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Ok, I think I'm ready for my write up. First off, I just want to give a huge thanks to all the organizers, streamers, everyone that helped, but most importantly, Triple Quadruple Mr. OG Kurropi. I'm not saying that there wouldn't be ST at EVO if not for him, but for sure it would never be on this scale. And for that, I am super grateful.

I've been going to EVO since 2010, and what makes EVO special to me will always be the people. All the buddies from all the corners of the globe coming together to share a common hobby. Without you guys, EVO wouldn't be worth going to. Don't get me wrong, I love ST, but if the scene was fulled with a bunch of assholes, I wouldn't spend the time and effort to show up. I wanted to start listing names here, but I have a short memory so I don't want to leave anyone out, which I'm sure I would have. You guys know who you are. I also want to apologize to a lot of the guys that I just met for the first time but didn't have enough time to hang out. It's not an excuse, but EVO is too big and there isn't enough time to hang out with everyone all at once. I was going to list names here too, but I had to back up and delete the list. I know I'm going to leave someone out here too.

Highlights of the event had to be the Afro and Damdai show. Those guys proved time and time again that they are the best in the US. They both have that X factor that separates them from the pack. Shout outs to you guys. I tried to keep my distance from Damdai in the past to keep up that East Coast vs West Coast rivalry, but that's just stupid. The scene is too small, and Damdizzle is too cool guy. You have to consciously try and make a huge effort to not like the guy. I'm not going to lie, I used to tell everyone that Damdai isn't that good, because I never saw him do anything fancy. But now I realize, he IS that good, but because he never does anything fancy. He does what he has to and nothing more. He never misses what he's trying to do because he never over extends himself. That in it self is a huge factor for his wins. Sorry I underestimated you Damdizzy. Our skill level is miles apart, I need to pick your brain on how you stay focused when ever we get the chance.

Besides the tourney, the other thing that was super fun was the casuals in Damdai and Mike's room. I know I came in a bit tipsy so I apologize for being obnoxious. I think that was really fun because after the tourney was over, everyone could actually loosen up and just have a good time. The ST games was really fun, but I think next year, I would prefer less tourneys and more time to hang out casually like we did that night.

Welp, it's 2:16am and I'm kind of tipsy so it's time to sigh off. ST community, I love all of you, you are the best community in the fight game scene. I'll leave you with some wise words from a wise man I once met.

PS. Ok, so I just proof read this shit and I only mentioned 4 names. Thats pretty shitty. I had a few glasses of wine and I'm a bit tipsy, so I apologize profusely if I missed anyone. But here I go. In no particular order what so every. If I did miss you name, I owe you drinks at the next EVO. One love. And that love is ST.

Moocus
Synco,
Red Venom,
MongoloRobocop
Kuroppi
Muffinman
DG and V
Fromo
Ryan
Karl
Mondo
Stacy
Hyphenated
PlanetRV
Digital Infamy
Shotosallday
Ganelon
Mars
Krost
Millertime
Eltrouble
DBOstick
Faka
Fuck, banging my head here. There is a ton more.
Paulcachu
Mikeidge
UltrafuckingCombo
Fudd my negro
Trust
Vextax
Darkness
Georam
That bunch came in a burst, lol
Cvital
Hadoken6969
Damdai
Afro
Moonchild
Afro mother fucking cole
Okay, I'm fucking drunk. I cheated and went to the brackets. At this point, if I still missed you, I really owe you a drink or I just don't like you.
Zas, fuck bro, I owe you drinks
rekkaken, drinks
Gamble, same
Bernie, sorry, drinks
James chen, drinks
sweet JV and megaman, drinks
anyone else i didn't mention after here is not because I don't like you, I never got to meet you. hopefully that changes next year.

PPS
All this ST recently had made me a pretty shitty hubby. I'm going to take some time off to make up for that. So sorry if I disappear for a while. But don't worry, I'll be back like that thing you caught in Bangkok before you want it. Know it I mean. You know. Sir Papercups signing off.

lol, zoolander, owe you a fucking drink lil guy. Make it a double.
oh shit, I forgot kusumundo, that guy is my fucking hero. I need to force feed him a bottle of liquor. lolz.

ok, i'm paranoid, I didn't expect to spend that much money on other peoples alcohol, but its late, I need to hit the post button. if I left you out, fuck you. just kidding, lolz. love you especially if I left you out at this point.

