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<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Another nothing burger compliments of the dimms that lost the 2016 election...</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Its time to return control of the House to Republicans and get on with moving the country forward. &nbsp;The 2020 election is going to be easier that I thought all because the dimms learned absolutely nothing from the 2016 election.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>So carry on everybody! &nbsp;Keep doing what you are doing and watch the Independents teach you once again!!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT face="arial black,avant garde">Do you not understand that the DNI is in violation of the law by not releasing the whistle blower complaint?&nbsp; Why are you so anxious to give away your freedoms?&nbsp; If you want to live in a Dictatorship, go ahead; but, don't expect the rest of us to.</FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT face="arial black,avant garde">BTW, you do realize that the majority of Americans expect Congress to actually have due diligence in their oversight duties?&nbsp; That should be the lesson learned from 2018.&nbsp; </FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT face="arial black,avant garde">To not acknowledge that what is going on is a violation of the law is very hypocritical of you.</FONT></P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 16:28:11 GMTsp3622019-09-25T16:28:11ZDonald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185320#M930149
<P><FONT size="4"><STRONG>BY: &nbsp; &nbsp;Charles Spiering</STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><STRONG>President Donald Trump announced Tuesday afternoon that he would release the full transcript of his phone call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky.</STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>“I am currently at the United Nations representing our Country, but have authorized the release tomorrow of the complete, fully declassified and unredacted transcript of my phone conversation with President Zelensky of Ukraine,” he wrote on Twitter.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The president announced his decision as more House Democrats meet to <A href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/09/24/house-dems-debate-impeach-trump-ukraine-allegations-biden/2427884001/" target="_blank" rel="noopener external">discuss</A>impeachment proceedings to check what they believe is an unprecedented abuse of executive power. Some House Democrats, such as Rep. John Lewis (D-GA), have already <A href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbTvmcgCJF4" target="_blank" rel="noopener external">made up their minds</A> to support impeachment.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Since an anonymous “whistleblower” made public allegations that Trump acted inappropriately in a call with Ukraine by asking about investigating his potential opponent, former Vice President Joe Biden, Democrats have demanded further details about his conversation.</P><P>But Trump says he had nothing to hide.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>“You will see it was a very friendly and totally appropriate call,” he wrote.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Establishment media and Democrats are driving the narrative that the president purposefully withheld federal aid to Ukraine in an effort to strong-arm leaders into an investigation of the former vice president and his son Hunter Biden. Trump has denied the allegations.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>“No pressure and, unlike Joe Biden and his son, NO quid pro quo!” Trump wrote, referring to Biden’s Ukraine scandal. “This is nothing more than a continuation of the Greatest and most Destructive Witch Hunt of all time!”</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><DIV class="SandboxRoot env-bp-350"><DIV class="EmbeddedTweet EmbeddedTweet--cta js-clickToOpenTarget"><DIV class="EmbeddedTweet-tweetContainer"><DIV class="EmbeddedTweet-tweet"><BLOCKQUOTE><DIV class="Tweet-header"><A href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><IMG src="https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/874276197357596672/kUuht00m_normal.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></A><DIV class="TweetAuthor js-inViewportScribingTarget"><DIV class="TweetAuthor-nameScreenNameContainer"><SPAN class="TweetAuthor-decoratedName"><SPAN class="TweetAuthor-name Identity-name customisable-highlight">Donald J. Trump</SPAN></SPAN><DIV class="Icon Icon--verified ">&nbsp;</DIV><SPAN class="TweetAuthor-decoratedName"><SPAN class="TweetAuthor-verifiedBadge"><STRONG>✔</STRONG></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class="TweetAuthor-screenName Identity-screenName">@realDonaldTrump</SPAN></DIV></DIV><DIV class="Tweet-brand"><DIV class="Icon Icon--twitter ">&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></DIV><DIV class="Tweet-body e-entry-content"><DIV class="Tweet-target js-inViewportScribingTarget">&nbsp;</DIV><P class="Tweet-text e-entry-title">I am currently at the United Nations representing our Country, but have authorized the release tomorrow of the complete, fully declassified and unredacted transcript of my phone conversation with President Zelensky of Ukraine....</P><P class="Tweet-text e-entry-title">&nbsp;</P><P class="Tweet-text e-entry-title">&nbsp;</P><P class="Tweet-text e-entry-title">&nbsp;</P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 13:21:27 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185320#M930149jimc912019-09-25T13:21:27ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185339#M930154
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><FONT size="4"><STRONG>BY: &nbsp; &nbsp;Charles Spiering</STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><STRONG>President Donald Trump announced Tuesday afternoon that he would release the full transcript of his phone call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky.</STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>“I am currently at the United Nations representing our Country, but have authorized the release tomorrow of the complete, fully declassified and unredacted transcript of my phone conversation with President Zelensky of Ukraine,” he wrote on Twitter.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The president announced his decision as more House Democrats meet to <A href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/09/24/house-dems-debate-impeach-trump-ukraine-allegations-biden/2427884001/" target="_blank" rel="noopener external">discuss</A>impeachment proceedings to check what they believe is an unprecedented abuse of executive power. Some House Democrats, such as Rep. John Lewis (D-GA), have already <A href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbTvmcgCJF4" target="_blank" rel="noopener external">made up their minds</A> to support impeachment.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Since an anonymous “whistleblower” made public allegations that Trump acted inappropriately in a call with Ukraine by asking about investigating his potential opponent, former Vice President Joe Biden, Democrats have demanded further details about his conversation.</P><P>But Trump says he had nothing to hide.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>“You will see it was a very friendly and totally appropriate call,” he wrote.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Establishment media and Democrats are driving the narrative that the president purposefully withheld federal aid to Ukraine in an effort to strong-arm leaders into an investigation of the former vice president and his son Hunter Biden. Trump has denied the allegations.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>“No pressure and, unlike Joe Biden and his son, NO quid pro quo!” Trump wrote, referring to Biden’s Ukraine scandal. “This is nothing more than a continuation of the Greatest and most Destructive Witch Hunt of all time!”</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><DIV class="SandboxRoot env-bp-350"><DIV class="EmbeddedTweet EmbeddedTweet--cta js-clickToOpenTarget"><DIV class="EmbeddedTweet-tweetContainer"><DIV class="EmbeddedTweet-tweet"><BLOCKQUOTE><DIV class="Tweet-header"><A href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><IMG src="https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/874276197357596672/kUuht00m_normal.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></A><DIV class="TweetAuthor js-inViewportScribingTarget"><DIV class="TweetAuthor-nameScreenNameContainer"><SPAN class="TweetAuthor-decoratedName"><SPAN class="TweetAuthor-name Identity-name customisable-highlight">Donald J. Trump</SPAN></SPAN><DIV class="Icon Icon--verified ">&nbsp;</DIV><SPAN class="TweetAuthor-decoratedName"><SPAN class="TweetAuthor-verifiedBadge"><STRONG>✔</STRONG></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class="TweetAuthor-screenName Identity-screenName">@realDonaldTrump</SPAN></DIV></DIV><DIV class="Tweet-brand"><DIV class="Icon Icon--twitter ">&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></DIV><DIV class="Tweet-body e-entry-content"><DIV class="Tweet-target js-inViewportScribingTarget">&nbsp;</DIV><P class="Tweet-text e-entry-title">I am currently at the United Nations representing our Country, but have authorized the release tomorrow of the complete, fully declassified and unredacted transcript of my phone conversation with President Zelensky of Ukraine....</P><P class="Tweet-text e-entry-title">&nbsp;</P><P class="Tweet-text e-entry-title">&nbsp;</P><P class="Tweet-text e-entry-title">&nbsp;</P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT face="arial black,avant garde">It is not about the transcript, it is about THE WHISTLE BLOWER COMPLAINT WHICH THEY LEGALLY COULD NOT BLOCK and could include more than just this transcript.&nbsp; While investigating the whistle complaint, they MAY ask for this transcript, but this transcript by itself means nothing.</FONT></P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 13:57:15 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185339#M930154sp3622019-09-25T13:57:15ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185347#M930156
