Comments on: Former player says Belichick paid him to start fights in practicehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/04/former-player-says-belichick-paid-him-to-start-fights/
ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.comTue, 31 Mar 2015 18:07:46 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: bozosforallhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/04/former-player-says-belichick-paid-him-to-start-fights/#comment-1373869
Tue, 08 Nov 2011 06:17:55 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=164940#comment-1373869tedmurph says:
Nov 4, 2011 11:47 PM
You can pretend Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy exists too, Hold your breath, close your eyes and wish as hard as you can. Only problem is, you don’t have your facts straight. Do some research, you’ll figure it out slappy. Cap includes top 53 active players on the roster plus injured reserve. NOT CAP PLAYERS! Period/end of story. You just don’t know what you’re talking about. As I’m sure you’ve been told. Many times.

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And you can pretend that you don’t don the Pats kneepads to orally service Tom Brady on a weekly basis too. Hold your breath, close your eyes, open your mouth and pray he doesn’t choke you. Do some research and you end up being the slappy. Cap only includes the top 53 in the OFFSEASON. In the REGULAR season, the practice squad counts against the cap. You just don’t know what you are talking about. As I’m sure your fellow idiot Pats fans have neglected to tell you. Many times. Because they are as stupid as you are.

Only the top 51 player salaries for a team count against the salary cap in the offseason. (Outstanding tenders apply.) During the season, all player salaries count toward the salary cap.”
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Almost had it. Once the season starts, top 53 players plus players on injured reserve count against the cap, instead of 51. This almost never includes practice squad players, unless they earn more than a player on the active foster. TB could do that w/Briscoe last yr because there was no cap. Bottom line is PS players almost never count against the cap. That’s a fact jack, w/o the spin.

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I didn’t make that up. It was reported that way in more than one article. No spin whatsoever. And the cap DOES include practice squad players, no matter how you want to deny it.

dabruinz says:
Nov 4, 2011 11:43 AM
@bleedgreen- practice squad salaries do count against the cap. There is nothing illegal as long as the money is accounted for. Which Eaton has no way of knowing and, per usual, PFT doesn’t bother to investigate.
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WRONG as usual, excusemaking Pats fans. Read it and weep (like the crybabies that you all are):

“The minimum weekly salary for practice squad players in 2011 (and 2012) is $5,700, an increase of $500 over the 2008-2010 rate. There is no limit to how much a team can pay a practice squad player. Several teams have enticed players with offers of increased pay, usually a few thousand dollars extra, to join or remain on their practice squad. Last season, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers gave wide receiver Dezmon Briscoe, a sixth-round pick of the Cincinnati Bengals, a practice squad salary of $319,991 to sign with them. Instances like that may be rare this season, as practice squad contracts count towards the salary cap.”
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Bozos, you are one of the leaders in the club house when it comes to bashing the Pats, etc, but isnt your post basically saying that Belichick isnt breaking any rules??? You said it yourself, “There is no limit to how much a team can pay a practice squad player.” So if BB wants to pay a practice squad guy $500 a week to light a fire in the team, he isnt doing anything wrong, right? Kind of surprised you would take the side of Belichick, just to stick it to a Pats fan. Isnt that like cutting off your nose to spite your face?

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Never said that he did anything wrong…so get your panties out of that wad. All I did was to show that any money counts towards the cap. However, if he isn’t reporting the money, it IS a violation of the reporting requirement (basically cheating).

Only the top 51 player salaries for a team count against the salary cap in the offseason. (Outstanding tenders apply.) During the season, all player salaries count toward the salary cap.”
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Almost had it. Once the season starts, top 53 players plus players on injured reserve count against the cap, instead of 51. This almost never includes practice squad players, unless they earn more than a player on the active foster. TB could do that w/Briscoe last yr because there was no cap. Bottom line is PS players almost never count against the cap. That’s a fact jack, w/o the spin.

dabruinz says:
Nov 4, 2011 11:43 AM
@bleedgreen- practice squad salaries do count against the cap. There is nothing illegal as long as the money is accounted for. Which Eaton has no way of knowing and, per usual, PFT doesn’t bother to investigate.
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WRONG as usual, excusemaking Pats fans. Read it and weep (like the crybabies that you all are):

“The minimum weekly salary for practice squad players in 2011 (and 2012) is $5,700, an increase of $500 over the 2008-2010 rate. There is no limit to how much a team can pay a practice squad player. Several teams have enticed players with offers of increased pay, usually a few thousand dollars extra, to join or remain on their practice squad. Last season, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers gave wide receiver Dezmon Briscoe, a sixth-round pick of the Cincinnati Bengals, a practice squad salary of $319,991 to sign with them. Instances like that may be rare this season, as practice squad contracts count towards the salary cap.”
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Bozos, you are one of the leaders in the club house when it comes to bashing the Pats, etc, but isnt your post basically saying that Belichick isnt breaking any rules??? You said it yourself, “There is no limit to how much a team can pay a practice squad player.” So if BB wants to pay a practice squad guy $500 a week to light a fire in the team, he isnt doing anything wrong, right? Kind of surprised you would take the side of Belichick, just to stick it to a Pats fan. Isnt that like cutting off your nose to spite your face?

