Was NASA Technology Predicted in Ancient Indian Writings?

Is it possible that ancient cultures 7000 years ago knew how to create flying machines to traverse the sky and beyond using a technology that NASA engineers are still trying to harness today?

The first artificial satellite launched famously into orbit was the Russian satellite Sputnik, in 1957. Prior to this, rockets had been used to launch missiles for warfare. The first rocket able to fly high enough to get into space was the German A4/V-2 rocket family launched in 1942. Considering early powered flight and early models of the aeroplane these advances still only date back to the beginning of the 20th century. However there are many books and websites which forcefully and passionately assert that technologically advanced aircraft and spacecraft were in common use over the Indian subcontinent thousands of years ago. These same sources claim that advanced space propulsion techniques being researched by NASA are in fact directly inspired by ancient flying machines.

Could these amazing stories be true? The answer will be obvious to anyone with any knowledge of science or history but let us try to look at the claims as fairly as we can.

In Hindu mythology, demon King Ravana of Lanka (ancient Sri Lanka) brought to the country something called the Pushpaka Vimãna. Vimãna literally means to traverse or to measure. Other uses of the word refer to a temple or a flying machine. The Pushpaka Vimãna is thought to be King Ravana’s flying palace which was shaped like a giant peacock. Every country has their myths and legends. In Ireland, Finn McCool is a familiar character in ancient stories. So where does fiction meet fact? How is this ancient flying machine relevant to today?

Some say that “ancient scriptures” tell of these ancient aeronauts, but there is no record of these documents prior to the last century. A publication called the Vaimãnika Shastra or the Science of Aeronautics, is a 20th century text written by one Subbaraya Shastry sometime between 1918-1923. However the information provided in this book is believed to have been obtained by psychic channelling with the ancient Saint Bharadvaja. Subbaraya Shastry was believed to have contracted leprosy. He left his home and spent nine years living in the forest. During this time he is supposed to have spoken with the ancient saint (sage Bharadvaja) and was enlightened with this new found knowledge of flying machines. He later returned home (as he also had been cured of leprosy), but Shastry could not read or write so he dictated his new knowledge over the period of 5 years,( 25 years after the psychic experience itself). The dictated text was apparently discovered in 1952 by G.R Josyer who later translated it into English in 1973. This publication contains eight chapters claiming that ancient vimãnas from the King Ravana legend were actually feasible flying machines, perhaps even similar in ability to rockets. The text indicates that propulsion was provided using rotating gyroscopes of electricity and mercury.

The existing text is said to only be a small section of larger (lost) works. It aims to provide information to pilots on the secrets of hearing and destroying enemy planes at the same time remaining motionless, unbreakable and invisible. According to American author David Hatcher Childress (born 1957), another ancient Indian piece of work that he decoded, Samarangana Sutradhara reveals that these ancient flying vimãnas, referred to in ‘Vaimãnika Shastra’ were powered by the metal mercury. He states in the text is says “By means of the power latent in the mercury which sets the driving whirlwind in motion, a man sitting inside may travel a great distance in the sky…” This powerplant is referred to as a “mercury vortex engine”.

The ‘Vaimãnika Shastra’ although dubbed an ancient text in reality was decoded less than 100 years ago. It was supposedly dictated by psychically channelling an ancient saint; however it was written almost 25 years after the author actually had the experience. The author was believed to be a leper, spending years in isolation. Coincidentally in history, a treatment solution for leprosy was mercury. Perhaps this was inspiration for the fuel of the vimãnas? American author David Hatcher Childress has published over 200 books mostly on unusual topics such as ancient astronauts and the lost city of Atlantis, however Childress’ works have been criticised by historical archaeologists for being factually incorrect. He is also the owner of a publishing house and no doubt mysterious topics gather more interest in sales.

A study by the aeronautical and mechanical engineering department at the Indian Institute of Science in 1974, referred to the crafts as “poor concoctions” and the crafts themselves were unfeasible for flight. The text also does not explain how the vimãnas actually get up into the air and the information appears as though the author has knowledge of some modern machinery (that is to say modern for the early 1900s), yet there appears to be little to no understanding of aeronautics. The illustrations provided were based upon the text, and are more comparable to steampunk flying machines. So despite the fact that these creations are masquerading as ancient designs, in truth this is far from the reality.

NASA ion engine testing for deep space craft. (Image credit: NASA)

NASA (and other research organisations) have been experimenting with the ion propulsion concept since the 1950s. In an ion propulsion engine, the gas is held in a chamber surrounded by magnets. An electrical charge causes the atoms to lose electrons, therefore turning them into ions. As the ionised gas jet is expelled out of the craft, it is then propelled in the opposite direction.In the 1970s when this technology was being trialled in earthbound laboratories, mercury or caesium was used as propellant. Mercury is liquid at room temperature and caesium is a solid. Therefore, they were both relatively easy to store. In order to be used as a propellant both elements needed to be heated to become a gas.

The problems arose when some of the gases condensed and leaked onto the ground. Caesium is radioactive, can be corrosive and is very dangerous. Mercury is also a neurotoxin and is thought to be one of the more dangerous metals and exposure to it can cause various health problems. After determining that both these elements were much too toxic and dangerous to use, scientists turned to using Xenon, an odourless, colourless gas which is generally unreactive. This futuristic idea was used on the Dawn spacecraft. This craft was launched in 2007 and travelled towards the asteroid belt using ion propulsion engines visiting Vesta. It is intended to reach the dwarf planet Ceres located in the asteroid belt in February of 2015. These experiments by NASA in the 1970s may have been the inspiration for the legend that NASA is trying to build space vehicles pushed along by the mercury vortex engines of legend.

A stylised artist’s impression of the Dawn spacecraft with Ceres (created before the mission reached the dwarf planet). Ion propulsion takes a little longer than other methods to manoeuvre into orbit. (image credit: NASA/JPL)

So despite claims that ancient scholars were aware of flying machines that used mercury as a propellant, this not something which NASA are harnessing today. Although ion engines using mercury were tested in the past they are not in use now. Equally the ancient text explaining the science of aeronautics is really not that ancient at all as it was decoded less than 100 years ago and doesn’t actually explain the science of how to actually get into the air. In terms of myths and legends the story of the flying peacock seems like a great one but in reality there are no mercury vortex engines and especially not ones from the era of King Ravana.

(Article by Martina Redpath, Senior Education Support Officer)

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The movie The Objective (2008) which deals with US soldiers encountering vimanas in Afghanistan is fiction and not a documentary. It in no way constitutes evidence of ancient technology.

Suraj Upadhyay
· November 7, 2018 at 12:32

C.K. Bharathy
· November 20, 2018 at 07:08

I happened to see this article and was amazed that administers with patience exist. However it’s revealing to find that question s which are adequately answered are being raised again and again. Within the limits of the subjects and stated position of terms of dialogue, most of the issues raised by fellow Indians are outside the scope but nevertheless friends insist pathetically worn out points.
I respect their feelings and points of view but most are repeatedly mistaking this for letting steam. If allowing people to vent their feelings is also a intention then it is laudable.
There are profound truth in Upanishad vedas and other ancient texts referred here. Also great poetry. Truth so profound that they are perennial. But if some elements of truth is even vaguely understood we would not be talking so vaguely. Modern Indians are as materialistic as everyone else. Unfortunately the spiritualism too is material. Not blaming we love talking about and about it ad nauseum. If one of the friends here were to really look again at his posting critically
One can catch himself going over drive and understand something of the problem.after so many years threads are running it’s no more about Vimana but verbal diarrhea. I don’t want to hurt but it hurts me to see how we have lost our sanity. This explains so much about what is inexplicable about our daily living conditions in India, though it’s too complicated to explain and I am making the same mistake as my friends of going outside the topic. There is wisdom in ancient texts but not an idiots guide to build Vimana. Essentially spirituality goes beyond science. It deals with nature of reality. Science doesn’t claim to do this . It’s laws are dealing with objective world of things. Except perhaps psychology, which tries to deal with our dilemma of existence, which it doesn’t do well – my opinion. Please go into slight depth of yourself by meditation or whatever. Then you might get to deal with your daily life bit more intelligently. It will be of tremendous help to India.
Truth doesn’t need defending. “ Those who know do not speak and those who speak do not know “ here speak means speaking outside your field. “ Wise man points his finger at the moon , fool looks at the finger” humbly no judgement intended. I was doing this till I realized where the problem is – with myself and Not NASA copying Ramayana. There could have been very advanced civilizations and aliens may have come. You can’t disprove them, it’s very possible but if I have tooth ache I have to find my way to a dentist.

Larry J Vargo
· November 1, 2018 at 17:21

All this is well and good, but if these assertions of ancient flying machines and the knowledge of how to build them is true, why hasn’t anyone actually BUILT and OPERATED one? Then you’d have no trouble being taken seriously. None at all.
But all I’m getting here is statements of the superiority of these ancient civilizations over what we have now.
Despite the existence of B52’s and the Concorde some of these writers choose to impugne the work of the Wright Brothers, among others.
Yet, with supposedly credible records of “mercury vortex engines” and such no one has yet stepped up and recreated what would seem to me an epic and irrefutable reproduction of what was.
Instead what we’re getting is beginning to sound a bit overly egotistical. You have these records to work with. The Wrights, Bleriot, Santos-Dumont, et al didn’t even have that. There’s a saying I hear they have in Missouri. “Show me”. Please do.
P.S. And how you can believe this and consider the moon landings, with records probably every bit as extensive a hoax is beyond me. Oh, I forgot, back then no one altered records or falsified anything. Right. Please, everyone, follow your own advice about keeping an open mind. These squabbles are getting ridiculous

Renegade
· September 2, 2018 at 07:50

Hi Renegade. The reason why you couldn’t see your reply was because they hadn’t been approved yet. You commented on our blog yesterday, which was a Sunday. Our staff don’t work on a Sunday so no one was available to approve the comment. You should hopefully be able to see them now 🙂

TinyLife
· August 8, 2018 at 19:41

Sometimes i feel this whole thing is something similar to moon landing hoax theorist claims that we never went to the moon. I definitely believe we went to moon in 1969. But if you ask NASA now, they say the technology to go to moon has been lost (some reports says its obsolete). The hoax theorists latch on this point and say if we cannot go to the moon today then how it is possible that we could make it in 1969. No matter how much you try to convince them that we have flight recordings, communication records, blue prints of the mission etc. they are simply not going to believe.

Now imagine if all those proofs we have are actually destroyed then it will be really difficult to convince the generation of people 50 years from now that we indeed made it to the moon in 1969. All that might remain could be few articles in some old magazines or few chapters in some old books. 7000 years is a long time in human history so it is really difficult to believe something like flying machines could exists that long ago.

So i agree that unless there is concrete evidence it is really hard to believe if Vimanas (flying machines) exists some 7000 years ago.

TinyLife
· August 6, 2018 at 01:11

Unless the evidence provide itself, it is near impossible to prove whether flying machine existed in India or for that matter in other ancient civilizations like Sumerian, Egyptian, Mayan etc. that have mention of flying machine in their ancient text or in the form of symbols. If they are not real what is the purpose of mentioning them in the ancient text.

As for the proof all i can say is have we dug up every corner on earth(land) or 100% explored our oceans so as to come to the conclusion that there is nothing more to be found?

Science demands proof so what proof can it provide that mind or consciousness exists? All we see is the activity in the various regions of the brain. Science says mind/consciousness is an emergent phenomena of the brain. What exactly is this emergent phenomena? what it is made of? what is it’s nature etc. If science cannot answer this then it is just another scientific mumbo-jumbo to fill the gap in understanding.

If the technology exists in the past then why it is not present today and logically we should have been much more technologically advanced, 7000 years is not a small time on human scale. The answer is natural calamity can reset the civilizations in one go to zero, resulting in loss of acquired knowledge.

In future science may be able to explain exactly what is mind or consciousness, similarly tomorrow we may find evidence of flying machine. The point is to keep the mind open for various possibilities.

TinyLife
· August 5, 2018 at 14:11

Who is to say that NASA’s technology was inspired by ancient Indian text and or is a result of reverse engineering of alien spacecraft? When it comes to Aliens/UFO, a scientific and rational mind outrightly rejects it and ask’s for proof which ofcourse i cannot give but i do believe there is life elsewhere in the Universe and some of it can be very advanced. It is sheer human arrogance to believe that we are alone in this vast Universe. Besides it contradicts the idea that God made us as his own image!

Ancient flying machines have been mentioned in texts/writings/symbolic form in nearly all ancient civilizations especially in Indian, Sumerian, Egyptian and Myan. Is there some truth in them? It appears to be else why would the ancients mentioned it? Or is it the case that their imaginations were running wild? Well i think it’s a matter of belief. A rational and scientific mind would counter with a question that if ancients were that advanced then why we are not? Where is the technology, where is the proof?

