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Monday, July 30, 2012

Lisa Irwin Update

It's been awhile since I have updated my readings about Lisa Irwin, the Kansas City ten month old who disappeared either very late on October 3, 2011, or very early the following day. I went ahead and found a picture of her, but one thing to keep in mind is that children at that age change quickly as they grow, and if Lisa Irwin is still alive, she does not look like she does in this picture anymore.

My question for the Tarot is "why hasn't Lisa Irwin been found?" The first three cards, representing the past, are the King of Swords, the Knight of Cups, reversed, and the Queen of Pentacles, reversed. These are three adults, and it surprises me that no one has talked yet. The King of Swords is an adult male involved in law in some way or another, and the Knight of Cups reversed is a young man, less mature than the King, who is completely dishonest. Upright, he is a messenger who tells the truth, but reversed, this card almost always tells us that a liar is in the picture. Next, we have the Queen of Pentacles, reversed, and she is an emotional, irrational, selfish, not-so-nice, evil woman. These are the people who have helped cover this baby's whereabouts. The King here may not have helped on purpose, but he was either used by the two other individuals, or he accidently made the wrong choice about how to go about solving this case. I think he is a policeman.

The next three cards represent the present, and they are the Emporer, the Queen of Wands, and the six of swords, reversed. This is interesting: the Emporer is the card that tells of the "father" presence or the "father" influence, and I was, and still am, convinced that Lisa's father is the reversed Knight in the above paragraph. So who is this Emporer? Could the reversed Knight be ready to go straight on us, and start cooperating with law enforcement? It might be on the table, somehow. The Queen of Wands is a woman who somehow has an influence here, and she was not a part of the past, but is new on the scene, and new to the case. She is very determined to solve this case. Now; the next card bothers me, but is not a surprise; the six of swords reversed. Upright, this is a card of travel. Reversed, it means the opposite, which also means that Lisa has been in the same place for a very long time.

For the future, we have the three of cups, reversed, the four of swords, and Strength. The three of cups tells of a situation involving too much substance abuse, too much celebrating....excesses in general. So somehow, drinking and substance abuse continue to be an issue in keeping Lisa hidden vs. finding her. The next card is the four of swords, which is a card of rest, or dormancy. I think the message here is that the case has stalled for now, and is "dormant". Strength is the last card, and one of it's literal meanings has to do with trumping "carnal" inclinations, such as substance abuse. Something else that came to me is the picture on that card: a woman petting a tamed lion. I think it is possible that Lisa may be found one day by someone walking a dog, or chasing down a pet cat! Completely by accident!

My last question was "where is Lisa?", and I drew the Lovers, reversed. This card has to do with couples, choices, and water is also a symbol on this card. I think it is directing us to look at all three of those things. A couple who made a terrible choice, and water as part of the picture, somehow.

How nice to hear from you, my Gentle Troll! Forces of all kinds rearrange many things. I am hoping that it is in the cards, so to speak, for little Lisa to be found. While her parents may not wish to cooperate, this whole matter has had an impact on her community. I am just trying to help.

I'm sorry, but where did you see that her parents weren't cooperating? From the KCPD? Wow, what a reliable source you have there! I like how you conveniently ignore that fact that they got a warrant knowing that Jeremy would've signed whatever search papers they needed. It was all for the news. And fools like you fell for it. Not surprising since you think there is a such thing as a magical deck of cards. And I'm not a troll. I'm honestly asking because I'm trying to assess how insane you are.

Don't start with me. Yes, the KCPD did, as a matter of fact, state that the parents were not cooperating. If they did cooperate, the baby would have been found. Also, I am personally offended by the way they passed themselves off as a married couple when Debbie Bradley is married to someone other than Lisa's father. Call me old fashioned, but marriage matters to me. Also, because they are not husband and wife, they do not have spousal privileges in court or at the police station, yet they refuse to interview separately with police. Were you foolish enough to fall for their "married" act? Why not assess how insane you are? Divination has been around for years. If you do not like it, why do you come to this website? Yes, you ARE a troll. That's ok, I accept you as you are, as long as it does not get out of control.

"If they did cooperate, the baby would have been found." I'm sorry, do you have a source for this information? Maybe you should call the KCPD yourself since you seem to know so much more than everyone else does. You don't know that they refused to be interviewed separately. As a matter of fact, they WERE interviewed separately. Just because some local news moron said something doesn't make it true. And they actually do live like husband and wife. Debbie's legal marriage is paper only. She hasn't even seen that man in like 4 or 5 years. Just because I disagree with you doesn't make me a troll. Maybe you should brush up on your internet slang. As far as "divination" (whatever the hell that is) being around for years: it doesn't matter. Slavery was around for centuries and it was still wrong. Women not voting was "around for years". Just because something is old doesn't mean it has credibility. So what's your point, again? So far, all you have given is speculation and fake supernatural garbage. Come up with some hard evidence and then maybe I'll take you seriously. Until then you're just another nut job trying to make a name for themselves by using Lisa.

