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06-18-2014 08:41 PM

suss6052

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesgjt

if u check edmunds.com. it says the titanium focus 60-0 mph in 110ft. max g in 0.91. whereas the focus st 60-0 mph in 112 ft and max g in 0.93. slalom: st in 69.1 and titanium in 68.3. Now just think the titanium is a automatic focus st without tubo and no front aggressive grille. mainly because of the suspension and tires. i jacked my titanium H package up and look over the sport suspension and found that is quite amazing because the jack almost left my car tilt 20 degrees but all the wheels are still touching the ground. they stuff those sport spring to make it harder ride and less bounce. but one question, does the handling package also include the diamon kote undercoat? or that is actually another package. I found my car has the sticker but i cannot see other non h package titanium have it.

The undercoating would be a dealer add on or a previous owner.

The chassis is very stiff even on the lower trim level Focus models, but the only benefit of the handling package over the lower trims is a slightly stiffer suspension and grippier wider wheels, the standard Focus Titanium does not benefit from a brake upgrade, and is also suffering the severe steering limiters just like the ST, although the ST uses a different rack with even bigger limiters and shorter rack travel for a quicker responsiveness.

06-18-2014 08:21 PM

jamesgjt

if u check edmunds.com. it says the titanium focus 60-0 mph in 110ft. max g in 0.91. whereas the focus st 60-0 mph in 112 ft and max g in 0.93. slalom: st in 69.1 and titanium in 68.3. Now just think the titanium is a automatic focus st without tubo and no front aggressive grille. mainly because of the suspension and tires. i jacked my titanium H package up and look over the sport suspension and found that is quite amazing because the jack almost left my car tilt 20 degrees but all the wheels are still touching the ground. they stuff those sport spring to make it harder ride and less bounce. but one question, does the handling package also include the diamon kote undercoat? or that is actually another package. I found my car has the sticker but i cannot see other non h package titanium have it.

01-07-2013 03:25 PM

Alloy

Quote:

Originally Posted by timinac

2012 Ford Focus Suspensions (US)

This is compiled from checking dealer inventory VINs in Etis, parts lists from Fordparts.com, and information from other posters (thanks GhiaFan). It is interesting to see how the different models are packaged. It also makes me wonder if there are errors in Etis. For example, I don't see the "MD" rear springs being used with any model, but I expected them to be used on the Titanium with 18" wheels. Also, the SE Sport uses the S rear springs?

There is no difference between hatch and sedan suspensions.
All models use the same stabilizer bars - 23.5mm front and 19mm rear.
Both suspension packages use standard brake calipers and pads.
There are two different front lower control arms - one for the S model (15" wheels) and one for all other models (16", 17" and I assume 18" but not listed) wheels.
Front suspension knuckles are the same, but different rear (I think) suspension knuckles for 18" wheels.

I have the 2012 SE with 17" Alloy painted wheels and the SE Sport package.

So accordingly I would have to purchase a whole new set of springs and shocks just to get the suspension package of the Titanium with Handling package?

And, is there any way i can tell what springs I have on their for sure? I'd hate to go by a whole new set, when I only may have needed 2.

Last question, does anyone have the part #'s for the Shocks for the Titanium handling package?

Thanks for your help!

Chris

06-04-2012 11:10 PM

raptor1956

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyn085

I tend to have a problem with going below the recommended pressure on the door jamb (39). I was actually really surprised when I saw it, and up until that point just thought that my tires were over-inflated.

The dealership was so kind as to have installed nitrogen (yet another debate), and when I saw that it read 42 on my gauge I was cool with it. That's the only real recommendation that I have for people when it comes to tire pressure-pay a little extra for a good gauge and only use that one gauge to monitor pressure. Throw it in your glove box and you will never lose it.

Sorry, that was . I actually love the Handling Package and would rather have that package. But I prefer a sport-oriented ride. My girlfriend would prefer to not have it, as she likes a softer ride. If I were the OP, I would go test drive both in the conditions you are currently in.

Other side note-I would swear that my suspension got even more firm as things began to settle in (counter-intuitive, I know). This may not be anything more than my mind playing tricks...

To be honest I haven't even checked my tire pressure yet, but I do have a decent pressure gauge.

For most of the car's I've owned the tire pressure I tended to inflate to was 34-38. I'll have to play with the pressure a bit to see how the changes effect the handling and feel.

I guess my thought is that wider tires should need less pressure and I wonder if there is a difference in the recommended pressure depending on which tire you have.

