They are targeting gaming because Sony fought them back by taking a hacker to court. They are trying to put fear in the gaming industry. They KO Sony but Sony stand up again. They tried to take them down again but couldnt. So they went to other members of the industry.

Think about a Mafia kind of situation. They bully you over and over again. One day, you had enough and stand up to them. Making them realize you are not going to fear them anymore. So, the Mafia goes after your relatives. Your friends, your family, etc. See what I mean. Its a SCARE tactic.

Yeah I agree, but I'm pretty but this move will certainly backfire on them for making it this huge. If they do it too much it's certain the authorities will find a way to track and catch them. I do hope that they do get caught very soon and learn that what they're doing is pointless and damaging to others.

One of the reasons why I despise the idea of relying on online services to deliver gaming, aka cloud computing gaming. If there are no pirates, then there will be hackers, to ruin it for everyone. It'll only get worse as nothing is secure enough.

I'll have to seek a new hobby if these future predictions of gamers being doomed to cloud computing are to be believed.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Computer hackers who promise "high-quality entertainment at your expense" claimed to have taken down the Central Intelligence Agency website in support of WikiLeaks, but on Thursday the website appeared to be operating normally. "WikiLeaks supporters, LulzSec, take down CIA ... who has task force into WikiLeaks," the hackers, who call themselves "Lulz Security," said on Twitter late Wednesday. WikiLeaks, Julian Assange's group that facilitates the release of secret information, reposted the message on its own Twitter feed.

All I've seen is moaning and crying, which is exactly what the hackers want. ... and it seems that some hackers groups ARE denouncing this kind of stuff and are even trying to fight the hackers that are simply targeting companies for no reason.

Defending one group of hackers isn't the same as defending them all. They have different ideals and different goals.

You're using Lulzsec as your backup? Look, Lulzsec is the one causing all this B.S. It doesn't matter what kind of justifications or claims they try to make, the FACT remains that they are PUBLICLY announcing that they hack into stuff and cause trouble. Then when you have another hacking group that caused, thus far, the WORST trouble (Anon) fighting another hacking group, it's merely to distance themselves from what one group is doing so as not to be blamed. Neither group is actually doing anything to STOP the other.

Here are the facts. Anon and Lulzsec are causing all the B.S. And no one is doing anything to stop either of them. You can't say that two criminals fighting each other is an indication that someone is doing something about the problem.

How has Anon caused the most trouble? O.o LulzSec is the bigger fish. They've hit numerous sites, released a boat-load of personal information as well as attack the CIA.

Justification does matter. You can't judge an action without context. LulzSec is doing this to show everyone how feeble the net is. They didn't invent these security loop-holes, they were there all along. Anonymous on the other hands believes in attacking organizations for a cause (such as Scientology, Iran, etc.)

... and I don't get how you can say that neither group is doing anything to stop the other. 4chan and Anon don't like LulzSec, and they have been trying to help the feds somehow catch LulzSec. LulzSec meanwhile has been trolling the 4chan boards for quite a bit.

At the very least, they're denouncing them and trying to fight them (which is exactly what you wanted to see).

Anon is the one that started all this crap and is responsible for shutting down PSN, Lulzsec hasn't been responsible for anything on such a massive scale.

And now you're trying to state that Lulzsec's "the ends justifies the means" defense is somehow good and righteous? The point of the matter is that no one was hacking anything until both these groups came along and started their sh*t.

And as for your final point, it's like comparing 2 street gangs trying to fight for control of the streets. Both commit vicious crimes, but will blame the other when the cops come knocking on the door. Both are criminals and are responsible for the hacker reputation of being such. I'm talking about supposed "good" hackers who should be fighting these groups and denouncing them. I'm talking about those people who don't want to be grouped together with the criminals. I don't care if one criminal blames a crime on another criminal then tries to help the cops in exchange for leniency and/or immunity. This isn't tv or movies, this is life.

I believe the first small PSN downtime was Anon (DDoS attack), the longer downtime was LulzSec (the one during which Sony took down PSN themselves and actual personal information was stolen). I didn't follow that story as closely. I wouldn't say that the PSN attack was bigger than what LulzSec did with the pron database or the attack on the CIA. (or hell, even the meddling with the FBI)

Shit was always getting hacked. It just wasn't publicized as much. Though, the frequency of hacks related to gaming has increased since the PSN downtime, and that's mostly because these two groups have been public. They could've easily kept things to themselves, and no-one would have known that anything was hacked or stolen.

The cops haven't knocked at anyone's door. The current disagreement is due to their beliefs, not an attempt to save face. Anonymous doesn't like that LulzSec targets sites for no real reason. Anon only attacked Sony originally because they felt that Sony was infringing upon their customers rights (Anon failed at understanding law there, but their intention wasn't entirely in the wrong place). I think they apologized, even though they aren't any defined group.

As for 'good hackers' fighting them, most of those guys work for companies. A 'good' street gang is essentially the cops, and the good hackers are essentially the guys that are supposed to be handling security of these companies in the first place. Just because they don't make announcements about wanting to bring the bad hackers down doesn't mean they aren't doing anything about it.

... and by some people's definition, Anonymous are good hackers. They're fighting LulzSec because they don't want to be grouped with them. If you wanna talk them down because of the small PSN attack, then remember that even a cop can make mistakes.