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Elizabeth Nolan
9:39am Mon 28 Apr 14

Only in February this year it was my son, Jamie Nolan's, inquest where his hospital visits were ignored and he was discharged the day after he was found with a rope in his room. Again they said he was attention seeking. I was promised that something was being done. Obviously not or not enough. Mental health is a big issue. It is estimated that 1 in 4 people will have mental health issues at some point. Children aged 5 to 16 have a 1 in 10 chance of mental health issues that's 3 in every class in Britain. As an ex teacher of 27 years I think thetrue number is higher. Fifty per cent of adults suffering mentalhhealth issues were diagnosed as children. Ninety five per cent of prisoners have mental health issues. Surely it is a false economy to brush over these mental health issues when in the long run we are supporting these people in prison for years. Or is it that without adequate help they will have ended their lives long before they end up in prison.

Only in February this year it was my son, Jamie Nolan's, inquest where his hospital visits were ignored and he was discharged the day after he was found with a rope in his room. Again they said he was attention seeking. I was promised that something was being done. Obviously not or not enough. Mental health is a big issue. It is estimated that 1 in 4 people will have mental health issues at some point. Children aged 5 to 16 have a 1 in 10 chance of mental health issues that's 3 in every class in Britain. As an ex teacher of 27 years I think thetrue number is higher. Fifty per cent of adults suffering mentalhhealth issues were diagnosed as children. Ninety five per cent of prisoners have mental health issues. Surely it is a false economy to brush over these mental health issues when in the long run we are supporting these people in prison for years. Or is it that without adequate help they will have ended their lives long before they end up in prison.Elizabeth Nolan

Only in February this year it was my son, Jamie Nolan's, inquest where his hospital visits were ignored and he was discharged the day after he was found with a rope in his room. Again they said he was attention seeking. I was promised that something was being done. Obviously not or not enough. Mental health is a big issue. It is estimated that 1 in 4 people will have mental health issues at some point. Children aged 5 to 16 have a 1 in 10 chance of mental health issues that's 3 in every class in Britain. As an ex teacher of 27 years I think thetrue number is higher. Fifty per cent of adults suffering mentalhhealth issues were diagnosed as children. Ninety five per cent of prisoners have mental health issues. Surely it is a false economy to brush over these mental health issues when in the long run we are supporting these people in prison for years. Or is it that without adequate help they will have ended their lives long before they end up in prison.

Score: 57

Bolton73
10:52am Mon 28 Apr 14

My daughter suffers from mental health issues and is cared for by Bolton Child and Adolescent Mental Services, she has also been seen in A&E over 10 times in the past 12 months after episodes of self harm. The staff in both departments have always been excellent and done their best for my child. However, there is a massive lack of funding and shortage of mental health beds across the country. On a number of occasions my daughter has been put on the children's ward or sent home due to the lack of suitable beds. I've been asked to take her home and ring the police if I can't cope with her and they'd keep her safe in a police cell. Mental illness is just that, an illness. It needs appropriate funding and resources then children who are crying out for help get the care they desperately need.

My daughter suffers from mental health issues and is cared for by Bolton Child and Adolescent Mental Services, she has also been seen in A&E over 10 times in the past 12 months after episodes of self harm. The staff in both departments have always been excellent and done their best for my child. However, there is a massive lack of funding and shortage of mental health beds across the country. On a number of occasions my daughter has been put on the children's ward or sent home due to the lack of suitable beds. I've been asked to take her home and ring the police if I can't cope with her and they'd keep her safe in a police cell. Mental illness is just that, an illness. It needs appropriate funding and resources then children who are crying out for help get the care they desperately need.Bolton73

My daughter suffers from mental health issues and is cared for by Bolton Child and Adolescent Mental Services, she has also been seen in A&E over 10 times in the past 12 months after episodes of self harm. The staff in both departments have always been excellent and done their best for my child. However, there is a massive lack of funding and shortage of mental health beds across the country. On a number of occasions my daughter has been put on the children's ward or sent home due to the lack of suitable beds. I've been asked to take her home and ring the police if I can't cope with her and they'd keep her safe in a police cell. Mental illness is just that, an illness. It needs appropriate funding and resources then children who are crying out for help get the care they desperately need.

Score: 30

cliff4treasurer
12:45pm Mon 28 Apr 14

I thought that's what parents where for?

I thought that's what parents where for?cliff4treasurer

I thought that's what parents where for?

