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Not Madden rationale.......I'm stating that anyone who has even a basic understanding of football, even if it just comes from having played Madden a couple times, understands you take your timeouts BEFORE the two minute warning.

You entirely missed the point. Please don't "enter the room" again because you aren't bringing much into it.

He took both timeouts when the Eagles had the ball on the OTHER SIDE of the two minute warning instead of taking them both before the two minute warning.

Cost us an additional 15-20 seconds which we could have used to run 1 more play, get a little bit closer and make a closer field goal.

Anyone with even half a brain who has played Madden once or twice in their lives knows you use the timeouts BEFORE the two minute warning in a goal line situation and not AFTER the two minute warning.

Terrible clock management cost us this game more than the passing interference.

Put the blame where it belongs folks!

Einstein, he had time for one more play, chose not to take it, just a bad call on the PI to Barden, after hearing Eli after the game that was all on him, he liked the match up and put the ball in a bad spot, still no excuse for not trying a quick out wth 15 to go to get another 5 yards,

Not Einstein, nothing you said has anything at all to do with my point which is that if he had used our timeouts properly, by calling them BEFORE the two minute warning, we would have had 15 or so extra seconds to run 1 more play on third down and 19.....

Now there is no guarantee we would have completed a pass if we had of, but we at least could have taken a shot and then lined up to kick a field goal before time expired which we couldn't guarantee doing wit 15 seconds left on the clock.

It was terrible clock management. Some of our fans lack of football knowledge is rather frightening.

Not Einstein, nothing you said has anything at all to do with my point which is that if he had used our timeouts properly, by calling them BEFORE the two minute warning, we would have had 15 or so extra seconds to run 1 more play on third down and 19.....

Now there is no guarantee we would have completed a pass if we had of, but we at least could have taken a shot and then lined up to kick a field goal before time expired which we couldn't guarantee doing wit 15 seconds left on the clock.

It was terrible clock management. Some of our fans lack of football knowledge is rather frightening.

Without going back and looking at the tape I think at the most they only lost 8 seconds by waiting for the 2 minute warning, either way, bad call going deep, wussy call not trying a quick one with 15 seconds to go.

I though it was the wrong call too, but in retrospect it was the right call not to call the TO before the two minute. we got the ball back with just under two minutes. Plenty of time. All we needed was the FG. If we burn the TO score too early Philly gets the ball back with two TO. It is on the players not the coaches. Poor execution and tough loss all round. We are all used to winning those

Not Einstein, nothing you said has anything at all to do with my point which is that if he had used our timeouts properly, by calling them BEFORE the two minute warning, we would have had 15 or so extra seconds to run 1 more play on third down and 19.....

Now there is no guarantee we would have completed a pass if we had of, but we at least could have taken a shot and then lined up to kick a field goal before time expired which we couldn't guarantee doing wit 15 seconds left on the clock.

It was terrible clock management. Some of our fans lack of football knowledge is rather frightening.

So what your saying is you want to rush out the field goal unit in 15-20 seconds, set up and kick a 54 yard field goal?!?!? Come on man....

We let the clock run down to the two minute warning. We called our second timeout at 1:57 and third at 1:52. Then they had to kick the FG.

If we use both timeouts BEFORE the two minute warning, there is a very good chance we could have gotten the ball back with at the very least a FULL two minutes but possibly even 2:03-2:05.

So at the very least, 8 extra seconds. More than likely 10-15 extra seconds

AT THE VERY LEAST.

Tack that onto the 15 seconds that were already on the clock. That gives us time to run a short play for an extra 4 or 5 yards and have the FG team ready to sprint onto the field and lineup for a 45-47 yarder instead of a 54 yarder.

Hypothetical for sure but what's not hypothetical is that he USED THE CLOCK POORLY by not calling the timeouts on the right side of the two minute warning.