Honestly, I am not pissed. I just don't know what to feel. Hollywood keeps churning out these live action anime properties and I like a damn fool just go ahead and collect them to see how they turn out. I even want to see the upcoming adaptation for Kite that's coming up even though they seem to have replaced the original's sex controversy with drugs since apparently Samuel L. Jackson forcing himself down on a "teenage" girl isn't good marketing.

Gus Hanson wrote:Honestly, I am not pissed. I just don't know what to feel. Hollywood keeps churning out these live action anime properties and I like a damn fool just go ahead and collect them to see how they turn out. I even want to see the upcoming adaptation for Kite that's coming up even though they seem to have replaced the original's sex controversy with drugs since apparently Samuel L. Jackson forcing himself down on a "teenage" girl isn't good marketing.

Wait what? How is kite getting adapted, that wasn't even that popular...I mean honestly it's a goofy b-movie-ish type anime, what the fuck?

Goddammit Hollywood, stop this shit. One of the reasons I like anime is because not every fucking idiot I know likes it, which allows me to feel like a special snowflake. Stop adapting movies for the SWAGing and YOLOing crowd of today, it makes me feel less superior when other people enjoy things I enjoy.Seriously though, why even bother adapting it? You'll immediately alienate the only people that might be interested in seeing it, which happen to be super critical weeaboos, this means half of them probably won't see it because it's being adapted by Hollywood. Hollywood doesn't give a fuck about following the manga any closer than the film did, because that would mean they actually like the movie, and if that was true they wouldn't be trying to adapt it. Good thing it's doomed to never come out.

Rupert Sanders (of Snow White and the Huntsman fame) is to direct Hollywood's

Jesus, I didn't even see this at first. Now I know what demographic they're going for.

I watched Snow White and the Huntsman. It's one of maybe five movies I've ever seen that I can find no redeeming qualities in and actually lost track of what was going on two-thirds of the way through. I can find complex intricacies of symbol and meaning in almost anything but that movie was like a psychic void that swallowed my thoughts for two hours. The only movie I can remember doing that lately is the first Hobbit.

the prophecy is trueThe wish for respectability, observed spiritual teacher Jiddu Krishnamurti, is the greatest deterrent to selfhood and progress.

We'll see how long this Sanders dude stays attached to the project. All of these live-action films based on anime or other fringe "nerd" properties (i.e. anything that isn't a DC or Marvel Comics franchise) always seem to have protracted and chaotic development cycles, with tons of different staff turnovers culminating in either a cancellation of the entire project or a complete mess begrudgingly tossed out by the studios in hopes of at least partially recouping their losses and pretty much already dead on arrival. When a B-list director known for some mediocre-but-profitable summer blockbuster is attached even at the early stages of production, that's usually a death chime.

So yeah, I'm not optimistic that this will even come to fruition, let alone be any good. We can start worrying about whether it's good or not once there's evidence that it'll actually happen.

"I am shocked, SHOCKED, that a regular on an Evangelion forum would be a self-hating mess." - Tarnsman, paraphrased

"Jesus Christ, why are we even still talking about this shit?" - The Eva Monkey, summing up Evageeks in a sentence

Chuckman wrote:I watched Snow White and the Huntsman. It's one of maybe five movies I've ever seen that I can find no redeeming qualities in and actually lost track of what was going on two-thirds of the way through.

The gods have mercy; if Chuckman is saying this then this Sanders guy doesn't have a hope in hell.

Blue Monday wrote:The gods have mercy; if Chuckman is saying this then this Sanders guy doesn't have a hope in hell.

See, I also wasted time watching Snow White and the Huntsman, and I couldn't even enjoy it on a meta level. Not even knowing that Sanders directed Kristen Stewart by getting into her pants made it entertaining to watch.

A couple of years ago, I ventured to a friend of mine the idea that the best Hollywood choices for a GitS movie would be Chris Nolan or (preferably) Michael Mann. I may or may not have had any idea what I was talking about. Now I'd add [s]Shinya Tsukamoto[/s]* and maaayyyyybbeee David Cronenberg, due to their thematic concerns and their ability to make technology genuinely uncanny, which would be perfect if an adaptation went the slow-burn route of the Oshii films, whereas I'd peg the former two for an SAC adaptation, but absolutely not vice-versa. That would be a disaster. (As for an adaptation of Shirow's manga, blech.)

But all that shit aside - seriously, Hollywood, if you can find a competent director for Godzilla, you can find one for a trans-pacific franchise that actually has at least a small amount of critical respect, right?

......Right?

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*I still may or may not know what I am talking about. I am not legally responsible for whatever you do with what I have just said. Especially you.

*scratch that, now that I think about what that would be like that would be a terrible idea. Maybe Neil Blomkamp?

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Chuckman wrote:I watched Snow White and the Huntsman. It's one of maybe five movies I've ever seen that I can find no redeeming qualities in and actually lost track of what was going on two-thirds of the way through. I can find complex intricacies of symbol and meaning in almost anything but that movie was like a psychic void that swallowed my thoughts for two hours. The only movie I can remember doing that lately is the first Hobbit.

Chuckman wrote:I wouldn't want Nolan to do it because Nolan can't make a superhero(ish) movie without filling it with barely hidden subtext making fun of the character and making fun of the audience for enjoying it.

To be blunt, I think you're confusing "making fun of the character and the audience" with "not my preferred interpretation of that character."

Hhhmm.....I actually wouldn't mind seeing it live action. It's an easier movie to adapt then that fuck up they called dragonball. It'll be interesting to see who they pick for the characters.......and that's if they actually make it.

Snow White wasn't that bad. The ending sucked but I enjoyed the movie. Chalize Theron was awesome.

Maybe if you shut up and stop over analyzing everything you just might get it........

chee wrote:To be blunt, I think you're confusing "making fun of the character and the audience" with "not my preferred interpretation of that character."

The thesis of Nolan's Batman films is that Batman is a sick person and fascination with Batman is a sickness.

Or rather, the second and third. The first one is in earnest. The latter two less so, particularly the third, which is both insulting and clearly a pure labor on Nolan's part to ensure funding for future art projects of his own.

If you look closely at them you'll realize that the sequels are almost entirely based on the 1960s television series.

Burton's Batman films are actually superior, as they're able to convey contempt for the concept of Batman without being contemptuous of the audience. In Burton's films the audience is in on the joke; in TDK and particularly TDKR the sly subtext is "this is the campy Adam West show in film form and you, the audience, are too lame to realize how clever I am".

the prophecy is trueThe wish for respectability, observed spiritual teacher Jiddu Krishnamurti, is the greatest deterrent to selfhood and progress.

I honestly don't see how Nolan is doing anything radically different from Burton or even Paul Dini's work in the cartoon or the Arkham games. If anything, he just takes his take on "Batman-as-sickness" theme to its logical conclusion given the confines of the world he's set up. While I agree that TDKR was pretty clearly Nolan having more "fun" (I hate using that word to refer to camp, it makes me feel like a /co/tard) than in TDK, again, if there is any audience-indicating subtext on the level of "you are a moron for liking this", I honestly don't see it, even from an anarchic "death of the author" standpoint (even though such an interpretation hinges on authorial intent) - I just don't see the structure. Nolan's not Haneke. Agree to disagree I guess.

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