Comments on: T.J. Ward “definitely” wants to return to Brownshttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/25/t-j-ward-definitely-wants-to-return-to-browns/
ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.comTue, 03 Mar 2015 20:19:35 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: raiderapologisthttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/25/t-j-ward-definitely-wants-to-return-to-browns/#comment-3035613
Thu, 26 Dec 2013 21:22:43 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3035613When your safety is leading the team in tackles, it might be a good idea to spend some of that cap money on linebackers.
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Thu, 26 Dec 2013 21:16:55 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3035598Browns have a lot of cap space and they have a lot of draft picks most important is that we have a serviceable QB IN Brayen Hoyer. So they should draft WR Sammy Watkins and with the 2nd 1st round pick they should draft a David Yankey, OG, Stanford and a 2nd round pick they should draft Andre Williams RB, Boston Collage Plz let me know what u guys think?
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Thu, 26 Dec 2013 18:26:19 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3035172Loyal lifelong Browns fan here. TJ Ward is a must-resign guy this offseason. He is a leader both on the field and in the locker room and a top 10 safety in the league. There isnt anyone out there that is a better answer in either free agency or the draft. Mack is a good, solid Center, but he is not worth being the highest paid Center in the NFL. If he were going for a market average salary, hell yeah resign him, but I would not be willing to use a ton of our cap space in him. You can get another C in free agency or the draft that will pan out just the same.
]]>By: oldcrackerhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/25/t-j-ward-definitely-wants-to-return-to-browns/#comment-3035088
Thu, 26 Dec 2013 17:58:01 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3035088Enough with reinventing the wheel every 3-4 years.

We must keep Ward, that is a given. While Mack may not be “pro bowl” caliber, he is very good and experienced with the team and at the position. (Remember what Guards he’s had to work with on either side) We had a chance to add an experienced O-line guy or two, last off-season, but didn’t. Resign Mack, too. Keep the nucleus intact and build upon it.

Don’t even waste pick on another QB unless we have “the line” to protect him. Get another WR with hands to play opposite of Gordon….THEN add a QB.

In other news, as a huge Browns fan, I am doing my best to figure out why people like or want to keep TJ Ward. Basically, it’s like we see him make one or two high profile, good plays over the course of a game or two, and suddenly our fans think he’s a top flight, pro bowl safety. That’s how desperate we Cleveland fans are for talent. We see somebody do something good once in a blue moon and suddenly, that player is the best thing since sliced bread.

What about all the games in Ward’s career in Cleveland where he was out of position on a play, attempted weak alligator arm tackles that didn’t bring the ball carrier down, had an INT hit him in the chest and couldn’t hold onto the ball, couldn’t close a 3 yard gap on a receiver/runner, etc, etc. If you *really* watch Browns games, you would know that *this* is the usual M.O. for Ward, much more than breaking up passes, tackling ball carriers, and being some kind of ball hawk. TJ Ward is yards from the ball or the tackle on far more passing plays than ones he actually helps on.

Of course, most Cleveland fans have blinders on and desperately want to cling to the idea that *someone* on this team has a lot of talent, so I’ll get plenty of thumbs down here. That’s ok- you know the truth: As much as we all want the Browns to win, TJ Ward just isn’t that great a safety. He has heart, he says the right things, and he occasionally contributes- but more often than not, he’s nowhere near the play. Just watch if you don’t believe me. You’ll see Haden or Gipson of Robertson tackle someone, and here comes TJ Ward flying past or diving on the pile- 2 seconds later.

But I sure appreciate him trying :)

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Wed, 25 Dec 2013 17:58:15 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3033964yess resign TJ Ward let mack go u can laways get a younger stud center and more offensive linemen in the draft
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Wed, 25 Dec 2013 17:07:44 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3033887Come to the AFCN CHAMPS TJ bring Joe Haden with you ! Who-Dey
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Wed, 25 Dec 2013 17:01:27 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3033874gotta have Ward. You need a guy that has no qualms about blowing out the knees of the opposing team’s players by diving into them. Student of the game for sure.
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Wed, 25 Dec 2013 16:57:26 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3033867@baltimorons, cause Cleveland has a real fanbase, not a bandwagon one.
]]>By: ballboy48http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/25/t-j-ward-definitely-wants-to-return-to-browns/#comment-3033866
Wed, 25 Dec 2013 16:55:58 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3033866Cleveland has a ton of cap space, for both, but I think they’ll resign Ward and let Mack go. Cleveland will be a key player this year in FA, and will have enough draft picks to get some players. Hopefully, for their sake, they get the right ones!
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Wed, 25 Dec 2013 16:38:35 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3033825.

Mike Lombardi has 50 million in cap space plus 2 picks each in rounds 1, 3, and 4. He already has some talent on each side of the ball. He is devoid of excuses.

