I don't know if anyone else has noticed, or even feels this way, but it appears as though the board has become almost every bit as stressful and unpleasant as it was prior to Wayne having gone on vacation. During his absence, I saw posters having a good time, posting frequently and in general enjoying the board for what it is supposed to be. However, since Wayne returned, and over and above his attacks against certain people and moderators, and not taking into consideration that many of the topics that were the source of antagonism prior to his departure have been re-addressed, the board is now almost the opposite of what it was during his absence. Participation has declined considerably in just a couple of days. Content I find highly objectionalbe has been introduced without fear of reprisal. In short, the board has once again become the battleground through only a select few can dominate.

I believe the board is no longer a venue for equalized debate or discussion, and has been returned to the state of "Wayne's World" as it was prior to his vacation where only a select few are entitled to speak freely and without fear of reprisal. I'm sadly disappointed as the last week or so was quite a pleasant change and very enjoyable.

I don't know if anyone else has noticed, or even feels this way, but it appears as though the board has become almost every bit as stressful and unpleasant as it was prior to Wayne having gone on vacation. During his absence, I saw posters having a good time, posting frequently and in general enjoying the board for what it is supposed to be. However, since Wayne returned, and over and above his attacks against certain people and moderators, and not taking into consideration that many of the topics that were the source of antagonism prior to his departure have been re-addressed, the board is now almost the opposite of what it was during his absence. Participation has declined considerably in just a couple of days. Content I find highly objectionalbe has been introduced without fear of reprisal. In short, the board has once again become the battleground through only a select few can dominate.

I believe the board is no longer a venue for equalized debate or discussion, and has been returned to the state of "Wayne's World" as it was prior to his vacation where only a select few are entitled to speak freely and without fear of reprisal. I'm sadly disappointed as the last week or so was quite a pleasant change and very enjoyable.

I strongly believe that just the opposite is true. The integrity, seriousness and fairness on this forum and meaningful discussion regarding animal rights and welfare has been restored which was severely lacking and had quickly deteriorated during Wayne's absence.

I consider the above post nothing more but a continuous personal bias and a smear without any factual or rational substance or merit.

I don't know if anyone else has noticed, or even feels this way, but it appears as though the board has become almost every bit as stressful and unpleasant as it was prior to Wayne having gone on vacation. During his absence, I saw posters having a good time, posting frequently and in general enjoying the board for what it is supposed to be. However, since Wayne returned, and over and above his attacks against certain people and moderators, and not taking into consideration that many of the topics that were the source of antagonism prior to his departure have been re-addressed, the I strongly believe that just the opposite is true. The integrity, seriousness and fairness on this forum and meaningful discussion regarding animal rights and welfare has been restored which was severely lacking and had quickly deteriorated during Wayne's absence.

I consider the above post nothing more but a continuous personal bias and a smear without any factual or rational substance or merit.

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The words pot and kettle come to mind.Just because you can't get away with your aggression and increasing nastiness, you whinge and gripe like a schoolkid who can't get his own way.

I for one have noticed the change in you over the last few months.If you can't stand the heat....Bu**er off.

I don't know if anyone else has noticed, or even feels this way, but it appears as though the board has become almost every bit as stressful and unpleasant as it was prior to Wayne having gone on vacation. During his absence, I saw posters having a good time, posting frequently and in general enjoying the board for what it is supposed to be. However, since Wayne returned, and over and above his attacks against certain people and moderators, and not taking into consideration that many of the topics that were the source of antagonism prior to his departure have been re-addressed, the I strongly believe that just the opposite is true. The integrity, seriousness and fairness on this forum and meaningful discussion regarding animal rights and welfare has been restored which was severely lacking and had quickly deteriorated during Wayne's absence.

I consider the above post nothing more but a continuous personal bias and a smear without any factual or rational substance or merit.

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The words pot and kettle come to mind.Just because you can't get away with your aggression and increasing nastiness, you whinge and gripe like a schoolkid who can't get his own way.

I for one have noticed the change in you over the last few months.If you can't stand the heat....Bu**er off.

Please, you should at least try to post so not to confuse the other readers to who said what in your posts.

If you look above at the second paragraph of roadside's quote is what I should be quoted saying.

I strongly believe that just the opposite is true. The integrity, seriousness and fairness on this forum and meaningful discussion regarding animal rights and welfare has been restored which was severely lacking and had quickly deteriorated during Wayne's absence.

I consider the above post nothing more but a continuous personal bias and a smear without any factual or rational substance or merit.

However, since Wayne returned, and over and above his attacks against certain people and moderators, and not taking into consideration that many of the topics that were the source of antagonism prior to his departure have been re-addressed, the board is now almost the opposite of what it was during his absence.

I'm not sure exactly what it is you're talking about here but can assure you that Wayne has attacked no one. Challenged a few yes, attacked, no.

