I like more volume to my hair, and could NOT use KCCC. It made my hair feel very product-like and weighed down(like it just sat on top of my hair). It also took a few hours to dry with diffusing and several hours if air drying. I just dont have that much time. I use to use CJ PPgel for slip. But it had no hold for me and it elongated my waves. Not something I want. Never tried ecostyler. You might be better trying Biosilk rock hard gelee. Im still using okra gel, but barely getting 2nd day hair with the Florida weather. Might try out biosilk RHG again.hmmm.

2b/c CG since 8/12
I have low porosity and fine/med texture. Easily weighed down and VERY frizzy crown, with straighter under layers