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Tony Blair’s Sister-in-Law Converts to Islam

Recently UK Soccer Star Marlon King had joined the enemy, and converted to Islam. To make matters worse, Lauren Booth who is sister in law of Tony Blair, has also converted to Islam.

Booth who recently had some kind of Islamic “awakening”, had converted after protesting against Israel with a million hatemongers in Iran.

Anyway, yesterday, I stood in the midst of more than one million Iranian Muslims all chanting in unison ‘Marg Bar Isre-hell!’ and ‘Marg Bar Am-ri-ca!’ You know what that means Tony I’m sure; ‘Down with Israel, down with America’. The men, women and children around me withstood a day of no water and no food (it’s called Ramadan, Tony, it’s a fast). Coping with hunger and thirst in the hundred degrees heat, as if it were nothing. They can withstand deprivation in the Muslim world. Here in Iran they feel proud to suffer in order to express solidarity with the people of Palestine.

Sadly it is obvious that Booth does not mind that Islam is slowly devouring the UK.

136 comments for “Tony Blair’s Sister-in-Law Converts to Islam”

Guys. It doesn’t work. I have tried. I could not make one single convert in one year. Nobody wants to know about Islam, and they would even become violent if you insisted.
The only way is to learn from the enemy. All politicians are currently frightened by Muslim intimidation and assassination campaign. They are frying us because we are not dangerous. The Muslims have two hands, the terrorist hand, and the “moderate” hand. They claim to have nothing in common but they are attached to the same body, the Islam. Politicians are terrorised by the terrorists, and they favor the “moderates” over their own people. That’s what happens. It is time we learn from our enemies, there is no time for more elaborate thinking. It is time our own politicians fear US. I am so sorry to say this you can’t believe. Please, if you have any better thought, come up with it. I want to live, I want to fight for my own life. I find out fighting for my own life may mean murdering people. Unless nobody comes up with a better idea, I will be doomed for fighting for my own life, and for the lives of all that I love. I will go to Hell if I have to, because I don’t see any way out. If Muslim terrorists have their way just by threatening families of our lawmakers, I have to counter-threat them. I have to counter. Counter-terrorism is I’m afraid nothing but doing exactly what they’re doing, only faster and better. Counter me on that. And remember, how many “converts” you made in the last year, against Islam.

Look Booth is just like that other reporter who reverted into a Muslim baghead. Real active in London. Can’t remember her name. She never made it big in journalism and so she sees her ticket, and it is propagandist for the ummah. The MSM eats it up! Ergo, Booth. Poison for the Jews and Israel run in her veins. Her hatred for Judaism is like my hatred for Islam. Our justifications are different. Mine makes sense, hers do not. How many Jews are on a jihad to kill or enslave me and my society? Jews run a lot of businesses and are big in politics and government. It’s true. And I don’t like liberal Jews, who does!?

There are no scriptures in Judaism calling for the enslavement or murder of the nonbelievers. There is no ‘our way or the highway’ demand from the Jews.

So there goes Lauren, so poisoned with her hatred of the Jews, reciting the death pledge and becoming a Mohammedan. No research, now she’s on page 60 of the koran. Does she realize how stupid she sounds? Useful idiot indeed. But she is also in it for the propaganda gig. And what is it with that clown outfit at the deathseekers meeting? Looks like Santa Claus. Has she gotten huge? I’ve seen pictures of her before and she was much slimmer.

I considered Tony Blair a major asshole long before I read about his sister-in-law. It might even be a good thing as it will probably embarass the former PM. I’m sure he’s not happy about it, nor is his wife Cherie. Ever heard of bad karma, Tony?

She’s turned her back on much, much more than her country.
She’s disowned individualism, denigrated her own individuality.
Perhaps she feels so vacuous that Islam was the only thing that could make her feel like a human being.
No integrity. No depth. That’s what I find in these female converts to Islam.

if Christianity is the true religion, in the name of liberty they have degraded the status of women to a sexual object.Is this the way mother Mary used to live.Mother Mary used head scarf.wot sooo strange when a convert to Islam wears the head scarf.

Riaz, It’s very intellectually dishonest of you to compare islam to christianity when it suits you. Do not pick and choose and then make loose associations. There is absolutely no comparison between the two, starting with the fact that islam is not a religion. Leave christianity out of the discussion, the two are mutually exclusive. Thank you.

The two religions are not similar. If they were, there would be no need to compare.

jhan6120

July 16, 2012 at 5:41 pm

“That is exactly why one draws comparisons!

The two religions are not similar. If they were, there would be no need to compare.”

I don’t think it’s possible to be more intellectually dishonest than this statement.

eib

July 17, 2012 at 4:11 am

Again.
There are no comparisons between Islam & Christianity.
There are ONLY contrasts.

