Yes, We TeaPublicans, along with Kristi Noem, ARE willing to hold obama’s government hostage until we get what we want. Why in the world would we give in and give up our hostage? All of you over the years have watched hostage situations on TV….and you know darn well that as soon as people give up their hostages they have nothing left to bargain with and they have to give up! We TeaPublicans are not as dumb as some of you people think! As long as we are holding obama’s government hostage by the shutdown….and as long as we are holding the debt limit hostage….we have bargaining chips to get exactly what we want! You smell that? Do you smell that? Victory, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. We TeaPublicans love the smell of victory in the morning!

Rep. Noem brings up very valid points. If Obama was really serious about ending the government shutdown he should sit down with Republicans and negotiate instead of the stubborn stance he has taken. I think it would be a reasonable compromise to set the individual mandate for Obamacare to the same date that Obama set for corporations and unions. Either that or their should be no delay for the unions and corporations. As far as the debt limit maybe a compromise could be made to allow a temporary higher debt limit as long as spending cuts are enacted at the same time. Obama needs to talk with congress now not after he gets things all his own way. We don’t need any more “We need to pass the bill so you can find out what’s in it” insanity. From now on we need to know what’s in the bill before it’s passed.

Noem doesn’t bring up any points, she says what EVERY Republican is saying (and none of their points are valid).
Obama has a stubborn stance?!! How many times did Republicans vote to repeal ACA? 43? Like some have pointed out that’s like the definition of insanity…keep doing the same thing and expect a different result, but now it’s twisted into a negotiation/compromise.
You want to negotiate? How about looking at Obama’s budget, how about looking at Obama’s jobs bill, how about a Farm Bill that isn’t passed at the expense of the poor and all the while complaining about entitlements, how about doing something about Wall Street regulations. How about doing something about all the things Noem ran on and forgot when the election was over.

Oh, kind of like Obama and Feinstein over and over again trying to pass anti-firearms laws through congress and expecting different results each time? Not going to happen. People are letting their senators and congressmen know loud and clear we don’t need new gun laws (they are learning that the hard way in Colorado). Enforce the gun laws already on the books!
How about Obama’s budget? Not even the Democrats in congress went for that. How about making welfare bills separate from the farm bill? Maybe then they could get something passed. I know for “true believers” Obama is perfect but not so much for the rest of us.

The Obama administration didn’t bring any control bills to Congress. He asked Congress to address the problem and they didn’t and that’s the point. The administration submitted a budget and yes it was rejected but Congress is the body that is responsible for a budget. How’s that going? Should the Farm Bill and Welfare be on different bills? Probably, but the thing is the Republicans removed welfare from the Farm Bill and SAID they would address it on it’s own but have no intention of doing so.
The Republicans have said from the moment Obama was elected that they would make it their “mission” to make his administration a failure and that strategy has gotten us to the point we are at now.
Colorado…yes, 2 small districts did replace Democrats with Republicans…we’ll see how this plays out for Republicans on a national scale.

Oh you don’t think Obama is putting pressure on Democrat legislators to introduce anti-gun laws or chide lawmakers like Senator Heidi Heitkamp who don’t march in lockstep to his wishes? Not to mention all the anti-gun votes Obama voted for as an Illinois state senator and all his anti-gun executive orders. You haven’t seen anything yet in Colorado. A third senator from a larger district is about to be shown the door which will give control of the Colorado state senate to Republicans.

Considering the vote against Obama’s budget was unanimous in both the House and Senate I think he needs to go back to the drawing board. He’s an inept clueless man who will go down as one of the worst presidents ever.

So Noem says what every Republican says huh? And I suppose that doesn’t happen that Democrat senators and reps say what every Democrat says. It seems to me there was very little dissent among Democrats when they rammed Obamacare through.

And what a proud moment for Colorado. They have had 2 mass shootings but they’ll show ‘em. They have a lot of good guys with guns that have stopped nothing.
Obama has done nothing with gun control. His record is terrible if you are pro gun control so I really don’t see what you’re problem is with him on that issue…he’s on your side (opps, can’t have that!!).
Congress does the budget. If’s he’s clueless they are mindless because they have come up with nothing but hot air.

