What appears to be the final specifications for the upcoming NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti have made their way online, and it seems the earlier report is accurate. The GTX 980 Ti is a slimmed down version of the same GM200 core found on the GTX TITAN X, except it's the GM200-310 variant and not the GM200-400 on the TITAN X. This GPU features 2816 CUDA cores and two SMMs disabled, so half of one GPC cluster is gone. The core clock speed remains the same as the TITAN X, with it running at 1002MHz, although the boost clock is not known. There is also 6GB of GDDR5 on the 980 Ti, which runs at 1753MHz, just like the TITAN X. The memory bus is still 384-bit, so that performance should still be similar. There is a chance the memory is divided up due to that divided GPC cluster, so 5.5GB of the total 6GB count would be effective, but that all is based on the ROP count. Since the ROP count is not mentioned right now, this is just pure speculation.

The GTX 980 Ti is not quite as powerful as its big brother, with early 3DMark numbers showing a variance in the 2% range. Not much of a difference, really, and odds are that's due to a fairly aggressive boost clock on the 980 Ti. NVIDIA is allowing its board partners to customize the 980 Ti with aftermarket cooling and even custom PCBs, which should make those cards even faster than a stock TITAN X.

If you're wondering when the GeForce GTX 980 Ti is planned to arrive, it may be quite soon. NVIDIA is expected to launch its SHIELD Android TV next Thursday, which may also coincide with the 980 Ti's launch. An exact price of the 980 Ti isn't known, but something in the $600-800 range is certainly feasible. Oh, and do be sure to check back with us on a possible review once the card arrives.

idc who is faster i am more concerned with rising gpu prices its getting out of control

im getting deja vu its the 8800 ultra all over again

Only for the ultra high-end cards. Not everyone needs a card of that caliber or even see it as something worthwhile to spend the money on, so they go for something else. Higher prices means the older stock can be reduced. Older stuff is still capable, but can now be picked up by even more people than before. If an R9 290X drops to sub-$200 prices in 4-5 months or so, well then that's a lot more enticing to someone in need of a new card, but can't swing anything over $400.

I had the same sticker shock looking at cars last year. The Mustang GT Convertible I wanted was close to 50K. 10 years ago I could get the same thing for 35K.

Consumer goods pricing goes up as the costs to put it together go up. Think of all those looking for $15hr to flip burgers. If that happens where does the cost of said burgers go? Nowhere but up. Then think about the skilled labor in the market making $15 to 18 and hour who will be expecting similar rate increases to be able to maintain the same purchasing power they previously had. It's a domino effect. It all rolls downhill.

That being said not everyone will play at the upper end. The upper end has always been a niche market, always. It is however the tech that trickles down that sells 90% of the cards in the mid range as people upgrade. Just look at all the GTX 960's that have been sold.

ya but ultra high end was not this expensive 2 gens ago even the 780 ti was only $700 but now $999 seems to be the norm

gtx 480 $499 5870 $379

gtx 580 $499 6970 $369

gtx 680 $499 7970 $550

gtx 780 $649 290x $549

gtx 780 ti $699 now i skipped the gtx 980 because its not really an uprade from the gtx 780 ti

gtx titan x $999

and who knows the gtx 980 ti might be $1299

its bs and all of us are partly to blame as well as AMD for struggling to keep up

AMD could have a card in the $1200 range if the dual-GPU Fiji is a reality. NVIDIA would be shooting itself in the foot if it sold the 980 Ti above the cost of a TITAN X.

I had the same sticker shock looking at cars last year. The Mustang GT Convertible I wanted was close to 50K. 10 years ago I could get the same thing for 35K.

Consumer goods pricing goes up as the costs to put it together go up. Think of all those looking for $15hr to flip burgers. If that happens where does the cost of said burgers go? Nowhere but up. Then think about the skilled labor in the market making $15 to 18 and hour who will be expecting similar rate increases to be able to maintain the same purchasing power they previously had. It's a domino effect. It all rolls downhill.

That being said not everyone will play at the upper end. The upper end has always been a niche market, always. It is however the tech that trickles down that sells 90% of the cards in the mid range as people upgrade. Just look at all the GTX 960's that have been sold.

