ourbigdumbmouth:There has been an awful lot of ammo orders recently. DHS, now this.

I just wonder how this compares to previous years.

Maybe they're just stockpiling like the tea party are.

keeps the prices down.

I have a friend who is a redneck from north carolina. He's a john bircher - and keep in mind that utah is a state where you can admit that in public.

Back when barry soetoro was freshly elected, he and his other bircher friend - who i was bowling in league with at the time - were discussing how sure they were that obama wants to ban the sale of guns but knows that he can't so he'll ban the sale of ammunition.

They went on to discuss how the owner of the biggest gun store in town - who is also a bircher - loves when a democrat gets elected to the oval office because ammunition sales go through the roof for two years. And hates when republicans get elected because ammo sales go flat for two years.

Well this makes me glad to know that if a foreign enemy decimates the military, obliterates police departments, destroys Homeland Security, massacre the TSA, then we will have the NOAA with their military weapons ready to defend the homeland.

So, back during all the furor in the aftermath of the movie theater shooting, gun rights supporters were telling us that one guy buying 6,000 rounds of ammo is not something that should raise a red flag; it's perfectly reasonable for one person to have that much ammo.Now, a government agency buying 46,000 rounds of ammo is cause for concern and indicative of some deep dark government conspiracy.But if 6k rounds is an appropriate amount for one person, maybe the NOAA is just buying ammo for 8 guys. No big deal.

If you ever listen to Alex Jones (everyone should sometimes, not too often, just to remind us how crazy our fellow Americans are), the common psychological refrain is OMG YOU HAVE WOKEN ME UP TO THE TRUTH I AM GOING TO MAKE ALL MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY SEE THIS THANK YOU FOR OPENING UP MY EYES.

This is 90% of the thinking of an Alex Jones listener. Then they go back to their engineering and banking jobs and look just like the rest of us while these nutty thoughts keep rattling around their brains. omg conspiracy

cman:Well this makes me glad to know that if a foreign enemy decimates the military, obliterates police departments, destroys Homeland Security, massacre the TSA, then we will have the NOAA with their military weapons ready to defend the homeland.

I thought that was what heavily armed high school football players were for?

Confabulat:If you ever listen to Alex Jones (everyone should sometimes, not too often, just to remind us how crazy our fellow Americans are), the common psychological refrain is OMG YOU HAVE WOKEN ME UP TO THE TRUTH I AM GOING TO MAKE ALL MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY SEE THIS THANK YOU FOR OPENING UP MY EYES.

This is 90% of the thinking of an Alex Jones listener. Then they go back to their engineering and banking jobs and look just like the rest of us while these nutty thoughts keep rattling around their brains. omg conspiracy

I've recently been back in contact with an old college pal I hadn't talked to in 30+ years, and he's clearly on the team. He's done everything but call me "sheeple" while repeatedly unleashing one tinfoil derpload after another. Really a nice guy, never really a dick like a lot of us could be at times, so it pains me to see this.

tinfoil-hat maggie:Kittypie070: Would you conspiracy nutters all just go choke to death on a nice can of cream of bullet soup now?

I only believe in real conspiracies, this isn't one.

What IS the conspiracy anyway? Do they think that the NOAA Weather Service is now seeding clouds from the ground? That the Fisheries Dept. is going to be killing random marlin fishermen? Or are they just unaware that the Fisheries guys are worried about running into drug smugglers on the open sea where a badge and a stern warning might not go very far?

propasaurus:So, back during all the furor in the aftermath of the movie theater shooting, gun rights supporters were telling us that one guy buying 6,000 rounds of ammo is not something that should raise a red flag; it's perfectly reasonable for one person to have that much ammo.Now, a government agency buying 46,000 rounds of ammo is cause for concern and indicative of some deep dark government conspiracy.But if 6k rounds is an appropriate amount for one person, maybe the NOAA is just buying ammo for 8 guys. No big deal.

Its the end of the federal fiscal year, so everyone (in the federal gub'mint) is spending the rest of their allocated money. Use it or lose it. They could also be using it for a hedge on inflation as ammo prices have been going up considerably in the last few years...

/I wonder what would happen if Joe-Schmo tried to order 46,000 round of FMJs.//prolly get watch listed if not visited directly - might get your bible/koran/FSM (recipe) book(s) taken away///if you see something, SAY something - as long as its not about the gub'mint or the president, you paranoid, right-wing racists.

BravadoGT:propasaurus: So, back during all the furor in the aftermath of the movie theater shooting, gun rights supporters were telling us that one guy buying 6,000 rounds of ammo is not something that should raise a red flag; it's perfectly reasonable for one person to have that much ammo.Now, a government agency buying 46,000 rounds of ammo is cause for concern and indicative of some deep dark government conspiracy.But if 6k rounds is an appropriate amount for one person, maybe the NOAA is just buying ammo for 8 guys. No big deal.

Why does the NOAA need any ammo?

You didn't RTFA didja?

