Ahh. Well this sure explains why the birth rate in Asia is so low. We all know they are having a hard time producing children. Must because they're all flaming faggots._________________She put a hole through my kevlar soul

Tue 15 May, 2007 8:39 am

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People in Asia use soy primarily as a condiment, small pieces in soup etc. They don't feed their babies on soy milk, and they don't chomp on big chunks of it as a snack. The average asian probably eats 3% the amount of soy as your average (ignorant) American vegan.

Soy is often used as an alternative to hormone replacement therapy. If people want to give massive doses of something like that to their little baby boys, they should be charged with child abuse._________________Love, love, love.

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Tue 15 May, 2007 10:43 am

wandererOfficial Mainah

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That's probably true. Though it's still a staple in their diets (and becoming more and more a staple in many Americans diets as well).

There are pros and cons to soy and it certainly should be avoided in young children.

It's suggesting that eating soy is going to turn a straight man gay that's so silly._________________She put a hole through my kevlar soul

Tue 15 May, 2007 10:54 am

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The WorldNetDaily who put this foolish notion out there isn't a reliable source to start with, and the only scientific data on it is on mice, which hardly proves much .

It was posted by someone homophobic. IMO. _________________"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine

Tue 15 May, 2007 11:14 am

VizziniLobstah

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Whats silly is the idea that says gays are all born that way or they just choose to be gay. Dismissing possible environmental and dietary factors is just goofy, considering we know that certain foods like soy can dramatically effect hormone levels.

We should do some experimentation - I'll eat a half pound steak every night, you eat a half pound tofu every night, with your soy milk. We'll go to the topless doughnut shop in a month and objectively record our feelings and physical reaction to stimulis.

I think I could definately make many straight Men gay if I controlled everything they ate, gave hormones etc. Homosexuality is mostly the result of hormonal, biochemical, neurological factors._________________Love, love, love.

Tue 15 May, 2007 11:20 am

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Eating too much soy might give a man boobs, but it isn't going to change their sexual preference.

So what do you think causes a change in sexual preference? Little magic fairies?

A soy and hormone diet, some clockwork orange style brainwashing... you actually don't think I could change someones sexual preference? Please, that is kids play.

The pentagon was actually working on a "gay bomb" recently which supposedly caused uncontrollable homosexual urges in those that were targeted._________________Love, love, love.

Tue 15 May, 2007 2:04 pm

VizziniLobstah

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quote:Originally posted by wanderer:

Topless doughnut shop?

Yeah! No soy though - bad for tips._________________Love, love, love.

Tue 15 May, 2007 2:10 pm

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I don't think anyones sexual orientation "changes". People are either gay or straight. It's just a matter of an individual figuring it out. Some take longer than others. How else do you explain gay children from conservative, steak eating families? How do you explain gay animals that occur naturally in the wild?

Attraction isn't easily explained. It's influenced by culture to a degree, though it is mostly instinctual. If it weren't, species would rapidly become extinct.

Doughnuts ironically are good for developing man boobs as well._________________She put a hole through my kevlar soul

Tue 15 May, 2007 2:43 pm

VizziniLobstah

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quote:Originally posted by wanderer: I don't think anyones sexual orientation "changes". People are either gay or straight. It's just a matter of an individual figuring it out.

Nah, the only defintion is preference. If you prefer same sex for awhile you are gay for awhile. If you then decide you prefer opposite sex you are straight. If you say you're gay then you are gay because the only definition is current preference.

quote:Originally posted by wanderer:

How else do you explain gay children from conservative, steak eating families?

The instinct to reproduce is so strong that the urge remains even in circumstances without any chance of reproduction actually taking place - and it feels good.

Also see above._________________Love, love, love.

Tue 15 May, 2007 5:23 pm

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quote:Originally posted by Vizzini: Whats silly is the idea that says gays are all born that way or they just choose to be gay. Dismissing possible environmental and dietary factors is just goofy, considering we know that certain foods like soy can dramatically effect hormone levels.

We should do some experimentation - I'll eat a half pound steak every night, you eat a half pound tofu every night, with your soy milk. We'll go to the topless doughnut shop in a month and objectively record our feelings and physical reaction to stimulis.

I think I could definately make many straight Men gay if I controlled everything they ate, gave hormones etc. Homosexuality is mostly the result of hormonal, biochemical, neurological factors.

I hate milk and I've never, or will ever eat tofu, and just because something is true for rats doesn't mean the same holds true for humans.Sounds like you are trying to feed me the bull and I'm not biting. What you think you know and what can be scientifically proven are 2 different things.

Your experiment won't work for me because seeing a topless woman and eating a doughnut doesn't sound very stimulating.Call me old fashioned but I like the element of surprise over full disclosure._________________"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine

Tue 15 May, 2007 6:33 pm

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Folks become flaming queers when they touch someone who is already a flamer. It is contagous.

Let one cough on you, and soon your wrists go limp.

Tue 15 May, 2007 9:02 pm

VizziniLobstah

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quote:Originally posted by tumbleweed:

Your experiment won't work for me because seeing a topless woman... doesn't sound very stimulating.

how thophithticated of you_________________Love, love, love.

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Wed 16 May, 2007 9:00 am

VizziniLobstah

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quote:Originally posted by tumbleweed:

Sounds like you are trying to feed me the bull and I'm not biting. What you think you know and what can be scientifically proven are 2 different things.

I know that massive doses of hormones, hormone mimicking pollutants, hormones in drinking water etc. can effect behavior associated with hormone levels (DUH) and that sexuality/physical attraction is associated with hormone levels.

This is scientific fact. You'd really have to be some kind of narrow minded, agenda-driven bigot to say there is no chance that hormonal factors could influence sexual orientation.

Or... you'd have to be a gay person who doesn't want to consider the possibility that their "preference" is nothing more than a symptom of a simple hormone imbalance (that occurred at one time or another during development or currently)._________________Love, love, love.

Wed 16 May, 2007 9:23 am

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quote:Originally posted by Vizzini:

quote:Originally posted by tumbleweed:

Sounds like you are trying to feed me the bull and I'm not biting. What you think you know and what can be scientifically proven are 2 different things.

I know that massive doses of hormones, hormone mimicking pollutants, hormones in drinking water etc. can effect behavior associated with hormone levels (DUH) and that sexuality/physical attraction is associated with hormone levels.

This is scientific fact. You'd really have to be some kind of narrow minded, agenda-driven bigot to say there is no chance that hormonal factors could influence sexual orientation.

Or... you'd have to be a gay person who doesn't want to consider the possibility that their "preference" is nothing more than a symptom of a simple hormone imbalance (that occurred at one time or another during development or currently).

So far all I hear is it's possible, and nothing to show how probable this theory is. Post your scientific data then that shows that soy has a direct affect on humans sexual preference that involve case studies on humans._________________"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine

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