Ballmer: "The Internet Was Designed For The PC. The Internet Is Not Designed For The iPhone"http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodget-ballmer-the-internet-was-designed-for-the-pc-the-internet-is-not-designed-for-the-iphone-2009-10/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Fri, 09 Dec 2016 20:55:21 -0500Henry Blodgethttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c741b207f8b9a664dea0000birumutTue, 24 Aug 2010 15:18:56 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c741b207f8b9a664dea0000
The ludicrousness of Ballmer's comment is that it plainly shows that he does not get that the Internet is bigger than the PC. It's a multi-medium, multi-device and multi-service domain. Love or hate Apple, they get this fact. Same with Google and Amazon. Not a lot of other companies, though.,
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Both Ballmer and Gates have prohibited any famous person in their own families to use any Apple product, including iPods and iPhones <a href="http://internetbusinessmakemoney.org/">business</a>. Both have flown the flag of "innovation" but its mode of operation is based more on guts, determination and competition in innovation. And part of that competitiveness means not giving any credence to its competitors, never buy their products, and basically deny its existence at every opportunity. Therefore, Microsoft executives really have their heads in the sand while everyone else has theirs come to light (usually pointing to their iPhones). However, in the technology, not innovation can be overcome with determination shear cutting. This is why Google and Apple and Microsoft are leaders is a follower. Thanks for sharing.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bfa8c187f8b9add79d00000ders zamanıMon, 24 May 2010 10:24:23 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bfa8c187f8b9add79d00000
Both Ballmer and Gates have famously prohibited anyone in their own families from using any Apple product, including iPods and iPhones. Both of them have waved the flag of "innovation", but their mode of operation is based more on guts, determination, and competitiveness than on innovation. And part of that competitiveness means never giving your competitors any credit, never buying their products, and basically denying their existence at every opportunity. Thus, Microsoft executives really do have their heads in the sand while everyone else has theirs out in the open (usually pointed at their iPhones). Yet in technology, you can't beat shear innovation with shear determination. This is why Google and Apple are leaders and Microsoft is a followerhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bfa8bd17f8b9a5e645a0100ders zamanıMon, 24 May 2010 10:23:13 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bfa8bd17f8b9a5e645a0100
"Let's face it, the Internet was designed for the PC. The Internet is not designed for the iPhone. That's why they've got 75,000 applications — they're all trying to make the Internet look decent on the iPhone."
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Both Ballmer and Gates have famously prohibited anyone in their own families from using any Apple product, including iPods and iPhones. Both of them have waved the flag of "innovation", but their mode of operation is based more on guts, determination, and competitiveness than on innovation. And part of that competitiveness means never giving your competitors any credit, never buying their products, and basically denying their existence at every opportunity. Thus, Microsoft executives really do have their heads in the sand while everyone else has theirs out in the open (usually pointed at their iPhones). Yet in technology, you can't beat shear innovation with shear determination. This is why Google and Apple are leaders and Microsoft is a follower. <a href="http://www.seslichatailesi.net">kameralı sohbet</a>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b769566000000000057540cunutulmazSat, 13 Feb 2010 07:04:53 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b769566000000000057540c
The Internet was not designed for neither, PC nor iPhone. It is a platform to deploy different type of applications. Devices - and I mean any device - will make use of these applications. The more device independent the apps are the better.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b74d3d2000000000030c262محمد الفهدThu, 11 Feb 2010 23:06:42 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b74d3d2000000000030c262
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Hes like a catholic priest trying to tell everyone that people reading the bible for themselves has ruined everything, LOL
Windows mobile was a complete joke, it was too clunky. Iphone is a great tool, and was never meant to replace the PC, but supplement it, and save time for users. Out of the 75000 apps probably only 50 are related to the internet, how many hundreds of programs are sold for the PC to fix simple problems in exchange server , outlook and sequal so that ordinary people can do ordinary things harnising its power ?
Would you say then that server technology is not for people ?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b060c0e000000000050f6dfdrumrobotThu, 19 Nov 2009 22:25:02 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b060c0e000000000050f6df
As a matter of fact, very few of the 100,000+ apps (not just 75,000) are for making the internet look good. Many of them are applications that are used to perform a service. For example, take the Flashlight app. That has nothing to with the internet.
