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It's OK to leave the Knicks....

Ok, so I feel bad even posting this. I am not a Knicks fan, but don't particularly hate them. I'm a die-hard Lakers fan and proud of it, but I can't stand seeing you all suffer like you are. I'm writing to tell you that it is OK to abandon the Knicks!

First off, I am not a fair-weather fan. I'm a die-hard, grow-up-in-the-town-and-own-it fan. I grew up in L.A. and root for the L.A. Kings, Dodgers, Lakers . . . and here is the real proof: I root for the RAIDERS! Even though they thoroughly suck and left L.A., it just isn't right to abandon the home team - NEVER!*

*Unless you root for the poor Knicks. They are in the worst division in the league and barely treading water with a payroll that is, well, disgusting. Just think if the Yankees couldn't even make it over .500!

*It is OK, this one time, call it an amnesty clause, call it the "Alan Houston" rule, call it sanity, leave the Knicks while you still can. They are sad. If teams could admit they've made a mistake with the Houston rule, you can too, now man-up and say good-bye to a team so full of pain and confusion that a Laker fan can't even bare to watch it.

P.S. There is no reason to root for signing C-Webb. For the Knicks to sign a washed-up player who has nothing left in the tank and a huge price tag, I believe he needs to be a guard! Ouch!!! Sorry, but that just makes my side split every time I say it. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

Ok, so I feel bad even posting this. I am not a Knicks fan, but don't particularly hate them. I'm a die-hard Lakers fan and proud of it, but I can't stand seeing you all suffer like you are. I'm writing to tell you that it is OK to abandon the Knicks!

First off, I am not a fair-weather fan. I'm a die-hard, grow-up-in-the-town-and-own-it fan. I grew up in L.A. and root for the L.A. Kings, Dodgers, Lakers . . . and here is the real proof: I root for the RAIDERS! Even though they thoroughly suck and left L.A., it just isn't right to abandon the home team - NEVER!*

*Unless you root for the poor Knicks. They are in the worst division in the league and barely treading water with a payroll that is, well, disgusting. Just think if the Yankees couldn't even make it over .500!

*It is OK, this one time, call it an amnesty clause, call it the "Alan Houston" rule, call it sanity, leave the Knicks while you still can. They are sad. If teams could admit they've made a mistake with the Houston rule, you can too, now man-up and say good-bye to a team so full of pain and confusion that a Laker fan can't even bare to watch it.

P.S. There is no reason to root for signing C-Webb. For the Knicks to sign a washed-up player who has nothing left in the tank and a huge price tag, I believe he needs to be a guard! Ouch!!! Sorry, but that just makes my side split every time I say it. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

unless c webb is washed up (i think there is still a little left in the tank), with at least 2-3 year left on a massive contract (40/50m), I.T. has no interest...

we need someone on the bench, to keep the franchise company, making similar money... u know someone who has something in common with stevie... over the hill/overpaid, with lots of years left...

Ok, so I feel bad even posting this. I am not a Knicks fan, but don't particularly hate them. I'm a die-hard Lakers fan and proud of it, but I can't stand seeing you all suffer like you are. I'm writing to tell you that it is OK to abandon the Knicks!

First off, I am not a fair-weather fan. I'm a die-hard, grow-up-in-the-town-and-own-it fan. I grew up in L.A. and root for the L.A. Kings, Dodgers, Lakers . . . and here is the real proof: I root for the RAIDERS! Even though they thoroughly suck and left L.A., it just isn't right to abandon the home team - NEVER!*

*Unless you root for the poor Knicks. They are in the worst division in the league and barely treading water with a payroll that is, well, disgusting. Just think if the Yankees couldn't even make it over .500!

*It is OK, this one time, call it an amnesty clause, call it the "Alan Houston" rule, call it sanity, leave the Knicks while you still can. They are sad. If teams could admit they've made a mistake with the Houston rule, you can too, now man-up and say good-bye to a team so full of pain and confusion that a Laker fan can't even bare to watch it.

