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torsdag 28. mai 2015

No. 954: "Pastor" Jan Aage Torp is caught lying when he says things to the police and something completely different today. He has simply been too condescending to you that he has felt harassed by you told a person to me! Therefore, it is a lie Torp says!

No. 954:Pastor" Jan Aage Torp is caught lying when
he says things to the police and something completely different today. He has
simply been too condescending to you that he has felt harassed by you told a
person to me! Therefore, it is a lie Torp says!

After what he said to me, is just this post on
Searchlight so revealing. That it is 200% guaranteed Torps review you
Christensen is fictitious and false accusations:

Notice that he calls me Wellness blogs, this agrees
perfectly on Torps yourself, no one else. And I go cheerfully to prison for
this is an outright miscarriage of justice if I am being ordered to pay $ 1. or
more!

Should you wanted a "desire opponent", as
Jan Kåre Christensen "perfected".

Here there is not even a doubt areas. Any sane realize
that this does not apply #Religionsfrihet and #Ytringsfrihet.

Anyone who has followed him for more than 1-2 weeks,
you realize that the criminal case against him relating to his personal
vendetta against many, especially gjengiftede who got a new chance after sin
and / or mistakes; his aggression and anger toward Christianity in general and
charismatic preachers in particular (like a certain human-ethicist); disclosure
of fellowmen private life; and my words from the police, which is essentially
the Police charge: #Personsjikane #Netthets #Mobbing # Defamation

At Christensen does exactly as I expected and wrote for
a couple of days pages: To start a new round against me on his blog - it makes
him simply makaløs! #Uforlignelig.

And this where Torp not get pushed me down far enough:

Jan-Aage Torp

Christensen is even worse than I thought: Now
relaunches his regurgitation of Emanuel Minos. The man Jan Kåre Christensen!
This he lives for. I am appalled that he will once again devastate honorable
man Emanuel Minos. Minos' family will not even be given a break for the
Christmas before Christensen slurps his own regurgitation.

(End of quote).

Has encouraged more people to look at what Torp said
to the police and I have been charged. And what he has written online about me.
Everyone says the same thing that this is a lie from Torp page. He is thus
revealed by his accusations against me are false and fabricated!

One person said: "He has simply been too
condescending to you that he has felt harassed by you told a person to me!
Therefore, it is a lie Torp says! ". Actually speaking Torp with two
tongues when talking than not true!

Forked tongue

I've now got more to look into the matter between me
and Oslo Police / Jan Aage Torp

First I have presented what I am charged with. For
harassment and other fabricated things. But I have now shown it to them. And I
have shown them what Torp has written about me online. On his Facebook page,
website and Searchlight.

Where has all that one said that when one looks at as
low a person Torp do with me, so he feels of course not themselves harassed. On
the contrary, he feels exalted over me! Therefore the police are doing by
keeping with Torp, keeping but one person who directly misleads them here!

Diverge between what Torp says to the police, and what
else he speaks against me have shed him and revealed him as a liar!

Taking some what different people have written in
Searchlight lately:

Ellen M Boe

Torodd. Brother Christensen believed that some
comments were threatening and direct falsehood. I think he did it for the sake
of the family. But freedom of expression is in Norway so therefore Christensen
go victorious from this conflict.

Ellen M Boe

The Bible condemns remarriage and everything Jan Kåre
has made is the preaching truth as God's word speaks. It is not Christensen who
violate, but word.

Ellen M Boe

The good Christensen is fully entitled to put forward
their opinions.

That some feel offended, their own problem Torodd, and
not his.

When Torp and others feel offended, it's their own
fault and that

Christian man Torodd should know that it is sin which
they live that wreaks havoc

conscience and not Christensen's opinions. Freedom of
expression must have

right of way and I can not with my best sense
understand that Oslo police are taking this case to court. Completely hopeless
case they run.

Freedom of expression is a cornerstone of Norwegian
society and freedom of expression will always take precedence over the
individual sore toes.

This goes against the full victory of brotherly Jan
Kåre.

(End of quote).

Quotes from "Pastor" Jan Aage Torp who tells
about his view of me. When one has such a low standing view of a person experts
say, then becomes not violated or harassed by that. As the psychopath and the
narcissist Torp is, he's probably wise police. But people do otherwise, and
certainly not me!

