Demi Lovato ‘Savvier’ Than Miley Cyrus

Demi Lovato‘s transition from Disney star to pop singer was ‘savvier’ than Miley Cyrus’, reports New York Times. Embracing unairbrushed moments has become a defining characteristic of Ms. Lovato, 20, one that has helped propel her back into the spotlight after a sudden fall from grace (in late 2010, she entered rehab for issues related to an eating disorder and cutting) that brought her career, which accelerated on the Disney Channel, to a halt.

Rather than adhere to the Hollywood playbook of dismissing or softening the facts, Ms. Lovato has openly aired her troubles, tweeting to her 12 million fans about how she spent New Year’s Eve in rehab, and talking to Katie Couric about feeling fat while still in diapers. Instead of tarnishing her image, these candid revelations seem to have bolstered her. She is in negotiations to return as a judge for the next season of the Fox reality singing show ‘The X Factor.’ She was arguably the breakout star of the show last winter. And her new song, “Heart Attack,” was No. 1 on iTunes its first week of release. Some critics compare her to the reality-show hall-of-famer Kelly Clarkson.

Ms. Lovato’s second act stands in vivid contrast to that of Miley Cyrus, Ms. Lovato’s direct predecessor in the Disney ranks. Ms. Cyrus’s transition from teen queen to adult star was marred by a steady drip, drip of scandalous revelations and a near-nude photo spread in Vanity Fair, which left many of her fans feeling alienated and confused; her record sales plummeted. Her approach has proved far savvier, as was her decision to use ‘X Factor,’ which last season averaged eight million viewers, as a comeback vehicle. Nowhere did she seem more ‘authentic,’ as her handlers like to say, than on that show, emerging as a lively, relatable judge who was far more at ease than her fellow panelist Britney Spears.

While Ms. Spears offered terse, generic-sounding critiques to contestants and appeared to be in a state of quiet distress throughout the season (she is not returning), Demi was a nurturing den mother, at one point walking on stage to console a crying singer, Jillian Jensen, who said she had been bullied at school. (Ms. Lovato attributes her own struggles to being bullied when she was 12.) Full article HERE!

She cut herself, did drugs, was anorexic, and drug addict and went to rehab. Nothing about that is “savvy” or “smooth”. People just simply thought it was a good transition cuz she took the responsibility to get help and then we she resurfaced people felt bad for her and looked at her as an inspirtation.

Now Demi’s back to singing the same old boring, meaningless music. SORRY NOT SORRY. Just facts.

Anonymous

Miley’s eyes… gorgeous! OMG! Fuck the “savvy” shit. Miley’s not only more beautiful than Demi, she’s more successful as well. Just saying.

Anonymous

Miley’s behavior over the last several years has spiraled out of control. She pretty much alienated the majority of her fanbase with her antics and never really progressed as an artist. (Although time will tell if this new album of hers changes that.) But she’s a big personality. And when you’re as huge as she was you don’t just fade overnight. She’s a total wild child though and while there are a ton of people who love her for it, there are also a ton of people who DON’T. That’s just the way it is. Demi seems to put a little more effort into being relatable, her music has mass appeal, and through everything she’s stayed pretty down to earth. She shared her struggles and used things (that potentially could have been more scandalous than any of Miley’s drama) to her advantage. Her problems became her way of reaching out and connecting with people. And her personality is way less abrasive. It’s really a no-brainer deciding which one of them has made the smoother transition.

TheSugarVenom

MileyIsASkank said:
both girls are big hoes
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Can someone exterminate this trolling Selena stan? I thought her delusional stans were all in contention.

Anonymous

Anonymous said:
DEMI IS A GIRL AMAZING, ROLE MODEL AND INSPIRATION FOR MANY PEOPLE
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And so is Miley whether or not she’s one to you.

TheSugarVenom

Anonymous said:
Ok, i’m gonna be bitchy. Even though Lovato is talented people still think about her as a ‘good girl’ because they pity her rehab situation. Her tour numbers are pretty mediocre and she’s out of place sitting besides the Pop Princess on The X Factor.
She’s the ‘victim’ and Miley’s the ‘hoe’ simply because Cyrus it’s unapologetic instead of acting like “poor me!”.
I adore Demi but let’s not even…
The “Miley’s ‘scandalous’ ways” excuse it’s still so stupid to this day, i can’t deal -_-
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This! PREACH!!!!

