Attacking the man for the way he looks, is one of the least convincing ways of undermining his "testimony"

Quoting: Geologic

Huh!

Get a grip dude... I never said anything about the way he looks.You barkin up the wrong tree, skippy!

Now on the other hand... YOU being such a big Drake fan that you're lashing out at innocent bystanders makes me start to wonder if maybe he really is just over-hyped and full of crap like others have been saying all along...

The greatest gift you can give anyone is the example of your own life working. -Orin

There aren't any habitable planets in the Pleiades (Seven Sisters) star cluster.Most of the stars in that system have only gone through their life cycle long enough to form an accretion disk of dust around themselves.....which, may in another few hundred million years possibly form into a planet....then it has to be habitable.There is one system with proto-planets (asteroid sized) there in the Pleiades, but those bits of rock are a long way from forming into a life bearing planetoid!They are all pretty young stars really, compared to ours - Sol, which is quite an old star.

So drake's supposition that Pleiadeian's exist....well, whole idea seems a bit raggy to me really.If he's basing it on channeled info....that comes from familiar spirits, that are FAMILIAR with the lives of the people (poor suckers) they are giving info to....that kind of data is consistently unreliable.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3579277

The Pleaidians are 4th dimensional humans, meaning unlike us 3rd dimensional humans whose souls occupy a physical body, they ocuupy a crystalline molecular body or exist in pure soul form, so they are not affected by their environment as much as we do.

(I don't believe "channeled info", but this message, and its tone, was relevant to here):

All Living Beings Comprising THE CRIMINAL CABALJune 20, 2012 ORDER AND DECREE By Sentient Decree and under the divine order of law, We the living people, beneficiaries of EARTH hereby ORDER the immediate arrest of all those who have caused destruction on and to this planet EARTH and to billions of it's beings. . . .As common GRANTORs of the EARTH TRUST we hereby ORDER that immediate arrest warrants be issued for All Living Beings Comprising THE CRIMINAL CABAL and that these warrants be served and executed AT ONCE by the responsible fiduciary-trustees and co-trustees to bring an end to the controlling commercial tyranny perpetrated wrongfully and by deceit under the threat of deadly force against the sentient beings of EARTH!

We the people ARE THE INHERITORS OF EARTH and today June 20, 2012 we stand together and present this universal claim of right to the EARTH and our lives and future forevermore! Take heed that the harmful corporate 3D Matrix stops today!

On this glorious day it has been decided that the destruction of EARTH and its people is the highest priority in this galaxy and in the universe and today the harm stops! We have all come here to this planet together and by loving intention to ensure this!NOTICE: Any attempt to stop this lawful action will be dealt with accordingly and swiftly on all levels by beings of supreme technology and power and measured out under the order of divine justice![/b]

ET Disclosure in A Battle for Planet Earth: Whose agenda does that suit?The Dark Cabal wants you to FEAR ET's and help FIGHT them===

ET's are a threat to the Cabal, so they want you to battle them and help preserve their elite power.

The Cabal prefers to Disclose the ET presence in a Battle-for-Earth crisis

I think I can see where, in a worst case scenario, we may be headed in the Disclosure drama.

The ET's will arrive, and TPTB will want to fight them and their influence,(Because the elites know, a key part of the "alien agenda" may be to free the people from the Cabal.)So the Cabal shall then unleash their long-planned: "Alien false-flag invasion," complete with cabal controlled UFO flights, and maybe some high-profile destruction. This action which will be designed to pump up fear, and convince people to fall in line behind a Cabal-controlled military crackdown. They will try to manipulate people into thinking that we are involved in an all-out Battle to Save Earth. Instead, the real motive may be to create a distraction, and war psychology so that the elites will use the fear in an attempt to retain and expand their own power on this planet.

If the Cabal is successful, most humans will be fighting shoulder-to-shoulder with the military, with the Cabal controlling the battle plans. Friendly or benevolent ETs will quickly identified as hostiles, and will never be given a chance to get their peaceful message across to the masses.

Just look at the Media, and many Scifi films over the last decade or two: V, Falling Skies, the Invasion of LA, Independence Day... and so on, and so on. The masses are being programmed to fear ETs and to see them as the enemy.

