I am curious as to where all of your hate for us originated? I know we are division rivals so it is natural to dislike the biggest obstacle that stands in the way of where you want to be, but there seems to be some deep down hatred that lies inside some if not most of you for the Niners.

I have been made aware that Niner fans used to come on here and troll the crap out of your site a while back. How bad was it? Is this the cause for alot of your hate towards us?

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-The Glove- wrote:Dude, now you're trolling. I only see you come on here to defend the Niners and brag about your team. Bring something to the table.

I'm honestly not trolling. I am just curious as to why each time I post something that it is taken so negatively. If anything I am trying to find out ways to not provoke issues in the future when I post something. That is why I posted this thread.

I just think it would be cool to talk with you guys about both our teams futures in the division without being blasted all the time. I have mentioned it before that I have respect for the Seahawks because my dad was a fan of them after he moved to Oregon, and went to games quite often. I think also the fact that I came back here after the Super Bowl should indicate that I am not here to troll your boards.

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Hey Lifer, I live in Sacramento and I am constantly surrounded by crimson and gold douche-baggery. "Fans" that talk about the good old days that aren't even old enough to have experienced them, and ridicule when I'm wearing any ' Hawks gear. Even when we owned the division Whiner fans would run their mouths about their historical greatness, blah blah blah.

SacHawk2.0 wrote:Hey Lifer, I live in Sacramento and I am constantly surrounded by crimson and gold douche-baggery. "Fans" that talk about the good old days that aren't even old enough to have experienced them, and ridicule when I'm wearing any ' Hawks gear. Even when we owned the division Whiner fans would run their mouths about their historical greatness, blah blah blah.

So naturally I enjoy seeing them suffer.

I can understand that. I was born in 1980, so though I was alive I was far to young to remember most of those times.

This might be the first time you hear a Niner fan say this, but I agree that constantly pointing out our history is pathetic when being used in a discussion between rival fans in regards to which team is better. Maybe it is just me but I am more concerned with who's team is better now and who's team is capable of winning now, not who has won in the past.

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1 - Division rival. Prior to moving into the NFC West, I have pulled for the 9ers during their Superbowl runs. 2 - Sharpie incident3 - Rams going from the hunted to also ran after the Greatest Show on Turf went away (see Mike Martz hatred to compare with current Harbaugh craze. And of course Mike Singletary craziness).4 - Previous successes, though dated are constantly used as a way to trump any attempt to discuss teams current competitive advantages. 5 - Elitism due to past, though earned not taken well.6 - Recent influx of 9ers fans over the past few years due to their recent success gives some an impression that many of their fans only want to talk now that things have picked up. (There are 9ers fans who have been here since mid-2000s when Nolan was coach but most have not showed up until Harbaugh took over). But we have folks that haven't shown up around here until after Mora left, so it cuts both ways, but that is just my thought.

Some have other reasons that go back decades of why they hate the 9ers. I cannot speak to those feelings. The list above is only my general thoughts on why there is so much pushback to any 9ers fans conversation. To me sometimes it seems to be a complex with some but maybe it is just good ole fan rivalry at its finest?

If you come with sword lowered, you are going to get skewered. If you come with shield raised, you are going to get called out as a troll. I would just assume that a hornet's nest will appear whenever posting as a rival fan. Too much in common as far as goals. If you were from another division or a non-threat to the fans here, maybe you get a majority of non-confrontational responses. Even the good guys (Ravens, Patriots, Saints and others) will not get 100% positive responses. Some folks just like being buttholes.

Because of this I was curious as to what some of your opinions were when T.O. was in Seattle briefly before the season started.

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Because of this I was curious as to what some of your opinions were when T.O. was in Seattle briefly before the season started.

Wouldn't have been my decision to bring him in. I thought he was done and not really a fan of his antics over the years. As a fan of the team, if the HC thought he would help, I would have pulled for him to be successful. I was surprised how quickly Pete decided to let him go. Same with Winslow. One thing folks have to admit is that the FO/HC will not hesitate in letting former star veterans walk. See Lendale White, Houshmanzadeh.

I think it has something to do with the fact that your fans are really obnoxious, have a tendency to bring up long past success like it has a bearing on future success, and they also have questionable hygienic standards. Your team has been winning a lot of games so naturally the trolls start to come out of the woodwork, pestering the members of this forum with their ridiculous homerisms and ill-formed smack talk. I don't expect it to be so bad this next season, though, as the 49ers struggle to a 9 win season amidst a full-blown QB controversy as Kaepernick caves under the pressure.

Feel free to contact me if you need legal assistance. I have a great lawyer that helped me with an ex who violated my privacy and kept harassing me on MySpace and Facebook. He's very good. And there is legal precedent. - linuxpro

Because you and most other Niner fans don't know shit about the NFL. You want to talk about whether Seattle or San Fran is better, which is stupid without NFL context. And you have no context. Just look at your post history, no knowledge/all bullshit. And you trip my passive aggressive detector/combination bullshit detector off the scale.

