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Super Growth Using Ultrasonic Frequencies!

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Dug

Posted 12 May 2009 - 01:34 PM

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We are continuing this convertasion over at the Fractal Culture forums. Feel free to drop by and help out, only the opening post has been recreated. I think you'll also like the forum topics a lot . Here is the link: http://www.fractalcu...-technique.html

I have been recently researching an experimental technique I came upon in a nature online magazine, consisting of bathing the plants with ultrasounds to boost their growth. This may very well be a revolutionary idea, and I deem it necessary to spread this information around so we may benefit from each other's experiments.

This is not my idea, nor did I coin any of these terms, so no credit is due to me. I am just an intrigued mind, researching the possibilities that I stumble upon, for better results in my garden, and, well, just for the hell of it.

Sooo fellow farmers/growers/tokerz/weed connoiceurs, this may very well be the actual cause behind the plants' positive response to music. Experiments done with music by many people (including me), show clearly that although music has a positive impact on plant growth/health, it is hard to define which kind of music works best. I have heard opinions on this matter ranging from classical music to, well, pure ol' rock 'n roll.

Now, if we step back for a minute, we are certain to realise that although defining which kind of music works best may very well benefit us, but our logic says that the plants respond to the actual sounds of the music we are playing to them. To the harmonic tones, the frequencies, the beat, the core elements that consist a song. So it would seem logical to try and isolate the key elements that a plant wants from sound waves. Gone are the times where we would put beethoven's 9th symphony on repeat and have a clear concience that we did the best we could as far as sound goes.

Although the notion that plants like good music may be very appealing to all of us, the truth -or rather the current model that we have for reality- is that plants only respond to sounds they know to mean something, through coded information in their genetics, like for example, the sound of a storm approaching. The high pitched sounds that birds produce. The ultrasonic frequencies that some incects can emmit. And many more that we may very well never know of.

Experiments on the application of sound to plants have been held out by scientists before our time, and even Darwin was convinced that plant growth could be stimulated this way. The frequencies that could be produced at the time though, were far below the threshold of the beneficial frequencies we are going to experiment with.

The audio range, which we can perceive, is generally accepted as the range up to 20KHz (or CPS). That is, 20.000 cycles per second, as in 20.000 vibrations of the sound wave per second. Plants have been found to respond well to the range of 20KHz up to 50KHz. The higher, the better.

Experiments done with those frequencies, have revealed a staggering increase in plant growth of up to 150%. Now, my fellow explorers, dont be hasty, meditate on this for a minute. That's a 150% increase, so not half times bigger plants, but two and a half times bigger. Experiments were done with radishes, and the above mentioned increase was an average on plants growing for just 21 days, compared to a control plant population, grown without ultrasound.

Now that I have your attention, let's dwelve into more technical matters.

DO IT YOURSELF-it's the best way to find out.

Remember those pest control devices that are advertised on TV, those that work with ultrasounds? Well, those are ultrasound generators. This is what we need to start our experiment. Unfortunately, those devices do not work on the required frequencies, and cost way more than they should. Maybe someone with more technical knowledge than me will be able to give us a how-to on tweaking such a device, as I am not an expert in technical stuff (actually I know only what I have learned through creating, maintaining and experimenting with my herb garden-we have the best hobby in the whole damn world fellow growers, hands down).

So, as I consider these devices not suitable for our kinds of experiments, lets start figuring out what we need to build our own ultrasound generator. It is cheap, and easy if you're good with tools or beautiful. I have some images that I have found some time ago, while researching this matter, but I don't think I am allowed to upload yet. Been a reader for a long long time, not a poster though. However, I have uploaded the images showing the materials needed, the prices, and a diagram of the generator's circuit here:MaterialzDiagram

