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Not offended at all. Maybe the skeptic faction is getting just a little desperate with what they are being presented with at the moment?

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Frankly, the only desperation I have is getting something that can actually can be discussed and/or hasn't been discussed into the ground already. I would really like to see something new that actually had some substance to it, maybe even just the slightest hint that it could be ET.

Well, maybe desperate is not the right word

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Frankly, the only desperation I have is getting something that can actually can be discussed and/or hasn't been discussed into the ground already. I would really like to see something new that actually had some substance to it, maybe even just the slightest hint that it could be ET.

Well, maybe desperate is not the right word

Cheers,

Badeskov

Try explaining the Crete picture. That would be a good start. Do you think it's a VW? Apparently there are skeptics there that think it is.

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Try explaining the Crete picture. That would be a good start. Do you think it's a VW? Apparently there are skeptics there that think it is.

There is no explanation to it. We know neither the size nor the distance. And we have no means of getting those. I am guessing a small bug or a piece of small something that flew fairly close past the lens. Therefore, there is very little to get out of this image in my honest opinion.

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No detail to suggest it's a bug. The first shot looks very much as if the object was on the sky not in front of the lens.

This is a quintessential example of how the ETH works. You take something 'fuzzy' and unexplainable (note that unexplainable and mysterious are not necessarily synonymous) and present it as some sort of evidence that there are 'mysterious' events occurring around us all the time, all the while attempting to steer the debate towards an otherworldly explanation, for 'what else could it be?'. The leaps of logic and logical fallacies aside, it is intellectually dishonest at the very least.

Alien spacecraft or bug or something else entirely, there is no way of determining what that speck in the photos actually is. All that can be done is speculate on it's nature using logic, reason, critical thought and what few facts are available. Even that methodology can't give you a definitive answer in this case though. That leaves probability as the primary avenue of 'research' and unfortunately alien spacecraft are less probable than anything from Earth just by their very nature.

I will bet money that it isn't a flying elephant though, in case anyone was thinking that it might be.

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There is no explanation to it. We know neither the size nor the distance. And we have no means of getting those. I am guessing a small bug or a piece of small something that flew fairly close past the lens. Therefore, there is very little to get out of this image in my honest opinion.

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A shiny silver bug that reflects the light? That's a new one. Come on Mr B you can't be serious.

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I'll see if I can find one. In the lab right now, so I don't have much time for extensive searches, but I'll definitely take a look around

I really do think that Zoser's picture looks like something more distant than a big on the lens, and the same is true for the picture in Crete. These do look like more distant objects in reference to other points.

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