Posted Dec 1, 2015

Each Sugar Daddy has their own no-go circumstances when it comes to their personal taste in Sugar Babies. You can’t be everyone’s cup of tea. But this also rings true for the Sugar Daddies. While each Sugar Baby has her own personal preferences, there are some universal deal breaking faux pas that can be agreed upon.

All Salt

Nothing can end an evening faster for a Sugar Baby than finding out her date is pure salt. More than likely, he has never had a true arrangement and is not willing to agree upon one. There are other dating sites for you, but SeekingArrangement isn’t it.

Doesn’t Understand “No”

Whether it’s another drink, not being able to make a date, or even when it comes to intimacy, not feeling heard or downright ignored is never okay. A Sugar Daddy that simply can’t grasp the meaning of no is not only disrespectful, but a red flag down the road. Check please.

Lacks Gentleman Qualities

Being a gentleman comes at no cost to a Sugar Daddy, and says a lot about him as a person. Many times Sugar Babies find themselves seeking an older gentleman instead of the immature boys their age for a reason. They want to know that chivalry isn’t dead, don’t place a nail in the coffin.

Throws Back Booze

Nothing is as unappealing as an individual who has been well over served. Women aren’t the only ones capable of being sloppy. No one has time for a man who doesn’t know his limits, or is a careless mess that has to be taken care of. Arrangements are prided on being drama free, these circumstances are a breeding ground for an unwanted mess for everyone involved.

Hitched

While this may not be the case with all Sugar Babies, some have their own reasons for passing on the opportunity to jump into an arrangement with a wife in tow. But hiding the fact that you have a wife is a sure fire way to get even the most understanding and open minded Sugar Baby walking. No one likes to be kept in the dark, so be open from the start.

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Guest Onesays:

Sugar Babies have rights, and they should be treated with respect always. We should all agree on that and hopefully we all do. But Sugar Daddies are human beings and no one should go out of their way to insult, injure, damage, or treat them like dirt simply because they are men over 30 years of age. If you don’t want someone to hurt your feelings or denigrate you then you shouldn’t be trying to hurt or denigrate someone else.

jxsays:

Only met 1 potential sd in person. He scored a big plus point with me saying he would agree to a sexual hea lth check, this mattered so much more than anything he wanted to offer. His sexual tastes were not like any past boyfriends, but he was very open and non threatening. I had chatted online with him so had a good rapport. Travelling distance put a raincheck on further development. Will leave site with a soft spot for a stranger.

What if you are a virgin ? I am not ready to give that up especially for money. I just want to meet a nice SD that is respectful

CasandraMsays:

Most men on here I have come to find seem to think this is a rich man’s escort service or something. I believe it’s absolutely class-less. Here’s to hoping there are some gentlemen out there whom are willing to wait and enjoy spending time together until things further naturally.

Im sure plenty of men are willing to spend “time” together before sex. Just don’t expect them to give you money during that time period.

Ladies don’t demand money and wait while enjoy spending time with their SD before greedily expect money.

CasandraMsays:

All time is valuable, but I wouldn’t expect an allowance off the bat or at all. I just hope the man or woman has enough class to pay for whatever it is we choose to do together. I’m not the greedy type though, so I cannot account for other women. I want to have an adventure with my possible SD.

Sex should come with time, comfort, and it should have a natural flow.

I think that is doable.

You should be able to find guys to do stuff with you like pay for dinners without sex as long as you don’t expect to get paid an allowance/cash.

CasandraMsays:

I’m not an SB that asks for much. Everyone is different, I for one just am in this to have an adventure with someone. I want to go skydiving, hang-gliding, explore different regions, and occasionally sit down, eat, and enjoy an intellectual conversation with the POT SD.

**says:

@ CasandraM

What state do you reside in CasandraM?

Alexiasays:

If they don’t want to give any type of help just because they’re just spending time together then he wants to pay for sex because he doesn’t think that spending time together, getting to know each other, having good moments is part of the arrangement.. I mean the girl is spending her time with him, he has her companionship… I understand about not giving a certain allowance but atleast some money, some help… I mean the arragement isn’t just sex… Sex is a part of the arragement so he shouldn’t pay for the other part? …. Most men on that kind of website wanna pay for sex and don’t want to pay for a escort because it would be way more expensive…

Simonesays:

These women are not suckers, unless they’re prostitutes. If a guy is serious about a long term SD situation he will be a gentleman and suggest meeting for a nice dinner a couple times and show some signs of being generous. It is not our job to give sex in return for money. THAT is what hookers do! Not my job to stroke the ego of a John.

I’d have to be in an arrangement to spend TIME with someone. This is SA, not a regular dating site. smh

Zeldasays:

Also a list of sexual expectations that are risky from the beginning.

IntelligentMusesays:

Couldn’t agree more. I luckily have been able to see these qualities in messages and haven’t wasted my time on a date. Yet. I hope there are true gentlemen out there. Although, ladies, your photos designate the type of man that will be interested. It starts there. <3

Andromeda Finchsays:

Ok, so me and an SB newbie friend are amused at the number of guys seeking “mutually beneficial” arrangements. I read that and I think ‘put out and I pay’. Am I being cynical or is there many other definitions and insinuations to that phrase?

With a Bow on Topsays:

Yes, there are various of ways of interpreting “mutually beneficial” but you do also need to understand Sugar Daddies want/expect different things. Some need an emotional relationship, most want a sexual relationship, some want a friendship, but it would be naive of you (considering your age) and your friend to think that a grown man does not sexual needs when it comes to arrangements. Nothing is truly free in this world. Its very rare that you will find someone who is okay with something strictly platonic. Change your mindset about what mutually beneficial means otherwise you won’t have any luck on SA.

I agree with this article. Been here almost a week and most the profiles I look at tend to come off as salts/cheap men who want nothing more than sex and that’s not what I am looking for.

Anonymoussays:

This is mainly what is here on your side. On the other side, mostly are women who just want sex for pay. Serious people on both sides have to put a lot of time and effort into finding someone who is here for an actual Arrangement.

Estephanyasays:

No. A simple picture of yourself would suffice. 😉

FunDudesays:

No one gives a shit.

Thanks in advance.

Estephanyasays:

Well it’s blatantly obvious that a few of you have no respect and haven’t learned the simple rules of polite comportment. I suppose that’s what happens when you’re completely out of touch with reality though.

Why are “regulars” dishing so much advice to a ho aka iStacy?

Jaybird923says:

Wondering the same thing ….

Anonymoussays:

I love how you guys don’t know me from a can of paint I simply asked a question and many of those tips I took I actually came back to this blog post to say thank you and I took you guys advice but to call me names yet I’m the “ghetto and classless one” wow anyway thank you to everyone who had positive input happy holidays

I am tired of people playing victim and blaming others.
So that’s why I posted what I posted and tried to give it a positive message.
It was @Stacy now, but it could have been anybody else.

Anonymoussays:

this article reminds me of the dangers of being a cute sugar baby lol

iStacysays:

I would love love love if someone would take a look into my profile pretty please I’m really starting to think they should start a sugar baby website for women of color because no one likes us here and if they do they treat you like bottom of the barrel

Lovebeautyzensays:

Yes, I agree. Being a person of color on here is horrible. They do not want to talk to us. At first I thought it was me, but no— it was other sugar babies who are not white. Its shameful we get treated like trash or just good for sex. Most of us are college educated, beautiful, lovely woman. I told someone a couple days ago— this website only works if you are white.

Anonymoussays:

Most SDs are white. Most people prefer to date in their race. There are roughly 4 SBs for each SD, which means that roughly 3 out of 4 SBs will never find an SD. The odds aren’t that good for ALL SBs. People have preferences – it is best to accept it.

You can improve your chances by having a good, non-entitled attitude. I love how you think that instead of improving yourself, someone else needs to do something for you, like make a new website for people of color.

yougottabekiddingmesays:

“I would love love love if someone would take a look into my profile pretty please I’m really starting to think they should start a sugar baby website for women of color because no one likes us here and if they do they treat you like bottom of the barrel”

iStacy…

are you kidding me?!

Have you seen your profile??

I cant even.

I just cant even.

Cool Nerdsays:

Honestly, the world of dating, in general, is made to be more difficult for women of color. There’s all sorts of preconceived notions and misunderstandings. Women of color can possess a type of confidence, realness and inner strength, which can be intimidating to some people, yet a turn-on to others, especially in a world telling us not to be loved. Loving and taking pride in the skin you’re in is a wonderful thing. At the end of the day, everyone has a preference, which is OK. Just be yourself and shine your brilliant light; someone will love you for just that! And don’t mind those who are strictly into their own race. You can’t force folks to be open-minded

Cool Nerdsays:

And in response to @yougottabekiddingme, I’m kind of on board with her. To say your skin color is working against you is one thing, but to disregard how men may perceive you based on those pictures.. well, that’s a whole other story.

O_o

Monicasays:

It’s not necessarily a true statement. You feel that way Stacey because you make yourself feel that way. I’m an African American girl, and I’ve been on this site for probably two years now. Yes, not everyone’s gonna like you. However, I’ve successfully found a few great men out here. You just have to go into the conversation as you would on a regular first time meeting. Don’t sound to thirsty, and just don’t give yourself up because you have to keep in mind that these are men, most “rich” men, and would prefer being seen with someone who looks or acts classy (hint your profile picture gives a bit too much. I may be wrong but just my thought). I’m no expert and might be young, but trust me I know how to get what I want. You’re beautiful and need to stop eating off on negative thoughts. Stay positive and don’t always take it back to race.

im sorry to be so blunt but your pictures suck you’re not going to attract anyone with those

Anonymoussays:

What about them sucks ? My face? I can’t change that. I provided full body and face pictures

Anonymoussays:

anon there is nothing wrong with you or your profile its the clothes you wear in the pictures most of the sugar daddies are white here they want a classy lady the clothes you wear don’t represent class good luck in your search

Anonymoussays:

You come across ghetto in your profile. It’s not just the pics but the bad attitude. You’ve got a lot to fix.

Anonymoussays:

You are probably right – another site would be better. But don’t think most SD’s are treating you badly since you will simply not show up on most searches. Just a fact of life. I don’t go to a sushi bar if I want a steak. Most SD’s here are looking for something different than what you offer.

You are only going to get P4P and Johns messaging you. Your attitude and entitlement will get you no where. Delete and start over.

Brown and Beautifulsays:

You are absolutely right. One SD replied LOL did you really thought I want you. And another replied that I would not be no one’s preference. Oh wait I was offered $500 monthly allowance. Like really. That is so insulting, I swear.

Plainy Janeysays:

yea thats crazy!

Plainy Janeysays:

No shade, but maybe its how you are presenting yourself. Your profile pic doesnt scream take me to 4seasons. Take a pretty pic more served and save this one for the private photos. I’m not claiming you are an escort, but many use pics like your profile. Most SD wants the GF experience. Look like a hot girlfriend instead.

I would bet my next pay check she was a Stripper.

Anonymoussays:

You need to bet something significant.

elainesays:

@iStacy

Look, you are a beautiful girl of colour.
But your profile and your pictures suck.
If you get treated as the bottom of the barrel, it is because you present yourself exactly like that.

You are black.
I am old.
So in theory we are both disadvantaged. But in practice it doesn’t have to be that way!

Instead of reacting like the underdog and the victim because men don’t like “black” or “old” women, use it to your advantage!

Because there IS men on this site that are attracted to women of colour, or women in their own age bracket.
So all you have to do is to make sure to stand out and be their best option!

When you know what is the prejudices against your race, don’t act as the stereotype!
Put yourself in the shoes of a white, older, affluent businessman.
Based upon the presentation in your profile, can you imagine him wanted to be seen in public with you?

And then we are not even talking about the other group of men, those that might not be searching especially for “black” or “old” women, but not exclude them either.
Surprise them positively and be an attractive alternative!

Lolasays:

Elaine , i like your advice i am blacck too , and i won’t display these kind of pictures.And i would have fibd someone here already if i wasn’t far away, lol of the ones that i wanted and wanted me,some do not prefer the fact that i have a kid .. but well said. Your advice are always so great.

elainesays:

@iStacy

Look, you are a beautiful girl of colour.
But your profile and your pictures suck.
If you get treated as the bottom of the barrel, it is because you present yourself exactly like that.

You are black.
I am old.
So in theory we are both disadvantaged. But in practice it doesn’t have to be that way!

Instead of reacting like the underdog and the victim because men don’t like “black” or “old” women, use it to your advantage!

Because there IS men on this site that are attracted to women of colour, or women in their own age bracket.
So all you have to do is to make sure to stand out and be their best option!

When you know what is the prejudices against your race, don’t act as the stereotype!
Put yourself in the shoes of a white, older, affluent businessman.
Based upon the presentation in your profile, can you imagine him wanted to be seen in public with you?

And then we are not even talking about the other group of men, those that might not be searching especially for “black” or “old” women, but not exclude them either.
Surprise them positively and be an attractive alternative!

Makilisays:

Do you really think it’s about color? Also, you’re gorgeous. Just like other people suggested, I think it’s may be due to a way you represent yourself. If I was a SD I would rather contact a sugarbaby with a profile photo showing her beautiful face, not her body.

You are very beautiful, use that and show a little class. Not being white isn’t really the biggest problem. Imagine living in a country with no sugar daddies, like I do and it’s not easy to find someone who is willing to travel only for you. Now that’s difficult.

yeah… maybe her mind just said… ‘i am nervous about showing my face, so i’ll just pick the picture that grabs the most attention’

sweetlarksays:

well that ^ and ‘the picture that’s easiest to crop my face out of’ 😛

sweetlarksays:

and lastly, because i know someone will take the ‘attention’ thing wrong…

these profiles are like a business, so one way to think about it is like an advertisement: how do i make mine stand out? that might be the question you have, especially if you’re a perfectionist or something

Amused_SDsays:

The problem is that women of color are minorities. People more often than not date within their race. If you look from the SD side (and depending on the location), roughly 40-50% of the women are women of color.

So you figure according to percentages, women of color are 1 out of 8.
Women of color SB’s are roughly 1 of 2 or 1 of 3 sugar babies.
SB’s outnumber men 4 to 1.

So women of color SB’s have roughly a 1/16 chance of matching up with a SD about 1/100.

Your mileage may vary based on looks, intelligence, location…

Anonymoussays:

I think you’re profile is excellent and if I were in a position to be a SD, you’d be just the kind of sorted and sexy lady I’d be looking for. (I’m white BTW). Some men are closed minded and only want to date within their own race, but you just have to persist until you find the right one who isn’t.

My only suggestion is perhaps tone down the “don’t do this, you need to do that” tone of the profile. It perhaps makes a pot think you’re a bit prickly and high maintenance in a bad way (which I’m sure you’re not). I’m sure you can make the same points in a way that doesn’t sound defensive.

Hang on in there, remember what ever type of person you are, you’ll be ideal for someone.

Oh and BTW I *think* I’ve seen a sugar daddy site for black ladies somewhere, have a google.

Another Anonymoussays:

@ YGBKM

Try a mental experiment. The Book of Mormon is a musical on Broadway, nor exactly flattering of religion but there are no white Mormon males from Utah protesting or fighting. What would happen if the musical is The Book of Quran?

So about Charlie Sheen…

Anonsays:

Some of these men, you fuck once and then you just gotta drop the mic on that one and walk off.

