Whatever happened to "protect and serve" and the Andy Griffiths of the world?Now, they use sports cars to establish speed traps, and excercise zero discretion, even up to violating the law, during "click it or ticket weekend" or other funded aggressors.

I used to, and to point still do, respect police for what they do, but it seems in my state, they are more an instrument of revenue collection, then a force for bettering the community.

At least the noble sheep provides us warm sweaters. All your hides would provide are coward pants. - Dick Solomon

Not that I disagree, but you wanna' tell us why you're pissed with the po' po'?

Okay, I will.

Whatever happened to "protect and serve" and the Andy Griffiths of the world?Now, they use sports cars to establish speed traps, and excercise zero discretion, even up to violating the law, during "click it or ticket weekend" or other funded aggressors.

Not that I disagree, but you wanna' tell us why you're pissed with the po' po'?

Nothing that happened to me, but I'm drunk, so why not ;)

Okay, I will.

Whatever happened to "protect and serve" and the Andy Griffiths of the world?Now, they use sports cars to establish speed traps, and excercise zero discretion, even up to violating the law, during "click it or ticket weekend" or other funded aggressors.

I could make an argument that a police force needs to be as equipped as gangs and whatnot, but what makes me mad is the obvious trading of protection (parking a police car to slow down speeders) for increasing revenue (speed traps with a sports car; i.e. a car you wouldn't expect to be a cop, so one isn't scared into being safe).

I used to, and to point still do, respect police for what they do, but it seems in my state, they are more an instrument of revenue collection, then a force for bettering the community.

Whatever happened to "protect and serve" and the Andy Griffiths of the world?Now, they use sports cars to establish speed traps, and excercise zero discretion, even up to violating the law, during "click it or ticket weekend" or other funded aggressors.

I used to, and to point still do, respect police for what they do, but it seems in my state, they are more an instrument of revenue collection, then a force for bettering the community.

Somebody we know on this forum just got his wrist slapped for speeding and he's feeling really hurt about it. Any idea who that would be kahoss?

Whatever happened to "protect and serve" and the Andy Griffiths of the world?Now, they use sports cars to establish speed traps, and excercise zero discretion, even up to violating the law, during "click it or ticket weekend" or other funded aggressors.

I used to, and to point still do, respect police for what they do, but it seems in my state, they are more an instrument of revenue collection, then a force for bettering the community.

Somebody we know on this forum just got his wrist slapped for speeding and he's feeling really hurt about it. Any idea who that would be kahoss?

"The majority of people on this site think you are a cheap debater, so I will not engage you. I encourage others to do the same"

I guess it's difficult when dealing with police, because, at least to me, you have to be able to ride the fine line between respecting the person, and the office, but still remembering that that badge he or she has doesn't make him or her your friend, and you still need to stand up to them to exercise your rights.

My experiences working with the ACLU definitely have given me the instinct to be as noncooperative as possible to fully exercise your rights. But, what I WILL say (slightly unrelated to OP), is that a LOT of people who exercise their rights with police can't seem to do it respectfully and just end up being douchenozzles. It's really frustrating, actually.

It's not about reciprocation, it's just all about me,
a sycophantic, prophetic, Socratic junkie wannabe.
- The 1975, "The Sound"

Whatever happened to "protect and serve" and the Andy Griffiths of the world?Now, they use sports cars to establish speed traps, and excercise zero discretion, even up to violating the law, during "click it or ticket weekend" or other funded aggressors.

I used to, and to point still do, respect police for what they do, but it seems in my state, they are more an instrument of revenue collection, then a force for bettering the community.

Somebody we know on this forum just got his wrist slapped for speeding and he's feeling really hurt about it. Any idea who that would be kahoss?

I haven't had a ticket in over two years.My issue is the use of an undercover car to trap speeders, texters, and non-seatbelt wearers. The fact that a corvette (or some sports car) is a decoy, proves the police care more about revenue then safety.

In addition, there are "X weekends", where police do not exercise any discretion, as they are to ticket everyone, regardless of reason, who violates a particular law, such as, not wearing a seatbelt.Again, revenue before safety.

At least the noble sheep provides us warm sweaters. All your hides would provide are coward pants. - Dick Solomon

At 4/18/2014 12:12:10 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:I guess it's difficult when dealing with police, because, at least to me, you have to be able to ride the fine line between respecting the person, and the office, but still remembering that that badge he or she has doesn't make him or her your friend, and you still need to stand up to them to exercise your rights.

My experiences working with the ACLU definitely have given me the instinct to be as noncooperative as possible to fully exercise your rights. But, what I WILL say (slightly unrelated to OP), is that a LOT of people who exercise their rights with police can't seem to do it respectfully and just end up being douchenozzles. It's really frustrating, actually.

Yup, get caught speeding and then cry about it to exercise your rights! That's the best indication yet that it's got nothing to do with rights and everything to do with bad boys resenting authority.

