53% of democrats want someone else to give them something for nothing. It’s that simple. I’d be willing to pay higher taxes to live apart from these people and have little or no interaction. They suck the spirit out of living.

Socialism and communism never work. They are backwards on THE LAW OF EFFECT. THE LAW OF EFFECT shows us that generally you receive more of the behavior that you reward and less of the behavior that you punish. If you punish those who work hard by taking more of their money to give to those who aren’t working, then people will not work hard. If you reward those who don’t work, then you will have more people who don’t work.
Socialism and communism are lies. People who want money and power, and can’t get it quick enough for their tastes in their present culture, then start yammering about redistributing wealth. In each and every case, if they get that power and money, they just become dictators. And the people suffer.

10 posted on 12/05/2012 5:45:53 PM PST by blueunicorn6
("A crack shot and a good dancer")

Well, first of all few people really understand the definition. Or have their own definition.

Secondly if “socialism” is equated with “healthcare as a basic right, like national defense” then yes, there are a lot of people who may not like Obamacare but simply are never going to be able to afford healthcare otherwise. Given the option between Obamacare, or a system like England or Canada has, and NOTHING, darn few are going to decide on the latter.

And despite the sentiment often prevailing in FR, there is a lot of unease at the fact a CEO now earns far more than their typical worker, compared to a few generations ago. The canard that some use is “Look at how well off the poor are, they have TV’s, Cable, 21” rims”, and “I don’t care how rich Gates is, I’m doing much better than my father did, why should I care if he had 50 billion in the bank”? Both arguments that work great on FR, Townhall or like places but are laughable at best outside of preaching to the converted.
The uber-rich might have well overplayed their hand, the fellow who owns Papa Johns is a good example; free marketeers seem to admire the guy, most of the people I know and work with would gladly pay 50 cents more for a pizza to have it made and delivered by someone who could go to the hospital if they needed to, or even just stay home sick with pay instead of being part time with no benefits.

I’m old enough to remember the Cold War, and know enough history to realize how badly the USSR messed up everything outside of brute force imperialism,,, but the people born the year the wall fell down are 22 now, the USSR might as well be Nazi Germany or the Roman Republic. And the acolytes of Rand and Von Mieses might do well to observe how well Bismark co-opted the socialist and labor unionist tide,

What a great run this Nation had while changing the World for the better. Now, I suggest all the producers start thinking about protecting their assets. That is what I'm about. I believe there is no way back. The "takers" are now in control and I see no political movement that will change that. Bless the TEA Party and other conservatives, but they are pi**ing in the wind with the Republicans.

As my wife keeps telling me, to paraphrase, "enjoy what remains and enjoy the important things like our own relationship along with our little doggy". She agrees with being prepared, but has brought me back down from the lows of depression about Bambi being re-elected by the "gimmes".

We lost; they won. So be it. Protect your assets and your family. Do what it takes, because the end of the American dream is already upon us. It will only get worse from here...good luck, patriots.

18 posted on 12/05/2012 6:01:44 PM PST by A Navy Vet
(Since the "Takers" won, it's now every man for himself.)

The truth “IS”... most Americans have no idea what socialism is.. and even less what communism is..
OR that communism “IS” socialism.. or that democracy is a lie..
No democracy has ever been democratic..

Democracy is the road to socialism. -Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism.
The goal of socialism is communism. -V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism .-Karl Marx

21 posted on 12/05/2012 6:21:48 PM PST by hosepipe
(This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)