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From: heldal@NOSPAMonline.no (Andreas Heldal-Lund)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: Cult get Grayd cult off net
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 03:26:18 GMT
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On Fri, 17 Oct 1997 01:18:05 GMT, zane@die_spammers.mabry.com (Zane)
wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Oct 1997 00:46:54 GMT, heldal@NOSPAMonline.no (Andreas
> Heldal-Lund) wrote:
>
>
> >Good work Zane! But will Grady get the account back now??
>
> Not until wright@northcoast.com and postmaster@tidepool.com hear from
> people all over the world.
My English is terrible, but I still sent them this letter:
Dear Madam/Sir,
I am shocked hearing about the cancellation of an account
belonging to a dear and respected friend of mine on
Tidlepool, His name is Grady Ward. I met him on the net and
have learned to know and respect him as a kind person with
a honest and deeply rooted social commitment. He has in the
worst kind of ways been harrassed by the cult known as the
"Church" of Scientology, and because of this he is a valuable
source of information and intelectual contributions on the
highly critical newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
I am told the reason for the action is that Grady posted
"out of topic" in the mentioned newsgroup. We have only one
serious problem there, and that is Scientologists spamming
the group or anonymousely posting the most insulting
personal attacks on critics to this church because we are
so impudent that we dare to debate Scientology. We regulary
see anonymous posts claiming critics of Scientology having
raped their children, supported extreemists, having sex
with animals, doing drugs, or in other ways acted odious.
Their goal is simple and cruel: scare all from daring to say
a negative word about Scientology. I ask you to please reead
this small web page to understand to what extent Scientologists
are willing to go to stop critics:
http://home.sol.no/~spirous/CoS/fairgame-e.html
Grady has felt this. Like many others he have dared to
stand up to the cult, in spite of what they have done and
their threats. I admire people who act instead of bend over.
I was also told that a posting by Grady with abusive language
was attached to a complaint from a Scientologist known as
William Gertner. If you knew what Grady has been through
with this cult, and knew what context the post was made in,
I see no rational reason to why anybody but the victims of
his well founded verbal attacks would want to hinder him
from his right to free speech on the net. Anyway, it is a
blatant lie to say Grady posts out topic in the newsgroup
mainly visited by critics. The mentioned post has an
important mission, and Grady knows this. I don't like vulgar
language either, but that doesn't mean we say it does not
exist and that it has no effect. It doesn't mean it some
times can be used, either as a parody or when emotionally
moved. This cult seriousely gives many reasons to build
up a need to steam off once in a while. Grady and many
others can give you examples that will make you mad, if
you had the time to listen and investigate.
I can only hope that this cancellation was based on
misunderstanding of the biased report from the named
Scientologist and that Tidlepool will correct the error
when they learn the full truth. I beg you at least not to
jump to conclutions just based on reports from Scientologists,
who we know is trained and ordered to lie and twist the
truth. Please read the above link to confirm this serious
accusation.
Please excuse my bad English, it is not my first language.
Best regards,
Andreas Heldal-Lund
Normannsgaten 9
N-4013 Stavanger
Norway
Yours faithfully, Andreas Heldal-Lund - Adm. TOXE CXI
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