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><FONT size="4"><STRONG>BY: &nbsp; &nbsp;Charles Spiering</STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><STRONG>President Donald Trump announced Tuesday afternoon that he would release the full transcript of his phone call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky.</STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>“I am currently at the United Nations representing our Country, but have authorized the release tomorrow of the complete, fully declassified and unredacted transcript of my phone conversation with President Zelensky of Ukraine,” he wrote on Twitter.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The president announced his decision as more House Democrats meet to <A href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/09/24/house-dems-debate-impeach-trump-ukraine-allegations-biden/2427884001/" target="_blank" rel="noopener external">discuss</A>impeachment proceedings to check what they believe is an unprecedented abuse of executive power. Some House Democrats, such as Rep. John Lewis (D-GA), have already <A href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbTvmcgCJF4" target="_blank" rel="noopener external">made up their minds</A> to support impeachment.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Since an anonymous “whistleblower” made public allegations that Trump acted inappropriately in a call with Ukraine by asking about investigating his potential opponent, former Vice President Joe Biden, Democrats have demanded further details about his conversation.</P><P>But Trump says he had nothing to hide.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>“You will see it was a very friendly and totally appropriate call,” he wrote.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Establishment media and Democrats are driving the narrative that the president purposefully withheld federal aid to Ukraine in an effort to strong-arm leaders into an investigation of the former vice president and his son Hunter Biden. Trump has denied the allegations.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>“No pressure and, unlike Joe Biden and his son, NO quid pro quo!” Trump wrote, referring to Biden’s Ukraine scandal. “This is nothing more than a continuation of the Greatest and most Destructive Witch Hunt of all time!”</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><DIV class="SandboxRoot env-bp-350"><DIV class="EmbeddedTweet EmbeddedTweet--cta js-clickToOpenTarget"><DIV class="EmbeddedTweet-tweetContainer"><DIV class="EmbeddedTweet-tweet"><BLOCKQUOTE><DIV class="Tweet-header"><A href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><IMG src="https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/874276197357596672/kUuht00m_normal.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></A><DIV class="TweetAuthor js-inViewportScribingTarget"><DIV class="TweetAuthor-nameScreenNameContainer"><SPAN class="TweetAuthor-decoratedName"><SPAN class="TweetAuthor-name Identity-name customisable-highlight">Donald J. Trump</SPAN></SPAN><DIV class="Icon Icon--verified ">&nbsp;</DIV><SPAN class="TweetAuthor-decoratedName"><SPAN class="TweetAuthor-verifiedBadge"><STRONG>✔</STRONG></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class="TweetAuthor-screenName Identity-screenName">@realDonaldTrump</SPAN></DIV></DIV><DIV class="Tweet-brand"><DIV class="Icon Icon--twitter ">&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></DIV><DIV class="Tweet-body e-entry-content"><DIV class="Tweet-target js-inViewportScribingTarget">&nbsp;</DIV><P class="Tweet-text e-entry-title">I am currently at the United Nations representing our Country, but have authorized the release tomorrow of the complete, fully declassified and unredacted transcript of my phone conversation with President Zelensky of Ukraine....</P><P class="Tweet-text e-entry-title">&nbsp;</P><P class="Tweet-text e-entry-title">&nbsp;</P><P class="Tweet-text e-entry-title">&nbsp;</P><P class="Tweet-text e-entry-title"><FONT size="6" color="#FF0000"><STRONG>He is not providing anything, His Departmet of Intelligence and justive are&nbsp; one that releases anything.</STRONG></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:05:21 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185347#M930156Roxanna352019-09-25T14:05:21ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185356#M930157
<P><FONT size="4" color="#993366"><EM><STRONG>Too little.......too late.&nbsp;&nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:20:26 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185356#M930157Richva2019-09-25T14:20:26ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185401#M930179
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="280540"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><FONT size="4" color="#993366"><EM><STRONG>Too little.......too late.&nbsp;&nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="6" color="#FF0000"><STRONG>If they actually release the correct information, which I stillhave my doubts.</STRONG></FONT></P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 16:01:36 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185401#M930179Roxanna352019-09-25T16:01:36ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185406#M930182
<P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Another nothing burger compliments of the dimms that lost the 2016 election...</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Its time to return control of the House to Republicans and get on with moving the country forward. &nbsp;The 2020 election is going to be easier that I thought all because the dimms learned absolutely nothing from the 2016 election.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>So carry on everybody! &nbsp;Keep doing what you are doing and watch the Independents teach you once again!!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 16:18:42 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185406#M930182jimc912019-09-25T16:18:42ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185407#M930183
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Another nothing burger compliments of the dimms that lost the 2016 election...</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Its time to return control of the House to Republicans and get on with moving the country forward. &nbsp;The 2020 election is going to be easier that I thought all because the dimms learned absolutely nothing from the 2016 election.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>So carry on everybody! &nbsp;Keep doing what you are doing and watch the Independents teach you once again!!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT face="arial black,avant garde">Do you not understand that the DNI is in violation of the law by not releasing the whistle blower complaint?&nbsp; Why are you so anxious to give away your freedoms?&nbsp; If you want to live in a Dictatorship, go ahead; but, don't expect the rest of us to.</FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT face="arial black,avant garde">BTW, you do realize that the majority of Americans expect Congress to actually have due diligence in their oversight duties?&nbsp; That should be the lesson learned from 2018.&nbsp; </FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT face="arial black,avant garde">To not acknowledge that what is going on is a violation of the law is very hypocritical of you.</FONT></P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 16:28:11 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185407#M930183sp3622019-09-25T16:28:11ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185428#M930196