Again, just to be safe, let me state that Those images are not my property, and although I have no idea where I have taken them from, or when, the rights are still probably held by the original creator.The materials needed will not cost you more than 20-25$, and if you know what you are doing, creating the generator should be a matter of an hour or so.The created device should be tweaked so that it emmits sound waves as high as possible close to the 50KHz limit, or, why not, even further, with unknown results. Do this by changing the value of the C1 capacitor. Smaller capacitor, higher frequency.Isolate the growing area so that as little sound as possible will circulate your house. If you have pets, those frequencies may very well harm them. Find a way to avoid this. Your pet may not show any signs of distress, but the impact the sound has on it may be vast through the course of several hours. I wouldnt want to imagine how it would be. Maybe like having a primadonna screaming in your ear all the fucking time. No pets. Those frequencies are above the human capabilities, and there hasn't been any evidence that they are harmfull for humans in any way. There hasn't been evidence for the opposite neither, though. Rediscover the meaning of the phrases "responsibly", "caution", "at your own risk". Do not invoke Dug's wrath.

Experiment. Change the timing cycle you have the generator on. Plants have been found to grow in the dark using ultrasounds. Experiment.

There are, offcourse, other ways of obtaining an ultrasound generator, like the pest control devices mentioned above. If someone knows another way, be sure to give us a hint.

OBSTACLES

For an experiment to be beneficial, it is my understanding that it must be shared, discussed, criticised, revised, refined, and finaly evolved. Thus, here are some results that I have seen happening to my plants, and you should know beforehand to produce better ones.

Plant growth- the plant growth indeed will blow your mind away. You may very well expect to see a huge increase in plant mass, and I'm not being funny. If you dont have the space to do this, then you will have to use a size controlling technique for your plants, like LST, Topping, SOG, ScroG and whatnot.

Another issue is the plant physiology. Plants grown under ultrasound waves grow SO fast, that they cannot absorb the needed nutrients fast enough. Thus, you need to provide them with tricky ways of getting what they need, or you will end with plants that are tall and thin. Do not be dissapointed though, here are some ideas that I have tried or researched, and that you can combine to get the results you want:

More light. More light. More light. Forget about 18/6 and all the other malarchey. Put your plants udner 24 hours of the most intense light you can get your hands on, and leave them there.

Co2- find a way to provide more Co2 to your plants, they're gonna need it.

More nutrients, fore often. Feed your plants as frequently as you can, they need more food, but if you give it to them all at once, you're gonna kill'em, mate. You need to make nutrient portions that you can give them as frequently as you can, so that they may absorb them. Again, Im not being funny. As frequently as you can, in small portions.

Foliar feeding. Feel lucky, punk? Well, if you do, or, even better, if you feel you know that you are doing, aeroponics yould be the way to go here. If not aeroponics, then get a sprayer bottle and suplement their feeding with micro-portions of foliar feeded nutrients. When I say "don't overdo it", do you get a funny feeling in your stomach? If yes, skip foliar feeding.

UVA and UVB light.-make 'em feel like they are in an orgiastic jungle enviroment. -Carefull mate, UVB can rain on your parade, and once the shit hits the fan with bad light radiating your skin/eyes, then my friend, it is gonna be a fucking shitstorm. Be carefull and responsible.

Up your temps a little. Don't overdo it.

Last, but not least, this technique seems to bind well with something else that I have only recently implemented. Electical root stimulation. Dont let it feel as bad as it sounds, plants use energy that they take through their leaves all the time. By supplementing this energy with >very< small electrical currents through their roots, I have achieved results worth hitting my extra-special reserve stash. More on this in another post.

Word of Caution!All the techniques mentioned here, are not something a novice grower should be experimenting with, at least not without extreme caution. I myself am not an expert in any way, and, as I mentioned before, I am just an intrigued mind, researching the possibilities that I stumble upon from time to time.. There are other members in this forum who can explain in detail all these things, and give you advice that can protect you from harming your plants.

