I’m a little confused that Solaristics edited this one, since he should probably know 10-minute edits get disqualified.

Since disq reviews are boring (unless it’s another release fucked up by herkz), I figured I’d compile a list of every change in the script and bucket them into nice little categories. And then bore you even more with stupid reams of text.

Adequate, but unnecessary

This is a list of edits that changed little or added nothing to the script. This includes standardization (making sure punctuation/honorifics/ align with what the editor feels is best for the show) and minor flavor additions (adding “very”, “even”, “just” etc. to lines).

The changes A-Koi made in this section were generally for the better, but not to the point where it should affect your subtitle choice. Note that there is no analysis in this spoiler other than a list.

Spoiler:

Original:
Our day-to-day lives are replete with both happiness and misfortune.Anime-Koi:
Our day-to-day lives are brimming with both happiness and misfortune.

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Original:
Come on!Anime-Koi:
Move it!

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Original:
You call it an office,
but I’m just renting you one of my tables.Anime-Koi:
You call it an office,
but I’m only renting you one of my tables.

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Original:
So, they have requested that we, the Hamatora,Anime-Koi:
Therefore, they have requested that we, the Hamatora,

I winced when I came across this line in the HorribleSubs release. Good fix.

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Original:
We have one.
Even two of them.
The first one is a request to capture the one responsible
for the serial kidnappings of female college students in this area recently.
The second is a request from a well-established familyAnime-Koi:
We have one.
Two of them at that.
The first request is to capture the one responsible
in the recent serial kidnappings of female college students in this area.
As for the second request, it’s from a well-established family

While I’m not keen on the last line’s change, dropping the double use of “one” in the third line was a smart move.

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Original:
There are many things in this world that no one should ever know.Anime-Koi:
There are some things in this world that are better left unknown.

Far better phrased in Anime-Koi’s. It’s much more in tune with how I’ve seen the thought written before.

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Original:
We wouldn’t be in the PI business if we were afraid of risks, right, Nice?Anime-Koi:
We wouldn’t be in the PI business if we were afraid of such risks, right, Nice?

The “such” is an important addition as it refers to a specific risk (in this case, fighting other Minimum Holders) rather than risks in general (I assume they didn’t factor in the risk of getting hit by one of Kim Jong’s dolphin-delivered nuclear bombs into their work, for example).

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Original:
She just finished it.Anime-Koi:
And there goes the milk.

A-Koi’s is more comedic and thus fits the scene better.

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Original:
We were good friends,
but we just didn’t hear anything like that.Anime-Koi:
We were good friends,
but we never heard anything like that.

Poorly phrased in CR’s version.

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Original:
What do you think you’re doing to our precious client, scum?Anime-Koi:
What do you think you’re doing to our precious client, shithead?

Scumbag would’ve been fine, but scum alone is earcancerous. Good switch.

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Original:
I developed this weird habit of writing down any numbers I hear right away.Anime-Koi:
I developed this weird habit of writing down any number I hear right away.

This is debatable, but I like the use of “number” over “numbers” here because it implies she only writes down what she registers as important. “numbers” would take into account much more than just the use of “number” does.

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Original:
Oh, I know who you are.Anime-Koi:
Oh, now I know who you are.

It’s a simple addition, but it keeps the logic of the scene flowing smoother. Cause-and-effect is better highlighted.

Solaristics, please

10-minute edits are as much a sign of laziness as they are of incompetence. Edits like what I’m going to point out here are exactly why I caution people to be wary of disqualified releases.

Solar: a one-pass edit doesn’t cut it. You need to spend at least an hour on these scripts.

Spoiler:

Original:
Sometimes, I just think…
…this world has surpassed its capacity. It’s overflowing.Anime-Koi:
Sometimes, I just think…
…this world is already overflowing at its maximum capacity.

Sometimes it’s best not to try to simplify shitty Japanese philosophy as an editor. You “can’t overflow at maximum capacity”. I think you’d have been better off grabbing a TLC for this one specific section and gathering what the intent behind it was… to give it a massive rewrite. The whole section needs to go, but making it worse isn’t doing anybody any favors.

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Original:
In other words…
you can’t withdraw coins from an ATM.Anime-Koi:
In other words…
withdrawing coins from an ATM is impossible.

I really don’t want to think you heard the Japanese word for impossible here and felt compelled to shoehorn the word into the subs, but… that’s what you did, isn’t it?

The line you went with simply doesn’t fit the confines of normal human speech. “impossible” is inaccurate, since it is possible if the companies wanted to do it. They just don’t offer the option. Therefore it’s more a matter of “can’t”.

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Original:
But this is also our office, the Hamatora.Anime-Koi:
But this is also Hamatora’s office.

At this point, the viewer doesn’t know what Hamatora is. You’re supposed to be telling them. But the way you have it phrased indicates that Hamatora is a person, when it is actually the name of their detective agency.

The easiest fix would be to change your line to “But this is also our office.” because the next cut is to the “Hamatora Private Investigations Office” sign.

