Comments on Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still OutTypePad2010-04-15T19:18:57ZMiami Heraldhttp://miamiherald.typepad.com/fish_bytes/tag:typepad.com,2003:http://miamiherald.typepad.com/fish_bytes/2010/04/baseball-analyst-not-impressed-with-cantus-rbi-streak/comments/atom.xml/Derek4Dolphins commented on 'Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still Out'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e20133ecc16b30970b2010-04-17T18:45:20Z2010-04-17T18:45:20ZDerek4Dolphinshttp://profile.typepad.com/derek4dolphinsIn Football they call them "Blocks" or "TD Passes" in Basketball they call them "Assists"... but this goober has it...<p>In Football they call them &quot;Blocks&quot; or &quot;TD Passes&quot; in Basketball they call them &quot;Assists&quot;... but this goober has it in his head that it should&#39;t matter in the &quot;Old Pass Time&quot; Huh? This is the trouble with Baseball an it always will be. Instead of embracing the game as it is... we are still saddled with girl-friend-less losers who hold to what they call the &quot;Love of the game&quot; But who are completely unwilling to accept it in anyform that exists post 1955. <br />
Not only that...But...</p>
<p> ****NEWSFLASH****<br />
If it is not about the Yuckin Fankees or the Red Socks it is not WORTHY of a team or Baseball news. Keep trying Baseball... once you have ran jokes like this clown and the ability of one or two Cities to buy out the game... things will improve for the state of your league.</p>Owl commented on 'Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still Out'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e20133ecc07f5f970b2010-04-17T14:03:00Z2010-04-17T14:03:00ZOwl Obviously RBI isn't the tell all (See the Hanley/Jacobs debate above) but anyone who has watched Cantu over the past...<p>Obviously RBI isn&#39;t the tell all (See the Hanley/Jacobs debate above) but anyone who has watched Cantu over the past 3 seasons knows he is not a below average hitter for a corners man. </p>
<p>These national analysts get a snippet here and a highlight there and really they are not experts on any team. Especially the Marlins, whom they still think are candidates for contraction. </p>
<p>Go away Keith Law. We hate you. We&#39;ll see you in October. </p>josh commented on 'Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still Out'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e20133ecbd7f38970b2010-04-16T22:52:42Z2010-04-16T22:52:42ZjoshLaw was with the Blue Jays...they have had a good run at evaluating talent, what's valued and have given some...<p>Law was with the Blue Jays...they have had a good run at evaluating talent, what&#39;s valued and have given some really crappy contracts out. I guess there is a reason why the word &quot;former&quot; precedes his affiliation. </p>Ultra commented on 'Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still Out'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e20133ecbc9e0b970b2010-04-16T19:23:30Z2010-04-16T19:23:30ZUltraWhat a tool lol. RBI overrated? Seriously? It doesn't matter how often players get on base, if no one knocks...<p>What a tool lol. RBI overrated? Seriously? It doesn&#39;t matter how often players get on base, if no one knocks them in, they can&#39;t score and you lose the game. What an idiot.</p>Fred commented on 'Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still Out'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e20133ecbb8ef0970b2010-04-16T16:17:41Z2010-04-16T16:17:41ZFredJacob, of course you put more value on the guy that gets on base a lot, but to completely brush...<p>Jacob, of course you put more value on the guy that gets on base a lot, but to completely brush aside a stat like RBI is foolish.</p>
<p>Talk to any major league ball player and he&#39;ll tell you how important RBIs are. Its one of the most important stats because the game is about scoring runs and winning games. Ichiro gets on base a lot but his team hasn&#39;t been doing much winning in recent years because he was left on base. </p>
<p>You need the guys who knock in the runs. Go ahead and tell Hanley how unimportant RBIs are when last season he knocked in 100+ runs and called it one of his greatest achievements in baseball. Sabermetrics has value but like Carlos Tosca said &quot;its baseball not math&quot; The game is played on the field not in a calculator. </p>
