CLINIC: It’s 1-800-352-1901. And it’s called A Woman’s Choice, and it’s in Indianapolis.

CALLER: Okay. My friend told me that since I’ll be 14 in March that my parents have to sign some stuff. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he do that?

CLINIC: No. And you really probably shouldn’t tell that to them.

CALLER: Oh. What do you mean?

CLINIC: If you’re 13 years old and sexually active with a 22-year-old there’s laws against that.

CALLER: Like what?

CLINIC: It’s against the law. He could go to jail?

CALLER: He could go to jail?

CLINIC: Yes, ma’am.

CALLER: But we’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: But it’s statutory rape.

CALLER: But he’s not raping me.

CLINIC: Even if you’re consenting and you’re 13 years old, you’re not a legal adult in the state of Indiana, and it does not matter. So if you call the clinic to have a termination done, the only way that you can get that done in the state of Indiana is if your parents sign for that or you’re emancipated from the state. And you have to do that through a court in Indiana. And no judge will order emancipation if it’s just to get a termination done.

CALLER: Well, how would I do that then?

CLINIC: Do what?

CALLER: Could I go to the judge and be emancipated?

CLINIC: There’s like a three-month waiting period for that, and your parents have to sign your rights away.

CALLER: They do?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Well, what can I do then? Where could I go?

CLINIC: You can go out of state. There’s clinics out of state that will do terminations without parental consent.

CALLER: And they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Without parental consent, yes. But that’s out of state. And I believe you stay over 24 to 36 hours. The only other way is for your parents — and they have to show identification, like a drivers license with their picture on it that they are your parents. Okay?

CALLER: Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy to see?

CLINIC: You don’t even know if you’re pregnant or not?

CALLER: Well, I’m just scared because I missed my period.

CLINIC: Yeah. First before you start calling abortion clinics I would definitely verify that you’re pregnant.

CALLER: Well, could I come to you guys and get —

CLINIC: Sure. Sure. They’re $5, and we can do them any day that we’re open. We’re closed on Tuesdays.

CALLER: Well, what would I tell my parents? Would you guys have to say anything or anything?

CLINIC: We would not notify your parents. But I would tell you when you come in do not tell me that you’re 13 years old and having sex with a 22-year-old.

CALLER: Well, he has to bring me.

CLINIC: Tell me he’s your brother.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Because if you come into any Planned Parenthood and you’re under the age of 14 and sexually active, we have to turn you over to Child Protective Services anyway. But if you’re having sex with a 22-year-old and you’re under the age of 14, that has to be taken care of too. I mean, that’s statutory rape. It’s against the law. It’s illegal.

CALLER: Oh. But I could come in for a pregnancy test, and you guys wouldn’t have to tell anybody anything?

CLINIC: Hang on just a second, okay?

CALLER: All right.

(Long pause)

CLINIC: Are you there, sweetie?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. If you come in to a Planned Parenthood facility under the age of 14, yes, we do have to contact Child Protective Services.

CALLER: So I couldn’t even come in for a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: That’s completely up to you as to what you do. But if you come in here — and then of course once you’re contacted by CPS, they will contact your family.

CALLER: Well, how would you know my age?

CLINIC: Because you have to fill out a form with your birth date and age on it.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: And then the situation is to that you’re telling me that you’re 13 and sexually active with a 22-year-old which that’s — like said, it has to be turned over. So yes, if you would come into a Planned Parenthood facility, yes, we would have to turn you over to Child Protection Services.

CALLER: Well, what can I do?

CLINIC: I would assume to take a home pregnancy test if you didn’t want to go through all of that. But if the test is positive — I mean, if you’re wanting a termination done, it’s going to have to be done with parental consent.

CALLER: Well, are the home pregnancy tests usually accurate?

CLINIC: If you’re late for a period, yes. At 13 if you’re having sex anyway — other than with a 22-year-old — I would make him use a condom or protect myself from pregnancy. I mean, you’re obviously not wanting to be pregnant, and you’re afraid your parents are going to find out. I would get myself on a birth control method to protect yourself from that.

CALLER: But if I wasn’t pregnant, could I come in there and get birth control?

CLINIC: We would have to call Child Protective Services, yes. It sounds like it would be a thing that you maybe need to sit down and talk to your family.

CALLER: I can’t. I don’t know what they would do. I just can’t tell them. I’ll be 14 in March. Would that make any difference?

CLINIC: Probably not, not with this situation.

CALLER: Oh. Well, I’m just really scared.

CLINIC: I would do a home pregnancy test to verify first of all. And then you need to remember the situation — if that test is negative, you need to remember what you’re feeling right now. You need to do something to protect yourself, either abstain from intercourse. I mean, don’t have sex with him or get condoms, use condoms. Protect yourself the best as you can. It’s your body. You need to protect that.

CALLER: Okay. You’ve been so nice.

CLINIC: If you need anything, you let me know. But like I said, I would love to be able to help you in any way I can, but I have to follow the guidelines of Indiana state law, and that’s what I have to do. So if you have any questions or you need anything, you call be back and I’ll talk to you, absolutely.

CALLER: What’s your name?

CLINIC: Kim.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye bye.

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