My answer is, the technology is lost due to Civilization reset caused by natural calamity. The stories of massive floods in all religious scriptures, scared text is not imagination. There were massive floods at the end of last ice age(12000-12500 years) wiping out nearly the entire existing civilizations, effectively resetting them to zero. Those who survived fled to various parts of the world amd from them rose the civilizations of India, Sumerian, Egyptian, Chinese etc.

No civilization can claim that the ancient advanced technology is exclusively theirs, unfortunately we(I am an Indian) Indians just to that(probably it gives us some ego kick!) also a good reason(for claiming) is that more than any existing civilization, Indian civilization has managed to save maximum number of ancient texts and sacred scriptures. So many of things that science discovers/invent today will find direct/indirect reference in the ancient texts.

There is no doubt in my mind that as of today Indian and perhaps Chinese is the oldest continuous civilization but we were not the first or the cradle of civilization. For those who believe(espically Indian) in psychic stuff must believe in the following and if you do you will find that from where what we claim is ours came from.

Vinay
· July 13, 2018 at 23:41

Agreed that many things in myths and legends are difficult to prove . But surely it can be proved with at some point of time. BTW legends are stories and ancient texts like Vedas are not exactly stories but a concise form of collected knowledge,parts of which have been lost in antiquity.

Admin,

I think everyone should be aware that even the so called evidence of science rests on mathematical proofs and theorems . But it has been proven again that everything cannot be proven by a formal system or method with our so called modern knowledge.(See Godels theorem of incompleteness). The nature of humans is to agree with what can be seen at present and what can be reproduced. But what cannot be reproduced is not an evidence that it had never existed.

Thank you for given this knowledge about the hindu religion. First flying machine develop in india with the Mercury engine. But now days theory of the powerful Mercury engine is not prasent but i fromise with you for giving the theory and project of Mercury engine in few days with help of scientists of INDRAPRASTH INSTITUTE OF AERONAUTICAL AND AEROSPACE REASEARCH ORGANISATION

shridhar powar
· July 26, 2018 at 06:21

Renegade
· September 2, 2018 at 07:14

No offense but what u have written is totally wrong. Plz do some proper research and then comment. These kind of baseless comments make us Indians look stupid and fools. I beg u again please do proper research then comment. Your comment has no head nor tail of the actual topic that is being discussed.
A guest.

Renegade
· September 2, 2018 at 07:28

No offense but please do some research before u post something. This is not about Aryans or non Aryans it is about the the possibility of flying machines that existed during Raja Ram’s period or not. Also whether NASA is or was using this knowledge to educate themselves about flying.
comments like urs make us Indians look foolish which we r not. Moreover u don’t seem to have even bothered to properly read what the discussion is all about.

Federico
· December 23, 2017 at 03:20

Hello, am no scientists and ran into because i am Fascinated on acient texts and since looking into then i have found how the science of the battery as we know it today was in these anicent texts. There is still so much of our world that has not been discovered.. there is an old saying to know ones future one must understand their past. To think that we are so head of our time i think that we are playing catch up. The are Monuments and old scriptures that with all the tech we have now still cant explain. I do have a fond belief that history if studied correctly and people having faith and always chanellging, and searching for answer to this worlds mistories we can come alot closer to having a brighter future.

Sahil Lihala
· May 27, 2018 at 03:29

mk
· November 6, 2017 at 11:55

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Samurai Jack
· September 23, 2017 at 11:21

Saagar J
· September 14, 2017 at 11:00

Dear Admin

I am really disappointed to see that you engage with people who do not understand how science work. People are entitled to have their own opinion but not their own facts. I am disappointed because the tax payers money towards NASA has been wasted in explaining devotes that their is a difference between science and faith. Science needs evidence faith does not.

I hope this thread is discontinued.

If indeed there were any advanced science in India in the past then intelligence must have declined for centuries for them to deteriorate to the extent that they invented aeroplanes millennia ago but can not sort out their traffic in 21st century. The intelligence, bravery , strength everything seem to have gone down over generations , 1st being ruled by Mughals then Brits.

All the contributors should try to explain …what happened to all that development and why the decline. May be for generations, inward looking, superstitious morons have been born.

Thanks for your comment. Since this article was posted we have gone through a number of people as the admin on our site. The person who would have published this article and replied to all the comments is no longer in our organisation, but I can assure you that he did stick to science. The whole point of an organisation like ours is to talk to people who do not understand how science works. We pride ourselves in trying to bring the hard sciences to the people in a fun and informative manner 🙂

Akhil Reddy
· January 11, 2018 at 16:06

Hi Admin,

I do agree with your article but one thing I’m surprised is that the author said that the “Vaimanika Shastra was written around 100 years ago”.

But there is more for that. The author who wrote the vaimanika shastra book was decoding from the Vedas and only one fourth part of the book “Yantra Sarvaswa by Maharishi Bharadwaja” was decoded and written with modern calculations and diagrams.

This doesn’t mean the work was recent. Bharadwaja was an ancient scholar who is famous for medicinal and lot of other works. You can search in Google or wiki on him and his books. For “Yantra Sarvaswa”, please google it for more info.

So please correct the article that this Vimana shastra was not written 100 years ago, this is DECODED 100 years ago for some part and the current world is yet decoding the Sanskrit texts and Vedas for more knowledge.

shridhar powar
· July 26, 2018 at 06:25

scientist like you should atleast understand that its not always a forward march for mankind,There are many inexplicable facts of ancient history.Just visit some few temples and maybe you will get enlightened.the surface finish of some of the stones that have been erected at some of these temples were definitely not by some ‘morons’.

DR Ravishankar Polisetty
· July 22, 2019 at 17:36

Dear Shri Saagar! Just because you are a scientist at ISRO, you cannot be non-scientific and keep imposing your ideas and faith on others. If you are sure that your older generations were morons then, I could agree because how can I disagree with your assessment of your own family? But if you are accusing that the ancient India had no science then, what’s the proof that you are presenting. What’s the data that you generated to demonstrate your hypothesis? My supposition is that, you have the scriptures on Astronomy and Advance Math (Sulabh sutras and Aryabhatiya and others) and advance Medicine in the form of Ayurveda and they are too scientific to be called as Myths.

Sagar
· August 23, 2019 at 12:29

Please do not ever refer yourself from henceforth as a Scientist at such a respectable organisation. I have to ask, but did you become a scientist by practical knowledge or rote memorization? Because, for a true Scientist, ANY possibility, no matter how absurd, is always a probable avenue of exploration until each and every such avenue have been exhausted to the limit. The moment a thought such as “That’s Impossible!/ That’s Absurd!! ” appears in the mind of a scientist…that is the moment s/he stop being a Scientist and start existing as a knowledgeable person. How can you be expected to invent/discover something if scepticism exists within you? I don’t know about somewhere else, but in the library of the Andhra University, exists(or used to, not sure now) a book called HINDUISM. It’s a record of everything, how and why we were told to do something in a particular way at a particular time of the year in a particular part of the nation.

“If indeed there were any Advanced Science in India.. ” this is what you said didn’t you sir? Did you know the reason why the “Prashaad” they serve you in the temples during festival times is different from the usual prashaad?

That’s because the ingredients/methods used in making those prashaads for a particular festival helps regulate your body and prevent the occurrence of any form of Climate change Sickness. Those “IDIOTS OF THE PAST”(that’s what your words refer to all our ancessors as btw) were intelligent enough to recognize the changes in the human body with change in climate in different parts of the country and then found methods to counteract the bad affects of the climate change on the body using the materials available in that particular region (without depending on any form of OBSERVATIONAL EQUIPMENT) and then devised a method so that EACH AND EVERY person would automatically consume the “MEDICINE/PRASHAAD” that is thus produced by making it a compulsory consumption during the time of Climate change/festival. Oh, they also made sure that those who weren’t able to afford such medicines would be able to consume them by preaching that distributong the Prashaad/Medicine would bring good karma. And what does it more than saving lives isn’t it?

By your single comment, you have managed to
-Disgrace the term Scientist by abandoning the fundamental roots of the profession.
-Use the name of an Organization of International repute to make people question on what kind of people are being allowed to work in such prestigious organization.
-Bad mouth the entirety of INDIAN ANCESTRY(which also include your own kin -_-)

A Three point strike. Next time, i hope sir, that you would think about what you speak before you actually speak. And being a Scientist at ISRO doesn’t automatically make you an expert in the field of Aeronautics. Because what you know, what you are researching, what you hypothesize on…. EVERYTHING came from someone else. Supposedly, someone in the future makes a discovery that makes what we are working on right now look like a blind dog barking up the wrong tree, then your statement above? It automatically also includes you in the list of Idiots and fools. Remember sir, No one is a fool. It’s our perspective and point of view that differ. Nothing else. Oh by the way, I’m an Engineering student. One who failed in his subjects. Yet i know my roots. I question some of our olden beliefs such as the practice of Sati and such as well, but i NEVER disrespect the people of old. Because whatever they might have done, whatever they COULD have done but DIDN’T… In the end, they are still our Ancestors and Seniors. If someone had dismissed ZERO as a folk lore or ramblings of an idiot(i mean come on, a number that has no value? why do we even need it then?), Earth might have either reached a far higher form of advancement through another path of research or would still be stuck in a Steampunk-ish era.

As a last note, What happened to all of that knowledge and technology and development? You answered it yourself. Invasion. India and invasion are synonymous throughout recorded history. You might feel like arguing but just answer me this-A thief breaks into your house. He notices a pair of used slippers, a huge curved TV and a diamond studded wristwatch. What do you think he’ll take first? The wristwatch obviously. Now he leaves after grabbing the watch. Then a second thief comes after a little bit and all he sees are the slippers and the TV so he somehow huffs and pants and manages to steal the TV. In the morning, when you wake up, what’s left in your home? The used pair of slippers. That’s what happened to the nation. If you are of a different mind, I’m open for a debate. Or anyone else in that matter. I’ll be checking in here once every week.

Gayathri Ananth
· April 7, 2017 at 07:10

Honourable admin and discussers!

First of all, I am happy to find this page. Though I did not go through every single line of the article and that of the comments and replies, I can observe that the arguements are based on the narrations in ancient (Indian) epics and the requirement of solid evidences to claim the authenticity of the same.

I always have an immense respect towards the ever advancing modern science and technology which has been increasing the ease factor and efficacy in human life, besides helping the global communities to get closer through faster networks of communication and conveyance. It is pretty much true that for any common man, physical evidence is a must for him to believe in something. At this point, I would like to emphasis on one obvious fact; that obvious fact being ‘our modern science is continuously evolving and has not yet reached the point of absolute perfection or saturation’. We often find that yesteryear’s theories are either complimented or rejected by today’s inventions. So there is no point in stating that all that is ‘not understandable or acknowledegeable by the current stature of modern science’ are myths.

We should not forget that Heinrich Schliemman, the pioneer in archaeology, could achieve what he is now famous for, only because of his unshakable faith in the so called ‘mythologies’ Iliad and Odyssey. Similarly, in India, now we have archaeological approval for the existence of the ancient city of Dwaraka, mentioned in Mahabharata (Indian epic). The references to the ancient trade relationship between the Tamils and Romans, found in Sangam literature (ancient Tamil literature), now have archaeological proof. Not to forget that the mythical river Saraswathi’s existence is now proven on the basis of solid and extensive scientific research. The ‘Lost land mass of the Tamil civilization’ that was once connected to the southern most parts of Indian subcontinent(time and again mentioned in Sangam literature), was or rather is still thought to be an imaginary legend; but ‘Orissa’ Balu, a researcher, claims that his research in the Indian ocean has revealed that there indeed is/are submerged land(s) beyond the shores of Kanya-Kumari.

With the invention of computer, our science and technology are advancing with an unimaginable pace and precision. Still, I personally feel that it may take a minimum of another 50 to 100 yrs for our modern science to completely acknowledege the ancient epics as true historical records of our world’s so called ‘prehistorical period’. In my observation, perhaps, we need a much more holistic approach (involving extensive travel, study and documentation of whatever is of antiquity) equipped with scientific explorations, correlations and wide spread communications to acknowledge the authenticity of ancients texts.

indian
· January 3, 2017 at 11:28

Sravanth
· December 13, 2016 at 14:51

Its obvious or not whether,so called WRIGHT Brothers inverted aircraft, there are evidences the famous Scientist, Painter, Architect whatever we call him, its insufficient to describe him, he is Leonardo DaVinci, who drew & painted pictures of Aircrafts, flying machines in his time..
Its obvious that he had vision about future, apart from that, he drew pictures of flying soccer (people around pointing tht UFO) in his days..
Everything ia conspirency in this world for us, but we have to agree that our world is full of mysterious then & now..

