NRA Chief Calls For National Database Of The Mentally Ill And Says: If You Want To Call Me Crazy, Then Call Me Crazyhttp://www.businessinsider.com/nra-wayne-lapierre-meet-the-press-gun-control-conference-sandy-hook-newtown-ct-shooting-2012-12/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Thu, 17 Aug 2017 23:30:48 -0400Brett LoGiuratohttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/50db782aecad042432000012JohnnyWed, 26 Dec 2012 17:20:26 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50db782aecad042432000012
And the Stephen King novel and movie Carrie was basically about an abused and mentally ill High School adolescent student that ended up murdering everyone that she viewed as tormentors at the high school and at the Prom.
Stephen King crawled his way out of poverty with that sick and unholy novel.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50db702aeab8eada02000022JohnnyWed, 26 Dec 2012 16:46:18 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50db702aeab8eada02000022
Damn spittle on the right lip. Why didn't someone off camera signal Wayne to lick his lips or something?
If this interview was on radio one would never see it :)
But Gregory raised a good point or two, and seemed polite and backpeddling at the end.
My guess is that bans on ammo clips might help, but that there are so many on the black market anyway it will be hard to point to banning them as a cure all.
Wayne has an excellent point about the violent video games, and about how the violent movies are also a huge moneymaking industry, and so LaPierre is only pointing out the hypocrisy of a society that entertains people with violence and then says violence is wrong while at the same time making enormous profits.
Some of those video games are really graphically violent, and I don't know how anyone that makes money from the production and marketing of them can sleep at night.
Woody Harrelson has contributed to this culture of violence, as has Clint Eastwood.
What becomes problematic is where the lines of good guy and bad guy are crossed.
Then there are the Godfather Movies and the literary figures like Stephen King that turn monstrosity as entertainment into personal fortunes.
The novel: "It" by Stephen King is basically about violence against children by a fanciful clown from hell.
And Stephen King is rich from it and also from the Shining that was about a father trying to murder his wife and son.
Big business and big money.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d8e9c4eab8eaf32200001bisaias_capistranoMon, 24 Dec 2012 18:48:20 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d8e9c4eab8eaf32200001b
Ok, some people on here are a little extreme. On both sides. The ban never worked before. See columbine. High cap mag bans, well that's silly. You tell me that I can't own any mags that hold more than ten rounds, my response is to own many mags. A ban will only keep them out of law abidding citizens hands, not criminal hands. The ban just won't work.
Now, before you all get up in arms thinking I'm an extreme right wing psycho, I do believe in making it much harder to purchase a firearm. I believe your mental state should be a factor. This includes annual checkups. I believe the background check should be harder to pass.
At the end of the day, a firearm is nothing more than a tool. If a person wants to kill and a gun isn't available, there are home made bombs, baseball bats, cars, you name it and it can probably be used to kill. It's not the fault of the tool for how it is used. If you ban assault weapons, only criminals will have them. Please explain to me how exactly that works. I will go ahead and tell you, it doesn't.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d8bed4eab8ea624600001ecrazzeeedaveMon, 24 Dec 2012 15:45:08 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d8bed4eab8ea624600001e
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neitherhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d89cbe6bb3f7f54700000dkadMon, 24 Dec 2012 13:19:42 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d89cbe6bb3f7f54700000d
There's also security in almost every school, Columbine not only had 2 armed police assigned to the school, they had a security patrol and there was a SWAT team was at VA Tech. There's also the Army base in TX -- no guns there right? More guns are not the answer. I'm not against armed guards at schools -- I'm just for a more broad thinking for solutions.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d89b4169bedd6064000029kadMon, 24 Dec 2012 13:13:21 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d89b4169bedd6064000029
Not the same as the government choosing who is "sane" enough to get a gun license and who is to crazy. An American on anti-depressants and who has not committed any crime, being labeled to crazy by their government, looses their second amendment rights. I'm not even a gun advocate and frankly I'd be fine if we repealed the second amendment and I realize this is insane talk by the NRA. I say he is insane and should be the first American to loose his rights to a gun.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d819306bb3f73b4f000024boosbazaarMon, 24 Dec 2012 03:58:24 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d819306bb3f73b4f000024
Forget something concert like Mental Health. I bet you right now there are Corporate Security Contractor and affiliated industry Corporate Contractors salivating at the potential prospect of a Multibillion Dollar contract from the Federal Government to so-call protection of the schools,( not solving anything just profiting off eternal maintenance) at the expense of 20 children live; they well profit off anything!.
