@dgold About a year ago, I properly heard about co-ops, and it kinda blew my mind. I love the idea that you can do commercial transactions, and not just be shareholder based ownership, where all the the profit/surplus goes to the capital owners

@dgold Many people like the NC part of CC licences, but I think, be OK with someone having ads on their website. Perhaps it's not *commercial* usage which people don't like, but *commerical usage where benefits go to capital*.

Maybe if CC had a "Democractic Organisations Only" (DO) clause, that might be cool.

@ebel@dgold The minute we start to add on morality clauses into our code, we run into terrible issues, many of which have been talked about in the past but are things like "You can't be South African and use this code", or "You can't have ads or accept money".

If we go down this road people could say "No Irish", or "No Jews" or "No Gays". Free Software must be free for absolutely everyone.