For those that believe Gilbride is a really good coach please ask yourself 1 question

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He utilizes a variation of the 'Run and Shoot' offense, the original conception was designed for a 4 wide set and increase running abilities, his base is normally a Two wide set with the occasional Three, and a one dimensional run game,

he is not a high level Coach, and this Superbowl argument is tiresome, the offense didn't Win the Superbowl or get them into it, the defense got hot and they rode it,

he forces players into his concept which regardless if they won twenty Superbowl's it's an Egotistical way of looking at things, a complex offense for the sake of boasting complexity in the league, you have to be able to adapt to the players and incorporate their strengths and skill sets

He utilizes a variation of the 'Run and Shoot' offense, the original conception was designed for a 4 wide set and increase running abilities, his base is normally a Two wide set with the occasional Three, and a one dimensional run game,

he is not a high level Coach, and this Superbowl argument is tiresome, the offense didn't Win the Superbowl or get them into it, the defense got hot and they rode it,

he forces players into his concept which regardless if they won twenty Superbowl's it's an Egotistical way of looking at things, a complex offense for the sake of boasting complexity in the league, you have to be able to adapt to the players and incorporate their strengths and skill sets

Whose concept should be used?

Last edited by RoanokeFan; 01-04-2013 at 04:27 PM.

“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

He utilizes a variation of the 'Run and Shoot' offense, the original conception was designed for a 4 wide set and increase running abilities, his base is normally a Two wide set with the occasional Three, and a one dimensional run game,

he is not a high level Coach, and this Superbowl argument is tiresome, the offense didn't Win the Superbowl or get them into it, the defense got hot and they rode it,

he forces players into his concept which regardless if they won twenty Superbowl's it's an Egotistical way of looking at things, a complex offense for the sake of boasting complexity in the league, you have to be able to adapt to the players and incorporate their strengths and skill sets

1. The only similarity to the Run and Shoot is sight adjustment routes which EVERYBODY runs. In other words, we do NOT run a variation of the Run and Shoot.

2. Since KG has been our OC, we have had the most prolonged period of offensive success I can remember as a Giants fan. Our offense is more dynamic than it has ever been.

I'm not a huge KG fan because he is (in my view) far too rigid in his philosophy, but there is no doubt that he has been a successful OC for us.

What is your take on why the offense was no good this year, every time someone makes a comment about the OC you guys remind us of how good he is yet you have no explanation why he is good nor do you have any reasoning why our offense struggled. ?? minus a couple of games where we really padded our stats like Saints, Eagles how would you rate our offense and what do you think the reason was.

Remember now Killdrive is a great OC and cannot be replaced and Eli is a future hall of famer, so explain to us haters what the deal is.

This should be very interesting!!! or are you just devil advocates that try to bring balance to the boards ?

Why discount the SB argument? Isn't that the pinnicle of success and what we are trying to acheive? I'd rather win SBs with Gilbride than have the best offense and not win the big one, ala the Patriots.