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Hey, swim was thinking of trying some DXM this weekend and has found that a certian bottle of medicine has 50mg/20ml compaired to 25~30mg/20ml that most other bottles have in the UK (from this certain major supermarket). The only problem is that the first bottle with the higher concentration contains 15mg/20ml of Pholcodine.

Erowid pulls up nothing for this in terms of dosages but found this on Wiki. ''Pholcodine is a modified opiate cough suppressent (antitussive) that acts primarily on the central nervous system (CNS) causing depression of the cough reflex'

Anyone have any knowledge on this and how much is safe or should swim just grab a bottle with dextromethorphan only as it seems well suggested not to take any other type of cough suppresant.

Hey, look, all the drug companies always say that their new drug is 'nonaddictive' or has no 'opiate like effects' they did it with vicodin, oxycontin, pethidine even heroin back in the day. They always say that its less habit forming, no abuse potential etc. etc. but seriously, what about pholcodine? I have heard it has absolutely no effects. Could this be true?

oh just don't bother with Pholcodine. SWIM was on vacation in a country where pholcodine is OTC, bought 2 bottles a 20 pills and ate 30 Pills at once (one pill is 10mg) which is 300mg, and had absolutely no opioid effects. pholcodine is processed to morphine in vivo, however, only at the rate of 1%.

Oh, o.k., thanks. It was just out of curiosity. That would explain why there is basically nothing on it anywhere on any of these sites.
Pholcodine is otc here in Australia too, but SWIM never wanted to try it because pure dihydrocodeine syrup is also available, and that never let SWIM down [even in times of great distress].

yep, in this context, pholcodine is a lot like dextrometorphane or loperamide. technically it is an opioid, but it only has some structural similarities and only very specific opioid qualities (pholcodine only has a weak cough stopping quality and, in very large dosages, depresses breathing).

Oh, o.k., thanks. It was just out of curiosity. That would explain why there is basically nothing on it anywhere on any of these sites.
Pholcodine is otc here in Australia too, but SWIM never wanted to try it because pure dihydrocodeine syrup is also available, and that never let SWIM down [even in times of great distress].

Wha? Pure dihydrocodeine? Are you certain, 'cause Swim's never come across it. I'm sure he'd like to though!