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“In fact even when there is not a single outward symptom of trouble, a person may be in a state of vitamin C deficiency more dangerous than scurvy itself. When such a condition is not detected, and continues uncorrected, the teeth and bones will be damaged, and what may be even more serious, the blood stream is weakened to the point where it can no longer resist or fight infections not so easily cured as scurvy.” –Food and Life Yearbook 1939, U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Vitamin C has been a long-time favorite supplement for many and for very good reasons. It is the one thing that has made the whole difference for detox purposes, but it has also saved the lives of many around the world. It has regained popularity recently as a DNA protector from free radical damage in workers with severe radiation exposure at the Fukushima nuclear plant, where workers had no significant change in both free DNA and overall cancer risk when supplemented with vitamin C.

Vitamin C also helps manufacture collagen, vital for the health of all our tissues and the repair of blood vessels, teeth, joints and bones. It also helps to normalize blood pressure, heal degenerative diseases and prevent premature aging. It is vital so our immune system can fight viruses, bacteria and other microbes. Vitamin C is also important in the synthesis of brain chemicals such as our happy mood neurotransmitter – serotonin.

Megadose Vitamin C

Nobel Prize winner, Linus Pauling and Dr. Irwin Stone have helped pioneer the concept of orthomolecular medicine which uses megadose vitamin therapy – vitamin C in doses higher than those required for normal cellular functions. When taken in very high doses (10 or 100 grams or more per day, depending upon the person’s requirements and illness) vitamin C fights off serious illness. For instance, when the body is challenged by cancer, colds, toxicity or diseases, we are overwhelmed with free radical production. This is when our requirements of vitamin C increases. Read about Vitamin C’s Historical and Miraculous Record.

Mainstream medicine remains in the dark when it comes to knowledge about vitamin C despite the miraculous effects it has had on people whose prognosis was fatal. Vitamin C or ascorbic acid, is something you want to have in your medical cabinet, as it can save your life as it had done so for so many people around the world. Vitamin C is also the best thing so far for adrenal support during very stressful times and/or when we feel extremely fatigued.

As a powerful water-soluble anti-oxidant that we are not capable to synthesize within our bodies, you might want to take 1 heaping teaspoon (4 grams) per day, when you first start detoxifying. During stressful times (either emotional or from illness) more doses are required, especially when you are eating a diet rich in carbs.

As it happens, vitamin C and sugar use the same port entry to access our cells and when there is little to no sugar to compete, a higher percentage of vitamin C gets into the cells making our requirements shrink. This is why our need for vitamin C goes down to the point where most people had to minimize or even eliminate it in a ketogenic diet – a diet based on animal foods and fats. And since most animals make their own vitamin C, it is possible to get enough vitamin C in a ketogenic diet without any plant foods by eating the proper parts of the animal: organs.

Keep in mind that vitamin C dosage should be built up gradually, and the same is also true for lowering the dose of vitamin C, in order for our bodies to adjust to the change. Going slowly also prevents Herxheimer reactions which come when you first start detoxifying. A Herxheimer reaction is an excretion of toxins from dying microbes (i.e. yeast overgrowth), sometimes called a ‘die off’ reaction.

Some say that pregnant women should not exceed 5 grams of vitamin C a day, although early pioneers on vitamin C have used very large doses for the benefit of both the mother and the baby. Large doses can cause diarrhea since excess vitamin C than your body requires doesn’t get absorbed. In time of illness, you can gradually increase vitamin C by 2 to 4 grams each hour until your tummy starts to gargle or you have a loose stool. This is what is known as titrating doses of vitamin C.

The most inexpensive vitamin C is ascorbic acid which you can get in bulk size, although other high quality forms and alkaline and better absorbed versions are available such as sodium ascorbate. If ascorbic acid gives you acidity, mix with some stevia, xylitol or a little bit of sodium bicarbonate to take the bite off.

Unfortunately, with so many medical regulations and drug protocols, vitamin C’s healing effects has remained in the back stage in a system ruled by Big Pharma. Despite this, it continues to help many around the world and it is starting to regain increasing popularity in conditions where no drug has made such a difference as vitamin C does.

Nowadays there are options that can substitute the intravenous (IV) vitamin C therapy in megadoses in the form of liposomal vitamin C which can be taken orally and made at home. If you are interested in getting the benefits of IV vitamin C in megadoses from the comfort of your home, don’t miss this relevant information!

