Wednesday, September 23, 2009

Manager Jared's Weekly Matchup Poll #1

Manager Jared here! I'm going to be holding a regular weekly "Versus Contest" by polling all of you on who would beat who! We will eliminate each losing character bracket style, until only one hero stands! The first battle is between two of the biggest powerhouses from the Big Two companies. Feel free to explain why you'd think one or the other will win in the comments section below.

SENTRY - has the power of 10 million exploding suns. And his power is not limited to any one capability, nor to only his conscious mind. His powers are also said to be virtually limitless as seen in the Dark Avengers when he is killed by Morgan le Fay and then somehow re-materializes in front of the Avengers team back at their HQ. It is also mentioned in the Dark Avengers issues that the Sentry no longer requires most human necessities. He can super-heat his entire body, sterilizing it so he doesn't need to shower, and his digestive system also produces enough nutrients that he doesn't require food or drink.

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I take it back...Sentry would win...his powers are limitless and he could slow Supes to the point where he could plant his super powered punch on Supes not invulnerable head, exploding it. Sentry's powers are technically only limited by what the writer and in this case the voter wanted the outcome to be! I will be changing my vote to Sentry!

I think if his best bud Norman is buzzing in his ear, Clark don't stand a chance! If the Void shows up, Kal is finito. Only chance the alien has is to talk him down, without seeming like a manipulator.

My vote is for the Sentry. Seriously, 10 million exploding suns... TEN MILLION!? One punch and superman will be obliterated. People who read World War Hulk could see when Sentry let loose "slightly" one punched leveled new york city... Plus, Sentry has powers even he doesn't really understand... the void... how EVERYONE on the planet randomly forgot who he was, what else does he have? Superman has TWO weaknesses, Kryptonite AND THE SENTRY!!!!

Good point Josh. Besides, of all the Sentry stories I've read (with the exception of the above-mentioned World War Hulk storyline), I really struggle to think of a time when the Sentry has really done anything. When I think Sentry, I think of someone moping n the sidelines, afraid to do anything. Supes would capitalize on this and end things quickly if he couldn't talk Sentry down. Supes for the win!

I think the Sentry would come out on top. His writer is in complete control of the powers he has, as well as the outcome, so basicly possibilities are limitless because of it...Sentry's writer holds sort of a "god" position over him and therefore would be overseeing and controlling the fight. I don't think even Superman could transcend this relationship and somehow have power over that "being."

Sentry's strength doesn't mean he punches out suns, so he wouldn't superpower supes... it just means the power is equal to the amount of power millions/thousands of suns explode. Also who cares if he is a moper, that doesn't mean that if a fight between him and supes did occur that he would be moping, he would be fighting. If he knew that supes was a viable threat he would let go of his powers and DESTROY superman, as well as probably a state or two... Superman is strong, but not strong enough to beat the sentry in an all out fight to the death...

The Hulk fought the Sentry to a standstill in World War Hulk but Superman KO'd the Hulk in the Marvel vs. the DCU miniseries in the '90s. So, Sentry couldn't beat the Hulk. How would he beat the guy who did?

also, we're talking "World War Hulk" Hulk who was strategic and stronger than ever before! The hulk Superman fought wasn't nearly as strong or smart! So Sentry stood toe to toe with a being that was more powerful than Superman and most likely more skilled in combat! So BOOM goes Superman's head. Excelsior!

I thought Hulk only ever got stronger as you hit him, so what makes you think WWH Hulk was more powerful? Plus, Sentry's writer has never really stepped up to help him out in a pickle and if Sentry asked him to then Supes would realize his weakness and take the writers out of the equation. Superman's head has never gone boom nor would some little nancy-crybaby pants like the Sentry make it happen.

Ok, before I get into who would win lets just throw out a hypothetical as to why they are fighting. They both believe the other is their most powerful enemy. Supes thinks he's fighting Doomsday and the Sentry believes he's fighting the Void in the incarnation that we all know as superman. Superman punches really freaking hard, and the Sentry thinks, "Oh! What a relief, the void decided to only hit hard and maybe throw some lasers or ice breath my way. This is so much easier than the nondescript killer tentacles and transformations with limitless power that I usually fight." Sentry then procedes to rip supermans arm off and beat him to death with it.

