Some have seen good gains... but thats not long enough... 8-10 weeks needed... BUT be prepared to loose your libido, may get depressed ,,,mental and physical fatigue... PCT is definately needed... I don't advise doing oral only... a small dose of test is needed if you ask me to compensate for the loss of your natural production of Test... 150-200mg of Test is usually good...

I just completed an 6 week tbol cycle at 60 mg/day. I made good gains, bout 10 lbs and shredded up some. Prolly about 15 lbs muscle. Great pumps. But im finishing up now, and in PCT and my libido is pretty low...Didnt really feel it till the last week though. Still great stuff though

BiggerGeek wrote:I just completed an 6 week tbol cycle at 60 mg/day. I made good gains, bout 10 lbs and shredded up some. Prolly about 15 lbs muscle. Great pumps. But im finishing up now, and in PCT and my libido is pretty low...Didnt really feel it till the last week though. Still great stuff though

Thanks for this info. I am actually looking at doing test -e (w/anti-e) with it, but thought that OT might be good on its own too. I am looking for about 8-10 lbs of "lean" gains per cycle. I'm in no hurry, & don't want to deal with bloat isssues either. Someone suggested an oral "spray cialis" for any libido problems that might occur. He said a couple of squirts does him good for up tp 48 hrs, his gf likes it too

two weeks into cycle and already up 10 lbs. i feel great. i am also running arimidex .5mg 2 X per week. i too only want conservative gains. i can't believe i have responded this well already. i have played around with aas a little before. i ran t-bol only and var only. i only made it 3 weeks into each cycle before i stopped using them. i got angry, depressed, and no sex drive. just like everyone said. that was stupid. got to have the test with it.

Libido problems are low on tbol alone, and I battle them with maca maca and nettle root, and ZMA before bed. I also take xyience xtest, its good shit and helps keep your natural test where it needs to be to keep a heatlhy mood and libido (along with the other natural supps I listed).

[quote="Iron_man"]Thanks for this info. I am actually looking at doing test -e (w/anti-e) with it, but thought that OT might be good on its own too. I am looking for about 8-10 lbs of "lean" gains per cycle. I'm in no hurry, & don't want to deal with bloat isssues either. Someone suggested an oral "spray cialis" for any libido problems that might occur. He said a couple of squirts does him good for up tp 48 hrs, his gf likes it too [/quote]Its not that bad...im still functioning and all. Just seems like I havent been as interested in sex..but its picking up quick. Just needed a little PCT. Cialis is cool and all if your pecker is misbehavin but it doesnt really help with the drive. Exept for the fact that it gives you an erection that you have to stick somewhere.