You know it’s bad when Mike Tirico, one of the nicest guys in sports, is taking multiple shots at you during at game. That two minute drill was just baaaaaaaad. Not even sure Hoke had a two minute drill go that poorly.

Mike is a ND lackey at this point and sounded pathetic at times during that broadcast. I get that it’s weirdo ND time on NBC but it’s a bit much when flutie has to step away from the booth because they gave Michigan a first down after a review.

What's the difference? Its the same result with every coach. The team gets progressively worse until the team quits on the staff. I never thought it could come to this. I stopped watching the Lions cold turkey basically for the same reason.

That’s what I kept thinking about in the second half yesterday: why do I keep caring about this? I quit watching the Lions years ago because it just wasn’t fun. Same with the Pistons. I’m pretty much there with Michigan. There are plenty of better ways to enjoy a Saturday because I’ve seen this same movie several times.

Agree. What does he bring anymore? Coaching mistakes last night: DPJ catches a punt inside the 5. We run time off the clock at the end of a quarter when we could’ve run a play...you only get so many opportunities to run plays, and the time management was again horrible.

I dont even even know what to think anymore. Oh well, at least we’ll get to hear and see all the hype next week telling us “WE ARE MICHIGAN”...

Plus if we’re willing to spend 7million+ for this, we can certainly throw that bag at whichever coach we decided we wanted, like Matt Campbell or something. All hypothetical but it’s not impossible to find someone better than what we’re watching right now.

Many coaches are doing better with less talent and more resources. I still haven't fully lost faith in Harbaugh because I used to be a fan, but shit, it's hard to justify this. Who would've thought after 4 years we still can't run the ball or keep a quarterback upright.

Honest Question here. Why do you think UM could not get a better coach? There are 8 million reasons as to why we could. For that $ one would think better coaoches would come out of the woodwork. For that matter I would be willing to bet UM already has a better HC on staff. Looking at you Don Brown.

Not sure I would call Patterson his "hand picked QB" - the kid was playing his first game on a new team under a new-ish system (and a night road game in hostile territory to boot). About the same as Ruddock's first start. I was rather pleased with the performance of the QB that Harbaugh actually did hand pick and groom - McCaffrey. That kid will be good very soon if the OL doesn't get him hurt.

QB play last night was pretty good. Far better than anything last year. The thing that just kills the offense is the tackle situation. That’s been a problem since he’s been here and nothing at all has been done to fix it. Until that gets fixed the ceiling for this offense and teams is mediocre. Because good teams with an above average DL are just going to destroy their offensive line.

He was one tackle. You need two. And he went down years ago and they haven't been able to find a solid option for either tackle spot since then. And the current best options to do so are once again a transfer from the DL and some super raw true freshman. So this isn't an issue that is getting fixed this year or next year.

Given the makeup of the OL, the absolute earliest Michigan might have a good OL is 2020. And even then, they are likely going to have true juniors or redshirt sophomores playing tackle. Which still isn't good.

The problem is his pass play designs is taking for 4 to 5 seconds to develop giving the d line enough time to get to our slower qbs. While these new offenses is throwing the ball within 3 seconds. If it not there in 3 secs the qb is taking off

I tend to agree with all of it. It’s his offense and his issue at tackle he hasn’t been able to fix. For all the fire Pep and fire Drevno folks, this is Harbaugh’s offense. Always has been and always will be. The only reason they looked good under Fisch is because that was the best situation at tackle.

Add in the complete inability for this team to look even remotely prepared for big games and their penchant for shooting themselves in the foot and you have a whole host of issues that point back to him.

It does tend to feel like the beginning of the end, because this is surely going to be another 8-9 win season.

The thing that shocks me the most is how undisciplined Harbaugh's Michigan teams have been. There have been an unacceptably high number of errors and penalties. At first I thought it was bad luck, like with the punt drop against MSU, but now it's clear that a systemic thing. I'm tired of dropped punts, dropped field goals, fumbled hand offs to tight ends, penalties that negate a 3rd down stop, and piss poor clock management. It astonishes me how we find new and unique ways to kill momentum and fuck ourselves.

This is year four of playing out with absolutely no improvement on offense. 2015 against Utah, while Michigan lost, everyone saw that there were some positives to build upon. And indeed they did. Maybe my bar is set too high, but yesterday I saw nothing positive upon which to build to give us even a glimmer of hope.

Uh, I think after ten plus years it has been enough time. Don't let the name recognition of Harbaugh give this coach a free pass. Insert the names Hoke or RR and they didn't get that luxury. The prodigal son has not and looks like will not deliver.

Yaup that’s all we got right now. Hope it gets better, hope that this game turns out to be “reasonable” loss becuae ND wins a lot this year, hope the players use this game and learn to not make dumb fuckin undisciplined mistakes, It’s jusy what is

Waking up this morning i was way more upset but what can you do, just going to wait and see how they respond.

Teddy Greenstein of the Chicago Tribune, who is not talentless or wholly unreasonable, but seems at least mildly obsessed with Harbaugh and Michigan, took a few shots (only some deserved) a short time ago.

Here's hoping that things can turn around, but you have to wonder, at some point, if Harbaugh's ceiling is 8/9 win teams we should fire him and hire one of the many coaches who can deliver those middling results for half of his outlandish price.

Most overpaid and overrated staff in the United States.

This feels like an 8 win season with 3 rivalry losses. I guess you give him one more chance in 2019 with the favorable schedule? But is anything less than a Big Ten Championship next year, after what could potentially be putrid 2017 and 2018 seasons, acceptable? For this level of salary?

Sets up 2019 to be a big year for him then. Because at some point either during or prior to the 2020 season they are going to have to decide wether or not they want to extend his contract. Because you can't have a coach out there with just one year left on his deal. That's recruiting poison.

The offense in this game, from the play calling to the execution, was disgusting. The offensive line is offensive to watch. Jon Runyan, Jr is as bad a LT as has played at Michigan since I began watching in the early 70s. The entirety of the OL is garbage. The recruiting needed to fix the issues the offense has has been pathetic. This does feel like the Hoke era where we continually get worse until theres no choice but to start again. My faith in Harbaugh has been shattered.

I said it in UMBIG11 dribble he posted and I’ll say it again, Ruyan is awful he was not good against South Carolina and the line on the left should be Bredeson at LT, Spanniels(sp) or Ruiz at guard/center.