hi I'm looking for a heli
I'm a beginner but fast learner
i can not make up my mined between 4#3b,CB100,4#6 or 4g6
i would like to keep it around $179--$200
i will be doing indoor flying just small moves 13' tall ceiling in the front room

but i like the fast moving heli for out doors
so what one would be the best of both worlds

Take that cash and get a phoenix simulator! Best investment ever! Practice all winter long

It's tough to get a heli that will fly indoors and be "fast" outdoors....my only suggestion would be to get the Align 250. Probably not a good first heli though. I would skip the idea of getting an indoor heli and save up your money, buy a larger heli for outdoors.

In my own opinion all of those heli's you got in mind are not for beginners, if you're new the most you'll be able to do with these heli's is hover it unless you have a very large room which you probably still won't be able to do anything else. Get yourself a Mcx, Cx2 or Cx3 or something along that line with the co-axial design, sure it's not the real thing but at least you'll be able to learn your orientation and have fun flying around, much more stable than what you have listed...

If you want hands on already, get the new Blade SR from horizon hobby.I don't think you can go wrong on that heli.There is a video on this form about that that model. Go to rrTV-Photo on top and select the AMA Expo 2010. Or you can get a simms like everyone said. IMO i would get both!.(simms&heli)

I think a blade msr would take you a long way in learning all orientations. At your price range it would fit the bill.

Got to have my cup of heli in the morning.

Go with the Blade SR when it comes out in February, it will be great for learning orientations indoor and outdoor, once you have mastered the heli with the transmitter it comes with you can by a Dx6 or Dx7 and program it to perform flips and rolls. Then you can upgrade to a bigger heli from there if you want. I have been flying for 2 years now and I have a MCX, MSR, Mini Titan and I might even buy one just for some nice relaxing flight around the house. Skip the MCX for sure, you will outgrow it in a week.