I didn't realize how far Ben Wallace has fallen. His rebounding is now 28th in the NBA at 8.4 per game. Even McDyess (204) has more rebounds than Ben (201). Perhaps Skiles took more blame than he deserved...

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Careful, a large proportion of formulites would have a hard time dealing with that reality factor.

I practically fell out of my chair when I read an earlier comment on: "Can't Ben get along with any coach?"

Paxon should be man enough to admit he made a huge mistake and buy Ben out to save the rest of the team. It really wouldn't be a big deal...it's only money. Bulls have to move on.

Ben suffers from depression. This is a real malady. He is struggling to ply his craft. I believe that a change in scenery would help. He'll not snap out of this malady unless he is able to resolve the issues in his head. Notice the only games that he connects with are the games against the PISTONS. Thats when he feels whole again. He simply misses his buddies. Just like many of us still miss him and appreciate what he has done for our franchise..........

Ben suffers from depression. This is a real malady. He is struggling to ply his craft. I believe that a change in scenery would help. He'll not snap out of this malady unless he is able to resolve the issues in his head. Notice the only games that he connects with are the games against the PISTONS. Thats when he feels whole again. He simply misses his buddies. Just like many of us still miss him and appreciate what he has done for our franchise..........

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I think it was either Big Ben or Flipper. In my opinion they just could not resolve their differences. The blame to me falls on Flipper, because as coach it is his responsibility to do what is necessary to insure that his players want to play for him.

I think it was either Big Ben or Flipper. In my opinion they just could not resolve their differences. The blame to me falls on Flipper, because as coach it is his responsibility to do what is necessary to insure that his players want to play for him.

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agreed, and if Ben was 3-4 years younger Joe probably would have kept ben and sent flip packing... but ben's window was closing and Joe knew it.

agreed, and if Ben was 3-4 years younger Joe probably would have kept ben and sent flip packing... but ben's window was closing and Joe knew it.

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I am never bothered by conclusions. I am more concerned by the customarily pathways leading up to them.

Your conclusions leave out a whole host of interesting Shakespearean plot twist that leave not a rack behind. Instead, you hop-skip-jump into the conclusion's status of a deus ex machina, which would indeed, embarrass JD.

I think it was either Big Ben or Flipper. In my opinion they just could not resolve their differences. The blame to me falls on Flipper, because as coach it is his responsibility to do what is necessary to insure that his players want to play for him.

After watching Ben play the past 2 Bulls games, you see a different player. There could be two reasons for this 1/ he was dogging it under Skiles, 2/ the way he feels emotionally is extremely important as to how he plays. I don't know which one it is. I would've said the latter b/c i think Ben has too much pride to not try, but alot of the things he's doing better now are just effort related. I'm starting to feel like my perception of him was just that, a perception.

I still fully blame Flip for the situation though. He couldn't have handled it worse, and doesn't seem to know how to handle players in general, as seen with his continuing inabilities.

"Hey, Amir, you will play, we're working on getting you time, Stay ready"

So, Sheed decided this year to reduce his minutes? It`s Sheed who is making decisions on AJ`s minutes and the increased PT for Max?

Please get off the Sheed is the coach kick.........

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It is not a kick.

I honestly believe that Sheed has a very significant influence on what happens in the locker room and on the court. I and others have brought links to support this position. You might want to go back and read them.

Sorry you don't see it that way.

As far as AJ goes, the answer to the question is definitely yes beyond a doubt. Sheed has been working with AJ all year and I can guarantee you that he is giving serious big time input to the coaching staff including Saunders about whether AJ is ready to move into the rotation. Who better to know than the guy who plays against him in practice and mentors him.

Since AJ is playing behind Maxey, AJ minutes affect Maxey's and vice versa. So yes Sheed is even having a big input on Maxey's minutes.

I honestly believe that Sheed has a very significant influence on what happens in the locker room and on the court. I and others have brought links to support this position. You might want to go back and read them.

Sorry you don't see it that way.

As far as AJ goes, the answer to the question is definitely yes beyond a doubt. Sheed has been working with AJ all year and I can guarantee you that he is giving serious big time input to the coaching staff including Saunders about whether AJ is ready to move into the rotation. Who better to know than the guy who plays against him in practice and mentors him.

Since AJ is playing behind Maxey, AJ minutes affect Maxey's and vice versa. So yes Sheed is even having a big input on Maxey's minutes.

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Give me a break.

I am sure Sheed does have sme input on what happens in the lockeroom and on the court., and so does CB, Rip, and Tay. I guess they are assistant coaches.

But to say Sheed coaches the team is a stretch, sorry you don1t see it that way. Now, if it`s your opinion that Sheed is the coach, then i see your point.