Heretic! Infidel! Heathen!
Nah, I agree, partially, the combat was beh, AI kinda stupid.
But the story and the conspiracy setting caught me from the start.
Just like 1984

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FTR.. I was trolling back at you

I didn't enjoy the game, couldn't care to finish it.. but I'd never say it's a bad, boring game. It's just not for me and I know how to make the difference between this and a bad game, unlike "some" people

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Well, I apologize for emphasizing that it is my impression and mine only,
I am aware that many people like that game, and that's why I tried many times to get into it,
It is clear that the game is very polished, just not to my liking

I think the industry has been making shitty games and great games in equal measure since the days of Atari 2600...

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I think so too,
I think that the people that say that modern day graphics destroyed the industry, and that in the past there were better games are just wrong
And even so, people will keep saying that for years to come

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One of the few things that bothered me this generation was the lack of traditional turn based rpg's. Yes, some were released and a few were great, but it is disappointing the gaming industry has more or less gone in a new direction and abandoned it. Ni No Kuni has brought back a lot memories from the Super Nintendo, PS1 and PS2. Maybe the gaming industry will return to the decent production of turn based rpg's in the next generation of gaming. Have my fingers crossed...

The point I was trying to make was that games are definitely getting better and better.. some (read very few) games remained classics over the years and for the most part, the newest games are better than the old ones. As Vega said, nostalgia is seriously overrated.. too many people don't even realize it. If games weren't getting better, why the hell would we buy new consoles? Why wouldn't MP freaks stick with CounterStrike?

The "problem" is that the standard is much higher than it ever was.. it kept getting higher and higher. And it's getting harder to raise the bar and bring something new to the table.

People ask for better stories.. are they saying Zelda's story was better than Mass Effect? Wait... they probably are.. whatever.

I think the industry has been making shitty games and great games in equal measure since the days of Atari 2600...

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I think so too,
I think that the people that say that modern day graphics destroyed the industry, and that in the past there were better games are just wrong
And even so, people will keep saying that for years to come

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One of the few things that bothered me this generation was the lack of traditional turn based rpg's. Yes, some were released and a few were great, but it is disappointing the gaming industry has more or less gone in a new direction and abandoned it. Ni No Kuni has brought back a lot memories from the Super Nintendo, PS1 and PS2. Maybe the gaming industry will return to the decent production of turn based rpg's in the next generation of gaming. Have my fingers crossed...

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One of the reasons I used to love FFX so much...I could take all the time in the world to consider a strategy
Truly missed, the FFX remake is the only hope left

The point I was trying to make was that games are definitely getting better and better.. some (read very few) games remained classics over the years and for the most part, the newest games are better than the old ones. As Vega said, nostalgia is seriously overrated.. too many people don't even realize it. If games weren't getting better, why the hell would we buy new consoles? Why wouldn't MP freaks stick with CounterStrike?

The "problem" is that the standard is much higher than it ever was.. it kept getting higher and higher. And it's getting harder to raise the bar and bring something new to the table.

People ask for better stories.. are they saying Zelda's story was better than Mass Effect? Wait... they probably are.. whatever.

This past generation has definitely been filled with some amazing games but I feel like up until recently there has been many neglected aspects of the game. For example, I feel like The Last of Us and Bioshock Infinite were two amazing games that focused on some things other games don't. Voice acting was amazing in both games and a better story line that actually allowed for a better connection to the characters.
My point is this: because of games like the two I mentioned, among many others I didn't, do you guys think that games will only get better knowing that the standard has been raised? I don't think I can enjoy games in the future that don't do a better job at smaller details anymore because the potential is not being fulfilled. Just my opinion and it'd be cool to see what you all think

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I also like The Last of Us Multiplayer Gameplay University. I know that everyone does. I think that if you haven't played it yet, try checking this amazing review.

Here's the Amazing Review of The Last of Us Multiplayer Gameplay University.

No. I don't see developers saying: "Oh man...did you see what Naughty Dog did? Those bastards! Now we are gonna have to write a masterpiece, work on our flawed gameplay, level design and hire some awesome voice actors and an Oscar-nominee composer!"

ive been expecting great characters and character performances since Heavenly Sword in 2007. you better be crazy fun if you dont have that.

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I never played it! Is it really that good?