Exactly. People want more money, but then cost of living goes up as a result.

And those GTX 960s are extremely capable cards for people gaming at 1080/1200. SLI them and you get even more horsepower.

ya but ultra high end was not this expensive 2 gens ago even the 780 ti was only $700 but now $999 seems to be the norm

gtx 480 $499 5870 $379

gtx 580 $499 6970 $369

gtx 680 $499 7970 $550

gtx 780 $649 290x $549

gtx 780 ti $699 now i skipped the gtx 980 because its not really an uprade from the gtx 780 ti

gtx titan x $999

and who knows the gtx 980 ti might be $1299

its bs and all of us are partly to blame as well as AMD for struggling to keep up

AMD could have a card in the $1200 range if the dual-GPU Fiji is a reality. NVIDIA would be shooting itself in the foot if it sold the 980 Ti above the cost of a TITAN X.

I had the same sticker shock looking at cars last year. The Mustang GT Convertible I wanted was close to 50K. 10 years ago I could get the same thing for 35K.

Consumer goods pricing goes up as the costs to put it together go up. Think of all those looking for $15hr to flip burgers. If that happens where does the cost of said burgers go? Nowhere but up. Then think about the skilled labor in the market making $15 to 18 and hour who will be expecting similar rate increases to be able to maintain the same purchasing power they previously had. It's a domino effect. It all rolls downhill.

That being said not everyone will play at the upper end. The upper end has always been a niche market, always. It is however the tech that trickles down that sells 90% of the cards in the mid range as people upgrade. Just look at all the GTX 960's that have been sold.

Exactly. People want more money, but then cost of living goes up as a result.

And those GTX 960s are extremely capable cards for people gaming at 1080/1200. SLI them and you get even more horsepower.

i argue that point the 8800 ultra was 9 years ago and was over $800 cost by your logic cost should have been down

there price is only restrained by how much they can get away with

let face pcb are pretty much a standard product so they can not cost that much to produce

which leaves the gpu what could possibly warrant an increase of 100% in just a few years.

We're not saying we agree with the increase in cost. Every high end card costs a lot of money, always has, always will. Frank shelled out a ton for, what, the 1900XTs or something?

The 8800 Ultra was a better card than the 8800 GTX, so it makes sense to price it higher. The 980 Ti is a stripped down TITAN X, so why would it cost $300 more?

I had 1900XT's and 8800 GTS 640MB cards that I spend over 1600 bucks on at the time. The 1900Xt's first then the 8800's.

We're not saying we agree with the increase in cost. Every high end card costs a lot of money, always has, always will. Frank shelled out a ton for, what, the 1900XTs or something?

The 8800 Ultra was a better card than the 8800 GTX, so it makes sense to price it higher. The 980 Ti is a stripped down TITAN X, so why would it cost $300 more?

if all the whopla is true why would they sell a superior chip for less and yes i do rember the 780 ti and the titan but the was different

they crippled titan and they will charge whatever they and why like many green demons have said because the can

An $800 niche card 9 years ago shows that the price point has pretty much remained constant for the top end gaming segment or gone up a couple hundred bucks as the case may be. Manufacturers set a price based on a profit margin not the cost of goods delivered. If its to much for the market to bare we get rebates or reduced prices. A product is only "worth" what someone is willing to pay for it not what it physically cost to make it. Physical build price is minimal at best. Just look at what an Iphone costs to build and what they sell for to prove out that point. What the consumer does not see is the cost of the R&D on the back end to make sure the technology is sound, that the driver package is ready to go on day 1 that there is a ton of validation testing that goes on.

Companies charge what they want because they can yes. The consumer has the power in the end by choosing to spend their cash wherever they choose. I seem to remember AMD limiting supply on the HD 5870 to drive up the price since NVIDIA at the time did not have something to compete until Fermi arrived. Make this a two sided conversation rather than bashing one side for doing something every company does. R9 290X was limited on release driving up prices as well.

They are businesses looking to make a profit for their shareholders and to continue on as a successful entity. Its how it works.

