There was another political party which abused God and didn’t want Jews on their platform either [Reader Post]

Sensing the political firestorm coming, democrats scrambled to insert God and Jerusalem back into their platform, having intially rejecting them.

CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) — Needled by Mitt Romney and other Republicans, Democrats hurriedly rewrote their convention platform Wednesday to add a mention of God and declare Jerusalem the capital of Israel after President Barack Obama intervened to order the changes.

The embarrassing reversal was compounded by chaos and uncertainty on the convention floor, requiring three votes before a ruling that the amendments had been approved. Many in the audience booed the decision.

The episode exposed tensions on Israel within the party, put Democrats on the defensive and created a public relations spectacle as Obama arrived in the convention city to claim his party’s nomination for a second term.

The language in the party platform — a political document — does not affect actual U.S. policy toward Israel. The administration has long said that determining Jerusalem’s status is an issue that should be decided in peace talks by Israelis and Palestinians.

Obama intervened directly to get the language changed both on Jerusalem and to reinstate God in the platform, according to campaign officials who insisted on anonymity to describe behind-the-scenes party negotiations. They said Obama’s reaction to the omission of God from the platform was to wonder why it was removed in the first place.

Lederman and Pace may have Obama wondering why the language was removed in the first place, but Obama apparently did know about it and raised no objection.

Things got so bad that President Barack Obama was forced to personally intervene, ordering language mentioning God and naming Jerusalem as the rightful capital of Israel be added.

Obama had seen the language prior to the convention, a campaign source said, but did not seek to change it until after Republicans jumped on the omissions of God and Jerusalem late Wednesday. And even then, it had to be forced through a convention hall full of delegates who nearly shouted down the change.

This wasn’t done out of any belief system. democrats at the convention booed the change and they have made it clear that they want nothing to do with God or Israel.

Mitt Romney on Wednesday slammed the Democratic Party’s initial decision to remove from its platform a passage affirming Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, calling it just “one more example of Israel being thrown under the bus by the president.”

Romney — in an interview filmed before the Democrats restored both the word “God” and the passage about Jerusalem to the platform — told Fox News’s Carl Cameron that the omission of Jerusalem was a “very troubling development.”

“The president and his party have now changed their position. They now say that they’re not certain what the capital of Israel might be,” Romney said. “I find that one more example of Israel being thrown under the bus by the president. I think it’s a very sad day.”

Watch Dick Durbin melt down in denial.

America finally has the opportunity to see what the democrat party is all about and what they believe.

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165 Responses to “There was another political party which abused God and didn’t want Jews on their platform either [Reader Post]”

@retire05, a serious “cyber stutter” there, eh? LOL That can happen if you accidentally hit “post comment” twice. Did you see a screen come up, asking for you to input letters in a field to confirm the post? That’s usually one indication it happened.

INRE what happens… well, it’s sure not a procedure used often, and I’d guess that both Boehner and Reid would actually have to go to the manual. Congress has enacted 11 different declarations of war, relating to five different conflicts. Four of them were after the battles began. The CRS has a great overview from last year I had read with details.

Declarations of war in those instances were done by majority votes in both chambers. I doubt that it would be difficult to get 51 votes in the Senate to back up Israel, once Iran let loose with military power. As I said, the majority of members of both parties in Congress have been staunch Israeli supporters, including BeBe getting standing ovations from addressing joint sessions, and a much warmer reception that he received at the WH earlier this year.

And remember, even the DNC has a military option for Iran in their platform.

The President is committed to using all instruments of national power to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. When President Obama took office, Iran was ascendant in the region, and the international community was divided over how to address Iran’s nuclear violations. The President’s early offer of engagement with Iran—quickly rebuffed by the regime—allowed the United States to expose Iranian intransigence and rally the international community as never before. Working with our European allies and with Russia and China, the administration gained unprecedented agreement for the toughest ever UN sanctions against Iran, laying the foundation for additional national financial and energy sanctions imposed by the United States and other nations. As a result, Iran is now increasingly isolated and the regime faces crippling economic pressure—pressure that will only build over time.