I reckon that the elites have used Remoting Viewing and other psychic tools to view their own future. And they have seen that their power is likely to disappear soon after the ETs arrive. But this elite plan is unlikely to succeed. Already, there is much evidence that the ETs are already working behind the scenes to remove them from power.

The planned false flag operation may involve attacks by Cabal-controlled UFO's on Earth targets, to make the real UFOs (controlled by benevolent ETs) look as if they are hostile. The genuine ETs will then have their hands full fighting Cabal-controlled UFOs, and will find themselves not greeted with the warmth by Earth's citizens, as they might have otherwise expected.

Those in-the-know about the long history of ET contacts and the real history of humans on thos planet will realise it is Cabal-controlled violence. But many others, who are less informed and living in fear may think that genuine ET's are hostile, and they will be motivated by fear, and distracted by the Cabal's military exercises.

I reckon this Battle-for-Planet-Earth scenario is one that ET's are eager to prevent. Perhaps this is why the ETs and EDs want to see the Cabal taken down before showing themselves.

Key Questions:Are we running out of time to get the Cabal to surrender first, so we can have a gentle and peaceful disclosure, after the elites step aside? Will the ETs now have to show themselves, and dosplay their power, in order to force the Cabal out-of-power. If they do forcefully dispose of the elites, will they raise the risk of a violent Battle-for-Earth scenario?

We may know the answer to these important questions in the days and weeks to come.

(I don't believe "channeled info", but this message, and its tone, was relevant to here):

All Living Beings Comprising THE CRIMINAL CABALJune 20, 2012 ORDER AND DECREE By Sentient Decree and under the divine order of law, We the living people, beneficiaries of EARTH hereby ORDER the immediate arrest of all those who have caused destruction on and to this planet EARTH and to billions of it's beings. . . .As common GRANTORs of the EARTH TRUST we hereby ORDER that immediate arrest warrants be issued for All Living Beings Comprising THE CRIMINAL CABAL and that these warrants be served and executed AT ONCE by the responsible fiduciary-trustees and co-trustees to bring an end to the controlling commercial tyranny perpetrated wrongfully and by deceit under the threat of deadly force against the sentient beings of EARTH!

We the people ARE THE INHERITORS OF EARTH and today June 20, 2012 we stand together and present this universal claim of right to the EARTH and our lives and future forevermore! Take heed that the harmful corporate 3D Matrix stops today!

On this glorious day it has been decided that the destruction of EARTH and its people is the highest priority in this galaxy and in the universe and today the harm stops! We have all come here to this planet together and by loving intention to ensure this!NOTICE: Any attempt to stop this lawful action will be dealt with accordingly and swiftly on all levels by beings of supreme technology and power and measured out under the order of divine justice![/b]

Pentagon and military insider Drake has released his latest update of the goings-on behind the scenes in regards to the mass arrests of many members of the criminal organization referred to as the cabal. Drake’s presentation was approximately 3 hours in length and as such, I will take this opportunity to very briefly summarize some of the points that I feel you may find of interest.

Drake stated that the extraterrestrial presence is indeed real and they are indeed here in our world at this time and are taking an active role in the arrests of the members of the criminal cabal. One of the more interesting statements by Drake was that the extraterrestrials have issued a deadline for the arrests of the members of the criminal cabal and that deadline is June 21, 2012. Beyond that date, Drake claims the extraterrestrials have stated that they will begin to make these arrests themselves.

Drake further states that one of the plans of the extraterrestrials is to use their technologies to identify negative beings within the human population and take them into custody, separating them into two groups; one group that can be rehabilitated and one group that cannot be successfully rehabilitated. Drake asserts that the extraterrestrials stated that they will take the negative beings who cannot be rehabilitated and deposit them into the central sun of this universe, effectively recycling their energy and returning it back to Creator. (This procedure has been described by Neil Donald Walsh in his 'Conversations with God' book series. )

Drake went on to say that the extraterrestrials have stated to the Earth allies (members of the Pentagon, CIA, Militaries & militias in favor of our new system) that time is running very short and much work is needed to be accomplished to allow the extraterrestrials to assist us in many projects that will allow for as smooth a transition as is possible for our planet and humanity, corroborating many recent Galactic Federation of Light communications. Drake also continued to state that the extraterrestrials stated to the Earth allies that the latter part of our year of 2012 will issue humanity challenges in the form of earthquakes and rising sea levels throughout several parts of the world, further corroborating Galactic Federation of Light as well as Ashtar Command communications shared in many messages over the past few months. Drake also states that the extraterrestrials stated that the obstacle of the cabal needs to be removed to allow the galactic commands to assist humanity through this transitional period ahead.

