Well, it works in New York as the Roosevelt Island aerial tramway. London also has cable cars across the Thames in Docklands. The biggest stumbling block is probably the notorioius Oxford(shire) faction of the CPRE - they would never be prepared to sanction an elevated transport system visible from Oxfordshire's countryside. Then there would be outrage if it went alongside or was visible from Port Meadow.

Well, it works in New York as the Roosevelt Island aerial tramway. London also has cable cars across the Thames in Docklands.
The biggest stumbling block is probably the notorioius Oxford(shire) faction of the CPRE - they would never be prepared to sanction an elevated transport system visible from Oxfordshire's countryside.
Then there would be outrage if it went alongside or was visible from Port Meadow.Andrew:Oxford

Well, it works in New York as the Roosevelt Island aerial tramway. London also has cable cars across the Thames in Docklands. The biggest stumbling block is probably the notorioius Oxford(shire) faction of the CPRE - they would never be prepared to sanction an elevated transport system visible from Oxfordshire's countryside. Then there would be outrage if it went alongside or was visible from Port Meadow.

Score: 5

angelox99 says...7:14am Tue 6 May 14

Lets just bring back the horse and cart - this way we can go straight across all the fields and not use the A40! And will be green and super environmentally friendly, including free manure for the garden! Problem solved...

Lets just bring back the horse and cart - this way we can go straight across all the fields and not use the A40! And will be green and super environmentally friendly, including free manure for the garden!
Problem solved...angelox99

Lets just bring back the horse and cart - this way we can go straight across all the fields and not use the A40! And will be green and super environmentally friendly, including free manure for the garden! Problem solved...

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yabbadabbadoo256 says...9:37am Tue 6 May 14

Andrew:Oxford wrote…

Well, it works in New York as the Roosevelt Island aerial tramway. London also has cable cars across the Thames in Docklands. The biggest stumbling block is probably the notorioius Oxford(shire) faction of the CPRE - they would never be prepared to sanction an elevated transport system visible from Oxfordshire's countryside. Then there would be outrage if it went alongside or was visible from Port Meadow.

Yeah anything such as a Cable Car (which would be innovative and cool) would blight their house prices too much!

[quote][p][bold]Andrew:Oxford[/bold] wrote:
Well, it works in New York as the Roosevelt Island aerial tramway. London also has cable cars across the Thames in Docklands.
The biggest stumbling block is probably the notorioius Oxford(shire) faction of the CPRE - they would never be prepared to sanction an elevated transport system visible from Oxfordshire's countryside.
Then there would be outrage if it went alongside or was visible from Port Meadow.[/p][/quote]Yeah anything such as a Cable Car (which would be innovative and cool) would blight their house prices too much!yabbadabbadoo256

Andrew:Oxford wrote…

Well, it works in New York as the Roosevelt Island aerial tramway. London also has cable cars across the Thames in Docklands. The biggest stumbling block is probably the notorioius Oxford(shire) faction of the CPRE - they would never be prepared to sanction an elevated transport system visible from Oxfordshire's countryside. Then there would be outrage if it went alongside or was visible from Port Meadow.

Yeah anything such as a Cable Car (which would be innovative and cool) would blight their house prices too much!

Score: 2

paddy173 says...11:09am Tue 6 May 14

Mr Nimmo-Smith worries about the cos of installation and amintenance, as if roads are cheap to install and repair themselves. Brilliant idea with very little noise.

Mr Nimmo-Smith worries about the cos of installation and amintenance, as if roads are cheap to install and repair themselves.
Brilliant idea with very little noise.paddy173

Mr Nimmo-Smith worries about the cos of installation and amintenance, as if roads are cheap to install and repair themselves. Brilliant idea with very little noise.

Score: 2

King Joke says...2:53pm Tue 6 May 14

Or put a bus lane in at a fraction of the cost.

Or put a bus lane in at a fraction of the cost.King Joke

Or put a bus lane in at a fraction of the cost.