I'd love to repeat what Papercut just said, as that was pure awesomeness, but I'd rather just piggyback what he wrote. In short, I agree completely that our community is above and beyond awesome; it's just as fun hanging and talking with everyone as it is playing matches. Congrats to everyone in this community for keeping the game alive and strong in the USA!

Special thanks to Thrust07 for literally doing 90% of the player calling and for updating brackets, calling matches, etc. Same thing to Fudd for helping with planning, brackets, name calling, etc. Another BIG thanks to Watson for supporting the entire ST Revival from the beginning. One more thanks to Armando for bringing professional streaming to our community without asking for anything in return. Even more thanks to Sergjiev/Arkadeum, Ryan/Pockyless/BlastCity, Andy/ParoDa, eltrouble/MillerTime, Voltech, Bernie, Undamned, and Papasi for supporting like crazy and working so hard to bring quality ST to everyone. Last special thanks to Dark Gaiden and Vintage for moving ST toward a better future through testing platforms, transporting equipment, purchasing equipment and parts, and coming out to support as much as possible. ALL OF YOU GUYS ROCK!!!

Ok, one last thanks to all of the Don't Blow This crew for maintaining ST prior to its resurgence in the West Coast.

I'm not going to make another list, but tons of love and thanks to everyone on Papercut's list and more.

Hadouken69: They were REAL chicken strips :P

"That you float along in the ocean and live a life of peace does not come from your own resourcefulness." - Demon's Sermon on Martial Arts

Damn you undamned. Even though I cheated looking at the brackets, I missed you. I spent a good 30 mins or so hanging out and chating about your supergun too. I might not have enough money to go evo next year. Owe too many people drinks. Speacial shout outs to undamned for solving the logistics problem of ST tourneys. I have this really eerie feeling im still leaving people out.

i was at work when i played back that vm on speaker. had to immediately mute it lmao

luckily it was my cell not my home phone, you guys are nuts (apparently i was told that drunk papercut is the culprit)

eltrouble "I doubt that ST will be on the main stream ever again."
OhNuki: Real men play ST!!
James Chen: there is something special about playing ST on a cab. It just feels so goooooood.
Super Turbo Hitbox & safe jump guide http://www.strevival.com/hitbox/

There's a lot to say about my experience at evo, but the best part to me was the main motherfucker afro legends. His dedication to the game is something I have never seen from any American player. He's there just to see the highest level of play reached from within, and that's why he's such a machine. He doesn't get shitfaced cause he can't win, or complain about matchups, or whine about the setup, or whatever it is that a lot of us have been guilty of. Much respect to kuroppi for making all this possible, damdai for hosting the ST session and his consistent performance as a top player, Mars for showing us a level of play that an American can reach with such a difficult character like Guile; Man I can go on, you guys are great, especially the EC crew.

I hope the fire inside burns on Afro, and I hope to give you a better challenge next year. You are the player to I look up to the most.

GGS Guys. Don't let ST die. Ever. You don't have to dedicate all your time to it, but support it any way you can, going to evo, local majors and gatherings, even playing on ggpo and watching streams. EVO is only once a year, for a few days, and that's all it takes.

Thanks ultra, I appreciate the kind words but there are a lot better players out there. Not tryna say I got lucky like pharrell, but I was in the right place at the right time and the chips so happened to fall my way.

I really enjoyed the ST games. These tournaments are getting better and better. Better recordings, better setup, more players, etc. However, if my feedback is worth anything, there are few things I missed compared to the 2012 ToL:

1) Having the finals of ToL up on the stage was giving it more hype and make it look more like another EVO game setup instead of a side tourney. It also seems a better setup for the crowd to watch and cheer on players.
2) Playing the ToL finals at a later time in the day seemed to help to have the players focused on ST and not have any schedule conflicts with the other games at evo, specially for the japanese players.
3) I missed not seeing the french players that showed up last year and their involvement (everyone remembers the documentary). Was x-mania europe counting as a qualifier this year?

