But, I
am confused as to when you talk about THREE in this 'unholy trinity'. Who is
the 3rd?

This goes into more
detail about the possible 3rd person of the unholy trinity in Novel
form. I’ve been on a sort of “sabbatical” from posting on
Five Doves so wanted to answer your question but give you some explanation at
the same time. - Shalom

Dave was looking over
part of Chuck’s manuscript that was now upon the table. Dave said,
“I see you have a scene called, “The False Profit”.
What’s that about? And why are you spelling it P, R, O, F, I, T?”

Chuck said,
“That’s all about, of course, the false prophet, spelled P, R, O,
P, H, E, T. Since you asked, I have a question for all of you. What does the
Bible say is the purpose of the false prophet?”

“Oh, that’s easy,”
said Virginia.
“It’s to prepare the way for the antichrist.”

“Very good,”
said Chuck, “Although as I’m sure you know, the book of Revelation
never uses the word, “antichrist”. On the other hand, the author
of Revelation uses this term in both John I and II. So we can use it. Yes,
just as John the Baptist prepared the way for Jesus Christ, the false prophet
will prepare the way for the antichrist. And just as both John the Baptist and
Jesus Christ are from the tribe of Judah,
in other words Jewish, so we would expect the heritage of both the false
prophet and the antichrist would be somehow from the tribe of Judah. Next question, how will the
false prophet prepare the way for the antichrist?”

The rest of them looked
at each other. Dave finally said, “Okay, what is it?”

Chuck said,
“I’ll give you a hint. The key word is, “image”. And
as any politician will tell you, image is everything. The purpose of the false
prophet is to give power to the image
of the antichrist. Here, let me read it.”

And he
had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast
should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the
beast should be killed. Revelation 13:15

Chuck continued,
“And we know the “he” in this verse is the false prophet
because he is identified later in verse 19. See.”

And
the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles
before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the
beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a
lake of fire burning with brimstone. Revelation 19:20

“I couldn’t
agree with you more,” said Virginia.
The false prophet caused the image of the beast to have life, and then to even
speak. The Bible is describing talking pictures, what we call motion
pictures. The image has life because the image moves just like the real
thing. And the image speaks as well!”

“Well, blow me
over, and call me late for supper” said Elizabeth. “I never thought the Bible
was describing a video, no less. Just imagine, only 100 years ago they had no
idea what this was talking about, let alone 2000 years ago. My word, gave life
to the image and had the image speaking as well, how much plainer could it
be.”

Chuck said, “Not
much plainer to me anyway. So, I think we can agree that it seems clear now
that “image” can mean a motion picture. Or it could mean the
persona of someone created for the consumption of the masses. Or both.

Obadiah said,
“Well, it is pretty easy to figure out who gave power and money to the
lawless one.”

Chuck said, “That
is true. Let’s say that the first beast introduced in Revelation 13 is
the false prophet and the second is the antichrist. Which means that it would
be the false prophet that gives power to the image of the antichrist in verse
15. That would also explain why it was the dragon who gave power to the false
prophet in verse 4.

And
they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped
the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with
him? Revelation 13:4

Chuck continued, “The
question is whether the dragon gives earthly power by acting through and
possessing a person. We know the dragon is later identified as satan. Okay, here
it is.”

And
the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan,
which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels
were cast out with him. Revelation 12:9

Dave said, “I
really have to share this. I was thinking of the triangle of the unholy
trinity with satan at the bottom. I have also been playing with the numbers of
these various names while you were all talking. I know satan can change from
the devil to lucifer, an angel of light, seeing whom he can deceive, so he
shows two faces. So I was thinking the name should reflect these two faces by
being divisible by the numbers 13 and 8. Running the numbers I found that while
“satan” and “devil” were both divisible by 8, the word
“serpent” was divisible by both 13 and 8. There you have it. Then
I was thinking that the name of the false prophet could be 8, reflecting one
face, and the name of the antichrist, of course, divisible by 13. Of course
Chuck, the first, middle, last, and even mother’s maiden name of one you
identified in your play as possibly the lawless one are each one divisible by
13. I then tried the first and last name of one who clearly gave power to the
lawless one, and guess what, it was divisible by 8!”

Virginia said,
“Really, both first and last name separately were divisible by 8?”

Dave said, “Well
no, just first and last name together.”

Obadiah said,
“Well that’s something anyway.”

Chuck said, “To
me, that really is something.”