Just wait and see; I can see this bull shit in the cards and being planned. Their probably working with their lobbyist right nowhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d8060569bedd0e7e000021KENNY ZMon, 24 Dec 2012 02:36:37 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d8060569bedd0e7e000021
If TRANSPONDERS are mandatory in any new gun,lets say any gun built as of 2014 I am talking about a gun that can only be fired if the shooter is wearing the bracelet that will allow a signal to be sent to the gun's firing mechanism,,,We have MICRO TECHNOLOGY,, let's use it ,,,The possibilities are endless WE may also be able to track who the gun is registered to and it's location..ALL ON A MICRO CHIP,,,,Am I the only one who see;s this as a reality?
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If TRANSPONDERS are mandatory in any new gun,lets say any gun built as of 2014 I am talking about a gun that can only be fired if the shooter is wearing the bracelet that will allow a signal to be sent to the gun's firing mechanism,,,We have MICRO TECHNOLOGY,, let's use it ,,,The possibilities are endless WE may also be able to track who the gun is registered to and it's location..ALL ON A MICRO CHIP,,,,Am I the only one who see;s this as a reality?
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If TRANSPONDERS are mandatory in any new gun,lets say any gun built as of 2014 I am talking about a gun that can only be fired if the shooter is wearing the bracelet that will allow a signal to be sent to the gun's firing mechanism,,,We have MICRO TECHNOLOGY,, let's use it ,,,The possibilities are endless WE may also be able to track who the gun is registered to and it's location..ALL ON A MICRO CHIP,,,,Am I the only one who see;s this as a reality?
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If TRANSPONDERS are mandatory in any new gun,lets say any gun built as of 2014 I am talking about a gun that can only be fired if the shooter is wearing the bracelet that will allow a signal to be sent to the gun's firing mechanism,,,We have MICRO TECHNOLOGY,, let's use it ,,,The possibilities are endless WE may also be able to track who the gun is registered to and it's location..ALL ON A MICRO CHIP,,,,Am I the only one who see;s this as a reality?
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If TRANSPONDERS are mandatory in any new gun,lets say any gun built as of 2014 I am talking about a gun that can only be fired if the shooter is wearing the bracelet that will allow a signal to be sent to the gun's firing mechanism,,,We have MICRO TECHNOLOGY,, let's use it ,,,The possibilities are endless WE may also be able to track who the gun is registered to and it's location..ALL ON A MICRO CHIP,,,,Am I the only one who see;s this as a reality?
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If TRANSPONDERS are mandatory in any new gun,lets say any gun built as of 2014 I am talking about a gun that can only be fired if the shooter is wearing the bracelet that will allow a signal to be sent to the gun's firing mechanism,,,We have MICRO TECHNOLOGY,, let's use it ,,,The possibilities are endless WE may also be able to track who the gun is registered to and it's location..ALL ON A MICRO CHIP,,,,Am I the only one who see;s this as a reality?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d800bdeab8ea4034000002ken zMon, 24 Dec 2012 02:14:05 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d800bdeab8ea4034000002
all new guns manufactured have a TRANSPONDER signaled to a bracelet worn by the registered userhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7f2cceab8ea2e0b00001bMarykate ClarkMon, 24 Dec 2012 01:14:36 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7f2cceab8ea2e0b00001b
MISDIRECTION is clearly the NRA's theme and only plan.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7f23069bedd1256000008Marykate ClarkMon, 24 Dec 2012 01:12:00 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7f23069bedd1256000008
Start with the NRA membership roster.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7e35d6bb3f7426b00000bYour MomMon, 24 Dec 2012 00:08:45 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7e35d6bb3f7426b00000b
Doubled down? He has put forth the only sane, the only viable, option. Ban everything isn't an option, barring a Constitutional amendment - which is never going to happen.
Stop sucking regime cock, guys.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7c787eab8ea2430000017The WardenSun, 23 Dec 2012 22:09:59 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7c787eab8ea2430000017
One problem you have with your response is that there are many schools with armed guards in high risk areas. I know you want to ignore that but how exactly do you protect a school if you don't allow people to defend themselves?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7c56069beddcc68000014SM BrowardSun, 23 Dec 2012 22:00:48 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7c56069beddcc68000014
My response to you then is let's not have any laws at all then. Let's get rid of any driving requirements, any requirements about consensual sex, any requirements to prescribe or distribute drugs, any requirements to practice medicine, any requirements about food handling, etc.