Anonymous

Had Demi not gone to rehab by pressure of her friends and family she’d be 10x more “fucked up” than Miley.

Miley’s smoked pot and shit. But she never did so much she got addicted or cut herself and was anorexic.

Demi’s only slightly respected because people felt bad for her.

Anonymous

Lol. Like Miley gives a rats fuck that people consider her best friend to be “savvier”. What does that word even fucking mean. What a horrible choice of words.

Miley may regret her mistakes but she doesn’t apologize, because that’s what all the winey haters want to hear and she’s in no way trying to satisfy assholes who don’t actually give a shit about her.

Miley’s CONFIDENT and doesn’t give a fuck what any of you think. Demi’s much more self-consience. Her and Selena are still robots to Disney and they do everything just to please anybody but them. It’s pretty sad, because they’re not yet real women who can make their own choices without feeling the need to apologize even if they don’t mean it.

Every week is “bash Miley week” on this shitty site. The majority of this site’s users are all bored Selena stans who love tearing Miley down because their pressed not being able to face the fact that the world has forgotten about irrelevant Slutlena.

Anonymous

I think selena gets way more hate then cyrus or lovato. After reading comments for about 4 years now I would say the mass majority of oceanup users are Miley and Jonas fans.

Anonymous

LOL she’s more savvier?

OR Demi just has better management team helping and covering for her, remember those blind items saying she’s been to rehab 3 times.

Anonymous

No, don’t be fooled. Demi is a liar and so are her publicists. She probably had drug withdrawl issues even since she left rehab. Her publicists will lie for the sake of her image.

Anonymous

That’s a awful photoshop photo or Demi has a manly hand and arm… -_-

Anonymous

her decision to use ‘X Factor,’ which last season averaged eight million viewers, as a comeback vehicle.
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But the X Factor season she was on still had lower viewers than last season’s viewers and it also couldn’t manage to beat The Voice’s 10million+> ratings…

Anonymous

Anonymous said:

Anonymous said:

Nice photoshop OU. Love the monkey in the backround and Demi’s arm doesn’t match her body position or size.
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Lmao the random monkey!
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LOL never noticed it till now.

Anonymousjen

Good for Demi , I don’t have to talk cause Demi didn’t write it so why hate. The truth Miley has done nothing lately .

Anonymous

love the praise.. btw, nytimes have been praising Demi since 09. so, no.. it’s not because they feel sorry fory her, that they respect her.

Anonymous

Ok, i’m gonna be bitchy. Even though Lovato is talented people still think about her as a ‘good girl’ because they pity her rehab situation. Her tour numbers are pretty mediocre and she’s out of place sitting besides the Pop Princess on The X Factor.
She’s the ‘victim’ and Miley’s the ‘hoe’ simply because Cyrus it’s unapologetic instead of acting like “poor me!”.
I adore Demi but let’s not even…
The “Miley’s ‘scandalous’ ways” excuse it’s still so stupid to this day, i can’t deal -_-
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or because they respect how she’s honest about her situation.. not neccessarily pity her. just deal with it.

Anonymous

But the X Factor season she was on still had lower viewers than last season’s viewers and it also couldn’t manage to beat The Voice’s 10million+> ratings…
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but it was great for Demi’s career… it oponed doors for her, made her more known & made her constantly be in the spotlight.
so, yes, x factor WAS and will continue to be good for her.

Anonymous

miley is just out of control & thinks she does no wrong, tbh.. she’s very self-defensive.. extremely, i’d say. she always has an excuse as to why she acts or says the stuff she does.

Anonymous

Demi’s only slightly respected because people felt bad for her.
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respected as a person or singer? because she was respected by critics as a singer BEFORE rehab.. she’s the teen/former teen star with the most points by critics, nytimes praised the crap out of her BEFORE rehab, and people DO respect her as a singer/musician because she IS talented.. they’ve heard her sing/her songs(even if they first heard about her because of her issues), not just because of rehab. some ppl respect her as a person because she was very honest about her issues and what she went through, not because they feel sorry for her. ppl need to stop using that excuse as to why she’s doing so well, right now. it’s getting old.

