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Warning after children seen putting bottles on train tracks

POLICE have sent out a warning to stay off railway tracks after children were seen putting stones and bottles in the path of oncoming trains.

The warning comes after after three separate incidents where concrete slabs, bricks, metal and wood have been placed on the track in Abergavenny over the past fortnight.

During the most recent incident last Wednesday, a passenger train struck a number of items which had been left on the rails.

On Tuesday, 1 July, a train driver reported seeing children hiding at the side of the railway before placing objects – including stones and bottles - on the tracks near Coed Glas Lane.

Then, on Wednesday, 9 July, officers responded to reports of debris being scattered next to the line just outside Abergavenny railway station. The third incident occurred later that evening at the same place, when a train struck a number of objects including large concrete slabs, bricks, metal and wood.

As a result of that incident, trains in the area had to be put on stop as officers cleared the debris from the tracks.

Inspector Mike Jones, of British Transport Police, said: “These were reckless and extremely stupid acts of vandalism which could so easily have resulted in tragedy.

“Those responsible not only put the lives of rail passengers and staff at risk, but also caused unnecessary delays and disruption to people’s journeys.

“I would urge those who think that throwing objects onto railway lines is fun, or a good way to dispose of their household items, to think about the consequences of their actions, which could result in serious injury or someone being killed.

“We will be stepping up patrols in the area to try and catch those responsible and we have been conducting local enquiries into the incidents.

“I would like to appeal to anyone who may know who is responsible, or saw anything suspicious in the area, to get in touch.”

Anyone with information about this incident should contact British Transport Police on Freefone 0800 40 50 40 or text 61016 quoting reference WSUB/B8 of 17/07/2014. Alternatively, information can be passed to the independent charity Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.

Comments

pinkgirl23
10:47am Fri 18 Jul 14

If one of these little "darlings" got hit by a train the argus would soon be filled with friends and family members singing their praises and saying how wonderful and lovely they were. Funny how these friends and family are nowhere to be seen when the little sods are doing this stuff to start with

If one of these little "darlings" got hit by a train the argus would soon be filled with friends and family members singing their praises and saying how wonderful and lovely they were. Funny how these friends and family are nowhere to be seen when the little sods are doing this stuff to start withpinkgirl23

If one of these little "darlings" got hit by a train the argus would soon be filled with friends and family members singing their praises and saying how wonderful and lovely they were. Funny how these friends and family are nowhere to be seen when the little sods are doing this stuff to start with

Score: 52

crazyaunty
12:35pm Fri 18 Jul 14

I totally agree with comment posted by pinkgirl23, and would also like to add that my step-son is a train driver and daily faces challenges such as this idiotic behaviour in this story. So far he's been lucky and unscathed although witnessed some horrible and tragic deaths which could have been avoided if this kind of behaviour was not happening in the first place.
If I saw/caught anyone doing this they would have the fright of their lives by the time I finished with them and would never, ever, even think about it again.
Parents have an obligation to know where their children are and what they're doing at all times, if they can't do that - then DON'T have them in the first place.
Lastly the headlines say they were SEEN, so I hope they're tracked down and punished severely.

I totally agree with comment posted by pinkgirl23, and would also like to add that my step-son is a train driver and daily faces challenges such as this idiotic behaviour in this story. So far he's been lucky and unscathed although witnessed some horrible and tragic deaths which could have been avoided if this kind of behaviour was not happening in the first place.
If I saw/caught anyone doing this they would have the fright of their lives by the time I finished with them and would never, ever, even think about it again.
Parents have an obligation to know where their children are and what they're doing at all times, if they can't do that - then DON'T have them in the first place.
Lastly the headlines say they were SEEN, so I hope they're tracked down and punished severely.crazyaunty

I totally agree with comment posted by pinkgirl23, and would also like to add that my step-son is a train driver and daily faces challenges such as this idiotic behaviour in this story. So far he's been lucky and unscathed although witnessed some horrible and tragic deaths which could have been avoided if this kind of behaviour was not happening in the first place.
If I saw/caught anyone doing this they would have the fright of their lives by the time I finished with them and would never, ever, even think about it again.
Parents have an obligation to know where their children are and what they're doing at all times, if they can't do that - then DON'T have them in the first place.
Lastly the headlines say they were SEEN, so I hope they're tracked down and punished severely.

Score: 27

gingertom
1:14pm Fri 18 Jul 14

community remedy survey by 31st July:

http://survey.gwent.
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Give them automatic community service and then go and look at the parents give them some aswell

community remedy survey by 31st July:
http://survey.gwent.
pcc.police.uk/index.
php?sid=62493&lang=e
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Give them automatic community service and then go and look at the parents give them some aswellgingertom

community remedy survey by 31st July:

http://survey.gwent.
pcc.police.uk/index.
php?sid=62493&lang=e
n

Give them automatic community service and then go and look at the parents give them some aswell

Score: 14

displayed
8:34am Sat 19 Jul 14

"let them make mistakes in life and LEARN by them"

At what cost to society and human life!

"let them make mistakes in life and LEARN by them"
At what cost to society and human life!displayed

"let them make mistakes in life and LEARN by them"

At what cost to society and human life!

Score: 2

MikeO4O8
3:00pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Depending on the child's age, when they get caught they should be taken to their parents, and parents to be told to tell their kids just how dangerous it is doing this. If they are caught again then they should be made to see some horrific real life crashes that has been caused by doing what they are doing, or a practical reconstruction of what could happen. If they get caught again then they should be made to wear a tag and be prohibited to be near train tracks (tag to monitor them) and when going on a train they need to get permission before doing so. If they still carry on, then perhaps a more strict approach should be taken, for example (with parents permission) have a fake sentence for them and be charged with attempted murder and sent to a fake prison filled with actors to put the fear of God in them and have them begging to be released, this approach will only work for 1st time offenders though.

These actions might seem harsh but if the parents can't get their kids to stop (but they want to and have tried) then try WORKING WITH THE PARENTS, I am sure if the parents are wanting to their kids to behave and have tried everything, then they won't have a problem trying another approach, I know I would.

