Comments on: McCoy Says He’ll Wait Patiently For His Jackpothttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2010/07/mccoy-says-hell-wait-for-his-jackpot/
The most popular Buccaneers blog on earth. Edgy analysis, and 24/7 Bucs football news.Fri, 09 Dec 2016 15:23:10 +0000hourly1https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6.1By: k_bassukahttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2010/07/mccoy-says-hell-wait-for-his-jackpot/#comment-66473
Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:43:19 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=31861#comment-66473He lit up the combine, no questions about it that doesnt mean he is a good football player. The guy had 2 of the top WR(Bowe and LaFell) in college, a cannon for an arm and still the team relied on FB/HB Hester, RB Scott and RB Williams

The guy with the strongest arm ever didn’t connect a pass over 40 yards against the btter defenses he faced. Can u point out a game there and say wow he did that to that team? Not even against weak teams.

Anyway lets not make this about him, he clearly was playing out of position he should’ve been an OL. LOL!

]]>By: McBuchttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2010/07/mccoy-says-hell-wait-for-his-jackpot/#comment-66274
Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:56:39 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=31861#comment-66274Sorry about the typos.
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Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:55:56 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=31861#comment-66273k-bassuka…I am not sure if you are talking about the rught guy. JaMarcus Russell had a prety good college QB. I think LSU only lost 3 games in 2 seasons with him as the starter. He also impressed mant people at the combine. In 2006 I believe he was ranked 2nd in the SEC, which is pretty good. The scouts did their job, JaMarcus Russell let them down.
]]>By: RahDomDaBesthttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2010/07/mccoy-says-hell-wait-for-his-jackpot/#comment-66270
Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:43:24 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=31861#comment-66270First, debating on what McCoy gets will be within a tight bandwidth… and the dominoes start to fall once Bradford signs… after that, the Bucs will have 2 choices… pay him or ruin the off-season by playing games trying to save a small percentage of what he will get paid.

One thing that bothers me… is this McCoy is starting to remind me of LBJ with his personality… on the surface it may seem fun… but I don’t know… he may end up being a self-centered, self-absorbed me-shawn before it’s all said and done with. Anyone else notice this?

]]>By: k_bassukahttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2010/07/mccoy-says-hell-wait-for-his-jackpot/#comment-66213
Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:34:00 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=31861#comment-66213I know that the system that we run right now is not perfect and has many flaws, but the reality is that those bad contracts like the latest to JaMarcus Russell it was more about poor scouting than a player getting played and shutting it down because of it. Russell wasn’t the best player on his team throughout the season, had one good game in which he showed a great arm now all of the sudden he can play. A good scout would ask to themselves what happened in the other 10-11 games, why a talented player like that didn’t tear up college ball? If they would’ve done their job and not follow the experts over @ BSPN they would’ve stay away from him.

I really think that the big problem is the restricted FA and franchise tags. I can see where the franchise tag helps a team and a player I could live with it. The league could offer less money to rookies (not too little due to the amount of season and career ending/changing injuries they are susceptible to) and if they want to keep a player like let’s say Penn, they would have to offer at least the same as what the top rookie OT made on the previous year draft (should be a 3 year deal) I think that will keep it fair.

Some of these guys want to play hard, and when you work better than most of the guys @ your job and they get paid way more than you with better job security than you is just not fair.

He’s being used by the players association and his agent. It’s a “principle” issue and unfortunately Donald could be standing in the cold this year.

I guess we’ll know in 12.25 days !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then instead of arguing about this silly stuff we can all argue about REAL stuff like FOOTBALL.

And NO I’m NOT talking FIFA 🙁

]]>By: BigMacAttackhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2010/07/mccoy-says-hell-wait-for-his-jackpot/#comment-66106
Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:15:26 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=31861#comment-66106Yea, with all the uncertainty, a bird in the hand… = Donald Penn should sign his tender and take what he can get while it’s there.
]]>By: Mr. Luckyhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2010/07/mccoy-says-hell-wait-for-his-jackpot/#comment-66102
Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:01:48 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=31861#comment-66102Football prices are going the way of the real estate market in the early 2000’s.

There was a real estate bubble – everyone KNEW it but heck if you can make some money who cares right?

Same with ticket prices and players salaries.

What popped the real estate market?

What’s gonna pop the football market? The television contracts. next time around all the networks hold the line and pfffffffffffff

]]>By: BigMacAttackhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2010/07/mccoy-says-hell-wait-for-his-jackpot/#comment-66025
Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:54:33 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=31861#comment-66025I’m just glad it isn’t my money or that I have to be in Dominick’s place. It is a difficult time to be in an already tough job. I hope the Rams squeeze Bradford and set a new precedent that all the other teams follow. There seems to be way to much disparity from the highest and lowest paid players. It just appears that no one involved really knows how to fix it and there doesn’t appear to be any sense of urgency either. This could alienate many fans, and if a lockout occurs and all the fans are gone, it may be more difficult to bring them all back league wide. I think both the Players and the Owners are letting greed set them up for a terrible fall. I love football, but I love hunting, fishing, jetskiing, boating, and flying just as much. If they take away my NFL, I’ll find something else to do. At least we’ll still have College Football on T,F, Saturdays. And the Lightning are sure to be on the right track.
]]>By: sensiblefanhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2010/07/mccoy-says-hell-wait-for-his-jackpot/#comment-65984
Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:53:08 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=31861#comment-65984@ Joe

” If they come in with guaranteed money for three years, that should be just fine.”