Somehow, humanity has moved on from the Darwinian world that first existed in the original state of nature where there were no laws to a state of nature with laws. Humanity has done this because having laws is better than having none. Moreover, going back thousands of years humanity has created laws of war the most evil of practices knowing some will break the law. Therefore, humanity has collectively spoken unanimously throughout the thousands of years, and it says your conception of reality is wrong.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7b5f86bb3f73c1500003eboosbazaarSun, 23 Dec 2012 20:55:04 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7b5f86bb3f73c1500003e
I think a mental health review should seriously be considered for Wayne LaPierre. Have we come to a point that media gives airtime to someone that is completely off their rockers!...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7b01269bedd323500002eboosbazaarSun, 23 Dec 2012 20:29:54 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7b01269bedd323500002e
Cancel my membership to then NRA! I now know you are now days just a self serving special interest group and frauds...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7aef5eab8ead605000005andrewriverSun, 23 Dec 2012 20:25:09 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7aef5eab8ead605000005
The comparison between armed guards around the President, at airports, etc. and putting armed guards at schools (and while you're at it, why not malls, churches, stadiums, etc.) is ludicrous. Have you even bothered to count and compare the numbers?!? Not to mention that it would not even work. Remember Columbine? Worse yet, it would probably just increase the "collateral damage" (i.e. dead and injured) in the shoot-out. Remember the Empire State incident in August? Think, folks, think ... <a href="http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/mass-shootings-investigation" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/mass-shootings-investigation</a>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7acabeab8ea4678000028boosbazaarSun, 23 Dec 2012 20:15:23 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7acabeab8ea4678000028
I bet the NRA would not go for a Data Base of all gun owner..............http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7ac58ecad041f20000026boosbazaarSun, 23 Dec 2012 20:14:00 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7ac58ecad041f20000026
How about turning over all the schools to Homeland Security and the TSA and they can strip search everyone; students and visitors...or even better have Homeland Security and TSA be posted outside everyone's front door of their house or residency and strip search people before they leave their homes.....ah.. then we will be safe and everyone will feel less afraid and much better Right!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7a95769bedd9d2c000018boosbazaarSun, 23 Dec 2012 20:01:11 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7a95769bedd9d2c000018
Data base is another expensive and ineffective idea and a re-direction from a solution; that will not solve or benefit anything except corporate contractor at the expense of 20 children.
It's hard to be patriotic now days I tell you that!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7a835ecad04b719000009PWObserverSun, 23 Dec 2012 19:56:21 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7a835ecad04b719000009
So freedom to the NRA really only applies to gun ownership. The front man for a business lobby is asking to remove freedoms from society in order to maintain a failing business model, only a float through intimidation of representatives up for elections.
Anyone see the NRA - a business lobby - as a threat to this nation, a threat to our election process as a threat to our actual democracy?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7a5d76bb3f7b275000028boosbazaarSun, 23 Dec 2012 19:46:15 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7a5d76bb3f7b275000028
Data base generalized profiling is dangerous, most times giving inaccurate or skewed picture of a individual as well as falsely labeling individuals, and the inability to correlation excessive overload of inconsequential data. This is even crazier then weapons in school.
The only accurate rational approach is though in-depth evaluation by experts in the mental health field; this is why we need to re-establish mental health services around the country.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7a306eab8eab26e000007j72Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:34:14 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7a306eab8eab26e000007
Add a comment...all those laws and how many still driver without their lic. how many drive illeagally and cause multiple fatalities. the gun grabbers do not understand that law abiding people obey the law, criminals intent on doing harm do not. there for laws will not stop mass killers. the myans got it wrong. perhaps since you can predict fatalites in 2015 you should they a shot at predicting the end of the world.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d79fea69bedd6a0c000021Phil McCrackenSun, 23 Dec 2012 19:20:58 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d79fea69bedd6a0c000021
Call me crazy too. Until a better world is acheived - protect my kids. I don't think we should wait for months (if ever) and still leave our kids vulnerable to copy-cat murderers, and new threats. Put this capability in place now - build your preferred solution in parallel.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d79ee56bb3f7d06800002ej72Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:16:37 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d79ee56bb3f7d06800002e
Add a comment...the first thing they do to start a police state is ban and then confiscate the law abiding public's firearms.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d782c7eab8ea6f27000011The WardenSun, 23 Dec 2012 17:16:39 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d782c7eab8ea6f27000011
If Wayne is insane about protecting schools then so are those who run banks, airports, courts and the White house. You anti gun radicals seem to forget that that millions are protected by guns. So why is it crazy that we have the same protection at schools? The only ones that are insane are the anti gun crowd that would rather have us defenseless and vulnerable to attack by those who do not abide by the law.
