U.S. Ambassador Speaks Against Indonesia’s Blasphemy Law

Jakarta(ANTARA News)— U.S. Ambassador to Indonesia, Joseph Donovan, Jr., has stated that blasphemy laws are jeopardizing the freedom of religion, expression, assembly and press.

He made the statement in Jakarta on Wednesday in response to the recent decision of the North Jakarta District Court, which found Jakarta Governor, Basuki Purnama, guilty of blasphemy against Islam and sentenced him to two years in jail.

“I am not going to specifically comment about the case, but I would like to say that religious freedom and freedom of speech are founding tenants of the United States. We cherish the freedom of all our citizens to speak freely about their opinions and their beliefs,” he said after speaking during a discussion panel themed “From Drill Bit to Digital Bytes: Thoughts on a Stronger US-Indonesia Economic Relationship,” held in Wisma.

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Grace Kim Kwon

He should speak against the present USA, too. Rich secular nations need some blasphemy laws. Secular people blaspheme too much. They mock something other people hold dear more than anything else in this world. They neither seek respect or peace by insulting other people’s serious religions. USA violates the truth and the freedom of conscience by forcing people to endorse Sodomy this century, by putting skin colors and sexual depravity together in the same category.

It was good and right for for the white people to be forced to treat the colored people equally decades ago. It is altogether evil for the West to force people to treat sexual depravity as a non-sinful lifestyle. People have rights to live out the truth and morality. The West does mega-wrong by opposing the Holy Bible because the region is rich and powerful. USA must live out its creation purpose by giving the Christians the freedom to live out the Word of God.

Colin Rafferty

I think you misunderstood his comments. He is against blasphemy laws, not for them. Why would he argue against blasphemy laws in Indonesia, and support them in the US?

And by the way, in the US, the term “colored people” is rude and disrespectful. I understand you are not an American, but now that you know, please refrain from using that term when discussing US politics.

Grace Kim Kwon

It’s weird USA talks about freedom while the nation punishes anyone who opposes the Sodomic depravity. Secular nations should stop blaspheming; that’s a reality. I’m a colored and I’d like to use the tern for all Non-whites. As a colored, I dislike the term “Non-white.” I’d also like the Americans to know that the West’s condition is worse this century including racism’s matter, not better.

It was horrible to be discriminated as a colored person; it’s like a nightmarish joke that today I have to be bullied for opposing the Western white people and their young mental slaves’ sexual depravity. You guys are too well-fed and bored on a suffering planet. You need Christianity to be sane, really. Wake up. Stop attacking the Christianity which your ancestors and forefathers respected and became great. Read the Holy Bible to be saved and and regain your humanity. John 3.

Colin Rafferty

Feel free to call yourself whatever you like, and to ask people to call you that. But the vast majority of American Blacks do not want to be called that, and just as you’d want your naming preferences respected, you should respect theirs.

Grace Kim Kwon

In my own language, I’m “colored,” a yellow, to be exact. No one should be racist against anyone, especially not against white Christian conservative males. Be fair. Stop pushing immorality upon the Christian population in the West.

Colin Rafferty

Yes, in your own language. I’m just asking you to be polite when speaking English.

Grace Kim Kwon

I’m politely using the word “colored.” It’s again ridiculous you guys are so keen not to offend any humans except for the gentle Christians in the West. Liberal cowards of the double standards should respect Christians utmostly. If you stop bashing your own white Christian forefathers who are better than the moderners in everything, then I’ll listen to you.

Colin Rafferty

There is no way to politely use a term that is well known to be offensive. The argument of “other people are using bad words” is something we learned as children is a false argument.

Grace Kim Kwon

I’m a colored myself. No single drop of white race’s blood in me. I heard some blacks use the n-word and get away. Why can’t I use the word to describe all Non-whites including myself?

Colin Rafferty

You shouldn’t use it because it is considered a slur. It’s basic politeness to not use a term that people find offensive.

And just because friends might call each other N amongst themselves doesn’t mean that it’s okay to use that term to describe large groups of people.

Grace Kim Kwon

I will let the Christian News site to decide that. Americans must know how evil it is for their nation to force mankind to commit Sodomy.

Colin Rafferty

I am not trying to censor you. I am simply telling you that what you are saying is offensive. And by continuing to use that term, you are actively choosing to be offensive.

Now that you are aware that it is a racist slur, your choice of using that term makes you appear racist.

