I tested a bunch of Kaidomain emitters on P60 pills using the Texas Ace Lumen Tube calibrated with Maukka lights and a Sekonic C-800-U spectrometer. Output taken at 2s from turn on.

Kdlitker XPL2 3000K V4 7A reflector P60

Mid

236 lumens

3144K

-0.0031 DUV

72.5 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.73

-23.0 R9

48.7 R12

67 Rf

99 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18

Kdlitker XPL2 3000K V4 7A reflector P60 no lens

Mid

259 lumens

3184K

-0.0046 DUV

73.0 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.80

-20.2 R9

50.0 R12

66 Rf

100 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18

Kdlitker XPL2 3000K V4 7A reflector P60

Highest

662 lumens

3179K

-0.0040 DUV

72.6 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.77

-22.1 R9

49.1 R12

67 Rf

100 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18

Kdlitker XPL2 3000K V4 7A reflector P60 no lens

Highest

728 lumens

3233K

-0.0043 DUV

72.8 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.79

-21.0 R9

49.6 R12

67 Rf

100 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18

Kdlitker XPL2 3000K U6 7A CRI80 reflector P60 no lens

low

24 lumens

3078K

-0.0013 DUV

83.2 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.59

17.2 R9

70.2 R12

80 Rf

101 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX22

Kdlitker XPL2 3000K U6 7A CRI80 reflector P60 no lens

mid

228 lumens

3156K

0.0003 DUV

82.8 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.59

15.4 R9

68.5 R12

80 Rf

101 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX23

Kdlitker XPL2 3000K U6 7A CRI80 reflector P60 no lens

Highest

623 lumens

3268K

-0.0029 DUV

83.2 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.67

18.4 R9

70.6 R12

79 Rf

102 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX24

Kdlitker 3x XPL HI 3000K T5 7C1 CRI90 P60 no lens

Low

82 lumens

2976K

0.0022 DUV

94.0 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.42

65.9 R9

79.9 R12

91 Rf

98 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX19

Kdlitker 3x XPL HI 3000K T5 7C1 CRI90 P60 no lens

Mid

371 lumens

3034K

0.0024 DUV

93.2 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.43

62.7 R9

78.8 R12

91 Rf

98 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX20

Kdlitker 3x XPL HI 3000K T5 7C1 CRI90 P60 no lens

Highest

948 lumens

3100K

0.0029 DUV

92.0 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.43

57.8 R9

77.3 R12

91 Rf

98 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX21

Kdlitker 3x 219C 4000K D240 CRI92 P60 no lens

low

24 lumens

3713K

-0.0007 DUV

94.3 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.92

74.0 R9

71.6 R12

89 Rf

98 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX25

Kdlitker 3x 219C 4000K D240 CRI92 P60 no lens

M1

106 lumens

3753K

0.0015 DUV

93.4 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.87

69.7 R9

70.4 R12

89 Rf

97 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX26

Kdlitker 3x 219C 4000K D240 CRI92 P60 no lens

M2

390 lumens

3765K

0.0020 DUV

92.6 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.84

65.7 R9

70.6 R12

89 Rf

98 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX27

Kdlitker 3x 219C 4000K D240 CRI92 P60 no lens

Highest

946 lumens

3800K

0.0030 DUV

91.4 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.80

60.2 R9

70.7 R12

89 Rf

98 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX28

Kdlitker 3x XPE-HEW 3000K Q3 7A2 CRI92 P60 no lens

low

28 lumens

3215K

-0.0017 DUV

90.9 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.58

61.1 R9

76.1 R12

89 Rf

101 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX29

Kdlitker 3x XPE-HEW 3000K Q3 7A2 CRI92 P60 no lens

mid

150 lumens

3302K

0.0009 DUV

89.9 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.58

56.3 R9

72.9 R12

89 Rf

100 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX30

Kdlitker 3x XPE-HEW 3000K Q3 7A2 CRI92 P60 no lens

Highest

468 lumens

3326K

0.0001 DUV

89.6 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.59

55.4 R9

73.4 R12

88 Rf

100 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX31

Kdlitker SST-20 3000K J3 HD2 reflector P60 no lens

low

17 lumens

3165K

-0.0017 DUV

95.4 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.53

87.4 R9

87.1 R12

92 Rf

104 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX32

Kdlitker SST-20 3000K J3 HD2 reflector P60 no lens

mid

155 lumens

3138K

-0.0015 DUV

94.6 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.50

82.7 R9

86.3 R12

91 Rf

104 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX33

Kdlitker SST-20 3000K J3 HD2 reflector P60 no lens

Highest

419 lumens

3069K

-0.0031 DUV

95.1 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.48

82.4 R9

88.6 R12

91 Rf

105 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX34

Kdlitker 3x XP-G3 8A3 2700K P60 no lens

low

55 lumens

3104K

-0.0011 DUV

74.0 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.63

-20.9 R9

49.7 R12

72 Rf

98 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX35

Kdlitker 3x XP-G3 8A3 2700K P60 no lens

mid

273 lumens

3200K

-0.0025 DUV

74.7 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.69

-17.8 R9

51.4 R12

72 Rf

98 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX36

Kdlitker 3x XP-G3 8A3 2700K P60 no lens

Highest

895 lumens

3215K

-0.0027 DUV

74.6 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.69

-18.0 R9

51.2 R12

72 Rf

98 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX37

Kdlitker 3x SST-20 3000K J3 HD2 P60 no lens

low

42 lumens

2968K

-0.0018 DUV

95.5 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.42

87.2 R9

88.6 R12

91 Rf

105 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX38

Kdlitker 3x SST-20 3000K J3 HD2 P60 no lens

mid

211 lumens

3013K

-0.0014 DUV

94.9 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 85.20

