It was considered highly offensive (anti-American by some) to have the racers visit a Vietnamese war memorial which contained a crashed American aircraft. American soldiers presumably died in the plane.

Reviving this old topic because although it is known that the body-building task in TAR 19 was part of a detour, In the NZ TV Guide for this leg (which is only airing for the first time this coming Saturday) it also states that they face body building as part of a Detour. I guess the average NZ Amazing Race viewer who reads it will be confused when the episode airs and there is "no detour"

In TAR 21 leg 9 if the chipps accidentally dropped their detour clue and forced to return back to retrieve their ones, would U-Turn board affect them?

How would the U-turn affect the Chippendales if they passed it before Trey & Lexi could use it on them? Also, to my knowledge, if a team dropped a clue they already picked up from a clue box or such, they don't have to retrieve it unless they WANT to. This pertains to lost clues (such as Wil & Tara in the S2 finale). Teams, however, could not pick up another clue from the box if they lost their original clue (such as Freddie & Kendra in S6 Leg 2).

Besides, the alliance's plan was the first team to arrive at the U-Turn board would U-Turn Abbie & Ryan. If Trey & Lexi arrived there and saw both slots weren't used, they would use it on the dating divorcees, not Jaymes & James. The Chippendales would arrive next, and they would U-Turn Trey & Lexi, completing their U-Turn contract.

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"My goal is not to wake up at forty with the bitter realization that I've wasted my life in a job I hate because I was forced to decide on a career in my teens." - Daria Morgendorffer, Daria, "Gifted"

TAR can't continue on like this. All the Ford and Snapple sponsorships won't be enough to help. They need to make big improvements.

I wholeheartedly agree. I remember reading a post on Rob Has a Website (as well as some posts here) about possible improvements. One of the biggest ones needs to be casting. I feel that , the only good (recent) casts were 17 and 21. I think that CBS should take a look at the Aus2 cast. I could handle a mediocre route if the casting is spot on like it was that season. If we're lucky, maybe CBS will look at the backlash from the casting this season. I would work on the casting, then the route in that order, since most people are going to see the cast first.

I strongly disagree that 17 was a good cast.I felt the only truely great teams from 17 were Gary & Mallory, Kevin & Michael, Brooke & Claire, and Ron & Tony who didn't even get time to shine.

I still stand by S23 having the best Post UB cast, it just had a horrible boot order!

I'll agree however that Aus2 had amazing cast. It's prob one of the finest castings in TAR history.

In my opinion TAR19 had an okay cast, only had the boot order been different And TAR23 could've gone from very good to really bad if only the NFLs didn't have their flight problems. I mean, that season would've sucked without TimMarie

Cast-wise, my favorite out of the finished post-UB seasons are S23 and S21. The frontrunners in S22 were a bit ... flat. That's why my favorites from that season were Pam & Winnie and Joey & Meghan. S20 teams were a bit unmemorable for me, and in S19, I really liked Bill & Cathi and Ernie & Cindy.

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"My goal is not to wake up at forty with the bitter realization that I've wasted my life in a job I hate because I was forced to decide on a career in my teens." - Daria Morgendorffer, Daria, "Gifted"

Taking into account the route, tasks, and team cast, here are my RAW thoughts (not based on editing) on the post-UB seasons excluding the current TAR24:

TAR19: This season featuring the first ever double-elimination at a single Pit Stop had high promise. The route delivered with exclusive firsthand features of new countries such as Indonesia, Malawi, Denmark, and Belgium, but stumbled with the tasks. Remember the predictable disassemble/reassemble Roadblock in the second Thailand leg? The cast was decent, but had a dry sense of personality. In my opinion, Andy & Tommy trucking through tasks and Bill & Cathi's surprise finishes saved this season.

TAR20: This is the last season we've seen teams travel to a newly visited country (Azerbaijan) and it was a drama-filled run indeed with the notoriety of Brendon & Rachel loudly on the loose. The route in the first half of the Race was really good with a diverse amount of locomotives and regional areas within a country. Tasks happened to be quite interesting. However, the last half of the race starting from Tanzania went downhill especially with the Hiroshima-Osaka, Japan visit that could have been easily enjoyable (didn't like any of the tasks, especially the Japanese game show rehash). Teams this season each had their dominant traits whether physically, mentally, or verbally. Like what Phil stated in his pre-season cast assessment, any team had the ability to be champions.

TAR21: Based on editing, the first season to not feature a new country proved to be a turn in the wrong direction. However, based on raw scenes, this could be a decent race. The route was marginal since the first 2/3 of the race stabbed the season with strictly airport to airport locomotion. As for the tasks, most have promise. Casting this season happened to be very interesting with many regular-appearance folks, interesting semi-celebrities with key personalities, and two teams with rolling luggage like Maria & Tiffany.

TAR22: A season with a new special region, but no confirmable new country. The route had a steady flow of locomotion, but the tasks were generic and one leg happened to not involve any cultural or historical reference to New Zealand at all, but rather Chuck & Wynona-land. I'd consider this season as ethnically diverse, but the cast, like TAR19, had dry personalities just scratching the surface of their real hearts.

TAR23: Like season 21, this race featured zero new countries, but had a route that had hope. I have seen better tasks on the other hand. (Like seriously, stand like a statue? That's what they've come down to?) Most of the teams this season had dominant personalities such as pro athletes and athletic heiresses, perfectionist doctors, and friends and family who work well together. This season happened to be one of the few that actually had flavorful personalities, whether sweet or sour.

Could someone point me in the right direction where I might be able to watch this? I have Googled and YouTubed the past 48 and have come up with nothing.

Thank you.

Oooh, TAR11 is quite a long time ago, I doubt there would be visual evidence available (photos maybe, but most likely not videos). Plus, I'm not sure which winner you are talking about, TAR4's semi-celebrity Chip or TAR5's first African-American winners Chip.

Why are Josh & Brent bad winners? If you ask me, it was great that they won.

They aren't horrible i.e bad winners in the sense that they were horrible people, but it's their lack of competitive drive that ruined them for me. During their whole nightmare airplane debacle, they didn't run through those legs, they just limped through those legs. They wanted to be with Abbie/Ryan even on a Double U-Turn leg and it's just something I hated while there were teams like Natalie/Nadiya who were just so happy to be there, Josh & Brent were just THERE. That's it. I really want CaroJen to win though!

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Why are Josh & Brent bad winners? If you ask me, it was great that they won.

I felt that they didn't really want to win when they offered Abbie & Ryan to U-Turn them in Amsterdam (correct me if I am wrong). It's like Chips, NaNa and Trexi really wanted to win, and they won accidentally because the others couldn't do the language roadblock. But I was overall neutral to them, but didn't felt that they should win.