Malli
· December 7, 2016 at 10:05

Malli
· December 7, 2016 at 10:00

But, if this is really true,then we would be taking steps backwards! (Theoretically speaking). So until we find out any more evidence, we should focus on the fact that this epic,true or not, teaches good values that we should all follow; for example, not wasting your time arguing about things like most of the people here!? I am only 11years old and I had to realize this! Plus, the book is so good and if you don’t know who Urmila is, you shouldn’t even be on this website!?

Dear Malli, thank you for your comments although I am unsure if they were meant for me.

we should focus on the fact that this epic,true or not, teaches good values that we should all follow

Which epic are you referring to? If you mean Vaimānika Shāstra, well, people are claiming it is a technical manual describing flying machines which could actually be built. It isn’t though, but if you wish see a deeper meaning in it you are free to do so. Don’t expect other people to agree with you.

if you don’t know who Urmila is, you shouldn’t even be on this website!

VINOD CHANDRAMOHAN RADHA
· November 15, 2016 at 13:24

You can sense (see or hear, smell, taste or feel the proof of) only what the supernaturals want you to. There is more to it than what we sense. Let me give you a witty example, nobody might know who their, Fourth Great Grandfather was or his name, that doesn’t mean there was no one as such. Yeah science works on proof but belief works on faith.
What do you have to say about the 5000 year old city discovered in India (submerged).

Dear Vinod, thank you for your comments. I think you have made a good point. Every single human being has had great grandparents whether their details are known or not, so claiming I have great grandparents is an assertion that doesn’t need evidence. On the other hand, claiming that astonishing technology existed in only a single region of the world thousands of years ago without leaving a trace to be found is an assertion that needs a lot of evidence before it can be accepted.

A 5000 year old city is not impossible, after all Jericho is believed to have existed for about 11 000 years but I note that the reality of sunken ruins in the Gulf of Khambhat is debated and not widely supported. I would also point out that even supporters of the site’s existence claim it to be a typical late neolithic settlement and not any kind of centre of high-technology.

there are lots of facts and evidences for our past that are neglected due to lack of knowledge and understanding. scientists are working and have found many of so called Indian mythical stories are true and all such mythical characters really existed in past. Their technologies were simple (can be launched from bow and arrows), less harmful to environment but were much powerful and advanced than now. scientists today are re-searching (working on the work that were already existed/found). The VEDA also known as first book in HINDU texts are the base of every technology that exist today (even NASA and MIT also studying to find new technology) we today don’t understand the text in the VEDAS as they were written in Ancient SANSKRIT language. if I start talking of ancient technologies it will take me whole day to highlight a little of it.

coming back to point in around India much before industrial revolution we have texts that describes the use of Mercury as fuel for ancient Vimanas that were able to travel interstate, intercountry and interplanet. These Vimanas were laced with stealth technology were used in wars.

scientists in modern days tried to implement Mercury Vapour Engine and made a flying object, it went high in sky (that shows ancient flying Indian theories were not wrong) but explode after some time. scientists some of ancient concepts in now used Ion engines for movement in space.

India’s ancient theories are huge pool of real knowledge but due to modern industrial revolution and westernization we are lacking this knowledge, many of modern scientists, researchers and solars have quoted slokas/hymns/references form Vedas and other Indian texts.

rock
· October 27, 2016 at 09:34

Dear Rock, thank you for you comments, but are you sure that your argument is valid? India has been an independent nation for nearly 70 years, even if there was a British conspiracy to cover up evidence of ancient flying machines, surely archeologists working since then ought to have dug up some of it since then.

Remember too, the only source of these stories is the Vaimãnika Shastra, but as the article says this is modern document created in the twentieth century, not a sample of ancient writings.

Ravana
· October 29, 2016 at 09:32

Amit Vaid
· April 7, 2019 at 21:20

Where you AGAIN calling Vaimanika Shaastra a modern document? You are fully aware that it was decoded and based on Vedas and Vedas are NOT modern documents.

Ok, answer one thing… Mercury worked as fuel and electricity was needed too..NASA discontinued ONLY because NASA does not know how to control harmful effects and used XERON. Why are these exact two things mentioned in Vaimanika Shaastra? I mean a combination of Mercury and Electricity….

If you can say that ancient civilizations did not know how to make flying machines, others can say that NASA actually was able to solve half the puzzle and managed to tap fuel capabilities provided by combination of Mercury and electricity.. But was not able to solve how to control harmful effects.. Now please don’t say that it is impossible to control harmful effects as someday may be humankind will be able to find a solution for that

Saying something is hard to prove is another thing…. Saying that it never could have even happened (which is basically your tone) is like being narrow minded and not being broad minded to accept that anything is possible… After all if I had told someone 200 years ago about mobiles and laptops I would have faced the same… So I will say… May be… I just need proof… But I will never SUMMARILY REJECT any… And I mean any possibility… More so in the light that ancient texts and stories all over the world talk about flying machines… Da Vinci imagined it… And may be thousands others too as is evidenced by reference to them… And when you dream about something… Next step is to make it.. Isn’t it… May be ancients succeeded.. May be not… But no summary rejection here… We have lots of proof anyways ALL OVER THE WORLD to reject the summary rejection

Seeker
· October 16, 2016 at 18:18

I would also like to add a few things my fellow Indians forgot to mention.
Indians used rockets for warfare. Even NASA accetps that – https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-NASAs-head-office-holds-a-picture-of-Tipu-Sultan-at-its-entrance
While Americans and Europeans search for Atlantis there are a few Indian Scholars who believe a continent called “Kumari Kandam” குமாரி கண்டம்(TAMIL-One of the world’s oldest languages on the sidelines of Greek Mandarin Latin and Sanskrit) is the ATLANTIS. You can google it.
If the Indian Goverment had shown any interest in these facts shared on the comment section, Indian Sceince will not only be taken to the world but also definitely can be used in modern day inventions. This is the reason why Indians wish to go outside the borders of India for research. On the other hand Europeans and Americans afre more interested in ancient Roman or Egyptian or Chinese cultures rather than Indian. I am sure Ancient Indian Science and Culture would make better hollywood stories than the ones we have now. We look forward to research minds from outside India to the world.

Dear Seeker, thank you for your comments. I agree that Indian achievements in science and engineering have been unfairly overlooked. Bombardment by Indian rockets came as a nasty surprise to the British in the 1700s, and these weapons were so novel that captured examples were back-engineered into the Congreve rockets used against Napoleon and the Americans in the early 1800s. Sadly though there is no evidence for ancient flying machines in India (or anywhere else).

Seeker
· October 16, 2016 at 18:03

Dear Admin, I admire your patience in answering the queries. One cannot find concrete evidence to all the facts said in Indian Scriptures. The reason is a system of ancient schools called Gurukulas. Here kids from various parts of the kingdom, irrespective of their rank in the society and without revealing their identity(for security concerns), spend most of their adolescence learning arts and science. All the facts were passed on to the students through teachings of their gurus. Vedas were taught and Sages and Saints added more facts and philosophy during thier lifetime too. Vedas were the holiest of scriptures known to Indians therefore preserved through milleniums through this Guru-Shishya(Teacher-Student) system. Its obvious one could not find evidence for those facts. Even if they survived through a script (or evidence of some other form) they were destroyed by repeated invasions throughout Indian History by Muslims and Europeans especially the ones found in Hindu Temples. So when you ask for proof or evidences Indians are literally empty handed in most of the cases. Even if they say something they are ridiculed.

Jes
· September 10, 2016 at 16:49

Before every scientist discovered or invented something people said it was impossible.. So did the other scientists..likewise I believe someday someone will prove all these things are true and that day people like admin will change sides…

Pushkar
· October 5, 2016 at 08:42

What is science? You thoughts are just stuck to the word ‘Science’. The real science can not be kept away from Philosophy. There is point in universe where science has to merge into Vedanta.

Evidence is nothing but proven existence. And your blog deals with theories which still to be proved they exist. And dear admin you always ask for evidence. We humans believe to explore unexplored. Not the already evident and well known. No significance lesser valuable.

By the way you started your blog writing Ravana had a Vimana. correction Admin actually Pushpak Vimana belonged to Kuber, the half brother of Ravana. And Kuber had lots of Vimana with him. Ram after conquering Sri Lanka came back to his kingdom Ayodhya on same Pushpak Vimana. Which was later returned to Kubera again.

Hinduism is only source of science on this planet. Its history is more than 9000 years old. For this lot of evidences are present. Perfectly evident by NASA, Tesla, Germans, Russians. Find out

Dear Pushkar, thank you for clearly expressing your point. Once again though, you are missing the point which is assertions without evidence can be rejected. I am happy if you strongly believe flying machines existed thousands of years ago, but if you want me or other readers to believe this too you need evidence.

I think you need to look at what a scientific theory is. Briefly, a theory is an explanation of facts or phenomena repeatedly confirmed by evidence or experiments, it is not a guess or a claim or just a belief that something is true.

Thushara
· December 19, 2019 at 06:53

prasanth
· August 19, 2016 at 09:30

I read this but you want to know admin history in India exists over 20,000 years ago …da vinchi sketches are done by the vimana sastra and so many treasurey books taken from here during invasion even england queen crown diamond belong to India science civilization everything evolved here…our former President APJ Abdul kalam missile man designed nucleor weapon by using a book by agasitaya a Tamil poet written before 5000 years ago he also mentioned way to stop the radiation have ever thought about nuclear weapon before 5000 years ago …it was mentioned by our President … we have so much technology it can be seen from temples in India if you see them you won’t need any evidence …

PARTH
· August 14, 2016 at 10:27

DEAR ADMIN
TODAY’s SCIENCE CHANGES FROM TIME TO TIME .
500 YEARS AGO WHEN LEONARDO & GALELIO STATES THAT EARTH IS NOT THE CENTRE OF SOLAR SYSTEM .
THEY BOTH WERE WRONG ACCORDING TO SCIENCE PRESENT AT THAT TIME BUT were they realy wrong?
ANSWER IS ‘NO’. SO TODAY’S SCIENCE AND INDIAN HISTORY WERE ALL ACCORDING TO BRITISH ASSUMPTION.
IF 300 YEARS AGO SOMEONE SAYES THAT THEIR ARE VIMANS IN OUR INDIA . MERCURY ENGINES ARE PRESENT ALEREADY THAN NOONE BELEIEVE THEM.
BUT TODAY NASA HAD MADE SUCH THINGS SO WE START BELEVIENG ON THAT . WE INDIANS ALWAYS WANT CERTIFICATE FROM FOREIGNERS THAT WE ARE WRIGHT OR WRONG?.
IN PAST NO ONE BELEVIES THAT A PERSON CAN CURE HIMSELF WITHOUT TAKING MEDICINES AND SURGERY BUT WITH THE GROWTH OF KNIWLEDGE OF YOGA EVERYONE ARE GOING TO BELEIVE IT
I AM DAM SURE THAT IF ALL OF THIS TECHNOLOGIES ARE PRESENT IN AMERICA ALL WORLD WILL BLINDLY ACCEPT THIS WITHOUT ANY QUESTION.
AND IF YOU WANT PROFF OF OUR INDIAN RITUALS AND SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE( astrology . palm astrology. making tilak at forehead.and many rituals and our vedic scientific invention).
THEN PLEASE FOLLOW THE SITE OF ‘ american istitute of vedic science’.
AND IF YOU WANT PROFF ON VEDIC VIMANS THAN PLEASE GO ON GIVEN LINK
THAT SHOW VIMAN FOUND IN AFGHANISTHANhttp://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1432.htm

Justsaying
· August 11, 2016 at 05:37

Hahahaha… admin is too reluctant to accept the suggestions and asking for citations and references and bla blah blah.. So If you want the evidences I suggest you to read vedas first. Maybe you may not accept even then because you ask for proofs on the internet even for the Vedas. So I would suggest you to move from internet of things to history of things, everything is not available on internet. Internet is too young to written scripts. You might not understand the vedas because they were written in Sanskrit.

Dear Justsaying, thank you for your comments. I am not sure if you understand that science demands evidence. People claim that exotic aerospace technology existed on Earth thousands of years ago. If that is true there must be evidence such as archeological remains of these flying machines and their support equipment and manufacturing plants , traces of their exhaust products in polar ice etc. So where is this evidence?