I did not ask you to take me seriously, and I do not care if you do or not. As for divination, why don't you look that up! Look up marriage while you are at it. A "paper only" marriage is a marriage, dumdum. Is she still getting benefits beacuse of that marriage? Insurance through his insurance? It would not surprise me. Your comparison of divination to slavery or lack of womens' sufferage does not stand, since many, many things have been around for years. Times were, no one voted. Right, wrong.....it happened. If you do not believe in divination, then why on earth do you come to my blog? And it isn't your disagreement with me that makes you a troll, it is your expressed desire to get on MY site and start sending me rude and nasty comments that makes you a troll. If you have a connection to this case, why don't you encourage Debbie Bradley to cooperate with law enforcement? It isn't actually up to me to come up with hard evidence, as I am not the prosecuting attorney. I encourage discussion on this site; but I certainly do not expect any of my readers to think and behave the way Debbie Bradley does, and looking at her criminal record, it takes a very special, tough kind of police officer to do that. But I am free to do as many readings as I like, and answer as many questions from a divination standpoint as I like, and help others with readings if I choose. If you do not like the attention being given to this case, and were just hoping it would go away, that's too bad. Someone who wanted to see Lisa found asked me to do another reading, and I did. When children are lost, it has an effect on the entire community. We are sorry parenting did not work out for Debbie, but the rest of us would like to know what happened to Lisa.

You are totally impossible. You actually said "why doesn't Debbie cooperate" after I literally JUST told you that she did. Are you crazy? And you have no idea what is in her marriage. You don't even know that she was married in a church or not. It's a legal contract, "dumdum". I came to your blog because I have alerts set up to notify me whenever some a hole such as yourself makes a post about her. And yes, it IS actually up to you to come up with hard evidence if you're going to accuse someone of murdering their baby. How would you feel if I said you were a child molester with absolute certainty? Something tells me you wouldn't like it. When you make assertions, you need to have evidence. Speculation and what some "spirit" tells you don't count. Neither do your "feelings". I'm done. I'm not going to continue to argue with someone who doesn't have the mental capacity to fight back.

No one accused Miss Debbie of murdering her baby, now, did they? All I said was what the media said before me......she did not cooperate. And from all appearances, she did not. I do not have to fight back, why should I? I already have an opinion, and I am not going to change it for you. I also do not care where she was married, it is my feeling that she attmepted to use spousal privilege to avoid closer scrutiny and further questions from law enforcement. But do not tell me I said she killed anyone, because I didn't. Why would you have an alert set up for posts abuot Debbie Bradley, anyway? Does a post about her bother you?

No; I do not need to have evidence to do a reading about a case. Would you be as upset with me as you are if the cards pointed to Miss Debbie's possible innocence? Because before I did a reading, I thought the police were leaning on her too hard! Then I did a reading; then I also saw her criminal record, and heard a couple of interviews about her from people who have known her in the past. How come you don't want the baby found?

Juli I wonder if that troll thats posting ignorant stuff on your page is family to the Irwins or is mad because someone is still trying to help find baby lisa. Or maybe that person has somethig to hide and they are part of what happend to that poor innocent baby. I do not believe in tarot cards myself but every person to there own. I am not here to judge you atleast you are trying to help find baby lisa. God bless you

Thanks for updating this case Juli! Little Lisa has really touched my heart and for a long time I so hoped she was still alive. After following the case I really feel the parents covered up her death. Hopefully accidental death. The king of swords could be the private investigator Lisa's parents hired? You mentioned water being part of the picture, do you think she may have drowned? Bless little Lisa.

Where in the world did you hear that? She was sleeping until Jeremy came home. That statement you just made makes me think you're a lunatic. Stay away from the conspiracy/saddness-lovers websites. It would do you some good.

Wow, I guess you think you're smart because you know my IP? Good job revealing personal information like the scum bag that you are. What exactly do you expect to happen? Is someone supposed to find me and straighten me out? And what cell phone records exactly? Do you work at Verizon or at the police station? Very doubtful. "Divination" is not evidence, moron. And the only cell phone records that were released were the fact that someone tried to access the internet (which wasn't even active on that line) and that Meghan "Piece-of-garbage" Wright was called.