President Obama believes that a diplomatic outcome remains the best and most enduring solution. At the same time, he has also made clear that the window for diplomacy will not remain open indefinitely and that all options—including military force—remain on the table. But we have an obligation to use the time and space that exists now to put increasing pressure on the Iranian regime to live up to its obligations and rejoin the community of nations, or face the consequences.

There are few places where the Parties agree, but Israel is one of them, as well as the threat of Iran.

Most of the requests for a formal declaration came from the CiC, but not all. But with a formal declaration also comes some automatic statutory authorities bestowed on the POTUS with that action… far too many to list or analyze here. But you’ll find it fascinating reading. If people worry about the powers Obama can assume just by declaring a national emergency, they won’t like reading about the expanded powers during a war declaration.

But I don’t think it would come down to that, retire. With news that Israel had taken out some of Iran’s nuke facilities, and was being carpet bombed by Iran in response, Obama can bank on being run out of town in Nov if he headed to the Rose Garden – only to announce that, despite having a few fleets of US Naval vessels in the area, we weren’t going to do a dang thing.

The Senate? Currently there’s 51 Dems, 47 GOP and 2 Indys. There’s 12 Senators that are Jewish Ten of them are Democrats, leaving Bernie Sanders and Lieberman – the Indy’s – as the other two. How many of them do you think are needed for the majority, and how many do you think would turn their backs on Israel? I’d guess it would be a slam dunk, myself.

Ditto

(1) Attack Iran before the elections and take the chance Iran will attack US bases. Which, if it happens, gives a very tepid (even disrespectful,) towards Israel Obama a chance to prove himself Commander in Chief and get a possible election boost.

(2) Keep the Iran-Israel saber rattling going let Iran continue their Jew-hating destroy Israel rhetoric, and let Obama just say “now play nice you two” while Romney talks tough about Iran. Which makes a more pro-Israel Romney more palatable to US Jewish voters.

MOS 8541

Ever read the early poetic works by Marx?? No you have not. But let me leave you with Marx’s lengthy, unfinished poetic drama of this youthful period, Oulanem, A Tragedy. In the course of this drama his hero, Oulanem, delivers a remarkable soliloquy, pouring out sustained invective, a hatred of the world and of mankind, a hatred of creation and a threat and vision of total world destruction.

… I shall howl gigantic curses on mankind:
Ha! Eternity! She is an eternal grief …
Ourselves being clockwork, blindly mechanical,
Made to be the foul-calendars of Time and Space,
Having no purpose save to happen, to be ruined,
So that there shall be something to ruin …
If there is a something which devours,
I’ll leap within it, though I bring the world to ruins-
The world which bulks between me and the Abyss
I will smash to pieces with my enduring curses.
I’ll throw my arms around its harsh reality:
Embracing me, the world will dumbly pass away,
And then sink down to utter nothingness,
Perished, with no existence – that would be really living!
… the leaden world holds us fast,
And we are chained, shattered, empty, frightened,
Eternally chained to this marble block of Being …
and we –
We are the apes of a cold God.
Does this have a similar ring tone…enjoy

ilovebeeswarzone

MOS8541
YES IT DOESN’T HAVE AN UPLIFTING EFFECT ON WHO READ IT,
EXCEPT THE ONES WHO’S BRAIN IS ALTERED WITH THE SMOKE OF THOSE MANY DRUGS IN THE MARKET FOR ALL TO BUY ON THE STREETS SO TO GET INTO A TRANCE OF NO RETURN AS A SOUND HUMAN
WITH THE POSSESSION OF ALL HIS BRAIN CAPACITY WHICH WILL PLAY AN IMPORTANT FACTOR IF ONE DAY THEY GET PUSH INTO A TOTAL POWER POSITION TO LEAD BY DESTROYING THE REAL WORLD AND INFLUENCE THEIR MINDSET ON THE SHATTERED WORLD THEIR SHATTERED BRAIN PROJECTING
THEIR THOUGHTS ON THEIR REAL FALSE BELIEFS, LIKE WE ARE SEEING NOW THE RESIDUES
BYE

retire05

retire05

I would think option #2, but I am constantly amazed at the loyalties of the American Jew who consistantly seems to vote against their own interests. Remember, many of the Frankfort Marxists were Jewish, and many Russian Jews who migrated to the U.S. were Communists. Old habits seems hard broken. There is little in common between the American Jew and the Israel Jew when it comes to defending Israel.

