We can all probably guess why he was killed, he'd contradicted Colin Powell's fantasy at the UN vis mobile chem / bio labs in Iraq and was clearly setup by the "many dark actors playing games..." over the fiction that was Iraq WMD.

He was certainly a man who knew too much about the bs being peddled in the lead up to yet another fetishistic slaughter in Iraq.

It is my contention that some of these "wet jobs" are referenced back to the current Chief Exec.

The case of David Kelly, when measured from the start of the reign of Princess Tony and his New Lab project is sublime:

From New Lab elected on 1.5.1997 to the murder of Dr David Kelly, normal date difference, and / or from New Lab in office, the following day, on 2.5.1997, inclusive, is:

The day after the London bombings on 8.7.2005, he penned an article in The Guardian which stated:

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Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan.

Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.

Now, as a Foreign Secretary, whom, we are told, like a chicken guarding the foxes, has oversight of MI6 and as a Right Honourable Privy Councillor, I assume that the oaths he took were meant to be for life. So, one could argue that he may have been better advised to have kept quiet about what he knew, about all things OBL and the Al Q database of "contract terrorists" and their spooky CIA / MI6 / SIS / ISI origins.

Once again, a possible wet job, back to when he took the oath of office and New Lab's ascendency:

The death of Robin Cook on 6.8.2005, from becoming Foreign Secretary on 2.5.1997 inclusive, is:

Franz Ferdinand (18 December 1863 – 28 June 1914) was an Archduke of Austria-Este, Austro-Hungarian and Royal Prince of Hungary and of Bohemia, and from 1889 until his death, heir presumptive to the Austro-Hungarian throne.

His assassination in Sarajevo precipitated Austria-Hungary's declaration of war against Serbia. This caused the Central Powers (including Germany and Austria-Hungary) and the Allies of World War I (countries allied with Serbia) to declare war on each other, starting World War I.

From Archduke Ferdinand's birth on 18.12.1863 to his assassination on 28.6.1914 is:

We are told that OBL's primary motivating factor for launching the so-called Jihad was the arrival of the Americans (troops) in Saudi Arabia.

This was the Poppy Bush and affiliated terrorist cell's, devilish plan to occupy the middle east in the post cold war vacuum left by the engineered demise of the USSR.

No wonder he was wetting his pants with all his NWO speeches and 1000 Points of Light speeches etc., - after decades of "the balance of power" vis Soviet influence and deterence in all things middle east, he was now able to give the green light to his lacky, Saddam Hussein, to invade the US/UK oil colony and former province of Iraq, known as Kuwait, because according to April Glaspie, "Kuwait was not a US concern...", so as to provide the reason for the Kuwaitis and Saudis to ask for help.

Operation Desert Shield followed Saddam's incursion accross the border on 2.8.1990, five days later on 7.8.1990, when the first of some 300,000 US troops began to arrive in Saudi Arabia as a staging post to launch their attack on the Iraqi forces in Kuwait.

I've never been able to figure out, quite why it took OBL just over 6 years to get angry enough to issue his Declaration of Jihad, but, we are told that he did issue it and that this was the reason.

As you would expect, the alleged date of OBL allegedly confessing to the 9/11 crime is, of course, similarly, beautifully crafted vis the alleged Jihad.

The chap reported as being an Al Jaz journalist, Taysir (Tayseer) Allouni is alleged to have interviewed OBL on 20.10.2001, under very strange circumstances, so strange that Al Jazeera refused to broadcast the interview, but CNN did, naturally. In that interview it is reported that OBL claims responsibility for inciting the 9/11 event:

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He [Taysir Allouni] will later interview Osama bin Laden (see October 20, 2001) and be sentenced to jail for his alleged al-Qaeda membership (see September 26, 2005)

This event was specifically mentioned in the Ladenese Epistle and Al Qaeda was mentioned in the indictment.

The Declaration of Jihad of 23.8.1996 was the day that marked 9 months and the 11th day since OPM-SANG at Riyadh on 13.11.1995.

Although we are told that the Riyadh event was not the first time that OBL had allegedly attacked US interests, (see 29.12.1992 Yemen Gold Mihor & Movenpick Hotels in Aden), it was the first time he had been formally charged with anything, so it makes sense to look at that as a root date, vis subsequent events.

From OBL 1st indicted on 8.6.1998 to his alleged death on 2.5.2011 is an interval of:

In case there is any doubt as to whether the use of these date patterns is limited to so-called, acts of terrorism or false flag terrorism, it is worth providing an example of their use in the political arena also.

You may recall Jack Straw's personal Jihad against the Muslim veil.

Mr Straw, launched his Jihad on 5.10.2006, by writing the following article in his blog at the Lancashire Telegraph, with the rather crass headline of:

Mr Straw was unavailable for comment when asked about a possible nationwide ban on stockings due to their long history of use among the bank robbing fraternity....

No. Not the ones in suits. The other ones.

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France Enforces Ban on Full-Face Veils in Public

By STEVEN ERLANGER
Published: April 11, 2011

VÉNISSIEUX, France — France on Monday formally banned the wearing of full veils in public places, becoming the first country in Europe to impose restrictions on a form of attire that some Muslims consider a religious obligation.

I think we might as well have these "interview" extracts on view, as it seems to me this is an example of the freeze dried, instantly available narrative.

I'm suspicious of the preamble, clearly stating the key "dropping out date" and then having that electronic text date "confirmed" in the dialogue.

I was thinking of inserting the question, "do you like bananas" before the "yep", just to illustrate my point. But that would be a fabrication now wouldn't it ...

If we're going to have the "new normal" of "police interviews" being published, then why can't we have it all and not just the "salient extracts", - those extracts that, clearly, are included to deliver the key points of the narrative and to mention the key root events that all work diabolical wonders in the date relationships ...

Or, alternatively, if we're going to have a "narrative" pre-amble which delivers the "key date"and "key root events", then we might as well just have the narrative, because that's what this "interview transcript" effectively is.

Another highly suspicious aspect of this case is the emphasis one reads in all of the reports that Roshonara Choudhry acted alone, under no other influence but the internet. This aspect is also confirmed in the alleged police interview transcript.

Roshonara Choudhry is, in effect, "the lone knife woman" ™.

It goes without saying that the Guardian's Vikram Dodd is their "go to repeater" for all things War of Terror and spookiness ...

I also think it's very strange that a defendant who is reported as not recognising the court's jurisdiction and who is reported as instructing her defence not to challenge anything the prosecution says, then applies to watch those proceedings over a video link. An application that was denied by the Judge, Mr Justice Cooke, who then allowed the link for mitigation and sentencing. Most odd.

Did she speak to anyone about the case ?

Are we to assume she had no contact whatsoever with her own defence ?

This poster has it about right in my view:

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"She appears to be the first to be inspired by Al-Qaeda to attack on British soil"...

In fact the words were more resounding than that, in all cases, she was basically put to the side as an Al-Qaeda agent, sent on an Assassination contract.

Oh and of course, how was she radicalized?

Yes, the words of Imam Anwar al Awlaki touched her ears and suddenly everything all went wrong and mountains fell and the moon seemed strange, until the sun rose and it was decided.

Got to love how they try to explain away everything that exposes their 'perfect system', it reaches heights of amazing stupidity,

It won't be long before the British believe every single lie as easily as the Americans do.

I disagree with his/her prognosis however. Clearly the majority of folk in this country, just like everywhere else, are already way past the point of believing everything they are told.

Dropping depleted uranium and murdering thousands of innocent human beings in some distant foreign land, for no apparent reason, based on lie after damnable lie, doesn't radicalise anyone.

Whereas listening to Anwar Our-Lackey, allegedly, the PhD graduate in human resource development (!) from George Washington University, who suddenly becomes a spiritual leader of a new Al Q franchise, clearly does...

The police investigation found that in the last quarter of 2009 Choudhry began downloading from the internet sermons and material from Anwar al-Awlaki, the Islamist cleric who western officials say is the spiritual leader of al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula. He preached the need for violent action to combat the atrocities of the west against Muslims around the world, and urged followers to do what they could, when they could, no matter how small.

There is a big gap between this and the attack on Timms ....

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By the start of 2010 she had dropped out of her studies ...

27th April 2010 Vikram. Precisely. Only in your mind can this be "the start of 2010". Most odd.

So when was it ?

And she was supposed to have received her "new mind", in the six months since November 2009, so it says in the "transcript" Vikram, over the internet, from Anwar Our-Lackey ...

Contrary to Vikram Dodd's "Hugo Keith-esque" time warping shenanigans, which he attempts twice in his article ...

All very highly dubious in my opinion.

For an "A" grade student who was top of her class and predicted to get a fist class honours degree at university, these comments, in my opinion, do not seem to emanate from somone who is either all that bright ... or, alternatively, is of her "own mind" ...

