Anybody went to FicZone? I checked out their webpage just for curiosity and last year they did so many different activities and only for 5€???? And they had Akira fucking Yamaoka as a guest too! Not sure if it's just bait to lure otacos, but comparing it to JW or FICOMIC, FicZone seems much better...

Also, Albanime has good reviews overall, but people said to me it's only worth it if you live nearby.

>>9687870I like a lot JW, the Artist Alley (or Artist House in this case) is so big and I'm really happy to see so many artists. Also, they're really kind with cosplayers and you can ask any doubt with the staff. JW have a lot of activities ever and when I went on September I could't look all I want to do. It's like SDM but fixing all the problems SDM have, and JW BCN but bigger. The entry costs nearby the same as SDM and I enjoy more than SDM.

>>9688510Seconding this, I'm from Barcelona too, I haven't really traveled much in my life so I feel a bit scared of going all the way to Granada... I don't know if they organize buses to the con from other cities or have any kind of train ticket discounts, like other cons already do, but I recall seeing a "camping zone" in their website for staying at night or something like that. I should check out their website again for more info.

>>9688530Now that you mention it... I haven't seen a lot of lolitas in general outside of cons (except milanoo-tier itas, but we don't count those), but all I've seen in my city are classic or gothic. I imagine because it's more discrete? Most people in our country would probably overreact if they saw a walking wedding cake desu.

>>9688530I think it's just that classic/qothic is recently becoming more popular worldwide, because it's less "childish" and more wearable, as >>9688566says. I only wear sweet desu and I'm almost the only one in my con, the rest prefer classic or gothic.

>>9688362I've lost faith in anime cons, but Ficzone surprised me. Now is one of the only cons I go.>>9688530I dunno, I usually wear both, first because I like both styles, and 2nd, Spain is full retarded, full of "canis", gothic and classic are more toned down and I've got some problems outside, I cannot even imagine dressed as sweet...

>>9688566If I wear dresses with polka dots or frills/ruffles I'll probably be told that's not la feria so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ just fuck it,I'm not calling anyone out for wearing fake Adidas from el mercadillo de los domingos

>>9688813Same here. If I'm at another city fuck it, I'll walk to the hostal while cosplaying or even go eat or shopping in cosplay if I need to, I mean I live literally at the opposite part of Spain from Barcelona, who's gonna recognize me? But at my city, yikes, I'll just get changed in the bathroom or something. Not risking a neighbour or my hairdresser seeing me walking down the street in full armor or with an extreme cleavage, nope. I'm a pretty boring and normal person irl and don't want people thinking I'm like the jojo guy from First Dates.

>>9688615>>9688505Well I guess I'll give it a try then, I will try convince some of my friends but I guess i'll end up going alone.Do you go to cons alone? I always go with a group of friends so I'm shit at socialicing. Any tips to make friends in a con without looking like a creep?

Does anyone remember when Atelier Pierrot said they were considering opening a store in Seville? It's such a pity they didn't. I'm not from there,are there any Gothic/alternative clothing stores that made them think it could work(but I say it probably wouldn't have done)???

>>9690774Isn't Seville kind of a weird choice? I know it's a big city, but wouldn't make more sense to open a store in Madrid or Barcelona?Well, anyways lolita is not widely spread in spain so I don't know if they would do well anyways. I only know of one store that sells lolita in Barcelona, and I don't think they sell a lot.

>>9690780Some atelier Pierrot pieces could also work for western Gothic,that's why I was asking if there was a goth community (not in the Lolita sense of community) in the city. I do think Madame Chocolat sells enough though? Never been there either,oops

>>9690783They used to have a bigger shop it was gorgeous and well positioned in a busy street, now they are in a really small shop in a smaller street. I guess they didn't sell much. It sucks desu, I loved to lurk, and I still do, but it's just not the same.

I bet they've never been there during summertime, with +45º temperatures...

There used to be a quite big goth comm there, and a couple of gothic shops, but that was a long time ago I must say. Don't know about nowadays.

