The FACEIT Spring Season Week #10 has finally arrived. This past week we saw evil win his fourth straight event, his dominance has been established and well be beyond a shadow of a doubt if he wins this Sunday as well.

He easily made his way right to the finals where he beat Cypher in three straight games to play an absolutely perfect tournament again by not losing a single map to any of his opponents. This is a remarkable feat considering it is the fourth week in a row that he has pulled this off.

Map picking:
- Bo1: Player A (player labeled as "host" in match-up), elims first map, Player B elims second, repeat until one map is left.
- Bo3: Player A elims first map, Player B elims second, Player A elims third, Player B elims fourth, Player A picks map, Player B picks map, final map decider
- Bo5: Player A elims, Player B elims, Player A picks, Player B picks, Player A picks, Player B picks, final map decider

Other:
- Servers must be located within Europe, unless both players agree differently.

You've got to admit though that those online "records" and lan performances don't seem to correlate too much. If you'd like to coin a better term that appropriately captures this observation, feel free.

The only guy who gives him a challenge online is cypher and the other guys are either retired or live across the ocean. So guess why he is so good online compared to lan.
Use ur brain once in a while, heard it helps ..

Well, as already said, strenx has been dominating online cups (gdata, zotac) just the same for a while, with lots of stiff - aka non-retired - opposition around while underperforming on lan in comparison. So my brain likes to deduce that those two, online and lan, are two different beasts entirely. While also recalling what cooller rambled about the other day on stream, namely that lan is the thing that matters.

Let the guy who was already beaten into the finals? Because someone who you dont pay for ages reveals the truth and refuses to continue?
I mean there're many delusional tards saying 'not professional' every minute on streams, but faceit themselves seems to be even more stupid. I'm pretty disappointed in admins...

Why do you always feel the urge to defend your fellow countrymen no matter how fucking stupid and wrong they are? Is it something genetic like kebabs going apeshit after you insulted their mother? WAS MEINE MUTTER??!

I'm not even suprised that agent was too fucking stupid to press a single button on a webpage and yes I rather believe he didn't do it than faceit suppressing his money. That guy has a history for a reason. Just ban him altogether from every tournament and let him rot in his Siberian cave where he can suka blyad all day long and enjoy his hooch.
And hopefully he goes blind which would be a blessing for that ugly shithead.

Agent knocked pavel and evil out of the cup, proceeded into the finals and quit because faceit hasnt paid him 700$ that he won on previous cups
And retard roychez lets the beaten evil play the final instead of him

rofl you are really going to listen to h8m3 story? He is anti-faceit since day one.

First he was butthurt because of evil and was claiming faceit doesn't want Russians to win, now that evil gets for some reason put in finals he is angry about not paying players (which was agent's fault, not-surprisingly) and here he is, blaming faceit for other people's mistakes.

Eh? Can you even read? I'm flaming faceit for letting a beaten player proceed to the next stage, not for the Agent case. And you are so naive believing everything roychez says, do you really think Agent doesnt know how to redeem the money while evil, ash, pavel, cooller and others have withdrawn it several times each? Do you think that Agent believed that the money will magically appear on his bank account without doing anything? And should I really believe that roychez 'didn't receive anything' after several cases of few-weeks/months-long ignore when ppl like cas wanted their prizemoney/gear to be sent, pmed him on irc and he didnt answer anything but kept talking in channel? Yeah I'm so damn 'biased' because I actually talk to these people and know the business instead of reading fairytales on ESR or watching 'unbiased' official streams.

you're pretty much the only idiot who believes roychez is some kind of scammer who tried to screw over agent, while agent has a history of acting like a total redneck.
the rest of us are lucky the guys at faceit have a sense of humor and haven't said "fuck you" to this infested community for good.

As far as I'm aware, we never received a request of agent to redeem his prizes. We always pay out players (I think everyone who won something on our platform can vouch for it), so why would we do something different for agent..?

Maybe it would be best to just pay him now then and not ban him, if there was a misunderstanding? It would really suck to see an Agent this strong be banned from both 125 fps and Faceit, his aim has shot up!

a some time ago I post at esr some rumours, that Faceit didnt pay.
and a week later I was talking with Evil in QL. He approved, that he had some difficulties in getting his money, until then there were no publick messages about it.

I dont want any witch-hunt action and persecution of FaceIt, but it seems there is a problems, not everything is so smooth..