P.S. There is no reason to root for signing C-Webb. For the Knicks to sign a washed-up player who has nothing left in the tank and a huge price tag, I believe he needs to be a guard! Ouch!!! Sorry, but that just makes my side split every time I say it. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

This is the dumbest post I've ever read. You say a true fan never abandons the home team but you tell all of us to abandon ours. The only smart thing you posted is your humble advice for us not to root for a Webber trade. Every one is entitled to their opinion but to tell some one that their team sucks and they should find a new one is a **** thing to say. I think you are lost fellow. Go find a Lakers fan site.

I agree that what I said was crappy, and I'm sorry for that, but perhaps you didn't notice the asterisk. See, I'm offering you a "Fan Amnesty Clause." How great is that?

I really had to post something here, I was in a different place and a poor Knicks fan literally went off of the site administrator because he stated that Webber only wanted to play for a contender, and so logically the Knicks were out. I couldn't take it.

Well, I'm sorry again, but I guess my post is not for those without a sense of humor. And as I noted above, I thought all current Knicks fans must have some sense of humor, or how could you still be rooting?

I am a lost fellow, but only becuase the Lakers haven't delivered a ring for a few years - they will soon though - and they'll do without spending over
$100M on their roster.

Obviously I don't want you to stop rooting for the Knicks, just be aware that they aren't contenders and that they are the laughing stock of the league. That's what I realize when I say I'm a Raiders fan. I get it, but if you think the Knicks are good you are only dreaming and that isn't going to help your team. They need to realize they stink and then maybe they'll make some changes. Perhaps they could add Penny Hardaway or something, since they can never seem to have enough washed-up veterans

I'm not sure what to do with the kiss the ring thing. I guess I'll kiss the one I have on?

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Wow. I'm almost at a loss for words. Almost. So you have a ring now? Did you play for the Championship Lakers? There is no need to be apologetic when you continue making the same point. Ether make it or don't, but don't apologize for it. What can I say about the Lakers? You've got the best all star SG in the league and a legendary coach. We’ve got Thomas and a young barely consistant team. There's really no comparison. But understand that this site is made up of mostly knowledgably fans (with a few exceptions) so we are well aware of our teams status in the league and the Knicks financial situation. It is what it is. We all know we don't have a snow balls chance in hell of getting a title any time soon. Knowing that and still rooting for the home team is what's the difference between us and you. I use to think Knicks fans were bad about turning on their team but they are nothing compaired to the Laker fans. I never saw so many douche bag Laker fans at a Clippers game as I did last season. Now the Clippers are struggling and they are Lakers fans again. Did they use your Fan Amnesty Clause? We call that bandwagon on the east coast.

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Originally Posted by The 1 and Only

It's a wrrrrrrrrrraaaaapp. I'm done with you son. No one agrees with you...you're all alone, you make no sense, now you're mad and try to offend me and I laugh at every word you say. It's not my fault you can't spell frye LOL. You say the samething when you lose at an argument...oh it's sexual frustration, oh I'm stubborn, oh I don't make any sense. Well if you learned reading comprehension in the 1st grade then you would understand my point. Oh by the way...Dirk had 4 rebounds tonight LOL.

Now going back on topic. Isiah is building something great here. Everyone at the beginning of the year wanted isiah's head on a platter. Now we're on pace to win more games than LB, we have a potential shot at a playoff birth, Eddy is playing like an all-star, Marbury is playing like starbury, chemistry is building, David Lee is a pure monster, the addition of Jared Jeffries has improved us defensively, Q-Rich 3pt J is back, pride in the garden has been revitalized, team unity has taken place, and he doesn't have a plan?

You give up again? I even got Isiahsexuals who agree with me on this site. You seem really frustrated yet again. I got the best of you and you can't handle it. Even when you do your best debating you still make ZERO sense. You lost another debate, but you're still stubborn to admit you were wrong? I dominated you on each of your points, everyone agrees. Even Carpy or Chris are afraid to defend you because you look so stupid and uneducated.

