Also, said camera is only $60. So even if you buy it it's STILL cheaper than the Xbone.

Don't forget - on the Xbone, you need to buy the Battery Pack to make your controller truly rechargeable (short of using rechargeable batteries, yes). For no doubt another $40. It's standard on the PS4.

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You can tell how badly MS screwed up when Sony gets its biggest reaction not by announcing any new features, but just by announcing they're not making their new console worse than their old one.

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Oh wow, according to Eurogamer, Sony is requiring remote play on all PS4 titles, unless they require special hardware like the camera.

Unfortunately, this seems to have come at the cost of Sony's abandonment of the Vita as a platform in itself. At least from their E3 announcements, it looks like Vita will be home to nothing more than PS3 ports and PS4 remote play.

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"Why did the chicken cross the Mobius strip? To get to the same side." - The Big Bang Theory

I only got to watch the E3 coverage tonight, but I have to say my disappointment with the XBone continues. I would like to play the next Halo game in Fall 2014, but I can't see myself ever spending $499 on a console. Which for Canada will probably translate into $549 despite the CDN dollar being on par with the US - only because MS Canada learned long ago that the Canadian market will endure the milking. I don't have much interest in owning a PS4 either, despite it looking like a much better console than MS's offering.

I was leaning towards going PC only next gen and I'm convinced more than ever that'll be the case for at least the 1st 3-4 years. I've come to really prefer Steam over XBL for online gaming. Quite a turn around considering I haven't made the PC my gaming platform of choice since the N64-PS1 gen. I do still loath the sometimes finnicky tweaking required to run games on PC's, but the truth is my son and nephew love it and they're good at it - so no need for me to get frustrated by it.

Also, said camera is only $60. So even if you buy it it's STILL cheaper than the Xbone.

Don't forget - on the Xbone, you need to buy the Battery Pack to make your controller truly rechargeable (short of using rechargeable batteries, yes). For no doubt another $40. It's standard on the PS4.

No it's not, unless you already have the PS Move stuff.

But that's fine, I don't /want/ the Move shit. ($59 for camera, then $19-29 each for the Move controllers)

After reflecting on the previous presser by MS and Sony I've come to the conclusion that I liked MS offering better, but saying that I can't overlook Sony's price and used game policy. I don't resell game or buy used games, but my older brother that has a family fairly often borrows my games cause he can't afford to purchase a game very often. While MS system would allow me to loan my brother a game unless a developer restrict it the fact the a developer has that control is a HUGE problem. Sadly, I wanted a xbox one but not at the cost of being restricted on what I do with my disc based games.

Haven't cancelled my preorder yet as I want to watch to see what MS does in response to Sony's presser

Haven't cancelled my preorder yet as I want to watch to see what MS does in response to Sony's presser

Most likely nothing, if previous history is anything to go by. Just look at how they treated Windows 8 despite the public backlash. Microsoft is like a supertanker. They can't change direction or stop without long-term planning.

What you need to ask yourself is whether or not you're comfortable supporting a company that creates such consumer-hostile policies as Microsoft has done for the Xbox One. If you don't care about consumer ethics, then go right ahead and buy the Xbox. If you want to influence the direction in which gaming consoles are heading however, save your money for something else, like the PS4, Wii U, or even a new PC.

PS4 is on pre-order through Amazon with same day shipping. Hopefully I ordered early enough to get a launch day system.

Honestly I went into the Sony conference expecting the worst (DRM, $599 price) but Sony fucking killed it. It's going to take Ceekay levels of rose colored glasses to want the XBone over the PS4.

I know he keeps saying Exclusives, but I'm honestly trying to figure out if he's trolling with that. Sony will have more exclusives in the long run and their exclusives are historically way better games. SO I will hang my hat on Sony's PS2 and PS3 exclusives record.

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" And they are a strong and frightening force, impervious to, and immunized against, the feeble lance of mere reason." Isaac Asimov

At this point Nintendo better have a damn good showing if they want to remain in the console discussion. A $50 to $100 price drop on the WiiU as well as some good game announcements will make me get one finally, but we'll see.

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" And they are a strong and frightening force, impervious to, and immunized against, the feeble lance of mere reason." Isaac Asimov

Also, said camera is only $60. So even if you buy it it's STILL cheaper than the Xbone.

Don't forget - on the Xbone, you need to buy the Battery Pack to make your controller truly rechargeable (short of using rechargeable batteries, yes). For no doubt another $40. It's standard on the PS4.

Super Mario 3D World – December 13th - The new Wii U 3D Mario will feature four-player co-op, with players playing as Mario, Luigi, Toad, and Peach. The new cat suit will allow Mario and his friends to transform into a cat, gaining the ability to climb up walls and scratch enemies with claws.

Bayonetta 2 -2014- New gameplay trailer. I have no idea what is going on but it’s pretty and could be fun.

So, what did you think of the Nintendo conference, as our resident WiiU ownder L9?

Meh… To be fair most of those games do interest me and I will probably buy them but nothing really stood out with any WOW factor.

The biggest problem I see is none of those games (aside from Party U :sigh:) will make use of the WiiU pad in any meaningful way, which makes people ask why it’s there in the first place. The best thing you can say is that you won’t have to worry about motion controls.

It’s unfortunate because the pad really does allow for innovation in gaming. ZombiU showed this very well. Hell, even Rayman Legends does a fair job of this. Nintendo really should have pushed for a new Metroid or a Zelda to show off what the system can do that is unique.

I could only watch a bit of the Nintendo Direct show, but I'm surprised at the HD remake of Windwaker. I replayed it about 2 years ago on the Wii and IMO its 1 of the Zelda games that really stands up graphically on account of the excellent animation style. IMO it would be wiser for them to HD an older Zelda title.

I know a lot of people will get excited over that Ninty line up,but for me i am still glad i decided to skip the Wii U(first Nintendo console not got)

Wind Waker HD i would love to have(loved the original) even though we already knew about that,but everything else is very meh for me..maybe Mario world if its similar to Super Mario 64 type gameplay(which is sounds like)

Haven't they just released a new Donkey Kong game just a few months back?

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So, what did you think of the Nintendo conference, as our resident WiiU ownder L9?

Nintendo really should have pushed for a new Metroid or a Zelda to show off what the system can do that is unique.

yeah needed a new Zelda game..not just the game we have already played,and what have they done with Metroid?,I can't think of the last Metroid game,perhaps the Prime trilogy re-release for Wii

Best thing I've seen or heard of any of the E3 coverage yet is Dragon Age 3 not available until Fall 2014. That gives it a dev window of more than 3-1/2 years between it and DA2, which makes me hopeful that it will return the series to the quality of DA Origins. I'm surprised Bioware got that much time; they must have dug in and pushed back the evil suits from the EA empire.

It's the only Metroid game I haven't played. From what I read, it didn't seem like a Metroid game I wanted to play and neither of my kids were interested in it either.

The gameplay is Other M was actually fine. The problem was they shoehorned in a train wreck of a story that took center stage and gave Sammus a daddy complex and more or less destroyed any credibility she had as a bounty hunter.