does anyone have a recommendation for a tiling window manager to use within gnome? I like the gnome environment, but I have a large monitor and like the organization of tiling. there are a few out there, so I'm looking for suggestions as to which to try first :)

I will forgive pardons, but the given problem the general both for Ubuntu and for Debian. I want to pay only your attention to the given problem as the given problem don't solve already throughout several years.

devil: The given problem takes place to be in all ÄÉÔÓÒÉÂÕÔÉ×ÁÈ LInux, I address to you as to professionals. The given problem in bug-reports many distribution kits. I established one year ago Debian Lenny, the given problem was present and there. Yesterday you promised to help me. Also it is necessary ÔÒÏÌÌÉÔØ on a theme ah at you Debian so go to a bottom. Not professionally.

I yet haven't answered your question, and you already ask about ÍÅÍ a native language. So on what of your questions you order to me to answer? On all at once or we awake consistently to assort a problem?

EmleyMoor: I am convinced that you can backup your memory card with (at least) "dd" -- Other, file based tools, might also be applicable though. I can't guarantee you though that a CF/SD/Whatev card backup will be enough or if you actually need to backup some "internal" files. *shrug*

2. At me laptop Acer Extensa 5220 (BIOS Phoenix 1.35), Xubuntu 10.10 (Debian lenny), chipset Intel GL960. A problem in the following: from sensor controls is only coretemp. The sensor control of the fan isn't present absolutely, though the module ÐÏÄÇÒÕÖÁÅÔÓÑ. Accordingly there is no management of fan rotation. The processor awfully is heated. I know about project PHC on a voltage reduction for processors, but this decision not for me. Me absence more dis

sentinel: You might want to try a newer kernel or loading the "fan" module. I would also strongly recommend to ask in #debian-russian on irc.freenode.net (assuming that you as a Belarus citizen speak Russian)

sentinel: I would recommend to follow our advice and do not insult random people who are trying to help you in the future. And yes, I am strongly suggesting that you ask in #ubuntu-ru on irc.freenode.net -- If you want support in here install *Debian* (preferably Squeeze) and make sure you follow our advice (loading the "fan" module as suggested to you yesterday). Have a nice day.

I have found only one room with good support of community, which not ÔÒÏÌÌÑÔ as you, it there was a room #arch on the server jabber.ru. But also they couldn't help completely with the decision of my problem.

I have found only one room with good support of community, which not trolling as you, it there was a room #arch on the server jabber.ru. But also they couldn't help completely with the decision of my problem.

Debian I established one year ago, the problem was similar: the processor on the laptop awfully overheats. The given problem in a bug tracks of all distribution kits and anybody doesn't solve it 2 years! I also know that now in the given room there are also Russian colleagues who for some reason hide. The help on installation Debian is necessary to me, I only want to pay attention hardcoders to the given problem.

So you consider that the iron which became my processor on the laptop will have an error debian bts. No, such error isn't present. Such yet haven't thought up. If you can create debian bts for awful high temperature on the laptop I only will be glad. And here for the fan I now search for an error.

Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution and it probably falls short of Debian's standards. #debian only supports Debian; you should respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.

luca_: There are differences though. aptitude's search patterns are very powerful and it also has better (interactive) dependency resolution. As I said: If you want one tool for apt-* (and more) use "wajig" otherwise use aptitude :)

Well, I never use synaptic. Could you try "aptitude hold PKG" and then "aptitude safe-upgrade" and check if the system still tries to upgrade the package. Why do you want to hold that package though? There is most likely a better way.

ayaka: I can ensure you that the Debian installer does not randomly delete any 漫畫 from your harddrive. It is more likely that you made a (unfortunate) mistake, like deleting a needed partition or something like that.

ayaka: Debian uses /home just like Ubuntu -- the default partitioning method might be different though. I can't comment on that because I have no idea how Ubuntu does it, but the Debian installer warns you that data might get lost when you change your partitions or format them.

pw: You basically follow the instructions on the website. Make sure that you have "contrib" in your sources.list (deb lines should end in "main contrib" (optionally "non-free")) -- Run "aptitude update" and install it with "aptitude -t lenny-backports install flashplugin-nonfree"

pw: I ask because the next stable release of Debian is expected to be released next weekend. You might just install it right now and take it from there. I am just mentioning that, because you will have to upgrade your Lenny installation to Squeeze in the next year anyway, so you might just start with it right away.

sentinel: Try a newer kernel if you think it is related to your kernel version. But you are still not using Debian, so I don't think that you are interested in a way on how to achieve that on Debian. Ask in #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net for help with that.

