It's supposedly been eight months since they've built a car...it's about time they laid somebody off (unfortunately it's the lower salaried workers rather that the big-wigs).

Will the Obama administration cut *our* losses and withhold the remaining $300+ million of stimulus money from Fisker or will the administration be freely hand over it over to the celebrity millionaires and billionaires and to the foreigners? :rant:

www.beeweather.comAmerican blood spilled to protect the freedom and peace of people all over the world. 320,000 USA casualties in WWI, 1,076,000 USA casualties in WWII, 128,000 USA casualties in the Korean War, 211,000 casualties in the Vietnam "conflict", 57,000 USA casualties in "War on Terror". Benghazi, Libya, 13 USA casualties. These figures don't include 70,000 MIA. But, the leaders of one political party of the United States of America continue to make the statement..."What difference does it make?".

"We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism."..."The press is our chief ideological weapon." - Nikita Khrushchev

It goes to show the market can choose winners and losers better than government.

I don't know about that, Ken...I kinda think the government has an edge on picking losers. :-\

Ed

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www.beeweather.comAmerican blood spilled to protect the freedom and peace of people all over the world. 320,000 USA casualties in WWI, 1,076,000 USA casualties in WWII, 128,000 USA casualties in the Korean War, 211,000 casualties in the Vietnam "conflict", 57,000 USA casualties in "War on Terror". Benghazi, Libya, 13 USA casualties. These figures don't include 70,000 MIA. But, the leaders of one political party of the United States of America continue to make the statement..."What difference does it make?".

"We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism."..."The press is our chief ideological weapon." - Nikita Khrushchev

It's supposedly been eight months since they've built a car...it's about time they laid somebody off (unfortunately it's the lower salaried workers rather that the big-wigs).

Will the Obama administration cut *our* losses and withhold the remaining $300+ million of stimulus money from Fisker or will the administration be freely hand over it over to the celebrity millionaires and billionaires and to the foreigners? :rant:

" Cut our losses " No. Because of the information I believe to be true, Obama is in the process of taking America down. Obama is a radical leftist who is determined to follow the tenants of Saul Alinsky. Alinsky gave progressives a map to follow, a map to the destruction of America. A reasonable person would ask, " what has Obama done to actually help America? " Obama has crippled America and will attempt to finish us off. This is why Obama will continue to campaign through 2014. He is determined to get democrats (controlled by radical leftist) back in control of congress.

"Listen to the mustn'ts, child. Listen to the don'ts. Listen to the shouldn'ts, the impossibles, the won'ts. Listen to the never haves, then listen close to me . . . Anything can happen, child. Anything can be"

"Listen to the mustn'ts, child. Listen to the don'ts. Listen to the shouldn'ts, the impossibles, the won'ts. Listen to the never haves, then listen close to me . . . Anything can happen, child. Anything can be"

It's supposedly been eight months since they've built a car...it's about time they laid somebody off (unfortunately it's the lower salaried workers rather that the big-wigs).

Will the Obama administration cut *our* losses and withhold the remaining $300+ million of stimulus money from Fisker or will the administration be freely hand over it over to the celebrity millionaires and billionaires and to the foreigners? :rant:

" Cut our losses " No. Because of the information I believe to be true, Obama is in the process of taking America down. Obama is a radical leftist who is determined to follow the tenants of Saul Alinsky. Alinsky gave progressives a map to follow, a map to the destruction of America. A reasonable person would ask, " what has Obama done to actually help America? " Obama has crippled America and will attempt to finish us off. This is why Obama will continue to campaign through 2014. He is determined to get democrats (controlled by radical leftist) back in control of congress.

Then comes Hillary also a big follower of Alinsky. She will be every bit as bad if not worse.

Then comes Hillary also a big follower of Alinsky. She will be every bit as bad if not worse.

unfortunately, a lot of people don't realize this. the leftist lunacy that came out of the clinton WH came from her. fortunatly, bill was a little more pragmatic and even the dems in congress were not so far left.

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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

It is ironic that before the Wright Brothers first took to the air that the United States Gooberment worked on the problem of powered man flight for 10 years. The Gooberment's experimental aircraft engine is even on display in the Smithsonian in DC. Are you ready for this?

Obama is a radical leftist who is determined to follow the tenants of Saul Alinsky. Alinsky gave progressives a map to follow, a map to the destruction of America.

