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John McKay: I wanted to ask you about some of the challenges of corroborating or proving the witnesses’ statements and what I have in mind are those witnesses who might lie to you in order to identify an enemy?

Interpreter: Okay, laisse-moi déjà, ça fait un peu long. So, how to prove the, proving the truth of witness statements. He says that with experience, now they have come to know who is a liar and who is a true, who, who went through the experience, truly; because when somebody has lived an experience, with time he can remember, but he’s somehow hesitant, because he’s trying to recall what happened, how it happened.

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Interpreter: While the witness, a lying witness, will give you exact dates and times these events occurred on such and such date at a given time. And now in order to, to, to identify who is telling the truth, they invert the questions – they ask the witness to tell the story from the back, backwards, and then they’ll ask them to, they ask them questions, the reverse questions.

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Interpreter: The true witness will, will tell the story, whatever the way you put the questions to him, while the liar will be confused because he was constructing and now he, he doesn’t remember the sequences.

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