2013 Sub 3:20 and Beyond, Part 2

First: 3:46:11 - San Francisco 2008 (also slowest, not counting leading the 3:50 pace group in that same race in 2011)

Best: 3:13:14 - CIM 2011

So 32 minutes 11 seconds for me. My misfortune is that I never had a totally sucky race.

Most recent: 3:29:02. Meh, but hey an AG win.

Jon - Wow, another question. Your BQ would be 3:25 yes? In a normal year beating it by 4:36 would be more than adequate, but for 2014 it's anybody's guess. My guess would be yes, but I'm not going to put money on it.

explanation: I was supposed to run Philly 2012 for my debut. I got hurt, didn't run. Didn't even go up to Philly. Shamrock in March 2013 was my debut.

A day or two after Shamrock, I check my Athlinks account, and see Philly 2012 listed, with a 5:29. Somehow some @(&#(&$ woman got ahold of my chip/bib and ran as me (I even found her finish photo).

I've written the race management, but got no response. I wish there was some way to track down who did this - I was actually kinda ticked. It wasn't the time as much as it was the fact that I REALLY hate bib-swapping, and I'm not happy to be a party to it, even involuntarily.

Weird DW. I am not so much not a fan of bib swapping as I am to race organizations that are more about the $ then the runner. Dealing with Fargo about that. I think I could have gotten through the Half but was signed up for Full and they would only let me run the Half if I paid another $75.

OMR, sorry bout the gardening accident. I was picking up turds on Sunday, not my own, and my bad back went out on me. Thank god for muscle relaxers.

DarkWave, I'm with you, I'm not a fan of people taking advantage or cheating. Banditing is the same thing. I mean, it's one thing if a child runs the last 100 feet with mom or dad, it instills personal triumph and shows the lad/lass the result of the hard work they saw mom/dad putting in. It's another thing when someone isn't willing to pay their share and is essentially stealing from the volunteers and sponsors and a teeny piece from everyone else.

Moob, 50 minutes improvement in 2 years? Impressive!

ItsTonz, a sub-3:00 marathon? :bowdown: :bowdown:

GhettoPopz, I understand it is big business and income, but like many growing sports, the true sport of it is becoming lost to the business-side of things, unfortunately.

SirDigby, that Indy 2010 had to be a helluva relief after that Chicago 2010 showing. I would'a felt like I lost my mojo entirely, lol!

Nickshawn, I love that framework you had done. Your first marathon and your Boston. Sweet. Kinda like the start of the mountain climb, and the attainment of summit.

Pluto - Chicago was a clusterfudge, it was a bit warm that day and I never had it from the start. Contemplated walking off the course at mile 8, started taking walk breaks at mile 10'ish and just went ahead and suffered the full 26.2. I signed up for Indy the next day and ran it 4 weeks later.

Dad: Apparently summoning the niggle Nazi did the trick...or maybe it was the extra foam rolling. But I'm going with niggle Nazi. (Enjoyed the Seinfeld reference, by the way.) Nice repeats!

Gpops: Not an accident...just using new muscles...or more appropriately, using old muscles differently. And I'm glad to read that you weren't picking up your own turds when your back went out on you. I'm envisioning a visit to the Dr. where you have to explain that one! And I will never have six-pack abs...I'd be lucky to get up to a two-pack.

Nick: Awesome framing job.

Hey to everyone...

6M GA run this morning to test out the calf and shake out the legs, which felt a bit like water-logged stumps at the start. Once they got loose, it was hard to keep from pushing it. 7:27 OA. Fingers crossed...the niggle is gone (is that by BB King?).

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OMR, I believe it was thrill. Saw him in concert in Orchestra Hall back in 92 or 91. Good to hear leg strain gone. Save that speed for Saturday. Speaking of which, I am debating heading up with my friends anyways and banditing the half in protest. I would just line up with my full bib at start with other 6000 runners. But I would run with my friends. Maybe even let them give me finishers if they chose to

Nick, I thought you might be jking. I am hooked on this core stuff hoping it will have an impact, of the positive sort, down the road. You my friend must love shoes more than.my teenage girls.

Darkwave - Perhaps a volunteer at the expo handed out the wrong bib by mistake, and the recipient never complained about not appearing in the results. Printing names on bibs might be a good idea.

Going around a track for several miles turns my brain to mush. I was planning on 20 x 300 in sets of four, miscounted and did an extra set. So 24 x 300. I had no idea until I copied the splits off my watch this morning. No wonder today's recovery was almost a super-10. As Homer Simpson would say: D'oh!

So we went to the gym expecting to do a mile or two and then some bike and core work. Ended up heading down to the river with no watch but kinda knee the distance (within .15 of a mile) and did 5 miles at who knows what pace on a Perfect 74° and sunny day. The not so smart side of me is debating attempting to run walk the full Saturday. Whaaaaa? Bad brain.

You are correct in being swamped at work is a good thing when working for yourself. I just tell my DW that I get paid by the hour and I'm not cheap, but that I'm worth it

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Sorry to hear about Peachtree, but totally understand. We (DW, my stepson and I) are all running P'tree this year. It should be fun.

