[QUOTE="PonchoTaco"] Anybody could still be well grounded in their beliefs. Science isn't perfect.PonchoTaco

yeah, **** science.

shyts full of liberal bigots anyway.

Not sure where you get that from. I believe science, but I know man is fallible and therefore so is science. There can very well be a person who matures faster than others.yes science is not perfect, but see, i brought a link from the national institute for mental health to show and tell here.

Most of that doesn't seem very likely to have happened, at least not the way it is presented there.

He said, most small business owners and workers take off Fridays and summers. According to him, small business owners go golfing every Friday. He also said many businessmen work fewer hours than teachers.

Also says teacher makes $100,000. Even if this were all true the problem isn't that they are bullying someone for politcal beliefs. It's that his teachers are completely insane.

I don't see how this is bullying, but then the definitions of bullying I've seen on this forum are so incredibly liberal, that I'm sure this is to some people.

That said, a teacher spending class time to b!tch about their salary is incredibly unprofessional. Really, if someone hired me to teach a week-long class (something that has happened before), and I spent the first day complaining about my pay or pushing some unrelated political agenda, people would have a right to be pissed.

I don't know for sure of course, but there's absolutely no reason this kid couldn't hold his own political beliefs. Some kids mature faster than others...he could be an exception.

http://www.oddee.com/item_96629.aspx

Riverwolf007

heh, who wants to put bets on this kid being a prodigy? I think the point is, presenting a study showing how on average a teenagers brain isn't fully developed therefore this kid couldn't have his own well thought out political ideologies isn't proof of anything. We can make assumptions of course, but the reality is no one here even knows this kid personally. It's a pointless discussion based on nothing.

Yeah I doubt any 15 year old is a Republican. Even 18 year olds still struggle to come up with their own political identity.

This goes for any political group. No young person can fully comprehend what being affiliated with a certain political party even means.

Wasdie

I knew plenty of kids that had been indoctrinated into the party of their parents from the time they were a small child. They just spew the same crap their parents tell them then overreact in ridiculous fashion when people say anything that is even slightly different from what their parents tell them (which I am assuming is the case here)

I don't know for sure of course, but there's absolutely no reason this kid couldn't hold his own political beliefs. Some kids mature faster than others...he could be an exception.

http://www.oddee.com/item_96629.aspx

Renevent42

heh, who wants to put bets on this kid being a prodigy?

I think the point is, presenting a study showing how on average a teenagers brain isn't fully developed therefore this kid couldn't have his own well thought out political ideologies isn't proof of anything. We can make assumptions of course, but the reality is no one here even knows this kid personally. It's a pointless discussion based on nothing. well of course you are right but come on.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"] For a moment, I thought you meant the democratic party.MrPraline

meh, it's all mostly the same shyt just different speakers.

mhm political parties = sport teamsyeah, i put this in a few mins ago but if you want to understand politics just read these links.

it is all basically a combination of leftover shyt from our tribal past and cognitive dissonance.

"In other words, reasoning with facts about the issues is quite secondary to the emotional power of first siding with your party and then employing your reason, intelligence, and education in the service of your political commitment."

I saw no bullying ther, I only saw the whinings of a pissy teenager upset that someone dare express opinions that he doesn't agree with.

worlock77

"In a period of two months, my Geography teacher frequently would take me aside after school for a few minutes and tell me how stupid, wrong and misguided I was for being Republican. The harassment with this specific teacher got so bad, I had to switch schools halfway through the year. At this time I was only 12 years old. To my knowledge, this teacher was not disciplined at all for her actions. "

Lmao ok. Liberals are a funny bunch, I bet if a teacher pulled aside a pro-gay student and said such things you'd claim it was bullying.

That doesn't seem to be the real issue. The issue seems to be that these teachers dare express their own views at all.

worlock77

Maybe so. I still think it's obnoxious for a teacher to confront a student privately and tell them not to support a political cause or party because the teacher personally disagrees with it. It's also obnoxious for an educator to use class time to complain about their salary.

I saw no bullying ther, I only saw the whinings of a pissy teenager upset that someone dare express opinions that he doesn't agree with.

GD1551

"In a period of two months, my Geography teacher frequently would take me aside after school for a few minutes and tell me how stupid, wrong and misguided I was for being Republican. The harassment with this specific teacher got so bad, I had to switch schools halfway through the year. At this time I was only 12 years old. To my knowledge, this teacher was not disciplined at all for her actions. "

Lmao ok. Liberals are a funny bunch, I bet if a teacher pulled aside a pro-gay student and said such things you'd claim it was bullying.

for the record if this actually happened then the teacher was certainly in the wrong. The main issue is that there is no way to verify if this is true, and other parts of the blog suggest that he is making things up.

I saw no bullying ther, I only saw the whinings of a pissy teenager upset that someone dare express opinions that he doesn't agree with.

