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__________________James 1:16-17 ESVDo not be deceived, my beloved brothers. Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights With God's help...Mens sana in corpore sano

Nice work....I like your farmer's walk apparatus....we are going to build one as well. I def need it to increase my grip strength and help my forearms grow.

Thanks, I think the apparatus is pretty solid. We'll see how it holds up over time. I am also hoping for some forearm growth out of them.

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Diet Question for anyone with the knowledge:

Why would my bodyweight be lower the day after a refeed?

Here is the scenario, the last few days I was 187, then the morning of the refeed I was 185. So I was clearly depleted going into the refeed, I thought for sure there was going to be a weight rebound up to 187 or higher simple due to the extra glycogen and water from all the carbs I ate on my refeed day.

Well, I woke up today (I refed yesterday) and I weighed 184! A pound lighter than before the refeed and 3 pounds lighter than I had been weighing. Crazy.

Daily carbs up to 430g from 229g. Workout carbs went from 92g to 136g. So that is 255 extra grams of carbs. Calories were nearly 1000 higher than normal. The extra carbs came from oatmeal.

I would live to hear people's thoughts.

So today I haven't been strict on my diet, I added in some higher GI carbs (cheerios, toast, sweet potato fries) that I wouldn't normally have. I just figured 184 was too low too fast so I might as well refeed one more day and see what happens.

__________________James 1:16-17 ESVDo not be deceived, my beloved brothers. Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights With God's help...Mens sana in corpore sano

Here is the scenario, the last few days I was 187, then the morning of the refeed I was 185. So I was clearly depleted going into the refeed, I thought for sure there was going to be a weight rebound up to 187 or higher simple due to the extra glycogen and water from all the carbs I ate on my refeed day.

Well, I woke up today (I refed yesterday) and I weighed 184! A pound lighter than before the refeed and 3 pounds lighter than I had been weighing. Crazy.

Daily carbs up to 430g from 229g. Workout carbs went from 92g to 136g. So that is 255 extra grams of carbs. Calories were nearly 1000 higher than normal. The extra carbs came from oatmeal.

I would live to hear people's thoughts.

So today I haven't been strict on my diet, I added in some higher GI carbs (cheerios, toast, sweet potato fries) that I wouldn't normally have. I just figured 184 was too low too fast so I might as well refeed one more day and see what happens.[/quote]

I have no idea but I hope that happens to me after the buck double and bacon cheeseburger I had for lunch and the cake I had after it lol. \

The only thing I can think of is water weight or if you weighted yourself at a different time.

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I have no idea but I hope that happens to me after the buck double and bacon cheeseburger I had for lunch and the cake I had after it lol. \

Good luck.

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Originally Posted by superbilt

The only thing I can think of is water weight or if you weighted yourself at a different time.

Yeah, I just assumed I would retain more water after those carbs. I weighed myself at the same time, immediately upon waking.

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Originally Posted by bigbear6708

commander, whats your workout shake looking like? you utilize 96 grams of carbs on a cut...thats what I use normally..lol, am i too low??

32g Malt, 54g Dex and a few carbs from the whey (and 2 tspn BCAA, 1tspn Creatine and some sodium). On refeed day it was some extra dextrose for 32g Malt, 95g Dex.

ABC PWO calculator (from when I was 200lbs and around 180 lean mass - well I probably had less lean mass than that, but that was the number I used for the calculator) gave me:

1.7 litres water
44g protein
90g carbs

So my normal carbs were right inline with ABC's recommendation. I don't think I would decrease this even on a cut. I might decrease carbs at all other times of the day but para-workout seems like a great time to ingest a bunch of carbs.

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Off Last Night

Mowed grass, weedwacked, my children and I organized their outdoor toys into throw away, give away and keep piles, then I organized my shed. It took forever. But it was worth it, my 5 year old was especially excited to clean off the toys we were giving away. He wants some other kids to enjoy them.

__________________James 1:16-17 ESVDo not be deceived, my beloved brothers. Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights With God's help...Mens sana in corpore sano

You must be able to tolerate carbs well. I never use more than 20 on a cut and it is from milk.

__________________
HOOAH!
Discipline makes you mentally and physically tough!
Currently making everything stronger!!
Once I stick to the program I am going to get really strong.
NO LIMITS!!http://www.youtube.com/user/ironbilt727

__________________James 1:16-17 ESVDo not be deceived, my beloved brothers. Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights With God's help...Mens sana in corpore sano

I am really liking the heavy ropes, felt great for shoulders, lats, grip and core.

__________________James 1:16-17 ESVDo not be deceived, my beloved brothers. Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights With God's help...Mens sana in corpore sano

Rest until I catch my breath, repeat twice. At 234 lb, I was able to hold the farmers walk implements for the entire 200 ft, the 100ft turning point was really hard, but I prevailed. Next time I will go heavier on the tire drag. Final round I went about 200ft each way for the tire.

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3 hard days in a row, looking forward to a day of rest tomorrow.

__________________James 1:16-17 ESVDo not be deceived, my beloved brothers. Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights With God's help...Mens sana in corpore sano