Anonsays:

Long story short ladies. It matter not what is I between your head. Only what is in between your arms (preferred bolt on’s). If your pussy if fat and your waist is slim. Work out, stay toned and smile and nod. Memorize the above, repeat and burn any other thought. There is no value in this world except for your looks. When the men start in on this stupid blog that, the above is all you have to offer and they try to demean you for it…spray your tight tan ass or pastey white skin (whatever God gave you) down with perfume, massage the smell into your skin and whiff the smell of nature and know that your looks are all you have. Once they fade, you have nothing.

TVC15says:

I’ll try to get around to that, but I’m kinda busy this week.

Anonsays:

Quote of the day fellas. When I told my kids Sant was not real and that there will be no Santa for them this year,one child responded. “That’s ok. If Santa would lose weight, he would fit in his sleigh so that he could come see us and give us presents. It’s not our fault he is fat. We were not on the naughty list, so maybe he will be on a diet by next year and come see us.”

That is a remarkable response from a child while my neck was embraced as tightly as one could dream and I was told Christmas was about family and those who love you, as long as we are together. From a 2nd grader.

I wish grown men still thought like little children.

TVC15says:

You’re in luck; they do!

Anonsays:

You are funny TVC..like, no shit. It’s obvious the men of this blog think that way, but In a twisted mind.

They say to themselves, “that’s right bitches, you keep thinking that way.so that way we can slide our dicks in and out o you and zip up and out without giving you a dime or a breadcrumb. It’s no trouble. It happens all the time. Our intentions are to squeeze and please the life out of you women, while we exalt ourselves and leave you in squalor. Holler bitches, bc we will be when we high five the boys back at the club house on how we made the “joke on you”. And then you wonder why women make blogs that condone twit behavior while they hope your neck is eaten with acid to the core of your esauphegous, as they step on your raw insides spewing, with their stiletto and call a cab on their way out your door, after they raided your wallet. You leave the women in hideous dresses and insult them at every turn. Eventually they become like you. Cruder said it best…he taught his SB on how to handle men appropriately after him. He checked for consistency and realized he had a proper candidate to pump and dump and mind rape in manipulation until she became wise, then he gel his hand high in the air in order to hail a taxi cab on the way out to the next hottest piece of ass before it caught his on fire with stds. Welcome to the wide world world of reality. Life will eat you up and spit you out unless you open the car door and kick their ass out first. Right boys? Either your hanging or slanging. If it is limp, your a wimp and your date is sealed. We won’t care how many times you call…call Viagra before you call us because we have another stop to get off at on this bus.

Anonymoussays:

@Anon
get back on your meds – we only want to help.

TVC15says:

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@ YGTBK and work violence

This was the most disgusting racist rant you just wrote. And the numbers are still completely of mark.

yougottabekiddingmesays:

Spoiler alert! Spoiler alert!

Outside of the cave is a puppeteer

Not here to fight or convince anyone of anything. The data is there if you care to access it. People will take the parts of truth that appeal to and benefit them. And even worse, the truth theyre told…without question.

Believe what you will

[shrugs]

Anonsays:

I remember the days of trips or Christmas for me and my family when my SD cared…then, I remember when my SD traded me in for a newer model. He has been traded his women in ever since.

Now, I get called when he is drunk and bored. He doesn’t remember me on Christmas anymore and never worried or cares if I even have a gift for Christmas under a tree for me anymore.

He only texts random sex texts when he is
drunk or lonely off his ass and no one will pick up or reply to a text, but of course, me. Then, he tells me to dress In a white naughty sexy lingerie outfit and get ready for him. Funny thing is, he has never taken the time to buy me a sexy white lingerie outfit. He has never remered my address so he can order me one or have one shipped to me.

Santa, can I please have a decent sugar daddy who’s teeth are not rotted out with greed and the bling of the world of all the smelly fish he has deposited his money into their stockings. Can he give the hookers coal and can you bring me shiny things this yet that make me smile, instead of the typical dust o another woman’s coal?

I never was bad, nor mean or ugly. And perhaps through the years, I became sad with a wee bit of fat to call “pudgy”. But never once did I deserve the lights to go dim or ever to be forgotten…not from you and certainly, not from him.

Signed,

The one who asked for tooth front teeth as a child. A missing SB who apparently lost her action.

Anonymoussays:

If he wanted a wife, he would marry you. NSA means no strings attached. If another woman caters better to his needs, he could and should move on.
And so should you. Obviously, being pudgy is a great start to attract a new man into your life.

Anonsays:

Notice, kind anonymous friend. I am well aware what NSA means. NSA. Means, there are “no strings attached.” However, if you desire me to wear a sexy, naughty white lingerie set for you at 2:00am, when you are drunk and ask I “I’m awake?” And I reply (oh gee, looks look who has been turned by everyone one from his newfound zoo), it means.. There are no strings attached and I owe you nothing. I owe you the sexy white lingerie outfit you keep professing you need and desire see me in bc the woman whom you are obsessing over that apparent wore it for you, still won’t return your phone calls. But, the Pinocchio catch is…if you never care to leave string in the first place, so that as you throw this rod and reel of “fishing” to me in your lonely hour o need…well gee, I have nothing to hold onto either, nor a sexy, white, naughty lingerie outfit that I would adore to own and bring to your knees out of fun and spark that talks to anyone’s heart. But, you Nate desired that string, hence you jumped at the first sign of bling.

Why taunt me and torment when a temptress you could have, instead, it is not different than eying kicked out of Daves car and say, no, that’s not my “Daddy”…I hear other call him a worthless man coined as “Dad.” Sad, to hear your fear, and the demise you inflict in another’s ear.

If she were so good and kind, catering to his needs as an external “prime” …then why does my phone still ring? When she finds a shinier man to call her Daddy and alone he finds my number to once again remember to “ping” in order to have a soul who cares enough to once again make his empty soul sing. See what I mean?

TVC15says:

Block his number.

Anonymoussays:

Sorry, sugar. You answering his calls is your doing, not his. As the blogger beliow suggests, block his number. Block him and move on. If you are still answering his calls, you hope he will come back. Not impossible, but unlikely.

As to semantics, a concubine to me implies live in situation, a mistress implies a married man involvement. How about kept woman?

@ TVC15

What exactly is transphobic?

@ TVC15

Cryptic Anomalysays:

Fear of Trans Fats.

Seriously though Transphobia is another one of these made up Politically Correct terms that they use to try and shame anyone who disagrees. It used to work but like anything Left Wing they use it so often and for anything that no one gives a fuck anymore.

Anonymoussays:

This blog smells like a tuna fish sandwich that’s been sitting out in the sun for 3 days.

Time for a new sandwich.

cruyzersays:

Hi there to all of you.
I’m new to this site, barely a member for more than 2 days and browsing through the different blogs and the comment sections, I am surprised about the numerous entries regarding the prostitute/SB distinction.
First of all – legal considerations aside – what constitutes a prostitute is clearly a very personal distinction. Is the wife that has lost all love for her husband and stays with him for merely financial reasons prostituting herself? For some she is; others may think it is perfectly ok.
Is the 20some yer old student who is looking forward to every meeting with her 30 years older mentor a prostitute just because she accepts financial rewards? For me she isnt; for others she might be nothing but a fancy hooker.
i have been in relationships with SBs in a variety of constellations; for some i was the sole SD; for others one among several; for one I was a traditional boyfriend guiding her during her first steps into becoming a SB for others. (Hm, does that mean I qualified as a pimp? – some might see it that way)
Where am I leading with this? As personally distinct as the moral guidelines are for everybody, as distinct is the potential impact a beneficial agreement ultimately may have on a SB.
Courtesan, maitresse, FWB, provider of a girlfriend experience, hooker – its just semantics; irrelevant as long as both sides of the arrangement are truly comfortable with it.

Just wait till the prostitute divorces you, takes the house and half your assets, gets lifetime alimony, and full custody of the kids with child support.

I would rather have a part time prostitute. I hate divorce lawyers.

cruyzersays:

I have one (and a half) word for you: pre-nup!
Been married several times; no alimony and asset split.
But – some pre-nups are more intricate and morally questionable (even regulating the minimum frequency of intercourse) than most contracts between SDs and SBs. See my point?

TVC15says:

If we were to accept your logic, that might interfere with our endless petty arguments.

kssays:

Well there is a legal definition for prostitution and also for wife. There is no legal definition for most of the other terms, so the ambiguity and semantics is important in my view. I prefer the term Mistress. The dilemma is created by any monetary value associated with a relationship.

cruyzersays:

The legal definition rarely has an influence on how one deals with ambiguous situations. We all are a product of the cultural/religious/social background of our upbringing – that’s what causes the ambiguity.
The monetary value attached to a relationship should be the last factor to create a dilemma – at least that’s what my personal corset of upbringing tells me.

kssays:

@cruiser. Partially agree. Any pre-nup will nail down the definitions and terms, even the assets (with or without accrual). When you enter into any casual informal relationship that involves sex and money there is an ambiguity of whether it’s prostitution (illegal in most states), or not (legal). I agree, there is a moral and ethical dilemma related to upbringing, marriage vows, etc, but most of us have sufficient ambiguity in our thinking to rationalize anything, especially when it is the penis doing all the thinking … wrong tool for the wrong job…

“Foreploy: any misrepresentation about yourself for the purpose of obtaining sex.”

Another Anonymoussays:

@ ks

Courtesan, mistress?

Or maybe a lady having a generous BF. The semantics is complicated. If a 45 y/o wealthy single guy is dating a much less wealthy lady 20 years his junior, I am sure there will be luxury travel, gifts, wining and dining. So what would make him a SD? I think it is the formal negotiation about expected monetary value of gifts and/or cash stipend.

kssays:

@AA There is a huge amount of ambiguity and very little definition of terms such as Mistress, SB, SD, Courtesan, escort, etc . As long as the mutual agreement between parties does not meet the legal definition of prostitution then adults can play. Its really the expected monetary value of gifts and/or cash stipend that complicates matters. I see the term Mistress as being less problematic when paying expenses to offset the cost of the relationship especially when it is a longer term fairly exclusive arrangement. The term SB/SD seems to be a fairly recent term given that older men-young women relationships have existed since history was first recorded.

kssays:

How about Concubinage? Any thoughts on how that differs from other terms?

TVC15says:

1. a woman who cohabits with a man to whom she is not legally married, especially one regarded as socially or sexually subservient; mistress.
2. (among polygamous peoples) a secondary wife, usually of inferior rank.
3. (especially formerly in Muslim societies) a woman residing in a harem and kept, as by a sultan, for sexual purposes.

Besides, mental illness might be easier to manage than terrorism.

Sugar babies are women who are financially compensated by wealthy men in exchange for companionship. Sugar daddies are men who provide financial support to women in exchange for a relationship. The women are usually younger than the men, and the relationship or companionship almost always involves sex.

So how does the sugar daddy / sugar baby relationship differ from the client / prostitute relationship? One of the most popular sugar baby “dating” sites, seekingarrangement.com, is vehemently against any notion that the sugar babies using their site are prostitutes, and they argue the distinction between prostitution and sugar babies in a blog post. They raise four points that, they feel, clearly distinguish sugar babies from prostitutes. A closer look, however, reveals that there’s not as much of a distinction between illegal prostitution and sugar babies as Seeking Arrangement would lead one to believe.

The @sugar baby monkey = @batshit = @kms2014 = @LadyScarlett.

This woman is racist and has used “blackitude” in the past to show her racism toward blacks. It is unfortunate…but it is what it is.

sugar baby monkeysays:

i see, you can’t stop writing my name. and blackitude? you have issues man, i’ve never been racist with black people nor any other “race”. you don’t have nothing to prove this hence shut up

and it’s clear that you have a very disgusting taste, first the disgusting indian body with her old indian rat face. then the transgender breast of jay though her breast were natural or not, she looks like a transgender, sorry but it’s the truth

TVC15says:

You are racist. You’re also transphobic.

If you use racial terms as insults you’re racist. If you use trans terms as insults you’re transphobic. If you use gay terms as insults you’re homophobic. If you use female terms as insults you’re a misogynist.

sorry for other thing, not for an insult, because there were not insults

TVC15says:

The moral of the story is, never argue with a sugar baby monkey.

From Sheri’s Ranch, a legal Nevada brothel

The jargon of the illegal prostitution industry is changing. As escort websites like myredbook.com are being exposed as resources for illegal prostitution and getting shut down by the FBI, a new type of “dating” site is rapidly gaining in popularity and emerging as the prostitution platform of the 21st century. Websites that arrange relationships between sugar daddies and sugar babies, scenarios where wealthy gentlemen provide money and other resources to young women in exchange for intimate relations, are turning a considerable profit in their attempt to rebrand illegal prostitution into something slightly more palatable.

This seemingly effective “work around” to avoid being designated as a prostitution-related website has not only caused numerous sugar dating sites to pop up, but also motivated pre-existing online escort directories and punter forums like naughtyreviews.com to remodel and re-imagine their prostitution resource as “dating for sugar daddies and sugar babies.”

Anonymoussays:

Owners of this site need to pay attention and remove such idiotic messages.

Anonymoussays:

Psycho Killer. The fact is that brothels and escort sites have taken a significant hit in their income stream and revenues due to the emergence of this SD/SB phenomenon. Why would anyone go to some used up old overpriced high mileage prostitute when you can have a young naive college coed for pennies on the dollar?
Duh ????

Filthy lucre does soil the relationship into one of prostitution. No matter the name

TVC15says:

Thanks for the clarification. Your work here is done.

Another Anonymoussays:

Ad charity – it is always possible, but it seems to be very awkward. There are many better recipients for charity and of course true charity does not expect reciprocation.

Ad clients – yes, it is a perennial topic here. I know there are exclusive arrangements with true feelings, that would survive an economic disaster on SD’s part. But I would guess that they are a distinct minority. I am afraid that majority of arrangements fit to the category of “entertainer on retainer”.

elainesays:

No, they are not.
Escorts have “clients” aka “Johns”.

But I am tired of explaining the difference, so believe whatever you like.

Kore13says:

@elaine I’ve noticed that as well. I’ve mentioned plenty of times, but there are still a few who keep coming back to this..

In their heart of hearts, I think they’re upset that they can’t seem to find someone to help in exchange for some genuine feelings. If that’s not the case, then I think it’s them who has to give the SB a chance.

Anonymoussays:

I think the biggest difference between an escort and an SB, that you have obligations towards SB. If you cannot meet and she is available, her weekly installment should be hers, regardless. With escort, one has no obligations of that sort.
The rest is pretty similar.

Kore13says:

Do you sometimes form a bond with an escort and hope that she might be something like your girlfriend?

Anonymoussays:

Not to that point, no. But if you see someone every week for a few months, obviously you develop some bond. Still, the escort does not expect anything if you do not see her, as you are not her only source. With SB often you are. So she should be able to rely on her allowance being steady as soon as she makes herself available.

Just wanted to say that there is a difference between escorts and SBs. It’s a matter of intent and feelings.

Kore13says:

It’s hard to spot, but when it’s there, it actually makes a big difference.

Anonymoussays:

@Kore
…intent and feelings is a very female thing to say. No matter how complicated intents and feelings are, she either puts out or she does not. She is either compensated or she does not. There could be millions underlying circumstances that have little influence on the outcome…

SDaddysays:

The blog has gotten stale I would say.

So I noticed that I got favorited by a girl whose Profile Pic showed her tongue sticking out. Who the f*ck would think that is attractive or sexy ? Unfortunately for her she is not attractive in any way shape or form . There should be a vetting service for newbies to have someone critique their profile . We all know that it won’t be done here .

