i very much enjoy freestyle rapping by myself or with others. without music. its pretty much like recreational talking, socializing with your friends. i guess it would be ok if i did it, but not a lot. thoughts? i really dont see much harm in it, its seems to be on the same morality scale as talking for fun. the thing is i REALLY enjoy it so that could be a setback.

to practice patience with others rough speech, perceive there words as only sound, patience is the path to nibbana.

befriend wrote:i very much enjoy freestyle rapping by myself or with others. without music. its pretty much like recreational talking, socializing with your friends. i guess it would be ok if i did it, but not a lot. thoughts? i really dont see much harm in it, its seems to be on the same morality scale as talking for fun. the thing is i REALLY enjoy it so that could be a setback.

Hi befriend,

I'm not sure why that would be a problem for a lay practitioner if its not causing harm to anyone. There are plenty of Buddhists who engage in all kinds of recreational hobbies and social activities which they enjoy.

You did not know that Buddhists cannot have fun of any sort other than jhana?

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++++++++++++++++This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.

There is freedom from birth, freedom from becoming, freedom from making, freedom from conditioning. If there were not this freedom from birth, freedom from becoming, freedom from making, freedom from conditioning, then escape from that which is birth, becoming, making, conditioning, would not be known here. -- Ud 80

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.People live in one another’s shelter.

You did not know that Buddhists cannot have fun of any sort other than jhana?

But what fun, though! Defining jhana, arguing about it, declaring how to attain it, finding examples and accounts of it in the Suttas, taking sides over it, and dismissing other people's attempts to do all the above.

Sam Vega wrote:But what fun, though! Defining jhana, arguing about it, declaring how to attain it, finding examples and accounts of it in the Suttas, taking sides over it, and dismissing other people's attempts to do all the above.

Freestyle rapping is positively staid in comparison.

As much as I find rap unpleasant and remarkably annoying, I suppose one could do a jhana rap covering all those things, but doing jhana probably would be far better.

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++++++++++++++++This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.

There is freedom from birth, freedom from becoming, freedom from making, freedom from conditioning. If there were not this freedom from birth, freedom from becoming, freedom from making, freedom from conditioning, then escape from that which is birth, becoming, making, conditioning, would not be known here. -- Ud 80

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.People live in one another’s shelter.

Depends on the contents of the rap song. Some song uses that "f" word in about every 2 or 3 sentences and I guess that could be a setback.. How about writing rap songs about the 4NT, 8NP, 12DO, Brahmaviharas, etc..? You'd develop both your creativity and your Path that way..

tiltbillings wrote:....As much as I find rap unpleasant and remarkably annoying, ....

My teenage school pupils successfully converted me into liking some hip-hop and rap. I don't actually listen to it independently though. I don't listen to any kind of music because I'm content with silence .