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="12058111"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><P class="1569432086189">&nbsp;</P><BR /><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT face="arial black,avant garde">Do you not understand that the DNI is in violation of the law by not releasing the whistle blower complaint?&nbsp; Why are you so anxious to give away your freedoms?&nbsp; If you want to live in a Dictatorship, go ahead; but, don't expect the rest of us to.</FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT face="arial black,avant garde">BTW, you do realize that the majority of Americans expect Congress to actually have due diligence in their oversight duties?&nbsp; That should be the lesson learned from 2018.&nbsp; </FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT face="arial black,avant garde">To not acknowledge that what is going on is a violation of the law is very hypocritical of you.</FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="7" color="#FF0000"><STRONG><FONT face="arial black,avant garde">It is a waste&nbsp; of time to try to have a Trump follower understand, evaluate the seriousness of the situation If they were capable of doing so. they would be extremely worried and as you can see they call it a nothing burger, I imagine that they are wishing very hard for that to be so.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 17:23:04 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185428#M930196Roxanna352019-09-25T17:23:04ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185434#M930199
Jim posted..<BR /><BR />So carry on everybody! Keep doing what you are doing and watch the Independents teach you once again!!<BR /><BR />=======================================================<BR /><BR />The full transcript has been released and Ms Pelois has egg on her face as there was no smoking gun.<BR /><BR />Like I was told over and over again in the Army "do not anticipate the command"... Ms Pelosi anticipated something that was not there. She gave the GOP ammunition for next years elections.<BR /><BR />"Anticipating something" also often implies that you are preparing to take some action because of your expectations — like when you anticipate your chess opponent's next move and plan a counterattack. The word anticipate can also mean "to come beforehand" — as in a certain musical trend anticipating another.<BR /><BR />Wed, 25 Sep 2019 17:40:59 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185434#M930199KidBoy22019-09-25T17:40:59ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185436#M930200
Independant here my friend, what I am watching is a White House FULL of corruption. Needs to be impeached. Imagine for one minute if this had happened under President Obama, he would have been impeached in days, or less......heads would have rolled!! .Trump deserves what he gets, hopefully impeachment followed by jail time!!!Wed, 25 Sep 2019 17:51:39 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185436#M930200Tom56782019-09-25T17:51:39ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185437#M930201
the transcript was a SUMMARY. What Congress needs to see before it's doctored by Barr, is the whistle blowers complaint.Wed, 25 Sep 2019 17:52:43 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185437#M930201Tom56782019-09-25T17:52:43ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185442#M930202
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="739192"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />Jim posted..<BR /><BR />So carry on everybody! Keep doing what you are doing and watch the Independents teach you once again!!<BR /><BR />=======================================================<BR /><BR />The full transcript has been released and Ms Pelois has egg on her face as there was no smoking gun.<BR /><BR />Like I was told over and over again in the Army "do not anticipate the command"... Ms Pelosi anticipated something that was not there. She gave the GOP ammunition for next years elections.<BR /><BR />"Anticipating something" also often implies that you are preparing to take some action because of your expectations — like when you anticipate your chess opponent's next move and plan a counterattack. The word anticipate can also mean "to come beforehand" — as in a certain musical trend anticipating another.<BR /><BR /><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I<FONT size="6" color="#FF0000"><STRONG>t is difficult for me to believe that Trump folowers really believe that anything that has happened is ok and of no importance. Well, I guess that they will be&nbsp; on egg on their face when the inquiries now are not going to be what they are accostumed to seeing and the small impct that they have have in the public. Things have changed big. and they don't underatand how much. The tools that they have now were not the same tools that they have before, and now they will use them all.&nbsp;</STRONG></FONT></P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 18:00:28 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185442#M930202Roxanna352019-09-25T18:00:28ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185446#M930205
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="81721"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="739192"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />Jim posted..<BR /><BR />So carry on everybody! Keep doing what you are doing and watch the Independents teach you once again!!<BR /><BR />=======================================================<BR /><BR />The full transcript has been released and Ms Pelois has egg on her face as there was no smoking gun.<BR /><BR />Like I was told over and over again in the Army "do not anticipate the command"... Ms Pelosi anticipated something that was not there. She gave the GOP ammunition for next years elections.<BR /><BR />"Anticipating something" also often implies that you are preparing to take some action because of your expectations — like when you anticipate your chess opponent's next move and plan a counterattack. The word anticipate can also mean "to come beforehand" — as in a certain musical trend anticipating another.<BR /><BR /><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7">I<FONT color="#FF0000"><STRONG>t is difficult for me to believe that Trump folowers really believe that anything that has happened is ok and of no importance. Well, I guess that they will be&nbsp; on egg on their face when the inquiries now are not going to be what they are accostumed to seeing and the small impct that they have have in the public. Things have changed big. and they don't underatand how much. The tools that they have now were not the same tools that they have before, and now they will use them all.&nbsp;</STRONG></FONT></FONT></P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>TOO FUNNY&nbsp;<LI-USER uid="81721"></LI-USER>&nbsp;...</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Please identify " the high crimes and misdemeanors" President Trump has committed. &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Speaker Pelosi does not have enough votes to start Impeachment proceedings. &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>It's a repeat of the Mueller report... Nothing burger!&nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>You folks really need to get over yourselves.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>I get it, you don't like him but you have no proof of any crime that rises to the level of impeachment. &nbsp;Let it go and vote in 2020.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 18:09:48 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185446#M930205jimc912019-09-25T18:09:48ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185449#M930207
Clueless, like our President is all I can say. Just clueless...How sad.Wed, 25 Sep 2019 18:12:23 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185449#M930207Tom56782019-09-25T18:12:23ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185451#M930208
rker posted..<BR /><BR />It is difficult for me to believe that Trump folowers really believe that anything that has happened is ok and of no importance. Well, I guess that they will be on egg on their face when the inquiries now are not going to be what they are accostumed to seeing and the small impct that they have have in the public. Things have changed big. and they don't underatand how much. The tools that they have now were not the same tools that they have before, and now they will use them all.<BR /><BR />==================================================================<BR /><BR />"It is difficult for me to believe that Trump folowers really believe that anything that has happened is ok and of no importance."<BR /><BR />What are you talking about? This thread is " Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcript"<BR /><BR />Wed, 25 Sep 2019 18:16:03 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185451#M930208KidBoy22019-09-25T18:16:03ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185452#M930209
