I am glad to NOT HAVE A JOB! I only have to scrounnge up enough gas to get to town 24 miles away to LOOK FOR A JOB.

ever wanderd how use guys out of work are paying for the gas?

We don't we become forced hermits!!!!!!!!!

SLowcowboy.

Plans. there was supposed to be plans to be followed when I built this thing. Opps! AH, gee, tum,tee tum. I think I forgot about the plans 2 years ago. ------Tow vehicles, 1995 ford explore, 1994 ford ranger, 1993 ford F-150, 2009 4x9 Off road teardrop, on harbor freight greatly modified frame.

I had a teacher tell me back in the 60's that a fellow is better off living close to work and that he would never live further than he could walk or ride a bike. Since he was an old hot rodder, I don't believe he ever walked or rode a bike but his advice was sound then and still is.

I can and do bicycle to work (12 miles round trip) and am able to ride to most stores and such. I save my gas money for my much needed trips. Those trips are my break from routine and are my break from routine. And yes, I usually bring the bikes along when I travel as well. Seeing new sights is much easier from a bicycle seat at a slower pace.
Mikey

When I was hired by my present employer, which is 35 miles from my house, I left a job that was 3 miles from my house. The deal I cut was that they pay my gas. They estimated 70 miles per day, at 20 miles per gallon, and gave me a gallon allowance. I went and bought a car that gets 30 miles per gallon, so in the last 5 years I have personally paid for one tank of gas when I went to Delaware last year. I'll have to pay for the gas to Indiana this year too, it will exceed my allowance.

With the current price of gas, I'm thinking I lucked out with the deal I made.

I gave up a life time of a job in the saddle due to this problem in 2006 when gas went above 2 bucks.

my job for the last 10 years then was 82 miles one way from my house. on real cowboy wages I lost half my wages to gas to work.

I pretty much gave up the next job driving truck for a mom and pop oil company as my new job was 33 to 60 miles from home one way and gas was in 08 above 3 dollars a gallon.

now in 2011 there is no job I work at home on a ranch with the cows I still own and I only cummute out of nessaty. other than that I don't go to town. gas is almost 4 dollars a gallon income is almost non existante.

I am kinda thinking that traveling 82 miles one way to work everyday for half my wages was not to bad at 2.65 a gallon that was killing me then.

its funny how this world can change at times. Slow.

Plans. there was supposed to be plans to be followed when I built this thing. Opps! AH, gee, tum,tee tum. I think I forgot about the plans 2 years ago. ------Tow vehicles, 1995 ford explore, 1994 ford ranger, 1993 ford F-150, 2009 4x9 Off road teardrop, on harbor freight greatly modified frame.

Hey Slowcowboy, higher gas prices will be paid by everyone you do work for, they know suff will cost more and they expect it I'd say, shouldn't take much of a sales pitch to say, "well, because of these gas prices I'll have to have $XX.00 more to make the same thing I was".....what are they going to do, let the hay rot? Don't worry about it, what goes around comes around!

I voted to grin and bear it. Since I'm retired I don't go to work. My bike takes premium, the 1600 gets about 22mpg I guess, depends on how I ride it, my dual sport bike gets about 50mpg, if I stay under 70. But I'm also not going to ride in the rain or when it's really hot or when it gets too cold! Doesn't leave much riding time does it?

Yep, prices are manipulated along with demand. Three years from now we'll be talking about $6 a gallon for gas.

well they don't! NO ONE FIGURES OUT HOW MUCH THE DESILE IS GOING TO COST BEFORE YOU HAY!

if you are rich enough you fill the tank at home in january. if your not you look at your pocket book in july and say where can I squeeze money out of a turnip to get enough desile in your tank brought out from town so you can go to putting hay up

you cuss the president as you fill up your tractor at the stand tank at the house. you cuss him as you pay the bill. you cuss him as you talk to your fuel delivery man about the current gas prices.

you talk politics every time the fuel man is out. the fuel man shackes his head you shake yours.

and all you do figure up is how much your pouring down that tractor every day and how to cut the amount down.

if your leasing you figure if your coming out ahead on renting that guys hay ground.

if your haying for hire you figure out how your going to explain to your customers your jacking up your prices to cover the cost.

and then you expect a court case later to get paid for your use of your tractor and the haying job you did for your customers as they run off on the bill and the money they owe you.

the guy your working for stacking hay on his truck tells you he is not making a thing hauling hay as he descibes how much you cost and then his fuel bill on the truck and what he makes per load.

the thing is we dont' figure in farm world its going to take this much in the spring to make what I made last year.

it simply does't happen.

the photo of a casino comes to mind when I think of farming and ranching.

we just dread the fuel bill

and we know its a gamble on our crop and calf crop when we market it all to wheter we will get enough out of it to cover our butts.

any more a lot of us are not planning on making a profit in the ranching farming world.

we are planning on surival and to pay our bills for the year.

on a drought year like this year the over head is so great making a profit is inmpossible even for the big boys.

and even if you know what the fuel will cost and you dont' as the prices change all the time.

the crop is effected by mother nature as is your cow calf crop and when you sell a cow or a calf its a gamble in the local sale barn to know what you will get.

