Hawaii Will Now Treat All Gun Owners as Suspicious
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06/24/2016.

Due to a new bill signed into law by Hawaiian Governor David Ige, Hawaii will become the first U.S. state to automatically send the names of every lawful gun owner to the FBI, where those names will be entered into a federal database. That database, which has up until now been used to document individuals […]

Due to a new bill signed into law by Hawaiian Governor David Ige, Hawaii will become the first U.S. state to automatically send the names of every lawful gun owner to the FBI, where those names will be entered into a federal database. That database, which has up until now been used to document individuals […]

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Hawaii Will Now Treat All Gun Owners as Suspicious

Due to a new bill signed into law by Hawaiian Governor David Ige, Hawaii will become the first U.S. state to automatically send the names of every lawful gun owner to the FBI, where those names will be entered into a federal database. That database, which has up until now been used to document individuals in “positions of trust” like schoolteachers, will now be turned into what can only be deemed a federal gun registry.

“This is an extremely dangerous bill,” said an NRA spokesperson in May. “Exercising a constitutional right is not inherently suspicious. Hawaii will now be treating firearms as suspect and subject to constant monitoring.”

The ramifications of the law – especially if and when it is used as a model for other states – should not be underestimated. This is exactly what the “paranoid” gun-rights crowd has been fearing for decades. A federal gun registry that can be used and abused by law enforcement officials and liberal administrations. In a political environment where Democrats can’t come out and say the word “confiscation,” this law could lay the groundwork for a very dystopian future.

It bears some disturbing similarities to executive actions announced by President Obama in January, which gave the Social Security Administration a mandate to turn over the names of those who had been deemed mentally unfit to handle their own finances. Under his decree, those individuals may also risk losing their firearms.

Republicans have done a good job limiting the unconstitutional march of the Democrats when it comes to the Second Amendment, but it’s clear they need to do more. It’s no longer enough to stay on defense; the anti-gun lobby is growing more powerful by the day, using emotional ploys and sensationalized tragedies to chip away at our country’s resolve against totalitarianism. Republicans have to fight back, and fight back hard.

grafra102

Why are they doing that, all legal people has a right to own a gun!!!! That is our second Amendment right. Hawaii, don’t forget you are part of us, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!

mrpoohead

“a well regulated militia” – well it ain’t regulated. In the rest of the modern world it is. Thus they have a homicide rate a fifth to a tenth of ours (which is on par with Cuba/Libya and Iraq). Last year we averaged a mass shooting per day – Switzerland has had two in 100 years, UK one in ten, Australia one in twenty. Would like to see the “militia” well regulated please. That is what is in the Constitution.

Yes, he even missed Chicago with the toughest gun laws, and with the most crime, especially gang crime which BO never mentions. These are the Democratic hypocrites which layed down in the House last week:

To make it worse, the Democrats don’t practice what they preach. Here is the full list of 26 Democrats who participated in the sit-in who own a gun, as determined by Heat Street:
Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick
Rep. Bennie Thompson
Rep. Dina Titus
Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger
Rep. Jared Huffman
Rep. Jim Cooper
Rep. Jim Costa
Rep. John Carney
Rep. John Garamendi
Rep. Keith Ellison
Rep. Mike Thompson
Rep. Peter DeFazio
Rep. Peter Welch
Rep. Rick Nolan
Rep. Ron Kind
Rep. Steve Cohen
Rep. Tim Ryan
Sen. Gary Peters
Sen. Harry Reid
Sen. Mark Warner
Sen. Martin Heinrich
Sen. Patrick Leahy
Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse
Sen. Tammy Baldwin
Sen. Tim Kaine
Sen. Tom Carper
Heat Street was able to obtain the information from a 2013 USA Today survey on congressional members who own a firearm; 12 congressional Democrats who participated in the sit-in did not answer the survey.
Here are some statements that these hypocritical Democrats have made in the past on gun control:
• Kaine: “This body has been impotent, weak, silent and a bystander to this carnage of gun violence that is going on in the United States. There will be no meaningful gun safety reforms done in this body unless it is bipartisan. We’ve got to make progress, and to make progress we’ve got to do it in a bipartisan way.”
• Warner: “The status quo isn’t acceptable. I’ve got three daughters. They asked me on Friday evening, ‘Dad, what are you gonna do about this?’ There’s got to be a way to put reasonable restrictions, particularly as we look at assault weapons, as we look at these fast clips of ammunition.”

