WWI Digest 4577
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Lindberg S.E.5 kits discovered
by "Hans Trauner"
2) Re: Russian Flyingboats
by "David Vosburgh"
3) belgium news
by "Liefferinckx Frederic"
4) Re: Russian Flyingboats
by "Matt Bittner"
5) Re: Dilemma
by "Len Smith"
6) RE: Suitable Paint for RFC Roundrels - 1918??
by "Len Smith"
7) ot Help Needed
by Steven Perry
8) =?gb2312?q?=C8=AB=CA=D0=D7=EE=B1=E3=D2=CB=B5=C4=CA=D0=BB=B0=CD=A8200=D4=AA=A3=AC=CE=F7=C3=C5=D7=D33508=CA=D6=BB=FA=A3=BA430=D4=AA=A3=AC=CF=EA=C7=E9=C7=EB=B5=E7=A3=BA25967978?=
by 25967978
9) The Question of the moment...and Roland C.II Help
by "Charlie and Linda Duckworth"
10) RE: Suitable Paint for RFC Roundrels - 1918??
by CAUhlir@aol.com
11) Re: Lindberg S.E.5 kits discovered
by "ernest thomas"
12) RE: Belgium Nieuport 23
by Michael Fletcher
13) Re: Capronis
by "Fr. Craig Gavin"
14) DDr.I/Dr.I
by "Michael Kendix"
15) Re: Lindberg S.E.5 kits discovered
by Larry Marshall
16) Re: Lindberg S.E.5 kits discovered
by "ernest thomas"
17) Web site update
by Dennis Ugulano
18) Re: DDr.I/Dr.I
by "Thomas Solinski"
19) Re: Capronis
by Karen Rychlewski
20) Re: Web site update
by "ernest thomas"
21) Have You Heard of Age Reversal with HGH?
by "Rebecca Lew"
22) Re: Lindberg S.E.5 kits discovered
by "Hans Trauner"
23) Re: DDr.I/Dr.I
by "Hans Trauner"
24) Re: Hungary v. Rumania 1919
by E K
25) Rumanian planes against Hungary 1919
by E K
26) Unsubbing
by PetersList@aol.com
27) Re: Unsubbing
by "David Vosburgh"
28) Collishaw Book
by "John & Allison Cyganowski"
29) Re: Collishaw Book
by "Mike Muth"
30) Re: Lindberg S.E.5 kits discovered
by Larry Marshall
31) Shane's Halberstadt
by Marc Flake
32) Spraying Acrylics
by "David Vosburgh"
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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 17:50:02 +0200
From: "Hans Trauner"
To:
Subject: Lindberg S.E.5 kits discovered
Message-ID: <000d01c24085$9727ef40$7abc72d4@FRITZweb>
Listees,
today I discovered three SE5 by Lindberg in the 'dusty kit corner' at my
local plastic dealer. 16 â‚¬ each = 16 U.S. $. Anyone interested? I would swap
it for kits or decals or whatever. Or you order something from Eric and he
sent it to me or from Americal or whatever. Contact me at
hans.trauner@nefkom.net.
Hans
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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 12:23:12 -0400
From: "David Vosburgh"
To:
Subject: Re: Russian Flyingboats
Message-ID: <000701c2408a$39c0db00$e3ed19ce@dv2980>
Thanks for the responses, everybody. All & any info greatly appreciated, looks like I'm
going to have to scratch the M-9 if I want one.
Matt, taking your suggestion I checked Red Star and they list 3 books from Russia, one on
the M-5 & -20 and a two-volume set on the M-9 & -24, all at $15 ea. I might e-mail them
and see if they're in stock, I'd at least like to get the ones on the M-9.
I'm taken with the M-9 because of something mentioned in the Harleyford book, about the
crew of one which was forced down at sea returning from a raid on Constantinople and "so
menaced an enemy schooner with their 37mm Hotchkiss gun, that the crew abandoned their
ship to the Russians." What a great scenario!
