Outreach like this is actually a good step forward, but really the quality of Line Skis has dropped so far, I had a pair of Chronics that lasted me less than a quarter of the season, its hard to drop bank on park skis that dont hold up to all mountain riding, let alone light park skiing. Every time I clicked into them, another piece of them fell off until I lost literally all of the sidewall on one of them. Hopefully quality gets addressed soon but I wont be buying line skis again for a long time. First impressions are important.

BigPurpleSkiSuitAdmire the outreach, but I have also heard rough stuff about durability, I also don't primarily ski park.

Crust_StationOutreach like this is actually a good step forward, but really the quality of Line Skis has dropped so far, I had a pair of Chronics that lasted me less than a quarter of the season, its hard to drop bank on park skis that dont hold up to all mountain riding, let alone light park skiing. Every time I clicked into them, another piece of them fell off until I lost literally all of the sidewall on one of them. Hopefully quality gets addressed soon but I wont be buying line skis again for a long time. First impressions are important.

Totally get the frustration -- but specifically regarding the chronic, we see really low warranty claim numbers on the ski. We put a lot into ensuring the skis we bring to market pass insane quality control parameters -- on top of building focusing on building durable products (fattest base and edge you can spec on a ski, for example). Bummed to hear you had a bad experience. Park skiing can be super rugged on product, as well all know. But we're pretty confident in our gear; we even upped our warranty to two years.

But if you guys have any more questions, gimme a shout directly (will@lineskis.com). We do what we can to keep ya hyped, because we're just a bunch of greasy ski rats at the end of the day, too.

Line_SkisTotally get the frustration -- but specifically regarding the chronic, we see really low warranty claim numbers on the ski. We put a lot into ensuring the skis we bring to market pass insane quality control parameters -- on top of building focusing on building durable products (fattest base and edge you can spec on a ski, for example). Bummed to hear you had a bad experience. Park skiing can be super rugged on product, as well all know. But we're pretty confident in our gear; we even upped our warranty to two years.

But if you guys have any more questions, gimme a shout directly (will@lineskis.com). We do what we can to keep ya hyped, because we're just a bunch of greasy ski rats at the end of the day, too.

Line_SkisTotally get the frustration -- but specifically regarding the chronic, we see really low warranty claim numbers on the ski. We put a lot into ensuring the skis we bring to market pass insane quality control parameters -- on top of building focusing on building durable products (fattest base and edge you can spec on a ski, for example). Bummed to hear you had a bad experience. Park skiing can be super rugged on product, as well all know. But we're pretty confident in our gear; we even upped our warranty to two years.

But if you guys have any more questions, gimme a shout directly (will@lineskis.com). We do what we can to keep ya hyped, because we're just a bunch of greasy ski rats at the end of the day, too.

Not just park skiing, a friend delamed a pair of mordecais skiing groomers. You guys were pretty cool about it tho and hooked him up with another pair, then he delamed them. And I guess you guys hooked him up with even another pair. Durability meh, customer service 10/10

Incredible point. We all saw what happened to Revision when they decided to sponsor "The Bunch"; they committed suicide after fucking over hundreds of young, impressionable "The Bunch" fanboys. Now that I think about it, Revision is the best ski brand to ever exist.

Profahoben_212props to you guys for commenting but pretty sure this isnt true. you use 2.0x2.5 mm edge right? and a 1.7mm base? not the thickest on the market

2.2x2.5m edges. There are only a few steel manufacturers supplying ski manufacturers, and this is the thickest steel we can spec. If we took the average width of the steel at the minimum cross-section, we could claim 2.5x2.5; but it seems to be a bit of a stretch -- and somewhat misleading.

Additionally, the 1.7 base spec compliments the edge thickness through the seating process. This is what we need to get the best bonding surface with our construction and edge choice (other skis use thinner edges, and as such, thinner base materials). This spec is accomplished by the supplier through sanding down the p-tex. Often times, the Ptex will arrive at 1.8mm (keep in mind .1mm is about as thick as a sheet of paper), but we've got to accommodate for the finishing process. All skis are sanded and ground to achieve a flat base; and if you have to spend a lot of time finishing a ski, you'll start shedding base material. So when we pull a ski out of a mold, and it goes to the finishing room, we assume we'll shed a touch of base material.

Anyway, that's about all I've got. We build skis we want to ski. Because we like skiing. Like a lot. Like A LOT A LOT. We also support skiers that are doing good by the sport itself. Because this sh*t is what we live for. Again, you can email me if you've got any more specific questions (will@lineskis.com) or give us a shout if you're in Seattle on a weekend and wanna shred.