We paid him, there were some miscommunication between his manager, evil and myself regarding this. We understood he wanted to wait with the payment to gather some more funds and overall pay less of taxes, but in the end he didn't want to wait. We paid him as soon as this was cleared up.

Roy, you might also take into account that Agent doesn't dig much of an English and all that money transfer stuff, and he also isn't familiar with foreign prize payout systems - he always had his prize money payed to him on Russian LANs almost immediately and in cash.

If there a way that you could contact Ash (his buddy) first, and explain the actions Agent has to perform to redeem the dough - that would be awesome.

This Agent guy isn't much of a goodfella, for sure, he's a mean straight up and erect battle-mind machine, a bad motherfucker, if you like, but he's a big part of Quake - each time he's in - it's 10 times more fun and joy than anyone else, no matter the tier and stuff.

It would've been a huge help for the community and the very fun of Quake, if you could take a few more actions in payment routines for Agent, than to any other English-speaking quaker.

so as i understand it, agent got moved to grand finals in brackets, then decides to forfeit the final. ash should get the money and the win, but in a turn of events dirty italians do what they do best and "cook" the brackets to make it seem like agent forfeited semis and have legit finals.

not bad.

also, even if agent is 100% justified in his decision, faceit should penalize the prick and substract a significant amount of his winnings (or all of it), cause that's not the first time he's doing shit and it seems he doesn't plan on stopping. guy's a total fucking retard and it'd be best if he didn't even participate. not like he brings anything to the game.

But those weren't lucky games, he completely outclassed him on ztn, you can't say he brings nothing to the game. I for one am glad he isn't being banned and Roychez is being sensible and accepts the misunderstanding.

Mate, you really being a much more of a 'prick' here - it's about Agent, Ash, Evil and Facey admins to decide the stuff, and they've come to a mutual agreement here - it's not YOUR money or places they're playing over, so shut your hole and relax in your shit-stained bed.

If Ash were the same pussy-ass cry-baby as Cyfa, Strennie or you - he would've back out or throw oceans of diarrhea and hatred into the console chat and admins, but his primary goal is to battle out to the end, even if his odds are next to nothing.

And look at his performance with this attitude - the man is doing better with each cup he attends to.
He deserves all the respect here, and it was HIS call to bring Evil into the finals - keep that in mind, my hateful youngling.

I know what you mean, public games and not only those are shitholes regarding not just sportmanship but already basilar humanity.

But this don't change the fact that professional players are expected to be different.

Ash accepted because he's young and naive, and was probably embarrassed to refuse and caught off guard by the whole situation.

Mods should have never asked him to begin with. Rules states that he won, so he won. Then, it was possible to ask him if he would have been so kind to fight an unneccessary but entertaining showdown with someone else, just for spectacle value.
And yes, it would have been sporty to decline the offer to play in the finals when you never belonged there.
That aspect alone is insane, and not debatable.

Someone proposes you a thing against the rules and that will end up potentially hurting another player, it is only sporty to politely decline, while thinking "wtf admin, are you drunk or what?".

Of course its always good to take moneys and wins, but sportmanship is something else.

And a thing like this, would have never happened in CS, Dota, Starcrat etc..
They will laugh at us if they'll know.

After Agent refused to play nothing else mattered, I don't understand you all, I don't encourage any of you to HATE someone, but if you have to blame someone here it's Agent, and don't blame him by the way, I guess he has his personality (now anyone is free to have their opinion about that), but he is the cause of today's issue, which wasn't really an issue actually.

like i said, agent is a total fucking retard and should have his winnings taxed a bit (or if not completely) to get his fucked up crack head in order since it ain't the first time he's doing wild shit like this.

what i'm asking roychez is why the need to rig the brackets. they could've just gave a defwin to ash along with prizes and hold a show match instead of GF.

I understand you here, totally, but ash probably didn't even care anymore either.

Personally I wouldn't care anymore at this point, that prize wouldn't mean anything anymore... BUT I can understand how you feel about Faceit decision to keep the grand final going. In another hand they probably just wanted to do their job and provide what they were supposed to provide: a grand final.

With this question you put Ash in awkward situation. If he'd refused this game he'd look like chicken.
You should resolve such situations by yourself and it will be fair to play some kind of showmatch, not the game for 1st place.

