Many of you will have seen the hit that is being talked about in the media today. It does look as though it was a clean hit, and even some Bills players have come out and said so. One player out in Buffalo didn't like ith though. Eric Wood believes that the Browns players were deliberatley trying to injure their QB.http://www.bubblews.com/news/1268618-br ... yer-injury

That's BS. Go up high and he would've been flagged. You would QB's would learn from RG3.Slide or get out of bounds. On that play, Manuel had the 1st down and then some. He needed to just step out of bounds.

-The Glove- wrote:That's BS. Go up high and he would've been flagged. You would QB's would learn from RG3.Slide or get out of bounds. On that play, Manuel had the 1st down and then some. He needed to just step out of bounds.

DangeRuss should hold a QB running camp and invite the other 31 starting QBs in the league to it during this upcoming offseason. Nobody runs with a better (or even equal) combination of safety and effectiveness than our own beloved #3.

I thought Wood was mad at how the Browns acted after Manuel was hurt? Another story had Wood saying he was fine with the hit, it was the smack talk Ward was saying afterwards that had him call the Browns "classless".

The injury is on Manuel for trying to take just that extra little bit instead of stepping out of bounds after he got the first down by 3 yds.

After reading quotes from Wood I understand where he's coming from. He said TJ Ward yelled at Kiko (college teammates), "Hey Kiko, I told you we were gonna get him!" Now thats messed up. And also Tashaun Gilson, who made the tackle, celebrated after the hit. Looks odd since EJ got the 1st down and more.

RolandDeschain wrote:DangeRuss should hold a QB running camp and invite the other 31 starting QBs in the league to it during this upcoming offseason. Nobody runs with a better (or even equal) combination of safety and effectiveness than our own beloved #3.

I think Kapernick is the best runner of all QB's. + I think he's faster than RW.

RolandDeschain wrote:DangeRuss should hold a QB running camp and invite the other 31 starting QBs in the league to it during this upcoming offseason. Nobody runs with a better (or even equal) combination of safety and effectiveness than our own beloved #3.

I think Kapernick is the best runner of all QB's. + I think he's faster than RW.

He's faster in a straight line...barely...but we're talking about smart, effective running. He knows when to slide and when to go out of bounds. He never takes unnecessary huge hits. Plus he's a much better scrambler then Kaep.

RolandDeschain wrote:DangeRuss should hold a QB running camp and invite the other 31 starting QBs in the league to it during this upcoming offseason. Nobody runs with a better (or even equal) combination of safety and effectiveness than our own beloved #3.

I think Kapernick is the best runner of all QB's. + I think he's faster than RW.

He's faster in a straight line...barely...but we're talking about smart, effective running. He knows when to slide and when to go out of bounds. He never takes unnecessary huge hits. Plus he's a much better scrambler then Kaep.

Engaged in a similar argument with a 9er bud, I went back and looked at a bunch of film on Kaep. My bro was correct. I was amazed at how infrequently Kaep actually gets hit. Disappointed, as well.

He is not the cerebral scrambler RW is, but his longer legs allows him to cover much more ground, obviously in a shorter space of time. BUT...those same long legs make him much more vulnerable. Just because he's been the Floyd Mayweather of QBs (thus far), doesn't mean that trend will last forever. Especially with desperation already setting in. ; )

RolandDeschain wrote:DangeRuss should hold a QB running camp and invite the other 31 starting QBs in the league to it during this upcoming offseason. Nobody runs with a better (or even equal) combination of safety and effectiveness than our own beloved #3.

I think Kapernick is the best runner of all QB's. + I think he's faster than RW.

He's faster in a straight line...barely...but we're talking about smart, effective running. He knows when to slide and when to go out of bounds. He never takes unnecessary huge hits. Plus he's a much better scrambler then Kaep.

Are they racing? RW is a better scrambler. The Benny Hill play against the Niners last year was proof and the Texans game was proof. No other QB can evade pressure like that. And yes that has a lot to do with his size.

