Well, i mean, as long as you have some kind of government ID it should be fine right? I have work and school so I kind of HAVE to drive and stop relying on my family but then what Jay says. Gas is too expensive for me to afford nowadays

I was talking about normal healthy men (while holding a personal grudge). You have an excuse and no women would hold that against you in that aspect. ^_^

Well, my ex-wife did, and she somehow expected me to be able to magically not be legally blind any longer, so I could drive. I saw that as an irrational demand, to say the least. As I've said in other threads where she gets a mention, I'm happily divorced.

By the way......if your blind....how were you able to read my post?

I get that question often enough, but the simplest answer is that I'm not fully blind, just mostly so. I was born severely nearsighted, plus astigmatism in both eyes, so I'm classified as legally blind.

My eyesight's degenerative, and I know I'll eventually lose it. In the meantime, I can still watch anime and play games, and try to do so daily; I just have to sit rather close to the TV/monitor, in either case. I'm still a voracious reader, too. I even used to be a somewhat decent archer back in college (with the aid of a bow sight and binoculars, of course.)

Without my glasses, I can't discern human faces from over two to three feet away. Even with them, I have to be under 10-12 feet away from street signs before I can be sure to read them. It stands to reason that my reaction time is severely reduced for focusing on anything at a distance, or appropriately small and moving (hence my terrible performance in FPS games.)

I still would question the mental health of anyone who would suggest that I should be driving.

The worst part about driving is the people out there that either don't know what their doing or just too lazy to follow the rules, so you'll end up yelling in your car at them even though no one can even hear you.

Am I the only one that actually wants to drive? I was that excited to be able to drive I booked my first lesson the day after my birthday, I love doing the lessons and buses are a piss take to get in and out of town!

I agree with everybpdy else here here if you don't want to drive then don't drive when I don't feel like driving I don't I just bum rides cuz I can't really walk anywhere cuz I live in the middle of nowhere

So when your feeling apathetic you just say to yourself: "You know what I'm going to impose on others!" Good grief, people in my generation and younger are such lazy bastards. Guess what? Everything isn't going to be handed to you! Everyone isn't going to keep being put out because of you! Eventually your friends and family are going to say "F$3k it!" and not deal with you anymore. So you decided are you going to be an adult or stay an immature child.

P.S.

You spelling and grammar sucks.

Hold on calm down I didn't mean it like that I live between two towns ones really small and the others big and so when my friends pass by they will ask if I wanna go nobody really gives me hand outs I do most things on my own I'm sorry if I offended you it wasn't my intention

and yes my spelling and grammer is awful I'm working on it

This is exactly what I'm talking about. What sense of entitlement are they teaching in schools these days? I know I am not exactly a stellar citizen being that I'm a grown man watching anime -- but I paid for my computer with money I earned at my real big-boy job and I picked up the parts in my big boy car that I also paid for with money I made at my big-boy job. How is it that you little brats think its ok to bum rides and ask for handouts all the time? Aren't you humiliated? Aren't you embarrassed?

I lost my job for a while in '08 when the economy crashed. I had to crash on a friend's couch for a while. It was absolutely humiliating -- the lowest point in my life. How can you do that every day with no shame? How can you say, "I'll just bum rides" so nonchalantly? I really don't understand how any sane young person could not crave independence. It blows my freakin mind!

My Grandfather was fighting the Japanese at 17. I was in college at 16. These posts by late teens and early-twenty-somethings truly terrify me. YOU are the reason humanity is screwed. Learn to drive and get a job! Take care of yourselves! You'll feel better about yourselves if you actually DO something to feel good about. Until you physically DO something you are NOT important, you are NOT special and you do NOT matter.

Besides, if you love your family and friends don't you want to help them rather than take all the time?

In the US, learning to drive is a necessity. When you were little, you probably didn't want to learn to wipe your own butt either. Why wipe yourself and get your hands dirty when you can yell for mommy or daddy? Driving is the same thing except that driving can be enjoyable.

Guess what - in the real world you'll probably have to get somewhere at some time. Unless you have plenty of money for taxis or private drivers, learning to drive is a necessity. If you live in a major metropolitan area with a great mass transit system driving is a luxury. If you live anywhere else on the North American continent, LEARN TO DRIVE YOU SELFISH TWIT! Mommy and daddy aren't going to be your personal taxi forever. And learn to drive WELL while you're at it. There are lots of people on the roads with families to see and work to do. Try not to screw them over.

