The first thing you need to know is it is within your power to stop the continual accumulation of our national debt.You do not need to “petition congress” or “wait for the next election” and hope things change, because they won’t. Sadly, it doesn’t matter who gets elected. Republican or Democrat, they are all on the same team with the same master. The Federal Reserve.We can get mad, wave signs and banners in the streets, even cry for revolution… It won’t change a thing.It’s difficult to discuss this subject without sounding like a “conspiracy theorist”. In fact it’s not a theory, and everything I’m going to point out is actually in US Law. Starting with the Federal Reserve Act. It is in fact within the power of congress to repeal the Federal Reserve Act, but they will never do it.One only has to look at how Ron Paul was mocked and marginalized during his presidential run to get an understanding of how embedded the Federal Reserve is in our political system. It is not a “wild conspiracy” and there is no greater evidence of that than the current events we see today.So how does this work? There are two types of currency in circulation. US Notes, and Federal Reserve Notes.Lawful Money = United States Notes; Not “Federal Reserve Notes”Title 12 USC §411 : [link to www.law.cornell.edu] Read:“Federal reserve notes, to be issued at the discretion of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System for the purpose of making advances to Federal reserve banks through the Federal reserve agents as hereinafter set forth and for no other purpose, are authorized. The said notes shall be obligations of the United States and shall be receivable by all national and member banks and Federal reserve banks and for all taxes, customs, and other public dues. They shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand at the Treasury Department of the United States, in the city of Washington, District of Columbia, or at any Federal Reserve bank. “(emphasis mine)This proves that “Lawful Money” and “Legal Tender” are not the same.All that is required is a restricted endorsement on the back of any check to the effect of:Redeemed in Lawful moneyPursuant to Title 12 USC §411True name dba Legal nameI have a red ink stamp. Your true name is your first and middle, your “legal name” is “FIRST LAST”. Look at your drivers license. Wonder why your name is in ALL CAPS? Same on your birth certificate. Same on any notice from a court. That’s your legal name, a trust formed by the government in order to do business with you and on you.Make copies of all your checks (front and back) with your restricted endorsement. Keep them on file, or even better, file them in a case jacket at your nearest district court. This is what all the IRS will be required to see. Lawful money is not taxable income. You have not endorsed private credit, you have not bonded your substance to the contract with the Federal Reserve.Those who demand lawful money rather than engage in signature endorsed contract with the FED, in their own right and by the operation of law found at §16 of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 now codified at Title 12 U.S.C. §411 which is binding law upon the IRS, and any other United States claiming entity, to accept and recognize the non-taxable nature of lawful money of exchange.That makes the bank unable to fractionally lend against your signature which serves as bond against the future interest and party to the national debt. This is what essentially reduces the people of the the United States to chattel.When you sign or “endorse” your check you are bonding your substance behind fractional lending or “elastic currency”. ONLY THEN is the elastic currency “as good as” Lawful Money. But it is not Lawful Money.You are “opting out” of the federal reserve system. The United States currently has 300 Million dollars of US notes in reserve. The stopped printing them because obviously they don’t want anyone using them.You’ll remember what they look like. Take out a dollar bill, at the top on the “face” you’ll see “Federal Reserve Note” As clearly seen at the top of this page.US Notes look almost the same, but the serial numbers are in red instead of green, the seal is in red, and the top says: “United States Note”. US Notes are the only currency that is recognized as “Lawful Money”, not just “legal tender”. (Fed Notes)This law remains in full force and effect today. There is a video (long but worth it) DETAILING it here: [link to stormthunder.com] This is why “Constitutional” arguments cannot be brought. It is contract law. Every one of us has agreed by signature.Our government was hijacked by a group of international bankers in 1913 that understood this.The Federal Reserve is a private corporation. Corporations have owners. The government of the United States borrows it’s own money, from this private corporation, pay interest on it, and collects that interest through it’s (the Federal Reserve) arm the I.R.S. The national debt is nothing more than the interest owed on the loans our government has received from this corporation for it’s own money.To put it plainly and in the interest of brevity, If the Fed ended tomorrow, our debt would be gone. That’s oversimplified, yes but it’s not complicated.Proof: There is only one President in history that has ever paid off the national debt. Andrew Jackson. How did he do it? He took back control of our own currency. He stopped the bank. Debt stopped accumulating, and we were able to pay all outstanding debts before his term ended. Conspiracy “wako”? No. It has happened before. >Look it up.That wiki article is just tip of the iceberg but worth pointing out is the mention of the use of class warfare and it’s central theme in the discussion:“The classic statement by Arthur Schlesinger was that the partisan politics during the Jacksonian period was grounded in class conflict. Viewed through the lens of party elite discourse, Schlesinger saw inter-party conflict as a clash between wealthy Whigs and working class Democrats&#148;(Grynaviski).President Andrew Jackson strongly opposed the renewal of its charter, and built his platform for the election of 1832 around doing away with the Second Bank of the United States. Jackson’s political target was Nicholas Biddle, financier, politician, and president of the Bank of the United States.Apart from a general hostility to banking and the belief that specie (gold and/or silver) was the only true money, Jackson’s reasons for opposing the renewal of the charter revolved around his belief that bestowing power and responsibility upon a single bank was the cause of inflation and other perceived evils.“Other perceived evils” indeed. Jackson understood as did many others that with this kind of fiat currency in place and not under the control of the United States we would soon become a nation of slaves to a debt that we could never repay.Interesting that Wikipedia mentions that he was a slave owner in the first paragraph, but it isn’t until the bottom of the page that there is a small blurb that he was the first and only President to ever pay off the national debt. Immediately followed by “However, this accomplishment was short lived. A severe depression from 1837 to 1844 caused a tenfold increase in national debt within its first year.”I could go into how the war of 1812 and the depression following Jackson’s term were both caused directly by the international bankers to renew there charter in the first case, and re institute their charter in the second, but that is not the focus of this discussion. You are encouraged to read up on it yourself. As are you encouraged to read up on all of this yourself.What I’m giving you is not conjecture. There are many that are doing this now, and have been for some 2 years. Many of the “tax arguments” in existence today have focused on the wrong things. “Constitutionality” and “Supreme Court” case law, it’s been right there in the Act the whole time.Make no mistake, as the video on the homepage points out, it’s all about the exact “verbiage” that you use. If you get it wrong, you are in violation of your agreement with the Fed. By contract you have agreed to bond your substance for their credit. That’s what it means when they have said “income tax is voluntary”.Did your parents ever explain why you are supposed to endorse the backs of your checks? I betting no. It’s something we are simply conditioned to do. We are never taught that our signatures are “worth” something.

Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul

If you tired of paying taxes to banks that aren't even owned by US companies. Of seeing you tax dollars used for illegal wars. End the FED. Its easy all you have to do is go to any FED bank with your FED note and demand legal US tender which they are obligated to give you. If they refuse, you are no longer obligated to pay taxes. Watch the vids folks. Its easy to understand and do. Now is the time. rken

Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul

As his vision slowly cleared, the traveler came to the startling realization that he had been sitting by the side of the road, repeatedly hitting himself in the head with his walking staff. He had in fact been doing this for a quarter of a century.

Shaking his head at his own folly, he dusted himself off, set his gaze upon the road up the mountain and once more set off upon his journey.

"Demand and record your demand for lawful money and there is nothing to bring charges for.

"Federal reserve notes, to be issued at the discretion of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System for the purpose of making advances to Federal reserve banks through the Federal reserve agents as hereinafter set forth and for no other purpose, are authorized. The said notes shall be obligations of the United States and shall be receivable by all national and member banks and Federal reserve banks and for all taxes, customs, and other public dues. They shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand at the Treasury Department of the United States, in the city of Washington, District of Columbia, or at any Federal Reserve bank."

From: [link to www.law.cornell.edu]

It is their law, after all. What can they do if you have demanded and redeemed your Federal Reserve Credit for lawful money?

There nothing they can do and you will never get in front of a Judge or a Jury, because the remedy is in the law."

Both United States Notes and Federal Reserve Notes are parts of our national currency and both are legal tender. They circulate as money in the same way. However, the issuing authority for them comes from different statutes. United States Notes were redeemable in gold until 1933, when the United States abandoned the gold standard. Since then, both currencies have served essentially the same purpose, and have had the same value. Because United States Notes serve no function that is not already adequately served by Federal Reserve Notes, their issuance was discontinued, and none have been placed in to circulation since January 21, 1971."

Federal Reserve notes are, UPON DEMAND, lawful money. The banks now do all of the exchanging and crediting of accounts being redeemed in lawful money in house.

They will not give you US Bank notes, they cannot, it is against the law for them to deal in them.

Nor will they accept deposits of Gold coins for the same reason.

IT IS YOUR DEMAND THAT MAKES THE TRANSITION from Federal Reserve Credit/debt to LAWFUL MONEY because you act as one of the PEOPLE when you do it, not as a US Corporate US Citizen.

