Viewpoint wrote:Of course they are as if you are a Turkish or Greek Cypriot you have a vested interest in this island.

...if you live on this island, even if you are Portugese, you own land, a home, or raise a family, you have a vested interest in Cyprus. but seriously, i've seen you pick on bill c, and now claret, where were you born, why is that important?

bill is a UK chav who sold his semi detached and is living of the interest in the sun, how can his love of Cyprus compare to mine and 400+ years of history and struggle related to this land. I was born in the UK but my love and feeling of belonging has always been fist for North Cyprus.

what a twisted form of logic, born in Britain, never having lived in Cyprus, calling bill c a "UK chav". i let your own words speak for themselves.

VP , astonishingly said: " bill is a UK chav who sold his semi detached and is living of the interest in the sun, how can his love of Cyprus compare to mine and 400+ years of history and struggle related to this land. I was born in the UK but my love and feeling of belonging has always been fist for North Cyprus."I believe Bill is a G/C, if you have 400 years of history how many do you think he has.So, you were not even born in Cyprus, yet you impose your "Turkish mainland" indoctrinated views on genuine T/Cs!!Can you tell us about your love of Cyprus up to the time that the pseudo state was created?I'll be damned !

Viewpoint wrote:Of course they are as if you are a Turkish or Greek Cypriot you have a vested interest in this island.

...if you live on this island, even if you are Portugese, you own land, a home, or raise a family, you have a vested interest in Cyprus. but seriously, i've seen you pick on bill c, and now claret, where were you born, why is that important?

bill is a UK chav who sold his semi detached and is living of the interest in the sun, how can his love of Cyprus compare to mine and 400+ years of history and struggle related to this land. I was born in the UK but my love and feeling of belonging has always been fist for North Cyprus.

what a twisted form of logic, born in Britain, never having lived in Cyprus, calling bill c a "UK chav". i let your own words speak for themselves.

...seems a little hypocritical, don't you think, vp?

rw i am sure vp does not call bill c a chav just because he was born in the uk, it is because he is a chav.

Viewpoint wrote:Of course they are as if you are a Turkish or Greek Cypriot you have a vested interest in this island.

...if you live on this island, even if you are Portugese, you own land, a home, or raise a family, you have a vested interest in Cyprus. but seriously, i've seen you pick on bill c, and now claret, where were you born, why is that important?

bill is a UK chav who sold his semi detached and is living of the interest in the sun, how can his love of Cyprus compare to mine and 400+ years of history and struggle related to this land. I was born in the UK but my love and feeling of belonging has always been fist for North Cyprus.

what a twisted form of logic, born in Britain, never having lived in Cyprus, calling bill c a "UK chav". i let your own words speak for themselves.

...seems a little hypocritical, don't you think, vp?

Not at all, this is a man who is English and came from the UK to live in South Cyprus, he has no Cypriot roots be it Turkish or Greek yet tell us what to do in our own country,would he like it if foreigners told him what to do in the UK? hes a foreigner enjoying this island but his real homeland is where his history is and thats the UK not Cyprus.....if he is still here in 400 years time we will reconsider his situation.

claret21 wrote:VP , astonishingly said: " bill is a UK chav who sold his semi detached and is living of the interest in the sun, how can his love of Cyprus compare to mine and 400+ years of history and struggle related to this land. I was born in the UK but my love and feeling of belonging has always been fist for North Cyprus."I believe Bill is a G/C, if you have 400 years of history how many do you think he has.So, you were not even born in Cyprus, yet you impose your "Turkish mainland" indoctrinated views on genuine T/Cs!!Can you tell us about your love of Cyprus up to the time that the pseudo state was created?I'll be damned !

Please state where I have actually forced "Turkish mainland indoctrinated views on genuine T/Cs" ask any other TC on this forum and you will get similar responses to mine (Kikapooo is not a TC) If bill is a GC then why does he not own up to it? what is he ashamed of?

