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Political correctness...
When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity.
To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control...TD

Can I assume you are being sarcastic? Or just very very optimistic? So far, NY Federal Courts have not been friendly to 2A rights, and are far more likely to follow the Ninth Circuit's lead in Peruta that there is no right to carry a concealed firearm. Since the Supreme court turned down Peruta, absent some change in the composition of the court by the time this case reaches it in a few years, there is a limited probability that they will accept another case raising the same issue, notwithstanding that the D.C. opinion creates a circuit split.

SCOTUS ruling on gun rights is starting to feel a lot like the abortion shell game. If the dog actually catches the car, the politicians won't be able to sell this argument to single issue voters anymore.

Something not mentioned is that the restrictions on a NY carry license are administrative only and completely arbitrary. My county offers the following pistol licenses: Full Carry, Retired PO Full Carry, Employment, Hunting, Target, Sportsperson. As well as several premise license options.

You can apply for as many as you like and the issuing judge decides which restrictions, if any, apply to you. Mr. Nash has a valid carry license. As long as he carries where legal he is not breaking any laws.

If a police officer were to discover Mr. Nash carrying outside of the printed restrictions, he will not be arrested (for that offense). There is a possibility that the officer notifies the issuing judge, they get upset, and the license is revoked.

This would result in Mr. Nash being forced to surrender all of his handguns. In NY, a carry (or premise) license is required to own a handgun. He would effectively lose his 2A rights without breaking any laws or being arrested.

I believe that this is where NY gun laws are most vulnerable. NY is may issue, however a permit is required to KEEP a handgun, not just to bear. Heller is quite clear with respect to keeping arms. Unfortunately, this is not what is being challenged.

SCOTUS ruling on gun rights is starting to feel a lot like the abortion shell game. If the dog actually catches the car, the politicians won't be able to sell this argument to single issue voters anymore.

This would result in Mr. Nash being forced to surrender all of his handguns. In NY, a carry (or premise) license is required to own a handgun. He would effectively lose his 2A rights without breaking any laws or being arrested.

According to the NYSP SAFE act enforcement guidelines, if a permit holder has his pistol permit revoked, he/she has to surrender ALL if his/her firearms. Long guns included. Nobody is exactly sure where the SAFE act says this, but it is spelled out clearly in the guidelines for the New York State police.

This turns a pistol permit that can be arbitrarily granted or revoked by a judge without due process into a big liability for gun owners. As far as I know nobody has had this happen to them yet, but gun owners who have been paying attention are a bit concerned about it. The SAFE Act and everything associated with it is in flagrant violation of the constitution.

If a licensee at any time becomes ineligible to hold a license, the license is considered to be revoked under an amendment to PL 400.00 (11). In such case, the person is required to surrender his or her license to the appropriate licensing official and any and all firearms, rifles or shotguns owned or possessed by the person must be surrendered to a law enforcement agency.

(c) In any instance in which a person's license is suspended or
revoked under paragraph (a) or (b) of this subdivision, such person
shall surrender such license to the appropriate licensing official and
any and all firearms, rifles, or shotguns owned or possessed by such
person shall be surrendered to an appropriate law enforcement agency as
provided in subparagraph (f) of paragraph one of subdivision a of
section 265.20 of this chapter. In the event such license, firearm,
shotgun, or rifle is not surrendered, such items shall be removed and
declared a nuisance and any police officer or peace officer acting
pursuant to his or her special duties is authorized to remove any and
all such weapons.

Hope that helps.

Last edited by TrappedinCalifornia; 02-09-2018 at 8:28 AM..
Reason: Fixed omission for clarity