These words are wrong worded and quoted. We will never surrender to terror” after the PKK killed at least 10 soldiers on Sunday. Following a car bomb that killed 10 civilians in Gaziantep two weeks ago, Hurriyet, Can you please correct your misleading words. PKK never kills civilians. LIke time were white racists were blanting bombs and blaming it on Nelson Mandela. JUST LIKE WHEN USA ARMY WAS DOING DIRTY TACTICS ON VIETNAM its called dirty politics. That's what Turkish government and media branding PKK. THERE IS A LAW IN TURKEY IF THERE IS 100 SOLDIERS DIE IN A MONTH THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO STEP DOWN. BUT TOO AVOID THIS THEY TRYING TO DIVERT THE ATTENTION BY MAKING OUT PKK PLANTED THESE BOMBS TO GET GOVERNMENT TO GET SUPPORT! THIS SAME TACTICS WERE DONE BY USA AND WHITE RACISTS IN SOUTH AFRICA !

8:24 pm September 3, 2012

andrei rublev wrote:

In my opinion, AKP regarded Kurdish Problem as a result of military abuse and opressive Kemalist rule in Kurdish areas, and they thought this problem could be solved by giving some rights to Kurds and promoting Islam as uniting element between Kurds and Turks. But BDP's (pro-Kurdish party) great success in last elections made AKP aggressive toward Kurdish demands, and after the election more than 2000 thousand BDP supporters arrested. The silence of the EU is incomprehensible. EU and USA should take more responsibility and apply pressure on Turkish government for the peaceful solution, because Turkey cannot produce a solution on itself, and there are many forces that elements block solution. Turks great hatred through Kurds is the main obstruct to solution. a two state solution is the best for Turks and Kurds.

10:17 pm September 3, 2012

General Sherman wrote:

Cahit Cetinkaya, who are you kidding? The PKK always murders civilians. In fact, it has murdered more than 40,000 civilians.

How can you even deny it? The perpetrator has already been caught and arrested and so has all of his accomplices. It turned out to be, not surprisingly, a KURD who who is not only a member of the PKK, but one of the PKK leader's bodyguards, and he is a former member of the BDP/DTP.

LOL, "white racists"? "Nelson Mandela"? If anybody resembles the White Anglo-Dutch apartheid state, it's the PKK terrorists. The kurds are a minority in Turkiye. The South African opposition never engaged in terrorism like the PKK. Also, the South African opposition was the natural reaction to a country where more than 90 % of the population was black Africans but was being ruled by Anglo-Dutch. Just like the White Anglo-Dutch presence in South Africa was a foreign presence, the PKK is a foreign presence in Turkiye.

"Vietnam"? If anything, the PKK is like the US military in Vietnam. Just like the US military was a foreign presence in Vietnam, the PKK is a foreign presence in Turkiye.

LOL, a "law where if 100 soldiers die in a month, the government has to step down"? What are you babbling about? First off, our soldiers are MARTYRED, not dead. Second, no where near 100 of our soldiers have been martyred this month. Third, hundreds of PKK terrorists have been sent to hell this month.

Again, the PKK are the ones who carried out the Gaziantep bombing and everybody knows it.

The "kurdish" ethnic group and kurdish nationalism are the inventions of 19th century european imperialists. Read christopher dickey's "Don't Redraw Middle East Map". The "kurds" in Turkiye, iraq, syria, and iran are all genetically dissimiliar and liguistically incoherent. The reality is that they are iranic offshouts from india who have always lived on other people's land. Even then the kurds in northen iraq have haplogroup J in frequencies of higher than 40 % making them more Arab than some Arabs. The kurds in Turkiye didn't even inhabit Eastern Anatolia until the Ottoman sultan defeated the Persian shah and gave a large amount of land to a kurdish servant of his. Historically, the "kurds" defined their allegiance by tribe, faith, or the nation to which they were stealing the culture from. Even kurdish nationalists admit that one-hundred years ago "kurdish" was mostly Turkish, Persian, and Arabic.

10:44 pm September 3, 2012

General Sherman wrote:

andrei rublev, the AKP was wrong to think that. There was never any "military abuse" or "oppressive Kemalist rule" and there is no such thing as "kurdish areas", it is all Turkish land so get it in your head. The PKK is the invention of foreign imperialist Russian/European imperialists.

