just wondering does anyone want to join me.me and dh have just had 2 failed iui with donor and are now moving on to first ivf with donor.i find rollercoaster great support and would be great to cycle with others.I dont really have a clue when it comes to the ivf and its all very daunting.

Luckyliv, I'm sure your sister was trying to spare your feelings by waiting to tell you about her pregnancy. It must be bittersweet for her knowing what you are going through at the moment.

I phoned the clinic and they checked witha doc who said I can stop if I want to, but no way! I'd have to be on death's door to give up after 2 days. Don't care if I'm sick for the next 10 days as long as there is no real danger. Have my scan on Friday morning, so I'll get checked then. Have to phone them back tomorrow to let then know how I get on this evening. Will eat earlier and inject later and hopefully will be fine.

Siobh I am sorry to hear you got bad news, I know sometimes it's hard to keep the chin up especially when nothing ever seems to go right. If we were to go by percentages no one should have kids, they say If you are over 30 you only have a 15-20 percent chance of getting pregnant each month if you have no fertility issues and yet all my friends got pregnant with no problems. There are people who get a 50 per cent chance and still get a bfn. I know a girl who only had a 5 per cent chance, the doctors told her they would write a case study on her if she managed to get pregnant and she has her little baby at home with her now after her first try. I know I am gone off on a long rant here but I honestly think that an awful lot of this is down to luck and god knows you are due a spell of good luck soon xxx

Pster you poor thing, getting the flu now on top of everything. At least the pain has gone so hopefully that won't come back any time soon x

Kitty I know this process is so hard on everyone's relationship, it's the constant pressure that is on all of us that's so hard to deal with. As the girls have said, all you can do is give ur dh some time and keep taking your royal jelly and coq10 so that you will be ready to go as soon as you can

Rocky best if luck tomorrow. The ec is nothing to worry about. I nearly made myself sick worrying the day before it and u can't remember anything about it. The sedation is brilliant, I wish I had done of it at the weekend ha ha

Wishful welcome to the thread. I felt sick and suffered headaches from the stimms but I never actually got sick so maybe you should check with ur clinic this morning.

Afm I rang the clinic and they wanted me to come up for a scan but i can't take time off work. I am going to go to my gp and ask them to check for a kidney infection, if it's not one I will try and get up to the clinic on Saturday for a scan

Siobh-I totally understand your concerns for DE.i guess I always have in back of my mind too that my dh won't bond with baby but I think all that would disappear if we got BFP.it is possible that you are over thinking it but nobody can tell you how to feel about it.every ones thoughts on things are individual and while some people can accept using donor no probs it's just not that simple for everyone.we plan on telling any child we are lucky to have they were conceived through donor and also our dd when they are appropriate age and tbh im so sick of whole taboo that surrounds IVF and donors that if anyone can't accept it or has a bad opinion on it they aren't worth having in our life.I think if your set on doing another cycle with OE then that's your decision and don't let clinic or anyone try talk you into anything your not happy with.your on the royal jelly and coq10 and keep taking a high protein diet.my acupuncturist recommended taking hemp every day for protein,I just mix it in with yogurt and it's supposed to be excellent.Am quite nervous now but trying not to let my mind run away with itself cause don't want to let the negatives thoughts in.as far as I'm concerned we have good chance here and until someone's says there's no way for it to work I'm not giving up!I hope you feel better in yourself.can you arrange consult with clinic to discuss options? Xxx

Wishful-your very welcome to join us.im so very sorry you have to be here though.ive had headache for past 4 days and I think it was the stimms.it could be stress too.i was on gonal f when did iuis and gave me awful headaches too.plenty of fluids and lots of rest.i don't know about the nausea or vomiting so maybe it's best to ring clinic first thing in morning.better to be safe than sorry and check if it's ok.

Pster-I'm in at 10am Thursday so at least it's early and I won't have all day to be thinking about things.youll prob start getting some symptoms at about 7-8 weeks so it's normal not to feel anything yet but it's there and that's all you need to know x

Hi Rocky, found out by email when in work. Just 5 minutes before i had to see a client. Painful.

