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I grew up with the conventional wisdom believing that the Israelis were the "white hats" and that the Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims were the "black hats." After 9/11, I wanted to know more about the conflict in the ME. I came to the realization that the narrative was totally one-sided.
I largely credit many outstanding Jewish voices (my close friend Bernie the Attorney for one) for opening my eyes. I see on a daily basis the efforts by Zionists and their stooges to dismiss truth-tellers in the most reprehensible manner, up to and including threats of violence. Truth needs no army of thugs to establish it; only lies need enforcers.

What was really vile about the program was the unanimity of the panel's apologetics of Netanyahu's (and Israel's) action. Maher opined that it was not racist to warn of the Arab 'threat' in their midst as a prudent caution.

He said it's not like the US is/was surrounded by blacks. What he missed (quite obviously) was the racism of South African whites or European invaders surrounded by the indigenous inhabitants of the North and South American continents. These were colonizers who put themselves smack dab in the middle of the danger for which they now wanted sympathy.

*This* is the perfect example of the pervasive and incessant propaganda of the MSM that cannot bring itself (by design) to stray from the official narrative of 'good' Israel encircled by 'evil' brown people of a primitive faith and a penchant for violence (if that isn't the '180 Rule' I don't know what is).

You want to have a so-called 'debate' of Middle East issues, at least have some representatives of the peoples being affects and not just the goddamned Hasbara of the people (and their enablers) bleeding us dry to pay for their murder and oppression.

You want to help make the world a safer place? Start treating people with the respect due them and 'dare' to give them a voice in their own future. You know, everything that Israel does *not* do with the people it brutalizes.

[TRANSLATION] "You keep giving us money, we keep accepting it, we use that same money to bribe the US into keeping the money flowing and always saying nice things about us while we do whatever we want - WHATEVER WE WANT."

-- ISRAEL apologizes for the lies discovered inherent throughout its pernicious Hasbara! --

"So sorry we were caught on this lie to the point that we had to fess up. We will try to make sure it never happens again (i.e. being caught in a lie)."

PLEASE NOTE: Proof of previous and ongoing lies does not allow you to dismiss our others lies, as that would weaken our credibility and hamper our attempts at promoting even more blatant and outrageous lies. Also note, flipping what we say to actually ascertain the truth is decidedly not allowed. Know that we are trying to criminalize this as rapidly and uniformly possible for your 'safety.' We appreciate your total compliance whether voluntarily through use of propaganda saturation, or force, through any number of methods of coercion, whether by psychological warfare, bribing/blackmailing your leadership, smearing of reputations and associations, kidnapping, torture, murder, assassinations (whether outright or covertly), etc. ad infinitum (not that it makes a whiff of difference to us *how* we maintain control - in time you'll see that 'it's all good' - either on your own, or through our generous application of re-education camp 'learning' techniques. Penalty for failure to grasp these 'unarguable' precepts will be severe. Know that we are watching you at all times. Know also that lack of proof of crimes will in no way be considered lack of proof of your undeniable crimes.)

Bearing witness means we remember… but memory is not enough.
Bearing witness means giving testimony… but statements are not enough.
Bearing witness means learning from history… but knowledge is not enough.
Bearing witness must also mean acting against evil.”

I am so bloody sick of the claim that the slaughter of innocent people by bringing down the full force of modern weaponry from every possible direction to mangle their flesh in the most horrific and violent ways is not monstrous because [we have a good reason].

I am so bloody sick of the claim that the slaughter of innocent people by bringing down the full force of modern weaponry from every possible direction to mangle their flesh in the most horrific and violent ways is not monstrous because [we have a good reason].

I am truly so very sorry you, your families, your neighbors, and your country suffer so as a brutal slaughter is waged across your land. I have tried to remain informed and active politically so that I could do whatever I can to help prevent my country from inflicting further such tragedies on others. As you might imagine, sometimes I too feel very helpless in this regard. You all have done much to remind me that sometimes courage can be as simple a thing as to just keep moving forward. And for that, you have my sincere respect, admiration, and gratitude.

Your suggestion was excellent. I found a couple of good ones and tweaked them enough to personalize them. They are very happy with the result. It is a good reminder to me that it is hard for people to feel comfortable in their understanding of the nuances of another language. Felt good to help. They were in fact doing all the heavy lifting.

