Oh, so no new information. The state department could have approved the prior requests for more security. But once those are denied then Ambassador Stevens is responsible for making sure that he and his people are protected by the assets that are there.

There was no compelling reason for Ambassador Stevens to remain in Benghazi no matter the circumstances. It was up to him and his security team to know whether or not the Lybian militia could adequately supplement the CIA security force to protect them and if the protection was not adequate then it was up to him to leave the Benghazi compound and go to Tripoli.

The truth of this situation is that the Ambassador has final responsibility for security of his personnel.

I invite all of the prejudiced people in this thread to explain to what degree Ambassador Stevens bears responsibility for choosing to be in Benghazi on that day when he had full knowledge of the security assets available to him and the best knowledge of the threats, and the full authority to do whatever he thought necessary to protect himself and his people, including the authority to close the Benghazi compound, order all personnel to Tripoli and arrange for secure transportation.

4 Americans died, more than 30 were evacuated safely.

You can have this deputy ambassador Hicks continue to say how surprised he was that the calvary did not come to the rescue, but I want to see him explain how it was that they were even in Benghazi that night and how it was that so many Americans were evacuated safely.

Ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith could have even been at the Annex in the first place, and if that were the first place attacked, that very likely would have been repelled and everyone would have been evacuated with no casualties.

Fact of the matter is that Ambassador Stevens served his country well. He was brave and he was killed by terrorists. Sometimes terrorists succeed. When that happens, Americans should rally together, but when you have prejudiced partisans, you get a whole bunch of BS allegations.

The GOP and Tea Party can continue to be glad that 4 Americans were killed by terrorists and hope they can twist that into some kind of way to win elections. But it is dishonorable to celebrate terrorist attacks against our people and that is what the GOP and Tea Party are hoping to do. They are intending to be opportunistic and the only way to do that is to be dishonorable.

Keep beating that drum. It did not work in 2012, and it will not work in the future. Dishonorable partisans impress themselves with their own BS. But a majority of voters are not impressed with that.

Oh, so no new information. The state department could have approved the prior requests for more security. But once those are denied then Ambassador Stevens is responsible for making sure that he and his people are protected by the assets that are there.

There was no compelling reason for Ambassador Stevens to remain in Benghazi no matter the circumstances. It was up to him and his security team to know whether or not the Lybian militia could adequately supplement the CIA security force to protect them and if the protection was not adequate then it was up to him to leave the Benghazi compound and go to Tripoli.

The truth of this situation is that the Ambassador has final responsibility for security of his personnel.

I invite all of the prejudiced people in this thread to explain to what degree Ambassador Stevens bears responsibility for choosing to be in Benghazi on that day when he had full knowledge of the security assets available to him and the best knowledge of the threats, and the full authority to do whatever he thought necessary to protect himself and his people, including the authority to close the Benghazi compound, order all personnel to Tripoli and arrange for secure transportation.

4 Americans died, more than 30 were evacuated safely.

You can have this deputy ambassador Hicks continue to say how surprised he was that the calvary did not come to the rescue, but I want to see him explain how it was that they were even in Benghazi that night and how it was that so many Americans were evacuated safely.

Ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith could have even been at the Annex in the first place, and if that were the first place attacked, that very likely would have been repelled and everyone would have been evacuated with no casualties.

Fact of the matter is that Ambassador Stevens served his country well. He was brave and he was killed by terrorists. Sometimes terrorists succeed. When that happens, Americans should rally together, but when you have prejudiced partisans, you get a whole bunch of BS allegations.

The GOP and Tea Party can continue to be glad that 4 Americans were killed by terrorists and hope they can twist that into some kind of way to win elections. But it is dishonorable to celebrate terrorist attacks against our people and that is what the GOP and Tea Party are hoping to do. They are intending to be opportunistic and the only way to do that is to be dishonorable.

Keep beating that drum. It did not work in 2012, and it will not work in the future. Dishonorable partisans impress themselves with their own BS. But a majority of voters are not impressed with that.

tl;dr = Blame the dead guy not the administration bigwigs who listened to him die from the comfort of their Washington DC campaign protection centers.

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Nicely done partisan attack on your partisan opponents. When we decide to look for the truth on any issue based on what the majority of voters would be impressed with we end up with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. We end up with John Boehner.

This is working well. Look for the facts and the truth without the spin.

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Dave Lane: "I have donated more money to people in my life as an atheist that most churches ever will."

tl;dr = Blame the dead guy not the administration bigwigs who listened to him die from the comfort of their Washington DC campaign protection centers.

You can use all of your pretty words to make your nonsense more effective.

And, you can lie all you want about the responsibilities of Ambassadors.

Please explain why Ambassador Stevens was where he was that night and what his responsibilities are regarding the security of the US diplomatic personnel in Lybia when he is the ambassador to that country.

You can use all of your pretty words to make your nonsense more effective.

And, you can lie all you want about the responsibilities of Ambassadors.

Please explain why Ambassador Stevens was where he was that night and what his responsibilities are regarding the security of the US diplomatic personnel in Lybia when he is the ambassador to that country.

Hillary answered that didn't she? What difference does it make?

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Frazod to KC Nitwit..."Hey, I saw a picture of some dumpy bitch with a horrible ****tarded giant back tattoo and couldn't help but think of you." Simple, Pure, Perfect. 7/31/2013

Dave Lane: "I have donated more money to people in my life as an atheist that most churches ever will."

You can use all of your pretty words to make your nonsense more effective.

And, you can lie all you want about the responsibilities of Ambassadors.

Please explain why Ambassador Stevens was where he was that night and what his responsibilities are regarding the security of the US diplomatic personnel in Lybia when he is the ambassador to that country.

He was there because the Obama administration was transferring Libyan weapons to associates of al Qaeda in an effort to overthrow Bashir Assad. Kind of Iran Contra-ish, if you ask me.

You might want the buck to stop at the grave of a US ambassador, but IMO the buck goes higher than that.

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I don't know that that's true, but even if it is it's a strawman as no one is seriously arguing for the pre-Obamacare status quo as the ultimate solution.

It's certainly not an argument in favor of Obamacare.

You know damn good and well it's true. Name a wealthy country without UHC. The closest I can find in terms of wealth are Indonesia, Malaysia Turkey, Iran and Vietnam. Not exactly bastions of first-world capitalism.

Obamacare is better than the status quo for millions of people like my uncle who can't get private insurance. Republicans ONLY answer is the status quo. Well at least now that they turned on their own idea when it became Obamacare. I guess they learned their lesson to never actually propose new ideas wrt to healthcare - democrats might just take them up on it.