Understanding the context of the book by such title, it was written by Arthur Desmond who was a Socialist writer and activist around the late 19th century and a contemporary of Jack London who is believed by many that London was the author of the work. If you read "The Sea Wolf" by London he quotes this title. As he read the work due to being part of this circle.

Desmond stated he was sitting in a labour camp which people were simply nothing but slaves in these places, and he realized he would do anything to overthrow the system of Judeo-capitalist oppression. His work was a polemic and purposely made over the top. As away to encourage the Labour movements to take a stronger stand for their rights against the owners and oligarchs. Just watch the movie "Fist" to understand how intense the situation was. The high standard of living we had enjoyed was due to our grandfathers and great grand fathers going into the streets and fighting for higher standards and against the devaluing of their creative labour. This was also the major underlying struggle of the National Socialist German Workers Party.

That being stated. The context has been removed and this has become something different. So how do we answer the question does Might Make Right?

Simply it does not. Might divorced from virtue and ethical standards just makes criminality and thuggery. Might used in service of justice, truth and virtue makes the proper combination. The difference is between the criminal that robs someone at gun point and the Police Officer that detains the same criminal at gun point. The Japanese warrior class had a saying: "The sword that cuts down evil, is the life giving sword."

So no might does not make right, it's actually right that makes right. Force is simply a tool that can be used for wrong or in the service of right. Force on its own, is a foolish thing to praised for it's own sake. And this is the trap of this slogan it opens the door to moral relativism which is meaningless nihilism.

Real strength lays in virtue, which in the proper ancient Roman context of this term, lays in the light of the soul. And in a social order built on reason, justice, truth and such virtue.

Mao summed up the communist belief when he stated: "Political power grows from the barrel of a gun." This was the communist mentality everywhere and still is. Might Makes Right. Just look at the Communist riots in the American streets today over Trump. However the Communist Jews murdered one hundred million people in the Soviet Jewion and it still collapsed and is dust. It didn't even last a century. That is the might makes right, if it's right the Marxist Jews have the correct ideology and everyone else is wrong.

Hitler stated that political power comes from the open consent of the people and a state has to be built upon the will of the People it represents, its spirit, its ideal. Or it can't survive. Hitler is right and for those who didn't get it. Time has proven him so.

If might makes right, then an obnoxious angry kike that wants to enslave the planet his cattle just to be a parasite, is right then. And has an ethical backround as well.

People take a quote and they strip it naked of its backround and context. Many people also base criminal tendencies and stupidity on such adages. Such as "only god can judge me".

"Why did you messacre a fucking goddamn school of young fellow people, kike boosed out killer?"

"Because Might makes right; I was angry at these little goyim!"

Might makes right is a totally jewish invention. The jews lack any judgement on such things, and they could care less. So they make pseudo-laws to throw society apart. Rabbinical teaching is literally a 'might against the goy, makes right' manuscript.

Even LaVey who used this quote. Has had SOME ethical thing in mind even in an animalistic sense such as when you are attacked or obviously wronged. At least there was a set of logical rules, such as replying an attack.

Can't say the same about the jew infested successors, either, who just spewed over the table of a few decent teachings coming from occult circles. Because well jews just translate the torah wherever they go. And that's all they are good for.

As Rabbi Crowley stated, "Do what thou wilt, such as cocaine and frying your brain, shall be the whole of the law". Because apparently sacrificing innocents to reptilians is far better than...A 10 minute working a day. And a few hundreds of vibrations a week.

When judaism takes the cloaks of spirituality, that is what people get really. Because its just flat out judaism.

There's nothing mighty or powerful about judaism even as a destructive force. They are weak and pathetic this is why their whole plot is based on tricking the goyim into cursing and destroying themselves. Stripped of their programs, the entire jewish race is defenseless and pitiful on every level.

The same thing for a lot of these "gangster" faggots you see walking around. Everyone is a big man when they have a gun. Take the gun away and the average gangster instantly becomes a little bitch.

When you strip these people of their artificial strength, you realise they are lowest, most pathetic forms of life on earth.

Mao summed up the communist belief when he stated: "Political power grows from the barrel of a gun." This was the communist mentality everywhere and still is. Just look at the Communist riots in the America streets today over Trump. However the Communists murdered one hundred million people in the Soviet Jewion and it still collapsed and is dust. It didn't even last a century. That is the might makes right, if its right the Marxist jews have the correct ideology and everyone else is wrong.

