Obama is already doing a fine job of stealing from the post office. They had a billion dollar surplus under Bush and he was a terrible President. Now Obama bleeds the post office dry.

Wickabee

10-01-2012, 11:04 AM

It's not Romney, it's the party.

Star_Cards

10-01-2012, 01:14 PM

How is anyone saying it's a presidents fault that the USPS is bleeding money. The major reason is because of pension and healthcare they have to pay to retired employee. Sure gas and less mail are factors but most of the loss comes from poor labor agreements with their employees union.

Also, I say let the companies that ship take over daily household and business delivery. I ship all of my boxed packages through UPS. It's cheaper than even using the flat rate boxes at the USPS. I bet that Febex and UPS could come up with a daily delivery service to take over for the mail and be in the same price range. Maybe they don't deliver daily, but if they can make money they would do it.

angel0430

10-01-2012, 01:22 PM

At this point I believe this is a good idea for the sole reason that as of right now the USPS is not making any money. Close it out and let the private shipping companies take care of it.

mrveggieman

10-01-2012, 02:00 PM

At this point I believe this is a good idea for the sole reason that as of right now the USPS is not making any money. Close it out and let the private shipping companies take care of it.

I don't think that they should close it all together but they should subcontract some of their work to some of the major shipping companies.

Gorillawits

10-01-2012, 09:32 PM

The federal Government is forcing the post office to pay money into them and is bleeding them dry. They want to get rid of the post office so businesses will go under that depend upon the post office. Everything Obama is doing is to tear this country apart as fast as he can.

mrveggieman

10-02-2012, 07:59 AM

The federal Government is forcing the post office to pay money into them and is bleeding them dry. They want to get rid of the post office so businesses will go under that depend upon the post office. Everything Obama is doing is to tear this country apart as fast as he can.

Once again for the umpteenth time President Obama does not control the post office. The post office was facing the same problems when Bush was in office. Or do you forget that one?

Wickabee

10-02-2012, 11:39 AM

The federal Government is forcing the post office to pay money into them and is bleeding them dry. They want to get rid of the post office so businesses will go under that depend upon the post office. Everything Obama is doing is to tear this country apart as fast as he can.
Why, pray tell, would the government be against businesses that depend on the USPS? What do they gain?

Gorillawits

10-02-2012, 09:28 PM

The people in out Goverment on both sides of the alias are all sellouts. Michelle Bachman to Harry Reid, they all care for only themselves. You had one sane voice left in the congress who is retiring this year and the public refused to vote for him because they love corrupt politicians.

The Liberals want anyone who fights against christianity and the Neo-conservatives want anyone that pretends to be a Christain like George Bush and Ronald Reagan did.

Wickabee

10-02-2012, 10:03 PM

The people in out Goverment on both sides of the alias are all sellouts. Michelle Bachman to Harry Reid, they all care for only themselves. You had one sane voice left in the congress who is retiring this year and the public refused to vote for him because they love corrupt politicians.

The Liberals want anyone who fights against christianity and the Neo-conservatives want anyone that pretends to be a Christain like George Bush and Ronald Reagan did.

Nowhere in that rambling was there anything that even resembled an answer to my question.

Gorillawits

10-02-2012, 11:33 PM

Nowhere in that rambling was there anything that even resembled an answer to my question.

The answer was there, you just got mad at the truth because you love the corrupt politicians.

pghin08

10-02-2012, 11:46 PM

The people in out Goverment on both sides of the alias are all sellouts. Michelle Bachman to Harry Reid, they all care for only themselves. You had one sane voice left in the congress who is retiring this year and the public refused to vote for him because they love corrupt politicians.

The Liberals want anyone who fights against christianity and the Neo-conservatives want anyone that pretends to be a Christain like George Bush and Ronald Reagan did.

I actually agree with this. Not enough people talk about the con-job that Reagan and Bush Jr. pulled over on the religious right. Super-conservative Christians threw their weight behind both of them, and really never got anything to show for it.

Gorillawits

10-03-2012, 12:08 AM

I actually agree with this. Not enough people talk about the con-job that Reagan and Bush Jr. pulled over on the religious right. Super-conservative Christians threw their weight behind both of them, and really never got anything to show for it.

