Another week, another news alert about some Voldemort jerkoff turdface dude in politics, comedy, or Hollywood who’s made women’s lives miserable. I submit, as one possible avenue of dealing with this now-routine terribleness, making sure your podcast playlist is as full as possible of interviews with tough, cool, talented women like these.

Lisa Ling on Death, Sex, and Money talks about being raised by her dad, dancing on tables in New York City, and the heartbreak of long-distance love. Listen to this one if you hung on Lisa’s every word during Channel One News in your high school homeroom while finishing your homework while some idiot kicked your chair and flicked wads of paper past you.

Kathrine Switzer on The Runner’s World Podcast (#49) tells the story of how she became the first woman to run with a number in the Boston Marathon in 1967. As a post Title IX kid, it’s incredible to hear her talk about the ridiculous lengths she had to go to as a young woman who just wanted to lace up her sneakers and run. Listen to this one while you bust out five miles on the treadmill and everything feels a little easier and less shitty afterward even if it isn’t. Yet.

Barbara Corcoran is a woman who refuses to get knocked down. On How I Built This, she tells the story of how she went from waitressing at a diner in New Jersey to building a New York City real estate empire. There are so many moments where she’s forced to pivot and reinvent her business, and she just gets better at it every time. Listen to this one if the idea of a career change seems daunting, or if you’ve ever thought you might have a little hidden hustler/entrepreneur inside you who wants to come out.

On Song Exploder (#122), Rachel Platten tells the story of her song “Broken Glass,” the defiant song she started before the 2016 election and finished after it. Her other hit “Fight Song” was chosen as Hillary Clinton’s campaign anthem, the vitriol and hate she encountered during that time changed her irrevocably. Song Exploder edits out most of the interviewer’s questions so the whole story is told by the artist, and you can hear the shock and confusion Platten’s voice change to an edgy, brave toughness as she talks about how “Broken Glass” came to be.