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[b][red]This message was edited by DrMarten at 2007-2-4 8:13:59[/red][/b][hr]

: I need to get a copy of VB6 becuase I need to communicate with the serial port and it has built-in support and VB.net does not have any support. Is there somewhere to get VB6 or am I stuck with vb.net.

: I need to get a copy of VB6 becuase I need to communicate with the serial port and it has built-in support and VB.net does not have any support. Is there somewhere to get VB6 or am I stuck with vb.net:

can u guys honeltly afford that kinda programming?! i mean, god, thats expensive... although i supose i wouldnt kno since im not a professional... im not even in college accually lol... but im curious, would it b worth buying somthing that expensive wen i DO get into college?

-No two projects are the same-New challenges and puzzles-You have somewhat of an artistic license

Also, I have no college degree. However, I am able to land pretty high paying jobs. Programming is one of those few careers where after a few years you can upsell yourself for better pay.

In fact in the 6 years I have been programming professionally, I have literally doubled my salary. Every job I have taken has been a pay increse. In fact, my recent job has been a $12,000 raise and I am positive that even something better will come along.

Here is the caveats:

- You have to be a jack of trades (know a little of everything) For me its: web programming, desktop programming, databases, etc ... the more you know the more marketble you are.

- You have to constantly research and keep up w/ the ever changing technologies. Expect to re-model your skills every 5-7 years. Make sure you read up on the latest trends, because companies will pay bigger for people w/ those skills.

Being a programmer doesn't just mean typing code all day. It also means reading alot. Read alot of technical books and articles. It also means coming up w/ the best solutions on the spur of the moment sometimes.

If this sounds appealing then go for it. It's great having a desk job w/ regulated hours, because then you are not beating yourself up for less pay and you have more time to have a life. Just watch out for companies that think they can pay you salary and expect you to volunteer 50-60 hours a week.

any job were i can somewhat relax is nice, but im not sure i really want 2 market myself much... but i supose i hav 2 in any job really... anyways, thx for the tips, i think they should b helpful? and what is ur slaery anyways? cuz i looked at the college i wanna go to and it says av starting salery is like 52,000... but thats coming out of a realy good college also

: I personally like programming. For me its:: : -No two projects are the same: -New challenges and puzzles: -You have somewhat of an artistic license: : Also, I have no college degree. However, I am able to land pretty high paying jobs. Programming is one of those few careers where after a few years you can upsell yourself for better pay.: : In fact in the 6 years I have been programming professionally, I have literally doubled my salary. Every job I have taken has been a pay increse. In fact, my recent job has been a $12,000 raise and I am positive that even something better will come along.: : Here is the caveats:: : - You have to be a jack of trades (know a little of everything) For me its: web programming, desktop programming, databases, etc ... the more you know the more marketble you are.: : - You have to constantly research and keep up w/ the ever changing technologies. Expect to re-model your skills every 5-7 years. Make sure you read up on the latest trends, because companies will pay bigger for people w/ those skills.: : Being a programmer doesn't just mean typing code all day. It also means reading alot. Read alot of technical books and articles. It also means coming up w/ the best solutions on the spur of the moment sometimes. : : If this sounds appealing then go for it. It's great having a desk job w/ regulated hours, because then you are not beating yourself up for less pay and you have more time to have a life. Just watch out for companies that think they can pay you salary and expect you to volunteer 50-60 hours a week.: : : awsome... so just curious, do u like programming? cuz thats wat i wanna b, but i wanna kno if people like u enjoy it even as u get older... u kno? so anyways, any advice would b nice 2.: : : : : true ... all my stuff either came from a job or a buddy who has an msdn subscription ... i think i bought a program once in 1998 lol.: : : : : : also it's not always a matter if a company pays for it, it's a matter of if the company knows your making a copy : : : : : : : lol... i see... but ur probly professionals s u can get ur company 2 pay for it. although, i did tell my computer teacher 2 ask the school 2 buy it for next year! so thatll b pretty awsome: : : : : : : : : who says we pay : : : : : : : : : : : can u guys honeltly afford that kinda programming?! i mean, god, thats expensive... although i supose i wouldnt kno since im not a professional... im not even in college accually lol... but im curious, would it b worth buying somthing that expensive wen i DO get into college?

Well salary is relative to where you live. I live in the Buffalo area, so 52000 a year is above average. Our cost of living is low. My brothers wife, she makes 65000 a year as a government empoyee, but they live near Washington DC. Their cost of living is so high, that her salary is just average. Their apartment cost more to rent than my mortgage.

I have no college degree. However, between my full-time job and contracting on the side, I probably make 70-75k a year.

: any job were i can somewhat relax is nice, but im not sure i really want 2 market myself much... but i supose i hav 2 in any job really... anyways, thx for the tips, i think they should b helpful? and what is ur slaery anyways? cuz i looked at the college i wanna go to and it says av starting salery is like 52,000... but thats coming out of a realy good college also: : : I personally like programming. For me its:: : : : -No two projects are the same: : -New challenges and puzzles: : -You have somewhat of an artistic license: : : : Also, I have no college degree. However, I am able to land pretty high paying jobs. Programming is one of those few careers where after a few years you can upsell yourself for better pay.: : : : In fact in the 6 years I have been programming professionally, I have literally doubled my salary. Every job I have taken has been a pay increse. In fact, my recent job has been a $12,000 raise and I am positive that even something better will come along.: : : : Here is the caveats:: : : : - You have to be a jack of trades (know a little of everything) For me its: web programming, desktop programming, databases, etc ... the more you know the more marketble you are.: : : : - You have to constantly research and keep up w/ the ever changing technologies. Expect to re-model your skills every 5-7 years. Make sure you read up on the latest trends, because companies will pay bigger for people w/ those skills.: : : : Being a programmer doesn't just mean typing code all day. It also means reading alot. Read alot of technical books and articles. It also means coming up w/ the best solutions on the spur of the moment sometimes. : : : : If this sounds appealing then go for it. It's great having a desk job w/ regulated hours, because then you are not beating yourself up for less pay and you have more time to have a life. Just watch out for companies that think they can pay you salary and expect you to volunteer 50-60 hours a week.: : : : : awsome... so just curious, do u like programming? cuz thats wat i wanna b, but i wanna kno if people like u enjoy it even as u get older... u kno? so anyways, any advice would b nice 2.: : : : : : : true ... all my stuff either came from a job or a buddy who has an msdn subscription ... i think i bought a program once in 1998 lol.: : : : : : : : also it's not always a matter if a company pays for it, it's a matter of if the company knows your making a copy : : : : : : : : : lol... i see... but ur probly professionals s u can get ur company 2 pay for it. although, i did tell my computer teacher 2 ask the school 2 buy it for next year! so thatll b pretty awsome: : : : : : : : : : : who says we pay : : : : : : : : : : : : : can u guys honeltly afford that kinda programming?! i mean, god, thats expensive... although i supose i wouldnt kno since im not a professional... im not even in college accually lol... but im curious, would it b worth buying somthing that expensive wen i DO get into college?: :