I'm thinking about giving up red meat and chicken for a while and going straight to powders only for my protein intake say 250 grams a day. I would like to try a vegan diet for a while to clean out my system and i was just curious if getting all of my muscle building protein needs from powders throughout the day would be as beneficial or close to as beneficial as eating chicken and meat. I'm also a bit concerned about my arteries and heart health because I keep reading things about how red meat clogs your arteries. I'm a veteran lifter but I always been a novice eater. I'm trying to take my nutrition to the next level, of course I've been trying to do this for many years and I find it when I try to do something I never accomplish it so I think I'm going to take Nike's slogan and just do it! All opinions and advice are welcome and respected and as always I thank you all for your time.

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03-03-2014, 12:45 PM

rambo99

I don't think that's a good idea. I was consuming about 150 grams of protein powders at one point and my bowel movement went to hell. I was constipated, bloated, and had the shits all at the same time. It was terrible!! A number or factors could play into this though (type of protein, enzymes, rest of diet, other supplements, etc) so it's hard to pin-point it directly on the protein but the manufacturer themselves usually tell you not to use it as your main source of protein.

If anything I think the protein powders will make your diet more toxic then cleaning it up. Have you considered swapping red meat for seafood for a while? What about turkey?

03-03-2014, 12:47 PM

caedus

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Originally Posted by rambo99

I don't think that's a good idea. I was consuming about 150 grams of protein powders at one point and my bowel movement went to hell. I was constipated, bloated, and had the shits all at the same time. It was terrible!! A number or factors could play into this though (type of protein, enzymes, rest of diet, other supplements, etc) so it's hard to pin-point it directly on the protein but the manufacturer themselves usually tell you not to use it as your main source of protein.

If anything I think the protein powders will make your diet more toxic then cleaning it up. Have you considered swapping red meat for seafood for a while? What about turkey?

Thanks bro

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03-03-2014, 01:07 PM

Mccringleberry

I find I get a lot of my protein from shakes because my job has me running around like a one legged man in an ass kicking contest most of the time. I still like to mix it up and eat eggs (I prefer eggs from chickens fed flax seeds for the omegas) with Ezekiel bread in the morning along with some oatmeal. I also love Chik-Fil-A too much to stop eating chicken and steak is almost a religion tome.

I don't like the vegan idea at all because it is an extreme lifestyle if followed as intended (no animal products at all) and the vegans I know piss me off sometimes because 1-they ram itdown your throat 2-tell you what a pos you are for eating decaying carcasses 3-Most of them look like Mr. Burns from The Simpsons. Plus Whey is an animal by-product so no whey for a true vegan.

I realize this is a huge over generalization and some 300 # monster vegan power lifter is going to prove me wrong but I can only go by what I see.

I think if it's for health reasons and you do things in moderation you'll have a lot more options and will get all the micronutrients you might not get with just whey protein. I think you'remaking an assumption that your health is being affected by meat butis it reflected in anything? Like your blood work or something like that?

There are a lot of nutritionists that specialize in working with lifters. The one I used taught me more about what I was doing to sabotage myself then any forum or web page could. It was not expensive and I noticed a huge difference in how I felt and performed.

This is just my .02.

03-03-2014, 01:17 PM

Daimonos

are u concerned about your arteries?man, do a blood test and see your colesterol levels.u can drop your red meat intake,add some fish,turkey,lean pork.
don't know if a vegan diet is really cleaning

03-03-2014, 01:39 PM

caedus

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Originally Posted by Daimonos

are u concerned about your arteries?man, do a blood test and see your colesterol levels.u can drop your red meat intake,add some fish,turkey,lean pork.
don't know if a vegan diet is really cleaning

Good points dudes

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03-03-2014, 02:44 PM

heavylifting1

If you are going to use only whey look into what meat has to offer (besides calories) that whey can't and supplement yourself with that. I have never done that I eat whole food protein at every single meal including my first meal of the day along with a whey shake. Its just been like that and always has.

