The game wasn't the only thing Republicans were betting on Super Bowl Sunday.They knew Colorado Democrats were going to unveil their gun package that week at the Capitol, and speculation mounted on what would be in it.They. Were. Shocked. Senate President John Morse, a Colorado Springs Democrat, announced he was working on a bill that would hold manufacturers and sellers...

". . . David Keene, president of the National Rifle Association, dismissed the liability legislation as 'ridiculous' and 'feel-good' during his visit to Colorado on Thursday."

The NRA's position does not include anything that can be called "feel-good." Guns inevitably will cause people to feel bad or be dead. And gun rights advocates, do not pull out your treasonous need to save yourself from our democracy.

The Democrats in Colorado agree on one thing: unlimited spending of taxpayer dollars is just fine with them and to Hell with the facts!

We do know this; everything they have proposed is blatantly unconstitutional. The legal fees to defend such blatantly illegal proposals will be staggering. Just look at this article http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323951904578290460073953432.html?mod=WSJ_article_comments#articleTabs%3Darticle.It is quite plain to see they are bypassing any proposal which might actually work to promote the same old, illegal, agenda. Yes, something could be done, like recognizing the choice for school boards, superintendents, and principals to use the talent they already have within their schools to defend children. The recent mass insult, implying no school teachers or employees are competent to defend children, demonstrates how the Leftists in the state are only looking to expand the issue versus propose or permit actual solutions. Why waste time fixing the problem with obvious solutions when you can, once again, punish people who have done nothing wrong?

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Before you worry about making gun manufacturers liable for something legally sold that they can NOT control AFTER that point; make car manufacturers, since cars kill MANY more than guns do, liable for deaths involving cars AFTER they are legally sold, and/or the gas companies that sell the gas they run on.

THIS makes at least as much sense as the other STUPID idea.

I do NOT own any "military style assault weapons", whatever THEY are, but think the entire idea is ridiculous; and if THIS is among the ideas the government comes up with, it is definitely a case of the inmates running the asylum.

Over the past 40 years of high level involvement in local government, this is the worst example of legislation I have seen. These people simply don't get it. Just like frivolous lawsuits, let's make legislators who file frivolous legislation responsible to repay the cost incurred by the legislative body dealing with their idiocy.

I just read two things that were inaccurate. First, Evie Hudak was wrong to characterize semi-automatic AR15s as "made of the battlefield." No military in the world carries semi-automatic AR15s, they merely look similar to the types of weapons that are carried by the US military, but operate much differently. Seconds, Morse was wrong to mention 6 year-olds being killed. Contrary to original reports, it has now been established that the Newtown shooting did not involved an AR15 except for the one sitting in the shooter's trunk, which did not kill anyone.

We are fortunate in Colorado to have some democrats that exhibit a modicum of common sense and intellect like Ed Vigil and other pro Second Amendment democrats on this hot button issue. Unlike this clown Morse who in his attempts to demonize and destroy the firearm industry through an illegal legislative process, which only appeals to the voters that gave us Morse and his ilk in the legislature in the first place.

Beware Morse in 2014, if you continue down this asinine and silly path, as irresponsible legislation does have consequences at the polls and unfortunately for you and your pandering ilk, most true Americans believe in the Second Amendment!

BTW;

Morse, a former police chief, said he wants his bill to pass and thinks it will.

Where was this guy a police chief of? Berkley, California?

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." -- Thomas Jefferson

It is absolutely insane to hold the manufacturer liable for misuse of a product. If this happens with guns, there are no limits to what manufacturers could be liable for. At what point are we going to hold individuals responsible? This is what happens when you legislate based on emotion.

Ronbo wrote:It is absolutely insane to hold the manufacturer liable for misuse of a product. If this happens with guns, there are no limits to what manufacturers could be liable for. At what point are we going to hold individuals responsible? This is what happens when you legislate based on emotion.

You do realize that this is he way it is now. Only gun manufacturers enjoy such immunity. So the slippery slope argument doesn't apply here.

domino wrote:". . . David Keene, president of the National Rifle Association, dismissed the liability legislation as 'ridiculous' and 'feel-good' during his visit to Colorado on Thursday."

The NRA's position does not include anything that can be called "feel-good." Guns inevitably will cause people to feel bad or be dead. And gun rights advocates, do not pull out your treasonous need to save yourself from our democracy.

James I presume you believe everyone that owns a gun or is in favor of the second amendment is a "gun rights advocates"? And speaking of "nuts" only a blithering person would make a statement like "Guns inevitably will cause people to feel bad or be dead."

We are fortunate in Colorado to have some democrats that exhibit a modicum of common sense and intellect like Ed Vigil and other pro Second Amendment democrats on this hot button issue. Unlike this clown Morse who in his attempts to demonize and destroy the firearm industry through an illegal legislative process, which only appeals to the voters that gave us Morse and his ilk in the legislature in the first place.

Beware Morse in 2014, if you continue down this asinine and silly path, as irresponsible legislation does have consequences at the polls and unfortunately for you and your pandering ilk, most true Americans believe in the Second Amendment!

BTW;

Morse, a former police chief, said he wants his bill to pass and thinks it will.

And you will continue to own guns even under the proposed legislation. But everyone I talk to in the normal world thinks the gun culture now is unsafe, and are tired of the problem being everyone's responsibility but the people who own or make guns. No one is taking responsibility in this discussion, but the rhetoric is deafening.

You have brains in your head.You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.- Dr. Suess

These bills are about making honest and responsible gun owners into criminals. And disarming the public.

In WWII, the primary German assault weapon for the infantry was a clip-fed bolt-action rifle with no flash suppressor. The clip held 5 rounds. The US Infantry and Marines primary assault weapon was a clip-fed semi-automatic M1 with no flash suppressor. The clip held 8 rounds.

Disarming the people is the first step to government tyranny. These bills have nothing to do with safety. Do not trust legislators. Trust government even less.

There is an incorrect presumption in this article that the NRA only supports Republicans. For example; The NRA and Harry Reid (D NV)worked together to build a large shooting center in Nevada.The only ones pushing for more gun regulations are extreme lefties.

We need to make every Democrat voting yea for these proposals pay in 2014 and into 2016. We shall see how the grassroots fair in this new political arena, as there are now more volunteer gun owners then ever before that WANT to become politically active. We are taking aim and have the traitors in our sights!