The (compound) noun of the prepositional object after the prepostion lon can in some cases be placed before la with nearly the same meaning. This only applies to location and time specifications and if the sentence contains only one predicate phrase with only one prepositional object.

The following sentence has two predicate phrases, each with a prepositional object with the preposition lon. None of the prepositional objects can be moved to before the separator la without changing the statement. The respective predicate phrase would be torn.

ona li pali, lon tomo pali li moku, lon tomo moku. :: He works in the office and eats in the canteen.

If the predicate is identical for all predicate phrases, prepositional objects with lon can be moved before la.

The other way around it is not possible to move all possible la phrases after the preposition lon. For example, a conditional phrase before la can consist of a complete sentence with a subject and predicate(s). However, you cannot use a complete sentence as a prepositional object. In the following examples, using conditional phrases as prepositional objects with the preposition lon would be confusing.

The (compound) noun of the indirect object after the intransitive verb lon can in some cases be placed before la with nearly the same meaning.

mi lon tenpo ni. :: I exist now.tenpo ni la mi lon. :: Now I exist.

The following sentence has two predicate phrases, each with the intransitive verb lon. Since the predicate (lon) is the same for both predicate phrases, the indirect objects can be moved before la.

ona li lon tenpo ni li lon tomo ni. :: He's here during this time and in this house.tenpo ni la ona li lon tomo ni. :: At this time he's in the house .tenpo ni la tomo ni la ona li lon. :: At this time and in this house he is.

The other way around it is not possible to move all possible la phrases after the intransitive verb lon. For example, a conditional phrase before la can consist of a complete sentence with a subject and predicate(s). However, you cannot use a complete sentence as an indirect object.

jan_Lope wrote:On which page in pu is it written that you can start la-phrases (conditional-phrases) with a preposition?

Page 52.

Sorry, but there is no indication in pu that a preposition can be at the beginning of a la-phrase. Please do better research!

"tan" is a noun here:tan seme la soweli wawa pimeja li moku e ona?

Lope is quoting me out of context here in order to make his point, which sure proves what a good researcher he is. Besides, he totally ignored that Sonja has already explained the issue and that therefore there is no need to keep misreading la-phrases like he does, plus misinforming his audience about what is and is not official Toki Pona.

janTepanNetaPelin wrote:Besides, he totally ignored that Sonja has already explained the issue and that therefore there is no need to keep misreading la-phrases like he does, plus misinforming his audience about what is and is not official Toki Pona.

toki!

My lessons are based on the lessons of jan Pije and the book of Sonja (first English 2014). In both sources there is nothing about prepositions at the beginning of a la-phrase.

Has Sonja published a new edition of her book? Or has she published publicly available corrections to this book?Or were these changes only discussed in a closed discussion group?

When am I supposed to have misinformed someone about an official and an unofficial Toki Pona?

pona!jan Lopehttps://jan-lope.github.io(Lessons and the Toki Pona Parser - A tool for spelling, grammar check and ambiguity check of Toki Pona)

On my foe list are the sockpuppets janKipo and janSilipu because of permanent spamming.