IMHO it seem like most conservatives are full of hate. They don't see the harm they are doing to this country because they are consumed by their hate of the left. Liberals tend to be more open about different ideas, even ones they don't agree with. Conservatives tend to be close minded.

IMHO it seem like most conservatives are full of hate. They don't see the harm they are doing to this country because they are consumed by their hate of the left. Liberals tend to be more open about different ideas, even ones they don't agree with. Conservatives tend to be close minded.

If the leftist posters here are any indication, the conservatives are far from having a monopoly on closed-minded hateful individuals.

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IMHO it seem like most conservatives are full of hate. They don't see the harm they are doing to this country because they are consumed by their hate of the left. Liberals tend to be more open about different ideas, even ones they don't agree with. Conservatives tend to be close minded.

What are your thoughts in this issue?

The left thinker is part of a minority in this country. The question as I see it is, does the thinking of the left hold them back or propel them forward? When you're convinced that your way of thinking is superior to others yet the majority don't think the way you do, what does that say about your way of thinking? What does it say about oneself when you are compelled to tell others how superior your way of thinking is?

The left, ironically, has spawned much more violence and death over history than the right, by orders of magnitude. I think the belief in utopia and their moral rightness overcomes any individual right - to life, to property - for as long as this individual stands in their way of social nirvana. That has been the case throughout USSR, South America and all other countries controlled by commie movements.

For all the collective stupidity of the Tea Party movement, I just don't see the same hate radiated from them compared to what OWS and other left movements project against their adversaries (i.e. conservatives, neocons and anyone that was successful and got rich).

Hardcore conservatives certainly love to play armchair dictator, but it's the hardcore liberals that tend to take to the streets and break shit

No, conservative states have higher rates of crime and murder and such. Plus, let's not forget that it was conservatives who took up arms against the United States of America in the 1800s, OK City, and even the Jihadists are very socially conservative.

No, conservative states have higher rates of crime and murder and such. Plus, let's not forget that it was conservatives who took up arms against the United States of America in the 1800s, OK City, and even the Jihadists are very socially conservative.

Conservatism really builds up a lot of rage in people.

It was the liberals who took up arms against the Southerners.

It's the liberals in conservative states who kill people.

FDR was a liberal, and the Wilson Doctrine of "making the world safe for democracy" by bombing the hell out of people killed a lot more people than the Old Right did.

FDR was a liberal, and the Wilson Doctrine of "making the world safe for democracy" by bombing the hell out of people killed a lot more people than the Old Right did.

Conservatives attacked first and stabbed the country in the back.

Another example of hateful conservatives is Ron Paul, too. You have to be pretty hateful to be such a huge racist.

I'm not sure about liberals vs. conservatives in other areas of the world, but in the US it is pretty clear that conservatives are definitely more hateful. We can look at US history involved with slavery, women's right to vote, native Americans, almost every other minority group, homosexuals, etc. and see that generally at those times conservatives hated them and resisted change that we accept today, like no slavery, minorities being able to vote, women being able to vote, and so forth.

No, conservative states have higher rates of crime and murder and such.

Crime in most states (liberal or conservative) occurs mostly in larger urban areas, which almost uniformly lean liberal.

Not that it really matters, since the overwhelming majority of crimes aren't politically motivated. You could argue that the policies of conservative-leaning states exacerbate criminal behavior, but claiming that conservatives are directly violent because conservative-leaning states have a higher crime rate is really grasping at straws.

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Plus, let's not forget that it was conservatives who took up arms against the United States of America in the 1800s, OK City, and even the Jihadists are very socially conservative.

If you're going to include these extraordinary events as examples of conservative violence, then its only fair to include communist uprisings and other violent revolutions throughout modern history as examples of liberal violence.

Lincoln wanted them to attack. Lincoln jailed the fuck out of Northerners who opposed the war, taxed the hell out of them, conscripted them, sold land stolen from Native Americans to wealthy businessmen at below market prices, and did a whole lot of other bad shit including authorizing Sherman's March to the Sea. The only war by the Republic that was the least bit honest was the War of 1812.

Lincoln also had tried to have the Chief Justice Roger B Taney's ass arrested. He was successful in arresting the son of the writer of the National Anthem. I'm not the biggest Taney fan, but he still shouldn't have put a warrant out for his arrest.

Being a tyrant is mean enough to me. The CSA was far from perfect, but they had no where near as much blood on their hands as Lincoln and the union did.

If you're going to include these extraordinary events as examples of conservative violence, then its only fair to include communist uprisings and other violent revolutions throughout modern history as examples of liberal violence.

I don't think that we've had many violent communist uprisings in the US. Perhaps liberals vs. conservatives play out differently in other countries. But conservatives in the US are generally more hateful and more violent than liberals.

....... Liberals tend to be more open about different ideas, even ones they don't agree with.

Now that you mention it, I recall college professors being open minded with their students.

Several unions are organizations with incredibly open minds.

Criminals, typically supportive of democrats, are very open minded.

Inner city people, whom are generally democrats, are also open minded. The financially broke city of Detroit is "welcoming" the possibility of an emergency financial manager because they are so open minded to the reality of being near bankrupt.

Illegal immigrants, benefactors of democrats, are very open to new ideas, even to those outside the realm of our laws.

Alec Baldwin is a great example of liberal open mindedness.
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As far as being hateful, you're going to find some of that in every political party.

Now that you mention it, I recall college professors being open minded with their students.

Several unions are organizations with incredibly open minds.

Criminals, typically supportive of democrats, are very open minded.

Inner city people, whom are generally democrats, are also open minded. The financially broke city of Detroit is "welcoming" the possibility of an emergency financial manager because they are so open minded to the reality of being near bankrupt.

Illegal immigrants, benefactors of democrats, are very open to new ideas, even to those outside the realm of our laws.

Alec Baldwin is a great example of liberal open mindedness.
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As far as being hateful, you're going to find some of that in every political party.

Oh man you forgot how open minded the Brady group and other anti-2nd amendment groups are on the subject of gun rights.

Furthermore we all known that wealth redistribution is one of the most peaceful acts ever second to imposing and enforcing tax collection for flawed governmental policies or agencies.

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I don't think that we've had many violent communist uprisings in the US. Perhaps liberals vs. conservatives play out differently in other countries. But conservatives in the US are generally more hateful and more violent than liberals.

Ahahahaaaa......Wait so how many riots broke out when the Tea Party protestors were doing their thing again? How many Tea Party protestors were block ports, smashing windows of businesses, flipping over cop cars, etc?

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Liberals/Democrats are far more hateful. Look/Listen no further than democratic congressional rhetoric. "Sending women to the back alleys", "Republicans want to kill women", "Republicans want to poison 8000 people". etc....

The democratic party is for the simple minded individual who needs someone to think for them.