Plagiarist Joe Biden to Press: “Fact Check Me!”

Vice President Biden: “I Say To The Press, Fact Check Me!” BIDEN: “What they’re proposing, and this is a fact, I say to the press, fact-check-me!” (Vice President Joe Biden, Remarks, Zanesville, OH, 9/8/12)

Vice President Biden Claimed That Republicans Were Behind The Demise Of The Simpson-Bowles Debt Commission, A Hypocritical Charge Fact Checkers Have Called “Strange”:

Vice President Biden Claimed Republicans Were Behind The Demise Of Simpson-Bowles. BIDEN: “They rejected every single attempt to reduce the debt put forward by us, by outside groups and by that bipartisan commission they keep talking about.” (Vice President Joe Biden, Remarks, Zanesville, OH, 9/8/12)

The Associated Press: President Obama Walked Away From The Simpson-Bowles Recommendation, Which “Ensured The Tough Compromises Would Not Get Made.” “In another instance, Obama appointed a bipartisan group, known as the Simpsons-Bowles Commission, to recommend ways to fix major fiscal problems like Social Security and Medicare. The commission issued its recommendations but fell three votes short of formally endorsing them. And Obama mostly walked away from the report. He later incorporated some of the less contentious proposals from the report into legislation he supported. But that ensured the tough compromises would not get made.” (Matt Apuzzo and Tom Raum, “FACT CHECK: Clinton Claims Of Compromise A Stretch,” The Associated Press, 9/6/12)

· The Associated Press: “The Notion That Republicans Are The Only Ones Standing In The Way Of Compromise Is Inaccurate.” (Matt Apuzzo and Tom Raum, “FACT CHECK: Clinton Claims Of Compromise A Stretch,” The Associated Press, 9/6/12)

CBS News: Obama Did Not Embrace Simpson-Bowles, So It’s “Strange” Biden Decided To Reference It. “But Mr. Obama did not embrace the plan either, which is why it’s strange that Biden decided to make a point of referencing it. It’s true there was never an official final report – thanks in part to Ryan – but the White House certainly did not make the case for the panel’s recommendations.” (Leigh Ann Caldwell, Lindsey Boerma, Stephanie Condon, Lucy Madison, Paula Reid, Brian Montopoli, and Steve Chaggaris, “Fact-Checking Obama, Biden Convention Speeches,” CBS News, 9/7/12)

ABC: “[T]he White House Failed To Embrace” Simpson-Bowles. “This is an incredible line from the Vice President about the ‘Simpson-Bowles Commission’ considering that the White House failed to embrace it.”(Jake Tapper, “Simpson Bowles Again,” ABC News’s “Political Punch,” 9/6/12)

Vice President Biden Claimed That Mitt Romney’s Tax Plan Will Lead To Jobs Being Created Overseas, Though Fact Checks Have Pointed Out It Encourages Investment In The United States, And Is Supported By The President’s Export Council:

Vice President Biden Claimed Mitt Romney’s Tax Plan Will Create Jobs Overseas. BIDEN: “I wish Governor Romney would tell you about his new tax proposal. No, no he’s got a new tax proposal. It’s got a fancy name in economic terms, it’s called a territorial tax. Let me translate what a territorial tax is. Any company that goes abroad, invests and makes a profit, will never have to pay a single, solitary penny of taxes on that profit to the United States. That changes the law. No, I’m serious. And guess what? It will create jobs. Experts point out it will create 800,000 jobs in China, in Indonesia, in Mexico.” (Vice President Joe Biden, Remarks, Zanesville, OH, 9/8/12)

ABC: A “Number” Of Obama Advisers, “Including Members Of The President’s Export Council,” Support The Plan. “VP Biden railed against Romney backing a territorial tax system. But a number of advisers to the president support the idea as well – including members of the President’s Export Council, the commission the president set up to recommend ways to reduce the deficit, and members of his Council on Jobs and Competitiveness.” (Jake Tapper, “That Horrible Territorial Tax System Biden Railed Against,” ABC News’ “Political Punch,” 9/6/12)

