The New York Times (Matt Appuzzo & Adam Goldman) published an article yesterday citing a pending DOJ Inspector General Horowitz report that points the finger at former Asst. FBI Director Andrew McCabe for leaking information to the media.

Citing four people familiar with the IG inquiry, the motive for the New York Times is transparent. The “small group” of DOJ/FBI officials are trying to head-off the disturbing aspect to the IG outline and spin a false narrative. However, our earlier research into the text messaging of Lisa Page and Peter Strzok, in combination with the leak in question to former Wall Street Journal reporter Devlin Barrett, allows us to see through the narrative.

The unnamed officials within the back-story, clouded by the verbiage in both the New York Times recent article and the Washington Post follow-up, are all ‘small group’ members: FBI Asst Director Andrew McCabe, FBI Agent Peter Strzok, FBI Attorney Lisa Page, FBI Chief of Staff Jim Rybicki and FBI Public Relations Director Mike Kortan.

Prior reporting showed Asst. FBI Director Andrew McCabe -along with the entire small group- became aware of the Clinton emails on the Huma Abedin/Anthony Weiner laptop on September 28th, 2016. Attempting to protect Hillary Clinton, text messages showed McCabe and crew withheld that information for several weeks until October 28, 2016, when congress was notified and a public statement was made by Mike Kortan and FBI Director James Comey.

[Peter Strzok is ‘INBOX’ and Lisa Page is “OUTBOX’]

The “Devlin” in question is former Wall Street Journal National Security reporter Devlin Barrett, currently with The Washington Post. In the above cited text message exchange Lisa Page is on the phone with Devlin Barrett when the news of the Abedin/Weiner laptop Clinton emails was released. “Mike’s phone is on fire” is referencing former FBI Public Affairs Director, Michael “Mike” Kortan.

♦Simultaneous to this October 2016 timeline there was internal “small group” discussion about another controversial issue; the need for Andrew McCabe to recuse himself from the financial investigation of Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation.

FBI Chief of Staff James “Jim” Rybicki held the opinion that McCabe should recuse; however, taking that action may have compromised McCabe’s ability to protect Hillary Clinton. Lisa Page was the legal counsel to McCabe during these events and discussions, and didn’t see the need for a recusal or change of prior plans.

On October 23rd, 2016, Devlin Barrett again reported on a scoop:

“Scoop: McAuliffe PAC gave $467,500 to campaign of wife of senior FBI official who oversaw Clinton email probe” (link)

This October 23rd, 2016, “scoop” aligns with the internal text messaging discussion between Agent Peter Strzok and FBI Attorney Lisa Page who were discussing James Comey’s chief-of-staff James Rybicki recommending that FBI Asst. Director Andrew “Andy” McCabe should be recused from the Hillary Clinton investigation.

From the messaging the recusal was discussed mid-through-late October 2016:

00:52am …”if it’s a matter similar to those we’ve been talking about lately”…

The sourcing for the exclusive report by Devlin Barrett contained great details about the internal discussion on the controversy of Andrew McCabe and his financial connections to Clinton/McAuliffe. The leaks for the story were provided by Lisa Page and Peter Strzok:

“Wsj? Boy that was fast,” Strzok texted back, using the initials of the famed financial newspaper. “Should I ‘find’ it and tell the team?” (link)

According to the New York Times article yesterday: […] “The inspector general has concluded that Mr. McCabe authorized F.B.I. officials to provide information for that article, according to the four people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the report before it is published. The public affairs office had arranged a phone call to discuss the case, the people said. Mr. McCabe, as deputy director, had the authority to engage the news media.”

Again, the October 2016 “public affairs office” was Michael “Mike” Kortan. The New York Times is asserting that IG Horowitz will show the ‘small group’, McCabe, Kortan, Page and Strzok, coordinated for the leak of information to the Wall Street Journal.

Worth noting – Mike Kortan is the same FBI official who released the recent unauthorized FBI statement about the Nunes memo: “grave concerns about material omissions of fact” etc. A few days later Kortan was advised to resign by current FBI Director Christopher Wray.

Bingo…some watch these proceedings they are like watching … Dancing With The Stars…This is it, folks. As these proceedings go, so goes our Country. ‘Pretty damn sick and tired of people saying “they’ll be rioting, etc..” to which I say – let the chips fall where they may. I’m prepared to defend our home against this lunacy. This crap has to end NOW…Whatever it takes….

Remember the Rodney King riots? Remember the folks in Korea Town heading to rooftops with their AK’s? Notice that area went …untouched…?

My favorite image from King riots (if there is such a thing as a ‘favorite’ part of that nightmare) was the Korean shop owners camped out at their businesses with their guns. That said so much about the American Dream!

And you Remmy have hit the proverbial nail on the head…WE ALL STAND together in this fight. This is not about who said what to whom, it is about the LAW and IT’S APPLICATION…We Are All Equal Under the Law…Not a FEW!!! BTW…Handloading is going to be even easier…Notice the sails on primers/powder/bullets…EL YUMMMO!!!

It’s hard to tell where/if riots might happen. It’s doubtful that any mob would materialize in most states. If countering the government, there is no target here, except perhaps the Post Office. The snowflakes within our cities aren’t the ones I would fear. Our politicians are the enemy.

I do share your feelings about taking out the trash, and I’m still willing to fight and possibly give my life for my country.

Horowitz doesn’t like Obama at all, he was very angry they wouldn’t let him do his job as the IG over the State Department or Justice Department whichever it was or maybe both. Anyway, people forget, hes the one who uncovered the Strzok & Page lovers text messages and HE STILL HAS THE 5 MONTHS that were missing and he probably has their private messages when they changed to their own phones, in Gov. time that’s still considered Gov. documents.

I think maybe Sessions and Trump is playing HEAD GAMES, hear me out. Trump bashes Sessions, then Sessions has dinner with Rosenstien (whatever his name is) and one other guy. The Press defends Sessions, Trumps so outrageous, Sessions is an honorable man etc. etc. Then when the IG Report comes out, and Sessions goes after everybody named in the Report and appoints a Special Prosecutor, the Main Stream Media will have boxed themselves in, they the can’t come against Sessions after having praised him for the last year. I don’t know if this is true or not but if its what is happening this is 300 DDD Chess.

Remember how they treated Comey – ‘good guy’ for exonerating Clinton, ‘bad guy’ for bring up Weiner’s laptop, ‘good guy’ for getting fired by Trump, etc. The only consistency is on which side of the narrative the subject is on.

Yes, how many times have we seen the press be BFF with some primary candidate who is beating up on the leader, only to turn on a dime when their BFF becomes the winner? That’s a loser’s strategy to cultivate favor with the press. They only give it when it benefits them.

Judge Napolitano says that AG Sessions does not need a special counsel for Hillary. There already exists a truckload of evidence. Seven months ago Napolitano said that Sessions is not bound by Comey’s decision not to prosecute Hillary and that there is so much evidence of Hillary’s crimes that Sessions does not need any further investigation. This is likely one of the reasons that POTUS Trump is so frustrated with his AG.

My current take on Sessions is that he has patience, integrity, and some good sense, even if all that frustrates my desire to LOCK HER UP NOW. If indictment looms, the Clintons will unleash an unprecedented barrage of attacks both personal and political, using every paid, true-believer, and blackmailable journalist, politician, government employee, Clinton Foundation contributor and alumnus, plus an army of Clinton cronies foreign and domestic. Prosecuting them at all, much less successfully, will require having every conceivable i dotted, t crossed, and layers of protection from the assaults, that will extend to false criminal charges, sex crime accusations, Arkancides of witnesses and jurors, obstruction of justice, you name it. Using a Special Counsel to protect from charges of political bias is not legally required, but it is wise considering political realities. The regular DoJ cannot be trusted whatsoever, and should be left to pursue other tasks than prosecuting the Clinton Crime Empire (which would overwhelm them with volume anyway). Somehow the process must be removed from Washington, DC and NY to somewhere in the real America, where there might be hope of honest Judges, Grand Jurors and trial juries. This will be political Armageddon.

And how many bods have been stacked due to these 2 miscreants? That is why OUR AG is nicked named ==== “The Silent Assassin”!!! I can’t believe that everyone that has harped on AG Sessions and not taken a step back and looked at the overall picture…Geez, LouieeeeZZZZZ!!! More Wine before I get into trouble!!!

A Special Counsel puts the fate of America in the hands of a single man, accountable to NO ONE.

There’s only ONE MAN I trust to see this through, and that is President Donald Trump.

Special Accountability Dodges have no business taking the Reckoning away from us.

As far as the politics is concerned, appearance or no, this IS politics! We elected our Chief Law Officer in the form of PDJT. The crimes were politically motivated and were politically executed, so to speak. We are not obligated to suddenly place our fate into the hands of a single corruptible and vulnerable human being. Especially one with no accountability.

