to so-and-so." I've never heard her sound confident/competent. Surely she should be straight in there and negotiating with Marussia...

Maybe he's already got a seat at Force India or back with Caterham, hence no need to talk to Marussia.

Well she's saying talks have stalled with Caterham from what I recall, so essentially she's saying it's stalled in one team, we're not approaching the other team, we're not sure what our sponsors are doing. Hardly inspires confidence in her. She seemed very defeatist when managing him at Renault too, I've often found her very defeatist when it comes to contracts... unless as someone says she likes bluffing.

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