Re the donor egg, I know myself i would bond with the baby, but I would have some concerns around how to explain it to the child, and to dd, and I would want it out in the open from day one, so there's no 'sitting a child down' in a few years to tell the news,, but yet wouldn't want the world to know straight away either iykwim.. I could just imagine dd telling everyone that another lady helped mammy and daddy to have a baby! Also, having worked in adoption, I'd prefer to go with a known donor, so there would be an option of the child making contact in the future if needs be.. My GP thinks i might be overthinking it, because of the job i am in. I might well be.. For dh he just cannot go there at all, and thinks that if we can't have another child together, with our genes, then he doesn't want to have one. He worries about things like what drives people to be donors, how much full disclosure is there around psychiatric history etc. It just doesn't sit with him at all, so what can i do? Nothing really.

I know i've answered your question about our reservations but i also want to say that i can ABSOLUTELY see how people go for it,. i think myself I would, and i'd get past all the 'issues', but if it's not right for dh then it's not right for us. It's complicated isn't it.

Don't worry about ovulating early. I had the very same worry and the doc said it was practically impossible as the meds completely suppress the hormones, so that the ovitrelle will do the trick. Are you nervously excited at all? You must be thrilled to be off work for a while.

I hope you mind mind me crashing your party. I started my IVF yesterday. I'm with S$ims. I had my second shot of Gonal F 450 this evening. Last night I woke with a bad headache and nausea. I drank litres of water today which seemed to help.

rocky- ah no well then you definately wont. what time are you in on thursday? i used to do seven nights but they have changed it. yeah you defo couldnt do 7 nights at this time..tbh i have no symptoms so not booking scan for another 3 weeks..

Pster-thanks for that.was starting to get bit worried.im on orgalutron which is same really as ceteotide.i took last one thus morn but started then getting cm.i work 7 nights in row so I'm glad I've just taken it off now.ive holidays after too so I'm off for awhile now.at least you've only the two,hope you feel better soon,you need to look after yourself.when are you going for scan? X

Siobh-I'm really sorry you've gotten more bad news,you shouldn't have to get used to it.did you find out with phone call or email and could yoy ask them questions?do you mind me asking why your dh so opposed to DE?how do you feel about it?

Siobh...i am sorry to read this again...was this by consult or just emails? the reason i am saying that is it is conflicting so wondering would it be best to have consult with dr?

rocky- i got that too. were you taking cetrotide? if you were then no you wont ovulate so dont worry x. i do two nights every second week. took them off after ec but did them before the ec...they are tiring..i know i prob should have rang in sick today but didnt wanna let them down..you were dead right...its been a tough few days for you x

Kitty sorry to hear you are struggling. Not sure what to say about your dh, except to give him time. My dh is completely opposed to donor egg so we're just not going there. But since your dh already agreed that it was a possibility for you both maybe it's just cold feet and he needs a break from it all for a while. Take care of eachother. It's very easy to become disconnected, but it's so important to work on it.

Rocky delighted for you that you hvae more follicles. The very best of luck for thurs. Hopefully this time next week you'll have some embryos on board.n

Pster glad that pain didn't come back,. hope the flu goes quickly.

Afm, got more bad news today. Clinic are now saying that are chances of success are 30% for next icsi, if we get 2 embryos transferred in, just 15-20% with one. Embryologist had said 50%. Just getting so used to bad news now.

pster-thats great the pain is gone but sorry you now have the flu!!!how do you cope with the nights?did you work at all through your treatment?i do alot of nights too and find them very tough on my system.was supposed to be nights this week but have rang in sick.i felt quite bad about it yeaterday but clinic said have to look after my body this week and they are right,we might only get one shot at this!

I have quick question if anyone knows.im due to take trigger tonight at 11.30pm.ive started getting the stringy cervical mucus today though(sorry TMI).there isnt any chance i could ovulate before my collection?

Rocky- that is fantastic. I am delighted to read that this evening. Please god the other too will keep growing too. So delighted for you..and that you are in better form. Hope your shot went well tonight...Oh i am sooo excited for you now xxx

BeaneyOne- You have been through the mill you poor thing..is it a kidney infection?? as Rocky says you have your 4 snowbabies waiting for you. You deserve a change of luck so I am hoping whatever you have at the moment clears soon...

Kitty- I dont really know what to say. I do know with my dh it takes time for him to get his mind around anything new so maybe give him time again. As Rocky suggested maybe a councillor might help him. You had decided til after christmas so maybe sit and tell him that you will leave it til the new year, ye wont talk about it and in the new year come back to it with the help of someone else? You will have been on royal jelly and co enzyme three months at that stage and it will help your amh and your eggs...I hope none of that offends you xx

AFM- that pain, whatever it was hasnt come back..so didnt go to the scan as woke up dying with a flu. on nights tonight so am delighted..

