Eh, that's not really a fair comparison. If the druid and I 2 healed the fight instead of 4 healing it, chances are I am also right up their with his numbers. His own numbers wouldn't budge much because his hots are still ticking for what they do, where as my PoH wouldn't be overhealing nearly as much, and as such, my numbers would rise significantly. My 4 healer situation is still much more common practice (hell usually 5 healer) today for many guilds. Yes, it can be two healed rather easily, been there... done that. The log I posted was more relevant to the debate because it deals witha situation in which you have closer the normal number of healers, showing holy's effect decreased due to the # of healers, and shwoing the druid as not being effected at all, number wise.

Remember, I am on the side that thinks our class is extremely OP if played correctly, and I am not bitching about a lack of regen. Our class simply takes a hell of a lot more skill now, and people just can't handle it. If you want easy, go play a druid. If you want a fun challenge? Play a Holy Priest.

Originally Posted by Kacie

Not in my guild, holy priests was always top with 10k + hps before patch, now druids are doing 22k hps.

Some say logs don't show holy cons i'm not too sure but i wasen't getting much back but didn't run oom because it was ulduar.

You're druids were the worst druids then that I have heard of playing thsi game. Any druid doing under 14k hps on that fight is a complete scrub unless you stacked 8 healers. Seriously, there is no way in hell, from the day the boss came out, that a Holy {riest should ever beat a Druid on BQL, or H BQL.

Eh, that's not really a fair comparison. If the druid and I 2 healed the fight instead of 4 healing it, chances are I am also right up their with his numbers. His own numbers wouldn't budge much because his hots are still ticking for what they do, where as my PoH wouldn't be overhealing nearly as much, and as such, my numbers would rise significantly.

The druid in your log did a massive 33% more raw healing than you did.

You also seem to think that druid hots somehow get less penalized by overhealing than other heals. This is just false. The only reason this might seem true is when the druid doesn't alter his rotation much in high overheal environments, while healers with mainly direct heals relax on their spamming.

Therefore, holy concentration is only worth 11,664 mana during a 4 minute fight (typical length of a BQL fight). It doesn't come close to compensating for the benefit druids get from Revitalize or Discs get from Rapture. In some of the mana figures harky is quoting, I believe he is referring to total spirit regen, which isn't a valid comparison because every healer has spirit based regeneration now. Everyone has the option to wear full spirit gear and while priests probably get more from their 50% spirit based regen than anyone else, that's because the druids/shamans/disc priests are swimming in so much mana from their OP mana regen mechanics that they are reforging off every bit of spirit they can.