Subject:Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:bchris02on08/15/13 at 8:04 pm

Who do you think had a more profound impact on music and pop culture in general? Eminem came on the scene in the late '90s and ushered in the rap era that dominated most of the '00s. Lady Gaga come on the scene in the late '00s and kicked rap out the back door and brought in electropop which is king to this day. Both scenes also have impacted pop culture far beyond music as well. Thoughts? Who was more impactful?

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:warpedon08/15/13 at 8:25 pm

I have to say that Gaga has more of a cultural impact that Eminem. I hear her name more often and people talk about her more than they did with Eminem. She's on TV more, I hear more water cooler talk from Gaga than I ever did with Eminem.

By the way, am not being biased coz I ain't a fan of either of them. I know I'm not scoring any points here and don't care, but I think both artists music is totally the shyts and I can't listen to more than 10 seconds of any of their songs without feeling tortured. That's just me.

In conclusion: Impact of Gaga > Impact of Eminem.

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:whistledogon08/15/13 at 8:26 pm

Eminem is old news. Is he still around? Sure. Does he still have hits? Sure. Does everyone listen to rap music? No.

Lady Gaga performs dance pop. the songs are catchy, and they are still everywhere. Does the average person like a catchy song they can dance and sing to? Yes.

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Eminem is old news. Is he still around? Sure. Does he still have hits? Sure. Does everyone listen to rap music? No.

Lady Gaga performs dance pop. the songs are catchy, and they are still everywhere. Does the average person like a catchy song they can dance and sing to? Yes.

Lady Gaga for the win!

Of course today Lady Gaga is more popular. She is everywhere. However, I am comparing Lady Gaga today with Eminem during the height of his popularity which was probably the 2000-04 timeframe. Also, rap was very popular with teens and twentysomethings in the early 2000s. It's not so much with that same demographic today, but electropop is their preferred genre.

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:80sfanon08/16/13 at 12:47 pm

Eminem's 2000 The Marshall Mather LP sold 10 million copies in America alone, and his Eminem show sold 10 million copies in the USA alone also. Those are some huge album sales.

He was HUGE from 2000 to 2004. His breakout was 1999 though. I'd say his 'time' was 1999 to 2005.

BUT worldwide I'm not sure if he was as popular as in the US. Lady Gaga is huge worldwide.

In America, I'd say they are both equal during their 'hey day' (although Gaga's time might still be here). Worldwide though I'd say Gaga dominates.

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:Jeffon08/16/13 at 8:20 pm

It takes at least 10 years or so to truly know what kind of legacy someone will leave so Eminem wins by default.

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:snozberrieson08/16/13 at 10:11 pm

It takes at least 10 years or so to truly know what kind of legacy someone will leave so Eminem wins by default.

If you were a member I'd karma you for this.

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:bchris02on08/19/13 at 8:15 am

It takes at least 10 years or so to truly know what kind of legacy someone will leave so Eminem wins by default.

I think an educated guess can be made though. Eminem brought hip-hop to white suburbia, a place where previously it had been common to hear teens say "I hate the rap crap." Likewise, Lady Gaga brought EDM from being pretty much a gay genre to the dominant genre in pop music and also removed a lot of the stigma against homosexuality.

Both changed music and the culture of their time in a significant way. In terms of effect on culture, I would say Lady Gaga has been bigger. The hip-hop inspired clothing and style was already on its way out of the mainstream in the early '00s when Eminem became popular.

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:Venomous Maskon08/19/13 at 10:52 am

At the height of his popularity, Eminem was treated almost like a living god. Lady Gaga is pretty popular right now, but she in no way comes close to how big Eminem was. And Eminem is an absolutely amazing lyricist. Gaga doesn't tough him in that regard. And then there's of course sales.

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:snozberrieson08/19/13 at 11:07 am

At the height of his popularity, Eminem was treated almost like a living god. Lady Gaga is pretty popular right now, but she in no way comes close to how big Eminem was. And Eminem is an absolutely amazing lyricist. Gaga doesn't tough him in that regard. And then there's of course sales.

THIS!!! and THAT! O0

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:Jeffon08/19/13 at 3:06 pm

The hip-hop inspired clothing and style was already on its way out of the mainstream in the early '00s when Eminem became popular.

My Name Is was released in 1999 and reached number two in the UK Singles chart. So I'd say that he was already popular before 2000.

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:Jeffon08/19/13 at 3:08 pm

My Name Is was released in 1999 and reached number two in the UK Singles chart. So I'd say that he was already popular before 2000.

To add to my comment, the 1999 album was number two on the US Billboard 200. You do't make it to number two if you aren't already popular.

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:whistledogon08/19/13 at 6:33 pm

To add to my comment, the 1999 album was number two on the US Billboard 200. You do't make it to number two if you aren't already popular.