<P>Here you go Jim:</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><A href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-releases-ukraine-call-summary_n_5d88f15ee4b0d269465251ea" target="_self">A phone call full of corruption.</A></P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 18:16:16 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185452#M930209Tom56782019-09-25T18:16:16ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185459#M930212
<P><FONT size="5">Meet the dumbest criminals on the planet. ROFL</FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG><FONT size="5">White House inadvertently sends Ukraine talking points to Democrats</FONT></STRONG></P><P><A href="https://thehill.com/homenews/house/463013-white-house-inadvertently-sends-ukraine-talking-points-to-democrats" target="_self">https://thehill.com/homenews/house/463013-white-house-inadvertently-sends-ukraine-talking-points-to-democrats</A></P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 18:26:25 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185459#M930212Panjandrum2019-09-25T18:26:25ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185460#M930213
<P>Thanks Jim, we sure will and will look forward to moving more fascist repubs, that blindly follow the authoritarian</P><P>trump, out of office.&nbsp;</P><P>This release was only an edited memo, why not include the whole conversation?</P><P>Hiding something!</P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 18:31:35 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185460#M930213williamb391982019-09-25T18:31:35ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185461#M930214
<P>jimc91:&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Another nothing burger compliments of the dimms that lost the 2016 election...</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5">Trump asks Ukraine to investigate his political rival while holding back money Ukraine needs for defense and you think that's a "nothingburger"? What it is is an impeachable offense, and this was no doubt the least incriminating thing they could find to give the Democrats. God only knows what will come to light when the whistleblower gets to talk.</FONT></P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 18:33:18 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185461#M930214Panjandrum2019-09-25T18:33:18ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185463#M930215
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Another nothing burger compliments of the dimms that lost the 2016 election...</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4" color="#0000FF"><EM><STRONG>Another bogus claim by a poster who claimed there would be a RED Wave in 2018...</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Its time to return control of the House to Republicans and get on with moving the country forward. &nbsp;<FONT color="#0000FF">Wrong again....&nbsp; The country could continue to move forward if the GOP weren't sitting on so many Hosue approved legislation....</FONT></STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>The 2020 election is going to be easier that I thought all because the dimms learned absolutely nothing from the 2016 election.&nbsp;&nbsp;<FONT color="#0000FF">The country learned how ignorant and horrible the Cons were, as illustrated in the 2018 elections.&nbsp; I hope most are as complacent as you.....trump sure isn't....</FONT></STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>So carry on everybody! &nbsp;<FONT color="#0000FF">Well, gee.....thanks!&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT>Keep doing what you are doing and watch the Independents teach you once again!!&nbsp;&nbsp;<FONT color="#0000FF">Yep, indeed!&nbsp; Surf's up!!!</FONT></STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG><FONT color="#0000FF"><IMG src="https://media1.tenor.com/images/ddb3a6a8b691a03426dcfaa53d9695a8/tenor.gif?itemid=10567456" border="0" alt="Blue Mega GIF - Blue Mega Eagle GIFs" width="502" height="510" /></FONT></STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 18:38:52 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185463#M930215Centristsin20102019-09-25T18:38:52ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185465#M930216
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="2462198"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />Independant here my friend, what I am watching is a White House FULL of corruption. Needs to be impeached. Imagine for one minute if this had happened under President Obama, he would have been impeached in days, or less......heads would have rolled!! .Trump deserves what he gets, hopefully impeachment followed by jail time!!!<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="4" color="#0000FF">Independent here as well, Tom.&nbsp; Have voted Republican many times, but never Conseravtive moron.</FONT></P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 18:43:23 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185465#M930216Centristsin20102019-09-25T18:43:23ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185468#M930219
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="2462198"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P>Here you go Jim:</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><A href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-releases-ukraine-call-summary_n_5d88f15ee4b0d269465251ea" target="_self">A phone call full of corruption.</A></P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Again TOO FUNNY!!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Spell it out!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Where are the "High Crimes &amp; Misdemeanors" that you think the President has committed that rises to the level of impeachment???</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>You guys have nothing but wishful thinking.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Get over yourselves and move on. &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>You get another bite at the apple in 2020 unless the dimms continue to squander it by continuing to bore the American voters that are already weary of their Trump Derangement Syndrome...</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Move on...</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 18:46:24 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185468#M930219jimc912019-09-25T18:46:24ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185470#M930220
<P><FONT color="#0000FF">I'm surprised how some want others to be as ignorant as they are and ignore the facts and destroy our beloved democracy.&nbsp; Shame on them and their "burger".</FONT></P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 18:49:02 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185470#M930220Centristsin20102019-09-25T18:49:02ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185474#M930222
brings new meaning to the term ignorant!!!!Wed, 25 Sep 2019 18:59:29 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185474#M930222Tom56782019-09-25T18:59:29ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185476#M930224
<P><FONT size="4"><STRONG>BY: &nbsp;Amber Athey</STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Prior to releasing the transcript of his call with the Ukrainian president, President Donald Trump commented several times on the content of the transcript. Now that it’s out, how do these statements measure up?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The White House <A href="https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/25/released-transcript-donald-trump-joe-biden-ukraine/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">released the un-redacted transcript</A> after Democrats pushed for impeachment against the president, claiming that he threatened to withhold aid from Ukraine until the country launched an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden. Trump previously admitted that he asked for an investigation into Biden, but denied that he dangled military aid in a quid pro quo arrangement.</P><DIV class="ad">&nbsp;</DIV><P>Here are the following public statements Trump made about the call, and whether or not they were confirmed by the transcript:</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN><STRONG>On Asking For Investigation Of</STRONG><STRONG> Biden:</STRONG></SPAN> <STRONG>“</STRONG><STRONG>The conversation I had was largely congratulatory. It was largely corruption—all of the corruption taking place. It was largely the fact that we don’t want our people, like Vice President Biden and his son, creating to [sic] the corruption already in the Ukraine.”</STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The transcript of the call confirms that Trump asked Ukranian President Volodymyr Zelensky multiple times to investigate why Biden pressured Ukraine into firing a prosecutor that was looking into his son’s business ties. Hunter Biden sat on the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian oil company, and was <A href="https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/05/biden-ukraine-burisma-trump/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">receiving</A> $50,000 a month when the prosecutor was fired. Biden bragged about withholding a $1 billion loan from Ukraine until they agreed to oust the prosecutor, but Ukraine has previously said there isn’t evidence that he did so to protect the business paying his son.