Had scan this morning and we now have 5 follicles and a possibility of 2 more by ec.we were really happy with that after the initial dissappointment yesterday.we are definitely going for it.have my trigger tonight and in on Thursday.my lining was 8.3 today too so am feeling positive!

Beaneyone-thanks for the luck.im so much better from yesterday.im sorry to see your still not well.did you hear from clinic if it's a symptom of the ohss?plenty of fluids if it's kidney infection.maybe you might need antibiotic.thats brillant news you have 4 blasts.youll have them ready and waiting for you when your ready,at least that's some reassurance for you x

Kitty-sorry to hear things up in air at minute.its very hard for men to come to terms with using a donor.give him a chance to think about it.my dh finds it hard at times still that he can't have anymore biological children.i know you say you've been waiting so long and gone through so much already but you both have to be in right frame of mind too.have ye been to see a councillor? Would your dh agree to that?keep taking your coq10 and royal jelly in preparation and give him time to come around x

hope ye are keeping well. siobh15 me and my dh are the same, at least he's up for you going again so soon, my dh wants to wait till after xmas for two reason 1. we cant afford it and 2. now after 4 failed iui and 1 failed ivf he now doesnt think he wants donor sperm at all ( he cant have kids due a chrom prop) wants a few more months to get his head around it. What happens if he decides that he doesnt want to go ahead at all. i have been through shit over the past 9 mths plus trying to have sumthing he knew the day he meet me that i wanted more than anything. i am 32 yrs old and so confused we fight like cats and dogs. what do i do ?

sorry girls i prob sound selfish and childish, what do you do when your dh does a 360 and a low amh. and time is running out, i am taking royal jelly and coq 10. and going to start accunputure this week.

Rocky just a quick post to say good luck this morning, we are all thinking of you and hoping that it all works out for u x

Siobhan sorry to hear you are having a rough time. Please god the break away is exactly what you need. This process is so hard, physically, mentally, financially, it's a wonder any of us come through it alright at all. At least we all have each other when we need to vent x

Pster how are you today? Are you any better?

Joff77 I am glad you key ur hair down, you def needed it. It's no harm after all you have been through.

Princess, happy sonny and d4651 hope everything is ok with you all too

Afm I am still suffering the effects of ohss, I think I have a kidney infection now but I amNot sure as I never had one before. I am waiting on the clinic to ring me and tell me if it's another symptom of this or if it is a kidney infection. We got one more blastocyst so we have 4 in total now. I am delighted with this. I came back to work yesterday and I am finding it hard to get back in to the swing of things but I have no choice.

Here is hoping for some more good news on here, I think we could all do with a lift xxxx

Siobh-sorry things sh@t at moment for you.i totally understand the pressure on your relationship though.me and dh had blazing row last week just after 1st scan.it just puts so much stress on everything.at least november not too far away.thats good you have holiday to look forward to,it always helps to have something else to focus on.have you started the royal jelly and coq10?Don't know how I would've got through last 8 months without everyone here especially today when I needed advise.i really do hope it works for you next time,you've been through enough already.thank you so much for all the encouragement x

Taking a break Rocky, and going for icsi # 2 in November. Donor egg has been recommended to increase our chances, but it's just not for us... Tbh i'm feeling very shaky the last few days, had a bit of a meltdown with dh yesterday. We're both under tremendous stress with this, I'm really not sure how long we can keep going as our mental health, relationship and family life is starting to suffer a bit.

But sure what can we do? We will definitely do another cycle and then consider it after that. I just wish it was done. But i know i'll have more energy for it in a few weeks. We're off to the sun in two weeks so that will help. Sorry to be on a downer.

I'll be praying for you. This could well be your lucky time! I really hope so. xx

Thanks Siobh,I know how devastated you were and I really wanted it to work for you.im sure if you asked me same thing when you had to decide with 4 follicles I would've told you to go for it too.im going to concentrate on what I do have and not what I thought I should have and have no regrets.i hope you are doing ok?whats your plan from here? Xxx

Rocky i'm sorry to read that you have been so upset, but not at all surprised. You poor thing, it's so disappointing. I flew to Prague for treatment with only 4 follicles! Got 3 eggs, 2 of which fertilised and were transferred on day 3. I know it was a bfn, but it was so worth going ahead. I wouldn't dream of cancelling. You just have to go with it and hope for the best.

