Home Made HK P7 HCA

Albanian AR15.com member prestonlennox recently published photos and videos of a home made HK P7 “half cock action” (HCA) pistol. Working on rumors of a new Heckler & Koch striker-fired pistol, the poster took a Umarex SP9 and Browning HP parts to make this one-off, home made pistol.

According to the OP at ARFCOM:
“Wouldn’t take that Albania too seriously ;)”

JumpIf NotZero

Umarex SP9… As in blank firing replica? Oh this will surely turn out well. +1 for hacking a Browning into the shape of a P7 though.

I (nor HK I’m sure) was aware this is “what we want”. I would think that if someone absolutely had to have a P7 and for someone reason couldn’t get one (I have no idea what Albania is like) the new Walther CCP is probably the closest thing being made, no half cock of course.

I forget… What would be wrong with a striker fired P30 (basterd)? At the same time, I’m sure the P7’s greatest selling point was that people would convince themselves that it would take a bad guy extra time to figure how to use one against them. It was an interesting design, but it’s pretty well dead.

Burst

Metal frame, single stack, godly trigger, fixed barrel.

The P30 does not do any of those things.

Rusty Shackleford

Those are the same reasons I like the HK P9S pistol.

JumpIf NotZero

Good points except for metal frame.

Burst

Metal= greater sectional weight and reduced recoil, which is important in a blowback gun.

iksnilol

Metal frame = bad?

Metal frames are good, less shrapnel in your face when/if it blows up. Also less perceived recoil.

Also, I am disappointed that he didn’t want to keep the gas delayed blowback. Makes it easy to suppress/silence.

Squeezing the grip releases the slide after reloading. That was a neat trick.

Burst

It’s just a class act, all around.

strongarm

P7’s best selling point was, “Absolutely safe, unchanging, light trigger release for each shot “. İt was the first in this field but, beaten by another gun of same concept, Glock after a very short time.

JumpIf NotZero

Much is my point. Going to a P7 now seems like going backwards.

iksnilol

I tought the cool thing about the P7 was that it had a fixed barrel while being chambered for a “normal” cartridge.

DarthMuffon

I’m trying to figure out how this is an improvement over the P7 squeeze-cocker. Is squeezing your gun enough to get a proper grip when you grab it really that hard? Probably a worse trigger, no restrike, carried “cocked” and has that assenine glock-type trigger safety that’s designed to darwin award the idiots that can’t keep their finger off the trigger when reholstering, etc. Make me a partially-polymer P7 (or even just modern lightweight alloys) in .40 without the water-on-the-brain P10 look and now they’ve got my money (again).

strongarm

Though ingenious in design, P7 was not either of a target /range pistol, or a service handgun. It gets quickly heated after a few full magazines and needs healty, unstessed hold to be fired. When overheating present, its steel frame is also as weak as a plastic receiver current autos, since very vital parts are covered under the plastic handle plates. The lack came and spreaded with Glock is the second strike capability, but other features of concept are far beyond the contents the P7 had. Especially Glock with safety ramp drop security and sear blocking trigger automatic safety, can be carried as safe as a “Cocked and Locked 1911”. I do not like that damn brand but have to admire its abilities.

Kyle

Whoever made this video would probably be better suited for product development at H&K then a lot of the current staff. If a H&K p7 m13 were still offered today I would choose that over a glock. 26 for concealed carry especially if the squeeze cocker is already engaged or even a grip safety instead. I like the paddle release design and how fast follow up shots are out of the box no mods necessary.

This video is a great concept for H&K to pick up on do I think the current CEO will pick up on it? No he is still insisting on selling high price tag polymer frame double single action pistols that are $300+ more then their FN and Berreta counterparts and honestly not that much better especially the triggers as well as firing ergonomics in my opinion.

I think H&K is a risk of falling out of favor in the pistol market especially when you can get a sig 226 for about the same price in some cases even $100 less than a brand new p30 with a better firing ergonomics however to H&K’s credit the p30 is one of the most comfortable pistols I have ever held in my hand more so than the 226.

H&K should look into the Striker fired market and look to reintroduce the p7 m13 without the squeeze cocker and I think that it could be a winner for H&K especially if they bring it to market for around $1000. So in closing I think this video is a great suggestion and I hope H&K look into it even though I am not holding my breath on it.