Dave said,
“There’s more. I was also thinking of King Arthur Pendragon again
and that Merlin gave power to Arthur. But then Excalibur really gave power to
them both. I then came to the realization that Excalibur represents the serpent,
but not just represents, Excalibur is the serpent. Think about it. Excalibur
bites with its two edges just as the serpent bites with its two fangs. In the
triangle of the unholy trinity you would have at the bottom Excalibur in place
of the serpent rising up from the depths of the lake of fire. Guess what? The
number for the word “Excalibur” is divisible by both 13 and 8 just
like the number for the word “serpent! Not only that, but while the
number for the word “serpent” is 520, the number for the word
“Excalibur” is exactly twice 520 at 1040!”

Stuart said, “You
know, there really must be something to these numbers.”

Obadiah said, “Oh
yea of little faith. After all this time, you are just now coming
around?”

Stuart smiled and
replied, “What can I say.”

Dave said, “Well,
guess what I can say. If that made you think, this will blow you away! Both
Merlin and Arthur fit on the unholy trinity triangle as well. Merlin would be
the false prophet as the word “Merlin” is divisible by 8 while the
word “Arthur” is divisible by 13! The dragon Excalibur gives power
that appears good that is divisible by 8 to Merlin while at the same time gives
power that is bad that is divisible by 13 to Arthur. Have you ever seen someone
with a tattoo of a serpent wrapped around a sword?”

Stuart laughed and said,
“Okay, now you’ve got me convinced!”

Elizabeth said,
“Praise the Lord.”

Chuck said, “Anyway,
my original false prophet in the play, which you all have easily figured out, is
still very active today in predicting the future. Just last night on TV I
heard him predicting that in the United States we would have increased inflation,
then increased unemployment, then actual state defaults. Even now this guy is
quite active, so he hasn’t gone away. And he has many billions of
dollars, some even think trillions at his disposal to enable him to create a
false image of the lawless one.”

Stuart said, “And
boy did this guy have to grease a lot of palms to create this false image.”

Dave said, “Boy,
that’s for sure. I was just reading about the lawless one’s
step-grandma saying she was present at his birth in Kenya and then he has dozens of
lawsuits that must be constantly prevented from even coming to court. As the
English version of Pravda stated in, well here is the source,”

Dave continued, “If
any of these cases are ever able to be just heard in court, not won, just
heard, it is all over for the lawless one. Because, the case will be over in
the discovery phase. And even conservative estimates for what’s been
spent so far are close to a billion dollars. Where’d the money come
from?”

Stuart said, “He
does have a problem. Of course, I’m sure building his image in the first
place took a lot of money. You don’t go from being a nobody with virtually
no means of support, to what was he? Oh yea, first a teacher at a college,
then to State Senator and then to United States Senator in 2006. Then, by 2008
he’s the US
President. That’s some kind of miracle. Someone with mighty deep
pockets had to build that image, almost overnight. And had to bury is old
image along with his college transcripts under a different name, and the
biggest of all, his birth certificate.”

Obadiah said, “You
know how it says he will make war on the Saints and overcome them? Well, he
sure did overcome Alan Keyes. Twice. If there was ever a Saint in government,
Alan Keyes sure qualifies.”

Stuart said,
“Yeah, I love that guy.”

Obadiah continued,
“Me too. And there were indeed many Saints that voted for him. So this could
be at least a partial fulfillment of Revelation 13:7 where it talks about
overcoming the Saints and then be given power over the most powerful country in
the world.”

Dave said, “True,
virtually power to control the whole world. Who can make war against the US?”

Obadiah said, “If anyone
had a compelling interest in having him disqualified for not showing he meets
the requirements to be President, it was Alan.”

Virginia said,
“I wonder what would happen if just one of all those cases finally makes
it to just to the discovery phase. Maybe that’s his mortal wound with
the sword.”

Stuart said, “Yea,
the sword of truth. All those appointments out the window. Just think, that
will include his latest to the Supreme Court.”

Obadiah said, “I
don’t think anyone will argue there were more qualified persons to sit on
the Supreme Court. Her main claim to fame was that she had successfully
defended the lawless one against all those lawsuits. Or should I say, got them
thrown out of court before they could be heard. Didn’t even have to defend
them in court!”

“Amazing,
isn’t it,” said Eveyln.

“A miracle,”
said Stuart. “Or should I say many miracles.”

