Don't touch it. It causes permanent damage to your optical nerves. Foolishly took it 30 years ago, and have been sensitive to bright sunlight ever since. I know of people who have gone blind for days after. nasty shit.If you want to do the Don Juan thing you have to use the root and prepare it properly. Don't use the flowers or seeds.The trip is wierd and not recommended.

I smoked it in a pipe (about a quarter gram of leaf) This technique seems to produce no effect untill you sleep, then you gain a significant amount of control and consciousness during dream state. Datura is not a recreational drug.It's for ....other things.

I smoked it in a pipe (about a quarter gram of leaf) This technique seems to produce no effect untill you sleep, then you gain a significant amount of control and consciousness during dream state. Datura is not a recreational drug.It's for ....other things.

I smoked it in a pipe (about a quarter gram of leaf) This technique seems to produce no effect untill you sleep, then you gain a significant amount of control and consciousness during dream state. Datura is not a recreational drug.It's for ....other things.

Can't you achieve the same results but more safely with Calea ?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1021583

The only sure way to achieve these effects (which Datura is only a small part of the process on the way and easily skipped if you have the right apptitude) is to tell yourself to remember to look for your hands during your dream-Castenadas recommended technique of course.

When you bring up the dosing information on erowid for datura, you will get the following message.

As a general rule, Erowid neither recommends nor discourages the use of any psychoactive, however, in the case of tropane alkaloid-containing Solanaceae plants, we think it is important to note that an overwhelming majority of those who describe to us their use of Datura (and to a lesser extent, Belladonna, Brugmansia and Brunfelsia) find their experiences extremely mentally and physically unpleasant and not infrequently physically dangerous.

There is no way to guess a reasonable dose, because potency of the plant material itself and appropriate dose for an individual appear to vary so much. The question of what "reasonable" means for something that so often leads to such ridiculously negative effects is hard to say.

As an admixture plant in some traditional ayahuasca brews, smoking blends, or other preparations, parts of these plants are generally used in very low doses. Because of the serious adverse consequences associated with tropane alkaloids (scopolamine, atropine, hyoscyamine) intoxication and the wide variation in doses used, we are unwilling to even speculate about specific dosages for the leaves, flowers, and seeds of these plants.

If you are considering ingesting Datura-group plants, please read extensively from the collected experience reports and never take them without a reliable, sober sitter who understands the likely health issues and who can stop you from walking in front of traffic. Please note that fatalities from ingesting Datura do occur and hospitalizations seem to be quite common, in spite of the relatively low rates of psychoactive use of these plants.

Take my post above for what it's worth and stay very far away from datura. If you're hard up for drugs and really want to trip, try buying some morning glory seeds or HBWR seeds and eat them. They contain LSA, a homologue of LSD.

First of all, the difference between working dose and lethal dose is very small with datura.Secondly, seeds do not carry a fixed ammount of working substance. It varies a lot even if the seeds are from the same plant.

In other words. With Datura there is no way to be able to know you got the right dose. And it certainly isn't as simple as counting seeds.

I strongly suggest you put this idea out of your head.

The trip you will get is described as pure evil. There will be no distinction between reality and fantasy. It is pure delirium. You will at some point completely freak out. The trip takes maybe up to 40 hours. Most people who came out of it say that it was extremely negative and had a big impact on their life.

If you ever want to do this, make 100% sure that you are safe and someone with sedatives stands guard to put you down if necessary. In other words, It's not safe.

I went to a party and two guys there took datura. Everyone else refused to touch it.WELL... They both went completely nuts. Put books under a hot grill and swore blind it was a chicken schnitzel. They ate the dirt in pot plants.One of the guys had a chat to an empty chair, apparently it was grandpa! Then came the freak out. Took off in the car and came back 8 hours later not having any idea what they had done.crazy crazy drug.