I still don't agree with the Hulk being more powerful because if that were the case he would retain power from seemingly every battle he was ever in. And, Eric, in rebuttal to you, the Sentry would have to be able to make a clear headed decision to come up with that rationale and by now it should be obvious that this has and probably will never happen (as well as to not just try to commit suicide or something the second he sees the void again). Plus, Superman could just use super-hypnosis (oh yeah, I went to the silver age power set) on the Sentry and since he is so feeble minded, he would never be able to resist. Sentry is doomed anyway you look at it because though he may have every power his writer can come up with, Superman had decades of writers who were basically doing the same but putting near-countless examples into continuity where I could keep this up forever.

Yeah well your point is invalid due to your use of the rediculous silver age "power set" of superman's because the silver age sentry had his head together enough to stay cool and fight this match without internal struggle, plus the origin is where it states he had the power of 10 million exploding suns so hes focused and all powerful and takes superman with pure strength and power. BOOM!

Yeah well your point is invalid due to your use of the rediculous silver age "power set" of superman's because the silver age sentry had his head together enough to stay cool and fight this match without internal struggle, plus the origin is where it states he had the power of 10 million exploding suns so hes focused and all powerful and takes superman with pure strength and power. BOOM!

Does Sentry radiate any of this power of 10 million exploding suns? Considering Superman draws strength from a yellow sun, if Sentry omits any of this level of energy to his powers could it serve to make Superman stronger during the match?

No Sentry doesn't radiate sunlight, its just the example they use when describing how all powerful he is. Also isn't the void Sentry as well? Lets say Superman "Somehow" does kill or defeat Sentry's body in a fight. That would leave Sentry's OTHER half the void let loose. Not only is the void just as powerful as the Sentry, it isn't crazy and it is in full control of what it does, and what other people do/think, referring to how it made the entire universe forget it even existed... Superman was doomed from the start... What do you got now fanboys? Or are you just voting for superman because he is "Superman"? Hrmmmmm

I stand by Silver age Superman kicking Sentry's butt all over the place and not just because he is Superman. Superman's greatest power was manifesting the "Super-whatever it takes to solve this calamity" just in time. Superman's taken on things more threatening than the void, even Mr. Mxypltk put the void to shame. Plus, I can't believe you resorted to name-calling. Just by being in the conversation more than once makes you a fanboy.

I just wanted to pop in here and mention that TELEPATHY means "communication from one mind to another without using sensory perception", whereas TELEPORTATION means "a hypothetical mode of instantaneous transportation; matter is dematerialized at one place and recreated at another", so if you want Supes to eat Kryptonite, use the latter.

First, I want to give a shout out to two most awesome counter monkeys: Jared and Jim. You two are so wicked smart I think you might be the love child of Brainiac and Reed Richards (even thoguh you don't know Jack about fruit flies).

Introduced to Sentry in World War Hulk, I often thought "This dude could give Supes a run for his money. I love Supes, but we all know he can be defeated.

Oh, so telekinesis isn't moving objects with the mind? Oh, news to me. Also, lets forget he even has the ability to use TELEPATHY, which he DOES. The ability to manipulate radiation means superman is powerless, OR he could change the yellow sun radiation to RED sun radiation, meaning he is even weaker then the average josh.

Wow ... this is going to be tough to admit, and I'm only going to say it once. After reading all your brilliant observations, my mind has been altered. I think Sentry has this one. Please note, this message will self destruct in five ... four ... three ... two ... one .... BOOM!

I thought the same thing Josh said earlier, that Sentry would be supercharging Supes if he were charged by yellow suns.

Superman has 4 weaknesses, kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, and he can be killed by someone who is as strong (or stronger) than he is by brute force (a guy with Superman's powers fighting Supes would be like you and another ordinary guy fighting, you both get hurt).

Who's to say how powerful a Marvel sun is anyway? The Marvel characters are usually less "fantastic" when it comes to powers, I guess that's supposed to make them more "believable" or whatever, so 1,000 Marvel suns might be half the equivelant of one DC sun for all we know. :-P

Supes would beat this guy because he is a better fighter for sure (kryptonian training, trained with..um..Batman, duh, that should end who's a better fighter right there heheh), he beat the Hulk who nearly beat the Sentry (depending on where you were standing), so if Supes beat Hulk and Hulk beat Sentry how could Sentry beat Supes?

