Because of the low price I'm seriously considering buying them. Does anyone has more (worn) pics of these shoes though? This since I won't like the shoes anymore if there is a big Diesel logo or something at the back of the shoes. From the pics at Yoox I can't tell what 'logo details' there're on the shoes.

Do people actually wear them here? I'm not sure how i feel about them from the Yoox pics... pretty different

***Ok so i went looking and found pics of the 8BI on the net and those do look pretty damn cool...

If i usually get a 28x32 as i'm a 30 waist, taking the wash on both of these into account which should i get for each?

I don't have any straight leg yet... just zatiny. People keep telling me to try Safado though. I'm not sure how i feel about the 14" opening of the 8iw though... seems rather small compared to the 16 of the 8bi.

I don't like 8BI that much. I already have 8IH, 8IL, 8RN, 8AA, and 8BI doesn't have the difference that makes it necesary in my collection...it's very similar, plus, the fit on me was weird, the W28 fits strange...and W27 too small.

And the denim is not very pleasant/comfortable when you touch it...no really, I don't think 8BI deserves all the attention it gets...

But I was looking to get rid of my zathan 8IW or alter it to make it a safado cut but now I just have to buy the safado...shame that the backpockets are so boring, I would have liked something like 8GS, but with black or brown leather instead of white on 8GS.