I'm not sure what kind of work (if any) Sko will need to do to these but my work in updating the 2017 files is done. Please check players on teams from Philly through Washington and let me know how it looks.

Don't know but there seems to be a few players missing from the current roster such as Chasson Randle; Shawn Long; David Nwaba; Jarred Uthoff

That being said, Chasson Randle has played 10 minutes per game for 230 total minutes, Shawn Long has played 13 minutes per game for 198 total minutes, David Nwaba has played 18 minutes per game for 315 total minutes, and Jarred Uthoff has played 7 minutes per game for 28 total minutes. I'm assuming those are all rookies or very young players who are getting some burn at the end of the season and/or are getting some burn because of injuries. IMO, they don't even qualify as being rotation guys and definitely haven't played enough minutes to be assigned realistic ratings and tendencies. If Sko did create them, I would apply template information to them and they would be TURRIBLE.

I get it, I was just comparing yours and Skoadams project to Medevenx's and yours is, with all due respect to Med, way more complex in terms of players, teams, tendencies etc. I wish you the best of luck in your long lasting project

I don't know his methods of determining ratings/tendencies but I would tip my hat to him in terms of overall players he's added. I'm sure he has the guys you mentioned as he always does a great job of making sure he can fit in as many of that type of player as possible.

- will it contain a version of peak Admiral (94-96) or is 99 Robinson the best one in there?- same question for 04 Garnett.- Would you consider adding Brandon Roy to the FA pool? He is much better than guys like Starbury, Mashburn or Iso Joe.- to me 16 GSW is much better than 15 GSW, especially Curry himself. That team was unlucky to have Curry injured in the playoffs and playing vs a much better finals opponent.

94-96 Robinson and 04 Garnett won't be in there because their teams just weren't good enough and they are already in the project (albeit different years). In this project, we are minimizing having duplicate players and we are also only including the best of the best teams.

I would consider adding Roy to the FA pool. I'd be open to hearing other players that could be added to the FA pool, also. When picking the FA list, I looked at basketball-reference.com's top 100 or 500 list and picked the players from the top 100 that weren't already in the project. I won't add FA that would be a duplicate of a player who is already on a team.

slimm44 wrote:94-96 Robinson and 04 Garnett won't be in there because their teams just weren't good enough and they are already in the project (albeit different years). In this project, we are minimizing having duplicate players and we are also only including the best of the best teams.

I see, fair enough. Are you dead set with the 01 76ers & 02 Nets over the 04 Pacers, 03/06/07 Mavs and the 04 Wolves? I'm really happy you choose the 07 Suns over 05.

I would consider adding Roy to the FA pool. I'd be open to hearing other players that could be added to the FA pool, also. When picking the FA list, I looked at basketball-reference.com's top 100 or 500 list and picked the players from the top 100 that weren't already in the project. I won't add FA that would be a duplicate of a player who is already on a team.

Mark Price, A. Sabonis & Mike Finley could be good candidates for the FA list. Maybe you also want to consider Zo Mourning & Ginobili (+ Jalen Rose & Steve Smith as lesser players). They are already in there and Manu probably 3x even but either way too young or too old and never close to their primes (if player ratings are based on that one season only). Brad Miller is another one who could be added to the list, not a star by any means but a good player with a different style (love passing Cs).

Those are all players I like and personally would want to see in the roster. The list looks really comprehensive and I can't think of any big names missing.

In what ways do you feel 16 GSW was better than 15 GSW?

I f memory serves right it was Internal improvement & role changes that made them a more dominant team.

Green became the main playmaker (look at his assist numbers) and Curry became more aggressive with his shot and dominated on a higher level than before (in the regular season). Their offensive style changed as they took even more advantage of Curry's shooting and became a better team as a result, a development that has since been reversed with the addition of Durant.If that change in playing style is not reflected in the ratings & tendencies though, it won't matter which year is chosen.

I have no idea if it will be playable in blacktop mode. Sko takes care of what modes it will be playable in and I haven't talked to him in a week or more.

I think we could add those FA (as long as there is room in the file, which there should be.) I'd need to compare the ratings/sig skills between 2015 and 2016 GSW to see how much difference they would make from year to year. I can calculate the 2015 GSW information in about 10 minutes and I have already changed the 2016 roster to season specific information. I'll let you know the differences in-game.

I'm not really dead set on the 2001 76ers being in over those other squads but the other squads didn't make the finals and the 76ers did. Besides, they had Iverson in his absolute prime that year and he was (at least arguably) a better overall player than anybody on the other squads (aside from possibly prime KG on that 04 Timberwolves squad). IMO, that 01 76ers squad is also the most iconic of those teams. You can offer some arguments on their behalf but I doubt I'll change my mind.