As a side note, everyone praises the hard work of the organizers for making the ST games so amazing but during the tournament many players were giving the organizers a hard time having them to chase people to be on time and follow the schedule. I didn't have that feeling watching the other evo games and I think players should help more on that aspect to keep ST a successful tournament.

Sorry if I got something wrong. I wasn't there in person and I can only give my feedback as online spectator.

Update: As I say in a later post the list of things I liked is way longer but they have already been said by other people. Congrats to strevival crew to make such a great event for ST fans!

Post edited by yogaboy on July 2013

Easiest solution that would please almost everyone -> a decent port. That is, the DC version of ST running on a PS4/XBOX.
Difficult part -> get capcom involved. Whoever achieves that gets the golden egg and solves the problem for once and for all. Period

I really enjoyed the ST games. These tournaments are getting better and better. Better recordings, better setup, more players, etc. However, if my feedback is worth anything, there are few things I missed compared to the 2012 ToL:

1) Having the finals of ToL up on the stage was giving it more hype and make it look more like another EVO game setup instead of a side tourney. It also seems a better setup for the crowd to watch and cheer on players.
2) Playing the ToL finals at a later time in the day seemed to help to have the players focused on ST and not have any schedule conflicts with the other games at evo, specially for the japanese players.
3) I missed not seeing the french players that showed up last year and their involvement (everyone remembers the documentary). Was x-mania europe counting as a qualifier this year?

As a side note, everyone praises the hard work of the organizers for making the ST games so amazing but during the tournament many players were giving the organizers a hard time having them to chase people to be on time and follow the schedule. I didn't have that feeling watching the other evo games and I think players should help more on that aspect to keep ST a successful tournament.

Sorry if I got something wrong. I wasn't there in person and I can only give my feedback as online spectator.

We were very fortunate that EVO let us have the top 8 on stage last year. That's not going to be possible every year and there are too many newer games to compete with now to expect it to be on stage again.

Doing four tournaments in two days was very ambitious and we did pull it off but I think if we did another ST GAMES in the future, running three tournaments would be better. Four was a little too hectic and tiring both for the organizers and the players.

There wasn't a French "qualifier" this year, since ST GAMES wasn't a qualifier event but a tournament where everyone at EVO could enter. We would definitely welcome including a French (or other countries) qualifiers in the future though, if it applies to the tournament we are running.

Thanks for the feedback! Feedback from viewers and players are welcome as it helps us plan for next year.

Thanks guys for the answers. Please take it as a feedback from a viewer. The list of good of things I liked is obviously longer but they have already been said by other people. This comes from a true fan of the strevival organization.

@dngr: I apologize again for the things I got wrong. I understand that many things don't depend on us (the ST crew and fans) and that we are limited by what EVO lets us do.

In other words, I am trying to give the typical 'feedback for improvement' that organizers usually want after an event. Please don't take it as if I am criticizing anyone's job

Post edited by yogaboy on July 2013

Easiest solution that would please almost everyone -> a decent port. That is, the DC version of ST running on a PS4/XBOX.
Difficult part -> get capcom involved. Whoever achieves that gets the golden egg and solves the problem for once and for all. Period

I think there was one point on the second day with 13 hundred viewers or so. I don't remember how many they were during the grand finals. I saw the rest of the footage on replays but unfortunately you can't see the view count there :(

Easiest solution that would please almost everyone -> a decent port. That is, the DC version of ST running on a PS4/XBOX.
Difficult part -> get capcom involved. Whoever achieves that gets the golden egg and solves the problem for once and for all. Period

I really enjoyed the ST games. These tournaments are getting better and better. Better recordings, better setup, more players, etc. However, if my feedback is worth anything, there are few things I missed compared to the 2012 ToL:

1) Having the finals of ToL up on the stage was giving it more hype and make it look more like another EVO game setup instead of a side tourney. It also seems a better setup for the crowd to watch and cheer on players.
2) Playing the ToL finals at a later time in the day seemed to help to have the players focused on ST and not have any schedule conflicts with the other games at evo, specially for the japanese players.
3) I missed not seeing the french players that showed up last year and their involvement (everyone remembers the documentary). Was x-mania europe counting as a qualifier this year?

