Monday, June 6, 2016

June Open Discussion

412 comments:

Thought I would kick off a new post with the laughable Becks lack of self awareness.///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Jackie has left a new comment on the post "Recap: Kate Plus 8 ''Blind Date": Realitytvkids.co...":

I can't speak for admin, but I really doubt that any of us wants to be known as a hater's blog, and I don't think that admin does, either. Expose them, maybe, critique them for their grifting, yes, but not hate.0000000000000000000000000000000

Call it whatever you want but I believe any outside eyes reading this blog would call it a hater's blog. That word is used so easily this day. They sure wouldn't call it anything with panache. No offense. We are what we are. We are non fans that get categorized as haters. It is a truth.

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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator has left a new comment on the post "Recap: Kate Plus 8 ''Blind Date": Realitytvkids.co...":

A hater is someone who hates for hate's sake. Nearly every celeb has "haters" and those people are often just trolls or mentally ill.

Then there are the critics. Critical thinkers don't agree with something or someone and present reasoned explanations why, with specific examples and citations to back up their points. Critics are able to see the good while still pointing out the bad.

We have done exactly that untoward amounts of times. Marginalizing it as hate is fine, but it doesn't make it so.

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Becks, you and most of the people who post at 15 fall under the category of 'mentally ill' (your words) not 'critical thinkers'. lol

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator has left a new comment on the post "Recap: Kate Plus 8 ''Blind Date": Realitytvkids.co...":

Oh, and I'm not starting a Buzzes blog. I'll pass the sword on that one. The discussion about them has been interesting though. I think they are students of reality TV multiples, and are capitalizing on their knowledge of the history of famous multiples. At each and every calculated turn.

In terms of street smarts, they blow Kate out of the water. Like she'd ever crack a textbook.

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But, but I thought your blog was about all realitytvkids? Why don't you just own it and call it wehatekate blog?

Tucker's Mom has left a new comment on the post "Recap: Kate Plus 8 ''Blind Date": Realitytvkids.co...":

Trina said... 113Why do you HOPE Cara gets to see them? Isn't that creepy as fans fawning over them? Don't you have real people in your life you can hope for? We have no idea if Cara is into field hockey/lacrosse anymore. It is none of our business and we should not even speculate.

Trina*****First of all, Trina, I wasn't speculating, so go look that work up, ok? Secondly, how on earth is it creepy to hope that a kid who's worked her entire life gets to enjoy the one thing that her mother lets her do that has never involved filming?How about this? Stop stalking the posts on this blog and go get some fresh air outside. Maybe catch some sunshine. It's good for your bones.And I'm donning my hip waders AGAIN. Only a troll can take an utterly BENIGN and kind sentiment and turn it ugly.Really, who's creepy here?////////////////////////

Wowser has left a new comment on the post "Recap: Kate Plus 8 ''Blind Date": Realitytvkids.co...":

Well thank goodness you put up a new post so that the other hater blog has something to talk about in their June blog. Lol (note...they didn't have one until you did a recap...thank God you give them something to write about) ///////////////////////////////////////////////////

"First of all, Trina, I wasn't speculating, so go look that work up, ok?"

Oh look, Tucker's is sharing her passion for looking up words. She stopped just short of telling Trina to make sure to look up the really big words and use them to sound pretentious when posting on some hater's blog.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 129And your rationalization that you are critical thinkers, not haters, doesn't make it so.

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I have very clearely explained the difference betwee reasoned criticism backed up by specific examples, versus just hate. You can choose what to believe or not believe no matter how irrational you are being, but please don't troll here just to stir the pot so you have something to post about elsewhere. Everyone here knows exactly what you are doing. It's very rude and manipulative.

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Becks, and we have clearly explained to you why you are full of shit.

And since you have brought up about being 'rude and manipulative' that is you to a T. You manipulate your regulars by putting through some comments and not others. When you want to act all victimish and the cupcake you put through the critical comments about you so your handful of people will tell you how wonderful you are. You are rude when you don't put the comments through yet attack the writer of the comments.

Lets get real here, ok. You have the same person commenting under more than a few names. They deliberately bait you by saying it is me Sage or Sagette? You and some others get all self righteous and tell us to leave when in reality it is one of your regulars who is doing it. Then the same person comes here and stirs the pot. I am not new to this rodeo and neither are you. If you can't see this you are dumber than I thought or you enjoy being a victim....were mommy and daddy really that bad?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator has left a new comment on the post "Recap: Kate Plus 8 ''Blind Date": Realitytvkids.co...":

Jackie, who was trying to create fodder for another blog, first tried to get folks to bite on Buzzes "hate." When there were no takers for that bait, she then got frustrated and a lot more direct and just out-and-out called us haters. So transparent. /////////////////////////////////

LOL Becks, now you say its transparent after reading here. Admit it already! I know you read here!

ps you are missing the mark.....again. Someday when I have time I will email you and explain it all.

Bwa Ha Ha! Becks is really full of herself tonight. Tracking and mocking Milo's every tweet, lying and gossiping about Kate and her kids is Beck's idea of critical thinking skills? It's those kinds of minds that come together to swallow BL's tall tales such as it is illegal under PA law for Kate to relieve Jon of his child support obligation. Bl swore up and down that it couldn't be done once the order was in place. It's always their pattern to skip over and ignore those awkward moments where they couldn't be more wrong.

As far as being rude, how many of Beck's posters has she chased off her with condescending attitude and her relentless need to be declared Queen of Right?

I thought no blog on blog talk was allowed there. And people are supposed to let things go and move on instead of fighting. So why put posts through that violate that? Well, posts were put through with people outright calling Mady a bitch and talking in unflattering terms about weight, pimply commplexions, bad attitudes, bad teeth, etc. Of the kids! There was no rule against that (though IMO there should be), but even so, why have rules if posts violating them are put through anyway?

These people think they really know Jon and Kate. LOL Again trying to make Jon a saint. Here is my take I will use facts that we know them.

Jon: Living with his fourth girlfriend in her house. Failed many 'careers' and is now DJing for high school proms and eight grade dances. Does not see all his kids. Was filmed masturbating on a Dlist TV show. Will probably never grow up.

Kate: Has legal and physical custody of eight kids which takes a pile of money to raise. No moving boyfriends in and out of house or her kids lives. No support from kids father.//////////////////////////////////////

Turtle (AKA Amy2) has left a new comment on the post "Recap: Kate Plus 8 ''Blind Date": Realitytvkids.co...":

Here's my opinion of where the players are today after all these years of being in the limelight

Jon: Moved on with his life, has a good job (DJ), has a girl friend, sees his children (hopefully all of them) and probably (just speculation) starting to rebuild himself financially, has friends and family.

The children: getting older, still in the limelight and on TV. Time will tell what affect all this has had on them. Financially, I hope their money has been set aside for them after all their hard work.

Kate: Sitting on a big pile of money, 1 or 2 friends, no family, bitter towards Jon, continues to try to get back in the media, her star has faded

Society: What impact has this show had on society as a whole when children's real lives are exposed for the public to see and comment on.

Looking forward: Hopefully continue to shine a light on the injustice of children being forced to work on reality TV with few laws to protect them.

Next generation: There will be another Jon&Kate+8 with other families (Busbys) until the viewer gets tired of this type of entertainment.

Good Lord! You would think these children are being filmed 24/7, 365 days a year, when they are just living their lives and going to school. When was the last time these people who know Jon and Kate saw the kids on TV? and how many shows were seen in the last season, which was filmed a year ago? Maybe eight tops? They need to update their mantra because they are woefully out of date.

I watched the Busby's last night... Sweet family with beautiful children. When will the haters begin to report them to the authorities for child abuse?

Are the bleeps so dense that they think that if they haven't seen or heard Kate say something, it hasn't happened? (That was a rhetorical question, of course!) They can't grasp the fact that they know almost nothing about Kate's life, so they make it up.

Gotta love how Tucker's Mom is able to speak for the entire continent of North America!

Tucker's Mom said... 1

Kate's not going to change anyone's mind, or win any new fans at this point, except for those overseas who are not clued into the full picture."I am a bad mother" (paraphrasing, I think...it's been awhile since I saw the promo) isn't going to be met with "Oh, no Kate, you shouldn't think that! We think you're an amazing mom! Really!".

