From the sound of it, I'm afraid they put all their eggs in the MP/FPS numbers. I mean, after all the high ISO performance was never a selling point in the original 7D, it was always the 18 MP/8 FPS that sold the 7D for years. I don't think they are about to change that formula now. That means anyone interested in low noise should either consider a 5D Mark III or even the 6D but don't count on the 7D mark II to fill that void.

From the sound of it, I'm afraid they put all their eggs in the MP/FPS numbers. I mean, after all the high ISO performance was never a selling point in the original 7D, it was always the 18 MP/8 FPS that sold the 7D for years. I don't think they are about to change that formula now. That means anyone interested in low noise should either consider a 5D Mark III or even the 6D but don't count on the 7D mark II to fill that void.

To my eyes, it seems they need some kind of 'pro' body that can replace APS-H to some extent for the photographers that need the extra 'reach' the APS-C/H can give while still having pretty good quality image and AF. I doubt it'll be 1D level of weather-sealing/body type, but 5d3 level of weather-sealing? I could see that. And even if they keep the IQ and ISO performance the same or maybe even slight better, these things will probably still fly off the shelves. Especially if they update the AF some.

From the sound of it, I'm afraid they put all their eggs in the MP/FPS numbers. I mean, after all the high ISO performance was never a selling point in the original 7D, it was always the 18 MP/8 FPS that sold the 7D for years. I don't think they are about to change that formula now. That means anyone interested in low noise should either consider a 5D Mark III or even the 6D but don't count on the 7D mark II to fill that void.

Increased MP and FPS means nothing without high ISO noise reduction that can compete with Nikon's best DX body. It would seem to be a marketing mistake if Canon doesn't leap frog over Nikon in IQ as well as feature set.

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oh great so the 7D Mk2 will have the 60D autofocus (all 11 cross type of course) a full plastic body, 3" touch and swivel screen, wifi for facebook uploads, GPS, 1/160s sync speed and a 93% viewfinder.

the 20.1 MP sensor will have the decreased DR and noise performance we know from the 650D.

If the 7D II will have the hybrid AF more or less like the 650D while taking video and better IQ under the ISO 12800 or better jet 25600 with not nesseccery more than 18mp sensor and wireless built-in it will sell like hot bread sonday morning and Canon should be happy. And we know that all that counts !And if they (Canon) puts in good weather sealing, GPS, veri-angel touch screen and more, maybe the costumers also will be happy.

From the sound of it, I'm afraid they put all their eggs in the MP/FPS numbers. I mean, after all the high ISO performance was never a selling point in the original 7D, it was always the 18 MP/8 FPS that sold the 7D for years. I don't think they are about to change that formula now. That means anyone interested in low noise should either consider a 5D Mark III or even the 6D but don't count on the 7D mark II to fill that void.

While I'd love to see better DR in a new 7D, I must agree with this sentiment as well.

I own both a 5dm3 and the 7D, and the cameras serve very different purposes for me.

And let's face it, given Canon's recent pricing strategy, if they announced a 7D with +2fps, +2MP, 5Dm3 style DR, and even the same AF system it has now, it would likely be upwards of the $1,700 it currently costs.

I'm hoping that if the 7Dm2 replaces the 60D, that will keep it's price point below $2,000. I'd love to see better DR, but if Canon gets too crazy in that regard they risk eroding the sales of the FF lineup.

But I still think this camera is a ways off. AF is still the second best in Canon's line (5Dm3 and 1DX at #1), and the FPS is also #2 (1DX). There's still not a ton of room for improvement that would warrant people such as myself to upgrade while keeping the price low.

My guess is announcement in third quarter of 2013... maybe even later.