ABSTINENCE ONLY EDUCATION!!! NO GRAPHIC SEX EDUCATION IN SCHOOLS!!!!
ABSTINENCE ONLY EDUCATION!!! NO GRAPHIC SEX EDUCATION IN SCHOOLS!!!!
ABSTINENCE ONLY EDUCATION!!! NO GRAPHIC SEX EDUCATION IN SCHOOLS!!!!
ABSTINENCE ONLY EDUCATION!!! NO GRAPHIC SEX EDUCATION IN SCHOOLS!!!!

oops... my 17 year-old daughter is pregnant...

This may actually be good for McCain. Isn't 17 considered a little old for the first pregnancy in some parts of red country?

Checking our reactions at the Republican Convention, I'm interested to see the Republican Party has the following message for Americans:

If you are the daughter of a well-connected, affluent mom, feel free to have unprotected, premarital sex. If you wind up pregnant, it will be a growth experience.

If, however, you have had the poor taste to be born black and poor, you would be best advised to hop on the old chastity bus, because your pregnancy will mark you as an irresponsible slut and a horrible, horrible person.

And you will have to choose between chastity and pregnancy, because birth control is evil.

They spoke of the sayings and doings of their commander, the grand duke, and told stories of his kindness and irascibility.

There's a lot of speculation that the "five months" is really "four months", and Bristol may be pregnant for the second time. The other theory is that there is no "second pregnancy", and that Bristol will have a "heartbreaking" stillbirth or miscarriage.

Not likely. But in any case she failed to give her daughter a more important choice: insist her sex partner use a condom. What if it had been AIDS instead of a pregnancy?

I have the financial resources to probably salvage* my son or daughter's childhood from a teenage pregnancy. There's no a whole lot I can do about AIDS other than pay for the cocktail and pray for the best.

* as in provide some of the experiences of young adulthood that other kids would get but they wont because they jumped directly to being parents. Probably college but it would have to be a local one. No parties, no carefree years, likely no grad school, etc. I would be really sad that my kid would have to miss some of the best years of their lives and lose many options.

If the father was under 18, and he can be and should be prosecuted for underage drinking. If he was 18, and he can be prosecuted for rape, which would be pretty disastrous for the situation.

Come on, Berg, I really think you're going over-board. "17 year-old has beer in Alaska, call the cops!" If we spent our days tracking down and prosecuting every photo of underage drinking on the internet, we'd do nothing else.

It makes you seem petty.

Additionally, on the rape thing, what is Alaska law for statutory rape? In my state, if you're old enough to drive, you're old enough to fuck.

Like some others have said, there are much better things to go on about.

Come on, Berg, I really think you're going over-board. "17 year-old has beer in Alaska, call the cops!" If we spent our days tracking down and prosecuting every photo of underage drinking on the internet, we'd do nothing else.

It makes you seem petty.

Additionally, on the rape thing, what is Alaska law for statutory rape? In my state, if you're old enough to drive, you're old enough to fuck.

Like some others have said, there are much better things to go on about.

Very true. There are much bigger things to focus on.

All of this could be nothing. Or it could be big. I hope for the former.

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Here in Japan there are tons of "Love Hotels" where the staff never see the customers. There are boxes where the money is transferred. Old enough to pay is old enough to play. Interestingly, though, teen births are quite low, the lowest in the industrialized world. I have no idea about how many abortions are conducted here.

Your = the possessive of you, as in, "Your name is Tom, right?" or "What is your name?"

You're = a contraction of YOU + ARE as in, "You are right" --> "You're right."

Can I request a sticky for this thread? I want it kept at the top of the political discussion until at least mid-November.

I think this is really a winning strategy. I think the best way to show Hillary voters that the Democratic party is where they belong is to do the following.

Take an adult woman who has broken the glass ceiling and call her a liar because a bunch of men don't think she looked fat enough while pregnant, got fat too late, her boobs aren't big enough, etc.

Take it a step further and suggest that she shouldn't be working or seeking a higher position because she should stay home and take care of that kid of hers exclusively thus forgoing her career.

Suggest that while qualified intellectually for the job that she shouldn't have it due to inexperience caused by being on the "mommy track." When the head of the other parties ticket has similar inexperience, dismiss it with appeals to intellect and charisma. Then note derisively that the female was a "snort" "beauty contestant."

Finally, and best of all, the world's greatest double standard as you continue to suggest that because a child choose not to follow her parent's personal beliefs that it makes her terrible professionally with regard to decision making.

I'm bumping this thread forever and seriously, I can't thank you all enough.

I am reporting having just been released from a reeducation camp. I am now happy to report that I am no longer concerned about the privacy concerns related to the FISA bill that President Obama voted to approve. Under his regime we now know when all 17 year olds have mono, if their boyfriends snuck a beer and finally the DNA database for all older women to confirm the lines of questioning related to possible progeny has been approved and is in the formative stages.

I would especially like to thank Andrew Sullivan for clarifying that who sticks a penis up his anus is an adult privacy concern but demanding DNA results from a grown woman is absolutely not a privacy concern.

Please resume the preferred regular behavior of tossing around baseless personal changes and innuendo. There will be no more walls around the world and the bloggers of Iran are now safe from the man who would put America First.

Can I request a sticky for this thread? I want it kept at the top of the political discussion until at least mid-November.

I think this is really a winning strategy. I think the best way to show Hillary voters that the Democratic party is where they belong is to do the following.

This is the way that you and midwinter see things here that I don't get. PO is a group of people at a small-town bar in the middle of nowhere who talk about current events over beer. We're not the DNC/RNC, we're not the media, we're not the Obama or McCain campaigns. We don't speak in talking points and press releases, we don't strategically choose our words for the effect it will have on the national stage. We talk about rumors and gossip in the same way we talk about Mac/iPod rumors or the gossip about who's pregnant in our neighborhood.