Liposomal Vitamin C

A liposome is like a bag that carries a substance into your body and its cells. It is incredibly effective at this task since it is made out of fat. As it happens, it is the same type of fat that make up cell membranes, making the job of crossing this barrier much easier. Plus, liposomes are super tiny and in that way, they can go through every teensy crack of our cell barriers.

In order to achieve an effective megadose vitamin C dose – for instance, to kill cancer cells – you need to achieve a vitamin C blood level of around 250-350 mg/dl. An average person will typically have around 1 mg/dl on a fairly decent diet. After a 25 to 50 grams IV vitamin C therapy delivered in about a 90-minute period, the blood level is in the 200 to 300 mg/dl range.

Reports say that 6 g of oral liposomally-carried vitamin C is equal in delivering vitamin C inside cells, where it does its work, to 50 grams of intravenous vitamin C.

To make Liposomal Vitamin C, you need an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner like the one in the image. Just type on amazon.com or other store of your convenience and see which size is the most practical one for you.

3 level tablespoons of lecithin.
1 level tablespoon of sodium ascorbate.
Dissolve the lecithin in 1 cup (240cc) of warm or cold water, preferably distilled. Let it soak for a couple of hours or so. It doesn’t have to clump, so using warm water is preferable (not hot!).

Pour both solutions together into the ultrasonic cleaner and mix for around 20 to 25 minutes.

A loading dose, for several months, of liposomal vitamin C is likely 2,000 mg three times a day, maintenance , 1,000 mg twice daily, increasing doses and amounts when needed.

This recipe provides 12 grams (12000 mg) of Vitamin C Ascorbate at about 70% – 90% liposomal encapsulation efficiency. It will keep at room temperature for about 3 to 4 days and refrigerated, it will keep much longer.

Recall that 6 grams of this stuff is the equivalent of 50 grams IV vitamin C. So you can take half the solution throughout the day for a day or two in case of illness. Wean off gradually throughout the days though, so no artificial drastic lack is perceived by the body.

I’ve used 3 tablespoons of sodium ascorbate with good absorption results as well. Three tablespoons instead of one tablespoon as indicated in the above recipe will yield around 16 grams of vitamin C per cup. The absorption of the liposomal variety is about 5 times the absorption of vitamin C straight, so that is approximately 80 effective grams (IV therapy). That is a very high dose indeed! You will have to take that one cup throughout the day though, I doubt you’ll tolerate drinking in one seat without having diarrhea.

A note of caution

Those with iron overload (ask your physician to test for ferritin, transferrin, TIBC and iron) should keep in mind that vitamin C increases the absorption of iron into the body, especially in the heart where it can cause heart failure, palpitations and others. Ferritin levels should be ideally less than 80 and transferrin saturation should be less than 40%. If you are above those levels, you might want to donate some blood or refer to the Iron Disorders Institute. A great book on the subject is The Elephant Iron by Roberta Crawford.

I’m a former heart surgeon who after learning all about the heart and repairs of same from a strictly mechanical point of view, had decided to embark on a healing journey. I was born into a mixed Eastern-Western family and I’ve had the amazing opportunity to live in several countries. I currently work as a countryside family doctor and I spend my time researching all things related to health and wellness and the true nature of our world.

Comments

Dr Segura,
Interesting when you say, “As it happens, vitamin C and sugar use the same port entry to access our cells …”
So you are saying that Vitamin C adsorption into a cell is dependent upon insulin and insulin receptor sites on the cell wall? This, if true is very useful information especially when vinegar and cinnamon dramatically improve insulin sensitivity!
….Is this true and do you have any links that may be useful to me?

I was worried after having experienced “Ferro-toxicty” that my glucose management may have been compromised. I purchased an insulin monitor and experimented daily for several weeks. After a few beers on an empty stomach my insulin levels spiked dramatically. When I took about 4 tablespoons of vinegar with water the insulin level would crash within a half hour, often to the point of hypoglycemia!
If Vitamin C uses the same receptor sites and is dependent upon insulin sensitivity, then adsorption of Vitamin C might be as easy to enhance as consuming some vinegar before hand! :)
…I love you!

