I had to try the new one
Frugal install.
On first boot the sound icon showed 100% volume so I ran alsamixer in
the terminal and after exiting did alsactl store,then rebooted to
create my save file.
After rebooting all the settings were back to zero except the volume
which was 100% again, reran alsamixer in the terminal and adjusted the
settings again,exited and did alsactl store.
On next rebooted the settings were good.

Hello Billtoo thanks for testing,
On first boot did it go straight to desktop or did you have run xorgwizard xwin or anything - i also notice your alsamizer has alot more options that mine with just Master and PCM and under the All option Master PCM Capture Digital Mux.

On the first boot when it is 100% does audio work or do you need to run alsamizer to get any sound to play - if audio does work what happens when you make a save file with out running alsamixer.

Stu90. I made new trial in reuploaded Ice Puppy-008. I used your /var/lib/alsa/asound.state, /etc/asound.state and plainly alsactl restore command to restore in /etc/init.d/alsafix. I used force command to spesify the asound.state location to be used.

I have alsa binaries in /sbin, so I had to remove /usr/sbin/alsabinaries path out. I have alsa 1.0.24 now in Ice Puppy-008.

If you have 10alsa and alsafix scripts, the 10alsa is executed first and alsafix after that. I think that my 10alsa does not work for me at all, but alsafix do the trick.

Hello Billtoo thanks for testing,
On first boot did it go straight to desktop or did you have run xorgwizard xwin or anything - i also notice your alsamizer has alot more options that mine with just Master and PCM and under the All option Master PCM Capture Digital Mux.

On the first boot when it is 100% does audio work or do you need to run alsamizer to get any sound to play - if audio does work what happens when you make a save file with out running alsamixer.

sorry for all the questions.

cheers.

hi stu90,

It went straight to the desktop, resolution good, wired network good,
I added the xorg_high driver in quickpet.
I needed to run alsamixer and set the levels to get sound.

With pemasu's newest icepuppy 08 I hear the two barks when I get to
the desktop for the first time, on my other hp desktop at least,
haven't tried his newest icepuppy on this one yet so I'd better try it
out now.

edit: now in newest icepuppy08
Pemasu's newest gives the two barks on first boot and the image shows
alsamixer settings as they are right off the bat.
Guess I don't really need all those other levels set.
The master sound level was at 55% on first boot, pcm and front were at
100%.

Hey stu90, pemasu and everyone else pursuing the advanced kernel. Here is what I am seeing concerning audio in v003.

On first boot, the alsamixer Full window looks like this. The crucial aspect is that Front is not turned up, so that volume is about half.

This is what Lucid 5.2.5 looks like:

Also on first boot, this is what alsamixer (press F6) looks like:

And here is what Lucid 5.2.5 looks like:

What this means is that Lupu Lite is 1) not turning up all of the appropriate volume controls, and 2) it is not detecting/configuring the second and higher audio cards.

I am not being critical, I am sure you know, I would like to see it work, for sure!

Here is a suggestion--just a suggestion. There are really only two people who know the gruesome details of the hardware detection and config. Barry is working on some stuff of his own and does not have time to be diverted. However rerwin is working on updating his modem-modprobe package and IMHO would be just the person to ask for help with this.

Here is the history. Lucid 5.2.5 is the last "non-zzz" Woof/Puppy. What that means is that Barry has now incorporated his own hardware detection/config scripts into Woof. They were originally called "zzz-scripts-simple-bk." Lucid 5.2.5 did not use these zzz-scripts. What Lucid 5.2.5 did use were the traditional scripts, which rerwin had a huge part in developing. Rerwin is still improving those scripts in the package modem-modprobe., as an upgrade for non-zzz Puppies.

1. rerwin would be the best candidate imho to figure out and correct easily and efficiently the "issues" with the alsa script.

2. rerwin might want to test his complete modem-modprobe script with EZ-Woof and the advanced kernel. That would be OK with me--if that develops then I will post some easy instructions about how to do it with EZ-Woof--it's no big deal at all.

About alsa sound level problems. Stu90 pm me and I searched the problem based on stu90 innovation.
The first part of the script does not work in Barry`s 10alsa script. 525 has alsa script which is quite the same from the innards. It has the same problem with these first code rows:
case "$1" in
start|restart)

Removing that part makes the sound level to be leveled as it should according to the script.
Now it would need that script wizard to tell why Barry`s first rows make the script non working.
So, the fixed script should be easy to create.
Playdayz alsa 1.0.24 packages has alsa binaries in different location, under /sbin which needs to remembered if people updates to it. /usr/sbin/alsactl for example does not work in scripts with newer alsa. just alsactl works fine of course.

Hey stu90, pemasu and everyone else pursuing the advanced kernel. Here is what I am seeing concerning audio in v003.

On first boot, the alsamixer Full window looks like this. The crucial aspect is that Front is not turned up, so that volume is about half.