Hitler stated that political power comes from the open consent of the people and a state has to be built upon the will of the People it represents, its spirit, its ideal. Or it can't survive. Hitler is right and for those who didn't get it. Time has proven him so.

Those who are without are brainwashed since birth to hate themselves, if they did what they want it would be always to die, so they would use drugs and do another things that slowly would kill them.

To live is to get power, people who want to live don't have to fear the judgement of any god because their will is in accord with nature and with Satan wich is the incarnation of the logos. So to most satanists "do what thou wilt" is valid, because our will is the will of Satan.

People still have to live with the judgement of their own karma, which is in accordance to nature. A person has an individual will as they have their own consciousness, Satan guides us and helps us out. But does not do the thinking for us in the end, no one can. We are not robots.

A person with spiritual guidance and practice over time can develop their own consciousness to a super consciousness state of awareness. Where they can obtain a understanding of cosmic realities and how to live in harmony with such in a benevolent state.

Until then "Do what thou wilt." In the context its used in is simply a childish and egotistical slogan for what every liberal hipster believes. Which is why Crowley is so famous, he was just a liberal pundit.

It would just be better to tell people. Do what is right and be wise in what you do. Within that is also a challenge to the individual to develop themselves and understand what right is and why.

Pramantha wrote:

Those who are without are brainwashed since birth to hate themselves, if they did what they want it would be always to die, so they would use drugs and do another things that slowly would kill them.

To live is to get power, people who want to live don't have to fear the judgement of any god because their will is in accord with nature and with Satan wich is the incarnation of the logos. So to most satanists "do what thou wilt" is valid, because our will is the will of Satan.

Mao summed up the communist belief when he stated: "Political power grows from the barrel of a gun." This was the communist mentality everywhere and still is. Just look at the Communist riots in the America streets today over Trump. However the Communists murdered one hundred million people in the Soviet Jewion and it still collapsed and is dust. It didn't even last a century. That is the might makes right, if its right the Marxist jews have the correct ideology and everyone else is wrong.

Hitler stated that political power comes from the open consent of the people and a state has to be built upon the will of the People it represents, its spirit, its ideal. Or it can't survive. Hitler is right and for those who didn't get it. Time has proven him so.

Let's not forget that Mao's jewish racial cousin. Stalin, had the same exact barrel of a gun understanding. Because that's communism and that is the jewish psyche. Just spreading death for no reason whatsover.

Until then "Do what thou wilt." In the context its used in is simply a childish and egotistical slogan for what every liberal hipster believes. Which is why Crowley is so famous, he was just a liberal pundit.

I thought he was a Social Darwinist trying to make the "weak" destroy themselves so only the strong would prevail. He stated that the law of Thelema was "the law of the strong".

Social Darwinism was a creation of the liberal-capitalist world. It was already around they were just able to put a pseudo scientific name on their mentality.

How strong was Crowley, he was simply a weak minded adult adolescent who spent his whole life having a tantrum against his over bearing mother. And being whacked on smack most of the time. Most of what he did was to con people for money to buy his drugs with. Added with the fact Crowley was simply a spoiled upper middle class, brat. And never had to work a day in his easy life.

Today he would simply be just another libertine SJW, literally. Purple hair and all.

Pramantha wrote:

HP Mageson666 wrote:

Until then "Do what thou wilt." In the context its used in is simply a childish and egotistical slogan for what every liberal hipster believes. Which is why Crowley is so famous, he was just a liberal pundit.

I thought he was a Social Darwinist trying to make the "weak" destroy themselves so only the strong would prevail. He stated that the law of Thelema was "the law of the strong".

The reason there is so much suffering in the world, think of it in all of its various forms, is because of the lack of virtue that was present when political power was gained. Proving everything that was said in the op correct.

I didn't finish the book, but I thought that it was good to distance yourself from the common and go above. I probably took it another way then "I gonna take what I want." It did give me the edge and explain some things I already knew that I know a little better now. Some of the early poems are epic. Also, it's even more epic as it shows the differences between Christians everything else.

I would actually ask for help with this type of literature. Every time I read like a sentence or paragraph , a flush of thoughts brought about by my understanding comes forth and betrays my focus. How the ball are you not supposed to bounce when you are brought up into the air?

If you still have some christi in you, this and daily life is a great help.

