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Please give me a proof that they are derived from the Vedas.Just because they match does not mean that their origin is same. More specifically, I ask “Who taught Muhammad Vedas?” You are doing great disservice to Hindu religion and India by propagating lies about Islam. Who gave you the power to reject the anti-vedic part (a euphemism for violent and inhumane part) of Quran. Quran cannot be changed for Muhammad said in Quran 5:3 “This day I have perfected for you your religion”. Whole Islam has to be rejected for the world peace. See the article “The Illusion of Reforming Islam” by ex-Muslim Ali Sina.

puneet ji i will give you an example like quran speaks of two things about god that god is one but adds that muhammad is his only prophet. now in this example first part is absolutely right as vedas also speaks the same and the second part is absolutely wrong as any one in this universe can follow the advice , the message of almighty god and become pious soul. now you said about who give us right to reject or accept quran. the hindi meaning of word human is manav which means one who do manan or simply says who thinks. the power to think is the best gift of almighty god to humanity and if we will not think then we are mere animals. and thinking should aim to find out whats is right and what is wrong. as swami dayanand had said that one must always be eager to accept truth and reject untruth.

Almost each and every philosophy in the world originates from Vedas. As the time passed, the understanding of philosophy was distorted and hence some anti Vedic part was added. Since Quran came into existence only 1400 years ago. (A considerably large time gap after human civilization started), it is supposed to be most corrupt. The assumption that Allah is protecting Quran from corruption is a total myth.

If Allah & so called angels can indeed protect Quran, why they did not do that for book of Moses, David and Jesus? – the Torah, Zabur and Injeel I am talking about. What was their sins? Humans can be partial but Allah (GOD) too is partial. Strange but true…

I ask “Who taught Muhammad Vedas?”

Well, this question seems irrelevant as the shocking fact is revealed. Mohammed was a Hindu by birth. Kaabaa – Mosque Al Haram is a Hindu temple. Sang E Ashvad is Shivalinga. Mohammed’s uncle was a great devotee of Vedic GOD Mahadeva. That is the reason, while Mohammed destroyed idols of Kaabaa, he retained the stone. The logic that Mohammed was illiterate is proved false by many logicians worldwide. At Mohammed’s time in Arabia, people use to get knowledge by listening. See the links I am posting here for reference.

Many Verses of Quran are added by terrorists. Mullah and Maulvis have made this book most corrupted. This is proved by NON Mullah and Maulvis Islamic scholar. That’s why you are confused. No one is propagating a lie here, It is all a fact.

A man was fond of lions. He told his artist son to draw a lion. When the son was drawing, the man said – What are you making now? Boy replied – Lion’s ears. The man said – Not required. Rub them. Boy agreed. The man again asked as to what the boy is making. Boy said – Lion’s hairs. The man said – I don’t want that. Rub it off too. The boy agreed. He was making lion’s eyes. The man interrupted once again and told him to rub the eyes also. All this continued and the boy ended up with rubbing the entire lion. Same is true about Islam. They think – Kill Shi’ites – absolutely unnecessary sect. Kill Sunnis – Islam can survive without them. Kill Ahmediyyas – a burden on Islam, Kill Sufis – do shirk. Kill apostates. This is accepted NOT only by me but also by many unbiased scholars worldwide.

Frankly speaking, such acts including terrorism are actually problems with Muslim world NOT with Quran. In fact such acts violate Quran 2.256 and hence they will burn in hell permanently for violating the peaceful message of Quran. Let them burn there. What’s problem with that?

Who gave you the power to reject the anti-vedic part (a euphemism for violent and inhumane part) of Quran

Well, this is already answered by Vivek Arya Sir, I am not going into that details. I would only say that GOD gave us free will. Both Quran and Vedas agree with this. Even science admits it. So, what to accept and what to reject; is our sole right. “Every action has equal and opposite reaction.” This is III law of motion. “As you sow, so shall you reap.” This is a spiritual concept. This is the only constraint on our actions. Otherwise, we have free will, no doubt.

