Why Alcohol Could Be More Dangerous Than Heroin http://www.businessinsider.com/alcohol-more-harmful-heroin-2012-7/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Sun, 02 Aug 2015 19:14:38 -0400Michael B Kelleyhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff6754aecad04be78000008Patrick DepFri, 06 Jul 2012 01:19:06 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff6754aecad04be78000008
Yes, and if we added all of them together then the score would be off the chart, which is utterly irrelevant in any case. This chart is meant to provide an objective assessment of the harms of particular drugs, e.g. What harm is caused by an individual using alcohol? What harm is caused by the use of cocaine? Heroin? LSD? It's entirely possible to consume all these drugs simultaneously. That doesn't mean one shouldn't bother to measure their effects individually.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff67503ecad04a178000001Patrick DepFri, 06 Jul 2012 01:17:55 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff67503ecad04a178000001
Yes, and if we added all of them together then the score would be off the chart, which is utterly irrelevant in any case. This chart is meant to provide an objective assessment of the harms of particular drugs, e.g. What harm is caused by an individual using alcohol? What harm is caused by the use of cocaine? Heroin? LSD? It's entirely possible to consume all these drugs simultaneously. That doesn't mean one shouldn't bother to measure their effects individually.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff6452669bedd294a000001CoCoThu, 05 Jul 2012 21:53:42 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff6452669bedd294a000001
Propaganda is the word for this report.If everything listed would be advertised the same way alcohol is,then the numbers would be the opposite.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff5b9b8ecad04dc24000016jrrobertsThu, 05 Jul 2012 11:58:48 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff5b9b8ecad04dc24000016
The "manipulation of human thought" by charts and statistics astounds me! If you want to classify the possible misuse of any mind altering drug to human pain measured in mostly dollars, you are in foul territory and not even on the field.
Alcohol is by far, in a volume and frequency metric, 1000's more times in use than the greater majority of drugs mentioned.
Alcohol is the only substance mentioned above that is used as a food preservative in the natural order. Alcohol continues and will continued to preserve food value with stored sugar; which it is; in combination with other unfermented sugars, proteins, fats, and a multiplicity of micro-nutrients. Beer is "bread in a glass". Wine is "bushels of fruits and vegetables in a barrel". Historically, no one would have ventured by boat across the Atlantic from Europe before the steam engine if were not for the "stored barrels of liquid energy drinks" on sailing vessels, because the water would go rancid in less than 30 days that was carried. It was a 2 month journey to North America from Europe.
Go get a real life and start producing something more useful to the recipients of your biased information. Alcohol is a "gift from God" for food to those who use it rightly; and it is not my fault that most american Indians and some Asians lack the necessary enzyme in the stomach to digest it. They suffer with a natural defect and must avoid it at all costs, because of the excess brain altering effects. I can also, from slamming a lot of water in a short amount of time, temporarily change my blood chemistry to result in getting a high. Drunkenness is a "sin of the soul" by whatever substance is chosen to achieve the effect.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff58d23ecad04c550000039segoviaThu, 05 Jul 2012 08:48:35 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff58d23ecad04c550000039
"Can't we all just get a bong?"http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff58578ecad043440000022JMRThu, 05 Jul 2012 08:15:52 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff58578ecad043440000022
Still two different drugs. If the justice system has two different rules for sentencing (crack sentences are worse) then they should be considered two drugs even if they are chemically the same.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff584db69beddb578000006TCThu, 05 Jul 2012 08:13:15 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff584db69beddb578000006
I wonder if they factor in the tens of thousands who die (15,000 in 2010 in Mexico alone) due to cartel-related warfare in places like Juarez, Mex due to prohibition of weed and ecstasy. Drugs, which countless authoritative studies have proven to be completely benign when compared to alcohol.
Great reporting on the warfare in Juarez by CBC: <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/passionateeyeshowcase/2010/mexicodrugwar/" target="_blank">http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/passionateeyeshowcase/2010/mexicodrugwar/</a>
According to this report, shockingly, the vast majority of revenue to these cartels come from the import of weed and ecstacy into the US (not heroin or coke, etc).
A legalization of ecstacy and weed would cripple these businesses, add billions in tax revenue, and prevent countless deaths both in South America (from reducing cartel violence) AND North America due to the controlled sale of clean, manufactured drugs to the public - rather than the bathtub concoctions the kids are doing now.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff56f2eeab8ea8a73000005BernardusThu, 05 Jul 2012 06:40:46 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff56f2eeab8ea8a73000005
Right... because being illegal totally guarantees good quality and no additives. Smart fellow.