RobertMarch 10, 2017

Just tried it again.
Three Heineken Beers(11.5 grams of sugar per beer) on an empty stomach and I got an insulin level of 7.7 mMol/L
I took 4 tablespoons of vinegar, a shot of Ceylon cinnamon/vodka tincture, and 10 grams of ascorbic acid mixed with 2 teaspoons of soy lecithin(blended in a blender).
A half hour later the insulin level was 4.6 mMol/L, even after continuing to drink another 2 Heinekens in that time!
I think we need to boost the insulin levels first using sugar to hyperglycemia or near hyperglycemia, and then pull the switch! Bodybuilders have long known about this when they want to enhance amino acid adsorption using a high glycemic meal. The difference is the vinegar that turbocharges the uptake once the insulin level peaks!
It works for amino acids, and sugars, it should work for Vitamin C also! :)

RobertMarch 10, 2017

If after this I don’t get watery stool! My theory will have been proven! Let you know in a few hours! :)

Repeated the 10 gram dose of ascorbic acid 6 hours later, but used grapefruit juice to peak the insulin with instead. It’s 14 hours now after the first dose, 20 grams in total, and I am still completely dry! :)

If you want the 100% guarantee of a pharmaceutical product, go ahead and buy it. Nevertheless, people have reported anecdotical good results with the home-made version and pharmaceutical companies can’t refute that.

EddieMarch 10, 2017

In regards to the vinegar and cinnamon for insulin sensitivity, is there a specific protocol on how much to take daily? Thank you.

I find cinnamon/vodka tincture works and very well but only when not used very often. Vinegar however works time after time after time. I use about 4 tablespoons and mix it with water!

RobertMarch 13, 2017

Dr Segura,
What your recipe is lacking is consideration of the behavior of “Hydrophillic’ and ‘Hydrophobic’ molecules in an aqueous solution. If there is a single underlying principle that enables bio-chemistry it is this!
Hydrophiic molecules attract other hydrophilic molecules and so do hydrophobic molecules attract other hydrophobic molecules.
When aqueous phospholipids are exposed to a hydrophobic molecule like ‘Curcumin” the encapsulation is straight forward with the tails arranging to contact the curcumin and encapsulate the molecule in a simple phospholipid encirclement. This of course creates an entrophic minimum from the self-arranging, self-assembling assembly!
But when you have a hydrophilic molecule like ascorbic acid, then the phospholipid encapsulation has to go to another degree of complexity, the phospholipid by-layer!
To achieve the entrophic minimum and encapsulate vitamin C in phospholipids then you need to encapsulate it with this by-layer and form the by-layer first!
Your method falls short in that you need to form the bylayer first using the ultrasonic energy, and then add the vitamin C after.
Finish off with ice cubes in the mixture to further encourage the vesicle formation …And “Poof!”

What is the forât bylayer? How you encapsulate the vitamine c un the phospholipid?
I mix the c with alcool to préventive oxidation then i mix my phospholipid lécithine non gmo,then i pour both in a glass recopient that i pour in the ultrasonic. 25 min

i am contacting you from Greece :)
i am really interesting on making this recipe, but i have 3 questions, if you could answer me please.

1. may i use something else for lecithin?
2. may i have some characteristics of which type of ultrasound cleaner is best to use?
3. and at the repice when you say ” Pour both solutions together into the ultrasonic cleaner…”
you mean that i mix both liquids into a bowl ( glass – plastic ?? ) and then i put the bowl in the ultrasound?

You can use sunflower lecithin, the consistency would be only slightly different. Invest in the ultrasonic cleaner within your budget, no reason to spend a lot of money. You can pre-mix both solutions in a bowl and then pour it on the ultrasonic cleaner for final mixing. Best!

fyi … the riordan clinic has dome over 40,000 IVC infusions … much higher doses than this will do and they’ve never had a problem with iron overload. it’s at best a hypothetical issue that has never actually happened.

I’ve seen it enough times to put the alert, people who are genetically predisposed to absorb more iron and who take high doses of vitamin C accumulate iron. Some have deteriorated enough so as to make any vitamin C therapy not worthy until the iron is unloaded. When your iron saturation reaches 40% or more and your ferritin levels go up in the hundreds, you know it is time to unload the iron so your health can benefit.

