Anyway, I'm not convinced ! I think there is too much of direct sound from the tweeter. If I place a dome tweeter on the floor and aim it to the listening position I locate the sound coming from the floor. I cannot see how Snell type 1 would be any better.

If I place a dome tweeter on the floor and aim it to the listening position I locate the sound coming from the floor. I cannot see how Snell type 1 would be any better.

I agree. The sound would come from the floor just like the sound of a "flodder" will come from the floor if there's no other source (real or reflection) that is strong enough to override precedence. But hasn't all of this already been presented and discussed months (years?) ago?

Anyway, I'm not convinced ! I think there is too much of direct sound from the tweeter. If I place a dome tweeter on the floor and aim it to the listening position I locate the sound coming from the floor. I cannot see how Snell type 1 would be any better.

There is a big difference if the floor placed dome is facing towards the listening position or the ceiling. But only blocking the direct sound by a absorbing pillow makes the dome not to be perceivable as a source.

I think the Snell could work IF the baffle would be tilted much more backwards, horisontally.

what the precedence effect has to do with sound source localisation mechanisms in the vertical plane?

Markus first talked about summing localisation in the vertical plane, then about breaking of the precedence effect in the vertical plane, now he talks about plain stupidity, well, I certainly can see some consistence in his posts here

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What should I see ? Give me some bias and tell what to see, then maybe I see it too

look at the picture below and then try to draw lines for specular reflections from the tweeter towards the listener

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From the Snell thread the owner says:

but the one who complained about it also says:

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I didn't use a reflector so perhaps that's why things seemed a bit low - as though I was looking down on the music.

and the other one - quoted by You commented:

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I do get a very convincing image. It does seem that everything is focused down a bit, but I can locate things above and around the speakers.

so the sound was certainly NOT as coming from the floor

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But only blocking the direct sound by a absorbing pillow makes the dome not to be perceivable as a source.

but in case of a mono flooder the direct sound was not absorbed, am I right?