No one ever said freedom was safe. Upon true understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that freedom is the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guarantees in freedom but those one provides for themselves, at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk?

Who's to say that you can summarily rule OUT the influence of magentic forces regarding gravity, or say that there IS no link or effect on ellipses, or anything else for that matter? Perhaps that's the very reason WHY the "math" works out...

We, as humans are pretty good at "pattern recognition" and I submit that recognizing these "patterns" that one could form relationships between these forces and be able to express them mathematically without even realizing that there are other things at work (i.e. MAGNETISM)

Quoting: Dream Killer

Complete side-step.

I can construct an elliptical orbit mathematically, using ONLY A SINGLE CENTRAL ATTRACTOR. The model works; it has stable elliptical orbits.

I don't need to include other forces (magnetism, angels, the navigators of nibble-you firing retro-rockets) in order to make an elliptical orbit on paper, in a model, or in a physical demonstrator.

So why do I need to add mysterious forces to "explain" the Earth's orbit?

However, lines of magnetic force DO exert influences against gravity "waves" as this is shown quite easily with the repelling of magnets from one an another, or TO one another..

Quoting: Dream Killer

My FEET exert influence against gravity. I'm performing that trick right now (well, okay, another part of my anatomy is occupied with that chore at the moment, but anyhow!)

This doesn't mean feet have some magical property to make gravity more complicated.

And the direction you are arguing, you seem to be saying that I wouldn't fall down if I didn't have feet. I'm sorry, but gravity works quite fine without input from foot magic. The fact that I can chose to stand up on them does not constrain gravity to only work in their presence.

Dream Killer;I have noticed on other threads that alot of people are saying this is Venus. I don't know how to use any kind of internet tools to figure this out and confirm that fact, but I am curious to know what makes you think this is not Venus based on your binary star system theory. It looks to me like something might be behind Venus. Thread: BREAKING EARTH SHATTERING WORLD CHANGING NEWS_after comet imact_birthing of TWO SUNS IN VIEWThis is another thread that is discussing this area as well. Different theory though.

Dream Killer;I have noticed on other threads that alot of people are saying this is Venus. I don't know how to use any kind of internet tools to figure this out and confirm that fact, but I am curious to know what makes you think this is not Venus based on your binary star system theory. It looks to me like something might be behind Venus. Thread: BREAKING EARTH SHATTERING WORLD CHANGING NEWS_after comet imact_birthing of TWO SUNS IN VIEWThis is another thread that is discussing this area as well. Different theory though.

Quoting: teee 788586

I found this image and had no clue what it was! I "guessed" it could have been a remnant of the comet that crashed into the Sun last Sunday, OR it could have been something else. I put it up in the hopes of SOMEONE out there having an idea, and it worked. Check out the link from Tantalus!

Dream Killer;I have noticed on other threads that alot of people are saying this is Venus. I don't know how to use any kind of internet tools to figure this out and confirm that fact, but I am curious to know what makes you think this is not Venus based on your binary star system theory. It looks to me like something might be behind Venus. Thread: BREAKING EARTH SHATTERING WORLD CHANGING NEWS_after comet imact_birthing of TWO SUNS IN VIEWThis is another thread that is discussing this area as well. Different theory though.

I found this image and had no clue what it was! I "guessed" it could have been a remnant of the comet that crashed into the Sun last Sunday, OR it could have been something else. I put it up in the hopes of SOMEONE out there having an idea, and it worked. Check out the link from Tantalus!

However, lines of magnetic force DO exert influences against gravity "waves" as this is shown quite easily with the repelling of magnets from one an another, or TO one another..

My FEET exert influence against gravity. I'm performing that trick right now (well, okay, another part of my anatomy is occupied with that chore at the moment, but anyhow!)

This doesn't mean feet have some magical property to make gravity more complicated.

And the direction you are arguing, you seem to be saying that I wouldn't fall down if I didn't have feet. I'm sorry, but gravity works quite fine without input from foot magic. The fact that I can chose to stand up on them does not constrain gravity to only work in their presence.

Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 834029

Actually, it's the musculature structure which is the reason why you don't fall down, feet or no...

Magnets don't NEED feet or muscles... Things with magnetic fields around them don't need them either, all I'm saying is that these magnetic fields would most certainly impact and interact with gravity in ways that patterns would emerge...

Dream Killer;I have noticed on other threads that alot of people are saying this is Venus. I don't know how to use any kind of internet tools to figure this out and confirm that fact, but I am curious to know what makes you think this is not Venus based on your binary star system theory. It looks to me like something might be behind Venus. Thread: BREAKING EARTH SHATTERING WORLD CHANGING NEWS_after comet imact_birthing of TWO SUNS IN VIEWThis is another thread that is discussing this area as well. Different theory though.

I found this image and had no clue what it was! I "guessed" it could have been a remnant of the comet that crashed into the Sun last Sunday, OR it could have been something else. I put it up in the hopes of SOMEONE out there having an idea, and it worked. Check out the link from Tantalus!

