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I just blew out my system yesterday and this past spring I installed harmony drains on a few zones. Overall, those lines were pretty clear before I set up the air compressor. I added the drains for extra freeze protection, not to substitute for blowing the system out. I think if that is how it is explained then people will pay for the extra protection. They know that having you back out in a few years for repairs from freezing will be expensive and will take precautionary measures.

I know that if the system is blown out then they wont have the freeze problems but stuff happens. That is why I did it to my system.

A 5 psi drain in the lowest end of every zone. I would bury the drain plugs very low and surround them in rock.

They do work but, I agree nothing beats haveing the system blown out. Explain every option to the customer and let them decide. The majority of people always chose both, drain and purging but yes I do believe a system with drains put in properly can be very productive.

i dont install self draining systems. blowing it out is the best road....anyway...you have to explain your process and what the other guys do thats wrong. Supply a list of people you have serviced to verify...its hard...but just really explain

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<br />so let me see...you sell them a self draining system for 300-500 more than a normal system....but yet you trust the self draining system so little that you get them to pay you to blow it out too? I call BS on this one dude. Sorry but if that is truly what you are doing it is wrong. Besides, as far as I remember you work on a golf course.....right?
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Dude, it's not what I want, it's what the people want. If I had the choice I would just not blow them out, but every year I have calls insisting that I blow them out too, because there neighbor with the non-draining said it's best to blow them out. I don't think that's stealing money, is it?

There isn't anything to tell them unless you have a reputation to point them to. I have been in business for almost 10 years and I still have the same problem you do.....however most people can tell we are reliable, honest, and good at what we do when the estimator speaks intelligently with them. There are some companies with great salesman/estimators that install crap systems, these are the ones to watch out for.

I would say this too, know your numbers, know how much you need to make daily, bid accordingly. Don't get greedy. Perhaps you can install a quality system for less?