When they tried her look with a test audience with normal sized eyes it didn’t go over well. Ironically they had a difficult time humanizing the character so the director said to make the eyes bigger so they could portray emotion in a more apparent manner. I honestly don’t think they eyes are bad, just different.
Funnily enough her eyes are bigger for the same reason eyes tend being larger in the original medium the work is from.

> [{quoted}](name=Paroe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FoH5L6TF,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-13T08:50:22.932+0000)
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> Isnt it amazing how scaling sustain works?
>
> Maybe you should take a nice long look at other scaling sustain. Like Fiora. And Riven. And maybe even good old warwick. And lifesteal.
Riven doesn’t have a single ounce of sustain in her kit????

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The support item changes arent to combat a "toxic or cancerous cheese strat top".
Theyre to combat the increased amount of vision that the strategy enabled.
Just another step in their moronic war on vision.

> [{quoted}](name=Paroe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Tu0VzhdE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-02-13T02:10:46.434+0000)
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> The support item changes arent to combat a "toxic or cancerous cheese strat top".
> Theyre to combat the increased amount of vision that the strategy enabled.
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> Just another step in their moronic war on vision.
I need my tin foil hat.

> [{quoted}](name=Rylalei,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nzwqBHvR,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-02-10T20:00:46.016+0000)
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> 2 seconds less on early W, and since he maxes that last, his laning is safer.
Considering how long it already is, I think 2 seconds off is fair.

How exactly did they make his early game safer? The only thing they changed is the second cast distance of W aside from some very minor damage buffs.
The way I see it, they want him to be able to splitpush again like he did in season 4 and 5.

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I like to think of us as digimon.
I'm a rookie form that complains about one thing (Galios W) and sometimes other things
You're a champion form that complains about a few things at a time and tries to keep attention to Volibear.
D3stroy3R is an ultimate form (still dont know if I spell it right) complains about everything and is toxic 92% of the time and will never be happy with anything ever m.
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But with Trundle, I feel maybe they should give him another scaling somewhere in his Kit to push him back into the meta a bit and not just be the anti-stat check stat checker that he is, even though that's what his niche will prob always be (especially against Sejuani)

> [{quoted}](name=Galiö,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=K8vWkEjs,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-07T20:43:19.908+0000)
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> I like to think of us as digimon.
>
> I&#x27;m a rookie form that complains about one thing (Galios W) and sometimes other things
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> You&#x27;re a champion form that complains about a few things at a time and tries to keep attention to Volibear.
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> D3stroy3R is an ultimate form (still dont know if I spell it right) complains about everything and is toxic 92% of the time and will never be happy with anything ever m.
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> But with Trundle, I feel maybe they should give him another scaling somewhere in his Kit to push him back into the meta a bit and not just be the anti-stat check stat checker that he is, even though that&#x27;s what his niche will prob always be (especially against Sejuani)
Malicious Metal must be a digital Sovereign then.

> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9IKr9lE6,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-08T01:46:13.317+0000)
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> it solves almost all of the actual frustrations of the rune while keeping it relevant to the intended demographic
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> This is a great change
Right? Like it's so much better and also has more room for counterplay than the current iteration.

> [{quoted}](name=Super Cow Swag,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E1EAqxsi,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-02-07T05:23:20.575+0000)
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> She is pretty much immune to slows thanks to the ability to spam dashes which do not take movement speed into account, so if anything she is more resistant to cc than most champions in the game.
Her defensive utility is tied to her mobility as well, if you hard CC her, if affects her even more than other camps.

> [{quoted}](name=Dope Solo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E1EAqxsi,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-07T04:26:06.540+0000)
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> Like every other champion then?
Doesn't make the statement any less true.

> [{quoted}](name=Rester,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qN4bLjol,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-02-05T21:12:42.120+0000)
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> My question is why did it ship with 20% cd reduction on basic spells when it should&#x27;ve been lowered to 10-15% because that&#x27;s what the issue was with the old Essence Reaver?
Build path is worse, combat stats are lower, price is higher. The issue with ER was just how damn good of a rush item it was. This is going to be second item after cleaver for Riven most likely.
Shojin is going to be viable on more than just Riven and Renekton though.

