IKEA is Anti-Concealed Carry and Open Carry Store and presumed anti-RTBA

IKEA is Anti-Concealed Carry and Open Carry Store and presumed anti-RTBA

This is a discussion on IKEA is Anti-Concealed Carry and Open Carry Store and presumed anti-RTBA within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; My wife loves IKEA, and she has been to several. I don't like going, but I did accompany her once...here in FL. I CC'd and ...

I have been in an out of Ikea a lot for the last several weeks. I am refurnishing a home office. Their Galant series is actually decent office furniture. Their other stuff really sucks as it is cheap fiberboard (not even MDF). I find the best thing to do with Ikea is go there to discover what you like then find it used on Craig's List. I literally got $500 worth of furniture for $100. However, some of the littler twerpy accessories I cannot find so I have been in there a lot. I carry concealed and no one mentioned a thing to me.

My wife and I both consider IKEA to be a purveyor of cheap, dorm-quality furniture. They give a 'new' look to couches and beds of lesser quality than American made heavily used garage sale items. I'm sure the redistribution of poverty in Europe and Africa has made them the largest furniture dealer on the planet; obviously few in Europe can afford better. In a heavily indebted economy, IKEA is there with their stapled junk that appears vogue on the outside but is as cut-rate as an Obama Dollar on the inside.

Personally, I consider it to be a sign of decline that IKEA is making it here in America.

Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada, 542 U.S. 177 (2004), held that statutes requiring suspects to identify themselves during police investigations did not violate either the Fourth or Fifth Amendments. Under the rubric of Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968), the minimal intrusion on a suspect's privacy and the legitimate need of law enforcement officers to quickly dispel suspicion that an individual is engaged in criminal activity justified asking a suspect to identify himself.

IMO you talked entirely too much to the police. In your shoes I would have asked if I was free to leave as soon as the cop said “I think you know what this is about” and I wouldn’t have answered any questions beyond the mandatory stop and identify. Treo’s first rule of police interactions “If you talk to a cop long enough you will say something he can use against you.” If a cop tells you you’re free to leave shut up and do it if he tells you you’re not ask for a lawyer, tell the cop you have nothing further to say and shut up.

IMO you talked entirely too much to the police. In your shoes I would have asked if I was free to leave as soon as the cop said “I think you know what this is about” and I wouldn’t have answered any questions beyond the mandatory stop and identify. Treo’s first rule of police interactions “If you talk to a cop long enough you will say something he can use against you.” If a cop tells you you’re free to leave shut up and do it if he tells you you’re not ask for a lawyer, tell the cop you have nothing further to say and shut up.

you only have to verbally ID yourself if the state requires it for instance GA doesnt have a stop and ID statute(unless loitering or prowling)

you only have to verbally ID yourself if the state requires it for instance GA doesnt have a stop and ID statute

True however, if you go to opencarry.org the OP TVANCE refused to give even his name. I'd give that much and in Colorado (given I'm carrying) I'm required to produce my permit and a valid ID upon demand

Our IKEA has a "Weapons Free Zone" sign on the entrance, but doesn't explicitly say you can't carry. I wondered how that would be interpreted if push came to shove, because in AZ the sign is all the business owner needs to do to establish their rights to not allow OC or CCW.

True however, if you go to opencarry.org the OP TVANCE refused to give even his name. I'd give that much and in Colorado (given I'm carrying) I'm required to produce my permit and a valid ID upon demand

I'm late to this party, but I wanted to share about my visit to Ikea in Frisco, Texas last week. They have the cutest little graphic on the glass door, the ubiquitous "gunbuster" with the text "weapons-free environment." Texas has some pretty specific rules about how business owners can prohibit concealed carry on their property, and this little fantasy about being "weapons-free" doesn't meet the standard, so my XD(M) stayed right there on my hip, where it belongs.

My wife and I shared a chuckle about what they must have been picturing as they put up that graphic. They must have imagined a crazed killer heading in with the intent of shedding blood, and who, upon being confronted with their happy little graphic, mutters "Oh, crap" to himself and meekly slinks away.

But I will have to say that open carry will likely get to the point where you can go nowhere while open carrying except public property. It will be a bunch of OC guys standing around in a public park talking to each other.

Also I will say that we have an IKEA loft bed and it is a solid well made hardware piece of furniture.

I'd spent a fair amount of money with Ikea in my 20s to come to the final decision to STOP.
Much of their furniture is garbage by design (it does not hold up) and/or is unnecessarily maddeningly difficult to assemble when home...And I have a ME background as well as in the past worked as a machinist and assembler.

IMHO IKEA hardware & furniture is a waste of time and coin unless you stick to the stuff that can't break/wear out from normal use such as their cheap lithographs and low cost prints as well as table settings.
Ikea is all kinds of not "fuufuu". It's low quality Target type _over priced_ for what it is gear, only in a blue & yellow colored box store.

BTW Ikea was recently outed by a top level insider as being a corporate fiefdom and highly racist as well as sexist and nationalist internally at the corporate headquarters as by it's 'ruler'.

I have not stepped foot in an Ikea in over a decade.
There is no good reason to do so from my current view.
As well I will not knowingly support with my discretionary income a company whos leadership has views and behaves as are reported.

But I will have to say that open carry will likely get to the point where you can go nowhere while open carrying except public property. It will be a bunch of OC guys standing around in a public park talking to each other.

Also I will say that we have an IKEA loft bed and it is a solid well made hardware piece of furniture.

Naah, I don't think so. It's mostly the national corps and franchises that push that socialist crap. Many small businesses and mom/pop operations not only respect OC, but encourage their patrons to exercise their rights.

The reaction and policies toward gun carry is all about where you spend your money.