Comments on "Ceteris paribus" by Balint SomkutiTypePad2016-08-02T20:41:01Zturcopolierhttps://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2016/08/ceteris-paribus-by-balint-somkuti/comments/atom.xml/Balint Somkuti commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01bb09277b60970d2016-08-06T19:04:11Z2016-08-06T19:04:11ZBalint SomkutiNo, Sir u r not a culture. But what u represent is one. And it is to be disappear soon....<p>No, Sir u r not a culture. But what u represent is one. And it is to be disappear soon.</p>
<p>Thank God.</p>jld commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01bb0926f662970d2016-08-05T05:55:30Z2016-08-05T05:55:30Zjld:-D I am not a "culture" and given my age I do expect to disappear quite soon.<p>:-D<br />
I am not a &quot;culture&quot; and given my age I do expect to disappear quite soon.<br />
</p>michael brenner commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01b8d20d4b70970c2016-08-05T03:11:53Z2016-08-05T03:11:53Zmichael brennerYour professor picked the wrong date. Rome's population by 450 already had been more than halved and most of the...<p>Your professor picked the wrong date. Rome&#39;s population by 450 already had been more than halved and most of the Western Empire overrun by destruction barbarians. He should have used 350 or 375.</p>michael brenner commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01bb0926ef62970d2016-08-05T03:09:21Z2016-08-05T03:09:21Zmichael brenner"one special interest group or another since at least the 1960s." I presume you are referring to Wall Street, the...<p>&quot;one special interest group or another since at least the 1960s.&quot;</p>
<p>I presume you are referring to Wall Street, the Industrial-Military Complex, the Intelligence Empire, and the Silicon valley scammers.</p>LeaNder commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01b8d20d0f48970c2016-08-04T15:30:25Z2016-08-04T15:30:25ZLeaNderI love irony and humor, maybe not as much if it is linked to a victim narrative by the speaker?...<p>I love irony and humor, maybe not as much if it is linked to a victim narrative by the speaker? </p>
<p>In other words I sense: a modification of the PC-terrorism-narrative and its unfortunate and suffering victims. In this case the speaker. Laguerre_a-PC-tolerance-terrorist? BS: &quot;I disagree. If I may. If not please crucify me in the name of tolerance.&quot; </p>
<p>Beyond: Which ever way you like it or simply: As you like it. </p>Balint Somkuti commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01b7c88359e0970b2016-08-04T14:17:38Z2016-08-04T14:17:38ZBalint SomkutiIT is assaulting to call someone beliefs 'shit'. Humbleness is the mark of great cultures. Those who forget about it...<p>IT is assaulting to call someone beliefs &#39;shit&#39;.</p>
<p>Humbleness is the mark of great cultures. Those who forget about it are quick to disappear.</p>Fred commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01bb0926a713970d2016-08-04T13:41:39Z2016-08-04T13:41:39ZFredBalint, "...the present ilk who despise and lecture you un the name of tolerance." That is happening on this side...<p>Balint,</p>
<p>&quot;...the present ilk who despise and lecture you un the name of tolerance.&quot;</p>
<p>That is happening on this side of the Atlantic also.</p>Fred commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01b7c883564d970b2016-08-04T13:39:32Z2016-08-04T13:39:32ZFredMichael, "Jaime Dimon, Mark Zuckerberg, Donald Trump, Justin Beiber, the Kochs, the chiefs of Volksvagen?" All the above. I also...<p>Michael,</p>
<p>&quot;Jaime Dimon, Mark Zuckerberg, Donald Trump, Justin Beiber, the Kochs, the chiefs of Volksvagen?&quot; All the above. I also include most of our consultants and lobbyists too. </p>
<p>&quot;Fulton, Edison, Fleming, plus Lincoln, Roosevelt, and the European statesmen who build the unique and unprecedented well-being we have enjoyed for 70 years?&quot;</p>
<p>Fulton, etc did not labor under the current regulatory climate. The &quot;unique and unprecedented well-being&quot; requires an understanding of the work to create and maintain that civilization. We have been eroding that for one special interest group or another since at least the 1960s. </p>