Originally Posted by donchris

Hold up! Didn't we all agree to cut out the personal insults. Now that I agree with some one that makes a point that every sports analyst has made in the last 3 years you call that gay support. Do the research. Lots of people thought Dirk was soft 3 years ago because he rarely went inside. He often settled for jumpers. You can't get rebounds if you don't go inside. Now he's one of the most dominate players in the league and he's getting boards. I'm am entitled to a response to the gay comment so I'm thinking the metro in your name has nothing to do with metro cards. I think it's because your a metrosexual. A nice word for undercover fag bitch. LOL Ahhhh that felt good. Let's be clear. You started it. That's my response.

That was corny, how does a metrocard have to do something with gayness? You have to be a homosexual to know about metrosexuality. It takes one to know one.

Dirk goes inside, he's elite in the NBA in free throw attempts. You basically agree WITH me, stop being so stubborn and give me my credit. Carpy said something unintelligent, 1 and Only defended him and they both got owned on everything they said.

Dirk isn't a cupcake player, he isn't learning how to rebound. He's an established rebounder.

Anyway, since that debate was done and dead a long time ago back to the original topic of my thread.

Jamie, listen here. There are a couple of homer fans who lack knowledge and build a bad rep for Knick fans. They will say things like a Marbury/Francis back court will be better than Billups and Hamilton. Their problem is they're too attached to Isiah's preaching and have too much hope on Isiah and forget about the future of this franchise.

But this forum has alot of knowledgable Knick fans who can hold down a debate reasonably.

I understand my favorite franchise in the NBA is in a bad position right now, but we have a nice set of core players of Richardson, Lee, Balkman, Curry and etc.

The problem with Isiah is that he traded too many guys. Isiah has had 3 years to get under the salary cap, he had the CHANCE to get under the cap, but he refused to go that direction, instead he went backards. If he didn't make any trades and just draft people, get under the cap we would be in such a great position right now. Now we're in cap hell and have alot of untradable lengthy contracts.

Knicks aren't one of the worst teams in the NBA, we're improving slowly, too slowly considering how much money we're spending on the fools we pay to see every night.

Don't let DonChris get you into an agruement, he doesn't like to debate, he'll throw a personal insult at you. He's not worth to replying too, he's really an Isiah apologist nothing more.

Then again, theres no need to trash the Knicks here, its a Knicks forum, keep the hate out. Thanks.

Dirk isn't a cupcake player, he isn't learning how to rebound. He's an established rebounder.

I see where you're coming from now. You've proven only that you know how to read a stat sheet. According to the stat sheet Dirk has had only one poor rebounding year and that is his rookie year. Stats are one sided. Put the sheet away and watch some games. Dirk had an awakening a few years ago. Prior to that he was soft.

Here we go with the B.S. When I say we should keep Isiah because changing coaches will do more harm than good you called me an isiahsexual or some gay ****. But when I say that your name is gay (because it is) you say what does one have to do with the other. I say let's chill with the personal attacks then I agree with a fellow poster because he's right and you are wrong as you usually are, and then you play the insult card again. What's it going to be? You are clearly running out of things to say. You've beefed with every one up here and now you call 15 a hater. Get a life! You are like George W Bush. Declairing victory and ****. Make your comment and move on. Stop feeding off of what others say and come up with your own ideas.

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Originally Posted by donchris

Dirk isn't a cupcake player, he isn't learning how to rebound. He's an established rebounder.

I see where you're coming from now. You've proven only that you know how to read a stat sheet. According to the stat sheet Dirk has had only one poor rebounding year and that is his rookie year. Stats are one sided. Put the sheet away and watch some games. Dirk had an awakening a few years ago. Prior to that he was soft.

Here we go with the B.S. When I say we should keep Isiah because changing coaches will do more harm than good you called me an isiahsexual or some gay ****. But when I say that your name is gay (because it is) you say what does one have to do with the other. I say let's chill with the personal attacks then I agree with a fellow poster because he's right and you are wrong as you usually are, and then you play the insult card again. What's it going to be? You are clearly running out of things to say. You've beefed with every one up here and now you call 15 a hater. Get a life! You are like George W Bush. Declairing victory and ****. Make your comment and move on. Stop feeding off of what others say and come up with your own ideas.