Raj

June 13, 2011 at 12:14 pm

Christine, It’s pathetic about your view about Islam. I am a Hindu. Even i have studied both the religions. From all the three, i mean Hinduism, Christian & Muslims, i came to the conclusion that Islam is having deep roots..even about how world has formed and reason for everything which you dont see in any religion. Christianity in the mean time is degrading in some parts of the world. Islam also is been misunderstood very badly by some terrorists or some illeterate rascals.

admin,
First ..try to respect religions..even if it’s hinduism or Christianity or Islam.
u r a misunderstood chap..)) let me tell you somebody has given you false informations..Try to get a translated version of Quran and read it. What i understood from quran is that, Mohammed the prophet (peace be up on him)is the best human being ever made by God(allah). Quran itself is a book brought from heaven..and Mohammad(pbh)he was made of light…unlike us..light doesnot make shadow…even mohammad(pbh)doesn’t have shadows….Is in’t that a miracle..read quran ..man..i do respect Islam…and Christianity…all though the base is same…Hinduism is on a different platform though.

admin

June 13, 2011 at 1:00 pm

1. You don’t dictate what I do.
2. Mohammad was a liar, rapist, terrorist, and slave owner. He deserves no respect.
3. I have read the Koran. PROVE me wrong.

eib

June 13, 2011 at 2:29 pm

In the eyes of a Muslim, a Hindu doesn’t have the right to live.
How can any Hindu write in defense of Islam?
I know.
A Muslim that is trying to impersonate a Hindu!

If pislam is the true religion, in the name of stoopidity they have degraded the status of arselifters to retarded objects. This is the way father mahound used to live. Father mahound used bushy beard and silly hat.

at least in islam the QURAN has never been changed in over 1400 years unlike the bible which was changed from day one. ask him 2 read about true islam rather then reading bull shit from the a zionist controled press.

“at least in islam the QURAN has never been changed in over 1400 years . . .”

In Islamic theology, new interpretation trumps old interpretation, so either your statement is a lie, or you don;t know what you’re talking about.

I see you’re also a Jew hater. NICE. Jealous much??

eib

October 26, 2010 at 12:19 pm

Islam is a law code.
Shariah.
Look at the status of women under Shariah. This is what women are in Islam– half-men.
In the West, all are equal before the law.
One law for every member of every faith and members of none.
The difference is screaming in your ear. And you still don’t know it.

eib have u ever ready any thing
onislamic civilization, if you cannot
read i understand, Islam first religion to give rights to women, when christians
were burning them.
u may not know ur history, but we do.
ur ignorant.

People care about today, and Islam discriminates against women. You trying to put the focus on the past will not work here.

New Crusader

October 26, 2010 at 3:13 pm

S: You truly are one conceited islamidiot. This is not about dueling religions. Yes you are a threat to Europe and all over the world. What you people have done is disgraceful, and you want to disguise it with a religious mask. Your putrid behavior has brought nothing but death and misery all over the world, and your filthy leader pales in comparison to what has come after. It is truly hard to call it civilized. Regardless of what anyone else does you still have to account for yourself.

eib

October 26, 2010 at 5:38 pm

The crimes of the past do not excuse the crimes of the present.
Muslims are burning, stoning, and half-valuing women in the here and now.

eib eats the filthest animal in the face of the earth, THE PIG

October 27, 2010 at 12:49 pm

in the west women have no rights retard but in islam they have not equal but have more rights to men. if women are equal to men inj the west y r they not paid the same amount to men.

Ok I’ve had enough! In the Koran women are liken to animals and referred to sa mentally deficient. Women are property and their word is worth 1/2 that bof a man. If a woman is raped she is STONED to death. Her husband can marry 3 more women if she divorces the bastard she cannot keep her children, women cannot work outside the home soo your ignorant remark about equal pay is just that an ignorant remark. btw I make more than my husband and we DO HAVE THE SAME JOB! I am a devout Protestant christian and your remarks about Christianity are false and your view of Jesus is pure blasphemy.

eib

October 27, 2010 at 1:23 pm

Hell of a thing to say about a VEGETARIAN!
Halal is not better.

admin

October 27, 2010 at 4:31 pm

So you are saying that women in the West do not have the right to vote? Actually under Islam, women have less rights than men. Court testimony is just one example. You will now be banned for posting under multiple names from the same IP address.

Riaz: Since you would like to talk about sexual immorality, perhaps you can explain Bacha Bazi. Or would you like to try to explain why MooHamMad (no peace is in him) thought sexual abuse of captive women was so pure. Just a couple of things to explain out of a 1400 year history of all sorts of abuses.
And while your at it you might ask yourself how may children did Mary send (her own or others) to murder in the name of allah (no peace is in him). Rather, it seems she sent a son to execution on behalf of others. Think about this if you can. Try to think about the actual person Mary who lived in the 1st century, not about the made up stuff found in so much other literature like the Hideous Quran. And don’t deviate to Christianity. If it never existed, muslims (no peace in them) would still have to explain themselves.

The Muslims don’t have to explain anything to anyone except God and so do you. However we can share thoughts with each other.

There is a vast difference between culture and religion and the West’s problem is that, at least in Islam’s case, they equate the two. Yes, the West is facing problems (a lot of which it helped, wittingly or unknowingly, create) with the Muslims and we all know that but that doesn’t mean you have to have a problem with Islam as well. I can only hope you come to “realize” what I am trying to sincerely convey.

So, there are cultures with a Muslim majority. However, whether they truly follow the teachings or not is hardly ever given any consideration. Makes it too complicated for the Black & White world view of most of the West’s population, to even try. Everyone seems to be looking for quick and short answers to their most immediate problems. It seems that they live their lives at such a fast pace that they have left themselves, confused and alone, far behind.