Depending on the child's age, when they get caught they should be taken to their parents, and parents to be told to tell their kids just how dangerous it is doing this. If they are caught again then they should be made to see some horrific real life crashes that has been caused by doing what they are doing, or a practical reconstruction of what could happen. If they get caught again then they should be made to wear a tag and be prohibited to be near train tracks (tag to monitor them) and when going on a train they need to get permission before doing so. If they still carry on, then perhaps a more strict approach should be taken, for example (with parents permission) have a fake sentence for them and be charged with attempted murder and sent to a fake prison filled with actors to put the fear of God in them and have them begging to be released, this approach will only work for 1st time offenders though.
These actions might seem harsh but if the parents can't get their kids to stop (but they want to and have tried) then try WORKING WITH THE PARENTS, I am sure if the parents are wanting to their kids to behave and have tried everything, then they won't have a problem trying another approach, I know I would.MikeO4O8

Depending on the child's age, when they get caught they should be taken to their parents, and parents to be told to tell their kids just how dangerous it is doing this. If they are caught again then they should be made to see some horrific real life crashes that has been caused by doing what they are doing, or a practical reconstruction of what could happen. If they get caught again then they should be made to wear a tag and be prohibited to be near train tracks (tag to monitor them) and when going on a train they need to get permission before doing so. If they still carry on, then perhaps a more strict approach should be taken, for example (with parents permission) have a fake sentence for them and be charged with attempted murder and sent to a fake prison filled with actors to put the fear of God in them and have them begging to be released, this approach will only work for 1st time offenders though.

These actions might seem harsh but if the parents can't get their kids to stop (but they want to and have tried) then try WORKING WITH THE PARENTS, I am sure if the parents are wanting to their kids to behave and have tried everything, then they won't have a problem trying another approach, I know I would.

Score: 3

displayed
6:11pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Young children just like to see trains going whoosh as they speed by smashing anything that's puts on the rails, they have no real awareness of the carnage and damage this can cause!

The parents are responsible for where there are and what they do, they just don't care, until its too late...............

Young children just like to see trains going whoosh as they speed by smashing anything that's puts on the rails, they have no real awareness of the carnage and damage this can cause!
The parents are responsible for where there are and what they do, they just don't care, until its too late...............displayed

Young children just like to see trains going whoosh as they speed by smashing anything that's puts on the rails, they have no real awareness of the carnage and damage this can cause!

The parents are responsible for where there are and what they do, they just don't care, until its too late...............

Score: 7

MikeO4O8
2:43pm Fri 18 Jul 14

pinkgirl23 wrote…

If one of these little "darlings" got hit by a train the argus would soon be filled with friends and family members singing their praises and saying how wonderful and lovely they were. Funny how these friends and family are nowhere to be seen when the little sods are doing this stuff to start with

How do you know that their parents know that is what their child is doing? I am sure the kids are gone by time the police get there to report them to their parents.

[quote][p][bold]pinkgirl23[/bold] wrote:
If one of these little "darlings" got hit by a train the argus would soon be filled with friends and family members singing their praises and saying how wonderful and lovely they were. Funny how these friends and family are nowhere to be seen when the little sods are doing this stuff to start with[/p][/quote]How do you know that their parents know that is what their child is doing? I am sure the kids are gone by time the police get there to report them to their parents.MikeO4O8

pinkgirl23 wrote…

If one of these little "darlings" got hit by a train the argus would soon be filled with friends and family members singing their praises and saying how wonderful and lovely they were. Funny how these friends and family are nowhere to be seen when the little sods are doing this stuff to start with

How do you know that their parents know that is what their child is doing? I am sure the kids are gone by time the police get there to report them to their parents.

Score: -20

anigel
5:55pm Fri 18 Jul 14

MikeO4O8 wrote…

Depending on the child's age, when they get caught they should be taken to their parents, and parents to be told to tell their kids just how dangerous it is doing this. If they are caught again then they should be made to see some horrific real life crashes that has been caused by doing what they are doing, or a practical reconstruction of what could happen. If they get caught again then they should be made to wear a tag and be prohibited to be near train tracks (tag to monitor them) and when going on a train they need to get permission before doing so. If they still carry on, then perhaps a more strict approach should be taken, for example (with parents permission) have a fake sentence for them and be charged with attempted murder and sent to a fake prison filled with actors to put the fear of God in them and have them begging to be released, this approach will only work for 1st time offenders though.

These actions might seem harsh but if the parents can't get their kids to stop (but they want to and have tried) then try WORKING WITH THE PARENTS, I am sure if the parents are wanting to their kids to behave and have tried everything, then they won't have a problem trying another approach, I know I would.

Why should we give them multiple chances to kill innocent people before taking any real action against them.

Would you be happy if the second time or third time it happened one of your family was seriously injured or killed by these idiots?

No matter how old you are, you know that it is wrong to be doing this type of thing and if you don't then you certainly should not be allowed out of doors without constant. adult supervision.

[quote][p][bold]MikeO4O8[/bold] wrote:
Depending on the child's age, when they get caught they should be taken to their parents, and parents to be told to tell their kids just how dangerous it is doing this. If they are caught again then they should be made to see some horrific real life crashes that has been caused by doing what they are doing, or a practical reconstruction of what could happen. If they get caught again then they should be made to wear a tag and be prohibited to be near train tracks (tag to monitor them) and when going on a train they need to get permission before doing so. If they still carry on, then perhaps a more strict approach should be taken, for example (with parents permission) have a fake sentence for them and be charged with attempted murder and sent to a fake prison filled with actors to put the fear of God in them and have them begging to be released, this approach will only work for 1st time offenders though.
These actions might seem harsh but if the parents can't get their kids to stop (but they want to and have tried) then try WORKING WITH THE PARENTS, I am sure if the parents are wanting to their kids to behave and have tried everything, then they won't have a problem trying another approach, I know I would.[/p][/quote]Why should we give them multiple chances to kill innocent people before taking any real action against them.
Would you be happy if the second time or third time it happened one of your family was seriously injured or killed by these idiots?
No matter how old you are, you know that it is wrong to be doing this type of thing and if you don't then you certainly should not be allowed out of doors without constant. adult supervision.anigel

MikeO4O8 wrote…

Depending on the child's age, when they get caught they should be taken to their parents, and parents to be told to tell their kids just how dangerous it is doing this. If they are caught again then they should be made to see some horrific real life crashes that has been caused by doing what they are doing, or a practical reconstruction of what could happen. If they get caught again then they should be made to wear a tag and be prohibited to be near train tracks (tag to monitor them) and when going on a train they need to get permission before doing so. If they still carry on, then perhaps a more strict approach should be taken, for example (with parents permission) have a fake sentence for them and be charged with attempted murder and sent to a fake prison filled with actors to put the fear of God in them and have them begging to be released, this approach will only work for 1st time offenders though.

