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From dbtgthomas@aol.com Mon Jun 5 04:51:31 PDT 1995
Article: 21789 of alt.revisionism
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From: dbtgthomas@aol.com (DbtgThomas)
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Subject: Holocaust Almanac - I.G. Farben removed 'indicator' from gas
Date: 3 Jun 1995 10:34:13 -0400
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Hydrogen cyanide gas has its own quite distinctive odor, thus I can see no
need or reason for the addition of an indicator. I've also never seen it
mentioned in the Degesch literature on the product, which seems rather odd
for a safety feature. Assuming that it were added and then removed, one
would still be quite aware of the presence of the gas from its natural
odor, which, by the way, is mentioned in safety brochures for the
material. Do you have reference to any published technical literature
which describes the indicator?
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From bzs@world.std.com Mon Jun 5 04:51:42 PDT 1995
Article: 21804 of alt.revisionism
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From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Holocaust Almanac - I.G. Farben removed 'indicator' from gas
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>Hydrogen cyanide gas has its own quite distinctive odor, thus I can see no
>need or reason for the addition of an indicator. I've also never seen it
>mentioned in the Degesch literature on the product, which seems rather odd
>for a safety feature. Assuming that it were added and then removed, one
>would still be quite aware of the presence of the gas from its natural
>odor, which, by the way, is mentioned in safety brochures for the
>material. Do you have reference to any published technical literature
>which describes the indicator?
>From "Nazi Mass Murder -- A Documentary History of the Use of Poison
Gas", Kogon et al eds., Yale University Press, 1993, pp 206, on
Zyklon-B:
"A tear-producing irritant was also added, to serve
as a volatile warning agent in case the gas escaped.
This latter additive was necessary because prussic
acid's bitter-almond smell might otherwise have remained
unnoticed."
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From dbtgthomas@aol.com Wed Jun 21 15:14:42 PDT 1995
Article: 22411 of alt.revisionism
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From: dbtgthomas@aol.com (DbtgThomas)
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Subject: Re: Bashing babies' heads
Date: 20 Jun 1995 14:48:39 -0400
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Jamie McCarthy writes
>If one disbelieves that some
>Nazis smashed babies' heads in, one must give a reason for disbelieving
>all the testimony -- or one must be considered irrational.
I don't think your logic follows, but...
>One of the Germans, a man named Sepp, was a vile and savage beast,
> who took special delight in torturing children. When he pushed
> women around and they begged him to stop because they had children
> with them, he would frequently snatch a child from the woman's arms
> and either tear the child in half or grab it by the legs, smash its
> head against a wall and throw the body away.
Irrationality is indeed the process which would allow one to swallow the
statement "tear the child in half". That is an utterly ludicrous
impossibility for even a very strong person. More soap, I fear.
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From dbtgthomas@aol.com Sat Jul 1 05:17:29 PDT 1995
Article: 22938 of alt.revisionism
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From: dbtgthomas@aol.com (DbtgThomas)
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Subject: Re: Bashing babies' heads
Date: 28 Jun 1995 16:31:50 -0400
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Perhaps the "hairy knuckles" John Baglow refers to is a description of the
foreheads of some of the respondents to this ridiculous thread. I note
that in previous discussions involving bodily functions that med student
input was quickly forthcoming. It would be most interesting to hear some
statistics quoted on the force necessary to tear a limb from a body, let
alone rip the trunk open by pulling on the limbs. Anyone who's ever
dressed out a small animal for the dinner table knows that you have a
tough enough time dismembering the things with a sharp knife, and that
tearing apart the muscle, tendons and other connecting tissue with your
hands would require a tremendous amount of force, quite beyond the
capability of the average human, even a very strong one. The obsession to
demonize reaches a new low here, possibly only exceeded recently by Danny
Keren's pathetic (and I use that word in its true sense, not as a sarcasm)
request for lyrics to the Horst Wessel song that refer to the drinking of
Jewish blood.
Hearkening back to the recent quote of the Yad Vashem scholar, there was
quite enough real evil done during those times to focus on, and it is not
necessary to invent same, especially on this sophomoric level.
Anyone want to comment on the equally bizarre corollary to this story, the
one about throwing babies in the air and catching them on bayonets? (From
the Demjanjuk trial and other "accounts".)
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