The main thing that makes people think she's a bad mother is using her kids for money and fame, and making them work. That's not changed.Well, also how she treated Jon.

Pretty sure Midnight Madness could just as easily be describing PA Dutch Mom and her insatiable quest to make everyone believe that a) she has deep insider knowledge about all things Gosselin and b) that Jon is a saint. ***************************************************************************Midnight Madness said... 37As they say, bless her heart. She really tries to smooth out the wrinkles, as futile as her attempts are at making any reasonable excuse for someone not tweeting!

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I think that she does it because of her ego. She wants people to believe that she knows Kate, keeps in contact with her, is kept up to date on Kate's whereabouts, and has Kate's permission to answer for her. She thrives on the attention and elevating herself to the position of Chief Executive Ewe. Bless her little cloven hoof.

librarylady has left a new comment on the post "Recap: Kate Plus 8 ''Blind Date": Realitytvkids.co...":

NOIP 43...Heavens, no, there is no way I'd have a "ping" of anything related to her or anyone else, lol. I actually don't have any personal twitter or social media. I happened to be observing a class that was showing folks how social media works, and my coworker sometimes uses names in the media to demonstrate twitter searching and also good/bad things about social media. Always gets a roomful of laughing groans with Kate's name so she uses it occasionally to demonstrate searching and keep things light, lol. (I guess she has to be careful and checks beforehand with media names because so much is too ugly on there for viewing, yet she has to make it interesting - just searching, say, "turtles" doesn't hold much interest.)////////////////////////////////////

I just don't get these people. On the one hand they say no one pays any attention to Kate and her limelight has dimmed. On the other hand we have people who always seem to have a Kate moment pop up.

I don't believe this BS for one minute. Liabrarylady and the rest just have Kate on their minds 24/7 and incorporate her into their everyday life. They daydream about her. Creepy.

Over And Out has left a new comment on the post "Recap: Kate Plus 8 ''Blind Date": Realitytvkids.co...":

What's really funny with trolls like Jackie is that we know exactly what they are doing (stirring the pot), but they don't know that we know! They just plod along, doing the same thing. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different result, or so said Albert.

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Well clap clap. One of you is finally sort of getting it. The thing is it is one of you who is doing it. Hint: they are playing you.

Why does the handful of regulars at 15 insist that anyone who calls Becks out on her crap is a troll? Certainly they can tell by the dwindling number of posters that people are fed up with leader there. So, once in a while a non-regular poster pops up and says something to call Becks out. That doesn't mean the poster is a troll. In my opinion, it means the poster has a brain.Of course Tucker's will then weigh in and make some snippy comment. And PA Dutch will add her 2 cents, and for good measure she will remind everyone how well she knows the G kids personally, but just can't share any details. Ugh.And their grand finale is always to state that the dissenting poster is, in reality, Sage.

The bleeps,who monitor every character posted on Kate's twitter timeline, are too dense to comprehend that Kate, who has never been very prolific on Twitter...especially in the last few months...is under no obligation to suddenly appear and post about a sad event that is in no way connected to her. Is every single celebrity supposed to post every time a tragedy happens somewhere in the world?

Does BL ever shut her stupid mouth? "the worst we have here is Kim Davis"!?!?!?!Does she believe that in America no one was ever killed or attacked because they were gay? We have far worse than Kim Davis.She also immediately jumped to the conclusion that because the shooter was Muslim, he was not American. Yeah, the sick guy was an American, so guess what we have here Bl.She's so friggin ignorant and they lap it up.

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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 94

Prayers to the families and friends of the mass shooting victims in Florida. I think we'll find out they were targeted because they were gay.

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They're actually calling it terrorism. The shooter was Muslim and had connections to Islamic extremists. The Islamic extremist are very anti-gay, if I recall correctly. The worst we have here is Kim Davis, but at least she isn't KILLING anyone. Trump is going to be all over this one. June 12, 2016 at 7:30 AM

Why does Kate need to tweet about the tragedy in Florida? Why does anyone? If she did it, they would pick apart the tweet word by word and analyze every single syllable and its hidden meaning, since she would only tweet because it benefited her in some way. Because she must need free paper towels or expects a trip to the White House or something.

Again, Kate's twitter is the center of the universe. I get a kick out of their double standard. It's fine for Jon to post pics of his kids, Jon hasn't tweeted condolences and sadness at great loss of life that took place in Florida. Jon doesn't immediately shut down his twitter when porn appears. Yet, all of that is put on Kate.

In regards to the killing of the young woman who was a star of The Voice, they immediately brought up how Kate is over-friendly with twitter fans. They always speculate about Milo becoming unhinged. But, BL was the one who showed up to hassle Kate and was escorted away.

Even though BL constantly praises Jon for being so friendly, she believes Jon handles everything A-ok. Jon was a source for Bl's blog. He and Ellen were very friendly with the haters, he always referred to his twitter followers as friends and still does.

One of the first thing Jon did when he opened his new twitter was to post pics of two women patrons who were not in awe of DJ skills. He called them haters.

Maybe she doesn't even know it happened. I just found out and it's late in the afternoon. We moved several yards of bark in the yard and I ran 9 miles in anticipation of a race next week - the same one Kate was accused of cheating in. (I'll report back on the scooter she supposedly rode on, because I may need it. I am not ready for this race.) I got on the computer and saw the news at 4 pm. Shame on me for not doing the right thing and tweeting my condolences out to the twitterverse!

Her comment that the worst we have here is Kim Davis is one of the most offensive things she's ever said, which is saying a lot. I'm sure that Matthew Shepherd's family would dispute her contention that "we" don't kill gay people in this country. And her assumption that someone can't be both Muslim and American speaks both to her bigotry and her ignorance.

Meanwhile, nothing gets past that genius Tucker's Mom: "Prayers to the families and friends of the mass shooting victims in Florida. I think we'll find out they were targeted because they were gay." Gee, ya think?

The worst we have is NOT Kim Davis. Good grief. Gay people are targeted all the time. I can think of a handful of cases here where the victim died, and many more where they were 'only' assaulted and survived. There are also missing people who are never found. No terrorism involved. No Kim Davis either. Taxi drivers, rednecks, frat boys, angry parents, and others committed these murders of gay people. It just doesn't make national news. I'm sure each of you can think of at least one in your area too. Kim Davis my ass.

I must admit that BL is cracking me up today. She is busy advising the Busbys on how to be "humble" and questioning their defensiveness, even going so far as to craft a response to their critics for them. Add PR Specialist to the long list of BL's areas of expertise.

Helllloooo? I must have missed all those humble, non-defensive posts she's made in response to anyone who dares to question or disagree with HER. It's a pity self-awareness is not required to pass the Bar, or her poor clients wouldn't be stuck with an attorney who spends half the work day talking about Kate Gosselin on the Internet. ********************************Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 113

I do agree that people who end up doing reality tv like this are not going to be able to easily avoid the pitfalls. Their extreme defensiveness and arrogant is actually a huge red flag for me. The more they insist this is NOT about greed, the less I believe them. Someone who is truly in it for all the right reasons wouldn't be on the defensive all the time. They are. I believe they know darn well what their real motives are, and are highly guarded as a result less they get out.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 118

I think they'd go a lot further if they took a more humble approach with the well-meaning criticism. Something like, "we appreciate the concern and what's more, we understand it. We are going to do everything in our power to make sure this experience is all positive for us and our girls. But, as we are only human, we are bound to fall short at one time or another. We are counting on you to let us know when we get too close to that fine line. We want to keep an open dialogue both with you our fans, and on the subject of this evolving issue of children and reality TV. The only solution to ensure children are not damaged by being on TV is to never put them on it in the first place. But, we have made an informed decision to do so. We want you to know though that we are well aware children on TV can be treated much better than they have been in the past, and our goal is to ensure we are leaders in creating the most protective environment possibly for reality TV kids."

Sorry, I am commenting too much but that Kim Davis thing really chaps my hide. My three dearest lifelong friends are gay and I have a couple of gay cousins I adore too. They are hated by many simply for who they are. I don't really like Wikipedia, but here is a list. Do any of you see Kim Davis' name here? I sure don't.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LGBT_people_in_the_United_States

Ignorance has never stopped the Beckspert. Kate couldn't top the ignorance displayed by Becky today no matter how hard she tried.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 139

I think her lack of tweets about ANYTHING everyone else is talking about ever is more due to her total lack of awareness.