{Ballmer}+{Question about a superior phone)=(Massive failure}http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae48aff00000000006737a7tzSun, 25 Oct 2009 13:29:35 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae48aff00000000006737a7
I don't understand Microsoft defender's mentalties. Look, MS has a 90+ % monopoly going. Why do you guys even care what the other 10% are doing? Why do you guys need to be so defensive and attack such insignificant players in the market? Don't be an elephant frightened by a mouse. MS is king. Relax.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae2c66800000000005e7518Robert J. HoltzSat, 24 Oct 2009 05:18:32 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae2c66800000000005e7518
Wow. Where to begin? Ballmer has never been 100% right about anything. The man contradicts himself. The Droid is good for the market and will take its place somewhere amongst the Blackberry and the Pre sharing part of the market. Windows 7 should have been known as Windows 6 -- Vista should never even have existed. It is nothing but a catch-up product to Leopard. Jobs may be many things but a fool is not among those things -- especially if you're going to compare him to Ballmer. Are you seriously going to claim that Ballmer is visionary? In what way? What innovations has he created? What contribution has Steve Ballmer made to the world of personal computing or media? OS9 WAS a disaster but it was close to ten years ago buddy -- Vista was the latest release as recently as last week. The latest release of Mac OS X is in many ways five releases later considering it constitutes Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard, and Snow Leopard. Mac OS X became world class again with Tiger. In many ways WIndows 7 is a catchup to Leopard. Snow Leopard takes advantage of the 64-bit architecture at a level that even Windows 7 does not yet accomplish. As for Apple making toys, if you mean they are elegantly designed enough that using them feels like child play then we agree. If you are seriously trying to suggest that Apple products are less solid or less professionally designed than Microsoft, you sir are living in an alternate universe.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae2c2250000000000bf31ebRobert J. HoltzSat, 24 Oct 2009 05:00:21 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae2c2250000000000bf31eb
Sign me up! jk... kinda. ;Phttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae1d36c00000000000860afTruthSeekerFri, 23 Oct 2009 12:01:48 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae1d36c00000000000860af
Ballmer is 100% right. You can't do anything productive on the iPhone because it's a toy for children to play with. The new Android phone from Verizon is going to make mince meat of the iDon't. Here's the reality of things. Apple makes toys for childrent to play with. Their market share in the business world is shrinking not growing. The iPhone has 85,000 applications only 1% of which do anything useful. Windows 7 is a killer OS and all Apple can do is make high-school level derogatory remarks to try to stop the Windows freight train from crushing them all over again. Their computers are wildly overpriced and useless unless Windows is installed on them. Jobs is not a genius but a fool who lost the PC market 20 years ago with his arrogance and refusal to license his OS. And ever since then he's been trying to get it back. Talk about horrible operating systems does anyone remember the disaster of OS 9? I do. OS 9 made Vista look like a Ferrari. APPLE MAKES TOYS FOR CHILDREN TO PLAY WITH! End of story,http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae1b9fd0000000000961263Mick BlackledgeFri, 23 Oct 2009 10:13:17 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae1b9fd0000000000961263
Tom on Oct 22, 6:13 AM said:
"You cannot type a 5K essay, you cannot do detailed "
Sorry. Wrong.
I got one from my iPhoner 15 year old son last week from his english class. I was amazed. You are dating yourself with poor typing skills. The young prople find a way.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae1b006000000000081bc82Robert J. HoltzFri, 23 Oct 2009 09:30:46 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae1b006000000000081bc82
Precisely right. Amen brother. ^^
I'll always give Sun Microsystems due credit for this one:
THE NETWORK IS THE COMPUTERhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae1aef00000000000a0705aRobert J. HoltzFri, 23 Oct 2009 09:26:07 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae1aef00000000000a0705a
Agreed.
This is at the heart of Ballmer's blind spot. Plus his remark is factually untrue. The Internet was NOT designed for the PC. The Internet is a network of networks and inter-network. Desktop computers and terminals were our first access point to the network. As we've advanced the access points, we've advanced what flows through the network. It isn't a shift in paradigm so much as an evolution. That is why ultimately as we have more and more forms of access points it will eventually make more sense to leave the content inside the network -- in the cloud -- leaving the local storage and processing power to very task focused applications.