You obviously don't watch the NBA since you don't even know who Corliss Williamson is. So there goes your credibility to watching games. You asking me to watch games is accually the most offensive insult I've gotten in here, considering its coming from someone with little knowledge on the NBA like you. Dirk is an established rebounder, this is a FACT. He isn't learning how to rebound, his numbers stay consistant because he gives you what he gives you, 9 rebounds on average. He isn't going to give you 15 rebounds every night, maybe once a game. No one said Dirk was the best rebounder in the NBA, cause that it seem like you guys were trying to agrue against when you're totally wrong. Saying "Dirk is learning how to rebound" is the most retarded statement in any basketball forum on the net, and anyone who's retarded enough to defend it or acknowledge it as reasonable should be consider as trolls. Learning how to rebound is NBDL status. Dirk is an NBA all star, and very talented. He's learning new things each year because he's a hard worker. But he KNOWS how to rebound the basketball. LOL, stop trying you fool, you will never win that agruement. Carpy gave up a long time ago. 1andOnly is too embarass to even come back in this thread and try to defend his invalid theories. You'll get shut down too, especially when you're the weakest of the 3.

You mad cause I called you an Isiahsexual? That makes me laugh accually, very much. It puts a smile on my face. Especially with all the garbage I have to read from you. Changning coaches will do more harm than good? We're 6 games under .500 This isn't a championship caliber team. You're acting like Isiah has established a winning team. Making a change now won't do anything you fool. You act like moving Isiah is like moving Popovich or Jerry Sloan. Isiah isn't a great coach, nor a good GM. Moving him would benefit the Knicks franchise. You're wrong again.

You sure 1andOnly isn't JUST a fellow poster? You two seem to be the Francis/Mobley of this forum.

You live in NC, distant from city life. You either don't know what a metrocard is or you're very country. My ID isn't gay. Like I said, it takes one to know one.

I don't beef with people online. Your life revolves around me and this forum. You spend most of your time on this forum riding my text. You're completely irrevelant and I don't talk your post seriously. Its gotten to the point where I just don't look at you as a Knick fan, just some country dude who's ashamed to be a Bobcats fan.

You're still bitching about me not coming up with my own ideas? How many times do I have to explained to you? The Francis idea was my own original idea. Why are you SUCH denial? Hilarious. If Larry Brown was posting here, he would call you delusional after each post. You seem mentally challenged or you forget things when you read them. I repeated the same thing to you over and over, you forget them so quickly! DAMN kid. You're either sitting or spending too much time on the computer and became brain dead.

Thanks for the Bush compliment though. I'm happy to know you look at me so powerful and dominant, but its kinda scary considering the kinda way you look into men. (Joke, lighten up don't get butthurt) You drop jokes on me, but I don't get mad or frustrated like you. I don't even take your comments on you. I'm dropping ether on you cause you're getting mad and can't post logically anymore, you're thinking stupid. Would you be doing the same if you made sense, hit your points and got me mad. But you can't do any of the 3, not even a million dollars. Sorry.

I love this...I simply just love picking apart every one of your posts because it has soo many idiosyncrasies that I think a 4th grader wrote this. Are you sure you're in college? I hope you aren't an english major LOL. Why do you keep saying I lost? Did you score more points than me? I don't hear anyone else backing up your statements....anyone......anyone out there?? LOL. Just pitiful...and to think I'm going to respond to your post. I'm real glad you took your lashes like a man. And did it take you that long to respond to my post? Do you lack intelligence to respond? It's ok...take your time. I'm tired of proving you wrong....so let's just have fun....
Here we go.....

"You obviously don't watch the NBA since you don't even know who Corliss Williamson is."

You're bashing him for that and you don't know how to spell Frye's name. WOW. You see the guy play every night...don't get mad LOL.

"Carpy gave up a long time ago. 1andOnly is too embarass to even come back in this thread and try to defend his invalid theories. You'll get shut down too, especially when you're the weakest of the 3."

My theories are invalid....then why is it 3 on 1?? You're always wrong...you're wrong on this forum and you're wrong with your radical movements and you wanted to trade marbury because you thought he didn't fit, you think frye is soft...yes I said frye not fyre. And you're going to tell me that you weren't one of the ones that weren't trashing eddy?? Look at this...

