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G/S/C Rules, FAQ and Help Thread

Welcome to the Gold/Silver/Crystal section! This sub-forum is just for those three games that hold a special place in many of our hearts. This thread contains the rules of the forum and FAQ about the games. You can also ask for specific advice or help here.

The G/S/C Rules and Regulations

1. Follow all SPPf Rules. Read and know the General SPPf Rules, because it’s all the same stuff. This includes no flaming, double-posting, or advertising outside websites.

2. Search before posting. Use the Search bar near the top of the page to see if your question has already been answered.

3. Only talk about Gold, Silver and Crystal. This section is only for these 2nd generation games. Don’t talk about other games or make recommendations that aren’t accessible in G/S/C. HeartGold and SoulSilver are 4th generation games and don’t belong here, either.

4. Do not discuss ROMS, emulators, cheat devices or codes. If you don’t have a legitimate copy of the games, don’t discuss it, and if you want to hack your game, don't discuss it.

5. Do not bump threads. If the last post of a thread is from more than 30 days ago, do not respond to it. You may post a new version of the thread, but please leave dead threads dead.

6. To get your in-game team rated, go here. Be sure to read the RMT Rules before posting.

7. Please post general help questions in THIS thread. Don't make a new thread just for a simple help question!

That’s it. These rules are simple, and you are expected to follow them.

Useful Threads

These threads answer some of the more popular questions we get here, so please read and use them. Since they are stickied, you may bump them.

Which games can I trade with?
Gold, Silver and Crystal can only trade with Red, Blue and Yellow. They are also compatible with Pokémon Stadium 2. They can not trade with 3rd gen games and beyond.

Which attacks are Physical and which attacks are Special? In the first three generations of Pokémon games, instead of individual attacks being either physical or special, entire elements were considered either physical or special.Physical Types:
Bug
Fighting
Flying
Ghost
Ground
Normal
Poison
Rock
Steel

What and where are the special, rare or one-of-a-kind Pokémon?
Togepi - After defeating the Violet City Gym Leader, the man in the Pokémon Center will give you an egg containing Togepi.
Eevee - Bill in Goldenrod City will give it to you.
Lapras - Once you have Surf, Lapras is swimming in Union Cave on Fridays.
Shiny Gyarados - The only Pokémon that will always be Shiny. It swims in the middle of the Lake of Rage.
Tyrogue - In Mt Mortar, a blackbelt in will give you Tyrogue. You will need Pokémon with Flash, Surf, Waterfall, and Strength to get there.
Shuckle - A man in Cianwood City will give it to you.
Snorlax - Two block the way, one on Route 11 and one outside Diglett's Cave. Play the Pokémon Flute on the radio to wake it.You will need a free slot in your party to receive a Pokémon given to you.

How do I know if two Pokémon in the Daycare will produce an Egg?You will get an Egg if the Daycare man tells you:
-It appears to care for the other Pokémon.
-It shows interest in the other Pokémon.
-It's friendly with the other Pokémon.

You will not get an Egg if the Daycare man tells you:
-It's brimming with energy.
-It has no interest in the other Pokémon.

When is the Bug Catching Contest and what prizes can I win?
The contest takes place every Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday, and you are judged on the species and level of the Pokémon you catch. The prizes are:
First Place: Sun Stone
Second place: Everstone
Third Place: Gold Berry
Consolation Prize: Berry

What days does the S.S. Aqua leave from each port?
Vermilion->Olivine: Wednesdays and Sundays
Olivine->Vermilion: Mondays and FridaysYou can battle the trainers onboard once every trip. To end the trip, sleep in the bed in your cabin.

HMs:
01 Cut - Chase the bird in Ilex Forest and talk to its owner
02 Fly - The woman outside Cianwood City Gym
03 Surf - Defeat the 5 Eevee trainers in Ecruteak City and talk to the father
04 Strength - House next to the Pokémon Center in Olivine City
05 Flash - Defeat the Head Monk of Bellsprout Tower
06 Whirlpool - Help Lance defeat Team Rocket in Mahogony Town
07 Waterfall - Inside the Ice Cave

Pokémon Crystal

What is the Odd Egg?
The Odd Egg is an egg the Old Man from the Daycare Center gives you. It can Pichu, Igglybuff, Cleffa, Tyrogue, Magby, Elekid or Smoochum.
They each know Dizzy Punch and have a 50% chance of being Shiny in the Japanese version, and a 14% chance in other language games.

