I'm a neanderthal manYou're a neanderthal girlLet's make neanderthal loveIn this neanderthal world

I'm a neanderthal manYou're a neanderthal girlLet's make neanderthal loveIn this neanderthal world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg4sqA10Cs0

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Aphrodite Macbain: 's current display-name is "Aph".Mickorod Renard: Hi AphAphrodite Macbain: Hiya MickMickorod Renard: It was getting lonely hereMickorod Renard: :)Aphrodite Macbain: awwAphrodite Macbain: I expected more peopleMickorod Renard: so, tell me, how was Mexico?Aphrodite Macbain: Hot!Mickorod Renard: I saw a program the other day on migrants..it was very hotMickorod Renard: oppressiveAphrodite Macbain: nice. I was ina little town sousth of GuadalajaraAphrodite Macbain: Migrants from Mexico?Mickorod Renard: mmm,,can't say I am familiar with mexican geographyMickorod Renard: well, in a way,,passing through to get to usaMickorod Renard: guatamalians and so forthAphrodite Macbain: It really varies- from teamy jungles to hi arid desertsAphrodite Macbain: steamy :-)Aphrodite Macbain: When did you visit Guatemala?Mickorod Renard: yes, I had two mexicans as friends foor a while,,they lived somewhere whrethey said it was perfect weatherAphrodite Macbain: It was pretty nice where I was, I'm just not great in the heatMickorod Renard: no, i never went to guatamalia,,it was them trying to get to mexicoAphrodite Macbain: ahAphrodite Macbain: It's a beautiful country with beautiful peopleAphrodite Macbain: I was there in the 80sMickorod Renard: but my friends, Ricado and,,erm forgot,,they said it rained every day when they slept and was sunny the rest of the time but not too hotAphrodite Macbain: I travelled all over central and south america in the 80sAphrodite Macbain: I could speak spanish back thenMickorod Renard: wow, thats very intrepid of youAphrodite Macbain: I was researching masksAphrodite Macbain: and costumesMickorod Renard: I had planned,,when I was younger that i would motorbike accrossAphrodite Macbain: It have me an excuse to travel and meet peopleMickorod Renard: great ideaAphrodite Macbain: You still can :-)Aphrodite Macbain: along the panamerican highwayMickorod Renard: I could..I was hoping to do it with my son,,but he has no interest in me nowhasnocontentAphrodite Macbain: too bad :-(Aphrodite Macbain: Maybe he cant imagine what it might be likeMickorod Renard: I know,,great plans..but no worriesAphrodite Macbain: Can you go with a friend?Mickorod Renard: he can't hold a conversation with meMickorod Renard: I dont have any friends anymore..he heAphrodite Macbain: ? why?Aphrodite Macbain: cant he hold a conversation with you?Mickorod Renard: I am proberbly horrible..grinAphrodite Macbain: a horrible conversationalist?Tura Brezoianu: hi Aph, MickAphrodite Macbain: Hey TuraTura Brezoianu: and HNYMickorod Renard: he thought I was alien..cos I was always right..and could do anythingTura Brezoianu: I wasn't sure if there was a meeting todayMickorod Renard: Hi TuraMickorod Renard: happy new yearAphrodite Macbain: we still have one chapter to go but I'm not sure if anyone is interested any more--BELL--Mickorod Renard: after next Thursday I am wrapping up hosting thursdayTura Brezoianu: A tempo has to be kept up, I thinkAphrodite Macbain: you'll be busy with a new babe!Aphrodite Macbain: I enjoyed the book.Mickorod Renard: syeh, the darwin bit this week i propose we do the last bit..Enrich PlayAsBeing WikiMickorod Renard: me tooAphrodite Macbain: I am glad he described the other creation myths in the world at the back of the book. I was thinking it was very western-centericMickorod Renard: and made me think alot..much to do with other things but stimulated by the bookbycontributingAphrodite Macbain: me tooMickorod Renard: yes Aph, If I had time I would look them upMickorod Renard: Baby shouldnt arrive until feb the 8thMickorod Renard: but she has had them braxton hicksAphrodite Macbain: I found it important that he described the false assumptions people have made about Darwin's theory of natural selection.Mickorod Renard: which are like practice labour painsAphrodite Macbain: like "survival of the fittest" and the concept of progress.Mickorod Renard: yes, have you read the last chapter?Aphrodite Macbain: yesMickorod Renard: ok..I havnt digested it yetAphrodite