The ACMB should be using our honorary ranked people to open doors and then go for the kill. I’m pretty certain having Carol V turn up at Easy Jet in uniform with some cadets in tow for a few choice phrases and photos, would have been a good in. But it needs someone with a bit in initiative and not just anxious to up their FB and Twit count.

“Both valid points and a big part of the argument for for units wanting to use BGA clubs…yet HQRAFAC still says no…go figure!”

So is this HQRAFAC, or higher up the CoC. If it’s at the HQRAFAC level, what is their motivation or is it just a power trip thing and an unwillingness to think of alternatives or would that make them have to deal with the issue. It is far easier to say no than do the work.

You are mixing up RAFAC with the CFC, which are related but not the same.
There may be nothing higher in the path of appeals for CFC holders, but the re-branding of RAFAC is a symptom of us being the RAF’s bitch in many ways and the RAF becoming publicly ineffectual and needing to absorb us to a greater extent.

That was for the change in the status of those in uniform which removed the ability to redress grievence higher than HQAC previously a redress could be taken as high as the Sovereign, after going through the Air Council.

The AoC RAFAC must be responsible to someone in the RAF CoC.

incubus:

There may be nothing higher in the path of appeals for CFC holders, but the re-branding of RAFAC is a symptom of us being the RAF’s bitch in many ways and the RAF becoming publicly ineffectual and needing to absorb us to a greater extent.

With the way RAFAC are acting with slowly closing down open squadrons and embracing the CCF including a budget uplift from the DoE and a five year contract with a perceived move from the inner cities to the suburbs (the nice areas) with little trouble. Look at the map above.

[quote=“Teflon, post:11, topic:4006”]The shameful aspect of having people like Carol V is they don’t get used[/quote]you missed Sir Chris Hoy in that…

Chris who? You only see him when it’s the Olympics for cycling, other than that he does a better job than David McCallum as the invisible man.
I never understood getting him as a hon Gp Capt when he only gets media exposure every 4 years and with increasing irrelevance to our membership. He might get rolled out for comment given the news to run down Bradley Wiggins and Chris Froome.
We seem to get people whose profile is on the backslide.
May be our next ambassadors should be those running social media sites or some fatuous celebrity from one of the many crap Saturday night programmes.

What workload? The occasional grip and grin?
He wasn’t competing when he took this on.

CV might be a better fit as we are forced into becoming more gender aware purely for the sake of having more women around. However she isn’t getting used to push and promote us with many commercial companies that could benefit us, such as in the example of this thread. Shoving them into grip and grins for cadet presentations, parades and other internal promotion is not using them to their best. Like it or not celebrity and sex sells so let’s use it, be that men or women who may be regarded as visually appealing. Unfortunately this doesn’t really apply to female RAF Officers.

the re-branding of RAFAC is a symptom of us being the RAF’s bitch in many ways and the RAF becoming publicly ineffectual and needing to absorb us to a greater extent.

It is funny how many ordinary staff in the ATC see this as the case and all the while those on substantial salaries living the RAF dream don’t admit (for obvious reasons don’t want to queer their pitch) it we won’t evolve and give the cadets the experience they really deserve.

If they do it privately nothing can stop them, the fact the MOD/RAF/ACO is so anti AIR cadets flying (or doing anything come to that) is a matter for their conscience.
Although I would imagine those blocking cadets flying using commercial/private providers, don’t have a conscience.