These actions might seem harsh but if the parents can't get their kids to stop (but they want to and have tried) then try WORKING WITH THE PARENTS, I am sure if the parents are wanting to their kids to behave and have tried everything, then they won't have a problem trying another approach, I know I would.

Why should we give them multiple chances to kill innocent people before taking any real action against them.

Would you be happy if the second time or third time it happened one of your family was seriously injured or killed by these idiots?

No matter how old you are, you know that it is wrong to be doing this type of thing and if you don't then you certainly should not be allowed out of doors without constant. adult supervision.

Score: 8

sperduti
8:50pm Fri 18 Jul 14

now the school holidays are here for the next 6 weeks its up to parents to know exactly where your child is going who with etc!! it would help if just before the term finished if schools would take just 5 minutes in assembley time to warn children about the dangers of playing around places like this and water and to keep safe !

now the school holidays are here for the next 6 weeks its up to parents to know exactly where your child is going who with etc!! it would help if just before the term finished if schools would take just 5 minutes in assembley time to warn children about the dangers of playing around places like this and water and to keep safe !sperduti

now the school holidays are here for the next 6 weeks its up to parents to know exactly where your child is going who with etc!! it would help if just before the term finished if schools would take just 5 minutes in assembley time to warn children about the dangers of playing around places like this and water and to keep safe !

Score: 7

mrleebob
9:15pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Kill them.

Kill them.mrleebob

Kill them.

Score: -1

warneboy
11:28pm Fri 18 Jul 14

MikeO4O8 wrote…

pinkgirl23 wrote…

If one of these little "darlings" got hit by a train the argus would soon be filled with friends and family members singing their praises and saying how wonderful and lovely they were. Funny how these friends and family are nowhere to be seen when the little sods are doing this stuff to start with

How do you know that their parents know that is what their child is doing? I am sure the kids are gone by time the police get there to report them to their parents.

A parents job is knowing where and what there children are doing

[quote][p][bold]MikeO4O8[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]pinkgirl23[/bold] wrote:
If one of these little "darlings" got hit by a train the argus would soon be filled with friends and family members singing their praises and saying how wonderful and lovely they were. Funny how these friends and family are nowhere to be seen when the little sods are doing this stuff to start with[/p][/quote]How do you know that their parents know that is what their child is doing? I am sure the kids are gone by time the police get there to report them to their parents.[/p][/quote]A parents job is knowing where and what there children are doingwarneboy

MikeO4O8 wrote…

pinkgirl23 wrote…

If one of these little "darlings" got hit by a train the argus would soon be filled with friends and family members singing their praises and saying how wonderful and lovely they were. Funny how these friends and family are nowhere to be seen when the little sods are doing this stuff to start with

How do you know that their parents know that is what their child is doing? I am sure the kids are gone by time the police get there to report them to their parents.

A parents job is knowing where and what there children are doing

Score: 5

MikeO4O8
11:45pm Fri 18 Jul 14

anigel wrote…

MikeO4O8 wrote…

Depending on the child's age, when they get caught they should be taken to their parents, and parents to be told to tell their kids just how dangerous it is doing this. If they are caught again then they should be made to see some horrific real life crashes that has been caused by doing what they are doing, or a practical reconstruction of what could happen. If they get caught again then they should be made to wear a tag and be prohibited to be near train tracks (tag to monitor them) and when going on a train they need to get permission before doing so. If they still carry on, then perhaps a more strict approach should be taken, for example (with parents permission) have a fake sentence for them and be charged with attempted murder and sent to a fake prison filled with actors to put the fear of God in them and have them begging to be released, this approach will only work for 1st time offenders though.

These actions might seem harsh but if the parents can't get their kids to stop (but they want to and have tried) then try WORKING WITH THE PARENTS, I am sure if the parents are wanting to their kids to behave and have tried everything, then they won't have a problem trying another approach, I know I would.

Why should we give them multiple chances to kill innocent people before taking any real action against them.

Would you be happy if the second time or third time it happened one of your family was seriously injured or killed by these idiots?

No matter how old you are, you know that it is wrong to be doing this type of thing and if you don't then you certainly should not be allowed out of doors without constant. adult supervision.

because they are just kids and like someone else said '' they have no real awareness of the carnage and damage this can cause!''

kids are always wanting to do things like this just to see what would happen, i used to be the same as a kid, i didn't play on railway tracks, but i did a lot more stuff that could have killed people. a parent can tell their child A LOT of things that are good and bad to do, they may NOT touch on every subject like don't put slabs on a railway track as it MAY NOT be something they think their kid would do in the 1st place or it may seem like common sense to them, so the thought never crossed their minds until someone like a police officer brings the child home and tell them.

i bet if you tried not even you could put down EVERYTHING that you should tell your kids not to do without missing a lot out.

[quote][p][bold]anigel[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]MikeO4O8[/bold] wrote:
Depending on the child's age, when they get caught they should be taken to their parents, and parents to be told to tell their kids just how dangerous it is doing this. If they are caught again then they should be made to see some horrific real life crashes that has been caused by doing what they are doing, or a practical reconstruction of what could happen. If they get caught again then they should be made to wear a tag and be prohibited to be near train tracks (tag to monitor them) and when going on a train they need to get permission before doing so. If they still carry on, then perhaps a more strict approach should be taken, for example (with parents permission) have a fake sentence for them and be charged with attempted murder and sent to a fake prison filled with actors to put the fear of God in them and have them begging to be released, this approach will only work for 1st time offenders though.
These actions might seem harsh but if the parents can't get their kids to stop (but they want to and have tried) then try WORKING WITH THE PARENTS, I am sure if the parents are wanting to their kids to behave and have tried everything, then they won't have a problem trying another approach, I know I would.[/p][/quote]Why should we give them multiple chances to kill innocent people before taking any real action against them.
Would you be happy if the second time or third time it happened one of your family was seriously injured or killed by these idiots?
No matter how old you are, you know that it is wrong to be doing this type of thing and if you don't then you certainly should not be allowed out of doors without constant. adult supervision.[/p][/quote]because they are just kids and like someone else said '' they have no real awareness of the carnage and damage this can cause!''
kids are always wanting to do things like this just to see what would happen, i used to be the same as a kid, i didn't play on railway tracks, but i did a lot more stuff that could have killed people. a parent can tell their child A LOT of things that are good and bad to do, they may NOT touch on every subject like don't put slabs on a railway track as it MAY NOT be something they think their kid would do in the 1st place or it may seem like common sense to them, so the thought never crossed their minds until someone like a police officer brings the child home and tell them.
i bet if you tried not even you could put down EVERYTHING that you should tell your kids not to do without missing a lot out.MikeO4O8