This day I have perfected for you your religion

The verse you have quoted is Quran Surah Al Maida Ayah number 3. Quran contains 6000 + verses after that. The way Quran was revealed, it was impossible to recite these many verses in a single day. So, the actual Quran ends up in this particular verse only. Whatever is after this is just some later day addition.

See the article “The Illusion of Reforming Islam” by ex-Muslim Ali Sina.

I have seen that and read in totality. Then only I am here. But reforming Islam is just misunderstood concept. It is NOT as complicated as it is perceived. The simplest and easiest way is to Modify Quran to mean peaceful. An Egyptian reformer has already done that. Youtube out — “Reform islam, update and repackage quran” Watch that video completely. For the world peace, someone must change Quran to imply peace and repackage it to make muslims read it. Majority of Muslims are illiterate so, fooling them is easy. Especially when it is recommended for the sake of humanity.

“Almost each and every philosophy in the world originates from Vedas. As the time passed, the understanding of philosophy was distorted and hence some anti Vedic part was added. Since Quran came into existence only 1400 years ago. (A considerably large time gap after human civilization started), it is supposed to be most corrupt. The assumption that Allah is protecting Quran from corruption is a total myth.”
What is the proof that it was corrupted and what about the authentic Hadiths, they totally agree with what Quran says. Where is the proof that anti Vedic parts were added.

“If Allah & so called angels can indeed protect Quran, why they did not do that for book of Moses, David and Jesus? – the Torah, Zabur and Injeel I am talking about. What was their sins? Humans can be partial but Allah (GOD) too is partial. Strange but true…”
Now you are believing that god exists and Allah is really a god. I don’t believe in god and anyway not concerned with such arguments, I see violence in the Quran and Hadiths, and observe that in last 14 centuries 270 million people have been killed.

“Well, this question seems irrelevant as the shocking fact is revealed. Mohammed was a Hindu by birth. Kaabaa – Mosque Al Haram is a Hindu temple. Sang E Ashvad is Shivalinga. Mohammed’s uncle was a great devotee of Vedic GOD Mahadeva. That is the reason, while Mohammed destroyed idols of Kaabaa, he retained the stone. The logic that Mohammed was illiterate is proved false by many logicians worldwide. At Mohammed’s time in Arabia, people use to get knowledge by listening. See the links I am posting here for reference.

This is all untrue. Read the article “The incurable Hindu fondness of P.N. Oak” by Koenraad Elst.

“Many Verses of Quran are added by terrorists. Mullah and Maulvis have made this book most corrupted. This is proved by NON Mullah and Maulvis Islamic scholar. That’s why you are confused. No one is propagating a lie here, It is all a fact.”

As I asked you above, where is the proof of this. Which terrorist added which verse?
Are you saying that verse 3:151, 4:74, 8:12, 9:5, 9:29, 47:4 and Hadith Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim where Muhammad clearly say “I have been ordered to fight people until they say- there is not god but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger” were added by terrorists?

“A man was fond of lions. He told his artist son to draw a lion. When the son was drawing, the man said – What are you making now? Boy replied – Lion’s ears. The man said – Not required. Rub them. Boy agreed. The man again asked as to what the boy is making. Boy said – Lion’s hairs. The man said – I don’t want that. Rub it off too. The boy agreed. He was making lion’s eyes. The man interrupted once again and told him to rub the eyes also. All this continued and the boy ended up with rubbing the entire lion. Same is true about Islam. They think – Kill Shi’ites – absolutely unnecessary sect. Kill Sunnis – Islam can survive without them. Kill Ahmediyyas – a burden on Islam, Kill Sufis – do shirk. Kill apostates. This is accepted NOT only by me but also by many unbiased scholars worldwide.

