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Basketball - NBC SportsFri, 09 Dec 2016 12:52:50 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: soopremehttp://nba.nbcsports.com/2012/05/10/quote-of-the-day-lil-wayne-says-kobe-bryant-is-the-goat/comment-page-2/#comment-132697
Fri, 12 Oct 2012 18:30:15 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=80957#comment-132697This comparison is absurd.
You can make the case that Dwade and Kobe are same player., Their career numbers are the same( Dwades slightly better) and you would be crazy to think Dwade would not of won championships with Shaq in his prime.
Secondly, Kobe has been in the league 16 years and has won 1 reugular season league mvp award and he will finish his career with one. Jordan has 5 league mvp awards and 6 finals mvp awards. If league mvp awards are not important than why did Jordan get 5?
When its all said in done he will barely crack the top 15 all time.
Champions have more to do with the team (talent around you) and the coach.
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Sat, 19 May 2012 07:30:46 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=80957#comment-94552Yes, Kobe is a better three point shooter, that’s it. This is the only field he’s better. I won’t even talk about the differences between leadership skills. But this is not my point. People are unfair to compare Michael with anybody who ever played the game of basketball. I do think Kobe is great. When he’s done he will probably be in top 10 players of all time. But, I think Michael is the greatest sports player of all time. That’s why there is a huge difference…
A short story to end it: One day Horace Grant beats him at table tennis. MJ had never played it before; he gets so angry, buys a table , goes home works for hours and hours… finally he comes back and beats everybody in the roster.
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Fri, 18 May 2012 16:31:43 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=80957#comment-94339it’s closer than you think. what about 3’s made? kobe is better. people can slant stats but that’s not the point i was making. yes i agree that TD would/should be considered to be one of the best during the post-MJ era (any era actually!) but nobody compares PF’s to SG’s…they compare G’s to G’s…again, a natural tendency…not so much a biasm. they compare TD to karl malone. going back to the point of the article, if someone wants to say kobe is great and all that jazz, fine, it’s their opinion…though a very popular opinion. if you disagree, fine as well.
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Fri, 18 May 2012 13:00:16 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=80957#comment-94253Comparisons would have been a natural tendency only if people hadn’t been so biased. People have a memory like a sieve. Thank God we still have the numbers/stats. Just look at their playoff averages:
MJ: 33,4 pts, 49 pct fg, 6,4 reb, 5,7 assists
Kobe:25,4 pts, 45 pct fg 5,1 reb, 4,8 assists
Not even close! There has to be a proximity to compare these two.
Secondly, I don’t agree with idea that Kobe is the greatest after MJ. I think it is Tim Duncan who is also the greatest PF of all-time. And Shaq could also be mentioned in that argument. But I would definitely say that Kobe is the best SG after Jordan.
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Wed, 16 May 2012 13:20:42 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=80957#comment-93386ehhh…not true. MJ is the greatest but with Kobe being the greatest during the post-MJ era, comparisons are a natural tendency.
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Mon, 14 May 2012 14:31:04 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=80957#comment-92542the only people that compare Michael and Kobe are Kobe fans. I think that says it all🙂
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Mon, 14 May 2012 12:23:13 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=80957#comment-92508mytthor…its a lost cause with progress2011. the guy admits he only watched sports to watch certain team lose…how pathetic. he is a classic “hater”. because of his myopic views, any opinions expressed by him should/need be disregarded immediately. look at what he wrote. it’s crazy talk on many levels. either he is a child or a just a very weird and strange adult. we may never know…
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Mon, 14 May 2012 12:07:31 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=80957#comment-92502so you admit you are just a hater in every sense of the word. you watch sports just to see certain teams fail? progress2011, that says a lot about you…i actually feel sorry for you.
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Sun, 13 May 2012 13:58:01 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=80957#comment-92295I know you kids were likely brought up on Michael Jordan, so you turned on every commercial and heard every media outlet pronounce him the GOAT since 1992, but being marketed as the GOAT during the hottest period fro the NBA is not the same as being it. Also being the NBA’s biggest draw also doesn’t MAKE you the GOAT, and if you think being the GOAT was why he was the biggest draw, again note magazine’s like “Sport” who had a cover in 1992, after one friggin championship as the greatest basketball player of all time. Every media source bought into that, the refs followed suit, and everyone made money off of the golden goose. So I don’t buy this automatic assumption of Jordan as the best ever because I’ve been told that by the media years before he could ever make a legit claim as that. There have been more truly legendary NBA players than NFL guys even and people too quickly whip out MJ. For instance I’d put Kareem, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, and Magic ahead. These guys carried teams. The era of championship teams being “assembled” through BS trades began in the Jordan era. Not a coincidence. Kobe Bryant won 5 rings over a very long span of time and is still relatively young. So this talk of he shouldn’t even be “mentioned” with MJ? Come on now, you’re letting your “Be like Mike” Gatorade/Hanes/Nike conditioning cloud your judgment. I’m not necessarily a big Kobe fan, but he has proven himself to be one of the best ever and after winning 5 rings he certainly deserves consideration, even if its coming from someone as goofy as Lil’ Wayne.
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Fri, 11 May 2012 20:55:40 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=80957#comment-91896Yeah fly,

You have the following luxuries:

1. Biggest market team
2. Unlimited pockets to buy out referees and obtain favorable calls
3. Unlimited pockets to buy Sterns support to get Gasol for free
4. Unlimited cash-flow to almost convince Stern to get CP3 for nothing
5. Big pockets to buy one of the best coach in history

You and all the other Fakers are more of Golaith fans. You want the biggest and the best favorite,that has all the odds stacked in their favor.

I’m more of a David fan. I root for the teams that fight thru the odds and obstacles and do more with less.

