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Heyo. I've been on a bit of a Cilan-shipping kick the last couple of weeks and I've been particularly appreciating SommelierShipping lately. I knew from the first encounter that this would be the type of ship I'd be positively disposed to *coughs and gestures to Slayers OTP* but I haven't honestly done much with it in the past. I'd like to do more and I've started by making some SommelierShipping graphics. I'd like to write for it at some point, but the fact that I watch the dub and am behind on watching even that always makes me paranoid about writing for anime ships ^^; Hopefully I'll get around to it eventually though.

Oh! The graphics:

I'll be using these eventually because I'm pretty pleased with how they turned out, but they're also free for anyone else to use if they want!

Ehmm... Let me try to take a crack at this discussion question (again, I'm running behind on the anime and it's been awhile since I've watched a Burgundy episode, so please cut me a little slack):

How would Cilan and/or Burgundy approach their feelings of affection to themselves and each other?

I feel like Cilan can see pretty well through Burgundy's "revenge" quest. To me, identifying her crush on him would come before he develops any feelings for her. He seems to take even her negative attention in as flattering a way as he can and in some weird way even... appreciate it. And through that appreciation he can start to see through to Burgundy's good traits beyond her glaring, glaring flaws (no disrespect here. I like her flaws) and that appreciation can develop into something more.

I don't think he'd actually approach/confront her with this, though. At least, that's my gut feel. It seems like he'd be more the kind to deal with her behavior with grace and wait for her to have grappled with her feelings and accepted them. I see him letting her make the first move, for the sake of her having settled how she feels with herself once and for all, and for the sake of her ego. Though I could also see him giving her opportunities tailor-made for making that first move.

As for Burgundy, I guess it comes down to how quickly she can go from "Stupid Cilan! He thinks he's so cool!" to realizing: "Stupid Cilan! I think he's so cool too, don't I?!" And then how she decides to act after she comes face to face with that fact. It's possible that her desire for the high ground might actually push her into accepting it sooner than later--in that if she thinks she's accepted her feelings first that that makes her "the bigger (wo)man" and allows her the air of superior maturity that she feels so often denied when around Cilan. But that's certainly not a guarantee and she could instead decide to fight it out with those feelings until its absolutely undeniable.

I'm honestly not sure how much her behavior would change if it got to that point--though I hope it's not an entire 180. I like her the way she is.

Heyo. I've been on a bit of a Cilan-shipping kick the last couple of weeks and I've been particularly appreciating SommelierShipping lately. I knew from the first encounter that this would be the type of ship I'd be positively disposed to *coughs and gestures to Slayers OTP* but I haven't honestly done much with it in the past. I'd like to do more and I've started by making some SommelierShipping graphics. I'd like to write for it at some point, but the fact that I watch the dub and am behind on watching even that always makes me paranoid about writing for anime ships ^^; Hopefully I'll get around to it eventually though.

Hello! Welcome to the family, Skyomi!

Oh! The graphics:

I'll be using these eventually because I'm pretty pleased with how they turned out, but they're also free for anyone else to use if they want!

How would Cilan and/or Burgundy approach their feelings of affection to themselves and each other?

I feel like Cilan can see pretty well through Burgundy's "revenge" quest. To me, identifying her crush on him would come before he develops any feelings for her. He seems to take even her negative attention in as flattering a way as he can and in some weird way even... appreciate it. And through that appreciation he can start to see through to Burgundy's good traits beyond her glaring, glaring flaws (no disrespect here. I like her flaws) and that appreciation can develop into something more.

I don't think he'd actually approach/confront her with this, though. At least, that's my gut feel. It seems like he'd be more the kind to deal with her behavior with grace and wait for her to have grappled with her feelings and accepted them. I see him letting her make the first move, for the sake of her having settled how she feels with herself once and for all, and for the sake of her ego. Though I could also see him giving her opportunities tailor-made for making that first move.

As for Burgundy, I guess it comes down to how quickly she can go from "Stupid Cilan! He thinks he's so cool!" to realizing: "Stupid Cilan! I think he's so cool too, don't I?!" And then how she decides to act after she comes face to face with that fact. It's possible that her desire for the high ground might actually push her into accepting it sooner than later--in that if she thinks she's accepted her feelings first that that makes her "the bigger (wo)man" and allows her the air of superior maturity that she feels so often denied when around Cilan. But that's certainly not a guarantee and she could instead decide to fight it out with those feelings until its absolutely undeniable.

I couldn't have say it better.

I'm honestly not sure how much her behavior would change if it got to that point--though I hope it's not an entire 180. I like her the way she is.

If I'm not mistaken, I'm talking about your writing and poetic skills.

Oh.

O///O

I think yes.

I'msuchahorribleperson

It's blushing time!

You could say that again.

She has red hair and blue eyes, wears a yellow hat and is all dressed in green

Now that I think about, she probably would be somewhat of an advice-giver...though I would say more so for Burgundy than Cilan. (Unless Iris of all people notices...)