This IS President Trump’s job. Those who say he has to be hands off with the greatest threat ever to our Republic in order to avoid appearing political have it all wrong. Those who scream it loudest are those that fear a just Patriot will ensure the prosecutions are effected in a manner that saves this Country from their depredations, padt, present, and future. NO ONE ELSE CAN DO THIS.

President Trump IS our Special Prosecutor, chosen by we the people.

Let him do his job. While we do ours, preparing for the tantrums of the Left, protecting our families and our cities, and spread the word.

We can’t ask Trump to run away from this. It’s his job. Others will simply eff it up.

If we are worried about the Hell that will rain down on us and those prosecuting, well, the Left is gonna do that anyway, NO MATTER WHO IS LEADING IT.

PDJT has proven his mettle and will follow through. We need to prove our own.

This is not a vote and forget situation. Clearly, the Just that are Woke see the hazards. We can’t close our eyes to them, or imagine a Special Fairy Good Prosecutor that can shield us from disruption and reprisals. It is up to us to prepare, and act.

There’s gotta be more to it than meets the eye. Sessions works for Trump. Trump could have instructed Sessions to pursue charges against Hillary on day one and had Sessions refused fired him on the spot. There’s a reason they didn’t. I don’t know what it is but it isn’t because they felt sorry for her….

They didn’t because she is not the biggest fish, nor the most significant long-term danger. She ain’t for this world long, and in the end she is still just an evil puppet.

PDJT knows the significance of the Conspiracy and of Obama’s depredations from day one, to include being an ineligible Presidential candidate and an agent of enemy foreign powers. PDJT’s is a very large net, an exceedingly fine net, too.

Those setting personal deadlines by which point certain people must do certain things are silly, and tiresome.

This theory is all over the internet…..big masterminded coup. Maybe so, but do you think the MSM doesn’t read what we read? Do you really think the people this grand undercover scheme that are supposed to be fooled haven’t read here and elsewhere what the Sessions/Trump fake feud is really abt?

All the people that claim to have the inside story on this grand head fake are blowing the cover, aren’t they?

In order to pretend not to know things, it’s easier if one really doesn’t know. Head in sand principle. Two-year-olds hiding by covering their eyes.

Likely, few are capable of recognizing truth, and lots of people claim to have it. Those that recognize it and successfully sift through the internet to find us? Well, some are on our side, or will join due to CTH.

The others? What are they going to do? Erase their misdeeds? Have a conference call or meet at Spectre HQ? Fine. White Hats are watching every one of them. They’ll welcome some more stupid criminal stories to tell their grandchildren.

It’s obvious you have not studied Horowitz. He together with Chuck Grassley fought for years to restore his oversight of the DOJ NSD. Every Grassley official letter is copied to Horowitz.
I would encourage you to watch some of the testimony and read the documents related to restoring his oversight. I believe his oversight was restored in Nov 2016 and he started his investigation in Jan 2017.

There’s no need to fear – President DJT is here… and he has everything under control. Timing is EVERYTHING and I’m a hundred percent confident Obama is going down – and there won’t be as much devastation as you proclaim – for the MSM gives you a false illusion. Worst case scenario – the National Guard will be on standby when the “white hats” are ready to execute their plan. Have faith! For it has already been foretold by Q.

You do know there will be vastly different opinions of what a nothingburger contains, right? I will probably defer to Sundance’s judgement in this case. With me it’s not a “cult adoration” of Sundance. I cross check most of what I read from Sundance and he almost always ends up being the most accurate.

No one likes to talk about the fact anymore (not even Sundance) that the IG already released 1.2 million docs surrounding to the DOJ back on January 15, 2018. The DOJ was then supposed to then turn over all the docs to the Congressional Committees.

Sessions already has everything he needs but won’t do a thing.

If anyone can prove that those 1.2 million IG docs weren’t released yet, please post a link.

Here’s the link where Sundance was touting the release back in January.

And the downside to that is what? Seriously, as much as everyone would like to see reform done in a positive way if it comes to “destroying” the country then so be it. I’m sorry but we are headed there anyway. If Obama is implicated then he is implicated, put all the cards on the table, I am sick of OUR government acting as if they are somehow better than us and knowing what is best for us.

Willie Elbel is just another Debby Downer who is completely out of the loop. There’s a new sheriff in town and the old way of sweeping corruption under the rug has ended. Obama will go to prison and any attempts at rioting will be shut down by the National Guard.

Willie dear, riots are already destroying the country. Or did you miss Ferguson, et al? Where I live we have marchers and protesters almost every day. What could possibly go wrong if we kinda’ sorta’ zap the infidels? I say Horowitz better fish or cut bait. Didn’t Horowitz either find, or dredge up, the FISA e-mails that the FBI said were irretrievably lost?

WaPo reporting that Huma Abedin was interviewed as part of Clinton email probe in *Dec. 2016*: https://t.co/XtCGzl5x0q As we reported last month, Strzok texts showed him discussing a Huma interview and possible immunity (which wasn't given): https://t.co/pASJDku1il

It absolutely amazes me that there are people that think our President is trapped by Mueller, Rosenstein and Sessions. That he is somehow afraid to fire any of them.

This is the same man that told the world a big FU by getting us out of the Paris Accord. The same man that told every NATO country they better put up 2% of their GDP to their military. The same man that is now about to put tariffs on steel and aluminum basically once again telling the world FU. The same man that will get us out of NAFTA and the Iran Deal.

Please take a few minutes to realize that our President is NOT afraid of firing these three people or anyone else for that matter. Justice will be served. Who is ultimately leading that charge at the DOJ doesn’t really matter.

And he’s the same man Mueller met with just before he was named SC by Rosenstein.

And, he’s the same man that I bet let Mueller see some interesting things in Mueller’s file.

And, he’s the same man that I bet told Mueller, “Tell Rosie that you and he have a choice to make about what you are going to do with the investigation, how you handle it, and how it affects your future based on all the information contained in both your files. It’s your choice to make.”

This 21 thing is a SMART PLAY by Trump, most 18-20 year old guys are living with their parents and so their parents can buy them a gun anyway, its a NOTHING BURGER, and the truth is a guy that age not living with parents, a loner, a backwards guy like this fellow, would be stopped. It means nothing, and if it helps get Conservatives Elected, then WE WIN because we get Conservative Judges and thus Supreme Court Justices who will then uphold the 2nd Amendment in total.

The Liberal Dems problem is they are so far left. If he Republicans show a willing to hear the center, they win, it doesn’t matter of its a NOTHING BURGER in reality. This 21 this means nothing. I don’t think people should vote until they get out of their parents house, but others don’t agree, thats what makes America great, we can voice our opinions.

This guy had three illegal guns in addition to his legal ones. No gun control measure would have stopped him.
Now, enforcing existing criminal law would have stopped him because he would be in jail for domestic violence.

This 21 thing is a SMART PLAY by Trump, most 18-20 year old guys are living with their parents and so their parents can buy them a gun anyway, its a NOTHING BURGER, and the truth is a guy that age not living with parents, a loner, a backwards guy like this fellow, would be stopped.

And what about the 18-20 year old FEMALES who exercise their 2nd Amendment rights to protect themselves? Are you saying they do not (or should not) have the right to defend themselves against a potential threat? You’re assuming only GUYS own guns.

Hi Kathy, Right now the law is 21 for handguns purchased through a licensed dealer, which is probably why the AR-15 is so popular, especially amongst those under the age of 21.

There are thousands of gun clubs across America whose members include many females under the age of 21 and their weapon of choice is the very popular AR-15 which is constantly, and incorrectly, referred to as an “assault rifle”. Technically speaking, it’s a “sporting gun” which also serves as a good weapon for self defense when it’s your only option.

So does this mean that 21 year olds can already only buy AR-15 type weapons? Or is there something else they can buy? (obviously I know nothing about guns) If not, how/when did that happen in the first place? If you know….thx

I’m not sure I understand your question. Did you mean to say 18 yr olds instead of 21? If so, I can answer that.

In 1968 under the gun control act, legislation was passed to increase the age from 18 to 21 years old to buy a handgun. Those under the age of 21 can still purchase long guns such as rifles, shotguns and also, the ammo for these guns.

No problem. While I agree that the infringement of constitutional rights is extremely problematic, I think it’s always important for us to be clear exactly what we are talking about in any particular instance. I was just trying to make sure I understood exactly what was being proposed.

ANY “long gun (rifle or shotgun)” could ultimately be classified as an “assault rifle” since most definitions only rely on aesthetic appearance….”It looks mean”……and not its functionality…..an AR-15 is a semi automatic .223 rifle which because of ammunition load typically has a high muzzle velocity for bullets fired…….it is classified as an “assault rifle” because of options like a barrel guard, flash suppressor, pistol grip, folding rear stock (M-4) and detachable magazine…….even the M-1 Garand had a detachable magazine and it was a heavy .30 cal with most having wood stocks front and back

And an AR 15 is a very woman friendly gun. If you are limited at 18 to 21 to a rifle/shotgun, it is a great choice. It is light weight, very low recoil and can be had in fairly short lengths. With the right ammo, over penetration (very important in home defense) can be limited.