I will also repeat here that my goal is not to criticise anyone’s religious beliefs, so I hope I have said nothing here that seems to do so. If I have said anything like this it was not deliiberate and I apologise. However to the best of my knowledge the Vaimãnika Shastra is not part of the Vedas having been published in the twentieth century and as a purported technical document can be subject to critical analysis.

vg
· March 8, 2018 at 21:50

Dear Admin,
You are asking for evidence again and again. Its obvious that you have decided NOT to listen to anybody.
Its time you watched the telivision series “ANCIENT ALIENS”. This is a western production who are have tried to ignore anything Indian but are unable to explain the existence of Dwaraka and Gulf of Khambat and they are unable to understand the technology used in construction of these dwellings.
It is unfortunate that important scripts / documentation about Indian history etc was destroyed by Muslims invaders and what was left was looted by the British.
They took away the Ayurveda because they wanted to make money using their “allopathy”.
Ask any Medical doctor and he will say that the knowledge was “GIVEN to them” but they put a brave face quoting “Science and research”. This is proof enough that better technology EXISTED.

Amit Vaid
· April 7, 2019 at 21:44

Dear Admin… There is an iron pillar in New Delhi, India. It has not corroded for centuries. Does your present day science has explanation?

Just read the Vedas first. You will be surprised.

So, it is a mystery whether ancients anywhere ever possessed technology to make flying machines but you also can it say it never happened. What EVIDENCE do you have, admin, that such technology NEVER existed… Unless if you have been monitoring each and every event on earth since the beginning of the earth?

Sudipt
· August 9, 2016 at 04:05

i
· August 1, 2016 at 00:40

There is a lot of knowledge, that has been shut down, to keep humanity in the dark. Yes they had beam ships that could travel among the stars the people were more advanced than we are today, for thousands of years we have been held in the dark of ignorance reinforced by so called universities which is really another form of brain washing. For humanity to understand the true reality first we have to set ourselves free, from this false reality No longer will the power elite be able to keep us in the dark by fear, false belief systems such as religions, etc. I time must come and it is now for millions to wake up, then we will move forward at a fantastic speed. Imagine a world where there are no wars, no misery, no sickness, no one would ever age, we would all stay healthy and young. be able to meet other beings on distant worlds, not be bound to a false economy where a hand full profit and the rest starve. Humanity ha no idea of how free they should be. When people stop being sheep and stop believing the lies and do their own research into to the true nature of reality, then there will be a sudden turn around. At the moment many are trapped and the globalists know it, and intend to keep it that way, because it serves their agenda. The world should be free no wars, no religions which wee designed to entrap you.

Arun Dagar
· July 27, 2016 at 00:48

Dear Admin, If you are saying this all is just a myth will you please explain us more about “Dark night” satellite… Its 13000 years old and still in our earth polar orbit and still you are thinking its all just a myth lets us know how we hindus knows 5000 years ago about the distance between earth and sun. Which is explained in our “HANUMAN CHALISA” Google it and there is more and more things which USA OR RUSSIAN scienctist never gonna know.

Rajath KM
· July 13, 2016 at 11:40

Namaste

First i like to thank author for such fantastic information. Its happy to see light been throne on our precious shastras,
Ancient Indian science becoming more curious day by day as archeology findings finding more evidence technology mentioned in shastras. Aeronautical engineering as mentioned in “Vimanika shatra” is mind blowing. A scientist from southern India able to harness nature’s energy he called it “Space vortex”. A electric generator give more than 230% efficacy uses this principle and break so many laws of physics. I think this is similar kind of energy source described in wed used for vimanas, but not sure. He patented this and disclosed to industry. He made me to believe Shastra, become inspiration for me to follow his path and make contribution to science and bring glory to country and bring better tech for mankind.

Rav
· November 11, 2017 at 20:33

Sharad Yadav
· July 7, 2016 at 11:58

Hello ! Dear admin,
I’m a molecular biology scholar and my research areas are also belongs to Human Evolution and The origin of the Universe, Genomics of Human Evolution and other aspects of Human Genomics. I’m always updated with NASA and CERN’s undergoing researches.

(Content removed. Unfortunately I cannot see the relevance of your speculations to this article so I suggest you find another venue to publish them. ADMIN)

Goutam Samanta
· June 10, 2016 at 11:41

May be it is true that some ancient civilizations were much more technologically advanced than us.
May be it is true that RAVANA/Viswakarma had built the first aeroplane on Earth.
May be it is true that some VIMANIKA SHASTRA is actually true.(you can find some details in the linkhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/A-flight-over-Chowpatty-that-made-history/pmredirectshow/890055.cms?curpg=2)
May be it is possible that all these ancient scriptures/knowledge and stories were all imported from different places
We do not have any tangible evidence(which we can touch and feel or do experiment), Right?
All the thing we can just imagine because we can not go to the past to see what actually happened at that time.
As because we can not confirm say why some of the strangest(to modern human) ancient architectures(be it a temple now or be it some pyramids or stones etc.) were built and what was their actual purpose. We will never say confirm until we build
a time machine.
Regarding the use of mercury, it may be true that it had some use in ancient times.May be it is what NASA now wants to experiment on . So what? what is the point of discussion here?
May be Every technology, Every science, Every religion takes some references from others and build things/stories/sciences around it . So what is wrong in it?

Do we have any proof that all these ancient writings (may be hindu,tamil,grrek,buddhist or may be colombian or christian)
were not copied from something else and re-written/re-structured/re-constructed/re-published/re-circulated from other different sources?

And also regarding the Ancient Aliens theory, Eric Von Daniken had asked many questions, not answered those. As a scientific
mind , I am considering those questions very seriously and I can only imagine on what ever would be the possibilities.
It is not that the case that if you do not find any logic , you should bring a Alien or God .
To me , if you do not have any answer , keep quite and let be it a mystery rather than explaining it with the basis of your imagination. Yes , you can explain/say whatever you feel but that does not mean that you are true and everyone should acknowledge you.About this , I imagine it was the same feelings of the world when Copernicus/Galileo revolted against the already established/acknowledged theories. And my view is that we always tend to follow some assumptions/imaginations which is/was regarded as true by maximum people. In ancient era, it was Religion, Now, it is Science although both are based on experimentally possible assumptions.(It is entirely my own personal view)

Coming back to the point of discussion,
My believe is that I can not say someone is not taking any references from something else as long as I am not that someone.

Dear Nia, thank you for your response, but this website you have linked to is not any respected news media source. How do you know what it is saying is true? It doesn’t offer any supporting evidence. Are you sure this story is not just a retelling of the 2008 science fiction film The Objective ?

Dear admin, I don’t know whether it is true or false cz I’M not a science student n also hvnt see that movie yet . M just a curious person who found this article on net. I want to ask you one question it is not related to this topic but still i’m asking. Why feb. Is of 28 n 29 days…. not jan, mar, n any other month. Is it related to earth axis or rotation…..?

Dear Nia, thank you for your question. Leap days are added to February as the Earth’s year is not exactly 365 days long, it is closer to 365.25 days long. If we said every year was 365 or 366 days long, over the centuries the seasons would go out of sync with the months. To prevent this the practice of scheduling a leap day every fourth year was introduced. This is added to February since Roman times.

The full story about this is complicated but briefly the original Roman calendar (which was based more on politics than astronomy) had 355 days and ended in February. This would rapidly cause the seasons to shift, so every two years February was split into two halves with an extra month in the middle giving a year of 377 or 378 days long. In the first century BCE the Julian calendar which is much more modern with a 365 day year, 28 day February and every four years a leap day between February and March was inserted. By medieval times in Europe the leap day was added to February as February 29th and this has continued when the Gregorian Calendar used today was introduced.

Janine Raybaud
· May 21, 2016 at 22:55

Thank you, all the people of India who have commented here to counter the opinion of the author. I have learned so much, thank you for all the amazing information! I don’t mean any disrespect, dear author of this article. I know you will find this another ridiculous comment, but I will make it anyway. Do you believe that is an actual photograph you have posted of the Dawn spacecraft with the dwarf planet Ceres? Personally I find it much easier to believe there was ancient technology that was more advanced that today’s technology (or the technology that the gen pop is allowed to know about anyway) than it is to believe that is an actual photograph. Thanks for the article!

Dear Janine, thank you for your comments. The “Dawn at Ceres” image is clearly a stylised rather than realistic artwork and this seemed so obvious that we did not think it was worth noting this (especially as the article was published before Dawn actually reached Ceres). To avoid any possible misunderstanding I shall amend the caption.

I do take exception to your claim about the “opinions of the author”, this a factual article, not an opinion piece. If you can find anything that is not based on fact in this article let us know and the article will be changed to reflect that. Science is about evidence, bring fresh evidence to the table and we will update this to reflect the new knowledge.

Mellow
· March 30, 2016 at 07:21

Sivakumar
· March 30, 2016 at 06:12

Dear Admin,

Hats off to your patience. Keep your good work going on.

Dear fellow Indians,

I’m a proud Indian and I really love to see uncovered texts and its real meanings. To add credibility to any advanced technology described in our ancient texts or inscriptions, we first need to uncover the texts and practically implement the methods and prove the references.

Without doing that It’s immature to just cite things we read and hear around. If we really want to take pride from our culture and history, its vital to prove its credibility.

Please take my comment in positive way and work something constructive rather than being silent spectators and take false pride.

NR
· March 17, 2016 at 02:51

Amit
· March 17, 2016 at 01:32

I am from India and all I want to say to the admin is that you have an extraordinary amount of patience!

Almost all the comments here made by my fellow countrymen are profoundly lacking in – credible citations, logical consistency, scientific rigour, and are quite cringeworthy to say the least. These people are no better than those bible thumping zealots who believe the earth to be 6000 years old.

Yet you have patiently addressed each one of them, it’s really commendable.

and listen to this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QF4VbjT8M0 ( this video series is an attempt to teach most complex part of buddhism – abhidharma in a simplified manner. at minimum you will at-least gain a deeper insight into universe, matter, life and you will be amazed how comprehensive and detailed these teachings are, and realize why flying is not all that important at all!!!).

Mohanraj
· March 6, 2016 at 17:40

If Indian knowledge about vedas is wrong then why did NASA take the vedas, Ramayana, Mahabharatha, Panchaanga book to US. Why don’t NASA just accept that they come to know about when will solar eclipse gonna happen by reffering to Panchanga books.
In Ramayana the Ramaa setu is there. Even now its there. Its made of special rock which is not available in the whole world. If western people do researches and proove its correct then its correct. If we people do researches and proove its correct even then its wrong. Why so?
Atlantis city is not yet discovered. But western people still say it exist. Great fiction.
But Dwaraka nagar of Lord Krishna is under water and is prooved fact.
Western country has no history like we Indians have.
When middle East countries attacked India it is said that many of our ancient universities were destroyed which contained lots of books of vedas and many knowledge.
We Indians have now come to know what knowledge we have from our ancestors. So it’s our duty to protect all the ancient knowledge and books. Otherwise it will happen like how during independence how british took away the precious Kohinoor daimond from India. Atleast now we can take care of all these books and knowledge we have.

Arul
· February 28, 2016 at 14:15

Scientific quest doesn’t mean negating or accepting things blindly. Many of our friends just exhibit their pride of our culture more instead of putting forth evidences for their claim that ancient Indian or Tamil culture had most advanced flying objects. One cannot blindly accept the excuse that all the scientific evidences were destroyed during the 300 years of Brirish rule. How then did the Vedic scriptures survived? Don’t they have any concrete evidence to prove the world about our ancient scientific advancements. Who else would have more pride than we if we are proved to be a more advanced race in the earth?

Joseph Mosijowsky
· February 26, 2016 at 07:55

When the UFO’S come down from the sky’s. Not giving man a chance to wipe the dust off his eyes. That’s the day the earth will be through. Don’t worry my man of few That’s the day the earth will be new. BY Joseph Mosijowsky

Jeet
· February 6, 2016 at 17:06

Maurya Brijesh
· January 29, 2016 at 09:26

Devotee are not feel science and fact…. And that is main causes that India ‘s talente not stay here in India for doing well wishing for his/ her country research and development department…. And India talent escape from India….!! Devotee Crowds here in…India are dangerous for research and development and also for democracy

Ashutosh
· January 11, 2016 at 09:02

If something is found in written.it doesnt mean it is onli litreary work.in afganistan,5000 thousand years old vimana found.8 us militant disappear removing this vimana.after that world leaders visited afganistan.what would say about this??

Ashish Jha
· December 8, 2015 at 09:15

Thanks Admin,

This article is quite interesting.
Can you please explain me the mechanism of “mercury Vortex engine” ?
I am bit curious about what happens to gaseous mercury, how those magnets separates the ions ?
Can you please throw some light?

Julius
· December 2, 2015 at 12:26

I am from Sri Lanka can you please change EMPEROR RAVANA’S picture you have in this websites this pictures is only used to explain how power full he is.