Scottemojo wrote:Because you and most other Niner fans don't know shit about the NFL. You want to talk about whether Seattle or San Fran is better, which is stupid without NFL context. And you have no context. Just look at your post history, no knowledge/all bullshit. And you trip my passive aggressive detector/combination bullshit detector off the scale.

So because I only talk about our two teams? I came here to talk about our two teams because we seem to be the "two toughest kids on the block" in our division currently. When the Cardinals were our biggest threat I spent alot of time on their MB, and I must say they were much more welcoming. If you guys go into a slump and the Rams or Cards emerge as our toughest competition again, i will spend more time on their MB again. I still post on the other boards, but i am here because of the old saying "keep your friends close and your enemy's closer".

If I want to talk about the rest of the league I do so on 49ers.com in our NFL section. What's the big deal with that?

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I started hating SF when they stopped believing in Joe Montana. Steve Young was and still is a total Harbaugh. Since I know you're all wondering, yes I did have a crush on Montana. Of course, had the Hawks been in the NFC West back in those days, I'd have been pretty conflicted.

I'll tell you why I hate SF fans. I'm a season ticket holder. You know how many SF fans you'd see at Hawks-Niners games in Seattle the past decade or so when the Niners were no good? Barely any at all. Now? They're all over the place, puffing their chests out. I don't begrudge them for that, exactly. That happens with most all fan bases. You're definitely going to see more Seattle fans at road games now that our team is good and we're proud of it. But here's the thing about the reappearing SF fans. They taunt you about their Super Bowl titles from 20 years ago. They talk about how much better a franchise it is than Seattle. These same fans who couldn't be bothered to show up for a game for their team a couple years ago are now telling you about how inferior our franchise is than theirs and how it's always been that way. And it's even better when these "fans" aren't even old enough to remember the old glory days. Frontrunning, whatever. It happens. Fans of storied franchises like the Yankees bragging about their history, whatever. It happens. But only with Niner fans do you get both to obnoxious extremes.

Oh, and Jim Harbaugh is the most unlikable coach in modern sports history. I will root against whatever team he coaches the rest of his career.

Who was it that went to the game in SF a few years back and almost got into a fight? I swear I remember something like that happening, it was the game where Hass caught an elbow to the ribs from Willis.

This is easy, your fans were nowhere to be found 2 years ago. Now your fans troll this board and repeatedly tell us how great your franchise is and how bad ours is. Get into any real discussion and they pull out the 5 rings like that matters today. Pretty much everything Seatown said. 49er and foreskin fans are the worst bunch at this, imo, by far.

Harbaugh may be a very good coach, but he's a total dickhead and your fans follow his lead.

hedgehawk wrote:This is easy, your fans were nowhere to be found 2 years ago. Now your fans troll this board and repeatedly tell us how great your franchise is and how bad ours is. Get into any real discussion and they pull out the 5 rings like that matters today. Pretty much everything Seatown said. 49er and foreskin fans are the worst bunch at this, imo, by far.

Harbaugh may be a very good coach, but he's a total dickhead and your fans follow his lead.

You're right, it's the connection between Harbs and PC that draws a lot of Niner fans here.

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Throwdown wrote:Who was it that went to the game in SF a few years back and almost got into a fight? I swear I remember something like that happening, it was the game where Hass caught an elbow to the ribs from Willis.

Seatown81 had a nice run-in with the horde. He, Tech, BFS, Lymon, MysterMatt, PE, Hemifed, Riley12, L80 and others went down for the game (I was supposed to go but a new job at the last minute changed my plans).

Throwdown wrote:Who was it that went to the game in SF a few years back and almost got into a fight? I swear I remember something like that happening, it was the game where Hass caught an elbow to the ribs from Willis.

A whole bunch of us were there. Seatown, Myself, Hemifed, Yakimahawk, BFS, Lymon, Myster Matt, Riley 12, Dom, Nsport, King Grumpy, Pliny, Rockhawk, Pehawk. People in the stands were complete and utter douches of the highesst order, but in the lot tailgating all was totally cool.

What sticks with me was the game and treatment there. I expect to hear some shit, but not having food thrown on you.

Throwdown wrote:Who was it that went to the game in SF a few years back and almost got into a fight? I swear I remember something like that happening, it was the game where Hass caught an elbow to the ribs from Willis.

A whole bunch of us were there. Seatown, Myself, Hemifed, Yakimahawk, BFS, Lymon, Myster Matt, Riley 12, Dom, Nsport, King Grumpy, Pliny, Rockhawk, Pehawk. People in the stands were complete and utter douches of the highesst order, but in the lot tailgating all was totally cool.