Anonymous

Miley’s behavior over the last several years has spiraled out of control. She pretty much alienated the majority of her fanbase with her antics and never really progressed as an artist. (Although time will tell if this new album of hers changes that.) But she’s a big personality. And when you’re as huge as she was you don’t just fade overnight. She’s a total wild child though and while there are a ton of people who love her for it, there are also a ton of people who DON’T. That’s just the way it is. Demi seems to put a little more effort into being relatable, her music has mass appeal, and through everything she’s stayed pretty down to earth. She shared her struggles and used things (that potentially could have been more scandalous than any of Miley’s drama) to her advantage. Her problems became her way of reaching out and connecting with people. And her personality is way less abrasive. It’s really a no-brainer deciding which one of them has made the smoother transition.
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i totally agree.

Anonymous

Savvier: Shrewd and knowledgeable in the realities of life.

for you kiddies.

btw, i agree with the full article. pretty great article about how Demi’s been doing lately, without disney.

Anonymous

Now Demi’s back to singing the same old boring, meaningless music. SORRY NOT SORRY. Just facts.
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those aren’t facts, that is YOUR OPINION. her music is not meaningless and it’s YOUR OPINION if it’s boring. period. now go back to being pressed about this article.

Anonymous

I think the difference is Demi addresses rumors and opens up about her issues, whereas Miley (who broadcasts so much of her life on social media) dismisses every criticism of her “scandalous” behavior by claiming she’s living her life, and doesn’t take any responsibility for the example she’s setting for her fans. She doesn’t think she has to be a good role model (and to be fair, she doesn’t) but that kind of unapologetic attitude has its consequences.
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exactly.

Lu

“Demi’s only slightly respected because people felt bad for her.”

Oh, really?!

July 15, 2009:
“(…)Ms. Lovato is already proving to be far more intriguing, and far less predictable.”
” A fan of heavy metal who covers Aretha Franklin in concert and has written, by her count, several hundred songs, Ms. Lovato is the most exciting of the [Disney] company’s musical stars.”

I think the difference is Demi addresses rumors and opens up about her issues, whereas Miley (who broadcasts so much of her life on social media) dismisses every criticism of her “scandalous” behavior by claiming she’s living her life, and doesn’t take any responsibility for the example she’s setting for her fans. She doesn’t think she has to be a good role model (and to be fair, she doesn’t) but that kind of unapologetic attitude has its consequences.

Anonymous

WTF — what is this bash Miley week?

Anonymous

Nice photoshop OU. Love the monkey in the backround and Demi’s arm doesn’t match her body position or size.

Anonymous

Anonymous said:

WTF — what is this bash Miley week?
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Every day it’s that week in OU -_-.

Anonymous

Anonymous said:

Nice photoshop OU. Love the monkey in the backround and Demi’s arm doesn’t match her body position or size.
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Lmao the random monkey!

SubwayToVenus

I think the difference is Miley constantly talks about how fine and happy and healthy she is when she displays the contraty on her Twitter account and with her every move whereas Demi has been really open about it all and acts like she holds regret even if she doesn’t.

MileyIsASkank

both girls are big hoes

Anonymous

Shut Up you annoying ugly degenerate creature.

Anonymous

Miley is just so fucking narcissistic. I mean look at her twitter lately: all she talks about is how amazing her new music is (which no one has even heard yet) and how rich, “dope”, hot, and generally “badass” she is. She is do in love with herself that it’s nauseating. There’s a difference between confident and conceited. Miley thinks of herself as God’s gift to man, and to her, everything she does is amazing and totally fine. She DOESN’T accept responsibility for her actions. She’s gotten so bitchy on twitter lately and her attitude just sucks in general.

Anonymous

Anonymous said:

Miley is just so fucking narcissistic. I mean look at her twitter lately: all she talks about is how amazing her new music is (which no one has even heard yet) and how rich, “dope”, hot, and generally “badass” she is. She is do in love with herself that it’s nauseating. There’s a difference between confident and conceited. Miley thinks of herself as God’s gift to man, and to her, everything she does is amazing and totally fine. She DOESN’T accept responsibility for her actions. She’s gotten so bitchy on twitter lately and her attitude just sucks in general.
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Block her, take your pills and move on with your life. Maybe if you are not over her freaking twitter it’ll go away. Easy solution.

