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My experiments with ForexSat, 10 Feb 2018 09:30:31 +0000en-UShourly1https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.4https://i2.wp.com/www.forexperiments.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/cropped-forexperimenti.jpg?fit=32%2C32&ssl=1Forexperiments.comhttps://www.forexperiments.com
3232113554195Thinking to the importhttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Forexperimentations/~3/bMQFnv1LoLM/thinking-to-the-import.html
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In Italy you can get this item from wholesalers for about 2.50 euro + tax

But what’s the price in China?

If you search it on Aliexpress you can find it for 2 dollars, free shipping. The shipping is very slow, it takes up to 2 months, if the post office doesn’t lose it.

If you search on Alibaba (that’s a “Wholesale Aliexpress”) you can find it for $0.90 + shipping, with a minimum order of 500 pieces. Shipping is a big fee, because a 500 pcs box weights 20 kg and sending it with a fast delivery like the FedEx costs at least 1000 yuan.

If you search on Taobao (that’s a “Chinese eBay”) you can find them for 4 yuan each, no minumum. If you ask for a quantity discount, you can get them for 3.5 yuan.

So, the prices, converted in chinese yuan are:

MSRP in Italy: 60 yuan

Wholesale in Italy: 18 yuan

Aliexpress slow shipping, 1 piece: 13 yuan

An agent sources them for you in China: 5.80 yuan. With 1000 yuan for shipping, its 7.80 yuan each.

If you can source them by yourself (you need to speak Chinese): 3.50 yuan; shipped is 5.50 yuan each.

It’s interesting seeing how a product price rises, at each middleman: once the final customer gets in their hand, the price increased ten times!

Of course there’s the problem about how you can sell them in stores: it’s almost impossible to sell 500 pieces at 10 euro each if you are not a big chain, like Target.

]]>https://www.forexperiments.com/2018/01/thinking-to-the-import.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=thinking-to-the-import/feed01535https://www.forexperiments.com/2018/01/thinking-to-the-import.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=thinking-to-the-importI reached the payout on FeClixhttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Forexperimentations/~3/SyPNspmvsyY/i-reached-the-payout-on-feclix.html
https://www.forexperiments.com/2017/11/i-reached-the-payout-on-feclix.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=i-reached-the-payout-on-feclix#respondFri, 24 Nov 2017 11:42:16 +0000http://www.forexperiments.com/?p=1513]]>I finally reached the payout on FeClix! When I had time I went over there and did the minimum activity which paid the most. Now I’m waiting for the money, then I’ll decide the outcome.

If I think that I only turned on the machine only 10 times, I made enough money, but I had to throw 100 euro of raw material to try to meet some customer specifics. I failed.

Total: 350 euro.

I made 50 euro, but with a 4-5 hours work. Totally normal.

]]>https://www.forexperiments.com/2017/07/ptm-june-2017.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=ptm-june-2017/feed01479https://www.forexperiments.com/2017/07/ptm-june-2017.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=ptm-june-2017Neobux is just a waste of timehttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Forexperimentations/~3/ld8p6Uo5-J0/neobux-is-just-a-waste-of-time.html
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With Neobux you can make a lot of money!!!11

I’m sure you read this sentence in a lot of other blogs (because they want to have you as a direct referral). The truth is; it’s just a waste of time. The rented referals they have a very low daily activity, the average can’t pay back the rent price. The automatic recycling of rentals comes after 14 days but… what a “coincidence”, after 13 days they have a small activity, then “die” again after one day. Is that possible??? ALWAYS LIKE THAT????

I wrote on the official forum, asking for explanations. My post was deleted in under one minute, without any further explanations.

What to say? Enough, I withdrew all of them, and game over.

Luckily, they send the money immediately via PayPal, I got them within 15 seconds.

]]>https://www.forexperiments.com/2017/06/neobux-is-just-a-waste-of-time.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=neobux-is-just-a-waste-of-time/feed01465https://www.forexperiments.com/2017/06/neobux-is-just-a-waste-of-time.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=neobux-is-just-a-waste-of-timeMy PTM project is starting!http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Forexperimentations/~3/2Vhuq3aNLuE/my-ptm-project-is-starting.html
https://www.forexperiments.com/2017/06/my-ptm-project-is-starting.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=my-ptm-project-is-starting#respondSat, 03 Jun 2017 17:01:24 +0000http://www.forexperiments.com/?p=1451Continue reading My PTM project is starting!]]>Did you remember the investment I was introduced to two months ago? Renting a place+machinery, to make some extra money?

I almost cancelled the deal last month when I went to see how the old man was working, and I saw that he was working at 500% his capacity, to produce months and months of “advance” work for my future Customers, attracted by a strong discount.

So, like an idiot, I would have found myself without ordersk for months, and maybe the customers would have asked “everything must go” discounts as he did!

In the end, however, we changed the economic terms, and here I am, ready for this new adventure!

The terms we agreed: € 300 per month for renting this room + several hundred euros of “free” raw materials (ie: as a refund of damages). Regular lease agreement with a duration of 4 years.

