Re: Fuck the Republican Party.

Originally Posted by VigoTheCarpathian

So because our government is incompetent it means that poor farmers who work back breaking jobs for barely living wages (the kind which white people stick their noses up at) - who pay taxes, buy from and support the economy - should be uprooted and deported because of their supposed legal status which you were fine with just so long as they cut the fucking grapes off the vines and pay their rent?

So should we just open our borders and let everyone in?

Seems that's what you're advocating.

Otherwise you're just sticking up for those who broke the immigration laws (the ones who snuck in, and are already here), while fucking those who tried to obey the law and stayed in Mexico because they weren't legally allowed to come.

It's extremely foolish from a legislative standpoint to reward those who broke the rules and punish those who followed them.

I am not saying that we shouldn't give the opportunity to Mexicans to come here and work certain jobs that Americans typically don't want. I'm saying that we need a better process for that than simply expecting a certain percentage of them will break the immigration laws, and reward them for doing so.

Re: Fuck the Republican Party.

No, i'm not advocating an open border and I DO believe there must be substantial immigration reform(though I don't believe either of us can speak about the current laws or what necessary future legislation would read like.)

All I'm saying is that if someone is working, paying taxes and abiding the law, then it is a very cruel and reactionary thing to advocate their forceable removal and such a policy would have little positive effect on anyone.

Re: Fuck the Republican Party.

Originally Posted by RODGERRAMJET

More person (sic) freedoms.

Nope.

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) on Wednesday appeared to suggest a link between the Supreme Court’s rulings on gay marriage and marriage between a human and a non-human, but later walked back that suggestion and said it was a joke.

“It is difficult, because if we have no laws on this, people will take it to one extension further – does it have to be humans?” Paul said Wednesday in an interview with Glenn Beck, after Beck suggested some unintended consequences of the rulings, including polygamy.

Paul introduced the Life at Conception Act, a bill that would declare that human life begins at conception, grant fertilized eggs the same legal status as born persons and would completely criminalize abortion in the United States. “The Life at Conception Act legislatively declares what most Americans believe and what science has long known – that human life begins at the moment of conception, and therefore is entitled to legal protection from that point forward,” Paul said in a statement. “The right to life is guaranteed to all Americans in the Declaration of Independence and ensuring this is upheld is the Constitutional duty of all Members of Congress.”

Re: Fuck the Republican Party.

Originally Posted by RODGERRAMJET

Become a Liberatarian.
Less Taxes.
Less Government.
More person freedoms.

Rodge, consider this scenario:

Libertarians are elected state power.
Libertarians successfully dismantle the state.
Corporations pick up the peices of the state.
Corporations use state power to whip the public into the workforce and culture they deem fit.

Re: Fuck the Republican Party.

Re: Fuck the Republican Party.

Be unlucky enough to be born into a poor family.
Receive little or no education and limited health care as a result.
Work hard at unskilled labor, since you have few options.
Die sick and poor like your parents.

Re: Fuck the Republican Party.

Re: Fuck the Republican Party.

Originally Posted by VigoTheCarpathian

Rodge, consider this scenario:

Libertarians are elected state power.
Libertarians successfully dismantle the state.
Corporations pick up the peices of the state.
Corporations use state power to whip the public into the workforce and culture they deem fit.

That's foolish.
Please explain how corporations aren't already whipping the public into the culture they deem fit.

Originally Posted by Mugwog

eh, youre the one in a public place reading a music festival forum thread about ganja. Expect some titties.

Re: Fuck the Republican Party.

This country could have really used Romney as President. Its too bad they had to go and fuck everything up with their views on abortion. Even though nothing would have happened in terms of changing the laws on abortion.

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