Celtic Diary Sunday July 9: Stripping Titles Is Not The Complete Answer

If a case is made to remove the titles from Rangers, who used their own interpretation of tax rules to pay players who otherwise would have played elsewhere, then the idea of simply making the competition void falls flat.

It leaves the defence argument an option to argue to void all the competitions that featured games that included improperly registered players.

Which then leaves the clubs open to civil cases as fans simply ask for their money back.

Always consider all the consequences of all of your actions.

Put simply, either the SFA/SPFL or UEFA must strip the Ibrox club of all trophies won, and award them to the runners up. This leaves no doubt as to who the wrongdoer is, and doesn’t affect those who played-and paid-by the rules.

Its not something to celebrate, by the way, but it is the only feasible way to begin to move forward and clean up the game.

Failure to act isn’t an option, as there are stories emerging that European teams, notably Porto, are looking for compensation from when they faced Rangers in the Champions League, and missed out on further prize money.

Porto have recently been punished for their own financial mistakes, and will be anxious that other teams are not seen to get away with misdemeanours.

Whilst it is important to consider all the possible outcomes of any action, its even more important to do this quickly. Should the Scottish authorities be seen to dither, then the european and possibly even world governing bodies may take matters into their own hands.

That could have serious implications for us all.

What is beyond doubt though, is the need for swift and decisive action.

The correct action.

You wouldn’t be thinking that though if you pay any attention to the now thoroughly discredited national media.

They’ve had years to investigate and demand action on this long before the court decision last week. Even now, the BBC are reporting on the ludicrous “Strip our titles and we’ll get you done for child abuse ” statement from Club 1872, yet ignoring statements from Aberdeen and dundee united fans, who are keen on title stripping.

The Celtic Trust have also delivered a strong and sensible statement..

Celtic Trust statement re Supreme Court ruling

Published on Saturday 8th July, 2017 by Celtic Trust

We note the recent decision of the Supreme Court which confirmed the long-held belief that over many years Rangers Football Club operated with an unfair and illegal advantage over other Clubs and in so doing gained many honours.

We consider the statement from the SFA, that it intends to take no action, to be unacceptable and unsustainable. We join with our own club, Celtic, and supporters of other Clubs who have already commented on this, in calling on the Football Authorities in Scotland to convene a full independent and transparent inquiry into this matter and to do so as a matter of urgency.

We at the Celtic Trust would also urge other clubs and their fans, who have not already done so, to indicate their support for a new enquiry in light of the recent court ruling.

There needs to be action.

The first step should be to open an independent and transparent investigation into the issue. The Lord Nimmo Smith enquiry is now rendered worthless, as it opined on the basis -or assumption-that EBTs were legal.

Put simply, they weren’t loans, they were wages. They weren’t bonuses, they were salary.

We’d all take loans in our pay packets at the end of the week if we could, if it meant not paying tax, but we arenlt allowed to do that, and neither are employers.

They knowingly cheated, so they should lose their titles.

A sports lawyer adds…

Note it should be contested, and not voided.

I don’t want the titles, but I don’t want all of the clubs who won titles or trophies to lose theirs because someone else cheated, and didn’t even cheat well enough to win.

BBC Scotland, as part of their “lets hope it all goes away ” policy, enacted since Wednesday last, had none other than Gordon Smith, the Sunday Posts Man In The know to deliver a verdict on the subject, a move which surprised one intelligent and attractive tweeter..

Putting Gordon Smith on is like getting me to do a lecture on sub nucleonic particle physics.

However, the BBC have engaged a sports lawyer on to deliver a more, er, accurate account of the way things are, but they soon put a stop to that, when it didn’t suit their agenda..

When clear heads realise how clear the answer is, the trophies will be stripped, and awarded to the runners up.

Whether those clear heads belong to the SFA/SPFL..

or European or World officials is all that remains to be seen.

We may also see a few media owners wondering why their Scottish branches have failed miserably to cover the story of the biggest ever sports scandal while it was developing right there under their noses..

One or two editors, one or two presenters and several hacks will be screaming every time their phone rings over the next week or so…

Back at the ranch, and while Celtic were sending out a warning to the rest of Scottish football that they would concentrate on the football..

someone was having a look around.

By the way, who slipped into the stands and took the picture, which allows the world to know that Olivier Ntcham was in Glasgow for a tour and a medical ?

Ntcham is expected to sign, which will add a bit of steel to the midfield.

Hopefully, though, Rodgers will resist the temptation to throw him into action against Linfield on Friday, especially as Scott Brown limped off after half an hour yesterday.

Brown picked up a knock.. Rodgers explained..

“His Achilles was a little bit sore and we just need to asses that over the next couple of days, but nothing too serious I don’t think, but we will see how that is.”

His heel was hurting ?

Could have been worse, he could have broke a toenail or messed up his mascara.

Anyhoo, the rest of the lads did well without him, recording a 9-0 win that must have scared the shit out of Linfield.

Especially as they were beaten at windsor Park by Hearts, 4-1..

Linfield manager David Healey said, perhaps with his tongue in his cheek, and a finger up his bottom to prevent further leakage..

“I did hear the Celtic score against Shamrock, someone told me the good news,” laughed Healy. “We had someone at the game and they have sent me through the match report – I told him to delete it after the first couple of goals. Maybe I’m going to play a six-four-zero!