I know that you’re main issue is about religion and the gays, so I really don’t know why you chose to label yourself as racist. It detracts from the message you are trying to get across.

Grace Kim Kwon

Then secular Americans must stop blaspheming. You don’t even live for the Non-whites in the land, but religious people live for the religion. The term “colored” is not a racist slur any more than the words “white” or “black”; I don’t trust you. You are simply trying to silence me. Typical liberals in a Christian new site.

If you really find me as a racist, you would not have talked to me. Every Earthling is racist to some extent anyway. Unbelieving Western whites must stop spreading Sodomy. My message is that everyone is a sinner and needs Jesus Christ for salvation. I choose the word “colored” to make the rich powerful Americans remember how it is wrong for them to make mankind endorse Sodomy and that skin colors are not like the willful sexual depravity.

Colin Rafferty

As I said, I am not trying to silence you. I am trying to help you, by pointing out that how you write sounds racist. I don’t think you are racist, but are simply unaware of American culture.

Now you know, and how you speak is up to you. If you continue to use that term, you will continue to appear racist, and that’s your choice.

Grace Kim Kwon

I got it. I’d like to use the term “colored” to let Americans remember how wrong it is for anyone to make someone else endorse something sinful (homosexuality, transgenderism, etc.) forcibly. I think Americans lost their way by applying their experience of giving all colored people equal rights decades ago. That experience must not be applied to sexual immoral people. No American gave me a better term to describe all Non-whites.

Colin Rafferty

“non-whites” is the best choice here in the US.

Now you know.

Grace Kim Kwon

Is that it? How did you call the Non-whites in the 1960’s? Was it worse than demanding other people to endorse someone else’s Sodomic sin? Is our world normal or better now?

Grace Kim Kwon

How did you call the Non-whites in the 1960’s? Was it worse than demanding other people to endorse someone else’s Sodomic sin? Is our world normal or better now than then? The answer is NO – not at all. Why are you trying to fix my vocab while demanding the Christians to endorse sexual depravity which is for-ever contradictory to the Holy Bible? Can you see my point now? Can’t people have freedom to reject Sodomy in America? Freedom is non-existent if everyone has to treat homosexuality as a non-sin because homosexuality is a sin.

Colin Rafferty

The culture was different 50 years ago. Slurs change over time, like “queer” used to be a slur.

I am not trying to change how you speak. I am simply telling you the common meaning of the words you use. How you speak is your choice.

If you choose to use racist terminology, feel free. But don’t be surprised if people dismiss your religious arguments because they think you are a racist.

Grace Kim Kwon

You should tell your friends to stop using the term “Christian fundies.” I don’t take a double standard. Interpret me whatever. My translator keeps telling me “colored” as “colored” and nothing else. The word “colored” is not racist in my culture. You just need to know you have no life apart from Jesus Christ; you must repent your sin to get saved. Read the Gospel of John and find your Saviour. Cherish your own soul.

Colin Rafferty

I don’t use that term, and those who do are choosing to be offensive. Just like choosing to use the term “colored” it’s being deliberately offensive.

Your may not have known that it is offensive on the US, but now that you know, your choice of using it is choosing to be offensive.

Grace Kim Kwon

Your culture is offensive to God and to religious people.

Becky

You’re perpetuating “racism”…you’re well aware of that. As I’ve pointed out to you before, if you’re Christian then you know and believe that all living descended from one and the same set of parents…Adam and Eve. You can’t say that there is a “white race” (or any other “race”) else you’re not a Christian. It’s just that simple.

Grace Kim Kwon

You are not entirely correct. There are races and tribes and clans and nations. We are from the same parents but the differences do exist – it’s reality. It’s the Western whites that spread homosexuality and transgenderism into the nations today, and your culture( the Eastern whites don’t do that yet) should feel responsible for the sick evil trend on Planet Earth today. I’m very ashamed of my own race’s dog-eating practices and I speak against it to my countrymen, too, calling it barbarism. Every race is guilty of infanticide. Look at the data.

* How to be happy on life
1) Yesteryears
If the landlords do not take away children and if other tribes do not attack and if Nazi soldiers do not round up the people.
2) Today
If the mothers and governments do not kill the unborn children

* How to be happy regarding discrimination
1) Yesteryears
If the white people treat the colored people equally
2) Today
If the Western Sodomites do not demand nations the homosexual depravity that leads to pedophilia and something worse.