Originally Posted by Skiyomi

Heyo. I've been on a bit of a Cilan-shipping kick the last couple of weeks and I've been particularly appreciating SommelierShipping lately. I knew from the first encounter that this would be the type of ship I'd be positively disposed to *coughs and gestures to Slayers OTP* but I haven't honestly done much with it in the past. I'd like to do more and I've started by making some SommelierShipping graphics. I'd like to write for it at some point, but the fact that I watch the dub and am behind on watching even that always makes me paranoid about writing for anime ships ^^; Hopefully I'll get around to it eventually though.

Hello Skiyomi! Glad to see activity on this thread that isn't just Night Flower and me.

Oh! The graphics:

I'll be using these eventually because I'm pretty pleased with how they turned out, but they're also free for anyone else to use if they want!

LETMYLOVEYOU Those are beautiful graphics, Skiyomi! Thank you so much!

Ehmm... Let me try to take a crack at this discussion question (again, I'm running behind on the anime and it's been awhile since I've watched a Burgundy episode, so please cut me a little slack):

How would Cilan and/or Burgundy approach their feelings of affection to themselves and each other?

I feel like Cilan can see pretty well through Burgundy's "revenge" quest. To me, identifying her crush on him would come before he develops any feelings for her. He seems to take even her negative attention in as flattering a way as he can and in some weird way even... appreciate it. And through that appreciation he can start to see through to Burgundy's good traits beyond her glaring, glaring flaws (no disrespect here. I like her flaws) and that appreciation can develop into something more.

I don't think he'd actually approach/confront her with this, though. At least, that's my gut feel. It seems like he'd be more the kind to deal with her behavior with grace and wait for her to have grappled with her feelings and accepted them. I see him letting her make the first move, for the sake of her having settled how she feels with herself once and for all, and for the sake of her ego. Though I could also see him giving her opportunities tailor-made for making that first move.

As for Burgundy, I guess it comes down to how quickly she can go from "Stupid Cilan! He thinks he's so cool!" to realizing: "Stupid Cilan! I think he's so cool too, don't I?!" And then how she decides to act after she comes face to face with that fact. It's possible that her desire for the high ground might actually push her into accepting it sooner than later--in that if she thinks she's accepted her feelings first that that makes her "the bigger (wo)man" and allows her the air of superior maturity that she feels so often denied when around Cilan. But that's certainly not a guarantee and she could instead decide to fight it out with those feelings until its absolutely undeniable.

Agreed. These things take time, and I can see Burgundy grappling her feelings for quite the while before she actually admits it to herself before anybody else. She's just stubborn like that *coughlikemecough*. Cilan is also a gentleman, and I can see him giving us the old, "lady's first", especially since this is Burgundy we're talking about.

I'm honestly not sure how much her behavior would change if it got to that point--though I hope it's not an entire 180. I like her the way she is.

Love doesn't distort one's personality. It can cause development or add on, but I can't see Burgundy completely changing. That's ridiculous.

Agreed. These things take time, and I can see Burgundy grappling her feelings for quite the while before she actually admits it to herself before anybody else. She's just stubborn like that *coughlikemecough*. Cilan is also a gentleman, and I can see him giving us the old, "lady's first", especially since this is Burgundy we're talking about.

Once again, I couldn't have say it better.

Love doesn't distort one's personality. It can cause development or add on, but I can't see Burgundy completely changing. That's ridiculous.

She isn't my favourite one for nothing.

With all respect: YOU SPEND YEARS TO REPLY TO THIS THREAD!! *Cough* Sorry to talk to you like this, but still...

I imagine before leaving that Cilan will look for Burgundy to say goodbye to her, and then... some ideas?

Obviously, Burgundy will demand why Cilan is going through all the trouble to say farewell to her, and he'll probably have a snarky ready reply to her, which she will most likely respond with by blushing.

Obviously, Burgundy will demand why Cilan is going through all the trouble to say farewell to her, and he'll probably have a snarky ready reply to her, which she will most likely respond with by blushing.

Late response, but thanks to you both! I'm glad you liked my graphics!

Originally Posted by Moonlight Amaryllis

Love doesn't distort one's personality. It can cause development or add on, but I can't see Burgundy completely changing. That's ridiculous.

Oh, I completely agree with you that that's how it should work and how it works in reality. ...Sadly, I don't always feel like I can trust the writers to show that development naturally and over time. I'm tentative not out of any doubt in the force of Burgundy's personality or of the effects of love, but because I don't have complete faith in the show's ability to realistically steer a character arc instead of taking shortcuts. Your mileage may vary on whether you think the writers can/will do such a thing, but that's just me being cautious.

As for the question of how a farewell would go: Moonlight Amaryllis, your response seems pretty apt to me.

Since I'm already posting here, I might as well drop off this banner I made recently:

I'm thinking of writing a SommelierShipping drabble tonight. If I do, I'll edit with the link here.

EDIT: Well, I did. It's, like, the fourth one down. Geez, someone needs to post in the Drabble Thread besides me O.o. Don't know if it's really worth any of your time since it's kind of an expansion/re-hash of something I said in my last post, but, hey, I'll post it here just in case.