Any why did Trotter leave, $$$$$. Or is that Jerome Trotter??? lol, I am well aware of when the axeman left and eventually came back. And it’s Lurie. I can’t take your talk seriously, because your facts, which begin with correct names are incorrect.

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Wed, 25 Dec 2013 15:14:01 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3033718The surest bet in Cleveland is that Dumbardi will screw this up!
Look at his first draft and free agent wave-Kruger & Mingo basically contributed nothing, McFadden couldn’t earn a snap with the starters, Bryant had a heart condition!
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Wed, 25 Dec 2013 14:58:27 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3033704It’s Jeremiah Trotter, and it was only a few years ago, not back in the day with Dawkins. Dawkins only had a year or two left in him. When he left, fans were upset, but got over it, and honored him by retiring his number. #1 reason for Banner getting let go in Philly, horrible drafts year after year, backed a poor coaching scheme (75% pass 25% run), and his time was up. But having players not resigned was far from Banner’s issue in Philly.

Get your facts right. Trotter left in 2001 and signed with the Redskins the same year the heavily favored Eagles lost to Tampa in the Championship game. The Eagles never were able to replace Trotter that year and it hurt their Superbowl chances. Future Hall of Famer Dawkins was near the end but he went to Denver, mentored their young players, and played well. You don’t let a man / player of that caliber leave town and Eagles owner Jeffry Laurie called it his biggest regret as an owner. He never felt the same about Banner after that happened.

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Wed, 25 Dec 2013 14:43:20 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3033690Embrace the Suck TJ!!!!
WHO DEY !
]]>By: thefiesty1http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/25/t-j-ward-definitely-wants-to-return-to-browns/#comment-3033666
Wed, 25 Dec 2013 14:27:22 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3033666Wanting to win a championship is one thing, actually happening, not so much. He must have forgotten he plays in Cleveland.
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Wed, 25 Dec 2013 14:25:27 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3033665Why would you want to stay in Cleveland? And expansion team since 1999 and a team dominated by the Steelers since 1991. Since 1990 the Steelers have either swept the clowns and/or had a better record. Cowher was 21-5 vs. clowns (started in 1992). Tomlin has lost twice. When Bernie the drunk bankrupt loser retired, the browns had a 17 game lead in the Steelers/browns series. Now the Steelers have a 5 game lead and the Purple Browns are our rivals. You make great beer Cleveland but your football team stinks.
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Wed, 25 Dec 2013 14:18:35 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3033662officialgame says:
Dec 25, 2013 8:47 AM
Back in the day with a superior Eagles team Joe Banner let players like Jerome Trotter and Brian Dawkins among others walk. In fact that is probably the #1 reason Philly soured on him. Hopefully for Brown fans he has learned his lesson.
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It’s Jeremiah Trotter, and it was only a few years ago, not back in the day with Dawkins. Dawkins only had a year or two left in him. When he left, fans were upset, but got over it, and honored him by retiring his number. #1 reason for Banner getting let go in Philly, horrible drafts year after year, backed a poor coaching scheme (75% pass 25% run), and his time was up. But having players not resigned was far from Banner’s issue in Philly.

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Wed, 25 Dec 2013 14:04:59 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3033653Sandra you’re nuts. Pro Bowl Center? He was in 1 in 5 years, he was an alternate that got selected as a result of injury. Solid yes, highest paid in NFL ZERO chance of that happening.

Although he did score a touchdown in the Pro Bowl LOL

]]>By: tralfaz1127http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/25/t-j-ward-definitely-wants-to-return-to-browns/#comment-3033644
Wed, 25 Dec 2013 13:54:03 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3033644He’ll be a Bengal next year, they have a ton of cap room also, a need for a safety next to Reggie Nelson, oh and they go to the playoffs.
Remember Lombardi’s history, he’ll blow the draft picks too.
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Wed, 25 Dec 2013 13:47:23 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3033637Cincy and Cleveland are about to run the AFC North for the next decade.
]]>By: officialgamehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/25/t-j-ward-definitely-wants-to-return-to-browns/#comment-3033636
Wed, 25 Dec 2013 13:47:01 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3033636Back in the day with a superior Eagles team Joe Banner let players like Jerome Trotter and Brian Dawkins among others walk. In fact that is probably the #1 reason Philly soured on him. Hopefully for Brown fans he has learned his lesson.
]]>By: pacodawghttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/25/t-j-ward-definitely-wants-to-return-to-browns/#comment-3033631
Wed, 25 Dec 2013 13:43:46 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2233311#comment-3033631Ward is a keeper, not Mack. You can’t have 30% of you money going to offensive lineman. Mack is above average that’s it. His agent wants him to be the highest paid center, no chance of that. Browns are not far way though. The difference is 4-11 and a 8-7 team is a bad snap over Weedon’s head (thanks Mack), one sided officiating (Patriors game) and anearly jump by Gibson against the Bears.
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