Patto is great, 10 ramps ( I think)never had to wait even in snapper season, tackle/bait shop opens 3-4am $170 for a yearly pass, 40 min from the city only problem is Etag payments.I think the ramps from Frankston all the way down are related if you have a seasons pass but I might be wrong.I don't often fish the North and if I do I usually go to StHelens in Geelong.I can't compare what fishes better as I go 90% out of Patto.Cheers Jeff

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