DV
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: "Multiple recipients of list"
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 11:26 AM
Subject: [WWI] Re: Russian Flyingboats
> On 08-10-2002 07:32 am, you wrote:
>
> > I have a Russian text book, (datafile format), on the M-16. This
> plane
> > is best described as a Farman clone on floats.
> >
> > The publisher's name & address is in Russian, but they have a logo
> that
> > is two Zebras. The book is obviously part of a series, maybe these
> are
> > the same guys.
>
> Sounds like it. I wonder if they're out of print now, since I can't
> find them anywhere on the 'net.
>
>
> Matt
>
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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 20:12:09 +0200
From: "Liefferinckx Frederic"
To:
Subject: belgium news
Message-ID: <002701c24099$72822160$d384043e@d6o1v9>
Hi the gang,i come from a visit at the "musée de l'armée"(brussel's museum)
and sorry but the Nie23 restoration area was close don't worry,i go to the
museum next saturday to work on my LVG CVI. for today if i have the time i
send you some pictures of WWI aa gun 3 germans and one french and do not
forget we have 2 wwi tanks in the museum(wippet and markIV still in original
color) and many gun some in original color.
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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 14:27:56 -0500
From: "Matt Bittner"
To: "wwi@wwi-models.org"
Subject: Re: Russian Flyingboats
Message-ID:
On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 12:24:33 -0400 (EDT), David Vosburgh wrote:
> Thanks for the responses, everybody. All & any info greatly appreciated, looks like I'm
> going to have to scratch the M-9 if I want one.
I'm not so sure. Check the Czech (say that five times fast ;-))
producers, Omega or RVHP or... I could have sworn someone came
out with the M.9 recently.
> Matt, taking your suggestion I checked Red Star and they list 3 books from Russia, one on
> the M-5 & -20 and a two-volume set on the M-9 & -24, all at $15 ea. I might e-mail them
> and see if they're in stock, I'd at least like to get the ones on the M-9.
Excellent. Glad to hear.
> I'm taken with the M-9 because of something mentioned in the Harleyford book, about the
> crew of one which was forced down at sea returning from a raid on Constantinople and "so
> menaced an enemy schooner with their 37mm Hotchkiss gun, that the crew abandoned their
> ship to the Russians." What a great scenario!
Cool. What's the saying? If you can't wow them with brilliance,
baffle them with BS. ;-)
Matt
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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 19:45:10 +0100
From: "Len Smith"
To:
Subject: Re: Dilemma
Message-ID: <000a01c240b0$96d8af40$104f08c3@oemcomputer>
Shane,
Know how you feel, luckily I have found that my modelling glasses act as
bifocals. If I am modelling I look through them, if I am looking for
something I look over them. Works a treat for me.
Thanks for the kind words, it's great to see the occassional post from you
wriggling under the barbed wire.
Regards Len.
lensmith@clara.net
http://home.clara.net/lensmith
> Boy do I understand this. I've been short sighted all my adult life, and
> lost most of the vision in my right eye 15 years ago, but thought that my
> specs and a desk magnifier would continue to suit just fine - only now I'm
> neither short nor long sighted and need to either spend half my time
> changing glasses or make the bold jump to bifocals.
>
> Gettin old. Feel like I'm no longer one of Len's whippersnappers (and BTW
> Len, *I* didn't think you'd croaked or faded away into a dementiaed post
OT
> life, but am still pleased to hear from you again ;-)
>
> Shane
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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 19:58:25 +0100
From: "Len Smith"
To:
Subject: RE: Suitable Paint for RFC Roundrels - 1918??
Message-ID: <000b01c240b0$97b2e2a0$104f08c3@oemcomputer>
Candice,
Sorry for the delay, my modem went to the Pearly (no relation to Bill) Gates
in the sky.
For Blue...Ultramarines Blue, with a touch of Regal Blue.
