You should only have to do abs twice a week at most, I'm not sure what the above poster is talking about. One of the big myths about abs is that quantity = quality. Read as much as you can about mastering your diet, and work hard in the gym and abs won't be an issue. Your real ab development is going to come from stabilization work on exercises like heavy squats.

Did you read the rest of the sentence? The sentence said that it is a myth that quantity of exercise equals quality of abs. That's fine if you don't believe me, but I would be willing to bet that I have much more experience with this than you do. Keep doing your thousands of crunches and see how that works out for you.

Did you read the rest of the sentence? The sentence said that it is a myth that quantity of exercise equals quality of abs. That's fine if you don't believe me, but I would be willing to bet that I have much more experience with this than you do. Keep doing your thousands of crunches and see how that works out for you.

crunches do work for quality of abs

i do it all the time.... matched with a good diet and some sprints, i have no problem getting down to 8% bf

Originally Posted by alwaysgaining

I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up

If you want abs, you can crunch till the cow's come home or run until your legs fall off. Not necessary. Diet controls all. NUFF SAID

i agree to an extent... but i also disagree

-when you increase blood flow to a muscle group during exercise, the high level of adrenal hormones in the blood stream act forcefully on the fat tissue surrounding the working muscle. This increase allows the proximity fat deposits to be broken down quickly and used as an energy source by the working muscle....

so youre wrong... but if your diet isnt in check, your beat

Originally Posted by alwaysgaining

I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up

Like I said before my man, you can crunch UNTIL THE COWS COME HOME, or run till your legs fall off but you will not get abs. NUff said = There is no arguement, it's 100% true. HAHA you can't spot reduce my friend, quit reading childrens books! Oh BTW, there's your response.

Like I said before my man, you can crunch UNTIL THE COWS COME HOME, or run till your legs fall off but you will not get abs. NUff said = There is no arguement, it's 100% true. HAHA you can't spot reduce my friend, quit reading childrens books! Oh BTW, there's your response.

Children's books? That just came straight out of the NSCA book...You didn't even address any of the points I made in my last post.... while spot reduction isn't possible, something LIKE it is.... BTW I think I would know, I've been as low as 4% bf and I'm a trainer.... Your probably some smelly high-school kid going around parroting bullshiit with nothing to back what you say.. please address my last post

OP, I wouldn't guess that you're 20%, but it depends on what you weigh. If you're smaller, then it makes sense.

What I'm getting at is that you don't look like you have tons of fat to lose; and it shouldn't be too terribly difficult to make some positive changes.

hey bro, i'm 148lb and 175cm height...
some cardio with workouts will help me put some mass and lose some fat?
i'm trying to do what they said before...some cardio (twice per week) with workout (i'll put my workout routine on workout log, soon)

hey bro, i'm 148lb and 175cm height...
some cardio with workouts will help me put some mass and lose some fat?
i'm trying to do what they said before...some cardio (twice per week) with workout (i'll put my workout routine on workout log, soon)

thx

At your size, I'd work mostly on putting on mass, even though they put your BF% at 20. The reason I'd personally do that is because you should be able to burn some decent fat at the same time. Just lift heavy, keep intensity up (rest time down) and add in cardio when applicable. I wouldn't go with a set number so to speak; just do it based on how you feel and your results.

Psalm 34:10 - "The lions may grow weak and hungry, but those who seek the Lord lack no good thing."

At your size, I'd work mostly on putting on mass, even though they put your BF% at 20. The reason I'd personally do that is because you should be able to burn some decent fat at the same time. Just lift heavy, keep intensity up (rest time down) and add in cardio when applicable. I wouldn't go with a set number so to speak; just do it based on how you feel and your results.

What midwestbeast said. Your bodyfat is high because your lean mass is so low. If you add more mass your BF% will be lower because it is a percent of total body mass. Plus as a newbie you can build muscle and lose some fat. Lift heavy and hard, dont sacrifice form for weight and eat, eat, eat.