..now that we are through with the formalities,

Go for it, mates. Exploring the various aspects of your garden, trying new things, experimenting, learning absolutely staggering pieces of information, achieving results unheard of, this is what this hobby should be about! Offcourse, the bud you will get out of the curing room for the first time, examine it under the light, smell it, and finally taste it, will be an awesome reward for your efforts. But dont passively do this only because you want pot. Enjoy it! Explore it! Its an awesome, rewarding occupation. Dont make it a mundane obligation. Do not invoke the wrath of Dug.

PS: These are things that I have either tried myself, or researched from information found in various sources. These are things and techniques that work for me. Use any of them with caution, and in your own clear concience. Research everything before you implement it. Ask around. Read. If someone does not agree with something said here, it is perfectly acceptable. I dont claim to have found something that works for everyone, but that works for me. Don't come telling me how I made you burn your plants, only because you were reckless. Don't attract the wrath of Dug. Dug's wrath. No.

-That said, I wish to everyone who gets on the same boat every success, try this for yourselves mates, these and other things, and share! Share, so that we may push a little further the envelope of creativity in our gardens. Do not keep things for yourself, no matter how revolutionary they are. Share. Do not invoke Dug's wrath.

Stephan88

Posted 12 May 2009 - 11:14 PM

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hey that is pretty damn interesting we just need some pictures of those plants that you have grown i would like to see a side by side of a plant grown with and a plant grown without, think it would work good with a hydro grow? I would attempt this but with 3 dogs in the house I certainly would not want to put their ears at risk very nice post tho

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 02:36 AM

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This does sound promising! I read some research on this topic awhile back about ultrasonic root stimulation, and the controlled study showed a large improvement in growth over a "quiet" group. But I believe that the study also showed that the plants in the "quiet" group were more desirable growth traits then the ultrasonic. The Ultrasonic group provided faster, taller growth at the cost of less branching, spindly stems, but overall really healthy plants.

Who knows???? I am more than willing to give it a throw, wife has a million of those Ultrasonic pest deterrents around, sure she will probably notice a couple are gone(oh well). So funny how she is soooo afraid of spiders and bugs.

Most of these ultrasonic devices use less then a single watt of electricity so where's the harm in trying??

Dug

Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:00 AM

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The Ultrasonic group provided faster, taller growth at the cost of less branching, spindly stems, but overall really healthy plants.

This was my main problem. You have to overcome this by providing growing conditions and feeding that would otherwise kill a plant. It really gives me the feeling of an out of control jungle canopy, everything must be in excess.

Most of these ultrasonic devices use less then a single watt of electricity so where's the harm in trying??

If you dont have pets then indeed, why not. Just try to get one of the more expensive devices, as these tend to produce higher frequencies. A good device should also have some kind of switch allowing you to select between two-three different frequencies. Just max this up.

think it would work good with a hydro grow? I would attempt this but with 3 dogs in the house I certainly would not want to put their ears at risk very nice post tho

Thank you:) Certainly, I dont see any reason for it not to work as well w/ hydro. Yeah, you're right, the 3 dudes that you have in your house would certainly not like this.

If you like experimenting with new stuff, try looking into root stimulation with photovoltaic cells Its not anything hard really, maybe I'll get to it and make a thread about it, pretty damn interesting stuff, mate.

Dug

Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:07 AM

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Found this in my hard drive, if I remember corectly its a statistical diagram showing plant growth of radishes over a period of 21 days, comparing plants stimulated with ultrasound, with a control population that wasn't.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:18 AM

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This was my main problem. You have to overcome this by providing growing conditions and feeding that would otherwise kill a plant. It really gives me the feeling of an out of control jungle canopy, everything must be in excess.

If you dont have pets then indeed, why not. Just try to get one of the more expensive devices, as these tend to produce higher frequencies. A good device should also have some kind of switch allowing you to select between two-three different frequencies. Just max this up.

Thank you:) Certainly, I dont see any reason for it not to work as well w/ hydro. Yeah, you're right, the 3 dudes that you have in your house would certainly not like this.

