don't forget Poland and cyprus w.r.t. article_________________The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
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Seriously though. This is what happens when two generations of alpha males are wiped out in one century. Western European males are pussies, eager to abrogate the very basics of their own lives to the State._________________The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.
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Europe is a very good place to be. It is the moral compass of the world and welcomes immigrants with wide open arms!_________________"Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated, until defeat has been accepted as a reality." -- Bruce Lee

We have concentration camps for those not engineers or better.
Even if so, they have to deal with language skills.
Those not in possession of those skills (or better) will be staying in a state of limbo or still in camp.
This is what the left calls freedom.
This is why the drive for people to turn to 'better' opportunities.

Orban, Salvini, LePen, the AfD and Sweden Democrats will soon rule the EU ...._________________True ignorance is not the absence of knowledge, but the refusal to acquire it.
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EU elections are due 23–26 May 2019 ... the socialists are very likely going to disappear from the EU parliament, right wingers by far the biggest force._________________True ignorance is not the absence of knowledge, but the refusal to acquire it.
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Orban, Salvini, LePen, Geert Widers (NL) and Kurz already announced their alliance to rule the EU_________________True ignorance is not the absence of knowledge, but the refusal to acquire it.
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magic and I remember all the rhetoric here (and in the news) leading up to the BREXIT referendum
some people here, the EU, the news where too distracted in laughing at the UK to spend a moment to look at the actual EU from the point of view of its citizens to see how corrupt, how incompetent, how over-reaching it is
Had they bothered to think about why a country would want to leave rather than labeling brits racists (pro tip... some may have, a lot voted for all the right reasons), had the EU listened to Britain and its people, had the EU actually improved MAYBE there would not have been a vote...

oh and the nonsense that the British contribution of €10Bn is small change was again rhetoric as there is ongoing bunfights in trying to find the 10Bn as the commission won't cut spending and is asking others to fill in the void... YET there are less members

Italy has never really had any growth since it joined the €, the Target2 is holding nations hostage... the € has all the hallmarks of the transfer ruble from the 60's with the same impact on "Satellite states"

Well I will make sure I stock up on plenty of popcorn to see how this onfolds_________________The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
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This is great! We can vote for a parliament which has less power than the parliaments, then in the Eastern bloc.
And even this little power, this caricature of a parliament, does not even use against the commison.
Ultimately, it serves only as a precautionary station for "deserving" party members ...

erm67 wrote:

... the socialists are very likely going to disappear from the EU parliament,

Will anyone really miss them? The accomplices of the neo-liberals, who always say yes to the destruction of civil and labor rights and every fucking war the US started.

erm67 wrote:

right wingers by far the biggest force.

That's nonsense. The "conservative" bloc is by far the largest in the Paralament and unfortunately that will not changer.
What I had previously written about the "socialists" also applies to this block of shit.

This EU is at an end, and it is only a matter of time before the collapse.
The situation is currently very similar to the collapse of the Eastern Bloc.
Let's hope that this is peaceful, but I'm afraid that will not happen. Unfortunately.

@Naib
I can almost completely agree with you.
But you will not be able to enjoy your popcorn, at least not for long. There are 2 huge problems,

1) Theresa May
she is playing wrong the whole time, she does not represent your interests of the british citizens. She will betray you all.
Sunk her in the Thames along with Boris Johnson.

2) Even if you solve problem 1) you will probably join the maelstrom of the sinking EU...
The linkages and dependencies are economically just too big.

I agree... May was a remainer and has been undermining every single step of the way and yes as the EU fractures the fallout will be felt nearby_________________The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
Great Britain is a republic, with a hereditary president, while the United States is a monarchy with an elective king

This EU is at an end, and it is only a matter of time before the collapse.
The situation is currently very similar to the collapse of the Eastern Bloc.
Let's hope that this is peaceful, but I'm afraid that will not happen. Unfortunately.

Dream on, they want to reform and rule the EU, not sink it ... and probably its just an attitude to attract votes anyway._________________True ignorance is not the absence of knowledge, but the refusal to acquire it.
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Dream on, they want to reform and rule the EU, not sink it ... and probably its just an attitude to attract votes anyway.

David Cameron went about trying to reform the EU. Remember? The whole Brexit thing? It's inherently resistant to removing power from its bureaucrats by design.

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Thatcher tried as well with the extreamly bias CAP bit that kept getting veto'ed by the French. The rebate was the "compromise" the the symptom not the problem.

The EU has shown time and time against it is uninterested, unwilling to reform while also ignoring the will of the people through unelected positions or ignoring people's vote... Remember France and Ireland rejected what the became the Lisbon treaty and it became a treaty to bypass the people._________________The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
Great Britain is a republic, with a hereditary president, while the United States is a monarchy with an elective king