Do you use liquid lecithin? I’ve been taking straight sodium ascorbate three times a day for 22 days now and Im worked up to 50,400 milligrams a day. My bowl are good as far as its made me more regular and I think it cleaning me out. I had some off and on loose diaharra. Im also taking high doses of probiotic. My stomach definitely is desended. I look like 3 months pregnant and bloated and gasey. So I would like to make my own Liposomal C so I dont have such bowl irrataion.

Does using natural vitamin C like acerola or camu camu affect the pH of the stomach? Thank you.

PatrickJune 28, 2017

WHOLE FOOD C is needed to not only make iron functional, but it binds copper to ceruloplasmin. Ferritin (storage iron) is highly toxic and oxidative. Ideally, you should have a ferritin level of ZERO as you want all your iron to be functional.

Cancers, fungus, parasites ect all feed on IRON. Copper, when bound to ceruloplasmin is what controls every aspect of Iron in the human body. Ceruloplasmin is made in the liver and needs Retinol and bio available copper to make. Bioavailable copper comes from WHOLE FOOD C, not ascorbic acid. WF C has copper ions at it’s core. Ascorbic acid is not only NOT vitamin C, but it has been shown to rip copper bound to Ceruloplasmin from the Ceruloplasmin enzyme.

well this is apparently a Salesman for Whole Food C! he is just trying to talk everybody into buying his product do not listen to a word he says! look up ascorbic acid on Wikipedia it will tell you it is Vitamin C he is a liar!

Dr>Segura:
Thank you for this very informative essay. I am currently using the Pauling Therapy, but I cannot get past 6000mg/day of Vitamin C tablets without great discomfort. I want to get to 10,000 – 12,000 mg /day. I am considering Liposomal Vitamin C to accomplish the equivalence to these levels, but I have a question whose answer I cannot find anywhere. Perhaps you can help.
Eighty (80) percent of ascorbic acid orally administered is lost through elimination, so that, say, 10,000 mg results in only 2,000 mg getting into the system. Liposomal Vitamin C, on the other hand, delivers the reverse; that is, up to 80% enters the system. My question therefore is: if I want to get, say, the equivalent of 10,000 mg into my system, (which would be 2000 mg of ascorbic acid) could I substitute this dose simply with 2500 mg of Liposomal Vitamin C? (2500 mg is to account for the 80-20 phenomenon).
Thanks in advance for your response.

Can i use sunflower lecithin powder, instead of granuels in this recipe? And is it safe to give small doses to an infant who has a cold. She eats some solids but is still mainly breastfed. I have upped my vitamin c intake as well. Thanks!

I have have developed high blood pressure (BP) due to my long term mercury toxicity. How effective would high dosing with vitamin C be for my BP? I know lots of fruits and veggies is helpful along with healthy fats. Also, are there other options for lowering BP? Thank you.

In your recipe for Liposomal Vitamin C you suggest using Sodium Ascorbate. I was under the impression that Sodium Ascorbate has only one electron to donate where Ascorbic Acid has two electrons to donate. I know that Sodium Ascorbate is absorbed through the intestine easier than Ascorbic Acid, but I thought that Liposomal Vitamin C was absorbed differently.

Could you explain why you recommend Sodium Ascorbate in preference to Ascorbic Acid for making Liposomal Vitamin C ?

Hi Dr Segura. I have been making Lipo in one litre quantities using a 1:1 ratio (60g lecithin and 60g ascorbic acid to 500ml purified water each) and blending individually before 40 minutes in us cleaner. I have been drinking 40ml twice daily (sometimes 3 times) for about 6 weeks. Is this too much, and how much Vit C am I getting with this dosage?
Last week I was abroad for 5 days without my Lipo and suffered extreme fatigue from the 3rd day. I resumed taking Lipo only yesterday and still feel very fatigued though it seems to be easing. Could the lack of Lipo for 5 days have caused that?
Your article and responses are fascinating!
Thank you,
Pat

I have read a couple of well known doctors say homemade liposomal vitamin c is good but that it is not “encapsulated” and, while Good, it is inferior to encapsulated liposomal vitamin c. Is this true and if so, is there a way to make homemade liposomal vitamin c “encapsulated”? Or maybe I completely misunderstands!

