Netanyahu calls Iran’s opening a ‘smokescreen’ ‘on its path to the bomb’

Israeli PM Netanyahu went to social media just ahead of Iranian President Rouhani’s speech yesterday at the U.N. with the video above. He also tweeted:

Just last week, @HassanRouhani, like Ahmadinejad before him, refused to recognize the #Holocaust as an historical fact

Here is the alleged basis for this claim: Ann Curry question to Rouhani on NBC, former President Ahmadinejad said that the Holocaust is a myth, do you agree? “I’m not a historian, I’m a politician,” Rouhani said.

And here’s a transcript of Netanyahu’s video statement above. Seems a little competitive when he says he’s meeting with the president next week. And note the absence of any conciliatory statement– though the Israelis always say, All we want is peace! Do they?

I appreciate President Obama’s statement that Iran’s conciliatory words will have to be matched by action that is transparent and verifiable. And I look forward to discussing this with the president in Washington next week. Iran thinks that soothing words and token actions will enable it continue on its path to the bomb. Like North Korea before it, Iran will try to remove sanctions by offering cosmetic concessions while preserving its ability to rapidly build a nuclear weapon at a time of its choosing. Israel would welcome a genuine diplomatic solution that truly dismantles Iran’s capacity to develop nuclear weapons, but we will not be fooled by half measures that merely provide a smokescreen for Iran’s continual pursuit of nuclear weapons, and the world should not be fooled, either.

As I recall there was a conversation between Obama and Sarkozy, inadvertently recorded, in which S said he couldn’t stand Netanyahu and Obama replied ‘I have to deal with him every day’ – certainly not ‘I’ve always found him quite a nice guy’. Every day!!

It has been and is absolutely clear that Israel does not want peace. They have never stopped trying to acquire more land through what ever means necessary. Wars, theft of land through illegal settlements, refusal to freeze growth of settlements.

Israel also continues to refuse to sign the IAEA’s Non Proliferation Treaty which would place their massive stockpiles of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons under international inspections. These massive stockpiles of deadly and un checked weapons have been and continue to be a threat to peace in the middle east.

Israel plays by this twisted rule and this twisted rule only…Do as we say not as we do. The whole world is watching

They want recognised, peaceful possession of all the land from river to sea, with the Palestinian population induced – humane and generous means are envisaged, of course – to emigrate, at least up to a point where only a museum-piece remnant is left.

Off topic but what do you think about Egypt driving the Brotherhood underground? Do you think they’ll start addressing the hijab issue at some stage ? If all the women are walking around as muhagibaat wouldn’t it lessen the impact of moving away from Islamism in politics?

Rouhani was interviewed on CNN, and said not only that he was not a historian (perhaps to shift away questions about details about the holocaust) but also said that the Nazis’ murder of Jews was [bad, atrocity, something like that] and that even though it did occur — NB: no suggestion here that the murder by Nazis of Jews (no mention of all the others also murdered by Nazis) didn’t actually happen ! — that such murders did not justify Jews [depredations, bad acts, something like that] against anyone else (I think he did not say “Palestinians”).

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Iran’s new president has acknowledged that Nazis killed Jews, furthering the stark contrast between himself and his predecessor, who called the Holocaust a “myth.”

“Any crime that happens in history against humanity, including the crime the Nazis committed towards the Jews as well as non-Jews, was reprehensible and condemnable,” President Hassan Rouhani said in an interview with CNN’s Christiane Amanpour.

“Whatever criminality they committed against the Jews we condemn. The taking of human life is contemptible. It makes no difference whether that life is a Jewish life, Christian or Muslim.”

And:
“The taking of human life is something our religion rejects. But this does not mean that on the other hand you can say Nazis committed crimes against a group, now therefore they must usurp the land of another group and occupy it. This, too, is an act that should be condemned. There should be an even-handed discussion.”

@ Bandolero
Your links show Rohuani did condemn both what the Nazis did to Jews and non-Jews, and what Israel has been doing to the innocent Palestinians (without specifically naming Israel). He said the world should not ignore either.

Yes, of course, Rouhani did not deny the crime and he also condemned it. But other than CNN claimed Rouhani did not name the crime “Holocaust” and he did not give this crime some kind of singularity.

It’s very much in line with a third world view that Europeans committed many crimes, from starting horrific wars including WWI and WWII, practicing slavery and colonialisation, committing genocides in Africa, genocide against native cultures in America to christianize them, burning people alive and feeding them to dogs and many more, some of them – like the ethnic cleansing of Palestine – lasting to the present time. So the conclusion is the European or “western” culture is just very violent and it’s history full of many ugly crimes.

