Posted: Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:54 Post subject:
Is there a relationship between puppy and ecology?Subject description: this conversation started at the "other distros" topic

Now I answer Aitch:
good discussion videos!
But what if we try to say something about our own experiences related to the good materials we see on videos or the internet?
Here I wrote some comments about experiences that happened to me and other people related to what's said in the videos you selected (though I didn't have time to see all the materials yet).
I had to transport this forum's conversation to this other place, since we're changing the topic and stopping to speak about “other distros”. I liked the materials, but due to they're made in English language I can't share them with my partners (we speak Spanish here). I'll send them anyway to see if someone wants to subtitle some of them.

http://www.naturalhub.com/opinion_right_food_for_the_human_animal.htm
You can't imagine the many times that we the producers of ecological food, had to discuss about what's good to eat and what's not. The answer is: we still don't know, and in my opinion, we probably won't ever know exactly.
And I think we are re-discovering (we are ignorants compared to what ancient cultures knew) that a food that's healthy for an Italian, can be poison to a Chinese, and vice-versa.
But we probably know what makes damage. Entire rivers cracked by too big dams, strong abusing of insecticides, uncontrolled OGM seed producing, mega-mining corps substituting farms with huge holes, and other “modern and progress” today's practice, are for sure not going to improve the quality of our food.

http://www.natural-health-information-centre.com/codex-alimentarius.html
Not only codex-alimentarius but also strong corporations that control food over the world, try to decide for us what to eat. Kokopelli is precisely one of the many groups that search for alternatives, in the same way that Linux searches for alternatives to Windows.
Yesterday I went to a protest where there were only 10 young bodies clapping their hands against Monsanto's corporation, in the corner of a street. This sort of protest won't change the world from one day to the other, but this activity gave me the opportunity to meet people who are essaying new ways to buy good food and other implements.

The videos:

http://www.bbc5.tv/
didn't see it yet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pin8fbdGV9Y&feature=autoplay&list=PLFA50FBC214A6CE87&lf=plpp_video&playnext=21
so good!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvp3RWc4Dlo&feature=related
I only saw the beginning. Interesting view of Dr. R. Sepolsky when describing genetic's pretensions on society.
Even that kind of apparently unreachable knowledge can be in our hands, I mean, the hands of common people.
For example, there's a farm in my country that also received a donation to develop their own laboratory to improve the natural seeds they produce. They used the money to pay a technical laboratorian to do this.
If they get too far inside their experimenting and go attacking nature with their knowledge (for example associating their group with Monsanto), the rest of the ecological groups will quickly notify this to the donation's provider to stop benefiting them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=4aF2J6ZJsdw
I would have liked to see this video about the time when Carl Sagan's books were being distributed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whKrENfkMEM
Saw it till the middle. The Mayans were amazing people, but many others also spoke about how stars determine us, even Europeans! I think we have to be careful managing that information, and being the exact as we can, since many other people died in a bonfire made by the medieval's Inquisition and other controller groups, because of speaking at the wrong moment, or the wrong place.

http://www.cmn.tv/news/new-world-currency/
Money is a big scandal, and one of the most difficult subjects to manage for people.
I strongly recommend to analize some PPD experiences of using a lend money without creating conflicts between people. Yes, I'm certainly waiting for more people to speak about this.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/inlight_radio/2012/06/14/the-light-agenda
didn't see it yet

hope this communication is useful for the people of this forum, anyone want to continue it? So it will be easier for me to find time to continue watching the videos.

Enrique - you mentioned on another post that it is difficult to buy a lightweight "brand new" PC these days - and therefore the new PCs are wasting power and resources. I have a workshop that has no mains power (only solar panels/batteries) and I use an Acer netbook because the power demands are low.

I think there are more and more low-power computing devices becoming available now. Things like Android tablets, Ipads, Raspberry Pi and some other very low power computing devices (some of them quite cheap!!)

I have found Puppy to be a great way to get my computing done quickly on low-powered devices. Great for ecology!

I am looking forward to see what the next 10 years brings us in the area of home computing. I hope that Puppy continues to be at the forefront of lightweight computing.

I would be interested in your comments about the Puppy/Raspberry Pi project. It is only in it's infancy, but the Pi looks like a device that has potential to be useful to ecologically minded communities that can make do without massive processing power. I am planning on using a Pi to run a solar powered NAS file server at home.

Pup Pi or Puppi is at an early stage.
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppiNews
Feeding it directly for its 5v power supply = good plan. Solar power, battery, clockwork etc.
Unless Ethernet is required, the model A Raspberry (not yet available) will be even cheaper. . .

Puppy can be used to revitalise old computers but the real green machines are for the future and hopefully will have a higher biodegradeable carbon base.

Radical changes are required for next generation mobile operating systems.
In two years phones are likely to have excellent voice activation whether Siri or Android equivalents
http://youtu.be/HWXQKb9ceds

Green should be hi tech, clean and cheap and that really is a social and political drive.
The Ipad is brilliant but toxic - pressure is being placed on Apple. There interests are to provide what users demand.

Because Puppy does not require hard disks to boot from, much like the Raspberry Pii, it is better suited to work across a range of devices.
The woof build system allows a degree of customisation and that is beginning to support lower power devices.

The younger generation is greener and more will be raspberry by the end of the year _________________YinYana AI Buddhism

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