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Holy Fuck!...i...ummm...I don't even...I mean, Holy Fuck!...errr...better than the Matrix...but...uhhh...and...better than Memento...I don't know...the Prestige...brain overloaded...I may have just seen a perfect movie...greatest ending of all time...i don't......

Holy Fuck!...i...ummm...I don't even...I mean, Holy Fuck!...errr...better than the Matrix...but...uhhh...and...better than Memento...I don't know...the Prestige...brain overloaded...I may have just seen a perfect movie...greatest ending of all time...i don't......

I thought it was the most obvious ending they could have done. I mean, as an audience we were slapped across the fucking face with it. I HATED this film, I thought it was so average and unoriginal. It went on forever, too.

Holy Fuck!...i...ummm...I don't even...I mean, Holy Fuck!...errr...better than the Matrix...but...uhhh...and...better than Memento...I don't know...the Prestige...brain overloaded...I may have just seen a perfect movie...greatest ending of all time...i don't......

I thought it was the most obvious ending they could have done. I mean, as an audience we were slapped across the fucking face with it. I HATED this film, I thought it was so average and unoriginal. It went on forever, too.

I thought it was the most obvious ending they could have done. I mean, as an audience we were slapped across the fucking face with it. I HATED this film, I thought it was so average and unoriginal. It went on forever, too.

Holy Fuck!...i...ummm...I don't even...I mean, Holy Fuck!...errr...better than the Matrix...but...uhhh...and...better than Memento...I don't know...the Prestige...brain overloaded...I may have just seen a perfect movie...greatest ending of all time...i don't......

I thought it was the most obvious ending they could have done. I mean, as an audience we were slapped across the fucking face with it. I HATED this film, I thought it was so average and unoriginal. It went on forever, too.

im not sure im willing to go as far as amy, but it wasnt the movie i thought it would be, even though i dont really know what i was in for. visually impressive, but i figured out the story as soon as cobb mentioned inception was not impossible. the other 'twists' were just diversions from the obviousness of that first thing

Honestly, Parker. I'm kinda shocked that you're so head-frigged by this film.

It was good, and stunningly shot, some fantastic moments etc. etc.

But, Jesus the script was stodgy. Despite a lot of shootin and runnin, it was bizarrely boring. In dreams you can't really die - you just wake up. Therefore: no real tension. (I know, I know...limbo. Hokay.)

And, I never thought I'd say this, but it reminded me how fresh and fun the Matrix was when it first came out.

Greatest ending of all time?

Huzzuh?

Most obvious ending ever. And I'm a cloth-headed idiot at predicting plots.

The ending scene, the top started to topple a bit right before the screen went black, right? So you are left to determine wether Cobb is dreaming or not. Does anyone have any idea the span of time that passed after Cobb had to leave his kids and leave the country? His kids were the same age at the end as they were in his memories and projections. I really need a new viewing.

Yeah I noticed that at the end about the top too. Seeing that the kids were about the same age as in his memories makes me believe he was dreaming. I thought it was the best ending for him.
What I want to know is if it isn't a dream how did Saito get out of his subconscious/limbo? I mean they show him go to grab the gun, but what did he do with it? Did he kill himself in the dream or did he kill Cobb? How did that get him/Cobb out? Thats the only part (suprisingly) that wasn't clear for me.

Holy Fuck!...i...ummm...I don't even...I mean, Holy Fuck!...errr...better than the Matrix...but...uhhh...and...better than Memento...I don't know...the Prestige...brain overloaded...I may have just seen a perfect movie...greatest ending of all time...i don't......

I thought it was the most obvious ending they could have done. I mean, as an audience we were slapped across the fucking face with it. I HATED this film, I thought it was so average and unoriginal. It went on forever, too.

Yeah, my boyfriend saw it last night and thought it sucked.

What happened to Leonardo Di Caprio? Was he ever good or is he just becoming more transparently bad?

**spoiler thought**
what about if the inception was actually done to cobb to help him get over what happened between him and his wife and cillian murphys character was just a pawn in that inception. maybe they're real mission was to implant a thought in cobb.

