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will I have had comcast for since 1994, and every september is when stuff changes.

When comcast gets new channels it always comes late sept / early oct.

Verizon fios now has TCN which since its start had nothing then a few years ago they got CSN and now they have TCN.

A Deal with verizon and the city of philaelphia have a contract which will allow verizon fios to offer FIOS in philadelphia county.

this month marked the final county left chester and they now have verizon fios. philadelphia county is next comcast has begun to loose customers.

we all know the FCC ruling and we all know that comcat wont appeal.

judging the way comcast operates changes with them always happen in september.

the other thing is COMCAST SPECTACORE ones who run comcast sports net, ED snyder OWNER.

september the WACHIOVA CENTER WILL HAVE ITS 4TH NAME CHANGE.

WELLS FARGO CENTER the spectrum is expected to be imploaded to make way for PHILLY LIVE.

their building a hotel, retaurant and bar and a mini mall that will extend a catwalk mall like to the wachoiva center.

ALL THE CHANGES INVOLVING TV PROGRAMMING WITH COMCAST always happens for some reason in september, my guess they want to do it before the NHL and NBA season.

after having looked at the fcc ruling and the march appeal date they have to offer the station. their is no way they can't. With them not appealing it will happen.

alls i'm saying is september will be the month

Couple comments on what you're saying. First, with reference to Chester county, are you saying that Chester was the last county left without FiOS, next to Philadelphia County, in SE PA? If so... that's not correct. Parts of Chester County are just starting to get FiOS - if you head pretty far out west, but Chester was probably the first county in the area to get wired up for FiOS - we got FiOS internet over 4 years ago (it became available here in January 2006), and TV became availble here about 11 months later.

Next, CableVision has decided to skip the appeal to the FCC, and went straight to the courts. The trial/decision is pending. We'll have to see how long it takes to wind its way through the courts.

Next, even if the courts uphold the FCC's action, all the action does is provide a framework for action. Meaning DirecTV would have to take Comcast to the FCC, and make the case for getting access to CSN Philly. When it gets to that point I don't have any doubt that DirecTV will win, and Comcast will have to fork it over. But then comes the carriage agreement. Comcast and DirecTV would have to come to terms to get the channel.

Yep - that's where I live (well, until next week when I move to Downingtown)... and we've had it for over 4 years. All of Chester county was among the earliest part of the region to get wired... um, fibered... up.

And yet they make money where their channel is on other systems like Chicago and Baltimore/Washington.

I don't know. Seems like they are limiting coverage of their own teams rather than drawing everyone to themselves. The Chicago teams, who are co-owners of CSN Chicago wanted to be on systems other than Comcast. So, are they cutting off their nose to spite their face?

Would you rather sell your channel for $1-2 per customer to competitive services (other cable and satellite providers), or drive them to your cable service for $75-125 per month? That's why content providers should NEVER be allowed to own significantly viewed channels. They have no incentive to share them or charge a reasonable price.

Would you rather sell your channel for $1-2 per customer to competitive services (other cable and satellite providers), or drive them to your cable service for $75-125 per month? That's why content providers should NEVER be allowed to own significantly viewed channels. They have no incentive to share them or charge a reasonable price.

Which makes the whole NBC/Comcast takeover ever more interesting of a predicament.

Would you rather sell your channel for $1-2 per customer to competitive services (other cable and satellite providers), or drive them to your cable service for $75-125 per month? That's why content providers should NEVER be allowed to own significantly viewed channels. They have no incentive to share them or charge a reasonable price.

Well, you get a buck or two for every subscriber in the area on every system versus how many actually go with you because you have the local RSN. You cannot assume that the math is that simple. Plus, it has been proven over and over again that sports on TV is a big advertisement for the teams themselves. They lose eyeballs for every DirecTV or Dish customer for that advertising. Plus commercial time drops because the households that can watch are lower.

