Also, I forgot to mention this in my last post, but I mostly used EVE Gate for the broadcast function (although I did like the webmail feature as well). I’m likely one of the few who does, but I’d like to see a return of broadcasts if something like EVE Gate returns.

I am surprised so many people would rather do an alternative service to what CCP retired, instead of putting more weight on CSM or organizing for a week not logging in at all and stopping buying PLEX or paying subscriptions. I dont think its because CCP is worth it, its rather that people want to be organized and have fun, despite CCP doing anything to make it difficult.

Sorry but thats riducolous. After all EVE is a game and things like Eve gate are just the cherry on top. Just because you got used to it doesn’t mean its worth any edtra effort not being put into the actual game.

What extra effort are you talking about?
Anyway, I see people coming up with solutions and that good.
I also think its why CCP can get away with a lot of stuff. Because they have such adult audience that can adult for CCP.

I am using forum modifications, I am using tools provided by community, CCP should be thankffull to have you guys, I mean it.

You can use access lists to easily share a handy list of chars/corps/alliances between your alts/friends, and with such lists, you can do ctrl+A or shift-select many at once, then drag them onto contact window (over the empty area below labels, both personal and corp contact window work). You still have to select level for each contact, but I’ve imported close to a thousand contacts this way, in less than maybe 10 minutes. There are many quirks though, took me lots of trial and error to figure things out.

Dragging from contact window onto access list to export or take backup is very fast, main limit is the contact window only showing 50 at once.

They did? I arrived in 2014 & always loved it had it had some tweaking between then & now?

I did always want Industry, Science & Market orders added so I could check those as well without getting pestered by contacts who wanted to fleet (or fight) or just natter, as an early morning round of checking those things before work (so no time for in-game interactions) has always been a thing.

In b4 …

But 3rd party apps

this is EVE, barring a select few I’m not giving anyone my API, if you (CCP) wanted me to trust with that maybe not pushing the …

You can’t trust anyone

angle so much (one of the bits that attracts me to the game, so maybe not) would have been an idea.

Being able to update those things & the skills queue from it would have been good as well but those are all a wish list for extras to what it had not complaints about what was available which I always liked having the options for.

Out of game management of things such as skill queues, industry, and market orders are, from a player standpoint, a definitive ■■■■ that ■■■■ request. The last thing you’d want is people being able to use the out of game tools to program bots, which is also why ESI is read-only for industry and market orders.

As for your api keys, those are only relevant to XML/CREST, deprecating between December and May. And you understand that ESI tells you exactly what someone is asking to see? See this as an example. It’s very explicit in what it asks you to allow. Dont want it to be able to do that? Hit cancel and go about your life. Change your mind later on? That’s a bit more difficult 'cause the SSO team is bogged down by literally everything and the interface for doing that is a bit more tedious.

And as @Steve_Ronuken has said, ESI application devs (not ccp devs) cannot use any information provided by a user’s access authorization in an EVESkunk style. We do, CCP shuts down our app access and quite likely bans us from being able to develop any other apps (you need an eve account to log in to the app dev site). Frankly, EVESkunk was only possible because people dont periodically invalidate their old API keys, and the XML api provided a means for scraping through evemails to siphon off more keys, which yielded more points of entry for an eve-style ‘wiretap.’ If Steve tried that, he’d be out the door as an ESI app dev damn quick, and would crash and burn his reputation as well

The iOS version says “search” now. My main complaint with it before was when you replied to a mail, the textbox was only one line tall, which means you stopped seeing what you typed very quickly. It works now.