“Yes,” said
Dave. “Almost like fire descending from heaven and burning each of those
lawsuits up the moment they touched a judge’s hand.”

Chuck said, “Dave,
you of course are referring to what it says in Revelation. I suppose another
possibility could be smart bombs like those dropped in Iraq. They could destroy all of
the lawless ones opposition. Just imagine if that is how the Saints are
overcome. Remove all opposition. Of course that only leaves his supporters.
That could also explain how his wound by the sword is healed. But Dave, I like
the sound of your way better.”

Dave said,
“Thanks, Chuck. And as you were saying about the false prophet.”

Chuck said, “Oh,
yes. The false prophet gave power to the image of the beast. And we know that
the word “image” means not the real thing. He has an
“image” created for him, a history, a religion, a set of beliefs,
what we can call a façade covering up the real person. And another meaning is
like in a motion picture where we have an image which is given life, to move,
and to even speak. And to do this took a whole lot of money. That is one
thing the false prophet has in spades. He made literally billions if not
trillions of dollars in profit, by predicting the future.”

Obadiah said, “I
thought that was what true prophets did. You know, predict the future.”

Chuck said, “Let
me clarify that. He predicted the future, usually the collapse of some
countries currency, and then he caused that future to happen, or rather
“nudged” it. And for that he was handsomely rewarded through
buying and selling futures and shorts on the currencies. You realize in all of
this making of money, none of it was from producing any goods or services? So,
whether this person is “the” false prophet, he is definitely “a”
false prophet, in both senses of the word.”

Stuart said,
“Don’t you mean both senses of the two words? You know, the one
ending in P, H, E, T, and the other in F, I, T!”

Virginia said,
“If you are a true prophet then you can predict the future and you could
make a lot of money.”

Obadiah said, “I
don’t think God would give someone the gift of prophecy so they could
profit from it. Remember, Daniel refused the King’s money? And also remember
the story of the prophet Balaam and his donkey? You know, how the Angel of the
Lord was going to kill him for trying to profit? But then the donkey refused
to move? And then Balaam beat his donkey?”

Elizabeth said,
“I shore ‘nough do. I love that story!”

“You do
not,” said Virginia.

“No, I really
do,” said Elizabeth.
“It has a moral. It means we shouldn’t abuse the gifts God gives
us.”

“True,” said
Chuck. “But from all indications, the gift of prophecy was not bestowed
upon this false prophet. True, he is of the tribe of Judah on both sides of his family.
And remember, Jesus declared that John the Baptist, also of the tribe of Judah,
was the greatest prophet born of women.”

For I
say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet
than John the Baptist: ……Luke 7:28

“So,” said
Obadiah, “Let me get this straight. Both the lawless one and this particular
false prophet, well at least false P, R, O, F, I, T, have Jewish blood coursing
through their veins.”

“Yes, of
course,” said Chuck. “While we’ve talked about the lineage
of the lawless one and even how we think his father’s side should go back
all the way to Solomon and the Queen of Sheba, people have actually run his
lineage all the way back to Solomon on his mother’s side. But he
isn’t a full blooded Jew. However, this false prophet has Jewish blood
on both his mother’s and father’s side.

“Okay,” said
Virginia.
“I’m confused. I thought you said that the lawless one is the 3rd
and not the 4th horseman. Yet that doesn’t leave anyplace to
put the false prophet. And then you start spelling it as if it was profit from
money. The guy you are talking about may have made billions but the lawless
one is in charge of trillions.”

“True,” said
Chuck. “Which means the false P, R, O, F, I, T would be on a world-wide scale
well over a thousand times greater than this other person. We’ve already
seen in the last two years massive out of control spending by the United States
government that dwarfs the previous years spending. And we’ve seen the
printing presses going wild. This can only lead to the dollar becoming
worthless. And any securities redeemable in US dollars will become worthless
as well. We already know the US
has had to sign away to the Chinese government its parks and public lands as
collateral against its greenback. And the only reason we haven’t seen
the complete collapse of the US dollar is because it is the reserve currency of
the World. And as they say, when the US sneezes, the World catches a
cold.

Dave said, “Sure
brings into perspective how the third horseman is described in terms of how
much it costs to buy food. I believe it’s like a days wages for a small
amount of grain. Here let me pull it up and read it.”

And
when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see.
And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of
balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say,
A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and
see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.Revelation 6:5-6

Chuck said, “You
can see my dilemma. The lawless one sure fits being the third horseman, and
for many reasons not just this one.”