HawkWow wrote:Engaged in a similar argument with a 9er bud, I went back and looked at a bunch of film on Kaep. My bro was correct. I was amazed at how infrequently Kaep actually gets hit. Disappointed, as well.

He is not the cerebral scrambler RW is, but his longer legs allows him to cover much more ground, obviously in a shorter space of time. BUT...those same long legs make him much more vulnerable. Just because he's been the Floyd Mayweather of QBs (thus far), doesn't mean that trend will last forever. Especially with desperation already setting in. ; )

Kap is faster than most LBs/DE's.

Thats why he ran for almost 200 yards in Playoffs against the Packers. But I believe the Packers realize that he runs by the left and right sideline, so in the first 49ers game he only rushed for 30 yards. And thats where Boldin and VD beat the Pack.

HawkWow wrote:Engaged in a similar argument with a 9er bud, I went back and looked at a bunch of film on Kaep. My bro was correct. I was amazed at how infrequently Kaep actually gets hit. Disappointed, as well.

He is not the cerebral scrambler RW is, but his longer legs allows him to cover much more ground, obviously in a shorter space of time. BUT...those same long legs make him much more vulnerable. Just because he's been the Floyd Mayweather of QBs (thus far), doesn't mean that trend will last forever. Especially with desperation already setting in. ; )

Kap is faster than most LBs/DE's.

Thats why he ran for almost 200 yards in Playoffs against the Packers. But I believe the Packers realize that he runs by the left and right sideline, so in the first 49ers game he only rushed for 30 yards. And thats where Boldin and VD beat the Pack.

I think you need a S with a 4.2 or 4.3 that can chase after him.

But that was against the Pack. Not knocking the Packers, they are a real good team, but like we have yours, your 9ers have the Packers number. Other than GB and Atl, you've really not beat anyone else of note in quite some time. And I am one that believes the reason is in your own words, if Kaep isn't rushing for huge yards, you guys are going to have difficulty beating good defenses with him @ QB. This weekend will be the best team you've faced this year not named Seattle. Huge test for your team (as you know).

HawkWow wrote:Engaged in a similar argument with a 9er bud, I went back and looked at a bunch of film on Kaep. My bro was correct. I was amazed at how infrequently Kaep actually gets hit. Disappointed, as well.

He is not the cerebral scrambler RW is, but his longer legs allows him to cover much more ground, obviously in a shorter space of time. BUT...those same long legs make him much more vulnerable. Just because he's been the Floyd Mayweather of QBs (thus far), doesn't mean that trend will last forever. Especially with desperation already setting in. ; )

Both can win games and both can take games over. With Wilson you have to be afraid of the length of the play and breakdowns while he constantly looks down field, with Kaep you have to respect his speed as a runner and his cannon of an arm when he has a man open.

I love both QBs and would be fine with either of them in Seattle although I feel Kaep is 2 years or so from being a top 3 QB where Wilson should finish a steady 6-9 his whole career and that's i great for our offensive style.

Kaep resembles Vick in so many ways (Arm, Speed, Game Changer) But it took Vick years to develope to the point he was when he had that major year in Philly. Wilson will be the steady Eddy with upside. Think Dilfer but with Talent and speed.

Wilson will win more games and possibly Championships, but they should both have fine careers if they work on Progression <Kaep> and scrambling more when it is open <Wilson>

Back to the OP, I think the hit looked fine, but the trash talking after the play calls into question the purpose of the hit.

HawkWow wrote:Engaged in a similar argument with a 9er bud, I went back and looked at a bunch of film on Kaep. My bro was correct. I was amazed at how infrequently Kaep actually gets hit. Disappointed, as well.

He is not the cerebral scrambler RW is, but his longer legs allows him to cover much more ground, obviously in a shorter space of time. BUT...those same long legs make him much more vulnerable. Just because he's been the Floyd Mayweather of QBs (thus far), doesn't mean that trend will last forever. Especially with desperation already setting in. ; )

Kap is faster than most LBs/DE's.