"BDP's great succes in last elections"? Are you kidding? The BDP performed abysmally in the last elections. They only managed to get the votes of less than 25 % of the kurds and less than 5 % of the votes of everybody in Turkiye. What makes this even more embarassing for the PKK is that they had to threaten people to vote for the BDP and Turkiye is a country where people are required to vote so it just shows how embarassing this is for the BDP/PKK.

Those "2000 bdp supporters" are terrorists.

LOL, the "silence of the EU is incomprehensible"? Are you serious? What is the EU going to say without looking like a bunch of hypocrites? The UK and several other EU members are part of the occupyng powers currently occupying Iraq and Afghanistan. Just recently, England, Spain, Portugal, France, etc. colonized the Americas with a brutality that was seen nowhere else in the world commiting genocide against and murdering tens of millions of Native Americans in North and South America. Even more recently France occupied Algeria and committed genocide against the Algerian people murdering over 1 million Algerians. They have allowed a country like Serbia to gain candidacy to join the EU. They have allowed a country like Greece which aided Serbia in committing genocide against Muslim Bosniaks and Kosovar Albanians to join the EU. The support Israel in its occupation of Palestinian land.

Most of the Turkish people don't even want to join the EU anymore after learning that it's nothing but an scheme to give the money of hard-working people to useless bankrupt broken useless countries like greece that don't produce anything.

"EU and USA should take more responsibility and apply pressure"? LOL, what? What could the EU and US possibly do to "pressure" us? Have you forgotten we're not a welfare state like Greece which depends on other countries for money?

Again, there is nothing the US and EU could say to us anyway without looking like a bunch of hypocrites. The US and several EU members continue their genocidal occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq. They are the most genocidal nations in the history of the world and are responsible for the genocide of the American natives in North & South America where they murdered more than tens of millions of Native Americans after robbing them of their land. This was committed by the US and several EU members (England, Spain, France, Portugal, etc.). France, an EU member, committed genocide against more than 1 million Algerians in its genocidal occupation of Algeria. England committed genocide in its colonization of Australia where millions of Aborignals were murdered. That's not to mention the British/Dutch genocide of South Africa, the Dutch/Spanish/American genocide of Southeast Asia, the US genocide of Vietnam, and the white christian german genocide of the Holocaust, etc. Furthermore, the US and the EU nations NEVER say a word about the infinitely worse genocides committed against Muslim ethnic groups by countries like Russia and Serbia including the Circassian genocide and other genocides against Caucasian Muslim peoples, the genocide of the Crimean Tatars, and the genocide of Bosniaks at Srebenica. Again, the US and several EU states created the illegitimate entity known as israel which continues to occupy Palestinian land.

And again, most Turks don't care about the EU anymore because, as I have said before, it is a useless tool to provide welfare for useless bankrupt countries like Greece.

Turkiye can produce a "solution" itself and it did so between 1999/2000 and 2003/2006 when the PKK was effectively dead. The PKK was only resurrected after the US gave it an safe haven in Northern Iraq.

The only forces that block a solution are the "forces" that support the PKK which include many foreign imperialist nations including the US, Russia, and the nations in the EU.

The Turks don't have "great hatred" for kurds. We look down on them or have contempt but we don't hate them. If anything, the problem is the irrational hate that kurds have for Turks. No a two-state solution is not "best" for Turks and kurds.

If anything a "two-state" solution is necessary for Greece and Cyprus which attempts genocide agaisnt it's Turkish minority. If anything, a several state solution is necessary for Russia which attempts genocide against more than 60+ Turkish/Caucasian/Muslim minorities. If anything, a two state solution is necessary for the US which occupies historially Native American land. If anything, a two state solution is necessary for israel which occupies historically Palestinian land.

10:57 pm September 3, 2012

ataturk wrote:

mr. general. how about if we send the arrested kurds to do the jail sentence in iraq. if they pardon them, i think it would be ok.

12:25 am September 4, 2012

Curious wrote:

Somebody please explain to me why the Turks have all the rights to self-determination, but the Kurds do not.

1:45 am September 4, 2012

TheWiseOne wrote:

General Sherman, stop with your racist and wild rumblings. Who are you trying to convince?

The PKK and the Kurdish issue is a human rights issue. You're occupying their land. Kurdistan has existed far longer than your Turkyie. The truth is Mr. Sherman, Kurds are an indigenous people. You, Turks, are originally mongols who have came to your current terrorist and occupied it.