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Trump said on the call, “There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it … It sounds horrible to me.”</P><DIV class="ad" align="center">&nbsp;</DIV><P>The call also revealed that the situation was first brought up by Zelensky with his mention of Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who had previously traveled to Ukraine to look into Biden’s dealings.</P><P>“I will personally tell you that one of my assistants spoke with Mr. Giuliani just recently and we are hoping very much that Mr. Giuliani will be able to travel to Ukraine,” Zelensky said.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG><SPAN>On A Quid Pro Quo Arrangement:</SPAN> “I did not make a statement that you have to do this or I won’t give you aid.”</STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Nowhere in the transcript does the <A href="https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/23/trump-floats-releasing-transcript-disputed-call-ukraine/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">president mention</A> withholding hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to Zelensky, and not in the context of investigating Biden. Early in the call, Trump does signal that the “United States has been very good to Ukraine” in terms of providing aid.</P><DIV class="ad">&nbsp;</DIV><P>In what Democrats are citing as proof of a “quid pro quo” arrangement, Zelenksy brings up that the Ukraine would like to purchase more U.S. military equipment, and Trump responds by asking for an investigation into 2016 election meddling.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>“We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes,” Zelensky says.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Trump replies, “I would like you to do us a favor though,” and proceeds to ask Zelensky if he will investigate the private security firm Crowdstrike and other allegations that Ukraine may have been involved in election meddling. The “favor” does not appear to be connected to the Biden investigation as previously claimed.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN><STRONG>On Withholding Military Aid From Ukraine:</STRONG></SPAN><STRONG> “</STRONG><STRONG>My complaint has always been, and I’d withhold again, and I will continue to withhold until such time as Europe and other nations contribute to Ukraine”</STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Trump claimed on Tuesday that he <A href="https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/24/trump-withheld-ukraine-aid-europe/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">withheld military aid</A> from Ukraine because he wanted to pressure other European countries into paying their fair share. During the call, the president did indeed bring up other countries’ lack of support for Ukraine in the context of U.S. aid.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>“We spend a lot of effort and a lot of time,” Trump said. “Much more than the European countries are doing and they should be helping you more than they are. Germany does almost nothing for you.”</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="6"><STRONG>Quid No Show!!</STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>You guys are JUST TOO FUNNY!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 19:01:22 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185476#M930224jimc912019-09-25T19:01:22ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185477#M930225
<P>Once again, the poster posts ANOTHER....</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><IMG src="https://bigjolly.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/texas-legislature-nothing-burger.jpg" border="0" alt="Image result for nothing burger" /></P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 19:04:40 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185477#M930225Centristsin20102019-09-25T19:04:40ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185478#M930226
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="81721"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="739192"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />Jim posted..<BR /><BR /><BR /><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7">I<FONT color="#FF0000"><STRONG>t is difficult for me to believe that Trump folowers really believe that anything that has happened is ok and of no importance. Well, I guess that they will be&nbsp; on egg on their face when the inquiries now are not going to be what they are accostumed to seeing and the small impct that they have have in the public. Things have changed big. and they don't underatand how much. The tools that they have now were not the same tools that they have before, and now they will use them all.&nbsp;</STRONG></FONT></FONT></P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>TOO FUNNY&nbsp;<LI-USER uid="81721"></LI-USER>&nbsp;...</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Please identify " the high crimes and misdemeanors" President Trump has committed.&nbsp; <FONT color="#FF0000">&nbsp;Subonation of the Consitution by having a foreign power investigate a politcal figure.</FONT></STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Speaker Pelosi does not have enough votes to start Impeachment proceedings.&nbsp; <FONT color="#FF0000">She will by the end of the day, the count stands as of now 214 needed 218</FONT></STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>It's a repeat of the Mueller report... Nothing burger!&nbsp;<FONT color="#FF0000"> Really? the Democrats never engaged the tools that they had before, now it seems that they are doing just that</FONT></STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>You folks really need to get over yourselves.<FONT size="6" color="#FF0000"> I agree, you folks need to get over yourselves</FONT></STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>I get it, you don't like him but you have no proof of any crime that rises to the level of impeachment. &nbsp;Let it go and vote in 2020.&nbsp; </STRONG><FONT color="#FF0000"><STRONG>REally and who told you that?&nbsp; Trump? or Juliani?</STRONG>&nbsp;</FONT></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 19:07:48 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185478#M930226Roxanna352019-09-25T19:07:48ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185488#M930234
<P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Despite hours of breathless media coverage regarding President Trump’s 33-minute phone conversation with the leader of Ukraine last July, key facts and important issues are completely ignored by major news networks.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>The Democrat-fueled fantasy is now causing renewed calls for impeachment, including Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and more than 200 liberal lawmakers.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Claim: The President “promised” Ukraine financial or military aid in exchange for political dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Fact: The official transcript reveals no promise was ever made during the entire conversation.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Claim: The President demanded Ukrainian officials work with Rudy Giuliani and the Attorney General to investigate Joe Biden.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Fact: Joe Biden’s name came-up TWICE -in the same paragraph- during a 33-minute conversation. Giuliani and Barr were mentioned in just one exchange.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>“The other thing, There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son,. that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. </STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it… It sounds horrible to me,” said Trump during the call.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 19:48:41 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185488#M930234jimc912019-09-25T19:48:41ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185496#M930236
<P><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;</P><P>Once again, what was released was an edited memo of the call from the WH...</P><P>not a complete unredacted transcript of the call...wasn’t that what trump said that he would provide?</P><P>I’ve also asked before, what precisely does “dimms” mean...not derogatory is it, I hope.&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 20:03:08 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185496#M930236williamb391982019-09-25T20:03:08ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185501#M930239