Where is the Move Tutor and what will he teach?
After defeating the Elite Four, a Move Tutor appears outside the Goldenrod Game Corner on Wednesdays and Saturdays. For 4,000 coins, he will teach Thunderbolt, Ice Beam or Flamethrower to one Pokémon once per day.

How does Buena's Password work?
Buena is a radio host in the Goldenrod Radio Tower. Get the Blue Card from her and listen to the radio every night between 6pm and midnight to hear the daily password. You receive a point for each correct answer. Trade in points for prizes.
2 Points - Ultra Ball, Full Restore
3 Points - Nugget, Rare Candy
5 Points - Protein, Iron, Carbos, Calcium, HP Up

Legendary Pokémon

Spoiler:- Obtaining the Legendary Pokémon:

In Gold Version
Ho-Oh:

What you need: The Rainbow Wing Key ItemWhen you can get to it: Once you defeat Team Rocket in Goldenrod City. The Radio Station Manager will give you the Rainbow Wing after you defeat the Team Rocket Leader.Location: The top floor of the Tin Tower in Ecruteak City.Level: It will be at level 40.

Lugia:

What you need: The Silver Wing Key Item and a Pokémon who knows Whirlpool.When you can get to it: Once you get to Pewter City in Kanto. Talk to an old man who stands in the eastern part of the city, near Route 3. He will gladly give you the Silver Wing.Location: In the Whirl Islands, south of Olivine and east of Cianwood. Go in through the northeast island (top right).Level: It will be at level 70. It can not learn the move Aeroblast in this version.

Raikou, Entei and Suicune:

When you can get to them: Once you unleash them from the bottom basement floor of the Burnt Tower.Location: Running all over Johto. No fixed location - you will see them randomly in the wild.Level: All three are at level 40.

In Silver Version:

Lugia:

What you need: The Silver Wing Key Item and a Pokémon who knows Whirlpool.When you can get to it: Once you defeat Team Rocket in Goldenrod City. The Radio Station Manager will give you the Silver Wing after you defeat the Team Rocket Leader.Location: In the Whirl Islands, south of Olivine and east of Cianwood. Go in through the northeast island (top right).Level: It will be at level 40.

Ho-Oh:

What you need: The Rainbow Wing Key ItemWhen you can get to it: Once you get to Pewter City in Kanto. Talk to an old man who stands in the eastern part of the city, near Route 3. He will gladly give you the Rainbow Wing.Location: The top floor of the Tin Tower in Ecruteak City.Level: It will be at level 70. It can not learn the move Sacred Fire in this version.

Raikou, Entei and Suicune:

When you can get to them: Once you unleash them from the bottom basement floor of the Burnt Tower.Location: Running all over Johto. No fixed location - you will see them randomly in the wild.Level: All three are at level 40.

In Crystal Version:

Ho-Oh:

What you need: The Rainbow Wing Key ItemWhen you can get to it: Once you have caught Raikou, Entei and Suicune and defeated the Elite Four. Go to the Tin Tower, and the monks will give you the Rainbow Wing and allow you to go to Ho-Oh.Location: The top floor of the Tin Tower in Ecruteak City.Level: It will be at level 60.

Lugia:

What you need: The Silver Wing Key Item and a Pokémon who knows Whirlpool.When you can get to it: Once you get to Pewter City in Kanto. Talk to an old man who stands in the eastern part of the city, near Route 3. He will gladly give you the Silver Wing.Location: In the Whirl Islands, south of Olivine and east of Cianwood. Go in through the northeast island (top right).Level: It will be at level 60.

Suicune:

What you need: The Clear Bell Key ItemWhen you can get it: Once you defeat Team Rocket in Goldenrod City. The Radio Station Manager will give you the Clear Bell after you defeat the Team Rocket Leader. You must then defeat the Wise Trio - three monks who will battle you - before allowing you to face Suicune.Location: Bottom floor of the Tin Tower, right when you walk through the door.Level: It will be at level 40.Note: Suicune can not run away from you in this battle.

