President Trump Readies Pen to Reverse Anti-gun Executive Orders

Washington, DC -(Ammoland.com)- In one of the first pro-gun actions of his administration, President Donald Trump is expected to shortly move to revoke Barack Obama's illegal actions to effectively outlaw gun collecting.

Obama's anti-gun “executive action” was announced on January 6, 2016 — in the wake of Obama's unsuccessful attempt to scapegoat law-abiding gun owners for the actions of a Muslim terrorist in San Bernardino.

Obama's action was implemented as a “clarification” because he knew that his lawless moves could never pass muster under the rule-making procedures of the Administrative Procedures Act.

Under Obama's now-moribund “clarification,” a gun owner could have been imprisoned for up to five years and fined $250,000 for “only one or two [firearms] transactions,” according to a White House fact sheet.

Note that, under Clinton, tens of thousands of licensees lost their licenses because they didn't have “brick-or-mortar” stores.

Now, in a Clinton/Obama Mutt-and-Jeff routine, Obama proposed to imprison hobbyists who didn't have licenses because the government refused to issue licenses to them.

Hence, a hobbyist who bought a firearm one day and sold it the next day at a profit could go to prison for five years. Obviously, the intent was to create such a cloud of ambiguity that gun owners would refrain from constitutionally protected activity (private firearms sales), for fear that they would run afoul of Obama's amorphous rules.

Tragically, in some cases, Obama's unlawful actions had exactly the intended effect.

But, thanks to President Donald Trump, Obama's unlawful action will soon be repealed — as one of the priority actions of the incoming administration.

Gun Owners of America is optimistic that this is only the first in a series of Trump actions overturning illegal Obama actions.

We are also asking for Trump administration action:

Repealing the suspension of health privacy laws with respect to gun owners;

Repealing executive actions encouraging doctors to inquire about gun ownership and to enter this information into a federal health database;

Restoring gun rights for 257,000 law-abiding veterans;

Repealing Obama's efforts to strip Social Security recipients of their guns, merely because a guardian processes their checks.

There is an old joke that goes: “What do you call 10,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean? Answer: A good start.”

The work of restoring the Second Amendment to its God-given status has only just begun.

But the important thing is that it has begun.

Sincerely,

Tim Macy Chairman

About Gun Owners of America (GOA)

Gun Owners of America (GOA) is a non-profit lobbying organization formed in 1975 to preserve and defend the Second Amendment rights of gun owners. GOA sees firearms ownership as a freedom issue. `The only no compromise gun lobby in Washington' – Ron Paul.

1. Several posts here appeared in Spanish, which I assume is the writers native language. I have no idea as to how many people who view these posts read Spanish, therefore once again, how about an English translation please.

2. President Trump is supposedly a strong supporter of Second Amendment Rughts, several aspects of which have been screwed up by past presidential executive orders. President Trump has the power, the authority to kill these executive orders, though one wonders if decision authority might be time limited, I don’t know. How come he has not, to date, exercised his authority, any done away with the offending executive orders?

As to Trump Readises Pen To Remove Anti Gun Executive Orders, he had best quite making noises about it, and do it. TIme is passing, and the window for rescinding previous executive orders is closing. By the way, the extra lgal antics of the ATF remain, standing before the populace, in all their glory, waiting for concrete expressions of presidential disapproval, pardon me for so noting.

An English translation of the comments appearing in the Spanish language, would, I think be helpful to most of the people who view comments here. How about such translation, being careful not to change the writers meaning.

What, I wonder is he, the president waiting for? He has the power to void executive orders of the previous president, though he must do that within a specified time period, as I recall. As for existing legislation, things like The Hughes Amendment, The GCA of 1968, the National Firearms Act of 1934, ridding us of those millstones requires congressional action, the congress needs to be pushed and pushed hard, pushed without respite here,if anything is to be accomplished. If the fortitude, the attention span needed to get these things done are lacking, as I tend to believe they unfortunately might be, then the gun owners of this country deserve the screwing that they have so often received in the past. The foregoing are, as I see them, the sad facts of the matter

I realize this is an old thread but I kinda like Larry the cable guy’s solution. “Dig a trench along the boarder, use the dirt to raise New Orleans, fill the trench with water and gators from Florida” or something close to that.

what about getting rid of all the gun laws & let us buy guns as we see fit. Then any robber, carjacking, rape, home invasion, or other crime dine with a gun gets an extra 10 years add to the crime plus time for the crime added. No exceptions!

Serious subject. Should not be telling joke about lawyers at the end. I have been a lawyer since 1969; I believe in the 2nd amendment & will fight to defend it. I do not appreciate the broad stroke painting of a noble profession whose members wrote the Constitution. Stick 2 UR subject & don’t try to B light heartened at Lawyers expense.