Obadiah said, “So
how did you have everything in your original play?”

Chuck said, “Well,
before the producers and the money people and everyone got involved I had the
false prophet making a false profit, F, I, ,T, and giving over 6 billion of his
ill gotten gain to the Democratic National Committee which assured the
election of the lawless one. I had a scene where Jesus was hailed as King of
Kings and the next where he gets violently mad at the money changers in the Temple, fashions a whip,
drives them out, and overturns their tables. I had this verse being
read.”

And
when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple,
and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew
the tables; John 2:15

Obadiah said,
“Jesus was the Prince of Peace. Well actually He IS the Prince of
Peace. Yet this is the only time I know that He did get violently, physically,
mad.”

Chuck said,
“Exactly. He got physically mad at the money changers for their ill
gotten gain, their false profit. They were exchanging money from Jews who had
come from all around the world to celebrate the Passover that week at the Temple in Jerusalem.
These Jews had money from all around the world. They needed animal sacrifices
that could only be purchased with local money, the type the money changers were
exchanging.”

Stuart said,
“I’m sure the exchange rates were particularly steep right before Passover.”

“Yes,” said
Chuck. “That is exactly what they did. They manipulated the exchange
rates of currency from around the world to make money. And that is exactly how
the false prophet has made billions of dollars of false profit.”

Elizabeth said,
“That’s what I like to see. Taking the present back to the Bible.
History repeating itself. To think, Boy, Jesus getting violently mad. The
only time I can think of him getting violently mad. And money buys influence,
today just as it did back then. No wonder Jesus was crucified that same
week.”

Chuck said, “Money
does buy influence. Tell me about it. That’s why I’ve had such a
hard time getting my play produced. Do I change my play to get it produced?
But if I don’t, will it ever be seen by the public?”

Dave asked,
“Isn’t it better to have part of the truth come out than none at
all?”

Obadiah said, “I
don’t know. Is a half-truth better than no truth? Won’t a
half-truth deceive so the person will no longer receive the whole truth?
Doesn’t a vaccine introduce part of a virus or a dead virus so the person
is no longer affected by the real virus?”

Virginia said,
“So, Chuck, in your original play you had the false prophet who prepared
the way for the lawless one. And you had the lawless one being the third
horseman. So, who did you have as the fourth horseman.”

Chuck said, “I had
as the fourth horseman, the dragon, the serpent, the green reptile.”

Stuart chuckled,
“I’m sorry. I was just picturing this giant green talking
lizard.”

Virginia said,
“You’re thinking of the TV commercial.”

Stuart said, “Yes,
with a British accent, or is it Australian?”

Obadiah said,
“Seriously you guys. I had figured this out from the unholy trinity
Chuck had showed us with satan, who is the serpent, who is the dragon, at the
bottom.”

Chuck said, “Well,
according to the timetable I had in my play, the third horseman would confirm a
covenant with many at the 7 year countdown mark on October 29, 2008. I was
able to identify the third horseman by looking at that date. Then the fourth
horseman would reveal himself to his brethren at the 5 year countdown mark on
October 19, 2010. I have not been able to identify yet the fourth
horseman.”

Elizabeth said,
“Maybe because you aren’t one of his brethren.”

Chuck said,
“That’s a good point. That makes me feel better anyway. Maybe I
shouldn’t be doubting my ideas for the third and fourth horseman. Maybe
I shouldn’t be entertaining the idea of forcing the false prophet into
the position of the third horseman.”

Stuart said, “So
how do we decide who is the third and who is the fourth horseman?”

“Simple,”
said Elizabeth,
“We look at the first and second.”

Chuck said, “Elizabeth, you are exactly
right!”

Dave said, “You
know, I’ve mentioned James Harrison’s book “The Pattern &
The Prophecy” before. I remember him devoting quite a bit of time to the
first and second horseman, Napoleon, and Hitler. He calls them the two
antichrists or beasts of modern times, but not the ultimate antichrist. Here, it
will only take me a second to look it up. Oh yeah, I found it on page 280. He
starts off by saying under the section titled, “Hitler and
Napoleon” the following:”

We have seen the Antichrists of the ancient world: Cheops,
Nimrod, Semiramis, Nebuchadnezzar, Alexander, Nero, and the Roman
Empire. Now we will investigate two beasts of modern times:
Hitler and Napoleon.

