that may be true; but the more bodies that burn at the same time, the less time it takes to burn through a set amount. lmao.

you remind me of Black Israelites the way you're so completely obstinate in the face of facts.

like myself and Teq said, modern cremation isn't even a good example. the idea was to incinerate and dispose of bodies, not burn them into a fine powder. ovens may have improved since the 40's, but the furnaces available were more than adequate to the task. yes, but you can cook 80 burgers much faster with 80 skillets than you could with 1 skillet. lmao, this is ridiculous. you don't even get math, or basic reasoning for that matter.

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- You say that I don't understand basic math... but you have yet to tell me how many ovens (running 24/7 ) would have been needed to rid the camps of about 2.8 million people. (Back to the skillets... - You can burn more bodies, duh, but each body still takes a certain amount of time to finish regardless of the amount of ovens in use.)

- Then you say that they did not need to burn them into a dust, ok, then where are all of the half-charred bodies? Where did all of these body parts go? There are no records of mass graves of charred bodies, or body parts. So where are they? These remains of millions? Your imagination? (Source me a record where it records MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of charred body parts found within the camps.)

- You keep saying facts, what facts? All you're doing is replying to me without any actual data to back up what you're saying. If you know it's a fact, link a source below each statement so it can be looked up.

- For starters you can work on the math of how many ovens running 24/7 it would take to burn most of the 2.8 million into dust. I say dust, unless you can find this non-existent record of mass graves of millions of charred-body parts.

We are taught @ history that WW2 started from Deutch ppl pissed on what happened after WW1 and Hitler using that against Jews.
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Sort of but there is more to it than that, anti-semitism was a large part of the early Nazi regime, but it's significance started to wane when Hitler became chancellor. That's not to say that the state wasn't anti-Jewish, it was, but the focus shifted onto the German state itself, especially 'living space' (Russia and the east) and re-unifying the German peoples. The biological racism that continued was mostly the product of Himmler who was later stripped of his titles by Hitler and labelled a traitor, he was really big on the whole racial/eugenics thing.

Hitler on the other-hand would say things like...

"“I was shown a questionnaire drawn up by the Ministry of the Interior, which it was proposed to put to people whom it was deemed desirable to sterilize. At least three-quarters of the questions asked would have defeated my own good mother. One I recall was: “Why does a ship made of steel float in the water?” If this system had been introduced before my birth, I am pretty sure I should never have been born at all!” – Adolf Hitler"

Noncentz, why are do you think cremation is a useful baseline to use for the purposes of this discussion? Cremation is a funeral rite undertaken as as a mark of respect for the deceased. The incineration of jewish corpses by contrast was the opposite, a final insult to the dead. Cremation takes as long as it does(not always 2 and a half hours by the way) because there is a very specific purpose in mind, to leave the remains in such a state that they can be processed into a fine power and then given to the family. The nazi's obviously didnt give a shit about that. For them they were simply burning waste and they are hardly going to be wondering about the amount of carbon left in the resulting remains or how suitable it was for powderising.

Instead of analogising it to a hypothetical incident of mass cremation analogise it to the real incidences - much closer in terms of purpose and psychology - of mass culling of animals. In cases of infectious disease it is not rare for many millions of a country's cattle stock to be killed and burned in a single year. Either the world's veternarians are in on it or there is no insurmountable logistical difficulty in killing and burning millions of living things in a short period of time.

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Again, the problem with this is that if this was the case, a quick burning, there should have been millions of burned human remains found. Unfortunately nothing of the sort has ever been found.

I may sound dumb trying to explain things, but I was told that Germany had to pay after WW1 unfairly and that`s the shit that got Deutch mad.
My friend is a Jew and she refuses even conversate about politics between Arabs and Judes, so it`s a positive progress ppl can even talk about that.

I may sound dumb trying to explain things, but I was told that Germany had to pay after WW1 unfairly and that`s the shit that got Deutch mad.
My friend is a Jew and she refuses even conversate about politics between Arabs and Judes, so it`s a positive progress ppl can even talk about that.

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It was called the Treaty of Versailles and yes, it was a stupid, very stupid mis-calculation on the part of the allies.

As for the Israeli/Palestinian thing... that whole fucking area is a world cancer.

If you know that guns exist then why are you so adamant about a certain number not being able to be burned, and therefore it's impossible for that amount to die?

You sound stupid arguing that a gas chamber doesn't exist therefore that amount of Jews could not have died

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I never said they didn't die. I said that the crematoria story is impossible so therefore the numbers of those that died in camps cannot be as high as 'certain' sources claim and that they most likely died in war scenarios --Guns, Bombs, Starvation, Disease (shit goes rampant during war..).

- You say that I don't understand basic math... but you have yet to tell me how many ovens (running 24/7 ) would have been needed to rid the camps of about 2.8 million people. (Back to the skillets... - You can burn more bodies, duh, but each body still takes a certain amount of time to finish regardless of the amount of ovens in use.)

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Ok. I'll be extra generous here and round up for even numbers. Let's say there were 3 million killed and incinerated over 1000 days.

3mil ÷ 1000 = 3000 bodies daily. Assuming that one oven can burn up 24 bodies a day, we divide 3000 by 24 to get 125. So in this example, the Nazis needed at least 125 ovens to keep up with the genocide. that's not unrealistic at all.

- Then you say that they did not need to burn them into a dust, ok, then where are all of the half-charred bodies? Where did all of these body parts go? There are no records of mass graves of charred bodies, or body parts. So where are they? These remains of millions? Your imagination? (Source me a record where it records MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of charred body parts found within the camps.)

- You keep saying facts, what facts? All you're doing is replying to me without any actual data to back up what you're saying. If you know it's a fact, link a source below each statement so it can be looked up.

- For starters you can work on the math of how many ovens running 24/7 it would take to burn most of the 2.8 million into dust. I say dust, unless you can find this non-existent record of mass graves of millions of charred-body parts.

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lmao, once again you do a mr. fantastic reach. you go from assuming that every body had to be burnt to fine dust like a modern cremation, to assuming that they were left as half-charred bodies. the most likely answer is that they were burnt until they were mostly course dust, with flakes/bone fragments/clumps that could be easily disposed of. aside from incineration being the final insult, it had the utilitarian purpose of eliminating numerous dead bodies. this would help them cover the genocide, as well as solve the logistical problems associated with that many dead bodies.

and I could pull up plenty of sources, but that's not really necessary when you're speaking on common knowledge and widely published info. maybe you're using that as a diversionary tactic.

as for burn pits, those were used at times, especially towards the end of the war. Many mass graves from the Nazi era have been found. In fact they continue to be unearthed on occasion.

Here's more...they even burned this cock-strong Israelite to bacon...prolly because he refused to be a slave to Massa!..Kill that Nigra!...notice how the Israelite is defiant to the end, showing strength flexing muscles til death. oh and look at the big bad Edomite leaning next to the pole like "That's how we do you Nigraz!"

where did sympathy for either hangings or death camps become an issue.........people were needlessly killed........we are almost far enough away from ww2 to not have a direct connetion to the actual victims, eg my grandfather escaped but my 2 aunts were scientists and likely put to himler type work.........

but no one needs sympathy, many tragedies have happened, many happen still and things will always.......this is a numbers thing as it seems now, x cal kinda put a big leak in the one oven per person ploy.......but this is a good thread