Your country kicked the Greeks out, killed all the Armenians and deceived the Kurds by playing the Muslim card. The Kurds never agreed to be part of your country, their land was divided between four countries.

The PKK is just the latest manifestation of the Kurdish people trying to free their homeland and gain basic god-given rights. You, being an MHP supporter, want to portray the PKK as an evil organization, terrorists and other such names to blind people from the truth. The truth is Southeastern Turkey is not yours, the truth is you're not fighting a terrorist organization but rather fighting an ethnic war......a war that you've already lost a long time ago.

The PKK is the 15th Kurdish rebellion against your fascist state. The PKK has support among Turkey's Kurds and it will never be eliminated. You will lose at the end. You've already lost your southeastern part of the country.

The BDP does represent Turkey's Kurds. Even with your little 10 % threshold and AKP giving away free refrigerators, thousands of members being behind bars the BDP still won hundreds of municipalities and governorship across the Southeast.

You will see one day Mr. Sherman that your Country already lost this war........the partition of your country is inevitable.

6:54 am September 4, 2012

ARÎMAN wrote:

We the Kurds suffer under Facist Turks, Why can't we have rights in our own country? Speak our own Language, have our own culture. Instead we are forced

6:55 am September 4, 2012

ARÎMAN wrote:

We the Kurds suffer under Facist Turks, Why can't we have rights in our own country? Speak our own Language, have our own culture. Instead we are forced to learn Turkish, and Do everything their way. It's time we speak up aganist the Turk's crimes.

7:10 am September 4, 2012

Moon Shadow 40 wrote:

Listen TheWiseOne:

You are the one who probably should quit the bs with your half-truth, half-wishful thinking analysis. PKK is NOT a human rights issue. Yes, Turkey has not handled the Kurdish issue in the last 60 years in the best possible way, but PKK is a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION ACKNOWLEDGED BY the US as well as EUROPE. Setting PKK equal to the Kurdish issue reveals how much you know about it all: you don't. It is NOT true that the Kurdish did not want to be a part of Turkey, and it is not true that Turkey killed all the Armenians. (As a matter of fact, the loss of population during the first world war b/w Armenians and Turkish is about the same.)

I am not sure your "human rights" agenda covers the atrocities done by Lenin and Stalin, your brothers from a similar religious background... Yes, we kicked Greeks out, but I am sure Greece kicked a lot of Turkish origin people out from Greece and in fact the orthodox minority in Turkey is much more comfortable than the muslim minority in Greece. Would you like to bet on otherwise?

Kurdish people trying to free their homeland? What? Are you nuts? I will guarantee you that most Kurdish will simply and easily will disagree with separation from Turkey, let alone the impossibility or near impossibility of the task. Turkey is a regional power, and in fact it is very hard to clearly separate the people according to their ethnicity there, as races and people have mixed for centuries. You will see Kurdish, Turkish, Asyrians, Arabs, Alevis, Zazas, Farsis, Gypsies etc (in no particular order) in any given area there..

Oh, by the way, who am I? I am a citizen of Turkey living in US for more than decade... and I have been born in Van, predominantly a city with Kurdish majority. So, my analysis is far more close to truth than any of the hatred and the spew you will spit out against my homeland.

7:23 am September 4, 2012

Moon Shadow 40 wrote:

We the Kurds can speak our own language and have our own culture in Turkey. Trying to portray the current administration / government / conjecture in Turkey as fascist is just flat out idiotic... If you say it WAS fascist, I will agree... but that is not true anymore. In fact, the current government has been trying for multiple reforms to speed up the democratization of different layers of administration in the region.

Something that will help understand the PKK issue is official briefings and press releases from PKK (a terrorist organization according to USA) which announce their religion as Zerdüşt. Now anyone familiar with the Kurds will know that they are MUSLIM with an overwhelming majority... So PKK trying to adopt a divergent approach clearly reveals artificial and repressing differences that in fact do not exist between us, the Kurdish and the Turks.

1:46 pm September 4, 2012

Nixos wrote:

This appears to be a well written, well researched but a one-sided article. I have not seen any comment about the wrong-doings committed by the PKK. Are they free to do what they want to do, are they not subject to any rule? How does the author propose that the PKK murderers are punished? The full conditions on the ground are only known to the Turks. Turks must have some flexibility to design their actions in accordance with the prevailing conditions on the ground. All guilty parties must be punished not just the ones on Turkish side.

