If this is your first visit, be sure to
check out the FAQ by clicking the
link above. You may have to register
before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages,
select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Over training in armor does not improve your SMRv2 defense. Not being fully trained can really hinder your SMRv2 defense. Just going off my data from full leather, it appears any training over an armor's RT penalty does not increase your SMRv2 defense. Testing info seen below:

This is because full leather has no action penalty (it's the highest ASG without one)

You should see a benefit using higher ASG and being +50 ranks over the required action penalty training you would need.

So take doubles for example. Need 8 ranks to train off action penalty, 6 for RT. It says on the wiki +50 ranks over the RT penalty gives an AP reduction. At 56 ranks, you should get a tiny boost in action penalty reduction which should be a small boost to SMRv2.

I doubt it would be significant until you got into the plate armors though.

This is because full leather has no action penalty (it's the highest ASG without one)

You should see a benefit using higher ASG and being +50 ranks over the required action penalty training you would need.

So take doubles for example. Need 8 ranks to train off action penalty, 6 for RT. It says on the wiki +50 ranks over the RT penalty gives an AP reduction. At 56 ranks, you should get a tiny boost in action penalty reduction which should be a small boost to SMRv2.

I doubt it would be significant until you got into the plate armors though.

I didn't test double leather, but I did take a character up to 95 Armor Use ranks and saw no bonus over hitting the 10 ranks needed to remove the RT penalty on it. 13 ranks is required for the maneuver penalty on leather breastplate.

I've updated the chart above in the original post to show the info I found for leather breastplate.

Is there any way to test how many points the racial bonuses give? Average, good, excellent and best are a bit vague.

Only way to do that is roll up a character of each race, make sure they have their AGI and DEX set to give a 0 bonus. I can't roll up new characters in the test server.

Only way to do this is to actually setup new characters on a Prime account, set their stats accordingly and wait for a test server reset (not sure how often they do this). Or you can always just roll up characters in the normal game, take them out in the wilds and test on them.

I've updated the original post with more info. Read if you want. I find this SMRv2 defense against 917 interesting. If there's interest out there, I'll keep plugging away at it when I get time. If there isn't really any interest, I'll just kind of leisurely poke at it here and there over time and maybe, one day, eventually get some solid info on it.