The Associated Press: “Romney’s Proposal Is Actually Aimed At Encouraging Investment In The U.S., Not Overseas.” “Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s proposal is actually aimed at encouraging investment in the U.S., not overseas.” (Calvin Woodward and Tom Raum, “FACT CHECK: Obama And The Phantom Peace Dividend,” The Associated Press, 9/7/12)

Bloomberg: “Study Doesn’t Say That No Jobs Would Be Created In The U.S.” “U.S. companies maintain that a territorial tax system would make them more competitive in foreign markets, creating more jobs in research and administration that are often located in the U.S. Clausing’s study doesn’t say that no jobs would be created in the U.S. Instead, it says that a pure territorial tax plan would increase employment by U.S. companies in low-tax countries.” (“Biden Overstates Impact Of Romney’s Tax Plan: Reality Check,” Bloomberg News, 9/6/12)

The Washington Post: Biden Cited A Study That “Did Not Actually Study Romney’s Plan.”“The study cited by Biden, which appeared in Tax Notes, did not actually study Romney’s plan. Moreover, it said that such a system would create 800,000 jobs overseas, but not necessarily at the expense of U.S. jobs if unemployment rates are low.”(Glenn Kessler, “Fact Checking Obama’s And Biden’s Speeches At The Democratic Convention In Charlotte,”The Washington Post’s“The Fact Checker,” 9/7/12)

CBS: According To The Tax Foundation, The 800,000 Jobs Created Overseas Is Not Misplacement Of American Jobs; And The Study Does Not Take Into Account That Romney Supports Lowering The Corporate Tax Rate. “The Tax Foundation, an organization that backs a territorial tax, argues that the 800,000 jobs created overseas is not misplacement of American jobs. The organization also notes that the study does not take into account that Romney supports lowering the corporate tax rate to 25 percent from 35 percent. It also argues that it doesn’t take into account the ‘job-importing impacts’ of the elimination of the repatriation tax.” (Leigh Ann Caldwell, Lindsey Boerma, Stephanie Condon, Lucy Madison, Paula Reid, Brian Montopoli, and Steve Chaggaris, “Fact-Checking Obama, Biden Convention Speeches,” CBS News, 9/7/12)

Vice President Biden Claimed Mitt Romney Shipped Jobs Overseas. BIDEN: “Governor Romney, the man whose company he ran was referred to by the Washington Post was a pioneer in outsourcing.” (Vice President Joe Biden, Remarks, Zanesville, OH, 9/8/12)

FactCheck.org: “We Found No Evidence To Support The Claim That Romney — While He Was Still Running Bain Capital — Shipped American Jobs Overseas.” “But after reviewing numerous corporate filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, contemporary news accounts, company histories and press releases, and the evidence offered by both the Obama and Romney campaigns, we found no evidence to support the claim that Romney — while he was still running Bain Capital — shipped American jobs overseas.” (Robert Farley and Eugene Kiely, “Obama’s ‘Outsourcer’ Overreach,” FactCheck.org, 6/29/12)

· FactCheck.org: “The Post Story Did Not Reveal, To Use The Obama Campaign’s Term, That Romney Relocated U.S. Jobs To Foreign Countries.” (Robert Farley and Eugene Kiely, “Obama’s ‘Outsourcer’ Overreach,” FactCheck.org, 6/29/12)

The Washington Post:“There Is Little In The Post Article That Backs Up The Obama Campaign’s Spin.” “Yet the campaign clearly seized on this report because their interpretation fit with a long-term “outsourcing” attack they have waged against Romney. One of their outsourcing ads before the article ran, in fact, earned Four Pinocchios. These new ads would not fare much better; there is little in the Post article that backs up the Obama campaign’s spin.” (Glenn Kessler, “Obama’s New Attacks On Romney And Outsourcing,” The Washington Post, 7/2/12)

