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Saturday, 12 February 2011

OUA Tonight

Windsor leads Laurier by 30 late in the game. The Lancers make a statement that decides the top 2 teams in the OUA East. Laurier is in a late-season slump as Windsor clinches a first-round playoff bye.

Carleton 100, Ryerson 62 The Ravens put on another offensive and defensive clinic, taking a 22 point halftime lead and building leads as large as 40 to route the Rams. 6'6" Tyson Hinz had 14 of his team-high 18 points in the first half as the Ravens once again used their newest defensive wrinkle, half court trapping to disrupt the Rams and create turnovers. The Ravens remain undefeated and Ryerson is likely to finish 4th after Ottawa's defeat of the U of T Varsity Blues across town tonight.

Ottawa 94, Toronto 71 6'6" Warren Ward was literally unstoppable with 41 points on 16 for 18 shooting and a perfect 5 for 5 from three point land, adding 10 rebounds as the Gee-Gees clinched third place in the East with a solid win over a listless Varsity Blues group. Ward had 21 first-half points as the Gee-Gees used a 15-0 run late in the first quarter to build leads as large as 20 points. The Blues had one run in them midway through the third as 6'0" Justin Holmes had 10 points in a 15-0 Toronto run that got the game back to within 6 at 58-52. But Ward imposed his will again, scoring 10 points in a 12-0 run that included a pair of threes and a resounding dunk that quickly got the lead back to 20. Ward had 16 points in the fourth quarter in one of the strongest individual performances of the OUA/CIS season.

York 122, RMC 44

Lakehead leads Brock 55-36 late in the third quarter; Badgers Joel Whitty was released from hospital after being injured last night and appears to be ok but is not in tonight's lineup for Brock.

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Certain Toronto supporters might dismiss tonight's lopsided win by the Gee Gees as meaningless because they had already clinched second place and Ottawa needed a win to secure third place.That may be true but losing by 23 at home to a team they probably will host in a playoff game in a couple of weeks is not a good thing for Toronto.When they met in Ottawa Jan 7 Toronto won and were 7-2 and miles ahead of Ottawa who at the time were a dismal 2-7.Over the last 11 games, though, Ottawa and Toronto had identical 7-4 records and tonight, at a crucial juncture in the season, the Gee Gees made a statement that they now are the better team.Not only did Ottawa win, they emphatically hammered Toronto and that has to have Katz worried.

Anon 11:17...If you look at the box scores from RMC games, you'll see the opposing coaches usually use their entire bench, with the starters getting a fraction of their normal PT...I think the relevant question is what in hell is RMC doing in the OUA in the first place?It is so obvious RMC has absolutely no business competing in CIS basketball, men or women.Even against second and third string, RMC is hopelessly outclassed.It shouldn't be on the opposing coaches to contrive ways of keeping the score down or make RMC seem more competitive.It is not Dave Smart or Mike Katz or Shawn Swords or any other coach's job to make RMC look good, OK?It is not their fault RMC can't compete.It's time the RMC athletic dept. takes a long hard look at where their b-ball programs stand.When Dulude and Norman were there, the program was semi respectable but they are long gone now and the foreseeable future seems extremely bleak.The gap between RMC and the rest if the OUA is only widening and it is highly probable that RMC can go another decade without a win...is that what their AD wants?Leave the OUA, join the OCAA again and give the student athletes a reasonable chance of winning some games again.Make the move sooner than later, please, for everyone's sake.

I think if you look at the box score closely you will see that in the York game the starters played 25 minutes and the same in the Carleton game. What I am saying is that there is no reason to play the starters at all, you know your going to get the win. Its not a case of making RMC more competitive.Its about giving 2nd string players a chance to get some real minutes and bond as a team.Plus showing a little sportsmanship goes a long way, not only as a lesson for the players but as well as for the school.

Look at the box score AGAIN PLEASE from the Carleton-RMC game from Jan 28The 5 starters played the following min:Thompson 20Hobin 8Chapman 15Hinz 14P Scrubb 13

That is 14 min per starter...no starter played 25 min as you said... get your facts straight please.All 12 players played.If you want to talk about sportsmanship, understand this:If Smart wanted to he could have played his starters and rotation players 30+ minutes and full court trapped RMC all game....can you imagine what the score would have been?The point is, coaches try not to run up the score but the gap between RMC and any other CIS team is so immense lopsided scores can't be helped...believe me. no one enjoys playing RMC.RMC has gone 0-22 five of the last 6 seasons...doesn't that tell you something?Hell, doesn't that tell the RMC ADsomething?RMC cannot compete at the CIS level and thus should just leave.Play college ball, but leave this pipe dream of playing university ball behind for good.

14 minutes for a Carleton starter is worth 25 minutes for a York starter. You seem to miss the point, that being while RMC may not be worthy of CIS status(most OCCA teams would beat almost all of the OUA East except Carelton ) to run the score up by 80 is poor sportsmanship period! If the opposing teams only played the 2nd string and gave them the minutes they would still win easily. You prove nothing by winning by 80 other than a lack of class.

Most OCAA teams would beat almost all of the OUA East teams except Carleton?Wow, do you really any clue of what you are talking about?I happen to live in a city where I see a lot of OUA and OCAA ball and no question the OUA East is a better level of ball than college.Even Queen's could beat most OCAA teams except maybe Algonquin and Humber.Getting back to Carleton they scored 101 points against RMC of which 62 was scored by the so called second and third string.RMC loses their games on average by 50 points.Considering Carleton averages 90 points per game it was obvious to all WHO ACTUALLY WATCHED THE GAME Carleton was NOT trying to run it up on RMC....What do you want Carleton to do?Play four corners for 40 minutes?Shoot at their own basket in alternate possessions?Take a knee?Once again...if Dave Smart really, really. REALLY wanted to, he could have his team score 200 points against RMC...I'm not kidding.If you don't think Carleton and the other OUA teams are not scaling it back against RMC then you obviously haven't been watching.The best player on RMC couldn't make it as a 13th man on almost any CIS team.Sportsmanship is one thing, compromising the integrity of your team's performance just so an inferior team can save face is another.I repeat....it is clear RMC cannot compete legitimately at the CIS level.This has been apparent for some time.It would be in the best of the school and the OUA that they part ways.

As someone whose son plays in the OUA East I think that I have seen all teams play and beleive me, most won't beat the top ten OCAA teams. Pre-season Sheridan, Humber , Algonquin played OUA teams in scrimmages and either won the scrimmage or it was very close. Quit thinking OUA East is something great, its the worst ball in the country except for Carleton. Your still missing the point, you don't need to run the score to prove your a better team, its akin to kicking someone when they are down. Its very easy to manage a game when you are guaranteed the win.

I don't know what scrimmages you were talking about but the ones I found were pretty decisively in favour of the university teams.And I didn't even include Carleton's win over St. Lawrence but the Ravens don't count because unlike the rest of the OUA East they can play, right?And Humber has been ranked #1 or #2 in the country for most of the year,so.....

Take a look at those scores, they were closer than any of them came to Carleton,other than the Mohawk games they were competitve games. Considering your vaulted OUA East should have dominated the OCAA teams, those scores don't reflect it.How come none of the OUA teams won by 80?

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