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Windows User wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:53:46 +1200, Chris Mayhew <> wrote:
>>Can anyone giv me some pointers to solve this. Google doesn't give me
>>any logical solutions for Error 630 (other than check the phone cord, etc.)
>
>
> So it's sent the ATDT to the modem, one of the most basic commands
> that tells the modem to dial
>
> And the modem has come back "no carrier"
>
> If you can use the phone line normally IE to make a phone call then it
> has to be the PC and/or modem
>
Yeah, but which one ? the PC Hardware or OS ? The phone line / cable
works normally and I've tried replacing the modem with a known good one
but have the same problem so presumably it's not the modem but the PC.
I guess the question is, is it some hardware in the PC or the OS (win98)
? I have deleted all the files installed with the modem and then
reinstalled the modem but with out any result. So i'm trying to figure
out if there is some hardware on the MB, like part of the PCI bus that
is only used by a win modem that may have been fried or just the OS

Chris Mayhew wrote:
> Windows User wrote:
>> On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:53:46 +1200, Chris Mayhew <> wrote:
>
>>>Can anyone giv me some pointers to solve this. Google doesn't give me
>>>any logical solutions for Error 630 (other than check the phone cord,
>>>etc.)
>>
>>
>> So it's sent the ATDT to the modem, one of the most basic commands
>> that tells the modem to dial
>>
>> And the modem has come back "no carrier"
>>
>> If you can use the phone line normally IE to make a phone call then it
>> has to be the PC and/or modem
>>
> Yeah, but which one ? the PC Hardware or OS ? The phone line / cable
> works normally and I've tried replacing the modem with a known good one
> but have the same problem so presumably it's not the modem but the PC.
> I guess the question is, is it some hardware in the PC or the OS (win98)
> ? I have deleted all the files installed with the modem and then
> reinstalled the modem but with out any result. So i'm trying to figure
> out if there is some hardware on the MB, like part of the PCI bus that
> is only used by a win modem that may have been fried or just the OS
>
>

Dumb question but have you tried another slot ?
Have you tried dialling the isp with a phone on that jackpoint ?

On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 18:12:18 +1200, Thor <>
wrote:
>Chris Mayhew wrote:
>
>> Windows User wrote:
>>> On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:53:46 +1200, Chris Mayhew <> wrote:
>>
>>>>Can anyone giv me some pointers to solve this. Google doesn't give me
>>>>any logical solutions for Error 630 (other than check the phone cord,
>>>>etc.)
>>>
>>>
>>> So it's sent the ATDT to the modem, one of the most basic commands
>>> that tells the modem to dial
>>>
>>> And the modem has come back "no carrier"
>>>
>>> If you can use the phone line normally IE to make a phone call then it
>>> has to be the PC and/or modem
>>>
>> Yeah, but which one ? the PC Hardware or OS ? The phone line / cable
>> works normally and I've tried replacing the modem with a known good one
>> but have the same problem so presumably it's not the modem but the PC.
>> I guess the question is, is it some hardware in the PC or the OS (win98)
>> ? I have deleted all the files installed with the modem and then
>> reinstalled the modem but with out any result. So i'm trying to figure
>> out if there is some hardware on the MB, like part of the PCI bus that
>> is only used by a win modem that may have been fried or just the OS
>>
>>
>
>Dumb question but have you tried another slot ?
>Have you tried dialling the isp with a phone on that jackpoint ?

If the modem's speaker is turned on can you hear any sound like a dial
tone?