It's a fact alcohol is pretty much the most harmful drug around. That doesn't mean you should be able to enjoy your glass of wine, but it does make our society hideously hypocritical.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff56e54eab8ea0f73000005Charles PonziThu, 05 Jul 2012 06:37:08 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff56e54eab8ea0f73000005
Why bailing out banks and printing money could be more dangerous than alcohol, heroin and unprotected sex.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff54d35ecad04fe5e000017GlennThu, 05 Jul 2012 04:15:49 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff54d35ecad04fe5e000017
No, you got it exactly wrong, this guy is a scientist who was paid by the british government to do a scientifically rigorous study of the effects of various drugs and when he refused to rig his findings to say what the government wanted him to say, was kicked out of his job. It's the exact opposite of 'politically motivated'http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff53609ecad045936000005Cyber royalsThu, 05 Jul 2012 02:36:57 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff53609ecad045936000005
Michael Kelley nice stuffhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff5357deab8eadd79000008privateThu, 05 Jul 2012 02:34:37 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff5357deab8eadd79000008
What most do not understand this chart is about money for judges, government and prison system industry. That alcohol could produce much bigger profits with heavier fines and longer jail and prison sentences as judges cannot make the profits by the district attorneys unless state legislatures change the felonies to reflect the statisics that alcohol needs to be more regulated with sentences by perhaps 10 times as long as current punishment suggest. Example in Italy DUI is one year mandatory prison sentence for first time offender if my old information is correct. This will reduce U.S. sales substantially and bar sales substantially if implemented causing a further slowdown in the economy prolonging this greater depression, as the foreign principals controlling the foreign United States consolidate power.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff4ea35eab8eae257000010New American DreamWed, 04 Jul 2012 21:13:25 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff4ea35eab8eae257000010
Given the recent outbreak of "bath salt" related incident, under which category does this fit?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff4b8f7eab8ea0576000005KCRobWed, 04 Jul 2012 17:43:19 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff4b8f7eab8ea0576000005
The Lancet article is behind a pay wall but frequency of use by how many people is relevant. More people use alcohol than use heroin. If the number of heroin users were the same as the number of alcohol users then we'd be in dire straits.
That said, I can drink a can of beer or a rum & Coke with no harmful effects on me or anyone else. A mainline shot of heroin or LSD would be another ballgame.
This is comparing apples to iron bridges.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff4b87f69bedd5432000007CatKinNYWed, 04 Jul 2012 17:41:19 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff4b87f69bedd5432000007
Actually, most people who try heroin do so only once. It produces such unpleasant gastrointestinal side effects in most pople that once is more than enough.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff4b1da6bb3f7946e00000fRockwellWed, 04 Jul 2012 17:12:58 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff4b1da6bb3f7946e00000f
Clearly not adjusted for frequency of use. I'm a sample size of one, but I drink several times a week with some moderate negative consequences - I can't imagine what kind of train wreck I'd be if I did ecstasy or coke on a daily basis.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff4a7e0eab8ea204c00001fbrainiacWed, 04 Jul 2012 16:30:24 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff4a7e0eab8ea204c00001f
Does this mean we can legalize drugs now?
It's most likely due to the fact that alcohol is more widely available than the other alternatives (in terms of price and legality).
If you could buy heroin at 7/11 for the price of a pack of gum, the numbers might change.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff49d20eab8ea7b3600000adouglas casselWed, 04 Jul 2012 15:44:32 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff49d20eab8ea7b3600000a
Notice that if you add the two cocaine types together, the problem is greater. In addition, both types of amphetamine, and cocaine are generally interchangeable for addicts.
If they were grouped properly, the article would have a much different conclusion.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff49ac36bb3f7c84b000012janchupWed, 04 Jul 2012 15:34:27 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff49ac36bb3f7c84b000012
Ahh, exactly to the point.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff49785eab8ea232f000003GregWed, 04 Jul 2012 15:20:37 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff49785eab8ea232f000003
Let me guess, some politically motivated advocacy bullshit that looks only at the raw number of incidents in a population, doesn't adjust for popularity/frequency of use in any meaningful way and additionally presumes that if the drug is present that there must be causality. Did I guess right? Do I win a beer?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff497086bb3f7cc42000010Internal InvestigationsWed, 04 Jul 2012 15:18:32 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff497086bb3f7cc42000010
Apparently huffing on a lighter is not that dangerous.
inhale it for a "cheap" highhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff495ca6bb3f78a41000022Butane?Wed, 04 Jul 2012 15:13:14 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff495ca6bb3f78a41000022
Butane?
Can somebody explain me?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff493a0ecad04a814000035Internal InvestigationsWed, 04 Jul 2012 15:04:00 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff493a0ecad04a814000035
This is VERY staggering considering every single drug is completely backwards as far as legality goes. The most legal drugs are also the most dangerous.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff4930feab8ea5222000013mike 123Wed, 04 Jul 2012 15:01:35 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff4930feab8ea5222000013
The score association was made to make alcohol look as bad as possible. Tobacco and Cocaine are neck and neck. The criminals and the justice systems biggest fear is the legalization of drugs. They would all be out of work.