Well played Abbey, well played. Obviously I’m reserving judgement until things actually play out but I hate how this narrative is going. I trust PTRUMP will do the right thing and until I see otherwise (pen to paper) I will continue to trust him.
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Making rights malleable like this is very dangerous. First you can’t withhold somebody’s ability to exercise their constitutional rights until they reach a certain age once they become an adult. We recognize that an adult is 18 not 21. If you want change the age of what is legally considered an adult fine, but that means that all rights are delayed until that age is reached. You can’t have it both ways.

Not really if the subtext is 18-21 year olds can’t have firearms because they can’t be trusted not to kill people and that’s the subtext.

Then you have the whole we lowered the voting age to 18 because we were sending 18 year olds off to war. So if we no longer say that Constitutional rights apply to 18 year olds than we need to raise the voting age.

Davidb, military personnel issued a firearm for the purpose of performing their duties, be it during basic or MOS training, in a combat zone, while on guard duty, or those who are military police, are not bound by civilian law. Military Police are currently issued M9’s as their sidearm. There are many MP’s under the age of 21 and it’s been that way going back decades. Minimum age for enlistment is 17 with parental consent. It’s been that way for over a hundred years.

even if this is PDJT’s strategy I oppose him using political footballs with the “promises” he made……he made a BIG thing during the campaign as the candidate who would PROTECT the 2nd Amendment and yet now he is publicly ATTACKING it in these for public consumption meetings

do you have a HS degree because your critical thinking skills are SERIOUSLY lacking?….first off the Bill of Rights are not a road map for how the government can restrict our GOD given rights but are written to be an impediment to government attempting to do just what this silly “gun control” meeting proposes……as our rights are not “given” from government but are a NATURAL right we possess by simply living and under current law and practice 18 year olds are ADULTS with the ability to make decisions in our society guess what?….they also have those SAME rights as all other adults

If Obama’s Promise program continues to allow violent and “arrestable” student behavior to go unreported, then we need the additional post-high school years to let the sickos build a record and get denied through a background check.

Read all the replies and (as a long-time, relatively speaking, conservative, well before the age of majority, either one, was reached,) I can only find this to say: age doesn’t matter. level of indoctrination does. Children and teens can be highly intelligent, but if they’re sent off to school and their minds are filled with prog propaganda, they’ll never be trustworthy with a gun, no matter how old they are.

“What would you think if I told you the hard drive of one of my personal computers was secretly switched out w/another while in custody of the Justice Dept. Inspector General– before they gave it back to me?” Attkisson tweeted, adding “Tick-tock” at the end, suggesting there’s more to the story.

Attkisson says that INSPECTOR GENERAL MICHAEL HOROWITZ was the Inspector General which she gave her computer(s) to, and who she she claims has her hard drive.

Attkisson’s computer was famously hacked in 2012 while she was reporting on the Benghazi scandal for CBS – which the journalist captured on video given to Politico in 2014. A cybersecurity firm hired by the network “determined through forensic analysis” that “Attkisson’s computer was accessed by an unauthorized, external, unknown party on multiple occasions in late 2012.”

Attkisson wrote in her memoir that a source linked to a government agency implicated a “sophisticated entity that used commercial, nonattributable spyware that’s proprietary to a government agency: either the CIA, FBI, the Defense Intelligence Agency or the National Security Agency” in the hack.

Attkisson wrote last August on her blog:

The IG investigators found and described to me significant suspicious anomalies in that system much like the CBS laptop, unearthing similar efforts by someone to erase data and evidence. However, when the IG computer experts finished their review, the findings went to higher ups and the resulting report was inexplicably withheld from me in its entirety.

I was shut out.

Many months later, under pressure from Congress, the IG eventually released a very different-sounding summary of its forensics report to the press. It recast or excluded much of what the investigators had told me they’d found. I attempted to obtain the full report and original notes, some of which I reviewed while the investigation was underway, describing the suspicious activity found on my personal computer. However, the IG has stonewalled my Freedom of Information (FOI) requests for these documents for several years. If the Department of Justice won’t comply with FOI law, then what recourse does a citizen have?

Indeed. Prior to WWI the tax-exempt Carnegie Foundation was devising a means by which they could alter America, making our people “comfortable” with their plan to socialize/communize the US short of all-out war.
Norman Dodd and the Reece Commission as well as the in-depth research on American education since 1934 by Charlotte Iserbyt detail how Carnegie went to work on us.

That would make me wonder if we should still have faith in the IG investigation. If he has to rely on the corrupt FBI for forensics (and who knows what else) it is not as independent of an investigation as I had thought it was.

Seriously doubt if SA is mistaken on anything regarding the obama deep state attack on her. Hoping she will share more information with us. At this point, I have more trust in her than almost anyone else.

I wonder how she determined that the HD had been swapped? She would have had to determine and record the HD serial number before submitting the machine to them, which shows a lot of foresight on her part.

But for that matter, why would the Feebs want to keep her original drive anyway?

The only thing I can think of is perhaps there was some malware that they built into the firmware of the “new” HD itself to allow further intrusion going forwards, then duplicated the drive content to make it appear original. But if they went to all that trouble, surely they would touch up the serial number as well?

Interesting idea. But that would have the required that “the bad guys” have physical custody of the computer for a while to insert the rigged drive some time earlier than the start of this episode. If she had simply bought it off the shelf (just guessing here) how could it have been “personalized” for her like that? Unless they all have it built-in as a backdoor, but that’s a nightmare sort of conspiracy scenario, and I doubt it.

I may be wrong, but I don’t think you can use a remote-control exploit to flash the firmware on HD controller boards to allow insertion of malware. I think you need physical access to the board, and perhaps even unsoldering and extraction of the chip.

Her article says her forensic team wrote the serial number down before thy gave it to IG. Came back to her, hadn’t been used since. I checking it recently they found the drive had a different serial number.

Have no idea. But, since this happened to sharyl and she is speaking to it directly, and she is a smart cookie,trustworthy, a target of o, I will trust that she knows what she’s talking about and has the details and evidence to back up her claims. Not her first rodeo. Everyone else is pontificating their opinions.

I’m getting the impression that Sessions will ignore and not act upon any criminal referrals from Horowitz. But POTUS last tweet hitting Sessions could possibly be Kabuki to lend more legitimacy to any action Sessions may take. We will know soon.

Trust Sessions! As Q said what makes a great movie: good actors and Sessions and Trump work in tandem. Trumps tweet about Sessions is intended to keep the left out of the loop and thinking that the president is in disagreement with Sessions. The left just eats that up!
This issue is already settled and on track to nail those involved in the attempted coup facing justice long overdue.
The case against all of them is already completed and sealed indictments are filed with the courts.

Huh…? Feb 24th is more like it… and I suspect an ulterior motive with you saying not to take anything said after January 5th differently – for Q often proved his legitimacy throughout. If you are in fact legit – do better homework.

@paulwoll: His absence is by intent – remember he told us that there would be a 10 days darkness! Actions do take place although we do not know which ones but he told us about the MAP and the anons figured it out.
Q should be posting again on 5 March 2017.

Paul. Puzzled as to why you would say this. Q’s last post was Feb 24th. Go to you tube and search for we the people.livestream. Our movement is strong and going 24/7. Millions of people involved from all over the world.

@Summer: Why bother commenting when you consider the Q team to be posting garbage?
If you had read the Q Team mission statement why they sought out the board with the autists and why they started to drop /crumbs/ or intel drops whichever you want to use you would understand the reasons.
Being a team with top secret clearances they are limited in what they can give us. Then there is the issue of the intel gained by our military intelligence which can never be divulged one way or the other. It’s part of the military SOP.
Next – the crumbs are meant for us – the American citizens – to search and research the drop to find out the truth ourselves. It involves all of us learning the treachery first hand what our government really was involved in.
Of course you think its garbage because you may be lazy and want it all laid out and in your lap without doing the work. Well the real world does not work that way.
It also made us lazy taking promises by politicians as a gospel and got us where we find ourselves now after the 2016 presidential election.
Could a Navy Admiral Mike Rogers or a General (ret) Flynn come out to a microphone and tell us all they discovered and followed? Really?
If you believe that than may your comment is apt.
Like Sundance who methodically is building case after case by researching doing the heavy lifting on behalf of us would we have learned about the plans of the GOPe campaign plans, the Trayvon Martin case or everything else that transpired ever since?
Would you be that person explaining all that to us who visit Sundance’s site to learn?
It’s okay to be a naysayers but its not okay to label the patriotic Q team – military members – posting garbage . So go back to the mission statement by the Q team about why they do what they do and give us info enabling us to take back our country!