As that continues to happen, it isn't about making web pages fit on a little screen. It is on using the network TRANSACTIONALLY which apps do rather elegantly.
So I argue... "Wrong, Mr. Ballmer. The Internet was not designed for any device or platform. It is a network with a massive globally-accessible repository. What devices and platforms will the world create to use this network and add value to it?"
Apple understands this which is why long ago they branched well beyond writing software for desktops. Let's face it, Microsoft would not ever made one Zune had Apple not had a hit with the iPod.
Consider this... I believe the reason Windows Mobile never became the de facto platform for all cell phones is because it only appealed to people who wanted their phone to act like Windows. When Apple made the iPhone, they didn't think... "Hmmm, how can we put the Mac OS experience into a little box with a recycle bin and a Finder?" They said, "how do we make a phone device converge with an Internet device?" and they yielded something that is very purposeful in its design. Apps are a perfect outgrowth of that and a model of how to build a software platform for third party developers to add value.
Bottom line, Steve Ballmer WISHES he had 75,000 apps from his developers developer developers developers. He is knocking them because what else can he say? He doesn't understand what the value proposition is of the Internet beyond using it through a PC on a full screen desktop. That is a HUGE limitation when you're talking about a corporate vision. Stunning if you stop to think about it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae11f51000000000037af84joanThu, 22 Oct 2009 23:13:21 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae11f51000000000037af84
Aren't there mobile phones with 800x480 screen resolution? Couldn't a portable wireless keyboard be used to type a 5k essay and do all the other tasks possible on a computer? It wasn't that long ago that PC screens were 800x600.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae0ba44000000000098812aRaphael CornuzThu, 22 Oct 2009 16:02:11 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae0ba44000000000098812a
There's no comparison in fact. iPhone are used to read and post content of Internet (as I do right now), but with PCs we built Internet.. by hosting it and developing it.
Even Ballmer is wrong, Internet is all of it, the content and the container, and Internet evolves constantly.. what it will be tomorrow? Its what we do with it, not it was designed for 25 years ago.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae0ba330000000000402217Ted T.Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:01:55 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae0ba330000000000402217
Yes you are correct, PCs didn't exist when the Arpanet (the Internet's direct progenitor) came into existence in 1969 and was renamed "Internet" in the 80's. Neither network was PC based in its origins. Someone said the Internet was was based on PDP-11s (DEC mini computers -- PCs are micros on the mainframe/mini/micro scale), but Arpanet clearly predates even the PDP-11.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae0b7a900000000008d8403Ted T.Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:51:05 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae0b7a900000000008d8403
Wow, Apple surpassing Microsoft in market cap is about a year away...
The problem with all the Ballmer bashing, as deserved as it may be, is that it is totally unclear to me who could replace him at Microsoft and make a genuine positive difference for the company.
Any candidates?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae09f3c0000000000b3e6ebMarah MarieThu, 22 Oct 2009 14:06:52 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae09f3c0000000000b3e6eb
That was hilarious. B.'s opening salvo especially.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae09cc900000000005eb44bMarah MarieThu, 22 Oct 2009 13:56:25 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae09cc900000000005eb44b
It's exactly the same. More JavaScript, more API calls, more AJAX, more high-res imagery, and more "connecting" on Facebook and Twitter do not make for anything different from what it was in the first place.
Nothing has changed from the days of flat, imageless page layouts and IRC. Think about it. Same shit, different names, and longer load times unless you're on a fast connection.
