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Let's see what he does in his 2nd year of baseball before we put him in the hall.

I can see you haven't read my post right after that.

I'm just speculating really. I just said Trout's name because he had an incredible season this year and was the first person to come to mind. You could make the case for any player in the past who got voted no. Ruth, Mays, Ryan, etc...

How could someone explain themselves for saying that Babe Ruth does not belong in the Hall of Fame?

Isn't character a part of the decision-making process for voting for the HoF? For example, I remember seeing a movie about him where he punched out an umpire while he was pitching. The movie also depicted several other incidents of his troubled lifestyle. I think some of the voters held that against him.

He couldn't hit a curveball, but not many pitchers threw them. He greatly struggled with curveballs.

There have been some studies that 're-create' the home runs of Ruth's career. He would likely have been awarded a lot more home runs because of a few factors. If a ball hit the foul pole, it was ruled a ground-rule double. And if a ball hooked around the foul pole, it was a foul ball. One study said he would have had as many as 104 home runs in one year (believable or not). But that same study ignores that he was playing in the polo grounds, which had a joke of a right field.

He was so hot tempered that it was partially the reason he was traded from the Red Sox, and why he was almost traded from the Yankees in 23 after a suspension.

The Red Sox were offered 60,000 and Joe Jackson for Babe Ruth in 1919. The Red Sox preferred the financial offer from the Yankees which came with a loan. Babe wanted out of Boston because he wanted a raise to double his current pay, and Fraze wanted him out because of his attitude. Fraze was convinced Ruth would fail and got as much for him as he could find.

Yeah the Polo Grounds put Mel Ott on the map.

Yeah the Yanks almost did get rid of Ruth after '23.

Funny that such a legendary team won so few titles. The DiMaggio and then Mantle eras produced a lot more.

6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”

Isn't character a part of the decision-making process for voting for the HoF? For example, I remember seeing a movie about him where he punched out an umpire while he was pitching. The movie also depicted several other incidents of his troubled lifestyle. I think some of the voters held that against him.

Fights between players and players and players and umps were quite common back then. If you go back before 1910 or so there were fights with crowds, and all sorts of stuff going on.

6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”

He couldn't hit a curveball, but not many pitchers threw them. He greatly struggled with curveballs.

There have been some studies that 're-create' the home runs of Ruth's career. He would likely have been awarded a lot more home runs because of a few factors. If a ball hit the foul pole, it was ruled a ground-rule double. And if a ball hooked around the foul pole, it was a foul ball. One study said he would have had as many as 104 home runs in one year (believable or not). But that same study ignores that he was playing in the polo grounds, which had a joke of a right field.

He was so hot tempered that it was partially the reason he was traded from the Red Sox, and why he was almost traded from the Yankees in 23 after a suspension.

The Red Sox were offered 60,000 and Joe Jackson for Babe Ruth in 1919. The Red Sox preferred the financial offer from the Yankees which came with a loan. Babe wanted out of Boston because he wanted a raise to double his current pay, and Fraze wanted him out because of his attitude. Fraze was convinced Ruth would fail and got as much for him as he could find.

6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”