If a chatroom shows up, it will be for Paid members only and it will be locally hosted and only accessible from the website ... IRC is the WORST place to have a chatroom, far too easy to take the channel over. I have a chat program that I use on my other social network sites and it works perfectly!

That's a given, which is a strong con of having one for the Church of Satan, seeing as Christians throw enough flak at it as is.

Personally, I'm against having one, but if there's going to be one, it's good to weigh your options. I wasn't aware until reading his reply here that he already had a secure solution that operates as he desires, so that pretty much settles that.

All Subscription users will get full access to all features on both the Undercroft and LttD and full access to all new features with no additional charge. Also, you will be locked in on the subscription price so if it were to "raise" for some reason in the future, you will not have to worry about it!

Thank you!

Magister,

I plan to pay the lifetime Membership Fee, I greatly enjoy the Company, Conversation, Topics, and of course the high-level of intellect from like-minded people. I'm not currently a CoS member, that may change in the immediate future, it may not. I guess what I really want to know is; does "full access" to LTTD mean that I will be able to interact in the Forums that I currently do not have access to? Either way, I'm still in, it would be a privelage though, to be able to play in the Basement.

_________________________
"Jealousy is an emotion often found in individuals whose estimation of their own worth exceeds their achievements."- from "The Satanic Scriptures" by Peter H. Gilmore

I am glad to read that instant messaging (IM) and chat rooms may be part of Undercroft in the future. One of the options I enjoyed about Undercroft was being able to search for users based on a number of search criteria, e.g. location, sexual orientation, relationship status, or other interests; it allowed me to make contact with CoS members of similar interests I may never have known about through the forums of LttD alone.

A concern was raised about shit disturbers if a real-time communication option like IM and chat rooms were initiated. The ability to ignore shit disturbers may be an easy solution. One feature that may enhance the shit disturber filtering process is being able to discern who is a CoS member on Undercroft and who is not; a feature that I do not remember being available previously. An option to prevent IM's from all non-members would be a good start. The IM feature would allow the opportunity to build new friendships with CoS members and strengthen current ones more efficiently.

Well I guess I need to explain the details of this a little more clearly, as I do not believe I defined this yet.

"Full Access" means two things actually. First, if you are NOT a CoS Member but are a subscriber, Full Access means you will be able to see all the forums you see now plus the new forums I am creating for Non-CoS Members. All non-subscribers will see a very limited amount of forums.

If you are a CoS Member and a subscriber, you will have access to all the subscriber forums plus the CoS Member forums. If you are a CoS Member but not a subscriber, you will have the same access a Non-subscriber has.

The undercroft is a little different.... Subscribers will get full access to the undercroft and all its features, currently there will be no difference in features between Non-CoS Members and CoS Members who are subscribers (except a Badge on their profile). There will however be a huge difference between non-subscribers and subscribers when it comes to features on the undercroft but that is all explained on the undercroft when I open it tonight.

Simply, yes. Though I sincerely doubt it will weed out TOO much of the riff-raff, if they are going to come in and take, it should be better off that they leave a gift behind them on their way out the door.

Also, as Magister Nemo said, the worst things in life are free. I knew a guy who accepted a half eaten box of pizza from a pizzeria downtown. He was violently ill and hospitalized. That was free, and it sucked.

I have payed for things in the past that I wasn't happy about, but hey, I have had an extended trial period of over a year here, and like what I see. It's only right that this place tears a couple of bills out of my shriveled, twisted, over-used typing claw.