I just had an "early invite", for a nice AB. He is:
9-13-4-21-7-9-21 with little damage and very little endurance.
Started with Expert Attack and Expert Defense.
Arena record: 13-3-0.
Tourneys: haven't added em all up, but no TVs and he went 7-3-0 three times, including the one 2 weeks ago (Champion).
19 Political Points.
12 ratings prior to the tourney, 14 after.
144 skills going into the tourney, 156 after.
No invite prior to the tourney, and no arena since.
Favorites: Epee, Mod/Mod.

I had hoped to sandbag this guy, but he never even got to a Challengers Tourney!

Question for those in the know: should I continue to run this guy? That 7 WL scares me, I'll be dead before I get it to 21! Also, I try to limit my ADM/Primus to the bare minimum.

Last edited by _Buri_ on Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:38 pm; edited 1 time in total

Street_LegalArchMaster Poster

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Posted:
Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:30 pm

Looks like a regular early graduation and not a manual pull. Assur's graduation charts even mention an early graduation at 10 wins, 17 PPs and 125 total skills.

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_Buri_Grandmaster Poster

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Posted:
Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:36 pm

Street_Legal wrote:

Looks like a regular early graduation and not a manual pull. Assur's graduation charts even mention an early graduation at 10 wins, 17 PPs and 125 total skills.

Yeah, I looked at that, but he had all those criteria in place before the tourney, and no invite. The only thing that changed was 2 ratings and 12 skills.

I've had a number of warriors get invited right after their Champs tourney, including one from this tourney (Chili Con Carnage in DM-24). He went 6-3 in the tourney and learned some skills, so it was either the skills or FE that pushed him over the edge.

Not only does the early grad criteria remain enigmatic, but I think its been lowered in recent years to try and make sandbagging more difficult.

MarmaDukeGrandmaster Poster

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Location: NYC tri-state area

Posted:
Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:00 pm

I had the same thing immediately after the tourney. 10 arena wins plus 145+ skills was the reason you got the call.

May your blades always be sharp, and your opponents armor always have rust.....

_Buri_Grandmaster Poster

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Posted:
Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:39 pm

One Armed Bandit wrote:

I've had a number of warriors get invited right after their Champs tourney, including one from this tourney (Chili Con Carnage in DM-24). He went 6-3 in the tourney and learned some skills, so it was either the skills or FE that pushed him over the edge.

Funny you should mention it, Krako (the AB of topic) is the one who eliminated Chili

I'll make it easy for you, Buri. Just transfer him over to me. I will give him a good home in the Chosen's ranks.

CripAdvanced Expert Poster

Joined: Jan 24, 2010
Posts: 131

Posted:
Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:24 am

_Buri_ wrote:

Street_Legal wrote:

Looks like a regular early graduation and not a manual pull. Assur's graduation charts even mention an early graduation at 10 wins, 17 PPs and 125 total skills.

Yeah, I looked at that, but he had all those criteria in place before the tourney, and no invite. The only thing that changed was 2 ratings and 12 skills.

Actually, the other thing you missed is the additional 5 FE from going 7-3 in the tournament. A lot of those early graduations don't happen until about 34 FE total.

Otto_XGrandmaster Poster

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Posted:
Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:58 am

I've been nabbed by those early graduations after tourneys too. The manual pulls are only done before a tourney, right around the freeze time, so this was an automatic graduation by meeting some criteria.