BachaBazi is a cultural ill and is not Islamic at all although you flowingly refer to it as it were. Accounts of the so called “sexual abuse of captive women”, as you refer to it, have been distorted beyond recognition throughout history by people who were not too pleased with the new religion (at that time). If you have the time or inclination, try reading history and listen to different views to draw an objective conclusion.

The Quran speaks of the Virgin Mary (Peace be upon her) in the most beautiful of words and if you want to have a perspective about modesty, something Islam (and Christianity) asserts, then try googling Wendy Shalit or Roger Devlin. You can then, again if you feel so inclined, read up some more about Islam and perhaps, one day, see the wisdom behind the Islamic ideals of Hijab and Modest behavior for both men and women.

Lastly you seem to have preconceived notions about the Quran and I can bet my life that you have never personally read it.

The West has a huge problem with Islam, and the push for Sharia. The Koran clearly calls for the taking of sex slaves, this is not a distortion, and the Islamic scriptures also state that Jesus will come back as a Muslim and destroy Christianity. Why didn’t you mention this?

I have read the Islamic scriptures, anything time you want to debate me on them just let me know. I’ll start…..Islam calls for the dominance of non-Muslims, as per Koran verse 9:29.

eib

November 16, 2010 at 3:46 pm

The Quran has a specific imperative that non-Muslim populations are to “feel themselves to be subdued” in relation to Muslims.
Basically what that means is that any outrage, act of violence, vandalism, rape, murder is permissible if it produces the result that the non-Muslim population “feels … subdued.”
We in the West have no such scriptural imperatives.
Our philosophy has never demanded or implied that we do such things.
Western imperialism was the project not of the poor and rich alike, but of the elites and the pressures they put on the poor.
Individualism has nothing to do with repressing “others.” It is the unconditional recognition that the individual has worth outside Islam, outside religion itself, outside nation and community. Your culture boasts no such idea.
In our culture, any agreement a person makes under duress is invalid and has no standing in law.
In your culture, when you put your sword to the throat of the infidel and force him to submit, your sword is favored above his desires.
Therefore, Islam is anti-individualistic and favors the use of force.
And it always has.

AmericanMe

November 16, 2010 at 8:25 pm

Islam suffers most from the “black and white world view” westerners are far more complex. Only juvenile men who have never been exposed to women would need to keep women imprisoned behind 40 yards of cloth obliterating both their identity and their humanity and relegating them to a second class status. Like hijabs? fine wear em but do not impose your Jr Hi school phobias on others as you aim to via sharia law.

btw Just saw a fantastic documentary on dogs. Seems 50 years of research has determined that the human race could not have evolved much beyond hunter gatherers without them. But muslims want to murder peoples dogs and wont even let seeing eye dogs ride the bus with them. You are just such vile hate filled people. and so unlike us in every way.

jhan6120

July 16, 2012 at 5:49 pm

“There is a vast difference between culture and religion.”

No there isn’t. Culture and religion are inextricably intertwined. It is beyond intellectually dishonest, and completely ahistorical, to claim otherwise.

“Makes it too complicated for the Black & White world view of most of the West’s population, to even try.”

And I suppose your attempts at dissimulation show a grasp of ‘nuance’ and complexity? SPARE ME.

Sebs

November 3, 2010 at 7:01 pm

Riaz,

You are a damned idiot. Let me prove my statement. I want you to show where in the Christian scripture women are said to sexual objects. Show us where Mary used a head scarf.
Now about sexual objects, you are speaking of Islam. Firstly there is no such rape of a wife by a husband in Islam. If a wife says no and the husband forces her physically Islam per the Koran says that is okay( sura 2:223. What is Muta, Riaz? Who okayed Muta?
answer and we can discuss further what it is you follow. Also bring the text that shows that Christian women are to be made sexual objects.
Taqiyya dancing is fun I bet.

It is so interesting that you complain of Muslims doing this and doing that ((murdering people and dogs, making women sex slaves and imposing Hijab on Jr Hi!!)) and then you seamlessly bring in Islam while drawing negative conclusions. I will say that you only see what you WANT to see.

I can empathize with your horrified concern regarding Muslims and all things even remotely Islamic. For me, all of you are no less and no more human than I am!

What I have come to know about your thought processes from your posts is that:

1. Non-muslims are second class citizens under Muslim rule and MUST be vandalized, raped or pressurized with violent means to keep them that way?

2. Muslims oppose individuality?

3. Muslims are juvenile and cannot be exposed to women unless they (the women) are covered in 40 yards of cloth?

4. Muslims consider women as sex objects?

I can convincingly debate otherwise. Your assertions are based on superficial observation and out-of-context interpretation of the Quran, driven by a sense of fear and insecurity.

There are complex social dynamics involved in the relationship between Western society, the Muslims living there and their own fears of losing what they hold to be true. I also know of the fears of Islamization of the West and the gradual erosion of whatever Westerners consider as Western values. Of course, you simply MUST have someone to blame and the Muslims are a very convenient scapegoat at the moment. Previously it used to be the communists.

