Re: The moon's crookedness is caused by our going toward the center of the galactic plane

Haha, gotcha poor chap! I didn't reply to your post directly, to see if you'd still Reply without getting an automatic prompt from the system that I replied. Looks like you're checking it regardless, so perhaps I should be flattered, I dunno.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26717673

I check a lot of stuff on multiple forums everyday. It has nothing to do with you. And if this site offers any automatic prompt then I have yet to find it. I don't really spend much time in this place.

Yes I will be man enough. I'll be on here and the First to offer my sincere apologies. Don't think it's going to happen though. In my brain, certainty factor resides at the 99.88 percentile.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26717673

Doubt it. I bet you'll disappear and forget you ever made your bogus prediction. If you really think you have that much certainty then I'm really sure there is something wrong with you. Get help please.

Again, when FR explains my opening post, wake me up and I'll munch through your cardboard writing (save for your last post before this one, which admittedly wasn't that bad. but I still trump you in the writing dep't not to mention the Brains) Til then, TaTa!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26717673

Your title is about the supposed moon crookedness and in your post you also added "the forces there are so strong that we tilt even moreso sometimes (given whatever conditions we pass through at any given time), giving that mushroom smoking Cat like grin to the moon we witness, sometimes, even out of season."

Field rotation does explain that even if you refuse to understand it. The rest about a supposed polar shift and supposedly going through the center of the galactic plane has no evidence whatsoever. Certainly none provided by you.

Quoting: Weasel_Turbine

Well well...Good try to downplay your looking for this thread. Very wery weak though.

And implying that someone needs help is just another tactic we're all familiar with, that stupid Book of Q's that you draw so heavily upon, since you can't think enough for yourself to make a convincing argument thus far or Ever!

And along with that, Please don't assume what I'll do or won't do. I've given you my Word, and if you can't accept that as another Gentleman one to another, then I doubt you're even one.

Still, FR doesn't amount to hill of beans in this instance, because again we're talking about certain periods of irregularity. I feel kind of dumbed down to bring this down to your level, but apparently you need it. That's okay, I can talk with the higher (not you) AND lower echelons of society (you), always have.

And if you think I haven't provided any evidence, then you haven't been paying attention thus far. But I'm sure it's not by neglect.

Let me ask you this, did the Mayans pick a date out of the Thin air, for no Reason?

Re: The moon's crookedness is caused by our going toward the center of the galactic plane

I guess the debunkers are working to try and formulate a soundingly intelligent reply to this (I hope anyway). Or they're asleep still.

My guess though is that this will be hard for them to do, because it's true. I suspect the attacks to come to being from Korea or some other sort of personal jabs.

I'll take either, though, if just to keep the good reminder out in the front, even if just momentarily. And yeah that's my only bump.

Oh and they also know that it's sometimes best to wait until the OP goes offline, instead of going toe-to-toe.

If that's the case, be sure if you post if I'm gone, doesn't mean I'll neglect coming back eventually.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22569292

Right.. as usual, ANYTHING is proof of a conspiracy. If nobody bothers to debunk something, it's proof it's true... if lots of people debunk something, THAT is ALSO proof it is true. Yawn.

Quoting: Menow 27313201

Yawn is right--to your Bland blech post!

Let me ask you this, hotshot: this Thread wasn't on the first page when you decided to respond to it I suspect, right? Did it get put on your Radar or list of things to Do by you or by someone giving it to you?

I suspected after awhile another Gun would come in, when the thread gets to a certain level of attention. Another predictable occurrence.. I guess I'm glad though it's gotten there!

Re: The moon's crookedness is caused by our going toward the center of the galactic plane

This is a great reasoning for what is a major problem with the moon. Thanks

Quoting: grasptheuniverse

Certainly--thank YOU for the encouragement. I hate it when it's only filled with the naysayers, and it just goes into quibbling back and forth, but I guess it still does bump it for others.

In that case too, remember if this gets Pinned, I'll share some very juicy stuff of a personal nature that'll at least show that I Believe in Everything that I've said thus far in a completely convincing light. That's my best advertisement for this thread anyway.

Re: The moon's crookedness is caused by our going toward the center of the galactic plane

Anybody who doesn't believe field rotation exists care to answer this question?: Do both Earth and Moon have axes and north rotational poles which point the same direction... north?

Quoting: Menow 18943200

First, FR is a non-issue to the crux of this thread.