".....I'm gonna make a change for once in my life, gonna feel real good gonna make a difference..........Cause I'm talking bout that Man in the Mirror."RTR

Naturaly speaking it simply doesn't make difference, who have more power will win and dictate the rules and rights, that's all. Being moraly or ethicaly acceptable does not play a role, it's held or not by the side who has the might.

Hoodedcobra666 wrote:

If might makes right, then an obnoxious angry kike that wants to enslave the planet his cattle just to be a parasite, is right then. And has an ethical backround as well.

People take a quote and they strip it naked of its backround and context. Many people also base criminal tendencies and stupidity on such adages. Such as "only god can judge me".

True, the Marxist, Islamic and xians are a good example of this as this is the mentality of the jewish collective mind, their god. But the reality is as mentioned these ideologies used power to get their way. But once in power simply collapsed in time due to their destructive and insane paradigms.

That is why as stated force has to be coupled with truth and ethic's. In the Vedic texts you see this mentioned in the images of symbolism. The Asura's believe in Might Makes Right and they live by this principal and are evil and cruel, criminals. The Deva's use force and bring their power to bear upon the Asura's who only understand force and not reason or ethic's. And thus the Gods by their Divine power destroy the Asura's. To uphold Truth.

This goes back to the original point Might Makes Right on its own is just the ethos of any gang banger. Being able to thug on someone does make a person correct on anything. And this is the trap of this slogan it opens the door to moral relativism which is meaningless nihilism.

This book gives the false impression the European, Aryan Pagans were some comic book character's. The Aryan's had strict ethic's in warfare that survived in the code of chivalry. It was the Xian armies that acted like what that book promotes. After all the Pagan's were dead they then pretended it was the other way around.

Around the turn of the century one of the European neo-Pagan author's, was mocked by Xian writers, for not living like Conan the Barbarian novels. In fact this fellow they mocked was actually a real Pagan. These Xian retards always project the shadow of their own jewish deity on the Pagans. Hence the attempt to make Satan into the shadow of Yahweh.

bluenitwolf wrote:

I didn't finish the book, but I thought that it was good to distance yourself from the common and go above. I probably took it another way then "I gonna take what I want." It did give me the edge and explain some things I already knew that I know a little better now. Some of the early poems are epic. Also, it's even more epic as it shows the differences between Christians everything else.

I would actually ask for help with this type of literature. Every time I read like a sentence or paragraph , a flush of thoughts brought about by my understanding comes forth and betrays my focus. How the ball are you not supposed to bounce when you are brought up into the air?

If you still have some christi in you, this and daily life is a great help.

Can someone tell me what the philosophical basis for true morality is? Are there existent "moral facts" indicating an objective morality, is morality based on biological constructs which we should respect, is morality something subjective which is still useful, or is there an objective "Natural Law"?

"There will come a day, when all the lies will collapse under their own weight, and truth will again triumph."-Dr. Joseph Goebbels

Nature demands that we move forward, evolve and grow. Or we risk annihilation. True morality is the basis of a healthy society which allows us to push mankind to new levels of existence.

If we live without morals, many problems arise and mankind stagnates. Nature does not forgive weakness and stupidity. If you are weak and stupid, you will perish sooner or later. To face and survive her challenges, to ensure our continued existence, we must create a healthy, powerful civilization. Such cannot exist without morals and ethics.

Some idiots think that morals and ethics are useless fabricated concepts. These people are fools and completly blind to the grand scheme of things. These are required for civilization to thrive, and for our continued existence. We are lucky that most moral values are pretty much engraved on our souls, if we bother to heal and work on them.

The fact is that a civilization built with morals and ethics is stronger than a civilization without them. And Nature respects only strength and power. Everything else is irrelevant.

The jews, who have no morals, wouldn't last a century on their own. They are incapable of building a civilization which could survive. This is why I say there is nothing mighty about the jews or communism. They have pitiful and pathetic life spans, and cannot survive for long.

So in conclusion, we need to have morals because they make mankind stronger as a whole. And might is the deciding factor in absolutely everything.

If we lived in a universe where the jewish "morality" made civilization stronger, we would have to adopt that morality in order to survive. But evidently, jewish morality just leads to ruin.

Can someone tell me what the philosophical basis for true morality is? Are there existent "moral facts" indicating an objective morality, is morality based on biological constructs which we should respect, is morality something subjective which is still useful, or is there an objective "Natural Law"?