The 76ers are surely more popular than the other teams and more iconic than the not-so-exiciting Wolves & Pacers butI'm not so sure about the 06 Mavs. The 2006 Western Conference Semi-Finals vs San Antonio is the highest quality series that any of these teams have played and at least as iconic as 76ers-Raptors in 01 and the Conference Finals vs Phoenix that year are not far behind. Dirk's team had a legendary run through the WC in 06. I have to say I don't know Philly & Indiana too well but I strongly believe the Wolves and the three Mavs teams were better than them at basketball. In 2001, the Western Conferece sports 4 teams that certainly beat the Sixers (Lakers, Blazers, Kings, Spurs) and 2 that have a good chance to do so (Mavs, Wolves). The 03 Mavs & 04 Wolves had good chances at a championship (better chances than Philly) and went out due to playoff injuries to key players. The 06 Mavs were as successful as the 76ers but are probably an afterthought in people's minds due to the way they lost the finals while Philly was heralded for winning that one game as huge underdogs, handing the Lakers their only playoff loss that year. 07 Mavs are weird due to suffering that historic upset but were a great team in the regular season. I mentioned them (and 16 GSW) because I care more about quality than success. 03 Mavs might even be similarily iconic as the 76ers, representing the wild Don Nelson years with great offense in stark contrast to the rather ugly game the Sixers played.

Dirk & KG are two of my favorite players and I don't really like Iverson's game so I'm biased here but I'm confident both of them are clearly superior players and I can go into detail if you want. Iverson has that lone-offensive-star-carries-a-bad-team-to-surprising-success story in his bag which is always great publicity and comparable to this year's Thunder, 06 Lakers, and early years of Jordan & Lebron (2015 finals even, considering injuries). KG and David Robinson also carried similarily bad teams to 50 win seasons but never reached the finals until they got better teammates and usually played better opponents but found success with defense & teamplay rather than as lone gunners so they don't get the same kind of stories written. I'd always take the player who can improve an already good team rather than one who carries a bad team to mediocrity. Some even consider Iverson's peak (impact-wise) to be with the Nuggets due to a more efficient & team-oriented playing style and I'm inclined to agree. How do you go about building a great team with 01 AI or 17 Westbrook without changing how they play? But I'm getting off on a tangent here. [ok, that was too harsh on Westbrook]

In the end Dirk & KG already have teams in your list, even if they're past their physical peaks in those years and Iverson had that iconic year with team success and a memorable playoff series. I wouldn't choose the Sixers (or Nets) but won't say it's wrong to do so.

che wrote:The 76ers are surely more popular than the other teams and more iconic than the not-so-exiciting Wolves & Pacers butI'm not so sure about the 06 Mavs. The 2006 Western Conference Semi-Finals vs San Antonio is the highest quality series that any of these teams have played and at least as iconic as 76ers-Raptors in 01 and the Conference Finals vs Phoenix that year are not far behind. Dirk's team had a legendary run through the WC in 06. I have to say I don't know Philly & Indiana too well but I strongly believe the Wolves and the three Mavs teams were better than them at basketball. In 2001, the Western Conferece sports 4 teams that certainly beat the Sixers (Lakers, Blazers, Kings, Spurs) and 2 that have a good chance to do so (Mavs, Wolves). The 03 Mavs & 04 Wolves had good chances at a championship (better chances than Philly) and went out due to playoff injuries to key players. The 06 Mavs were as successful as the 76ers but are probably an afterthought in people's minds due to the way they lost the finals while Philly was heralded for winning that one game as huge underdogs, handing the Lakers their only playoff loss that year. 07 Mavs are weird due to suffering that historic upset but were a great team in the regular season. I mentioned them (and 16 GSW) because I care more about quality than success. 03 Mavs might even be similarily iconic as the 76ers, representing the wild Don Nelson years with great offense in stark contrast to the rather ugly game the Sixers played.

Dirk & KG are two of my favorite players and I don't really like Iverson's game so I'm biased here but I'm confident both of them are clearly superior players and I can go into detail if you want. Iverson has that lone-offensive-star-carries-a-bad-team-to-surprising-success story in his bag which is always great publicity and comparable to this year's Thunder, 06 Lakers, and early years of Jordan & Lebron (2015 finals even, considering injuries). KG and David Robinson also carried similarily bad teams to 50 win seasons but never reached the finals until they got better teammates and usually played better opponents but found success with defense & teamplay rather than as lone gunners so they don't get the same kind of stories written. I'd always take the player who can improve an already good team rather than one who carries a bad team to mediocrity. Some even consider Iverson's peak (impact-wise) to be with the Nuggets due to a more efficient & team-oriented playing style and I'm inclined to agree. How do you go about building a great team with 01 AI or 17 Westbrook without changing how they play? But I'm getting off on a tangent here.