Thank you so much everyone for all you support and positive stories.i felt much better after my accupuncture and she also felt it would be good idea to go ahead with this cycle.had good chat with dh and we've decided we are going to go ahead with it.hopefully scan tomorrow will bring some more information.

Memba-thank u so much for that story,I really need to hear things like that right now.i also have a lot of faith in the accupuncture so I hope it stands to me.hope you are doing well x

Dougie-thank you,it means a lot to hear that.i have to just keep the positive vibes going.what is happening with you at the moment? X

Pster-your right it just takes one and I have 4 potential chances.your proof of that.think I was just so shocked when they told me earlier that I got so upset.i can't let it drag me down and I won't! X

Sorry I just want to gatecrash here as I have followed Rocky since her IUIs.

Rocky I know of quite a number of ladies who have had a "poor" response during IVF. They went on to have 1 or 2 eggs collected, eggs fertilised and went on to have embryo transfer and went on to get a BFP and have happy and healthy pregnancies :)

It really does only take one. Those eggies you have might be EXCELLENT quality and I'm serious this is not just 1 or 2 ladies I am talking about I have seen it happen quite a number of times.

Rocky- yeah our situations are very similar. I thought I had 11 follicles though and thought at worst I would have 8 so like you was very disappointed when I woke up and they said there was only 4. I just started crying my eyes out so I completely understand how you are feeling today. The upside is there is 4...my mantra over there became it only takes one.. Good luck with what you and dh decide later. Hope acupuncture went well xx

Jof77- you are dead right to let your hair done and enjoy yourself. Hopefully you will get your answers on the 17th of october...

BeaneyOne - how are you feeling? Hope you got more good news from the clinic..

HappySonny- how did you get on today?

gennet told me it couldnt be ohss and its just cramping but it wasnt. i have cramping the whole time which is fine but i could actually feel my ovaries..(sorry if that is tmi). Anyway rang femplus and they said to come over for scan..couldnt get out of work so going tomorrow at lunch.

Thanks for that girls,I really needed that reassurance from people who are going through same thing.i spoke to my mam about it too and she thinks we should go for it too.havent got chance to speak to dh yet,only through texts.i know there is people in worse situations than me and I still have 4 potential eggs but I'm just do shocked and upset by the results and just been crying all day.also my lining is only 5.8 but they said has good pattern and if I go ahead with ec my et would be Sunday so that gives me a week to bring up lining.

Pster-your BFp has really given me boost as sounds like we were in pretty much same position.hope you are feeling bit better?are you going to go to doctor tomorrow?ir maybe ring clinic? X

Jof-your right to let loose,you've had a tough week and we deny ourselves so much going through IVF. X

Beaneyone-I'm delighted you heard from clinic and things going well with your embies.when will you find out how many you have to freeze? X

I'm going for accupuncture now so I'll see what she thinks too about our situation.im in again in morning for scan and I have to have made decision by then.

Rocky - my advice is to go for EC - I had up to 20 follicles on scan - got 11 mature eggs from that, but only 3 fertilised and I put 2 back in. Your 4 could all fertilise and I agree with pster - it only takes one good fertilised egg to work. Cancelling it at this stage will wreck your head.

Pster - how are you feeling now? Did you ring the clinic? Did you make an appointment with your Dr. I have my fingers crossed that all will be ok for you. It seems unusual for the OHSS to reappear after a BFP. Let us know.

Beaney - I can't believe what you had to go through - you poor thing. I was rang at 08:30 in the morning when the clinic said they would ring - If I was kept waiting all day I would be raving mad. Am delighted that they managed to freeze the embryos for when you are ready for transfer. Wishing you lots & lots of luck.

Princess - glad you had a relaxing time on holiday. It is so worth it just to take time out. IVF is so stressful on us, I know you will get the sibling for your little boy. I just had a failed IVF too, so I'll be restarting hopefully in November so I'm about a month behind you. Hopefully we can keep going until then.

Hi Happysonney - Good luck starting the whole process. I was on Heparin as well as Menopur & FSH, so definately felt like a junkie. My bruising was deadly. The things we do to have a baba. Best of luck with your scan.