This. 100x times.
Ash is a hardcore badass self-aware person, he doesn't give a fuck of other people's opinions on his decisions. He plays his games as he wants'em and does it better and better each time.

Nobody cares if he looks like a chicken in front of you. He would have looked so in front of the peoples, some of them at least, even if he would have been totally right, of course.
In fact, he has been even too nice, many other players would have replied "fuck you, i won, now if you wish i can play a showmatch but moneys and win stays here thanks."

It's not really about what ash wants, it just isn't right that a guy who loses can win the cup, it belittles the competition. As a competitive guy ash was never going to say no to playing, I think you should have just made the decision.

Yeah I guess there won't be anymore trivia from me. There's no point making statistics about player achievements when they are this heavily influenced by admin decisions.

I don't care about the Agent business, maybe he tried to redeem but the site wasn't working for him, maybe not. Anyway, Evil should have never won after losing two straight maps in the semis.

There was something like this back in Sunday Cup #21, when Sev3n beat Evil in the Ro16, but he forfeited the rest of the tournament, and admins actually wanted Evil to go through, but then changed their minds about it. Saying ash agreed to it doesn't justify it for me, especially because it took more than 30 mins for him "to agree".

It took a while because ash was trying to talk to agent to get back into it.

Anyways, as I previously mentioned I should have communicated with evil better and put this down as a showmatch. Unfortunately, I didn't realize the seriousness of the situation, because of several reason which I won't bother you with now (and I don't want to sound like making up excuses), but the situation is now as it is. I can't change it back.

I just want to say I'm here every Sunday with the best intentions, and run the QL Sunday Cup because I want to support QL. I have no intentions on "screwing anyone over", or "rig matches/brackets". If anyone else in the QL community wants to step up and help me run the cups, they are more than welcome.

I get that you don't have enough manpower, but you don't need people who can make quick decisions. Admins should be enforcing the rules, not making them up on the spot. This is not the first time something like this happened so there should have been a written guide what to do in a situation like this.

About not having a final. That happens. Spart1e won his only FACEIT by forfeit after Cypher was unable to play. There wasn't even a studio stream this time so you cannot even say that you owe the viewers a grand final.

There's a reason I wrote that and not "I guess I won't watch FACEIT anymore ". Because I'm not boycotting FACEIT, just don't feel like doing this thing anymore, which I mainly did for MYSELF as I love fun little stats. My trivia's always reflect on last week's happenings and I can't write about Evil making Sunday Cup history when he went out before that.

I would never abandon FACEIT and I'm greatful for them for all the cups they brought and I don't hold grudge against roychez or anything. He made a mistake, which he admitted right away and didn't try to sugercoat it. That's honorable. The trivia thing was just my own litte fun, which I feel pointless now. So no, it wasn't a threat that now I will take away my valuable contribution because they have disappointed me. I'm not delusional, I know my trivia's are worthless.

Thank you nvc, ins, and l1nkin for casting and streaming today. Turned out to be quite a cup, glad we got to see it, thanks guys!

lmao@russian drama. Do you really think if Faceit not paying out was common you wouldn't hear about it? And if Agent didn't know the procedure on Faceit's site because of language barrier or just not bothering to look, that's his problem. Some of you guys act like roychez kicked your dog or something.

Edit: I do agree though, even with ash's consent, having Evil go on to "officially" win the cup would be/is bad. I assumed it was a showmatch. At least we got 2 great semifinal matches.

However one thing sounds weird, weird because either the situation is weird or because agent is. Why would he boycott this if he didn't have another choice to get his money? I mean he must have contacted faceit by mail or ask someone about him not getting the money, before acting like this.....right? Or is agent that stupid to not even contact or ask someone before doing a boycott? Do russians communicate between each other via talking or via screaming?

And BTW I think the decision from faceit was right, For spectacles' sake it's always, always better to play the grand finals instead of winning by default.

I see. I'm not criticizing faceit, if anything the opposite. I'm just trying to understand how someone can be that dumb.

With that said, lets hypothetically put ourselves on agent's position (or what he says it is) and say somehow you didn't receive the message, or even did receive it and you failed to reply because of wanting to screw him over: how come agent didn't send an email before all this drama. It's so obvious. Furthermore he could have asked you today as he was playing today (obvious too), or asked ash to contact faceit, or if he really couldn't have contacted you by any way then post here on ESR or whatever so he could politely reach you, out of dozens of realistic choices instead of acting like a child.