I take particular offense to calling Summer a lazy globalist just because she doesn’t follow Q. I don’t follow Q, either. Neither do lots of other commenters who come to this site. Some of us don’t have the time or patience to decode riddles by someone whose credibility has yet to be established. I read Q’s drops in the beginning. Those mass arrests he predicted were supposed to occur months ago. It hasn’t happened. And yeah-I know that disinformation is part of Q’s admitted strategy. We may find out later that Q is a legitimate insider whose followers figured out “the riddle.” Good. So be it. I totally understand the intrigue. I’m just not investing my own time or effort in it.

I will bother to comment when I feel like bothering to comment. Your consent and approval are not required.

“Being a team with top secret clearances…”
“Military intelligence…”

Your personal belief in this unsupported claim made my some anonymous individual pretending to leak classified “crumbs” to the “board with autists” is a hilarious false assumption, in my opinion, but you are certainly entitled to make any assumptions you wish. However, you insist that everyone else must make the same assumption or be condemned as lazy and whatnot. Using your own words, the world does not work this way.

Been a lurker on this site since just before the election campaign. Just wanted to come on to say thank you to Sundance and team for keeping it all sane and in proper perspective. Despite living up here in Libtard land I have been keenly interested in all that is happening south of the border. I am a big supporter of POTUS. I am hoping and praying for justice for the POTUS. Thanks Sundance and team for the best site on the net to get a fair perspective on what is really happening. Keep it up and I will keep following.

Here is what I am praying for, the white hats are playing their cards, what we can prove and what we are going to do, close to the chest. At the right time the black hats will be hit on multiple fronts making it more difficult for the black hats to spin and defend.
I think back to the exposure of the five. Had to come from the IG and was a necessary event to slow down the coup attempt. Slow down, they can’t stop it as those involved have too much to lose and have all been told to stay in place and not quit unlesss you have to lawyer up.

The “evidence” he will use will be the narrative already played in the media, i.e., the Crowdstrike report. So what if we all know that’s a complete BS narrative. He knows he’ll never have to prove it.

It’s a beautiful Friday so I am not going to join the debbie downers yet. 🙂

I have considerable optimism yet, because the Deep State would not have felt compelled to plant this article unless it sensed/knew that something seriously harmful to it is in the works.

There’s nothing to lose by being upbeat. Either there are sufficient white hats ready to drop the Big Ugly. Or there aren’t. Then, if the latter is true, it means that we are hopelessly screwed and living in a Woody Allen movie instead of the US of A.

The elements of actual crimes are there anyway. Possession of classified documents outside secured channels is the crime. Intent and/or negligence had no legal bearing. Comey made that excuse up. Changing the words were a matter of “optics”. Whatever he called it it made no difference. There never was going to be an indictment under Obama’s DOJ.

Words are vitally important in swinging public opinion. Controlling the language facilitates controlling the narrative. The significance of events can be ramped up or down based on the emotional connections of the selected words. The left has used this technique for a long time. It’s no accident that one of their silver-back grand poobah’s, Noam Chomsky, is a professor of linguistics at MIT.

I think they are waiting to draw zero into the net . If they don’t prove criminal charges on him . he would just tweet defense to anyone on trial ., He must be put on the run and silenced before you could start cleaning this up .

I can’t know of course, but I don’t think for a minute anyone is gunning for Obama.
For one, I don’t think his fingerprints are on this. He just hired loyal partisan hacks that “knew” what needed to be done.

And, I don’t think anyone has the desire or fortitude to pursue a criminal investigation against the first black president.

The Obama experience can not be revisited. Although by and large a prop, Zero has been the face, and legal authority, allowing for The Virulent Swamp to be fully weaponized without, heretofore, push-back or consequences.

“Senator Johnson is chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee. He continues to review the faux FBI investigation of Hillary Clinton and her email server. He has noticed some peculiarities in the timeline related to the FBI’s handling of the infamous Weiner laptop. High-level FBI officials were aware of the problematic laptop in late September 2016. Senator Johnson has accordingly sent a letter to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein seeking to understand what happened (or not) when it did and why. Brooke Singman covered Senator Johnson’s letter here in a good story for Fox News. I have embedded a copy of the letter below.

The infamous FBI lovebirds Peter Strzok and Lisa Page figure prominently in Senator Johnson’s letter. The letter follows the trail of their text messages. There is news in this letter. It is of interest on its own terms. While we await the Department of Justice Inspector General’s report on the FBI handling of the Clinton investigation, the letter emphasizes to me how much we still don’t know. I thought some readers might find it of interest.

I’m not sure why the letter is addressed to Rod Rosenstein. Isn’t this a subject that remains within the jurisdiction of Attorney General Sessions?”

AG Sessions recused himself “from any existing or future investigations of any matters related in any way to the campaigns for President of the United States.” So it would seem that any investigation of FISA abuses and obstruction of justice in the Hillary “matter” would fall to Deputy AG Rosenstein. That’s the same Rod Rosenstein who signed one or more of the FISA warrants to spy on Trump. Fox News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett indicated that 6 federal felony statutes were violated in lying to the FISA judges. Rosenstein will have to investigate himself (again). This is looking like the DOJ’s Uranium One investigation. Sessions told Congress that his recusal extended all the way back to the 2009 Uranium One scandal and he appointed Rosenstein to investigate. When Senator Grassley pointed out that Rosenstein was involved in the Uranium One scandal (along with Mueller, Comey, McCabe, Weissmann, Holder, Clinton, et al.), Sessions told the Senator that Rosenstein can investigate himself.

NBC NEWS: Dec 21, 2017 – “On the orders of Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Justice Department prosecutors have begun asking FBI agents to explain the evidence they found in a now dormant criminal investigation into a controversial uranium deal that critics have linked to Bill and Hillary Clinton…”

For your information I did check before I stated those things. But I didn’t check the FAKE NEWS sites that you relied on.

The Huffington Post headline that you posted just says that Sessions revived the probe but doesn’t say that Sessions is leading it. The Slate headline says Sessions ordered an investigation but doesn’t say that Sessions is leading it. I don’t ever read the FAKE NEWS at NBC, Huffington Post, MSNBC, nor Slate. Sundance would never rely on those sources!

I trust Congressman Matt Gaetz, not your FAKE NEWS sources:
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) told Breitbart News on Wednesday that he and other House Judiciary Committee Republicans had met with Sessions at the Justice Department on September 28 in advance of an upcoming committee hearing with Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein later this month. Gaetz said that when he asked Sessions to appoint a special counsel to investigate the 2010 Uranium One deal and Fusion GPS, the attorney general stood up, said he could not discuss the matter because he had recused himself, and walked out of the room, leaving them with a group of Rosenstein staffers “who showed no interest.”http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/02/rep-matt-gaetz-says-jeff-sessions-recused-uranium-one-deal/

This is the testimony that AG Sessions gave to Senator Grassley in October 2017. Sessions didn’t state that he was conducting the investigation. He stated that Deputy AG Rosenstein is a man of integrity and can investigate himself in the Uranium One Investigation.

The pic of McCabe, Page, Strzok, at the top of this piece: where are they? Where are they going or coming from? When was this? Who took the pic? Underneath the pic of Hillary is a guy in a green tie that has shown up on previous posts in this image. He is looking at McCabe like “WTF did you just say?” Who is that guy, and why the WTF expression on his face?

Remember when the media would tell us that even if you don’t like Obama’s policies (you know, like lie, cheat, steal, destroy) you’d really like him personally if you knew him? I never bought into that. I always thought he was a mindless, arrogant, narcissistic stoner. Now, POTUS Trump…what I wouldn’t give to spend 10 minutes in that man’s company!!

I just love how the SD uses editorial headline language like a master. I have read this article of his three times and many of linked articles looking for the details to support his assertion the MSM media is trying spin McCabe leaks connection before the Hororwitz Report is released.

I can’t find it BUT Oh boy, ol’boy I did get a nice gingerbread crumb trail leading right back to McCabe’s role in sweeping HRC email ‘matter’ right under rug.

Im with you. I think there will be information contained within that will be grounds for indictment but I think that all of the Obama holdovers will make the process so long and difficult that we the people will quit caring. They will try to wait us out.

If Obungo accidently appointed Ronald Reagan, thinking he would be in Awe of of the great kenyan, would you be suspicious of Reagan, knowing his moral values? I believe Obungo wasn’t aware of Horowitz not being a follower of him.

I am slowly losing my inclination to Christian charity, that justice should be tempered with mercy. Not just for the ‘(not so) Small Group’ but all their collaborators and others with mens rea who have earned the first without merit of the latter.

Also note the (broadly related) the apparent ‘astroturfing’ and official shenanigans relating to Broward County as well as the countless other premeditated acts of war committed against Us the People.

