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Sorry, but I need to rant.

published by Old is good on Tue, 11/04/2017 - 21:59

Did anyone see brain-dead Hanson's Easter message: "Don't buy Cadbury eggs because they are Halal?"
Doesn't this idiot realise that Cadbury, Arnotts Sulong Rice and hundreds of other Australian produced foods are NOT Halal approved because Muslims in Australia pressure these companies to meet their religious beliefs.
Is she too stupid to realise that just as the US, Canada, Japan, the EU, China and every other country we export food to have their own food standards, Muslim countries have Halal. Halal is a standard that requires cleanliness and purity of food and in food production, just as the Bible requires cleanliness and purity in Christian food and it's production.
Our Australian companies meet Halal standards so Australian workers and our country can benefit from feeding hundreds of millions of Muslims worldwide rather than making a pittance feeding only 25 miliion Austraians.
Pauline probably knows that, but acknowledging the truth wouldn't suit her control the people and get their votes with fear and hatred agenda.
Rant over. I feel better now.
David

No one seams to care about anything. Is Australia today what grandpa fought and died for in the war yesterday when I was whinging to my friend about this http://email.holden....
he reminded me we've done nothing the same as the bady boomers did when they gave everything to corpos. Enjoy sucking up to minority groups how many Muslims are sneaking in tobacco and not paying tax on it?

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Sorry David, but your rant is full of ignorance, same as you're accusing Hanson of doing. A copy and paste of Halal " To be halal certified the animal must be facing Mecca, have its throat cut while still alive and then ritually sacrificed by a Muslim who recites a prayer dedicating the slaughter to Allah. Because the animals must be slaughtered alive, stun guns are often not an option as they can kill an animal before the heart pumps out all the blood."
Not as you say, cleaniness and purity. Cadbury was accused of removing the word "easter" from many of their products. Like our own "Vegemite" Cadbury also pays for the Halal certification so it can sell to Muslims across the world, a payment you and I will be paying for if you consume Cadbury chocolates and any other Halal product. I agree with an above comment, there are other forums to express your ignorance. Another copy and paste "This means that for any food to be considered halal it must comply with the religious ritual and observance of Sharia law."
You agree with Sharia law? Read about it here: http://www.halalchoi...
I think the whole Halal deal is a money making venture. Where that money goes, who knows. It was initially only for meat products, but it seems that it has been bastardized and now is only what I said above, a money making deal.

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Your Halal certification quote refers to traditional Halal slaughter. There are only two or three traditional Halal certified abbatiors in Australia.
All of these abbatiors are also traditional Kosher certified abbatoirs and were originally established as traditional Kosher abbatiors to serve the Australian Jewish community.
When was the last time e protested about Kosher slaughter?
Traditional Kosher and traditional Halal slaughter follow the same principals so these abbatiors basically only needed a Muslim cleric to stand beside the Rabbi and bless the livestock to meet Halal certification.
All our other abbatiors with Halal certification have a compromised Halal system where stunning is allowed.
As for Halal certification being a money making venture, do our own Food Safety regulations exist purely for the purpose of making money? The question can be asked of the many food standards around the world our exports have to meet.
No, I don't agree with the radicals who use Sharia law to hate us.
Do you know that the Muslim faith is one of tolerance of other religions, just as Christianity is? The Koran tells Muslims to recognise and respect other religions and to respect other peoples right to practice those religions, just as the Bible tells Christians to.
Talk to someone who was born in a Muslim country about their faith and their homeland and you will see a different person to the one the media and people like Hanson want us to believe they are all like.
David

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David. You are mixing food safety standards with religious standards. Two different animals.
Food standards are to make sure we don't die from what we eat. Halal is a means of killing animals for religious purposes. Do you know that the Islamic council is pressuring Dick Smith to pay for halal certification for his products and he is resisting. Because I don't just accept what people verbally preach, can you point me in the direction where I can read what you preach. I did a copy and paste of what I had to say so maybe you can too.
Anyway, this will be the last I will be commenting on this matter because no doubt I will be "labelled" a red neck or racist bigot by someone because my open views differ from their inside the box views. Not that I really give a rats ar*e though.
Finally, yes, I work with many people from all countries, not just muslims, and do hear many opinions.

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I don't know Bryan, I'm maybe a redneck and I don't give a sh*t but I tend to keep my views to myself. You know that where we work they tend to not like employees to express their views.
At the end of the day, it isn't a religion of peace.

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Halal is much more than a means of killing animals for religious purposes. Halal is a set of guilines for ensuring that food Muslims eat is clean and pure.
Read the facts, copied and pasted: http://www.islamicco...
If anyone bothers to do any research they will find it is basically the same as any food standard anywhere except for the need to slash the throat of animal. Even the Bible is strict about what we can and cannot eat. Even our food laws demand that the blood be drained from an animal before it is processed. We either electrically stun them or inject a steel bolt into the skull to stun them. Then we slit their throat.
Muslims have a cleric bless the animal when it is killed. This is practised by many traditional societies around the world throughout history.
David

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David, it would seem you are convinced halal means the food is safe and pure. This from the Australian Government" In Australia, certification schemes reflect a growing number of consumers to whom it is important that the food they eat complies with their religious beliefs."
Religious beliefs, not food standards.
Here: http://www.aph.gov.a...
I do copy and pastes to show that I'm not preaching redneck racial bigot views, but you're preaching David views, not fact.

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Yes, Halal does confirm that the food meets the standard for Muslims, according to their religous beliefs. Their religous beliefs demand that food be pure, fresh and clean. Just like ours.
My point about Halal is not whether it is religous or not. My point is that Australian companies pay for Halal certifications because it means they can export to Muslim countries and grow Australian businesses and employment, just as they do for every country we export food to, whether that countries standards are based on religous or any other standards. Just as any country wanting wanting to sell food here must meet our standards.
Yes, it has probably even brought those companies a larger share of our domestic market as Muslims wishing to observe their beliefs become aware of more Halal food in Australia.
How much do think our own food certification costs our food producers? We all pay for it and it can cost a small fortune.
David

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Don't you realise that Australian companies get Halal certification so can they export our food to millions of Muslims all over the world. They don't do it to satisfy 2% of our population. Just as our food exporters have to get certification for every country they export to.
Halal Certification is a win for Australian business and workers, that is why they do it and have done for decades.
David

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I'll second that.
There is a very large Catholic high school up here.
The school's motto, in large letters on the wall between it's entry gates, is "The truth will set you free."
I laugh to myself every time I see it.
David

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