There's also the "nv" driver, which is nVidia's official open source driver.

I have "nouveau" driver build into kernel, but I don't see there "nv" driver?
Is "nv" still develop? I can not seem to find instruction on how to use "nv" on Gentoo.
I can find "nvidia" or "nouveau" but not "nv"_________________#Thelma

There's also the "nv" driver, which is nVidia's official open source driver.

I have "nouveau" driver build into kernel, but I don't see there "nv" driver?
Is "nv" still develop? I can not seem to find instruction on how to use "nv" on Gentoo.
I can find "nvidia" or "nouveau" but not "nv"

There's also the "nv" driver, which is nVidia's official open source driver.

I have "nouveau" driver build into kernel, but I don't see there "nv" driver?
Is "nv" still develop? I can not seem to find instruction on how to use "nv" on Gentoo.
I can find "nvidia" or "nouveau" but not "nv"

nv is an xorg driver, you wont find it in the kernel.

I see, so I suppose to only change in make.conf
VIDEO_CARDS="nv"
I rebuild the xorg-server and drivers but it did not change anything, still blank screen.
Do I have to remove "nouveau" from the kernel?_________________#Thelma

in general, yes
and there is more to nv than just building xf86-video-nv (the kernel has to be set up correctly - i forget the settings offhand)

though id be somewhat interested in figuring out what's broken/breaking with nouveau

I would be curious to know it as well, what/who broke the "nouveau" I filed a bug but it might take them a while to figure it out.
Sometimes I have an impression that Gentoo doesn't have a good quality products testing procedures. I wasted more then one day on this and wasn't able to solve it, so I switched to "nvidia".
Problem like this sometimes make me think if life with Windows wouldn't be easier.

Solution to long lasting Linux box might to to install it and forget the upgrades as they tend to break the system at least on Gentoo._________________#Thelma

I would be curious to know it as well, what/who broke the "nouveau" I filed a bug but it might take them a while to figure it out.
Sometimes I have an impression that Gentoo doesn't have a good quality products testing procedures. I wasted more then one day on this and wasn't able to solve it, so I switched to "nvidia".
Problem like this sometimes make me think if life with Windows wouldn't be easier.

Solution to long lasting Linux box might to to install it and forget the upgrades as they tend to break the system at least on Gentoo.

Actually the problem is that you're throwing money at a well known FOSS-hostile hardware company and then complaining about the volunteer-run OS you get for free not being able to run said broken hardware properly, but keep telling yourself it's everyone here's fault if it makes you feel better.

How exactly are they "hostile"? They simply don't have an open source strategy for Geforce cards (Tegra is a different matter). That's it. Their position is "we will neither help nor hinder nouveau development". I don't see any hostility in that, apathy at most.

Also, it's not like the intel driver is always flawless, there's plenty of "updating to kernel X gives me a black screen on my intel graphics" posts around. Software, especially software for driving complex hardware such as graphics, has bugs. That's all there is to it, no hostility.

I would be curious to know it as well, what/who broke the "nouveau" I filed a bug but it might take them a while to figure it out.
Sometimes I have an impression that Gentoo doesn't have a good quality products testing procedures. I wasted more then one day on this and wasn't able to solve it, so I switched to "nvidia".
Problem like this sometimes make me think if life with Windows wouldn't be easier.

Solution to long lasting Linux box might to to install it and forget the upgrades as they tend to break the system at least on Gentoo.

Actually the problem is that you're throwing money at a well known FOSS-hostile hardware company and then complaining about the volunteer-run OS you get for free not being able to run said broken hardware properly, but keep telling yourself it's everyone here's fault if it makes you feel better.

What I'm trying too imply is that we are releasing (stabilizing) those updates too fast without proofing it at all.
If you look through the forum you will notice I'm not the only one caught off guard by this bug.