And here he points to the degrees of me, he can not
feel harassed. He lacks any kind of respect and recognition of me and my
opinions. Therefore it is obvious that he is lying if he feels in so many weird
and whimsical note stuff! There is only one reason why he has fabricated this
review and lied. It is to remove me and the Heavenly blog from the net!

One person mentioned especially this quote that
reveals Torp as a psychopath and his view of me, "I consider Brynjar
Meling as a serious lawyer. If he considers Jan Kåre Christensen to be
appreciated his services, it would have surprised me. The category of anonymous
net roll should either passed over in silence, or perhaps rather be stroked. »

Notice the wording appreciated his services. I'm not
worth a shit, of course not feel Torp insulted and harassed me, everything is
game, manipulation and deception from beginning to end! I shall be seen, but at
the same time, he has been harassed. This is a lie and fabricate lies from
Torp's side against me to achieve their fraudulent and ugly intentions.

Jan-Aage Torp

It's almost too funny to be true, but Christensen
publishes photo of Brynjulf ​​Meling / Mullah Krekar. He dreams about photo
well by Brynjar Meling / Jan Kåre Christensen ....

The fight for freedom of speech!

The 'right to spread terror and intimidation, the
right of others to harass, clergy, bully and defame :-)

This stunt is that obtained from Strategy Handbook for
the party "The Christian".

Jan-Aage Torp

I am considering Brynjar Meling as a serious lawyer.
If he considers Jan Kåre Christensen to be appreciated his services, it would
have surprised me.

I think that this "commitment" only exists
in Jan Kåres head, possibly together with the head of his faithful party
staples-cheerleader at Southern :-)

My donation of 10 dollars will probably never be paid
to Brynjar Meling, but rather had to be used to finalize Christensen's major
Bible translation project :-)

Jan-Aage Torp

It is impossible to have real compassion for
"myself" and his violence-prone acquaintance who was not taken
seriously by police. An anonymous comment of this kind is surely only an attempt
to undermine the credibility of the case which has been promoted by the police
as a criminal case against Jan Kåre Christensen. I suppose "myself"
is another of Christensen's "alter egos". Putting violent crimes
against online harassment is an inappropriate exercise. "Myself" and
"I agree with Jan Kåre" and similar anonymous "network
roll" has zero credibility, and should not be taken seriously by
Searchlight, whether we will actually be serious about the fight against cyber
sake, person harassment, defamation and bullying. The category of anonymous net
roll should either passed over in silence, or perhaps rather be stroked. I
think the spotlight should consider a login solution that ensures the anonymous
web roll.

Jan-Aage Torp

You've done a fine job on sokelys.com for truth and
respect, Kjell Andersen! Christensen has definitely neither a mission from God
or man. He is fighting his own case.

Jan-Aage Torp

Jan Kåre Christensen derives strong stuff that I have
termed his actions as "pathetic". He writes in his latest blog:
"I'm worse than pathetic, in other words, all hope is lost. Why bother so
much about a person as there is no hope for, or improvement opportunities?
Pathetic means a person who displays contempt . When Torp thinks that I'm worse
than that, then he looks at me as Satan. " Here is a little enlightenment
for Christensen about the meaning of the word "pathetic", taken from
Ordnett: pathetic - one that is marked by pathos; flown: a pathetic style 2
tragic; poignant and medynkvekkende: a pathetic sight / it was pathetic to see
how he had busted

I will come to mediation Mediation concerning criminal
case against Christensen in the hope that he voluntarily promise to shut their
blogs for all person harassment, now also against police attorney. But I consider
it unlikely that he voluntarily agrees self policing. But we have been patient
and sober for several years, and realize that soon Christensen is history. Now
he plays just like the rest of his repertoire becomes increasingly distorted.

Jan-Aage Torp

I hope that it's okay for Kjell Andersen and
sokelys.com that I present a link here to my own blog where I have pasted my
response to the signature "Rune": http://pastortorp.org/2014/10/02/
Biblical texts and assessment-of-divorce-and-remarriage /. (This is deleted as
all Torp writes against me and he takes care of it all for using it against you
later. This just shows what a person facing us).