“No, I’m going to ask the players to enjoy it. It’s a huge, huge occasion. We will probably never, ever play Celtic again in the second qualifying round of the Champions League. Enjoy the occasion because you might never get it again.

“Some of these players are getting on a bit, some of these players are young. Some of them might never get the chance of playing again at this level.”

Roll on Friday 14th July … We will be waiting for The Celtic FC Bus in Belfast … Be Afraid Bhoys

We’ve heard it all before.

There are a lot of threats, a lot of attempts at intimidation on social media, and a lot of nonsense written about an issue which, as i recall writing at the time, would come back and bite us on the arse were it not properly dealt with.

.

It wasn’t properly dealt with back then, and now we’re all reaching in the cupboards for the TCP and some cotton wool.

That bite is in danger of becoming a poisonous sore, which could have fatal consequences.

Act now, strip the titles and expel the Ibrox club, at least until they say they are sorry, and do a few expulsions of their own.

Due to misgivernance over the years, and I’m going back decades, the game in Scotland has a lot to sort out over the next wee while, and that includes child abuse, financial irregularities, corruption and collusion.

This is the time to clean it all up.

What are we waiting for ?

Yesterday, we had this picture, in a vain attempt to move away from the woes of football..

Ralph,what about the Cup competitions(domestic)? I admit I know who took the photo and was shouting ‘Aw naw(in Latin), not another midfielder!
P.S.Thanks for the postcode Weered,amusing doesn’t quite cover it…..
Caption: Jakey Rowling throws bams’ poetry over the hedge!

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 11:47 am ·

Rob sorry I couldn’t resist it… Same as the Glasgow Post code for the Australian chap… It was Ipox 🙂

Rob O'KeeffeJuly 9, 2017 at 12:03 pm ·

Och,what are you like? I’ve had to tell my two orphan Celtic fans that we’ll have to watch it in the pub oops their orphanage.When I checked the Glasgow one it just saiz Liebrox/CSs hoose.
Thank God rugby ended in a draw which is apparently good for lions and TRFC(poetry division) at Parkhead.I can safely approach a real lawyer and say ‘Nope,none of the riffraff(his words) seem to want to talk about domestic cups,although a world class guy called Ralph is talking about Cups in Europe.Oh well,maybe soon?’

P.S.Orphans in their 50s still count,don’t they?
P.PS.No poetry was harmed in this craic.

IRISHGUYJuly 9, 2017 at 11:22 am ·

CAPTION………

“O.K. Billy & Wullie you 2 get the hub caps, I’ll get the battery”.

FredCDobbsJuly 9, 2017 at 11:24 am ·

clicking on the “worst celtic team in my lifetime” I was surprised to find no mention of tomas graveson.

Rob O'KeeffeJuly 9, 2017 at 12:07 pm ·

And pray tell why do that?….. in for a penny…..

MontiJuly 9, 2017 at 2:08 pm ·

But when you clicked on..’ Absolute fud.com ‘ you were at ease as your name was still at the top?

FredCDobbsJuly 9, 2017 at 2:24 pm ·

ffs ya twat gie yer da his PC back.

MontiJuly 9, 2017 at 3:54 pm ·

He’s a skeleton, died in 1990….should be a dab hand at typing tho….

Charlie SaizJuly 9, 2017 at 4:28 pm ·

Ma da told me to bag him up and throw him in a skip so “they cooncil cunts kin fit the fuckin bill” when he was in his last days.

Caption comp. “I’m sure it landed over here somewhere…..” Fans looking for the matchball after a Lorenzo Amorouso free kick during a “Legends” match.

Charlie SaizJuly 9, 2017 at 11:56 am ·

Caption: Brechin City go mental after paying Landscapers McCoisht Ltd a small fortune to cut down their hedge and still no match ball has been recovered

Tim BuffyJuly 9, 2017 at 12:10 pm ·

Unbelievable statement from Gordon Parks in today’s Sunday Mail. In a piece ostensibly suggesting the GASL shouldn’t be making statements designed to deflect attention away from Sevco’s Euro eventually Parks eventually gets back to his intended theme by saying that most Rangers fans he knows have had their fill of the EBT issue.
“Those who did what and even the stripping of titles debate has been reserved for the bar bore corner of the room….
“IT IS NEVER A SPORTS WRITER’S DESIRE TO WADE INTO THESE MATTERS.”
Really, Gordon.
I’d have thought that was your f*cking job!

portpowerJuly 9, 2017 at 12:10 pm ·

Caption:
The gers gripe comes to hedge.

portpowerJuly 9, 2017 at 12:15 pm ·

Caption:
The gers gripe comes to a hedge.

Tim BuffyJuly 9, 2017 at 12:11 pm ·

Unbelievable statement from Gordon Parks in today’s Sunday Mail. In a piece ostensibly suggesting the GASL shouldn’t be making statements designed to deflect attention away from Sevco’s Euro eventually Parks eventually gets back to his intended theme by saying that most Rangers fans he knows have had their fill of the EBT issue.
“Those who did what and even the stripping of titles debate has been reserved for the bar bore corner of the room….
“IT IS NEVER A SPORTS WRITER’S DESIRE TO WADE INTO THESE MATTERS.”
Really, Gordon.
I’d have thought that was your f*cking job!

