Now days it doesn't matter because when you buy var you really don't know what you are getting. I used 30mg of Oxandrin when it was on the market and it tunes me up better than 70-80 of other brands available. Geneza is good, but I still need about 60mg minimum to get the same effect.

Unless you're new, you should be made aware that winstrol is hard on joints and do some searching and you'll see I'm not the only one hating on it for causing injury. It took me months and months to 90% heal, and i felt like trying winstrol made me look dense, cut, etc... and very strong and i reopened the injury and have been rehabbing since again. Only benefit to it is low dose it boosts my libido with test.

Unless you're new, you should be made aware that winstrol is hard on joints and do some searching and you'll see I'm not the only one hating on it for causing injury. It took me months and months to 90% heal, and i felt like trying winstrol made me look dense, cut, etc... and very strong and i reopened the injury and have been rehabbing since again. Only benefit to it is low dose it boosts my libido with test.

what if you use a watery compound with it like test, dbol, etc? or a supposed joint healing drug like npp or gh? will that help keep the joints lubricated and prevent injuries while still getting leaner?

i only ask because i can get winstrol for crazy cheap and was curious about it, but i absolutely do not want to put my joints and tendons at risk.

anavar is better in every way from what i heard, besides price. unfortunately, the price difference is quite vast

what if you use a watery compound with it like test, dbol, etc? or a supposed joint healing drug like npp or gh? will that help keep the joints lubricated and prevent injuries while still getting leaner?

i only ask because i can get winstrol for crazy cheap and was curious about it, but i absolutely do not want to put my joints and tendons at risk.

My test and deca right now makes my joints feel like I'm 16 again. Absolutely awesome. Excited to try some growth and see what that does for em.

anavar is better in every way from what i heard, besides price. unfortunately, the price difference is quite vast

what if you use a watery compound with it like test, dbol, etc? or a supposed joint healing drug like npp or gh? will that help keep the joints lubricated and prevent injuries while still getting leaner?

i only ask because i can get winstrol for crazy cheap and was curious about it, but i absolutely do not want to put my joints and tendons at risk.

Ya but that kind of defeats the purpose. Winny does not make you look shredded because it makes you burn fat, it makes you look shredded because it dries you up. Anavar all the way

Winstrol (40mg ed for 7 weeks) - strength about the same as anavar, but accompanied by unbearable joint pain. Don't train heavy on it.

Anavar (20mg ed for 7 weeks) - A better option in every respect. Used 20mg ed for 7 weeks - had just as many visible changes as winstrol without the pain. What was unbearable - was the lower back muscle pumps. As a result of the pumps, had to stop certain exercises numerous times.

anavar is better in every way from what i heard, besides price. unfortunately, the price difference is quite vast

what if you use a watery compound with it like test, dbol, etc? or a supposed joint healing drug like npp or gh? will that help keep the joints lubricated and prevent injuries while still getting leaner?

i only ask because i can get winstrol for crazy cheap and was curious about it, but i absolutely do not want to put my joints and tendons at risk.

Never had an issue with winstrol and joints like everyone says about it. Perhaps because I have always run it EQ and it's cancelled out the dry joints thing? Just my own experience. Very cheap too and 50mgs goes a long way I thought. Var is sopposed to be awesome but I have never tried it and would love to but I just cant justify the price. My buddy just ran 60-80 a day and was absolutely raving about it

Never had an issue with winstrol and joints like everyone says about it. Perhaps because I have always run it EQ and it's cancelled out the dry joints thing? Just my own experience. Very cheap too and 50mgs goes a long way I thought. Var is sopposed to be awesome but I have never tried it and would love to but I just cant justify the price. My buddy just ran 60-80 a day and was absolutely raving about it

Var is a wonderful compound in high doses. I think the strength gains are worth the price. For some reason i get strong as an ox on Var. 60mg is the lowest i run these days. Drol is the only compound that beats Var in strength gains for me and Var doesn't add all the water retention that Drol does.

Var is a wonderful compound in high doses. I think the strength gains are worth the price. For some reason i get strong as an ox on Var. 60mg is the lowest i run these days. Drol is the only compound that beats Var in strength gains for me and Var doesn't add all the water retention that Drol does.

I don't even use Dbol anymore, it's Drol or Var.

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I did 20mg at the end of a 17wk testoviron cycle for 7wks , and broke all previous PR's with ease -- without ballooning up like a blowfish on dbol.

I used 50mg british Dragon winstrol tablets and 50mg liqiuid anavar from top UGL and I had some anavar tabs from a top UGl that were made with 98% raw oxandrolone powder. I also used 150mg Test suspension 5 days a week and I get some of the most painfull nasty pumps I have ever experienced. I felt like alot stronger but when I would lift the weight I felt like I could continue lifting but the muscle group I was training got so engorged with blood I almost thought I was going to tear something. Seems odd since I was only using 50mg of winstrol.

Months later I tried running the anavar without any other orals just Testorapid and I felt very strong. what was odd was it was even just IP anavar but it worked better then the anadrol I had used 6 months before it was dosed 5mg higher at 15mg instead of 10mg and I was very happy with it to be honest. The pumps I got were not unbearable. That batch of IP anavar was actually very legit and I am very hesitant using IP products.That was back in 06 so maybe IP still had a few good prices out there. They def had a prettyy decent size