I say try and embrace the wide leg to start with if you can. I know that I'd have exactly the same issue as you as everything I wear is tapered these days but I think you've got to switch up the silhouette once in a while and see how it looks. Damn, I think I've almost talked myself into buying those EG fatigues now.

I'll certainly try them as they come first off - I may be mentally exaggerating how wide they'll be in reality. Not being the slimmest of men, it's whether they add too much visual bulk.

I should hopefully be expanding my Cabourn collection to legwear this weekend - I've picked up a couple of pairs of the Selvedge Workwear Pants. I'm hoping the sellers measurements are correct because my previous attempts with his legwear haven't been successful... If they fit my slightly larger than desirable waist, the next consideration is do I wear them as wide legged as Nigel intended or do I get the legs tapered.

The Selvedge Workwear pants feel a bit strange in cut when you first wear them - They have a dungaree 1930's jean workwear cut with a low crotch (am I allowed to say 'Crotch' in polite circles) OK - saggy arse ! which, when you look down on them when you are wearing them look strange, particularly when they are new and the fabric is stiff.

They are roomy - my 30 inch waist ones came in at 33 inch

My advice is to try them and look at them in the mirror with a bit of distance to get a proper idea of how they look, then give them lots of wear which really breaks them in as you would dry denim.

let us know how you get on and we want photos

oh and definitely wear them with braces but experiment - Nigel has some new ones out with an embossed logo in the leather or dare I say it, some ones from Levi Vintage/Originals

Yeah, this is something I have to consider too. One of these days I'll stop drinking as much good beer...

My like is made difficult in that I live less than 10minutes walk from the oldest brewery in the UK - well it's a good excuse

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The Selvedge Workwear pants feel a bit strange in cut when you first wear them - They have a dungaree 1930's jean workwear cut with a low crotch (am I allowed to say 'Crotch' in polite circles) OK - saggy arse ! which, when you look down on them when you are wearing them look strange, particularly when they are new and the fabric is stiff.

They are roomy - my 30 inch waist ones came in at 33 inch

My advice is to try them and look at them in the mirror with a bit of distance to get a proper idea of how they look, then give them lots of wear which really breaks them in as you would dry denim.

let us know how you get on and we want photos

Thanks - I'll give them a go and see how I get on. good to know they are roomy. Cabourn legwear sizing seems even less consistent than the outerwear - on the cheap shorts Yoox had, the measured size is about 1/2" smaller than the tagged size.

To be honest, I'm not totally sure. They're certainly odd. And cool. And a bit of strange as well. They're sort of like my EG Oslo pants, in the wooliness and loose fit. But even more so. I feel pretty self-conscious whilst wearing them. And a bit stylin' as well :-)

I think what I'm trying to say is: They take a little getting used to.

Plus they attract dog-hair like crazy, and my Corgi sheds like crazy. A match made in hell if there ever was one.

Would tapering his trousers be that different to those who size down for a slimmer fit than Nigel intended for his jackets? It's an interesting question as to the owners aesthetic preferences and the designers.

Impossible to say, as there is often such a discrepancy between marked size and actual size. Nigel himself appears to favour his fitting super-loose, but going by the marked size they tend to be pretty damn tight around the butt. I would tend to frown upon buying an expensive, distinct pair of trousers like these only to totally change their look.

In case you hadn't already considered it though, I'll offer up something you might not have considered... When in London 2 weeks ago, I bought a pair of Old Town Vauxhall trousers. Really stout and sturdy, superb fitting, true to size, ready buttons for braces, proper solid cloth. I've hardly worn anything else since I bought them (and I never wear a anything the same 2 days running). Oh, plus they're not stupidly priced either.... (had to edit here, missed out the NOT first time around).

Impossible to say, as there is often such a discrepancy between marked size and actual size. Nigel himself appears to favour his fitting super-loose, but going by the marked size they tend to be pretty damn tight around the butt. I would tend to frown upon buying an expensive, distinct pair of trousers like these only to totally change their look.

