Chuckle! I dare because I am an old guy and don't care what anyone thinks of me. I am retired and past caring about my rep as it won't affect my income or my ability to enjoy my life on the downhill slope.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:I never used #!, I went straight to Arch 'cos Waldorf's crusty old kernel didn't support my hardware

I'm sorry for offending you. That explains why I don't remember you from #! forums, I had an install for a while but I always liked real Debian better. It was nice that the developer actually responded to posts sometimes and that is also one of the strengths of MX, developers take part and that may even be one of the reasons that it is so polished.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Anyway, what sort of ****ing idiot would sit there typing out

Well, I can't speak for all the ****ing idiots out here but I probably do it from habit, when I find something that works I tend to keep using it. The older I get the more I dislike change.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:(Please don't find this disrespectful, I don't mean it to be.)

I don't at all, I like for people to speak(write) their minds plainly. One of the good things about DUF is that the Moderation is not heavy handed. In my opinion, it is much more like the real world than the forums for that OS that should not be named. BTW, I truly meant that comment.

what I get is a beautiful antiXlive USB with antiX, boot and EFI directories plus cdrom.ico and version. It looks great! tUnfortunately it is not recognized by either of my computers and won't boot.

After I shot my mouth off yesterday, I decided I'd better check to make sure. So I dd'd the ISO I had to a 2G stick and when finished I took it to my netbook and booted it up to that stunning MX desktop.

I used MX-17_January_x64.iso, is that the same version you used?

Bulkley wrote:Edit: I changed the laptop BIOS from UEFI to Legacy and it booted the MX live USB. Why does that help?

Maybe stevo can answer that, if he choses to, I am not familiar with UEFI although I've seen quite a few posts about early UEFI on older machines that are not standards compliant.

No, please, no offence was taken at all and I do hope my rather colourful reply did not ruffle your feathers too much — I was trying to have a little bit of banter but my social skills are somewhat lacking so that is always a risky move.

EDIT: to stay on topic: the MX-17 ISO image does appear to support UEFI booting:

It's a cross-platfrom application.I've known that liveusb install before unetbootin since on windows before came here.How could many linux ppl forget about it?Debian was lack unetbootin from jessie, stretch long ago download liveusb install .deb file & install would be piece of cake on debian jessie, stretch.

No, please, no offence was taken at all and I do hope my rather colourful reply did not ruffle your feathers too much — I was trying to have a little bit of banter but my social skills are somewhat lacking so that is always a risky move.

No problem. I am Aspie. However I have lived long enough and had enough painful experience to learn some ways to exist along with the normals. Banter is fine and yours is generally intelligent and that is appreciated. Sometimes I chuckle at what you write to others. I have a lot of respect for your technical skill, I don't know even half of what you know about video cards. Thumbs up.

[quote="Thorny"]. . . I've seen quite a few posts about early UEFI on older machines that are not standards compliant./quote]

That explains a lot. Thanks. I suspect that much has changed since the first time I made a live-CD. For one thing, distros have become bloated and won't fit on a CD, thus the USB. To put this in perspective, my first Linux (Caldera) came on a single 3 1/2" floppy disk that I found in the back of a magazine.

Bulkley wrote:As Innovate noted, Liveusb install is a Windows application that has been Linuxized.

I should thank you for you to confirm review how far better it is. Now I'm confident with this tool.In fact, I was doubt how far it's good/bad from unetbootin it's been underrated so long no review until finally today.I was planned to choose pre-install between unetbootin vs liveusb install on my custom build debian but hesitate until now.

There're many rare gems of these apps floating every where on internet & github.