due to a few things i have read plus some other requests i think it is about time to let the original shoe porn thread just for MTO and RTW and for those that want it HARDER - then we can have Bespoke only here.

so here are my few - sorry if you are a non G&G fran!! but it kicks the ball rolling, bring those Delos's and Cleverley's even dare i say it Paprika!!!!

Lovely shoes...I am particularly struck by the seamless whole cut And the skin stitched split-toes are remarkable if only for the workmanship and the degree of difficulty. In fact, I think shoes should be rated somewhat along the same lines as a gymnast or a diver...a pair would get a score for overal appearance, techniques and a multiplier for degree of difficulty. When MTO or RTW is done well it is pretty dern good. When it is done poorly it is poor indeed. When bespoke is done poorly it is disappointing at the very least, but when it is done well it is clearly on another level altogether.

Just different styles really. If you prefer more stylized bespoke shoes, then G&G is certainly the right call. If, on the other hand, you like something traditional and "correct", Cleverley may be the best place for you.

I don't know what to call those wine coloured Fosters ...Adelaides? Balmorals?...but they are very nice. The lines, the proportions, the workmanship! And the Russia calf are without peer. I particularly like the way the tongue is a little longer on them and the broguing on the tongue syncs with the broguing on the instep.