"Q-Rich is our best player, why would we trade him? We need to subtract our cancers before we trade for anyone.

"We are in need of inside presence? I thought Curry was suppose to be our Franchise big man? We gave up cap room and a number one for him, what happend? I guess another move that back fired on Isiah, and another sorry ass excuse for an Isiahsexual like you to defend Isiah on."

So you didn't say that?? Or am I not making sense? LOL This is making you look real smart right. So we need another big man instead of Curry? Did Isiah's plan backfire?? I'm rolling over here. And you really think you're doing some good trying to prove yourself wrong. You're killing yourself man...

How can anyone respect your opinion...not only are you wrong most of the time, but you can't even stand behind you're own opinon.

"There are a couple of homer fans who lack knowledge and build a bad rep for Knick fans. They will say things like a Marbury/Francis back court will be better than Billups and Hamilton."

Wow...dag I did say that didn't I....well I was wrong. And that makes me lack knowledge? No. Not being able to spell Frye every day means YOU lack knowledge. HAHA too easy man too easy.

"You live in NC, distant from city life."

Another ignorant statement. So their aren't any cities in NC? Last time i checked there were. And you have knowledge?

"I don't beef with people online."

You drop the N-bomb, you constantly go at people who persistantly disagree with you and you don't beef with people online?? And you have knowledge??

"This isn't a championship caliber team. You're acting like Isiah has established a winning team. Making a change now won't do anything you fool. You act like moving Isiah is like moving Popovich or Jerry Sloan. Isiah isn't a great coach, nor a good GM. Moving him would benefit the Knicks franchise. You're wrong again."

I'ma let other people argue this point for me....I really don't have to waste my time on this garbage LOL.

"Your life revolves around me and this forum."

No dawg. You're life revolves around ME. I say it's over yet you still want to go at it. You must love the taste of jock LOL. Either that or you love the sound of whiplash from your neck when I dish out knowledge faster than your mind can comprehend LOL.

"If Larry Brown was posting here, he would call you delusional after each post."

You serious? Oh I get it...the two least respected opinionated people on the forum stick together. Ya'll must be like Matt Bonnor and Pat Burke LOL.

"Thanks for the Bush compliment though. I'm happy to know you look at me so powerful and dominant"

If you didn't realize it...but most people want want him out of office...kind of like most people want you out of this forum LOL.

I'm having way too much fun with this...and even when I'm having fun I'm proving you wrong. You go enjoy your party cuz I got dough to spend...I'm sure you'll be here monday like usual...TRYING to respond to one of my posts. Loving the effort though. But try to take all the smiley faces and stuff out of your posts...my girls online don't put as many expressions in there messages as you do...and you have the audacity to call someone homo hahaha. Well I hope you have fun trying to responding to this and try to spell frye right next time...so I can stop knocking you on that LOL. And lighten up on your posts...just because you get shut down every time doesn't mean you have to get frustrated. GOOD LUCK LOL.

I Perhaps they could add Penny Hardaway or something, since they can never seem to have enough washed-up veterans

i think penny is retired, but i can assure you that our g.m. (I.T.), is working the phones day and nite looking for the missing piece... if only c. webb had 3 or 4 years (5 would be better) left on his contract, I.T. would have found a way to trade for him.. but alas he has only 1 year left, and phila bought him out, so I.T. must turn his attention elsewhere

maybe k-mart.. he has a large contract, over the hill, and as an added bonus he is out for the year..

on a lighter note, we are playing better this year, have a few nice young guys, and i predict that within the next 2-3 years (if the east stays as weak as it is now), we will be a force in the east.