there is no way to guartee a calf price when you sale.

so figuring out how much fuel will cost to know if your making a profit.

is like figure out ahead of time if it will rain.

the sad thing is the trend this year has been to pretty much kill the country!!!!!!!!!!!!!

slow

Plans. there was supposed to be plans to be followed when I built this thing. Opps! AH, gee, tum,tee tum. I think I forgot about the plans 2 years ago. ------Tow vehicles, 1995 ford explore, 1994 ford ranger, 1993 ford F-150, 2009 4x9 Off road teardrop, on harbor freight greatly modified frame.

let you in on a little secret the fuel bill at the house was running at 1400 a month last january for 300 gallons of gas and 150 of desil.

so if your figured in your cost for the year at 1400 to cover your farming ranching operation

you lost your butt hole!!!!!!!!!!!!!

as the fuel bill is running now last month more like 1600 to 1700 a month for the same amount of gas and desile.

and needless to say I am mooching most of the gas at the stank tank as I don't have the means latley to buy any from town for my personal use.

slow

don't tell my dad that either.

Plans. there was supposed to be plans to be followed when I built this thing. Opps! AH, gee, tum,tee tum. I think I forgot about the plans 2 years ago. ------Tow vehicles, 1995 ford explore, 1994 ford ranger, 1993 ford F-150, 2009 4x9 Off road teardrop, on harbor freight greatly modified frame.

Plans. there was supposed to be plans to be followed when I built this thing. Opps! AH, gee, tum,tee tum. I think I forgot about the plans 2 years ago. ------Tow vehicles, 1995 ford explore, 1994 ford ranger, 1993 ford F-150, 2009 4x9 Off road teardrop, on harbor freight greatly modified frame.

Ford Festiva. 41mpg. Gas is currently $2.88 in my area due to the explosion of Quik Trips. I work 5 miles away, and go to school 2 miles away. That's 38 miles a week, and 2.5 months per fill-up. I feel blessed to get this kind of fuel mileage. At $5/gal, I'll still afford to continue driving, but to be entirely honest, I'll probably ride my bike on the good days.

It's food that kills us. My wife and I pay almost $300/wk for food. It makes me want to cry when I see the prices. I work hard, and my wife works hard. At $1000/wk, we're still in the negatives by the time the necessities are paid for.

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I have a round trip of 50 miles per day. A few years back we look at getting a motorcycle and after comping up with all of the extra costs we figured that it would take about 5 years to recover the cost from the gas savings. I just about had my wife talked into it anyway and then she started remembering how I used to ride when I was a teen and flatly said no. (I guess that is the chance you take for spending most of your life with someone lol) In my job I do not get any raises nor will I receive one in the foreseeable future. I don't make much, just about $10.00 an hour. So when the raised minimum wages a few years ago, the value of the money I earn went down quite a bit. My wife can't work because we have a special needs son that needs nearly constant attention. I work in security and a few years ago a disgruntled employee came to work and bad stuff happened and I ended up getting my back messed up pretty bad. The doctors keep on saying that I need to be put on disability, however other then a few added aches and pains, I do not feel like I am disabled and will continue to work for as long as I can. On the side I write books, do woodworking, lawn work (If I can still do that stuff with no problem then I am not disabled) to earn extra money. We do what we can to save any money that we can. We do realize that money does not buy happiness and we are proof of that. While everything gets more expensive, we always manage to get by. We get everything that we need and save up to get what we want. I grew up in an abusive family and spent most of my childhood living on the streets, and my wife grew up in Germany just a few blocks from the Berlin Wall. So we both know from experience that regardless of how bad things can be, there is always someone else that has it a lot worse then us. So we spend a great deal of time helping out those less fortunate then us, even though we struggle ourselves. However we are happy with our lives, and we are thankful the we live in American and we live in the greatest state in the union. Everywhere we look we see new oil wells being drilled by the dozens. As I write this I can see 7 new oil wells being drilled and I'm just a few miles from down town Oklahoma City. So perhaps the future does not look so gloomy after all.

maybee wood gasifcation or electric! maybee burn cow pattys to make the gas to drive to work in a wood gasification car conversion?

who knows.

right now getting work is walk out of the house to the corral for me.

slow

Plans. there was supposed to be plans to be followed when I built this thing. Opps! AH, gee, tum,tee tum. I think I forgot about the plans 2 years ago. ------Tow vehicles, 1995 ford explore, 1994 ford ranger, 1993 ford F-150, 2009 4x9 Off road teardrop, on harbor freight greatly modified frame.

A couple of years ago, when everyone was up in arms about $4.00 gas, I ran a quick guestimation of the cost to fuel my Z71 Silverado vs. buying something more efficient. I came to the conclusion that with my (then) eight mile commute that I would need to double my fuel economy AND gas would have to excede $5.00 just to break even on the payment I would have to take on. About six months later My employer consolidated my job to a location 30 miles from home. While I got a raise, the truck would have burned more than the raise for the drive. Suddenly, it made more sense to change vehicles. You have to take much more than just the cost of fuel into consideration before making the decision. To double in town milage would have required a very expensive newer car (likely a hybrid). Doubling the highway milage was much easier to accomplish.