In the end Dirk & KG already have teams in your list, even if they're past their physical peaks in those years and Iverson had that iconic year with team success and a memorable playoff series. I wouldn't choose the Sixers (or Nets) but won't say it's wrong to do so.

I gotta say, regardless of what team goes in the roster, this is a fun conversation. Thanks, Che.

I think what I'm going to do is apply season-specific edits to those teams and see which one is best. I have a little work to do on the 1987 roster and I'll get to those teams. When I responded earlier, I completely forgot the 06 Mavs. Also, keep in mind that any new teams or replacements will be done by Sko and I'm not sure what he'll be willing to do.

For the Elite roster it's going to be some time. Sko told me he probably won't be able to touch it until May (he's insanely busy with work). I am working on updating all of the rosters from 1985 to 2017 to season-specific information while I wait for him. I still need to calculate all the subjective and athletic information for all players from 1960-1984.

Love this mod, and particularly the NCAA rosters. Is anyone else seeing the "UK" logo show up for the Florida Gators when playing in game (i.e. the "UK" logo is showing up on the small scoreboard instead of Florida's logo)?

I'm seeing this for both NBA 2K13 and 2K14. There were a few posts back in 2016 about this, but not sure if there was a fix, or if I'm doing something wrong. Thanks!

I had somebody include like 8 or 9 new classic teams into the URB base (pre 84-85 teams). However, when they put the teams in, they did not include those teams logos, and many of the players have the black arm issue. Also, the teams before the introduction of the 3 point line, don't have a 3 point line.

Any chance if I send someone this roster, they could incorporate the correct logos for those teams, as well as fix the black arm issue? I could actually tackle the court issue myself.

If not, I totally understand, just figured I would throw it out there and ask. I was considering starting a Ultimate Best Teams Association and broadcasting it/or starting a thread with videos on it.

Thanks for considering!

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

Wow that looks great, thanks for sharing! If you don't mind me asking -- do you use any particular visual enhancements, aside from the Global that is included with the URB files? I've been trying out different SweetFX combos, but can't seem to find one that looks as good as yours.

Wow that looks great, thanks for sharing! If you don't mind me asking -- do you use any particular visual enhancements, aside from the Global that is included with the URB files? I've been trying out different SweetFX combos, but can't seem to find one that looks as good as yours.

Well it's a funny story....

This is actually with the default global from the game, no graphics mods, with the game maxed out. I've always been about using globals made by the amazing modders on here (SJ, Lagoa, etc), but I went back to the default one for the more natural look of it. Sometimes I like to put things back to default in order to appreciate the original product.

Of course, the game is still modded to the teeth with the scoreboard, courts, cyberfaces, stadiums etc that have been supplied by the URB, but yeah... just the default.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

Hi guys, great work, but I noticed the 1989 draft class has all the wrong players now. They are all computer generated players now, I noticed before it was the correct players in the past. Something must of changed with one of the updates.

what is your personal preference about 2k13 and 2k14 mod, on which game do you prefer to play it, i mean which do you think brings best of urb in terms of realism?

I know you are not asking me, but I'll give my opinion... because I have a strong one.

NBA 2K14 has one advantage over 2k13 in my opinion, Shot blocking. Otherwise, NBA 2K13 was superior. The dribbling moves, the offensive moves in general, are more realistic and you can do more in 2K13. You can drop step dunk, and spin move dunk in NBA 2K13, you can't in 2k14.

So, I choose 2k13 overall, 2k13 would be complete if it had good shot blocking.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

what is your personal preference about 2k13 and 2k14 mod, on which game do you prefer to play it, i mean which do you think brings best of urb in terms of realism?

I know you are not asking me, but I'll give my opinion... because I have a strong one.

NBA 2K14 has one advantage over 2k13 in my opinion, Shot blocking. Otherwise, NBA 2K13 was superior. The dribbling moves, the offensive moves in general, are more realistic and you can do more in 2K13. You can drop step dunk, and spin move dunk in NBA 2K13, you can't in 2k14.

So, I choose 2k13 overall, 2k13 would be complete if it had good shot blocking.