Macbain: I had to return the book to the library so I read in advance.Mickorod Renard: ah okAphrodite Macbain: It would be a good reference book to purchase, I think. I have the Kindle versionMickorod Renard: i think there is a link between darwinian evolution and the storyAphrodite Macbain: Have yoou read the last chapter Tura?Tura Brezoianu: Yes, and the epilogueAphrodite Macbain: I didn't have time :-(Aphrodite Macbain: Was it useful?Mickorod Renard: its problematic sometimes..for me at least..to sugest somethings for fear of being sexist or whatMickorod Renard: Hi AgsAgatha Macbeth: Evening allAphrodite Macbain: Hiya Aggers!Tura Brezoianu: Darwin was a big nail in the coffin of literalism about Adam and EveAgatha Macbeth: Stupid cushionsTura Brezoianu: along with everything else we found out about how the world really works in the last couple of centuriesAphrodite Macbain: Yes- it's hard to reconcile the skull of Lucy in the African desert and another skull in Europe being A&E in one garden!Agatha Macbeth: Maybe Lucy was EveAgatha Macbeth: Nobody ever said Eve was whiteAphrodite Macbain: Maybe it was an african pythonMickorod Renard: one of these days we will discover something and we wont be able to believe we have been doing something so silly for so long..like using plastic bottlesAphrodite Macbain: that tempted herAphrodite Macbain: yes- hindsight is 20 20Agatha Macbeth: Yeh plastic's a painMickorod Renard: I think A and E is like an algorythmAgatha Macbeth: How so?Mickorod Renard: a nonsence placed in the brain that the subconcious can use to make senseAphrodite Macbain: oh?Agatha Macbeth: HmMickorod Renard: he heAphrodite Macbain: Is that what an algorithm is?Mickorod Renard: you have to bear in mind I am madAgatha Macbeth: I was thinking of logorithms, sorryAphrodite Macbain: ah - that makes a great deal of sense MickAgatha Macbeth: 2 x 2 = nonsenseAphrodite Macbain: what's it like to be mad?Mickorod Renard: grinAgatha Macbeth: No one asks you to explainAgatha Macbeth: The radio by her side...Aphrodite Macbain: :-)Aphrodite Macbain: what's playing?Agatha Macbeth: She's a special ladyMickorod Renard: well, I recon its got to do with the diferent values of male and femeleAphrodite Macbain: who?Agatha Macbeth: AngieAgatha Macbeth: Living in a world of make believeAgatha Macbeth: Well maybeAphrodite Macbain: It must be a British thing...Agatha Macbeth: Dunno where the guy in the radio wentAgatha Macbeth: No Canadian actually!Mickorod Renard: in the animal world..they have strange habitsAphrodite Macbain: Canadians have guys in radios?Agatha Macbeth: Seems soAphrodite Macbain: They must be very smallAgatha Macbeth: And the US had women in radiatorsAphrodite Macbain: snort--BELL--Tura Brezoianu senses unfamiliar cultural references flying overheadAgatha Macbeth: In heaven everything is fineAphrodite Macbain: May I have some of what you're imbibing, Aggers?Tura Brezoianu: ah, I've seen EraserheadMickorod Renard: does anyone know of animals doing wierd things..like killing the young when a new mate takes over?Agatha Macbeth: Not sure one can bottle itAphrodite Macbain: only weired to usAphrodite Macbain: wierdTura Brezoianu: don't lions do that routinely?Agatha Macbeth: Weird and wiredAphrodite Macbain: Often the dad eats the cubsMickorod Renard: I think lots doAphrodite Macbain: especially if there is little spaceAgatha Macbeth: Greedy sodAgatha Macbeth: Aren't zebras enough?Mickorod Renard: so females in the animal world operate with a diferent thought patternMickorod Renard: than malesAphrodite Macbain: a different set of genesAphrodite Macbain: I know a number of people who still believe in the creation story and in Noah and the ArkTura Brezoianu: happens in humans too, not so routinely, but statistically, stepfathers are more likely to be violent against stepchildren than fathers to their own childrenMickorod Renard: but in A and E there is an attempt to bring about union for a pair presumably for proliferationMickorod Renard: exactly TuraAphrodite Macbain: I wonder if they have a different consciousnessTura Brezoianu: what do they say about the billion years of life on Earth, and the billion since the universe began?Aphrodite Macbain: they dontTura Brezoianu: *billions since etc.Mickorod Renard: and there are the srories of wicked step mothersAgatha Macbeth: Billions and billions!Aphrodite Macbain: 200-300,000 years ago man appearedAphrodite Macbain: the earth is over 3 billion years ooldMickorod Renard: I was just thinking that the story may have been an attempt to convince the masses to form union and work together even though there is a difference in male and female thinkingAphrodite Macbain: oldAgatha Macbeth: Yo man!Agatha Macbeth: I always wondered what happened to the NeanderthalsAphrodite Macbain: they interbred with othersMickorod Renard: interbbredAgatha Macbeth: And whether some are still aroundAphrodite Macbain: apparently most of us have a Neqaderthal geneAphrodite Macbain: when we're feeling tired :-)Aphrodite Macbain: *NeaderthalMickorod Renard: remember that songAphrodite Macbain: ** Neanderthal (that was a Neanderthal moment)Agatha Macbeth: YepMickorod Renard: i am the neanderthal manAgatha Macbeth: Ug ugMickorod Renard: was it the trogs?Aphrodite Macbain: trogs?Agatha Macbeth: HotlegsAgatha Macbeth: Later 10 ccAphrodite Macbain: ??Tura Brezoianu: I think the purpose of the A&E story is to explain the existence of evilAgatha Macbeth: Think that was before Graham Goulden joinedTura Brezoianu: Maybe that why we have religions at all. Religions are like pearls: mucus congealed about an irritating speck of muck.Aphrodite Macbain: Interesting TuraTura Brezoianu: The speck being the fact that so much of everything sucks.Aphrodite Macbain: It explains the fall of manMickorod Renard: I'm a neanderthal man You're a neanderthal girl Let's make neanderthal love In this neanderthal worldAphrodite Macbain: I wonder whether they were good loversMickorod Renard: I recon this must have preceded A and E storyAgatha Macbeth: What day were they made on, supposedly?Mickorod Renard: that by the way is the extent of the lyrics but repeated over and overAphrodite Macbain: The Old Testament was apparently written in the 5th century BCAphrodite Macbain: long after Lucy was bornAgatha Macbeth: It was written down in BabylonAphrodite Macbain: In AramaicAgatha Macbeth: Probably from oral traditionsAphrodite Macbain: yes probablyAgatha Macbeth slaps her wrist for saying 'oral'Aphrodite Macbain: all those begats made for interesting epic poetryAgatha Macbeth: Well there are a lot of themMickorod Renard: there is still some similarity,,as the towers where instructions were babbled out must have been so due to lack of folks who cud readAphrodite Macbain: there was a real mix of people in Babylon - Iraniand and Semits of different persuasionsAgatha Macbeth: Pythagoras was there tooAphrodite Macbain: measuring things--BELL--Agatha Macbeth: He got about that guyMickorod Renard: geographicaly isreal/palastine was the crossroads for tradeAphrodite Macbain: yesMickorod Renard: as was persia and syriaAphrodite Macbain: connecting to Egypt and SpainAphrodite Macbain: and all the way to ChinaAgatha Macbeth: CaravansMickorod Renard: so naturally folk would 'be there'Aphrodite Macbain: yesAphrodite Macbain: It was a commercial centreAgatha Macbeth: Can't beat the old Silk RoadAphrodite Macbain: there are receipts for goods written in cuneiformMickorod Renard: it always amazed me that they even went with ships to the uk and traded for copper and suchAphrodite Macbain: along with the Gilgamesh mythAgatha Macbeth: The Phonecians did yesAphrodite Macbain: "seagoing peoples"Mickorod Renard: thats a fair old trip even todayAphrodite Macbain: I'm reading a book that gives the background to Islam- it's fascinating.Mickorod Renard: yes?Mickorod Renard: that sounds interestingAphrodite Macbain: called "The Venture of Islam"Mickorod Renard: tyMickorod Renard: is it big?Agatha Macbeth: o.oMickorod Renard: i have a que of stuff..thats allAphrodite Macbain: Over 500 pages. The first bit gives a background of what the area was like before the religion formedAphrodite Macbain: 800-400 BCMickorod Renard: thats double A and EAphrodite Macbain: Too much informationAphrodite Macbain: hard to remember it allAgatha Macbeth: Too many notes MozartAphrodite Macbain: but It will stick eventuallyMickorod Renard: I have given up on rememberingAphrodite Macbain: It's to prepare for our trip to Spain in MayAgatha Macbeth: We're going to Spain?Aphrodite Macbain: medieval spainAgatha Macbeth: HolaMickorod Renard: ah yes, interesting aspect to your tripAphrodite Macbain: I'm going with