I recently acquired the knowledge that I have distant relatives who perished in Bergen-Belsen camp. After doing copious reading on the Holocaust and this particular camp, I can report that those who hold the opinion the OP expresses are full of crap and aught to have the sense beat into them.Didn't we already have this thread? "Brother Nathaniel" is crazy. And not a monk. He may call himself one and play dress up, but he's not a monk by any stretch of the imagination.

So you want to pound someone just for asking a legitimate question? Lighten up tough guy. All you holocaust worshippers crack me up. the minute anyone dares to question anything about that industry, you're willing to just about kill someone over it. That alone proves most of you are paranoid and insecure about all the facts pertained to everything that really happened back then.

No, I'm being humorous. Of course no one should die for an opinion. You overestimate my feelings just a tad.

I'm not "paranoid and insecure about facts." We "Holocaust worshipers" (terribly stupid term) are merely upset because people doubt one of the worst bouts of persecution and execution in European history. Some of us have familial connections to the victims.

Would you tell a person o f African descent that the oppression of their people never happened or is somehow not as bad as they make it out to be?

I think you nead to read up on your European history a bit, genocide is nothing new on that continent and the Jews certainly don't hold some kind of monopoly of mass murder, just ask any Ukranian or Armenian and many other ethnics about wholesale murder. But the difference there is, you can actually discuss them things with them rationally and not be threatened if there is a disagreement about some incidents or statistical figures. You question the Jewish holocaust about anything than the party line and it could land you in prison in some places. for some, this has become quite a prosperous and lucrative racket as they have been shaking down entire govts like Germany for many years now and for others it almost qualifies for the status of a religion where even questioning it is on the verge of blasphemy, like I see on here and other forums. It is eery and almost cult-like.

I'm not even going to get into the the African "persecution" thing, that's a whole other ballgame. But they have their shakedown artists like Sharpton and Jackson as well, always looking to shame people with guilt to make a buck. Gimme a break.

For what it's worth, I've had family in Nazi prison camps as well and lost others fighting in the war but I'm not freaking out about it.

Do you know, there are maybe ten or twelve million Jewish people total on the planet, and while their numbers may see a modest increase due to the high birth rate among the ultra-Orthodox, in total they would still all have to have about a zillion different jobs at the same time in order to control any industry?

It's not physically or mathematically possible for these conspiracy theories to be true. There aren't enough hours in the day.

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He will come again with glory to judge the living and the dead. His kingdom will have no end.

Do you know, there are maybe ten or twelve million Jewish people total on the planet, and while their numbers may see a modest increase due to the high birth rate among the ultra-Orthodox, in total they would still all have to have about a zillion different jobs at the same time in order to control any industry?

It's not physically or mathematically possible for these conspiracy theories to be true. There aren't enough hours in the day.

No, they would only need to control a few jobs at the top.

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I would be happy to agree with you, but then both of us would be wrong.

Do you know, there are maybe ten or twelve million Jewish people total on the planet, and while their numbers may see a modest increase due to the high birth rate among the ultra-Orthodox, in total they would still all have to have about a zillion different jobs at the same time in order to control any industry?

It's not physically or mathematically possible for these conspiracy theories to be true. There aren't enough hours in the day.

Control of most industries and the running of most countries, is in the hands of a rather small group of people, so there's nothing physically or mathematically impossible with any of these conspiracy theories. Whether they're true or have any basis in reality is another matter.

Do you know, there are maybe ten or twelve million Jewish people total on the planet, and while their numbers may see a modest increase due to the high birth rate among the ultra-Orthodox, in total they would still all have to have about a zillion different jobs at the same time in order to control any industry?

It's not physically or mathematically possible for these conspiracy theories to be true. There aren't enough hours in the day.

Control of most industries and the running of most countries, is in the hands of a rather small group of people, so there's nothing physically or mathematically impossible with any of these conspiracy theories. Whether they're true or have any basis in reality is another matter.

True, this is usually the rule rather than the exception.

For example, a very small proportion of the Russian population actually belonged to the Communist Party in the Soviet Union.

Even more concerning than the Jewish control that we currently live under is their overlords,the reptilians who rule us all and keep us in a dream world. I know this to be true from a highly respected source that you can read about here. http://www.davidicke.com/

Those pesky purple demons, hard at work here this first week of the Great Fast.

Lord knows this week has been fraught with difficulty for all of us. This was/ is not the time to engage with this topic. Forgive me.

Enough with the piety play. If ain't good this "time" ain't good any time.

And the garbage that is being pushed here ain't.

In this case, it was not a 'piety play' that motivated my post. Rather, deference to the fact that the devil is that much more active at this time. So really just self-defense and a concern for other posters.

I agree there is some garbage being pushed here. But one must at least be willing to listen to someone like Finkelstein, contra the prevailing narrative.

Don't tell me you are actually a supporter of the tyrannical state of Israel?

And don't try and tar me with the anti-Semite brush. I count many Jews among my closest friends, so that crap won't fly.

Certainly the British soldiers involved in liberating some of those in concentration camps were ordinary men who were shocked by everything they saw, and the incontrovertible evidence was filmed. Of course, it was not just Jews that were so inhumanely confined and killed but others too, including Confessing Christians, Gypsies, homosexuals, Jehovah Witnesses and political dissidents. Nor did the German Reich alone commit such atrocities but others including the Croatian nationalists.

Yes, genocide is not new and did not begin or end with the Third Reich, as the Armenians and Rwandans can testify. Of the latter I met one such survivor at City University, London, whose arm had been hacked off.

That there is a political agenda on the part of the followers of the Frankfurt School and their fellow travellers and, using Lenin's apt description, useful fools who push various agenda to undermine the family, faith and other institutions. But to crudely ascribe the responsibility for this to the whole of Jewry seems to me at least simply irrational Jew-hate.

As for the state of Israel and the Palestinians what nest of horrors and complex history lies here. Did the forbears of today's Palestinians grab the land from those Jews who did not go into the Diaspora, only in turn to find themselves generations on in turn brutally torn from that same land. Nor do accounts of present day Ghettoisation of Palestinians by the descendants of Europe's forced Ghettos sit very comfortably.

Those pesky purple demons, hard at work here this first week of the Great Fast.

Lord knows this week has been fraught with difficulty for all of us. This was/ is not the time to engage with this topic. Forgive me.

Enough with the piety play. If ain't good this "time" ain't good any time.

And the garbage that is being pushed here ain't.

In this case, it was not a 'piety play' that motivated my post. Rather, deference to the fact that the devil is that much more active at this time. So really just self-defense and a concern for other posters.

I agree there is some garbage being pushed here. But one must at least be willing to listen to someone like Finkelstein, contra the prevailing narrative.

Don't tell me you are actually a supporter of the tyrannical state of Israel?

And don't try and tar me with the anti-Semite brush. I count many Jews among my closest friends, so that crap won't fly.

nvm--more purple demons

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