Anonymoussays:

A tongue sticking out is a girl saying she loves to suck dick and swallows. They can’t say that on their profile so they have to give you visual cues. Dude don’t you watch porn? That’s the position they take for the money shot as you splooge all over their mouth, lips, teeth and tongue.

High School is when these sluts begin their real education in life. They are only good for three things: an open mouth, pussy, and bunghole.

SDaddysays:

ick ! I don’t get the fascination with splooging someone . I like to place it out of sight as deeply in a vagina as I can. I have no desire to watch it flow . I did enough of that as a kid-on on the pages of Playboy

Anonymoussays:

Well if you like the disappearing act then she can swallow every last drop. Personally I like to watch how slowly it dribbles from the mouth to the chin then to the floor. Then make her clean it up as you get back in bed, grab the remote, and turn on TV to see if football is on.

Not all muslims are radicals…

sugar baby monkeysays:

i wrote “muslims”? @elaine really, i thought you were a bit more intelligent

yougottabekiddingmesays:

I agree w Kore and Elaine

I also wouldnt consider intimacy or companionship w an SD as “servicing” him.

Mostly though, I think this post is intended to excite fear of an entire group of people when only a small fraction are radical, and an even smaller fraction are terrorists. One is more likely to die in a mass shooting or workplace violence by a white American man. In that, why not ask how many SB would consider dating a white American man…being that, statistically speaking, they are more likely to go batshit crazy and shoot people than even the most hardened j1had1st.

Of course no one wants to date a terrorist, genius. Not a Muslim terrorist, a white American terrorist, a Christian terrorist, not any kind of terrorist. Quite flawed to make the association as if dating a Muslim means dating a terrorist.

One possibility is that @Jay’s has sent you a video of her bouncing boobs. Another (and more probable) possibility is that you are simply talking shit.

Have a nice day :-).

proble issays:

come on slim fast fatty, you can do better than that

Jaybird923says:

LMAO For God’s sake. With all the things to lie about to impress people on a sugar blog why would I pick this. I could make up stories about flying to exotic locales, I could lie about shopping sprees, fancy cars SD provides for me, My substantial allowance, but no I choose real boobs. That makes a lot of sense. :-))

Davesays:

one day ill realize that i was wrong because i will give birth to a daughter and some SD will get her knocked up and ill have to take care of the baby because he is locked up for throwing her out of his car.

Anonymoussays:

Dave is a strange name for a woman.

The Real Davesays:

look up Princess Jasmen, real name jasmen nichole. this was a doozy .. her place stunk of sweat and marijuana . she claims to be a model. most models on tv do not have ” live free or die” tatted on their stomach . while in mid sex doggy style she got a call from her mom who was about to come over and drop off her dog . talk about a boner killer. so i made an excuse to go to the bathroom and bolted …. she was blowing up my phone demanding the money.. what nerve

Anonsays:

Such a non exhibite of a real SD mantra call there Dave. You exude nothing more than a limited liabity policy of what SA started out as to avoid.

No worries, if a few encounter you, with a self respect that will unearth after meeting you…they will have your DNA tracked down, your car rental (when used), your tag, I would say your semen (but we all know it’s lacking), and any other existent hair trace available, bc we can almost guarantee your bald. Let the ladies test drive you on once, and based on performance, they will will be calling the police for their money back, for a refund.

Anonsays:

You are not packing and if they have any discernment, since you are so certain that they are money hungry, trained dogs don’t bark anymore. I guess you don’t speak Dutch, because they only know dutch commands and they can tell you don’t speak their language out of the gate. Got your multivitamin out Dave? You will need it moving forward. Soy sauce and couture cookies of wisdom of cheap skate plates, can’t help you now son. Long horn?

Yeah, it’s not Daves steak house. Because Dave can’t fake steak. Dave is like a chia pet. Cha, cha chia! Now, in new Dave variety with miracle grow. ____miracle grow is now on back order, however our Dave variety will be delivered via free shipping and handling of you act now, money back guarantee. Why is this offered in his commercial ladies? Because, they know you will need it. Any further questions? Eyes peeled, legs closed.

jaybirds prized charities that she donates to include , ” maximum security wives”, “blow up boobs for you” , “the social security swindle”,
and “i brake for old hairy man balls”

no_uglies_platonics_scammers_rinserssays:

Revenge of the Rinser

I met a POT last week. She wants to gain trust/get to know me before we can seal the deal. So I said fine; you won’t get allowance, but we can go on platonic dates. We were supposed to meet up Saturday but canceled due to car issues (red flag). So, we were supposed to have dinner today (Sunday).

Last minute, she wanted to confirm if she’s NOT going to get allowance. I was already on my way and I confirmed with her. After that, text silence. I waited 5 min and I split. Mind you, it took me 1-h to get there. On the way home, there was a huge traffic jam. I was moving 3 miles per hour. I decided to exit the highway and find a place to eat. The traffic was still bad. I had to take a big detour to get home. All in all, I wasted 5 hours plus 1 hour to get ready.

The upshot is, I did not waste money on this POT. She was a good actress: pretending she did not care for the allowance; limited number of sex partners.

I enjoyed reading your (old) posts. Now I know why you did what you did. I should contact 10 POTs on the site and tell them they’ll get 2k just for showing up. Then I do the text silence thingy!

Jaybird923says:

Wouldn’t it make more sense to do that the girl who stood you up instead of someone who hasn’t wronged you? How would making someone else feel the same way you felt teach the person who flaked on you a lesson?

they wont believe $2k , do $400 for a coffee date . they will drool and . make sure they also have to drive 30 to 45 min

no_uglies_platonics_scammers_rinserssays:

@ The Real Dave

Yeah, 400 is more reasonable. Good suggestion…thanks!

Kore13says:

@No Why didn’t you meet somewhere closer to you? If there’re so many flaky girls around, wouldn’t it be better to choose a place much closer and wait until she says she’s on the way?

For my first meet, i was 3hrs late because of some rail issues, so the train made a huge detour and stop at another city. It was very embarrasing, but I let him know everything that was going on – he had to make a 3 hour drive to meet me and it was the least I could do.

Anonymoussays:

U probably already sent her too many angry messages. Otherwise, u could have just texted her, you changed your mind about allowance. Tell her to meet you, so she has to drive. Keep texting with her, as if you worry she will flake.
Obviously, once she shows up to collect 300, neither you nor 300 are there.

Anonymoussays:

Yikes. As a SB, it’s a red flag when there is no allowance given before sex. It’s pretty average to expect that 1) A SB will not have sex without being given an allowance. Period. A POT who has a problem with giving before getting is salty, they’re not sugar daddy material. As a young female, it is a huge risk to engage in an intimate situation with no guarantee of being taken care of. If a POT becomes irate when denied immediate sex, they’re probably a salty fucking jackass. And since you lead on single moms in order to release your pent up aggression, I reckon that these girls who have stood you up did so in their best interest. You don’t seem like a safe and secure person to be around. Sugar babies deserve to be well taken care of – and that means feeling safe and secure.

Correct. Just get them going on kegel and you’re good to go.

Anonymoussays:

Don’t allow your SBs to reel you into their daily fiscal, and other, life challenges beyond the arrangement.

Anonsays:

@ Jay

We see that you are still a desolate cat lady with your comments of single mom, welfare living, Medicaid speech of ignorance.

Obviously you are not educuated with the billionaires and investing philanthropists of today’s society setting the new ground rules that you cannot compete with. Called, Mark Zuckerburg and his wife, Bill Gates and his wife. Setting up foundations and avenues for the less fortunate. Yes, there are the inevitable tax credits that come along with that, no different than the free meal on the corporate e company credit card that the men here act as though the high cost meal will break their bank account on a sugar date, when we all know it is a write off on company expenses.

At least the higher net worth, valued, successful me. And women who have paved a way donate and give back into the communities with millions that they do not sweat, Nickle and dime, nor make the less fortunate feel more like a victim at the end of the day, such as the likes of you.

How about start investing than showing off your bolt on titties in a cheap ass K-mart rendering of a support bra that my grandmother wore 50 something years ago, after she was docked a days wage. And by the way, she owned her own her own business, so a cheap come back of your mouth will brush your words under the rug I. A pitiful response, while I tell you that you drool and spit, like a baby in futile attempt of a tantrum.

Surprise me for once with something I don’t know. Good help is so hard to find these days, isn’t it. Just a clown in the streets reforming her tricks is what you remind me of.

Anonymoussays:

Wow…dude. You should not drink so much on Sunday. Friday, Saturday…fine. But not on Sunday.

Anonsays:

Bro, check your self, and take inventory of your house before you try to sniff out mine.

I haven’t had a drop of a drink besides a soda. Looks like the usual, first one to cry wolf or point blame is the guiltiest one of all. Good try there brother, good try. You must be Jay’s side kick. Be careful of the company you keep.

Sorry, dude. I was kinda hoping it was just too much wine with your dinner.
Lay off the grass, man. Even if it is legal, it is not that good for you.

Anonsays:

Oh look, another attempt to try to try and evaluate my mental stability that surpasses yours, with nothing needed but common sense.

I know you like me, and I know you wish it came as easy for you, without you havering to be inebriated. I don’t fear you not fault you and by way of your apology, I see that I excite you. Good to know.

FatB'StardSAsays:

That was the definition of an epic putdown!

The FatB’Stard is impressed even though I really did not understand all of it.

Jaybird923says:

@Fake Fatty of course you don’t understand all of it you’re an idiot. Even though her writing style is convoluted and verbose it requires a certain level of intelligence to pull off and from what I’ve seen from your prior post you fall short of the mark.

Maybe one day it will be possible to buy bolt on IQ points, until then you should be careful of calling your intellectual superiors idiots.

Have a nice day :-).

Jaybird923says:

@Fake Fatty ROTFLMAO … intellectual superior. I needed a good laugh. Have a nice days :-))

Jaybird923says:

Save your tirade for someone who gives a shit. I didn’t say all single moms were on government assistance. I said if she was that hard up for real there are all those resources available to her. The only reason someone would get that offend by a comment that is true and easily proven is if it hit a little to close to home.

And by the way my bra probably cost more than one of your whole outfits. I could care less about designer clothes and shoes but I don’t do cheap under garments they all come from SAKS(sometimes Bloomingdale’s) that is my only vice.

Also I detest cats and I give to charities I care about, two in particular. And please come up with something original the bolt on tits is not really an insult if I don’t have implants.

Anonsays:

Baby girl Jay,

It obviously hits close to your home since you brought it up. Understandable, there are charities out there that are there to help you. However, in the course of speaking out for your own interpersonal needs, you appear to frown upon the ones who could use a female voice in their favor the most.

With this being said, the bolt on comment is without a doubt a red yawning phrase that has tired us all to tears of boredomn by now, with no true originality.

Yet, you offer nothing better. 2 stores? Really? Mine come from Europe and price is not an issue no reason do my SD’s bicker nor question, but provide. I find it truly unfortunate that you have only 2 options to give you availability.

Yet,when I give and when I mentor and when I raise up women who are less fortunate, and invest in them, I give them options they never dreamed possible, without gageing where they think they worth nor where their present clothing represents them.

Still, a bitter cat lady you resemble, trying to be a head hog in this farm. Your flavorant and burnt attitude smokes like bacon burning when dealing with @Kore and a lady you present with great err and inefficiency. Good try, ol’ girl. But you are tired tired and lame with the likes of the rest in redundancy.

Jaybird923says:

I have no issue with up lifting women. I just have no sympathy for her and those like her. I’m sorry I just don’t and nothing you write is going to change that. Her kids on the other hand I feel sorry for.

Everyone has causes they support and believe in that isn’t one of mines. And no it doesn’t hit close to home. I don’t have kids and I wasn’t raised in a single parent household.

If I have two stores I can depend on to find what I need in my size why would I need more than that? Good for you SDs pay to import bras from Europe. I pay for my own and can purchase European bras at those stores no need to import. Plus I have no desire to impress you. You’re just some lady who post things on the blog occasionally.

Have a nice day :-).

P.S. I invented the phrase “Have a nice cup of “Shut the fuck up”” as well bitch.

TVC15says:

You don’t like kitties?!?

TVC15says:

Last comment was @Jay.

@FakeFatty:

I did give you a link: it’s thedirty.com.

“P.S. I invented the phrase “Have a nice cup of “Shut the fuck up”” as well bitch.”

Did not:

“In the early 2000s, an image of a World War II-era soldier (shown below, left) with the superimposed text “How about a nice cup of shut the fuck up?” began circulating the web, especially on the social networking site MySpace.”

I am positive that you will pay no heed…but the more you comment on @y’s avatars the uglier photos she will use. Such is the feminist calling of this @y character…

The Real Davesays:

ok is michelin more fitting ?

Anonsays:

‘@ Dave

No worries, we will just take your limp dick and bolt it between your eyes, to make you the best Unicorn version of a man that we can in the meantime. We may not have a bag of dicks, Mr. Helen Keller, but we can make you the mascot, as you wish, with no trouble a tall. Believe that!

This has got to be the saddest profile I have across in this website. Anyone willing to help her out?

ed4b0af8

Jaybird923says:

You’ve got to be kidding me… SMH

Anonymoussays:

She is just a common variety money-hungry girl who will suck money out of you pressing the pity buttons and giving promises to return them when she is “finally back on her feet” – which, as we all know, will be never.
Probably has a loser BF with sleeve tattoos and a collection of needles who she wants you to support.
What is sad about it?

Joshsays:

“What I’m looking for

Deleting profile.. What I’m looking for isn’t here. Unfortunatelly”

Interesting indeed!

Jaybird923says:

I personally think it’s a ploy to extract money from men who are stupid enough to fall for it and men who will feel guilty about all the bad people in her life and not want to be included on this list by asking for something in return.

I find it hard to believe that a single mother with two kids in the US of A is that hard up. If you are a deadbeat with kids the world is your oyster. Section 8 housing, foodstamps, Medicaid, welfare, etc. there is no reason

*pictures lol

Joshsays:

Don’t worry about my photo @batshit.

Kore13says:

I like this one fine…

What will transpire will be the greatest transfer of wealth outside of socialist appropriation. When credit system seizes up all of the asset bubbles in stocks, real estate etc. will pop.
If you’re over the age of 45 and lived in Texas in the 80s you felt the pain

The Real Davesays:

Someone made a platonic arrangement with the blimp below ? I call b.s.

Another Anonymoussays:

@ Anonymous

Everyone will suffer.

Probably not everyone. There will be most likely a small group of people who will do fine and actually enjoy their increased power over other humans. And of course everybody hopes to be a memver of that group.

@99Problemsbutabitchisone Remember, there’s a hot/crazy chart for women. 😉 But this wasn’t me. I think I’ve only posted twice anonymously and that was months ago.

The Real Davesays:

There … Read my answer

The Real Davesays:

Required expectation scale :

Single mom : can be no more than minimal
Fat woman like the one below : should pay man , negative expectation ?
Over 40: a happy meal and lots of makeup and she has to give up pussy on the first date .
Married woman : call up the husband and ask for a pussy review

Anonymoussays:

“Married woman : call up the husband and ask for a pussy review”

LOL!

When the economy crashes again and ATM’s are locked up only spitting out 60 euros a day a la Greece, will Sugar Babies exchange sexual favors for barter i.e. food, cigarettes and liquor? This was the case for German Sugar babies after WWII

Anonymoussays:

Probably

Anonymoussays:

probably yes but a lot of guys will be doing the same all you have do is go to crack row in any major city and you will see they don’t care what they do to their bodies as long as they get enough for their fix so don’t think only women will suffer every one will

Anonymoussays:

ROTFLMAO

TVC15says:

Credit where credit’s due, that’s actually pretty funny.

tomsays:

Actually really tired of meeting SB who’s photos were before they gained 10-30 lbs. Seriously hot girls who then go to food farm and think it is ok to still post pics when they were slim and now they are fat.