- We care about our money, so we protect our banks with armed guards. American airports, office buildings, power plants, court houses, even sports stadiums are all protected by armed security.
- A gun in the hands of a Secret Service agent protecting the President isn't a bad word. A gun in the hands of a soldier protecting the United States isn't a bad word. And when you hear the glass breaking in your living room at 3 a.m. and call 911, you won't be able to pray hard enough for a gun in the hands of a good guy to get there fast enough to protect you.
So why is the idea of a gun good when it's used to protect our President or our country or our police, but bad when it's used to protect our children in their schools?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d778ceecad04ca3b000022SM BrowardSun, 23 Dec 2012 16:34:06 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d778ceecad04ca3b000022
Moreover, the guy himself is saying that a national database for the mentally ill be kept, and those on the list cannot own a weapon. The man completely forgets to mention people can become mentally ill throughout their life, and may become better as well. Therefore, his own policy can only be effectively implemented if individuals are regularly tested for mental illness.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7772aeab8ea4a0f000005SM BrowardSun, 23 Dec 2012 16:27:06 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7772aeab8ea4a0f000005
Very similar draconian approaches are already in effect throughout the United States. In order to drive you have to pass a written and driving test to drive. Do you think someone is going to get into a car with you for the driving test if you appear dangerous to them? In some locations in the United States you have to bring in your car for an inspection every year to pass an inspection. If you are caught breaking traffic laws x amount of times, or even once your license will be taken away. And as a matter of fact in 2015 deaths by guns will surpass death by vehicular death!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7699fecad04c91d00002bbdbrSun, 23 Dec 2012 15:29:19 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7699fecad04c91d00002b
Aren't police states usually created with the assumption of "protecting" citizens? I'm suggesting we neither trample constitutional rights OR create a police state.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d76217ecad042f15000002magariaSun, 23 Dec 2012 14:57:11 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d76217ecad042f15000002
This proposed legislation about limited size clip for assault weapons is a myth. Do you know how long it takes switch clips, even small ones, on a weapon?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7613fecad044317000004J FrameSun, 23 Dec 2012 14:53:35 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7613fecad044317000004
Yeah it's crazy when given the choice of spend the money or trampling citizen's constitutional rights they choose the later.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7569eecad04fb7c000014LoginwithfacebookSun, 23 Dec 2012 14:08:14 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7569eecad04fb7c000014
Ok and the first one to be on that "mentally ill" list can be you Mr Chairman. We're not paying 6 billion dollars for an armed guard in every school, because of this. That in my mind is insane. Then maybe we'll have to put one or two in every mall, movie theater, restaurant, park, workplace, bar, Wal Mart. Take your pills retard.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d74d07ecad04ac68000017labman57Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:27:19 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d74d07ecad04ac68000017
"Call me crazy"
Crazy like a fox ... as well as out of touch with the vast majority of Americans, completely self-serving, conscience-free and soulless, and a paid lackey of the gun manufacturing and retail industry.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7470269beddd03d00001bMatt LSun, 23 Dec 2012 13:01:38 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7470269beddd03d00001b
But changing HIPAA rules to reflect the need to keep firearms out of their hands is far easier than changing the constitution.
I am in favor of regulations keeping firearms out of the hands of the mentally ill, and think that should carry over to their immediate family as well. That would be a constitutional question, but I think one for the greater good of society.