I guess you aren’t keeping up with the latest news. Boehner is willing to make a deal on the debt ceiling. I hope they can get the government running again. Some of the things they’ve done like closing off highway pull offs to view Mount Rushmore are very obviously an attempt on the part of the administration to make the government shutdown as painful as possible. No employees are needed at highway pull offs. It costs more to barricade them than to leave them open.

The laws the Democrats passed in Colorado would have had zero, zilch, nada affect on the mass shootings. It’s not a matter of “Showing them”. It’s a matter of respecting the 2nd Amendment and the rights of law abiding gun owners. The only reason Obama’s record on gun control is terrible is because the American people don’t want any new gun laws and they are letting him and people like Feinstein know it. It’s not for lack of trying on Obama, Feinstein, Biden, or Bloomberg’s part.

I believe you’re wrong. Most Americans, most urban Americans DO want better gun control and that would be more of the population. Rural America (where I am) do not. The problems happen in urban America.
When you care about the 4th and 14th Amendment as much as the 2nd then talk to me about how rights get trampled.

Why did so many people conveniently wait until NOW to get hung up on who wouldn’t negotiate and when? Pay CLOSE attention to what Boehner admits here. And also take note of the way Stephanopoulos has to nudge him back to reality when Boehner attempts to minimize the situation by saying “there was a conversation”. He’s reminded there were SEVERAL conversations, their proposal was ACCEPTED, and then….THEY reneged on the offer.

Why? I guess they suddenly, (in July of this year), became aware of this phenomenon known as “Obamacare”.

Yes, very MUCH nudged back to reality. Their main talking point all along has been that the other side won’t negotiate. Well Gomez, the other side DID negotiate and even ACCEPTED the proposal they were presented with….which was far less than what they wanted. Then the group that made the proposal reneged on the deal. And here we are months later, and they’re the ones pointing their fingers.

Some questions Gomez: WHY was the proposal made? WHEN did the people making the proposal become aware of the giant threat of Obamacare? You’re delusional if you think it’s just about the money to Boehner & Co. It’s as much about sour grapes as it is anything else. If it WAS just about the money, there wouldn’t have been any such deal proposed in the first place.

Did you see the other links I posted over the last few days Gomez? You must have, because you were as on-board with the idea that it was the democrats not negotiating as anyone. You said it several times. Have you “discovered” anything recently that changed your mind?

Of course, once again it doesn’t answer anything. Simple question Gomez, why have you backed off of the “they won’t negotiate” rhetoric you were posting regularly? If it wasn’t the links I posted, (that you didn’t read…wink-wink), what was it?

What makes them “ridiculous leftist links”? How do you know what they are if you’ve, (according to you), not bothered to look? Do you think making statements, (the way YOU do), and then not offering up anything to support your assertions makes them more credible? If the links I’ve posted are inaccurate, why haven’t you posted anything in rebuttal, (including some links of your own), to support your view?

Lots of tough questions Gomez, that were undoubtedly asked in vain….because you’ll have no answers.

Here’s one more for you: Imagine we were both posting links on a message board, which one of us would be MORE likely to post a link from a website that is KNOWN to be biased?

Post a list of your favorite sources of information, let’s see how you do as far as seeking out accurate, unbiased information goes. None of this is for me, by the way….think of it as a learning experience for your followers. You could Google anything you wanted, and if your search returned ten hits, nine of which were the opposite of what you want to believe, you’d still hang your hat on that remaining one….no matter how ridiculous the source….because you don’t actually want information….you want to find things that support how you feel already.

I have seen many fabulous accurate links posted by other conservatives on Topics and the leftists routinely scoff at them. What is the point? I’ve seen enough of your links where I know what kind of leftist drivel they contain.

Teapublicans never can really argue heir point on any site. They do however like to post links to far right websites, even when the argument there has long been debunked. They furthermore like to make ranting claims that are not even their own argument. They also like to contradict themselves a lot. Example would be it is Obama’s fault the government is shut down and then take responsibility for shutting it down. These Teapublicans are simply angry sociopaths that never made it to the top. They have their stringent religious views that are in conflict with the rest of society. They then believe that everyone should follow their views.
When it comes to same sex marriage the states that have passed laws banning it scream majority rules. While when they are the minority they believe for some whacky reason that the minority rules.