So you got dumped by a SD because you were too fat and so now you switch it around that you’re the SD, all right.

Joshsays:

Correction…I was supposed to give HER the hotel address…

Anonsays:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You are a balloon, wanting to get get blown in the ass and felt like a school bus driver getting dumped with no pump. It’s like 50 cent homey. Let’s focus on the future and not reflect on the past. Time heals all wounds and you too can find a new boy toy on the site. If she looks to perfect to be a female, it’s probably a trany. Bc all the men on the blog dog real women out and fuck the trany’s in the ass, like Dave does.

Have you boys napped long enough now in thinking the rest of us readers are toothless wonders to your so called superior education of a groupon?

Anonymoussays:

Kore, good topic change. I tend to dump a lot of them. It’s mostly for lack of effort and/or personality deficiencies.

Kore13says:

No details?

Here’s one a POT told me.

He was at the train station to pick her up, but the moment she got off the train, he realized that she was a little girl in an adult body.
Figuring she just might need time to settle down, they went to the hotel to have a chat, but she was still so insecure about everything that he took her by the hand and brought her to a taxi.
He looked for a taxi driver that was married, had children and came across very sweet and paid him 300 bucks to take her back home.

Strange, maybe you are reading a different blog?

Se did mentioned him before.

Kore13says:

@elaine 😉 Thanks. 😀

Anonymoussays:

No she didn’t she always mentions her first SD the one who was upset because she showed up to a function with the wrong type of purse. And she always mention “POTS” she talks to but there’s always a reason why she didn’t meet them. But I expect you to take up for her since she’s the only one who does that for you.

I spend just as much time on the blog as she does I just rarely comment it wouldn’t be thzt difficult to find the post that validate my post but you couldn’t find one that validate yours.

Do you end up meeting every POT that writes you all the time? Don’t need time to consider if it’s worth investing in them? Or them investing in meeting with you?

IHF2030says:

I think it is time for a new blog topic.

Anonsays:

How about the following?
Is sugar corrosive?
Its not sugar, its saccharin.
Market pricing for sugar.
Are there different grades and ratings of sugar?
Sugar holidays. What do expect.
Sugar can cause cavities in your wallet. Preventive steps.

Eating Out. How to do it properly.
Tongue Twisters. How to suck less.
Mood Swings? Group Therapy Solutions.
At a loose end? Knots for beginners to keep you strapped in.

Anonymoussays:

@Kore @Elaine Of course it had to be the two dumbest bitches on the blog feeding the troll. Why don’t you guys give him your email address and you can have this discussion off site and spare the rest of us. Since you two are the only ones interested in what he has to say.

elainesays:

Because every now and then it is amusing to expose his stupidity.

Anonymoussays:

This has nothing to do with exposing his stupidity. Everyone on the blog is already aware that he’s a fake seeking attention. Even the stunt yesterday about exposing girls he slept with was fake and was only done because he wasn’t getting the attention he wanted and you guys took the bait because you’re as much of an attention seeker as he is.

what does growing balls have to do with thinking you’re useless?

problem issays:

exposed, need more be said!Not

Kore13says:

All this whining around about him. It’s kinda stupid to keep announcing over and over how you’re going to ignore Dave. Just do it without an announcement. No?

Or better yet, be realistic and don’t act like his BS won’t catch some replies every now and then. Just ignore what you feel like ignoring and if you have to reply to him, just not the same way he does. Is that so hard to do?

problem issays:

@problem is
right, nothing more needs be said

Kore13says:

He needs absolutely 0 provocation to come up with things to write. So, will it work to ignore him on a blog with no moderation? All it takes is a new moniker or perhaps a new IP addie for him to continue his trolling…

And hey! Stupid question anyway, as you seem to forget I am only an ugly fat, old hag.

So I wouldn’t DARE to ask for payment, are you kidding ?!
I have to OFFER payment to desirable young God’s such as yourself!

The Real Davesays:

Skirting around the question? If you offer your companionship for an expectation , then you’re an escort/h00ker . Any other Wes or words for it means you are lying and expressing false advertisement . You’re just as guilty as a scammer

Elaine you’re a scammer .. You’re not stating what you explicitly offer . If it’s vague , but yet YOU have an expectation , then you are a thief and a con artist . Welcome to the club !

Anonsays:

Oh look, Dave is like “Global Warming”, stRted in the 80’s as the “we are the world campaign”.. Given enough time, it becomes an intricate detail that the global economy can monopolize on, on a global basis, make real world news under faux news, and pool more funds to the given governmental sector, under an alternate name. Wow, nothing new under the sun nor the world of sugar. Scandinaviah under ancient trade with a new name. Only the strong survive.

Come all yew, to mock my words and say I need to be in a padded room as usual bc I bit part of the cool crowd. Folks, if you haven’t noticed, only the “cool” crowd of fake personnas speak to each other here in engaging conversations in order to turn heads and read lips. It’s the whisper challenge. Only retards apply within.

Anonymoussays:

Yes, that is so true… touching Dave you can get some pre-historic disease.
Something that Neanderthal Men could have. Prehistoric, primitive and forgotten. Modern medicine will be helpless. These poor women he fucked… Must be terrible, being fucked by a reptile, a lizard. Something that does not have anything human, mammalian even, inside.

Gives the greediest of people including the Wall Street Banksters and academic whores a platform which enriches and empowers them

Shackles the strong and free nations for the benefit of those who seek their downfall

Anonymoussays:

Naming here women you fucked…is the lowest of lowest denominator.
Dave, you should look Wikipedia: “Dante, Inferno”.
I cannot think of a lower insect than you. I would not touch something like you without a barge pole and a pair of gloves… for the fear of getting leprosy.

The Real Davesays:

You are correct. I don’t want to catch your leprosy.

Anonsays:

leprosy man. Dunn Donna Dunn! You go Dave, Cape wearing bald man and all. Sport your cock proudly, you fungi wearing man cave ape you. Show us your moves and how to capture an animal so prehistoric as yourself that we will take DNA samples, of Dave, to make sure you are never reproduced again. I applaud Budweiser guy Dave, you have saved the new race by sharing your stupidity.

The Real Davesays:

Lower than selling your soul and body for new heels yet claiming you are high class ?

The Real Davesays:

@ Admirer . Sharelle has a plate in her head . This what she told me . The last guy she dated, by her own free will , beat her to a pulp to a point that her facial bones were crushed . I’m sure he was the hawt guy at the time . The feminazis won’t say a word about her bad choices . I let them out if car gently . My only goal is to extract the pussy which is my God given right . God said ” man shall not be alone “. God did say woman can screw over man and be a single mom , and be a whore . You women had your directives and you chose to disobey them . Suffer the consequences

I’m sure you being a single independent mom will be delighted in licking my bunghole for a new pair of red bottoms .

Kore13says:

😀 Oh come on. Don’t stoop to this shit, Lemons. It’s more impressive to be able to afford a SB than scam for them.

The Real Davesays:

Why would I want to impress a third world villager from the outskirts of Mumbai who if not for the kindness of German immigration , she would be crouching in a outhouse somewhere tending to the flies on the cow that her husband owns ?

Believe it or not, I feel sorry that you obviously weren’t treated well back in highschool as well. You put yourself on the same level as them and think it’s worth bragging about like they do.

The Real Davesays:

Could you please educate the uninformed as to what your level you are ? Selling your “companionship” ?

Another Anonymoussays:

@ Cryptic

Bingo. Equality at workplace and hypergamy in private life is a poisonous combination. It virtually guarantees there will be a large group of poor unhappy man and a large group of unhappy accomplished women. The former cannot get any attention in the public discourse and is virtually invisible, but latter hijacked the public sphere.

The Real Davesays:

Women , do me a favor , read up on the Israelis Samson option . So f-ing psychotic yet brilliant . The Israelis refuse to give up what they have conquered at this point at all costs at any cost . The price any nation will pay to surround them and conquer them is so at this point , suicide is probably the more painless option . At this point in the war in feminism , the woman are the invading hordes and the men hold the Samson option . Tread carefully females .

[treads carefully, rides cock carousel in a burka]

The Real Davesays:

Ends up beheaded or begging beta male to marry her at age 32

Cryptic Anomalysays:

@Josh “Marriage is less and less an option for women…not because they don’t want it…it’s the men this time who don’t want it anymore…most Western women are NOT marriage material…

Women must work all through their lives just like a man…seems pretty equal to me.”

Exactly right, equality is not really shaping up too well for women, which is why Feminism keeps trying to move the goal posts to make equality more palatable. It is Female nature to want to be taken care of, nothing wrong with that, the problem is it clashes with Feminism and equality and having to work for the rest of your life. And for anyone who thinks I am wrong then why does this site exist?

Also the whole bullshit debate about equal pay, women make the same money men do, they just don’t always put in the Over Time and don’t always get promoted because quite often they just aren’t good enough, hence why they now push for quotas to make it “equal” again. There isn’t any such thing as equality in nature, you do well or you don’t, end of story.

So true. You are not doing well my friend, so get off the cock carousel. You and Real Dave and Fake Dave and Fatty Bastard, while your at it. Or go have a three some.

Anonsays:

Fake Dave is the real Dave. You know and I know. 6 one way, half a dozen the other, same sheep in wools clothing. Cry wolf Dave, one more time. Please, for the fake of it, cry wolf so I can laugh my ass off again at your bull. This is getting so good, I made popcorn already in wait!

@YGTBKM 😀 Shh.Don’t ruin the only perk that comes with MPD.

yougottabekiddingmesays:

hehe…k…lips sealed…like a virgin.

The Real Davesays:

My my my how modern day women get angry when something happens to them that they do not like . Men do not like to be rinsed , divorce raped, treated like shit and not respected . Welcome to the world you created and welcome to the backlash .

SA nik: sharelle11 real name sharelle Davis . Claims to be a model , lives in a high rise apartment . Modelling consists of giving out freebies then asking to have her high dollar apartment rent paid for . Feel free to message her guys she gives out the free sample . I bet her parents are proud . She was #2 on the Dave train .

Neither the Tumblr crowd nor the “regulars” give a shit about sanity on the blog to discuss their own respective ideas. Hoping, praying and trying to kick the GURU out is their top fantasy.

elainesays:

Now I’m a little afraid that you overestimate your own importance here…
Why would anyone want to kick you out?!

Since you are the GURU, and always have your mouth full of “sanity on the blog”, maybe now it is time to react on the fact that a very young girl get’s exposed by her real name, instead of focussing at non existent conspiracy theories?

Being a near whore on a silly website is a choice.
Being publicly exposed by an irresponsible idiot is not!

Maybe somebody should inform her…..probably she has some nice info about you too. Or maybe a father or a brother who is not amused…..

The Real Davesays:

No you are wrong . Being on a near wh0re website and pretending not to be one and yet want to ride the coat tails of the patriarchy income is wrong and not a choice . When your premise is a lie then you deserve your fate !

It’s nothing new. Yawn!

The Real Davesays:

Sugar baby money poo. I have no f-ing clue what you are taking about . I’m a North American domesticated SA member . I speak a little Russian but fluent in Spanish . I never claimed to live in Russia you blond airhead .

rembodlersays:

This here used to be a lot more entertaining. Even insults were somewhat intelligent. I hope the “Dave/Real Dave” infection will take its course here. Kinda like a flu, it cannot be medicated (or, it is too much to hope).
I just scanned thru… there used to be some useful stuff from people who were a part of the SA crowd. Stories, questions, ruminations. Not anymore. Now it is mostly elementary-school-type exercise in rudeness.
Silly, really -considering that (at least some of the) people here must be adults and could use they time and energy more wisely…

The Real Davesays:

You sound as if the only friends you had in life joined SA .

rembodlersays:

Listen… I embrace the SA concept as it works for me. Obviously, one’s SA endeavors are not something you can casually mention to people at the office party, who might have daughters of the “SA age”. So I used to use this blog to vent. That was my “excuse” for being here.
If you continue with insults (and you probably will), I will disengage. Your character does not interest me all that much, no offense.

Would like to see the “quality” of these conquests of yours. They are not saying it but the rest of them are curious too. Just won’t admit it. You and I are the most honest bloggers here Real Dave.

sugar baby monkeysays:

ohhhhh @the real dave you’re so taco mexican! Russia is in the other side of the world, man, the country which is next to you is US, not Russia. @elaine is right, too much tacos in your diet developed some type of a new illnes perhaps similar to schizophrenia

The Real Davesays:

Look at Kore’s neck. It has a 45 year old female runaway between the tendons flexing . that upper neck and face has taken many a semen landing in the last 30 years . She had to flex in order to tighten the loose turkey neck. I would take a gander and state that she should be a sugar mama not a so called baby hooker

When you start calling yourself “sir” there is really something seriously wrong….

Better go see a doctor and start taking meds!

Keith Richardssays:

I nominate Real Dave for President!

Joshsays:

@Kore13

“Not always.. Rejection for women doesn’t happen that often (thanks to men) and they might not have the practice in dealing with it as well.”

This is how you differentiate yourself from other women here. You talk like a normal human being with a female gender instead of writing your comments based on feminist–or worse sarcastic feminist–taking points.

@Monkey At least don’t slip if you’re going to have a conversation with yourself.

Anonymoussays:

Actually 12:23 and 12:46 was me not monkey.

Kore13says:

Oh, ok. Thanks Anonymous.

Anonymoussays:

@kore13 i just was writing something that someone told me in addition i didn’t say that you were all bones like a teenage boy, it was anonymous and i didn’t agree with this because i really don’t know nothing about your body, only that you’re indian lol, but usually when men say to a girl “you’re all bones like a teenage boy” it’s because they like the fat. i saw many times, guys saying this to girls with normal bodies but by far they were not anorexic like many models are actually

sugar baby monkeysays:

@kore13 i just was writing something that someone told me in addition i didn’t say that you were all bones like a teenage boy, it was anonymous and i didn’t agree with this because i really don’t know nothing about your body, only that you’re indian lol, but usually when men say to a girl “you’re all bones like a teenage boy” it’s because they like the fat. i saw many times, guys saying this to girls with normal bodies but by far they were not anorexic like many models are actually

Joshsays:

*talking points.

Anonymoussays:

“You talk like a normal human being…”

Haha more like a human being that has a couple of extra chromosomes. Give it a break Josh you’re just trying to stir the pot. Everyone know women get rejected less than men, this isn’t some great revelation.

jaja para qe a tu mama le tire bien ricooo

The Real Davesays:

Where’s refund gap? She’s still riding her high horse ?

Admirersays:

Oh she’s around Real Dave. The usual suspects have been running amok around here while someone was pretending to be you acting like a beta mangina. They all thought they “converted” you because you “professed” that you don’t want to act like a “jerk” anymore and wanted to look for deeper relationships with only one Mexican SB. LOL!

The more I read the feminazi diatribes on this site the more I want to scam . Holy beejezus these 2 bit hussies can’t even whore like normal hookers

Kore13says:

What happened LemonAIDS? Get rejected again?

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlsBObg-1BQ]

The Real Davesays:

Why is it that when you Indian skanks get off the plane at Laguardia , all of a sudden you starts spreading them legs for white boys then after your arranged marriage you love to tell us what a great culture you have ?

