I actually have in a box somewhere a Sota Silver Pulser zapper thingie. I have not done any electric/zapping stuff for two main reasons because of the lyme:

1. The lyme pathogen is pleomorphic and exists not only in the blood, but burrows into the tissues. It has three seperate forms. I am not entirely convinced that electrification will eradicate it because of this.

2. Also, zapping has to be done VERY carefully. If you don't zap for long enough, you only end up killing the *weakest* forms of the pathogens, thereby giving the stronger versions more freedom to thrive. this can be very dangerous.

As a side note to that, even if I did do this, I would want to wait until I had been tested for all possible co-infections. So far I am negative for babesia and erlichia, but still need to be tested for bartonella and mycoplasma.

I'd like to get a better idea of what I'm infected *with* before I begin any regimen like that. When you have multiple infections, upsetting the balance of all of them can have all sorts of effects, not all of them pleasant.

That said, I have had some interesting results with the Sota in the past and I have not ruled it out for treatment. But like I said in another post, it is simply not enough and I think ill advised on my part to do major pathogen killing before I can strengthen my body enough to be able to handle what will be a tremendous die-off (Herxeimer reaction).

So first I am building, and that in and of itself is managing to kill the little buggers, as I am herxing quite strongly after only a few weeks.

Thank you again for that information though. I will definitely keep it in mind and I think Hulda Clark is an amazing woman.

> 1. The lyme pathogen is pleomorphic and exists not only in the blood, but burrows into the tissues. It has three seperate forms. I am not entirely convinced that electrification will eradicate it because of this.

Most pathogens seem to have this ability to hide in various spots. The zapper by itself only offers temporary relief. It is the immune system itself that does the actual curing.

> 2. Also, zapping has to be done VERY carefully. If you don't zap for long enough, you only end up killing the *weakest* forms of the pathogens, thereby giving the stronger versions more freedom to thrive. this can be very dangerous.

The length of time for getting all kinds of pathogens with a Hulda Clark zapper is 7 minutes, but it must be repeated 3 times (with a 20 minute break between each time) because the larger parasites contain bacteria, and the bacteria contain viruses. After this 3-step process, all non-shielded pathogens will be converted to so many dead corpses. Reinfection can happen if your immune system is weak, but it takes a few hours. This is why eliminating pollutants and toxins is so important.

The shielded parasites are not necessarily stronger, they are simply hidden. For example, in the large intestines or inside gallstones. The colon also protects beneficial bacteria, so by zapping the pathogens that are burrowing into intestinal walls, you actually benefit the benign ones at the center.

Be sure your zapper is a low-current unit that uses Hulda Clark 's positive offset. It doesn't matter much what frequency, but it must be positive-offset. I prefer the zapperplans.com $10 unit as it is simple (23 kHz positive offset square wave at low current) so there's less chance of something going wrong. Also I recommend kombucha tea which tastes great and helps detoxify the system.

it was indeed a daunting process, took forever! but i'm not complaining (now that its over :-)

i'd never heard of mycoplasma before your posting down below, i didn't know it was a co-infection with lyme. the homeopath that i was talking about also had given me a homeopathic remedy for that, but i'd never started taking it. i guess i should! thanks for the info.

Hi Alison,
Congratulations - you must feel so relieved. And vindicated. It's awful how cruelly the sick are treated isn't it? Check out Lyme Strategies on Yahoo Groups. There's a bunch of folks over there following the Vit C/Salt therapy and having great results. It is 100% natural and very inexpensive. Also doesn't require a physician.
God bless,
Seashell

Well now ya know. I think that almost everyone walking around North America has it in one form or another (bio engineered) and it lies dormant until the body is stressed to the point that it can take hold.

There has been mention of using a zapper for this condition. A zapper won't touch it. Its good for some things but not lyme.

There are a few good protocols. The salt protocol is effective but my research shows that along with this, or on its own, a combination of olive leaf extract by East Park Research and Samento extract by Nutramedix are the main players in getting this thing licked.

I would also look into a device called the "Vibe Machine" which raises the frequency of all your cells in your body beyond that of a dis ease state. It braodcasts the higher frequency like a classic Rife machine and creates an entrainment frequency for the cells to resonate with.