Rob O'KeeffeJuly 9, 2017 at 12:15 pm ·

Caption:Operation Banner needs a bit of work!

Check BBC News pic,24th Oct 2014.

Mike AnnisJuly 9, 2017 at 12:16 pm ·

The biggest concern is that only 3 fans groups have come out in favour of stripping the titles. The rest seem to be afraid or actually condoning it. So much for the integrity of Scortishbfootball. They all seem happy to continue in a fixed system. There is no hope for it.

portpowerJuly 9, 2017 at 12:29 pm ·

The Toucan can.HH

ewanbhoyJuly 9, 2017 at 1:15 pm ·

I could be wrong but I think our board could go direct to UEFA and ask for a full investigation into how our game is being run and in particular rangers cheating and the sfa cover up and involvement in it.

MontiJuly 9, 2017 at 2:03 pm ·

Mike Annis,
Agreed, more clubs/supporters need to wake the fuck up, if they can’t motivate themselves to make sure we have a properly working, functioning game here, then the game is indeed, truly fucked.
I do have a feeling this is end of days for Thtewart Regan & Dungcaster.
If they aren’t corrupt, they ARE shit at in their positions of work!

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 10:43 pm ·

Mike Annie’s, if the 3 groups could be seen to join together on this then others may be persuaded to stick their heads above the parapet

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 10:45 pm ·

Mike Annis, sorry about the predictive txt mistake on your name 🙁

Charlie SaizJuly 9, 2017 at 12:18 pm ·

Award winning journalism is hard to come by
So when you find such brilliance spread the word far and high
Take Keith at the Rangord he’s been scooping up prizes
Stories off the Radar much to our surprises
Then theres yer man JJ who dismisses any dangers
A Bear with a stauner for all things bad at The 2angers
He claims to be first in all that he writes
Though guys like Phil have him bang to rights
For years we were reading about Charlottes Fakes
About the practices at Ibrox and cunts on the take
All this was free if you had internet connection
Send JJ a tenner he gets an instant erection
It just seems a bit odd for some lookin in
That a Ger would be pandering to the whims of us tims
But then lm not convinced he’s a Rangers Supporter
Just a guy in the know who needs a new motor
Or holidays abroad or to treat his new burd
And the fools with the cash hang on to every word
I think he’s playing fellow Tims all for a fool
And If you part with your cash you’ll end up looking a tool

Rob O'KeeffeJuly 9, 2017 at 1:30 pm ·

Ask Phil about the British Army and their ‘behaviour” in Ireland.Playing to the crowd again?Pal,bud,fellow Tims etc.You on free WiFi I suppose,lurker.Some of us pay for Internet connection.Why take a pop at a site that you have no time for?Funny how you don’t say anything about your rabid Hun sites,you are most definitely a Mason and a Hun.Tell all us “fellow”Tims what regiment you were in so we can check their “glorious “past exploits,eh bud,pal etc
Go On Home!

Rob O'KeeffeJuly 9, 2017 at 1:36 pm ·

“Bear”,”Ger”,”Rangers Supporter,capitals” only a Freemason would use this terminology,eh bud,pal,fellow etc etc…
Are You Home Yet?….

Charlie SaizJuly 9, 2017 at 8:00 pm ·

I’m well aware of Phil’s stance on the British Army and his views on a united Ireland
I happen to agree with some of them.
Though what relevance any of that has to do with the Huns cheating and EBTs I don’t know?
It would appear you are trying to steer all things this way to garner support on here?
Sad affair
Yer man JJ took a swipe at this forum for no apparent reason other than he think he owns the rights to all things EBT related?
Fanny that he is
Some FACTS
I happen to pay over £40 a month for BT Broadband and my phone
I’m not a Hun nor do I subscribe to any Hun related sites
As a 4th generation Irish Scot who was confirmed a Catholic in the late 70’s on the west coast of Scotland and attended a Catholic Primary and mixed Secondary l have never been a Mason or even considered becoming a Mason in my entire life.
My former Regiment has no relevance whatsoever that’s long gone in the past
So wrong on all of the above
Ya plumb
50% of the blood that courses through my body is Irish the term Home is where the heart is applies here because the simple fact is when over there I was technically home.
So GRFUY

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 9:42 pm ·

Saiz… Seems like you are being almost victimised by smart ass comments from the side of mouth arse hole who seems to pathetically out-clever folk with fucking gibberish only he understands. You do not have to justify yourself to anyone

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 10:39 pm ·

Saiz… I agree with you about JJ and his money fetish… Fools and their money are soonest parted, as you well know 🙂

Rob O'KeeffeJuly 9, 2017 at 10:40 pm ·

Charming Weered.I’ll keep it simple.He brought up Phil’s name in his post and has stated that a British soldier agrees with some of Phil’s views regarding Ireland.Don’t think Phil would give him the time of day.He equates JJ with KJ,I disagree.Check out both of their work Weered and make up your mind.He spoke about “free” internet connections then had to state that he paid for BT,hence my WiFi comment.He states his regiment and their actions are in the past and we shouldn’t bother about that,then talks about title stripping from years gone by.Pick your history.Ask your peers Weered if they are happy to “forget” about the British regiments and just leave it in the past.Tell the Celtic fans when they sing Go on Home British Soldiers that it doesn’t apply to some.Pathetic.