The day the Internet actually changes, since by definition it can't, someone let me know.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae08c8f000000000063dd09Mac BeachThu, 22 Oct 2009 12:47:11 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae08c8f000000000063dd09
I'm certainly no MS fan, but it's probably more fair to compare market cap:
AAPL 183.73B
GOOG 174.00B
MSFT 235.43B
Using that metric Microsoft's position is eroding, but still strong.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae08c17000000000056b96bVic RileyThu, 22 Oct 2009 12:45:08 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae08c17000000000056b96b
Both Ballmer and Gates have famously prohibited anyone in their own families from using any Apple product, including iPods and iPhones. Both of them have waved the flag of "innovation", but their mode of operation is based more on guts, determination, and competitiveness than on innovation. And part of that competitiveness means never giving your competitors any credit, never buying their products, and basically denying their existence at every opportunity. Thus, Microsoft executives really do have their heads in the sand while everyone else has theirs out in the open (usually pointed at their iPhones). Yet in technology, you can't beat shear innovation with shear determination. This is why Google and Apple are leaders and Microsoft is a follower.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae083760000000000fa6a3bjroThu, 22 Oct 2009 12:08:22 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae083760000000000fa6a3b
Just a nit: agree with the assessments, but using stock prices as a reflection of said assessments is foolish. I can show different points in time where Steve Case, Scott McNealy, Ken Lay, etc. look downright brilliant based on that premise.
Doesn't make Jobs less visionary or Ballmer less of a tool, though.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae0687400000000002d220cKareemThu, 22 Oct 2009 10:13:08 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae0687400000000002d220c
I don't think he's correct, I think the platform hasn't developed enough yet. However, in the current state I can understand his thought process. 75,000 apps and they are mostly useless. I TRY to find apps I would want to use, I've downloaded about 20, but most of them just aren't useful. FB.
It's no wonder the top apps are all games = useless time-wasters.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae062920000000000697996watchdogThu, 22 Oct 2009 09:48:02 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae062920000000000697996
But MOBILITY is key. There are 4 billion mobile phones. By 2010, there will be more smartphones sold per year than PCs.
Smartphones are a complement to PCs, but in time, for most people, all they will need is a smartphone, not a PC, because they will value mobility and anytime/anywhere creation of simple content, over deep content creation (for which you need a PC, or maybe a tablet?).
For most people, the Internet is for just snacking - quick articles/info retrieval, short videos.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae055830000000000b9b74bConfusedThu, 22 Oct 2009 08:52:19 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae055830000000000b9b74b
uhhh..sounds like people are confusing the World Wide Web with the Internet...I don't think PCs were even around when the Internet was built. Am I wrong? Hypertext came later, and if you think about the Ballmer's comment in this context you'll realize it doesn't hold water.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae053ce000000000005e6f8MikeThu, 22 Oct 2009 08:45:02 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae053ce000000000005e6f8
Steve Ballmer = Tool
Steve Jobs = Visionary
MSFT = 26.58
AAPL = 204.92
Google = 551.10
That about sums it up, no?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae04ddd00000000009d09f9Business FinderThu, 22 Oct 2009 08:19:41 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae04ddd00000000009d09f9
That was a senseless comment. The internet (as in information medium) can be used in MANY applications.
It's also odd how only the iPhone is picked on - what about the PSP?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae04b1c0000000000d77400Jeremy WaThu, 22 Oct 2009 08:07:55 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae04b1c0000000000d77400
The point is very simple.
MSFT is a company that is going out of business because of this bloody fool. He missed the whole import of computing: it can be anywhere the user is and his broken down excuse for a competitive entity forgot that.
Within 5-10 years, there will be no desktop or laptop or handset. there will simply be one device that is always with you. It home, you will connect it to a spacious screen and keyboard by bluetooth; likewise at the office. While you are away from home or office, you will have a screen that can be 3.5 inches or, if you fold it out, 9-10 inches.
Here is the takeaway: it will NOT be an MSFT device because the horrid fool of a manager, the ranting, knuckle dragging gorilla who is the CEO spent all of the first decade of the century defending his rapidly depreciating monopolies. Consequently, he could not see the direction (See e.g., Mary Meeker) the world is taking.
Stupid Ballmer shoveled vast resources into yet another version of the disaster OS, Windows and starved WinMo. As a consequence, WinMo which was ill-conceived as a shrunken headed version of Win is simply obsolete junk. (It never was very good but it had no real competition; as soon as it got competition, it was seen for the roadkill that it is.)
Next year, WinMo will become WinMo7. Given its parentage, it is already a failure because unlocked consumers do not want to put up with the obviously third rate software expression of the F- you mentality. WinMo could survive in a forced choice corporate environment. In a free choice environment, WinMo is a sure loser. No one with an IQ above his show size uses WinMo because it is so clunky, kludgey, and clumsy. Only someone as obtuse and grossly oblivious as Ballmer could consider his product offering as competitive.
