As long as corporations dictate our relationship to the environment... - Atheist Nexus2015-08-02T20:02:09Zhttp://atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/as-long-as-corporations-dictate-our-relationship-to-the?groupUrl=climate-concerns&commentId=2182797%3AComment%3A2065121&groupId=2182797%3AGroup%3A2032206&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHere's a humorous take on cor…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-10-11:2182797:Comment:20721992012-10-11T23:46:37.280ZRuth Anthony-Gardnerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/RuthAnthonyGardner
<p>Here's a humorous take on corporations dictating our relationship with nature.</p>
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<p>Here's a humorous take on corporations dictating our relationship with nature.</p>
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<p>Young people will wake up.</p>
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<p>Young people will wake up.</p>
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<p>Indeed. Changes aren't made at the corporate negotiating table, and few changes are made by negotiations among governments. The people rising up gets some action, although usually at great human cost.</p>
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<p>This is not just a US problem, and is not a problem which will be solved by having a different party in the white house or congress - not another 4 years of a Democratic president, and certainly not by having 4 years of yet-another Republican president. It won't even be solved if…</p>
<p>Indeed. Changes aren't made at the corporate negotiating table, and few changes are made by negotiations among governments. The people rising up gets some action, although usually at great human cost.</p>
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<p>This is not just a US problem, and is not a problem which will be solved by having a different party in the white house or congress - not another 4 years of a Democratic president, and certainly not by having 4 years of yet-another Republican president. It won't even be solved if someone like the Greens, or the Whigs, or the Libertarians or some other third-party win a majority of the seats and offices. This is simply a problem that cannot be solved by the US, not by the US alone, and effects far beyond US boarders or influence.</p>
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<p>It won't be solved by the corporations, who can scarcely see beyond next quarter's profits.</p>
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<p>The people could rise up, but it would have to be a world-wide, coordinated uprising. The internet could facilitate such a thing, and allow it to happen. Like past movements for real change, there will be a huge human cost in the matter - beyond a doubt.</p>
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<p>I'll be more pessimistic here, and suggest that even if people do rise up, and get governments and corporations to actually listen and change, or disappear and be run by a different philosophy, there is still the matter of how to clean up all of the greenhouse gasses already there. Not putting any more up will be a help, but the ones already up there will continue to make the problem worse before it gets better. Moreover, there's a problem in getting public support. All of these uprisings in the US will be for nothing if everyone drives to discreet events in their SUVs and drink their bottled water. It might make some people feel good, but no change will happen. Not until we get the buy-in of every person living on the planet - or nearly everyone.</p>
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<p>I fear the author was right in his sentence, "The final phase of 5,000 years of settled human activity ends with collective insanity." Indeed, our corporations, governments, and a significant amount of people appear to be collectively INSANE!</p>