As a side note, everyone praises the hard work of the organizers for making the ST games so amazing but during the tournament many players were giving the organizers a hard time having them to chase people to be on time and follow the schedule. I didn't have that feeling watching the other evo games and I think players should help more on that aspect to keep ST a successful tournament.

Sorry if I got something wrong. I wasn't there in person and I can only give my feedback as online spectator.

Update: As I say in a later post the list of things I liked is way longer but they have already been said by other people. Congrats to strevival crew to make such a great event for ST fans!

1) Like previously mentioned, we're not in control of whether or not we get Evo spot time on the main stream. The primary issue this year was that there were NINE headliner games this year. Nine. That's unprecedented in Evo's history, and there was no way we'd get any time to shine on ST. We try to get ST up on the main stage, but since ST is such a niche game that draws in comparatively less viewers than in more modern games, it's always a struggle.

2) Agreed. Unfortunatley, with this year's format, we had very little time to give everyone a break to focus on the game at a later time. 4 tournaments in 2 days is a pretty brutal affair that took its toll on everybody from the players, TOs, commentators, casters, and spectators. Time was in thin supply, so we tried our best to get done as quickly and efficiently as possible.

3) We missed seeing them too. This year was an open tournament, so they were more than welcome to join us. But I understand that it's quite a significant financial and time investment to come to Evo. Special shoutout to PlanetRV from Germany. This was his first year at Evo, and he came to only play in ST. He has only been playing the game a few months, with some prior HDR experience, and most definitely enjoyed his time out here. It took him 30 hours of total travelling time to get from his home to Vegas, and I really enjoyed seeing that kind of dedication and passion.

As far as having to chase players down, it's a common problem. TOs would love it if players dutifully stayed the entire day and were ready to play their match at a moment's notice, but practically, it's not always going to happen. The majority of hold-ups for any and all tournaments, is trying to chase down players and have them run their matches.

We missed you at Evo buddy. We haven't seen each other in a long time. How's everything going for you?

Yeah, I wanted to go. But, I just simply couldn't due to my injury. I wasn't even able to sleep in a bad at that time. However, I am healing up nicely. Still can't use a joystick well - but its only a matter of time.

We missed you at Evo buddy. We haven't seen each other in a long time. How's everything going for you?

Yeah, I wanted to go. But, I just simply couldn't due to my injury. I wasn't even able to sleep in a bad at that time. However, I am healing up nicely. Still can't use a joystick well - but its only a matter of time.

Give my best to Miller Time.

holy shit, what the fuck happen? Are you ok bro? How did you get injured that bad?

holy shit, what the fuck happen? Are you ok bro? How did you get injured that bad?

Thanks for the concern.

It was a freak weight lifting accident. I was tired and had a lot on my mind, so I wasn't paying attention. Which is normally the perfect combination for self injury.

I ruptured my pectorals major tendon.

I was in the middle of my set, 230x6x3 ( a reasonable weight and manageable ). I burned out in set 3 - I started re-rack the weight and I missed the hook by a fractions of an inch. This caused the bar to ricochet of the rack with a lot of force and velocity in an awkward angle. I tried to correct movement, but doing so put my arm in a awkward position and pop, there goes my pec - I ripped it right off the bone.

After they reattached the tendon, I couldn't sleep on a bed b/c it caused my arm to fall in certain positions that pulled on operated area, which was extremely discomforting. Anyway, its been 5 weeks since they reattached it, and I have bee working with my Physical Therapist and still slowly getting better. They say the total recovery time is 9 months to a year.

But, to be honest I am just happy they could fix it. There are many injuries that are much worse. So, I am gratefully that a full (or 90%/95%) recovery is expected.

I wasn't ready for that. What actually happened sounds much more painful than what I imagined. I thought you were in a cast or something, but nope, muscle ripped off bone. yikes. what were you doing, bench press? get better soon buddy. You were missed at EVO 2013.

I wasn't ready for that. What actually happened sounds much more painful than what I imagined. I thought you were in a cast or something, but nope, muscle ripped off bone. yikes. what were you doing, bench press? get better soon buddy. You were missed at EVO 2013.