the universityMickorod Renard: 3 religionsAgatha Macbeth: All of it?Aphrodite Macbain: 40 of us!Agatha Macbeth: ErkAphrodite Macbain: yesAgatha Macbeth: You'll need a big busAphrodite Macbain: at that time (800-1100) Christians, Jews and Muslims were living relatively peacefully in SpainAphrodite Macbain: we will take the train- staying only in Granada and CordobaMickorod Renard: I recall it was the French guy someone the bald who beat the moorish hoards back otherwise the uk would have been islam tooAgatha Macbeth: Charlemagne?Aphrodite Macbain: coolAgatha Macbeth: Or Charles MartelAgatha Macbeth: Some Charlie anywayAphrodite Macbain: Charles the BaldAgatha Macbeth: RightAphrodite Macbain: 823-877Mickorod Renard: I can't remember the full story now..did it with my son when he was in frence schoolAgatha Macbeth: Hair today gone tomorrowAphrodite Macbain: lolMickorod Renard: that was what my barber said to meAphrodite Macbain: He was the king of France and the Holy Roman EmperorAphrodite Macbain: what did he say Mick?Mickorod Renard: of the carolingian dynasty I thinkMickorod Renard: hair today gone tomorrowAgatha Macbeth: Carolus rexAphrodite Macbain: Too much information.Aphrodite Macbain holds her headAgatha Macbeth: Too many notesAphrodite Macbain: Down rex!Agatha Macbeth: Get rid a fewAphrodite Macbain: bundles them up and throws them in the garbageMickorod Renard: I was amazed how narrow the straights of Gibraltar areAphrodite Macbain: Time to head out and buy a new watch strapMickorod Renard: you could swim to AfricaMickorod Renard: bye AphAphrodite Macbain: really?Mickorod Renard: cheersAgatha Macbeth: Swim to Africa for a watch strap?Aphrodite Macbain: did you get bitten by a monkey?Agatha Macbeth: Bit farMickorod Renard: yeh..easyMickorod Renard: wifes bag got ripped upAgatha Macbeth: The Pillars of HerculesMickorod Renard: he heAphrodite Macbain: where are/were they Aggers?Agatha Macbeth: Straits of GAphrodite Macbain: huhAgatha Macbeth: AllegedlyMickorod Renard: blocking the atlantic fro medAphrodite Macbain: what did your wife have in her bag?Mickorod Renard: just the usual women rubbishAphrodite Macbain: potato chips?Aphrodite Macbain: have a great weekend!Mickorod Renard: I mean real important stuff..like lipstickAgatha Macbeth: Any fish?Agatha Macbeth: TC AphieMickorod Renard: he he--BELL--Mickorod Renard: I think she has kept fish in it at some timeMickorod Renard: prob a huge carp..by the size of itAgatha Macbeth: HmAgatha Macbeth: I've heard of a cat in the bagAgatha Macbeth: Not a fishMickorod Renard: it saves having to take luggage on the planeAgatha Macbeth: Ar trueMickorod Renard: just have a huge handbagAgatha Macbeth: And hit the pilot with itMickorod Renard: I am thinking of getting oneAgatha Macbeth: Too easy to lose or nick for my likingMickorod Renard: it has a sort of detachable roller assembly like they use tput space rockets on the launch padTura Brezoianu: it's a big handbag that needs wheelsAgatha Macbeth: Guess a rocket launcher is a handy thing to haveMickorod Renard: well, she was in the guides and likes to be preparedAgatha Macbeth: TypicalAgatha Macbeth: I prefer the BrowniesMickorod Renard: yeh..its sexist cos us lads used to have to carry a penknife in the scouts but thats been bannedAgatha Macbeth: Little hooligansMickorod Renard: I remember as a lad we could walk about with huge machettes and air riffles but no longerMickorod Renard: well, u can in usaAgatha Macbeth: Well there were wars and stuff in them daysMickorod Renard: aye, never knew if a meshesmitte might crashMickorod Renard: think I spelt that wrongAgatha Macbeth: Cabbage crates over the brinyMickorod Renard: so, have you had bad wind?Agatha Macbeth: No, I took something for itAgatha Macbeth: But it has been stormyMickorod Renard: must be Tura then?Agatha Macbeth: Tura ra bum diayMickorod Renard: are you near water then Ags?Tura Brezoianu: turaluralayAgatha Macbeth: Not immediatelyMickorod Renard: he heMickorod Renard: big winds here todayAgatha Macbeth: Hope it didn't blow the Rollrights downAgatha Macbeth: Boing boingAgatha Macbeth: Oh I'll lookAgatha Macbeth: See if can spot any witchesAgatha Macbeth: The things people send you ehAgatha Macbeth: AnywaysAgatha Macbeth: Shame Liz and Bruce weren't hereAgatha Macbeth: ArAgatha Macbeth: Love to MorgAgatha Macbeth: And the kidsAgatha Macbeth: Byee