That is a good question. As one who takes things too literally at times, hearing/reading the words that you can do whatever you want (with consequences and what I call prosequences) makes it muddy between that which is one's choice and that which is 'right'. Satan stands for individuality, saying, "I allow people to follow the dictates of their Nature...", yet with 'absolute morality(?)' "...but s/he who opposes will regret it sorely" feels like a gumball machine in my head!

Then, if I am not misunderstanding, once you reach Godhood, you could go off and do whatever you want and to splick with Karma..., I suppose.

I think this is a good time to ask how one can 'find their true self', to find their actual person, way, Nature. Mayba ANSUZ might help with that, but MANNAZ should be the best Rune to use.

ANSUZ#4...Opens channels of self-expression and overcomes obstacles of every kind.

MANNAZ#20. Rune of logic and the left side of the brain. Used for enhancing intellect and strengthening the memory. Helps one to gain more knowledge of one’s self which is essential in working magick. Amethyst

Would I be right (as in, correct, rather than moral!) to say that after knowing oneself with MANNAZ, you would then learn/know/realise absolute morality? (Of course, I'm not talking about catholic 'absolute morality' here; I mean what Nature/Karma/Satan says is right and wrong.)

Either from Gobbels or Nietzsche, morality is any life affirming action. That action is represented by an ideal which we naturally should and must follow to continuously improve ourselves and our collective races. These ideals are what systems of government must be based off of so that it can maintain and leave behind a greater foundation. This trend will eventually have the people overwhelmed with leisure as all obstacles would have eventually been surpassed. An easier, better life for hard man and women, who were born triumphant and mighty, would be the result of those actions.

".....I'm gonna make a change for once in my life, gonna feel real good gonna make a difference..........Cause I'm talking bout that Man in the Mirror."RTR

Satan pretty much just said do whatever you want but stay out of the way. And you have to be a complete idiot to stand in the way of something far more powerful than you are.

If Satan's desire is for mankind to evolve and advance, you should filter out desires which get in the way of that. Not because "it's the right thing to do" in some black & white bullshit view of good and evil, but because he's a lot more powerful than you are and you don't want to piss him off. It's as simple as that, really.

The only true "right" choice is the one which makes you stronger and increases your chances of survival. Making powerful enemies does not increase your chances of survival. But, aligning your desires with the desires of those greater than you gives them no reason to want to destroy you. That's why siding with Satan is the right choice, that and of course His willingness to grant us the knowledge to become gods ourselves also makes it obvious that this is the only right choice.

Doing as Satan instructs is the right choice under Nature's laws. Satan can show you how to become stronger and vastly improve your chances of survival. Satan can also destroy you if you oppose him, thus that is the wrong choice under Nature's laws, because it will probably lead to your destruction.

The right choice is the one which leads to strength and survival. The wrong choice is the one which leads to death and ruin. It's as simple as that. Nature is blind to "Good" and "Evil", thus these are irrelevant and useless concepts.

Proper moral principals are Dharmic principals which are codified in a moral-social order. It comes from the soul. As one becomes more enlightened their understanding of correct ethic's increases. Its not a mistake the Rishi's were the creators of moral laws and principals into society to guide the rest of mankind till they could reach the same spiritual level.

Satan pretty much just said do whatever you want but stay out of the way. And you have to be a complete idiot to stand in the way of something far more powerful than you are.

If Satan's desire is for mankind to evolve and advance, you should filter out desires which get in the way of that. Not because "it's the right thing to do" in some black & white bullshit view of good and evil, but because he's a lot more powerful than you are and you don't want to piss him off. It's as simple as that, really.

The only true "right" choice is the one which makes you stronger and increases your chances of survival. Making powerful enemies does not increase your chances of survival. But, aligning your desires with the desires of those greater than you gives them no reason to want to destroy you. That's why siding with Satan is the right choice, that and of course His willingness to grant us the knowledge to become gods ourselves also makes it obvious that this is the only right choice.

Doing as Satan instructs is the right choice under Nature's laws. Satan can show you how to become stronger and vastly improve your chances of survival. Satan can also destroy you if you oppose him, thus that is the wrong choice under Nature's laws, because it will probably lead to your destruction.

The right choice is the one which leads to strength and survival. The wrong choice is the one which leads to death and ruin. It's as simple as that. Nature is blind to "Good" and "Evil", thus these are irrelevant and useless concepts.

