Yes, perhaps we should. Maybe I should "PM" him and suggest he come to this thread and defend himself. I took the liberty of looking him up and I noticed he's from NY. (Or "Jew York" as he puts it.) As far as I'm concerned, right there that entitles him to hate not only "non-Whites," but everyone else! If I lived in NYC I would probably even hate myself-- for living there in the first place.

But let's not dwell on one single member. The larger issue is this: SF is a site for White Nationalists. You also describe yourself as a nationalist, but you've been here long enough to know that our interpretation is not the same as yours. We could just as easily describe ourselves as "separatists," because that is our ultimate intention (at least for most of us). Our credo is (as I'm sure you know) the "14 Words," but our program for acting upon it realistically involves a significant degree of separation between us and all other races.

Now ask yourself: If we truly had no issues with any other race, if we were happy to share our lives with them, if we genuinely liked them (collectively), why would we want to separate from them? Yes, some here have used the argument that we would have to separate anyway to prevent race-mixing and preserve our racial integrity. That's true, but if we were really fond of other races, we might be able to figure out some other way of achieving that.

No, I'm afraid it has to be said: Most, if not virtually all of us, have no desire to live around other races. For some, it may be as simple as a benign indifference. For others it may be as extreme as a raging hatred. People are not all the same, of course, and it's ridiculous to expect us WN's to be. And it is the height of absurdity for you or any other "anti" to come on here and upbraid us for our "hatred" of other races!

I repeat: Given our intent to separate, what logically would you expect us to feel toward other races? Seriously, Anayansi, don't be naive! Or are you merely being disingenuous? Or perhaps you get some sort of thrill from "exposing" our negative feelings toward non-Whites. How scandalous! What next? That Vatican City is full of Catholics?

If you intend to keep coming here on SF, I'd suggest you sharpen your focus and quit belaboring the obvious. Though I'm sure you find it good exercise, most people think it bizarre to keep beating a dead horse.

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Read these basic facts before you go posting about how much we are all sick people.

1. This is a forum for White Nationalists. Some of us do believe in White Supremacy, but they do not represent all of Stormfront.

To ignore a thing is the same as accepting it. Look at how many of you members align yourselves with Hitler and his views but go unchallenged by other WN that don't want to be seen as Nazis. I speak against the New Black Panther Party because I don't agree with their views about whites and I don't want to be seen and having those same views.

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2. Use actual facts. We use facts and statistics when destroying the arguments of antis, why can't you? Point is, don't make stuff up. It's annoying when you think you've won an argument even though your statistics were fake.

WN members very seldom if any us facts, if the did they wouldn't make some of the statements they make. One can close their eyes and point to any thread and find posts that is pure speculation and derived at by pure assumption.

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3. Probably the most important rule: We are not all Neo-Nazis, and just because some of us share views with the Neo-Nazis does not mean that all of us are.

Lets put this another way.The white race is not a monolithic race and you don't like being lumped in and viewed the same as everybody else,especially those who attune to Neo- Nazi views and beliefs.

If this is the case why is it the many WN members lump all blacks into the same boat? This is done in just about every thread and every post.

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4. We do not all hate other races of people. Once again, some of us do, but not all.

This is known and understood but this stands the reason true WN should work harder on trying to get the members that make you all look bad curtail their hateful remarks and articulate themselves better when posting.

I have over a thousand post and you will not find not one racial slur in any of them.

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Thank you and have a nice day, unless, of course, you're an anti.

You have just defeated your whole purpose right here with this comment. It's vague and contains ambiguity which means I can take it to mean anything I want it to mean.

For example, I'm black and I'm an "Anti" by your definition;so based on that I can make it mean you hate me for both reasons I've stated and you wish no good should come my way.

You and I both know that the quote of that one member in your signature does not reflect as a whole on Stormfront or White Nationalists globally, although some lesser thinkers might assume that.

I agree with this but here's the problem. If you truly believe this why don't you and others speak out against it when it is said? Blacks get told all the time on here that we must be in agreement with a comment/action because we have not spoken against it. So the same should apply to you. Don't let other members paint you as something you are not because human nature will and does take your silence to mean you are in agreement.

To ignore a thing is the same as accepting it. Look at how many of you members align yourselves with Hitler and his views but go unchallenged by other WN that don't want to be seen as Nazis. I speak against the New Black Panther Party because I don't agree with their views about whites and I don't want to be seen and having those same views.

Our forum is full of Neo-Nazi White Nationalists? So? I have no problem being seen as a Neo-Nazi. I don't care what others think about me. I know I am not.

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WN members very seldom if any us facts, if the did they wouldn't make some of the statements they make. One can close their eyes and point to any thread and find posts that is pure speculation and derived at by pure assumption.