I'm a neanderthal manYou're a neanderthal girlLet's make neanderthal loveIn this neanderthal world

I'm a neanderthal manYou're a neanderthal girlLet's make neanderthal loveIn this neanderthal world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg4sqA10Cs0

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Aphrodite Macbain: 's current display-name is "Aph".Mickorod Renard: Hi AphAphrodite Macbain: Hiya MickMickorod Renard: It was getting lonely hereMickorod Renard: :)Aphrodite Macbain: awwAphrodite Macbain: I expected more peopleMickorod Renard: so, tell me, how was Mexico?Aphrodite Macbain: Hot!Mickorod Renard: I saw a program the other day on migrants..it was very hotMickorod Renard: oppressiveAphrodite Macbain: nice. I was ina little town sousth of GuadalajaraAphrodite Macbain: Migrants from Mexico?Mickorod Renard: mmm,,can't say I am familiar with mexican geographyMickorod Renard: well, in a way,,passing through to get to usaMickorod Renard: guatamalians and so forthAphrodite Macbain: It really varies- from teamy jungles to hi arid desertsAphrodite Macbain: steamy :-)Aphrodite Macbain: When did you visit Guatemala?Mickorod Renard: yes, I had two mexicans as friends foor a while,,they lived somewhere whrethey said it was perfect weatherAphrodite Macbain: It was pretty nice where I was, I'm just not great in the heatMickorod Renard: no, i never went to guatamalia,,it was them trying to get to mexicoAphrodite Macbain: ahAphrodite Macbain: It's a beautiful country with beautiful peopleAphrodite Macbain: I was there in the 80sMickorod Renard: but my friends, Ricado and,,erm forgot,,they said it rained every day when they slept and was sunny the rest of the time but not too hotAphrodite Macbain: I travelled all over central and south america in the 80sAphrodite Macbain: I could speak spanish back thenMickorod Renard: wow, thats very intrepid of youAphrodite Macbain: I was researching masksAphrodite Macbain: and costumesMickorod Renard: I had planned,,when I was younger that i would motorbike accrossAphrodite Macbain: It have me an excuse to travel and meet peopleMickorod Renard: great ideaAphrodite Macbain: You still can :-)Aphrodite Macbain: along the panamerican highwayMickorod Renard: I could..I was hoping to do it with my son,,but he has no interest in me nowAphrodite Macbain: too bad :-(Aphrodite Macbain: Maybe he cant imagine what it might be likeMickorod Renard: I know,,great plans..but no worriesAphrodite Macbain: Can you go with a friend?Mickorod Renard: he can't hold a conversation with meMickorod Renard: I dont have any friends anymore..he heAphrodite Macbain: ? why?Aphrodite Macbain: cant he hold a conversation with you?Mickorod Renard: I am proberbly horrible..grinAphrodite Macbain: a horrible conversationalist?Tura Brezoianu: hi Aph, MickAphrodite Macbain: Hey TuraTura Brezoianu: and HNYMickorod Renard: he thought I was alien..cos I was always right..and could do anythingTura Brezoianu: I wasn't sure if there was a meeting todayMickorod Renard: Hi TuraMickorod Renard: happy new yearAphrodite Macbain: we still have one chapter to go but I'm not sure if anyone is interested any more--BELL--Mickorod Renard: after next Thursday I am wrapping up hosting thursdayTura Brezoianu: A tempo has to be kept up, I thinkAphrodite Macbain: you'll be busy with a new babe!Aphrodite Macbain: I enjoyed the book.Mickorod Renard: syeh, the darwin bit this week i propose we do the last bit..Mickorod Renard: me tooAphrodite Macbain: I am glad he described the other creation myths in the world at the back of the book. I was thinking it was very western-centericMickorod Renard: and made me think alot..much to do with other things but stimulated by the bookAphrodite Macbain: me tooMickorod Renard: yes Aph, If I had time I would look them upMickorod Renard: Baby shouldnt arrive until feb the 8thMickorod Renard: but she has had them braxton hicksAphrodite Macbain: I found it important that he described the false assumptions people have made about Darwin's theory of natural selection.Mickorod Renard: which are like practice labour painsAphrodite Macbain: like "survival of the fittest" and the concept of progress.Mickorod Renard: yes, have you read the last chapter?Aphrodite Macbain: yesMickorod Renard: ok..I havnt digested it yetAphrodite Macbain: I had to