anigel wrote…

MikeO4O8 wrote…

Depending on the child's age, when they get caught they should be taken to their parents, and parents to be told to tell their kids just how dangerous it is doing this. If they are caught again then they should be made to see some horrific real life crashes that has been caused by doing what they are doing, or a practical reconstruction of what could happen. If they get caught again then they should be made to wear a tag and be prohibited to be near train tracks (tag to monitor them) and when going on a train they need to get permission before doing so. If they still carry on, then perhaps a more strict approach should be taken, for example (with parents permission) have a fake sentence for them and be charged with attempted murder and sent to a fake prison filled with actors to put the fear of God in them and have them begging to be released, this approach will only work for 1st time offenders though.

These actions might seem harsh but if the parents can't get their kids to stop (but they want to and have tried) then try WORKING WITH THE PARENTS, I am sure if the parents are wanting to their kids to behave and have tried everything, then they won't have a problem trying another approach, I know I would.

Why should we give them multiple chances to kill innocent people before taking any real action against them.

Would you be happy if the second time or third time it happened one of your family was seriously injured or killed by these idiots?

No matter how old you are, you know that it is wrong to be doing this type of thing and if you don't then you certainly should not be allowed out of doors without constant. adult supervision.

because they are just kids and like someone else said '' they have no real awareness of the carnage and damage this can cause!''

kids are always wanting to do things like this just to see what would happen, i used to be the same as a kid, i didn't play on railway tracks, but i did a lot more stuff that could have killed people. a parent can tell their child A LOT of things that are good and bad to do, they may NOT touch on every subject like don't put slabs on a railway track as it MAY NOT be something they think their kid would do in the 1st place or it may seem like common sense to them, so the thought never crossed their minds until someone like a police officer brings the child home and tell them.

i bet if you tried not even you could put down EVERYTHING that you should tell your kids not to do without missing a lot out.

Score: -2

MikeO4O8
12:00am Sat 19 Jul 14

warneboy wrote…

MikeO4O8 wrote…

pinkgirl23 wrote…

If one of these little "darlings" got hit by a train the argus would soon be filled with friends and family members singing their praises and saying how wonderful and lovely they were. Funny how these friends and family are nowhere to be seen when the little sods are doing this stuff to start with

How do you know that their parents know that is what their child is doing? I am sure the kids are gone by time the police get there to report them to their parents.

A parents job is knowing where and what there children are doing

so are you saying we should NEVER trust our kids??

for example:
you ask you child to go to the local shops (5 mins walk away or something) you are trusting that they do this as without wondering off as they have done it before (assuming that they have), they then come back 15-20 mins later with what you asked them to get (allowed 10 mins for shopping and looking around for something for them self). ARE WE supposed to follow them at ALL TIMES due to not trusting them or are we supposed to interrogate them each and every time they get back and not believe a word they say?
In my opinion a child who has a parent like that or even a parent that cant trust them has not got a very nice childhood and will most likely grow up resenting their parent(s), which could then lead to them being criminals and drug taking/dealing.

i am not saying that a parent should be the child best friend and let them get away with everything and always believe that they tell you the truth. but you have to give a child some trust and let them do things on their own.
let them make mistakes in life and LEARN by them. as a parent (especially a 1st time parent like myself) we are bound to make MANY mistakes, but never trusting my child wont be 1 of my mistakes.

P.S
i think i may have gotten a little of topic, just when i start typing i just want to carry on lol.

[quote][p][bold]warneboy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]MikeO4O8[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]pinkgirl23[/bold] wrote:
If one of these little "darlings" got hit by a train the argus would soon be filled with friends and family members singing their praises and saying how wonderful and lovely they were. Funny how these friends and family are nowhere to be seen when the little sods are doing this stuff to start with[/p][/quote]How do you know that their parents know that is what their child is doing? I am sure the kids are gone by time the police get there to report them to their parents.[/p][/quote]A parents job is knowing where and what there children are doing[/p][/quote]so are you saying we should NEVER trust our kids??
for example:
you ask you child to go to the local shops (5 mins walk away or something) you are trusting that they do this as without wondering off as they have done it before (assuming that they have), they then come back 15-20 mins later with what you asked them to get (allowed 10 mins for shopping and looking around for something for them self). ARE WE supposed to follow them at ALL TIMES due to not trusting them or are we supposed to interrogate them each and every time they get back and not believe a word they say?
In my opinion a child who has a parent like that or even a parent that cant trust them has not got a very nice childhood and will most likely grow up resenting their parent(s), which could then lead to them being criminals and drug taking/dealing.
i am not saying that a parent should be the child best friend and let them get away with everything and always believe that they tell you the truth. but you have to give a child some trust and let them do things on their own.
let them make mistakes in life and LEARN by them. as a parent (especially a 1st time parent like myself) we are bound to make MANY mistakes, but never trusting my child wont be 1 of my mistakes.
P.S
i think i may have gotten a little of topic, just when i start typing i just want to carry on lol.MikeO4O8

warneboy wrote…

MikeO4O8 wrote…

pinkgirl23 wrote…

If one of these little "darlings" got hit by a train the argus would soon be filled with friends and family members singing their praises and saying how wonderful and lovely they were. Funny how these friends and family are nowhere to be seen when the little sods are doing this stuff to start with

How do you know that their parents know that is what their child is doing? I am sure the kids are gone by time the police get there to report them to their parents.

