i really love the concept of virtual console games with online multiplayer, but i dont think any of the NES games they have right now are particularly great choices for it. maybe if they get contra or bubble bobble or something. what i'd be really interested to see is if they extend this to vc games beyond the NES; there are some great titles for the SNES or N64 i'd love to play online.

in terms of the price, i think it's fair. i'd be totally fine to drop $20 a year for smash online.

Well, they say that they don't plan on using the "Virtual Console" moniker anymore, but that doesn't mean that classic games won't still be re-released. I mean, look at all the Neo-Geo games available to buy on Switch.

Eh. It may not be much money, but people make a reasonable point that online has been free for a year and was free when offered on all previous consoles. If you don't see that as a benefit, then all you're getting for your $20 is cloud saves, some NES games, and ambiguous discounts. Plenty of people further don't care about the NES games, which leaves you cloud saves, discounts of some description, and an online service you were already getting for free in exchange for $20 a year. I'm sure many of the people complaining about it have spent $20 more irresponsibility, but I can see where they're coming from.

Personally, I'm interested in the reasoning for going with NES games as their bundle-in. I completely understand why they didn't copy the PS+ or XBL model and give out new games, since ports and indies seem to be doing exceptionally well as-is, but I feel like most of the people who are really excited about playing Dr. Mario or Balloon Fight online are big enough Nintendo fans that they'd have bought the service without a free games component at all. Imagine if they'd come in with a smaller number of SNES or N64 games instead - you lead with "We have SSB64 online and will add another SNES or N64 game every month" and you'd have people falling over themselves to throw $20 at you even if you only dropped something on that level a few times a year. Might even be able to charge $60 like Sony and Microsoft if you picked mostly from big names.

Maybe they're planning to sell those individually later or there's some obscure technical reason why they can't do it on the Switch. Surely they're not that allergic to money.

Considering I doubt they'll be providing any killer apps for it, just the stuff they've done before - and not for free, remember - these are full-priced games people will be taking online. 20 dollars doesn't sound like much, but they can only get away with it because it's a closed platform. I love the few games I own for the system, but they're not exactly cranking them out, and I only really want more local co-op and the like.

I muttered 'light as a board, stiff as a feather' for 2 days straight and now I've ascended, ;aughing at olympus and zeus is crying