Hi Barry, yes there is a way. I have spent a lot of time researching it because my wife is very ill and we cannot afford the sort go quantities that she needs. There is a site that is very close to making it as they have looked at Livon’s patent. The site address is: http://www.qualityliposomalc.com/process/index.html
However, after much experimentation I found that this site also deviated from the patent too much by heating, thus destroying the Vitamin C. The site does have a link to the patent so you can see for yourself, however it does take time to see the wood for the trees so to speak. The most important thing to remember is not to heat the Vitamin C mixture more than 25 degrees centigrade at any time as mentioned in the patent. So my recipe is:
243g Lecithin
148g 95 Proof Alcohol
274g Sodium Ascorbate (Ascorbic Acid can be substituted)
621g Distilled Water
This makes just over 1235ml/g when mixed. 1235g (Total finished mix) divided by 274g (total amount of Sodium Ascorbate used in mix) = 4.5grams/ml of Liposomal C has 1 gram of Sodium Ascorbate.
Soak Lecithin in Alcohol for at least 2.5 hours in a lab beaker covered with cling film to stop the alcohol evaporating, pouring Alcohol in first followed by Lecithin.
Mix Sodium Ascorbate with Distilled water (at room temperature) and stir. Leave for a few minutes then stir again. Repeat until totally dissolved (should be a light yellow colour). Pour into the blender jar and cover (to chill the blender jar as well). Then refrigerate (turning the fridge down to number 5).
Ultrasound Lecithin and Alcohol mix for 30 minutes with the temperature set to 50c (using a cardboard holder to keep lab jar away from the Ultrasound machine as it can damage the pick ups).
Then leave the Lecithin in the machine for 15 mins to rest the Ultrasound Machine but keeping the Lecithin warm.
Then ultrasound again for 15 minutes with temperature set to 60c, stirring occasionally.
Have the chilled Blender ready with the Sodium Ascorbate Mix and remove the Lecithin mix from the Ultrasound whilst stirring and slowly pour mix into bender at about half speed, keeping an eye on the temperature by checking the warmth of the jug. This operation should take about 2-3 minutes maximum making sure that the total mix does not go over 25c, as going over will damage the vitamin c.
(The times and temperatures should be recorded for the following in order to keep track of the total mix time (should be 15 minutes) and in order to judge the amount of time to mix).
Refrigerate mix for about 2 hours.
Blend mix on full power keeping a thermometer held in the mix until temperature reaches 24c, as the temperature will still climb slightly.
Repeat the above 2 processes until the total mix time comes to 15 minutes.
Decant into Kilner Jars and Refrigerate for use.
I find this recipe works well with the ethanol/alcohol and takes away all the side affects of taking Ascorbic Acid or Sodium Ascorbate powder and water. You don’t actually need the ultrasound machine according to the patent and I have also found this to be true, but it is handy for making the Lecithin/Alcohol mix fluid although this could be done in a saucepan on the cooker. The ultrasound machine I use is a 3 Litre unit.
I hope this helps

Wow! Thanks so much Peter. I might have another question or two but for now I am just going to say thank you. I really do appreciate it. It’s none of my business but what sort of illness does you wife have? I lost my wife to lung cancer 4 years ago, 100% non-smoker her entire life and I did smoke but quit completely 10 years before I met her so I guess you can get it without being a smoker. Her parents were heavy smokers while she was growing up but who knows if that did it or it was just bad luck.

If you don’t want to share about your wife, I understand completely.

Thanks again, Peter. I’m going to try your method as I am convinced about the value of liposomal vitamin c.

PeterJanuary 6, 2018

You are welcome Barry. I use non GMO Sunflower Lecithin from Detox Trading which seems to be a good source and I also distill the water I use. I have compared the above recipe for Liposomal Vitamin C to a purchased supply from a well known manufacturer and the potency is the same. I also take it as well as my wife and it has given me a lot more energy and a very good sense of well being. Colds are interesting as slight symptoms appear they disappear very rapidly, it is weird.
I am very sorry to hear about your wife, that must be very difficult to live with when there is so little you can do. My wife has Polymialgia Rhumatica, an autoimmune disease which is very debilitating, however we are trying to hit it with a healthy regime of which the Liposomal Vitamin C is a part of, and it has definitely given her more energy and she is also more mentally active as well, her blood pressure
has also normalised. It is early days yet but we have also addressed her PH, are using MSM and Magnesium apart from Mega dosing Vitamins and Minerals.
Anyway good luck with your Liposomal Vitamin C and if you get stuck just ask.