Is he mentally retarded? I just don't get it, how can someone of his age act like today and how he usually does. For example today would have cost him any job, like if he were to not get paid in time for a service already done agent instead of sending an email he just goes and throws rocks to the company

Is it worth it to deal with a guy like that? I know it depends on each organizer's patience, but personally if I hosted cups I'd have added a "no agent" and "no cmss" rule years ago, both for playing and from chat (twitch and irc).

I kind of get the feeling it was the latter. I mean, if agent never did anything like this before that could mean something. But, he's got a well established reputation for being a diva. If I thought a company was legitimately trying to screw me over, I WOULDN'T PARTICIPATE IN THEIR EVENTS ANYMORE. And I would make sure I let as many people know about it as possible.

I understand wanting to provide a final for the specs, but you can't just arbitrarily pick one of the people who lost against agent and allow them to continue. It's unfair to everyone else who lost, and to the person waiting in the final. When the damage is done, sometimes you just have to accept it.

I don't see it as pro-evil bias, or malicious bracket manipulation, but it was a bad decision.

I agree, it is extremely unprofessional. This is esports, a legit tournament, players and community take it seriously, if you start throwing in arbitrary stuff like this and don't follow the rules, the credibility of the whole tournament and platform suffers. ask yourself if this would be allowed on a legit football tournament or similar, if not, then don't do it, you can't throw in the guy again that lost semis, and let him win the tournament

If it was for the rules and legitimacy of tournaments you really should check out how soccer works :P, your example. Dozens to hundreds of cases way worse than this.

In the end what you have to understand is that in these extreme cases there's no correct, perfect solution. However, one of the better ones is to play the match. Another thing you have to understand is that there are no rules for everything: sometimes officials have to make a judgement on the fly and without anything to rely on, like in this case. Both situations just happen and no one wins.

It's hilarious how ungrateful some people are... FaceIt cups are free to watch and have provided hours upon hours of exciting tournament action. They've done an incredible job over the years to deliver quality streams and casting (notwithstanding the sometimes awful issues with Twitch). If there are a few mistakes made along the way, people should be understanding. Instead, there is just a lot of infantile whining happening.

I don't think Evil should get 1st place after losing in quarters but then again it was a decision by Ash to play a finals against Evil. That's more on Ash to agreeing to it than on the FaceIt admins.

Finally, this is clearly another instance where Agent's destructive attitude is harming the community. I personally think he should get permabanned from FaceIt. If he's permitted to continually disrupt tournaments where people are playing in good faith, it can only lead to more harm and abuse of the tournaments in the future.

Roychez, you should pay out Agent's winnings and permaban him. I also think other tournie organizers (Zoot and co) should also consider permabanning him as well.

By not banning him, they are making his behavior acceptable. He's repeatedly demonstrated unsportsmanlike behavior and continues to do things like this. He's been temporarily banned at least once (that I know of) but without banning him now, it is only going to ensure he continues to ruin everyone's enjoyment (players and spectators alike) of the FaceIt Sunday cups.

I hope that FACEIT and Agent come to an understanding, it would be a loss to this game if we saw a talent and even personality like Agent disappear. Love or hate him and his escapades, he still beat Evil today and did so convincingly. I enjoy watching the names of yesterday play Quake, they're what make Quake to me. Whilst we do need new blood, it's just not as interesting... but each to their own.

To me, I don't see any misunderstanding on Agent's side. He clearly has enough brain cells to play the game at a high level yet he cannot seem to figure out what's going on with his winnings? I find that hard to believe. Asking anyone else who has won a FaceIt cup or asking any of the admins about it would have been the most common sense response for a person in Agent's position.

Moreover, getting to the finals and then making a statement about it is possibly the LEAST productive way of solving any misunderstanding.

EDIT: Also, given the guy's history of unsportsmanlike attitude, I don't think his claims can be taken in good faith. Everyone understands what kind of character this guy is and so I don't think anyone should buy his innocent naivete about the winnings system.

There's a show involved, a minor detail that has probably escaped you. And randomly cancelling semis and finals at his own leisure does damage to the show and the overall reputation of the game. I'd permanently ban that lil crazed egomaniac from everything out there, including ql if it's true that he now also starts kicking qlranks from servers like somebody said below.