return the book to the library so I read in advance.Mickorod Renard: ah okAphrodite Macbain: It would be a good reference book to purchase, I think. I have the Kindle versionMickorod Renard: i think there is a link between darwinian evolution and the storyAphrodite Macbain: Have yoou read the last chapter Tura?Tura Brezoianu: Yes, and the epilogueAphrodite Macbain: I didn't have time :-(Aphrodite Macbain: Was it useful?Mickorod Renard: its problematic sometimes..for me at least..to sugest somethings for fear of being sexist or whatMickorod Renard: Hi AgsAgatha Macbeth: Evening allAphrodite Macbain: Hiya Aggers!Tura Brezoianu: Darwin was a big nail in the coffin of literalism about Adam and EveAgatha Macbeth: Stupid cushionsTura Brezoianu: along with everything else we found out about how the world really works in the last couple of centuriesAphrodite Macbain: Yes- it's hard to reconcile the skull of Lucy in the African desert and another skull in Europe being A&E in one garden!Agatha Macbeth: Maybe Lucy was EveAgatha Macbeth: Nobody ever said Eve was whiteAphrodite Macbain: Maybe it was an african pythonMickorod Renard: one of these days we will discover something and we wont be able to believe we have been doing something so silly for so long..like using plastic bottlesAphrodite Macbain: that tempted herAphrodite Macbain: yes- hindsight is 20 20Agatha Macbeth: Yeh plastic's a painMickorod Renard: I think A and E is like an algorythmAgatha Macbeth: How so?Mickorod Renard: a nonsence placed in the brain that the subconcious can use to make senseAphrodite Macbain: oh?Agatha Macbeth: HmMickorod Renard: he heAphrodite Macbain: Is that what an algorithm is?Mickorod Renard: you have to bear in mind I am madAgatha Macbeth: I was thinking of logorithms, sorryAphrodite Macbain: ah - that makes a great deal of sense MickAgatha Macbeth: 2 x 2 = nonsenseAphrodite Macbain: what's it like to be mad?Mickorod Renard: grinAgatha Macbeth: No one asks you to explainAgatha Macbeth: The radio by her side...Aphrodite Macbain: :-)Aphrodite Macbain: what's playing?Agatha Macbeth: She's a special ladyMickorod Renard: well, I recon its got to do with the diferent values of male and femeleAphrodite Macbain: who?Agatha Macbeth: AngieAgatha Macbeth: Living in a world of make believeAgatha Macbeth: Well maybeAphrodite Macbain: It must be a British thing...Agatha Macbeth: Dunno where the guy in the radio wentAgatha Macbeth: No Canadian actually!Mickorod Renard: in the animal world..they have strange habitsAphrodite Macbain: Canadians have guys in radios?Agatha Macbeth: Seems soAphrodite Macbain: They must be very smallAgatha Macbeth: And the US had women in radiatorsAphrodite Macbain: snort--BELL--Tura Brezoianu senses unfamiliar cultural references flying overheadAgatha Macbeth: In heaven everything is fineAphrodite Macbain: May I have some of what you're imbibing, Aggers?Tura Brezoianu: ah, I've seen EraserheadMickorod Renard: does anyone know of animals doing wierd things..like killing the young when a new mate takes over?Agatha Macbeth: Not sure one can bottle itAphrodite Macbain: only weired to usAphrodite Macbain: wierdTura Brezoianu: don't lions do that routinely?Agatha Macbeth: Weird and wiredAphrodite Macbain: Often the dad eats the cubsMickorod Renard: I think lots doAphrodite Macbain: especially if there is little spaceAgatha Macbeth: Greedy sodAgatha Macbeth: Aren't zebras enough?Mickorod Renard: so females in the animal world operate with a diferent thought patternMickorod Renard: than malesAphrodite Macbain: a different set of genesAphrodite Macbain: I know a number of people who still believe in the creation story and in Noah and the ArkTura Brezoianu: happens in humans too, not so routinely, but statistically, stepfathers are more likely to be violent against stepchildren than fathers to their own childrenMickorod Renard: but in A and E there is an attempt to bring about union for a pair presumably for proliferationMickorod Renard: exactly TuraAphrodite Macbain: I wonder if they have a different consciousnessTura Brezoianu: what do they say about the billion years of life on Earth, and the billion since the universe began?Aphrodite Macbain: they dontTura Brezoianu: *billions since etc.Mickorod Renard: and there are the srories of wicked step mothersAgatha Macbeth: Billions and billions!Aphrodite