Hi Peter, I’m very inertested in how you make your vit C.
This was the first site I found while researching how to make liposomal C. The information and comments here are fantastic.
I’ve since gone on to try another mix from http://www.qualityliposomalc.com/process/index.html which didn’t seem to work. I was getting very dark brown gravy looking results. I then came back to this site to find your method had been posted. It is interesting what you say about overheating the Vit C (could be the cause of the dark brown colour I was getting?)
I have been using your method for a few weeks now and I’m getting good results however I use vodka as can’t find 95 proof alcohol anywhere. It’s for my brother who has various health problems. Must say, this stuff does taste awful! Thank you for your information, it’s a great help.

Hi Samantha,
Thank you for your posting and your thanks. It is good to know it is working for you. Could the dark brown gravy look be due to the make of Lecithin you used. I use a Sunflower Lecithin powder from Detox Trading which seems to work well. I also found that it works better if you put the Alcohol in the beaker first then add the Lecithin rather than the other way around. The Ethanol Alcohol I purchased on Ebay. I am always dubious of Ebay but this turned out to be a genuine product. I purchased it from beta-farnham for £49.99 for 4 litres. However Vodka will work as long as you make the adjustments according to the percentage proof. I also found it worked best keeping the temperature below 25 degrees centigrade at all times, which is quite difficult as you have to monitor it with a thermometer and work quite quickly but keep the feeding in of the alcohol/lecithin mixture slow as the patent suggests. I also purchased a powerful blender from tower products that reaches 25,000 revs per minute which I use at maximum for the first few mixes. The trouble is it heats up very quickly. I’m sorry to hear about your brothers health problems and hope it make a difference to him. Obviously not knowing what problems he has, I am not sure if what I have found in my search will help, but we have had good results with trying to raise the PH and testing regularly. We have also had good results with MSM. Also Magnesium and K2 (whilst keeping calcium at the same amount as Magnesium) and not raising Vitamin D too much like some suggest. Anyway good luck as it is difficult to see the wood for the trees these days.

SamanthaFebruary 12, 2018

Hello Peter

Thank you for your reply. You could be right about the discolouration due to particular lecithin products. I have been using now sunflower lecithin granules, it’s quite difficult to get hold of. I have ordered the one from detox trading that has arrived. Just waiting for the ethanol alcohol from ebay so I can get started on next batch with your measurements.
Really appreciate all your recommendations, I know it takes time and energy to research and source then try these things out.
My Brother has a leg ulcer that hasn’t healed for 15 months and now has osteomyelitis. I’m hoping the Vit C along with his change of diet and other things will reverse the infection and heal the ulcer.
Sorry to hear of your wife’s health condition. I hadn’t heard of Polymialgia Rhumatica before.
Thank you again for this invaluable information.

Hi Samantha,
Thanks for your posting, I hope it helps your brother. You said he has a leg ulcer and I remember reading in a book called ‘DMSO Nature’s Healer’, by Dr. Morton Walker on page 66, that DMSO has been used very effectively for healing skin ulcerations, in fact any skin problems. There is a side effect though in that even though it is applied to the skin it leaves a slight taste of something like garlic in the mouth. Probably a small price to pay while being treated. I have been using MSM which is made from DMSO and it has cured my hayfever, sinitus, psoriasis and splitting hands, all of which I have had since 17 years of age. I was amazed as I purchased it for my wife not me, but took it just in case. The book I read on MSM was called ‘ The Miracle of MSM’, by Stanley Jacob, Ronald Lawrence and Martin Zucker who are all doctors. Both products are big in America and can be purchased quite cheaply on the internet. They are both natural products. Good luck.

Really thrilled to have found your comments here! I was planning to make Lipo-c based off of the website you mentioned above, but also found the process to be incorrect based off of what the patent actually says. So you have helped to validate that and your recipe for the most part seems to follow it (I do apologize, there was one part that I interpreted differently than what yours recommended, but I can’t for the life of me remember what it was specifically. Whenever I have the chance I’ll go through it again and bring my questions back here to be discussed.)

I did make up a batch a few days ago, but have been put off by the awful taste of the stuff — is there anything to be done to make it more palatable? I do remember the patent saying something about thickened and other additives. Perhaps it’s best just chased with juice?

