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I dont know why people keep posting a link which is not at all understood by all since it is a forum for all.
Please i request you all who post a link which is not at all understandable by all to translate it for the sake of everybody in the world to know the contents.

Zhang Ning was divorced in 2010 and remarried recently. This is the background of his current husband. He is 48 y.o. and was a teammate and old friend of LYB. He is based in Germany. He founded a company which is a distributor for Li-Ning in Europe. He helped arranging for the surgeries of WL and WX in Germany.

Zhang Ning has not won All England, Asian Games and World Cup. Her failure to win the All England is forever a mystery.

Ye Zhaoying is the best player back then but she failed to win an Olympic gold and Asian Games Gold.

Bang Soo Hyun has one gold,one silver Olympic medal and won the Asian Games gold but she never won World Championship.

Susi Susanti was internationally dominant but she failed to win Asian Games gold twice (1990 and 1994) she ended up as bronze medallists. So she cannot considered a Grand Slam winner like Lin Dan.

Tang Jiuhong (a player who was completely overshadowed and neglected because of Ye Zhaoying and other upcoming players) won a world championship, Asian Games gold medal 1990. The last title she never won was the Olympic gold and she finished with a bronze 1992. Had she won that, she would be a Grand Slam Winner.

Wang Yihan IS the modern day women singles player who have won everything too (the last World Cup edition, All England, World Championship) except an Olympic gold medal (twarted by Li Xuerui) and Asian Games gold medal (taken over by Wang Shixian).

So it's not possible to determine who is the best of the best because none of them have achieved perfection and completion in their major tournaments.

What you say makes sense - all the above is missing something, unlike Lin Dan who has won everything and more to spare. That's why Lin Dan is The Greatest Ever.

But to me, Zhang Ning is still very special in that she could do what no other at her age could, that in itself is a phenomenon. As to who I think is the greatest WS? I don't know but I'm sure in future someone will emerge to convince everyone she is The One.

What you say makes sense - all the above is missing something, unlike Lin Dan who has won everything and more to spare. That's why Lin Dan is The Greatest Ever. But to me, Zhang Ning is still very special in that she could do what no other at her age could, that in itself is a phenomenon. As to who I think is the greatest WS? I don't know but I'm sure in future someone will emerge to convince everyone she is The One.

Of course LLW is the greatest. World #1 in WS (also in WD ; means she is not focus in WS only), World Champion, and also the most important thing, 4 titles in Indonesia Open. Remember, it is very difficult to win in Jakarta with the crowd like that. The most extreme crowd in the world. Except her, no other foreign WS that can win Ina Open 4 times, especially when the crowd are against you . also, 3 titles in a row before she retired. Who else can match LLW supremacy ? No one

What you say makes sense - all the above is missing something, unlike Lin Dan who has won everything and more to spare. That's why Lin Dan is The Greatest Ever.

not really if you ask me. he still lack 1 EAG MS gold title. hehe.

But to me, Zhang Ning is still very special in that she could do what no other at her age could, that in itself is a phenomenon. As to who I think is the greatest WS? I don't know but I'm sure in future someone will emerge to convince everyone she is The One.

the that 'The One' must be very really special, to can surpassed all great names above achievements. hope i can live long enough to see her come to this arena.

Of course LLW is the greatest. World #1 in WS (also in WD ; means she is not focus in WS only), World Champion, and also the most important thing, 4 titles in Indonesia Open. Remember, it is very difficult to win in Jakarta with the crowd like that. The most extreme crowd in the world. Except her, no other foreign WS that can win Ina Open 4 times, especially when the crowd are against you . also, 3 titles in a row before she retired. Who else can match LLW supremacy ? No one

Saina already won indonesia open 3 times. She is 22. I hope she will do it further more in her career.. Just for your information.. Nothing offense..

the that 'The One' must be very really special, to can surpassed all great names above achievements. hope i can live long enough to see her come to this arena.

Lin Dan already won the Asia Games gold in 2010 beating Lee CW - you can find the match on youtube, great battle.

Whatever, to me,it's not necessary to win everything. Lin Dan's 2 OG and 4 WC are more than enough, nobody even comes close. And his H2H against his contemporaries, esp his closest rivals, is already an unmatched record.I'm even more impressed by the way he plays. In fact, as far as I'm concerned, he need not win anything more from now on and still remain The Greatest of All Time.

Of course LLW is the greatest. World #1 in WS (also in WD ; means she is not focus in WS only), World Champion, and also the most important thing, 4 titles in Indonesia Open. Remember, it is very difficult to win in Jakarta with the crowd like that. The most extreme crowd in the world. Except her, no other foreign WS that can win Ina Open 4 times, especially when the crowd are against you. also, 3 titles in a row before she retired. Who else can match LLW supremacy ? No one

Originally Posted by scorpion1

Saina already won indonesia open 3 times. She is 22. I hope she will do it further more in her career.. Just for your information.. Nothing offense..

But Saina won it 3 times through the support of Indonesia's crowd whom I say, the most extreme crowd in world of badminton. Totally differentwith the Chinese players (incl. LLW of course) whom are Ina's players arch rival. In INA open 2009 & 2012, the crowd support Saina and against the Chinese (Wang Lin & Li Xuerui). And don't forget, LLW not focus in WS only, but she still can win 3 titles in a row in just 3 weeks, plus the #1 status for long time. No one can match LLW superiority

Zhang Ning was divorced in 2010 and remarried recently. This is the background of his current husband. He is 48 y.o. and was a teammate and old friend of LYB. He is based in Germany. He founded a company which is a distributor for Li-Ning in Europe. He helped arranging for the surgeries of WL and WX in Germany.

So her current husband lives in Germany now. That will be tough. If ZN continues to be coaching the Chinese team, there will be very limited time they can be together, and it's not good for the baby girls also. I wonder if ZN is considering coaching the German WS team.

Actually LD also never won Singapore open / SS, Malaysia and Indonesia title. I think it is more valuable than EAG, and it is more difficult to win, especially in INA and MAS. That's why I said no one can win all of them, so lets count the number of major titles to decided who is the the most successful MS or WS of all time. The result is : Lin Dan in MS, and Zhang Ning in WS

If anyone can't handle the crowd, they don't deserve to be called a champion.

this is not usual. Crowd in Ina is the most extreme in the world, even MAS 1994 Thomas Cup member was very affraid, not to mention the female Chinese players. Most of the players can handle the crowd in Japan, Korea and other places, bcoz they are not wild. Off topic : and it shows how great LLW is . 4 Indonesia open titles and 1989 World Championships title in Jakarta, facing against the wild crowd

Originally Posted by madbad

To call the crowd uncivilized is an insult to Indonesia. On the contrary, the atmosphere generated was electric and this is what badminton should be about.

Originally Posted by madbad

If you want silence, go play in your own backyard.

China, Korea and Japan crowd not silence. they just support their idol in normal way, just like in Denmark and AE. not extreme just like in Ina. Why INA crowd can't act like that ? No wonder if they called : uncivilized.