You say that saying Dirk isn't an established rebounder is the most retarded statement. I say saying Curry and Crawford are trash players is the most retarded statement ever. Sorry man, I can't let some one with zero credibility question my credibility. The more you type the more you show your ignorance. Nice job pulling up my profile and seeing were I live but if you did that you may also know that I'm from Jersey originally, so I know all about metro cards. To answer your next question, why am I not a Nets fan, Prior to getting Kid, 70% of Jersey hated the Nets. That plus I always loved Patrick Ewing and even had the no name Ewing shoes. As kids we called them the E-Wings. Today, I don't wear E-Wings any more but I do rock Starburys. Every Starbury basketball shoe made. So my fandom has a Knick is unquestionable. I will admit to not knowing every player in the NBA. Will you? Most of America, believe it or not do not know who Jamal Crawford or Jerred Jefferies are. Think about it, if the games aren't televised and you are not a fan of a certain team how would you know? Even Kobe Bryant said about Raja Bell, "Who is he?" So some kid in North Dakota has no clue on who the hell Jefferies or Balkman are. Knicks games are not televised here unless they are playing Charlotte but I'm a fan so I know the team. So I am familiar with the entire Knicks line up as well as every other star, all-star, and second scoring option in the league. I don't think Corliss Williamson is ether. I could look up his stats but for what. So once again you've failed in your attempt to out wit me. I will admit I do find your posts entertaining. Kind of like a King's fool. It's funny how you are incapable of arguing a point with out personal insults. I'm just now starting to see that only 1o% of your postings have a real point. 90% are just insults and attacks.

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Originally Posted by The 1 and Only

You pick nothing apart really, you accually avoid my points when I shut you down. You're very quick to change subjects. You also had lost agruements very quickly and create new agruements that you lose on. I'm a college student, you're still in your diapers. I have a 3.5 GPA, where you can barely type in the English language. Who the hell is backing you up anymore? DonChris doesn't even make sense in his post. You're the same fool who thinks Marbury/Francis is better than Billups/Hamliton. You wouldn't even dare debate about that cause I would of crushed you. You did the same in this thread, I crushed you on every point, and all you can talk about my is on my typo on Fyre's name. PATHETIC really. It just shows you're immaturity and you incapability to debate. You're a disgrace to Knick fans, especially since you're not from NYC, atleast rep the Knicks the right way. Damn, gonna make us look bad all over the country now? I'm glad you don't go outside much, I'm just ashamed knowing Knick fans like you exist.

I took long to respond to your post? Like I said, I'm fully employed, I have a social life and a things to accomplish. You sit home all day on the computer waiting for me to reply to you. You look up to me. You should be thankful I even reply to your garbage. I'm a busy person, don't get envy or angry at me. Maybe you yourself should try to find other things to accomplish in life besides making yourself look like a complete ass on the computer. Improve your grammer, be more reasonable when you talk to people online. Present yourself like a man, and not like a faggot. I'm speaking with you here on complete honesty, cause you need it. I'm such a nice guy, I'm accually giving you advice on how to debate, and how not to debate. Hell, I ever tried to hell you make it a competitive debat in this thread by giving you theories. But yet you're too slow to understand anything. You never proved me wrong once, except on a simple typo, is that all you have to be proud about? LOL...enjoy reading this. I know you've been crying on your keyboard reading my text and feeling the pain of stupidty.

The monkey says:"You're bashing him for that and you don't know how to spell Frye's name. WOW. You see the guy play every night...don't get mad LOL."

LOL.

Isn't his name Fyre? You repeat my typo over Fyre's name a hundred times, but you're stupid enough to make it yourself? Wow, I don't even know how to reply to this. I think you're trying to present yourself as retarded as possible to confuse me and lower my IQ. Its an interesting theory, but if you're this stupid in real life, my apologies to your family. You're really struggling here. The Fyre typo was your only agruement man! Now you even lost that. What do you have now? I'm sorry, this is too funny. I'm DYING behind this comptuer. Its pure comedy. If you read through the last two pages, you can cleary see the monkey is defeated and all he holds on to is my simple error over Fyre's name. NOW HE MAKES THE MISTAKE OF FYRE's name? HAHAHA. Hey chimp, don't edit the post, you've been exposed yet again. Damn b, you're taking more L's than a pothead on 420 . Keep losing though, it makes me laugh, ALOT.