What is the best channel for Debian-multimedia? When I try to full-upgrade my system it wants to remove libx264-104, without a replacement. I could find no description at www.multimedia.org which would warrant this. Thanks for any pointer!

[dmm] Debian Multimedia is a repository of unofficial packages maintained by Christian Marillat, not in Debian for patent-related reasons. For information on how to access, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm lenny> <dmm squeeze>. During 2010, this repository grew a non-free part, with all binary-only packages moved there; you may need to add " non-free" to your sources lines. See also <dmm mirrors>, <dmm list>.

Well, but, if so say at once that is necessary for you, the first, the second, the third. Then I won't spend the time for an idle talk, and I will not spend your time. And so it turns out ÛÁÒÁÈÁÎØÅ here and there. After installation Debian I c you will communicate. Only there is a question: "Why so long anybody from developers Debian doesn't solve those bugreports, which I to you ÏÔÐÉÓÁÌ above and which you so persistently demanded?" In those bugreports t

Well, but, if so say at once that is necessary for you, the first, the second, the third. Then I won't spend the time for an idle talk, and I will not spend your time. And so it turns out left here and there. After installation Debian I c you will communicate. Only there is a question: "Why so long anybody from developers Debian doesn't solve those bugreports, which I to you letter above and which you so persistently demanded?" In those bugreports there i

Squeeze is the codename for the next release, Debian GNU/Linux 6.0. It is the three-eyed space alien. Ask me about <wwsr> for recent updates and see also <testing> <squeeze udev> <squeeze kernel> <lenny->squeeze> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze . The Debian release is not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager.

jhutchins_lt: asked "for what purpose" and commented "If you're booting with PXE it shouldn't matter what's on the machine." I'd love someone to expand on the latter, if possible. I'd really love to pxe boot all my machines in the house, 3 of which are windows 7 boxes. Could I do this too?

sentinel: just look at the first report: 1 user (debian developer) sees a bug. someone else asks for output to determine if its a kernel bug. output could not be provided. what to do? maybe its time you start fixing it.

devil: I already have just started to prosecute over this subjects, unique means of working out which I have found - QST SDK from Intel, the given project only has appeared recently in open access for developers on site Intel. OpenAMT doesn't work on last kernels Linux. But I am am frightened by temperature of my processor and my laptop at work in Linux. Agree that the temperature more than 60 degrees on Celsius is too, and sometimes it reached and to 70

My laptop has an Intel GM45 graphics system and a built in wide screen. I am looking for a way to display the "full screen" mode from an application without stretching it sideways to fit. How would I do this? (On my desktop, I have NVidia graphics and there is a setting in the configuration tool for that)

Hi all, I am trying to follow this article but I have immediately run into some differences in what happens and what is suggested. Is there anyone around who thinks they can help with this sort of thing? http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/478

devil: thanks.. I'll have a look on that.. prolly would get easier if I reinstalled with that.. I'm out of DVDs atm, I have some CDs though.. is there some "minimal" install cd that downloads stuff over net ?

i guess netinst is a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ See also <various cd1>, <check iso image>, <dialup install>, <usb install>, <installer>.

