Excuse my english, I am not American and this is not my foreign language.
The reason why a lot of Black people have not been responding to your thread is because the majority of Black American people are not ''Afrocentrists''! I wouldn't go over 2% in secularly. You need to go to Sub saharan Africa and ask some of them. I reside in Nigeria formally Eygypt, and I know many Africans who are. However, you are not very respectful of other peoples views. Regardless of whether YOU think its dumb, anyones beliefs and choices should be respected.

Afrocentric beliefs DO not follow a logical belief. It is that of a cultural Pseudo historical one that is a basic belief for many Africans spiritually. It is even used in some instances of ''Black supremacy''. While I, and the majority of Blacks do not agree with Afrocentrism I find it quite irrelevent that you try to Downscript a spiritual OCCULTED belief with logical Facts, when such beliefs are obviously unidentifiable to majority blacks and people, and most certainly not followed as a whole. Most of their beleifs are not even argumentative to be legit or broken down in what would require historical proof. However, you do not have the right to tell anyone that they are ''stupid'' for believing in such. It is there cultural business, not yours. Would you go back and tell Greeks that they are ''so stupid'' for believing in Gods or early Europeans because the world is flat according to them?(referring to an earlier post by you) Or do you only downplay Afrocentrism because it deals with a Black majority Idea?(I said Black majority, not majority of Blacks.) So its OK to teach White kids about Greeks and their falselties in which Black kids have to learn also in school, but it is NOT OK for White kids to learn about Afrocentric beleifs as a simple basic part of African history and set of beleifs to which a people culturally believes in. When a group of people build a foundation based on a set of beliefs, then it becomes history regardless of how ''false'' it may be. (Greeks,Gods, Salem witch trials all false beleifs but historically renowned situations just as Afrocentrists).

Shall you respond in your typical WN rant, Insulting me like WNS naturally do;I have spoken my peace and do not Intend to reply to the nonsense you will write at this time unless it is mature. I would love to share more about these beliefs and the beliefs of Blacks if you wish. However, most of what I have read on this board are false and badly faulted by White Nationalists.

Did you know that in many tribes and parts of Africa, an Afrocentrist is referred to as ''wytomhk'', meaning ''the lost one''?

'Kouignt', my friend. You are blantly holding Afrocentric beliefs against Black people as a Race opposed to simply disputing the Beliefs themselves. Everytime you make a statement, you hold it to a racial joke. And you hold this to such because to be quite blunt my WN friend---- you dislike Black people as a whole. However, you need to be aware that MOST black people,NOT EVEN CLOSE are not associated with Afrocentrism, therefore do not expect many to be able to speak for such. Thats like me associating majority of White people in the world with the KKK. Seeing as though in the midst of your arguments and rants, you make Racial assumptions and talk about, how'd you say it..., ''eygptuns n sheyt', I find you character and words to be Incoherent blather therefore incapable of simply discussing our differences in culture.

It Is not the wish of The Afrocentrist to argue and rant back and forth with you. but rather talk peacefully. I'd rather go smoke my herb, which is a plant and resource provided by God than to waste my time on a angry White Nationalist. One Love.

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Re: The Afrocentrism Thread

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Originally Posted by TheJamaicanAfrocentrist

'Kouignt', my friend. You are blantly holding Afrocentric beliefs against Black people as a Race opposed to simply disputing the Beliefs themselves. Everytime you make a statement, you hold it to a racial joke. And you hold this to such because to be quite blunt my WN friend---- you dislike Black people as a whole. However, you need to be aware that MOST black people,NOT EVEN CLOSE are not associated with Afrocentrism, therefore do not expect many to be able to speak for such. Thats like me associating majority of White people in the world with the KKK. Seeing as though in the midst of your arguments and rants, you make Racial assumptions and talk about, how'd you say it..., ''eygptuns n sheyt', I find you character and words to be Incoherent blather therefore incapable of simply discussing our differences in culture.