Rob O'KeeffeJuly 9, 2017 at 10:48 pm ·

Tell your British Army “pal” plum and it’s GIRFUY.He is a Hun.Simple as,he’s come back after a sabbatical and is playing the old ‘Look at me,I’m a pure Tim card’.Don’t you remember his arguments on here? Disappointed in you Weered.

Charlie SaizJuly 9, 2017 at 11:02 pm ·

Normally l justi ignore ignorant comments Red and treat them with the contempt they deserve but for once thought the facts deserve to speak for themselves.
This way no one looking in gets the wrong idea about who l am or what l am about.
We all make decisions in life that we regret that comes with maturity,experience and age.
Well for most of us anyway.
Yer spot on about Mr James he’s takin some for mugs on his pay per comment site.
Tell folk what they want to hear and tell them things they may not now hey presto you have them hooked.
Easy money.
More fool them.
Btw Red I’ve never been a victim in my life and don’t intend to start now pal.
More fool him that tries 😉
God bless the Celtic and tae fuck with the rest

WeeredJuly 10, 2017 at 9:45 am ·

Rob… The war is over… Did you not hear that?
How can we go forward if people like you are stuck in the past and try to justify it by rancid whataboutery.
You are of the past and will always remain there.
ERIN GO BRAGH

Charlie SaizJuly 10, 2017 at 11:01 am ·

@Rob
It’s a poem about the stuff that’s relevant today.
You brought up prize winning journalism l highlight the fact that fuckwit Jackson is scooping up awards writing pish every week hence the bit about stories off the Radar.
I highlighted Phil and Charlottes Fakes because both were raking up info years before JJ very hit the scene and neither were found asking for dough at the time.
I have no issue with Phil’s views on a United Ireland or the actions of the Crown in fact l agree with them.
I abhor all violence l do not condone the murder of innocents regardless of who or what name it is carried out.
That’s a view l have had all my life.
Someone asked how they could get to view a game for free so l suggested Kodi on Amazon Firestick if all else fails though obviously the fact you have to lay out an initial £60-80 for it flew over your head.
You don’t like verse or poetry l get it each to their own.
Stop reading it and move on to the next post.
Simples.
I’ve been labelled a fenian cunt,taig,Catholic bastard most of my life by ignorant cunts and I’m damn sure l won’t have my background or motives on a Celtic site by an ignorant twat like you?
Seriously go fuck yersel son water off a ducks back
Take yer clueless opinions and stick them up yer craic
😉

MontiJuly 9, 2017 at 2:04 pm ·

Afternoon Eyore!

Charlie SaizJuly 9, 2017 at 2:06 pm ·

Afternoon eyesore

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 4:38 pm ·

A proper pair of arses heeehaw heeehaw

Charlie SaizJuly 9, 2017 at 4:43 pm ·

Me an Monti are the cheeks and there’s you in the middle Red …

)o(

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 5:28 pm ·

Yep that’s the whole truth of the matter

portpowerJuly 9, 2017 at 12:20 pm ·

Shall they Get Smart?

sevco agent 1872 FC.

Pj44July 9, 2017 at 12:46 pm ·

Caption Whaur’s that Goat?

Puggy67July 9, 2017 at 1:05 pm ·

Caption:Lost in translation as Pedro tells youth team about Wee Harry peep hole at Murray Park

portpowerJuly 9, 2017 at 1:07 pm ·

Thy SFA/SPFL/sevconians,the freelance parasites involved in our game.

Klan knavery within Scottish Football is down to those at IOUbrox and those behind the doors at Hampden Park.

They`re to runagate.

DocJuly 9, 2017 at 1:12 pm ·

Caption: SFA about to meet dave king, so they assume the position.

DocJuly 9, 2017 at 1:15 pm ·

Any chance of the email address?

Cartvale88July 9, 2017 at 1:13 pm ·

Caption
After Tyncastle FC result, there is no hope.

The media are a shower of bigots, the 1872 rage is a prime example of their stupidity in running this. Even today glittering on that the referee blew the whistle on the 89th minute, relevance, they are stupid stupid stupid Huns that have been shafted by the establishment for years.

portpowerJuly 9, 2017 at 1:34 pm ·

Loannidis was an Alter Bhoy.HH

Rob O'KeeffeJuly 9, 2017 at 1:39 pm ·

Altar,please port Signed We haven’t gone away.

portpowerJuly 9, 2017 at 1:41 pm ·

That old rangers(IL) chestnut sevconians.
What was the name of that company again?

I can`t get no…separation.

PensionerbhoyJuly 9, 2017 at 1:44 pm ·

Ralph,

I understand you believing there is justification for your submission that stripping – you naked gives me palpitations 🙂 – trophies should apply to all games in which a club or clubs that have broken rules participated in thus making all such matches null and void. I could not argue with your opinion if justice was the only criteria. However, in football, laws are what apply and, even if they very often fail to provide real justice, they are all that we can legitimately rely on. Though it could be argued the SFA, SPFL, UEFA or FIFA would be justified in following your suggestions, tradition i.e. verdict interpretations, has established that penalties are meted out to the offending club only. Given the current interpretation of rules and regulations and the traditional penalties applied, I cannot see any justification for penalising other clubs affected by Rangers (IL)’ offences. I contend, therefore, only games and trophies awarded to Rangers (IL) should be declared null and void.