Score: -46

donna x73x
1:16pm Mon 28 Apr 14

To cliff4treasurer
Feel like I have to answer your idiotic comment ! Do you realise what it's like to be a parent of a child with mental health problems? Yes it is a parents responsibility to protect their child from danger BUT when that danger is themselves it is the hardest thing you would ever have to deal with ! When you are scared out of your mind about leaving medication sharp objects lying around the list is endless you spend your whole life backtracking checking and rechecking that your child is safe from self harm. But with the best will in the world NO parent can police their child 24 hours a day no matter how much we would like. That's why medical staff need to take these children who are crying out for help seriously !!

To cliff4treasurer
Feel like I have to answer your idiotic comment ! Do you realise what it's like to be a parent of a child with mental health problems? Yes it is a parents responsibility to protect their child from danger BUT when that danger is themselves it is the hardest thing you would ever have to deal with ! When you are scared out of your mind about leaving medication sharp objects lying around the list is endless you spend your whole life backtracking checking and rechecking that your child is safe from self harm. But with the best will in the world NO parent can police their child 24 hours a day no matter how much we would like. That's why medical staff need to take these children who are crying out for help seriously !!donna x73x

To cliff4treasurer
Feel like I have to answer your idiotic comment ! Do you realise what it's like to be a parent of a child with mental health problems? Yes it is a parents responsibility to protect their child from danger BUT when that danger is themselves it is the hardest thing you would ever have to deal with ! When you are scared out of your mind about leaving medication sharp objects lying around the list is endless you spend your whole life backtracking checking and rechecking that your child is safe from self harm. But with the best will in the world NO parent can police their child 24 hours a day no matter how much we would like. That's why medical staff need to take these children who are crying out for help seriously !!

Score: 36

boltonnut
1:43pm Mon 28 Apr 14

With all due respects to Aleysha she was not tragic,she was troubled.The BN head line reads as though she was the tragic one and not the situation or troubles she was dealing with.The tragic part is the fact that this unfortunate young lady didn't receive any help.Hopefully some good will come out of this situation.

With all due respects to Aleysha she was not tragic,she was troubled.The BN head line reads as though she was the tragic one and not the situation or troubles she was dealing with.The tragic part is the fact that this unfortunate young lady didn't receive any help.Hopefully some good will come out of this situation.boltonnut

With all due respects to Aleysha she was not tragic,she was troubled.The BN head line reads as though she was the tragic one and not the situation or troubles she was dealing with.The tragic part is the fact that this unfortunate young lady didn't receive any help.Hopefully some good will come out of this situation.

Score: 8

Bolton73
1:58pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Cliff4treasurer are you advocating parents should be treating their child's mental illness themselves? I can assure you I spend every waking minute trying my best to support my child, researching her illness, seeking ways of helping her but I'm not a professional. Trust me I'd rather not be attending therapy with her, medicating her. I'd rather she was able to attend school and have friends and be happy. She didn't choose to be ill. If she was physically disabled, or had a brain tumour or a heart condition I'm sure you'd never dream of making such a flippant remark.

Cliff4treasurer are you advocating parents should be treating their child's mental illness themselves? I can assure you I spend every waking minute trying my best to support my child, researching her illness, seeking ways of helping her but I'm not a professional. Trust me I'd rather not be attending therapy with her, medicating her. I'd rather she was able to attend school and have friends and be happy. She didn't choose to be ill. If she was physically disabled, or had a brain tumour or a heart condition I'm sure you'd never dream of making such a flippant remark.Bolton73

Cliff4treasurer are you advocating parents should be treating their child's mental illness themselves? I can assure you I spend every waking minute trying my best to support my child, researching her illness, seeking ways of helping her but I'm not a professional. Trust me I'd rather not be attending therapy with her, medicating her. I'd rather she was able to attend school and have friends and be happy. She didn't choose to be ill. If she was physically disabled, or had a brain tumour or a heart condition I'm sure you'd never dream of making such a flippant remark.

Score: 19

donna x73x
2:24pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Bolton73 wrote…

Cliff4treasurer are you advocating parents should be treating their child's mental illness themselves? I can assure you I spend every waking minute trying my best to support my child, researching her illness, seeking ways of helping her but I'm not a professional. Trust me I'd rather not be attending therapy with her, medicating her. I'd rather she was able to attend school and have friends and be happy. She didn't choose to be ill. If she was physically disabled, or had a brain tumour or a heart condition I'm sure you'd never dream of making such a flippant remark.