Anonymous

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Lol. Both the same person. I can tell because both comments have the same horrible grammar and spelling… Then again, most Lovatics and Selenators can’t spell.

Because Miley is proud of her music, doesn’t make her “narcissistic”. Do you even know what that fucking word means or did you just need an excuse to use some big vocabulary word you learned this week in English 7?

Lol. Cut the bullshit, you guys are idiots.

-TheSugarVenom (xo)
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I wrote the first post about Miley being narcissistic. NOT the second one, because you know what? I don’t give a shit about Demi or Selena. They’re both totally irrelevant to me. Notice I didn’t mention either of them in my comment. I’ve always liked Miley but the point I was making is that her personality has totally turned me off lately.

And yes, I accidentally typed “do” instead of “so.” The letters are right fucking next to each other on the keyboard…what a terrible spelling mistake. Other than that, please point out all my other “horrible grammar and spelling.” While I like the fact that the person who commented on my post agrees with me, I’ll admit they do have some spelling/grammatical errors in their post. WHO FUCKING CARES?! This is the internet, not English class (I took AP English in high school by the way and exempted out of my college intro English courses).

So why don’t YOU cut the bullshit (which, by the way, when you said that, you referred to me and the other person as “you guys,” which proves that you just said the whole “same person” thing to be a bitch, or you’re just as stupid as you sound)?

Do YOU even know what “narcissistic” means? FYI it’s EXACTLY the word I meant to use. Miley has become just another totally self-centered, vain popstar with an ego the size of Jupiter. Yeah, she adopts dogs and went to Haiti once or twice. But it seems to me like all she cares about now is Miley.

Bottom line: I hardly ever comment on OU, and when I do, it’s because I feel really strongly about something. Miley is the only person I even look at on OU. I’m not a “Lovatic” or a “Selenator.” I’m just a fan of Miley’s who would like to be able to continue being a fan because of her qualities that have always stood out to me…not for who she is now.

both girls are so much talented. demi sings way better than miley though but miley’s a better performer. I think is really stupid fight about it bc both girls are really close friends so, whats the point? tbh, miley can sell more records but demi’s being taken more seriously by the press these days. so yeah, STOP the hate!!!

Anonymous

Lu said:
“Demi’s only slightly respected because people felt bad for her.”

Oh, really?!

July 15, 2009:
“(…)Ms. Lovato is already proving to be far more intriguing, and far less predictable.”
” A fan of heavy metal who covers Aretha Franklin in concert and has written, by her count, several hundred songs, Ms. Lovato is the most exciting of the [Disney] company’s musical stars.”
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Lol. I love how you try to disprove my point with the OPINION of some irrelevant “medalhead”. Who cares, just like me, that bitch you claim to be well-respected has her opinions of Demi and I have mine. I personally think she’s full of shit and Demi’s not predictable OR unpredictable. She’s just an average pop star with little to no staying power.

Anonymous

Actually, I think Selena has the best songs out of all the Disney stars. I think they’re well constructed and thought-out (musically). However, Selena can’t sing, so, it downgrades her songs’ quality. It’s unfortunate.
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It’s cuz she doesn’t even write her songs. She buys scrapped songs from other artists. lol. And they’re STILL pretty bad.

TheSugarVenom

Anonymous said:
Miley is just so fucking narcissistic. I mean look at her twitter lately: all she talks about is how amazing her new music is (which no one has even heard yet) and how rich, “dope”, hot, and generally “badass” she is. She is do in love with herself that it’s nauseating. There’s a difference between confident and conceited. Miley thinks of herself as God’s gift to man, and to her, everything she does is amazing and totally fine. She DOESN’T accept responsibility for her actions. She’s gotten so bitchy on twitter lately and her attitude just sucks in general.
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agree. and she’s such an attention-whore. i like her, but lets be real. she’s so annoying on twitter. Demi used to be annoying back in 09, too. selena would always indirect people(and say she was hacked) but i never saw her getting shit for it. biasedness. i’m loving Demi’s attitude, lately.
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Lol. Both the same person. I can tell because both comments have the same horrible grammar and spelling… Then again, most Lovatics and Selenators can’t spell.

