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“VANCOUVER—B.C.’s real-estate market has gone from being one of the strongest in the country to the weakest as the number of sales drops sharply in comparison to other provinces.

The B.C. Real Estate Association (BCREA) is forecasting a 21 per cent drop in sales in 2018. Meanwhile, the number of sales in July was 24 per cent lower than the previous July, according to Douglas Porter, chief economist and managing director of BMO Financial Group….

“…..Compared to the rest of the country we are noticing that it’s especially weak, which is quite a turnaround from what we’ve seen over much of the past 10 to 15 years,” Porter said. “It’s quite unusual for Vancouver to stick out.”

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6485 Cedarhurst is a new build 6481 sq ft high end home. So current assessed building value not correct. Last asking price was 10mil. As recent as May 2018 it was still listed at 11mil, Manyee Lui listing. See pics on her website. It actually backs onto SW Marine, often heavy traffic.

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At the time of that assessment on July 01 2017 it was noted in the description “Non-Manualized Structures” which would indicate an unfinished or incomplete building.

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Kudos to the people fighting the small micro battles here. I urge you to go on twitter and fight for Maxime Bernier. He is a champions for lowering immigration levels. And immigration levels and housing prices are 100% correlated.

Lower immigration and you will immediately lower housing prices and rents.

Support him.

And anyone that argues here or wants to debate whether immigration levels increase house prices can go Fuck off. Don’t be starting that shit you fucking Social Justice Warriors. The days of being politically correct are over.

If anything, you will get a punch in the face if you start debating this nowadays.

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Take a look at Bernier’s leadership platform. He does not even acknowledge that there is a problem with housing affordability in Canada. He does not propose any reduction in the role of CMHC, despite wanting to radically reduce the role of government in many other areas. He proposes eliminating the capital gains tax across the board, which would encourage RE speculators.

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Not in RE or related industries. Just trying to be devils advocate to point out holes in Bear logic so the people here can lead a coordinated attack.

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patriotz, do you feel remorse for leading people astray for a decade and a half?

i wonder how many people listened to you and didn’t buy a house because of what you wrote here.

i wonder how much financial and emotional stress you have caused people.

i couldn’t take it knowing i caused so much misery and suffering. if i was you i’d try rationalize my actions by saying something like “i’m not a financial advisor” and “people are responsible for their own decisions”. that’s the only way i could look at myself in the mirror.

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Yah patriotz, cause there’s no stress in being over leveraged and maxing out my HELOC while rates increase and the bank’s valuation of my home drops. Good luck HMB, I don’t know what your real story is but I’m guessing devaluation is your worst fear… or you work in RE.

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Seems like bears like you are even more stressed than the “moronic” homeowers who bought and is now forever priced in.

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I’m also curious to see the flip side, with increasing interest rates, tightening mortgage lending (google M2+ money supply), freezing/lowering HELOC’s; how stressful is it for those who are over-leveraged with the bank threatening foreclosure.

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And what if you are “Forever priced in”? Owing $1,000,000 on a place valued at $400,000 like apartments in Dublin, Ireland?

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bear logic: buying a house before it multiplied in value is bad decision.

bear logic: being priced out forever and facing renovations and ever increasing rents is a good decision.

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when did i tell someone to buy? it’s been years. now that HAM is being targeted, and people are starting to talk about immigration all bets are off.

i wonder if patriotz feels bad for telling everyone that HAM is a myth? i mean, the guy couldn’t have been more wrong about so much if he was intentionally trying to mislead people.

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I jump to that conclusion because your name is literally “Hyper-mega-Bull”

It’s just strange that you’re still pumping even with articles showing major price decline, trying to muddy the narrative. You’d figure you’d lay low until the cycle ends and you can get back to hyper mega bulling again. Posting so much and during Vancouver work hours, strange…

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Patriots is as worse as they come. Deceiving without emotion.

Secretly buys while telling others not to. Also, he is a huge immigration proponent. Works for Trudeau.

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“He does not even acknowledge that there is a problem with housing affordability in Canada. ”

Like other politicians are doing something about it. Prices up big time since the Federal Liberals took power and up 15% in one year under the BC NDP. I guess you like being lied to.

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It’s important to show support for Bernier since it puts pressure on the conservative party to rethink their immigration policy. Bernier received far more support from Canadians than the conservative party had anticipated and now they’re backtracking…that’s the whole point of it. His housing policy is irrelevant at this point. Finally immigration policy is in the spotlight and we need to leverage this opportunity.

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Supporting him will split the Right which is just what Mr. Dress-up wants. If he wants to start his own party fine but right now he is an MP in the Conservative party and I support the leader not him.

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“Supporting him will split the Right which is just what Mr. Dress-up wants.”

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“Mr. Scheer won the leadership race by a razor-thin margin in the May, 2017, contest. The ballots were immediately destroyed after the vote was counted.

The proposal to amend the party constitution, supported by a dozen riding associations, calls for an independent audit of the entire leadership process and says ballots should not be destroyed until at least 30 days after the contest ends.

“I’d like to think that the process was entirely transparent, but I’m not 100-per-cent convinced about that,” Mr. Baxendale told The Globe. “There was no reason to destroy the ballots.”

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“The end might be near for a seven-year battle that has kept the public from easily finding sales data for homes in the Greater Toronto Area. The Supreme Court of Canada said it will announce on Thursday morning whether it will hear an appeal from the Toronto Real Estate Board (TREB) that would keep TREB’s members from publishing home sales data on their password-protected sites.”

