You don't care that people discriminate against trans* people? Why not? Do you think it's acceptable to do so? Do you endorse it? Do you do it yourself? If so, why? Is it worth going out of your way to specifically treat a group of people as less than? You don't have to care that discrimination happens. That's fine. But are you seriously reinforcing bigotry? If you think trans* people deserve to be judged...why? I'm asking because I seriously can't tell what you believe from your screechy response.

No, I don't really care that people discriminate against transsexuals because it's none of my business, and yes, I do discriminate against them because transsexuals are crazy. If you think you're a man in a woman's body (or vice-versa), you have a mental disorder in the same way that a schizophrenic does (except schizophrenics are less likely to be social justice warriors).

I don't really care if a tranny wants to do the hormone regiment and surgical treatment plan. Go right ahead. But don't try to police my thoughts with the feminist bullshit. Don't tell me that:

• Gender don't real, gender is a social construct, men and women are the same, the Patriarchy, we need gender neutral pronouns, etc.

• I have to have sex with a tranny or else I'm a terrible person.

• Transsexuality is normal (it's not, deal with it).

• The government should pay for sexual reassignment surgery (ironically abbreviated SRS).

I agree with everything you said except for that transgender people (to use a more overarching term) are crazy. Maybe they are, but if they are, they are no more crazy than gay people. I frankly think crazy is the wrong word. Maybe different from you is a better phrase. I'm not going to ask you to check your privilege because that's a retarded and pointless thing to say, but I do think you should realize that it's perfectly physiologically and socially feasible for men to identify as women and vice versa. If they manage to live healthy lives, why discriminate against them? Lots of them do have psychological problems but not all do. I ask you to be a kind human being and judge people only when they negatively affect your own life with their actions. If trans* people bug you, please do not assume that all trans* people are douchebags. The only reason I bring this up in this forum is because I want to make clear the distinction between srs being unreasonable hypocrites (for many of the reasons you touch upon in your defensive post) and srs saying they want equal treatment for trans* individuals. What is a mental disorder anyway? Is germophobia a mental disorder? Being trans* is certainly a condition, but do we need to treat it, or the problems often associated with it? Is it necessary to eradicate it, or just the problems often associated with it? Is sexual reassignment surgery a treatment for it? FYI, gender dysphoria is a recognized psychological disorder and trans* people recognize that (but not all have it).

Anyone who cuts up their genitals and takes hormones in an attempt to transform their bodies into something more closely resembling the opposite sex is crazier than gay people. Also, as it turns out, transsexuals are usually crazy in other ways too.

"Mentally ill" works too. And I think the word "discriminate" gets treated like it is only a bad thing and there's never a place for it, and that's just not true. For example, I would not hire a transsexual babysitter. That is discrimination for reasons that I think are justified: I wouldn't want to expose a young child to such complicated sexual matters, regardless of the effects of any mentally ill behaviors that might take place.

Your comment makes a lot of sense and I agree with it. My problem is with people who assume that all trans* people are mentally ill in ways other than their gender identity, who feel the need to treat these people differently simply because they're trans*. You can have preferences about who watches your kids out the wazoo, but IMO people shouldn't treat groups of people as lesser-than based on attributes that person has that do not affect anyone but themselves. I don't think My LIttle Pony is enjoyable, but I don't think that adults who watch it are immoral/bad people. If I were interacting with them, I would treat them like any other human being. If they asked me what I thought about adults watching My LIttle Pony, I would say that it makes no sense to me and that I do not see the appeal. If the people show signs of immaturity or whatever else, I'll use those signs to form my opinion of the person, not the mere fact that they watch a certain show.

Here's a question regarding the scenario you described. What if the transsexual person you were interviewing to be your babysitter were undetectably transsexual, i.e., they "passed" as the sex they identified as, and the only reason you knew they were transsexual was because they told you? Would you still prevent them from being your babysitter, granted that they seemed fit in all other ways? What about if you didn't know the person was transsexual, hired them, and then found out later? Would you be upset at them for not telling you, even though they were a fine babysitter functionally?

If I found out after, I would fire them immediately, because it would be a deception. I might not ask them specifically, but I would ask enough questions that they would know that I would want to know. If they were very upfront about it, it would not be a guaranteed dealbreaker, but it would a giant red flag. 99% dealbreaker.