No it was a solid episode through and through. Just because it's dialogue based doesn't mean it's boring. I fucking hate that mentality.

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I really hope you don't think I'm that shallow. Also, I didn't say boring, I said bad. Dialogue based episodes of any show are hugely important, and usually end up being some of the more compelling episodes. That's not the case in The Walking Dead. The show's characters rarely develop, and when they do they seem to regress shortly after, thus making any dialogue they speak utterly meaningless.

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I wasn't aiming at you. I was aiming it at the general consensus. I do understand your gripes with the show. At least you have compliants other than "THERE'S NO GUNS THIS SUCKS "

No it was a solid episode through and through. Just because it's dialogue based doesn't mean it's boring. I fucking hate that mentality.

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I really hope you don't think I'm that shallow. Also, I didn't say boring, I said bad. Dialogue based episodes of any show are hugely important, and usually end up being some of the more compelling episodes. That's not the case in The Walking Dead. The show's characters rarely develop, and when they do they seem to regress shortly after, thus making any dialogue they speak utterly meaningless.

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I wasn't aiming at you. I was aiming it at the general consensus. I do understand your gripes with the show. At least you have compliants other than "THERE'S NO GUNS THIS SUCKS "

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The show doesn't need more guns, it needs someone who can create a convincing character. It's not good when you've killed off like 20 people since the beginning of the show, and not a single fuck was given about any of them.

I really hope you don't think I'm that shallow. Also, I didn't say boring, I said bad. Dialogue based episodes of any show are hugely important, and usually end up being some of the more compelling episodes. That's not the case in The Walking Dead. The show's characters rarely develop, and when they do they seem to regress shortly after, thus making any dialogue they speak utterly meaningless.

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I wasn't aiming at you. I was aiming it at the general consensus. I do understand your gripes with the show. At least you have compliants other than "THERE'S NO GUNS THIS SUCKS "

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The show doesn't need more guns, it needs someone who can create a convincing character. It's not good when you've killed off like 20 people since the beginning of the show, and not a single fuck was given about any of them.

I really hope you don't think I'm that shallow. Also, I didn't say boring, I said bad. Dialogue based episodes of any show are hugely important, and usually end up being some of the more compelling episodes. That's not the case in The Walking Dead. The show's characters rarely develop, and when they do they seem to regress shortly after, thus making any dialogue they speak utterly meaningless.

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I wasn't aiming at you. I was aiming it at the general consensus. I do understand your gripes with the show. At least you have compliants other than "THERE'S NO GUNS THIS SUCKS "

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The show doesn't need more guns, it needs someone who can create a convincing character. It's not good when you've killed off like 20 people since the beginning of the show, and not a single fuck was given about any of them.

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shane
t-dog
lauries sister

if it was like the comics where the show killed off main characters with no regard, you'd bitch about that too.

I wasn't aiming at you. I was aiming it at the general consensus. I do understand your gripes with the show. At least you have compliants other than "THERE'S NO GUNS THIS SUCKS "

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The show doesn't need more guns, it needs someone who can create a convincing character. It's not good when you've killed off like 20 people since the beginning of the show, and not a single fuck was given about any of them.

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dale
shane
t-dog
lauries sister

if it was like the comics where the show killed off main characters with no regard, you'd bitch about that too.

all you do is bitch bitch bitch

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Dale, sure.

Shane LOL, the dude was turned into a cardboard cut out bad guy in the second half of season two.
T-Dog? You mean the guy that had one line every episode? okay
Lori's sister? Who?

I bitch because the show has a lot of potential, and continues squandering it.

this show is terrible, really falling off the cliff, garbage, waste of my time, sucks.

*keeps watching every ep*

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I realized this in the middle of the second season, but I actually stopped watching. The main problem, as a lot of people are saying, is the CHARACTERS SUCK. I don't give a shit about any of them, except maybe 1 or 2.

As a person who loves the comic and the show, I'm pretty disappointed with this episode and it's for the usual reasons. Nobody does anything that makes sense. Why is Maggie mad at Glenn? Why is Glenn acting like an idiot? Why do they only develop minor characters just before they die? How does the governor have the aim to kill Axel with one bullet, but then nobody even gets hit during the rest of the gun fight? Why did someone drive a van full of walkers into the prison and then get out and run away? Why didn't they just drive away and save the van? What purpose did the van of walkers serve other than breaking the gate and letting like six walkers loose in the prison? Why did the governor and his people just randomly up and leave the prison in the middle of the fight?

I just don't understand why the hell the guys in charge of this show blow so many great chances. It makes me sad...

Glenn thinks he's a pussy for letting maggie being "raped" and is constantly pestering her about it acting like an overprotective bitch. He is also irrationally trying to attack woodbury because of it. Maggies mad at him because she didn't get raped only got naked to save glenns arm and his torture. Glenns acting like he's the victim cuz his girl got "raped" but maggie was the victim.

to give them some sense of worth before they go. would you rather have it they DON"T develop characters before they die? Or they develop these characters and have them never die, which shows that anyone that joins ricks group is immortal.

Or you want it so they kill off more main characters? what the fuck do you want?

