Here are the major exchanges about Lyerla from the lengthy podcast discussion:

"I would put him in the top-five percent of all-time – and my all-time is a fraction of your all-time in this gig – but of all-time character concerns. In the top-five percent," McShay said. "I mean, this guy scares me to death. He's a second-round pick talent-wise – top-40 maybe in terms of just natural talent... If he was an angel, if he was a workaholic and did everything right, it might be interesting to see between [projected first-round pick Eric] Ebron and Lyerla."

Kiper and McShay had an exchange about where he should be taken – and also a guess as to what franchise may take that risk:

"I don't know that you can touch him in the first four rounds, at least," McShay said.

"Would you draft him?" Kiper asked.

"No, I just wouldn't want to deal with it," McShay said. "But if you're asking me if the Patriots would... they might."

"Scouts nicknamed him 'ankle bracelet.' His nickname was ankle bracelet, because he'd go dark," McShay said. "He'd be gone for days. You had to put an ankle bracelet on him to be able to locate him. I mean, the guy... it's scary."