Wait, you are saying because I want to restrict government, means I want to force kids to go to war?

Do you even read what you write? o.O

If you agree that the end justies the means then sure, send everyone off to war to end it a draft might wake people up. Who cares how to stop it, just stop it. In my view, government purchasing made in the USA perpetuates the very exisitance of the government.

If the end is to eliminate government, why would you hope that they purchase made in the USA products? It perpetuates the very exisitance of the government you wish to eliminate. Through nepotism and coporate selection on who/which companies get to provide for it.

If you agree that the end justies the means then sure, send everyone off to war to end it a draft might wake people up. Who cares how to stop it, just stop it. In my view, government purchasing made in the USA perpetuates the very exisitance of the government.

If the end is to eliminate government, why would you hope that they purchase made in the USA products? It perpetuates the very exisitance of the government you wish to eliminate. Through nepotism and coporate selection on who/which companies get to provide for it.

OK, let's break down this logic.

"I want government to be subject to arbitrary and intense restriction by the people at large"

"OH!!!111! So you want to enslave children and send them off to die in a war!!!111!!"

most people that use such logic I call liberals, democrats, republicans, or neoconservatives.

You do know that illogical appeals to emotion are not only fallacious, but are the very weapon the left and the right use to stifle liberty.

"We do have some differences and our approaches will be different, but that makes him his own person. I mean why should he [Rand] be a clone and do everything and think just exactly as I have. I think it's an opportunity to be independent minded. We are about 99% [the same on issues]." Ron Paul

I am in favor of something like this - but ONLY for government. Government should have to abide by rules the rest of us do not. I don't really think the US Gov 'buying American' will make any kind of real difference, it's more about any excuse to chain government down and put them under the control of the people. Also, if there were going to be any sort of protectionist economic stimuli stuff, this has to be one of the more harmless ones.

Makes sense to me

It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.

The government should buy us the best bang for our tax dollar. Which means trading in an open world economy. However, there is a potential national security issue if supply lines are cut off in war time. So there may be an argument (in this case) for "protectionist" policies in procuring national defense products.

This is the wrong question to ask. It should be "Should the US Government buy anything?" The answer is no. They should ask for donations. (the IRS already has a mechanism for "patriotic donations") In reality, the government doesn't buy anything (at least not at this point in time)-they use credit, with citizens and holders of US debt paying for it.

Just wanted to bump this to the latest page in case newcomers are interested. /exits thread

Why would anyone want their government paying higher prices(assuming identical products)? To say yes, is dumb imo, unless it is in some sort of back door way to get the government wasting money on this stuff rather than oppressing it's people.

Why would anyone want their government paying higher prices(assuming identical products)? To say yes, is dumb imo, unless it is in some sort of back door way to get the government wasting money on this stuff rather than oppressing it's people.

If the end is to eliminate government, why would you hope that they purchase made in the USA products? It perpetuates the very exisitance of the government you wish to eliminate.

Good point. We should start by mandating that the US government can only buy products made start to finish entirely on Wake Island. It's only 2.85 square miles and already controlled by the Fedcoats. I say it's a reasonable, temporary compromise between those who want to eliminate government purchasing entirely and those who want to limit the government to things produced inside the US. It could be promoted as the Wake Island Stimulus Program.

I am in favor of something like this - but ONLY for government. Government should have to abide by rules the rest of us do not. I don't really think the US Gov 'buying American' will make any kind of real difference, it's more about any excuse to chain government down and put them under the control of the people. Also, if there were going to be any sort of protectionist economic stimuli stuff, this has to be one of the more harmless ones.

and you realize that this logic is the Keyesian utopia the Left etc...uses to push thier programs?

This is the wrong question to ask. It should be "Should the US Government buy anything?" The answer is no. They should ask for donations. (the IRS already has a mechanism for "patriotic donations") In reality, the government doesn't buy anything (at least not at this point in time)-they use credit, with citizens and holders of US debt paying for it.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to heavenlyboy34 again.

Originally Posted by Christopher O' Brien

NOTICE: Any cognitive infiltrators trying to put this down will only be exposing themselves by posting against the idea.

I am in favor of something like this - but ONLY for government. Government should have to abide by rules the rest of us do not. I don't really think the US Gov 'buying American' will make any kind of real difference, it's more about any excuse to chain government down and put them under the control of the people. Also, if there were going to be any sort of protectionist economic stimuli stuff, this has to be one of the more harmless ones.

I need some clarification on this Gunny, something is getting lost in translation.

I need some clarification on this Gunny, something is getting lost in translation.

Apparently it is.

But why should I answer you -- you've accused me of wanting to murder children against their will in a war. You have accused me of being a Keynesian. So anything I say, no matter how benign, I am convinced you are just going to twist it into the next monstrosity that pops into your head.

From where I sit, why should I help you imagine weird crimes against me that I have never committed?

What's next, I quote a line from the Constitution and you accuse me of being a pedophile?

How about take a step back and reassess what's happening here and try starting fresh?

Good point. We should start by mandating that the US government can only buy products made start to finish entirely on Wake Island. It's only 2.85 square miles and already controlled by the Fedcoats. I say it's a reasonable, temporary compromise between those who want to eliminate government purchasing entirely and those who want to limit the government to things produced inside the US. It could be promoted as the Wake Island Stimulus Program.

Works for me

It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.