Because Miley is proud of her music, doesn’t make her “narcissistic”. Do you even know what they fucking word means or did you just need an excuse to learn some big vocabulary word you learned thing week in English 7?

Lol. Cut the bullshit, you guys are idiots.

-TheSugarVenom (xo)

Anonymous

Anonymous said:
Miley is just so fucking narcissistic. I mean look at her twitter lately: all she talks about is how amazing her new music is (which no one has even heard yet) and how rich, “dope”, hot, and generally “badass” she is. She is do in love with herself that it’s nauseating. There’s a difference between confident and conceited. Miley thinks of herself as God’s gift to man, and to her, everything she does is amazing and totally fine. She DOESN’T accept responsibility for her actions. She’s gotten so bitchy on twitter lately and her attitude just sucks in general.
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agree. and she’s such an attention-whore. i like her, but lets be real. she’s so annoying on twitter. Demi used to be annoying back in 09, too. selena would always indirect people(and say she was hacked) but i never saw her getting shit for it. biasedness. i’m loving Demi’s attitude, lately.
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Lol. Both the same person. I can tell because both comments have the same horrible grammar and spelling… Then again, most Lovatics and Selenators can’t spell.

Because Miley is proud of her music, doesn’t make her “narcissistic”. Do you even know what that fucking word means or did you just need an excuse to use some big vocabulary word you learned this week in English 7?

Lol. Cut the bullshit, you guys are idiots.

-TheSugarVenom (xo)

Anonymous

How is Miley out of control?

Haylor4lyfe

Demi and Miley are two completely different people, whom are both talented in their own ways, quit comparing and bashing. There’s no need for “battle of the Stan’s” haha.

Anonymous

I like them both so I won’t say shit about either

Anonymous

I find miley way better than Demi vocally because miley has a unique voice which I love while Demi just trying to be Kelly clarckson and that’s not unique for that I buy Kelly songs which are better sang and better lyrics

As for miley scandals really semi nude I seen Selena wear outfit like that nobody says anything and she still link to disney miley has been quiet is it her fault paps follow her every wear

As for the pass years miley took a year to do charity work something that Selena and Demi never has done but of course the media don’t say the good miley does and then miley has been doing contracts to transfer from holly wood records and disney and that transition takes year to do now that she finally has RCA as her company and her new manager things will start again with her songs,that’s we’re her passion is!

Anonymous

Is there some other kind of word than vocabulary word? I don’t think so. Let’s see, Mileystans; potty mouths; no difference by your standards.

Anonymous

Miley is 100% anorexic and she need help, she’s a total mess and before you all said it, i’m no Demi or Selena fan.

Lu

Lol. I love how you try to disprove my point with the OPINION of some irrelevant “medalhead”. Who cares, just like me, that bitch you claim to be well-respected has her opinions of Demi and I have mine. I personally think she’s full of shit and Demi’s not predictable OR unpredictable. She’s just an average pop star with little to no staying power.

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Oh yeah, cause your opinion in a comment in a web page is way more relevant than a article in The New York Times… hahahaha… LOL…
Ok, You’re right… You can have your opnion and hate on Demi, but don’t be blind… She’s has always been respected by critics… it’s just a fact… And NO… it is not because “people felt bad for her”…

Anonymous

Literally 90% of the Smilers love Demi and viceversa as i’ve seen so this attempt won’t go further. Cute try, ou.

Anonymous

Miley is 100% anorexic and she need help….
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And you’re a complete fucking asshole!!! You’re the one that needs help missy.

Anonymous

Anonymous said:

I think selena gets way more hate then cyrus or lovato. After reading comments for about 4 years now I would say the mass majority of oceanup users are Miley and Jonas fans.
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Maybe you’re right about the users. But the Selena hate never was a thing here. Miley gets more hate by far, so you’re incorrect. She has literally devoted haters that come here every day and in a creepy way they know everything about her and her career. People never really went after Selena in general until that happened. And the user GorgeousSelena was a joke for the users, basically. Demi gets hate occasionally. Bieber all the time because it’s so rare to find people who like him here. The Jonas are attacked by their own ex-fans because of the Blanda thing.