Kore13says:

Does anything stay stable in your head, Lemons?

Anonymoussays:

The reason Indian women want to fuck white guys is for validation. Most Indian women are super conscious of their darker skins.

Seeking whiter skin is one of the oft-repeated critera in indian personal ads. While Indian men may have a bit of a problem finding attractive white women, white men are not that picky as to who they fuck. So Indian woman get an easier time with validating themselves.

The Real Davesays:

I see you got your advanced degree in YouTube studies .

Kore13says:

@Anon The women who want whiter skin are probably the ones closer to the Indian culture and want to date(?) Indian men.
Also Indian women are generally seen as prostitutes for being seen with white men by conservative Indian people.

I don’t understand, then, how it would make sense to whiten your skin for people who don’t care about it, have sex with them and risk damaging your reputation within your culture.

Then again, if an Indian woman is in a country where there are plenty of white people and is liberal (not traditional), she probably wouldn’t feel the pressure to be whiter and the chances of dating someone white are probably higher.

Also, quite a few Indian people my from school ended up with Indians or people who look similar in white countries.

The reality is most horney white boys will fuck any free pussy…as the game with white women takes lots of their energy…so side Indian pussy is a good thing for them.

Kore13says:

@Anon This isn’t happening in Germany as far as I know. Maybe in the U.S. where there are many second generations and a relatively large community established with family, friends, etc. has already been established.

This does not happen in Germany because Germans are racist. The only reason they are toleranting foreigners is to support their aging population.

The Real Davesays:

That’s what happened to me at work .this Indian woman in procurement was practically begging me to fuck her . Little did I know 2 weeks later she was getting married to Doctor Kumar , arranged , and on Facebook she was all dressed up with the dot on her head pretending to be Mrs. Good wife

Kore13says:

They’re not racist. A few, like anywhere else in the world. I’ve done fine here.

Kore13says:

They have low tolerance for BS. Being overly emotional and is considered weak and stupid in some ways. If most of the people on the blog (myself included) were to relate and ‘argue’ IRL the same way in Germany, it wouldn’t come across that well (to understate). It’s a culture difference – doesn’t make them racist.

Kore it’d do you best to stop arguing with the over aged woman who can’t get sugar. She’s got too much rage because of all of this and will just end up upsetting you.

The Real Davesays:

Every girl wants a sugar daddy until daddy wants the sugar then they claim they aren’t sluts.

Kore13says:

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with acting like a bitch…However, as women learn feminist formulations they start to believe that it is OK to act like a bitch…”

@Josh Someone trying to defend themselves is totally fine, but it makes a difference how and for what. If some people are over emotional and feel offended by relatively small things, for me, their aggression is unattractive/repulsive. (Perhaps those aggro females from Fundude’s links were also trying to protect their butch honour?)

I’ve also mentioned before how it’s often seen as ok for women to behave any emotional way they want – whereas if a man were to behave the same way, he will get most likely get called a pussy, etc. Just that it is a part of my culture to avoid certain behaviourisms and I follow that for the most part – it isn’t gender biased.

With women, it’s a tad bit more annoying since it comes up more often that they sometimes react to things that weren’t even meant as provocation. Sometimes, I feel like this is the start of a grudge they don’t let go of until they win (whatever that means). Men OTOH typically stick to other methods of dealing with jealousy, etc.

Gawd… Your jokes suck more than you do on old hairy man balls

Kore13says:

That wasn’t a joke. Just thought it was funny you didn’t realize it was a quote and you reaction to it. 😉

Kore13says:

“Well it would bother me even more if they were nice!
Having spend time and conversations and even making plans to travel and meet with a nice person, who then once in a sudden turns silent, is even more annoying!

I don’t even start conversations with arrogant or otherwise unpleasant people, so it would never come that far anyway.”

@elaine Ghosting after making plans to meet is absolutely rude. Sometimes I need time to think things over and I just wait – it shows me how relaxed or not they are. Mostly, I tell them the reason for this as well.

In general, if they show me they are interested in a reply, then I make the effort – but I don’t do it for people who don’t come across as ‘serious’ about realizing the relationship.

“Ghosting after making plans to meet is absolutely rude”
Absolutely!
But ok, it is annoying but probably part of the game.

What surprised me though, and make me post the question, is that after ghosting they just pop up after some time with “Hello how are you?”.

The Real Davesays:

Don’t you get the hint you old hag ? What’s happening is that old wrinkly balls wants you to drop the price of the scabby vag before he flies you out to the senior citizen center for some hubba hubba. Go get some Vaseline asap.

some persons here comment in a compulsive way

The Real Davesays:

What kind of feminazi mumbo jumbo is that ?

FatB'StardSAsays:

@Josh wrote:

“At Home Depot men and women get paid the same…guess who EXCLUSIVELY helps loading/unloading?

At my workplace, one of my colleagues is out so many days a month it’s not even funny…either she is sick…or her new born is sick…or she has a doctor’s appointment…she gets the same pay as her male counterparts at the same grade level. Guess who covers for her?”

I think @Josh just gave away the fact that he works on the loading dock at Home Depot.

@Josh

Things are much more clear now. I can understand why you are on SA

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0gaYyNk7QA&t=9m15s]

Have a nice day :-)..

Kore13says:

@Fb He’s pretty funny, actually. Also, thanks for ‘taking my side,’ with TVC (also @Josh) and Jay. I try to avoid replying to them so it doesn’t turn into a bitchfest like I’ve seen it happen on the blog. Just wanted to avoid grouping up and name calling… I’ve failed at that. :/

“I try to avoid replying to them so it doesn’t turn into a bitchfest like I’ve seen it happen on the blog. ”

When? I’ve seen none of them mention you but you keep talking about them and bringing up their names in conversations they are not involved in.

Kore13says:

@anon When was the last time I said, “@Person1, @Person2, you’re right, s/he’s a *#!&, s/he only [totally off topic nonsense]?”

I don’t see the blog as a popularity contest and I feel like doing that only serves to create a ganging up to that ends in exchanging insults. If I refer to someone, it’s mostly because they’d previously brought up a good point worth discussing. Otherwise, I don’t need ‘help’ or ‘back up’ criticizing them directly.

This movie has been played in Japan already. Men stopped wanting to get married and women started claiming that they did not want to get married anyway.

The Real Davesays:

I got messaged by a 27 year old tatted up skank who graduated from woman’s studies @ case western ! So this slut spent $60k per year or should I say got a so called female enabler scholarship at a university I order to make less than $20 k and be a near slore on a hooker website .

Anonsays:

Or I won’t kiss you because I will maul you and I will show you when I kiss you everything that is right and what it is like to love again and you better pray I one is watching. Take a deep breathe. And a stranger that is helpless is no more.

The Real Davesays:

Which one of you faux whores has been impersonating a beta version of me? Also , I’ve had 3 ip addresses banned … So I got a new one … F U .. I’m like the Putin of this blog .. You ain’t stopping the D-train you hoes!

Is it going back to the old @Dave time, sweetheart?

The Real Davesays:

Huh ? When did you go full blown Caitlyn Jenner ?

Admirersays:

Welcome back Real Dave

Anonsays:

At least we know how to protect people we know and those we don’t know at all.

While apparently, you spill everyone’s business in the street and degrade them all. Something eventually has o be stated for Elaine’s class bs. Yours.

If. You were running for President, or a highly offici position..folks of the blog, who me woul. You choose? saves persona? Or Elaine’s?

I rest my case. Privet and privacy amount to everything. Those you know and those you don’t. You slander so any, I woul. Keep you further than. A 10 foot pole. More like a continent or more. Then I would have my own private devise seek you out to keep you chasing your tail and running in circles to keep you far from the likes of me. Grow up Dave. Welcome to life and the reality of what it means to bra real man. The word “protection” has been under rated too long by the likes of you.

Privet means hi in Russian . Vladimir Putin is on SA ?

Valdimirsays:

Дэйв, ты идиот. Любовь.

sugar baby monkeysays:

“Admirer” should be “the real dave” lol

Anonsays:

I attended a Christmas party where I was mildly hit on to remove my coat. And embarrassed as I was to say “hey, I am allergic to live Christmas Trees, not you” I couldn’t say for fear of sounding like a wired existence of a being. But, I no doubt found that, though I am aging, and I give myself very little credit, I was laughed at and acknowledge that when I put effort into my appearance and dress, I am sought out for photo ops.

#iloveyousanta

Bc I am on 6 meds and can’t hear or breathe properly, but I like what I see and hear!

#christmas gift is a naked man in a bow
And second code word is yeahhhh baby,

# Santas little helper

Anonsays:

And for the record. I am on6 meds bc I really am allergic to realchristmas treae,so every year, I spun horse and in rhea me boat. It was far from the man. It’s the fact I can’t function bc I’m on medication that is never in my body and that glorious bright tree is my worst enemy, unless you can bring me some fake mistletoe that I will miss you under. No real or fake money needed. I only kiss based off of real, not fake.

Back in the day Josh basically WAS the blog. You’d have to have been here to know that though.

Joshsays:

I guess @batshit reincarnated as FB. LOL!

Anonymoussays:

Same sh@t, different day…

Anonsays:

Exactly, men calling out women, trying in their lamest attempt. While real men take them home more than once, and keep them as a prized possession in log and if they fear another man is getting to close, they will claim she is lame in bed or knock the other mans lights out with a fist. It only takes one encounter to know at kind of man you haven’t. It’s not rocket science. The ignorant ones are in the lab. The rest are on a rocket ship. Period. Any questions?

Anonymoussays:

Wow what’s this dude smoking lol??

Joshsays:

ROTFLMAO!

Cheezitssays:

Uh… ask @Kore?

Joshsays:

TVC15

“the right to work the same jobs and get paid the same”

At Home Depot men and women get paid the same…guess who EXCLUSIVELY helps loading/unloading?

At my workplace, one of my colleagues is out so many days a month it’s not even funny…either she is sick…or her new born is sick…or she has a doctor’s appointment…she gets the same pay as her male counterparts at the same grade level. Guess who covers for her?

“and the right to control our own bodies.”

Control?…squander is more like it…women’s “control” is EXACTLY how more pussy is circulating for smart men who bang and move on to the fresh crop…while saving their hard-earned incomes. Yes…babyboomers and Gen Xs are screwed…Gen Ys to some extent too…but Millennial men are no fools.

Jaybird923says:

I’ve always been an advocate of equal pay for equal work and raise and bonus being based on performance instead of seniority. A man and a woman can be hired at the same rate but if the man out performs the woman his salary should reflect that at the end of the year.

Same thing for the home depot job, if the job requires heavy lifting and a woman applies for it and is able to do the job equally as well as the guy then she should be compensated equally.

“At Home Depot men and women get paid the same…guess who EXCLUSIVELY helps loading/unloading?”

At my local HD women load and unload. I’ve watched them do some crazy stuff to be able to do it though.

Joshsays:

@Kore,

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with acting like a bitch. If one wants to act like a bitch because she wants to, and she can…then more power to her. As a matter of face, women must act like bitches in certain circumstance to protect their person and honor.

However, as women learn feminist formulations they start to believe that it is OK to act like a bitch…at the while rotating insulting formulations, such as, “you are acting juvenile”, “you live in your momma’s basement”, “you are bitter”, “you have a small penis”, etc.

Joshsays:

*As a matter of fact…

Cryptic Anomalysays:

Feminist Doctrine puts men and women in a no win situation.

If a man is the classic strong silent type than he is emotionally unavailable and too cold, if he is sensitive than he is a wuss and must be used and abused, if he just wants sex he is a sleaze if he wants a relationship he is too needy etc etc

Meanwhile it tells women they can be anything they want to be even if it contradicts itself, a woman can dress like a whore but be a good girl, she can be a whore but be a Princess, she can be independent but still have a man take care of her, she can be tough but fall back on breaking down in tears when the going gets rough.

The end result is men just use them for as long as it amuses them and then move on, Feminism has actually aided men far more than it has aided women, in fact women have less rights now then they used to.

And yet with all of those things women still aren’t happy.

@Jay-In many ways, women used to be looked after, they were placed on pedestals, protected. Not anymore, now they sell themselves in various ways for money.

TVC15says:

Only a minority of lucky women were actually safe and protected, and most of those few had no choice but to accept that protection because they had no other options. Feminism came about because the safety and protection men purportedly offered wasn’t either, and this was true for enough women that it sparked a major social revolution. If women were happy in their cages, feminism would never have happened.

I’m not saying there are no disadvantages to being a modern woman (the simultaneous expectation that you be both sexually available and virginal is the first to come to mind). But I’d rather be free and have control over my body and my life than be chattel.

Women have always sold themselves in various ways. Some sold themselves in marriage some sold themselves to a benefactor and some sold them selves to anyone who had the coin.

The only difference is now women have more options. They can get an education, start a career,start a business, or sell themselves.

TVC15says:

“How to eat, how to maintain existence, is the problem that has confronted woman, as well as man, since the ages dawned for her. Other needs and desires may come later; but the first call of life is for the means of supporting it. To support life it is necessary to have access to the fruits of the earth, either directly – as in the case of the agriculturist – or indirectly, and through a process of exchange as the price of work done in other directions. And in this process of exchange woman, as compared with her male fellow-worker, has always been at a disadvantage. The latter, even where direct access to the earth was denied to him, has usually been granted some measure of choice as to the manner in which he would pay for the necessities the earth produced for him – that is to say, he was permitted to select the trade by which he earned his livelihood. From woman, who has always been far more completely excluded from direct access to the necessities of life, who has often been barred, both by law and by custom, from the possession of property, one form of payment was demanded, and one only. It was demanded of her that she should enkindle and satisfy the desire of the male, who would thereupon admit her to such share of the property he possessed or earned as should seem good to him. In other words, she exchanged, by the ordinary process of barter, possession of her person for the means of existence.

Whether such a state of things is natural or unnatural I do not pretend to say; but it is, I understand, peculiar to women, having no exact counterpart amongst the females of other species. Its existence, at any rate, justifies us in regarding marriage as essentially (from the woman’s point of view) a commercial or trade undertaking.”

@Jay – yes, I just think Cicely expresses the idea particularly well. It’s a great essay that nicely summarizes why feminism had to happen, from the days of the suffragettes.

Jaybird923says:

This maybe hard for some of you guys to believe but some women aren’t getting married because they don’t want to be married. Not all little girls grow up wanting to be a bride.

And as much as some would like to believe that marriage is a dying institution it’s not. Like all things it goes through periods of ups and downs but it’s not going anywhere. Thousands of idiots lining up to do it.

Contrary to Cecily’s nonsense, women throughout history always had the option of not marrying and then had to fend for themselves: the ugly ones and those of ill repute unusually did not marry.

Jaybird923says:

Even the ugly ones married with no problem if they had a significant enough dowry. The problem with fending for yourself was there were very little options available to women of that time. Depending on your social class you either married, became a courtesan, a governess, or a poor relation dependent on a family members generosity (which usually translated to an unpaid indentured servant)

TVC15says:

(1) That’s like saying a person who can’t get a job is exercising their option to not work.

(2) Ugly women and women of ill repute have always been able to get married. There have always been plenty of ugly men and men of ill repute around to marry them. Just look around today, when marriage is optional. It would have been even more true back then, when marriage was almost compulsory.

Anonymoussays:

“If they had enough dowry” is in direct contradiction to the claim that women couldn’t own property, which was yet another false claim.

