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Closer to the Cemetery, and its on top the hill, so pretty level the entire trip. Mule, I'm going to take a good hard look at this....could be a good spot.

ANOTHER place could be the pennisula, its at the first trail head as you come from the west on the dirt road. it is a 4 mile hike to the lake, and water would be plentyful there. Only draw back, is if the water is down, we may sink into muck getting to the water. and if its cold, the wind will be coming directly off the lake....( much colder )

another thought.....we have plenty of time to think about it....

Jerry

Jerry, the water from the Monroe Res. is oily and full of junk. Actually, the water at crooked creek lake would be full of bio stuff so Al's onto something about cashing water in the car. Of course that is a good solution for camping at Terrell Pond too.

You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.
Buddha.

The Panther Gap Trail is not a marked trail and is one of several in the area that were laid out by the Sassafras Audubon Society of I. U. circa 1975. They were navigated by compass headings, distances and landmarks as was customary to that era. The landmarks in most instances are almost unrecognizable today due to forest progression over the last 35 years. But not undecipherable to the astute observer. If anyone is interested in the original trail description (guide), I can post. Big Al

This talk about water reminds me to ask...while backpacking Deam last October, I stopped at a small pond south of the peninsula to filter some water. I noticed a rainbow effect floating in the water – the kind you get in parking lots from oil and gas leaking from cars. Any ideas on what could have caused this? It was a fairly remote spot so I assumed it was something natural, maybe something from a plant or tree. It covered a pretty good area, probably 2’ along the edge. Regardless, I was hesitant to use this water.

This talk about water reminds me to ask...while backpacking Deam last October, I stopped at a small pond south of the peninsula to filter some water. I noticed a rainbow effect floating in the water – the kind you get in parking lots from oil and gas leaking from cars. Any ideas on what could have caused this? It was a fairly remote spot so I assumed it was something natural, maybe something from a plant or tree. It covered a pretty good area, probably 2’ along the edge. Regardless, I was hesitant to use this water.

I have seen this often in the summer. My guess is it is oil from rotting veggies in the water. I remember when you could buy Pine Oil for cleaning. Stuff like that.

You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.
Buddha.

The Panther Gap Trail is not a marked trail and is one of several in the area that were laid out by the Sassafras Audubon Society of I. U. circa 1975. They were navigated by compass headings, distances and landmarks as was customary to that era. The landmarks in most instances are almost unrecognizable today due to forest progression over the last 35 years. But not undecipherable to the astute observer. If anyone is interested in the original trail description (guide), I can post. Big Al

Dang 35 years. Now I'm dated. Still like to see it again when you can find the time. Managed to hike most of them except for the Dogwood trail. It was alongside a power line cut, and purported to be one of the toughest the SAS laid out.

Dang 35 years. Now I'm dated. Still like to see it again when you can find the time. Managed to hike most of them except for the Dogwood trail. It was alongside a power line cut, and purported to be one of the toughest the SAS laid out.

Rolloff, I'd love to try some of these old trails, whenever you want I'll go. You should know I get lost a lot out there.

You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.
Buddha.

I do too Mule. That's how you find the best places. I'm totally convinced.

Going to be a busy fall, but I'm game once the temps break a bit. Most if not all of that trail guide is suited to weekends and overnighters, so the time commitment isn't too demanding.

I know with the water being down, the Patton Cave trail, should allow for some pretty good hiking all the way to the lake proper. Probably have to fight the horse traffic though until your on the other side of the valley.

Lets work something up. I need to get some tuning and tweaking, for a KT attempt earlier the same month, or directly after the fall HH.

I do too Mule. That's how you find the best places. I'm totally convinced.

Going to be a busy fall, but I'm game once the temps break a bit. Most if not all of that trail guide is suited to weekends and overnighters, so the time commitment isn't too demanding.

I know with the water being down, the Patton Cave trail, should allow for some pretty good hiking all the way to the lake proper. Probably have to fight the horse traffic though until your on the other side of the valley.

Lets work something up. I need to get some tuning and tweaking, for a KT attempt earlier the same month, or directly after the fall HH.

Sound like a plan. Let's keep in touch. Jerry will be interested too.

You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.
Buddha.