tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post7862563716072861147..comments2015-07-30T17:05:02.956-07:00Comments on HARDCORE ZEN: NAKED HAPPINESSBrad Warnernoreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-28207098752920364272013-06-28T11:57:55.581-07:002013-06-28T11:57:55.581-07:00So how does one practice? Practicing sucks. Any in...So how does one practice? Practicing sucks. Any insights into how one can develop habits? How about developing a habit with regards to the article cited in this blog post...=]Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08878303383307715535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-86981904507619560702010-04-16T15:22:06.379-07:002010-04-16T15:22:06.379-07:00To Backbone @6:36
Yes this is true, enlightenment...To Backbone @6:36<br /><br />Yes this is true, enlightenment is a balanced ANS.<br /><br />So anyway me and my dog come home yesterday around 5pm and start noticing some weird shit. golf stick and hockey stick lying on the floor, curtains dangling , dirty windows and walls, and a pile of weird shit on the window sill and floor. The paw prints look pretty big. this is some kind of giant rodent, squirrel or raccoon. My dog is curious and sniffing around but not frightened or anxious. I&#39;m thinking this critter either found a way out or is dead somewhere. move cautiously around the house, more destruction in the back room, upstairs intact. Decide I best clean up the shit before I go sit with my zen group. My dog seems comfortable lying on the couch as I go out the door, so I feel OK leaving. But I know I have to discover how this critter got in the house and how he may have gotten out. During sitting, thoughts keep popping about how I will discover the entry point but considering the circumstances my ANS was 8 or 9 lol. So I head home, dog is AOK normal, eat a little, head cautiously upstairs to continue my investigation . Holy shit, the front panel on the whirlpool tub is popped open and a towel is sticking out of it. How could I have not noticed this earlier. Now answers are appearing - maybe critter gets in from basement crawls up in the plumbing spaces and pops out from the tub. I bang the cover back on but feel a little anxious cause this is not something Mighty Mouse could pop open. All&#39;s quiet and I fall to sleep. Don&#39;t know what time it was but I&#39;m awake and something is walking around and making scratching sounds in the attic or eaves. I feel pretty confident &#39;it&#39; won&#39;t try to get back to the inside of the house because it must know me and my dog are here, I hope. Anyway my sleep is seriously interrupted. In the morning my mind is pointed in one direction - find the entry point and block it. Hopefully the critter left the building, if not I can put a trap in the attic/eaves. I go outside and whata u know - the gable vent is broken open - Eureka! The handyman comes and seals the vents. I hope the critter left last night so I don&#39;t have to do the trap thing. Tonight I will do an all night sitting - just listening for the critter or not.Richhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06825454951290155337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-13885869896671167002010-04-15T19:00:11.628-07:002010-04-15T19:00:11.628-07:00While I don&#39;t know Anon, it&#39;s my belief - ...<i>While I don&#39;t know Anon, it&#39;s my belief - my hope - that s/he was being sarcastic, as in &quot;could you be any more hurtful than to imply neo-advatin = non-Buddhist?!&quot; For these doctrinal distinctions shouldn&#39;t matter.</i><br /><br />Yes a joke. But the doctrinal distinctions do matter at a certain point. But that wasn&#39;t the point of my joke. The point of my joke was just to be funny. I should know better than to try that on a blog comments section on the internet. (seriously)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-37994387068460794622010-04-15T18:36:04.653-07:002010-04-15T18:36:04.653-07:00Anonymous said...
To say that posture is impo...<b> Anonymous said...<br /><br /> To say that posture is important for zazen is not the same as saying enlightenment or awareness is caused by zazen.<br /><br /> Brad and Gudo (and Dogen) do NOT say that awareness is caused by zazen.</b><br /><br />Ah, well, maybe you don&#39;t know Gudo like some know Gudo. <br /><br />Download his booklet PDF here and read from page 11 where he describes how the straight spine in the Lotus Posture balances the Autonomic Nervous System<br /><br /><a href="http://www.dogensangha.org.uk/IBPZ/IBPZ-English.pdf" rel="nofollow">Spine</a><br /><br />Then read any of his comments about how enlightenment is merely a balanced Autonomic Nervous System. Like in the first sentences of this section of his MMK translation where he says Nirvana is just a balanced ANS<br /><br />http://gudoblog-e.blogspot.com/search?q=When+the+Serene+State+of+the+Balanced+Autonomic+Nervous+System+is+this+world+totally%2C<br /><br /><i>MMK (25) Examination of Nirvana, the free and serene state. (24 verses)<br /><br />1. When the Serene State of the Balanced Autonomic Nervous System is this world totally,<br /><br />There might be no appearance actually, and there is no disappearance at all.<br /></i>Backbonenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-70775006685892287142010-04-15T18:15:23.389-07:002010-04-15T18:15:23.389-07:00Blogger Jinzang said...
