Rossi Warns about Fraud in Online Fundraiser

Andrea Rossi has posted the following on the Journal of Nuclear Physics, regarding a fundraising campaign for an ‘E-Cat Energy Catalyzer’ on the crowdfunding site Indiegogo, and is wanting his statement distributed as widely as possible.

Andrea Rossi
February 21st, 2015 at 10:29 AM
IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO ALL OUR READERS:
ATTENTION: ANOTHER FRAUDOLENT SALE OF E-CATS HAS BEEN PUT ON THE INTERNET.
THE BOGUS WEBSITE IS:

THEY PROPOSE THE SALE OF E-CATS AND ASK MONEY TO PRE-BUY THEM IN ADVANCE.
THIS IS A TOTAL FRAUD.
WE DO NOT KNOW THEM, WE NEVER HEARD OF THEM BEFORE ( I HAVE BEEN INFORMED RIGHT NOW OF THIS FRAUD), THEY HAVE NO AGREEMENT WHATSOEVER WITH US, WE ARE NOT SELLING DOMESTIC ECATS, THE PHOTOGRAPHIES PUBLISHED IN THIS FRAUDOLENT SITE ARE TOTALLY INVENTED AND NEVER PRODUCED BY US. WE WILL NEVER SELL THEM ANY OF OUR PRODUCTS, THEREFORE IF YOU GIVE THEM MONEY TO BUY OUR PRODUCTS YOUR MONEY WILL BE TOTALLY LOST FROM YOU.
IN GENERAL, DO NOT GIVE MONEY TO ANYBODY THAT SAYS THAT HE CAN SELL YOU OUR PRODUCTS BEFORE INFORMING US WHO HE IS: WE WILL IMMEDIATELY INFORM YOU ABOUT THE REALITY. ANYBODY ASKS YOU MONEY IN ADVANCE TO BUY A DOMESTIC E-CAT IS A FRAUDSTER: WE DO NOT ASK MONEY IN ADVANCE TO MAKE A PRE-ORDER AND WE DO NOT SELL DOMESTIC E-CATS.
IN CASE OF INDUSTRIAL PLANTS, ALWAYS ASK US CONFIRMATION THAT THE PERSON THAT IS OFFERING YOU ANYTHING IS AN AUTHORIZED LICENSEE.
YOU CAN PUT YOUR QUESTIONS TO[email protected]
I BEG ALL THE BLOGGERS THAT TALK OF OUR WORK TO REPRODUCE THIS MESSAGE, TO HELP TO AVOID THAT HONEST PERSONS GET THEIR MONEY STOLEN FROM THESE FRAUDSTERS.
WARM REGARDS
DR ANDREA ROSSI, LEONARDO CORPORATION (CEO)

Yes, that was quite fast.
I got this answer from Indiegogo after my alert:
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Hi Mats,

Thank you for checking in about this campaign. At this time, the
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friendlyprogrammer

Ditto.. Came here to post same. I’ll add the name Derek from what you posted.

Derek, Feb 23, 17:05:

Hi Friendlyprogrammer,

Thank
you for checking in about this campaign. At this time, the campaign,
‘E-Cat Energy Catalyzer’, is under review to ensure that it adheres to
………………………. process. Thank you again for taking the time
to get in touch with us and for helping to keep Indiegogo a safe and
secure platform.

Regards,

Derek

Trust and Safety

Indiegogo

US_Citizen71

It appears that the campaign has been removed.

http://www.animpossibleinvention.com/ Mats Lewan

Most certainly a scam.
The video is by Ecat.com, a legit site which is run by British-Swedish Hydrofusion and supported by Rossi.
Roland Pettersson has nothing to do with this campaign.
I have alerted Pettersson, Hydrofusion and Indiegogo.
Strange that Indiegogo let this go through.

http://www.lenrnews.eu/lenr-summary-for-policy-makers/ AlainCo

I reported a problem, and I imagine that many of you did too?

fritz194

Very curious….
In the end its a favour for Rossi to get more publicity.
I don´t accuse Rossi to be involved – but its at least thinkable that sort of “Believer” are doing that for “him” – if he wants or not.
Who should donate something – to obviously stolen pics, technology….
Or who should be so stupid to think – its possible to get along with that,.
Sort of special guerilla marketing.

Anon2012_2014

I don’t see a link on “Rossi’s” “new website” (i.e. “andrea-rossi.com”) going back to “ecat.com”. Note that ecat dot com claims to be the official website of the “Energy Catalyzer” and that “andrea-rossi dot com” claims to be the official website of Rossi.

