VINT CERF: Internet Access Is Not A Human Righthttp://www.businessinsider.com/vint-cerf-internet-access-is-not-a-human-right-2012-1/comments
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I had the pleasure of working with Vint as a member of his team at MCI. You will not find a more giving advocate of "Internet everywhere" or a more genuine good guy. His point is,and many of the commenters missed this, that rights are innate...given to all by God, our creator, or whatever you believe. They aren't legislated by man...our Declaration of Independence makes this clear. The Internet is no more a right than color TV. Yes both were aided and initiated with public money for research but these days Internet infrastructure, like the media is a business, not a right, it exists only as long and as well as those who toil to make it so find reward in doing so.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f072d8c69bedd280400001fjeffr42Fri, 06 Jan 2012 12:21:16 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f072d8c69bedd280400001f
The constitution asserts that certain rights flow from the Creator, and not from Man, to be granted or revoked at a whim, whether by the majority, or merely the strongest.
It is also true that having something as a right does not mean it's free. The constitution acknowledges a right to "life", but no one owes you a living.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f06ceddeab8eaf82b000088Janel FangmanFri, 06 Jan 2012 05:37:17 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f06ceddeab8eaf82b000088
The stats are actually overwhelming, the stakes will most certainly be massive, it really is tough to speak about and even more challenging to deal with it. Technologies, guidance, communicating... all of them compete with human nature. Plus each circumstance is different.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f06cec069beddc527000062Maragaret SheridonFri, 06 Jan 2012 05:36:48 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f06cec069beddc527000062
The stats are actually incredible, the stakes tend to be substantial, it is difficult to speak about and even harder to do something about it. Technologies, guidance, communication... each of them compete with human nature. And each and every circumstance is unique.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f06921a6bb3f7aa24000031Snake PliskinFri, 06 Jan 2012 01:18:03 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f06921a6bb3f7aa24000031
Human rights are won by taking the heads of the ilk of Vint Cerf.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f0608ed69bedd754400000eAlease MadrasThu, 05 Jan 2012 15:32:45 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f0608ed69bedd754400000e
Jsut another get rich quick scheme, I think.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f0607026bb3f71244000012Viola PerryThu, 05 Jan 2012 15:24:34 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f0607026bb3f71244000012
then that would apply to those toll roads, too!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05ef0b69bedd1a10000014Five finger discountThu, 05 Jan 2012 13:42:19 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05ef0b69bedd1a10000014
Perhaps access to decent sanitation should be a global human right. Have you ever tried to take a dump in a third world location like Guatemala or India or Fenway Park?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05e2e769bedd4c6c00003dDick Tater for PresidentThu, 05 Jan 2012 12:50:31 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05e2e769bedd4c6c00003d
All rights are made up which means there is no right to create rights and therefore no right to create governments.
The concept of 'rights' is used to continually expand government and any 'rights' that restrict government are attacked.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05d36b69beddbf47000039RightLiesThu, 05 Jan 2012 11:44:27 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05d36b69beddbf47000039
And the difference between basic right and basic infrastucture is . . . nothing. You seem to imply a "right" has to be free. Not. It just has to affordable and accessible. Like healthcare, water and sewer. Like the telephone comparision, laws pushed telephone service to rural areas when raw economics did not justify. This is no difference, once you're using government to regulations to push services to under served areas, the argument of it being a right or an "basic infrastructure" are irrelavent.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05b8a569bedd0813000034PatrickThu, 05 Jan 2012 09:50:13 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05b8a569bedd0813000034
I would assume that a good part of the internet infrastructure is funded by citizens taxes, grants or tax incentives, we have a right to the internet!
Unfortunately Americans have given up many rights to the things they pay for. No need to list them, because their response is always "well what can we do about it?".
The op-ed is lofty in idealism and intellectual pondering, but I want access to what I helped pay for.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05b2d869bedd0813000010Jessica6Thu, 05 Jan 2012 09:25:28 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05b2d869bedd0813000010
Freedom of speech is meaningless these days without access to some medium.
Access to the internet is the modern-day equivalent of access to a printing press, lampost postering or holding speeches in a public square.
It is also the greatest threat to authority in human history. This shouldn't even be a debate.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05b1eceab8eaf43f00002aFi your argument is complete sophomoric nonsense Thu, 05 Jan 2012 09:21:32 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05b1eceab8eaf43f00002a
to school you, the right to bear arms isn't the right to shoot people. But you knew that right? Because the right to free speech means you can speak, but then no one can control people saying idiotic things.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05ae7aecad04c70b00002awillien1derlandThu, 05 Jan 2012 09:06:50 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05ae7aecad04c70b00002a
technology may enable rights & I agree that access to the internet may not be a human right however TAXPAYERS fund the government facilities that makes the internet possible (research & development was paid for by taxpayers at least that was the last time I checked - the Department of Defense receives taxpayer funds) - consumers pay for the services & systems that comprise the internet - the government are REPRESENTATIVES & STEWARDS - NOT MASTERS! They do not own the tax dollars they are stewards of them - The founding fathers were smart enough to realize that power corrupts & the circumstances we find ourselves in is directly related to the lack of culpability & our representatives TRUE appreciation of their roles...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05aabfecad04f60f000006fi guyThu, 05 Jan 2012 08:50:55 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05aabfecad04f60f000006
Really? The constituion was written by acedemics (all of the signers were educated), not by ther will of the people (im not even sure what the will of the people means, a mob perhaps?)http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05a9f3eab8ea033a000016Fi guyThu, 05 Jan 2012 08:47:31 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05a9f3eab8ea033a000016
Ironically the right to bear arms is in there in order to have the means to resist the government if it is to oppressive. Does that mean the protesters at Zucotti park have the right to shoot at cops? Its in the constitution.
These things arent black or white, rather shades of grey.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05a97c6bb3f7ae2700000emaxxxThu, 05 Jan 2012 08:45:32 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05a97c6bb3f7ae2700000e
Rights are defined by the consensus and will of the people, not some pompous academichttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05a85d69bedd7607000005maxxxThu, 05 Jan 2012 08:40:45 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05a85d69bedd7607000005
Horsefeathers! People have any right they want to vote into law.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05a1afeab8eae02f000021WolferlThu, 05 Jan 2012 08:12:15 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05a1afeab8eae02f000021
Your US constitution is valid just in a very small area of this planet. That´s why you don´t have an argument.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05a077ecad045e7c00000dDylan LoveThu, 05 Jan 2012 08:07:03 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05a077ecad045e7c00000d
Second amendment, buddy.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f059d636bb3f7f07f000027yes, most scientists are madThu, 05 Jan 2012 07:53:55 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f059d636bb3f7f07f000027
there is a right to bear arms and it is in the constitution.
did you think that right "evolved" out of the constitution?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f059cc169beddd668000019mad scientistThu, 05 Jan 2012 07:51:13 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f059cc169beddd668000019
Lets add other things that also are not rights! To drive a car is not a right. To own a gun is not a right (although some Republicans will vehemently disagree on this). To own a cell phone is not a right.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f0599ffeab8ead727000001GregThu, 05 Jan 2012 07:39:27 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f0599ffeab8ead727000001
Agreed, not a human right. More like basic infrastructure in a civilized country...like roads, power grid, sewage, plumbing...now we also have (have had for a long time actually but it keeps getting more important) communications.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05993fecad045a70000015simon cfThu, 05 Jan 2012 07:36:15 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4f05993fecad045a70000015
Really? Think about China, or North Korea, where enabler of rights is non-existent or strictly controlled, and you would wonder what right really means to them.