There is, of course, the practicality of taking the actions you suggest. There would be ramifications throughout the whole of European football. Voiding all Rangers (IL)’ games, would cause a storm of protest from European clubs who won European trophies during the “cheating” years. It would then be unjust to exempt European clubs and penalise only those Scottish clubs affected. Besides, logistically, it would be a nightmare sorting out the results and the financial implications would be almost impossible to resolve. Justice not only has to be seen to be done, for us humans, I think it should be practical too. It seems to me to be common sense to accept the status quo with regard the application of penalties. In this instance, it they should apply to Rangers (IL) alone.

I would not want what I have written to be misconstrued. I would dearly wish for true and full justice and would most willingly accept all consequences even if they were detrimental to the current history of Celtic. Nor are my arguments in any way based on a bias toward Celtic, hatred of another club or a deep founded respect for the law. No, it is based on the practicalities of justice, limited by human laws, for the sake of restoring a semblance of integrity into a sport that has lost its way “big time”. I hope you would regard me a little justified in thinking this way.

H H

TicTocJuly 10, 2017 at 12:10 pm ·

You make some good points, PB. As always, anything to do with the toxic club spreads contagion to most things it touches.
How about this as an alternative: it also allows the deluded hordes to hang onto the same club myth, and kill two birds with one stone. Ban all “Rangers” for cheating, sine die, and consign that shower to oblivion. It would also remove the most poisonous ‘cathedral’ on the planet and they’d have to find somewhere else to ‘worship’ their hatred and racism.
Just a thought………but I like it.
HH

WeeredJuly 10, 2017 at 4:00 pm ·

TicToc yer well again?

TicTocJuly 10, 2017 at 11:03 pm ·

Aye, no’ bad, thanks, but busy.
Have you got your ticket for Friday? (It’s okay Weered, no answer required)
BTW, I’m trying to put together a simple, condensed history of events around both a current and also a dead Govan football club spanning over a century. I’m trying to keep it really simple for any hun lurkers on here.
Once carefully proofed, I want to distribute it to many areas and may well ask for help from here.
HH

PensionerbhoyJuly 9, 2017 at 1:45 pm ·

Ralph,

I hope you did not throw my comment out because I argued against you. Friends are meant point out the errors of your ways 🙂

H H

charlieJuly 9, 2017 at 1:55 pm ·

capton the sons of strewth look for ra deeds

Charlie SaizJuly 9, 2017 at 1:56 pm ·

It would appear that a certain desperate bunch within the Scottish Football community are clutching at straws now regarding the calls for removing titles from their previous Club?
There seems to be an opinion within said quarters that Child Abuse and Tax Avoidance (on a personal level) have somehow manifested into aiding and abetting Celtic FC in their quest to gain an advantage on the field of play?
Here are some facts that may or may not help those that are evidently confused in these matters
1 Child abuse only serves to give the perpetrator an advantage over the victims.
It has nothing to do with football though some will have used football as a way of exploiting their victims again for personal gain.
If anything these actions will have denied Celtic the services of some these victims in their careers.
2 The use of Film Companies etc to avoid paying tax was th free choice of that individual Celtic FC have already paid their dues on Taxation at source via wages and NI Contributions as a result gains absolutely nothing from the individuals choice in what they do with their own finances from that point onwards.
3 Stories were abound around the 70’s of Celtic Directors heading across to Ireland with suitcases bulging with money.
That money if in fact true was denied to Celtic FC and as a result would have left us financially worse off in regards money available for signings and Ground maintenance etc.
Celtic have never cheated the system to gain an advantage on or off the Park.
One exception in the signing of Juninho in 2004 however does raise the issue of EBTs at Celtic.
That issue was dealt with back then as Celtic were never comfortable with this signing arrangement to start with.
As a result the Club contacted HMRC. and settled up the difference in full.
Rangers never in fact they decided to hide evidence and continue to bring in more and more players fully aware that under normal circumstances they could not afford them.
Several Directors have intimated that they knew at the time that this was wrong.
Dave King himself openly apologised and admitted if found guilty then they had gained advantage by improper means
None of the above gave Celtic any form of advantage on the park in fact it could be argued Juninho was a complete waste of money and poor business all round for Celtic.
Celtic at that time had built a decent side within their means and more importantly legally within the rules set out by the. SFA SPL and HMRC.
Do yersel a favour and accept that…
Rangers have been found guilty of breaking the rules in order to gain an advantage
Rangers Fc were Liquidated and so therefore are nothing to do with the Club you now follow follow.
If you need clarification on the latter then read Sir David Murrays statement on the EBT Ruling again.
He clearly states that Rangers Fc the Club were Liquidated under Whyte.

Now jog on.

Rob O'KeeffeJuly 9, 2017 at 3:46 pm ·

HM,the person you pledged allegiance to.Wonder if you ever told her ‘Do yersel a favour’ like you seem to think her RC(see wot I did)should do…..wonder how they take such suggestions?….

Charlie SaizJuly 9, 2017 at 6:38 pm ·

Lol
Read that 3 times now and still can’t find what relevance it has to my post?

