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I did this several years ago... AFAIR it wasn't hard to get the inserts out. I simply put them back into the new holes and didn't use anything to secure them; just tightening the screws holds everything in place. The most time was spent on determining where to put the holes... (measuring again and again and ...).

What I can discern:- plain version is ~$30 cheaper than the other two;- leather will stretch more than microfiber and the glass fibre version should stretch the least over time;- leather in white only, premium can also come in silver.

Anything else?

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Thinking about getting a pair of vaypors in 47 wide. I ride sidi genius 5 pros now in 48 and am now getting the feeling they are slightly too big and a little too narrow on the side of my midfoot. I have orthotics too. No one ever stocks the larger sizes regularly so I bought them without trying a 47 or 47.5. They were special order which makes me wonder if I should go through this again. Don't think the Bont dealer here stocks anything. Waiting for their response.

Also I am basing my size 47 wide based on measuring my feet and using their online fit wizard. 292mm length and 114m width.

That helps me feel better knowing that matches what I feel and their online fitting tool suggests. I really like the shape of these as it's similar to my favorite golf shoes from True linkswear. Same wide area up front to allow the foot to spread for stability and power transfer.

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Alright so I re-measured my feet more accurately at home and came out at 288mm and 289mm with 113/114 width. Lucky that both feet are so close. Anyways this puts me into the 46.5 Wide for the Vaypors. I want a tight fit and am use to it from my ski racing days. Someone mentioned plug boots in the thread earlier and I dealt with that for many years. My shoe size is around 11.5-12 and ski boots were always Lange 9.5 plugs that I had to custom dremel and blow out in spots.

So I ordered the Vaypors in 46.5 wide in white. Hope they work out and I can sell my sidis for someone else to enjoy them.

Have you guys had any issues using normal orthotics with the wider platform? I use the LG thermo cool heat molded insoles now.

What I can discern:- plain version is ~$30 cheaper than the other two;- leather will stretch more than microfiber and the glass fibre version should stretch the least over time;- leather in white only, premium can also come in silver.

Anything else?

I got a quick reply from the Bont Facebook page - no difference in stretch or stiffness between the two models. Only, Premium is lighter.

Got a pair of bont A1's on clearance from Colorado cyclist. No idea which gen they are. Weight came in at 502g for a pair of 42.5's. Is it just me or are the A1's lighter than the vaypor? Fit seems ok, a little narrow, but too bad. As others have stated, ventilation is garbage, noticeably hotter in the Arizona sun than any pair of shoes I've worn on the bike. The only thing that kind of bothers me is that when clipping in with look pedals, the stupid plastic guard in the front hits the pedal first instead of the cleat, making it a little harder to feel around for pedal entry.

I got my Vaypors today and just got done molding them. They are awesome. I am coming from a Sidi Genius 5 pro in size 48. They were a size too big for me. I ended up with the 46.5 wide in the Vaypor after measuring carefully and using their online fit guide. Worked like a charm as they fit perfectly.

I am going to try the stock insoles first. If I have any issues then I will try the Louis Garneau Thermo Cool insoles that I have. I am hoping the thin stock insoles will be fine as the sole should be molded to my feet.

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