Both United States Notes and Federal Reserve Notes are parts of our national currency and both are legal tender. They circulate as money in the same way. However, the issuing authority for them comes from different statutes. United States Notes were redeemable in gold until 1933, when the United States abandoned the gold standard. Since then, both currencies have served essentially the same purpose, and have had the same value. Because United States Notes serve no function that is not already adequately served by Federal Reserve Notes, their issuance was discontinued, and none have been placed in to circulation since January 21, 1971."

Federal Reserve notes are, UPON DEMAND, lawful money. The banks now do all of the exchanging and crediting of accounts being redeemed in lawful money in house.

They will not give you US Bank notes, they cannot, it is against the law for them to deal in them.

Nor will they accept deposits of Gold coins for the same reason.

IT IS YOUR DEMAND THAT MAKES THE TRANSITION from Federal Reserve Credit/debt to LAWFUL MONEY because you act as one of the PEOPLE when you do it, not as a US Corporate US Citizen.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 692708

So what you are saying is that we can go to our banks and tell them we want our account to be in US Bank notes. If not can you explain further rken

Both United States Notes and Federal Reserve Notes are parts of our national currency and both are legal tender. They circulate as money in the same way. However, the issuing authority for them comes from different statutes. United States Notes were redeemable in gold until 1933, when the United States abandoned the gold standard. Since then, both currencies have served essentially the same purpose, and have had the same value. Because United States Notes serve no function that is not already adequately served by Federal Reserve Notes, their issuance was discontinued, and none have been placed in to circulation since January 21, 1971."

Federal Reserve notes are, UPON DEMAND, lawful money. The banks now do all of the exchanging and crediting of accounts being redeemed in lawful money in house.

They will not give you US Bank notes, they cannot, it is against the law for them to deal in them.

Nor will they accept deposits of Gold coins for the same reason.

IT IS YOUR DEMAND THAT MAKES THE TRANSITION from Federal Reserve Credit/debt to LAWFUL MONEY because you act as one of the PEOPLE when you do it, not as a US Corporate US Citizen.

So what you are saying is that we can go to our banks and tell them we want our account to be in US Bank notes. If not can you explain further rken

Quoting: rken

You sign all of your deposit slips and checks like this:

"Deposit for credit on account or exchange for non-negotiable Federal Reserve Notes of face value."

By: Your signature DBA ALL CAPS NAME

Most people just get a stamp made (without the signature, of course and stamp the checks and deposit slips. The bank calls them "restricted endorsements".

The banks will not like this, because they cannot fractional-ise the deposit amount. But that is all in house and has nothing to do with your demand.

Some people keep a copy of all checks and deposits or the bank will sometimes send them back. ATMS now give a copy of the check, front and back, so you can keep that as your record.

Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul

How does one go about demanding lawful money (rather than federal reserve notes)?

How to deal with the problem of direct deposit (since no actual deposit slip is used)?

How does one prove their FRNs were converted to lawful money, thereby exempting the income tax?

If one converts ALL their income for a year to lawful money, do they simply not file a 1040 or is there a form or forms they can file in lieu of the 1040 to be sure the IRS isn't going to come after them years later?

Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul

In short, the TAXABLE EVENT is your signature on any deposit.

When you restrict your signature, you do not give a blanket approval to the Federal Reserve Bank to steal from you.

You do not need to tell the bank or anyone else what you are doing, I have done this in banks all over the States, most will give you no problems, if they try, request, in writing, they contact their legal department.

You will have no issues after that phone call is made, that has been the result in the past for everyone who has done it.

Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul

In short, the TAXABLE EVENT is your signature on any deposit.

When you restrict your signature, you do not give a blanket approval to the Federal Reserve Bank to steal from you.

You do not need to tell the bank or anyone else what you are doing, I have done this in banks all over the States, most will give you no problems, if they try, request, in writing, they contact their legal department.

You will have no issues after that phone call is made, that has been the result in the past for everyone who has done it.

Credit unions also.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 692708

So you are restricting your signature by writing in the words

Deposit for credit on account or exchange for non-negotiable Federal Reserve Notes of face value."

Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul

How does one go about demanding lawful money (rather than federal reserve notes)?

How to deal with the problem of direct deposit (since no actual deposit slip is used)?

How does one prove their FRNs were converted to lawful money, thereby exempting the income tax?

If one converts ALL their income for a year to lawful money, do they simply not file a 1040 or is there a form or forms they can file in lieu of the 1040 to be sure the IRS isn't going to come after them years later?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1100445

People have been doing this since 1933 (actually, this has been an issue since the civil war), most of the time, they would just exchange the FRNs for US Bank Notes, but that changed in 1977.

