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Gerard trying to stir the pot, no names but the inference was obvious to most, very few contributors to the topic still hang out here, wonder why? An eight year old thread, why revive it when it wasn't a big issue then.

Why ???

Around 40 people have voted since the thread was revived and the votes are still divided right down the middle.............
Putting Gerads reasons aside and dealing with the issue in the abstract, it seems that there are two camps on the matter, each with a divergent viewpoint

john

"i guess the old saying 'those of us that think we know everything annoy those of you that does' " --bobbyb 9/13/06

I wasn't going to vote but will - as I see no issue with a pro having a dog on his truck that is for sale that they presently own! But will vote No as I think the original issue was a dog that was not for sale.

In my opinion, I do not see if a trainer had a full truck and a waiting list, that they would have the time to train there own dogs, but for those of use that have delusion of grandeur, by Chance got a national prospect the other dog owners would have to respect that. I for one would not give the dog up to no one. It's just politics, if I had a dog that was a national prospect, I would put it with the trainer with the best Chance to win it all, and it would not be a newbie. The old saying is.--- You are only as good as the dogs that you are training.

Sure he can have a hobby.....running Q's against other pro's!!!!
Co-owning a 6 to 8 year old MH so he or she can win a owner handler Q running against Am's shows a lack of class and no true training ability.

Cold Creek Gundogs
The more I'm on the internet the more I love my dogs.

Sure he can have a hobby.....running Q's against other pro's!!!!
Co-owning a 6 to 8 year old MH so he or she can win a owner handler Q running against Am's shows a lack of class and no true training ability.

As long as the pro is an owner, it doesn't bother me. It is an Owner Handler Q, not an Amateur Q. In every OHQ I have run, the Ams do just fine against HT pros.