I think Netanyahu is a brilliant man, and will guide his nation wisely. But he also understands that Israel is a small nation surrounded by those who would destroy it. I also think that the policy of “Never Again” resonates with the Israelis who would never be conquered unless every last man, woman and child had fought to the death.

Obama backed the rebels in Egypt, only to have Egypt taken over by the Muslim Brotherhood. Now, steathly, the Obama administration is backing the rebels in Syria, while the Guardian of the UK reports that the Syrian rebels are being taken over by Al Qaida members. Just as Obama was on the wrong side with Honduras, he seems to be on the wrong side of every problem in the Middle East. Remember what Obama wrote: “I will stand with them (Arab and Pakistani Americans) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” Obama was NOT specific that he mean a shift in the U.S., so due to his actions toward the Middle East and Israel, it seems safe to assume he meant that should Arab and Pakistani Americans object to the actions of Israel in its own defense, he will side with the Muslim contingency.

This is why Dinish D’Souza’s movie, 2016 is so important. Obama is an anti-colonialist, and just as he views the UK as an oppressor in Kenya, he views Israel as the oppressor in the Middle East, much as I think he views the U.S. an an oppressor globally instead of seeing the U.S. as a nation that has spilled its own blood for the freedom of others.

Richard Wheeler

Mata says “disagreeing turns up observations and accusations”— It should be clear to all that you are the most respected person on this site. You’re not afraid to call em as you see em and your research and attention to detail are 2nd to none. ALL can learn from you

Strong Honorable Mention to Wordsmith–when he talks people should listen.

ilovebeeswarzone

retire05
yes very well put in words that reach everyone who read your comment,
thank you, for a reminder that all this blood spilled
for the freedom of all AMERICANS, MUST NEVER BE TAKEN FOR GRANTED, IT MUST BE EARNED AT THE VOTING BOOTH

ilovebeeswarzone

Ditto
YES, I think that ISRAEL BY FORCE OF THEIR LOCATION SURROUNDED BY HATER GREED ENVIOUS LAZY THE KIND THAT EXCUSE THEIR FAILURE BY PUTTING THE BLAME ON OTHERS, WHO CONQUER A BIT OF LAND TO LIVE PEACEFULLY, MUST BE AT ALL TIME ALERT ON THEIR NEIGHBOR ALL OF THEM, EVEN THE ONE CLAIMING THEIR FRIENDSHIP
THEREFOR THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL USED THEIR BRAINS COLLECTIVELY TO RESEARCH IN
ALL FRONTS, AND YES ON THE FRONT WHERE THEY MUST KNOW HOW TO PROTECT THEIR OWN,
THIS COME FROM THE FAR BACK ANCESTRAL LEARNING, AND IN ALL THESE CENTURIES,
THEIR ENEMIES HAVE POPULATE THOSE BOUNDARIES AND EXPAND IN POPULATION BUT WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF LAND, NOW THEY ARE CLAIMING THE LAND OF ISRAEL TO CONTINUE THEIR BREEDING HUMANS, IN THE ONLY MINDSET OF CONQUERING THE WORLD, AND DESTROY THE OTHER, BUT BY AIMING SO HIGH, THEY HAVE TO EXTERMINATE THEIR STRONGEST OPPONENTS WHO KNOW THEM ALSO FROM CENTURIES OF LEARNING,
SO ISRAEL HAVE SKILL AND PROVISIONS TO EXTERMINATE ALL WHICH SURROUND
THEIR LAND, THEY HAVE THE INTELLIGENCE EXPERTISE TO KNOW THEM AND SEE THEIR NEXT MOVE BEFORE IT HAPPEN, BUT THE PROBLEM IS THE WORLD WHO ARE NOT ON THE SAME LINE OF KNOW THE ENEMIES AND THEY LISTEN TO THE WARNING FROM ISRAEL WITH DOUBTS EASY FOR US TO NOTICE BY THE ACTION OF THE WORLD ACTION,
THEY FORGET THAT THE ‘MULTI’ CHIEF OF THE MUSLIM COUNTRIES INCITED HITLER TO EXTERMINATE THE JEWS, HOW EASY THE WORLD FORGOT,IS IN IT?
SO THAT LEAVE ISRAEL WITH THE CONVICTION THAT THEY GET ONLY WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT BUT NO SUBSTANCE TO SUPPORT THEM IN THEIR DEFENSE ACTIVITY
IF OR WHEN THEY WILL SEE THE NEED TO ACT DESISIVLY, AT DEFENDING THEIR SMALL LAND
WHERE THEIR PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE THE DANGER PENDING OVER THEIR HEAD,
LIKE THE SWORD OF DAMOCLES,
SO THEY ISRAEL HAVE DEVELOP THEIR ULTIMATE UNDERGROUND DEFENSE POWER,
BE IT ALL IT NEED, INTEL OR WEAPONS OR ELSE,
AND THEY HAVE THE WISDOM TO SEE COMING THE DAY OF CALL IT ARMAGEDDON,
BECAUSE WE SEE IT OURSELVES COMING WITH THE CIRCLE OF ISLAM ADVANCING MENACING FOR THE WHOLE WORLD, WHO IS TOO BUSY TO PAY ATTENTION WHILE THEIR OWN CITIZENS ARE BEING INFECTED BY THE DISEASE CONTACTING THEM IN SCHOOLS ALL OVER IN PRISONS WHICH THEY WILL OPEN TO FREE THEIR STUDENT ONE DAY AS THEY FOREVER SEEK TO TAKE POWER ON THE
HIGHEST SEAT OF THE WHITE HOUSE, SURROUNDED BY THEIR FAITHFUL ROBOTS, THEY HAVE
TRAINED WITH REPEATED PROPAGANDA
TO OBEY ANY OF THEIR COMMAND.