Macbain: 200-300,000 years ago man appearedAphrodite Macbain: the earth is over 3 billion years ooldMickorod Renard: I was just thinking that the story may have been an attempt to convince the masses to form union and work together even though there is a difference in male and female thinkingAphrodite Macbain: oldAgatha Macbeth: Yo man!Agatha Macbeth: I always wondered what happened to the NeanderthalsAphrodite Macbain: they interbred with othersMickorod Renard: interbbredAgatha Macbeth: And whether some are still aroundAphrodite Macbain: apparently most of us have a Neqaderthal geneAphrodite Macbain: when we're feeling tired :-)Aphrodite Macbain: *NeaderthalMickorod Renard: remember that songAphrodite Macbain: ** Neanderthal (that was a Neanderthal moment)Agatha Macbeth: YepMickorod Renard: i am the neanderthal manAgatha Macbeth: Ug ugMickorod Renard: was it the trogs?Aphrodite Macbain: trogs?Agatha Macbeth: HotlegsAgatha Macbeth: Later 10 ccAphrodite Macbain: ??Tura Brezoianu: I think the purpose of the A&E story is to explain the existence of evilAgatha Macbeth: Think that was before Graham Goulden joinedTura Brezoianu: Maybe that why we have religions at all. Religions are like pearls: mucus congealed about an irritating speck of muck.Aphrodite Macbain: Interesting TuraTura Brezoianu: The speck being the fact that so much of everything sucks.Aphrodite Macbain: It explains the fall of manMickorod Renard: I'm a neanderthal man You're a neanderthal girl Let's make neanderthal love In this neanderthal worldAphrodite Macbain: I wonder whether they were good loversMickorod Renard: I recon this must have preceded A and E storyAgatha Macbeth: What day were they made on, supposedly?Mickorod Renard: that by the way is the extent of the lyrics but repeated over and overAphrodite Macbain: The Old Testament was apparently written in the 5th century BCAphrodite Macbain: long after Lucy was bornAgatha Macbeth: It was written down in BabylonAphrodite Macbain: In AramaicAgatha Macbeth: Probably from oral traditionsAphrodite Macbain: yes probablyAgatha Macbeth slaps her wrist for saying 'oral'Aphrodite Macbain: all those begats made for interesting epic poetryAgatha Macbeth: Well there are a lot of themMickorod Renard: there is still some similarity,,as the towers where instructions were babbled out must have been so due to lack of folks who cud readAphrodite Macbain: there was a real mix of people in Babylon - Iraniand and Semits of different persuasionsAgatha Macbeth: Pythagoras was there tooAphrodite Macbain: measuring things--BELL--Agatha Macbeth: He got about that guyMickorod Renard: geographicaly isreal/palastine was the crossroads for tradeAphrodite Macbain: yesMickorod Renard: as was persia and syriaAphrodite Macbain: connecting to Egypt and SpainAphrodite Macbain: and all the way to ChinaAgatha Macbeth: CaravansMickorod Renard: so naturally folk would 'be there'Aphrodite Macbain: yesAphrodite Macbain: It was a commercial centreAgatha Macbeth: Can't beat the old Silk RoadAphrodite Macbain: there are receipts for goods written in cuneiformMickorod Renard: it always amazed me that they even went with ships to the uk and traded for copper and suchAphrodite Macbain: along with the Gilgamesh mythAgatha Macbeth: The Phonecians did yesAphrodite Macbain: "seagoing peoples"Mickorod Renard: thats a fair old trip even todayAphrodite Macbain: I'm reading a book that gives the background to Islam- it's fascinating.Mickorod Renard: yes?Mickorod Renard: that sounds interestingAphrodite Macbain: called "The Venture of Islam"Mickorod Renard: tyMickorod Renard: is it big?Agatha Macbeth: o.oMickorod Renard: i have a que of stuff..thats allAphrodite Macbain: Over 500 pages. The first bit gives a background of what the area was like before the religion formedAphrodite Macbain: 800-400 BCMickorod Renard: thats double A and EAphrodite Macbain: Too much informationAphrodite Macbain: hard to remember it allAgatha Macbeth: Too many notes MozartAphrodite Macbain: but It will stick eventuallyMickorod Renard: I have given up on rememberingAphrodite Macbain: It's to prepare for our trip to Spain in MayAgatha Macbeth: We're going to Spain?Aphrodite Macbain: medieval spainAgatha Macbeth: HolaMickorod Renard: ah yes, interesting aspect to your tripAphrodite Macbain: I'm going with the universityMickorod