Ever been kicked off a portion of your route? (Read 319 times)

mab411

Proboscis Colossus

posted: 2/3/2013 at 1:03 AMmodified: 2/3/2013 at 1:11 AM

One of my regular routes takes me by a small airfield, and I often run up the taxiway and back if I need to add a mile to that route and don't want to go a whole different way. Just so you have a clear picture of why this isn't completely insane, I've never encountered a moving plane doing this, and in fact have only seen people out there two or three times - it's a very small airfield with apparently not a lot of activity. MTA: The day I first ran on it, I asked a gentleman who was there working if there was a problem with me being out there, and he said it was fine as long as I stayed on the taxiway.

Today was one of those times there were people - an older man in a truck talking to a couple standing next to a small single-seater plane. I ran past, waved, and on my way back the older man drove up beside me and said, "You can't run out here!"

During the course of the conversation, he pointed out that they can't let people who don't keep planes out there on the field for liability purposes, and it is private property, after all. I mentioned the earlier conversation I'd had about running on the taxiway, and asked if there was anyone I could talk to about getting permission, and he said he owned the field, so that was about as high up as I could go.

I'm actually suspicious he might have been the first guy I talked to early on, but he wasn't being a jerk about it, so I pretty much let it drop. I could have pointed out, there isn't a "no trespassing sign" to be seen anywhere on the premises, but that would have just been petty. Asked him about the hours of the historical museum I'd seen advertised (this is apparently the first airfield in Texas), and he said I could call for an appointment. Seemed like a nice guy.

Anyone else been hassled by The Man on part of your route?

"God guides us on our journey, but careful with those feet." - David Lee Roth, of all people

Once I was in the latter part of a 20-miler, finishing up through a public park. Some guy on a bike stopped me and said I couldn't run through the park because they were having some pay festival later in the day (nothing was even being set up then). No signs, no blockages, nothing anywhere to indicate this. More importantly although I was less than a mile from exiting the park on the side close to my house, he wanted to force me to turn back and go the long way around, adding ~5 miles to the run. I told him that since they didn't block the trail or put up a sign at the entrance, I was NOT going to run a full marathon by going around and unless he was going to loan me his bike to ride home I was going to run through. So he said he'd have to "escort" me to make sure I left the park.

A friend and I had the police follow a hundred yards behind us for a couple miles once, but that may have had something to do with us running a loop right around the Pentagon on the morning before a major public event there.

"If you want to be a bad a$s, then do what a bad a$s does. There's your pep talk for today. Go Run." -- Slo_Hand

There isn't a "no trespassing" sign in my yard either. Doesn't mean I won't come out and tell you to, "get off my lawn!"

As a pilot, I would never consider running on an airport movement area - taxiway or runway. These are places people and vehicles other than airplanes and known working personnel just aren't expected or supposed to be.

And, you may not believe it, but it actually can be dangerous, even at very small airfields - planes and gliders can sneak up on you, people regularly walk unknowingly into spinning props, etc.

Of course, I wouldn't expect "lay" people to know this. (Although, I don't think I would have gone running on a taxiway or runway even before learning all the piloty stuff - just doesn't seem right.)

Now, back to your "The Man Rant" ...

Liz

pace sera, sera

NHLA

posted: 2/3/2013 at 8:54 AM

The Big Hungry has over 30 miles of trails but now some of it is private property. You can't run all of it without cutting across posted land. I got caught by a very rude land owner. Lucky I knew his boss so his tone changed but I don't cut across his land anymore.

There isn't a "no trespassing" sign in my yard either. Doesn't mean I won't come out and tell you to, "get off my lawn!"

As a pilot, I would never consider running on an airport movement area - taxiway or runway. These are places people and vehicles other than airplanes and known working personnel just aren't expected or supposed to be.

And, you may not believe it, but it actually can be dangerous, even at very small airfields - planes and gliders can sneak up on you, people regularly walk unknowingly into spinning props, etc.

Of course, I wouldn't expect "lay" people to know this. (Although, I don't think I would have gone running on a taxiway or runway even before learning all the piloty stuff - just doesn't seem right.)

Now, back to your "The Man Rant" ...

*shrugs* But if I'd been granted permission to run across your lawn previously, I think it would be reasonable for me to think it was fine. And during that same conversation, the fellow indicated that it would be safe to run on the taxiway*. I really don't think, at least as a "lay" person, I was doing anything too outrageous.

But it's neither here nor there. Dude was nice enough in asking me to stay out (my "The Man" comment was just a joke), I'll stay out, no hard feelings.

*you mentioned that vehicles other than airplanes aren't supposed to be on the taxiway - actually, the only vehicles I've seen on the stretch I was running are cars and trucks. Does that mean I was wrong, that I wasn't actually running on the taxiway?

"God guides us on our journey, but careful with those feet." - David Lee Roth, of all people

LeighDS

Live Free & Run

posted: 2/3/2013 at 12:08 PM

Yes, but only temporarily. I have my usual loops of various lengths throughout my neighborhood and there tends to be local races that run through certains parts. However I was uninformed on a race that day and I was on the back half on the morning run when I turned a corner and saw what looked like a riot being lead by our city's PD. Well let's just say I did a 180 and ran like mad until I saw where they'd be turning. I think I ended up adding an extra mile or two because of this!

