Police Appeared To Shout 'Burn This Mother' Down Before Fire Engulfed Rogue Ex-Cop's Cabinhttp://www.businessinsider.com/police-appeared-to-shout-burn-this-mother-down-before-fire-engulfed-rogue-ex-cops-cabin-2013-2/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Sun, 02 Aug 2015 17:39:15 -0400Paul Szoldrahttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/511fedb8eab8eaa030000023Brian BattlesSat, 16 Feb 2013 15:36:08 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511fedb8eab8eaa030000023
Let's play a game. Let's say that your family lives in Los Angeles. Let's say that your child is known to be a witness to a horrible crime committed by one of LAPD's finest. Suddenly your child is "anonymously reported" to the police to have drugs in their locker at school. When the LAPD get there they find enough drugs to put your kid away for ten years. Your child is killed "resisting arrest". The police report shows your child had a stolen handgun on him or her when the body was searched.
Now YOU know your child would never do any of this. Other people JUST LIKE YOU place entirely too much trust in the police and clear the officers of any wrongdoing because they are the 'only ones'.
Here is the problem and this is why the police HAVE TO BE CHECKED when they step out of line:
Not every police officer is a saint. Not every police officer is even a good person. They are human and will have human failings and human corruption. The problem is when people LIKE YOU allow them to get away with murder because they are the 'only ones' who can make life or death decisions or are somehow above the law in your mind innocent people get hurt. Innocent people get killed. I can point to a lot of historical precedent in the United States where police were allowed entirely too much leeway and completely took over entire towns and cities. If Chris Dorner did what he was accused of he deserved to be penalized under the law. Since I don't think you were there at each of the murders and I know I wasn't, we don't really know what happened. What happened to Chris Dorner was an execution. This is illegal under any circumstances.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511fe88beab8eaa828000009Brian BattlesSat, 16 Feb 2013 15:14:03 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511fe88beab8eaa828000009
Definitely. The police involved showed how professional they were when shooting at a short skinny white dude who was cleared by the cops already and two short skinny asian women when they were searching for a six foot 270 pound African American. It doesn't matter what the cops think or what you think. What matters is that a man who had not been convicted of a crime in a court of law was executed by fire by the police in California. The fact that you think this is somehow appropriate for someone who has targeted the families of the 'only ones'
shows your failure to understand American citizenship. The laws apply to everyone. From the idiot journalist who had a 30 round magazine in DC to the lowliest scumbag who is accused of rape. There are many people who have had a family member murdered in Chicago. There are many people who have had a family member murdered in New Orleans. How many of those people would you cheer on for burning down houses in Chicago and New Orleans?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511f43f4ecad04207b00002fJanetSat, 16 Feb 2013 03:31:48 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511f43f4ecad04207b00002f
How many ways can you spell LAPD?
PIG, SWINE, SCUM, MURDERERS, POShttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/511edcf7eab8ea4f6c000009Tiny22021Fri, 15 Feb 2013 20:12:23 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511edcf7eab8ea4f6c000009
They've been looking down that barrel they've shared on so many occassions with others, do you wonder if they wish that person dead and cheer at the prospect. Hold no ill will for them that finally got the chance to "FEEL WHAT ITS LIKE" to be on the recieving end of said barrel!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511d1b5e6bb3f7935f000002Steve StevensonThu, 14 Feb 2013 12:14:06 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511d1b5e6bb3f7935f000002
Sorry, the ATF is a government bureau.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511d0b746bb3f7354100000csnafubarThu, 14 Feb 2013 11:06:12 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511d0b746bb3f7354100000c
I'm sure Dorner lit the fire and burned down the house all by himself.
