Requests the parties return when amendments are
ready. Closes public hearing on HB 3060. Opens public hearing on HB 3226.

HB 3226
PUBLIC HEARING

050

Rep. Rob Patridge

House District 6. Provides PowerPoint presentation (EXHIBIT A). Testifies in favor of HB
3226. Explains the issues behind Public Safety Answering Points (PSAPs).
Speaks on consolidation issues. Discusses his work on public safety issues.
Informs the committee of dispatch systems. Provides a history of State Police
Dispatch Centers. Speaks on the need to upgrade. Lists the reasons the
program would be beneficial to government.

Asks if he suggests that 9-1-1 services are being
provided by tax money.

005

Rep. Patridge

Affirms and comments on the costs to the state.

014

Chair Krummel

Clarifies the money paid by the state and local
governments.

016

Rep. Patridge

Explains.

018

Chair Krummel

Asks for the statewide cost for 9-1-1 service is.

022

Rep. Patridge

Extrapolates the state picks up 20% of the cost,
about $30 million, currently.

029

Rep. Prozanski

Clarifies the legislature would remove funds from
other programs.

033

Rep. Patridge

Estimates the money missing.

036

Rep. Prozanski

Speaks to the vision of the program overall.

040

Rep. Patridge

Asserts he never said the actions were correct.

042

Rep. Prozanski

Comments on an aspect missing from the program.

047

Rep. Patridge

Understands the questions on the matter.

054

Rep. Prozanski

Poses question regarding the backup systems and his
vision for them.

059

Rep. Patridge

Explains the system would be statewide.

063

Rep. Prozanski

Asks if there will be a loss of time.

Rep. Patridge

Responds he does not see a substantial delay.

073

Rep. Prozanski

Asks if it would not be better to facilitate overall
communication initially and works in steps.

082

Rep. Patridge

Believes the issue is nothing new. Speaks to the
current budget crisis to illustrate the need for the program. Offers he would
like to leave some aspects of the program to local governments, but that
consolidation is important to the model. States he does not believe the
federal government will fund the whole program.

113

Rep. Kitts

Poses question about the cost ratio.

117

Rep. Patridge

Responds that the cost per call is currently
inappropriate. Thinks optimization by the legislature would help the burden
on citizens. Speaks on Full-time Equivalent (FTE) employees.

140

Rep. Kitts

Asks what the percentage of costs to the state would
be.

144

Rep. Patridge

States the state would overtake the program entirely.
Comments on radio networks and jurisdiction by district.

160

Rep. Mabrey

Believes the question is not whether citizens in
Oregon are well served by 9-1-1. Asks why given the states’s history of
funding programs adequately citizens should feel comfortable giving the
government the authority to oversee the funds.

180

Rep. Patridge

Disagrees with Rep. Mabrey’s views on government
funding of programs. Comments on the need for local and state governments to
work together. Believes the state is a more apt purveyor of the network.

205

Chair Krummel

Speak to section three of the bill.

222

Rep. Patridge

Explains the intent of the section.

224

Chair Krummel

Questions the cost.

226

Rep. Patridge

Notes the cost would be on the government.

236

Chair Krummel

Clarifies.

238

Chair Krummel

Asks why a local government would spend its own
money to fund a separate PSAP.

245

Rep. Patridge

They might believe the service would be improved.

250

Chair Krummel

Asks if it is his vision despite the type of phone
service.

259

Rep. Patridge

Replies.

266

Chair Krummel

Offers example of air frequencies.

284

Rep. Patridge

Differentiates older and new technology.

300

Rep. Nelson

Comments on the situation in her district. Asks HB
3226 is a mandate.

315

Rep. Patridge

Replies it is not a mandate on local government as
the state would pay for the costs.

322

Rep. Nelson

Requests the other options.

327

Rep. Patridge

Explains two service centers would achieve
efficiency and cost savings. Voices hope the legislature can spend down in
areas such as these.

358

Rep. Nelson

Asks if the PSAP could be by county.

368

Rep. Patridge

Explains he has looked oat situations such as those
and that it would not be beneficial.

TAPE 43, B

005

Rep. Jeff Kropf

House District 17. Comments in his own involvement
as a firefighter. Testifies against HB 3226 (EXHIBIT B). Reads account of a town hall meeting in Stayton on
the negative effects of 9-1-1 consolidation. Voices concern for consolidation
as a burden to citizens. Provides accounts of emergency management. Believes
the current system is working and efficient at the local level.Speaks to issues of radio tuning. Comments
on a meeting with Tom Ridge of Homeland Security regarding first response to
terrorism and needed upgrades in communications. Concludes.

182

Judge Laura Pryor

Gilliam County Judge. Testifies against HB 3226.
Calls attention to district size versus population regarding 9-1-1
operations. Provides accounts of an emergency in a rural part of the state.
Points out there is no cell phone reception in parts of the counties.