The People are sovereign in this land.

I don’t know for sure, but I’m afraid that Sundance may have some idea of just how Big and just how Ugly the ‘Big Ugly’ actually is and may become.

Weep for The Republic.

It may well be that we will not – perhaps cannot – keep Her – however dear She is or however hard we try.

“The Incarnation through the death of Christ makes it possible for God to be “just, and the justifier of him that believeth in Jesus.” If God should be merciful without the satisfaction of justice, He would cease to be a God of justice and would thus forfeit His throne of righteousness. In a word, He would cease to be God.”

Thanks to everyone who has been working on this to back into “what did you know and when did you know it?”

The gist of the IMs is that, before Oct 23, 2017, there was chatter that McCabe’s wife’s story was about to break. The FBI obviously knew about it, had internal meetings about it, and the allegation is that agents were authorized to leak their version of the story to certain press.

9/28/2017: Strzok called to McCabe’s office, informed that the SDNY office has Weiner’s emails.

The context of this is that Hillary’s classified emails were discovered on the Abedin/Weiner laptop during the child pornography investigation. SDNY cannot include classified information in their discovery, or else this evidence can be FOIA requested as part of the court case. Comey & McCabe was tasked to investigate, but the department was slow-walking from this point, and we have allegations that the NY division needed action by October in order to proceed with their investigation. This is what led to Comey “re-opening” his investigation.

So, what was out there in the press the week before Oct 23? Thankfully, Google has a filter option to filter by date:

10/13/2017: Comey/Lynch meeting is pointed at as FBI covering up the server investigation

“One of Mr. Trump’s foreign policy advisers, Michael T. Flynn, a retired general who headed the Defense Intelligence Agency, said the documents provided “undeniable proof” that Mrs. Clinton had “colluded with the F.B.I., D.O.J. and State Department to cover up criminal activity at the highest levels.””

10/19/2017: McCauley (FBI) admits Kennedy (State Dept) pressured him into de-classify emails found, to reduce the number of email violations. This included quid pro quo allegations over overseas staffing levels.

So the “quid pro quo” that they were discussing may not have been McCabes, but related instead to the State Department. It’s just as bad, since it ropes in Clinton, and Clinton had the DNC under their control. So, is this “leak” damage control to fend off quid pro quo allegations? Is it a distraction to get people off of the WikiLeaks drop?

Hillary was involved in the pay-to-play scheme to hand off Port Canaveral cargo container operations to the Jafars of Gulftainer and the Abraaj Group ….and a Wikileaks dump proved it…

The Jafars helped to raise $70 BILLION for the Clinton Global Initiative and also received a US critical infrastructure port.

The Jafars are in 3 partnerships with Russia. One for the exporting of Trojan Horse CLUB K and another that partners the Jafars with ROSATOM and URANIUM ONE.

The Jafars include SADDAM’s nuclear mastermind Dr. Jafar Dhia Jafar who designed the miniaturized nuclear weapon known as “BEACH BALL”…strikingly similar to the miniaturized nuclear weapon recently seen on NoKo television with Kim Jong Un. Jafar is an EMIS expert and some say the only equal to Oppenheimer.

Dr JAFAR’s business partner/brother Hamid Jafar was under investigation by 3 Congressional committees and the Treasury Department for his “Oil for Superweapons” scheme to fund Sadam’s and his brother Dr. Jafar’s WMD program..

Hillary & Bill Clinton and Obama were behind this treasonous deal that placed Russia, Iran, and the Axis of Evil inside the wire at Port Canaveral …where our sea, space and air command reside.

The NYT’s, Morningstar, WSJ, Reuters, and Bloomberg are all reporting that Bill Gates and the World Bank are demanding a forensic accounting of the Abraaj Group (founding member Hamid Jafar and Director Wahid Hamid who is Obama’s Occidental roommate and mysterious trip to Pakistan fellow traveler) they are demanding to know where the hundreds of millions have gone…Abraaj Group is hiring their own forensic accountant..

Abraaj Group received hundreds of millions from Clinton’s State Department via OPIC funds…Abraaj was found to be giving monies to KE Electric who was found to be building hospitals for ISIS

You’re right this is transparent spin to belittle the IG’s report before it issues, to give the Kool-Aid drinkers an excuse not to read it when it comes, because the NYT has already debunked “the” supposedly key premise: McCabe et al will be criticized for authorizing leaks, which he was authorized to do, and, look! Here were two stories leaked that were harmful and embarrassing to Clinton and McCabe. Nothingburger, no need to think further.

But beware the partial admission, and what it likely conceals!

First, these likely are not the only two leaks McCabe and Crowd will be shown to have leaked, but they may be the only ones unfavorable to their “side.” Sundance has already tied these leaks to Strzok-Page texts, so they are just admitting what is already known – tactical concessions, made to admit what is known and thereby claim transparency. Presumably there likely will be many, many leaks involving the Crowd, and they will be of the political narrative crafting variety, in which the NYT is a leading player, and their role as such a foundation of their business.

Second, the Clinton email server investigation, MidYear Exam, isn’t the only investigation that was tearing the DOJ and FBI apart at the time: irregularities at the Clinton Foundation, i.e., pay to play, were also at issue, and the Weiner laptop likely contained all of Huma Abedin’s emails on her Clinton-server account, including her share of the 35,000 emails scrubbed and bleached from the server itself. The New York Times article yesterday, and the cited Wall Street Journal report from October 2016 both show that McCabe was deeply embroiled on the Clinton Foundation investigation (and, we can presume, in crafting the public narrative of how he managed it). Details of that investigation have been sparsely reported. But if you look at what we can presume is Strzok’s own account of the eventual review and report of the Weiner laptop, it appears that someone, Comey maybe, the whole DOJ/FBI team maybe (hard to imagine Obama wouldn’t have had been kept apprised) had decided to split the baby: we’ll review the laptop for misuse of classified information during Clinton’s tenure at DOS, the sole scope of MidYear Exam for which Hillary had previously been exonerated, and inform Congress who will likely inform the public, but we won’t unveil any explosive information from the pay-to-play investigation, or obstruction of justice, destruction of subpoenaed evidence investigations, because that would directly affect the pending election and is against our own rules, both of maintaining grand jury secrecy, and not making public moves during elections that might sway them.

“In October 2016, The Wall Street Journal revealed a dispute between F.B.I. and Justice Department officials over how to proceed in an investigation into the financial dealings of the Clinton family’s foundation. The article revealed a closed-door meeting during which senior Justice Department officials were dismissive of the evidence and declined to authorize subpoenas or grand jury activity. Some F.B.I. agents, the article said, believed that Mr. McCabe had put the brakes on the investigation.

The October 2016 WSJ article provides a lot of detail about how the Clinton Foundation investigation was consolidated, controlled, limited and largely kept secret during 2016, and is worth re-reading in light of recent disclosures. At the end, it becomes clear that McCabe at the FBI prevented the emails on the Weiner laptop from being reviewed for purposes of the Clinton Foundation investigation.

“In September, agents on the foundation case asked to see the emails contained on nongovernment laptops that had been searched as part of the Clinton email case, but that request was rejected by prosecutors at the Eastern District of New York, in Brooklyn. Those emails were given to the FBI based on grants of partial immunity and limited-use agreements, meaning agents could only use them for the purpose of investigating possible mishandling of classified information.

Finally, Peter Strzok led the review of the Weiner laptop, that resulted in Comey’s second exoneration of Clinton just before the election. His actions during the review and Comey’s decision to make a second exoneration were reported in the NYT in April 2017, with detail that could only have come from Strzok or someone looking over his shoulder:

“On Nov. 5, three days before Election Day, Mr. Strzok and his team had 3,000 emails left to review. That night, they ordered pizza and dug in. At about 2 a.m., Mr. Strzok wrote an email to Mr. Comey and scheduled it to send at 6 a.m. They were finished.

“A few hours later, Mr. Strzok and his team were back in Mr. Comey’s conference room for a final briefing: Only about 3,000 emails had been potentially work-related. A dozen or so email chains contained classified information, but the F.B.I. had already seen it.

“And agents had found no emails from the BlackBerry server during the crucial period when Mrs. Clinton was at the State Department.

“Nothing had changed what Mr. Comey had said in July.

“That conclusion was met with a mixture of relief and angst. Everyone at the meeting knew that the question would quickly turn to whether Mr. Comey’s letter had been necessary.

Let’s hope the IG or someone at the Trump DOJ has considered the email on the Weiner laptop (and maybe there are other “nongovernmental laptops” at issue, e.g., Imran Awan’s DWS laptop or other servers, Seth Rich’s laptop) and their relationship to investigations into the Clinton Foundation, as well as evidence that the Obama DOJ/FBI interfered in those investigations for inappropriate political reasons.

