HYPE! I imagine we'll just get some very vague details but this is awesome regardless. It pretty much confirms it's coming this year, at least in my head. I don't think they'd have an announcement this soon but not release until 2014. People would be pretty upset I think.

HYPE! I imagine we'll just get some very vague details but this is awesome regardless. It pretty much confirms it's coming this year, at least in my head. I don't think they'd have an announcement this soon but not release until 2014. People would be pretty upset I think.

Your move MS. Better make it count.

These are supposed to be Apple type events. There's going to be consoles there and tech demos. Expect game announcements at E3 though.

So they announce it to investors in February, details leak, unofficial specs are released (that are pretty much official...) and Sony says nothing from Feb 20th - E3. Then they reveal a playable version on the floor at E3 plus launch games. Then a Summer full of PS4 hype before a Fall release.

Either way, Sony NEEDS to come out before MS. I honestly think a September release would be perfect. It gives the system 1-2 months before MS releases, which is just enough time for the initial hype to die down before Sony and retailers start pushing holiday bundles.

So they announce it to investors in February, details leak, unofficial specs are released (that are pretty much official...) and Sony says nothing from Feb 20th - E3. Then they reveal a playable version on the floor at E3 plus launch games. Then a Summer full of PS4 hype before a Fall release.

Either way, Sony NEEDS to come out before MS. I honestly think a September release would be perfect. It gives the system 1-2 months before MS releases, which is just enough time for the initial hype to die down before Sony and retailers start pushing holiday bundles.

It's not just investors. It's the press. The press is there because it's a real full fledged announcement. And yes, I think they launch before the Xbox.

It's not just investors. It's the press. The press is there because it's a real full fledged announcement. And yes, I think they launch before the Xbox.

Ah, I thought it was just investors. Well, if that's the case, it makes me wonder if Sony will actually show them the console itself, or just specs, pricing, cover art templates, etc.?

It would only be February 20th, they cant' give away too much information...unless they intend to have a Summer launch?! I could only imagine a Summer launch (July?). Show it off over the next few months. Have playable units at E3. And then announce that it will go on sale sometime in July or August for (hopefully) $499 or less. Considering the rumored specs, I think they could sell it for $499 (with 1 game perhaps?) and the PSEye 2.0 (<-- must be packed-in if they want Move to work/sell).

What do you all think, would a July/August release be better for Sony and the PS4 (assuming no manufacturing delays) or October/November release?

Ah, I thought it was just investors. Well, if that's the case, it makes me wonder if Sony will actually show them the console itself, or just specs, pricing, cover art templates, etc.?

It would only be February 20th, they cant' give away too much information...unless they intend to have a Summer launch?! I could only imagine a Summer launch (July?). Show it off over the next few months. Have playable units at E3. And then announce that it will go on sale sometime in July or August for (hopefully) $499 or less. Considering the rumored specs, I think they could sell it for $499 (with 1 game perhaps?) and the PSEye 2.0 (<-- must be packed-in if they want Move to work/sell).

What do you all think, would a July/August release be better for Sony and the PS4 (assuming no manufacturing delays) or October/November release?

It would be awesome to get all the info throughout the next few months and then have them do an E3 timeframe date for a launch. Probably won't happen but I'd like it.

And yeah with the investors being there along with all the media this is it. It's the PS4 announcement.

Ah, I thought it was just investors. Well, if that's the case, it makes me wonder if Sony will actually show them the console itself, or just specs, pricing, cover art templates, etc.?

It would only be February 20th, they cant' give away too much information...unless they intend to have a Summer launch?! I could only imagine a Summer launch (July?). Show it off over the next few months. Have playable units at E3. And then announce that it will go on sale sometime in July or August for (hopefully) $499 or less. Considering the rumored specs, I think they could sell it for $499 (with 1 game perhaps?) and the PSEye 2.0 (<-- must be packed-in if they want Move to work/sell).

What do you all think, would a July/August release be better for Sony and the PS4 (assuming no manufacturing delays) or October/November release?

$500 might be a hard sell nowadays. Especially when you can build a PC for that much that is as powerful as a PS4 plus you would save money in the long run with Steam. PC gaming in the last few years has really gotten cheap to get into. It's not a $2k investment anymore unless you want the best. Now if it's $500 with move, navigation controller, PSEYE, and a pack in game (a good one, not some crappy pack in), then it might work.