A parents job is knowing where and what there children are doing

so are you saying we should NEVER trust our kids??

for example:
you ask you child to go to the local shops (5 mins walk away or something) you are trusting that they do this as without wondering off as they have done it before (assuming that they have), they then come back 15-20 mins later with what you asked them to get (allowed 10 mins for shopping and looking around for something for them self). ARE WE supposed to follow them at ALL TIMES due to not trusting them or are we supposed to interrogate them each and every time they get back and not believe a word they say?
In my opinion a child who has a parent like that or even a parent that cant trust them has not got a very nice childhood and will most likely grow up resenting their parent(s), which could then lead to them being criminals and drug taking/dealing.

i am not saying that a parent should be the child best friend and let them get away with everything and always believe that they tell you the truth. but you have to give a child some trust and let them do things on their own.
let them make mistakes in life and LEARN by them. as a parent (especially a 1st time parent like myself) we are bound to make MANY mistakes, but never trusting my child wont be 1 of my mistakes.

P.S
i think i may have gotten a little of topic, just when i start typing i just want to carry on lol.

Score: 0

anigel
5:45am Sat 19 Jul 14

MikeO4O8 wrote…

anigel wrote…

MikeO4O8 wrote…

Depending on the child's age, when they get caught they should be taken to their parents, and parents to be told to tell their kids just how dangerous it is doing this. If they are caught again then they should be made to see some horrific real life crashes that has been caused by doing what they are doing, or a practical reconstruction of what could happen. If they get caught again then they should be made to wear a tag and be prohibited to be near train tracks (tag to monitor them) and when going on a train they need to get permission before doing so. If they still carry on, then perhaps a more strict approach should be taken, for example (with parents permission) have a fake sentence for them and be charged with attempted murder and sent to a fake prison filled with actors to put the fear of God in them and have them begging to be released, this approach will only work for 1st time offenders though.

These actions might seem harsh but if the parents can't get their kids to stop (but they want to and have tried) then try WORKING WITH THE PARENTS, I am sure if the parents are wanting to their kids to behave and have tried everything, then they won't have a problem trying another approach, I know I would.

Why should we give them multiple chances to kill innocent people before taking any real action against them.

Would you be happy if the second time or third time it happened one of your family was seriously injured or killed by these idiots?

No matter how old you are, you know that it is wrong to be doing this type of thing and if you don't then you certainly should not be allowed out of doors without constant. adult supervision.

because they are just kids and like someone else said '' they have no real awareness of the carnage and damage this can cause!''

kids are always wanting to do things like this just to see what would happen, i used to be the same as a kid, i didn't play on railway tracks, but i did a lot more stuff that could have killed people. a parent can tell their child A LOT of things that are good and bad to do, they may NOT touch on every subject like don't put slabs on a railway track as it MAY NOT be something they think their kid would do in the 1st place or it may seem like common sense to them, so the thought never crossed their minds until someone like a police officer brings the child home and tell them.

i bet if you tried not even you could put down EVERYTHING that you should tell your kids not to do without missing a lot out.

Ah ok so its fine if they kill your family then.

[quote][p][bold]MikeO4O8[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]anigel[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]MikeO4O8[/bold] wrote:
Depending on the child's age, when they get caught they should be taken to their parents, and parents to be told to tell their kids just how dangerous it is doing this. If they are caught again then they should be made to see some horrific real life crashes that has been caused by doing what they are doing, or a practical reconstruction of what could happen. If they get caught again then they should be made to wear a tag and be prohibited to be near train tracks (tag to monitor them) and when going on a train they need to get permission before doing so. If they still carry on, then perhaps a more strict approach should be taken, for example (with parents permission) have a fake sentence for them and be charged with attempted murder and sent to a fake prison filled with actors to put the fear of God in them and have them begging to be released, this approach will only work for 1st time offenders though.
These actions might seem harsh but if the parents can't get their kids to stop (but they want to and have tried) then try WORKING WITH THE PARENTS, I am sure if the parents are wanting to their kids to behave and have tried everything, then they won't have a problem trying another approach, I know I would.[/p][/quote]Why should we give them multiple chances to kill innocent people before taking any real action against them.
Would you be happy if the second time or third time it happened one of your family was seriously injured or killed by these idiots?
No matter how old you are, you know that it is wrong to be doing this type of thing and if you don't then you certainly should not be allowed out of doors without constant. adult supervision.[/p][/quote]because they are just kids and like someone else said '' they have no real awareness of the carnage and damage this can cause!''
kids are always wanting to do things like this just to see what would happen, i used to be the same as a kid, i didn't play on railway tracks, but i did a lot more stuff that could have killed people. a parent can tell their child A LOT of things that are good and bad to do, they may NOT touch on every subject like don't put slabs on a railway track as it MAY NOT be something they think their kid would do in the 1st place or it may seem like common sense to them, so the thought never crossed their minds until someone like a police officer brings the child home and tell them.
i bet if you tried not even you could put down EVERYTHING that you should tell your kids not to do without missing a lot out.[/p][/quote]Ah ok so its fine if they kill your family then.anigel

MikeO4O8 wrote…

anigel wrote…

MikeO4O8 wrote…

Depending on the child's age, when they get caught they should be taken to their parents, and parents to be told to tell their kids just how dangerous it is doing this. If they are caught again then they should be made to see some horrific real life crashes that has been caused by doing what they are doing, or a practical reconstruction of what could happen. If they get caught again then they should be made to wear a tag and be prohibited to be near train tracks (tag to monitor them) and when going on a train they need to get permission before doing so. If they still carry on, then perhaps a more strict approach should be taken, for example (with parents permission) have a fake sentence for them and be charged with attempted murder and sent to a fake prison filled with actors to put the fear of God in them and have them begging to be released, this approach will only work for 1st time offenders though.

These actions might seem harsh but if the parents can't get their kids to stop (but they want to and have tried) then try WORKING WITH THE PARENTS, I am sure if the parents are wanting to their kids to behave and have tried everything, then they won't have a problem trying another approach, I know I would.

Why should we give them multiple chances to kill innocent people before taking any real action against them.