Note the very public way the Clinton server investigation was handled, vs the highly contained manner in which the Clinton Foundation investigation was handled: very limited disclosures obviously crafted by senior and “authorized” leakers granting exclusive scoops to preferred media outlets, then thereafter tightly contained. This also applies to the Weiner laptop, the DWS-Imran Awan laptop, and the Seth Rich laptop. What Sessions or Rosenstein, or Horowitz needs to do is to put an unbiased DOJ prosecutor in charge of all those investigations, to review them, and to make independent judgments about whether evidence of crimes need to be further investigated, and political cover-ups by the Obama DOJ/FBI were performed. It certainly appears that MidYear Exam was a Clinton spin operation from the beginning, to provide public exoneration prior to the conventions, and to cover up all the ugly evidence that wasn’t limited to classified information improperly stored during her tenure in office.

Those other crimes possibly to include: 1) destruction of evidence and obstruction of justice in Midterm exam; 2) pay to play involving the Clinton Foundation; 3) collusion by the Clintons, Podestas, Abedin, DWS or others with foreign entities to influence the election; 4) the Seth Rich murder; 5) the Imran Awan affair, e.g., could he have been facilitating surreptitious foreign entity or other unauthorized monitoring of Democratic Congressperson email communications?

So Comey multiple times refused to tell the public that President Trump was not under investigation (as Comey had told the President three times) because Saint Comey claimed he couldn’t comment publicly about ongoing investigations one way or the other (confirm or deny), yet it appears that the FBI’s developing excuse will be that their officials are authorized to authorize agents to “leak” to the media in order to correct falsehoods in the media. But that’s exactly what President Trump asked Comey to do–correct a false impression. We can only surmise, then, that for political reasons Comey wasn’t interested in correcting the falsehood that Trump was under investigation.

So many losing faith in Sessions on this thread, yet I can’t say it’s hard to blame them. But I’m willing to wait the extra bit for the IG Report and at that point, REAL action will be taken, or it won’t. My guess is that something akin to a MOAB will hit the swamp.

President Trump doesn’t ‘do’ nuanced procedures, he makes bold, aggressive moves when the time is right, and there is no way he will allow the corruption and lawlessness that has festered for far too many decades in DC to go unexposed and unpunished. Especially when it was aimed at bringing him and his family down.

Yes – when the boss expressed his great displeasure, I expected Sessions to resign. Instead he implied that he would do so only if HE felt it was appropriate. Then congress backed him up. I had been such a fan of Sessions – couldn’t believe my own lyin’ eyes and ears.

with respect, Guffman, POTUS Trump does do nuanced but it goes unnoticed by most. Look at how he dealt with China by getting his granddaughter to sing to Chairman Xi. That is brilliant nuance that shows how well he understands their culture and values. Look how he pulled together the Arab nations and got their leaders together in one room with no wars started. Then they on their own call out Qatar for funding extremism. Trump’s nuance is so nuanced that no one even notices it unless they are deep in the weeds (or unless Sundance explains it to us LOL).

IMHO President Trump, VSG is milking this “muh Russia” for all its worth. Think how much he can get done while everyone focuses on the drama he creates with his tweets about it. Meanwhile jobless claims have not been this low since 1969.

My thought is that we will have to wait till Feb 2025 to find out all that has taken place when he releases his book, “The Art of MAGA”

There are some interesting overlaps between this story and the Comey letter to Congress. I happen to buy into a theory that actually comes from a ranting and raving leftist lunatic but actually makes a lot of sense (minus his conclusion), Seth Abramson (sp?) is who I saw first present the idea. We know now that McCabe was aware of the Weiner laptop for weeks. It seems likely that he was attempting to sit on it until after the election. So what forced them to re-open the investigation?

Abramson’s theory is that there were stories popping up describing all kinds of horrific things on this laptop that supposedly was found by NYPD. McCabe knew that he couldn’t dispute these stories without admitting that the laptop existed so he was left with no choice but disclose to Comey the existence of Weiner’s laptop. This makes a lot of sense to me since any credible news story that might have revealed the existence of the laptop would instantly lend credibility to these salacious stories. If those “fake news” sites knew about the laptop before the MSM who later confirmed it then their reporting of the contents of the laptop would be given a lot more credibility. It was a massive risk with the election only a few weeks away.

This matches my memory of events rather neatly. I remember the stories that were popping up. They included some implications that there was a laptop with seriously horrific pornographic images with Clinton involved. The stories seemed rather far-fetched and “fake newsish” but they were being spread like wildfire. One of the outlets I distinctly remember was True Pundit. They struck me as an odd mix of fairly credible inside information and rather salacious stories. It turns out that McCabe was very much aware of True Pundit and knew that they really did have inside information (he referred to their source as a “heavyweight” in an email to Comey). McCabe was being played by a white hat who knew he could leak whatever stories he wanted because McCabe could not dispute the stories without revealing the existence of the laptop. This story about his conflict of interest was likely another bit of leverage they were using to force him to expose the laptop. The timing is too coincidental (Oct 23-24) for it not to be related in my opinion.

When you include the final impact that the Comey letter to Congress had on the election it really exposes how critical each event was to the outcome of a Trump victory. The white hat in the FBI (most assume in the NY office) that was exposing this may well have been another unsung hero just like Mike Rogers that turned the tide at an extremely critical time.

Thomas Paine of True Pundit is much like Sundance. He is always proven right eventually. Difference is that T. Paine is more hot headed and does not explain himself anywhere nearly as well as Sundance does. I highly recommend following True Pundit, though. Also Q dropped that Thomas Paine was to be trusted, and I think that has given him some more sources. He claimed he had 6 new sources within FBI not too long ago.

We at CTH following closely seem to have (uneasily) resigned ourselves to two frustrating, unalterable facts: correcting criminal conduct of this magnitude (1) takes time and (2) must remain largely secret. We’ve even learned to keep our blood pressure down while the MSM does its thing, following bread crumbs for assurance that this LONG road leads ultimately to justice.

But let’s take stock for a moment: we are nearly two years into massive, Shakespearean-level corruption, and the white hats actually already have SUCCEEDED. Their admirable use of institutional mechanisms and divided powers has worked; already, enough of the plot has been revealed that its existence is undeniable. There already is enough irrefutable information on the record and out in the open for every American to KNOW (not wonder, speculate, or wait for more information) that our political leadership and players in the intelligence community have been able to use the levers of state power and unchecked spheres of influence to ruin or protect lives at discretion, and with broad enough complicity to act with impunity. We dangle in “wait until it all comes out” mode but we don’t need to. Enough is out to confidently draw conclusions. What we know is nothing short of the fact that every citizen is imperiled, and every state act suspect. One need not be targeted to be subjugated: the mere fact of this power means we live without liberty.

The longer the black hats succeed in peddling their counter-narrative — the longer that lies are allowed to pervade unchecked, without consequence, over and over gain, day after day — the greater the likelihood that there is no “end” to all this. No final, definitive day of reckoning. What enables the cover-up isn’t just widespread participation but amnesia and constant motion, disinterest in settling the record. Even journalists ostensibly following the actual thread of malfeasance are dim, or flat out wrong, on details. When there is no real-time correction or consequence for shameless, bald-face lying and distortion, or even complacent “fuzziness” on facts, how is ANY revelation of truth supposed to finally set things right? How is the full story ever, finally, to be told?

I don’t see how we are careening toward anything but unfathomable crisis. Never until now did I imagine that the “information divide” in our country could be so total and unbridgeable on something so massive and consequential–and that the VERIFIABLE TRUTH on something which strikes to the core of a functioning democracy could be a matter of so little interest.

My sense is that Mueller indictments of ONLY RUSSIANS who will never be brought to trial is meant to permanently inoculate the public from the truth. The indictments by design can never be tested; with the “collusion” angle now (quietly) dropped, the MSM has a comfortable fall-back for being wrong for more than a year: the indictments are the easy talking point, the bald cover for a pivot to the narrative that all of the hysteria was justified BECAUSE RUSSIA. And the MSM can continue to insinuate that even if unproven, TRUMP MUST HAVE DONE SOMETHING. This absurd story will provide cover for every truth revelation yet to come. Meanwhile, the establishment in both parties will ensure that any “big” revelation happens quickly amidst confusion and with as few indictments as possible. They will help make it go away as quickly and with as little spectacle as possible. Some acting with nefarious motives; some simply because they fear for our country and wish to preserve “faith in our institutions.”

The lie surrounding the DNC/Podesta hack seems to be one with potential to unravel everything. But it would require more than proof of the true source of the leaks (b/c proof is always just “proof”)–it would require high-level and high-profile confessions on the Russia cover-up scheme. Unlike the many players and moving pieces in the dossier scheme, the DNC/Podesta scheme is comparatively simple, but the likely truth would be devastating.