Anyway, I'm with >>9690792, brands are always gonna be polite when you ask something like this. Maybe they said "Seville" because it sounds more exotic than Madrid or Barcelona; maybe because they visited and liked the city... Who knows.

Hello gulls! I want to make my first order through taobao,the packet will weight about 2kgs and be worth 100€~. How many chances do I have to get caught by customs? Are some shipping methods more likely to be hit with extra fees than others?

>>9690996A few tips:>Big packages tend to get caught more often in customs>100% of the times I ordered via EMS (anything, not just Taobao) got caught in customs>Customs fees are expensive af>Some shopping services mark down the real cost of your order to try avoiding customs, but big packages usally get checked

I'd advise you to split your order into small packets, or otherwise get ready to give all your money to the Correos guy. Good luck anon!

>>9691012Nayrt i'm going to cancel my order now. I can't afford any custom fees, especially with the SS around the corner. Will they give me my money back? I already paid for the items, just not the shipping.

Do you know any store or place (around Barcelona if possible) that make custom badges for a reasonable price? I need some for my itabag, I only need like 4 or 5 badges with different prints, but the online stores I found are pretty pricey for small orders...

>>9691872>>9691874Copy centers in my area don't make button badges (I live far from the capital), and the online stores I found are only worth it for big quantities. I'm sure there should be places in Barcelona to make badges or even online Spanish stores but I don't know any, so that's why I'm asking for help...

>>9690786barcelona fag here, i dont know how well they sold/sellbut its a known fact that theres groups of weebs (shitty teen emo/kpopfans brats) that go steal stuff at madame just for the thrill, desu i hate those kind of people and hope one day they get caughtthe "arco" scene is full of shitty brats with no morals attached

>>9692304>mfw a good chunk of my friends got involved in the arco scene when I was younger>Lost most of them because they became a bunch of pricksAt least they could go to steal to one of those stores that sell bootlegs and not there, holy fuck. I thought the group was beginning to die tho.

>>9692351Some months ago one mother of a girl go went to arco tried to report to the police and made a change.org to stop arcofags reunite in arco. She said they made satanic rituals and talk about satan in arco. That was funny tho.

I have the feeling that lately it's become harder for me to meet new people at cons, and I don't know if it is because with time I've improved at telling apart the toxic people, or the spanish con scene has become worse. I've thought of doing a spanish /cgl/ discor server, but i think I'll wait until this is more consolidated and we build a decent community I guess.I kinda miss the old days when I didn't give a fuck and met lots of people, it had some bad moments but good ones as well.

>>9694258Idk about the con scene because I just go there and buy merch and do my thing with my friends,but I feel that cons here in Spain have become more of a "mainstream nerdy" thing??? Lots of totoro(don't get me wrong I do love that movie) and that kind of stuff

>>9694303That is what I mean. It's the same for me, I go with my friends and do our thing. I'd just like to meet new people.

Tbh I miss being in the artist alley, you always talk with a lot of people and it's a los of fun if you go with friends, It's been more than a year since I had a stand . Sadly all my friends stopped because of poor sales.

>>9694314Well, social media makes a lot. This year i made a twitter and I have a few friends. Thanks to twitter I'd interact casually with people with I have interest in common or a friend of a friend. Now, when I go to a con I talk with a lot of people thanks to that.

>>9697183It's not the vest I've seen, but absolutely not the worst by far. About the self insert... I don't know the artist, but if this is a self insert for promotion as a cosplayer... That's pretty egotistical and sad desu.

>>9697209Oups, nevermind anon, I hope you have fun there anyways>>9697211I once ordered a swiss knife and never had any problem with customs in aliexpress. I think that as long as it's not a machete or a sword or something like that you won't have any problem

I'm going to have a stand in JW Madrid next year, but it's my first time having a stand so I'm kind of nervous. I don't know which fandoms are the most popular here (I'm preparing lovelive, overwatch, and bnha stuff, but i'm at lost for more), or how much supply I should bring.

