Don't stop talking, and you are right, if you are single without kids you are penalized. Many years ago, before kids, my husband was laid off, we didn't want to but went to ask about food stamps. We were told we qualified for so little food stamps, basically enough to eat popcorn and white bread, I told them to shove it up their azzes. We were penalized because we had no kids. Don't we already in this country have medicaid, and in Cal it is called Medi Cal. Is that not like socialized medicine?

You asked for it NRCG

OK, here's my story...I got pregnant with my son, I wasn't married and didn't have maternity insurance...dumb move and my burdon to bear I know. I was 30 not 15, I should have known better. So, what's your point, you ask? My point is this, I worked my butt off for everything I have. When I went to get help with the $16,000+ medical bill (I didn't want it paid for, I just wanted them to evaluate it as "reasonable & customary" like the insurance companies do) , social services told me that I should have quit working when I found out I was pregnant and the government would have paid for all of it. So, in a nut shell, I worked my butt off for 50 hr work weeks during my pregnancy to pay a $16000 medical bill (which I have finally paid off without filing bankruptcy, thank you) when I could have sat on the couch for nine months eating bonbons and got the whole thing paid for. How much sense does that make?

See to me that is just wrong! Why not continue to work if you wanted to - take a paid maternity leave for up to a year after the baby is born at 60% of your salary, have your medical paid if you can't afford it or a percentage if you can, and when you go back to work, if you can't afford your full daycare costs, have it partially paid? We're very civil up here. Speaking of civil - do you know the French routinely get 6 weeks holidays here per year - like everybody? Or more??

The problem is Grumbles, who is going to pay for the maternity leave, the free healthcare, full daycare? The taxpayers, like Lovin and the rest of the monkeys that work are the ones that will be paying for it.

Nothing is free, they are taxing us to death down here. I hope what I am trying to say is making sense. JSM

All we worker bees pay into a fund called UI or unemployment insurance which right now has billions in overpayments. It's a relatively small amount that comes off your paycheque once a month. Maternity leave funds/and or medical leave if you have an operation or have just lost your mind also come out of that fund. Or if you lose your job - you get a cheque semi-monthly based on your income when you were working. Our medical system obviously isn't free, but the majority of people are healthy and rarely need to go to the doctor, and some are very ill so it sorta balances out. Also, our federal government makes payments as to the provincial government. We were hardly in debt nationally until the current government took power. Now we are awash in red. Sigh, this almost politics and really boring - let's talk about JSM's virginity (thread).

I have one question though, does Canada "ration" healthcare? Say Fanny Mae needs dialysis for renal failure and she is 65 and in good health otherwise.

Do they say well since she is over 65, she can't get dialysis that would save her life, because she is over the age limit? So poor Fanny Mae gets to go to hospice and go to see Jesus because she was too old, but healthy otherwise?

That is my biggest problem with NHS (not sure what y'all call it in Canada).

Now to the virginity question. JSM was contemplating becoming a nun, but Fanny Mae talked me out of it and joining the Army (which I found out I am too old to join)

Found this on my favorite blog, AoS. Seems the Police chief of Tehran thinks Neda Soltan was staged by the protestors.

Tell that to her family jerkface. They couldn't even give her a proper muslim funeral in a mosque. JMO JSM

Hope I'm not going on another political rant. Won't got on one again tonight. I just love Iranians, love their food and their people. JMO JSM

The murder of 26-year-old protester Neda Soltan was staged, Iran's chief of police said Wednesday — a statement that rights groups and Iran watchers are calling a propagandistic lie. ...

Soltan's family and those with her at the time of her death said that members of the paramilitary Basij militia drove by on a motorcycle and shot her in an alley near a major protest in Tehran.

But, according to Iran's Press TV, police chief Esmaeil Ahmadi-Moqadam declared Wednesday that the shooting was a "prearranged scenario" — a "premeditated act of murder" that could not have been committed by Iranian police.

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Moqadam led the investigation following an order from Ahmadinejad inquiring about the "suspicious" nature of the shooting. The Iranian president said even before the investigation that anti-government "elements" were behind the killing — presumably fingering either foreign agents or even the protesters themselves.

Iran analysts said the government's line was part of a "systematic lie" on which Iranian propaganda is based.

"They cannot deny [Soltan's killing] anymore, so they are trying to fabricate a scenario in which they are not accountable and Ahmadinejad now becomes someone who is seeking the truth," said Mehdi Khalaji, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

"The story has been completely changed upside-down," said Khalaji, who noted the 30-year-old regime's history of turning victims into violators. "The people who were oppressed — now they are accused of killing."

I'll do it for you.

I think I'mgonnagetajob needs to be ousted!!!!!

See where we are headed if we don't get our country back on the right road!!!!!!

Fanny, have you seen the story that a lot of the ballots have Imanutjob's name written in the same handwriting?

You guys,my friend next door just told me that a guy she dated years ago has cancer in his kidneys.I felt so bad for her.She had been crying.I then told her the first guy I ever dated in high school passed away in a VA hospital last weekend.I just found out 2 days ago.I always wanted to talk to him after we broke up and I never did.All these years gone and never got to clear the air between us.I was crazy for him at the time.Now it's too late. So to make this all go together,I told her if she had things to say to him,she should find a way before it's too late.I hope it doesn't get the mess beat out of her by his wife.