3:52 pm September 4, 2012

TheWiseOne wrote:

When you're oppressed, your identity denied, can't speak your language (only lately Turkey allowed Kurdish to be spoken publicly) your land confiscated, women raped and your men are put in prison and fed their own feces then you, as a human being, will resort to any retaliation possible....

Turkey's constitution states everybody living in Turkey is a Turk. This couldn't be further from the truth. Turkey is a multi racial and multi-ethinic country.

You say most Kurds wouldn't seperate from Turkey? what are you smoking buddy.......give the Kurds a refrandom and see if they want to be part of Turkey. 99.9% of Kurds living in Turkey would opt for Independence.

Get it through your thick skull.......WE ARE NOT TURKISH.......WE WILL NEVER BE TURKISH. You either give us 100 % of our rights or let us go our own way.

Let me ask you something....do you truely believe there is no difference between Al-Qaeda and PKK? PKK doesn't have an agenda against Western Civilization, it doesn't target American's or foreigners, what it does is fighting Turkey's armed forces, security apparatus (like JITEM).

And if PKK is a terrorist group being in the same tier as Al Qaeda how come U.S. didn't do anything about it when they were in Iraq? because the U.S. knows very well this is a struggle for freedom....They don't want to be bogged down in a civil war. Of Course United States sees Turkey as a partner and an ally and will stand by her but U.S. will never send it's troops to fight the PKK.

Also...PKK number only a couple thousands in Qandil.....why not send your big bad army to crush a couple thousand fighers? so what if you lose 10-15 thousand soldiers....wouldn't that be a small price to pay to destroy the PKK once and for all? why won't Turkey do that? because even Turkey knows PKK's support base is the Kurdish people......as long as Turkey oppresses the Kurds the PKK will always have new recruits.

Just like every occupation in history......your days in Kurdistan is numbered, although u have a far more powerful military you will lose. You're fighting a war that has no end.....the only way to end it is two choices:

1. New consititution, Kurds are 100% free, they can speak Kurdish everywhere and anywhere (including political rally's and in parliament), release all political prisoners, decentralization of power....give the regions more say in their daily affairs, giving amnesty to PKK members and re-integrate them with society. Lift the ban on PKK so it can put down it's weapons and resume political course. Compensate all that was/is affected during this war.....rename the towns and cities to Kurdish, re-built those 4000 villages Turkey burned to the ground........bring every JITEM member in front of court so the people will have justice.

2. Kurdistan

balls in your court..........you decide. This is the ONLY solution you will ever have. And the more Turkey waits the worse it will get......time is running out. Imagine.......20 years ago no one in the world knew who Kurds or the PKK were.......now every battle is front page news......the conflict is getting out of Turkey's hands and is becoming a international conflict.....information travels fast...you can't put down this fire. Either you reform, set with PKK and set a road map or eventually Turkey will be divided.

Remember....PKK is only 1-5 thousand fighters......Turkey hosts 20 million Kurds....when these people have had enough of your chauvanistic attitude there isn't a military force on earth that could stop 20 million.

You saw Egypt, Tunis, Libya......once Kurds have had enough and rise up.....there won't be a damn thing the TSK can do about it. It will be game over for you.

4:04 pm September 4, 2012

TheWiseOne wrote:

Nixos,

The PKK was formed in Diyarbakir's famous prison. Kurds were rounded up and they were tortured, they were fed their own feces, killed, raped and faced every humiliation a human being could face. It was in that prison a group of Kurds led by Ocalan decided to arm themselves.

When the fight broke out......Turkey used every possible means to destroy the PKK. Including burning down 4, 000 villages, raping woman in front of their husbands,......killing infants in front of their parents, mass executions, language ban.......they called the Kurds "Mountain Turks".

Turkey broke every rule in the Geneva convention, everyone that was Kurdish was a target. So far......45, 000 thousand people have died (90% of that figure is Kurds)....that's 10x more than the Israeli-Palastinian conflict.

PKK fought back by any means necessary to survive......guerella warfare......hit and run.....then started bombing campaigns in the big cities......it fought back with everything they had just like the Turkish army. They were both at eachother's throat with the civilian population caught in between.

PKK now wants autonomy......and whether Turks believe it or not the PKK stop it's bombing campaign. Most of the suicide bombings now are being carried out by TAK (Kurdish Freedom Falcons) or something like that.....TAK has no weapons and all they do is bombing campaigns and i'm fully against the TAK.....bombing and killing civilians will only ruin the revolution.

