STUDENTS were rendered silent as they took a sombre tour of a concentration camp where 1.2million people were killed.

The Dorset students journeyed to Auschwitz as part of an educational programme designed to keep the memory of the Holocaust alive.

Sixth formers from The Thomas Hardye School in Dorchester, Beaminster School, Sir John Colfox School in Bridport, The Purbeck School in Wareham and Woodroffe School in Lyme Regis, took the one-day trip to Poland with the Holocaust Educational Trust.

They were taken to the Auschwitz-Birkenau Museum and Memorial after flying from Exeter Airport to Krakow.

Nearly 200 youngsters from schools across the South West were shown around the concentration camp, where 1.2million people, mainly Jews, were killed during the Second World War.

The students walked alongside the train tracks at Birkenau where thousands of ill-fated prisoners arrived.

They passed through displays at Auschwitz containing floor to ceiling piles of shorn hair, spectacles and shoes belonging to those who were killed.

Two students from each school took part in the Lessons from Auschwitz project, which is sponsored by a government grant and heavily subsidised by the trust. Students are asked to complete a ‘Next Steps’ project on their return from Poland.

Ned Mumford, a Year 12 student at Hardye’s, said: “We went to a seminar to prepare for our visit but I don’t think anything could have really prepared us for how it would be seeing Auschwitz for ourselves.

“We’re going to do an assembly for all the years in our school. We want to tell everyone about what we saw and how it made us feel and we need to convey that to everyone else.”

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Least we for forget the other Dictator Joseph Stalan. Estimated to have killed 20 million people over a period of thirty years of ruling Russia. Like Hitler he had absolutely no regard for the sanctity of human life.

Least we for forget the other Dictator Joseph Stalan. Estimated to have killed 20 million people over a period of thirty years of ruling Russia. Like Hitler he had absolutely no regard for the sanctity of human life.shy talk

shy talk wrote:
Least we for forget the other Dictator Joseph Stalan. Estimated to have killed 20 million people over a period of thirty years of ruling Russia. Like Hitler he had absolutely no regard for the sanctity of human life.

Yes it's funny how propaganda is so different form the truth.

" An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people"
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In fact under Bolsheviks the number is believed to be between 60-100 million.

Another thing that has always made me curious, why is it years ago we are told 6 million Jews were killed, yet the plaque at Birkenau said 4 million, in 1995 under further scrutiny this was lowered to 1.5 million...so why do we still keep hearing 6 million ( even said in the echo some weeks back) when clearly this should be reduced by 2.5 million at least?

What is even more disturbing is these clandestine and oppressive laws being introduced that make it a crime to even ask questions like this? Wonder if anyone has answers without the usual hysteria and name calling?

[quote][p][bold]shy talk[/bold] wrote:
Least we for forget the other Dictator Joseph Stalan. Estimated to have killed 20 million people over a period of thirty years of ruling Russia. Like Hitler he had absolutely no regard for the sanctity of human life.[/p][/quote]Yes it's funny how propaganda is so different form the truth.
" An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people"
http://www.ynetnews.
com/articles/0%2C734
0%2CL-3342999%2C00.h
tml
In fact under Bolsheviks the number is believed to be between 60-100 million.
Another thing that has always made me curious, why is it years ago we are told 6 million Jews were killed, yet the plaque at Birkenau said 4 million, in 1995 under further scrutiny this was lowered to 1.5 million...so why do we still keep hearing 6 million ( even said in the echo some weeks back) when clearly this should be reduced by 2.5 million at least?
What is even more disturbing is these clandestine and oppressive laws being introduced that make it a crime to even ask questions like this? Wonder if anyone has answers without the usual hysteria and name calling?Sigurd Hoberth

shy talk wrote:
Least we for forget the other Dictator Joseph Stalan. Estimated to have killed 20 million people over a period of thirty years of ruling Russia. Like Hitler he had absolutely no regard for the sanctity of human life.

Yes it's funny how propaganda is so different form the truth.

&quot; An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people"
http://www.ynetnews.

com/articles/0%2C734

0%2CL-3342999%2C00.h

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In fact under Bolsheviks the number is believed to be between 60-100 million.

Another thing that has always made me curious, why is it years ago we are told 6 million Jews were killed, yet the plaque at Birkenau said 4 million, in 1995 under further scrutiny this was lowered to 1.5 million...so why do we still keep hearing 6 million ( even said in the echo some weeks back) when clearly this should be reduced by 2.5 million at least?

What is even more disturbing is these clandestine and oppressive laws being introduced that make it a crime to even ask questions like this? Wonder if anyone has answers without the usual hysteria and name calling?