The Washington Post: “On Just About Every Level, This Ad Is Misleading, Unfair And Untrue.” “The Obama campaign fails to make its case. On just about every level, this ad is misleading, unfair and untrue, from the use of ‘corporate raider’ to its examples of alleged outsourcing. Simply repeating the same debunked claims won’t make them any more correct.” (Glenn Kessler, “4 Pinocchios For Obama’s Newest Anti-Romney Ad,” The Washington Post, 6/21/12)

Vice President Biden Claimed The Romney-Ryan Medicare Plan Will Not Preserve Medicare, Which Fact Checkers Have Called “Misleading”:

Vice President Biden Claimed Mitt Romney’s Medicare Plan Will Increase Costs For Traditional Medicare, Calling It “Vouchercare.” BIDEN: “And the most important thing they did not tell you. They’re not actually preserving Medicare. They’re for a whole new plan, vouchercare. And here’s how it works, I’m not making this up. They’re going to give your mom or your dad when they become eligible, or even though they are. They’re going to give them a voucher, which is essentially a coupon, saying to your mom: ‘Mom, go out there in that insurance market and bargain for the best deal you can get, including if you want to buy Medicare. But if it costs more than the benefits you’re now getting, they say ‘Ma, you know, go borrow it or something.’ No, I’m serious, you’re going to take it out of your pocket. That’s not fair and that’s not truthful.” (Vice President Joe Biden, Remarks, Zanesville, OH, 9/8/12)

FactCheck.org: Vice President Bidens’s Claim Is “Misleading,” As “Those 55 And Over Would Still Get Medicare, And Those Under 55 Could Opt For Traditional Medicare.” “Biden’s claim that ‘they’re not for preserving Medicare at all,’ is also misleading. Under the Romney/Ryan plan, those 55 and older would remain in traditional Medicare. For those currently under 55, the Romney-Ryan plan would institute a new premium-support plan beginning with new beneficiaries in 2023. Seniors would pick from private plans, or could choose traditional Medicare, all of which would be offered on a new Medicare exchange. So, those 55 and over would still get Medicare, and those under 55 could opt for traditional Medicare.” (“FactChecking Obama And Biden,” FactCheck.org , 9/7/12)

Vice President Biden Claimed The Romney-Ryan Medicare Plan Will Bankrupt The Program, Which Fact Checkers Have Called “Wrong”:

Vice President Biden Claimed Mitt Romney’s Tax Plan Will Bankrupt Medicare. BIDEN: “What they’re proposing will actually cost the Medicare Trustee that pays the benefits when you go to the hospital, or the doctor, etc. to run out of money by 2016. That’s when we hit the wall.” (Vice President Joe Biden, Remarks, Zanesville, OH, 9/8/12)

The Washington Post’s Fact Checker: “This Is Wrong.” “This is wrong. There are different parts of Medicare, much of which is paid from general revenues and premiums. Part A, which pays hospitals, has a ‘trust fund,’ made up of special-issue Treasury bonds, that always seems to be on the edge of running dry.” (Glen Kessler, “Biden wrong on Ryan’s Medicare plan,” The Washington Post’s “The Fact Checker,” 9/6/12)

CBS: “The Romney-Ryan Plan That Would Be Enacted Instead Would Not ‘Immediately’ Do Anything To Anyone.” “But the Romney-Ryan plan that would be enacted instead would not ‘immediately’ do anything to anyone. While it would dramatically reshape the way the program’s benefits are attained for future retirees when it goes into effect in 2022, the plan wouldn’t touch seniors already on Medicare, or those 55 to 65 years old.” (Leigh Ann Caldwell, Lindsey Boerma, Stephanie Condon, Lucy Madison, Paula Reid, Brian Montopoli, and Steve Chaggaris, “Fact-Checking Obama, Biden Convention Speeches,” CBS News, 9/7/12)

[The Obama campaign complains that we got a key fact wrong in our June 29 article, “Obama’s ‘Outsourcer’ Overreach.” We strongly disagree. We find the Obama campaign’s evidence to be weak or non-existent, and contrary to statements Romney has made on official disclosure forms under pain of federal prosecution.

