Is there any any any justification at all that something sentient and cognizant should be treated the way it has been above. Why can't the Muslims use their better judgement when dealing with slaughtering animals during their religious festivals. Why must a defenseless animal pay the price for the desire of a muslim to ascend to paradise.

Happy eid al adha to all muslims. Not so happy eid al adha to the sacrificial victims such as the poor dumb beast above.

(09-Aug-2012, 10:28 PM)stupidseeker Wrote: Is there any any any justification at all that something sentient and cognizant should be treated the way it has been above. Why can't the Muslims use their better judgement when dealing with slaughtering animals during their religious festivals

Questions about animal cruelty in the form of religiously sanctified procedures like shechita and dhabihah are discussed at length in this earlier thread Religion In The Abattoir. Besides the Semitic faiths insisting on persisting with pre-medieval modes of slaughter which clearly conflict with the current scientific understanding of animal sentience and nociception, supposedly benign Dharmic faiths do not cover themselves with glory either in this regard. Outside of the much-vaunted bovineexceptionalism, popular Hinduism is blood-spattered enough in its tacit endorsement of animal sacrifice such as the ones in Assam. Practising Buddhists too seem loath to make up its minds on their stance regarding animal rights and consumption choices informed by it, both in monastic circles in the modern era and even among their best-known spokespersons.

(09-Aug-2012, 10:28 PM)stupidseeker Wrote: Happy eid al adha to all muslims. Not so happy eid al adha to the sacrificial victims such as the poor dumb beast above.

Moreover, Eid Ul Zuha celebrates Ibrahim's( Abraham's) willingness to sacrifice Isma'il(Isaac,according to the Old Testament)- an inhuman act unworthy of emulation and an enduring legacy. It lionizes a father who ,unblinkingly and at the prompting of some voices he heard in his head, almost slit his son's throat.
The gory commemoration of the episode is a reminder that for orthodox Islam, Ibrahim's behavior is the gold standard when it comes to 'complete surrender'.

Is there any any any justification at all that something sentient and cognizant should be treated the way it has been above. Why can't the Muslims use their better judgement when dealing with slaughtering animals during their religious festivals. Why must a defenseless animal pay the price for the desire of a muslim to ascend to paradise.

Happy eid al adha to all muslims. Not so happy eid al adha to the sacrificial victims such as the poor dumb beast above.

How can there be any justification for such heinous acts?!. However as to why muslims are deliberately so cruel, all the abrahamic religions allow such actions. One has to understand the social mores, the values and ideals of those times when human life itself didn't have much value. Also killing animals was a survival imperative in the not so fertile lands of middle east where abrahamic religions originated.

The question is whether people commit such crimes because their religion asks/exhorts them to or they do it driven by their nature and only seek sanction in religion to clear the conscience

Is there any any any justification at all that something sentient and cognizant should be treated the way it has been above. Why can't the Muslims use their better judgement when dealing with slaughtering animals during their religious festivals. Why must a defenseless animal pay the price for the desire of a muslim to ascend to paradise.

Happy eid al adha to all muslims. Not so happy eid al adha to the sacrificial victims such as the poor dumb beast above.

Islamic religion is a religion born in a desert....so in order to please their almighty, the lambs were freely available and so they went on killing them

How can there be any justification for such heinous acts?!. However as to why muslims are deliberately so cruel, all the abrahamic religions allow such actions. One has to understand the social mores, the values and ideals of those times when human life itself didn't have much value. Also killing animals was a survival imperative in the not so fertile lands of middle east where abrahamic religions originated.

The question is whether people commit such crimes because their religion asks/exhorts them to or they do it driven by their nature and only seek sanction in religion to clear the conscience