From that point of view the Nazi crime against the jews is just one more crime committed by Europeans. A crime committed by Europeans against Europeans, in the frame of a war started by Europeans, a world war under which many people in the world suffered, including the Iranians.

So Rouhani didn’t assign the Nazi crime against the jews “singularity” and thereby he infuriates the zionists who try to build a kind of “holocaust religion” from the Nazi crime against the jews.

I appreciate President Obama’s statement that Israel’s conciliatory words will have to be matched by action that is transparent and verifiable. And I look forward to discussing this with the president in Washington next week. Israel thinks that soothing words and token actions will enable it continue on its path to full apartheid oppression of the Palestinian people. Like South Africa before it, Israel will try to remove sanctions by offering cosmetic concessions while preserving its ability to rapidly build expand the illegal settlements in the occupied West Bank at a time of its choosing. The world would welcome a genuine diplomatic solution that truly dismantles Israel’s capacity to continue to develop illegal settlements, but we will not be fooled by half measures that merely provide a smokescreen for Israel’s continual pursuit of apartheid oppression and denial of human rights of the Palestinian people, and the world should not be fooled, either.

“Whatever one thinks about Israel, good or bad, Iran should not be allowed to get nuclear weapons.”

Iran should be allowed to get nuclear weapons so long as the world refuses to act to disarm every other state of its nuclear weapons, especially israel. (I would prefer every state be free of such weapons.) No one who is not willing to disarm israel has any basis to prevent Iran from protecting itself.

Ever dawn on you that they are using centrifuges to enrich their uranium? And that the output is a gas? You can’t make a nuclear weapon out of a gas, and Netanyahu knows this. Nuclear weapons are made of of metal uranium.

[…] The gaseous diffusion process used to enrich uranium requires uranium in the form of UF6. In the first step of UF6 production, uranium ore is mined and sent to a mill where uranium oxide (often called “yellowcake”) is produced. The uranium oxide is then sent to a UF6 production facility. At the production facility, the uranium oxide is combined with anhydrous HF and fluorine gas in a series of chemical reactions to form the chemical compound UF6. The product UF6 is placed into steel cylinders and shipped as a solid to a gaseous diffusion plant for enrichment.

Uranium hexafluoride is used in uranium processing because its unique properties make it very convenient. It can conveniently be used as a gas for processing, as a liquid for filling or emptying containers or equipment, and as a solid for storage, all at temperatures and pressures commonly used in industrial processes.

Uranium hexafluoride isn’t the final state. It is only used in the enrichment process to increase the percentage of fissionable material. It is then converted to metal. Whether they have the capability of completing the process from uranium hexaflouride to finished munition is another story.

Nobody attacked Israel’s nuke bomb centers, yet Israel bombed both Iraq’s and Syria’s, and now wants to bomb Iran’s nuclear plants even though Iran is legally allowed to make them for civilian purposes and is subject to international monitoring, while Israel is not. I don’t get it. I especially don’t get why the US totally ignores this state of affairs. Given Israel’s conduct in this, why wouldn’t every other country in the Middle East rationally want nukes to defend itself against threats from Israel, who already has said record? Israel also has a general history of aggressive warfare labeled “defensive” and/or “preemptory” or “preventive” to avoid international law in this area. Every war Hitler initiated against another country he characterized as “defensive.” even Operation Barabarossa against Russia, which he had a peace pact with.

Why is it appropriate to ask the Iranian leader if six million Jews were killed in world war II at the hands of the Nazis? Why is it relevant what Phil Weiss old pen pal Gilad Atzmon thinks about holocaust denial? or David Duke? I could give a flying duck.

biorabi, more importantly, why does he have to believe it? It’s more important to find out how he will be treating the 30,000 Jews that chose to remain in Iran than about his feelings about a sad and wicked historical WW II event. The refusal to emigrate to Israel by the Iranian Jews in spite of the generous bribes offered is a big slap in its face.

It’s really satisfying when people end up showing their true colors; it confirms what you suspected all along. It’s such a relief knowing you can rely on your intuition!

I agree by the way! It’s not appropriate to ask Iranians whose friends and relatives were gased and slaughtered by America’s fair-weathered friend Saddam such a question, as if Iranians need to guess the pity-party password to get some respect. It would be much more polite to say: “We’re sorry we helped Saddam slaughter and gas so many of your people and we’re sorry we inflicted years of suffering on your people by replacing your elected President with the Shah. We really fvked up!”, instead of endlessly playing the ol’ Zionist victim card with them making them feel guilty for supporting the oppressed people you Zionists are scr..wing big time, just because y’all feel owed other people’s land.

It’s true though that sometimes, the best way to defend yourself is to play along, and give in to the little charade while you prepare for that inevitable day when your opponent tries to scr…you and when you have the wealth of resources Iran has, that day will surely come.