It Is not the wish of The Afrocentrist to argue and rant back and forth with you. but rather talk peacefully. I'd rather go smoke my herb, which is a plant and resource provided by God than to waste my time on a angry White Nationalist. One Love.

Strong cop-out.

In other words:

"I know these beliefs are stupid, but I still have them because they give me a warm fuzzy feeling coz I be egypshun n sheet"

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Re: The Afrocentrism Thread

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Originally Posted by Nawakeya

Excuse my english, I am not American and this is not my foreign language.
The reason why a lot of Black people have not been responding to your thread is because the majority of Black American people are not ''Afrocentrists''! I wouldn't go over 2% in secularly. You need to go to Sub saharan Africa and ask some of them. I reside in Nigeria formally Eygypt, and I know many Africans who are. However, you are not very respectful of other peoples views. Regardless of whether YOU think its dumb, anyones beliefs and choices should be respected.

Afrocentric beliefs DO not follow a logical belief. It is that of a cultural Pseudo historical one that is a basic belief for many Africans spiritually. It is even used in some instances of ''Black supremacy''. While I, and the majority of Blacks do not agree with Afrocentrism I find it quite irrelevent that you try to Downscript a spiritual OCCULTED belief with logical Facts, when such beliefs are obviously unidentifiable to majority blacks and people, and most certainly not followed as a whole. Most of their beleifs are not even argumentative to be legit or broken down in what would require historical proof. However, you do not have the right to tell anyone that they are ''stupid'' for believing in such. It is there cultural business, not yours. Would you go back and tell Greeks that they are ''so stupid'' for believing in Gods or early Europeans because the world is flat according to them?(referring to an earlier post by you) Or do you only downplay Afrocentrism because it deals with a Black majority Idea?(I said Black majority, not majority of Blacks.) So its OK to teach White kids about Greeks and their falselties in which Black kids have to learn also in school, but it is NOT OK for White kids to learn about Afrocentric beleifs as a simple basic part of African history and set of beleifs to which a people culturally believes in. When a group of people build a foundation based on a set of beliefs, then it becomes history regardless of how ''false'' it may be. (Greeks,Gods, Salem witch trials all false beleifs but historically renowned situations just as Afrocentrists).

Shall you respond in your typical WN rant, Insulting me like WNS naturally do;I have spoken my peace and do not Intend to reply to the nonsense you will write at this time unless it is mature. I would love to share more about these beliefs and the beliefs of Blacks if you wish. However, most of what I have read on this board are false and badly faulted by White Nationalists.

Did you know that in many tribes and parts of Africa, an Afrocentrist is referred to as ''wytomhk'', meaning ''the lost one''?

What exactly are you talking about? Most Blacks in America actually believe the propaganda that ancient Egyptians, Phoenicians, and Greeks were black. Afrocentrism is widely spread whether you want to believe it or not.

What exactly are you talking about? Most Blacks in America actually believe the propaganda that ancient Egyptians, Phoenicians, and Greeks were black. Afrocentrism is widely spread whether you want to believe it or not.

Exactly. I don't know where these people get the idea that only Africans are Afrocentrists and not Black Americans. Afrocentrism started in American among blacks, to ashamed of their true heritage and Most American blacks DO seem to buy into that propaganda that the Egyptians were black; just take a look at "The Race of the Ancient Egyptians" thread, here on Stormfront.

What exactly are you talking about? Most Blacks in America actually believe the propaganda that ancient Egyptians, Phoenicians, and Greeks were black. Afrocentrism is widely spread whether you want to believe it or not.

It depends on what type of Afrocentrism it is. The militant Afrocentrist would go almost to claim everything from the Mongols to the Greeks being originaly Black. However some Afrocentrists are more realistic and claim groups that only come from Africa such as the Egyptians, Carthagians, Moors, Berbers, not even Arabs are included in this. Afrocentrism belives are not uniform, infact their is division within it, and each belive differes from the other. Some Blacks don't see Afrocentrism having a helping effect but rather a harmful to their community so they focus on Nubia, Axum, and some civilizations that occured in West Africa such as the Ghana empire, Songai empire, Ashanti, weather this areas are civilization or quasi-civilizations is still being debated by African Studies historians.