The problems started right away: the old man told me “I gonna teach you all about manufacturing” – but he barely just knows how to turn on the machine! The workmanship was totally handled by that employee, who found another job! That’s why even though the processing is “very simple”, he decided to sell everything!

So I had to call that employee and give him 40 euros to have a quick crash course.

Second problem: the work is not “simple” as he stated – the 2-3 hour crash lesson from ex-employee was not enough – I wasted a lot of raw materials to do the experiments! Luckily they were “free”.

So the first month was like this:

Expenses:

300 per rent

40 “lesson”

I got very small orders:

98 euro

40 euro

10 euro

10 euro

20 euro (This was hard! In order to find the right parameters I wasted like 100 euro of materials!!!)

]]>https://www.forexperiments.com/2017/06/my-ptm-project-is-starting.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=my-ptm-project-is-starting/feed01451https://www.forexperiments.com/2017/06/my-ptm-project-is-starting.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=my-ptm-project-is-startingNeobux: the first 30 days of rented referralshttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Forexperimentations/~3/XM8ZXL_nlus/neobux-the-first-30-days-of-rented-referrals.html
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This is the table of my 12 rented referrals on Neobux.

I did not pay a single dollar from my pocket. For now it seems that it’s possible to earn something, but we are far from the earnings I was told. 14 cents a month do not seem enough to justify a daily login and daily clicks. I will give it another month to see if the click average will rise and then I will decide.

]]>https://www.forexperiments.com/2017/04/neobux-the-first-30-days-of-rented-referrals.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=neobux-the-first-30-days-of-rented-referrals/feed01444https://www.forexperiments.com/2017/04/neobux-the-first-30-days-of-rented-referrals.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=neobux-the-first-30-days-of-rented-referralsIs it worth to recycle a referral on Neobux?http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Forexperimentations/~3/dZgtf7zyAgs/is-it-worth-to-recycle-a-referral-on-neobux.html
https://www.forexperiments.com/2017/04/is-it-worth-to-recycle-a-referral-on-neobux.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=is-it-worth-to-recycle-a-referral-on-neobux#respondSat, 08 Apr 2017 09:08:20 +0000http://www.forexperiments.com/?p=1424Continue reading Is it worth to recycle a referral on Neobux?]]>Take for example this Rented Referral on Neobux. It seems the perfect candidate for a “manual recycle”.

I paid 20 cents to rent it for 30 days. He clicked for 2 days and then disappeared. Having enabled AutoPay, I spent 2 * $0.0057 = $0.0114 to extend for two days his rental.

He made me earn 8 clicks, for $ 0.005 = $ 0.04

If I let it expire, it will cost me:

$ 0.20 for initial renting

$ 0.0114 for extending rental for two days

$ 0.02 for return fee

Total: 0.04-0.20-0.0114-0.02 = a $ 0.194 loss.

But maybe, it could “wake up” and start clicking again.

If I manually recycle it, it will cost me:

$ 0.20 for initial renting

$ 0.0114 for extending rental for two days

$ 0.07 for recycle it

At this point I would have paid 24 cents, but with a “new” referral, with 16 days of rental left.

In a perfect world, this new could make 4*0.005*16= $ 0.32 and I will make money. But it’s not a perfect world. From the averages I saw, it’s going to do 1,5*0.005*16=$ 0.12

So by recycling, if I got an “average” replacement, I would end with a 12 cents loss. And of course I could get a “lazy” one that clicks once every three days, with an higher loss!

If, however, I hope in the free replacement after 15 days of inactivity, however, I would find a new one within 10 days deadline, which, with an average of 1.5 clicks per day, I would yield $ 0.075: the end result would be a loss of 12 cents!

So, after all, in my opinion, is not worth to do manual recycles on Neobux, it’s better to let them expire.

]]>https://www.forexperiments.com/2017/04/is-it-worth-to-recycle-a-referral-on-neobux.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=is-it-worth-to-recycle-a-referral-on-neobux/feed01424https://www.forexperiments.com/2017/04/is-it-worth-to-recycle-a-referral-on-neobux.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=is-it-worth-to-recycle-a-referral-on-neobuxWhat about a traditional investment?http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Forexperimentations/~3/NtqsR21HfgU/what-about-a-traditional-investment.html
https://www.forexperiments.com/2017/04/what-about-a-traditional-investment.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=what-about-a-traditional-investment#respondSun, 02 Apr 2017 10:30:13 +0000http://www.forexperiments.com/?p=1406Continue reading What about a traditional investment?]]>Five years ago, a family friend, business owner, wanting to retire, having no sons, asked me to take over his company for 25000 euro.

Taking a look at the account book, the balance was very good, but including taxes, wages of many employees, the fact that I had to give up my job, it was a commitment too big for me.

In addition, at the time I was “full retard” from Forex, and all I thought was “well, if I had this money, I’d invest it with some EA, in a year I would be a millionaire” and “anyway in a few years I will be a millionaire, it’s useless to waste time” .

