I am 100% certain that they are going to nerf it before the next expansion, which sucks, but people will be one-shooting the boss sooner or later anyway, I highly doubt that they are going to make it unobtainable (think benediction/anathema) or add some some gear scaling (challenge mode style) later on.

TLDR: Enjoy feeling 'special' for now, it ain't gonna last for long.

I doubt they'll nerf it myself, purely because gearing up makes the fight so much easier already.
I'm someone who doesn't like banging my head against a wall for too long, so I've been gearing up on my warlock before attempting Kanrethad properly, and I managed to get him down tonight after roughly an hour of attempts in 495 gear. I wouldn't say I was going super-crazy on the DPS, but I managed to finish the fight right after the second imp phase. If you have the gear to kill him within just one round of summons (give or take the imp phase - it's practically a buff as Destro anyway!), it's really not that hard a fight with practice.

By the end of the expansion even LFR players like me are probably going to be in 540 gear or more. By that point the boss will likely be dying within one cycle even without squeezing DPS with charge/chaos bolt combos. The fel hunters will probably be one-shottable, and even Kanrethad's chaos bolt should be survivable without cooldowns.

When you take all of that into account, I doubt we'll see any hard nerfs. As the gear level goes up most of the things that make the encounter hard will start to disappear, and nerfing the mechanics on top of that would just reduce it to a trivial level.

But anyway! I felt like I had to post in one of these threads now that I'm part of the green fire club. It felt super cool to pull off something that felt like a real challenge after not having raided since Wrath. I'd love more challenging solo stuff like this!

What's happening is I've seen a lot of people level up a lock alt and "think" (my opinion) they should be granted fire and if it's not achievable with low gear, the boss should get nerfed. I've known a few guildies with this QQ -____-. I can't remember the exact post from blizz within the past 1-2 weeks that stated they weren't gonna nerf it soon due to the fact it was suppose to be cosmetic reward for those who managed to complete.

With obtaining ToT LFR gear and practicing the mechanics, it will make the fight a lot easier to do but don't expect to just ROFLSTOMP with 500ilvl. You have to utilize your warlock skill arsenal. It's not about "omg blizz, wtf I did 300k burst but died to his Chaos Bolt.... NERF IT BLIZZ." There has been videos of people achieving it with 470 and there was one with someone in the 460s.

Grats to those who have gotten their fire though, and those that haven't, keep at it. You will get it eventually.

Technically it is possible, but not for the average warlock. It's better to wait till you have at least 480+ gear imo.

Allrighty thank you, well i rerolled an alt from shaman, they are pretty useles in PvP since cataclysm and i don't want to be stomped around anymore or boosted by my friends. I play a hunter for main btw.

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Originally Posted by Ravon

What's happening is I've seen a lot of people level up a lock alt and "think" (my opinion) they should be granted fire and if it's not achievable with low gear, the boss should get nerfed. I've known a few guildies with this QQ -____-. I can't remember the exact post from blizz within the past 1-2 weeks that stated they weren't gonna nerf it soon due to the fact it was suppose to be cosmetic reward for those who managed to complete.

With obtaining ToT LFR gear and practicing the mechanics, it will make the fight a lot easier to do but don't expect to just ROFLSTOMP with 500ilvl. You have to utilize your warlock skill arsenal. It's not about "omg blizz, wtf I did 300k burst but died to his Chaos Bolt.... NERF IT BLIZZ." There has been videos of people achieving it with 470 and there was one with someone in the 460s.

Grats to those who have gotten their fire though, and those that haven't, keep at it. You will get it eventually.

Well i was always thinking about leveling a lock, with the addition to green fire they pushed me over the edge and i leveled him up. The problem is i purely PvP only. So having to PVE to achieve the green fire is a little lame. Or even to gear up is lame. I think the encounter should NOT be nerved but your char should have stats from ilvl 490 ( granted if you have 491 or up you keep those extra stats ) and then let people do the encounter. Then it is purely over skills and not that you gotte gear first. I think i would get it down easy if i had the gear, but i don't ;p ( Well easy...I think within 1 or 2 hours i would kill him.)

. I think i would get it down easy if i had the gear, but i don't ;p ( Well easy...I think within 1 or 2 hours i would kill him.)

tuurlijk henk

Infraction for minor spam.

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Originally Posted by Staalie

tuurlijk henk

Infraction for minor spam.

Spam? just calling a fellow countryman out on a bluff... not spam.

And let me voice my opinion about something. Both the PVP and the warlock forums have gotten a whole lot less fun since you started modding there. Please don't take your mod role so serious, it makes you look like the dude below... and we all know that didn't end well.

A few tips for those that still have issues (not going to bother mentioning tips from guides that can be found online)

First you can use charge after it comes off cooldown when you countered Cataclysm, this usually means around the time he is summoning adds so it should be enough time to come of cooldown for his next cataclysm.
Second: when fighting the Imps between the boss and the Imps and use your Pit Lords breath attack, didn't pay enough attention but it should hit the Imps
Third: I mark the area's which I will use for various purposes, like where I will stand or where I will place my Pit Lord.
Fourth: Save your chaos bolt for when the boss has the dmg taken debuff and/or when you charge him, don't cap your embers but don't randomly shoot either.
Fifth: I like to place my demonic gate on top of the gate created by the boss, this allowed me to stay in range of the boss.

