Euro 2016 hadn’t even started and the English fans are already annoying

Euro 2016, the once-every-four-years soccer tournament between Europe's top national teams, kicks off in Paris today. Ahead of the build-up to
the games, there were plenty of security concerns, from the looming specter of Islamist violence to threats of far-right, ultra-nationalist terrorism.
So far, though, the main disturbance has come from a different source: English fans.

On Thursday evening, hundreds, perhaps thousands, of England
supporters massed in the southern port city of Marseille, the home base for their team during the month-long tournament. And some did what they have a
reputation for doing, drinking a lot, singing offensive songs and getting into fights.

some English fans had chanted "ISIS, where are you?" while
roaming the city, which is home to a large population of North African descent. ISIS is another name for the Islamic State, the violent extremist
organization that still controls territory in Iraq and Syria.

In 1998, when France hosted the World Cup, English fans got into running street
battles with locals and Tunisian supporters in Marseille. At Euro 2000 in Belgium, nearly 200 English supporters were arrested after a near-riot ahead
of a game against Germany. Pubs and city squares were smashed up. Well, you cant deny English people love their "soccer,drinking and fighting,"
it's in their
DNA....www.washingtonpost.com...
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The Telegraph quoted eyewitnesses who claimed that some English fans had chanted "ISIS, where are you?" while roaming the city, which is home
to a large population of North African descent. ISIS is another name for the Islamic State, the violent extremist organization that still controls
territory in Iraq and Syria.

Looks like our lads were just trying to solve the terrorist problem whilst having a few bevvies.

Local Marseille 'Ultras' attacked English fans who had been drinking in a part of the city.
Yes, the English fans were singing - hardly uncommon at such tournaments - but they were not causing trouble.

The English fans retaliated - as I would have done - and the media did the rest blaming everything on 'the English' as usual.

Every time England plays abroad their fans are targeted by opposing fans and are treat like cattle by local police - many police officers see it as an
opportunity to vent their anti-English bigotry.

Gone are the days when many England fans travelled looking for trouble - we are all far too old, can't be bothered or have banning orders.
The vast majority are genuine football fans - people who would never be targeted by old school football hooligans.
But they are well prepared to defend themselves when attacked by locals and opposing football 'fans'.

Hooliganism is far more common in Russia nowadays and their firms have all made it known that they were going to target England in Marseilles.
England are still viewed as the 'top' mob and every man and his dog tries to have a pop at them.

When allied with the fact that this game is being played in a city that is 60% Muslim and is renowned for anti-English sentiments then anyone with
even a limited understanding of these things must have foreseen this.

This leads one to suspect the reasoning behind scheduling such a potentially volatile game in such a venue?

Well, i think i'v been around a lot longer than you, and english soccer fans love trouble, boozing, fighting and causing mayhem whenever they
can....they are possessed when they travel abroad, unfortunately they are the new generation of troublemakers ....

Dave Tomlinson, from the Football Supporters' Federation, who is in Marseille for the match, told BBC News it had been "disappointing to see any
problems". "We understand from the reports that it's a very small minority England fans that have been involved," he said.
"We also understand that unfortunately there has been quite a lot of provocation from the French and also the Russian elements that are in the
area." www.bbc.co.uk...

Well, i think i'v been around a lot longer than you

That may be so but Freeborn is right .... Oh and it's Football not soccer.

The world relates to Soccer as the game of
"Soccer". Football has many codes around the world, Americian Gridiron FOOTBALL...,Australian league FOOTBALL, Rugby League FOOTBALL, Rugby Union
FOOTBALL etc,etc... And with regard to brawling etc, we each have our own opinion, don't we.

If by "the world" you mean America then I guess your right , in the rest of the world that isn't America the game is known as Football.
The modern global game of Football was started in 1863 in London , it is played with a ball using feet hence it's called football.
Your game has more in common with our game of rugby than the real game of football.

And with regard to brawling etc,we each have our own opinion, don't we.

Indeed we do , although in this case there are mitigating circumstances as to why it happened.

i was there thogh no involved it was about 100 fans not thousands and the trouble was started by russian hooligans not much to shout about a few
bottles thrown n shouting no fighting no arests were made thoght a couple got a batton across the legs blown out of al preportions by the media as
usual 99% of fans are very well behaved few stupid drunks dosent make a riot its called standing your ground if your intimidated by local hoods and
commie hooligans your going to defend youselves it wasnt started by the english unfortunatley due to the reputations gained in the eightys it us that
get the blame there was one small fire started but it was over as soon as it began id trust the daily mail about as much as i believe in santa todays
paper is tomorrows chip wrapper a reply to: tommo39

And exactly how qualified are you to make that statement?
Are you basing that statement on MSM reports or actual first hand experience?

I know exactly what I can base my opinion on and it most certainly isn't hysteria driven MSM accounts and it goes back to the very early '80's.

....they are possessed when they travel abroad,....

Once over a certain section of English football fans were football hooligans first and foremost.....but they only wanted to fight with like minded
fans.
Of course those disturbances caused untold upset and misery to innocent fans etc.

But even then opposing fans actively sought out English fans and either instigated or provoked confrontation safe in the knowledge that the English
would always be blamed.

And that's still the case today.

.... unfortunately they are the new generation of troublemakers ....

Yes, wannabee's and neverhasbeen's who fail to realise that those days and everything that went with it belong in the past....times move on.

Unfortunately many non-Brits fail to understand that and actively seek out English fans safe in the knowledge that MSM will always portray England as
the wrongdoer's.....and the fools will continue to lap it up!

updates iv been here for three days now todays trouble has not been started by english fans iv seen groups ov russians communicating by walki talkies
and mobiles they are actively hunting out groups of english fans the russians are the ones starting and causing the troubles but 'riots!'no theres
been a few fights im not stupid enough to wear a team shirt but from what iv seen the russians are animals the spotlights bern put on the english but
like i said from an eye witnes point its been mostly russian hooligans causing the tension most english hardcore trouble makers have there passports
taken so they cant travel the russians have a worse reputation for violence and racizm than most of europe put together

last nights crowd trouble at the game was again started by russian fans after the 91 min goal (sic) fireworks and flares were set of by russian fans
then they broke thripough bariers and attacked the english the footage from tv clearly shows this now fifa are going to sanction russia they will
probably get a fine and crowd sanctions like iv said the troubles this week have all been started by russian hooligans they atacked fans inside the
stadium this time

As it is widely known that some of their gangs and thugs are state sponsored, Putin should be given the ultimatum....get your people in order or you
lose the world cup, and the opportunuity to play in it.

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