She may be an irrepressible windbag, but she's right about dreamers. Deporting them is an authoritarian measure that is patently immoral, cruel, anti-family, and economically illiterate.

That's quite a fair comment Steve. I was only comparing her 8 hour performance with the legendary hours' long public, pep-talk speeches for which Castro in his heyday was well known for.

I am of the opinion these days (despite my sometimes long posts on this website) that when stating your case (as a rule) the more succinctly you are able to do it, the more likely your listeners are to remember what you say afterwards.

She may be an irrepressible windbag, but she's right about dreamers. Deporting them is an authoritarian measure that is patently immoral, cruel, anti-family, and economically illiterate.

Considering that Trump proposes to give 1.8 million (a million more than the democrats) permanent residence plus a path to citizenship would seem to make Pelosi even more of a wind bag.

True if he actually signs something. But he's such an habitual liar that until that happens I believe nothing.

The irony is that the democrats can't vote for it and therefore have to say it is not good enough. Even though 1 million more dreamers will be allowed to have permanence residence under it. Either they are making a stand in support of DACA or they are just playing politics (IE Lying about their motives)

THe truth is they do not want DACA to pass it is the only thing they have left to run on.

(And yes, within that, I realise he doesn't control Congress.)
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I disagreee on this Trump has boxed in the democrats on this. That is control.

“The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.” … George Orwell

Could either of you good men enlighten me on this? I thought that Trump was keen to deport over 1 million undocumented illegals back to El Salvador and a few weeks later he wants to give all of their "dreamer" offspring permanent residence in the US. Why this apparent policy backflip?

Could either of you good men enlighten me on this? I thought that Trump was keen to deport over 1 million undocumented illegals back to El Salvador and a few weeks later he wants to give all of their "dreamer" offspring permanent residence in the US. Why this apparent policy backflip?

Because Trump is personally completely uninterested in policy, and is being blown back and forth by different factions in the White House.

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