Quite why anyone should accept or believe the words of a delusional hyperbolist, with past form of wild exaggeration, lies and ridiculous smears is beyond me. The self-aggrandisment and colossal sense of self-importance that Nety never ceases to display is far, far worse than Iranian leader has ever shown. A country which makes stupid, fake videos, builds childish demonising websites and feeds the media a barrage of misinformation excepts to be listened to seriously? Yahoo, you are out of your mind.

SEE: “Comparing Israel’s and Iran’s Nuclear Programs”, By John Steinbach, Special Report, Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, July 2011, Pages 34-36

[EXCERPT] ● The History of Israel’s Nuclear Program

Israel’s nuclear program had its inception with the establishment of the state in 1948. Profoundly influenced by the horrors of the Holocaust, Ernst David Bergmann, “father” of the Israeli bomb program, and David Ben-Gurion began a program to develop nuclear weapons because, in the words of Bergmann, “The State of Israel needs a defense research program of its own, so that we shall never again be as lambs led to the slaughter.” In 1952, the Israeli Atomic Energy Commission was established, and the Israeli bomb project initiated.
Like the Iranians, Israel eagerly signed up with Washington’s Atoms for Peace Program and, like the Iranians, was rewarded by the U.S. with a 5 megawatt highly enriched uranium research reactor. By the mid-1950s, Israeli nuclear and computer scientists began collaborating with their French counterparts in the French bomb project, and were integral partners with Paris in the Algerian atomic bomb tests. For its part, France reciprocated by building Israel a natural uranium heavy water moderated plutonium production reactor and reprocessing plant at Dimona. Israel also forged a nuclear partnership with South Africa’s apartheid regime, providing it with technical and economic assistance in return for access to uranium and missile launch test facilitiesDespite Israel’s assurances to Washington that Dimona was a peaceful research facility, extreme security measures—including shooting down one of its own Mirage fighters, and a civilian Libyan airline, killing 104 civilians—told a far different story. Dimona went online in 1964 and plutonium production began shortly thereafter. By 1966 Israel had built its first nuclear weapon, and by the 1967 war two nuclear weapons were ready for use. During the 1973 war, Israel possessed several dozen nuclear weapons and threatened to use them in order to coerce the U.S. into providing a massive airlift of weapons.By the 1970s, U.S. intelligence agencies had become aware of Israel’s nuclear bomb program, but it was generally thought that its arsenal consisted of no more than a relative handful of primitive devices. These estimates were demolished in 1986, when a Dimona nuclear technician, Mordechai Vanunu, smuggled out hundreds of photos published in the SundayLondon Times. Analysis by senior nuclear weapons designers Frank Barnaby and Ted Taylor showed that Israel possessed approximately 200 highly sophisticated nuclear weapons, including boosted fission and, perhaps, hydrogen bombs. Barnaby concluded, “The acquisition by Israel of lithium deuteride implies that it has become a thermonuclear-weapon power—a manufacturer of hydrogen bombs…Israel has the ability to turn out the weapons with a yield of 200-250 kilotons.”
Although Israel maintained—and still maintains—a position of “nuclear ambiguity,” neither acknowledging or denying its nuclear arsenal, the Israeli “bomb in the basement” was now an open secret. . .

P.S. FOR MORE ON ISRAEL’S MENDACITY REGARDING ITS NUCLEAR PROGRAM, SEE:“How Israel Out-Foxed US Presidents”, By Morgan Strong (A Special Report), ConsortiumNews.com, 5/31/10

[EXCERPT] ● Secret Nukes and JFK

Even as it backed down in the Sinai [following its invasion in 1956], Israel was involved in another monumental deception, a plan for building its own nuclear arsenal.
In 1956, Israel had concluded an agreement with France to build a nuclear reactor in the Negev desert. Israel also signed a secret agreement with France to build an adjacent plutonium reprocessing plant.
Israel began constructing its nuclear plant in 1958. However, French President Charles de Gaulle was worried about nuclear weapons destabilizing the Middle East and insisted that Israel not develop a nuclear bomb from the plutonium processing plant. Prime Minister Ben-Gurion assured de Gaulle that the processing plant was for peaceful purposes only.After John F. Kennedy became President, he also wrote to Ben-Gurion explicitly calling on Israel not to join the nuclear-weapons club, drawing another pledge from Ben-Gurion that Israel had no such intention.
Nevertheless, Kennedy continued to press, forcing the Israelis to let U.S. scientists inspect the nuclear reactor at Dimona. But the Israelis first built a fake control room while bricking up and otherwise disguising parts of the building that housed the plutonium processing plant.
In return for allowing inspectors into Dimona, Ben-Gurion also demanded that the United States sell Hawk surface-to-air missiles to the Israeli military. Kennedy agreed to the sale as a show of good faith.
Subsequently, however, the CIA got wind of the Dimona deception and leaked to the press that Israel was secretly building a nuclear bomb.After Kennedy’s assassination, President Lyndon Johnson also grew concerned over Israel’s acquiring nuclear weapons. He asked then-Prime Minister Levi Eshkol to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
Eshkol assured Johnson that Israel was studying the matter and would sign the treaty in due course. However, Israel has never signed the treaty and never has admitted that it developed nuclear weapons. [For details, See “Israel and The Bomb” by Avner Cohen.] . . .