Why did someone drive a van full of walkers into the prison and then get out and run away? Why didn't they just drive away and save the van?

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to break the fence and throw a bunch of walkers in their area. To fuck up the prisons defenses, and also have them focus on walkers during the gunfight. they drove away because they didn't need the van prolly. Woodbury probably has more than one van.

Why did the governor and his people just randomly up and leave the prison in the middle of the fight?

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It was his first time seeing the prison, he only brought three guys. He just wanted to see how the prison was set up and good the groups defenses were. The many cuts to the governor smirking and smiling to himself shows how good this scout mission was. He only did it to send a message and to scout out the prison. If he wanted to take it over (which next time he prolly will) he would have brought more guys.

If he wanted to kill them all and take over the prison he would have brought more than 3-4 guys. It was just a scout mission and once it went better than he expected, he showed off.

The reason he sniped axel and couldn't kill anyone else was

axel was standing wide out in the open, governor was unnoticed and tons of time to line up his aim. after the shot everyone got cover and was aware of the governor.

do you think its more likely that the governor is deadpool and just headshots people from 50+ feet away instantly?

jesus christ, logic much?

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Your logic is so dumb...

They're still standing still and have no idea where he was, they only saw the one guy in the tower and they all concentrated their fire on him besides rick... Governor could've easily moved around in the woods and picked off Carl and Maggie.

Also the fact that he could still hit the body of Axel laying flat multiple times but couldn't hit anyone else is absurd.

If he wanted to kill them all and take over the prison he would have brought more than 3-4 guys. It was just a scout mission and once it went better than he expected, he showed off.

The reason he sniped axel and couldn't kill anyone else was

axel was standing wide out in the open, governor was unnoticed and tons of time to line up his aim. after the shot everyone got cover and was aware of the governor.

do you think its more likely that the governor is deadpool and just headshots people from 50+ feet away instantly?

jesus christ, logic much?

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Your logic is so dumb...

They're still standing still and have no idea where he was, they only saw the one guy in the tower and they all concentrated their fire on him besides rick... Governor could've easily moved around in the woods and picked off Carl and Maggie.

Also the fact that he could still hit the body of Axel laying flat multiple times but couldn't hit anyone else is absurd.

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I don't think the Governor was the person shooting at Carol when she was hiding behind dead Axel. It was that guy on top of the tower.

If he wanted to kill them all and take over the prison he would have brought more than 3-4 guys. It was just a scout mission and once it went better than he expected, he showed off.

The reason he sniped axel and couldn't kill anyone else was

axel was standing wide out in the open, governor was unnoticed and tons of time to line up his aim. after the shot everyone got cover and was aware of the governor.

do you think its more likely that the governor is deadpool and just headshots people from 50+ feet away instantly?

jesus christ, logic much?

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Your logic is so dumb...

They're still standing still and have no idea where he was, they only saw the one guy in the tower and they all concentrated their fire on him besides rick... Governor could've easily moved around in the woods and picked off Carl and Maggie.

Also the fact that he could still hit the body of Axel laying flat multiple times but couldn't hit anyone else is absurd.

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I don't think the Governor was the person shooting at Carol when she was hiding behind dead Axel. It was that guy on top of the tower.

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Then you create the bigger and dumber problem that a bullet from the Governor from 600 feet away goes clean through Axel but the guy from 100 ft with the same size weapon can't break through a body.

How come the Governor's eye hasn't become infected? It was stabbed with a piece of glass housing zombie heads, shouldn't the zombie head fluids have infected the water which was on the glass at the time Andrea stabbed him in the eye?

They're still standing still and have no idea where he was, they only saw the one guy in the tower and they all concentrated their fire on him besides rick... Governor could've easily moved around in the woods and picked off Carl and Maggie.

Also the fact that he could still hit the body of Axel laying flat multiple times but couldn't hit anyone else is absurd.

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I don't think the Governor was the person shooting at Carol when she was hiding behind dead Axel. It was that guy on top of the tower.

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Then you create the bigger and dumber problem that a bullet from the Governor from 600 feet away goes clean through Axel but the guy from 100 ft with the same size weapon can't break through a body.

Either way you look at it the Gun Fight was really unrealistic

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lol the gov was not 600 ft away, he was right outside the prison fences. he was NOT 2 football fields away jackass.

still ignoring the fact that

1) axel was standing wide out in teh open and governor was hidden and had time to line up his shot

2) after that shot everyone ran for cover and governors spot was exposed.

you are just ignoring points and exaggerating shit to avoid your pwnage.

If there was any other weirdo like me who liked the haunting song in the beginning of tonight's ep, I found it on youtube.(it's been reoccurring on and off during the sophia tragedy)

OK. Now I can go to sleep.

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I'm one of those weirdos, reminded me of how much better the pilot was than the majority of the rest of the show.

Not that I'm one of those people who hate the show or anything, but this really is one of those shows where the pilot is one of the best episodes.

Does anyone know where the music is that was running during the gunfight? It also played in the midseason finale (S03E08 Made to Suffer) right before the ending when Daryl was revealed next to Merle with the Governor.