Plus, we have so many incarnations of Supes to choose from, most incarnations of Supes would beat Sentry.

We have Silver Age Superman who blew out a star system or something ridiculous when he sneezed for godsakes. Then supercharged All Star Supes (who flew into the sun, (sans disease of course). Then we got Kingdom Come Superman who has been exposed to the sun for so long and absorbed so much of its rays, PLUS matured completely that kryptonite and nuclear blasts don't even phase him.

Only version of Supes that would probably lose if going against Sentry would be Golden Age Supes (who was a hardass, so what he lacks in powers he makes up for in attitude ;-) ), and then probably the Byrne era Supes, who was significantly less powerful than Silver Age Supes (kryptonite would keep him down for days). So 8 falls out of 10, I'd say Superman.

....and if that doesn't work for you, well, Supes wins because the spit curl never goes out of style. Ten years from now Sentry might need a makeover, Supes still won't (mullet what?). ;-)

Because I can create a new superhero/villain that EATS ONE MILLION BLACK HOLES to gain his powers and the reason you've never heard of him is because HE'S BEEN HIDING UP MY SLEEVE for the last 40 years and he CAN DO ANYTHING because I SAY SO! And the reason that you have trouble comparing him with long-established characters is because he BLANKED YOUR MINDS about who he is and his powers and stuff so EAT THAT or something.

If you really want a no debate Superman vs Sentry fight with a win for Superman, let's have the DC One Million Kal-El Superman fight Sentry! Superman was living in the heart of the sun!

I still think though that our current beloved DC Superman would finish off Sentry after a good fight. For all of Sentry's vast power, I think once Superman realised how mentally unstable Sentry is Supes would understand the danger he'd pose to Metropolis or the good people of wherever they were fighting and he'd put his heart into shutting Sentry down or removing him from the scene. The nice thing about Superman though is if he got a glimpse during the fight of what a good guy Bob could be, he'd move Heaven and Earth to get Bob help. Sentry is a weapon in the Marvel Universe and a lot of guys might like that about him. But the reality of it is he's not a hero. Not anymore. But I think if anyone could change that for Bob, it'd be Superman.

I agree with the Superman/Sentry thing. I was just wandering when the Sentry did the radiation manipulation thing? It seems a little complicated for an average guy to get down to being able to specifically alter vastly complicated atoms in time before Superman knocks him all around the place (plus Superman's powers don't just disappear the second he is out of the sun, it takes a little time because his body is like a solar battery). In the end though, I do agree that in a typical superhero fight Superman would seek out help for the Sentry and everyone would have a grand time! This has been fun, now I should probably go do the homework I've been so very distracted from by this fun session.

EACH POLL WILL BE OPEN FOR ONE MONTH.AFTER THE FIRST POLL I REALIZE I MAY NEED TO SET THE STAGE AND SPECIFY THE HERO'S STATE. I.E. CURRENT SENTRY AND CURRENT SUPERMAN. THE ARENA IS BASICALLY A FOOTBALL STADIUM WITH ONLY WHAT THEY HAVE AS WEAPONS USABLE UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED. SOMEONE REFERENCED THE DRAGON BALL Z HYPERBOLIC CHAMBER. I'm having fun, are you?

Beieve me, I dig supes, but I think it's too easy to hold onto him like a security blanket. It's cool to think he can divert nukes into space and bring us back to life by flying backwards around the earth, but I think it' time to accept some "newer" blood as the man to beat. If you can accept the vastness of any universe, then you might have to accept that there might be something out there that can take down the man of steel.

I had to take the Sentry on this one. Here's what's going to happen, Sentry is going to throw Superman into the sun. Superman is going to suffer from solar poisoning, get a cool series written by Grant Morrison (thank you Grant Morrison) then succumbs to the poisioning.

Wow, it took a long time to get to the bottom of these comments! J-Rad, this is such a great, fun idea! :D After reading some comments, I'm leaning a little more toward Superman, but my gut instinct was the Sentry. I mean, aside from my opinion that he has a much better name- and look at the length of his power list compared to Superman's! It's like four times as long! His powers seem unlimited, like Jamie said...and adaptable. And very intense! Also, the fact that they don't depend on his conscious thought must be a big advantage. Having to think just gets in the way and slows you down! If he can unleash his forces instinctively, he's probably faster that S-Man...