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2 years with a k-60, general route 66, 88, and k1500 sectional machines.

not to mention drum machines since i was 12 and that was 33 years ago. and jetters for over 10 years.

i'm not even going to ask you for your experience and licenses, as i don't want to embarrass you in front of the forum

i also am 1 of the earliest (pre ridgid days) users of sewer cameras, and pipe bursting. not to mention the fact that i have real first hand knowledge of new construction plumbing from the ground work up. this also going back to 1975.

knowing how to run a machine is one thing. knowing what is below the ground and behind the walls is another thing.

like i said before, i can take a person like adam who has 1 day of drain cleaning under his belt and in 6 months of time, make him into the most knowledgeable drain cleaner out there.

the difference between a plumber and a drain cleaner is plumbers that have done new construction have first hand knowledge of the entire plumbing system. a drain cleaner doesn't know plumbing design or layout. not to mention the codes or any real construction experience.

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2 years with a k-60, general route 66, 88, and k1500 sectional machines.

not to mention drum machines since i was 12 and that was 33 years ago. and jetters for over 10 years.

i'm not even going to ask you for your experience and licenses, as i don't want to embarrass you in front of the forum

i also am 1 of the earliest (pre ridgid days) users of sewer cameras, and pipe bursting. not to mention the fact that i have real first hand knowledge of new construction plumbing from the ground work up. this also going back to 1975.

knowing how to run a machine is one thing. knowing what is below the ground and behind the walls is another thing.

like i said before, i can take a person like adam who has 1 day of drain cleaning under his belt and in 6 months of time, make him into the most knowledgeable drain cleaner out there.

the difference between a plumber and a drain cleaner is plumbers that have done new construction have first hand knowledge of the entire plumbing system. a drain cleaner doesn't know plumbing design or layout. not to mention the codes or any real construction experience.

learning/ hands on drain cleaning is a fairly fast process. learning/ hands on plumbing and codes is a very long process.

believe it or not

rick.

yep ok, yep ok, sure ok yep
I`ve only been in plumbing since 1983 so I know nothing about plumbing and codes.
I even have my 3rd apprentice card I got as a youngster when I quit the union co.

yep, the only experience I have is from owning a drain and sewer co. But for some reason I`m even licensed to work on and install big city sewers and septic systems I have also designed a new septic system that we are waiting on the state to approve when the lab get the test results done. But I know nothing but cable sticking

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2 years with a k-60, general route 66, 88, and k1500 sectional machines.

Not to mention drum machines since i was 12 and that was 33 years ago. And jetters for over 10 years.

I'm not even going to ask you for your experience and licenses, as i don't want to embarrass you in front of the forum

I also am 1 of the earliest (pre ridgid days) users of sewer cameras, and pipe bursting. Not to mention the fact that i have real first hand knowledge of new construction plumbing from the ground work up. This also going back to 1975.

Knowing how to run a machine is one thing. Knowing what is below the ground and behind the walls is another thing.

Like i said before, i can take a person like adam who has 1 day of drain cleaning under his belt and in 6 months of time, make him into the most knowledgeable drain cleaner out there.

The difference between a plumber and a drain cleaner is plumbers that have done new construction have first hand knowledge of the entire plumbing system. A drain cleaner doesn't know plumbing design or layout. Not to mention the codes or any real construction experience.

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I may be stupid, slow, or missing something,( maybe all three!) but in the second picture on the first page, the cable seems to be coming out from the underground because the front end, the bulb, is what we are looking at. If someone broke or abandoned the cable you would see a bald end.

Could he have been cabling from another room and wound up coming out into the sink?? Or did someone already point that out?