As an aside, Keep It Positive, folks. This post is a good move towards keeping the community vibrant and I'm keeping an eye on it to make sure negativity doesn't derail it. If negativity does creep in, I'll delete the comment without... erm... comment myself. This applies to any post on the site, but I just wanted to be clear that I'm paying closer attention to this thread.

Thanks to Gina and everyone who's contributing for starting this thread.

Heya, hope it is alright that I added a page break after the explanation of what the thread is about but before the start of the clan descriptions (only Caledonia and Condemned showed) so that the preview didn't take up quite so much of the main screen before everyone's stories. :)

Just curious, how many -active- clans are taking people under 18? Seems like a lot of clans are flagging up as 'adult only' these days and we dont have anyone trying to catch the kids and get them straightened out before we end up with another set of sad GM reports. Is Serenity the only one or are they 18+ and just not listed yet?

To answer your question. Serenity does not have an age limit, but as some of the comments mentioned below, we dont really get into a lot of "mature" settings as a bunch of other clans so its not much of an issue.. I can say we know who our minors are though, and have removed any that are... "Immature" to put it nicely, if they dont shape up fast.

(( I don't see the point of tagging a clan as 18+ I know a few that are under 18 and are part of these clans. In the end you just have to take their word for it so why bother? The whole 18+ ends up attracting more young kids to them, Imo. WAIT unless that's the whole point !!! LMAO *facepalm*))

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(( I have encountered players like that too (Thank God) and players that are the complete opposite. Instead of 18+ why not say something like recruitment conditioned to your behavior or something like it? I'm running a clan btw just not a roleplay one and I know how hard it's to recruit members, still I rather go for quality over numbers. Also I used to recruit roleplayers for a roleplay clan and the age was never a question, we just roleplayed and althought the clan is dead now some of the players are still hanging around. That alone was worth the time of doing the one on one recruitment.))

Japanese porn: Schoolgirl on a bullet train being molested by Godzilla.

(( Yep, I did the same in GW2. I had a fourteen year old join my clan but acted very mature for his age. (My personal opinion inbound) I think vast majority of clan leaders put 18+, especially in this game is because M-Rated in the US is 17, one year before legally an adult for safety reasons. When it comes to Post Apoc, you will most likely have far more adult themes than you would in a more sparkily(ha.) MMO. Mainly because they want to protect themselves against any legal case where a parent of a "child" tries to seek a lawsuit against the people for crude conduct with a minor. ))

Yeah I'd have to agree with Aiid on this. Might be best to have an age +18 on your clan requirements, especially if you have a good number of members and will be roleplaying with adult themes. At least to cover yourselves legally. Wolfpack was always a very small clan who stopped recruiting for a long time, and we all knew who we were in real life and our ages, etc. That may be starting to change lately, but I don't run the clan. We'll see what happens.

The superficial maturity level has a lot to do with it but you can easily handle that aspect by a 30 day trial period before the new prospect is given full clan privileges. For me why I like Iron Sights being 21 plus is because it acts as kind of a warning to those who want to join. If you lie and fool us and join anyway you have basically been warned and you will be kicked without remorse if we suspect you are younger. Although ISMC is not a huge participant in roleplay right now in the past they have been, and usually our RP stories contained mature content as in drug use and distribution, illegal activites, extreme violence, and sexual situations. I know I would not have wanted my teenage kids in our clan and roleplaying so I think the requirement is fair and certainly not to titillate and recruit kiddies as Robert Lancaster suggested. Say what you will but a 14 year old is not mature no matter what they may project in an online game. They take storylines much too seriously and can be emotionally hurt because they lack the experience to see it is a game... I also think there are some legal issues with mature roleplay and minors if the parents of said minors want to persue it.

Fallen earth is 17+ by the rating and maybe if that was enforced some way by G1 no one would have to put rules about their clan's age limits but that is not the case. It is obvious to all that kids as young as 12 play the game unsupervised. I don't want the responsibility of someone that age in a clan I am in plain and simple.

Interesting responses from everyone. My thoughts had been kinda split regarding the question;

On one hand, we all know theres younger and younger kids hitting the game since the game went free to play and they can be annoying, but with a good mentor, just about anyone can turn into a good roleplayer... But they may not want to engage in the explicit content of some groups RP at all. I havnt run into it all that much on FERP specifically, but theres plenty of RPers out there who dont or wont post to FERP who are still trying to be considered an RPer. Many of them are "Under Age", and many RPers who start RP anywhere, start it up young. On this front, I got to thinking about Hope and Serenity, but the story archs in the two areas have been pretty violent in the past 4-6 months. Its more a thought of curiosity regarding alternitives than anything else (especially during periods when IRL is stressful due disasters/terrorism, some days I didnt want to log in and see people RPing the same thing).

On the other hand, What is an Adult Theme? If you actually go watch 12-13 year old kids RP, they honestly do about the same things we do on a fairly regular basis. Yes, right on down to the Rape RPs (I've seen kids attempting it since I was about 12). Heavy violence, Gang warfare, drug smuggling, heavy sexual themes (though the younger girls are typically a LOT more vocal than older female players when unwanted sexual attention is pointed their way), foul language, heavy alchoholic themes, thick storylines...

I ultimatly find Age isnt really a good cover for anything and if it really came down to legal issues, it'd be Icarus/G1 and the Customer at fualt for being under age and playing an ESRB 17+ game, not us.

"Mature Players Wanted" would be a nicer tag, in my opinion.

Thanks evryone for their comments though, its given me more insight to the situation. :)

Just post a description, contact and requirements here and Gina or someone will update the list, I think. It's not a complete list, more like a continuous effort to gather active clan contacts in one place.

I spoke with someone yesterday right before the downtime and he was making a new RP clan. Hopefully I can resume talking to him today and hopefully we may have another clan to add to this list. At least a new player.

Can anyone confirm that the Crimson Crafting Co is still out there? I haven't seen any of them in the RP areas nor have I seen any of them on the FERP. I am giving them 5 days before I remove them from the list, or someone else confirms that they disbanded.

Not a lot of the old clan together. I can't do much of a "party dinner" thing. Maybe just a get together (speaking of which I have pictures of an old party in the bunker bar. Poor little Mutare the only one not dancing! Outrageous!)