Windows User wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 18:12:18 +1200, Thor <>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Chris Mayhew wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Windows User wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:53:46 +1200, Chris Mayhew <> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Can anyone giv me some pointers to solve this. Google doesn't give me
>>>>>any logical solutions for Error 630 (other than check the phone cord,
>>>>>etc.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>So it's sent the ATDT to the modem, one of the most basic commands
>>>>that tells the modem to dial
>>>>
>>>>And the modem has come back "no carrier"
>>>>
>>>>If you can use the phone line normally IE to make a phone call then it
>>>>has to be the PC and/or modem
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yeah, but which one ? the PC Hardware or OS ? The phone line / cable
>>>works normally and I've tried replacing the modem with a known good one
>>>but have the same problem so presumably it's not the modem but the PC.
>>>I guess the question is, is it some hardware in the PC or the OS (win98)
>>>? I have deleted all the files installed with the modem and then
>>>reinstalled the modem but with out any result. So i'm trying to figure
>>>out if there is some hardware on the MB, like part of the PCI bus that
>>>is only used by a win modem that may have been fried or just the OS
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Dumb question but have you tried another slot ?
>>Have you tried dialling the isp with a phone on that jackpoint ?
>
>
> If the modem's speaker is turned on can you hear any sound like a dial
> tone?
>
I have tried changing slots and tried both modems in both slots. The
slot I changed to had a USB card in it which was working fine. I did
turn up the modems volume to full and can hear it dial but no other
sounds. Actually you don't here a dial tone either. I put some "," in
front of the number but just got a blank period before dialling. The
modem was set to wait for dial tone before dialling. I have used the
same phone cable / jack in another computer which dial's OK on that
computer so I have ruled out a faulty cable / jack. So, the PCI slot
works for other hardware but not a modem so that's why I concluded that
it might be either something to do with the PC hardware that is
particular to win modems or an OS related issue. I have also tried un
installing DUN and re installing it.

> I have tried changing slots and tried both modems in both slots. The
> slot I changed to had a USB card in it which was working fine. I did
> turn up the modems volume to full and can hear it dial but no other
> sounds. Actually you don't here a dial tone either. I put some "," in
> front of the number but just got a blank period before dialling. The
> modem was set to wait for dial tone before dialling. I have used the
> same phone cable / jack in another computer which dial's OK on that
> computer so I have ruled out a faulty cable / jack. So, the PCI slot
> works for other hardware but not a modem so that's why I concluded that
> it might be either something to do with the PC hardware that is
> particular to win modems or an OS related issue. I have also tried un
> installing DUN and re installing it.

for my $0.02
if the modem is dialling out, it is detecting a dial tone.
if you hear the screech as it tries to communicate with the RADIUS
server, that means it connected.
it _may_ not be hearing the response from RADIUS server
if it gets to the authentication stage it _has_ heard the RADIUS servers
requests for info/handshake
if you get authenticated, then kicked, it is very likely a spyware issue
HTH
--

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:24:58 +1200, "Shane (aka froggy)"
<slacker@192.168.0.22> wrote:
>
>> I have tried changing slots and tried both modems in both slots. The
>> slot I changed to had a USB card in it which was working fine. I did
>> turn up the modems volume to full and can hear it dial but no other
>> sounds. Actually you don't here a dial tone either. I put some "," in
>> front of the number but just got a blank period before dialling. The
>> modem was set to wait for dial tone before dialling. I have used the
>> same phone cable / jack in another computer which dial's OK on that
>> computer so I have ruled out a faulty cable / jack. So, the PCI slot
>> works for other hardware but not a modem so that's why I concluded that
>> it might be either something to do with the PC hardware that is
>> particular to win modems or an OS related issue. I have also tried un
>> installing DUN and re installing it.
>
>for my $0.02
>if the modem is dialling out, it is detecting a dial tone.

Modems can be configed to ignore dial tones

Ordinarily with most modems that have speakers you will hear the dial
tone as soon as it takes the line offhook to begin dialing
I have a modem I use here which has no internal speaker
It has a connection to the sound card in the Pc to make its sounds.