I will now assume, just for the sake of making a point, that the Christian People, the West / Western culture and the Religion of Christianity, are one and the same thing. They have the same historical roots, don’t they??? Although, the West did have problems with Christianity during the renaissance but I will assume, in gentle reciprocation to your own insistence about Muslims, their cultural practices and Islam, that the whole Western thing is one big pot-pourri in a huge common cauldron. So, whatever comes out of the pot is a taste of the same dish.

Lets keep deeper academic debates aside for a while and take a very brief history lesson.

Do you remember the West’s fetish for teaching the savages, the ways of what you considered to be civilization?

Do you know about the brutal invasions of eastern lands, throughout the centuries, by the French, Portuguese, Spanish and the British?

Do you know of the massacre of the natives in North America?

Do you know about the relegation of the Aboriginals, the natives of Australia to 4th rate status?

Do you still remember the slave trade from Africa and the treatment of African slaves bought and sold like cattle to work in in-human conditions on farms in America?

Do you remember the witch hunts, the mass murders and the burning of innocent women at the stake?

Are you aware that church fathers used to assert that women do not have a soul and thus hardly human at all!??

Are you also aware that woman was considered to be “THE” Sinner in Christianity when she caused Adam’s eviction from the Garden and must pay for her sin by being considered less than human?

It is all western history, isn’t it? Thus all of this was what Christianity preached and thus is a part of Christianity and Western civilization.

I will now proceed to deduce thus,

1. Christianity and Western culture promotes slavery and slave auctions.

2. Christianity considered women to be soul-less beings who didn’t have any rights, whatsoever! (The feminist movement is a very recent phenomenon, FYI)

Well, it is not that simple, is it? It is a complex issue in exactly the way Islam and Muslim culture is not any of the things you superficially claim them to be.

It is just your past coming back to haunt you.

We are all in the same boat and the sooner we solve our mutual issues through dialog, the better. Lets forget the past and look towards the future in mutual understanding.

Ponder!

P.S. If you want academic debates about 9:29 and other issues you are welcome to email me.

Ansar said: “I can convincingly debate otherwise. Your assertions are based on superficial observation and out-of-context interpretation of the Quran, driven by a sense of fear and insecurity.”

You claim you can, but all you do is try to shift the focus to past history of non-Muslims. Sorry, that does not work here. I fully Islam, and I also understand that you are here in an attempt to whitewash the threat of Islam. It will not work, and there is no reason to email you. Say it here.

admin

November 17, 2010 at 4:09 am

BTW, your scriptures promote slavery, and you calling me insecure is comical. Let me save you some time, nothing you say will make me waver on this issue. Your religion will continue to be fought.

eib

November 17, 2010 at 7:00 am

You can convincingly debate otherwise.
Though we dignify the individual, we also dignify history, text, and culture.
Individualism does not mean that the individual is the final authority in all things.
With respect to yourself, your experience of Islam, you are the final authority.
But Islam has an objective existence in history and the present that goes far beyond anything you may say.

This “sense of fear and insecurity” is not personal to us.
It is in our culture, civilization, in history.
It has an objective existence and it isn’t a matter of just wishing it away.
The Occident and Orient will forever be divided. Get used to it.

The men who blew up the WTC,
took the Achille Lauro hostages,
do honor killing
stone women on subjective evidence
all called themselves Muslims.
They all read the same scriptures you do.
They went to mosques.
They all worshipped God.
And they all committed murder.
Were they virtuous?
Does the Second Commandment mean anything in Islam? Because from what I’ve seen, it doesn’t.
But then, Muslims consider the infidel scriptures to be errant and profane.

You refer joyfully to the imperialism of the 1850s through 1920s.
You say nothing about the imperialism of the 700s through 1600s.
Remember, Islamic imperialism.
It lasted longer and was far bloodier than the West ever did.
The West plundered oil and jewels.
The East took slaves and demanded that people from different religions wear badges to single them out for violence.

The slave trade in Africa?
I don’t just remember it– I see it now.
Muslim slave traders never stopped their business.
And in the Sudan, they’ve found a great place for raiding and taking slaves.
IN THE PRESENT DAY.

eib

June 13, 2011 at 3:01 pm

Quote:
It is just your past coming back to haunt you.
end

You are a would-be invader who was frustrated in the Early Modern Era.
You have come back to try to finish the evil you started.
We will destroy you, we will discredit Islam, and your Oriental perspective.
You are an Oriental despot.
A would-be owner of slaves.
Damn you straight to hell.

eib

July 17, 2012 at 4:15 am

Quote:
Lets keep deeper academic debates aside for a while and take a very brief history lesson.
end

This is what the Ummah demands– a society in which “deeper academic debates” are reserved to Islamic authorities, and the rest are silenced.
I know about Islam, not from the point of view of the Muslim conqueror and oppressor, but from the point of view of the people Islam dominated.
Their stories are far from pretty.

Dear if Christianity is not a true religion. Then why Muslim accept it as a religion. 2nd thing the why Muhammad says that kill the non-Muslim and there wife and children’s will your salves. Islam give a open hand for a sex with other, even you can do the sex with your own sister in law,if you not believe it check it out dear.

Okay, page 60. . . how on earth do people convert when they KNOW NOTHING???? Why would they do this? What a stupid moronic idiot. Did you see the video? In it, she says she loved that the Muslims really loved eachother. Moron. They love death even more.

