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If anyone's life seems uninteresting, either they are hiding stuff, or we should look for what is causing it to be uninteresting.

Nobody saying that SCIENTOLOGY is a Bad Thing ever mentions that it is based on that Principle.

Born again, eh? What went wrong first time?

What is wrong with everyone before Yahshua's New Birth Teaching is perfectly accounted for by SCIENTOLOGY and NAGUALISM.

LOS NUEVOS VIDENTES- THE NEW SEERS- who trained the Anthropologist CARLOS CASTANEDA base their Beliefs on Firsthand Observations of the Spiritual Realm.

They see that every Living Creature has a Manifestation of The Creator that stamps on them at birth, and imprints the Commands of The Creator into that Creature, that make the Creature perform the Functions of its species.

Human beings, however, have a very interesting thing happen to them at birth:

A malevolent Species rips this imprint out of every Human born, and replaces it with an implant of their own. This implant is situated at the top of the head, and goes on to send a Root System throughout the Soul Body, depicting their control over us.

The New Seers call this THE FOREIGN INSTALLATION.

Those who advance in the Discipline of Spiritual Energy Discrimination see that whereas the Foreign Installation looks like what the Asian Indians call a CHAKRA, it does not vibrate in the same phase as the genuine Energy Centres of the Physical Body. That is because it is a counterfeit, put there to help these malevolent beings, LOS VOLADORES- THE FLYERS- to use us as their DAIRY CATTLE (sic).

Through the Implant, they keep us in states where they can siphon off our constantly-replenishing Life Force which The Creator gives every Living Creature freely, at birth.

This Life Force reaches every Creature by a feed in the form of balls or rings of living fire, that impact on the Soul Body at a point specific to that species. That of Humans is in the area between the navel, and the base of the abdomen.

If this energy is not received and used efficiently, the Soul Body ossifies, and becomes too brittle to withstand the moment-by-moment onslaught of the energy feed, and cracks open, spilling its contents.

That spells Death for that Creature.

The Flyers have reached an advanced stage of ossification, and have had to close the receiving area, to prevent the life force impacts from damaging their Soul Bodies, this gave them an enormously extended lifespan, but left them with a New Problem- where to get enough Life Force to subsist....

What Species would be so dumb as to let another Species feed off of them, and kill them in the Process, from generation-to-generation, like it was nothing?

Would you believe- they actually found such a species???

THIS, THEREFORE, IS "WHAT WENT WRONG WITH OUR FIRST BIRTH."

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.THE ACTIVE SIDE OF INFINITY, by Carlos Castaneda.]

There is nothing funny about it.

GOD DID NOT CREATE THE HUMAN SPECIES FORTHIS, AND INTERVENED FOUR SPECIFIC TIMES TO ENABLE US TO REMEDY THIS SITUATION WITH MINIMAL INPUT FROM HIMSELF.

1. THE GREAT FLOOD.

2. THE JOB CONFRONTATION.

3. THE CREATION OF ISRAEL.

4. THE GOSPEL OF YAHSHUA.

Despite Yahweh God's sneaking us Winning Hands that should have ended Los Voladores/The Flyers' Tyranny there and then, we Humans managed to shoot ourselves in the foot with every gun He has given us.

We have no one to blame but ourselves.

SPIRITUAL DISCIPLINE ALTERS OUR VIBRATIONS SO THAT OUR LIFE ENERGY BECOMES INTOLERABLE TO THE FLYERS.

While we remain Disciplined, they cannot siphon our energy, and leave us to siphon someone tastier.

They will, however, watch us like Vultures, for when we will abandon the Discipline, and allow our energy to stagnate. Then they pounce on us, like Carrion Birds-of-Prey, and take back all the energy they feel we have deprived them of.

This sometimes leaves the victims in a vegetative coma.

This is invariably blamed on whatever Discipline the Poor Fool was using at the time- Yoga, Buddhism, Sufism, Scientology, Eckankar, Shamanism, etc.. These Disciplines were not the cause of the Problem: abandoning the Discipline caused the Problem.

Say, somebody uses MIND CONTROL to find lost objects, or win the gal of his dreams, or some such silliness? Once he has gotten what he wants, he abandons the Discipline- because he "doesn't need it any more."

What he has done is the Spiritual Equivalent of refusing to pay Protection Money, and then thinking the Mob has forgotten all about you, because you forgot all about them!

This is what YAHWEH GOD has been trying to Save us from- only, we decided that we knew better, and laughed-off all His Warnings.

Which means that I believe in ALL of The Commandments and Teachings of The Lord Yahshua, including the ones you have never seen Organized Christian Clergy teach- including the Teachings to Suspend Judgment, Withhold Condemnation, and See Past the Sins, to LEARN from whatever TRUTH OF GOD any Sinner might have.

How about growing up instead.

How grown up can you be, if you assume Ex-Organized Christians are the same as Organized Christians?

Have you ever seen any Born Again, Pentecostal Christians who knew SCIENTOLOGY, NAGUALISM, and THE CELESTINE PROPHECY before? Who recognized the value Truths in them, reflected in The Holy Bible?

objectivechristian wrote:Nobody saying that SCIENTOLOGY is a Bad Thing ever mentions that it is based on that Principle.

It's based on this principle:

"You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion."

Much has been written to confirm this story. For instance

The following letter, written by L. Ron Hubbard, was discovered by the FBI during its raid on Scientology headquarters. The letter shows Hubbard turned Scientology into a "religion" for financial reasons:(1953)DEAR HELEN 10 APRILRE CLINIC, HASThe arrangements that have been made seem a good temporary measure. On a longer look, however, something more equitable will have to be organized. I am not quite sure what we would call the place - probably not a clinic - but I am sure that it ought to be a company, independent of the HAS [the Hubbard Association of Scientologists] but fed by the HAS. We don't want a clinic. We want one in operation but not in name. Perhaps we could call it a Spiritual Guidance Center. Think up its name, will you. And we could put in nice desks and our boys in neat blue with diplomas on the walls and 1. knock psychotherapy into history and 2. make enough money to shine up my operating scope and 3. keep the HAS solvent. It is a problem of practical business. I await your reaction on the religion angle. In my opinion, we couldn't get worse public opinion than we have had or have less customers with what we've got to sell. A religious charter would be necessary in Pennsylvania or NJ to make it stick. But I sure could make it stick. We're treating the present time beingness, psychotherapy treats the past and the brain. And brother, that's religion, not mental science.Regards, RonAn article of Prof. Benjamin Beith-Hallahmi documents the secular aspects of Scientology from Scientology's own writings.[100][my emphasis]