RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest

Rachel, thank you very much. Kassie, my daugter, is not severley autistic. She
doesn't sit in a corner rocking continuously; she is not high-functioning either,
her language is limited to a few words and the rare phrase. She is four.

The hardest thing about autism is that many kids appear to be developing normally and
even show exceptional skills. Kassie knew all the letters of the alphabet by 18
months, and would enliven Scrabble contests by looking at the tiles on the racks,
and saying exuberantly, "Got the Q", or
"Got the X" when it appeared. Then almost overnight those skills vanish. Some
immediately, others evanesce, but they too fade to nothing.

I am lucky enough to work for at a very supportive organization, and live in one of
the best school districts in the country. Kassie has been in a in home applied
behavior analysis program for about a year, and speech therapy for a few months. Her
smiles have become much more frequent, she is one again learning, albeit slowly. She
will start attending a special district preschool later this month.

You have my sympathies for your struggles. And my respect for how you seem
to be dealing with them. My husband was a hemophiliac. Just living with that
as an adult was hard. To live with a genetic disorder in a child must be
infinitely harder. I have an enormous respect for my mother-in-law who
raised such a child and did not wrap him in cotton-wool, "in case he got
hurt".

You are in CA, where you can get a much better assortment of
non-store-bought produce than I can here in NYC, although I tend to frequent
the greenmarkets and try to buy what is in season when I buy in stores. Even
then, store-bought doesn't taste as good as fresh-picked. I have converted
one person at work to never eating store-bought strawberries again, he tried
some from the greenmarket when they were in season and was convinced.

Rachel

>From: "MacGregor, Ian A." <ian_at_SLAC.Stanford.EDU>>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>>Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest>Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:15:35 -0800>>So where do I get my woolly mammoth steaks. What was the life expectancy >of early hominids? I don't know about Maine Blue Berries, but wild >blueberries in Nova Scotia are just as sweet if not sweeter than the store >bought ones.>>Where in a reputable peer-reviewed journal can one find an article store >bought food is less nutritious than wild food. The purpose of fruit is to >be eaten, the seeds passing through the digestive system intact to be >planted with a little fertilizer. The sweeter the fruit, the more animals >are attracted, the greater chance of the plant dispersing its progeny.>>As far as I can tell taste takes a second seat to looks with commercial >produce. Produce is picked before its time so it can be transported >unbruised. It doesn't taste as good as the stuff off a backyard tree.>>>My daughter is autistic. We have her on a cassein and gluten free diet. >It seems to have done her some good; her attentiveness has increased and >her perserveration has dropped. My wife swears it has; I lean more towards >non-casual coincidence, but I don't want to give her bread pudding in case >I'm wrong. You won't believe how many things have gluten and cassein. >Gluten is not naturally found in corn, but it's in corn flakes. Most soy >cheeses have cassein in them so they melt like dairy cheeses. It is very >difficult to keep on such a diet, taking all grains out of the diet would >be harder still.>>Autism is a multi-genetic disorder; i.e, more than one gene is involved. >Latest evidence is that the genes express themselves about the first month >of pregnancy. In the future it will be detectable via amniocentesis, much >like trisomy 13 is today. For a parent it becomes noticeable somewhere >between 15 months and two years.>>So what does this have to do with cassein and gluten. There are >double-blind studies which indicate some children do better on such a >diet.>>>I like to think the experience has made me a better person. Before, when a >developmentally-disabled child walked into a room I'd act like the kid was >contagious.>>>Ian MacGregor>Stanford Linear Accelerator Center>ian_at_slac.stanford.edu>>>>>>>-----Original Message----->Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:12 PM>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L>>>http://www.healingcrow.com/dietsmain/paleo/paleo.html>>-----Original Message----->Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:36 PM>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L>>>Blah, I did not work my way to the top of the food chain to be a >vegatarian.>>"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if>both are frozen.">>Christopher R. 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