]]>By: Genehttp://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/comment-page-1/#comment-567015
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:06:05 +0000http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/#comment-567015David’s Has the best bagels in trump plaza. They are all natural and no preservatives or chemicals like H&H.

If you like bagels, Davids is the place.

]]>By: PDubhttp://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/comment-page-1/#comment-567003
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:00:53 +0000http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/#comment-567003If a conviction on these charges ‘locks’ Mr. Toro’s fate, let’s hope they are grounded on more than a ‘smear’. Ughhh!
]]>By: Bagel Loverhttp://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/comment-page-1/#comment-566973
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:53:37 +0000http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/#comment-566973How much you wanna bet he has a degree from some Ivy League school. That’s what they do there – – teach ‘em how to be a better crook. Zaros has the best bagels.
]]>By: homer jayhttp://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/comment-page-1/#comment-566817
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:31:24 +0000http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/#comment-566817#13-

he may have done what stew leonards in connecticut did back in the late 80’s-early 90’s until he got caught:

when they did cash sales,they sent much of those sales to a hidden location on the premises and never put them on the books.

since h and h is mostly a cash business,perhaps toro took a page or two from ol stew.

]]>By: Danhttp://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/comment-page-1/#comment-566747
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:34:30 +0000http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/#comment-566747Maybe the holier-than-thou attitude at the H&H on Broadway can now be brought down a notch or two, but I guess this won’t help bring down the price.

Cases like this sometimes force the crooks to close down their business, which is not good for the employees, of course, but there are better bagels around town.

]]>By: Georgehttp://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/comment-page-1/#comment-566717
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:03:18 +0000http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/#comment-566717For current prison inmates there is a potential bright side to this case.

Should Mr. Toro get convicted, any half wise prison warden will assign him to kitchen duty.

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So, in a few months time, inmates at Dannemora or some other state penitentiary, may well be enjoying fresh baked H & H bagels.

]]>By: MsShttp://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/comment-page-1/#comment-566713
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:01:21 +0000http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/#comment-566713#14 – re-read and comprehend the statement; the law does not discriminate against long-term stable companies with a stable work force. It penalizes fly-by-night companies with high work force turn-over.

Fly-by-night and/or high staff changes = higher insurance rates.

Stability = lower insurance rates.

Your conclusion is incorrect.

]]>By: Robert T.http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/comment-page-1/#comment-566711
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:56:09 +0000http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/#comment-566711He should also be prosecuted for having the most overrated bagels in the city.

New York, we can do better. The rest of the country…well, you’d be lucky to have a place like this, but NY can do better.

]]>By: Ralphinjerseyhttp://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/comment-page-1/#comment-566659
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:07:54 +0000http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/#comment-566659How do you pretend to close a fake company?
]]>By: John from Westporthttp://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/comment-page-1/#comment-566553
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:09:50 +0000http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/#comment-566553Crook, plain and simple. Do a financial audit of his accounting records for the past 20 years and see what you find. Cash business… While you’re at it, nail his accountant as well.
]]>By: Gray, Germanyhttp://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/comment-page-1/#comment-566545
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:54:44 +0000http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/#comment-566545“The longer a company has been around and the more employees it has let go, the higher the company’s unemployment insurance rate will be”

Uh, why does the law discriminate successful enterprises, providing long term employment? Not to defend Toro’s illegal exploitation of this loophole, but if a legislation encourages such behaviour it’s a sign there’s something wrong with it.

]]>By: edouardohttp://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/comment-page-1/#comment-566537
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:56:56 +0000http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/#comment-566537Considering that H & H charges $1.40 for a single bagel and the shop is always busy it’s difficult to comprehend where the revenue goes.We all know the shop is strictly no frills, the workspace and baking right behind the counter.
H & H also wholesales to other shops.
It could only be sheer greed and stupidity.
]]>By: Grzondhttp://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/comment-page-1/#comment-566507
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:19:59 +0000http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/bagel-shop-owner-is-indicted/#comment-566507What’s criminal is that they don’t put cream cheese on the bagels. They’re good, but they’re not that good.
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