GD1551

"In a period of two months, my Geography teacher frequently would take me aside after school for a few minutes and tell me how stupid, wrong and misguided I was for being Republican. The harassment with this specific teacher got so bad, I had to switch schools halfway through the year. At this time I was only 12 years old. To my knowledge, this teacher was not disciplined at all for her actions. "

Lmao ok. Liberals are a funny bunch, I bet if a teacher pulled aside a pro-gay student and said such things you'd claim it was bullying.

Sorry, but I find his claims suspect and I'm not going to take the word of a 15 year-old at face value without some kind of corroboration.

I saw no bullying ther, I only saw the whinings of a pissy teenager upset that someone dare express opinions that he doesn't agree with.

worlock77

"In a period of two months, my Geography teacher frequently would take me aside after school for a few minutes and tell me how stupid, wrong and misguided I was for being Republican. The harassment with this specific teacher got so bad, I had to switch schools halfway through the year. At this time I was only 12 years old. To my knowledge, this teacher was not disciplined at all for her actions. "

Lmao ok. Liberals are a funny bunch, I bet if a teacher pulled aside a pro-gay student and said such things you'd claim it was bullying.

Sorry, but I find his claims suspect and I'm not going to take the word of a 15 year-old at face value without some kind of corroboration.

That isn't what you said, intially, you claimed that there was no bullying there when infact if he is telling the truth there was. Had you claimed that you may have thought he was lying due to contradications in his statement that would have been another matter altogether.

"In a period of two months, my Geography teacher frequently would take me aside after school for a few minutes and tell me how stupid, wrong and misguided I was for being Republican. The harassment with this specific teacher got so bad, I had to switch schools halfway through the year. At this time I was only 12 years old. To my knowledge, this teacher was not disciplined at all for her actions. "

Lmao ok. Liberals are a funny bunch, I bet if a teacher pulled aside a pro-gay student and said such things you'd claim it was bullying.

GD1551

Sorry, but I find his claims suspect and I'm not going to take the word of a 15 year-old at face value without some kind of corroboration.

That isn't what you said, intially, you claimed that there was no bullying there when infact if he is telling the truth there was. Had you claimed that you may have thought he was lying due to contradications in his statement that would have been another matter altogether.

"In a period of two months, my Geography teacher frequently would take me aside after school for a few minutes and tell me how stupid, wrong and misguided I was for being Republican. The harassment with this specific teacher got so bad, I had to switch schools halfway through the year. At this time I was only 12 years old. To my knowledge, this teacher was not disciplined at all for her actions. "

Lmao ok. Liberals are a funny bunch, I bet if a teacher pulled aside a pro-gay student and said such things you'd claim it was bullying.

GD1551

Sorry, but I find his claims suspect and I'm not going to take the word of a 15 year-old at face value without some kind of corroboration.

That isn't what you said, intially, you claimed that there was no bullying there when infact if he is telling the truth there was. Had you claimed that you may have thought he was lying due to contradications in his statement that would have been another matter altogether.

That I believe it to be a pile of bullsh*t means that I see no truth in it, and thus see no bullying. I do, however, see a teenager complaing about his teachers expressing their views.

Let's see. I don't know if these are true or not. But, if a teacher ever did these to my kid? I'd knock his teeth out. Her's too if the teacher is female.....

1. I was on the front page of the local newspaper for my political volunteer work and my teachers noticed. One of my seven teachers made it very clear that she dissaproved of my civic engagement. In a period of two months, my Geography teacher frequently would take me aside after school for a few minutes and tell me how stupid, wrong and misguided I was for being Republican.

2. He spent the remainder of that period lecturing us about how much he hated Scott Walker and explained all the reasons why. He said, most small business owners and workers take off Fridays and summers. According to him, small business owners go golfing every Friday. He also said many businessmen work fewer hours than teachers. He explained how his pay was too low to support his family. He told the class his pay was so bad he had to paint houses in the summers. During this discussion, he was swearing and saying how wrong it was for anyone to support Walker. Students were telling him to stop, and he wouldnt.

3. He then gave me a book to read about Abraham Lincoln. He told me that good politicians read a lot. Then he said, I dont think Scott Walker likes to read.

4. The same English teacher who had lectured to almost 30 students about a month earlier took me aside during class again. He started talking about Mitt Romney and Scott Walker and his views on them. He reiterated how much harder he worked compared to my dad, a small business owner, which he had no knowledge of. He went on to ask how much my parents made because he wanted to compare it to his salary.

5. Later during the apology, he started to talk about Walker again and how much he hated him. He just couldnt stop. At the end of the conversation, my teacher asked you know how you went down to the principals office? I said yes, and he said I dont give a sh*t. I asked why, and he went on to explain that he was friends with the principal so it didnt matter to him and he wouldnt get in trouble because of their friendship.

6. When I presented in front of the class, he asked if I supported the Tea Party. I said yes. He rolled his eyes and told me believing in the organization was weird." He also told me he knew nothing about the Tea Party.

7. For about five minutes, she called all Republicans racist. According to her, she had never seen such discrimination against a president and President Obama has been the most ill-treated president in the history of the United States, all because the Republicans don't want a black man in the White House.

Edit:

I have to be very professional at work. I expect teachers to do the same.

