Outside of pointing out FirstTimer's personal attack of Brett05 , which particularly as a mod, doesn't likely lend a hand to grow a forum (yeah, we all get that Brett presents arguments of emotion more than statistical arguments) the gist of the rest of the post was changing who gets to vote for HoF. It needs to be mostly taken away from the guys who report and given to people who actually played/coached/GM'd the game, IMO. If those people vote in Baines and Smith, then who are we to argue with them?

Huh?

I called him "intellectually bankrupt" in a post. That's a fact. His entire argument was devoid of intellect and fact and based 100% on emotion.
The hell are you talking about?

It needs to be mostly taken away from the guys who report and given to people who actually played/coached/GM'd the game, IMO. If those people vote in Baines and Smith, then who are we to argue with them?

Probably the most inopportune moment to suggest this, considering the reporters saw Baines as having no HOF case, while the players/managers just elected Baines.

I had a roommate in college (not Lefty) who thought Rebecca Lobo was attractive. He was also obsessed with Tabitha Soren, who while being much better looking than Rebecca Lobo, wasn't really all that great either. Imagine a year of your college life being stuck watching women's basketball and MTV News.

I had a roommate in college (not Lefty) who thought Rebecca Lobo was attractive. He was also obsessed with Tabitha Soren, who while being much better looking than Rebecca Lobo, wasn't really all that great either. Imagine a year of your college life being stuck watching women's basketball and MTV News.

On relatable issue I ever came across was I had a friend who thought the "girl in Hanson was hot". We had to inform him it was the middle brother of the three.

It's actually a comment directed at the person who made the post. When you say "You're intellectually bankrupt", that's a personal attack directed to the poster, not the post. Of course the post was bad. Congratulations on winning the internet.

It's actually a comment directed at the person who made the post. When you say "You're intellectually bankrupt", that's a personal attack directed to the poster, not the post. Of course the post was bad. Congratulations on winning the internet.

No. It's directed at the logic or reasoning that person used to make the post.

No. It's directed at the logic or reasoning that person used to make the post.

"You're intellectually bankrupt." Outside of the cute words it translates to "you're stupid" or "you have no brains, as usual". Your post wasn't directed at his logic ir reasoning. It's strictly a personal attack.

The person who is self-pwning is you. Your posts indicate you struggle to admit when you are wrong. As for this "caping" comment you keep making, it's an intellectually bankrupt argument not too dissimilar from someone calling a person a racist just because they want better border enforcement.

Edgar Martinez became a full time DH in 1995. He retired three years after Baines in 2004.

From 1995-2001 Edgar did the following:
5X All Star
5x DH of the Year Award
3x Silver Slugger
Lead League in OBP 3x
1x Batting Title
1x Lead League in RBI's
1x Lead league in OPS
1x Led League in Runs
1x Lead League in Doubles
1x Lead League in OPS+
Finished 3rd in the MVP voting in 1995, 6th in 2000.
Slashed: .329/.446/.574 (OPS of 1.020' OPS+ 164)

Edgar Martinez was easily better and more accomplished than Baines when Baines retired.

There is no discussion.

After Baines retired Martinez put up three more seasons of regression numbers. He was meh. He retired then they immediately named the DH award after him. Stop making it seem like Martinez played for another 5 seasons at an elite level to "pass" Baines after Baines retired. He didn't.

As for this "caping" comment you keep making, it's an intellectually bankrupt argument not too dissimilar from someone calling a person a racist just because they want better border enforcement.

This is a terrible analogy. You're "caping" for brett by getting pissy over one line in a 26 line post where he gets smacked around by stats after making a stupid post/point and gets called on it. I literally used FACTS and STATS to prove he's intellectually bankrupt. It's not some virtue signalling issue where it's my opinion about someones opinion on race based on their opinion on border enforcement.