Now In Beta: Traktor Remix Decks + Midi Fighter 3D

DJ TechTools is excited to announce that the new firmware for the Midi Fighter 3D is now open for Beta testing. This unique hybrid HID/MIDI firmware allows for plug-and-play control of the Traktor 2.5 Remix Decks – an industry first. The firmware is absolutely free, and we’ve also got a new version of the Midi Fighter Utility that every Midi Fighter owner will be excited about.

REMIX DECK CONTROL

Traktor’s Remix Decks are limited to HID control via the F1 – meaning that you can’t easily map them out on your controller of choice. We’ve designed a special firmware for the Midi Fighter 3Ds that allow them to communicate with Traktor’s Remix Decks. Unlike most of the other projects out there, we’re communicating directly to the Remix Decks – not controlling the position of the mouse or another hack around method. This is real plug and play control with totally unique customizability. Ean gives us a simple walkthrough on how it works in the following video:

While you can adjust the functionality of each button in “HID Controls” in the MF Utility, by default, the Midi Fighter 3D has the following controls:

Bank Buttons(from left to right): Shift, Reverse, Quantize, Sync

Left Side Switches (from top to bottom): Page Up in current deck, Page Down in current deck, Bank Stop (hold it down and push a bank button, it stops that column of clips)

Right Side Switches(from top to bottom): Shift Focus To Previous Deck, Shift Focus To Next Deck, HID Toggle (see below)

Arcade Buttons: trigger the corresponding clip in the Remix Deck, and change colors/brightness based on actual clip color and if they are in a playing state or not.

One of the most interesting features that we’ve build into this firmware is the ability to turn off HID Mode on the fly and instead send MIDI – allowing you to quickly combine Remix Deck control with any other mappings for the 3D, like Flashflooder’s popular MF3D DeckGratMotion mapping.

Your Questions Answered Now:

Q: What about the Midi Fighter Classic and Pro models?A: We’ve already heard from a number of users on the forums who want Classic and Pro support. We are going to add limited Remix Deck support to those units in one month (give or take a few weeks) – but the lack of multi-color LEDs and paging systems means that the control will not be at the same level as we’ve managed to accomplish on the 3D.

Q: Can you make my (insert controller here) work the same way with the Remix Decks?A: Unfortunately, most controllers don’t have easily modifiable firmware – we wrote the firmware for the 3D, so it was a relatively simple process. We encourage you to check out this project on the DJTT forums aspiring to hack the Remix Decks for all controllers!

Q: Can I combine remix deck clip launching (HID) and custom mappings (MIDI)?A: Yes! This is the most powerful and unique part of the 3D integration. You can layer additional mappings on top of the remix deck clip launching for total personalized expression. No other controller on the market offers that ability.

MIDI FIGHTER UTILITY 2: REDESIGN

We’ve taken the Midi Fighter Utility and completely redesigned it for a much improved user experience. While functionally it’s very similar to the old utility, we’ve made the user interface much classier – something you’d be proud to show off to your friends.

NEW MIDI FIGHTER 3D MOTION SENSITIVITY

Finally, we’ve also added one important new feature to the Midi Fighter 3D, the ability to adjust the motion sensitivity on the controller. This has been one of the most requested items for the device since its launch, so we’re excited to wrap this new feature into this Beta launch.

The parameters you can adjust are found under the Motion section of the Midi Fighter Utility, as seen in the screenshot above.

Tilt Dead Zone: How many degrees of tilt before MIDI starts being sent
Tilt Range: The range that the MIDI CC is mapped across – in the example above, it takes 70 degrees of tilting to get the end of the range of the CC being sent.
Tilt Sensitivity: How responsive it is to the motion – if it should respond quickly or slowly to tilting.

We need your help making this project the best it can be! Visit this thread on the forums to share your feedback. A full PDF manual is also available in that thread.

this is nearly perfect, except i am having trouble stopping the fourth bank.

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Eugene

Hey so I have the firmware updated in the mf utility, the most recent mapping imported(using the big button on traktor) on both the utility and traktor. I have the in-out set on the 3d and all the buttons work perfectly to the arranged mapping but it doesn’t switch to the remix decks. I have samples loaded in each cell and the only thing that the buttons can trigger seem to be the effects. Everything works except for the switch to HID, regardless of the modifier(3)? recognizing it.

Eugene

Hey so I have the firmware updated in the mf utility, the most recent mapping imported(using the big button on traktor) on both the utility and traktor. I have the in-out set on the 3d and all the buttons work perfectly to the arranged mapping but it doesn’t switch to the remix decks. I have samples loaded in each cell and the only thing that the buttons can trigger seem to be the effects. The modulators on the side work, the effect switches work and the banks work, even the modifier(3) recognizes it when i press the “switch to HID” command but no dice.

Ok, I did what the new tool told me to do with the MF3D and now all that my MF3D do is a white Blinking light on the top right Corner. How can i get it to normal state again :-(

Snowtrixxx1301

F1 or MF3D. im super torn now. someone help!!!