Brian

06-04-2012 07:09 PM

dyn085

Quote:

Originally Posted by raptor1956

I think I'd lower the tire pressure a tad from 42 down to, say, 38. Actually, I think if I were running 18's at 235 wide I'd be closer to 35. There would be a small difference in mileage but it would be a more comfortable ride with nearly optimal handling. It might also make those expansion grooves a little less bone shaking...

Brian

I tend to have a problem with going below the recommended pressure on the door jamb (39). I was actually really surprised when I saw it, and up until that point just thought that my tires were over-inflated.

The dealership was so kind as to have installed nitrogen (yet another debate), and when I saw that it read 42 on my gauge I was cool with it. That's the only real recommendation that I have for people when it comes to tire pressure-pay a little extra for a good gauge and only use that one gauge to monitor pressure. Throw it in your glove box and you will never lose it.

Sorry, that was . I actually love the Handling Package and would rather have that package. But I prefer a sport-oriented ride. My girlfriend would prefer to not have it, as she likes a softer ride. If I were the OP, I would go test drive both in the conditions you are currently in.

Other side note-I would swear that my suspension got even more firm as things began to settle in (counter-intuitive, I know). This may not be anything more than my mind playing tricks...

06-04-2012 04:34 PM

raptor1956

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyn085

Tire inflation is another crazy argument. I keep mine at 3 over all of the time. Makes the ride more firm and has a positive (negligible) difference on mileage. Numerous threads on it.

A for the handling package, I have it on my Ti. I also had a SEL for a month. The difference is substantial. The SEL was way more comfortable, yet stable. The Ti is very firm. I keep the PS3's at 42. I don't know just how bad/many potholes you have, but I would use extreme caution. There is a section of road that just got re-worked on my commute that sounds like I am running over a 4" curb head on. I actually have to slow down for it. And there are also mixed reviews on their road noise. Mine are loud, but only above 65. But I absolutely love how the car rides with the handling package.

One final note, the PS3's will probably only last for about 30k. Something to keep in mind for over $1k tires.

I think I'd lower the tire pressure a tad from 42 down to, say, 38. Actually, I think if I were running 18's at 235 wide I'd be closer to 35. There would be a small difference in mileage but it would be a more comfortable ride with nearly optimal handling. It might also make those expansion grooves a little less bone shaking...

Brian

06-04-2012 03:22 PM

dyn085

Tire inflation is another crazy argument. I keep mine at 3 over all of the time. Makes the ride more firm and has a positive (negligible) difference on mileage. Numerous threads on it.

A for the handling package, I have it on my Ti. I also had a SEL for a month. The difference is substantial. The SEL was way more comfortable, yet stable. The Ti is very firm. I keep the PS3's at 42. I don't know just how bad/many potholes you have, but I would use extreme caution. There is a section of road that just got re-worked on my commute that sounds like I am running over a 4" curb head on. I actually have to slow down for it. And there are also mixed reviews on their road noise. Mine are loud, but only above 65. But I absolutely love how the car rides with the handling package.

One final note, the PS3's will probably only last for about 30k. Something to keep in mind for over $1k tires.

06-04-2012 10:57 AM

jvillareal78

You should always use the tire pressure indicated on the door or manual for that specific car. The pressure indicated on the tire itself is the max that tire should ever be at.

06-04-2012 10:43 AM

DrkKnight614

Quote:

Originally Posted by cappa

my tpms sensor went off this morning... the ones on the right were at 30 psi and the ones on the left were at 20 psi. I put air in them and put it at 45 psi(max tire is 50 psi) will this be an issue anyone thinks?

Posted via FF Mobile You go by what is the recommended tire inflation, which should be in your manual and on the door frame sticker. I doubt it is 45, sounds way over inflated. Check what its supposed to be and deflate immediatly before you mess up your tires. Your pretty much riding on the center of your tires now and the outsides arent even touching the ground.

06-04-2012 10:06 AM

raptor1956

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony407

Look at what you get for a mere $600:

Sport tuned suspension.

18-inch wheels.

Michelin Pilot Sport PS3 tires.

The value is INCREDIBLE. On Tirerack, the tires alone are about $300 each.

One thing I noticed is that the recommended tire pressure for the PS3s is 39 psi. 39 PSI!!! I could feel every bump in the road. I've got them at 32 psi now and I'm much happier.

Tony

Yeah, the price you pay for the handling package is very tempting, but as you correctly point out the tires alone are in the $300/ea range so when you have to replace them...

It was for that reason more than any other that I changed my order to delete the handling package. Between the much higher replacement costs for the tires and the lower mpg the cost, figured over 100,000 miles, would be several thousand more for the 18's over 17's and that's if your're careful and don't f'up your rims...

Brian

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