But, a tiny part of me wonders if she's too afraid of her own ignorance to venture out into the big scary world of tweeting about current events. I think she knows she's said some dumb things over time, and I think she's embarrassed. Embarrassed enough to just tell herself it's better off not to even go there in the first place, and be ridiculed for acting like you don't care or are not paying attention....than to tweet something about it that comes across as stupid.

Nameless & PJ, I agree with both of you. Yes, unfortunately in my area, I can think of much of more than one violent crime in which a person was targeted because they were gay. Bl's words were outrageous. How sweet it would be if the most difficult hurdle facing the gay community was one narrow-minded, holier-than-thou, opinionated clerk in a backwoods county refusing to validate marriage licenses.

For those watching BL argue with the unnamed poster, here is a real gem evidencing BL's delusions:"That being said, it is very difficult to sneak your way onto an airplane if you are on a do not fly list. But it is very easy to break the law if you are on a do not own a gun list, do not buy drugs list, do not commit murder list. The differences are so blatant that seems like a comparison of very little value. If only all crimes could be banned with as much effectiveness as do not fly lists. Obviously for almost all crimes, that's not possible."

All the poor BL can do at this point is to make up scenarios, such as "do not murder list" to try to bolster her point. The unnamed poster has completely obliterated any argument BL had and called her out on all of her contradictions. It would be entertaining if not such a horribly raw subject right now.

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Milo has her panties in a bunch again about the porn. She says that Kate has "left the building for a while", but she obviously wouldn't approve of the porn bots!June 13, 2016 at 6:18 PM

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This porn thing has really brought some levity in the midst of some very scary current events.

Milo is true to form, so self righteous and pearl clutching with it. My Kate would NEVER! (Hey Milo, it's really not that big a deal if you want to look at a photo of a woman in lingerie with a big butt. If big butts do it for you, have at it).

OK, I have never commented on comments, but this made me laugh. The ever-present TM commented that Kate got the paps to wait for her in Australia. No. The Sydney airport is small and there is one United flight from Los Angeles per day. The paps camp out there to see if any celebs get off that flight. I've only been there once, and they were there when we arrived, and also when we went back, as that inbound plane turns right around and heads back to the states (verified by a flight attendant). On the way back, I asked who they were waiting for and they said Katy Perry might be on the plane coming in. My husband used to go there once or twice a year and he said they were always there (at 6:30 am!). Just one or maybe two. He asked if someone tips them off and they said not really, but there's a good chance they can catch someone most of the time. Kate did NOT have them waiting just for her. That is hilarious!

So now Kate is being taken to task not only for not tweeting about Orlando, but for not tweeting about the singer who was murdered. Funny, but I didn't see all those bitching about Kate's non-tweets posting their condolences on the BL's before ripping into Kate. Where is Fidosmommy's post about Orlando? Where is her post about the singer? Is she a narcissist who will never think to respond?

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Blowing In The Wind said... 37Adam is taking care of ALL funeral arrangements for Christina (who was on his team).

Has Kate even acknowledged her death or the mass shootings in Orlando?June 14, 2016 at 1:39 PM fidosmommy said... 38If Kate really is a narcissist, she will never think to respond. This shooting has not involved her. Why would she feel compelled to talk about it? If this shooting, however, had caused splatter on her sports car, she'd have plenty to say. It is futile to assign sympathy or empathy duty to a narcissist. They have to be told they should care.

Sage, I have never heard of them either, but it reminds me of something I meant to say in that post about the Aussie paps. They likely have no idea who Kate is, because every country has their own celebrities. They have their own soap operas, game shows, talk shows, reality TV, sitcoms, etc. Your story above proves it! The Waltons are apparently very well known there (I sent the link to my friend from Scottish friend in Arizona and she immediately responded) and unheard of here. Kate may be well known here but unheard of in other countries, including Australia. Very doubtful she had them on alert after a 12+ hour flight. They most likely used their network to sell pics, just like other industry people use their own networks. Good grief!

Exactly. They can't mention ANYTHING with bringing Kate up. They could literally be on the subject of talking about what they ate for dinner and somebody will bring Kate up into the conversation like she matters lol.

They want the Disneyland story to be true so bad bc they have nothing else Kate related to talk about lol.

Ruh roh. Someone may have misstated what the great local insider said and she is NOT happy about it. PA Dutch Mom takes her responsibility for reporting local gossip very seriously.

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"Even though it was reported by some the locals on here that they haven't seen them together."

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Who reported that? I said that there was no talk about her seriously dating anyone, and didn't specifically mention Vann or anything about not seeing them together. Did any of the other locals say something about it? You said "some of the locals." Plural.

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Kate changed her Twitter profile pic, and Milo hopped right on it. Well, not literally, but she wishes!

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 1h1 hour agoLOL If we want to get you 2do anything...go thru #Mady right? Beautiful YOU in such a quiet /pensive mood! #PhillyBlockParty @Kateplusmy8 /////////////////////////

The way they follow Kate and Milo on twitter I believe it is them that want to 'hop right on it'.

Ding Ding Ding! I think we have a winner for a LSAA (Lack Of Self-Awareness Award).

At a time of great tragedy, they are focused on Kate's twitter wanting to tear her to pieces for either not tweeting or for what she tweets.Again, Jon has not made any statement about the tragedy, but their focus is only on Kate. Why anyone would be awaiting words from either of these two reality tv celebs, I have no idea. However, Jon was the one stating he wanted to run for Congress and was concerned about ISIS.Jon also has pornbots on his twitter TL, but he is excused from judgement.

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Tucker's Mom said... 164

Using this tragedy to pick and poke at someone you don't like is just as reprehensible as any politician using it to garner votes. Enough already. ******* It's impossible to try to reason with someone who has no, or refused to use, critical thinking skills. Whomever this troll is just hates you, us, this blog, and are blinded by it. It's pathetic. June 13, 2016 at 8:34 AM

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TeamBullsh1tville ‏@JohnySteps1337 2m2 minutes ago @MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 Yes Kate,tweet about your profile picture instead of the Orlando shooting,nice 2 see what u care more about. ******* Ha, so true. It's telling that Kate tweets nothing about a national tragedy, then basically says "Hey, look at ME!!!!!! Tell me how pretty I am!!!!". Not to even mention that she's done nothing about the porn bots, which are not just links, but skanky photos of women. June 16, 2016 at 11:46 AM

It went up again. Between 117 and 172 it is 52%. Tutoring that fourth grader came in handy on this boring sick day! I didnt read but a lot are probably telling people to piss off. I don't know the big word for that.

Lynne In RI has left a new comment on the post "Recap: Kate Plus 8 ''Blind Date": Realitytvkids.co...":

Sherry (176): "I agree. There's something seriously wrong with him or her. It's a creeper. I'm not sure exactly what, but something is "off" upstairs. This is one I'd really be concerned about, if I were Kate. Goody, too. Those two are scary. The other sheep seem pretty benign...airheads, yes, but most of them appear to be harmless. Then again, you just never know. Look what happened to Christina."

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I wonder if The Gladys printed out that picture, put on her sharply creased gray slacks and purple sneakers, and headed to her local UPS store to have a poster size made for her to hang above her bed!

She will be drooling over that picture for quite some time.

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I have a feeling you all will be drooling a lot more than Milo ever thought of.

They are jejune, Sage. (That's my new word. It means immature or juvenile. I discovered it be googling "What's a fancy word for "assholes?" There wasn't a good synonym for that, but I thought "jejune" was close enough and quite lovely. I'm sure that Tucker's Mom would approve.)

I ran in Rock-n-Roll half marathon today and this time I kept my eyes peeled. For the record, there are no scooters running willy nilly at these events. I actually thought that when Kate was accused of cheating. I didn't remember seeing any scooters. Today I really paid attention. The only scooters were police officers on choppers and they were transporting event photographers or riding solo. Also, the sag wagon, which transports people who may not finish in time (6 hours for 26.2 miles/4 hours for 13.1 miles) closer to the finish, does not kick in until late in the race. It's not just running people to the finish line throughout the race. I still feel she ran the half one time and the marathon the next time. All that BS about her being ferried by a scooter is ridiculous. A scooter could not even get on the course. Roads are CLOSED. And the race route is crowded. When we did see officers on motorcycles, they'd blip their sirens to let us know. It scares your hell out.