Second, the Moon has no Rotational pole to speak of. It doesn't even have a magnetic north pole. The most that can be said is that it has a Directional North, so that really renders the applicability of your point mute or irrelevant.

Besides, no one is saying that FR doesn't exist anyway for things like the stars in our sky.

Re: The moon's crookedness is caused by our going toward the center of the galactic plane

This is a great reasoning for what is a major problem with the moon. Thanks

Quoting: grasptheuniverse

Sorry to spoil your doom, but there are no major problems with the moon.

Quoting: Menow 18943200

Maybe not, but there certainly is with the Earth, and so the Moon will reflect that just like it reflects more light from the Sun. Good misdirection Mr. Slight (and I mean slight, not sleight, although that too applies) of Hand.

Re: The moon's crookedness is caused by our going toward the center of the galactic plane

I guess the debunkers are working to try and formulate a soundingly intelligent reply to this (I hope anyway). Or they're asleep still.

My guess though is that this will be hard for them to do, because it's true. I suspect the attacks to come to being from Korea or some other sort of personal jabs.

I'll take either, though, if just to keep the good reminder out in the front, even if just momentarily. And yeah that's my only bump.

Oh and they also know that it's sometimes best to wait until the OP goes offline, instead of going toe-to-toe.

If that's the case, be sure if you post if I'm gone, doesn't mean I'll neglect coming back eventually.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22569292

Right.. as usual, ANYTHING is proof of a conspiracy. If nobody bothers to debunk something, it's proof it's true... if lots of people debunk something, THAT is ALSO proof it is true. Yawn.

Quoting: Menow 27313201

Yawn is right--to your Bland blech post!

Let me ask you this, hotshot: this Thread wasn't on the first page when you decided to respond to it I suspect, right? Did it get put on your Radar or list of things to Do by you or by someone giving it to you?

I suspected after awhile another Gun would come in, when the thread gets to a certain level of attention. Another predictable occurrence.. I guess I'm glad though it's gotten there!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

Yes, I'm sure this thread, and others like it, are all about getting attention.

Re: The moon's crookedness is caused by our going toward the center of the galactic plane

I guess the debunkers are working to try and formulate a soundingly intelligent reply to this (I hope anyway). Or they're asleep still.

My guess though is that this will be hard for them to do, because it's true. I suspect the attacks to come to being from Korea or some other sort of personal jabs.

I'll take either, though, if just to keep the good reminder out in the front, even if just momentarily. And yeah that's my only bump.

Oh and they also know that it's sometimes best to wait until the OP goes offline, instead of going toe-to-toe.

If that's the case, be sure if you post if I'm gone, doesn't mean I'll neglect coming back eventually.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22569292

Right.. as usual, ANYTHING is proof of a conspiracy. If nobody bothers to debunk something, it's proof it's true... if lots of people debunk something, THAT is ALSO proof it is true. Yawn.

Quoting: Menow 27313201

Yawn is right--to your Bland blech post!

Let me ask you this, hotshot: this Thread wasn't on the first page when you decided to respond to it I suspect, right? Did it get put on your Radar or list of things to Do by you or by someone giving it to you?

I suspected after awhile another Gun would come in, when the thread gets to a certain level of attention. Another predictable occurrence.. I guess I'm glad though it's gotten there!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

Yes, I'm sure this thread, and others like it, are all about getting attention.

Quoting: Menow 18943200

What?? Oh Lordy, I hope this isn't the best you can do, trying to come in like some Cavalier of Last resort to calm everybody back into their Consumerish lifestyles, like everything will continue to go on forever the same?

And you didn't answer my Question. But I won't press it, since it's already obvious.

Re: The moon's crookedness is caused by our going toward the center of the galactic plane

Anybody who doesn't believe field rotation exists care to answer this question?: Do both Earth and Moon have axes and north rotational poles which point the same direction... north?

Quoting: Menow 18943200

First, FR is a non-issue to the crux of this thread.

Second, the Moon has no Rotational pole to speak of.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

Say what? Are you one of these "the moon does not rotate" people? That wouldn't surprise me.

It doesn't even have a magnetic north pole.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

Irrelevant. That wasn't the question.

The most that can be said is that it has a Directional North, so that really renders the applicability of your point mute or irrelevant.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

First, it's "moot", not "mute" and it does no such thing. In fact, the idea of a directional north will serve just fine. I'll elaborate shortly.