Why should I reveal more personal details for you to try and rip to shreds when you are not being honest by telling us what your relation is to this island and whether you are a GC or a TC, where you reside, have you ever been to North or South Cyprus? Then you will get my answers but not before.

claret21 wrote:VP , astonishingly said: " bill is a UK chav who sold his semi detached and is living of the interest in the sun, how can his love of Cyprus compare to mine and 400+ years of history and struggle related to this land. I was born in the UK but my love and feeling of belonging has always been fist for North Cyprus."I believe Bill is a G/C, if you have 400 years of history how many do you think he has.So, you were not even born in Cyprus, yet you impose your "Turkish mainland" indoctrinated views on genuine T/Cs!!Can you tell us about your love of Cyprus up to the time that the pseudo state was created?I'll be damned !

Please state where I have actually forced "Turkish mainland indoctrinated views on genuine T/Cs" ask any other TC on this forum and you will get similar responses to mine (Kikapooo is not a TC) If bill is a GC then why does he not own up to it? what is he ashamed of?

Why should I reveal more personal details for you to try and rip to shreds when you are not being honest by telling us what your relation is to this island and whether you are a GC or a TC, where you reside, have you ever been to North or South Cyprus? Then you will get my answers but not before.

I cant see where I have been dishonest but not revealing personal details to you, other than say that I have been to Cyprus on many occasions, I have also visited the occupied areas on numerous occasions. I have met countless T/Cs, most, in the majority, want the T.A out, want to live in peace with their fellow Cypriots provided that they feel safe and equal under the law. I have also encountered hundreds of ex-pats who have been fleeced by the corrupt to the bone Turkish army administered judicial system.I know a great deal about the mafia bank by the name of Akfinans, that literally walks into peoples houses and changes locks repossessing the property for which the senile Ex pats invested money in.The " authorities" are a joke, corrupt, indifferent to international legal norms and as bent as you would expect.I have also seen those genuine wonderful T/Cs who are not like you in the least. You come across as a Turkish nationalist and just like the Greek nationalists you are the reason the reason that this island is divided. As to whether I'm of G/C or T/C extraction, English or other, I shall reveal with my final post, my 100th.My love for Cyprus and its people, G/Cs, T/Cs, as well as those... curvy newcomers from Eastern Europe is genuine I can assure you.!!

claret21 wrote:VP , astonishingly said: " bill is a UK chav who sold his semi detached and is living of the interest in the sun, how can his love of Cyprus compare to mine and 400+ years of history and struggle related to this land. I was born in the UK but my love and feeling of belonging has always been fist for North Cyprus."I believe Bill is a G/C, if you have 400 years of history how many do you think he has.So, you were not even born in Cyprus, yet you impose your "Turkish mainland" indoctrinated views on genuine T/Cs!!Can you tell us about your love of Cyprus up to the time that the pseudo state was created?I'll be damned !

Please state where I have actually forced "Turkish mainland indoctrinated views on genuine T/Cs" ask any other TC on this forum and you will get similar responses to mine (Kikapooo is not a TC) If bill is a GC then why does he not own up to it? what is he ashamed of?

Why should I reveal more personal details for you to try and rip to shreds when you are not being honest by telling us what your relation is to this island and whether you are a GC or a TC, where you reside, have you ever been to North or South Cyprus? Then you will get my answers but not before.

I cant see where I have been dishonest but not revealing personal details to you, other than say that I have been to Cyprus on many occasions, I have also visited the occupied areas on numerous occasions. I have met countless T/Cs, most, in the majority, want the T.A out, want to live in peace with their fellow Cypriots provided that they feel safe and equal under the law. I have also encountered hundreds of ex-pats who have been fleeced by the corrupt to the bone Turkish army administered judicial system.I know a great deal about the mafia bank by the name of Akfinans, that literally walks into peoples houses and changes locks repossessing the property for which the senile Ex pats invested money in.The " authorities" are a joke, corrupt, indifferent to international legal norms and as bent as you would expect.I have also seen those genuine wonderful T/Cs who are not like you in the least. You come across as a Turkish nationalist and just like the Greek nationalists you are the reason the reason that this island is divided. As to whether I'm of G/C or T/C extraction, English or other, I shall reveal with my final post, my 100th.My love for Cyprus and its people, G/Cs, T/Cs, as well as those... curvy newcomers from Eastern Europe is genuine I can assure you.!!

We have an excuse of not being recognized and isolated, what have you got to say about whats going on in the south which is part of the EU, surely that is far more important you must have plenty of negatives to say about how south Cyprus is being run.

