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Pretty sure Olaf is counter to Garen, you have true damage to ignore his armor, and you have ranged to poke him plus Ragnarok's armor pent.

It seems like that in theory, but Garen's slow-removal and Undertow's significant mana-cost makes the thing a bit different in practice. Garen's E and W are superior for early extended trades compared to what Olaf has, and Garen's ultimate can counter the best use of Olaf's ultimate in coordination with his passive - being low on health.

That being said, Olaf's sustained damage use and affinity for durability lets him counter Garen later in the game. But the lane will be... difficult.

It seems like that in theory, but Garen's slow-removal and Undertow's significant mana-cost makes the thing a bit different in practice. Garen's E and W are superior for early extended trades compared to what Olaf has, and Garen's ultimate can counter the best use of Olaf's ultimate in coordination with his passive - being low on health.

That being said, Olaf's sustained damage use and affinity for durability lets him counter Garen later in the game. But the lane will be... difficult.

Yeh, what he was saying was what I was thinking. I knew/know that garen has a good early game, I just theorized that my E would do more damage and I could out trade him. I was wrong haha. Next time I'll pick a manaless AP or a ranged champ like jayce or nid.