I still didn't have the time to update my introduction, so I'll ask every new poster to read the intro of the OTTT #4 before posting something.

Don't repeat the requests that were post in the last thread, I have them in note, and I'll put the transcriptions here when they are ready.

Actually there are important delays, I have to organize many things in my life (yeah, I actually have a life ! haha), and I'm sorry about it. I work on that point.

Concerning the Official Tengwar Transcription Thread - VITo all the newbees, Welcome to TORC ! Before posting anything on this thread, READ THE INTRODUCTION. For now, I didn't have the time to update the intro, so I let you read the intro of thread #IV here.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask in the threads or by email (isildilme@hotmail.com - write "Tengwar" somewhere in the subject in case you fall in my junkmail, because if I don't know, I wont open the message !). Note that I don't accept transcription requests by email, you have to post them here !

You can address yourself to me in French, Spanish or English as you wish.

Special message : I have now two precious sons. They are my priorities, and an additional explanation for the delays in my answers. I WILL answer you... but you might have to wait. Thank you for your comprehension.

Concerning the Official Tengwar Transcription Thread - VITo all the newbees, Welcome to TORC ! Before posting anything on this thread, READ THE INTRODUCTION. For now, I didn't have the time to update the intro, so I let you read the intro of thread #IV here.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask in the threads or by email (isildilme@hotmail.com - write "Tengwar" somewhere in the subject in case you fall in my junkmail, because if I don't know, I wont open the message !). Note that I don't accept transcription requests by email, you have to post them here !

You can address yourself to me in French, Spanish or English as you wish.

Special message : I have now two precious sons. They are my priorities, and an additional explanation for the delays in my answers. I WILL answer you... but you might have to wait. Thank you for your comprehension.

As promised, my reactions and answers to the most recent posts of the preceeding thread :

AlyxPayne : it was indeed TA-I+B font ! no problem !

candenizli4 : hmmm, you already posted that ! But you are not to blame, you might think that I forgot you, because it was long ago. You are the next in my list.

UnequivocalGrace : just a quick question : Tengwar italic is not a font… there is a missing word in the middle ! Go back in the introduction (link in my signature).

Mariad03 : you can go ahead with this transcription, it’s good !

Kimberry : Sorry for this delay ! You are the 2nd on my list now. Wont be long. But is it already too late ? I would like to have it done for Monday… I hope it’s ok… and don’t worry, I understand your post and what you mean, and I'm the first to blame myself about the delays.

Lothario : it’s ok now

kzinff : how nice are you to tell me this . It will be a pleasure to help. If I have questions about Portuguese when I’ll be working on the names, I’ll tell you, but I already did Portuguese transcriptions in the past, should be ok !

Raw2015 : Perfect ! Sorry about Miami, you might already be gone as it was over 10 days ago… but you’ll have a good reason for another trip

Ayurwen : You ask for Tengwar Annatar and Tengwar tehtar, but the last is not a font. If you are just asking me to use a Tengwar/tehtar mode, no problem, but if you are talking about a font, please check the name in the introduction (line in my signature) to be sure that I know what you want.

sarahannmichelle : perfect !

maxehren : perfect. I kept just the first sentence, as you suggested in your answer to Alma

Concerning the Official Tengwar Transcription Thread - VITo all the newbees, Welcome to TORC ! Before posting anything on this thread, READ THE INTRODUCTION. For now, I didn't have the time to update the intro, so I let you read the intro of thread #IV here.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask in the threads or by email (isildilme@hotmail.com - write "Tengwar" somewhere in the subject in case you fall in my junkmail, because if I don't know, I wont open the message !). Note that I don't accept transcription requests by email, you have to post them here !

You can address yourself to me in French, Spanish or English as you wish.

Special message : I have now two precious sons. They are my priorities, and an additional explanation for the delays in my answers. I WILL answer you... but you might have to wait. Thank you for your comprehension.

