Intel is going to ship an updated cooler with their upcoming Haswell-E processors. The new cooler's product name is tagged under SKU code TS13A, and can manage up to 140W of heat (which would be the ...

Well I give Intel an A for effort because they are not using those stupid push pin coolers that they have been using I think some time during the socket 775 era. We will have to wait and see how effective these new coolers are compared to the standard haswell and devils canyon coolers. I think they will be more effective.

Agreed - I always keep my heatsinks, including ones from defective motherboards and power supplies. I have a small drawer full of different kinds. It's not just good for emergencies but once in a while I get a CPU that never came with a heatsink (or it was for a BTX board where they use different mounts). Once in a while I encounter a board where the northbridge is just a little too hot and I think "hmm, I better replace this". I also sometimes use them for other non-PC related projects.

Intel is going to ship an updated cooler with their upcoming Haswell-E processors. The new cooler's product name is tagged under SKU code TS13A, and can manage up to 140W of heat (which would be the ...

lol, they should bundle non heatsink, i think i never installed any of their stock heatsinks ever, they're crap as hell, if they could cut the price off a little bit shipping their CPUs without the heatsink it would be a brilliant move, the funny thing is they use to request serial number of heatsink for RMA, as if their heatsink were the ultimate cooling solution on planet earth

So, they package a cooler that is 20 cents more expensive (I'm probably grossly overestimating that!) that nobody will use, most likely as an excuse to charge an extra $50 for the CPU claiming it's because of the new cooler. The new CPU's are probably cheaper to make, so it potentially just harmonises the price with the older CPU's.

they could save themselves and us alot of money by just not inculding this garbage especialy with the k models. They could reduce a ton of weight and space for shipping and we wouldnt be stuck with garbage.

While I definitely agree that it'd be better if intel (and AMD for that matter) would stop shipping heatsinks, what a lot of you don't realize is regardless of you THINKING they're bad, they're sufficient and were packaged with the CPU to help protect these companies from stupid people who put on the wrong heatsink, or didn't put one on at all. Yes, the CPU will run hot, but it should still perform fine.

If you really want to avoid getting heatsinks, go with server models. Many of those don't come with one.

While I definitely agree that it'd be better if intel (and AMD for that matter) would stop shipping heatsinks, what a lot of you don't realize is regardless of you THINKING they're bad, they're sufficient and were packaged with the CPU to help protect these companies from stupid people who put on the wrong heatsink, or didn't put one on at all. Yes, the CPU will run hot, but it should still perform fine.

If you really want to avoid getting heatsinks, go with server models. Many of those don't come with one.

^Actually I was surprised how cool a10-7850k is on stock cooler + stock clock. With custom fan profile like on MSI boards you can keep it under 60°C while gaming on APU = CPU+iGP.

But yes, I believe they should have availability of same CPUs with and without cooler.