Oh, I completely agree with you that that's how it should work and how it works in reality. ...Sadly, I don't always feel like I can trust the writers to show that development naturally and over time. I'm tentative not out of any doubt in the force of Burgundy's personality or of the effects of love, but because I don't have complete faith in the show's ability to realistically steer a character arc instead of taking shortcuts. Your mileage may vary on whether you think the writers can/will do such a thing, but that's just me being cautious.

What I am wondering is not whether or not she will change, but is how she will change.

Since I'm already posting here, I might as well drop off this banner I made recently:

I'm thinking of writing a SommelierShipping drabble tonight. If I do, I'll edit with the link here.

EDIT: Well, I did. It's, like, the fourth one down. Geez, someone needs to post in the Drabble Thread besides me O.o. Don't know if it's really worth any of your time since it's kind of an expansion/re-hash of something I said in my last post, but, hey, I'll post it here just in case.

Thank you! Just a few ones give the SommelierShipping or at least Burgundy love.

What are some scenarios you hope will happen in the anime?

A... um... kiss... I said it. Are you happy?

Originally Posted by Moonlight Amaryllis

Now that I think about, she probably would be somewhat of an advice-giver...though I would say more so for Burgundy than Cilan. (Unless Iris of all people notices...)

Oh, I completely agree with you that that's how it should work and how it works in reality. ...Sadly, I don't always feel like I can trust the writers to show that development naturally and over time. I'm tentative not out of any doubt in the force of Burgundy's personality or of the effects of love, but because I don't have complete faith in the show's ability to realistically steer a character arc instead of taking shortcuts. Your mileage may vary on whether you think the writers can/will do such a thing, but that's just me being cautious.

Yeah, I cannot really trust the show's writers at times, too. I think the main fault of the show is the fact that development of built up, and then completely forgotten later. Not to mention, I feel that lately none of the rivals have gotten quite as much screentime as others did in the past...

Since I'm already posting here, I might as well drop off this banner I made recently:

Yay, more banners!

I'm thinking of writing a SommelierShipping drabble tonight. If I do, I'll edit with the link here.

EDIT: Well, I did. It's, like, the fourth one down. Geez, someone needs to post in the Drabble Thread besides me O.o. Don't know if it's really worth any of your time since it's kind of an expansion/re-hash of something I said in my last post, but, hey, I'll post it here just in case.

I love it, thanks Skiyomi! omghowthefuqdoispellthat

Originally Posted by Night Flower

What I am wondering is not whether or not she will change, but is how she will change.

Yeah, I cannot really trust the show's writers at times, too. I think the main fault of the show is the fact that development of built up, and then completely forgotten later. Not to mention, I feel that lately none of the rivals have gotten quite as much screentime as others did in the past...

Why do writers put so many characters if they're only going to say so much little 'bout them?!

Pray tell.

Last time I freaked out
I just kept looking down
I st-st-stutered
You asked what I'm thinkin' 'bout

Felt like I couldn't breathe
You asked what's wrong with me
And all my friend said:
"You're just being crazy!"

The next time we hang out
I will redeem myself
My heart can't rest till then
Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!
Now I can't wait to see you again

Don't get your hopes up too high, kiddo.

Well, I at least answered the question for the sixth or seventh time...

You thought up that, too? I imagine the screen saying 'Burgundy & Cilan' and Burgundy jumping in joy because she finally got an opportunity to battle Cilan, only to be crushed when the presenter says 'Well everyone, meet your partner for this Tag Battle Tournament'.

Georgia: So, I'm battling Stephen, right?

Stephan: *wincing* My name is Stephan, but anyways, I'm honored.

Georgia realizes that Burgundy has ear-to-ear smile, and she could see why. She felt the same way the first round of the Junior Cup, when she had battled her own enemy, Iris.

Suddenly Burgundy's smile disappeared, her eyes widened and her jaw dropped after a huge gasp. When she regained her composture, she looked at Cilan, who gave her a wink.

An extended version of my invented scene...

Do you remember that Dewott got tired very easily in his/her battle against Dwebble? Maybe as an Oshawott happened the same and that's why Cilan thought he/she wasn't strong enough, that a strong Pokemon doesn't get tired so quickly, according to his B-class Connaisseur skills... is was that or the fact that Cilan in reality was a creppy cruel one when Burgundy fought against him in the Gym.

I'm starting to wonder if Burgundy's 'secret crush' on Cilan is because she realizes he's indeed a gentleman or because she finds Cilan's bad boy side cute.

Anyways, because we need something to talk about..We need a topic to discuss!

What we really need is *starts yelling* MORE PEOPLE HERE! WHERE IS EVERYONE?! THAT'S WHY THIS THREAD IS SO LAME! IS THERE JUST ONE SOMMELIERSHIPPER OUT THERE?! WINTER STORM?! SKIYOMI?! BLUEDRAGONFANGIRL?! ANYONE *Tears starting to fall* we need more opinions *sobs* not... just two persons... please *big puppy eyes* *sights* it seems were alone, Moonsie... everyone votes for that *sneers* WishfulShipping... no offense... Skiyomi will give me a good punishment for that *shurgs* but at least I got rid of that burden in my chest...