Re: Uinvest...again...Scam or not?

UInvest story is really widely discussed all over the internet and you will find the conclusions split amongst the doubters (or call them realistic) and the supporters ( or optimists),
so basically its all up to the sole investor (player, gambler ?) to decide whether he wants to risk his money on this site (or any other investment actually).
What we do know ( I myself do participate in uinvest as an investor for quite some time now) -
A) They are online as of early 2010 and no non-paying evidence as of then . You can look for yourself of course, but they haven't missed a single payment yet.
B) Currently they are widening their operations to what is called Global Uinvest Network (GUN) - these are local business owners worldwide whose job is to be Uinvest agents and to bring in investment opportunities. You can probably meet some of those in your country as well. This turns the whole thing into something a little bit more tangible
C) Some future plans - big conference in the US, iPhone app, more projects worldwide and etc.

Now, does all of the above mean its a safe place to risk a lot of money? probably not. Some of the doubts that people mention do have a point ( Projects in Ukraine could not be confirmed, funding system is somewhat fishy and more). On the other hand, most people just want to see their money grow, no matter how. How else could you explain their enormous popularity - tens of thousands of users, great Alexa rank and more.

Re: Uinvest...again...Scam or not?

Uinvest is scam.My all posts were deleted all together instead of replying.

1. These people have Fake address. It is virtual address which can be obtained on contract.Your calls will be attended, your live discussion will be responded, your
mails will be replied. Even if you visit them, they will meet you as Uinvest Team.
Just google the address and you will find the truth.

2. These people does not allow direct credit card transaction because when they runaway after sometime, you cannot sue them in court. People are not transacting
money directly in their account thus they are safe.

Try to understand :
Investor/you transfer money to financial partners account on PAYZA,SKRILL,PREFECTMONEYor Liberty Reserve thus these people are not directly involving in any transaction through bank wire, direct credit/debit card thus their hands are clean. Whereas, all of investors have no proof in their bank statements that they have invested money in Uinest. Regarding, LR : Anyone can open /close E-currency account and disappear. Simple!!!

3. These people have restricted Uinvest in their country! Red flag raised!

4. Uinvest has no address of any business.WOW! have you seen any stock in stock market which you cannot locate!!! If Uinvest have agreement with businesses then they should not worry about disclosing addresses of all businesses.

5.My same posts were deleted from their forum 2 times. Uinvest will run away. they are just looking for the right time to run with handsome money!!!!

Re: Uinvest...again...Scam or not?

1. Uinvest is not fully in the USA as of yet. Alot of companies who are looking for a US presence get this type of office. Geeezz even I have this type of office for my Company.

2. As for the Financial Partners that is true however from what I understand Uinvest will soon have a new payment system that will be directly tied into Uinvest. I believe they are now able to do this due to the Brokerage they had recently bought. At least according to their newsletters.

3. Not sure about that one. I know of a person who is from the Ukraine and has an account Uinvest. Actually he is an Agent. Plus why would they Advertise themselves in Ukraine if no one could have an account? https://uinvest.com.ua/uinvest-free-coffee

4. Actually you get an address of the Business when you get your Certificate. I will have to check mine again to confirm. Also some of the GUN projects that have been listed there have had people visit them and have reported back... Should check into that ;). Plus you could talk to any of the Agents that actually brought these businesses online.

5. You could be right although that is pretty bold statement to make for a company that looks to be taking themselves Public!

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Originally Posted by greenman

Uinvest is scam.My all posts were deleted all together instead of replying.

1. These people have Fake address. It is virtual address which can be obtained on contract.Your calls will be attended, your live discussion will be responded, your
mails will be replied. Even if you visit them, they will meet you as Uinvest Team.
Just google the address and you will find the truth.

2. These people does not allow direct credit card transaction because when they runaway after sometime, you cannot sue them in court. People are not transacting
money directly in their account thus they are safe.

Try to understand :
Investor/you transfer money to financial partners account on PAYZA,SKRILL,PREFECTMONEYor Liberty Reserve thus these people are not directly involving in any transaction through bank wire, direct credit/debit card thus their hands are clean. Whereas, all of investors have no proof in their bank statements that they have invested money in Uinest. Regarding, LR : Anyone can open /close E-currency account and disappear. Simple!!!

3. These people have restricted Uinvest in their country! Red flag raised!

4. Uinvest has no address of any business.WOW! have you seen any stock in stock market which you cannot locate!!! If Uinvest have agreement with businesses then they should not worry about disclosing addresses of all businesses.

5.My same posts were deleted from their forum 2 times. Uinvest will run away. they are just looking for the right time to run with handsome money!!!!

Re: Uinvest...again...Scam or not?