For Red....Crimson Gore with a touch of Ruby Red.
For White....Skull white.
Make? I thought you would never ask! Citadel Colour of course, from Games
Workshop.
Is there any other acrylic range worth using?
Regards Len.
lensmith@clara.net
http://home.clara.net/lensmith
>
> Guys,
>
> I am forced to paint markings on my 1/48 Vimy. Does anybody have any
> suggestions for suitable colors in a line of acrylics for the blue, red,
> white???
>
> Candice
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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 17:08:06 -0400
From: Steven Perry
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: ot Help Needed
Message-ID: <3D5580B6.4010704@tampabay.rr.com>
Calling All, (any?), Halifax Fanciers!
A buddy at work's Father flew Halifaxes. 102 Sqdn IIRC. I have had an
Airfix Halibag about half finished for 2 years now. I have to get this
thing done.
Is there anyone out there that has an affinity for these beasties whom I
could call on as I finish this Alumathingie?
TIA
sp
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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 17:34:50 -0500
From: "Charlie and Linda Duckworth"
To: "WWIFAQ-Group"
Subject: The Question of the moment...and Roland C.II Help
Message-ID: <008101c240bf$b7cd2000$2e32b9cc@ncsc>
Been gone for 8 days - vacation in Colorado and now back to the humid
midwest. Plan to get back into the Eduard Roland C.II this evening - still
plugging away on the cockpit and observer's interior with handles being
added to the antenna reel, cable to the weight on the floor and piping as
shown in the DF. Added some PE switch handles and Eduard instruments to the
pilot's instrument board and can tell after buttoning it up they'll be
pretty hard to see. A friend has a pretty good set of WWI Aeros and I
remember one having some GA drawings and detail drawings of the interior.
Does anyone on the list know which issue has these? I'd like to see what
both sides of the observer's cockpit looks like.
Thanks, Charlie
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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 19:06:27 EDT
From: CAUhlir@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE: Suitable Paint for RFC Roundrels - 1918??
Message-ID: <114.15706902.2a86f673@aol.com>
thanks Len....now I just need to find where I can purchase that product
line.....but never fear...the net is near!!
Candice
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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 19:26:05 -0500
From: "ernest thomas"
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Lindberg S.E.5 kits discovered
Message-ID:
Hans,
Don't think any Ami's will bite on this one. The Lindberg SE5 is only about
10US bucks and that's full retail. A bargain hunter can find them as low as
4 or 5 US. I've got a few myself, one that will get dressed up with the
Eduard PE set.
One of these days.
E.
>From: "Hans Trauner"
>Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org
>To: Multiple recipients of list
>Subject: [WWI] Lindberg S.E.5 kits discovered
>Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 11:44:27 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Listees,
>today I discovered three SE5 by Lindberg in the 'dusty kit corner' at my
>local plastic dealer. 16 â‚¬ each = 16 U.S. $. Anyone interested? I would
>swap
>it for kits or decals or whatever. Or you order something from Eric and he
>sent it to me or from Americal or whatever. Contact me at
>hans.trauner@nefkom.net.
>
>Hans
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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 20:45:10 -0400
From: Michael Fletcher
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE: Belgium Nieuport 23
Message-ID: <3D55B396.7273B94D@rogers.com>
At least some of the two seaters had a panel of ply with lightening
holes at the rear of the cockpit. As these were taken on the assembly
line at the factory they may have added fabric over the wood as well.
Mike Fl.
Diego Fernetti wrote:
>
> C'est trés jolie, n'est pas?
> And we sent Frederick to have a look at it... hope he brings more news. So
> far looks like an amazing work of restoration
> A detail I've never seen before: check the laced bulkhead behid the seat.
> Would that be a standard feature? Other single seater nieuports would ahve
> had the same thing behind the seat, or if we're talking about the two
> seaters, behind the rear cockpit?