Do you mean guaranteed contracts for JUST the rookies or for the entire league? If it’s just the rookies, I can see that as an interesting compromise between the PA and the League. If we’re talking about guaranteed contracts for the entire player population, I think there’s no way in H-E-Double hockey sticks the owners are EVER going to go for that.

]]>By: Mr. Luckyhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2010/07/mccoy-says-hell-wait-for-his-jackpot/#comment-65980
Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:51:40 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=31861#comment-65980The other thing that the 2010 rookies have to realize is this, there may be no 2011 season.

So listen to your agents and hold out in 2010, then when 2011 gets cancelled you’ll not only have a rookie cap in 2012 but you’ll be competing with college kids from 2010 & 2011.

Look, they made the transition just fine in the NBA. Guys were making guaranteed gazillions and then they pulled the rug out. The beautiful thing is the soon-to-be rookies have no leg to stand on, because they’re not in the league and their contract is still a Lotto ticket. …

And to bassuka who wrote: “2. Too many short expectancy positions. Most of them won’t pay you big money after the age of 29. That means that if you came in at age 24 did the “probe it” contract for 3 years put you at 27 before you sign a big money contract and more likely your only big money contract. Unlike the NBA where players can come in at a much younger age and play at their peak for much longer than the NFL.”

A very small percentage of guys enter the league at 24. Most are 22 or 23. If they come in with guaranteed money for three years, that should be just fine. …They can become restricted free agents and 25/26 and many will probably re-up early to whatever the NFL determines is the next extension (probably 2 years) before they become unrestricted. …It’ll work just fine.

]]>By: RustyRhinohttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2010/07/mccoy-says-hell-wait-for-his-jackpot/#comment-65971
Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:11:40 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=31861#comment-65971It is very hard for a “kid” right out of college who has never had an opportunity to win the lottery to be happy with only getting a measly 1, 2, 3 million dollar contract, when for years he has watched the other first round rookies get all them Benjamin’s.

When the new CBA is agreed with, and the pay scale is adjusted. We shall see a difference in the way teams are built. The way i see it it will not make multi multi multi millionaires of unproven players, they will not like this. They will get creative in how the salary is paid out, maybe you start out with $x contract for two years and after your third season you get a jump in pay to $XX. If and i say if you show that you are on the road to being a good player.

The agents are worried sick i would think, it was not the college “kids” who demanded the 4, 7, 10, 20, 40 million dollar contracts or guaranteed bonuses, ultimately it is the agents representing these rookies. These agents are worried and i can see why they are worried. They get how much of a players yearly salary? How much of a percentage of that guaranteed signing bonus??
Like say $30,000,000.00 = roughly $9,000,000.00 at 1/3 of what the signing bonus is not to mention 1/3 of the the yearly salary. I wonder if the agents are not working hard to keep some “sensibility” when it comes to the “new” CBA.
If i’m in their shoes i know i would be. What if the max of a guaranteed bonus is only $10,000,000.00 those agent would go ballistic.

]]>By: Robhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2010/07/mccoy-says-hell-wait-for-his-jackpot/#comment-65958
Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:15:05 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=31861#comment-65958I would also mention the NHL rookie contract system as well. It puts far more of a fire under the asses of the incoming rookies to play well and work hard after they get drafted so they can really get paid.

You sort of have to wonder what would have happened had that sort of system been implemented a few years back when JaMarcus Russell came out. Would his work ethic actually be visible so he would have gotten paid, or would that really make a difference to a guy like that?

@k_bassuka. I have to respectfully disagree with your first point. For quarterbacks in particular, one would imagine, even if they ride the pine for their first 3 years and their contract is up, they’d get a decent paycheck somewhere. Everyone is always looking for a QB (just about), so I would think that X QB would get some team to pay a good amount for his services. I think your point definitely works with other positions, but they are usually thrust into playing time right away and are either shown as quality players or wash-outs over that initial 3 year period.

But you did really put it well with number 4. One would really hope with the extra money in-tow that the league would put a retirement fund into motion. Really have to feel for those guys who didn’t get paid the big bucks and sacrificed their bodies.

As for the NCAA part, I agree. You do get those multi-sport athletes every now and again. And those are the breaks to getting the rookie salaries down. Gotta take the good with the bad I suppose.

There’s always good and bad to take away from this, but one would think this would get those veterans who are generally left out in the cold in favor of the rookies and younger, mostly unproven guys paid significantly better. At least that’s the prevailing thought…

Show up for training camp on day 1 – REGARDLESS of your contract situation, let your agent deal with Dominik.

That will get me (fans) on your side and it worth lots of goodwill

]]>By: Mr. Luckyhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2010/07/mccoy-says-hell-wait-for-his-jackpot/#comment-65956
Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:10:04 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=31861#comment-65956As for the original post – play all the projected starters first and hard. they’re young and they can take it right?

Let’s be honest this isn’t Freeman’s sophomore year – it’s really his first full rookie year. he needs reps…reps…reps…