As well I would back this up with The Beck protocol (but go slow) and hone in on a diet that is teaming with life force energy especially mineral rich wheatgrass (RAW which alkalinizes effectively).

I have started to use Olive Leaf Extract a couple of month ago and have seen great results. My symptoms are almost gone, but only almost. I use the 18% Oleuropein Glycerite from NOW. I take 300 mg up to 4 times a day. I have the Samento from Nutramedix on order and should get on Wednesday. I am real anxious to start it.

Is there a certain dosage combination I should follow?

I also used to take Grapefruit Seed Extract, but switched to Olive Leaf Extract. I might add it agin, though.

What some people do is use gse on and off to confuse the lyme. Remember it changes and tends to go into hiding, so altering your treatments can suprise it. I would keep the olive leaf extract cosntant though. The samento is started at a low dose of 2 drops 3 times per day and titrated up slowly over time to 15 drops 3 times a day and in some cases even more.

I prefer the East Park Research because of its unique processing. Much of the favorable studies have been based on this particular product.

The Patented Difference: All Olive Leaf Extracts Are NOT The SAME

East Park Research, Inc. has developed a way to potentiate the concentration of the effective form of elenolates and other components which are virtually destroyed by conventional extraction processes.

• The standard process usually takes from 1 to 3 hours and uses high levels of heat and toxic solvents made from a petroleum base.
• Elenolate precursors are highly sensitive to heat.
• East Park Research, Inc. spent years developing an effective extraction process that limits the amount of heat applied to the leaves which dry without excipients.

The East Park Research, Inc. extraction process is so unique it has been awarded patent protection by the U.S. Government.

Remember that all these herbs are just an aid and the real healing...the lasting healing will come from proper diet and lifestyle. Alkalinizing on high life force foods is key. Keeping ones thoughts coherent (belief systems etc is even more powerful).

I believe I may have Lyme disease although I've only had a saliva test that came back negative. I tried Samento twice and had horrible reactions after taking just 1 drop the first time and then a few months later 1 drop a day for 3 days. I wished I was dead.

So...I've been told 2 things.
1. That's confirmation I have lyme
2. I could just be reacting negatively to Samento (the quinoles or
in it). ???

Also, almost 3 years ago I had a ton of metal/mercury removed from my body thinking that was causing my problems. I had surgery to remove a large spinal implant and then 3 months later I had a mouthful of mercury/root canals, cavitations done at a Huggins clinic. Now I'm worse than ever!!! Although the salt/C regimen has seemed to help a bit since I started a week ago.

Yeah, I've made changes in my diet but it could still use improvement. Life stresses have been horrible. Long story but I have been unable to maintain steady employment due to layoffs,mismanagement, etc etc. I began to pursue a life dream of teaching and now having problems there too! Due to skyrocketing housing prices in the area, enrollment in school is way down and we're overstaffed - I was last hired..!

My decision to have all mercury/metal removed from my body resulted in attacks from powerful male figures in family (very conservative traditional type - "don't tell the doctor what to do!") I know finding harmony in life is important but my attempting to get my health back has resulted in all hell breaking loose.

"I know finding harmony in life is important but my attempting to get my health back has resulted in all hell breaking loose.

I can tell you this.....they are very related. It is very much the same jounrey. Getting coherent is what it's all about at every level and they are connected to each other. Hell breaking loose is great. It means change is manifesting. Fitting into a lesser mold is limiting to the spiritual/human potential. Shaking up your belief systems so that only the pure essential stuff is left and that it bonds with your true life purpose is what healing is all about at the very core. We create our realities from within to without...not the other way around. Most people do the exact opposite and thus live a life based on fractured, haphazard and incongruent belief systems. Is it any wonder they manifest dis ease. It is all connected.

Following why you have lyme is an education of the highest power and order. Once you have that answer you will be forever changed and you will see this manifestation as a blessing that has stripped away many veils of illusion.

Their is also a collective energy (combined intent) of "all of us" (fractured self) at play here too.

I will say this...the current lyme was bio engineered. Let me just drop that into your view and see where it takes you on your journey of empowerment.