/s off.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511ca2466bb3f7ae7b000001GenPatton43Thu, 14 Feb 2013 03:37:26 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511ca2466bb3f7ae7b000001
You're an idiot. The words of the officers didn't start the fire, the CS grenades dids. Had they not said anything, the fire still starts but a lot less people would be overreacting. You're getting hung up on words!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511ca04169beddcf6000001bGenPatton43Thu, 14 Feb 2013 03:28:49 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511ca04169beddcf6000001b
Ahhh yes, let the CONspiracy theories begin.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c9eff69bedd816600001cGenPatton43Thu, 14 Feb 2013 03:23:27 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c9eff69bedd816600001c
Clearly he had no intention of being taken alive. If you can't see that than your just seeing what you WANT to see. Again, this is not Ruby Ridge. Even if they're saying "Burn it down", those words didn't start the fire. Had they just deployed CS gas and not said that, guess what? The fire would have still occurred. CS gas is used hundreds, if not thousands of times a year without fires starting, but here you are, all hung up on words that were spoken. Now, if it could be proven that White Phosphorous grenades were used, than that's a totally different story but there's nothing to indicate they were.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c9ccbeab8ea6302000001GenPatton43Thu, 14 Feb 2013 03:14:03 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c9ccbeab8ea6302000001
You ask any cop in this country how they'd react if one of their friends and fellow officers were murdered. Anytime a law enforcement officer is killed, regardless of what city or town, priority #1 is to find the shooter because if hes willing to kill a cop, than he'll shoot anyone.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c9c35ecad04707500001dGenPatton43Thu, 14 Feb 2013 03:11:33 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c9c35ecad04707500001d
So, when he opens fire on them, they should do what? Call the Girl Scouts and have them deliver cookies? Some of you are trying to make this out as if its another Ruby Ridge where clearly its not even close. At no point during this entire situation has he, Dorner, shown ANY regard for human life. None. Police were well within their rights.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c60a6ecad04b41000000fAdvocateEveWed, 13 Feb 2013 22:57:26 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c60a6ecad04b41000000f
I think he shot himself because if you read his manifesto he wanted revenge he wanted to win and I don't think he wanted the police to shoot him that would look like they won. So sad the whole situation and the innocent lives that were lost.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c5cee69beddac4d000011DS HolterWed, 13 Feb 2013 22:41:34 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c5cee69beddac4d000011
My post is gone as well. There wasn't anything offensive about it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c572f69beddb247000001konaWed, 13 Feb 2013 22:17:03 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c572f69beddb247000001
What is even more disturbing is that the LAPD command must have known that the whole nation would have their eyes on this, and yet they burned him. That is either the absolute height of arrogance, or the high command has no control of what is happening in the field.
Let's put it this way. This is not the LAPD's finest day. And if all police departments across this nation are thinking that it is, then we have a very large problem.
I have posted vehemently against assault weapons, and my argument was that the fear of tyranny in this country was not a real fear. I am re-considering my position.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c55356bb3f7706a000006konaWed, 13 Feb 2013 22:08:37 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c55356bb3f7706a000006
Really? You have already forgotten the two women who the cops shot up by mistake? How much do you think we're gonna have to pay for THAT?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c54b7ecad048479000004konaWed, 13 Feb 2013 22:06:31 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c54b7ecad048479000004
Imagine you were the children of one of the woman who was shot up in the car by the LAPD in a case of "mistake identity". Do you think they will be saying, oh, thank you POLICE for shooting up my mom. Thank you for not wasting time and untold $ to bother to check if the ID is properly done. This miserable POS needs to die so bad it really doesn't matter how many other people you shoot up to get him.
Do you believe they will say thank you POLICE? My bet is they will say, see you in court, you assholes.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c52eb6bb3f7f661000012EveWed, 13 Feb 2013 21:58:51 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c52eb6bb3f7f661000012
they had to defend themselves remember this guy had so much amo and they knew he was trained. Also one of there offices had been hit and killed Dorner did this to himself he said this was war. I know that there are police procedures that state if the police reasonably believe there life is in danger they can fire and defend. So sad that innocent people had to die.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c51ffeab8ea675e000019konaWed, 13 Feb 2013 21:54:55 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c51ffeab8ea675e000019
YOU are the joke. These aren't a bunch of Hatfields burning out a McCoy who's shot up their family. These are supposed to be TAX-PAYER PAID professional policeman. They are supposed to remain professional even when dealing with even the most devious criminal. Every bullet, every can of gasoline, every helicopter they use are NOT theirs, but belong to the tax payers. The tax payers have the RIGHT to insist that EVERY rule be followed.
Is it an LAPD standard procedure to burn out any one who has barricaded himself/herself inside an enclosure?
Isn't there ANY incentive to take Dorner alive so that more information can be gathered that may help prevent any future occurrence?
Is it standard LAPD procedure to open fire (to kill) on a vehicle (which happens to contain 2 innocent women) without ascertaining that the occupant is indeed the criminal? Is this the way to "show the world that if you kill cops you will pay dearly"????