In case you hadn't already considered it though, I'll offer up something you might not have considered... When in London 2 weeks ago, I bought a pair of Old Town Vauxhall trousers. Really stout and sturdy, superb fitting, true to size, ready buttons for braces, proper solid cloth. I've hardly worn anything else since I bought them (and I never wear a anything the same 2 days running). Oh, plus they're stupidly priced either....

Yes - I keep meaning to try Old Town - those look good. Where in London sells them ready made? It was the having something made that may or may not fit that was putting me off.

Re. The selvedge workers - I wasn't thinking of doing anything more than slimming the trousers a little from the knee - I might be happpy with them as they are. They weren't so expensive as to be a big gamble (£90 for the two - one army, one tan).

Now look at the new style bellow pockets on the above AW13 Aircraft jacket - the size, shape, proportion and fastening

And to think some people wonder why I get so enthused about Nigel Cabourn clothing !!!??

Huge fan of that coat the instant I saw it. Probably a good thing I missed out on the AW12 version. Hopefully the snaps are the same as previous versions. Love the snaps and the construction is great. Those bellow pockets totally make that coat.

Yes - I keep meaning to try Old Town - those look good. Where in London sells them ready made?

These are the guys that have them, Labour & Wait (http://www.labourandwait.co.uk/). They only have the one style of trouser though, and one style of jacket, plus one womans style of wraparound dress. Can't find mention of it on the website though.

The embossing is on the inside. These are exactly the same as previous years ones.

Yes you are right these are the same as previous years

As to whether the embossed logo is on the inside is up to you how you wear them

If you wear them with the smooth side leather tabs on the outside but wear the braces down then the logo is on the outside and the right way up

There is a tradition in vintage menswear circles to wear braces with the smooth side leather tabs and the smooth metal adjuster to the inside so the rough side doesn't rub and snag against the trousers, shirt and body - this was common when wearing braces(suspenders) while doing physical work so it's a workwear tradition. If you do this then the logo is upside down and on the outside.

Nigel Cabourn has constantly played with the idea of wearing garments inside out and the positioning of the logo and its orientation is very deliberate.Edited by Eric Gill Sans - 3/2/13 at 4:12am

As to whether the embossed logo is on the inside is up to you how you wear them

If you wear them with the smooth side leather tabs on the outside but wear the braces down then the logo is on the outside and the right way up

There is a tradition in vintage menswear circles to wear braces with the smooth side leather tabs and the smooth metal adjuster to the inside so the rough side doesn't rub and snag against the trousers, shirt and body - this was common when wearing braces(suspenders) while doing physical work so it's a workwear tradition. If you do this then the logo is upside down and on the outside.

Nigel Cabourn has constantly played with the idea of wearing garments inside out and the positioning of the logo and its orientation is very deliberate.

Just worked out that the SS13 braces(suspenders) has the embossed logo reorientated so it is the right way up when wearing the braces over the shoulders - mine although look identical were from AW11 and the logo is upside down but both logos are on what might be called the inside.Edited by Eric Gill Sans - 3/2/13 at 4:13am

Impossible to say, as there is often such a discrepancy between marked size and actual size. Nigel himself appears to favour his fitting super-loose, but going by the marked size they tend to be pretty damn tight around the butt. I would tend to frown upon buying an expensive, distinct pair of trousers like these only to totally change their look.

In case you hadn't already considered it though, I'll offer up something you might not have considered... When in London 2 weeks ago, I bought a pair of Old Town Vauxhall trousers. Really stout and sturdy, superb fitting, true to size, ready buttons for braces, proper solid cloth. I've hardly worn anything else since I bought them (and I never wear a anything the same 2 days running). Oh, plus they're not stupidly priced either.... (had to edit here, missed out the NOT first time around).

They look awesome. They show another picture on their blog and the cut looks great too, quite well fitting. Cabourn pants are out of the question for me with their baggy cut. I'm 5'8" and am pretty sure I'd look like a bleeding Oompah Loompah in any of them