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Roshonara Choudhry: Police interview extracts

Conducted on 14 May 2010, about four hours after her arrest for stabbing Stephen Timms, in Forest Gate police station

This interview was conducted four hours after Choudhry's arrest for stabbing Stephen Timms. Choudhry was interviewed by Simon Dobinson, a detective sergeant from Newham police, with detective constable Syed Hussain. Choudhry says she was studying English and Communications at King's College London, but dropped out on 27 April 2010, in her third year.

Simon Dobinson So what made you drop out of that?

Choudhry 'Cos ... because King's College is involved in things where they work against Muslims.

Q OK. What sort of things?

A Last year, or the year before, they gave an award to Shimon Peres [Israeli politician] and they also have a department for tackling radicalisation … So I just didn't wanna go there anymore ... 'cos it would be against my religion.

Q OK, and when did you sort of make that decision?

A About a month ago.

Q OK. It seems quite a long time to be there and almost to the end of that course, you know, the end and just to let it go. Is there any ... did you have any problems understanding the course?

A I was the top student.

Q Was you? OK and what did they say when you pulled out?

A They didn't want me to pull out.

Choudhry says after leaving her course, she worked at a tuition centre called KnowledgeBox teaching maths, English and science. She says she won't be working there any more.

Q Why's that then?

A Because of what I just did today.

Q Well, tell me about that then. Tell me what happened today.

A I stabbed Stephen Timms.

Q You stabbed Stephen Timms.

A Yep.

Choudhry gives details of the attack, as heard in her trial. She says she made an appointment to see him at his constituency surgery.

Q Why did you make that appointment?

A So I can do what I did.

Q So tell me what thought process you went through before you made that phone call?

A I thought that it's not right that he voted for the declaration of war in Iraq.

Q When did you start thinking about that?

A Over the last few months.

Q What's led you to start thinking about that?

A I've been learning more about Islam.

Q Where have you been learning that?

A Internet.

Q What websites you been looking at?

A I've been listening to lectures by Anwar al-Awlaki.

Q Anwar?

A Al-Awlaki.

Q Who's he?

A He's an Islamic scholar. He lives in Yemen.

Q And where have you been listening to these lectures?

A I down loaded it off of the internet … Explaining stories from the Qur'an and explaining about jihad.

Q And has that contributed to your decision to leave King's?

A Yes.

Q And where was the link there then?

A I thought that I should have loyalty to my Muslim brothers and sisters in Palestine and so I should leave King's and that would show my loyalty to them.

Q Who have you been watching these lectures with?

A I listen to them on my own.

Q So when did you decide: 'From what I've learnt, I'm now gonna go and stab Stephen Timms?'

A I feel like I've ruined the rest of my life. I feel like it's worth it because millions of Iraqis are suffering and I should do what I can to help them and not just be inactive and do nothing while they suffer.

DC Hussain Sorry, just before we finish, I've just a couple of questions that I've got to ask you. When did this interest of yours for Islam develop?

A I've always been quite religious and I started to listen to Anwar al-Awlaki lectures last year and then I started to get really into it and I listened to everything that … like all of his recorded lectures that he made and that would have been like since November. I've been listening to him since November.

Hussain How did you get introduced to Anwar al-Awlaki?

A He's quite famous and I've started to listen to his stuff.

Hussain How did you come across him?

A On the internet.

Hussain Was that from your own research or did someone recommend him?

A From my own research but everybody listens to him and likes him anyway.

Q Do you go to a regular mosque?

A No ... I just pray at home.

Q Who do you discuss your Islam with?

A In general I just talk about it to my brothers and sisters but I don't mention everything to them.

Q If you've got a question that you want to ask or you want answered, who do you ask?

A I don't ask anyone I just listen to his lectures. There's no one to ask.

Hussain I just want to go over a little bit how your thought has gone from getting to religion to all of a sudden wanting some form of vengeance.

A Because as Muslims we're all brothers and sisters and we should all look out for each other and we shouldn't sit back and do nothing while others suffer. We shouldn't allow the people who oppress us to get away with it and to think that they can do whatever they want to us and we're just gonna lie down and take it.

Q Where did you learn that from?

A From listening to his lectures.

Q And that's caused you to do what you've done today?

A Yeah.

Q OK. Just a couple of other things. You bought the knives, you say, two to three weeks ago ... Where did you keep 'em?

A Underneath the bed in a shoebox.

Q How did you feel about what you was about to do?

A I was a bit nervous about what I was gonna do but I felt like it had to be done and it's the right thing to do.

Q Having done it, how do you feel now?

A I feel like I did my best to fulfil my duty to the other Muslims.

Dobinson ... What did you think was gonna happen once you'd carried out your intentions?

Choudhry I thought that I would either get arrested or maybe I would like get killed or something.

Q How would you get killed?

A Like, if the police came and they had guns.

Q [Inaudible] take me through your thought process about that then?

A Oh no, I was just thinking about the possibilities and I thought it's either getting arrested or being killed. But either way I knew I wasn't coming back home again.

Q What, what did you think about getting killed then?

A I wanted to die.

Q Why?

A I wanted to be a martyr.

Q Why's that then?

A 'Cos, erm, that's the best way to die.

Q Who told you that?

A It's an Islamic teaching.

Q Where did you learn that?

A It's … it's in the Koran and I learnt it from listening to lectures as well.

Q OK, what lectures are that?

A By Anwar al-Awlaki.

Q al-Awlaki?

A Yeah.

Q OK, well, how did you find out about him?

A On the internet ... if you go on YouTube there's a lot of his videos there and if you do a search they just come up ... I wasn't searching for him, I just came across him ... I used to watch videos that people used to put up about like how they became Muslim.

Q OK, why did you watch those videos?

A 'Cos I thought ... their life stories were interesting ... And as you watch videos that like a whole other list of related videos comes up and I was just looking through those and I came across it.

Q Anwar al-Awlaki?

A Yeah.

Q OK. So who put you, who guided down this path to, to look for, you know, the videos of people and how they become Muslim?

A No one, I just found them really interesting ... I became interested in Anwar al-Awlaki's lectures because he explains things really comprehensively and in an interesting way so I thought I could learn a lot from him and I was also surprised at how little I knew about my religion so that motivated me to learn more...

Q What happened in November then?

A I downloaded the full set of Anwar al-Awlaki's lectures.

Q Yeah, what do you reckon the full set of his lectures are?

A More than a hundred hours.

Q And have you watched all those lectures?

A Yeah.

Q When did you finish watching them?

A The first week of May.

Q How often were you going onto the internet ...

A First I was listening to like two a day but then for a while I stopped because I had coursework to do and then I started back up again because I thought I need to finish listening to these.

Q Yeah. Apart from the lectures, what else were you looking at online?

A I was looking at YouTube videos about the resistance in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Q What other sites, remember any particular internet sites you looked at?

A When I was doing research about MPs, I looked at one called theyworkforyou.co.uk [theyworkforyou.com] and I think another one was called publicwhips [the publicwhip.org.uk].

Q Yeah, anything else?

A There's a website called revolutionmuslim.

Q OK. Forgive me, I find it, I just find it a little bit strange that you're doing all this on your own and not speaking to anyone else about or ...

A Because nobody would understand. And anyway I didn't wanna tell anyone because I know that if anybody else knew, they'd get in trouble 'cos then they would be like implicated in whatever I do, so I kept it a secret.

Q OK. When did the Iraq war start?

A 2003.

Q So how old would you have been then, 14?... did you have any strong view feelings at that time when the war started?

A No, I was just against in general like everyone else but not strong feelings.

Q And what changed ... what made you get those strong feelings that you've obviously got now?

A When I realised that I have an obligation to defend the people of Iraq and to fight on their side, that's when it changed my mind and also just like the death tolls and the civilian, like casualties and the pictures from the prisons.

Q OK, can you pinpoint the time when that changed or was it a gradual ... was there one particular incident?

A Like, erm, after like listening to the lectures, I realised by obligation but I didn't wanna like fight myself and just thought other people should fight, like men, but then I found out that even women are supposed to fight as well so I thought I should join in.

Q Where did you find that out from?

A A YouTube video by Sheikh Abdullah Azzam.

Q And what was he saying?

A He was saying that when a Muslim land is attacked it becomes obligatory on every man, woman and child and even slave to go out and fight and defend the land and the Muslims and if they can't handle like the forces they are facing, then it becomes obligatory on the people who live in ... closest to that country and if those people refuse to fulfil their duty then it, then it becomes to the next closest people and the next closest until it goes all the way round the whole world and it's obligatory on everyone to defend that land.

Q OK, and when did you watch that YouTube video?

A That probably would have been a couple of weeks ago like some point in April.

Q Was that before you bought the knives or after you bought the knives?

A That would have been before I think ...

Q ... how soon after watching that video did you decide to put things into action? Or to make plans?

A It would probably would have been like a few days or something.

