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Interesting contrast between the coverage the Times gives the Kochs, who are honest business people on the wrong political side in the Times' view, and Jon Corzine, who is an outright crook who stole over a billion dollars from small investors and exemplifies everything the Times claims to hate. The cover Corzine when they have to and the Kochs nearly incessantly and always negatively.

It makes him look weak and pathetic, as President, to "strike back" at a couple of people nobody would have heard of had they not been made the latest Emmanuel Goldsteins of the American coffee house left.

There have been a growing number of reasons to look back and appreciate GW Bush's good qualities. That he didn't do anything like this is one of them.

The other irony about the Kochs is that they spend something like $15 million a year on political projects. Soros in contrasts spends ten or twenty times that. Yet the Kochs are secretive billionaires running the world. They sure do get a lot of bang for their buck.

I think it is more (without deniability) intended to stir up conspiracy theories about "wreckers and counter revolutionaries" and such. They left has been murdering people under such pretenses since 1789 in Paris. And they have killed a lot more people than even anti-Semites have during that time.

I read Cedarford's comments (that's my only familiarity w/ anti-semites), and I haven't noticed any "secretive....billionaires" rants. Cedarford doesn't seem to be billionaire focused in his rants. He's equally against non-billionaire and billionaire Jews.

The President of the United States campaigning against secretive billionaires is just pathetic.

Come on. This is the guy who had campaign buddies get his opponents divorce records unsealed when he was but a Senate-wannabe. We all know that as president, he can uncover any "secrets" about the Kochs he wants to.

Does it make good sense (politically) to attack the Koch brothers this early in the campaign? Or is this a sign of desperation? I'm asking because I'm not sure what the Obama wants to accomplish with this ad. Discrediting the Kochs doesn't seem like it accomplishes much. What am I missing here?

How can that be? The White House is the ultimate secret lair. It's got bunkers, footballs that can destroy the world, interns delivering pizza at all hours, and back door garbage that's been blessed by the Dalai Lama. Hell, I bet it's even got sharks with freakin' laser beams attached to their heads.

I have trouble believing anything the man says, even in a political ad, so it has no effect on me. I thought it was weak. The anti-Obama ad was better. And the reference to not relying on foreign oil seems a particularly bald lie given his recent Keystone Pipeline decision.

I've encountered people who seem anti-semitic but are actually equal opportunity offenders, they insult every ethnicity equally - even their own. I suspect Obama is similar, either you support him or your an evil (fill in appropriate slur here).

For my own part, I thought the OWS obsession with secretive banking billionaires crossed into anti-semitism much more obviously than the Obama's complaints about secretive oil billionaires.

Oil makes you think of Texas, but secretive Texans doesn't work as a meme. Maybe it's those secretive Norwegians we should be worried about, doing all that drilling and awarding all those prizes. In secret.

The point being that the key word is "secretive." That word invokes conspiracy. Every word after that is just a pebble on the path into the bog. And the grand Western conspiracy tied to with money is not about Norwegians.

No anti-Semitism here. Nothing to see.From a web site called "savethemales"---------------------------------

Bloomberg News has a story today on how the Zionist Koch brothers bankrolled the campaigns of Governors (like Scott Walker) who are cutting union powers.--------------------------------Mayer neglects to mention that the Koch's are Jews or crypto Jews; instead she tries to give them a "goy gloss." --------------------------------The real story is that Jane Meyer works for another Illuminati Jewish billionaire, publisher Sam Newhouse. Her job is to create the illusion of free democratic discourse. Between the Sam Newhouses and George Soros' on the Left, and the Koch's and the Rupert Murdochs on the Right, a dozen Illuminati (Masonic) Jewish billionaires are able to define political discourse in America.

Hagar, I am not seriously saying all the looney lefties are Jew haters. Mostly illustrating how easy it is to cast your political opponents in that way. Just as the left keeps saying all Republicans are racist, the right can do the same and try to portray the conspiracy theory fans on the left as anti-Semitic but cherry picking a very small number of wackos who really are, and portraying everyone like that.

The president's counter-ad is pretty weak. Loudly trying to support the green energy business is a losing path to take. Most people think it is a load of crap and wont' be impressed with the stats he apparently believes compelling.

The Koch ad is powerful and does not lend itself to rebuttal. The Koch's themselves are unknown to nearly all Americans other than a few in-the-know lefties who go ape shit at the mention of their names. Their investments are mostly rock solid, they directly employ over 50K people, they are active in their communities. They do not share the political philosophy of the residents of Madison, however, which makes them evil indeed.

It is quite difficult to be secretive when you own companies like Georgia-Pacific. Very hard to hide.

You know, that is really good advice, Scott. It is easily overlooked. Especially when you are photographing food as you are preparing it.

There could be a smudge that doesn't show in the tiny viewfinder, and the live view doesn't go through the lens, and it will be too late before you learn the whole session is ruined. And that would be really sad, if such an odd thing might actually happen to some special somebody somewhere.

There could be a smudge that doesn't show in the tiny viewfinder, and the live view doesn't go through the lens, and it will be too late before you learn the whole session is ruined. And that would be really sad, if such an odd thing might actually happen to some special somebody somewhere.

The ad lies bigtime. There is no credible evidence oroof that Obama has created 2.7 million clean energy jobs. That is a flatout lie. In fact,the entire country does not have 2.7 million clean energy jobs.

The ad lies bigtime. There is no credible evidence oroof that Obama has created 2.7 million clean energy jobs.

The ad doesn't state he *created* 2.7 million clean energy jobs, it just implied it. The actual cited source is on the internet and it state that they estimate that there *are* about 2.7 million "clean sector" jobs, the bulk of which are relatively mundane things like bus drivers and recycling center workers. Renewable energy jobs are a tiny portion of these.

You are correct, sir. I should've known that you would've been all over that one.

There's a corporation in Eve Online named Sharks With Freakin Laser Beams. Their stock ticker is, I believe, SFLB. Sure, it's funny and hysterical and all, but being on the receiving end of one of their fleets isn't much fun.

That response ad was terrible...terrible. Nothing the Obama administration has done has lead to the decreased dependence on foreign oil. The economy is collapsing, while domestic resources on land the Feds have little control over are being explored(e.g. North Dakota's Bakken field). In fact, the Feds have been seen hindering local domestic oil production by slamming down on off-shore oil drilling in the gulf.

Anyway...the topper is all of the solar panels shown in the Obama ad are NOT Solyndra panels.

I have wonder about you non-loony, police state loving, gay hating, nation building, freedom hating, people who want to lock up all the pot smokers. While I disagree with you on all those issues, I am impressed that you admit to all that.