the problem with this rationale is, as you know, and as sigal has
admitted, sometimes no rash presents. this is why it is better to be
cautious, as opposed to waiting for some definite 'sign' of lyme
disease...the first 'sign' that you have a tick borne spirochetal
infection might be only in late stages when the disease is difficult to
treat. and then, you might be screwed and your life is ruined. 2 weeks
of doxy won't hurt anyone, and it costs almost nothing.
the 3rd Man wrote:

the problem with this rationale is, as you know, and as sigal has
admitted, sometimes no rash presents. this is why it is better to be
cautious, as opposed to waiting for some definite 'sign' of lyme
disease...the first 'sign' that you have a tick borne spirochetal
infection might be only in late stages when the disease is difficult to
treat. and then, you might be screwed and your life is ruined. 2 weeks
of doxy won't hurt anyone, and it costs almost nothing.

READ the fucking thing.

The discussion immediately preceeding concerned ANY tickbite...NOT just
an I. scapularis...and you can clearly see that I recommended 21 days
of doxy in the case of a known deertick bite...

the problem with this rationale is, as you know, and as sigal has
admitted, sometimes no rash presents. this is why it is better to be
cautious, as opposed to waiting for some definite 'sign' of lyme
disease...the first 'sign' that you have a tick borne spirochetal
infection might be only in late stages when the disease is difficult to
treat. and then, you might be screwed and your life is ruined. 2 weeks
of doxy won't hurt anyone, and it costs almost nothing.

Look at my response here...#2...YOU STUPID DOUCHEBAG...

"If it were me...and I supected that it might have been a
deertick...and
if you are in an area where there is a known risk...I would go to my
doctor and ask for the 21 day cycle of doxycycline".

uh, my comments related to any tick bite, not just ixodes. for
instance, little is known about lonestari in people...and that's
carried not by the ixodes tick, but by the lonestar tick...and who
knows about other borrelia, they are being discovered all the time.
....read my own writing, dumbass...I said "tick borne spirochetal
infection"...
the 3rd Man wrote:

Quote:

trong wrote:
the problem with this rationale is, as you know, and as sigal has
admitted, sometimes no rash presents. this is why it is better to be
cautious, as opposed to waiting for some definite 'sign' of lyme
disease...the first 'sign' that you have a tick borne spirochetal
infection might be only in late stages when the disease is difficult to
treat. and then, you might be screwed and your life is ruined. 2 weeks
of doxy won't hurt anyone, and it costs almost nothing.

READ the fucking thing.

The discussion immediately preceeding concerned ANY tickbite...NOT just
an I. scapularis...and you can clearly see that I recommended 21 days
of doxy in the case of a known deertick bite...

uh, my comments related to any tick bite, not just ixodes. for
instance, little is known about lonestari in people...and that's
carried not by the ixodes tick, but by the lonestar tick...and who
knows about other borrelia, they are being discovered all the time.
...read my own writing, dumbass...I said "tick borne spirochetal
infection"...

So...you are saying that 21 days of Doxy should be given...regardless
of the type of tick or the prevalence of disease?

Upon finding ANY attached tick...or evidence of having been bitten by
ANY type of tick...regardless of WHERE in the country you were bitten?

That's idiotic.

But not terribly surprising coming from you.

Yeah...I saw what you said..."tickborne spirochetal infection".

Tell me, genius, what types of ticks are now KNOWN to transmit
"spirochetal infections"?

Well, I see your point...I just don't know if I would agree, entirely,
there...and I suspect that doctors would find you a
bit...uhh..."anxious" if you consulted about every tickbite.
_____________
Unless you are an outdoorsey person, you arent that likely to be bitten
all the time. I am almost 40 and have only had 2 tick bites in my life.

Well, yes, but, see...if you go by the numbers...the chances of you
contracting Lyme disease from either of two tickbites...even in the
most endemic areas are not all that good...so going to the doctor every
time you find an attached tick...you see my point?

(Guess you are just incredibly lucky...in a not-so-good way).

Really...as I understand it...yes, as you said...if you are
"outdoorsey" (I am, or was)...and are engaged in higher risk
activities...say, doing your own yardwork, as I used to like to do...or
golf off the fairway...constantly searching in the rough for the
ball...or spend a lot of time in the garden on your hands and
knees...walk your dog in the forest...

....so you couple that with engaging in those activities in an endemic
area...

...now...maybe you should think more about the tickbite.

But it really does depend on where you are, to some extent.

Yes, you can probably get it just about anywhere...but if you are from
Connecticut and you just return from Hawaii...I sort of doubt that you
probably contracted the disease in Hawaii.

in some parts of the northeast, up to 50% of deer ticks carry Bb. as
has been noted by others, improper removal of a tick can squeeze the
abdominal contents into the body. also, it is known with relapsing
fever that one single spirochete is enough to establish infection.

therefore, if you find a deer tick on you in the northeast, why take
chances? sure, the odds may be in your favor, but people ARE unlucky.
the 3rd Man wrote:

Quote:

Kara wrote:

Well, I see your point...I just don't know if I would agree, entirely,
there...and I suspect that doctors would find you a
bit...uhh..."anxious" if you consulted about every tickbite.
_____________
Unless you are an outdoorsey person, you arent that likely to be bitten
all the time. I am almost 40 and have only had 2 tick bites in my life.

Well, yes, but, see...if you go by the numbers...the chances of you
contracting Lyme disease from either of two tickbites...even in the
most endemic areas are not all that good...so going to the doctor every
time you find an attached tick...you see my point?

(Guess you are just incredibly lucky...in a not-so-good way).

Really...as I understand it...yes, as you said...if you are
"outdoorsey" (I am, or was)...and are engaged in higher risk
activities...say, doing your own yardwork, as I used to like to do...or
golf off the fairway...constantly searching in the rough for the
ball...or spend a lot of time in the garden on your hands and
knees...walk your dog in the forest...

...so you couple that with engaging in those activities in an endemic
area...

..now...maybe you should think more about the tickbite.

But it really does depend on where you are, to some extent.

Yes, you can probably get it just about anywhere...but if you are from
Connecticut and you just return from Hawaii...I sort of doubt that you
probably contracted the disease in Hawaii.

"Well, yes, but, see...if you go by the numbers...the chances of you
contracting Lyme disease from either of two tickbites...even in the
most endemic areas are not all that good...so going to the doctor every

time you find an attached tick...you see my point? "

the 3rd Man wrote:

Quote:

trong wrote:

in some parts of the northeast, up to 50% of deer ticks carry Bb. as
has been noted by others, improper removal of a tick can squeeze the
abdominal contents into the body.

Yeah, that was me, dumbass.

also, it is known with relapsing
fever that one single spirochete is enough to establish infection.

So?

therefore, if you find a deer tick on you in the northeast, why take
chances? sure, the odds may be in your favor, but people ARE unlucky.

YES. A DEERTICK. Isn't that what I said? Din't I say that if you had a
bite from a DEERTICK in an endemic area to get the DOXY?