I have a friend on Facebook who lives in the UK. He (or she as I cannot always tell with names I am unfamiliar with - I promise I will ask at some point) has asked for my help writing a letter to both the local politicians who support Israeli actions against the people of Gaza and local merchants who carry goods from illegal settlements. They have seen my comments on FB and have thanked me for my support of Palestinians and the victims in Gaza. It is clear that English is their second language and thought my help would make for a more compelling letter.

Could anybody direct me to a template or a petition or a generic appeal that might fight the bill in each of these instances? When someone looks to you as supposedly knowledgeable on an issue, it still starts with knowing where to look for information and assistance. People with compassion and integrity are the same types that helped me in my understanding of the issue and the importance of speaking out.

I will be sure to invite them to the MW community for guidance and support. I am touched how moved people are at feeling they are not alone in this quest. As those who have read my profile here, years ago I was one who would dismiss condemnations of Israel's actions as the sour grapes of violent 'militants.'

I have a friend on Facebook who lives in the UK. He (or she as I cannot always tell with names I am unfamiliar with - I promise I will ask at some point) has asked for my help writing a letter to both the local politicians who support Israeli actions against the people of Gaza and local merchants who carry goods from illegal settlements. They have seen my comments on FB and have thanked me for my support of Palestinians and the victims in Gaza. It is clear that English is their second language and thought my help would make for a more compelling letter.

Could anybody direct me to a template or a petition or a generic appeal that might fight the bill in each of these instances? When someone looks to you as supposedly knowledgeable on an issue, it still starts with knowing where to look for information and assistance. People with compassion and integrity are the same types that helped me in my understanding of the issue and the importance of speaking out.

I will be sure to invite them to the MW community for guidance and support. I am touched how moved people are at feeling they are not alone in this quest. As those who have read my profile here, years ago I was one who would dismiss condemnations of Israel's actions as the sour grapes of violent 'militants.'

I am truly so very sorry you, your families, your neighbors, and your country suffer so as a brutal slaughter is waged across your land. I have tried to remain informed and active politically so that I could do whatever I can to help prevent my country from inflicting further such tragedies on others. As you might imagine, sometimes I too feel very helpless in this regard. You all have done much to remind me that sometimes courage can be as simple a thing as to just keep moving forward. And for that, you have my sincere respect, admiration, and gratitude. Please forgive us for not doing more to protect you.

To the dead, there is nothing I can say to lessen the pain. You are missed.

No fairness, justice, or recognized nationality was ever afforded to the Palestinians. The whole world just turned the other way and mostly ignored their plight. This lack of humaneness, fostered extreme violence in return, is the genesis of the current suicidal acts. The reciprical violence returned by the Palestinians convinced a complicit press that all were terrorists and furthered the David against the Islamic hoards meme.

Team Spirit prevented development of any compassionate meme within the Jewish or western polity. That same Team Spirit corrupted American politics, purchasing the loyalty of most American decision makers and convincing them to turn the other way from viewing the growing desperation of the Palestinians.

I spoke to a member of the Visual History Project and asked why the Nakba wasn't included. He said that the Nakba was not genocide because the Palestinians were not wiped out. I replied that by that definition, neither were the Jews.

I share Ms. Bashi's empathy. It is important for people to work together to look after those who are wronged and neglected. I am truly sorry for what my country did/is doing to her country, and to the people of Palestine.

The trick of declaring war against the armed resistance and then attacking the resisters’ unarmed kin as well as the sur­rounding population with the most gruesome products of Death-Science — this trick is not new. American Pioneers were pioneers in this too; they made it standard practice to declare war on indigenous warriors and then to murder and burn villages with only women and children in them. This is already modern war, what we know as war against civilian populations; it has also been called, more candidly, mass murder or genocide.

Maybe I shouldn’t be surprised that the perpetrators of a Pogrom portray themselves as the victims, in the present case as victims of the Holocaust.

Herman Melville noticed over a century ago, in his analysis of the metaphysics of Indian-hating, that those who made a full-time profession of hunting and murdering indigenous people of this continent always made themselves appear, even in their own eyes, as the victims of manhunts.

The use the Nazis made of the International Jewish Conspiracy is better known: during all the years of atrocities defying belief, the Nazis considered themselves the victimized.

