The Cardinal Grand Cross, April 23rd: Change is A'Coming!

Looked up some configurations in astrodienst, an online ephemeris and Mars is in Libra and Uranus is in Aries - not traditional earthquake signs BUT
Libra wants to balance and Aries wants action and man wants to frack.

During the dates April 11 through to mid-July there is earthquake potential and we have been experiencing a series of earthquakes.

The closest alignments come around April 24 and continue to the end of April. When Mars goes direct again, there are some close dates in June.

And I'll be the Scorpio that stings that baby deer. Just kidding! I disagree with you. I think that something serious is going down. It doesn't, IMO,
have to be a human conflict. It could be a so-called natural disaster. And yeah, if they want to be considered as above-the-cut astrologists, they
have to get their head out of their [blank]s, and wake up from la-la land. Astrology is not just sunshine beams and lollipops.

All astrological systems are valid, just different. The system being considered here is the Tropical, if I'm not mistaken. I'm kind of rusty with my
astrological knowledge. That's why I'm frequenting ATS and not Noel Tyl!

Not understanding astrology is ignorance. Due to the reductionist mindset of scientist they fail to understand the context within which astrology
works.

Simple, really simple.

Hey, I resemble that remark LOL. Being an engineer and scientist/physicist and not really having the requisite bedside manner to entertain the
diaphanous and airy-fairy, I guess that puts me in the category of an ignorant reductionist. Oh wait, I do understand astrology, and its context is
it's a nice story that people make money on, from people who don't know any better, is that about right?

But I could be wrong, I am only human (for now). Maybe astrology or higher math or string theory or quantum mechanics is the Master Programmer's way
of writing on the tapestry of the universe, dynamic and static messages left there for us to try to interpret so we can finally achieve physical
liberation from our material prison, who knows? When we all awake in turn from our dream of a reality we think we exist in, I guess we'll find out
eh? In the meantime, we are all ignorant, we really don't know much of anything on a cosmic scale. If you ask 100 astrologers what the Cardinal Cross
means, you'll get 100 different answers. If you ask 100 physicists about string theory, chances are you'll get 100, at least, slightly different
answers.

All astrological systems are valid, just different. The system being considered here is the Tropical, if I'm not mistaken. I'm kind of rusty with my
astrological knowledge. That's why I'm frequenting ATS and not Noel Tyl!

Sorry...don't know Tyl/tropical. Dane Rudhyar, however, rocks, imo. I'm not an astrologer - just someone who thinks that astrology and astronomy
should never have gotten a divorce! And also somebody who knows that the solar system and everything else surrounding it is 3-dimensional so when
considering angles, that has to be considered too, imo.

Man i dont get how you can have a scientific mind and completely misunderstand so much?

Don't you get it? Its environmental, the sun works cyclically, its affects affect how we think, it affects our enviornment, it affects when we choose
to sleep which affects the choices we make throughout the day and so and and so forth and this idea applys cosmically.

And I'll be the Scorpio that stings that baby deer. Just kidding! I disagree with you. I think that something serious is going down. It doesn't,
IMO, have to be a human conflict. It could be a so-called natural disaster. And yeah, if they want to be considered as above-the-cut astrologists,
they have to get their head out of their [blank]s, and wake up from la-la land. Astrology is not just sunshine beams and lollipops.

I am going to start a new "pseudo science" based on the behavior of cats and call it Catology. I have three of them to reference from and they are
acting weird, so I predict based on Catology that something is up, don't know what for sure. I think we are going to have a major disaster involving
pollution because they keep knocking over garbage pails and running back and forth making strange noises. Or maybe the pails are representative of
buildings that are following over and the chasing indicates a war coming. No that's not it, it's a search for consciousness it deep dark places, at
the bottom of something and when we come back out, like coming out of a garbage pail, we'll be enlightened by the increase in light. BTW, I am
accepting $100 donations for my predictions today LOL.

I'm just funnin ya ;-) You're right, the astrologers if they are going to have any credibility (cough cough) had better get their collective heads
out of their asses and chase wisdom rather than money.

Man i dont get how you can have a scientific mind and completely misunderstand so much?

Don't you get it? Its environmental, the sun works cyclically, its affects affect how we think, it affects our enviornment, it affects when we choose
to sleep which affects the choices we make throughout the day and so and and so forth and this idea applys cosmically.

How can you NOT understand it i don't get it?

The position of the earth in relation to the sun of course effects the environment. The moon being a "close" body effects our tides. Mars, Venus,
Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, Uranus, Pluto are either too small or too far away to effect much of anything, unless their gravitational well
directs something nasty in the form of an asteroid towards us. The stars, the closest being the Alpha Centauri/Proximi pair at roughly 4.2 light
years, have such a negligible gravitational effect it means nothing. Lines drawn between stars by people to try and rationalize our place in the
universe also has no effect, they are just "our" markings, like lines drawn on a cave wall.

We are effected by large photon sources and bigass gravitational wells plus the occasional large X-Ray or Gamma Ray emission by a collapsing star. So
your point is....?

There is a system of divination by way of interpreting omens, such as the imaginary ones you mentioned. Or perhaps, not so imaginary. I feel like
there are different conversations going on on this thread. Lol.

The personality represents a variable in the equation. Its not a perfect science its an ongoing and it takes many many many years of study.

You have to take seriously the tracking of the cycles and bodies and their personalities and learn how to identify its influence individually in your
own life in order to really turn it into a science.

Astrology in its current form is not really how its suppose to be used. Its suppose to be for the initiate and the initiate is using astrology as a
course for self identification to further their purpose in alchemy.

Its essentially a part of a cleansing "ritual". It can also be used by sages for kingly like types as a predictive method but the sage would require
significant knowledge of the person its being used for and may require years of "courtship".

You're wrong about Jupiter at the very least. It's gravitational pull deflects asteroids from Earth's atmosphere. I would posit that the other
bodies also have some type of effect on Earth. At least a quantum effect, at least.

There is a system of divination by way of interpreting omens, such as the imaginary ones you mentioned. Or perhaps, not so imaginary. I feel like
there are different conversations going on on this thread. Lol.

No your right.

Lets stay on topic i apologize this isnt a thread defending astrology for those who lack understanding.

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