Ole BRW(the non-poster) and I had the regular Napa and the Estate today at lunch. No question the Estate is the more concentrated of the 2 but done believe enny-body with a working tongue(wif the exception of herr Buck-Snortz) would spit out the Napa. Lovely juice that is dead on varietal. Needs another 1 for the Estate to shed some solid tannins but still killer juice. Should hold at this level for at least another 6-8. Both hit the 90+ mark. WW