Simply, Ballmer missed the train; it is not coming back. When the iPhone reaches to every country, users will adopt it over the decrepit nonsense from the BloatFarm.
Ballmer will have been seen as presiding over the largest value destruction in history, a corporate Bernie Madoff.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae0499a000000000044963aBThu, 22 Oct 2009 08:01:30 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae0499a000000000044963a
Is the Internet the same as it was a decade ago?
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The iphone does a great job of rendering the internet on mobile phones. But its not the iphone that is the issue - its the internet issue with mobile phones and their screen realestate. Mobile phones still retain their one core phone - communication. Whether its facebook, twitter or email - this is all they are good for.
You cannot do serious work on an iphone. You cannot type a 5K essay, you cannot do detailed graphic design work or program or build HTML or do the other 1000s of other work functions of a PC or a Mac. The utility of a mobile phone in its current form is always restricted - it could never - and i restate that never - replace the utility of a PC.
Mobile phones are built entirely for their communicative and gaming functions. They are meant to allow people to "flick off an email" or answer "yes or no". The simple fact of the matter is that the Internet was NOT designed for the phone - the change is that browser rendering is now better on mobile phones but the statement "the internet was not designed for the iphone" is absolutely true. Look back to the original structural documents of Sir Tim Berners-Lee to see that. The 75K of applications are primarily just facilitators which plugin to other core work functions of a PC - they are not mean to REPLACE rather COMPLEMENT fixed devices.
Speed, performance and the ability to navigate through a browser will never be faster on a mobile than a PC/Mac. Simply because of the user interface afforded through large screens allows faster navigation and productivity. The point is my statement before
"they are not mean to REPLACE rather COMPLEMENT. "http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae0133e0000000000fac304Mark SigalThu, 22 Oct 2009 04:09:34 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae0133e0000000000fac304
The ludicrousness of Ballmer's comment is that it plainly shows that he does not get that the Internet is bigger than the PC. It's a multi-medium, multi-device and multi-service domain. Love or hate Apple, they get this fact. Same with Google and Amazon. Not a lot of other companies, though.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae0078d0000000000342c6cGeoff HThu, 22 Oct 2009 03:19:41 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ae0078d0000000000342c6c
Ballmer's History Lesson: The internet was designed for the DEC PDP-11. Which was a mini, not a PC.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adffef90000000000b08babMajortomThu, 22 Oct 2009 02:43:05 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adffef90000000000b08bab
Sup Ballmer.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adffed20000000000099ec5bbThu, 22 Oct 2009 02:42:26 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adffed20000000000099ec5
In another life Balmer would have been a ship captain. On the Titanic!!! Hey Balmer you should try more fruit in your diet. Maybe an Apple.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adff40b000000000093a2c8JamesonThu, 22 Oct 2009 01:56:27 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adff40b000000000093a2c8
And copying the Windows engineering principle is why most web sites, including this one, is now over-bloated, hard to use, wastes real estate, full of crap, badly designed, over-used resources, and impossible to navigate. The need to re-design for the mobile web has been a welcome shift, and smart companies are taking advantage of the new market and platform. News Flash: users actually enjoy apps that just work the way they are supposed to, without garbage cluttering up their screen.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfef0d00000000009bfbefJulianThu, 22 Oct 2009 01:35:09 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfef0d00000000009bfbef
Whoah! This may be a flippant comment but I think it reveals a lot. One of the reasons the iPhone has been successful is the number of resources that app developers can draw upon, Internet connectivity, a great screen, accelorometers, GPS, novel interface, microphone, camera, mobility.... This creates a fantastic platform for innovative apps that go beyond "the Internet". C'mon Steve, you must get it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfec7a000000000029be1ebrianThu, 22 Oct 2009 01:24:10 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfec7a000000000029be1e
Wow...
Gates must be so embarrassed that this bozo Balmer is running this once great company.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfe7c30000000000c73eeeglennThu, 22 Oct 2009 01:04:02 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfe7c30000000000c73eee
Every time Balmer opens his mouth he shows what a clueless ass he is. How is an iphone different from a pc circa 2001 ? Screen resolution ?.... not processing power or OS capability.
