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Oh, so he wants to contain the Holy Right then? I thought he wanted Imagine Breaker to somehow overcome the limitations he had a human and unleash the Holy Right's full potential...

Nah, people thought he wanted the Imagine Breaker to somehow completely remove his Original Sin, but as it turns out it's just to give his Holy Right a physical manifestation and doesn't care about Imagine Breaker at all.

With his Holy Right, he doesn't need Imagine Breaker.

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That's rather easy to explain though: Both the HR and IB are divine; Curtana is not. Or am I mistaken again?

Curtana=Original wields the same power as Michael in the United Kingdom. The Holy Right wields the same power of Michael anywhere in the world.

It's just that Holy Right is far more powerful than Curtana, and somehow Touma's right hand, not his Imagine Breaker power, is the most ideal container to host that power.

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Nah, people thought he wanted the Imagine Breaker to somehow completely remove his Original Sin, but as it turns out it's just to give his Holy Right a physical manifestation and doesn't care about Imagine Breaker at all.

But wouldn't Imagine Breaker negate the Holy Right? Or is it somehow immune to IB's effects?

The Holy Right really is amazing... it makes Crowley's victory over Fiamma even more incredible.

Why did he need the remote for Johann's Pen Mode?

to access the knowledge of Index. He needs the knowledge of index to control holy right. Because normally Holy right is too strong to be control and it can only manifest for a very short time. Thus with the knowledge of index. Fiamma can control it and after the physical form lapse, he can still use it in ethereal form. Make it semi-permanent in activation.

I would buy a ticket to Japan and go kneel in front of Kamachi. Aside a A-tan/Hayate nothing can make me more crazy than a Toumikoto.
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Old times it reminds me of the crazy war between Atan fans and Hina-chan fans.

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Originally Posted by Kuroi Hadou

I just thought of something: What would happen if Fiamma set Aiwass as the Holy Right's enemy? In other words, is there a limit to how powerful the Holy Right can make itself?

The problem on holy right is it has too little info's given. It's been argued that if Fiamma use Aleister as a target for holy right then the fight wouldn't result into such things. But it didn't happen. Maybe because it's unstable or maybe because he can't target Aleister. Who knows.

The Holy Right really is amazing... it makes Crowley's victory over Fiamma even more incredible.

Sure is....all that is needed now is for Fianma to gain a new arm which is a suitable container using the Horus format and he's good to go join the struggle against Crowley and Academy...

He lost vs Crowley mainly because first and foremost Aleister is far higher than him at present and secondly, his Holy Right was unstable after getting his arm sliced off and thus losing the flesh container.

The problem on holy right is it has too little info's given. It's been argued that if Fiamma use Aleister as a target for holy right then the fight wouldn't result into such things. But it didn't happen. Maybe because it's unstable or maybe because he can't target Aleister. Who knows.

Its safe to assume that he was losing his power since its said that his arm can't be at full power without all the help he had.

plus the initial container was chopped off. He lost everything to make it perfect and return to unstable form and aside from that it even loose it's physical form turning into mere ethereal/spirit form

plus the initial container was chopped off. He lost everything to make it perfect and return to unstable form and aside from that it even loose it's physical form turning into mere ethereal/spirit form