Choudhry says she was planning to leave the UK and live in Bangladesh. But she changed her mind.

Q Why didn't you go?

A 'Cos I thought if this is more important then I shouldn't just be running away.

Q You say 'this is more important'. What is more important?

A Fighting.

Q You at some stage since then decided that 'I'm gonna kill Stephen Timms, the local MP'?

A Yeah

Q OK, so explain to me again why, why him? Lots of people voted for the war in Iraq, lots of MPs.

A Yeah, erm, it's because ... well, even the doctor asked me that: so like are you ... were you gonna kill everyone? And I told him that I'm just one person and I did what I could.

Q I was asking you why Stephen Timms was picked on... Why did you pick an MP to carry out this attack?

A Because he was directly involved with the declaration of war, so he'd directly committed a crime.

Q How did you know that?

A Because years ago back, maybe 2007 or 2006, I went on a school trip to Westminster and to meet him and we sat ... there was a group of us like maybe about 10, and we sat with him for … like an hour maybe and spoke to him and one of my friends there she ... we, we were all just asking general questions about what's it like to be an MP and what kind of work do you do and what are you doing at the moment, just general things like that. But there was this one girl there and almost the whole time we were there, she was having a go at him for ... because he voted for the war in Iraq. She was questioning him about that.

Q OK, and what did you think about that at the time?

A At the time I was thinking that she should be quiet and that she's embarrassing herself and I didn't say anything to support her, I just sat there feeling embarrassed.

Q Embarrassed, what for her or yourself or what, anyone else?

A I guess I respected her for having the guts to just say all these things to his face but like I wasn't brave enough to say anything, I just sat quietly.

Q Did you want to say something to him then?

A Not really.

Q So, have you carried out any research to ... about Stephen Timms.

A Yeah, on ... I looked up, I found, I Googled him, I found out he had a website, I found a page about him on theyworkforyou.com ... if you follow that link it shows information about how he voted on different things related to the Iraq war and the build up towards it. I found out that ... he very strongly agreed with the invasion of Iraq and they said very strongly because they worked out all his votes for everything related to that and it came up to something like 99.9% support or something like that.

Q How does that make you feel?

A That made me feel angry because the whole Iraq war is just based on lies and he just voted strongly for everything as though he had no mercy. As though he felt no doubts that what he was doing was right, even though it was such an arrogant thing to do and I just felt like if he could treat the Iraqi people so mercilessly, then why should I show him any mercy?

Q What, what makes you think that it's your place to go and stab him?

A Because I'm a Muslim and all Muslims are brothers and sisters. So if he attacked them, then he's likely to attack me too.

Q So where in the Qur'an does it say that you should go and kill someone?

A Erm, the main chapters about it are chapter ... chapter eight and chapter nine, I think.

Q What does that say, can you remember?

A Erm, it says to ... it says to fight until there is no more oppression in the land. Because it's better to fight than to be persecuted.

Q What do you think about what you've done to Stephen Timms and all that?

A I think I've fulfilled my obligation, my Islamic duty to stand up for the people of lraq and to punish someone who wanted to make war with them.

Choudhry 'Cos ... because King's College is involved in things where they work against Muslims.

Q OK. What sort of things?

A Last year, or the year before, they gave an award to Shimon Peres [Israeli politician] and they also have a department for tackling radicalisation … So I just didn't wanna go there anymore ... 'cos it would be against my religion.

The Council of King’s College London has decided to confer an honorary doctorate of Laws on His Excellency Mr Shimon Peres, President of Israel and Nobel Laureate, on the occasion of his visit to the United Kingdom in November 2008.

The honorary doctorate was presented to Mr Peres by The Marquess of Douro, Chairman, King's College London Council at the Mansion House, London today (18 November 2008).

From the Oslo Peace Accords being signed on 13.9.1993, for which Shimon Peres shared the 1994 Nobel Peace Prize, to Roshonara Choudhry being "tuned in, turned on and dropping out" of Kings College on 27.4.2010 is:

ICSR was launched with the First International Conference on Radicalisation and Political Violence in London on 17-18 January 2008. The conference brought together close to 100 senior policymakers, scholars, journalists and practitioners from five continents and more than 20 countries, making it the most important global forum to deal with the issue of radicalization in many years.

So, here's some radical date arithmetic for you:

From the first day of the ICSR launch at Kings College on 17.1.2008 to Roshonara Choudhry being "tuned in, turned on and dropping out" of the very same Kings College, allegedly due to Our Lackey allegedly radicalising her over the radicalising internet on 27.4.2010 is:

The police investigation found that in the last quarter of 2009 Choudhry began downloading from the internet sermons and material from Anwar al-Awlaki, the Islamist cleric who western officials say is the spiritual leader of al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula. He preached the need for violent action to combat the atrocities of the west against Muslims around the world, and urged followers to do what they could, when they could, no matter how small.

From the, As Quick As Possible, marketing launch of the obstacle to Barack Obama's intention to close Guantanamo, aka AQAP, on 22.1.2009 to the Roshonara Choudhry event on 14.5.2010 is an interval of:

This interview was conducted four hours after Choudhry's arrest for stabbing Stephen Timms. Choudhry was interviewed by Simon Dobinson, a detective sergeant from Newham police, with detective constable Syed Hussain. Choudhry says she was studying English and Communications at King's College London, but dropped out on 27 April 2010, in her third year.

For me it clearly shows why Stephen Timms was chosen as the target for this script.

It implies that someone, somewhere has gone through the list of MPs that voted for the illegal invasion of Iraq and chosen an MP whose birth date fits with the chosen root date for this event - 27.4.2010

In classic form, this is another illustration of the real perps accusing others of what they have done themselves, as this was the accusation levelled at Roshonara Choudhry and the fly trap web site that she is alleged to have mentioned, revolutionmuslim.com

Unless of course you are of the opinion that Roshonara Choudhry worked all these dates out for herself ....

I recall reading at the time that Roshonara Choudhry had been having some kind of counselling, but haven't managed to find anything now, so if anyone knows anything of this, I'd appreciate knowing it too.

Found a reference in the police interview document: Not sure if this is the one I recall because this was published after the trial.

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Q OK, so explain to me again why, why him? Lots of people voted for the war in Iraq, lots of MPs.

A Yeah, erm, it's because ... well, even the doctor asked me that: so like are you ... were you gonna kill everyone? And I told him that I'm just one person and I did what I could.

I don't know if this is a reference to a doctor before the event or perhaps a police doctor after the event and before the interview.

Curious.

The absence of Ms Choudry from the court proceedings is described here:

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R v CHOUDHURY

The recent case of Roshanara Choudhury (represented by Jeremy Dein QC and Ben Smitten and instructed by Edward Fail Bradshaw and Waterson) gave rise to some novel problems for the defence team.

In May of this year, Miss Choudhury stabbed Stephen Timms, Labour MP for East Ham at his constituency surgery.

Choudhury, an outstanding student at King’s college, London, had purchased two knives from a ”pound shop“, visited Mr Timms’ Surgery, and there attempted to kill him.

When arrested for GBH, she immediately said she had stabbed him due to his support for the war in Iraq.

When interviewed, Miss Choudhury underlined that this was an attempt to kill, her motive being “to get revenge for the people of Iraq”.

From charge onwards the defendant’s standpoint remained consistent in that she refused to recognise the jurisdiction of the court and that she would play no active role in these proceedings. Furthermore, due to her refusal to subject herself to what she considered to be the humiliation of a strip and search as required, she declined to exit her prison wing for any purpose, least of all to attend the Old Bailey.

In consultation by video link, the defendant firmly instructed her counsel to neither challenge nor undermine the prosecution case and confirmed that she did not intend to give evidence.

Notably though, the need for legal representation was never questioned.

At the PCMH, [plea and case management hearing] the judge entered a plea of not guilty on Miss Choudhury’s behalf. A date for trial was fixed although neither the defendant nor any defence expected were to feature, the Crown simply having to prove its case.

An application was made for the defendant to observe her “trial” by video link. Cooke J held that there may be circumstances, exceptionally, where video link might be a sensible method of ensuring participation for a defendant who would not otherwise be able to participate, though not to give evidence ( per Ukpabio 2007 EWCA crim 2108).

However, the judge ruled, Miss Chouhury’s unwillingness to succumb to a strip search, thus her absence, did not provide justification.

At the trial itself, the evidence was not agreed so witnesses were called, but not cross examined.

At its conclusion, neither counsel made a closing speech, the jury having been made aware of the defendant’s standpoint.

Summing up was delivered in traditional form, and having retired, the jury unsurprisingly convicted the defendant, albeit in her absence.

Quite separately, the provisions of s57E Crime and Disorder Act 1998 were implemented to facilitate video link for the purpose of mitigation and sentence. The proceedings had lasted barely two court days. At their conclusion, Miss Choudhury, 21, was sentenced over the link to life with a minimum term of 15 years.

