I would just like to wish Aric a kind sendoff, as he leaves this forum.

I for one, have always enjoyed his posts, and know the amount of effort that was put into his testing and well written posts. I am somewhat certain that I am not a minority in saying so. I fondly remember RC.com when it was a useful forum for sharing knowledge, and actually had a sense of community to it, and Aric's posts brought about meaningful conversations, and equipment analysis reminicent of those days.

Adatesman, if I ever meet you in person, I owe you a beer.

Toss me a PM if you find a better home to share your knowledge. You will be missed.

Thanks for starting this thread. I also will miss having Aric on this forum.

I have always appreciated his testing, writeups, and the amazing amount of time he has spent trying to help us better understand climbing equipment.

As the only person to ever enter the homemade cam comp two years in a row, I also want to let Aric know that his Idea for a competition was a blast to compete in, and was a good excuse for me to do what I love and make something.

You will be missed Aric, I'm sorry it had to end this way.

I would love to know where you will be taking your knowledge to so that I can continue to benefit from it.

I would just like to wish Aric a kind sendoff, as he leaves this forum.

I for one, have always enjoyed his posts, and know the amount of effort that was put into his testing and well written posts. I am somewhat certain that I am not a minority in saying so. I fondly remember RC.com when it was a useful forum for sharing knowledge, and actually had a sense of community to it, and Aric's posts brought about meaningful conversations, and equipment analysis reminicent of those days.

Adatesman, if I ever meet you in person, I owe you a beer.

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I don't know what went down either, but it is in bad taste to delete all your posts IMO.

I started the Lab years ago as a single thread. I fought for it to become its own forum. But it wasn't until I "hired" adatesman to run it that I saw my humble idea blossom into more than I ever expected.

Can someone please summarize? That's a lot of thread to cover. By summarize, I mean the chronological, factual events which occurred, not people's opinions about them. If this is not appropriate for this thread, I would be happy to be PMd or take it to a new or different thread.

I for one enjoyed much of the original hard work and material adatesman contributed, and I am curious as to what occurred.

Can someone please summarize? That's a lot of thread to cover. By summarize, I mean the chronological, factual events which occurred, not people's opinions about them. If this is not appropriate for this thread, I would be happy to be PMd or take it to a new or different thread.

I for one enjoyed much of the original hard work and material adatesman contributed, and I am curious as to what occurred.

Much as I would like to know, I don't think it is appropriate for this thread. There is clearly too much that is emotionally inflammatory to the parties involved for it to be here, where we are expressing our loss at Aric's leaving.

Can someone please summarize? That's a lot of thread to cover. By summarize, I mean the chronological, factual events which occurred, not people's opinions about them. If this is not appropriate for this thread, I would be happy to be PMd or take it to a new or different thread.

I for one enjoyed much of the original hard work and material adatesman contributed, and I am curious as to what occurred.

Much as I would like to know, I don't think it is appropriate for this thread. There is clearly too much that is emotionally inflammatory to the parties involved for it to be here, where we are expressing our loss at Aric's leaving.

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Without getting into all the garbage, I definitely appreciated his work in the lab, and will miss his contributions.

Deleting all of that useful content he provided is the act of a big cry baby who wants to punish everyone for what a few people might have said about him. I don't get why I need to be punished for some argument someone else had.

Bummer everyone suffers because of some stupid argument that will be fairly meaningless next week.

Dave

[edit to remove negative comment because it was already said in some other thread]

Deleting all of that useful content he provided is the act of a big cry baby who wants to punish everyone for what a few people might have said about him. I don't get why I need to be punished for some argument someone else had.

Bummer everyone suffers because of some stupid argument that will be fairly meaningless next week.

Dave

Just to clarify, I don't disagree with your assessment but Aric has stated his intentions from the beginning to move the content elsewhere so its not completely lost.

Have to disagree. His "contributions" were minimal at best and in some cases potentially harmful. Unfortunately Aric seldom understood the limitations of his knowledge, which often resulted in ill-conceived tests and/or poor interpretations of the results. Like much of pseudoscience, it sounds reasonable to the uninformed. And he'd get overly defensive when errors were pointed out. In the long run, this forum is truly better off without Aric.

You'll be back, Aric, even if on another site. Good luck to you, though. I always considered the Lab to be yours (even if Jay's taking credit for it above ^^ ). Lots of good stuff in there. Something to be proud of.

Really? You put no value in the Cam contest? You put no value in the discussion and education created in The Lab? You put no value in the fact that he spearheaded the efforts to organize UIAA and US Consumer affairs, after destroying 9 of his own cams to determine that there were problems within CCH?

Have to disagree. His "contributions" were minimal at best and in some cases potentially harmful. Unfortunately Aric seldom understood the limitations of his knowledge, which often resulted in ill-conceived tests and/or poor interpretations of the results. Like much of pseudoscience, it sounds reasonable to the uninformed. And he'd get overly defensive when errors were pointed out. In the long run, this forum is truly better off without Aric.