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I've tried Better Cities, Open Cities Reborn and now Classic. I must say, I do prefer this version over the other. BUT, please could you make quick patch to remove to huge castle flags? I know Reborn version got a patch, wonder why this never did. If you do not feel like adding this, could you tell me what I should edit in the CS? I got basic knowledge of it.

Good day to everyone. One question came to my mind. I have a problem with Imperial legion soldiers going astray while on their patrol. I mean that I often saw them riding through fields and forests instead of roads; or trying to climb the slope of a steep hill right under the bridge which they should normally be passing over; or imperial horses (with and without horseman on their back) frozen in a jump on the side of the road; or Imperial legion soldiers not attacking the enemy but standing still near their horse and marking time; or Imperial legion guards or city guards, all of a sudden attacking their fellow guards without apparent reason. I asked this question on UOP page as well as EngineBugFixes page. And one kind person said that Open Cities Classic may be causing all this mess. Is this true or just a wild guess and if it's true then is there a way to fix this straying NPCs problem without uninstalling this awesome mod? Thank you in advance, guys.

Edit: don't know if it's related but nevertheless I'll mention it here. Despite installed UOP NPC still fall from Skingrad castle bridge when PC is in the city but not near the bridge. Toutius Sextius, Vandorallen Trebatius, Skingrad guard - all these NPC happened to fall from this bridge while me visiting the city. How do you think, guys, could this bug be related to installed OCC as well or there is another reason which overrides UOP's fix for it?

Besides all these mods there are also Darnified UI + Color Map (both installed using OBMM) which don't have esp plugins and RAEVWD + RAEVWD SI Edition (both installed using Master Wizard in Wrye Bash, without esp plugins so as to be compatible with OCC and OC New Sheoth).

For a while now I've been trying to run this mod together with Better Cities, and while some cities it works fine, other places like Chorrol I get this game breaking bug where if I try to go back inside a interior the doors always says "Wooden Door" and I cant go inside. Leaving through the entrance of the city also just teleports me inside it again.After testing I found out this only happens if I got Better Cities activated. Even when I use the patches these two mods just give me this annoying bug.Also tried Open Cities Reborn instead and that one straight up makes Oblivion not load at all. I can only use Open Cities, or Better Cities, not both at the same time.I dont know exactly what the compatibility patch fixes but at least in my case theres still that Chorrol bug.

Considering the tendency of the BC authors to arbitrarily renumber form IDs for no good reason I wouldn't be surprised if they've done that again and broken every patch that ever existed for BC. So I'd suggest not trying to run both mods together.

I actually JUST found out that it happens when I fast travel to a point INSIDE the cities. So if I fast travel to the stable of the city, which is just outside the entrance, I can walk through the gates and it all works as intended. It's not a fix but eh at least I can use both mods like this.

For various reasons I'm using OCC instead of OCR now. However, one thing I really miss about OCR are the new walls and wall layouts. Cheydinhal's cute Dwemer walls, Bruma's wood palisades, Bravil's complete lack of walls, all very characterful. I'm wondering what the easiest way to go about adding OCR walls to OCC is. My best guess: install the OCR esm and resources over OCC while keeping the OCC esp, then just swapping out or removing meshes in CS. Or are the two esm files identical? Does that sound about right?

I accidentally loaded my main save with this mod enabled and saved. Once I realized, I disabled it, but all the vanilla city gates became non-solid, so they can be walked through and it's no longer possible to use them to enter the cities. Any way of fixing this, or will I have to start a new game? I followed the uninstall instructions and nothing.