Will do. Thanks

Quoting: teee 788586

Here's the link from Tantalus once again, in case you missed it...

Its venus, bro, might even be Mercury, depending where the camera is relative to earth.

This solar system map shows the current position of the planets, and it looks like Venus or Mercury could be just about where that "object" is.

Russian scientists are reporting today that our Sun’s worst Deep Solar Minimum in 100-years has been broken by a newly discovered comet currently plunging towards its surface that has increased this past months Sunspot Number to 15.7, the highest it has been in Solar Cycle 24 since March, 2008, and has caused a massive eruption of C-Class flares for the past 16 days.

Solar physicist David Hathaway of the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center had previously declared in 2008 about Solar Cycle 24 that it was “the blankest year of the space age”, a declaration he revised in 2009 when he stated “This is the quietest sun we've seen in almost a century”.

So powerful has this Deep Solar Minimum been during this cycle that scientists have reported a 50-year low in solar wind pressure, a 55-year low in solar radio emissions, and, most importantly, a 12-year low in solar “irradiance”; the sun's brightness which has dropped by 0.02% at visible wavelengths and 6% at extreme UV wavelengths since the solar minimum of 1996.

The critical danger to our Earth with the dropping of our Sun’s brightness lies in its “irradiance” levels being long associated with periods of Global cooling, including the catastrophic period between the 16th and 19th centuries named the Little Ice Age, a fact which American scientists have been accused of hiding from the public so as to further advance their now discredited theories of Planetary warming.

But to the greatest danger facing our World it is not from the horrific effects a massive Global Cooling event would have upon us, warn Russian scientists, but rather it is from the rising potential of our Earth being struck by, or “electrically interacting” with, a comet emanating from the currently destabilizing Oort Cloud from which these ‘space missiles’ are being increasingly hurled into our Solar System.

One such “electrical interaction” between these Oort Cloud “space missiles” plunging into our inner Solar System towards the Sun is occurring now, and offering further evidence supporting these Russian scientists claims after its discovery this week by Australian amateur astronomer Alan Watson who found this ‘new comet’ while inspecting images obtained by NASA’s STEREO-A's Hemispheric Imager. [Photo top left]

Important to note at this point are that Russian scientists stand adamantly opposed to their American counterparts over what constitutes a comet and defines their interactions in space. Where the American scientists state in their theories that comets are ‘dirty snowballs’ whose tails are formed by the ejection of an icy mass, Russian scientists ascribe to the theory of their being made of iron, and other such metals, and whose tails are formed by the electromagnetic interaction between them and the Sun. This is known as the Electric Comet Theory.

The comet currently plunging into the Sun whose arrival was ‘announced’ over a fortnight ago with the breaking of the Deep Solar Minimum and the mass ejection of solar flares supports the Russian scientist’s theories beyond all doubt, a fact, however, which the Americans will not acknowledge as their theories have never been designed for truth, but rather for the social engineering of their public to keep them as unaware as possible to what the future holds for our Earth.

When Pluto turned out to be much too small to tug strongly enough at the two giant planets, the search began for other unknown planets roaming the pitch-black outer regions of the solar system. Increasingly sophisticated observations have since revealed that there is in fact nothing anomalous in the orbits of Uranus and Neptune, but notions of distant, unseen planets still seem irresistible. Larger telescopes, better detectors and more comprehensive surveys have so far come up empty-handed, but none can rule out the possibility that there is an elusive planet just beyond observational reach. The hunt for Planet X is still on.

Do you understand the difference between a body massing around that of Mercury at 60 AU, and a body several times the mass of Jupiter that comes within 30 AU?

Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 834029

That is the reason I am attempting to get you to acknowledge the properties of the impact magnetic fields have on material objects. Under certain conditions, and we don't KNOW all the conditions that may be possible, but under SOME, at least, we KNOW that lines of magnetic force cancel OUT gravity!

This is the principle underlying the technology of certain high speed trains that ride just slightly elevated ABOVE the physical rail, held in place by MAGNETIC force...

If WE, with OUR limited "knowledge" of all things can accomplish THAT, what other possibilities could be out there that we cannot imagine?

Having said that, let me address your question. YES, I DO understand the difference in mass and the presumed attached gravity attached to mass and have some understanding also of torsion physics. I'm merely suggesting that under conditions that perhaps we CANNOT understand at all, magnetic fields may be interacting in ways that both lend stability to a "strange dynamic" while at OTHER times things get a little more chaotic.

Hmmm... No, but many of the theories man has come to understand, come directly from observations made of the universe. (read: star system)

These observations have led us to OTHER discoveries that has allowed our understanding to grow to the point where technologies can be developed surrounding these theories.

CAVEAT: Remember, ONE BASIC RULE OF PHYSICS: Theories are PROVEN by their EXCEPTIONS!

