Questions for Pro-life...

From:
Aditch

To: h8terade

Posted: Jul-20 12:35 PM (82 of 1014)

"I'd implore everyone that thinks abortion is A-OK and that it is the
"mothers choice" to google "abortion survivors". Read their stories.
Then tell me if youcould look them in the eye today and tell them
you still stand behind their birth mothers choice to try to murder them."

My personal opinion is that abortion should only be allowed in the first trimester for non medical reason abortions. There are no abortion survivors who were born at 13 weeks.

"I'd implore everyone that thinks abortion is A-OK and that it is the
"mothers choice" to google "abortion survivors". Read their stories.
Then tell me if youcould look them in the eye today and tell them
you still stand behind their birth mothers choice to try to murder them."

My personal opinion is that abortion should only be allowed in the first trimester for non medical reason abortions. There are no abortion survivors who were born at 13 weeks.

I will always believe that a woman has a choice. No amount of making me feel guilty for my beliefs or showing me sad stories is going to change my mind.

I really don't understand how you can go from being so close to having an abortion that you're outside the building, to saying that all women who have abortions are murderers.Â What about those women who were in your same shoes, but were in a worse situation than you are and that's what gave them that last push to go in the building and do what they came there for? I think you're being a bit ridiculous.Â

I will always believe that a woman has a choice. No amount of making me feel guilty for my beliefs or showing me sad stories is going to change my mind.

I really don't understand how you can go from being so close to having an abortion that you're outside the building, to saying that all women who have abortions are murderers.Â What about those women who were in your same shoes, but were in a worse situation than you are and that's what gave them that last push to go in the building and do what they came there for? I think you're being a bit ridiculous.Â

Ok, I don't know how to reply to all on this new format, but I am asking this to all who believe abortion is wrong in every case.

What about the 12 or 13 year old girl being raped by an adult (maybe a caregiver or family member) and then becomes pregnant. She doesn't realize she is pregnant for a few months, maybe because she doesn't know her body that well yet. At any rate, she goes to the clinic and finds out she is 13 weeks pregnant. No charges have been filed against the father, so there is no proof of rape yet. Does she deserve to be MADE to have this child? Even with the devastating consequences it can have on her physically and mentally?

In my opinion, hell no!

My point is, you have no clue what the circumstances are, and if they are 'good' enough or not. I have never had an abortion, and I don't want to ever be in a situation where that is the option I chose. However, I believe I deserve that option.

Ok, I don't know how to reply to all on this new format, but I am asking this to all who believe abortion is wrong in every case.

What about the 12 or 13 year old girl being raped by an adult (maybe a caregiver or family member) and then becomes pregnant. She doesn't realize she is pregnant for a few months, maybe because she doesn't know her body that well yet. At any rate, she goes to the clinic and finds out she is 13 weeks pregnant. No charges have been filed against the father, so there is no proof of rape yet. Does she deserve to be MADE to have this child? Even with the devastating consequences it can have on her physically and mentally?

In my opinion, hell no!

My point is, you have no clue what the circumstances are, and if they are 'good' enough or not. I have never had an abortion, and I don't want to ever be in a situation where that is the option I chose. However, I believe I deserve that option.

"You as well are denying advancements in medicine. No where near 1 in
40 women die in childbirth now a days. Let me say this slowly:
Your-arguments-make-no-sense! You are saying my belief that women
shouldn't terminate their pregnancies belongs during a time when they
didn't commonly practice abortions and maternal death rates where
higher? Why wouldn't it make more sense for my beliefs in this day and
age with all the medical advancements that have significantly decreased
the maternal death rate?"

I can't, I just don't know why I try anymore...you have made slave, ugly people, and crazy neighbor analogies and I'M the one who doesn't make sense? I think you should read the all the responses to your posts, it's clear who makes sense and who doesn't. Again, you have stated that a pregnant mother has no right to medical intervention if her life is in danger if it would harm the fetus or terminate the pregnancy. If everyone still thought this way, we very well could have a higher mortality rate in childbirth. I gave you the middle ages stat because I find you obsolete, outmoded, and old-fashioned.

And no, your belief still wouldn't make sense (again, refer to pp responses to your posts) because you are saying that even if the mother would die for the sake of her fetus, you still don't think it is right to save the life of the already viable human.

"You as well are denying advancements in medicine. No where near 1 in
40 women die in childbirth now a days. Let me say this slowly:
Your-arguments-make-no-sense! You are saying my belief that women
shouldn't terminate their pregnancies belongs during a time when they
didn't commonly practice abortions and maternal death rates where
higher? Why wouldn't it make more sense for my beliefs in this day and
age with all the medical advancements that have significantly decreased
the maternal death rate?"

I can't, I just don't know why I try anymore...you have made slave, ugly people, and crazy neighbor analogies and I'M the one who doesn't make sense? I think you should read the all the responses to your posts, it's clear who makes sense and who doesn't. Again, you have stated that a pregnant mother has no right to medical intervention if her life is in danger if it would harm the fetus or terminate the pregnancy. If everyone still thought this way, we very well could have a higher mortality rate in childbirth. I gave you the middle ages stat because I find you obsolete, outmoded, and old-fashioned.

