The man who intoxicates himself on bad whisky is sometimes moved to kill his wife and set his house on fire, but the victim of applejack is capable of blowing up a whole town with dynamite and of reciting original poetry to every surviving inhabitant.

+1 for Special B in Dunkelweizen (which is not the same as "Dunkel" btw). Brewed one up recently, and a non-brewer drank a few sips and picked out "plum" as a flavor completely on his own without me mentioning that that's the supposed flavor of one of the malts.

Personally, I think that the crystal's going to give you too much chewiness for this style and I would cut it back. You don't want too much mouthfeel. Then again I don't like a lot of caramel flavor in my German weizens.

I have, however, used a lb of honey in a dunkelweizen with good results.

Man, thank you for all the prompt replies. I picked up a couple pounds of special B and a pound of carafa II to go that route. Gonna throw in 4 lbs of honey at flameout. Very excited to see this one go. Hope I take enough yeast out of the bottom dump that it doesn't blow up my conical, lol. Thanks again for all the great replies, finally brewin again and drinkin real beer behind the zion curtain in utah. Cheers jason

Happy new years all. Ok I have to say this is the first and last recipe I ever follow. While I respect what you guys think of Jamil this dunkle is really dissapointing. I wish I would have gone with my first instincts and gone with the dark grains. Holy cow this thing is maybe a shade darker than heffe! While it dropped to the f.g. I had expected this thing is by far a big let down.