Thats why he ran for almost 200 yards in Playoffs against the Packers. But I believe the Packers realize that he runs by the left and right sideline, so in the first 49ers game he only rushed for 30 yards. And thats where Boldin and VD beat the Pack.

I think you need a S with a 4.2 or 4.3 that can chase after him.

But that was against the Pack. Not knocking the Packers, they are a real good team, but like we have yours, your 9ers have the Packers number. Other than GB and Atl, you've really not beat anyone else of note in quite some time. And I am one that believes the reason is in your own words, if Kaep isn't rushing for huge yards, you guys are going to have difficulty beating good defenses with him @ QB. This weekend will be the best team you've faced this year not named Seattle. Huge test for your team (as you know).

BTW, if I were Eric Wood, I'd change my first name to Epic. Why not?

You 49er fans forgot about the win against bears 32-7 and the NO game 31-21

HawkWow wrote:Engaged in a similar argument with a 9er bud, I went back and looked at a bunch of film on Kaep. My bro was correct. I was amazed at how infrequently Kaep actually gets hit. Disappointed, as well.

He is not the cerebral scrambler RW is, but his longer legs allows him to cover much more ground, obviously in a shorter space of time. BUT...those same long legs make him much more vulnerable. Just because he's been the Floyd Mayweather of QBs (thus far), doesn't mean that trend will last forever. Especially with desperation already setting in. ; )

Did you look at ability to throw when scrambling? That is where RW wins the matchup. Kaep is as good or better than RW at avoiding hits but ugly throws while moving

HawkWow wrote:Engaged in a similar argument with a 9er bud, I went back and looked at a bunch of film on Kaep. My bro was correct. I was amazed at how infrequently Kaep actually gets hit. Disappointed, as well.

He is not the cerebral scrambler RW is, but his longer legs allows him to cover much more ground, obviously in a shorter space of time. BUT...those same long legs make him much more vulnerable. Just because he's been the Floyd Mayweather of QBs (thus far), doesn't mean that trend will last forever. Especially with desperation already setting in. ; )

Did you look at ability to throw when scrambling? That is where RW wins the matchup. Kaep is as good or better than RW at avoiding hits but ugly throws while moving

No question. I am more comparing the two as RBs than QBs (in this context). There is no comparison between the two when throwing the rock. Either from the pocket, or outside the pocket. Kaep, IMO, is not yet an NFL caliber QB. RW is top 10.

HawkWow wrote:Engaged in a similar argument with a 9er bud, I went back and looked at a bunch of film on Kaep. My bro was correct. I was amazed at how infrequently Kaep actually gets hit. Disappointed, as well.

He is not the cerebral scrambler RW is, but his longer legs allows him to cover much more ground, obviously in a shorter space of time. BUT...those same long legs make him much more vulnerable. Just because he's been the Floyd Mayweather of QBs (thus far), doesn't mean that trend will last forever. Especially with desperation already setting in. ; )

Kap is faster than most LBs/DE's.

Thats why he ran for almost 200 yards in Playoffs against the Packers. But I believe the Packers realize that he runs by the left and right sideline, so in the first 49ers game he only rushed for 30 yards. And thats where Boldin and VD beat the Pack.

I think you need a S with a 4.2 or 4.3 that can chase after him.

But that was against the Pack. Not knocking the Packers, they are a real good team, but like we have yours, your 9ers have the Packers number. Other than GB and Atl, you've really not beat anyone else of note in quite some time. And I am one that believes the reason is in your own words, if Kaep isn't rushing for huge yards, you guys are going to have difficulty beating good defenses with him @ QB. This weekend will be the best team you've faced this year not named Seattle. Huge test for your team (as you know).

BTW, if I were Eric Wood, I'd change my first name to Epic. Why not?

You 49er fans forgot about the win against bears 32-7 and the NO game 31-21

What "49er fans" would you be referring to with this post? I stuck up for Kaep's ability to escape the big hit, that sure as hell don't make me a fan. I am a fan of the 9ers, and Kaep, the same as I am a fan of the Cowboys and Romo. I am giddy with both team's chosen QBs. Giddy.