I am still a Christian but a lot has changed in my beliefs , a lot still remains the same for now though.I believe a whole lot more in a symbolic , metaphoric and allegoric sense now.I still do believe in the literal sense that people in the bible were real people and the story's have an original foundation of truth , that is that they happened but were exaggerated for teaching purposes ECT...

I think Revelation is probably symbolic , I think somewhere along the way people forgot these stories were not meant to be taken literally.I am just fine with people who believe literally though or whatever they want to believe or not believe . .

Most of what is in the Religious scriptures are symbolic. The truth is revealed as one progress on the spiritual journey, it all depends on one's level of awareness.

Well I have started to realize some things while here . someone knowing what I believe said to me sarcastically that they thought I probably laughed at them for what they believe but I do not how could I since I used to believe the same things.Besides the truth is I do not know with all certainty what is what only what seems logical to me.

Maybe they are right and I am wrong but yeah what ever the truth is it is absolute and we will all know in in the end so to speak.

Most of what is in the Religious scriptures are symbolic. The truth is revealed as one progress on the spiritual journey, it all depends on one's level of awareness.

Well I have started to realize some things while here . someone knowing what I believe said to me sarcastically that they thought I probably laughed at them for what they believe but I do not how could I since I used to believe the same things.Besides the truth is I do not know with all certainty what is what only what seems logical to me.

Maybe they are right and I am wrong but yeah what ever the truth is it is absolute and we will all know in in the end so to speak.

Well said !!!

Most of what is in the Religious scriptures are symbolic. The truth is revealed as one progress on the spiritual journey, it all depends on one's level of awareness.

I agree with ya buddy, it is what you make of it, and how much you believe in it, whatever it is!

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:19 PM

I dunno if I'd answered this one either, but I consider myself a Druid (or "neo-Druid", if you really must). I've been practicing these beliefs for 35+ years. Before that, I was raised Irish Catholic (which, if you know me, would explain why I have so much deep-seeded resentment for the Catholic sect of Christianity...no offense, White Witch!).
I understand that in regard to religion, it's very wrong to say one person is right and the other is wrong. We all have our own paths to walk, and with any luck, we end up where we are meant to be.

AS with most Catholics I've fallen and I can't get up but I still call myself a Catholic and it's stamped on my dog tags. I have a few issues with the Church but not enough to declare myself something else.

I've looked into other religions and don't find anything else that I'd rather be. I like bacon too much to become a jew and the other forms of Christianity I find too restricting or outright weird. No kissing snakes for this kid.

Besides it's fun being of a religion everyone hates, despises or is afraid of. It's just like being a soldier!

The Masons still think the Vatican is plotting against them, the "Christian" sects think we aren't Christians, and the Church is the foil for all the sorry pulp fiction paperback thrillers and stupid Hollywood films that don't use the Military as the enemy.

It"s hard not to go around saying "Mhuuuuhaaahaaaa!" and rubbing you hands together all the time.

Besides it's a Family Tradition.....Irish Catholic before Roman Catholic, German Lutheran and Scots Presbyterian. All rebels and soldiers in their time.

Christ gave the Keys of the Church to Peter not Reverend Billy Joe Jim Bob.

The only difference between Socialism and National Socialism is the snappy uniforms. - Logan "Aside from ending Slavery, Fascism and Communist World Domination, War has never solved anything! ""For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute! But it's "Savior of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot." - Rudyard Kipling "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."---George Orwell "Always Remember-All Lessons in Life are Expensive.....and the last one costs you everything you have." - Logan" Socialism is just Communism without a Dictator....and you can always find a Dictator!" - Logan "An Armed Man is a Citizen. An Unarmed Man is a Subject. Subject to anything anyone wants to do to him." - Logan "Without the Second Amendment there is no First Amendment...or Third or Fourth or Fifth....or 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 24th, 25th, 26th or 27th!" - Logan

Location:Connecticut's Côte Brune (I've never seen brown sea water before)

Posted 26 August 2013 - 11:06 AM

I still remember hearing Mass in Latin (and, as a little kid, sitting in the pews, wondering what the priest was saying) YEARS after Vatican II. Even at a young age, what started me thinking that Catholicism wasn't "right" for me (for others, if it's your faith, good for you) was seeing the blatant hypocracy of the Church and several of its followers: all the ornate decorations, the nice home the priests lived in and their nice cars, all the while passing the collection plate (basically telling people that god will love you more if you give money). I started wondering how much of this money is actually going to god, and how much was going to the "business" of the Church. And the parishoners were almost as bad - singing about loving each other and whatnot, but out on the steps of the church, criticizing their fellow worshippers for wearing clothes that weren't as nice as what they had on.
I understand that this sort of behavior isn't/wasn't exclusive to the Catholic faith, but since that is what I was raised with, I can only speak through that experience.