Nan G

@retire05: I am constantly amazed at the loyalties of the American Jew who consistantly seems to vote against their own interests. Remember, many of the Frankfort Marxists were Jewish, and many Russian Jews who migrated to the U.S. were Communists. Old habits seems hard broken. There is little in common between the American Jew and the Israel Jew when it comes to defending Israel.

I can speak from personal experience about this.
My family were forced by circumstance to leave old Russia just at the communist revolution, then Germany with the rise of anti-Semitism there.
The USA was NOT their first choice at all, they preferred Europe, but it was untenable.
When they got here there were already a huge number of very leftist-leaning Jews filling the synagogs here in the USA.
They looked and looked for a temple where they felt welcome.
But, despite the fact that they lost everything they ever owned, these leftist Jews looked down on them as ”the enemy.”
When Israel was created they very much wanted to go there, but with a young and large family and now a farm and blacksmithing business they also felt comfortable in their community (not Jewish at all).
So we stayed and I grew up here.
That weird dichotomy between leftist, Israel-hating Jews goes back to before there WAS an Israel!
The other part of the dichotomy includes Israel-loving Jews, like my family, that find themselves almost forced into very orthodox Judism, if they go to worship at all.

Ditto

Sadly there doesn’t seem to be a side to support in Syria. Assad is a murdering maniac who is fighting Al Qaida for who will control (not lead) the people of Syria. My heart goes out to all the innocents who are being massacred in this uncivil war.

retire05

Nan, the odd thing is that Hasidic Jews are extremely conservative, and generally vote Republican.

Have you read David Horowitz’s Radical Son? His parent, immigrants, were total Communists. David, himself, was far left as they come until he experience what real violence was and how it was foisted by the left. I think you would find a lot to relate to in his book.

Redteam

@Ditto: yes, I think you’re right, there will be no winners in Syria, only losers. The whole fight is only for control of the masses and weapons. Israel may be the winner in this because it will be necessary to keep them strong to combat Syria, but this will only happen if HopeyChangey isn’t in office.

John Cooper

Aye– So you want to trivialize everything National Socialist Germany stood for by comparing that horrible regime to a mere clothing choice? …the Holocaust, WW II, everything? I thought the authors on this site were better than that, but maybe I should reevaluate my participation here (which would no doubt make you and Mata happy).