<p>Richard Sale referenced Ortega&#39;s book &quot;The Revolt of the Masses &quot; on the Athenaeum not long ago. I believe what Ortega was writing about then is very applicable today. The&quot;vertical rise of the barbarians&quot;, which is I believe how he phrased it, is having an erosive impact on our society. These would be both the citizens and non-citizen residents who demand the benefits of our civilization and its high standard of living but do not understand (nor are willing to support) the underlying mechanics of how it came into being nor how it must be maintained. As Heinlein put it this is &quot;bad luck&quot;. </p>jld commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01bb09269b13970d2016-08-04T10:52:37Z2016-08-04T10:52:37ZjldAre you sure all of your senses work 100%? Definitely not! Nobody has, had or ever will ever have "perfect...<p><i><blockquote>Are you sure all of your senses work 100%?</blockquote></i></p>
<p>Definitely not!<br />
Nobody has, had or ever will ever have &quot;perfect information&quot;.<br />
So I am returning you the question:<br />
<i>Are you sure all of YOUR senses work 100%?</i><br />
Because you seem to think that it is &quot;good practice&quot; to try to <i>fill the gaps</i> with whimsical fantasies WHICH CANNOT BE CHECKED in any way, whatsoever.</p>
<p><i><blockquote>Reality is only a perception.</blockquote></i></p>
<p>Not quite, this the very, very old BS harking back to Zhuang Zhou who pretended that he could not make any difference between dreaming and awakening:<br />
<a href="http://www.the-philosopher.co.uk/butter.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.the-philosopher.co.uk/butter.htm</a><br />
You don&#39;t just &quot;perceive&quot; reality at any given instant you also check and compare the present with remembrances of similar situations.<br />
Granted, that&#39;s not an entirely fool proof guarantee either.</p>
<p><i><blockquote>Truth is what most people accept as truth.</blockquote></i></p>
<p>So you are a post-modernist?<br />
There is no truth and that you can claim anything you like by properly &quot;deconstructing&quot; other people words?<br />
Indeed, there is no such thing as absolute truth but there certainly is absolute balderdash, if you act according to wrong beliefs you eventually lose and &quot;reality&quot; will rub your nose in this fact even if you cannot figure how and why you ended up there.</p>
<p><i><blockquote>But can you tell me what is outside?</blockquote></i></p>
<p>No, but you cannot either and I won&#39;t take sh*t from anyone.</p>
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</p>michael brenner commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01b8d20ccef9970c2016-08-03T21:54:25Z2016-08-03T21:54:25Zmichael brennerWho figures in your pantheon of a tiny elite: Jaime Dimon, Mark Zuckerberg, Donald Trump, Justin Beiber, the Kochs, the...<p>Who figures in your pantheon of a tiny elite: Jaime Dimon, Mark Zuckerberg, Donald Trump, Justin Beiber, the Kochs, the chiefs of Volksvagen?</p>
<p>Or, did you have in mind Fulton, Edison, Fleming, plus Lincoln, Roosevelt, and the European statesmen who build the unique and unprecedented well-being we have enjoyed for 70 years?</p>
<p>If the former - and their ilk - all disappeared from the face of the earth tomorrow, we&#39;d be considerably better off. if the latter had never existed, we&#39;d truly and literally still be in the Dark Ages. So please clarify your selection?<br />
</p>Dubhaltach commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01b8d20cb7bb970c2016-08-03T18:02:00Z2016-08-03T19:31:56ZDubhaltachIn reply to LeaNder 03 August 2016 at 01:07 PM Can we take it that appreciating irony from others is...<p>In reply to LeaNder 03 August 2016 at 01:07 PM </p>
<p>Can we take it that appreciating irony from others is not your strong point?</p>
<p>As you wade through the search results that google presents I urge you strongly to ignore any page that claims &quot;irony&quot; means &quot;tasting somewhat of iron&quot;.</p>rjj commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01b7c8830802970b2016-08-03T18:00:32Z2016-08-03T19:31:56ZrjjMost of them treat us like we were some kind of barbaric natives who just came down from the tree....<p>Most of them treat us like we were some kind of barbaric natives who just came down from the tree. ....</p>
<p>when that happens, wind them up: just pretend you think they are from Poland and persist in this error. (it changes focus and balance) </p>Balint Somkuti commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01bb092659ea970d2016-08-03T17:43:33Z2016-08-03T19:31:56ZBalint SomkutiCrucifying was a common execution method in Rome. I meant to be ironic not disrepectful.<p>Crucifying was a common execution method in Rome. I meant to be ironic not disrepectful.</p>Babak Makkinejad commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01b8d20cb38d970c2016-08-03T17:22:32Z2016-08-03T17:22:32ZBabak MakkinejadI am not sure this would be any consolation to you as a European but they behaved the same way...<p>I am not sure this would be any consolation to you as a European but they behaved the same way towards Iran and Iranians.</p>