<p>Every guy in the Marlins clubhouse right now is congratulating Cantu and happy he is helping them win.</p>
<p>FYI when Keith Law worked for the Blue Jays they were a horrible team. </p>
<p>Fred</p>James commented on 'Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still Out'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e201347feb6b4e970c2010-04-16T15:57:17Z2010-04-16T15:57:17ZJamesMr. Law just thinks traditional baseball stats are non-sense yet somehow he believes a formula that can explain the amount...<p>Mr. Law just thinks traditional baseball stats are non-sense yet somehow he believes a formula that can explain the amount of wins each player means to his team</p>
<p>he bashed coglan for being ROY over his choice and generally rips the marlins whenever he can</p>
<p>the guy is trash and anyone who takes him seriously is just as trashy and probably should go to calculous rather than watch baseball</p>Jacob commented on 'Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still Out'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e201347feb3149970c2010-04-16T15:19:05Z2010-04-16T15:19:05ZJacobhttp://miamiherald.comYou're right. If you have a guy who has a lower OBP than Emilio Bonifacio, it's alright as long as...<p>You&#39;re right. If you have a guy who has a lower OBP than Emilio Bonifacio, it&#39;s alright as long as he is batting clean up. I forgot about that rule. Thanks for clearing that one up.</p>p. commented on 'Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still Out'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e20133ecbb2c38970b2010-04-16T15:13:57Z2010-04-16T15:13:57Zp.Wowww what a nerd....<p>Wowww what a nerd....</p>FishFan4Life commented on 'Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still Out'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e201347fead826970c2010-04-16T14:13:14Z2010-04-16T14:13:14ZFishFan4LifeHey Jacob...Your comparison of Hanley and Mike Jacobs is off. Batting average and OBP are more important at the top...<p>Hey Jacob...Your comparison of Hanley and Mike Jacobs is off. Batting average and OBP are more important at the top of the order while RBIs are more important in the middle. I.E. They are both important.</p>Jacob commented on 'Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still Out'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e201347fea91fd970c2010-04-16T13:11:19Z2010-04-16T13:11:19ZJacobhttp://miamiherald.comTosca's comment makes him sound like a caveman. K-Man, you need to get a clue. In 2008, Hanley bat .300...<p>Tosca&#39;s comment makes him sound like a caveman. </p>
<p>K-Man, you need to get a clue. In 2008, Hanley bat .300 and had 67 RBI. Mike Jacobs bat .240 with 93 RBI. You&#39;d rather have Jacobs of course, right? </p>
<p>But when you start looking at stats that aren&#39;t dependant (like RBI) and look at stats that measure an individuals performance (like Hanley&#39;s .400 OBP and .940 OPS compared to Jacob&#39;s .299 OBP and .812 OPS), you get a better idea of which player is more valuable.</p>
<p>Or K-Man, you and Carlos Tosca can be cavemen together. </p>mung commented on 'Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still Out'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e20133ecb8ab48970b2010-04-16T04:23:51Z2010-04-16T04:23:51ZmungLast year's NL RBI leaders were Fielder, Howard and Pujols. Lets hear Law piss on them too.<p>Last year&#39;s NL RBI leaders were Fielder, Howard and Pujols. Lets hear Law piss on them too.</p>K-man commented on 'Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still Out'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e20133ecb85a26970b2010-04-16T03:33:07Z2010-04-16T03:33:07ZK-manLol that guy is an idiot. I rather have a .240 hitter with 120 RBI than a .350 hitter with...<p>Lol that guy is an idiot. I rather have a .240 hitter with 120 RBI than a .350 hitter with 30 RBI. WINS overrated???? This guy should not be allowed to write. Keith law???? Shows how overrated he is I have never heard of him. I bet If cantu was on the yanks he would be saying how great he was</p>bobbyd12 commented on 'Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still Out'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e201347fe83424970c2010-04-16T03:06:01Z2010-04-16T03:06:01Zbobbyd12LOL, here's a guy who supposedly is sooo smart but because he doesn't believe in the RBI Column so he...