> D.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 10:47 AM
> Subject: [WWI] Belgium Nieuport 23
>
> > Just picked this up from the Aerodrome Forum. Someone there has posted
> > images of the Brussels' Nie.23 undergoing restoration. Very, very
> > nice!!!
> > http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/baha3/nie23/Nieuport_23.html
> >
> >
> > Matt Bittner
> >
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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 19:50:03 -0500
From: "Fr. Craig Gavin"
To: WWI Modelers List
Subject: Re: Capronis
Message-ID:
Steven - Your first e-mail got me curious. I still haven't uncovered the
Caproni DF to compare against the dimensional drawings. But there's
definite out-of-the-box advantages in the Luedemann kit. First off, the
engine pylons and main nacelle/fuselage have better surface detail (the
Meikraft kit has none). The rib detail and airfoil of the Luedemann wings
is much better represented. So too with the 3 rudders and horizontal
stabilizer. The Luedemann kit also was some nice wheels, whereas the
Meikraft kit has only p/e spoke wheels. The molding on the Meikraft kit is
typical short-run (ie thick pieces with super-sized trees/gates). From a
quick glance at my refs the Meikraft engines are all wrong for the Caproni
whereas the Luedemann kit includes the proper type of engines. The downside
of the Luedeman kit is that the resin has a lot of air bubbles and holes
that will need filling. And on mine the molds must have been dirty of
something as the parts have lumps and humps between the rib stations
(nothing too bad however) but the surface of the parts are rather rough ala
HitKit. Also a negative (or maybe a positive to some) the nacelle and
cockpit of the Luedemann kit are molded as one piece with the interior
detail already molded in (even the seats, fuel tanks and oil tanks). The
Meikraft kit is more the traditional two-piece tub sort that allows one to
first scratch-build the interior and then close everything up. Need to
study this more as it is a rather open cockpit and therefore will draw a
great deal of attention. The other difficulty with the Luedemann kit is the
strut works, engines and other details suffered from "short-shot" resin.
Ludemann also tried to make the "squirrel cage" for the rear gunner in resin
- it's a hopeless blob. So far, I think I'll use the p/e, decals, and white
metal parts from the Meikraft kit ( except the engines) and the rest will be
Luedemann. At roughly $25.00 for the Luedemann kit, versus the unbelievable
amounts that some are getting for the Meikraft kits, my advice would be to
buy the Luedemann kit. Either way, it's not going to be a "shake 'n bake"
build-up. Who knows - wait long enough and maybe Roden will come out with
one like their Gothas. But I'm not holding my breath. Best regards - Craig
+
> From: Steven Perry
> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 07:30:12 -0400
> To: cgavin@cox-internet.com
> Subject: Capronis
>
> Craig:
> Thanks for the response. I had heard the Miekraft was pretty rough and
> was hoping the Ludenman was a lot better. Oh well seems a Caproni will
> be a heap of work any way you slice it. I'm still determind to build one
> some day.
> Regards
> sp
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 02:03:47 +0000
From: "Michael Kendix"
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: DDr.I/Dr.I
Message-ID:
Please can someone explain why the SSW triplane is a "DDr.I" and the Fokker
triplane is a "Dr.I"?
Michael
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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 22:19:11 -0400
From: Larry Marshall
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Lindberg S.E.5 kits discovered
Message-ID: <200208102219.11385.larrym@sympatico.ca>
> Don't think any Ami's will bite on this one. The Lindberg SE5 is only about
> 10US bucks and that's full retail. A bargain hunter can find them as low as
What's the concensus on which is better, the Monogram/Revell SE5a and the
Lindberg SE5a? For that matter, has anyone been able to compare the Monogram
kit with the newly released Revel re-release?
Cheers --- Larry
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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 21:59:05 -0500
From: "ernest thomas"
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Lindberg S.E.5 kits discovered
Message-ID:
>From: Larry Marshall
>What's the concensus on which is better, the Monogram/Revell SE5a and the
>Lindberg SE5a?