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i think its pretty good considering it was released in 2007. it gets a bad rep for being short and much of it being able to be beaten without really exploring the moveset and blocking/parrying mechanics and then getting difficult at the final boss (which woudnt be if you actually had explored the moveset and blocking/parrying mechanics).

it has some interesting characters, has great character performances with voice acting and facial mo-cap that rivals even best you've seen all gen, and contains some of the best sixaxis use that ive seen (once you get the hang of it). to me, it was the 1st "next-gen" game.

ive been expecting great characters and character performances since Heavenly Sword in 2007. you better be crazy fun if you dont have that.

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I never played it! Is it really that good?

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i think its pretty good considering it was released in 2007. it gets a bad rep for being short and much of it being able to be beaten without really exploring the moveset and blocking/parrying mechanics and then getting difficult at the final boss (which woudnt be if you actually had explored the moveset and blocking/parrying mechanics).

it has some interesting characters, has great character performances with voice acting and facial mo-cap that rivals even best you've seen all gen, and contains some of the best sixaxis use that ive seen (once you get the hang of it). to me, it was the 1st "next-gen" game.

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I second the sixaxis fun, aiming the arrows with the controller was hell of a ride

In all things in life... If you take time and nurture something, take better care and spend extra attention to detail to something specific, you get a better result. Same thing goes toward the development process of video games. But there are a lot of factors that go into the process, like a budget.--A lot of times developers simply can't do what they want because they don't have the money. Then there are the publishers bullying the devs... and then there is the skill of the actual devs... and then there are the artistic minds of the devs that sometimes can make a great experience, but other times it boggs down the gameplay experience with cool ideas that just aren't fun.

So I doubt games will get better in this aspect. There will still be cookie cut-outs. Still be imaginative pieces of artistic crap. And still be big budget AAA titles. The only thing this gen that will change is the size, scope and limitations of lat gen's hardware. With this, we will get games thatr let devs explore new ways to do things entirely or just new ways to do things that already work well. We'll be sure to see some awesome new applications and sure to see some retarded crap that looks good on paper but not on screen, lol.

What we're going to see is the redefining of the term 'game world'. Instead of a simulated where you can do as you please with what's there, that world will be shared by numerous players enjoying their solo experiences...together...while being able to interact with each other simultaneously. Something like The Division is only the beginning of that approach for consoles...

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I sincerely hope this doesn't become the standard though and instead remains an option, like multiplayer in general is today, but hearing some of these developers talk makes it seem that this is what they see for the future of the industry which honestly scares me because when it comes to video games i'm about as anti-social as it gets, i'm still very much exclusively a single player or local multiplayer person and i'd really like to still have the option of playing games that way when all is said and done.

ive been expecting great characters and character performances since Heavenly Sword in 2007. you better be crazy fun if you dont have that.

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I never played it! Is it really that good?

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i think its pretty good considering it was released in 2007. it gets a bad rep for being short and much of it being able to be beaten without really exploring the moveset and blocking/parrying mechanics and then getting difficult at the final boss (which woudnt be if you actually had explored the moveset and blocking/parrying mechanics).

it has some interesting characters, has great character performances with voice acting and facial mo-cap that rivals even best you've seen all gen, and contains some of the best sixaxis use that ive seen (once you get the hang of it). to me, it was the 1st "next-gen" game.

This past generation has definitely been filled with some amazing games but I feel like up until recently there has been many neglected aspects of the game. For example, I feel like The Last of Us and Bioshock Infinite were two amazing games that focused on some things other games don't. Voice acting was amazing in both games and a better story line that actually allowed for a better connection to the characters.
My point is this: because of games like the two I mentioned, among many others I didn't, do you guys think that games will only get better knowing that the standard has been raised? I don't think I can enjoy games in the future that don't do a better job at smaller details anymore because the potential is not being fulfilled. Just my opinion and it'd be cool to see what you all think

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I'm gonna actually say no. The reason why is games like that might be awesome but they die quick. bioshock is only what like 3-4 months old, could win GOTY yet nobody talks about it or plays it anymore. Games with addicting MP is what makes a game last. look at ME3. great story, great voice acting, great combat, great graphics. everything you wan from a game. but they added in a tacked on MP. and for some reason it was awesome and addicting. now 16 months after its release people are still playing it. it even had 5 free DLCs. SP only games or SP games with bad MP won't last. so it sin't worth it for companies to dump lots of money into games like bioshock. gaming will shift towards teh point where every game has MP and only the ones with good MP will survive. that and MMO style games. even elder scrolls is going MMO. people want' to be social and they want to face real enemies not AI. no AI can ever replace a human player. thats the future of gaming. SP only games are gonna die off. i'm already seeing it

Haven't played Last of Us yet. But I thought Bioshock Infinite was not an amazing game by any means.

