Why do we have to use fallacies to make a point? Explaining why it's wrong leads to better discussions and promotes fact checking. I was going to agree with you to not even bother watching the video because of that comment I copy pasted in this thread, but it's actually a good TED talk by Bill Gates, so there is no harm in watching it if you don't overreact and put words in people's mouths. It's actually educational.

But yes, the guy anyone has to be crazy to believe Bill Gates was talking about killing off people. >.>

I mean, even if some secret Illuminati group were planning this, why would they talk about it in public. That literally makes no sense.

Nobody was debating BekkenSlain, vvkftw was mocking them. Personally, I don't bother trying to engage conspiracy nuts in meaningful dialog anymore as they aren't looking for a serious discussion and are not open to reason. They're simply looking for a soap-box to stand atop and spew their particular brand of nonsense. Trying to debate them serves only to validate their stance in their minds, and to lend credence to their ideas.

You can literally say the same thing about anyone / anything else. Debating improves knowledge. There is no topic I won't debate. If they want to say it's lends credence to their side, that's on them. I debate people for myself, not necessarily to help other people that don't want to be helped. If you pick and choose which topics are "too stupid" then it's kind of like throwing out the baby with the bathwater. I'm sure religious people say the same thing about other religions and atheism. That kind of ideology I do not want to live my life by.

Nobody was debating BekkenSlain, vvkftw was mocking them.

Nobody said he was debating him. Debate or not, it's still a genetic fallacy when he says to not bother watching.

There is a direct link between amount of education/healthcare/disease/poverty etc. and birth rate. If we can get these numbers down the birth rate almost certainly will go down(which is a good thing, it's not some genocide it's making sure you can actually feed people). Don't spout bullshit. Don't post bullshit. And fuck off.

Stop with the conspiracy theories people, Gates isn't a cartoon villain. He doesn't mean killing off people with vaccines, he means increasing the survival rate of small children so that families in poor countries won't have to get 5-8 children just to ensure some of them survive into adulthood. That would effectively reduce the population growth and over time, when people die of natural causes, the population would decline as there would be fewer people to replace them. And it would stabilize at a lower number than 10 billion or higher as most seem to think.

Overpopulation is not a good thing, every time we pass 1 billion we seem to celebrate, it's a problem that should be handled before it becomes worse. And this is the way to do it, lowering the birth rate, not killing off as most of the paranoids in here seem to think.﻿