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Re: OT: Mike Flanagan Passes Away

WBAL quoted sources close to the situation that he killed himself because he was upset that the community that he loved hated him and blamed him for the orioles woes when he was gm. That is so fucking sad. This is a very sad day for baltimore sports and community.

Re: OT: Mike Flanagan Passes Away

I was never a fan of the Flanagan-Beattie GM situation...but to say he deserved blame for the way the club turned out? no way!

There's only one man I'd blame for the way this club turned out. His name starts with an A and rhymes with "Jellose"

I'm hoping that report is untrue. Would kill me to think he ended it all over some silly notion that Baltimore forgot all his past glory over a few years of trying to guide the Titanic post-iceburg.

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“When I think of a Baltimore Raven - we go in there, we take your lunch box, we take your sandwich, we take your juice box, we take your applesauce, and we take your spork and we break it. And we leave you with an empty lunch. That’s the Baltimore Raven way.” - Steve Smith Sr.

Re: OT: Mike Flanagan Passes Away

I'm hearing that he was despondent over fan and colleague perception over his role in the downfall of the team. Unbelievable. If anything, he was glue that held the whole thing together.

A great Oriole. Always was, always will be.

Wonder what Angelos is thinking.

That would make me feel terrible, and a lot of other people feel terrible. Calling him Failed-Again and what not.

You think that when you ruthlessly criticize these people they are thick skinned, or don't pay any attention to it. You don't believe for a moment that the harsh things you say could have that kind of an impact.

The Orioles are such a model of incompetence that you don't really consider the human beings that are involved when just trashing everyone involved with that team day after day becomes the only way to vent frustration. I pray to God that Flanagan didn't consider himself so much of a professional failure at his post pitching career that it contributed to him taking his own life.

Re: OT: Mike Flanagan Passes Away

And how ironic is it that tonight, the night his body was discovered, was the first O's series win since JUNE?! Not to mention, the winning pitcher, Jeremy Guthrie, wears his #46 and was one of the guys Flanagan brought into the club as GM.

If anything has been learned in the past few seasons under McPhail, GM seems to have little impact on how the team is doing, since bringing in a new guy produced about the same results.

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“When I think of a Baltimore Raven - we go in there, we take your lunch box, we take your sandwich, we take your juice box, we take your applesauce, and we take your spork and we break it. And we leave you with an empty lunch. That’s the Baltimore Raven way.” - Steve Smith Sr.

Re: OT: Mike Flanagan Passes Away

Originally Posted by Ngata Nother Suggs

That would make me feel terrible, and a lot of other people feel terrible. Calling him Failed-Again and what not.

You think that when you ruthlessly criticize these people they are thick skinned, or don't pay any attention to it. You don't believe for a moment that the harsh things you say could have that kind of an impact.

The Orioles are such a model of incompetence that you don't really consider the human beings that are involved when just trashing everyone involved with that team day after day becomes the only way to vent frustration. I pray to God that Flanagan didn't consider himself so much of a professional failure at his post pitching career that it contributed to him taking his own life.

Those people don't know anything about Flanagan and what he gave to this team, this community. Like every other GM since Angelos ran Pat Gillick out of town (yes, I know he left but GM's don't just quit teams) has failed because Peter Angelos is a parriah.

Re: OT: Mike Flanagan Passes Away

Originally Posted by StingerNLG

Those people don't know anything about Flanagan and what he gave to this team, this community. Like every other GM since Angelos ran Pat Gillick out of town (yes, I know he left but GM's don't just quit teams) has failed because Peter Angelos is a parriah.

Mike Flanagan deserved better, and he damn sure didn't deserve this.

It's just sad because Flanny tried his best, and for whatever reason he was just viewed as another incompetent who didn't know what he was doing. Another guy hired to build Angelos a team on the cheap with no resources who didn't really care. Well, it looks like he cared. It looks like he cared a lot.