@Barrister, We did not mean to offend you, brother, but it was all in good fun. We in the Second Amendment Civil Rights movement welcome you, and your skills. Go listen to the song on youtube above and you will feel better.

Third try As to restrictions on the 1st A eliminate the 2nd A and you will see restrictions on the 1st. Eliminate NFA, GCA, hell add BATF& EPA put those people on our southern boarder and California to. Boycott Hollywood!

@old, There is a movement to decommission the EPA, due to its abuses, at this very moment. I get the feeling that Congress is in a “Get rid of Agencies” mood. I agree, now, is the time to push for getting rid of the BATFE, the GCA, and the NFA. http://www.youtube dot com/embed/x2G3wGVAnlQ

@Wild Bill: Back on Feb 6 you mentioned decommissioning the EAP. Heard the tail end of a report this evening, about president Trump signing an EO about taking away power from the EPA , concerning water? Can you flesh this out, maybe we will hear about it in his speech tonight.

As to restrictions on the 1st, give up the 2nd, and you will see the restrictions show up, providing we do not do out job at the ballot box. If the communist socialist fashist ever get control of the senate and house again they will sure as hell try because of the scare we have given them this time. To the GCA and NFA eliminate them , put those people on our southern boarder and California for that matter. Boycott Hollywood!

You clearly bob are anti gun. How in the hell is a waiting period going to work? Because the bad guy doesnt buy thier gun at a gun store. So your waiting period is a giveaway you are clearly anti gun troll or out of your freaking mind. The 2nd CLEARLY STATES SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

To bub g
As demonstrated prior and now once again this is a stinking slimy disinformation doo gooder that is definitely an obligatory inbred mouth breather that can NOT comprehend “shall not be infringed”. His elevator is obviously not reaching the top floor. Logical comprehension means positively NO restrictions or strings attached thereto our Bill of Rights and firearms Freedoms unique to Americans to keep and bear arms. The original intent as written still STANDS. Valid then and more so NOW. Especially Today. Waiting periods ARE infringements-not just your irrational inappropriate minor inconvieniences. INFRINGEMENTS by their definition ARE POSITIVELY UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Mostly self evident. The 2nd Amendment CANNOT be INFRINGED. Just what part of the 2nd Amendment does your microscopic pea brain not comprehend bub g? Only a moron can not see that? Morons are deficient in cognitive processing and compehension. Is that you? What good does ANOTHER silly waiting period do when I already have more than a dozen rifles,near that many pistols, a half dozen suppressors and now have 65K in NFA appreciated value bought in the 1980s before the bastard hughes amendment? So I’m outfitted to the MAX way above most and beyond any necessity for your lame brain “waiting period”. So is anyone that already has firearms. Waiting periods are for the doo gooders and knee jerkers devoid of reality or benefit without obligatory national registration. And that is the ultimate goal of doo gooders like you. Criminals will break any law. To make any law only affects us that are disadvantaged by it that would never break it. Not for us. Not for me,either. So keep and cram ur “waiting periods'”and become a “willing victim”. Not for me and a lot of others that DO understand the “original intent”. So then without a valid argument then it devoles into name calling since you don’t have any valid point. Typical. Move to Austrailia. Or Cuba. Or North Korea. Your’re a bottom feeding troll anyway. You’ll fit right in with waiting with their progressive “waiting periods”.
On the other hand, I’ve got 8 LONG years to reverse all these infringements. And it’s going to happen. Like right here, right now.
So, GET USED TO IT…..

This is another slimy example of the necessity to be “reasonable” and be a ” willing victim”. Why only a 10 day “waiting period”? Why not a year? It’s more “reasonable”. A criminal can buy AFTER the “waiting period”. The same rationale is waiting on a doctor. Or buying a house. Or blaming the car for drunk driving,especially when there is a loose nut behing the wheel. Or a pervert pulling the trigger. Yep, a criminal like Fred is going to be “inconvienienced” with those pesky background checks when they have demonstratedly been proven ineffective. Besides, they have NO possiblity of working unless there is preemptive national data base registration as an ultimate goal. Remember, these feel good infringements are UNCONSTITUTIONAL. So Bob g can register and feel real good. And Good Riddance! But NOT me. I’m NOT a criminal and his silly do gooder krap is just for him. And shannun wutts. On another planet. I’ll take my chances as the 2nd Amendment was originaly written! Still valid and 100 percent on the mark today!