Would you be happy if the second time or third time it happened one of your family was seriously injured or killed by these idiots?

No matter how old you are, you know that it is wrong to be doing this type of thing and if you don't then you certainly should not be allowed out of doors without constant. adult supervision.

because they are just kids and like someone else said '' they have no real awareness of the carnage and damage this can cause!''

kids are always wanting to do things like this just to see what would happen, i used to be the same as a kid, i didn't play on railway tracks, but i did a lot more stuff that could have killed people. a parent can tell their child A LOT of things that are good and bad to do, they may NOT touch on every subject like don't put slabs on a railway track as it MAY NOT be something they think their kid would do in the 1st place or it may seem like common sense to them, so the thought never crossed their minds until someone like a police officer brings the child home and tell them.

i bet if you tried not even you could put down EVERYTHING that you should tell your kids not to do without missing a lot out.

Ah ok so its fine if they kill your family then.

Score: 1

MikeO4O8
2:27pm Sat 19 Jul 14

anigel wrote…

MikeO4O8 wrote…

anigel wrote…

MikeO4O8 wrote…

Depending on the child's age, when they get caught they should be taken to their parents, and parents to be told to tell their kids just how dangerous it is doing this. If they are caught again then they should be made to see some horrific real life crashes that has been caused by doing what they are doing, or a practical reconstruction of what could happen. If they get caught again then they should be made to wear a tag and be prohibited to be near train tracks (tag to monitor them) and when going on a train they need to get permission before doing so. If they still carry on, then perhaps a more strict approach should be taken, for example (with parents permission) have a fake sentence for them and be charged with attempted murder and sent to a fake prison filled with actors to put the fear of God in them and have them begging to be released, this approach will only work for 1st time offenders though.

These actions might seem harsh but if the parents can't get their kids to stop (but they want to and have tried) then try WORKING WITH THE PARENTS, I am sure if the parents are wanting to their kids to behave and have tried everything, then they won't have a problem trying another approach, I know I would.

Why should we give them multiple chances to kill innocent people before taking any real action against them.

Would you be happy if the second time or third time it happened one of your family was seriously injured or killed by these idiots?

No matter how old you are, you know that it is wrong to be doing this type of thing and if you don't then you certainly should not be allowed out of doors without constant. adult supervision.

because they are just kids and like someone else said '' they have no real awareness of the carnage and damage this can cause!''

kids are always wanting to do things like this just to see what would happen, i used to be the same as a kid, i didn't play on railway tracks, but i did a lot more stuff that could have killed people. a parent can tell their child A LOT of things that are good and bad to do, they may NOT touch on every subject like don't put slabs on a railway track as it MAY NOT be something they think their kid would do in the 1st place or it may seem like common sense to them, so the thought never crossed their minds until someone like a police officer brings the child home and tell them.

i bet if you tried not even you could put down EVERYTHING that you should tell your kids not to do without missing a lot out.

Ah ok so its fine if they kill your family then.

I don't believe I said that, but if they do it for the 1st and the results in death l, then yeah it would be upsetting and if the child lives then that is just a lesson he/she will learn not to do again and then we let our justice system do something about it.

If it does not result in death and the child is caught, then at least no harm done and the parents can talk to their child. You have to remember that they are JUST KIDS and they do need teaching right from wrong and as I said above a parent can tell them all sorts but they are bound to miss allot of things until the child does it.

[quote][p][bold]anigel[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]MikeO4O8[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]anigel[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]MikeO4O8[/bold] wrote:
Depending on the child's age, when they get caught they should be taken to their parents, and parents to be told to tell their kids just how dangerous it is doing this. If they are caught again then they should be made to see some horrific real life crashes that has been caused by doing what they are doing, or a practical reconstruction of what could happen. If they get caught again then they should be made to wear a tag and be prohibited to be near train tracks (tag to monitor them) and when going on a train they need to get permission before doing so. If they still carry on, then perhaps a more strict approach should be taken, for example (with parents permission) have a fake sentence for them and be charged with attempted murder and sent to a fake prison filled with actors to put the fear of God in them and have them begging to be released, this approach will only work for 1st time offenders though.
These actions might seem harsh but if the parents can't get their kids to stop (but they want to and have tried) then try WORKING WITH THE PARENTS, I am sure if the parents are wanting to their kids to behave and have tried everything, then they won't have a problem trying another approach, I know I would.[/p][/quote]Why should we give them multiple chances to kill innocent people before taking any real action against them.
Would you be happy if the second time or third time it happened one of your family was seriously injured or killed by these idiots?
No matter how old you are, you know that it is wrong to be doing this type of thing and if you don't then you certainly should not be allowed out of doors without constant. adult supervision.[/p][/quote]because they are just kids and like someone else said '' they have no real awareness of the carnage and damage this can cause!''
kids are always wanting to do things like this just to see what would happen, i used to be the same as a kid, i didn't play on railway tracks, but i did a lot more stuff that could have killed people. a parent can tell their child A LOT of things that are good and bad to do, they may NOT touch on every subject like don't put slabs on a railway track as it MAY NOT be something they think their kid would do in the 1st place or it may seem like common sense to them, so the thought never crossed their minds until someone like a police officer brings the child home and tell them.
i bet if you tried not even you could put down EVERYTHING that you should tell your kids not to do without missing a lot out.[/p][/quote]Ah ok so its fine if they kill your family then.[/p][/quote]I don't believe I said that, but if they do it for the 1st and the results in death l, then yeah it would be upsetting and if the child lives then that is just a lesson he/she will learn not to do again and then we let our justice system do something about it.
If it does not result in death and the child is caught, then at least no harm done and the parents can talk to their child. You have to remember that they are JUST KIDS and they do need teaching right from wrong and as I said above a parent can tell them all sorts but they are bound to miss allot of things until the child does it.MikeO4O8

anigel wrote…

MikeO4O8 wrote…

anigel wrote…

MikeO4O8 wrote…

Depending on the child's age, when they get caught they should be taken to their parents, and parents to be told to tell their kids just how dangerous it is doing this. If they are caught again then they should be made to see some horrific real life crashes that has been caused by doing what they are doing, or a practical reconstruction of what could happen. If they get caught again then they should be made to wear a tag and be prohibited to be near train tracks (tag to monitor them) and when going on a train they need to get permission before doing so. If they still carry on, then perhaps a more strict approach should be taken, for example (with parents permission) have a fake sentence for them and be charged with attempted murder and sent to a fake prison filled with actors to put the fear of God in them and have them begging to be released, this approach will only work for 1st time offenders though.

