I have been watching KOLR OTA during some basketball and football events. The picture quality is terrible. There is such bad pixelation it is touch to watch. The CBS Sports ROKU live feed over the internet looks better with fast motion. KOLR doesn't have subchannels and I see 16.1 Mpbs stream bandwidth, so I can't see why it is so bad. KRCG in Jefferson City looks about as bad. The DirecTV feed for KOLR looks slightly better. Fox OTA looks great.

It's always been that way for me, and I'm only about 3 miles from the Fordland towers. It's especially bad when the camera pans left or right. I don't know if it's a CBS issue, or a KOLR issue.
I'm just happy that I get to watch the Super Bowl this year since I still can't get FOX (KRBK).

It's always been that way for me, and I'm only about 3 miles from the Fordland towers. It's especially bad when the camera pans left or right. I don't know if it's a CBS issue, or a KOLR issue.
I'm just happy that I get to watch the Super Bowl this year since I still can't get FOX (KRBK).

Signal isn't an issue. I have watched OTA from 3 locations (home, in-laws, friends) and signal is great, but the picture quality during fast motion left/right is terrible. Take a look at a basketball game or football game. It must be a CBS thing because KRCG in Jefferson City looks bad as well. Regular shows look OK. It is a shame when a 16.1 megabit OTA looks worse than the CBS Roku app watching it over the internet at maybe 3-4 megabit.

Basketball, fast break. Pretty sorry quality. 85% signal strength. I think it is a CBS thing, because I saw some KOLR local commercials with fast motion and they looked OK. Probably no hope in getting anything better. Thank goodness most of my sports watching is on fox.

Basketball, fast break. Pretty sorry quality. 85% signal strength. I think it is a CBS thing, because I saw some KOLR local commercials with fast motion and they looked OK. Probably no hope in getting anything better. Thank goodness most of my sports watching is on fox.

Yeah, it's pretty bad. It's (CBS) been this way for me ever since they switched to HD.
My signal strength hovers between 97%-99%, so that's not the issue.

At least you get to watch FOX. I can't even pick it up!
I've been thinking about trying to combine 2 antennas, but have read that it might cause more problems than it solves.

Well, I'm getting tired of not being able to watch FOX, and with Spring on it's way, I'm trying to formulate a plan.

I live less than 4 miles to the WSW of the broadcast towers in Fordland, so that puts me about 15 miles or so EAST of the FOX tower at KOLR on east Division. Nearly 180 degree separation.

Currently I have a DB4 for UHF and a large VHF antenna on a 10-foot mast on the highest point of my roof. I'm using a VHF/UHF combiner, and a preamp. Signal is split to 5 HDTVs and my main desktop PC (I use Windows Media Center as a DVR). I'm getting all of the channels from Fordland without any issues (usually, lol), and also get 17.1.

I don't know if I should add another UHF antenna to the mast (or even in the attic), and aim one towards Fordland, and the other towards FOX and use a splitter in reverse to try to combine the signals, or just try a Omnidirectional antenna and see how that goes.
This is the one I'm considering on Amazon: 1byone Omni-directional Amplified Outdoor Antenna for FM/VHF/UHF 60 Miles Range

It wouldn't let me post a link to the antenna from Amazon on my previous post due to post-count.
I'll try again here.

If you add another UHF antenna, being so close to everything, you will end up with multi-path interference with both UHF antennas receiving signals from different places at different times. There are ways to do it, such as having the exact same antenna and exact same feed line length and such, but it seems complicated. Maybe someone here could help with a TVFool report. It seems like you are very close to everything and an omni-directional antenna might work out for you being so close.

KOLR will be adding two subchannels, BounceTV and GRIT. KOZL will also be adding two subchannels, Escape and Laff. These are listed on the rabbitears site as "soon". A buddy at work tipped me off to this.

It has to do with the larger scope. Nexstar (and their shell company Mission Broadcasting) signed a deal with Katz networks to add Bounce, Grit, Laff and Escape to stations. 81 stations total in 54 markets

CBS did frown on subs on their O&O stations...but last year they added Decades to all 16 O&O stations (in their 14 markets....Minneapolis technically has 3 CBS O&O stations....but 2 are satellite stations)

Affiliates (not owned by CBS) could do what they wanted with subs.

Subsequently, until recently Nexstar (and their shell company Mission) usually didnt add subs to their stations and on stations they would buy if there was a sub when the contract came up they would drop it.

It has to do with the larger scope. Nexstar (and their shell company Mission Broadcasting) signed a deal with Katz networks to add Bounce, Grit, Laff and Escape to stations. 81 stations total in 54 markets

Thanks for the URL. I'm glad to see this kind of thing grow, especially in rural areas. However, I'm still interested in how the 600mhz auctions will go to see who will sell out and where things will be consolidated. That may impact a lot.

Does anybody know how I can get those channels to come in on my am 21N DirecTV off-air tuner

You're pretty much stuck until/if DirecTV adds them to the program guide. I have two of these and - to my knowledge - there's no way to make them scan for channels. Just make sure the zip code in the antenna setup is properly set. You can put up to two zip codes into the system as I have for Detroit and Toledo.

The better option is to run a line from your antenna directly to the television. The AM 21's tuner isn't the best, by far.

Well, I'm getting tired of not being able to watch FOX, and with Spring on it's way, I'm trying to formulate a plan.

I live less than 4 miles to the WSW of the broadcast towers in Fordland, so that puts me about 15 miles or so EAST of the FOX tower at KOLR on east Division. Nearly 180 degree separation.

Currently I have a DB4 for UHF and a large VHF antenna on a 10-foot mast on the highest point of my roof. I'm using a VHF/UHF combiner, and a preamp. Signal is split to 5 HDTVs and my main desktop PC (I use Windows Media Center as a DVR). I'm getting all of the channels from Fordland without any issues (usually, lol), and also get 17.1.

I don't know if I should add another UHF antenna to the mast (or even in the attic), and aim one towards Fordland, and the other towards FOX and use a splitter in reverse to try to combine the signals, or just try a Omnidirectional antenna and see how that goes.
This is the one I'm considering on Amazon: 1byone Omni-directional Amplified Outdoor Antenna for FM/VHF/UHF 60 Miles Range

Any suggestions are appreciated!!

Have you been able to pick up KRBK yet? A new antennas is being installed in Fordland in the next couple weeks. Plans are to have it on air by the end of the month.