This isn't derailing the thread this thread is about the Hells Angels and Jay Dobyns and here you are claiming that 1%ers are just some fun loving
clubs who want to give stuffed animals to kids at hospitals.

Your spreading nonsense.

Do you know what it takes to earn those patches? The 1%er patch in particular?

Have you heard the phrase blood in blood out before? You think its a joke?

Im not talking about 1 piece patch clubs with no bottom rockers im talking about serious clubs like the Outlaws, HA's, Pagans, their all blood in
blood out and you have to put in work to wear their colors.

Your fool to think you could know what a 3 piece patch MC club is doing behind the scenes from a few rides or a few beers or because you hang out at
the local watering hole.

Point one, you don't know me, don't presume to tell me what I do and don't know.
point two, I picked you up on your assertion about wives and daughters. That has nothing to do with this case and is groundless.

If you want to play the ignorance game, fine.
produce some evidence to back up your assertion that to gain a patch you must give the women in your family over to the club.

Read the case details. Look at the investigation and what they uncovered. Look at all the cases in te United States involving bikers and the top four.

The writing is on the wall.

You are a shill.

I'm the shill?
I'm not the one rehashing tabloid lies, I'm not the one who is talking rubbish about people I'm too scared to mix with, I'm not the one who can't
provide evidence for my claims.
You are, you had hours to reply and you couldn't find one thing to back up your mad little claim, all you could do is call me a shill in your whiny
little voice. You're a joke pal.

Read the case details. Look at the investigation and what they uncovered. Look at all the cases in te United States involving bikers and the top four.

The writing is on the wall.

You are a shill.

I'm the shill?
I'm not the one rehashing tabloid lies, I'm not the one who is talking rubbish about people I'm too scared to mix with, I'm not the one who can't
provide evidence for my claims.
You are, you had hours to reply and you couldn't find one thing to back up your mad little claim, all you could do is call me a shill in your whiny
little voice. You're a joke pal.

The thread is supposed to be about Jays case with the ATF and the US Gov, not about motorcycle "clubs" that are quite blatantly disrespectful and
often violent to anyone other than themselves.

Reading between the lines on some of the blogs, it seems that there's a connection between some of the folks in this and that Fast and Furious bit.
..Considering how high up that was supposed to go, I'd be surprised if Jay got anything more than the barest acknowledgement of his allegations. The
judge just won't be allowed to set a precedent that will endanger the positions of the real high up chatacters.

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