I have been in a funk lately. The man I had been engaged to passed, I have known this for about 2 weeks. I always thought he would get himself together and we would then be together. I have been very upset. I know how she feels.

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You guys,my friend next door just told me that a guy she dated years ago has cancer in his kidneys.I felt so bad for her.She had been crying.I then told her the first guy I ever dated in high school passed away in a VA hospital last weekend.I just found out 2 days ago.I always wanted to talk to him after we broke up and I never did.All these years gone and never got to clear the air between us.I was crazy for him at the time.Now it's too late. So to make this all go together,I told her if she had things to say to him,she should find a way before it's too late.I hope it doesn't get the mess beat out of her by his wife.

That was good advice though to your friend. I didn't no the guy I dated in high school had died, until I got my invitation to my 5 year class reunion, he died in jail

I don't know whether to laugh or cry....

It was a strange relationship. The jail part didn't surprise me, that he died, that surprised me. We were two lost souls, that hung out together. And he loved Johnny Cash.

Maybe Bearly will take us out to eat. If Muffy goes too,surely we won't get into trouble.

Roman Delight tonight. I had promised my son's teacher when he was one that I would make sure I got him out of the house at least once a day. I have rarely gone against that. I love to go to dinner with him because I learn a lot about him when he is a captive audience/speaker.

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There is no foot too small that it cannot leave an imprint on this world.Time spent with monkeys is never wasted. I believe in miracles!

You guys,my friend next door just told me that a guy she dated years ago has cancer in his kidneys.I felt so bad for her.She had been crying.I then told her the first guy I ever dated in high school passed away in a VA hospital last weekend.I just found out 2 days ago.I always wanted to talk to him after we broke up and I never did.All these years gone and never got to clear the air between us.I was crazy for him at the time.Now it's too late. So to make this all go together,I told her if she had things to say to him,she should find a way before it's too late.I hope it doesn't get the mess beat out of her by his wife.

I hope she doesn't beat her up either!!

Have you ever listened to the words, UNANSWERED PRAYER, by my heart throb Garth Brooks???

Yes. I just hate to see people go through life without making things right.I don't mean anythng romantic. I just know from personal experience it's nice to be forgiven and to forgive.No hanky panky or such.

Well, just my two cents. In my lifetime there has been a few unfinished stories. Just like BEARLY said, sometimes you just have to let it go and let God handle it. If your heart is in the right place about it, and it never happens, your intentions were good. God will understand and so will he probably. If he doesn't, you'll surely hear about it when you reach heaven's gate, one way or the other.

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Jesus loves the little children, all the children in the world.Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. Jesus loves the little children of the world.

Maybe Bearly will take us out to eat. If Muffy goes too,surely we won't get into trouble.

Roman Delight tonight. I had promised my son's teacher when he was one that I would make sure I got him out of the house at least once a day. I have rarely gone against that. I love to go to dinner with him because I learn a lot about him when he is a captive audience/speaker.

You guys,my friend next door just told me that a guy she dated years ago has cancer in his kidneys.I felt so bad for her.She had been crying.I then told her the first guy I ever dated in high school passed away in a VA hospital last weekend.I just found out 2 days ago.I always wanted to talk to him after we broke up and I never did.All these years gone and never got to clear the air between us.I was crazy for him at the time.Now it's too late. So to make this all go together,I told her if she had things to say to him,she should find a way before it's too late.I hope it doesn't get the mess beat out of her by his wife.

I hope she doesn't beat her up either!!

Have you ever listened to the words, UNANSWERED PRAYER, by my heart throb Garth Brooks???

Yes. I just hate to see people go through life without making things right.I don't mean anythng romantic. I just know from personal experience it's nice to be forgiven and to forgive.No hanky panky or such.

Well, just my two cents. In my lifetime there has been a few unfinished stories. Just like BEARLY said, sometimes you just have to let it go and let God handle it. If your heart is in the right place about it, and it never happens, your intentions were good. God will understand and so will he probably. If he doesn't, you'll surely hear about it when you reach heaven's gate, one way or the other.

I left her message and told her don't do it. Her hubby doesn't care if she talks to him.I think I'll punch him out. You are right Fanny,we can't change the past.That's always been a hard one for me.

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You guys,my friend next door just told me that a guy she dated years ago has cancer in his kidneys.I felt so bad for her.She had been crying.I then told her the first guy I ever dated in high school passed away in a VA hospital last weekend.I just found out 2 days ago.I always wanted to talk to him after we broke up and I never did.All these years gone and never got to clear the air between us.I was crazy for him at the time.Now it's too late. So to make this all go together,I told her if she had things to say to him,she should find a way before it's too late.I hope it doesn't get the mess beat out of her by his wife.

I have been in a funk lately. The man I had been engaged to passed, I have known this for about 2 weeks. I always thought he would get himself together and we would then be together. I have been very upset. I know how she feels.

Oh BEARLY, I am so sorry.