Totally agree with you I spend my every waking moment worrying about the what ifs I worry so much about my son's future and I attend every appointment with him, I just wish I could make things better for him but the truth is there is no quick fix. Each day is a new worry and everyday is different . I would love my son to lead a normal happy life but the truth is he is mentally incapable and needs PROFESSIONAL help x

[quote][p][bold]Bolton73[/bold] wrote:
Cliff4treasurer are you advocating parents should be treating their child's mental illness themselves? I can assure you I spend every waking minute trying my best to support my child, researching her illness, seeking ways of helping her but I'm not a professional. Trust me I'd rather not be attending therapy with her, medicating her. I'd rather she was able to attend school and have friends and be happy. She didn't choose to be ill. If she was physically disabled, or had a brain tumour or a heart condition I'm sure you'd never dream of making such a flippant remark.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with you I spend my every waking moment worrying about the what ifs I worry so much about my son's future and I attend every appointment with him, I just wish I could make things better for him but the truth is there is no quick fix. Each day is a new worry and everyday is different . I would love my son to lead a normal happy life but the truth is he is mentally incapable and needs PROFESSIONAL help xdonna x73x

Bolton73 wrote…

Cliff4treasurer are you advocating parents should be treating their child's mental illness themselves? I can assure you I spend every waking minute trying my best to support my child, researching her illness, seeking ways of helping her but I'm not a professional. Trust me I'd rather not be attending therapy with her, medicating her. I'd rather she was able to attend school and have friends and be happy. She didn't choose to be ill. If she was physically disabled, or had a brain tumour or a heart condition I'm sure you'd never dream of making such a flippant remark.

Totally agree with you I spend my every waking moment worrying about the what ifs I worry so much about my son's future and I attend every appointment with him, I just wish I could make things better for him but the truth is there is no quick fix. Each day is a new worry and everyday is different . I would love my son to lead a normal happy life but the truth is he is mentally incapable and needs PROFESSIONAL help x

Score: 9

Carl.Clarkson
4:31pm Mon 28 Apr 14

There has been a number of similar cases like this over the years, a quick search reveals a number of articles;

There has been a number of similar cases like this over the years, a quick search reveals a number of articles;
http://www.thebolton
news.co.uk/news/2290
397.Man_killed_himse
lf_after_escaping_me
ntal_health_unit/
http://www.thebolton
news.co.uk/news/2385
316.Mum_of_teen_stil
l_waiting_for_suicid
e_answers/
http://www.thebolton
news.co.uk/comment/c
omment/8959982.Alarm
ed_by_approach_of_st
aff_on_the_mental_he
alth_wards/
http://www.mancheste
reveningnews.co.uk/n
ews/greater-manchest
er-news/tragedy-of-s
it-in-farmer-1089521
http://www.thisislan
cashire.co.uk/news/8
921458.Suicidal_man_
had_tried_to_escape_
___secure_ward___/Carl.Clarkson

There has been a number of similar cases like this over the years, a quick search reveals a number of articles;

Sorry, it is both sad and disturbing, my heart goes out to this poor girl and anyone else who has been or is afflicted with mental health conditions. More needs to be done and if a quick search reveals a number of similar results then maybe an investigation needs to be carried out as to why this problems is constantly reoccurring.

Sorry, it is both sad and disturbing, my heart goes out to this poor girl and anyone else who has been or is afflicted with mental health conditions. More needs to be done and if a quick search reveals a number of similar results then maybe an investigation needs to be carried out as to why this problems is constantly reoccurring.Carl.Clarkson

Sorry, it is both sad and disturbing, my heart goes out to this poor girl and anyone else who has been or is afflicted with mental health conditions. More needs to be done and if a quick search reveals a number of similar results then maybe an investigation needs to be carried out as to why this problems is constantly reoccurring.

Score: 10

Best an
5:23pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Aleysha had problems due to events her younger years and I'm sure the hospital knew this She should have had a CPN and a care worker who she could turn to if they couldn't admit her , my daughter was given these years ago and they were brilliant.
This has caused those children who are her friends huge trauma and what for? A few thousand pounds from the joke of an NHS.

Aleysha had problems due to events her younger years and I'm sure the hospital knew this She should have had a CPN and a care worker who she could turn to if they couldn't admit her , my daughter was given these years ago and they were brilliant.
This has caused those children who are her friends huge trauma and what for? A few thousand pounds from the joke of an NHS.Best an

Aleysha had problems due to events her younger years and I'm sure the hospital knew this She should have had a CPN and a care worker who she could turn to if they couldn't admit her , my daughter was given these years ago and they were brilliant.
This has caused those children who are her friends huge trauma and what for? A few thousand pounds from the joke of an NHS.

Score: 3

donna x73x
6:25pm Mon 28 Apr 14

My son has a support worker to be honest they see him once a fortnight talk to him for an hour while I wait in the waiting room nothings changed this has been going on for a year . He attempted suicide and was taken to a secure unit were he would be properly assessed they failed to change his outlook on life and his future as he would not interact with them !!! So here we are 1 yr down the line nothings changed and it's frightening hearing about youngsters who have everything in the world to live for being so low and having nowhere to turn that the only way out they see is to end their lives ! Something definitely needs changing and soon !!

