There is absolutely nothing wrong with population control, if it does not involve killing, quite the contrary, it is a right thing to do. The thing
is, these depopulation conspiracies usualy do involve violence. Not that I believe in any of them.

Do you mean besides the obvious point of who decides which people need to go/die and the moral implications of said decisions? I'm surprised at the
question to be honest.... would you care if you're on the list to be part of the controlled population?

To answer your question about what TPTB gain... it's simple....

As a child, they make you stupid and unable to see through the "fog" that they push into you through TV and fill you with propaganda and false ideas
to make sure you follow "the system" of getting a job that will allow you pay taxes and make them and their friends rich in the process. Once
you've put in enough work time for TPTB to recoup their "investment" in your "education" through the work you've done, and they reach "profit"
status, that would be when you're roughly old enough to drop dead and for them not to care one way or the other. Oh wait, I forgot that while you are
dropping dead, they will milk you for every penny you think you earned in your "good" years while sending you through a medical establishment that
they control, only to tell you to politely "die" when you can't pay for said health care anymore.

Does that about sum it up or shall I go on?

I always say there are no such things as dumb questions, but please do yourself a favor and educate yourself on ATS and other subjects before posting
something like this.

Yes it's a bad thing! Are there people who should not have kids because they are unfit or can't afford them? Absolutely. Do we need the government
picking and choosing who does and does not get to procreate? Hell no!

You are going down a slippery slope here. We may have too many people on this planet, but I'll take that anyday over the government taking ownership
over any part of my body! That is where this idea would take us all.

And what would they gain?

Mindless slaves
The most massive civilian regime of soldiers the world has ever known
Mindless slaves
The ability to control all aspects of everyday life
Mindless slaves... you get the picture.

Give the government an inch, and they'll da@n sure take everything else that follows.

Originally posted by Maslo
There is absolutely nothing wrong with population control, if it does not involve killing, quite the contrary, it is a right thing to do. The thing
is, these depopulation conspiracies usualy do involve violence. Not that I believe in any of them.

Are you being sarcastic? If not, that's how I view it. I'm very well aware of the extreme opinions on this. I try to stay neutral.

It has been proven that this "overpopulation problem" only exists because of

1. The inability to properly distribute recourses.

2. The inability to evolve our primitive forms of energy.

These are the two main reasons why we are all not living like kings, which everyone on this planet has a right to.

The powers that be have hoarded the recourses, and exploited our Earth - Using guilt (as always) to control us, and using guilt to condition us into
believing that Planet Earth is not capable of harboring 8 billion people.

Many years of my life, I have spent under the belief that "War is necessary", that there are too many people, or that we are nothing more than a
virus.

The truth is, we have been manipulated into all of this - to the point where there will be no turning back, and this "trimming of the fat" will be
the only way for us to continue.

Originally posted by PoorFool
So a big deal about the NWO is that they will attempt to decrease population over the next few decades.
Is this necessarily a bad thing? (given that they use non-violent methods)

I have a suggestion for anyone that believes that population control is necessary - don't be a hypocrite - volunteer yourself and your future progeny
to be the first to be 'reduced'. It doesn't have to be violent to be evil and the ideas behind how people could quite happily voluntarily be
reduced have been discussed for 90 years. This isn't new - but it was violent in the last century and hundreds of millions (no joke) were violently
'reduced' as a result. This is serious, its not an academic concept to debate with your friends - you either respect life and believe it should be
protected or you don't.

This just isn't debatable, you are either for genocide or against it. You are either for condemning the souls of the 200 million in the past and those
who will suffer in the future - or you aren't. This is the big duality, and very well the only one that really matters.

Cool, please do give us some examples of how we can non-violently force people to not reproduce or be 'reduced' at present? Then try to explain how
you, your family, your friends, and descendants won't be caught up in it. Then explain how negative population growth rates are a good thing for a
society which requires continual growth in order to not collapse and how an economic collapse won't be violent.

Originally posted by Maslo
There is absolutely nothing wrong with population control, if it does not involve killing, quite the contrary, it is a right thing to do. The thing
is, these depopulation conspiracies usualy do involve violence. Not that I believe in any of them.

Are you being sarcastic? If not, that's how I view it. I'm very well aware of the extreme opinions on this. I try to stay neutral.

No, I am not sarcastic.

Population control is not inherently right or wrong. It is a tool, and if used wise, can get humanity closer to living in harmony with the universe
and its laws, and increase the quality of life of everyone on this planet.

Contraception is what I'm talking about. I don't see how anyone will be harmed by preventing more babies to be born.

Look at Japan for example. Their population is declining because more and more people chose not to have children, yet they have they have the highest
life expectancy on the planet. This is what I think would be ideal, but people make it seem like it's a bad thing.

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