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<p>Part of the problem of piracy is the uncertainty it places in the market for goods. Imagine for a moment that there is no piracy (or whatever your prefered term is, as it seems like it's no longer in vogue with some people), and you have a much more predictable market to corps, and also, usually, a larger market. This means they can lower prices and make up the difference in quantity, and have less waste in the form of unsold CDs on shelves, as they no longer have to more or less throw darts at a board to see how much/little piracy will effect sales. They could tailor their production and prices to the size of their market, possibly improving their product.</p><p>Now, would this make a significant difference?&nbsp;It's hard to tell, with piracy numbers all over the place for different types of media. It would give them an opportunity, but it's very possible that big business would just use it to keep doing the same old thing and get more money. It all depends.</p>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 05:23:04 +0000Nessmk2comment 251878 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Italian Politician Openly Admits to Pirating Musichttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2010/04/14/italian-politician-openly-admits-pirating-music#comment-251877
<p><span class="submitted"><strong>chadachada321&nbsp; <br /></strong></span></p><p>In the US any distribution of a copyrighted item without a license to do so is illegal always has been and seemingly always will be, you once had some rights to make backups and even acquire out of print items but that has mostly been done away with due tot he times and the DMCA.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Copyright should be focusing on money made from distribution not distribution and copies(copy circumvention) itself........ if you focus on distribution and copies you damage and take away the public's freedoms and rights via over reactionary and downright silly enforcement if the system can afford to police it anyway.... but if you focus on those that sell without a license its much easier to manage and track!</p><hr /><p>Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy! CP/IP laws should not effect the daily life of common people! <a href="http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/" title="http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/">http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/</a></p>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 05:22:48 +0000ZippyDSMleecomment 251877 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Italian Politician Openly Admits to Pirating Musichttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2010/04/14/italian-politician-openly-admits-pirating-music#comment-251873
<p>Big biz has the thrid or forth option,corp welfare and allowing them to write laws.</p><hr /><p>Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy! CP/IP laws should not effect the daily life of common people! <a href="http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/" title="http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/">http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/</a></p>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 00:33:40 +0000ZippyDSMleecomment 251873 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Italian Politician Openly Admits to Pirating Musichttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2010/04/14/italian-politician-openly-admits-pirating-music#comment-251870
<p>This is why a new model is needed.</p><p>It's is just accepted by the vast majority these days that people will rip off/pirate/share/borrow media (not just music) and there isn't really anything wrong with it. (regardless of how incorrect that perception is)</p><p>eg.</p><p><a href="http://www.wired.com/listening_post/2008/03/trent-reznor-pa/" title="http://www.wired.com/listening_post/2008/03/trent-reznor-pa/">http://www.wired.com/listening_post/2008/03/trent-reznor-pa/</a></p><p>38 bucks to distribute 4 albums on Amazon, puts his own tracks up on torrents etc to promote them, still makes money.</p><p>Adapt or die imo.</p>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:02:51 +0000asmodaicomment 251870 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Italian Politician Openly Admits to Pirating Musichttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2010/04/14/italian-politician-openly-admits-pirating-music#comment-251866
<p>Since when was that illegal? It's always been my understanding that it was fine to make copies and even give them to friends so long as you weren't *selling* them (which is how it should be).</p><p>-Optimum est pati quod emendare non possis-It is best to endure what you cannot change-</p>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:23:24 +0000chadachada321comment 251866 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Italian Politician Openly Admits to Pirating Musichttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2010/04/14/italian-politician-openly-admits-pirating-music#comment-251863
<p><span class="submitted"><strong>Michael Chandra</strong>&nbsp; </span></p><p>We did but the DMCA makes copy circumvenstion a crime so you can't have a copy to destroy in most cases......</p><hr /><p>Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy! CP/IP laws should not effect the daily life of common people! <a href="http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/" title="http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/">http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/</a></p>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:47:14 +0000ZippyDSMleecomment 251863 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Italian Politician Openly Admits to Pirating Musichttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2010/04/14/italian-politician-openly-admits-pirating-music#comment-251862
<p>I partially agree with you but looking at DVD,CD,cassette, ect piracy IE bootlegging the term loosely fits. The trouble is shearing,download,copying,backing up,ect while by the letter of the law infringes all the time.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>So perhaps the law is wrong and not the public. Its my opinion the only way to sort it out and make things equal and easily enforced and that is not focusing on distribution and copying but the flow of money derived from the movement of copyright. No money flow no harm done PERIOD. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And again I will say to the uptight copyright nazis grow up and understand you can make up all the rules and laws in the world but it means jack if the people will not follow them, most of file shearing these days works on the illicit flow of money, you focus on that an the world is more likely to welcome it.</p><hr /><p>Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy! CP/IP laws should not effect the daily life of common people! <a href="http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/" title="http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/">http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/</a></p>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:45:58 +0000ZippyDSMleecomment 251862 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Italian Politician Openly Admits to Pirating Musichttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2010/04/14/italian-politician-openly-admits-pirating-music#comment-251857
<p>The only definition of piracy on the books is for crimes on the high seas. What these guys are talking about is <em>infringement</em> of copyright. Not the same thing as boarding a ship at sea with the intent to steal, rape and kill.</p>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:16:58 +0000CyberSkullcomment 251857 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Italian Politician Openly Admits to Pirating Musichttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2010/04/14/italian-politician-openly-admits-pirating-music#comment-251855
<p>Indeed. They never create anything, they just leech off those who do.</p>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:38:26 +0000hellfire7885comment 251855 at http://www.gamepolitics.comRe: Italian Politician Openly Admits to Pirating Musichttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2010/04/14/italian-politician-openly-admits-pirating-music#comment-251851
<p>&quot;Piracy&quot; is a red herring crated by media companies unwilling to update their business model. Even more ironic is that these media companies are far more worried about suing little Johnny 13 year old downloading songs because he's a super fan with no money of his own to spend than they are with REAL media pirates selling copies of music all day every day in foriegn country flea markets.</p><p>These media company are focusing way too much on the lesser pirates and not enough on the greater pirates. But then again, little Johnny 13 year old is low hanging fruit with an mailing address to send subpoenas to and knows that Mom and Dad will pay out come court time, yet going after real pirates is like hard... and stuff.</p><p>I have no sympothy for these media fat cats.</p>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:02:54 +0000axiomaticcomment 251851 at http://www.gamepolitics.com