You can't dictate common sense, but if Nancy Lanza would have had the sense to keep firearms out of the house of her damaged son we wouldn't be having this discussion this week.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d73908ecad04464600001cbdbrSun, 23 Dec 2012 12:02:00 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d73908ecad04464600001c
The government spending for the citizen tracking database probably won't be nearly as much as the "big government" spending for armed government agents at "soft targets" where people congregate. This is how police states get created.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d73902eab8eae50800001ciWonderSun, 23 Dec 2012 12:01:54 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d73902eab8eae50800001c
Sounds great, but why stop at guns, how about any one that wants to own a car needs this draconian approach applied as well. After all, psychos on the road cause far more deaths on the highways then guns do in this country.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d738e66bb3f75a2c00001dend the warsSun, 23 Dec 2012 12:01:26 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d738e66bb3f75a2c00001d
First of all the weapons found by lanza were pistols , lanza did not have an assault weapon and the gun that was found in the trunk of his mothers car was a shotgun not an assault weapon and in fact a semi auto weapon is not an assault weapon , assault weapon is one that fires on full auto, not semi auto.
There were two other suspects taken into custody by the newtown police and a video of the capture of one of them is on you tube,,, these had to be the ones that used the 223 weapons in the school as reports are 223 shell casings littered the floors in the school, now since lanza had two pistols , lanza did not have a 223 weapon, and now there is a total blackout on this info from the newtown police and the MSM.
Not since the third reich has there been such a regime of war and death and destruction as is the u.s. gov and no one calls for ending wars based on the false flag of 911, and the arming of al qaeda , and the u.s. is biggest arms dealer in the world but no one calls for ending the u.s. arms trade.
The bottom line is that every regime that disarmed its people went on to kill millions of their own people, and I do not trust the regime in control of america.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7365469bedd7822000003sm BrowardSun, 23 Dec 2012 11:50:28 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7365469bedd7822000003
To bad people's mental health can change over time. The following is the best way to prevent mass shooting from happening:
1. All weapon owners and family members who have immediate access to the weapon must
pass regular reoccuring mental health exams to own a weapon
2. If the primary owner passes, and a family member does not pass the owner must keep the
gun at a gun range.
3. A national gun database
4. All weapons sales must be registered and have the same standards as purchasing a
weapon from a gun store (ie background checks for all).
5. Tactial weapons (assault rifles) must be kept at the gun range
6. Banning high capacity gun clips
7. Removal of mental health test givers, and gun ranges from the acceptable list to give and
store weapons if X number of clients (single digits) broke the law using a weapon. Removal
from this list would remove a steady stream of incomehttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d734da6bb3f7d425000033ObbopSun, 23 Dec 2012 11:44:10 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d734da6bb3f7d425000033
I fear the mass media and politicians pander to their largest "user base;" the typical bleating citizen-sheep who are led more by emotions than logic or rationality.
If the past is repeated I expect warm-fuzzy feel-good efforts to prevent what I fear is mostly unpreventable.
The actions that DO assist in minimizing horrid events are outside the "feel-good" realm and are thus less likely to be implemented than actions that tickle the innards of the emotion-laden illogical masses of citizen-sheep.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d733966bb3f7fb25000019HAHASun, 23 Dec 2012 11:38:46 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d733966bb3f7fb25000019
What are you talking about?
School is ALREADY Prison. You cannot escape or the police will getcha.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d73145ecad048f3b00001abdbrSun, 23 Dec 2012 11:28:53 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d73145ecad048f3b00001a
Conservatives are against government spending until given the opportunity to spend tens of billions of dollars a year to turn our schools into light-security prisons.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d73124eab8eaa27b000003MBSun, 23 Dec 2012 11:28:20 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d73124eab8eaa27b000003
You are confusing so many issues it's difficult to sort them all out, but I will attempt to do so.
1. Israel is often under attack by neighboring countries. There is a need to protect one's family from enemies that are actively bombing them EVERY SINGLE DAY.
2. Switzerland does not have much of a real army to speak of, and all males 18 - 30 are expected to act as militiamen when called upon. The country is also actively pursuing control legislation.
3. Disarming AMERICA is different from control legislation. It also has nothing to do with wars abroad.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7307f6bb3f77e1d00001bsawyer50Sun, 23 Dec 2012 11:25:35 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7307f6bb3f77e1d00001b
I just got this in a email and liked it. So I'll share it with you...
Why Carry a Gun?
My old grandpa said to me 'Son, there comes a time in every man's life when he stops bustin' knuckles and starts bustin' caps and usually it's when he becomes too old to take an ass whoopin.'
I don't carry a gun to kill people.
I carry a gun to keep from being killed.
I don't carry a gun to scare people.
I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place.
I don't carry a gun because I'm paranoid.
I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world.
I don't carry a gun because I'm evil.
I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world.
I don't carry a gun because I hate the government.
I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government.
I don't carry a gun because I'm angry.
