I'm of the opinion that even should RJ end his exile from the foundry, he should shutter this project and move on. Marvaddin has turned this whole process into a farce, and oaktown's 100% right about the abuse of power going on here. If marv's totally okay with having his country represented by the bar-none ugliest map on this site, if he's so up his own ass about his artistic genius that he can't see that RJ is producing a map that makes the original look like cave paintings, then let the revamp as a whole die.

I realise that this may seem like an unfeeling moment to say this, with respect to RJ, but...

I am willing to revamp the map using the one I made for the contest. It would be better than the current one we have (although not this one, I'll be the first to admit). It was also the one that Marvaddin said he liked best and was "Simple, but beautiful. Loved it." Ergo, he likely would be willing to work with me on it.

It looked like this.

Click image to enlarge.

Should I have a go at it? As I really really do not like marvaddin's one... no offence to him.

Reputation cleared. Never let it be said that Team CC don't investigate fairly.Although they take bloody forever to do it...

no offense on all the others but it looks like this site has lost its greatest map maker, this could easily have been avoided. The blame for this is not marvaddin's - it lays solely with team cc for the way that this and other events have been handled - hopefully rj's actions will be a wake up call although right now i am fairly pessimistic

Don't now why people on here don't like being cooks, remember under siege: A former SEAL, now cook, is the only person who can stop a gang of terrorists when they sieze control of a US Navy battleship.

rebelman wrote:no offense on all the others but it looks like this site has lost its greatest map maker, this could easily have been avoided. The blame for this is not marvaddin's - it lays solely with team cc for the way that this and other events have been handled - hopefully rj's actions will be a wake up call although right now i am fairly pessimistic

hmmm i have been resisting replying to this, as bickering is not helpful in resolving this! But what is to lose really... some of the most beautiful and progressive maps ever to grace these forums have been taken away from us... and likely will not be back!

So, although the set-up of the competition (Agreement on veto etc and also the taking of the images to a broader vote) may have been a fairly major mistake.

If you give a jealous lover a gun, you may share culpability when he shoots his beautiful wife!... But the chap who pulls the trigger should take his share too!

pamoa wrote:Sound bit like a vulture call over a fresh dead body, not very delicate from you Mjinga At least could you ask the question without putting the image!

I thought it might seem that way, hence why I said:

I realise that this may seem like an unfeeling moment to say this, with respect to RJ, but...

and gave the reason why I thought it should be said anyway:

As I really really do not like marvaddin's one... no offence to him.

I’m not circling, I just see no reason why someone cannot take over for RJ. I presume he means what he says about leaving over with maps. If I left the foundry, I would mean it, and not come back. Therefore, why not get someone else to take over as soon as possible? It’s efficient.

edbeard wrote: if we're going to go with a different one, might as well use one of the other two finalists

I absolutely agree with you: I would rather see Oaktown pick it up than me. I did, however assume from his post that he was unwilling to work with the marvaddin veto and was therefore unlikely to try. I am willing to work within the veto, and I humbly put forth the opinion that this map, however inadequate compared to the other finalists, is better than the original.

Reputation cleared. Never let it be said that Team CC don't investigate fairly.Although they take bloody forever to do it...

I have an update almost ready to post. I've reworked the borders so they are flat. Marv wanted me to use this skeletal map, which I did. I hope to post the update soon, just been really busy with work.

RjBeals wrote:I have an update almost ready to post. I've reworked the borders so they are flat. Marv wanted me to use this skeletal map, which I did. I hope to post the update soon, just been really busy with work.

Well I redrew the borders, but haven't posted the update yet. I stated working on getting the correct spellings in, but my font was all capitals - so i was struggling with that a bit. I'll get around to it.

Hello! Well, I'm new here in the game, but I saw this topic and wanted to help. I am brasilian, and any doubts just ask to me.

Just answering, the cedilha is never capitalized, cause it can't be used as the first letter of the word. But, even when all the letters are capitalized you need to keep the accent marks. So, Foz do Iguaçu and São Luiz continue to be FOZ DO IGUAÇU and SÃO LUIZ. The accent marks are very important in portuguese, in the writing and in the pronounce, so plz, if possible, write then in the map.

nature wrote:Hello! Well, I'm new here in the game, but I saw this topic and wanted to help. I am brasilian, and any doubts just ask to me.

Just answering, the cedilha is never capitalized, cause it can't be used as the first letter of the word. But, even when all the letters are capitalized you need to keep the accent marks. So, Foz do Iguaçu and São Luiz continue to be FOZ DO IGUAÇU and SÃO LUIZ. The accent marks are very important in portuguese, in the writing and in the pronounce, so plz, if possible, write then in the map.