Juli, thank you for your reading. The family has been VERY active online, trying to silence everyone in this case, as well as threatening locals. Many,many Facebook pages about Lisa as well as other blogs have been " taken down" mysteriously. They will stop at nothing to silence people.

Wow! Very intense comments from someone trying to make you look bad Juli. Like you said, you do not name anyone as suspects in your readings- they are open to interpretation. I think it's very noble of you to even print comments such as these. Your site is here to offer insight into unsolved cases. If you are not a believer in tarot then I don't understand why you would even want to come on here. You are not the only tarot site to write about lisa. Interestingly the readings are along the same lines.

Thankyou for the compliment. You know, I am wondering if harassment and threats from the same source as the one posting above is the reason why Rasleen Raim's child is growing up without his mother.....her culture is different from Jeremy's, and his family descended on her in similar fahion to how this commenter descended on this blog, only in person and all the time! Some time in the near future, perhaps I will do a reading on that!

I love your blog Juli and I read it almost every night, this reading has clearly struck a nerve with "anonymous" tho, glad to see they could get some of that anger and venom off their chest, must be difficult keeping it all bottled in.

I know you recently did a reading on Madeleine McCann, but I was wondering if you could do an update since this guy Stephen Birch has recently surfaced with accusations that the child is burried on Robert Murat's property? Thank you xx

Thankyou for reading! Every now and then I run into trolls online, but I was a bit surprised to find one with this much rage posting here! Most of the people who follow this blog are NICE! Give me a couple of days, and I will update Madeleine McCann.

P.S. the Troll is awful quiet now lol she must if sobered up and realised how careless she's getting! It will all come out in the long run, time bombs like that won't get away with it for long before they lose it again.

That thought certainly crossed my mind! I think the parents were extreemly worried that they would lose both of Lisa's half brothers, and that Debbie would have to go wo work. Then, Debbie would have to limit her wine drinking to just one fourth of a box at a time, rather than almost a whole box!

The only card I got for that one was the Queen of Cups, so I am inclined to think that whatever, exactly, was done was done on purpose; perhaps not with an initial intent to harm, but it happened anyway, and the person responsible knew better. When I draw a court card for that kind of a question, it is telling me that a person actually bears responsibility, and that we are not talking about an accident. There's an energy behind this whole situation that is so completely different from "normal" or expected behaviors.....whoever this person is, she experienced a little regret at first, but now is completely convinced that she is not at fault in any way.

That IS a very distinct possiblitity here! Internet trolls notwithstanding!

The court card also gave me some insight into whether this was an accident.....a particular person was cited here. If it were a random accident, I think the Taort would have descibed it some other way.

Accidentally on purpose.. Could that mean putting her in a dangerous position that would cause a probable accident? Can you draw a card on the cause/type of death Juli that may be indicated in Lisa's situation? Thankyou.

I can only get as specific as the cards get. Because of the reversed wands cards,particularly the eight, six, and ten, that appear in past readings for this very question, I think I can make an educated guess that it was a violent, impulsive act that was heat-of-the-moment. Because of the swords cards, especially the ten, that follow or precede the wands in these readings, I am also of the opinion that whatever happened, happened quickly.

Hey deb oh I mean trollWhy were you drunk instead of watching three children?How come the cadaver dogs hit in YOUR bedroom?How come you wouldn't let LE go further in your bedroom?How come you didn't want to look in the backyard because you were afraid?How come the stolen cell phones pinged in your backyard for over four hours?How come you wouldn't let your sorry assed husband be interviewed by LE by himself?How come you wouldn't let the two boys be interviewed?Were you afraid of what your boyfriend and the two boys would say without you there?Why did you let ABC follow you and the two boys around when you went trick or treating? Was it for money?And your Dr Phil interview, what a joke? Listen here Debbie drunkA lot of things don't add upWhy aren't you looking for LisaYes I said her name LisaWhy did you throw your neighbors off your property while they were conducting a prayer vigil?Is it because you know where Lisa is?Out of sight out of mindThe two boys are going to remember and it's just a matter of time before they start talkingAmerica thinks YOU'RE GUILTYIt's not gonna be ling until you're arrestedYou said it yourself when you failed the lie detector testTick tock tick tockThey're gonna get you debOops I meant troll

Thanks. I really didn't think she'd reply . Thank you Juli for a great blog. I'm heartbroken that these children are missing. I'm angry that parents who murder their children think that we are stupid, and that they are going to get away with it. We need tougher laws for children that go missing and parents who do nothing about it. How about a reading for Isabel Celis. Thank you again for a great blog.