At the end of the day if it is to rich for your blood then buy a lower tier product that fits within your budget constraints and can meet the performance profile you are looking for. Not trying to be rude but niche cards and high end hardware( TitanX, R9 295X2, GTX 980, Intel X99 platforms for example) are always going to cost more than the mainstream products, Always. Only you can decide if that price/performance ratio is worth it to you.

We're not saying we agree with the increase in cost. Every high end card costs a lot of money, always has, always will. Frank shelled out a ton for, what, the 1900XTs or something?

The 8800 Ultra was a better card than the 8800 GTX, so it makes sense to price it higher. The 980 Ti is a stripped down TITAN X, so why would it cost $300 more?

I had 1900XT's and 8800 GTS 640MB cards that I spend over 1600 bucks on at the time. The 1900Xt's first then the 8800's.

We're not saying we agree with the increase in cost. Every high end card costs a lot of money, always has, always will. Frank shelled out a ton for, what, the 1900XTs or something?

The 8800 Ultra was a better card than the 8800 GTX, so it makes sense to price it higher. The 980 Ti is a stripped down TITAN X, so why would it cost $300 more?

if all the whopla is true why would they sell a superior chip for less and yes i do rember the 780 ti and the titan but the was different

they crippled titan and they will charge whatever they and why like many green demons have said because the can

An $800 niche card 9 years ago shows that the price point has pretty much remained constant for the top end gaming segment or gone up a couple hundred bucks as the case may be. Manufacturers set a price based on a profit margin not the cost of goods delivered. If its to much for the market to bare we get rebates or reduced prices. A product is only "worth" what someone is willing to pay for it not what it physically cost to make it. Physical build price is minimal at best. Just look at what an Iphone costs to build and what they sell for to prove out that point. What the consumer does not see is the cost of the R&D on the back end to make sure the technology is sound, that the driver package is ready to go on day 1 that there is a ton of validation testing that goes on.

Companies charge what they want because they can yes. The consumer has the power in the end by choosing to spend their cash wherever they choose. I seem to remember AMD limiting supply on the HD 5870 to drive up the price since NVIDIA at the time did not have something to compete until Fermi arrived. Make this a two sided conversation rather than bashing one side for doing something every company does. R9 290X was limited on release driving up prices as well.

They are businesses looking to make a profit for their shareholders and to continue on as a successful entity. Its how it works.

At the end of the day if it is to rich for your blood then buy a lower tier product that fits within your budget constraints and can meet the performance profile you are looking for. Not trying to be rude but niche cards and high end hardware( TitanX, R9 295X2, GTX 980, Intel X99 platforms for example) are always going to cost more than the mainstream products, Always. Only you can decide if that price/performance ratio is worth it to you.

the 480 580 and 680 were all $499 all i am saying is i see a pattern of price gouging because the have no real competitor just like with the 8800 ultra era with the 480 580 680 amd was close and as the have fallen behind prices have gone up

i have the resources to buy a 390/980 ti but i am making a statement buy not buying any more flagship gpu's until these manufactures come back to reality and i am aware one person means nothing to amd / nivida but i hope more people feel the same way

We're not saying we agree with the increase in cost. Every high end card costs a lot of money, always has, always will. Frank shelled out a ton for, what, the 1900XTs or something?

The 8800 Ultra was a better card than the 8800 GTX, so it makes sense to price it higher. The 980 Ti is a stripped down TITAN X, so why would it cost $300 more?

I had 1900XT's and 8800 GTS 640MB cards that I spend over 1600 bucks on at the time. The 1900Xt's first then the 8800's.

We're not saying we agree with the increase in cost. Every high end card costs a lot of money, always has, always will. Frank shelled out a ton for, what, the 1900XTs or something?