If you need a proper picture I can email you.
King Ravana is from SRI LANKA we have enough evidence to prove that, we are now exploring most of the evidences. If you are interested please let me know I can send you more info about KING RAVANA.

siva
· December 1, 2015 at 18:50

RAJEEV KUMAR
· November 30, 2015 at 14:49

thanks admin to rediscovered the thing..but one thing i want to share that pushapak viman was not created or possessed by king ravan..it was forcibly captured by lord kuber..which is treasurer of lord indra.and lord kuber was brother of Ravan..as it is maintioned in vedas.. actually pushapak viman was created or manufactured by lord chitragupta who is hindu god for architecture and engioneering,,so i think that the inventer of viman was lord chitragupta…in our hindu text it is written that when temperature of sun become very heavy..lord chitragupta made three things from the energy of sun..trishul(weopen of lord shiv),sudarshan chakra(weopen of lord vishnu), and pushapak viman.. so we indian believes that these things are made by our ancient scientist..thanks

RAJEEV KUMAR
· January 4, 2016 at 05:14

dear admin..here i want to correct my previeous post that this was not lord chitragupta..it was lord vishawakarma,the hindu god of architecture and engeneering..so according that the inventer and manufacturer of viman(aeroplane) was lord vishawakarma…verify by hindu text ved and puran..check it..

Robert Venuto
· July 26, 2016 at 23:53

Robert Venuto
· July 26, 2016 at 23:56

Robert Venuto
· July 27, 2016 at 00:04

Robert Venuto
· July 27, 2016 at 00:07

I have one comment for this ( scientific entity )
We live in a universe of infinite possibility.
Our inability to understand natural phenomenon
Certainly doesn’t negate it’s existence .
Surely The time space continuum
Had been proposed by spiritual sages
But not accepted by science until 15 years
After Einsteins drafts –
Science takes the position of reductive reasoning
as method , fine for the Macro world a fiasco
For the quantum . Which we now find our selves in .
Certainly Einsteins : Imagination is more important than knowledge
Puts us in the right direction as approach .
Super crunch computers will be able to replicate but never
Superceed human imagination which in alpha state .
Their not human biologic entities .
Though science has worked hard on the dangerous
Concept of the PSYBORG-

Robert Venuto
· July 27, 2016 at 00:16

I have one comment for this ( scientific entity )
We live in a universe of infinite possibility.
Our inability to understand natural phenomenon
Certainly doesn’t negate it’s existence .
Surely The time space continuum
Had been proposed by spiritual sages
But not accepted by science until 15 years
After Einsteins drafts –
Science takes the position of reductive reasoning
as method , fine for the Macro world a fiasco
For the quantum . Which we now find our selves in .
Certainly Einsteins : Imagination is more important than knowledge
Puts us in the right direction as approach .
Super crunch computers will be able to replicate but never
Superceed human imagination which in alpha state .
Has access to other dimensional realms , the Akashic record
And the spirit world .
Their not human biologic entities . ( But Reductive reasoners )
Proven Concepts and realities still Criticized
By reductionist of mainstream science. And their ( dogmatic) precept.
To name a few :
Remote viewing – Ingo swan – Stanford university
Past lives – Dr Ian Stevensen
The Akashic record – Edgar Casey
Astrology – Dr Carl Gustavo Jung ( On Synchronicity (
Psychometry – Dr EDGAR Mitchell
Psychic phenomenon “. ”
Trance channeling “. ”
To quote Einstein :
Spirituality without science is lame .
Science without spirituality is lame.
I’ll take the latter !

Surely The time space continuum
Had been proposed by spiritual sages
But not accepted by science until 15 years
After Einsteins drafts –

I will need good evidence before I accept this as true. Ambiguous metaphysical metaphors are not the same as a testable scientific theory.

Science takes the position of reductive reasoning
as method , fine for the Macro world a fiasco
For the quantum . Which we now find our selves in .

This is not correct, why do you think it is? Every experiment in quantum mechanics or device which exploits quantum mechanics was designed to use or test this field of knowledge use scientific principles. I know there are people who want to think that quantum mechanics is magical but at best this is childish ignorance, at worst a dishonest attempt to support supernatural beliefs.

Superceed human imagination which in alpha state .
Has access to other dimensional realms , the Akashic record
And the spirit world .

There is no convincing evidence that any of these things are real phenomena.

Spirituality without science is lame .
Science without spirituality is lame.

This is a misquote, the correct version is

“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”

Einstein wrote a lot, and you can find quotes to support just about anything in his non-scientific works. The same year (1954) as he wrote those words quoted above, Einstein wrote

“The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weakness, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still purely primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation, no matter how subtle, can change this for me.”

and

“The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge.”

K Prabhakar
· November 29, 2015 at 10:35

Dear Admin,
First offal sorry for asking questions about medicine based. And my name is Prabhakar and my title is K, if you calls me K Prabhakar, I feel very happy.
2. You are giving the reference of Hollywood movies, which are imaginary. If we takes them in to count, then people will give us references of bollywood, tollywood & koliwood references where there are lot of movies about Ramayana & Mahabharata. As for as documentation concern, then ‘Rig Veda’, Ramayana & Mahabharstha already writen before thousands of years, which is not accepted by both of us. If NASA or any other institution is not able to control the mercury’s and sesum’s high radio active and toxins, it does’t meen that the are not useful. Moreover, impulse rate of mercury (beem diameter is 10cm- 5000) is grater than xenon(beem diameter is13cm -2565). Which is currently in use of NASA’s space missions. Please comment.
3. I want to give you some references of existing of vimanas in ancient times ie., Photographs of flying obects of ancient sights (not from India) of Egypt. Can we take them to count or not please comment.
4. There is a rock structure found to archiologists’ of Germany at Jupiter temple in Lebanon (not in India) belongs to 7000 BC. Which is weighing 1600+ tons approx. Most intresting this is, the rock was crafted from all sides perfectly to rectangular. If we think about it, how much machinery is requited in these days to lift and craft it and how did they done those days. It’s seems technology in the ancient times also too good inough ( please don’t say that this is not pertains to aeronautics science or space science as science and machinery is completely connected to each other). Please see this wesite -ancient-origins.net/news-genera… ( which is definitly not an Indian invention). Please give some clarification to me.
5. You answered one of my questions that ‘ some parts are sub standard, and 100% checking of them is not possible, which may causes to the failure of missions(Why?). One more thing, it means NASA sents their missions on their fate. Without properly checking them, I may be (because I already told you that I am half beliver of god and quarter beliver of science) agree with you but NASA never be. (I think proper tests will be done even before sending their new type of componet machies/ rockets into the space.) It’s means some times mistakes may occure by both i,e., man and machines, it’s not sounds good and not the correct answer for my question because scince doesn’t approves ‘some times yes some times no’. Please clarify.

Dear K Prabhakar, thank you for your comments. Unfortunately I do not understand many of your points. For example I do not see what you mean in your movie comments.

Moreover, impulse rate of mercury (beem diameter is 10cm- 5000) is grater than xenon(beem diameter is13cm -2565). Which is currently in use of NASA’s space missions. Please comment.

As mentioned in the article, xenon is used in NASA’s ion thrusters instead of mercury because mercury is so toxic and difficult to clean up that the lower efficiency of xenon is still preferable.

There is a rock structure found to archiologists’ of Germany at Jupiter temple in Lebanon (not in India) belongs to 7000 BC. Which is weighing 1600+ tons approx. Most intresting this is, the rock was crafted from all sides perfectly to rectangular. If we think about it, how much machinery is requited in these days to lift and craft it and how did they done those days.

The stone block you refer to is not dated to 7000BC, but from the 1st century BC. It is in a quarry used at that time by Roman engineers and cut by the same techniques used across Europe by the Romans. We know that Romans and other ancient peoples used rollers, ramps, levers etc to move blocks 500 tons plus in weight, presumably they hoped to do the same here. This stone is in no way evidence for extraterrestrial visitations. Questions about history and archeology would be better addressed to experts in those fields.

I still do not understand what you are really asking with your queries on manufacturing and testing. Rockets, spacecraft and all their components are tested as thoroughly as is feasible. Testing of components is done to specifications which say how much testing is acceptable based on, among other things, the cost of testing compared to the cost of failure and the estimated probability of failure. 100% testing is pretty well impossible.

Please remember, this comments section is for discussing the articles on our blog, it is not just for posting general questions on topics that interest you.

nimal
· August 17, 2016 at 18:47

Dear Nimal, yes, exactly, mercury is horribly toxic and difficult to clean up. Even decontaminating after laboratory testing was unaffordable. There were probably worries about mercury being scattered across the environment if the launch vehicle exploded too.

K Prabhakar
· November 27, 2015 at 02:21

diamondblue
· November 26, 2015 at 03:19

Hi. It is very interesting debate. I am from India, but never believed the theory of Vimanas. Yet, I just saw the documentary on Netflix on Ancient Aliens, which repeatedly quoted book on Vimanas by Bhardwaj. Therefore, I felt probably some credence needs to be given. But you have clarified its origin, and I thank you for that. The whole series of 14 episodes was impressive in the beginning, when some facts were presented on impossibility of some constructions in the past without alien help. Yet, as you progress through the series of episodes, it appears to be humbug and defies logic. Still, I am wondering what is mercury vortex engines as Hitler too used some sort of mercury in the world war II.

Dear Diamondblue, thank you for your comments. I’d just like point out that the Ancient Aliens TV show appears to be nonsensical rubbish rather than a respected academic source and all the stories of weird Nazi technology based on mercury were invented by a Polish journalist in the 1990s and elaborated on by others ever since.

Krishnamoorthy S
· November 22, 2015 at 15:56

I missed Shami’s comment. It is a thoughtful response. Of course, it can neither be proven nor disproven. I do agree that then relatively advanced civilisations of South Asia were laid waste by centuries of Moslem and then European invasions. While the Muslims did not succeed in destroying Indian education, the British did suceed quite extensively through Macualay’s project.

I also agree that insistence on accepting only publication in peer reviewed journals as proof will make it impossible to establish the credibility of any “native claims” and suggests chauvinism, if not racism. As many histories of science have shown, South Asian civilisations did possess superior knowledge of mathematics, science and technology. Even if the maths does not meet present day standards of proof and the science does not satisfy present day experimental standards.

However, that is by the by. ,Despite the relative advancement and sophistication of South Asian civilisations during their times, I do not think that it is credible that they had flying machines at their disposal.

Krishnamoorthy S
· November 22, 2015 at 15:39

I came by this article because someone sent me a whatsapp post that made somewhat the very same claims examined in this article. Obviously, I took it with a very big lump of salt, but was intrigued enough to want to check out the provenance of these claims.

I am struck by two things – and AGN has already pointed these out – one, the incredulity of large numbers of supposedly educated of my countrymen (in India, knowledge of English is indicative of some exposure to a modern educational system), and two, the patience and courtesy displayed by Admin in his replies to these persons.

I fear for the future of my country if the mindsets on display here are so widely prevalent.

Darshan
· November 19, 2015 at 18:36

Dear all don’t teach so called scientists they are not come out of material universe. and srilanka was the part of Great Universal hindu Civilisation but Britishers divided Bharat in to More than 23 part.

Sudarshan
· October 5, 2015 at 07:19

Dear Admin

I thank you for your objective analysis based on information that was available to you. Some of my Indian friends above, in their zeal to contradict, have not been fair and objective as you have been. Please overlook their tone and i request you to look further into some of the points raised (or which may still be available but you might have overlooked). I am a believer of science and even i take religigious teachings with a pinch of salt but texts like “Rig Veda” (Please look it up, it is not like “Vaimanika Shatra) is not merely a religious document but a treatise or source of ancient knowledge. Such texts have been unanimously dated to have been written thousands of years ago. Without going into whether Rig veda gives an enabling disclosure (i practice patent law ;)) of an aircraft, I find it very fascinating to see that such documents, dated thousand years old, even talk about ideas such as flight using mercury, heat, solar power. Of course, more evidence is needed to actually find a workable model or disclosure. But do’nt you think that even an idea can be worth some recognition when the same is conceived so many years before any known civilisation existed. I don’t say NASA copied anything because that is not fair. I am saying it is worth exploring (scientifically) as to how such old documents mention almost precisely the fundamental of ‘modern’ ideas as Ion trust engine using mercury propellant? Initially even i rejected such ideas but i came across a paper by some enthusiastic engineering students from india at this link. They do not rely only on “Vaimanik Shastra” but other sources as well. You may note that a lot of references/citations in this paper may have to be independently searched (googled) as you may not have heard of them. http://www.ijeit.com/Vol%204/Issue%203/IJEIT1412201409_08.pdf

Anubhav
· November 11, 2016 at 06:13

I am not sure if that linked paper was genuinely scientific or a good example of confirmation bias. However it does merit some further research. I do think that there were advancements in technical thinking (in the ancient texts) and imagination is always an important leading factor of scientific breakthroughs – However I do not consider H.G. Wells and Albert Einstein to be in the same league. Not even close.