&quot;Mount Sumeru.&quot;
...Blogger Jinzang said...<br />&quot;Mount Sumeru.&quot;<br /><br />There is also &quot;Obasuteyama,&quot; or &quot;<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5blmVMMxBmY" rel="nofollow">Ubasuteyama</a>,&quot; meaning &quot;Mountain for Throwing Away Grandma.&quot; <br /><br />In the 1955 novel &quot;Narayama Bushiko,&quot; like the folktale, there is the abandonment on top of a mountain of an ailing grandmother by her son. It was twice made into a movie.<br /><br />1958 &quot;<a href="http://www.filmref.com/directors/dirpages/kinoshita.html" rel="nofollow">Narayama Bushiko</a>&quot; and<br />1983 &quot;<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084390/" rel="nofollow">The Ballad of Narayama</a>&quot;Mysterionhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12649237112389489841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-46221666100347080992010-04-15T18:09:58.548-07:002010-04-15T18:09:58.548-07:00Mysterion said: &quot;I have long advocated the re...Mysterion said: &quot;I have long advocated the removal of the word &#39;hate&#39; and the concept &#39;hatred&#39; from the lexicon.&quot;<br /><br />Sounds a lot like Alfred Korzybski&#39;s &quot;General Semantics&quot; or &quot;E-Prime&quot;. Check out Robert Anton Wilson, who was influenced by zen buddhism.PhilBob-SquareHeadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02428701991819452246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-62864001687045149972010-04-15T17:57:49.137-07:002010-04-15T17:57:49.137-07:00Anon wrote: &quot;Wow, Jinz, low blow!&quot;
Jinz...Anon wrote: &quot;Wow, Jinz, low blow!&quot;<br /><br />Jinzang, perplexed, replied: &quot;How is it a low blow...?&quot;<br /><br />While I don&#39;t know Anon, it&#39;s my belief - my hope - that s/he was being sarcastic, as in &quot;could you be any more hurtful than to imply <i>neo-advatin = non-Buddhist</i>?!&quot; For these doctrinal distinctions shouldn&#39;t matter.<br /><br />If I&#39;m wrong, and anon was being humorously serious, then anon may be heaping bullshit on bullshit - and if you and I keep shoveling, Jinz, we&#39;ll soon have a pile that may dwarf Sumeru.tanivnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-49189928363866883172010-04-15T17:48:00.788-07:002010-04-15T17:48:00.788-07:00LIIILIIIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-63864554169659656682010-04-15T17:12:36.932-07:002010-04-15T17:12:36.932-07:00mice rice was a type o
my rice
although 30 years...mice rice was a type o<br /><br />my rice<br /><br />although 30 years ago, we would burn through 20 kilos of rice in a week (in our group) and we did get mice in our rice (but washed the rice, steamed it, and ate it anyway). Now we store rice in steel cans.<br /><br />The FDA has a specification for the acceptable amount insect parts and rodent hair in commercial food, by the way. (and perhaps rodent fecal matter, too... look it up)Mysterionhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12649237112389489841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-25669006870284910072010-04-15T16:58:09.168-07:002010-04-15T16:58:09.168-07:00Right now, when we&#39;ve stopped making bullshit,...<i>Right now, when we&#39;ve stopped making bullshit, is there anything else?</i><br /><br />Mount Sumeru.Jinzanghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04155467948613318531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-85684250065782498202010-04-15T16:55:37.271-07:002010-04-15T16:55:37.271-07:00Hey Brad, you can set up a google alert which will...<i>Hey Brad, you can set up a google alert which will tell you when your name is being mentioned.</i><br /><br />Not necessarily the exercise in narcissism it sounds like. He&#39;s marketing his books and using and responding to the media is a key part of that. I just did a search for &quot;Brad Warner&quot; and found this <a href="http://tinyurl.com/y62qbhg" rel="nofollow">article about his talk at Ekoji</a>. Brad could follow up by offering to do a phone interviewJinzanghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04155467948613318531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-35391097888751758892010-04-15T16:40:49.064-07:002010-04-15T16:40:49.064-07:00Wow, Jinz, low blow!
