Comments on: Zim’s plea to re-sign Dunnhttp://natsinsider.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn/
News, analysis and commentary from someone who has covered the Washington Nationals since Day 1Sun, 02 Aug 2015 22:22:37 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: Anonymoushttp://natsinsider.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn/comment-page-1/#comment-20756
Fri, 12 Nov 2010 14:19:33 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn#comment-20756This is a tough subject, I agree with Zim that having a dependable guy in the #4 hole makes sense, but at the same time with Marerro tearling up Winter ball, I wonder if signing Derek Lee or Adam LaRoche to a 2 year deal is not a bad idea and let Marerro get some playing time before 2013.
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Fri, 12 Nov 2010 01:53:24 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn#comment-20750Whst a great mix of delusional and insightful here today … srsly. Great stuff!
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Fri, 12 Nov 2010 01:45:01 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn#comment-20749politics…..keep fans happy and keep Zimm happy….believe me it is not going to happen….Rizzo is going to sign a second tier FA to a one year deal at first…..Defense first and any contact hitting next….Rizzo wants to win and that is how you win in the National league….pitching, defense, sound fundamentals…….that is Rizzo's plan
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Fri, 12 Nov 2010 00:41:23 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn#comment-20747JayB, if Rizzo doesn't want Dunn back, why did he say as recently as last night that re-signing Dunn is his first choice? Nothing to be gained by posturing about that now. It's too late to get anything back for Dunn in trade, so no need to be talking up Dunn's value for the benefit of other teams. And if they sign anyone else other than Dunn now it would just say to that player that he really wasn't Rizzo's first choice. So why would Rizzo say that Dunn is his first choice if that's not true?
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Thu, 11 Nov 2010 23:16:41 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn#comment-20744As I said back in August, Rizzo does not want Dunn back. His defense is that bad. Rizzo has better places to spend that kind of money over the next 4 years. Pitching is what wins, not HRs. Dunn is fun on a losing team, if Rizzo can put together a winner, nobody will miss Dunn except Zimm who seems to really like him personally. Dunn has always been on a losing team. Rizzo is right to turn the page on anything Jimbo did.
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Thu, 11 Nov 2010 22:47:57 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn#comment-20743I exaggerated on the league leaders in K's – Dunn was 2cnd at 199 and 7 players were within 40 of Dunn. My points still the same and I'm happy if he goes. (Now were's Joey Votto when we need him…)Natslifer
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Thu, 11 Nov 2010 22:37:21 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn#comment-20742Anon @ 11:39 – You're on the same page as me. Here's the way I look at it… Dunn had the worst year in his career this year for situational hitting (anyone remember when he was low .100's with RISP and .000 with RISP/2 outs after two months in the season???). He finished the year at .217/.169 with 199 K's (leading the league by about 40, right?). So with the same setup hitters, a hitter who hits .250/.250 (any hitter) without all the home runs could have the same 100 RBIs for us next year and not be the rally killer Dunn is the rest of the time.We'll all see what everyone else thinks of him after he signs a contract but I'll be happy not gritting my teeth while I watch him flailing at another strike 3.And he's no Ryan Howard… Howard really made his bones in '08 when he had 146 RBIs and hit .320 with RISP/.250 overall. That was a guy no one wanted to face when the pressure was on and who really made it happen when he needed to. Natslifer
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Thu, 11 Nov 2010 22:08:59 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn#comment-20740@ Alex – a fair point, but looking back at Pena's HR production, his career average looks to be more like ~25.So let's do the annoying Player A/B test:PLAYER A: OPS .732, but career has been more like .840 and last year was the first aberration. 28 HR, BB% of 14.9. Fielding .995, 6Es and UZR is -3.7 this season (although he was worse last season). WAR has dropped the past 4 years and was 1.0 last year (down from 6.2 four years ago) PLAYER B: OPS .842 although there are some hints it’s starting to slowly go downhill. 39HR, BB% of 11.9%, but career has been more like 16% and last year was the first aberration. Fielding .990, 13Es (career high) and UZR/150 is -3.3 this season. WAR was a disaster the last two years but is now 3.9.Yes, the HRs tip it off. And while UZR/150 isn’t a perfect metric, defensively they seem fairly comparable. SIGN ADAM DUNN. Pena’s more likely to have some kind of revert-to-form year (given Dunn’s form is what it is), but there are some hints he’s sliding, too.
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Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:40:09 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn#comment-20739Doesn't matter if you have a gold glove first baseman or not…the one thing that is holding the Nats back is starting pitching. Thats what wins and when that is notched up, it won't matter who is on first, they'll win. JTinSC
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Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:00:19 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn#comment-20736That's even better! Thanks, NatsJack.
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Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:27:12 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn#comment-20735natsfan 1a… I actually miscounted. There are 95 days till pitchers and catchers voluntarily report. The rest of the squad is a week or so later. The pitchers and catchers can report 2/13/11.
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Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:12:26 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn#comment-20734natsfan 1a…. and I meant "can report VOLUNTARILY, not involuntarily. That would be March 1, 2011.
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Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:03:13 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn#comment-20732Thanks, NatsJack. Let the countdown begin…
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Thu, 11 Nov 2010 19:52:27 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn#comment-20731I wanted Dunn re-signed too, but for all the chatter about his defense, anyone look at his numbers against lefties last year? A sub-.200 BA and a .720 OPS or so. That's the kind of foreshadowing of old skills that terrifies GMs.Now, I admit, that's what Pena hit against everyone last year, but Pena had very similar numbers to Adam before last year, plays better D, could be signed for less time (see what happens with Marrero, Tyler Moore, Adrian Gonzalez, etc.) and money (as long as it's reinvested in pitching).I'm starting to turn…
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Thu, 11 Nov 2010 19:31:06 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn#comment-20730Anon (2:20) – no argument, what I thought a little interesting/odd is that Zim is going to bat for him in the media and then he says this? At least, so says the guy that has unabashedly wanted Dunn resigned.
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Thu, 11 Nov 2010 19:24:10 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn#comment-20729natsfan 1a ….. I've goy 99 days till pitchers and catchers can report involuntarily.
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Thu, 11 Nov 2010 19:20:32 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn#comment-20728Wally – Hahaha, if Zimmerman's throw's were accurate enough to hit Dunn and leave a bruise, then those throws should be caught.
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Thu, 11 Nov 2010 19:11:28 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn#comment-20727Here is an interesting tweet from a Cincinnati sportswriter named John Fay (@johnfayman), responding to someone else about the National League Gold Glove awards. Maybe Adam is getting a little 'defensive' "No shock to me about Rolen over Zimmerman. Talked to Dunn about Zimmerman's throws. He had the bruises to show the inconsistency". about 19 hours ago via Twitterrific
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Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:10:51 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn#comment-20726anonymous 11:50 said: "He (Zimmerman)slings the ball sidearm now on almost every throw to first base." To which I would say, "Just like Cal Ripken, the Hall of Famer." There are no style points.
]]>By: natsfan1ahttp://natsinsider.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn/comment-page-1/#comment-20725
Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:10:01 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/zims-plea-to-re-sign-dunn#comment-20725I don't know what's on the table, nor can I read the minds of any of the parties involved in negotiations. Sure, it gets tiresome waiting but we'll see what happens when it happens. Until then, I'm not going to get spun up about it (I've got a few other things in line ahead of it in that regard; none of them Nats-related).On another note, I'm not partial to the between-innings entertainment either but it's what happens between the lines that keeps me (and will keep me) coming back. Just. Play. Ball. (What's the countdown to spring training, again?)
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