<quoted text>Just suppose that the temperature difference was not that great between the North Pacific and the jet stream. And just suppose that meant that the winds driven by the jet stream didn't pick up as much moisture. Suppose that meant that less water precipitated out over the Rockies and less snow fell. And suppose that smaller amount of moisture didn't get augmented by picking up moisture from those same mountains. And just suppose that lead to less rain on the Great Plains.Now what do you suppose might happen?

I don't know why but this is what I thought of when I read your post:

Imagine there's no heavenIt's easy if you tryNo hell below usAbove us only skyImagine all the peopleLiving for today...

Imagine there's no countriesIt isn't hard to doNothing to kill or die forAnd no religion tooImagine all the peopleLiving life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamerBut I'm not the only oneI hope someday you'll join usAnd the world will be as one

Not one specifies CO2 as a contaminant.<quoted text>"Title: New Sorbents to Control CO2 and Multi-Contaminant Emissions"<quoted text>"... CO2 leaks drive contaminants up ..."The "contaminats" don't include CO2.<quoted text>No mention of "contaminant" in that article.<quoted text>CO2 "contaminates" mud.How serious is that?You "contaminate" by breathing, moving, touching and evacuating waste products.<quoted text>CO2 "contaminates" gas.If this is you point, everything on the planet can be classed as a contaminant if introduced into the wrong place, so be careful where you play, never forget the playground is next to the waste disposal unit.

Usually if something natural is a pollutant or contaminant, there is an unsafe level limit given, but it seems 350 was pulled out of a hat. Right now in offices and homes the CO2 level is usually 1000.

....... Gore isn’t the only one that has talked of global government, but that’s the one you brought up.Regarding the 100 bad things, like you said “predicted.” But it’s funny weird that everything that is predicted is end of the world stuff and nothing positive. The warming has come to a standstill, which was never “predicted” by the computer models. We are bombarded that extreme weather is increasing, but no one has shown any quantitative basis or scientific study to back it up. There has been no pattern of increased hurricanes, tornados, fires, droughts, etc. But every tragedy is celebrated as if global warming is the cause. Very strange.

I never brought that up, it was part of Glen Beck quote. As for the 100 bad things, what is it going to take, wait until New York is under water. Well hang on that's already happened as well. So as far as your concerned we don't do anything until we start to look like Mars. All the science has done is repeated the message beyond doubt that man is now influencing the world weather by continued emissions. That's no different than in the early days of civilisation science telling you not to flush your toilet into the river you drink from. Whether its medicine, quantum physics, or sending a space probe to a distant planet. No one argues against those achievements and you know why, because it doesn't concern YOU directly. Global warming does effect you directly and clinging to one positive message in a 100 negative is not going to change the outcome. Your life style has to change and that's the bottom line. So when it comes down to the real reason the science is not accepted by the denier crowd is purely based on protecting a lifestyle of the status quo. So every off beat theory gains statue without an ounce of credibility like those statements from Beck. Saying that God is punishing us with the weather for believing in global warming. It's God's Wrath for having those socialist ideas. Then the message of climate change is treated like the enemy at the gates.I mean there is no answer for this stupidity and it's NOT science nor is it having an open mind. It's a sign that there is no mind at all!

...and for many advocates of Global Warming mitigation... Opinions are Facts. Just ask one to answer the question: Is "Future Carbon Drivem Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Climate Disruption a "Fact"?

<quoted text>Actually, son, your crowd invents bad news! You 'celebrate' every natural disaster with a "see-see" attitude. YET.....you can't acknowledge the FACT that co2 mitigation has been shown to change one thing about the climate.Intellectual dishonesty is the worst kind of lie, son. Straighten up your act.

you can't acknowledge the FACT that co2 mitigation has been shown to change one thing about the climate.

Not one specifies CO2 as a contaminant.<quoted text>"Title: New Sorbents to Control CO2 and Multi-Contaminant Emissions"<quoted text>"... CO2 leaks drive contaminants up ..."The "contaminats" don't include CO2.<quoted text>No mention of "contaminant" in that article.<quoted text>CO2 "contaminates" mud.How serious is that?You "contaminate" by breathing, moving, touching and evacuating waste products.<quoted text>CO2 "contaminates" gas.If this is you point, everything on the planet can be classed as a contaminant if introduced into the wrong place, so be careful where you play, never forget the playground is next to the waste disposal unit.

<quoted text>I don't know why but this is what I thought of when I read your post:Imagine there's no heavenIt's easy if you tryNo hell below usAbove us only skyImagine all the peopleLiving for today...Imagine there's no countriesIt isn't hard to doNothing to kill or die forAnd no religion tooImagine all the peopleLiving life in peace...You may say I'm a dreamerBut I'm not the only oneI hope someday you'll join usAnd the world will be as one

I like the Beatles and all but... that song doesn't really address my scenario.

Can you think of another song that might? Or, alternatively, do you have a scientific response?

<quoted text>...and for many advocates of Global Warming mitigation... Opinions are Facts. Just ask one to answer the question: Is "Future Carbon Drivem Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Climate Disruption a "Fact"?

You generalize too much. Most rednecks of all stripes probably are too smart for him. And why would valley girls care?

What is his attraction? He makes NO sense. Cannot deal with the facts. Isn't even very entertaining. Some may find him funny, but they could turn to the Daily Show instead. THEY at least admit that they are out for laughs..

RF Rummel's lifetime immersion:After studying over 8,000 reports of government-caused deaths, he estimates that there have been 262 million victims of democide in the last century[7] and that six times as many people have died at the hands of people working for governments than have died in battle.

He argues that there is a relation between political power and democide. Political mass murder grows increasingly common as political power becomes unconstrained.//////////I'm talking massacres...... where gov't, having all the power, & exercise their power fully with no enemies with weapons who can oppose them. The massive genocides unleashed by Hitler & Stalin, not even counting enemies killed in equal or uneven combat, is listed as 40-50 million dead in mere decades. Of course, Mao Tze Tung's rivers of blood amounted to 100 million dead BROTHERS, SISTERS, CHILDREN & BABIES between the years 1949 to 1970.

Of course, you have read my posts of the unleashed & never headed democides by communists before. You knew what I said was true then. You know what I say is true now. Your post of startled surprise is only an act.

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