Originally posted by 9inermaniac:Who was the last rookie WR to make a team credible? All sports analyst say the 49ers are going to suck because we dont have Crabtree. How big of a difference would he really make to the team?

Does anyone know if they are still negotiating or is he waiting for the 49ers to contact him with a new offer?

very true. Calvin Johnson didn't make the Lions any better immediately. The only position that can turn a franchise around with a rook is QB, maybe RB.

He suffered a lower back injury in week 2 or 3 of his rookie season, he would take Vicodin 2x a game to be able to get though the game. He was on a team that could not run the ball and whose QB was sacked 50+ times. It's possible he would have had a greater impact had they had an OL who could run and pass block.

I’m with you I’m waiting till Saturday if he doesn’t sign by then I’m done with him he is dead to me. And when we see him next year I hope P Willie takes his head off. But I hope he is just doing what his agent says and come Saturday he says screw this I’m signing

I’m with you I’m waiting till Saturday if he doesn’t sign by then I’m done with him he is dead to me. And when we see him next year I hope P Willie takes his head off. But I hope he is just doing what his agent says and come Saturday he says screw this I’m signing

i think if he doesnt sign by saturday or the few days after, i dont think it will be about caring if we sign him or not. I think by then, there's enuf writing on the wall to see we just plainly aren't signing him unless we offer more then the slot, which i dont think we are going to do. if not signed by next week, its pretty evident he does infact truly intend to hold out till the draft unless niners give him what he wants.

for all the leverage we had, its down to a matter of days in my opinion to where leverage will now be his. from his standpoint, if we want him, we know the price tag to get him. otherwise, we'll see him on a opposing team next season.

I’m with you I’m waiting till Saturday if he doesn’t sign by then I’m done with him he is dead to me. And when we see him next year I hope P Willie takes his head off. But I hope he is just doing what his agent says and come Saturday he says screw this I’m signing

Originally posted by sincalniner:Just seen that Goodell will be doing a live chat tomorrow @ 2pm eastern on NFL.com. We need to get as many zoners on as possable and hound his ass about this Sanders crap.

Agreed. I already sent in my question:

In a recent NFL Network interview Deion Sanders claimed that two teams had attempted to trade for Michael Crabtree and were willing to meet his contract demands. The 49ers have stated no such talks occurred. Essentially, if Deion is speaking the truth then this is an obvious case of tampering. If not then Deion is inappropriately using his position on the NFL Network to attempt to push the 49ers into meeting Crabtree's contract demand.

Given the public nature of the revelation does the league require the 49ers to lodge an investigation and if not will the league be investigating under its own initiative?

Bumping a good question

Halfway through and Goodell hasn't dealt with a sensitive quesiton yet. All publicly available statements (Time Warner network issue and rookie salary cap) he's made elsewhere. I doubt he'll deal with any contentious issues here.

Crabtree is a wash this year anyway, funny how we were all pumped on him being picked a few months ago. The Raiders front office looks a lot smarter than us now at least there guy is in camp to drop all of those passes.

Originally posted by sincalniner:Just seen that Goodell will be doing a live chat tomorrow @ 2pm eastern on NFL.com. We need to get as many zoners on as possable and hound his ass about this Sanders crap.

Agreed. I already sent in my question:

In a recent NFL Network interview Deion Sanders claimed that two teams had attempted to trade for Michael Crabtree and were willing to meet his contract demands. The 49ers have stated no such talks occurred. Essentially, if Deion is speaking the truth then this is an obvious case of tampering. If not then Deion is inappropriately using his position on the NFL Network to attempt to push the 49ers into meeting Crabtree's contract demand.

Given the public nature of the revelation does the league require the 49ers to lodge an investigation and if not will the league be investigating under its own initiative?

Bumping a good question

Halfway through and Goodell hasn't dealt with a sensitive quesiton yet. All publicly available statements (Time Warner network issue and rookie salary cap) he's made elsewhere. I doubt he'll deal with any contentious issues here.

Originally posted by MrOrange:That John Clayton clone/wannabe on NFL.com said that he expects Crabtree to sign no later than week 10 when of course he would stand to lose too much if you will. I say he probably signs week 2 or 3 when he realizes he's lost close to $50,000 in game checks.

When he does sign though it'll be a little awkward for whomever ended up caving in. Someone is going to have to answer some tough questions about why he wasn't at camp when it started let alone there for the season opener.

Holding out till the first game of the preseason? I'm ok with that. There is nothing wrong with seeing how much leverage you have and what you can walk away with, but this has turned into something absurd. Lose/lose situation....moreso for Crabtree.

i think most of you guys don't understand crabtree cos you don't think like him.
I think you're wrong cos what 50K means for a guy expecting 30M ? (you know there's a big difference between a K and a M) It means absolutely nothing ! He has a high opinion of himself and signing for the contract given by the niners is like an insult to him.
HE WILL NOT SIGN UNLESS THE NINERS MAKE A BETTER OFFER
i SAY IT TODAY AND I'LL SAY IT TOMORROW
forget about the guy and yes you can burn your #15 jersey for good (thank god after hesitation i finally bought a #52 jersey cos i went for the guy who already proved somethin')

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