not exactly.I hope this to be my absolute last post on this forum, so listen carefully.I don't appreciate it to be referenced or quoted out of context from people who do not understand what I have to say about shoes, period. just avoid it, period.spread the word. many thanks

this must have been overlooked, as I myself also found it just recently, although I was asked upfront the trip.on the courtesy of Simon C. - enjoy...there's also a well regarded contributor to this thread, who already owns his very own pair and enjoys it.#13917 - http://www.styleforum.net/t/168002/shoe-damage-report-shoe-p0rn-central-part-ii/13905#post_5759098my personal favorite is the black pingrain. saving my pennies...