The Obama complaint claims we erred in saying Mitt Romney gave up active management of Bain Capital in early 1999 to run the 2002 Winter Olympics, insisting we were then wrong in saying Romney was not responsible for shipping U.S. jobs overseas.

In fact, if the Obama campaign were correct, Romney would be guilty of a federal felony by certifying on federal financial disclosure forms that he left active management of Bain Capital in February 1999.

And after reviewing evidence cited by the Obama campaign, we reaffirm our conclusion that Romney left the helm of Bain Capital when he took a leave of absence in 1999 to run the Salt Lake City Organizing Committee for the 2002 Winter Olympics – as he has said repeatedly — and never returned to active management. The Obama campaign’s recent ads thus mislead when they point to investments made by Bain, as well as management decisions made by companies in which Bain invested, after that time.

The Obama campaign’s objections are contained in a six-page letter sent to us (and — without notice to us — to other news organizations as well). It cobbles together selective news snippets and irrelevant securities documents in an attempt to show that Romney was still running Bain Capital on a part-time basis while he was also running the Olympics committee.

In a nutshell, the Obama campaign is all wet on this point.]

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Romney 2002 Olympics salary = $0

Romney Governor of MA salary = $0

Romney pay for returning to save Bain = $1.00

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Joanne

The entire left are a bunch of liars. I guess they figure all their idiot followers will believe them no matter what – and I guess they are right.

http://www.opaobie.com/ Opaobie

Biden acts like Bart Simpson, “I Didn’t Do It, Nobody Saw Me Do It, There’s No Way You Can Prove Anything!”

Oliver

if Romney loses, it will because he’s an honest man. Apparently the more you lie, the better you do in the polls.

I also find it interesting that no one mentioned the hypocrisy of a man (Biden) who gives almost nothing to charity, railing on and on about how we all have a responsibility to look after one other. Huh?

http://www.opaobie.com/ Opaobie

The only “skin” Biden ever put in the game is his lying tongue.

Patty

First I apologize to bg, if you have reported this; President Obama boasted that his plan would cut the deficit by $4 trillion over 10 years, citing “independent experts.” But one such analyst called a key element of the plan a “gimmick.” Vice President Biden quoted GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney as saying “it’s not worth moving heaven and earth” to catch Osama bin Laden. Actually, Romney said he’d target more than just “one person.” The president said U.S. automakers are “back on top of the world.” Nope. GM has slipped back to No. 2 and is headed for third place in global sales this year, behind Toyota and Volkswagen. Biden said “the experts” concluded Romney’s corporate tax plan would create 800,000 jobs in other countries. One expert said that. She also said the number depends on the details, and foreign jobs could grow without costing U.S. jobs. Obama quoted Romney as saying it was “tragic” to “end the war in Iraq.” What Romney was criticizing was the pace of Obama’s troop withdrawal, not ending a war. Biden claimed Romney “believes it’s OK to raise taxes on middle classes by $2,000.” Romney actually promises to lower middle-class taxes. Biden said Romney and running mate Paul Ryan “are not for preserving Medicare at all.” Actually, the plan they endorse would offer traditional Medicare as one option among many. Obama said his tax plan would restore “the same rate we had when Bill Clinton was president” for upper-income taxpayers. Not quite. New taxes to finance the health care law also kick in next year, further burdening those same taxpayers.

BG, Are those facts… I had not heard those before but love it if so.. I think there are so many stories of Romney’s true character as opposed to Obama’s selfish narcistic ways.

Romney had to return to Bain to save it ????

I need to research things more on that front

Patty

Fact!

OT but great article LAST PART OF THIS ARTICLE READ MORE

Inside story of Obama’s struggle to keep Congress from controlling outcome of debt ceiling crisis

So, Obama said, they had to break the Republicans on this. Otherwise, they would be back whenever it suited them politically.

They were out of options, Geithner said. The only one might be accepting the House bill, loathsome as it might be. “The 2008 financial crisis will be seen as a minor blip if we default,” he said.

