CliChe Guevara:LaughingRadish: thejoyofpi: LaughingRadish: Ever heard of the Weather Underground? How about the SLA? ALF? ELF? Shall I go on or are you just being deliberately dense?

Long before my time, grandpa. I'm thinking of domestic terror attacks in the last 20 years.

ALF and ELF are currently active. You're not very well-informed, are you?

Oh? When is the last time they shot up a place, tried to assassinate a senator, flew a cessna into a building, set up an ambush for police officers, or blew up a federal building?I can think of all of those recently, but none of them from the left for some reason.

bringing up the ghost of the SLA from 40 years ago, or listing a current group known mainly for spray painting slogans on shiat, will not make us all magically forget the building number and intensity of violent right-wing racist and christian identity groups.

DUDE SPRAY PAINTING A MCDONALD'S IN 1996 IS TOTALLY ON THE SAME LEVEL AS BLOWING UP A FEDERAL BUILDING

/not saying his comments are related, but it's got to be going through his head; he was pounding the whole bane/Bain thing again today

fark everyone else who says "oh, come on that's not fair. you cant just accuse..."

No fark you. There has GOT to be some level of influence people like rush have. Yes, the people that do these kind of shootings are crazy. No one is denying that. But someone who deliberately spreads lies and fear among the populace for ratings needs to keep their shiat in check.

What if it was Rush going to people he knew were crazy and telling them these things personally? How would you feel about it then? Because when you have a radio and this level of crazy, it's pretty much the same thing.

So no, fark everyone else who says that blatant hate speech spread over the air waves has no consequence to these kinds of minds. Because no matter how much you dont want to believe it in times like this, we influence each other in our actions and words.

Are they saying anything new, or is it just talking heads speculating on motives, discussing how traumatized the victims will be, and commenting how eerily similar this is to 9/11-slash-Columbine-slash-Syria?

No, you guys are right...history is, I suppose, relatively far safer now, what with no rampaging barbarian hordes and World Wars going on at the moment. Humans are a violent species. I just think it's garbage that some nut can go into a movie and wipe out people for no real reason...and then, get 24/7 news coverage. The CNN-HLN-MSNBC trio can now fill their massive glut of airtime with real, live tragedy instead of the Tom Cruise divorce wharrgarbl. And, I mean none of that sarcastically or trolling-ly. Or politically. We are 'safer' now, I choose to believe, I guess.

Then again, I live in an apartment complex that, up until a month ago, had a pedophile priest living next door-- who was supposed to be on the sex offender registry (I looked up the complex before I moved in) and wasn't--that I knew nothing about. U.S. Marshals knocked on my door and asked if I saw any kids going in his apartment after they escorted him to wherever. Eight previous counts, apparently....

Uh, Timothy McVeigh was not left wing. Not even remotely. More like radical libertarian.

mjg: Columbine

There was never a political angle to that. Just some disturbed lonely kids

Columbine seemed like it was inspired by the movie "Heathers", or is that before your time too?

"Heathers" was a left wing movie?

How old are you, 10?At the time, alot of people were making that that comparison based on Christian Slater's character, who wore a trench coat, and hated all the jocks, bullies, and popular kids, and wanted to kill them, which were pretty much the same motivations as "The Trench coat Mafia" who perpetrated the Columbine shootings.This, as per their notes, and correspondence that turned up at their homes.

mikaloyd:fireclown: Alright. Help a brother out. What's the Limbaugh angle here? I had heard that he was drawing a link to the name "Bane" to "Bain" in order to villianize Romney, but what else is there? Did he really predict death at showings or something?

Its an election year. If Limbaugh had said he loved the movie rhis would still be his fault and by extension the Republicans fault. Same thing if Obama had mebtioned that he either liked or disliked the movie.

The politically minded Farkers dont much like it if anybody else gets any attention but their toolkits for getting attention are notoriously barren of things other than partisan poo to fling. Hence their ridiculous circus in this thread.

Have to agree with you. It's admittedly tempting to blame incidents like this on people one doesn't like, but it's best to just wait to see if there's any strong evidence first.

Most likely, the shooter is just completely batshiat insane. And if I've learned anything, batshiat insane doesn't prefer one side to the other.

/took my 1 week-old with when we saw a matinee of Brave with my older kids and he slept the entire time.//will be bringing him to see batman on Sunday but only because my little sister's friends are booking the whole theater///just sick about this, my heart goes out to the families

This is FARK. People here dont like breeders or their babies. Especially in theatres airplanes or restaurants. Shooters eventually get forgiven by this mob (and heaven forbid one gets the death penalty) but a baby in a movie theatre will NEVER be tolerated on FARK.

Of course a Raider fan would be an asshole about this. How naive of me to expect otherwise.

. All the other people have spent $12-$18 a piece to watch the thing and they don't want to listen to crying babies, calling phones ringing, bright screens, or people having loud conversations. As I had said, get a freaking baby sitter or don't go to the movies.

I'm a "breeder" and babies do not belong at a theater? Especially at a crowded midnight showing for adults. If you absolutely cannot wait go to an early matinee. A lot of theaters around here don't allow kids under a certain age after 8 or 9. It's a good policy.