With that said, I think Sony will announce the console in Feb with pics of it. Maybe show a unit but don't show any gameplay footage yet, and give minor things that makes the normal non tech guy get excited. Then at E3 give all the details and if lucky release in Aug/Sept. I think Sony needs to launch this year, because if not it will be another year of cheap PS3 sales and well if you tell someone who got a PS3 for Xmas to buy a PS4, it wont happen.

So the WSJ is confirming that Sony will announce the PS4 on the 20th and that Sony will not ditch the disk drive like previously stated. They also confirmed that it will release later this year. Anxious to see Microsoft's move now.

All the momentum is on Sony's side right now it's ridiculous. I'm usually mad at Sony for being stupid, but lately it's been mostly MS.

Absolutely killer PS3 exclusives (Ni No Kuni, God Of War, Last Of Us) Rumors of the PS4 being more powerful, people complaining very vocally about MS and it's pay for play and pay walls, and now Sony beating MS to the next gen announcement...

Frankly being more of a Sony fan I'm glad but I really hope MS sees how things are going and at least makes things like online play and Netflix free from Gold (and not just for 3 days ). They've almost got to imo if Sony keeps their own model of free to play and such the same.

With Playstation profits nowhere to be found, Sony's debt downgraded to junk status and the company selling off their New York headquarters, that PS4 better be something. Where's FuckedCompany when you need them? Oh, right, that asshole couldn't make any money either.

HYPE! I imagine we'll just get some very vague details but this is awesome regardless. It pretty much confirms it's coming this year, at least in my head. I don't think they'd have an announcement this soon but not release until 2014. People would be pretty upset I think.

Your move MS. Better make it count.

This announcment will not mean the system is coming out this year. If anything, (imo) it will come out in December or early 2014. They want to just give the basics probably to what the system is like and get audience feedback, then adjust accordingly.

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Sony has to act agressively. With the wiiu having a dry spell right now, sony has to get this thing out this year to get a head of the market. Once the exlusives from the wiiu comes out, consumers will have to decide which is more favorable to buy. And sony definitely release earlier than microsoft this time around. that one year gap hit sony bad. Imagining release line up... Last guardian, Agent, Watch Dogs!!! That would be killer!

This announcment will not mean the system is coming out this year. If anything, (imo) it will come out in December or early 2014. They want to just give the basics probably to what the system is like and get audience feedback, then adjust accordingly.

This will be out by November, theres no way they would release it after the holiday season. Even if they couldnt meet initial demand, theres zero chance they would let the new xbox be "the holiday gift" and once again, start playing catch up from the get go.

To be honest, I'm not sure what Sony can do to convince me to buy a new console. As it stands right now, the PS3 meets my needs. I doubt a PS4 will be more powerful than my PC and the gains that can be had on my TV are limited.

Personally, I think this is the challenge that both Sony and Microsoft have in the next generation. Nintendo decided to answer this with their gamepad, and it is unknown how well that ultimately will work out for them. What will the other guys do to convince us we need a new console?

To be honest, I'm not sure what Sony can do to convince me to buy a new console. As it stands right now, the PS3 meets my needs. I doubt a PS4 will be more powerful than my PC and the gains that can be had on my TV are limited.

Personally, I think this is the challenge that both Sony and Microsoft have in the next generation. Nintendo decided to answer this with their gamepad, and it is unknown how well that ultimately will work out for them. What will the other guys do to convince us we need a new console?

Agreed. Better graphics are nice but the big 3 are starting to be victims of their own success. My gaming experience on the PS3 and 360 are more than satisfying and the library is so big I could play 3 years at least without another game release.

You're all way off! They're going to announce the Super Super Slim PS3.

But for real though, I'm convinced that this is the PS4 announcement. With the announcement coming so early in 2013 I believe we will see playable consoles and a launch lineup at E3 and pricing and release date well before holiday 2013. I'm also wondering if they'll have Vita announcements as this event nearly falls on the Vita's launch anniversary. I think Sony took play out of Apples book, they certainly have the industry buzzing.

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