Abuses that come from ignoring God’s Word take different faces. Look at the reality as it is or your race will always create victims because Western whites are powerful. Stop playing innocent. Western nations are being the violators of human rights today if they don’t stop persecuting the Christians for refusing Sodomy. Others are being the West’s slaves for wanting more money and simply mimicking.

Becky

There are tribes and clans and nations, indeed, however different characteristics do not create another “race”. It’s not supported by scripture neither is it biologically possible. There is neither biological/genetical evidence to support your comment regarding different races. However, quite the opposite has been scientifically proven…we’re all the same (yes, different traits, but still the same…humans) and there is no genetic evidence that “racially” categorises humans. More importantly…there isn’t a single verse within the Holy Bible that states there are different “races”. It’s clearly stated in Acts 17:26, “And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth”.

“But the Lord said to Samuel, ‘Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the Lord does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.’ 1 Samuel 16:7

And by the way, in the US, the term “colored people” is rude and disrespectful.

So saying “colored people” is rude but referring to them as “people of color” isn’t? I don’t see the difference.

Colin Rafferty

That’s okay, as long as you know that they are different.

Grace Kim Kwon

You American whites are hunted by the 60’s too much. Yesteryears’ Western whites are morally far better than todays.’ Today’s America is a Sodomic nightmare. Just stop forcing Sodomy into the world because that’s a far worse atrocity that ruins global children. Don’t drag other nations into the depravity.

Colin Rafferty

No one is forcing anyone to have sodomy, and if they did, they would be arrested for rape.

Grace Kim Kwon

Trying to legalize the “same-sex” marriage should be taken as a violation against human rights. Giving children the knowledge of homosexuality should be taken as a crime, too. Children have rights to morality, normality, and innocence.

Colin Rafferty

If you are choosing to discuss sex with your children, that is your choice. Proponents of same-sex marriage do not discuss the sexual aspect, but the love and commitment and legal issues. It is only the opponents that use terms like “sodomy”, and are then surprised that their children know what it means.

Here’s what you can tell your children: “when two adults love each other and want to make a life-long commitment to supporting each other, they get married.” See, no sex involved, unless you want to bring it up.

And when they ask about gender in marriage, you can say, “our religion forbids it, but theirs allows it”, just as you would any other religious difference. In fact, just as you would say that Jesus is going to send everyone to hell if they don’t accept him, you can tell them that the same-gendered marriages are going to a special place in hell. It’s not confusing at all, since you are already teaching them about sinners and how they will burn forever.

Grace Kim Kwon

Homosexuality is not love but abnormal lust towards the same-sex members. People should be allowed to view and treat homosexuality and transgenderism as a sin. Marriage is only between one man and one woman. All others are wrong and sinful. Transgender is a rebellion against God. Your explanation makes sin as an optional lifestyle and that teaching itself is wrong and sinful.

Colin Rafferty

You are absolutely allowed to treat it as sin. Do not practice it yourself. Teach your children that it is sin, and that they should not do it. Tell them that people who do it are sinners. That is your right, and I think your religion says it is your obligation.

But the freedom that you have to practice your religion as you see fit also applies to everyone else. They get to live their lives according to their own religious beliefs, and just as they wouldn’t stop you from living your life.

Grace Kim Kwon

But the West takes sides with Sodomites and not with Christians. Sodomites and their supporters can be anything and do anything but Christians cannot even criticize the homosexual sins in public and stay safe.

Colin Rafferty

Everyone can criticize everyone else. People in the US are neither fined nor jailed for their speech, and you have never ever once given an example of this happening to someone.

Grace Kim Kwon

I did and you totallt ignored it. Revist the archives of this new site, even. And if you know the history, the Western Civilization will continue oppressing the Christians until it gets hit badly. We don’t need WW3. Leave Christians alone and let them be, the only truth-holding people in your land.

Colin Rafferty

No, you didn’t. Believe me, I would have remembered if you ever once gave me an example of someone fined or jailed for their speech.

They aren’t. They don’t exist. And if they did — scores of people — you would be able to give me a single name.

Grace Kim Kwon

Liberal Western whites should stop the false pretending of respect. I know you respect no one. If you truly respected anyone or anything, you’d never have blasphemed against Christianity in the first place. The Westerners who mock Christianity are senseless people who respect nobody and nothing. Respect God first. No respect for God = No respect whatsoever. It’s proven by today’s secular society.

Colin Rafferty

Respect is treating people as individuals. I have, in fact, always treated you personally with respect. Please extend me the same courtesy.

