My only advise... and it comes from extensive experience with a personal family tragedy... is to leave the police, courts, and lawyers out of the picture. Once you go down that road, you will probably ruin any chance of having peaceful relationships with your family forever.

I would suggest you try to work it out a peaceful compromise, instead of trying to force their responsibility or punishment.

Life is hopefully a long-running affair for you... and the personal price you may choose to pay for a truck body, may cost you things that will become much more precious to you as life goes on.

So let me understand this you want to have a guy kicked out of his one chance in life to get ahead, and he is a wack job that would shoot you just for asking him to pay up. If this was not a computer and I was your friend I would smack you! Let it go you or your family does not need any of this. PUT IT BEHIND YOU MOVE ON LICK YOUR WOUNDS I dont know what else to say. Who needs that crap in their life . Like the moderator said get your truck legally and make this problem go away!

I did try it when he first stole my tools and was very human and understanding.

I tried I really tried I gave him time months to return my stuff on his

own,without interference from anyone. Instead all I got in return was threats

that he was going to run over my truck with his tractor for stealing my tools.
(yes that is exactly what I wrote)

I told him dad said I could keep my stuff their with his permission,my brother said to get it of HIS PROPERTY,I told him you dont own it dad does,I could never really drive the point that he didnt own the place,very weird.

I let time be on my side and thats when I took the photos of my tools in his box then I removed what I could find and took them home.

Then I stopped speaking to him for about a year but at night I would drive up and look in on my truck ,which I had permission to have there from my

Dad,and on a night in October I took photos about 16 with my digital Kodak

and kept them.No one ever called me or sent me a letter saying remove your property.the officer ask me about that.

That would be Dads place for hes the one that owns the farm, my brother lives there rent free about 15 years now ,but Dad pays the mortgage.

The place looks like a garbage dump now it recently has gotten alot worse

a mound of beer bottles and cans sits in front of the barn,easily 10 garbage

bags full.no joke

I know this hard to believe but im just telling the way I tried to stay away from a bad situation,after all I had permission.

Now Im afraid all my 440 stuff will be gone and my transmissions,if not all ready.

You guys are hot rodders and artists with your cars you understand what it means to have something to build that you really love.

No one around me understands this except my little man and hes 10 but he gets it.

So let me understand this you want to have a guy kicked out of his one chance in life to get ahead, and he is a wack job that would shoot you just for asking him to pay up. If this was not a computer and I was your friend I would smack you! Let it go you or your family does not need any of this. PUT IT BEHIND YOU MOVE ON LICK YOUR WOUNDS I dont know what else to say. Who needs that crap in their life . Like the moderator said get your truck legally and make this problem go away!

I didnt pull the trigger I didnt aggravate the situation I had no control over who did what.

My brother gave up his friend for the crime and pinned it on him,not me.

The officer doesnt think any of what he said was true anyway,several vehicles on the property had plates that he was running to see who they belonged to

I would be man enough to own up to my crimes i wouldnt cower in a corner

and put it of on some one else foot steps.

You have no idea how hard it was not to go up and relieve my anger ,but I didnt.If I did I know I would be in jail right now.
But I didnt.
Im going to let the courts handle this disgusting matter.

Thank you for telling us this story; i think the main thing is to stay positive and it appears that you are. Good for you. i don't really come from a similar background, but i do occasionally-to-frequently cross paths with psychopaths/sociopaths, so i'm not immune to H.S. either; i'm a sociopath magnet (apparently).

DEFINITIONS: H= horse.

i'm not clear on who originally took your tools?

Also in the case of the truck, i'm thinking this may boil down to your brother and friend----they will have to work it out to give you proper resolution. Is he(friend) really guilty? Let me explain.

For example, i once bought a car from a friend. The car didn't run so i asked if i could leave it in his garage and work on it---i wanted to put a 400 chevy small block in it. So i proceed to take the front end apart.

There is one small problem---the title was not in his name, it was in his mother's name. And my friend agreed to take payments on the car. Well, my friend's mother discovered the "experiment" and was FURIOUS. She actually called me at work and said, " YOU WILL PUT THE CAR BACK TOGETHER EXACTLY AS YOU FOUND IT." She also said a lot of other things that i don't exactly remember(or wish to print here) but they weren't very nice.

So i get the car back together and lose interest due to the bad taste in my mouth. They ended up having the car towed away for less than what i agreed to pay for it. i think $100 vs. my $400.

Would i have been legally on the hook for anything in this particular case? i don't know, but at the very least i probably would have had to put it back together legally.

The point is, is the friend ultimately responsible for damages? They see an "abandoned" or at least non-running truck on the property and your brother "says" oh it's just a junker, we can use it for target practice or something to that effect. So, in effect, your brother "gave" the friend permission to shoot it.

Now, SOMEONE IS responsible for damages i'm just not sure who--ultimately.

If the truck is in your name then i would immediately remove it and anything else you have there.

Well i say you have great control over yourself, if i was you i woulda ran to him and fought for life and death.. Its really about being the bigger man though.

Id like to keep my negative .02 out of it but its really hard to, but i really know what your going through. Hes a bully, and violence will never solve anything. Prison, jail time, he will just come out meaner. But i believe he belongs there, nobody should get away with that. Not even family, you mess up, you pay up with losing something, Like drunk drivers loose there privaledge to drive. He disrespected you dearly it. Thats how respect goes. Treat others like you wanna be treated.
He wants to be a bully, you put him in his place. Jail

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