I took all the required measurements and the sizing chart indicated a large short. They were too short, exchanged them for large regular. My first long ride was cold, the pants performed well, kept me comfortable. When it warmed up, taking out the two liners I was still comfortable. On the downside riding thru a bad rain left me with a damp (not wet) butt. They fit well but the knee armor sits too low when standing. Seated they're OK tho the left pressed too hard on the knee. Pulling on the pants leg helped. They're not perfect but I'm glad I have them.