Originally posted by carusochop
just another player we would've had a use for.....

We got Shingo for the same price, why would we go after him too? The pen isn't where we need the help.

Lip Man 1

02-05-2004, 10:43 PM

On paper, San Diego could have a very good bullpen...Hoffman, Beck, Osuna and I know they have a 4th guy who has been solid his entire career. (Sorry the name escapes me...)

Lip

doublem23

02-05-2004, 10:47 PM

The Padres are a good team on paper... Whether or not that will translate into wins, we'll see.

Huisj

02-05-2004, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by Lip Man 1
On paper, San Diego could have a very good bullpen...Hoffman, Beck, Osuna and I know they have a 4th guy who has been solid his entire career. (Sorry the name escapes me...)

Lip

witasik maybe? is he back there again? he's been decent, he strikes a lot of guys out i think.

sas1974

02-05-2004, 11:21 PM

I am just glad someone picked up Osuna so that he didn't end up here. You can take him and Embree and shove them both off of a ledge. 95 mph fastballs that don't have movement go a LOOOOOOONG way!

Lip Man 1

02-05-2004, 11:22 PM

Funny Embree did fantastic with the red Sox last year....how do you account for that?

Lip

sas1974

02-05-2004, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by Lip Man 1
Funny Embree did fantastic with the red Sox last year....how do you account for that?

Lip

Perhaps a change of scenery did him some good. All I know is that I used to cringe when we brought him in.

doublem23

02-06-2004, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by sas1974
Perhaps a change of scenery did him some good. All I know is that I used to cringe when we brought him in.

Was Embree around during the Nardi years? That could explain pretty much everything.

Hangar18

02-06-2004, 01:08 AM

Originally posted by Lip Man 1
Funny Embree did fantastic with the red Sox last year....how do you account for that?

Lip

Embree was Terrible for the White SOX. I remember a lot of balls
being hit HARD off him. That was Never Good

lowesox

02-06-2004, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by SEALgep
We got Shingo for the same price, why would we go after him too? The pen isn't where we need the help.

Yes it is. We've lost two steady guys (Flash and Sullivan) and we're replacing them with two very big question marks (Dr. Zero and Cliff Politte), believe me we're going to need the help.

depy48

02-06-2004, 01:15 AM

El Cannon in SD huh? I'm not too worried. I'd rather have Koch/Shing/Marte taking the closer duties that Osuna

SEALgep

02-06-2004, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by depy48
El Cannon in SD huh? I'm not too worried. I'd rather have Koch/Shing/Marte taking the closer duties that Osuna
Not only that, but everybody keeps talking about how Sullivan is this huge loss for the Sox and we're lost without him. This guy pitched fourteen innings for us last year in 9 games.

His number hold up well, but how much of an impact did he have. Replace him, I bet Politte can put up these number for at least 14 innings.

DSpivack

02-06-2004, 01:59 AM

Originally posted by Lip Man 1
On paper, San Diego could have a very good bullpen...Hoffman, Beck, Osuna and I know they have a 4th guy who has been solid his entire career. (Sorry the name escapes me...)

Lip

On paper the White Sox should win the AL Central nearly every year!

jeremyb1

02-06-2004, 02:54 AM

Nothing against Mr. Zero but I'd rather have Osuna.

SSN721

02-06-2004, 07:17 AM

Originally posted by SEALgep
Not only that, but everybody keeps talking about how Sullivan is this huge loss for the Sox and we're lost without him. This guy pitched fourteen innings for us last year in 9 games.

His number hold up well, but how much of an impact did he have. Replace him, I bet Politte can put up these number for at least 14 innings.

I completely agree, never really understood all the griping that went on around here when we didnt hold onto Sullivan. I mean from some of the games I remember him pitching in, I think if he pitched more than 14 innings those numbers could have gotten worse as well as better. I think our pen is relatively solid this year. Hopefully none of them will digress into Rick White disease. ugh