Re: Upcoming Cataclysm Dispel Mechanics

Strictly from a PvE standpoint, losing dispels as prot/ret saddens me. Most of the time healer's don't even bother with paying attention to different magic effects so I end up cleansing them myself, willingly I might add. It adds another aspect to the class.

While I see the reasoning for it, I think it's a bad move. It's one of those things that differs a great tank from a good tank.

Originally Posted by Rugz

Holes means you have less of a food to plate ratio, you can get more net weight of pancakes into the same volume and area as you could with waffles. Therefore pancakes win.

Re: Upcoming Cataclysm Dispel Mechanics

lol calm down everyone.

I will say though that I think with the way things look, druids will completely dominate face. The only interesting point I would make is whether or not they will allow a dispel mechanic to occur from a druid in tree form or only human. I think allowing it in only human would be interesting.

Secondly, they said that classes must TALENT into defensive dispel mechanics. So what I'm thinking is that it's probably NOT going to be at the very bottom of the holy or resto tree. So that probably means that other specs of paladins and shamans will most likely have access to that ability. Makes sense to me.

We'll get 76 points to decide on what to do with. I'm thinking that ret paladins and offensive shaman specs are going to be ok.

Re: Upcoming Cataclysm Dispel Mechanics

Dispel defensive magic could be around 21 Points in Paladin's Holy Tree, which would make it accessible for Retri Paladins in PvP.
Sounds like a fair decision, as you have to choose between a defensive role (Dispel Magic - Holy) and an offensive one (lower Stun CD).
Otherwise it would be a huge nerf to Ret PvP which would probably be equalized by giving us some sort of gap closer. The latter would be neat, too, but I actually prefer defensive utility.

Re: Upcoming Cataclysm Dispel Mechanics

Originally Posted by Alcotraz

[blizzquote="Zarhym;http://blue.mmo-champion.com/27/24038610691-upcoming-cataclysm-dispel-mechanics.html]In Cataclysm we are raising the mana costs, making it possible to waste mana by casting a dispel when there is nothing to dispel[/blizzquote"] When is the retardation ever going to end? They basically want healers to waste Dispels? Wonderful!

The idea is, You will get punished for just spamming dispel to get rid of everything. Basically punished for playing mindlessly.

Which is one of the main reasons why people don't like world of warcraft. Some people think it's completely mindless, so they are doing what they can to better reward people with actual reflexes (without causing the entire game to collapse onto itself).

Originally Posted by Kaoskadosk

Strictly from a PvE standpoint, losing dispels as prot/ret saddens me. Most of the time healer's don't even bother with paying attention to different magic effects so I end up cleansing them myself, willingly I might add. It adds another aspect to the class.

While I see the reasoning for it, I think it's a bad move. It's one of those things that differs a great tank from a good tank.

Yes, i am going to miss the ability to dispel magic effects (which i don't see enough of, even by people who don't do it), but i too understand the reasoning behind it.

Originally Posted by Respen

I was very disappointed in the screenshots. I usually base my entire gaming experience around ground textures and so far it seems like Cata will be totally unplayable.

Re: Upcoming Cataclysm Dispel Mechanics

Ok so Shamans who have benefited massively from being able to dispel tons of negative things with purge, while having a totem to help them and their team out with dispels, along with having BL and the ability to kite better than all other classes besides a druid are reall going to start to QQ.

Druids are going to get hit hard by this as well with multiple classes being able to stip hots off targets. I mean honestly how many of you play pvp and arena that much. This is just redefining roles and trying to push players to adapt. In all honesty people need to chill and see what happens before freaking out to a blue post.

Re: Upcoming Cataclysm Dispel Mechanics

Is it just me or are some people missing the fact that it clearly states 'dispel defensive magic' for all classes and 'dispel offensive magic' for just some.

Druids wont be removing warlock DoTs from themselves or their team mates (CoA excepted, cause its a curse) cause those are Offensive magics... and we cant do that. I read this change as a 'we want to have the bosses buff themselves, and make the healers remove them... to give 'em something else ta do yanno'