I just want to bring this to everyone's attention. Red bull needs to be boycotted for a very unfair business practice they have been utilizing in order to dominate the energy drink market. Red Bull has a lot of money, and they can use their money to start unecessary lawsuits against club owners of every size who won't carry red bull. Their lawsuits claim that a given place of business uses red bull's name to sell drinks, due to their brand name dominance, but they actually sell a cheaper energy drink without informing the consumer. They deliver their papers over and over, taking club owners to court, and eventually the cost of legal fees outwieghts the right of the club owner to keep a product out of their place of business. They force clubs into buying Red Bull. Until they stop these practices people really need to help and boycott Red Bull and give other companys a fair chance in the energy drink market. Please respond and send emails to the address posted to this account and I can add more detail with any questions you have........and please pass the word!

Charles Wentworth Kittredge

04-14-2003, 05:39 PM

Why not just boycott all energy drinks. They don't do anything useful for society, so why drink them?

Fixx

04-15-2003, 12:30 PM

What you have failed to recognize as much as you dislike Red Bull they have made themselves into a call drink. In other words, when you go to the bar and order a Red Bull-Vodka you are ordering an energy drink with vodka. Now then, if you go to the bar and order a rum and coke then you get whatever rum is the house rum and typically coke which is in the gun for the soda.

Like it or not, Red Bull has been EXTREMELY successful in this practice and their point of contention is, if a consumer asks for a Red Bull-Vodka they mean a Red Bull with vodka not KMX-vodka, Rock Star vodka,etc...

Hope it helps.

Later

boycottredbull

04-15-2003, 02:06 PM

The above has a point, but in my experience these lawsuits are not based on what they ask for at the bar, rather whether the bar carries red bull or not. My bartenders and waitress actually waste their time now in a loud club to explain to patrons that we don't have redbull. I have spotter look for these things, and I have not gotten a negative report. They make phony claims of purchases made in clubs to build a case and then they file papers and file papers and file papers until the club owner gives up and makes red bull part of their inventory to avoid a costly ensuing legal battle. No one has the money or time right now to make a Supreme Court Case sighting the likes of Coke, Kleenex, Xerox, and Q-tips. Red Bull knows this and they are vicious to companies who don't have the capital to defend themselves.

fusion

04-15-2003, 07:58 PM

That sounds pretty insane to me. How can a company force you to carry their product? Any real judge would throw that case out in a heartbeat. I'd say you could probably even countersue RB if they were falsely claiming that your estabishment misrepresented their energy drink as Red Bull.

Wouldn't it be easier to just eliminate all energy drink based mixed drinks from your establishment, so nobody could confuse your KMX, A-Rush, etc with Red Bull?

I am no law expert, but I do believe that precedent has a lot to do with how a case is viewed in court by the judge who is presiding over the case. It wouldn't be that hard to photocopy some court documents of cases similar to this one.

I think you're just a club/bar owner with a beef towards RB, and you're going overboard by posting here and urging everyone to boycott.

[ 04-15-2003, 08:02 PM: Message edited by: fusion ]

SURGE

04-17-2003, 12:32 AM

Red Bull deserves recognition for some of the things they have done, built a brand, created and image, ect. But to me that isnt enough to justify some of the things i h hear about them as a copany. I feel that their product is worthless so i dont drink it but i suppose thats all we can do. Not feed the bull with our money.

boycottredbull

04-24-2003, 11:31 PM

I am a Bar manager, but not an owner. Actually I feel for the owners, because they don't have the capital (especially in our economy) to fend for themselves. It's true that a judge probably would throw their case out, but the club will need proper representation. That costs money, and Red Bull can hold up the court process for a long time before a judge even warrants the case as having merit. A judge needs to her the case and a defense to that even before they decide if it will go to trial. It's a long process that can cost a lot of money being tangled up in. Red Bull has the money to use to ensure their brand dominance. Don't get me wrong, Red bull has done amazing things and has alone created a market that didn't even exist before them. But like many pioneering companies they use unfair business practices to keep out the competition. Most companies will just take red bull into their inventory so than can breathe easier knowing they don't have a gorilla of a law suit lingering behind them. Just think about how big companies will settle a lawsuit with a payoutr before it even gets to court. They do it becuase they know it will cost less to just pay the plantiff off than to win in court and have payed all the legal fees. A bar or club owner's payoff is just to start selling red bull.

USF SPAMMER 1

07-04-2005, 11:32 PM

I'll boycott the **** out of it. You gots my vote@

DJ HawaiianShirt

07-05-2005, 08:20 AM

Boycotting Red Bull is about the easiest thing I've ever done.

Ever.

POP

07-05-2005, 01:32 PM

Red Bull tastes like @$$. I hate their product and I'm still puzzled on how successful they are with such a crappity @$$ product.

You got my vote also.

Can you post up any further details or developments concerning this?

riot

07-05-2005, 04:03 PM

stuff gives me a tummy ache anyway... LOL

Ron Swedelson

07-05-2005, 10:37 PM

whats the boycott then? If you dont buy Red Bull, that doesnt really help or hurt them. There are a lot off accounts that will only carry Rock Star on the gun or Roaring Lion...should we boycott them too? If you dont like the brand, just dont buy it.

DJ HawaiianShirt

07-06-2005, 08:19 AM

bump

USF SPAMMER 3

07-06-2005, 10:52 PM

Hi Ron!

Ron Swedelson

07-08-2005, 07:32 PM

hello

Coco Rico

07-08-2005, 09:28 PM

I agree, if you don't like it, don't buy it. The world's a better place and Red Bull still sells their 2+ billion cans this year. Oh well, eventually such a "crappity" product will have to fail... right?...