Redteam

@John Cooper:JW: ” I thought the authors on this site were better than that,” being a named author on this site is no guarantee of quality. I don’t want to defend anyone for comparing anyone to Hitler. But having said that, most of those comparisons have come from the far lefties and it shows their inclination to label everyone that is not in the tank with them as racists and radicals. I’ve seen several of them within the last 7 days labeling Repubs as Hitler. Obama is not calling them out on that. The Tea party is going to go a long way toward eliminating a lot of the far lefties from their public dole payroll positions.

Redteam

@Aye: I’ve re-read what DJ said and I fail to see where he is trivializing anything. He points out that the Dimocrats abused God and the Jews this week and that the Nazi’s did it back in the 30’s/40’s. That’s the truth, it’s not trivializing. Mentioning anything from History that is true, is not trivializing. Those that forget history are doomed to repeat it. Sounds much like what is happening with HopeyChangey and crowd this week.

It’s a historically accurate fact that Hitler wore pants and so does Obie.

Yet, JC thinks that I’m trivializing things by pointing that out.

Yep…Obie is just like Hitler. Well, except for the ovens. And the silly salute. And the ghettos. And the cattle cars. Oh..and the funny mustache. Other than that…it’s pretty much a dead on accurate and apt comparison.

ilovebeeswarzone

Ditto
hi, I just heard of a new book name ISRAEL THE WILL TO PREVAIL.
written by HUCKABEE guess just a minute ago his name is BANOM OR BANON, CHECK IT,
IT LOOK LIKE A GOOD BOOK TO READ
CHECK CHUCK NORIS COMING UPAT HUCKABEE NOW AFTER THE COMMERCIAL ON FOX

Greg

All last summer, every time I went to the local post office, there was a lady in a lawn chair beside a little cart with an umbrella, sitting just off federal property. She had a standing, six-foot tall billboard displaying a picture of the President of the United States with a Hitler mustache. Sometimes she shouted and waved fliers at passing cars. Other times she just sat there.

Initially this annoyed me. Once I realized that it seemed to be annoying a lot of people, I became more appreciative of her effort.

ilovebeeswarzone

FOR ALL A MOVIE TO SEE THE LAST OUNCE OF COURAGE APPROVE BY CHUCK NORIS
HE SAID EVERY AMERICAN MUST SEE THE MOVIE,
IT’S ABOUT FREEDOM
MARSHAL TEAGUE IS ACTING IN IT, COMING FRIDAY IN MANY THEATER IF YOUR A MILITARY SPECIALY YOU WILL LIKE IT

jc: but maybe I should reevaluate my participation here (which would no doubt make you and Mata happy).

*Again* you call me out? I believe I have already explained that I rarely participate in these types of threads unless I am requested, invited, or challenged to do so. Since you are in need of some fact checking, out of drj’s last 23 posts, I have commented (and not necessarily to him) on a total of four. Two of them were in agreement. Sorta blows your conceptions about me always criticizing everything he writes, doesn’t it? As I said, I go the extra mile to avoid entering waters inhabited by sharks in feeding frenzy mode.

You say you are not “my enemy”, even tho I never suggested you were. Yet once again you feel the need to attach some preconceived notions, and toss out an insult, evoking my name without reason to do so. Have I ever once stated, or even given the impression that I’d be happy to see dissenting voices gone? That you suggest I feel that way is truly insulting.

You may not be my enemy, but I’m sure not feeling any respect for allowing differing perspectives without personal sniping either. And I find it most revealing that you feel the need to evoke my name, unwarranted, when you are expressing yourself.

Last I looked, it was drj’s 1st Amendment right to speak his mind, and still mine to disagree… when I felt the subject was important enough to bother to do so, that is. A prime example of that was when he alluded the mere purchase of nylon vests or body armor should evoke federal investigations of gun owners on the Holmes thread. The only other of the two where I disagreed was when drj went after Harry’s dead father – a man who wasn’t a politician or in public service.

It’s also your right to disagree, JC. However why you need to personally demean those that are not in lockstep with yours is somewhat baffling.

The majority of the time, I let you all do what you want when you’re in your ODS frenzy feeding mode. I’m just not that interested is such low brow news, nor do I know how to pen articles for that mentality. So stop requesting my presence, quit referring to me with false accusations when I’m not around, and you’ll find little need to be irritated because I disagree. Kapisch?

