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Tue, 31 Mar 2015 20:43:46 +0000hourly1By: » Fr. Flanagan Wouldn’t Qualify Either Omar Gutiérrezhttp://www.catholicvote.org/fr-flanagan-wouldnt-qualify-either/comment-page-1/#comment-82467
» Fr. Flanagan Wouldn’t Qualify Either Omar GutiérrezSat, 14 Jul 2012 19:41:29 +0000http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=28944#comment-82467[...] http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=28944 [...]
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Steve MMon, 16 Apr 2012 15:17:20 +0000http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=28944#comment-73840Tom is very right. Our individual hypocrisy has lead to an institutional hypocrisy. We all want a culture where we can do what we want when we want without consequences. Hopefully the current situation serves as a wake up call to the Church and to each of us to get back in there and start teaching the Truth. Unfortunately we all need some consequences so we start living the Faith not just professing it. Bishops, priests and lay people to start really quesitoning our own individual actions instead of defending these. Like St. Patrick start of with “I Steve a sinner” in the morning and then really acknowledge my sins and beg for Mercy. This seems the only way it will change. Fr. Flanagan showed that perfect Love for these children. Let’s ask for his prayers to help each individual start with themselves so show the Love of Christ.
]]>By: Tomhttp://www.catholicvote.org/fr-flanagan-wouldnt-qualify-either/comment-page-1/#comment-73716
TomSat, 14 Apr 2012 01:27:02 +0000http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=28944#comment-73716The HHS mandate regarding insurance coverage of birth control is a clever divide and conquer strategy regarding Catholics. The politicos know that the Catholic Church has a huge internal problem on the issue of birth control that we, the Catholic people, have left unresolved for about 50 years now. On the books, artificial birth control is a mortal sin, and even limiting children by natural means is allowed only for grave reasons. The Catholic Church has keep itself from disintegration in the West by adopting a de facto “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy on use of artificial birth control by sexually active Catholics. We all know that on any give Sunday at any give Mass, most of the sexually active adults in the Communion line are using artificial birth control. The HHS mandate is a political move to separate the more liberal Catholics from the more conservative Catholics and from the their bishops. In terms of pure cleverness, they are to be admired. But they are only exploiting a more prior problem of conscience, which that Catholics are, in very large numbers (a majority of sexually active Catholics), regularly doing an act that the bishops and popes have declared to be a mortal sin. The problem in all this is not the HHS or the White House. The problem is primarily OUR OWN, an internal Catholic problem. We cannot go on forever with this state of affairs, in which he have most of our people regularly committing a mortal sin, or what the bishops say is a mortal sin. The White House’s action has succeeding in showing what hypocrites we Catholics are on this issue of birth control. That hurts. But when a large group is so hypocritical, it is fair game for its opponents to use whatever ammo they can. We Catholics have handed this ammo to them. The primary shame is not on the presidential administration. The primary shame is on us. Yet, I never hear any one say this. To me, a major nobody, this all seems like a no brainer. If most Catholics were following Church teachings on sexuality, the presidential administration would not have even dared to issue this HHS mandate. But they can read polls, surveys and studies. They know that Catholics actually do. They know most Catholics are not united with their bishop and the pope on this issue. They are playing their cards astutely. Who can blame them. It is their goal to defeat the Catholic Church and reshape culture into something more like the more secular nations of Europe. But it is WE CATHOLICS who are making that happen, because we TALK THE TALK, but do not WALK THE WALK. We can file all the lawsuits we want against the HHS. We can be outraged all we want. We can redouble out efforts to elected conservative politicians. But that won’t reduce our hypocrisy ONE BIT. That won’t make us ONE BIT more holy, if we as a Catholic People just keep on using the birth control en masse as before. Jesus never called us to change the government or the laws. He called us to personal repentance, to personal faith, to personal submission to the Lord God. Why won’t Cardinal Dolan say this? I don’t have his phone number or I’d call and ask him. But I can guess. Because like all the other bishops, he doesn’t know the way out of this big mess that the Church is in regarding the massive non-compliance of Catholics to the Church’s teaching on sex related issues, including birth control, but also premarital sex, living together as unmarried couples, divorce and remarriage, etc. It is so much easier to file lawsuits than to pastor and lead a rebellious people back to the way of God. Yet, as seen in the Hebrew Bible especially, that is exactly the role of the prophet, and the role of those holding the offices in the Church with a prophetic responsibility. Catholic People, the villain of this story is not President O., or any party or faction or movement external to the Catholic Church! The villain of this piece is US, you and I and all our neighbors we sit next to at Mass every Sunday. We are hypocrites! Jesus was hardest of all in his condemnation of hypocrites! Catholics, VOTING is NOT a SACRAMENT of the Church. We cannot gain graces and holiness by voting for conservative politicians! Jesus never said or intimated any such thing. If we live in a country which has citizen voting, we should vote and vote prudently. But we cannot VOTE OUT WAY TO HOLINESS AND SALVATION. Neither Jesus nor St. Paul ever had the government on their side, yet they were VERY successful in spreading the saiving FAITH and LIGHT across the world. Catholics, I believe a prophet speaking today will tell US CATHOLICS that we have lost our way. We think we can vote ourselves int HOLINESS, can gain absolution for our sins by voting for conservatives!
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DavidThu, 12 Apr 2012 13:24:42 +0000http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=28944#comment-73558I don’t deny that Santorum was a man with a heart and convictions. He had some admirable qualities. However, there is a single candidate who undeniably has the champion of the cause for liberty, and that is Ron Paul. It just so happens that he is also the only truly pro-life candidate in the race. Among many other reasons, because I oppose the killing of innocents and the HHS Mandate, I will be wholeheartedly voting for Dr. Ron Paul.

(PS.– Ron Paul absolutely has more delegates than the news outlets project/guess. Also, there’s no way that anyone will have enough delegates to have the convention in the bag, which translates into more than one vote. That means that Ron Paul actually stands a better chance of winning the nomination than does Romney.)

]]>By: Brian Chttp://www.catholicvote.org/fr-flanagan-wouldnt-qualify-either/comment-page-1/#comment-73556
Brian CThu, 12 Apr 2012 12:52:24 +0000http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=28944#comment-73556I will still be voting for Rick Santorum in my state’s primary which has not yet occurred.
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Fr. Flanagan Wouldn’t Qualify Either | Regnum NovumThu, 12 Apr 2012 11:04:18 +0000http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=28944#comment-73554[...] http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=28944 [...]
]]>By: Kay Whitehttp://www.catholicvote.org/fr-flanagan-wouldnt-qualify-either/comment-page-1/#comment-73545
Kay WhiteThu, 12 Apr 2012 03:49:17 +0000http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=28944#comment-73545VOTE FOR RICK SANTORUM!
This has been a Grassroots campaign from the beginning! I would encourage everyone in all the states that have not voted to cast their vote for the most Loving Caring Person with a real heart in this campaign. His decision to suspend because of the stress on his family show what a true man he is!! This is the kind of Person that WE NEED in the the White House!! Vote and pass this on to everyone you know to show that the people have a voice and the people can WIN THIS CAMPAIGN WITHOUT ANY MORE STRESS ON THE CANDIDATE!! VOTE RICK – STAND UP FOR AMERICA. AMERICA’S HEART BEAT IS GROWING WEAKER BY THE DAY WITH THE RISING DEBT – AMERICANS ARE CRYING OUT FOR A LEADER LIKE OUR FOREFATHERS WHO LOVED AMERICA, GOD AND THEIR FAMILIES – THAT MAN IS RICK SANTORUM!
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