different behavior between sencha-touch-debug.js and sencha-touch-all-debug.js

different behavior between sencha-touch-debug.js and sencha-touch-all-debug.js

By using sencha-touch-all-debug.js when I set refs and trying to use getter this.getRef () when the ref has not yet been instantiated is returning undefined.
When I change the app to file sencha-touch-debug.js works properly as it should (if the instance is returned if there instantiates and returns).
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