Andrew Pennington and Nigel Jones MP - 28.1.2000

You may recall the previous time a Member of Parliament was attacked in his constituency surgery with a bladed weapon, when, sadly, Nigel Jones' assistant, Andrew Pennington died, when he stepped in to help his MP, during the attack by Robert Ashman with a Samurai sword on 28.1.2000.

The assassination attempt on the politican Nigel Jones, MP, and the assassination of his assistant Andrew Pennington, looks like it was probably referenced to the assassination of JFK:

From the assassination of JFK on 22.11.1963 to the assassination of Andrew Pennington on 28.1.2000 is:

From the assassination of Andrew Pennington and attempted assassination of Nigel Jones, MP, on 28.1.2000 to Roshonara Choudhry being "tuned in, turned on and dropping out" of college on 27.4.2010 is an interval of:

From the assassination of Andrew Pennington and attempted assassination of Nigel Jones MP on 28.1.2000 to Roshonara Choudhry's attempted assassination of Stephen Timms, MP, on 14.5.2010 is an interval of:

A MAN who tried to murder an MP with a samurai sword before killing his assistant was sent to a mental hospital yesterday.

Mrs Justice Hallett, sentencing Robert Ashman at the Royal Courts of Justice, said she doubted whether he would ever be safe to be released. Ashman, 52, was convicted in April of attempting to murder Nigel Jones, the Liberal Democrat MP for Cheltenham.

He had admitted, on the ground of diminished responsibility, the manslaughter of Mr Jones's assistant, Andrew Pennington. Ashman can be freed only on the orders of the Home Secretary or a tribunal chaired by a senior judge.

Psychiatrists who examined Ashman found he had a severe mental disorder and suffered from delusions and a persecution complex.

His imagined persecutors included Lloyds TSB, Cheltenham Borough Council and the chief constable of Gloucestershire.

After the killing, he was initially sent to Broadmoor maximum secure hospital. However, when he was sentenced in September 2003, he was transferred to Kneesworth House in Royston, Hertfordshire, a medium secure unit, after he admitted manslaughter and was convicted of attempted murder.

Robert Ashman actually murdered someone and is free after serving only 8 years.

Roshonara Choudhry didn't murder anyone and is sentenced to a minimum of 15 years.

._________________The Medium is the Massage - Marshall McLuhan.

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You may recall the case of Nicky Reilly, who is reported to have let off a firecracker in the toilets of the Giraffe Cafe in Exeter, Devon on 22 May 2008

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Reilly, 22, is a Muslim convert who has spent time detained in a mental health hospital. He has been described as a shambling introvert with the mental age of a 10-year-old. He is believed to have Asperger’s syndrome, a form of autism, and may also suffer from schizophrenia......

The date of this event, as usual, demonstrates an acute awareness by the perp or his handlers of it's relationship to the Jihad and to another event in a cafe in another part of the world the previous year.

Now, if I'm reading this wrong and Mr Reilly was in fact a conscious and free-willed terrorist, then I'm open to be persuaded, but until I read anything substantial to support such a claim, I'll continue assuming he was just another in a long line of useful idiots.

On the day of the crucial vote in the House of Commons, where MPs were to decide on the proposal for 90 day detention without charge of terrorist suspects, 3 bombs exploded in Amman. Jordan's 9/11, as if to focus MP's minds:

Not so much of a comedy for Dhiren Barot, but was he, unwittingly, playing the role of Dromio and the script attributed to the chap who is alleged to be KSM, being read for the false creation of Antipholus ?

Dhiren Barot vis Esa al-Hindi vis the alleged confessions from the chap who is alleged to be KSM, who has alleged that a chap called al-Britani was sent to case financial buildings on the US east coast ?

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The confused Dromio, sure that he hasn't said what Antipholus thinks he said, finds "neither rhyme nor reason" in the accusation—that is, neither order nor inherent sense.

The confusion, though neither knows it, is due to the existence of twin Antipholuses and Dromios;

Farcical episodes of mistaken identity account for the entire plot of the play.

becomes:

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The confused Dhiren Barot, sure that he hasn't done what KSM says he has done, and sure that he is not the al-Britani that the false KSM says he is, finds "neither rhyme nor reason" in the accusation - that is, neither order nor inherent sense.

The confusion, though neither knows of the other, is due to the creation of a false KSM and a false al-Britani.

A deliberately constructed script of two false identities, accounts for the entire Operation Rhyme plot.

Security sources believe Barot was probably the person identified in the 9/11 commission's report as Issa al-Britani, who, according to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, principal architect of 9/11, learned his craft from Hambali, alleged mastermind of the Bali bombing, and went to New York to check out potential targets at the behest of Bin Laden.

On September 11, 2002, members of Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) claimed to have killed or captured Khalid Sheikh Mohammed during a raid in Karachi that resulted in bin al-Shibh's capture. Some people have reported that Mohammed escaped, but that his family was captured.

Was the alleged "capture of the architect of 9/11", or whomever that chap really is, going to happen anyway, or was it a response to the government being forced, by the 9/11 families to hold an enquiry in the first place ?

...he (KSM) sent al Qaeda operative Issa al Britani to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to learn about the jihad in Southeast Asia from Hambali. Thereafter, KSM claims, at Bin Ladin’s direction in early 2001, he sent Britani to the United States to case potential economic and “Jewish” targets in New York City.

4. ... According to Hambali, in late 1999 or early 2000 KSM sent an al Qaeda operative named Issa al Britani to visit Hambali in Malaysia. At the end of the visit, Issa provided Hambali with two addresses—one in the United States (“possibly in California”) and one in South Africa—and told Hambali he could contact “people in those locations” if he “needed help.” Hambali claims he never contacted anyone at either address or passed either address to anyone else, and claims not to remember the addresses. Intelligence report, interrogation of Hambali, Sept. 12, 2003.

Alleged KSM intel report vis al-Britani on 27.6.2003

So, according to the 9/11 Commission fiction, we learn that the first mention of an "al-Britani" is, allegedly, on 27.6.2003.

From his alleged capture on 1.3.2003 to the alleged intel report dated 27.6.2003 which first mentions the probably fictitious al-Britani is, inclusive :

It is alleged in the indictment that Dhiren Barot visited the US on 17 August 2000 and returned to the UK on 14 November 2000. DB visited again on 11.3.2001 and returned on 8.4.2001. The last two days were spent sightseeing and some video was recorded as tourists do.

Over 4 years later, Dhiren Barot, then turned into KSM's al-Britani and the sightseeing trip then became a surveillance trip for terrorism.

It was reported that the alleged, "surveillance savvy" Dhiren Barot, whose alleged colleagues allegedly travelled from London to Swansea, just to use the internet, was arrested whilst "having a haircut" in his local barbers, called "The Golden Touch" in Willesden.

His alleged colleagues, the so-called "Luton Cell" were also arrested on the same date on 3.8.2004.

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A counter-terrorism source [DAC Peter Clarke] admitted:

"It is no exaggeration to say that, at the time of the arrest, there was little or no admissible evidence against Barot."

In apprehending Al Muhajir [aka Jose Padilla] as he sought entry into the United States, we have disrupted an unfolding terrorist plot to attack the United States by exploding a radioactive "dirty bomb."

Now, a radioactive "dirty bomb" involves exploding a conventional bomb that not only kills victims in the immediate vicinity but also spreads radioactive material that is highly toxic to humans and can cause mass death and injury.

Apparently, the book that got Mr Dhiren Barot into all that trouble, allegedly written under the name of Esa Al-Hindi, called The Army of Madinah in Kashmir, was published by the Maktabah Al Ansar Publications - the very same bookshop business that was raided in 2000 and 2007.

Which makes for a very interesting link to Dhiren Barot's arrest on 3.8.2004:

From the Maktabah Al Ansaar bookshop raid on 29.2.2000 to the arrest of Dhiren Barot on 3.8.2004 is:

Dhiren Barot, Mohammed Naveed Bhatti, Abdul Aziz Jalil, Omar Abdul Rehman, Junade Feroze, Zia Ul Haq, Qaisar Shaffi and Nadeem Tarmohammed, on diverse days between the 1st day of January 2000 and the 4th day of August 2004, conspired together and with other persons unknown to murder other persons contrary to section 1 (1) of the criminal law act 1977.

2. Conspiracy to commit public nuisance.

Dhiren Barot, Mohammed Naveed Bhatti, Abdul Aziz Jalil, Omar Abdul Rehman, Junade Feroze, Zia Ul Haq, Qaisar Shaffi and Nadeem Tarmohammed, on diverse days between the 1st day of January 2000 and the 4th day of August 2004, conspired together and with other persons unknown to commit public nuisance by the use of radioactive materials, toxic gases, chemicals and/or explosives to cause disruption, fear or injury contrary to Section 1 (1) of the Criminal Law Act 1977.