Entei and Raikou:

When you can get to them: Once you unleash them from the bottom basement floor of the Burnt Tower.Location: Running all over Johto. No fixed location - you will see them randomly in the wild.Level: Both are at level 40.

Spoiler:- Tips for catching Raikou, Entei and Suicune:

How to catch the elusive Raikou, Entei and Suicune:

These three Pokémon (or two if you play Crystal) were the first of their kind in that they roam around the game and flee battles quickly. They're both hard to find and catch, making it a real challenge for trainers. The only way to encounter them is by getting lucky and bumping into them in the wild, and they can easily Run or use Roar to escape. Catching them is no easy task, but it’s doable even without a Masterball.

Step One: Unleash Them
Go to the Burnt Tower, approach them and let them run away. Don't panic, they're supposed to do that.

Step Two: Build Your Team
These Legendaries are very tricky because they can Run away whenever they want, or use Roar, and if you accidentally kill them, they won't come back. That is why the following attacks are needed:False Swipe – Catch a Scyther/Scizor from the Bug Catching Contest, or Farfetch'd on Route 38/39.Mean Look/Spider Web – The Gastly line and Spinarak line know these respectively. Gastly can be found in the Spout Tower at night and Spinarak on Route 30 and 31 at night (but only in Silver).Hypnosis/Spore/Sleep Powder/Sing, and Fly – For these, check the Serebii Attackdex.

A Gengar with Mean Look and Hypnosis and a Scyther/Scizor with False Swipe should be perfect. The Pokémon with Fly is only there for transportation, so it can be anything. Alternatively, put all these moves on a Smeargle if you can manage it. Raise your team to at least level 45. If they're slower than the beasts, train them more.

Step Three: Stock Up
Buy a lot of Ultra Balls and get Fast Balls from Kurt. Have at least 15-20 on you at all times. You might also want to buy some Repels so you won't have to waste as much time battling wild Geodude once you know where the beast is.

Step Four: Find the Legendaries
This will first rely on chance, as there is no way to track them until you have encountered them randomly in the wild. The first time they appear you'll probably have a heart attack, but don't panic if things don't work out and they get away.

Step Five: Chase The Legendaries
Once you have seen one of them at least once, you will be able to find that beast’s current location through your Pokédex. However, once you enter a city, route, cave, building, or simply turn your game off/on, its location will change. So it won't stay in the same place for very long, and catching up to it is very hard.

To begin the hunt, keep your Gengar first in your party, check the beast’s location and Fly somewhere nearby. There is a slim chance that it will change places to be nearer you or even in the same place, because they cannot jump from one end of Johto to another. Rinse and repeat until you find them; it's a long game of cat and mouse, but you'll also learn how to anticipate their movements and be near them. It takes a time, practice and patience, but it's worth it.

Step Six: BATTLE!
Once you encounter Raikou, Entei or Suicune, start off with Mean Look or Hypnosis. Either move can be good or bad; Mean Look prevents it from Running, but it can still use Roar. However, while Hypnosis prevents it from doing either, Hypnosis has low accuracy, and the beast may wake up immediately and Run or Roar.

Either way, ensure the Legendary is put to sleep, then bring in Scyther. Use False Swipe as many times as possible; this attack will never kill a Pokémon, so it's always safe. If the beast wakes up, switch back to Gengar if possible to put it back to sleep before it gets away. When False Swipe doesn't seem to be doing any more damage, it means that the Legendary only has one HP left, and that's your cue to start throwing Ultra Balls and Fast Balls! Keep Gengar out on the field during this time in case it wakes back up. It may take a good few battles with each beast to get them to this point.

If they escape, don't give up, because all's not lost. Any damage you have done to it in the past is still there, so if you know it only has one HP left you don't really need Scyther anymore. Just keep using Mean Look/Hypnosis/Ultra Ball, and you should catch it eventually.

