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Yes young players need developing but when there are injuries to key players only a developed player will provide adequate cover. These young lads need to be used gradually and in games where we are 2 goals to the good, which is, sadly, something we rarely are. This squad needs strength in depth and presently that is not there. IL and CW have already said they don't want to go down the Loanee route so lets hope the injury list decreases not increases.

Yes young players need developing but when there are injuries to key players only a developed player will provide adequate cover. These young lads need to be used gradually and in games where we are 2 goals to the good, which is, sadly, something we rarely are. This squad needs strength in depth and presently that is not there. IL and CW have already said they don't want to go down the Loanee route so lets hope the injury list decreases not increases.Richard Wickson

Absolute **** to say he didn't feel O'Dowda would have made an impact in the defensive part of the game! How do you know without giving him a chance! Stop being so cautious and give the lad a run out!

Absolute **** to say he didn't feel O'Dowda would have made an impact in the defensive part of the game! How do you know without giving him a chance! Stop being so cautious and give the lad a run out!The Secret Yellow

At the Manor, so many players established themselves whilst in their teens . We are not talking about 16 year olds - there are so many many good 18 year olds about - let's hope that we have three or four of 4th division standard

At the Manor, so many players established themselves whilst in their teens . We are not talking about 16 year olds - there are so many many good 18 year olds about - let's hope that we have three or four of 4th division standardoldun

Alfie Potter is nearer to 25 than he is to 24. He is NOT particularly young - and should be very close to his peak. Thomas, Brock, Tait, Taylor , Foley , Mark Jones , Beauchamp etc etc - they were many years younger than Alfie - and playing very well by the time they were 19

Alfie Potter is nearer to 25 than he is to 24. He is NOT particularly young - and should be very close to his peak. Thomas, Brock, Tait, Taylor , Foley , Mark Jones , Beauchamp etc etc - they were many years younger than Alfie - and playing very well by the time they were 19oldun

Wilder has spoken about certain games that he is reluctant to play the youngsters - essentially wrapping them up in bubble wrap.
We are talking about a game of football, not sending them to war.

The way I learnt to be a good carpenter was to be put into the thick of it, if I managed the situation then I learnt, if the situation or job was out of my hands - I learnt.

At times the best way to learn is to be put into action, not sit on the bench with your hands in your pockets.

I can understand not wanting to take the risk with younger defenders but I feel you can be a little more risky with strikers or attacking midfielder's.

Wilder has spoken about certain games that he is reluctant to play the youngsters - essentially wrapping them up in bubble wrap.
We are talking about a game of football, not sending them to war.
The way I learnt to be a good carpenter was to be put into the thick of it, if I managed the situation then I learnt, if the situation or job was out of my hands - I learnt.
At times the best way to learn is to be put into action, not sit on the bench with your hands in your pockets.
I can understand not wanting to take the risk with younger defenders but I feel you can be a little more risky with strikers or attacking midfielder's.87oufc

It's correct to say pitching them in may develop them quickly, look at Rooney, Ramsey and Wilshire but these are players light years ahead of our youngsters. Maybe Marsh might be the exception and does need bringing on quicker than the defenders, tho what does worry me is that we always look negative in attack needing 4 shots on goal to score once.

It's correct to say pitching them in may develop them quickly, look at Rooney, Ramsey and Wilshire but these are players light years ahead of our youngsters. Maybe Marsh might be the exception and does need bringing on quicker than the defenders, tho what does worry me is that we always look negative in attack needing 4 shots on goal to score once.Richard Wickson

So the Rochdale full back was adventurous & causing problems, maybe by sticking O' Dowda on, he would have been forced back & be more cautious as he'd occupied with stopping O' Dowda going forward.

So the Rochdale full back was adventurous & causing problems, maybe by sticking O' Dowda on, he would have been forced back & be more cautious as he'd occupied with stopping O' Dowda going forward.Manor Born

oldun wrote:
What would Magilton have made of the 4th division when he was 18? At 21 and a few months , he was starring for United in the second tier. 24 is not young for a player . Here come the thumbs down!

Of course I realise that it is unlikely that we have a Magilton, Durnin or Brock - but I am saying that many many players are close to their best by the time they are 21 and are emerging by that time - Magilton and Durnin would have been playing well in the second flight when they were 19 - wouldn't they? ditto Brock, Beauchamp and Briggs. Blood 18 year olds regularly in the 4th division, CW !! Oh yes, and , of course , (for the 4th time) Alfie is not particularly young! Remember Atkins holding back Whitehead (on the bench - or the wing!!)

[quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote:
What would Magilton have made of the 4th division when he was 18? At 21 and a few months , he was starring for United in the second tier. 24 is not young for a player . Here come the thumbs down![/p][/quote]Of course I realise that it is unlikely that we have a Magilton, Durnin or Brock - but I am saying that many many players are close to their best by the time they are 21 and are emerging by that time - Magilton and Durnin would have been playing well in the second flight when they were 19 - wouldn't they? ditto Brock, Beauchamp and Briggs. Blood 18 year olds regularly in the 4th division, CW !! Oh yes, and , of course , (for the 4th time) Alfie is not particularly young! Remember Atkins holding back Whitehead (on the bench - or the wing!!)oldun

Manor Born wrote:
So the Rochdale full back was adventurous &amp; causing problems, maybe by sticking O' Dowda on, he would have been forced back &amp; be more cautious as he'd occupied with stopping O' Dowda going forward.

Very good point. Wilder is rarely adventurous at home preferring not to lose instead of going for the win, that's why we lost so many last season.

[quote][p][bold]Manor Born[/bold] wrote:
So the Rochdale full back was adventurous & causing problems, maybe by sticking O' Dowda on, he would have been forced back & be more cautious as he'd occupied with stopping O' Dowda going forward.[/p][/quote]Very good point. Wilder is rarely adventurous at home preferring not to lose instead of going for the win, that's why we lost so many last season.Richard Wickson