>>137217400mc at least has compelling reasons for his bullshit for the most part, kouko is privileged as all fuck and completely dependent on other people yet even then she'll go out and fuck over everything for her own purposes

>>137217269Toradora is shit but it's better than Golden Time, at the very least. Golden Time is all over the god damn place with characters. Case in point: 2D-kun literally exists for the express purpose of being fifth business. He has no other purpose or development whatsoever besides being an "otaku". He actually contradicts his own nickname by having a life. Just one of many examples of the lazy, overall shitty writing

>>137219575It's not about the setting being unusual or not, it's about the way she acts as a girlfriend. Hence why I specified her behaviour. She's clingy, has unpredictable mood swings and only thinks with her emotions rather than logic. She does literally every stupid shit your average 3DPD girlfriend would do (I don't speak from experience but I do observe my friends get BTFO by their girlfriends all the fucking time).

>>137222620> Clingy is more of wish fulfillment from average joes wanting to be desired by a hot girl.>average joes

Also known as normalfags. Of course normalfags would love a character like Koko because she acts like a 3DPD and that's what "average joes" loves about them. Don't put us in the same basket. I'm not saying the show was bad because of it as it has an interesting setting but if you like Koko, you're a fucking normalfag.

>>137222925Except you are not what anime is defining. Harem shows pretty much are: average looking highschool drop out living in a small apartment surrounded by hot girls that cling to him for no other reason outside of "he is kind".

>>137222989The wish fulfilment for the viewer in harem shows is having the choice between girls with different traits. There are clingy girls in harems but there's also the ones that are not totally in love with the MC but have to be part of the group for X or Y reason (i.e. tsundere, deadpan, kuudere, etc.)

>>137223473I agree that the girl being in love for no good reason is wish fulfilment for the viewer in some cases but it's not the definition of being clingy. Koko is clingy in every way. She thinks about Banri all the time, feels insecure about the love he has for her, barges into his apartment, thinks about engagement/marriage after a couple of months into the relationship, etc. Those are all 3D traits that normalfags with girlfriends could easily relate to.

I don't even know why we're arguing. If you were right, Koko would actually be popular among anime watchers and turns out she's hated.

>>137223923You are making the incorrect assumption that love/hate is because 3D.

You are saying that clingy is 3D when Kouko's actions are nothing but pander, because it's an outstanding girl in desperate need of love from a far from outstanding man.

Those are characteristics of things such as harem and your counter was just numbers as if it was a bunch of ugly girls it would be the same for the audience when it is actually their looks and background.

>>137224068If you ignore social class, (which you should considering Koko was just another student in college in the context of the show) then it just becomes regular 3D college drama life shit. Her coming from a wealthy family had no major role in the romance anyway.

>>137225581Linda is one of the best example of /a/'s contrarianism and double standard. I find it hilarious how people call accuse Koko of being 3DPD because she's clingy, but pretend to not notice how fucking 3DPD Linda is, the fucking chronic liar. Fucking hell, she even let that cheating incident slip away.

Reposting here because I didn't expect a GT thread to be up and didn't look first.

What the hell happened here? Did Tada Banri face his self, accept his past and present, and become whole again or did he reject his past self for Kouko's sake? Did the thing with Linda actually happen or was it all in Banri's mind?

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