Thanks for the feedback. Found a Vision on a course last year and before returning it to the owner threw it a few times and really liked it as an understable disc- behaved like a longer Leopard. But then looked it up and found there were two different Vision molds and sort of gave up on pursuing it....

Wizards/Jokeri/Fuse/Buzzz/Gator/XLs/Teebirds/XXX/PDs

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Yeah there are two molds. the one that says "stable fairway driver" is the new mold. It is more stable but not saint pro stable by any means. When i throw the two the old mold is basically a roller and the new mold is a gentle right turn throughout flight.

discmonkey42 wrote:Went out and played in some hefty winds yesterday. Threw the Trident on most headwind shots (Giant for longer stuff) and the Pure on most tailwind shots. XXX didn't come out once for some reason.

Dude, you got to throw the Porn disc at least once a round. It may feel neglected.

Just got my hands on a couple of Rivers(170 grams in GL and Opto). Both are great discs and it has become one of my most used discs in my bag due to it's accuracy. They are great for Hyzerflips and they go straight,straight and more straight when you get use to them.

Yellow Lucid Truth in some winds moderate head and rear winds after about a couple months off after hurting my arm throwing under full power. Netted me a 330' tight s-curve of about 2' turn and 4-5' of fade in a calm spot. Well the place i threw from had no wind but on that kettle of a field the winds often change and there are more than one directions coming at the disc in different stages of flight too often. Seeing as i put another lower throw to 321' i'd say it is a pretty long disc. With those winds and my rusted form i cannot say if those turns came from me or the disc reacting to the wind. I sure suffered from arm dropping down in the follow through on other shots so i am not confident about myself. Gotta clean up my form to the point i can meaning my ankle is not reacting kindly to heel pivots and bracing attempts even after years of recovery time from surgery and lots of training. Like over 2/3 of a cycling marathon solo in the winds on non flat ground partially on sandy roads this summer. Grr. Nice popping sounds from my ankle as i type...

Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.

Truth is a decent disc, very buzz-like. It's got a kinda strange feeling lip on the bottom of it though that always seems to mess with my head/grip. Kinda reminds me of the DGA Aftershock in that regard. It certainly flies nice though. I just can't warrant carrying it over a Warship... I think the Warship is the best neutral mid I've thrown in quite a while. They are sneaky long, require little power to throw, very comfortable in the hand, and they don't seem to be super bothered by a little wind. I actually lost my long time VIP thrower in the drink at Maple Hill because I thought the headwind I was throwing into was going to hyzer flip my shot. Needless to say, it did not... and I ended up throwing a beautiful hyzer left of the pin ...right into the pond (hole 7).

The new Claymore's are pretty sick too! Really slim profile, very comfortable grip and a nice neutral flight ...but they will turn over in a medium headwind, so you can't really trust them on a windy day. I'm hoping the Opto run of Claymore's will beef them up a little. Not really seeing the point of the Core now that the Claymore is out. The Claymore is everything the Core should have been.