Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
... until then, we're going to be limping along looking for our lost marbles.

Ok, so you did find a new "hobby" to replace hair-pulling once you lost your hair...It's nice to know that you're up to the challenge of
"changing your pace."

Originally posted by ZeddicusZulZorander
Smash your own stuff, and blame someone else. It's the way of the world!
No wonder there are so many lawyers.

This is precisely the reason why manufacturers must go to extra time, effort & expense to put waning labels on their products...Such as; ladders with
"proper use instructions" & Q-Tips say never to insert the cotton tip fully into the ear canal. They have to go to so much extra trouble to protect
themselves from idiots who happen to know lawyers.
Maybe ATS should place such a disclaimer warning on the Home Page?

Yes, I have an actual purpose for making most of this post with quotes: I'm trying to avoid single-line posting!

Okay, I'll have to confess: It's something that only recently started to happen. When I click on the "Quote" button, it jumps down to a position
directly under the "Reply" button. Then I have to click it again just to get the "posting screen" to load up. Also, the low-contrasting Edit
button seems to have found a new place right above the "Reply" button...I had to highlight the area with my cursor to find it...

Originally posted by Majic
...but I still get the impression that some members are concerned that this transitional state is the final version.

Well, that's not why I'm here. I realize that, when they tweak here that something else happens there. All I'm doing is pointing out
there so that it doesn't get missed in all of the marble-scrabbling...Sort of like helping the Staff to remember to put up the veneer & trim
after the major construction is completed.

I used up 250 points to change my avatar background to a more "Dark Matter-friendly" color...But I still notice that a few people (some even posting
in this thread) who show some low-contrasting colors with the text on their backgrounds. What I'm wondering is, for those members who may not have
enough points to change their colors, could they get one free color-change in their profile editing when the "construction dust" clears?

Hope I'm not nit-picking too much...I'm sure stuff will get straightened out soon. Already SO has lost all off his hair & convinced the rest of the
Staff to help him look for his marbles...As anyone who has ever lost a needle in a haystack would know, getting everything put together right can take
a lot of time. I'm remembering my military days, when there was never time to do it right but always time to do it over.

Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
...Especially if you are reading in a furtive way...
...or using your boss's computer while he's out, so your posts won't be traced back to you by the N.S. of A.

Heh, I never thought of that...Thanks!

Seriously though, I have an IP server that randomly changes my IP number every time I connect...That helps a lot.

i have noticed on the new posts section that when a thread goes into more than one page, the page numbers are the same as the background colour so you
cant see them (i thought originally that they were just missing) i found this out by highlightng all of the page and then you can see them.

as others have already mentioned, i also think it would be a great idea if there was a choice to view it in the old colours because lots of people
seem to be having great difficulty with the new scheme.

I'm really finding it much less enjoyable like this. Many things are not readable and this 1/2 page just does not make any sense to me as far as
functionality goes. It reminds me of a blog moreso then it does a forum.

Originally posted by Regenmacher
I don't like inverted text fields, and if I want tortured eyeballs I will check into club Gitmo.

Perhaps it's time for personal ATS stylesheets to circumvent the colors.
Not everyone lives in a black cave devoid of sunlight and glare.

Fill your eyes with that double vision.
It's just as fun as an icecream headache!

[edit on 5-12-2006 by Regenmacher]

regen get rid of that before you get ATS sued for like 10 million dollars because they had a seizure...or even worse....EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!!!!AHHHHHH!!!
Sorry I was just reading some rediculous lawsuits.

I thought the old main page listings for sub forums was better then the new listings. But if more people like it now definately leave it because its
not a big deal. Now chat is a big deal. If dark matter includes chat, I hope we get on that quick. What isn't wrong with chat? haha, sorry.

I can see that. The old homepage could get confusing to someone who didn't get it. It's almost like you would have had to be familiar with the
site to understand it. A slight hinderance when it comes to pulling in new users.

SO, how many of those visitors are now joining. Or rather, has there been an increase in new members since the upgrade?

Yeah, I don't like the eye hurt thing either...Too bad I'm not near sighted..that might help? I simply can't see some of this black/ on black
stuff. It's like sitting in a dark room trying to sew a piece of black fabric with black thread.

I don't like to complain but, this isn't fun....it's a whole lot of work now, alot of eye strain, and I find myself turning on every light I can in
the computer room just trying to compensate all the dark. I adjusted my setting to the lightest too, and sometimes that option seems to be working,
and sometimes it isn't? Go figure?

I liked the way it was before

I don't like change either, but seeing how we are in the Manority.....

:w:

Edit** to add

They were right on when the said in the banner: "Online discussion will never be the same after ATS Dark Matter

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
After the redesign (although it's only a few days), over 80% of all new visitors who hit the home page first, are clicking through to another page.
That's a significant jump.

I don't have any issues with the new layout....looks good...It's the black on black.
If you guys could use a font that stands out on the black or dark grey...I'd be alll cool with that. I like this place and I don't intend to
leave....I'm a very loyal person.
This is all about bringing in new members? hmmm

As mentioned previously (and frequently), the new color scheme is hard on older eyes and the"up to top of page buttons" are sorely missed by those
of us too lazy to scroll back up; however, I'll be reading ATS with a flashlight and a zoom lens if need be. Great work, amigos. Appreciate all
your hard work and dedication. I trust you'll get all the kinks worked out so that even more people can enjoy this worthwhile site.

while i appreciate all of the hard work that goes into keeping this site one of the best on the net, i dont really care for the new colors, or the
fact that i have to go pressing extra buttons to get a taste of what's active at the moment. but i suppose i'll get used to it.....there's always
got to be one malcontent in the mix.

I don't see the need for two threads about the new design to be running simultaneously. Please add any further comments, complaints, and suggestions
regarding the new design and related issues to the original thread:

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