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10-14-2005, 05:20 PM

seek3r

Empirical data like this isn’t going to give us the proof we need that gaines exist with PE. We need hard scientific proof done by third parties.

10-14-2005, 05:40 PM

remek

Originally Posted by seek3r

Empirical data like this isn’t going to give us the proof we need that gaines exist with PE. We need hard scientific proof done by third parties.

You are right, we need HARD-SCIENTIFIC Data. Actual experiments. But for now, that ain’t going to happen… So we are stuck doing surveys and online studies. But remember, these studies are better than nothing — A LOT better.

So for now, the proof we have is the survey. If that doesn’t work for you, then the other proof is in the pants of thousands that call themselves PE’ers.

In 2003, on the 50th anniversary of the historic ascent, an occasion marked by banquets and other festivities, Sir Edmund recalled: “After the expedition, Tenzing and I spent quite a lot of time together, but we never, ever, talked about the climb up Everest. I don’t know why. We talked about our families; talked about the world and its problems; talked about just about everything. But we never ever once talked about Everest.”