> [{quoted}](name=Lhuhz,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bBcetojf,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-02-03T03:55:17.382+0000)
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> Eeeeeeeh did you saw the Sion nerf on PBE ?
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> I assume you didn&#x27;t.
I didn’t but, those nerfs aren’t going to solve his problem. It’s still a large amount of damage for a tank who becomes an unkillable wall in pro play because of infinite scaling HP.

> [{quoted}](name=OP Garen Support,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BkTcghBw,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-31T16:15:39.087+0000)
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> They talk about how hive minded boards are for supporting mages. Meanwhile all posts who does not want to gut them are downvoted.
> {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
You’re being downvoted because you’re being delusional and making factually incorrect statements.

> [{quoted}](name=AirKingNeo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8hE1QEmE,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-01-30T22:24:35.785+0000)
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> why would they remove conqueror?
They already said it’s in the air. And with the direction they’re taking the game, it’s the most likely outcome. But they did say it would see a replacement in a new fervor of battle.

> [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E9R3fMma,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-19T07:35:33.714+0000)
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> So you&#x27;re actually complaining that high skill cap champs have variance based on the skill of the user? Lol what?
That’s what I’m saying.
It’s like people all of a sudden want to remove skill expression from league.

> [{quoted}](name=ankoanko19,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8Je3EE70,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-01-04T07:45:19.868+0000)
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> Fervor of battle but instead of bonus AD it gives base AD so trinity users get stronger but it still wont be abused by Irelia, Fioras or Rivens abilities.
But fervor was designed for those kind of champions LOL.

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you dont understand. just like most "smart" riven players. she has the highest snowball potential in the game. in high elo she stomps any game she is in. and its not based on skill anymore its based on when she gets r and builds an essence reaver or lethality and r,q,w,q,e,q,r boom whole team dead. this isnt a one time stomp feast its every guckin game of riven she gets 1 kill and just snowballs or she goes 0 and 10 then 1 shots the 11/0 adc cause she got duskblade ignite like you gotta be ither a riven main or an idiot to not know

Alright, better call up Viper and Adrian and let them know they’re no skill faceroll challenger players.
Or better yet, the top laner who arguably secured victory for his team at worlds, The Shy? I assume you know him, real face roll kind of guy right?

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> [{quoted}](name=Brain Errör 404,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gER891Wu,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-12-30T00:21:37.589+0000)
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> Lol, go ahead and spam all your Q&#x27;s without a single auto attack on Riven and tell me how GG op your damage is.
Take Electrocute, press R, QWQQ {{summoner:14}} R
Dead enemy laner.
why? Because burst, want a little extra? {{item:3147}}
The only people surviving that are pure tanks or someone who popped their {{item:2420}}
Is it getting through yet? Burst is too easy to do, too easy to insta-gib in a single combo as long as you have the basics, which is detracting from the learning experience of these high skill ceiling champions.
Edit: If you're thinking in terms of DPS, the game isn't in a DPS meta, it's very much a burst one. You aren't going to top DPS charts, you are going to kill very quickly.

You have actually no idea how wrong you are and it’s very silly.
Don’t make accusations without doing your proper research. Riven’s passive Autos are probably the most important part of her kit for damage unless she’s insanely fed.
The difference between a good a Riven and bad Riven is night and day.
What you described is was Bad Riven’s do, and that’s how you lose games. Also Essence flare activation requires an auto attack, and no one runs electrocute on Riven except maybe if the enemy team is full squishies.

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> [{quoted}](name=Hi Im a Cat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AetPqEfm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-29T02:20:45.297+0000)
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> Smiting camps heals you.
Thats part of it im sure but does that account for such a Large amount of healing. That cant be the only factor

You do need to do your research before you start making false claims.
If you make a claim, the burden of proof falls upon yourself. It’s readily accessible information that he provided in response to Hashinshin.

