Well, BW you certainly posted a lot. I asked for a 6-inch and you bought me a foot long sub, thank you. I’ll put it in the fridge for now and read it some more when I get home from work. (hopefully they let me go)

thatkidakayoungguy wrote:In some ways globalism is good-we are seeing results of it now, and *in itself* it isn't ungodly.
But since this world is of Satan, naturally it's going to be used for a lot of bad things. We are also seeing that happening.

Btw, I think a roach landed on me.

You do realize that it is treason to push for global government in secret where our politicians are abandoning the Constitution they swore to uphold and defend?You do know that it is against the law and people have been put to death for treason also? Why is is good for our politicians to be carrying out a globalist agenda in secret being controlled by unelected people who control them with money,blackmail,etc? It is very bad and this is just if we look at it from a secular view point. Because if we bring the bible into it and get into bible prophecy we know that a global government eventually leads to the mark of the beast system,and so if you support it? You're helping bring about the mark of the beast eventually. I actually believe that it is not time for the tribulation yet and so God is using Trump to slow globalism down because God has souls on his mind and wants to reach as many people as possible world wide before the tribulation.It is not time for the tribulation yet as i have said many of times when discussing bible prophecy as there are still prophecies that must be fulfilled before other prophecies can be fulfilled and so eventhough we are in the last days we are not close to the tribulation,the mark of the beast and the coming of Jesus yet.

No, i don't support the mark of the beast.
What the person above me said regarding international trade is more accurate to what I mean.
Oftentimes the two ideas overlap.

Hortator wrote:Well, BW you certainly posted a lot. I asked for a 6-inch and you bought me a foot long sub, thank you. I’ll put it in the fridge for now and read it some more when I get home from work. (hopefully they let me go)

That is what happens when folks do not want to look into and research things on there own...

Really good sold out progressives expect someone else to do the research and all the work

B. W. wrote:...So what do folks know about this push toward one world govt - the globalist point of view - bad - good?

Here is the Frankfurt School - 11 objectives... now ask yourself, are these 11 steps happening in Europe and America?

THE 11-STEP PLAN OF CULTURAL SUBVERSION

1-The creation of racism offences.

2-Continual change to create confusion

3-The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children

4-The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority

5-Huge immigration to destroy identity.

6-The promotion of excessive drinking

7-Emptying of churches

8-An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime

9-Dependency on the state or state benefits

10-Control and dumbing down of media

11-Encouraging the breakdown of the family

note:

The aim of the Frankfurt School (as it was to become known) – was for members to work on different areas on how to collapse Western society. Adorno, Lukacs, Horkheimer, Munzenberg, Fromm, Reich, Marcuse and others all went on to develop their own theories in different areas, but towards the same mutual objective of destroying Western civilisation from within....

They developed “Critical Theory” as a tool to undermine society via Academia, which in theory would seep into politics, pop culture and accepted thinking. Therefore, infiltrating the Universities was (and still is) the key part of the “Long March” [#12] – for as Lenin said: “Give me just one generation of youth, and I will change the world.”

The Marxist origins state that by creating division between victim groups, one creates tension and discord, and enough conflict can cause collapse and ultimately a state of chaos. This “Divide and Conquer” strategy [#7] is best seen today in Obama’s race-baiting politics. Once Chaos is reached, the plan is to present “Socialism” as “The Answer”.

This Machiavellian way of creating a problem, so people cry out for the solution you have planned in advance (Problem-Reaction-Solution) is known as the Hegelian Dialectic [#8]. It is no mistake the New World Order motto is “Ordo Ab Chao” (Order Out of Chaos) [#11]....

The Cultural Marxist’s ‘Critical Theories’ took hold in the tumultuous 1960s, when the Vietnam War opened a Pandora’s Box of reevaluaton and revolution. The student radicals of the era were strongly influenced by revolutionary ideas, among them those of Herbert Marcuse, a member of the Frankfurt School who preach the “Great Refusal,” a rejection of all basic Western concepts and an embrace of sexual liberation, and the merits of feminist and black revolutions. His primary thesis was that university students, ghetto blacks, the alienated, the asocial, and the Third World could take the place of the proletariat in the coming Communist revolution.