Since when was marriage ever compulsory? Many of the sufferagets were unmarried. Marriage was and is a simple way for women to be able to live a life far beyond what she can afford on her own income. The woman is typically in charge of 70-80% of household disposable income nowadays. If she chooses to have less to spend, she could and can always abstain from marriage.

Anonymoussays:

As for not having options to fend for oneself, let’s not forget, the oldest profession in the world is . . . Prostitution!

People lived only to their 40’s back then, so it was probably a lot easier for a woman to support herself for life, using the earnings from her peak 15 years from 18-32, in prostitution, which is probably still by far the highest hourly rate achievable for most women today.

Valdimirsays:

@Anon Its debatable if prostitution is the oldest profession in the world. It was Rudyard Kipling who made such a claim in the 1800’s, you would have thought such a claim would have been made in earlier literature.

The sad thing is that even this fake version of FatB’Stard is more entertaining than either of you.

TVC15says:

You’re only half right about that. 😉

Jaybird923says:

@Fake Fatty
Of course you don’t remember because you weren’t around and you’re a lazy copycat. You didn’t even bother to read enough of the old post so you’d truly have an understanding of the character you’re attempting to play.

I don’t think anyone thinks you’re entertaining. I mostly think it’s sad and wonder how much you must think you suck if you can’t participate on a blog without misappropriating someone else’s persona.

Find a new avenue? Oh no, you won’t. This is the real Fat Bastard, just the bored version. No one offers up much than the mind aim here anymore that has been regurgitated and eaten again.

Give him something to play with and a hybrid catnip is at your fingertips.

Anonsays:

Damn the stupid mini phone to type on than a really prop. Yes, Ebonics is alive and well my friends. Prepare room for in nature sings, in this hiday season. Joy to the world in figuring out the speech encryption that will be played in here in your commercial breaks. Lmao.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to have it used against them.

Anonymoussays:

Those who cannot remember the past may just have had a really really good time.

Kore13says:

This was just what you’ve done before Jay – like you always say, don’t dish it if you can’t take it. I just don’t reply to every one of your posts with, “this is so stupid,” after saying that you were going to ignore me. 😉

I’ve never said that I was going to ignore you. It was fun to see how you did end up getting your panties in a bunch though. ^^

Anonymoussays:

@Kore you really need to stop. This is sad and pathetic

problem issays:

nothing more need be said! sad

Kore13says:

Nah, it’s ok. It’s just a matter of time before she comes back with more accusations and name calling anyway. Might as well stop ignoring that now and show her what it’s like to have some of her own methods used on her. See what happens.

sad, just fuk’n really sad

Kore13says:

Yep. Happens if I add to some/one of the female blog mentalities. 😉

Anonymoussays:

Don’t try to play innocent you’re ho started calling the other girls names first. She comments on your post and instead of commenting on hers you make personal attacks.

I’m not touchy about it. I just think you’re pathetic and phony. You’re always trying to pretend that people are provoking you when it’s you that takes things to another level. You deserved to be called a stupid bitch that day because you were acting like one. Many people have called you worse but you don’t follow them around the blog trying to get their attention.

My understanding is the term “ghosting” is reserved for people with whom you have some kind of relationship, while “poofing” is for people with whom you were trying to establish a relationship.

Maybe I just answered my own question?

Anonsays:

@ TVC

Precise accurate distinction of “ghosting” and “proofing”. The misunderstood job of: “Can you see what I see? Applause…you point out the distinction that is hiding but oh so obvious in a panoramic view.

Anonymoussays:

E-rudeness is normal. You are nothing to the other person, but a bunch of text messages. Most people, especially young (=SBs) will not be rude to your face, but will think nothing of blowing you off for a few month and come back with “Heyyyyy, was sooooo buzy (sic)”

Anonymoussays:

@Kore and @Jay are two decent women speaking their respective minds. Respect!

Kore13says:

I am still a woman, so I guess I can’t help but react to some provocations, but I’d appreciate it if you didn’t bring me down to the same level. It’s probably one of the rudest things I’ve said on the blog, but I don’t like being associated with this kind of female BS.

Yeah, I don’t like it either. But I try to give people the benefit of the doubt.

Anonymoussays:

ignore and block

kssays:

Maybe his indecision, embarrassment at changing his mind, found someone else, does not feel obligated to share his reasons because he hardly knows you, or has not even met you. If it bothers you, tell him so when he returns and acting as if nothing had happened. If he apologizes, he was just inconsiderate and recognizes his mistake. If he could not care two hoots, just next him, because he will likely not change… you have already stated such behavior bothers you. I would not care, but its clear it irks you.

AnonymousSSSDsays:

If you wouldn’t behave that way towards a pot, then don’t tolerate it from them.

TVC15says:

I see your point, but here’s the thing. It might not have been a snub. The pot might have poofed because they found someone else before getting a chance to meet you, but it didn’t work out. They wouldn’t send a message saying, “Sorry, I enjoyed our conversation but I’m gonna try this other person out.” They would just poof. Then they find themselves alone again, so they come back looking. Nothing wrong with that.

Gentlesays:

Depends on how deep you get into it with the Poofee. If you had many convos and poofed it would be rude and unforgivable. But if you only had a few texts and emails it could be understandable . Ultimately though ,an educated well bred person would sign off in some way.

If it is only after an exchange of 3 or 4 messages it is different.

TVC15says:

I wouldn’t do it either, but I can imagine why an otherwise decent person might. Maybe I’m too nice? 😉

OnlineNewbieSDsays:

@TV – I’m going to disagree with you…I HAVE actually gotten messages from pot SBs that said, “I’m sorry, I know we had coffee scheduled for next week, but I had a great first meeting with someone else from the site and really connected, I’d like to see where this goes…can I reach out to you if the second meeting turns out to be a bust?” (paraphrased, not quoted)

I’ve also SENT that type of message to a pot SB. Look, it’s about communication with me…if you can’t communicate, you’re not going to be able to keep my attention and I’m going to be back looking for a replacement…just like if I don’t come through with my expectations for my SB, she’ll be back looking for my replacement.

i think it is not only more educated but also more clever because it leaves the door open to get back in touch in case things didn’t work out the way you thought…

OnlineNewbieSDsays:

If they poof after conversation, then reappear with the same profile, I usually ignore them…unless the initial contact back had a “decent” explanation on why they disappeared.

Had one contact say they had a stalker from the site, they didn’t want to drag anyone else into the mess so they just abandoned the site for a while…I talked to her for a bit, but nothing materialized.

I’m usually willing to give a brief second chance…as @Jay continues to tell me, “you’re too damn nice”…but it’s my personality, so I deal with it 😉

@Elaine It depends on their personality. If they were nice, I wouldn’t mind, but if they came across as arrogant or I didn’t like them otherwise, then I guess I would just ignore.

elainesays:

@Kore

Well it would bother me even more if they were nice!
Having spend time and conversations and even making plans to travel and meet with a nice person, who then once in a sudden turns silent, is even more annoying!

I don’t even start conversations with arrogant or otherwise unpleasant people, so it would never come that far anyway.

Anonsays:

* POOFING/ not “proofing”.

Anonymoussays:

Kore is the type of woman that shouldn’t be trusted. Notice how she intentionally post comments to antagonize Jaybird923 and when she responds she cries foul like Jaybird was the one who started it. I wouldn’t put it beyond her to do the same thing with men antagonize them until they react and then call the cops to claim he’s abusing her.

There are crazy men out there…

Anonymoussays:

Not that type of female brand crazy well unless they’re flamers.

Jaybird923says:

@Madison when I say the right attitude I mean knowing this isn’t one sided. Understanding that you’re not entitled to his money just because you’re young ans pretty. You’re here to enhance his life make it better and he’s here to do the same for you. A lot of women come here with a general disdain and lack of respect for the very men they’re holding their hand out to looking for assistance. If that’s how you feel you shouldn’t be here and we were getting a lot of those types asking for help. It started to feel like we were helping them con men into thinking they were someone they weren’t so we stopped helping.

Jaybird923says:

That was not directed at you just a geneal statement

Madison93says:

Lol I get that

OnlineNewbieSDsays:

@Madison – it is important to remember, you’re writing for a man…sometimes a woman’s perspective on your verbiage can damage your credibility with the guys on this site…I believe that @Jay’s advice has been spot on for you…I also think you should check out some alt sites for your fetish, and make it clear in those profiles you’re seeking an arrangement. It shouldn’t be out of the ballpark for them to see that on those sites.

I don’t remember when we used to give out a lot of advice, but it would benefit you to go back and reread a number of those blogs (back when @SexyRockstar and others) were inputting on profiles…those were women who “got” the lifestyle. None of them seemed to be about the money, none of them seemed to be about the sex, all of them seemed to be about the connection and everything else just worked well together.

I’ve looked at your profile and it needs whitespace, most men will see all that text and click away…even if they’re into your size (and there are a lot more of us who would be into your size with the right arrangement, even some who wouldn’t admit it on blog — just sayin’)…break it up into paragraphs and put an extra line between them so it’s not just a glob of characters.

I did not proofread it…make sure YOU do…this is your Sugar Resume, any typo could find your chances in the garbage…other pieces of advice like this are found in past blogs…go search…learn…you WILL do fine with the right attitude (as mentioned by Jay)

Madison93says:

I don’t want this to sound like it’s not a compliment because it is, but I love your sage advice. Thank you for that input. So it’s just more whitespace and proofreading? I’ll fix that. What about the subject matter?

Madison93says:

Yay, I’m remembered! I have used my fetish on other sites, but normally those who reply were more so looking for a traditional relationship. I do know that the weight is an issue but I’ve lost 22lbs so far so I’m getting there. I have met with a few POTs but they ended up being duds. It’s harder to find someone into my fetish than someone into a size 14 kinda girl.

Congrats on the weight loss, Madison!

And yes, people who are into specific fetishes are difficult to find. Have you tried fetlife?

Madison93says:

Thanks! It’s a lot of hard work and I hate every second of it but the results are worth it. And I’ve never heard of Fetlife. Is it a website with people who have fetishes but are also willing to make an arrangement?

It’s not specifically geared towards arrangements, but I have seen ads on there from people who are looking for one or open to one. Wouldn’t hurt for you to be active on both sites.

Madison93says:

I will definitely try. Thanks for the heads up.

Madison93says:

Whoops. This was a reply for what I posted before. Also, I did tweak my page a little more with things to make me seem a bit more dynamic, but I feel like something is still missing (besides more pictures). Can anyone touch my icon and help me learn more?

Anonymoussays:

You sound like a sweet girl Maddy

Anonymoussays:

@Dave is a woman.

Anonymoussays:

I’ve been thinking this for over a week. He’s either a woman or an extremely feminine guy. His thought pattern is all over the place and he doesn’t seem to use any logic at all. He’s also indecisive as hell and uses a lot of women words and sayings verbatim. It’s probably a girl but with some of these extremely feminine younger men who knows.

TVC15says:

Dave strikes me as a person who is younger than his chronological age and trying to figure things out. If he is genuinely working on being a better person, then that’s a good thing both for him and the people around him.

Don’t play innocent after the fact. You knew exactly what kind of response you would get.

elainesays:

@Anon,
Great! You seem to know better what I know as I do!

Another one with a crystal ball…. *shrug*

Madison93says:

You guys post so much unnecessary crap. Like why does it matter? And then you’re all attacking each other like a bunch of Neanderthals. I thought you women were better than that. I used to like reading your posts for some insight, but now it’s sickening. Totally “beat them while they’re down.” How am I supposed to learn without the run guidance?

OnlineNewbieSDsays:

@Madison – it is unfortunate this blog has become as bad as it has…there were times in the past where people could ask questions and get answers, without all the bullshit.

Unfortunately, there were SBs who would ask for profile help and use the advice to con SDs…there were SBs who would ask questions for book research…there were SDs who would ask questions that should be on PUA sites…

If you have specific questions, please ask them…if you have issues you want direction in, please bring them up…you WILL find there are those on blog who will give you some help/advice…as long as you exhibit good sugar qualities in your requests and responses.

Madison93says:

Thanks at least for that. But who can I go to? Especially being new to this. I’m not trying to con anyone. I’m just seeking an arrangement (no pun intended) but it seems like everyone is out to fool everyone else

Anonymoussays:

Madison — trust your instincts. Try to find someone you have a true connection with. Have a clear understanding of what you want, and make sure that is evident in your profile. Also, have realistic expectations and communicate what you bring to the table.

Despite what you may have read elsewhere, most women don’t get big money for platonic relationships. A lot of men are going to want p4p until they trust you. An allowance of $1-3k is more reasonable. You aren’t going to find some hot guy your age to pay you a large allowance to be arm candy.

Sound advice!

Anonymoussays:

Feel free to come here Madison. I’ll try to help you the best I can. There are a few of us who will.

Madison93says:

Would it be hard to understand that I have no instincts to rely on? I think I put everything I could put in my profile. I did once have a few people here critique me, and I got the feedback and tried to change it as much as I could. And I wasn’t exactly looking for something platonic for big money. Idk what I come across as. And is it always a deal breaker if someone is overweight? Because while it is only one thing about me, I’m pretty sure I make up for it in many other ways. And then what that Dave guy said about college girls is so wrong. I don’t think like that at all.

Jaybird923says:

@Madison Online is right we use to give a lot of help on the blog but most of them were scammers and people who would ask for help and get beligerante when we gave them honest feedback. I’ve always remained open to helping those who truly wanted the help and had the right attitude for this lifestyle. But I won’t put in the effort for the drive by posters or the ones who don’t understand what mutually beneficial really means.

I remember you Madison and I told you your chances were slim here on SA you have a particular fetish that distinguishes you from others use it or try your luck on one of the alternative sites.

Anonymoussays:

Madison being overweight is going to be a real uphill battle on here for you. I’m not trying to be mean but that’s just how it is. I think I remember you from a while ago. Thought the name sounded familiar.

Half her words are pretty much bitching and down talking anyone who disagrees with her.

Madison93says:

@Kore
But what makes you any different? Try not to be like someone else and be your own person.

Jaybird923says:

Look you dumb bitch I don’t claim to be a SB because I think it’s a ridiculous tittle for an adult. Unlike you I’ve had plenty of success on here and have turned down several generous offers from SDs. Some of them I still talk to and have a standing offers to let them know if I change my mind.

I’ve helped many people in the past on the blog and off the blog including SDs who have come back to thank me. If you read old post you’ll see all the people who came here specifically to ask for my help.

I don’t talk about my SD because he does not participate on the blog I do. So while I’m willing to share information about me I won’t share information about him. The people who I communicate with off blog has more information but nothing specific. Discretion is a valuable asset in this lifestyle.

Kore13says:

@Madison I take pride in being myself because there aren’t a million of me and being another Jaybird would kill my personality – no thank you!! I come from a culture where using totally stupid replies comes across as low brow, believe it or not.

If you want my advice (I have read you profile) – I think you’re doing alright except that there are some sentences you should change. It’s good that you’re not self entitled, but you’ve written quite a bit about what you’re expecting (and in general). I doubt as many SDs on SA don’t have the qualities you are looking for.

What Jay says in her 10:22 post is that she is an SB in point of fact, but she refuses to use the term “SB” because she doesn’t think an adult should call herself that.

Your reading comprehension is extremely poor, and you can’t make up for that by being hostile and petulant.

Madison93says:

@kore
Thank you for that input. I tried to make it seem like any guy. Which sentences would you recommend I change. The one with the large hands was meant to be a joke so I know I can take that off. Anything else.

Kore13says:

What is 2 + (1+1)?