Hey, schmerz (or welt) - I'd permanently ban YOU from the internets for being a cocksucker. How did THAT minor detail escaped you? (no offence - just replying in your terms).

Agent, mostly, IS the show involved in any tourney he participates in. Forfeiting a match is NOT forbidden by any rules anywhere.
Call it whatever you want, spray your shit 360-non-stop, but through the bracket pov - it's just a forfeit.

The procedure to take on from that point might be needed to thought over, maybe include showmatches for 2nd prize in such cases, but in terms of entertainment it doesn't make the show any less fun and sexy.

One-hour searches for ping-friendly servers and loads of weakling arguments in console chat do much more damage to the show.

look on the fucking comments to last 10 faceits. everytime agent was involved, the thread has like 2 times more comments.

he is THE drama maker, and as i said cuntless (hahaha good one i know) times - drama makes the game interesting. and beside drama, he is also capable of taking down the best. quake needs more agents, so the game will not be as stale as it is now.

but nerds like you will always cry, because they did not see their faceit final, omg end of world.

While you are right lets not hype agent to what he isn't. He is not lan champion material, he hasn't done anything major in quake and more importantly he doesn't attend to major lans, so as a player he isn't that much of a big loss.

Agent has been playing Q3 at top level since the earliest of days. How come he hasn't attended to any European or US lan in 15 years, in the hobby he does all day every day and is at the top.

Some thought he didn't because of using item timers -agent has been accused of cheating many times-, but it seems he hasn't because he is just dumb or some internet troll.

In context both reasons you named are just excuses. Quakecon wasn't the only tournament until 2014, you can save money in 15 years and here players were and are sponsored. The thing is agent did and doesn't want to go to major lans, for whatever reason, and someone of that level that doesn't to go major lans really isn't a major loss as a player; just some random online hero. He gets his fun by ruining cups just like cmss does, that's it.

Mate, the difficulties of attending to LANs abroad from Russia are sometimes make it unworthy or too resource-consuming to make an all-in.

A few Russians did attend foreign LANs, but those guys had (and have) pretty nicely money-loaded families (Cooller, Lexer), and others were just lucky to collect enough donations or support from sponsors (Evil even barely made it last year and probably had to return a good buck to those who loaned him the dough).
Some made a one-time all-in and got the idea that it's too money-consuming procedure for them, although all those events are damn cool places to be.

Furthermore - the situation with visas, travel expenses and stuff just got a tiny-tiny bit better in the past few years, but before that - it was a total pain in the ass, and one had to make the moves half-a-year (or more) before the abroad event to even have a non-zero chance of getting to a LAN.

(trivia: the average salary in Russia outside of Moscow these days is less than $1000, most likely around $500.
- "How come he hasn't attended to any European or US lan"... come again?)

It's seems easier to get to EU from RF now, for sure, but again - non-Moscow dwellers are heavily restricted in their money stacks. Cooller is pretty much the only pro Russian Quaker who's problem of getting to LANs is not the money, but mostly time and his wife))).

Evil is around the Moscow region, but it seems that he has to work pretty hard to even pay his everyday expenses. As for cup winnings - do you expect a young man, sound in body and mind, to carefully collect his yearly winnings just to spend them for a chance to win at qcon?
Tell you what - he's got real life, girls, friends and stuff - it's not like he's sitting in a dark cellar with glowing screen and with all his thoughts concentrated on Qcon.
He'll have to stay in Russia this July if infiplay won't sponsor him for travelling abroad.

As for Ash, Agent and all the guys with similar situation of no-big-buck behind them - they did attend to every Russian LAN they could afford to go, and seeing how Russians dominate the cups right now - don't you please fucking tell me of 'cheating' or 'non-deserved' top ranks.
The guys you're talking about have proved themselves on LANs, winning and stomping each other back and forth. With variable success, maybe, but still - it's THEM, who're dominating the scene right now, and they fought with the best of the best on LANs.

If you forgot what Russian LANs were - recollect your memories of ASUS events and such.