I do this in order to avoid a potentially promising
debate will be destroyed by a breaker systematically Norwegian Penal Code with
its network's performance and personal harassment.

You wrote: "Torp you learn and believe in the
so-called" innocent "party. Okay, now both you and your right or
former wife re-married, who of the two of you are living it in an invalid
marriage? You can not both be innocent? I got very often 6 in math in school,
but here requires a mere 1 class level to understand that this is not true. But
you're too cowardly to respond? "

First, I must congratulate you that you very often got
6 in math at school

I can not comment on my ex-wife, but I wish her all
the best.

Jan-Aage Torp:

Thank you for your nice review of my dear wife, Torodd
Fuglesteg! We totally agree about her

Jan-Aage Torp:

Good morning, Rune! Nice that you take the time to
read and reflect on what I have written. Thanks for that!

You write: "One can not build its interpretation
on the basis of a verse." This is absolutely right, Rune. It is the sum of
the Holy Scripture we must stick to. And we can not engage in word-dissection
of Greek and Hebrew words (which requires considerable linguistic insights from
2-3000 years ago) without having made thorough studies. I note that you
conclude because of something you have intercepted in a concordance or lexicon,
and this does not hold water.

It is interesting that you write the word
"shalach": "But we believe that in this case is important to
follow the rule ...." So do you have a choice ... interpretation.
Interestingly hehe .... This shows how complex these conditions are ....

I know you can neither Greek or Hebrew, Rune. No shame
there! But a little humility we should have. Even jeh is usable in NT Greek
after one year painstaking Greek studies at Fuller Theological Seminary, but
mostly I realize that I do too little I studied Hebrew at full time for three
months at the same faculty, and it's very, very demanding.

JKC is probably the only person on the planet earth
that actually mean to translate the Bible without being able neither Hebrew or
Greek, and the truth is his understanding of English and Norwegian rather
limited too.

There are on Norwegian soil one man as the most
conservative views on marriage and divorce should learn from, namely priest
Ragnar Andersen. He is in the same school as deceased bishop Arne Rudvin.
Ragnar Andersen's new book on the subject are healthy ratings and real
knowledge. Øyvind Kleiv's book builds however superficial and cocksure votes
projections. Ragnar Andersen (and Bishop Rudvin) is principled opponent of
remarriage, but treat me with respect, and it provides a basis for
conversation.

Jan-Aage Torp:

JKC: I replied Mrs. Ingwersen gently on her violent
words and statements, and you announced all together .... Anyone can read
yourself on your blog.

Jan-Aage Torp Wed, 10/01/2014 at 8:19 p.m. said:

JKC, you practice untruths over and over again, so you
can start believing them yourself!

I quote here exactly what I wrote about them on my
blog, the last fifth of a blog article: http://pastortorp.org/2014/09/29/grumsete-kristenparti-som-vil-kriminalisere-skilsmisse-og-selvmord/.

"I note that the government Co-Founders (2 of 4
founders) of the party in 2013, Randi & Johnny Ingwersen, are strong
defenders of blogger Jan Kåre Christensen, the harasses, defames, bullies and
online clergy all who are divorced, remarried, and as he dislikes the way (and
there are many). Here there is a murky cohesion between "The
Christian" / Magnar Tanem on the one hand, and Jan Kåre Christensen
developing Heavenly blog on the other side, interconnected by Randi &
Johnny Ingwersen. "

This is not bad at all, but a reflection on the
relationship between her repeated public support for JKCs views on divorce on
the one hand, and her party Norges Christians view that divorce must
criminalized.

JKC, you are .... Yes, I should not say it, hehe

Jan-Aage Torp:

I've got a good impression of sokelys.com and Kjell
Andersen after I suddenly began to follow here one week ago.

Kjell emerges as a man with great ideals.

I understand that Kjell and I probably disagree on
some key points regarding divorce and remarriage. I think we both live well
with, and we can undoubtedly call constructively with each other about this,
which I'm guessing we're going to do, at some point in the future.

But the debate format and language docks in
sokelys.com I can not accept, and will hardly be much to see here. I
"pull" me, but I will probably not often here.

Probably JKC contributed badly to destroy and sour
debate climate. A little leaven leavens the whole lump. I will not participate
in any forum where such a man have virtually free access to the publication.

