meninlove said Socal, as SB is such a penultimate liar who's been caught red-handed, so to speak, I'm surprised you'd say that (and don't forget he 'claimed' he doesn't like your Republican party either).

My response is based on my opinion that his views are generally in the mainstream and best interest of his and my country. I don't agree with his position that all incumbents should be thrown out, because many, mostly on the Republican side, did not support the major legislation of the current administration.

Whatever his popularity or lack of same may be on RJ, I am a bit put off to hear it suggested that the US is not his country, especially by non-US citizens. I have a number of friends in other countries, including Canada. We have spirited discussions at times, but there is a line I personally would not cross sometimes in style, sometimes in substance in commenting about another country with its citizens.

southbeach1500 saidWhy are all you liberals so consumed and obsessed with the Tea Party?

Surely, if the Democrat / liberal "way" is superior, you have nothing to fear from this "Tea Party" with their barbaric, bigoted, hateful, view of the country.

People are "obsessed" with the Tea Party because if they actually gain power, they have made it clear it will they will try to block equal rights for gays.

I think people make a serious mistake when talking / thinking about the Tea Party: That it is actually a cohesive, organized political party like the Republican or Democrat party.

It is not.

It is more along the lines of a "spirit" of a political party without the top down control structure found in the Republican and Democrat parties.

And as for the Tea Party having "made it clear it will they will try to block equal rights for gays" - again, it's not a structured, formalized political party, so anyone who is claiming to be a part of the Tea Party and saying such things is only speaking for his/her self.

And, while it's debatable if the initial Tea Partiers were grassroots, the "movement" was long ago captured by monied interests who do are pushing policies that are against the interests of most tea baggers.

Christian73 saidAnd, while it's debatable if the initial Tea Partiers were grassroots, the "movement" was long ago captured by monied interests who do are pushing policies that are against the interests of most tea baggers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/20/karl-denninger-tea-party_n_770108.htmlAccording to Denninger, "Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Bob Barr, and douchebag groups such as the Tea Party Patriots" are to blame for the bastardization of a movement that now seems focused on "Guns, gays, God," instead of the Tea Party's original mission: to castigate the federal government for supporting the "rampant theft" of taxpayer dollars that went toward "propping up FAILED private businesses."

Here's the down and dirty of what Denninger believes the Tea Party was all about:

In short, The Tea Party was and is about the the corruption of American Politics and the blatant and outrageous theft from all Americans that has resulted. It is about personal responsibility and enforcement of the law against those who have robbed, financially ****d and pillaged the nation.

Denninger's analysis of the movement now led by former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin and represented by GOP candidates such as Sharron Angle, Rand Paul and Christine O'Donnell is biting:

Tea Party my ass. This was nothing other than The Republican Party stealing the anger of a population that was fed up with The Republican Party's own theft of their tax money at gunpoint to bail out the robbers of Wall Street and fraudulently redirecting it back toward electing the very people who stole all the ****ing money!

Ummm... Because they are ruining my country since they became the party in complete power of the Congress and the Presidency in January of 2009.

Now go back to minding your own Canadian business.

While you should mind the facts. The Dems did NOT have complete control of the US Congress in Jan, 2009. The Minnesota Senate race dragged out until Al Franken was finally able to take his seat in July, 2009. Only then did the Dems have 58 Senators, 2 shy of a 60-vote super majority to overcome Republican filibusters. Two independents do caucus with the Dems, but they are not reliable.

Barely a month later Sen. Edward Kennedy died (and had been seriously ill and not regularly attending sessions before then). He was replaced by a Republican, reducing the Dem total to 57, and eliminating any possibility of breaking Republican filibusters.

So this "complete power" you claim in Congress lasted all of about 6 weeks. And only if you count the Independent Senators. But keep up the myth, I'm sure many of you Republicans really believe these lies.

Christian73 saidAnd, while it's debatable if the initial Tea Partiers were grassroots, the "movement" was long ago captured by monied interests who do are pushing policies that are against the interests of most tea baggers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/20/karl-denninger-tea-party_n_770108.htmlAccording to Denninger, "Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Bob Barr, and douchebag groups such as the Tea Party Patriots" are to blame for the bastardization of a movement that now seems focused on "Guns, gays, God," instead of the Tea Party's original mission: to castigate the federal government for supporting the "rampant theft" of taxpayer dollars that went toward "propping up FAILED private businesses."

Here's the down and dirty of what Denninger believes the Tea Party was all about:

In short, The Tea Party was and is about the the corruption of American Politics and the blatant and outrageous theft from all Americans that has resulted. It is about personal responsibility and enforcement of the law against those who have robbed, financially ****d and pillaged the nation.

Denninger's analysis of the movement now led by former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin and represented by GOP candidates such as Sharron Angle, Rand Paul and Christine O'Donnell is biting:

Tea Party my ass. This was nothing other than The Republican Party stealing the anger of a population that was fed up with The Republican Party's own theft of their tax money at gunpoint to bail out the robbers of Wall Street and fraudulently redirecting it back toward electing the very people who stole all the ****ing money!