The importance of revealing your ethenticity allows us to understand your point of view, there are very few TCs and Gcs who are totally unbiased. At a guess and from your comments II would say you are a UK born GC as you clearly show favouritism towards the GCs because you never say anything negative about the corruption, killings and economic crisis in EU south Cyprus or you are a relative of one of the Ex pats that bought property that was charged to a bank and whom didnt bother to make the necessary checks to save a few hundred quid solicitors fees.

claret21 wrote:VP , astonishingly said: " bill is a UK chav who sold his semi detached and is living of the interest in the sun, how can his love of Cyprus compare to mine and 400+ years of history and struggle related to this land. I was born in the UK but my love and feeling of belonging has always been fist for North Cyprus."I believe Bill is a G/C, if you have 400 years of history how many do you think he has.So, you were not even born in Cyprus, yet you impose your "Turkish mainland" indoctrinated views on genuine T/Cs!!Can you tell us about your love of Cyprus up to the time that the pseudo state was created?I'll be damned !

Please state where I have actually forced "Turkish mainland indoctrinated views on genuine T/Cs" ask any other TC on this forum and you will get similar responses to mine (Kikapooo is not a TC) If bill is a GC then why does he not own up to it? what is he ashamed of?

Why should I reveal more personal details for you to try and rip to shreds when you are not being honest by telling us what your relation is to this island and whether you are a GC or a TC, where you reside, have you ever been to North or South Cyprus? Then you will get my answers but not before.

I cant see where I have been dishonest but not revealing personal details to you, other than say that I have been to Cyprus on many occasions, I have also visited the occupied areas on numerous occasions. I have met countless T/Cs, most, in the majority, want the T.A out, want to live in peace with their fellow Cypriots provided that they feel safe and equal under the law. I have also encountered hundreds of ex-pats who have been fleeced by the corrupt to the bone Turkish army administered judicial system.I know a great deal about the mafia bank by the name of Akfinans, that literally walks into peoples houses and changes locks repossessing the property for which the senile Ex pats invested money in.The " authorities" are a joke, corrupt, indifferent to international legal norms and as bent as you would expect.I have also seen those genuine wonderful T/Cs who are not like you in the least. You come across as a Turkish nationalist and just like the Greek nationalists you are the reason the reason that this island is divided. As to whether I'm of G/C or T/C extraction, English or other, I shall reveal with my final post, my 100th.My love for Cyprus and its people, G/Cs, T/Cs, as well as those... curvy newcomers from Eastern Europe is genuine I can assure you.!!

We have an excuse of not being recognized and isolated, what have you got to say about whats going on in the south which is part of the EU, surely that is far more important you must have plenty of negatives to say about how south Cyprus is being run.

The importance of revealing your ethenticity allows us to understand your point of view, there are very few TCs and Gcs who are totally unbiased. At a guess and from your comments II would say you are a UK born GC as you clearly show favouritism towards the GCs because you never say anything negative about the corruption, killings and economic crisis in EU south Cyprus or you are a relative of one of the Ex pats that bought property that was charged to a bank and whom didnt bother to make the necessary checks to save a few hundred quid solicitors fees.

How terribly wrong you are VP, on entering this forum I begun by harshly criticizing the corruption, greed and thecloseness with a foreign nation, namely Greece, a nation that I consider to be utterly responsible for the two major catastrophes afflicting Cyprus, one, the Turkish invasion of 1974, and two, the economic collapse of the Cypriot economy.I'm highly critical of the ruling elite who have reduced the economy to ruins, I love the people and I love the nation but it saddens me to see how corruption has taken over in the RoC.As far as the senile fools who invested in the occupied parts, I suggest you take a look at www.northcyprusfreepress.com where you will see for yourself how disgruntled the ex pats are .Some would say it serves them right and I agree.Going back to the RoC and the ensuing economic meltdown, one can not help but feel revulsion at the fact that so many, mostly in the know, managed to get their dosh out days before the infamous" haircut" and I ask my self, were they told by government sources , bank officials of the impending crush, and I answer, Yes they were !I'm also highly critical of hypocritical acts by the RoC concerning their proclamations to the world that the T/Cs are citizens of the RoC and yet the officials go out of their way to alienate their fellow compatriots.