Islam is a direct threat to Western Civilization.
To convert to Islam is to abandon the whole of one’s history, to refuse to learn any more of it, and to force others into the same ignorance as one’s self.

Ibe Hooper your man at CAIR and Rauf the Ground Zero rabbat man booth openly state they want to abolish the US constitution and replace it with sharia. That is a clear and present threat to the US,

Muslims march around burning and destroying Europe carrying signs that say Sharia law for Europe and “To hell with democracy” That is a clear and present threat to those countries. If you like stonings and beatings so much why not go live in an islamic country where this is family entertainment. We DON’T WANT IT!

There is a new mental sickness in town. Its called f**kwitism.
This smacks of desperation, a women with a failed career in British journalism seeking publicity by converting to an backward ideology or it could be something as simple as securing her position on Press TV, the English-language Iranian news channel.

The media here, are renowned by the awake among us for using stories like this to deflect the ignorant masses attention away from real life changing and emotive stories. The difficulties this time is that there is numerous things that are happening here politically that will be forgotten about and hidden away , that it could be any number of things. The EU membership 6% rise, the 500,000 civil servant jobs to go, the overcrowding in our schools by immigrants, wages being stagnated, all services being cut while the ‘overseas’ aid is being increased etc. Small things maybe but each in itself will have a devastating effect on the present or future economical stability of the indigenous populace.

She is being quoted in the press. ‘Who knows where my spiritual journey will take me?’ I imagine to a very dark place. If she wants to forfeit her rights and freedoms as a woman, let her. Such is the fate for the lost and weak-minded.
Funny thing is that apparently she is a human rights activist. I can’t wait for her to start speaking out about Islamic breaches of human rights to its followers.

I have a feeling she already converted some time ago, but press tv are using this as a publicity stunt for Iran. Seeing as she and her children are OWNED by them, lock stock and stinking barrel!

Just like Yvonne Ridley, another press tv puppet, who apparently converted after being shown the way by Taliban fighters who “kidnapped” her in Afghanistan when she was a journo. Apparently she was married to a muslim and had probably converted some years before!!

So, would somebody tell this cow and her two little blond daughters to put on their full length burqa tents and walk 10 steps behind daddy like dogs/cattle/sheep!!We’ll see how long they like IZ SLAM!Maybe they just realized the only way to assure not to get gang raped or beaten to death by gangs of “Asians” In England was to convert and cover up?? Not to worry America, I’m sure that would never happen here!

Thanks for this post Chris, it’s so good to have a laugh now and then. Aside from the unmitigated stupidity of this woman, who has been so moved by a mob mentality ( who I’m sure are forced to attend these demos), it’s that easy to covert to islam? No classes, no catechesis, just jump in anytime and poof! you’re muslim. What a maroon.

If you follow your feelings and desires, and you are a religious person, you are doomed.
Feelings don’t bring about conversion to holiness.
Islam is a profane religion, the utterance of a false prophet.
It draws a person inward, makes him or her narcissistic. Look into your desires and you’ll find hell quickly.

No. That’s the truth.
Feelings will destroy your soul.
Your feelings of hatred for the people who post here already have destroyed you.
The objective here is the preservation of Western Civilization– a culture you know nothing of.
Islamo non parebo. Numquam.

Firstly you all need to go do your research on islam!! You will find that it is the true religion and there is no GOD but ALLAH the ONE! And muhammed pbuh is his messanger.

Secondly you all sound like a bunch of uneducated, uncultured idiots!
May Allah swt guide you all to the right path of ISLAM!

Every comment left on this page is absolutely false and Pathetic! If only you all knew the truth you would find that Islam is the religion of peace.. You pick and choose various sentences of our holy book and quotes of our beloved prophet and you take it out of context!

What a bunch of losers! You need deliverance to the truth! And believing in one Allah and his prophet pbuh is the only way to save yourselves.. Some food for thought! Have a blessed day!

You obviously have serious issues. Why do you put so much time and effort into hating Muslims and Islam?

I really believe that you are almost trying to make yourself believe that Islam is this vicious dictating religion..?when actually it’s not! Maybe deep down you actually have faith! 🙂

I can give you plenty of evidence that you have taken those sentences out of context but it’s like 2am here in England! So I will leave it for tomorrow.. In the meantime you may want to read the paragraph fully and try to comprehend what Allah is saying… Islam does NOT allow unlawful killings.. In fact even Christian/athiest intellectuals trust and agree with the teachings/knowledge of the Quran and our beloved prophets sayings! Please please open your mind and heart and look into this great religion!

Islam is a major threat to Western Civilization, and it is a vicious dictating religion. As it calls for the dominance of non-Muslims. Islam allows the killing of anyone “spreading mischief” in the land. That can be almost anything.

in Islam We believe in the teachings of the Torah and the old testament! But we don’t follow either religion because over time man has corrupted the ORIGINAL texts for petty gains.. If you do your research you will find that both scripts have been altered important teachings have been taken out nd replaced. Some of the oldest bibles look and contain almost identical teachings of those found in the holy Quran! Christianity is 2000 years old.. Over that time period it’s been change many times! Allah sent the final message to humanity in through prophet Mohammed pbuh! Allah has promised that the holy book and final message will never be altered and infact this is true to this day.. The holy Quran has not had a single letter changed in over 1400 years?!! How about that? In fact Islam tells us to keep good ties and peace with all religions and faiths! What you all see and hear in the media is one-sided nonsense!