D4651 - how are you now? What stage are you at?

Finally I want to thank you all so much for your support during the IVF. I really appreciate it. My DH & I went to dinner saturday. I had all the bad food & alcohol I could take. I have been stuffing my face since unfortunately. I just need a few days to sort myself out. I will get back on track. We have an appointment for 17th October to see the Dr who did the EC & transfer for me to discuss the whole process & decide what to do.

Rocky I think I would def go for it. If ur cycle is cancelled u will have to start the whole cycle again with no guarantees and would u also loose a good chunk of your money as well???. U have 4 follicles so u still have a good chance. Pster is a prime example of this. I know it must be so tough to decide but I think at this stage I would go for it. X

Hi rocky...go for it...you have four follicles..you have been waiting for this for three months.. If it was me I would defo go for it. I'm just thinking that I only had four..I was devastated to but it only takes one egg..I know we say it but it is true.. I only had one in the end.. I would say go for it xxx

Hi girls,I really need some advise.had scan this morn and all I have is 4 follicles.i pretty devastated,the doctor said it was very poor response but those 4 could have very good quality eggs coz of my age.going for another scan tomorrow morning and have to decide then if going to go ahead with ec thurs or cancel this cycle altogether.he said if I cancel though I could get worse response next month.god my head all over place!my heart is saying to go for it???

beaneyone, just wanted to say i'm delighted things went well, looks like you'll have at least one round of FET lined up, maybe even more! Terrible about the clinic, a little admin error can be devastating for someone like you in limbo. Try to continue to get out and about, it definitely lifts the spirits!

Oh pster I hope it's not ohss again. Plenty of fluids all the way. This might be stupid but could it be your body stretching to allow for the pregnancy? Don't panic yet, it could be something simple hopefully. Let us know how ur feeling later xxx

BeaneyOne..I am delighted to hear u had good news last night.. Its great news..hope u get more of it this morning..

Rocky..best of luck today too. I'm sure they will all be great.

Happysonny..good luck with your scans today too..

Afm..woke up at 1 in the morning.. Had the pains in my ovaries like I did the day of ec..drank a pint of water and fell back asleep sitting up with a pile of pillows behind me. Dunno if its ohss back or what. Had to be in work today but feel fine now.. Will try go to doc tomorrow..

Hey guys thanks so much for all your kind words earlier. I went up and met a friend who convinced me to ring the clinic and leave a message. I did that and went and had a look in the shops and it's amazing the difference it makes to get out of d house. It's mad, I was so caught up in this ivf that I was nearly amazed to see people out and about doing everyday things. It was exactly what I needed and here is the good bit, the clinic rang when I was in town, the embriologist apologised and said I must have fallen through the craics because my transfer was cancelled. We have 3 frozen blasts and there are 5 more still developing. He doesnt think two of that 5 will be there tomorrow but he is hoping we might have one more. I am so happy, he was really nice on the phone and it's such a relief to know we have frozen embies whenever I get better. Thanks do much for all the support today xxx

Rocky I will say a little prayer for you that your follies are looking good tomorrow. It's so hard not to worry I know but please god they will have slowed down enough for u xx

Happysonny you are flying with your injections, best of luck on Wednesday with your scan x

Sorry i haven't been near a computer since Friday. Playing catching up now!

Jof-im I am so sorry about your bfn. Life is so cruel

Princess: hope you had a nice relaxing time in holidays. Glad you didn't do to much thinking and just enjoyed it.

Beaneyone. As i am new to this, i am not sure of the procedure. But i think it is awful that they didn't ring you back. Hopefully it means good news!!!

As for me I had my scan on Friday and started injections friday evening. Back to clinic on wednesday. I am injecting Gonal and menopur and started cetrocide this evening too. I feel like a junkie!! Again not sure what I am supposed to expect from next scan. But hopefully it will be good?

Hi Rocky...easier said then done i know but try and stay positive.. You have a good few follicles and I am sure they will all be coming along even better tomorrow...i will be thinking of you in the morning xx

Beaneyone-I can't believe they never rang you,that's so bad.its not even that we pay so much for their service but that they know this is such an emotional time.they are your little embies and you had right to know what's happening with them. I'm sure they are being well looked after but that's not the point.hope you are ok and get onto them first thing in morn x

Afm-have another scan in morn,I hope my follicles have calmed abit.i can't bare the thought of anything going wrong,we are putting all our eggs in one basket here and are totally skint now!