The 8800 Ultra was a better card than the 8800 GTX, so it makes sense to price it higher. The 980 Ti is a stripped down TITAN X, so why would it cost $300 more?

if all the whopla is true why would they sell a superior chip for less and yes i do rember the 780 ti and the titan but the was different

they crippled titan and they will charge whatever they and why like many green demons have said because the can

An $800 niche card 9 years ago shows that the price point has pretty much remained constant for the top end gaming segment or gone up a couple hundred bucks as the case may be. Manufacturers set a price based on a profit margin not the cost of goods delivered. If its to much for the market to bare we get rebates or reduced prices. A product is only "worth" what someone is willing to pay for it not what it physically cost to make it. Physical build price is minimal at best. Just look at what an Iphone costs to build and what they sell for to prove out that point. What the consumer does not see is the cost of the R&D on the back end to make sure the technology is sound, that the driver package is ready to go on day 1 that there is a ton of validation testing that goes on.

Companies charge what they want because they can yes. The consumer has the power in the end by choosing to spend their cash wherever they choose. I seem to remember AMD limiting supply on the HD 5870 to drive up the price since NVIDIA at the time did not have something to compete until Fermi arrived. Make this a two sided conversation rather than bashing one side for doing something every company does. R9 290X was limited on release driving up prices as well.

They are businesses looking to make a profit for their shareholders and to continue on as a successful entity. Its how it works.

At the end of the day if it is to rich for your blood then buy a lower tier product that fits within your budget constraints and can meet the performance profile you are looking for. Not trying to be rude but niche cards and high end hardware( TitanX, R9 295X2, GTX 980, Intel X99 platforms for example) are always going to cost more than the mainstream products, Always. Only you can decide if that price/performance ratio is worth it to you.

the 480 580 and 680 were all $499 all i am saying is i see a pattern of price gouging because the have no real competitor just like with the 8800 ultra era with the 480 580 680 amd was close and as the have fallen behind prices have gone up

i have the resources to buy a 390/980 ti but i am making a statement buy not buying any more flagship gpu's until these manufactures come back to reality and i am aware one person means nothing to amd / nivida but i hope more people feel the same way

I understand the point and am glad you have the resources to go high end. Many don't and won't. As long as there is competition the consumer wins. We all feel like prices get out of hand on many products but the market will correct any pricing issues eventually. The key is how long do you wait? Making the statement with your dollars is the only way you can go. That being said there are many who will be early adopters and buy the halo products at launch to get the highest FPS or move up to 4K gaming.

Lets look at Intel. over the past 8 years the price of the top consumer based CPU the Extreme Editions have been $999 at launch. Each launch the price is $999 and it stays there until the next launch. Is it worth that price? Is it gouging the consumer for a guaranteed level of performance? Depends on your perspective.

The GTX 980 was the same as the R9 290X price, so I don't see it being a "dangerous" trend or anything. An unlocked smartphone costs more than that (some are even $1,000+), yet people buy those even if they don't need them. There is a small group of people who run out and immediately buy the latest and greatest item. Prices do drop over time, so sure, while that new video card or smartphone or TV is expensive at launch, wait six months or a year until the next model is out. Is that older model suddenly the worst possible thing to buy? Absolutely not. It is just now outclassed in some way, but is by no means inferior. People can buy it then and save a good chunk of change over buying it right at launch.

The GTX TITAN launched for $999, and then the GTX 780 Ti followed at $699. The 780 Ti was more powerful than the TITAN, but was $300 less. Early numbers peg the GTX 980 Ti as being similar to the TITAN X, yet the 980 Ti is a little less powerful than the TITAN X. A cheaper price for the 980 Ti is the logical step, because why charge more for something not as powerful? NVIDIA charged less for something more powerful, so it can also charge less for something not quite as powerful.

We're not saying we agree with the increase in cost. Every high end card costs a lot of money, always has, always will. Frank shelled out a ton for, what, the 1900XTs or something?

The 8800 Ultra was a better card than the 8800 GTX, so it makes sense to price it higher. The 980 Ti is a stripped down TITAN X, so why would it cost $300 more?

I had 1900XT's and 8800 GTS 640MB cards that I spend over 1600 bucks on at the time. The 1900Xt's first then the 8800's.

We're not saying we agree with the increase in cost. Every high end card costs a lot of money, always has, always will. Frank shelled out a ton for, what, the 1900XTs or something?