Satan would "destroy" those who oppose. This could be agreed upon in a different way. Yes. But, uh, if the Gods tried to help and you purposely turned down, the fault would be in your actions as the consequences they might bare would do nature's job. Satan and the Gods of Hall are helping to elevate and bring about greater change to humanity. If humanity as any other hand dont accept that handout, then we suffer from a lack.

".....I'm gonna make a change for once in my life, gonna feel real good gonna make a difference..........Cause I'm talking bout that Man in the Mirror."RTR

My reply here is rather complicated and I think complex, but please read it and reply! Sorry in advance!

So on the topic of "does might make right?", "only the strongest survive"; therefore, all weaklings must be crushed into dust and nothingness (because, if I'm not mistaken, the weak are meaningless to Satan), or ignored and left to drift into weaker and weaker existence, into eventual non-existence, if they are 'without', or are not able to improve themselves, for example. (Then again, in an extreme case, someone with severe mental illness I wouldn't expect to be able to reincarnate, so their Soul will be lost (unless protected) after they die this physical time. Furthermore, from what I read, every person has strenghts to bring to Society, Race, and the Universe as a whole. Should we allow the weaker to dissipate into nothingness? If, of course, they choose, repeatedly, to be careless and apathetic - if after enough chances - then fuck them.)

I didn't think Satan and the Gods were harsh like that. Karma kicks people's arses if they need it (yet, the point of the Magnum Opus is to escape Karma...which, in my brain, means you can then go off and do any moral/immoral/whatever act you want, and to splick with the consequences, as I said...), so would it not be beneath Satan and the Gods to punish someone (in most circumstances; if attacking your own Gods/creators, for example, then that's an obvious invite for punishment and more) but rather leave Nature's Karma to do it, automatically? There is still a lot of shit I have to sort out. At the very least, I do want to be with Satan, not just because of the sense that I "fear and respect him" (although, that wouldn't be inaccurate, entirely) but because he granted me opportunities and abilities, but also for the reason of simply - why not?

That leads me on to say once you become a God, you could then go and do whatever moral or immoral thing/s you want, as I said - as I suppose, that is. That leads me onto this - once one reaches Godhood and cannot die, could they then be destroyed by the more powerful (i.e. mightier) Gods/beings/entities? I know a very small bit of ancient mythology, where a god, Kronos, was cut up into pieces and was scattered across Tartarus, but because he was a god he was still alive... (Then there is the question of why he didn't protect himself, being a god, but if it's as with our God and Gods, I can only assume Kronos was outnumbered.)

In my limited knowledge and understanding, I realise the very real posibility that some might use Satan's Magnum Opus to reach immortality, then either defect, turn away, or leave - they have then become mightier than Karma so whatever...would/could they be destroyed, and might Satan/the Gods either destroy them,

in a physical life before reaching Godhood,

after their physical death before their next incarnation, or

disallow them from reincarnating

in order to prevent them from defecting/whatever? (I am assuming Satan/the Gods have a say in whose Soul can and cannot reincarnate; I'm still a bit uncertain about that. Maybe They leave Souls to reincarnate Naturally, and don't interfere, unless asked to protect a loved one's Soul, for example.)

As for the paraphrase, "Do what you want, but stay out of the way"...doing something immoral/bad/wrong/whatever against someone either because you have more might than they ("might = right?") or because you merely want to do something against them because you enjoy it, or whatever, might (as in may) be OK, if you stay out of the way - but depending on what thing/s you do against the 'lesser' or weaker, less-mightier person, you might be depriving them of opportunities for themselves to reach Godhood; so then, how can you 'stay out of the way', when that goes against Satan's wishes directly? Do what you want to this person (deprive them of advancement in one way or another), but stay out of the way (Satan/the Gods won't intervene to help the 'weaker' person, because you're staying out of the way). Then, you might be the tool which Nature's Karma is using to Karma-ise that person whom you only thought you enjoyed hurting/whatever... So then would you have Karma come and kick your arse for Karma-ising that person...or not, because you were merely a tool?