My son has a support worker to be honest they see him once a fortnight talk to him for an hour while I wait in the waiting room nothings changed this has been going on for a year . He attempted suicide and was taken to a secure unit were he would be properly assessed they failed to change his outlook on life and his future as he would not interact with them !!! So here we are 1 yr down the line nothings changed and it's frightening hearing about youngsters who have everything in the world to live for being so low and having nowhere to turn that the only way out they see is to end their lives ! Something definitely needs changing and soon !!donna x73x

My son has a support worker to be honest they see him once a fortnight talk to him for an hour while I wait in the waiting room nothings changed this has been going on for a year . He attempted suicide and was taken to a secure unit were he would be properly assessed they failed to change his outlook on life and his future as he would not interact with them !!! So here we are 1 yr down the line nothings changed and it's frightening hearing about youngsters who have everything in the world to live for being so low and having nowhere to turn that the only way out they see is to end their lives ! Something definitely needs changing and soon !!

Score: 3

User007
6:47pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Anyone affected by the loss of a loved one to suicide can contact a national charity with local support groups

http://uk-sobs.org.u
k/

Bolton (support group)

Location: Bolton

Meeting day: 3rd Thursday of every month

Phone: Janet and Noel on 01942 201 744

Or phone: Maria on 07976 813 131

Email: janet_taylor7@sky.co
m

Anyone affected by the loss of a loved one to suicide can contact a national charity with local support groups
http://uk-sobs.org.u
k/
Bolton (support group)
Location: Bolton
Meeting day: 3rd Thursday of every month
Phone: Janet and Noel on 01942 201 744
Or phone: Maria on 07976 813 131
Email: janet_taylor7@sky.co
mUser007

Anyone affected by the loss of a loved one to suicide can contact a national charity with local support groups

http://uk-sobs.org.u
k/

Bolton (support group)

Location: Bolton

Meeting day: 3rd Thursday of every month

Phone: Janet and Noel on 01942 201 744

Or phone: Maria on 07976 813 131

Email: janet_taylor7@sky.co
m

Score: 8

Wolfie190
10:37pm Mon 28 Apr 14

All blame the NHS and their employees who are saving lives every day.

All blame the NHS and their employees who are saving lives every day.Wolfie190

All blame the NHS and their employees who are saving lives every day.

Score: 5

Gore Seer
10:17am Tue 29 Apr 14

Blame Some One Else Is Easy, We Are Helpless, Even The Experts Cant Get Into Some Ones Head, There Is No Magic Wand, I Have Had The Rope Round My Head, I Have Been There, Answers, GOD Gives Me My Answers.

Blame Some One Else Is Easy, We Are Helpless, Even The Experts Cant Get Into Some Ones Head, There Is No Magic Wand, I Have Had The Rope Round My Head, I Have Been There, Answers, GOD Gives Me My Answers.Gore Seer

Blame Some One Else Is Easy, We Are Helpless, Even The Experts Cant Get Into Some Ones Head, There Is No Magic Wand, I Have Had The Rope Round My Head, I Have Been There, Answers, GOD Gives Me My Answers.

Score: -2

Lancashire always
9:04pm Tue 29 Apr 14

cliff4treasurer wrote…

I thought that's what parents where for?

Dipstick

[quote][p][bold]cliff4treasurer[/bold] wrote:
I thought that's what parents where for?[/p][/quote]DipstickLancashire always

cliff4treasurer wrote…

I thought that's what parents where for?

Dipstick

Score: 0

Lancashire always
9:10pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Gore Seer wrote…

Blame Some One Else Is Easy, We Are Helpless, Even The Experts Cant Get Into Some Ones Head, There Is No Magic Wand, I Have Had The Rope Round My Head, I Have Been There, Answers, GOD Gives Me My Answers.

Why did your god let you put a rope around your head ? You are really an idiot aren't you

[quote][p][bold]Gore Seer[/bold] wrote:
Blame Some One Else Is Easy, We Are Helpless, Even The Experts Cant Get Into Some Ones Head, There Is No Magic Wand, I Have Had The Rope Round My Head, I Have Been There, Answers, GOD Gives Me My Answers.[/p][/quote]Why did your god let you put a rope around your head ? You are really an idiot aren't youLancashire always

Gore Seer wrote…

Blame Some One Else Is Easy, We Are Helpless, Even The Experts Cant Get Into Some Ones Head, There Is No Magic Wand, I Have Had The Rope Round My Head, I Have Been There, Answers, GOD Gives Me My Answers.

Why did your god let you put a rope around your head ? You are really an idiot aren't you

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