You make the silly immature argument of suggesting that a ten-day wait period is as reasonable as a year-long wait period. I never suggested that a year-long wait was reasonable. Only an ass would think that, and only an ass would suggest it or use it in a low-brow attempt to score points in an argument. That’s were we differ; you’re too stupid to really comprehend the concept of reason. I hate insulting you, but you’re the one that took off the safeties. I’d be fine with a three-day period that other states have, but I think 30-days is unreasonable. Yet you stupidly claim I’d be fine with a year-long wait. You really are a moron for suggesting that.

Fred really will be inconvenienced by background checks, but you stupidly say that background checks are ineffective. If they deny some criminal the opportunity to buy a gun at a LGS, only a buffoon would say that the background check is ineffective.

I’m all for the 2nd, but I’m not brainless nor inbred. I’m not a do-gooder, but trying to be level-headed around mouth-breathers is a losing proposition. There already is a registry every time you buy a gun, so your point about not registering in it is stupid. Seriously, dude, you write like a seven-year old hillbillie.

Not trying to hate on you, but my comment was on being reasonable with what I though was fair waiting periods for backgrounds. I’d love a three-day. Hell, I’d love a next- or same-day if they could pull it off. It was never about the wait but about the background, yet you hillbillies had your seizures over the slightest little thing you disagreed with. You and Bill can suck each other’s dicks over your joy at putting me in my place, but you have to know it’s a stupid victory. You really are as bad as liberals.

Actually, the back ground check only takes about an hour. My brother lives in Oregon. If he chooses to purchase a fire arm, he can walk out of the store in about 90 minutes. The back ground check has already been performed.

In Kalifornia, the background check can still be performed in about an hour. The 10 day waiting is a “cool down” period.

I already have a fire arm. I’ve passed the back ground check. What does a “cool down” period really mean?

And there you have it folks. As a retired LEO myself I’m calling you out Bob G as either a phony or someone who falls into the category of “the chosen few”. As soon as you resorted to name calling and refusing to acknowledge the difference between a privilege and a right we had your number and ya know what, your number’s up!

@Bob G, It is hard to believe that you are a gun owner or even on the side of Second Amendment Civil Rights because: 1. You seem to know nothing of Constitutional law, state law, or the inefficacy of background checks. 2. You push the anti-Second Amendment fallacies without deviation, almost verbatim. And finally, when pressed, you resort to insult. Perhaps you should resort to education instead. Can I recommend “The American Freedoms Primer”? By the way, what was your mos?

Wow I can’t believe the post this is a discussion about gun laws and the rights of we the people now I made a statement about background checks .As a retired combat vet and peace officer i can tell you that the law’s don’t work,when I can kill a man in combat and come home and not allowed to purchase a legal weapon but a person who is a law abiding citizen with no experience or training can and we see it every day then you hear about them getting pissed and start shooting,or a criminal gets a gun legal that background check Mean’s nothing.To the person who used very colorful language that is not the words of a solder I expected to hear towards some one who express his views and I apologize to you if you were offended.Bill lee

@BobG, You write: “…You want to have tge right and selfish freedom to just walk in to your LGS and walk out with a gat ten minutes later, but I’m not that selfish toward everyone else in the community; iI’d rather have a ten-day inconvenience…” Me wanting my freedom is not selfish. You wanting my freedom is selfish. What is a gat? I have many firearms already. If I were of a mind to harm someone in my community, I could do it at a moments notice. What good is a waiting period?
You use the word inconvenience. That is a deceptive description of the denial of my Civil Rights. The correct word in infringement. Oh, and 99% of “Fred the Robber”s get their firearms by theft or from someone that has stolen the firearm.

Look, you’re taking my comment – as seems to be the norm here – and applying extremes to fit what I see as an “all or nothing” position. Set aside the fact that I know an inch equals a mile. Set aside the fact that our legislators use gun control as false crime control. Set those aside and recognize that only a fool would allow absolute unregulated gun access. I know you aren’t saying that little kids should pack heat to school, but there are those that say it doesn’t matter if kids get guns or drunks can buy guns or criminals who haven’t yet stolen a gun can also quickly buy a gun as long as THEY have the unrestricted ability to buy a gun on a whim.

You wouldn’t deny a state the right to regulate driving or alcohol sales or welfare benefits, or immigration but you guys squawk and convulse and piss yourselves if someone like me suggests it’s reasonable to have a background check. You’d be fine if a burglar could buy a gun as long as you could buy a gun at your whim. I’m not. Sure, most burglars who use guns use stolen guns, but frankly most burglars don’t use guns at all. But you’d be fine allowing them to buy a gun as long as it didn’t interfere with what you want.