And no, your belief still wouldn't make sense (again, refer to pp responses to your posts) because you are saying that even if the mother would die for the sake of her fetus, you still don't think it is right to save the life of the already viable human.

I'm one of those black and white people. I don't believe that abortion is okay at all... including if the child is a result of rape, will have physical deformities, etc.

One person asked how we feel about Birth Control and day after pill. I don't like those either. I took birth control for two years for a period problem and after learning that it was a form of abortion, I changed my birth control method.

But I firmly believe that a person is a person at conception, so I don't think it's a bunch of cells just hanging out there.

As far as a mother who is going to die if the child doesn't. There are soooo many different scenarios to this. I would take it case-by-case basis. I knew of a mother who was diagnosed with cancer while pregnant. Doctors advised her to abort her baby and start treatment. She chose to carry the child and start treatment later and eventually died. But she didn't have a good prognosis to begin with. To her, it was more important to leave a part of her for her husband than to abort and potentially die anyways.

I'm not sure how I feel about if both would die anyways. Especially when you have more children to raise and they need a mother. I think it's important to get a second or third opinion on medical issues to make sure your abortion is necessary for your health and the baby has no chance of survival.

I guess I see it as if you already had a child and you needed to make informed decisions on what to do with their medical treatment if they had a life-threatening disease. It wouldn't be an easy choice for me whatsoever.

Whew okay here I go... (Putting my flame suit on)

I'm one of those black and white people. I don't believe that abortion is okay at all... including if the child is a result of rape, will have physical deformities, etc.

One person asked how we feel about Birth Control and day after pill. I don't like those either. I took birth control for two years for a period problem and after learning that it was a form of abortion, I changed my birth control method.

But I firmly believe that a person is a person at conception, so I don't think it's a bunch of cells just hanging out there.

As far as a mother who is going to die if the child doesn't. There are soooo many different scenarios to this. I would take it case-by-case basis. I knew of a mother who was diagnosed with cancer while pregnant. Doctors advised her to abort her baby and start treatment. She chose to carry the child and start treatment later and eventually died. But she didn't have a good prognosis to begin with. To her, it was more important to leave a part of her for her husband than to abort and potentially die anyways.

I'm not sure how I feel about if both would die anyways. Especially when you have more children to raise and they need a mother. I think it's important to get a second or third opinion on medical issues to make sure your abortion is necessary for your health and the baby has no chance of survival.

I guess I see it as if you already had a child and you needed to make informed decisions on what to do with their medical treatment if they had a life-threatening disease. It wouldn't be an easy choice for me whatsoever.

I'm not offended by your jabs. I would be proud to make my husband a pie. I have not burned my bra. I love my husband and have no problem doing nice things for him. As I've said before you can try to sling your "insults" all you want, but I will sleep fine tonight because I am not the one defendig a mother killing her child :)

I'm not offended by your jabs. I would be proud to make my husband a pie. I have not burned my bra. I love my husband and have no problem doing nice things for him. As I've said before you can try to sling your "insults" all you want, but I will sleep fine tonight because I am not the one defendig a mother killing her child :)

Would you continue a pregnancy if you were having an ectopic pregnancy? Changes are very high that you and the baby will die. No, it isn't 100% certain, more like 95% chance.I don't think you can say for certain that you would absolutely continue the pregnancy if you were in that situation.

Would you continue a pregnancy if you were having an ectopic pregnancy? Changes are very high that you and the baby will die. No, it isn't 100% certain, more like 95% chance.I don't think you can say for certain that you would absolutely continue the pregnancy if you were in that situation.

A baby is alive when implantation has occurred. You must at least admit that it is alive. I don't understand the argument of "It is an organism up until this point, and then its a baby." It may be a very underdeveloped baby, but its a baby non the less. How do you determine when it is a human being and no longer a group of cells? A baby's heart starts beating at 5 weeks. For you to just kill anything outside the uterus with a heartbeat its considered murder (whether of a human or animal). But its okay for a women to kill her unborn baby out of convenience?

A baby is alive when implantation has occurred. You must at least admit that it is alive. I don't understand the argument of "It is an organism up until this point, and then its a baby." It may be a very underdeveloped baby, but its a baby non the less. How do you determine when it is a human being and no longer a group of cells? A baby's heart starts beating at 5 weeks. For you to just kill anything outside the uterus with a heartbeat its considered murder (whether of a human or animal). But its okay for a women to kill her unborn baby out of convenience?

My personal view is similar, I believe life starts at conception. I have never been on BC pill, I never will for many reasons and I have not taken the morning after pill. Abortion is not a choice I could make. If I was having an ectopic pregnancy, or my life was at risk, I would probably in that case.

However, all of those are my personal decisions. My stance on abortion and when life starts shouldn't determine the laws. Why should I get to make personal decisions for other women? I have my own beliefs, and so does everyone else. Therefor women should always have a choice. JMO.

Well thank you for being honest.

My personal view is similar, I believe life starts at conception. I have never been on BC pill, I never will for many reasons and I have not taken the morning after pill. Abortion is not a choice I could make. If I was having an ectopic pregnancy, or my life was at risk, I would probably in that case.

However, all of those are my personal decisions. My stance on abortion and when life starts shouldn't determine the laws. Why should I get to make personal decisions for other women? I have my own beliefs, and so does everyone else. Therefor women should always have a choice. JMO.

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