The congressional Democrats will also be holding a “national day of action” on Wednesday to further their push gun control agenda and abuse the Constitution. The fact is that they want to take away guns from law-abiding citizens, yet own guns to protect themselves. So does Obama

La Billyboy

Yeah just like the Democrats favorite straw man… Australia. Gun confiscation worked sooo well there…

FACTS:

Australia and the United States — where no gun-ban exists — both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

• Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.

mrpoohead

Australians own guns, the populace reacted to a mass shooting incident twenty years ago. Thus the centre-right government banned automatics. Since then they’ve had one mass shooting – we averaged one per day last year. Sexual assault is not just rape in Australia, it includes squeezing someone’s butt. Idiot. Violent crime means manslaughter, rape, robbery and aggravated assault in US, in Australia it includes punching someone in the pub – cannot compare. Homicide is homicide – we are considerably worse. Duh!

Frank W Brown

You are crazy if you think that more gun restrictions are needed, we the people OWN the government and we look at world events of the past and KNOW that registering guns GIVES the IDIOTS what they need to disarm us. Try reading the FBI crime report regarding the level of crime in America which SHOULD enlighten you!

mrpoohead

No country has a ban on guns – they just have regulations. This means you keep them under lock and key in a safe (not in your bedside cabinet), no illegal or mental issues. The UK did it 200 years ago. Why do I need to read the FBI’s crime report – homicide is five to ten times worse in the US. That speaks for itself. Last year we averaged a mass shooting per day – they’ve had one in twenty years in Australia, two in 100 years in Switzerland, where they have one of the highest gun ownerships in the world. So regulations obviously do work!

Daniel

What good is a gun locked in a safe when an intruder has entered your residence? Oh, that’s right, you’ll ask the intruder to wait while you get your gun out of the safe…I think I’ll keep mine by my bedside, thank you.

mrpoohead

Well they don’t seem to have those problems elsewhere – homicide rate is considerably lower as is violent crime. One will surmise that the intruder is unlikely to be carrying so a baseball bat will suffice.

Gerry Costa

You are living 50 years ago. My guess is, from experience, that 99.2% of all criminals have weapons and will kill you with them if you don’t protect yourself.

mrpoohead

Fifty years ago the homicide rate was about double – so we have improved. However, it would seem in civilised countries you are in-correct. It is just toilets were the world is ruled by fear.

Frank W Brown

Yeah, when your door gets busted down in the middle of the night, you’re going to rush to your safe, fumble with the combination and BE DEAD before you can get out your gun, load it etc. What an IDIOT!!!

mrpoohead

Why would I chose to live somewhere like that? My wife rarely locks the front door or the car. Duh! Who’s the fool for living in your world.

Gerry Costa

If you don’t live here then you should have NO opinion. You stay in your little world and we will take care of ours.

mrpoohead

Gloating! And it’s a better world – there isn’t a city I wouldn’t walk across, have live din LA and NY. Not so good!

HoG

Please Frank, don’t confuse this Anti-American agitator “mr shìtfor brains” with any facts. He’s not here for constructive comments, he’s a sock-puppet for the Marxists.

Frank W Brown

Once again, you should enlighten yourself on crimes stats from our VERY OWN FBI, there’s NO WAY to “spin” the TRUTH, IDIOT!

mrpoohead

The Crime Stats merely prove America by comparison is the toilet of humanity! Less freedom, less opportunity.

Frank W Brown

Well then, I guess it’s time for you to get the hell OUT! Go find a BETTER place to live, IDIOT!

mrpoohead

Already done.

Frank W Brown

GOOD!

mrpoohead

Yep, best decision we ever made. Great schools – state health care and not a suburb in any city I wouldn’t walk through – compared to the West’s Toilet! You know it makes sense – wife rarely locks the car or the house. Paradise!

HoG

It’s too bad that you didn’t take ☭ømrade Crooked Killary and ☭ømrade Øbama with you. We wouldn’t miss them either.

mrpoohead

Well it got a write up in Time and plenty of newspaper and other media – so, yep. Averaged one per day – that means somedays none, others a few. C’est la vie! Obama I could live with – not Clinton nor Trump come to that. Doubt you understand the term “comrade” – Democrats are center-right, no center-left party exists in America. Blaming the President for anything seems kinda silly – they have no power – House runs economic and foreign policy and all others. The President is like the Queen, just a face.

