danbfree

Soeasytohate wrote:Don't really understand people crying about 'smart' features. Plenty of people buy cars and never use the turn signal. I don't see people wondering if there is a version of their car that doesn't have one...

Sorry, not even close to the same argument. Plenty of people buy a lower equipment level of car for features they don't need. MANY people already get "smart" features from their Blu Ray player, Roku, HTPC, etc and don't want to pay a dime more for something they will literally never use. In this regard, Vizio is losing a part of the market for us types that refuse to pay for these features on a budget brand, especially when I can get a 60" Sony at Fry's, brand new, for the same price.

gak0090

jaredflaherty wrote:yes, i have the 60" one too. got it for 799.99 at walmart last month. i am having issues with wireless connectivity. would you please let me know what router you are using? i couldn't ever get my netgear n router to work with it. i have a d-link that works great sometimes, and other times not so great. Thanks!

I have had nightmares with routers. I have owned a couple netgears including WNDR4500, Cisco EA4500 and was always frustrated. I have 6 LAN connections and about a dozen wireless connections including VOIP, and 2 repeaters. I was getting drops, delays and I am no networking expert, so I figured I was doing something wrong. I had purchased 4 of these routers
ENCORE ENHWI-2AN3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833180062 when Newegg had them for like $22 each. I used them as repeaters, and for cheap router for a family member, and kept one as back-up. When I threw my Netgear WNDR4500 against the wall- I was forced to use this cheap Encore back-up as my main router. Yeah it's not gigabit, and its not dual band, and it maxes at 300 Mbps- but I discovered after a week of use (while looking for a new router) that this was the most dependable, no freeze ups, best coverage and best throughput that I had compared to those other much more expensive routers. It appears that Newegg no longer carries this. I think this model has replaced it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AT0M30787

I swear by these products, the only caveat is that some of the instructions are a little cryptic. If you can't figure it out, the reviews on newegg, via the links I gave you, does best in explaining the set-up (especially if you do the repeater).

gak0090

danbfree wrote:Sorry, not even close to the same argument. Plenty of people buy a lower equipment level of car for features they don't need. MANY people already get "smart" features from their Blu Ray player, Roku, HTPC, etc and don't want to pay a dime more for something they will literally never use. In this regard, Vizio is losing a part of the market for us types that refuse to pay for these features on a budget brand, especially when I can get a 60" Sony at Fry's, brand new, for the same price.

These features are not expensive to package with the TV. Basically it's like power windows in a car. I would be surprised if the addition of these "smart features" added more than $20-30 to the set. At some point it will be so universal that the option to buy one without smart features won't even exist. I can't even find a bluray player (unless it's an old model) that does not have smart features- even at the very cheapest price point. Here is an example of the cheapness of this technology- for $40 you can get a dual core Android USB stick with HDMI out. This has way more functionality than the basic OS that they put on smart TV's.

danbfree

gak0090 wrote:These features are not expensive to package with the TV. Basically it's like power windows in a car. I would be surprised if the addition of these "smart features" added more than $20-30 to the set. At some point it will be so universal that the option to buy one without smart features won't even exist. I can't even find a bluray player (unless it's an old model) that does not have smart features- even at the very cheapest price point. Here is an example of the cheapness of this technology- for $40 you can get a dual core Android USB stick with HDMI out. This has way more functionality than the basic OS that they put on smart TV's.

Not sure if you are agreeing with me or not, but the problem is that the TV companies charge at LEAST $100 more for these features most people don't need... All i'm saying is PLEASE continue to offer models without these features and you are more likely to get my business.

gak0090

danbfree wrote:Not sure if you are agreeing with me or not, but the problem is that the TV companies charge at LEAST $100 more for these features most people don't need... All i'm saying is PLEASE continue to offer models without these features and you are more likely to get my business.

I'm saying those features are going to be on all TV's soon because the cost to add them is practically negligible- so the option to buy one without these features is quickly disappearing. The ones you see without the features are discounted to help them sell- they will be replaced with models that contain these features. The example I gave with the bluray player market illustrates that. You can't even buy recent bluray players without smart features, and they are still like $70-80 on sale.