3. Possessing a document or record of information of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism.

Dhiren Barot and Nadeem Tarmohammed, on a day or days between 19th day of February 2001 and 4th day of August 2004, had in their possession a document or record, namely a reconnaissance plan concerning the Prudential Building in New Jersey, containing information of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism contrary to Section 58 of the Terrorism Act 2000.

4. Possessing a document or record of information of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism.

Dhiren Barot, on a day or days between 19th day of February 2001 and 4th day of August 2004 had in his possession documents or records, namely a reconnaissance plan concerning the Stock Exchange in New York, a reconnaissance plan concerning the IMF in Washington DC, a reconnaissance plan concerning Citigroup in New York and two notebooks containing information on explosives, poisons, chemicals and related matters containing information of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism contrary to Section 58 of the Terrorism Act 2000.

5. Possessing a document or record of information of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism.

Qaisar Shaffi, on a day or days between 19th day of February 2001 and 4th day of August 2004 had in his possession documents or records, namely an extract of the Terrorist's Handbook containing information on the preparation of chemicals, explosive recipes and other information about explosives, containing information of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism contrary to Section 58 of the Terrorism Act 2000.

and:

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A ninth man, Matthew Philip Monks, of Sudbury, London, is being charged with possession of a prohibited weapon and will appear in a court to be determined at a later date.

Seven Luton cell activists were arrested alongside a local arm dealer Matthew Monks, 32, of Sudbury, London. He was held with Luton cell activists on 3 August, appeared at the Belmarsh court charged with possession of a prohibited weapon, and was released on bail.

An extract from one of the alleged "evidence" PDF's, allegedly created by Dhiren Barot, called: terror65-04gaslimos.pdf

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... Perhaps the best example of how a building can be totally gutted by an inferno (blaze) and more was that of the WTC. Here the fire temperature due to the burning of kerosene became so hot that it caused an entire metal meltdown.

Jerome Hauer: No, I, uh, my sense is just the velocity of the plane and the fact that you have a plane filled with fuel hitting that building, uh, that burned, uh, the velocity of that plane, uh, certainly, uh, uh, had an impact on the structure itself, and then the fact that it burned and you had that intense heat, uh, probably weakened the structure as well, uh, and I think it, uh, was, uh, simply the, uh, the planes hitting the buildings, and, and causing the collapse.

Among other tall tales revealed in Dhiren Barot's non-trial, (remember that none of this so-called evidence against him was ever tested), it was alleged that certain incriminating material, allegedly pertinent to the alleged crime, had been spliced within a DVD of the movie Die Hard With A Vengeance.

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A video of the Bruce Willis film Die Hard: With A Vengeance seized from a London garage was found to have footage shot in New York in April 2001 at the end of it.

Footage from his reconnaissance in New York was discovered concealed within a video of Bruce Willis' movie Die Hard with a Vengeance which is about terrorist attacks on New York. Police found the video tape in a London garage.

The following examples illustrate why one should always examine the alleged "facts" that are being delivered, because they are included in the narrative for a reason.

IMO, in this case, it is clear that the date of 18.8.1995 has been used as a root date, around which the entire so-called plot has been constructed.

We were told, at the time, that the arrest of Dhiren Barot was "forced" because of the arrest in Pakistan on 13.7.2004 of Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan, who, it was alleged, was Al Q's IT guru and the "leaking" of his name by the NYT.

Further, British authorities have revealed that Barot bought a book titled The World Bank Book in London on February 12, 2003. The Metropolitan Police website comments that this purchase demonstrated “that the USA plans were still being developed then.” 36

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- Barot's World Bank Book (Added 3/6/08 ) The Met Police report that Barot purchased this book on the World Bank "at Borders bookshop Charing Cross Road, London...on 12th February 2003. Barot's fingerprints [were] found on this book, which also had sections scanned onto the final attack plan for the World Bank and IMF buildings in Washington; demonstrating that the U.S. plans were still being developed then."

From Die Hard: With A Vengeance released in the UK on 18.8.1995 to DB allegedly buying the World Bank book at Borders, Charing Cross on 12.2.2003, (the day after we saw the army in tanks at Heathrow, an event which therefore carries the same signature from DHWAV-UK), is an interval of:

British security services had been aware for some time that a senior al-Qaida operative was in the UK, but did not know who he was. Barot was first identified and put under surveillance on June 15 2004, but he gave agents the slip in late July.

From the date of the first alleged intel report, allegedly obtained from the alleged KSM, allegedly naming someone called al-Britani, allegedly on 27.6.2003, to the alleged date that DB was allegedly first identified in the UK is:

On July 28 2004, surveillance teams lost sight of Barot, but he was tracked down again and arrested on August 3. "Such was the concern that an attack on this country may be imminent the authorities made a decision to arrest Barot and his co-defendants on the next occasion he was sighted," said Mr Lawson.

Whoever it was allegedly following Dhiren Barot, they had only been doing so for 43 days or P(7+7) days when they allegedly lost him on 28.7.2004.

An uncanny day to "do a Houdini" as it were, because from the alleged date that the chap who is alleged to be KSM, allegedly first identified a chap allegedly called Al-Britani, preceded DB's alleged bout of elusiveness by an interval of 396 days, - or P77 + 7 days or 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 days.

Houdini is also mentioned in the film.

Luckily, allegedly, the allegedly surveillance savvy Mr Al Q UK, part of a "gang" who allegedly drove "hundreds of miles" just to use the internet, was "found" again, having a haircut at his local barbers where he was arrested, having had only P7 months and P7 days to read his World Bank book.

From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to Dhiren Barot allegedly losing his spooky tail on 28.7.2004 is:

Little did Dhiren Barot know that the 28th July 2004 - the day he allegedly lost his spooky tail, was the day that marked 119 weeks before he was to be sentenced to 40 years on 7.11.2006.

119 weeks = 833 days = 7 x 7 x P7 days > 777

Prudential Targeting Package Initiated - 2.9.2001

After the court hearing, the MPS posted some of the "evidence" on their website. Among the many PDF's that were presented and were alleged to have been created by Dhiren Barot, was one called: East_Coast_Buildings_Plot.pdf

The detailed plans for Barot’s American operation were discovered in encrypted files on a DVD found in a Sainsbury’s carrier bag in the same garage. The password to unlock the file — MandiLoves/03ArmyofMadinah — was found in documents uncovered during an anti-terrorist raid in a house in Gujarat, Pakistan. When used to open the DVD, it revealed four detailed documents for attacks in Washington DC, New York and Newark, New Jersey.

The files were entitled “Holiday Pictures”, “Holiday Videos” and “Presentation”.

The proposed attack on the Prudential building in Newark was created on September 2, 2001, and had been revised on 21 occasions, most recently in February 2003. The 37-page document, prepared like a business plan, ended with a recommended mode of attack.

Security officials tell ABC News they have discovered links between the eldest of the London bombers, Mohammed Sadique Khan, 30, and the original group in Luton. Officials also believe it was not a coincidence the subway bombers all met at the Luton train station last week.

A chap called Alexis Debat is quoted in the ABC "story", a self-proclaimed "terrorism expert" who is reported to have been "a former official in the French Defense Ministry" who was a senior terrorism consultant for ABC News, until his contract was terminated because he is a fraud.

One of the most extraordinary aspects of the investigation was the sheer number of keys that police recovered. During the inquiry, detectives found more than 600 sets of keys and officers spent 14 months and visited more than 4,000 garages or lock-ups trying to match them up. The fear was that one could contain explosives or even radioactive material. Eventually they managed to match 77 keys, but hundreds remain unaccounted-for.

On 7.11.2006, the day of the 2006 US mid-term elections, the US electorate woke up to the UK's Dirty Bomb headlines, as Dhiren Barot was sentenced on 7.11.2006 to 40 years for conspiracy to murder and not for any terrorism offences.

The full details of Dhiren Barot's plot to set off a radioactive "dirty bomb" containing smoke detectors was revealed yesterday. At a cost of £70,000, Barot, 34, proposed building a bomb that would cause radiation sickness in about 500 people and produce mass panic.

The Muslim extremist suggested setting off the bomb incentral London, or a city in Spain or the United States, Woolwich Crown Court in London was told yesterday.

Edmund Lawson QC, for the prosecution, said that the plan appeared to have been based on an incident in France when a lorry carrying 900 smoke detectors crashed, provoking concern about possible exposure to radiation - the detectors contained small amounts of radioactive material.

In a terrorist document Barot wrote: "If something so small and simple such as 900 burning smoke detectors could cause so much havoc, then by increasing the amount used, the possibilities are good."

He suggested in his presentation document to al-Qa'ida leaders that the radiation project should use around 10,000 smoke detectors and either "set them alight" or "place them on top of an explosive device".

His proposal also contained research into the possible effects of the radioactivity released if such an attack was carried out, including the long-term risks of cancer and infertility.