How is it a low blow if I im...<i>Wow, Jinz, low blow!</i><br /><br />How is it a low blow if I implied you were neo-advaitin or leaned towards their philosophy? What makes one better and the other worse? Reminds me of when I studied martial arts and a lot of time was spent arguing which style was best.Jinzanghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04155467948613318531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-77752069754127944332010-04-15T16:06:47.046-07:002010-04-15T16:06:47.046-07:00&quot;Less resent
Less pain&quot;
I have long adv...&quot;Less resent<br />Less pain&quot;<br /><br />I have long advocated the removal of the word &quot;hate&quot; and the concept &quot;hatred&quot; from the lexicon.<br /><br />You need not love everything. Nor do you need to like everything. It is just that, outside of hatred, everything has its place and purpose.<br /><br />You might say &quot;I really do not a prefer rare beefsteak with mice rice and vegies.&quot;<br /><br />I would avoid: &quot;I hate beef.&quot; I don&#39;t hate beef or cows or ranchers. I just choose to avoid beef in general and <a href="http://www.new-angle.org/Growing_obese.htm" rel="nofollow">BGH</a> in particular.<br /><br />Nor is it up to me (or you) to correct the beef eating habits of someone else.<br /><br />Your body is the vehicle which might carry you to your own awakening - or not. If you like a big fat SUV, go for it.<br /><br />As a child, I had a problem with being overweight. Then I cut out ALL pork and beef. Then I had less of a problem with being overweight.<br /><br />I might say: &quot;No cookies, candies, cakes, ice cream, or soda in the house!&quot;<br /><br />It falls into the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hUy9ePyo6Q" rel="nofollow">well of silence</a>.Mysterionhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12649237112389489841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-78056235914777661982010-04-15T14:37:13.870-07:002010-04-15T14:37:13.870-07:00Hi PB,
Right now, when we&#39;ve stopped making b...Hi PB,<br /><br />Right now, when we&#39;ve stopped making bullshit, is there anything else?<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Harry.Harryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05168631752214481563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-11804303272884926142010-04-15T14:32:09.201-07:002010-04-15T14:32:09.201-07:00HI GNITZ!! *waves*HI GNITZ!! *waves*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-57831488752353244222010-04-15T14:15:11.000-07:002010-04-15T14:15:11.000-07:00This, just this right now. Everything else is Bull...This, just this right now. Everything else is Bullshit.PhilBob-SquareHeadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02428701991819452246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-80961455741636264902010-04-15T13:23:35.231-07:002010-04-15T13:23:35.231-07:00Hey Brad, you can set up a google alert which will...Hey Brad, you can set up a google alert which will tell you when your name is being mentioned on the web. neat, huh?gnizhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18043750358888135458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-9059545257029358882010-04-15T12:03:18.675-07:002010-04-15T12:03:18.675-07:00neo-advatin = non-Buddhist
Wow, Jinz, low blow!neo-advatin = non-Buddhist<br /><br />Wow, Jinz, low blow!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-5037825030251754332010-04-15T09:09:20.382-07:002010-04-15T09:09:20.382-07:00... In other words, there certainly seems to be a ...... In other words, there certainly seems to be a tendency for people to reify sitting/posture and make a crude belief or ideal out of it (e.g. &quot;my sitting in this posture is realisation itself&quot;)... But the sitting that Master Dogen proposed was sitting dropping off ideas and crude beliefs about sitting, realisation/enlightenment, or whatever and, indeed, dropping off realisation, buddha, enlightenment, &#39;practice&#39; as opposed &#39;not practice&#39; etc etc etc...<br /><br />Even people who &#39;get&#39; that don&#39;t seem to get it sometimes. Master Dogen noticed that as well. Clever chap.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Harry.Harryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05168631752214481563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-91085068391827280062010-04-15T08:38:18.801-07:002010-04-15T08:38:18.801-07:00Hi, Anon.