This all sounds kind of messy to me since the modem looks like the
faulty part but you have tried a different modem

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:10:05 +1200, FreedomChooser wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:24:58 +1200, "Shane (aka froggy)"
> <slacker@192.168.0.22> wrote:
>
>>
>>> I have tried changing slots and tried both modems in both slots. The
>>> slot I changed to had a USB card in it which was working fine. I did
>>> turn up the modems volume to full and can hear it dial but no other
>>> sounds. Actually you don't here a dial tone either. I put some "," in
>>> front of the number but just got a blank period before dialling. The
>>> modem was set to wait for dial tone before dialling. I have used the
>>> same phone cable / jack in another computer which dial's OK on that
>>> computer so I have ruled out a faulty cable / jack. So, the PCI slot
>>> works for other hardware but not a modem so that's why I concluded that
>>> it might be either something to do with the PC hardware that is
>>> particular to win modems or an OS related issue. I have also tried un
>>> installing DUN and re installing it.
>>
>>for my $0.02
>>if the modem is dialling out, it is detecting a dial tone.
>
> Modems can be configed to ignore dial tones
>
yes But I recall in an earlier post that this was set
to listen for the dial tone

Shane (aka froggy) wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:10:05 +1200, FreedomChooser wrote:
>
>
>>On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:24:58 +1200, "Shane (aka froggy)"
>><slacker@192.168.0.22> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>I have tried changing slots and tried both modems in both slots. The
>>>>slot I changed to had a USB card in it which was working fine. I did
>>>>turn up the modems volume to full and can hear it dial but no other
>>>>sounds. Actually you don't here a dial tone either. I put some "," in
>>>>front of the number but just got a blank period before dialling. The
>>>>modem was set to wait for dial tone before dialling. I have used the
>>>>same phone cable / jack in another computer which dial's OK on that
>>>>computer so I have ruled out a faulty cable / jack. So, the PCI slot
>>>>works for other hardware but not a modem so that's why I concluded that
>>>>it might be either something to do with the PC hardware that is
>>>>particular to win modems or an OS related issue. I have also tried un
>>>>installing DUN and re installing it.
>>>
>>>for my $0.02
>>>if the modem is dialling out, it is detecting a dial tone.
>>
>>Modems can be configed to ignore dial tones
>>
>
> yes But I recall in an earlier post that this was set
> to listen for the dial tone
>
It sounds really stupid...but are you dialing the right number. Maybe you could
try it from the Windows terminal using factory defaults (ATZ followed by
ATDT<radius no.>) and see if the radius server answers. You should get a series
of data packets as the remote server tries to open a PPP connection. You seem to
be using more than the usual number of modem initialisation commands.

Roger_Nickel wrote:
> Shane (aka froggy) wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:10:05 +1200, FreedomChooser wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:24:58 +1200, "Shane (aka froggy)"
>>> <slacker@192.168.0.22> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> I have tried changing slots and tried both modems in both slots.
>>>>> The slot I changed to had a USB card in it which was working fine.
>>>>> I did turn up the modems volume to full and can hear it dial but no
>>>>> other sounds. Actually you don't here a dial tone either. I put
>>>>> some "," in front of the number but just got a blank period before
>>>>> dialling. The modem was set to wait for dial tone before
>>>>> dialling. I have used the same phone cable / jack in another
>>>>> computer which dial's OK on that computer so I have ruled out a
>>>>> faulty cable / jack. So, the PCI slot works for other hardware but
>>>>> not a modem so that's why I concluded that it might be either
>>>>> something to do with the PC hardware that is particular to win
>>>>> modems or an OS related issue. I have also tried un installing DUN
>>>>> and re installing it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> for my $0.02
>>>> if the modem is dialling out, it is detecting a dial tone.
>>>
>>>
>>> Modems can be configed to ignore dial tones
>>>
>>
>> yes But I recall in an earlier post that this was set to listen for
>> the dial tone
>>
> It sounds really stupid...but are you dialing the right number. Maybe
> you could try it from the Windows terminal using factory defaults (ATZ
> followed by ATDT<radius no.>) and see if the radius server answers. You
> should get a series of data packets as the remote server tries to open a
> PPP connection. You seem to be using more than the usual number of modem
> initialisation commands.
Another thing that occurs to me is that it could be a software problem and that
you have been mislead by a coincidental storm. Maybe try reinstalling DUN and
the modem drivers.

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