I've got both kits, but they're so far down the list that I haven't even
laid the parts for either on the GA's in High in the Empty Blue, so I can't
speak for the accuracy of the outlines. I also haven't looked at either in
some time so I'm just going on memory here.
I like the Lindberg kit much better(or at least the parts). The Mongram
wings and tail assy are chunky, the Lindberg has TE's that are almost razor
sharp. The Monogram kit has the exhaust pipes molded on to the side of the
fuselage, Lindberg made them seperate. Lindberg also made the pipes attach
to a dandy little Hispano engine, which can be built into a real gem for
those so inclined(ask SP about this). Mongram doesn't even have an engine
and the struts are big and chunky with huge eyes to thread the rigging
through, similar to the old 1/28 Revell Camel, and just as big. Lindberg's
struts are very fine, dare I say it, possibly to scale. And if memory
serves, the Monogram kit has the markings molded on too.
I've got the Monogram just in case the references indicate a kit-bash might
be the best approach to building a very nice, accurate SE. That, and the
decals which includes a grim reaper squadron insignia.
For that matter, has anyone been able to compare the Monogram
>kit with the newly released Revel re-release?
I wasn't aware that they re-popped it. I too would be interested in hearing
about any changes Revell made to the mold.
E.
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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 23:19:23 -0400
From: Dennis Ugulano
To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu"
Subject: Web site update
Message-ID: <200208102319_MC3-1-A9B-B623@compuserve.com>
Everyone,
The Roland VIa is now on line. It's under German, Roland VIa. I
also added a little text to the AGO in the same area.
Dennis Ugulano
email: Uggies@compuserve.com
http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm
Page Revised 08/10/2002
"Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism."
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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 22:35:21 -0500
From: "Thomas Solinski"
To:
Subject: Re: DDr.I/Dr.I
Message-ID: <001a01c240e8$1f41ee00$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net>
I have a theory
If you'll look at my paper on German aircraft designators, the triplane was
originally called a Type F aircraft. It deteriorated to the obvious moniker
of Driedecker. Maybe the Type "D" was originally applied to the SSW
aircraft with the Dr suffix to denote the triplane configuration. Much like
the "L" was added to a "C" type aircraft to designate the new mission
MTC
MrT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Kendix"
To: "Multiple recipients of list"
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 9:04 PM
Subject: [WWI] DDr.I/Dr.I
> Please can someone explain why the SSW triplane is a "DDr.I" and the
Fokker
> triplane is a "Dr.I"?
>
> Michael
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 00:50:33 -0400
From: Karen Rychlewski
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Capronis
Message-ID: <3D55ED19.5409A7F@earthlink.net>
Craig, I was interested in your brief 'in-box' review of the Luedemann Caproni
Ca.3. Like you, I haven't laid the pieces out on the DF drawings, but I *did*,
also as you seem to have done, compare the Luedemann with the Meikraft. Now, I
don't ordinarily do such things, but having had some small part in the
production of the Meikraft kit, I was especially curious how well Luedemann
would do it. Back when the Caproni in the USAF Museum in Dayton was being
restored, I took a 'behind-the-scenes' tour of the restoration facilities and
saw the Caproni spread out on the floor; was able to take a roll or two of
photos of the pieces. I'd been in contact with John before this, buying his
kits, and knew he was planning the Caproni kit; I sent him the photos and he
used them in the designing of his kit (I still don't have the photos back, but
that's another story...).
I would agree with most of what you said with the exception of your comments on
the engines: I think Meikraft's metal ones are far superior to the resin
Luedemann copies. I don't use the word "copies" lightly--FWIW, I'm convinced
that the designer of the Luedemann kit used the Meikraft kit as the 'master'.