I defeated the boss just after his 3e waves of Imps (I think) but I had 2 attempts where I ended up with 3 Doomguards because I didn't really use Charge for the extra dmg.

I think I spend a total of 4-6 hours whipping but it is mostly about learning the fight. At the start I had a few wipes because I kept positioning my pitlord wrong and a few wipes because I really didn't place my demonic gate efficiently but mostly is just about remembering to bubble his chaos bolt and not screw up his cataclysm spell.

And let me voice my opinion about something. Both the PVP and the warlock forums have gotten a whole lot less fun since you started modding there. Please don't take your mod role so serious, it makes you look like the dude below... and we all know that didn't end well.

If you have a problem with moderation or want to discuss moderation actions I suggest you send a PM to Sunshine, or even better, use the Contact Form. You can find that at the top right under the button "Contact Us".

So I finished this other day but as he the other NPC comes out to banish him, 3-4 seconds after he died, I dropped dead from the "Curse of Ultimate Doom". I was able to release and run up and click on him and got the green fire. However since I died it didn't give me credit for the quest even though it did give me the green fire. My ticket I sent in got a reply saying they can't give credit because I died... Now I need to figure out if I want to do it again for the quest credit even though I got the green fire.

"Terror, darkness, power? The Forsaken crave not these things; the Forsaken ARE these things."

I was having issues with this the other day, I dont know if its just because im in all PvP gear or what but im not seeming to kill the Imps fast enough. I throw down 3 RoF as he is summoning them, and with the Pit Lord positioned infront of the gateway the breath just isnt finishing them off. Is it best to wait until I get some PvE gear from LFR or what?

I was having issues with this the other day, I dont know if its just because im in all PvP gear or what but im not seeming to kill the Imps fast enough. I throw down 3 RoF as he is summoning them, and with the Pit Lord positioned infront of the gateway the breath just isnt finishing them off. Is it best to wait until I get some PvE gear from LFR or what?

At your gear level 471, you'll have a hard time aoe'ing the imps and killing the felhunters "on time".
My only tips other than get more gear is :

Stand about 10 yards behind the boss (so the imps stack on him) soon as he is finished summoning the imps, use your pit lord to charge him then spam his breath, ROF, FaB Incinerate, With the 100% increased damage you should be able to drop them and charge will be up by the time the boss starts casting cataclysm.

At your gear level 471, you'll have a hard time aoe'ing the imps and killing the felhunters "on time".
My only tips other than get more gear is :

Stand about 10 yards behind the boss (so the imps stack on him) soon as he is finished summoning the imps, use your pit lord to charge him then spam his breath, ROF, FaB Incinerate, With the 100% increased damage you should be able to drop them and charge will be up by the time the boss starts casting cataclysm.

Thanks for the tip, i will have to try that. Been doing some LFR for some more PvE gear and waiting on a restore of some items to see if I can finally down this.

I tried to go guide free, but couldnt. I figured out to enslave the demon, but there was no menu bar for the enslaved demon any of the times I've tried. I keep getting 600k+ chaos bolted to death because I can't seem to interrupt his cast. I'm using the Bartender addon, could that be the problem?

I tried to go guide free, but couldnt. I figured out to enslave the demon, but there was no menu bar for the enslaved demon any of the times I've tried. I keep getting 600k+ chaos bolted to death because I can't seem to interrupt his cast. I'm using the Bartender addon, could that be the problem?

That is a possibility. Make sure you have the pet bar enabled and that you dont have a pet summoned when you enslave.

What's happening is I've seen a lot of people level up a lock alt and "think" (my opinion) they should be granted fire and if it's not achievable with low gear, the boss should get nerfed. I've known a few guildies with this QQ -____-. I can't remember the exact post from blizz within the past 1-2 weeks that stated they weren't gonna nerf it soon due to the fact it was suppose to be cosmetic reward for those who managed to complete.

With obtaining ToT LFR gear and practicing the mechanics, it will make the fight a lot easier to do but don't expect to just ROFLSTOMP with 500ilvl. You have to utilize your warlock skill arsenal. It's not about "omg blizz, wtf I did 300k burst but died to his Chaos Bolt.... NERF IT BLIZZ." There has been videos of people achieving it with 470 and there was one with someone in the 460s.

Grats to those who have gotten their fire though, and those that haven't, keep at it. You will get it eventually.

The trend so far seems to be:

Can't beat Kanrethad nerf
Beat Kanrethad don't nerf

I have green fire but I still think the fight should be toned down. quite the roadblock for something that locks have asked for since forever.

I tried to go guide free, but couldnt. I figured out to enslave the demon, but there was no menu bar for the enslaved demon any of the times I've tried. I keep getting 600k+ chaos bolted to death because I can't seem to interrupt his cast. I'm using the Bartender addon, could that be the problem?

Well the fact that you don't have a pet bar should not have a great impact on your success.

First get some macro's because it will make the fight much easier. A great macro which you can find on this forum is the breath dispell/attack macro that will make sure the Pit lord attack will always hit/dispell you.

And about the chaos bolt, personally I find that their are 2 counters that will always work. First is just use your absorb spells which allows you to survive his attack and second is to make sure you have always the demonic gate debuff on you (this prevents chaos bolt from even casting)

having the correct macro's is almost a must for this fight in my opinion. This fight is overturned (which is fine) and any mistake you make will most likely mean your dead. The less time you spend on moving the easier this fight will be.