&quot;To paraphrase Dogen, (who is refe...Hi, Anon.<br /><br /><i>&quot;To paraphrase Dogen, (who is referencing an old Chinese Chan story) you can&#39;t polish a tile to make a mirror. You don&#39;t sit to make a Buddha.&quot;</i><br /><br />He said more on the &#39;polishing a tile&#39; koan than that, including the perspective that polishing IS buddha.<br /><br />At the same time, people try to &#39;get&#39; the practice-realisation thing from the point of view of their own thinking, or some simple idea; but practice-enlightenment is not a matter of a nice, tidy little theory/idea and can&#39;t be understood in that way at all.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Harry.Harryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05168631752214481563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-7408245769604443482010-04-15T08:31:15.272-07:002010-04-15T08:31:15.272-07:00To say that posture is important for zazen is not ...To say that posture is important for zazen is not the same as saying enlightenment or awareness is caused by zazen.<br /><br />Brad and Gudo (and Dogen) do NOT say that awareness is caused by zazen.<br /><br />To paraphrase Dogen, (who is referencing an old Chinese Chan story) you can&#39;t polish a tile to make a mirror. You don&#39;t sit to make a Buddha.<br /><br />You don&#39;t eat to shit and you don&#39;t shit to make manure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-57205026856717837392010-04-15T06:38:11.697-07:002010-04-15T06:38:11.697-07:00But brad and his teacher have a very physical / du...<i>But brad and his teacher have a very physical / dualist view of sitting, as if the posture itself produces some wonderful awareness or effect.<br /><br />That isn&#39;t accurate. Acknowledging that the &quot;body &quot; (posture) &quot;effects &quot; the mind isn&#39;t dualistic, it is the opposite. </i><br /><br />In neo-advatin groups the term dualism is used in a special sense. To suggest enlightenment has a cause (sitting in a certain posture) is to draw a distinction between enlightened and unenlightened, which neo-advaitins deny. So I think you are talking past each other, which is often the case in philosophical discourse.Jinzanghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04155467948613318531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-28676121461484335022010-04-15T05:56:30.855-07:002010-04-15T05:56:30.855-07:00john e -
Brad king of DSI? Well, yes. And therei...john e - <br /><br />Brad king of DSI? Well, yes. And therein lies one of the problems, for me, IMHO, of the whole idea of DSI. What&#39;s wrong with individual teachers teaching whoever comes along to do a bit of zazen with them? - A tried and trusted formula.anon #108http://www.blogger.com/profile/11399370114175682139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-75926620279505548972010-04-15T05:51:32.638-07:002010-04-15T05:51:32.638-07:00Hiya Harry,
I&#39;m just out the door. A quick re...Hiya Harry,<br /><br />I&#39;m just out the door. A quick respond:<br /><br /><i>It&#39;s one thing to say that you&#39;re way is right (for you!) and advocate it, <b>it&#39;s another thing to say that another person&#39;s way is wrong, or lacking,</b> or whatever. There is a clear distinction, or at least there should be.</i><br /><br />Yes to that and pretty much all wot you wrote.<br /><br />A fine line there is (for BW) between expressing an opinion and making a policy statement on behalf of Dogen Sangha International - I assume we&#39;re talking about <i>&quot;This is why, as brilliant as their philosophies sometimes are, they will never really work. They&#39;re beautiful and often true, but ultimately impractical.</i> and (even!) <i>&quot;garbage like Big Mind® is useless&quot;</i> and suchlike.<br /><br />You say, &quot;Brad doesn&#39;t speak for me when he voices his own, narrow religious opinions about other people&#39;s values and beliefs.&quot; And that goes for me too - I read what what he writes accordingly. But yes, as leader/spokesperson for Dogen Sangha, for that&#39;s what he now is, he should perhaps back off the opinionated stuff, or at least throw a few more &quot;IMHO&quot;s in.anon #108http://www.blogger.com/profile/11399370114175682139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17340756.post-86852474394225318002010-04-15T05:39:35.079-07:002010-04-15T05:39:35.079-07:00Ah So: Brad Warner is the King of Dogen Sangha Int...Ah So: Brad Warner is the King of Dogen Sangha International.john e mumbleshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08768421376288655378noreply@blogger.com