Turkey's crimes against it's Kurdish population is well-documented.....all you have to do is google it.

6:59 pm September 4, 2012

Dulcinea wrote:

The warning from HRW is a joke until they put their special agenda aside. If you want to talk about human rights in Turkey, talk about freedom of speech, among both Turks and Kurds. Talk about journalists, academics, and army commanders being held in jail with fabricated evidence. Talk about how Turkey is now equipped with American spying technology to spy on her own people. Talk about how the CIA operative Fethullah Gulen has taken over the Turkish judiciary and police. Talk about how Turkey is arming Syrian rebels to fuel civil war in Syria. I would not take HRW's comments any seriously than a special interest think tank, unless they really start talking about things.

As for the Kurdish issue, it looks like some Kurds are looking to take advantage of the instability in the region, to fight for their own country. There may ultimately be a war over Kurdish self determination. Such a war would be a mistake, and would likely cost Turkish, Kurdish, and Arab lives over nothing. Turkey will likely win that war, but even so, it will turn into a civil war, brother killing brother, years of chaos, and sadness.

Turks and Kurds are brothers and sisters. Unlike Israelis and Palestinians, they actually like each other, and they marry each other all the time. Indigenous or not, the two peoples have more in common than differences, and can certainly live together peacefully. It does not matter what happens after a civil war, everyone will lose.

More Kurds live in Istanbul than southeastern Turkey. Things don't have to be this way. There must be a way to peace, order, and prosperity. They can, and they must find a way out of this.

PKK feeds on blood, illegal weapons and drugs. PKK has taken the future of Kurdish people hostage. It would make sense if the Kurdish representatives distanced themselves from PKK, and looked for peaceful solutions.

7:33 pm September 4, 2012

TheWiseOne wrote:

Turks and Kurds could both come out as winners in this conflict. A strategic agreement between Turks and Kurds would totally change Ankara's political power. Kurdistan has plenty of energy, they need Turkey to export it. Turks and Kurds embracing each other and form an unbreakable bond would empower Turks and make it a true regional power. Right now Turkey is an important country especially with it's power to limit Iran's influence in the region.

Iraqi Kurds are far more secular than what is in Baghdand and southern Iraq.

8:52 pm September 4, 2012

Dulcinea wrote:

I don't like the Turkish-Saudi-Muslim Brotherhood plan either. Even if Iran's influence is limited in the short term, I believe that would eventually bite the US (and of course Israel) back. I wish secular Turks and Kurds had a stronger hand in this. If social democrats in Turkey were not selfish conservative nationalists, things could have been different today. I agree energy resources in the region can be turned into a huge opportunity, and an incentive for peace.

1:13 am September 6, 2012

Baran wrote:

"The beginning of wisdom", according to an ancient Chinese saying, "is to call things by their proper name." .....As long as Turkey and her NATO allies call the Kurdish national liberation movement terrorism, a just and lasting solution will remain elusive. Most Americans know how to write but not read -especially the American Declaration of Independence which legitimizes armed struggle against a cruel and oppressive government. And I can think of no government as cruel and oppressive as the Turkish government towards its Kurdish citizens. ..... Kurdish language is still banned for basic education, judicial proceedings, ordinary trade and commerce and Kurdish parents still cannot give their newborns Kurdish names that contain the letters Q, X and W........

1:22 am September 6, 2012

David wrote:

Turkish PM publicly embraces HAMAS leaders. HAMAS is listed as terrorist organization by Israel, the US and the EU and it is committed to the destruction of Israel. PKK has no interest in destroying Turkey and wants to democratize Turkey for all citizens.

5:15 am September 6, 2012

Tugra wrote:

to David
PKK wants to democratize Turkey by killing kids and womans?

to Baran
Let say you are right and Turkey oppressive state; which of you have mentioned worth to kill innocent civilians ?
are those terrorist attacks helping to solve Kurdish people problems or deepening?

8:09 am September 6, 2012

Baran wrote:

Dear Tugra, PKK does not kill any innocent person intentionally. Killing innocent people in a planned and systematic way is the work of Turkish security [Sic!] forces as part of their psychological warfare and they are protected from legal action by the Turkish government -as this report mentions. Remember the Uludere tragedy? Remember the "disappearance" of 17 thousand innocent Kurds referred as "unsolved murders"? I appreciate your patriotic feelings, but you should be more inquisitive. PKK has no reason to and has nothing to gain from killing innocent people. Successive Turkish governments response to Kurdish citizens call for democracy, for freedom and equality during the past 90 years has been intimidation and annihilation through state terrorism.