If you like experimenting with new stuff, try looking into root stimulation with photovoltaic cells Its not anything hard really, maybe I'll get to it and make a thread about it, pretty damn interesting stuff, mate.

Dug.

LoL, otherwise kill a plant, huh? I think I can handle that... I am changing my room all about with those Ceramic MHs, getting larger reflectors for larger footprint, New CO2 controller(ppm one now ), and making the dive into DWC *gulp* . Wish me luck!!

Dug

Posted 13 May 2009 - 11:06 AM

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Any advice on where to grab a good Ultrasonic Sound Generator?

You can ask around in a TV repair shop, they usually have one around, maybe even for sale. Otherwise, just grab from a store a rat ridder that actually has written on it the frequency that it produces.

If you take the circuit materials image that I posted to an electronics store, they will give you exactly what you need. You will also need a heat pen to glue the circuit, approx 10$. It will be an interesting work to pass your afternoon, just roll a fatty and get to it, I personally find working like this very relaxing.

LoL, otherwise kill a plant, huh?

Straigt to hell

I am changing my room all about with those Ceramic MHs, getting larger reflectors for larger footprint, New CO2 controller(ppm one now ), and making the dive into DWC *gulp* . Wish me luck!!

Oy, sounds good, good luck mate. Looks like the ultrasound system would be a good addition to your room, you have the equipment to support the extra growth, and seing how it will blend with DWC will be interesting. Keep it up.

Dug

Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:53 PM

Just found this site, seems that the benefits of using sounds for boosting plant growth has not completely escaped the attention of the cropping community. Although I think this product uses natural sounds, not ultrasonic frequencies, it claims to have a big impact on crops, both in growth and quality of the harvested product.

Dug

Posted 15 May 2009 - 11:34 AM

Quoting:"The stimulated plants are energized to synthesize greater quantities of food, during a given period of time, which naturally leads to greater yields." His method of musical stimulation, has even increased chromosome count of certain species of water plants, and the nicotine content of tobacco leaves."

How about that, huh?

Here is another one:""Ultrasonic" frequencies, markedly affect the germination and growth of barley, sunflower, spruce, jack pine, Siberian pea tree, and other seeds and seedlings. The experiments indicated, inexplicably, that enzyme activity, and respiration rates in plants, and their seeds, increased when they were stimulated by ultrasonic frequencies."

Its a pretty interesting article, although I suspect it should be taken with a pinch of salt^^

I have the feeling that sound is an unexplored tool, overlooked so far by the mj growing community. With the right experiments, we could unlock possibilities that we never thought existed.

Why do I get the feeling that I am alone in this shit? We need more people eager to experiment with their plants. The cost and risk is minimal, and the potential benefits are overwhelming! Get involved.

PS:~the author of this thread would like to kindly request that if you actualy try anything of the abovementioned techniques, don't be an asshole, share your results, if each one of us shares his findings instead of dicking around in his growroom alone, everyone will benefit. Cheers.

Dug

Posted 15 May 2009 - 12:59 PM

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Allright, so I just found out from Oxford's Journal of experimental botany (here) that plants actually emit ultrasonic and audible sounds through stem segments while dehydrating in air. Talk about some interesting info! According to this article, sounds produced are differentiated acording to the conduits dimensions. I wonder if a distinction can be made between sounds produced by male or female plants.

Knowing the impact that ultrasounds have on plants, it would be really interesting to see the response that plants would have to amplified sounds of the same frequency/harmonic that other plants produce. How about that, mates? Sounds produced from our trees?

First things first. It is now time to finally arm myself with a decent ultrasound meter/detector of some sort. Anyone with info on how to get my hands on one? Money is not an issue, offc.

smoove

Posted 18 May 2009 - 10:14 PM

The effects of sound on living organisms. Applications in agriculture.

