Your Super Trophy victory will forever have a notation next to it saying “only won because this team cheated.”
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How exactly did they cheat?

]]>By: ajw4277http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/22/payton-williams-can-appeal-but-should-they/#comment-1668979
Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:17:25 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=407588#comment-1668979If it was your team that got penalized like that over that BS you would not be saying it wasn’t harsh enough! That was ridiculous! What N.E. was way worse. Quit hating on N.O. Your favorite team was probably using the system too, they just didn’t get ratted out yet.
]]>By: coduh82http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/22/payton-williams-can-appeal-but-should-they/#comment-1668947
Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:14:21 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=407588#comment-1668947so i keep seeing this get put up here in comments that the sb win the saints had is tainted. Especially the win against the vikings. Thats crap. The Saints didnt cause Farve or Warner to retire. Both were already at the end of their careers anyway. One more question. How many players in either one of those games was injured by the Saints defense?
]]>By: bonniebengalhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/22/payton-williams-can-appeal-but-should-they/#comment-1668933
Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:11:56 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=407588#comment-1668933Sorry but they should be thanking their lucky stars they haven’t been arrested yet. Paying someone to injure another person is a crime. Ask Tonya Harding. People went to jail over that. And wait til the lawsuits start coming in from everyone who was injured under this regime. Payton thinks he’s lost 8 million. It’s gonna be more than that. I expect every player who has been injured by a Saints player during this regime is lawyering up as we speak.
]]>By: somekathttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/22/payton-williams-can-appeal-but-should-they/#comment-1668931
Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:11:31 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=407588#comment-1668931Yeah, lets appeal to the exact person who gave us the penalty in the first place, that should work out well

Unless they have some evidence that previous evidence was falsified (which they don’t, or they wouldn’t of already admitted to it), it would be a pointless exercise which resulted in nothing but attorney fees for the newely 8 million dollars poorer Peyton

]]>By: ilovefoolsballhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/22/payton-williams-can-appeal-but-should-they/#comment-1668928
Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:10:53 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=407588#comment-1668928Criminal convictions? What are you people smoking?
]]>By: melikefootballhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/22/payton-williams-can-appeal-but-should-they/#comment-1668908
Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:07:57 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=407588#comment-1668908More and more that comes out they should be happy where they stand. Payton had already said he was sorry but took full responability for this. Don’t cry over spilled milk now.
]]>By: Steeler's Willhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/22/payton-williams-can-appeal-but-should-they/#comment-1668665
Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:29:43 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=407588#comment-1668665It’s a waste of time to appeal, but I guess it can’t hurt to try.
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Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:28:54 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=407588#comment-1668657jgedgar70 says:
Mar 22, 2012 1:45 PM

As for the possibility of appeals, I can see Payton appealing on the basis of inconsistency. Since Williams was the one that orchestrated and administered the program (with a great assist from Vilma), I can understand why Payton would wonder why he gets a year, while Vitt gets 6 games and Loomis gets 8. Those 3 should have the same length of suspension.
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Williams may have orchestrated and organized the program, but Payton had the authority and responsibility to stop it, as directed by his boss (the owner) and the NFL. Instead, he chose to ignore that directive.

Does Loomis’ suspension start on Aril 1st like Payton’s? Will he be allowed to oversee their draft?
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No, Loomis’ suspension is for the first 8 games. It doesn’t start until the beginning of the season or right before it. He is free to participate in the draft and can continue signing players up until that point.

]]>By: ejmat2http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/22/payton-williams-can-appeal-but-should-they/#comment-1668581
Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:16:51 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=407588#comment-1668581There should be NO appeal. After all didn’t the Saints just release a statement saying they accept FULL RESPONSIBILITY? By appealing it would show the rest of us they are full of crap.
]]>By: anarchopurplismhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/22/payton-williams-can-appeal-but-should-they/#comment-1668575
Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:14:07 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=407588#comment-1668575Payton should seriously consider:
-Release a contrite statement
-Resign
-Go back to TX & be with his family
-Wait for the Cowboys to call
]]>By: davidhuber10http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/22/payton-williams-can-appeal-but-should-they/#comment-1668546
Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:10:53 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=407588#comment-1668546That would do absolutely nothing the commissioner handle all the appeals the process
]]>By: tombrokawhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/22/payton-williams-can-appeal-but-should-they/#comment-1668513
Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:07:19 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=407588#comment-1668513The outrage from the nitwit brigade is amusing.

There is no system of bounty related violence the Saints could perpetrate that would trump the inherent violence of professional football.

When gladiators get a little “too” violent the gladiators are not at fault. It’s the society that likes watching gladiator matches that’s responsible.

