Also - what's this to do with volunteering??
It's more of an issue for events I would say....

Many events bookings have been made already using it... for example the recent dance by jack webb in the gallery. If we are serious about being a bit more proactive about getting more and better acts then this should be a useful tool to contact potential acts.

And one last thing...it is worth saying it yet again. The forest and many people involved here use yahoo, google, hotmail and what not, all of which have committed proven dubious business practices. On top of this many forest people already use myspace!

To say one thing is bad while continuing to use something equally bad or worse...do i have to spell it out? Well that's just hypocrisy isn't it?

I would say it's okay (yes not amazing) but potentially very useful and worth keeping...

Now we have to have some long drawn out debate which is never useful and always distracting...but if that's what people want go ahead. It's really not worth fretting that much over.

I reckon 'digital ethics' is way overrated anyway - there are way more important issues in this world to be working towards...and I don't have to spell those out surely?

Fully against this. Just because you do something that's bad doesn't mean you should go further and further down the dark halls. Just becuase you smoke cigarettes doesn't mean you should become a concentration camp guard. Just becuase the forest has a consumption of oil-based products and has used motor vehicles doesn't mean we can't be trying to work past that and oppose the expansion of oil-pipelines and oil-fuelled wars. That is, well do I have to spell it out? It's just lazy thinking isn't it. Yes, perhaps this isn't the most important thing in the world but all things are inter-related. Take it down take it down take it down. Oh go on do it. Facebook would be slightly better, and it's so much more now, all the cool kids left MySpace when The great Beast Murdoch took over.

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Our big brother's got no heart,
when I get my chance I'm going to punch him in the nose, in the nose, in the nose

Gareth is right, in that there are certainly more important things to think about.

But what does our MySpace page do that we can't do ourselves on our own site? Apart from promoting random drivel from people who say they are our friends, I mean. I know our page says to visit the real site, which is a Rupert free zone. But it could be a bit more prominent. Something along the lines of:

What are you doing looking for us on MySpace, loser? Don't you know that The Forest is far too kool for this korporate krap. Point your flacid browser at theforest.org.uk and do some real surfing for a change. Bitch.

Compare the MySpace blog we have to the BB here. There are 2 posts (count em), and the busiest one has 2 comments, related to telling some guy that he is too late for something that hasn't happened yet. If the argument for keeping MySpace is that it offers another avenue for publicity, then we need to make sure it is good and effective publicity.

I think it's nice to keep some sort of myspace presence because of the number of bands and other artists who use it. It's cool to see all the great people who play here linked there. As stands it prominently directs people to the website, which is fine.

It takes no effort to leave it there and who knows, maybe someone surfs through their favourite band's page and finds out about forest.

But I should add that I agree it shouldn't become second-rate publicity. If the blog posts are crap, delete them. Keep the presence minimal, enough that people can see at a glance what forest is, how they can play here, and big fat link to real website.

Apologies, I meant to say it was for opinion and not action when I first wrote it. I have edited.

It is surely a more promenent issue for another WG, was brought up in Volunteering when discussing ways to make Forest know, particularly for potential volunteers.

This is the only forum i can put a poll on, and was impatient.

I have a neutral opinion as yet. I'm wondering, if people are seeing the Forest MySpace (and, yes, MySpace has a huge usership) and it's not hot, then it's a bit pooh. I like Swith's idea of being more upfront about getting onto our website.

I think we should keep it. But delete everything on there, make a slanderous comment about Rupert Murdoch and then just have 2 links to the Forest Website and the Forest BB. After all there was a topic on the BB a few days saying they want to push the BB so its not just the same 5 people using it!!!
I know its a crap idea, but trying to think of ways of promoting the BB.

Can we have the Events book online so all artists use the BB to book gigs and events? similar to the Cave users!---anyways...maybe i should post that on the "who uses the BB" topic page instead as im getting distracted form the original post.

Hmm, that's a shame. I guess on Facebook it would need to be a group rather than a user account. It could be less like an official presence maybe then, more like an "I hang out in the Forest Cafe" group.

I don't carry any moral/ethical objections.
On a personal level.
I find it the worse kind of school reunion I could imagine.
I'm sure it has value in keeping the multitudes aware.
Dunno does the Murdoch cast his ubiquitous shadow?
Is this legit with the hardcore?
If so.
Can it be one way?
Can we diseminate the word
and ignore the nonsense

I reckon we keep the myspace and make people more aware of why we seriously considered NOT having it, Rupert Murdoch etc. No harm in having a facebook too if someone wants to do that. The more ways people feel they can be a part of the Forest the better.