I know theres an AA thread in /cgl/ but it's mostly USA-focused so I'd rather know tips for Spanish cons. Any tips that could help?

>>9697250I've been into AA stuff for a year or so and I'm also going to JW madrid for the fist time next year. My advice is that you have to find a sweet spot between popular stuff and fandoms that don't get a lot of merchandise. I made overwatch prints and keychains and I sold almost nothing, because the market is oversaturated with overwatch merchandise. But in the other hand, osomatsu for example is a great fandom to make merchandise for example. Because it is fairly popular but it's realy hard to find merchandise in cons. Another option you have is to make some original cute stuff, because maybe that won't sell as well as a popular fandom, but you don't have the hurry of selling it before it becomes unpopular.The only thing I can tell you is that if this is your first time, you probably won't make a lot of money. So go there to have fun and meet people, most of the people in the artist alley are really nice and open.Have fun!

>>9697262I see, thank you! I made some stuff for other fandoms that used to be popular here too. I hope it goes well.If you don't mind me asking, how much do you usually gain per con? How many prints/charms do you usually have prepared?

>>9697323It depends, In some cons I've made barely enough to cover costs, and in others I made up to 200 euros in two days, but I don't go to very big cons anyways. I'ts not a lot, but i know people who make over 1000 euros at big cons.My recommendation is that you don't make a lot of copies.

I go with arround four to six copies of the prints because they don't sell very well and are relatively expensive to print.

Stickers are really cheap so I make a fair ammount , maybe two pages of each design, and i cut some of them in the stand to pass time.

Acrylic keychains sell very well but are generaly expensive to make, about that, if you are confident of your designs, I'd maybe make like ten of each and I'd try to ask other people to make a group order to cheapen the shipping.

Maybe you know but there is a spanish artist alley facebook group, I'ts great to ask stuff like this, and it's always good to hear opinions from more experienced people. It's a private group but if you are interested on joining, drop a contact.

>>9697366Other anon here interesting in make a stand someday. This is really interesting, fanzines are good to sell? I want to make some original story but I'm not really confident to sell it, years ago AA was full of fanzines, nowadays barely I can see it.

>>9698392If you wanna do a fanzine go for it anon, but I don't recommend you to make a stand by yourself just to sell one fanzine. Maybe try to make other stuff to sell as well, or join a group, because otherwise i doubt you will get any income.I'm part of a fanzine myself, but it's from a group that has been doing some others in the past and have a bunch of tomes selling. And apart from that, I have a stand with a bunch of friends where we sell the typical merchandise.

I have a doubt, in big cons I always see a lot of grown men taking photos of cosplayers, they usually have pretty good cameras so I always assumed they were "professional" photografers.But I can't find any pages that uploads those photos. Do they keep them for themselves? because that would be pretty creepy.

>>9707597Spanish cosplay in a nutshell. They can't even stand a fucking opinion, if they get so triggered for a random's comment they shouldn't get on stage.At this point I don't even bother with contests, it's all rigged. I feel bad for all the people who put their soul and heart in the performance.

>>9707594>>9707597Oh dear god, this again?? They always do the same fucking thing when somebody shares their opinion, do they even get tired of shitting on random people on Twitter?? It's common sense, i mean, if you show yourself in public, you have to be open to criticism because there will always be someone who doesn't like your work! And they even brag about being tolerant and openminded. Bunch of hypocrites.

>>9707594well, I saw Chachimina performance and the other LoL performance and Chachimina's group was better, in cosplay skills and performance in general. The others are just crybabys because "Cachimina copied me cuz I'm also doing the same cosplay and she only won cuz she's more famous than me ughhhh"

>>9711796I'm not really in Artist Alley but some friends do (if anybody is really into it please correct me). Most of the time is they choose the first to inscribe, but in ocasions they choose others because they participate in other JW and they know they're relliable or just make something different inside the AA. And you have to be like REALLY QUICK to send the solicitude. In Madrid and Barcelona AA go really fast, like just 30 minuts to be full.