Dave continued,
“He goes on to say on page 283:”

·The parallels between
these two sons of satan began at birth. Napoleon wasn’t French; he was
born on the island
of Corsica and always
spoke French with an Italian accent. Hitler wasn’t German, he was
Austrian; he spoke High German with an Austrian accent. For that matter,
Alexander wasn’t completely Greek; he was Macedonian, and he always spoke
in a Greek dialect.

“Boy,” said
Stuart. “Look at the parallels. We know the lawless one isn’t
American, being born in Kenya
and then going to grade school in Indonesia. He would have had
British citizenship through his father. We also know he visited foreign
countries as a young adult that were off limits to Americans. So he had to
have a passport as a citizen of another country. He also lived on an island growing
up, like Napoleon. Well, two when you count Hawaii. That sure fits.”

Chuck said, “And
the one I had originally as the 3rd horseman, the possible false
prophet isn’t American either. Plus he’s connected in several ways
to the 2nd horseman, Hitler. See, Hitler was born in Austria-Hungary, which later became Austria.
This original false prophet was born in Hungary. Then, as a teenager while
his Dad spent time as a Jew in prison, he actually assisted with confiscation
of Jewish property. There’s another parallel as well. He is also lived
on an island growing up, but one close enough to the mainland where his Dad
would take a rowboat from the island each day to work.”

“Very good
points,” said Dave, let me read on:

·By 1812 Napoleon was
the master of Europe; and in 1942 Hitler was dictator of Europe.
The former tried to impose his Continental Monetary System; the latter forced
his New Order Economics for buying and selling on a defeated continent. Sound
familiar? Aren’t we hearing identical phrases today? In each case Russia and England refused to fit into these
controlling webs of economic domination.

“I just
noticed,” said Obadiah, “We have exactly 130 years between 1812 and
1942. There’s that number 13 again. Although these are actual years and
not prophetic years like we have exactly 13 between the birth or Ray Mabus and
the birth of the lawless one. Let’s see, the lawless one was elected
president of the most powerful country in the world in 2008. And from 1942 to
2008 is 66 years. Now what kind of coincidence is that?”

Dave said, “Also,
very good points. There are a lot of parallels here in this book. I
don’t know how many will continue with the lawless one. One that was of
interest to me was the one about the summer solstice.

·Each Beast’s
decision to invade Russia
took place on the summer solstice – a satanic high Black sabbat.
Napoleon’s was on 22 June 1812, Hitler’s on 21 June 1941.

To mock Christ’s Millennial Reign, Hitler proclaimed
the Third Reich would last a 1000 years. The propaganda for this attempt at
reviving the Holy Roman Empire (the First
Reich) was under the masterful control of a second beast, Joseph Goebbels.
This false prophet organized all Hitler’s propaganda triumphs.

But the beast was captured [in the Bunker] and with him the
false prophet who performed the miraculous signs [propaganda] on his behalf.
With these signs he had deluded those [Nazi members] who had received the mark
of the beast [swastika] and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown
alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur [gasoline soaked pit].

Virginia said,
“So this guy is saying that Goebbels was the false prophet and Hitler was
the antichrist?”

Dave said, “I don’t
think that is what this guy is saying.”

Virginia said,
“Well that is how it sounded to me. Now are we to expect Hitler’s
deadly head wound to be healed and they’ll bring him back to life like
Jesus Christ was brought back to life? Maybe they already have?”

Dave said, “No, I
really don’t think so. I realize some think that all ideas are equally
valid, especially if there is no evidence to the contrary. But I’m certainly
not among them. I also realize that the wilder the idea, the more likely for
some to accept it. “

Obadiah said,
“Hey, that’s like Hitler’s idea of telling a big lie because
that is more believable to people. The reasoning being that these people can
image someone telling a small lie since they tell small lies, but it is beyond
their comprehension that someone would tell a big lie, because they
wouldn’t.”

Virginia said, “But
you can’t just dismiss this idea.”

“Okay,” said
Dave. “We can’t just dismiss it. But from everything else he is
saying, both Napoleon and Hitler are antichrists that lead up to the final
antichrist. And his analogy of the swastika being a mark of the beast is
interesting. In a sense they needed it to buy or sell. And then the hexagram
that was placed on the Jews didn’t allow them to buy or sell and actually
marked them for death. Since Chuck is using stars in the shape of a hexagram
as the mark of the beast, we have another tie-in with Hitler, but we
don’t have Hitler.

