Comments on: Manny Ramirez is the Dodgers’ biggest creditorhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/27/manny-ramirez-is-the-dodgers-biggest-creditor/
Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball.Sun, 02 Aug 2015 21:03:34 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: nathanontheshorehttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/27/manny-ramirez-is-the-dodgers-biggest-creditor/comment-page-1/#comment-155217
Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:39:06 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=66784#comment-155217I think if Scott Boras is still getting a bite on Manny’s deferred payments, he’ll have a pit bull of an attorney representing him. As an unsecured creditor Manny comes last in line. Wouldn’t it be nice if he comes out with nothing? Could he sue Bud Selig as Commissioner for negligence for failing to properly police Frank McCourt? That would be so cool.
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Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:52:31 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=66784#comment-155097It appears that is precisely what you used to write that comment.
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Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:13:33 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=66784#comment-155059“I can’t wait to see Manny’s legal filings. I assume that they’ll be hand-written, in either crayon or with the burnt end of a pizza crust, on letterhead from hotel on the planet Mars. And he’ll send it via some sort of royal courier. Or by carrier pigeon.”

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Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:00:22 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=66784#comment-154982Obviously, this is awesome. The cherry on top of the larger cherry on top of this sundae is the misspelling of Chad Billingsley’s name — a missing “e.”
And the mention of Casey Blake’s actual first name, William.
And I think the world would be a better place if Rod Barajas went by Rodrigo.
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Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:44:28 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=66784#comment-154931I’ll bet that it won’t be Boras, but that he has a good bankrupcty attorney on speed dial. This isn’t his first rodeo.
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Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:39:58 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=66784#comment-154928Their 40th largest creditor is owed more than 70k… Wow…
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Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:30:17 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=66784#comment-154925I’d like to point out that Manny’s agent is Scott Boras. I would guess that Mr. Boras will represent Manny in bankruptcy court.
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Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:24:10 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=66784#comment-154918Hey Calcutta..if you had 1/1000 the talent Manny had during his career you would be able to bang more than they keyboard and your dick!
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Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:18:14 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=66784#comment-154911My guess would be that MLB has an agreement in the cba to guarantee the contracts of players in the event that a team should fail to make payroll or file for bankruptcy. Otherwise, teams would not be able to get credit and players contracts would become significantly more expensive for teams, as the teams would be seen as less sound investments and therefore the players would want greater insurances within the contract that they will actually be getting paid.

If teams were allowed to default on players contracts (or any debt obligations for that matter), it would be a significant determinant to the entire sport. That is most likely why MLB has to sign off on deals like the one Fox and the Dodgers have purposed.

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Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:14:16 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=66784#comment-154902Bankruptcy lawyers: is there a chance the creditors’ committee tries to recover from McCourt personally? It seems like the proposed Fox deal, for example, could be a fraudulent transfer on the part of the Dodgers since they would be giving up something of substantial value (their TV rights) but receiving less than full value in return since some of the money is going directly to McCourt personally. I know this deal never happened, but I suspect there are similar deals out there; deals in which McCourt transferred Dodgers’ assets and gave the proceeds directly to himself. I’d find it funny if McCourt ended up losing more by filing the bankruptcy than he would have if he had simply sold the team when it became apparent he could no longer run it successfully.
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Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:06:25 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=66784#comment-154893Biggest revelation in the filing? Kazuhisa Ishii’s email address.
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Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:50:31 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=66784#comment-154876I’m not a lawywr, but wouldn’t defaulting on a player contract (I know bankruptcy protects the Dodgers) void the contract? I realize things are not going to go there, but signing a contract with deferred payments, accepting the services (such as they were) and then not having the money to pay the deferred payments just seems like fraud to me. Don’t know all the legal things behind it, but I thought that the MLB and MLBPA required certain moneys to be maintained against deferred payments. Failure to maintain these moneys has to be some kind of failure that would come into consideration in regard to their filing bankruptcy.

As a non-Dodger baseball fan, I just want McCourt to go away (with nothing!).

Would be pretty surprised if Manny isn’t on the committee here (or, at least, wasn’t given the opportunity to join).

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Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:31:57 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=66784#comment-154855At least only 3 former players, 2 of which are retired, made the top ten!
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Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:27:26 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=66784#comment-154853Let’s be serious, Scott Boras is going to represent the unsecured creditors. And Frank McCourt will wish that he was still in his Boston parking lots.
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Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:25:27 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=66784#comment-154851WOW!!! I didn’t know it was this much. They were just talking about this on The Dan Patrick show. 20 million??????? That’s insane! He was only there a year and a half.
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Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:24:43 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=66784#comment-154849I, for one, would love to see an unsecured creditors’ committee that included Manny, Andruw Jones, Hiroki Kuroda, Rafael Furcal, Jerry Reinsdorf, a 20 year-old minor leaguer and Ted Lily. Don’t even bother hiring professionals, just let them handle the case.
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Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:17:41 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=66784#comment-154842I wouldn’t be surprised in this case if there was a committee representing the unsecured creditors, which I assume Manny and the other former players are. As a result, he probably wouldn’t have to file his own documents in this case. At some point, someone will probably file a proof of claim for him in the case, but sadly that won’t be too exciting.

Hopefully this business doesn’t distract Manny from his journey of self-discovery or whatever he is on currently. He’s had a rough life and needs the rest.