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“Today, we face incredibly well-funded gangs of fundamentalist Christian monsters who terrorize their fellow Americans by forcing their weaponized and twisted version of Christianity upon their helpless subordinates in our nation’s armed forces.”

Those words were recently written by Mikey Weinstein, founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF), in a column he wrote for the Huffington Post. Weinstein will be a consultant to the Pentagon to develop new policies on religious tolerance, including a policy for court-martialing military chaplains who share the Christian Gospel during spiritual counseling of American troops.

Weinstein decries what he calls the “virulent religious oppression” perpetrated by conservative Christians, whom he refers to as “monstrosities” and “pitiable unconstitutional carpetbaggers,” comparing them to “bigots” in the Deep South during the civil rights era.

He cites Dr. James Dobson—the famous Christian founder of Focus on the Family—as “illustrating the extremist, militant nature of these virulently homophobic organizations’ rhetorically-charged propaganda.” Regarding those who teach orthodox Christian beliefs from the Bible, Weinstein concludes, “Let’s call these ignoble actions what they are: the senseless and cowardly squallings of human monsters.”

Weinstein then endorses the ultra-left Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), who publishes a list of “hate groups.” Alongside truly deplorable organizations like the KKK, the SPLC’s list includes a host of traditional Christian organizations (for their support of traditional marriage) and Tea Party organizations (for supporting limited government). Weinstein says SPLC correctly labels them all as “hate groups.”

Floyd Lee Corkins—the first person ever convicted of domestic terrorism in federal court under the laws of Washington, D.C.—told the FBI that he chose his intended shooting spree targets from the SPLC website's map. Corkins was arrested at the offices of the Family Research Council (FRC) after shooting a security guard in August 2012. His court documents state that Corkins intended to kill as many people as possible.

Weinstein also supports Lt. Col. Jack Rich, the Army officer who wrote to subordinate officers that soldiers who hold traditional Christian beliefs agreeing with organizations on SPLC’s “hate group” list are incompatible with “Army values" and should be carefully watched and excluded from military service.

According to Weinstein, “We should as a nation effusively applaud Lt. Col. Rich.” He adds that the nation should “venture further” than Rich’s recommendations, saying, “We MUST vigorously support the continuing efforts to expose pathologically anti-gay, Islamaphobic, and rabidly intolerant agitators for what they are: die-hard enemies of the United States Constitution. Monsters, one and all. To do anything less would be to roll out a red carpet to those who would usher in a blood-drenched, draconian era of persecutions, nationalistic militarism, and superstitious theocracy.”

Many media outlets are silent on this disturbing new alliance between fanatical secularists and leaders in the Pentagon appointed by President Barack Obama and Secretary Chuck Hagel, under which the U.S. military would officially consult with someone with such foaming-at-the-mouth passionate hostility toward traditional Christians, including Evangelicals and devout Catholics. The military—America’s most heroic and noble institution—includes countless people of faith, and this represents a radical departure from the U.S. military’s warm embrace of people of faith in its ranks.

Yet the little coverage this story is getting is positive, such as this Washington Post column that somehow manages not to carry any of these frightening quotes from Weinstein and instead actually endorses the Pentagon’s meeting with him. Sally Quinn’s Post column also approvingly quotes MRFF Advisory Board member Larry Wilkerson as saying, “Sexual assault and proselytizing, according to Wilkerson, ‘are absolutely destructive of the bonds that keep soldiers together.’”

Did you get that? They say having someone share the Christian gospel with you is akin to being raped. Weinstein makes sure there are no doubts, being quoted by the Post as adding, “This is a national security threat. What is happening [aside from sexual assault] is spiritual rape. And what the Pentagon needs is to understand is that it is sedition and treason. It should be punished.”

Is the military allowing Scientology to proselytize? Because next to Islam, there isn't a religious group more physically, financially, emotionally, psychologically and spiritually abusive to it's members than the one Elron founded. I read a book about it recently (Going Clear). Amazing. They hate gays, too, that's why they find wives for their celebrity gay members who are secretly gay (and Cruise is not the famous Scientology actor that the author hints at as having a secret gay past, the sweathog is).

