Actually if I recall, it was due to a split that occured in heaven between people who wanted to follow God and people that were persuaded by Satan. They were marked with dark skin to show that they had decided to follow Satan instead of God.

pretty racist statement. How did the modern blacks get their dark skin then?

Actually if I recall, it was due to a split that occured in heaven between people who wanted to follow God and people that were persuaded by Satan. They were marked with dark skin to show that they had decided to follow Satan instead of God.

Ginobli is White. Him Oberto and Gassol could have gotten fresh off the boat with Columbus.

Mormon. Samoans and Hispanics are not considered black. The LDS Church spends WAY more money in Africa than it takes in.

I never said they were. No need for name calling. There was no Mormon presence (or an incredibly small one) prior to the "revelation". Now its the largest growing (and close to the largest church) in both Am. Samoa and Independent Samoa. Coincidence? probably...

On a totally unrelated note, hav eyou ever been to Navoo? Kinda neat despite the incredible bias in historical presentation.

Example 1: 2 Nephi 5: 21- 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

Example 2: Alma 3: 6- 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'

I never said they were. No need for name calling. There was no Mormon presence (or an incredibly small one) prior to the "revelation". Now its the largest growing (and close to the largest church) in both Am. Samoa and Independent Samoa. Coincidence? probably...

On a totally unrelated note, hav eyou ever been to Navoo? Kinda neat despite the incredible bias in historical presentation.

Once again, you are incorrect. The Mormon presence in South America and Samoa has been large for the last 50 or so years.

This statement is so inaccurate that I will not even post a rebuttal. Whoever wrote this is needs to grow a second brain cell and check their source.

its true. they where special undergarments to remind them of their commitment to christ.

"And he had caused the cursing to come upon [the Lamanites], yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, and they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them." (2 Nephi 5:21)."

This proves a point. My point is not that Utah is more racist then anywhere else in America. My point is sheer numbers determine the liklihood of an event occuring. Utahs prison has a huge Aryan Nation sect. The difference between Utah and California is that they vastly outnumber the Black Men in prison in Utah. Aryan members in Utah are much more likely to kill a Black Man in Utah then in California. Because they are more racist then the California sect? No. Because they have a huge numbers advantage and do not have to worry about a full scale riot and answering to what they have done.

For the poster who stated it is rhetoric to state that a 99% white crowd is more likely to throw a racial slur then a 75% one no it is not. It is pure fact. Ever heard when the Cat is away the mice will play.

I am stating that I believe Stephen Jackson. The laws of numbers prevail. It only takes one man. One man is much more likely in a 99% white crowd to throw a slur simply because of the law of numbers. Do you think if he was sitting between a Black family he would have said it. No. The only thing that changed was the demographics.

thats f'ed up. arguing over religion is more retarded than the special olympics

dude i feel sorry for them. they are forced to beleive a certain thing and if they do anything against the church they face social alienation. they have to wear special underwear and are pretty much brainwashed from the time they enter the church.

they go through all sorts of training and classes and watch propaganda videos.