I think there is some truth in what you write. The Simon Wiesenthal organisation was very effective at propaganda (one example being the airbrushed photos with smoke added to chimneys). I also think that this period has been very effectively exploited by the Israeli government to justify oppression of Arabs within and without its borders ("The Other Side of Israel" by Susan Abraham, a Jew who returned to Israel, is well worth a read to show the extent to which the persecution takes place). It is also used, very effectively, by the left, who are very good at using "the next step will be the gas chambers" as an effective put down to any argument about immigration, end of life care, etc.
All of this said, it personally doesn't bother me if it was 6 million Jews, 1 million Jews or 10,000 Jews. The Holocaust happened, and it was horrific. We should not forget. We should also not forget the other major 20th century slaughters, because there were far more than one.

[quote][p][bold]Sigurd Hoberth[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]shy talk[/bold] wrote:
Least we for forget the other Dictator Joseph Stalan. Estimated to have killed 20 million people over a period of thirty years of ruling Russia. Like Hitler he had absolutely no regard for the sanctity of human life.[/p][/quote]Yes it's funny how propaganda is so different form the truth.
" An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people"
http://www.ynetnews.
com/articles/0%2C734
0%2CL-3342999%2C00.h
tml
In fact under Bolsheviks the number is believed to be between 60-100 million.
Another thing that has always made me curious, why is it years ago we are told 6 million Jews were killed, yet the plaque at Birkenau said 4 million, in 1995 under further scrutiny this was lowered to 1.5 million...so why do we still keep hearing 6 million ( even said in the echo some weeks back) when clearly this should be reduced by 2.5 million at least?
What is even more disturbing is these clandestine and oppressive laws being introduced that make it a crime to even ask questions like this? Wonder if anyone has answers without the usual hysteria and name calling?[/p][/quote]I think there is some truth in what you write. The Simon Wiesenthal organisation was very effective at propaganda (one example being the airbrushed photos with smoke added to chimneys). I also think that this period has been very effectively exploited by the Israeli government to justify oppression of Arabs within and without its borders ("The Other Side of Israel" by Susan Abraham, a Jew who returned to Israel, is well worth a read to show the extent to which the persecution takes place). It is also used, very effectively, by the left, who are very good at using "the next step will be the gas chambers" as an effective put down to any argument about immigration, end of life care, etc.
All of this said, it personally doesn't bother me if it was 6 million Jews, 1 million Jews or 10,000 Jews. The Holocaust happened, and it was horrific. We should not forget. We should also not forget the other major 20th century slaughters, because there were far more than one.JamesYoung

Don't get me wrong, I am no denier or have any specific problems with Jewish people before the usual idiots start. I do have a problem with History being lied about or "revised" disingenuously. Sadly the more you look, the more you realise most of what we are taught as kids is B.S.

I think it is an insult to those who really did die, to make propaganda of it that is not truthful, as eventually it will undermine the genuine aspect of it. I have read a good few articles in Ynet and you will find others speak of the "Holocaust industry" there, which surprised me I must say. . I think it really is time that we say NO to these horrid laws that are stifling free speech (Australia is just having this denial nonsense accepted I understand) and accept that so much of history is lied about.

We have had much pressure on us in the West over the last few decades to accept some of your wrong doings over the centuries and we have, as of course we should. I think it is time the Jewish people opened up on this subject and accepted their major part in the biggest holocaust in all History , in Russia.

I can think of nothing more disgusting than lying about history, even if it is uncomfortable, all that does is make sure it repeats itself.

Appreciate the adult response James.
Don't get me wrong, I am no denier or have any specific problems with Jewish people before the usual idiots start. I do have a problem with History being lied about or "revised" disingenuously. Sadly the more you look, the more you realise most of what we are taught as kids is B.S.
I think it is an insult to those who really did die, to make propaganda of it that is not truthful, as eventually it will undermine the genuine aspect of it. I have read a good few articles in Ynet and you will find others speak of the "Holocaust industry" there, which surprised me I must say. . I think it really is time that we say NO to these horrid laws that are stifling free speech (Australia is just having this denial nonsense accepted I understand) and accept that so much of history is lied about.
We have had much pressure on us in the West over the last few decades to accept some of your wrong doings over the centuries and we have, as of course we should. I think it is time the Jewish people opened up on this subject and accepted their major part in the biggest holocaust in all History , in Russia.
I can think of nothing more disgusting than lying about history, even if it is uncomfortable, all that does is make sure it repeats itself.Sigurd Hoberth

There is no mention of the country that actually masterminded and perpetrated the Holocaust: Germany. Poland was invaded, occupied and brutalized by Nazi Germany, but it is the only country named in the article, which could be misleading to your readers. Non-Jewish Polish people were the second largest group of victims in the Nazi-German concentration camp, Auschwitz. Please do not be ambiguous about who bears the responsibility!