Concerning the Official Tengwar Transcription Thread - VITo all the newbees, Welcome to TORC ! Before posting anything on this thread, READ THE INTRODUCTION. For now, I didn't have the time to update the intro, so I let you read the intro of thread #IV here.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask in the threads or by email (isildilme@hotmail.com - write "Tengwar" somewhere in the subject in case you fall in my junkmail, because if I don't know, I wont open the message !). Note that I don't accept transcription requests by email, you have to post them here !

You can address yourself to me in French, Spanish or English as you wish.

Special message : I have now two precious sons. They are my priorities, and an additional explanation for the delays in my answers. I WILL answer you... but you might have to wait. Thank you for your comprehension.

Concerning the Official Tengwar Transcription Thread - VITo all the newbees, Welcome to TORC ! Before posting anything on this thread, READ THE INTRODUCTION. For now, I didn't have the time to update the intro, so I let you read the intro of thread #IV here.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask in the threads or by email (isildilme@hotmail.com - write "Tengwar" somewhere in the subject in case you fall in my junkmail, because if I don't know, I wont open the message !). Note that I don't accept transcription requests by email, you have to post them here !

You can address yourself to me in French, Spanish or English as you wish.

Special message : I have now two precious sons. They are my priorities, and an additional explanation for the delays in my answers. I WILL answer you... but you might have to wait. Thank you for your comprehension.

For Laura_Lou28 : I don’t remember what I told you before but there are many “good” ways to write these words, according to the interpretation of the rules that Tolkien gave us (because even him changed many times the way English can be written with Tengwar). Here is one.

Concerning the Official Tengwar Transcription Thread - VITo all the newbees, Welcome to TORC ! Before posting anything on this thread, READ THE INTRODUCTION. For now, I didn't have the time to update the intro, so I let you read the intro of thread #IV here.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask in the threads or by email (isildilme@hotmail.com - write "Tengwar" somewhere in the subject in case you fall in my junkmail, because if I don't know, I wont open the message !). Note that I don't accept transcription requests by email, you have to post them here !

You can address yourself to me in French, Spanish or English as you wish.

Special message : I have now two precious sons. They are my priorities, and an additional explanation for the delays in my answers. I WILL answer you... but you might have to wait. Thank you for your comprehension.

!ISAIAH!, working on your transcription, I realised that you didn't tell me what font you wanted (or maybe did I I miss the information ?!). Waiting for this to complete.

Concerning the Official Tengwar Transcription Thread - VITo all the newbees, Welcome to TORC ! Before posting anything on this thread, READ THE INTRODUCTION. For now, I didn't have the time to update the intro, so I let you read the intro of thread #IV here.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask in the threads or by email (isildilme@hotmail.com - write "Tengwar" somewhere in the subject in case you fall in my junkmail, because if I don't know, I wont open the message !). Note that I don't accept transcription requests by email, you have to post them here !

You can address yourself to me in French, Spanish or English as you wish.

Special message : I have now two precious sons. They are my priorities, and an additional explanation for the delays in my answers. I WILL answer you... but you might have to wait. Thank you for your comprehension.

Good Day Isildilmë,Having traveled around half the globe to meet them, I'm looking to make a present to some of my Australian friends before traveling back home to Switzerland. Given that they are big fan of Tolkien's works, my idea was to print them shirts with their names in Tengwar.Once I startet looking into Tengwar however, I was quickly overwhelmed with all the different approaches and modes and stuff.

Thank you so much for the transcriptions!! They are perfect, you made me very happy!! It's not too late at all, I was able to push time a little bit. I'm very thankful that you used your time to help me!

