"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."

why do people think TIM and cerberus represent some moral grey area? They were pretty evil even in ME2 and their crimes are pretty atrocious. They've always been evil to some degree or another. I never saw them as good guys or even grey guys. They were just bad guys with a purpose.

why do people think TIM and cerberus represent some moral grey area? They were pretty evil even in ME2 and their crimes are pretty atrocious. They've always been evil to some degree or another. I never saw them as good guys or even grey guys. They were just bad guys with a purpose.

Thats called an antagonist. An antagonist can be an anti-hero.
TIM is just a renegade shep that lets others do the work while hes planning.

Actually no. Traditionally an anti-hero is a protagonist. Which is why they are called an anti-hero instead of just a villain (though an antagonist can certainly be a villain). An antagonist has never had any requirements for the role. So while yes an antagonist can have anti-hero qualities it isn't something that falls under the anti-hero label.

There certainly is nothing grey about TIM. Cerberus as a result of their leader certainly isn't grey either. The only grey part of Cerberus are the ones that escape are are no longer part of the organization. Because they realize that they are in fact evil and not just walking the fine line between good and bad.

Last edited by rhorle; 2012-11-27 at 12:31 AM.

"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."

Actually no. Traditionally an anti-hero is a protagonist. Which is why they are called an anti-hero instead of just a villain (though an antagonist can certainly be a villain). An antagonist has never had any requirements for the role. So while yes an antagonist can have anti-hero qualities it isn't something that falls under the anti-hero label.

"The villain usually is the antagonist (though can be the protagonist[link to antihero page)), the character who tends to have a negative effect on other characters."
Antihero antagonist? Really?

And no, Cerb isnt all evil just because you dont agree with it.
Stop confusing your opinions with everything else, its fucking annoying.