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By: osubrndn https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6763394
Thu, 18 Apr 2019 03:55:39 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-676339430 career sacks.
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By: bobmillion https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759892
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 22:22:49 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759892Texans problem is there window is right now for the next year or two, and they need talent at other positions. If they lest Clowney go then Watt is rendered useless along with their D. They have cap space to front load Clowney’s contract this year, because the way the QB market is going Deshaun will cost around $40 to $50 million in 2022.
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By: NFLGuru https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759737
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:18:20 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759737The issue is that the Texans want to pay him like a linebacker even though he is a pass rusher.
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By: derp363 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759727
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:11:09 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759727the texans know that they can probably get equal productivity from a project pass rusher at a much cheaper price. Clowney will be traded.
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By: youngnoize https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759361
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 16:08:22 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759361Kind of funny seeing everyone talk bad about Clowney. He’s been rated as one of the top run stuffers at his position over the course of the last few years and is a very good pass rusher who hasn’t reached his ceiling in that department. Guys with his skill aren’t just walking around everyday, and if you pay attention to football, you know he’s worth the money.
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By: kevpft https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759353
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:59:58 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759353Watt played at a superstar level for years, but the Texans still topped out as a one-and-done sometime-playoff team. Why should they overpay a lesser defensive player now?

A sometimes-good, mostly-not-great LB is not an essential need for the Texans right now. What they need most is to shore up the OL and provide some offensive weapons for Watson. A good defense is always a must, but overpaying one guy who’s nobody’s idea of the cornerstone of anything isn’t the way.

Let him play on the tag, draft one of the many excellent defensive players available in the 2nd round, then let Clowney walk after next season.

It’s the next best choice to what they should have done, which is kept Mathieu and traded Clowney.

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By: SWFLPC.INC https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759326
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:39:22 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759326tylawspick6 says:
April 14, 2019 at 8:45 pm
If Houston was smart, they would run away from
this guy.

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And if he signs in NE you will claim that BB is a genius!

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By: granadafan https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759292
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:08:56 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759292Clowney suffers from Russell Wilson disease. He massively overvalues his talent and abilities.
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By: You B. Crazy https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759256
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:41:28 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759256Clowney is good, not great and the Texans know it. They don’t want to get stuck paying franchise QB money to a slightly above average DE. If you need a statistical comparison, look at Von Miller’s stats. Miller is far superior in every stat category. Franchise Clowney in 2019 and if he doesn’t ball out (at least 12 sacks), let him walk.
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By: texansfan82 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759238
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:29:47 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759238As a Texans fan, I’m fine with the approach of tagging him this year and having him earn his deal. He has definitely shown flashes of greatness for us, but I work about his consistency and ability to stay healthy. Personally if we could get a mid-1st rounder for him, I would be willing to let him walk so we could invest our money elsewhere.
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By: J K https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759226
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:17:15 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759226I can see Clowneys agent wanting more than Lawrence especially since his client didn’t have pending major surgery.
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By: grumpysal https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759200
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:48:11 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759200How can fans of the same team have such varying differences of opinion on 1 guy? Some say he can’t defend the run, others say he’s a top 5 player at his position. I find it mildly amusing that fans of the team can’t agree on whether or not the guy can play.
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By: RussianBreadMaker https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759182
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:32:54 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759182Funny how some of these players magically ball out when it is a contract year. Makes you wonder.
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By: alcore1 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759151
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:58:28 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759151Maybe he should come to Carolina on a hometown discount.
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By: rpw84 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759105
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:02:52 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759105This league’s salary structures for QB, EDGE, and WR are beyond ridiculous. In addition, each team’s respective free agent thinks he should be the highest paid, regardless of performance. Now, Clowney is turning his nose to almost 15 million / year! His performance over the last 3-4 years is good but not elite. ( not equivalent to a 14-15 million salary). Hope Texans play hardball with this guy!
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By: exinsidetrader https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759081
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 11:44:48 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759081Without Clowney how can the Texans keep dominating in the playoffs and winning Super Bowls?