That is why I think if nothing else the Mueller probe HAD to produce indictments on Russian meddling and the email hacks, in particular. As long as those stories stay alive, the chips may fall but their impact can be mitigated, papered over, reduced to a comfortable story of “over-zealous bureaucrats who maybe crossed lines but were trying to protect the country.” An outright assault on the will of the people and the demands of justice will be spun into patriotic fever because, after all (they will say)–weren’t we all shocked and fearful about Russia’s unprecedented interference in our democracy?

That the country waits on a reckoning with bitterly clashing convictions of what must be done portends real danger. Restoration of justice for one side means for the other side that the demons of evil and corruption have prevailed. Or perhaps the even greater risk is justice for neither side, but instead perpetual motion, repetition of the same: waiting, drip, drip, always more we don’t see and can’t know, until eventually events will change the focus onto the next thing. Lather, rinse, repeat. The bureaucratic machinery of the state keeps churning in service of the status quo. Meanwhile, we all know something’s got to give. I don’t know what it looks like to come out on the other side of this.

My point has nothing to do with “giving up.” Not sure what the “/ sarc” is all about here. I took a lot of time to write a careful comment. I appreciate this forum, but find this sort of response discouraging.

I appreciated your comment, and agree, especially with this sentiment:

Never until now did I imagine that the “information divide” in our country could be so total and unbridgeable on something so massive and consequential–and that the VERIFIABLE TRUTH on something which strikes to the core of a functioning democracy could be a matter of so little interest.

But I have come to the conclusion that a large part of the mass indoctrination going on, as well as *some* of the “counter” intelligence snippets of red meat which are offered, are for the express purpose of making sure that, if and when THE TRUTH does ever come out, that it can be massaged and the impact ameliorated. If people don’t know what or whom to believe anymore, then nothing can be believed.

Putin’s latest Kim Jong Un-like threat is also very interesting in its timing. Putin has no reason to like Trump. Trump and his generals are outmaneuvering and whipping Putin’s butt all over the globe. Energy, military, everything.

Democrats and the “quickest draw in the West”. Accuse your enemy of what you are doing before he has a chance to accuse you.

Perhaps they believe that the most effective thing they can accomplish in the near term is timing info to win the midterms……. maybe they are less interested in truth and transparency than in seats and power.

I agree with you, the Mueller investigation is as much to investigate Trump, as it is to prevent investigation of the FBI/DOJ/DNC/Clinton machine during the run-up to the election. That, combed with a biased media that wants to steer the conversation back to Trump, will do anything to reinforce the Russia Did It All narrative.

Angry Bernie supporter Seth Rich, IT Director for the DNC, dumping Podesta’s email account on a flash drive, hand-off to WikiLeaks, murdered, no Russians, CloudStrike cover-up. That’s a HUGE departure from the party line that has been pushed for the last 2 years, and unfortunately nearly unprovable. Unless an insider squeals.

“Enough of the plot has been revealed that it’s existence is undeniable”. I had to stop and weigh that. I have seen no proof whatsoever to even know what the plot is. Lots of analysis, lots of talking heads, lots of political accusations (both ways), but nothing official. Even the claims that FISA app was misleading. Was it?

Relax everybody. Fake-media is telling everyone that President Trump is very angry with Jeff Sessions. Wanted to fire him. A couple weeks ago nobody knew who IG Horowitz was. President Trump sent a tweet complaining to Sessions that Horowitz is an Obama guy. Do something! DISGRACEFUL. The media went wall-to-wall saying President Trump hates Horowitz. The media says Horowitz is a good man. Pieces are in place, not much longer to wait.

whoever Trump hates, the Swamp defends. Remember how they all wanted Comey fired over how he reopened the Hillary “matter.” bc they thought that lost her the election. But once Trump fired him, they suddenly loved him and thought him an honorable man. So Trump takes advantage of this. He creates faux feud between him and AG Sessions. The swamp comes to defend him and some and even some uninitiated Trump supporters jump on the Sessions bashing frenzy. The Swamp days, you better not fire Sessions or we’ll impeach you for obstruction. Meanwhile Mr. Sessions methodically goes about his work behind the scenes building solid cases and draining the Swamp slowly but steadily )just head over to the official DoJ website to see all the banks that have been successfully prosecuted for laundering drug cartel money for example). One day everyone will wake up to see the sun shining and a perp parade out their window and we will laugh in amazement at how Trump and Sessions had us all fooled into thinking AG Sessions was asleep at the wheel. And President Trump will say, “Sorry to keep you waiting folks — complicated business!

I understand that the MSM is willing to go down the rabbit hole with their collusion delusion, but Mueller? After all, the MSM sees itself above repute and not likely to suffer legal consequences while it attempts to change public opinion in advance of the midterms. Unless Mueller really has something in the wings on Trump why would he want to take a dive? Can anyone explain this to me?

The Rosey/Mueller strategy may be to keep the cloud hanging over Trump until the Dems win the House and shut down the HPSCI inquires when Schiff takes over Nunes Chairmanship. They are protecting themselves (Uranium One), their buddies, and former bosses.

Don’t see why it matters. There’s no collusion. The coup d’etat failed. but just like at 17:00 on 08 Nov. 2016 they were so sure the Evil Queen would win. Then they were so sure they had a fool proof plan to bring President Trump down (insurance plan). They had the perfect plan. Turns out they didn’t.

Despite Mueller’s registering as a republican at some time in the past, his official actions show him to be a deep state liberal.
I think he is considered a hero in his social circles for his attempting to take down Trump. He sees no downside. He will be a hero for trying, or a hero for accomplishing it.

“The inspector general has concluded that Mr. McCabe authorized F.B.I. officials to provide information for that article, according to the four people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the report before it is published.”

So. The IG report on Fibbies leaking to the media has been leaked to the media?

Leaking is a way if life in the D.C. Swampland. All media sources are leakers. Every single one of them. Leaks are designed to manipulate and condition public opinion via compliant media outlets. /Captain Obvious.
It can only be controlled by sending every leaker of classified info to jail. Haven’t happened yet and never will.

From The Hill: Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team is reportedly investigating whether Trump adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner’s foreign business activity had any impact on the Trump administration’s policies, according to NBC News.

I am praying, PRAYING HARD, that you Sessions fans are right about him. It’s hard to watch this go on and on. I suppose I should be more patient because we’ve been winning a lot, but I think everyone’s #1 goal is for the criminals to be prosecuted and convicted and I’m just not seeing any comforting signs that that’s going to happen. I do hope I’m wrong. But at least I’ve got it a lot better than the people on the other side because they have been losing left and right since mid 2015. 🙂

Then I find this interview done the same week, with Aspen Insitute (a supposedly non-partisan liberal-funded multi-million dollar international think thank), covered by MSNBC, back when he wasn’t in the limelight.

1) He is very concerned with domestic terrorism, aka homegrown violent extremists, or HVE’s.

2) He doesn’t seem all that concerned with encryption (specifically calling out end-to-end), which is interesting in light of the recent announcements of gov. involvement in the TOR networks

3) Throws out the term Title III, generally known today as the Wiretap Act.

ANDREW McCABE: The perfusion of telephonic communications, you see a clear connection to the development of Title III authority. So we are at another one of those watershed moments where we have to decide as a nation where do we want to strike ‑‑

4) Discussion on how to identify foreign hackers, the forensic tools that might be used, vs. what you are allowed to expose to a court:

ANDREW McCABE: I don’t know that we have a system where we have to prove it in court to be able to name any party that may have been involved in a hack. And that’s what we were talking about briefly this morning, the difference between an assessment and kind of a forensic conclusion.

5) And dances around the issue of Russian hacking.

ANDREW McCABE: Well, I can’t really comment on the activity that most folks believe included Russian involvement. But it is not ‑‑ it’s not without precedent. Obviously you mentioned Sony. The indictment of the five ‑‑ three L.A. officers, probably another great example. We’ve had other cases that I think fit that same mold in the last couple years. So that’s out there. That’s in the kind of realm of the possible.

WALTER ISAACSON: But in the case of the Russians, say, might it be that you know for pretty much sure but you don’t want to have to prove it in court, but we have a system where you have to prove it in court if we’re going to name the Russians?

ANDREW McCABE: I don’t know that we have a system where we have to prove it in court to be able to name any party that may have been involved in a hack. And that’s what we were talking about briefly this morning, the difference between an assessment and kind of a forensic conclusion.

And so our role in that whole of government approach is to drive towards that forensic conclusion. Whether you’re going to then take it to court and indict somebody and try to prove a case or you’re just going to be able to say publicly, “Here’s who we feel strongly is responsible.”

Aside from both of those alternatives, you have the assessment which can be based on many different things. It is very different to be able to say that the United States government feels with some degree of confidence that a particular state actor was involved. That assessment could be based both on the forensics, which might get you close but not all the way, but it may also be based on other intelligence collection streams that you have. And so there are sort of different levels of attribution that you may be able to do at any given time.