I really despise lying so I thought I'd clear that up. Hope everyone is having a good weekend.

I really wonder if people just crack and scream "shut up, shut up, shut up" at the BL in real life the way I do when I read most of her posts. Gotta love the deep analysis "normal" behavior from a woman who ran a birth fetish site.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 18

I think fundamentally, due to most likely a personality disorder, she doesn't process deep emotional bonds the same way a mentally healthy person does.

I think she does love her children, wants to love her children, and does feel something special for them. But it's not like the "smitten" that people who have normal relationships with their children feel, a word that describes it so well. It is more like how you might love your awesome bike, or your incredible trip to Europe, or the big screen TV you just got. It's love, but it's more superficial, loving a commodity and getting enjoyment out of it and you like being around it a lot. That's not the same as human one-to-one love.

This is why when she gets angry she has been capable of turning on them, whether it's physical or emotion abuse. This is why she is capable of being very selfish about them, uses them, and without remorse makes them pawns in her end game to get and keep fame and fortune. Like someone might kick their bike they love when it gets a flat tire and curse it out. I think for her she loves them on a more superficial level.

I'm actually not sure this is her fault. No matter what the therapy, I'm not sure she can rewire herself to feel what a normal person feels when they love another human being. And actually, I'm sorry she clearly hasn't experienced that.

Who do people ask you about most often?Kate Gosselin. During the heyday of Kate Gosselin, I got very, very, very lucky. That story was a huge deal. [It was the] right place, right time, right instinct, I guess, if I want to give myself any credit. I think she has contended with a level of misogyny that is so under-appreciated. I think feminists should be furious at the way Kate Gosselin’s been treated. She’s a mother of eight — and make no mistake, she’s a single mother of eight.

My position on her, generally, is the minute you have twins and then sextuplets, and marry a man-child who you go through an absolutely hellish divorce from — the minute you’ve walked in all of those pairs of shoes, you can judge her all day, every day. But if that’s not your life, be quiet, because she has been through a hell of a lot.

The bleeps' heads are exploding. How DARE Kate Coyne say something positive about Kate G? How DARE she??? They, of course, know much more about Kate G's life than Kate C does... and what about poor, poor Jon. Tucker's word of the day is "misandry" .

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Over And Out said... 50Kate's new love interest still loves her! He looks like such a happy, happy, joy, joy, person. I don't understand why she ignores him! This may be her once in a lifetime opportunity to find the man of her dreams!

The stupidity burns. Jamezvader, with intimate knowledge of the day-to-day life of Jon, Kate and kids, can't think of anything Jon did to two of their kids.It's laughable and creepy that these people think they know the Gs so well. But, mostly it's creepy.

Never once have I seen Jon's words addressed over at Bl's. Jon said it himself, that his case is not the norm where the judge orders Kate to present the kids.For whatever reason, Jon's lack of visitation is the what the court has ordered. BL completely ignores this and they all relish in calling Kate a parental alienator. Can't have any of that nasty truth around.

This has something to do with Jon's parenting. To be kept away so long, it has to be because he's harmful or he's not cooperating in what is necessary for him to achieve visitation. It would be weird for the court to give the kids complete freedom to choose, especially the younger ones. I guess that is also a possibility, But again, Jon's parenting would still be at the basis of that decision.

They are infuriated that Kate Coyne had kind words for Kate G. As per their norm, they are immediately devaluing Kate Coyne while dredging up their imaginary list of Kate G.'s sins in order to self-comfort themselves that Kate is still evil incarnate.xxxxxxxx

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@FlimsyFlamsy Ah but you see,Kate is NOT a parental alienator according to her fans.It's not her fault that some of the kids don't want to go to Jon's and hate their father for some unknown reason.I can't think of anything that Jon did that would of only scarred Alexis and collin and not anyone else. June 21, 2016 at 12:53 PM

From Jon's instagram: metcon_incHi Jon, I just watched your interview... You stated you hadn't seen your son in over a year... You get to see all the kids but one? Can't the court order Kate to allow you to see all your kids? It saddens me that you only see four at a time. jongosselin1You think that would be the norm, but not in this case!

I'm not sure about this whole court thing and why some of the kids still don't see him but in a recent episode, Kate actually asks who's going to Jon's house that weekend and one of the girls says "the usual". So I do think they have a choice on whether they go or not which is a bit strange I will admit but its whatever I guess.

Has this week's no self-awareness award be handed out yet? I nominate Tucker's Mom (again)! Lecturing about how to appropriately decry misogyny when she thinks the Gosselins are the poster children for child abuse and exploitation. Hey Tuck, cry for children sold into slavery. Cry for children sold into prostitution. Cry for children who are physically abused by their parents. (That's ABUSED, not spanked). You know, things that really make children suffer.

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You want to decry misogyny? Don't do it by telling the world how poor Katie Irene was tweeted bad by meenie weenies!Start with pay inequity and glass ceilings. Look to the Middle East where women are property, can vote and can't drive. Cry for the women sold into slavery. You know, something that really makes women suffer.Feeling sorry for Kate Gosselin is laughable. I

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If Milo and the sheep are so darn stupid that they don't know that this whole thing was done for the camera (because TLC ran out of storylines), then the whole bunch of them is even dumber than I thought. Doofi, every one!

This will be another Deckster and Grow A Boyfriend for Milo. She's not going to let this go for a long, long time. It will be questions upon questions and Kate will get sick and tired of it. Watch Gladys go off into a pouting mode.

Now this is truly no self awareness. Becks and the bleeps go on and on about everything Kate has said and done over and over again....yet, no one dare utter a word about Jon...Becks man child crush. I wonder if Jon doesn't remind her of the boys she used to nanny for and one no longer will have anything to do with her. hmmmm

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It's really pathetic that all these years later Kate's cronies are still going on about the divorce. Move on. Jon has. No one from Jon's side is going on and on about the divorce. Man-child is a childish comment. And you know what Coyne, Kate picked him. If she didn't want a man child she didn't have to spend a decade in a relationship with him. It sounds like your problem is with Kate.

So, Kate Coyne is a cronie fixated on J&K's divorce because she mentioned it in defense of Kate. Lol, that's rich, I doubt a day goes by that the bleeple don't reference the divorce in some way. Becks just makes it up as she goes along. Jon is always crying about his divorce. In January, Jon was on Steve Harvey rewriting history about why he stopped the filming. Going on about Kate or the divorce is the only way he can get the interviews he so desperately craves.

Kate Coyne was asked a question and she answered it. Becks of course has to find a way to defend Jon, but she never does a good job of it, first saying that "man child is a childish comment" and then referring to Jon as a "man child" herself when she says of Kate "If she didn't want a man child she didn't have to spend a decade in a relationship with him." lol You see what YOU did there Becks? And of course in the end the problem is with Kate. Kate Coyne's problem has to be with Kate. Oh Becks. It's you who has the problem with Kate, you poor lost thing.

First response to the Kate Coyne article is SO typical of the the haters' mindset. Never mind that Kate Coyne and Deanna are friends of Kate and the kids and have been with them first hand... The haters always know more. This idiot just proved Coyne's comment to a T!

"Please, there is no comparison between Kate Gosselin and misogyny. Kate Gosselin never took care of the kids by herself and to this day I don't believe she has bonded with them. You want to support an admitted child and animal abuser, that's on you, but don't twist facts. As far as the divorce, Kate wanted that. Jon wanted the kids to have a childhood, not continue to work to support them. Not sure what you consider yourself but you are certainly not a journalist and you've made a lot of people think of People as less than. You most certainly do not fact check, there are legal documents to support many of the beatings those poor babies endured and they will continue to suffer until they can get far away from her."

People change. My god! Maybe she wasn't a dog person before and maybe she is now! I don't like breeding and will always rescue but people can do what they want.