Kinda late on this but that's what I get for not really keeping up with SRK lately. Here is my cliff's notes version writeup, which I'm sure will be long enough anyway.

I'm not as good as I should be with keeping up with everyone's names, not just for games but life in general. So I'll spare the pain of excluding anyone and just thank everyone as a whole that I was fortunate enough to work with, play with, and just be around. This includes Evo weekend, the time spent planning for ST games and even ToL last year for the parts I was privileged enough to support. You guys are all great and in my time playing and supporting fighting game tournaments over the last 15 years or so, you are among the best people I've gotten to know and work with. Which is amazing to me that I've gotten to know so many of you at this point, considering that I don't play online at all. No GGPO or XBL/PSN, whatever. From what I've heard, maybe it's best that I stay that way at the expense of bettering my game haha. Hats off to the ST players and organizers for being fine people first, in addition to keeping your head on your shoulders collectively. Believe me, this is definitely not the case across the entire FGC. For the record, I hate that stupid term btw...

From my perspective, ST Games and ToL were a huge success both as a whole and individually. Again, this all points to the people running it, playing in it, and definitely Evo staff for supporting and allowing us (mainly you guys) to do what you do. I don't think anyone here doesn't want ST to be on the main stage but it's not our decision. I would also think that anyone that was at Evo last year for ToL would agree with me that I was more than thrilled to see how much space we had this year for ST Games. Night and day, really.

With regards to the cabs, well that really ties into my future as well. As of now, I just don't see myself playing or supporting the scene nearly as much as I've been lately or in the past. I've already cut down a ton of my playing time for whatever games that I did still play and I'm likely on purpose gonna continue to cut down the supporting efforts as well. It's just life taking over as time goes by, so I'll leave it at that. As far as how that relates to ST events at Evo in the future, as long as Evo stays in Vegas I will make every effort to bring my equipment and support the ST Revival effort any way that Kuroppi and co. ask me to. But at this point, those efforts are not gonna include hauling cabs back and forth. This is the 3rd time I've done it and, despite this year being the smoothest process by far, it's still a logistical nightmare for me to continue to do this. There are other factors driving this decision, but that's what it really boils down to. Lucky for us we now have a viable solution in UD-CPS2. All we need going forward are CRTs and optionally a stable playing surface/structure, which is potentially tons easier than hauling cabs around anyway. UD-CPS2 is and should be the present and future of offline ST events in this part of the world. We all should be supporting the efforts of Undamned rather than hold on to the hope of having cabs every year. They are nice and I personally prefer playing on cabs for a lot of reasons, but it's almost 100% not gonna happen again with my own cabs. Hopefully everyone enjoyed them because I brought them every year specifically for everyone to enjoy.

I travel somewhat regularly for work, so hopefully I'll continue to run into more of you in the future. Can't wait to meet even more of you and get some games and good times in. For anyone that promised me drinks, I'll be sure to collect when I'm in town, wherever and whenever that is.

ST Games was awesome, I caught most of the stream and glad to see all those tournaments go smoothly. Well the finals of one of them (the ratio tournament?) only showed the Damdai and Afro's faces as they played but no complaints- thank to Mando and guys for all the work streaming it! I saw MillerTime get really far in the brackets too, good job for a new player with Honda no less. But what happened with Kusumondo?! I just remember him blocking about 16 low tigers from Ultracombo at full screen, in two sets of the ratio tournament. I kept waiting for a hard punch headbutt but maybe the recovery time on the tiger shots are just too quick? In any case, Ultra did enough high tigers too to keep up the guessing game. And after all the tournaments leading right up to the grand final of the last one this year, you gotta love how razor close the medal count was between Damdai and Afro Legends. btw how do the medals get counted in terms of how many silvers equal a gold in terms of total points count?

Sorry to hear about the accident, fatboy, heal that up and hopefully we'll see you again by next year and more commentating.

I think Kusumondo was really tired the first day since he arrived the day of the tournament. He pretty much started playing in the tournament right after he arrived/checked in. Also, maybe his reactions are becoming old man reactions. :P