I have the doyle, its has a ton of pop. It s super durable too, I think it does more damage to my slider than my slider does to the board. That board is going to last me a good long time. The grip is a dense grippy foam that feels nice, not soft at all under your feet. Its a small board though, if you are much bigger than 165 lbs it might not be for you. Some guy in the classifieds has one for like $180 shipped, super deal.