Barot speculated that such a dispersal of radiation could cover a large area. He wrote: "The burning has the potential to affect around 500 people... as soon as we realised this... we concluded that it deserved to be an independent project in its own right."

He said the bomb would cost £50,000, with each smoke detector costing £5. He thought £20,000 might be needed for storage, bringing the total cost to £70,000.

In other suggestions, Barot discussed the consequences of train crashes and referred to the carnage caused following the Ladbroke Grove accident, the court heard. Barot wrote: "For some time now we have had thoughts on executing a project on a busy train network. Moreover, I have a personal friend who is a train driver. Every so often he takes a friend on to his train in the driver carriage with him just for the sake of company."

The document also contained Barot's comments on the Heathrow Express, where he speculates that gas could be leaked into the train during the day because it was relatively quiet.

In August, 1976, a sixty-four year old worker at Hanford, Harold McCluskey, [ aka Atomic Man ]was heavily contaminated, and nine others contaminated to a lesser degree, with americium-241 in an accident in which a cation exchange column at an americium recovery facility exploded. The explosion was thought to be the result of a reaction between nitric acid and products produced from the radiation-induced degradation of the cation exchange resin. The treatment of Mr. McCluskey over his lifetime (he died in August, 1987 as a result of complications of coronary artery disease) became a classic study of the techniques of medical care for such exposure.

The first fine ($102,500) imposed on the U.S. Air Force in the United States by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission was the result of an incident in 1989 at Wright-Patterson Air Force base in Ohio in which an employee conducting an inventory opened one of several drums containing americium-241. The drums were being stored without proper seals, and the site was not licensed for storage of radioactive materials.

A truck carrying 900 smoke detectors overturned and burned on the A31 highway in the area of Langres in eastern France on October 9, 1999. Because individual detectors did not contain large amounts of radioactive materials, the regulations for transport did not require that the truck carry the usual warning placard, and the truck (which was also carrying combustible liquids) was allowed to burn without any actions being taken to control radioactive contamination. Notification that the truck had contained radioactive materials was not made until October 13, 1999 (by the consignee for the shipment, who was only informed on October 12 of the loss). The cumulative release was estimated at 3.96 MBq, and about 40 people were potentially contaminated, although subsequent whole-body monitoring did not detect any of the material.

Terrorists and Americium-241

Because of its ready availability from smoke detectors, Am-241 appears to have had an attraction for terrorists. In August of 2004, when the British arrested 13 people under the Terrorism Act, a number of smoke detectors were found among the materials the suspects had accumulated. While the relatively small amounts of americium used in the average smoke detector meats that the terrorists would have had to accumulate a huge number of detectors to acquire sufficient radioactive material to actually cause injury, the feeling seems to have been that simply having something that would cause radiation detectors to respond might have been enough to accomplish the terrorists' goal of seeding fear (the charges against eight of the suspects included "Conspiracy to commit a public nuisance by the use of radioactive materials, toxic gases, chemicals, and/or explosives.").

It has also been suggested that terrorists may be interested in americium because it is a fissile material that could, in theory, be used to produce a nuclear bomb. However, given that the critical mass for an explosion is of the order of 80 kilograms, while worldwide production is only a few kilograms per year, it is unlikely that enough could ever be accumulated by nonstate actors to produce an explosive fission device.

Please also refer to the September 2004 fiction drama: 'The Grid' with leading actor Bernard Hill in which a 'home-grown' terrorist is jailed. In a final, deliberately emotive closing scene his jugular vein is slashed by other white convicts leading him to bleed out next to a toilet adjacent - by means of sarcastic innuendo - to an arrow pointing towards the Qibla (prayer direction for Muslims) and Makkah. Even though by and large it remains a quite unreal generally flop production, I had no doubt then, and now, that this grisly 'take' at the end was to drive home a real message to any potential young Muslim 'upstarts' out there. This being that one can expect mirrored treatment should they attempt to emulate or pick up from where other terror convicts have left off (those that are now imprisoned). In other words to drive the fear of God or 'terrorise' anyone from following suit.

Such images leave one to seriously question whether the media-controlling, manipulative Establishment actually wished for the like to transpire as part of their 'War on Terror'.

In grim hindsight there appears now to be no doubt, evidently.

6.7.2007 was the day that marked Dhiren Barot's time in custody since arrest on 3.8.2004, inclusive, as:

This is an extract from an article which is worth a read just for the imagination of the author if nothing else. John Mueller quotes another, unnamed fantasist, who explains the 3 year gap of inactivity between DB & Co's sightseeing trip to NYC in 2001, to the creation of a "terrorist plot" in August 2004, as "basking in the success of 9/11 ..."

I kid you not. Desperate, desperate stuff.

Anyway, the point is WTC93.

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In many respects, the plans seem to echo those of the terrorists who tried in 1993 to topple one of the World Trade Center’s towers by exploding a truck bomb in its underground parking garage. Although that bomb created considerable damage, it failed in its cosmic mission and killed few people. An evaluation of that experience would seem to have been vital to anyone exploring anything resembling a repetition.

On 20 August 2007 it was announced that the alleged Al Q's, alleged IT guru, Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan, who was allegedly arrested in Pakistan on 13.7.2004, had allegedly been released in Pakistan, allegedly without charge, allegedly several weeks ago ... allegedly ....

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Last Updated: Monday, 20 August 2007, 18:35 GMT 19:35 UK

Pakistan frees 'al-Qaeda suspect'

Mohammad Naeem Noor Khan

Mr Khan was arrested in the eastern city of Lahore in July 2004
A Pakistani computer expert alleged to have had links with al-Qaeda has been released without charge after three years in custody.

...

He noted that Mr Khan had been held without charge and had never appeared in court.

Security sources told the BBC that Mr Khan had been quietly released several weeks ago and that his home in Karachi was under surveillance.

Manchester United supporters have been helping Iraqi Kurdish refugees who were wrongly accused of plotting to bomb Old Trafford.

On 19 April 2004, over 400 police officers conducted dawn 'anti-terror' raids across the UK and arrested ten people on suspicion of the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism.

Within hours, the arrests were connected to an Al-Qaida plot to blow up Old Trafford - the home of Manchester United Football Club. Police sources were quoted in newspapers as saying 'the plot involved several individual bombers in separate parts of the stadium'.

Six men and a woman were arrested in Manchester and three men were arrested in Staffordshire, South Yorkshire and the West Midlands. They were identified as North Africans and Iraqi Kurds. They were all held for eight days and then released without charge. One of the men was to be deported and six others were arrested on other matters and then bailed.

An example of yet another phantom terrorist raid which has it's root in the 9/11 event and the proposed event, the soccer match between Man Utd and Liverpool at Old Trafford, the following Saturday on 24.4.2004, rooted to both 9/11 and the Jihad:

From 9/11 on 11.9.2001 to the Man Utd phantom bomb plot arrests on 19.4.2004, inclusive, is:

The Old Trafford fiasco, following on so closely from the Crevice arrests and the Madrid outrage, was another UK "event" that helped to set the "suicide bomber" meme, for the cold blooded murder that was to follow in London on 7.7.5

From the Old Trafford phantom bomb plot arrests on 19.4.2004 to London 7.7.2005 is an interval of:

One particular message posted on 20.2.2005, which the media latched onto states:

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Alright, i wont go into too much details about me fantasy, but basically they are jihad fantisies. I imagine how the great jihad will take place, how the muslims will win insha Allah and rule the whole world, and establish the greatest empire once again!!!

Negotiations concerning the agreements, an outgrowth of the Madrid Conference of 1991, were conducted secretly in Oslo, Norway, hosted by the Fafo institute, and completed on 20 August 1993; the Accords were subsequently officially signed at a public ceremony in Washington, DC on 13 September 1993

From the secret completion of the Oslo negotiations on 20.8.1993 to the Oslo event on 22.7.2011 is:

Some folk have suggested that this utterly ridiculous event occurred, simply to provide a lens through which to view the 7.7 bombings in London, 7+7 days earlier and thereby define the subsequent narrative about hydrogen peroxide based devices. Even though, we have been told that no explosive traces were found on 7/7!

That may well be the case, as it's about the best explanation I've heard and like many other so-called, Al Q events, it stands in stark contrast to the murderous events 2 weeks before.

April 5 — British authorities believe terror suspects arrested last week were planning to make a bomb that would include a highly toxic, easily obtained chemical called osmium tetroxide, ABCNEWS has learned.

Used primarily in laboratories for research, osmium tetroxide is known to attack soft human tissue and could blind or kill anyone who breathed its fumes. According to the New Jersey Department of Health, it is a colorless to pale yellow solid with a strong, unpleasant odor.