By: Yannick Van Doorne, ecosonicAbstract

This presentation deals with the role played by sounds and music in living organisms and more precisely in agriculture. We begin with a brief explanation of physical aspects of sounds. After that we discuss more deeply the nature of music as a tool to access greater knowledge. This lecture presents knowledge to open a new consciousness of the interrelationships between subjects and objects and resonant mechanisms in everything. The role of music as form of communication between people but also with other living organisms, specifically with plants, will be approached. Ancestral traditions and their knowledge frequently mention the role of sounds for the health of men, plants and animals.

After this introduction, a brief overview will be given of some discoveries and theories that explain the influence of music on plants. Some of them involve possible activation of certain genes, cavitation processes, and influence on the permeability of membranes with some sound frequencies or sequences.

There are also resonant mechanisms that can be very interesting for applications in agriculture and human health care.Special attention will be given to a deeper explanation of the discoveries and implications of scale resonance and scale waves. The theory of scale resonance is a recent discovery by the independent researcher Joel Sternheimer, a former student of the famous physicist Louis De Broglie. Sternheimer extended De Broglie's theories and after long research in quantum physics and interest in music he discovered what is often called "the music of elementary particles ". This is a theory that means a great breakthrough in the understanding of physics, molecular biology, as well as the whole science.

A few experiments in agriculture will be presented that explain with great significance the good sense of the discovery. Treating plant organisms with specific sound sequences permits the verification of the theory by stimulating or inhibiting certain specific protein syntheses by scale resonance. This application verifies the specificity of the predicted action of a protein by research on specific protein sound sequences. Following this discovery a technique is already patented internationally as "Method for epigenetic regulation of protein biosynthesis by scale resonance". Applications in agriculture have shown it's great accuracy.

With a few examples I will demonstrate the great importance of this discovery for science and also for explanations of some important problems in today's world. This approach would give us new knowledge that could maybe enhance our creativity to flourish. A new tool for a whole new way to perceive the world we live in.

YANNICK VAN DOORNE is the author of the first thesis on Genodics, following the discoveries of Joël Sternheimer, entitled "the influence of variable sound frequencies on the development and growth of plants". It was presented with success in June 2000 at the Technical University of Gent, Belgium. Since then he is engineer in agriculture and biotechnology and independent consultant under the business name ECOSONIC. He works on development projects of applications following his research in agriculture and food-industry.

Presentation research and applications: Influence of sounds and music on plants.

Sounds can manifest themselves in many forms and shapes. So even the possibilities how certain sounds influence the growth and the development of plant have many forms and shapes. In 2000 I graduated with a thesis called : "The influence of variable sound frequencies on the growth and development of plants". To graduate as engineer choosing such a subject was not so simple because of the originality and the unconventionality of the subject. At the beginning the some professors were even very opponent to the subject and one called it ridiculous to authorise such a research in a school that respects himself. The same professor that told this say at the final presentation of the thesis that he stayed with his viewpoint that such a subject was better in a frame of a doctorate-thesis than for a end year thesis. It is strange how the same professor changed his point of view during the research.

Certain sounds and even some kinds of music can influence plant growth in different ways. A lot of ancestral stories testify the role of music on plants and even much recent research.One way is that certain sound frequencies could possibly activate certain genes in cells and so influence the growth and expression of the cells.A second way is that sound frequencies resonate with objects. With every object a resonant sound frequency can be found and calculate so that when playing that sound the object would resonate. Resonant mechanisms can have profound impacts like glasses that break, even on plants we can found resonant mechanisms.

So the stomata can vibrate and stimulate there opening and the air exchange, stimulate the exchange of carbon dioxide and oxygen with there environment. It is even through resonance with the stomata cavities that foliar nutrient and water uptake can be enhanced very effectively. This technique is famous as the Sonic Bloom applications of Dan Carlson. It helps plants growing in a very effective and musical way. The sound frequencies of nature sounds like songbirds in every day ion the early morning in springtime is probably significant for stimulating plants growth and seed germination. Scientific research of for example Weinberger et al. (1972) suggests and prove that in many ways.