I am not religious, and Islam is just a con by Mohammad. The verses were made up to justify his actions at the time. These are not good ties.

Koran verse 005.051
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

Koran verse 009.029
YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Koran verse 008.055
YUSUFALI: For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: They will not believe.
I have not learned about Islam from the media.

Islam clearly allows the taking of sex slaves. That is rape.

Koran verse 004.024
YUSUFALI: Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.

The meaning of what “right hands possess” is explained in Islamic Law, the Koran, and the ahadith.

“The Reliance of the Traveller, A Classic Manual of Islamic Scared Law”
This book has the stamp of approval of Al Azhar, the highest learning Islamic school in the world.

Justice Chapter: Jihad
THE RULES OF WARFARE

o9.13 When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman’s previous marriage is immediately annulled.

This is backed up by other Koran verses.

033.050
YUSUFALI: O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

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YUSUFALI: But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good: but fear Allah: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

You see, the scriptures prove your words to be meaningless.

Servant of Allah the almighty

October 27, 2010 at 6:49 pm

That’s absolute nonsense!! nowhere in any teaching does it allow the “dominance” of non believers! It allows everyone to practice what they choose.
Yes there are rules in islam ie. To
cover up (modest dressing) these teachings are in christianity and judism as well and it’s actually proven to be beneficial in society.. Women are less likely to get raped Andmurdered. But hey without rules and laws wouldn’t society just fall apart? Any law that has been set by Allah is of benefit to humanity.. Another example.. Intoxication ie alcohol/drug abuse firstly alcohol damages your major organs.. When you drink you become this person you’re not.. You often become violent and act shamelessly and mostly commit crimes when under the influence. these are just a few reasons why it’s unlawful to drink alcohol in Islam and don’t you thinkit’s actually a good thing? Not to eat pork … Pigs are one of the worlds dirtiest creatures.. They carry diseases and eat almost ANYTHING.. As the saying goes you are what you eat! Pork

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October 27, 2010 at 7:06 pm

Islam calls for the dominance of non-Muslims.

JUSTICE CHAPTER: NON-MUSLIM SUBJECTS OF THE ISLAMIC STATE (AHL AL-DHIMMA)

o11.1 A formal agreement of protection is made with citizens who are:

(1) Jews;

(2) Christians;

(3) Zoroastrians;

(4) Samarians and Sabians, if their religions do not respectively contradict the fundamental bases of Judaism and Christianity;

(5) and those who adhere to the religion of Abraham or one of the other prophets (upon whom be blessings and peace).

o11.2 Such an agreement may not be effected with those who are idol worshippers, or those who do not have a Sacred Book or something that could have been a book.
(A: Something that could have been a Book refers to those like the Zoroastrians, who have remnants resembling an ancient Book. As for the psuedoscriptures of cults that have appeared since Islam (n: such as the Sikh, Baha’is, Mormons, Qadianis, etc.) they are neither are nor could be a Book since the Koran is the final revelation.)

o11.3 Such an agreement is only valid when the subject peoples:

(a) follow the rules of Islam (o11.5) (A: those mentioned below (o11.5) and those involving public behavior and dress, though in acts of worship and their private lives, the subject communities have their own laws, judges, and courts, enforcing the rules of their own religion among themselves);

(b) and pay the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya)

THE NON-MUSLIM POLL TAX

o11.4 The minimum non-Muslim poll tax is on dinar (n: 4.235 grams of gold) per person (A: per year) The maximum is whatever both sides agree upon.
It is collected with leniency and politeness, as are all debts, and it not levied on women, children, or the insane.

o11.5 Such non-Muslim subjects are obliged to comply with Islamic rules that pertain to the safety and indemnity of life, reputation, and property. In addition, they:

(1) are penalized for committing adultery or theft, though not for drunkenness:

(2) are distinguished from Muslims in dress, wearing a wide cloth belt (zunnar)

(3) are not greeted with “as-Salamu ‘alaykun”;

(4) must keep to the side of the street;

(5) may not build higher than or as high as the Muslims’ buildings, though if they acquire a tall house, it is not razed;

(6) are forbidden to openly display wine or pork (A: to ring church bells or display crosses,) recite the Torah or Evangel aloud, or make public display of their funerals and feastdays;

(7) and are forbidden to build new churches

o11.6 They are forbidden to reside in the Hijaz, meaning the area and towns around Mecca, Medina, and Yamama, for more than three days (when the caliph allows them to enter there for something they need).

o11.7 A non-Muslim may not enter the Meccan Sacred Precinct (Haram) under any circumstances, or enter any other mosque without persmission (A: nor may Muslims enter churches without their permission).

o11.8 It is obligatory for the caliph to protect those of them who are in Muslim lands just as he would Muslims, and to seek the release of those captured.

o11.9 If non-Muslim subjects of the Islamic state refuse to conform to the rules of Islam or pay the non-Muslim poll tax, than their agreement with the state has been violated. (dis: o11.11) (A: though if only one of them disobeys, it concerns him alone).

o11.10 The agreement is also violated (A: with respect to the offender alone) if the state has stipulated that any of the following things break it, and one of the subjects does so anyway, though if the state has not stipulated that these break the agreement, then they do not; namely, if one of the subject people:

(1) commits adultery with a Muslim woman or marries her;

(2) conceals spies of hostile forces;

(3) leads a Muslim away from Islam;

(4) kills a Muslim;

(5) or mentions something impermissible about Allah, the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), or Islam.

o11.11 When a subject’s agreement with the state has been violated, the caliph chooses between the four alternatives mentioned in connection with prisoners of war (o9.14).