I don't mind to volunteer as a tester for Gentoo community for the benefit of all, if they ask me to.
I can provide them with the hardware I have.
There must be a better approach to testing the package not just stabilizing it blindly and causing problems._________________#Thelma

I also have a problem with the nouveau driver after upgrading xorg server. Xorg pukes on startup. Everything was working fine before the upgrade but after upgrading I get the following error in my Xorg log:

I suggest you switch to "nvidia" as I did. I filed a bug with Gentoo but when and if it is going to be fixed, nobody knows.
Just dump that noverau and go with "nvidia". You have to remove "nouveau" from the kernel first._________________#Thelma

How exactly are they "hostile"? They simply don't have an open source strategy for Geforce cards (Tegra is a different matter). That's it. Their position is "we will neither help nor hinder nouveau development". I don't see any hostility in that, apathy at most.

The drivers for most of their "nforce" motherboards also had to be reverse-engineered. Things like AC97/HDA sound, and ethernet. There's no trade secrets in that kind of hardware.

I suggest you switch to "nvidia" as I did. I filed a bug with Gentoo but when and if it is going to be fixed, nobody knows.
Just dump that noverau and go with "nvidia". You have to remove "nouveau" from the kernel first.

I **was** going to try that. But when I did an emerge -p nvidia-drivers to see if it was possible, it wanted to downgrade xorg server back to 1.12. I am running an older geforce4 card. I think I should have waited to upgrade X for a while, but I wanted to upgrade tigervnc and it required X 1.13. Now it looks like something has to go.

Nobody in this thread has made mention of the kernel version they are using.

Nouveau is working fine here (1.04), with xorg 1.13, and gentoo-sources 3.6.6, as well as 3.7-rcX

Could well be that you need a sufficiently new kernel to work with newer versions of the nouveau X driver.

I was thinking that I should try that next. I am using kernel version 2.6.35-gentoo-r12. Perhaps it is time to move up to version 3. Until now everything has worked fine so no reason to upgrade. Looks like it's time now.

The drivers for most of their "nforce" motherboards also had to be reverse-engineered. Things like AC97/HDA sound, and ethernet. There's no trade secrets in that kind of hardware.

That's ancient history. It's silly to bring that up now. After they saw the silliness of their ways, Nvidia themselves contributed to the forcedeth driver.

Nowadays, Nvidia is working on an open-source Tegra driver. So like I said, there's no hostility whatsoever. That the Geforce driver remains closed has to do with the codebase being oooooold, and being covered by contracts and NDAs with third parties. So even if Nvidia wanted to do something about it, they can't. Tegra is proof of that - it's a new design, so the stuff that's preventing the release of docs and/or code regarding Geforce doesn't apply, hence open source Tegra drivers.

nouveau driver in kernel 3.5.7 is working fine here, with
a geforce GE6150se (nforce 430 gpu) and with a
PNY PCIe-x16 card with an nvidia g86 chip. nvidia-drivers
is not installed, no framebuffer drivers are enabled
in the kernel except the nouveau internal one (framebuffer
functions that do not depend on a particular framebuffer
driver are enabled). xorg-server-1.13.0-r1,
xf86-video-nouveau-1.0.4.

My nouveau and pci drivers are built-in, not modules, and
I pass this on the kernel command line in grub.conf:

Code:

video=640x480-8@75

(If you have more than one video output, you may need
to figure out the "connector" syntax for the one that you
want to use. I only have one hooked up, the kernel finds
it without specifiying it. The monitor supports 640x480
with 8-bit color at 75hz in text mode. X changes the video
mode when it starts up to whatever I have it configured with
in the desktop environment.)_________________TIA

I just finished upgrading the kernel to 3.5.7. It was pretty painless, and when I rebooted, everything worked like a charm. I guess it really was time to upgrade the kernel. Thanks for the help and all the suggestions. This is why I love working with Gentoo, help is always just a forum post away. Thanks again my fellow nerds

I have to agree. I was very frustrated after the recent xorg-server and drivers upgrade, but I realized that I had been dragging my feet on moving away from my very stable 2.6.34-r12 Gentoo Sources installation. I upgraded to 3.5.7 and X started flawlessly._________________Andy Figueroa
andy@andyfigueroa.net Working with Unix since 1983.