We had dogs growing up and they were not allowed inside. It pains me to think that maybe we forgot to feed them. But later, separately, both my parents became huge dog lovers and actually treated their dogs better than they treated us. I am glad they had that joy. My dad cried like a baby when I told him I would bring PJ and his other dog home after he died. He sobbed. We are all grown and would be ok but he was so worried about his babies. I wonder if they regretted their earlier attitudes about dogs. Even if they did they can't change the past.

But no....if she posts a pic of the dog, the bed is too clean because he is never inside. Or he is obviously uncomfortable around her. This is determined by simple photos. News flash. My dog hates having her picture taken. It is hard to get a shot because she turns away. And her bed is clean too. The horrors!

Someone needs to take a chill pill and a deep breath and a break from analyzing. Good lord!

He is also quoted as saying this "Through this agency, he plans to film and produce a music-related docuseries that will bring him back to TV. “The platform might start off on YouTube, and we’ll see what happens, but I’m sure somebody is going to pick it up as soon as they see my face,” he says."

Jon wants back on TV so bad. LOL He is a man child. Forty years old and he is a DJ at a high school prom. He wants a youtube presence so someone will recognize him and he will be famous. lol lol

In one breath he says he never knows which four kids will come to the gate --which I don't believe, because he seems to have the same four kids each time -- and then he says he doesn't get Collin because he is being home-schooled and doesn't get off the school bus.What a crock. He could not possibly NOT know why he doesn't get Collin. And he can't have it both ways.

So is Collin the ONLY one he hasn't seen in over a year? Cause like Quiltart said, it seems like he only gets the same four kids. What about Alexis and the twins? I think the twins are old enough to make the decision that they possibly just aren't interested in visiting their father but as for Collin it's a bit strange. I think it was mentioned something happened years ago that may have be one of the reasons why he doesn't visit Jon. Just sad.

"It's really pathetic that all these years later Kate's cronies are still going on about the divorce. Move on. Jon has. No one from Jon's side is going on and on about the divorce." ~ The one and only BL.

LMAO, I'll just refer BL to my previous comment. Bl will just skip right over how wrong she was.

OMG, Yahoo only wanted a prom list and Jon latched on and gave a full on interview.

Yes, Jon lies. None of what he said made sense. He says he doesn't pay support because he has shared custody. Yet, his schedule and visitation is nothing like shared physical custody. Since the divorce, Kate has always had primary physical custody and then Jon gave up his 1/2 of legal. He says his hands are tied. What a crock. His hands are tied because whatever is going on is court ordered.

It still sounds like he is seeing the same four the majority of the time. But, I would think the other 3 (not Collin) see him every once in awhile.

I believe every word Deanna tweeted awhile ago. Especially, that it's not a consistent every other weekend.

“If the kids want to come, they come,” he says. “I love them all, but I am going to focus on the ones that want to come. My hands are tied.”

So it's not about who gets off the school bus. If the kids want to come, they come. Jon says many absurd things but to suggest that Collin not getting off the school bus might have anything to do with why he doesn't see Collin is just plain stupid, when he also says the quote above. Jon's hands are tied by his need to only do what's easy. It's easy to be with the kids who want to be with him, trying to pursue the ones who don't want to be with him and resolve whatever issues might be keeping them from visiting him is too much work. That's grown up stuff and beyond Jon's grasp.

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This news about C not seeing his dad confirms to me that TFW hates her ex more than she loves her son. I don't care if the kid refuses to see him (just saying that as a pre-emptive strike against whoever is about to say, "What if he doesn't want to see his father?"). If a child refused to learn, would his mother just let him play video games all day? If he refused to eat meals, would his mother just let him eat candy? It is TFW's RESPONSIBILITY as a mother to foster a good relationship between her son and his father. She doesn't have to like it, but she needs to do it. Unless the boy has suffered physical, emotional or sexual abuse by his father, there is no reason in this world that whatever has gone wrong between them shouldn't be addressed and worked through. She is a horrible, horrible mother.

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I am willing to bet that Jon is the horrible, horrible father.. There is a reason he does not see him and a reason he does not try....Jon is not allowed to see him by a court order.

You really think it's that serious, Sage? I've just thought that since Jon can't make Collin visit and Collin doesn't want to visit, Jon just hasn't bothered trying to straighten things out with his son because that would require more effort than Jon has in him to make.

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@Becca "Maybe Jon lost his cool one day".IF that happened then why didn't Kate(Who tries to paint herself as this mother dedicated to her kids)call the cops and nail Jon? Like admin said,wouldn't Jon have been supervised by someone if he did something unthinkable?

I don't doubt that Jon knows why Collin doesn't want to be around him, and that this situation can only happen because the court is allowing it by giving Collin and all the children the power to decide if they see Jon or not. But to think that the court doesn't allow Jon to see Collin makes it seem like a very serious situation.

I think of Collin as a kid who likes boundaries and structure and schedule and it's just something that Jon can't provide for him, so he doesn't like that environment. I do hope it's nothing more serious than that. If Collin is choosing to stay with Kate that must mean he likes being with Kate...and I would think that it's easier to be with their Mom and the ones who don't go with Jon get more of Kate's attention when there are fewer siblings around.

Why doesn't Becks set her followers straight and explain to them that the only way for Jon to enforce the custody arrangement is to go to court. And that if Jon has truly been in court for 7 years over custody, like he claims in the interview, then Jon has done something to affect the Judge's decision. Why doesn't Becks tell them that even IF Kate were in contempt of a court order, the cops wouldn't take her to jail because Jon called them and told them so. The Judge would have to find her in contempt first, and the only way that would happen is IF Jon moved the court to find her in contempt. Where I live the police rarely ever enforce a visitation schedule. They refer the injured party to take it to the Judge. As an attorney Becks should know this. But instead, she prattles on endlessly about how Jon is the victim and Kate is a parental alienate who lives to make poor little Jon's life miserable.

This is when Jon was with Ellen. Robert Hoffman used to email me under the name of Angela for a number of months. Keep in mind there is something really off about him and you can make what you want out of what he told me.

During the time he was emailing me I was emailing with Steve Neild and turned over all correspondence to him.

That's crazy. But wasn't Jon with Ellen back in 2010? im pretty sure Collin has visit him post 2010 though. Until 2014 I'm assuming. So something must have happened around that time where Collin wanted to stop visiting Jon.

They swear Kate is alienating Collin from Jon but Collin is 12 and can a decision for himself about whether or not he wants to visit him.

How you can call a child stupid, let alone your own, is beyond me. I hope Collin is okay.

Jon received 19 comments on his pity party story on Daily Mail. Guess this should prove to him you don't give up your rights so you don't have to pay cs. Amazes me that he thought the kids would fall over him, when he doesn't contribute to their expenses.

He must be living with a deadbeat women, she can't care about the kids if she allows Jon to do what he does. She's 7 years older than Jon, she should be ashamed that Jon runs to the press for his whine party.

"Jon Gosselin is no longer afraid to speak his mind", they could not shut him up. So Jon has a need for security according to the interview but Kate does not need it especially when she has the children? I also noted when speaking of the relationship with current girlfriend, it was written they had their troubles. Humm!

I see BL just ignored how wrong she was that no one in Jon's camp is still going on about the divorce. You are so right Sage, Jon will still be giving this same interview 20yrs from now.

I did get a big chuckle out of Jon's statement that his youtube show is going to be picked up when "they" see his face. That's hilarious. If someone wanted Jon for a show, they would be calling. It reeks of desperation for fame, which is fine ... except he's supposed to be such a private guy (eye roll).

Meanwhile, Bl just can't tell the difference between opinion and fact. She has superb blinders on when it comes it Jon, complete denial. He has enjoyed slamming Kate since they split. One of the first things he did was say he despised her and loved Hailey more than he ever loved Kate. Bl ignores how Jon sold those awful "house of horrors" stories, how he bashed Kate and was disgusting on CT. He even gave that interview slamming Kate because she wouldn't appear on CT with him. Quilt, you nailed it. Jon never gives an interview without bashing Kate.

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$$$$$$$ I don't know why it is so hard to accept that your opinion and "truth" are not synonymous. Your perception based on not knowing these people is your perception. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Okay. You can watch her on TV in the episodes and in interviews make parental alienating statements too numerous to count. It's not speculation, it's right there in black and white.

