well now that my weekend plans have been cancelled i guess i know what i'll be doing in addition to spiraling. ontd, are you a marshmellow or still a blueberry secure in your choice of a single, non-veronica mars fandom? will you be/are you watching?

I feel like the episode titles gave the twist away. It did to me at least.

[Spoiler (click to open)]I feel like I would have been okay with the twist if I didn’t feel so half-assed. Like it’s not even an emotional scene, you barely get to register it before the narrative moves on to ONE YEAR LATER.

This is such a weird place to be because I dont believe writers OWE fans anything but in this case they kind of do owe us bc we funded the entire movie and why they were able to get this deal. So why completely alienate us to try to pick up a new audience? It just annoys me bc there was a whole spectrum of things they could have done, there was a built in reason to not have (spoiler lol)in any episode

I know ONTD won't agree with me or care but Veronica Mars was something that I loved watching with my dad. 10 minutes in and the unnecessary sex scenes, cussing, and everything else I don't feel comfortable watching with my dad ruined my chance to share something with him. It just seemed unnecessary either way.

I was excited for this and was gonna marathon it today, but knew I had to read whatever this big twist was first.

[Spoiler (click to open)] Yeah, no thanks. I do like LoVe, could live without them together as well, but killing him off? I'll pass. Like others said, I don't think showrunners owe fans anything, but when fans pay for a revival movie that helped them get this one, I feel like just pissing fans off is a dick move.

I think s1 was the best, s2 was good but after that it definitely went downhill. I haven't watched those seasons since they aired, I'm sure parts don't hold up that well.

The last good episode of VM was 1x22. And in that vein, if I never have to deal with Rob Thomas' thoughts on rape ("if the rapist was drugged as well mutual non-consent makes everything miraculously consensual" *vomits*) it still would be too soon.

I am also not surprised at all by the spoiler. RT is glad VM's most ardent fans exits because that's basically most of his career at this point, he resents them exactly for that reason as well.

I am also not surprised at all by the spoiler. RT is glad VM's most ardent fans exits because that's basically most of his career at this point, he resents them exactly for that reason as well.

That is SO true and well put. He mentioned something about how when they got a 4th season from Hulu, he thought they could go all out like GoT with freedom to be as violent/dark/censor free as they wanted or whatever, and then Hulu was like HOLD UP when he had 'fuck' in the first episode nearly 20 times and made him reign it in. I'm sure he was all pissy about that because a.) he's always resented the hell out of any "interference" and will purposefully sabotage things (like Miss Dent and Jackie) b.) he probably thought he was finally getting what he always deserved with full control on a big platform.

i...did not have the emotional reaction to this that i was expecting. i'm surprisingly pleasantly surprised with the season overall and my only gripes [Spoiler (click to open)]are no mac, bt i appreciate that she was acknowledged and all the last minute and unnecessary plot twists of the mystery bomber that i stopped carrying about the entire plot by the end. the rest felt satisfying because i got to see veronica, logan and so many of the characters i still love grow and change and the series overall theme of refusing to accept being double-edged sword was still in tact.