There is no mention of the country that actually masterminded and perpetrated the Holocaust: Germany. Poland was invaded, occupied and brutalized by Nazi Germany, but it is the only country named in the article, which could be misleading to your readers. Non-Jewish Polish people were the second largest group of victims in the Nazi-German concentration camp, Auschwitz. Please do not be ambiguous about who bears the responsibility!Iwonka

Iwonka wrote:
There is no mention of the country that actually masterminded and perpetrated the Holocaust: Germany. Poland was invaded, occupied and brutalized by Nazi Germany, but it is the only country named in the article, which could be misleading to your readers. Non-Jewish Polish people were the second largest group of victims in the Nazi-German concentration camp, Auschwitz. Please do not be ambiguous about who bears the responsibility!

You make a very valid point. What of those in the camps who were not Jewish and there was many, they are never really mentioned in the propaganda of these articles? Were their numbers added to the holocaust statistics also?

[quote][p][bold]Iwonka[/bold] wrote:
There is no mention of the country that actually masterminded and perpetrated the Holocaust: Germany. Poland was invaded, occupied and brutalized by Nazi Germany, but it is the only country named in the article, which could be misleading to your readers. Non-Jewish Polish people were the second largest group of victims in the Nazi-German concentration camp, Auschwitz. Please do not be ambiguous about who bears the responsibility![/p][/quote]You make a very valid point. What of those in the camps who were not Jewish and there was many, they are never really mentioned in the propaganda of these articles? Were their numbers added to the holocaust statistics also?Sigurd Hoberth

In fact, as more food for thought, as opposed to blind acceptance of indoctrine, i think this video is very interesting. I do not personally validate its contents or in any way affirm them but I think it is interesting from an historical debate perspective.

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=SEqF4YQL
hdw

In fact, as more food for thought, as opposed to blind acceptance of indoctrine, i think this video is very interesting. I do not personally validate its contents or in any way affirm them but I think it is interesting from an historical debate perspective.
https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=SEqF4YQL
hdwSigurd Hoberth

Half the kids now,do not even know that there was a war,never mind who did what to who.

Little Cherubs, if only they knew what is coming,but as for now (if it is not on facebook its not reality)
Oh what an awakening they have coming in the next 50 years. LOL

Half the kids now,do not even know that there was a war,never mind who did what to who.
Little Cherubs, if only they knew what is coming,but as for now (if it is not on facebook its not reality)
Oh what an awakening they have coming in the next 50 years. LOLwestbaywonder

westbaywonder wrote:
Half the kids now,do not even know that there was a war,never mind who did what to who.

Little Cherubs, if only they knew what is coming,but as for now (if it is not on facebook its not reality)
Oh what an awakening they have coming in the next 50 years. LOL

For the assistance of debate, a quick search of the Echo reveals 17 articles of holocaust related material, mostly in propaganda format, in just the three months of this year already. In the entire history of this papers archives, not ONE article exists solely about the Russian bolshevik ( jewish) holocaust of between 20 and 100 million people in Russia...or pretty much any other genocide. Any reasonable person should be curious about this and ask why?

[quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote:
Half the kids now,do not even know that there was a war,never mind who did what to who.
Little Cherubs, if only they knew what is coming,but as for now (if it is not on facebook its not reality)
Oh what an awakening they have coming in the next 50 years. LOL[/p][/quote]For the assistance of debate, a quick search of the Echo reveals 17 articles of holocaust related material, mostly in propaganda format, in just the three months of this year already. In the entire history of this papers archives, not ONE article exists solely about the Russian bolshevik ( jewish) holocaust of between 20 and 100 million people in Russia...or pretty much any other genocide. Any reasonable person should be curious about this and ask why?Sigurd Hoberth

shy talk wrote:
Least we for forget the other Dictator Joseph Stalan. Estimated to have killed 20 million people over a period of thirty years of ruling Russia. Like Hitler he had absolutely no regard for the sanctity of human life.

true, nearly shot himself in the foot by purging his own army officers, whats hard to believe is that some old people in RUSSIA would prefer him to life in Russia today

[quote][p][bold]shy talk[/bold] wrote:
Least we for forget the other Dictator Joseph Stalan. Estimated to have killed 20 million people over a period of thirty years of ruling Russia. Like Hitler he had absolutely no regard for the sanctity of human life.[/p][/quote]true, nearly shot himself in the foot by purging his own army officers, whats hard to believe is that some old people in RUSSIA would prefer him to life in Russia todayoldbrock