Each person approaches entertainment differently. I am one that can't and won't strip myself of my morals and beliefs when I watch/read 'entertainment'. I get it's rare but it's how I work. Things should be cut and dry but they aren't because people are grey to me. For me there is right and there is wrong. Not condoning violence doesn't make one weak as some seem to imply. I don't think much of anything has been executed well NJO on. Including both of the Solo brothers.

It's not that, more that it renders those who hold the view as utterly unsuitable to be involved in warfare of any kind or even in a supporting role of say engineer or medic, as they'd still be contributing to the war they object to.

I feel like people are generalizing Jacen by suggesting that he's opposed to combat. He engages in it time and again. Just because he views it as even more of a last resort doesn't mean he should be labeled as a pacifist or "not condoning" violence.

I think reducing the conflict to a less cataclysmic level would have worked better for Jacen's position. I mean post-DW, until TUF dropped a pile of power-ups on the Vong, the moral quandry hanging over the story is: If the Jedi and NR have to kill every Vong to win, should they? Certainly that's the path Shimmraa has committed the Vong to, but it's known to the readers at least, there's the Shamed Ones to factor in.

But then, at the end, there's that mind-boggling stat of 365 trillion dead.

I think the same story points could have been made, but more effectively - for stories, unlike finances, less can be more!

Its kind of odd, as Luke throughout his career(and when in character) usually follows that same ideal as well. See Mindor, I think when it comes to Jacen I feel writers had to reemphasize his stance over and over again that it wore on the readers patience.

I think reducing the conflict to a less cataclysmic level would have worked better for Jacen's position. I mean post-DW, until TUF dropped a pile of power-ups on the Vong, the moral quandry hanging over the story is: If the Jedi and NR have to kill every Vong to win, should they? Certainly that's the path Shimmraa has committed the Vong to, but it's known to the readers at least, there's the Shamed Ones to factor in.

But then, at the end, there's that mind-boggling stat of 365 trillion dead.

I think the same story points could have been made, but more effectively - for stories, unlike finances, less can be more!

I haven't read any of the FOTJ books, I was really into the NJO books, then after SBS I just lost complete interest in Star Wars as a whole. Hoping the new movies sparks some interest like before, who knows. Anakin was my fav EU character, and while some might call him 'overrated' I think he was underrated in the end, never really accomplishing his full potential. Could have done way more with the character than have him die the way they did. Felt like they were desperate for ideas. Even the whole role swap with Jacen idea seems BLAH to me. I feel that Jaina is built up so much, she became overrated, to the point I cant stand her, so I don't even want to read LOTF or FOTJ...Yet I should be glad for a strong female character to enjoy watching grow. Shes someone I would like to shake and say "Whats wrong with you?!" and as for Jacen...eh...I liked him back when he would say "Wat to hear a joke?" Joke was on him in the end...
May have to for the sake of knowing the entire story of whats been going on, read a bunch of books it seems. Im pitifully behind

I think it may have been more interesting if the swap had happened, but either way, Anakin was going to die, just later lol. In reality, a non force user Skywalker/Solo would be a refreshing change from the usual.

Its kind of odd, as Luke throughout his career(and when in character) usually follows that same ideal as well. See Mindor, I think when it comes to Jacen I feel writers had to reemphasize his stance over and over again that it wore on the readers patience.

Yep. I was pretty bored of Jacen by about the middle of Balance Point, and I kind of laughed when he gave up the Force only to pick it back up 5 minutes later.

I'd be interested to hear your perspective since I would guess most Jacen fans were unhappy with Caedus.

Are you a Jacen in NJO fan, or did you become a fan due to LOTF?

Interesting question. I liked Jacen as a teen in NJO trying to find answers to big questions during a war. Traitor I loathed to start but on the 2nd reading something clicked with me which I fundamentally enjoyed. But I became more attached from DNT onwards, watching him take those little logical steps towards inevitably falling. I enjoyed the possibility that he was right, and enjoyed the grey he brought to Star Wars. And then I loved it when FotJ took the grey back out and handed us the consequences of his actions.

The first Star Wars novel (that wasn't technically geared toward young readers) I ever picked up was Revelation, and the first line in it is "My brother died in the Yuuzhan Vong War. Not Anakin, Jacen." That officially spoiled the death of Anakin for me, I'd never read NJO up until much later when I found Conquest and Rebirth at the library. If I hadn't found so much of his character in those books, he might not have remained my favorite Star Wars character for much longer after that.