Our club puts out water every 5 miles on the routes we run beforehand every Saturday and Sunday. One place was the "entrance" to a neighborhood (actually, just a little patch of garden in some railroad ties with a fancy sign indicating the name of the neighborhood). My town has a LOT of these type of neighborhoods. We ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS come by to pick up our trash after the runs.

One morning at 6 AM, one of our members was putting water out, and some guy who lived there asked what she was doing, said it was "unacceptable", and that if he saw it again, would take the water. Apparently he was a real d!ck about it.

Bottom line, it wasn't private property, we only spent 5 minutes there a day, and we always cleaned up, and actually, we probably were done our runs before anyone was awake on a weekend anyway. But, why make things worse.

So, I went across the street to a farm stand the next afternoon, and asked the owner if we could stash our water there instead. It was a nicer place anyway, had a few picnic tables and a trash can. She said no problem, I left her my card if there was ever an issue, and haven't heard from her in 5 years. Our members frequent her business, so that helps too.

But, the d!cky guy...I just don't get why some people have to be a$$holes. The guy probably was compensating for his small penis anyway. Hope he enjoyed his "victory".

Disney is the most anti-runnerly place in the universe, outside their overpriced event races. I have stayed in Downtown Disney a few times for meetings, and it is just as bad. I have run through DD when there early in the morning long before the crowds arrive. I have more than once been told by workers there that I cannot run through the pedestrian streets there, and been turned back. Meh.

Our club puts out water every 5 miles on the routes we run beforehand every Saturday and Sunday. One place was the "entrance" to a neighborhood (actually, just a little patch of garden in some railroad ties with a fancy sign indicating the name of the neighborhood). My town has a LOT of these type of neighborhoods. We ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS come by to pick up our trash after the runs.

One morning at 6 AM, one of our members was putting water out, and some guy who lived there asked what she was doing, said it was "unacceptable", and that if he saw it again, would take the water. Apparently he was a real d!ck about it.

Bottom line, it wasn't private property, we only spent 5 minutes there a day, and we always cleaned up, and actually, we probably were done our runs before anyone was awake on a weekend anyway. But, why make things worse.

So, I went across the street to a farm stand the next afternoon, and asked the owner if we could stash our water there instead. It was a nicer place anyway, had a few picnic tables and a trash can. She said no problem, I left her my card if there was ever an issue, and haven't heard from her in 5 years. Our members frequent her business, so that helps too.

But, the d!cky guy...I just don't get why some people have to be a$$holes. The guy probably was compensating for his small penis anyway. Hope he enjoyed his "victory".

What you've got there sounds like a homeowners' association doing its thing. If you want to see how quickly the tiniest bit of power turns a normal person into a goose-stepping douchebag, just Google "HOA horror stories."

I think some of these people get an actual, tangible sexual thrill out of enforcing their neighbors' choice of yard mulch and barbecue grill placement.

andrew jerald

posted: 2/3/2013 at 1:14 PM

I run on base a lot and I'm required to carry my I.d on me at all times....Well usually I'm to scared of dropping it while running so I never bring it with me. Well one day A friend and I decided to change routes and got a little too close to a main road where a base patrol man was sitting. Well after asking for our I.d's we ended up getting a ride back to where we work so we could show the base patrol man our badges. Its never a good thing being in the military, and showing up at work in a patrol car, many questions are asked by higher ups....

zonykel

posted: 2/3/2013 at 1:36 PM

There are plenty of solutions out there to carry your ID. Ive seen people with transparent arm bands. I'm sure there are other solutions out there, like zippered short pockets.

I run on base a lot and I'm required to carry my I.d on me at all times....Well usually I'm to scared of dropping it while running so I never bring it with me. Well one day A friend and I decided to change routes and got a little too close to a main road where a base patrol man was sitting. Well after asking for our I.d's we ended up getting a ride back to where we work so we could show the base patrol man our badges. Its never a good thing being in the military, and showing up at work in a patrol car, many questions are asked by higher ups....

What you've got there sounds like a homeowners' association doing its thing. If you want to see how quickly the tiniest bit of power turns a normal person into a goose-stepping douchebag, just Google "HOA horror stories."

I think some of these people get an actual, tangible sexual thrill out of enforcing their neighbors' choice of yard mulch and barbecue grill placement.

I hear what you say, but it's not "quite" as bad as that. But, similar. Still, though, (I checked, since I was really pissed about it) they do NOT own that piece of ground, it's owned by the town.

As a matter of fact, the neighborhood that I live in DOES own property (we have beaches and stuff, which we DO patrol), but, I'm pretty darn sure that if people started dropping water, AND cleaning it up, there would be no issue.

Agreed on the sexual thrill stuff in their case. But it's not that bad where we live. But, there are a LOT of "neighborhoods" in our township.

I hear what you say, but it's not "quite" as bad as that. But, similar. Still, though, (I checked, since I was really pissed about it) they do NOT own that piece of ground, it's owned by the town.

Not owning the ground or having authority won't stop the dedicated HOA tyrant. I know someone who was sued by a HOA because their door was painted a color they did not like. The person sued was NOT part of the HOA, but was across the street in a different neighborhood.

"If you want to be a bad a$s, then do what a bad a$s does. There's your pep talk for today. Go Run." -- Slo_Hand

Not owning the ground or having authority won't stop the dedicated HOA tyrant. I know someone who was sued by a HOA because their door was painted a color they did not like. The person sued was NOT part of the HOA, but was across the street in a different neighborhood.