Thursday, 21 June 2018

Nazi UFO Model Banned

Revell is a German-American company that makes models that
come in kit form, allowing the owner to build the model themselves; a very popular
activity which several other manufacturers provide. Revell have just recalled
one of their products, not because it has sharp edges or poisoned glue, but for
political reasons. The product is a model of a Haunebu flying saucer, an
aircraft thought to have been built in Nazi Germany that is powered by free
energy and propelled by an electrogravitic system. It was part of an
experimental line constructed by BMW and Skoda, and also at the Wenceslas mine
in Poland. This
project ran from the mid-1930's until the end of World War II. There has been
some questions over whether the machine ever existed, but some very credible
researchers such as Nick Cook, Igor Witkowski and Joseph Farrell state that it
did, and their reasons make sense in my view. There are many photographs of the
craft that look genuine. After the defeat of the Nazis in 1945, the victorious
allies appropriated the enemy's technology as part of Operation Paperclip. This
was a secret part of the same programme that led to space rocket development in
the public domain. See here for Nick Cook's films which I highly recommend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2h6RPcpxvM
and: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWWwzjFNtmU.
The fact that there is a market in the hobby modelling industry for such
products is a good sign that the awareness of their existence is spreading and
growing. In fact another company called Testors has brought out a kit based on
the Bob Lazar "sport model" flying saucer, see: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sealed-Testors-Area-S4-Area-51-UFO-1-48-Model-Kit-576-w-16pg-Bob-Lazar-book/173318790647?epid=1200166775&hash=item285a9addf7:g:yWwAAOSwQola-iXe.

The decision by Revell to ban the sale of their Haunebu
model doesn't seem to be because of any covert attempt to cover up free energy
and antigravity. It is a result of Germany's
obsessive hypersensitivity about the Nazis. This is a cultural pitfall they
have endured since the end of the Hitler regime and it does not seem to have
eased over time. It's interesting to compare Germany
to Russia.
Russians feel no shame at all when it comes to the Soviet era, even though the USSR
lasted for over seventy years, as opposed to Hitler's mere twelve years in
power. The Soviets also were far more destructive and killed a far greater
number of people the Nazi's did. Some Russians even feel pride over their
history of being part of a global superpower, however oppressive, for most of
the Twentieth century, even if they would not wish to see a return to that
period. A spokesman for Revell, which is based in the German state of North
Rhine-Westphalia, said that the company was issuing a full apology and regarded
the criticism they had experienced as totally justified. The company was
attacked by a military museum in Dresden
which pointed out that the Haunebu craft has never existed. There are two
points relating to this statement. Firstly, it's not certain that the vehicle
never existed; and secondly, even if it didn't, does this mean other models of imaginary
spacecraft, such as the Starship Enterprise or Millennium Falcon, should be
banned too? Then the German Children's Protection Association got involved. They
were concerned that the kit was marketed at the skill level of children aged as
young as twelve. The Haunebu flying saucer is of course associated with the
Nazis and it includes some insignia of the Third Reich on its hull; this is illegal under German
censorship laws. The child protection organization also doesn't want the idea
promoted that the Nazi's managed to reach space because this apparently
glorifies the Nazis regardless of its factual status; and they believe,
wrongly, that it is not factual. Source: https://www.thelocal.de/20180619/toy-nazi-ufo-taken-off-market-after-criticism
and: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5860439/Nazi-flying-saucer-toy-taken-shelves-Germany.html.
This Nazi-guilt that lies at the collective centre of modern German psychology
and culture is a very destructive thing, and there are other examples of
pathological behaviour related to it. Isn't it about time the Germans let it
go? It was a long time ago; only the very elderly still remember it and none of
them deserve to be held responsible for it. It's time for closure; Germany
needs to put the past behind them. I suspect that it is not merely accidental good
memory though. There are signs that forces are at work that keep reminding the
German population about the Nazi era to break the nation's spirit. It has been
brought up whenever Germans object to their country's membership of the
European Union. It was mentioned a few times during the recent general
election... and I can't think of any other reason apart from national
self-loathing to explain why anybody would re-elect Angela Merkel for a third term in office. I hope the German
people find a way to escape this nasty piece of emotional abuse. (Thanks to
Neil Geddes Ward for brining this to my attention)

12 comments:

I think you are forgetting a few key facts here. An industrialised genocide made the Nazis a bit different. I'm really not biased just presenting historical evidence. It could be said, could it not, that the Nazis by very clearly causing WW2 and perpetrating a holocaust unique in human history were by far the worst if you want to turn this into a competition. The death toll of WW2 was around 50m and the Russians alone lost 20m lives. 20m Russian lives lost due to the Nazis. We could say that the Nazis started the second World War and the Communists finished it.I don't think you do yourself any favours by minimising the crimes of the Nazis by comparing them favourably with other totalitarian regimes. Anyway just to say that I always enjoy reading HPANWO Voice. Very best regards. Adrian

Thanks, Adrian. Glad you enjoy HPANWO, but I don't agree with your views on WWII. Please see my HPANWO TV recording of Nick Kollerstrom's lecture "Did Britain Start Both World Wars?" The atrocities of the Nazi's are not unique in history, such things have sadly been done many times by many state actors. The Holodemor, the Armenian Genocide for example. The difference is that nobody goes up to Russian, Rwandan, Indonesian and Turkish people demanding that they fall to their knees and weep with shame, as well as destroy their own country, over crimes committed long before they were born.

