There is no such thing as a Walk-behind ZTR. ZTR means Zero-Turn rider, and it would not be a Walk-behind if you road on it. In order to do an actual zero radius turn one wheel must be able to travel forward while the other travels backward.

Wait- Actually there is one. DR mowers makes a convertible mower which you can walk behind, and then move the levers to the front and ride on it...very rare.

Anyway, now that we clarified the terminology. On average the motors last anywhere from 1800-3000 hours. This is on an Air-cooled engine. I suppose a Water-Cooled would last longer and a Diesel will last even longer than that.
If you maintian the frame it should last forever. So worst case you replace an engnie, bearings, belts, pumps etc.

m&m

08-09-2002, 11:05 PM

are you aure it dont stand for ZERO TURN RADIUS?

m&m

08-09-2002, 11:07 PM

not to mention , dont the hydro walk behinds operate like the riders......one wheel this way and one wheel that way when turning?

Jimbo

08-09-2002, 11:14 PM

M&M,

I dont think it means Zero-turn-radius. I have never seen a WB advertised as a ZTR, so I am pretty sure it means rider. Or maybe it does mean radius and like I said WB's dont Zero turn.

Maybe someone else can clarify.

And, as far as I know the WB hydros free wheel when you pull in the lever. In order to make a "real" Zero turn the one wheel must turn backwards while the opposite wheel turns forward. Like on a ZTR when you push one lever forward and pull the other backward.

Jim

Lawn-Scapes

08-09-2002, 11:28 PM

I think it does mean radius

Proper maintenance.. 2500-3000 hours

Richard Martin

08-10-2002, 03:46 AM

It does stand for "radius".

The lifespan of mowers is all over the place. The Dixie Choppers with the extra filters are probably the longest lasting gas powered mowers you can buy. There are a lot of Dixies out there with in excess of 4,000 hours.

But like Tom said, 2,500 to 3,000 hours is probably the average.

John Gamba

08-10-2002, 06:56 AM

My WB Zero turn Just Like The rider's Do.

Ax Man

08-10-2002, 08:42 AM

My wb is a ztr too.
How do you get them to go backwards if they freewheel?
You musv'e bought a budget model.

Jimbo

08-10-2002, 08:31 PM

John/ Axman

What models do you have? Are they advertised as ZTR's? I have never seen one advertised like that.

Axman- I didnt say that it doesnt have a reverse. Does your mower have a lever for reverse? Or how does it work?

Please educate me.

Jim

longviewlawncare

08-10-2002, 08:45 PM

scag's hydro's have zero turn on the back of the hydro tank. And yes one wheel does turn forward and one backward. The motor is reversed just liek the riders

Guardian

08-10-2002, 09:21 PM

On a Toro Hydro WB w/ T-bar, it is very easy to get a true zero turn. Wether ZTR means rider or radias, who cares

LAWNGODFATHER

08-10-2002, 11:16 PM

Radius not rider!!!

Most hydro WB's are ZTR's they just don't advertize it like that.

Ferris single drive hydro is an inside wheel radius WB like a belt drive and 3 wheeled riders.

4-5000 hours with proper maintenance. Some can go longer that that and some don't even come close.

It is more of the engine you choose not the mower.

KOHLER All the way.

65hoss

08-11-2002, 05:59 AM

I'm amazed! :dizzy:

m&m

08-11-2002, 02:15 PM

LOL............What are you amazed at? The knowledge or the bickering.........j/k

Ax Man

08-11-2002, 02:47 PM

On the Bobcat, you squeeze the handels to steer or if you squeeze all the way to the grips there is reverse.
No extra levers.
Demo Demo Demo

weve

08-11-2002, 05:14 PM

"ZTR" is a registered trademark of Dixon mowers. According to Dixon advertising it means "zero turning radius". That's why no one else can use it in their ads.