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02-08-2000 06:44 PM

JimW

RE:Two-handed rod program

I am interested in this whole two handed rod project. I am a novice fly fisher but I would like to explore different casting methods, this qualifies. I live in Plymouth and have a rod made by Smitty, the workmanship is fantastic. I have no experience in rod building but I sure would like to have a look at the process. Rod builders workshop is only a few miles away from Plymouth beach (my stomping grounds) Perhaps that would be a good area for training and testing. Plymouth beach doesn't have much surf but at low tide there is plenty of room for a backcast and it's a scenic spot. My brother in law and I have beach permits so getting 6 or 8 people out there shouldn't be a problem assuming the plover don't completely shut it down.

I'm in for $20.

Jim Whalen

02-08-2000 04:52 PM

Roop

RE:Two-handed rod program

Thanks.

Since I usually stop in to Smitty's every Friday night, I'd be willing to help out as needed.

Roop

02-08-2000 01:06 PM

juro

RE:Two-handed rod program

Yer IN! Thanks for the support. We're waiting for confirmation on some exiting news on this project.

Smitty has agreed to accept checks at this rod building / fly shop. I'll post the details shortly.

Sorry I've not been more clear on the logistics. I hope to be providing you with that address and a whole lot more detail after I talk to Smitty today. Apparently, our efforts have attracted some visitors to his shop yesterday and he says he has some news for me when I call. Wonder if he's awake now...

For now, I appreciate your interest and will let you hold on to your money a little longer.

02-03-2000 06:04 AM

timwatts

RE:Two-handed rod program

Juro do you have an address I can send a check to? You have shaken me out of my winter doldrums with talk of this project. It took me until January to put striper fishing to sleep now a month later and two months two early I am awake again. Can't shake the visions that big rod shooting a sweat sock sized herring fly into the wash of the Cuttyhunk boulders. I am not sure whether I sould thank you or call you a worm dunker.

Tim

02-02-2000 04:34 PM

juro

RE:Two-handed rod program

Dick -

Thanks and welcome to the forum! Yeah, I agree there is a big misconception about the super long rods. You and I know all about that though. Funny you say 12', I have a 12'6" 9wt euro overhand Sage and it's not too long. I would prefer an 11'6" or maybe even an 11'. I hope to eventually build a 10' as well to find out how two-handers perform at "shorter" lengths. I can imagine it will be a function of rod taper design over it's shorter length in that case. For a lighter design, the RPL 10x10 might be one to play around with. It's discontinued and you'd think you could find a blank cheap.

Looking forward to casting these with you!

juro

02-02-2000 04:23 PM

dick

RE:Two-handed rod program

Yes, I would like to try out the rod(s) you come up with. Count me in for $20. How do I make payment? I hope you choose a rod not too long; prefer under 12 feet. I had a 14 foot Sage at one time. Very hard to land fish because of all that rod hanging out there.

01-31-2000 07:07 PM

juro

RE:Two-handed rod program

Looking Good! We're in for around $120 toward materials. Hopefully we can get it a little higher so I can minimize my out-of-pocket investment for the balance.

I am going to tally and start tracking this in earnest. When I get responses from rod companies we will know what our initial start-up investment level will need to be.

Thanks for all your support and hope we can get this done in time before the herring arrive!

01-29-2000 06:11 PM

Hawkeye

RE:Two-handed rod program

I and my 20 are in. Ever since the Outer Limits clave my brother and I have been dreaming about two handed surf rods. It looks like it will be my next rod purchase or by the sounds of it I may have to take up rod building.

Tight Lines,

Gregg

01-29-2000 09:50 AM

ronl

RE:Two-handed rod program

Juro- I'll keep checking in and i'm interested.rel

01-28-2000 03:23 PM

juro

RE:Two-handed rod program

Ron -

Yes instruction will be included in the rental program. It looks like Tim Watts will also be an experienced instructor, and I expect as easy as it is (no double hauling or false casting) the instruction will be fairly simple. The concerns are to cultivate new two handed line holding skills, which will become automatic quickly and are a lot easier than some of the other concepts mentioned.

One of the high priorities of this is to come up with very affordable options for the big surf sticks.

Glad to have you on board!

01-28-2000 03:17 PM

juro

RE:Two-handed rod program

To capture the duplicate thread's responses before I move the topic...

(1) timwatts wrote:

Juro I would like to try one out. I have been using a st croix 11 weight spey for a couple years now. It's a bit heavy and is not much fun with smaller fish, have been thinking about getting perhaps a nine weight.I do enjoy casting this type of rod and may actually take the time to learn to cast the traditional way with it this year. But it is so easy to haul back overhead and toss 90 feet of line that I never get around to practicing.

Thanks,
Tim

Response:

Hey TIM!

Great to see you made it. I have a 9wt 12.6' sage, european overhead - pretty close to the need but would still like a little shorter, little heavier more focused two-hander for the big surf. The three other Spey rods don't see too much salt, they are for steelies out west.

In any case, your experience makes your involvement all the more critical! Very glad to have your insights on the matter.

I am going to move the duplicate of this thread from the main forum to here. That will wipe out your initial reply as well as this one I'm writing now, but there was a pretty long string of replies on the other thread and we should have it represented in stripers and coastal gamefish.

Look for the changes later on today, you might post any further comments on the other one.

Sorry about the mix-up, in the future I will not duplicate threads

Look forward to your valuable insights in this forum. We will be meeting at Smitty's shop to build the rods over the next several weeks. You are welcome to attend all phases of this.

glad to have you in the forum,
Juro

(2) ronl wrote:

Juro- Sounds like a good idea especially for some one who is interested but scared off by the big price tag of these rods. Would there be some instruction for those who don't have a clue about casting the ultimate long wand? rel

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