Gat is slang for gun. Gatling. How could you not know that?

A couple of you represent the worst of these threads; anyone who tries to show the slightest moderation gets attacked as a cave-dweller or basement ghoul or liberal or defective. As ex military and LE who votes R it’s frustrating to deal with you guys. I’m surrounded by anti-gun sentiment, and I try to educate them and try to make them LESS anti-gun, then I come here and try to show moderation only to get attacked by hillbillies that are just as closed-minded and selfish as the worst liberals.

Perhaps I should switch sides. Maybe I’d be better off just agreeing with the anti-gunners if only to not have to put up with the rabid inability of these thread members to see beyond their own selfish needs.

“You wouldn’t deny a state the right to regulate driving or alcohol sales or welfare benefits, or immigration”

Ignoring for the moment that none of those are constitutionally protected rights, imagine the outcry that would result if a state proposed requiring a background check and a waiting period to buy alcohol to make sure the purchaser has never been convicted of DUI/DWI.

“You’d be fine if a burglar could buy a gun as long as you could buy a gun at your whim.”

You’re forgetting that criminals, by definition, break laws. The burglar can buy a gun on the black market, steal it himself, or obtain it via a friend or family member – all of which are already illegal and would circumvent any conceivable background check scheme. We know this because the DOJ has done real research on how criminals get their guns, and it’s not by walking into a local gun store like the law abiding do.

It’s not that we object to any form of inconvenience. We object to laws that have no impact on the criminal element of our society.

One problem with your argument Bob G is incrementalism. It’s what the gun grabbers have used for decades to infringe our rights. Take a little here, a little there, and nobody will notice or complain. Except we do. Finally we got a POTUS that will roll at least some of them back

@Bob G, you are wrong. Gat is slang for the Thompson submachine gun. I think that you have switched sides. You have turned into an elitist. For example: “…You wouldn’t deny a state the right …” States do not have rights over people. States have limited powers and authorities. (Oh, and states do not have any right, powers, or authorities in immigration law…none.) Bearing arms is a right (and a pre-political right, too) the other things that you mentioned are privileges and entitlement.
As to my “… own selfish needs.” I preserve them for untold generations of Americans that is not selfish, but they are needs. But thank you for your service, if any.

Bob G You may not have a problem, ” I have no problem with a fair waiting period and a background check. My problem is – as you stated – the protracted dry hump of politics using guns as the mean monkey that ails us. ”
If you have a FFL close to home and you already have at least one gun for defense, maybe a 3 day or a 15 day waiting period is just a minor inconvenience. But if the nearest FFL is 100 or 1,000 miles away it is a major expense.
If suicide is the issue, maybe there should be a background test before going above the first floor of a building. If robbery and murder are the issue, does a waiting period serve more to disarm the victims than to disarm the murderer, rapist or robber?
Almost 50 years ago, Illinois enacted the FOID which was just a background check that was good for 5 years. Lots of dealers liked that since they had no way to know about the guy who was unknown and wanted to buy a gun. BUT then Illinois imposed a series of waiting periods on top of a real background check the state had 30 days to run.

You aren’t wrong. I know that it sucks for those living in rural areas that have to drive an hour, but I don’t have an answer to that. I said it had to be balanced, so – even if it’s seen as unfair by you – maybe it’s fairer to the rest of us to have a background check requirement even if it means you’re inconvenuenced as long as tge result is that criminals can’t immediately buy firearms. Sure they can steal them, but they can’t buy them. That’s part of tge trade-off, the balance between comfort for some and safety for others.

You cite suicide as if it’s a game changer, but that’s silly. FWIW, many tall buildings DO deny access to rooftops or opening windows because of suicide, so that concern is addressed in modern engineering. It’s still a strawman argument. No one will deny that shooting yourself is emotionally less challenging tgan tge process of finding tge courage to jump. And NO one will argue against the statistical fact regarding men using handguns for suicide. Many, many, many, many more men shoot themselves than jump from buildings.

Again, you cite the example of robbery or murder vs disarming a victim but you do so in a fairly vague context, and it’s not worth trying to argue the point. You want to have tge right and selfish freedom to just walk in to your LGS and walk out with a gat ten minutes later, but I’m not that selfish toward everyone else in the community; iI’d rather have a ten-day inconvenience if it ensures Fred the robber can’t buy a gun. I’m trying to strike that balance between guys like you who demand to have things your way no matter how it effects anyone else and between legislators (and the frightened voter) who sees gun owners as selfish and rresponsible.

No hate, but if we don’t want things to be totally against us, we should accept a certain reasonable balance.

