Mark Kelly, husband of Gabrielle Gifford, bought a .45 and an AR15 the day after he testified that people don't need them. Said he wanted to learn about gun laws. Also said he wanted to show how easy it was to buy them and show how lax the background checks are. Of course it's easy to buy them when you don't have a criminal record. I think he was buying them for home defense and came up with a cover story when he was found out. Dude, there's no shame in buying guns for self defense. Millions of other people have done the same after being victimized by gun wielding criminals. As for his plan to "surrender them to police"? What he's doing is making a $2-3,000 donation to his local police department.

Why doesn't he talk to his buddy Feinstein and ask her to turn in her concealed carry permit? There are no carry permits in civilian hands in San Francisco... None. Hypocrisy runs deep in the anti-gun lobby...

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Foxfur wrote:Mark Kelly, husband of Gabrielle Gifford, bought a .45 and an AR15 the day after he testified that people don't need them. Said he wanted to learn about gun laws. Also said he wanted to show how easy it was to buy them and show how lax the background checks are. Of course it's easy to buy them when you don't have a criminal record. I think he was buying them for home defense and came up with a cover story when he was found out. Dude, there's no shame in buying guns for self defense. Millions of other people have done the same after being victimized by gun wielding criminals. As for his plan to "surrender them to police"? What he's doing is making a $2-3,000 donation to his local police department.

Why doesn't he talk to his buddy Feinstein and ask her to turn in her concealed carry permit? There are no carry permits in civilian hands in San Francisco... None. Hypocrisy runs deep in the anti-gun lobby...

interesting gun laws. bought 2 last week, an AR-15 and a .45 1911 auto pistol. live in WA, but I purchased in OR. I could walk out with the AR, 30 round mags, or a Barrett .50BMG, or a semi-auto .30 cal belt fed machine gun. BUT the pistol has to be transferred to a WA FFL and I pick it up there. go figure, maybe Finestine will fix that.....

Yeah, that's mostly federal law, and sometimes you have to deal with state law too.

I hope everyone is lobbying every representative they have a chance to call.I talked to cali D Mike Thompson's office the other day.I mentioned how california's failure to recognize other state's laws is hurting tourism, besides their own constituents.I am emphasizing that this is not a fight to preserve existing law, but to change it all now.

Usually when a criminal doesn't have a gun, it's because they can't hang onto one due to its value.And habitual criminals are usually prohibited from having any firearm at all.

Banned persons may have a gun, but only carry it when they expect to use it.

Then there is the psychological element that some criminals don't think you will shoot them or it won't hurt them, or that they will get there first.They are sometimes right.

Talking to a career cop recently, he often felt that a handgun had no intimidation value.He specifically mentioned a drunk domestic that he feels would have required killing the man if they hadn't pulled out shotguns.The man was sitting on the porch drunk when they arrived, and holding a pistol.Two shotguns chambered and he dropped the gun.This is the typical self defense use of a weapon in the usa, without firing a shot.

And many criminals are aware that if you close with a knife, you can quickly do more damage than with most handguns.

Here's a classic crazy knife attack. (In a good neighborhood, by the way.)I think some people threw things at the attacker, trying to stop him.http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nat ... bing_x.htmhttp://www.wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5180897Ingram, chasing one victim into the store's parking lot, was subdued by Chris Cope, manager of a financial services office in the same small shopping center.Cope said he grabbed a 9mm semiautomatic pistol from his pickup when he saw the attacker chasing the victim "like something in a serial killer movie.""When he turned around and saw my pistol, he threw the knife away, put his hands up and got on the ground," Cope told The Associated Press. "He saw my gun and that was pretty much it."

There are multiple videos on the web of public knife attacks and unarmed people trying to intervene.In one long one, many people try to attack the person with the knife, but have no access to an adequate weapon, even a long stick.it goes on for a long time.

Incredible Stupidity from the person legislating a ban on standard capacity magazines.The truth about the anti-personal defense agenda too."You'll be dead anyway."And she thinks the police arrive in minutes!!!They always get here in time for those funny outlines.