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Where is it written that a winter bike needs to be a piece of crap? What's wrong with titanium and robust tubs (with Vittoria Pit Stop along for the ride and a spare tub) on strong but light wheels? Does the trick for me, and all I have to do is swap the wheels for cyclocross. Quick hose down and GT85 after a particularly salty ride keeps all the nice bits nice. Not too much of a pain, and much more fun to ride than a heavy munter.

wasabi1 wrote:What's with all these ti, carbon and high-end groupsets?!

Is a winter bike not ment to be a piece of crap?

Sora. Held together by road dirt, rust and cable ties!

What happened to HTFU?! Hahaha.....

Even that is too good for a proper winterbike. In proper winter with salt and sandy roads after a few hours training my bike is all covered in rust and salt. Half of my winter bike after one winter is going to trash. It's an old rigid alu bike with Deore bought for 150EUR.Carbon rims and Campagnolo Records for winter bike? You guys seriously have too much money to play around.

Carbon, titanium and stainless steel don't rust. In theory therefore, they make the ideal winter bike, wheel and component material.

The monetary argument is a far more compelling reason not to use high end gear for the winter. Not everybody can justify it, but if you can afford to take the risk, why not ride something nice all year round?

Well, I can argue, but i'm not going to. It just a fact that in proper winter with bad quality dirty roads covered in sand and salt kills bike very quickly. A carbon wheel brake tracks would be destroyed before you know.