What you so called "calling people fake fans, because we didn't care if they won today" fans need to know, is that we didn't want the Titans to win today in a meaningless game, because a win doesn't do anything at all for us right now, and it gives Munch another pass.

When will you guys realize we don't give 2 ***** about a draft pick? We just don't want Munch to get another shot ever again.

But if this win makes you guys proud and gives this stupid ass staff another shot, then you can be my pleasure..

I definitely think Forum crybaby levels are at an all-time high.

I'm happy my team won. I don't think it will make a difference on Munch staying as I think he is gone regardless.

But he said that the Titans is a winning organization. Titans hasn't been winning under Munchak.

“I'm disappointed because I like winning,” Smith said when asked about the more than $100 million the Titans spent on free agents. “I don't like losing. We're not in the losing business. We're in the winning business. It's nice to be competitive and say you got close. … We're not into that. I'm happy with the talent we brought in, so from a dollar standpoint I think we got value worth there, but we've got a lot of work to do.”

Per Michael Bonzagni of ESPN Stats and Information: In Munchak's 45 games as head coach, he is 4-17 against teams with winning records before the game and 2-19 against teams that ended the season with a winning record.

I just think the whole "under no circumstances would I ever want my team to lose!" mentality is shortsighted and/or uppity. You say you wouldn't be a fan of a team you wanted to lose. I say I want the team to lose because I'm a fan.

Did you not call the game "meaningless"? It wasn't for the reasons I stated. But no one who knows the NFL should see yesterday's win as anything more than one below average team beating a worse one.

If it somehow makes TS think Munch is his guy for next season, then that is a TS problem.

Did you not call the game "meaningless"? It wasn't for the reasons I stated. But no one who knows the NFL should see yesterday's win as anything more than one below average team beating a worse one.

If it somehow makes TS think Munch is his guy for next season, then that is a TS problem.

I meant meaningless as far as playoff implications go. And that is really what it's all about at the end of the day. Playoffs.

You're right though. These last two games shouldn't have any effect on Tommy Boy's decision one way or the other. But we really know very little/next-to-nothing about the guy. So IMO we can't completely rule it out. 6-10 probably won't cut it. But if we beat Houston and end up 7-9 it's not too difficult for me to imagine him letting Munch play out the final year of his contract.

I guess we'll find out soon enough. Hopefully he really is the "results oriented" guy he says he is.

I meant meaningless as far as playoff implications go. And that is really what it's all about at the end of the day. Playoffs.

Not for me. The Titans wouldn't be more than one and done in the playoffs. It's about competing for a shot at the Super Bowl and the Titans don't have the talent to even be in the discussion right now.

Dumping Munch solves little without some major improvements at DE, LB, RB and QB next season. And that's assuming they sign Casey and Verner.

I guess we'll find out soon enough. Hopefully he really is the "results oriented" guy he says he is.

Exactly. Being results-oriented means taking emotion out of the equation. He can love Munch as a person who is a franchise legend and dedicated coach but feel he isn't the right person to lead this team to the next level. Or, it can mean he's willing to deal with emotional fans by keeping Munch because he knows the current talent on this roster is the real issue and that he's going to need to focus on improving his early-round draft results and getting a few key free agents.

Not for me. The Titans wouldn't be more than one and done in the playoffs. It's about competing for a shot at the Super Bowl and the Titans don't have the talent to even be in the discussion right now.

I agree that should be the ultimate goal. But when it's been 5 straight years of no playoffs, even a one-and-done appearance would be appreciated. At least by me.

Dumping Munch solves little without some major improvements at DE, LB, RB and QB next season. And that's assuming they sign Casey and Verner.

Sure. I don't think anyone is arguing that the struggles of this team are 100% on coaching and there aren't improvements that could be made on the roster.

Or, it can mean he's willing to deal with emotional fans by keeping Munch because he knows the current talent on this roster is the real issue and that he's going to need to focus on improving his early-round draft results and getting a few key free agents.

Here's a crazy idea, why not improve both (coaching and player personnel)???

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