They were gearing towards next gen at that point, and we basically got the simplified controls that was given to the first version of next gen 2k. Now... I will say... graphically NBA 2K14 next gen is my favorite, but they dumbed down the offensive repertoire for that game. I still like 2K14, but it is not as complete.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

I have been logged off for about a month or so and took a break from editing. I am currently updating rosters to season-specific information. I have no idea how long it will take me to make these updates and I am going to log back out when I post this.

In regards to the Elite roster, Sko and I haven't talked much at all about it. I'm not sure where he is in the process but, as far as I know, we are still planning on releasing it at some point in time.

As far as more season rosters, I don't know what we are going to do. That's the best answer I have right now.

slimm44 wrote:I have been logged off for about a month or so and took a break from editing. I am currently updating rosters to season-specific information. I have no idea how long it will take me to make these updates and I am going to log back out when I post this.

In regards to the Elite roster, Sko and I haven't talked much at all about it. I'm not sure where he is in the process but, as far as I know, we are still planning on releasing it at some point in time.

As far as more season rosters, I don't know what we are going to do. That's the best answer I have right now.

Dude how about you fix player ages that you fucked up and cavaliers for some reason have two tyron lues on bench I edited ages but I have no key for editing staff for nba since you guys all have problems with keys seems not coincidence...so I may stick it how it is! and I created most realistic sliders I would say the way players attack and defend seems like a great balance so they don't blow up score board ....shooting fg are more real to life...

slimm44 wrote:I have been logged off for about a month or so and took a break from editing. I am currently updating rosters to season-specific information. I have no idea how long it will take me to make these updates and I am going to log back out when I post this.

In regards to the Elite roster, Sko and I haven't talked much at all about it. I'm not sure where he is in the process but, as far as I know, we are still planning on releasing it at some point in time.

As far as more season rosters, I don't know what we are going to do. That's the best answer I have right now.

Dude how about you fix player ages that you fucked up and cavaliers for some reason have two tyron lues on bench I edited ages but I have no key for editing staff for nba since you guys all have problems with keys seems not coincidence...so I may stick it how it is! and I created most realistic sliders I would say the way players attack and defend seems like a great balance so they don't blow up score board ....shooting fg are more real to life...

Wow, you seem like a real nice guy to speak with. I hope you don't talk like this in real life.

If the roster has a couple minor issues, that's expected. You literally have over 30 full NBA seasons, to go with other benefits.

I see this is your first post, starting your sentences off with that tone will get you nowhere on this forum. Nobody will want to help. These projects take thousands of hours of hard work, and the modders don't get paid for it. They are literally doing this for the community as a friendly act. Politely ask if they can fix something if something is off.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

Hi guys! I downloaded from your site with roster files. And I found out there were missing draft files 1989 1990 1991. No draft files 89-90-91. Also there is an empty folder "Asso files". No files in "Asso files". What is the matter of the peasants? So it should be?Sorry for my english

izi001 wrote:Hi guys! I downloaded from your site with roster files. And I found out there were missing draft files 1989 1990 1991. No draft files 89-90-91. Also there is an empty folder "Asso files". No files in "Asso files". What is the matter of the peasants? So it should be?Sorry for my english

slimm44 wrote:I have been logged off for about a month or so and took a break from editing. I am currently updating rosters to season-specific information. I have no idea how long it will take me to make these updates and I am going to log back out when I post this.

In regards to the Elite roster, Sko and I haven't talked much at all about it. I'm not sure where he is in the process but, as far as I know, we are still planning on releasing it at some point in time.

As far as more season rosters, I don't know what we are going to do. That's the best answer I have right now.

Dude how about you fix player ages that you fucked up and cavaliers for some reason have two tyron lues on bench I edited ages but I have no key for editing staff for nba since you guys all have problems with keys seems not coincidence...so I may stick it how it is! and I created most realistic sliders I would say the way players attack and defend seems like a great balance so they don't blow up score board ....shooting fg are more real to life...

Wow, you seem like a real nice guy to speak with. I hope you don't talk like this in real life.

If the roster has a couple minor issues, that's expected. You literally have over 30 full NBA seasons, to go with other benefits.

I see this is your first post, starting your sentences off with that tone will get you nowhere on this forum. Nobody will want to help. These projects take thousands of hours of hard work, and the modders don't get paid for it. They are literally doing this for the community as a friendly act. Politely ask if they can fix something if something is off.