Ronald Reagan was a Pagan. I listened to one of his speeches awhile back and he was saying nothing. Since he was an actor he just knew how to say "nothing" well. Both he and John Paul II stepped out of line and that is why they both got shot. After they recovered they both backed down instead of standing up for Jesus.

Regan put that wicked witch on the supreme court who was the deciding vote in keeping abortion legal. So millions of babys died at the hands of Pagan Reagen. Regan also signed an abortion bill into law while he was Governor of California at the advice of Catholic Preist. He claimed to have made a msiatke then he goes and does the same thing once he becomes President showing he never repented.

Regan used astrologers to tell him when to give his speeches and how to make important life-death decisions. The christian bible says astrologers are suppose to be "executed" yet Regan is taking their advice to run the country.

George Bush wore a Catholic Cap when he prayed in private, you could see it left a line in his hair cause he wore it so much. Bush carried around a Judaist Talmud which is a book that contradicts the Hebrew Tanahk.

Mitt Romney is no different, he has the same paymasters as Bush and Regan. Mitt Romney would not truly oppose gay marriage or abortion.

shrewsbury

10-03-2012, 08:36 AM

Jesus said astrologers should be executed??????

can you give me the verse please?

pghin08

10-03-2012, 08:48 AM

Ronald Reagan was a Pagan. I listened to one of his speeches awhile back and he was saying nothing. Since he was an actor he just knew how to say "nothing" well. Both he and John Paul II stepped out of line and that is why they both got shot. After they recovered they both backed down instead of standing up for Jesus.

Regan put that wicked witch on the supreme court who was the deciding vote in keeping abortion legal. So millions of babys died at the hands of Pagan Reagen. Regan also signed an abortion bill into law while he was Governor of California at the advice of Catholic Preist. He claimed to have made a msiatke then he goes and does the same thing once he becomes President showing he never repented.

Regan used astrologers to tell him when to give his speeches and how to make important life-death decisions. The christian bible says astrologers are suppose to be "executed" yet Regan is taking their advice to run the country.

George Bush wore a Catholic Cap when he prayed in private, you could see it left a line in his hair cause he wore it so much. Bush carried around a Judaist Talmud which is a book that contradicts the Hebrew Tanahk.

Mitt Romney is no different, he has the same paymasters as Bush and Regan. Mitt Romney would not truly oppose gay marriage or abortion.

Pretty sure Reagan was shot because that nutjob Hinckley wanted to hook up with Jodie Foster.

Wickabee

10-03-2012, 10:39 AM

The answer was there, you just got mad at the truth because you love the corrupt politicians.

I do, do I.

Please explain how anything you said told me why the government is against businesses that use the postal system.

Star_Cards

10-03-2012, 10:47 AM

The federal Government is forcing the post office to pay money into them and is bleeding them dry. They want to get rid of the post office so businesses will go under that depend upon the post office. Everything Obama is doing is to tear this country apart as fast as he can.

Do you really think that the government wants businesses to go under? Seems like an absurd point of view to me.

As far as connecting this to Obama... I don't think the USPS started losing money by the millions just since Obama became president. What sort of legislation has Obama introduced that has helped cause the loss of millions by the USPS?

Star_Cards

10-03-2012, 10:51 AM

The answer was there, you just got mad at the truth because you love the corrupt politicians.

I didn't see an answer either... nor did I personally get mad. Even if liberals want anti-christianity and conservatives want christianity (as your post states) I see no answer to why either side would want the USPS to go away and force businesses to fail.

Even if that were true, why does the means of shipping mail and such have to be under the system of the USPS. If there is a need, and there is, a private company would step in and fill the void left by the USPS if it were shut down.

mrveggieman

10-03-2012, 11:00 AM

I didn't see an answer either... nor did I personally get mad. Even if liberals want anti-christianity and conservatives want christianity (as your post states) I see no answer to why either side would want the USPS to go away and force businesses to fail.

Even if that were true, why does the means of shipping mail and such have to be under the system of the USPS. If there is a need, and there is, a private company would step in and fill the void left by the USPS if it were shut down.

Mabey the so called liberals want the PO to go under so conservatives can stop sending out bibles or the conservatives want the PO to go under so the so called libs can stop sending out porn. :pound:

*censored*

10-03-2012, 11:03 AM

Did no one learn from the first time Gorillawits was around these parts?