Geli, you could also make a few sanity checks inside the console: whether maybe the disk is not full, or whether maybe the filesystem is mounted readonly due to a FS error, or whether chroot is not executable, or look inside /target, if it looks sane and there dpkg in there and the *deb package etc.

extra, extra, read all about it, upgrade is what keeps your box from getting r00ted, or what you do with aptitude. Do an aptitude update first, and then an aptitude upgrade. Ask me about <security>. If you upgrade to a new stable version, read the release notes first. Ask me about <etch->lenny> <lenny->squeeze>.

oscz: I wonder if its possible to use this squeeze netinst image to setup the partitions, grub2 etc.. then I would boot up a livecd.. mount both systems, old and new, and copy the lenny installation on the new root

Geli, however minimal will also mean, that there's a lot of default stuff missing so you'll have to do the work yourself of putting the pieces together (see my question about alsa and pulseaudio, which is the symptom of the same idea)

Geli: Yes, you don't have to install either KDE or Gnome. Either install from the XFCE CD1, or install a minimal system (just don't select the "Desktop" or other tasks -- i would recommend "Standard" though) Take it from there

If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.

I want to be able to display certain "traditional" modes centred on my laptop's 16:9 screen, rather than stretched. My xorg. conf is at http://pastebin.com/LP0vGkab and my Xorg.0.log at http://pastebin.com/Gv1kfaGA - and I am using Intel graphics. Any guidance would be appreciated.

EmleyMoor: Hmmmm ... 16:9 sucks doesn't it? I'm so happy that I still have a 4:3 screen. I am not entirely sure if you can achieve that. I mean there definitely is *some* way, but this is quite unusual and I really don't know it off-hand. You might want to check your hardware settingd and/or write to a Xorg mailing list.

experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does _not_ support experimental. For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference. http://packages.debian.org/experimental/

Hi all, i have successfully modified initramfs-tools to setup a fully configured bridge instead of a normal network device (needed for my diskless kvm/xen clients). Now id like to have the changes in regular debain packages. Im willing to spend more time to adapt to appropriate conventions/policies of the involved packages (bridge-utils, initramfs-tools), but i need to know them. Is there another way than mailing-lists to discuss them? preferred irc...

ok here's what happened, I opened fstab and it went to gedit.. then I tried to paste the infor you have provided me but it wont let me so I opened another gedit and paste the info that is on the fstab file and added the one you have provided me.

hi, i'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but seems to be a good starting point.. i have an amd64 system with recent deb unstable and got a kernel "crash". here is what i got in messages: http://kernel.pastebin.com/DhL2vve7 Could anyone please help me in understanding what's going wrong?

Hi all, I am trying to follow this article but I have immediately run into some differences in what happens and what is suggested. Is there anyone around who thinks they can help with this sort of thing? http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/478

jipsy_: truth is I'm almost totally inexperienced with PXE. The first issue I have run into and I am unsure if it's a problem yet is that the default config file for tftpd-hpa ppears to have changed so the instructions on there no longer seem to apply.

timekiller: You can use full-upgrade with apt-get as well, it's the equivalent of the old dist-upgrade. The difference between that and plain upgrade or safe-upgrade is explicitly that those won't do the kernel.

If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.

dharc: I need to leave soon, but someone else will probably help you if you give more details. What debian release? what program version? what error messages? remember, we are not at your computer with you.

Gentlemen, 4c of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto Please could you explain lines 2 to 4, do you think? It would probably suffice to tell me how I find that information on any given linux system. For what it's worth I'm asking here (as well as in Ubuntu if I'm honest) as I'm doing this on a debian box serving out Ubuntu...

btw.. how can i determine what is causing this problem : after suspend/resume when playing the video Xorg takes way more CPU than usual.. it's even noticable when i switch tabs in gnome-terminal.. the rendering is generaly slow

jhutchins_lt: i installed the system yesterday and today i only tried linux.2.6.37 from debian experimental .. it didn't helped so i removed the kernel package and downgraded base-linux package back to testing

Traditionally there is the alpha release - first public trial, beta - presumed working but looking for bugs (like Testing), possibly several releases, then Release Candidates which are presumed to be completely fixed but need to be checked.

those are two different programs .. It can't resemble both -- Do you had the "click on network something in the panel and select from drop-down menu" thing (→ network-manager) or the "click on network-something in the panel and it opens a window" think (→ wicd)

any idea how to suppress ANY tcpdump timestamps and protocol data when using the flag -A ? I'm using " -n -N -A -q -t" but I still get the occasional timestamp ... i just want the pure ASCII to process (piped into perl script)

Hi all. I have followed the unstructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto but when I try to boot the client it successfully loads the pxelinux.cfg/default file(indicated by it saying 'ok' at the end of that line) but the very next message is "No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found!" Can anyone assist, please? (This IS a debian server, btw).

