re: The Root of the Les Criticism IMHO.(Posted by mach316 on 11/29/12 at 11:16 am to shang1)

People that blame "the hate" for les miles on the love for nick saban are the same ones that call you a racist for voting against obama. Its simply not true. People question his decision making on and off the field. It drives me crazy to see a sputtering offense every year. Chavis was called in to run the defense and has donea wonderful job, but les refuses to find an oc to do the same thing for the offense. No one is screaming for a spread o, just something a bit more original than bo's 30 year old playbook.

What frustrates me is playing down to the level of the competition. It denies the backups playing time and hurts our long term preparation. If Mett had more reps last year this year may have been different.

You can't win every game. I went ou to this site a couple days ago LINKWe should all complain at little less and be thankful for the run we are on.

re: The Root of the Les Criticism IMHO.(Posted by MN Tigah on 11/29/12 at 11:52 am to treble hook)

quote:He can't realize that the power I with one receiver shite doesn't work in the SEC.

Sorry buddy, but there is no such thing as a power I with one receiver. Maybe only one spread wide, but there are typically two other receivers eligible at the ends, and the RBs are also eligible receivers.

Saban was not perfect. I guarantee you if he stayed for an additional 3-4 yrs. (05-09), I don't think he would have done as well as Miles.

As far as recent coaching brain farts for Saban, look at the Aggie game. Best GD offensive line in decades and Grade A running backs. 4 minutes left in the game. 1 and goal on the Aggies' six yard line.

Run. PASS? PASS? PASS?

Really? Is that all you can muster with the line of the Decade (Century?) offensive line?

re: The Root of the Les Criticism IMHO.(Posted by treble hook on 11/29/12 at 12:48 pm to MN Tigah)

quote:He can't realize that the power I with one wide receiver shite doesn't work in the SEC.

I noticed how you never said this was successful in the SEC. Let the D put 9 guys in the box and no one can run on that. No one. Have to use the recievers to spread the D out. Then let Hill take care of business.

I give Les a mulligan for 2005 with Hurricane Katrina and his first year. 2006 we lost to two teams on the road ranked in the top 5 at the time. One of them won the title. 2007 had two triple OT games and still won the title with those losses. 2008 we had 4 qb's and a shitfest at D due to Mallveto. First gripe I had with Les not going after a big name DC to replace Pelini after the NC game and getting a huge raise. 2009 lost to two teams that were ranked #1 when we played them. Also had that horrible game against Ole Piss. If we just run the ball, we kick the FG and win after the onside kick. Decided to get stupid and throw the ball. 2010 had a few close calls with Tennessee and Florida. Had the ball leading Auburn on the road in the 4th and couldn't close the deal. Lost to Arkansas with a BCS bowl on the line. 2011 was great except the NC game. Wouldn't have matter who was the qb we were going to lose. This year if not for injuries and suspensions I think we would be playing for the SEC CG no doubt. Too much to overcome.

Thank GOD we've got a whole yr to go before this anti Miles crowd gets going again. Look thru the 101 threads bout this topic, just this wk alone, and it's the same ranters saying the same things, over & over again. With his track record, proven & earned in the toughest division in the toughest conference in the country, we have a great coach for another 7 yrs at least. Nice to know what we have to look forward to. He sucks at winning 80% of his games? Ranters here would have had heart attacks during the Hallman, DiNardo, Archer, Stovall yrs. Odd that those names come up, as they all got to be HC at LSU after LSU ran off Charley Mac, who only won 70% of his games. A coincidence? Numerous bad coaches coming after a good HC is run off?

quote:He directly game day coaches us out of games costing us a shot at the NC (see Bama this year). The team almost won despite his game day coaching.

Here is the scoop on the Bama game.

They practiced the fake fg all week. It worked. It just so happened that Bama played man (rarely happens on 4th and long). I'm sure les regrets this one.

The onside kick was brilliant and worked. Well, about six inches short. We had the moment, we get that, we win.

I spoke with players and they said when Les went for it all, they got absolutely pumped. Les threw everything we had that game, and the players knew it, and they gave everything they had. (If he would have been conservative everyone would bitch anyone. At least he put us in a position to win). People forget we were a TD underdog at home.

It's hard to win multiple titles, buddy. Since scholarships were reduced there have been very few multiple national championship coaches. Looks like it's Saban or bust if you're dissatisfied with Miles. Why don't you call Nick and get the talks started?

re: The Root of the Les Criticism IMHO.(Posted by Baloo on 11/29/12 at 3:00 pm to TDTGodfather)

quote:2009 Ole Miss-clock it

Here's the thing about that game. Had we won the game, LSU would've finished 3rd in the SEC and gone to the Citrus Bowl. By losing this game, LSU finished 3rd and went to the Citrus Bowl. The loss was about as meaningless as a loss could be. It cost LSU nothing (well, other than millions of stories on clock management)

The 3 Arkansas losses bother me far more. At the time, 2007 was the worst loss we've ever suffered, we just got lucky that it didn't matter. 2008 was a complete give up, and I would argue the worst loss of Miles' tenure (aside from 08 Ole Miss), and 2010 cost us a BCS bid to a team we never should've lost to.

As bad as 2009 OM was, it simply didn't matter even in the context of the season. People need to let that one go.