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Anyone taking RG3 over Luck is an idiot who knows nothing about NFL history.

Time and time again, the pure, smart pocket passer who can read a D has shown to be what teams need to win it all. That's Luck hands down.

The flashy dual threat has yet to lead a team to the Super Bowl. RG3 is not a better prospect than Vick. And if you are drafting, who are you taking: Vick or Peyton/Rogers/Brees/Brady? I'll take the pocket passer who can read a D. Luck has been and is the best QB prospect since Peyton. You would have to be the biggest idiot GM in history to pass on him for RG3.

So, the three camps of people who say they would want RG3 over Luck are: (1) idiots; (2) contrarians who just want to be edgy by picking against the conventional wisdom; and (3) bitter losers of the Luck sweepstakes who are trying to rationalize and make themselves feel good about the prospect of getting RG3 instead of getting Luck.

Anyone taking RG3 over Luck is an idiot who knows nothing about NFL history.

Time and time again, the pure, smart pocket passer who can read a D has shown to be what teams need to win it all. That's Luck hands down.

The flashy dual threat has yet to lead a team to the Super Bowl. RG3 is not a better prospect than Vick. And if you are drafting, who are you taking: Vick or Peyton/Rogers/Brees/Brady? I'll take the pocket passer who can read a D. Luck has been and is the best QB prospect since Peyton. You would have to be the biggest idiot GM in history to pass on him for RG3.

So, the three camps of people who say they would want RG3 over Luck are: (1) idiots; (2) contrarians who just want to be edgy by picking against the conventional wisdom; and (3) bitter losers of the Luck sweepstakes who are trying to rationalize and make themselves feel good about the prospect of getting RG3 instead of getting Luck.

RG III can and will be a great pocket passer, and he's very intelligent

lol i'd take this bet in a heart beat. baylor is no slouch academic school and griffin is about to get his masters. far less talented QBs have made it longer than five years in this league and far less intelligent ones have as well

RG III can and will be a great pocket passer, and he's very intelligent

RG3 might be intelligent, but there is a difference between native intelligence and ability to read a D and run an offense.

RG3 runs a gimmicky college offense. And he does it from the shotgun spread (easy) with no audibles. And if the first read or two isn't there, he runs.

Sure, he can sit and the pocket and throw a catchable ball. But that does not equate to RUNNING an offense or reading a defense.

It is without dispute that Luck can do it because he has done it. He is the epitome of a prospect that fits in the Peyton/Brady/Brees/Rogers mold. He can run an O, audible and shred a D.

RG3 has never shown he can do that and it is a FACT that the attention on him is largely driven by his dual threat nature. Because if you just wanted someone who could put up big passing numbers in a gimmick spread offense, Case Keenum would be on par with RG3. But he's not. Because everyone wants RG3 dual threat. And, as I noted, history conclusively establishes you are better off with a QB like Luck than Griffin if your goal is to win it all.

Again:

So, the three camps of people who say they would want RG3 over Luck are: (1) idiots; (2) contrarians who just want to be edgy by picking against the conventional wisdom; and (3) bitter losers of the Luck sweepstakes who are trying to rationalize and make themselves feel good about the prospect of getting RG3 instead of getting Luck.

(And, someone could be in more than 1 of those camps as Redskins fans drooling over RG3 are in camp #1 and #3)

lol i'd take this bet in a heart beat. baylor is no slouch academic school and griffin is about to get his masters. far less talented QBs have made it longer than five years in this league and far less intelligent ones have as well

Native intelligence and good academic performance is not really the issue. I like the kid. He has a good head on his shoulders and seems bright.

The issue here is that he has never shown that he can run an NFL offense. That doesn't mean he sucks. It just means you cannot possibly see him as a better prospect than Luck.

Luck is the best QB prospect since Peyton Manning. RG3 is not. There have been a litany of dual threat and spread QBs over the years that are equal to better prospects than RG3.

Again, the discussion is not "can RG3 be good." He might. I think his size is going to be what really kills him. But he certainly seems like someone that is easy to cheer for.

The discussion is about whether RG3 is in the same ballpark as Luck. And the answer there is clearly no.

Yeah, they did. And Cam Newton is 5-9 with below 60% completion percentage and a 1:1 TD/Int ratio. But he's awesome because he has the record for QB rushing TDs!

Me, I'll take a pocket passer. You know, the ones who actually win NFL championships.

I think we have a proud member of category 1 and 3 here, folks.

lol, if luck starts next year, would you take a bet that luck will out preform cams numbers as a rookie?

having a season like cam is, is unheard of as a rookie and 5-9 is not too bad an improvement for the worst team in football from a year before. compound this with the fact that he came in as starter from day one and did what he has without mini camps and working with the offensive coordinator due to the lock out and it is remarkable that he was on pace with brady, brees, and rodgers for as long as he was.

there is nothing cam has done/not done that you can point to and say he is the reason they are not better than 5-9, in fact, they are 5-9 almost exclusively because of him

Yeah, they did. And Cam Newton is 5-9 with below 60% completion percentage and a 1:1 TD/Int ratio. But he's awesome because he has the record for QB rushing TDs!

Me, I'll take a pocket passer. You know, the ones who actually win NFL championships.

I think we have a proud member of category 1 and 3 here, folks.

5-9 is the team record. Cam Newton is part of the team, but he isn't solely responsible for that record. Carolina was a very bad team last year and had a coaching change. No one expected them to have a winning record this season.

So, Cam is not far off the pace at being one of the more accurate rookies. I don't think anyone can jump to any conclusions on how well he will do the rest of his career just because he is currently below 60%. As if 60% is easy for rookies to attain.