Bob G.: There is no reasonable balance when it comes to rights, you either have them or you don’t, you either are allowed to exercise them or you aren’t. Waiting periods and any other restrictions presuppose that you have committed a crime and you must wait until the government checks you out and, grudgingly says, “oh, well, we guess you’re okay, you can go ahead”. BS! The attitude should be that you are presumed innocent until proven guilty by the State. Remember that novel concept? It just happens to be enshrined in our justice system and blows your entire premise of how we should handle things right out of the water.

We don’t need ANY gun laws, period. We already have laws that cover assault, rape, robbery & murder, whether those crimes are committed with a pencil, baseball bat, knife or gun is irrelevant. Stop trying to make this about the object used.

Hey, wait a minute, how about reversing the EO prohibiting the repatriation of all those WW11 M1’s from S. Korea and any other country that still has them so CMP can be replenished? That fix is so easy it could be done in 15 seconds!

Congress will have to act on some or all of the damage done to the Second Amendment , it will pass the house, but it will be a hard sell in the senate, The only way to get a pro Second Amendment bill thru the senate is for all gun owners to hound the democrats the are up for reelection in two year.

Bill,
Ran it through a translator – very poor translation to be sure. This what came out:

IT IS A GRASTIC NEWS, THAT THE VALIDITY OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT ALWAYS BE PRESENTED, AND
NEVER ADVANCE AGAINST SHE. ALL TIME, THAT WOULD MEAN TO COART THE FREEDOMS OF A PUE
RESPONSIBLE BLO, BUT THIS IS NOT ALL, DEAR LORD PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP, THE OTHER LAWS MUST ACCOMPANY, TO THIS HEALTHY NEWS, WE HOPE THAT IS.

His follow on comment was: FRIEND BILL, MY INVOICE CAN BE READ WITH NO COMMITMENT, WHAT I HAVE TO DO IS TO SAY, IN A LITTLE WORDS, IS NOT TO USE OWNERS OF WEAPONS WHO ARE WITH THE SECOND AMENDMENT, TO OBTAIN THE VOTE, IN NO WAY ANY PRESIDENT MUST INTERPRET THAT THE DEMOCRATIC VALUES SHOULD EXTEND TO EVERYONE FOR THE SAME AND NOT ONLY OF THOSE WHO WANT TO PAY OUT
ELECTIONS, THEN FORGOTTEN, GIVE BACK AND REFLECT WHAT
THEY DID IT AT THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY.PARTICULARLY, I AM NOT WITH THE POLICY OF DONALD TRUMP, WHY CONSIDER IT DANGEROUS, FOR THE INTERESTS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.NO IT CAN BE GOVERNED, HAVING TWO PERMANENT STORM FRIDGES, IT IS DANGEROUSLY FOR THE PEACE OF THE WORLD

Another translator came back with Friend Bill,MY BILL CAN BE READ WITHOUT ANY COMMITMENT,THIS IS WHAT I DO TO SAY,IN A FEW WORDS, IS THAT IT IS NOT USED TO GUN OWNERS WHO ARE WITH THE SECOND AMENDMENT,TO GET THE VOTE, IN NO WAY A president should interpret,that democratic values, MUST BE EXTENDED TO ALL EQUALLY, AND NOT ONLY, OF THOSE WHO WANT TO GET REVENUE IN

As A VET I CAN’T WAIT TO BE FINALLY ABLE TO CARRY MY FIRE ARM THEY TAUGHT ME TO DEFEND THIS COUNTRY BUT ONLY IN ANOTHER LAND HERE I MITE STAND UP FOR MYSELF.AS FAR AS SCHOOL SHOOTINGS YOU PUT AMERICAN VETS AT THESE SCHOOLS YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE A DUMB ASS TO TRY AND HARM OUR CHILDREN AND THEY WOULD SEE AND WANT TO BE A SOLDIER TO PROTECT THE NEXT GENERATION WITH PRIDE .thanks for invite.Bill

1st, thank you for your service in keeping us safe. 2nd, I completely agree with you that our service men and women are the ones who be able to carry. O believe that our soldiers and vets should be able to carry without any restrictions. They are the most qualified people to carry. I pray that our new POTUS will do the right thing for everyone.

If I recall correctly, on his penultimate day of messing up the country, the Little O banned the use of lead ammunition on Federal land. Another EO that should be undone as easily as it was done. And while at it, return the land grabbed under the guise of national monuments or “protected” areas (protected from use by free citizens).

New Jersey as bad or worse than Clafornia or New York ,New Jersey has also Attacked Gun Ranges where Folkds go to shoot (All Lawful gun owners . New Jerey usually passes 2 or more Anti Gun restritions and NJ is may issue State but remains Dem O Rat controlled ! NRA if your reading ?