hukan, your post gives the impression that you read the introduction, but a comprehension problem seems to remain... you say you want the names in the Elvish language. This is not what I do here. I just write them with the Elvish script. If you want a translation first, you have to visit the appropriate thread. If you just want a transcription, then I'll be able to help you, but you have to tell me in what language the names are for you. Please go back to the introduction if this is not clear, and if you have questions post them here

wetterlicht, most of these transcriptions are right. About Joel, I would write the first letter a different way. The tengwa actually used is the one in phonetic transcriptions for the sound of the "g" in "beige" or the "s" in "pleasure". If that is what you want for that name, then it's ok. And for Nathan, the second "a" doesn't appear in the transcription. If it's because you wanted it that way to express the schwa sound (as the "e" of "taken"), then it's not a problem. But if you want it to appear, there should be a 3-dots symbol over the last tengwa, as there is one on the second. So now you tell me : with these explanation are you ok with the names, or do you want me to change them ? And if you want me to do them, do you prefer a transcription that sticks to the original orthography of the names as I use to do ?

Kim, I'm so happy it wasn't too late ! Sorry again for the delay !

Concerning the Official Tengwar Transcription Thread - VITo all the newbees, Welcome to TORC ! Before posting anything on this thread, READ THE INTRODUCTION. For now, I didn't have the time to update the intro, so I let you read the intro of thread #IV here.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask in the threads or by email (isildilme@hotmail.com - write "Tengwar" somewhere in the subject in case you fall in my junkmail, because if I don't know, I wont open the message !). Note that I don't accept transcription requests by email, you have to post them here !

You can address yourself to me in French, Spanish or English as you wish.

Special message : I have now two precious sons. They are my priorities, and an additional explanation for the delays in my answers. I WILL answer you... but you might have to wait. Thank you for your comprehension.

Concerning the Official Tengwar Transcription Thread - VITo all the newbees, Welcome to TORC ! Before posting anything on this thread, READ THE INTRODUCTION. For now, I didn't have the time to update the intro, so I let you read the intro of thread #IV here.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask in the threads or by email (isildilme@hotmail.com - write "Tengwar" somewhere in the subject in case you fall in my junkmail, because if I don't know, I wont open the message !). Note that I don't accept transcription requests by email, you have to post them here !

You can address yourself to me in French, Spanish or English as you wish.

Special message : I have now two precious sons. They are my priorities, and an additional explanation for the delays in my answers. I WILL answer you... but you might have to wait. Thank you for your comprehension.

For alottaroses : Your request was a bit more complex than I thought at the beginning (or it’s maybe just that as a perfectionist, I make everything complicated !). I end with 3 suggestions for the English quote, as you asked me (by email) to stick to a purely phonetic transcription. So the first two lines represent the transcription of the quote as it is shown between parenthesis. But I wasn’t fully satisfied, because with our regular Tehtar transcription mode, there is only one “a” and one “o”, but the “a” in “all” and “that” is clearly not the same, as for the “o” in “gold”, “does”, “not”, etc. But many people saying that they respect the phonetic transcribe that way, so you might decide that it’s ok for you. As I wanted to offer you something else, I did the next two lines. There I used different symbols to represent the sounds. I chose the symbols from the Parma Eldalamberon XX, a publication of Tolkiens notes on Tengwar that was published a few years ago. It shows some of the many ways that Tolkien invented to use the Tengwar. There was a text in this showing a possibility of how to express all the vowels of English with tehtar (the symbols above or under the tengwar). But I didn’t use it on everything, because that would mean to change the symbols for the other vowels of the quote, because at the time Tolkien wrote that note, he used to reverse the way he wrote the “u” and “o” when compare to his later works, and I didn’t want to mix everything. Even with that, I’m quite satisfied with the result. For the two last lines, I used the fully and [let say] final phonetic mode that Tolkien presented through the same publication, with a full mode (using more tengwar and almost no tehtar). The look is different and if you are keen to tehtar, you might dislike it, but I can tell that it respect full one of Tolkien’s modes for phonetic transcriptions. And there would be other ways, of course.

Could you follow all of this ? It can become quite complicated, and as English is not my language, I may not explain it the most simple way ! If you have questions, just ask !