[EXCERPTS] Psychological projection or projection bias is a psychological defense mechanism where a person unconsciously denies his or her own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, such as to other people. . .
. . . The theory was developed by Sigmund Freud – in his letters to Wilhelm Fliess, “‘Draft H’ deals with projection as a mechanism of defence” – and further refined by his daughter Anna Freud; for this reason, it is sometimes referred to as Freudian Projection.According to Sigmund Freud, projection is a psychological defense mechanism whereby one “projects” one’s own undesirable thoughts, motivations, desires, and feelings onto someone else. ‘Emotions or excitations which the ego tries to ward off are “split out” and then felt as being outside the ego…perceived in another person’.[4] It is a common process.[5] . . .
. . . In one example of the process, a person might have thoughts of infidelity with respect to a spouse or other partner. Instead of dealing with these undesirable thoughts consciously, the subject unconsciously projects these feelings onto the other person, and begins to think that the other has thoughts of infidelity and that the other may be having an affair. In this way, the subject may obtain ‘acquittal by his conscience – if he projects his own impulses to faithlessness on to the partner to whom he owes faith’.[7] . . .. . . Projection can also be established as a means of obtaining or justifying certain actions that would normally be found atrocious or heinous. This often means projecting false accusations, information, etc., onto an individual for the sole purpose of maintaining a self-created illusion. . .

For 8 years the world had to endure the Presidency of GWB and his henchmen/women. I felt ashamed for the US, and very disheartened by the gullible citizens who elected that cabal, not once but twice (sorta). The resultant “WOT”, deliberate campaign for fervent Islamophobia, and no effort toward peace of any kind had begun in earnest.

What Israelis keep doing by electing & empowering this warmonger and dangerous nutball liar is as bad, if not worse.

Netanyahu “Israel would welcome a genuine diplomatic solution” Step right up and sign the IAEA’s NPT and open up your gates to real international inspections of your massive stockpiles of nuclear,biological and chemical weapons that every nation in the middle east lives in the shadows of. Netanyahu has no idea what “genuine diplomatic solutions” are.

Yep. First they should announce that they actually lie and admit that they have lied and tell the world that they have N/B/C weapons– lots of them!

I am sick of their and our hypocrisy. It’s time that Israel admits that they are actually worse than NK….. whose people are still starving.

“Like North Korea before it, Iran will try to remove sanctions by offering cosmetic concessions while preserving its ability to rapidly build a nuclear weapon at a time of its choosing.”

Horse poo.

He’s a liar. He’s not capable of ever speaking the truth. He cannot be diplomatic– he wants no peace. He wants hegemony, and for the Palestinians to be gone by whatever means necessary. He wants to be the ruler of the ME, and anyone who stands in his way will be squashed. He’s dangerous, and our complicity makes him even more so.

Fat chance! Those “massive stockpiles of nuclear,biological and chemical weapons” will come in real handy should the Palestinians gain some miraculous advantage. Then they’ll go from being oppressed people to guinea pigs. Now you know those Zionists won’t sit on all those WMDs without trying some out, don’t you? I mean they don’t even view Palestinians as human anyway.

wiki:
“Jones based the Coyote on Mark Twain’s book Roughing It,[4] in which Twain described the coyote as “a long, slim, sick and sorry-looking skeleton” that is “a living, breathing allegory of Want. He is always hungry.””

While Napoleon exhorts the other animals to fight and die for the good of the farm, he himself is a coward and a lazy one at that … Nonetheless, Napoleon’s corrupt historical revisionism rewrites himself as a hero … Ultimately, Napoleon becomes an oppressive dictator …

A very interesting article in Farsnews. “Iran’s leading independent news agency”
regarding Allowing Insult to Islam and Holocaust Denial.

Many have been tried for questioning the Holocaust, but maybe the most appalling trial pertained to Late Prof. Roger Garaudy whose trial resembled that of Galileo.

If the western states believe in Positivism which calls religion and metaphysics areas beyond science which must be kept away, then why the Jewish Holocaust is viewed like a religious taboo which cannot go under any questioning or study by anyone and should always be taken for granted?

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