Oh …

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By: SundaySwamiSaysDontDisagreeWithPftOrYourCommentWontBePosted https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759069
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 11:16:49 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759069It doesn’t necessarily have to do with him thinking he’s better than Lawrence or wanting more. Likely what’s happening is Clowney is looking for a deal averaging about 20 million a year but the Texans are probably looking closer to the franchise tag of 16 knowing that if their going to sign him for 20 million or more a year they will wait a year and use another franchise tag.
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By: pbdisciple https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759053
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 10:15:32 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759053Nice fallback position. Make enough money in a year to retire on. Be hard pressed to think a team (outside of the Company and Lawrence) who would overpay the fellow more than his tender amount annually). Doesn’t have the production to back it.
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By: omeimontis https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759035
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 06:52:14 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759035Picking him instead of a quarterback was a colossal mistake.
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By: kingthielanscourt https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759026
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 05:58:19 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759026Clowney has never lived up to the hype, except in his own head.
I wonder what he is going to say when his agent tells him the Texans are no longer interested in his services.
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By: lowlifenebula1 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759018
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 04:59:29 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759018Why are so many people who comment nothing more than casual fans of football with no real comprehension of the game? He is easily top five at his position and definitely the second best player on the Texans defense. No, he isn’t Mack but he is really good. Texans should really only consider trading him due to injury concerns.
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By: your6ringsaremeaninglessnow https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6759004
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 04:35:35 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6759004Silly that a great three technique can’t get paid like a great five technique. IMO the market availability of talent and importance to a team are roughly equivalent for the two positions.
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By: alonestartexan https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6758990
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 03:48:43 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6758990playa759 says:
April 14, 2019 at 9:33 pm
By the comments, most of you have not watched Clowney over the last 3 years. His value to the Texans defense is greater than casual observation will reveal. He by far is the best DL/Edge on the team. If you want, look at the stats over the last 3 years and compare them to the top 3 or 4 in the NFL, he is right there. Plus this is about market value, these NFL player salaries are going to continue to rise. The minimum floor of his next contract will be $18M a year. He is young and very effective in the role the TEXANS use him.

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Watched/attended every game, saying that he’s the best DL/Edge on the team is a joke considering that their defense has completely fallen apart.

Tied for 24th in the league in sacks in 2018.
Tied for 19th in the league in sacks in 2017.
Tied for 47th in the league in sacks in 2016.

Not worth $20 million a year.

Watch, the Texans will put the franchise tag on him, he may or may not hold out, but he won’t be a Texan in 2020.

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By: damcmp https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6758960
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 02:28:46 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6758960He only accumulated stats when Watt when on IR and he slid down to de and like Watt
just rushed from wide 9. Ran around the tackle and ran for the QB and accidentally made some stops behind the line. Then there is all of PFF’s mythical hurries and QB scares he and Watt get credited for. probably paid for by the Texan PR dept…
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By: mmmpierogi https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6758955
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 02:16:08 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6758955thefiesty1 says:
April 14, 2019 at 8:42 pm
They are all overpaid as it is.

Yeah, because people buy apparel and show up to games and drive up the value. This is what the market bears and the owners are the ones who benefit most. If you buy into the economic model, live with the inventive structure. Otherwise, fans can express themselves with their wallet.

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By: ricko1112 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6758939
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:42:53 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6758939Overpay this guy already! He’s not a difference maker, but wants top dollar… As a fan of a team in the AFC, please pay him what he wants!
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By: murphyslaw40 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6758938
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:42:37 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6758938Has he offered to tie his salary to the salary cap yet?

(Yes, sarcasm)

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By: playa759 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6758927
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:33:07 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6758927By the comments, most of you have not watched Clowney over the last 3 years. His value to the Texans defense is greater than casual observation will reveal. He by far is the best DL/Edge on the team. If you want, look at the stats over the last 3 years and compare them to the top 3 or 4 in the NFL, he is right there. Plus this is about market value, these NFL player salaries are going to continue to rise. The minimum floor of his next contract will be $18M a year. He is young and very effective in the role the TEXANS use him.
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By: campcouch https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6758925
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:31:22 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6758925Pretty sure a few teams would like to have this guy playing OLB for them.
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By: billsbackto81 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/14/report-clowney-texans-not-close/#comment-6758923
Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:27:43 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2610251#comment-6758923Good player, not exceptional or elite.
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