The 8800 Ultra was a better card than the 8800 GTX, so it makes sense to price it higher. The 980 Ti is a stripped down TITAN X, so why would it cost $300 more?

if all the whopla is true why would they sell a superior chip for less and yes i do rember the 780 ti and the titan but the was different

they crippled titan and they will charge whatever they and why like many green demons have said because the can

An $800 niche card 9 years ago shows that the price point has pretty much remained constant for the top end gaming segment or gone up a couple hundred bucks as the case may be. Manufacturers set a price based on a profit margin not the cost of goods delivered. If its to much for the market to bare we get rebates or reduced prices. A product is only "worth" what someone is willing to pay for it not what it physically cost to make it. Physical build price is minimal at best. Just look at what an Iphone costs to build and what they sell for to prove out that point. What the consumer does not see is the cost of the R&D on the back end to make sure the technology is sound, that the driver package is ready to go on day 1 that there is a ton of validation testing that goes on.

Companies charge what they want because they can yes. The consumer has the power in the end by choosing to spend their cash wherever they choose. I seem to remember AMD limiting supply on the HD 5870 to drive up the price since NVIDIA at the time did not have something to compete until Fermi arrived. Make this a two sided conversation rather than bashing one side for doing something every company does. R9 290X was limited on release driving up prices as well.

They are businesses looking to make a profit for their shareholders and to continue on as a successful entity. Its how it works.

At the end of the day if it is to rich for your blood then buy a lower tier product that fits within your budget constraints and can meet the performance profile you are looking for. Not trying to be rude but niche cards and high end hardware( TitanX, R9 295X2, GTX 980, Intel X99 platforms for example) are always going to cost more than the mainstream products, Always. Only you can decide if that price/performance ratio is worth it to you.

the 480 580 and 680 were all $499 all i am saying is i see a pattern of price gouging because the have no real competitor just like with the 8800 ultra era with the 480 580 680 amd was close and as the have fallen behind prices have gone up

i have the resources to buy a 390/980 ti but i am making a statement buy not buying any more flagship gpu's until these manufactures come back to reality and i am aware one person means nothing to amd / nivida but i hope more people feel the same way

I understand the point and am glad you have the resources to go high end. Many don't and won't. As long as there is competition the consumer wins. We all feel like prices get out of hand on many products but the market will correct any pricing issues eventually. The key is how long do you wait? Making the statement with your dollars is the only way you can go. That being said there are many who will be early adopters and buy the halo products at launch to get the highest FPS or move up to 4K gaming.

Lets look at Intel. over the past 8 years the price of the top consumer based CPU the Extreme Editions have been $999 at launch. Each launch the price is $999 and it stays there until the next launch. Is it worth that price? Is it gouging the consumer for a guaranteed level of performance? Depends on your perspective.

im happy to hear i am not the only one who feels this way its just frustrating to hear someone try to validate these kinda of prices by saying well its the fastest single gpu and like i said before so was the 480 580 680 but they were not $800+ not much should changes in 4 years if anything prices should go down with the 8800 ultra the economy was A lot stronger then it is now and people could throw the kinda money around

Everyone who knows me says when I married my wonderful wife,.. thirty years ago that I married up and she was way out of my league,.. she told all her friends that she could change me,.. and god bless her she did change me.

So honey if your reading this,.. you made me what I am today, an upper tier product kinda guy,.. so please I have needs niche card needs (TITAN X) to be exact. :wub:

Everyone who knows me says when I married my wonderful wife,.. thirty years ago that I married up and she was way out of my league,.. she told all her friends that she could change me,.. and god bless her she did change me.

So honey if your reading this,.. you made me what I am today, an upper tier product kinda guy,.. so please I have needs niche card needs (TITAN X) to be exact. :wub:

I'll take the Titan if you get the 980 Ti. :lol: Or just get me a 980 Ti. :D

Everyone who knows me says when I married my wonderful wife,.. thirty years ago that I married up and she was way out of my league,.. she told all her friends that she could change me,.. and god bless her she did change me.

So honey if your reading this,.. you made me what I am today, an upper tier product kinda guy,.. so please I have needs niche card needs (TITAN X) to be exact. :wub: