In 1920 women composed 23.6 percent of the labor force, and 8.3 million women older than the age of fifteen worked outside the home. By 1930 the percentage of women in the work force rose to 27, and their numbers increased to 11 million. World War I had expanded women’s employment in new sectors of the economy, and by 1920, 25.6 percent of employed women worked in white-collar office-staff jobs, 23.8 percent in manufacturing, 18.2 percent in domestic service, and 12.9 percent in agriculture.
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While the first generation of college-educated women entered professions in the 1920s, they found opportunities only in nurturing “women’s professions,” such as nursing, teaching, social work, and, within medicine, pediatrics. And in factories, while male factory workers on federal contracts in 1920 started at forty cents an hour, women started at twenty-five cents.

]]>By: Falmouthhttps://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/11/26/over-the-fiscal-cliff-for-those-people/#comment-4009682
Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:34:10 +0000http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=120621#comment-4009682New information that I have seen discussed somewhere is that healthcare costs have increased less in the last couple of years and are expected to continue to be less than what was used for all these woeful deficit forecasts. So the crux is, just leave Medicare alone and see what effect the ACA has on future costs once it is fully implemented.
]]>By: ThatLeftTurnInABQhttps://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/11/26/over-the-fiscal-cliff-for-those-people/#comment-4009495
Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:21:21 +0000http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=120621#comment-4009495@Kay:

How can you have a “negotiation” if everyone lies about what they want?

Obviously you can’t. Or at least all of the real negotiations are taking place offstage. From what I recall of the history of past empires, it doesn’t bode well for the future success of a society, when it loses the capacity to hash out important issues at least partially in the public forum and instead everything turns on backstage intrigue and palace coups. We haven’t fallen that far just yet, but right now our public debates are all happening in spite of our news media and not because of them.

It drives me crazy. They’re insulting the public. I love the business group that wants a “territorial tax” pretending they give a rat’s ass about Social Security solvency. They want Romney tax changes, they lost the election and they see an opening. “We’re concerned about the deficit!” Sure you are.

How can you have a “negotiation” if everyone lies about what they want?

I have so much trouble with this debate because almost all the participants are covering their ass or have a hidden agenda. You really can’t have an honest negotiation with all these deeply compromised actors. I think there should be a crawl under pundits that says where their income comes from. If your objective is to take SS private, well, SAY THAT.

If we had truth in advertising regaring our punditry, people would be standing in line to throw bricks thru the back window of The Today Show set rather than standing around holding “We luv Justin Bieber” signs and mugging to have their pictures taken with the weatherman. And we can’t be having that now, can we? It would make for Bad TV.

[actually it would make for gripping, compelling, can’t turn it off live trainwreck TV, so shuttupthatswhy].

]]>By: The Moar You Knowhttps://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/11/26/over-the-fiscal-cliff-for-those-people/#comment-4009348
Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:04:43 +0000http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=120621#comment-4009348It’s hilarious to take money from people and then not give them what they paid for. Where’s your sense of humor, libtards?
]]>By: fideliohttps://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/11/26/over-the-fiscal-cliff-for-those-people/#comment-4009338
Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:01:09 +0000http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=120621#comment-4009338I’ve worked in the Social Security Disability program for nearly thirty years now. There was a big rush to get children with disabilities on in the 1990s as the result of welfare reform, but most of those were applicants for Supplemental Security Income payments rather than Social Security–the money for that comes out of a different pot than regular workers’ benefits–the retirement and disability trust funds.

The big increase in workers’ disability beneficiaries comes from two things. One is demographics: the aging out of the baby boomers. Older workers are more likely to be developing severe problems with heart and lung diseases and musculoskeletal disorders and diabetic complications. This gives a big bulge in benficiaries who are very hard to get off the rolls again because of their age–many of these are problems where improvement is unlikely, or where improvement many still result in a profile that would fall under the guideines for disability one way or another. I expect these people will be on until they reach the age for full retirement benefits and are switched over from Disability to Retirement. The second is the economy: we had a huge increase in applicants starting in the fall of 2008. Many of these people answered the question “Why are you not working?” with “The place where I worked went out of business.” If you’re an older worker with less than perfect health it can be really hard to get another job. There’s also the helpfulness of the people in the social welfare system at work–people file for unemployment, and are told they may qualify for food stamps. So they file for food stamps and are told that they might qualify for disability benefits. People who decide to file for early retirement because they don’t feel well enough to continue working are also urged to file for disability benefits, since they’d get more money than if they retired at age 62.

