Doc NS, frostbite

So i bought myself a pair of dalbello rampages last year and was so stoked on them, most comfortable pair of boots id ever ridden. However, due to poor fitting, once the liner packed out at the end of the year they were too big. I lost both my big toe nails at the end of last year, already have purple toenails this year that i had to heat the paper clip to burn a hole and drain the blood. Of course, as the boots are too big, my feet have been freezing. I now came home from vail today to find the tip of one of my big toes purple and totally numb. Its not that big an area of the toe, but definitely frost bite. I just soaked my foot in hot water but don't know the chances of ever feeling that part of my toe again and whats going to happen now. Anyone had this problem before and got some advice? Should i go see the doc? Thanks for any help.

yeah dude hit up a doctor, and you probably need different boots if they're doing that.

thread jack question-

is it true what you said that you can permanent lose feeling if you get frostbite? cause i had new boots and a REALLY cold trip to quebec a few weeks ago, and since then i haven't really been able to feel the tips of my toes (like when i pinch them.) it doesn't hurt or anything so its not a big deal, but does anyone else have that? is it permanent?

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Good advice, i was more just wondering who else has had it and what happened for em

And i know i neeed new boots, im dying for a pair of full tilts for my narrow skinny low volume feet but i got no cash for em right now, im hoping to talk my parents into givin me a loan for a pair to pay off in the summer when i have a job again but im not too sure about it

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not true, what you don't want to do is rewarm if there is a chance that it will freeze again, the thaw freeze is really harmful. And you don't want to re-warm the area slowly, the best thing is to rewarm quickly. and doctors do submerge in water when they treat it. As far as personal treatment tho, it depends on how serious it is.

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naw dude ive had frostbite a few times, and the doctors said if you put it in hot water that it can shock the nerves so bad that you can permanently damage them easier, its better to put it in cool water. also your feeling can come back after a few hours but after that im not too sure good luck though

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to my knowledge dalbello rampages should come with intuition (sp?) liners. these are special liners that if you heat them up they expand and get soft you jam them into your shell and jam your foot in there and leave them there until the liner is no longer warm and the liner will be molded to your foot perfectly... you can reheat and mold them up to around 8 times so you shouldnt have a reason to get new boots.... make sure to wear a toe cap under your socks to give your toes room to move and so they dont get permenantly molded in there.. good luck with the frostbite.

"When you first notice signs of frostbite, come out of the cold immediately and rewarm the affected area as rapidly as possible.
Do not rub the skin in an effort to get blood flowing back to the area. This causes friction and will destroy the already damaged skin and underlying tissue, as well as increase the risk of infection.

To thaw frostbitten skin, immerse the affected part in a bath kept at a constant temperature of 104 to 105 degrees F for an hour or more. This will cause the blood vessels to dilate and circulation to return to the area.

Rapid rewarming is an intensely painful procedure. Take two ibuprofen, aspirin, or acetaminophen to dull the pain.

Do not smoke or chew tobacco. Nicotine constricts the blood vessels, reduces blood flow to chilled areas, and delays the healing process. If you do not have access to warm water, stick the frozen body part under an armpit or between the thighs.

When the skin has thawed and rewarming is complete, cover the damaged skin with bandages and warm clothing. Contact your doctor or go to an emergency room.

If there is any chance of refreezing a thawed body part, do not rewarm it in the first place. Freezing, rewarming and freezing the skin again causes much more tissue damage than being frozen once. As it rethaws, the skin turns red, swelling develops, and the area becomes quite painful. Dark blisters appear on the skin and continue to form over the ensuing week(s) as new skin develops."

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"I resigned from work fifty years ago! And what did I do besides read and write? Climb mountains, ski and make love to a wonderful woman..."

Alright i didn't want to go to the doc, and looking back it was kinda pointless, but everyone was tellin me to so i did and heres what he had to say. I just about everything they would have wanted me to, it was a minor case as it was just the top of my big toe that went purple and lost feeling. You don't want to put it in hot water as that can harm the nerves but u do want to soak it in warm water. He told me to do this on a regular basis for a little while and that that should increase blood flow so i should get feeling back in a few weeks.

2 year bump, very similar situation happened to me, no need to make my own thread with more questions.

It was -17 C at whistler yesterday, and I didn't realize I had my boots too tight and had cut off circulation until too late. Toes went numb within the first hour, didn't thaw until about an hour after I finished skiing (frozen for like 6-7 hours?). Right now, I still can't feel my little toe or the tip of my big toe, and my big toe has a black/blue area where the feeling is completely gone still. The rest of my toes are kinda tingly still. They're pretty swollen as well. The skin isn't white or stiff though. Sound like frostbite? Or just some mild nerve damage that should come back?

And I know, I should see a doc. But as skiers, I'm sure this has happened to quite a few of you, and nothing is better than firsthand experience. Good to know what kind of questions to ask the doc as well.

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Nov 22 2010 12:37PM

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