It’s on Twitter. Do your research. Think.
If the subjects are between Hash and Blastoise, whom else’s Twitter might you find the data on.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Hashinshin/status/1074741848562896897

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two more sites where she has a better win rate but **STILL** no where near his pick rate? congratz you proved absolutely nothing like you have this entire time, name me a **TIER LIST** with her above thresh, win rate doesnt mean jack shit when his pick rate is over 20% above hers and every tier list puts him in the top spot above her
https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/tierlist/Support/
thresh is top tier, zyra isnt
https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/tierlist/Support/
thresh is top tier, zyra isnt
https://www.metasrc.com/5v5/tierlist/support
thresh is top tier, zyra isnt
wow now i have links that support my argument huh? oh! and morde has pretty much the best top lane win rate, 53-54%, does that mean hes the best top laner? no it doesnt, winrate alone isnt a sound argument and thats been proven before

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>Mages are broken right now, hands down.
The only problematic things about mages is Lost Chapter nullifying their mana problems, Oblivion Orb giving MPen instead of a weaker GW for a passive and CDR being too present.
One of those problems isn´t mage-only either. It's game wide.
>Inflated pick and win rates across the board.
Inflated pick and win rates received a term. META.
>Zyra is literally the best support in the game.
Right after Janna and Thresh.
>Assassins are losing out on mage matchups contrary to popular word of mouth around here.
Ahri is an assassin and the only mage she's losing to is Zoe and the statistics on that matchup are well into skill matchup area.
Akali is losing to several mages because Riot still refuses to remove the one thing that should NEVER have gone live. Her Obscure. And instead would rather nerf her numbers to shit.
Ekko is winning a lot more mage matchups than he is losing mage matchups.
Fizz is only losing against mages who can either keep him down, deny him a snowball or outright kill him before he can snowball.
Kassadin, out of 39 matchups, 5 are into skill matchup territory, making only 5 losing matchups. Five. And out of those 5, only 2 are mages.
Katarina is only really losing to Anivia, because the Lissandra, Ziggs, Cass and Annie matchups are skill matchups and Heimerdinger isn´t a mage.
LeBlanc is only losing to mages with either targeted and/or very large AoEs, which makes sense, because she grants 325g if she and her passive are killed.
Talon's not losing against any mages, and the skill matchups of Twisted Fate, Anivia and Malzahar are slightly in his favor. Slightly.
Finally, Zed is losing to the mages he always lost to.
But sure, assassins are losing out on mage matchups.
>Everyone complains about Akali and Irelia, nerf after nerf while they consistently continue to drop in performance.
Because Riot refuses to nerf the actual problems of those champions.
>Meanwhile some of these mage champs are reaching near 55% win rates on several members of the roster.
Anivia top has 55%+ winrate, with a minuscule pickrate of 0.3%.
Zilean and Taliyah mid have those winrates, with minuscule 1.3% and 0.4% pickrates. Hell, TARIC of all champions has a 56.4% winrate. Guess he's broken too.
The only lane you can probably say mages are "dominating" is bot lane, in the ADC role.
> If zed has that kind of winrate I’m pretty sure the complaining here would wake the dead.
The thing is, most of his mains just want to outright buff him when what he needs are changes. If they removed the CS AssistantTM from his W, they could buff him somewhere else.
>Just because you don’t play your champs properly doesn’t mean they’re bad.
Tell that to all the Sejuani mains.

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zyra doesnt have losing matchups according to one site, i can easily go to say counterstats.net and say "oh look here are some losing matchups" whereas i can go to pretty much any site and be shown that thresh is a better support on every tier list, gathering all your info from one site isnt a good way to go about spreading stats or forming a good opinion

Okay.
https://champion.gg/champion/Zyra/Support
Here's another site that she's still statistically better than Thresh on, and also has bonkers numbers on.
https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/overview/zyra/diamond
And another one, with all the numbers on champs being globally toned down a bit. *Still better than Thresh statistically.* Now I have three sources that say you're wrong.

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the same site that puts thresh 7 places higher than zyra on the support tier list? threshs winrate is dropped down a tad because he has a 28% pick rate compared to zyras 4-5% pick rate, your argument isnt sound its like if i said aatrox was the best top laner in the game pre rework because he had a pretty consistant 53-54% win rate

Thresh still has matchups that he statistically loses a over half of the time (9 to be exact.) Pick rate is in large part why he's higher on the tier list. He's simply a more popular champ in this regard.
Zyra doesn't have losing match-ups.

What about Xerath’s win rate? Or Brands? Or Neeko’s (insanely high release winrate), or vel koz.
The list goes on, they’re all statistically winning more than they should, especially for a class people consider “weak.”