I'm with you Ron & while I admit there is a variance from outlet to outlet, the few that I have been in I found the coffee weakish & their donuts soggy. I think Tim Horton's represent one of the most effective propaganda efforts in the country.

I used to like TimH's...until one day I ordered a banana muffin which had NO bananas in it. It tasted fake! I asked about it and was told that they now use flavoring to make the banana breads......most of the donuts are flavored with some kind of fakey stuff.

and I also find all their sweets way too sweet. At the very beginning, their rough-shaped apple fritters were so good, then they 'graduated' to flat squarish shapes.....BLECH. So disappointed in them.

Too bad they don't' actually make or bake anything anymore. Everything comes in already made and they just heat it up. They've sacrificed quality, but i guess they're busy enough that it's not bothering their business. I like their bagels w/ cream cheese, and their 'ice caps' but other then that I'm always disappointed.