Anonymous

To be honest, many people didn’t even pay attention to Demi before she went to rehab. Critics dismissed her, she was irrelevant. The rehab and personal redemption was PR dream. Free press. But I think Demi is an enormous hypocrite. For years her publicists denied that she was snorting crack and drinking alcohol while she put up this ridiculous image for her fans. She’s a joke in my eyes. You guys do know that it’s fans who ultimately paid for the drugs she got high off of?

Personally, I don’t want to know about a celebrity’s personal life. I certainly don’t like when they make stuff up about themselves to look good and do just the opposite behind closed doors.

I am a huge fan of Miley and I think she’s the most talented person to come out of Disney. Those sales “plummets” they describe are only relative. She ALWAYS sold a ton of records for each album(more than Demi has in her entire career). I love Miley’s voice and performance style, she’s a natural on stage. It’s something you can’t teach. She didn’t need the scandals or a subpar singing competition to have a big career. Miley’s career came from her talent and if she can get past the current drama, I hope for a smashing return in 2013. Team Miley!

Anonymous

Demi blows Miley away in the songwriting department. Miley is not a good songwriter. Any thing good that she’s ever sung was written by someone else. “7 Things” should get an award for being the worst written song by a Disney star (although it would be tied with some of Selena’s songs). Demi & Miley have about the same vocal talent. They both have pretty good voices, but with chipmunk overtones.

Anonymous

You can’t compare their songwriting. We haven’t seen Miley’s completely self-penned songs.

7 Things is not worst song put out by a Disney star… It may not be the best, but it’s certainly not the worst.

Actually, I think Selena has the best songs out of all the Disney stars. I think they’re well constructed and thought-out (musically). However, Selena can’t sing, so, it downgrades her songs’ quality. It’s unfortunate.

Miley has this indescribable charisma when she sings. That’s what made her so famous. She’s extremely underrated (vocally) because no one can sing her songs like she does. She puts a special touch on them because never have I heard a good cover of Party in the USA.

i think Demi is MUCH more talented than miley when it comes to music. her and nick are the most talented musicians to come out of disney. demi being more of a singer, though, nick’s voice has improved A LOT. he’s not whiny, anymore.

Anonymous

She didn’t need the scandals

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oh really? lol

Anonymous

Miley is just so fucking narcissistic. I mean look at her twitter lately: all she talks about is how amazing her new music is (which no one has even heard yet) and how rich, “dope”, hot, and generally “badass” she is. She is do in love with herself that it’s nauseating. There’s a difference between confident and conceited. Miley thinks of herself as God’s gift to man, and to her, everything she does is amazing and totally fine. She DOESN’T accept responsibility for her actions. She’s gotten so bitchy on twitter lately and her attitude just sucks in general.
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agree. and she’s such an attention-whore. i like her, but lets be real. she’s so annoying on twitter. Demi used to be annoying back in 09, too. selena would always indirect people(and say she was hacked) but i never saw her getting shit for it. biasedness. i’m loving Demi’s attitude, lately.

Anonymous

Maybe you’re right about the users. But the Selena hate never was a thing here. Miley gets more hate by far, so you’re incorrect. She has literally devoted haters that come here every day and in a creepy way they know everything about her and her career. People never really went after Selena in general until that happened. And the user GorgeousSelena was a joke for the users, basically. Demi gets hate occasionally. Bieber all the time because it’s so rare to find people who like him here. The Jonas are attacked by their own ex-fans because of the Blanda thing.
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yup. miley’s the most hated by the general public, selena is only hated by beliebers, some smilers and some lovatics.. Demi gets a lot of trolls hating on her weight or stuff that they know will get her or her fans mad/upset, bieber is hated by most male population and the jonas.. well.. they’re not that relevant right now. though, joe’s always gotten hate by lovatics. joe-hoes hate Demi, too.

Anonymous

Ok, i’m gonna be bitchy. Even though Lovato is talented people still think about her as a ‘good girl’ because they pity her rehab situation. Her tour numbers are pretty mediocre and she’s out of place sitting besides the Pop Princess on The X Factor.
She’s the ‘victim’ and Miley’s the ‘hoe’ simply because Cyrus it’s unapologetic instead of acting like “poor me!”.
I adore Demi but let’s not even…
The “Miley’s ‘scandalous’ ways” excuse it’s still so stupid to this day, i can’t deal -_-