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Hockey: Russia faces punishment for lack of respect to Canada

Russia’s players shake hands with Canada’s player during the victory ceremony of the Ice Hockey World Championship final game at the O2 arena in Prague, Czech Republic May 17, 2015. REUTERS/DAVID W CERNY

Russia will be sanctioned after their players showed a lack of respect to Canada following a 6-1 loss in the final of the world championships in Prague, the International Ice Hockey Federation (IIHF) said on Monday.

Most of Russia’s players left the ice straight after Sunday’s defeat and headed for the dressing rooms without waiting for the national anthem of Canada to be played, which goes against the etiquette of the sport.

“Once we arrive back home after the world championships we will look into this question and we will get in touch with those in charge at the Russian Ice Hockey Federation,” IIHF president Rene Fasel said in the statement to the TASS news agency.

“The IIHF has its own protocol and some sort of punishment will be handed down”…

Once you realize that much of Russian society functions under social rules that look like they were written by a 9-year-old, it all makes sense.
Look back to the excuses and reasoning they would typically give during communism.
You will notice that at no time was the Soviet Union beaten fair and square, there was always some reason (sometimes sinister) that the Russians/Soviets were bested, but it was never because they were playing against anyone better than them.

Frances

Americans tend to think that was as well: if they don’t win, the other side cheated. Look at their attitude during the softwood lumber dispute with Canada and (mainly) B. C.

Drunk_by_Noon

Not even close Francis.
What are you, Russian?

Frances

No, but grew up in area where were many Russians. Just ask the people of BC about that dispute and how it hurt many rural communities.

dance…dancetotheradio

Hurt my Dad, too.
He was a lumber trader.
Sorry DbN but the softwood lumber dispute was a case of crap American wood being protected by politicians against imports of a clearly superior product.
Google softwood lumber and Jimmy Carter.
By the way, bad example to contrast Canadians and Americans.

Drunk_by_Noon

Once more, maybe someone can give me an explanation.
So America’s the bad guy for protecting American jobs, in America, and that related to hockey or general Russian attitudes toward the success of others… how?
Do you think there are no Canadian tariffs against any American imports?
I can’t even build a computer server and mail it to Canada without someone getting whacked with about a 25% tax (GST + whatever).

dance…dancetotheradio

We have a Free Trade Agreement.
In my town that meant the sugar beet producers got whacked.
And the Sugar Beet Factory closed down.
I didn’t mind that.
The sugar beet farmers used crappy trucks and I used to have to drive over their fallen produce every fall.
Don’t miss them at all.
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Interesting story.
When the Sugar Beet Factory closed down, the union had a bunch of money left over that they had to spend so they had a party at the banquet place I worked at.
In three hours they drank so much booze that we had to say sorry there’s nothing left and they went home before nine.

Drunk_by_Noon

There was something seriously wrong with the local sugar beet industry.

Even if you are not selling sugar or sugar beets outright, there is so much value added stuff that you can do with sugar that it’s almost a bulletproof industry.
Hell, you can make almost anything from animal feed, plastics, fertilizer, explosives, booze, ethanol, to God know what else with sugar.
It’s one of the most versatile crops in existance.

dance…dancetotheradio

There was a union there.
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Fort Garry was built on it.
That was my playground when I was a kid.
We used to explore the ruins of the transients camp.
And my buddies would shoot gophers and field mice.

Drunk_by_Noon

Unions might explain some of it, but even they have to be smart enough to know that without the “Job”, there is no “Union”.

dance…dancetotheradio

They did until there wasn’t.
I knew a guy in high school thirty years ago who got a summer job making thirteen bucks an hour to take samples of the sugar as it reduced.
We were working in restaurants making less than four.

mauser 98

Canadian standard of living would collapse today without US next door.

…lots of whiners up here

Drunk_by_Noon

USA! USA! USA!
🙂

It’s sometimes like the reverse of the Southpark song “Blame Canada” but they are not kidding; they really do believe it.
I wonder where they picked up that third-world-habit of blaming the United States for everything that goes wrong?
It’s as if Venezuela speaks through them.
I blame Pierre Trudeau, but I’m sure it existed before he came along, he just made it popular.

mauser 98

?been going on all my life?
yup,, they bitch then head to Buffalo to shop, then off to Florida and bitch some more about the dollar too low/too high

Frau Katze

Usually just leftist idiots ramble on about the U.S. Not sure how it got started here. I’m puzzled.

mauser 98

Toronto media,, Trudeau cheerleaders

Alain

It seems to me that much of this is based on confusion. There is not doubt that being a world super power tends to breed a certain arrogance and a tendency to bully the weaker player. I think this is what people are referring to considering how at times Canada has been bullied by the American administration or other American agencies. I agree with them on this when it comes to certain trade issues, but I fail to see how this automatically translates into being anti-American and hating the American people. I also have no doubt that were Canada a world power, we most likely would have been just as bad. And yet that would not mean that all Canadians are bad or bullies. We need to be able to accept that criticism of a national government does not translate into hating the people of the same nation, whatever the nation is. That said I am well aware that the Canadian Left tends to be anti-American in a knee jerk way unless it happens to be Americans who are also leftists or anti-American. Note the difference in the treatment and view of Reagan and Obama. These neo-marxists are enemies wherever they reside of liberty and freedom.

mauser 98

if the US wanted to screw Canada, US customs officials would take a few extra coffee breaks per shift.that’s all that would be required.
trucks would be lined up for miles trying to cross border. layoff notices in a few days. happened about 15 years ago at Peace Bridge, Buffalo & Niagara Falls . it was a mess.
some in US would be hurt, by far most up here.