Vamsi
· September 23, 2015 at 14:00

Vamsi
· September 22, 2015 at 21:42

Jst forget abt the Indian culture and all the other traditional mythical everything , Can you westeners or other people who are criticizing that facts that so called rumours explain how the geoglyphs formed and stonehedge now one knows how it formed . There were aliens who we considered the mythical gods and their flying machine everything. Our and your gods all are mythical true as per epics . When there is a fact that is a fact that everyone should believe . For us it Lord shiva on Mount kailash for greeks it is Zeus On Mount Ida . Almost the epic around the world are bit similar.

amar
· September 22, 2015 at 07:28

Ravan vimana( plane) is found in afganistan and it is put inside time well from where it could not be taken out some of us soldiers have been lost removing plane,which runs on vortex engine.
Serch on google its true.

Dear Amar, I believe that you have confused fiction with fact. You seem to be describing the science fiction film The Objective made in 2008, this is definitely fictional, the script was written by Daniel Myrick, Mark A. Patton and Wesley Clark Jr.

Ravindra Singh
· August 28, 2015 at 22:41

Dear Admin,

Many have given you some details about expertise of ancient Indians, but you didn’t beleive because they were unable to provide you with any kind of citation.
Well can provide you one which is still standing on this face of earth.

Go, and search for “IRON PILLAR” in New Delhi it, of which the whole history provides the evidence, was made of NON CORROSIVE IRON PROCESSING, which is still standing without any rust, even in fractional percentage, since many centuries. This is an example of metallurgical expertise.
There is no such fine technology present anywhere in the current world which can replicate the same process, not even with developed nations.
Yes you can process IRON to the purity level of 99.98%, but till 100% no body can.
This is what my fellow brothers were telling about the ancient science of Indian Subcontinent.

Link is also provided. Please shed some disagreement, if you have any.

Dear Ravindra, thank you for your link but I hope you understand that the existence of this example of amazing craftmanship does not prove the twentieth century hoax of ancient flying machines to be true.

By the way, we are in no way denying the rich history of science and technology in India. Astronomers in India built tremendous instruments and observatories, sadly more people seem interested in fantasies and hoaxes than these real achievements.

K Prabhakar
· November 27, 2015 at 02:18

Dear admin, this is my first ever coment on others coment. I don’t know who you are, which counrty you belongs and what religion you believes (or not). As far as my concern I am half believer of god & quarter believer of scince (because we as humans have to prove lot of things). I am completely agree with what you have said. Threre is no existence god all the mythology is imaginary of anicents. I didn’t have vast knowledge peoples like you and who commented on. Just I am a matriculated. But, I have some doubts in my mind which needs clarifications (please help me).

1. Every one has same size of brain (approximately) as per science, but, every persons thoughts are different, even we came from hardly one or two branches of home sapience or something else. Everybodies body’s shapes and sizes are diffrent. Even after biological brothers or sisters and one more thing even their genes are different why?

2. One thing which we both have to agree that only one who have vast knowledge he thinks better than others means valmiki is the person who have that much imagination power to think about vimana’s (flying objects) in thousands of years ago in his written Ramayana. Which still not understood to me, no one think to fly till one or two centuries before. In between philosopher like Socrates or one who uses his brain much more than any body else i.e., Sir, Newton even he did’t thought about to fly. It means who is more inteligent? Moreover, we are proving that he is ringht by flying in the sky. I hope we ( all human kind not only Indians) might be prove that we can travel from one planet to another in near future. Beause, we started thinking about it now only.

3. One thing always hurts me that we made lot of machines but every machine is not success even made in same factory and same techinology, same metals & ingriedents even it is made by NASA because there are lot failed missions in NASA’s hands why,what is the scientific cause for this?

4. How many deceases initially borne in India and spread in the world? (Cause might be Indians ancient food culture, which have different spices & herbs). (400 word anecdote removed- ADMIN)

5. Ancient Indians have most experience and knowledge than others that’s why told us to avoid ill treating to others even it is an animal or a mistake committed person. This thing founds entire Indian writings even Mahaveera’s or Buddh’s teachings tell us. I have lot Of doubts to ask you if you can reply me. One more thing there are some rumers about NASA’s moon mission with human being landed on moon. Same condions are available in USA’s backyard and all the scens are shooted there only. I think the rumers are right because there is a cause there even after 40 -50 years of first mission no other man mission to moon has not been sent by NASA to know water, minerals, etc. If you have any tape to prove, I am not going accept you because there are lot space travelling Hollywood movies I have seen and I think you also seen them (I alredy told that you are right because I also thinks like you). Tell me now how can you going to prove it? (One more thiny I have never seen the god but believes on him (half) because there so many things we con’t prove it scientifcally) I only beliefs in to do the best from me lefts remaining god. I like one one hindu (I believe in all relegions) quotation “god is everywhere and find him either in your work or any animal or any human or even any man made thing”.

Dear K, thank you for your questions. I am sorry I had to edit your post but you must understand that it was extremely long (1050 words) and also that a large portion was relating to your medical experiences and opinions on the medical profession. We are astronomers and not doctors here, we are not qualified to judge the validity of your claims. I will try to answer your questions as best as I can.

1. Every one has same size of brain (approximately) as per science, but, every persons thoughts are different, even we came from hardly one or two branches of home sapience or something else. Everybodies body’s shapes and sizes are diffrent. Even after biological brothers or sisters and one more thing even their genes are different why?

I cannot answer that as it is far removed from my field. Really you need to put this question to a neurologist. Sorry.

2. One thing which we both have to agree that only one who have vast knowledge he thinks better than others means valmiki is the person who have that much imagination power to think about vimana’s (flying objects) in thousands of years ago in his written Ramayana. Which still not understood to me, no one think to fly till one or two centuries before. In between philosopher like Socrates or one who uses his brain much more than any body else i.e., Sir, Newton even he did’t thought about to fly. It means who is more inteligent? Moreover, we are proving that he is ringht by flying in the sky. I hope we ( all human kind not only Indians) might be prove that we can travel from one planet to another in near future. Beause, we started thinking about it now only.

I’m sorry but I do not understand the question, could you ask it in another way?

3. One thing always hurts me that we made lot of machines but every machine is not success even made in same factory and same techinology, same metals & ingriedents even it is made by NASA because there are lot failed missions in NASA’s hands why,what is the scientific cause for this?

I can answer this as I have previous worked in aerospace manufacturing. Components of aircraft, rockets, spacecraft etc are made by people. Every person no matter how skilled can make errors so occasionally a substandard part is made. After parts are made there are then processes to test and inspect them and reject anything that is substandard, but these cannot be 100% successful either, so occasionally a substandard part is not rejected and ends up being used in the finished vehicle. Usually this is not as bad as it sounds as aircraft and rockets are highly over-engineered to prevent a single component failure leading to disaster, but sometimes this is not enough leading to a crash or mission failure. For spacecraft too, you must remember that they can be unique designs so there may not be the experience to know where failures can occur.

4. How many deceases initially borne in India and spread in the world? (Cause might be Indians ancient food culture, which have different spices & herbs).

I’m sorry but we cannot answer medical questions, you should look elsewhere.

5. Ancient Indians have most experience and knowledge than others that’s why told us to avoid ill treating to others even it is an animal or a mistake committed person. This thing founds entire Indian writings even Mahaveera’s or Buddh’s teachings tell us. I have lot Of doubts to ask you if you can reply me. One more thing there are some rumers about NASA’s moon mission with human being landed on moon. Same condions are available in USA’s backyard and all the scens are shooted there only. I think the rumers are right because there is a cause there even after 40 -50 years of first mission no other man mission to moon has not been sent by NASA to know water, minerals, etc. If you have any tape to prove, I am not going accept you because there are lot space travelling Hollywood movies I have seen and I think you also seen them (I alredy told that you are right because I also thinks like you). Tell me now how can you going to prove it?

This is very off-topic but I can say that the Apollo Moon missions are some of the best and most thoroughly documented events in history. In addition the body of scientific and engineering knowledge developed for the Apollo project and discovered through it is used daily by astronomers, geologists and engineers. All this field of knowledge is a complete and self-consistent set of evidence. Everyone who uses it accepts that the Moon landings occurred as reported, just as biologists accept that whales are mammals and historians accept that World War One began in 1914. You really need to read our articles on the Apollo missions (link) especially 5 Goofy Moonlanding Hoax Theories (link) and Apollo 18: the truth about the lost Moon missions (link).

Anand
· August 19, 2016 at 08:28

Dear admin. I read full replies. At last you want to say that people praise about modern experiment produced by scientist than ancient notes.
Here comes, Columbus discovered America but he didn’t invented it. For that we have proof. We are now dealing with plasma propulsion to travel with very less fuel in space for longer time but in olden days we had proof for plasma ” it’s weightless pressure fourth state ” in Rig Veda. So, asking evidence for everything is a part of conveniencing critics and say that we have found it.

It’s like ” God ( super energy) is created by human being who generated by God ( super energy).

SLtothecore
· August 26, 2015 at 18:20

Hi,

A Sri Lankan here. There’s absolutely no credible evidence in any form whatsoever regarding Ravana in my country. It’s just a myth. Not a single piece of historical document which mentions about Ravana nor flying machines.

udaya
· October 27, 2015 at 16:28

Hi tothecore,
If u do not know the facts just keep shut. There are plenty of evidences in Sri lanka regarding king Ravan. There are written evidences also which we protect generation to generation in secretly.

justpassingby
· November 23, 2015 at 22:21

AGN
· July 29, 2015 at 14:24

Dear Admin,

I am very much Indian and I am really happy to see you gathering huge patience to reply to the preposterous claims made here by people from my country. I usually almost never comment on any public blogs, but I happened to stumble upon this blog and understand a well written article.

I would like to apologise on behalf of my countrymen, lest you think it is a country of only fools.

India has bigger problems than such claims. I implore my friends to please be all the more wiser and employ your time and resources in achieving development rather than Idling away precious resources posting false claims and half cooked knowledge.

It only portrays how gullible and ignorant you are. Be nice to the people (admin) who are humouring you and answering your childish queries with lot of respect.

If you are truly proud of your country and heritage, please do something today that will make you and your future generations proud.

Khush
· March 10, 2016 at 22:17

AGN,
Excellent and appropriate observation! But who has the wherewithal to actually engage with the significance of the reality check that you have sought to provide here? I also salute the charitable disposition demonstrated by Admin. Well done indeed!!

Piyush
· July 24, 2015 at 04:52

Thanks for trying to decode Hinduism…
Hinduism it self pure and complete science and far reached beyond science can not perceived by normal humans or machines … though humans have just decode lots of from old scripture of Hinduism but that’s like few drops of infinite ocean, And there is only way to understand Hinduism truly and completely live like a Hindu.
sarve sukhinah santu…
Om…

oliver
· July 19, 2015 at 17:20

I am just appalled that majority of the people who have commented here are not only ignorant about science but also about history… when the admin has asked about citation, they are not able to produce one and yet they speak as if they are the expert.. people who make tall claims please provide accurate citation and evidence so that i could look into these facts…

dinson
· July 11, 2015 at 12:45

I can’t believe these people. First learn what is science. Even Norse mythology says about flying stuff and people. Doesn’t mean they existed. Oh I’m sorry… Now you all are gonna say Norse is followers of Hindu mythology:-p
And… I guess srilankans where far advanced than Indians coz they invented flying machines:-p lol
Please. Give be a break

Dear Vijay, thanks for your comments, however I have several questions:
a) What is Sahastra (and what units is it measured in)?
b) What relevance do these quantities have to astronomy?
c) Is a 4.77% error acceptable

Shuklaz
· September 20, 2015 at 05:09

Sahastra means one thousand in Sanskrit. It doesn’t have any units, it’s just an integer. Even though I know that shloka, I didn’t know the actual numerical meaning. For that time I guess you might discount that error %. I like your scientific temperament and that’s fair thing to do.

The shloka is written by Goswami Tulsidas in around 15th century. (I guess – check Wikipedia for correctness ), he translated the Sanskrit Ramayana to Awadhi language. So the actual reference would be from Ramayana written by Vashisht (undated I believe or can’t be ascertained).

Ankur Saraswat
· October 21, 2015 at 17:39

Shami
· July 3, 2015 at 08:13

Dear Admin,

I’m a Sri Lankan and would like to bring to you a couple aspects (evidence?) you may have missed considering, before concluding that the stories related to Ravana and the legends of ancient advance technologies are likely to be only “myths”.

