Sounds like the ideal place to be skromfols. We have the weather here in Malta but being such a small island its more like living in a city. Luckily we have Italy just up the road so we get some good rides and great pasta!

CrazyTrain, I lived in Northern Italy for a year and remember just how fantastic those roads were. It was one of the few times that I didn't have a motorcycle (I had an Alfa Julietta Sprint), which was a calculated decision on my part. The Italians seem to be crazy drivers, but what I finally realized is that most of them are very skilled, but very aggressive, and they just drove by different rules that I understood. So the protection of 4 wheels and body work made me feel much more secure. And the Alfa was almost as much fun as a motorcycle.

I've had 3 Triumphs with their TORs. The TORs for the Bonnie made it sound just like the classic pea shooters. The TORs for the Rocket are outrageous. I had to walk way from the bike to carry on a conversation. They're not as loud as the Jardines bit the sound quality is kick-ass. The short TORs for the T-Bird are fairly quiet at idle but they come alive pretty nicely under acceleration.

The thing to remember is that if you go with ANY aftermarket exhausts, the stock tunes will more than likely not be optimal. Then you either need to spend significant bucks to get it re-tuned for the new exhaust or settle for an OEM or someone else's custom tune that may not optimal for your bike. You can always get the new exhaust dyno tested after you install them and they may turn out to be OK. But if they're not, you're screwed. Considering how much these exhaust systems cost, this doesn't seem like a good outcome.

Hence why I went with TORS exhaust pipes, had the dealer install at the first service and also update the mapping which was created by Triumph. Loading the new map was free with the exhaust and install...I think it was around $500 in total just for the exhaust and install.

I like the way my TORs look and they are great quality but they are just far too quiet for me. On WOT they are ok but at idle, like someome else said, they sound like stock pipes. Loud pipes save lives....or so they say.

I've had 3 Triumphs with their TORs. The TORs for the Bonnie made it sound just like the classic pea shooters. The TORs for the Rocket are outrageous. I had to walk way from the bike to carry on a conversation. They're not as loud as the Jardines bit the sound quality is kick-ass. The short TORs for the T-Bird are fairly quiet at idle but they come alive pretty nicely under acceleration.

The thing to remember is that if you go with ANY aftermarket exhausts, the stock tunes will more than likely not be optimal. Then you either need to spend significant bucks to get it re-tuned for the new exhaust or settle for an OEM or someone else's custom tune that may not optimal for your bike. You can always get the new exhaust dyno tested after you install them and they may turn out to be OK. But if they're not, you're screwed. Considering how much these exhaust systems cost, this doesn't seem like a good outcome.

Makes a lot of sense. You've convinced me that TORS are the way to go. If I get bored of them I can always change them. Now to decide long or short.....though I'm more inclined to go with the short. My bike arrives in Malta on Monday 19th. Can't wait! Going to be a 'surprise' since I'm getting the matte black option and haven't managed to see a decent picture in that colour. Good times.

If I may "pipe" in here, (pun intended), I'm kinda in the deciding process of aftermarket exhaust for my '09 America. I'm up in the air between the BC Bombers and the Cocktail Shakers. I've viewed many Youtube clips, but it's difficult to know what they sound like unless you hear them in real life. I love the sound of the Shakers, but I like the look of the Bombers. To me, the Bombers sound a little more mellow than the Shakers. At least in the clips I've seen/heard. Is this just my perception, poor recording/audio or do the Bombers actually sound more similar to the Shakers than what I perceive? I don't want to get some and then be disappointed. So, who swears by the Bombers...anyone???

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When I bought my 2011 America I loved the bike, but hated the sound. Somewhere I read that it was described as sounding like a sewing machine, and I could not get that phrase out of my head. I bought the long TORS and found that they make my bike sound like what I want a motorcycle to sound like, but honestly, for me they are still a bit TOO loud. If there was some way to tamp them down just a bit it would be perfect. I was told that they add about 10% to the horsepower of this bike, but I never noticed any difference. I think that because they are louder than stock, they make the bike seem to have more power. I still own my stock pipes, but I am sticking with the TORS.

Congrats on your new bike!!! As has been said, they do instal these pipes right off the showroom floor. The first Speedmaster I ever rode was a carbed one with TORs installed during a dealer demo event. That sound, along with the character of the bike did it for me. I knew someday I'd own one.
I put the short TORs on my 07. I would have preferred the long ones as I like the look, but I got a screaming deal on the short ones. I did remove the washers that were tack welded in the inlets, a common mod which they say makes them sound a bit deeper. The short TORs are slightly louder than the long ones of course, a few more inches of baffle is why. I'm very happy with the sound of these short ones, they have the traits I was interested in; at idle they're barely more noticeable over stock, (I leave for work early and have close neighbors,) they have a nice bark to em as you twist the throttle, but most importantly to me, at cruising speeds they are actually very quiet until you really twist the throttle. I can't even hear them at 60mph, which is exactly what I wanted.
They don't have the flow like the British Customs pipes, but I really wasn't after outright power. So the question is, how loud do you want them to be.

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