The kind of people who would get rid of the police and let everyone speed wherever they like. Anarchy disguised as teabaggery. Not to be taken seriously. Reminds me of the time jpuppy got caught speeding and he cried all over his keyboard about it for days.

At 4/18/2014 12:12:10 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:I guess it's difficult when dealing with police, because, at least to me, you have to be able to ride the fine line between respecting the person, and the office, but still remembering that that badge he or she has doesn't make him or her your friend, and you still need to stand up to them to exercise your rights.

My experiences working with the ACLU definitely have given me the instinct to be as noncooperative as possible to fully exercise your rights. But, what I WILL say (slightly unrelated to OP), is that a LOT of people who exercise their rights with police can't seem to do it respectfully and just end up being douchenozzles. It's really frustrating, actually.

Yup, get caught speeding and then cry about it to exercise your rights! That's the best indication yet that it's got nothing to do with rights and everything to do with bad boys resenting authority.

The kind of people who would get rid of the police and let everyone speed wherever they like. Anarchy disguised as teabaggery. Not to be taken seriously. Reminds me of the time jpuppy got caught speeding and he cried all over his keyboard about it for days.

"The majority of people on this site think you are a cheap debater, so I will not engage you. I encourage others to do the same"

At 4/18/2014 12:12:10 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:I guess it's difficult when dealing with police, because, at least to me, you have to be able to ride the fine line between respecting the person, and the office, but still remembering that that badge he or she has doesn't make him or her your friend, and you still need to stand up to them to exercise your rights.

My experiences working with the ACLU definitely have given me the instinct to be as noncooperative as possible to fully exercise your rights. But, what I WILL say (slightly unrelated to OP), is that a LOT of people who exercise their rights with police can't seem to do it respectfully and just end up being douchenozzles. It's really frustrating, actually.

Yup, get caught speeding and then cry about it to exercise your rights! That's the best indication yet that it's got nothing to do with rights and everything to do with bad boys resenting authority.

The kind of people who would get rid of the police and let everyone speed wherever they like. Anarchy disguised as teabaggery. Not to be taken seriously. Reminds me of the time jpuppy got caught speeding and he cried all over his keyboard about it for days.

Um, that isn't even where I was going with that, so can you tone it down a bit? Thanks.

My point was just that generally police interactions are extremely difficult, especially when they try and, for instance, accuse you of a crime other than speeding and badger you for not consenting to a search of your car. Basically, and yes, it's not quite related to what Khaos was talking about specifically, I'm saying that even more specifically than getting pulled over, when you're talking to a police officer it's generally difficult because you don't want to be bullied by them and you want to protect your rights, particularly with searches, but you also should be a decent human being to another person (especially another person with authority over you, even if limited).

It's not about reciprocation, it's just all about me,
a sycophantic, prophetic, Socratic junkie wannabe.
- The 1975, "The Sound"

At 4/18/2014 12:12:10 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:I guess it's difficult when dealing with police, because, at least to me, you have to be able to ride the fine line between respecting the person, and the office, but still remembering that that badge he or she has doesn't make him or her your friend, and you still need to stand up to them to exercise your rights.

My experiences working with the ACLU definitely have given me the instinct to be as noncooperative as possible to fully exercise your rights. But, what I WILL say (slightly unrelated to OP), is that a LOT of people who exercise their rights with police can't seem to do it respectfully and just end up being douchenozzles. It's really frustrating, actually.

Yup, get caught speeding and then cry about it to exercise your rights! That's the best indication yet that it's got nothing to do with rights and everything to do with bad boys resenting authority.

The kind of people who would get rid of the police and let everyone speed wherever they like. Anarchy disguised as teabaggery. Not to be taken seriously. Reminds me of the time jpuppy got caught speeding and he cried all over his keyboard about it for days.

Um, that isn't even where I was going with that, so can you tone it down a bit? Thanks.

My point was just that generally police interactions are extremely difficult, especially when they try and, for instance, accuse you of a crime other than speeding and badger you for not consenting to a search of your car. Basically, and yes, it's not quite related to what Khaos was talking about specifically, I'm saying that even more specifically than getting pulled over, when you're talking to a police officer it's generally difficult because you don't want to be bullied by them and you want to protect your rights, particularly with searches, but you also should be a decent human being to another person (especially another person with authority over you, even if limited).

STop talking about imaginary scenarios that the teabaggers have dreamed up for you and talk about reality. Or, just stay with the issue of a dumb as5 kid speeding and then posting an obscene title because he can't take authority slapping his wrist.

And if your problem is police corruption then that's just an indication that your whole country has become corrupted by teabaggery. Kriste, they're still pretending that the Benghazi thing was something to do with Obama or Clinton not caring or lying or whatever it is today for wingnuts.

If you don't want to talk about Kahoss's issue then start a thread to complain about authority.