1:04 pm September 7, 2012

fishfish wrote:

Could someone please enlighten me as to why Palestinians deserve independence and Kurds don't?
(I'm all for Palestinian independence, btw)

Also - why does the not world care about Kurd casualties, numbering many more than Palestinian dead?

1:49 pm September 7, 2012

Dani wrote:

Erdogan-Davudoglu duo's Neo-Ottoman wet dream fully supported by the US administration would turn the Middle East according to the plan drawn under 'Greater Middle Eastern' by none other than Neocons!

PKK is a terrorist organization that has been used as a tool by countries in the region from time to time and also being supported variably by both Russia and the US.

8:38 pm September 7, 2012

Dulcinea wrote:

@fishfish. Palestinian territories were unlawfully occupied by Israel. Turkey's borders were lawfully determined by international treaties. If you are going to disregard every international treaty out there, as Israel usually does, then you can argue for an independent state anywhere you want.

Kurds can of course fight for their own state. There would be a war over this. Such a war would be a mistake because Turks and Kurds peacefully co-exist together. It would feel more like a civil war, brother killing brother. There are no restrictions on Turks to marry Kurds, or restrictions on Kurdish citizens of Turkey to acquire property anywhere they want. Turkey is certainly not the champion of human rights and civil liberties, but both Turks and Kurds suffer because of that.

I hope this helps clarify how the situation differs from Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

12:57 pm September 8, 2012

fishfish wrote:

@Dulcinea.
The statement that "Palestinian territories were unlawfully occupied by Israel" is false on 2 fronts:

a) The West Bank and Gaza were taken from Jordan and Egypt, respectively, following an all-out and consistent Arab attempt to annihilate Israel (see '48, '67, '73). Both Jordan and Egypt have ceded control over these areas. So they were never "Palestinian" territories.

b) The continued occupation of these territories stems mainly from Palestinian insistence on their "right" to the entire area between the river Jordan and the sea - contrary to 1947's Partition Plan (which nascent Israel agreed to, and the Arabs rejected) - and on continued armed struggle to that end. So there was never any "unlawfulness" to the occupation, only an inability to agree on terms of separation which would secure Israel's existence and exhaust Palestinian demands.

I'm less familiar with Turk-Kurd relations, but it's pretty obvious that the relevant treaty was signed by colonial powers disregarding certain interests and favoring others. cf (from Wiki):

"After the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, the Allies contrived to create several countries within its former boundaries – according to the never-ratified Treaty of Sèvres, Kurdistan, along with Armenia, were to be among them. However, the reconquest of these areas by the forces of Kemal Atatürk (and other pressing issues) caused the Allies to accept the renegotiated Treaty of Lausanne and the borders of the modern Republic of Turkey – leaving the Kurds without a self-ruled region. Other Kurdish areas were assigned to the new British and French mandated states of Iraq and Syria."

7:57 am September 9, 2012

Baran wrote:

Dulcinea, international treaties, my foot! The Sykes-Picot agreement [two French & English public servants] drew some lines on a map dividing the Kurdish nation, clans, families and their ancestral homeland, Kurdistan, while sipping some chilled champagne in Switzerland. Then, they resorted to horse-trading with Gen Mustafa Kemal and recruited him as their local agent and collaborator as well as a bulwark against Soviet expansion. The general, who later turned into a violent tyrant, locking up and/or hanging his political opponents, turned a functioning democracy to a single-party Stalinist state and had a cowed parliament give him the title Ataturk, had no qualms about betraying his Kurdish "brothers" who had fought side by side with him to establish a new republic out of the ashes of a withered empire. He had no hesitation in encouraging the RAF to bomb Kurdish civilians who wanted freedom and independence. As the “West” turned a blind eye to his excesses he started denying the very existence of the Kurds and the Kurdish language. Overnight, Kurdish language was outlawed, the words Kurds and Kurdistan were banned and removed from dictionaries and the Kurds were rebadged as “Mountain Turks”. International agreements without the consent of the people concerned are not worth the paper they are written on!

1:00 am September 15, 2012

Ali wrote:

Cubans in Miami have right to establish an independent south Florida republic then. Funny all of you.

1:42 pm October 17, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

Islam is a religion of violence, terror, and repression.

both Turks and Kurds are muslim

Things fall into context

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