Tuesday morning at around 11, a cyclist collided with a motor vehicle that was heading north on Guerrero at the intersection with 24th.

Peter Bagain, the owner of Jump Start Coffee and Groceries, across from where the collision occurred, “heard what sounded like two cars hitting each other.” He ran outside and saw the aftermath. “I saw the guy on the ground, blood gushing.”

He didn’t see the crash, so he can only speculate about who was at fault.

How did they know the cyclist ran the red light? A couple of paragraphs down, we see the word “allegedly” and the phrase “according to police.”

But with that headline, the damage was already done.

Our friends at Hoodline wrote in the body of their story that a “…bicyclist ran a red light [emphasis added] at the intersection of Guerrero and 24th St. and struck a car.” That bit of information wasn’t even attributed to anyone.

The intersection, looking north, during a rare break in speeding traffic. Photo: Streetsblog/Rudick

For the record, here are more details about the crash: Luis Sanjose, the manager of Fiore Cafe on the southeast corner of the intersection, showed Streetsblog some security video that captured part of the intersection at the time of the crash. He said that nobody else has seen his video. Although the impact occurred outside of the frame and the bicycle was not visible, the traffic light is visible, along with cars stopping and people looking (towards the sound of an impact presumably), standing, and running towards something across the intersection. And yes, going by that video evidence, and some consistent hearsay about witness statements, it seems likely that the cyclist ran a solid red light.

Either way, Sanjose said he’s seen six crashes since 2010 and he wants something done to make the intersection safer.

“People get off San Jose and continue driving like this is a freeway,” said Bagain, pointing at the cars on Guerrero street, all clearly going faster than the 25 mph posted speed limit. “If I were a cop I could stand here all day writing ticket after ticket.”

He also said he can’t get the sight of all that blood, plus the sound of the cyclist’s labored breathing, out of his head. “Nobody deserves that, even if it was his fault.”

As always, you autosexuals miss the main point: the car run down by said car travelling at 45 mph on a narrow city street is certainly not experiencing safety. How dare he or she get in the way of Motor Man!

But then, everything revolves around catering 100% to those ensconced in 4,000 pounds of steel and plastic.

basenjibrian

It’s called “common sense”. Autosexuals, addicted to the power and isolation of their vehicles, don’t typically worry about such a concept.

basenjibrian

Denial of the law of physics. Give me convenience and give them death. (h/t Dead Kennedys)

Harris

It’s OK, we get it, you want laxer laws for people like you and stricter laws for others.

Guess what? We all think that.

Harris

Ah yes, the old “us and them” class warfare, co-opted for anti-car zealots.

Harris

You miss the point. 45 mph can be perfectly safe in a city while, in another part of the city, 25 may be too fast. Over-generalizations are rarely helpful

Harris

Glad you admit that they skew the news to suit their bias.

Harris

Citation required.

ROZA

Er… I am both ride a bike and drive a car. But because I understand both physics and can read I know that in 2015 5,376 pedestrians and 818 cyclist were killed by drivers. https://www.nhtsa.gov/road-safety/pedestrian-safety How many were killed by cyclists in 2015?

ROZA

That is a logical fallacy. I was pointing out that driving a car is inherently dangerous due to the size and speed. Bicycles are not capable of the same harm as cars. Just a tidbit, cyclist are in most states are held to the same standards, not in every state however and it works just fine (Idaho). Everyday I see drivers running red lights, speeding, not stopping at stop signs, and with 5376 pedestrians and 818 cyclists killed by cars in 2015, I don’t think drivers can claim moral superiority.

Harris

I never said drivers have moral superiority. Drivers should obey all the rules too, as should cyclists. We don’t give cyclists a pass when they break the la just because someone, somewhere is doing something worse.

Your own words. You claimed I had multiple accounts. You claimed you did not. You claimed I had made mistakes.
No evidence was presented for any of these claims, indicating that you were lying, bluffing or both.

Stuart

I find that people with guilty consciences often read general statements as accusations against them. Have you noticed that too?

How could making baseless claims hurt anyone? My entire point was that you tried your luck and when I called you out on it, you ducked and demurred.
See, when you take a shot, at least have something to back it up beyond blind prejudice and ill feeling. Because otherwise you will be humiliated at every turn.

Harris

“Roy” backpeddled like a bat out of hell as soon as I called him on his BS. It’s almost no fun with him because he always obfuscates when he is losing a debate, conceding an easy victory.
At least you put up a fight

OOOOOOOH.
That is SOO ADORBS! Wittle HarryWichill got his cutey-wootie feewings hurted. Now he’s all pouty-wouty!
We just wanna sqweeze those wittle cheeks!

Harris

So given that obfuscation didn’t get you off the hook for your lies, you now regress to a mental age of seven in a last desperate attempt to save face.
Next time, just think before you spew unsubstantiated verbiage – it will do your credibility the word of good. If it’s not totally shot already of course.

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