Been listening to a lot of the Rolie era of Journey lately and this song has renewed my love for the schon/perry collaboration, with Rolie, Smith, and Valory, how this this did not become a charted single is beyond me. Even better live.

scarab wrote:Been listening to a lot of the Rolie era of Journey lately and this song has renewed my love for the schon/perry collaboration, with Rolie, Smith, and Valory, how this this did not become a charted single is beyond me. Even better live.

scarab wrote:Been listening to a lot of the Rolie era of Journey lately and this song has renewed my love for the schon/perry collaboration, with Rolie, Smith, and Valory, how this this did not become a charted single is beyond me. Even better live.

Very few bigger fans than me for the Rolie era, more so the very beginning, but I digress. As for Too Late, maybe because it's like 2 minutes long? Great tune, but very short in terms of a single, but still a great song.

MysteryMountain wrote:Very few bigger fans than me for the Rolie era, more so the very beginning, but I digress. As for Too Late, maybe because it's like 2 minutes long? Great tune, but very short in terms of a single, but still a great song.

Loved "Too Late". A lot of good songs back in that area. Natural Thing, Little Girl, Lights, Anyway You Want It, etc....

On a side note, I absolutely love The Party's Over (Hopelessly In Love) from Captured. Is this the first song with Cain in the band, or did Rolie play on this tune? I still associate it with the Rolie era even though it may not have necessarily been him on the song playing.

Greg wrote:Loved "Too Late". A lot of good songs back in that area. Natural Thing, Little Girl, Lights, Anyway You Want It, etc....

On a side note, I absolutely love The Party's Over (Hopelessly In Love) from Captured. Is this the first song with Cain in the band, or did Rolie play on this tune? I still associate it with the Rolie era even though it may not have necessarily been him on the song playing.

Gregg is named in the credits for this song, so he was still around when it came out.

Stevie "Keys"Roseman is listed as an additional musician for this song, on acoustic piano and keyboards.

The injury that we do to a man must be such that we need not fear his vengeance. Steve Perry

Greg wrote:Loved "Too Late". A lot of good songs back in that area. Natural Thing, Little Girl, Lights, Anyway You Want It, etc....

On a side note, I absolutely love The Party's Over (Hopelessly In Love) from Captured. Is this the first song with Cain in the band, or did Rolie play on this tune? I still associate it with the Rolie era even though it may not have necessarily been him on the song playing.

Gregg is named in the credits for this song, so he was still around when it came out.

On the Party's Over? I don't think so. Perry as sole writer. Roseman on keyboards. I read it was written during soundchecks, so I Imagine Rolie was involved somehow. But I don't think in the recording of it. Nor was it Cain. I think it was right there in between. Neal recently said it was Perry on bass as well, not Ross I believe.

In between the departure of original keyboardist Gregg Rolie from Santana and the arrival of Jonathan Cain from The Babys he was invited to play keyboards on the track "The Party's Over (Hopelessly In Love)" on the 1981 live Journey release Captured.[1] This same track appears on the package set Time³ and the 2001 compilation The Essential Journey.

Greg wrote:Loved "Too Late". A lot of good songs back in that area. Natural Thing, Little Girl, Lights, Anyway You Want It, etc....

On a side note, I absolutely love The Party's Over (Hopelessly In Love) from Captured. Is this the first song with Cain in the band, or did Rolie play on this tune? I still associate it with the Rolie era even though it may not have necessarily been him on the song playing.

Gregg is named in the credits for this song, so he was still around when it came out.

On the Party's Over? I don't think so. Perry as sole writer. Roseman on keyboards. I read it was written during soundchecks, so I Imagine Rolie was involved somehow. But I don't think in the recording of it. Nor was it Cain. I think it was right there in between. Neal recently said it was Perry on bass as well, not Ross I believe.

I meant Rollie was named as being with the band, not that he helped write the song. Sorry for the misunderstanding

The injury that we do to a man must be such that we need not fear his vengeance. Steve Perry

Greg wrote:Loved "Too Late". A lot of good songs back in that area. Natural Thing, Little Girl, Lights, Anyway You Want It, etc....

On a side note, I absolutely love The Party's Over (Hopelessly In Love) from Captured. Is this the first song with Cain in the band, or did Rolie play on this tune? I still associate it with the Rolie era even though it may not have necessarily been him on the song playing.

Gregg is named in the credits for this song, so he was still around when it came out.

On the Party's Over? I don't think so. Perry as sole writer. Roseman on keyboards. I read it was written during soundchecks, so I Imagine Rolie was involved somehow. But I don't think in the recording of it. Nor was it Cain. I think it was right there in between. Neal recently said it was Perry on bass as well, not Ross I believe.

In between the departure of original keyboardist Gregg Rolie from Santana and the arrival of Jonathan Cain from The Babys he was invited to play keyboards on the track "The Party's Over (Hopelessly In Love)" on the 1981 live Journey release Captured.[1] This same track appears on the package set Time³ and the 2001 compilation The Essential Journey.

Precisely...Neal responded in a tweet that Perry wrote it via bass. I assumed Ross recorded it in the studio but it could have been Perry since he does play bass. Maybe someone can ask him again just to clarify?

Thanks guys! I probably knew this since I had owned the Times 3 boxset. I was just thinking about Rolie era music, and remembered that this song sounded more closely related to something you'd hear from the Cain era. It's an awesome song and one of my favorites from early Journey.

MysteryMountain wrote:Very few bigger fans than me for the Rolie era, more so the very beginning, but I digress. As for Too Late, maybe because it's like 2 minutes long? Great tune, but very short in terms of a single, but still a great song.

MysteryMountain wrote:Very few bigger fans than me for the Rolie era, more so the very beginning, but I digress. As for Too Late, maybe because it's like 2 minutes long? Great tune, but very short in terms of a single, but still a great song.