I, for one, am immensely glad that I am NOT your child.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c4d43ecad04156800000dDS HolterWed, 13 Feb 2013 21:34:43 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c4d43ecad04156800000d
Things with this one are wonky at best. First, they found his wallet and id in San Diego, on Feb. 7th. Now they say they found his wallet and id in the midst of the burned out rubble - sound familiar?
Before they scrubbed his facebook page, he had posted that he hadn't killed anyone. All we know about him would suggest that above all else, he is truthful.
Something isn't right with this story. Maybe, they LAPD was trying to take out Dorner to begin with, and shot up a few people trying to make the hit - then blamed on Dorner. That would be right in character with all of the LAPD actions after of shooting up innocent people who looked nothing like Dorner.
If the wallet and id was found AGAIN at Big Bear while all else around it was burned to ash, then maybe there are good guys in the pd trying to keep him alive to testify.
Keep in mind, CNN announced that the body belonged to a female. Not Dorner. Pray he stays alive to testify.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c3b09eab8ea9831000001NickWed, 13 Feb 2013 20:16:57 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c3b09eab8ea9831000001
No, you end up fearing breaking the law.
Which is how it should be.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c396469beddef7e000001DMGWed, 13 Feb 2013 20:09:56 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c396469beddef7e000001
Once they call someone a 'terrorist' there is no more due process...it's just summary judgement and execution on the spot. One day you will need to look up judges, juries and court rooms in a history book to read about what they were. Last I heard the Constitution was a quaint document written by old men who died 100s of years ago which has no relevancy in modern day America.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c39016bb3f7e436000002NickWed, 13 Feb 2013 20:08:17 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c39016bb3f7e436000002
Lets see how enlightened and understanding you are when someone murders your friends, corworkers, and loved ones.
This guy killed an innocent woman and her husband for some crazy vendetta that they had nothing to do with. He then killed two police officers because in his mind they had wronged him and deserved it.
Protecting the innocent from the evil is a dangerous job. These men risk their lives to protect people like YOU. If you are a criminal it's a pretty tempting thing to want to kill a cop....to kill your protectors. Do you know how the police can dissuade people from doing so? By showing the world if you kill cops you will pay dearly.
The fact that anyone is showing any empathy for Dorner is absurd. It's laughable and you deserve to be laughed at for it. This man was evil. One of his last dying acts was to take YET ANOTHER life by murdering a san bernardino cop and you want to tell me that THIS MAN is a victim? You're a joke, I'd be embarrassed if you were my child.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c29e5eab8ea770b000013Mr. ObviousWed, 13 Feb 2013 19:03:49 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c29e5eab8ea770b000013
Most of these "offensive" comments weren't offensive - they basically said little more than that the police seemed to want Dorner dead, that the shooting of unarmed people in separate incidents proved their collective desire to kill him, and that there is serious reason to doubt the morality of the police...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c200569beddaa3b000014dbsmithWed, 13 Feb 2013 18:21:41 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c200569beddaa3b000014
Absolutely agree.
I don't condone anything Dorner is alleged to have done but, in this country, we aren't supposed to execute anyone without due process.
The police should be prosecuted for this; there was no justification to act as they did. We're supposed to be a country of laws.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c1b726bb3f73802000003Where are Rand Paul's delegates?Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:02:10 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c1b726bb3f73802000003
In other words, it's a problem that BI isn't interested in fixing, even though it's been going on for quite some time.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c0f09ecad042a7600000blocksyWed, 13 Feb 2013 17:09:13 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c0f09ecad042a7600000b
"Deliberately starting a fire, rather than waiting out the suspect, could be seen as an extreme measure."
COULD be seen as an extreme measure? It is arson and murder. Do you support amending the constitution to remove the 5th Amendment to due process so that cops can kill whomever they please with whatever means they desire?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c0a2769bedddf0d000001Paul SzoldraWed, 13 Feb 2013 16:48:23 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c0a2769bedddf0d000001
I just checked on this with our tech guys. It takes a number of different commenters marking it "offensive" before it shows up. The tech guys say that this happens anytime there's something controversial posted.