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><FONT size="4"><STRONG>BY: &nbsp;Amber Athey</STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Prior to releasing the transcript of his call with the Ukrainian president, President Donald Trump commented several times on the content of the transcript. Now that it’s out, how do these statements measure up?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The White House <A href="https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/25/released-transcript-donald-trump-joe-biden-ukraine/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">released the un-redacted transcript</A> after Democrats pushed for impeachment against the president, claiming that he threatened to withhold aid from Ukraine until the country launched an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden. Trump previously admitted that he asked for an investigation into Biden, but denied that he dangled military aid in a quid pro quo arrangement.</P><DIV class="ad">&nbsp;</DIV><P>Here are the following public statements Trump made about the call, and whether or not they were confirmed by the transcript:</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN><STRONG>On Asking For Investigation Of</STRONG><STRONG> Biden:</STRONG></SPAN> <STRONG>“</STRONG><STRONG>The conversation I had was largely congratulatory. It was largely corruption—all of the corruption taking place. It was largely the fact that we don’t want our people, like Vice President Biden and his son, creating to [sic] the corruption already in the Ukraine.”</STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The transcript of the call confirms that Trump asked Ukranian President Volodymyr Zelensky multiple times to investigate why Biden pressured Ukraine into firing a prosecutor that was looking into his son’s business ties. Hunter Biden sat on the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian oil company, and was <A href="https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/05/biden-ukraine-burisma-trump/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">receiving</A> $50,000 a month when the prosecutor was fired. Biden bragged about withholding a $1 billion loan from Ukraine until they agreed to oust the prosecutor, but Ukraine has previously said there isn’t evidence that he did so to protect the business paying his son.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Trump said on the call, “There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it … It sounds horrible to me.”</P><DIV class="ad" align="center">&nbsp;</DIV><P>The call also revealed that the situation was first brought up by Zelensky with his mention of Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who had previously traveled to Ukraine to look into Biden’s dealings.</P><P>“I will personally tell you that one of my assistants spoke with Mr. Giuliani just recently and we are hoping very much that Mr. Giuliani will be able to travel to Ukraine,” Zelensky said.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG><SPAN>On A Quid Pro Quo Arrangement:</SPAN> “I did not make a statement that you have to do this or I won’t give you aid.”</STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Nowhere in the transcript does the <A href="https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/23/trump-floats-releasing-transcript-disputed-call-ukraine/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">president mention</A> withholding hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to Zelensky, and not in the context of investigating Biden. Early in the call, Trump does signal that the “United States has been very good to Ukraine” in terms of providing aid.</P><DIV class="ad">&nbsp;</DIV><P>In what Democrats are citing as proof of a “quid pro quo” arrangement, Zelenksy brings up that the Ukraine would like to purchase more U.S. military equipment, and Trump responds by asking for an investigation into 2016 election meddling.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>“We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes,” Zelensky says.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Trump replies, “I would like you to do us a favor though,” and proceeds to ask Zelensky if he will investigate the private security firm Crowdstrike and other allegations that Ukraine may have been involved in election meddling. The “favor” does not appear to be connected to the Biden investigation as previously claimed.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN><STRONG>On Withholding Military Aid From Ukraine:</STRONG></SPAN><STRONG> “</STRONG><STRONG>My complaint has always been, and I’d withhold again, and I will continue to withhold until such time as Europe and other nations contribute to Ukraine”</STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Trump claimed on Tuesday that he <A href="https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/24/trump-withheld-ukraine-aid-europe/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">withheld military aid</A> from Ukraine because he wanted to pressure other European countries into paying their fair share. During the call, the president did indeed bring up other countries’ lack of support for Ukraine in the context of U.S. aid.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>“We spend a lot of effort and a lot of time,” Trump said. “Much more than the European countries are doing and they should be helping you more than they are. Germany does almost nothing for you.”</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="6"><STRONG>Quid No Show!!</STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>You guys are JUST TOO FUNNY!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>You once again use a writer from a far right source, and that source has never told the full truthful story on anything, and does not this time. First you have to understand how Trump works to give an answer to the authors fairy tale which by the way is true on what was said part, but totally untrue to the subject. Trump has lived in and always operated his business as a mob with Trump as the Mob Boss. That means his&nbsp;lackeys do what they are told, cover for the leader, and take the fall. On big items it is usually broken down in to parts and you can have different&nbsp;lackeys working different parts. To get the total picture you have to put all parts together. By going this route the Mob Boss makes it harder for law enforcement to understand and&nbsp;prosecute what went on. That is what is going on with this. Anyone who expected the phone call to supply all the information to send the Mob Boss to jail knows little or understand little about the Mob.The phone call proved that Trump (Mob Boss) spoke to the U Pres. and asked the Bidens be looked at.&nbsp; Now another part which Rudy handled will contain by my best&nbsp;reading the part about the Aid cut off and the Mob Boss&nbsp;interest in getting some help for 2020. Rudy knows&nbsp; how to handle that as he at one time sent the Mob people, and Bosses to jail for the Feds. When people who know something about the total subject you then get an answer about the total subject, and there seems to be some of&nbsp;those type people working this case and that could be terrifying to the Mob. Boss. His enablers like Amber and her readers and believers are not part of that group as you all can see.</P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 20:10:46 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185501#M930239john2582019-09-25T20:10:46ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185510#M930241
as we speak the original whistle blower complaint is being viewed at by the House Intell, and Senate Intell. committees. Predictable how the Senate response will be I think.Wed, 25 Sep 2019 20:56:17 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185510#M930241Tom56782019-09-25T20:56:17ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185513#M930242
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Despite hours of breathless media coverage regarding President Trump’s 33-minute phone conversation with the leader of Ukraine last July, key facts and important issues are completely ignored by major news networks.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>The Democrat-fueled fantasy is now causing renewed calls for impeachment, including Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and more than 200 liberal lawmakers.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Claim: The President “promised” Ukraine financial or military aid in exchange for political dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Fact: The official transcript reveals no promise was ever made during the entire conversation.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Claim: The President demanded Ukrainian officials work with Rudy Giuliani and the Attorney General to investigate Joe Biden.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Fact: Joe Biden’s name came-up TWICE -in the same paragraph- during a 33-minute conversation. Giuliani and Barr were mentioned in just one exchange.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>“The other thing, There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son,. that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. </STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it… It sounds horrible to me,” said Trump during the call.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="7" color="#FF0000"><STRONG>Really? Joe Biden is not being impeached, is Trump that is being impeach get it?</STRONG></FONT></P>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 21:03:16 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185513#M930242Roxanna352019-09-25T21:03:16ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185576#M930255
