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Well since your not from Cleveland do you know why they call it the rock & roll HOF??

I live here so I know...

Only music that came from R & R SHOULD be in the HOF...

Like R & B ,Classic Rock,Hard Rock etc.

Why the hell is Madonna (Who is a POP artist (Key Word) in the ROCK & ROLL HOF???) Among other artists who have NOTHING to do with the words Rock & Roll...Rock & Roll is type of MUSIC that's why they call it what they call it...I can't help they're putting people that don't even play/sing rock music in their to begin with???

That's like putting a baseball or basketball player in the pro football hof....

Originally Posted by TheShadow

They probably should have named the thing something more encapsulating than "Rock and Roll" Hall of Fame.

Well since your not from Cleveland do you know why they call it the rock & roll HOF??

Well I know that Alan Freed is cooler than **** Clark.

Only music that came from R & R SHOULD be in the HOF...

Like R & B ,Classic Rock,Hard Rock etc.

I think it is too hard to define what genres fit in to "rock & roll" in this day and age. You'd have an easier time "back in the day".

Why the hell is Madonna (Who is a POP artist (Key Word) in the ROCK & ROLL HOF???)

Pop music still has origins from rock and roll.

That's like putting a baseball or basketball player in the pro football hof....

I don't see it that way. Baseball and basketball are completely different sports. Music isn't like sports. It is very easy to cross a ton of genres with just one song in music.

Anyway, in the grand scheme of things it means nothing to be in the rock and roll hall of fame. What is it? Why is it important?

Successful music careers are better measured by longevity, hit songs, album sales, etc. I mean skimming the list of people in the fall of fame... I have no idea who Roy Orbiso or Carl Perkins are and them being on the list doesn't make me want to research it

Maybe some pop rock acts but Madonna has nothing to do with rock music. She really doesn't. She's only in there because of her popularity. The Cars are excellent pop rock and they deserve to be in there way more than a pop princess who's songs are written by a team of producers.

I don't see it that way. Baseball and basketball are completely different sports. Music isn't like sports. It is very easy to cross a ton of genres with just one song in music.

Agree with you there but most folks who are into music know what comes from rock and what doesn't. Bands like Tool, The Cure, Radiohead, Yes and King Crimson are all over the place but when you get down to the core, it's based from Rock music.

Anyway, in the grand scheme of things it means nothing to be in the rock and roll hall of fame. What is it? Why is it important?

Agreed. It isn't important but to an artist it IS an honor to be recognized whether the artist himself cares or doesn't.

Successful music careers are better measured by longevity, hit songs, album sales, etc. I mean skimming the list of people in the fall of fame... I have no idea who Roy Orbiso or Carl Perkins are and them being on the list doesn't make me want to research it

What is success, really? I know dozens of underground bands that most folks would never hear of that I would consider successful. All I have to do is pop in one of their CD's or go to one of their shows and if it sounds kick-ass - they've succeeded from my POV.

And Roy Orbison and Carl Perkins are legends, man - those guys are pioneers in music. I love Roy Orbison. You never heard the song, "Pretty Woman?" That's him. He also played in the Traveling Wilburys with Bob Dylan and Tom Petty in the late 80's, early 90's.

Maybe some pop rock acts but Madonna has nothing to do with rock music. She really doesn't. She's only in there because of her popularity. The Cars are excellent pop rock and they deserve to be in there way more than a pop princess who's songs are written by a team of producers.

I disagree. Pop does belong into Rock and Roll Music, it just change rapidly lately. If you listen to 60's Pop like The Jackson, Ronettes, Temptations, Supremes, Gordy and Phil Spector music it still base on Rock and Roll music, It does have element of Rock and Roll as the title suggest. But I'm not a staunch supporter of today's Pop genre like Bubblegum pop or Dance Pop.

I'm waiting for The Cure, The Smiths, The Cars, Siouxsie & the Banshees, Steve Miller Band, T.Rex, Gary Puckett and the Union Gap, Depeche Mode, and Roxy Music among many others to get in before any more rap/hip hop "artists" get in. A shame for great bands to get slighted time and time again.

Totally agree just because some people are too young,don't care on don't have a clue doesn't mean that that pop/hip hop etc. should be in the ROCK & ROLL Hall of Fame...If I have to explain this anymore I'm going to have to beat my head up against the wall..Why is it in this day and age we have to "Kowtow" to the mass public about them getting somwhere/thing just because we want to make everyone "happy" This is stupid logic make a seperate hall of fame for your music and keep the R & R HOF to the people that actually deserve to be in it for the MUSIC they play!

You know that would be like letting Bonds,McGwire,Sosa and the whole steroid era abusers into the Baseball HOF even though we know they cheated JUST to make someone happy.... Trust me it's coming not right now but it is coming...

Originally Posted by rocky_raccoon

I'm waiting for The Cure, The Smiths, The Cars, Siouxsie & the Banshees, Steve Miller Band, T.Rex, Gary Puckett and the Union Gap, Depeche Mode, and Roxy Music among many others to get in before any more rap/hip hop "artists" get in. A shame for great bands to get slighted time and time again.

Because Smokey & Aretha were R&B,Soul that's what roots that R&R came from..And sorry but last I looked Madonna didn't have any R&R roots...just "Pop" and you may hate Kiss but at least they play R&R so they DO belong in the R&R HOF...

Originally Posted by sKareGlo

When did Aretha Franklin and Smokey Robinson become RnR? I don't know why people are so quick to single out Madonna.

Faith Hill, Chris Isaak, Train, Ronnie Spector, Fefe Dobson, Eric Burdon, Peter Wolf, and Maroon 5 will be performing at the ceremony, but the Rock Hall is not saying which artists will be performing for which inductees.

They are also working on a performance to represent all the songwriters who are being inducted in the non-performers category, with a variety of special guests.

I'm thinking Phil gonna earn a Hall of Fame in 5 years. I think it do not fair that some people inducted twice, If I'm in the HoF, my only speech are: "I only take one for myself, don't expect me to come here for solo nomination."

It never ceases to amaze me as to who they induct and who they perpetually ignore. I also would say I've never heard of half the inductees. How in the hell have Def Leppard never been inducted yet? Or Boston? Boston has one of the top-selling debut albums of all time, for a long time it was also one of the top-selling albums period. Def Leppard have back-to-back diamond albums. Only a handful of artists have more than one.

ABBA
Genesis
Jimmy Cliff
The Hollies
David Geffen

I've heard of them, although David Geffen is an executive, not an artist.