Basically, if people don't like a post, they'll just mark everything as offensive. I'm sure this one will be next.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c07ae69beddf104000009DMGWed, 13 Feb 2013 16:37:50 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c07ae69beddf104000009
It looks like BI has been hacked again.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c073eeab8ea8d3f000004macksey7Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:35:58 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c073eeab8ea8d3f000004
the Waco fire wasnt started by the police or the governmenthttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c00e5eab8ea9031000001VenomWed, 13 Feb 2013 16:08:53 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511c00e5eab8ea9031000001
Who is the moron in charge of this article? why have the majority of the comments been flagged as offensive? They most certainly were not. I know for sure mine was not. Blodget get your house in order.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bf6cdecad04574a000002srslyyepWed, 13 Feb 2013 15:25:49 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bf6cdecad04574a000002
Wheelchair-bound hispanic lady in a wooded cabin shooting at the police. Why do you have over 20 upvotes? Are you really that ignorant? People like you make me want to be a cop.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bf0cdeab8ead206000033oneputzWed, 13 Feb 2013 15:00:13 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bf0cdeab8ead206000033
Thank God they killed this POS. Saves us tons of money and time. Newspapers are pissed because they could have run headlines for years, making this piece of crap out to be a hero. Glad we don't have to listen to him spew his vomit about how he is a victim and it is everybody's fault but his own. Good riddance of this piece of garbage, THANK YOU POLICE!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511beed06bb3f7922b000018mike barkerWed, 13 Feb 2013 14:51:44 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511beed06bb3f7922b000018
Really? Who cares? Just another expensive trial we won't have to pay for.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bebd869bedd733d00000czubsWed, 13 Feb 2013 14:39:04 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bebd869bedd733d00000c
They gave him time to come out and he decided not to come out, so they burned the house down. I have no problem with this.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511be7e969bedd8234000012VenomWed, 13 Feb 2013 14:22:17 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511be7e969bedd8234000012
The behavior by the LAPD and other people during this whole incident has been suspect and extremely disturbing. They had absolutely no intention of taking him alive at any point during this whole incident and seemed hellbent on killing him and had no qualms about if they killed innocent people along the way. In a way this just proves what he was saying about them. If they did not care if they behaved in this manner while they were front and center on the news and TV for the whole world to see, then imagine how they behave when they are operating out of the public eye?
God help you if you end up on their bad side and you are just a poor member of the general public. I can only imagine the other horror stories about them that people have endured or the ones that will never be told because they are dead.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511be709ecad040f2e000008icyhotWed, 13 Feb 2013 14:18:33 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511be709ecad040f2e000008
YES.......please read what I posted just minutes after your post....http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511be6c769bedd7e2c000026icyhotWed, 13 Feb 2013 14:17:27 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511be6c769bedd7e2c000026
"Innocent till proven guilty", and all the opinions of what the police should have been and done, regardless of the police department involved is so ridiculous. To prove my point: Right now, as you read this, pickup your phone, call your wife, gf, your kids......no answer till you see the t.v. or get a email update as to a shooting. "Damn that's my house!" Remember "innocent till proven guilty". I pray that none of us have that happen, but damn people this sicko laid his plan out, he showed he met business, and now the public has to by the last estimates provide almost $60,000 a yr while he sits in jail, free food, free clothing, complain about this and that.....Better yet, you go tell the families of the dead officers, and or civilians, "you know the guy who shot your wife/gf/husband? well he is innocent till proven guilty." Yes this is a democracy,but some wacko's take it a bit far..http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511be6916bb3f7631800002aKelleyWed, 13 Feb 2013 14:16:33 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511be6916bb3f7631800002a
Thank God, can you imagine the millions of dollars, months, maybe years on end of listening to this piece of crap spew his hatred for the US. A victocrat of the first degree, it is always everybody else's fault. blame everyone but himself. What a tool, good riddance. Thank you POLICE for putting an end to this miserable POS and sparing us untold $ and time.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511be44ceab8ea9b6b000014Paul SzoldraWed, 13 Feb 2013 14:06:52 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511be44ceab8ea9b6b000014
He allegedly killed 4 people. In the United States, we are afforded due process and are innocent until proven guilty. Guilt is proven in a court, not in a report from the police or the media.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511be23169bedde423000007martelWed, 13 Feb 2013 13:57:53 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511be23169bedde423000007
Waco and Ruby Ridge don't fit into the same category as this guy. He murdered 4 people. Do you really expect the police, who probably have families and children, to run into a house with a heavily armed nut just to please all the bleeding hearts out there. Spare me. Light the b*stard up. And then do a jig on top of the asheshttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/511be22569bedd1429000001holtWed, 13 Feb 2013 13:57:41 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511be22569bedd1429000001
Add's a whole new meaning to innocent till proven GUILTY ???http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511be13decad040d2100001egodsofoldWed, 13 Feb 2013 13:53:49 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511be13decad040d2100001e
Lol, that would be fitting as we remember that the police have no Constitutional duty to protect the citizens.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511be02b69bedd902300000fMr. ObviousWed, 13 Feb 2013 13:49:15 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511be02b69bedd902300000f
Duh - they didn't want to take him alive, they wanted to serve as a hit squad and assassinate him on sight. The fact that they gunned down three innocent people and announced that they would likely stop all black males with bald heads in the LA metro area during the Dorner hunt proved their murderous, criminal intent.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bdf4eecad04c41e000012sweetdougWed, 13 Feb 2013 13:45:34 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bdf4eecad04c41e000012
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If this is true, the questions have to be asked,
Who planned the op?