"It's a nasty piece of work," said Dave Siegrist, a bioterrorism expert at the Potomac Institute for Policy Studies in Arlington, Va. "It irritates the eyes, lungs, nose and throat. It leads to an asthma-like death, what we call a 'dry-land drowning.' "

Scientists say if, for example, the bomb used in the 1993 World Trade Center attack had produced such fumes, they would have wiped out the first police and rescue workers on the scene.

"They become overwhelmed by fumes," said Jerry Hauer, an expert on biological and chemical terrorism and the former director of public health preparedness at the Department of Health and Human Services, describing what could have happened. "They can go blind. This is not a benign chemical. It is very nasty."

Eight British citizens of Pakistani descent were arrested and taken into custody when 700 police raided 24 locations in and around London on March 30.

Investigators say British authorities moved in when they learned from electronic intercepts the dangerous chemical was involved in the plot. They had been the tracking group's activities for several months.

According to sources, there was some indication the group in custody was targeting Gatwick airport, the British public transportation system and enclosed shopping areas. British authorities feared it had the potential to be one of the worst attacks ever against the United Kingdom.

Even though the arrests were made in the United Kingdom, authorities say the operation was being run out of Pakistan by a suspected al Qaeda figure.

"They are creative in their planning," said Hauer. "They continue to work around our systems."

New Terror Link

This is the first time osmium tetroxide has been linked to possible terror use. It's sold, with few questions asked, on Internet sites, as are many industrial chemicals that could be equally as potent.

"You never see the supplier and the supplier never sees you," said Siegrist. "A package arrives on the doorstep a few days later."

U.S. officials say the likelihood of a chemical bomb is much greater than a biological and radiological one. Yet the United States has still not settled how to tighten restrictions on what are known as toxic industrial chemicals, which are well-known to al Qaeda bomb-makers and still easily available.

A planned poison gas attack, with the London Underground as a likely target, has been foiled by the security agencies, it was claimed yesterday.

The plot allegedly involved detonating a combined chemical and explosive "dirty bomb", producing fumes that can choke victims in a confined place. The conspiracy was uncovered after British and United States intelligence intercepted telephone calls within this country, as well as calls to Pakistan.

As well as Tube trains, passenger terminals at London Gatwick and Heathrow airports are believed to have been in the list of targets. However, it is believed the plot was exposed before the alleged terror cells had reached the position to carry out an attack. Security sources said yesterday that the attack involved the use of a chemical called osmium tetroxide in an explosion. However, security experts last night questioned whether such a chemical could be used in an attack by terrorists.

The substance turns from solid to gas in confined space and is highly corrosive to eyes, skin tissue and lungs, producing a symptom called "dry land drowning". It is believed that a fertiliser-based explosive would have been part of the package.

The telephone calls between the alleged plotters were intercepted by GCHQ in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, and the US National Security Agency. Al-Qa'ida leaders have been warning of a chemical attack since the 1999 bombings of the World Trade Centre in New York, and handbooks have been produced on how to manufacture "dirty bombs".

However, so far, the organisation and its affiliates had only carried out attacks with conventional explosives, and some experts pointed out yesterday that osmium tetroxide, which has a legitimate scientific use, did not fit the usual profile of a typical chemical warfare agent. They said handling the chemical would be potentially dangerous for would-be bombmakers.

Professor Alastair Hay, professor of environmental toxicology at Leeds University, said the substance, known as a "rare catalyst" a chemical that speeds experiments, could be used to speed up an explosion.

But he added: "It would not be in the same category as some radioactive substance which would continue to emit radiation and cause a problem in terms of clean-up. This would be something present, like a heavy metal lead, in the environment. I don't think it would be a major hazard and clean-up would not be a major problem."

Dr Steve Simpson, a senior lecturer in chemistry at the University of Salford, who works with the substance, said: "If you get the vapour in your eyes, even a small amount, it can turn them brown or black and you could be permanently blinded. It is so volatile that one could be in appreciable danger just opening a bottle. If one had 10 grams and opened it up in a normal-sized room, within a couple of minutes it would cause people's eyes to stream. Some people might feel a bit tight in the chest. It would cause massive panic."

Jerome Hauer is the Chief Executive Officer of The Hauer Group LLC, a consulting firm and has served as a member of the Hollis-Eden Pharamaceuticals board of directors since June 2004.

Hauer was the Acting Assistant Secretary for the Office of Public Health Emergency Preparedness (OPHP) within the US Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS). He was appointed by HHS Secretary Tommy G. Thompson on May 5, 2002 and served until replaced on April 28, 2004. In this role, Mr. Hauer was responsible for coordinating the country’s medical and public health preparedness and response to emergencies, including acts of biological, chemical and nuclear terrorism.

He was formerly the director of Office of Emergency Management under New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani from 1996 to 2000. Additionally, he was previously an employee of Kroll Inc. which studied biological terrorism attacks.

Hauer was the Director of the Indiana Department of Emergency Management from 1989 to 1993 during the gubernatorial administration of Evan Bayh. Hauer joined IBM in 1993 to manage programs for Hazardous Materials Response and Crisis Management and Fire Safety. For his production of related training videos he received the International Film and TV Critics of New York Bronze award in 1996. In the early 1990s he received a master's degree in emergency medical services from the Johns Hopkins University School of Hygiene and Public Health (now known as the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health) and later became a member of the Johns Hopkins Working Group on Civilian Bio Defense. He wrote several articles on possible bio terrorist attacks. On April 10, 1998 Hauer attended a "roundtable on genetic engineering and biological weapons" under President Bill Clinton.

On September 11, 2001, Jerome Hauer was a national security advisor with the Dept. of Health and Human Services, a managing director with Kroll Associates, and a guest on national television, because of his background in counter-terror and his specialized knowledge of biological warfare.

You gotta laugh at those Wiki chaps... 122 edits since July 2006 and hardly any valuable information for the uninformed.

Four men are being questioned by UK police investigating a Sunday newspaper's claims that a group of businessmen were trying to buy radioactive material.

Three men were held on Friday after Met Police anti-terrorist branch officers targeted a hotel in Brent Cross, London.

The fourth was arrested later at his north London home. The arrests followed a tip-off from the News of the World.

A BBC correspondent said police had not found any radioactive or bomb-making material but that searches were ongoing.

The men have been arrested on suspicion of commissioning, preparing or instigating acts of terrorism.

BBC Home Affairs correspondent Margaret Gilmore said: "The allegation is that these men, who we understand are all businessmen, were trying to buy radioactive materials.

"The suspicion, and this is what the police are questioning them about now, is that they were trying to get hold of radioactive materials to sell them on to terrorists."

'Not highly significant'

She said although searches of houses and premises were still going on, police had not found any radioactive material or a "bomb in the making".

"They don't believe they have arrested highly significant people, on the other hand they have possibly stopped something in the making," she added.

The newspaper claimed it sent in an undercover reporter posing as a Muslim extremist following a tip-off that a Saudi sympathetic to "the Muslim cause" was willing to pay £300,000 for a kilo of powerful, radioactive "red mercury".

The chemical is said to have been developed by Russian scientists for "briefcase nuclear bombs", although scientists are divided over whether any actually exists.

According to the News of the World, meetings were held with gang members hoping to supply the radioactive material to their Middle Eastern buyer.

Police marksmen

Gary Thompson, associate editor of the News Of The World said the story followed covert investigations by its reporter Mazher Mahmood.

"He alerted police who made the arrests. We do not know what specific details there were of any targets (for bombs)," he said.

Police marksmen and surveillance teams surrounded the Holiday Inn hotel in Brent Cross on Friday and the arrests were made.

Police have 14 days to question the suspects, who are being questioned at Paddington Green police station in central London, after which they must be charged or released.

A Metropolitan Police spokesman said on Saturday: "Several addresses have been searched. Some searches continue."

Four men have been arrested on suspicion of terrorist offences following a sting operation organised by a Sunday newspaper, police said last night.

Three men were seized in a "pre-planned" operation by officers from the Metropolitan Police's anti-terrorist branch at a hotel in Brent Cross, north London on Friday. The fourth man was arrested later at his north London home.

The sting was set up after a News of the World reporter, posing as a "Muslim extremist", infiltrated a gang which was allegedly trying to buy radioactive material for an unnamed Saudi Arabian man.

The newspaper's investigations editor, Mazher Mahmood, went undercover after claiming to have received a tip-off that a Saudi sympathetic to "the Muslim cause" was willing to pay £300,000 for a kilogram of powerful, radioactive "Red Mercury". The chemical is said to have been developed by Soviet scientists for "briefcase nuclear bombs", but, said the newspaper, "scientists are divided over whether any actually exists".

The News of the World said: "We sent in our investigations editor Mazher Mahmood who, working undercover, convinced the gang he knew where to get hold of Red Mercury." Mahmood, known as "The Fake Sheikh" as he has often worn Saudi robes when working undercover, was allegedly told that the chemical would be used either "here in the UK or the USA".