Exactly. I don't know where these people get the idea that only Africans are Afrocentrists and not Black Americans. Afrocentrism started in American among blacks, to ashamed of their true heritage and Most American blacks DO seem to buy into that propaganda that the Egyptians were black; just take a look at "The Race of the Ancient Egyptians" thread, here on Stormfront.

CelticS what you need to understand it that there are different forms and beliefs agmonst Afrocentrism. And Afrocentrism Itself is not of one form, or one belief origin. I think the form of Afrocentrism that you are referring to agmonst American Blacks is the main one that derived from Black nationalists/Panthers.(although there are other ones not so popular) Thier beliefs are in some way similiar to those In Africa, but the main product of Afrocentrism actually started in Africa before some African American's adopted such for their own achievements and beliefs in Racial affairs.. Therefore, all Afrocentrists do not believe in the same things, American Blacks as a whole do not OVERWHELMINGLY beleive that Eygyptians or even think about the idea of them Being Black or not. Quite simple, Black Americans can careless about epyptians whether they may or may not have been Black or not majority. Also, I don't see how you can say that ''Most America Blacks DO seem to buy into..) When you don't know Many blacks or MOST Blacks at all!(face to face,friendship to friendship) I would suppose you communicate, COMMUNICATE with MORE Blacks for the most part and ask them their take on situations. You will be surprised by the many who will say '' I don't know, don't care''. Many Black Americans are not Aware of their African ancestry as a whole yet alone Afrocentrism.

You seem like a legit person as far as learning and studying theology and history goes(I'm only guessing Its an interest to you, I could be incorrect, I tend to get vibes from people after reading or listening to much of what they say). Your only problem Is that you don't listen or get overall views of others Beliefs or cultures. And if you do, you take such and you rant and insult childishly about someone else because their cultures or beleif is not like yours, espesially other Races. Rather you like it or not, you could learn alot of Interesting things about other cultures that also seem Pseudo to you, from Ancient Chinese beliefs, to Eygyptians, back down to Mesopotamia. In all these cultures, you will find things that seem Just as strange as Afrocentrism to you. You just have to learn how to take these beliefs and be openminded about them, not BELIEVE in It, but respect It and understand.

What exactly are you talking about? Most Blacks in America actually believe the propaganda that ancient Egyptians, Phoenicians, and Greeks were black. Afrocentrism is widely spread whether you want to believe it or not.

Let them as they may think whatever. What does that have to do with you? is most of your focus on blacks and what they think? as far as it being taught to Whites, SO WHAT!

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Originally Posted by CelticSicilian

So, you believe that it's okay the teach lies as truth?

Exactly. I hope everyone doesn't think like that! "Just let it be" is why we're seeing the downfall of white civilization -- because no one wanted to do anything about it when they should have been doing something about it (and to do that requires rethinking & tackling every aspect of life, not being lazy and ignoring it.) After reading that previous post, I wish we could hand out negative points. But I see the account's been disabled anyway.

HAHAHHA! You all need to get out more, talk to different people and stop assuming you know everything.

Is that the same anti as before? Sounds similar....

The two sentences above could be added to the list of "typical anti remarks" (if they have not already been.) One, a ridiculous typed out laugh (usually in caps) (obviously meant to be derogatory--getting laughed at in our virtual face); then a remark that we "need to get out more"... as if we don't have lives beyond the computer or ever talk to anyone -- never minding the fact that people must work to pay for internet accounts, have social lives, etc., so we're already "out" -- or that we're incapable of discerning truth from BS (hence we're being called stupid). This cuts right to the adage that people of different races think differently. It's that ability, of white-bred minds -- to sense truth in the nature of the universe, and to know, down deep, when it's right or wrong, because it resonates -- which confounds them. It goes beyond being an alien concept to them. They lack it. I doubt they can even conceive of it.