I'm trying to decide on a winter bike since I've handed in my team bike (end of season).

I've looked at the Canyon bikes and at focus. I can buy a new focus Izalco pro 4.0 for 1500€ - which seems like a pretty good deal. The other option is buying a Canyon bike - like the ultimate AL (Di2 2012 model or perhaps the CF 2012 model) for about 2000€.

Fitting my Dura Ace 7900 SRM on the Canyon would probably be easier than the focus BB30, but I guess it's not to big a deal with adapters.

Do any of you have any experiences with these bikes, or any thoughts on other bikes I should consider? I'm in Denmark btw.

I have Focus Izalco 2010 (for sale ) with Shimano cranks (FSA adapter adds 52g - but it is without any problem, no cracking, no sound etc.). Izalco is very comfortable and good loking frameset, but not weight-weenie.

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I'm trying to decide on a winter bike since I've handed in my team bike (end of season).

I've looked at the Canyon bikes and at focus. I can buy a new focus Izalco pro 4.0 for 1500€ - which seems like a pretty good deal. The other option is buying a Canyon bike - like the ultimate AL (Di2 2012 model or perhaps the CF 2012 model) for about 2000€.

Fitting my Dura Ace 7900 SRM on the Canyon would probably be easier than the focus BB30, but I guess it's not to big a deal with adapters.

Do any of you have any experiences with these bikes, or any thoughts on other bikes I should consider? I'm in Denmark btw.

The izalco looks lovely but does not appear to have mudguard clearance. In the UK a "winter bike" would usually have mudguards otherwise winter riding is really wet and horrible. Denmark must have similar weather, you may want to have a look for an alloy frame with eyelets.

I can see that the definition of winter bikes can vary a bit depending on where you live Here's mine... and a bit of snow in the background (1.5m to be precise). As there is now way to fit studded tyres on a road/CX bike, it has to be MTB. Oh, and the beast weighs in at *exactly* as my road bike and TT bike combined

Hello darkwingI second Alans comments. Where i live, the classic winter trainer is Ribble cycles audax/winter frame. Has mudguard eyelets, is solid, rides really well and is cheap!http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-t ... ibbfraw220They even do a carbon version now.Aidee

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