{Ed025's Note - its funny how yesterdays hard men are todays thugs, the likes of souness, case and tommy smith used to punch people as an alternative to a hand shake but when the shoe is on the other foot some fans think they are the devil incarnate...oh to be holier than thou..

2.) 29 May 2018 18:01:53
That’s the 1st time I’ve actually seen that, I’d say unbelievable but from him, it is.

4.) 29 May 2018 18:11:31
Agree to a point Ed. but they way Ramos lays on the hard ones, then falls to the floor like he’s shot when someone comes near him (faking Manes foul to get him a yellow card) means he’s not a hard man in my eyes. he’s all about deceiving the ref and putting in cheap shots.

{Ed025's Note - im not defending ramos for one minute SG, a complete idiot for the way he acts but hes not the first...and wont be the last so its up to the authorities to clamp down on cheating of all forms mate..

5.) 29 May 2018 18:25:45
Lad's there's no point in going ove old ground. Unfortuneatly we lost and we all know about Ramos just forget about lad's as best you can that is YNWA.

{Ed001's Note - just to point out the difference between a hard man like Souness and Case and a thuggish coward like Ramos is play acting. Souness and Case would never have feigned injury to get an opponent sent off, they would never have admitted to being hurt and if they got kicked they kicked back harder. Ramos gets a breath of wind from an opponent and he is one the floor crying in agony until he gets a free kick. I have no problem with him giving it out if he wasn't such a cheat when it is the other way round.}

7.) 29 May 2018 18:31:07
"Yesterdays hardmen" played over 40 years ago but that's ok let's use them as the standard to judge what is acceptable behaviour in todays football.

{Ed025's Note - im just saying...people who live in glass houses and all that..

8.) 29 May 2018 18:41:48
Ah Ed mate I'm as gutted as any supporter but I just don't see the point in still talking about it cause it's only going to still annoy us. So let's look to the future and a busy summer of new players YNWA.

9.) 29 May 2018 18:50:03
Thing is Ed025, as Ed001 pointed out, you’d never see the likes of Souness, Smith, Bremner, Harris feign injury to get an opponent sent off. They were double hard b*stards, but they weren’t snide and cowardly like Pepe or Ramos.

12.) 29 May 2018 20:22:00
You just reminded me Ed001, although he didn't fake an injury to get someone sent off, he did con the ref into not sending him off. Imagine this tackle today haha. God he was scary.

02 Feb 2016 18:08:50
Thank God for the TV money now the likes of WHU, Stoke and Newcastle can compete with us at the same level - MID TABLE

Look at Man Utd from the start of the premership. Doubled their stadium and pushed up ticket prices. Gave them so much financial power in the transfer market before the Glaaziers come along. They could outspend every other team each season by a ratio of 2 to 1. No wonder they dominated.

Things have equalised with the arrival of oil money. Arsenal have emulated Man Utd. They can spend 50 Euros per player without blinking.

But i guess we should stay where be are, not bother without joining the Euro Super League which will definitely alienate fans further when they can't afford to fly to Paris, Rome, Munich Madrid every other week.

Lets stay firmly in the past, forget about stadium naming rights afterall, we didn't do something as crass as introduce advertising into UK football with Candy on our shirts!