Obadiah said, “And
you don’t see his name equaling 666.”

Dave said, “Funny
you should mention that. Cause this book now gets into how both the names Napoleon
and Hitler can equal 666. He first refers again to Tolstoy and
Napoleon’s Russian campaign in the third volume of War and Peace, chapter
19. Basically, it says that Tolstoy is treating the French alphabet in a
similar way to the Hebrew enumeration. However it looks like he skips the
letter “J”. It also looks like he counts by 1’s up to 10,
then 10’s, up from there. The Hebrew enumeration stops counting by
10’s once it reaches 100. Then counts by 100’s. Well, I guess it
is close.

“I think,”
said Virginia.
“It says that the name “Napoleon” equals 666 using this
code.”

Dave said, “Okay,
actually it uses his title in French also, so the complete phrase is, “Le Empereur Napoleon”.

Virginia said,
“I don’t mean to be argumentative but where do they get off leaving
out the “J”? I happen to know French and it has the same exact
alphabet as the English. Why, the Norman French even conquered England
at one time. All our English kings, the French, English, well even some of the
German’s, are related.”

Dave said, “I
don’t know. Maybe the language was different 200 years ago. Here let me
search the internet for, well it was probably called “middle
French” like we have “middle English.” Okay, looking up
“middle French alphabet”. Let me scan this. Okay, I found
something at Wictionary.org. Let me read it..

The
Middle French alphabet uses 25 letters, the 26 letters of the Modern French
alphabet, minus the j which is written as an i.

Virginia said,
“Let me see that. Okay, I see that. But look here, it says the break
between Middle French and Modern French was around 1600 AD. Although the way
this reads, it sounds a little vague. But regardless, you still have to keep
counting by 10’s after 100 to make it work, instead of switching to
counting by 100’s. I’d like to see it with the current code.

Dave said,
“That’s easy to do”, as he pulled up his code converter. Dave
continued, “Typing in “Le
Empereur Napoleon” it comes to well, look at that, 966.

They all crowded around
to look at Dave’s computer screen. Obadiah said, “an upside down
six followed by two right-side up ones. That’s pretty close for an
antichrist leading up to the antichrist.”

Dave said, “Well,
let’s just try Napoleon. Okay, that’s 266. Boy sure a lot of
66’s. But I’d like to add in Tolstoy’s defense he uses the
same alphabet again with the same result. Here look at Napoleon.”

L
E E M P E R E
U R N A P
O L E O N

20 5 + 5 30 60 5 80 5 110 80 + 40 1 60 50 20 5 50 40 = 666

Dave said, “Now
look in this book at how Tolstoy added up “quarante-deux”
which means 42, the number of months that God will allow the
antichrist to rule, to also equal 666.”

Q U A R A N T E – DE U X

70 110 1 80 1 40 100 5 + 4 5 110 140 = 666

Dave continued, “And
then he brings up another code for getting Hitler starting with A=100 and
counting by 1’s. Look at this.”

Chuck said,
“Thanks Dave. That really brings us up to the present day with the
lawless one, the third antichrist, the third horseman.”

“That reminds
me,” said Obadiah, “What happened to the fourth horseman? Chuck, how
are you covering that in your play?”

“Oh, the green
horseman,” said Chuck. “Although the King James uses the word “pale”.
But then the King James turns around and uses the word “green”
elsewhere for the same Greek word. It’s also the same Greek word we get
our English word, “chlorophyll”. You, know the green substance in
plants. Although when green plants die they do turn pale.”

Obadiah said, “The
green horseman, the pale horseman. We already have a white horseman which isn’t
much different than pale. So maybe the correct translation is green.”

“Who knows,”
said Stuart.

“Who cares,”
said Virginia,
almost under her breath.

Dave said, “So
Virginia, the color makes no difference to you?”

Virginia said,
“I don’t see how the color helps us in identifying the last
horseman.”

Obadiah said, “It
did with the first three.”

Chuck
said, “Well,
you know how Daniel says that the people of the prince that shall come
shall
destroy Jerusalem.
We know the Romans destroyed Jerusalem.
So, there are many who think the British Empire is the rightful heirs
of Rome, the destroyer of Jerusalem. The people of the prince are
British so the prince that is to come will be British.”

Obadiah said, “The
British Monarchy sure seems to think so, anyway.”