Thanks a mill Pster and d4651, I would really be lost without you girlies on here. It's good to know that they did the same with you d, if only they hadn't said anything about ringing me yesterday I would have been fine. I need to get out of the house I think and keep myself busy. I haven't let the phone out if my sight since yesterday so that's not good either, I normally can never find it so it's really not like me to be phone watching. Thanks so much again guys, I will let u know if I hear anything xxxxxxx

BeaneyOne- no it certainly doesnt help that your dh is away..i feel so sorry for you. They are looking after your little ones so dont be thinking that. It is awful what they have done in the past few hours and tomorrow you can have words, at the very least, but you just need to try get through today. I fully believe you have little frozen snow babies waiting for you...xxx

I am on the phone for the day so if you need anyone..to rant or whatever xxx

Beaneyone.....just to let you know my EC was also on a wed. I think they rang the following day to say 11 fertilised. I didn't know I could ring and check how they are doing. So I actually didn't ring them until the Monday and found out I had 5 for freezing, and in the tuesday I had another 2 for freezing. (I'm also with s!ms)D xx

Pster, I am with si?s and they are not opened today. I have no way of getting in contact with them. I have had no update from them since Wednesday and I am worried that no one is looking after them (if they are any to look after). They are meant to be frozen today if any survived so it looks like I an in limbo until tomorrow. Really really upset today over it, doesn't help that my dh is away since Friday & I didn't sleep last night over this. It's really really bad form from the clinic

Sorry i have been off for a few days..back at work with a bang and then went to robbie last night. Just in from work now..

BeaneyOne- I am raging for you...that is unbelieveable. Who are you with??? I mean I actually think its bad that they didnt contact you for a few days but then to say they will contact you and they dont. Sorry my rant is harly helping you but i am actually peed off for you. Are they open tomorrow?? I hope they are and you can ring them. Its really not good enough with the amount of money we pay..i know you arent ok but I am sure they have made it xx

Joff...I am so sorry to hear your news. I know too that there isnt anything i can say to you other than i am thinking of you. I hope you and dh are minding each other...

Rocky- I was tge same..except one of mine flew ahead..your clinic are changing the meds so I am sure that will help to even them out..and its great that you have a good few follies..

Princess - I am delighted you had a lovely time..nice to take a break from everything. I am sorry that its going to take you so long to start again..its not possible to start a month earlier? obviously not or you would. I hope you are ok...it good to have you back tho x

D4651 - I am sorry to that you have had such a hard time. I hope you are coming through the other side..

Joff I am so sorry, wish there was something I could say to help you. We are here if u need us xxx

Rocky I am not sure about the water thing, hopefully now that they have reduced your med's your follicles might slow down a bit. It's good that u are responding well. Hopefully things will have evened out when u are up again.

Princess welcome ack, I am glad u had a nice time, u deserved it x

Afm, I don't know if I am coming or going. I was up today and there is still fluid around my ovaries but thy don't think it needs to be drained again thank god. I am upset though. The clinic promised they would ring me today and let me know if I had any embryos to freeze, I waited and waited all day and thy never rang, the nurse promised they would ring before 4 & 7 but I have heard nothing. After the week I have had I needed to know if any of our embies made it. Can't believe they never rang.

Jof-im so sorry it was bfn.i can only imagine how devastated you are.we are all here if you need to get it off your chest.hope you and dh are looking after eachother.i hope they can give you some answers at your review next month.theres nothing i can say only that im thinking of you x

AFM-went for scan this morning and went ok-ish.i had a good few follicles but 4 of them were quiet big already and im only at cd6.one was 15 and one was 13.they have reduced my puregon and ive another scan monday.theres a chance ill lose the eggs from those big follicles,i hope not.i wonder if i reduce the amount of water i was drinking would that slow things down abit?

Just a post to let you know that the IVF failed for me. I got a brown discharge thursday which progressed to cramping & bleeding, despite being on cyclogest. I did the pg test which of course was a big BFN. Feeling crap, but resigned to it. I rang the clinic who gave me an appointment for a month's time with the Doctor who did the EC & transfer. They reccommended ICSI next time.