Who gave the order?
Cops will/should be charged with murdering this man.
Because if they're not…
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V-Vhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bdd366bb3f79308000010yo!Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:36:38 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bdd366bb3f79308000010
Modern day lynching by the law.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bdc5f6bb3f7960600001fjeffriesWed, 13 Feb 2013 13:33:03 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bdc5f6bb3f7960600001f
Anyone else concerned with how militarized the police seemed to be on this operation? Why is the Department of Homeland Security working with police forces across the United States? Why were there reports of drones being used to find and take this suspect out? The United States is turning a corner and I don't think it is where I want to be.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bdbb9eab8ea6257000014JudgeJuryExecutuionersWed, 13 Feb 2013 13:30:17 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bdbb9eab8ea6257000014
Everything about this entire case is the problem. Let's just hope the cops don't decide that you need to be killed. This is VERY disturbing.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bda5cecad04c51100000fjamesusnvetWed, 13 Feb 2013 13:24:28 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bda5cecad04c51100000f
WOW, just wow. This does on the other hand add a whole new host of questions to similar incidents like Waco.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bd582eab8ea7d4a00001akrivitswWed, 13 Feb 2013 13:03:46 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bd582eab8ea7d4a00001a
Ok, so what's the problem? They were surely going to fill his ass up with lead anyway....might as well save the tax payer a buck.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bd23669bedd427a000017Who's inside?Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:49:42 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bd23669bedd427a000017
What are the chances a wheelchair-bound, elderly Hispanic lady was the only one in the house?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bd1a969beddd67f000001DMGWed, 13 Feb 2013 12:47:21 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bd1a969beddd67f000001
I'm surprised they didn't just fire a hellfire missile from a drone. They could have saved all the time, trouble and gas of driving up there but I guess then they wouldn't have had front row seats to watch the fire. As good as video feeds have become nothing beats being there, feeling the heat, smelling the smoke and screaming burn MFer, burn. As it turns out Orwell's vision of the future was pretty understated.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bced5ecad04af7e00000aPrintus MaximusWed, 13 Feb 2013 12:35:17 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bced5ecad04af7e00000a
Perhaps they should change their motto to:
"To Serve, Protect, Judge and Execute".http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bced06bb3f78a6f000007Steve StevensonWed, 13 Feb 2013 12:35:12 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bced06bb3f78a6f000007
My comment was flagged as offensive?
Really?
Stating how you can trust the government and police officers to protect and serve after they burn down a house with someone in it?
Regardless of the crime they committed, they are to be given a trial by their peers.
When we allow reckless law enforcement, just look at NYC for an authoritarian police force, we end up fearing those who are SUPPOSED to be there to protect and serve.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bcd74ecad04207a000014Lucius ModernusWed, 13 Feb 2013 12:29:24 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bcd74ecad04207a000014
this whole situation is intensely riot worthy.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bcc68ecad04657c000008LizWed, 13 Feb 2013 12:24:56 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bcc68ecad04657c000008
It's a little disturbing how much the LAPD seem to have personally invested in catching this guy...seems more like blind revenge.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bcb9969bedd0c6f000004godsofoldWed, 13 Feb 2013 12:21:29 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bcb9969bedd0c6f000004
It's pretty clear from the police firing on innocent civilians without confirmation that their plan was to execute Dorner no matter what.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bc9476bb3f74862000010Steve StevensonWed, 13 Feb 2013 12:11:35 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511bc9476bb3f74862000010
Remember you can trust your government and police officers.
They are here to protect and serve.
Just look at Waco.