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For the Quenya version there was no such hesitation

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Concerning the Official Tengwar Transcription Thread - VITo all the newbees, Welcome to TORC ! Before posting anything on this thread, READ THE INTRODUCTION. For now, I didn't have the time to update the intro, so I let you read the intro of thread #IV here.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask in the threads or by email (isildilme@hotmail.com - write "Tengwar" somewhere in the subject in case you fall in my junkmail, because if I don't know, I wont open the message !). Note that I don't accept transcription requests by email, you have to post them here !

You can address yourself to me in French, Spanish or English as you wish.

Special message : I have now two precious sons. They are my priorities, and an additional explanation for the delays in my answers. I WILL answer you... but you might have to wait. Thank you for your comprehension.

Concerning the Official Tengwar Transcription Thread - VITo all the newbees, Welcome to TORC ! Before posting anything on this thread, READ THE INTRODUCTION. For now, I didn't have the time to update the intro, so I let you read the intro of thread #IV here.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask in the threads or by email (isildilme@hotmail.com - write "Tengwar" somewhere in the subject in case you fall in my junkmail, because if I don't know, I wont open the message !). Note that I don't accept transcription requests by email, you have to post them here !

You can address yourself to me in French, Spanish or English as you wish.

Special message : I have now two precious sons. They are my priorities, and an additional explanation for the delays in my answers. I WILL answer you... but you might have to wait. Thank you for your comprehension.

Concerning the Official Tengwar Transcription Thread - VITo all the newbees, Welcome to TORC ! Before posting anything on this thread, READ THE INTRODUCTION. For now, I didn't have the time to update the intro, so I let you read the intro of thread #IV here.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask in the threads or by email (isildilme@hotmail.com - write "Tengwar" somewhere in the subject in case you fall in my junkmail, because if I don't know, I wont open the message !). Note that I don't accept transcription requests by email, you have to post them here !

You can address yourself to me in French, Spanish or English as you wish.

Special message : I have now two precious sons. They are my priorities, and an additional explanation for the delays in my answers. I WILL answer you... but you might have to wait. Thank you for your comprehension.

Concerning the Official Tengwar Transcription Thread - VITo all the newbees, Welcome to TORC ! Before posting anything on this thread, READ THE INTRODUCTION. For now, I didn't have the time to update the intro, so I let you read the intro of thread #IV here.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask in the threads or by email (isildilme@hotmail.com - write "Tengwar" somewhere in the subject in case you fall in my junkmail, because if I don't know, I wont open the message !). Note that I don't accept transcription requests by email, you have to post them here !

You can address yourself to me in French, Spanish or English as you wish.

Special message : I have now two precious sons. They are my priorities, and an additional explanation for the delays in my answers. I WILL answer you... but you might have to wait. Thank you for your comprehension.

Note that I didn’t do the last one because the only difference was a capital letter, and there are no capital letters in Tengwar.

In Tengwar I usually use dots at mid height (·) or dashes (-) between the day-month-year. The former represent English “,” or “-“, and the latter, English “;”. I don’t think it will affect the meaning, so you may choose the one with the look you prefer !

Concerning the Official Tengwar Transcription Thread - VITo all the newbees, Welcome to TORC ! Before posting anything on this thread, READ THE INTRODUCTION. For now, I didn't have the time to update the intro, so I let you read the intro of thread #IV here.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask in the threads or by email (isildilme@hotmail.com - write "Tengwar" somewhere in the subject in case you fall in my junkmail, because if I don't know, I wont open the message !). Note that I don't accept transcription requests by email, you have to post them here !

You can address yourself to me in French, Spanish or English as you wish.

Special message : I have now two precious sons. They are my priorities, and an additional explanation for the delays in my answers. I WILL answer you... but you might have to wait. Thank you for your comprehension.

Hi Isildilmë,Thank you for the quick and in-depth response! Given that I didn't make any of the choices that you mentioned consciously, I would love for you to transcribe the names for me in your style. If I could add their last name (Ferguson) to my request, that would be great. Thanks so much!