Besides, no one is saying that FR doesn't exist anyway for things like the stars in our sky.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

Things LIKE the stars? What is LIKE the stars, in your mind? The planets? The milky way? The sun? The galaxies? The celestial sphere in general? The entire SKY and EVERYTHING IN IT? Of course it applies to all those things. How could it not?

Re: The moon's crookedness is caused by our going toward the center of the galactic plane

This is a great reasoning for what is a major problem with the moon. Thanks

Quoting: grasptheuniverse

Sorry to spoil your doom, but there are no major problems with the moon.

Quoting: Menow 18943200

Maybe not, but there certainly is with the Earth, and so the Moon will reflect that just like it reflects more light from the Sun. Good misdirection Mr. Slight (and I mean slight, not sleight, although that too applies) of Hand.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

So I guess you are claiming that Earth is abnormally tilted or wobbling? Have any direct proof of that, like time lapse images of Polaris, showing that it is no longer near the rotational center of the northern sky?

Re: The moon's crookedness is caused by our going toward the center of the galactic plane

Anybody who doesn't believe field rotation exists care to answer this question?: Do both Earth and Moon have axes and north rotational poles which point the same direction... north?

Quoting: Menow 18943200

First, FR is a non-issue to the crux of this thread.

Second, the Moon has no Rotational pole to speak of.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

Say what? Are you one of these "the moon does not rotate" people? That wouldn't surprise me.

It doesn't even have a magnetic north pole.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

Irrelevant. That wasn't the question.

The most that can be said is that it has a Directional North, so that really renders the applicability of your point mute or irrelevant.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

First, it's "moot", not "mute" and it does no such thing. In fact, the idea of a directional north will serve just fine. I'll elaborate shortly.

Besides, no one is saying that FR doesn't exist anyway for things like the stars in our sky.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

Things LIKE the stars? What is LIKE the stars, in your mind? The planets? The milky way? The sun? The galaxies? The celestial sphere in general? The entire SKY and EVERYTHING IN IT? Of course it applies to all those things. How could it not?

It doesn't surprise me that you are of the traditional (read: brain-warshed people) academia who teaches us of Dark Matter or Quantum Physics or Gravity or the Big Ban or Relativity or Evolution (macro) or well you get the picture (maybe).

Not irrelevant.

When I spell something I spell it the way I WANT, because it does also MUTE your point! Language is a tool, that we can use it how ever we see fit, we are NOT slaves to it, but that point escapes you, like everything else no doubt.

When two people are looking at the Moon, one from the Northern Hemisphere and one from the Southern, that's when the viewpoint changes of the Moon substantially. Libration was traditionally the only view of the Moon that changed, not because of Field rotation. Still, you're making this about FR which again is NOT, at least Kathy had the wherewithall to address the fundamental aspect of my thread with her crescent weak analysis. And Failed. But you know of her failure, so you're back with the only thing you have left, FR. And it simply does not suffice. Sorry.

Re: The moon's crookedness is caused by our going toward the center of the galactic plane

This is a great reasoning for what is a major problem with the moon. Thanks

Quoting: grasptheuniverse

Sorry to spoil your doom, but there are no major problems with the moon.

Quoting: Menow 18943200

Maybe not, but there certainly is with the Earth, and so the Moon will reflect that just like it reflects more light from the Sun. Good misdirection Mr. Slight (and I mean slight, not sleight, although that too applies) of Hand.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

So I guess you are claiming that Earth is abnormally tilted or wobbling? Have any direct proof of that, like time lapse images of Polaris, showing that it is no longer near the rotational center of the northern sky?

Quoting: Menow 18943200

I'm glad you haven't been reading anything in this thread, because this has already been addressed.

Re: The moon's crookedness is caused by our going toward the center of the galactic plane

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Right.. as usual, ANYTHING is proof of a conspiracy. If nobody bothers to debunk something, it's proof it's true... if lots of people debunk something, THAT is ALSO proof it is true. Yawn.

Quoting: Menow 27313201

Yawn is right--to your Bland blech post!

Let me ask you this, hotshot: this Thread wasn't on the first page when you decided to respond to it I suspect, right? Did it get put on your Radar or list of things to Do by you or by someone giving it to you?

I suspected after awhile another Gun would come in, when the thread gets to a certain level of attention. Another predictable occurrence.. I guess I'm glad though it's gotten there!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

Yes, I'm sure this thread, and others like it, are all about getting attention.