<P><FONT size="4"><STRONG>BY: &nbsp;Sean Davis</STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>If the latest media-manufactured hysteria over President Donald Trump’s interactions with the Ukrainian government looks familiar, it’s because it is. The same tired playbook is being run by the same discredited people with the same goal: get rid of Trump, by any means necessary.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Just as the Clinton campaign, Obama administration holdovers, and complicit media allies peddled lies about Russian collusion while <A href="https://thefederalist.com/2019/03/28/campaign-colluded-russians-2016-hillary-clintons/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">engaging in literal Russian collusion during and after the 2016 presidential campaign</A>, so too did Joseph Biden literally threaten to withhold money from Ukraine if it failed to fire the prosecutor investigating his son’s company.</P><DIV><DIV class="perma-ad-wrapper"><P>&nbsp;</P><P>To hear the media tell it, Trump committed treason. The walls are closing in. The end is nigh. Why? Well, the details there are a little fuzzy, as they always seem to be. Somebody heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from another that Trump had threatened Ukraine that it must investigate Hunter Biden, the troubled son of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden…or else.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The media initially hyped their latest faux scandal by claiming a deeply connected “whistleblower” listened to a phone call between Trump and the head of Ukraine’s government, in which Trump allegedly threatened to withhold money if the Eastern European nation failed to investigate allegations of corruption by Hunter Biden. Then it morphed into the source reading a transcript or readout of the phone call. And eventually it was <A href="https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/20/politics/donald-trump-whistleblower/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">buried in the 22nd paragraph of a breathless CNN story</A> that the alleged “whistleblower” hadn’t in fact directly read or seen or heard anything he or she was allegedly blowing the whistle on:</P><BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The whistleblower didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications, an official briefed on the matter told CNN. Instead, the whistleblower’s concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration’s determination that the complaint didn’t fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said.</P></BLOCKQUOTE><P>There’s burying the lede, and then there’s fitting the lede for cement boots, pushing it down an elevator shaft into a pool of bullets, and then tossing the remains overboard somewhere over the Marianas Trench. CNN opted for the latter. One man’s “whistleblower” is apparently another man’s rumor-monger or anonymous gossip columnist. The Wall Street Journal later <A href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-defends-conversation-with-ukraine-leader-11568993176" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">disclosed</A> that there was no quid pro quo and no discussion of U.S. financial aid during the call the whistleblower **bleep** axe-grinder never even heard.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>On Sunday, Trump did admit that he raised the topic of Biden and his son Hunter with the Ukrainian president within the context of needing to root out corruption in Ukraine, which raises all sorts of questions Democrats and their media allies would desperately like to avoid, such as: did Hunter Biden have sketchy business dealings in Ukraine? Did he benefit financially from those arrangements? Were any Ukrainian companies he worked for being investigated? Did his father, as the vice president of the United States, personally intervene to shut down Ukrainian officials who were investigating Hunter Biden’s Ukrainian business arrangements?</P><DIV><DIV class="perma-ad-wrapper"><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The answer to all those questions is a resounding YES. Despite being kicked out of the Navy for cocaine abuse and having no demonstrable business acumen, Hunter Biden nonetheless in 2014 <A href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/08/will-hunter-biden-jeopardize-his-fathers-campaign" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">landed a $50,000 per month gig on the board of Burisma</A>, a Ukrainian oil and gas concern.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Coincidentally, the law firm that helped arrange the sinecure, Boies Schiller, previously hired Fusion GPS, the shady opposition research firm retained by the Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee to concoct the Russian collusion hoax, to run interference for Theranos, the infamous fake blood testing company whose founder was charged with wire fraud.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>When Burisma later attracted the attention of Ukrainian law enforcement, Joe Biden personally intervened to make sure Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor looking into the company’s finances, was fired. You don’t have to take my word for this, because Joe Biden bragged about his efforts to fire the prosecutor investigating the company that paid Hunter Biden a $50,000 per month sinecure. On camera. In detail. Last year (the specific statement from Biden begins at 52:20 in the video):</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P><P>And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev. And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn’t.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him. (Laughter.) I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a **bleep**. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.</P></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><DIV class="perma-ad-wrapper"><P>Well, then.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The similarities between the anti-Trump Russian collusion operation and the fledgling anti-Trump Ukraine operation are eerie. If not for the utter implosion of the Russian collusion nonsense, culminating in a two-year special counsel investigation run by anti-Trump partisans that nonetheless found zero collusion, the Ukraine operation might almost be believable.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The thinly sourced rumors, the bombshell evidence that was always just around the next corner, the hyperventilating media coverage, the demands for ever more invasive investigative enemas from left-wing lawmakers like Reps. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) and Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), the fact that the alleged crimes were all committed not by Trump, but by his political opponents. If we hadn’t already been shown this same movie over and over and over again for three years, it might actually be interesting.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Instead, it’s just another manufactured narrative peddled by partisans desperate to prevent anyone from shining a spotlight on their own shenanigans. Just as the Russian collusion conspiracy begins and ends with Hillary Clinton, the Ukraine corruption scandal begins and ends with Joe and Hunter Biden. And just as they did with the investigation of the Russia hoax, their media allies will do everything in their power to make sure that evidence never sees the light of day.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 23:42:30 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185576#M930255jimc912019-09-25T23:42:30ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185584#M930260