3 on 1? Carpy lost, he gave up a long time ago. More power to me. You? You've lost more times than Isiah's Knicks in this thread. You're not challenge for me. And DonChris? He's the worst of out of the 3, so thats not saying nothing. Basically, you guys don't equal me. And no one is agreeing with you guys. LOL, none of you guys are even from NYC, so you don't even know whats going on in the Knicks community offline. No one here takes you seriously, honestly. You all catch feelings mad quick and lack reason. Face it, all your theories have been proven NULL, and theres no way for you to provide an agruement to defend yourself. I'm basically bullying you.

LOL. He said "Frye" again. I didn't know we had a Frye on our basketball team.

Eddy Curry is consistant on offense, something he wasn't last year. He's still the worst defensive center in the NBA, the most turnover prone center in the NBA, and a poor rebounding center. He needs improvement, alot accually. We're not going anywhere if we're going to except Curry to lead this team. Get over it.

I think you've been proven so wrong so many times you lost all confidence. Your self esteem is at an all time no. Yes you aren't making any sense. Curry was traded for a buch of number ones, and cap space. Isiah excepts Curry to be the franchise player of this team, when he obviously can't lead this roster to the playoffs. Why do you think Chicago gave up on Curry? Curry isn't at all that, get over it. Isiah's confused plan with no direction did backfire, why are you so confused? I think I turned you from dumb to retarded. LOL, read that quote AGAIN. I think you don't get sacarsm. I'm starting to believe you're losing all your senses. Its like I'm chatting with a monkey online.

You was wrong? OF COURSE, its about time. You were wrong about most of the things in this thread and forum. Face it. You lack knowledge? I don't know, I don't really care. As long as you're not related to me or know me personally, I could live with happy.

The Monkey says"Not being able to spell Frye every day means YOU lack knowledge."

He said it again, he's just clowning on himself right now. I'm not even trying. I could honestly come in this thread and say "hey whats up guys" and win this debate. Its not even a debate. Its just the monkey making a fool out of himself.

NC isn't a real city, get ova it. NC is irrevelant to me.

N-bomb? I said ***** once, you got sensitive cause you're from the country. We come from two different cultures, we already went over this stupid. Why are you trolling more bull**** here now? Stop acting like a little kid, move on. Damn, this is really sad now. You can't even STAY on basketball. LET IT GO, stay on topic. You're boring me now. LOL, I'm glad you gave up on the Dirk agruement you got beat up on, not even beat up, you got SMASHED.

Why do you keep saying I got knowledge? I got brains from ya moms, so the answer is si.

LOL, no one will agrue for you, or should I said, no one that isn't stupid. You've been wrong on everything.

"Ya'll must be like Matt Bonnor and Pat Burke LOL."

WTF, does that even make sense? You're a chimp. His name isn't Matt Bonnor. If you're going to diss me, atleast spell the guys name right.

LOL, you're saying "dawg" now? Aren't you from the surburbs of the middle of no where? Look kid, I came from the hood and I don't go online saying "dawg" 100 times a day. When I first came, you had a vocabulary of 10 words, and dawg was one of them. Just stop it. You totally uneducated saying it, and you don't look cool. LOL, its 2006, most people dont even say that word that much anymore.

No one here wants me out of this forum except the 3 guys I constantly own on every threads. Its envy really, and I don't mind it.

What girls online? LOL you date girls online now? You're even more of a loser as I thought. I don't mess with girls online, I get the real thing. Don't hate "dawg", I'm just making the best of my life. You're too depressed to even think about sucess in your life, so you just follow me online. Like I said, your life revolves around my text. Once again, this was easy. Took 10 minutes to write up and embarass you yet again. LOL, I would be embarass to even log on in this forum anymore if I was you. I never seen someone get picked apart this bad. Even I feel guilty.

donchris, you lost all your credibility a long time ago. This is why I don't take you seriously anymore. If I have no credibility, why do you try so hard to debate against me? You obviously want to prove me wrong, but yet you fail. You have a goal to prove me wrong, therefor I must have some kind of credibility for you to look up at me competition. When in reality, I'm too much for you.