Drake wished to explain that the extraterrestrials that are here are performing what he refers to as ‘charity work’, and they should be recognized and appreciated for what they are doing.

Drake states that the extraterrestrials asked the Earth allies to share a video, and if you have not viewed this short 5 minute message I will include it here:

Drake went on to state that cabal faction chiefs Rockefeller and Rothschild wish to now surrender as they see no other alternative.

Drake mentioned the prosperity funds and says they have now been opened and that the collateral accounts have also been freed through the work of Neil Keenan and many others. Drake went on to say that he believes a number of prosperity packages have been sent out to those in need and who are participants in some sort of deal or agreement.

Drake stated that as a condition of unconditional surrender, the cabal corporation Monsanto and each and every product of their manufacture would be eliminated and removed from our society and not be allowed to ever be a part of our society in the future.

Drake discussed the lien placed against the Bank of international Settlements, as well as a cease-and-desist order for 90 days against the institution which could have important ramifications for the collapse of the old system and the launch of the new financial system.

Drake advises the citizens of the United States and the world to be vigilant for cabal sabotage against targets such as utilities and other systems in our country, as there may be members of the cabal who do not wish to go out without causing some problems.

Drake described a 'technology' that may be employed to eradicate many different types of pollutants which involves the releasing of microbes that eat and effectively transmute and purify many toxins. It was not made clear where Drake believes this 'technology' originates.

There was certainly more to Drake's three-hour presentation, though I believe the summary shared here offers fair insight into Drake’s latest update.

In the recent CNBC documentary, "The Rockefellers," one segment really caught my attention.

The film reviewed the life of Nelson Rockefeller, who served as vice president to Gerald Ford and was New York's governor for many terms. It recounted his 1964 run against Barry Goldwater for the GOP presidential nomination.

It was a hard-fought campaign between two diametrically opposed party factions. Rockefeller lost, in part because he had recently divorced his wife. He also lost because Goldwater and the party's arch-conservatives crushed the party's then-existing liberal wing.

Though defeated, Rockefeller was given five minutes to speak at the Republican National Convention at San Francisco's Cow Palace.

When he stood to speak, boos and heckles rained down on him loudly. But in those few difficult minutes, Rockefeller boldly spoke against the reactionary politics that propelled Goldwater to the nomination, policies supported by radical right-wing groups such as the John Birch Society.

"During this year, I have criss-crossed this nation fighting to keep the Republican party the party of all the people and warning of the extremist threat. It's a danger to the party and it's danger to the nation.

"Some of you don't like to hear it, ladies and gentlemen, but it's the truth. These extremists feed on fear, hate and terror ... There is no place in this Republican Party ... for such hawkers of hate, such purveyors of prejudice, such fabricators of fear. Whether Communist, Ku Klux Klan or Birchers. There is no place in this Republican Party for those who would infiltrate its ranks, distort its aims and convert it into a cloak of apparent respectability for a dangerous extremism."

That 1964 campaign &#150; and that speech, in particular &#150; marked the beginning of the end of the GOP liberalism that Rockefeller epitomized, a Republican Party that tolerated people with different bents on some issues and ideologies.

On Monday, former Gov. Jeb Bush similarly lamented the brand of intolerance found in the GOP of today. His father, President George H.W. Bush, would have trouble thriving into today's party, the governor said. So would President Ronald Reagan.

"Reagan would have, based on his record of finding accommodation, finding some degree of common ground, as would my dad &#151; they would have a hard time if you define the Republican Party ... as having an orthodoxy that doesn't allow for disagreement, doesn't allow for finding some common ground."

Bush spoke against the dominance of Grover Norquist's anti-tax pledge that so many politicians have mindlessly signed.

// QUOTE // [link to johnkettler.com] ... I&#146;m not saying HE is the problem, but some of his sources are. He is hinging these &#147;mass arrest&#148; and operation &#147;StarDust&#148; on channelings from a Artificial / Machine Intelligence Source and calling that Pleiadians that is a serious problem... . . .Too many people are getting emotionally invested in this whole Drake, Cobra and Co. Dog and Pony show and its not healthy for anyone. People need to seriously sit back and observe what is going on and not get emotionally invested in this situation// UNQUOTE //

I suggest: Avoid the emotional stress that would go with being a true-Believer.