Can anyone show me an example of something like this happening in any official Tournament of any esports or any other competetive sport ever before ? I guess not, because random winner picking happens nowhere ! If Agent had played the finals and forfeited every game after 1 minute, ash wouldve won the Tournament too...forfeit is forfeit...no matter when and how or why !!
If Agent is on 3rd Place now, you count all the matches he played before evil but the evil matches you count out - there is nothing to discuss here..evil did not win Faceit Cup No.10 and no one will disagree !
Is there any evil favouring going on here ? Last week, evil won by forfeit after cypher was leading 6:0 without having to play another final.. cypher lost his elo due to that match ! But a few days later evil lost to drejk by forfeit at almost the same score leading 7:0 but the qlranks guys put his elo back up manually to where it was before the game...today admins pretend evil won a tournament after losing 2 straight maps to zero in the semi final....whats wrong here ??? Pls Stop that

I thought i had to blame everyone for that sunday cup decision making today...but i guess since even the admins admitted having done a mistake promoting evil to the final by custom, there is nothing to say more than thank you for all the effort your putting in those online tournaments and even dealing with criticism, which is an also very important talent, especially at days like this ;-)
As for agent, being the best player today beating evil and prolly also ash, its a shame that he had to throw it away for his political statement, but i have no right to decide who is correct in this case..i just hope that agent, being not banned, takes this certanly last chance for himself and plays another great final next week beating evil again.
For the rule - standings it is ash, agent, evil/cypher but for the skill standings it was agent, evil, ash/cypher and that is what we should hope for...really good games in the future of people that can put a challege to beat evil - thats also why agent should not be banned yet but it can definatly not happen ever again thats for sure...

I just found out some ppl are utterly UNGRATEFUL to Faceit to say the LEAST.

You guys should be thankful for all the cup that went smootly and provided hours and hours of fun....

A sand grain on the gearbox after more or less everything running smoothly and everyone going apeshit???? Are you fkn kidding me?

Calling faceit and roychez retarded etc (everyone can do mistakes wtf?) for a russian guy barely understanding english creating a whole problem cause he didnt know he had to redeem the money???

He created the mess by forfeiting (because apparently "faceit didnt give him the money" although he just could not press a button to ask for it...). Everything comes from him and it's not the first time.

I would be roychez/faceit it would be "oh, u take it this way? fine GTFO NOW with your stupid game and find another "sponsor" to give you more than 150$ every fkn week for a game ppl barely play". You will be lucky if faceit keeps on with ql.

hello my friend, I can see the future, so let me tell you what kind of replies you're going to get

"oh so we have to bow to roychez and faceit because they organize a few boring shitty cups (that I keep watching but that's irrelevant) ?"

"you're french, what do you know about fairplay and gratefulness ? you hate americans even though they saved your asses 70 years ago"

"you're retarded, agent shouldn't have to press a button, OF COURSE he wants the money, you think he plays to entertain you ?"

"omg fuck you, go back to ut, why are you even here ?"

overreactions and hasty judgements all around, what else is new ?
I thought the drama was entertaining, roychez admitted his mistake and kept his cool when under fire, let's just move on

people will probably remember that cup, I know I will. certainly more than any of those smooth sailing ones. it's a bit of a shame that nobody's talking about ash beating cypher or agent stopping evil, but there you go...

You think they would be suspending the cups because of Agent? lol you're giving him way more credit than he deserves. They would suspend them because the viewership for Quake is too small, and they get more viewers running some na csgo league

Don't put words he hasn't said in his mouth. And anyway whatever this whole relation between Faceit and Quake Live is, whatever you guys call it, we are hundreds to watch their show, it doesn't matter if they are making huge profits or if they can't even pay risotto for one employee when it comes to working for Quake Live, everyone knows what this is about, Roychez even said it here on ESR that this is about a passion, so everyone (or almost) knows.

It doesn't change the fact that many people are ungrateful, he made a point, he is right there.

Agent is so good to make something so little blow out of proportion rofl he is probably laughing right now

Since you are very much new to this scene I'll explain something to you: 125fps and faceit indeed sponsor quake not for earning money but because they love the game.

Alexey loses over 10 thousand dollars a year in quake.
Faceit has more than 30k viewers in cs:go and at the same time they get money from selling skins there. In quake they get less than 10% of that and no money directly, so it'd be a better choice to drop quake and focus on cs:go instead. That cs:go money is what makes quake possible.
Quakecon/id lose at least 20 thousand dollars in prizes a year, which may be a minor expense compared to running the event in the quake part of it.

These kind of attitudes from players and from spectators make someone love the game less.

The reason why those two initiatives exist is what some of you new to the scene people didn't see, yet are so vocal: quake was 100% dead in 2012. That situation will happen if both cease to exist, with absolutely nothing going on in the whole year online and on lan, besides quakecon.