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Then what about young children who are murdered; aborted in the womb; die in cot death; die by accident; etc.? Their Karma is robbing them of the chance to improve and advance, but for the murdered and aborted points, that is a choice by the mightier person, which then, if I am not mistaken, adds a slice of Karma to both the child's Soul and the mightier person's Soul (the persons you know in this life, you will know in your next life, if you don't do anything to change it, and your family/friends will tend to be the same persons/Souls; therefore, the mightier person will continue to abort/murder, so the aborted/murdered Soul has lesser and lesser chances, and dissipates into nothingness), that the 'lesser' Soul would be aborted or murdered in their next incarnation and/because the mightier person will also abort/murder the same Soul in their next incarnation, rinse, repeat...

Wouldn't Satan/the Gods step in to either stop you from aborting the unborne child, or murdering the borne child, so s/he can have proper opportunities - or perhaps s/he did terrible things in previous lives and this is their Natural Karmic punishment... Then again, if a Soul is in his/her first incarnation, and his/her parents' Souls are shit (causing this new Soul to have a shit start before s/he hardly exists), or the parents decide to abort the first-incarnated unborne (not giving the Soul any chance), or someone decides to murder the first-incarnated borne young child (not giving the Soul any chance)...then they can't have a chance, which goes against Satan and the Gods' wishes, so as Mightier, they should step in somehow... However, then, if a child is your child, then you can treat him/her as you want - "Don't tell me how to raise my child! S/he is my child; I will raise him/her as I want!", would, then, you be able to mistreat your own said child/ren and 'stay out of the way' (still - how can one stay out of the way?! Karma and Satan are not very far behind!) and live a jolly and cheerful life, while depriving said child/ren of opportunities?!

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Your Pagan children are still also children of Satan (of course, other Races are their respective Gods' children), so are you to be in full and complete responsibility for, and have full and complete authority over, your child/ren, having free rein as to what you do with them; how you treat them; what you teach them; how you let them behave; etc., or is Satan/the Gods going to say, "Excuse me. Yes, I gave you life; responsibilities; authority; etc., Parent, but I also gave your Child/ren, who are also my Child/ren, life, so stop what you're doing...", or if they're your child/ren, then you do what you want? Children will be shaped and will copy off others around them, innevitably, whether you intend that to happen or not. If I am an immoral person (and I'll admit I am not the most moral person), then my child/ren will pick up on that, without thinking, automatically (depending on their Souls, of course; if they are their first incarnation, then my/partner's influences will be more or less absolute). If I live in a quiet neighbourhood with older people, then the sociality, the culture there is one way and my children will be very used to older persons; if I live in the 'hood, it will be different, entirely, and my children will be drug dealers by the time they're 8 years old...

I am using "children" here to mean one's own biological offspring, but it could also mean employees; friends; poor people; the drug-addicted homeless; etc. - any person who is 'under', 'weaker', 'lesser', etc., than you, less-mighty than you, in which the term "children" does make sense, in a way.

Furthermore, as I said, maybe something happening against someone is a Natural Karmic punishment in this life because they did terribly shit things in previous lives; the person/s who, in an example, might do a thing, or things, against them in this life are Natural Karma's tools to inflict that Karmic punishment (think of any crime against any person) due to their previous-life actions. Then, should that person tool/those persons tools who are the mightier, in a sense, be punished for Karma-ing this person?

I know someone who had very bad things happen against them. Judging by the example someone said before "if you were a murderer in your previous life, you will be in this one" - this person who had things done against them must have had the same things happen against them in their previous life/lives, but also judging by how this person is, I can't think that they did any bad things which would warrant such Karmic punishment(?)/actions against them now. Of course, the 'mightier' person in this case was the person doing the things against this person I know. Were they right to do that, being the 'mightier', or were they a mere tool of Natural Karma to inflict what I can't say, in all honesty, is a punishment upon this person whom I know?

Oh. Dear. This reply started off very short, in comparison!

I think someone might say these are very hypothetical, but looking at

the state of the world,

new Souls being created in the hundreds of thousands per day (I am guessing), and

the sheer number of people, which gives any number of possible combinations

I would say they are rather more 'thetical' or 'hyper-thetical', if you will, then hypo-thetical.

I don't think the gods are harsh at all, the way they treat us is absolutely perfect and pushes us to improve. Many people have a very infantile and individualistic point of view and because of this they come to the wrong conclusions.

Nature only cares about strength and power. This does not mean we need to go out and destroy everything that is bellow us, this actually just makes us weaker. The strong should give the weak a chance to improve and make themselves strong as well, this is how you achieve a powerful unit or society.