Holy Fuck!...i...ummm...I don't even...I mean, Holy Fuck!...errr...better than the Matrix...but...uhhh...and...better than Memento...I don't know...the Prestige...brain overloaded...I may have just seen a perfect movie...greatest ending of all time...i don't......

I thought it was the most obvious ending they could have done. I mean, as an audience we were slapped across the fucking face with it. I HATED this film, I thought it was so average and unoriginal. It went on forever, too.

Yeah, my boyfriend saw it last night and thought it sucked.

What happened to Leonardo Di Caprio? Was he ever good or is he just becoming more transparently bad?

Whattttt?! Leo is one of the best actors we have today. He has played excellent roles in some of my all time favorite films.

The Basketball Diaries (The film was only okay, but DiCaprio was incredible)
Gangs of New York (He was solid, but definitely outshined by Day-Lewis)
Catch Me If You Can
The Aviator
The Departed (Brilliant!)
Blood Diamond
Revolutionary Road
Shutter Island
and now Inception!

Was he ever good? What happened to him? These questions are ridiculous.

Holy Fuck!...i...ummm...I don't even...I mean, Holy Fuck!...errr...better than the Matrix...but...uhhh...and...better than Memento...I don't know...the Prestige...brain overloaded...I may have just seen a perfect movie...greatest ending of all time...i don't......

I thought it was the most obvious ending they could have done. I mean, as an audience we were slapped across the fucking face with it. I HATED this film, I thought it was so average and unoriginal. It went on forever, too.

Yeah, my boyfriend saw it last night and thought it sucked.

What happened to Leonardo Di Caprio? Was he ever good or is he just becoming more transparently bad?

Whattttt?! Leo is one of the best actors we have today. He has played excellent roles in some of my all time favorite films.

The Basketball Diaries (The film was only okay, but DiCaprio was incredible)
Gangs of New York (He was solid, but definitely outshined by Day-Lewis)
Catch Me If You Can
The Aviator
The Departed (Brilliant!)
Blood Diamond
Revolutionary Road
Shutter Island
and now Inception!

Was he ever good? What happened to him? These questions are ridiculous.

Holy Fuck!...i...ummm...I don't even...I mean, Holy Fuck!...errr...better than the Matrix...but...uhhh...and...better than Memento...I don't know...the Prestige...brain overloaded...I may have just seen a perfect movie...greatest ending of all time...i don't......

I thought it was the most obvious ending they could have done. I mean, as an audience we were slapped across the fucking face with it. I HATED this film, I thought it was so average and unoriginal. It went on forever, too.

Yeah, my boyfriend saw it last night and thought it sucked.

What happened to Leonardo Di Caprio? Was he ever good or is he just becoming more transparently bad?

Whattttt?! Leo is one of the best actors we have today. He has played excellent roles in some of my all time favorite films.

The Basketball Diaries (The film was only okay, but DiCaprio was incredible)
Gangs of New York (He was solid, but definitely outshined by Day-Lewis)
Catch Me If You Can
The Aviator
The Departed (Brilliant!)
Blood Diamond
Revolutionary Road
Shutter Island
and now Inception!

Was he ever good? What happened to him? These questions are ridiculous.

Easy fanboy, most of those films were average at best. Anyway, we're clearly going to disagree and I don't care what your favourite films are and I'm sure the feeling's mutual.

To throw in my two cents - I just don't like the grown up Leo. I try to give him the benefit of the doubt but more often than not I forget all about the film as soon as I leave the cinema. Credible or not, he's allowed himself to become so typecast and that makes me question his artistic integrity.

I actually really enjoyed the movies he did in his teens (The Basketball Diaries, This Boy's Life and What's Eating Gilbert Grape, etc) because the plots were engaging and he played some great, memorable characters. Everything he's in now is such big-budget bravado with little substance.

I thought Revolutionary Road would be different but that felt flat to me too.

Here's an interview with Leo about Inception and dreams. I'm not reading anything in this thread because I don't want to catch a spoiler. So if this has been posted already a mod (obviously not me) can delete it (Frank?).