>>9714824As a former visitor of these cons, I used to go there to meet my friends from all over spain, watch the guests performances and some contests and lurk in the artist alley.Nowadays I go to sell my stuff in the AA, people are nice and even if you don't sell much, you can have a good time.

>>9715707I don't know but this is arbage, I have to book my flight as soon as possible but I can't until they confirm it. There are just too many people who want a stand now and the worst par is that there is no quality control, so some good artists are going to get rejected while lots of shitty novices are going to have their stand.

>>9719377Is one of those people who at first glance is super nice, but once you befriend her and she gets bored of you she tosses you however she likes. When I saw the video they made of her I was mad the whole time. What a dumb hypocrite. And now that people give her a lot more attention she is even more of a cunt.

>>9687842If somebody want to go to the Japan Weekend you can add me to discord GorkaCG #3196

I used to go with some cringy otaku friends, I enjoyed their company, but they were cringy as fuck. And there were like 2 emos and an edgelord that managed to destroy the group. But the thing is that I really miss them, I tried to reunite the group but it was impossible because lots of drama happened. Now I just go with my little brother and some lonely friend.

>>9719377I have a friend Who knows her she says she is a sweetheart, once when i was in Marina with friends we Saw her one of the guys i was with approached her and started grabbing her hair and being a fucking creep while saying OMG i love your hair, she just thanked the compliment and got the fuck out because she was creeped.

>>9692033Mesa = table. The thick tablecloth over it evolves a regular table into a "mesa camilla". Japan has a twin called kotatsu, which works wonders in winter + extra heating. Charcoal was a thing decades ago (still a thing in the countryside?), but cities have electrical heating everywhereThat's the closest local equivalent to a ridiculous puffy skirt with a petticoat and (perhaps) a fat lolita

Has anyone made a big order online recently? Me and everyone I've asked has been hit so hard by customs, I don't know if the usually do it around christmas time or they just changed their policies from now on.

Btw, don't let a single incel from forocoches ruin the whole thread, the mods will just delete his posts eventually.

>>9722934I made an order on taobao, arround 3,5 kg, it cost me 100 euros, and the customs were 36 euros, a friend bought a single figurine in amiami that costed 120 and his customs were 40 euros, so you can figure its pretty excessive.I'm worried this could continue after christmas time...

>>9727098No confirmation here yet. I hope they confirm soon though. How many of each keychain do you order for a con? Is 3-5 okay or should I order more? Also, any idea where to find group orders for keychains?

>>9727656Check cgls AA thread, everyone orders from Vograce. If you drop your @ or link ill look into your stuff! Im looking for spanish artist friends too, but im too shy and most of my followers are english. Also im up for future group orders!

What do you usually buy at salones del manga? I usually only buy silicone anime straps,after making sure they're real(checking the back does it most of the time). Also what bootlegs are you tired of seeing? I hate the halder metal keychains,you can get them in AliExpress for half the price. Are there less bootlegs in other countries' cons?

>>9732257Only AA stuff to support friends and artists, since figures and merch are cheaper to buy online, most of commercial stands are full of bootlegs. Also I'm more into videogames than anime/manga, and there's almost nothing of videogames' merch on cons, so *shrugs*

I went to the Salón del Manga de Barcelona and a girl told me about some Boku no Hero cosplay meeting at the Japan Weekend on Barcelona on march.So I'm making an Inasa Yoarashi cosplay as my first one. I will go anyway there even if there won't be a huge BnH meeting at all.

>>9740604>I'm retarded and unable to understand a psychological metaphor, even when someone is asking the reason why most lolitas are goth in Spain

A country in which 80% of the people are traditional christians, literally a religion who praises death, where Inquisition was created, where jealousy, envy and fucking up your neighbour are the national sports, people are negative and hateful as fuck, etc. So, a pretty dark country.

>>9740604>I'm retarded and unable to understand a psychological metaphor, even when someone is asking the reason why most lolitas are goth in Spain

A country in which 80% of the people are traditional christians, literally a religion who praises death, where Inquisition was created, where jealousy, envy and fucking up your neighbour are the national sports, people are negative and hateful as fuck, etc. So, a pretty dark country.

