[quote=]There’s another quirk in the Obama administration’s new health insurance system: It lacks a way for consumers to quickly and easily update their coverage for the birth of a baby and other common life changes.

With regular private insurance, parents just notify the health plan. Insurers will still cover new babies, the administration says, but parents will also have to contact the government at some point later on.

It’s a reminder that the new coverage for many uninsured Americans comes with a third party in the mix: the feds. And the system’s wiring for some vital federal functions isn’t yet fully connected.

It’s not just having a new baby that could create bureaucratic hassles, but other life changes affecting a consumer’s taxpayer-subsidized premiums. The list includes marriage and divorce, a death in the family, a new job or a change in income, even moving to a different community.
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tisk tisk now come on, Obama promised that the website is going to get fixed lets just be good lil boys n girls and not worry about it because the numbers are rolling in about how happy everyone is so just because it isn’t easy doesn’t mean it doesn’t work right.

:shrug:

anyone ever wonder when the propaganda machine is going to just go kaput, it is amazing, in WWII everyone an their uncle will absolutely agree , that the Nazi party used propaganda to promote anything under the sun to even in our own recent history with IRAQ ! Anyone remember that one Iraqi officer, on air reading off of some script I think , to the degree stating that America is not invading and everything is a okay, ( an im not even paraphrasing properly I know I could search it but why bother ) Numbers don’t lie about the success, until one starts asking where the numbers are coming from and how are the numbers being tallied .

To be fair and just, and we Catholics believe and strive for fairness and justice,

There are those of us who have been blessed, and have receive a great deal of relief, medical insurance-wise, by Obamacare.

I know that is not , cough cough, politically correct here at CAF, but it is an honest statement of reality that some may want to deny or at least, be blind to.

Obamacare has made my life a great deal easier.
Sorry if the facts trouble some…

I thank God, for His hearing of my prayers, and of so many others, here in America, when it comes to our health care.

(those of you who find this infuriating may now return to your otherwise deep seated biases… )

I seriously doubt that anyone would find it infuriating that you are better off; what people find infuriating is that to do so, millions have been damaged, and millions more are going to be damaged. We have just made it through the first round of policy cancellations; the next round comes this next year.

To be fair and just, and we Catholics believe and strive for fairness and justice,

There are those of us who have been blessed, and have receive a great deal of relief, medical insurance-wise, by Obamacare.

I know that is not , cough cough, politically correct here at CAF, but it is an honest statement of reality that some may want to deny or at least, be blind to.

Obamacare has made my life a great deal easier.
Sorry if the facts trouble some…

I thank God, for His hearing of my prayers, and of so many others, here in America, when it comes to our health care.

(those of you who find this infuriating may now return to your otherwise deep seated biases… )

No doubt. But it is like saying I enjoy finally paying rent and having a place to stay, even though I am doing it at my neighbors house, and doing it with my fourth maxed out credit card.

Even in a bad, immoral system, there will be some people who benefit. That doesn’t make the system any more moral, or the financial reality of its collapse any less real.

As long as you are also honest enough to admit you realize it is fools gold, and that the system is moving towards economic collapse as it is currently funded, you can’t brag about the positives you see.

Marie5890;11569784]To be fair and just, and we Catholics believe and strive for fairness and justice,

We do, but should a secular, corrupt government be the instrument to deliver that?

We’ve got a 10,000 year history or so that says otherwise.

Besides, government is hardly charity. It’s an element of force. How charitable can one really be if they are forced into charity? What graces come from that?

There are those of us who have been blessed, and have receive a great deal of relief, medical insurance-wise, by Obamacare.

At what cost?

As Bill O’Reilly said: “when this is all said and done, ObamaCare will have a 35/65 approval rating with the 35% getting the benefits and the 65% paying for it.”

I know that is not , cough cough, politically correct here at CAF, but it is an honest statement of reality that some may want to deny or at least, be blind to.

:rolleyes:

To refine a line from Alan Shore: “Haven’t you heard? Even the democrats are turning on ObamaCare now.”

Obamacare has made my life a great deal easier.
Sorry if the facts trouble some…

It’s not that I doubt you, but having lived in the UK for 6 months, I wish I had a dollar every time an American said “gee, I was abroad and never any problem with your health care system, so what’s the big deal?”

In the grand outlook, making policy for 316 million people based on a few personal testimonies is horrible governance.

In order to be charitable here, you need to look beyond what you are getting and how it affects everyone else.