85.2 R9

87.3 R12

91 Rf

105 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX39

Kdlitker 3x SST-20 3000K J3 HD2 P60 no lens

Highest

674 lumens

2960K

-0.0022 DUV

95.0 CRI

Blue light relative amplitude 0.43

83.9 R9

88.4 R12

90 Rf

105 Rg

2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX40

These tested pretty accurate in terms of tint bin and CRI. But it's also possible that you might be getting something worst than what you want. I ordered a XML2 two years ago that was supposed to be 7A3 bin (which means rosy tint) but it ended up being far above the BBL with yellow/green tint.

It would be nice if Kaidomain can test one emitter from each batch to ensure they are getting accurately labelled bins from their suppliers. Though I know it is difficult and time consuming to do but there are cheap $200 equipment that some people on BLF have used in-lieu of a spectrometer.

SKV89, I guess the “3xXPL-HI” entries in your above table have a typo, they should read “Kdlitker 3x XPL HI 3000K T5 7C1 CRI90 P60 no lens”. I would also separate de 3x term or element from all emitter names, looks better and cleaner.

Nice information, thanks.

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SKV89, I guess the “3xXPL-HI” entries in your above table have a typo, they should read “Kdlitker 3x XPL HI 3000K T5 7C1 CRI90 P60 no lens”. I would also separate de 3x term or element from all emitter names, looks better and cleaner.

BanL, what about ∅9 mm reflector hole Osram 3030 gaskets? Can you source them? A suitable gasket for your K6 host I spoke about, let's say. A CSLPM1.TG emitter inside a K6 should make a very throwy torch.

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BanL, what about ∅9 mm reflector hole Osram 3030 gaskets? Can you source them? A suitable gasket for your K6 host I spoke about, let’s say. A CSLPM1.TG emitter inside a K6 should make a very throwy torch.

BanL, what about ∅9 mm reflector hole Osram 3030 gaskets? Can you source them? A suitable gasket for your K6 host I spoke about, let’s say. A CSLPM1.TG emitter inside a K6 should make a very throwy torch.

Given how item information is presented in KD's page, where only a part of the description is shown under the item's picture (see miscellaneous parts, for example), it would be a lot more useful to list gaskets using a different description format. People looking for gaskets mainly look for “a emitter size and/or type gasket for reflector hole diameter”, and so this information should be at the beginning of every gasket description, in my opinion. Item descriptions seem to be limited to 50 useful characters, I have just checked and any long item descriptions measures exactly 52 characters long, including two dots at the end. This way, the description of the above gaskets, which right now looks like

10mm(D) x 0.8mm(T) White Plastic Insulation Gasket..

would, for example, instead say

3030 Osram gaskets for 7mm reflector hole, 10mm(D)..

It is a lot faster to find suitable gaskets this way, and this translates into a better shopping experience in my honest opinion. The character set in the descriptions, though, has something to do with AliExpress.

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Given how item information is presented in KD’s page, where only a part of the description is shown under the item’s picture (see miscellaneous parts, for example), it would be a lot more useful to list gaskets using a different description format. People looking for gaskets mainly look for “a emitter size and/or type gasket for reflector hole diameter”, and so this information should be at the beginning of every gasket description, in my opinion. Item descriptions seem to be limited to 50 useful characters, I have just checked and any long item descriptions measures exactly 52 characters long, including two dots at the end. This way, the description of the above gaskets, which right now looks like

10mm(D) x 0.8mm(T) White Plastic Insulation Gasket..

would, for example, instead say

3030 Osram gaskets for 7mm reflector hole, 10mm(D)..

It is a lot faster to find suitable gaskets this way, and this translates into a better shopping experience in my honest opinion. The character set in the descriptions, though, has something to do with AliExpress.

Mon, 03/30/2020 – 15:49

Sure.

I will improve those keywords on the KD system.

Thank you for your advice.

I really enjoy all of you guys to give me the hints on making everything in an user friendly way.

Wellp, I see people often complains about this tint preference thing, and over time I've come to conclude that it really doesn't bothers me much. I prefer close to BBL tints, and certainly don't complain at all seeing the light from my LH351D 4000K CRI90+ flashlights which technically is slightly greenish.

My advice is try one, what can I say.

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Quick question here, not exactly because I am interested right now but anyway I think it is good to be known. I saw an S3 21700 host available at Kaidomain some days ago. As options to choose from are orange peel or smooth reflector, and body colors in black, desert sand and purple. Would love to see photographs of the latter two.

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I See that sst20 hd2 was old stock,now are in hb4,so tint less good?

Wellp, I see people often complains about this tint preference thing, and over time I’ve come to conclude that it really doesn’t bothers me much. I prefer close to BBL tints, and certainly don’t complain at all seeing the light from my LH351D 4000K CRI90+ flashlights which technically is slightly greenish.

Quick question here, not exactly because I am interested right now but anyway I think it is good to be known. I saw an S3 21700 host available at Kaidomain some days ago. As options to choose from are orange peel or smooth reflector, and body colors in black, desert sand and purple. Would love to see photographs of the latter two.