Marcuse may be the most important member of the Frankfurt School in terms of the origins of Political Correctness, because he was the critical link to the counterculture of the 1960s. His objective was clear: “One can rightfully speak of a cultural revolution, since the protest is directed toward the whole cultural establishment, including morality of existing society.”

More quotes from the founders from cited article

“The western world has been thoroughly saturated with Christianity for 2000 years… any country grounded in Judaeo-Christian values cannot therefore be overthrown until those roots are cut… but to cut the roots, to change the culture – a Long March through the institutions is necessary. Only then will power fall into our laps like ripened fruit!”
Antonio Gramsci

“…to organize the intellectuals and use them to make Western civilization stink. Only then, after they have corrupted all its values and made life impossible, can we impose the dictatorship of the proletariat.”
Willi Munzenberg

“I want a culture of pessimism … a world abandoned by God”
Georg Lukacs

“Stalin was an incompetent wuss… I will show you ow to overthrow the West!”
Herbert Marcuse

“The white races of Europe should be destroyed and replaced with a race of Eurasian-Negroids who can be easily controlled by the Elites.”
Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi, whose Pan-Europa Movement and book “Praktischer Idealmus” (1924) inspired the modern EU [#4].

Wow, B.W., that's one vast and all-encompassing conspiracy. You've managed to take everything you dislike and distrust and cram it under the heading "progressivism."

I don't think that anyone could possibly prove you wrong - you've packed in details from the entire course of human history and it would take years to do the research required to refute all of your casual, unsupported claims. Beyond that, by now I'm fully aware that even if I spent the next decade unraveling your conspiracy theory and systematically debunking it, you'd just brush it off as liberal nonsense. There is no argument, no matter how carefully constructed and deeply supported, that will change your mind.

That said, if you want to have a discussion, I'm perfectly happy to engage with you, provided that you follow a couple of ground rules:

1) No vast, all-encompassing conspiracy theories - We're engaged in casual discourse on an internet forum, and there's no way that anyone here can possibly respond to a post that makes a hundred different claims. Make one, specific claim and we can discuss it. And to be clear, an allegation that there's a vast conspiracy that encompasses everything you fear and hate and goes all the way back to Nebuchadnezzar is not one claim, and "liberals are bad" is not specific.

2) You must read and respond to my actual words, not to the subtext that you suspect is there.

Thing is, a lot of what B.W. has posted has been true, to varying degrees, with various groups pursuing related agendas - with many of them certain that it's being pursued for the greater good of mankind. Of course, many are merely seeking to manipulate and grab power, influence and money. As for many others who think globalism and consolidated power in the hands of key elites is a good thing - well, that's been the mentality of many on the political right and the left - with each having had it's own views as to why this would be a good thing, as well as how they would like to apply it. It's been across various religions. From ancient pagans, Greek and Roman empires - there have been many variants of such pursuits. Many seem to only see the positive outcomes they believe possible, while totally ignoring the pitfalls and dangers.

But as for these various groups being collectively organized in a joint, gigantic conspiracy, on some grand scale - I don't see it. But that's not to say there aren't many people and factions who are pursuing their own group's visions and versions of such. But many more people are keen on some of the basic concepts of globalist objectives, and yet are not in any organized group. But as for the existence of an organized, evil conspiracy of a spiritual nature - well, most Christians agree with that, Scripture teaches it. So however this might be utilized to manipulate and deceive the masses and those with globalist visions and power structures, via dark spiritual forces - no Christian should be surprised at that. But those denying any such realm, who only see the physical as encompassing all that has ever existed, that will end at death - they will only laugh at even the suggestion that dark spiritual forces and evil even exist.

I am not a fan of conspiracy theories, we don't need them since people are stupid enough.

1) I want to put an application on your phone that monitors where you are, where you go, who you call and text and sends that information to me so I can make money off of it and know where you are at all times and who you message and what you like.

WTF ???

Or:
1) I want to offer you an APP that allows YOU to know where you are ( never get lost) where you go ( finds you the quickest route) who you call ( allows you to access your friends quickly and easily) and helps you get the things you like as fast and inexpensive as possible, all with minimal effort to you !