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Comment by munkey69

Your TomTom directions/coordinates are messed up, other than that, good guide.

The Strange Seed can be located close to the Everbloom portal above Stormwind City, at 42 75 on the Eastern Kingdoms map./way Eastern Kingdoms 35 32

Give a zone, give coordinates in that zone. But constantly interchanging from continent, to zone, to local directions.. it's just complicated for nothing.

Comment by mostid

Not sure why, but Grimmy wasn't there when I flew in. Also, "The Forbidding Sea" zone/map text was green, like I was in a faction capital. This was right around the time of reset (not sure if it was a bug?), so I logged out and back in and he was there as well as the map/text going back to white.

Comment by MintySinty

Most of the traveling takes place in the Eastern Kingdoms, so this is best suited to Alliance players.

NOTE: Not sure if this was a bug for me (like HELL I'm going to test this again!) but I was unable to get the first clue to appear for a different character besides the one who had captured Baa'l. I seemed to be locked in.

Assuming you're a lazy person like me who didn't get Draenor flying and who also didn't do this on a mage, the main thing you'll want to do is conserve your hearthstones. If you're quick about your business, it'll be a pain to wait on them every time to finish cooling down. There's so much back and forth between Draenor and Outland that it isn't worth it to use them unless you'll be staying in one or the other for long enough. Best classes: Mage (portals), Druid (dreamwalk). Mage portals are great for traversing between continents and worlds, but dreamwalk makes crossing the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor an absolute breeze. Since you have three hearthstones at your disposal (regular, Garrison, and Dalaran), as long as you're wise about when you use them, a druid could easily nail this quest in no time flat... Maybe with a little help from a mage to get between Draenor and Outland.

Ever-Shifting Mirror: Gives you no-cooldown teleportation between Draenor and Outland. This is great if you skipped Draenor flying. Get it from Burning Crusade Timewalking.

Aviana's Feather: Aviana's feather increases your movement speed by 614% while flying--better than flying mounts. Get it from a Garrison Inn mission in Skyreach.

Glowing mog weapons: Weapons that cast actual light (Such as the staff Soulkeeper, the mace Grayson's Torch, several wands, off hand lanterns, etc) can help finding items in dark areas and navigating dark-textured geometry. The light cast on the ground makes the floor's shape more apparent.

FLIP ZIDORMI: In the Blasted Lands, if you try to fly through the Dark Portal while it's red, it sometimes does nothing. Talk to Zidormi, ask to see the zone's past. When the portal is green, fly through. You can get to Ashran. Remember this!

Let's go!

Starting out, the first few between Draenor and Outland are not great without wasting your hearthstones a lot. Use the Ever-Shifting Mirror if you have it. It saves a ton of time. Regardless:

Alliance Garrison: Fly to Akeeta's Hovel, use Aviana's Feather.Horde Garrison: Build a spirit lodge and at least one portal for Spires of Arak. Consider it required!Onward from the first clue...

Now the only question is this: Is the minimum level of this quest 85? As far as I can tell, nothing stops a level 85 from completing Uuna's quest, getting a summon to Heart of Darkness, and using hel

Comment by Volardelis

"After this feat, Terokk was revered like a living legend, some arakkoa even declaring he is the reincarnation of Rukhmar himself." From clue 5.

One error in this, Rukhmar is a female, so it should be "... declaring he is the reincarnation of Rukhmar herself"

In clue 6, the shadowmoon orcs did not create the dark star. K'ara became the "dark star" because of other reasons, reasons completely unrelated to the Shadowmoon orcs.

Another error is in clue 10, Medivh is not dead. His mother brought him back just before the events of the third war and we even saw him in Legion at the end of the Return to Karazhan dungeon. Whoever wrote the little lore sections of his guide clearly does not know the lore.

Comment by skyline33

WARNINGI turned back time to access that Arathi Highlands part of the quest, when I tried to use the BfA portal to Stormgarde (Alliance Arathi Highlands town) i got stuck under ground and had to report the character as stuck via an alt.

What are these things in reference to? I understand it's not important, as such, but I enjoy following the trail of breadcrumbs, and would very much love to know where this one came from!

Comment by Nzall

The waypoint command for the Strange Seed doesn't match the one in the description and sends me all the way off the Lordaeron coast.

Comment by Sharitha7

I'm at the last part with Grimmy. Seems like /cheer in Zul drak doesn't seem to work and I have no idea what I did wrong. Running the script it says true true false true and no matter how may times i've tried, it stays this way. Anyone any idea?

Comment by Dualwielder

Turtle Bringer could refer to how the goblins mounted cabins on giant sea turtles, providing the Horde with submarines during the Second War. The Fuselight goblins are members of the Steamwheedle Cartel like those that joined Orgrim's Horde.Granted, Chronicle doesn't include this, but only just as it speaks of how the goblins helped build the Horde's navy.

Comment by Dagosta

Using the Pet Dungeon teleporter Manaproof in Dalaran can save you some time to get to Eastern Kingdoms.

