So I don't understand why some are saying Murray can't steal the no. 1 position from Nole this year. Let's say Murray wins Paris and Nole loses QF, that puts Murray ahead in the race and ranked No. 1 in the WTFs. Correct?

Now, assuming that's correct, if Murray does better than Nole in WTF as well, isn't he YE No.1 and official no. 1 till next year?

What am I missing here?

I don't know who's saying what but I can assure you Murray can finish this year as YE#1. No doubt about that. If everything goes his way (Paris W, WTF W (with a 3-0 RR), Djokovic does nothing) he'll be #1 with a margin of 1810 points.

He can also be #1 after this week. He just needs to do 416 points better than Djokovic to reach #1. Murray F Djokovic QF is enough. Also Murray W Djokovic SF.

Maybe the ones you're referring to was commenting on what they thought was likely, not what is possible

11-01-2016 04:10 PM

Mercury

Re: S.Q.T. (stupid question thread)

So I don't understand why some are saying Murray can't steal the no. 1 position from Nole this year. Let's say Murray wins Paris and Nole loses QF, that puts Murray ahead in the race and ranked No. 1 in the WTFs. Correct?

Now, assuming that's correct, if Murray does better than Nole in WTF as well, isn't he YE No.1 and official no. 1 till next year?

My perception is that there are a lot of 33+ aged players in the top 100, even the top 50..some playing very good tennis by their standards. Is this just a standard occurence or is there more player longevity now?

yes.
definitely a shift compared to previous decade.
And some of them achieving their career highs in their 30s.

My perception is that there are a lot of 33+ aged players in the top 100, even the top 50..some playing very good tennis by their standards. Is this just a standard occurence or is there more player longevity now?

You are quite right average age in the top xx(x) is older than it has been in the previous decades. As for the future, noone knows. Average age went up also in the late 60s and early 70s. Then it nosedived mid-70s. We could get another nosedive in a couple of years time. Or we could see average age growing yet older, or stabilize where it is now. Your guess is as good as mine.

11-01-2016 10:19 AM

Redolent

Re: S.Q.T. (stupid question thread)

My perception is that there are a lot of 33+ aged players in the top 100, even the top 50..some playing very good tennis by their standards. Is this just a standard occurence or is there more player longevity now?

Ok, what your said is probably right. The part which confused me the most is Murray's 275 points are counted in this year's championship points.

Since the DC final 2015 was held after WTF 2015 points gained there couldn't count towards the 2015 race. So they had to count for the 2016 race. Any result that gives you ATP points count for a race, question is just which one. Only exception is, of course, the WTF itself. Points gained there doesn't count towards any race. Hence the dropping of points one week early.

But being the best player of 2016 is about having the best results in 2016 and thus the 2015 DC final won't count towards that.

11-01-2016 08:20 AM

winderdancer

Re: Do Murray's Davids cup 275 points count for 2016 yearly No.1?

Ok, what your said is probably right. The part which confused me the most is Murray's 275 points are counted in this year's championship points.

Incorrect. Year End Number 1 has always been decided post Davis Cup since 2009 because it is the last competition where a Top 10 may compete during the year (it's always the last calendar event). Now, even if this year's Davis Cup final won't have any points, the year end number 1 is decided once last year's competition drops out.

Murray's 275 points will drop in November and won't be counted for year-end #1

Nole has a 690 point lead, which will continue to grow until Nole clinches really soon.

Incorrect. Year End Number 1 has always been decided post Davis Cup since 2009 because it is the last competition where a Top 10 may compete during the year (it's always the last calendar event). Now, even if this year's Davis Cup final won't have any points, the year end number 1 is decided once last year's competition drops out.

11-01-2016 07:08 AM

nolevolent

Re: Do Murray's Davids cup 275 points count for 2016 yearly No.1?

Murray's 275 points will drop in November and won't be counted for year-end #1

Nole has a 690 point lead, which will continue to grow until Nole clinches really soon.

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