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Re: More on Giorgios Tsalmpouris - Abdelmassih talks Greece trip

Originally Posted by Cincyclone

Did you watch the Iowa vs. Tennessee "tournament game" last year? Woodbury had 16 and 8 on 8-11 shooting against a pretty good front court from UT. You can't honestly say he hasn't improved since he arrived at Iowa. Let's be honest, he was pretty much agreed by everyone outside of a handful of idiot Iowa fans to be a project coming in (like 99% of 7-footers). He just finished up his sophomore season and is far from plateaued as far as potential goes. It will be a tough pill to swallow for some around here when Woodbury is pretty good over the last year and a half of his career.

He's got a LOT of improvement to make to be a pretty good player. One game is great, but statistically he was probably one of the worst starting centers in a major conference.

Re: More on Giorgios Tsalmpouris - Abdelmassih talks Greece trip

Originally Posted by Cincyclone

Did you watch the Iowa vs. Tennessee "tournament game" last year? Woodbury had 16 and 8 on 8-11 shooting against a pretty good front court from UT. You can't honestly say he hasn't improved since he arrived at Iowa. Let's be honest, he was pretty much agreed by everyone outside of a handful of idiot Iowa fans to be a project coming in (like 99% of 7-footers). He just finished up his sophomore season and is far from plateaued as far as potential goes. It will be a tough pill to swallow for some around here when Woodbury is pretty good over the last year and a half of his career.

Well I expect Hogue to consistently drop 34 points, 6 boards, and 2 steals a game this year since he was able to do it his first year of Div 1 basketball against the National Champs. My gosh it was Woodbury's best game in two years playing significant minutes both years. He hasn't even been able to drop 16 pts against some of the scrubs Iowa schedules in the non con. Woodbury may be "good" by his senior year but he certainly has a lot of work to do. His rebounds per game and blocks per game actually dropped this year compared to his freshman year. That is certainly not the categories I want a 7'1" guy decreasing statistically as he "progresses".

His freshman year was 4.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg and 0.8 bpg. You could argue he declined his sophomore year, not improved. I'm sorry, but I'm just not going to say he's a good player based on one game last year. He's got to improve a LOT in a lot of places.

Re: More on Giorgios Tsalmpouris - Abdelmassih talks Greece trip

His freshman year was 4.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg and 0.8 bpg. You could argue he declined his sophomore year, not improved. I'm sorry, but I'm just not going to say he's a good player based on one game last year. He's got to improve a LOT in a lot of places.

Those are comparable to Matt Thomas type stats. It would not shock me to see him improve a fair amount this year and next.

Woodbury will never be Embiid, but he could become a Homan type player, which is nothing to sneeze at.

Re: More on Giorgios Tsalmpouris - Abdelmassih talks Greece trip

Those are comparable to Matt Thomas type stats. It would not shock me to see him improve a fair amount this year and next.

Woodbury will never be Embiid, but he could become a Homan type player, which is nothing to sneeze at.

I think the fact that you compared their starting center to our second guy coming off the bench says enough. Could he become a really good player? Sure. Is he or has he shown he will in two years so far? No. Absolutely he can improve, like anybody can, but he hasn't shown it yet.

Re: More on Giorgios Tsalmpouris - Abdelmassih talks Greece trip

Originally Posted by madcityCY

The TRex jokes are funny, but Woodbury is better than some of you are giving credit for. Like usual, it's the "our guys will improve, but their players will not" mantra.

Tsal is already a better shooter than Woodbury will ever be and he's only 17, the future is a ? for either but I'll take the younger kid who's at least as big and athletic and can soot the 3 every time.

Re: More on Giorgios Tsalmpouris - Abdelmassih talks Greece trip

Originally Posted by HFCS

Thread got derailed about another less skilled and older 7 footer.

I think thread got a little off topic talking about another 7 footer that unfortunately we've all had to watch play basketball and due to watching him play makes us worried about getting a 7 footer. By the way can anyone put the inbounds pass off Woodbury gif on this thread. That was the best.

Re: More on Giorgios Tsalmpouris - Abdelmassih talks Greece trip

His freshman year was 4.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg and 0.8 bpg. You could argue he declined his sophomore year, not improved. I'm sorry, but I'm just not going to say he's a good player based on one game last year. He's got to improve a LOT in a lot of places.

Re: More on Giorgios Tsalmpouris - Abdelmassih talks Greece trip

Originally Posted by HFCS

Tsal is already a better shooter than Woodbury will ever be and he's only 17, the future is a ? for either but I'll take the younger kid who's at least as big and athletic and can soot the 3 every time.

Re: More on Giorgios Tsalmpouris - Abdelmassih talks Greece trip

His freshman year was 4.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg and 0.8 bpg. You could argue he declined his sophomore year, not improved. I'm sorry, but I'm just not going to say he's a good player based on one game last year. He's got to improve a LOT in a lot of places.

Woodbury really improved his ft% which is where the one point per game bump went to. Outside of that it's not a stretch to say he didn't improve from freshman to soph year…but Iowa fans obviously have hope that last game of the year was as sign and not an anomaly. It has clearly been an anomaly in a 60 some game sample.

Back to Tsal though…would a 7'1" seventeen year old who can knock down a deep 3 ever NOT be a top 100 recruit had he played in the states? Looking at where Woodbury was ranked can at least give us a guess, I'm sure they had different strengths and weaknesses as high school kids but it looks pretty clear that Tsal is a better shooter at that age. I'm guessing we'd all be giddy about his 'stars' if he had played here, even though he'd still probably be thought of as a project.

Re: More on Giorgios Tsalmpouris - Abdelmassih talks Greece trip

Originally Posted by sadam

I think thread got a little off topic talking about another 7 footer that unfortunately we've all had to watch play basketball and due to watching him play makes us worried about getting a 7 footer. By the way can anyone put the inbounds pass off Woodbury gif on this thread. That was the best.

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