Snapper Carr:cman: I am gonna wait for the "Better safe than sorry" portion of the Right to come out and defend ATF actions

Actually the ATF is one of the few agencies that both the left and the right generally agree should be taken out to the country and allowed to spend the rest of their days living comfortably on a nice farm with grass and lots of space to run around and stuff.

The raids on the Myers' properties were staged as part of an investigation into the death of 32-year-old Keith Richard Ratliff, who was found dead on January 3. Ratliff and the Myers family were co-owners of gun producer FPS Industries; Ratliff was also executive producer of the FPSRussia channel, acquiring or creating rare weapons for the show.Ratliff was killed by a single bullet to the head. Though a large number of firearms were found at Ratliff's business premises, the murder weapon was not among them. The investigation continues, and so far no names of possible suspects or persons of interest have been revealed.

There's more to it than the man just hassling some youtube redneck who likes making things go boom.

Blowing up shiat purely for the lulz is the new definition of "malicious" now? Oh, ffs.

I would suggest that Kyle's explosion vids are the least malicious explosions of all time.

/Of all time!

I have been informed numerous times on Fark that firearms and explosions cannot be used for entertainment value, as they are designed to kill. Based on that, I'm afraid that I must agree with the BATF here, and ignore the 4 million subscribers to that channel. I must further conclude that FPSRussia has a very, very small penis.

The raids on the Myers' properties were staged as part of an investigation into the death of 32-year-old Keith Richard Ratliff, who was found dead on January 3. Ratliff and the Myers family were co-owners of gun producer FPS Industries; Ratliff was also executive producer of the FPSRussia channel, acquiring or creating rare weapons for the show.Ratliff was killed by a single bullet to the head. Though a large number of firearms were found at Ratliff's business premises, the murder weapon was not among them. The investigation continues, and so far no names of possible suspects or persons of interest have been revealed.

There's more to it than the man just hassling some youtube redneck who likes making things go boom.

Yeah, sounds like they used the guns/explosives as a pretense to search for a murder weapon.

SN1987a goes boom:Yeah, sounds like they used the guns/explosives as a pretense to search for a murder weapon.

Considering he has a wide collection of various types of guns, you'd think they would've grabbed one with the right caliber for ballistics testing if that had been the only reason. Also, BATF isn't really into murder investigations -- that's out of their realm.

It seems more like they used the local sheriffs to justify it, and brought BATF in just to see what they could find. Fishing.

The raids on the Myers' properties were staged as part of an investigation into the death of 32-year-old Keith Richard Ratliff, who was found dead on January 3. Ratliff and the Myers family were co-owners of gun producer FPS Industries; Ratliff was also executive producer of the FPSRussia channel, acquiring or creating rare weapons for the show.Ratliff was killed by a single bullet to the head. Though a large number of firearms were found at Ratliff's business premises, the murder weapon was not among them. The investigation continues, and so far no names of possible suspects or persons of interest have been revealed.

There's more to it than the man just hassling some youtube redneck who likes making things go boom.

I'll bet you an internet that there probably isn't.

Harassing people is the ATF's stock and trade. Specifically, harassing people who aren't known criminals and won't be prone to shooting back. The agency doesn't want another Ruby Ridge or Waco, it only needs names to fill out its quota.My conspiracy theory says they only raided him more because he was making his presence known on youtube.They were hoping for some missing paperwork so they could score a positive headline.

Perfect sense, actually. If that letter of law is upheld you don't get people getting their doors kicked in so an ATF agent can say "shucks, got nuthin" or cops raiding tomato and squash grow setups in peoples basements.

I have a question for everyone. If someone posted a video that showed a group robbing a store (and it looked like it was real), do you think police should investigate those people? Should they check their house to see if they really stole the stuff in the video?

I bet almost everyone here would say yes. But because this is something some people in this thread identify themselves with they are blind to see it's the same thing.

Corvus:I have a question for everyone. If someone posted a video that showed a group robbing a store (and it looked like it was real), do you think police should investigate those people? Should they check their house to see if they really stole the stuff in the video?

Because every time some criminal has done this and it gets posted on FARK the thread is always "what a dumbass posting they were breaking the law on video tape" not once have I seen someone on FARK say "OMG the cops shouldn't have arrested him or raided his house".

Corvus:I have a question for everyone. If someone posted a video that showed a group robbing a store (and it looked like it was real), do you think police should investigate those people? Should they check their house to see if they really stole the stuff in the video?

I bet almost everyone here would say yes. But because this is something some people in this thread identify themselves with they are blind to see it's the same thing.

Dr. Goldshnoz:I like to molest children. that doesn't mean I am a bad person.

Now I am ready to discuss this with you if you want to discuss it like an adult. If instead you want to lie and pretend I said things I never did, it shows you don't have points to back up your actual position and instead want to misrepresent and name call.