I don't know, but I think you can get more than one year from Square Trade. I would guess it would be way cheaper than the $342.00 difference between Costco and Woot. Plus, I think you have to pay for a Costco membership to buy stuff from them.

gak0090

I don't know, but I think you can get more than one year from Square Trade. I would guess it would be way cheaper than the $342.00 difference between Costco and Woot. Plus, I think you have to pay for a Costco membership to buy stuff from them.

Look this is a decent deal. But usually if you buy from Sams or Costco you don't pay shipping, cause generally you just pick it up from their club. The extended warranty I got from Sams on my 60" (version of this model)cost me $60 for 2 years (starting after the end of the manufacturers warranty. The other nice thing about these clubs is they don't hassle you about doing returns (even out of warranty). So if you are confident in the refurb today- this is financially the best deal. If you have been burnt in the past on items like this, and don't mind spending a bit more for piece of mind, you can't beat Sams and Costco for the convenience of returning items- it is well worth the yearly fee of $40 (for Sams)- I don't have a Costco membership.

danbfree

gak0090 wrote:Look this is a decent deal. But usually if you buy from Sams or Costco you don't pay shipping, cause generally you just pick it up from their club. The extended warranty I got from Sams on my 60" (version of this model)cost me $60 for 2 years (starting after the end of the manufacturers warranty. The other nice thing about these clubs is they don't hassle you about doing returns (even out of warranty). So if you are confident in the refurb today- this is financially the best deal. If you have been burnt in the past on items like this, and don't mind spending a bit more for piece of mind, you can't beat Sams and Costco for the convenience of returning items- it is well worth the yearly fee of $40 (for Sams)- I don't have a Costco membership.

OR, if you have a Fry's nearby, you can get a Sony 60" with similar features, brand new, for the same price that is a minimum of $1477 elsewhere... The only catch is that you can't buy it online for that price, it's walk-in only. So, IMHO, this is only a good deal if you absolutely insist on having a 65" over a 60".

RichardCarver

escalante wrote:That Olevia was a super deal for the time, I would have purchased it but the crazy weight stopped me. If I remember correctly, it weighed about 250 pounds. Way too heavy.

They were great TVs for the day. I bought the woot and had no problems with it. Recently traded it to my carpenter for labor and I have to admit it was pretty funny watching two big, healthy guys whining and cussing trying to get that monster on the back of a pick up. They couldn't believe how much it weighs!

antflies

Well I was considering something over 60", and I ended up pulling the trigger on this. I have a Sony 52 LCD in my bedroom, and a Toshiba 55" in living area. I plan on putting the Sony 52" in my 3 yr. old daughters room and moving the Toshiba 55" to my bedroom. I hope this TV is as good as my Toshiba. I think the 52" in my daughters room is a little overkill, but oh well.

Shakes1

I have the Vizio 55" LED smart tv. I bought it refurb, added a square trade warranty, and had an issue with it, square trade resolved and it has been fantastic for a good year now, I love this set. I also added a Vizio soundbar and the tv remote controls it too. Excellent picture and set for the price!!!

mecooley721

khunjeff wrote:Seems like a pretty sweet deal. My very first Woot was the 65" Olevia big pimpin' TV back in 2008 - it's great, and I still use it, but it cost 2 1/2 times as much as this one, and weighs twice as much.

My uncle got the same one and he just moved the thing must weigh 200 pounds

RasOne

darkinc wrote:I have the 47" smart tv and I must say the hulu app is total junk. I am not sure if the problem is across all of their smart TV's, but it seems like the buffer for the hulu app is just to small. You can be in the middle of watching a movie or a show and it will just start to stutter, showing a second of movie + sound then pause for a second, doing this over and over. The only fix is to turn the TV off and turn it back on and start your movie from where you left off. It does not always happen, it seems to be random and when it does happen there is no recovering from it.

It only does it on hulu, so it is not my internet, as I also have a ROKU I use in another room and hulu works perfectly, as well as for my other brand smart TV the hulu app works flawlessly.