I carry a gun so that I don't have to spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared.
I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone.
I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.
I don't carry a gun to make me feel like a man.
I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love.
I don't carry a gun because I feel inadequate.
I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.
I don't carry a gun because I love it.
I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.
Police protection is an oxymoron. Free citizens must protect themselves.
Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate the crime
after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess.
Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and
too old to take an ass whoopin'.....author unknown (but obviously brilliant)http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d73060eab8ea327b00002bwhoopos@yahoo.comSun, 23 Dec 2012 11:25:04 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d73060eab8ea327b00002b
A felon does not get Second Amendment rights? who decided that?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d72f72ecad044e37000010NoSingleOneSun, 23 Dec 2012 11:21:06 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d72f72ecad044e37000010
Wow, this guy is proposing bigger government and taxes in order to let psychiatrists decide who does or doesn't get Second Amendment rights (which would be unconstitutional).
Not a lot of consistency here with real conservatism.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d72b9becad04672c00002aSSSun, 23 Dec 2012 11:04:43 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d72b9becad04672c00002a
PAPAS GOT A BRAND NEW BAG - NOPE SAME OLD!
There were two, not one but 2, armed police at Columbine High during the mass shootings. They were unable to stop them. There were armed security guards at VA Tech. Automatic Weapons have been banned and largely unavailable for ever. Why not 'semi-automatic?"http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d72807eab8ea3d63000035end the warsSun, 23 Dec 2012 10:49:27 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d72807eab8ea3d63000035
I was an NRA member for years , but quit because the NRA would not protest the unending wars in the middle east and they will not touch the subject of who actually did 911 , which was used as an excuse to plunge america into over 11 years and counting of wars in the middle east.
I am in total agreement with the NRA on opposition to gun control and in fact the NRA is too defensive on this issue and should be more proactive in pointing out that when lenin and stalin and hitler and mussolini and mao and pol pot , etc. took over a country the first thing they did was to disarm the people and then the slaughter of millions and millions took place , in every instance. The NRA fails to point out that in switzerland every household is required to have an assault weapon, and in israel, many adults carry assault weapons in public as a matter of course.
The NRA has been infiltrated in recent years by neocons, and if not for this investation, the NRA would be calling for an end to the wars in the mideast but instead the NRA has become somewhat like fox news in being a war enabler.
It is interesting that the gun control faction never calls for an end to the u.s. gov arming al qaeda in syria and they also had armed al qaeda in libya and bombed libya for 8 months to put al qaeda in control of libya, and remember that this is the same al qaeda the u.s. gov said did 911, the fact is 911 was a false flag, and al qaeda is a complete creation of the cia and mi 6 and al qaeda is in fact a mercenary army under the control of the cia and mi6, but no one protests the u.s. arming al qaeda with thousands and thousands of assault weapons and even heavier weapons, and lapierre does not touch this subject, evidently he is afraid to do so.
Also the assault weapons controllers ,,,never mention banning DRONES ,,which are the ultimate ASSAULT WEAPON,,, and on june 6,2012 when an obama drone strike killed 18 women and children in pakistan, president karzai went public and begged obama to stop the drone strikes and obama refused, and no one in america protested the killing of these women and children and in fact obamas drones have killed over 4,000 civilians, men women and children in the mideast and here again no one calls for banning drones.
Anyone who wants to disarm america, need only to look at what happened in germany, russia, china, etc. and consider that these holocausts only took place after the people were disarmed.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d727646bb3f7d116000001Call me MaybeSun, 23 Dec 2012 10:46:44 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d727646bb3f7d116000001
Lets be Honest here.
Their are only two reasons why Adam choose an elementary school
1. it is a soft target
2. where he could do the most devastation.
There are ONLY two things you could do to directly prevent this.
1. Provide more protection. Make soft targets hard targets.
2. Separate kids and home school. Don't put them all in one place.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7266d6bb3f78912000004SSSun, 23 Dec 2012 10:42:37 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d7266d6bb3f78912000004
WTG LALAPOLOZZA!!!
What an awesome idea from a very, very smart individual. We declare him 'crazy' put him in a national data base and prevent him from carrying guns. It may be the only way to stop the NRA. What a genius!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d726386bb3f74b0e00000dJaydeeSun, 23 Dec 2012 10:41:44 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50d726386bb3f74b0e00000d
The problem with injecting mental illness into background checks is HIPAA.