These actions might seem harsh but if the parents can't get their kids to stop (but they want to and have tried) then try WORKING WITH THE PARENTS, I am sure if the parents are wanting to their kids to behave and have tried everything, then they won't have a problem trying another approach, I know I would.

Why should we give them multiple chances to kill innocent people before taking any real action against them.

Would you be happy if the second time or third time it happened one of your family was seriously injured or killed by these idiots?

No matter how old you are, you know that it is wrong to be doing this type of thing and if you don't then you certainly should not be allowed out of doors without constant. adult supervision.

because they are just kids and like someone else said '' they have no real awareness of the carnage and damage this can cause!''

kids are always wanting to do things like this just to see what would happen, i used to be the same as a kid, i didn't play on railway tracks, but i did a lot more stuff that could have killed people. a parent can tell their child A LOT of things that are good and bad to do, they may NOT touch on every subject like don't put slabs on a railway track as it MAY NOT be something they think their kid would do in the 1st place or it may seem like common sense to them, so the thought never crossed their minds until someone like a police officer brings the child home and tell them.

i bet if you tried not even you could put down EVERYTHING that you should tell your kids not to do without missing a lot out.

Ah ok so its fine if they kill your family then.

I don't believe I said that, but if they do it for the 1st and the results in death l, then yeah it would be upsetting and if the child lives then that is just a lesson he/she will learn not to do again and then we let our justice system do something about it.

If it does not result in death and the child is caught, then at least no harm done and the parents can talk to their child. You have to remember that they are JUST KIDS and they do need teaching right from wrong and as I said above a parent can tell them all sorts but they are bound to miss allot of things until the child does it.

Score: -4

MikeO4O8
2:31pm Sat 19 Jul 14

displayed wrote…

"let them make mistakes in life and LEARN by them"

At what cost to society and human life!

Sadly yes this could be life lesson, ALL MISTAKES have consequences, but yes death can be a pretty big consequence.

[quote][p][bold]displayed[/bold] wrote:
"let them make mistakes in life and LEARN by them"
At what cost to society and human life![/p][/quote]Sadly yes this could be life lesson, ALL MISTAKES have consequences, but yes death can be a pretty big consequence.MikeO4O8

displayed wrote…

"let them make mistakes in life and LEARN by them"

At what cost to society and human life!

Sadly yes this could be life lesson, ALL MISTAKES have consequences, but yes death can be a pretty big consequence.

Score: 1

displayed
4:36pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Why don't they just close the lane off, there's no reason for them to go thro there except to cause problems for the rail industry, there rolling stock and the passengers!

Why don't they just close the lane off, there's no reason for them to go thro there except to cause problems for the rail industry, there rolling stock and the passengers!
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Why don't they just close the lane off, there's no reason for them to go thro there except to cause problems for the rail industry, there rolling stock and the passengers!

The police should visit the local schools in Abergavenny when term time begins after the summer and warn of the dangers and consequences of their actions.

When a train is eventually derailed and passengers maimed or killed then hunt down those responsible and charge them with murder and then charge the parents with neglect of their children - maybe only then lessons will be learnt !

Leaving concrete slabs on a railway line ?
The police should visit the local schools in Abergavenny when term time begins after the summer and warn of the dangers and consequences of their actions.
When a train is eventually derailed and passengers maimed or killed then hunt down those responsible and charge them with murder and then charge the parents with neglect of their children - maybe only then lessons will be learnt !Independentvoter

Leaving concrete slabs on a railway line ?

The police should visit the local schools in Abergavenny when term time begins after the summer and warn of the dangers and consequences of their actions.

When a train is eventually derailed and passengers maimed or killed then hunt down those responsible and charge them with murder and then charge the parents with neglect of their children - maybe only then lessons will be learnt !

Score: 1

anigel
6:29pm Sun 20 Jul 14

MikeO4O8 wrote…

anigel wrote…

MikeO4O8 wrote…

anigel wrote…

MikeO4O8 wrote…

Depending on the child's age, when they get caught they should be taken to their parents, and parents to be told to tell their kids just how dangerous it is doing this. If they are caught again then they should be made to see some horrific real life crashes that has been caused by doing what they are doing, or a practical reconstruction of what could happen. If they get caught again then they should be made to wear a tag and be prohibited to be near train tracks (tag to monitor them) and when going on a train they need to get permission before doing so. If they still carry on, then perhaps a more strict approach should be taken, for example (with parents permission) have a fake sentence for them and be charged with attempted murder and sent to a fake prison filled with actors to put the fear of God in them and have them begging to be released, this approach will only work for 1st time offenders though.

These actions might seem harsh but if the parents can't get their kids to stop (but they want to and have tried) then try WORKING WITH THE PARENTS, I am sure if the parents are wanting to their kids to behave and have tried everything, then they won't have a problem trying another approach, I know I would.

Why should we give them multiple chances to kill innocent people before taking any real action against them.

Would you be happy if the second time or third time it happened one of your family was seriously injured or killed by these idiots?

No matter how old you are, you know that it is wrong to be doing this type of thing and if you don't then you certainly should not be allowed out of doors without constant. adult supervision.

because they are just kids and like someone else said '' they have no real awareness of the carnage and damage this can cause!''

kids are always wanting to do things like this just to see what would happen, i used to be the same as a kid, i didn't play on railway tracks, but i did a lot more stuff that could have killed people. a parent can tell their child A LOT of things that are good and bad to do, they may NOT touch on every subject like don't put slabs on a railway track as it MAY NOT be something they think their kid would do in the 1st place or it may seem like common sense to them, so the thought never crossed their minds until someone like a police officer brings the child home and tell them.

i bet if you tried not even you could put down EVERYTHING that you should tell your kids not to do without missing a lot out.

Ah ok so its fine if they kill your family then.

I don't believe I said that, but if they do it for the 1st and the results in death l, then yeah it would be upsetting and if the child lives then that is just a lesson he/she will learn not to do again and then we let our justice system do something about it.

