What were the terms of Fleury getting his bonuses and how close is he to them? I know they were decidedly "easy" but as the team mega-failed in front of him I do not think he is close to many. At least not enough for the big bonus $.

Jim wrote:What were the terms of Fleury getting his bonuses and how close is he to them? I know they were decidedly "easy" but as the team mega-failed in front of him I do not think he is close to many. At least not enough for the big bonus $.

Fleury is able to earn $400,000 for each of these statistical milestones:

20 victories -------- on pace for 11
3.25 goals-against average ------- currently 3.26
.890 save percentage ------- currently .899
1,800 minutes-played ------- currently 2208 (Cha Ching that'll be $400,000 please)
four shutouts ---- He has one
top-three finish in rookie of the year voting - Nope

What's more, the bonus becomes a flat $4 million if he reaches just two of those six as a rookie. Then in the second season it's three of the six to trigger the bonus.

Jim wrote:So... if he can get his GAA to drop 0.01 he would actually get the BIG bonus. Wow, the Pens payroll department is on the edge of their seats...

I'm absolutely convinced the Pens will bring up a bevy of D-Men from WBS to close out the season. They'll say it's for player development (And that will be one reason), but they'll start playing a more freewheeling game just to avoid paying the money.

A top 10 finish among NHL goalies in goals-against average and/or save percentage. Twenty victories. A save percentage of .890 or higher. Playing time of 1,800 minutes or more. A goals-against average of 3.25 or lower. Four shutouts.

While there is an individual payment for each of those, the payment of just more than $3 million comes into play if Fleury hits four of those objectives

davemess wrote:It wasnt just Fleury...... every player had a year taken off his contract.

The contracts are not signed for 3 years they are signed for the 2003, 2004 and 2005 season.

When a year is lost to lockout or strike that year just disapears.

I understand that Dave, but very few contracts are like this one. It's not only incentive ladden, but it's got an escallated incentive. Doesn't sound very fair to the kid.

Maybe not, but he signed the contract and it was his union that took a "principled" stand leading into the lockout only to give the owners MORE than what they originally asked for after the lost season. I don't think he can hold this against the team.

davemess wrote:It wasnt just Fleury...... every player had a year taken off his contract.

The contracts are not signed for 3 years they are signed for the 2003, 2004 and 2005 season.

When a year is lost to lockout or strike that year just disapears.

I understand that Dave, but very few contracts are like this one. It's not only incentive ladden, but it's got an escallated incentive. Doesn't sound very fair to the kid.

Maybe not, but he signed the contract and it was his union that took a "principled" stand leading into the lockout only to give the owners MORE than what they originally asked for after the lost season. I don't think he can hold this against the team.

No, LEAGALLY, he can't. But if there ever was a kid who earned the right to have a bad attitude about the Pens organization, It'd be Marc-Andre.

davemess wrote:It wasnt just Fleury...... every player had a year taken off his contract.

The contracts are not signed for 3 years they are signed for the 2003, 2004 and 2005 season.

When a year is lost to lockout or strike that year just disapears.

I understand that Dave, but very few contracts are like this one. It's not only incentive ladden, but it's got an escallated incentive. Doesn't sound very fair to the kid.

Maybe not, but he signed the contract and it was his union that took a "principled" stand leading into the lockout only to give the owners MORE than what they originally asked for after the lost season. I don't think he can hold this against the team.

No, LEAGALLY, he can't. But if there ever was a kid who earned the right to have a bad attitude about the Pens organization, It'd be Marc-Andre.

I agree, but not about this. The lockout isn't the Penguins fault and everybody lost a year off of their contracts, not just MAF.

It's a moot point because Fleury signed a two-way deal, as all entry-level deals are, and played last year in WBS which ticked a year off the deal. In theory, even if there was a season last year he could have very well been in WBS the whole time. And really the only reason he wasn't in WBS in 2004 was because he was too young or else he would have been there the whole year.