Quoting: Dream Killer

Sorry, don't like to seem like I keep hammering on you, but that's a misquote.

It more-or-less happens over the different meanings in English of the word "prove"; the statement works better in German, where it is rendered "probe" (which better approximates the second meaning.)

A theory is not made strong by discovering an exception. A theory is made strong when you encounter an apparent exception.

One of two things happens; either the exception is true and you've managed to falsify the theory. It is now time to look for a better one. Or, the exception turns out to be properly covered by the theory anyhow, (or it is possible -- as it is, say, with relativistic effects and newtonian mechanics -- to use the exception to limit the domain.)

The exception, then, tests the theory. It proofs it the way a proving ground does; the exception is, in fact, a test to destruction of the theory. If it survives the exception, it will be stronger.

Dream Killer;I have noticed on other threads that alot of people are saying this is Venus. I don't know how to use any kind of internet tools to figure this out and confirm that fact, but I am curious to know what makes you think this is not Venus based on your binary star system theory. It looks to me like something might be behind Venus. Thread: BREAKING EARTH SHATTERING WORLD CHANGING NEWS_after comet imact_birthing of TWO SUNS IN VIEWThis is another thread that is discussing this area as well. Different theory though.

I found this image and had no clue what it was! I "guessed" it could have been a remnant of the comet that crashed into the Sun last Sunday, OR it could have been something else. I put it up in the hopes of SOMEONE out there having an idea, and it worked. Check out the link from Tantalus!

Will do. Thanks

Here's the link from Tantalus once again, in case you missed it...

Its venus, bro, might even be Mercury, depending where the camera is relative to earth.

This solar system map shows the current position of the planets, and it looks like Venus or Mercury could be just about where that "object" is.

Hmmm... No, but many of the theories man has come to understand, come directly from observations made of the universe. (read: star system)

These observations have led us to OTHER discoveries that has allowed our understanding to grow to the point where technologies can be developed surrounding these theories.

CAVEAT: Remember, ONE BASIC RULE OF PHYSICS: Theories are PROVEN by their EXCEPTIONS!

Sorry, don't like to seem like I keep hammering on you, but that's a misquote.

It more-or-less happens over the different meanings in English of the word "prove"; the statement works better in German, where it is rendered "probe" (which better approximates the second meaning.)

A theory is not made strong by discovering an exception. A theory is made strong when you encounter an apparent exception.

One of two things happens; either the exception is true and you've managed to falsify the theory. It is now time to look for a better one. Or, the exception turns out to be properly covered by the theory anyhow, (or it is possible -- as it is, say, with relativistic effects and newtonian mechanics -- to use the exception to limit the domain.)

The exception, then, tests the theory. It proofs it the way a proving ground does; the exception is, in fact, a test to destruction of the theory. If it survives the exception, it will be stronger.

Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 834029

Thank-You! I APPRECIATE your feedback, time and critique.. We are ALL on a learning curve, so PLEASE.. feel FREE to "hammer" away....

WELL... It's mid January and we should be passing through the 3rd magnetic node ring of the approaching object, provided there IS one..Interestingly enough, last night, the island nation of Haiti was rocked by the worst earthquake in hundreds of years...

That's not the ONLY big EQ in recent days, it looks like we're in the middle of an "earthquake storm!"

Magnitude 5 and greater earthquakes located by the USGS and contributing networks in the last week (168 hours). Magnitudes 6 and above are in red. (Some early events may be obscured by later ones on the maps.)

The most recent earthquakes are at the top of the list. Times are in Coordinated Universal Time (UTC). Click on the word "map" to see a ten-degree tall map displaying the earthquake. Click on an event's "DATE" to get a detailed report.

Brown dwarfs never ignited so they don't give off light. They range is size from 2 times the size of Jupiter, to almost the size of our Sun. They only way scientists/astronomers/NASA now see them is because of the infrared light they give off. Infrared is a light spectrum the human eye can NOT see.

If they're outside our solar system, it's not likely that you could see them with the naked eye looking up at night to the sky. Any amateur astronomers with an average telescope also would NOT see them as they do not emit normal light for the eye to see. Stars/lights you do see in the night sky are real stars.

Brown dwarfs never ignited so they don't give off light. They range is size from 2 times the size of Jupiter, to almost the size of our Sun. They only way scientists/astronomers/NASA now see them is because of the infrared light they give off. Infrared is a light spectrum the human eye can NOT see.

If they're outside our solar system, it's not likely that you could see them with the naked eye looking up at night to the sky. Any amateur astronomers with an average telescope also would NOT see them as they do not emit normal light for the eye to see. Stars/lights you do see in the night sky are real stars.

Quoting: WWW 864465

Please understand the difference between size and mass. A planet can be the same size as jupiter, but 12 times as dense, making it 12 times more massive. Mass and Size are 2 different things. Size has more to do with Volume and Displacement than Mass. Please be privy to these concepts in your studys.