If California is in the works, which we all know, it isn't, it's going to be another year at least because they're too busy trying to get Colorado V2 to work.

California was just a stunt. They said they would be coming out with another map but have no proof they are actually working on it. This bought them enough time to adjust the current Colorado map and make it look slightly different.

They can then pass it off as just an updated map and then "work" on the next one.

You have to understand something, datCookie hates the game and thinks that anyone that does like the game is a moron. I enjoy the game and look forward to California and have seen some shots of the work they have done on it and it does look nice but it will come out when it comes out, Colorado v.2 isn't even here yet but when it gets here it will be nice. I think with all the patches and changes they have been doing to the game lately that something is going to happen for sure with CO v.2 and CA but we will just have to wait and see while people like datCookie just laugh at us until it does happen in 2016. Ha! Ha!

No, I really hope CO2 is soon but CA is maybe a wee bit further off and 2016 may not be wrong at all. LOL

Then you should know that they have been getting thier act together and have made some nice changes to the core game but I know how you guys that bought the game back in 2012 feel about the company. I think they just got stupid with the money like happens to a lot of people but they seem to have really been trying to make things better for the game. I'm glad I bought it on a whim at 3.74 USD because I have gotten my enjoyment from it more so than some AAA titles.

There really isn't any proof that they've been getting their act together at all. All they have done is make more promises. We have yet to see if those promises will be fulfilled.

As for being stupid with their money. Sergey himself took a trip to Vegas for several nights with friends not too long ago. Not only that, but now they're organising 30 people from the US to travel to Vegas with them for a short time. Talk about spending money the wrong way.

If you spent only $3 on the game of course you are going to get your money's worth out of it. You only spent a small amount.

It won't be out until next year Sergey already said they planned to get it out end of October before they realized how much work it was going to be and they will only have main city Los Campos done by the end of October.

Then you should know that they have been getting thier act together and have made some nice changes to the core game but I know how you guys that bought the game back in 2012 feel about the company. I think they just got stupid with the money like happens to a lot of people but they seem to have really been trying to make things better for the game. I'm glad I bought it on a whim at 3.74 USD because I have gotten my enjoyment from it more so than some AAA titles.

we are back to this old point again.at $3.74 what is there to complain about. at $50 or $60 I'm glad you can (and do) obviously see what the gripe with the company is. Most people who bought this in a steam sale can't grasp that concept.

I agree that they have recently made some changes that improve the core game. Some have been quite surprising, such as the GC/Cash shop issues which Titov has now acknowledges plays a huge part in the hacking problem.But it is not even got 10% of the promised content, before it degenerated into a PvP shooter due to the fact there was nothing else to do in the game because of the lack of features, promised or otherwise. And Trial accounts. So from now on there is no way anybody can buy this game on steam and then have any excuse to say they have been ripped off, particularly when they can try it for free first.And all of us with pioneer or legend accounts (pre order buyers) have apparently been upgraded to Premium game accounts. (LOL we just need a premium game to go with it)So fair's fair, you can credit them with that.

If you like it as a PvP shooter thats fine. Thats what you knowingly bought.

But hundreds of thousands of stronghold servers are still owed to pre-order buyers. They paid for servers in their package up front some of us now almost a year ago.

If this company can make available that huge number of private servers for which they have already taken the money, it'll be a very big surprise. And they'll be using our $50 or $60 dollar payments to develop your $3.74 shooter.