On switching to icewm there is a name-less window that loads and can't be closed. This doesn't happen if icewm is started as "startx icewm" as opposed to "startx icewm-session".

Also 4 instances of /usr/share/icewm/startup are running according to ps. It seems as though there is a startup instance for each of freememapplet-tray, xpad, icemtray and parcellite. This can be confirmed by killing each of these processes and running ps.

hi jcoder just wonder are you trying this version with 'puppy pfix=ram'??
I think you might be pulling up some previous save file stuff.
I didn't get the extra opened window when booting up, just finally got alpha 4 up and running 2 minutes ago, plus I have blinky and freememory working like it should,
lol I need to run puppy pfix=ram also I just noticed i have some printing options. Must be in my pupsave file.
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ok I loaded up without my pupsave file, Icewm loads perfectly, I would like to get rid of the xpad splash screen, its nice having xpad on the taskbar but splash screens are a pain.
It did load to the right right IceWm theme which is good, I have tooooooo many hard drive icons on my desktop, here's a pic.
I'll start on cups now.
ttuuxxx

Hey WhoDO did you remove the shutdown menu again?? it was part of the /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.icewm_menu in the latest icewm package
if anyone wants to see the shutdown menu,
open a console and type
shutdown
it will apear
also since the /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.icewm_menu menu has been changed we have lost the refresh icons in the menu
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if you look at the image I posted, I have freememory applet, it says 8.9 gigs. because I'm not using my large pupsave file yet
the only thing I closed before the image was taken was the xpad splash screen. So thats what a pristine looking default boot should look like. I don't know why you don't have free memory applet, what happens when you click on the bin located
/root/my-applications/freememapplet_tray_puppy215ce/freememapplet-tray

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Oh, and one more little thing: What if I don't want an analog clock and a calendar on my desktop? How do I get rid of them?

Clear pwidgets and Apply - imo, this should be user-set and not a default startup on initial boot. Also if it's like it was in a1 and I believe a3, it has a script in /root/Startup dir that may still run fixwidgets ..

*yawn*, dl on dialup is taking even more forever than previously (8 hours now and still only 30% )

pmount isn't working properly, its not letting me mount my sata2 hard drive, this is a first for puppy
also I thought the reason why we have tcl/tk was to get mut working, well the gui doesn't work either for mut, the command line does, ummmmm maybe I can see a alpha 5 emerging, lol
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ok I compiled mut2/pmount and removed the mut since it didn't work, and then i tried the pmount, well that works, but its the older version, but atleast I can use my sata2 again, the problem is that I have to click on usr/sbin/pmount If i use the desktop icon, it opens the file too quick and doesn't actually read what the system has, but if I go to usr/sbin/pmount
and click on that with this pet installed, it works, minus some icons that were removed from puppy. I think the main issue is the desktop drives issue that I had too many icons, if anyone has the same issue install the pmount below and use usr/sbin/pmount to run the application.
ttuuxxx

Is there a particular reason for not using the 'flat' look on the default IceWM theme (sorry, I forgot the name). While I was testing it I change it to flat (I think it was gtk) and it looked much nicer. Otherwise the borders on the taskbar buttons are kinda choppy.

@WhoDo: Maybe you should set up Qemu and give the isos a quick test-run with it before uploading them, so you can verify for sure whether or not your partitions were included before it's uploaded. When you use Qemu, it doesn't see your partitions anymore, so if they still turn up, you know something is wrong. Just a thought. Qemu is also really handy for testing things like the boot scripts, so that you don't have to actually keep rebooting your machine over and over. It made things much easier for me when I was doing that Syslinux stuff.

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Is there a particular reason for not using the 'flat' look on the default IceWM theme (sorry, I forgot the name). While I was testing it I change it to flat (I think it was gtk) and it looked much nicer. Otherwise the borders on the taskbar buttons are kinda choppy.

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yes the flat is zigberts creatation, and its general problem with icon issues, I also like the icons better, could you please take an image and circle what you call 'taskbar buttons are kinda choppy' with mt paint please so I can have a look at it, If you mean the quick launch icons, thats could be changed easily.
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We still have the plethora of partition icons on the desktop - most of which are null (warning road-sign).

Not a big problem, but neither is it a fixed one.

Far out! I removed the personal drive settings from PuppyPin in my packages directory but must have forgotten to do the same in the rootfs-complete directory from which I built the modified pup_420.2fs file. Just open /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin and delete the drive assignments. When you restart X they'll be detected correctly for your machine. {mutter, mutter, mutter ... grumble, grumble, fricken fracken computers ...grrrrr} *sigh* I'm okay now! _________________Actions speak louder than words ... and they usually work when words don't!
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[quote="ttuuxxx". I don't know why you don't have free memory applet, what happens when you click on the bin located
/root/my-applications/freememapplet_tray_puppy215ce/freememapplet-tray
....[/quote]

I just wanted to let you know I have occasionally had the same problem with freememapplet with the 4.1.2 Puppy version running JWM.

The little "unknown" black box in the upper left corner reported by someone earlier IS the freememapplet detached from the task bar and floating around on the desktop, but when it happens in JWM you can still read your free memory on it, and in iceWM it is just a black box.
It has happened to me under JWM after I have either installed or uninstalled packages and restarted JWM from the menu.

In the case of this 4.2a3 build it happened to me after I switched to iceWM from JWM and sometimes it is floating in the corner and other times it is gone completely.

So, at least in my case it was not isolated to iceWM or this 4.2 build.
Hope that helps you track it down.

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