Quoting: Menow 18943200

What?? Oh Lordy, I hope this isn't the best you can do, trying to come in like some Cavalier of Last resort to calm everybody back into their Consumerish lifestyles, like everything will continue to go on forever the same?

And you didn't answer my Question. But I won't press it, since it's already obvious.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

You mean like how it's "obvious" to you and a few other wackos that then moon is abnormally "tilting" in the sky? In other words, you are freaking out about things which are normal.

Re: The moon's crookedness is caused by our going toward the center of the galactic plane

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Yawn is right--to your Bland blech post!

Let me ask you this, hotshot: this Thread wasn't on the first page when you decided to respond to it I suspect, right? Did it get put on your Radar or list of things to Do by you or by someone giving it to you?

I suspected after awhile another Gun would come in, when the thread gets to a certain level of attention. Another predictable occurrence.. I guess I'm glad though it's gotten there!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

Yes, I'm sure this thread, and others like it, are all about getting attention.

Quoting: Menow 18943200

What?? Oh Lordy, I hope this isn't the best you can do, trying to come in like some Cavalier of Last resort to calm everybody back into their Consumerish lifestyles, like everything will continue to go on forever the same?

And you didn't answer my Question. But I won't press it, since it's already obvious.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

You mean like how it's "obvious" to you and a few other wackos that then moon is abnormally "tilting" in the sky? In other words, you are freaking out about things which are normal.

Quoting: Menow 18943200

Don't play the wacko jacko card bub, it's a worn out tactic. All you got?

Re: The moon's crookedness is caused by our going toward the center of the galactic plane

Anybody who doesn't believe field rotation exists care to answer this question?: Do both Earth and Moon have axes and north rotational poles which point the same direction... north?

Quoting: Menow 18943200

First, FR is a non-issue to the crux of this thread.

Second, the Moon has no Rotational pole to speak of.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

Say what? Are you one of these "the moon does not rotate" people? That wouldn't surprise me.

It doesn't even have a magnetic north pole.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

Irrelevant. That wasn't the question.

The most that can be said is that it has a Directional North, so that really renders the applicability of your point mute or irrelevant.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

First, it's "moot", not "mute" and it does no such thing. In fact, the idea of a directional north will serve just fine. I'll elaborate shortly.

Besides, no one is saying that FR doesn't exist anyway for things like the stars in our sky.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

Things LIKE the stars? What is LIKE the stars, in your mind? The planets? The milky way? The sun? The galaxies? The celestial sphere in general? The entire SKY and EVERYTHING IN IT? Of course it applies to all those things. How could it not?

It doesn't surprise me that you are of the traditional (read: brain-warshed people) academia who teaches us of Dark Matter or Quantum Physics or Gravity or the Big Ban or Relativity or Evolution (macro) or well you get the picture (maybe).

Not irrelevant.

When I spell something I spell it the way I WANT,

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

Really? So you WANTED to say "brain-warshed" and "Big Ban"?

I digress. Let's move on to the point, if you are capable of grasping it.

because it does also MUTE your point! Language is a tool, that we can use it how ever we see fit, we are NOT slaves to it, but that point escapes you, like everything else no doubt.

When two people are looking at the Moon, one from the Northern Hemisphere and one from the Southern, that's when the viewpoint changes of the Moon substantially. Libration was traditionally the only view of the Moon that changed, not because of Field rotation. Still, you're making this about FR which again is NOT, at least Kathy had the wherewithall to address the fundamental aspect of my thread with her crescent weak analysis. And Failed. But you know of her failure, so you're back with the only thing you have left, FR. And it simply does not suffice. Sorry.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

YOU are making it about field rotation by claiming that phenomenon didn't exist until recently. That claim of yours is absurd.

So... you admit that the moon has a "north". Do you also admit that Earth has a "north" and that both of those "norths" point "north" toward the object we call the "north star"- Polaris?

Re: The moon's crookedness is caused by our going toward the center of the galactic plane

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First, FR is a non-issue to the crux of this thread.

Second, the Moon has no Rotational pole to speak of.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

Say what? Are you one of these "the moon does not rotate" people? That wouldn't surprise me.

It doesn't even have a magnetic north pole.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

Irrelevant. That wasn't the question.

The most that can be said is that it has a Directional North, so that really renders the applicability of your point mute or irrelevant.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

First, it's "moot", not "mute" and it does no such thing. In fact, the idea of a directional north will serve just fine. I'll elaborate shortly.