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Fri, 04 Nov 2011 20:29:19 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=164940#comment-1368618I have zero issue with this. For those of you want to hate on him, anything you can find thinks it justifies your hatred. How much is extra money? It was as little as a couple hundred dollars to a practice player. If you seriously take issue with this, I am guessing Tim Tebow is your favorite player.
]]>By: j0esixpackhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/04/former-player-says-belichick-paid-him-to-start-fights/#comment-1368590
Fri, 04 Nov 2011 20:16:36 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=164940#comment-1368590The haters have convinced me that the Patriots 16-0 record after Spygate proves they can’t win without cheating.
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Fri, 04 Nov 2011 20:10:30 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=164940#comment-1368583More clearly stated:

“Who falls under the Salary Cap?

Answer: The “Team Salary” falls under the Salary Cap. Team salary includes the amount a team must pay its current or former players under their player contracts. Notice emphasis on the word PLAYERS. The salary cap does not apply to coaches, assistants, trainers, and other personnel. Only the top 51 player salaries for a team count against the salary cap in the offseason. (Outstanding tenders apply.) During the season, all player salaries count toward the salary cap.”

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Fri, 04 Nov 2011 20:03:53 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=164940#comment-1368575dabruinz says:
Nov 4, 2011 11:43 AM
@bleedgreen- practice squad salaries do count against the cap. There is nothing illegal as long as the money is accounted for. Which Eaton has no way of knowing and, per usual, PFT doesn’t bother to investigate.
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WRONG as usual, excusemaking Pats fans. Read it and weep (like the crybabies that you all are):

“The minimum weekly salary for practice squad players in 2011 (and 2012) is $5,700, an increase of $500 over the 2008-2010 rate. There is no limit to how much a team can pay a practice squad player. Several teams have enticed players with offers of increased pay, usually a few thousand dollars extra, to join or remain on their practice squad. Last season, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers gave wide receiver Dezmon Briscoe, a sixth-round pick of the Cincinnati Bengals, a practice squad salary of $319,991 to sign with them. Instances like that may be rare this season, as practice squad contracts count towards the salary cap.”

]]>By: dan39564http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/04/former-player-says-belichick-paid-him-to-start-fights/#comment-1368508
Fri, 04 Nov 2011 19:41:48 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=164940#comment-1368508Don’t know about the extra money part; But Don Shula did this on a regular basis when he Coached the Baltimore Colts, Woe the poor soul who had to pick a fight with Mike Curtis! But it was a regular friday occurance!

So this in not just a Belichec thing, it is a common practice, most players just don’t tell out of school!

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Fri, 04 Nov 2011 19:41:36 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=164940#comment-1368506Non-comments on a non-story that, if it was of any validity, it would be topical in the late nineties! Duh, in case you forgot it is 2011 and tiny stunts like these pale in comparison to paying RB Chris Johnson all that money to be the world’s biggest bust now that he is rich… now that’s a scandal. He’ll never have another 100 yard game or 1,000 yard season…
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Fri, 04 Nov 2011 19:27:58 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=164940#comment-1368464Why is our country turning into a collection of tattletales?
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Fri, 04 Nov 2011 19:21:01 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=164940#comment-1368439lol@ Salary cap violation talk. I bet this guy wasn’t paid enough to even sniff the cap, let alone break it. A couple of hundred bucks to start a fight would help a lot of guys out.
]]>By: hotep999http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/04/former-player-says-belichick-paid-him-to-start-fights/#comment-1368415
Fri, 04 Nov 2011 19:16:02 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=164940#comment-1368415amazing people see this as cheating!!! dude was on the practice squad which does not count against the salary cap.
]]>By: keakuamaihttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/04/former-player-says-belichick-paid-him-to-start-fights/#comment-1368396
Fri, 04 Nov 2011 19:10:07 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=164940#comment-1368396I honestly don’t know what the big deal is if this were true, I mean, so what?

It’s a known fact that they have such a role player in hockey, an enforcer, why shouldn’t football have a shat stirrer?