Ok I'm sorry I will tell one more time what I wanted to say in nice way....this is the worst project I ever seen and it's fucking garbage......and those project makers are always someone who don't know nothing about basketball or players roster in each team......how about you don't make a average project like this!If you guys want big time project from A till Z then make it instead of making average half way project which sucks ass....and is full with bugs ...wrong age wrong heights...wrong...names...and game crashes!!! its shit !

If you only knew the amount of work that went into this project, you have no right to act like this. You are also wrong. I havn't encountered any crashing using this roster, and while some things are a little off here and there, it is a very complete mod. Courts, jerseys, some stadiums, cyberfaces, portraits, ratings, vitals, etc. C'mon, you have to be blind to not see the amount of hard work and dedication that went into this mod. Literally thousands of hours.

What did you do? Oh yeah, you downloaded all the work the creators put out there, and followed that up with insulting the work (Also lying about it). Trust me, thousands and thousands of downloads later, tons of positive feedback and praise, do you think they really put stock into someone with your attitude?

Just uninstall the mod, and go back to the default 2k. You clearly have a bad attitude, bad communication skills, and cannot appreciate or identify great work.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

lightsout23 wrote:Ok I'm sorry I will tell one more time what I wanted to say in nice way....this is the worst project I ever seen and it's fucking garbage......and those project makers are always someone who don't know nothing about basketball or players roster in each team......how about you don't make a average project like this!If you guys want big time project from A till Z then make it instead of making average half way project which sucks ass....and is full with bugs ...wrong age wrong heights...wrong...names...and game crashes!!! its shit !

If you're going to double down on that attitude, then this community definitely isn't right for you. Constructive feedback is fine and we want to respect people's freedom of speech, but that isn't an acceptable attitude as per our rules and code of conduct. At the end of the day it's our party, and if guests don't want to behave themselves or treat each other with respect, they get shown the door. There's the door.

I have been able to get the 1960's decade about halfway updated. All statistical ratings are done except for about half of the shot ratings and shot tendencies. Once those are done, I'll be able to work on the subjective/athletic ratings for that decade, then play types and signature skills. Once I get that decade done, I'll move on to the 70's, then 80-84.

PattheHead, thanks again for your permission to apply my edits to your mod. You put in an INCREDIBLE amount of work and detail into this mod. Bravo, friend.

I have been able to get the 1960's decade about halfway updated. All statistical ratings are done except for about half of the shot ratings and shot tendencies. Once those are done, I'll be able to work on the subjective/athletic ratings for that decade, then play types and signature skills. Once I get that decade done, I'll move on to the 70's, then 80-84.

PattheHead, thanks again for your permission to apply my edits to your mod. You put in an INCREDIBLE amount of work and detail into this mod. Bravo, friend.

I have been able to get the 1960's decade about halfway updated. All statistical ratings are done except for about half of the shot ratings and shot tendencies. Once those are done, I'll be able to work on the subjective/athletic ratings for that decade, then play types and signature skills. Once I get that decade done, I'll move on to the 70's, then 80-84.

PattheHead, thanks again for your permission to apply my edits to your mod. You put in an INCREDIBLE amount of work and detail into this mod. Bravo, friend.

I have been able to get the 1960's decade about halfway updated. All statistical ratings are done except for about half of the shot ratings and shot tendencies. Once those are done, I'll be able to work on the subjective/athletic ratings for that decade, then play types and signature skills. Once I get that decade done, I'll move on to the 70's, then 80-84.

PattheHead, thanks again for your permission to apply my edits to your mod. You put in an INCREDIBLE amount of work and detail into this mod. Bravo, friend.

any word from @sko?

I talked to him briefly today. He said he should be able to resume editing soon.

I need someone who can edit the playbook_actual and staff tabs in REDmc. I can't edit those tabs and basically all I have left to edit on the 1960 roster is the playbooks and the coaching profiles. Contact me if you can edit the playbook_actual and staff tabs in REDmc for 2k13.

slimm44 wrote:I need someone who can edit the playbook_actual and staff tabs in REDmc. I can't edit those tabs and basically all I have left to edit on the 1960 roster is the playbooks and the coaching profiles. Contact me if you can edit the playbook_actual and staff tabs in REDmc for 2k13.

i would be the first one to offer you a hand if i had redmc. but i don't and i never used it.

UPDATE: I probably have 1-3 more days on the 70's decade, then a few days on 1980-1984.After that, I'll need to look at speed/quickness/vertical ratings of all players from 60-84, update playbooks, and update coaching profiles and I think Pat's project will be completely updated with my edits. Hopefully, I can have the entire thing completely converted by the end of June, if not earlier.