Rain Partier

I guess not. I was trying to find some kind of logic to the scene. I guess, then, it was meant as a chauvinistic attack on Batgirl. Terrorize her first and then force her to cook.

How do the editors allow this crap to get into print?

Imagine being the artist, and you get whatever passes for a script or outline for that issue. It's the big, dramatic first contact between Joker and Batgirl since she regained the use of her legs. And you're drawing Batgirl making a sandwich.

Rain Partier

I guess not. I was trying to find some kind of logic to the scene. I guess, then, it was meant as a chauvinistic attack on Batgirl. Terrorize her first and then force her to cook.

How do the editors allow this crap to get into print?

Imagine being the artist, and you get whatever passes for a script or outline for that issue. It's the big, dramatic first contact between Joker and Batgirl since she regained the use of her legs. And you're drawing Batgirl making a sandwich.

Outhouse Editor

GLX wrote:My memory of the first hardcover is a bit hazy, but aren't all of the villains from then to now mostly victims of some traumatic event?

Yes, and they're all characteristics of Barbara's own traumatic event.

Eli Katz wrote:

I guess not. I was trying to find some kind of logic to the scene. I guess, then, it was meant as a chauvinistic attack on Batgirl. Terrorize her first and then force her to cook.

How do the editors allow this crap to get into print?

The same reason somehow this gets put within it's pages.

Victorian Squid wrote:Imagine being the artist, and you get whatever passes for a script or outline for that issue. It's the big, dramatic first contact between Joker and Batgirl since she regained the use of her legs. And you're drawing Batgirl making a sandwich.

The event is made even more superfluous now. What was the point of the event? Nothing happened save everyone in their own respective books got owned by the Joker. The great big moment this book was building too a rematch with the man who paralyzed her.. floundered horribly.

Outhouse Editor

GLX wrote:My memory of the first hardcover is a bit hazy, but aren't all of the villains from then to now mostly victims of some traumatic event?

Yes, and they're all characteristics of Barbara's own traumatic event.

Eli Katz wrote:

I guess not. I was trying to find some kind of logic to the scene. I guess, then, it was meant as a chauvinistic attack on Batgirl. Terrorize her first and then force her to cook.

How do the editors allow this crap to get into print?

The same reason somehow this gets put within it's pages.

Victorian Squid wrote:Imagine being the artist, and you get whatever passes for a script or outline for that issue. It's the big, dramatic first contact between Joker and Batgirl since she regained the use of her legs. And you're drawing Batgirl making a sandwich.

The event is made even more superfluous now. What was the point of the event? Nothing happened save everyone in their own respective books got owned by the Joker. The great big moment this book was building too a rematch with the man who paralyzed her.. floundered horribly.

sdsichero wrote:I especially like and admire Zechs. He's everything I wish I could be!

OMCTO

Victorian Squid wrote:Imagine being the artist, and you get whatever passes for a script or outline for that issue. It's the big, dramatic first contact between Joker and Batgirl since she regained the use of her legs. And you're drawing Batgirl making a sandwich.

I'm sure that Brian Bolland was upset that he didn't have the opportunity to illustrate that issue.

OMCTO

Victorian Squid wrote:Imagine being the artist, and you get whatever passes for a script or outline for that issue. It's the big, dramatic first contact between Joker and Batgirl since she regained the use of her legs. And you're drawing Batgirl making a sandwich.

I'm sure that Brian Bolland was upset that he didn't have the opportunity to illustrate that issue.

rubber spoon

Explain it? In an effort to, once again, reboot the DCU, editors decided to revert to the Silver Age Batgirl. To soften a predictable backlash from Oracle fans, they gave the job to the writer most associated with the character. I tried the first trade and the #0 issue. It was pretty terrible. I'm not surprised they tried to fire her. Given all the other changes they've made it would have worked better if they'd just forgotten about Oracle and the Joker crippling her altogether and rebooted the Gordon version of the character from scratch. A Batgirl: Year One remake.

rubber spoon

Explain it? In an effort to, once again, reboot the DCU, editors decided to revert to the Silver Age Batgirl. To soften a predictable backlash from Oracle fans, they gave the job to the writer most associated with the character. I tried the first trade and the #0 issue. It was pretty terrible. I'm not surprised they tried to fire her. Given all the other changes they've made it would have worked better if they'd just forgotten about Oracle and the Joker crippling her altogether and rebooted the Gordon version of the character from scratch. A Batgirl: Year One remake.