Mass shooting is deemed four plus – funny thing is the only one that got press on it’s own nationally was the one in San Bernardino. Can’t imagine why? Islamic terrorists make up 5% of terrorism, but 100% of the news. Ha!

HoG

So sorry, you’re not a bald faced liar. You’re just a pernicious anti-American agitator. Ha!

mrpoohead

Only thing I am “anti” is cherry-picked facts, BS and morons – take your pick you’re in there, if not all three.

HoG

At least I’m not like all of your inbred relatives.

mrpoohead

Pot, kettle – at least I have facts and not BS.

HoG

Yep, I bet that you DO have the facts about all of your inbred relatives. Please keep them to yourself, I’m going to be eating dinner soon and I don’t care to be grossed out.

Apparently not – there was an article in Time too. Only four states didn’t have one. Also, homicide rate not released last two years – conservative estimates are that it has rocketed. Officially we are still on 2013 figures.

HoG

Your inbreeding is becoming very apparent.

mrpoohead

Well if that’s were you have to go to find truth best move to Maine or W Virginia.

HoG

Oh “poo-head”, is that WHERE (notice that I spelled that very difficult word correctly) your incestuous, inbred relatives live? Do they all look alike, have the same last name and not have any idea who their real father might be, like you?

mrpoohead

I have a wife for spelling and grammar, were it is important.

HoG

Well then, I suggest that you let her post your idiotic entries for you, because your spelling and grammar are really fùckèd up.

mrpoohead

Hmmmmmm – pot, kettle.

Woody

Drugs!

mrpoohead

Well not really my thing, but apparently they are available.

Woody

I figured – but just a good guess

Debra Shawver

If you sealed the damn border and kicked out ALL the illegals and gang bangers back to where they came from the homicide rate would go down to near zero……Chicago is a prime example of severely regulated gun control..the law-abiding citizens have none and the criminals have them all…..

Plus, Europe of course has no “illegals”? No gangs? Just a truckload more brains. The idiots left and went to America. Ha!

Clint McInnes

“Regulated” in the sense of “supplied”, which is what it meant at the time. Over the last two-and-a-quarter centuries, the standard meaning of the word has changed. Languages are fluid, English more so than most. The British Regulars were called that because they were regulated (supplied) with regulation equipment (the Brown Bess).

What the Second Amendment intends is that every able-bodied citizen should have access to a firearm because every able-bodied citizen was a member of the militia. They didn’t have a standing Army (they didn’t trust the Federal government with one … not that I can disagree) and had just come out of nearly a decade of war which was largely fought over the right of the average citizen to maintain his freedom from “official tyranny”.

The Second Amendment has precisely SQUAT to do with hunting or sport shooting. It has EVERYTHING to do with giving the populace the means to resist unwanted or unlawful government control. And before you go ballistic about Joe Average not standing a chance against the military might of the US … duh. It’s not about one man versus 1.3 million soldiers. It’s about an armed POPULACE being able to effectively resist officially sanctioned harm. And in THAT case, the military is THOROUGHLY outmatched. (Not that I think the military as a whole would attack our own people. Even if the officers had largely drunk the Kool-Aid, you’d have MASSIVE desertion from the ranks.)

On the other hand … If some future president invited the UN “peace-keepers” (now there’s a misnomer for you) into the States to “quell an uprising” (read: shoot innocent civilians) … how long do you think they’d want to stick around if they lost a man or two every time they went on patrol? And believe me, they would.

As a cogent example, look at Russia’s incursion into Afganistan. They fought for over nine years to try to bring the Afganis to heel, a bunch of disparate tribes whose armaments were significantly less potent than what is floating around the US. Russia finally withdrew in shame because the cost of occupation was simply too high.

Joe Average doesn’t HAVE to stand against the Army, because he has a LOT of people standing with him. That’s why the Second Amendment was written.