The differences in surface detail you noted are positive improvements over
Meikraft's, of course, but the outlines of the wings, fuselage, engine
nacelles, etc. match exactly; and on both kits, there are a few small bumps and
blemishes in exactly the same place--too exact to be coincidence. It appears
that someone took the Meikraft kit, cleaned it up, sharpened the trailing
edges, added wing ribs of wire or string, put the fuselage together with most
of the metal parts, and then made a new set of molds. The ideal build of this
plane, as you said, would be a kit-bash of the two.
Actually, I'm rather disappointed in Luedemann for doing this since virtually
all of the other kits in this line are of really cool offbeat subjects that
have never been kitted in any form. Shades of Czechmaster... But John, having
gone to that big hanger in the sky, can't complain, and a new generation has a
Caproni kit that's very buildable.
My two zlotys worth...
Karen
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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 01:12:05 -0500
From: "ernest thomas"
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Web site update
Message-ID:
>From: Dennis Ugulano
> The Roland VIa is now on line.
Dennis,
I still don't like you.
E.
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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 10:44:26 +0200
From: "Hans Trauner"
To:
Subject: Re: Lindberg S.E.5 kits discovered
Message-ID: <002101c24113$4d1e2340$ada072d4@FRITZweb>
Ernest,
First Lindberg: many thanks for the actual market survey on Lindberg SE's.
I'll tell this my plastic dealer.
Second Revell: I found not the slightest change with the Revell re-issue
compared to the last Monogram version. But the decals are quite good, maybe
the roundel blue can be discussed.
Hans
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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 10:51:13 +0200
From: "Hans Trauner"
To:
Subject: Re: DDr.I/Dr.I
Message-ID: <002901c24114$3f8aaf40$ada072d4@FRITZweb>
It seems to be a provisonal works designation, combined from D-type and Dr.
Even D-type would be wrong as the D.DrI was a twin engined object ( or
should I really say 'aircraft?').
There is another sample like this, the Siemens D. D5. All those prototypes
were not accepted by Idflieg, so they never got official designations.
Hans
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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 05:27:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: E K
To: John MacGregor
Cc: Rory Goodwin ,
Subject: Re: Hungary v. Rumania 1919
Message-ID: <20020811122703.55824.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com>
John hi!
Thanks for the information you sent me about the
planes used by the romanian during the rumanian
"contre-revolution" operations in hungary. I have some
information including photos of the franco-czech
Breguet squadron operating during this conflict as
well a single b&w photo of a rumanian Sopwith Strutter
(from an article in the french Avions magazine)I'll
scan it for you if you want. What is the "regular
australian camo" of the rumanian uffag you mentioned?
stripes (dark grey/light grey or green/tan) or
lozenge? The strutter seeems to have been finished in
a light (silvered dope)non reflecting uniform finish.
This was also the colour of contemporary rumanian
Nieuports. Has someone more information on the
camouflage and colours of the hungarian and rumanian
planes during this period?
Thanks
Eric
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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 05:34:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: E K
To: John
Cc: Rory Goodwin , Tom ,
Subject: Rumanian planes against Hungary 1919
Message-ID: <20020811123436.29437.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com>
I have found this list of the ex-Austro-Hungarian
aircraft types that were impressed into ARR service in
the inter-war period:
Hansa-Brandenburg C.I
UC.I
L.V.G. V
Fokker D.VII (both single- and two-seat version)
Berg D.I
Phönix C.I
Hansa-Brandenburg W.29 seaplane
Warschalamsky (?)
Interestingly, there were also several captured
Nieuports (Nie.21, 23 and 28) that were later enlisted
in the ARR roster.
and this other one:
Rumania1919: Hansa Brandenburg c1-UFAG series 269
Hansa Brandenburg c1-Phonix
Aviatik Berg C1
Aviatik Berg D1
Breguet-Michelin BM.4B.2
Breguet 14 A2 & B2
Farman F40
Nieuport 17bis C1 bebe, Nieuport 24,
Sopwith 1 1/2 strutter,
Spad 7c1, Spad 13,
these lists are without photos or drawings
eric
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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 09:06:48 EDT
From: PetersList@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Unsubbing
Message-ID: <151.12451105.2a87bb68@aol.com>
I'll be signing of later today and disappearing to Cyprus for three weeks.