CELEBI:

You CAN NOT obtain Celebi in Gold, Silver or Crystal.

Celebi was ONLY available through an event in the Japanese versions of the games featuring Kurt and the GS Ball.

The only LEGIT way to get it in the English versions was at a Nintendo Event. These events were much like the current ones where rare Pokémon are given away. They don't do this for older games anymore. The event took place in July of 2001 and at Six Flags in September of 2001.

The only other way is by using a glitch within the game.

The "bad egg" glitch can also be used to get a Celebi, but it also risks glitching up your game. Please refer to the Official Glitch Thread for more information.

Hope this helps! If you have any other questions, or things you would like to see added to the FAQ, please don't hesitate!

My game file seems to be corrupted (Pokemon Gold), and it's not due to an internal battery error. At least, that's what I believe to be true, considering I replaced the battery mid July.

While playing Stadium 2 and transferring pokemon from cartridge to cartridge, an error came up that prompted me to remove my game cartridge. So I did, and the N64 freezes. Unable to load my game, I load Gold onto my SP and received the message "The save file is corrupted!" when loading my game.

Should I just restart or is there some method to retrieving the data?

If this is the wrong section, apologies. So far I've only seen threads for dead internal batteries rather than the issue i've run into.

I load Gold onto my SP and received the message "The save file is corrupted!" when loading my game.

Should I just restart or is there some method to retrieving the data?

Sorry to say this, but when a Generation I or II game gives you a message like that, there's really nothing you can do but restart. Starting in Generation III, the games keep a backup save in case of corruption, but before that, there was really no failsafe to prevent data loss...

Sorry to say this, but when a Generation I or II game gives you a message like that, there's really nothing you can do but restart. Starting in Generation III, the games keep a backup save in case of corruption, but before that, there was really no failsafe to prevent data loss...

I have a question regarding Raikou, Entei and Suicune.
According to Bulbapedia, Roaming Pokémon retain a status ailment after fleeing - if I paralyse Entei during a battle, it should still be paralysed upon next encountering it. (Source: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...émon#Mechanics).
I am currently hunting the Trio in Pokémon Silver - and the above is not the case. Is Bulbapedia mistaken, am I reading it wrong or is something off about my game cartridge?
Hopefully, someone knows the answer. Please help!

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I'm pretty sure Bulbapedia is right on that one. Are you sure the status isn't retained? Everything, including the amount of HP it lost and the status should be retained for the next battle.

I'm playing Gold on an emulator and I'm looking for Heracross. According to Bulbapedia, it only appears in Mountain Areas (Like Route 33 where I am now). However, I keep headbutting trees and I only find Spearows and Aipoms. Then I went back to Bulbapedia and it says Heracross only appears in "Special Trees" What constitutes a "Special Tree"?

Fury Cutter help

As an attempt to evolve my Scyther, I deleted the move Fury Cutter he had in order to trade with my Red version to evolve Scyther. However, it didn't work, so I basically just deleted my Fury Cutter for good. Is there any way I can get another TM for Fury Cutter? Or, maybe, is there a way I can re-teach Fury Cutter to Scyther, now a Scizor?

As an attempt to evolve my Scyther, I deleted the move Fury Cutter he had in order to trade with my Red version to evolve Scyther. However, it didn't work, so I basically just deleted my Fury Cutter for good. Is there any way I can get another TM for Fury Cutter? Or, maybe, is there a way I can re-teach Fury Cutter to Scyther, now a Scizor?

Sadly not. The only way that you could have remedied this was by breeding the move onto a baby Scyther via a father that learns Fury Cutter by leveling up, but unfortunately no Pokemon learn the move through level up in GSC. Unless you have bred Fury Cutter onto other Pokemon prior to removing it from Scyther, the move has been lost for good.

Sadly not. The only way that you could have remedied this was by breeding the move onto a baby Scyther via a father that learns Fury Cutter by leveling up, but unfortunately no Pokemon learn the move through level up in GSC. Unless you have bred Fury Cutter onto other Pokemon prior to removing it from Scyther, the move has been lost for good.

