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There's no need for testing to conclude if a proc is OP or not. A 10% chance to proc a 2,2k bubble on a hunter is simply OP. Same goes for +10% mits for the whole fellowship. On the crits: I know what I hit on the dummies in Snowbourn. So I went there and tested it. I got more DPS on BR than on live. Right now, creeps are being one shotted. So yeah. No balance, imho. Ok, Impale takes 10k morale off your bar, but still... No balance.

A 2,2k bubble or 10% mit isn't going to be a deal breaker with the changes to the creeps, 9 corruptions, morale increases coming in will make them formidable opponents in the right hands. Getting back to my original point, your basing everything you've seen on an assumption with no real testing of how a freep (highly geared) will face off against a creep. I too have hit the training dummies and seen some rather high crits but it won't be anything like attacking a creeps with high crit defence, morale heals etc.

To re-en-phase my point, you can't make any judgements until we've all seen the reality of these changes.

I'd be very surprised if these items didn't proc in the Moors given past items have.

A 2,2k bubble or 10% mit isn't going to be a deal breaker with the changes to the creeps, 9 corruptions, morale increases coming in will make them formidable opponents in the right hands. Getting back to my original point, your basing everything you've seen on an assumption with no real testing of how a freep (highly geared) will face off against a creep. I too have hit the training dummies and seen some rather high crits but it won't be anything like attacking a creeps with high crit defence, morale heals etc.

To re-en-phase my point, you can't make any judgements until we've all seen the reality of these changes.

I'd be very surprised if these items didn't proc in the Moors given past items have.

Lob

Bialy scored a critical hit with Blinding Upshot on Drombruk for 43,026 Light damage to Morale.

A 2,2k bubble or 10% mit isn't going to be a deal breaker with the changes to the creeps, 9 corruptions, morale increases coming in will make them formidable opponents in the right hands. Getting back to my original point, your basing everything you've seen on an assumption with no real testing of how a freep (highly geared) will face off against a creep. I too have hit the training dummies and seen some rather high crits but it won't be anything like attacking a creeps with high crit defence, morale heals etc.

Correct, the new slots (12), would be a considerable boost, if not for the huge crits. I know of at least three classes (Hunter, Lore-master, Captain), that they can 1-3 shot creeps.

To re-en-phase my point, you can't make any judgements until we've all seen the reality of these changes.

I genuinely hope so... Because otherwise we'll see a lot of creeps go.

I'd be very surprised if these items didn't proc in the Moors given past items have.

Lob

Well... Warden proc: 1500 damage every 2s for 10s. Champ proc: 2 Fervour every 2s for 10s, on hit: +10% max morale and 10% morale heal... Since I think a game shouldn't be dependant on procs, I'd say freeps & creeps should be on par without them. That's why I personally think these procs are quite gamebreaking. You can't have a hunter being blown up "because he had no proc jewellery", right?

Correct, the new slots (12), would be a considerable boost, if not for the huge crits. I know of at least three classes (Hunter, Lore-master, Captain), that they can 1-3 shot creeps.

I genuinely hope so... Because otherwise we'll see a lot of creeps go.

Well... Warden proc: 1500 damage every 2s for 10s. Champ proc: 2 Fervour every 2s for 10s, on hit: +10% max morale and 10% morale heal... Since I think a game shouldn't be dependant on procs, I'd say freeps & creeps should be on par without them. That's why I personally think these procs are quite gamebreaking. You can't have a hunter being blown up "because he had no proc jewellery", right?

Well this game needa balance in the first place, so procs are a minor thing really

Well this game needa balance in the first place, so procs are a minor thing really

Not if those procs are pretty overpowered... Balance is far off anyway... Too much freep & Impale damage. Champions are underpowered, unlike I thought at first, so at least I won't get any QQ for playing one.

Not if those procs are pretty overpowered... Balance is far off anyway... Too much freep & Impale damage. Champions are underpowered, unlike I thought at first, so at least I won't get any QQ for playing one.

Lob told you the right thing , wait that the game goes live. QQ ing before it is live it's a bit lol

They usually dont change much after NDA is lifted and if they are going to keep the classes as they are we are in for a nice ride with burg grief, macro exploits, minis killing reavers before charge is over and hunter critting 30-45k...

They usually dont change much after NDA is lifted and if they are going to keep the classes as they are we are in for a nice ride with burg grief, macro exploits, minis killing reavers before charge is over and hunter critting 30-45k...

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