It's mounted with the American defense recon. I put a new stock on it since it was last sighted in and since killing two deer with it. Pretty sure I had new stock on when I killed last one so I'm not sure how I got lucky and pulled down 5 mil and still connected....

This scope has been frustrating. The first time I couldn't get sighted in...come to find out scope was moving. I had it tightened to lowest recommended torque. I increased to highest recommended torque and put the taboo dab of loctite on ring bolts.

Each deer shot had weird experiences but I won't go into it here but that led me to check zero again....off high by 5mil. The aggravating zero stop wouldn't let me adjust so I just used reticle to find delta...100yds btw.

I tend to use LaRue, Talley, Badger Ordnance, and Warne. Recently picked up an SS mount all of these have been reliable. I have had some good and bad experience with Leupold and Burris mounts and Armalite. I have friends who swear by BOBRO and AADLAND mounts both of which are considered very good choices. Generally speaking the mount is the most suspect part of a system.I think either of these would be a good choice or a La Rue LT107 if the scope is 34mm tube. http://swfa.com/mounts-rings-and-bases/bobro-dual-lever-precision-optic-34mm-mount-1.html

http://swfa.com/mounts-rings-and-bases/aadland-ar-34mm-scope-mount.html If it's 30 mm tube that opens up a lot more options but I still like AADLAND if you dont need quick detach and BOBRO or LaRue if you want quick detach. I will note that Badger Ordanace ultra high rings are too heavy for words so not recommended due to weight of the steel rings the alloy ones ok.

Obviously something is off because 5 mil is a lot. Any chance the knobs could have been bumped and be off due to that ? You just have to systematically check the scope, the mount, the rifle. I know its a huge pain but eventually you will figure out what works. I picked up this package deal with a SS mount and a 2-7 redfield for one rifle and for the price you cant beat it for a way to test the rifle. http://swfa.com/optics/browse/riflescopes/redfield-2-7x33-revolution-rifle-scope-kit.html

Edited by Urimaginaryfrnd - January/01/2017 at 15:27

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If you have the equipment to test the alignment of the scope by all means please do especially if you use a two piece base. In the process you will find the answer to your lapping question. I have never had to lap Warne or Talley, others slightly to moderate.

Whether it would make a difference in scope performance I don't know, when you really torque scope rings down you just don't know what happens to the internal moving parts of a rifle scope. Perhaps I'm being redundant however, much less torque is needed than many in the shooting populous assume.Wf

American defense recon is a one piece mount. I would not lap it. If u are already having slipping pronlems lapping will just make them even bigger and out of round as it always takes more off the bottom than the top simply because of gravity.

Its unlikely they would be out of alignment. But anything is possible. I am pretty sure lapping would void the warranty. If u think it is a mount problem i would call AD. I bet they would work with you to give you assistance.

Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack.

And I have several AD Recon mounts, just took one off a gun and looked, I don't see the pin you are talking about.

Finally, if a piece fell off your mount, I would discontinue use of the mount. Mechanical devices of a good design usually do not have superfluous parts; if something is gone, that would indicate some manner of loss of function.

I have several AD mounts and several gen2 razors, something sounds very wrong, and I am guessing it has something to do with the mount and your missing piece.

American defense recon is a one piece mount. I would not lap it. If u are already having slipping pronlems lapping will just make them even bigger and out of round as it always takes more off the bottom than the top simply because of gravity.

Its unlikely they would be out of alignment. But anything is possible. I am pretty sure lapping would void the warranty. If u think it is a mount problem i would call AD. I bet they would work with you to give you assistance.

I agree, I'm not an advocate, lap only if you must. However, I test every time I mount for reasons stated above. In many years I've never had an issue lapping the rings, gravitation shouldn't a problem if turned judiciously.

As ST73 states its best to use a one piece mount.

Also torque is your friend only to a point, then, after the sweet spot it becomes an enemy of both you and the scope.

I don't know if it's still moving. The shot placement on the deer were suspect. I really just shot it enough to find out how bad it was out of position and quit since I didn't have tools for zero stop.

No that was Monday and adm said the pin would do that. I sent it to them today. Not real happy but don't want to spend 200+ on a new one. I requested a new one. I hope they don't just sick a pin in it and send it back.

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