Don't be envious, I'm staying with the mother-in-law..
cheers
Peter L
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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 09:25:32 -0400
From: "David Vosburgh"
To:
Subject: Re: Unsubbing
Message-ID: <002e01c2413a$92b46640$e0ed19ce@dv2980>
Stay away from the topless beaches, you can lose track of time and end up with a horrible
sunburn.
But you probably already know that, right?
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: "Multiple recipients of list"
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 9:09 AM
Subject: [WWI] Unsubbing
> I'll be signing of later today and disappearing to Cyprus for three weeks.
> Don't be envious, I'm staying with the mother-in-law..
>
>
> cheers
>
> Peter L
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 09:25:57 -0400
From: "John & Allison Cyganowski"
To:
Subject: Collishaw Book
Message-ID: <001d01c2413a$a1110130$06385b0c@cyrixp166>
Hi All-
I have found a copy of Collishaw's book Air Command. The price is $75 (US).
What is the consensus on this? Is this too much to pay for this item?
Please reply to me directly as I am not currently subscribed.
Regards,
John Cyg.
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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 10:16:56 -0400
From: "Mike Muth"
To:
Subject: Re: Collishaw Book
Message-ID: <001501c24141$c0a03640$b947bacc@ptdprolog.net>
Cyg
I'm in the middle of this book now. I enjoy reading it, however, not a
whole lot to help in modeling. It is well written, with a nice sense of
humor. Minimal photos.
Mike Muth
----- Original Message -----
From: John & Allison Cyganowski
To: Multiple recipients of list
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 9:29 AM
Subject: [WWI] Collishaw Book
> Hi All-
>
> I have found a copy of Collishaw's book Air Command. The price is $75
(US).
> What is the consensus on this? Is this too much to pay for this item?
>
> Please reply to me directly as I am not currently subscribed.
>
> Regards,
> John Cyg.
>
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 10:21:20 -0400
From: Larry Marshall
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Lindberg S.E.5 kits discovered
Message-ID: <200208111021.20598.larrym@sympatico.ca>
> I like the Lindberg kit much better(or at least the parts). The Mongram
I can see why. The virtues you list clearly put the Lindberg ahead of the
game. I have one of the old Monogram kits that I bought years ago but it
sounds like the Lindberg is the way to go.
Cheers --- Larry
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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 09:41:44 -0500
From: Marc Flake
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Shane's Halberstadt
Message-ID: <3D5677A8.8010109@airmail.net>
I had the privilege of seeing Shane Weir's beautiful 1/72 Halberstadt
yesterday at the Fort Worth Modelers show in Arlington. Thanks goes to
Brent Theobald for entering this little jewel in a number of Stateside
contests allowing North American colonists the opportunity to view it up
close and personal.
On a more personal note, I proselytized our niche of the hobby by
showing 10 Nieuports (8 grouped in a collection category) and one WW 1
warship. I placed dead last in every category I entered, but that's not
important. I just wanted to show what I've been doing for the past year
and to increase the WW 1 examples in a hobby that is skewed toward the
later unpleasantness.
I had a good time meeting and talking to friends and buying WW 1 goodies
like the new Oeffag D III Albatros kits (series .53 and series .153) and
the much coveted Japo book on all the Oeffag Albatroses.
Marc Flake
PS. I'm on a new computer using the most recent version of Netscape.
If this message ends up with MIME, I apologize and will correct it
before my next message.
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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 10:49:13 -0400
From: "David Vosburgh"
To: "WWI Mailing List"
Subject: Spraying Acrylics
Message-ID: <000f01c24146$42f89a20$d8ed19ce@dv2980>
Anybody have any words of wisdom re: airbrushing MM Acryl colors? I've never used them
before, any and all input gratefully accepted.
DV
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