Originally Posted by Uinvestor

UInvest story is really widely discussed all over the internet and you will find the conclusions split amongst the doubters (or call them realistic) and the supporters ( or optimists),
so basically its all up to the sole investor (player, gambler ?) to decide whether he wants to risk his money on this site (or any other investment actually). What we do know ( I myself do participate in uinvest as an investor for quite some time now) -
A) They are online as of early 2010 and no non-paying evidence as of then . You can look for yourself of course, but they haven't missed a single payment yet.
B) Currently they are widening their operations to what is called Global Uinvest Network (GUN) - these are local business owners worldwide whose job is to be Uinvest agents and to bring in investment opportunities. You can probably meet some of those in your country as well. This turns the whole thing into something a little bit more tangible
C) Some future plans - big conference in the US, iPhone app, more projects worldwide and etc.

Now, does all of the above mean its a safe place to risk a lot of money? probably not. Some of the doubts that people mention do have a point ( Projects in Ukraine could not be confirmed, funding system is somewhat fishy and more). On the other hand, most people just want to see their money grow, no matter how. How else could you explain their enormous popularity - tens of thousands of users, great Alexa rank and more.

Bottom line - the risk is there (big time) and so is the gain.

Very nice presentation...at least people would be risking their money while their eyes are not closed. Thanks for this. Ultimately, the decision has to come from the one who own the money. :)

Re: Uinvest...again...Scam or not?

Found a blog with some 'believers' and some nonbelievers on it, you might want to read some.
As far as I’m updated, Uinvest announced they cut the links with all HYIP resources during the summer of 2012. That’s because they got hacked and also mainly because of obvious black-mailing by Uinvest haters on forums. Since you, me and our community as a whole have developed a unique relation with Uinvest, I believe a letter addressed specifically to The Private HYIP Blog would have been more appropriate. On which other independent platform could you get your questions answered by a Uinvest representative ( Dave Darrel ) ? The first edition was really a great experience, and was published on March 19th 2011 ! Here it is :

Like I told you in my last post, I finally risked 3,000$ more in Uinvest last week by buying two of the newest shares ( Auto Manufacturer ) . I’ll post and update if you want to know when I’ll decide to sell those shares for a profit.

By the way, have you visited our forum recently ? The team is really building something awesome for us in there!

Blackmailing is a fact – I personally have this case documented because it was submitted to police. I have those emails, with all headers and IP addresses, therefore, we don’t suspect people, we have facts of committing a crime.

The same with websites that commit various crimes – we will be gathering information about suspicious activity we notice and we are sure it’s normal for all honest people who want this world to be better.

Therefore, Nik, uinvest army is nothing but a community of honest people, uinvestors, who don’t want to sponsor criminals. And we welcome everyone to join us.

Reply

Nik says:

June 11, 2012 at 3:49 pm

Dave, Do you know the meaning of “Blackmailing”? Perhaps i do belive you might have some stupid ones demanding money of you.
I only heard of accusation of blackmailing on your part and never saw anyone demanding anything for criticizing.

I was accused of blackmailing by alot of your investors when i was sceptical
and i have reasons to belive that management of uinvest was a driving force behind those attacks on me.

If you scream “blackmail” what exactly they asked of you ?

Don get me wrong , You and I both know that whats your company doing (assuming its not just ponzi forefront) is illegal in Ukraine as well as in US (taking into account passed US JOBS act on which you hope to legalize your business). I’ll look forward talking to police, but you want to be under radar, dont you?

Re: Uinvest...again...Scam or not?

I agree that UInvest is not like the majority of HYIP. They offer a different investment program from other HYIP in general. Uinvest enables investors to find, buy or sell, and manage a potentially profitable enterprise. Also they using unique script, unique hosting provider, unique payment system, etc. This program really amazed me. Now the question is: Is UInvest a real company or just a usual HYIP that can be scam with preparations and outstanding expertise?

UICC 2013:
For UICC 2013, we have managed to negotiate a special rate with the Crowne Plaza Hotel in Beverly Hills - the venue of choice of the conference.

The hotel is centrally located to dining, shopping, the UInvest office, and other attractions in Beverly Hills.

The rate is $185/night+tax. Now, this is pretty nifty considering an average hotel rate in Beverly Hills being $250/night+tax!
To make a reservation, click the link below, check your dates, and find the hotel number on the reservations page.

To get a special rate, mention that you are attending the UInvest conference:

However, for some attendees, who would like to stick to a tighter budget, Expedia.com would be a great resource for alternative hotels in oraround Beverly Hills. Among others, the Crescent Hotel (The Crescent Hotel est. 1927- Beverly Hills, California) might be a great choice with the rate of $174/night +tax located within a 15-20 minute walk from Crowne Plaza Beverly Hills and a 5-10 minutes walk from the UInvest office.

Re: Uinvest...again...Scam or not?

Now for the GUN story, which might prove to be another thread - up to admin.

THE GUN STORY

February 01, 2013

Since its launch in December of 2011, the GUN (Global Uinvest Network) Project has become one of the most successful UInvest initiatives. On 12/12/12 Uinvest celebrated its 1st anniversary. To shed more light on details of this project, we decided to dedicate an article that describes the GUN's story.

