BigTuna wrote: The extension talk is b.s. They can't even extend him anyways until the summer. Any talk regarding an extension would be a verbal agreement to extend him in the summer.

It can be as simple as, will you be open to remaining with us beyond this contract, yes or no. Making a deal and vaguely inquiring about desire are different things.

Let's just say none of that has happened, then why is the media reporting it unless it's misdirection coming from the Leafs?

If it's misdirection, then you can say it's a bluff.

BigTuna wrote:If Luongo is a better option, why the hell hasn't he been traded yet?

Luo is a better goalie, whether Luo gets traded first or not doesn't change that.

Regardless, I've been on board with saying we should keep Luo for this season unless they get something that helps them now. A pick and prospect deal can be made in the summer, and even these pundits agree Luo can be had for that type of deal but VAN wants an immediate impact.

Hockey Widow wrote:According the Dreger ( take it for what it is worth) Kipper and the Leafs are close to a deal. It would see him not reporting for the balance of this season. It would include a two year extension signed after July 5th for 2 extra years at 4-5 million per year. The keys, he gets to stay home with his wife and new born until training camp. He also gets a two year extension that pays him significant money to allow him the incentive to keep playing. The deal would be a low pick and conditionals once the extension is signed. One of the conditionals would be a goalie go back if the extension is signed.

Does anyone know about this child of kippersofts? I got a buddy who's claiming the kid is sickly and that's the real reason he's set to retire and won't report if traded? If true, why would cheeseburgler want an old distracted goalie with a cap hit over the guys they got?

Hockey Widow wrote:According the Dreger ( take it for what it is worth) Kipper and the Leafs are close to a deal. It would see him not reporting for the balance of this season. It would include a two year extension signed after July 5th for 2 extra years at 4-5 million per year. The keys, he gets to stay home with his wife and new born until training camp. He also gets a two year extension that pays him significant money to allow him the incentive to keep playing. The deal would be a low pick and conditionals once the extension is signed. One of the conditionals would be a goalie go back if the extension is signed.

Does anyone know about this child of kippersofts? I got a buddy who's claiming the kid is sickly and that's the real reason he's set to retire and won't report if traded? If true, why would cheeseburgler want an old distracted goalie with a cap hit over the guys they got?

Allegedly because they would agree he doesn't have to report this season and they keep their two goalies. Then once they extend him one of their goalies goes to Calgary. Kipper then doesn't have to report to Toronto until training camp.

Hockey Widow wrote:Allegedly because they would agree he doesn't have to report this season and they keep their two goalies. Then once they extend him one of their goalies goes to Calgary. Kipper then doesn't have to report to Toronto until training camp.

It comes directly from Dreger and his sources. I call BS too.

and the media has been feasting, alleging goalie controversy in Vancouver ...... wow, is Dregs desperate for something to discuss today.

He's a very strong skater who controls the puck very well in the offensive zone, especially down low. He's more of a top 9 forward than a 2nd line winger but he's someone who can definitely help this team.

Kulemin, a first & a D prospect isn't exactly a massive haul, but something I'd live with if I'm MG.

He's a very strong skater who controls the puck very well in the offensive zone, especially down low. He's more of a top 9 forward than a 2nd line winger but he's someone who can definitely help this team.

Kulemin, a first & a D prospect isn't exactly a massive haul, but something I'd live with if I'm MG.

The 1st would be the only real value. Does Randy trade that away after the whole Kessel fiasco though?

Kipper and his family have decided he will stay in Calgary for the rest of season and then announce his retirement. No go to Toronto or anywhere else. He has had extensive talks with Toronto but decided he wants to retire after this year.