RawB3at

pretty awesome…will there be a transfer for midifighter pro?

pinto

I have the same predicament. The way is see it:
If you want smooth, ableton like clip launching with the ability to smoothly bring clips in (With the fader, filter) get the f1
If you want to be able to manipulate those clips and make them something totally new, get the mf3d.
If the mf3d had the ability to effect volume of individual clips it would be a no brainer for me. I still feel like im leaning toward the mf3d though. So many creative possibilities.

pinto

I have the same predicament. The way is see it:
If you want smooth, ableton like clip launching with the ability to smoothly bring clips in (With the fader, filter) get the f1
If you want to be able to manipulate those clips and make them something totally new, get the mf3d.
If the mf3d had the ability to effect volume of individual clips it would be a no brainer for me. I still feel like im leaning toward the mf3d though. So many creative possibilities.

cab

very nice. love it. you guys really rock!

ean was talking in the vid about adding an effect on a remix deck loaded/playing clip by holding down the corresponding button.

this isn´t working in this version, right? at least i didn´t work for me.

i´m able to add effects to a whole remix decks loaded clips, but not for an individual clip within the remix decks though…

Scott

Can we get something going to keep those of us with classic midi fighters up to date on when we can access remix decks? The day it is available I want in… can’t believe Native Instruments is leaving this up to 3rd party programming, but it makes me realize how awesome DJTT is for going at the challenge.

am I the only one who thinks that the techtools solution is not any better than the NI one? come on, people complain that the remix decks only work with selected NI HW and now techtools read out the HID signal, emulate it and map it to just their controllers, not making their findings available to anyone or make their tool open source or whatever?

Ean was pissed that he couldn’t sell his new controller, and thats all he wants. Same old story…

Danomas

Yup, I’m pretty sure it’s just you.

Michael

”
not making their findings available to anyone or make their tool open source or whatever?”

“am I the only one who thinks that the techtools solution is not any better than the NI one?”
yes its a better solution,especially for us midi fighter owners.DJTT does not have the time and money to make it available for all mixers/controllers besides even if they did they could face a huge lawsuit so instead they made it only available with their products so quite whining about it,ni will eventually make the remix decks available for everyone.

So I have a 64-bit windows laptop and a 32-bit macbook. The dilemma is this:
I have traktor on my mac, but not on my windows computer, and I want to be able to use the remix decks on the mac, (makes sense I guess). The problem is that I can’t install the mac HID firmware to the midifighter from the windows pc because it’s only bundled with the windows firmware, and not the mac version. I would install the utility on my mac for a simpler process, but unfortunately that isn’t possible as it is only compatible with 64-bit systems which means I’ve nearly hit the end of the line in terms of ideas on how to fix this (I can’t borrow a 64-bit mac from a friend either).

So I have a 64-bit windows laptop and a 32-bit macbook. The dilemma is this:
I have traktor on my mac, but not on my windows computer, and I want to be able to use the remix decks on the mac, (makes sense I guess). The problem is that I can’t install the mac HID firmware to the midifighter from the windows pc because it’s only bundled with the windows firmware, and not the mac version. I would install the utility on my mac for a simpler process, but unfortunately that isn’t possible as it is only compatible with 64-bit systems which means I’ve nearly hit the end of the line in terms of ideas on how to fix this (I can’t borrow a 64-bit mac from a friend either).

Is there anything you guys can do to help?

Cheers,
nxtonic (Angus McMillan)

Hopethishelps

hit da forums…

Volker

nerdy way of doing this: install OS X 64 in a vmware/virtualbox machine, then upgrade the m3d firmware there…

Robertbartels

do some stuff for ableton compatability! like l.e.d. feedback and things like hitting a range of buttons to work as a low-res fader like on the launchpad!

Robertbartels

do some stuff for ableton compatability! like l.e.d. feedback and things like hitting a range of buttons to work as a low-res fader like on the launchpad!

Danomas

Oh, interesting. Using the HID firmware, the MF3D doesn’t light up in response to Traktor’s Beat Phase* output. Everything else seems to work (Seek Position outputs to LED correctly). Switching back to standard firmware restores the pretty Beat Phase lights.

*I have beat phase min/max mapped to 4 buttons. -0.5 to -0.25 to C3, -0.25 to 0 to C3#, 0 to 0.25 to D3, etc.

Danomas

Oh, interesting. Using the HID firmware, the MF3D doesn’t light up in response to Traktor’s Beat Phase* output. Everything else seems to work (Seek Position outputs to LED correctly). Switching back to standard firmware restores the pretty Beat Phase lights.

*I have beat phase min/max mapped to 4 buttons. -0.5 to -0.25 to C3, -0.25 to 0 to C3#, 0 to 0.25 to D3, etc.

Danomas

Sorry, meaning, I’m using HID firmware, and then switching it off with the side button.

Danomas

Sorry, meaning, I’m using HID firmware, and then switching it off with the side button.

Has NI responded yet? I am certain they, meaning management, will not be very happy.

Danomas

Meh. There’s surely some overlap, but people who bought the MF3D already will now be able to use remix decks, which means they’re less likely to use Ableton. And people who want to really use the remix decks with faders will continue to buy F1’s. I don’t think it’s a strictly binary question.

Danomas

Meh. There’s surely some overlap, but people who bought the MF3D already will now be able to use remix decks, which means they’re less likely to use Ableton. And people who want to really use the remix decks with faders will continue to buy F1’s. I don’t think it’s a strictly binary question.

Yes you can download this remix deck set and others at remixdeckset.com.

MIchael

How do u control the volume of each remix deck ? theres alot thats missing from this and prob cannot be implemented using the Midi Fighter 3D sure u can trigger the samples and use effects but u can do all that plus more with the f1 just my opinion the midi 3d to me looks a little complicated vs the f1 i like knobs and faders mabey if u were to combine the two that would be awesome i prob will buy one in the near future to go with my f1.

Stewe

You can set one modifier on some of side buttons to map motion for each slot volume and filter. It’s really flexible.