Is the military allowing Scientology to proselytize? Because next to Islam, there isn't a religious group more physically, financially, emotionally, psychologically and spiritually abusive to it's members than the one Elron founded. I read a book about it recently (Going Clear). Amazing. They hate gays, too, that's why they find wives for their celebrity gay members who are secretly gay (and Cruise is not the famous Scientology actor that the author hints at as having a secret gay past, the sweathog is).

His name was L. (Lafayette) Ron not Elron.

Also, I never heard of a Scientologist stapping on a bomb vest, walking into a crowd of people and blowing himself and them up. I also never heard of a Scientologist flying a passenger airplane into a tall building. I'm not a Scientologist but I find it absolutely amazing how you could try to find some moral equivelancy between Scientology and Islam. The mind of the libtard works in mysterious ways..........................

"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that you won't need it until they try to take it away."---Thomas Jefferson

“We MUST vigorously support the continuing efforts to expose pathologically anti-gay, Islamaphobic, and rabidly intolerant agitators for what they are: die-hard enemies of the United States Constitution......."

So, according to this asshat, if you advocate reducing the size of the federal government and adhering to constitutionally enumerated powers then you are a die-hard enemy of the United States Constitution. As stated in my post above, the mind of the libtard works in mysterious ways...........

The die-hard enemies of the Constitution are all the pinkos from Ivy League schools that want to scrap the constitution and replace it with a socialist/communist utopia including 0bama and his regime.

"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that you won't need it until they try to take it away."---Thomas Jefferson

So this is how it will happen, remove people of faith, then those left have no qualms about taking action against their own countrymen....got it.

I've always thought that the left would try to purge the armed forces of conservatives, using PC doublethink as a means of identifying those of us who aren't with their program. Last year, a Soldier who didn't approve of gay marriage or servicemembers was simply a Soldier. Today, he's a bigoted extremist who can be removed for holding opinions that are are only controversial among liberal Democrats.

It actually makes sense to have your most vocal and litigious objector on the team to craft a policy which his constituency will find acceptable.

There is a problem with religious being "shared" by persons in power to subordinates whether it's a coach evangelizing the local football team or a chaplain with officer designation evangelizing subordinates outside the chapel proper.

Is the military allowing Scientology to proselytize? Because next to Islam, there isn't a religious group more physically, financially, emotionally, psychologically and spiritually abusive to it's members than the one Elron founded. I read a book about it recently (Going Clear). Amazing. They hate gays, too, that's why they find wives for their celebrity gay members who are secretly gay (and Cruise is not the famous Scientology actor that the author hints at as having a secret gay past, the sweathog is).

I've always thought that the left would try to purge the armed forces of conservatives, using PC doublethink as a means of identifying those of us who aren't with their program. Last year, a Soldier who didn't approve of gay marriage or servicemembers was simply a Soldier. Today, he's a bigoted extremist who can be removed for holding opinions that are are only controversial among liberal Democrats.

A soldier who disapproves of marriage or gay service members is still a soldier. If he is vocal or out of line about it, then he's disruptive. The military is full of white people who don't like black people and vice versa. It bugs the shit out of many people to hear Spanish or other foreign accents. Some people don't like Jews. Imagine that. But they are supposed to put that aside for the common good while in uniform (and to some degree out of uniform) aren't they?

Also, I never heard of a Scientologist stapping on a bomb vest, walking into a crowd of people and blowing himself and them up. I also never heard of a Scientologist flying a passenger airplane into a tall building. I'm not a Scientologist but I find it absolutely amazing how you could try to find some moral equivelancy between Scientology and Islam. The mind of the libtard works in mysterious ways..........................

Elron is a joke. I know what his name was. He was an alcoholic writer who beat his wife when he was frustrated.

Maybe Scientology doesn't go to the extremes that Islam does, and doesn't desire to dominate all of society, but they are still pretty dangerous to their own membership. They stalk defectors from their religion and they incarcerate members in their own prison (RPG) who break the rules (i.e. challenge David Miscavagie-where has his wife been for the past few years?). Maybe it's more comparable to the People's Temple than to Islam, but it is still a spiritual cult that spiritually, financially and emotionally abuses it's members for the benefit of the leadership.