House District 57. Testifies in favor HB 3124.
Explains the rural implications of 9-1-1 regarding safety and expense.
Challenges the committee the issues as one of local control. Provides an
account of a family emergency to illustrate the importance of local PSAPs.

TAPE 44, B

005

Rep. Smith

Notes the lawsuits the State could incur when the
services are not provided. Provides he introduced HB 3124and requests that formation
of a workgroup be considered.

030

Rep. Wirth

Comments.

035

Chair Krummel

Comments.

042

Sen. Tony Corcoran

Senate District 4. Testifies in favor of HB 3154.
Shares an anecdote of burglary to illustrate the need for local control of
public safety issues.

075

Rep. Jeff Kruse

House District 7. Notes the bipartisan agreement on
the measures. Testifies in favor of the bill he has sponsored, HB 3154.
States support for the related measure, HB 3124 and HB 3257. Points out the
need for local involvement in emergencies. Believes the issue should not be
one of money, it should be of public safety. Echoes the concerns of Rep.
Smith on central dispatch and the need for redundancy. Urges quick action on
HB 3154.

132

Rep. Prozanski

Requests what vehicle was used to establish
sponsorship.

137

Rep. Kruse

Explains sponsorship is not important and that he
supports the passage of the bills.

LOC. Testifies in favor of HB 3124, 3154, 3257. Adds
LOC is opposed to HB 3226 (EXHIBIT F).
Points out representatives from all over the state has brought forth concerns
on the issue. Asserts consolidation takes place when it makes sense to local
communities.

190

Daniel Coulombe

Hermiston, Umatilla County. Testifies in favor of HB
3124. Believes consolidation efforts are unnecessary as the current efforts
are successful. Adds consolidation will increase response time and increase
risk. Points out the chemical depot existing in Umatilla County to illustrate
the potential for tragedy if PSAP was not local.

295

Roger Bennett

City Manager, Florence. Believes the issue of
diversity needs to be considered when making decisions. Discusses economic
issues. Speaks on PSAPs and 9-1-1 consolidation in Lane County.

320

Cindy Rubert

City of Medford. Testifies in opposition of HB 3226
despite the consolidation of the PSAPs in the county. Points out there are
great reasons for consolidation and that it can make sense.

366

Chair Krummel

Points out the decision was made locally and that it
was not mandated by the state.

370

Rubert

Affirms.

375

Chair Krummel

Asks if the area between the cities belong to the
consolidated area.

380

Rubert

Explains they belong to Source.

TAPE 45, A

002

Chair Krummel

Remarks.

005

Mary Botkin

Association of Federal, State, County and Municipal
Employees (AFSCME), Local 79. Testifies on the bills. Comments on mandatory
consolidation. Believes common sense is a great part of the issue. States the
organization would be happy to work to bring their people into the process.

023

Gary Williams

Mayor, Cottage Grove. Testifies on the measures. Asserts
Cottage Grove does not support consolidation concepts. Presents the
resolution passed by his city (EXHIBIT
G).

040

Richard Meyers

City Manager, Cottage Grove. States the issue is not
one of funds, but of level of service. Presents the situation of the lakes in
the area. Notes the resolution.

068

Chair Krummel

Closes public hearings on HB 3124, 3154, and 3257. Opens
public hearing on HB 2913.

HB 2913
PUBLIC HEARING

075

Cathy Pollino

Secretary of State Audits Division. Provides audit
report on Oregon Emergency Management and area map (EXHIBITS H and I).

085

Phil Hopkins

Secretary of State Audits Division.

117

Rep. Mabrey

Asks about the audit review.

121

Hopkins

Explains the legislature has not required a follow up.

124

Chair Krummel

Notes the committee may have further issues, thanks
them for the input.

133

Judge Jeanne Burch

Wheeler County Judge. Voices concerns about HB 2913.
Speaks on PSAPs in rural counties. Notes that Sherman and Wheeler counties
would receive no funds.

150

Judge Mike McArthur

Sherman County Judge. Opposes 2913, and the redline
proposal to shift money among counties. Believes a thorough analysis of the counties
should be done.

187

Chair Krummel

Asks if in his estimation the legislature was ahead
of itself in the matter.

200

McArthur

Replies that it appears that way.

203

Paul Snyder

Association of Oregon Counties (AOC).

206

Chair Krummel

Asks Ms. Squires to testify and provide an update on
the directions he espoused the other day

218

Hasina Squires

Association of Public Safety Communications
Officers; National Emergency Number Association (APCO-NENA). Reiterates her
understanding of his requests. Believes the issue becomes one of audits.
Comments on the issues of ensuing 9-1-1- service throughout the state. Explains
APCO-NENA can not report on those issues. Supports work in the interim into
the matter. Comments on HB 2913 and the sunset clause.

256

Chair Krummel

Concurs with Judge McArthur. Believes look into
state policy and decisions needed.

273

Rep. Mabrey

Thanks Chair Krummel publicly for holding the
hearing longer to hear all testimony.