Pentagon Estimates 250,000 US Dead In A North Korean War

China, by all accounts is already moving troops and machinery to the border of NK with all of the rhetoric that is going on. It would not surprise me
if they keep building up in a means to kind of make both sides back down.

From there:
4488 total US servicepersons killed since 3-19-03.
4347 of those have been killed after 'mission accomplished'.

Until mission accomplished was declared, 141 died, and all of those were not combat deaths.

so, there are different ways of looking at things. I am sure that the the DoD touted the 141 number when 'Mission Accomplished' was declared.

That simply proves the point. The Pentagon estimated there would be 5,000 US dead in the Iraq War and the actual number was higher. Some people are
arguing the Pentagon estimates are purposefully made way higher than what they would be on purpose.

That's obviously not true. Remember, the Pentagon now does NOT count the dead in the MEDIA numbers that die in a helicopter or in a hospital. They
ONLY count those dead on the ground in the media numbers. In previous wars they didn't count it that way.

When the Pentagon is doing internal estimates for numbers of dead.........they are counting all dead, not just the ones that died on the ground, but
also the ones that died in transport and in the hospital.

So yeah, the 5,000 number estimated for Iraq was exceedingly LOWER than the actual total. Which is totally in contrast to what some here are
trying to claim.

I dont believe it. Atleast that many SK civilians though, after Soeul gets pounded for a week straight because its so close to the border but I doubt
US would even deploy much more than the 30k they already have there..

For those who think the US will runover North Korea... remember we are only a few weeks away until the 10th aniversary of this great moment...

People just LOVE to belabor this point. They keep forgetting that the WAR part (toppling the leadership regime) took only about two weeks. It was the
POLICE actions later, that took time and lives. In NK, it might take three weeks to take out Un and leaders, due to bunkers...but yeah, if we then get
stuck trying to POLICE there, then we see more casualties.

SK would love to police there after a NK fall. If we do fight, we should leave as soon as we win (in the conventional sense) and let NK handle the
rebuild and re-unification.

From there:
4488 total US servicepersons killed since 3-19-03.
4347 of those have been killed after 'mission accomplished'.

Until mission accomplished was declared, 141 died, and all of those were not combat deaths.

so, there are different ways of looking at things. I am sure that the the DoD touted the 141 number when 'Mission Accomplished' was declared.

That simply proves the point. The Pentagon estimated there would be 5,000 US dead in the Iraq War and the actual number was higher. Some people are
arguing the Pentagon estimates are purposefully made way higher than what they would be on purpose.

From there:
4488 total US servicepersons killed since 3-19-03.
4347 of those have been killed after 'mission accomplished'.

Until mission accomplished was declared, 141 died, and all of those were not combat deaths.

so, there are different ways of looking at things. I am sure that the the DoD touted the 141 number when 'Mission Accomplished' was declared.

That simply proves the point. The Pentagon estimated there would be 5,000 US dead in the Iraq War and the actual number was higher. Some people are
arguing the Pentagon estimates are purposefully made way higher than what they would be on purpose.

I am saying the internal Pentagon death estimates are for ALL dead. The MEDIA estimates, the ones you quote, only are those dead on the ground. That
does not include any dead that died in transport from the battle field, or that died after they were transported from the battle field.

Oh.

Would you give me a link to these real numbers that you speak of?
Without these real numbers, I can't do much.

Sure, if they fight the war wrong. and put that many American soldiers in harms way for no reason. America could destroy NK without ever putting a
boot on the ground, and without using nukes. This war will probably be fought like Iraq... bomb here, build a school there.. convert people to Jesus
over here... drop the sandwiches and chips over there... etc. I hate war, and I can say that having done 6 combat deployments back when I was a
brainwashed imperialist pawn... also known as a Neo-Con Republican, but I have grown wiser and seen our military industrial complex for what it is,
but I digress. The way our policy makers and military leadership go about fighting wars is wrong. The purpose of war is to win. the purpose is to
neutralize a threat. Not to bring so called "democracy". Not to give women the right to vote. The problem is that we don't fight wars... we
nation build. I really do hope that no war comes of the NK situation, and since NK has nothing to do with the Petro-Dollar I suspect that there
won't be any war with them, but you never know.

Thought it might be interesting to some. Sometimes looking at what happened the last time is the best way to understand what we could face again on a
second time around. Features stories from veterans of the Korean War:

Some stats, courtesy of the U.S. Army. Note that Korean War casualties include killed, wounded, missing, or captured:
www.history.army.mil...

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