Sancho does not discuss anything, but writes the rules that always repeat "forbidden", "you must or else the page you create will be deleted", "do not", "never" and so on. We change it to "it is recommended", "it is better", "page is going to be edited" and so on.

User Sancho doesn't reply neither in its personal discussion page, nor in the the article's talk and ignores all messages.

What shall we do in this case?

Just what you did do: bring the matter to the attention of a sysop (administrator). Edit warring is a serious offense, and may lead to blocks. I will be posting a lecture on Sancho's Talk page. Meanwhile, please follow one simple rule: do not undo anyone's edits but your own, without discussing the matter on the associated Talk page. --TJ (Talk | Contribs) 22:01, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Keyboard shortcuts, special characters

Hi TJ, While tripping through the FAQs in search of anyplace I can help, I have found your useful answer (FAQ-Writer-Formatting Text) about how to insert special characters using macros to create keyboard shortcuts. As an alternative, I thought of adding the Windows shortcuts such as I use in Word at work to create a pounds sterling sign (i.e. Alt+0163), but I can't get those combinations to work in Writer. I'm on my laptop at home and am not sure if the Alt-key alternative just does not work in OpenOffice, or if the phenomenon is due to my using a laptop keyboard without the extra number keypad. In the hopes that no question is a dumb question... I ask... do the Alt-key combinations for special characters work in OOo?

Hi, Lisa, Yes; with my keyboard (with full numeric keypad) they work fine. I use Alt+0151 for em-dash regularly. There may be a num-lock or Fn special key that you need to simulate the numeric keypad; check your laptop's documentation. --TJ (Talk | Contribs) 16:34, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Re: Editing templates

Sorry about the inconvenience. I rarely edit templates on Wikis, being mindful that such edits can have far-reaching effects. FYI, I didn't notice any slowdown: This Wiki has far fewer articles and users than the English Wikipedia. — User8192T@ 17:46, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

It seems inappropriate to have categorized users pages, so I ask whether they should be uncategorizaded or moved to the main domain? (I'm sorry but I do not quite understand the English Language, so I use a translator). Adailton 13:43, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

English: "de-categorized" (= "have the category reference removed") is not a valid English word, either, but it is readily understandable.

Appropriateness: Since the users themselves added their pages to the category, I'm in favor of leaving them there. If somebody associated with marketing complains, we can make changes then. --TJ (Talk | Contribs) 02:24, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Candidates for speedy deletion

Removed most of the pure spam. Remaining candidates are mostly technical, and can be removed more slowly.

Thanks for the good work. If you are an Apache committer (or at least have an iCLA on file), I will enable you as a sysop ("Administrator group"). That would let you delete directly, and block spammers as well (very carefully!). --TJ (Talk | Contribs) 14:32, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

Hi TJ

I made a change in {{delete}} in order to include a justification for the deletion. Please see if it was good.

File Categories: AFAIK, the files should be categorized according to the pages that link to them (plus descriptive categories, like "Icon"). This could be a non-trivial task; if a file is linked from pages in different categories, it may be desirable to climb the category tree to find the intersection, and categorize the file there.

Your help is much appreciated. I know much of templates, but only a little about categories. --TJ (Talk | Contribs) 15:52, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

I think the categorization according to the pages that use is practical, but we can also categorize your files by grouping them by theme (icons, applications, screens, menu items, examples, etc.), without excluding one another. There are also PDF documents, which could be a category, but I will not create them if you think it should be done well. Adailton 21:07, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

New volunteer

Hello. I recently started to built some pages for brazilian community start to work and I'd like to contribute in the wiki maintenance also. I've created Category:Outdated to mark all old content pages that need to be revised. I have a lot of suggestions to offer in order to make this wiki more affordable, but I am affraid to make changes without people's agreement. I do not wish to upset anyone so, please, if there is a wiki coordinator/administrator (or something like that), let me know. I don't wish to work against but with you. =) . Thanks. signed by sysop 2012-05-17T09:12:32 PauloLima

Hi, Paolo!

I'm replying here, just to keep the whole conversation in one place. You can put a Watch on my Talk page if you like, or I'll put a note on yours. I see that you have met Adailton, who is a big help around here, chasing spammers. Whatever help you care to give is very welcome.