Frankly speaking, such acts including terrorism are actually problems with Muslim world NOT with Quran. In fact such acts violate Quran 2.256 and hence they will burn in hell permanently for violating the peaceful message of Quran. Let them burn there. What’s problem with that?”
It’s amazing to see that you are doing what I see devout Muslim (likes of Osama bin laden) do. The verse 2:256 is abrogated by those verses which I have mentioned above as per the rule of abrogation Quran 2:106.

“Well, this is already answered by Vivek Arya Sir, I am not going into that details. I would only say that GOD gave us free will. Both Quran and Vedas agree with this. Even science admits it. So, what to accept and what to reject; is our sole right. “Every action has equal and opposite reaction.” This is III law of motion. “As you sow, so shall you reap.” This is a spiritual concept. This is the only constraint on our actions. Otherwise, we have free will, no doubt.”
No you are wrong. Quran clearly says “ask no question” 5:101-102 , if you can’t even ask questions then where is the free will to do act? Quran on many places like 2:216 says “Allah knows and you know not”
I also want to say that learned Muslims (likes of Osama bin laden) know and you know not.

“The verse you have quoted is Quran Surah Al Maida Ayah number 3. Quran contains 6000 + verses after that. The way Quran was revealed, it was impossible to recite these many verses in a single day. So, the actual Quran ends up in this particular verse only. Whatever is after this is just some later day addition.”
The chapter 5, surah maidah” was among the last chapters that were were revealed in Medina. It does not mean that few verses that came after this one were not authentic, after all they were from the mouth of the same person!

“I have seen that and read [the article “The Illusion of Reforming Islam” by ex-Muslim Ali Sina.] in totality. Then only I am here. But reforming Islam is just misunderstood concept. It is NOT as complicated as it is perceived. The simplest and easiest way is to Modify Quran to mean peaceful. An Egyptian reformer has already done that. Youtube out — “Reform islam, update and repackage quran” Watch that video completely. For the world peace, someone must change Quran to imply peace and repackage it to make muslims read it. Majority of Muslims are illiterate so, fooling them is easy. Especially when it is recommended for the sake of humanity.”
Earlier, I used to think that you are faking that Quran and Islam are peaceful due to fear getting banned by the Islamic theocracy of India but now I know that you are illusioned. The bigger tragedy is that you as a Agniveer believe in it and will fool Hindus with your non sense (sorry, but I had to say it). Your one article undo hundreds of our attempt to tell Hindus regarding the real nature of Islam and needed strategy, the one adopted by Swami Dayanand Saraswati, to end India’s Muslim (communal) problem.
Thanks for your reply which led me know your real face.

Puneet Sir,
Namaskaar!
First of all thanks for updating my knowledge about Quran.

Let me clear some misconceptions. I too am a Non Muslim. I don’t want to hurt your feelings but I am NOT what you are thinking me to be. Firstly, I am only a viewer of Agniveer website NOT Agniveer himself. Frankly speaking, even I see many violences in Quranic verses. But we are human before being a Hindu / Muslim / Atheist so, we are NOT supposed to be a terrorist.

What is the proof that it was corrupted and what about the authentic Hadiths

If someone told you that, he is wrong. Hadiths don’t match with Quran. See the youtube video of “19 questions to Islamic scholars.” Watch all 19 parts to know true face of Arabic community. Biggest terrorists are Arabians only.

Where is the proof that anti Vedic parts were added.

1 important point which you are missing here is: All Muslims are NOT terrorists. Similarly, all Quran is NOT terrorism. There are many violent verses and that is fault of those who wrote Quran. Islam is NOT a religion as such but actually following Hinduism in totally extreme fashion. That’s why Muslims are often extremist. The goal is NOT to find what was anti Vedic. That requires scholarly work and gr8 research but that won’t add up as any fruitful thing. The goal is to find out what was peaceful Quran.

I see violence in the Quran and Hadiths, and observe that in last 14 centuries 270 million people have been killed.