I believe in mutual respect.

God bless Kjell Andersen and sokelys.com!

Jan-Aage Torp:

I have noticed that Rune Staven requested my answers
to his questions. And the police Reviewed blogger reiterates its regurgitation
in the continuation of this.

And I said Rune pole on the same line as his question
was presented this morning at 6:48. What's more, he expects, realize I'm not.

But here's the same answer also on my personal blog
tonight, and with a little addition, and presented independent of his question:
http://pastortorp.org/2014/10/01/min-frimodige-overbevisning-om-skilsmisse-og-
remarriage /

Jan-Aage Torp

I allow myself to link to my latest blog article from
yesterday evening: "The criminal case against Jan Kåre Christensen leads
to good things!" http://pastortorp.org/2014/12/12/straffesaken-mot-jan-kare-christensen-forer-til-gode-ting/

It may be fine
for Søkelys' readers and commentators to know that we are pleased the good
performance of disclosures of Christensen's old and new alliances, rumor
spreading and halvkvedede shows from "dealer" (also called
"Serb") which is belted out by Christensen Google Phone etc..

Actually it is an advantage that things are said
explicitly. Then we present the necessary documentation, answering open and
honest communications etc. In that sense must Christensen gladly stay on a
while longer. A round of Attorney Meling will probably not come, but somehow
unthinking law-figure who needs 10,000 dollars from Christensen will be useful
for that even more will be said explicitly pending as "rumors" and
party posts in the media.

To say, as we say in Texas: "Bring it on,
Bud!"

Jan-Aage Torp

Thank you for your point of view and advice, Arnt!

I kept silent between 2008 and 24 / 9-2014, and do not
regret it.

But after 24 / 9-2014 I have engaged me in Searchlight
and occasionally on my blog. I'm not above debate, but think it is a phase in
the case where clear, honest dedication is a strength. I write of course only
certain thing that I think could lead case forward to a happy solution. I
"use" not pseudonyms, fake profiles, "straw men" etc.
"What You See Is What Yu Get!" The winner in the long run!

Jan-Aage Torp

Should you wanted a "desire opponent", as
Jan Kåre Christensen "perfected".

Here there is not even a doubt areas. Any sane realize
that this does not apply #Religionsfrihet and #Ytringsfrihet.

Anyone who has followed him for more than 1-2 weeks,
you realize that the criminal case against him relating to his personal
vendetta against many, especially gjengiftede who got a new chance after sin
and / or mistakes; his aggression and anger toward Christianity in general and
charismatic preachers in particular (like a certain human-ethicist); disclosure
of fellowmen private life; and my words from the police, which is essentially
the Police charge: #Personsjikane #Netthets #Mobbing # Defamation

At Christensen does exactly as I expected and wrote
for a couple of days pages: To start a new round against me on his blog - it
makes him simply makaløs! #Uforlignelig.

Jan-Aage Torp

It's almost too funny to be true, but Christensen
publishes photo of Brynjulf ​​Meling / Mullah Krekar. He dreams about photo
well by Brynjar Meling / Jan Kåre Christensen ....

The fight for freedom of speech!

The 'right to spread terror and intimidation, the
right of others to harass, clergy, bully and defame :-)

This stunt is that obtained from Strategy Handbook for
the party "The Christian".

Jan-Aage Torp

Christensen is even worse than I thought: Now
relaunches his regurgitation of Emanuel Minos. The man Jan Kåre Christensen!
This he lives for. I am appalled that he will once again devastate honorable
man Emanuel Minos. Minos' family will not even be given a break for the
Christmas before Christensen slurps his own regurgitation.

Jan-Aage Torp

I read now that Christensen needs 4,000 kroner
deductible to pay Attorney Meling so he can "see" in his case.

Then I will remind you that Christensen only needs
3990 kroner after that I transferred 10 million on Friday which will be on the
account of "Smyrna" tomorrow morning, Monday, 12.15.
"Smyrna" Naturally, no account, then this imaginary construction is
not a legal entity, then either receives Berit Christensen or Jan Kåre
Christensen this 10-coronation, and they must naturally tax of this gift, as
well as other 10 coronations given them in the coming days. I expect naturally
signing for receipt of donation :-)

Harassment trial begins September 17th. Wellness blogger
can get 2 years in prison.
http://www.oslokirken.no/maler/artikkel/article/124181

(January Aage Torp quotes Finally there are incredible
lot more and far worse.)