TommyymmoT:At the time, alot of people were making that that comparison based on Christian Slater's character, who wore a trench coat, and hated all the jocks, bullies, and popular kids, and wanted to kill them, which were pretty much the same motivations as "The Trench coat Mafia" who perpetrated the Columbine shootings.

Right but the claim in this thread was the Columbine shooters were seen as "left wing" which was palpably not the case. Disturbed, bullied, whatever, but I don't think they were ever attached to an actual political case.

Gwendolyn:I'm a "breeder" and babies do not belong at a theater? Especially at a crowded midnight showing for adults. If you absolutely cannot wait go to an early matinee. A lot of theaters around here don't allow kids under a certain age after 8 or 9. It's a good policy.

/took my 1 week-old with when we saw a matinee of Brave with my older kids and he slept the entire time.//will be bringing him to see batman on Sunday but only because my little sister's friends are booking the whole theater///just sick about this, my heart goes out to the families

This is FARK. People here dont like breeders or their babies. Especially in theatres airplanes or restaurants. Shooters eventually get forgiven by this mob (and heaven forbid one gets the death penalty) but a baby in a movie theatre will NEVER be tolerated on FARK.

Of course a Raider fan would be an asshole about this. How naive of me to expect otherwise.

. All the other people have spent $12-$18 a piece to watch the thing and they don't want to listen to crying babies, calling phones ringing, bright screens, or people having loud conversations. As I had said, get a freaking baby sitter or don't go to the movies.

I'm a "breeder" and babies do not belong at a theater? Especially at a crowded midnight showing for adults. If you absolutely cannot wait go to an early matinee. A lot of theaters around here don't allow kids under a certain age after 8 or 9. It's a good policy.

I'd like to see it applied to everything.

ALL BABIES OFF THE STREET AFTER 8. No bars, no restaurants, no movie theaters, nothing. It's bed time, get yourself a babysitter or stay the fark home and wait for the DVD.

But at 12 in the afternoon? I have to work. You can have a literal sea of babies and soccer moms and kids and noise and whatever at the theater. After nightfall, goodnight.

Gyrfalcon:Are they saying anything new, or is it just talking heads speculating on motives, discussing how traumatized the victims will be, and commenting how eerily similar this is to 9/11-slash-Columbine-slash-Syria?

It is the most liberal fascist state I've ever encountered. Seriously, it's full of 30-something white hippies who like gunz & Jeezus but are proud of how environmentally conscious they are. Truly bizarre.

Actually, being from Colorado I can assure you that it is very right-libertarian. Sure, you've got places like Boulder and plenty of granola enclaves in the place, but I'd hardly call Colorado liberal. It's run by ranchers, for god's sake.

cmunic8r99:Gwendolyn: I'm a "breeder" and babies do not belong at a theater? Especially at a crowded midnight showing for adults. If you absolutely cannot wait go to an early matinee. A lot of theaters around here don't allow kids under a certain age after 8 or 9. It's a good policy.

Darkraven:A shotgun makes sense. But a rifle? Handgun? How do you accomplish mass shooting like that, in a dark theater, in a short amount of time, with a rifle and a handgun?

Large capacity magazine in either or both, shooting into a densely packed and panicked group as they all go for the exit to escape the gas. Can't miss at that point, you are going to hit someone with every shot, and if its a rifle very likely penetrate more than one with some shots.

Darkraven:A shotgun makes sense. But a rifle? Handgun? How do you accomplish mass shooting like that, in a dark theater, in a short amount of time, with a rifle and a handgun?

Quit playing so many video games and learn about some real guns. You can shoot 30+ people with a handful of rifle bullets if they're in a group. Just fire into the exit as they flee. Bullets don't stop just because they hit one thing, they keep going till they run out of energy.

USP .45:Since it's a given this dude is a nut, you have to then consider the number of people that have seen a Dark Knight film v. the number of listeners of Rush Limbaugh. It doens't even compare.

Let me speculate that this nut is roleplaying one of the Joker's henchman and is doing exactly what the Joker would do - cause mayhem.

Perhaps the people targeting Rush should instead be raising a question like "Does do enough to make clear when a member is out of line?" For example, Bachmann is currently doing her best to go full potato and Republican leaders are calling her out for it.

USP .45:Since it's a given this dude is a nut, you have to then consider the number of people that have seen a Dark Knight film v. the number of listeners of Rush Limbaugh. It doens't even compare.

Let me speculate that this nut is roleplaying one of the Joker's henchman and is doing exactly what the Joker would do - cause mayhem.

Unfortunately, that will play into some fundie Christian's alking points. They will bemoan the breakdown of morality and decency in society, as exemplified by the sick fantasies of some 24 year old. Throw in a few jabs at "liberal Hollywood" and voila, tailor made splooge material for the Hannity listening crowd.

Well I just lost sleep for the night. Not going to help when American media blames either videogames or rap music and we all move on with our lives not really making a lick of improvement in say mental healthcare.