Bro we won the tourney be happy and just move on with it no need to be an angry young man. TBF to those esteemed analysts of CW there was nothing positive about Pakistan coming in to this tourney and the warm up games only confirmed the feeling that they would struggle. Forget CW not even the biggest cricket pundit would have predicted our victory.

My whole point!

When there is a general bias, numbers don't matter much and predictions are made on mere feelings. But when numbers are favorable Pundits say "i told you so"......... I am not angry just annoyed at the way these "pundits" spit garbage.

When there is a general bias, numbers don't matter much and predictions are made on mere feelings. But when numbers are favorable Pundits say "i told you so"......... I am not angry just annoyed at the way these "pundits" spit garbage.

Pakistan would have been impossible to predict with any degree of confidence, for 2 reasons: the very mercurial nature of Pakistan's cricket - who would have thought that the side which was so abject against England would have ended up winning as comfortably as they did?

Secondly, they've played almost no meaningful international cricket since the last T20 WC - so you can't really blame posters for going with the sides that have played more regularly and shown some semblance of form.

I thought about him, but there were a lot of questions coming into the tournament. Pakistan hadn't played much cricket lately, to say the least. How was his fitness? Would he still be as sharp?

He missed the IPL, and wasn't quite at his best in IPL 1 IIRC. Is there any reason to believe he'll suddenly regain the form of the last World T20 in a game that has moved on significantly in that time?

Pakistan didn't seem to be one of the strongest sides. Would they even get far enough for Gul to take more wickets than anyone else?

It's not that we underrated him, there was just a lot of uncertainty surrounding Gul and Pakistan. It would have been a brave man to predict him to outbowl every one of Steyn, Parnell, Edwards, Mendis, Murali, Malinga, Johnson, Vettori, Harbhajan, Afridi and Ajmal.

Tbf my comment was meant for the cricket world over the last two years. He was the most efficient wicket taker in the last WC but look at his price tag in the IPL. As an aside, I don't think IPL is a good enough measure of form. Wasn't Sohail Tanvir the best bowler of IPL 1?

Originally Posted by Sanz

Hey Seasonal mushroom where were you before Pakistan won ? If you were so sure of Pakistan's victory in the Cup, why didn't you join before and made the prediction ?

Tbf my comment was meant for the cricket world over the last two years. He was the most efficient wicket taker in the last WC but look at his price tag in the IPL. As an aside, I don't think IPL is a good enough measure of form. Wasn't Sohail Tanvir the best bowler of IPL 1?

Well yeah, but there are plenty of players (Dilshan most obviously) that took their IPL form into the World T20 too.

Pakistan would have been impossible to predict with any degree of confidence, for 2 reasons: the very mercurial nature of Pakistan's cricket - who would have thought that the side which was so abject against England would have ended up winning as comfortably as they did?

Secondly, they've played almost no meaningful international cricket since the last T20 WC - so you can't really blame posters for going with the sides that have played more regularly and shown some semblance of form.

None of the above betrays any sort of anti-Pakistan bias. Grow up.

^ This is not based on numbers is it?

I would understand if Pakistan is not a predicted winner. But when you don't count Pakistan in the equation of Semis or for that matter Finals at all with any probability, despite the numbers that they have in the T20 arena....that to me is plain prejudice and bias. Before the WC Pakistan had second to none winning percentages.

Moreover, how can you judge a team's T20 ability based on their lack of cricket in the test arena? T20 and Test is a different ball game.

As far as i am concerned Pakistan has backed up their impressive T20 numbers with this win......

I would understand if Pakistan is not a predicted winner. But when you don't count Pakistan in the equation of Semis or for that matter Finals at all with any probability, despite the numbers that they have in the T20 arena....that to me is plain prejudice and bias. Before the WC Pakistan had second to none winning percentages.

Moreover, how can you judge a team's T20 ability based on their lack of cricket in the test arena? T20 and Test is a different ball game.

As far as i am concerned Pakistan has backed up their impressive T20 numbers with this win......