The weak are generally in a position of neutrality, and there is no reason to go out of your way to destroy them, as accepting weakness and choosing idleness will just lead to their own destruction anyway. Then there's the toxic people, the ones who destroy civilization from within. These are the people who not only accept their own weakness, but promote it and try to make others weak and worthless like themselves.

This is the true opposition that needs to be destroyed. An example of true opposition to Satan is using political power to flood His people's nations with a deadly disease such as Islam.

As for godhood, do not think that once you achieve that you have a free pass to do everything you want. Nothing is indestructible, this is an infantile belief. Even a powerful god can be bound and drained to the point of dissipation. Even after godhood, you are still subject to Nature's most basic rule, which cannot be defied. That which is stronger than you, may destroy you. Nature can be easily defied in most ways, but that rule is pretty much the supreme law. So no, I don't think pulling a darth vader on Satan is a good idea even after you achieve godhood.

But here's the thing, there is no reason to ever do that. Satan gives you freedom anyways. Why would one ever turn on Satan?

This being not only created you, but also created you with free will and allows you to excercise that free will. He shouldn't even have to tell us not to get in his way because that is the least we can do for such a great ally.

And you cannot expect Satan to do our work for us. We are the ones who need to build a civilization which allows everyone (or as many people as possible) a fair chance. A lot of people end up being destroyed without even getting a chance, this is OUR fault for letting it get this bad. We don't have the right to moan and complain at the gods when this kind of stuff happens, in fact they are the ones who have the right to nag at us for letting it get this bad.

Satan gave us spiritual knowledge which will allow us to build a healthy and powerful civilization. And as we turn the tables and slowly begin to take control once more, his opposition is being destroyed by us. Satan IS stepping in to destroy those who oppose him and he's doing it through us.

Through HIS guidance, WE are destroying those who oppose him. We are the instrument of his will on Earth.

The thing is, if you achieve godhood you wont have such desires because your mind will be 100000 times more advanced than you are now and, fuck even just advancing a little bit will make your mind be more powerful and thus you will not ask such questions, do you meditate Fancy Mancy?

No offense intended, but what I'm reading sounds like a blow-hard contest. Morality is a relative term, like the concept of temperature. Problem is that the joos don't recognize anyone else's concept of might or right. And they've got thousands of years of programming behind their cankerous ideas!

It's the joo that says math rules the universe. Think about it. Math is the basis for their *might*. Let's do away with math. Then money would soon fall. Then the joos would go insane and die off! Lol.

It's because I love you. :hug: Lol. Sorry. I started off with a small reply, but then it became fuller and more padded...

I don't think the gods are harsh at all, the way they treat us is absolutely perfect and pushes us to improve. Many people have a very infantile and individualistic point of view and because of this they come to the wrong conclusions.

You could be a bit more subtle than that! (I know, though.)

...But here's the thing, there is no reason to ever do that. Satan gives you freedom anyways. Why would one ever turn on Satan?

Yes, exactly. As has been said, as well - the more advanced you become the more you realise and understand, to the point that you should not turn away from Satan. On the other hand, enemy Nordics did, so it is still very possible that some might use Satan's magick then defect.

...And you cannot expect Satan to do our work for us. We are the ones who need to build a civilization which allows everyone (or as many people as possible) a fair chance. A lot of people end up being destroyed without even getting a chance, this is OUR fault for letting it get this bad. We don't have the right to moan and complain at the gods when this kind of stuff happens, in fact they are the ones who have the right to nag at us for letting it get this bad.

I don't think I can remember a time when I have not wanted to either be a part of, or help to create, a perfect civilisation. Admittedly, one of the earlier times was when I was a kike-on-a-kross bitch, though. At least now I am not as misguided than I was.

Satan gave us spiritual knowledge which will allow us to build a healthy and powerful civilization. And as we turn the tables and slowly begin to take control once more, his opposition is being destroyed by us. Satan IS stepping in to destroy those who oppose him and he's doing it through us.

Through HIS guidance, WE are destroying those who oppose him. We are the instrument of his will on Earth.

That's an honour and privilege!

Edoardo wrote:

The thing is, if you achieve godhood you wont have such desires because your mind will be 100000 times more advanced than you are now and, fuck even just advancing a little bit will make your mind be more powerful and thus you will not ask such questions, do you meditate Fancy Mancy?

