The problem with the GT500 is grip, not power. They can add 50 hp if they like, but if it can't manage to put it down ... . 305s, MR suspension, & PTM will go a long way towards maximizing available grip in the ZL1

It will eat the Shelby with only the 556......the CTS V does that with extra weight. Hell.....I ate Shelbys with 550 in my SS.

True, but the issue is that the Shelby that they bring to market shortly after the ZL1 is going to be a whole other animal. I don't know how much they'll address the traction issues, but rumors are 600+hp.

That's the target the ZL1 will have to compete with, not the old model.

The problem with the GT500 is grip, not power. They can add 50 hp if they like, but if it can't manage to put it down ... . 305s, MR suspension, & PTM will go a long way towards maximizing available grip in the ZL1

True, but the issue is that the Shelby that they bring to market shortly after the ZL1 is going to be a whole other animal. I don't know how much they'll address the traction issues, but rumors are 600+hp.

That's the target the ZL1 will have to compete with, not the old model.

Actually Al said it would have more than the CTS-V, which is rated at 556hp. But do you honestly believe they are going to add just 1hp extra after making a statement like that?

I agree but remember when the Camaro SS's final hp figures came out...it happened to be only 1hp more than the Challenger's SRT8 (425hp) making it 426hp? I was like WTF!!! So I hope they won't do it to the ZL1.

I agree but remember when the Camaro SS's final hp figures came out...it happened to be only 1hp more than the Challenger's SRT8 (425hp) making it 426hp? I was like WTF!!! So I hope they won't do it to the ZL1.

However that IS acceptable if the GT500 is 600hp and the ZL1 comes out at 601hp

I agree but remember when the Camaro SS's final hp figures came out...it happened to be only 1hp more than the Challenger's SRT8 (425hp) making it 426hp? I was like WTF!!! So I hope they won't do it to the ZL1.

Ford did the same thing with their V6 Mustang. 1 HP and 1 MPG more than the Camaro. It's definitely a trend that I hope won't continue with the ZL1.

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True, but the issue is that the Shelby that they bring to market shortly after the ZL1 is going to be a whole other animal. I don't know how much they'll address the traction issues, but rumors are 600+hp.

That's the target the ZL1 will have to compete with, not the old model.

Well bring on that snake lol. Gotta love these car wars. I still can't wait to see the ZL1 stomp it. I can't wait to see all the new cars at the track. Should make for some fun times......esp for the sleeper cars like my SS. Maybe the Z will have 585 or 600hp, or maybe 560hp with some mean torque numbers. But with the bigger tires on the Camaro, I don't think the Mustang has a chance. Every Shelby I've raced has had crazy traction issues while my bigger tires have just hugged the ground as I left em......let's hope for the same outcome.

I agree but remember when the Camaro SS's final hp figures came out...it happened to be only 1hp more than the Challenger's SRT8 (425hp) making it 426hp? I was like WTF!!! So I hope they won't do it to the ZL1.

I'm sure that was purely a coincidence ... lol

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Ford did the same thing with their V6 Mustang. 1 HP and 1 MPG more than the Camaro. It's definitely a trend that I hope won't continue with the ZL1.

Problem is, if both the ZL1 & the GT500 are released at roughly the same time next year neither company will have the time to get their car rated at just enough to beat the other guy. Plus, with SAE certified hp ratings, there isn't a whole lot of wiggle room. So if the margin between the two engines is more than lets say 1%, I don't think it will be possible to give them near identical ratings.

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