Comments on: San Francisco threatens to sue if the A's move to San Josehttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/18/san-francisco-threatens-to-sue-if-the-as-move-to-san-jose/
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Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:51:01 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbchbt/?p=2880#comment-17594Being shorter is no sin, if everybody else around you is taller, it is obvious you would like to to look taller also.
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Sat, 19 Dec 2009 09:53:49 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbchbt/?p=2880#comment-17593The “you owe us because of the taxpayer funded stadium” thing makes sense … except that the Giants’ stadium was privately funded because San Francisco wouldn’t pony up the dough.
(There were some concessions, like cheap bonds, but San Francisco is owed less by the Giants than any other city in baseball is by their teams.)
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Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:26:06 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbchbt/?p=2880#comment-17592I’m not trying to argue fairness necessarily, I’m just saying that’s how the Giants see it. And they key fact is that the A’s gave the Giants Santa Clara County. The Giants didn’t take it maliciously. And the A’s got exclusive rights to the East Bay, as far as I know, as part of the deal (I don’t see any Giants billboards anywhere in the East Bay). Now the A’s are suddenly saying they want the South Bay back. It may be fair, but it’s nowhere in the Giants financial interest to give up San Jose and the rest of the South Bay.
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Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:01:03 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbchbt/?p=2880#comment-17591

This is the kind of nonsense that has led to SF being labelled the worst managed city in the country (ok so why do I live here? For you folks back East, it’s 7:30 am, sunny, blue skies, about 60 degrees, moderate humidity. I’m 2 minutes from the Bay, 20 minutes from downtown (or AT&T Park) by train, and 15 minutes from the ocean).

Yeah but you guys have Earthquakes, and that’s fucking scary. I’ll take my heat and humidity, and occasional fear of a “winter storm” here in NC over the ground possibly opening up and swallowing me any day :)

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Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:48:23 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbchbt/?p=2880#comment-17590Jon M. Your pooint is well taken and proves the argument that San Jose is trying to make. Why should their residents have to drive ~50 mile to see a major league game, when they could see a game in the city limits? Why should the largest city with the biggest tax base not be allowed to support a major league team within its own area?
The move would be good for baseball, good for San Jose, good for the Athletics, and good for the Bay Area. The Giants would only take a short-term hit, but would have easier access to the East Bay fanbase and business. It would definitely put the two teams on more of an even footing in terms of attendance, and gate receipts. Then the competitiveness between the teams would shift to achievements on the field. Oh wait, maybe that’s why the Giants are fighting it so hard, because of the past 42 years that Athletics have done better on the field. Looking at the near-term future for both teams, that trend doesn’t look like it will change.
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Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:36:15 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbchbt/?p=2880#comment-17589City Attorney Dennis Herrera – U R A TOOL.
THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
BUH BYE
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Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:31:41 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbchbt/?p=2880#comment-17588Here’s a thought…put a better product on the field and your attendance will stop declining.
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Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:08:52 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbchbt/?p=2880#comment-17587The Coliseum may be closer to AT&T than San Jose, but the Giants’ real concern isn’t people. They do pretty well on attendance. Their concern is sponsorships, season tickets and luxury boxes. Outside of San Francisco, most of the corporate wealth in the Bay Area is concentrated in the Silicon Valley and Santa Clara County, where San Jose is and where all the big tech giants are. There simply isn’t that much money in the East Bay. They Giants want to protect their rights to San Jose because right now they don’t have any competition for those big, big corporate dollars, the ones that *really* pay the bills.
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Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:03:10 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbchbt/?p=2880#comment-17586This is the kind of nonsense that has led to SF being labelled the worst managed city in the country (ok so why do I live here? For you folks back East, it’s 7:30 am, sunny, blue skies, about 60 degrees, moderate humidity. I’m 2 minutes from the Bay, 20 minutes from downtown (or AT&T Park) by train, and 15 minutes from the ocean).
I’d call this total grandstanding by the City Attorney, but I doubt anyone in the city government, from the mayor on down, has the skill necessary for doing anything “totally”, except performing their assigned or elected duties badly.
Here’s a good example of our current municipal incompetence:http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/12/17/BA481B4ONT.DTL
This kind of thing makes all of us who live near SF just crazy.
I wonder if Giants Managing Partner Bill Neukom, ex General Counsel for Microsoft, thought this was a good idea.
Probably.
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Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:56:47 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbchbt/?p=2880#comment-17585City Attorney Dennis Herrera – U R A TOOL.
THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
BUH BYE
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Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:53:36 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbchbt/?p=2880#comment-17584

The city and county of San Francisco has a vital interest in making sure the Giants are successful and viable so they can make good on their obligations to the city.”

Devil’s Advocate here (and since I’m neither a lawyer nor an economics/financial expert), could this possibly have to do with loan repayments the Giants may owe to the city? By having the only game in town, if a fan wants to see a game they have to go to the Giants. However, if the A’s move there, they offer another option for a fan, thus reducing the gate for the Giants and, possibly, contributing to them defaulting on their loan payments to the city? This seems to fit on “making good on their obligations to the city”.
Or I’m completly off base and the guy is 100% nuts.

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Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:52:57 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbchbt/?p=2880#comment-17583Craig, I can say this now without offending since you are no longer one of “them”. Besides Politicians, Lawyers are the biggest contributer to ruining our country. Of course most Politicians began life as Lawyers so I guess it’s a wash huh? Lawyers are the largest group of people who benefit from the misfortunes of others ,along with ex lawyer Politicians. You can add talk show hosts under the two above. They benefit from exploiting the misfortunes of others on national Television. From rape victims to incest babies…… Such a shame….. Hey at least you wised up and became a journalist!!! You’re alright Craig.
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