Obama is a moderate a most. If he was a leftist, there would be a bunch of bankers in a jail cell with Bush Jr. ;)

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A reasonable person would ask, " what has Obama done to actually help America? "

Stock market up 70%+. The market was only up 29% after the first term of your hero Reagan. Remember trickle down ;)Natural gas production at record levels. A robust US auto industry (including Tesla) which saved millions of jobs.Obama Care. It might not be perfect, but at least the Dems made an effort.Inflation is completely under control; at very low levels.Record low mortgage ratesThe economy is picking up steam. We know the Kingbee likes S-T-E-A-M :)Home values are going up.Obama basically saved us from another Great Depression. That's saying something X:X X:X X:X

If he was a leftist, there would be a bunch of bankers in a jail cell with Bush Jr.

he's actually more a fascist and his admin is deeply in bed with your bankers and wall street. check the stats on wall street prosecutions in both admins. of course, if you were going to toss the bankers in jail, you'd first have to toss the people who set up the bankers, so that would be a lot of his dem congress. i'm sure he doesn't want to go there. not sure what you'd put bush in jail for...

you should probably study the great depression.

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Stock market up 70%+. The market was only up 29% after the first term of your hero Reagan. Remember trickle down WinkNatural gas production at record levels.A robust US auto industry (including Tesla) which saved millions of jobs.Obama Care. It might not be perfect, but at least the Dems made an effort.Inflation is completely under control; at very low levels.The economy is picking up steam. We know the Kingbee likes S-T-E-A-M SmileyHome values are going up.

-stock market is not an indicator of economic health, but we have already discussed that.-natural gas production is up. that's a great thing and you can thank private industry and land for that. as of 2012, natural gas production on federal land was about 21% down about 10% from the previous decade.-god help me if anyone puts "she tried" on my headstone. i WILL come back an haunt you.-inflation as the government measures it is kind of under control because the fed is keeping interest rates artificially down, but they are also printing money (a large reason for the elevated stock market also). inflation as the government measures it is not an indicator of the cost of living for average Americans....but we have talked about that before also and you have been given references.-tesla did receive some low interest loans, but was not part of the tax payer funded bailout which will never be paid back. most of the funding for tesla came from private investors.-GM and Co. will never pay the tax payer back never mind the investors who were screwed.-home value are improving, but...there are still a lot of foreclosures hanging out there and a lot of new homes being built now with older homes still on the market.

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Obama basically saved us from another Great Depression. That's saying something

that is saying something. now prove it ;)

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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

Stock markets, in US, Australia and elsewhere, are a scam, manipulated by the few for their own benefit. Printing kabillions of pounds, francs, dollars, yen, whatever, is just an improvement on the scam. The government prints extra money, the scammers take profits out when the market bounces up, and put the make believe money into something real, like real estate, gold, small (real)businesses, diamonds, whatever. The rest of the market, including all the pension and superannuation funds, and the rest of us peasants, gets done over.

The rest of the world thinks this is an American scam, but it's not, they are just the biggest players, and the best part of the scam? They are too big to fail.

I believe the US will survive and grow, largely due to gas and shale oil, despite the best efforts of the anti-market forces to stop it. Frank Zappa had a quote, which I can't remember, but it goes like -Greed/self interest always wins out over the idiots- and he included himself in this self interest, and meant it in a positive way.

The only "effort" the Dems , or other socialists, make, it to cheat and manipulate the system so that they can get their own snouts in to the trough. We have a saying over here- " The Labour Party was invented so that stupid, lazy people could get rich too." And they do, often in the most transparent thieving way.

The steam plane could have worked, probably all they needed was a few more policy analysts, project managers, middle level managers and human resources officers to get it airborne.

I for one am an optimist. I fervently believe that after Obama and the Alice in Wonderland Tea Party that Barrack ushered in has shot its wad, that the current President will be honored right up there with Presidants Herbert Hoover and James Buchanan.

I for one am an optimist. I fervently believe that after Obama and the Alice in Wonderland Tea Party that Barrack ushered in has shot its wad, that the current President will be honored right up there with Presidants Herbert Hoover and James Buchanan.

That is my version of another one bites the dust.

Kingbee, I don't know what your version is of the Tea Party is. I can tell you "the wod has hardly been shot". Our mission is to support....A small limited constitutional government, Individual rights, capitalism and American Exeptionalism . Period. You can attach anything to the Tea Party you want. Truth is, we are in the state houses and in Washington making a difference. This has been a tough uphill battle, we will win. Leftist and others can spew lie after lie, unfortunately for them, we are not going away.

" The Labour Party was invented so that stupid, lazy people could get rich too."

now that's funny! :-D

Kingbee must have had a bad experience with some tea party folks. the tea party is not a party, so i guess one group or another could behave badly. most of the anti-whatever conservative group they name, people i have run across have been paulbots. that's another special kind of nut....in my very humble opinion.... ;)

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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....