MontiJuly 9, 2017 at 1:58 pm ·

Caption: These budding horticulturalist’s are investigating this hedge, looking for evidence that “rangers” were at the scene of the hedge being planted, thus confirming that the hedge is indeed, a proper hedge.

Charlie SaizJuly 9, 2017 at 2:04 pm ·

News report from last night..4 RUC Oficcers died in an RTA after colliding with a tree..the IRA have claimed responsibility for planting the tree.- Frank Carson

He died in Blackpool ye know 😉

MontiJuly 9, 2017 at 2:06 pm ·

Did you sit on him?

Charlie SaizJuly 9, 2017 at 4:23 pm ·

The car was 90 break horsepower fuck all to do with me or my trusted steeds.

Saiz.. I met Frank Carson several times when he was “Lord Mayor” of Balbriggan… A funny man who was from not far away where I grew up in Belfast.

Charlie SaizJuly 9, 2017 at 11:10 pm ·

Cool story Red l always thought he was funny must have been the way he told em 😉

charlieJuly 9, 2017 at 2:03 pm ·

ralph funny you should mention yon sub nucleonic particle physics me and the bhoys were just discussing that subject doon the barras this very morning

MontiJuly 9, 2017 at 2:12 pm ·

Do Protons & Neutrons have internal structure?
The answer is yes….
Shall i go on?…..

charlieJuly 9, 2017 at 2:37 pm ·

naw yer awe right

MontiJuly 9, 2017 at 3:56 pm ·

🙂

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 5:35 pm ·

Does that include the mesons and peons

MontiJuly 9, 2017 at 5:59 pm ·

Depends on the location of the lodge….

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 6:34 pm ·

That would be the higgs boson temple in Cern

charlieJuly 9, 2017 at 2:05 pm ·

strip the stolen trohies

MontiJuly 9, 2017 at 2:05 pm ·

Charlie,
I heard Baird’s was opening up again?
Is it opened yet m8?

charlieJuly 9, 2017 at 2:39 pm ·

naw …….NO YET

portpowerJuly 9, 2017 at 2:05 pm ·

Playing for Celtic FC actually reverses the chain of command,
making Celtic FC the deciders.

Hail Hail

MontiJuly 9, 2017 at 2:09 pm ·

Caption: ” Come out Pedro & face the fans “

MontiJuly 9, 2017 at 2:15 pm ·

Desimond,
I think we are at day 150 of me ” being patient “, regarding the SFA issuing a public condemnation of racial abuse, that was aimed Scott Sinclair.
Just saying like

portpowerJuly 9, 2017 at 2:18 pm ·

If those over the fence`ll put you off your game,join them.

Celts by a bowling green score.

portpowerJuly 9, 2017 at 2:27 pm ·

Caption:
The sevconian lost tribe return to Mount Horeb.

BJFJuly 9, 2017 at 2:40 pm ·

I have only just caught up with the fact that BT have sold the rights of Celtic’s preliminary rounds to an outfit called Premier TV, I think. I have been a big fan of BT but this seems sneaky.

These days I don’t worry about ” digs” at Celtic, good manager, good team, lovely football and winning everything in sight what’s to get negative about? Now in the dying days of the Kellys’and Whytes I was a tad more sensitive. The 1872/2012 Boys aren’t swinging because they are secure and happy, they are hurting because they sense more bad news is in the way. If they felt the worst was over I think they would have a much lower profile. I think they believe there is more bad news and they are trying to influence it the only way they know how, by bullying and intimidating , a strategy that soon runs out of road.

BJFJuly 9, 2017 at 2:46 pm ·

I have just caught up with the fact BT have sold the rights to Celtic’s preliminary Champion’s League rounds to Premier TV? I have been a big fan of BT but this seems a bit sneaky.

The ChaJuly 9, 2017 at 2:50 pm ·

Where are you seeing that?

Previously they only had the rights for Play-Off round onward, so has it changed?

bgbhoyJuly 9, 2017 at 2:53 pm ·

I work for bt, they only have the rights from playoff round, they had to bid for Friday like everyone else

The ChaJuly 9, 2017 at 2:56 pm ·

Yep, previously our qualifying games have been on ITV, C5 etc not restricted to BT or Sky before them.

PS Keep up the good work – Signed a BT Pensioner 🙂

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 4:43 pm ·

Bgbhoy… Any chance of a buckshee setup in Belfast ***wink***

Rob O'KeeffeJuly 9, 2017 at 6:28 pm ·

You can buy a box on Ebay(allegedly).Same place I got my tickets from a nice Mr.Gordon,Alan,Sandy,Liar……

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 9:50 pm ·

Rob is there any remote chance of you speaking plainly instead of your constant SHITE. I might even begin to like you… But that’s a long shot

Rob O'KeeffeJuly 9, 2017 at 10:16 pm ·

When I replied about the box from EBay,I referenced the point that you made several days ago about loyalists trying to defraud Celts with ticket scams,kidding on that GASL had “sold me tickets,plain enough….

MontiJuly 9, 2017 at 10:41 pm ·

🙂

Charlie SaizJuly 9, 2017 at 11:12 pm ·

Amazon fire stick with Kodi 😉
Pic one up off EBay for around £60-80

WeeredJuly 10, 2017 at 3:54 pm ·

Rob I fully understand of your jesting about tickets et al…

WeeredJuly 10, 2017 at 3:57 pm ·

Rob I also understand that I forewarned about people buying tickets from unknown sources without being specific. But there is a distinct possibility that may have happened..
What can ya do?