Also, things may look good for you now, but we’ll have to see what happens should you need specialized care or if doctors in the USA really do decide to retire en masse.

I thank God, for His hearing of my prayers, and of so many others, here in America, when it comes to our health care.

Even if it means forcing nuns to pay for contraception? I don’t think that’s what God had in mind…:rolleyes:

(those of you who find this infuriating may now return to your otherwise deep seated biases… )

To be fair and just, and we Catholics believe and strive for fairness and justice,

There are those of us who have been blessed, and have receive a great deal of relief, medical insurance-wise, by Obamacare.

I know that is not , cough cough, politically correct here at CAF, but it is an honest statement of reality that some may want to deny or at least, be blind to.

Obamacare has made my life a great deal easier.
Sorry if the facts trouble some…

I thank God, for His hearing of my prayers, and of so many others, here in America, when it comes to our health care.

(those of you who find this infuriating may now return to your otherwise deep seated biases… )

It is good that your life is being made easier, but your life is now easier and at the cost of who and more over who now forces the government to support those that are making your life easier.

The facts are not trouble some, they are being twisted to say that if the government can help a few at the cost of taking from others then it is okay.

To rob from the rich to give the poor doesn’t make it right, and Obama is far from Robin Hood.

That being said no one wants the poor to suffer, no one wants you suffer, we should be looking towards the Church to help us and our brothers and sisters in Christ, not demanding that a government solve our lives and make it better and make us more reliant upon them.

To be fair and just, and we Catholics believe and strive for fairness and justice,

There are those of us who have been blessed, and have receive a great deal of relief, medical insurance-wise, by Obamacare.

I know that is not , cough cough, politically correct here at CAF, but it is an honest statement of reality that some may want to deny or at least, be blind to.

Obamacare has made my life a great deal easier.
Sorry if the facts trouble some…

I thank God, for His hearing of my prayers, and of so many others, here in America, when it comes to our health care.

(those of you who find this infuriating may now return to your otherwise deep seated biases… )

So you benefited, but others (who were doing fine, paying for their own insurance) are now worse off, with larger, untenable premiums and out of pocket costs, combined with less coverage then they had.

The law really hasn’t affected me too much personally, We have qualified for either medicaid or our state subsidized healthcare (occasionally, we suffer from what is known as churning, since I work temp jobs and my husbands job is sort of seasonal, but get paid a decent amount for them, so we bounce in and out of the system). So signing up via the website, could someday be very nice, however, the state run website was set up so poorly that it took me several days to finish the application (mostly because I kept getting error messages). Not only that but it was a terrible design that made you go through several screens just to input family members citizenship status and social security number.

Now when I have been on medicaid in the past with pregnancies it really wasn’t that bad to add the new baby. You told the gov you were pregnant, they would issue the baby a card, and then you called them after they were born and they got baby signed up through the insurer. The problem with this is that it is almost backwards. You inform your insurer that you have a baby, they add it. But then you have to inform the government and get new subsidies or tax deductions.

To be fair and just, and we Catholics believe and strive for fairness and justice,

There are those of us who have been blessed, and have receive a great deal of relief, medical insurance-wise, by Obamacare.

I know that is not , cough cough, politically correct here at CAF, but it is an honest statement of reality that some may want to deny or at least, be blind to.

Obamacare has made my life a great deal easier.
Sorry if the facts trouble some…

I thank God, for His hearing of my prayers, and of so many others, here in America, when it comes to our health care.

(those of you who find this infuriating may now return to your otherwise deep seated biases… )

I have healthcare thru the VA, but we couldn’t afford health insurance for my wife until the ACA went into effect. Now she has a great plan for very little money. 3 of my very Conservative friends have signed up and gotten better deals as well, and I didn’t say “I told ya so!” even tho it was tempting. I’m just happy for them. They have better insurance for less cost and therefore have more money in their own pockets. Gee, that President Obama isn’t doing a very good job of being a socialist! :rolleyes:

So you benefited, but others (who were doing fine, paying for their own insurance) are now worse off, with larger, untenable premiums and out of pocket costs, combined with less coverage then they had.

A small percentage, yes. That doesn’t warrant throwing away the ACA.

Our old system of health racketeering got a major punch in the gut, and it was long overdue. :mad:

Let’s see. According to the administration, 2 million signed up for the ACA. Let’s be generous and say all 2 million of them got a better deal than they already had. But estimates have it that nearly 5 million people have had their insurance canceled because of the ACA.