Maybe I saw a different movie. I didn't think it had any "twists" at all in it, let alone a twist ending.
That last shot just makes you go back and re-examine the whole and then you're left to decide how everything worked out. What other movie can take basically two seconds of film and do that? I think any other director would have cut it before or completely after. I was scared to death that he'd do it "before," that the studio or whoever would have made him, so that that would be the big "TWIST!"

I also loved how Nolan creates an entire mythology in just the 2 1/2 hours of the film. Not even Matrix could do that (coming from a comic book.) You probably have to go back to Indiana Jones or Star Wars for that. Toying with that theme of an original idea versus one being planted.

I also also love the fact that, unless you knew specifically what film it was from, that you could take a still picture from pretty much any scene and not really have any idea who directed it. There's none of that "highly stylized" look to things.
Some of those grand shots with the buildings and the whole cityscape moving and whatnot, I could think of was "Terry Gilliam would have such a hard-on for that!" But seeing it, you know this is definitely not in Gilliam's style. Nolan's films, you have to take them all in, the music, the sound, the acting, the plot and structure to recognize it as one of his.

The plot is pretty basic. The whole thing done entirely in exposition would probably have just taken 10-15 minutes. But that to me was just representative of what they kept saying about Inception in the film. To boil it down to it's most basic parts and then build around it. That's exactly what the movie did to the audience.

And to say just because there's no real consequences when they die means there's no tension is questionable. The whole front of the film builds up why he can not fail doing this, what the ramifications of him failing would be against how difficult the job is going to be. He needs everyone on the team to be there or he can't get it done, therefore they can not die either or he fails. There's even danger in them not really knowing what will happen to them if they die there, what it will end up doing to their waking self's mind.

Really the only thing wrong with this film I can see is Michael Caine being in it. Even all the other cast he re-uses seem to fit the characters but the only thing I could hear when Caine was on the screen was "Hi. I'm Michael Caine. I'm only here because this is a Christopher Nolan film and I'm in all his films."

**spoiler thought**
what about if the inception was actually done to cobb to help him get over what happened between him and his wife and cillian murphys character was just a pawn in that inception. maybe they're real mission was to implant a thought in cobb.

I never would've thought of this on my own, but I like it. Reminds me of the Shutter Island ending, that (SPOILERS) he was the one they were messing with the whole time. Good call there.

Chris Nolan proves again he's goddamn brilliant, and Inception falls somewhere after Memento and Batman Begins and Prestige but above Following and Dark Knight. The only problem with Inception was that

[***spoilers***] I didn't give a shit about anything that wasn't in the dream world. First off, DiCaprio's character was willing to risk the lives of his friends just to see his kids again, which is a noble enough cause, I guess, but not something I cared enough about to see Joseph Gordon-Levitt or Ellen Page's characters get killed off for it. Also, if you think about it, the only thing that happened in the movie was 1: Leo gets to see his kid again, and 2: one giant energy corporation is disbanded allowing another to become a monopoly. That's it. In the end, all of the characters were either bad guys (to a degree) or not developed enough to care about. [*** End Spoilers***]

Holy Fuck!...i...ummm...I don't even...I mean, Holy Fuck!...errr...better than the Matrix...but...uhhh...and...better than Memento...I don't know...the Prestige...brain overloaded...I may have just seen a perfect movie...greatest ending of all time...i don't......

I thought it was the most obvious ending they could have done. I mean, as an audience we were slapped across the fucking face with it. I HATED this film, I thought it was so average and unoriginal. It went on forever, too.

Yeah, my boyfriend saw it last night and thought it sucked.

What happened to Leonardo Di Caprio? Was he ever good or is he just becoming more transparently bad?

Whattttt?! Leo is one of the best actors we have today. He has played excellent roles in some of my all time favorite films.

The Basketball Diaries (The film was only okay, but DiCaprio was incredible)
Gangs of New York (He was solid, but definitely outshined by Day-Lewis)
Catch Me If You Can
The Aviator
The Departed (Brilliant!)
Blood Diamond
Revolutionary Road
Shutter Island
and now Inception!

Was he ever good? What happened to him? These questions are ridiculous.

Easy fanboy, most of those films were average at best. Anyway, we're clearly going to disagree and I don't care what your favourite films are and I'm sure the feeling's mutual.