Crawford/Curry aren't franchise players. They are losing players. They were a losing combo in Chicago, and they are the same thing in New York. Crawford and Curry would be dominant if the NBA was 2 on 2. But it takes 5, and that is a fact. Curry and Crawford dominant the ball and are turnover prone. They hold on to the ball forever and click the clock. Together, they average almost 6 turnovers a game. They're not even 20 ppg scorers at all also, and they're one of the worst defensively at their position. They're not going to get it done. Maybe if Crawford was a 3rd option and Curry was a 2nd option, then we would have a chance. These two guys aren't the guys you want if you want to build a winning franchise. Chicago relized that and TRADED both of them. Guess who's winning now and who's losing? You can't be that STUPID to not answer that question.

Jersey and NYC are two totally different places. Hell the Bronx and Staten Island are two totally different places and they're in NYC. Like I said, I could really care less, you bore me with your life stories, on to basketball.

Most of America? Listen, we're talking about NBA fans, INTELLIGENT NBA fans, and you're not one of them. Just admit you're an ass and you don't even know who Corliss Williamson was.

Kobe Bryant knows who Raja Bell is you, you really took him seriously? You never heard of sacarsm? LOL, it was just a diss to Raja Bell, damn you're slow.

Some kid in ND can know about NBA players if they follow the league every 2 days or so. Not everyone is slow like you, stop getting frustrated and realize you're just not that UP TO DATE on the NBA. This is why you lack credibility.

LOL, you're just taking away from CREDIBILITY from yourself.

YOU ADMIT YOU DO NOT WATCH KNICK GAMES.

So how the hell can you even hold a debate against someone who watches all the games this season? You don't even know what the team weaknesses are unless you read my post or this forum. LOL, wow. These post are HILARIOUS. These guys sound confident from the start, but just LOSE all SELF ESTEEM at the end. They're beating themselves really as you can see. I'm not going to take credit for looking good here, if anything they're making me look like a God. You don't watch the Knicks, atleast watch them online or download their torrents. How can you have credibility if you don't even follow or watch your team? You don't even follow the NBA. Hell, atleast watch the Bobcats play. I honestly believe you rarely know little about basketball. You don't watch Curry or Crawford play, how can you even hold an agruement for them? I watch them play every game. I know their strengths and weaknesses without looking at the STATS. LOL, you don't even bring up STATS, and this is why I continue to point out how poor you on presenting your theories. Give me SOMETHING, STATS or from what you've seen in the game. Obviously you've seen little. Isn't 1nOnly distant from NYC? He probably doesn't even watch the Knicks either. LOL doesn't Carpy live in Canada? He has no access to MSG either. No one wonder why you guys agree with each other. You're all confused on whats going on. I watch this team play everyday, if you did you would agree with me. Unfortunately, you guys have zero credibility, knowledge of the NBA and are the Isiah apologist in this forum. It seems like people who least watch the Knicks don't hate Isiah. While die hard Knick fans like me have to suffer and watch the poor basketball every day.

You know the Knicks roster? I guess that makes you and a zillion other people in this world officially Knick fans.

Corliss Williamson is a scoring option when he comes off the bench, he's almost been. He has been reconized as one of the best bench players in the NBA in the last 7 years. Where have you been? You have no credibility to even be asked a question.

My post have points. It just that my IQ is lowered when I read your post or 1 and Only's post. When I prove your null theories wrong, you guys get upset. Chris, you got personal in here first. Don't play innocent now. Did I hurt your feelings and put your self esteem so low you can't even insult me back now? Ahaha, I guess you shouldn't play fire with fire. I don't insult anyone if they insult me. When I'm insulted, expect ether. You've been ether man, its just time to stop being stubborn and stop even replying to this thread. You're insulting my intelligence by posting stupid. I'm offended by that.

I'm done with you man, I feel greedy for even replying. I'm happy with winning an agruement, well it was really handed to me. I'm not going to go to back and forth personal insults. I got better things to do, as you guys already know. If you guys can't reply without basketball, don't even BOTHER replying or trolling the forum. As you see 1NOnly gave up on basketball and 98% of his post were personal attacks. I admit I was wrong for relpying back to his immature post, I totally admit that. I'm not stubborn to admit my wrongs. But I also try to keep as much basketball discussion in this thread. I feel if these guys continue to be immature to either lock this thread or give them a ban for trolling.