Well, we do on occasions in the league. I’d bet that if we end up in the super 8 with them we could but would it matter if we met them again in the final? I don’t think so.

I really don’t think mayo are bothered this time of the year, two saunters through the backdoor has proven to them that even if they are lousy in the qualifiers they will make croke Park and the QF and then they can get going. That overconfidence may take them out (although I don’t think they will lose to Galway in may) if they end up in that scenario again. If they get to the super eights they will get to the final I believe unless it’s us in the semi.

Mayo blog before the Galway match was all “time to stand up”which is a constant refrain from them. Stand up to Galway. Stand up to Kerry. Stand up to Dublin. Then after meeting all those teams it’s how they were beaten up. The intercounty scene is small, mayo will be up against mostly division 1 opposition again this year and they have all had their fill of the sneaky sly stuff some of their players do every match and react accordingly.

I guess last week and this weeks refs are on the list too. I can see complaints already about the super eight venues.

I write them off. I did so on here 2 years ago and they have even less chance now. "at your peril " they haven’t won an A.I in 57 years, so at your peril is probably not the right language to use. It’s more like back them to win the Connacht championship or league or FBD or even at this stage to beat Galway at your booking peril for that matter.

Actually being essentially the same team I think is what keeps them going - the fear that this year is the last year is a massive motivation, and I believe them when they say that they think they will win Sam and should have already. The problem is that unlike ourselves I feel that mayo will very quickly be like Kerry 1987 and that when this team fades it’ll be mercilessly fast and they’ll be goosed for years.

It seems the cb have belatedly realised and are starting to shore up at underage but they seem to have a long haul ahead there.

I write them off. I did so on here 2 years ago and they have even less chance now. "at your peril " they haven’t won an A.I in 57 years, so at your peril is probably not the right language to use. It’s more like back them to win the Connacht championship or league or FBD or even at this stage to beat Galway at your booking peril for that matter.

Year on year since 2006 theyve been closer, along with 96, than at any time in the last, actually 67 years. Last year was very much arguably their best performance in a final in that 67 years. So they have shown continuous improvement in that regard. Only the best team of the last 30 years has beaten them, and only by a point, twice after a replay

If your judging teams and rating them by the margin by which they win and lose a game, it paints a picture but not necessarily the correct one. Dubs beat mayo by a point so there’s only a point in the difference between the 2 teams. mayo have proven unable to beat Galway in same competition surely that should make Galway equal to dubs or at least 2nd to them. But it doesn’t and rightly so, why ?, because while on a particular day due to many factors you will get a particular result it’s consistency over a period that you look to when rating. mayo have stumbled and fallen to a final but just because they managed to get their does not by default make them 2nd best.

It’s about the performance according to what’s needed when it really matters. This is a very well-known measurement in the world of knockout GAA. If you’re looking for a consistent evidence of ability/performance to prove the point you’re arguing against, in 7 championship games between the teams since 2012 the total score is Dublin ahead by 7. If you leave out the 2015 replay the teams are level. That’s level over 6 semifinals and finals. If that’s not evidence enough then what is?