Saying it's an "opinion" she is parental alienator is kind of like saying man has walked on the moon is an "opinion." Parental alienation deniers do the victim children no good. June 23, 2016 at 4:17 PM

Merry, The shows she bases her "facts" on are almost 10 YEARS OLD! There have been very few shows in the last couple of years. They have no source whatsoever about what the G's life is like NOW. They have absolutely no proof that Kate is a "parental alienator" anymore than Jon is. (In fact, he is more of an alienator, because hever never stops bashing Kate.) The bleeps base everything on the past, when the kids were little, and Kate was super-stressed. It's laughable how they say to go back and watch the show. They have watched these shows so many times, despite saying they NEVER watch, that they have memorized every single frame. Sick. Just sick.

Jon left his children during and after the divorce. Utah, New York, traveled overseas, etc.

Jon, quit blaming Kate and your kids on how they feel about you. At this point in your life, you should be thankful that you have a small job and can take care of yourself. Jon should be jumping for joy that Kate was their for their children and provides a home for them now. If you see 4 of your children, enjoy your time, quit putting your other kids life out to the paps for money, they will only resent you more.

OMG, Kate never badmouthed Jon. Talk about revising history. Every frigging opportunity she had, and she had plenty, she bashed him continuously. Sure Jon bashed her as well. But no one could keep up with Kate.

Yeppers Quilt, they know those shows backwards and forwards, better than any fan.

The only time I recall Kate bashing Jon was years ago on Regis and Kathy Lee. Anderson Cooper was filling for Regis. She said she waited by the phone when the kids were with Jon because they preferred being in there own home. I didn't agree with it. Jon had just done something nasty and mean and it seemed like Kate was retaliating. That is pretty mild compared to all of what Jon has said and done. The bleeps take Kate's innocent remarks and twist them into what they want. They put on those superb blinders on when it comes to Jon.

I would really like two explanations from the bleeps.If Jon wanted off the show for privacy and stopped filming because he didn't want his kids filmed during the divorce, why did he go after his own show and why did he sell the twins' birthday out to ET? Why did he have RH filming the kids during the departure of the dogs? (ntm all of the interviews he gave to paps).

More recently, I sure would like one of them to explain Jon giving up legal custody when Kate is supposed to be such an abusive mom. They are howling about Collin being homeschooled saying something must be done about the poor little prisoner. But, Jon has absolutely no power over those decisions. He handed that power over to Kate.

It's really Quilt that you can always count on to become so angry and defensive. Every single time.

There is nothing about the situation with Kate and Jon that causes anger for me. They just are who they are and both of them are at the end of being able to milk the system. It's just sorta fun to watch and listen to the sheep defend Kate no matter what. I don't support Jon across the board. But he is not the devil incarnate.

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OMG, Kate never badmouthed Jon. Talk about revising history. Every frigging opportunity she had, and she had plenty, she bashed him continuously. Sure Jon bashed her as well. But no one could keep up with Kate

Kate's living her life, she has a couple of new additions (puppies) TLC revisits her family every so often (as most people knew they would) and things seem to be going well for her as she raises her kids.

Jon has the opportunity to live like a teenager, no real responsibility, always on the cusp of doing something regarding his kids as soon as he gets the money - but he never quite does. He seems to think his face is going to sell something - according to the latest interview he did - but people have known about his face for many years and I haven't seen him selling anything lately. He seems equal parts resentful and delusional.

I have no anger about Jon, but the true facts seem to get in the way of Becs living in reality. Maybe her few posters have the same situations with ex's, but take their hate out on everyone else. Who knows or cares. Kate continues on with life, and Becs still talks about Kate, Jon, and the kids from 10 years ago. Who's the angry one?

If Jon wants a true relationship with his children, man up, pay cs and part of all expenses of the children or sit done and shut up. His lame story again and again is boring and only makes himself look bad.

I find the lawyer who owns a fetish birth site scary, and her supporters can never call her out on it or they are banned. LOL. I guess the delusion runs deep there.

Good morning SagersI was wondering about something. When Jon was on SH in January (filmed in Dec), he said he hadn't seen one of his sons in 1 1/2 yrs. Then, he gave an extra interview to ROL naming the children who visit/don't visit. Now, it's 6 months later and Jon is still saying he hasn't seen Collin in a 1 1/2 yrs. Did time stand still for Jon Gosselin? Does he not know how long it has been? Is he going to give another interview in 6 months, saying he hasn't seen Collin in 1 1/2 yrs?

I think it's been a solid two years now that he hasn't seen Collin. They're still using "a year and a half" in the article because Jon finally revealed which son he hasn't seen as opposed to the January interview with Steve Harvey where he just said "my son".

So, for two years Jon has left poor little prisoner Collin alone with the abusive evil Kate, the woman for which he was supposedly going to demand a psych exam because her home was a house of horrors.Yeesh, even RH wrote a book trying to save "abused" Collin (though it took him three years and then two more while he revised).

In a February ROL, Jon named the kids who didn't see him and said he didn't even know what they looked like. But still said he was going to file for joint custody once he gathered the funds. Now he's saying “I can’t do anything, and ” “If the kids want to come, they come. I love them all, but I am going to focus on the ones that want to come. My hands are tied.”Get it Bleeps? Jon has never filed for custody... those previous interviews were all lies. The court does not let you file for custody over and over. It was finalized way back in April 2012 when Jon was relieved of child support and gave up legal custody. Yet, the bleeps believe he's gone to court time and again fighting for custody.I can't imagine what it did to the kids when their dad sold stories about going for custody when it was already decided. Ntm, the nasty things he said about their mom.

I don't think Colin is a burden to anyone, he seems very close to Kate and his brothers. I wonder if Jon and that ditch digger did something to a innocent child. Seems RH had a special interest in Colin, which to me was a red flag. Very unhealthy imo. Of course the fantasy lawyer would want everyone to know that these to deadbeats were always in court for the kids. Not!

That's just a nasty thing to say on so many levels. How did this bleeple determine that Collin will never be able to live independently based on knowing that he has some developmental/behavioral issue about which the public knows absolutely nothing? It's just a ridiculous comment, but par for the course over there.

Jon says it costs à lot to go to court and I agree but durung the time he was not working, is there not free legal aid in the United States that he could have had? In Canada, you can have free legal aid even if you are working as long as you don't make over X amount of money per year. I'm sure that if he wanted to have answers there was surely à way to get them.

I do think Jon could get a free lawyer, but for what? The court has seen him many times before and nothing has changed. No cs, back taxes, spending foolish money on women and booze, maybe some other issues? he is not a stable parent in todays court system. The kids need a stable home, education, medical care, insurance, roof over their head, food on the table.

Jon pee's on driveways, stays out all night, lives with a gf (not married) and has no means to support hardly a weekend visit. Jon should be rich for every time he said victim, he's not a victim, he's what he always wanted to be. No responsibilities, no worries about what it takes to raise kids, etc. When he needs a few bucks, he sells a story, nothing new, just how mean Kate is. The public doesn't care what Jon is doing, only in Jon's little mind is he a Father.

"She has put the children in a terrible position where because she has taken an anti-Jon position, they are caught between pleasing her, and seeing their father they love and who has been nothing but a good father to them.

She and her cronies can deny it all they want, but the animosity she feels toward Jon is tangible, and children are not stupid and pick up on that. It's actually pretty lucky only one kid has been fully alienated despite all of Kate's efforts, which says a lot about Jon. Colin, due to his special needs, may be especially susceptible to parental alienation."

What in the hell is that supposed to mean? I hope they aren't trying to say because of Collin's disabilities that he's more likely to be influenced by Kate's "parental alienation" or whatever the hell.

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Becca, I agree with you. I think Jon should do a lot more to help Collin get what he needs, as well as for his legal custody visits. The poor kid looked so alone in those school prep episodes and the other tups did not seem to be concerned with him at all.

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I don't think we really know what Jon is doing to help him, or what route he's taken on this because it's such a private matter and Jon certainly isn't going to put that information out on the internet. It's very easy to say that he should be doing more, why doesn't he do this or that, but the fact is that we don't know what he's doing or to what extent he is trying to resolve whatever conflict there is. That's the way that it should be. ///////////////////////////////////////////////

It seems that every interview Jon does all he talks about is not seeing the kids and when he gets money he will go back to court. He has been saying that for years...when he gets money.