RedTeam: I’ve re-read what DJ said and I fail to see where he is trivializing anything. He points out that the Dimocrats abused God and the Jews this week and that the Nazi’s did it back in the 30′s/40′s. That’s the truth, it’s not trivializing.

Again I need to point out context as to just what the foundation was for this “abuse”, and original Hitler’esque comparison.

The Middle East. President Obama and the Democratic Party maintain an unshakable commitment to Israel’s security. A strong and secure Israel is vital to the United States not simply because we share strategic interests, but also because we share common values. For this reason, despite budgetary constraints, the President has worked with Congress to increase security assistance to Israel every single year since taking office, providing nearly $10 billion in the past three years. The administration has also worked to ensure Israel’s qualitative military edge in the region. And we have deepened defense cooperation — including funding the Iron Dome system — to help Israel address its most pressing threats, including the growing danger posed by rockets and missiles emanating from the Gaza Strip, Lebanon, Syria, and Iran. The President’s consistent support for Israel’s right to defend itself and his steadfast opposition to any attempt to delegitimize Israel on the world stage are further evidence of our enduring commitment to Israel’s security.

It is precisely because of this commitment that President Obama and the Democratic Party seek peace between Israelis and Palestinians. A just and lasting Israeli-Palestinian accord, producing two states for two peoples, would contribute to regional stability and help sustain Israel’s identity as a Jewish and democratic state. At the same time, the President has made clear that there will be no lasting peace unless Israel’s security concerns are met. President Obama will continue to press Arab states to reach out to Israel. We will continue to support Israel’s peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan, which have been pillars of peace and stability in the region for many years. And even as the President and the Democratic Party continue to encourage all parties to be resolute in the pursuit of peace, we will insist that any Palestinian partner must recognize Israel’s right to exist, reject violence, and adhere to existing agreements.

What was missing from back in the good ol’ days when they weren’t considered Nazis?

This rises to the level of abuse, or warrants comparisons to a true mad man in history? Apparently, to some. I set my bar a tad higher than that.

What becomes even more embarrassing is that the Gloria Center – a right leaning organization who apparently is just as upset with the platform PR game, but not enough to draw parallels with Hitler/Nazi – is absolutely floored that the platform had the audacity to go from looking “supportive” to being “neutral” on these two issues.

Finally, past Democratic platforms have clearly taken Israel’s side, making it clear that they viewed Israel as the party sincerely trying to resolve the dispute and the other side as obstructing a solution. Despite some of its language, this platform is basically neutral. Yes, it highlights burdens on the Palestinians rather than on Israel, but it gives no hint as to why there has been no progress toward peace. This may be more understandable in a U.S. government document and Obama is in fact the president, but this is the party platform. Historically, the Democratic Party — pressed by members of Congress — wanted to show that it was on Israel’s side. Who better than Bill Clinton, even though he doesn’t tell the truth about it today, who saw in the 1990s how the Palestinian side sabotaged peace and the Arab states didn’t help?

Pretty flimsly stuff to get your knickers in a wad, don’t you think?

Actually, neutral is a better reflection of their candidate, who prefers to lead from behind as his policies have shown. That is what a Party Platform is all about, ya know…. the candidate’s talking points.

However a “neutral” policy cannot be translated as abuse, or support for the Palestinians, Iran, Hezbollah or Hamas. You can argue neutral and leading from behind is unwise leadership for the most powerful nation on Earth, and I wouldn’t disagree. But making that point by comparing both Obama and the Dems as a Party to Hitler and the Nazis is nothing but counterproductive hyperbole. Hang… I hate the guy’s policies and leadership, and this crap even turns me off to the alternative. Lately, I’ve been feeling the need to buy an island…

Ya know, I just can’t get all twisted up in the hate language that so many of you demonstrate with such ease. I’m utterly stymied you can generate this much indignation, hate and anger – just because the status of Jerusalem is left out, and two named terror groups aren’t called out by name in the DNC Platform – but you can’t muster up the brass ones to be as critical of the RNC, who did a far more heinous power grab right in front of our noses.

But apparently that’s a topic that’s best dealt with when eyes are tightly closed, and noses are held.