03-03-2014, 03:02 PM

13bret

I fucking eat vegans. They taste real good because of the wholesome diet.

03-03-2014, 03:05 PM

caedus

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Originally Posted by heavylifting1

If you are going to use only whey look into what meat has to offer (besides calories) that whey can't and supplement yourself with that. I have never done that I eat whole food protein at every single meal including my first meal of the day along with a whey shake. Its just been like that and always has.

I fucking eat vegans. They taste real good because of the wholesome diet.

Awesome...just thought it could be a way to cut

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03-03-2014, 04:17 PM

Daimonos

protein powders are not healtier,if u think...whey was a a waste,many years ago.it's processed food.
I'm the last person to suggest u how to cut,but maybe u can eat lean protein,as I say fish,turkey,etc,a lot of veggies,I love raw veggies.
and seems my body prefers real food and not powders.of course I use em when I'm at work,but if I can I eat real stuff ;)
and go get a blood test!!!

03-03-2014, 05:08 PM

Ainanalu

To help cut and get in all the raw veggies imaginable buy a Neutra bullet the thing is amazing you can seriously liquefy all the vegetables you could ever imagine trying to eat and just drink them down so easily my favorite combination is about 60% spinach and Kayle and then 40% flaxseed meal pineapple grapefruit sometimes and asparagus and lots of berries like BlackBerries blueberries strawberries the shakes are amazing and it makes it very easy to consume 8 to 10 servings of fresh raw vegetables and fruit a day. Where is my favorite ways to get my protein is the turkey burgers you can buy at Cosco extremely cheap almost no fat at all and a time of good lean protein

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03-03-2014, 05:22 PM

13bret

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Originally Posted by Ainanalu

To help cut and get in all the raw veggies imaginable buy a Neutra bullet the thing is amazing you can seriously liquefy all the vegetables you could ever imagine trying to eat and just drink them down so easily my favorite combination is about 60% spinach and Kayle and then 40% flaxseed meal pineapple grapefruit sometimes and asparagus and lots of berries like BlackBerries blueberries strawberries the shakes are amazing and it makes it very easy to consume 8 to 10 servings of fresh raw vegetables and fruit a day. Where is my favorite ways to get my protein is the turkey burgers you can buy at Cosco extremely cheap almost no fat at all and a time of good lean protein

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This^^^^^
When imake a shake in my juicer i use egg whites, cottage cheese, and then bunch fruits and veggies, oatmeal. Fills me up
I second the turkey burger thing too from costco like 35g lean protein.
Eggs, fish, chicken breast, turkey burgers, greek yogart, cottage cheese are all healthy whole food proteins. Bake or grill meats w/no sauces.
And load up on cardio

03-03-2014, 05:24 PM

caedus

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Originally Posted by Daimonos

protein powders are not healtier,if u think...whey was a a waste,many years ago.it's processed food.
I'm the last person to suggest u how to cut,but maybe u can eat lean protein,as I say fish,turkey,etc,a lot of veggies,I love raw veggies.
and seems my body prefers real food and not powders.of course I use em when I'm at work,but if I can I eat real stuff ;)
and go get a blood test!!!

What type of blood work should I request? Usually get total test and cholesterol w estro etc...

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03-03-2014, 05:25 PM

caedus

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Originally Posted by Ainanalu

To help cut and get in all the raw veggies imaginable buy a Neutra bullet the thing is amazing you can seriously liquefy all the vegetables you could ever imagine trying to eat and just drink them down so easily my favorite combination is about 60% spinach and Kayle and then 40% flaxseed meal pineapple grapefruit sometimes and asparagus and lots of berries like BlackBerries blueberries strawberries the shakes are amazing and it makes it very easy to consume 8 to 10 servings of fresh raw vegetables and fruit a day. Where is my favorite ways to get my protein is the turkey burgers you can buy at Cosco extremely cheap almost no fat at all and a time of good lean protein