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I really personally enjoyed it and thought it was definitely a GOTY candidate. I guess I don't mean to specific on which games I'm talking about, it could be subjective

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I don't think Infinite is a bad game. I just thought it got kind of repetitive gameplay wise. I also like the plasmids/salts much better in the original. Although I did enjoy the twist at the ending of the game, and the world they created is really cool.

I don't think Infinite is a bad game. I just thought it got kind of repetitive gameplay wise. I also like the plasmids/salts much better in the original. Although I did enjoy the twist at the ending of the game, and the world they created is really cool.

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I think Columbia really sold me! It was so innovative and different like all Bioshock games. The story was cool and I think characters/ voice acting was pretty great too

As long as we get away from the FPS fetish then yeah gaming will continue to grow and expand and become better.

The FPS genre is almost like the side-scroller genre. It got real popular real fast, every developer in the world thought they HAD to make a game like that, and now it has grown pretty stale and we need to move on.

Seems, on the PS4 anyway, the next big thing will be open world games. With all this RAM in the PS4, I think we will 1have a ton of open world titles. I for one cannot wait to see what they can do with Just Cause 3 and I really want them to make a new Mercenaries game. Freakin loved Mercenaries 2. We already have open world Metal Gear, open world The Witcher, open world Watch Dogs, open world Infamous, etc.

I really, really, really, really want to see Level 5 just go balls out and make a full open world Skyrim type world but in their own JRPG style. Oh man. Would love that.

And I think the game that could easily fit that world would be Dark Cloud. I WANT MY NEXT GEN DARK CLOUD!!! I know Level 5 is already working on their PS4 title and will likely show it at TGS, I just want it to be dark cloud 3. I would not mind, at all, another Ni No Kuni or new IP from the guys, but I played the hell out of Dark Cloud.

As long as we get away from the FPS fetish then yeah gaming will continue to grow and expand and become better.

The FPS genre is almost like the side-scroller genre. It got real popular real fast, every developer in the world thought they HAD to make a game like that, and now it has grown pretty stale and we need to move on.

Seems, on the PS4 anyway, the next big thing will be open world games. With all this RAM in the PS4, I think we will 1have a ton of open world titles. I for one cannot wait to see what they can do with Just Cause 3 and I really want them to make a new Mercenaries game. Freakin loved Mercenaries 2. We already have open world Metal Gear, open world The Witcher, open world Watch Dogs, open world Infamous, etc.

I really, really, really, really want to see Level 5 just go balls out and make a full open world Skyrim type world but in their own JRPG style. Oh man. Would love that.

And I think the game that could easily fit that world would be Dark Cloud. I WANT MY NEXT GEN DARK CLOUD!!! I know Level 5 is already working on their PS4 title and will likely show it at TGS, I just want it to be dark cloud 3. I would not mind, at all, another Ni No Kuni or new IP from the guys, but I played the hell out of Dark Cloud.

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depends on the future in your eyes. I think the future of games is in competitive MP and MMO. basically the future is making games more social. allowing you to play with friends. I odn't think SP campaign games are the future. open world games can be but only as MMO which the consoles should be able to do much better now with the new hardware they are boasting. I don't see games like GTA, saints row, far cry, just cause, etc as the future. they seem more like a fad from the PS2 days that will fade off. they don't sell very good and alot of franhcises fell off. FPS aren't going anywhere. CoD has over 150 million in sales battlefield and halo are both over 50 million. No open world game is close to that.

depends on the future in your eyes. I think the future of games is in competitive MP and MMO. basically the future is making games more social. allowing you to play with friends. I odn't think SP campaign games are the future. open world games can be but only as MMO which the consoles should be able to do much better now with the new hardware they are boasting. I don't see games like GTA, saints row, far cry, just cause, etc as the future. they seem more like a fad from the PS2 days that will fade off. they don't sell very good and alot of franhcises fell off. FPS aren't going anywhere. CoD has over 150 million in sales battlefield and halo are both over 50 million. No open world game is close to that.