I don’t blaspheme against Christianity, unless you think simply stating that I don’t believe is blasphemy.

Grace Kim Kwon

Unbelief is your choice, but I pray and hope you will repent of your sin, change your heart, and return to God by trusting in Jesus for salvation. Read the Holy Bible to find the Truth for your life. Colin, you’ve been indeed mannerly language-wise, but it does not mean your motivation or your heart is good and right. You are determined to spread destructive immorality.

“For I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies,’ says the Lord God. ‘Therefore turn and live!'” (Ezekiel 18)

I wish you Western people will at least stop placing the non-whites with sexually immoral people to rant equality. It’s been absurd-wrong. List homosexual people with pedophiles and incest-practioners instead of different races and nationals. It’s the non-whites that were discriminated against by the whites, not mutual except for the missionaries.

Colin Rafferty

As I already asked, please do not attribute motivations to me that I have not expressed. As I have never assumed your motivations for your conduct on these boards, please don’t assume any for mine.

And thank you for using the proper terminology. I sincerely appreciate it.

Grace Kim Kwon

You revealed your motivation by your comment content. My motivation for you is your repentance and your salvation. Sure. Never blaspheme other people’s religion. It hurts more than using racial “slurs.”( as you put that way)

Colin Rafferty

Unless you consider the factual statement “I do not follow your religion” to be blasphemy, I don’t blaspheme. And if you think that saying this is blasphemy, then you’re going to have to complain about the 80% of the world who also do not follow your religion.

Grace Kim Kwon

No, that’s not blasphemy, but Ex-christian Westerners do blaspheme by mocking the Christianity while being afraid of offending other cultures. ( That’s why they don’t fix barbarism of any type nowadays) It should be the other way around. Respect God and fix mankind’s barbaric crimes.

Colin Rafferty

I don’t mock Christianity, and I haven’t on any of these threads. I know that sometimes you paint groups of people with a broad brush, but when you talk about a specific person (like me), you should treat them for what they do, not for what others do.

Grace Kim Kwon

Okay. Tell your friends not to; I do that, too.

Grace Kim Kwon

Shouldn’t it be “peoples of colors”? Anyway, it’s ridiculous that the blaspheming Western whites have to so tremble not to offend any colored tribes. I think they are mocking us after all, because they place us together with sexually depraved people and rant equality and make stupid blasphemous movies using colored races while playing the brain role themselves.

mikegillespie

Good for him. In any country that is predominantly Muslim, Christians are no threat at all.

http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

Well this polite little sentence is no threat at all. He’s not even angry. He could have raised an eyebrow and got about the same effect.

Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

I’m glad he’s speaking out since Mike Pence basically capitulated to them while his wife ran around Indonesia covered up in a niqab.

Colin Rafferty

I agree with you 100% here. Criticizing religion should always be allowed, and certainly not criminalized. We need to get religion out of politics.

Grace Kim Kwon

Criticizing the Ex-christian Sodomic West’s mental illness should be legal, too. People have rights to live out morality by rejecting to serve Sodomy.

Colin Rafferty

It is absolutely legal to criticize anything you wish. You may be mocked and reviled fire doing so, but you won’t be arrested for your speech. At least in the US.

And no one is forcing you to have sodomy, and if they do, they will be jailed for rape.

Grace Kim Kwon

No one should be fined or jailed for publicly condemning Sodomy/transgenderism as a sin, and no one should be fined or jailed for refusing to serve Sodomy, be it churches or clerks or wedding businesses or bakeries, as in today’s West. By legalizing the same-sex “marriage,” the Western region made all moral people into trouble, though Western Sodomites only target the white conservative Christians (for now). The liberals leave the Jews and Muslims alone.

Colin Rafferty

No one is fined or jailed for their speech in the US, because our First Amendment protects free speech. If you believe this is happening, please provide an example. By name.

As for people choosing to discriminate based on their religious believes, that’s the flip side of our first amendment — you can’t force your own religious beliefs on others, not as a business, and certainly not as a government.

Grace Kim Kwon

The West does not give freedom to street pastors, wedding businesses, government workers, education workers, soldiers, and bakers. If any human cannot live out God’s truth and the clear conscience, that means such society has religious oppressions. USA alone has 50 lawsuits which involve rejections of homosexual sins and abortion-murders. Stop pretending to have liberty. You don’t give liberty to Christians. Morality is partially banned in the West.