A series of meetings were then held with the gang members including a merchant banker "who was on the look out for nuclear bomb-making material for a client in the Middle East", the newspaper claims. It called in Scotland Yard before the penultimate meeting. A final meeting was arranged at the Holiday Inn in Brent Cross on Friday. Police marksmen and surveillance teams surrounded the hotel and the gang was arrested.

A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "Acting on information received from the News of the World on 24 September, officers from the Met's anti-terrorist branch arrested three men ... under section 41 of the Terrorism Act ... All four men have been taken into custody at a central London police station."

Mahmood has gained a high profile after a series of investigations. After his story on an alleged plot to kidnap Victoria Beckham and her sons in November 2002, five men were arrested. But it emerged the newspaper's informant, Florim Gashi, was paid £10,000 by the newspaper and the case against the alleged kidnappers collapsed.

The WMD no one wants to “officially” talk about… Its deadly potential cannot be ignored!!!

On Friday, September 24, 2004, British police arrested 4 suspects for allegedly trying to purchase a ‘highly powerful, radioactive material, originally made in Russia, know as’ Red Mercury’.

These four supposedly were willing to pay $ 541,000 a kilogram, on behalf of a Saudi Arabian, (described as sympathetic to the Muslim cause’), whose name was not disclosed.

“The News of the World said that the material was developed by Soviet scientists during the Cold War for making briefcase nuclear bombs that could kill people within a few city blocks.”

Sam Cohen, the physicist who invented the neutron bomb, sheds a little more light on the destructive power of red mercury. As quoted from a June 15, 1997 article by Christopher Ruddy of the Tribune-Review, it states:

‘Most frightening for Cohen is the relative ease by which neutron bombs can be created with a substance called red mercury. Red mercury is a compound containing mercury that has undergone irradiation. When exploded, it creates tremendous heat and pressure – the same type needed to trigger a fusion device such as a mini-neutron bomb.

Before, an obstacle to creating a nuclear bomb was the need for plutonium, which when exploded could create a fusion reaction in hydrogen atoms. But red mercury has changed that. The cheap substance has been produced in Russia, Cohen said, and shipped on the black market throughout the world.

Cohen said that when UN inspectors went to Iraq to examine the Iraqi’s nuclear weapons capabilities, the U.N. team found documents showing that they had purchased quantities of red mercury. The material means that a neutron bomb can be built “the size of a baseball” but able to kill everyone within several square blocks.”

Another article, “The Balance of Terror and the Red Mercury Nightmare” states that ‘Iraq possesses “s-megaton” micro-nuclear warheads. These are softball sized two-megaton fusion bombs triggered by an irradiated and compressed compound of mercury antimony oxide. This device doubles the nuclear yield with a hundredfold reduction in weight. Using heavy hydrogen instead of uranium or plutonium to fuel its explosive reaction, this handheld nuclear weapon cannot be detected by U.S. sensors.’

Red Mercury….The CIA says that it does not exist, yet terrorist organizations worldwide are willing to pay outrageous amounts of money to procure it…Scientists have alluded that nuclear weapons containing red mercury, can enter the United States, UNDETECTED, be placed in cities all across the country, and cause cataclysmic destruction…from a nuclear bomb, of incredible power, the size of a softball…I don’t know about you folks, but this REALLY scares me!

Now, what bothers me even more, is that last year, confidential intelligence sources informed me that a Special Ops unit in Iraq had lost track of about a ton of red mercury. I have not heard anything to the contrary, so I am assuming that it is still missing. How could that happen???

According to the research that I have done and talking to the contacts that I have in the Intelligence community, red mercury not only destroys human life, but kills every living thing in its path for eternity!!! In other words, where its destructive energy has touched, NOTHING will ever live again, not at least in our lifetime!

Let me go one further, my sources inform me that it would only take a teaspoon of red mercury to kill all living creatures in the Great Lakes.

So now that I have your attention….think about this…..We have all seen or heard about the posts from the Arabic forums that indicate that an American city will disappear (to refresh your memory click here), are these threats really that far-fetched????

Think again!

***Special thanks to Doug Hagmann of NEIN for bringing red mercury to my attention last year!

Most frightening for Cohen is the relative ease by which neutron bombs can be created with a substance called red mercury. Red mercury is a compound containing mercury that has undergone massive irradiation. When exploded, it creates tremendous heat and pressure - the same type needed to trigger a fusion device such as a mini-neutron bomb.

Before, an obstacle to creating a nuclear bomb was the need for plutonium, which when exploded could create a fusion reaction in hydrogen atoms. But red mercury has changed that. The cheap substance has been produced in Russia, Cohen said, and shipped on the black market throughout the world.

Cohen said that when U.N. inspectors went to Iraq to examine the Iraqis' nuclear weapons capabilities, the U.N. team found documents showing that they had purchased quantities of red mercury. The material means a neutron bomb can be built "the size of baseball" but able to kill everyone within several square blocks.

Perhaps the Red Mercury hoax was a "required event" that was manufactured to make sense of and somehow validate, the very revealing, humiliating and embarrassing mess of the Home Office / Tom Ridge Dirty Bomb event on 7.11.2002 ?

From the Home Office / Tom Ridge dirty bomb warning of 7.11.2002 to the Red Mercury dirty bomb NOTW/ MI5 hoax on 24.9.2004 is an interval of:

A tenure that probably marked the takeover of the US government by the three letter agencies, to ensure that the Nixon scenario would never happen again and not forgetting the implementation of the plan for world domination.

._________________The Medium is the Massage - Marshall McLuhan.

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Operation Overamp saw anti terror police raid the Bridge to Chinatown restaurant in Borough, London on 1.9.2006, over terrorist training.

The facsimile of Bibi Netanyahu's anti-terrorism strategy, aka, the Terrorism Act 2000, the UK's first ever permanent anti-terror laws, designed with help from the ubiquitous "terrorologist" and expert witness in trials, Dr Bruce Hoffman, of the RAND corporation and Prof Paul Wilkinson at St Andrews and part funded by CFR affiliate, Washington Policy and Analysis Inc, came into force on 19.2.2001.

TACT2000 is the UK's main anti-terrorism legislation and has been added to with various other acts since.

IMO, especially during the early days of any charges brought under new TACT legislation, the TACT2000 provisions should be viewed as the default, fall-back legislation, even when, for example TACT2006 charges are used, invariably there are also TACT2000 charges to use, just in case.

The Terrorism Act 2006 (TACT2006) received Royal Assent on 30.3.2006 and the majority of it's provisions came into force on that date.

Quote:

Terrorism Act 2006

The Terrorism Act 2006 (pdf 216K), came into force on 30 March 2006. The Act makes it a criminal offence to encourage terrorism, including to glorify terrorism; to disseminate terrorist publications, including by extremist bookshops and through Internet activity; to prepare or plan to commit a terrorist act, or to assist others to do so; and to give or receive terrorist training, or to attend a terrorist training camp.

BBC home affairs correspondent Margaret Gilmore says the charging of one of the men has made legal history.

"One of the men has been accused of funding terrorism under a law which has been used before but the second man is accused for the first time under a specific part of the Terrorism Act 2006 with receiving training for the purposes of terrorism."

From London 7/7 on 7.7.2005 to the Op Overamp arrests on 1.9.2006 is an interval of:

Operation Ealing: Operation Ealing is an investigation into a bookshop and the on-line distribution centre for terrorist related literature. Ahmed Faraz was charged with offences relating to the possession and distribution of terrorist material and the trial is scheduled for October 2011.

Note: Ahmed Faraz aka Abu Baker/Abu Bakr,

Mr Faraz / Bakr worked at the Maktabah Al Ansaar bookshop in Birmingham.

This bookshop was originally raided in 1999 and again on 29.2.2000, way before anyone dreamed of planes being used as missiles (hey Condi ?) and way, way before the odious TACT2000 hit the streets let alone the new distibution & glorification offences which were enacted under TACT2006.

The bookshop was raided again as part of the WM CTU's effort to secure convictions in the beheading plot of 31 January 2007.

So, you can see that this arrest has a huge back story and deserves thoroughly researching as a subject on it's own.

The most excellent J7 forum has the story here. Follow the links, read, think and work it out.

Here's an interesting fact about the Maktabah Al Ansaar bookshop business, which I understand, at the time of Mr Faraz's arrest on 26.1.2010 was only operating on-line as the shop had closed after the raid in January 2007.

Apparently, the book that got Mr Dhiren Barot into all that trouble, allegedly written under the name of Esa Al-Hindi, called The Army of Madinah in Kashmir, was published by the Maktabah Al Ansar Publications - the very same bookshop business that was raided in 2000 and 2007.

Which makes for a very interesting link to Dhiren Barot's arrest on 3.8.2004:

From the Maktabah Al Ansaar bookshop raid on 29.2.2000 to the arrest of Dhiren Barot on 3.8.2004 is:

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