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I agree with the CoD and FPS but I disagree with the single player aspect. I don't think that's going anywhere and it'll only continue to get better since there are more tools and the disposal of developers. I personally have lost interest in pm since most are just cookie cutter copies of CoD and other FPS. But games like The Division and Destiny are definitely the future because they appeal to everyone whether your taste is SP or MP. That way they don't limit themselves and still deliver a great game.
In terms of games being more social, I agree but not with MP. I have almost never talked to anyone in a MP match because it's different than Xbox live (I've had both). The more social experience will come from games that you can run into people and join up together randomly. That requires communication, thus creating a more social atmosphere. But that's my opinion of course

I think your massively overstating the sales of CoD. Games like grand theft auto has sold a ton more the. Call of duty over the years. No game series has sold in the hundreds of millions yet besides super Mario series. Halo sold about as well as gran Turismo back in the day.

Call of Duty is up there with Mario and such but god knows why lol. Halo is in then 50 million range which makes it far below gran Turismo, grand theft auto, dragon quest, final fantasy, Tetris, etc. the highest selling of all time is of course the Mario series with nearly 200 mill. Cod just broke 100 mill as a series.

But yeah single player games will never die, an if I was forced to play with others anytime I wanted to relax to enjoy a game, that would be when i quit gaming.

Here is the current last

Mario 247 million
Pokemon 219 million
The sims 150 million
Grand theft auto 125 millio
Tetris 125 million
Final fantasy 102 million
Call of duty 100 million
FIFA 100 million
Need for speed 100 million

I agree with the CoD and FPS but I disagree with the single player aspect. I don't think that's going anywhere and it'll only continue to get better since there are more tools and the disposal of developers. I personally have lost interest in pm since most are just cookie cutter copies of CoD and other FPS. But games like The Division and Destiny are definitely the future because they appeal to everyone whether your taste is SP or MP. That way they don't limit themselves and still deliver a great game.
In terms of games being more social, I agree but not with MP. I have almost never talked to anyone in a MP match because it's different than Xbox live (I've had both). The more social experience will come from games that you can run into people and join up together randomly. That requires communication, thus creating a more social atmosphere. But that's my opinion of course

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the division is an MMO and while desitny is not an MMO per-se its kinda like borderlands 2 with MMO elements. so it agrees with social. and the PS4 is getting a social upgrade al well so i still see it as the future. but yes there will always be a group of gamers who prefer SP games. nothing wrong with it, i just see the industry moving from it. I love fallout and elder scrolls and even elder scrolls is going MMO now. its conosles cathcing up to PC with their WoW craze

the division is an MMO and while desitny is not an MMO per-se its kinda like borderlands 2 with MMO elements. so it agrees with social. and the PS4 is getting a social upgrade al well so i still see it as the future. but yes there will always be a group of gamers who prefer SP games. nothing wrong with it, i just see the industry moving from it. I love fallout and elder scrolls and even elder scrolls is going MMO now. its conosles cathcing up to PC with their WoW craze

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Yeah I definitely see that with newer games coming out which is cool, but until they come out with a game that has a completely different MP things will stay the same. The new elder scrolls might help but better executed MP needs to happen too. But you're right about ps4 becoming more social and I guess time will tell

Haven't played Last of Us yet. But I thought Bioshock Infinite was not an amazing game by any means.

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I really personally enjoyed it and thought it was definitely a GOTY candidate. I guess I don't mean to specific on which games I'm talking about, it could be subjective

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I don't think Infinite is a bad game. I just thought it got kind of repetitive gameplay wise. I also like the plasmids/salts much better in the original. Although I did enjoy the twist at the ending of the game, and the world they created is really cool.

I think your massively overstating the sales of CoD. Games like grand theft auto has sold a ton more the. Call of duty over the years. No game series has sold in the hundreds of millions yet besides super Mario series. Halo sold about as well as gran Turismo back in the day.

Call of Duty is up there with Mario and such but god knows why lol. Halo is in then 50 million range which makes it far below gran Turismo, grand theft auto, dragon quest, final fantasy, Tetris, etc. the highest selling of all time is of course the Mario series with nearly 200 mill. Cod just broke 100 mill as a series.

But yeah single player games will never die, an if I was forced to play with others anytime I wanted to relax to enjoy a game, that would be when i quit gaming.

Here is the current last

Mario 247 million
Pokemon 219 million
The sims 150 million
Grand theft auto 125 millio
Tetris 125 million
Final fantasy 102 million
Call of duty 100 million
FIFA 100 million
Need for speed 100 million