I’m in information overload as all of this plays out. it’s obvious to me the elite demon rats knew they were gonna loose the election to Trump (there was no surprise) and when it became a reality they immediately the devised “1 term insurance policy”: 1) Hire SC Mueller to destroy Trump, his family, and his teammates for as long as possible “legally”, 2) Stop Trump appointments via Congress 3) Insure Trump policies never see light of day via Congress 4) Sway Independent voters to support demon party via MSM hate speech, lies, and demonstrations 5) Find/define next Lucifer candidate for Demon Party

As you can see, Trump seems to be holding his own against the SC for the time being but whether justice will prevail is overly worrisome since Sessions want unrecuse himself and do his damn job and end it and start prosecuting. Congress is winning the battle of appointments and will never pass the MAGA agenda unless we the voters change congress. MSM hate/lies will never stop unless we shut them down ourselves and government sues/prosecutes them out of business. Our country and MAGA agenda is at stake here. I say instead of reaching for the popcorn organize your own State(s) MAGA agenda and MAGA candidates (e.g. reps/senators) to lead your state and send to Washington to bleed off the corruption. We have a great leader in Trump but we must help him in 2018. If we don’t we loose!

Sundance, Thank You for this Refugee and your awesome information and patriotism! We need more Americans like you!

One thing that “the peoples” have done the last couple of years that has helped a little is to cut the cord. If you still have cable or satellite you are helping to support the MSM lies. It turns out most of us don’t miss it. Also, don’t support the advertisers of the MSM liars. And tell them why you no longer support them.

“It is now clear that the warning signs were there and tips to the FBI were missed. We see the tragic consequences of those failures.

“The FBI in conjunction with our state and local partners must act flawlessly to prevent all attacks. This is imperative…

This includes more than just an error review but also a review of how we respond. This will include possible consultation with family members, mental health officials, school officials, and local law enforcement.…

[bullet list of action items]

….This list should not be considered exhaustive.…

250 Feebs, 31 ATF agents, 8 US Marshalls and U.S. Attorney Benjamin Greenberg plus three Assistant US Attorneys to look into the shooting when they already have nutty Cruz caught?? I wonder what ELSE AG Sessions is looking into HMMMMmmmm???

U.S. Attorney Benjamin Greenberg was just appointed by AG Sessions BTW. link“[…] Mr. Greenberg …. has handled a wide variety of complex, challenging, and high-profile white collar, violent crime, narcotics, and organized crime cases. He was the lead prosecutor in a series of significant cases against various Israeli organized crime figures extradited to the United States. In recognition of these efforts, Mr. Greenberg received a national award from the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force. Mr. Greenberg was also part of the trial team that prosecuted the President and Chief Executive Officer of a well-known financial institution for securities and bank fraud arising from a complex international accounting fraud scheme.[…]”

The Cowards of Broward county may be in for a world of hurt in the near future.

Would be nice if our USAG could somehow manage to stand up for the Constitution.

United States Constitution – Article VI, Paragraph 2:

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the Supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every state shall be bound thereby, any thing in the Constitution or Laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.

I am hoping the DOJ goes after a lot more of these corrupt judges, attorneys and politicians.

February 5, 2018
Press Release
Texas Judge Arrested and Charged With Bribery
A Texas state district court judge has been arrested on allegations he accepted approximately $6,000 in cash….

February 21, 2018
Press Release
Former Arkansas State Judge Sentenced to Prison for Dismissing Cases in Exchange for Personal Benefits and Tampering With a Witness
A former Arkansas state judge was sentenced to five years in prison for perpetrating a seven-year-long

January 24, 2018
Press Release
Former Contractor at Military Sealift Command Pleads Guilty to Conspiracy, Bribery, and Honest Services Fraud

I’m pretty confident now that everything will be swept under the rug.. I had some hopes before but I wasn’t aware Rosensteins wife represented all of the accused for many years. So we have an obviously compromised Rosenstein playing overseer in not only the Mueller Russia collusion investigation but also playing middle man between Congress and the IG. More or less that means 100% coverup of all.That’s all that’s being done.. They are leaking minor details letting everyone know of the crimes uncovered, everyone stomps their feet, cries foul play and when the report actually comes out you already know what’s in it so there’s nothing more to complain about. No one gets arrested, Washington goes back to their criminal conduct as usual.

Why don’t you go make your bet with some Sessions doubters that have real money
(Lou Dobbs, Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity, Tom Fitton, Chris Farrell, Jason Chaffetz, Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows)? All of them have called for Sessions to resign or be fired on national television. Oh, and there’s someone named Donald Trump who doesn’t seem real happy with Mr. Session either. Maybe he will take your bet. Otherwise please leave us peons at CTH alone to express our opinions even though they disagree with yours. That is what discussion boards are for.

To be sure Rosenstein keeps me up at night. This is a coup. It is on going. He might be on their side he might be on our side but maybe he is on his own side. We have no idea who holds what cards. Right now people are digging looking for pieces looking for leverage. Someone in the deep state might own him right now. Someone trying to drain the swamp might find something that will change that over night. We don’t know. There is a lot of stuff going on that we don’t know and you know what ? There have been many times in the last few years that when there seems to be real progress in an investigation someone drops a barbell on their neck or double taps the back of their head with a gun or gets shot in the back during a robbery. It happened. Weather or not those things are related it creates an ominous atmosphere at the very least.

Daniel says:“Again I have to point out that Sessions should be recused and even excused because it’s not just “muh Russia” that had been going on. It’s the fact that he was HARMED by being target of Obama’s domestic spying activities……”
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Oldschool replies:“One can argue, with great legitimacy, the need for JS recusal, however the fact that he did not disclose this to POTUS prior to accepting his position in TRUMP’s administration or prior to actually making his decision and announcement is enough reason for me to have suspicion about JS.”
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The recusal was forced upon AG Sessions during his confirmation hearings. Given the Feebs spying on ALL of the Trump transition team via Carter Page and the Three Hop Rule, ANYONE under consideration by President Trump would also be forced to recuse. You can be darn sure the DemonRats would have known WHO was going to be tapped, thanks to the physical listening devices allowed under Title I and seen to it a tame Russian managed to taint the person as Russian Ambassador Kislyak did AG Sessions and Natalia Veselnitskaya did Don Jr.

During the course of the confirmation proceedings on my nomination to be Attorney General, I advised the Senate Judiciary Committee that ‘[i]f a specific matter arose where I believed my impartiality might reasonably be questioned, I would consult with Department ethics officials regarding the most appropriate way to proceed.

During the course of the last several weeks, I have met with the relevant senior career Department officials to discuss whether I should recuse myself from any matters arising from the campaigns for President of the United States.

Having concluded those meetings today, I have decided to recuse myself from any existing or future investigations of any matters related in any way to the campaigns for President of the United States.

I have taken no actions regarding any such matters, to the extent they exist.

This announcement should not be interpreted as confirmation of the existence of any investigation or suggestive of the scope of any such investigation.

Consistent with the succession order for the Department of Justice, Acting Deputy Attorney General and U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia Dana Boente shall act as and perform the functions of the Attorney General with respect to any matters from which I have recused myself to the extent they exist.”

We want justice and we want it yesterday. Easy for us to say what to do but I really believe that when your life style and your life is on the line it changes things. The stakes are high for all of us. We know these people have been selling the USA out. They won’t go quickly or quietly. Pray for our side.

“Citing four people familiar with the IG inquiry, the motive for the New York Times is transparent.”

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Sorry, that’s not good enough, if they didn’t name the sources. The NYT has made up too much, for too long. The Old Gray Harlot doesn’t have the kind of credibility necessary to get by on ‘unnamed sources’. Not even close. The NYT is to credibility as psychopathy is to empathy.

So either they identify their sources by NAME, or the presumption is they are lying.

It’s not complicated.

So do they identify the magic ‘sources’, or not?

“The unnamed officials within the back-story…”

No need to read a word further.

In fact, reading any further is like taking the brown acid at Woodstock. It’s hazardous to your understanding of reality and it will make you sick.

This NYT story is fairly typical battefield-shaping behavior. The IG report really is coming out — the very existence of the NYT story tells us that — and they want to be able to treat it as old news. “Oh yeah, we already covered that; that’s the report that faulted McCabe for leaking to the media.” There could be fifteen murders, an attempted coup, and a plan to burn down the Capitol in there, and the NYT will claim it’s all about “leaking to the media.”

““Citing four people familiar with the IG inquiry, the motive for the New York Times is transparent.”

I have two dogs and two cats. I am certain that they are familiar with the IG inquiry as I have inadvertently left the TV on at inopportune times. I try to be more selective to what they are exposed to on TV.

They have been acting suspiciously lately and there is the matter of that unexplained long distance phone charge for a call to New York. I wish the NYT would name their sources so I’ll know whether or not to put them to bed with their usual treat.