Yes. All that is 100% true. But, have you ever listened to the song – Saare jahaan se achchhaa ? … That is written by a Muslim and the complete text is available on wikipedia. NOT necessarily, every Muslim is a mass murderer and we should think something about good muslims too before making any generalization.

Which terrorist added which verse?

Well, the adders of such verses were NOT Osama OR Taaliban etc. Those verses were added by Caliphs who wanted to have personal gain out of religions. Muslims follow Hadiths seriously but it is exposed that Islam Hadiths are most corrupt and are made by jokers as per Quran 9 97. See the link here.

I am NOT promoting Islam here. My goal is NOT to tell you what Islam is. My goal is to tell Muslim brothers and sisters about what Islam was once upon a time. By the way, when did you find Osama Bin Laden quoting Quran 2 256? He himself said in an interview 2 years ago that Islam advocates death of innocent beings in the name of Allah. A mass murderer will quote peaceful verse of Quran – are you serious?

Quran clearly says “ask no question”

I never knew this. If Quran prohibits asking questions, then it is the worst book ever known to mankind.

Have you just visited the links I mentioned? P. N. Oak is nowhere in those links. I don’t know who is this Koenraad Elst. But one thing is: Unlike any other religion, Hindus aren’t aware of their history. That’s why Britishers started with some Aryan Invasion theory which Hindus blindly accepted. Well, I don’t justify what P N Oak said. His approach is beyond my understanding as he puts Hindu in origin of every philosophy which might end up creating communal riots.

learned Muslims (likes of Osama bin laden) know and you know not.

Thanks for showing me true face of Quran. I initially thought that like any other religion, Islam is peaceful. I take my words back now. Terrorists know Islam and seriously we don’t.

“They say, we are terrorists. Yes we are; that’s what we do for a living.”
Sheikh Mohammed.
Al – Qaeda member

fear getting banned by the Islamic theocracy of India

What a joke! Indian theocracy isn’t Islamic but Indian democracy is. The rule of democracy says that we elect our government and hence there is something wrong with us.

hundreds of our attempt to tell Hindus regarding the real nature of Islam and needed strategy,

I am an Indian and would appreciate if you can tell some good mechanism to fight with terrorism. What is needed strategy according to you? If possible, we must implement such things. I would say that we should be united. If as an Indian patriot (Puneet), you started criticizing another Indian patriot (Agniveer), who will take care of Jihadis?

I would only say that if there is indeed some peaceful NON violent mechanism to end up this communal problem, that must be adopted. Hindu – Muslim war must be a last option. Our goal is NOT to put a Hindu against a Muslim as that will support what Britishers wanted – Divide and Rule; BUT to put a Muslim against an Islamic terrorist so that they stop dividing humans into 2 categories::: MUSLIMS AND KAAFIRS.

If terrorists see that they are hated by their own friends (fellow Muslims); they would automatically become peaceful.

The man who wrote “Saare jahan se achcha Hindustan hamara” , later turned into an ardent supporter of the Two Nation Theory and is one of the most revered figure in Pakistan. Thus you see, muslim mindset is very predictable. The moment a muslim becomes conscious of his religion, he may turn into a terrorist.

The only peaceful non-violent solution to the communal problem is to tell the truth about Islam, to show the ugly face of their prophet to the ignorant muslims and to ridicule their religion. We should shame them out of Islam.

This is possible and this is happening. No one wants to live in a lie. The moment a muslim will see he has been fooled by a false promise of paradise he’ll think twice before blowing himself up as a suicide bomber. When the truth about Islam is widespread a muslim will be ashamed to be called one and the terrorists will be devoid of their supply of men and material.

The truth about Islam has been consciously supressed during these 1400 years. No one is allowed to leave this cult to tell the world his or her experience with inside knowledge. But it is no more possible to supress the truth in this age of Internet. The apostates all over the world are being united and the hollowness of their scriptures is being out in the open.

The malady is deep rooted. It cannot be removed by ascribing Koranic passages to the Vedas. In fact, the moment you do it you provide more ammunition to their fire of zeal.