Ah, such a shame, since it's probably the best bug-type move and will really work well in the e4, since it worked well with Scyther and now I have the Scizor with an enhanced attack. Hopefully my friend who I traded with to get Scizor still has his, so he can trade me a pokemon that's holding it...

EDIT: Hmm, only took me 2 hours but I got it again on my friend's non-saving Gold version

I have a quick question- I've just come upon Lugia in Pokemon Crystal in the Whirl Islands!
And I'd like to try to get the Lugia to be SHINY! But I'm not sure if that is possible or not? Is Lugia predetermined to be Shiny or not when I start the game, or can I soft reset to try and get it Shiny??

I have a quick question- I've just come upon Lugia in Pokemon Crystal in the Whirl Islands!
And I'd like to try to get the Lugia to be SHINY! But I'm not sure if that is possible or not? Is Lugia predetermined to be Shiny or not when I start the game, or can I soft reset to try and get it Shiny??

Hopefully someone knows! thanks

Yes its possible to get a shiny Lugia in Pokemon Crystal.
You would have to soft-reset it like any other Legendary.

The Elusive Heracross, Please help!

ok, i know in crystal heracross is crazy rare to find. but when i compare the 2nd gen pokedex of routes to find him to the pokeearth 2nd gen description of pokemon found on that route he is not shown (ex. it says he can be found on route 42 through trees but on the pokeearth list of pokemon in trees he isnt listed) could someone give me a specific route where i can for sure find heracross through blood, sweat, and tears headbutting??

Fixed DVs on errand Pokémon (?)

On the last months I have been focused on competitive Pokémon in the 2nd generation and there is something that I can't verify yet.

Do Entei, Raikou and Suicune have fixed DVs (IVs if you want) on these games?

I caught a Suicune with very low DVs and saved after that >_<
And I want to catch a Raikou with high DVs, I have weakened it already, but I don't know if the DVs are fixed when you start the game, or maybe with the first encounter...

How do you raise happiness in pokemon crystal?

In pokemon crystal, I've been trying to get an espeon and my eevee ,the one from Bill. It's at level 37 and I've given 5 vitamins. The lady in Golden Rod says
"It's friendly toward you. It looks sort of happy." Is there something I am doing wrong or do I need to do more.

On the last months I have been focused on competitive Pokémon in the 2nd generation and there is something that I can't verify yet.

Do Entei, Raikou and Suicune have fixed DVs (IVs if you want) on these games?

I caught a Suicune with very low DVs and saved after that >_<
And I want to catch a Raikou with high DVs, I have weakened it already, but I don't know if the DVs are fixed when you start the game, or maybe with the first encounter...

Does anybody knows about this?

I don't see why they would have fixed DVs.

Originally Posted by BlueEevee

In pokemon crystal, I've been trying to get an espeon and my eevee ,the one from Bill. It's at level 37 and I've given 5 vitamins. The lady in Golden Rod says
"It's friendly toward you. It looks sort of happy." Is there something I am doing wrong or do I need to do more.

This doesn't have to do with the game itself but the cartridge. My Pokemon Silver isn't working properly. It saves just fine but every time I turn it on it crashes before I even get to the title screen. When I do get it to work it crashes anyway after I play it for a little. Can anyone please explain what the problem is? If they could that'd be great. Thank you in advance.

Short of the basic and cursory suggestions of making sure the contacts in your software and hardware are clean of dirt and grit, there isn't really anything anyone can do for you. If your game is legitimate then it's simply old and damaged. If it isn't legitimate then this is usually a very telling symptom. There isn't any fix, at any rate. Cherish the time you had with it and get ready to move on.

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Never underestimate the power of stupidity, of the one and of the many.Words to|live by

Hello,
I got a question about the Sudowoodo in Route 36 in Crystal version. I've been trying to get a male to spawn, but no luck. Is this Sudowoodo always a female? I can't seem to find the answer anywhere on the internet. Thanks in advance.

SHAGGY IS CURRENTLY CATCHING UP...
I've been on away from Pokemon for a while since the termination of the Nintendo Wifi Connection. In the mean time, I'll be replaying Yellow, Crystal and Emerald. Hit me up if you're a classics junky, or if you need some help within these games