Why can't these people take their blinders off and see Jon for what he really is? He is the parental alinater. He has shown that over and over.

Nope, Beckspert, the parental alienator claim is still an opinion. Your pronouncing it "fact" does not make it so.

Maybe their "blog historian" can do a side-by-side comparison of all the public comments made by both Jon and Kate about the other. I'm pretty sure Saint Jon wouldn't come out smelling like a rose.

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The scary thing about this is that Kate is a parental alienator. She has made it very clear to the children she resents Jon. Fact, not opinion. Therefore a child who "doesn't want to see Jon" may only be doing so to please Kate. Not because they can independently identify any problem with him.

Nameless, that is a great idea! I'm sure, since they have memorized every frame and every post, it would be easy for them to do a side-by-side comparison. Memorized frames from their imaginations do not count.

Blech, I wondered how long before someone trotted out the "we don't know what Jon has done/is doing" excuse. Jon made it very clear that he was going to concentrate on the kids that choose to visit.

Bl is demanding they rally to her fact that Kate is a parental alienator. In spite of the G kids having two parents, one who BL's group considers a sainted dad, they go on and on about caring and something needing to be done about the poor G kids. They ignore that Jon gave up legal custody and all the nasty things he has done. It's all about twisting things to protect poor victim Jon and hating on Kate. They can't believe it's Jon's fault that some of the kids don't see him. The truth takes away all their fun of trying to bring down Kate. Can't have the welfare of the kids getting in the way of that.

They ragged on Kate anytime she seen going to the store without the kids. Jon hasn't been seeing the twins and four of the tups for a long long time.

Deanna said there were therapists involved. She also said that a parent couldn't prevent visitation no matter what lies were told in an interview. In so many words, she was saying this was all okay with the court. The bleeps won't accept that and keep on reaching for excuses so Jon's halo doesn't fall off.

Exactly. Like they still believe these kids are 5 and that people have to make simple decisions for them. They are 12 and 15. They are completely capable of making decisions for themselves, including whether or not they want to go to see their dad. They have to make it seem like it's all Kate's fault and it's not true.

If Kate had been keeping Collin or any of the other kids from Jon for two years against their custody agreement, you better believe Jon would have hauled her into court a LONG time ago. The visitation is what it is, and it's not because Kate is keeping the kids from Jon.

Oh, honey, take the blinders off. Jon is not dramatic? The man who said, on national television, that his ex-wife could "go and f*cking die" is not dramatic? The man who runs to the tabloids screaming about how his ex-wife needs a psych. evaluation is not dramatic? The man who fired warning shots at a paparazzi is not dramatic?

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fidosmommy said... 155Jon is not a dramatic person, therefore will not be sharing his feelings or recounting his activities in a dramatic fashion. There are those who seem to think he should be flapping his hands, screaming into the phone and parking himself on the judge's doorstep until he gets his way. Kate would do that, and we would call her a lunatic who is more interested in the dramatics than in the real issue. Jon is simply not going to add circus show to the list of things his children have to endure. He hasn't, to my knowledge, done a thing to make life harder for his children, but is actually acknowledging their individual feelings.That is something Kate is not known for.

This post encapsulates so much of what is seriously wrong with the BL. These are his CHILDREN. You don't "move on" when your children are involved. It's not just another battle you lost. I don't for one second believe that Jon has fought hard to see his children and is constantly in court, but if that were the case, you don't just go, "bummer, I tried."

***********************************Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 149I think Jon has drawn a line in the sand that he won't subject his children to having to go to him via the police. I get it. The idea of it upsets people. If people really understood how such exchanges usually go, they wouldn't be so afraid to call. The police in such scenarios are generally calm, gentle, good with children, and most have done custody exchanges hundreds of times. It's not a raid, there's no guns involved, no breaking down your door. But if he isn't willing to involve law enforcement and doesn't have enough money to keep going to court, he's stuck and might as well move on.

Nameless, you are so right. When it comes to your children, "moving on" is not an option. As if Jon is afraid of a scene, Jon loves scenes. He loved turning his leaving TLC, his relationship with Hailey, and the twins birthday, into a circus. There's nothing he loves better than running to the media with something that is going to bring the attention. He was out of control on CT.

Someone is saying that Collin doesn't need pity because he is being homeschooled. That can't stand with Becks.Becks is a lawyer and this is her reasoning.Btw, Collin loved loved working on the picnic table. It was a sweet moment between Collin and Kate. That irritates the heck out of BL. She couldn't bring herself to mention it her lengthy recap of the show.

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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 153

Oh, and if Colin likes "working with his hands" so much, why didn't he jump in and help Mady with her antique project, sanding and painting? Aaden was the only child who wanted to work on that. You would think if Colin really was so into hands-on work, he'd be first in line with a cool project like that. Not buying that one. June 27, 2016 at 9:14 AM

Yeah I noticed that comment. Maybe Collin didn't wanna help Mady or maybe Mady already asked Aaden and he said he'd do it.

I adored the moment between Collin and Kate when they were fixing the picnic table. It was adorable. Kate mentioned Collin likes tools and fixing things and that was a perfect time for them to bond. So cute.

So according to BL the line Jon has drawn is that he won't force the kids to see him if they don't want to. Gee, that's so noble to not make any kid who don't want to see you come and see you anyway. He won't have the police gently bring them over to a place they don't want to be? Awww...father of the year. Never mind the reason why Collin doesn't want to see Jon must have something to do with Jon's behavior towards Collin - apparently that's not relevant. All that's important is that Jon has allegedly given up and moved on. That's what you do when your 12 year old doesn't want to see you, right? You don't try to work things out with him, you move on.

I would definitely argue that Jon has been a good father the entire time. In fact there were a couple of years when I think most of us might say he was an absent father who made very poor choices that put him in the place he is now.

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Apparently you weren't here all those years when it was JON who supported his kids in everything they did at school. Jon, not Kate. Jon.

Jon moved to New York and moved in with Haley right away. When his kids needed him around the most he was in France getting high and trying to work a deal for the kids to model those ugly Ed Hardy clothes. Then when he was evicted from his apartment and Haley he headed west for about 2 months with a different girlfriend. He didn't care about his kids only jumping from bed to bed.

Becs needs to realize that Jon moved on long ago. Utah, New York, Paris, several women, expensive car, nightlife, etc. You don't sell a story to a rag saying you are concerned for your children and do nothing about it. I wish Jon would for once tell what the court said to HIM, he seems to duck and weasel around that all the time. He needs to tell why he doesn't pay cs, not a made up story. He won't discuss his kids on twitter, but he will SELL a story about them. What a great guy he is.:(

Why is the blog so concerned about Collin? He's not the only one who does not see Jon. There is a serious issue why some of the kids don't see Jon. He needs to be honest with himself first. You can bet if visitation was court ordered, he would be flaming his arms at the gate with paperwork.

Farkle, I think it's only in the imagination of those who consider themselves experts by zipcode.

When Kate's good friends, Deanna and Kate Coyne, spoke about the REALITY of Kate's life and when Deanna spoke about the kids, who she personally known, they didn't count, but Jon's imaginary friends count. These people are out of their minds.

Lol, They haven't learned a thing since Possum/PennMommy. They just love to believe anyone who tells them what they want to hear. She's their little security blanket.

Here's comment from PA Dutch Mom going on about how wonderful Jon is with the kids. Unfortunately for her story, just 4 days later, Jon appeared on SH revealing that he doesn't see all of his kids and then a week later Jon gave the interview to ROL saying he doesn't even know what his kids look like.

Feb 6 ROL

Kate’s ex has admitted that four of his eight children don’t spend any time with him at all, and he blames their reality TV mom for their estrangement.

“I’m upset. I’m hurting,”

According to Jon, twins Cara and Maddie, 15, and two of his 11-year-old sextuplets, Collin and Alexis, have dug in their heels and will not go stay with their dad in his rural Pennsylvania home.

As Radar exclusively reported, Jon agreed to allow the kids on TV in order to avoid paying Kate any child support, although he insists he plans to seek joint custody when he can “gather the funds.”

