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Ive got both, and I cant think of any reason. I use a Tivo Premier (bought the cheap one and upgraded the internal drive myself, then got lifetime DVR on it). PQ is good, channel selection is good, and the two year price lock in is great if you get the Digital Preferred.

Just remember they will charge you extra (or they do here, not sure about there) for the cablecard/HD. Its $8.50 per cablecard here for HD in addition to the package deal price.

once and awhile i get stuck in this horrid situation it gets me fuming so i come here to look for updates. i pay for service electric cable on top of dtv @ $60/month for HD for ONE channel (CSN) and tonight they put devils/flyers on TCN so they can show boxing on CSN??? super...

Can you get fios? I was able to get the Fios tripple play for 79.99 which is the same price i had for the double play. It includes both CSn and TCN (TCN only in SD), and i didnt increase my monthly costs. That gives me 2 years at that rate, and i get to keep both. Maybe in 2 years this will all be worked out.

Also, i notice on Fios that CSN is actually a bit blocky looking. I dont see this on other channels. I wonder if Comcast gives fios a crappier looking picture...

Can you get fios? I was able to get the Fios tripple play for 79.99 which is the same price i had for the double play. It includes both CSn and TCN (TCN only in SD), and i didnt increase my monthly costs. That gives me 2 years at that rate, and i get to keep both. Maybe in 2 years this will all be worked out.

Also, i notice on Fios that CSN is actually a bit blocky looking. I dont see this on other channels. I wonder if Comcast gives fios a crappier looking picture...

**** is beyond ridiculous... A replay of a boxing match that probably happened more then six months ago takes precedence over a Flyers game? Really Comcast?

once and awhile i get stuck in this horrid situation it gets me fuming so i come here to look for updates. i pay for service electric cable on top of dtv @ $60/month for HD for ONE channel (CSN) and tonight they put devils/flyers on TCN so they can show boxing on CSN??? super...

pay for service electric cable on top of dtv @ $60/month for HD for ONE channel (CSN)

At least you have that option. Here is Cecil County Maryland, only CSN Midatlantic is offered on DTV, Dish and Comcrap. On top of that on NHL Center Ice all Philadelphia games are blacked out. Only national games involving Philadelphia that are on NBC can be seen. What a joke!

Here is what I got from the Office of the President at D* after pitching a fit about CSN Philly:

"Due to the sensitive nature of programming negotiations, we are unable to provide an estimate of when CSN Philadelphia will be available on DIRECTV. We understand this service is important to DIRECTV sports fans in the Philadelphia area and are making every effort to conclude negotiations as soon as possible."

Whether this is another line to get me to wait and get disappointed is beyond me, but is more information than I have ever gotten. Thoughts?

Still doesn't mean D* will every carry CSN Philly, but at least they reworded their response as that they know people are asking for this network and it appears that there is a negotiation in progress. I still won't believe it until I see CSN Philly on my TV or if SR tells us so.

If the playoffs is all he cares about, how about the cheapest cable they can get for just the playoffs, suspend DirecTV while they are on, and then cancel the service as soon as the playoffs are over and return to DirecTV. Kind of screwed both companies that way by not letting either one get all your money.

Playoffs anymore or getting to be more and more on national tv too....

Ah... Well since the season is longer than six months, I don't think you can suspend for the entire season and switch back and forth... I'd probably either switch, or get the cheapest package that allows me to get both services that covers everything I want, it that's possible, although I doubt it....

I've purchased an AM21 and OTA equipment right around the time FOX had a dispute with D*, simply as a backup. While I know that is a non-starter for those in Philly, I suspect that there are plenty that aren't pleased and at most would likely find themselves using alternate means of watching Phillies games on PHL17. My personal favorite is Chickies & Pete's, but I digress.

But even though I follow the Yankees more than I do the Phillies I have seriously thought about filing complaints the old fashioned way, hand-written and addressed to those concerned. I had enough of voicing complaints to CSRs and spokesmouths as I believe my words went to a dustbin. I know there is a decision-maker that has to see things with their own eyes.

Wow. Those in the Philly DMA are really hosed now with no CSN, no TCN, and now no PHL with the Tribune blackout... Good thing I have an antenna and additionally get WLYH.

Subscribed to DirecTV for NFL Sunday Ticket, remained a subscriber for international football.

Can you get fios? I was able to get the Fios tripple play for 79.99 which is the same price i had for the double play. It includes both CSn and TCN (TCN only in SD), and i didnt increase my monthly costs. That gives me 2 years at that rate, and i get to keep both. Maybe in 2 years this will all be worked out.

Also, i notice on Fios that CSN is actually a bit blocky looking. I dont see this on other channels. I wonder if Comcast gives fios a crappier looking picture...

no fios for me, probably will be a longgggg time before that would happen

service electric cable has The Comcast Network HD

some service electric providers do, birdsboro office does not. www.secv.com

At least you have that option. Here is Cecil County Maryland, only CSN Midatlantic is offered on DTV, Dish and Comcrap. On top of that on NHL Center Ice all Philadelphia games are blacked out. Only national games involving Philadelphia that are on NBC can be seen. What a joke!

p.s. No chance FiOS will be coming here.

if the caps are your regional hockey team, then why would flyers black out on center ice? provided you have sportspack as well as ci, i think you might get around it

This crap with PHL 17 might be the last straw for me. I don't watch alot of TV, but what I watch are my local sports teams, and I can't do that anymore. It may be knee-jerk, but I csn see (gasp) a call to Service Electric in my future.

The Flyers are blacked out because it is considered in market. It doesn't matter if your provider does not offer CSN Philly. If DirecTV offered CSN Philly, then the games would be available.

there was a way around it for baseball, my local rsn is masn so i get orioles and nats games so if i got mlb extra innings, i could watch ALL phillies games. i may do this again since weve now lost phl17. my point is if you get csn-dc in your area, it may work for flyers.

there was a way around it for baseball, my local rsn is masn so i get orioles and nats games so if i got mlb extra innings, i could watch ALL phillies games. i may do this again since weve now lost phl17. my point is if you get csn-dc in your area, it may work for flyers.

It doesn't work in all areas as the Orioles and Nationals market overlaps the Phillies market. None of Maryland is in the Phillies market, but cities such as Harrisburg are and would be blacked out in Extra Innings. No chance you could get the Phillies, unless they're on MASN, ESPN, or FOX.