Who doesn't want to dress as a gothic lolita when you are surrounded by pure negativity and crazyness?

>>9745240>>9740731Have you ever played the game "Terranigma"? Spain is portrayed as a dark, medieval country ruled by a mad queen.

Japanese people think that flamenco sounds like someone's crying.

Also north Europeans think of us as "the insane Christians from the south".

Outsiders don't see Spain as that sunny, happy party people place (actually the Brittish and German are more party-happy people in Spain than the Spanish), but some kind of insane religious crybabys. So I don't know how you guys keep trying to push that fake narrative. Nobody buys that shit.

>>9746639Idk senpai, maybe it is because I live in the coast, but all of the tourists I talk to see spain as a good place to party, going out and enjoy the warm weather, never seen it depicted as a dark country.Spanish cityzens are more aware of the "darker" side of our culture, but still, it's not that mutch nowadays, specially on big cities.

Just a month left for JW Madrid! Any of you gulls going? Do you have your cosplays/merch for AA already prepared?

Some friends told me to go with them, but shit nope I'm not gonna waste my precious money on that garbage of a con neither give a fuckin euro to Iñaki and Koibito. Also they rised the price of the tickets again and I don't get it why Sunday is cheaper than Saturday? Is any special schedule programmed for Saturday or is just bait?

>>9756334I will probably go to the Barcelona's one as I have a free bed there, but i will probably have to share it.I will be there in charge of an anime quiz to promote a little my asotiation, ((((probably)))).

Also, we were going to invite Kalathras for out event, but that dude wants to charge us like 2000€ and we have like 300 people in our biggest event.Does anyone know any other """"""famous""" guy/girl to invite to a con-like event? I don't watch much YouTube other than tech videos and I left Twitter and other social shit ages ago. I should get an update on that shit.We could pay like 700€ to any of these, maybe.

>>9761647I don't like 8cho but he's pretty famous because he's otaku. Also videogamers and videogamers reviewers works well I think. Some cons makes a "mesa redonda" with different reviewers and vydia journalist and talk and discuss about what the public ask. It's really fun and interesting. Also you can invite some singer or dance group (not famous, just some who actually did a performance in other con). Most of the times they only need to pay the transport! They are not really famous but makes a good performance.

I Also I want to say cons should stop inviting famous cosplayers. It's more worth inviting some singer because they actually can make a performance. Famous cosplayers usually only sign prints and makes some Q&A but most of the people don't give a shit about this.

>>97616473000 euros.. what a hack>>9756334I'm only going because of my AA stand and because I want to visit some friends over there, desu I don't care that mutch about the con itself. At least for me, that's a common theme lately.

>>9765923I used to read her blog a long, long, loooooooong time ago, when she wore proper Lolita and wasn't full of shit. I wish she would stop with her "style experimenting", her overall drama and so on. She was ~16 at the time?

>>9765973Turning 18 did for her the exact opposite the law assumes it does. She seems crazier and crazier as time passes. Does anyone remember that joint yt channel? It was actually helpful. Such a pity it closed down.

Just saying as friendly advice, don't give her reasons to make even more drama, please. Sooner or later she'll see this and will start tweeting or posting on facebook (probably both) like crazy about how she's been posted again on 4chan. She feeds herself with drama, let's not give her drama, let her be a Menina if she wants (ai ke inventarse drama) and ignore her.

>>9761713Oh, yeah, we invited Aiiri Yami two years ago. I was pretty good, though I missed most of her show because I was working. We want something different this time and maybe next one invite another sinergias like her again, or both since it would be our 10th edition.About that mesa redonda, I remember we discussed something about it, it looks pretty interesting, but I don't know if our public could be enough to ask questions there or whatever. We will look into it.We are taking (or trying to) with some "small" youtubers, there is one that is about 20k. Also, I know a little Manuel Huedo, and he is getting kinda famous now, but he knows shit about anything outside being the typical student, maybe he could comment a little about our cosplays...