-W.

skiermanIncredible point. We all saw what happened to Revision when they decided to sponsor "The Bunch"; they committed suicide after fucking over hundreds of young, impressionable "The Bunch" fanboys. Now that I think about it, Revision is the best ski brand to ever exist.

Yeah....I don't know what you're going for there, but I'm not gonna squabble with ya, Scott.

Not to knock, and fully acknowledging that the company makes many more times the volume than the other, but maybe part of the reason why indies like ON3P and Moment have more edge and base is because they require less finishing - which, after 4 years of hand finishing skis, I can tell you is directly related to construction/layup quality. Better input = better output.

And materials available to the ski industry is all based on demand. Every ski company is still usually just a sliver out of what a material supplier produces annually. Larger edge and base combos would be available; if skiers, and the companies they complain to, demand it.

1.7 mm base material is towards the top end of base thickness on the market. Might not be the absolute thickest, but it's pretty damn close. ON3P uses 1.8 mm base material, and as stated above, is about a paper's worth of additional thickness over Line's 1.7 mm base material.

RudyGarmischAnd materials available to the ski industry is all based on demand. Every ski company is still usually just a sliver out of what a material supplier produces annually. Larger edge and base combos would be available; if skiers, and the companies they complain to, demand it.

Honestly, We (Moment) and ON3P do pretty good volume collectively but you would really need a major brand to get on board for the edge mfg to make a new super thick edge product.

Additionally, 1.8mm base is a TON of plastic as is. Adding more plastic to the ski would make the setup insanely damp and heavy. Traits that are not particularly wanted in ski design (especially in todays world of lets all try and make super light skis because apparently everyone is going on a two week hut trip in the alps). You could also suggest that we get harder base that is more durable, but then wax wouldn't absorb very well and the customer would complain about their skis being slow. Like all design, there are trade offs and sometimes just "making a thicker base/edge" is not the solution. Maybe we need to bring back grind plates like on the Rossi Pow Airs? That could be cool.

I promise you that Moment and ON3P are always looking at ways to make skis better and last longer (especially for rails) but sometimes the solutions are not as straight forward as some may assume.

Always stoked to hear and hash out new concepts so keep the ideas rolling.

Line_Skis2.2x2.5m edges. There are only a few steel manufacturers supplying ski manufacturers, and this is the thickest steel we can spec. If we took the average width of the steel at the minimum cross-section, we could claim 2.5x2.5; but it seems to be a bit of a stretch -- and somewhat misleading.

Additionally, the 1.7 base spec compliments the edge thickness through the seating process. This is what we need to get the best bonding surface with our construction and edge choice (other skis use thinner edges, and as such, thinner base materials). This spec is accomplished by the supplier through sanding down the p-tex. Often times, the Ptex will arrive at 1.8mm (keep in mind .1mm is about as thick as a sheet of paper), but we've got to accommodate for the finishing process. All skis are sanded and ground to achieve a flat base; and if you have to spend a lot of time finishing a ski, you'll start shedding base material. So when we pull a ski out of a mold, and it goes to the finishing room, we assume we'll shed a touch of base material.

Anyway, that's about all I've got. We build skis we want to ski. Because we like skiing. Like a lot. Like A LOT A LOT. We also support skiers that are doing good by the sport itself. Because this sh*t is what we live for. Again, you can email me if you've got any more specific questions (will@lineskis.com) or give us a shout if you're in Seattle on a weekend and wanna shred.

-W.

Yeah....I don't know what you're going for there, but I'm not gonna squabble with ya, Scott.

Can't say anything about other Line products except for the Tigersnakes. Horrible skis. They were advertised towards beginner park riders. I started riding park this year and never hit big jumps or rail anything. I managed to break 2 pairs in under 3 months, with the same problem both times. In the end i had to cash out an extra $170 to upgrade my ski from Line. Even though they are cheap, please don't advertise them as something that they aren't. It's misleading for people that would like to get into park and can't afford to spew out $420 for a new pair every month.

LoudeeCan't say anything about other Line products except for the Tigersnakes. Horrible skis. They were advertised towards beginner park riders. I started riding park this year and never hit big jumps or rail anything. I managed to break 2 pairs in under 3 months, with the same problem both times. In the end i had to cash out an extra $170 to upgrade my ski from Line. Even though they are cheap, please don't advertise them as something that they aren't. It's misleading for people that would like to get into park and can't afford to spew out $420 for a new pair every month.

