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Re: Luck vs Griffin - let it begin.

That is very funny. The Redskins line is about 1000% better than the Colts line. I think the Redskins could beat the Colts with their number two defense and offense. There is a HUGE difference between these two teams. ...

Out line sucks. And that is assuming Trent stays healthy (and leaves the bong alone).

They looked better today, but they still let people up the middle effing intouched a number of tes

Re: Luck vs Griffin - let it begin.

I am annoyed with the RG3 hype. A year ago, nobody knew who he was except Big 12 football fans. After one great college season, the media has pushed him to ridiculous levels. Sorry, but I just don't like the guy. I hate his stupid socks, and his cocky smirk on his face. This hype machine even won RGIII the Heismann, which Luck clearly deserved to win. RGIII has Luck's Heismann just like Charles Woodson has Peyton's.

My. Thoughts. Exactly.

"What you do is so loud, I can't hear what you say" -Andrew Luck
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Re: Luck vs Griffin - let it begin.

You're nuts. People can say what they want about Polian, but Irsay has at least had the humility to understand he knows little about football and needs a football guy in charge. Snyder ran the Redskins into the ground for years, trading draft picks like they were candy. The Colts meanwhile preserved their draft picks, drafted intelligently in the early 2000's and eventually won a SB in 2006 because of it.

I live in DC, and Snyder's attitude of milking the fans for every cent has turned off many in a fanbase that is way more loyal than the Colts fanbase. From selling expired airline peanuts for like $10 to charging ridiculous amounts of money for parking, to suing a local newspaper for making fun of him his vanity has no bounds.

Snyder now has put adults in charge, but I'm skeptical. They gave up a lot of picks to get RG3, which may work for them but it is a massive gamble. Shanahan has a great reputation, but he's never won anything without Elway.

Re: Luck vs Griffin - let it begin.

You're nuts. People can say what they want about Polian, but Irsay has at least had the humility to understand he knows little about football and needs a football guy in charge. Snyder ran the Redskins into the ground for years, trading draft picks like they were candy. The Colts meanwhile preserved their draft picks, drafted intelligently in the early 2000's and eventually won a SB in 2006 because of it.

I live in DC, and Snyder's attitude of milking the fans for every cent has turned off many in a fanbase that is way more loyal than the Colts fanbase. From selling expired airline peanuts for like $10 to charging ridiculous amounts of money for parking, to suing a local newspaper for making fun of him his vanity has no bounds.

Snyder now has put adults in charge, but I'm skeptical. They gave up a lot of picks to get RG3, which may work for them but it is a massive gamble. Shanahan has a great reputation, but he's never won anything without Elway.

Re: Luck vs Griffin - let it begin.

I don't know what you are watching but RGIII has completely outplayed Luck in this game. He has shown a cannon of an arm although he didn't connect on those passes, he showed it to the Colts and that opens up many things for him. I see dink pass after dink pass by Luck running for his life behind a terrible offensive line. I think Luck has a long, long way to go and RGIII is going to win and be a star for the Redskins right now. I don't know who you are listening too calling this game but Joe Theisman said that he doesn't see Luck staying healthy all season behind this line. I don't either.... ...

You really have no idea that saying "Joe Theisman said" multiple times really hurts any point you're trying to make, do you?

Re: Luck vs Griffin - let it begin.

Predicting RG3 to fail based off one preseason game (and this ignores its a game he played well in, and ignoring your obvious personal bias) is about as stupid as predicting Lucks failure because he has one bad game.

Clearly this will fall on deaf ears, so my apologies for interrupting your bashing party of RG3. Please returning to telling us how great Luck is and how RG3 will never amount to anything.

Re: Luck vs Griffin - let it begin.

Predicting RG3 to fail based off one preseason game (and this ignores its a game he played well in, and ignoring your obvious personal bias) is about as stupid as predicting Lucks failure because he has one bad game.

Clearly this will fall on deaf ears, so my apologies for interrupting your bashing party of RG3. Please returning to telling us how great Luck is and how RG3 will never amount to anything.

I'll stop hating. I actually thought he played well today, and the Skins could surprise some teams in the East

Being unable to close out a game in which you have a comfortable lead in the 4th Q = Pulling a Frank Vogel

Re: Luck vs Griffin - let it begin.

I was...thanks. Harnisch didn't do too badly with the opportunity. Whalen continues to look good.

Yeah, I still want to see him go against guys that won't be bagging groceries in a couple days, but there's no denying he's looked great. Surest looking hands on the team outside of Reggie. Had no interest in him at all when they first brought him in but he should make the roster.

Re: Luck vs Griffin - let it begin.

Yeah, I still want to see him go against guys that won't be bagging groceries in a couple days, but there's no denying he's looked great. Surest looking hands on the team outside of Reggie. Had no interest in him at all when they first brought him in but he should make the roster.

I'm with you. I thought he would be a complete afterthought. I'm surprised. He's got a serious case for making it, particularly with the Collie sitch...unless they acquire a WR. Certainly can't feel confident about Avery. Sure he could recapture his short lived Rams success, but that has to be considered a longshot.

I agree the Griffin gamble probably needed to be made. It will be tougher for the Redskins to find good complementary players with less draft picks though. They are going to have to find some good talent in the 3rd, 4th round at least for the next couple of years. I hope they can do it because the vibe in the DC area is so much better when the Redskins are winning.

Re: Luck vs Griffin - let it begin.

I would still take Luck over RGIII and saw nothing today to change my opinion.

You will never find anything about our team that is better than any other team. You're talking redskins for godsakes. We have outperformed them over the last decade by miles but to listen to you they are perennially in the superbowl with their brilliant owner who is known as a fool. Compare Irsay to Snyder for the decade and the entire redskin fan base would take Irsay. Have you found an expert to say Snyder is a smarter or better owner?

Re: Luck vs Griffin - let it begin.

I'm with you. I thought he would be a complete afterthought. I'm surprised. He's got a serious case for making it, particularly with the Collie sitch...unless they acquire a WR. Certainly can't feel confident about Avery. Sure he could recapture his short lived Rams success, but that has to be considered a longshot.

Re: Luck vs Griffin - let it begin.

I don't know what you are watching but RGIII has completely outplayed Luck in this game. He has shown a cannon of an arm although he didn't connect on those passes, he showed it to the Colts and that opens up many things for him.

Luck, playing with a poor line against a good defense: 14/23, 151 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 60.8%, 6.6 YPA, 94.7 rating

I don't see how in the world you can say that "RGIII completely outplayed Luck". Both were good, but the statistical evidence says that Luck played a better game. The only thing RGIII beat Luck in was completion percentage, yet Luck still managed to average two more yards per passing attempt. But I'm supposed to think that RGIII played a better game because he threw some long bombs that were incomplete? Any NFL quarterback can throw some long incomplete passes. The fact that you have to use long incomplete passes to back up your assertion that RGIII was better shows that RGIII didn't beat Luck in the stats that actually matter.

If Luck had RGIII's offensive line then he would have completely outclassed RGIII.