Totally agree.
Thanky you very much roychez and whole FaceIt team, you do wonderful work and I appreciate it so much! I have no problem with today´s "problem" - your cup - your rules and we would be happy that we can enjoy it almost every week.

Side note: we are not doing any weeks the coming two weeks because we are "suspending" QL cups. We had ten cups planned for the QL Spring Season, which are finished now, but due to circumstances we can't stream coming weekend, as well as DHS being the one after. So we are doing the finals on the first possible date for us, which will be announced probably tomorrow or Tuesday.

Edit: Thanks for the support to everyone. Even the negative comments might sometimes hurt, I think we have always managed to overcome them and improve upon them. They are needed sometimes to keep us sharp.

You didn't do something that bad... sure, ash as a winner and a showmatch for 25$ between ash and evil was going to be the better decision, but it could be worse as no game at all. We still saw a good match at the end.

Also lets not forget ash sportsmanship. He is a real man and you respected that agrreing with his decision.

IMHO - there's a big difference between being kicked from the cup and forfeiting the match. If agent was kicked from the cup he could be replaced with another player - his opponent from previous stage.
But in case of him just forfeiting his game no replacements should take place. For example - 125fps kicked agent from quarterfinals of the may'14 league, because he refused to play his match just before it was supposed to begin, and if sev3n was online at that moment he could take his place. but - If agent just told me a day before he can't play this week (for any reasons) he would just get defloss and that would be it. no more.

This is such bullshit to be honest. Nothing happened to get so dramatic about.

Knowing Agent is quite the diva its more than understandable that he didn't understand the process he had to follow to redeem his funds. There is no conspiracy against Agent. Agent is an idiot who didn't know how to use the redeem function.

Now on to FaceIt. It changes absolutely nothing if FaceIt would have forfeited the final and gave the win to Ash. It seems in the heat of the moment someone made the decision they made trying to get viewers a final to see. That's all there is to it.

Now to all the ungrateful bastards who are flaming FaceIt here. Shut the fuck up. Enjoy what is left of the online tournaments and most of all be respectful towards tournament organizers, they don't owe you shit.

From any logical point of view there is absolutely no reason to support Quake Live tournaments considering the viewership and overall playerbase. The only reason there is a FaceIt for Quake is because we have that passion for a game with the essential skills of what makes fps. It is because we don't wanna see a world where the only fps games being played is Call of Duty and Counter Strike. We want to keep that small light as small as it is for as long as we can because of general principles.

i dont care about any gaming community (thats the most retarded communities on the web) nor do i care about faceit. just thought i would point out that guy giving lessons to the world on a chair behind a computer.

orly? The guy does what he considers to be right and stuff, and he does it without looking back at the buttbleeding crowd, which is swearing at him - is that what you call a 'personality disorder'? You and the cry-babies like you?

You guys have become too soft - alltimes ready to cry and build up a negative hype, like hysterical women, you're ready to stamp the names on people you don't even dig slightly.

Calm down and try to take Agent's slot next time (by duelling), instead of your poor home-brew 'psychoanalysis'.

Also - given that he wasn't contacted on how to redeem his dough for a year or so - it's no wonder that he's rather chosen to give defwin to Ash, his good friend, just because he was pretty sure that he himself won't be able to get any money whatsoever.

The thing that Ash have chosen to fight Evil is quite a different story. You guys are too quick to entangle all your negative hype into a singularity of hatred.

They're slow to pay out and need constant spamming in hopes you'll find the one day when they don't tell you to come back next week. And with Agent's English I'm not surprised he wasn't able to do it at all.

wouldn't take a huge amount of time to generate an email or so saying "congratulations to your win! go to faceit.com and use the redeem function to receive your prize money" the first (few) time(s) a player wins something.

Picmip config + Agent owning evil and then drama, drama, drama... We need more of this. If only strenx would come back and add his diva drama to the mix, then we'd have some real entertainment along with HQ Quake :DDD

The point is that every time agent is in the spotlight he acts like one.

To be honest I don't really mind about him. The only thing is that he constantly ruins community efforts, 125fps, faceit and qlranks for example all of which are quite expensive and taxing to run. Luckily he's been sanctioned many times in two of those and at this rate he probably won't be accepted anymore, which he rather deserves with his 'record'.