Colin Rafferty

As I said before, if you want to claim that people in the US are being fined and jailed for their speech, you will have to provide names, because that is not happening.

As for the people who are being fined or jailed for actively discriminating against people because of their gender, I call that a good thing. Gender discrimination is immoral and illegal. And just as we would fine a jail a Muslim who refused to give a driver’s license to a woman, we will fine and jail someone who refuses to give a marriage license to a pair of men. Even if it’s because of her religion.

Grace Kim Kwon

Speech includes actions and if it happens in Canada or Australia or Western Europe, it’s same as happened in the USA. You are allies and the same British descent and should feel responsible. It’s not gender discrimination but rejection of immorality. It’s foundationally wrong for the West to treat sexually depraved people with women or colored races or other nationals and other religious.

Colin Rafferty

Okay, glad you are admitting that no one has been fined or jailed for their speech.

Grace Kim Kwon

Scores. They’ve been sued and fined and jailed by refusing Sodomy. What continent are you living?

Colin Rafferty

Zero. You have never once named a person who was fined or jailed for speech. Not one person.

Grace Kim Kwon

Kim Davis, for a famous one. Monifa Sterling. Dale McAlpine. Tony Miano. State of Kentucky prohibited preaching against Sodomy in July, 2015. Insanity.

Colin Rafferty

Kim Davis was not jailed for her speech, she was jailed for actively discriminating against a pair of citizens against the specific rules of her employer.

Monifa Sterling was court-martialed for failing to go to her appointed place of duty, disrespecting a commissioned officer, and disobeying direct orders from her superiors to wear the proper uniform. Not for her speech.

Neither Tony Miano and Dale McAlpine were neither fined or arrested in the US. And as a side note, the country that did actually arrest each of them also dropped all the charges.

As for the State of Kentucky, they did not ban preaching against sodomy in public, but banned their own employees from preaching against it during working hours. This is not about freedom of speech, but about an employer deciding what is happening in the workplace.

So, of all the examples, the ones in the US were work-related, and the ones outside the US (which is not what we’re talking about) had their charges dropped.

As I said, you have zero examples of people being fined or jailed in the US for speech.

Grace Kim Kwon

You keep execusing the oppressors against the Christian religion just because you don’t belong to the victims’ camp. Execuses. The West is for-ever a racist slave owner as long as it opposes the Holy Bible. Shame on all of you to let this thing go on.

Colin Rafferty

I don’t accept discriminating from any religion. Kim Davis refusing a marriage license to a pair of men is exactly the same as a Muslim refusing a driver’s license to a woman. Using the power of the State to immorally and illegally discriminate against people.

But that is neither here nor there. Davis was jailed for her actions, not her speech.

Grace Kim Kwon

She was taken away of her rights to live out God’s truth and her clear Christian conscience by the oppressive Sodomic USA. Speech and actions are the same. Read the list above. Sometimes it’s speech and sometimes it’s action. The same. Freedom of speech means freedom of expressions (conducts). Detaching the two is like detaching Americans from American territories. Something not practical and impossible. They are pastors who preached God’s truth. You must admit your culture has no liberty.

Colin Rafferty

Your confusion about speech and actions does not change reality. None of the people in the US were fined/jailed/whatever because of speech, but because of actions.

Davis was not just trying to live according to God’s truth, but trying to force others to also live that way. She was not mocking them or reviling them, or trying to convince them. Those are all legal.

She was actively stopping them from living their lives the way their own religion tells them. And that’s not just illegal, but immoral.

Grace Kim Kwon

Everyone should be free not to give to sexually depraved people marriage license because homosexuality is sin and not marriage. Sexual sins are not like genders or race and skin colors or nationalities. The former is sin, but the latter group is neutral entities. If such refusal is not allowed, such society is under the reign of sexual depravity.

Colin Rafferty

Here is the difference between your views and the US Constitution: you want to enforce your particular religion on everyone else. We believe in freedom of religion.

Davis was not being forced to do anything. She freely choose to have a job that included actions that went against her religious views. That’s her problem, not her employer’s, and certainly not her constituents. No one forced her to be a clerk.

And I think you are mixing up the legal precedents. It was Lawrence v Texas that decided it was illegal to have laws against particular kinds of sex. Obergefell was about marriage an gender. I cannot comment on Davis’s intent when denying the license, but she was specifically violating their right of freedom of association based on gender.

Grace Kim Kwon

You are wrong. Americans jail and fine and bully the Christians for opposing Sodomy. USA has no religious freedom.