Also, what is the dosage that you find works best for you? I’m not entirely sure what the breakdown is using this recipe of vitamin c per ml (though I’m sure I could figure out the math if I really put myself to it).

I greatly appreciate your time and assistance! I know how much effort can go into preparing and researching and everything of the like so it is appreciated immensely.
Thank you!

Mike MoritzMarch 1, 2018

DMSO is outright miraculous on burns! I have used it to treat burns on myself and on my wife to great effect. Just make sure to buy medical or lab grade DMSO. Don’t buy the stuff in most health food stores that has a picture of a tree on it. It is industrial grade DMSO, and should not be used. My wife called them to check it out, and they openly said that it was industrial grade, and that it said on the bottle that it was not for personal use. Criminal, as they market to health food stores, and people seeing the happy little tree are led to believe that it is for personal use.

Mike MoritzMarch 1, 2018

Try Manuka honey for your brother’s leg ulcer. It has worked well in many otherwise hard to treat similar cases.

Hi Bay,
Thanks for your comments. There were a couple of ingredients that I left out that were in the patent that were basically a preservative and thickener and a PH adjuster that I didn’t feel that were necessary in the mix, as we consume a batch in a week and keep it in the fridge, besides the fact that the alcohol is a preservative as well.
The taste I love but my wife hates. We take it with orange juice which I think compliments the taste. It’s funny how one gets used to it though as my wife is beginning to like it also…..perhaps that’s the effect of the alcohol:) We also find that the only orange juice that seems to surround it so it goes down smoothly is Sainsbury’s freshly squeezed orange juice which is expensive but we only put about 20ml with a dose.
You asked how much we take. My wife takes 35ml three times a day as she reached her tolerance level at 42ml and we reduced it 15%. She is obviously very ill to require that amount. I take 20ml three times a day but am finding that as my ailments are disappearing I am having to reduce that amount. My wife is also improving steadily since taking the Lipo-c.
We compared the flavour, consistency and potency to the Liv-on Altrient C and it was the same. Since we have been taking it at the beginning of November, neither of us have had a cold or cough when people around us have had them continuously. But I have noticed far more benefits than just colds, as I am a builder and am 65 years old with the usual aches and pains that one gets at that age working outside doing heavy work, but they have all disappeared. I do however notice that if I get stressed in any way, that is mentally or physically or get the start of a cold or something, more is needed. I usually up the Lipo-c 5ml or so each dose until the problem disappears then revert to the normal dose, and that usually takes about 3 doses or 1 day. From what I have read, the older one gets, the more Vitamin C is required but it also depends on how healthy one is. So regarding how much you take. The best and only way is to start on 1ml or gram three times a day and increase it by 1ml or gram a day until you hit bowel tolerance, they reduce it by 10 – 15% which will eliminate the loose stools etc. That way it also lets your system get used to it gradually.
I would be interested to hear your comments on anything that you interpreted differently to me as two heads are always better that one. Kind regards, Peter

Hi Peter;
Thank you for sharing your lipo C process and experience! I have yet to gather all the ingredients for my first batch. I am wondering why you use the ultrasonic when you say it isn’t necessary (not trying to be disrespectful :))? I believe you said it makes the mixture more fluid, but is there any other therapeutic benefit you have noticed from including the ultasonic mixing? I would love to avoid purchasing/using one if therapeutic effects are the same without ultrasonic. Thanks once again for sharing your experience!

Hi Kim,
Thanks for the comments in your posting. In answer to your question: To quote part of the patent, “In the subject cold process, lipid dissolution in alcohol can be carried out, in some embodiments, at an elevated (above room temperature) to speed up solubilisation of the lipids in the solvent.”
The trouble is, alcohol evaporates at 78 degrees celsius, and although I heat it to only 60 degrees I keep it in a lab jar covered in cling film. You will notice when you remove the cling film at the end of the heating process, the strong smell suggesting that the alcohol is evaporating already.
I have not tried heating it in a saucepan as I already have an ultrasound cleaner, but if I were you, I would try it if cost is an issue, but do try to perhaps use a lab jar covered in cling film or something to contain the alcohol, and use a thermometer to make sure the temperature does not go much above 60 degrees which may be difficult on a cooker.
I tried to follow the patent to the letter, but clearly they do not spell out every process and I did have to read between the lines in places. There are probably other ways to get to the same result but the ingredients are expensive so when I found the potency compared to LivOn’s product exactly, I left it at that.
Although I purchased my 3 litre Ultrasonic Cleaner from allendaleultrasonics.co.uk, I did noticed that ebay were selling them much cheaper but they were made in China so I avoided them, but when I received it and looked at the small print , I found it was made in China too. So you may be able to make a saving in that area if you wanted to take the risk with ebay. Good luck with it anyway, I personally think it’s worth the investment because it makes it so easy, because I for one will be making Lipo C for a long time to come. It would be interesting to hear how you got on though.