If it does not result in death and the child is caught, then at least no harm done and the parents can talk to their child. You have to remember that they are JUST KIDS and they do need teaching right from wrong and as I said above a parent can tell them all sorts but they are bound to miss allot of things until the child does it.

You said it yourself not me.

I said we should take action the first time they care caught you said we should let them get away with it multipel times. I asked if you would be ok with you family being hurt or killed on teh second or third time./ As a direct result of letting them off the first time and you said yes let them off.

So your logic is that it is fine to kill people as long as it doesn't happen 3 times, or by the sounds of it, as long as it doesn't happen to your family.

[quote][p][bold]MikeO4O8[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]anigel[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]MikeO4O8[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]anigel[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]MikeO4O8[/bold] wrote:
Depending on the child's age, when they get caught they should be taken to their parents, and parents to be told to tell their kids just how dangerous it is doing this. If they are caught again then they should be made to see some horrific real life crashes that has been caused by doing what they are doing, or a practical reconstruction of what could happen. If they get caught again then they should be made to wear a tag and be prohibited to be near train tracks (tag to monitor them) and when going on a train they need to get permission before doing so. If they still carry on, then perhaps a more strict approach should be taken, for example (with parents permission) have a fake sentence for them and be charged with attempted murder and sent to a fake prison filled with actors to put the fear of God in them and have them begging to be released, this approach will only work for 1st time offenders though.
These actions might seem harsh but if the parents can't get their kids to stop (but they want to and have tried) then try WORKING WITH THE PARENTS, I am sure if the parents are wanting to their kids to behave and have tried everything, then they won't have a problem trying another approach, I know I would.[/p][/quote]Why should we give them multiple chances to kill innocent people before taking any real action against them.
Would you be happy if the second time or third time it happened one of your family was seriously injured or killed by these idiots?
No matter how old you are, you know that it is wrong to be doing this type of thing and if you don't then you certainly should not be allowed out of doors without constant. adult supervision.[/p][/quote]because they are just kids and like someone else said '' they have no real awareness of the carnage and damage this can cause!''
kids are always wanting to do things like this just to see what would happen, i used to be the same as a kid, i didn't play on railway tracks, but i did a lot more stuff that could have killed people. a parent can tell their child A LOT of things that are good and bad to do, they may NOT touch on every subject like don't put slabs on a railway track as it MAY NOT be something they think their kid would do in the 1st place or it may seem like common sense to them, so the thought never crossed their minds until someone like a police officer brings the child home and tell them.
i bet if you tried not even you could put down EVERYTHING that you should tell your kids not to do without missing a lot out.[/p][/quote]Ah ok so its fine if they kill your family then.[/p][/quote]I don't believe I said that, but if they do it for the 1st and the results in death l, then yeah it would be upsetting and if the child lives then that is just a lesson he/she will learn not to do again and then we let our justice system do something about it.
If it does not result in death and the child is caught, then at least no harm done and the parents can talk to their child. You have to remember that they are JUST KIDS and they do need teaching right from wrong and as I said above a parent can tell them all sorts but they are bound to miss allot of things until the child does it.[/p][/quote]You said it yourself not me.
I said we should take action the first time they care caught you said we should let them get away with it multipel times. I asked if you would be ok with you family being hurt or killed on teh second or third time./ As a direct result of letting them off the first time and you said yes let them off.
So your logic is that it is fine to kill people as long as it doesn't happen 3 times, or by the sounds of it, as long as it doesn't happen to your family.anigel

MikeO4O8 wrote…

anigel wrote…

MikeO4O8 wrote…

anigel wrote…

MikeO4O8 wrote…

Depending on the child's age, when they get caught they should be taken to their parents, and parents to be told to tell their kids just how dangerous it is doing this. If they are caught again then they should be made to see some horrific real life crashes that has been caused by doing what they are doing, or a practical reconstruction of what could happen. If they get caught again then they should be made to wear a tag and be prohibited to be near train tracks (tag to monitor them) and when going on a train they need to get permission before doing so. If they still carry on, then perhaps a more strict approach should be taken, for example (with parents permission) have a fake sentence for them and be charged with attempted murder and sent to a fake prison filled with actors to put the fear of God in them and have them begging to be released, this approach will only work for 1st time offenders though.

These actions might seem harsh but if the parents can't get their kids to stop (but they want to and have tried) then try WORKING WITH THE PARENTS, I am sure if the parents are wanting to their kids to behave and have tried everything, then they won't have a problem trying another approach, I know I would.

Why should we give them multiple chances to kill innocent people before taking any real action against them.

Would you be happy if the second time or third time it happened one of your family was seriously injured or killed by these idiots?

No matter how old you are, you know that it is wrong to be doing this type of thing and if you don't then you certainly should not be allowed out of doors without constant. adult supervision.

because they are just kids and like someone else said '' they have no real awareness of the carnage and damage this can cause!''

kids are always wanting to do things like this just to see what would happen, i used to be the same as a kid, i didn't play on railway tracks, but i did a lot more stuff that could have killed people. a parent can tell their child A LOT of things that are good and bad to do, they may NOT touch on every subject like don't put slabs on a railway track as it MAY NOT be something they think their kid would do in the 1st place or it may seem like common sense to them, so the thought never crossed their minds until someone like a police officer brings the child home and tell them.

i bet if you tried not even you could put down EVERYTHING that you should tell your kids not to do without missing a lot out.

Ah ok so its fine if they kill your family then.

I don't believe I said that, but if they do it for the 1st and the results in death l, then yeah it would be upsetting and if the child lives then that is just a lesson he/she will learn not to do again and then we let our justice system do something about it.

If it does not result in death and the child is caught, then at least no harm done and the parents can talk to their child. You have to remember that they are JUST KIDS and they do need teaching right from wrong and as I said above a parent can tell them all sorts but they are bound to miss allot of things until the child does it.

You said it yourself not me.

I said we should take action the first time they care caught you said we should let them get away with it multipel times. I asked if you would be ok with you family being hurt or killed on teh second or third time./ As a direct result of letting them off the first time and you said yes let them off.

So your logic is that it is fine to kill people as long as it doesn't happen 3 times, or by the sounds of it, as long as it doesn't happen to your family.

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