I think that Bush definitely used it to his advantage, but I truly disbelieve that it was intentionally done. The sheer amount of people that would have had to be involved would be staggering. It would have come out by now.

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People did it, it was planned, and presumably the amount of Al Qaeda involved in it were less than a dozen. Nobody has come out and talked about it, anywhere in the world.

There's absolutely no reason why 12 people in some US govt agency couldn't have pulled this off, especially if the person planning it ends up having the remaining members killed at the end.

Again, I'm not agreeing/disagreeing with whatever happened, but I am disagreeing with that reasoning. If it was an actual Al Qaeda terrorist plot, that really proves that a handful of people could do it without anyone talking about it later; which destroys the point of if it was a plot then lots of people would be involved and someone would've talked.

I think that Bush definitely used it to his advantage, but I truly disbelieve that it was intentionally done. The sheer amount of people that would have had to be involved would be staggering. It would have come out by now.

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People did it, it was planned, and presumably the amount of Al Qaeda involved in it were less than a dozen. Nobody has come out and talked about it, anywhere in the world.

There's absolutely no reason why 12 people in some US govt agency couldn't have pulled this off, especially if the person planning it ends up having the remaining members killed at the end.

Again, I'm not agreeing/disagreeing with whatever happened, but I am disagreeing with that reasoning. If it was an actual Al Qaeda terrorist plot, that really proves that a handful of people could do it without anyone talking about it later; which destroys the point of if it was a plot then lots of people would be involved and someone would've talked.

No, I mean Jesse claims the towers were brought down internally. As well as the planes being shot down, etc. It's Occam's razor. Al Qaeda did it. This wasn't some vast government conspiracy.

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Neon Maniac wrote:I see what you're saying. I don't know what his take on it is, I didn't really look at that part.

I didn't get to that part yet, but I've heard him talk about it in interviews. He claims that people brought in explosives to the towers before the planes hit and set it all up. He also claims that no phone calls were made from the PA. plane because it was impossible and all kinds of other things.

Now, did Bush (or, rather, Cheney) do some shady shit the moment it happened to use it to his advantage? It wouldn't surprise me. I think the actual attack was Al Queda, but there is a lot of shady stuff afterwards.

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Alien Redrum wrote:Nice. Those are generally pretty good anyway.

yeah they are good for discovering new authors.Iv found Tim lebbon and Mark Samuels favs so far out of the authors that are new to me.

Definitely. Even though I bought a few of them on the clearance racks at Barnes and Noble, they are nicely edited books with some great thought on who gets in them.

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Seed. Saw this on a few top tens of 2011 and picked it up when it was free on Amazon. Really digging it so far.

Devil's Hand. I'm reading this one for review. I'm liking it so far, and I'm curious where it's going to take me. It has this structure where it's telling a few different stories at once, but it's obvious that they are all tied together somehow.

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I was at a comic con this past weekend with my son and over heard some teens talking about "Emotobooks" I asked them about it and they said it's some sort of new medium of fiction for this era. This peeked my interest so I did some research and found their main website on Google. Saw they had a Horror title called "Surburbians" so I picked it up. I enjoy new things and wanted to see what it was all about. Honestly, I was impressed over all. Writing was good, the abstract art was beautiful. Gonna keep an eye on their site and see whats up.

Dengar wrote:I was at a comic con this past weekend with my son and over heard some teens talking about "Emotobooks" I asked them about it and they said it's some sort of new medium of fiction for this era. This peeked my interest so I did some research and found their main website on Google. Saw they had a Horror title called "Surburbians" so I picked it up. I enjoy new things and wanted to see what it was all about. Honestly, I was impressed over all. Writing was good, the abstract art was beautiful. Gonna keep an eye on their site and see whats up.

Hi, welcome to the forum. What comic con were you at? I'm surprised that you never heard of an emotobook before. Not because they're famous, or you should've heard of them or anything, but judging that your IP address comes out of PA very near to Grit City Publication's IP address, which apparently is who publishes emotobooks.

Maybe you really did hear about them at a comic con and had never heard of them before, I don't know. But, say you were a shill for Grit City (or someone else) you'll get a lot more mileage if you came on here, said who you were, what your product was and what was awesome about it. Trust me, we'd probably ask questions. Someone would probably ask for a couple to review, and our reviews get read a lot. You'd probably end up selling more.