Oh, I am working on things, thanks. I am just rather a bit slower, so it seems.

I do need to get these thoughts out of my head - or 'off my chest'. I like to have others to have some input, which helps me, of course. What I'm thinking how it is with me is that I have slow acceleration, but once I get going my momentum carries me.

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Dahaarkan wrote:

I don't think the gods are harsh at all, the way they treat us is absolutely perfect and pushes us to improve. Many people have a very infantile and individualistic point of view and because of this they come to the wrong conclusions.

I always came to the conclusions that if I wasn't useful in any way whether I'm doing rituals or fully, 100% dedicating myself to furthering this cause in every way that's physically, mentally, and spiritually possible, I would be cast out as a nobody and the Gods would hate me. Due to nihilist thinking, the fear of the Gods abandoning me because of my own perceived weakness (which I may not even have, but mental illness is a bitch) and being pathetic regardless that I'm trying the best I can.

Dahaarkan wrote:

Nature only cares about strength and power. This does not mean we need to go out and destroy everything that is bellow us, this actually just makes us weaker. The strong should give the weak a chance to improve and make themselves strong as well, this is how you achieve a powerful unit or society.

If Nature only cares about strength and power, and we are to follow Nature's laws, aren't we supposed to care only about strength and power as well?

Dahaarkan wrote:

As for godhood, do not think that once you achieve that you have a free pass to do everything you want. Nothing is indestructible, this is an infantile belief. Even a powerful god can be bound and drained to the point of dissipation. Even after godhood, you are still subject to Nature's most basic rule, which cannot be defied. That which is stronger than you, may destroy you. Nature can be easily defied in most ways, but that rule is pretty much the supreme law. So no, I don't think pulling a Darth Vader on Satan is a good idea even after you achieve godhood.

But here's the thing, there is no reason to ever do that. Satan gives you freedom anyways. Why would one ever turn on Satan?

Exactly my thinking. It doesn't matter how powerful I become or anybody, we should still embrace Him.

Dahaarkan wrote:

And you cannot expect Satan to do our work for us. We are the ones who need to build a civilization which allows everyone (or as many people as possible) a fair chance. A lot of people end up being destroyed without even getting a chance, this is OUR fault for letting it get this bad. We don't have the right to moan and complain at the gods when this kind of stuff happens, in fact they are the ones who have the right to nag at us for letting it get this bad.

Shitty humans get into power and then destroy their own country. Empires rise and fall. Sunrise, sunset. I only wish that most people were not that stupid.

So might does make right, because it's nature. But how you are with your might over others can create a Utopia or a State of Fear.

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If Nature only cares about strength and power, and we are to follow Nature's laws, aren't we supposed to care only about strength and power as well?.

Killing or despising the weak does not make us stronger. The reason a lot of people here like to say such things is because they are insecure about themselves and need to make up bullshit to make themselves feel powerful and special.

The true power and might of our kind is in unity and civilization, giving the weak a chance to improve themselves makes for a much more powerful civilization than one where the few strong hoard all the power and knowledge to themselves. That's why Satan opens his arms to all of his children not just a select few.

Satan's knowledge is to be made available to all gentiles so all gentiles have a chance to become strong in their own right. And the more "weak" that improve and join the spiritual elite, the more powerful mankind as a whole will become. This stupid shit of "fuck the weak" comes from a cringy emo misanthropic way of thinking and has no place here in my opinion.

If Nature only cares about strength and power, and we are to follow Nature's laws, aren't we supposed to care only about strength and power as well?.

Killing or despising the weak does not make us stronger. The reason a lot of people here like to say such things is because they are insecure about themselves and need to make up bullshit to make themselves feel powerful and special.

The true power and might of our kind is in unity and civilization, giving the weak a chance to improve themselves makes for a much more powerful civilization than one where the few strong hoard all the power and knowledge to themselves. That's why Satan opens his arms to all of his children not just a select few.

Satan's knowledge is to be made available to all gentiles so all gentiles have a chance to become strong in their own right. And the more "weak" that improve and join the spiritual elite, the more powerful mankind as a whole will become. This stupid shit of "fuck the weak" comes from a cringy emo misanthropic way of thinking and has no place here in my opinion.

Basically people get might or power has its way, with this being some moral argument. Its not, the two are not the same. Some crazy robbing a person with a gun is not moral and every society on earth knows this already.