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However, we were sure Tep would kill the Fire/Fighting thread, but no. Also, Journey to the West has a river ogre character... And we know GF is obsessed with JttW. I feel so bad for you, Froakie.

Uh, thus far there's only one Starter based off JttW in terms of both design and typing, and that's Infernape. Emboar is based off a character in Romance of the Three Kingdom, and I'm guessing that they based it off Zhang Fei from the design. And mind you, RoTK is a historical novel with zero elements of magic or fantasy. No fire, no water whatsoever. The pig demon in JttW has nothing to do with the element of fire as well.

This misinformation is about as bad as the whole "all fire starters are based off the Chinese zodiac" fan-based observation.

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Uh, thus far there's only one Starter based off JttW in terms of both design and typing, and that's Infernape. Emboar is based off a character in Romance of the Three Kingdom, and I'm guessing that they based it off Zhang Fei from the design. And mind you, RoTK is a historical novel with zero elements of magic or fantasy. No fire, no water whatsoever. The pig demon in JttW has nothing to do with the element of fire as well.

This misinformation is about as bad as the whole "all fire starters are based off the Chinese zodiac" fan-based observation.

Well, to be fair, Fake Scans make things bearable until CoroCoro or another source of information. But god, if those imagines ever turned real... I'd consider switching to Froakie unless they're only the middle stage.

That ought to read fake scans make everyone grit their teeth and want to murder something.

i know the starters arent meant to be unbeatable but theyre meant to be strong. So i hope chespin becomes a grass/steel type fennekin a fire/ground type and froakie a water/electric type then they would only have to weaknesses each. I do hope chespin becomes a speedy physical sweeper grass/steel and fennekin stays on four legs.

i know the starters arent meant to be unbeatable but theyre meant to be strong. So i hope chespin becomes a grass/steel type fennekin a fire/ground type and froakie a water/electric type then they would only have to weaknesses each. I do hope chespin becomes a speedy physical sweeper grass/steel and fennekin stays on four legs.

well almost, it's not a type triangle, as it has to be reversable in terms of resistances too, since Psychic does not effect Dark at all, it's an unbalanced triangle,

a type triangle that would work is something like: Steel, Fire, Rock.

Steel beats and resists rock but is weak to fire, fire beats and resists steel but is weak to rock, rock beats and resists fire but is weak to steel.

First of all, the guy never said it was a perfect type triangle. Just that each starter could have a reverse weakness triangle. Which is all anyone is trying to say.
The only time a Psy/Dark/Fight triangle wouldn't work is if the Pokemon were specifically and only those types. Then I would agree that it wouldn't make sense. But your argument, that the resistances don't work, is ridiculous because each starter has their primary type also.

That is the dumbest scenario in history. Why in the hell would you even want to use an attack the opponent resists when you have STAB's power and a super effectiveness against them? The resistances make no difference unless you are truly set on wanting to use an attack that is halved in power against your rival.

First of all, the guy never said it was a perfect type triangle. Just that each starter could have a reverse weakness triangle. Which is all anyone is trying to say.
The only time a Psy/Dark/Fight triangle wouldn't work is if the Pokemon were specifically and only those types. Then I would agree that it wouldn't make sense. But your argument, that the resistances don't work, is ridiculous because each starter has their primary type also.

That is the dumbest scenario in history. Why in the hell would you even want to use an attack the opponent resists when you have STAB's power and a super effectiveness against them? The resistances make no difference unless you are truly set on wanting to use an attack that is halved in power against your rival.

I can see what he was saying. If it isn't an equal triangle both ways it does take a little of the purpose out of it. And who said they would want to create this scenario? It could happen for a number of reasons, none of which matter since that isn't the point.

I don't see why everyone wants these secondary typings. Grass/Dark has a lot of faults. I may be crazy, but I would rather see them keep their singular typing and have more interesting typings granted to the new pokemon discovered in the region.

I'm still holding out for water/poison evo for froakie as there is a species of poison dart frog which is blue and plus alot of poison dart frog species carry their eggs on their backs in what look like bubbles....
Plus dendrobates azureus are a very popular in captivity similar to fennic foxes, it could be that all three are based on common pets?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrobates_azureus
I'd call him azureus ^_^

I'm still holding out for water/poison evo for froakie as there is a species of poison dart frog which is [B]blue[\B] and plus alot of poison dart frog species carry their eggs on their backs in what look like bubbles....
Plus dendrobates azureus are a very popular in captivity similar to fennic foxes, it could be that all three are based on common pets?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrobates_azureus
I'd call him azureus ^_^

That would be pretty cool as it could make a even triangle with froakie being a water poison fennekin could be fire psychic and chespin could be whatever beats psychic.

Last edited by baconrules; 2nd May 2013 at 9:24 PM.

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