BJFJuly 9, 2017 at 2:50 pm ·

I think the 1872/2012,group are aware that the worst isn’t over yet and that there is more to come. They are trying to influence this the only way they know how, bullying and intimidation. I do t think that is likely to be an effective strategy, it would be interesting if clubs outside Scotland started to get involved, even thevSFA couldn’t keep a cover up going then.

portpowerJuly 9, 2017 at 3:03 pm ·

The stewards of Scottish Football are paid well.
Remember to annoy them around their tea time vicinity.

“Should Celtic fans get into the ground, they will not be removed, they will be put into the west stand”

Charlie SaizJuly 9, 2017 at 3:35 pm ·

So if a bunch of cunts turn up masquerading as Tims and break every rule in the book is our then Club then deemed liable through Linfields inadequacy?

Just askin..

Rob O'KeeffeJuly 9, 2017 at 3:53 pm ·

What a daftie.Yeah,guys will turn up wearing Celtic colours,singing rebel songs,riot breaks out,injuries and arrests and when addresses are checked,they all come from “loyalist” areas.Either a Baldrick style plan or British Army “thinking”….

Fair enough,have I mentioned the orphans?…..they’re not smiling…..it’s a shame…

portpowerJuly 9, 2017 at 3:55 pm ·

G`day Charlie,

no UEFA tickets were distributed to Celtic FC.

Linfield FC looking for a draw. O`hahaha.

portpowerJuly 9, 2017 at 4:01 pm ·

Though, saxe-coburg and gotha park`ll be Green and White.

portpowerJuly 9, 2017 at 4:11 pm ·

Chuck the camera the Fenian Flexible Bhird Celtic reps while in the executives box.

MontiJuly 9, 2017 at 3:58 pm ·

CS,
I think that is exactly what he’s hoping for….

Rob O'KeeffeJuly 9, 2017 at 6:32 pm ·

Very perceptive,Erudite…….

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 8:09 pm ·

Monti.. You think who is hoping for what?

BroxburnBhoyJuly 9, 2017 at 8:53 pm ·

I think Charlie has a point – any kind of “incident” which anyone wearing green is involved in will be pounced on by the MSM and reported to EUFA. This match presents only one danger that we get banned or have to play in front of an empty stadium if ther is any kind of disorder. I think that is a real danger

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 5:09 pm ·

The West stand is the one behind the goal. Used to be old spion kop. One of the stands “we” are allocated when plying at windsor park..

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 5:11 pm ·

It runs parallel with boucher road and end of M1

The ChaJuly 9, 2017 at 5:41 pm ·

So do you think it’s a feasible plan and, I assume, Linfield aren’t selling tickets for that stand?

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 5:56 pm ·

CHA… I’D IMAGINE THAT STAND WOULD HAVE BEEN EARMARKED FOR CELTIC FANS AS ACCESS BACK TO BOUCHER ROAD (large retail area) AND WEST BELFAST. AS TICKETS WERE NOT TAKEN I DON’T THINK THEY WOULD HAVE OPENED IT FOR EXTRA LINFIELD FANS. THEY WOULD BE BOUND BY ALLOCATION RULES.

I CAN’T BE SURE OF THAT BUT ALL EVENTUALITIES WOULD PROBABLY BE COVERED

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 5:58 pm ·

AS I WARNED A FEW WEEKS AGO PEOPLE SHOULD NOT SEEK TICKETS OUTSIDE NORMAL CHANNELS

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 7:06 pm ·

CHA… Anyone going to support Celtic at that game without the safety of numbers is putting themselves in danger.
There were so many dimensions to this fame and Celtics decision to decline tickets but I won’t reopen that debate. There was always a possibility of freelance supporters getting tickets not understanding fully the implications.

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 7:08 pm ·

fame = game

The ChaJuly 9, 2017 at 7:29 pm ·

I won’t be going myself, I just wondered whether Celtic fans in Belfast (“A bunch of cunts” fmr Brit Army orifice) NI had heard anything about plans to go.

Rob… Being normal depends on perspective… Of where you are from, what your life experiences have taught you and how you proceed through life armed with that experience!
As for me and my peers we are normal, all things considered. As for you that’s for others to judge

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 7:57 pm ·

ROB… Who are you talking to

Rob O'KeeffeJuly 9, 2017 at 10:02 pm ·

Weered,I was replying to your post at 5.58pm,attempting to be jocular.The posts come through haphazardly and sometimes don’t seem to make sense but often it’s down to the order they come through in……

The Celtic board need to maintain a sustained approach to the search for justice. I don’t think they are really interested, they are forced by supporters and are making token gestures. When nothing is done they will simply say we tried but no one would support us. It will be up to Celtic supporters to keep the pressure on our own board.

Charlie SaizJuly 9, 2017 at 5:01 pm ·

Or alternatively put pressure on your local MP and take the entire control out of the SFAs hands.