When a situtation calls for facts and statistics, we use them. If not, then we don't.

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Lets put this another way.The white race is not a monolithic race and you don't like being lumped in and viewed the same as everybody else,especially those who attune to Neo- Nazi views and beliefs.

I've already adressed this. Although I do not represent all non-Neo-Nazi White Nationalists, I don't care what other people view me as. Just because someone thinks I'm a Neo-Nazi doesn't make me one.

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If this is the case why is it the many WN members lump all blacks into the same boat? This is done in just about every thread and every post.
This is known and understood but this stands the reason true WN should work harder on trying to get the members that make you all look bad curtail their hateful remarks and articulate themselves better when posting.

Many of us do try that.

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I have over a thousand post and you will not find not one racial slur in any of them.

Well, I don't use racial slurs either.

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You have just defeated your whole purpose right here with this comment. It's vague and contains ambiguity which means I can take it to mean anything I want it to mean.

For example, I'm black and I'm an "Anti" by your definition;so based on that I can make it mean you hate me for both reasons I've stated and you wish no good should come my way.

No, you can't. My comment doesn't say anything about hating. I did not use hate or any of its synonyms in it. I wish no good should come your way. I don't hate you.

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Yes, perhaps we should. Maybe I should "PM" him and suggest he come to this thread and defend himself.

Maybe he should. I posted almost right after him in that other thread, so he should see himself quoted in my signature soon enough.

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I took the liberty of looking him up and I noticed he's from NY. (Or "Jew York" as he puts it.) As far as I'm concerned, right there that entitles him to hate not only "non-Whites," but everyone else! If I lived in NYC I would probably even hate myself-- for living there in the first place.

I love New York. What can I say? About this guy, I watched his clip. About nature. About a forest. A tropical forest. A forest so common in the land of the non-whites. But he hates us, all the way from New York.
Interesting.

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But let's not dwell on one single member. The larger issue is this: SF is a site for White Nationalists. You also describe yourself as a nationalist, but you've been here long enough to know that our interpretation is not the same as yours. We could just as easily describe ourselves as "separatists," because that is our ultimate intention (at least for most of us). Our credo is (as I'm sure you know) the "14 Words," but our program for acting upon it realistically involves a significant degree of separation between us and all other races.

Now ask yourself: If we truly had no issues with any other race, if we we're happy to share our lives with them, if we genuinely liked them (collectively), why would we want to separate from them? Yes, some here have used the argument that we would have to separate anyway to prevent race-mixing and preserve our racial integrity. That's true, but if we were really fond of other races, we might be able to figure out some other way of achieving that.

I know that perfectly well, I am not as naive as to think that you love us.

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No, I'm afraid it has to be said: Most, if not virtually all of us, have no desire to live around other races. For some, it may be as simple as a benign indifference. For others it may be as extreme as a raging hatred. People are not all the same, of course, and it's ridiculous to expect us WN's to be. And it is the height of absurdity for you or any other "anti" to come on here and upbraid us for our "hatred" of other races!

Upbraid. I am sorry if I am not clear about the meaning of upbraid. But assuming it means berate, my intention is not to berate you for your hatred. What I find silly is the puzzlement some of you express when this site is classified as a hate site, or a racist site.

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I repeat: Given our intent to separate, what logically would you expect us to feel toward other races? Seriously, Anayansi, don't be naive! Or are you merely being disingenuous? Or perhaps you get some sort of thrill from "exposing" our negative feelings toward non-Whites. How scandalous! What next? That Vatican City is full of Catholics?

If there was a thread opened in the Vatican City Website telling visitors to not assume that everyone there is Catholic, the question would be, how many are not Catholic and why is almost everyone Hail Marying?

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If you intend to keep coming here on SF, I'd suggest you sharpen your focus and quit belaboring the obvious. Though I'm sure you find it good exercise, most people think it bizarre to keep beating a dead horse.

What is beating a dead horse is this trying to convince others that ALL that concerns you is the future of your children. I am concerned about the future of my child and my unborn grandchildren too. There are tons of parenting sites for that.

I did not open this thread. This thread was intended to let antis know that you are not all racist, supremacist, nazis who hate other races. I get it, not all of you hate other races. But some of you do. Since you are all so fond of statistics why not have a poll asking in plain language who hates other races. Not the behavior of some non-whites, not their culture, not the illegal immigration, but just the fact that we are non-whites, different DNA, different color.

And before submitting this reply, I want to repeat that I do not hate whites, I do not even hate racists, I hate racism. This guy in my signature, who does not even know me, yet hates me, I do not hate him. I wish that he has been able to see or that he will someday see the beautiful yellow Guayacán tree of his clip.