That clip is hilarious. Yes, getting my face mangled would hurt, but I'll take that over a solid punch any day.

PL

You know what the really funny thing is, Franco had a little lovers spat with that idiot from Senshido, you know, the dreaded 'SHREDDER' guy!!! :confused5

I can't recall how it went, but supposedly, Franco or the Senshido nut was accusing the other of stealing the shredder technique (the thing you guys see Franco doing in the clip). I guess they realized how stupid it made them seem, they both kissed and made up :kiss: and are now best friends again. :love8:

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Grinding some ones face with your hands and elbows may have some validity I guess... the head crank looks more direct thou..

It occurs to me the downside is getting your fingers in their mouth by accident..

it might have something to it thou?

As for the challenge thing? its just another attempt at making a challenge while placing numerous obstacles and caveats that discourage anyone taking up the challenge..

ie not a challenge at all.. any challenge that is DIFFICULT to take up is suspect.

conversely the throwdown format is EASY to take up as the stakes are LOW and you can fight at a level of your own choosing.

the current problem with the throwdown thing is it is a little to 'lite" and "warm blooded" and formats for cross style combat are difficult to arrange short of NHB..

But I suppose it is early days and progressively upping the the stakes and rules in a reasonably safe manner while learning how to create tai chi vs thai boxing (whatever) rules is the sensible way to go.

Franco's site and manner are disturbing for so many reasons but that has been covered rather well in this thread.

more to the point though, there is no way Franco would accept and no matter how much crap you spew through the internet its not going to make this fruit go away. He's making a **** load of cash off of this and a pawltry few detractors are of little consequence to him.

I mean really what the **** does he care about some bozo named "knightmare" from bullshido.com who wants to fight him? there's serriously nothing in it for him win or lose. even if he won it would just add small credence to what he's already set up. if anything you picking a fight with this douche adds to his "credibility".....

OK, guys, nobody seems to have read the entire thread in which Franco issued his "challenge." He specifically and openly stated that the whole purpose of the challenge was to make the point that no challenge match could ever prove the validity of his "art," because his art is made for t3h 57r337 and on the street, people hit you with kitchen sinks and their friends work you over with baseball bats.

He never put that challenge out as something he would actually DO. I'm not defending the guy, but saying he wouldn't honor the challenge as if you're convicting him of fraud is a little silly.

OK, guys, nobody seems to have read the entire thread in which Franco issued his "challenge." He specifically and openly stated that the whole purpose of the challenge was to make the point that no challenge match could ever prove the validity of his "art," because his art is made for t3h 57r337 and on the street, people hit you with kitchen sinks and their friends work you over with baseball bats.

He never put that challenge out as something he would actually DO. I'm not defending the guy, but saying he wouldn't honor the challenge as if you're convicting him of fraud is a little silly.

Thats funny, because the email I just got from him doesnt seem to say that.

Make the point that no challenge match could ever prove the validity of his art? What part did you read man? It seems he thinks the match could prove how great his art is, the challenge is littered with instances of this. Why would he go through all the trouble of typing that up just to say ''IT PROVES THAT NO CHALLENGE CAN EVER PROVE THE VALIDITY OF MY ART". Read it again, its on the front page. He seems pretty intent on making it seem like he wants the challenge to happen to prove how great CFA is, especially when he requires 10 grand for it.