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Man if Phil trades this pick and doesn't acquire multiple draft assets in this draft I'm gonna be irate

And Detroit potentially trying to pawn off Jennings to us is laughable even if Calderon was swapped this accomplishes nothing.

I don't get it. Is the main source of Detroit's interest in THJ that his dad sees that his son's career could be on the brink and he wants to bring him to Detroit to coach him? Heck, anything Detroit wants to give us for THJ without us taking significant salary in return would be okay with me.

The Pistons have shown interest in trading for Knicks guard Tim Hardaway Jr., league sources told ESPN (June 22).
Detroit could look to deal guard Brandon Jennings, who averaged 15.4 points and 6.6 rebounds per game last season before rupturing his Achilles tendon in January.
Jennings has one year and $8.3 million left on his contract with the Pistons.
Hardaway averaged 11.5 points per game last season, switching between a starter and reserve.
For the Knicks to acquire Jennings, the team would have to use its trade exception, ESPN reports.

Hardaway Jr.’s father, Tim Sr., is an assistant coach under Stan Van Gundy in Detroit. Such interest obviously makes sense.
It would appear as though the writing is on the wall for Hardaway Jr. to be traded this summer. He was continuously criticized for his poor defensive instincts this past season, and had to really earn his keep and prove his worth just to get consistent minutes. He was underutilized throughout much of the season. When Carmelo Anthony shut it down for the season, the youngster was relied upon more, but by then, it was too late.
Hardaway Jr. isn’t exactly a player who is taylor-made for the triangle, and it shows. That’s not to say he’s a bad player, but Phil Jackson and Co. are certainly looking for players who fit a certain mold. If the Michigan product doesn’t fit, it’d be more beneficial to trade him and actually get something of value back in return. The idea of trading for Jennings is an interesting suggestion, but such a move would eat into the team’s cap space.
Perhaps such a swap would come only after New York begins to explore certain free agency options. Trading for Jennings may be considered a backup plan of sorts, if and when they fail to land another desirable piece or two. As it stands, Jackson has already said the Knicks are set at the lead guard position. This could apply to the team’s already existent floor generals, but at the same time, Jennings could certainly serve in a capacity playing off the ball and/or being a two-guard in the triangle.
It’s obvious why the Pistons are interested in Hardaway Jr., but trading for Jennings would appear to be one of the only trade scenarios that would be worth the Knicks’ while. Should the team target Greg Monroe, a sign & trade wouldn’t appear necessary.

The Pistons have shown interest in trading for Knicks guard Tim Hardaway Jr., league sources told ESPN (June 22).
Detroit could look to deal guard Brandon Jennings, who averaged 15.4 points and 6.6 rebounds per game last season before rupturing his Achilles tendon in January.
Jennings has one year and $8.3 million left on his contract with the Pistons.
Hardaway averaged 11.5 points per game last season, switching between a starter and reserve.
For the Knicks to acquire Jennings, the team would have to use its trade exception, ESPN reports.

Hardaway Jr.ís father, Tim Sr., is an assistant coach under Stan Van Gundy in Detroit. Such interest obviously makes sense.
It would appear as though the writing is on the wall for Hardaway Jr. to be traded this summer. He was continuously criticized for his poor defensive instincts this past season, and had to really earn his keep and prove his worth just to get consistent minutes. He was underutilized throughout much of the season. When Carmelo Anthony shut it down for the season, the youngster was relied upon more, but by then, it was too late.
Hardaway Jr. isnít exactly a player who is taylor-made for the triangle, and it shows. Thatís not to say heís a bad player, but Phil Jackson and Co. are certainly looking for players who fit a certain mold. If the Michigan product doesnít fit, itíd be more beneficial to trade him and actually get something of value back in return. The idea of trading for Jennings is an interesting suggestion, but such a move would eat into the teamís cap space.
Perhaps such a swap would come only after New York begins to explore certain free agency options. Trading for Jennings may be considered a backup plan of sorts, if and when they fail to land another desirable piece or two. As it stands, Jackson has already said the Knicks are set at the lead guard position. This could apply to the teamís already existent floor generals, but at the same time, Jennings could certainly serve in a capacity playing off the ball and/or being a two-guard in the triangle.
Itís obvious why the Pistons are interested in Hardaway Jr., but trading for Jennings would appear to be one of the only trade scenarios that would be worth the Knicksí while. Should the team target Greg Monroe, a sign & trade wouldnít appear necessary.

Knicks should do this deal. From the Pistons persoective it's really about how much they still value Jennings. Because it's obvious that Jennings is a thousand times better than Hardaway but his injury, lowering his value, might have helped us. Plus Detroit seems strict on keeping Reggie Jackson there and that would be too many minutes at PG.

The fact that Hardaways dad is involves in the organization says a lot.

Come on Broadway that's a good trade, your pick (13) is still in the lottery and you get Bledsoe. Bledsoe was one of only 11 players last season to average over 24 points, eight assist, and two steals per 100 possessions.

Only thing is he puts a big dent in your cap space and he's not a big. Still think you have to do it, he's young and a stud.

Come on Broadway that's a good trade, your pick (13) is still in the lottery and you get Bledsoe. Bledsoe was one of only 11 players last season to average over 24 points, eight assist, and two steals per 100 possessions.

Only thing is he puts a big dent in your cap space and he's not a big. Still think you have to do it, he's young and a stud.

Explain how he fits in the triangle if none of the current guards outside of Russell do? He's not a ball mover, he's short, he's not a great defender, he makes about $14mil/yr.

Unless we're sending Calderon(which I'm not sure that's what Phx is looking for in return) this trade is only good on paper because of Bledsoe being a known commodity.

Maybe pick #10 and a starter is doable, and a starter with a good contract. I could tolerate maybe Lawson and higher pick over this trade. It's an okay trade but doesn't move the needle enough.

And why would Phx try to move him if he's such a stud for an unproven player, especially when they just gave him a new deal?