Treat it as a drama you are watching. Watch ... and Wait for solid evidence before making the big emotional investment.

As was posted above:Often, It seems to be something that is happening on a parallel Earth, rather than the one we live on.

excerpt from David dIcke's newsletter, full article will be released on Sunday:

A friend forwarded me an email this week and asked what I thought of the contents. I shook my head as I scanned the page because I had seen it all before many times.

It was summarising, and providing links to, the claims of a 'whistleblower' who calls himself 'Drake', which is a form of duck. There was also a game in Olde England called 'ducks and drakes' dating from the 16th century in which flat stones were thrown across the water in a way that made them bounce before sinking. It is known today as 'skimming'. Or is it 'scamming'?

The term 'playing ducks and drakes' became a metaphor to describe behaviour that was irresponsible, reckless, and involved 'squandering wealth or throwing away something of value'. There are other common phrases inspired by ducks, including sitting duck and lame duck. I also see that the word 'duck' derives from the Old English d&#363;ce , or 'diver', a derivative of the verb d&#363;can, which means 'to duck, bend down low as if to get under something, or dive.'

Put the two together and you get the phrase to 'duck and dive'. It all seems rather appropriate to me when I read the claims and assertions of 'Drake' and his predominant promoter, David Wilcock, along with those of Benjamin Fulford. Wilcock and Fulford operate in the field of conspiracy research with Wilcock in America and Fulford in Japan.

I am not suggesting that either of them, or even the anonymous Drake, know that what they are promoting is all a scam, but a scam it is from where I am looking. They may know, but I am not saying that they do because I have no idea. My feeling, however, is that, amazingly, at least Wilcock and Fulford don't know. If 'Drake' doesn't know that what he and the other two say is nonsensical then he is not in control of his own mind so ridiculous are his statements - and theirs ...

... Fulford says that something called the 'Gnostic Illuminati' and the 'White Dragon Society' are going to arrest the leaders of the Global Cabal and release funds to end world poverty. They have given the Cabal a deadline (actually deadline after deadline after deadline) to give themselves up or else. But they never do and there is never any 'or else'. Fulford wrote in February, 2012:

'The group that claims to have started the American, French and Russian revolutions state they have issued a March 31st deadline to the committee of 300 [said to be part of the Rothschild control structure], according to their spokesman "Alexander Romanoff." In addition, Prince Harry has been in touch with the group and has agreed to take over control of the British Royal family from Queen Elizabeth.'

Would this be the same Queen and royal family which, having failed to report to the local constabulary to say 'it's a fair cop, guv' within Fulford deadline after deadline, somehow managed to appear day after day this month amid orgiastic mass public worship during the Diamond Jubilee rituals in which they were protected by enough troops, silly uniforms notwithstanding, to invade a country? I do believe it would.

Well, to keep things simple. Whether the Cabal goes down or not, Ascension is real and it will happen starting from December of this year. So, just wait until December and you will see many things have changed in the world. Right now, nothing seems to be happening. But, rest assured, the ETs do have a plan, and they will reveal it before December, so, please complain only after January 2013 arrives and nothing happens-which i highly doubt would happen.

Well, to keep things simple. Whether the Cabal goes down or not, Ascension is real and it will happen starting from December of this year. So, just wait until December and you will see many things have changed in the world. Right now, nothing seems to be happening. But, rest assured, the ETs do have a plan, and they will reveal it before December, so, please complain only after January 2013 arrives and nothing happens-which i highly doubt would happen.

Quoting: Solar Guardian

we shall see, won't we!what happens if 12/21/2012 turns out to be a big let-down, just like wilcock's "ascension 2000" or blossom goodchild's 2008 disclosure?perhaps you'll start telling me to wait ANOTHER year?

Well, to keep things simple. Whether the Cabal goes down or not, Ascension is real and it will happen starting from December of this year. So, just wait until December and you will see many things have changed in the world. Right now, nothing seems to be happening. But, rest assured, the ETs do have a plan, and they will reveal it before December, so, please complain only after January 2013 arrives and nothing happens-which i highly doubt would happen.

