Hmm when Bobby roode was champion it was more credible IMO. I tend to see the WWE title as the #1 atm (due to punks reign) followed by the TNA title. Obviously the Smackdown WHC doesnt even come into it ,at this point its a throw away title.

here we go, there's no real best in world, to quote a great man "kayfabe"

The reason why we don't get fresh ideas and promotions rising in American Pro Wrestling is because the majority of the community is happy with the same old shit and will reject any chance of change. There is a risk in doing new things, 9 times out of 10, it leads to 50+ pages of bitching and moaning. While business gets turned into a dictatorship and more and more out of touch. Support the indies, support New Pro Wrestling.

I will tell you this.Like the other guy said.Ther is no best in the world belt in anything. But i will say that this company when you see guys like Roode storm and Aries all hold the world title. You see them pissing passion.Aries shows so much passion having that belt in his hand.The way he would hold it up in pride.

This is what pisses me off about Jeff hardy being champion.The guy is champion to be the face of the company.Other then that he is a absolutly horrible champion.I see zero passion coming from this guy.Hell the guy has his own belt.Hold even that with zero pride.

Yet we have guys dying to be champion and passion is what i say defines a belt and making it have so much credibility.

This is why i say the belt has more meaning when most of these guys have it then even the wwe belt.

"If you want it bad enough you'll find a way, if you don't want it bad enough you'll find an excuse."

Aries said himself that the man (person) holding the belt gives it its credibility. I don't think one company's belt is more credible than the other, because they are, after all, two separate companies. And like I said in another post, there can never truly be a "best" or "most" anything because subjectivity is based on personal preference. There is no such thing as "the best" anything; only the best for you or to you.

I will tell you this.Like the other guy said.Ther is no best in the world belt in anything. But i will say that this company when you see guys like Roode storm and Aries all hold the world title. You see them pissing passion.Aries shows so much passion having that belt in his hand.The way he would hold it up in pride.

This is what pisses me off about Jeff hardy being champion.The guy is champion to be the face of the company.Other then that he is a absolutly horrible champion.I see zero passion coming from this guy.Hell the guy has his own belt.Hold even that with zero pride.

Yet we have guys dying to be champion and passion is what i say defines a belt and making it have so much credibility.

This is why i say the belt has more meaning when most of these guys have it then even the wwe belt.

I see where you are coming from with this. I am not a Jeff Hardy hater, but I get absolutely nothing out of him being champion, because I feel that, to his fans, he would be relevant without the belt. They're not attracted to him because he's champion, but because he's different. But I don't personally think of him as a great champion because I don't get that passion that you mentioned from him. I don't like that he made his own belt. If he wanted his own belt, then he could just have one and not be the champion. When he did that, he separated himself from the true championship, in my opinion. I can understand wanting to make your own belt if you're naming yourself a new kind of champion (it's been done before), but the original of an already-establish championship is the one that is supposed to hold the prestige. Compared to Aries, he's an exceedingly dull champion, and while I used to be a fan way back when (Hardy Boyz and Lita), I don't care for his ring work either. He feels like a self-promoter at this point, and while in general I suppose that's not wrong, if you're the champion, you need to try to get the company over as well. Like Aries did in his speech. But if you make your own championship belt that doesn't even carry the company name on it, you're promoting yourself at the expense of the company. I didn't realize that I thought this until typing it now. Jeff Hardy is not the TNA Champion; Jeff Hardy is the Jeff Hardy Champion.