Great hunting an fishing. Not sure about bringing mags in after a law passes. It might not matter if the whole country gets a mag ban. If i didn't have a son here i cant leave id consider CO,Montana etc.

Well here we are - half a year later and it looks like the move is going to happen after all. I'll know for certain "within 2 weeks". I'll be going to the Co. Springs area and after a few brief visits there with the Mrs. I think we'll be looking for some place to rent for the first year, save money up for some land, and buy some land far enough out of town where I can do some plinking from my back porch At least that's my master plan. Renting a small place, saving money for a year or so for a huge down payment seems like the most logical choice.

It isn't a certainty and they may choose someone local vs. me because it would save them the relocation costs. If that happens then I'm "stuck" in Va.

Either way, I am still planning to build a gun business. I'm waiting to pursue my licenses and permits until I know for certain, because why bother if I'm going to turn around and move and have to do it all over again.

Well pook,when you get to coming out here give me a shout.I'm in the Springs and know some people that you should talk to to help out with business a bit.
And if you can sign up on https://www.ar-15.co/forum.php? Its the local Colorado gun board and there are many good people on there willing to help out.
Tell em I sent ya

My X lived there on the Army base back around 1989. Her x was a medic in the Army. She had breathing problems while carrying her first child because of the thin air(she claims).Military Doctor told her to move back to Cincy to have the baby. I was dating her mother in law at the time. I,ll spare you the Jerry Springer story. But we hooked up in 1990 and produced four children and divorced in 2008. I was numbers 4 and 6. She is married to Dave now. He is numbers 7 and 9. I loved the Yorktown area when I was stationed there in the 70s. I use to visit the dance clubs in Williamsburg on weekends and chase the college girls.

Well pook,when you get to coming out here give me a shout.I'm in the Springs and know some people that you should talk to to help out with business a bit.
And if you can sign up on https://www.ar-15.co/forum.php? Its the local Colorado gun board and there are many good people on there willing to help out.
Tell em I sent ya

Funny you mention that - dad and I were just talking about how hard it would be to start a side business there vs. here to grow it into a full-time business. I would think it would help that I have lived here in Va. for 10 years to get "plugged in" to a business, vs. showing up as a new resident there in Co. and asking for a bank loan. One would think that at least... since now I'm a land owner, and if I move I'll end up selling and probably not have any land for the first year. Makes me think it better to stay here, or not sell and rent my property here.

I dunno... I still need to find out if this horse and pony show is going to leave the gate! LOL

I'll tell ya hcpookie, gun smiths here in VT are right out straight and you'd have no issue in starting a gun business around here at all. This area is really in need of smiths, there are very few around here and those that are,,, have a back logs of 3-4 months at least. The bull shit factor isn't an issue here either, VT still has common sense laws,good people,almost 0% racial issues, no gangs,and offers a great place to raise kids and to live, no permits to carry required, no gun registration, no mag limitations and many other great things. Jobs can be a bit tough sometimes,,but with you're skills in the firearms business you should have no issues. Once you're established around here you'd be hard pressed to find a better state to live in, these small Vt towns and the people here are pretty damn hard to beat!! Life around here is like stepping back 75 years and not having to worry about some of the stuff you'll run into in larger states/ cities. There is still "real people " around here. These small Vt towns are Awesome!!

Winters aren't quite so long or brutal around here either!! I'd been out to that area you're considering before and had considered it as a new home many years ago too,,but winters there can be a real bear!!!! I really didn't like the weather extremes very well there.

I've been wanting to get a simple gun re-cambering done and I have been waiting sense 12/2012 just to get it in the door,,, and one other I just need it drilled and taped for a scope mount,,,,now that's just nuts!!! 8 months +,,, WOW! And every smith I know is in the same boat,, right out straight! See,,, a new smith in town would have more work than they could possibly keep up with,,,,,plus you could have that place you want where you could step out to the back porch and dust off some rounds across-ed the South forty with no issue. Well other than maybe having the neighbor coming over to join in with you! Conservatively,, I'd be willing to bet 75% of the residents of Vt are gun owners, so even though a small state, there is per capita more gun owners than just about anywhere I can think of.

You should look this area over some before making a move, you just might like it here ,,I sure do and I'd looked at and lived in several places before I decided to remain a VT resident, but I was born here so I could just be a bit prejudiced !!

WELL it looks like I'm going! Supposed to be onsite full-time starting December 1st. May be travelling some before then. Not wanting to live out of a suitcase in a hotel so the faster the better LOL Will probably go on a house hunting trip soon... plan to rent for a year until I can get settled in.