Also on first boot, this is what alsamixer (press F6) looks like:

What this means is that Lupu Lite is 1) not turning up all of the appropriate volume controls, and 2) it is not detecting/configuring the second and higher audio cards.

I am not being critical, I am sure you know, I would like to see it work, for sure!

Here is a suggestion--just a suggestion. There are really only two people who know the gruesome details of the hardware detection and config. Barry is working on some stuff of his own and does not have time to be diverted. However rerwin is working on updating his modem-modprobe package and IMHO would be just the person to ask for help with this.

Here is the history. Lucid 5.2.5 is the last "non-zzz" Woof/Puppy. What that means is that Barry has now incorporated his own hardware detection/config scripts into Woof. They were originally called "zzz-scripts-simple-bk." Lucid 5.2.5 did not use these zzz-scripts. What Lucid 5.2.5 did use were the traditional scripts, which rerwin had a huge part in developing. Rerwin is still improving those scripts in the package modem-modprobe., as an upgrade for non-zzz Puppies.

1. rerwin would be the best candidate imho to figure out and correct easily and efficiently the "issues" with the alsa script.

2. rerwin might want to test his complete modem-modprobe script with EZ-Woof and the advanced kernel. That would be OK with me--if that develops then I will post some easy instructions about how to do it with EZ-Woof--it's no big deal at all.

I tried and changed a few things since 003 - at the moment i am just using standard lucid 525 with updated lupe-19 kernel and alsa mod - here is where i am up to so far - in the /init.d/alsamixer_fix scripts there is option to set Front to 75% - but both the laptops i have access to do not have this option so i don't know if that part works?
http://www.mediafire.com/file/me77j0o27j7wg5c/525alsamod03.tar.gz

I haven't uploaded an .iso for this yes but If you wan't to try it would probably be easier just to run through EZ-woof with pemasu lupe-19 kernel and copy over the files in the tar.gz when EZ-woof pauses to ask about i810 to see if this has any better results that 003.

Thanks for the heads up - i shall forward this thread to Rerwin - although i managed to get sound working on my laptop im just shooting in the dark when it comes to such things, so would be good to get feedback from some one who knows alsa and how these scripts works.

Frugal install of the latest. Regret to report that the initial boot was to a prompt again.Ran xorgwizard and no problem getting the desired 1024x768 resolution.
No sound or internet on initial boot.Sound was muted and nothing was checked in the Retrovol window. Made the necessary checkmarks and moved the sliders and sound started working. Running the Network Wizard got the network connection taken care of.
Everything is working now.

pemasu and stu90, I built EZ-Woof with the kernel that pemasu linked to. Good news--which all of you probably already know is that the 2.6.38.4 lupe19 builds fine without any errors in Woof. This was not the case in my previous build with the 2.6.38.4 kernel but that was lupe11 and this was lupe 19.

I did not use stu90's audio mod--and I have no sound and no retrovol. ***But*** using lsmod, I can see that the proper kernel sound modules have been loaded--for both sound cards. Alsaconf did not work though it thought it worked, but as pemasu says, I was using alsa 1.0.24--I will rebuild with the Lucid alsa and see what happens.

Playdayz. Lupe19 installs with barrys 16.4.2011 woof without any problems. The kernel though is not the last one.
I think that 525 build needs alsa hacking and also that /dev location fix which is included in stu90`s fix.

I have vgaswitcheroo enabled in kernel but it needs debugfs also and that was unticked.
Vgaswitcheroo enables dual graphics swithching and also possiblity to shut down power hungry external second graphic, making newer dual graphics laptops battery time about double.
I am going to experimenting of that in near future. Now I am compiling lupe20.
Lupe19 was needed due to missing option for ATI proprietary environment.

No quarantee that something is still missing, but this vgaswitcheroo thing came up today from forum as feature request.

Just to put these sound/internet/ display problems in some kind of context, this old test P4 also has installs of Mepis,Zenwalk,Ice Puppy, Snow Puppy and I'm posting from the official Lucid 525 now. Ice Puppy with 2.6.38.4 has none of the problems so what's the difference?
Rhetorical question.....

James C. Lol. I really dont know. I dont need in Ice Puppy /dev location fix and sound fixes seems to work for muted sound also.
Ice Puppy does not base anymore clearly to any lucid puppy release. I have adopted stuff during 511, 520 and 525. Latest has even alsa 1.0.24 with small modifications. Well, nice to hear that it works.
I am sure all these problems in some hardware will be resolved during time and every experimental build will show new features and bugs to be solved.
In fact Lucid Lite with 2.6.38.4 worked fine in my laptop.
Thank you stu90. It seems that your thread has evolved to the interesting discussion thread.

Live pfix=ram on my main Linux box. Good news, did boot to a 1440x900 display. Bad news, no internet or sound.
Internet,ran the wizard so no problem.
Sound.Ran Alsawizard, still no sound.Opened Retrovol, nothing was checked and all sliders was at zero.checked boxes and adjusted sliders, sound now working.

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