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 6:21 pm ·

SAIZ… Political pressure is a positive move if used correctly. Every bit of pressure from bona fide directions will be useful

Celtic125July 9, 2017 at 5:55 pm ·

John
I think it’s worse than token gestures. Looking back on events since Wednesday’s Supreme Court verdict it’s impossible to miss the orchestration of statements from all interested. We caught them out when they tried to wedge Them into the tap tier as the new version but no really if you know what I mean mate wink wink back of the pub in 5! They’re no gonnae make that mistake again. Most of the serious season ticket money has been snaffled so we’re back to arguing and hoping that they would somehow see sense ffs. Well the past five years has taught us The Support nothing. Just words in fact f**king billions of them. We lost. End of. Suck it up.

BroxburnBhoyJuly 9, 2017 at 8:46 pm ·

What makes you think that John? The truth is we are not privy to what the Board at Celtic are thinking or doing outside the public statement. For any Celtic shareholder if you are one – can put forward a motion at the next AGM to instruct the Board to clearly ask for an independent inquiry over the Playing savage the oldco got by paying less tax and being able to sign better players. The Board has asked for a review based on the verdict of the Supreme Court. Supporters groups are slowly but surely asking for the same thing. I’m a little surprised that Hearts especially are silent on this. That said more will come I’m sure. I know you are anti Board and they can do no right for you. Seems like they are playing this very well to me. No shrill hollow calls for collective suicide at least

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 4:49 pm ·

Caption: embarrassed rankers supporters finally realise that Ipox had, for years, fed them a diet of shite and begin to boak it up in private once title stripping commences

portpowerJuly 9, 2017 at 4:57 pm ·

Bassa,I do like our away button-up polo shirt.

Next season i`m hoping for a Saint Mother Teresa Green-Hooped Sari.

portpowerJuly 9, 2017 at 5:04 pm ·

Sir David Murray & The Stolen Bloo Notes;

portpowerJuly 9, 2017 at 5:47 pm ·

🙂

sevconians development squad tour of Tynecastle Amateurs.2-1.

Playing the Cream.

portpowerJuly 9, 2017 at 5:59 pm ·

What degree of skullduggery was in that pen?
Who signed off the registration of rangers(IL)players.

Rebus67July 9, 2017 at 6:14 pm ·

I have seen little of Ntcham but to me he looks a totally different kind of player to Musonda or the Chelsea lad that we were linked with. He looks like a defensive midfielder and not a creative #10.

Time will tell.

Rebus

Charlie SaizJuly 9, 2017 at 6:33 pm ·

Looks like another Wanyama to me Rebus from the footage available.
Which is no bad thing as Bitton is a lightweight in there IMO and gets caught too often the wrong side with balls in behind him.
Normally resulting in a foul.

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 10:00 pm ·

Saiz.. Wanyama mk2 is no had thing 🙂

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 10:57 pm ·

Saiz..
No bad thing ffs

portpowerJuly 9, 2017 at 6:16 pm ·

Vote of no confidence.
Was that not called on in 2012 from a club representative?
Only to be told that this is not the time or place to be called upon.

FFS Campbell Ogilvie was voted back into office and Andrew Dickson still pens.

Uralius it’s one of those things that either way it falls you read it and weep 🙂

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 10:06 pm ·

Paddy Roberts is a tried and tested diamond

UraliusJuly 9, 2017 at 10:37 pm ·

When I watched the video my nipples got hard, then I started to tear up.

MontiJuly 9, 2017 at 10:45 pm ·

Uralius,
If this is true, i’m about to have penetrative relations with my XBox!
Come home Paddy…..

WeeredJuly 9, 2017 at 10:50 pm ·

Monti… Are you going TRON

UraliusJuly 9, 2017 at 11:29 pm ·

Monti,
Careful there, you wouldn’t want it to get the red ring of death.

Charlie SaizJuly 10, 2017 at 12:28 am ·

£7m is nothing for a player of his ability .
If this is a goer Celtic will deal I am sure.
He will be worth 4 or 5 times that when Brendan is done with him no danger.
Sinclair Roberts Forrrest and Hayes 4 quality wingers we could rotate and keep fresh not too mention young Miller learning/developing his trade among them

Get it done Celtic..

MontiJuly 10, 2017 at 1:01 am ·

CS,
Bang on!

Charlie SaizJuly 10, 2017 at 11:07 am ·

I think l just attained my first GOLDEN PISH award fae Monti

highseastimJuly 9, 2017 at 10:34 pm ·

I’d love to see Roberts back, I’ve been watching Skybet the last while, he was 6/4 to rejoin last week, evens in midweek and 10/11 on Friday night, somebody somewhere is confident.

MontiJuly 9, 2017 at 10:45 pm ·

PADDY ROBERTS 7

WhoriskeyJuly 10, 2017 at 1:00 am ·

Mibbe we need to emulate the Undignified and Loyal Losers and start marching! Cross Club support marching up to the SFA (Stupid Fucking Arseholes) creating a din to attract the media and, in this switched on world, it will go global in an hour. The decision to do something will never be achieved by the SFA so we have to go higher…just like our team did. Also, how come in this day and age, has there been no media outcry in Britain and Europe about a Scottish team having to protect its fans from a NIrish team’s fans due to the latter’s religious hatred! Imagine the outcry if an Italian team had to go there as they would get the same treatment merely for their proximity to Rome and their habit of blessing themselves. We’ve got too used to this shite.