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Tundra Discussion

1 week ago

Generally, I would rank the mana lands lands into a couple different tiers (within these tiers there might be some striation--this is just a general overview).

At the top are your original Duals, like
Tundra
for obvious reasons. They enter untapped, they can be fetched, and they have no downside other than being nonbasic lands.

The second tier are your shock lands, like
Hallowed Fountain
. These can be fetched and have the option of entering untapped, though there is a slight downside. The downside, however, is mitigated some by the fact it only has to be paid once.

Finally we get to lands that enter tapped. If you are on a restrictive budget, you can use these, but you are going to have significant problems with hitting your curve. Ideally, everyone in your meta will have a similar mana base, as otherwise you will be perpetually a turn behind in terms of mana generation.

The tri-lands would fall into this lowest tier. While having three colours is nice, they are still too slow for all but the most casual of tables. There are plenty of decent rainbow options, such as
Mana Confluence
, that would be a preferable choice.

Those are all great cards, but their representation does not seem high enough to say "the reserve list is killing legacy." It may play a small role by increasing the cost of some cards, but it is far from the format's biggest problem.

I think competition from Modern (both in terms of players and in terms of demand for cards being used in both formats driving up price), Wizards not providing support for Legacy, and the rarity with which new cards that shake up Legacy are printed, are all bigger threats to the format than the Reserve List.

2 months ago

DanTheBear hush my sweet child. The pricetag is a figure of the most idealistic flashy deck on paper possible. A result of SynergyBuild's work he put into intentionally expensifying the deck as much as he possibly could. We'll be working on a budget version soon, and if you'd like we can provide a price estimate for a non-foil version of the list with lower value printings. Also keep in mind the price from there can be lowered by cutting cards like Chains of Mephistopheles, Scrubland, Tundra, and Underground Sea. Hell, $8K of this deck is coming from the alpha edition Underground Sea alone haha.

2 months ago

4 months ago

Grandmaster5327, all of those are uncommon or higher rarity, so none of them are legal in Pauper format. Thus, none of those would work for this deck in this format. At the level of common, which is all that may be used for Pauper format, there are no dual lands that enter the battlefield untapped.

Looking at the cards from Alpha, Beta, Unlimited, and Revised, they didn't have the color designations for any symbols (indeed, they lacked symbols completely), but looking them up on Gatherer shows that ALL of them are uncommon, rare, and there are even some dual lands at mythic rare. None of the dual lands at the level of Common enter the battlefield untapped.

5 months ago

So, I see a lot of changes for general power level upgrades. I can't give anything specific to this deck, as I can't tell what the deck is attempting to accomplish at a quick look through the list, but these should be in every cEDH list that can run them.

Tundra occurrence in decks from the last year

Legacy:

All decks: 1.41%

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.15%

W/U (Azorius): 0.21%

GWU (Bant): 0.17%

W/U/B (Esper): 0.86%

RUW (Jeskai, America): 0.15%

BUG (Sultai): 0.07%

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