First and most importantly, you are searching for evidence for the legitimacy of these “myths” to be 1) already published, and then 2) that too, be translated into English. You may want to consider the fact that English is still largely a “foreign” language to the natives of the part of the world where these “myths” are found in. And not only the language, but the majority of the “social system” of the largely trade-based western civilization, is in fact, “foreign”, to the native Asian civilizations at large- even today. And please don’t forget that these countries, are only now, slowly coming out from their ashes left from their centuries-long-continuous foreign invasions (“colonization” is the word you may be more familiar with). So, for them to adapt to your system and come up with the kind of “evidence” that you would understand, is going to take a little more time than present date. Because all we have passed, is just a little over 50 years since the “liberation (?)” from the last British Empire. Much damage has been done to our native social systems and knowledge bases which preserved and transmitted our wisdom of the ancients, and much of our original books/ scriptures & even the native scholarly lineages who held the task of preserving that knowledge, have already been looted/ destroyed (evidence- please research the “Great Rebellion of 1817–18” in Ceylon, in which, all of the native male population above the age of 18 of one of the most important regions of the last Sri Lankan kingdom- the Kandyan Kingdom, were massacred by the Brits to defeat the rebellion- War crime investigations anyone?). With all this in mind, please also do not forget that in our native systems, wisdom was passed down through oral traditions, more than through writing, and that over (at least) 5000 years has passed since the time of the great king Ravana and the relevant Indian societies.

So over such a long period of time, obviously the world went through several changes and the legends you hear today, would have accumulated much distortions. We ourselves are aware of this when we read our legends, but, are you?

Since I presume you have little understanding of our Asian cultural ways of story telling, may I enlighten you, that it is very normal in our traditions, even today; that a lot of the complex details are given as “analogies” to simplify, and also sometimes “hide” their deeper sciences/ secrets, so that only the advanced intellectuals are able to decipher them when they come across them. Because advance scientific knowledge was not freely transmitted to the general public by our scholars (this not so “odd” since, many modern western advance innovations, are guarded by their respective governments – even today).

I am not claiming to be the expert of this subject myself, but if you may, please research a little more into the following, so that you may want to look at your above conclusion with a renewed, more informed, and a more open minded perspective. After-all, modern-day science is about evolving itself, to reach closer to the ultimate truth.

Topics directly related to Ravana & his Vimana Technologies:
1) Ancient “Yantras” & “Mantras” – our native sciences of harnessing laws of physics (substance) and energies (mantras- mainly sound energy)
2) The biochemical and chemical basics behind preparations of the ancient “herbal concoctions” used in these.
3) Our numerical/ mathematical systems- which the west had borrowed from east originally, and then developed to the current branch with their own logics (ancient ones of the east are believed to be a different branch altogether).

4) For living Archeological evidences- the sciences of architecture behind ancient sites of South Indian (Dravidian) / Sri Lankan (Hela civilization is the native Sri Lankan civilization as it was known back then) heritage such as Sigiriya Rock Palace Complex (Sri Lanka) and Angkor Wat (in Cambodia). Research a bit into their (Cambodia, Thailand, Indonesia) history to see their connection with Ravana. So, not just in South India+ Sri Lanka, Ravana is believed to have influenced/ instilled several remarkable “bases/ advance structures” through-out the planet, Sri Lankan researchers on Ravana, now speculate that his empire could have spread, not just to the near South East Asia, but also as far as to the Middle East, and Americas itself (Assirian, Mayan & Aztec civilizations- research for the similarities on their irrigation systems with that of ancient Sri Lanakn – eg. man built-reservoir irrigation systems which are still existent in the island and working better than the newly built ones), because of his “aeronautic scientific” achievements (It is believed that this wisdom was not readily shared by all of his own family members, let alone the rest of the country/ region – again, you need to research into the culture to understand these aspects).

But for all these to be “published” in western dominated scientific journals of the present time, it’s going to take more time (given they are allowed at all- Political monopolies have known to delay/ influence such) But our academic scientists are now making active progress using your scientific requirements and designs/ equipment’s none-the-less, to research the archeological evidences of our past (evidence of advance social civilizations, with the capability to use iron long before the European ancestors could have already been confirmed, along with uses of porcelain instead of high porous clay products, and advance stone manipulations/ carvings, are already found).

So, it may only be a matter of time, before the west starts seeing the evidence you so fairly (from your end) demand. Maybe not. Let us be patient, and see. It’s possible that the current theories of how civilizations progressed (eg. Aryan theories) – which are established by the Europeans & their descendants, are about to be challenged otherwise, by Asians, in this century. If so, it should be interesting to both parties, because after all, that’s how modern science progress, is it not? So let us wait and see.

Thank You, if you took the time to read through all. 🙂
Enjoy your Day!

VK
· June 30, 2015 at 21:34

Vishwa Randunu
· June 23, 2015 at 03:57

King Ravana wasn’t a devil (Some people think he was a alien) He invented lot of technology.According to Ramayana, the emperor Ravana was assassinated by Rama.But referring ola manuscripts, rock inscriptions and folklore of Sri Lanka, Ravana was not died at war. He was not to killed by any other common person as Dasis Ravana represented a soul of a bodhisattva.The emperor had many names as he ruled many countries. Ravanna, rabanan, ravanan, dasis, ravan, ravula are some of them. Ravana had many talents in many subjects. As a well experienced, Ayurvedic physician, the king wrote several books on medicine, Astrology. As an artist he composed Ravana raagas.King Ravana was the Founder of Civilzations like Maya Atex in South America, Egypt in Middle East. At that time he was like the Emperor who controles 10 states.The “Sura” civilizations in india doesn’t like this and they try to distroy our king as a result of it Great History of King Ravana vanish from the world.we have to find that civilization that distroy by Sura civilizations. According to Ramayana, the emperor Ravana was assassinated by Rama.But referring ola manuscripts, rock inscriptions and folklore of Sri Lanka, Ravana was not died at war. He was not to killed by any other common person as Dasis Ravana represented a soul of a bodhisattva.The emperor had many names as he ruled many countries. Ravanna, rabanan, ravanan, dasis, ravan, ravula are some of them. Ravana had many talents in many subjects. As a well experienced, Ayurvedic physician, the king wrote several books on medicine, Astrology. As an artist he composed Ravana raagas.archaeologists says that, this “Hela / Asura” civilzation is the Atlantis civilization which was distroied by nuclear war.

L wik
· March 30, 2016 at 06:06

Satish
· June 14, 2015 at 12:06

Dear Admin
we always had technology far ahead of other places.

The constuction of ram setu has Been described in very detail in ramayana…..inluding the length breadth how it was done etc.
I would suggest you first read vedas…they are rich in scientific facts.if you can reand and understand tamil avvaiyaar. ..a 17th century poet in one of her poems says…”anuvai thullaithu aazh kadalai pugatti”….anu represents atom and they knew atom could be split.

In kamba ramayanam a 9th century tex when referring to God. …kambar says….”anuvilum ulan”….

Dear Admin when according to you einstein discovered atom?…
There are very detailed texts in vedas reg meru which many.misunderstand as hill but actually refers to earth’s axis.

If you are an Indian you should be ashamed when people at CERN designed the LHC based on nataraja’s stand you still says science is superior

Sandeep
· June 13, 2015 at 06:34

Dears

We, the Indian’s are to be blamed for these type of beliefs people carry over centuries that all Indian claims about the technological advancements and knowledge abundance during ancient times are false. We, as a nation, have failed to carry forward the hereditary wealth of this knowledge. Years before, many rulers have ruled Indian subcontinent and have taken with them the wealth of knowledge, the books. Our ancestors, never realized the true value of these books and easily let them take it away. All these books believed to contain documentary evidences about our advanced technological achievements, which now may be being used by others for their research.

Have we ever tried to build research centers to study these ancient books (at least the available ones) and come up with documented evidence about any reinvention? We have not. In fact, due to political paralysis, it is impossible to move forward in this direction
So we cant blame others for not believing in our beliefs. We must change this attitude, we must take up the challenge of proving it, mainly to ourselves and take the benefit of it. Less we care about what others think about us, first rebuild that strong belief in our ancient culture and start reinventing it ..!!

dan
· June 12, 2015 at 06:03

dear all,

how can we achieve ,when we(refer to myself as well) are still enslaved by working for foreign companies for bitter money and selling our minds for their fortunate growth ,everything existed just because science “found by human” cannot prove anything doesnt mean it doesnt exist how funny is that science Teaches as something one day and someone else disproves as otherwise ,and even more funny is that they say GOD doesnt exist and they Find sub atomic particles and name them as GOD matter stupid human and his silly mind clouding him from believing the truth in the name of science.”i do know that someone else is going to comment on this instead of understanding just to say- no you are wrong .

justpassingby
· November 23, 2015 at 21:47

Jake
· May 27, 2017 at 05:41

I think you’re confused.

Teachers would introduce prevailing theories and the evidence that supports them, and what they have been able to accurately predict. If more evidence pushes the theory in another direction, then the theory is expanded to suit the new evidence.

Also, the ” sub atomic particles” you’re referring to is called the Higgs Boson, It was predicted by the prevailing theories that make up the Standard Model… and then it was found. It was only referred to as “the god particle” because of media outlets reporting it. They wouldn’t let them publish it as the “Goddamn particle” which is the joke in which the name originates.

So fortunately, no. Nothing you have said is accurate. Research scientists spend millions of hours doing hard research that is subject to rigorous scrutiny in the scientific community. That’s what the term “peer review” means. Once someone proposes a theory (which isn’t just an idea by the way. The societal use of “theory” is what scientists would call a “hypothesis”) the rest of the scientific community is there to try to disprove it. When they can’t, that’s when it becomes accepted.

Don’t discard the extensive and difficult work that goes on all around the world because you don’t understand it, and spent a few minutes pondering the subject. If you took five minutes to try to check your argument, you would have stopped dead in your tracks.

Amit Rai
· May 30, 2015 at 20:28

Hi admin read the whole article & yup comments too .. i have been researching for a while about engines or propulsion systems ..& came with just few conclusion’s – A in order to get sufficient amount of thrust to travel light speed we need some serious engines powered by fusion or antimatter reactor ..the ion engines are good but can’t achieve 5% of speed of light and takes long time too.. So until those guys at ITER make the fusion possible and sustainable and unless we are successful in creating more then a gram of antimatter ….can you tell me is there any mention of any type of engines(except vortex) used in ancient types or mentioned in books or anything ….it would really help a lot ..

Ved
· July 3, 2015 at 04:29

Admin…I am from India and a very proud Hindu. I do believe in many things about our civilization.

I must tell you…you are wasting your time…I live here and I see this everyday.

Ancient India and Hindu tradition encouraged “Debates and Discussions BASED ON FACTS”; unlike many other civilizations of those days. I can assure you that while we have found traces for every great achievement of mankind back into our books….Somehow we forgot to trace “Logical Debates and Discussions”

Many tend to glorify everything and blow it out of proportion. We dont want to read and dont have a scientific temperament….Unfortunately we lost it and you can see it here on this page.

I am pained to see these discussions…Due to this temperament…we forget glorifying what we really should…The contribution of Aryabhata and his contribution to Mathematics and Astronomy. Even here we believe in not reading but what others pass on to us…So we tend to get this one wrong too…

There are many examples of great work done by our civilization…Just like other civilizations which encouraged meritocracy at some point. Now, we encourage “mediocracy”….

daare
· July 25, 2015 at 03:38

arun
· October 14, 2015 at 06:17

Surendran
· April 11, 2015 at 15:06

Author touched up on the Shastra and NASA trials with Mercury vortex technology, but didnt care to mention, in 1895 an Indian named Talpade successfully flown a proto aircraft by following Mercuty vortext technology mentioned in Vaimanika Shastra. The unmanned aircraft flown upto 1500 feet before it crashed on to the ground, while Bright brothers in 1903 flown it just over 100feet ? Both these events done in Public view, but only that of Brights’ reported by Govt while that of Indian’s effort was not as India then under the colonial rule of British. However British Govt recorded the feat and arrested Talpade and punished him.

Dear Surendran, thanks for your comments but I do have to take issue with some of them.

NASA trials with Mercury vortex technology

One of the points of the article is that there is no such thing as “mercury vortex technology”; it seems to be a misunderstanding of the possible use of mercury as a propellent in ion thrusters.

in 1895 an Indian named Talpade successfully flown a proto aircraft by following Mercuty vortext technology mentioned in Vaimanika Shastra.

There are no references to the existence of Vaimanika Shastra before the 1940s and even its promoters claim it was supernaturally dictated only in the first half of the twentieth century, so if you are correct Mr Talpade was very much ahead of his time!

Are you sure that you are recounting the facts of history or the plot of the 2015 movie Hawaizaada ?

