LET'S GET IT wrote:In this situation sure it's an obvious retake situation. But we've all seen situations where that isn't going to do any good and it's suggested anyway. That's all I'm saying. I'm glad some of you were able to improve substantially on the third try. Wasn't trying to stir up any controversy.

I understand what you were saying, and I think that most other did too. One thing to keep in mind is that a lot of times OP's of threads like this aren't TLS regulars, and so "retake" isn't rote to them. Additionally, threads like this will get hits from random google searches. This advice is only routine for TLS'rs. Seriously like 9/10 pre law advisors and definitely boomers and parents will advise against retakes in almost all circumstances.

This is a solid point and I agree but I would add that just posting "retake" isn't going to convince any of these non-TLSers. I think sometime we get so tired of threads where retaking is clearly the answer that we get too curt and don't elaborate on why retaking is the answer. A lot of people come to TLS with very distorted views about the law school application process and filled with ideas instilled by their boomer parents. A discussion about just how important the LSAT actually is to admissions is probably more helpful then twenty posts just saying "retake". We run the risk of just coming across as elitists assholes rather than honestly trying to help people from making huge mistakes out of ignorance. Not saying anything about this thread in particular, which has addressed these points, but it is a trend on TLS to not explain why someone should retake.

That sad, OP, please retake. No matter what your goals are, retaking is going to give you the best outcomes especially given that GPA. If you want Biglaw/clerkships then shoot for maximizing that LSAT and getting into a T14. If you have a job lined up or just want to work in a small firm in a specific region then research the best regional school in that area, get above their 75th percentiles, and rake in the scholarship money. But don't try and make the Feb test; it's not enough time to properly prepare and you'll be applying too late in the cycle for your best possible results. Have you looked at some of the LSAT prep materials here on TLS? We have some great advice on how to maximize you score and there are a lot of people like you who took multiple tests before they were satisfied with their scores who could offer advice. Good luck!

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This is pretty great. There's a typo in the last paragraph though...an "its" that should be "it's."

LET'S GET IT wrote:In this situation sure it's an obvious retake situation. But we've all seen situations where that isn't going to do any good and it's suggested anyway. That's all I'm saying. I'm glad some of you were able to improve substantially on the third try. Wasn't trying to stir up any controversy.

I understand what you were saying, and I think that most other did too. One thing to keep in mind is that a lot of times OP's of threads like this aren't TLS regulars, and so "retake" isn't rote to them. Additionally, threads like this will get hits from random google searches. This advice is only routine for TLS'rs. Seriously like 9/10 pre law advisors and definitely boomers and parents will advise against retakes in almost all circumstances.

This is a solid point and I agree but I would add that just posting "retake" isn't going to convince any of these non-TLSers. I think sometime we get so tired of threads where retaking is clearly the answer that we get too curt and don't elaborate on why retaking is the answer. A lot of people come to TLS with very distorted views about the law school application process and filled with ideas instilled by their boomer parents. A discussion about just how important the LSAT actually is to admissions is probably more helpful then twenty posts just saying "retake". We run the risk of just coming across as elitists assholes rather than honestly trying to help people from making huge mistakes out of ignorance. Not saying anything about this thread in particular, which has addressed these points, but it is a trend on TLS to not explain why someone should retake.

That sad, OP, please retake. No matter what your goals are, retaking is going to give you the best outcomes especially given that GPA. If you want Biglaw/clerkships then shoot for maximizing that LSAT and getting into a T14. If you have a job lined up or just want to work in a small firm in a specific region then research the best regional school in that area, get above their 75th percentiles, and rake in the scholarship money. But don't try and make the Feb test; it's not enough time to properly prepare and you'll be applying too late in the cycle for your best possible results. Have you looked at some of the LSAT prep materials here on TLS? We have some great advice on how to maximize you score and there are a lot of people like you who took multiple tests before they were satisfied with their scores who could offer advice. Good luck!