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so yeah, there is drama and there is romance. but the drama pertains to friendship, family, or self. most heroines are ugly (eyecancer alert). only kurugaya's route actually satisfied me, simply because the drama is related to romance.

as for Rin and Refrain, it lost the romance, but they are both good routes. i was excited with each and every thing that gets discovered. then when it reached the climax, it suddenly went downhill.

spoiler for climax. do not click unless you're finished with the game

Spoiler:

that scene on the baseball field, masato,kengo,kyouske saying goodbyes. then it went downhill, although it's only a few more lines before the true end, they still ruined the essence of that epic moment on the baseball field. the part where rin was remembering her friends is just terrible. i didnt really feel that one.

so yeah, there is drama and there is romance. but the drama pertains to friendship, family, or self. most heroines are ugly (eyecancer alert). only kurugaya's route actually satisfied me, simply because the drama is related to romance.

as for Rin and Refrain, it lost the romance, but they are both good routes. i was excited with each and every thing that gets discovered. then when it reached the climax, it suddenly went downhill.

spoiler for climax. do not click unless you're finished with the game

Spoiler:

that scene on the baseball field, masato,kengo,kyouske saying goodbyes. then it went downhill, although it's only a few more lines before the true end, they still ruined the essence of that epic moment on the baseball field. the part where rin was remembering her friends is just terrible. i didnt really feel that one.

Spoiler for LB End Spoilers:

Well the reason she was reminicing about her friends was because LB was about Rin growing up as well, and how her friends helped with that. However, I agree that the most emotional part was the revelation and friends leaving. But like with Clannad, KEY went with a more positive ending, which is fine as well. Didn't degrade my final opinion of it.

Yes she does. like any other capturable heroine - albeit only after clearing Refrain. Now, the requirement for even seeing her in common route is for the player's benefit, as one goes into Saya's, Kanata's and Sasa-chan's route with full knowledge of Refrain. But in the "timeline" so to speak, Saya and Kanata are before Refrain, while Sasa-chan's after. (Though apparent canonicity's as to the latter is up for interpretation - this would put Sasa-chan as the girl who ended up with Riki in the end.)

I honestly dunno what I did wrong. Was playing LB again for see the Muscle Sensation route and somehow it didn't work. Followed the exact walkthrough posted by TLWiki.

What happened was that Kud failed a test so she had to take remedy classes. After that the game went to the normal (or bad end).

What happened?

Do you have the EX or ME versions? The english patch prevents Muscle Revolution from working. If you want to see it, I suggest you to youtube it.

On the topic of the EX/ME versions, here are the stats for the translation that was updated on the 4th of this month on the TLwiki discussion page.
EX: 18% (6521/35393)
ME: 22% (6521/29763)
Sasami: 67% (4472/6691)
Futaki: 24% (1925/8183)

I wonder if they're going to make a patch for the PE version that will be released on the 30th of next month. It also makes me wonder if the next patch will include 1 character route, EX character routes, or EX character routes with all the new context translated.

I just realized that since I played blindly last time, I might have missed a lot of endings. I didn't even know anego has a route after clearing Refrain! I guess I should start this thing again, and finish the EX routes while I'm at it.

I just realized that since I played blindly last time, I might have missed a lot of endings. I didn't even know anego has a route after clearing Refrain! I guess I should start this thing again, and finish the EX routes while I'm at it.

I suggest you to use this walkthrough to get all the good/bad ends. In case you didn't know about a slightly different ending, after you finish Refrain, I recommend you to replay it (use the skip button) and choose Yes on a particular scene (you will understand what I'm talking about as you may be surprised at Riki's answer at that scene on the first runthrough of Refrain). If you don't understand the scene I'm talking about,

Spoiler for if you finished reading it (explicit scene here):

choose Yes on the hospital scene when Rin asks if Riki's proposing to her

I just realized that since I played blindly last time, I might have missed a lot of endings. I didn't even know anego has a route after clearing Refrain! I guess I should start this thing again, and finish the EX routes while I'm at it.

You fool!!!!! I could you not know about Anego's wonderful True Ending?