Hi TJ. This place is fine.

Like most everything at Apache, there is no "official" hierarchy on this wiki. The only sense in which I'm "it" is that I'm doing the work. I do have both sysop and bureaucrat privileges, and I will promote any committer to sysop who asks. My personal expertise runs to "expert user": knowledgeable on wiki markup, templates, etc. If you have plans to improve the user experience, go for it; I'll be glad to help you do it the easy way, if you like.

Ok. I've been working with Mediawiki software intensively for the last 2 years. I've created/developed many of the pages in LibO PT_BR wiki, and I was responsible to develop the document translation workflow to PT-BR. That was a great learning. Now I wish to contribute here. These days, I am running a document management project for the company I work,using Mediawiki software, for for the last year, using its semantic features. And this was a great learning for me too. So, I proposed to use my experience in this area to help building an intelligent ontology that could ease the access tothe information in the wiki. But... In order to do that, it would be necessary to upgrade Mediawiki at least to 1.7.4 (1.9 would be better) and install some semantic extensions (maybe creating some new user's groups, if necessary). Can you help me on that? This should not impact the actual wiki's access/availbility, but can make available features for me to work on some sort of "snapshot". =)

Which reminds me: are you deliberately using the "preformatted text" option (starting your line with a space character), to create indentation? A colon (:) works better, because it wraps better. Use more colons for more levels of indentation (think, "tabs"). By convention, if you reply here, you would start your lines with two colons, I would reply with three, ...

Yes. I'm using that. It's a matter of preferences. For me it looks better, but I have no objections in using identation =)

I've created a category PT-BR for brazilian community begin to work. It was necessary, but, as Adailton pointed, maybe we could join PT-BR and PT sections, if it works better. I'm helping Kevin on UX team and looking for pages that must be updated/deleted. There are many outdated information here and it's necessary to classify them (that's why I've created a Category:Outdated). In the next days I will navigate through the wiki to find and categorize those pages. After that, we will have a picture of what/where/who/when we need to do. If you and Adailton agree with that, of course. What do you think?

Otherwise, it has a nasty tendency to run right over the right-hand border, and just keep going. I find that both ugly and a nuisance, having to adjust the horizontal slider, and I had to do that a lot on your talk page. This may be browser- and skin-dependent. But, to more important matters.

Well, I have placed line breakers "<br />" in my replies, because I am aware of this issue. I don't know why you had this problem in you browser, maybe your screen resolution is too low. For me, my replies are been displayed with short lines and no horizontal slider both in Internet Explorer (Windows 98 in a virtual machine), Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox (Ubuntu 11.10). But it doesn't matter, I can use identation. No problem.

For upgrading MW and installing new extensions, you need a site-maintenance person, and that's not me. The only one I know of with the project is Raphael Bircher; otherwise, we depend on Infra. The problem is that none of those folks have any real expertise with MW or php, and neither do I. If you have command-line expertise, by all means volunteer on the Infra ML, and ask for access. Otherwise, I suppose we can try writing JIRA tickets. I am certainly in favor of an upgrade; there are problems with the <math> syntax that probably can only be fixed that way, and some other adjustments that should be made.

Yes, I know how to upgrade and install extensions to Mediawiki. But, I would had to get ssh access to the server and RWX rights to Mediawiki directory. A database backup would be necessary (and I should have access to it in this case, also). If you have admin rights to the wiki, so you can perform admin tasks for me, when it's necessary.

For your other plans, I suggest you pick out some segment for a pilot program, and work the bugs out; there are thousands of pages needing attention. But don't let this tired old man dampen your enthusiasm! --TJ (Talk | Contribs) 01:35, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Well TJ, I am not exactly a kid anymore for a long, long time. At least in my body. In my soul I feel like a kid yet =)

I am planning to use PT-BR section for my tests. This will not affect any feature of actual wiki. Pages/Templates/Forms/Properties can be created trasparently and released to production when ready. The only impact will be in the categories structure. I shall have to do some modifications, but I won't do that without notice. Before that, I will show you a new ontology (categories/properties structure), put it into discussion, so we can find the best way to improve the wiki, right?

P.s.: Do I assume correctly that you mean MW versions 1.17.x and 1.19.x ?