I called Enve and a guy that answered told me that they have had a ton a requests from builders asking for a carbon road fork with disc tabs because their customers are asking for it instead of the cyclocross disc fork.

but only two proper road frames that I know of - Volagi and Colnago. Volagi's are available for sale, not sure about the Colnago, and Volagi should be applauded for getting something to market, even though it's not my cup of tea design-wise.

My point was that this is an OPPORTUNITY for smaller/newer manufacturers (or at least designers/stickerers?) to become known in the marketplace by creating something new and funky. Instead they all seem to want to do the same old same old curvy tubed carbon frames.... [insert fast asleep smiley here]

The beauty of bikes is that new designs can come in relatively quickly and change the landscape - think of all the developments over the years - STI, clipless pedals, aheadsets, carbon, tubeless, discs etc. Okay, the thick-headed riders take a decade to get their heads round half the stuff but all we need is some decent disc-brake road frames and rim brakes and non-disc wheels could be on the way out......

I've already gone hydro discs on my commuter and it really is significantly better than rim brakes. Now we just need some decent roadie frames.

but only two proper road frames that I know of - Volagi and Colnago. Volagi's are available for sale, not sure about the Colnago, and Volagi should be applauded for getting something to market, even though it's not my cup of tea design-wise.

My point was that this is an OPPORTUNITY for smaller/newer manufacturers (or at least designers/stickerers?) to become known in the marketplace by creating something new and funky. Instead they all seem to want to do the same old same old curvy tubed carbon frames.... [insert fast asleep smiley here]

The beauty of bikes is that new designs can come in relatively quickly and change the landscape - think of all the developments over the years - STI, clipless pedals, aheadsets, carbon, tubeless, discs etc. Okay, the thick-headed riders take a decade to get their heads round half the stuff but all we need is some decent disc-brake road frames and rim brakes and non-disc wheels could be on the way out......

I've already gone hydro discs on my commuter and it really is significantly better than rim brakes. Now we just need some decent roadie frames.

There are some other disc road frames out there, ex: Salsa, Raleigh, Kona, but these are more touring type of road bikes. I agree that there should be more pure road bikes with disc brakes. I think the big holdup is getting a true carbon road disc fork, not a cyclocross or touring fork. Rumors are that Enve and possibly Easton are working on a carbon road fork with disc tabs.

Really, really poor design by Wilier on the drive-side chainstay cable exit point of the rear shift cable. The exit point should be at the top or back of the chainstay, not below it. Look at it. The cable interferes with fast wheel changes. This would have been avoided if Wilier did the exit point at the top or back of the chainstay like they did on their other carbon road frame. Just stupid.

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