Tiff: I have found the potential issue. The guide says that in /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default I should specify APPEND root=/dev/nfs but there is no such device on my server. Is that a debian / ubuntu difference, or should I have something installed

I installed PCBSD on an old computer and then tried to install debian testing afterwards. During the partioning part of the installation process a message was displayed saying the MBR was corrupted and asked wether it was MS-DOS type or another 3 letter acronym (cant recall).

i cant seem to get sound out of it, have no idea how to get the system to see it, or indeed if it does, the only change seems to be that now skype lets me make calls, rather than complaining that the sound is messed up

how would I go about using apt-get to download a package provided in a 3rd-party repository depending on a lib which *once upon a time* was shipped in its own packages but has now been merged into another package, providing ~4 libs?

im attempting to install debian with lxde or icewm on my netbook (no optical drive). ive made a bootable flash using the business card image however that does not seem to contain the alternative desktop environments and the net-install image is too large. is anyone aware of a way around this problem such as a way to create a bootable installer using a flashdrive with multiple partitions or an image that defaults to lxde/icewm

Hi all. I am working on a debian server, trying to set up a pxe booted ubuntu client. Would you guys be prepared to help me with something I am totally stick with. I do not know whether the issue is a fault with the ubuntu client config or the debian server....

I have been trying to pxe boot a system as described above, and I seem to be 'so close and yet so far'. I am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto but alsoplenty of other guides but I can't seem to sort out the error I get with it not bringing up the network interface successfully. I think the critical error line is:

Point releases are updates to <stable> and <oldstable>, fixing security and grave bug fixes. You can upgrade to the latest point release by referencing a Debian <mirror> in /etc/apt/sources.list, then "aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade". For Etch and prior, these were known as "4.0rX" but from Lenny onwards they are called "5.0.X" etc. See <5.0.8>, <4.0r9>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases/PointReleases

[uuid] Universally Unique IDentifier, used to reference disk partitions (among other things). See currently known partition UUIDs with `blkid'. In /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst, use "UUID=dead-beef-0420-etc" as the partition name. Helps to cope with device name changes such as hda->sda (<libata> transition) or changes in USB disk order discovery. <LVM> tools accept PV/VG/LV UUIDs as arguments, use {pv,vg,lv}display to acquire.

sure, before that problem didn't exist, but I stoped using the desktop. and in the notebook, debian didn't support the wireless, so just recently I moved again to debian, and since then, I have the problem

BackTrack is not Debian and is not supported in #debian (ask me about <based on debian>). Try http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ or #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net instead. BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Intrepid (as of BackTrack 4), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux.

BackTrack is not Debian and is not supported in #debian (ask me about <based on debian>). Try http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ or #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net instead. BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Intrepid (as of BackTrack 4), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux.

Very simple question about sources.list... is my http://paste.debian.net/106111/ correct? I am getting 404 not found when I update and am wondering if sid does not currently have a proposed-updates or something. Does this look alright to ya'll?

< guruman> is there some way to make ls list all entries starting with a digit, i mean like 'ls [0-9]*' or similar instead of doing 'ls 1* && ls 2* ...' < furrywolf> guruman: ls [0-9]* :P < guruman> furrywolf it says "[0-9]" is not a directory or file ... < guruman> furrywolf ls [a-z]* seems to work but not 0-9 ... strange < guruman> furrywolf lol .. ofc it works its just me that doesnt have any files beginning with 0-9 in