The Idea

The idea of creation of Global UInvest Network (GUN) came to us in the middle of 2011 as a natural response to the requests of those uinvestors, who wanted to become more active in the business referral process. At that time, we were building an expansion strategy for opening multiple UInvest offices around the world with prospects of hiring local staff and creating infrastructure in major countries on each continent. It seemed like a lot of work, the fruits of which, however, would have to be paid off in the near future. And the UInvest team had all the intentions to stick to the plan. However, as a result of multiple uinvestors' inquiries, we decided to make it even better. “Why not to involve the uinvestors who are already active in the investment process, who know the world of finance from their own experience, who have their own businesses and, therefore, are proven entrepreneurs, and, what is most important, who believe in UInvest and in what we do? This situation will create a win-win for everyone: we will save money on infrastructure and the interested uinvestors will become our GUN agents and ambassadors of Uinvest around the world.”

That’s how an ethereal idea surfaced into the physical space. We tested it for a few months by making sure that all legalities would be met and GUN agents would be able to meet our requirements to become a part of the Global UInvest Network (1).

Uinvest company is not an High Yield Investment Program. Uinvest company is not registered in the United States of America, but they do have a representative there who can meet you in the office and provide the documents and information that you may need upon request.

I recommend that you visit the Forum at Uinvest company's website. You will be able to find helpful and important information about Uinvest company.

They do have an physical office in the 9595 Wilshire building which is located in the heart of Beverly Hills.

Their new address in the United States of America:
Beverly Hills, CA 90212 USA
Suite 900, 9595 Wilshire Boulevard
USA (toll free) +1-888-5817883

Re: Uinvest...again...Scam or not?

Now for the GUN story, which might prove to be another thread - up to admin.

No , GUN is still them, just another scheme.
They also offer shares of (so formed) GUN company on their site. If you buy one you will have a GUN Co-Owner title.

GUN agents (qualified investors) are looking for local businesses who need loans, when they find one they pass it to Uinvest for finders fee.
The rest is mystery even to GUN agent, Business signs non-disclosure agreement and shares of Uinvest stock with stated monthly dividend sold to uinvestors with a little notion of business (name as it shown on UI site) but for some reason in the "date" field.

It also said that Business maintains a security deposit at uinvest , purpose, size and form of which is also confidential. The stated reason is if Business unable to pay back on its loan, uinvestors dividends will be taken from there.

There are several fraudulent schemes which can be exploited by this setup, we can only wonder which.
Business owners are forbidden to discuss with investors and GUN agents how much money they got from uinvest and on what terms and size of security deposit.

Re: Uinvest...again...Scam or not?

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Want to bet it's a "physical" address ??

LRM, There is actual office, suite 900 is reception for entire floor,
There is a representative of Uinvest Inc. - Natalie Chase who runs her own company from the same location as well (RED Talent Agency)
i can confirm several people made appointments and met her there.

Re: Uinvest...again...Scam or not?

Originally Posted by scratchycat

....
Hi Graceonme,

Uinvest company is not an High Yield Investment Program. Uinvest company is not registered in the United States of America, but they do have a representative there who can meet you in the office and provide the documents and information that you may need upon request.

This is either outdated or not correct
Uinvest Inc. is incorporated in state of California
under # 3385516 by Lewis Fein
and applied for EIN 45-2545679

I could not find any other director except Lewis Fein within US agencies, so claimed Director Vitaliy Danilenko (direcor of ukranian counterpart)
in their SOI perhaps never made it to filingsus_soi.jpg

Re: Uinvest...again...Scam or not?

Originally Posted by NikSam

This is either outdated or not correct
Uinvest Inc. is incorporated in state of California
under # 3385516 by Lewis Fein
and applied for EIN 45-2545679

I could not find any other director except Lewis Fein within US agencies, so claimed Director Vitaliy Danilenko (direcor of ukranian counterpart)
in their SOI perhaps never made it to filingsus_soi.jpg

This is what almost every visitor of their site sees if he happened to be coming from Ukraine or Russia's IP addresses.
2 years ago visitors of those countries coming to UI site were just quietly redirected to webcam-list.com
They deny that they block entire countries, ask russian and ukrnanian uinvestors
, they tell them "Use proxy, VPN, or obtain a static IP and contact support to whitelist it"

Here is what one of the managers said is the reason for countries (or as they call troblemakers) ban

We block IP ranges to prevent hack, scam, ddos etc. Ukrainian, Kirgizian, Moldovian, Russian, Pakistanian, Vietnamese uinvestors may experience problems with accessing website because these countries are used by scam artists and hackers to perform their dangerous operations.

They are trying to be low profile in the motherland, thats the only logical explanation i see here.
Who knows some local might come and recognize his or his neighbor's business picture shares of which for some reason are sold online.
Also ask an average ukranian cop to take a look at the site, and try to explain him that to see the site in its whole beauty he needs to use a foreign proxy.

This is GOLD : Ukrainian ...... because these countries are used by scam artists