NOW … All that being said, we need to do a MUCH, MUCH better job of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of idiots and evil-doers. Strongly enforcing existing laws is a start, but also:
— “Shall-issue” is fine, but the recipient needs to take a safety/handling/marksmanship course to be able to buy a gun. And she/he needs to pass the ‘safety’ part with a perfect score.
— Background checks are fine, but the NICS is only about 80% accurate, and is missing a LOT of data on a LOT of people.
— A waiting period between applying to buy a gun and being cleared to do so is FINE. The background check needs to have enough time to do a thorough job.
— No “open-carry” unless you are a member of law enforcement or the National Guard. Open carry is an invitation to trouble, and is WAY too in-your-face for a LOT of people. Besides, if you are obviously armed and there are evil types around who are planning a mass shooting, just who do you think they’ll target first? Right: the guy who could shoot back.
— And this one is important: You have to develop the right mindset BEFORE you get a gun. Why do you want it?
1) Home defense? If you have no intention of carrying, that makes a big difference in the type of weapon you get. Home defense is best served by a semi-auto 12-gauge shotgun loaded with light shot (you don’t want to penetrate any walls, and the light shot is less likely to kill the intruder). And, no, you DON’T want to kill the guy (it’s almost always a guy … or two or three) because you’ll lose your weapon and might possibly face a lawsuit from his family … not to mention the mental trauma you’d suffer from taking a human life.
2) You want to carry a personal firearm for protection when you are out in the Big Bad World? Then you need to get REALLY accurate with it, and that means practice-practice-practice. You need to be at the range at least twice a month, and throw at least a few hundred downrange each time. Someone carrying a pistol who isn’t very good with it is a colossal pile of misery just waiting to happen. One of your stray bullets killing a child in a nearby house because you missed the mugger will become your worst nightmare in every respect. And regardless of which firearm you feel most comfortable with, you need to load it with hollow-points. The Hornady TAP round is a good example. High kinetic energy delivery with hardly any chance of through-and-through. Also, the walls of a house will usually stop it. But if you are carrying for ambulatory personal protection, you need to understand and INTERNALIZE that you may have to kill someone. If you have the SLIGHTEST hesitation about being able to do that … DON’T CARRY.

And if you think the Second Amendment is “being misinterpreted”, here is what some Founding Fathers had to say on the topic:

“The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.”- Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824

“The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.”- Samuel Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788

“To disarm the people…[i]s the most effectual way to enslave them.”- George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops.”- Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787

UK “regulated” firearms about 200 years ago – so no! British Regulars – amusing twist, but no. They still have regulations and folk still have guns – they just have safety precautions and common sense, plus a homicide rate about a fifth. They have had one mass shooting in ten years, we averaged one per day last year. Regulations – common sense!

Clint McInnes

And I believe I listed a few common-sense things that could be done.

What would you add, given that the genie is most definitely out of the bottle, with a quarter of a billion firearms — most of which are unregistered — already loose in the country?

mrpoohead

Well me thinks regulation started somewhere in other countries, did they have no guns to start with? Nice try Einstein – stupid comment.

Clint McInnes

You like to toss around the term “regulation”. I wonder if you have a good working definition of the word, for the purposes of your position. My guess would be that you don’t; you should work on developing exactly what you mean when you say guns need to be regulated. (See my suggestions above for ideas.)

Now …

In the first place, given the tone of your response, I believe you did an excellent job choosing a user name.

In the second, the current level of guns per capita in the US is a great deal higher than it was in Britain or Australia.

In the third, assuming you could outlaw guns completely tomorrow, it would have roughly the same effect as outlawing alcohol did. You’d make instant felons of millions of otherwise law-abiding citizens, and create a very lucrative black market.

In the fourth … ad hominem attacks? Really? Well, that’s the signal that you’ve run out of reasonable arguments, and thus the exchange is over.

mrpoohead

Do you think there were no “illegal” firearms in other countries?

Gun ownership in Switzerland is one of the highest in the world yet the homicide rate is a tenth, with two mass shootings in 100 years. Gun ownership per capita not related to homicide rate – obviously more loonies in US?

No country has outlawed guns – they just have common sense regulations. Duh! The Aussies reacted to a mass shooting 20 years ago by offering a buy back scheme for banned guns – worked! UK regulations mean locked in a safe, no criminal or mental history. Not difficult.

Total bullshit,this mass shooting a day story has been proven wrong again and again,and maybe you should read the part that says,the right of the INDIVIDUAL to keep and bear arms,’SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

mrpoohead

Really – well you’d better tell all those nasty media sources. There was an article in Time magazine, it was covered in most big newspapers. It was an average of a mass shooting per day though – some days none, some days lots.

The Supreme Court also said that the 2nd Amendment does not prohibit regulation and ownership is not unlimited. Duh!