I got feedback that I had simply revealed a
psychopath. Think this is true!

See here the article on this topic:

The victims psychopath!

Do victims of psychopaths and narcissists some traits
that make them especially vulnerable or susceptible to becoming victims? In the
literature, such persons often described as tolerant, sacrificial, and able to
help others often at the expense of themselves.

They are often described as full of life and energy. I
do not think these people are gullible, but they believe good about other
people. This alone is no specific evidence of victims. Most people would rather
believe good about their fellow man. It is actually one of the reasons why
victims are not believed when they tell their stories.

People skills not actually believe so bad about a
person when someone describes them as psychopaths or narcissists. but such
people in combination with a psychopathic individual, is a combination that is
dangerous for the victim. The psychopath holds on until he / she has found such
a personality. Then put every effort to manipulate them. And manipulation
occurs often in a form that the victim can having three to supportive above.
With the victim's natural systems and capabilities in order to
"help", this becomes a "unilateral symbiosis" as the victim
think it gets something in return by the misunderstood good feeling of helping
someone, while psychopaths get a victim to "dump" all their problems
. This misguided symbiosis continues until the victim becomes aware of what it
is exposed to.

A move that recur with victims, is the desire to help
others. This can be both conscious and unconscious and shallow in both real
desire to help as much as an expression of the self was not helped in his
younger days. Unproven in situations where self-sacrifice becomes so large that
it affects the person himself. In such cases, not victims aware of this before
they even begin to get as big problems that their normal functioning halt. They
are being burnt, or they end up in a state of depression or illness that often
noted by others or they in some cases become aware of themselves, when they see
that it goes out over others. They may feel that something is wrong and that
they want out of it, but the capabilities not take any initiative in the lack
of understanding of what is wrong. It may be that one of the two parents see
that it goes beyond the children. Such external event occurring may be what
wakes them from victimhood and actually renders the person in a very short time
become aware of the illusion it lived in. The individual becomes aware of what
it has been exposed.

Psychopath "dope" techniques are revealed
and with it comes the shock of what happens, but at the same time also comes
uncertainty about what and how this could happen. The victim is in In a
confusing investigative phase. Uncertainty is not something minor that nobody
believes victims when they tell what is happening. it contributes to confusion
and uncertainty.

Indeed, it may tell anyone about their experiences
contribute to the confusion one experiences. Do what you describe really
happened? Is it as bad or there may be other more logical explanations? Doubts
and uncertainty one feels often contributes to that takes a long time to get
out of the grip of the psychopath, if you ever manage it. And the psychopathic
individual will try to get you silenced for fear of being exposed. When I write
silenced I do not mean physical liquidation, but that everyone around one ends
up condemning the victim. A mechanism put in sens and triggered by psychopaths
themselves. That victims realize what it is exposed to is no guarantee of getting
out of the psychopath's claws. On In the started a prolonged and devastating
battle.

All you basically end up as victims of a psychopath.
Even those who know and should know being cheated. Psychologists and
psychiatrists can just as easily end up as victims and those who have insight
in this issue tells him it is a mechanism that those who become victims,
"expects" to be proven or unproven. Factually, for example.
Psychologists often manipulated precisely because they think they know. But all
too often they themselves victims of their own

prejudice and lack of insight In the psychopath
nature. To read about this issue is not the same as experiencing it. Thus,
those with the most knowledge of the psychopath's behavior, victims of
psychopaths and those in special institutions actually treat this kind of
people. The problem is that no one seems to believe them when they tell of
their knowledge about their experiences. In that it has become a taboo subject
to talk about, helped psychopath In pulverizing and distort mention of his own
behavior. At that many ordinary people have apparently taken in use the word
"psychopath" as a dirty word, pulverized its grave nature.

In a way it's expected. The psychologists do not
foresee however

consequences of victimhood. Some say that you can
decide whether you want to become a victim or not. Such an attitude is not
possible when it comes to victims of psychopaths. They will not enter In
victimhood voluntarily. Indeed, that most do not see that they have become
victims until it has been many years! When a victim is defined as a person who
lives life

by another person's dictation will be right above
psychopaths. Other victim roles can ponder the individual's own weakness for
their appetites. Faced with psychopaths, however the reason why one becomes a
victim often be complex, with contributions from both psychopath manipulations
and own urges, thoughts and ideas.