Yeah. I kinda know what you're talking about here. But sometimes I think I've just gotten stuck in the tornadoe of change. My belief system has radically changed - I no longer trust anyting associated with BIG money and the gov't creeps me out. Most people are "asleep" blindly trusting in existing structures as if they were sacred and not man-made. Nothing is as it seems. I know Lyme is most likely a bio warfare weapon gotten loose. Who did this and why are questions I can only guess at now.

Many many doors have not opened for me and I struggle to find my place. I would love to be an artist of some sort and live among others in a creative free-thinking environment. I have felt called do work with suffering children hurt by the establishment of lies. But not sure how to do this? I feel I can no longer be part of the "system" as I can only see it's flaws now. I want to write about all that I've learned yet am unsure where to begin.

Thanks for all the info. I had thought about throwing in some Grapefruit-Seed-Extract here and there, after reading about a persons antibiotic treatment....how her Dr. had her switch between two different kind. I thought that must certainly apply to OLE and GSE. I am very anxious to get started, since I have already seen a big difference after starting OLE.

The proper diet and lifestyle is easy, since I've been a fitness person all my life. I don't drink and I don't eat fast food. Proper nutrition is very important to me.

Hi Alisaun, I'm really sorry to hear your diagnosis. I pray that this is an opportunity for breakthrough in many areas for you as you search this matter out and overcome it!

While I don't have Lyme, I do have some other challenges and have in the past two weeks been transitioning to a raw vegan diet. The first week I was extremely tired to the core--as I was 100% raw and had to cut back. But I did not cut back to meats, etc. I cut back to vegan only, just some cooked.

I used to have problems drinking wheatgrass, but I heard that it will cause nausea if one is toxic. I am happy to report that I can drink two ounces now like it was water!

You can just see it in people's faces---the LIFE transformation after going raw. I had seen Lapis' post in this regard..... http://www.beautifulonraw.com and look at the transformation page. It's amazing!

I also started adding Himalayan pink salt 1/4 tsp. to each glass of water I drink.

I think that Lapis had some great ideas here......I hope that you find the path to health you need!!! Blessings!!

I went through the same: different diagnoses, wrong diagnoses, doctors who told me that they could not help me anymore. But what I have learned during the last 12 months is that it does not really matter whether I have fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue or WHAT exactly I have because all of the mentioned diseases are auto-immune diseases (incl. Lyme, rheumatism, sjoegren's, etc.), caused by a lack of different substances.

I am off any jobs since 10 years and on disabled pension since 5 years. I did everything I could get a hand on: cleansing, magnets, homeopathy, vitamins, detoxification, etc.,etc. This list would fill a whole page. Finally, 8 months ago I found a technology through a friend that has changed my life. Since week 1 I did not have any muscle pain anymore and my fatigue is reduced to an extend that I can work for between 8 and 12 hours a day (before it was 30 minutes at max.).

Now, I am not familiar with this website and I have no idea whether or not it is welcome to share websites or products. Therefore I will wait for your response and then go from there. All I can say is that there IS an answer to all of the over 80 immune diseases.

One of my grandchildren was bitten when he was 2 yr with a tick and developed a rash which was never diagnosed as lyme, but the medicineman.com in Albany, Ga. suggested that we use Colostrum (from New Zealand) and he was cured so quickly (almost 2 days)that we considered it a miracle. When he breaks out now, we use this again.

Also, I read (but cannot document) a US Senator who used this for his own lyme disease. Just know it is a good product and helped us. Try it - it does not have any side effects that we know of.

Hi Alsion,
Greetings from Australia! I have Lyme 26 years, misdiagnosed as CFS/ME, fibro, depression, anxiety, hypochondria and possible MS for 22 long, hard years!!!! I lost my career, family, friends, etc, etc, etc because of the misdiagnosis. I believe that over 90% of CFS/ME, fibro is caused by Lyme and co-infections. The scary thing is that I believe I contracted Lyme sexually. I have some good articles which support this.
Four years of antibiotics failed to help me at this late stage. I have been on a new protocol for 9 months and seeing many improvements. This may actually be a cure. Check it out at http://www.Lymephotos.com and http://www.Lymestrategies.com
It is quite amazing.
All the best,
Rosemary.