Word from the field offices is that there is a general decline in applications for disability, which is usually a sign that the economy is improving. From what I’ve heard, it varies from state to state, which also supports the improvng economy explanation–things are getting better faster in some places than others.

There’s also been a decrease in the processing of Continuing Disability Reviews because of budgetary problems, so fewer people whose health may have improved enough to allow them to work have been removed from the rolls.

First, note that the coverage decision made in 1935 was not to exclude farm and domestic workers, which, had that been the factual circumstance, might have lent more credence to a charge of racial bias. Rather, the decision was to include only those workers regularly employed in commerce and industry. Thus, the coverage decision also excluded the following.

– Self-employed individuals (including farm proprietors)
– Persons working in the nonprofit sector
– Professionals such as self-employed doctors, lawyers, and ministers
– Seamen in the merchant marine
– Employees of charitable or educational foundations
– Employees of the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals
– Persons aged 65 or older
– Casual laborers
– Members of Congress
– Employees of federal, state, and local governments—everyone from the president of the United States to post office clerks

Indeed, of the 20.1 million gainfully employed workers that the president’s Committee on Economic Security estimated were excluded from participation in the Social Security system, at least 15 million were white.
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It’s an interesting read. I’m not sure how this affects the coverage of women but I suspect a very large number of them were employed by federal, state, and local governments (teachers, etc.).

]]>By: Someguyhttps://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/11/26/over-the-fiscal-cliff-for-those-people/#comment-4009315
Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:52:12 +0000http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=120621#comment-4009315This is all a stupid made up controversy. Let’s ride right off the cliff. What happens – primarily – is everybody has to pay a little more in taxes, the rich have to pay a lot more taxes with the restoration of the Clinton-era rates. We also get huge defense cuts, which are actually needed. The effect on entitlements would be minimal.

I fail to see the harm.

]]>By: General Stuckhttps://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/11/26/over-the-fiscal-cliff-for-those-people/#comment-4009291
Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:38:19 +0000http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=120621#comment-4009291Oh, and one more thing. David Plouffe is a genius. That is all.
]]>By: General Stuckhttps://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/11/26/over-the-fiscal-cliff-for-those-people/#comment-4009249
Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:17:47 +0000http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=120621#comment-4009249@Bruce S:

Dude, you are raging loonatic, that looks to have a massive Banana tree growing out its ass. I didn’t say I was for raising the eligibility age, just that it will be not as bad as would be without the ACA.

There is no sense arguing, discussing, or anything else with you, since your beautiful mind has all the answers and a case of butthurt that is galactic. And saying that medicare is just fine and the problem is really rising healthcare costs is favoring the chicken over the egg. Medicare is the greatest engine that drives healthcare consumption, as it is caring for the sickest among us. And therefore a viable vehicle to ratchet down overall health care costs. It is the premise behind much of the ACA reg framework to lower overall costs. You know. the deathpanel

It is your attitude that nothing should ever be done to entitlement programs to improve them, manage, or otherwise maintain their viability in our national living matrix into the future, that is playing right into right wing memes that liberals are inflexible on their social programs.

Firebaggers don’t realize they live in a democracy and that it must be their way, or the highway. Wonder where that comes from.

Now lets see some more mclaren grade assholishness of a response from your constipated take on politics.

I remember first seeing a 60 minutes episode, back when they really did some good stuff, on how it was one single family–the wine makers Gallo–who were singlehandedly trying to destroy the estate tax in order to benefit themselves. It was mindboggling how naked their attempts were–and I believe they were successful.

]]>By: Bruce Shttps://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/11/26/over-the-fiscal-cliff-for-those-people/#comment-4009198
Tue, 27 Nov 2012 13:51:43 +0000http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=120621#comment-4009198The thing that’s most bizarre and telling about the “fiscal cliff” is that it ratifies almost universally the Keynesian recognition of austerity schemes as disastrous in the midst of a sluggish economy. Proving – after several years of ginned up deficit hysterics – our political discourse is incoherent at best.
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