tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8340684.post1748630737100606818..comments2018-05-09T11:43:09.866-04:00Comments on delagar: Not Really Humandelagarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18197857250240640822noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8340684.post-68870534899699292152017-06-10T02:54:52.334-04:002017-06-10T02:54:52.334-04:00CC: I like this take on humanity and our human nat...<br />CC: I like this take on humanity and our human nature!<br /><br />One thing (this really has nothing to do with your point, but reading your comment made me think of it) -- one thing that annoys me so much about Dreher and his ugly perception of LGBT people is how he defines them by their sexual acts -- the way he claims they are only gay, or bisexual, or trans *because* of their desire to have a specific kind of sex.<br /><br />That an LGBT person could want to have a loving relationship and a life with another person -- a life in which sex is only one part -- that just can&#39;t be possible, in Dreher&#39;s mind. No, it&#39;s all about (as he frequently phrases it) the &quot;holy orgasm.&quot;<br /><br />Does he think this about heterosexual relationships / marriages as well? That straight people only marry so they can have sex? That&#39;s what marriage / love is to him? A way to have &quot;sinless&quot; sex?<br /><br />He&#39;s a disturbing man.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />delagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18197857250240640822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8340684.post-27783401043901214792017-06-09T21:45:35.207-04:002017-06-09T21:45:35.207-04:00I was trying to figure out why his phrasing rings ...I was trying to figure out why his phrasing rings especially oddly to me, and then I realized: the place I most often hear the phrase &quot;fully human&quot; (in a religious context, or for that matter in any context, since it doesn&#39;t come up a lot otherwise, except maybe occasionally in discussions of disability and/or end of life decisions, and I suppose maybe abortion) is in reference to Jesus, who, at least in Trinitarian Christian theology, is both &quot;fully human&quot; and &quot;fully divine.&quot; Of course, Jesus is also traditionally considered to have been sinless, unlike any other human, but tempted to sin, like other humans. So maybe it&#39;s just my Calvinist upbringing showing, but for me being human=being fallen=being sinful/tempted to sin. It&#39;s not a huge stretch from there to say that we are most fully, or at least most typically, human when we&#39;re sinning, which is about the opposite place from where Dreher ended up. <br /><br />[Of course, none of the above gets into the question of whether it&#39;s sinful to act, in a responsible manner, on the sexual urges that are also part of our human nature, and that take varying forms in varying individuals, other than in the context of monogamous heterosexual marriage. I think not, but even if I did, I don&#39;t think I&#39;d arrive at the argument that people engaged in sexual sin are somehow &quot;not fully human&quot;/not expressing their full humanity. Lust, like greed, sloth, envy, etc., etc. strikes me as very human.]Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8340684.post-73843102346739560062017-06-09T16:10:00.380-04:002017-06-09T16:10:00.380-04:00He&#39;s grown more and more toxic over the past f...<br />He&#39;s grown more and more toxic over the past few years. <br /><br />I&#39;ve stopped reading him frequently -- I used to check in every day or two. Now I can barely stand to read him once or twice a month. Every time I do have a look, he&#39;s saying something worse than the last time I read him.<br /><br />His comment section is even worse, since he bans everyone who disagrees with his disgusting worldview. So now he&#39;s left with White Nationalists, Ultra-conservative Christians who hate LGBT people as much as he does, and the few liberals who haven&#39;t managed to trigger his ban yet.<br /><br />delagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18197857250240640822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8340684.post-10131171540729989102017-06-09T15:40:05.774-04:002017-06-09T15:40:05.774-04:00Thank you for confirming my decision of May 21, 20...Thank you for confirming my decision of May 21, 2015 to never read Rod Dreher&#39;s blog again. Every once in a while I do find myself curious, then someone comes along and reminds me how utterly toxic he is.John Dumashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08908646219266836986noreply@blogger.com