HELP!!! We need some SERIOUS HELP!!! Out here in The People’s Republic of California. The Idiots are running the Asylum. Seriously, if President Trump and the NRA doesn’t do something quick, we’re going to have to move. Every day there’s something. On Jan.01, 2018 we must register and pay a fee at buy ammo and today, they want to declare Santa Ana a sanctuary city. It seems that the 2nd amendment should be treated the same Nation wide like the 1st ammendment and all the rest. No infringements. Just try putting as many restrictions on the 1st as they’ve put on the 2nd and just see how far you’d get. We need reinforcements now….

Try living in Australia bud. Stuffed gun laws whatever state you are in. Semi auto bans, no right to own for self defense, calibre bans, mag capacity limits, right out of the UN small arms wishlist. We need a Trump badly.

Yeah but its tweedle dumb or tweedle dumber. Our ‘convervative prime minister is so far left he might as well be on the other side. Our only hope is the rise of One Nation and a couple of other right of centre parties.

I’m sorry but I say “MOVE” from CA – there are states just as nice “without” all those dumbass laws that would be happy to have you, especially an armed citizen putting money back into it’s communities. Put the Mexican FENCE back up in a new way, use some of the employee’s of the branch of government closed, & arm them for patrol too, watch the borders better. Have the fence wrap CA & Mexico, hell that’s where most of them F*ckers cross the boarder anyway. Use some of the same ex gov employees to watch Arizona & Texas boarders too, hell those people didn’t hurt me, let’s help them. The ex gov folks that don’t fit into the new scheme of things can take jobs as garbage/litter patrol along the wall/boarder. Let the government employee’s patrol the fence line like it’s never been done before & pay them a cops wages w/bene’s. The gov. employees that don’t qualify to carry & shoot can hit the unemployment lines & be put thru the same system that everyone else goes thru OR get trained to shoot & patrol while on unemployment. The gov. salaries eliminated can go back into the unemployment system funds – problem solved? I may not have it “totally” figured but almost every great idea needs/needed to be refined, reshaped, re-implemented or rethought?

Hell, I don’t “KNOW” but I can have an OPINION & that’s what this is. I’m just an average ordinary guy trying to make it in a newly disabled life.
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In case anyone hadn’t noticed, all the California Gun Laws were enacted by Elected Representatives of the people. How many gun owners refrained, for no good reason, from voting and or couldn’t be bothered with the necessary political action, political action that might have saved their bacon. I wonder.

What about ammo made with AMERICAN LEAD . Reopen that American smelter ( closed by the EPA under O) Get the price of lead down. Battery lead is no good , cannot get wheel lead any more ,imported lead is taxed. WHAT ELSE?????

Why not just decommission the EPA. Send every employee home, unemployed. Let the United States Attorneys’ offices prosecute alleged violations. Make the USDOJ do its job while saving billions of taxpayers dollars. Most of these federal agencies are no more than jobs programs for liberals and hardcore unemployables, anyway.

Lots of federal employees are conservatives that despise liberal policies. If they lose their jobs they will be on unemployment, an unhappy situation for them and the taxpayer. If we decommission the EPA and the entire BAFTE we would be better off offering these people a lateral transfer, maybe to an expanded DOD. If I were still working for the government I’d leap at the chance for a transfer if my job was eliminated.

I really was not considering the employees because the point of an agency is not to employ people. Many of the federal agencies are making rules that have the force and effect of law, that is a usurpation of Congress’ legislative authority. The agencies are exercising authority that they do not have and, therefore, must go.

As much as I would hate to place people on the unemployment rolls, They are government employees. If you want to reduce the cost and the over reach of the government, you have to shrink it. To shrink it, you have to eliminate the staffs as well.

Trust me when I say that many of them are not doing anything.

About 20 years ago, I worked for a government contractor. We produced all their reports and managed all their logistics.

I was the applications programmer who was developing programs to track everything, (Was getting paid a whopping $10 an hour)

When the admiral came down and spoke with the government employees (who were making between 16 and 45 an hour). They were giving the admiral our work. They didn’t do anything except made sure we got the raw data.

@Jim A, the BATFE has a long history of faking evidence in their own lab in attempts to get convictions. A pro-Second Amendment Civil Rights Director would not solve the problem of corruption down to the special agent level. Why not just repeal the GCA and the NFA and send the entire BATFE home, unemployed, saving the taxpayers billions every year. The GCA and the NFA have neither prevented nor solved a single crime, ever.

