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Absolutely hate this scheme. Oline looks lost n confused. Dmac is not a cutback runner with great vision. Just terrible all around. Dennis allen f'd up big time choosing this clown.

To be fair the execution will get better with in time, very rarely does a team execute a new system with new players perfectly from day 1. Especially a system like the ZBS. Also I believe McFadden can be succesful but so can alot of cheaper backs.

It's not like Dennis Allen had a bunch of up and coming prospects to choose from. He was the last HC hired if im not mistaken leaving him with a dried up pool.

I would give Knapp another year, I am a fan of the ZBS.

But Tarver has this D playing like hot crap, He is just as bad as Bresnehan, we need a real DC next year.

Wrong. They need defensive talent. TALENT.

+1

Even a creative DC is going to have issues when he doesnt have a single pass rusher and his starting CBs are Pat Lee, and a guy who was a FS up until 2 weeks ago.

Absolutely hate this scheme. Oline looks lost n confused. Dmac is not a cutback runner with great vision. Just terrible all around. Dennis allen f'd up big time choosing this clown.

To be fair the execution will get better with in time, very rarely does a team execute a new system with new players perfectly from day 1. Especially a system like the ZBS. Also I believe McFadden can be succesful but so can alot of cheaper backs.

It's not like Dennis Allen had a bunch of up and coming prospects to choose from. He was the last HC hired if im not mistaken leaving him with a dried up pool.

I would give Knapp another year, I am a fan of the ZBS.

But Tarver has this D playing like hot crap, He is just as bad as Bresnehan, we need a real DC next year.

We still had Saunders on the staff...

This will probably never make sense to me. Saunders was a well-established OC in this league. He led a very impessive offense in KC for a few years, he was familiar with our players, our staff, and the offense that most of our players had succeeded in the year prior. Did Allen think its easier for players to succeed in a zone scheme? With McFadden healthy we would hav ebeen a top-3 rushing team this year had we left the same basic offensive scheme in tact.

Pretty sure at one point Allen said he wanted to focus on running the ball- no suprise being a defensive coach. Funny how thats the part of our offense that has taken the biggest step backwards. For some reason Knapp has a reputation as being an OC who puts good running teams on the field. I dont think hes really ever done that, aside from maybe in ATL with Vick and Dunn. Knapp hasnt ever really been impressive as an OC, yet Saunders led some of the best offenses I've seen in the last decade. Just doesnt make sense.

Allen and Reggie probably felt it was easier to find running backs who could succeed in a ZBS. Once McFadden gets injured then replacing him is nearly impossible in a PBS.

DA wanted RB oriented offensive coordinator because he thought he could play small ball by shortening the game and limiting defense exposure. DA wanted ZBS because he always felt it was difficult to coach against._________________

Nodisrespect wrote:

(on building inside out) teams without highly draft DT's make the playoffs and win the superbowl regularly.

Bonez wrote:

Teams that win Superbowls and make the playoffs aren't picking in the Top 5, clearly

I've been looking at the game tapes and focusing on the OL the last few days. All that I'm seeing is an OL that is completely scrambled. There is no unity. All you see is our guys going backwards. They are simply being physically abused almost each & every play. The fact that Palmer is holding his own & McFadden gets passed the line of scrimmage is remarkable.

Poor execution by the players is one thing, but it's evident this staff has not employed this scheme in correctly. You have to fit what the players do, not what you want to do as a coach. At least that's how I see it.

Side note: How disappointing has Brisiel been? For a guy who was supposedly solid in the ZBS scheme in Houston to come here & arguably be the worst player on the OL is sad to see.

Maybe if we're going to run the ZBS we need to invest in the top ZBS OL coaches around?

I've been looking at the game tapes and focusing on the OL the last few days. All that I'm seeing is an OL that is completely scrambled. There is no unity. All you see is our guys going backwards. They are simply being physically abused almost each & every play. The fact that Palmer is holding his own & McFadden gets passed the line of scrimmage is remarkable.

Poor execution by the players is one thing, but it's evident this staff has not employed this scheme in correctly. You have to fit what the players do, not what you want to do as a coach. At least that's how I see it.

Side note: How disappointing has Brisiel been? For a guy who was supposedly solid in the ZBS scheme in Houston to come here & arguably be the worst player on the OL is sad to see.

Maybe if we're going to run the ZBS we need to invest in the top ZBS OL coaches around?

Please consider that maybe those guys were just not available when Allen was made HC.
It takes time to build a staff and roster the way you want it in the NFL.