I've used micronized mono with good results but it's hard on my stomach. You guys try creatine magnesium chelate?

yup bro, I've tried it in controlled labs Green Magnitude. One of the main reasons I tried it was because of the "no bloating" from it, but it actually did bloat me. Can't explain how or why, but I've tried it a few times before, and it bloats me every single time, lol.

a study from The Victoria University's Center for Rehabilitation, Exercise and Sports Science conducted a similar experiment.
With Whey protein and Creatine together.http://www.the-aps.org/press/conference/eb03/12.htm <This one I found and I'm actually a lil shocked with the great results from the WHE/CRE combo

Conclusions

Experienced resistance-trained males supplementing with CrCHO, W and CrW achieved greater increases in strength and lean mass following 11-weeks of training compared to a CHO supplement, with changes being enhanced by the combination of creatine and whey compared to whey alone. Supplementation with CrCHO, W and CrW resulted in a greater increase in CSA in all fiber types assessed, and these increases strongly correlated with the strength gains. This research was supported by AST Sports Science.

I used micronized mono (1k) for a long time and loved it. I tried out CEE and I dont really care for it, plus it tastes like SH. I would buy more mono but I am too cheap lol. maybe next time. I feel that the CEE still works very well for me but maybe not as well as the mono. I can't really compare side by side but I grew alot on the mono.

Neovar has stellar reviews from just about everyone who has used it. It has a nutrient repartioning effect to it which, when taken with some carbs, could help keep bloat low and give you a pump as well.

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Depends on what you eat, and how much you eat with each meal. I believe, generally, there is ~5g (give or take) per kilo of RAW meat, whether it be red meat, or fish. When it is cooked, however, the creatine is broken down.

A little over a kilo of beef will contain 5g of creatine. I believe both glycogen and creatine is higher in grass fed beef, but I'm not sure by how much. As for the other two, I have absolutely no idea, but I'm sure it's in the same range.

Neovar has stellar reviews from just about everyone who has used it. It has a nutrient repartioning effect to it which, when taken with some carbs, could help keep bloat low and give you a pump as well.

I didn't get much from Neovar to be honest. I noticed it influencing my blood sugar response when I took it post workout with carbs and protein but very little in terms of the pumps that were advertised. I didn't notice anything in terms of decreased bloating when compared to normal monohydrate.

Neovar has stellar reviews from just about everyone who has used it. It has a nutrient repartioning effect to it which, when taken with some carbs, could help keep bloat low and give you a pump as well.

What type of creatine is in that product? I like what I'm reading about nitrate, but so far mono is still king.

Mono is perfectly fine as is. The designer creatines confer benefits on top of saturating PCr stores, such as orotic acid (clout), chelate for less GI distress (MCC), and nitrates for endurance (creatine nitrate).

Have tried KreAlkalyn and mono. KreAlyalyn is crap IMO and mono can be too depending on how pure it is and the quality. I would say go with a nice, high quality and "pure" form of mono and you will be very happy with it.

as far as NeoVar goes, I bloat off of it as well, but i still notice a slight pump. also, when i take it post workout, i make sure i eat sugar. something like a protein shake or tea. i follow that with a meal of carbs like pasta + chicken...etc

My preferences are NeoVar by AppNut, Creatine Nitrate by APS, Creapure by PP

the only creatine i have not responded to is Green Mag and sometimes i dont even respond to mono. I cycle it. when i get on mono and dont notice anything for 3 weeks, i switch to CN.

something that has worked for me is this: Workout Days - CN pre workout, NeoVar post workout
Nonworkout Days - Creapure