<p>However, after a while, their belief in their own moral superiority became amusing; like clueless children in damp dark forest - with the right path appearing not anywhere.</p>PeterHug commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01bb092657ac970d2016-08-03T17:21:30Z2016-08-03T17:21:30ZPeterHugI expect he was speaking metaphorically. :)<p>I expect he was speaking metaphorically.<br />
:)</p>PeterHug commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01bb09265776970d2016-08-03T17:18:29Z2016-08-03T17:18:29ZPeterHugOne explanation of the British political establishment's actions since that vote is that they intend to make the Brexit process...<p>One explanation of the British political establishment&#39;s actions since that vote is that they intend to make the Brexit process and consequences as painful as possible, with an eye towards re-entering the EU at some point in ten years or so.</p>
<p>I&#39;m not currently in the UK, so I&#39;m on the outside looking in, but that&#39;s just a thought I had...they&#39;re certainly capable of it.</p>PeterHug commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01bb09265727970d2016-08-03T17:14:58Z2016-08-03T17:14:58ZPeterHugYou're already seeing that - I've worked with some fairly large (and publicly traded) companies where a few families control...<p>You&#39;re already seeing that - I&#39;ve worked with some fairly large (and publicly traded) companies where a few families control significant fractions of the top jobs.</p>
<p>I&#39;m also seeing (i) much reduced mobility in general, and (ii) a strong tendency for families to specialize in particular fields (e.g., all the kids are engineers, mostly because one of their parents is one).</p>
<p>I don&#39;t really know if this is an increasing trend, or I&#39;m just beginning to wake up to the way the world truly is.</p>LeaNder commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01bb09265652970d2016-08-03T17:07:56Z2016-08-03T17:07:56ZLeaNderMy dear, it's getting quite funny around here: "If not please crucify me in the name of tolerance." Hmmm? crucify?<p>My dear, it&#39;s getting quite funny around here:</p>
<p>&quot;If not please crucify me in the name of tolerance.&quot;</p>
<p>Hmmm? crucify?</p>Babak Makkinejad commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01b7c88302c2970b2016-08-03T17:07:04Z2016-08-03T17:07:04ZBabak MakkinejadThe Antique High Culture died because it lost its vitality; it was abandoned in favor of Christianity.<p>The Antique High Culture died because it lost its vitality; it was abandoned in favor of Christianity.</p>Balint Somkuti commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01bb09265495970d2016-08-03T16:50:20Z2016-08-03T16:50:20ZBalint SomkutiThank you for the excellent quotes.<p>Thank you for the excellent quotes.</p>Balint Somkuti commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01b8d20caff2970c2016-08-03T16:48:59Z2016-08-03T16:48:59ZBalint SomkutiThank for raising my attention.<p>Thank for raising my attention.</p>Balint Somkuti commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01b7c8830083970b2016-08-03T16:47:56Z2016-08-03T16:47:56ZBalint SomkutiWell those suffering the feudal anarchy the incessant fighting (you know Treuga Dei) the collapse of the antique high culture...<p>Well those suffering the feudal anarchy the incessant fighting (you know Treuga Dei) the collapse of the antique high culture and alike would beg to differ.</p>Balint Somkuti commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01bb092653f4970d2016-08-03T16:45:01Z2016-08-03T16:45:01ZBalint SomkutiAre you sure all of your senses work 100%? Reality is only a perception. Do you know what is the...<p>Are you sure all of your senses work 100%? Reality is only a perception.</p>
<p> Do you know what is the generic definition of truth? Truth is what most people accept as truth.</p>
<p>We are limited to the 4 dimensions we know. But can you tell me what is outside?</p>Balint Somkuti commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01bb09264e9b970d2016-08-03T15:45:05Z2016-08-03T15:45:05ZBalint SomkutiYou trumped me on that. Philosophy is not mx strength.<p>You trumped me on that. Philosophy is not mx strength.</p>Balint Somkuti commented on '"Ceteris paribus" by Balint Somkuti'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c72e153ef01b7c882faa1970b2016-08-03T15:42:27Z2016-08-03T15:42:27ZBalint SomkutiI disagree. If I may. If not please crucify me in the name of tolerance.<p>I disagree. If I may. If not please crucify me in the name of tolerance.</p>