Chuck continued, “So
what is part of Great
Britain called but the Emerald Isle? And
where is considered the epicenter of the International Date Line but in Greenwich, England?
Even the name gives it away. You know, Green Witch. A play on words.

“Cute,” said
Stuart

Chuck said,
“It’s not just cute. It’s serious. But then there are those
who believe the last horseman really will be green. More precisely he is
believed to be Nimrod who by some accounts was 2/3rds alien demon and 1/3rd
human. The only scenario that seems possible from a reproduction standpoint is
if the genetic material was somehow manipulated to create a 2/3rds alien or
66.6%, and 1/3rd human or 33.3%.”

Stuart said,
“There are those numbers again, 666 and 333.”

Obadiah said, “This
sure sounds like satan in some evil way trying to one-up God. You know, Jesus
Christ being considered only half Creator God and then half human. What would
it have to be? I was thinking Man has a double helix DNA. Wouldn’t this
have to be genetic manipulation somehow into a triple?

Elizabeth said, “Don’t
know if I go in for all this alien stuff.”

Dave said,
“Don’t know if we will really know until they are revealed. We do
know there are demons. Whether they can actually procreate and did, is a good
question. Whether this is where the giants came from, the titans, which by the
way the word “titan” in the Greek has a number equivalency of 666,
who really knows. They could have been Cain’s seed. All we know is
there were giants in the land.”

Chuck said, “That
is true, I would point out though that what differentiates males from females
is that males have an X and a Y chromosome while females have two X
chromosomes. However, there are males genetically born today that have two Y
chromosomes and an X. Studies have been conducted as to whether this
predisposes them to violence. There are a disproportionate number of these
males in prison. However there are others that have been able to lead
productive lives. So instead of the actual helix being somehow a triple, we
could just be talking about two Z chromosomes and then an X. The bottom line in
my book is as in the days of Noah, well let me read the verses I have in my
notes.”

There
were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of
God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same
became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. And God saw that the
wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the
thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. Genesis 6:4-5

But
Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. Genesis 6:8

But as
the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Matthew 24:37

Chuck continued, “The
bottom line is that we would expect a tall person, although height is
relative. We have people alive now at over 8 feet tall. Let me look at my
notes. Okay I see Goliath of the Bible was around 9 ½ feet tall if you use 18
inch cubits or 13 ¾ feet tall if you use 25.2 in cubits. However, I still
noticed a progression in height among the 4 horsemen. Napoleon still holds
supreme as being the prime example of “short man syndrome”. Yet there
is some disagreement whether he was 5’ 2” or 5’ 6”.
You see, his French physician reported at his death that he measured 5’
2” tall. But some think these were in French inches, slightly larger
than British inches. This would be equivalent to around 5’ 6”
British. However, his death certificate was cosigned by several British
attending physician witnesses. Would they have allowed the measurements of
this French tyrant to have been stated in anything but British units? Doesn’t
matter, I heard they have a full length desk mask of him anyway that measures
around 5’2” to 5’ 3”.”

Dave said, “You
are just full of facts. So how tall was Hitler?”

Chuck looked down at the
paper in front of him. “He was, let’s see, around 5’
8”. And then, I’ve got the lawless one in my play as being
6’ 1” tall.”

Obadiah said, “Let
me throw this one out. I notice each of the second and third horsemen around 5
inches taller than the previous. So, following the same projection we have the
final antichrist as being, 6’ 6”. See the double 6’s.”

Chuck said, “Good
speculation Obadiah. However, Nimrod was reported as being considerably
taller. Maybe 9’ 9”, who knows. But lets go on to his other
qualifications. Remember how it looks like all three horsemen spent much of
their childhood growing up on islands? Well Nimrod grew up on the island of Crete. There you go.”

Dave said, “And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast
rise up out of the sea. That’s from the 1st verse
in Revelation 13.”

Chuck continued, “Very
good Dave. I was also going to point out that Nimrod is said to have died from
a head wound. You wouldn’t happen to remember that verse?”

“Not off the top of
my head,” said Dave. “Oops. Sorry. Bad taste. Didn’t mean
to say that.”

Virginia said,
“I don’t get it.”

Dave said, “Never
mind.”

Chuck said,
“I’ve got the reference on my paper. I’ll read it.”

And I
saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was
healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. Revelation 13:3

Chuck said, “So if
he came back to life, even if they used genetic manipulation to insert his DNA
into a donor, his head wound would in a sense be healed.”