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Original:
Why didn’t you speak up sooner if you were here in the first place, Murasaki?Anime-Koi:
Say something sooner if you’re here, Murasaki.

Solar, no. The editor does not TL. This is because the editor is rarely equipped to do anything but a shit-ass job at the gig. Making lines more generic and Japanesey is a no-good, very bad thing.

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Original:
she seemed to be doing just fine money-wise.Anime-Koi:
she seemed to be doing just fine in terms of money.

It’s not like the new line is wrong, but why the fuck would you change it? Learn some vocab; money-wise is a thing, and that’s how the term would be used in natural dialogue.

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Original:
the safe’s contents will be set on fire and incinerated.Anime-Koi:
the safe’s contents will be set ablaze and incinerated beyond recognition.

Original:
…none of them lacked for money.Anime-Koi:
…none of them had money problems.

This isn’t the same thing. The edit you made gives a less accurate portrayal of the sugar daddy situation that’s going on in the show.

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Original:
It was never two jobs to begin with, but one… the same case.
Anime-Koi:
It was never two jobs to begin with, but one in the same.

I can only assume you misheard your mental voice of “one and the same” as “one in the same”.

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Original:
Cars aren’t meant to be thrown.Anime-Koi:
Trucks aren’t meant to be thrown.

He’s talking about both the truck the guy’s holding in this scene and the car he threw earlier. “Cars” is general enough to work just fine, but if you must change it, go with something like “vehicles”.

I’d hesitate to call this a bad line, but the logic behind the edit was wrong enough that it needs to be pointed out.

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Original:
They’re for driving.Anime-Koi:
They’re for driving, you know.

Why would you add “you know” here?

I don’t want to hear any sob stories about how Crunchyroll’s script super omg fantastic either. Here’s some absurdly low-hanging fruit you could have picked:

The master’s dead. You’d use “late” here.

“the deal”? That’s ridiculously vague and implies that she had made an agreement with these guys or their bosses. They’re trying to figure out if she knows the code.

Obviously at this point in the show it needs to obscured that that’s what they’re looking for, but “Hey, this bitch had better give us what we need!” gives a far more accurate portrayal of the situation.

This needs way too much logic connecting to make much sense on a first watch. Change “ground beef” to “patties”.

How did you let this cancer slip by you?

As a two-word question, “What kind?” would be much better. A number of things is just an amount.

I’d go with a leading phrase myself, “More specifically…”

a bad move

the wrong move

Not hard.

Way way way too generic for this scene. Remember that this line is what makes him freak the fuck out — his dad’s been fucking college-age girls. It needs to be stated directly or heavily implied that the relationships were sexual in nature.

“You think you’re hot shit, huh?”

Please add some humanity into the goddamn dialogue.

Fucking hell.

These are just a few lines as examples. If you had actually done a full, 2-pass or 3-pass edit, these would have been changed around effortlessly. Come the fuck on.

If you’re wondering what a real edit looks like, check out Commie’s Chuu2-2:

Compare that to Anime-Koi’s Hamtaro:

This is what most groups do when they edit, and it’s what they should do. Get your shit together, A-Koi.

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Fakesub reviews are just as helpful to me as regular fansub reviews. So I can appreciate all the effort you put into this review. I’d have to guess that this particular review took about as long to put together as a regular fansub review.

Glad to hear it. Also, it depends on the review. I’m usually not invested enough in a fakesub release to bother putting more than, say, half the time of a regular post into it.

This one though… yeah, I didn’t expect the whole “grab every comparison and then divvy them up” would take as long as it did. But I saved time by making it far less accessible to the average reader, so there’s that.

I find this statement rather amusing considering Commie does this whole “rip without really doing any editing” thing almost all the time themselves, most recently with Nobunaga the Fool (which you yourself pointed out). Real shame that consistency (for doing things right) isn’t one of their fortes.

No real excuse from me, but that I did a pretty poor job. I did a 1-pass edit and only 4-5 lines were TLC (that I asked for). No QC (at least it’s not listed.) But yeah, after I watched it again when it was released, I noticed a ton of errors and stuff that could’ve easily been fix.

If you’re doing episode 1 be sure to grab the v1.5 patch for us (which yes, I renamed improperly because it was nearly 3am that night). We didn’t make a new torrent because… no real reason, actually. We probably should soon.

“One in the same.” Welp. Just like how did “should of” instead of “should’ve” a while back, I’m typing words down before I even think about them because they sound similar. Most of the stuff you pointed out could’ve easily been fixed with another pass or two. Oh well.

Not really making fun. Some mispellings made by Aussies were pointed out to me by a non-Aussie guy ~22 months ago so I can’t recall it but it probably had (something) to do with misspellings made due to speaking English in a non-r(h)ot(h)ic way. Anyway, as I implied after second thought, not only do native speakers of certain (all?) English dialects misspell words in a way that seems illogical to intermediate ESL students; it’s vice-versa.