Resonant mechanisms appears also with cell organelles. The resonance of cell organelles can influence their functions and the immediate neighbourhood. It is observed that around resonating objects the fluid moves more rapidly and is more intensely stirred. Some specific sound frequencies and oscillating sound frequencies enhance the cytoplasm movements within the cells. Those different scientific observations proves us the impacts that sounds can have on living organisms.

A third way sounds acts is with the cavitation phenomenon. Cavitation is a phenomenon caused by sounds in a liquid. Certain sound frequencies can causes the creation of microbubles that resonate with the sound. Those bubbles show very rapid resonance and they can also collapse causing important pressures that can causes damage to their neighbourhood like the cellwall or the cell contents. The oscillation of the micro-bubbles can causes microcurrents that could help the stirring or the translocation of cell cytoplasm, molecules and proteins.

A fourth way sounds interacts is the property of sound itself that exists as a wave propagating pressure variations. Those pressure variations can stimulate effects like movements of molecules like diffusion processes or stirring of liquids or air. Another possibility how sounds interacts is by the phenomenon that is called "scale resonance". The explanation of the process of scale resonance is discovered by the independent quantum physicist Joel Sternheimer. Issue from research in quantum physics comparing with vibration patterns of music he observed that the elementary particles behave in many ways in certain patterns respecting patterns of harmony and vibratory organisation that we could find back in music. This made him developing a method to influence the protein biosynthesis by scale resonance using some specific decoded sound sequences stimulating or inhibiting the specific protein corresponding with. To explain how it is possible I would recall how it is commonly know how proteins are synthesised.

Proteins are composed of amino-acids. Those amino-acids we obtain through the decomposition of our food, the plants build their amino-acids themselves with the absorption of plant nutrients and the help of the energy of light during photosynthesis. The genetic program in each cell which is contained in the DNA is used to build the specific proteins necesarry with the amino-acids. From the DNA a messenger RNA, mRNA, is build as a copy containing the information to build a protein. The mRNA moves to a ribosome in the cell where the protein would be build with the information containing in the mRNA. A ribosome is a very stable place, a kind of bench on which protein biosynthesis would be performed. On the other hand in the cell there are many transfer RNA, tRNA that carry amino-acids and bring them to the ribosome. The mRNA moves over the ribosome and inform each time which amino-acid have to bound to each other for obtaining a chain of amino-acids that become then a protein. So the tRNA brings one after the other the specific amino-acid to the ribosome like informed by the mRNA. A second tRNa brings an amino-acid to the ribosome that is linked to the first, and a third amino-acid would be linked to the second and so on forming an amino-acid chain. What is particularly interesting is what happens when at the moment when the amino-acid brought by its tRNA is being hooked onto the ribosome. Something happens that Joel Sternheimer discovered, namely that the amino-acid at that moment emits a signal. This signal is a wave of quantum nature which is precisely called a scaling wave. This means that it connects different scales together and more particularly the scale of each amino-acid to the scale of the processing protein. This signal has a certain frequency and a certain wavelength.

It's wavelengtht is given by a very classical formula known as the Louis de Broglie equation, ( ( h((m(). The equation of motion of this wave is a scale wave equation which includes a scale parameter, because the wave also propagates in scale and therefore connects different scales together. The general solution of this wave is a sum of waves analogous to light waves, but with speeds that are different. There is a fastest one and another one twice as slow, and still another one three times as slow, and so on. Schematically we can observe in protein synthesis the processing protein chain on one side and the amino-acids on the other side. At a given moment a wave is emitted from an amino-acid, then a slower one will arrive after a time twice as long, and a third one will arrive after a time three times as long, and so on. One will get periodic superpositions of the vibrations of the amino-acids.

