Garak is played by Larry from Hellraiser. So I look at him and hear 'come to daddy' and then I dry heave a little.

_________________"The Tree is His Penis"

The tree is his penis // it's very exciting // when held up to his mouth // the lights are all lighting // his eyes start a-bulging // in unbridled glee // the tree is his penis // its beauty, effulgent -amandabear

churning through DS9, and man it's so much better than TNG. TNG has not in any way survived the test of time, but DS9 is significantly more mature, and actually relevant.

+ 1. I rewatched DS9 and loved it. I tried with TNG and couldn't stomach many of the episodes. Rodenberry's praise for embracing politics in the 60s with TOS went to his head and he over did, IMO, in TNG. Many episodes come off as didactic.

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I still think it's funny that the 3 women's jobs with major roles in TNG was to take care of people.

You are forgetting Denise Crosby as the gung-ho security chief, Worf's predecessor.

I still think it's funny that the 3 women's jobs with major roles in TNG was to take care of people.

I always thought it was interesting that Marina Sirtis originally went for the part of Tasha Yar and Denise Crosby was up for Troi.

Interesting! I can not see Sirtis in Crosby's role.

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I also recently learned that the true reason the Dr. Crusher was fired at the end of season 1 was because she was complaining to the writers about the poorly written female characters. Then, the writer eventually got fired and she came back.

I liked the crusty doctor they had after Crusher and I thought it was cool she had two guest roles in TOS

While DS9 has much better writing and characters, being confined to a station let them break away from the boring 4 episode themes (A/many crew members are sick; the ship is sick, the seemingly nice aliens have something up their sleeve, Romulans/Klingons/Ferengi/Cardassians/ are *almost* always bad) and actually get deeper into the politics and characters. There's also much more continuity between episodes, even if it's a minor subplot, lends much more to immersion.

I don't know. I don't feel like a hater but I'm not looking forward to this moive. The reason I like Star Trek so much is that it makes me feel happy and optimistic or at least not depressed about the weight of the world. This movie looks like it would give me nightmares.

I just noticed this thread. So much Voyager hate! I agree that many of the episodes are a hot mess (like the aforementioned Janeway/Tom Paris having lizard slug babies one) but some of them are a lot more interesting and high-concept than any of the other series. And the bad ones usually just make me laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh. I say that having seen every single episode of TOS, TNG, DS9 and Voyager, because I am a crazy person who watches too much TV.

Favourite series: Tough to call, but TNG is probably the most coherent of all of themCharacter: Worf is unquestionably the best. The Doctor from Voyager is close runner-up. Honorable mentions go to Data, Lt. Barclay, and Tuvok.Alien species: Don't have one, some are interesting and some are notEpisode: "The Inner Light" and the Data/Sherlock Holmes ones from TNG, "Blink of an Eye" from Voyager, the Trouble With Tribbles/DS9 mashup, and "The City on the Edge of Forever" and "The Savage Curtain" from TOS (the latter of which admittedly is terrible, but I've always been fond of its outlandish stupidity). Have I mentioned that I watch too much TV?Villain: Gul DukatMovie: Star Trek 4 (Save The Whales)

Also, hilarious that I'm moving about an hour away from my nearest participating theater the weekend before this. DON'T CARE! I will drive that hour there right after work, watch two hours of Star Trek, and drive all the way home. I will make a four hour commitment to TNG on a work night.

Now that I am unemployed I am planning on working my way through TOS and then TNG (because TNG is my favourite and these are the two complete seasons that I own) which should be fun.

As far as the new movies go, I enjoyed the first and I am looking forward to the next. They aren't the ST that I fell in love or grew up with and I agree with Mumbles that they have taken the predictable, darker route. I was also bothered by that casual murder. On the other hand it is still fun. Whatever happens Picard will always be my Captain and "This is sex" Worf will always be my #1 ST crush!