If you’re keeping score at home, add San Bernardino’s police chief as the latest to take sides in the ongoing battle between Apple and the FBI. Jarrod Burguan, the local police chief, joined NPR to share his views on the current FBI and Apple privacy battle. In the interview, Burguan admits that there is “a good chance that there is nothing of any value on the phone”, but believes there is the possibility that “maybe there was some information on there that would lead to a larger plot or larger network.”

In the interview, the point is raised that this ongoing discussion is nothing new. The interviewer prods Burguan on his opinion of whether or not the case is “being used as an example for an agenda that was already there.” Relaying that he has a few Apple devices and is a fan of the products, Burguan doesn’t see it as fight between the FBI and Apple. “The larger issue here is do we want companies to have the right to create something that is that much of a potential danger”, says Burguan.

He doesn’t believe that iOS would be less secure over time if access to the encrypted system was given.

“At the speed of technology, this particular operating system will be obsolete in six months to a year. It will be completely replaced by a new system and whatever version of iOS this is will be useless in a short period of time.