By now you have heard about Mel Gibson's recent foul-mouthed tirade. Apparently he said some pretty harsh things to Oksana Grigorieva the Russian woman he has been involved with lately. He used words that are considered offensive and racist and maybe he wasn't just angry, he might of also been drunk or having an emotional breakdown or perhaps he's bi-polar. People are speculating while some are wondering if it was even Mel Gibson's voice they heard on several recordings ...

On a personal note, I for one have not heard the recordings, and I don't want to hear them. I heard part of one, which was edited, and I have read a few things, also edited, and I have seen both a before and after picture of this woman. The before picture looked like the octo-mom, the "after" pic looked like a "before" picture from a dentist's office. Apparently Mel knocked the veneers right off her teeth.

Some people are sticking up for Mel, like Michael Savage and Whoopi Goldberg, and surprisingly enough, Mel's ex-wife of 28 yrs whom he left to be with his new Russian spy.

I don't want to stick up for Mel Gibson, I think what he has said and done are horrendous; however, I would like to point out that he is a lot like you and me and every individual who has ever lost his temper, said something stupid, evil, disgusting, or degrading, because we were angry or upset or hysterical.

He's a pervert? So are most people. He's a racist? It's hard to find anyone who has never had a racist thought. (like: what's that white boy doing with that black girl? or Democrats who claim they hear a racist tone whenever someone criticizes Obama.)

After seeing her picture it is almost assured Mel did no such thing. If you look you will see there is not a single mark or any swelling in her lips. As someone who boxed competitively for 10 years I can assure you that you can't hit someone in the mouth hard enough to damage their teeth without busting their lip. I just doesn't happen. And I'm hearing now that experts are saying her tapes have been doctored.

That is all very true. I think he had a meltdown after the attacks on him for The Passion; God called him to make it, which meant that Satan was really lying in wait for him afterwards.

One of Mel Gibson’s problems, however, is that he doesn’t attend a regular Catholic church, but was in a Traditionalist “private chapel” situation. I don’t think they’re SSPX (it might be better if they were). Priests in these groups are usually legitimately ordained priests, but no bishop will actually incardinate them, although in many cases the bishop of the diocese permits them to have faculties as “visiting priests.

The problem is that this leaves their parishioners very isolated and in an uncertain situation, and also prevents them from getting the whole-hearted support of the Church when there is a problem.

This may be the reason some are cutting Gibson some slack and hoping that much of this tape business is altered, piled-on, B-grade movie script stuff. Unlike someone like BHO—who I almost consider beyond redemption and one who would NEVER view himself as flawed and who likewise would never offer his OWN hand as one driving in the nails—at least Gibson sees himself as the rest of us see OURselves—hopeless sinners without God’s grace.

After seeing her picture it is almost assured Mel did no such thing. If you look you will see there is not a single mark or any swelling in her lips.

I wondered about that too. Now she's claiming he hit the child, but the judge ruled that there is no evidence he's a danger to the child. Now, either the judge is wrong (possible) or that woman is lying. If she's lying about that, what else is she lying about? It's completely possible that he was abusive to her (those tapes, even if tampered with, are pretty damning evidence of verbal abuse), and I'm not excusing him across the board... but I don't think he's guilty of everything she's accusing him of.

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posted on 07/17/2010 10:48:35 AM PDT
by A_perfect_lady
(I can see November from my house.)

Umm, I don’t get drunk and head off into uncontrolled lunatic anti Semitism at a traffic stop. I don’t break up with my wife after a full quiver (!!!) of kids for a shack up Russian honey who more and more appears like the bait in a honey trap.

It’s almost as if he extracted all the good out of himself in creating the Passion, and all he has left is the evil. May God have mercy on his soul. I don’t believe that his first bunch of kids will...

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posted on 07/17/2010 10:51:49 AM PDT
by MarkBsnr
( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)

Maybe he’s lost his mind because on one hand he claims to be a Christian and on the other hand is mired in sin — his ongoing adulterous relationship with this woman is just one example. Such tension — and the energy poured into denying the Holy Spirit — drives you crazy.

He needs to leave his religion, repent, and turn to Christ. Christ will help Mel come to his right mind.

SSPX priests are not validly ordained. That’s the whole point of bringing them back in the episcopal fold so that they can be validly ordained. It’s no different than if you or I were to declare ourselves a priest.

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posted on 07/17/2010 11:45:31 AM PDT
by BenKenobi
(We cannot do everything at once, but we can do something at once. -Silent Cal)

Actually SSPX priests are validly ordained. The Church is absolutely clear on that point. That’s why SSPX priests can easily be incardinated into other orders or diocese if they so choose. They do not have to be (re)ordained. I have known two such priests.

Mel, Go back to church—go to the first Roman Catholic Church you can find and seek out the confessional. You were drunk, angry and placed in a position where you lost it. I will still go to your movies—I liked Errol Flynn’s films and he too hated Jews. Next time make a religious film. Maybe something on The books of Acts. Maybe Quo Vadis. Find forgiveness in good works. Use your God given talents to bring people to Christ.

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