Go away, grow a brain. Stick to humping your brother.

Debra Shawver

You do not live here..you said so yourself so STHU….you have NO SAY regarding our Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

mrpoohead

Got a vote bimbo.

savanah1

Really? Time magazine? what an idiot ,go brush your tooth inbred,and do a little research while your at it ,I know it will take a while typing with one finger and all.And the constitution means exactly what it says so I could give a rats ass about a bunch of robe wearing political appointees,do the mainland a favor and sink into the ocean.According to the FBI,from 2007 to 2013 there have been an average of 16.7 shootings per year,in the past 13 years they have accounted for 436 deaths or an average of 33 per year.Stop believing everything you see on msm.

Woody

Time Magazine–the rag? He just gave his low IQ away with that one-will read his posts no more.

I read a similar article in Time, maybe around March/April last year and it was in most of the big papers – FBI does not catalog mass shootings, just total homicides. Current figures listed are 2013, we’ve had spikes in most cities since, smart money ain’t on the figures going down and with the current world climate any good news would be jumped on by the government.

I must say your attitude to folk “wearing robes” is amusing, you’ll defend something very debatable yet ruled on by greater minds than yours. Meanwhile the people haven’t had the kahuna’s to rise up against 100 years of plutocracy. Hysterical!

Still what should I expect from the progeny of siblings – now back to bed with your cousin and see if you can improve the gene pool. Oh, I do love stupid people.

Sage

Do you honestly believe the statistics you’re sharing? Dig a little deeper . Isn’t it funny that we have had so many perfectly timed ‘ mass shootings’ Chicago, New York, DC , have the toughest gun laws and the highest number of shootings. Criminals and terrorists, and yes, crazies, don’t care about laws. Why is slavery so appealing to you? You want to live under the boot? I don’t, but that’s where we’re headed, thanks to morons like yourself.

mrpoohead

Stats are stats – no I’m not Gerry in “Conspiracy Theory”. Think you will find in times of an economic down-turn crime rockets, C’est la vie! “Slavery” what? America is already there, little care for people, just corporations and conglomerates. We have the worst stats for society in the Western world – worst social disparity and mobility, plus the worst homicide rate. Not the land of freedom or opportunity – a society not to emulate, more sneered at.

Debra Shawver

mrpoo..FYI..in Switzerland every citizen is armed and trained in the use of them……

mrpoohead

Please check your facts – they are in-correct. Gun-ownership is half, per capita, of America’s. Duh! They also have stringent regulations – safe concreted into floor, key……. Blonde perhaps or naturally dumb?

Phil Perri

And Switzerland is a socialist country. They learned their history from the Nazi’s and Hitlery, so they know you can’t disarm or you’ll become a victim.

David Stewart

They really aren’t part of the U.S., only for the handouts. Recently a high court had to remind them they can’t go back to a monarchy. Went there once on vacation, not ever make that mistake again! Talk of racism!

HAOLEBOY55

I lived here my whole life don’t make comments about the people here and their culture when your ignorant to our history , that’s being racist we don’t need you to come back

David Stewart

Not to worry; were you the resort bus driver that made disparaging remarks all the wsy from the resort to Kona Beach about the lousy mainlanders? Speak of racist!

HAOLEBOY55

Nope I don’t live in Mona, sorry for that experience we do have our share of a$$holes

HAOLEBOY55

our Hawaii politicians don’t care about our legal rights or privacy the are all control hungry freaks

Debra Shawver

Then why do you vote them back in??????

HAOLEBOY55

I don’t , but the majority seems to think they deserve the jobs they suck at.
Good question by the way , I ask it a lot

Kea Among

It’s a Democratic, Liberal, Cesspool here in Paradise.
We have the most homeless, highest prices for food and homes.
I know I have lived it all my life.
Can’t fight the system when you stand alone against big money, and the politicians are standing at the front of the line with their hands and arms wide open to collect!
They don’t care about the Constitution or WE THE PEOPLE’S rights. Our court system caters to the government and not the people they represent. It all starts with “The Good Old Boy” system that has been in place for decades.
The price we pay to live in paradise! ! ! ! ! !
LIVE ALOHA …..What a crock

grafra102

THIS IS WHAT THAT POS IN WASHINGTON HAS STARTED!!! HE NEEDS TO BE HUNG BY HIS BALLS IF THERE IS ANY THERE!!!

