MR. KUNSTLER: By the way, Mr. Guthrie, was your
father Woody Guthrie, the writer of "This Land is My Land"?

THE WITNESS: Objection, your Honor.

MR. KUNSTLER: Sustain the objection.

THE WITNESS: Now, Mr. Guthrie, you stated that
you were an actor. Could you elaborate on that?

MR. KUNSTLER: Well, I've done one film, "Alice's
Restaurant."

THE WITNESS: Is that playing in Chicago now?

MR. KUNSTLER: I believe so.

MR. FORAN: Your Honor, this is a long trial and this
silly stuff---

THE COURT: I sustain the objection.

MR. KUNSTLER: Now, Mr. Guthrie, I call your
attention to mid-January of 1968. Do you recall meeting with Jerry
Rubin and Abbie Hoffman?

THE WITNESS: Yes, I met them in New York at
an underground radio station. Abbie and Jerry were talking to me
about having a Festival of Life here in Chicago.

MR. FORAN: Could we have who said what, please, your
Honor?

THE COURT: Yes. We don't expect you to
have all that other talent and still know how to be a good witness.

THE WITNESS: Abbie wanted me to come down and
sing at a Festival of Life here in Chicago. What I said to Abbie
was that it would be rather difficult, you know, for me to get involved
in that kind of thing because we had had a lot of trouble before with festivals
and gatherings because of police violence.
Abbie asked me if I had any song or kind of theme
song for the festival, and I said yes. "Alice's Restaurant,"
and Jerry said, "What's that?" He had never heard it, and I proceeded
to tell him about "Alice's Restaurant."

MR. KUNSTLER: What did you tell him?

THE WITNESS: Well, I told him that it was about
Alice and Ray Brock, who live in a church in Stockbridge, Massachusetts,
and she ran a restaurant. They live in a church and they had a lot
of room in the church, and having all that room in the church, they decided
that they didn't have to take out their garbage. We had a big Thanksgiving
dinner, and after we took out the garbage and we went to the garbage dump,
but it was closed. There was a sign across the entrance saying, "Closed
on Thanksgiving," and we drove around looking for another place to put
the garbage. We found one and dumped it. We went back to the
church and ate some more.
The next morning I got up. We got a phone
call from a police officer who wanted to know who had dumped the garbage.
He had found my name on a piece of paper in the middle of the pile, and
said it was illegal to dump there, to come down to the police station and
pick up the garbage. So I went down, and he arrested me, and I went
with my friend, and we all went over to the garbage, looked around.
We went to court, got fined twenty-five bucks, and eventually picked up
the garbage
And it was after that that I went down for my induction
physical examination thing in New York City at Whitehall Street, and I
went through a lot of tests and examinations, I had examinations and all
kinds of things. I eventually went to see a psychiatrist.

THE WITNESS: Yes, I did.
Anyway, I finally came to see the very last person
in the induction center who had asked me if I had ever been arrested.
I told him yes, I was. He said, "What for?" I said, "Littering,"
and he said, "Did you ever go to court?" and I said, "Yes," and I was unacceptable
to the draft because I had been a litterbug in Stockbridge, Massachusetts.
The end of the song is the chorus which goes: [sings]
"You can get anything you want---"

THE COURT: Oh, no, no. No. I am sorry.

MR. KUNSTLER: Your Honor, that's what he sang
for the defendants.

THE COURT: I don't want the theater owner where this
picture is shown to sue me.

THE COURT: I will reserve my comment on that
one. You, please don't sing.

MR. KUNSTLER: Can you say the words of the chorus?

THE WITNESS: "You can get anything you want
at Alice's Restaurant/You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant./Walk
right in---it's around the back/About a half a mile from the railroad track,
and/You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant."

MR. KUNSTLER: Now, I call you attention, Mr.
Guthrie, to the opening week, approximately, of July, 1968. Do you
know where you were?

THE WITNESS: I was on the front porch of the
Viking Hotel in Newport, Rhode Island. Abbie and Jerry approached
me, and asked me if I would come to Chicago to sing the song. I said
to both of them that I was still concerned about the fact that the permits
had not been granted yet, and that I would not attend and that I would
to my best to have other people not attend if the permits weren't granted
because of the fear of police violence.

MR. KUNSTLER: Now, did you go to Chicago?

THE WITNESS: No, I didn't.

MR. KUNSTLER: And would you state to the Court and
jury why you did not go to Chicago?