The so called “Gun Free School Zones Act” is a disaster that needs to be REPEALED!
Look at a map of the K-12 public, private and parochial schools in your city and draw a 1000 foot no-carry zone around each one and you will see that this draconian law essentially takes our 2A rights away from us. Full Constitutional Carry laws are meaningless as long as this law remains in effect…and we know it does nothing but further endanger our children in those zones as criminals do not obey laws and signs!

when that disaster was first passed, I saw a map of my town…. with all those 1000 foot circles overlapping, there was NO WAY I could drive, wealk, or cycle the few miles from my house to any freeway onramp. In other words, either I left my gun at home (how could I even GET IT THERE when I bought it?) or became a felon every time I drove anywhere out of town, or through it.
So I said NUTS TO IT. and carried on regardless. These days I’ll cycle right past any of the schools, handgun in pocket, and don’t even get a twinge of remorse or fear. Without signs posting “CAUTION entering Federal Certified Defenseless Victim Zone Yuo Just Became a Felon if you have a gun anywhere with you”. those zones are unenforceable anyway. End them Evil perps intent on shooting up a school walk/drive right past those schools anyway, all the way to their targetted school. Signs don’t make guns vapourise, nor do imaginary dotted lines on pieces of paper showing property lines.

The so called “Gun Free School Zones Act” is a disaster that needs to be REPEALED!
Look at a map of the K-12 public, private and parochial schools in your city and draw a 1000 foot no-carry zone around each one and you will see that this draconian law essentially takes our 2A rights away from us. Full Constitutional Carry laws are meaningless as long as this law remains in effect…and we know it does nothing but further endanger our children in those zones as criminals do not obey laws and signs!

I would suggest that all public areas of Post Offices should allow carry per the state law. The Postal Workers Union can deal with their problem created by the PMG banning guns to postal workers back in 1964, before the firast postal worker went “postal.” Years ago the mail carriers had a 45 in their leather mail bag.

Years ago rural mail carriers would deliver the mail with a gun rack in their truck. Every once in a while one of them would be lucky enough to shoot a buck and put it in the back of their truck until they could get it processed.

@LesWol, Years ago, we could go into the hardware store, buy a firearm, and walk out with no more paperwork than a receipt. Our freedoms are slipping away so incrementally that is even hard to describe, much less stop. I weep for the youth of our nation that don’t even know what freedom is and, therefore, what to demand! I believe that the beginning of this evil is the rule (with the force and authority of law) making ability of the various federal agencies.

It has to be a balancing act. Modern society may or may not be different from when you or I were you, but I have no problem with a fair waiting period and a background check. My problem is – as you stated – the protracted dry hump of politics using guns as the mean monkey that ails us.

I grew up on a farm. This was back in the 60’s, but I was taught about guns and gun safety, and I was responsible enough at seven to get a revolver loaded with ratshot to dispatch those big scary farm rats that made it past the cats and into the silo. No shit: a rat almost as big as a cat was fighting with him in a battle so bad they punched through the screen door’s mesh. You may not remember a lot when you’re six, but you sure as hell remember that.

Aaaannnnyyyway, I can abide by regulations that are fair and rightious. I don’t think guns – per se – are a God-given right, but I do demand that our legislators recognize that it’s a Constitutionally guaranteed right of law. Many can argue about our nation being founded on religious freedoms or freedom of thought or freedom of whatever, but no one can argue about the fact that our Founders understood the vital truth of being a nation of laws. We have not repealed the 2nd, so it should apply. We can argue about HOW it applies, but that argument should start from the platfirm that it DOES apply.

I live in CA, so our legislators – clearly anti-gun – come up with banal laws that just make it harder to get a firearm. They aren’t banning guns, because that would be unconstitutional, but they CAN dictate which guns you can have, and they can make regulations that guns can’t meet so those guns don’t get sold here. Right now the AR has been deemed as evil because it has a pistol grip, so if you want an AR you must register it in a database or change the handle. You can disable the ability to eject your magazine as well. Oh, and next year we can’t buy ammo through the internet: we have to buy it from a licensed ammo dealer after we pass an ammo-purchase background. But, remeber, that’s not considered a violation of our 2nd.

WTH, right?

I hadn’t thought about this in 45 years, but I do remember our rural mailman using his camper truck to deliver mail to the roadside mail boxes. Every pickup had a rifle rack (unless you were a God-hating communist) so I have to imagine our mailman had one, too.

Get real, “a fair waiting period and a background check” is part of the problem. The Statists are never happy and will always want just one more bit of “sensible gun safety rules” including checks on personal transfers, universal registration, and eventually confiscation.