It is far from just $1 versus $75. That is what I am saying. Comcast is taking that simple number and not figuring out the whole thing. And yet, somehow, they manage to survive in the Mid Atlantic, Chicago, the Bay Area, New York City. All areas they are on multiple systems. And remember, it was the teams themselves that insisted that CSN Chicago be available to all. Guess it means a lot to them.

An excerpt of the link states: "According to a copy of the petition obtained by Multichannel News, Cablevision is appealing "on the grounds that the Order exceeds the Commission's jurisdiction and authority; is contrary to constitutional right; violates the Communications Act of 1934, the Administrative Procedure Act, or other statutes; and is arbitrary, capricious, an abuse of discretion, or otherwise contrary to law." Rather than appealing the decision with the FCC, the company went straight to the court, according to a source. The petition to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit was filed March 15. A Cablevision spokesperson had no comment."

I am guessing Comcast (Philly) will stay mute and hope that their brethren prevail in the courts system while Comcast concentrates on absorbing NBCU.

na what i was referring to with fios was my friend ryan who lives right off of macdade his area finally is getting FIOS, i know west chester gets fios i had deliveries to the concord auto shop right at 322 and rt 1 they have fios.

what i should have said was philadelphia county to this day still doesnt have fios.

but now TCN is on fios channel 99.

i emailed directv just to see what they had to say about the fcc ruling in jan below is what they sent me of course its the year book answer. but as of know they have the right to get the channel.

Thanks for writing and for giving us the opportunity to assist you. I understand how important Comcast Sports Network is to you. Allow me to provide you with some helpful information.

The recent FCC ruling may allow us to carry additional channels but we are required to follow specific FCC guidelines before we can make any changes to our programming. We are working with the FCC on this process and we hope to have more information in the near future.

Sincerely,

Anthony D.
Employee ID 100134632
DIRECTV Customer Service

P.S. Have a question? Anytime, any topic, instant answers - support.directv.com The Answer Center provides you helpful information, 24/7, all at your fingertips.

Customer (Louis Adelman) - 04/15/2010 10:06 AM Hi, I heard the FCC ruled in favor of directv and they now have the option of getting Comcast sports net philadelphia.

I wanted to know if their is a launch date?

fcc ruled that comcast must share its regional sports network to directv.

comcast airs 2 channels that show philadelphia regional sports

CSN Philadelphia and TCN the comcast network basically an alternate.

does directv plan on adding it for the customers in this area.

please dont send me and usual were working on it please ask and executive and get a real answer

na what i was referring to with fios was my friend ryan who lives right off of macdade his area finally is getting FIOS, i know west chester gets fios i had deliveries to the concord auto shop right at 322 and rt 1 they have fios.

what i should have said was philadelphia county to this day still doesnt have fios.

but now TCN is on fios channel 99.

i emailed directv just to see what they had to say about the fcc ruling in jan below is what they sent me of course its the year book answer. but as of know they have the right to get the channel.

Thanks for writing and for giving us the opportunity to assist you. I understand how important Comcast Sports Network is to you. Allow me to provide you with some helpful information.

The recent FCC ruling may allow us to carry additional channels but we are required to follow specific FCC guidelines before we can make any changes to our programming. We are working with the FCC on this process and we hope to have more information in the near future.

Sincerely,

Anthony D.Employee ID 100134632DIRECTV Customer Service

P.S. Have a question? Anytime, any topic, instant answers - support.directv.com The Answer Center provides you helpful information, 24/7, all at your fingertips.

Customer (Louis Adelman) - 04/15/2010 10:06 AM Hi, I heard the FCC ruled in favor of directv and they now have the option of getting Comcast sports net philadelphia.