Sometimes life really sucks. Especially in love life. The ones you like, don't like you, and the ones that like you, you don't like. It happens over and over. I always seemed to attract the weirdo's like a magnet. And I was always attracted to the ones who were bad or had problems. Thank goodness I finally came to my senses.

Oh the heartaches! I am sure the pain you are feeling is worse that your back pain.

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Jesus loves the little children, all the children in the world.Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. Jesus loves the little children of the world.

I had company again. Now Bearly is gone again.I agree with you guys.I feel like MJ did have some iappropriate behavior.Then there are the family issues.Then there's the drugs.What a mess.The thoughts of an abused child bothers me the most.I just have a hard time getting past that.

Me too, and also all the weirdness around his three kids, and the masks he made them wear.

That always bothered me too. But I read somewhere today I think it was the Daily Mail, that he was freaked out by the world. That he wanted LMP to go out a back door of some hotel when they were married and she high tailed it to the elevator. He thought she was gonna be kidnapped or something. His body guards found her in a bar sipping a martini. He was pararnoid beyond belief and I am sure his lovely family upbringing didn't help. The man was a freak, he needed help. He didn't get it. Whether he was a pedophile or not, I can't make that call. JMO JSM

There is the problem.

This is not about MJ, or people who can afford it, but our Mental and Behavioral Health care sucks. We really need to do more to help people who need it, and force insurance companies to pay more towards their care. People should not lose their houses because they or their children need help. I see it all the time. It is unfair.

Bearly, ITA on this. My insurance covers "therapy" up to $1500 lifetime. So that is about hmmm 4 visits maximum? That also includes "physical therapy, not just mental. So if I busted my knee (knock on wood) and had to have therapy, they wouldn't pay because my insurance paid for previous physical therapy up to that amount and if I had a nervous breakdown, it wouldn't be covered at all because I have met my lifetime maximum for "therapy". BUT where I live, there is an agency through our Diocese that has therapists and psychologists that give their time on a sliding pay grade for anyone no matter what religion, etc. JSM

You guys,my friend next door just told me that a guy she dated years ago has cancer in his kidneys.I felt so bad for her.She had been crying.I then told her the first guy I ever dated in high school passed away in a VA hospital last weekend.I just found out 2 days ago.I always wanted to talk to him after we broke up and I never did.All these years gone and never got to clear the air between us.I was crazy for him at the time.Now it's too late. So to make this all go together,I told her if she had things to say to him,she should find a way before it's too late.I hope it doesn't get the mess beat out of her by his wife.

I have been in a funk lately. The man I had been engaged to passed, I have known this for about 2 weeks. I always thought he would get himself together and we would then be together. I have been very upset. I know how she feels.

Oh BEARLY, I am so sorry.

Sometimes life really sucks. Especially in love life. The ones you like, don't like you, and the ones that like you, you don't like. It happens over and over. I always seemed to attract the weirdo's like a magnet. And I was always attracted to the ones who were bad or had problems. Thank goodness I finally came to my senses.

Oh the heartaches! I am sure the pain you are feeling is worse that your back pain.

I had company again. Now Bearly is gone again.I agree with you guys.I feel like MJ did have some iappropriate behavior.Then there are the family issues.Then there's the drugs.What a mess.The thoughts of an abused child bothers me the most.I just have a hard time getting past that.

Me too, and also all the weirdness around his three kids, and the masks he made them wear.

That always bothered me too. But I read somewhere today I think it was the Daily Mail, that he was freaked out by the world. That he wanted LMP to go out a back door of some hotel when they were married and she high tailed it to the elevator. He thought she was gonna be kidnapped or something. His body guards found her in a bar sipping a martini. He was pararnoid beyond belief and I am sure his lovely family upbringing didn't help. The man was a freak, he needed help. He didn't get it. Whether he was a pedophile or not, I can't make that call. JMO JSM

There is the problem.

This is not about MJ, or people who can afford it, but our Mental and Behavioral Health care sucks. We really need to do more to help people who need it, and force insurance companies to pay more towards their care. People should not lose their houses because they or their children need help. I see it all the time. It is unfair.

Bearly, ITA on this. My insurance covers "therapy" up to $1500 lifetime. So that is about hmmm 4 visits maximum? That also includes "physical therapy, not just mental. So if I busted my knee (knock on wood) and had to have therapy, they wouldn't pay because my insurance paid for previous physical therapy up to that amount and if I had a nervous breakdown, it wouldn't be covered at all because I have met my lifetime maximum for "therapy". BUT where I live, there is an agency through our Diocese that has therapists and psychologists that give their time on a sliding pay grade for anyone no matter what religion, etc. JSM

Bearly, I didn't know I hit the bold button, please don't think I am yelling at you with this post.

Maybe Bearly will take us out to eat. If Muffy goes too,surely we won't get into trouble.

Roman Delight tonight. I had promised my son's teacher when he was one that I would make sure I got him out of the house at least once a day. I have rarely gone against that. I love to go to dinner with him because I learn a lot about him when he is a captive audience/speaker.

You can't beat that one on one time. I love to talk to my little grandson when it's just us.

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