Yes, I AM comparing wiping your ass with driving. They are both common chores that every reasonable independent adult should be able to do for themselves. Both skills grant a great deal of independence and mobility. Both skills are considered milestones when growing up. Both skills are considered necessary by most of society -- ESPECIALLY employers. And finally, BOTH skills can have very messy consequences if you screw up.

I've actually always wanted to drive, but my vision is too poor (about 20/300), so I can't (and haven't even bothered trying). But public transportation works well enough so that driving really isn't necessary.

However, not driving is a big hassle for me personally because I hate relying on other people to get me to where I need to be. Although public transportation works, you have to leave hours ahead of time. Similarly, I've had friends and family drive me places, but they couldn't care less if I arrive there on time or not and it FREAKING annoys me.

But I suppose the grass is always greener on the other side, so I can understand why someone wouldn't want to learn how to drive ^.^

I agree with everybpdy else here here if you don't want to drive then don't drive when I don't feel like driving I don't I just bum rides cuz I can't really walk anywhere cuz I live in the middle of nowhere

So when your feeling apathetic you just say to yourself: "You know what I'm going to impose on others!" Good grief, people in my generation and younger are such lazy bastards. Guess what? Everything isn't going to be handed to you! Everyone isn't going to keep being put out because of you! Eventually your friends and family are going to say "F$3k it!" and not deal with you anymore. So you decided are you going to be an adult or stay an immature child.

P.S.

You spelling and grammar sucks.

Hold on calm down I didn't mean it like that I live between two towns ones really small and the others big and so when my friends pass by they will ask if I wanna go nobody really gives me hand outs I do most things on my own I'm sorry if I offended you it wasn't my intention

and yes my spelling and grammer is awful I'm working on it

This is exactly what I'm talking about. What sense of entitlement are they teaching in schools these days? I know I am not exactly a stellar citizen being that I'm a grown man watching anime -- but I paid for my computer with money I earned at my real big-boy job and I picked up the parts in my big boy car that I also paid for with money I made at my big-boy job. How is it that you little brats think its ok to bum rides and ask for handouts all the time? Aren't you humiliated? Aren't you embarrassed?

I lost my job for a while in '08 when the economy crashed. I had to crash on a friend's couch for a while. It was absolutely humiliating -- the lowest point in my life. How can you do that every day with no shame? How can you say, "I'll just bum rides" so nonchalantly? I really don't understand how any sane young person could not crave independence. It blows my freakin mind!

My Grandfather was fighting the Japanese at 17. I was in college at 16. These posts by late teens and early-twenty-somethings truly terrify me. YOU are the reason humanity is screwed. Learn to drive and get a job! Take care of yourselves! You'll feel better about yourselves if you actually DO something to feel good about. Until you physically DO something you are NOT important, you are NOT special and you do NOT matter.

Besides, if you love your family and friends don't you want to help them rather than take all the time?

Maybe they have personal issues that prevents them from doing things like learning to drive or getting a job. I agree, if you do something for yourself for your own benefit you will feel good about it. Some people can't physically do things on their own, are they considered worthless then? Now, I know most of the people in these posts probably aren't disabled that badly, but you never know and it's good to take that into consideration. Regarding the topic, personally, I have no interest whatsoever in driving or getting a job at the moment. Sure, I still need them to advance in life but right now those things aren't my top priority. Humanity will not be screwed because a few kids or young adults haven't taken it upon themselves to learn to drive or get a job, that's just rude. Calling people little brats isn't a way to get a point across either. Everyone is different, you aren't like everyone else and everyone else isn't like you. Please clarify and correct me if I'm wrong or anything.

Yes, I AM comparing wiping your ass with driving. They are both common chores that every reasonable independent adult should be able to do for themselves. Both skills grant a great deal of independence and mobility. Both skills are considered milestones when growing up. Both skills are considered necessary by most of society -- ESPECIALLY employers. And finally, BOTH skills can have very messy consequences if you screw up.

LOL this is a joke right? I don't ever remember being at risk of danger when taking a dump. If you wipe your ass the wrong way, you can always try again. If you crash, it's not something you can take back. You don't get brownie points for knowing how to rub toilet paper on your butt hole. If you think that is a good analogy, then anything can be compared to driving. In this society, if you can't wipe your ass go live in a tribe.