I like Nui; even when she first appeared and /a/ flipped their shit and hated her, I liked her. However, even though I like her, I still eagerly await seeing her get her shit kicked in in the finale next week.

Nui was raised to help the covers achieve their domination of humanity. She's basically one of them. So from her perspective, she's just trying to be a good daughter and fighting for what she believes is right.

From her perspective the people that oppose the life fibers are the villains.

Nui was raised to help the covers achieve their domination of humanity. She's basically one of them. So from her perspective, she's just trying to be a good daughter and fighting for what she believes is right.

From her perspective the people that oppose the life fibers are the villains.

Sympathy is a relative thing. If you were a life fiber organism I'm sure Nui would probably seem like the most sympathetic character in the show.

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Except THOSE DON'T EXIST IN REAL LIFE, and Nui has never shown any depth outside of "gleeful insane murderer." You are applying characterization and traits that don't exist to a character simply because you like her because of, I dunno, her design or something?

Sympathy is a relative thing. If you were a life fiber organism I'm sure Nui would probably seem like the most sympathetic character in the show.

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Except THOSE DON'T EXIST IN REAL LIFE, and Nui has never shown any depth outside of "gleeful insane murderer." You are applying characterization and traits that don't exist to a character simply because you like her because of, I dunno, her design or something?

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Look, I don't particularly care for Nui more than any other character, I just don't believe in killing people. And yeah, life fibers don't exist, that's why it's called fiction. Are you saying that the ethics/morality of fictional works aren't up for debate?

Sympathy is a relative thing. If you were a life fiber organism I'm sure Nui would probably seem like the most sympathetic character in the show.

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Except THOSE DON'T EXIST IN REAL LIFE, and Nui has never shown any depth outside of "gleeful insane murderer." You are applying characterization and traits that don't exist to a character simply because you like her because of, I dunno, her design or something?

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Look, I don't particularly care for Nui more than any other character, I just don't believe in killing people. And yeah, life fibers don't exist, that's why it's called fiction. Are you saying that the ethics/morality of fictional works aren't up for debate?

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You don't believe in killing people? So why do you watch bloody action anime? Are you for real right now? That's such a ridiculous defense it's pathetic.

You don't believe in killing people? So why do you watch bloody action anime? Are you for real right now? That's such a ridiculous defense it's pathetic.

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Are you saying that you don't think killing is wrong?

I watch and enjoy lots of violent tv shows but I never can get behind characters who kill or hurt people for what I find to be unacceptable reasons. It's that simple.

So far, I see Nui as a victim and someone who can be reformed. I also see her as being powerless to really stand against Ryuko. That's why I think, if Ryuko is a good person, she'll try to save Nui from herself.

You don't believe in killing people? So why do you watch bloody action anime? Are you for real right now? That's such a ridiculous defense it's pathetic.

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Are you saying that you don't think killing is wrong?

I watch and enjoy lots of violent tv shows but I never can get behind characters who kill or hurt people for what I find to be unacceptable reasons. It's that simple.

So far, I see Nui as a victim and someone who can be reformed. I also see her as being powerless to really stand against Ryuko. That's why I think, if Ryuko is a good person, she'll try to save Nui from herself.

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Well, you are completely wrong. Where are you even pulling that from? She has never shown any depth. Ever. I like Nui as a character, but she's shallow as fuck, and that's what I like, she's simply a bad guy for the sake of being bad.

You don't believe in killing people? So why do you watch bloody action anime? Are you for real right now? That's such a ridiculous defense it's pathetic.

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Are you saying that you don't think killing is wrong?

I watch and enjoy lots of violent tv shows but I never can get behind characters who kill or hurt people for what I find to be unacceptable reasons. It's that simple.

So far, I see Nui as a victim and someone who can be reformed. I also see her as being powerless to really stand against Ryuko. That's why I think, if Ryuko is a good person, she'll try to save Nui from herself.

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Well, you are completely wrong. Where are you even pulling that from? She has never shown any depth. Ever. I like Nui as a character, but she's shallow as fuck, and that's what I like, she's simply a bad guy for the sake of being bad.

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It's true that we don't know very much about Nui, but based on the little information we know about her I think it's a perfectly legitimate to conclude that she was raised, created even, to be the way that she is. If, according to Ryuko's morality, she deserves to die for that, then I will lose respect for Ryuko.

Also, on the good and evil are relative point, think about Nonon. Originally she was presented as this sadistic, maniacal, villain, but now, because she and Ryuko are fighting on the same side, she's being presented as a hero.

I watch and enjoy lots of violent tv shows but I never can get behind characters who kill or hurt people for what I find to be unacceptable reasons. It's that simple.

So far, I see Nui as a victim and someone who can be reformed. I also see her as being powerless to really stand against Ryuko. That's why I think, if Ryuko is a good person, she'll try to save Nui from herself.

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Well, you are completely wrong. Where are you even pulling that from? She has never shown any depth. Ever. I like Nui as a character, but she's shallow as fuck, and that's what I like, she's simply a bad guy for the sake of being bad.

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It's true that we don't know very much about Nui, but based on the little information we know about her I think it's a perfectly legitimate to conclude that she was raised, created even, to be the way that she is. If, according to Ryuko's morality, she deserves to die for that, then I will lose respect for Ryuko.

Also, on the good and evil are relative point, think about Nonon. Originally she was presented as this sadistic, maniacal, villain, but now, because she and Ryuko are fighting on the same side, she's being presented as a hero.

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She deserves to die because she murdered Ryuko's father, and because she has no desire to reform. She has to be defeated by Ryuko. There is no other way, and you applying characterization that does not exist to her is ridiculous.

Well, you are completely wrong. Where are you even pulling that from? She has never shown any depth. Ever. I like Nui as a character, but she's shallow as fuck, and that's what I like, she's simply a bad guy for the sake of being bad.

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It's true that we don't know very much about Nui, but based on the little information we know about her I think it's a perfectly legitimate to conclude that she was raised, created even, to be the way that she is. If, according to Ryuko's morality, she deserves to die for that, then I will lose respect for Ryuko.

Also, on the good and evil are relative point, think about Nonon. Originally she was presented as this sadistic, maniacal, villain, but now, because she and Ryuko are fighting on the same side, she's being presented as a hero.

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She deserves to die because she murdered Ryuko's father, and because she has no desire to reform. She has to be defeated by Ryuko. There is no other way, and you applying characterization that does not exist to her is ridiculous.

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I'm not applying characterization to her that doesn't exist, I'm connecting the dots of characterization that does exist.

Things we know:

- Nui was created in a womb of life fibers
- Nui was raised by Ragyo
- Nui talks a lot about doing her own thing, but she's pretty much always doing Ragyo's bidding

Is it really that illogical to conclude that she was raised by Ragyo to be this way? How else did she get that way?