Quoting: Solar Guardian

we shall see, won't we!what happens if 12/21/2012 turns out to be a big let-down, just like wilcock's "ascension 2000" or blossom goodchild's 2008 disclosure?perhaps you'll start telling me to wait ANOTHER year?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16998097

Don't you notice the rise in earthquakes in diverse places all over? Don't you notice the rapid rise in volcanic eruptions since late May? Those are signs that the Earth is ready to transform to become a 5th dimensional planet from Dec 2012. The Earth will ascend. So will some of us.

Well, to keep things simple. Whether the Cabal goes down or not, Ascension is real and it will happen starting from December of this year. So, just wait until December and you will see many things have changed in the world. Right now, nothing seems to be happening. But, rest assured, the ETs do have a plan, and they will reveal it before December, so, please complain only after January 2013 arrives and nothing happens-which i highly doubt would happen.

Quoting: Solar Guardian

we shall see, won't we!what happens if 12/21/2012 turns out to be a big let-down, just like wilcock's "ascension 2000" or blossom goodchild's 2008 disclosure?perhaps you'll start telling me to wait ANOTHER year?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16998097

Don't you notice the rise in earthquakes in diverse places all over? Don't you notice the rapid rise in volcanic eruptions since late May? Those are signs that the Earth is ready to transform to become a 5th dimensional planet from Dec 2012. The Earth will ascend. So will some of us.

Quoting: Solar Guardian

earthquakes and volcanic activity in no way prove that the earth is "ascending" into the 5th dimension. you are just regurgitating new age dogma that we've all been hearing for the past 3+ decades. your statement "the earth will ascend. so will some of us" is a thinly-veiled condescending dig implying that true believers like YOU will ascend but skeptics like me won't because we didn't believe hard enough. in actuality, you have simply bought into a luciferian deception in your search for truth, and I pity you.

Well, to keep things simple. Whether the Cabal goes down or not, Ascension is real and it will happen starting from December of this year. So, just wait until December and you will see many things have changed in the world. Right now, nothing seems to be happening. But, rest assured, the ETs do have a plan, and they will reveal it before December, so, please complain only after January 2013 arrives and nothing happens-which i highly doubt would happen.

Quoting: Solar Guardian

we shall see, won't we!what happens if 12/21/2012 turns out to be a big let-down, just like wilcock's "ascension 2000" or blossom goodchild's 2008 disclosure?perhaps you'll start telling me to wait ANOTHER year?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16998097

Don't you notice the rise in earthquakes in diverse places all over? Don't you notice the rapid rise in volcanic eruptions since late May? Those are signs that the Earth is ready to transform to become a 5th dimensional planet from Dec 2012. The Earth will ascend. So will some of us.

Quoting: Solar Guardian

earthquakes and volcanic activity in no way prove that the earth is "ascending" into the 5th dimension. you are just regurgitating new age dogma that we've all been hearing for the past 3+ decades. your statement "the earth will ascend. so will some of us" is a thinly-veiled condescending dig implying that true believers like YOU will ascend but skeptics like me won't because we didn't believe hard enough. in actuality, you have simply bought into a luciferian deception in your search for truth, and I pity you.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16998097

I didn't say that only believers could ascend. Only those of a higher vibration could ascend. Meaning having pure and positive thoughts and actions, regardless of whether you're an atheist or theist/religious follower. Because bad guys, with their lower vibrations of negativity, can not survive the high vibrations of 5th dimension. Examples of such bad guys: murderers, robbers, etc.

There aren't any habitable planets in the Pleiades (Seven Sisters) star cluster.Most of the stars in that system have only gone through their life cycle long enough to form an accretion disk of dust around themselves.....which, may in another few hundred million years possibly form into a planet....then it has to be habitable.There is one system with proto-planets (asteroid sized) there in the Pleiades, but those bits of rock are a long way from forming into a life bearing planetoid!They are all pretty young stars really, compared to ours - Sol, which is quite an old star.

So drake's supposition that Pleiadeian's exist....well, whole idea seems a bit raggy to me really.If he's basing it on channeled info....that comes from familiar spirits, that are FAMILIAR with the lives of the people (poor suckers) they are giving info to....that kind of data is consistently unreliable.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3579277

The Pleaidians are 4th dimensional humans, meaning unlike us 3rd dimensional humans whose souls occupy a physical body, they ocuupy a crystalline molecular body or exist in pure soul form, so they are not affected by their environment as much as we do.