You make a good point regarding freedom. Hopefully Trump will release the freedom that we should have. The laws that have passed from Clinton on seem to squash the freedom of the people. We need to teach our youth about guns and responsibility. The time may come when they need to shoot to preserve the way of life or life itself.

I visited a municipal Post Office in N.E. Ohio last week and looked & looked for the “no firearms here” stickers/signs/placards both on my way in and again on my way back to the car – and there was no “Victim Zone” indicators ANYWHERE that I could detect.
I have grown accustomed to the evidence of infringement of my Liberties while using post offices ever since qualifying for the State recognized permit to carry, and this is the very first time I’ve encountered a lack of signage at a post office.

The REPEAL of the 1989 import ban by krook lloyd bentsen and daddy bush for”sporting purposes” and such deserves a flying start. There is no logical reason that my old original H and K 91 is worth 3 grand. Besides I’d like to add a Valmet M78 AGAIN to the collection to keep it company. So dump the import ban, pretty puleeez!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a 100% disability awarded by the VA. Unfortunately, it’s due to PTSD. (Stuff I deal with from Vietnam. Am I correct in thinking I cannot get a carry permit or own a weapon for home defense? And had I had one, it would have been revoked?

Seriously, I know the proper situations/use of a handgun. I’m not one of these home-grown terrorists. I’m just a vet. With no malice toward anyone. UNLESS there is an invasion into my home.

Under the executive order signed by Obama, you would not be allowed to own any fire arm if the VA reports to Social Security Admin that you have a mental health issue. The SSA was required to report you to local authorities starting Jan 18th. 2017. HOWEVER, President Trump is rescinding that EO. He already signed an EO to stop the implementation of all regulations.

I would still keep a weather eye open. There may still be some hidden bombs in the mine field that Barrack Obama laid out.

The VA tried to take my guns and I went to my senator. They shut up and no more was heard about it. The bottom line is for this to be legal you have to have been charged with a felony crime, tried, and convicted before you are supposed to loose your gun rights under the 2nd amendment. “Obummer” enacted an unlawful act by this executive action and he knew it.

Edward Allen… is Totally Correct in his response to you Richard. The Scummiest Commie who could not pass his own Gun laws did that to you and your Fellow Vet’s.. He was the Biggest Rat Bastard to ever have walked into the White House. But It sure does Look like Ole Donald will do the right thing and kick these Commie Law’s out the door.. The problem is then what happens the next time another one get’s get to office.. We do need Very Strong Law’s being passed to stop the RAPING of our Second Amendment Right’s once and for all..

Richard, you are NOT out of luck; President DJT will see to that! We finally have a president who knows the wording of the United States Constitution and it’s Bill of Rights, and fully intends to support, defend and enforce the declarations documented therein!

THANK YOU for your service, Sir. Please make every effort to believe that better times are coming.

NO!Got the same(100%)for my grand tours in Iraq.03-04/07-08.See or look up the 4473 form(atf).If it’s honestly filled out you’ll pass with flying colors!Of course if it’s a private sale who’s to know of the “transaction”?I thank God Almighty I got the —– out of nj in 96 and moved to WV!

From what I have seen, he has some good looking assistants. Even though I’m getting old and useless, I would be willing to give them a big thank you kiss. Our Second Amendment is very important, always support it and honor it.

Governor Brown in California has passed laws to make it very hard to purchase guns you like so many now are only for law enforcement officers even a Browning 22 target ported pistol. We have to register our AR’s. It appears if they cannot come and take our guns they will make it impossible to buy them. They are going to require gun manufacturers to have any gun do a double casing stamp of course manufacturers are not going to comply and gun stores will go out if business. You have to pass yet another background check in order to buy ammo and you can only buy so much a month. You cannot get it on line or bring more than fifty rounds in from another state.
You cannot as I understand it leave any weapons to someone when you pass away and many even when you are living can be sold because they do not pass the new double stamp law. I am not sure what other laws other than you cannot let anyone borrow your gun. Newsome who is in San Francisco, CA keeps sending these bills to Brown and he just signs them. Our second admendment rights are bring violated and they get away with it. I think all states should just have open carry with one back ground check or all CCW’s should be as Pres.Trump says go from state to state like your driver’s license. Brown is the worst governor we have had and should be impeached. And Newsome should never hold public office.

It isn’t the governor, Brown or any other governor who Passes Laws, it is the state legislature, even in California, where I lived for a while, oh so many years ago, that enacts laws. Re that FACT, who did you and other Californians who have commented here vote for or put in other terms, who didn’t you all vote against? also, did you all vote and or work for opponents? How is it that Brown came go be governor is another point of interest? Just the expression of an old man’s curiosity.