Re: BottleRock Napa Valley 2014

Well, the name "BottleRock" was purchased by a new group of investors, so it's a completely new group of promoters this year. So in that respect, looking long term makes sense, and they knew the risk they were getting into and the probable losses this first year might bring.

Re: BottleRock Napa Valley 2014

Originally Posted by guedita

Well, the name "BottleRock" was purchased by a new group of investors, so it's a completely new group of promoters this year. So in that respect, looking long term makes sense, and they knew the risk they were getting into and the probable losses this first year might bring.

I'm curious what your opinion is in terms of their survival chances? You seem to be on the up and up (I knew about the new investors but I just mean in general in all these discussions). Do you think BottleRock will have a 2015?

Re: BottleRock Napa Valley 2014

The first Coachella bankrupted Goldenvoice. Look at them now. The first stagecoach festival was underattended, they gave away thousands of tickets for free to get people to go. Look at it now. It can take years to build a brand. Taking a year off from bottle rock would do more harm than good to the brand. Have to keep it consistent if you want it to grow.

Re: BottleRock Napa Valley 2014

Originally Posted by JustSteve

The first Coachella bankrupted Goldenvoice. Look at them now. The first stagecoach festival was underattended, they gave away thousands of tickets for free to get people to go. Look at it now. It can take years to build a brand. Taking a year off from bottle rock would do more harm than good to the brand. Have to keep it consistent if you want it to grow.

You do know Coachella took a year off after its unsuccessful first year, right?

Not every festival will succeed. All Points West didn't make it, and that was a Goldenvoice fest. Napa has competition, between OSL and Treasure Island (and possibly first city fest, and to a degree Coachella). Hard to tell what differentiates them. At some point oversaturation becomes a reality.

Re: BottleRock Napa Valley 2014

Which is why bottle rock needs to keep it going. They don't do it this year they don't do it again at all. Goldenvoice could take a year off with Coachella back in 2000 because there was no competition.

Re: BottleRock Napa Valley 2014

Originally Posted by Bumblebee

I wouldn't say that 3 headliners with possibly conflicting fan bases and a bunch of 90's acts is building a "brand".

Exactly. It's almost like they're testing everything to see what the reactions are and decide what direction to go in with future lineups. Wouldn't actually shock me if they became a more country oriented festival if Eric Church is a hit.

Re: BottleRock Napa Valley 2014

I spoke to a few of organizers last year when I went and they told me they want this festival to be a rock and country fest only. Obviously and unfortunately that has changed with the new investors. I was very impressed with the festival. I have never seen an inaugural festival go so well despite the aftermath of not paying people. I think they should keep it a rock and country festival. It is a great festival for Napa, the only thing that sucks is lodging.

Re: BottleRock Napa Valley 2014

Originally Posted by kreutz2112

A lineup that includes Smash Mouth, Third Eye Blind, Sublime with Rome, Blues Travelers, Gin Blossoms, Spin Doctors and Barenaked Ladies is not any worse than a lineup that includes Zedd, AFI, Skrillex, City and Color, Capital Cities, the Naked and Famous, Foster the People and Lana Del Rey. In 15-20 years, more than half of those bands will be lucky if they can pull a state fair gig.

Smashmouth were down to playing county fairs recently and not big counties either. Who knows where Tillamook county is ?

Originally Posted by Cpt. Funkaho

Man, the Beatles were overrated like gravity is overrated. ......... Say what you want, but statements like "the Beatles were overrated" make me much less likely to listen to anything you say afterward.

Re: BottleRock Napa Valley 2014

Anyone have advice on renting a house for this? There don't seem to be many/any options on AirBNB, and VRBO's a bit limited as well. I expected to see more houses out there; just curious if there's another rental site I'm missing.

Re: BottleRock Napa Valley 2014

Originally Posted by braundiggity

Anyone have advice on renting a house for this? There don't seem to be many/any options on AirBNB, and VRBO's a bit limited as well. I expected to see more houses out there; just curious if there's another rental site I'm missing.

It would probably cost you a ton to rent a house. Everything around the festival grounds is very much residential, so I don't see people putting up their houses on AirBNB. At least, that's what I expect of people in Napa.

Re: BottleRock Napa Valley 2014

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Re: BottleRock Napa Valley 2014

Originally Posted by braundiggity

Anyone have advice on renting a house for this? There don't seem to be many/any options on AirBNB, and VRBO's a bit limited as well. I expected to see more houses out there; just curious if there's another rental site I'm missing.

Just post up at the new homeless shelter behind Target...it's like a 10 min walk right to the venue...that place is bigger and nicer than most hotels/motels/houses anywhere within the city of Napa.

Re: BottleRock Napa Valley 2014

So now the discounted tickets aren't on sale anymore?

Looks like I'll be watching stubhub. Lowest tickets are $115 right now but thats lower than the $124 from yesterday. I feel like it will keep dropping but the fact that there are only 22 tickets available is kinda tripping me up.

Also, has anyone driven to this festival? Whats parking and getting out look like?

Re: BottleRock Napa Valley 2014

You're fucked for parking. It's in a residential neighborhood. Last year they offered shuttle buses from a parking lot outside of town (they may be offering that again this year, don't know). If you don't do the shuttle thing, then you're stuck trying to park at the car dealerships nearby which charge like 50 bucks for a spot per day.