I’m convinced now what he is doing to those of us in the military now is on purpose. There is no other rational explanation.

Repeal of DADT...allowing women into the infantry and armor branches and now allowing the “spouses” of gay couples to have ID cards and benefits.

Combine that with the looming 500 billion in cuts making us a hollow force reminiscent of the Carter years decreases in our benefits and a paltry 1% pay raise proposed for FY 2014.

This is...in my personal opinion...a purposeful attempt to break the morale and will of our armed forces.

This Administration and 99.9% of the Libtards today see the military as the execution tool of all the evil that America has spread around the world since we were founded. So just as America has to be taken down a notch...so too must her military. By whatever means necessary.

There is no other way to explain it.

And in the mean time all of our enemies are gearing up and improving their militaries. Why? Because they know we have been put in a position where we can’t oppose them.

Your acid rain reference makes me recall a story that illustrates the influence of school systems on the propaganda of the day. During the peak of the acid rain scares, my daughter was required to do a seventh grade science fair project. She choose to measure the acidity of rain, and then the runoff in rivers and lakes. We lived in an area deemed highly susceptible to acid rain. The supplies were simply a bowl, and some litmus paper strips.

She found that the rain was only very slightly acidic, while the rivers and streams were quite neutral. A little research led to the observation that the acidity was likely due to carbonic acid (from the now dreaded CO2) and that it was quickly neutralized by the soil. Since this finding was quite opposed to the propaganda being taught, I thought her results were quite significant.

I had recently acquired a brand new PC-XT with a full 10 meg hard drive with one 5-1/4 inch 360K floppy drive, and a pen plotter. We plotted her results on the plotter. She also made some plots for a friend who had looked up some information in an encyclopedia, for her "science project".

My daughter received a red ribbon - the lowest prize given, with no comments by the judges. Her friend got a blue ribbon, with comments about her great graphics. My daughter's problem, obviously, was that her data defied the propaganda being spewed by the school system. The last thing they needed was some stupid student presenting facts that disputed that.

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posted on 02/10/2013 6:50:43 AM PST
by norwaypinesavage
(Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)

But my question then to Panetta and Joint Chief Dempsey is: So what did YOU do? Why did you not send in help? Who gave order to stand down?

One question I have in that regard was prompted by what Dempsey said in the hearing--and I have yet to hear anyone in the MSM or elsewhere raise it.

Dempsey said that the Pentagon was looking at plenty of other problems that day--9/11--including in Cairo, as mobs rioted in front of our Embassy. When you look at the timeline of day's events, you see that Benghazi happened around 9 pm that evening well after the events in Cairo had occurred. So what was DOD doing in response to the events in Cairo before Benghazi? Did they move any of our forces closer to the region? Were they put on alert? After 9/11 there were demonstrations worldwide against the US, e.g, Tunisia, Yemen, Karachi, etc. but Dempsey tried to conflate those with the events of 9/11.

Its what they do. And what we have not learned to do. Political expertise, they have it we don't.

The bent axel,plouffe et. all, set up a scenario where the left got no budget cuts or sequestration.They never ever cut anything. Why would they? We are too easy a mark.

Under sequestration the commies have a list of six or eight key liberal causes where all the old people, children, or whomever will all die or suffer terribly if any of their funding is cut. Budget cuts(actually reductions in the increases) are miraculously always dire.They are never able to be worked out,never four day weeks instead of five. Just for grins they throw in military cuts as dire as well knowing our side hates cuts in the military.

The fact that huge budget deficits threatening the future of our kids or buying our own debt is never under consideration because once again we let them set the agenda...again.....is even more depressing.

You gotta wonder if we will ever learn.

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posted on 02/10/2013 7:09:42 AM PST
by rodguy911
(FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)

Combine that with the looming 500 billion in cuts making us a hollow force reminiscent of the Carter years decreases in our benefits and a paltry 1% pay raise proposed for FY 2014.

Sequestration was Obama's idea, but the Reps signed on to it. IMO neither party wants to make real spending cuts. They keep coming up with ideas to kick the can down the road. Both parties are holding DOD hostage, which was always the objective.

What I see coming out of this are some accounting gimmicks to forestall any real cuts and an agreement by the Reps playing the good cop to increase revenue by "closing loopholes" to protect DOD cuts. It will be portrayed as a matter of national security so that the Reps get a pass on agreeing to more taxes.

The sequestration bill excluded the entitlement programs and means tested welfare programs from any cuts meaning that any cuts to non-DOD discretionary funding would fall on all the agencies of government. Just as the military has done, we will have the Dems painting a doom and gloom picture of the impact of such cuts on children, the poor, health, etc. And the MSM is already awash with stories of how the implementation of sequestration will plunge us back into a recession.