If we look at the frequencies associated to each amino-acid and transpose them 76 octaves then we obtain audible frequencies. Those frequencies are musical, to each amino-acid corresponds a musical note. If we look at the succession of frequencies and musical notes corresponding to the succession of amino-acids in a protein and we enters it in a synthesiser then we obtain a melodie. Such a melodie is susceptible to stimulate the corresponding protein biosynthesis. Melodies in phase opposition will inhibit the protein biosynthesis. Proteins who share similar melodies will find themselves homologous, they will stimulate each other. It is also possible that proteins share melodies in phase and phase opposition so they tend to stimulate or inhibit each other. It is important to pay attention to those vibratory interactions between the synthesis of different proteins. For example with these technique it is sometimes possible to predict the function of proteins comparing there vibratory sequence to each other. It would also be possible to predict some possible side-effects of medication or certain vibratory sequences more quickly. These techniques could permit a significant breakthrough in molecular biology and give new ways for studying and understanding the properties and the functions of the proteins.

The protein melodies or proteodies we can hear acoustically are transpositions 76 octaves down of the quantum melodies of proteins. When organisms, whatever plants or animals, listen to the melody of a protein transposed, a resonance phenomenon occurs, which is scale resonance and will stimulate or inhibit, in case of phase opposition, the corresponding protein synthesis.

By way of illustration of the scale resonance phenomenon I set up two experiences on tomato plants in the glasshouses of the University of Gent during the period of end January till end March. One experience consists of subjecting two groups of 20 tomato plants in tropical glasshouses to drought conditions during two months and follow there growth responses. One group of them was treated daily with sound sequences or more precisely proteodies of the following proteins decreasing order ; extensins, dehydrine, cytochrome, thaumatine. The objectif was to observe the phenotepic responses of the epigenetic regulation, in this case stimulation, of the proteins. Extensins are very important in the elongation processes of plant cells, more extensins result in bigger cells causing bigger plants in the same development stage. Dehydrine is important as a major drought tolerance proteine. Plants produce dehydrine to protect them behind drought conditions and economise water resource. Plants with increase dehydrine synthesis are more tolerant behind dry conditions. The treatment of the tomato plants was only a few minutes a day. The results were that the treated plants grow as good as the others with the half of water needed, also they were a lot more dry tolerant. With the same water quantities given to the two plots, the plants treated grow a lot quicker and show a significant increase in length but with the same number of leaves that meant that they were in the same development stage. The importance of this application seems evident as a cheap technique to increase the drought resistance of the crops growing in arid conditions for example in Africa.

Another experiment was set up at the same time in a no-heated glasshouse. There were set up to groups of tomato plants, one of thirty and the other of eighteen plants. Before the group of thirty a sound speaker was placed as to treat the tomato plants to the specific sound sequencies. In that experiment the treated group was the one with the sound speaker just before them and the control group the one at the other side of the glasshouse and that was by this way also submitted to the sounds but because of there position with an very decreased intensity. The sounds sequences were the same as in the precedent experience with a major part composed of proteodies of extensines. The results were that the treated plants grew much faster then the control. The treated plants measured 30 cm more then the untreated after only two months. It was a very significant difference of more then 20%. The number of internods and flowers was the same in the two groups and that mean there were in the same development stage. So the length of the plants were different but not the stage of development. That means that the difference of length between the two plots could be explained by the developpement bigger plant cells rather then a increase in growth speed. It is interesting to point out the fact, that the stimulation of the synthesis of certain proteins, here extensines, by the corresponding specific sound sequences have phenotypic consequences that can be simply observed. The observations of differences in plant length corresponds and is by this way a confirmation of the predicted growth response of the plants submitted to the specific sound sequences of the extensines. This technique is by this non-invasive in his way of application method and measurement.

Figure : Number of internods and the lenght (in cm) during the experiment in the unheated glasshouse.

This method of scale resonance by submitting organisms to specific sound sequences to stimulate or inhibit the corresponding proteins is very useful as a tool to study the functions of the proteins.

It is also a very interesting technique to develop new ecological applications for agriculture to treat crops against diseases, to stimulate their growth in difficult climate conditions like to stimulate there drought resistance or certain specific properties of the plants like increasing active molecules for medicine applications. Three years ago I saw a beautiful painting of Marc Chagall called "Le souvenir de la flute enchantée" and next to there was a little text of him with "The bible is a resonance of nature". It sounds like music in my ears.