She’s not a SB because she doesn’t like the title, yet she’s on a sugar blog where if you’re on the receiving end of money. I like your and her attempt at logical thinking when it comes to making VALID points.

TVC15says:

I might respond to that if it made any sense.

Anonymoussays:

Jaybird923 says:
December 10, 2015 at 7:10 am

“@FAT It’s absolutely ridiculous for anyone over the age of 21 to walk around calling themselves a sugar baby. We briefly brought up the subject the day before, I am more of a mistress than a sugar baby.

Though I did meet him on the site, I am with him because I like him and enjoy his company in and out of bed not for an allowance. He makes me happy and I go out of my way to make him happy.

I’ve said this many times before I’m more than capable of paying my own bills. I don’t live beyond my means so I have no need to sell myself to the highest bidder. I’ve never asked him for a cent anything he does for me he does because he wants to not because that’s the price for my affection. He knows he has that free of charge.”

@Kore you do need to let it go you’re making your self look childish and petty. Jaybird923 has been very consistent since she started posting on the blog always said the same thing she wanted someone she was compatible with and not just money. And she’s helped a lot of people with their profiles. Sometimes she was a little harsh but her advice was always spot on.

Maybe next time you could work on your reading comprehension instead of attacking people based on your misunderstandings and then requiring other bloggers to explain their posts to you.

FatB'StardSAsays:

@Kore13

“What is 2 + (1+1)?”

That is not a fair question for @Jay and @TVC15. Being of Indian heritage you probably think that basic mathematical skill is common to everyone.

You have to realize that @Jay and @TVC15 are “social scientists” (which you can tell be the way they use “logic” to win arguments). You need to ask them real questions such as “How is the partriachy the root of all evil in western society”

Have a nice day :-).

TVC15says:

Thanks FB, but I can never hope to match your achievements in that area. Have a good weekend!

sugar baby monkeysays:

are you telling to these persons how they should act? who are you? if you don’t like how people ARGUE, arguments that you, brainless, obviously don’t understand, you’re free to leave the blog
“Neanderthals” because someone argued something? Really? You’re very smart!
I think i will cry due all the non dramatic post of you, smart person!

Madison93says:

Woman, I’m totally not gunna mix myself into this catty fight. That wasn’t an argument, that was a play on words to help role someone up. She wasn’t even included in the conversation, just decided to interrupt it and say “Yea, taking advice from someone who never claimed to be a SB and has never spoken of her SD.” You call that an argument? I call that starting a cheap fight. Same thing you’re doing by adding unnecessary input yourself. There are so many threads you could’ve lodged your replies into SBM. You’re not required here.

sugar baby monkeysays:

madison i could hurt your feelings so bad girl but i won’t do that because i just don’t want. and the last whom decides here who is required or not, it’s me, if you don’t like you can get out, too, bye!

Madison93says:

Why are replying to me like an insolent child? Aren’t I the one that’s 21 years old? Why don’t we make a truce so you don’t come out looking like a fool. Because you realize words are just words and will always be words, right?

@kore
Thank you for that input. But does that mean my qualities for an SD are too far reaching? I was trying to portray any regular man.

Kore13says:

“What I’m looking for is a man, who is simply a man. Confident in who he is…”

Sounds bit like you’re defining what men are and if they don’t match that, that they aren’t really men. It’s a bit negative.

“All are equally enticing..”

If this is true, it’s a matter of course and shouldn’t be explicity mentioned. If you’re looking for something specific, you should remove this sentence. If you’d rather stay open, then don’t be that specific about what you want. Both together contradict.

“I love sex but I’m not prepared to jump into it after a quick meeting”

TMI – on a site like this, male opinions lean towards an extreme, typically ‘whore’ or ‘prude,’ to put it very bluntly. I’d replace this with something a bit more subtle.

That was mostly it, I think. Everything else was fine. Again, this is just my opinion. I hope you don’t take offense.

Madison93says:

Ok I agree with 95% of what you said. I’ll make the changes, but about the “confident” wouldn’t you like a man that’s confident in being a man? Most men ask equally for a confident woman, because who would want to be with someone with low self esteem and self conscious enough to turn down compliments etc. and I believe that generally, any man that is smart enough to make money and seek on this site is already confident in themselves so by reciting confidence, it’s like I’m complimenting each and every male that reads it….or did I just over analyze that?

Madison93says:

And I’m a bit chagrined about the “I like sex” statement. I agree it’s a bit too brazen but what else would I put as a little bit softer than can evoke the same thoughts? I brain farting on good analogies right now ?

TVC15says:

It’s kinda pointless to ask for a confident man, because most men think they’re confident even if they’re not. No guy is going to read that and say, “Well, I’m not confident, so I better not contact her.”

So I guess that it’s a take or leave then? At least I can revise just a few things and not my whole profile like last time. Thanks @kore and @tvc

Anonymoussays:

@Dave,

Stop putting her on the pedestal. For all you know up to this point, she could be a pre-op tranny down there. LOL. With all due respect to real trannies, that’s probably not what you Dave want. Don’t have your hopes too high up either. Exceptionally pretty girls tend to have exceptionally shitty personality; otherwise, someone else would have scooped her up already.

Do make more effort protecting yourself, physically (STD risk), emotionally (don’t wear it on your sleeves), and financially. Throwing money at her before she puts out doesn’t make her put out for you but only perversely bid up your own price of entry. After she puts out, then not only keep your words but also shower her with extras if/when you want to.

Women are hypergamous by nature. They are biologically evolved to derive pleasure from rejecting men and putting down other women (and men alike). You have to promise and deliver rewards superior to that baseline pleasure in order to keep a woman in friendly cooperation (sex or normal business). Otherwise she will be “disappointed,” even if such disappointment is entirely due to her own too rapidly rising bars. Once you are 100% committed to a woman in terms of what you can do for her, you are only setting yourself for her disappointment in you. You should have learned that lesson in your first divorce. Something tells me your ex-wife divorced you, not your rotating her out in order to diversify your own genetic portfolio.

Davesays:

Thank you for the advice . I got a feel between her legs the other night , no joystick down there … I got 71 unread messages in my inbox . I’ll next her if I don’t feel she is behaving properly . I don’t know how you feel but the P4P is not that exciting anymore . Hell I don’t even want a full time girlfriend , just something in between . It’s hard to articulate that .

“They are biologically evolved to derive pleasure from rejecting men and putting down other women (and men alike).”

This isn’t accurate. I don’t deny that I see it a lot, but it’s definitely more of a learned/environmental issue.

Anonymoussays:

Boys are instinctively prone to physical violence; girls are instinctively prone to emotional violence. When they grew up in the cave era, the former was for enlarging the tribe’s territory, the latter was for culling the sick and unfit within the tribe so the existing territorial resources could be utilized more efficiently.

It is only through repeated conditioning with optimal outcomes that boys and girls learn to cooperate. These are learned social skills.

I have a feeling that you would not be posting a video of a woman beaten silly by other women because she stole some money from them?

kssays:

I have a feeling you don’t know what you are talking about. The video shows someone who through violence (rape) gets a good beating by the girls father. The video is violence begets violence. Your comment implies theft is worthy of violence in retribution. Can you see the different value system? Probably not. In essence you managed to provide the wrong answer to the wrong question on the wrong subject matter. Want to try again?

How about this…

I have a feeling that you would not be posting a video of a woman beaten silly by other women because she hit one the women’s child, or “took advantage” of him/her?

kssays:

You didn’t listen to the video. Did you? Rape is mentioned. Rape is violence. Yes?

Yes, I would post such a video as that would depict violence begets violence. Glad to see your logic has improved.

The video I posted is topical as in 2 days old. I have no recent video of the scenario you posted. If you have, you should post it if you feel it serves a purpose such as a depiction of what goes around, comes around, Karma, etc.

Your feelings are wrong. Your intuition is poor. Your analysis is poor. My intuition tells me you have the mindset of an adolescent.

– You are living in your mother’s basement.
– You are bitter because someone messed up with your mind.
– You have small penis.

kssays:

Why wait? Just address them now, along with the others that you chose to ignore.

Davesays:

@tvc . You have an extreme fear of stds . The media loves to scare the sheeple into thinking there’s an epidemic . I had a navy buddy who screwed the first Filipino he saw after his first deployment . Unfortunately for him she also screwed the entire fifth fleet . He got the clap and a host of other parasites . I asked him if it hurt . He said “not as much as a migraine . “

@TacoDave Regarding to the taco girl, all the sugar babies here in SA will tell you “i’m not a pro” though she could be the worst pro. so please dave, use your brain.

=D

Davesays:

This has been my experience : half the college girls have been acting like pros, the other half just plain prostitutes . The college girls obviously do not have enough time to want to get to know me so they quickly start talking about per date pricing and the duration of the visits . The broke girls with no education and /or not much of a resume actually want to get to know me and do not even talk about money most of the
time . The girls who give free samples , well , they are obviously thinking that they will reel me in with some pussy but it has had the opposite effect now that I’m actually looking for a sb that I can have a mental as well as a physical
connection with . I’m a bit naive in many ways part of which led to me scamming . My thought process was that I will get to them before they get to me because women are malicious and evil . I guess now I’m willing to risk being conned myself in the hopes that I find someone I actually like .

Stop it you cruel bitch! How many men must you destroy in one evening? LMAO

TVC15says:

All of them. Muah ha ha ha ha ha!

Kore13says:

“Like ermagawd, that’s so funny!! It doesn’t matter if I act like a bimbo and think men are pervs because I haven’t done anything to actually hurt them. Let’s just forget that and pretend Kore thinks like one of us – let’s call her out on it in our girl clique – that’ll get her undies in a bunch, harharhar. And then let’s turn around and post a sentence or two about shitty female behaviour that we’re guilty of ourselves – it’s so clever, mwahahaha!”

Jaybird923says:

Grow the fuck up Kore. We called you on your bullshit and moved on. You need to find something better to do with your time. Maybe get a job or spend more time on SA working on your profile/getting a SD instead of the blog. Obviously rotating the same bad pictures isn’t working nor is continually changing your allowance category. Stop being a damn crybaby

Kore13says:

I have a nice paying job that doesn’t take up much time at all.

And you don’t need to tell me to grow up – it’s you who can’t stop posting some crazy, imagined BS. What did you call me out for again? Trying to suck up to Josh and some other bloggers I barely even know? Maybe have a look at how many times you’ve needed to rely on siding with people and finally ended up with some totally off topic insults to give weight to your ‘arguments.’

Jaybird923says:

Whenever a woman disagrees with you you try to make it into something it’s not you are the only that was doing any name calling. We questioned you outrage over TVC. Not one person called you a name. But you called us several and no one retaliated. None of us has continued to bring up the subject but here you are again playing the victim.

Like I said grow up if you can’t take it don’t dish it out. I won’t get dragged any further into your stupidity. This is the last time I’m addressing this suject you’ll have to continue the conversation alone. Move the fuck on. everyone who disagrees with you doesn’t have a personal vendetta against you.

Kore! It’s extremely offensive and discriminatory to use the word “retarded” in the way you just did. It’s an insult to mentally disabled people.

You should be ashamed. Go sit in the corner and think about what you’ve done.

Jaybird923says:

Was that your attempt at logic? lol I don’t have a problem eating lunch with girls I have a problem sitting there for an hour listening to illogical stupidity, the same issue I occasionally have with you Kore. It was alright for you to call out TVC but now you have your panties in a bunch because it was done to you. Now let it go and move on.

LOL for real 😀

Jaybird923says:

lol Wishful thinking maybe?

MissLadysays:

As long as I get to be Oscar

Davesays:

@ josh. Hey man . You should take it as a compliment when a woman starts asking you about your exes. For one she knows you’ve been able to pull women before her , she wants to be a little jealous, she’s insecure me , meaning she likes you and wants to know how she stacks up to her competition , and lastly is afraid you might run back to her . I would leverage the fact that you obviously have attracted women in your past

“You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you” in any manner she deems appropriate to rape your mind, repeatedly, in the near and distant future.

Anonymoussays:

Hard to believe Dave is 41. He sounds like a lot of the 20-something guys I talk to.

Davesays:

Actually it’s you guys who seem to lack the experience . It’s not like I care what they think
But if they think you have abundance then they work harder for your attention. I found that out to be true when I was going out with a girl who was semi interested then when We kept running into my past girlfriends that got all her all curious about my past and she was all over
me soon after . She kept asking me how I was attracting them . You talk as if every woman is peg bundy and you’re unhappily married .

It is very difficult for most women to make independent decisions. They like to group-think and you being attractive to other attractive women helps with their group-think requirement.

Jaybird923says:

Unfortunately this is true for most women.

Davesays:

Yes it’s semantics . Some query my ex wife on Facebook and then soon after I get a text “ooh your ex wife is really pretty .” I didn’t make the rules of the game I’m just telling you what I’ve witnessed .

LOL! @Dave, it’s not wise to place too much value on how or what women think of you.

TVC15says:

Or anybody else, for that matter

Davesays:

You’re confused by my statement . I stated that you should use your past exes attractiveness rating and leverage for gain . It does not mean what I care about what a potential sb or girlfriend thinks .

Give it a rest. It’s racist and you know it. It’s not funny and worse, it’s intellectually lazy. You can do better, I know, I’ve seen it.

Davesays:

The Mexican vaginas taste like heaven my friend . You should try it . The mestizas are my favorite; slightly brown skin beautiful eyes , especially the thin ones . They are also very sexual and aim to please .

Davesays:

Yes Elaine thank you! I do want to like this girl . I don’t want p4p . She stated that on her profile and I explicitly told her that I am not looking for a slut or prostitute . I want a connection where I enjoy her company and I provide economic incentives .

TVC15says:

Kore, you are the queen of non sequiturs.

Jaybird923says:

Kore, you are the queen of non sequiturs.

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Kore13says:

It shouldn’t be that hard to figure out that I was trying to say something about being more forgiving if you can’t be empathetic.. Which made me wonder if your age had anything to do with being sympathetic.

I don’t feel like explaining myself all the time, though. Don’t be too sure that there’s no logic behind my comment, TVC. It’s not me who retorts to so many posts solely with, “fatty,” etc.

TVC15says:

Come on, Kore. If a guy requests access to my private pics without saying a word to me, and I give him access because I like the idea of annoying him with my lack of nudes, that hardly makes me a nasty bitch.

And the only person I call “fatty” around here is the fat guy who’s constantly telling women to lose weight. You could actually look at that as a favour I’m doing, since he’s begging for it so hard.

In both cases, I’m giving the guy exactly what he asked for. How is that so wrong?

OK, I admit it’s petty, but it’s totally harmless. I’m under no obligation to have nude photos, and if that was his only motivation for asking, that’s his problem.

Besides, the guy’s on the Internet in the first place. If he wants to look at nudes that badly, I’ve only delayed him by a few seconds.

Kore13says:

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I know. Anyone with a brain knows. Dunno if it’s petty – you get a kick out of it and that’s fine.
You’re also a nice girl and that’s obvious, but honestly.. What makes you think they deserve to be treated like this? So some of them are bit crappy when it comes to dealing with women, but they’ve been treated like this probably repeatedly throughout their whole lives and this attitude won’t make things better.

What makes you think that doing something like that will make a man feel, “Oh, I should be nicer because they’re all being bitches.”
As opposed to, “Oh, I feel embarrassed now because she’s someone I’ve respect for?”

Kore13says:

Yeah, fucking non sequiturs.

Fuck. social intelligence.