Renard: 3 religionsAgatha Macbeth: All of it?Aphrodite Macbain: 40 of us!Agatha Macbeth: ErkAphrodite Macbain: yesAgatha Macbeth: You'll need a big busAphrodite Macbain: at that time (800-1100) Christians, Jews and Muslims were living relatively peacefully in SpainAphrodite Macbain: we will take the train- staying only in Granada and CordobaMickorod Renard: I recall it was the French guy someone the bald who beat the moorish hoards back otherwise the uk would have been islam tooAgatha Macbeth: Charlemagne?Aphrodite Macbain: coolAgatha Macbeth: Or Charles MartelAgatha Macbeth: Some Charlie anywayAphrodite Macbain: Charles the BaldAgatha Macbeth: RightAphrodite Macbain: 823-877Mickorod Renard: I can't remember the full story now..did it with my son when he was in frence schoolAgatha Macbeth: Hair today gone tomorrowAphrodite Macbain: lolMickorod Renard: that was what my barber said to meAphrodite Macbain: He was the king of France and the Holy Roman EmperorAphrodite Macbain: what did he say Mick?Mickorod Renard: of the carolingian dynasty I thinkMickorod Renard: hair today gone tomorrowAgatha Macbeth: Carolus rexAphrodite Macbain: Too much information.Aphrodite Macbain holds her headAgatha Macbeth: Too many notesAphrodite Macbain: Down rex!Agatha Macbeth: Get rid a fewAphrodite Macbain: bundles them up and throws them in the garbageMickorod Renard: I was amazed how narrow the straights of Gibraltar areAphrodite Macbain: Time to head out and buy a new watch strapMickorod Renard: you could swim to AfricaMickorod Renard: bye AphAphrodite Macbain: really?Mickorod Renard: cheersAgatha Macbeth: Swim to Africa for a watch strap?Aphrodite Macbain: did you get bitten by a monkey?Agatha Macbeth: Bit farMickorod Renard: yeh..easyMickorod Renard: wifes bag got ripped upAgatha Macbeth: The Pillars of HerculesMickorod Renard: he heAphrodite Macbain: where are/were they Aggers?Agatha Macbeth: Straits of GAphrodite Macbain: huhAgatha Macbeth: AllegedlyMickorod Renard: blocking the atlantic fro medAphrodite Macbain: what did your wife have in her bag?Mickorod Renard: just the usual women rubbishAphrodite Macbain: potato chips?Aphrodite Macbain: have a great weekend!Mickorod Renard: I mean real important stuff..like lipstickAgatha Macbeth: Any fish?Agatha Macbeth: TC AphieMickorod Renard: he he--BELL--Mickorod Renard: I think she has kept fish in it at some timeMickorod Renard: prob a huge carp..by the size of itAgatha Macbeth: HmAgatha Macbeth: I've heard of a cat in the bagAgatha Macbeth: Not a fishMickorod Renard: it saves having to take luggage on the planeAgatha Macbeth: Ar trueMickorod Renard: just have a huge handbagAgatha Macbeth: And hit the pilot with itMickorod Renard: I am thinking of getting oneAgatha Macbeth: Too easy to lose or nick for my likingMickorod Renard: it has a sort of detachable roller assembly like they use tput space rockets on the launch padTura Brezoianu: it's a big handbag that needs wheelsAgatha Macbeth: Guess a rocket launcher is a handy thing to haveMickorod Renard: well, she was in the guides and likes to be preparedAgatha Macbeth: TypicalAgatha Macbeth: I prefer the BrowniesMickorod Renard: yeh..its sexist cos us lads used to have to carry a penknife in the scouts but thats been bannedAgatha Macbeth: Little hooligansMickorod Renard: I remember as a lad we could walk about with huge machettes and air riffles but no longerMickorod Renard: well, u can in usaAgatha Macbeth: Well there were wars and stuff in them daysMickorod Renard: aye, never knew if a meshesmitte might crashMickorod Renard: think I spelt that wrongAgatha Macbeth: Cabbage crates over the brinyMickorod Renard: so, have you had bad wind?Agatha Macbeth: No, I took something for itAgatha Macbeth: But it has been stormyMickorod Renard: must be Tura then?Agatha Macbeth: Tura ra bum diayMickorod Renard: are you near water then Ags?Tura Brezoianu: turaluralayAgatha Macbeth: Not immediatelyMickorod Renard: he heMickorod Renard: big winds here todayAgatha Macbeth: Hope it didn't blow the Rollrights downAgatha Macbeth: Boing boingAgatha Macbeth: Oh I'll lookAgatha Macbeth: See if can spot any witchesAgatha Macbeth: The things people send you ehAgatha Macbeth: AnywaysAgatha Macbeth: Shame Liz and Bruce weren't hereAgatha Macbeth: ArAgatha Macbeth: Love to MorgAgatha Macbeth: And the kidsAgatha Macbeth: Byee