No begging necessary for giving an opinion. You are entitled to it! The G20 is hundreds less in price, and, more than double the capacity, and, for those reasons, alone, I'll take the G20. Not sure what you mean by better. More expensive? I guess you have me there. More durable? Not real sure the 610 would win that area. Accuracy? Not sure which would win in that either. The G20 is my choice for whitetail hunting and shoots plenty accurate for my needs. Although I will admit the 610 is on my wish list, and is being sought after. Again just my opinion.

Well I do own, and have owned several of the guns on your list and I do know the difference between a pocket auto and a full sized auto (and therefore know you can't compare a Mini-Cooper to a 3/4 ton pickup). I also know that just throwing out a band name like "Sig" does not make a decent comparison of similar models. By the way, on that issue, I got rid of a Sig 228 because the comparative CZ model was not only ergonomically better 9which, granted is a preference) but also more accurate from the bench with several brands of ammo. Interestingly I did use the money from the sale to fund a completely different Sig model which I like, but that just shows you the foolishness of simply throwing out a brand name.

(Odd note there. Sig produces a few models that are quite different in many respects, yet in you experience you lump them all together. OTOH you enumerate the Glocks and they only differ in size, Hmmmm)

Having lots of experience with Highpowers and CZs I do not have any qualms about stating, for a fact, that the CZs have been every bit as reliable and significantly more accurate. I have no problem in admitting that my CZ 75, is more comfortable to shoot and more accurate off hand than either of my highpowers.

In the world of opinion, I don't find the Beretta 92 to be as accurate as a CZ, and, in fact prefer the Taurus rendition because of the safety so I choose to keep that one. Not to merely pick on the design, but haven't you ever heard someone mention that, all the way around (grip included), the Beretta is a bit big for the round?

The Ruger DA/SA models are underrated underdogs to be sure and great values and in my experience utterly reliable but they lack the accuracy and you will note it took a few tries for the ergonomics to pick up.

The very fact that you did not include the any second or third generation S&W 9mms on your list gives room for doubt as to your qualifications as well.

There are also other 9mms that could compete quite well with your list that you obviously missed, from lack of experience?

Well I do own, and have owned several of the guns on your list and I do know the difference between a pocket auto and a full sized auto (and therefore know you can't compare a Mini-Cooper to a 3/4 ton pickup). I also know that just throwing out a band name like "Sig" does not make a decent comparison of similar models. By the way, on that issue, I got rid of a Sig 228 because the comparative CZ model was not only ergonomically better 9which, granted is a preference) but also more accurate from the bench with several brands of ammo. Interestingly I did use the money from the sale to fund a completely different Sig model which I like, but that just shows you the foolishness of simply throwing out a brand name.

(Odd note there. Sig produces a few models that are quite different in many respects, yet in you experience you lump them all together. OTOH you enumerate the Glocks and they only differ in size, Hmmmm)

Having lots of experience with Highpowers and CZs I do not have any qualms about stating, for a fact, that the CZs have been every bit as reliable and significantly more accurate. I have no problem in admitting that my CZ 75, is more comfortable to shoot and more accurate off hand than either of my highpowers.

In the world of opinion, I don't find the Beretta 92 to be as accurate as a CZ, and, in fact prefer the Taurus rendition because of the safety so I choose to keep that one. Not to merely pick on the design, but haven't you ever heard someone mention that, all the way around (grip included), the Beretta is a bit big for the round?

The Ruger DA/SA models are underrated underdogs to be sure and great values and in my experience utterly reliable but they lack the accuracy and you will note it took a few tries for the ergonomics to pick up.

The very fact that you did not include the any second or third generation S&W 9mms on your list gives room for doubt as to your qualifications as well.

There are also other 9mms that could compete quite well with your list that you obviously missed, from lack of experience?

Shall I continue?

First off WOW! Still not positive of which you are, and to what level authority you have. was hoping this wasn't just a richard skull moment, on your part, but that's out the window.

Never claimed having any qualifications, just stating my opinion on the matter, and you are correct the smith lineup, was not mentioned, because, as you must have read, the list I made up, are what came to mind at the time. If it's important for you to continue your extensive writings of your vast knowledge, please answer the simple question if you are the, authority, or an, authority. Then again, it seems you are just stating an opinion on 9MM's and how you rank them.

I like my G20sf but never shoot it. I've got a trade offer for a CZ 75B ( test fire in 96). With night sights (probably dim by now) plus $50. Would you make the trade? The 10mm is awesome. So I'm a little reluctant to get rid of it.

It's pretty simple really take any 9mm pistol in the CZ's price range and shoot it, then shoot the CZ, and you'll see that they are simply the best 9mm in that price range.
I never quite got this whole 10mm thing anyway. It would seem to me that if I can't stop a threat with a 9mm, or blow the inners out whatever Im shooting at with a 45 caliber hollow point out of a 1911. I'm in the wrong area to begin with, and should have brought one of my rifles or shotguns.