Hi Ben, I didn't actually say that there had not been ethnic cleansing or atrocities before the Nazis. You need not lecture me on basic historical truths. The Nazis genocidal holocaust against Jews, slavs, gypsies and others was unique as I have already said due to the highly industrialised nature of it. This particular holocaust orchestrated from the most civilised nation on earth makes it unique. The bureaucracy of the mass killing, the mechanised methods applied and all underpinned by modernity, mean that this was certainly very very different than what went on before and since (Rwanda) as we are not talking about backward states but a highly advanced nation attempting to liquidate an entire people from Europe.This Nick chap, isn't he a holocaust denier? I think you should use legitimate historians to back up your claims rather than tendentious revisionists which is my being polite. I do though beg you Ben to address the specific points I raise rather taking a specious line. My critique of your article was considered, measured and I believe fair.

Ade, I don't see what you mean about the Holocaust being unique. What is your definition of "industrialized"? Is cutting railway tracks with electric saws where trains carrying farm produce go not industrialized? Is shooting people in the back of the head in an organized regimented way not industrialized? Is torching cities with incendiary devices dropped from Lancaster bombers not industrialized? Do the methods of mass-murder somehow make that murder more severe, more decisive? As for a civilized nation vs backward nation? Many so-called civilized nations have descended into barbarism before so, again, Germany is no exception. Rwanda, like much of sub-Saharan Africa, is far more developed than it was just a few decades before the genocide. As for Nick Kollerstrom, you are dismissing him as an individual and that is an ad hominem fallacy. Nick has been persecuted for attempting to open a discussion on a subject that is suppressed through censorship, either actual legal censorship or it being tacitly "verboten". (It's interesting how English has borrowed a German word to describe such a mindset.) Whatever you think of his beliefs, it is immoral to destroy a person by taking away their freedom or ability to earn a living for expressing an opinion.

Hi Ben, well I did point out that comparing the Nazis favourably with other totalitarian regimes is not a good idea. Was it 50 or 60 million dead as a result of the Nazis and WW2? I mantain that a continental genocide orchestrated by a highly cultured advanced nation does make it different that is to say more incomprehensible. The methods used as in vast industrial extermination centres make it even more so. I disagree that mentioning Nick is ad hominem as it was you who suggested I read him but I have read numerous accounts of the holocaust both in terms of Auschwitz, Treblinka, et al and on the Einsatzgruppen. Have you read Gitta Sereny's interview with Franz Stangle Commandant of Treblinka - Into that Darkness? Or the memoir of Rudolf Hoess commandant of Auschwitz written shortly before his execution? Then there's the testimony of Adolf Eichmann. Were all these accounts from those key players in extermination just lies and part of a conspiracy? There is overwhelming evidence to support the holocaust. I question the motives of those who seek to deny. This is not a personal attack as you say for I do not know this Nick fellow but I don't think he has credentials as a serious historian. Ben if you can provide me with a compelling case as to why the holocaust was a hoax I promise I'll hear you out.

Hi Ben, not sure if Adrian was attacking Nick Kollerstrom from what I can see but seems he is wrong to believe in the holohoax. I am familiar with Kollerstrom, Irving and others and I'm pretty sure that there was no attempt at genocide. Even the Marxist Ken Livingstone knows there was never any holocaust. There is not one shred of forensic evidence that there were gassings and therefore mass murder. Fred Leuchter has proven that there were no residues of prussic acid from the claimed use of Zyklon B as he took samples from the rubble at the claimed gas chambers in Auschwitz. I'm an industrial chemist myself so I found this evidence to be fairly conclusive. Let someone offer some hard evidence that the Nazis instituted a so called "final solution" and I might rethink my position. My belief is that the Zionists need the idea of a holocaust to put themselves beyond reproach for their actions in Israel and when it comes to their grip on world finance.

Hi Adrian. I know you think the Nazi action is different and incomprehensible because it was carried out by a highly cultured advanced nation. I addressed that point. You have not explained WHY my points are wrong. You use words like "civilized" and "industrialized" and say that they add gravitas. But you don't define those words.I see that you disagree with Nick's views on the Holocaust. That's fine with me. I don't know why you ask ME to prove you wrong. Why do you think I disagree with you? Until we have an intellectual environment where this matter can be discussed openly without the background threats or ruin or jail, nobody can possible be sure. It is a dangerous delusion to think that any debate carried out under those conditions counts as scientific history.

Hi again Ben. Many thanks for the swift reply. I think you have got me wrong and I have never said it shouldn't be debated. Quite the contrary, I said I welcome your views. No one wants freedom of speech more than I. I truly mean it. Yes I may support the well documented established evidence for a holocaust but that doesn't mean that I condemn those who offer an alternative narrative. I think Irving has made some good points but overall I disagree. I'm not even on the left politically and I'm far from being a Zionist or brainwashed. Why can't we have a civilised debate. No law (yet!) against debating the holocaust. Cheers. Ade

Hi Ade. No problem, I appreciate that YOU don't think the Holocaust should not be debated. My point was that the current intellectual environment makes it impossible. There ARE laws against debating the Holocaust. In countries where no specific statues exist it is still a topic whereby debate can lead to severe non-criminal consequences. Cheers. Ben

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