Ran 6 with Stig late this afternoon. It was only 86 degrees when we started. The scenery made it more tolerable, and we ran on the shady side of the street as much as possible. It cooled off a lot the last 2 miles. That was the hottest run that I've done this year, but worth it due to the company.

Flying back to Tampa in the early a.m. and working for the day, then headed home on Friday.

That's all I got for now. I will try to contribute a little more often.

BRIX. Bike to Running Exchange. Everyone has been telling me to give it a try because it feels so funky going from the bike to running that your feet feel like bricks. Well. It's true. But it goes away after a while.

7.3 running at 9:20 (really)

25 cycling, then straight to

4.4 running at 8:50.

Stigby's hot. I'm tired. It takes a lot to be hot in Rockford, IL. Where FB was born 53 years ago.

ghetto - hope that leg continues to be unproblematic. I've done core two nights in a row now. I keep checking, but I still don't have a six pack. Don't listen to the bad brain.

moob - I don't think I could deal with those kind of temps. At least not for 12 miles

Omar - I think we're all ready for a pretty impressive PR from you. I like the confidence I hear from you as well. Do you have an official goal?

stig - doffing cap to walk/running 16 miles

nick - very nice framing job. as for those shoes, there very, well, blue.

JimE - d'oh!

I climbed back in the saddle this morning for five miles and change. Sun's up by 5:15 now, so it's a totally different vibe to the running. I felt fine. The quad soreness is pretty much gone, though I can feel the old thigh-mini-injury a tad. Hopefully more of the same, and considering a mid-distance run over the weekend. Not sure about the HM in June. Thanks for the advice you guys. Dad's HM specific workouts sound good, but Omar's reminded to keep thinking long-term is also on the mark. Looking forward to enjoying the running.

Gpops: So...are you going to run all three? (You'd have to finish the half in about 40 minutes in order to get started on time for the full.)

Jim: Pretty sure that if I miscounted on the track, I would have erred the other way.

runbo: Confidence??? What confidence?!?! Hahaha...I'm just happy that I'm feeling good (knock on wood). As for a goal, no, not really...other than to hopefully repeat the effort a month ago and take whatever that gives me. (I'm trying to think in terms other than a "goal time.") Glad to hear the quad is on the mend.

NickS, I've seen the pics of your wife that you've posted, and agree with her comment. You've got a great looking family. You & I both married up, and did well for a couple of Tenn boys.

Flew back up to Tampa early this morning to work for today. Am flying back to ATL tomorrow. It's been a good (but long) week thus far, highlited by a run yesterday with Mr. hotness himself (Stig). We saw a couple of instances of what not to wear, but less than a few weeks ago.

DW is in Abu Dhabi & Dubai for 18 days (with 12 undergrad students) on a study abroad trip. Our biggest challenge is connecting live via Skype with the 8 hour time differential. Worse problems to have. She couldn't have picked a better time to be gone, as I'm not around during the week lately anyway.

JimE, the 2:39:05 was my first Marathon time when I was 23. I had posted just above Moob's post. I didn't realize that I'm supposed to try to run successive marathons faster than the one before. Guess that I've been doing it all wrong.

NICK 50% off eh? If they were orange you'd have issue controlling yourself right

PJ I started doing a few morning pre Bruno and found them slow without trying, kind of confused me for a while. When do you head to Wyoming?

DEMO I was "kind of" seeing a girl who lived in NYC for a while, that's a 16 hour time difference, finding each other to Skype was very hard. I was home from work, she was already in bed, she was getting up, I was in bed........etc

GPOPS Enjoy the warm weather

Hey to all the rest of the crew.

I've just been pumping along here. Winter hasn't hit yet, but it is getting cooler (for Sydney) Almost thought about a second layer 2 days ago, almost.

Noticed that the BAA have invited all those runners who didn't cross the line at his years marathon back next year, a little over 5000 in all. It's the right decision and a quick one all things considered. Now they just have to work out how their going to fit them in.

Nick: Yeah, I can't resist a good sale, either. In fact, I've purchased a couple of shoes on sale in spite of the fact that they had orange in them!

PJ: Haha, thanks. And I hear you on running early in the morning...not for me, either. One of our cats woke me up at about 5:30 this morning because he thought it was time for breakfast. I fed him, saw it was light outside...and then I went back to bed.

EDIT: Lapped by Tonz...Thanks! And I agree...the decision about Boston was the right one, even if it means some of us first-timers wouldn't be able to get in.

Well, I listened to Coach Nick and toned it down today...4 @ 8:22. Resting tomorrow, heading to a band concert tomorrow night (as in "our nephew conducts a high school band," not as in "a punk rock band"), then the half, then family stuff the rest of the day on Saturday. Gpops, if you're around on Saturday morning and happen to see bib #5452, that's me (unless, like Darkwave, someone steals it). I'll be one in a sea of 6,000 (I know, easy to spot, right?), not to mention the other 1500+ who will be milling around waiting for the full to start.

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