Collins was consistantly in the wrong place at the wrong time. I can not belive how far he has regressed in a year. I blame Schottenhiemer. Positioning is critical in the NFL and a safety that is a meer 3 steps out of position is toast.

I would expect at least 350 yards of passing for anyone that throws 62 times.

Regardless, can anyone comment on how our pass D was?

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AADP - It was actually okay. See, this is another reason why stats don't mean anything. 400+ yards but most of the yards were worthless yards when the game was pretty much over. We were playing D super conservatively, not giving up the big one and letting them eat up the clock with stupid small yard passes. As it turned out, we won the game and we played it right. Good job Packers! ackbeer:

The pass rush continues to be poor. Woodson and Harris did a good job on the outside, but Dendy got exploited a bit, and both of our safeties continue to be horrible in coverage. Luckily, the Packers benefitted from several drops by the Miami receivers (one of which bounced directly into Nick Barnett's hands), and some poor throws by Harrington (one of which was tipped into Woodson's hands), who has a real knack for playing just good enough to lose.

Collins was consistantly in the wrong place at the wrong time. I can not belive how far he has regressed in a year. I blame Schottenhiemer. Positioning is critical in the NFL and a safety that is a meer 3 steps out of position is toast.

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I blame Manuel. That guy has been horrible in pass coverage, which leaves Collins to try to mop things up. Collins hasn't played great, but he got much better support from Roman last year. Manuel seems to bite on every play fake and play more like a LB than a safety.

That being said, we need to keep doing the strip drills for defense! It had a huge affect on several passes yesterday. Should help us get turnovers as the season goes on.

Lots of things to fix, but at least we're building some chemistry as a team. Keep coming together and keep improving. Stop giving up the big plays!

I was going to post this as well. It was a good win, but the 400+ yards of passing that we gave up is still disturbing.

I think tis was Woodson's best game even without his INT. Harris looked good. Both safeties were great against the run and NON-EXISTENT againt the deep ball. It's a damn good thing Harrington kept over throwing the deep ball.

I will agree that winning the turnover battle is extremely important and will add the opposing QB's rating as well.

Harrington had a a QB rating of 62.

You win the turnover battle and the keep the opposing QB in the 60's and you will win most of the time.

The QB rating gives a read of the kind of pressure he is getting during a game. Much focus has been laid on our DB's but we have not set the world on fire in QB pressures in the games we lost.

Early in the year we got our share of sacks but in between the pressure was inconsistant and resulted in big plays against us. A not-so-good defensive backfield can look pretty stout when their line is getting good pressure. Your backfield could, on the other hand, be very good but if the line isn't helping they are not going to look to great back there.

With the rules bent to benefit the WR after 5 yards it is absolutely necessary to balance this with pressure on the QB.

I'll take giving up over 400 yards every time if it includes over 60 throws and a QB rating in the low 60's. I mean every time.

With that rating and winning the turnover battle a team will win 9 out of 10 times.

That many throws means you have forced your opponent out of their game plan and have made them one-dimensional.

A QB rating that low means you have gotten pressure on the QB and good coverage and usually means you've won the turnover battle.

I agree that the D isn't playing well as far as giving up yards, but you can't talk about turnovers as if they're not part of good defence. There are many D's that aren't all that good but they force turnovers which is just as good. Look at the Bengals last year, they were nothing special but took the ball away every other series. Obviously I'd like them to play better but if they're gonna get 3 int's a game it will be hard to hate on them