If this is your first visit, be sure to
check out the FAQ by clicking the
link above. You may have to register
before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages,
select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Re: The Red Sox Thread

Originally Posted by ArodEra

Every single Sox game is treated like the 7th game of the WS on the front page of ESPN dot com. I'm glad that they're tanking.

ESPN is a bigger Pro-Boston site than CBSsports. Half their staff are Boston fans. Andrew Merchant, the "journalist" they have for the Yankees coverage hates the Yankees and 9 out of 10 articles he puts out are negative against the Yankees.

Re: The Red Sox Thread

Originally Posted by BabyBombers

ESPN is a bigger Pro-Boston site than CBSsports. Half their staff are Boston fans. Andrew Merchant, the "journalist" they have for the Yankees coverage hates the Yankees and 9 out of 10 articles he puts out are negative against the Yankees.

Re: The Red Sox Thread

Science showed they did nothing wrong guy. It was a witch hunt. Espn was an absolute joke with their awful reporting on that entire debacle. They got more things wrong

Did science show McNally wasn't specifically put in charge of footballs by Belichek once the rules were changed?

Did science show McNally actually did not have the nickname "The Deflator"?

Did science show the inexplicable routes taken with stop off in a restroom when there was a restroom in the locker room did not happen?

Did science show Brady did not intentionally obstructed?

Did science show the numerous anecdotes from past players around the condition of footballs when playing NE were all fake?

Does science explain how Belichek is lauded by Pats fans and others as having super control over every facet of the organization, but when it came to this, he plead clueless? Possibly a ban from football if caught cheating again?

Heck, even the local sports talk guys who aren't complete homers said it's obvious the Pats were guilty, they just handled it incorrectly.

Pats brought this on themselves. They were caught blatantly cheating with spygate (read deadspin for just how bad it was - and the NFL covering it up) and that's why there was additional (deserved) scrutiny.

Re: The Red Sox Thread

Did science show McNally wasn't specifically put in charge of footballs by Belichek once the rules were changed?

Did science show McNally actually did not have the nickname "The Deflator"?

Did science show the inexplicable routes taken with stop off in a restroom when there was a restroom in the locker room did not happen?

Did science show Brady did not intentionally obstructed?

Did science show the numerous anecdotes from past players around the condition of footballs when playing NE were all fake?

Does science explain how Belichek is lauded by Pats fans and others as having super control over every facet of the organization, but when it came to this, he plead clueless? Possibly a ban from football if caught cheating again?

Heck, even the local sports talk guys who aren't complete homers said it's obvious the Pats were guilty, they just handled it incorrectly.

Pats brought this on themselves. They were caught blatantly cheating with spygate (read deadspin for just how bad it was - and the NFL covering it up) and that's why there was additional (deserved) scrutiny.

Guy.

I suggest you take a look at the experiment the MIT professor did if you haven't already. Also Brady destroyed his phone after the investigator said it wasn't needed. Brady didn't obstruct anything. Espns reporting was awful. I'm not sure how you can't see this. Starting with saying 11 balls were deflated. That was just irresponsible

Baseball games are not won with a formula. If you can hit, they will find a place with you

Re: The Red Sox Thread

Originally Posted by fightingirish595

I suggest you take a look at the experiment the MIT professor did if you haven't already. Also Brady destroyed his phone after the investigator said it wasn't needed. Brady didn't obstruct anything. Espns reporting was awful. I'm not sure how you can't see this. Starting with saying 11 balls were deflated. That was just irresponsible

The prosecutors did not ask for Brady's phone. They asked for Brady to turn over all texts that might be relevant to the case, and that they would "take him on his word" and did not need the phone. He didn't comply.

As far as the MIT, I have read it. It's one guy, a Pats fan.

Look at it simply:

Pats accused of having deflated footballs.

Inquiry shows the guy in charge of handling footballs is called "The Deflator"

Re: The Red Sox Thread

Originally Posted by NerfBall55

The prosecutors did not ask for Brady's phone. They asked for Brady to turn over all texts that might be relevant to the case, and that they would "take him on his word" and did not need the phone. He didn't comply.

As far as the MIT, I have read it. It's one guy, a Pats fan.

Look at it simply:

Pats accused of having deflated footballs.

Inquiry shows the guy in charge of handling footballs is called "The Deflator"

Text messages unveil conversations between Brady and Deflator.

When asked for evidence, Brady has destroyed it.

This is like Ortiz being drug free.

The guy isn't a Pats fan. Not sure where your getting that information from. I'm pretty sure even if he was that has no effect on the laws of science.

Baseball games are not won with a formula. If you can hit, they will find a place with you

Re: The Red Sox Thread

Originally Posted by NerfBall55

Fine.

What about the rest of the post - all of that actually happened.

None of what you said proves anything. The facts shown by the professor have a great deal of meaning. I didn't bring this up to have a discussion about deflategate and whether they are guilty or not(although I'm perfectly comfortable having it) it was merely to point out espns irresponsible reporting and their continued lies.

Baseball games are not won with a formula. If you can hit, they will find a place with you

Re: The Red Sox Thread

Originally Posted by fightingirish595

None of what you said proves anything. The facts shown by the professor have a great deal of meaning. I didn't bring this up to have a discussion about deflategate and whether they are guilty or not(although I'm perfectly comfortable having it) it was merely to point out espns irresponsible reporting and their continued lies.

There's no definitive proof but plenty of persuasive evidence. Given the facts I posted, combined with the fact that New England had been fined and docked picks for cheating previously, smart money is on them being guilty.

What I personally think happened was one of two things:

Brady liked his footballs on the low end of the spectrum....McNally pushed the envelope, and they got caught.

or

Brady liked his footballs on the low end of the specturm, and Belichek, Brady, and Mcnally all conspired made sure they got that way and then some.

In my mind, scenario two fits the makeup of this team. Either way, if they just said McNally got a bit overzealous, they would have gotten a 25k equipment violation fine.

Re: The Red Sox Thread

Originally Posted by NerfBall55

There's no definitive proof but plenty of persuasive evidence. Given the facts I posted, combined with the fact that New England had been fined and docked picks for cheating previously, smart money is on them being guilty.

What I personally think happened was one of two things:

Brady liked his footballs on the low end of the spectrum....McNally pushed the envelope, and they got caught.

or

Brady liked his footballs on the low end of the specturm, and Belichek, Brady, and Mcnally all conspired made sure they got that way and then some.

In my mind, scenario two fits the makeup of this team. Either way, if they just said McNally got a bit overzealous, they would have gotten a 25k equipment violation fine.

I seriously have to question if you read the article by the professor. It clearly states the balls dropped in pressure just as they were supposed to. The balls were the right level at the beginning and dropped PSI during the game due to lower temperatures and rain.

Baseball games are not won with a formula. If you can hit, they will find a place with you

Re: The Red Sox Thread

Originally Posted by fightingirish595

I seriously have to question if you read the article by the professor. It clearly states the balls dropped in pressure just as they were supposed to. The balls were the right level at the beginning and dropped PSI during the game due to lower temperatures and rain.

I read the article when it was published. I live 10 minutes from Gillette Stadium, I've been surrounded by this story since its inception.

It's irrelevant.

Until you can explain The Deflator and the text messages, it doesn't matter.