Part 1 - Clifford
Clift, International Director for MUFON talks with Jerry about why there has been a shake up in several State
Director's positions. He candidly goes down the list and gives his side to the
story.

Clifford Clift
Interview Part 2 - Cifford tells
the details between MUFON and the Robert Bigelow organization in Las Vegas and explains when the agreement ended. He
discusses what MUFON has done to replace this rapid response team offered by
BAASS and talks about what has happened in cases being investigated in the past
year including an encounter with a 3-and-a-half foot tall ET. Then the
discussion focuses in on whether or not there is an effort by USG agencies to
destroy MUFON. (This interview
recorded February 4, 2011)