I totally agree. And if you give, give it with a cheerful heart. Kasi kung napipilitan ka lang, wala din, it will not be a good offering to the Lord. Kawawa ka naman, nagbigay ka na ng tithes, bali wala lang pala kasi napilitan ka lang.

Hay naku, POUTY GURL -- thank you for clarify the 10% of what.Achievable that 10% -- making it into a habit is achievable, sure.

BUT to say na kelangan with a "happy heart" -- oo, happy ako I can share -- pero hindi ako happy if I give it to my parish. Happy ako talaga when I give it to a foundation/cause/charity. Mas happy ako giving to Gawad Kalingan kesa sa Santuario de San Jose in Greenhills. Sorry, but true.

So yun ang dilemma ko -- the happy in giving to whom??

Atchaka hindi ba "charity begins at home.... and never leaves it"?Meaning, won't God be happier with me if my tithing goes to extra help to people under my employ? Teka, let us make something clear ha -- my house staff and business employees get a very good compensation package. Kaya nga nobody can pirate my house staff away from me eh. Now, if I give extra over and above that good compensation package to my house or office staff -- kasi nakikita ko hirap pa rin sa dami nang anak, pagka irresponsable ng asawa, whatever reason -- puede na kaya ma consider yon as part of my tithe?

The word tithe is based on the number ten in Hebrew, so if its not 10% its not tithing

Will a man rob God?Yet you have robbed Me!But you say,In what way have we robbed you?In tithes and offerings.You are cursed with a curseFor you have robbed Me,Even this whole nation .Bring all the tithes into thestorehouse ,That there may be food in My house,And try Me now in this Says the Lord of hosts,If I will not open for you the windows of heaven And pour out for you such blessingThat there will not be room enough toreceive it

Malachi 3:8-10

What a challenge! Will we take it up? God's promises have been tried and proven. This includes the promises regarding tithing. God invites us to try Him, to prove His wisdom, to test His truth. He doesn't need the money. He simply wants us to discover the rewards of obedience. Giving is God's supernatural means of priming the pump of divine supply. We initiate it by faith, not reason. Giving to God is the prerequisite for enjoying true financial freedom.

"Wow," you say. "How can I give God anything when I can't even pay my bills?Doesn't God expect me to take care of debts first?"At first glance, such a response sounds reasonable. The problem is , it's not God's response. He insists that if don't give, then we are robbing Him-and we will end up in worse financial shape than ever.

Well sis in my church i just give it during collection time. Kasi sa amin we only have one collection during the service. I'm sure those people who earn big give their offerings through cheques. But you know sis when you give your contribution in whatever way , don't worry what's going to happen to it or how your church is going to use it, you are not in control of it anymore. God knows that you did your part with a sincere and honest heart, what happens after tha,t is not your problem anymore.

Do I "tithe"? the answer is NO. Does it mean I don't give? Ofcourse not. I do. Christian giving is voluntary. It takes into account that each individual has different circumstances in life. “If the readiness is there first,” the Bible says, “it is especially acceptable according to what a person has, not according to what a person does not have.”

"Tithing" was part of Mosaic Law to the "ancient" nation of Israel. Twelve tribes of Israel were required by law to support a 13th tribe, the priestly Levites, who had no land inheritance. This enabled the Levites to concentrate on the spiritual needs of the nation. (Numbers 18:21-24) Hindi lahat ng Israelita pwedeng maging priest (mga Levites lang) but everyone could share in the support of the priestly service through the "tithe". So from Israelites up to Jewish's time before Jesus' came, "tithing" was observed.

Now, when Jesus came and after he died on and resurrected, na-abolished na ang Mosaic Law. There were, though, a few “necessary things” that must be obeyed. Eto “The holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you, except these necessary things, to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication.” (Acts 15:25, 28, 29) Interestingly, God’s law on tithing was not listed among the “necessary things” for Christians. This is also the reason kung bakit hindi na rin applicable sa atin ang observance ng "Sabbath".

Later, the apostle Paul stressed again that God’s Law covenant with Israel had been abolished by Jesus’ death. “[God] blotted out the handwritten document,” he said, “and He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake.” (Colossians 2:14) This does not mean that Christians have no law. Rather, there has been a change of law that now involves “the law of the Christ.”—Galatians 6:2; Hebrews 7:12.

So nung panahon ni Pablo nung unang nag-form na yung mga unang congregation, he never appealed for payment in the form of tithes. Rather, he was willing to cover his own expenses by working as a tentmaker on a part-time basis. (Acts 18:3, 4) In all honesty he could say: “These hands have attended to the needs of me and of those with me.”—Acts 20:34.

Do I "tithe"? the answer is NO. Does it mean I don't give? Ofcourse not. I do. Christian giving is voluntary. It takes into account that each individual has different circumstances in life. “If the readiness is there first,” the Bible says, “it is especially acceptable according to what a person has, not according to what a person does not have.”

"Tithing" was part of Mosaic Law to the "ancient" nation of Israel. Twelve tribes of Israel were required by law to support a 13th tribe, the priestly Levites, who had no land inheritance. This enabled the Levites to concentrate on the spiritual needs of the nation. (Numbers 18:21-24) Hindi lahat ng Israelita pwedeng maging priest (mga Levites lang) but everyone could share in the support of the priestly service through the "tithe". So from Israelites up to Jewish's time before Jesus' came, "tithing" was observed.

Now, when Jesus came and after he died on and resurrected, na-abolished na ang Mosaic Law. There were, though, a few “necessary things” that must be obeyed. Eto “The holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you, except these necessary things, to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication.” (Acts 15:25, 28, 29) Interestingly, God’s law on tithing was not listed among the “necessary things” for Christians. This is also the reason kung bakit hindi na rin applicable sa atin ang observance ng "Sabbath".

Later, the apostle Paul stressed again that God’s Law covenant with Israel had been abolished by Jesus’ death. “[God] blotted out the handwritten document,” he said, “and He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake.” (Colossians 2:14) This does not mean that Christians have no law. Rather, there has been a change of law that now involves “the law of the Christ.”—Galatians 6:2; Hebrews 7:12.

So nung panahon ni Pablo nung unang nag-form na yung mga unang congregation, he never appealed for payment in the form of tithes. Rather, he was willing to cover his own expenses by working as a tentmaker on a part-time basis. (Acts 18:3, 4) In all honesty he could say: “These hands have attended to the needs of me and of those with me.”—Acts 20:34.

Do I "tithe"? the answer is NO. Does it mean I don't give? Ofcourse not. I do. Christian giving is voluntary. It takes into account that each individual has different circumstances in life. “If the readiness is there first,” the Bible says, “it is especially acceptable according to what a person has, not according to what a person does not have.”

"Tithing" was part of Mosaic Law to the "ancient" nation of Israel. Twelve tribes of Israel were required by law to support a 13th tribe, the priestly Levites, who had no land inheritance. This enabled the Levites to concentrate on the spiritual needs of the nation. (Numbers 18:21-24) Hindi lahat ng Israelita pwedeng maging priest (mga Levites lang) but everyone could share in the support of the priestly service through the "tithe". So from Israelites up to Jewish's time before Jesus' came, "tithing" was observed.

Now, when Jesus came and after he died on and resurrected, na-abolished na ang Mosaic Law. There were, though, a few “necessary things” that must be obeyed. Eto “The holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you, except these necessary things, to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication.” (Acts 15:25, 28, 29) Interestingly, God’s law on tithing was not listed among the “necessary things” for Christians. This is also the reason kung bakit hindi na rin applicable sa atin ang observance ng "Sabbath".

Later, the apostle Paul stressed again that God’s Law covenant with Israel had been abolished by Jesus’ death. “[God] blotted out the handwritten document,” he said, “and He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake.” (Colossians 2:14) This does not mean that Christians have no law. Rather, there has been a change of law that now involves “the law of the Christ.”—Galatians 6:2; Hebrews 7:12.

So nung panahon ni Pablo nung unang nag-form na yung mga unang congregation, he never appealed for payment in the form of tithes. Rather, he was willing to cover his own expenses by working as a tentmaker on a part-time basis. (Acts 18:3, 4) In all honesty he could say: “These hands have attended to the needs of me and of those with me.”—Acts 20:34.

The Old Testament and the New Testament co-exist I believe. What's the use of publishing the Old Testament in the Bible if it's useless? If everything there has been abolished. What about the Ten Commandments has that been abolished too?As a matter of fact Jesus said this at the Sermon on the Mount

Matthew 5:17-18, "Think not that I came to abolish the law, or the prophets: I came not to abolish, but to fulfill. For verily I say to you, Until heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle in no wise shall pass away from the law, until all be fulfilled."

Jesus taught us new ways to see the law in the NT but He didn't teach us new laws. Everything that Jesus taught was in the OT or else He wouldn't have said "it is written" or " it is said"--said where?written where? The answer in the OT. The OT is till binding.

tithing is offering and giving back what the Lord has blessed us. at first mahirap, parang 1K would go along way before the next payday pero i still trust the lord and give what is due to him. Giving to charities and other donations aside from tithes are the fruits of our love to our neighbors. but that doesnt cover what we have to give to the Lord.

For me, we have to have the heart to give our tithes, i honestly say na there are times na i fail due to financial constraints but mabigat sa puso talaga and kaka-guilty.. notice niyo that you cant give that tithe pero if you are going to sum it up, nagagastos natin yun sa mga less important things..

true, we give to the lord, what the chusrch officials do to the money they collect is beyond our control, sila ang responsible and accountable if they dont use it for God.

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Tithing is still the right practice of our day, the promise to tithers (found in Malachi 3:10-12) still apply; for while Jesus removed the curse of the Law, the promise to those who practice this form of giving still applies.Although the tithe is not mandatory in the sense that it is not obligatory. We don't tithe because we have to. But, as the right thing, as the blessed act, every Christian who loves God should demonstrate that love with their tithe.So then, Is God perfectly okay if certain ones choose not to tithe? I don't believe for one moment that He is. God has given the charge of the keeping of the house to every Christian. We are responsible for building the Kingdom, and He's even established that our FIRST priority should be the things of God (Matt. 6:31-33).Some posts in this thread may seem confusing, or like a contradiction; but to state it in one statement, for clarification: The tithe is no longer mandatory, but from God's perspective, it is expected. Consider fasting. It is not mandated to the Christian Church, but it is, in fact, expected as a component of Christian living. God expects us to fast. He expects us to pray. He expects us to be cheerful givers. He also expects us to tithe.

But even if we do tithe, know that it is still meaningless if you practice it para lang masabi that you are doing it like the rest of us.. Here is a Scripture in the New Testament regarding the right practice in tithing: Mt 23:23 NIV-YOU GIVE A TENTH OF YOUR SPICES (that’s tithe)—MINT, DILL AND CUMMIN (in other words, everything). BUT YOU HAVE NEGLECTED THE MORE IMPORTANT MATTERS OF THE LAW—JUSTICE, MERCY AND FAITHFULNESS. Now, listen to the next words. YOU SHOULD HAVE PRACTICED THE LATTER, WITHOUT NEGLECTING THE FORMER. What was the former? your tithe. Without neglecting tithing. There it is. You see, the problem was they were giving the tenth, but they were not walking in faith; they were not practicing justice. Jesus tells us to do both.

tithing is..* 10% of our income after tax.* It is a priority over everything else we need to spend on. * It is given to the immediate body of Christ where one receives his support in the Christian life (religious community or parish/church)

tithes will be used for: evangelization, members' formation, community activities, administrative expenses, etc.

Scriptural basis: Malachi 3:7b?10

* We rob God if we don't tithe. Simply because the money is His in the first place and He's just asking us to turn over 10% of His own money.

* We tithe so that there may be "food in God's house." Food is life-giving. The tithes support our work for the Lord, which work gives life to many couples.

*open the floodgates": God can never be outdone in generosity. We will always receive more than we give (not necessarily in terms of money).

sa akin pong pananaw, ang pagbibigay ng tithes could be in many forms. Since it is a form of thanks that we owe our God, it is not obligatory but rather it should be in the form of our sincere gratitude, submission and obedience to the Lord.

I remember a day in Christ's life when He told His apostles that the Heavenly Father is happy with the woman, who was almost a beggar but still gave a couple of silver coins in the temple, because she is offering to the Lord what she really cannot afford to give because there's nothing left much for her to live by. That is probably more than 10%.

I think these days, tithes could be in many forms as long as the main point is to give/share yourself to others. And you share yourself not only to the church but you may share what you can offer to the people of the church and this could be anyone that needs your assistance... not necessarily monetary.

I think our Lord will be happier if we take every opportunity to share ourselves to others when others knocks on our doors.

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