The psychopath is a master in finding an individual's
weak points and mastered intelligently pressing these points in their
manipulation and suppression of the victim. Being a victim is an element of
being controlled. Control over others is indeed one of the most characteristic
features of psychopaths. But actually it is not control over others is primary,
but an attempt to control their own problems, difficulties and weaknesses. To
achieve this, however threatening environment under control. The victim is a
form of "pain dustbin" for psychopaths must be kept under control.
Outwardly as visible to others is, however, the controlling behavior, but it
requires that you have the knowledge to see. And it is often this behavior that
helps to reveal psychopath.

After being checked is also an "acceptance"
In being controlled. A woman with a psychopathic husband will for quarters of
home guilt accept a certain controlling behavior. This is based on the naive
belief that if she gives a bit so there will be peace and tranquility.
Unfortunately, there is no peace and quiet psychopath want. It recurs in
literature descriptions that psychopaths thrive in "battle". A
psychopath never gets complacent. Victims are continually exposed to ever new
expectations to be met. Not for expectant sake, but to prevent the victim in to
get loose and get the energy to see that it is being held down. The psychopath
is not interested in solutions. They are interested in occupying the victim's
consciousness with a constant sense of insecurity for their adequacy. Occupy
victim with anxiety for what happens if expectations are not met. In this way,
the victim entangled In a fatigue condition it difficult emerges. And the
"genius" In the psychopath's behavior is that the victim apparently
to begin with do not see that it becomes entangled in this evil spiral.

While normal feeling obligations to their loved ones,
do not feel any obligation psychopath. On In the mean psychopath that others
have obligations for themselves. It becomes a one-way communication where the
victim should give and give, while the psychopath will get and get, or rather
demand everything. what is special about this is that it often takes many years
before the victim realizes what is happening. This is associated with a habit
habituation. psychopath begins with small doses of expectations and puts it
often against the victim's natural ability to give! Gradually increasing the
dose slowly but surely and eventually perceive victim this as a normal state
until an event, another person or a trauma wakes up the "give everything
psychopath" - the attitude it becomes entangled in. This is of course

further complicated by the fact that the victim is
exposed to the claim that it is selfish ending to "give" to the
psychopath. While the psychopath plays the victim's natural ability to be
devoted and tolerant capabilities psychopath invoking the victim's guilt about
it trying to secede from victimhood.

Although many blame the victim for allegedly allowed
himself controllers to use, it is not right to blame the person for this. it
just makes matters worse. Firstly, there have been unconsciously, and secondly
there is no equivalent tolerance which also psychopath shows tolerance. he does
not know what is. There is a one-way communication of feelings for the other,
from the victim to the psychopath. A psychopath capabilities not give neither
emotion or love. It apparently love is

nothing but a learned pattern of action to look like
love. A nature as psychopathic are pr. definition loveless. It is like
programming a robot to give you a hug or say "I love you". It sounds
right, but it contains no emotion. And the reason for that is that emotions are
both good and bad. They are characterized by both laughter and tears. Together
they constitute real feelings, emotions only a holistic man can exhibit. And a
psychopath is not regarded as a holistic human being, no matter how tolerant
you are. For it is there for major deficiencies around feelings and conscience.

It is striking to see how the victims of psychopaths
slowly changing behavior and demeanor. From being full of energy, they go to
join efforts solve, depressed and anxious. Thus, a positive person does not
need to manipulate others. They have good self-esteem and do not get this
confirmed in one set. They have faith in themselves. it has not psychopaths.
She had it, she would not have needed the pathological confirmation located in
the manipulative behavior. Those who constantly need confirmation of his ego
and lack this inner satisfaction. Unfortunately, this is a sign of the times
that people Increasingly scope get this uncertainty. It can have many causes,
but reasons often in the expectations and pressure people are exposed to and
expose themselves to. Thereby adding also the foundation that psychopaths will
facilitate game. Only by eliminating inner turmoil, we can counteract that we
end up as victims.