Besides, no one is saying that FR doesn't exist anyway for things like the stars in our sky.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

Things LIKE the stars? What is LIKE the stars, in your mind? The planets? The milky way? The sun? The galaxies? The celestial sphere in general? The entire SKY and EVERYTHING IN IT? Of course it applies to all those things. How could it not?

It doesn't surprise me that you are of the traditional (read: brain-warshed people) academia who teaches us of Dark Matter or Quantum Physics or Gravity or the Big Ban or Relativity or Evolution (macro) or well you get the picture (maybe).

Not irrelevant.

When I spell something I spell it the way I WANT,

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

Really? So you WANTED to say "brain-warshed" and "Big Ban"?

I digress. Let's move on to the point, if you are capable of grasping it.

because it does also MUTE your point! Language is a tool, that we can use it how ever we see fit, we are NOT slaves to it, but that point escapes you, like everything else no doubt.

When two people are looking at the Moon, one from the Northern Hemisphere and one from the Southern, that's when the viewpoint changes of the Moon substantially. Libration was traditionally the only view of the Moon that changed, not because of Field rotation. Still, you're making this about FR which again is NOT, at least Kathy had the wherewithall to address the fundamental aspect of my thread with her crescent weak analysis. And Failed. But you know of her failure, so you're back with the only thing you have left, FR. And it simply does not suffice. Sorry.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

YOU are making it about field rotation by claiming that phenomenon didn't exist until recently. That claim of yours is absurd.

So... you admit that the moon has a "north". Do you also admit that Earth has a "north" and that both of those "norths" point "north" toward the object we call the "north star"- Polaris?

Quoting: Menow 18943200

I meant waRshed. I slipped up on Big Ban(g), but I find that was also fitting. Why keep drawing attention to certain minuscule points? Ahh

I only make a point of FR because that is the argument from the simpletons, yourself included. Why can't you grasp this easy-enough concept?

This is Not about Polaris, at least not yet, until the Big BanG hits. Can you understand?

To you: care to explain to everyone how we even have a magnetosphere? Let's put your 'knowledge' to an Easy test.

Re: The moon's crookedness is caused by our going toward the center of the galactic plane

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Sorry to spoil your doom, but there are no major problems with the moon.

Quoting: Menow 18943200

Maybe not, but there certainly is with the Earth, and so the Moon will reflect that just like it reflects more light from the Sun. Good misdirection Mr. Slight (and I mean slight, not sleight, although that too applies) of Hand.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

So I guess you are claiming that Earth is abnormally tilted or wobbling? Have any direct proof of that, like time lapse images of Polaris, showing that it is no longer near the rotational center of the northern sky?

Quoting: Menow 18943200

I'm glad you haven't been reading anything in this thread, because this has already been addressed.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

I asked to different questions there. Which has allegedly been addressed? Actually, I have read the thread, but be so kind as to remind me.

Re: The moon's crookedness is caused by our going toward the center of the galactic plane

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Maybe not, but there certainly is with the Earth, and so the Moon will reflect that just like it reflects more light from the Sun. Good misdirection Mr. Slight (and I mean slight, not sleight, although that too applies) of Hand.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

So I guess you are claiming that Earth is abnormally tilted or wobbling? Have any direct proof of that, like time lapse images of Polaris, showing that it is no longer near the rotational center of the northern sky?

Quoting: Menow 18943200

I'm glad you haven't been reading anything in this thread, because this has already been addressed.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

I asked to different questions there. Which has allegedly been addressed? Actually, I have read the thread, but be so kind as to remind me.

Quoting: Menow 18943200

Not a chance, not to YOU anyway. If somebody else asks, sure. But again, not You.

Re: The moon's crookedness is caused by our going toward the center of the galactic plane

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So I guess you are claiming that Earth is abnormally tilted or wobbling? Have any direct proof of that, like time lapse images of Polaris, showing that it is no longer near the rotational center of the northern sky?

Quoting: Menow 18943200

I'm glad you haven't been reading anything in this thread, because this has already been addressed.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

I asked to different questions there. Which has allegedly been addressed? Actually, I have read the thread, but be so kind as to remind me.

Quoting: Menow 18943200

Not a chance, not to YOU anyway. If somebody else asks, sure. But again, not You.

Did you mean "two" different questions?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374412

I did mean "two" and I'm not the one who claimed to always type exactly what I mean to type. I see... you refuse to state your position. How droll.