No, it really isn't. It became one of Ronald Reagan's legacies, even though all he really did was sign the legislation, but in the 1970s the idea took root that involuntary institutionalization wasn't the best way to treat mental illness. Thus, the passage of the Mental Health Systems Act. This is the legislation that would ultimately lead to tens of thousands of mentally unstable people swelling the ranks of the homeless and prisons. It would also, indirectly, lead to one of Reagan's more famous gaffes when he spoke of many of the homeless being people who were "poor by choice." But, there is no doubt that making it very difficult to keep someone institutionalized without their consent had an effect on society.

No, it really isn't. It became one of Ronald Reagan's legacies, even though all he really did was sign the legislation, but in the 1970s the idea took root that involuntary institutionalization wasn't the best way to treat mental illness. Thus, the passage of the Mental Health Systems Act. This is the legislation that would ultimately lead to tens of thousands of mentally unstable people swelling the ranks of the homeless and prisons. It would also, indirectly, lead to one of Reagan's more famous gaffes when he spoke of many of the homeless being people who were "poor by choice." But, there is no doubt that making it very difficult to keep someone institutionalized without their consent had an effect on society.

has there been any factual reports about this kids "mental illness"?
were the columbine kids ever diagnosed "mentally ill"?
prolly ought to wait for the facts on this one...

you don't institutionalize kids who are shy/quiet/socially isolated...

False. His argument was the absence of god in public schools leads to the violence we witness.

It is not hard to see that his argument is actually that God should be in public schools because then this shit won't happen.

Which in turn makes the skeptic ask, why would God be so petty to allow a shooting to happen in a public school if God were capable of preventing it?

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I read that and I have read many of my friends posting similar things, As you know I am a non believer but most every believer ever thinks Jesus walks with them.. So if Jesus is with them all the time (the believers) is he not in the schools. Was this young man a believer, was he taught this at home, was there some reason to believe if he prayed at school he would not grow up to massacre these people... it is odd to me with the we need jesus in schools crowd as to why he suddenly isn't with them as they constantly say you know "jesus is my co-pilot"

What is it about the violence? Name your tune!!! Why is it that this kind of thing is happening in the last 20-30 years? Why did it not happen in 1900s, 1910s, 1920s,......1950s or 60s????? Please give us YOUR reason of WHY? Do you only sit back and complain about others and never provide solutions? Guess who does that, Rush, the FOX boys!!!!

I would say shooting a shit ton of innocents is a pretty good indication they ere crazy.

I have always thought that a person has become mentally unstable no matter the cause when they kill someone. I believe the wiring in our brains makes us sophisticated enough not to kill each other without good reason, some become mentally unstable when cheated on, or your life is threaten it is an instinctive unstable and sometimes people are just born missing some of the wiring and this causes some problems.

I have always thought that a person has become mentally unstable no matter the cause when they kill someone. I believe the wiring in our brains makes us sophisticated enough not to kill each other without good reason, some become mentally unstable when cheated on, or your life is threaten it is an instinctive unstable and sometimes people are just born missing some of the wiring and this causes some problems.

do you think you are totally mentally stable after your training that teaches you to shut it out. 87 were you not in the military, I think there is a certain aspect of military training that helps to desensitize soldiers which can yes be consider a mental stability issue, personally many of them can make a disconnect when finished or in war zones and then some can't

do you think you are totally mentally stable after your training that teaches you to shut it out. 87 were you not in the military, I think there is a certain aspect of military training that helps to desensitize soldiers which can yes be consider a mental stability issue, personally many of them can make a disconnect when finished or in war zones and then some can't

now you've reasoned yourself into a corner and you have to move the goal posts....
we're not talking about mental issues AFTER one kills.....
no...military training doesn't "desensitize" soldiers to killing....it helps them JUSTIFY it....just like i would justify killing if someone kicked in my door right now and tried to harm me or my family.....
people who kill are not all mentally unstable....

now you've reasoned yourself into a corner and you have to move the goal posts....
we're not talking about mental issues AFTER one kills.....
no...military training doesn't "desensitize" soldiers to killing....it helps them JUSTIFY it....just like i would justify killing if someone kicked in my door right now and tried to harm me or my family.....
people who kill are not all mentally unstable....

so you sit around an think about killing, most people do not most people are not pre wired to think about it but have instincts to not want to die, which is when the wiring comes loose buddy. We are like most creatures and not made to kill our own creatures unless there is fear or the wiring gets loose

so you sit around an think about killing, most people do not most people are not pre wired to think about it but have instincts to not want to die, which is when the wiring comes loose buddy. We are like most creatures and not made to kill our own creatures unless there is fear or the wiring gets loose

survival instincts are the hardest of wiring....
you're just trying to explain something you can't possible understand.....by saying "oh...they must be crazy"....
by all accounts...this kid....and the aurora shooter ...were both extremely bright people....
kinda like the.........what is the difference between them? or maybe they're similar....

so you sit around an think about killing, most people do not most people are not pre wired to think about it but have instincts to not want to die, which is when the wiring comes loose buddy. We are like most creatures and not made to kill our own creatures unless there is fear or the wiring gets loose

34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Yeah, that guy sounds like a dick.

I'm sorry you seem to regret your life, but there are a growing number of us that don't need superstition and mythology to fill whatever psychological hole may exist in our lives. What you are experiencing with your religion is nothing more than a release of dopamine. That's all it is; a simple, common, everyday chemical reaction in your brain. So keep your condescending bullshit about your "faith" and "gospels". Grownups are talking about real issues in the real world. Go be a fan boy somewhere else. Using school shootings as an excuse to push your religion is sick.

Pretty raged nerve ending there bud. Let's not confuse Gospel with religion and I'm not pushing anything just attempting to possibly explain what Mike was saying and later the idea that you might change your mind eventually.