<p>LOL, here&#39;s a guy who supposedly is sooo smart but because he doesn&#39;t believe in the RBI Column so he doesn&#39;t look at it??? Gimme a break, this guy wants to pick n choose what HE thinks is important because he is just smarter then everybody else...I bet he spends his nights home alone</p>Alwaysteal commented on 'Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still Out'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e201347fe82600970c2010-04-16T02:53:19Z2010-04-16T02:53:19ZAlwaystealTrade uggla for sp and move coghlan to 2nd!! Stanton to OF. COME ON MANAGEMENT!<p>Trade uggla for sp and move coghlan to 2nd!! Stanton to OF. COME ON MANAGEMENT!</p>HanRamJJ commented on 'Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still Out'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e201347fe6eb94970c2010-04-15T22:21:17Z2010-04-15T22:21:17ZHanRamJJI just lost all respect for Mr. Law<p>I just lost all respect for Mr. Law</p>MarlinFan commented on 'Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still Out'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e20133ecb6e10d970b2010-04-15T22:02:01Z2010-04-15T22:02:01ZMarlinFanRBI's and batting average with men on base are some of the most important numbers. I don't want a guy...<p>RBI&#39;s and batting average with men on base are some of the most important numbers. I don&#39;t want a guy who is hitting when no one is on. What stats does this guy value?</p>Hunter commented on 'Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still Out'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e201347fe6a995970c2010-04-15T21:24:11Z2010-04-15T21:24:11ZHunterAnother numbers and stats dork who graduated from Harvard and thinks he's smarter than everyone. Doesn't mean he's a baseball...<p>Another numbers and stats dork who graduated from Harvard and thinks he&#39;s smarter than everyone. Doesn&#39;t mean he&#39;s a baseball guy. BTW - I love Tosca&#39;s quote.</p>Connie Mack commented on 'Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still Out'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e201347fe6a2c7970c2010-04-15T21:18:26Z2010-04-15T21:18:26ZConnie MackKeith Law is a jackweed. He's not impressed, yet Cantu is doing something that no other hitter in baseball has...<p>Keith Law is a jackweed. He&#39;s not impressed, yet Cantu is doing something that no other hitter in baseball has done since 1920. And you write a blog post on Keith Law poo-pooing it. Nice... </p>
<p>By the way, Observer, I think Mr Law used to work for the Toronto Blue Jay. (Operative phrase: &quot;used to&quot;) </p>observer commented on 'Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still Out'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e201347fe684b8970c2010-04-15T20:54:25Z2010-04-15T20:54:25ZobserverIf the guy "Law" was really good at what he does and really knows what he's doing or talking about,...<p>If the guy &quot;Law&quot; was really good at what he does and really knows what he&#39;s doing or talking about, Newsflash folks:::: HE WOULDN&#39;T BE WORKING FOR ESPN, he&#39;d be working for the yankees.... or any other team that could easily pay him more than ESPN....</p>JoeGoodyMiaHrld commented on 'Baseball Analyst Not Impressed with Cantu's RBI Streak; Coghlan Still Out'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e20133ecb68ff8970b2010-04-15T20:50:48Z2010-06-16T04:06:54ZJoeGoodyMiaHrldhttp://profile.typepad.com/joegoodymiahrldWow, what a geeky baseball writer debate. I love it. Thanks for the window into the press box. In my...<p>Wow, what a geeky baseball writer debate. I love it. Thanks for the window into the press box. In my opinion, RBI is one of baseball&#39;s most important stats simply for the reason that it&#39;s one of the only stats that implies teamwork. Since baseball is a team game, then RBI is an important stat. The same goes for runs scored, double plays and -- the most important stat of all -- wins.</p>
<p>-jo-</p>