It’s as if the experience of being a victim gave exemption from human solidarity, as if it gave special powers, as if it gave a license to kill. ~ Fredy Perlman

The trick of declaring war against the armed resistance and then attacking the resisters’ unarmed kin as well as the sur­rounding population with the most gruesome products of Death-Science — this trick is not new. American Pioneers were pioneers in this too; they made it standard practice to declare war on indigenous warriors and then to murder and burn villages with only women and children in them. This is already modern war, what we know as war against civilian populations; it has also been called, more candidly, mass murder or genocide.

Maybe I shouldn’t be surprised that the perpetrators of a Pogrom portray themselves as the victims, in the present case as victims of the Holocaust.

Herman Melville noticed over a century ago, in his analysis of the metaphysics of Indian-hating, that those who made a full-time profession of hunting and murdering indigenous people of this continent always made themselves appear, even in their own eyes, as the victims of manhunts.

The use the Nazis made of the International Jewish Conspiracy is better known: during all the years of atrocities defying belief, the Nazis considered themselves the victimized.

It’s as if the experience of being a victim gave exemption from human solidarity, as if it gave special powers, as if it gave a license to kill. ~ Fredy Perlman

The trick of declaring war against the armed resistance and then attacking the resisters’ unarmed kin as well as the sur­rounding population with the most gruesome products of Death-Science”; this trick is not new. American Pioneers were pioneers in this too; they made it standard practice to declare war on indigenous warriors and then to murder and burn villages with only women and children in them. This is already modern war, what we know as war against civilian populations; it has also been called, more candidly, mass murder or genocide.

Maybe I shouldn’t be surprised that the perpetrators of a Pogrom portray themselves as the victims, in the present case as victims of the Holocaust.

Herman Melville noticed over a century ago, in his analysis of the metaphysics of Indian-hating, that those who made a full-time profession of hunting and murdering indigenous people of this continent always made themselves appear, even in their own eyes, as the victims of manhunts.

The use the Nazis made of the International Jewish Conspiracy is better known: during all the years of atrocities defying belief, the Nazis considered themselves the victimized.

It’s as if the experience of being a victim gave exemption from human solidarity, as if it gave special powers, as if it gave a license to kill.

Great link, richb. I'm surprised the Great Orange Satan has any non-Z-teamers left to counter the Hasbara since their Zionist rapid response team (they actually have mods setup to do just that) purged so many of them over the years.

Homer Stokes: [as Grand Kleagle at a KKK rally] Brothers! Oh, brothers! We have all gathered here, to preserve our hallowed culture and heritage! We aim to pull evil up by the root, before it chokes out the flower of our culture and heritage! And our women, let's not forget those ladies, y'all. Looking to us for protection! From darkies, from Jews, from papists, and from all those smart-ass folks say we come descended from monkeys!

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less ." "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things." "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master--that's all."

That's impossible. But if it is possible, it didn't happen. And if it did happen, we didn't do it. But if we did do it, we had a good reason. And if we didn't have a good reason, what are you going to do about it?

He had his clubs with him both times at baggage claims. I think he was even still working the sweater-vest look. He is the perfect pitchman for the blue-haired ladies and the grey-panthers (i.e. back when people were 'decent' and knew not to cloud the issue with any sort of nonsense about 'rights' for Palestinians).

I actually saw/met him in person 3 times in my life. The first time I was with my family and saw him with his at brunch at the 94th Aero-Squadron in Van Nuys. The next two times at airport baggage claims. The 2nd time I complimented him for making his album "Pat Boone sings Heavy Metal Music" (though for its camp value, not that I told him that) and he barely muttered "Thank you" and gave me a look like I shouldn't be bothering him.

With what I've seen of the many product endorsements he shills for (and his endless, shameless proselytizing), it's too bad he made it out of the center of the earth.

“I do feel there are many people that disguise their negative feelings toward Jews, disguise it as anti-Israel criticism, political criticism, when in fact what they really mean is that they don’t like Jews,” he said.

I would like to hear from them how those who don't 'hate Jews' should honestly critique Israel.

I made a comment about the Shoah Foundation including the Nakba in their visual history project and wondered if that would raise red flags were I work.

It is prudent to be cautious as no one wants to subject themselves to unnecessary risk and intrusion. Your response was sensible and I'm sure your friend understood though it highlighted the reality of the situation quite starkly.

However, we must also remember that "silence = assent."

Many courageous Palestinians have committed themselves to justice. I can do no less even though the price I might pay is so unequal.

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