To answer your question….My team is any team to take down the Goliath

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Fri, 11 May 2012 20:05:31 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=80957#comment-91876“Any one that has ever watched Durant play, knows he doesnt play close to the basket. He gets fewer dunks than kobe.”

what? youre crazy, of course he plays closer to the basket.

“He is mainly a jump shooter. Just better than kobe as his percentages confirm. Plus his multi, consecutive year scoring title.
And don’t say its because kobe sat out 6 games. Because the only way he was in the argument was because he sat those games out.
Durant took 39 fewer shots, eventhough he played 6 more games. Then the kicker is, he outscored kobe by 243 points.”

do you know how the scoring title is calculated? ya don’t…do you? my gosh, take a stats class or something…

progress…please, you are delusional. i’m not saying durant isnt a great player, he is…but you saying kobe is not, is questionable.

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Fri, 11 May 2012 19:58:26 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=80957#comment-91871well metalhead65, we can just say, “…to each his own.”
personally, i’m with ya. yeah, i do like hip-hop/rap but rock dominates my music landscape. and yeah, i agree, when instruments are being played and used, its a different level…but again, if people like rap…good for them.
(loungefly…my moniker here…is from an STP song)
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Fri, 11 May 2012 19:51:16 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=80957#comment-91865progress2011, it is we Laker fans who have been able to rub the salt into the wounds of the haters for the majority of the past 5 years (3 Finals appearances)…what other team can boast that? no one. the truth is…the Lakers have been the most successful team the past 12 years. we basically average a Finals appearance every other year. i dont know but that feels pretty damn good.
as far as Kobe…you may hate him, but almost all players, GM’s, and media sources will say he has been the best player during the post jordan era. he has had the most success.

progress…who is your team? i would love to give ya a breakdown how the lakers have been better than them for the past decade or so…

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Fri, 11 May 2012 19:32:30 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=80957#comment-91851As I mentioned before, percentages matter in all walks of life and sports, ex:

The fact that you guys want to write off kobe’s terrible shooting percentage is comical and shows how desperate you guys are to make him shed his ” Harlem Globe Trotter” image…BUT you cannot…ahahaha

Positions:

Only Centers and some power forwards, play their positions exclusively, ex:

1. Dirk – is a Power Forward, but shoots 3’s, takes the ball off the dribble and is one of the leading in assists.
2. CP3 – is not a shooting guard, he is a PG. But he leads the team in shooting/ scoring.
3. LBJ – is a forward but leads the team in assists, steals and scoring
4. Durant – is a forward but shoots better than your SG

So, unless you are saying kobe only plays one position, which is jacking-up- bad shots AND the other players I mentioned are more skilled because they are playing multiple positions….then I’d agree with that.

C’mon with your next excuse! I got my bat to knock it outta the park too !!! ahahaha

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Fri, 11 May 2012 19:28:38 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=80957#comment-91846I didn’t say anything about you being racist. I do listen to rock music. To give you an idea, I have 5 band t-shirts: The Roots, De La Soul, Led Zeppelin, Hendrix, and Pearl Jam. And while rapping isn’t signing, there’s a decent case to be made that the Hetfield growl isn’t singing, and while Zep is my favorite band ever, I don’t think Plant having an orgasm on a record counts as singing half the time either.

I’m not trying to convince you to like hip-hop, but I think turntables and samples are music as much as the funky sounds that Hendrix created weren’t music before he did them. I just think it’s a cop-out to say “it’s not music.”

Also think about this: when thinking about whether sampling old records is music or not, I look at it this way. A good portion of acoustic guitar songs are just collections of chords, and all those chords have been used before. It’s just how the artist chooses to put them together that makes them innovative or makes them sound good. True sampling is the same thing. Now you do have to make a distinction between sampling sounds and stealing a whole song and just rapping over it to make that connection.

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Fri, 11 May 2012 19:16:48 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=80957#comment-91838Fake Willie Gault….Dude you can’t even come up with a name of your own. You are using some other dudes name. I should write off your fakeness, just for that reason alone.

History has documented my top 10 and anyone of my generation, that witnessed the inception of rap and remember, it was not played on any radio station.

Then, when it was finally accepted and played on radio stations, the general comment was, it was a passing fade and it wouldn’t last 10 years.

Here we are approximately 30 years later and the message has been watered down and the evolution stalled.

Obviously your appreciation of rap is different from what I have enjoyed from day 1. So, you go ahead and attempt to justify your underground dudes. I hope they are as good as you suggest because otherwise, what was once a representation of how minorities communicated over music,in urban America, will be lost.

Dude, many of your fellow laker fans that I attempt to educate, do state he is a ” Great Shooter” !
There are about 50 of ya’ll that patrol this msnbc site regularly. Check out your fellow fans idiotic posts.

Lastly mythor, you seem a lil hostile….ahahahaha ! It brings me tremendous pleasure to supply the salt, to rub in those open wounds, now that you are coming to the realization your team kinda suck.

Don’t fret, I will be here til you get eliminated…and I keep a fresh box of iodized salt…ahahaha

There is no point in debating with you…I leave you with this…(yes…you’re the jack@$$ in the clip)

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Fri, 11 May 2012 13:09:52 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=80957#comment-91678uh, a lot of these top nba athletes tend to cheat on their wives. Dr. J, MJ paid out hush money, Kobe, Wade divorced his hometown sweetheart and two kids and hooked up w/a hot celebrity…

may want to keep the GOAT discussion on the court, cuz off the court it get real ugly real fast

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Fri, 11 May 2012 12:44:13 +0000http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=80957#comment-91669Also kobe might be honored to be in the conversation of the GOAT but it disrespect the GOAT in a lot of ways. Hell he’s name doesnt eve deserve to be mentioned next to MJ neither is lebron so please to the person post this article quit your job before you disrespect more people..
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