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Participation has declined considerably in just a couple of days.

Has it? I can't tell. What say we let the data speak for itself?

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Content I find highly objectionalbe has been introduced without fear of reprisal.

Evidently it was not found to be objectionable by the staff. I suppose some can keep complaining about it in the appropriate forum, as you've done here. I don't think one would get much further with it though.

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In short, the board has once again become the battleground through only a select few can dominate.

I see it more as a select few being intimidated.

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I believe the board is no longer a venue for equalized debate or discussion, and has been returned to the state of "Wayne's World" as it was prior to his vacation where only a select few are entitled to speak freely and without fear of reprisal. I'm sadly disappointed as the last week or so was quite a pleasant change and very enjoyable.

It is interesting to me to see a group that generally does not support AR to be acting like the bulk of AR's that have passed through here in the past.

I say, if you can't back up your opinions with data, that's your problem. Don't complain about those that can and do.

No, you have been issued warnings for your violation of the rules, but not for participating in a discussion as was the context point. If you have a concern over that issue you can take it to the Feedback Forum and ask there.

Then your post to Jhawk is untrue... And I have been isuued warnings ... How do you get warnings if you are not patisapating in a disscussion. That sounds like you talking out of both sides of your mouth...

No, you have been issued warnings for your violation of the rules, but not for participating in a discussion as was the context point. If you have a concern over that issue you can take it to the Feedback Forum and ask there.

Then your post to Jhawk is untrue... And I have been isuued warnings ... How do you get warnings if you are not patisapating in a disscussion. That sounds like you talking out of both sides of your mouth...

Posting off topic, posting spam, or arguing with a moderator decision would all be grounds for a warning/ban without participating in a discussion. By definition the participation in a discussion, within the rules, is the purpose of this forum.

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“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none” Arthur Schopenhauer

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."Albert Einstein

I strongly believe that just the opposite is true. The integrity, seriousness and fairness on this forum and meaningful discussion regarding animal rights and welfare has been restored which was severely lacking and had quickly deteriorated during Wayne's absence.

Pure fiction. What actually happened is you were not catered to when you whined. No one should be.

I strongly believe that just the opposite is true. The integrity, seriousness and fairness on this forum and meaningful discussion regarding animal rights and welfare has been restored which was severely lacking and had quickly deteriorated during Wayne's absence.

Pure fiction. What actually happened is you were not catered to when you whined. No one should be.

No, you have been issued warnings for your violation of the rules, but not for participating in a discussion as was the context point. If you have a concern over that issue you can take it to the Feedback Forum and ask there.

Then your post to Jhawk is untrue... And I have been isuued warnings ... How do you get warnings if you are not patisapating in a disscussion. That sounds like you talking out of both sides of your mouth...

Posting off topic, posting spam, or arguing with a moderator decision would all be grounds for a warning/ban without participating in a discussion. By definition the participation in a discussion, within the rules, is the purpose of this forum.

Ineresting that one of the AR posters said the very same thing that I did before I said it and had no warning issued for it. Nor did I at any time Argue with any moderator

Posting off topic, posting spam, or arguing with a moderator decision would all be grounds for a warning/ban without participating in a discussion. By definition the participation in a discussion, within the rules, is the purpose of this forum.

Ineresting that one of the AR posters said the very same thing that I did before I said it and had no warning issued for it. Nor did I at any time Argue with any moderator

How is that connected to the explanation of how one can get a warning/ban without participating in a discussion? Also, the references to prior warnings in this context is an argument, just so you were aware.

_________________With friends like Guido, you will not have enemies for long.

“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none” Arthur Schopenhauer

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."Albert Einstein

Posting off topic, posting spam, or arguing with a moderator decision would all be grounds for a warning/ban without participating in a discussion. By definition the participation in a discussion, within the rules, is the purpose of this forum.

Ineresting that one of the AR posters said the very same thing that I did before I said it and had no warning issued for it. Nor did I at any time Argue with any moderator

How is that connected to the explanation of how one can get a warning/ban without participating in a discussion? Also, the references to prior warnings in this context is an argument, just so you were aware.

Roadside... your original post is passive aggressive whining. This forum is not a personal blog for your observations on the absence of a moderator. You are not providing any constructive feedback for the forums other than furthering your personal issues with Wayne.

Wayne is here as a moderator, and if he chooses to will continue to be a moderator. If you keep acting this way, I can not say the same for your status as a welcome user.

Everyone else... I realize you think you are helping (somehow) on one "side" or another, but I REALLY don't want to hear your opinions on the passive aggressive whining of another user. Hear this clearly: if you help inflame a thread here in the feedback section from this point forward, you will be banned for a week by me. Inflaming a thread here is defined as sticking your nose into another user's feedback with unhelpful or inflammatory postings.