Led P1, which felt a bit scary to me: little decent gear between fixed stuff and I'm too much of a wimp to just use those! Took ages so James led the rest...but took ages due to the alpine club's ambiguous guidebook description. Went off route for a pitch, I think. Some toys fell out of the pram and we couldn't find the abseil point at the back. Abbed instead down the route from a ledge on the right, below the summit, in two drops. 60s just reached the ground.katherinesydney - AltLd O/S - 31/Aug/13 with leeds james

The most polished route in existance? It is probably VS4c bumped up to HVS for the polish. Abbed down the route in a thunder and lightening rainstorm. Ropes jammed on the second Abseil and required a frantic pull to free them with thunder and lightening booming all around. Walked back to the car (at the refuge) in my rockboots. My old Sprayway waterproof is no longer waterproof.AndyP - AltLd O/S - 12/Jul/06 with Jamie

First pitch is polished with doubtful gear. Due to the polish quite hard. Hit by a thunderstorm and ha d an epic decent and run back to the car. Soaked to the skin in seconds. Valdres Fjellguider - AltLd O/S - 12/Jul/06 with Andy porter