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I wasn't meaning to take away from your hard work, no doubt you've worked hard for your gains! I was just saying I hear too often people gaining 40 pounds quickly and saying its all muscle.

Really? Without gear? Ok..

I'm not trying to disappoint or disrespect you would be suprised how much fat you can gain and how easily your body gains fat. I went down the same path thinking I was gaining "all muscle" until I finally stopped with the bro science and noticed my abs disappearing and turning into a fat POS, not saying you are there at all, luckily I stopped myself before I got there. For average men, 1 inch gain in the waist is about 5 pounds of fat gained, my waist size went up 3 inches, doesn't seem like much but 10-15 pounds of fat is a lot, so much for those 40pounds of lean muscle.. Again I'm not doubting your gains, keep up the good work, just remember to not focus so much on the scale, it can really mess with your head. it's all about how you want to look and feel!

My waistline has gone up about an inch. I can believe that would equate to about 5 pounds.

Let's consider the things you have in your corner:
- You started at basically a child's weight - a little bit of essential tissue wrapped over a skeleton and organs. Most of the time you hear about someone's first-year gains, they're not starting 138lbs. This isn't to criticize you, but to lead into the next point...
- Or, if they are, they are not diving right into a legitimate lifting and nutrition routine. You seem to have dived right in with a good understanding of how to lift and what to eat - kudos for that. Most people flop around in ignorance for a few years before getting serious.

Personally, I started at about 155lbs before my senior year of HS and ended senior year at a very lean 145lbs. I also had no earthly idea what I was doing. Had I started with any meaningful understanding of nutrition or lifting, I'm sure I would've gained a lot more muscle (not 40lbs of it, but more than I actually gained.)

And then there's the immeasurable aspect of genetics. Perhaps you have genes that are well suited to carrying lean mass. If you're able to do this without being miserable, give thought to competition (natural or untested, whichever is appropriate.)

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Let's consider the things you have in your corner:
- You started at basically a child's weight - a little bit of essential tissue wrapped over a skeleton and organs. Most of the time you hear about someone's first-year gains, they're not starting 138lbs. This isn't to criticize you, but to lead into the next point...
- Or, if they are, they are not diving right into a legitimate lifting and nutrition routine. You seem to have dived right in with a good understanding of how to lift and what to eat - kudos for that. Most people flop around in ignorance for a few years before getting serious.

Personally, I started at about 155lbs before my senior year of HS and ended senior year at a very lean 145lbs. I also had no earthly idea what I was doing. Had I started with any meaningful understanding of nutrition or lifting, I'm sure I would've gained a lot more muscle (not 40lbs of it, but more than I actually gained.)

And then there's the immeasurable aspect of genetics. Perhaps you have genes that are well suited to carrying lean mass. If you're able to do this without being miserable, give thought to competition (natural or untested, whichever is appropriate.)

My little brother has experienced gains like yours. He graduated basic training at 146lb, an he's active duty so all he does it his job for the Air Force and lift. It's about a year and a half later and he just broke 196lb, lean as hell. Its amazing what you can be capable if you just put your entire mind set towards it.

The only problem is if you see gains like that and you're natural, most people will just assume you've done steroids.

Let's consider the things you have in your corner:
- You started at basically a child's weight - a little bit of essential tissue wrapped over a skeleton and organs. Most of the time you hear about someone's first-year gains, they're not starting 138lbs. This isn't to criticize you, but to lead into the next point...
- Or, if they are, they are not diving right into a legitimate lifting and nutrition routine. You seem to have dived right in with a good understanding of how to lift and what to eat - kudos for that. Most people flop around in ignorance for a few years before getting serious.

Personally, I started at about 155lbs before my senior year of HS and ended senior year at a very lean 145lbs. I also had no earthly idea what I was doing. Had I started with any meaningful understanding of nutrition or lifting, I'm sure I would've gained a lot more muscle (not 40lbs of it, but more than I actually gained.)

And then there's the immeasurable aspect of genetics. Perhaps you have genes that are well suited to carrying lean mass. If you're able to do this without being miserable, give thought to competition (natural or untested, whichever is appropriate.)

Very well put. Thanks for the insight. I've been starting to consider competing but i can't see the point. I'm not going to become mr olympia, and i doubt it would be financially rewarding on an amateur level. I really just enjoy getting stronger, looking good naked and motivating/helping others.

My little brother has experienced gains like yours. He graduated basic training at 146lb, an he's active duty so all he does it his job for the Air Force and lift. It's about a year and a half later and he just broke 196lb, lean as hell. Its amazing what you can be capable if you just put your entire mind set towards it.

The only problem is if you see gains like that and you're natural, most people will just assume you've done steroids.

Really I'd be happy at like 180-190ish very lean, but even with what I'm at now I've already been getting some steroid accusations. I can't imagine what it'll be like if i get to my goal.

The only problem is if you see gains like that and you're natural, most people will just assume you've done steroids.

Love those people! Been dealing with them ever since I changed my physique rapidly. They talk down on you bcuz you've achieved something that they could not... Problem is, if they were educated and had some real world experience it's pretty easy to tell a steroid physique apart from a natural one.

I won't lie, I did dabble with a 4 week cycle of "pro hormones" back when I was only concerned with size. If you're not familiar with the term they're basically over the counter steroids. And very dangerous to the liver. I did put on 20lbs in that month! But lost 15 of it when I stopped. Lmao. Such a waste.

He really hasn't taken a good picture of himself in forever but yeah I see what you mean. I'm just takin a few pictures from his Instagram, but when you posted the thread all I could think of was him. He's definitely my inspiration

Lol damn I'm going to have to cite his whole Instagram for this. He's got a picture of the scale from last week a hair over 196. I apologize for the crappy ass pictures but I assure you I nor he are stretching any truth. I'm on my way to crush back day right now so when I'm back ill see what I can do