Just look at the web browser stats. People are using the iphone/itouch because it simply works. I browse websites (including this one) daily. I don't need special apps to get to the websites, i just use mobile safari.
Do you think Balmer ever used an iphone ? I bet not.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfe4a70000000000506bbbLOLThu, 22 Oct 2009 00:50:46 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfe4a70000000000506bbb
Well, looking at the hit stats now, overall numbers don't seem usually low anymore.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfe367000000000011c838LOLThu, 22 Oct 2009 00:45:26 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfe367000000000011c838
Yeah, see my slideshow-vs-hits comment followed by the usual anti-slideshow comments from some readers. Personally, I don't mind the slideshows as a format.
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-customers-freak-out-over-new-macs-2009-10http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfe1e100000000003f0080LOLThu, 22 Oct 2009 00:38:57 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfe1e100000000003f0080
IE8 kicks ass. I have switched from FF. Try it yourself.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfdfbc0000000000a7014dChemThu, 22 Oct 2009 00:29:47 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfdfbc0000000000a7014d
I actually like MSFT, but he was a fool to say that.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfd0b400000000001f3b3dsent2nullWed, 21 Oct 2009 23:25:40 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfd0b400000000001f3b3d
"He's right, obviously" to some one as myopic about the reasons the internet was created as he is sure he is..but he's completely wrong and making the statement to serve his companies abysmal failure to exploit the mobile web. How long did it take for "pc's" to get to the point where using the internet became actually commercially useful (in the graphical www invented by Tim-Berners Lee) ..20+ years! So this over paid idiot continues to make the brain dead quotes his partner (Bill G) did about the internet but this time on the mobile device platform..as they say people get promoted to their level of incompetence. DARPA didn't fund the net so that it could work for a single device it was made to ensure communications of mobile and stationary elements (troops, tanks, jets, awac's..etc) in a war!! You don't get a more stringent design requirement than that...but there goes Balmer blowing it out his ass.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfce2f0000000000ed36d9Tim F.Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:14:55 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfce2f0000000000ed36d9
Hasn't Microsoft been saying for more than 5 years (up until the iPhone was released) that Windows wouldn't only maintain its strength but grow it through the larger market of cellphones where much of the world is interacting with the Internet in the first substantial way on their cellphones?
And if the Internet ends up being replicated on smaller form factors via many apps that act as services which are quick and simple and can interact with one another and the device's core functions (iPhone + 85,000 apps using mobile OS APIs and Internet content and services), I'm not so sure that is worse than the PC's Internet (even if it's a little different) -- particularly when it coexists, syncs, and interacts with that "superior" PC Internet. One would even argue that the interaction of the Internet experiences across all form factors (in Microsoft's words, three screens) is the "true" Internet, anyway.
Not only is it blatantly obvious that the argument doesn't necessarily bode well for Microsoft's future strategies and is a complete reversal of Microsoft's alleged vision of the past decade, I'm not even sure it's right. And if this statement, out of context, is his best statement of Microsoft's strategy, it doesn't seem like Ballmer is articulating their own vision well.
Hopefully, it's taken out of context, and the CEO does better understand the Internet across a range of devices, form factors, and experiences.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfcd300000000000f5ae2fMarah MarieWed, 21 Oct 2009 23:10:39 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfcd300000000000f5ae2f
Exactly my thought...I didn't see a rant. Then again, there are so many blogs under the AI/BI umbrella these days, a single rant could be easily missed.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfc85c0000000000d03ad4ryanhindingerWed, 21 Oct 2009 22:50:04 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfc85c0000000000d03ad4
Ballmer can talk about the Internet on the iPhone when he can properly explain just what IE8 is...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfc77500000000008e2aabitsaliveWed, 21 Oct 2009 22:46:13 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfc77500000000008e2aab
Ballmer is always talking through his ass, and it stinks.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfc6280000000000699696Henry BlodgetWed, 21 Oct 2009 22:40:40 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfc6280000000000699696
Did someone rant yesterday? Missed it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfc1690000000000ab67e0MajortomWed, 21 Oct 2009 22:20:25 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfc1690000000000ab67e0
Let's face it, IE6-8 was never designed for human use.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfbbfb0000000000f11362BoroWed, 21 Oct 2009 21:57:15 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfbbfb0000000000f11362
Oh, he gets it , all right.... He just doesnt like the facts..... And he's furious.... as he always is.... :)http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfbbae00000000007f60f9LOLWed, 21 Oct 2009 21:55:58 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfbbae00000000007f60f9
I agree with Henry that Ballmer was right and pretty funny.