So the spending will go on, taxes will continue to be increased whether thru tax rates, closing loopholes, the implementation of Obamacare etc. and so will the deficits. Projections are that we will raise more revenue in 2013--$2.7 trillion--than in any time in our history. And we will still run a $900 billion deficit.

Americans want all the benefits of the welfare state, but they don't want to pay for it. Eventually taxes will be raised on everyone in order to fund the welfare state. The Dems are setting the stage for it and after they regain the House in 2014, it will be a much different ball game. When Willie Sutton, the famed bank robber was asked why he robbed banks, he responded, "That's where the money is." Well, the middle class is the biggest bank of all and the Dems will tap it to keep the welfare state treading water. It will eventually fail, but not before defense is eviscerated (Guns versus Butter) and the government seizes most of the economy.

We understand that, the problem is Darwinists have used it to disprove God and promote communism. We are saying it is time to accept evolution is a fraud. Some great people came onto this thread to counter evolution:

What a wonderful way to raise a daughter! Taking on “science’ ( girls aren’t supposed to be good at that.ha).
And learning the lesson that you don’t just accept whatever they “teach”you. And learning that character and hard work and honesty is WAAAAAY more important than phony ribbons.

At one juncture he tried to portray Benghazi like a police op,a robbery at a 7-11 that was thousands of miles away (supposedly)and they simply could not respond to every 7-11 that gets knocked off. Especially, when they had no idea what was going on.(so many lies there you don't know where to begin)

When asked who was in charge of the op Panetta replied, "the forces on the ground." In other words Woods,Doherty and Smith who had all been told to stand down were actually in charge of the op but didn't know that no help was ever coming.Bizarre at best.

Supposedly, no one in dc was even engaged or even there watching events happen,no one calling into see if he needed a cappuccino or a bagel,or a back rub by Lindsay Graham,just Panetta. Once again stretching believability here.

Panetta also claimed that it would have taken 8 hours to respond instead of calling in F-16's in theater that could have been there in under two hours.

Panetta lied his ass off and then twisted the rest to make it sound somewhat feasible but told just enough truth to let us know that zero was MIA once again and he actually had no one to turn to and was obviously told to stand down.

Should anyone dare to get to the bottom of the Benghazi fiasco they will undoubtedly hear that it was a CIA op and they are not allowed to talk about it--the ultimate plausible deny-ability.

My thinking was either one of two scenarios could have happened:

1. Benghazi was a hit on Stevens by CIA or others since he had been gun smuggling all over the Mid- East and knew too much and had become:

a political liability.

2. A hostage taking so they could eventually trade Stevens for the blind sheik once again:

a political situation.

Let's hope we can keep Benghazi and the death of four warriors alive since the DBM are still trying to find Ben Ghazi's house on a map...

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posted on 02/10/2013 7:38:36 AM PST
by rodguy911
(FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)

The commercials, given the junk science (they really, really like GlobullWarming) TWC's been serving up by the cubic mile for the past ten years or so, may just be the high point of their broadcasting.

You'd get better weather guessing out of Farmer's Almanac, or just cut to the chase and use http://forecast.weather.gov

(You can dial that deal in to within fifty feet of your front door, if you don't worry too much about somebody selling the coordinates.)

when they played the clip of Eric Cantor and then followed with a Republican commenting at length....THE SOUND WENT OUT!!!( yeah, I checked the other channels, just during that segment, just on Stephy)..

Now Stephy says “ oh, yes, there’s been a lot of DISCOMFORT on the ground with the drone Strikes. Discomfort???ha.

on drones- asks Dick should we change the CIC’s ability to kill at will with drones. DIck says obama made it clear he would eliminate torture (lololol - kill em, don’t grill em). He won’t answer Gregory’s questioning about changing the policy. compliments obama for being “engaged” in providing the legal basis for drone attacks.

Menendez - should he retain his chairmanship? Mendendez has given Dick his assurance that he wasn’t involved with that stuff, other than that he can’t comment on it.

You are lucky we get FNS at 2:00pm Eastern.
How is the fund raising going!!
Is FR guys almost there for the quarter?
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Remember a dollar a day is hard to miss but slowly adds up for FR!!

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posted on 02/10/2013 7:46:51 AM PST
by rodguy911
(FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)

MTP Round Table
Gersen, WaPo, rightly points out what obama is proposing to Republicans - “Give up spending cuts for tax increaes.” No Republican is going to go for that.

Mike McCurry (? I think) If obama would be willing to deal with entitlement reform, Republicans would deal with him on everything else and ignore the rest of us, Brings up that obama is ruining the immigration deal when he gets involved. Refers to Rubio and Jeb Bush as “heroes” in the immigration debate. (lolol - yep, my kind of heroes)

Who is the black dude on MTP - using phrases like Republicans showed him the back of their hand. That guys is an idiot. Says obama has shown Boeher he is willing to deal with them (???) He has a huge chip on his shoulder.

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