Thanks so much! It's perfect I know there are loads of different variations of transcribing words but yours looks exactly like 3 others I've found so I feel like I can get it tattooed without worrying it's wrong!Thanks so much for the transcription, I know it must take up a lot Of your time doing these for people

Hi Isildilmë. I had another go at the transcriptions myself, trying to fix what you had pointed out in your comment. I would be great if you could briefly let me know whether those are okay now. If so, I won't be needing your transcription. Thank you!

wetterlicht wrote:Hi Isildilmë. I had another go at the transcriptions myself, trying to fix what you had pointed out in your comment. I would be great if you could briefly let me know whether those are okay now. If so, I won't be needing your transcription. Thank you!

Joel Ferguson

Only remaining comment : for Joel, I would put the "e" above the "l"... so the first two tengwar don't change, the third disappears and the tehtar is placed over the last. The rest is perfect !

Concerning the Official Tengwar Transcription Thread - VITo all the newbees, Welcome to TORC ! Before posting anything on this thread, READ THE INTRODUCTION. For now, I didn't have the time to update the intro, so I let you read the intro of thread #IV here.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask in the threads or by email (isildilme@hotmail.com - write "Tengwar" somewhere in the subject in case you fall in my junkmail, because if I don't know, I wont open the message !). Note that I don't accept transcription requests by email, you have to post them here !

You can address yourself to me in French, Spanish or English as you wish.

Special message : I have now two precious sons. They are my priorities, and an additional explanation for the delays in my answers. I WILL answer you... but you might have to wait. Thank you for your comprehension.

Hi Isildilmë. Thank you very much for your efforts, I really appreciate it! Someone had suggested that the s in Ferguson should be a silme instead of a silme nuquerna in English Mode, but opinions seem to differ and I think silme nuquerna looks a lot nicer

When I was at a very dark and difficult point in my life my brother gave me this wonderful book to read....which was of course The Lord of the RIngs. It helped me through that time and has been with me ever since. I carry it in my heart and when I was studying literature I wrote my thesis about it. For me it only makes sense to have a tattoo from this wonderful work on my ankle. Therefor I want to ask youto transcribe the following sentence out of Quenya for me: Cilmelwa erinqua ná ita carilwë i lúmessë i men antaina ná (which means: only we can decide what to do with the time given to us) and I have chosen the following fonts:

wetterlich, concerning the use of Silmë and Silmë Nuquerna : the normal use is Silmë, except when we have to put a tehta above, then the Nuquerna version is better. All of this comes from JRRT himself (even if he also used Silmë with a tehta above in many occasions). So be confident with your Ferguson

Concerning the Official Tengwar Transcription Thread - VITo all the newbees, Welcome to TORC ! Before posting anything on this thread, READ THE INTRODUCTION. For now, I didn't have the time to update the intro, so I let you read the intro of thread #IV here.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask in the threads or by email (isildilme@hotmail.com - write "Tengwar" somewhere in the subject in case you fall in my junkmail, because if I don't know, I wont open the message !). Note that I don't accept transcription requests by email, you have to post them here !

You can address yourself to me in French, Spanish or English as you wish.

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Question forLothario: I was about to work on your request, but I see that you gave me a different sentence in your 2 posts :

Gin gorin pe drauthathon len gerithon acharn am len.

and later :

Gin gorin pe drauthathon gin gerithon acharn am len

Just want to be sure that the last is the good one !

Concerning the Official Tengwar Transcription Thread - VITo all the newbees, Welcome to TORC ! Before posting anything on this thread, READ THE INTRODUCTION. For now, I didn't have the time to update the intro, so I let you read the intro of thread #IV here.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask in the threads or by email (isildilme@hotmail.com - write "Tengwar" somewhere in the subject in case you fall in my junkmail, because if I don't know, I wont open the message !). Note that I don't accept transcription requests by email, you have to post them here !

You can address yourself to me in French, Spanish or English as you wish.

Special message : I have now two precious sons. They are my priorities, and an additional explanation for the delays in my answers. I WILL answer you... but you might have to wait. Thank you for your comprehension.