Present giving on that certain day might certainly be pagan, I'd say most of it however isn't.Santa is Saint Nicholaus, and the Christmas tree is from modern Germany. The Christmas tree has pre-Christian predecessors, but you will always find parallels. Nothing is new under the sun, these are human cultural traditions.

"It is often said by the critics of Christian origins that certain ritual feasts, processions or dances are really of pagan origin. They might as well say that our legs are of pagan origin. Nobody ever disputed that humanity was human before it was Christian..." GK Chesterton.

Some Protestant Christians say that Christmas is from the pagns. In the past, people would worship SUN GOD on that day.

Thus, as a Christian , we should not join Christmas in order to separate us pagns' God and Pagns' day /festival.

What do you think of it?

We didn't adopt a pagan festival, we stole the day on which it was celebrated and used it to celebrate our own festival, which had been previously celebrated on Jan 6 along with the baptism of our Lord. The same thing was done with all-saints in the west. It doesn't mean that we celebrate pagan festivals, only that we stole their place on the calendar to make a theological statement with our own feast days that we used to replace them with.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who can watch the watchmen?"No one is paying attention to your post reports"Why do posters that claim to have me blocked keep sending me pms and responding to my posts? That makes no sense.

It will have a page dedicated to each question about the faith that, if I get asked it again, will make me scream. There will be the question, then one of those fancy swirls like you see in calligraphy, and under that, the answer in huge letters. Because it's one thing to have different beliefs - it's another thing for absolutely no one to give a rip about the answer, no matter how many times it's been explained. How many years have to go by before people get the idea that this sort of thing isn't true?

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who can watch the watchmen?"No one is paying attention to your post reports"Why do posters that claim to have me blocked keep sending me pms and responding to my posts? That makes no sense.

We didn't adopt a pagan festival, we stole the day on which it was celebrated and used it to celebrate our own festival, which had been previously celebrated on Jan 6 along with the baptism of our Lord. The same thing was done with all-saints in the west. It doesn't mean that we celebrate pagan festivals, only that we stole their place on the calendar to make a theological statement with our own feast days that we used to replace them with.

According to that article posted by Aedificare we didn't even do that. It was very good and not as long as it seems. I'd recommend it.

Garbage! I have a Protestant friend who, sadly, believes this heretical tripe. Santa = Satan?!? This comes from people who want to trash all traditions that are older than they are, save the Scriptures themselves, and have no knowledge of church history whatsoever. God save us from heretics and their false teaching!

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Some Protestant Christians say that Christmas is from the pagns. In the past, people would worship SUN GOD on that day.

Thus, as a Christian , we should not join Christmas in order to separate us pagns' God and Pagns' day /festival.

What do you think of it?

We didn't adopt a pagan festival, we stole the day on which it was celebrated and used it to celebrate our own festival, which had been previously celebrated on Jan 6 along with the baptism of our Lord. The same thing was done with all-saints in the west. It doesn't mean that we celebrate pagan festivals, only that we stole their place on the calendar to make a theological statement with our own feast days that we used to replace them with.

Actually, interestingly enough, the pagan holiday in question, the "Dies Natalis" of Sol Invictus (the Roman sun god), does not appear in historical record until after the first recorded celebration of a certain Christian holiday on the same day. In fact, Sol Invictus himself doesn't appear in any historical record until almost a full century after the birth of Christ. In all actuality, it seems that they stole the day from us.

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Do not gloat over me, my enemy! Though I have fallen, I will rise.Though I sit in darkness, the Lord will be my light.