--snip--

The Hulu Plus app is the one we use the most. It has never stopped to buffer except at the very beginning when we first choose the episode to watch, after those few seconds, it runs until the show is finished. My first suggestion would be to check your router, but since other apps are working fine, I would guess your actual app might be corrupted.

Oh by the way, this TV has a very 'flat/matte' non-reflective screen, much less reflection then most other TV's in this size range. Compare at a store, look for which ones are like mirrors. We have a window behind our main seating and this TV does not have much reflection or glare from the window.

tracker1

dofarrell wrote:Is there a non-"smart" variant of this TV to compare prices to?

This is a pretty good price for the size of the TV regardless of smart features. I'm using a 3D/240hz model that I paid $1500 for just a few months ago... would have gotten this instead had I seen it.

Most TVs larger than 50" are going to have "smart" features.. and were more likely to offer 3D features. Though I'm glad that the 3D fad is fading a bit.. outside of multiplayer gaming on the same screen, it isn't much use imho.

darkinc

RasOne wrote:The Hulu Plus app is the one we use the most. It has never stopped to buffer except at the very beginning when we first choose the episode to watch, after those few seconds, it runs until the show is finished. My first suggestion would be to check your router, but since other apps are working fine, I would guess your actual app might be corrupted.

Oh by the way, this TV has a very 'flat/matte' non-reflective screen, much less reflection then most other TV's in this size range. Compare at a store, look for which ones are like mirrors. We have a window behind our main seating and this TV does not have much reflection or glare from the window.

It's not buffering, it's actual stuttering of the video, I've tried reinstalling the app, but that doesn't seem to do much either. Maybe it's just a flaw with the model I have.

gsmit114

ThunderThighs wrote:For items this large, freight companies are used. That's why you must provide physical address and phone number to schedule a delivery appointment.

So uh, been 6 days, no email or call beyond the initial purchase conf; this is a surprise gift to my parents, to finally get rid of their 34" crt boob tube, and it would be nice if it got there before my dad's b-day in 2 weeks.

ThunderThighs

gsmit114 wrote:So uh, been 6 days, no email or call beyond the initial purchase conf; this is a surprise gift to my parents, to finally get rid of their 34" crt boob tube, and it would be nice if it got there before my dad's b-day in 2 weeks.

Any hint to average wait b4 delivery appt scheduling?

I'm shipping it to their cat's name btw. xD

while often faster, we ask that you allow 5 business days (not counting the sale) for processing and shipping out. Today is the 4th shipping day. Hang tight, oh impatient one.

orochi235

Just got mine this morning. Would like to try it out, but it showed up with the two halves of the stand bolted together—without the piece that's supposed to be sandwiched in between them attached—by three utterly, hopelessly stripped screws. Half the pads on the bottom of the stand are missing, too. Waiting for customer service to open, and looking up my state AG's consumer protection laws in the meantime.

ThunderThighs

orochi235 wrote:Just got mine this morning. Would like to try it out, but it showed up with the two halves of the stand bolted together—without the piece that's supposed to be sandwiched in between them attached—by three utterly, hopelessly stripped screws. Half the pads on the bottom of the stand are missing, too. Waiting for customer service to open, and looking up my state AG's consumer protection laws in the meantime.

The warranty is through Woot so email support@woot.com and they'll help you out. Sorry for the problem.

ltabel

I am disappointed in the shipping option woot chose. I got a call today from the Miami based delivery company saying they have a delivery from woot for me but they won't be in my area (west palm beach) until Tuesday. That means my tv is in south Florida but I have to wait 4 days to get it. Ridiculous!

DenverBroncos24

ltabel wrote:I am disappointed in the shipping option woot chose. I got a call today from the Miami based delivery company saying they have a delivery from woot for me but they won't be in my area (west palm beach) until Tuesday. That means my tv is in south Florida but I have to wait 4 days to get it. Ridiculous!

Well, at least you've HEARD from the shipping company. I have no idea where my package is. I have no ability to track it whatsoever, so who knows if it is coming tomorrow or a week from tomorrow. I was at Target last night and they have the 60" version of this TV for sale for 949.00, new obviously. Kinda wish I just did that after hearing about these problems people are having. Oh well. Here is to hope.

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