I think is is just another example of the racism rampant in Hawaiian politics, education system and business for years…Has very little to do with gun ownership more a reflection of the Governor’s own need to control others..

HAOLEBOY55

Our island politicians speak out of both sides of their mouths they only want total control our islands are controlled by greedy socialist politicians

Debra Shawver

So vote them out!

Skip Plummer

Hawaii… one of another “great states” to stay far away from.

Gerry Costa

Right you are Skip. My wife and I were going to Maui in the very near future but we have already talked to our travel agent and are now heading to Jamaica instead.

Buck

The peoples socialists republic of Hawaii

Debra Shawver

Will not ever be going back there…only ones with guns will be the criminals….

Buck

Debra I was only there once. We stopped there at the airport on my return from Vietnam. It was night time Kiki torches and rock water fountains. We were all impressed and quite as we had not seen this kinda of thing in a year. And seeing the pretty girls there. We were all thankful to be alive.
I was never there again. It a shame that it has become such a place. The Muslim attack us and our government wants to take our means of defense away. I will never go back. Keep your powder dry Debra I think hard times are coming. Buck ??⚔??100% disabled Vietnam veteran Christian Right wing republican and long time NRA member and friend to the nation of Israel

You’d have to be stupid to register in either case. Just means a lot of previously law abiding folks will choose to ignore this law. These laws just make it more dangerous and fuel a black market which leads to a situation where there is chaos.

jimmy9522

What they are saying is “don’t register your guns”and screw Hawaii.

ironbiker

sounds unconstitutional to me…..

Lee Wilder

just as the TSA treats every passenger going through airport security as suspicious. I am willing to give up some rights in order to reduce the risk of mass shootings or airplane hijackings.

Would you kindly list for me the number of hijackers that the TSA has successfully identified, much less detained? Practically every time they do an internal audit, they fail miserably.

The existence of the TSA makes a few people in positions of power feel good about themselves because they are “doing something about the problem”. Except they aren’t. They are inconveniencing passengers and making the act of air travel a depressing chore. Oh, and confiscating nail files and cigarette lighters. Very important tasks.

Debra Shawver

What a fool you are..obviously you do not know history……read Jo-Jo guns comment..Ben Franklin was correct….and Stalin would love you.

Phil Perri

The Nazi’s confiscated all guns in the 30’s before the war, to prevent any back-talk. That is what the socialist pigs are trying to do in America. The 2nd Amendment was written for a reason, but the libturds will never understand it’s true meaning.

michael friend

If I ever travel overseas I will make sure that Hawaii will just be a layover for me and that I never buy anything there.

It’s Hawaii. It’s paradise and only the beach and the weather keeps them happy. So they really are not into hardcore politics. Why bother? It’s paradise. There is plenty of good food and the beach is always just a few minutes away.

But any politician takes that away or harasses their paradise and these locals will be up there ass in no time.

The smart asses up there better not push their luck too far. Believe you me the locals are watching them on this one.

HAOLEBOY55

More proof that we have STUPID politicians in Hawaii that are ignorant to the constitutional law of our country.
Congress passed a law to protect law abiding citizen from being put on FBI watch list if the FBI does this they are no
better than the law breaker governor in Hawaii

Alleged Comment

I don’t know if you have seen the guy who put his Bill out. Weird looking ucker bald with thick glasses. The governer there seems to be an idiot, I am told. Both of them are Demoncraps who like to wield control on Hawaiian people.

It’s always been that way there if you study history. The Demoncraps like to rule through the old boy network and reward fiends, er friends.

IMO, the flip retard there worked out a deal with the negro so when America gets ATTACKED the negro will come to Hawaii and rule like the king he always wanted to be but rejected by Washington so they will reward him with Hawaii and the flip will be rewarded with a high position in the sodomite’s kingdom.

Debra Shawver

They want us disarmed so they can finish taking America down…..and instill a communist sharia compliant dictatorship…..

Alan404

Blame the electorate and the clowns they so unwisely put into public office for this latest statist crap.

melmack 1

Just like mexifornia !!!

Keoni Ronald May

Gun owners are now commingled with criminals.

The NCIC ID numbers, can give the impression, that the person associated with this number, is a criminal.

Gerry Costa

This ige is an idiot. Him and anyone associated with obozo are the ones Hawaii should be suspicious about.

melmack 1

This is why SCUMOCRATS are hated in many AMERICAN circles….billary and elizabeth are part of the SCUM !!!

Beau Monet

If they get too suspicious…they may find themselves looking down the wrong end of the barrel!!

Beau Monet

I’m tired of having to live under Communists, Socialists, Marxists…etc.. rules and regulations!! This is America…not some other stupid country!! Let us Raise Her up to the standards we used to have in America!! Trump!!! 2016!!!

junkmailbin

get up, stand firm, and never back up. Step forwards constantly and if you walk over some progressive, make sure to grind your heal in.

Beau Monet

I’m with you!! Let’s do it!!

disqus_CeZmTpgh9W

After all Obummer’s mother forged his birth certificate to show he ws born there!

Debra Shawver

Yes…and the one woman who could prove it just happened to end up dead in a sight-seeing plane crash that no one else died in…….hmmmmmmm

Phil Perri

I heard the coroner found a round hole in her skull, but no bullet. It sounds like some sort of a knife weapon was used on her.

Bill

I love Hawaii, but expect no less from the king of welfare states. The average welfare payout is over $60,000/year. Why work when the government (taxpayer) will support you.
Hawaii is a beautiful place, but it has been sold out to government hand outs to keep the real natives quite. Why would Hawaii put gun owners on a suspicious list? Gee, politics anyone.

disqus_CeZmTpgh9W

Apparently the governor has decided to do is what the Japanese air force could not do

Morton212

A peace loving citizen who respects the law – should have nothing to worry about. Consequently I applaud this effort which will almost certainly save lives by apprehending killers far more easily. At the very least, it will make it far easier for law enforcement to track killers and those who would enable them.

Not at all. I have lived in several large cities where crime is a part of life – New York, Paris and London – and never needed my own weapon.

Bill

This is whats to come. It will be in your town before long. I see it as unconstitutional. but it makes no difference with this administration. Ammo up, cause here it comes.

Debra Shawver

Apparently Hawaiians are not taught history…1st step for a dictatorship and enslavement of the people is gun registration…next comes confiscation and the only ones who have the guns are criminals…who by definition do not follow the law and the thugs for the dictatorship…Stalin would be so proud of these useful idiots….

Woody

Good points; who has the most guns–the Demoncrats and the government; BO sells more guns than anyone in the world 19 of the Dems at the House sit-in last week ARE gun owners–talk about hypocrisy. Why does the IRS, the Post Office, et al now have guns–the Post Office can’t lick a stamp right.

melmack 1

I guess they have forgotten their history of being invaded by the “Hollys”. It seems that the “Hollys” of nutafornia are importing their communist rules. Wait until they start importing Mexicans and giving out the native Hawaiian Soc sec numbers …. Just their way of colonizing

Name

Hawaii wants to a commie state just like califoracate.

Kea Among

The spirit of Aloha is on the fast track to oblivion.
Our Hawaii State Government has given up WE THE PEOPLE’S SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

Gail

The people in Hawaii need to stand up and fight. Get rid of the liberal governor and all in both houses . It is time to clean house there too !!!!

Cousins In Hawaii Calm Down…We that own guns in America own them to be able to protect ourselves from the likes of Obamas and Hitler HIllarys of the World who would invade America …..You die if You do not have the means to protect Yourselves from the Enemies without and within America! The gun grabbers would take over America in a second if they thought they could and guns saves Us!

This is the grave danger of any sort of gun control law. Government can begin to classify any gun owner as a threat to society. I oppose any sort of legislation on promoting people being placed on “watch lists” which is no unlike what Hitler did. I will be very unhappy if the GOP gave in on that issue any at all.

Woody

Yes, think about this–BO scoffs often on TV of Trump being able to deport he says 11,000,000 people and with his other mouth thinks he can walk in to over 50,000,000 people and take their guns?

Woody,
I don’t follow you line of thinking. Trump has consistently said he is concerned with security of the people in this country. He simply wants to create a safer environment for all who live in the US.Watch Border Wars on the Justice channel and see what the reality of border protection and he failure of it is doing. Look at what has happened in Europe after letting in so many refugees. I live close to a fairly large population of Hispanic people. While most are fine people and now moving up the food chain from earlier days of living in migrant farm camps, they contribute to more crime than any other social group. But that is due to the fact that they are the only real non-white group in the state.