Williamson going ahead of Mike Williams? DJ falling to 14? I have to think Green Bay will go D in the first..

March 15th, 2005, 12:39 pm

Brian

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Where are people getting these ludacris thoughts that Mike Williams is falling out of the top 9? I don't think he falls out of the top 5. Gruden has given so many signs that he is going to take him at #5.

I feel the same way on derrick Johnson. I cant see him going past the Browns.

March 15th, 2005, 4:16 pm

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lionsfanva wrote:

I feel the same way on derrick Johnson. I cant see him going past the Browns.

Ditto... no one can convince me that 9 GMs will pass on a player like Derrick Johnson. Talent like that at the linebacker position only comes around once in a few years.

March 15th, 2005, 4:17 pm

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Brian wrote:

Where are people getting these ludacris thoughts that Mike Williams is falling out of the top 9? I don't think he falls out of the top 5. Gruden has given so many signs that he is going to take him at #5.

Gruden is also said to be enamored of Carnell Williams, and he can only pick one of them. So who is it going to be? I really feel that Gruden will go with Carnell over Mike.

Also, I don't see Cleveland springing for Derrick Johnson at #3, but I do think the Bears will take him at #4 more so than taking Cedric Benson or Carnell Williams, as some have said they may do.

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March 15th, 2005, 11:34 pm

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m2karateman wrote:

Gruden is also said to be enamored of Carnell Williams, and he can only pick one of them. So who is it going to be? I really feel that Gruden will go with Carnell over Mike.

Also, I don't see Cleveland springing for Derrick Johnson at #3, but I do think the Bears will take him at #4 more so than taking Cedric Benson or Carnell Williams, as some have said they may do.

Gruden made one quote at the senior bowl that Carnell was having a terrific week... That's it...

There's much more evidence out there that points to Mike Williams going #5... on KFFL Michael Clayton was pushing for the Bucs to draft Williams in an article... at Williams' workout both Bruce Allen and Jon Gruden attended the workout... Williams ran at the combine when he said he wasn't going to do so, hinting at the fact that a team told him that his stock is high, he didn't even bring a pair of shoes but ran with someone else's... also on Pro Football Weekly under the "Way we heard it", it states that the Bucs told Williams that if he was there at #5, they would take him, thus allowing him to run knowing that his stock was high. Tampa was extraordinarily interested in him last season as well, when they took Clayton, I heard from Jason at PFD, who spoke with a Tampa scout he knows last year. Pro Football Talk also wrote an article similar to Pro Football Weekly... GBN Report also stated that Williams was targeted by Tampa with the 5th pick...

And with a rusher like Michael Pittman already in place, and only Joey Galloway and Michael Clayton at WR, it's a larger need. Charlie Garner will also be back in the backfield.

As for Johnson... I don't see Chicago picking him up. They will go with RB or WR... Jerry Angelo said that they were "looking for the best offensive player" at #4. Makes sense, as their offense was the worst in the league last year and their defense was solid, it carried them in their victories.

March 16th, 2005, 1:18 am

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Good post Brian. I agree with all of that, except I think Charlie Garner is a shmuck. Pittman was decent last year and will be better this year if Ds don't stack the box and have to double Williams and Clayton.