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@Shoe .. brother, don't forget the O-Coordinator ... I mean daaaang .. I thought I could call all of Arian's plays. I just knew today that on 3rd and long we would try the WR Screen ... heck, I called the screens in dang near EVERY situation that we used them. If I can sit on my couch, drinking a beer and call our plays .. I'm sure the Raiders D knew what was coming. Haley has to go just as much as LeBeau.
And btw, does it seem to anyone else that the whole offense is doing "just enough" to be able to say that they are "trying", while at the same time "trying" means "trying to get Haley fired"? Kind of a passive/aggressive approach to showing how much they hate the guy?!!

Well, while I'm not a proponent of the bubble screen and such, I'm still a holdout for not canning Haley just yet. I hate to blame it on a lifer like Lebeau, but to me, it is fairly obvious that football coaching is not exempt from the effects of getting older. And in that regard, I'm not at all averse to older coaches sticking around and helping where they can (e.g. defensive advisor, positions coach). As a coordinator though, no one can prove to me that a 70-year old's mind can keep up with young, energetic, active minds of people much younger.

I am aware. Just don't think TM's job is safe if he strings two of these kinds of seasons together.

Why not? Cowher went 6-10 & 7-9 in consecutive seasons...with that in mind I think Tomlin is safe. However if I was Haley, I'd start ordering packing boxes.

Last edited by Steel Life; 10-27-2013 at 11:54 PM.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust & sweat & blood...

Why not? Cowher went 6-10 & 7-9 in consecutive seasons...with that in mind I think Tomlinson is safe. However if I was Haley, I'd start ordering packing boxes.

It comes down to whether the Rooneys have faith in Tomlin that he can turn things around. I have my doubts because I don't see any plan in action, improvements, leadership, preparation, and the ability to build a team and our depth (or lack thereof) is a clear indication of that. Our play over the last 1.5 years is an indication of that.

I think the Rooneys have their doubts and I think it's very evident. When your HC isn't allowed to hire his own OC then that tells you something. It doesn't get any more obvious than that.

If the Rooneys had their doubts, I don't think that they would have shelled out the cash during contract time. But maybe it's time to let the man sink or swim and you can't do that firing and hiring his assistance.