The only thing you gain with iphone or any other phone apps is MOBILITY. Everything else in user experience sucks. People have to write a new app instead of focusing on contents just to work around the limitation of bandwidth and power. Instead of just a web browser with bunch of bookmarks, now you have WSJ App, NYT App, Bloomberg App, Etrade app, Ameritrade App, calendar app, map app, restaurant finder app, on and on and on...
BTW, what's up with the low page hits across the site today? I see SAI is not using the slideshows much today. Is that because of my rant yesterday? With or without the slideshow boost, the numbers seem way lower than usual. Hmm...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfba0f0000000000b86ac1ashleyWed, 21 Oct 2009 21:49:02 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfba0f0000000000b86ac1
I think this study is something Ballmer should read. He doesn't get it.
Users who access the web on their mobile phone rarely browse
for more than a few minutes at a time. This is a major difference
between the fixed and mobile webs: the PC offers a rich and
comfortable setting where users can be engaged, while the mobile
phone is a snacking device, where content must be delivered and
consumed in minutes or seconds. This difference in time scales
has important implications that must be understood by brands, to
create quality mobile content, and by search engines, to index
those contents effectively.
The mobile web is a new medium, separate and different from
the fixed web, offering a specific set of challenges and
opportunities.
This paper provides a few keys to help understand it.
www.abphone.com/web/whitepaper.jsphttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfb7e60000000000737ab5fabian schonholzWed, 21 Oct 2009 21:39:49 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfb7e60000000000737ab5
The Internet was not designed for neither, PC nor iPhone. It is a platform to deploy different type of applications. Devices - and I mean any device - will make use of these applications. The more device independent the apps are the better.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfb4c9000000000087fbb1Take2Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:26:33 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfb4c9000000000087fbb1
75.000 times better...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfb35100000000002416a9FredZWed, 21 Oct 2009 21:20:16 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfb35100000000002416a9
And Apple is any better?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfb0640000000000de10a6html > appsWed, 21 Oct 2009 21:07:48 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfb0640000000000de10a6
you are so entirely wrong. linking from one page to another is why the internet is great. you know how you see a cool link and click it, go there, and consume the content? yah?
wouldn't it be better if you saw a cool link, clicked it, got told to install that links custom application, searched for it in the store, payed for it, and then got to consume the content? no? i didn't think so.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfaf870000000000c2ed10Take3Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:04:06 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfaf870000000000c2ed10
Ballmer: "The Internet is not designed for the iPhone. That's why they've got 75,000 applications — they're all trying to make the Internet look decent on the iPhone."
Nothing illustrates better than this quote that Mr. Ballmer still does not really get the shift of paradigm of entire Internet. The point of the Internet is that it can "look" very differently, there is no one "decent look". And there is no just "one right application" to deliver that "one decent look".
The Internet made room for 75.000+ applications... it does not have to be a world with one windows, one office and one company to rake in all the profit.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfab3e00000000001ceceaTake2Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:45:50 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfab3e00000000001cecea
Breaking news for Mr. Ballmer: <b>the iPhone (and similar devices) are increasingly the PC.</b>
Microsoft never gets it in time when it comes to the Internet. Bill Gates used to tell in the late eighties for business audiences abroad that the Internet was for college kids, not for serious businesses.
If Microsoft invented the Internet (which would not have happened, anyway), it would be a closed network for Fortune 500 companies, with user license requirement for each connection on the web server - just like the original Microsoft web server licensing was introduced.
<b>The entire "Internet-thing" with it's wide open philosophy is just not in the DNA of Microsoft, which was built on the principals of the complete opposite. In case of Microsoft the inability to click with anything related to the Internet is not a technical issue, it's a core corporate philosophy and culture - or the lack of it.</b>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfa4d600000000007dfbffHashim WarrenWed, 21 Oct 2009 20:18:30 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4adfa4d600000000007dfbff
Mobile Apps > Web Pages