See, if you were a registered member, you could edit your reply instead of quoting yourself. And because you quoted yourself, it looks like you are talking to yourself. And when you talk to yourself, people think you're crazy, and when you're crazy, they haul you away in a straight jacket and when they haul you away in a straight jacket, they lock you in a padded room, and when they lock you in a padded room, you're never seen again. Don't never be seen again. Register for an account at inthe00s.com

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:snozberrieson08/19/13 at 6:48 pm

See, if you were a registered member, you could edit your reply instead of quoting yourself. And because you quoted yourself, it looks like you are talking to yourself. And when you talk to yourself, people think you're crazy, and when you're crazy, they haul you away in a straight jacket and when they haul you away in a straight jacket, they lock you in a padded room, and when they lock you in a padded room, you're never seen again. Don't never be seen again. Register for an account at inthe00s.com

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:snozberrieson08/19/13 at 10:00 pm

DirecTV

even better...

i'm embarrassed I didn't remember that... :-[

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:Howardon08/20/13 at 6:38 am

See, if you were a registered member, you could edit your reply instead of quoting yourself. And because you quoted yourself, it looks like you are talking to yourself. And when you talk to yourself, people think you're crazy, and when you're crazy, they haul you away in a straight jacket and when they haul you away in a straight jacket, they lock you in a padded room, and when they lock you in a padded room, you're never seen again. Don't never be seen again. Register for an account at inthe00s.com

I think he will eventually... one day. ;D

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:Howardon08/20/13 at 6:39 am

and Lady Gaga has never appeared in a film before. Eminem has.

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:whistledogon08/20/13 at 5:26 pm

and Lady Gaga has never appeared in a film before. Eminem has.

She is in Machete Kills which comes out this October and also had a cameo role in Men in Black 3

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:Howardon08/20/13 at 6:24 pm

She is in Machete Kills which comes out this October and also had a cameo role in Men in Black 3

Ok, I guess I rest my case.

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:snozberrieson08/21/13 at 1:13 am

Ok, I guess I rest my case.

That's not what that means Howard. ;D

She is in Machete Kills which comes out this October and also had a cameo role in Men in Black 3

Hopefully she's the target and the machete doesn't miss :D

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:80sfanon08/22/13 at 2:38 pm

She is in Machete Kills which comes out this October and also had a cameo role in Men in Black 3

Did Lady Gaga play the alien? :-X

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:Mushroomon08/22/13 at 4:49 pm

But Eminem does not have a Weird Al Video about him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss_BmTGv43M

And yea, I know "Couch Potato" was based upon one of his songs, but he refused permission for the music video as well as the single release and most have forgotten that song already (he said he thought it would hurt his career).

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:Howardon08/23/13 at 7:19 am

But Eminem does not have a Weird Al Video about him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss_BmTGv43M

And yea, I know "Couch Potato" was based upon one of his songs, but he refused permission for the music video as well as the single release and most have forgotten that song already (he said he thought it would hurt his career).

OMG!!! ;D

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:Mushroomon08/23/13 at 10:35 am

OMG!!! ;D

One thing that has long been recognized, is that Weird Al has long had his finger on the pop culture pulse of this country. And his career has gone on long after many of those he lampoons have been forgotten.

So call this a "Weird Al Index", much like the "Big Mac Index" for economics. If he lampoons them, they have made it. If he makes a video of them, then they have really made it.

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:snozberrieson08/23/13 at 10:51 am

One thing that has long been recognized, is that Weird Al has long had his finger on the pop culture pulse of this country. And his career has gone on long after many of those he lampoons have been forgotten.

So call this a "Weird Al Index", much like the "Big Mac Index" for economics. If he lampoons them, they have made it. If he makes a video of them, then they have really made it.

He made a parody of eminem's song but wasn't given permission to do a video. You tube weird al couch potato. Look for the video of al "interviewing' eminem. I'ma say that counts as a video lampoon :D

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:Howardon08/23/13 at 12:59 pm

One thing that has long been recognized, is that Weird Al has long had his finger on the pop culture pulse of this country. And his career has gone on long after many of those he lampoons have been forgotten.

So call this a "Weird Al Index", much like the "Big Mac Index" for economics. If he lampoons them, they have made it. If he makes a video of them, then they have really made it.

What hasn't he lampooned?

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:Mushroomon08/23/13 at 1:18 pm

What hasn't he lampooned?

Prince.

Of course, he did try and was turned down, but he says he will keep trying until Prince develops a sense of humor.

And there are many who are "flash in the pan" groups who come and go so fast it really does not matter. He did include a few lines from Hanson in one of his Polka Medleys and even directed one of their music videos.

But it is really hard to find something that he has not at least touched upon, having hit everybody and everything from Disco, iron lungs and George Michael to We Are The World and Bart Simpson.

And yea, I did mention Couch Potato. But how many remember that anymore? The Perform This Way video still gets airplay even 2 years later, where as Eminem is still trying to write his masterpiece. Already over 2 years late, if he keeps it up this may be the Chinese Democracy of the 2020's.

And sorry, I have to admit I am much more likely to listen to Eminem, but I think Miss Gaga is much more original when it comes to music. I have yet to hear an Eminem song that is not simply a dumbed down sample of an old hit by somebody else.

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:Howardon08/24/13 at 7:05 am

Of course, he did try and was turned down, but he says he will keep trying until Prince develops a sense of humor.

Hope he keeps trying, one day he'll catch Prince's sense of humor.

Subject:Re: Eminem vs Lady Gaga

Written By:80sfanon08/24/13 at 7:11 am

I wouldn't count on Prince to have too much of a sense of humor. Some people are just serious, that's just the way they are.

Plus, Prince is known for being difficult sometimes, so that speaks about how flexible his personality is.

I can't say I'd have much in common with him as a person or would talk to him in real life, but his music is divine.