“Wild
speculation,” said Virginia.

Chuck said, “Now
you see why I wrote a play on the lawless one instead of the green, or should I
say, pale prince.”

Obadiah said, “He
would be pale if he were dead no matter what his original skin color.”

Chuck said,
“Reading on, I’ve got the following verses and list.”

And
there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet
come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. And the beast that
was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into
perdition.Revelation
17:10-11

Chuck continued, “Now
one interpretation is these are not just kings but kingdoms and by incorporating
the kingdoms prophesied in Daniel we have the following empires in the
following order”:

1.Egypt

2.Assyria

3.Babylon

4.Medo-Persia

5.Greece

6.Rome

7.“Holy”
Roman Empire / Spanish / French / British /
German Empires?

Chuck stopped and looked
around and then said. “Rome,
as the Iron in Daniel’s statue seems to continue till the end of this age
in one form or another. As some have noted, the “Holy” Roman
Empire was neither “Holy” nor particularly Roman, although it
contained many of the same countries as Rome.
It definitely persecuted the Saints as documented in Foxe’s Book of
Martyrs. But then after this we have the British empire
which cannot be excluded as it was the largest empire in all of history. That
should qualify it for something. And the effects of this kingdom are still
felt to this day in that the world has now one main language in which best to
communicate, that being English. And the last one I have on this list is.”

8.Revived Roman Empire?

Chuck looked up from his
paper and looked around. Everyone was looking intently at him. Chuck
continued. “The first reason I had the revived Roman Empire is because
that is the popular belief because the last empire could belong to the prince
that is to come whose people destroyed the Temple in 70 AD. While the second reason is
because we are still in the iron of Daniel’s Kingdom Man, although maybe iron
mixed with clay.”

Stuart said, “Well
that is pretty close to what I’ve heard throughout the years.”

Chuck said, “True,
however another way to look at this is these really could be kings.
Furthermore all these kings could be antichrists leading up to the final
antichrist. So, we should look for kings throughout history who set out to
destroy God’s plan for the salvation of His people. Anyway, the list
I’ve compiled for this is:”

8.Nimrod
– The Assyrian -Will try to wipe out all Saints so no one left to form
Bride of Christ

Chuck paused for a
moment and then asked, “What do you think?”

Obadiah said, “Interesting!”

Dave said,
“Definitely thought provoking. I saw where you also slipped in without
really discussing it about Nimrod being “the Assyrian.”

“Yes,” said
Chuck. “There is so much in the Bible dedicated to discussing the
Assyrian. One of my favorites is in Micah where it tells the story of Jesus
Christ who was born in Bethlehem, returning to the Mount of Olives, cleaving
the rock below him as foretold in Zechariah 14, after the remnant have returned
to Israel, and doing battle against the Assyrian, and winning. Here, let me
read it starting in Chapter 1 for background.”

The
word of the LORD that came to Micah the Morasthite in the days of Jotham, Ahaz,
and Hezekiah, kings of Judah, which he saw concerning Samaria and Jerusalem.
Hear, all ye people; hearken, O earth, and all that therein is: and let the
Lord GOD be witness against you, the LORD from his holy temple. For, behold,
the LORD cometh forth out of his place, and will come down, and tread upon the
high places of the earth. And the mountains shall be molten under him, and the
valleys shall be cleft, as wax before the fire, and as the waters that are
poured down a steep place.Micah
1:1-4

“Then, said Chuck,
“Let’s move to Chapter 5 where the birthplace of Jesus is
prophesied and the Assyrian is mentioned with nimrod.”

But
thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;
whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Therefore will he
give them up, until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth: then
the remnant of his brethren shall return unto the children of Israel. And he shall stand and
feed in the strength of the LORD, in the majesty of the name of the LORD his
God; and they shall abide: for now shall he be great unto the ends of the
earth. And this man shall be the peace, when the Assyrian shall come into our
land: and when he shall tread in our palaces, then shall we raise against him
seven shepherds, and eight principal men. And they shall waste the land of Assyria
with the sword, and the land
of Nimrod in the
entrances thereof: thus shall he deliver us from the Assyrian, when he cometh
into our land, and when he treadeth within our borders.Micah 5:2-6

Virginia said,
“Boy, my mind is about to explode. Can we table this and begin bright
and early tomorrow morning?”

Stuart said, “Fine
with me. It is getting late in the afternoon. Been an interesting day.”