The former reality show star now watches TLC clips of Kate Plus 8 in order to see his four children. “I don’t know what they look like,” he told the magazine.xxxxxxxxxxxxx

PA Dutch Mom said... 17

... I really wish that Milo would be able to spend a day here observing Jon with the kids, the hugs, his love for them, his warmness, nurturing, emotional support, caring and just being a dad. Jon actually has fun with his kids. Kate sees them as a commodity. I think maybe she might have her eyes open to a few things. Then again, Jon is the villain, the ex-from-hell who made life miserable for her beloved Kate, and nothing would ever change that opinion. Her mind is made up, and her eyes closed to anything that would even suggest that Jon isn't the evil enemy who made life hell for Kate and the kids... January 21, 2016 at 10:00 AM

Lol, PA Dutchmom sure wants the bleeps to think she knows what is going on. I believe it's like Quilt said, an imaginary friend and these people are out of their minds.

I do remember in one of Jon's interview that he said he drops the kids off at 7 to Kate's when he has a gig. It was quite awhile ago though. It's probably not consistent, depending on everyone's schedules.

I doubt his lack of visitation has much to do with him being a dj. Jon started Djing around January 2015. It was January 2014 when Jon did one of his "I'm filing for custody" bits. Heller told E that Jon hadn't hadn't seen the twins much for the previous year (it came out on ROL they hadn't seen him in 9 mos) and Jon hadn't seen Collin since August 2013.

I wish they would keep their damn mouths shut. These people were just complaining that if Kate wants to "stay relevant" or "up her celeb status" then she should make an IG or get more social media. I don't remember who said it but I saw it on there. Now that Kate makes an IG, shes so pressed to stay relevant "she's willing to give up the kids' privacy". Will they ever make up their damn minds?

Math Girl said... 6Molly12 said... 191I wonder if she'll buy Instagram followers to make it seem like she's still relevant*********************************When she announced her new Instagram account, she already had just over 1200 followers which leads me to believe she probably bought most of those. Let's see if her numbers jump in increments of 1000.-------------------------She's currently at 2639 followers (just went up by 4). Still no posts.

Milo had to take Miloandjack1 because there's already a miloandjack on instragram. It appears to belong to two cats.June 28, 2016 at 11:30 AM///////////////////

Wow for people who seemingly "dislike" Kate they sure are keeping tabs on her IG follower count like FANS ��.

Of course she already has followers, because, despite what they think, she has a lot of fans. All Kate has to do is post she has an IG account and her followers on FB will follow her on IG. There is no way Kate is paying for followers. She doesn't have to.

Blah blah, another example of how Bl will go around world rather than admit she could be wrong. She drops all pretense of of logic.What's weird is how they put up with her BS. Anytime they might dare to disagree with their beloved Admin, they risk the humiliation of one her cut and paste replies or their comment not getting through that at all.They turn a blind eye when BL targets a fellow commenter. Just a like good little follower ought to do.xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 9 Not buying this reason either. It is a scripted reality show. Aaden was chosen. You know that was all set up. And frankly it was probably Mady who chose who got to work with her. If she doesn't want it, it's not happening.

**** That's quite a stretch. Wouldn't production want as many kids to participate as possible to participate in the project to increase the chances of drama and good footage? It's not to their advantage only a few kids are willing to do something.

Oh, and you can't make an 11 year old do something he doesn't want to. Aaden clearly wanted to be part of this project and enjoyed himself. No one else was interested. June 28, 2016 at 1:14 PM

"Oh, and you can't make an 11 year old do something he doesn't want to." ~BL

I keep waiting for the obvious to pop into Bl's head. If you can't force an 11yo to do something he doesn't want, Bl and her little group can stop worrying about Kate forcing the kids to film. Right? Even Jon says he just laughs about it. Jon's laughing about it, but the bleeps are still wailing.

“I had this conversation before and even though I didn’t sign for them to go back on television, and they didn’t even ask, which is totally illegal. Now I just laugh about it because I have five girls that are just super independent. If they don’t want to film, I think they make it known.” ~Jon

There are no words...--------------RoxyHelen said... 39What I would like most is for a judge-not me- to find how how Collin ended up this way. Because Collin wasn't always a special needs chil. He started out as a healthy, lively boy. I want a judge to find out everything that has happened to Collin, that made him reach the point of special needs. Then, I want whoever is responsible to be punished to the full extent of the law.I am honestly so hearbroken for this poor child, I can't even find words to express how sad it makes me.June 28, 2016 at 11:39 PM

I saw that comment and my eyes rolled so far into the back of my mad. That person clearly didn't consider the fact that Collin's issues might be heredity and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Him having a disability is no one's fault. He's a bright and intelligent child as Kate has often stated.

I feel very sorry for young Collin. Nobody should even know about any issues he may have, except his family/school/doctor, nor should they be analyzed, speculated about, have blame assigned, or discussed at all. Poor kid.

Can we all say NO SELF AWARENESS? What does Ms. Tucker and her bleeple friends think they are doing 24/7 but bashing Kate? Has Jon asked THEM to stop? I don't think so. ------Tucker's Mom said... 102FlimsyFlamsy said... 99TLC stinks (#98), was Goody the one who wanted Jon to be in a coma for 6 months? Now there's someone your teenage daughters will want to take a selfie with.******Yes, and I hold Kate as accountable for allowing the Jon-hatred to go unchecked.Kate will admonish her fans for foul language on her Twitter, but not for saying unspeakable things about the father of her kids.July 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM

So I guess Jon's accountable for the Kate hatred and he should be chastising people like Flimsy and Tucker's mom and all those others for what they say about Kate. He should be on that BL blog telling them all to stop it, right? Do any of these people actually think before they comment? Yeah, they THINK anybody who bashes Kate has every right to, and Jon should just bash her too. These people are so sick.

FlimsyFlamsy has left a new comment on the post "Recap: Kate Plus 8 ''Blind Date": Realitytvkids.co...":

GollyGee (#112), yes, TFW most certainly hates Jon that much. You know the old saying, the enemy of my enemy is my friend? That's how the handful of nasty posters have wormed their way into TFW's heart: by maligning the father of her 8 children. And by saying those things in a public forum which can spread the word, but leave her hands clean.

I'm curious how soon TFW will be leaving for Chicago, and who will be taking care of her new family members while she's away. She may go there by herself (read: with Steve) for some R&R first, and then have the twins fly there later with a nanny///////////////////////////////

You all need to sit back and read what you write about Kate. Like someone said here....I have never seen Jon tell you to shut up about the mother of his kids. Becks is a public blog and some of you are also on twitter which the most hateful vile comments have been made about Kate.

So RoxyHelen is a doctor now? Who says Collin has a disability? The blogging lawyer? Jon talking about his own son shows just what a lousy Father he is. Does he talk about the twins grades or what the other kids are doing in school?

Collin is very bright, he may just learn different than the other kids. No two kids are alike.

As for bashing Jon, his twitter friends put his crap out there, yet he has never answered them. LOL. Sounds like they finally have realized Jon is a deadbeat. He will never go to court, he will never pay cs, and he will never step up to the plate and be responsible.

Blowing In The Wind has left a new comment on the post "Recap: Kate Plus 8 ''Blind Date": Realitytvkids.co...":

Kate already has some fans asking why she has yet to make a single post on her IG.'Oh, Kate, please don't take offense but why haven't you posted on IG?"It's like they're so afraid to offend their Queen that they have to be obsequious.

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Obviously they haven't checked her "coming soon" pre-order website and don't know that she's a tad bit slow on those things. //////////////////////////////////////////////

People with lives are busy and do not check Kate's various social media every half hour every day like you do.

Poor Flimsy's critical thinking skills are --alas--poorly lacking. If she doesn't see Kate tweet it it didn't happen...Geeze. Kate has other ways of communicating and it's none of the bleeps business anyhow! Sorry,Flimsy,you don't know whether Kate answered Nicole or not!=====

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BLEEPLEPeople who follow the BL because they are followers. They have no cognitive abilities of their own.An individual who accepts the BL's opinions as fact without examination. Even though they know what she says is complete made-up bullshit, they buy it hook, line, and sinker so they can continue in her good graces and have a place to post their obsessions and hate for Kate Gosselin with glee.