I wanted to know if their is a launch date?

fcc ruled that comcast must share its regional sports network to directv.

comcast airs 2 channels that show philadelphia regional sports

CSN Philadelphia and TCN the comcast network basically an alternate.

does directv plan on adding it for the customers in this area.

please dont send me and usual were working on it please ask and executive and get a real answer

I was confused by your initial post, which is why I replied as I did. I thought I read it to say that Chester county JUST got FiOS, which isn't correct. However on your basic questions for DirecTV, it really comes down to a couple things:

1) How will the CV lawsuit play out? Until that's settled, don't expect ANY movement with CSN Philly on DirecTV. The courts will basically 'stay' the closure of the loophole pending resolution of the court case. I suspect the decision could happen pretty quickly. You're just dealing with a basic constitutional issue here - does the FCC have the authority to close the loophole or not? If the court rules in the FCC's favor, expect CV to appeal... and at that point I think it's over. The highest it MIGHT go would be the DC court of appeals, which is one step below the Supreme Court. It might make it to the appeals court, but they would likely just affirm what the lower court found... if they took the appeal at all.

2) Does DirecTV want to add TCN? As has been stated before, that channel is open to all providers right now. DirecTV could add that today if they wanted. I get the sense that they don't have the room for it, or you would have it already. But who knows? Verizon certainly surprised us with the addition of the channel just recently - there was no indication that it was going to happen, and even after it did happen, there was little fanfare - just a small announcement on our cable boxes about the addition of the channel, and a quick press-release. That was it. Most customers still don't know that it's there (one co-worker, another FiOS subscriber, was complaining that he couldn't watch the Phillies the other day because they were on TCN... when I explained to him 'um... tune to channel 99... Verizon just added the channel.'

I have a question on the Comcast Philly situation. I have a friend in Central Pennsylvania who has DirecTV. His zip is 17022. His RSN's are Washington Area & Pittsburgh. Of course he'd love to get Comcast Philadelphia, as would I here in Florida. If he purchased MLB EI, will he get Phillies games on the non-Philly channels? Flyers on CI?

I was confused by your initial post, which is why I replied as I did. I thought I read it to say that Chester county JUST got FiOS, which isn't correct. However on your basic questions for DirecTV, it really comes down to a couple things:

1) How will the CV lawsuit play out? Until that's settled, don't expect ANY movement with CSN Philly on DirecTV. The courts will basically 'stay' the closure of the loophole pending resolution of the court case. I suspect the decision could happen pretty quickly. You're just dealing with a basic constitutional issue here - does the FCC have the authority to close the loophole or not? If the court rules in the FCC's favor, expect CV to appeal... and at that point I think it's over. The highest it MIGHT go would be the DC court of appeals, which is one step below the Supreme Court. It might make it to the appeals court, but they would likely just affirm what the lower court found... if they took the appeal at all.

2) Does DirecTV want to add TCN? As has been stated before, that channel is open to all providers right now. DirecTV could add that today if they wanted. I get the sense that they don't have the room for it, or you would have it already. But who knows? Verizon certainly surprised us with the addition of the channel just recently - there was no indication that it was going to happen, and even after it did happen, there was little fanfare - just a small announcement on our cable boxes about the addition of the channel, and a quick press-release. That was it. Most customers still don't know that it's there (one co-worker, another FiOS subscriber, was complaining that he couldn't watch the Phillies the other day because they were on TCN... when I explained to him 'um... tune to channel 99... Verizon just added the channel.'

Is TCN a local area only channel?

Also I don't think they need TCN to CSN + / CSN overflow.

For 2+ years CSN CHI + and CSN + uses CLTV and CLTV was comcast only for a long time.

For 2+ years CSN CHI + and CSN + uses CLTV and CLTV was comcast only for a long time.

CSN, CSN HD, CSN + , CSN + HD and CSN alt 2 are on Directv.

It's a local Comcast channel. It used to be called CN8, and only used to have local interest stuff on it. Comcast got rid of CN8, made it The Comcast Network, and added an HD feed, and now they use it as an overflow channel for CSN Philly.

It's a local Comcast channel. It used to be called CN8, and only used to have local interest stuff on it. Comcast got rid of CN8, made it The Comcast Network, and added an HD feed, and now they use it as an overflow channel for CSN Philly.

Is HD full time or just game only.

In Chicago on comcast CSN + HD is also called info HD and just has looping help videos when there are no games on.