PRISONERS OF WAR

o9.14 When an adult male is taken captive, the caliph considers the interests
(O: of Islam and the Muslims) and decides between the prisoner’s death, slavery, release without paying anything, or ransoming himself in exchange for money or a Muslim captive held by the enemy.
If the prisoner becomes a Muslim (O: before the caliph chooses any of the four alternatives) then he may not be killed , and one of the other three alternatives is

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October 27, 2010 at 7:08 pm

The taking of sex slaves is of no benefit to humanity, and if people want to drink responsibly that is up to them. Funny, but in my entire life I have not know anyone to get sick from eating pork. I’ll eat what I want.

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October 27, 2010 at 7:08 pm

Still waiting for you to prove that I am taking the verses out of context.

If you read what comes before and after those paragraphs it may make it easier to understand.. When Allah was talking about Jews and Christians he was talking about a specific incident where the Jews and Christians ambushed the prophet pbuh and his followers while being under their protection. You are so taking these paragraphs out of context! Read it properly and understand why a quater of te worlds population is Turing to Islam! Read about the Quran and science.. The biography of the prophet pbuh.. Do you know that he was voted the worlds most influential man of all time? By an western intellectual? You need to look properly and maybe that restlessness you have deep down will
disappear!

The verse clearly says not to take Jews and Christians as friends, and 9:29 calls for the dominance of them. The Koran also states the actions of Mohammad are to be followed for all times. Most Muslims are born into Islamic families, and many are afraid to leave. I have read about Mohammad the terrorist and rapist. I don’t respect him.

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YUSUFALI: Do they then seek after a judgment of (the days of) ignorance? But who, for a people whose faith is assured, can give better judgment than Allah?

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YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

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YUSUFALI: Those in whose hearts is a disease – thou seest how eagerly they run about amongst them, saying: “We do fear lest a change of fortune bring us disaster.” Ah! perhaps Allah will give (thee) victory, or a decision according to His will. Then will they repent of the thoughts which they secretly harboured in their hearts.

Yes a man allowed more than one wife… But that comes with strict rules and Allah is the most wise he knows that there are more women
to men etc

As for jizya … Poll tax.. In western society do we not pay tax for the running of the country? Yes so why is it so different to practice this in Muslim countries? It’s a choice to live there under the protection of the Muslims… Society before Islam was digraceful! Mothers were marrying their sons, people killed eachother over petty reasons, rapes and robberies were in abundance people were barbaric!!! Islam changed society completely.. Please look into this before making assumptions and taking words out of context!

Koran verse 004.024
YUSUFALI: Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.

The meaning of what “right hands possess” is explained in Islamic Law, the Koran, and the ahadith.

“The Reliance of the Traveller, A Classic Manual of Islamic Scared Law”
This book has the stamp of approval of Al Azhar, the highest learning Islamic school in the world.

Justice Chapter: Jihad
THE RULES OF WARFARE

o9.13 When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman’s previous marriage is immediately annulled.

This is backed up by other Koran verses.

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YUSUFALI: O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

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YUSUFALI: But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good: but fear Allah: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

We pay taxes and get equal rights. That is not the case with jizya. Right, Christians cannot wait to live under Islamic Law….

I have looked into it, and you have provided nothing to back up your statements.

Now that I have proven that Islam allows the taking of sex slaves, do you still support Islam? People care about today, and Islam belongs in the past. BTW, most of those things still occur today, so Islam has not changed society completely.

Christians did not choose to live in your lands your murdering terrorist prophet sneaked in to their countries at night while they slept and mudered them in their beds then stole their lands and reduced them to dhimmitude. You stole their lands and are at it again in the west. My forefathers came here for religious freedom and fought in the Revolutionary war and now you are here demanding outrageous accomodations under the guise of religious freedom all the while planning to rob everyone else of their freedom of religion. You are truly the vilest creatures on the face of the earth. I am so thankful that I know the true God the God of love. I am a Christian and you are murdering Christians right and left in your countries that you stole and you are murdering them in horrific ways and for no reason other than they are Christians. Burning a man alive because he is a Christian? Really? How savage! Your Allah is all for this kind of horrible murder. Stop lecturing us and get your own house in order.

I’m not lecturing anyone! I’m merely supporting the words of truth: from ALLAH!

You clearly know little about Islam and our beloved prophets pbuh teachings! I suggest you LEARN about Islam! Jesus is NOT god the concept of the trinity doesn’t even make sense. Jesus himself taught us to believe in ONE god. If you read the original texts you will find that jesus prophecised the coming of another… “a comfortater” who will bring truth!! (prophet Mohammed pbuh) Do you even know what youare practicing? Please go do some research!! Saying that Islam isn’t modern.. So Christianity, judism and Hinduism is much older than Islam .., so what do you make o those religions??

