I wouldn't think a dislocated toe would keep him out long, especially since thier still mathematically alive in the Wild Card race.

But with Junior, you never know.

bradmu

09-04-2006, 09:59 PM

video board at the game said he dislocated his 2nd toe and that xrays were negative. and Day-to-Day. He limped off the field and it didn't look good. So I'd guess he's out probably 3-7 games. hopefully sooner though.

SirFelixCat

09-04-2006, 09:59 PM

I wouldn't think a dislocated toe would keep him out long, especially since thier still mathematically alive in the Wild Card race.

But with Junior, you never know.

My first thought when I heard dislocated toe is "shut down for the season".

Hope not, but we'll see...:cry:

lo ryder

09-04-2006, 10:02 PM

I'm taking bets on the over/under.......established line is 5 :(

91OSUAlum

09-04-2006, 10:05 PM

More importantly, does anyone suspect the Reds will roll off 3-4 wins in a row with Griffey out? Not because we do not need him. But he is slumping and his defense in CF is the worst in the majors for over three years now. He needs to move to RF. He is a class act and a Hall of Famer. If WK is able to get Griffey to move, then the Reds will win the division next year. Mark it down!

bradmu

09-04-2006, 10:14 PM

More importantly, does anyone suspect the Reds will roll off 3-4 wins in a row with Griffey out? Not because we do not need him. But he is slumping and his defense in CF is the worst in the majors for over three years now. He needs to move to RF. He is a class act and a Hall of Famer. If WK is able to get Griffey to move, then the Reds will win the division next year. Mark it down!

Griffey was slumping? I thought he just ended a 15 game hitting streak a game or 2 ago? I think he's been batting .300+ for the past 25 or so games. I sure would rather have Griffey in the lineup then Denorfia or Hollandsworth.

91OSUAlum

09-04-2006, 11:06 PM

Since Aug. 1st,

Griffey's line

5 HRs, 11 RBIs, 5 GDP, 22 K, OBP .392, SLG .500

But those stats lie. Here are the key stats.

RISP - AVG .213
RISP w/ Two Outs - AVG .161

Defense - Has cost us one game on the brutal road trip and several more during the year as he is just not capable of getting to balls any more.

Batting AVG means nothing if he does not produce when the team needs him.

Last 16 games when the Reds have gone 5-11 and pissed away the season.

Griffey - 1HR, 3 RBIs

So stats lie!

Ron Madden

09-04-2006, 11:30 PM

Stats do not lie.

Stats can tell us the real story of run production and runs allowed.

In order to read that story we must first understand the stats. Some stats are far more telling than others.

TOBTTReds

09-05-2006, 12:06 AM

Stats do not lie.

Stats can tell us the real story of run production and runs allowed.

In order to read that story we must first understand the stats. Some stats are far more telling than others.

Well stated. The "stats lie" comment was followed by more stats...doesn't make sense.

WVRedsFan

09-05-2006, 12:40 AM

More importantly, does anyone suspect the Reds will roll off 3-4 wins in a row with Griffey out? Not because we do not need him. But he is slumping and his defense in CF is the worst in the majors for over three years now. He needs to move to RF. He is a class act and a Hall of Famer. If WK is able to get Griffey to move, then the Reds will win the division next year. Mark it down!

BS. total BS. Who is going to replace his numbers? Denorfia? Hollandsworth? Who?

I've said it elsewhere and I'll say it here. I hope Krivsky trades him for another couple of worthless pitchers. Or DFA's him. Then, and only then will he be able to play in a place where he is appreciated as a hall of famer and pretty darn good player.

WVRedsFan

09-05-2006, 12:42 AM

Since Aug. 1st,

Griffey's line

5 HRs, 11 RBIs, 5 GDP, 22 K, OBP .392, SLG .500

But those stats lie. Here are the key stats.

RISP - AVG .213
RISP w/ Two Outs - AVG .161

Defense - Has cost us one game on the brutal road trip and several more during the year as he is just not capable of getting to balls any more.

Batting AVG means nothing if he does not produce when the team needs him.

Last 16 games when the Reds have gone 5-11 and pissed away the season.

Griffey - 1HR, 3 RBIs

So stats lie!

Ok, let's look at Dunn, Fan Favorite Freel, Brandon Phillips, Edwin, and tohers. This has been a team effort.

redsmetz

09-05-2006, 05:30 AM

The more accurate statement would have been "Stats are deceiving". I noted a while ago that Junior was hitting consistently but was lacking significant production. In fact, the other teams were limiting his production. When he was getting hits or on base, it wasn't doing much, if any, damage. That's not to single him out, because you could say that for any number of the Reds this past month.