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The One Minute Rational Argument for Gay Marriage

March 30, 2013

Chip Joyce eloquently makes the argument for homosexuals being legally allowed to marry:

Marriage has been defined as heterosexual only because of religion. Period.

It is obvious to honest people who don’t live in complete seclusion, that gay couples exist with the exact same relationship as married people have, and they need and deserve the same legal recognition and protection.

The definition of marriage has been wrong because of religious bigotry. The concept of marriage applies to gay couples too, and the definition needs to be corrected to accurately refer to the concept.

It’s like this: a bad definition of swans said they are white, and then there was a black one. The concept “swan” is the same, regardless, and the definition is demonstrably flawed. In the same way, there is no reason for “man and wife” to be in the definition of “marriage” any more than the color white be in the definition of “swan.” “Man and wife” and “white” are non-essential and should be omitted. Marriage is a type of relationship between two consenting adults.

“…and they need and deserve the same legal recognition and protection.”

What protection does that afford them?

Marriage is not a type of relationship between two consenting adults. It is a relationship between the state and the wedded, where the state can change the rules at any time.

Whatever protections you think you are getting, you are also getting crippling restrictions. The rational course of action is to mitigate the “loss” of protections by finding an alternative means to secure the desired benefits.

This kind of push for “equal rights” should be going in the exact opposite direction: One should not guide homosexuals towards the realm of sacrifice from which they are now relatively free, one should guide heterosexuals out of the modern, inherently sacrificial marriage trap and into a future of being able to write their own “marriage” contracts, from scratch — with no added state obligations, except where unspecified.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=719505078 Cass Michael

AGREED! Blake Fillipi said this at the Rhode Island Same Sex Marriage debates a couple months ago.

So the argument goes that because you disagree with the definition you demand that it be changed. How very despotic of you.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003648681619 William Xucla

Ayn Rand would have vehemently DISAGREED with you about gay marriage: she viewed marriage as a contract for the protection of children; she viewed homosexuality as highly immoral, because it was a negation of metaphysical reality[look at your bodies]; Ayn Rand worshipped reality and man’s mind…anything that contradicted that was immoral and therefore EVIL.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=719505078 Cass Michael

Singing is therefore a negation of metaphysical reality, because the human mouth was built for eating.

http://www.facebook.com/ian.holm1 Ian Holm

This isn’t a rational argument at all. Words have definitions and the definition of marriage is the union between a man and a woman. I agree gay couples should have the same legal protections as married couples, but you can’t call it marriage because it isn’t marriage.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=719505078 Cass Michael

then change the definition. Words have definitions, but only because humans gave them those definitions. Besides, we don’t know if the definitions infused into the word “marriage”, by its creators, were dependent on the fact that it had to be “man and woman”, or if it referred to “two partners joining together”

stone7

The definition of marriage has been wrong because of religious bigotry. — quote

If this is true, then what does wife, husband, mother, father and all concepts regarding marriage mean? All these concepts will be obliterated if a new gender is invented and pretended to be valid.

Who’s your daddy? Take your pick! It’s crazy. And it does matter.

There’s even talk now about letting people choose which restroom based on their gender identity. If you cannot see the mockery, you are hopelessly lost. And what you are doing is not thinking.

I’m absolutely for homosexuals being allowed to join legally.

But I’m absolutely against concept destruction.

And for that matter, I don’t want to have to utter a paragraph each time I say wife, husband, mother, father and all the associated concepts I haven’t thought of.

The leftist dreamworld has become so tiresome and annoying. When will it be enough? Only when America and classic liberalism is destroyed or so confused and broken that it doesn’t matter. And then what will the left have won? Only what they’ve ever won, death and misery.

Then what? America will have to be reinvented again. Lefty is not so much evil as he is annoying. And that’s kinda worse.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=719505078 Cass Michael

If leftists are only annoying, not evil, then why fight them?

the answer is: you have a wife and a wife, husband and a husband, father and father, or mother and mother.

Churchill4President

Society has a vested interest in it’s propagation. Society can only reproduce by the union of a man and a women. The highest calling in society is marriage because married couples take on the vital task of creating new people. The state should be promoting and protecting traditional marriage for those reasons. Successful thriving societies that promote traditional marriage survive. Societies that do not promote marriage and instead promote promiscuity and homosexuality go extinct. Case closed. (Note: I didn’t mention religion once).