What sticks with me was the game and treatment there. I expect to hear some shit, but not having food thrown on you.

Well that is unfortunate that you had that experience. Pretty sure that those type of fans are on every team though.

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I had a group of friends from all over the West Coast who started going to the Hawks-Niners games in SF every year once we joined the NFC West. The treatment they got from 49er fans (and the complete indifference from stadium security) got worse and worse every year until they finally stopped going.

Yes, every fan base has its share of @$$holes, but yours has been getting steadily worse for years.

Shadowhawk wrote:I had a group of friends from all over the West Coast who started going to the Hawks-Niners games in SF every year once we joined the NFC West. The treatment they got from 49er fans (and the complete indifference from stadium security) got worse and worse every year until they finally stopped going.

Yes, every fan base has its share of @$$holes, but yours has been getting steadily worse for years.

Have you and your friends attended other away games as well, not just at Candlestick to compare to?

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Shadowhawk wrote:I had a group of friends from all over the West Coast who started going to the Hawks-Niners games in SF every year once we joined the NFC West. The treatment they got from 49er fans (and the complete indifference from stadium security) got worse and worse every year until they finally stopped going.

Yes, every fan base has its share of @$$holes, but yours has been getting steadily worse for years.

Have you and your friends attended other away games as well, not just at Candlestick to compare to?

Shadowhawk wrote:I had a group of friends from all over the West Coast who started going to the Hawks-Niners games in SF every year once we joined the NFC West. The treatment they got from 49er fans (and the complete indifference from stadium security) got worse and worse every year until they finally stopped going.

Yes, every fan base has its share of @$$holes, but yours has been getting steadily worse for years.

Have you and your friends attended other away games as well, not just at Candlestick to compare to?

I personally haven't been to a road game since Indy in 2009--fans there were great. Arizona fans were never much of a problem; their heads got pretty big for a year or two after their Super Bowl run but those were just harmless idiots. Places like Miami and San Diego have always been laid back. Cleveland and Cincy were horrible and I doubt they've gotten any better since then.

And as far as comparisons go, a trip to Candlestick in '02 and '03 was a lot more fun for everybody than going there five or six years later so yeah, like I said, your fanbase has gotten worse over the years. I'm hoping when you guys get your new stadium the higher prices will weed out some of the drunken riffraff.

Look, I grew up with nothing but Niner fans around me...this has nothing to do with the internet or message boards. To me this forum is just a new way for them to spew their vile rhetoric. A new way for them to pass on the their bigoted arrogance on to their spawn. You had to have lived it, it didn't matter if it was football season or not. It was a year round thing, constant and unending. What I had to endure would be considered illegal now, simply because I was a fan of another team. I want nothing more than the absolute worst for that organization and their fan base.

Throwdown wrote:Who was it that went to the game in SF a few years back and almost got into a fight? I swear I remember something like that happening, it was the game where Hass caught an elbow to the ribs from Willis.

A whole bunch of us were there. Seatown, Myself, Hemifed, Yakimahawk, BFS, Lymon, Myster Matt, Riley 12, Dom, Nsport, King Grumpy, Pliny, Rockhawk, Pehawk. People in the stands were complete and utter douches of the highesst order, but in the lot tailgating all was totally cool.

What sticks with me was the game and treatment there. I expect to hear some shit, but not having food thrown on you.

On 49ers.com a Niner fan that lives there in Seattle posted that whenever he goes to C-Link for our annual matchup he is treated to the type of treatment that you are talking about. Said that your fans even also make comments about his wife and kids who are right next to him.

So it seems that Niner fans have the same reasons for hating Seahawk fans.

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I'll admit, I don't hate the Niners, though they are probably my least favorite NFC West team. If the Cardinals or Rams were in the Super Bowl, I'd probably root for them. Not the Niners though.

But that's about as far as it goes. I hate the Broncos, Raiders, and Chiefs much more than I'll ever hate the Niners. I just can't get myself to care about the new division the way I cared about the AFC West. The divisional games are just like any other games to be nowadays.

Throwdown wrote:Who was it that went to the game in SF a few years back and almost got into a fight? I swear I remember something like that happening, it was the game where Hass caught an elbow to the ribs from Willis.

A whole bunch of us were there. Seatown, Myself, Hemifed, Yakimahawk, BFS, Lymon, Myster Matt, Riley 12, Dom, Nsport, King Grumpy, Pliny, Rockhawk, Pehawk. People in the stands were complete and utter douches of the highesst order, but in the lot tailgating all was totally cool.

What sticks with me was the game and treatment there. I expect to hear some shit, but not having food thrown on you.

On 49ers.com a Niner fan that lives there in Seattle posted that whenever he goes to C-Link for our annual matchup he is treated to the type of treatment that you are talking about. Said that your fans even also make comments about his wife and kids who are right next to him.

