These are all assumptions and personal beliefs of how things works or how these individuals' minds function. Real causes and effects are likely quite different from what you think. Further unfolding of events will navigate the courses and affect people's perceptions.

I honestly can't think of a single reason why you found it necessary to write this.

Huh?

There was a post in the men's thread that basically cheered the idea of his physical, mental and/or emotional diminishment because he was with a Canadian coach. That was enough to get me cheering for him when I haven't been this season (as much, anyway).

I honestly can't think of a single reason why you found it necessary to write this.

I am just intrigued about your perspective as your wishes are means to future ends rather than ends that you wish for. Maybe it was because you actually explained your reasons but your post stood out as unique.

I am just intrigued about your perspective as your wishes are means to future ends rather than ends that you wish for.

GPF = Means to future ends
Worlds, Olympics = Ends that you wish for.
Kind of natural to think that way, isn't it? What so intriguing about it? I just don't get it. Stupid me!

Originally Posted by ImaginaryPogue

4. Chan - Because I want him to improve technically, which he won't unless he gets beaten repeatedly
5. Takahashi - Because I want him to leave Morosov

I want Chan to improve artistically and get rewarded for that, so I wish him to WIN with two beautiful performances.
I want Dai to leave Morosov as well, so I wish him.........good luck, next time.
Hanyu wins the silver with two clean programs.
Either Kozuka or Fernandez wins the bronze but with some kind of controversy, so we have a lot to talk about .

Lol @ this thread now. I feel like I've stepped into some philosophy course.

My wishes for competitions are usually based on just what I want to see there: my favourite programs skated to their potential and a proud moment for the skaters I've been liking recently. But I'm a pretty "live for the moment" sort.

To me this is a straightforward statement - neither philosophical nor cryptic.

Straightforward statements can still be philosophical. Nothing wrong with that; I was just amused that a thread about where people want Patrick Chan and Mao Asada to place at GPF turned into a discussion cause and effect, desiring something for what it might bring in the future versus wanting it for it's own sake, how much we can really predict the future, etc.

I feel like Kozuka's rise these past few seasons have been negated in his federation's eyes. Firstly, recall that his first senior season was the year that Oda had been suspended. His second season was the year Takahashi missed due to his ACL injury. So even though he did well - he scored well enough at Worlds to contribute three spots both times and actually beat Oda at 4CC and Worlds. But he never really had enough momentum to really clinch that number two spot above Oda. When he finally won his world silver medal, it didn't actually boost his PCS up in any remarkable way (he really should be at Abbott level, not below Amodio et al). And with both Hanyu and Takahashi medalling last year, I'm afraid it's the death knell. He's such a talented figure skater who's deliberately cultivated a wide range of programs (Take Five and Jimi Hendrix, Nino Rota and Camille Saint-Saens) that it would be a shame for him not to have a World title before he retires.

Chan's an interesting case. I enjoy his programs this season and they both have room to grow. But I much prefered Aranjuez to La Boheme and am rather agnostic about his current SP. And he certainly knows more about his own abilities and goals than I. But I cannot help but be iffy about his decision to continue without a technical coach for a long period of time. Partially because his jump technique is good but not extraordinary (his triple axel and loop). But partially because you know - he was talking about adding a quad flip after Nationals 2011. They mentioned in the summer of 2012 that the quad salchow was coming along. I just don't see how he can add those jumps without a technical/jump coach, and I want him too. That's not to say Johnson hasn't been helpful. The fluidity in his torso has improved and his overall projection has as well. But I've always found him to be artistic and worthy in musicality, choreography and interpretation.

Takahashi's one-two punch of Tango and La Strada was going to be impossible to match. And then he did it with Garden of Souls/Blues for Klook. It was going to be tough to match. But his Morosov-tinged choreography is mediocrity defined. I've gotta imagine that there are choreographers that would give up their first born to work with Takahashi and Morosov isn't high on my list.

When he finally won his world silver medal, it didn't actually boost his PCS up in any remarkable way (he really should be at Abbott level, not below Amodio et al).

No, Kozuka's skating skill and PCS are not on Jeremy Abbott's level. This is where I believe Kozuka is overrated. Kozuka cannot dance. His movements on the ice are limited by his skating skill, while Abbott could move around ice as freely and easily as if he was on the floor.

I would rather:
1. Win Olympics than 3 World Titles (but I would rather win 4 World Titles than the Olympics)
2. Win Worlds than 3 Grand Prix Final
3. Win Grand Prix Final rather than 3 regular Grand Prix