I could stand up in a room full of people and have a wee jibe at my colleagues, and them at me. We'd all be big enough to take it and laugh.

I don't really want to get into the discussion on this, but one thing that struck me when reading your post Elly, was that possibly a difference in that situation would be that your colleagues would be there with you- you'd very clearly be laughing with them. Whereas, in a situation like this, with the person or people not there,even if Gabby only ever meant it nicely, in a spirit of let's-laugh-with-them, that can get lost a bit because they're not there,and it can end up coming across as being something a bit different.

I dunno, maybe I'm totally wrong. I'm not going to watch the speech- I'm shattered tired tonight and just don't care enough to summon the energy! Just something that occurred to me when reading people's different points of view.

I have never been an advocate of cheap laughs at someone else's expense which is exactly what this was.

Exactly my point. Thanks Alis.

Just for the record, I don't really care that much what Andy would think. Andy's a big boy and can take care of himself. I just think it's too easy for certain people in the public eye to open their mouths in the name of a 'joke', making cheap remarks, and then use the 'out of context' argument.

As much as the Mail is at fault, Gabby Logan knows what the media is like. She might not have meant to be malicious, but she should think before she speaks.

Funny thing is I bet Andy didn't mind her comments at all, and he probably laughed at them himself.

Maybe, maybe not - we don't know. But the Mail article has prompted over 1200 comments from people who do, and who have reacted in a variety of ways and who aren't just laughing them off. (ok Mail readers). But the issue has now spread to other press - and who can say how much this sort of negativity affects public perceptions, influences sponsors etc.

It was a cheap throw-away comment which has just grown - and we all know what can happen to those. Gabby Logan should have known better.

Edit: Andy was really down and disappointed straight after that match - he was so up for it, and they just missed out. An example that any top sportsman would have felt the same - rather than for a personal dig.

^ I think we know that throwaway comments in the press really can have a bearing on public perceptions. Look at what Andy went through for years on the basis of one comment that the press twisted to suit themselves. The difference is that Andy was young at the time and hadn't really experienced how the press work. Gabby Logan is allegedly a mature woman and should have known better.

As I said before, I don't really care what Andy would think, even if he was to be rolling around the floor laughing. I just don't think getting cheap laughs at the expense of others is remotely funny.

I've looked at the clip and it is probably wrong to judge on such a short extract but I will anyway. It strikes me as a suitable talk from a journalist to budding journalists. Rubbish spouted for the effect from an empty-headed, silly woman. Just what they will need for their future careers.

I think this just goes to show that people in the public eye have to be so careful about what they say. When Gabby gave the talk in front of the students, the last thing she would've been expecting was the Daily Mail to pick up on the story and to use it for their own negative agenda.

I am sure Andy will not be bothered, he has been called a lot worse. Gaby Logan should be more considered in what she says. Look at all the rubbish Andy has had to put up with previously before winning a the Olympics, US Open and Wimbledon. She clearly does not know Andy well and that is her problem not Andy's.

Logan's disgusting remarks shouldn't be just written off as a joke. Jokes are supposed to be funny, this wasn't. Not at all. It was pure nastiness from a two faced bully, who should have been reprimanded by the BBC years ago.