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In fact, fuck it, I'll take the bait because I've some spare time right now.

Britfag ex-army, hit rank of Corporal and thoroughly enjoyed my time.

I joined the army for a good career, stability and a challenge.

Did not and still don't give a fuck about the politics of it.

Deployed Iraq and Afghan, best times of my life.

Why? Because I made a difference to peoples lives.

Example:

We patrolled into a village in Helmand in Afghan. Village was under insurgent rule but they'd gone to ground in the populace. That day, we get a few contacts. I go into a compound belonging to a family with my oppo. Get up on roof with GPMG, start putting rounds down.

The old man in the compound caught all my spent brass to go and sell, no problems with that.

Firefight concludes after an hour or so, we bug out. During that time, with the terp I'd got to know the old man. 93 years old, fought against the Soviets as a young man. Brilliant.

We withdraw as I mentioned. Return next day. Same routine, contact again, so I go back into the same compound.

Old guy there, battered black and blue.

Get terp over. The old guy had walked out his compound and saw two insurgents (Pakistani fighters) digging in an IED. They came over and kicked the shit out of him.

So we engage, kill a few, the old guy is in his yard clapping and dancing around, loving it.

Firefight concludes, we withdraw.

Return next day, no more contacts. Old man comes running out with family, shakes our hands, terp tells us he went to wash in the stream and found the two fighters dead after our contact.

Village was cleared, lives changed for the better. The insurgents had been draining the place of food and resources whilst they were there, effectively reigning fear over them.

>>574439382Soldiers volunteer, their voluntary service negates spineless twats like you from being drafted. Say what you will, being a volunteer during a time of war takes guts. You are too busy scrambling to excuse your cowardice. That is a sacrifice. Respect it or don't, you are free to.

>>574441056i didnt say that it was an instant, i said that it's the solutionmaybe our dream world without wars and corruption will exist in a couple of hundred/thousand years. that doesn't mean it's not worth fighting for it right now

Ok, we're in agreement here, because I do believe that with the right global approach, we could educate and remove the reign of terror some people hold over their people.

Do you accept though, that before we can reach that period of enlightenment, that we will have to, as you say, fight for it? That there will be wars to achieve peace?

I know that not all wars are just and right, and there are lots of agendas, but even if we fought only those that sought to persecute and oppress others, we still need to fight them before we can educate them.

>>574441548i understand that 'murica has skewed the political terms a bit, but leftists (lets just round it up to communists) are the ones that are for putting everyone in the same line, everyone should do the exact same thing and learn the exact same stuff

i do realise that "education" was a bit fuzzy, maybe "education, science and research" is more explaining of what i meant.

>>574442061Yeah, because cops are awesome! Last I checked there are no suicide bomber jobs listed in the Army...Aaaaand the only people in country that actively stop suicide bombers are soldiers.....sooooo whatsup nigga?>>574442061

>>574441827No that's what a leftist is when you put in the most pessimistic terms to help make yourself feel like you aren't one. Leftists are the ones who believe that everyone must be educated. They are the Utopians, they believe that we can some how reach a dream world without war and evil (sound familiar?) To contrast, a rightist is someone who believes they should live their life without interference from government or state powers, and consequentially, they do not care whether or not people are educated.

>>574442170Maybe I know this feel. Maybe I don't. It's still irrelevant for the discussion because, even if I do, you can be quite sure the person wasn't ooga-boogaing in a war.

>>574442296Then you're living in a corrupt shithole where this kind of shit is allowed. And if even cops are like that where you live, I just imagine the soldiers... are they normal, cattle-like or are them cockroach-like [kill one and 20 pops up]

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