Let's see. I don't know if these are true or not. But, if a teacher ever did these to my kid? I'd knock his teeth out. Hers too.

1. I was on the front page of the local newspaper for my political volunteer work and my teachers noticed. One of my seven teachers made it very clear that she dissaproved of my civic engagement. In a period of two months, my Geography teacher frequently would take me aside after school for a few minutes and tell me how stupid, wrong and misguided I was for being Republican.

2. He spent the remainder of that period lecturing us about how much he hated Scott Walker and explained all the reasons why. He said, most small business owners and workers take off Fridays and summers. According to him, small business owners go golfing every Friday. He also said many businessmen work fewer hours than teachers. He explained how his pay was too low to support his family. He told the class his pay was so bad he had to paint houses in the summers. During this discussion, he was swearing and saying how wrong it was for anyone to support Walker. Students were telling him to stop, and he wouldnt.

3. He then gave me a book to read about Abraham Lincoln. He told me that good politicians read a lot. Then he said, I dont think Scott Walker likes to read.

4. The same English teacher who had lectured to almost 30 students about a month earlier took me aside during class again. He started talking about Mitt Romney and Scott Walker and his views on them. He reiterated how much harder he worked compared to my dad, a small business owner, which he had no knowledge of. He went on to ask how much my parents made because he wanted to compare it to his salary.

5. Later during the apology, he started to talk about Walker again and how much he hated him. He just couldnt stop. At the end of the conversation, my teacher asked you know how you went down to the principals office? I said yes, and he said I dont give a sh*t. I asked why, and he went on to explain that he was friends with the principal so it didnt matter to him and he wouldnt get in trouble because of their friendship.

6. When I presented in front of the class, he asked if I supported the Tea Party. I said yes. He rolled his eyes and told me believing in the organization was weird." He also told me he knew nothing about the Tea Party.

7. For about five minutes, she called all Republicans racist. According to her, she had never seen such discrimination against a president and President Obama has been the most ill-treated president in the history of the United States, all because the Republicans don't want a black man in the White House.

Gay kid claiming to be bullied= where is everyone calling him a liar and questioning if it happened?

Serraph105

show me the gay kid making outrageous claims such as a teacher making $100,000/year, and I will show you my skepticism Dude thats a fact that teachers make that much. Atleast they do in my district. They sent around a booklet with every teachers exact salaries, and the added benefits.

Gay kid claiming to be bullied= where is everyone calling him a liar and questioning if it happened?

AdamPA1006

This has to be the most fvcking stupid statement in this entire thread.. Congrats.. Comparing being gay to a republican or any political ideology, do you even think out your statements before you say/type them?

Gay kid claiming to be bullied= where is everyone calling him a liar and questioning if it happened?

sSubZerOo

This has to be the most fvcking stupid statement in this entire thread.. Congrats.. Comparing being gay to a republican or any political ideology, do you even think out your statements before you say/type them?

What is wrong with my logic? Come into a thread with a republican claiming to be bullied and everyone is saying he is a liar and making it up. Ive never people say that for gay bashing (Hes making it all up).

Gay kid claiming to be bullied= where is everyone calling him a liar and questioning if it happened?

AdamPA1006

This has to be the most fvcking stupid statement in this entire thread.. Congrats.. Comparing being gay to a republican or any political ideology, do you even think out your statements before you say/type them?

What is wrong with my logic? Come into a thread with a republican claiming to be bullied and everyone is saying he is a liar and making it up. Ive never people say that for gay bashing (Hes making it all up).

:| Come back to me when the term "republican" or "conservative" becomes a curse word like "gay" or far worse names for gays that people use all the time.. This happens all the the time.. The reason why this usually is never argued in a high school setting is we have all witness sh!t first hand and have read all these stories.. This isn't saying the guy is a liar, but comapring this sh!t to what a gay person has to deal with in high school? Wtf?

This has to be the most fvcking stupid statement in this entire thread.. Congrats.. Comparing being gay to a republican or any political ideology, do you even think out your statements before you say/type them?

sSubZerOo

What is wrong with my logic? Come into a thread with a republican claiming to be bullied and everyone is saying he is a liar and making it up. Ive never people say that for gay bashing (Hes making it all up).

:| Come back to me when the term "republican" or "conservative" becomes a curse word like "gay" or far worse names for gays that people use all the time.. This happens all the the time.. The reason why this usually is never argued in a high school setting is we have all witness sh!t first hand and have read all these stories.. This isn't saying the guy is a liar, but comapring this sh!t to what a gay person has to deal with in high school? Wtf?

In High school and college I have witnessed liberal teachers going off about every subject and me being the only one willing to question them or argue them. I dont see why that the first thing everyone jumped to in this thread that he was just making it all up. I'm not comparing it directly but bullying is bullying someone coming up to your face and saying your stupid for what you believe in, in a school setting, is bullying. They can argue or debate or whatever but the teachers all went our of their way to attack him. I wouldnt call gay a curse word its just become common as a derogatory term. And many people use republican and conservative as a derogatory term, just like conservatives use liberal as a derogatory term.