I wish you all luck. I will log back in to check on you all & do personals when I feel a bit better,

sorry havent been on properly,had such a manic week at work.injections are going grand,though in work on wed it was so busy i couldnt even take a break so had to sneak to toilet to them!felt like junkie drawing tham up on my knees in toilet!have scan tomorrow so hope theres something happening in there!

princess-welcome back.glad to see your enjoyed your hol.i have to say if it was me i dont think i could go through this over christmas.its just an ackward time of year for getting appointments and getting around.and what if you ec or et are due on christmas day.im not trying to influence you at all,thats just what id be thinking.i can imagine its upsetting seeing your sister have baby but as you said she went through tough time to get there too and it just shows it will work.hang in there,it will be your time soon x

D4651-sorry to hear you got ohss.im sure its so devastating to get as far as ec and be all geared up and then you have to wait again.fingers crossed you get af soon and can get going with your transfer x

jof-im so so sorry to see your bfn.did you try testing again?its understandable to feel sorry for your self,youve had tough time.let us know how you are x

Happysonny-welcome to thread.how did your scan go today?

beaneyone-9 fertilised is great!i hope they are hanging in there.hope tomorrow goes well and you get some good news x

juniorg-how did phone consult go today?did you find out when you can start? x

hi all, i'm back after my hols, It was 2 weeks but felt like 3 months! So many new names here I wont keep up. I read back a week or so, I've probably missed out on loads of posts so forgive me if I'm not up to date. for those that dont know me I had my first failed IVF (2 IUIs failed already) so went off on a holiday that we cant really afford as a consolation.

Siobh, Kitty & Joff - I am so so sorry to hear your news. I know how devastating it is. D4651, sorry to hear about your cancellation, incredibly frustrating for you. And pster - fantastic news for you!

As for me, the holiday did me the world of good, we travelled around a bit so never got to dwell on things too much. I feel like I finally spent positive time with DH and we hardly talked about our problems at all, in a good way I mean. Also my almost 5 year old boy is at a great age now as he can go off playing while we sit and chat while keeping an eye on him rather that hovering over him and taking turns. It did cross my mind almost every day that this is a life I could have if I dont have another, more money and holidays and quality time etc. I keep asking myself "cant I just be happy with this" and if I have to accept it in time i'm sure I could be I'm not there yet and I still want another so much.

I was told after failed cycle to take 2 months off, at first I presumed this included pill month but no its 2 plus pill month so basically 3 months off before long protocol again. Looking roughly at dates and cycle timing etc my next date presuming all goes well would put me on a 2ww right up to christmas, testing sometime between 18th and 26th Dec. So Christmas is going to be a f**ing nightmare, not just the nerves but not being able to enjoy a night out etc. I considered pushing back another month but I'll still be on downreg for Christmas and still stressed out, also at least 2ww I dont need to contact clinic or worry about needing them during holidays. Anyone else going again around that time? I'm dreading it so much i feel ill but eager to get going at the same time. I feel like I'm wasting my life waiting. They say 2nd time is much more successful so I'm bearing that in mind too.

My sis had a little girl this week, it was a bit upsetting but I'm delighted for her as she went through 3 rounds to get there and it makes you think it will be all worth it eventually if you could just fast forward. hope everyone doing ok, this is a very difficult sometimes lonely road to be on.

D4651 I am glad you posted last night, it looks like we are in the exact same boat. Its great to hear u came out the otherside and are ready to start to again. Feel free to log on anytime we are all here to support u when ur feeling down. I was up today and got my ovaries drained, just home, feeling so worn out after the last few days. We won't be starting again any time soon, my ovaries were so swollen they were touching off each other. I am back up Saturday to see if I am retaining more fluid, might need them drained again.

Coppers, b4bee, kitty and Siobhan hope u are all doing ok

Joff77 I was so sad to read ur post, I don't know if u have tested too early I am afraid I can't advise you on that, I hope ur ok, know there are no words of comfort I can give u.

Juniorg best of luck with ur consult tomorrow, hope it all goes ok for u x

Rocky how are you getting in, how u feeling on the injections?

Pster thanks so much for the lovely post last night, I had a little teary moment when I read it, just have to stay positive I know x

Happysonny best of luck with ur scan tomorrow, don't worry about the whole process I am sure u will fly it, the thoughts of it can sometimes be worse than doing it x