TVC15says:

All I’m doing is giving them access to my photos as requested, while harboring a secret little petty thought in my head that they know nothing about. The only thing they see on their end is a message that says, “I’ve just given you access to my private photos, go to my profile to view them.” How is that bitchy, and how does it have a negative effect on them unless they’re psychic?

So I’m tormenting men by giving them access to my pictures while secretly having a bad attitude. OK! I confess, I am a thought criminal.

Jaybird923says:

@Kore You’re laying it on a little too thick . We get it you’re for the ethical and humane treatment of man, but no ones buying this bullshit outrage. This is just a bunch of grandstanding. Step off your soap box…

She is incapable of compassion for these “loser” men. Her bad attitude is clear throughout her other posts as well. Like I said before @TVC15 and @Dave are the same personality.

I am sure @TVC15 will be outraged at me saying this. She cannot comprehend how horrible a person she is.

TVC15says:

No, I’m beginning to understand. It’s terribly wrong not to have exclusively kind and generous thoughts about the man whose request you’re fulfilling when you click that “Share Photos” button. Secret female pettiness like mine is the direct cause of male bad behaviour, because men are so smart and perceptive they can tell the automatic message has a bad attitude behind it.

Like Dave, I’ve had a change of heart and will be mending my ways. Er – how exactly do I do that? Is it enough to think happy thoughts when I share my photos, or do I now have an obligation to put up a bunch of nudes and share them to make up for my misdeeds?

FatB'StardSAsays:

@Kore13

@Jay and @TVC15 are the type of women who get off on hurting men. Even worse is the fact (as you pointed out) that these are men who suffer in social situations. These women will use words/phases like “loser” or “basement dweller” to justify their abusive nature towards these men. Of course they are outraged when someone calls a woman a bitch.

These women have no empathy for those they deem beneath them. They are the female equivalent of @Daves on the blog.

Don’t let them bully you (which is what they try to do to everyone on the blog). Your opinion is as valid as theirs is.

TVC15says:

No, it’s even MORE valid. Because it’s based exclusively on feelings, it doesn’t have to make sense.

FatB'StardSAsays:

@TVC15

“because I like irritating the ones who are hoping I’ve got nudes”

You have made your position on the blog very clear. Your goal is to cause grief to these men in any way you can. I can only imagine the joy you get in tormenting these “sub standard” SD’s in person.

You are a zelot who sees nothing wrong causing pain to the who do not think like yourself of match your ideals. You are no different in any way to @FunDude or @Dave or any of the “evil” SD’s on the blog (or SA for that matter). As much as it pains you to read it you need to know you have no moral high ground here.

Jaybird923says:

@Fake Fatty

Yeah that’s what I do I wake up everyone morning thinking of the many ways to hurt men. I even have a tumblr page called “The secret joy of granting men access to private pics that aren’t nudes”

If we’re going to talk about things that hurt men… TVC gives them the access that they request so she’s obedient but Kore admitted below that when men who ask for access to her pictures with out talking to her first she disobeys them and don’t do what they ask for. Instead for her own amusement she sends them a counter request for theirs.

Think of the damage that does to them. She emasculate them after interacting with her they’ll never be the same again.

Even @TVC15’s thought process regarding allowing a trivial thing like granting access to pictures is not immune to thoughts of how to hurt these men. This desire probably colors every though she has.

Of course you cannot see it because you are no better than @TVC15 is when dealing with “genetically inferiour” males.

Kore13says:

@TVC I encourage you to read through your comments and think on the point you are trying relate instead of ‘arguing’ like the way you are. You’re going right past my point – that negative encouragement of bad behaviour might serve to kick not only men, but ourselves in the gut.

@Jay What she’s written speaks novels about what’s going on through a woman’s head, whether she knows it or not. Sure, I was being a bit harsh since I didn’t expect that of TVC, who’s been on the blog for a while, but I don’t get what your problem is. So what is your problem? Disbelief that I might be concerned about things you might not care about?

@FB Yeah.. When it rains it pours.

TVC15says:

No need, Kore, my reading comprehension’s top notch. Good enough, in fact, that I notice you’ve never answered my question as to how exactly my action causes harm. But don’t bother, because as you well know, it doesn’t.

Kore13says:

@Jay There’s a difference between her giving access and my asking for it. When I’ve only read a person’s profile (which is typically nice), I don’t jump to the idea that the SD is a douche because he didn’t write me a PM. It’s not the best approach, but it’s not evidence that they are horny pervs.

If I were to hit the ‘give access’ button thinking they were horny pervs, it doesn’t make me any nicer. FFS..

This must be a joke TVC? How often must I say that it’s your attitude, not your actions that I’m speaking about.

I’ve even said early on that it hardly matters if what you’re doing is petty when it’s the thinking behind it that’s important.

Jaybird923says:

@Fake Fatty She might very well be a misandrist but Kore false outrage had nothing to do with her post. It was simply done so the male bloggers (Josh in particular) Can comment on how much of a non man hater she is and TVC is everyone’s favorite target right.

How is what at Kore doing any different? Why is it wrong to secretly enjoy the fact that men who had no interest in you beyond getting a glimpse of nude pics are denied that pleasure?

And why is it not wrong or rude to enjoy denying the same men access to your pictures and then turn around and request access to theirs out of spite when you know you’re not interested in them?

I could care less what either Kore or TVC does. What annoyed me was the hypocrisy and blatant insincere outrage behind Kore’s attack of TVC.

TVC15says:

oh please, Kore. Read your own words:

“What makes you think they deserve to be treated like this?… they’ve been treated like this probably repeatedly throughout their whole lives and this attitude won’t make things better.

What makes you think that doing something like that will make a man feel, “Oh, I should be nicer because they’re all being bitches.” As opposed to, “Oh, I feel embarrassed now because she’s someone I’ve respect for?”

Now. Explain to me how my SECRET THOUGHTS have such an impact on random anonymous men who never exchange so much as a message with me.

@TVC I’ve never disliked you TVC, but I don’t support this kind of apporoach towards men. It wasn’t personal and I wouldn’t have reacted differently if you had been anyone else.

@Jay I don’t think the way you do… I don’t troll around on the blog, if that’s any indicator of me not wanting attention.

Kore13says:

Furthermore, I don’t think this kind of attitude is nice. Sure, men are very sexual creatures, but it’s not a great approach to think that all they want is sex. I don’t think they’re as turned on by random women as they are by intimacy.

Davesays:

As I get older I want the whole experience , the closeness , the flirtation , a conversation that turns me on. The pump and dump lifestyle on a hot chick is okay for about a dozen times . Then you realize you were not that special if she does that with a lot of people .

cryptic anomalysays:

I want the intimacy, to have someone who is responsive both via the chatting online stage and in person. Being on SA for a man is a huge role reversal of the typical scenario where you are trying to impress women in a bar, now women are wanting money and hoping to impress us – whether they realize this or not.

When I start getting one line responses or meet a woman who isn’t charming or affectionate etc than I turn off, she wants my money but can’t even make an effort to engage me.

I’ve realized that most women are not very good at this at all so they fall back on showing off their bodies and even though that is nice and all it is just a fleeting thing which won’t get them anything more than P4P offers.

@ks Yes, but I meant initially. It’s harder to dump a crazy stranger you barely know than a crazy girlfriend.

What about ONS compared to regular sex with someone you know fairly well?

Cryptic Anomalysays:

@KS-I live in a country where brothels and escorts are legal, so if I want easy sex it’s there without having to message women on this site. So I’m looking for something else on here, found it twice but it is rare.

Porn is free and plenty . I’d rather not see everything on a woman I will meet from this site and have the mystery of unwrapping what’s underneath.

cryptic anomalysays:

I agree, when women show me nude pics, especially without my consent it just removes that element of discovery for me and also if they are showing me they are showing everyone else so it is becomes worthless.

cryptic anomalysays:

@Elaine – I hate it when I get the photo requests without a message or chatting first, I never respond. To me it comes off as lazy and rude. If you already have public photos up then the guys requesting private access are just hoping you might have nude ones but they don’t care enough to actually talk to you first!

Admittedly depending on my mood I have sometimes just requested access to private pics without chatting first, and it is usually because I don’t like the woman anyway but just want to see how much sluttier her private pics are.

I have also had women initiate contact with me by giving me access to their private photos. Again I see it as lazy and they usually end up being scammers when I do respond.

Kore13says:

Having a convo with one of those right now – he doesn’t live too far away from me. Typically, I’d just ignore and delete these messages – I even blocked one guy who kept requesting access mutltiple times, despite me writing a short fictional paragraph for shits and giggles (upon which there was still no text reply).

Anyway, the POT apologized when I told him that I don’t give access without some text. The convo moved to email and he’s asked me if I’m spontaneous enough to travel to London with him from Monday to Wednesday – we just started chatting today. Ah.. On one hand, the dead ends on SA don’t make it easy to feel excited about meets in two weeks, etc. On the other, it comes across as a bit strange.

Don’t know if he’s a fake. Too bad we’re not a community IRL. I see so many opportunities to bet on Guinness and cashews.

elainesays:

@Kore

You seem old and wise enough to take the risk to travel to London with an attractive pot.
Worst thing that can happen is there is no click, well in that case you have had a nice and free Christmas trip to London

As long as it feels good, the time you are chatting is not always indicative for the possible chemistry.
I have flewn to Dubai to meet someone I had been chatting with for almost a year on and off, we even had video chats etc. Only to find out soon irl there was nothing.
No chemistry, no attraction, just plain nothing…

With present SD we have been messaging day 1, we had a telephone call at day 2 and he bought my ticket and we met at day 5.

Just make sure you have your own hotelroom and a return ticket. And be upfront.
It is a first meet and you don’t “owe” him sex in case there is no attraction.
So he knows what he can and cannot expect and if it is worth the “risk” and investment, it will avoid things eventually going sour because of wrong expectations.

Jaybird923says:

“Worst thing that can happen is there is no click,”

Umm definitely not the worst that can happen. ..

elainesays:

@Jay

You are right.
I agree, in case she was a naive girl with not a lot of life and travel experience, there would be much bigger risks.
I would never have given this advice in such case!

But I think @Kore is experienced, smart and streetwise enough and would thoroughly screen the guy before.
Identity, professional, marriage status, adress , the whole shabam.
No travelling before knowing exactly with whom and a friend at home who knows where and with who you are.

Another Anonymoussays:

@Elaine

Are those requests from well-established members? It sounds like a rookie mistake from somebody who signed up yesterday.

elainesays:

@AA @Cryptic

Well, not sure, often I don’t even visit their profiles, so I don’t know if they are newbies.
As my profile pic is completely unrecognizable, they are probably just curious.
Don’t think they expect nudes or slutty pics. Haha LOL

And indeed, some send their pics unrequested and without message, don’t know what are they are thinking!?

Anyway, I think it is just ill mannered and I was asking myself if people do answer on them.

Anonymoussays:

“And indeed, some send their pics unrequested and without message, don’t know what are they are thinking!?”

They’re not.

elainesays:

Question for those who do that;
What kind of reaction do you get when sending a photo request without a message?
Are there actually people who DO answer or give permission?

I was wondering because lately I seem to receive them more often.
Personally I don’t even bother answering, but I was guessing others probably do.
Otherwise people wouldn’t continue doing it, would they?

Anonymoussays:

I reply if a girl looks cute, but do not give her access until we communicate more.
I never ask for private pictures at all unless her public ones are low resolution, face blurred, no full-body shots etc. If what is public gives me a good idea how she looks like, they are fine for me to proceed with a date.

Kore13says:

Sometimes I jsut request back without saying anything. 😀 If not and the profile is still nice, of course I would write them a message saying that I won’t give access until there’s been some text exchange.

Ok back to work.

Anonymoussays:

Local SBs
Are normally a better deal, unless one travels often. They want to meet often as they get allowance. So they do not mind each date being relatively “budget” as soon as 1) they like you and 2) you meet them often enough.
So once they feel u r not disappearing anywhere, you have someone eager to meet and not break your bank… If a girl is long-distance, you cannot normally meet her often. So you have fewer dates and they (normally) will cost more.

“rather pretty, plump and interesting” (plump was actually a COMPLIMENT for a woman back then)

“Am tall, dark, age 27”

So, how do you know those people were unattractive?

Anonymoussays:

To be fair, I reread through all of them. All ads except one denote a level of unattractiveness. Could I break that up for you? Yes, I could. Will I? No, I will not. I know you can read. Try rereading the ads again, and you will likely see that each ad (except one) contains an element of unattractiveness about its author.

If a woman is unattractive in a physical sense, there are things she can do to increase her potential. It’s a shame that most women can’t understand this.

TVC15says:

Really? Do such things as cosmetics exist that we can use to improve our facial appearance? Are there hairstylists who can make our hair look good? Are there shops where we can buy attractive clothing? Is there any way we can improve our physical fitness and thus the attractiveness of our bodies? Is there anyone who can give us advice us about how to do these things?

Thanks for the info, Anon. Women would never have imagined it was possible to spend money, time and effort on improving their appearance, if you hadn’t come along to let us know.

Was talking about the blog “SDs”, they don’t travel any further than their city limits.

Kore13says:

Mostly, maybe. One mentioned a while ago that he flew someone German to Canada..

Anonymoussays:

I’m considering doing this since I can’t find anyone within a 150-mile radius that interests me. The goal will be to relocate her though. It’s a tough call. I would prefer not to have to deal with this. I may just select to instead go back to regular dating to avoid the hassle.

Do you care to pout your statement to a test. I will provide my travel logs, if you are right, you get 10k, if you are wrong you go for a long weekend with Dave, FunDude and Guru.

Kore13says:

@Another How so? Intimacy brings with it a sense of bonding, so didn’t you miss her?

NorseMsays:

I have been having one for a good year now. Being in a relatively small place that widens the opportunities a lot. And I think it has an added benefit with being able to meet people of different backgrounds in more ways than just a difference in age.

SirèneMagnifiquesays:

My goodness, some of you are so cruel to one another. I know everyone can’t just get along, I’m not that naive. Just, wow.

Davesays:

Talking shit online when you wouldn’t face to face is weak . Who cares anyways . Josh can call me an idiot . I’m experimenting with being nice to an SB and I have no experience in that regards . I’ve only had girlfriends , one wife , and one night stands . ( the scamming doesn’t count though it was much easier than all the honest options ) it’s just not fulfilling . I’m here to figure out how to be an honest SD now .

Davesays:

I’d like to have a long term SB and feel what it’s like .

Anonymoussays:

Dave, there’s a big measure between being “nice” and being a doormat. It’s a delicate balance. I’ve learned that once you go in wrong it’s best to make a quick exit and move on to the next woman. How you start something with a woman is usually how it continues. Who they meet is who they expect you to always be and who they always wanted.

Kore13says:

Kind of. Sugar is supposed to free you from these issues. So she might need time to get to know him better, but keeping things a bit formal and having the distance an arrangement provides makes it easier.

The reason you are with these SBs is that you want to get away from problem women and even their vibes in your life.

babes..says:

A big turn off is men who ask for nude pics and dirty talks..

Davesays:

@josh@fun dude . I’m with the Mexican in overspent on right now lol .. So far I’m trying to get in her pants but all she wants to do is hold hands … Lol .. I hate being an honest SD too time consuming and work .

The reason you’re fucked by women instead of you fucking them is because you’re a certified idiot.

DON’T spend any money on her until she cooperates.

fundudesays:

the guru is correct on this issue

Davesays:

Thanks josh . I didn’t spend any money tonight . She keeps asking me stupid questions like if I still talk to my ex wife bad when’s the last time I had a conversation with her . Thanks for blunt talk though