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Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

He screwed up against by getting involved in the thread and making an inane statement. Now he'll spend the rest of his time here playing dodge.

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Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

Originally Posted by Excon

If there was a law requiring such you may have a point.

Otherwise no.
No such responsibility exists.

A gun is a tool.
Just as a pencil is.
So if he had gotten a hold of her pencil and stabbed people in the neck and they died, should she be sued because she didn't better secure her pencil?
A hammer? A screw driver?
A butcher knife?

The concept is abhorrent.

This is unreasonable. A gun is a specific kind of tool - a weapon - and by design it is meant to kill. A hammer can be used to kill but that is not its design difference.

Would you leave a loaded firearm on your kitchen table and invite a bunch of complete strangers in? How about a pencil? They are different and must be treated differently.

Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

This is unreasonable. A gun is a specific kind of tool - a weapon - and by design it is meant to kill. A hammer can be used to kill but that is not its design difference.

Would you leave a loaded firearm on your kitchen table and invite a bunch of complete strangers in? How about a pencil? They are different and must be treated differently.

No it isn't unreasonable.
Trying to sue his mothers estate is unreasonable.
She is not responsible for his actions. He is.
It doesn't matter one bit if her guns were out. He took what wasn't his to take. He stole from her. That is on him, not her.

To take this even further to it's absurd conclusion ...
[sarcasm]Hell her estate should be sued for bringing him into the world in the first place. But not for that, this would never had happened.[/sarcasm]

Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

Originally Posted by Summerwind

I've always said the problem with conservatives is that they think the world revolves around simple math as you present here. Truth is, the world revolves around complex algebra with many variables. A gun is not the same as pencils. Taking an unsecured gun from a parent, is not stealing in the same way that stealing is usually considered, and so on. Simple math might make y'all feel better about your ignorance of reality, but it's still ignorance of reality nonetheless.

Yea, it's theft, and it is illegal.

Try again.

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Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

Originally Posted by spud_meister

Maybe people with Autism should be banned.

No, mentally challenged individuals should not be banned; however, the people around them should be more cautious. Why would an intelligent mother leave guns within the reach of a young insecure son? Now I realize not all people with Aspergers Syndrome which is what Adam Lanza had, are violent, and most are decent and sometimes unusually bright, above average even, still, I think it was wrong of the mother to be surrounded by such weapons, especially a weapon that can kill so many in one shooting without reloading

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