Quoting: Solar Guardian

My fellow Malaysian, Solar Guardian,

Please, please, please.....do not tell me you actually believe all this stuff?

Even after all the epic failures of the "alien religion" over the past decades, all the lies, empty promises, etc which sound too good to be true, and all the crap, that you actually believe in this? The latest June 21 dateline was another failure in a very long list?

Are you aware that most of this seemingly elaborate New Age crap is conjured up by the Rockefeller Foundation?

Are you aware that they have been FUNDING a lot of "alien research" organizations and websites?

Don't mind me saying, but this is a very slippery path you are on, and I think the Rockefellers are laughing hard at all the people who buy into this alien stuff. ***

There aren't any habitable planets in the Pleiades (Seven Sisters) star cluster.Most of the stars in that system have only gone through their life cycle long enough to form an accretion disk of dust around themselves.....which, may in another few hundred million years possibly form into a planet....then it has to be habitable.There is one system with proto-planets (asteroid sized) there in the Pleiades, but those bits of rock are a long way from forming into a life bearing planetoid!They are all pretty young stars really, compared to ours - Sol, which is quite an old star.

So drake's supposition that Pleiadeian's exist....well, whole idea seems a bit raggy to me really.If he's basing it on channeled info....that comes from familiar spirits, that are FAMILIAR with the lives of the people (poor suckers) they are giving info to....that kind of data is consistently unreliable.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3579277

The Pleaidians are 4th dimensional humans, meaning unlike us 3rd dimensional humans whose souls occupy a physical body, they ocuupy a crystalline molecular body or exist in pure soul form, so they are not affected by their environment as much as we do.

Quoting: Solar Guardian

My fellow Malaysian, Solar Guardian,

Please, please, please.....do not tell me you actually believe all this stuff?

Even after all the epic failures of the "alien religion" over the past decades, all the lies, empty promises, etc which sound too good to be true, and all the crap, that you actually believe in this? The latest June 21 dateline was another failure in a very long list?

Are you aware that most of this seemingly elaborate New Age crap is conjured up by the Rockefeller Foundation?

Are you aware that they have been FUNDING a lot of "alien research" organizations and websites?

Don't mind me saying, but this is a very slippery path you are on, and I think the Rockefellers are laughing hard at all the people who buy into this alien stuff. ***

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18434584

It is real. The dimensional shift is real. Because my heart and intuition tells me it is so. Many sources have already corroborated it, and the signs are just too numerous-rapid rise in earthquakes, failure of cabal to start a nuke war eventhough they have DUMBS to ride out the radiation, rapid rise in volcanic eruptions, weird behaviour of the Sun, Interstellar Magnetic Plasma Cloud to engulf the solar system starting from December, weird weather and global anomalies, etc. But as usual, you didn't do your research and and only rely on mainstream media, which doesn't cover all the above issue. Our origin is in the stars, and that is a fact.

THIS ARTICLE suggests that there may be a Legal Way for a people to gain liberation, and simultaneously free itself from its debts.

Here's an partial excerpt:

// quote //

The essential trick for a nation to liberate itself, is to declare a bill of rights and a republican constitution by referendum undercommon law and under the authority of the people themselves, after the example that has been set in the late 1700s by all three mentioned republics. As far as I am aware, the US did not use a referendum, but the Dutch Batavian Republic definitely did. It may be possible to use some other process, but with a constitution ratified by the people of a nation by referendum there is no question about the legal validity nor authority of said constitution. In other words: NO ONE can legally prevent the people of a nation to declare their independence under common law.

What this does is that it establishes a new legal entity, a free and really independent Republic, under the jurisdiction of Common Law instead of under the jurisdiction of international civil law, which up to this day still operates under authority and sovereignty of the Vatican. In other words: you now have two DIFFERENT legal entities governing over one and the same country, of which only one is really free and independent and operates under the authority of the People now actually OWNING their land instead of legally STILL being a vassal of the Vatican. The latter STILL being the case for at least all previous colonies of the United Kingdom, France, The Netherlands and Spain as well as ALL of Europe and Russia.

