"Since January, 2001 to the present, Judge Wagner has had the honor to sit on the State of Nevada's Commission on Judicial Discipline, which monitors and regulates the ethical behavior of judges at various levels throughout the state of Nevada. "

It's a toss-up, I think. My understanding of it is that while the state is overall pretty irreligious, there are a number of super religious zealots living there (Mormons are a pretty common sight in and around Las Vegas), and I don't doubt they've snaked and slimed their way into positions of power.

Make no mistake, Burning Man is all about the dead presidents and everybody wants some.

/Same as any venture that grows huge and hugely profitable. Boss Hogg or the mob or the Indians or the preachers are going to show up and demand their piece of the pie.//And this happened to Burning Man -- it's a delicious pastry filled with sweet irony.

LoneVVolf:"Specifically, the proposal would have imposed hundreds of thousands of dollars of new fees on BRC, subjected Burning Man to local law enforcement inconsistent with the terms of the BLM permit, and otherwise make the conduct of the Burning Man event contingent upon and subject to county and state laws and polices that could conflict, and in fact did conflict, with the terms of the 2012 BLM permit."

Oh my god; make them responsible for their actions?! Put municipal and state legislation before the content of a commercial contract? What kind of monsters are proposing this?!

Concerned that the county could not apply the revised festival ordinance to Burning Man, the district attorney filed a petition on behalf of Nevada to make Burning Man comply with the festival law, according to the complaint. But Black Rock City says it was not a party to this "collusive litigation.""At this point an even more astonishing series of events ensued," the lawsuit states. "The petition was assigned to Judge Wagner - the very individual who had spoken out at a public hearing against the Burning Man event,

Full stop. the judge was on record as opposing the festival? that's a clear cut conflict of interest and he should have recused himself.

Lenny_da_Hog:Stop threadjacking with your hippie hate and pay attention to the authoritarian behind the curtain, troll.

I love hippies and was raised by one.However. I don't like greedy faux-hippies poseurs who are in it for nothing but the bucks. The American disease creeps, even out into the desert.YOu go high profile like this, you've got to expect The Man to come a' knocking, one way or another.I'm amazed this sham has continued for so long, given what it's become.Educate yourself before you call me a troll.

/Because calling people trolls is easier than arguing using reality-based facts, amirite?//Hippies, rednecks, they're all the same.

Weaver95:Concerned that the county could not apply the revised festival ordinance to Burning Man, the district attorney filed a petition on behalf of Nevada to make Burning Man comply with the festival law, according to the complaint. But Black Rock City says it was not a party to this "collusive litigation.""At this point an even more astonishing series of events ensued," the lawsuit states. "The petition was assigned to Judge Wagner - the very individual who had spoken out at a public hearing against the Burning Man event,

Full stop. the judge was on record as opposing the festival? that's a clear cut conflict of interest and he should have recused himself.

Like I said in the first.... er, my primary contribution:

"The petition was assigned to Judge Wagner - the very individual who had spoken out at a public hearing against the Burning Man event, had provided a public statement that the agreement between BRC and the county was not valid, had privately pressed commissioners to implement the relief requested in the petition, and who had witnessed the affidavit in support of the petition."

And he didn't recuse himself. He signed the court order the day before the petition was filed. Clear collusion.

I love hippies and was raised by one.However. I don't like greedy faux-hippies poseurs who are in it for nothing but the bucks. The American disease creeps, even out into the desert.YOu go high profile like this, you've got to expect The Man to come a' knocking, one way or another.I'm amazed this sham has continued for so long, given what it's become.Educate yourself before you call me a troll.

/Because calling people trolls is easier than arguing using reality-based facts, amirite?//Hippies, rednecks, they're all the same.

So go submit a thread about how much you hate Burning Man and stop threadjacking. I'll even vote for it to be greenlighted.

Gunderson:King Something: Do the words "Freedom of Assembly" mean anything to you? Or do you think the 1st Amendment only applies to people and groups whose views you approve of and agree with

Freedom of assembly no longer applies the moment someone charges people to 'assemble'

gotta keep the hippies in line, don'tcha know. since we can't simply flat out tell them to STFU and get lost, we stack fees sky high and then tell them that they can't have any sort of gathering unless they can pay for it. and since hippies are poor and can't for for dick, well...no speech for them!

then the authoritarians and pro-corporate types laugh and dance and laugh! oh the times they have! all because we permitted the courts to say that money==speech.

Lenny_da_Hog:HotIgneous Intruder: Make no mistake, Burning Man is all about the dead presidents and everybody wants some.

So what?

Does that mean they aren't American citizens, with the right to due process?

All you're doing is repeating Eric Cartman over and over again. You've made your point that you don't like it. Are you going to sit here all day and ignore the thread topic, or keep threadjacking?

You mean the ticket seller's organization is entitled to due process?You must be one of those corporations-are-people drones.