The president said, “The Republicans are forcing the risk of a default on us. I can’t stop them from doing that. We can have the fight now, or we can have the fight later on, but the fight is coming to us.”

So, no, Obama said, he was not going to cave. Period. He said good night, got up and left. He was very agitated.

Geithner thought there was one other consideration. He did not mention it to anyone, not even the president, but he had thought about it a great deal. It was not just that Obama faced an economic choice or a political choice. He faced a moral choice.

The president should not put himself in the position of saying unequivocally that he would veto, Geithner concluded, for one simple reason: No one could be sure how to put the American or the global economy back together again. The impact would be calamitous.

“And the people who would bear the pain of that would be the people less prepared,” Geithner told others, “less able to absorb that cost. It would be something you could not cure. It is not something you can come back and say, a week later, ‘Oh, we fixed it.’ It would be indelible, incurable. It would last for generations.”

Obama never had to confront the veto question. A few days later, House Republicans dropped their insistence on the two-step plan. The final plan accepted a debt limit increase that would take the country through the 2012 presidential contest. It also postponed $2.4 trillion in spending cuts until early 2013.

The long-term deficit crisis had not been solved, but merely put off, leaving the United States at the edge of the fiscal cliff, where it remains today.

I would rather we check for truths than lies….. it will take much less time and space… Biden’s lips are moving…he is lying or saying something stupid.

richray

How many times has Obama said that Romney wants to take the country back to the policies that got us into the mess we’re in? How vague is that? Why won’t someone ask our beloved leader what those policies are? I don’t remember anyone telling us exactly what happened only that it was all Bush’s fault…

http://theironscroll.blogspot.com Towering Barbarian

My first response on hearing Biden’s challenge was “… And look at just how well that sort of challenge worked out for Gary Hart!”. I really have to wonder just how many kisses of death a campaign can give itself before they make their own defeat completely cheatproof? @_@

Limousine Barry

Joe Bozo may be and Idiot but he is my Idiot!

Go ahead and fact check him! You may find that he could surpass me on lie meter.

I know Joe blows. But, he did play the race card. “They are going’ in to put you black people back in chains.” Fact check that! I am sure you will be surprised.

If you like the way I play the race card then vote for me! And, this is important. Send me $30,999.99 before midnight! My campaign is going bust! Good day.

mg4us

Never Bet Against the American People. . Never! So why have Obama and Biden done that. . with Obamacare passed in the dark of night using kickbacks DESPITE AMERICANS SAYING NO with Obama & Reid refusing to work with 2010 Congress DESPITE AMERICANS Giving them A LANDSLIDE With No Jobs DESPITE STIMULUS with QE1 & QE2 With record High gas prices soon to rise to over $5/gal DESPITE Americans wanting Canadian Pipeline

The Democrat Party of JFK, Robert Kennedy & Tip O’Neil is no more . . . Teddy was a leftist loon and nothing like his brothers. . he was a Loser. Clinton was also a loser, a manipulative, triangulating, Womanizing Loser

Then there is Barack Hussein Obama mmm mmmm mmmmm The most Leftist and Radical of them all. . .(see 2016: Obama’s America)

No wonder there are few Blue Dog Democrats left No wonder there is no room for Joe Sixpack and other hard working Blue Collar White Males No Wonder the DNC is a freakshow of Sluts, Abortionists, Welfare junkies, and Commies

Don’t believe the poles. . . Don’t believe MSM. . .DemocRATs are demoralized after a downer of a speech So Demoralized that 15 min after Obama’s speech, over 80% of venue was vacated The RATs are jumping ship. . .

Need to shine a light on these RATs and roaches.

They are the Party that divides and spew envy and contempt They are the Party of reckless spending They are the Party of Dependency and BIG Government

Time for some R&R from this Obamanation Time for real Leaders to Lead and Restore & Renew America Time for Romney/Ryan

after all NEVER BET AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. . .NEVER!!!!

Kissmygrits

Be careful what you wish for, Joe. Just because you’re not a multimillionaire like the rest of the ‘rats doesn’t mean you’re not a crook. Just a stupid crook.