RAJEEV KUMAR
· November 30, 2015 at 14:35

thanks admin to rediscovered the thing..but one thing i want to share that pushapak viman was not created or possessed by king ravan..it was forcibly captured by lord kuber..which is treasurer of lord indra.and lord kuber was brother of Ravan..as it is maintioned in vedas.. actually pushapak viman was created or manufactured by lord chitragupta who is hindu god for architecture and engioneering,,so i think that the inventer of viman was lord chitragupta…in our hindu text it is written that when temperature of sun become very heavy..lord chitragupta made three things from the energy of sun..trishul(weopen of lord shiv),sudarshan chakra(weopen of lord vishnu), and pushapak viman.. so we indian believes that these things are made by our ancient scientist..thanks

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T1m0
· June 11, 2015 at 19:11

Avijit
· February 4, 2015 at 04:48

Factual reports have been suppressed by the inttuders belonging to muslim religion and Europeans (Edited by Admin- please avoid terms that could be interpreted as racial slurs). They have destroyed the Takshila University having the documentation on technical and scientific developments by our ancestors. The breton supressed, destroyed the documents related to Shivdutt Bapuji Talpade…by the way…do you know who he was…? He was the first human being to make a flying machine possible…well before the Wright bros….what we actually lac has been plunged deep of the destruction….

prince
· January 16, 2015 at 19:33

not only ravana there are many things that relates to indian technology, but since they do not have evidence doen’t means that they didn’t existed.
i would like to suggests you some facts that relates to ancient indian technology
1. ayurveda(it basically relates to medical sciences)
2. yoga
3. astronomical sciences(very common in india)
4. ancient scruptures in bodhgaya which shows evidences of ufo’s at that time.
5. ancient temples.

ask
· December 19, 2014 at 11:37

They have stolen our technology and studying and making innovations and patenting in their names and made us forget our roots of wisdom ,technology,wealth and made us follow blind by making us follow english cultures which we still follow blindly.

our ancient technology is the only standard and some times they just say indian scriptures and writings are validated by nasa.But background the are studying our technology.
Truly disgusting

prakash
· February 1, 2015 at 17:59

See we indians should have analysed our past and applied technology, knowledge and dedveloped some things new technology from past 1000 years atleast? instead of pointing some one that they have stolen our technology, whats wrong in that we dint do or dint used or never applied technology,knolwedge we never shared also. so english people that they can do some thing new and achieved. there is no proof that they have done from this ancient technology its just imagination.

but lets us not comment on Ravana, its past we dont kknow past so we dont have right declare some thing based on some documents? how do u believe documents first of all? i suggest this website people pls just publish things as its. dont comment on Hindus past charecters, we can also ask do u have proof for Jesus christ? so try to make discussion more wide,healthy rather than suppressing our feelings.
mr raghu i also point out that Europe, US are there more than 1000 years not just 500 years. of course agree ancient india is there from several 1000 years

thanks for all commenting , lets us try to develop some thing new from our past

Raghu
· December 2, 2014 at 21:06

Hi,
I would like to point out that Ravana was not a myth or legend. Its history and there are proven facts that Ravana existed long ago. Europe and US do not have history more than 500 years put together. Whereas Indian Subcontinent has history more than 5000 years ago. Hence there is every possibility that knowledge and technology has been lost over such a long period.

Dear Raghu, thank you for your comment. We are a scientific institution and most rely on evidence. Unfortunately I can find no credible academic source stating that Ravana was a real person rather than a mythical being or that suggest advanced technologies existed anywhere on Earth in the distant past.

justpassingby
· November 23, 2015 at 21:36

Mani Bharathi
· December 12, 2016 at 17:38

Science doesn’t ask for proof always…it asks for explanation which is accepted by most of the people. If you can explain your concept other than literature support (provide proof of inscriptions,sculptures,coins etc) then science will consider it

Viki
· January 31, 2015 at 17:44

Also How do you explain Ramsetu then? It still exists underwater as per Satalite pictures.

First Aircraft was flown by an Indian before wright brothers using Mercury Vortex Engine (from Vaimanik Shastra). We humans are bound by an inherent limitation in our thinking, that is not to believe anything that is unproven as on that date. People who believe otherwise are proven by history to be the inventors. Today top you designs in Vaimanik Shastra will seem Aerodynamically unrealistic, I believe that there is a missing link somewhere.

I also think Vimanas in Indian history were actually flown by Aliens, Aliens have visited earth since ages. Obviously that is my belief and is actually impossible to prove.

denah
· July 13, 2016 at 00:51

Actually ramsetu is not a natural form bridge because on each rock that is there it had the writing “in the name of Lord rama” and it connects from India to shri lanka where lord rama was goin to get back his wife MA Sita from ravan who kidnapped her

Kity
· September 28, 2016 at 06:32

I don’t known there is if there is supporting evidence but I can say that in old days it was told that no one can ever fly or like it is not possible to make flying machine , those era people never believed in Indian ancient true stories about flying machine , but now it is proved that we can make flying machines . And now still u don’t believed in those stories because there is no evidence . huh

Dear Kity, thank you for your comments, unfortunately I do not understand your points. Until there is evidence showing that ancient flying machines existed, there is no reason to believe they were real.

Ved
· July 3, 2015 at 04:43

Viki…What makes you think that todays Sri Lanka is the “old Lanka” as depicted in our books. Since we are it…Let me tell you that Lanka was located atleast 100 Yojanas away meaning 800 miles…away fron India…Sri Lanka is not located 800 miles away…

It is assumed that in Lanka of those days would have been around Maldives…And there is No setu between India and Maldives…

Now blame the Continental Drift/Plate Tectonics for the shift in position…

facts
· October 10, 2017 at 14:21

Dear admin,
Yours being a scientific institution, do you suggest here that you would want Ravana to come to you with his flying jet and explain you the details about the same?
I hope you grow up now, admin, and accept that the technology we have as of now is still way behind what certain civilizations had.

T1m0
· June 11, 2015 at 16:54

Simmam Raghu
· July 11, 2016 at 04:17

Dear admin, Please understand that everything could be proved scientifically. It is always said where science fails spirituality begins. You might argue chromosomes etc., but could you explain how a drop of semen creates gigantic human figures. What miracles happen at the womb. So everything cannot be explained.

Dear Simmam, thank you for your comment. I would respectfully suggest that you consider the possibility that something that you do not understand all the details of may not seem miraculous to other people.

Enlightened
· November 28, 2016 at 14:08

I pity the admin here. It’s a scientific based website that publishes content based on hard facts, and still you people tell them to change based unproven/ validated “stories”. Give them actual facts to make your point, p/s- scriptures are not considered factually proven by scientist / academic researchers

Ariharan
· August 21, 2015 at 20:35

Hi Admin,

I read this article, it has evidence too.

Ravana is not any kind of 10 headed alien as foreign idiotic CRITICS think,
He is a dasavani, I.E., he has 10 wisdoms , means like humans we have 6 knowledge and animals has 5 knowledge like that one who attained 8 astamasidis or knowledge heor she become a siddhar, ravana has 10 knowledge so called as dasavani.. He is our TAMIL Forefathers forefather, hope do u know recently what happened in srilanka , with the help of global countries support they done a TAMIL Genocide, which the place where Ravana kingdom..

Our forefathers and siddars will tell those secrets to their sisyas living together in their ashramam and purposefully it will go in to wrong hands will lead a major destruction of world.

Tirumoolar is our forefather he prepared mercury as a fuel , as u know mercury is a heavy poisonous, but it is mixed with some amount of rathinas,diamonds,gold,tamarind and other substances ( which is not revealed for outsiders) I.E., our forefathers written everything in poetry of Tamil with hided meanings it is difficult to understand by any of them other than siddars blessings, like said he make a black hole with above substances and travelled in a speed of light to universe and time travelling.

Everything were hidden and some of the we’re destroyed purposefully during British rules.

Our head of Siddars , guru ( not to mention his name) he invented Varma kalai, through this one can control anything from anywhere, for sample 20 year china rule was controlled by Tamil during 1700..

Do I know one thing during British rule there written were destroyed by them as well as those vimanas has been brought by Germany from tanjavur family in Tamilnadu during british rules.

You people only know to invent CRITICS but do not forget even in CRITICS our Ayyadurai invented EMAIL..IF suppose he was not bought copyrights for what he invented, then it would be owned by some other foreigners using CRITICS…

Bandara
· October 16, 2015 at 05:15

Hi Ariharan,

My friend, this is not an argument. Just explaining something you to further study. Please don’t accept everything has been written in Ramayan by Warlmiki which was literary work. We can not believe that Hanuman and he can burn a Country from his tail.

King Ravana is not from India and he is not Tamil either. He is a Sinhalese. Sinha means in our mother tongue for Lions. There enough evidence with epigraph including lions’ face and more statues with lion in this land which are older than 5000 years. This is according to archaeology. These are not imaginary assumption. There are proves.

Also Pulatisi was Grandfarther of Ravana and King Vishwrasha was the farther. And elder son was “Irugal Bandara” which Bandara name is still is cultured class surname in Sri Lanka.

Also we have epigraph in Sinhala old language as evidence. The language “Sinhalese” cannot be found in any country. It is only in Sri Lanka. But tamil and similar languages can be found in India like, Malayalam, Karnatak, Telingu and may be few more.

But when you compare Sinhalese it is not similar to Tamil or any other language.

justpassingby
· November 23, 2015 at 21:42

facts
· October 10, 2017 at 14:42

Why would the British destroy such craft rather than reverse engineer them….it seems like you don’t understand science, facts, proof, or anything other than parroting the same thing you’re ancestors said, you’re ancestors said……dude your ancestors probably knew about as much as you do today. Keep believing in fairytales, it’s hard to believe in this day and age a person still wants to change reality just because they can’t handle changing there perception!

Ritika
· April 24, 2016 at 05:56

Dear Ratika, thank you for your question. We are a scientific institution not a religious one. Science demands proof for assertions to be accepted as fact whereas religions are based on personal faith alone. I do not see the relevance of your question to our work.

Atul
· January 4, 2017 at 11:01

Dear admin ji
You said that ravan is just a myth but can you explain me why scientist have failed to identify that why the stone that soldiers of bhagvan Ram laid to make path to lanka float and these stones are exist now also .you are just fools you donot know anything .

Neymar
· October 4, 2017 at 16:31

Hey man thx for Ur research work info I’m sick of people claiming all the advanced technology as theirs in India. They don’t show any proper evidence and the type of flying machines they describe are the worst designs. I mean if that flying boat design is what they got lol they don’t seem to know anything abt aerodynamics lol and they claim to have all that Tec and want us to believe without evidence. Stay scientific and please debunk more theiries like these.

Chanaka
· November 9, 2017 at 21:06

US got a boost from East India. The Nazi’s stole the East Indian science and created UFOS, Rockets, etc and after WW2 brought that to US. This was all technology from ancient India. If you read Ramayana or Mahabarata you will see that the technology used in wars in those books are basically UFO technology. Robert Oppenhiemer scientist behind the modern atomic bomb was asked if this was the first atmoic bomb and he stated in modern times. He also read out of the Bhavagita when the atomic bomb exploded for the first time. Aliens and UFO is a cover up created by the USA to hide the technology. The UFOs are man made, not alien, they have invisibilty like noted in Ramayana, and people using this technology can be 100% invisible not using a cloak but phyisically using a special type of ray .

Nas Tham
· December 8, 2017 at 10:46

I think most people who are from the south asian community are proud of your culture but it took others around the world to make you realize that. Sanskrit was lost long ago when tamil and other speaking languages came about. There is nothing you could provide in scientific terms to prove your side of story. Everything said here was written by someone else and maybe true or not, it does not prove your point. History is written by the last man standing and unfortunately we didnt last. I have great respect for our ancesters reaching back to kumari kandam. Even with new found sattelite imaging, they dont want to rewrite history. It is a lot of work and change which humans dont like. Unfortunately we only know what we hear or read. I hate that. I wish we still have credible scholars and respected historians to attest. Truth is fun to know aside from the moral part. Anyway my words are only to entertain you as i was not even here

justpassingby
· November 23, 2015 at 22:40

Gerry
· March 26, 2016 at 18:53

Don’t worry about it chief.Your not going to convince some egghead socialist institution with heads so far up thier socialist hindquarters that India’s history is far older and that it is a fact you had great technologies far beyond today’s. If they can’t find it in a scientific journal they poo poo it. We among the populace of the world believe you all. I am a native born white American who knows

Jonny
· May 5, 2016 at 21:08

However I reckon a lot of our written history was destroyed especially during the highland clearances and during the inquisition. They destroyed more than Scotland’s heritage. However I do respect India’s great epics as historical sources I don’t know about space craft, I view them as postulates much like Da Vinci’s and Einstein’s work.

What I will say is I’m opened minded about it due to evidence of Ancient India and Mesopotamia being highly advanced at both metallurgy and fuel production.

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