Maybe life on earth began as a resonance of the whole universe surrounding us. Scale resonance seems a hopeful and endless field of research, opening our senses as a new way perceiving the interactions and the developement of the world wherein we live.

Dug

Posted 19 May 2009 - 09:37 AM

Mindnumbling, Smoove, thumbs up mate. How haven't we thought about resonant frequencies? This gives me some great ideas! What this dude is actually proposing, is that with sound we can actually control the production and behaviour of specific proteins!!

Thats great info! Already trying to find out more about the molecular biology of cannabis plants. If I manage to reproduce this technique, it means that we'll be able to control specific aspects of our beloved tree's growth, like for example the production of THC. The posibilities seem to expand the longer we dwelve into this subject.

Got some homework to do, it seems. Got to find out more about the molecular resonation of proteins, and how this can be calculated. Its another field of research alltogether, and one I am not very familiar with, I'm going to have to start from the bottom up. Its a great opportunity to dive into genetics, I'm not gonna loose it.

Personally, I just throw flirtatious glances at my plants while playing the guitar and singing love songs. Still haven't found a more effective technique than this for incredible growth. Don't knock it till you try it!

I too am a fool for my ladies, mate. I'm sure they appreciate the music I play to them, at least they seem to, I hope they don't have any secret agenda^^. Truth be told, you can't be more right when you say that music and this feeling for your plants effects them.

If you are interested about this, just try the following experiment.1)Take two identical jars, fill them with cooked white rice, and close the lids tightly.2)place a tag on each jar. On the one jar it should say "bad", "shitty", "rotten", "doomed", "die", etc etc, and on the other one it should say things like "love", "happy" "live", "good", "beautiful" and stuff like that. 3)place them in a spot in the house where you frequently pass by. Every time you or someone else passes by them, he/she should encourage the good rice with good words, and curse the bad rice with the wors things he/she can think of.4)do this for a week.

I am certain that you will be as amazed as I was with the results. This will fully demonstrate the power of words. One jar will be almost ok, with white rice and little to no mold, while the other will look like hell, covered with green mold and smelling like shit.

Can any one point in the right direction with ak auto hydroponic not soil

The right direction for what mate? Aplying the ultrasound frequency techniques to your plants?

Posted 19 May 2009 - 01:00 PM

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkbpXRSIUnE&feature=related"]And here is a video![/ame]

Its no secret anymore even to our western culture, mates, words and sound are powerfull tools within our grasp! If these things happen to water, and we are 70% water, imagine what negative feelings and words do to us^^

Wrex

Posted 19 May 2009 - 01:44 PM

Wrex

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Hey everyone i am going to stop by and add my own to cents here. I am growing with Sonic Bloom and their special frequency device. I use it once a week and the plants LOVE it. I see dramatic growth after 24 hrs and am thinking of doing this more than once a week. But for now im gonna follow the directions. The foliar spray that they give you works great and is well balanced for the pot plant. I can post everything that is in it if you guys want. i will know after work today. I strongly suggest buying one of these units/foliar feed it helps immensly. I also use no nuts except this and superthrive:wave:

Dug

Posted 19 May 2009 - 01:55 PM

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Hey everyone i am going to stop by and add my own to cents here. I am growing with Sonic Bloom and their special frequency device. I use it once a week and the plants LOVE it. I see dramatic growth after 24 hrs and am thinking of doing this more than once a week. But for now im gonna follow the directions. The foliar spray that they give you works great and is well balanced for the pot plant. I can post everything that is in it if you guys want. i will know after work today. I strongly suggest buying one of these units/foliar feed it helps immensly. I also use no nuts except this and superthrive:wave:

Very interesting, mate. How much did you pay for the Sonic Bloom package?You got some pretty nice looking plant there