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><FONT size="4"><STRONG>BY: &nbsp;Sean Davis</STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>If the latest media-manufactured hysteria over President Donald Trump’s interactions with the Ukrainian government looks familiar, it’s because it is. The same tired playbook is being run by the same discredited people with the same goal: get rid of Trump, by any means necessary.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Just as the Clinton campaign, Obama administration holdovers, and complicit media allies peddled lies about Russian collusion while <A href="https://thefederalist.com/2019/03/28/campaign-colluded-russians-2016-hillary-clintons/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">engaging in literal Russian collusion during and after the 2016 presidential campaign</A>, so too did Joseph Biden literally threaten to withhold money from Ukraine if it failed to fire the prosecutor investigating his son’s company.</P><DIV><DIV class="perma-ad-wrapper"><P>&nbsp;</P><P>To hear the media tell it, Trump committed treason. The walls are closing in. The end is nigh. Why? Well, the details there are a little fuzzy, as they always seem to be. Somebody heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from another that Trump had threatened Ukraine that it must investigate Hunter Biden, the troubled son of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden…or else.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The media initially hyped their latest faux scandal by claiming a deeply connected “whistleblower” listened to a phone call between Trump and the head of Ukraine’s government, in which Trump allegedly threatened to withhold money if the Eastern European nation failed to investigate allegations of corruption by Hunter Biden. Then it morphed into the source reading a transcript or readout of the phone call. And eventually it was <A href="https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/20/politics/donald-trump-whistleblower/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">buried in the 22nd paragraph of a breathless CNN story</A> that the alleged “whistleblower” hadn’t in fact directly read or seen or heard anything he or she was allegedly blowing the whistle on:</P><BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The whistleblower didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications, an official briefed on the matter told CNN. Instead, the whistleblower’s concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration’s determination that the complaint didn’t fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said.</P></BLOCKQUOTE><P>There’s burying the lede, and then there’s fitting the lede for cement boots, pushing it down an elevator shaft into a pool of bullets, and then tossing the remains overboard somewhere over the Marianas Trench. CNN opted for the latter. One man’s “whistleblower” is apparently another man’s rumor-monger or anonymous gossip columnist. The Wall Street Journal later <A href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-defends-conversation-with-ukraine-leader-11568993176" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">disclosed</A> that there was no quid pro quo and no discussion of U.S. financial aid during the call the whistleblower **bleep** axe-grinder never even heard.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>On Sunday, Trump did admit that he raised the topic of Biden and his son Hunter with the Ukrainian president within the context of needing to root out corruption in Ukraine, which raises all sorts of questions Democrats and their media allies would desperately like to avoid, such as: did Hunter Biden have sketchy business dealings in Ukraine? Did he benefit financially from those arrangements? Were any Ukrainian companies he worked for being investigated? Did his father, as the vice president of the United States, personally intervene to shut down Ukrainian officials who were investigating Hunter Biden’s Ukrainian business arrangements?</P><DIV><DIV class="perma-ad-wrapper"><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The answer to all those questions is a resounding YES. Despite being kicked out of the Navy for cocaine abuse and having no demonstrable business acumen, Hunter Biden nonetheless in 2014 <A href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/08/will-hunter-biden-jeopardize-his-fathers-campaign" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">landed a $50,000 per month gig on the board of Burisma</A>, a Ukrainian oil and gas concern.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Coincidentally, the law firm that helped arrange the sinecure, Boies Schiller, previously hired Fusion GPS, the shady opposition research firm retained by the Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee to concoct the Russian collusion hoax, to run interference for Theranos, the infamous fake blood testing company whose founder was charged with wire fraud.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>When Burisma later attracted the attention of Ukrainian law enforcement, Joe Biden personally intervened to make sure Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor looking into the company’s finances, was fired. You don’t have to take my word for this, because Joe Biden bragged about his efforts to fire the prosecutor investigating the company that paid Hunter Biden a $50,000 per month sinecure. On camera. In detail. Last year (the specific statement from Biden begins at 52:20 in the video):</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P><P>And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev. And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn’t.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him. (Laughter.) I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a **bleep**. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.</P></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><DIV class="perma-ad-wrapper"><P>Well, then.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The similarities between the anti-Trump Russian collusion operation and the fledgling anti-Trump Ukraine operation are eerie. If not for the utter implosion of the Russian collusion nonsense, culminating in a two-year special counsel investigation run by anti-Trump partisans that nonetheless found zero collusion, the Ukraine operation might almost be believable.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The thinly sourced rumors, the bombshell evidence that was always just around the next corner, the hyperventilating media coverage, the demands for ever more invasive investigative enemas from left-wing lawmakers like Reps. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) and Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), the fact that the alleged crimes were all committed not by Trump, but by his political opponents. If we hadn’t already been shown this same movie over and over and over again for three years, it might actually be interesting.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Instead, it’s just another manufactured narrative peddled by partisans desperate to prevent anyone from shining a spotlight on their own shenanigans. Just as the Russian collusion conspiracy begins and ends with Hillary Clinton, the Ukraine corruption scandal begins and ends with Joe and Hunter Biden. And just as they did with the investigation of the Russia hoax, their media allies will do everything in their power to make sure that evidence never sees the light of day.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Still at it. You better read one of the support articles your author uses as they are pro Biden and anti Trump. The first support articles has nothing to do with this subject. Once again the author took 2 different stories which were true at the time written and cherry picked them to come up with something that is not true. The Trump supporters are really getting desperate with all the real news&nbsp;coming out. Well at least this time you did not start a new thread so that I guess is progress. Now some big news. Rudy has been telling us the State Dept. asked him to get involved. This evening the State Dept. put out a memo saying they did not, and Rudy was not telling the truth. There is more but I will wait for the next attempted&nbsp;diversion for that. Now Rudy will be called to&nbsp;testify about this when the hearings start. No wounder Rudy broke up the other night on CNN, and on FOX a few times today. Rudy knows how the Mob works, and he could be caught in it.</P>Thu, 26 Sep 2019 00:35:30 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185584#M930260john2582019-09-26T00:35:30ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185616#M930275
<P>There is a report out this evening that the whistle blowers report has been declassified. Lets hope that is true.</P><P>Breaking this evening is the the DNI had&nbsp;referred the complaint to the JD for&nbsp;criminal&nbsp;investigation and action.</P>Thu, 26 Sep 2019 03:25:57 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185616#M930275john2582019-09-26T03:25:57ZRe: Donald Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Call Transcripthttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185646#M930281
<P><EM>It is not about the transcript, it is about THE WHISTLE BLOWER COMPLAINT WHICH THEY LEGALLY COULD NOT BLOCK</EM></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I agree the transcript is a diversion, a distraction.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P>Thu, 26 Sep 2019 10:37:42 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Donald-Trump-Authorizes-Release-of-Ukraine-Phone-Call-Transcript/m-p/2185646#M930281gruffstuff2019-09-26T10:37:42Z