I believe one thing tho is most of those Cards that are PCI Express actually will probably become part of the AGP Hotfix Suite as Radeon 9k some models of the Radeon X*** and then X**** are AGP while the rest are PCI Express.

So when I paid $549 for a X1800XT new, and it worked fine with the software provided, then to a 3870, and it worked fine, and now to a 4850, and it doesn't work on operating systems out in mass, I should have to buy another piece of software, (that fucks with my canon transfer and editing software) to make something advertised work?

Nothign against you, this rant is about ATi and their software support. If I pay a grand for a high definitino camera that supports the files natively, and alot of money for a all AMD/ATI system, their shit should work. Not, mebey, or only for users with XP-X86. But for the new operating system that has been out for ohh 2.5 years or so, it should be supported.

So when I paid $549 for a X1800XT new, and it worked fine with the software provided, then to a 3870, and it worked fine, and now to a 4850, and it doesn't work on operating systems out in mass, I should have to buy another piece of software, (that fucks with my canon transfer and editing software) to make something advertised work?

Nothign against you, this rant is about ATi and their software support. If I pay a grand for a high definitino camera that supports the files natively, and alot of money for a all AMD/ATI system, their shit should work. Not, mebey, or only for users with XP-X86. But for the new operating system that has been out for ohh 2.5 years or so, it should be supported.

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what are you looking for again? i can find links for AviVo video conversion software on the ATI site, for vista x64

For some reason ATI hasn't release Avivo package in a couple of release for Vista. It worries me because I watches alot of BR title and ATI is keeping me hanging. Don't know when they even bother to update the Avivo package.

So when I paid $549 for a X1800XT new, and it worked fine with the software provided, then to a 3870, and it worked fine, and now to a 4850, and it doesn't work on operating systems out in mass, I should have to buy another piece of software, (that fucks with my canon transfer and editing software) to make something advertised work?

Nothign against you, this rant is about ATi and their software support. If I pay a grand for a high definitino camera that supports the files natively, and alot of money for a all AMD/ATI system, their shit should work. Not, mebey, or only for users with XP-X86. But for the new operating system that has been out for ohh 2.5 years or so, it should be supported.

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You can install AVIVO video converter on Vista x64 and it works fine. It just doesn't use the GPU acceleration for encoding. I've done some thorough testing in this regard on both XP32 and Vista64 and the GPU acceleration does very little, if anything at all. There was no significant speed difference between the two OS's. And that's just on top of the fact that the converter is an utter crap. Speed is amazing, quality is very poor.

As discussed on another forum, the GPU is not used for encoding as such (on any OS), it is merely used for geometry calculations, which is only a small part of the encoding process.

To sum up, if you find the quality of the converter satisfactory, you can still use it under Vista64 no problem. It's still very, very fast. As far as I can tell, the quality in Badaboom is almost equally poor. So if it's quality you're after, then invest in some decent CPU and use x264.