KimMarch 26, 2018

Thanks for quick detailed reply, Peter! I went ahead and purchased an ultrasonic device. I am excited to receive it by mail to start my first batch. So wonderful to affordably take comtrol of your own health and healing!
Many thanks again Peter for generous sharing, and to Dr. Segura for original post.
Blessings,
Kim

I want to try my hand at making liposomal vitamin c, but I am somewhat confused about what source of vitamin c to use. I have read that a food source such as acerola cherry is the way to go. What is your opinion regarding this matter and if I do I do use the acerola cherry is the recipe the same?

As Peter Page indicates, using his ingredients, a 1st step of high rpm (as becomes viscous want internal mass to be churning a minumum of 700 rpm) stirring is required to create a true liposome. For that matter just using ultrasound in a do-it-yourself batch only creates an emulsion (as earlier comments alluded to).

The shearing from stirring creates dual layering with a central place for active ingredient incorporation. The % alcohol incorporated improves the amount of “drug” a liposome can trap.

Alcohol fluidizes (lowers temperature to transition from gel phase to liquid crystaline state) the lipids (phosphatdyl-choline is most relevant) & fosters liposomes with elasticity. The result (O.K. up to 30% alcohol) creates smaller liposomes, but whose shape is less round. Too high % alcohol basically can get configuration so fluid “drug” may leak out of the liposome.

Since lecithin is not pure phosphatidylcholine I can only propose the folowing ratios: for every 10 mg “drug” ideally be using 3% phosphatidylcholine content (% weight per total mixture volume) + 30% alcohol ( % weight per total mixture volume) + whatever else is in your lecithin (after calculated amount required to provude 3% phosphatidylcholine) + water (distilled) to create 100% volume. This should provide a high rate of “drug” filled liposomes (~70%) & reasonable sized particles for further processing via ultrasound.

If use less % (2 – 2.5%) phosphatidylcholine will get smaller particles & if use more (4-5%) phosphatidylcholine will get larger particles than using 3%. Yet the % of “drug” in the alcohol processed liposome is more when use 3% phosphatidylcholine.

The step of ultrasound is where the size of the liposome can reduced. Energy opens the liposome flattening it out so it ruptures & subsequently those partcles re-bend to close up on the rebound with “drug” inside.

Thus a brief phase of ultrasound should be followed by a phase +/- 2x longer of no ultrasound . This off period is important for avoiding heat degradation of the newly configuring liposomes. It is worth repeating this on/off cycled ultrasound at least 3 times to reduce individual liposome diameter (smaller, yet more in numbers).

Depending on how densely you pack the ultrasound & what kHZ the ultrasound generates you might only need to pulse for 10 seconds to “flatten” the liposomes to where they can rupture, then give it 20 seconds off for new liposome flattened disc ruptures to bend back into individual liposome spheres. Inside the ultrasound tank leave more room underneath the mass you are treating than on the sides; say 1 unit of measure underneath to 0.75 units of measure all around.

The ultrasound kHz frequency when a low number gives a stronger wave blast to a liposome than a higher kHz ultrasound wave. Most inexpensive ultrasounds are designed for cleaning with strong kHz blasts.

You will actually usually (on average) get smaller sized liposomes using 60 – 80 kHz (at 80watts) than either 30 kHz (at say 40 Watts) or 45 kHz (at say 60 Watts). Yet if you had to choose between 30 kHz & 45kHz ultrasound machines (after 3 cycles of on/off treatment) usually the 30kHz unit will create smaller sized liposomes than a 45kHz unit. That said, at any kHz treatment ultrasound will ceate an range of various sized liposomes; & some from 30 kHz will be as small as the largest from 60 kHz.