Score: -4

Andrew:Oxford says...3:59pm Tue 6 May 14

King Joke wrote…

Or put a bus lane in at a fraction of the cost.

Just like they did in Cambridge?

[quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote:
Or put a bus lane in at a fraction of the cost.[/p][/quote]Just like they did in Cambridge?Andrew:Oxford

King Joke wrote…

Or put a bus lane in at a fraction of the cost.

Just like they did in Cambridge?

Score: 3

King Joke says...4:03pm Tue 6 May 14

Hmm no. I'm sure you're aware of the merits (or otherwise!) of the Cambridge busway. You could get a bus lane on the A40 with a bit of widening. The buses would be faster than cable cars and have the advantage of being able to penetrate the urban areas of Witney and Carterton as they do now, which cable cars could not. Neither are as good as running tram-trains along the Fairford branch. My bus comment is just to illustrate how daft the cable car idea is.

Hmm no. I'm sure you're aware of the merits (or otherwise!) of the Cambridge busway. You could get a bus lane on the A40 with a bit of widening. The buses would be faster than cable cars and have the advantage of being able to penetrate the urban areas of Witney and Carterton as they do now, which cable cars could not.
Neither are as good as running tram-trains along the Fairford branch. My bus comment is just to illustrate how daft the cable car idea is.King Joke

Hmm no. I'm sure you're aware of the merits (or otherwise!) of the Cambridge busway. You could get a bus lane on the A40 with a bit of widening. The buses would be faster than cable cars and have the advantage of being able to penetrate the urban areas of Witney and Carterton as they do now, which cable cars could not. Neither are as good as running tram-trains along the Fairford branch. My bus comment is just to illustrate how daft the cable car idea is.

Score: 2

faatmaan says...9:47pm Tue 6 May 14

everybody wants to live in more rural locations, yet are not prepared to suffer the volume of traffic attributable to their lifestyle choices, cake and eat it come to mind, there needs to be massive housing developments inside Oxford to alleviate these difficulties,

everybody wants to live in more rural locations, yet are not prepared to suffer the volume of traffic attributable to their lifestyle choices, cake and eat it come to mind, there needs to be massive housing developments inside Oxford to alleviate these difficulties,faatmaan

everybody wants to live in more rural locations, yet are not prepared to suffer the volume of traffic attributable to their lifestyle choices, cake and eat it come to mind, there needs to be massive housing developments inside Oxford to alleviate these difficulties,

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King Joke says...7:54am Wed 7 May 14

faatmaan wrote…

everybody wants to live in more rural locations, yet are not prepared to suffer the volume of traffic attributable to their lifestyle choices, cake and eat it come to mind, there needs to be massive housing developments inside Oxford to alleviate these difficulties,

You're right of course, but the same contradictions apply in the city. A fair bit of land in the suburban centres is given over to low-density uses like car parking. THe City has proposed building housing on Union St and Summertown car parks, and look at the shrill opposition that has stirred up. The University's project to alleviate pressure on HMOs by building a hall of residence on St Clement's car park was similarly opposed. 'Cake and eat it' applies to wanting cheaper housing, and low-density development, at the same time.

[quote][p][bold]faatmaan[/bold] wrote:
everybody wants to live in more rural locations, yet are not prepared to suffer the volume of traffic attributable to their lifestyle choices, cake and eat it come to mind, there needs to be massive housing developments inside Oxford to alleviate these difficulties,[/p][/quote]You're right of course, but the same contradictions apply in the city. A fair bit of land in the suburban centres is given over to low-density uses like car parking. THe City has proposed building housing on Union St and Summertown car parks, and look at the shrill opposition that has stirred up. The University's project to alleviate pressure on HMOs by building a hall of residence on St Clement's car park was similarly opposed.
'Cake and eat it' applies to wanting cheaper housing, and low-density development, at the same time.King Joke

faatmaan wrote…

everybody wants to live in more rural locations, yet are not prepared to suffer the volume of traffic attributable to their lifestyle choices, cake and eat it come to mind, there needs to be massive housing developments inside Oxford to alleviate these difficulties,

You're right of course, but the same contradictions apply in the city. A fair bit of land in the suburban centres is given over to low-density uses like car parking. THe City has proposed building housing on Union St and Summertown car parks, and look at the shrill opposition that has stirred up. The University's project to alleviate pressure on HMOs by building a hall of residence on St Clement's car park was similarly opposed. 'Cake and eat it' applies to wanting cheaper housing, and low-density development, at the same time.

