Re: New Montale Intense Cafe

I heard that Pierre Montale is the consultant for Mancera. The perfumer for this house is also named Pierre - Pierre Mancera. I've smelled 2 fragrances from Mancera and both of them smells very similar to Montale's creations. Rose Vanille smells like Montale's Roses Musk with a lot of vanilla added in. The Aoud smells like a million of aoud fragrances from Montale

Re: New Montale Intense Cafe

Originally Posted by jasonx

I heard that Pierre Montale is the consultant for Mancera. The perfumer for this house is also named Pierre - Pierre Mancera. I've smelled 2 fragrances from Mancera and both of them smells very similar to Montale's creations. Rose Vanille smells like Montale's Roses Musk with a lot of vanilla added in. The Aoud smells like a million of aoud fragrances from Montale

There is no Pierre Montale...he is a made up marketing ploy. Montales are made by some guy in a back room in The United Arab Emirates. There was a thread about it a year or two ago...

Re: New Montale Intense Cafe

Originally Posted by Granola

I will be getting the Mancera. I have had a good success ratio with their fragrances.

When I was in Venice a few months ago I dropped in a nice little perfume shop and picked up a bottle of Montale and was given 3 samples with it. One was Montale Aoud Lime (love it) and the other 2 were Mancera samples- Wave Musk (decent but just not for me) and Gold Intensive Aoud (like this one). The latter has the Montale Aoud DNA for sure and when I sent Mancera an email asking about purchasing in the states their reply was-

"Actually we are not distributed in the US market, we are in discussion with a local distributor and I hope to finalize the distribution very soon.

We work with Selfridges in London and they have the on line sales, maybe you can order from there."

Re: New Montale Intense Cafe

Originally Posted by mikesc

When I was in Venice a few months ago I dropped in a nice little perfume shop and picked up a bottle of Montale and was given 3 samples with it. One was Montale Aoud Lime (love it) and the other 2 were Mancera samples- Wave Musk (decent but just not for me) and Gold Intensive Aoud (like this one). The latter has the Montale Aoud DNA for sure and when I sent Mancera an email asking about purchasing in the states their reply was-

"Actually we are not distributed in the US market, we are in discussion with a local distributor and I hope to finalize the distribution very soon.

We work with Selfridges in London and they have the on line sales, maybe you can order from there."

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There was a HUGE thread about 6 months ago about Pierre. There is a Pierre in the Paris shoppe, NOT Montale though. THere really is no Pierre Montale that I could ever find. I used to be friends with his perfumer Ammar Atmeh from UAE on Facebook, who supposedly was the Nose of the company. Do a search for "Pierre Montale" on Basenotes...it is a Mystery. The guy is made up. No interviews, no photos...I think I remember Grant said he had a pic. of him somewhere...but not verified that it was THE Pierre Montale

Re: New Montale Intense Cafe

More info:

Montale is also launching two new fragrances of which one is dedicated to coffee and skillfully combined with floral notes, amber, vanilla and white musk. Of course, the main role in this composition is played by coffee! Its name is Intense Cafe. Another novelty from Montale is Aoud Greedy that opens with a pleasant blend of lemon and black licorice. The heart of the composition blends floral notes and amber, while the base rests on vetiver, edible notes and sensual white musk.

Re: New Montale Intense Cafe

Originally Posted by Danielstripedtiger

There was a HUGE thread about 6 months ago about Pierre. There is a Pierre in the Paris shoppe, NOT Montale though. THere really is no Pierre Montale that I could ever find. I used to be friends with his perfumer Ammar Atmeh from UAE on Facebook, who supposedly was the Nose of the company. Do a search for "Pierre Montale" on Basenotes...it is a Mystery. The guy is made up. No interviews, no photos...I think I remember Grant said he had a pic. of him somewhere...but not verified that it was THE Pierre Montale

Whether or not Pierre Montale was named 'Pierre Montale' at birth is one thing. But the man shown in the photo below is definitely the Pierrre that I have personally spoken to on a couple of occasions, and have seen him on at least half of my double figure visits to the old Montale boutique. I have no doubt that he's in charge of operations in Paris (if nothing else).

Re: New Montale Intense Cafe

Originally Posted by Trebor

Whether or not Pierre Montale was named 'Pierre Montale' at birth is one thing. But the man shown in the photo below is definitely the Pierrre that I have personally spoken to on a couple of occasions, and have seen him on at least half of my double figure visits to the old Montale boutique. I have no doubt that he's in charge of operations in Paris (if nothing else).

Yea, I'm pretty sure he is the Manager of the old Montale boutique in Place Vendome Paris...Not sure if he is still there since they moved locations- took them all spring and summer to move... People had orders in, paid their money, and Poof...no website, no phone number...stuff on back order without explanation. When you called their number, it was given to a lingerie shoppe with no forwarding phone number. They quit selling online, lots of rumors about never reopening, but they did. There are alot of guys in Paris named "Pierre" so to find one working in a Montale shoppe isn't unusual. Ammar_Montale.jpg This is Ammar Atmeh OWNER AND FOUNDER of Montale Paris "Pierre Montale" is a trademark like "Pink Floyd" There never was a guy named floyd in the rock group.

Re: New Montale Intense Cafe

Originally Posted by Danielstripedtiger

Yea, I'm pretty sure he is the Manager of the old Montale boutique in Place Vendome Paris...Not sure if he is still there since they moved locations- took them all spring and summer to move... People had orders in, paid their money, and Poof...no website, no phone number...stuff on back order without explanation. When you called their number, it was given to a lingerie shoppe with no forwarding phone number. They quit selling online, lots of rumors about never reopening, but they did. There are alot of guys in Paris named "Pierre" so to find one working in a Montale shoppe isn't unusual. Ammar_Montale.jpg This is Ammar Atmeh OWNER AND FOUNDER of Montale Paris "Pierre Montale" is a trademark like "Pink Floyd" There never was a guy named floyd in the rock group.

That's old news, I'm afraid. The inactive link, further down in the following thread, was were BNs (including myself) discussed this before it was deleted.

Re: New Montale Intense Cafe

Originally Posted by HDDP

More info:

Montale is also launching two new fragrances of which one is dedicated to coffee and skillfully combined with floral notes, amber, vanilla and white musk. Of course, the main role in this composition is played by coffee! Its name is Intense Cafe. Another novelty from Montale is Aoud Greedy that opens with a pleasant blend of lemon and black licorice. The heart of the composition blends floral notes and amber, while the base rests on vetiver, edible notes and sensual white musk.