Both look kind of weak to me, and other than the new pictures of the ECAT 1MW on andrea-rossi dot com, I am suspecting that these are both unauthorized third party websites. JONP is the only thing that Rossi actually put up. The andrea-rossi dot com site is written in the third person and could be a third party trying to get in on the new business.

Anon2012_2014

1) Isn’t ECAT trademarked?

2) An Indigogo/Gofundme/Kickstarter campaign is appropriate for any garage inventor or would be entrepreneur who wants to make an LENR implementation independently of Rossi. However, it is “Let the contributor beware”, i.e. contribute what you want to a particular unknown’s pie in the sky startup, but expect failure = no money or product back. It’s the contributors money — they can spend it like they want.

http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/ barty

They claim to have achived a replication and want to market it.

But the information they gave looks very naive and as they just read a few articles here at e-cat world.

At least the claim that nickle + hydrogen + SECRET = fusing to copper.
Wasn’t this a mis-interpretation in the very early fuel analysis in january/february 2011 caused by particles of the copper-reactor-wall?

friendlyprogrammer

Ditto

Sanjeev

He does not claim to be the owner of E-Cat. He used the name as “generic”.
Its a common practice to use 3d renders/drawings of products for fund raisers, but he should have made everything clear there and should have made his own video/pictures etc. If its a fraud, its very amateur.

ecatworld

When someone uses computer graphics as an illustration for a supposedly working product, I tend to get a bit suspicious.

Sanjeev

Not only that, he simply lifted the pictures from the internet. So doubly suspicious, and also ridiculous, because it would make it very easy for any contributor to find out that he is not genuine. But if he really has something, I’d like to see it.

EEStorFanFibb

as I asked above, isn’t http://www.ecat.com a legitimate site for a legitimate Rossi backed enterprise? – because the photos you called “computer graphics” came from there.

ecatworld

Ecat.com is the site of Hydro Fusion, an early licensee of the E-Cat. Those graphics have been around for years now, and they have just been grabbed by this indiegogo campaigner. If they had anything real, I would have thought they would have shown their own work.

EEStorFanFibb

frank do you suppose hydro 1 still has a license (why have a website up still otherwise?) or did ih buy it back?

ecatworld

I haven’t heard that they have sold back their license, but I am really not sure about their current status. Andrea Rossi has said complementary statements about them on the JONP in the past, so perhaps they are still involved.

EEStorFanFibb

Thanks.

Omega Z

Seems I recall Rossi indicating that Hydro Fusion is still involved.
Shortly after IH came on the scene that Hydro Fusion was gathering additional funds. Could be that they are part of the IH consortium. Of 14 entities, we only know publicly of JT Vaughn & Tom Darden.

EEStorFanFibb

Also, I don’t get why Rossi says this: “THE PHOTOGRAPHIES PUBLISHED IN THIS FRAUDOLENT SITE ARE TOTALLY INVENTED AND NEVER PRODUCED BY US.”

Whatever ECAT dot com is, it appeared non-professional from the start in 2011. Before we knew Rossi better, they claimed to represent Rossi. My recollection is that is was bought/run by a Swedish outfit (Hydro-Fusion?), and that they were re-marketing the Rossi/Defkalion country license multi-level marketing scheme taking “pre-orders”. Whoever this “Nick” or “Nikata Zhalov” is, I doubt very much he is connected even to ECAT dot com. Looks like a photoshop/CAD rendered drawing of a box that doesn’t exist.

EEStorFanFibb

so bizarre. the guy in the video was clearly at a Rossi event, speaks strangely about the high cost of nickel but H2 is cheaply made from water…. footage of an old style 1MW plant. just weird.

Sanjeev

The man in the video is Ronald Pettersson, one of the testers of Lugano test. No connection with the fund raiser I guess. He just put a video from youtube there.
The 3d renders of “Home E-Cat” are from pesn, very old.

That competition always seemed to be a bit silly to me–designing a box without knowing exactly what’s going into it.

Sanjeev

I think Rossi should write directly to the Indiegogo staff, they will take it down and refund the $90 contributed so far. Its an email verified user so legal action can be taken. (There is a “Let us know” link on the right).

It made me curious actually because the guy is a Russian who claims to have replicated the E-Cat (COP 4.35). If he has actually done so, then its unfortunate that he used the name E-Cat and its renders on the campaign page.