I still remember hearing Mass in Latin (and, as a little kid, sitting in the pews, wondering what the priest was saying) YEARS after Vatican II. Even at a young age, what started me thinking that Catholicism wasn't "right" for me (for others, if it's your faith, good for you) was seeing the blatant hypocracy of the Church and several of its followers: all the ornate decorations, the nice home the priests lived in and their nice cars, all the while passing the collection plate (basically telling people that god will love you more if you give money). I started wondering how much of this money is actually going to god, and how much was going to the "business" of the Church. And the parishoners were almost as bad - singing about loving each other and whatnot, but out on the steps of the church, criticizing their fellow worshippers for wearing clothes that weren't as nice as what they had on.I understand that this sort of behavior isn't/wasn't exclusive to the Catholic faith, but since that is what I was raised with, I can only speak through that experience.

Yep, saw that even worse in many of the "Christian" churches.The one I really find annoying and humorous (when I figured out what they were doing) is the Evangelical and Pentecostal sects sending out hot chicks to "Proselytize" (entice with the hint of a relationship if only you were of the same religion).

Hey! Look everyone! According to Obama I'm just as bad as an Islamo-Fascist Terrorist!

The only difference between Socialism and National Socialism is the snappy uniforms. - Logan "Aside from ending Slavery, Fascism and Communist World Domination, War has never solved anything! ""For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute! But it's "Savior of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot." - Rudyard Kipling "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."---George Orwell "Always Remember-All Lessons in Life are Expensive.....and the last one costs you everything you have." - Logan" Socialism is just Communism without a Dictator....and you can always find a Dictator!" - Logan "An Armed Man is a Citizen. An Unarmed Man is a Subject. Subject to anything anyone wants to do to him." - Logan "Without the Second Amendment there is no First Amendment...or Third or Fourth or Fifth....or 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 24th, 25th, 26th or 27th!" - Logan

Location:Connecticut's Côte Brune (I've never seen brown sea water before)

Posted 30 August 2013 - 08:49 AM

Yeah - I just wanted to add that I've got nothing against Catholics at all. Most of them are nice people...

I do, however, have serious issues with so-called "Christians" who automatically tell me that I'm going to "hell" because I don't believe in Jesus. I've had more than enough encounters with those types! If you believe in Jesus (the Buddah, Mohammed, Krishna, or who ever!) I'm fine with that. When you start judging me based on your religious convictions - that is when we're gonna have a problem!

I feel that I can openly discuss religion with anybody (in fact, I enjoy learning about other faiths), as long as everybody agrees that nobody is "wrong" and nobody is "right". Nobody knows until we get to the finish line.

Pagan for 30+ years...not wiccan...all wiccans are pagan but not all pagans are wiccan.I do practice ceremonial High magic as well as other forms of witchery.I'm not the fluffy bunny type.....I'm not the goth type...I swing both ways as is necessary to maintain balance.

The only difference between Socialism and National Socialism is the snappy uniforms. - Logan "Aside from ending Slavery, Fascism and Communist World Domination, War has never solved anything! ""For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute! But it's "Savior of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot." - Rudyard Kipling "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."---George Orwell "Always Remember-All Lessons in Life are Expensive.....and the last one costs you everything you have." - Logan" Socialism is just Communism without a Dictator....and you can always find a Dictator!" - Logan "An Armed Man is a Citizen. An Unarmed Man is a Subject. Subject to anything anyone wants to do to him." - Logan "Without the Second Amendment there is no First Amendment...or Third or Fourth or Fifth....or 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 24th, 25th, 26th or 27th!" - Logan

Location:Connecticut's Côte Brune (I've never seen brown sea water before)

Posted 17 July 2014 - 04:06 PM

I just believe.........

I'll have another Drink.

That's a statement echoed in many "churches" around the world - my favorite "church" is a quaint little Irish pub downtown. Comfy, not too loud, and great service. Wide variety of "holy water" ('uisce beatha', or 'water of life' in English...go on, look it up) Oh, and really good fish 'n' chips, too!

Each morning when I open my eyes I say to myself: I, not events, have the power to make me happy or unhappy today. I can choose which it shall be.Yesterday is dead, tomorrow hasn't arrived yet. I have just one day, today, and I'm going to be happy in it.