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NW Broadcasting, owner of KCYU, my local FOX net station here in Central Washington State,
has removed their channel from DiSH (as of yesterday). Somehow, I sort of have been waiting for KCYU to do that. Just seems that FOX is the station that seems to cause the most problems.

Makes me wish that when I had originally gone with a 722k I had insisted on an OTA module

We are very sorry for the frustration this has caused you. DISH has offered to pay the same rate as our competitors, but Northwest has rejected that offer, demanding more. We hope to reach an agreement as soon as possible.

You're welcome! I can completely understand that. If I had to miss a Bronco game it would hurt me as well! lol Hopefully we can come to a resolution soon so you won't have to be without it. We appreciate your patience.

If you have an antenna just run the cable to the RF input on the back of your TV. If you are close enough to the antenna tower even rabbit ears will work. That is what I have as a back up in case of bad weather if Dish goes out

If you have an antenna just run the cable to the RF input on the back of your TV. If you are close enough to the antenna tower even rabbit ears will work. That is what I have as a back up in case of bad weather if Dish goes out

already ahead of ya We're in a valley & our OTA channels come off a low power translator and are pretty weak, so I also had to get a 10db inline amplifier (I'm sure if I had put up a decent outdoor antenna this wouldn't have been necessary). Found an old set of wabbit ears in my tool shed, and by 'aiming' them I could either pick up the other ota signals or turn a bit and get the Fox station. Funny-another fox affiliate (KCPQ Seattle/Tacoma) is also ota via translator here and gives me a bit stronger signal than KCYU does.

Long story short-I now have two fox stations on my living room tv (actually 3-there is one 'substation' that isn't available from Dish), but no dvr service for them. No biggie, I can live without that for just that one network

Ironic-while aiming my ears, one of the first things to come up was a DiSH commercial LOL

When I had my 922 installed a couple of years ago, I requested the OTA module. When the tech arrived he didn't have it so while the 922 was doing all of it's downloads and activating everything he ran back to the shop and grabbed one. The installer took it off the bill because he missed it the first time

He also handed me an extra remote antenna like I have on my 222 and suggested I try using that for the OTA. I did and it works great for me! I am missing NBC, but get all the rest of the locals, so it was never really worth the effort to get a different antenna

I'm having the same issue here in the Binghamton NY area. Our local Fox station went off yesterday. However, Dish carries the locals here only in SD and some of them (NBC in particular) have such poor picture quality that they are basically unwatchable. I have the OTA tuner module in my receiver and use it for Fox and CBS, the only two channels I can get in my location with an antenna. I assumed I had nothing to worry about with the fox outage.

Today I found that even though I'm still receiving the Fox signal over the air, the guide data has been replaced by a notice that the station has been pulled. That has killed all my DVR programming for the channel. I don't watch much on Fox, but losing the guide is a real pain. Is there a way to fix that or do I need to take other measures?

That depends on your model of DVR - some of them will let you set manual timers (select channel, start time, duration) - in that case - using a source like titantv.com will get you a reasonable guide for your shows. If they won't let you do the manual timers - you can at least watch them live. Some of the digital converter boxes (at least the Dish ones) will show you guide.

These are the same channels affected by a Northwest Broadcasting and DirecTV dispute that lasted a lengthy period and was finally resolved during the World Series. I'm really hating on Northwest Broadcasting! It must not be easy to work with.

Today I found that even though I'm still receiving the Fox signal over the air, the guide data has been replaced by a notice that the station has been pulled. That has killed all my DVR programming for the channel. I don't watch much on Fox, but losing the guide is a real pain. Is there a way to fix that or do I need to take other measures?

Dish has to change their policies about providing guide data for these channels. My understanding is that guide data does not come from the individual channels themselves, but a third party. It would probably weaken Dish's negotiations if the majority of their customers continued to watch the channel without a carriage agreement.

Dish has to change their policies about providing guide data for these channels. My understanding is that guide data does not come from the individual channels themselves, but a third party.

I do wish they would change their 3rd party guide data to someone who gave accurate start and stop times (e.g. a show starting at 8:31 and ending at 9:01 for which Dish's current guide data shows it starting at 8:30 and ending at 9:00.)

These are the same channels affected by a Northwest Broadcasting and DirecTV dispute that lasted a lengthy period and was finally resolved during the World Series. I'm really hating on Northwest Broadcasting! It must not be easy to work with.

When watching the Fox signal OTA KCPQ from Seattle/Tacoma, I've periodically gotten a box on my screen that 'appears' to be from Dish saying Error-801. To keep from losing you satellite signal go to www.dishnetwork.com/myaccount or call (phone # given but I haven't written it down).

Message goes away after about a minute or so. I've gotten it 3 or 4 times in the last 24 hrs that I've seen. I wonder if they're warning Dish subscribers in the Western WA area, that they could be next to lose fox.

Bear in mind-I'm getting this message when watching off an antenna signal that goes direct from the antenna to the TV (not even thru a dish receiver)

When watching the Fox signal OTA KCPQ from Seattle/Tacoma, I've periodically gotten a box on my screen that 'appears' to be from Dish saying Error-801. To keep from losing you satellite signal go to www.dishnetwork.com/myaccount or call (phone # given but I haven't written it down).

Message goes away after about a minute or so. I've gotten it 3 or 4 times in the last 24 hrs that I've seen. I wonder if they're warning Dish subscribers in the Western WA area, that they could be next to lose fox.

Bear in mind-I'm getting this message when watching off an antenna signal that goes direct from the antenna to the TV (not even thru a dish receiver)

I don't see how it would be possible to get an error message from Dish when watching an antenna signal that goes directly from the antenna to the TV, without passing through a Dish receiver.

Someone is adding it somewhereSHOOT-WISH I HAD MY CAMERA OUT IT JUST CAME UP AGAIN

Are you watching off of the main station or a repeater?

It would be an odd long shot ... but a repeater using a DISH receiver to pick up the main station via satellite??? It would mean that the station couldn't pull its signal from DISH or they would lose the repeater ...

Some small cable systems (usually private) use satellite receivers to feed their system. A station using a satellite feed of their master station would be creative.

It would be an odd long shot ... but a repeater using a DISH receiver to pick up the main station via satellite??? It would mean that the station couldn't pull its signal from DISH or they would lose the repeater ...

Some small cable systems (usually private) use satellite receivers to feed their system. A station using a satellite feed of their master station would be creative.

I actually caught a photo just before it left. I was able to post a copy of it on the Dish facebook page-tried to insert that photo here but it didn't work.

It is via a repeater (I'm assuming that's the same as what I call a translator), but bear in mind, that's not even my local fox affiliate.