The wildest shipment of the year just arrived and it's definitely pushing the envelope of patterned shirts. We've received over ten different shirts from Star of Hollywood and Sun Surf. Both of these collections are produced by Toyo, the same company behind Mister Freedom, Sugar Cane, and Buzz Rickson.

These shirts are not only made with the utmost attention to detail (think pressed coconut fiber buttons) but in Japan this release is one of the most collectible due to it's super limited production run. Toyo spends most of the year perfecting the fabrics for these shirts, making sure that every shade and stitch is exactly as it should be and even weaving in hemp in with the cotton at times to make sure the hand-feel is exactly how they need it to be.

Along with these shirts we've also received some amazing bandanas which are made of some of the fabrics which the shirts are also made from, these are available in-store at SESF and SELA. If you'd like to order one of these email us and we'll sort you out, they're available for $95 each.

All these shirts are available now at all three Self Edge stores and in our online store, check the online store for more photos, prices, measurements, and more. These will sell out quite fast, if the online store has sold out of your size there is a chance we may still have the shirt at SELA or SENY, email us or call the stores and we'll sort you out.

Denim looks great...but the bunched up look between the knees and ankles look horrible, IMO. I know that that is the look the kids like, but it just proves (along with exposed underwar due to pants half way down to the knees) that most teenagers have a very poor sense of style.

Denim looks great...but the bunched up look between the knees and ankles look horrible, IMO. I know that that is the look the kids like, but it just proves (along with exposed underwar due to pants half way down to the knees) that most teenagers have a very poor sense of style.

They're jeans, man; you should be able to wear them however the hell you'd like. (Especially if you're paying premium denim prices.)

You are welcome. The saggin' trend was started by guys who got out of jail/prison. In these institutions, one often received pants that were too small and thus sagged. Low hanging pants were also a way of expressing that you were available for "relations" with other men. Once out of jail, former inmates wore sagging pants as an expression of done time and toughness.

Eventually, kids in the suburbs and everywhere else started copying them, unaware of the "relations" implications....not that there is anything wrong with that (in my best George Costansa voice).

You are welcome. The saggin' trend was started by guys who got out of jail/prison. In these institutions, one often received pants that were too small and thus sagged. Low hanging pants were also a way of expressing that you were available for "relations" with other men. Once out of jail, former inmates wore sagging pants as an expression of done time and toughness.

Eventually, kids in the suburbs and everywhere else started copying them, unaware of the "relations" implications....not that there is anything wrong with that (in my best George Costansa voice).

BTW, that snake shirt is 100% bad ass.

Are you joking or do you actually believe this? If the latter, can you cite a source other than your Facebook news feed?

?? I find this discussion or fashion trends/styles to be fairly fascinating, and the history of saggin' to be of particular worth (just because I don't like it does not mean it is not a worthy subject....in fact that makes it all the more interesting). There are also sources that can rebut the snopes claim, but if people are THAT offended then I guess we can chill our freedom of speech and thought.

As I said, I love the Denim shown on this thread...selvidge and the craftsmanship that goes into its production in America and Japan produces some remarkable fabrics. I also think that Self Edge is a well sorted company and wish them success. But does that mean that we cannot, or should not critique styles? Why, then, are we even on a forum named style?

Mark Anthony Neal, a professor of African and African-American Studies at Duke and author of "New Black Man" (Routledge, 2005), which outlines a new model of black masculinity also posits that saggin is linked to prison homosexuality.

According to Greg Mathis, sagging was adopted from the United States prison system where belts are prohibited.[3]Belts are sometimes prohibited to keep prisoners from using them as weapons or in committing suicide by hanging themselves.The style was later popularized by hip-hop artists in the 1990s.[4] It has since become a symbol of freedom and cultural awareness among many youths[6] or a symbol of their rejection of the values of mainstream society.[7]

Mathis also states that sagging has sexual connotations in prison ("Those who pulled their pants down the lowest and showed their behind a little more raw, that was an invitation").

BTW, I meant to say that pants were too large (not to small) in my above post.

Who's jeans are you talking about, anyway? The pair that the model wears most frequently are his own and I believe he is partial to some of the more slimmer cuts that SE carries. So…I'm not really sure if you are referring to him or just making a blanket statement about youth and denim.

Who's jeans are you talking about, anyway? The pair that the model wears most frequently are his own and I believe he is partial to some of the more slimmer cuts that SE carries. So…I'm not really sure if you are referring to him or just making a blanket statement about youth and denim.

In regards to saggin, I was not referring to the model here, as I only saw front shots (maybe I missed other shots). I did notice the bunched up bottoms which are often part of the saggin style, but there is nothing to suggest that the model was exposing his underwear or anything of that nature. I certainly was not implying anything about his sexual orientation and if I gave that impression, I apologize.

Just to be clear, I love the kind of denim that this company produces, but I cannot get my middle aged butt (and I think that the world is probably happy about that fact) into these super low slung type designs. I just wish there was a bit more availability of fuller cuts with a higher rise and a clean line down to the shoe. I like the jean long enough to reach the sole of my shoe, but not so long that it bunches. I have had the most success with fuller cut 7AM, Lucky and AG's that I then take to my tailor for alteration.