Drunk_by_Noon

And although I have NO desire for such a thing to happen, it almost feels like the nonsense Mexico says.
We buy electricity from both Canada and Mexico, and we pay a fair and going market rate for that electricity, and so everyone is happy to sell to the Americans.

Because that rate is far in excess of what the Mexican utilities charge their customers (because of Mexican government subsidies and price controls), whenever we need/want to buy from them, and if that is in excess of their capacity, they just turn off the power to their own Mexican customers, and then to deflect the blame for their own mismanagement, they vociferously take to the press to denounce the Yankee gringos for stealing the electricity of the poor Mexican people.
The Mexican border I would seal, for a few years straight, just to watch that country implode.

Same game, different uniforms.

mauser 98

US buys our electricity for less than it costs us to produce in some cases… insane politician syndrome.
US buys Mexican electricity because Bama has shut down many US coal fueled plants due to global warming. Texas for example. Mexico coal fuel different?

our deranged maniac dyke premier will turn us into Bangladesh shortly. US need not nod her head.

Drunk_by_Noon

I’m sure that Mexican coal burns much cleaner than American coal!

mauser 98

to heat 60 year old boilers
, while Texas has some of latest clean scrubbing generators

Drunk_by_Noon

Yeah, but the Mexican people and their culture are beautiful!

Drunk_by_Noon

I bet you we aren’t buying at below market rates, unless you are getting something traded back in return to you at below market rates.

Frau Katze

You’re right about the electricity. One year BC Hydro made a fortune selling electricity to California. They made so much they cut a cheque to all their customers.

This how I see US/Canada trade. You win some, you lose some but it seems to even out.

mauser 98

OK… Ontario hydro rates set to skyrocket… will stop global warming

Alain

That doesn’t fly. Crossing from Canada is not without a lot of hassel most of the time while the border with Mexico might as well not exist. This I know from personal experience when driving my wife across to fly out of Bellingham, WA to visit one of our sons who lives in California. It has become so bad that I prefer we pay a bit more to fly out of BC instead.

mauser 98

it has gotten worse re Patriot Act which has never found a terrorist.. backed up trucks for a mile or two could mean jobs if dragged out.
happened where i worked . product could not get out re border slowdown. down goes manufacturing.. out you go.

Drunk_by_Noon

The Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush II Administrations each found that Canadian lumber producers receive massive subsidies. Former President Carter noted:

“Provincial governments grant an annual allowable cut to sawmill owners at whatever low price is necessary to maintain full employment in the timber industry …{this} is beginning to wreak havoc with the timber industry in the United States….” (Jimmy Carter letter to The New York Times 3/24/01)
For a summary of the U.S.-Canada Lumber Trade Dispute, see A Brief History – 1982 to Present.

I did exactly what you said and that was the number one search engine return!

If they are wrong, then give me a better source. Do I hold you to the same standards and say that you cannot use any Canadian sources?

The big question seems to be: was the Canadian government subsidizing and then “dumping” lumber onto the U.S. Markets at a cost that was lower than the cost of production and the Canadian producers were making up for it with Canadian government subsidies?

dance…dancetotheradio

Yeah, well, to tell you the truth I don’t know much about it, either.
I only know that my Dad was a lumber trader.
And that at that time there was a big shake out over the Free Trade Agreement vis a vis subsidies or the appearance of them in law.
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Drunk_by_Noon

Yeah, my knowledge on the subject is about the same as yours.
99% of what I now know (or think I know) I learned in the last 20-minutes.

Sorry about your dad, but I don’t think this was an instance of America being “a bag of dicks” on an issue.
Also, how was the lumber inferior?
Is there something about the 49th parallel that makes wood better?
All of the Pacific Northwest, after you remove the artificial borders, is pretty much one big forrest. What I’m saying is that I think it’s all pretty much the same wood.

dance…dancetotheradio

It wasn’t about the Pacific Northwest.
It was about Carter trying to protect the market for the bag of sticks he was selling out of Georgia.
My Dad used to buy from the guys who died in the lumber mill on Mount St. Helens.

Minicapt

The crux of the matter is that the Canadian industry was not being ruled by the same rules that controlled the US industry. And the fact that Canada had not implemented the same rule book that the US DoC had created, was conclusive evidence that the Canadian Lumber Industry was intent on destroying the US industry. At one point, the suggested solution was for Canada Customs to apply an excise on shipments crossing the border, which would raise their price to match the US ‘price’, and the money collected would be forwarded to a US agency which would compensate distressed US lumber farmers, in Georgia.

They had to rush back to their locker room to drown in self pity with their vodka!

ontario john

In other Russian sports news, we heard of course that Putin won eight goals in a hockey match, but it is now reported that after the game he went to a hospital and cured twenty people of cancer. What a guy.