What's funny is that Kopitar and Franzen are the exact same size. 6'3" 225 lbs.

But if you watch them play you'd think Kopitar was a few inches and 70 lbs bigger than mule. Kopi is so strong in the corners and impossible to move off the puck.

I guess that's not really funny at all, just sad.

That's because the Kings have big, gritty players on the roster, who toughen him up. We don't.

I always say Downey, Drake, McCarty and Lilja toughened our soft Euros up as the season went on in 2008.

Who do we have now that can stir the pot on the 4th line? I guess we just added Tootoo, so that should help. But I still think we need more in that department. Then Holland comes out and spends 3 million on Samuelsson of all people.

That's because the Kings have big, gritty players on the roster, who toughen him up. We don't.

I always say Downey, Drake, McCarty and Lilja toughened our soft Euros up as the season went on in 2008.

Who do we have now that can stir the pot on the 4th line? I guess we just added Tootoo, so that should help. But I still think we need more in that department. Then Holland comes out and spends 3 million on Samuelsson of all people.

I disagree.

Kopitar is tough all on his own. It's not like he's going to be out there fighting guys (though he did fight Burrows this year when Burrows went after him) but I think he'd play that way on any team. He plays like Z if Z were Franzen's size.

Kopitar is tough all on his own. It's not like he's going to be out there fighting guys (though he did fight Burrows this year when Burrows went after him) but I think he'd play that way on any team. He plays like Z if Z were Franzen's size.

I'm not talking about fighting. I'm talking about playing gritty and battling for pucks in corners. I think it's easier to do that when your teammates play a similar style, especially on the bottom lines. They set the tone for the game and you follow their example.

Our 4th line last year was a joke and didn't set the tempo for any kind of physical or gritty style. Hence, I don't think Kopitar would play like he did in LA for our team.

Sounds like a "charity job" like they seem to be giving out upon retirement recently. I love Lids as much as anyone but really how much scouting is he really going to do. He was smart on the ice but does he have an eye for young talent? I would much rather have seem him in some sort of coaching role.

Sounds like a "charity job" like they seem to be giving out upon retirement recently. I love Lids as much as anyone but really how much scouting is he really going to do. He was smart on the ice but does he have an eye for young talent? I would much rather have seem him in some sort of coaching role.

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