In any case if we are in that 3.5 -4 game back area a trade with Rangers for Hamels and 3B Beltre would quinch my thirst....and should be relatively cheap (prospects wise)....

Someone earlier mention DeGrom ..I am not ready to part with ONE of Gore or Tatis Jr + ONE of Q. Urias or Baez and a top15 type for DeGrom....and that is probably what it would take to get him...he is a legit ACE...

Hamels older with a 19 option Belted really old 39 (but still playing great) would probably coat us something like Framil + Naylor + Nix and a controllable BP arm..maybe its Stanmen or Yates and they go to a 3rd team with the prospects ending up with the Rangers type of deal...

I think Hamels gives us a legit post season type SP... Belted could play 3B/1B and DH and get his ABs and REST that way until post season .... But his bat gives us a legit .320 hitter with pop...and a lot of versatility to keep Hosmer fresh and Villa on and off as he goes hot and cold...

In any case if we are in that 3.5 -4 game back area a trade with Rangers for Hamels and 3B Beltre would quinch my thirst....and should be relatively cheap (prospects wise)....

Someone earlier mention DeGrom ..I am not ready to part with ONE of Gore or Tatis Jr + ONE of Q. Urias or Baez and a top15 type for DeGrom....and that is probably what it would take to get him...he is a legit ACE...

Hamels older with a 19 option Belted really old 39 (but still playing great) would probably coat us something like Framil + Naylor + Nix and a controllable BP arm..maybe its Stanmen or Yates and they go to a 3rd team with the prospects ending up with the Rangers type of deal...

I think Hamels gives us a legit post season type SP... Belted could play 3B/1B and DH and get his ABs and REST that way until post season .... But his bat gives us a legit .320 hitter with pop...and a lot of versatility to keep Hosmer fresh and Villa on and off as he goes hot and cold...

The only thing that I can gather is that they don't seem to have a ton of confidence in Giles. I also saw an article that mentioned that their bullpen has been bad in high leverage situations. But yeah, ultimately I don't think they need Hand enough to meet AJ's satisfaction.

I just posted about this in another thread. IMO, Hand is worth a top 30 prospect in trade value straight up... but Teams are just not willing to trade these blue chip prospects. IMO, we should keep Hand unless we are getting a top 30 prospect... Which means... we should keep him because Tucker, Rodgers, Whitley, Soto are not going to be traded unless Hand is packaged with a top 100 prospect of our own.

If Hand is traded he must be traded for a ready now player. We have enough prospects at this very moment.

We would need a SP or a 3B that are in the majors right now.
When u have the top rated farm in baseball or close to it, the thing to do is maybe deal some of those farm players for a need right now, not add to that farm for a guy who might not make it down the road.

For once the Padres sit in a leverage position favorable to them.
Knowing AJ he will not miss if a trade is done involving hand.

I personally would NOT trade Hand. Unless the Padres are offered some can't pass up deal.

I’d only trade Hand for a 55 who can be up next year. That means Tucker/Whitley, Sheffield/Frazier or Mejia. And I’d be willing to sweeten the deal to get it done. But if those guys are off the table, pull Hand back and focus on Yates/Stammen.