To throw in my two cents - I just don't like the grown up Leo. I try to give him the benefit of the doubt but more often than not I forget all about the film as soon as I leave the cinema. Credible or not, he's allowed himself to become so typecast and that makes me question his artistic integrity.

I actually really enjoyed the movies he did in his teens (The Basketball Diaries, This Boy's Life and What's Eating Gilbert Grape, etc) because the plots were engaging and he played some great, memorable characters. Everything he's in now is such big-budget bravado with little substance.

I thought Revolutionary Road would be different but that felt flat to me too.

I really don't care much for Leo either. He seems like he wants to be Johnny Depp soooo bad, but he just ain't.
What impressed me with this movie was that joseph gordon-levitt. That guy is incredible. Then I turn on SNL last night and they're rerunning the one he hosted. He is just loaded with talent.

It was cool seeing JG-L and Lukas Haas reunited on screen, however briefly.

Really good movie, I thought. I didn't leave scratching my head and needing to see it again right away. Like others, I wouldn't call those twists, really, just a matter of how you interpreted that final shot. I could've done without all the stuff in the snow; that was pretty dull. Hard to say if this was better than The Prestige, which I loved.

It was cool seeing JG-L and Lukas Haas reunited on screen, however briefly.

Really good movie, I thought. I didn't leave scratching my head and needing to see it again right away. Like others, I wouldn't call those twists, really, just a matter of how you interpreted that final shot. I could've done without all the stuff in the snow; that was pretty dull. Hard to say if this was better than The Prestige, which I loved.

Where was Haas in it?
I didn't really feel a need to see it again for any head-scratching purposes, but I wanted to see it again just because it was so damn cool. The whole hotel scene especially.

also, I went ahead and put Spoilers in the title because, 40 posts in, spoilers are inevitable, Mr. Anderson!

so, ok. they went into fisher's mind. why was there all that stuff from leo and mol's world? was that all the residual stuff he was carrying? and I don't think ellen and leo hooked up to fisher in the snow land....Idk.

That's what I took away from it when I was watching that scene. Even when you go into somebody else's mind - it's their world but you fill it?

And at the point where they were - no matter what happened - they were all basically involved. They were all in the first dream. If one of them went another "level" they would all be there in some form right?

yes a second viewing is in need for me as well. Why did nolan put that scene at the very beginning with the old Saitio? Could it then have been that leo was forever trapped in a some sort of dream loop after the fact of the whole movie?

like, say the whole movie is true, and what they did actually happened. But then, what we see at the start is leo seeing the ancient saito trapped in limbo, and leo merely creates the rest of the movie for us via his memories, and he relives his escapades or something....I don't know.

i think he just wanted to bring it round full circle. but the more i think about the inception was really for leo it makes sense. they needed to plant the idea in his head and what better way than to carry out a mission so he could go home. i can't wait to see it from that point of view next weekend.

Why did nolan put that scene at the very beginning with the old Saitio?

I didn't read anything extra into that, just figured he wanted to begin the story in medias res like so many other films do, a nonlinear bookend to come back to. I mean, that's what I was thinking about the whole film: what has to happen to get Cobb reunited with this elderly Saito, and why are they different ages? (Because Saito kept living out his years in limbo, just like Cobb did with his wife.) Or maybe there is relevance to it, as you suggest, giving people something to talk about.

yes a second viewing is in need for me as well. Why did nolan put that scene at the very beginning with the old Saitio? Could it then have been that leo was forever trapped in a some sort of dream loop after the fact of the whole movie?

like, say the whole movie is true, and what they did actually happened. But then, what we see at the start is leo seeing the ancient saito trapped in limbo, and leo merely creates the rest of the movie for us via his memories, and he relives his escapades or something....I don't know.

I don't get the placement of that scene at the start. thoughts?

I thought the whole thing at the front was just a storytelling device to suck the viewer in. In any other movie it'd seem like Leo's in deep shit. soaked and captured and then thrown in front of what's supposed to be a dangerous man as he asks if he's there to kill him. But then after watching it all and you see how it was supposed to work and how and why each of them got there, you realize him asking if he's there to kill him is really a means to save him.

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