Colin Rafferty

Please Grace, we’ve been through this before. Davis was jailed and fined because she discriminated against people. Not because she opposed Sodomy, but because she actively used the force of the State to illegally discriminate against two people.

You should really look in a mirror and ask yourself, “Do I honestly believe in religious freedom?” Because I don’t think you really do. If you believed in it, you would not try to use the force of the State to enforce your religion on everyone else.

Grace Kim Kwon

Opposing the Sodomy is living out the truth and not doing a discrimination. You Western whites totally lost your wits by putting all peoples of colors and all the sexually depraved peoples in the same basket to rant discrimination. You really must stop that. It’s the peoples of colors who were really discriminated against; immoral people should be ashamed of immorality for-ever.

Christianity alone is right. If the Judeo-Christian values are lost, the West forces immorality onto the nations. The West makes the Planet Earth a non-livable dystopia at this rate. Sodomy-supporting Western whites should feel responsible for this. Those who did not raise their own biological children properly should not be allowed to vote in your culture.

Colin Rafferty

It’s not the idea of opposing sodomy that is discrimination, but actively stopping people from getting married that is. Davis’s reasoning for why she was doing it is irrelevant. She was not fined and jailed because of her religion. She was fined and jailed for refusing to let her government office give a marriage license to people who are legally entitled to one.

If in her off-hours, she stood in front of County Hall with a sign that said “Sodomites should be beheaded”, she would have been neither fined nor jailed. It was her actions in denying their legal request that caused her to be fined and jailed.

But again, I’m going to point out that here in the US, when we say “Freedom of Religion”, we mean ALL religions, and not just yours.

You may think that your religion is the only right one, and you may even be correct. But that’s beside the point of whether Davis was discriminating. She may even have been morally correct in doing this, but it is still illegal discrimination.

Grace Kim Kwon

Homosexual sin cannot be marriage. Marriage is between one man and one woman. This century’s perv Western whites should not decide anything on earth; God decides everything. Western whites were superior only when they were Christian, not now. No one should listen to Sodomites. Jude 1.

It’s your Muslim allies who may want to behead the Sodomites, not the Christians. Because of John chapter 8, Christians no longer execute the sexual offenders with adults’ mutual consent. However, that does not mean that consent has anything to do with morality; criminals are just given longer time to repent than the OT era.

All religions and ideologies except for the Judeo-Christian teaching violate human rights and freedom. Western whites do not know this, growing up in a sweet Christian bubble. Western pervs screwed the thing by ranting discrimination by placing themselves with the peoples of colors who truly and innocently suffered various discriminations. Non-religious Western whites’ racism got worse this century. You guys should all detest yourselves for insulting the peoples of the colors.

TheKingOfRhye

She thinks religious freedom means “freedom to be a Christian”.

Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

Islam isn’t a religion. It’s a political ideology.

Colin Rafferty

If you want to slander the billion people who follow those religions, go ahead. But you’re wrong.

Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

I’m sure I know more about Islam than you do.

Colin Rafferty

Well given that you don’t think Islam is a family of religions, I’d say you don’t.

Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

Well given that I grew up with it, I’d say I do. 🙂

Parodyx

From Merriam-Webster:
ISLAM – the religion of the Muslims, a monotheistic faith regarded as revealed through Muhammad as the Prophet of Allah.
Please stop lying on these pages. This is a dictionary definition.

Grace Kim Kwon

Webster didn’t know the Islam’s aim.

Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

Ask ex-Muslims if they agree with that definition or not. 🙂

Parodyx

It would make no difference nor alter the definition.

Grace Kim Kwon

You need to read the Holy Bible. Christians are the only safe humans you can be around with. All others harm you either by helping you sin or hurting you physically or ignoring you; they change as slogans change. Christians alone give you the life-saving truth uncondionally and wait for your repentance as the Lord Jesus does, loving you with the love of God to the end. Only the Christian desire for you iis your salvation and protection.

Parodyx

No, Grace. There are Christians who do terrible things in the name of their religion, just as with people who follow any religion.

Grace Kim Kwon

Self-claiming pseudo “Christians” do that AGAIUNST the Christian teachings. All other religions and ideologies do terrible things by being faithful to their teachings. There is that foundational difference between Judeo-Christianity and all others. You have no salvation other than Jesus. Acts 4.

Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

Google this – written by ex-Muslims. I’m sure they know more about the subject than you or a dictionary website. 🙂

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