I feel like it’s never worth it to buy “beginner” park skis even as a beginner, as they’re often not made as well

LoudeeCan't say anything about other Line products except for the Tigersnakes. Horrible skis. They were advertised towards beginner park riders. I started riding park this year and never hit big jumps or rail anything. I managed to break 2 pairs in under 3 months, with the same problem both times. In the end i had to cash out an extra $170 to upgrade my ski from Line. Even though they are cheap, please don't advertise them as something that they aren't. It's misleading for people that would like to get into park and can't afford to spew out $420 for a new pair every month.

You guys dont make a single ski that can handle speeds for agressive riders. Even your sick day lineups tips fold in 3d snow. Mordecai and opus are borderline unskiable at speed, unless your maybe 120lbs. To me its a gimmicky company that make skis for fanboys not proper skiers.

Line_SkisTotally get the frustration -- but specifically regarding the chronic, we see really low warranty claim numbers on the ski. We put a lot into ensuring the skis we bring to market pass insane quality control parameters -- on top of building focusing on building durable products (fattest base and edge you can spec on a ski, for example). Bummed to hear you had a bad experience. Park skiing can be super rugged on product, as well all know. But we're pretty confident in our gear; we even upped our warranty to two years.
But if you guys have any more questions, gimme a shout directly (will@lineskis.com). We do what we can to keep ya hyped, because we're just a bunch of greasy ski rats at the end of the day, too.

Y'all make awesome products. Love what you bring to the industry. I had a pair of Anthems that legit lasted about 8 years of heavy rail/urban use until this season I had to hang em up. They were indestructible!

kirbstopperYou guys dont make a single ski that can handle speeds for agressive riders. Even your sick day lineups tips fold in 3d snow. Mordecai and opus are borderline unskiable at speed, unless your maybe 120lbs. To me its a gimmicky company that make skis for fanboys not proper skiers.

kirbstopperYou guys dont make a single ski that can handle speeds for agressive riders. Even your sick day lineups tips fold in 3d snow. Mordecai and opus are borderline unskiable at speed, unless your maybe 120lbs. To me its a gimmicky company that make skis for fanboys not proper skiers.

kirbstopperYou guys dont make a single ski that can handle speeds for agressive riders. Even your sick day lineups tips fold in 3d snow. Mordecai and opus are borderline unskiable at speed, unless your maybe 120lbs. To me its a gimmicky company that make skis for fanboys not proper skiers.

dont blame a ski company for your lack of skiing ability. you clearly do not know how to aggressively ski.

At a certain point a company is bigger than whatever ski they put out this year or if they have a bad run or get sold off or whatever. The sport of skiing owes Line a debt of gratitude for not only everything Jason Levinthal did but for giving Eric Pollard essentially 20 years of carte blanc to design skis and push the industry in ways that it desperately needed and now looks like a foregone conclusion in hindsight.

Yeah they got sold off and bought up, chewed up and spit out, and now are just kind of lost between trying to sell like K2 and trying to look like ON3P at the same time but the company has achieved iconic status and the ideals that Line represents will hopefully reincarnate themselves someday and they will find a way to contribute meaningfully to the industry again. Until then cut them some slack

skiermanIncredible point. We all saw what happened to Revision when they decided to sponsor "The Bunch"; they committed suicide after fucking over hundreds of young, impressionable "The Bunch" fanboys. Now that I think about it, Revision is the best ski brand to ever exist.

I've gotta find the thread I made that predicted Revison would go out of business. Their all the eggs in one basket approach with The Bunch/new wave bullshit was one of the points I highlighted.

That companies business model was unbelievably retarded, idk how people were surprised when they blew up.

Line_SkisTotally get the frustration -- but specifically regarding the chronic, we see really low warranty claim numbers on the ski. We put a lot into ensuring the skis we bring to market pass insane quality control parameters -- on top of building focusing on building durable products (fattest base and edge you can spec on a ski, for example). Bummed to hear you had a bad experience. Park skiing can be super rugged on product, as well all know. But we're pretty confident in our gear; we even upped our warranty to two years.

But if you guys have any more questions, gimme a shout directly (will@lineskis.com). We do what we can to keep ya hyped, because we're just a bunch of greasy ski rats at the end of the day, too.

I know I'm not alone in saying this, PUT THE FATTY BASE AND EDGE BACK ON THE BACON DAMNIT! You guys already have more lightweight bc/touring type skis, that's supposed to be the all mountain stick, so make it able to handle park abuse too so it can be a one ski quiver again. the skinny edges blow. heck I'm not even a fan of them for normal skiing, just way easier to blow out when you land on something skiing around.