The other side of this is that the legal entity that still exists as a vassal of the Vatican no longer has any subjects nor any possessions within the now liberated country, BUT it is still burdened with ALL of its obligations and liabilities established under the authority and responsibility of the Vatican. So, these are NOT the problem of the now liberated people, which were after all just subjects ruled under the sovereignty of the Vatican.

In other words: we now have not only a nice trick to liberate a nation, but also a convenient way to get rid of the problem of nation’s debt, which is now the problem of the Vatican and not of the nation’s self-liberated people.

Well, to keep things simple. Whether the Cabal goes down or not, Ascension is real and it will happen starting from December of this year. So, just wait until December and you will see many things have changed in the world. Right now, nothing seems to be happening. But, rest assured, the ETs do have a plan, and they will reveal it before December, so, please complain only after January 2013 arrives and nothing happens-which i highly doubt would happen.

Quoting: Solar Guardian

we shall see, won't we!what happens if 12/21/2012 turns out to be a big let-down, just like wilcock's "ascension 2000" or blossom goodchild's 2008 disclosure?perhaps you'll start telling me to wait ANOTHER year?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16998097

Don't you notice the rise in earthquakes in diverse places all over? Don't you notice the rapid rise in volcanic eruptions since late May? Those are signs that the Earth is ready to transform to become a 5th dimensional planet from Dec 2012. The Earth will ascend. So will some of us.

Quoting: Solar Guardian

earthquakes and volcanic activity in no way prove that the earth is "ascending" into the 5th dimension. you are just regurgitating new age dogma that we've all been hearing for the past 3+ decades. your statement "the earth will ascend. so will some of us" is a thinly-veiled condescending dig implying that true believers like YOU will ascend but skeptics like me won't because we didn't believe hard enough. in actuality, you have simply bought into a luciferian deception in your search for truth, and I pity you.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16998097

I also think that we are ascending. I've got super-powers after reading these messages! Look at the Sun, its bigger, its whiter! If you are a service-to-others person, and wish to ascend I think you will.

Just ask for signs. Look at the sky! That's how they answered me! Good luck!

I am also struck about how some many "channelers" have also picked up on this Mass Arrests theme - which has morphed into a Mass-Arrests-with-ET help idea.

Here's how the Domestic Enemies Blog reported it:

Mass Arrests And Take Down Of The Cabal Talk Is Everywhere

Since Drake hit the scene back in March, there has been a lot of talk about the arrests and take down of the cabal, mostly from off-world and possibly, but not necessarily, imaginary sources. . . .I’m cautiously optimistic that “the event” will happen and that “the plan” will go down. But I wonder just how many of these, perhaps imaginary friends, are just along for the ride.

Any evidence beyond the "imaginary"?Not much really. For a while I thought the Mass Resignations might be, but there have been few Mass Resignations at the very top that appear to be anything but "normal" or coincidental.

I am still not ready to repeat the Drake Story to my Mainstream friends. I wonder when, if ever, that will change.

Any evidence beyond the "imaginary"?Not much really. For a while I thought the Mass Resignations might be, but there have been few Mass Resignations at the very top that appear to be anything but "normal" or coincidental.

I am still not ready to repeat the Drake Story to my Mainstream friends. I wonder when, if ever, that will change.

Quoting: Geologic

They gave me evidence! I had not read this one bellow when they proved themselves, but it worked just the same.

PERSPECTIVE ON ”REALITY”

Take time for each other, take time for yourselves, and look up into the sky every once in a while. You stare down at the street. We are up there, we’re there all the time. We’re with you, we’re always present with you, but you don’t see us, and sometimes we hide ourselves. We have technology to disguise ourselves but we can hover just 20 meters above you. We can stand in the grove next to your house without you seeing us, but occasionally we chose to show ourselves, so be attentive. If you begin to look up at the sky you will suddenly realize that we are there. Be attentive, stop staring down at the street and hurrying all the time! We’re around you all the time. There are constant energy transmissions taking place for the Earth, in cooperation with some people on Earth, in order to raise the collective consciousness of humanity by working with these Earth energies. We work together with Manne and Maria to raise the frequencies and the energies. We also know that there are other groups on Earth who do the same, and we encourage you: Come along! Join us! Work with yourselves! Work with the Earth! It’s possible to elevate a whole group of people simultaneously. You can connect a whole group of people through their consciousnesses to raise them simultaneously.