Score: 0

Hugh Jaeger says...6:22pm Fri 30 May 14

Building London's Emirates Air-Line cost £60 million for just 0.6 miles. The route John Hook proposes is 12 miles. Even allowing for the fact that a Witney — Oxford cableway would not be as high as the Air-Line (which is up to 300 feet high), its cost would be prohibitive. ` The smartest options between Witney and Oxford are light rail (which would be cheaper) or heavy rail (which could also take military freight tfor Brize Norton). ` Meanwhile, redoubling the Cotswold Line between Wolvercote and Charlboury would help. Then trains could run hourly, and the hourly Witney – Woodstock bus could connect with them. Passengers using Hanborough station have trebled in the last 15 years, and many of them are commuters from Witney.

Building London's Emirates Air-Line cost £60 million for just 0.6 miles. The route John Hook proposes is 12 miles. Even allowing for the fact that a Witney — Oxford cableway would not be as high as the Air-Line (which is up to 300 feet high), its cost would be prohibitive.
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The smartest options between Witney and Oxford are light rail (which would be cheaper) or heavy rail (which could also take military freight tfor Brize Norton).
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Meanwhile, redoubling the Cotswold Line between Wolvercote and Charlboury would help. Then trains could run hourly, and the hourly Witney – Woodstock bus could connect with them. Passengers using Hanborough station have trebled in the last 15 years, and many of them are commuters from Witney.Hugh Jaeger

Building London's Emirates Air-Line cost £60 million for just 0.6 miles. The route John Hook proposes is 12 miles. Even allowing for the fact that a Witney — Oxford cableway would not be as high as the Air-Line (which is up to 300 feet high), its cost would be prohibitive. ` The smartest options between Witney and Oxford are light rail (which would be cheaper) or heavy rail (which could also take military freight tfor Brize Norton). ` Meanwhile, redoubling the Cotswold Line between Wolvercote and Charlboury would help. Then trains could run hourly, and the hourly Witney – Woodstock bus could connect with them. Passengers using Hanborough station have trebled in the last 15 years, and many of them are commuters from Witney.

Score: 1

King Joke says...3:50pm Sat 31 May 14

Spot on Hugh. Why oh why do we have to dream up these fanciful solutions when the answers are staring us in the face and have been working in continental Europe for decades. Some t|t has written into the Ox Times this week promoting a monorail along the A40 which doesn't even serve the City Centre. He argues that monorails work in Seattle and Sydney - all this proves is that the English-speaking world is cucking flueless when it comes to public transport. We should just try being a bit more German, Dutch or Spanish.

Spot on Hugh. Why oh why do we have to dream up these fanciful solutions when the answers are staring us in the face and have been working in continental Europe for decades.
Some t|t has written into the Ox Times this week promoting a monorail along the A40 which doesn't even serve the City Centre. He argues that monorails work in Seattle and Sydney - all this proves is that the English-speaking world is cucking flueless when it comes to public transport. We should just try being a bit more German, Dutch or Spanish.King Joke

Spot on Hugh. Why oh why do we have to dream up these fanciful solutions when the answers are staring us in the face and have been working in continental Europe for decades. Some t|t has written into the Ox Times this week promoting a monorail along the A40 which doesn't even serve the City Centre. He argues that monorails work in Seattle and Sydney - all this proves is that the English-speaking world is cucking flueless when it comes to public transport. We should just try being a bit more German, Dutch or Spanish.

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