Anybody can go camp on the Black Rock. This land is our land, etc.Except when 2,000 acres are cordoned off and $390 admission is charged for 60,000 people.The roots of the moralistic crusader's motivation mentioned in the thread title are clearly financial and I'm underlining that point, so don't accuse me of threadjacking.

In which airheaded hipsters barely past the age of consent spend lots of (somebody's) money to frolic in the desert in mid-summer. To celebrate how "artistic" and "countercultural" and "free" they are.

Lenny_da_Hog:And he didn't recuse himself. He signed the court order the day before the petition was filed. Clear collusion.

now i'm sure that sort of thing plays well in the local court system...however, the appellate courts tend to frown on that kind of thing. not much anyone can do to a sitting judge. he can pretty much be a dick all day long and nobody can really say anything about it...but the prosecutor, on the other hand, he could face all sorts of backlash.

at any rate, i'm sure Burning Man will sort this all out. the local judge and prosecutor will lose, and likely be even MORE hostile.

Vaguely reminds me of the former Spring Breaker vs Fort Lauderdale controversy.Couldn't figure out how to soak the college kids so they kicked them out.

Stopped by in 90? 91? just to see some friends in the vicinity around Spring Break time.Reminded me of St Pete, nice and quiet, so quiet you could hear the retirement watches tickingSt. Pete, gods waiting room.

BurningMan's big business. Corporate really. Why do you think there's no more Woodstocks or anything like that anymore? Cash hungry municipalities sink a well into the accounts payable and that's the end of it.

Wondering if this is stifling the free speech of corporations they paid so much fought so hard for.

I love hippies and was raised by one.However. I don't like greedy faux-hippies poseurs who are in it for nothing but the bucks. The American disease creeps, even out into the desert.YOu go high profile like this, you've got to expect The Man to come a' knocking, one way or another.I'm amazed this sham has continued for so long, given what it's become.Educate yourself before you call me a troll.

/Because calling people trolls is easier than arguing using reality-based facts, amirite?//Hippies, rednecks, they're all the same.

HotIgneous Intruder:You mean the ticket seller's organization is entitled to due process?You must be one of those corporations-are-people drones.

*faceplam*

get the fark out of this thread you irrational shiat

you don't have to farking support corporate personhood to thing that due process should be followed at all times.

you have an irrational hate on for burning man based on the mistaken impression that they turn a profit instead of the reality where most almost all the money is spent on the incredible expensive logistics of setting up, tearing down and cleaning up an ephemeral city of 50,000 people.

HotIgneous Intruder:Anybody can go camp on the Black Rock. This land is our land, etc.Except when 2,000 acres are cordoned off and $390 admission is charged for 60,000 people.

you have no farking idea how federal lands permitting works, do you?

i have a feeling that you went to burning man, and all the hot girls shunned your mangled, ugly, 400lb cheeto inhaling ass.

Barricaded Gunman:Mouser : Why do you think the judge is jacking up the fees here? Hint: It's not due to any "moral opposition" to the event content.

Really? You don't think the fact that this judge is a Mormon has anything to do with it?

could be that the judge just doesn't like freaky people. don't have to be Mormon for that. plenty of people who hate/fear Burning Man simply because it's outside their own personal comfort zone(s). that's reason enough for them to want to see it ended.

I think the Burners are pretty cool. not my thing of course but I don't feel threatened by 'em. those 'Wasteland Weekend' people, on the other hand. now THAT'S something I'd like to go do someday.

the limit is what they can clean up after sufficiently to leave near zero trace

you can stfu about burning man's profit until you can prove it makes some, revenues are not profit you ignoramus. and for profit venues are allowed on non-wilderness BLM landsa with a permit.. what the fark do you think most of BLM's land is? IT'S GRAZING LAND\

neither do you, just an impotent rage based on the false impressions that burning man turns a significant profit because it has high revenues - while you completely ignore it has equally high expenses (LIKE CLEANING UP AFTER ITSELF) and under the completely asinine belief that for profit actions are not allowed on BLM lands.

Having been one of (undoubtedly) many Farkers who have staffed Burning Man over the years, I'm getting a kick ---

Seriously, there are as many (if not more) techies as there are 'hippies'. Good-looking people are proportionally more than 0.5 percent, too. Unless it's changed since I was there last, about 8 years ago. I was one of the only fat chicks there, given that it's kind of an outdoorsy venue.

BM is good if you value events and experiences that would never happen in real life. Drumming with Mick Fleetwood, coffee in the AM with actors and artists. Lots of unusual fun people who should have epic tales written about them -- an ex-academic physicist/mathematician in dreadlocks who just tours the country meeting up with other physicists to do calculations with. The surfer physicist who made the news a few years ago. Nurses and doctors. CEOs and students. Cute kids and old farts.