It was really for NOAA's Dept. of Fisheries, which had to deal with drunk fishermen and drug smugglers on the open water without any backup.

skantea:I love a good conspiracy theory. Don't understand why people get mad about it. It's 99% harmless, and about 20% true...eventually...40 years after everyone who might get hurt by the truth is dead.

I think it all goes to why is the information "classified"? for , why is the gub'mint, who likes to tout just how open they are, classifying things that would otherwise not matter?

case-in-point 1: why has the FBI "classified" (or otherwise ruled out releasing) the 50+ surveillance videos of the plane hitting the pentagon? that makes no sense. So, people "assume" that something is being covered up. I think that natural to a degree, but at the same time, people tend to go WAY too far on these things.

case-in-point 2: Why is our president - who ran on a ticket of openness and transparency spending so much money to hide his school financial records? it makes no sense, so people "assume" there is something to hide.

there are a LOT of questions about a LOT of things. In the end, what can be done about ANY of them?

Gyrfalcon:BravadoGT: propasaurus: So, back during all the furor in the aftermath of the movie theater shooting, gun rights supporters were telling us that one guy buying 6,000 rounds of ammo is not something that should raise a red flag; it's perfectly reasonable for one person to have that much ammo.Now, a government agency buying 46,000 rounds of ammo is cause for concern and indicative of some deep dark government conspiracy.But if 6k rounds is an appropriate amount for one person, maybe the NOAA is just buying ammo for 8 guys. No big deal.

Why does the NOAA need any ammo?

You didn't RTFA didja?

It was really for NOAA's Dept. of Fisheries, which had to deal with drunk fishermen and drug smugglers on the open water without any backup.

It would be easier to believe if the ammo was for fish&game. When was the last time someone tried to take over a fish hatchery?

untaken_name:I'm actually a lot more worried about the 1.2 BILLION hollowpoints the DHS has recently ordered. Link

yeah, but remember, DHS has what? - 8 or 10 agencies under it, so they could be buying ammo for the whole lot (save for the secret service)... the coast gaurd is one of them too... divide that by how many employees?, how many of which are "officially" armed and need to re-certify every year?, yadda yadda yadda... lobster bisque...

BostonEMT:skantea: I love a good conspiracy theory. Don't understand why people get mad about it. It's 99% harmless, and about 20% true...eventually...40 years after everyone who might get hurt by the truth is dead.

I think it all goes to why is the information "classified"? for , why is the gub'mint, who likes to tout just how open they are, classifying things that would otherwise not matter?

case-in-point 1: why has the FBI "classified" (or otherwise ruled out releasing) the 50+ surveillance videos of the plane hitting the pentagon? that makes no sense. So, people "assume" that something is being covered up. I think that natural to a degree, but at the same time, people tend to go WAY too far on these things.

case-in-point 2: Why is our president - who ran on a ticket of openness and transparency spending so much money to hide his school financial records? it makes no sense, so people "assume" there is something to hide.

there are a LOT of questions about a LOT of things. In the end, what can be done about ANY of them?

Case-in-point 3: Why is our "president" spending 2 mill of taxpayer money on lawyers to keep his birth certificate sealed, and to fight any attempt in court to unseal it? No previous president has done this, but then previous presidents have been legal Americans.

BostonEMT:untaken_name: I'm actually a lot more worried about the 1.2 BILLION hollowpoints the DHS has recently ordered. Link

yeah, but remember, DHS has what? - 8 or 10 agencies under it, so they could be buying ammo for the whole lot (save for the secret service)... the coast gaurd is one of them too... divide that by how many employees?, how many of which are "officially" armed and need to re-certify every year?, yadda yadda yadda... lobster bisque...

BravadoGT:propasaurus: So, back during all the furor in the aftermath of the movie theater shooting, gun rights supporters were telling us that one guy buying 6,000 rounds of ammo is not something that should raise a red flag; it's perfectly reasonable for one person to have that much ammo.Now, a government agency buying 46,000 rounds of ammo is cause for concern and indicative of some deep dark government conspiracy.But if 6k rounds is an appropriate amount for one person, maybe the NOAA is just buying ammo for 8 guys. No big deal.

Shirley Ujest:Why is if more than likely that republicans are gun nuts and democrats not as much?

..If by gun nuts you mean people who lawfully own and use their guns safely and in accordance with the US constitution, that would be Republicans.

Progressive Democrats tend to by their guns from the trunks of cars and shoot their own children while doing drive by shootings and holding up 7-11s. These creatures are highly respected in your bizarro world.

BravadoGT:propasaurus: So, back during all the furor in the aftermath of the movie theater shooting, gun rights supporters were telling us that one guy buying 6,000 rounds of ammo is not something that should raise a red flag; it's perfectly reasonable for one person to have that much ammo.Now, a government agency buying 46,000 rounds of ammo is cause for concern and indicative of some deep dark government conspiracy.But if 6k rounds is an appropriate amount for one person, maybe the NOAA is just buying ammo for 8 guys. No big deal.