Monday, March 12, 2007

Belly Up to the Bar

(aka, ID is going belly-up...)---UPDATED: Of course, if you prefer more dignified discussions (as opposed to just digs at the UDudes), you can head to this one at the Triumvirate.---OMnG, if you aren't at the official Uncommonly Dense Discussion Thread at After the Bar Closes, you're really missing out. This is where the laughs are. Click here to join the ongoing diss-cussion.

Patrick at "Overwhelmingevidence.com" (another Dembski brainfahrtchild):To an observer looking at the evidence, the result can look a lot like structures somehow modifying themselves over the course of generations (perhaps through the hocus pocus of natural selection), but anyone with any sense can see that these are modifications of underlying designs that came from OUTSIDE the natural world

Oldmanintheskydidntdoit:My Bold! It's classic stuff. I mean, how credulous is Patrick anyway? Is he like 13 years old? I think he just accepts the premise that is just is that way and everything else is just filling in the details. I mean, sombody told him something years ago

Patrick:because accepting them as being designed would upset historical narratives (they're older than they "should be").

Oldmanintheskydidntdoit:And forever more things are as they "should be" and if not you are wrong! muh-huh! Man, I'm learning so much about science at Dembski's trogs. Yeah, evolution's going to be dead soon.

Faylen:I'm all confused now. I thought all the canyons and mountains and everything were carved out by Noah's flood. If that's not Intelligent Design, I don't know what is. Filtering that explanation will lead down a slippery slope, I tell ya.

Me:Not to mention that the "undesigned" pretty mountains are Michael Behe's control for detecting "design" in "designed" thingies, like mousetraps and flagella.Actually, this development is hilarious. It throws the whole EF and irreducible complexity into the canyon. If everything's designed, how are you supposed to be able to tell?

2ndclass (being facetious):Silly Kristine. Not all mountains are designed. Only the pretty ones.

7 Comments:

Anonymous said...

Those folks over at Uncommonly Dense just don't get it. They fail to follow their assumptions to their logical conclusions. Once they claim that Gawd dunnit, they won't ask the next question, "Who made Gawd?"

You're not supposed to say that the Designer is God! They're keeping that a secret!

Don't you get the secret memos? Whenever anyone asks who the Designer is, you're supposed to say, "Doi, we dunno who He - I mean it - I mean, She/He/it [but don't say that too fast!] is."

Unless, of course, you know the secret handshake. (Actually, I think Dembski has a pleasant voice. I guess that's how I can fucking sit through the stuff that he says! Evolutionary biologists have "no wonder of nature"? What?)

It's funny, the folks at UD use that big G word so frequently, I don't know how they can turn around and say ID isn't religion with a straight face. Heck, even resident "agnostic" DaveScot has been throwing it around quite a bit lately. Th' scripture-quotin' an' heathen-bashin' ain't gonna help 'em nex' time Dembski decides (again) he's not getting paid enough to defend ID in court.

You said it, Alison! I wish, at least, if someone tells them that “I’m not plunged into despair because I don't believe in God,” they would just accept that and quit arguing the point: If you’re a Darwinist and you’re not a nihilist, then you’re just stupid! (Yes, they actually say those things.) It has become so infantile at Uncommon Descent that at times I run out of jokes—and when I run out of jokes, that’s saying something.

The “Suck up to Darwin” poetry contest was really their lowest point yet. Crap, that was lower even than the “Judge Jones School of Law” fartarama. But if that’s how these guys want to be remembered, then I’ve no problem helping people remember them. Many Americans don’t remember the Little Rock “Creation Science” trial, but I do—what a parade of freaks that was—but hopefully, with the Internet, we can help people have longer memories so that they don’t keep falling for the “Evolution is on its way out” lie again and again.

That's why I started the countdown to "Evolution is Dead in 10 Years" - I didn't say it, Dembski did. Okay, let's count down the years, everybody. Assuming this blog continues for the next decade I'm going to have one funny post on April 1, 2016!