The years have passed and, because of his health, the company has been resized. Now the production is run by a part time employee. He doesn’t search anymore for new customers, in order to work more slowly and he has sold nearly all the machinery, leaving only one production line. Requiring less space, he stopped to rent his commercial space and moved into a tiny room in his property, saving thousands.

Instead my Forex investment, had a positive but very small return on investment, not the millions I dreamed in the beginning!!!

On Friday he invited me to see how his business works.

Starting from the raw material, the machinery, semi-automatically the product with the customer’s specifications. Customers, who are producers of furnishings, integrate it into their solutions and sell it to the public.

So he has a dozen clients, who make large orders once a month: he doesn’t make thousands of Euros, but also he works a few hours a day, I could easily fulfill orders in my spare time.

In a week his last employee will go away, so he told me this proposal: I would rent his room, including machinery and customer base, with a long-term contract and then manage orders by myself, keeping the earnings.

I am a bit scared of making a long-term contract and also on the bureaucratic side, but it is enticing to me.

What to do?

]]>https://www.forexperiments.com/2017/04/what-about-a-traditional-investment.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=what-about-a-traditional-investment/feed01406https://www.forexperiments.com/2017/04/what-about-a-traditional-investment.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=what-about-a-traditional-investmentPTC without investing?http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Forexperimentations/~3/e_Dua-5uWaA/ptc-without-investing.html
https://www.forexperiments.com/2017/03/ptc-without-investing.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=ptc-without-investing#respondSat, 18 Mar 2017 19:16:06 +0000http://www.forexperiments.com/?p=1396Continue reading PTC without investing?]]>I did some calculations with the paid to click sites that I’m still using: NeoBux, ClixTen and FEClix. In all three cases, with a free account, you need a lot of patience before seeing some money.

Here are the calculations that I made with ClixTen: every day, you can earn a little more than 1 cent.

Rent an affiliate costs 15 cents and, at best, can generate up to 24 cents per month. So, in the best case, we could earn from the rentals (minimum 10), 9 * 10 = 90 cents.

Now, it is almost impossible that all affiliates will connect everyday and will click on all the banners.

If they do half of the clicks, we will have a net gain of 4 cents for each referral. A little bit.

What if we paid $100 upfront, buying the GOLD subscription at $75 per year.

From our clicks we would gain up to 240 cents per month, and from renting we might have a gross profit up to 60 cents per month.

Assuming that the rentals have an average of 2 clicks per day, we would have a net gain of 15 cents.

Investing $25 in 25 / 0.19 = 130 rentals (for Gold members it costs more to rent), we would have a monthly gain of 15 * 130 = $19.5 per month!

So, paying $100 in advance, after a year we would have:

$28 from our clicks

$234 from affiliates

Net total, after paying $75 for Gold: $159

Something completely different!

I feel that if I don’t want to count pennies, it’s necessary an initial investment …

However, I don’t like the idea to pay upfront on this kind of websites.

What do you think?

]]>https://www.forexperiments.com/2017/03/ptc-without-investing.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=ptc-without-investing/feed01396https://www.forexperiments.com/2017/03/ptc-without-investing.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=ptc-without-investing20 days with PTCshttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Forexperimentations/~3/qfAMEzLIThE/20-days-with-ptcs.html
https://www.forexperiments.com/2017/03/20-days-with-ptcs.html?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=20-days-with-ptcs#respondSun, 12 Mar 2017 12:23:41 +0000http://www.forexperiments.com/?p=1369Continue reading 20 days with PTCs]]>It’s already been 20 days since my friend convinced me to try to make money with Paid-To-Click sites.

You will notice that for now I made just some pocket change. The real “gain” is done by renting referrals and earn exponentially on their activity. However, all sites penalize those who don’t log in every day, so you need to click 4-5 times on each site every day, otherwise what your rented referrals made, will not be credited. Also, I set myself a rule to never do an activity that pay less than one-thousandth of a dollar.

I did 472 clicks, being paid on average one-thousandth of a dollar per click. Luckily I won $ 1.25 with AdPrize. I then spent 60 cents for renting 3 referrals. Unfortunately, in three days they made only 4 clicks in total, making me earn only 2 cents (if you read those sites that say “with NeoBux you make millions,” I would have to earn at least ten times!). I hope they “wake up” in a few days…

I did 201 clicks, being paid an average of two-thousandth of a dollar per click. The average is much higher than others because if you sign up via a special link, you have seven days of premium membership as a gift, gaining twice.

This PTC pays ten times more than the others, but it’s restricted only to people living in Italy.

ScarletClix, GPTPlanet and Grandbux

I closed my accounts because I was paid less than half one-thousandth of a dollar per click. Waste of time. I also opened and closed on the same day an account with Grandbux: only 4 ads pay one-thousandth of a dollar and must leave the browser window active in front for a minute. Moreover referrals are rented in an expensive packs of 100. So it takes 4-5 years of clicks to make some money