I know Takeda S. was trained by noteable sword teachers - not the point I was trying to make. He was not particularily famous for his sword skills or for using it in any "swashbuckling"way. Same with Ueshiba M. and Saito S.

My impression was, as I said, that Takeda was quite well known as a swordsman before he started propogating Daito-ryu.

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Peter Rehse wrote:

You mention two schools that Takeda S. was connected with - what about Yagyu Shinkage-ryu. What is his connection there?

Nobody knows, but there is quite a bit of Takeda's life that is undocumented, and the Ueshiba family has the menkyo from Takeda in their possession.