Now, the FRN serves as US Bank notes and the Bank does an accounting of all Lawful money transactions.

As for the IRS, one could file for a full refund or, after a year of redeeming lawful money, do a ZERO withholding on the employers W-4.

Then, when you file a 1040, you simply have ZERO taxable income, but you must redeem lawful money for a full year before doing that.

The IRS has the right to contact you and you must provide your proof that you have been redeeming lawful money with your demands.

As for direct deposit, change your signature card as directed above, or send a notarized letter to your bank that all withdrawals or deposits on account XXXXXX-XXXXXXare for credit on account or exchanged for lawful money in the form of Non-negotiable Federal Reserve Notes of face value.

"Do not use their product, demand lawful money of the united States at your bank in the form of redeemed Federal Reserve Notes and you do not owe them a fee.

NOTICE: FRNs serve as lawful money UPON DEMAND, the bank will not give you any other kind of money (US Bank Notes, Gold or silver Certificates or stamps or uS Postal money orders, so do not ask) many have tried.

Since the late 1970s, the banks do not circulate US Bank notes (with red seals and serial numbers) Federal reserve notes serve just fine, once the demand is recorded on all deposits and withdrawals, its all the proof you will need.

Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul

How does one go about demanding lawful money (rather than federal reserve notes)?

How to deal with the problem of direct deposit (since no actual deposit slip is used)?

How does one prove their FRNs were converted to lawful money, thereby exempting the income tax?

If one converts ALL their income for a year to lawful money, do they simply not file a 1040 or is there a form or forms they can file in lieu of the 1040 to be sure the IRS isn't going to come after them years later?

People have been doing this since 1933 (actually, this has been an issue since the civil war), most of the time, they would just exchange the FRNs for US Bank Notes, but that changed in 1977.

Now, the FRN serves as US Bank notes and the Bank does an accounting of all Lawful money transactions.

As for the IRS, one could file for a full refund or, after a year of redeeming lawful money, do a ZERO withholding on the employers W-4.

Then, when you file a 1040, you simply have ZERO taxable income, but you must redeem lawful money for a full year before doing that.

The IRS has the right to contact you and you must provide your proof that you have been redeeming lawful money with your demands.

As for direct deposit, change your signature card as directed above, or send a notarized letter to your bank that all withdrawals or deposits on account XXXXXX-XXXXXXare for credit on account or exchanged for lawful money in the form of Non-negotiable Federal Reserve Notes of face value.

Send it Registered mail to your bank.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 692708

Thank You! I've been looking into this for some time. I had a bit of a rough time with the IRS and want to be free of them, but I thought it wise to be square with them before starting this tactic. As of this years 1040, I'll be square. I want to start doing this immediately, but because of my past issues with the IRS, I definitely want to be sure I have recourse if and when they come after me again. I think I'll make a trip to my local IRS office and ask some questions about this technique. I will bookmark this thread and post whatever info (if any) I'm able to glean from the evil bastards.

Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul

How does one go about demanding lawful money (rather than federal reserve notes)?

How to deal with the problem of direct deposit (since no actual deposit slip is used)?

How does one prove their FRNs were converted to lawful money, thereby exempting the income tax?

If one converts ALL their income for a year to lawful money, do they simply not file a 1040 or is there a form or forms they can file in lieu of the 1040 to be sure the IRS isn't going to come after them years later?

People have been doing this since 1933 (actually, this has been an issue since the civil war), most of the time, they would just exchange the FRNs for US Bank Notes, but that changed in 1977.

Now, the FRN serves as US Bank notes and the Bank does an accounting of all Lawful money transactions.

As for the IRS, one could file for a full refund or, after a year of redeeming lawful money, do a ZERO withholding on the employers W-4.

Then, when you file a 1040, you simply have ZERO taxable income, but you must redeem lawful money for a full year before doing that.

The IRS has the right to contact you and you must provide your proof that you have been redeeming lawful money with your demands.

As for direct deposit, change your signature card as directed above, or send a notarized letter to your bank that all withdrawals or deposits on account XXXXXX-XXXXXXare for credit on account or exchanged for lawful money in the form of Non-negotiable Federal Reserve Notes of face value.

Send it Registered mail to your bank.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 692708

Thanks for all your help. If everyone does this the FED is finished. rken

Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul

so if you have tax witholding from working for someone else how do you go about getting 'lawful money' for that first year if the bank gives out nothing but federal reserve notes? By simply stamping that note on every paycheck?