So it seems that Niner fans have the same reasons for hating Seahawk fans.

But it seriously seems like a lot of hypocrisy is going on here however.

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The worst I've seen at the Clink is a drunk Seahawks fan put his finger in a Niners fans face. Besides that, everything I've seen have been tame. For some reason, Bay Area fans, even in Seattle like to be obnoxious and taunt the homecrowd. To be fair though, the worst crowd I've seen has been Raiders fans this past season. And that was a damn preseason game. I've actually shook hands and hugged it out with Niners fans after the game. So there's that.

"I am curious as to where all of your hate for us originated" Hate is a little girl trying to create drama word, so lets use dislike. Where did the dislike of fan/49er originate?

Fan - Internet action

"But it seriously seems like a lot of hypocrisy is going on here."-It is a fact that you have heard the statement "If you have nothing good to say, don't say anything at all". Now with that great advise tucked away and others you the FAN went with the attack the poster strategy. So as a side liner member looking at fans of the 49ers you cats look like rule breaking, poster attacking trolls. My disliking originated in this thread. Thanks troll.

"This is easy, your fans were nowhere to be found 2 years ago. Now your fans troll this board and repeatedly tell us how great your franchise is and how bad ours is. Get into any real discussion and they pull out the 5 rings like that matters today. Pretty much everything Seatown said. 49er and foreskin fans are the worst bunch at this, imo, by far."-Sums it up for me. Bandwagonville is san fran. I feel they are the most finicky fan base

49ers - On the field

"2 - Sharpie incident"-That was enough to dislike a team.

"Well, one huge difference is that Seahawks fans aren't known for often stabbing opposing teams' fans"-Deadly funny!

The Checkmate photo post above is not only hilarious it also exposes your rebuttal flaws - you are not hard hitting like your DBs

So it is pretty clear that Niner fans and Seattle fans have the same reasons for no liking each other.

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NinerLifer wrote:So it is pretty clear that Niner fans and Seattle fans have the same reasons for no liking each other.

Um, no. First off, even you admit that it's annoying for fans to constantly spout off about their history of championships. Seahawks fans don't do that for obvious reasons.

Second, you found one guy on a message board who says that he gets hassled at Seahawk games. Several people here have spoken up about being hassled at Niner games, and when you throw in the Saints fan that's people from more than one fanbase chiming in about what a pain in the ass it is to go to Candlestick as a visiting fan.

Third, others on this thread have talked about the general level of douchebaggery amongst Niner fans they have had to deal with and live with. You never responded to Blitzfan's post about what it was like for him or presented evidence that is is just as difficult living as a Niner fan amongst Seahawks fans.

So no, we don't have the same reasons. Niner fans constantly throw their past championships in other people's faces, Niner fans are more likely to hassle opposing fans at a game, and Niner fans are more likely to be a pain in the @$$ in general. Not all of them, certainly, but you are more likely to find a idiot wearing a red jersey than a blue one.

NinerLifer wrote:So it is pretty clear that Niner fans and Seattle fans have the same reasons for no liking each other.

HELL NO.

As Doc pointed out, I was the one who almost got in a fight at Candledump. I had a good deal to drink, so didn't realize how far I ventured above our seats when I went up to tell a dude to stop throwing crap at us. Guy gets right up in my face and spits in it point blank. The rest of our group was too far away to do anything besides yell at me to come back and sit down. I had to use every ounce of restraint in my body to not deck the guy. But thankfully did, as if I had, I'd have been jumped by everyone around me. That was inside the stadium. Outside the stadium myself and 3 friends had beers poured on our heads while walking to the stadium and not saying a word.

You asked another poster if he'd attended away games in other cities. I have. I have been to 11 different stadiums. San Francisco is the BY FAR the worst experience and worst fans I've EVER encountered. Any SF fan complaining about Seattle is just being an overly sensitive bitch. I've had season tickets since the Kingdome. Our fans talk a lot of crap. And you'll have a fight every once in a while (just like any stadium). But you do not even get to for a second right off SF fans as one in the same with Seattle. Our stadium has a "Keep it PG rated" behavior enforcement and throws out unruly home fans at the drop of a hat. At your dump, after getting food thrown at me for half a game and spit in the face, I tried talking to an usher and was told, "What am I supposed to do about it?" Your bad fans are Raider fans painted red. It's as simple as that. As pinksheets has said a couple times now. You guys have made a rep of stabbing people. A Seattle fan was stabbed that same day. SF is the only stadium I've visted out of 11 cities where I won't go back.

MAYBE, just maybe, I'd consider once they move out to the suburbs. Getting away from that crap part of town, and hopefully pricing out your gang banger fans. But even then, I'd be very hesitant.

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