Those of us who profit or derive entertainment have no moral high ground. All of you pretending to have said ground are flirting with being classified as legally retarded.

the nfl hands out these suspensions like its nothing. you know what it does to the city of new orleans?
You Saints fans just don’t get it. Do you realize what this has done to the City of New Orleans? Your team is forever tarnished because of this and will not get past it for years, if even then.

Your Super Trophy victory will forever have a notation next to it saying “only won because this team cheated.”

Sean Payton is an embarrassment in every sense of the word, he personally robbed a once proud and great franchise of it’s respect, it’s dignity and worst of all it’s reputation.

Yet the fans and players squeal like angry children about how mean the Commissioner’s too-lenient punishment was. You remind us of all the Penn State kids who rallied around their coach because he protected a pedophile…

]]>By: sterilizecromartiehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/22/payton-williams-can-appeal-but-should-they/#comment-1668429
Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:58:43 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=407588#comment-1668429oldschoolomen says:
Mar 22, 2012 1:36 PM
Based on the comments, I feel like one of the only people that think the suspensions were ridiculously harsh, send zero message at all except that Roger Goodell took this personally, and that the bounty thing in general is severely overrated.
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Dude, save it. I have been trying to convince everyone of that since this whole thing started. It only leads to a million thumbs down and a whole bunch of comments like “Oh so you think players acting as paid assassins on the football field isn’t a big deal?!?! They should be in jail!!!”
]]>By: nunpuncherhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/22/payton-williams-can-appeal-but-should-they/#comment-1668418
Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:57:33 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=407588#comment-1668418I can’t wait until Sean Payton gets busted for making hands-on coaching decisions with The Saints during his suspension.
]]>By: rajbaishttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/22/payton-williams-can-appeal-but-should-they/#comment-1668401
Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:54:18 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=407588#comment-1668401Appeal!!!!

Sure, Sean Payton has been a pretty good NFL coach, and now he has the New Orleans Saints in their first Super Bowl.

But I remember when I first became aware of Sean Payton. He was a scab who crossed the players’ picket lines in the 1987 strike, got himself on the Chicago Bears roster and he was on TV debating Raiders tight end Todd Christensen on the legitimacy, or lack thereof, of scab players.
For the record, Payton completed 8 of 23 passes with no TDs and one interception for the Bears in 1987, his only season as a “player” in the NFL.

Take it easy, man. I don’t think 42 is all that old. I have that move on DVD. Classic guy movie.

As for the possibility of appeals, I can see Payton appealing on the basis of inconsistency. Since Williams was the one that orchestrated and administered the program (with a great assist from Vilma), I can understand why Payton would wonder why he gets a year, while Vitt gets 6 games and Loomis gets 8. Those 3 should have the same length of suspension.

Williams should never be allowed to hold a football coaching positiion, on any level, in any state, for life. It is beyond sickening and reprehensible to offer financial incentives to injure people to the point that they can’t walk off the field under their own power.

]]>By: broncobrewerhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/22/payton-williams-can-appeal-but-should-they/#comment-1668342
Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:45:14 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=407588#comment-1668342This is the one case I say sue. And shouldn’t the coaches union be appealing for them? Plus wouldn’t the appeal have to be heard by a third party? The commish is too inconsistent with his punishments
]]>By: jamaltimorehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/22/payton-williams-can-appeal-but-should-they/#comment-1668320
Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:42:55 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=407588#comment-1668320Yes, they should appeal. This thing is gotten so out on control. I’m still trying to find all the poor souls who’s careers were ended by greg williams defenses? I’d then like to compare those numbers against the all the other 31 NFL teams and see how much impact his system had terminating other teams players. How about one of you PFT genius do that calculation. This fine was handed out as precedent for the NFL to protect themselves in court against head injury cases end of story.

I know I’m now in the minority in today’s pansy society but playing football can and should continue to be hazardous to your health. It’s the reason it’s so damn exciting and moves a nation to watch it religously! It’s also why those brave souls who play it should be paid millions!

]]>By: trubroncfan07http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/22/payton-williams-can-appeal-but-should-they/#comment-1668309
Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:41:32 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=407588#comment-1668309Goodell over extending his power once again.
]]>By: dvdman123http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/22/payton-williams-can-appeal-but-should-they/#comment-1668308
Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:41:18 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=407588#comment-1668308It’s funny how most of the negative comments are from posters who teams have been whipped up by the Saints the last few years. With or without Payton they are still a VERY talented team with more then enough capable coaches on the staff to make up for Payton. They again will do a lot of the butt whipping again this season and maybe even more so. It should be interesting this season.
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