You say that it’s only Muslims that are involved in warfare… In fact Islam doesn’t allow warfare… But only to retaliate… If your mother, child, sister is being raped and murdered, if you were driven out of your homes wouldn’t you do something about it?? So it’s ok for the west ie. The crusaders to kill and murder innocent people? But it’s not acceptable for Muslims to defend themselves? Never have Muslims invaded any country but spread the truth about the true and FINAL message from Allah! In doing so leaders waged war against the prophet pbuh. Go and learn before you make assumptions!!!

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October 28, 2010 at 7:00 am

You are wrong, there is an offensive jihad.

Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:

Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’ And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.” Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, “O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?” He replied, “Whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’, faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have.”

Of course Muslims have invaded other countries. The Middle East (outside of Israel), was not always Islamic. You might want to ask the Coptics of Egypt about this.

Servant of Allah the almighty

October 28, 2010 at 4:41 am

Islam never allows innocent people to be mistreated… Our beloved prophet pbuh would never “sneak in and murder anyone”.. You really don’t have a clue…. Like I said go and do some research instead of making up rubbish that has no depth or ounce of truth! Intellectuals are coming to Islam.. If you have any real intelligence you would read and researh before coming out with utter nonsense!!

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October 28, 2010 at 6:57 am

Islam allows the murder of anyone “spreading mischief” in the land. As per Koran verse 5:32. That can be defined as almost anything.

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October 28, 2010 at 7:02 am

According to the Islamic scriptures Jesus will come back as a Muslim and destroy Christianity. Do you actually believe that he would destroy his own religion? You have been conned.

admin

October 28, 2010 at 7:02 am

The taking of sex slaves is not modern. Do you support rape? Are you afraid to criticize Islam?

AmericanMe

October 28, 2010 at 3:50 pm

I absoloutely know what i am practicing and the trinity makes perfect sense. The trinity IS one God. Where in the Bible does Jesus foretell of the coming of a maniacal hate filled murderer that we are supposed to stupidly believe is a comforter? My family have been Protestant Christians since before the reformation and I have generations of Bishops and ministers in my family tree. I realize that the word of allah is meaningful to you but it is meaningless to me. I believe in the God of love not a hate filled unknowable scourge who rules thru fear and hatred.

As for Hinduism, Buddhism etc. Jesus said “no one gets to the father but by me” Having said that at least those religions are not trying to overthrow my govt and enforce draconian sharia law and enslave all women and anyone who does not bow down to their God(s.)

A muslim checker at my local chain grocery store threatened to kill me and my entire family because he took exception to the fact I wear a cross. No conversation nothing just “I kill you…I kill your family too” Bear in mind he was standing there with a rag wrappped around his head. You demand everything imaginable to accommodate your religious needs but I wear a cross in my own country a country my forefathers fought in the reveloutionary war for freedom of religion and you feel 100% justified to threaten to MURDER ME AND MY ENTIRE FAMILY!!!You really are just the vilest people.
I currently know far more about islam than I want to. I have a daughter who is happy, vibrant productive member of society. Under your misogynistic rules she would be a body bag wearing slave to some man and a prisoner in her own home praying daily she didn’t do anything to upset him so he wouldn’t beat the shit out of her or that some inbred asshole didn’t rape her and she would be stoned to death! Stoning! My God in heaven how savage and barbaric.

Jesus died for me and I serve only him.

New Crusader

October 28, 2010 at 11:14 am

Servant of Allah (npbuh); I have been reading your exchange with Christopher. He seems to definitely have a better understanding of the (H) Qur’an that you do – as well as other materials. I just want to interject some more current information for you to refute. Perhaps this will help you understand the current application of the (H) Qur’an

Here is a couple of examples of Jizya in effect today.

http://www.compassdirect.org/english/country/pakistan/26168/
We know how to throw out Christians, we will not allow even a single Christian to live here. We will hang them all in the streets, so that no Christian would ever dare to enter the Hazara land.”
The Hazara community financially supports area Islamic extremist groups and is known for charging up to 400 percent interest to Christians.
This is all it took to kill an attorney, his wife and their 5 children.http://www.compassdirect.org/english/country/pakistan/27443/
“Targeting him as a Christian on the premise that he would not have the social status to fight back legally, the men ordered him to have sex with the woman at his residence in village 489-EB”
On refusal, the men beat this 80 year old man AND his wife. Is this the protection islam “gives”. Read the rest of the article to see just how swift muslim justice is about these crimes.
In these two articles alone, almost everything that you say is not true about islam is displayed. Do you really think your statement is true? “I really believe that you are almost trying to make yourself believe that Islam is this vicious dictating religion..?when actually it’s not!” Perhaps we have to look no further than the behavior of Qurinimals across this nation and the world today to understand the hypocrisy of your claims.

Point out where I said Islam is a country. I said she turned her back on her country because Islam is slowly devouring the UK, and she has joined the religion/ideology of the enemy. Non-Muslims not standing up for Western Civilization, is what is sad.

As far as your wisecrack towards me, let me know when you want to debate the Islamic scriptures.

yes, screams are as much as pain!!! There is a wisdom says: the caravan moves on in the desert do not care about barking dogs…keep barking forever the sun will remain shining in the middle of the sky….

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