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True. But both of those characters are given Byronic manpain backstories to justify their dickish behaviour.
There's also a gender element at play. Is Lunella really that arrogant, or have we just been conditioned to expect female characters, especially children, to act sweet and nice, so it seems more egregious when they don't.

Are people complaining that Lunella is a Mary Sue but then talk about flaws in her character??

I bet these are the same people who claimed that Rey in The Force Awakens is a Mary Sue, despite her arguably having a backstory that explained her feats of skill better than Luke Skywalker's backstory did, and he was just as great at everything he tried.

I find Valeria to be equally as ridiculous but difference is, Valeria isn't the protagonist of her own solo that writes her to be the smartest at the expense of everyone around her.

Guess you never read Batman.

Stuff likes this happens all the time. You read it or you don't.

This is not John Stewart case where you only see him butchered in one Green Lantern book. Kurt and all those guys in appear in way more books to where whatever happens in Moon Girl's book won't get you cat calls of Logan is boring! Kurt is crybaby! Like you see with John Stewart or Cyborg or Duke Thomas.

And yes Majestik was right you didn't hear all this with Val-solo book or not. It was just accepted. And view as a trait for her not a call to boycott Fantastic Four.

This is not John Stewart case where you only see him butchered in one Green Lantern book. Kurt and all those guys in appear in way more books to where whatever happens in Moon Girl's book won't get you cat calls of Logan is boring! Kurt is crybaby! Like you see with John Stewart or Cyborg or Duke Thomas.

And yes Majestik was right you didn't hear all this with Val-solo book or not. It was just accepted. And view as a trait for her not a call to boycott Fantastic Four.

Batman actually gets out smarted in his own book.And people do get pissed when he's hyped up to much outside of it.Why do you think the term 'BatGod' was made?

I bet these are the same people who claimed that Rey in The Force Awakens is a Mary Sue, despite her arguably having a backstory that explained her feats of skill better than Luke Skywalker's backstory did, and he was just as great at everything he tried.

True. But both of those characters are given Byronic manpain backstories to justify their dickish behaviour.
There's also a gender element at play. Is Lunella really that arrogant, or have we just been conditioned to expect female characters, especially children, to act sweet and nice, so it seems more egregious when they don't.

Only in the past few years( maybe a decade by now) have Tony and Scott have been written this way though. They haven't been written to this kind of dickery prior to Marvel dismantling both Avengers and X-Men.

I bet these are the same people who claimed that Rey in The Force Awakens is a Mary Sue, despite her arguably having a backstory that explained her feats of skill better than Luke Skywalker's backstory did, and he was just as great at everything he tried.

I wouldnt call her a Mary sue myself.But the difference is that we actually saw Luke training in using the force. Neither Luke nor Anakian were using the force to its its fullest extent in the Movie they were introduced. That is what pushed her into OP territory to me.

As for her backstory.Its not the fault of the viewers that the director decided to cut a important flashback scene which could have justifyed it.

This is not John Stewart case where you only see him butchered in one Green Lantern book. Kurt and all those guys in appear in way more books to where whatever happens in Moon Girl's book won't get you cat calls of Logan is boring! Kurt is crybaby! Like you see with John Stewart or Cyborg or Duke Thomas.

And yes Majestik was right you didn't hear all this with Val-solo book or not. It was just accepted. And view as a trait for her not a call to boycott Fantastic Four.

Accepted? I'm sorry, but I've seen numerous people who find Valeria to be insufferable. Hell even in-universe her own future self finds her to be annoying.

And while you can try to say that it's a matter of either read it or don't, that doesn't exactly work in a shared universe when the character starts to be pushed by Marvel. Outside of her solo, she's already appeared in 2 events (one of which made no sense for her to even be there considering the reason she was called in), another solo, an X-Men Annual and will be a part of a team book that it's ridiculous to put a 9 year old in.

while we're at it, you know what really ticks me off, this Nate The Great guy...
Who exactly decided he was so great? Don't they realize that his so-called 'greatness' really diminishes characters who have earned their greatness, like Spider-Man??
wtf?