Comments on: Is America’s House Divided Again?http://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/is-americas-house-divided-again/ AmmoLand Shooting Sports NewsFri, 09 Dec 2016 14:56:42 +0000hourly1https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6.1By: Mark Curranhttp://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/is-americas-house-divided-again/#comment-1555621 Fri, 17 Apr 2015 13:07:36 +0000http://ammoland.com/?p=106075#comment-1555621Lincoln not only said the Civil War was about slavery, he wrote it down, gave the note about that to the Vice President of the Confederacy, Alexander Stephens, Keeping the Union together, as you will see, was the only way to stop the spread of slavery.

Tearing the Union apart, as you will see, was the only way to spread slavery.

Stephens went to see Lincoln just before the Civil War started – to give Lincoln the Five Ultimatums,. Do you know about Stephens trip to DC just after he became VP of the Confederacy?

Of course you don’t.

Do you know about the Southern War Ultimatums he carried with him, five ultimatums, each one about the same thing — the spread of slavery.

These war ultimatums were not a secret — in fact Richmond newspapers headlines were about the war ultimatums, the headline read “THE TRUE ISSUE”.

Do you know what the true issue was, according to Southern newspapers at the time?

The spread of slavery into Kansas and the west.

No one was surprised in the slightest — this was the issue for at least 10 years already. New York papers reprinted the South’s war ultimatums, and suggested Lincoln obey them. Let them spread slavery into Kansas and the West.

But Lincoln could not, would not, and was not even given the chance to allow the spread of slavery in Kansas in the West — the Southern states seceded before he got to DC, and the killing was already going oo in Kansass, led by US Senator Davis Rice Atchison.

Do you know who David Rice Atchison is? US Senator, who got Kansas Act passed for “voting rights” for Kansas whites, who then immediately left for Kansas, and started terrorizing and killing to stop anyone from voting against slavery. You should read Atchison speech bragged he was killing to spread slavery “for the entire South” and would spread slavery all the way to the Pacific Ocean He didn’t admit it, he boasted of it.

Just like the Richmond headlines did not admit the spread of slavery was their war ultimatm, they boasted of it.

Until they lost. After the war, the exact same folks who previously bragged they were killing to spread slaveyr, the exact same editors who boasted before, were silent about their previous war ultimatums. Not one word.

Their children, and grandchildren, would write glorious histories about that time, claiming their fathers and grandfathers were for states rights. No one hated states rights more than the Southern leaders, when Kansas rejected slavery. They did not just send killers to Kansas to force slavery down their throats, when that did not work, they issued war ultimatums. When that did not work, the started a civil war.

When that did not worked, like the cowards they always were, they then pretended they were for state’srights all along.

Only, their own newspapers, their own documents, their own books at the time, still existed. Never mind, lets just hope people are so stupid they wont notice.

Lincoln’s House Divided SPeech was about the killngs in Kansas. Did you know that? About how Atchison (Lincoln does not use his name, but that is who he was talking about() got the Kansas Act passed, it was part of a plan to spread slavery into Kansas and the West. Exactly what Atchison, and others, admitted to at the time.

The Dred Scott decision — which came about to justify Atchison’s killings in Kansas ( Atchison met resistance in Kansas and needed legal back up, after the fact, which Dred Scott essentially was). was another part of the plan to spread slavery, said Lincoln. Lincoln called in “machinery” set in motion for one purpose, to spread slavery, and spread it against the will of the people.

House Divided speech was Lincoln’s polite way of exposing what everyone already knew – the South was spreading slavery all through the US. By the “logic” of Dred Scott, no one could stop slavery from spreading. Blacks were declared not persons, but property. And the Dred Scott decision specifically ordered the federal government to protect those “property rights” in slaves. Blacks were “so inferior” said the court nine times in that decision, that no white man could reasonably believe God gave them inalienable rights.

By ordering – yes the Dred Scott court ordered — that blacks be seen as property, and ordered the federal government to protect that property (read the decision if you don’t believe me) the machinery, started by Kansas Act (a child of David Rice Atchison himself ) made it impossible to reject slavery, even by vote of the people.

Kansas people proved that — they voted 90% against slavery — to which Jefferson Davis replied, that a majority of the people did not rule, and never did rule. I bet you know that Davis quote — quite famous — he was talking about the Kansas votes against slavery.

In fact Jefferson Davis in his own book, wrote that the resistance to the spread of slavery into Kansas was the “intolerable grievance”. Did you know that, or not? And Davis specifically and at length claimed the Dred Scott decision gave the South the right to spread slavery there. Davis was boasting of exactly the machinery Lincoln spoke about — LIncoln condemned it, Davis boasted of it.

So learn what was going on, when Lincoln have his House Divided Speech.

So when LIncoln wrote that famous three sentence to Greeley — in 1862 — he was saying artfully, what he had said so many times before. Either slavery would spread or the Union would stand. Keeping the Union together meant the South could not force slavery — by killing or otherwise . One had to go. One had to stay.

Slavery was a cancer, Lincoln said, to top that cancer, you stop the spread, and the cancer dies.

Again, Southern leaders agreed with Lincoln, but in a different set of words — stop the spread of slavery and you end the white race, said Robert Toombs. Just stopping the spread of slavery is like “burning us to death slowly” said the Southern Declaration of Causes, in Florida.

]]>By: Kimberwarrior45http://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/is-americas-house-divided-again/#comment-78791 Sun, 27 Jan 2013 03:59:38 +0000http://ammoland.com/?p=106075#comment-78791Please explain “The American system grants considerable power to the president…”. Exactly what considerable power does the Constitution grant to the President on internal matters? If you read the Constitution it limits the President’s power on internal matters. The “federal government” has taken power by ignoring the Constitution. ]]>By: DaveGinOlyhttp://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/is-americas-house-divided-again/#comment-78749 Sat, 26 Jan 2013 19:23:36 +0000http://ammoland.com/?p=106075#comment-78749The problem with federalism is that it provides a top-down, one-size-fits-all solution to all problems. Fifty nominally sovereign states, each working on their own problems (no matter whether their systems function under capitalist or socialist ideals) would provide fifty sets of economic and social experiments. Their results could be analyzed and the “best practices” of each state could be applied in those states that wished to adopt those practices to their own situations. This would result in continuous evolution and improvement; a constant cycle of action, analysis, and adoption of best practices over time.

The problem with a federal, top-down solution is that if it’s wrong and doesn’t work, we’re all screwed. Because it can never provide a best solution, tailored for the needs of individual states, the probability of it providing correct solutions is practically nil.

“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying all the wrong remedies.” Groucho Marx