1st Gratz nice numbers for NCIS ,
but also watched a new show last night
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Saw The New Normal, had caught a commercial that they had Matt Bomer as a guest so caught some of the earlier episodes on Tuesday during the day , loved the show , loved the guest spot for Matt Bomer , will watch the show now on a regular basis ,

Are you not aware that Go On has had NBC’s highest rated show for a lead-in all season?

Justin121

ABC repeats beat ABC originals.

Mayans

@ WOWZA, popular suggest more amount of attention. Considering Go On has been picked up by Comedy Central and had more viewers yesterday should indicate that Go On is more popular no?

iggy agrimotor

NBC & ABC were dumb to challenge New Girl / Mindy.

Go On has been picked up by Comedy Central
…in the Netherlands, not the U.S. Besides, CC in the U.S. airs the unpopular 30 Rock.

Charlie

Please, could somebody explain me why is Vegas on the verge of cancellation when it has an audience of 10 million? Plus it wins all its competition. Am I missing something?

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Changing topic, I think TNN is suffering from a very bad schedule and a mediocre writing. First: The New Normal is supposed to be a family comedy aimed at a youth target. How come it airs at 9:30pm? It’s too late and it goes against many other comedies that started a year or two ago and have steady audiences already. Makes no sense at all. NBC needs to move it to a better slot. And Second: Ryan Murphy needs to leave the political debates for CNN and FOX and turn TNN into an actual comedy. There are too many plots based on “being gay is difficult”. Look at Modern Family: they don’t talk why they’re modern, they just make jokes. That’s what TNN should do too. Bartha looks funnier in National Treasure. This says it all. I love the show but it needs to be a comedy, not a LGTB rights documentary.

Nicole

Parenthoods been kicking ass this season.. season 5 should be a no brainer. And i hope they give it the episode count it deserves.. 20 to 23 episodes for this show would be perfect. Parenthood is a great show.

Kitsune

Vegas gets 1.6 in the demo on a channel where everything else pulls high 2s and low 3s.

Timing has little to do with a show’s success. Airing at 9:30, airing at 8, it doesn’t matter.

The only comedy TNN goes against that’s not new this season is Apartment 23, which as great a show as it is, is totally irreelevant.

Holly

@Charlie,

Please, could somebody explain me why is Vegas on the verge of cancellation when it has an audience of 10 million? Plus it wins all its competition. Am I missing something?

Total viewers don’t mean much of anything because the network doesn’t get paid that way. Advertising rates for primetime broadcast are primarily set based on the 18-49 demographic. So the important number for predicting renewal is the 1.6 rating for the demo. That’s CBS’s lowest rated show aside from Fridays, which makes it a very, very likely candidate for cancellation.

PETE5125

With Go On and The New Normal, their ratings problem had a little bit to do with, NBC they took it away from its Tuesday home for a month in a half and aired it on Friday night, like it or not that is thought of as the TV graveyard, they sent Chuck their to die, also while they did advertise Bob Costas, coming to Go On, I admit I was surprised to see it as a new show on my Tivo

CenterGravity

@John “Lmao at all the old hags tuning into NCIS”

Don’t forget about the nearly 5,000,000 people under the age of 50.

fakeem

Kitsune
Posted January 10, 2013 at 6:39 AM

Timing has little to do with a show’s success. Airing at 9:30, airing at 8, it doesn’t matter.

Well, TBBT had aired in 3 different time slots on Mondays during it’s first 4 seasons, yet got it highest ratings on Thursdays, so I think timing has a lot to do with a show’s success.

Brian

Is the reason that New Girl’s numbers are down have something to do with Happy Endings being in the same time slot? Or is there something else that I’m missing here?

Charlie

@Kitsune and @Kitsune, thank you for the explanation. I knew the demos were important, but I thought the massive audience (in number of people) would make up for it. Now I understand it better. Thanks again!

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Regarding TNN: I believe, like some other have pointed out, that it makes no sense to have so many comedy blocks on Tuesday (ABC, NBC and FOX). It’s a suicide for all their shows, whether they are new or not. Go On, TNN and Parenthood don’t even seem to be targeted to the same kind of audience, so I guess NBC will learn the lesson and shuffle their schedule next Fall for the better. Other than that, I have no doubt that both Go On and TNN will be renewed. TNN has just won People’s Choice Award. It’s not a Golden Globe, but still, it’s going to be “easier” and maybe even cheaper for NBC to trust these series for a second round rather than canceling them and ordering new ones.

Billy Smith

So if Vegas has over 10 million viewers why will it get cancelled? Just wondering? I don’t get the ratings meaning I guess.

Thanks Holly I think I understand it now. If I get it correctly it doesn’t matter what anyone over 49 thinks or watches because they are easy to reach since they watch more TV than younger people. And since Vegas is at a 1.6 (18-49)and the CBS average is 3.3 (18-49) then any show below the 3.3 will probably be canceled no matter how many total viewers it has (50 or older). Each network has its own average and thus a program on one network may continue even though it has less total viewers but its closer to its own networks average. Its a business I know but it seems anyone that is older than 49 just doesn’t matter in the TV/Commercial world.

Holly

@Billy,

CBS average is 3.3 (18-49) then any show below the 3.3 will probably be canceled

While the basic gist of your comment is true, this bit isn’t. Networks don’t cancel all their shows below their average. CBS generally makes room for 3-4 dramas and 1-2 comedies, so only the lowest rated shows get the ax. There are also other factors like 10 pm shows have a lower standard than 9 pm shows (that doesn’t help Vegas since it’s the lowest rated 10 pm show anyway) as do Friday shows. Shows with or nearing syndication deals can also survive with lower ratings because of the additional source of revenue.

Billy Smith

From the link you provided I read the following,(Shows that perform way below average are cancelled or not renewed) I may not have stated it exactly right but you can maybe see my reasoning:

How do networks decide which shows to cancel and which shows to keep? Networks always sabotage the shows I like and wind up cancelling them. Why do they cancel good television in order to put on more reality crap!?!?

Bill Gorman developed a relatively simple and straightforward measure for determining the likelihood of a show being renewed or canceled, and while there are definitely some exceptions, thus far it has been highly accurate and a very good tool for predicting. How does it work? Generally speaking, it’s pretty straightforward:
?For each network we look at overall prime-time season-to-date averages among 18-49 year old viewers
?We then look at the season-to-date average among 18-49 year old viewers for the particular shows and compare them to the network’s average
?Shows that perform way above average are kept
?Shows that perform way below average are cancelled or not renewed
?Shows that are average are kept
?Shows that are a bit less than average but not way less than average are the interesting “on the bubble” shows. Some are kept, some are cancelled. It could go either way! It’s those shows that are a bit less than average that are the hardest to predict and seem to wind up drawing the most attention

Bianca

I really hope MIndy is reviewed! it has such great potential! i wish more people would watch!