Comment by Enfae

I dont't know if anyone else had this problem, but if you're in BFA Arathi he won't be there, you have to talk to the zone time traveller dude to see it in original state first.

Comment by Enfae

I dont't know if anyone else had this problem, but if you're in BFA Arathi he won't be there, you have to talk to the zone time traveller dude to see it in original state first.

Comment by Drudatz

the coords in this guide are not very good. Also for example Step 4 says Blade's Edge Mountains 33 58 while the picture says Blade's Edge Mountains 34 58....

Comment by Elfizm

The 'Odd Cup' is pretty easy to spot, but just in case; if you've taken Rulkan as a follower then she won't appear next to the campfire as shown in the guide's pic.

Comment by Paryah

Quick correction: the Lit Orb clue is "Passive Ice Veins," not "Icy."

Comment by mushu999

If you have learned the formula for striking can you put it on a scroll and use that?

Comment by Calisim

My hat is off to those who figured this thing out. And my thanks to you, and to those whose comments made things a little easier.

Comment by deerave

This is definitely true to it's name. You get the waist of time for a waste of your time.

Comment by Perothvius

Why always tailoring? i wont waste 20k gold on this...

Comment by DatRip

This might be a non-issue for most but if you intended to do this part on an alt after you obtained Baa'l than you will NOT be able to see the orbs. You have to either do this on the original character you when through the items to obtain Baa'l or run through the same steps with the alt before the orbs show up.

Comment by alunwifaire

***Just a note: Do NOT be in a party while doing this.***None of it seems to work at that point - at least, not for me.

Comment by Stormblink

The "Turtle Bringer" anagram perhaps references the game then the book. Goblins in Warcraft 2 turned Giant Turtles into Submarines in the game for Horde and is the most likely the reason. It's also the only Steamwheedle Cartel Goblin Town in the area that the Second War was fought.

Comment by jfrisby

Grimmy will not see you as a friend if the Windwool Hood you are wearing forged blue when crafted. You need the 109 green version.

Comment by Pinktail

on the grimmy part,if ur doing this during the zandalar xpack, ,remember go to 37.74,90.07 talk yo Zidormi get you back to the old version of Arathi Highlands

Comment by Gaviin

Is there an explanation of how all these steps were determined, particularly the Grimmy stuff? For example:

How did they figure out those four pieces of crafted gear to wear?

How did they figure out which "enemy" NPCs to interact with while having which random items in their bags?

How did they know to click the potato 144 times and none of the other rotting veggies scattered about the farm?

I would love to know, as it all seems incredibly random. It strains belief that anyone could legitimately figure this stuff out. But hey, I guess that makes it all the more impressive.

Comment by Panndemonium

There are more rotten vegetables than just Rotten Potatoes on the farm, so make sure you are clicking on potatoes because I did not :(

Comment by Panndemonium

There are more rotten vegetables than just Rotten Potatoes on the farm, so make sure you are clicking on potatoes because I did not :(

Comment by BrucePt2

I have a serious problem with the Waist of Time quest. Grimmy refuses to show up even after going back in time to the old Arathi. He phases in upon login for 3 seconds then vanishes (screenshotted right before he phased): https://imgur.com/u2bB3C8 Blizzard refuses to help me address it saying it is a secret. The last 7 (out of 43) steps are saying false, however all others are true when I run the script to check:

"/run local a,q=0,{{52819},{52809,52810},{52818,52812,-1},{53632,53634},{52827,52831},{52898,52922}} for x, y in ipairs(q) do for i = y, y or y, y or 1 do a=a+1 print("Step #"..a.." ("..i.."): "..tostring(IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(i))) end end"

I am not sure how you fix this and I feel like I do not have much help from Blizzard. Any suggestions?

Comment by BrucePt2

I have a serious problem with the Waist of Time quest. Grimmy refuses to show up even after going back in time to the old Arathi. He phases in upon login for 3 seconds then vanishes (screenshotted right before he phased): https://imgur.com/u2bB3C8 Blizzard refuses to help me address it saying it is a secret. The last 7 (out of 43) steps are saying false, however all others are true when I run the script to check:

"/run local a,q=0,{{52819},{52809,52810},{52818,52812,-1},{53632,53634},{52827,52831},{52898,52922}} for x, y in ipairs(q) do for i = y, y or y, y or 1 do a=a+1 print("Step #"..a.." ("..i.."): "..tostring(IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(i))) end end"

I am not sure how you fix this and I feel like I do not have much help from Blizzard. Any suggestions?

Comment by Caolynn

When you are doing the potato part. Make sure to go to exactly 88, 69 in the field. Turn your graphics setting down to ONE so you can see the potato. There will only be ONE single potato in the field ..so you can click it repeatedly to gain the 144 stack. Congrats on your Waist of Time !

Comment by YodasEvilTwin

"/way Kun'lai Summit 44 90" should be "/way Kun-Lai Summit 44 90"

Comment by DooM2407

Important side note: You can only see Grimmy in the "old" Arathi version. Go to Zidormi @ 37 90 to switch back and try again.