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Hoping that: 1) The decision favours transparency and 2) That transparency spreads throughout the country all the way to the west coast.

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“Not a single orca born in the past three years has been known to survive, according to the Center for Whale Research. That’s why the fact that Tahlequah recently gave birth was so exciting, if only for a brief moment. Her calf died just 30 minutes after it was first spotted by a whale watch operator on July 24.”

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This complete and utter fake news and lies being created to shut down the salmon fishing industry by the left wing eco-terrorists.

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What’s fake about that story is whale tourist ship practically dogging the whales, hardly giving the creatures living space

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Not a single orca born in the past three years has been known to survive

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There are different populations of killer whales in BC. This is referring to the southern residents, which are listed as an endangered species under federal legislation. The calfs keep dying. It’s not faken nor is it a consiracy to shut down salmon fishing (although efforts to protect the whales’ food source, chinook salmon, have affected fishermen’s livlihoods and that is unfortunate). Other populations in BC are doing OK. I wonder why people need to pretend they are experts at everything.

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“center for whale research” sounds like a couple of hippies in a house with a motorhome.

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With sales in the gutter, these HELOC monkeys are no longer borrowing to invest in more real estate, they’re borrowing to live day to day.

And now with prices falling this option will not be available to them much longer.

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It should, but the CoV will likely fully support this speculator owner dirtbag instead.

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What about the orca J2, nick named Granny? She is said to be over 100 years old. Yet she lives on while the Puget Sound orca population heads for extinction.

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Male whales are just like human males? Nobody wants a piece of granny.

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Anyone saw that stupid movie “Crazy Rich Asians” over the weekend? Piece of shit movie trying to glorify crazy shit Asian culture. But it does highlight two interesting facts. One is that whenever Chinese mass migrate to other countries during crisis at home, the welcoming country ALWAYS get the short end of the stick as the Chinese drains the wealth and money from the new host country like a blood sucking parasite. We can see it happening right now in Vancouver!

Second, is the only two countries that fought against the Chinese parasites are Malaysia and Indonesia, both Muslim majority countries.

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judging by the box office numbers, not many asians or others for that matter bothered to go see this (unlike you, of course, who probably was first in line and cheering with pride the moment the lights dimmed…)

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when all said and done global box office wont even hit $100M, perhaps not even $75M… simply because asians in general wont see this.

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Nope. Not planning to. Your second point, when did Malaysia and Indonesia fought against China? Maybe some minor protest. In the past, there are only 2 countries on earth fought and had control over China. Mongolia and Japan – both of which still dislike Chinese.

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“Mongolia and Japan – both of which still dislike Chinese”

They’ve now been joined by 195 more countries who dislike the chinese.

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Poetic justice – the film is criticized in Singapore itself for ignoring the Malay and Indian minorities.

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no, I’d say the chances of it being used as an illegal hotel/hostel/brothel/casino are much higher…

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Where Chinese go, they bring the worse with them. Now, we can expect this kind of polluted lung cancer causing air quality every year going forward! Thanks to China! Can’t stay content polluting itself out of existence!

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you could be right. a friend was in Tofino a couple weeks back and saw an asian mob cooking a typical over-the-top seafood buffet on the beach using gas powered hot pot burners completely oblivious of the fact that this activity was banned at the time.

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no, they toss those back after the claws have been removed. come on, pay attention man…

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70% of people are getting wealthier while 30% are getting poorer. Basically those that own are getting richer. Those with suites are laughing all the way to Cancun.

The poorer spend less. The wealthy start going on more vacations and buy goodies abroad.

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I’m noticing hotel prices in Vancouver are much lower this summer than previous summers. Astronomical hotel prices were the biggest reason for the the high airbnb rates in Vancouver which is also one of the biggest reasons why condo prices increased so much recently…so perhaps we’ll see a reverse of all the of above.

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Do you guys think 2019 will bring any correction to prices under $1 million? Sooner or later HAM is going to return.

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I sure hope so man. I’ll buy you a beer every Friday for a year if Surrey crashes 30%.

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Major correction is happening now in all categories. Some people are in denial, but data does not lie. The 90 percent two year jump will be fully reversed, since it required continuation of money laundering that has been cracked down upon by all countries involved. This is a global trend that is affecting other cities as well.

Also, looks like Liberals will lose within foreseeable future, because money laundering scandal has upset a lot of people (10x worse than NDP fast ferries), and most of swing voters are now firmly in Green/NDP camp.

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“money laundering scandal has upset a lot of people”

Are you refering to this? Where is Eby! Has he gone back in hiding?

In his report, German credited Great Canadian executives for being forthcoming and professional. Sandy Garossino, a former Crown prosecutor and long-time critic of crime in B.C. casinos, said she can’t believe German did not interview Soo. “Walter Soo is the architect of the VIP (gaming program),” she said. “It puts him right at the centre of the issue around money laundering, and improper transactions.”

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the vast majority of voters are homeowners with most/all of their net worth tied up in real estate. a housing crash would end this brief run the NDP might be enjoying. when all is said and done, money arguably comes first, even before family matters, politics and other issues deemed to be not so important when your life savings is going up in smoke

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until real volume comes into play, which it hasn’t, I would reserve judgement on the matter. sure, there are bits and pieces being tossed about but no real indicator as of yet that masses of properties are or will be liquidated.

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I want to see a crash. I’m sorry but the speculators need to be taken out for the count.

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The sales numbers this year are very bearish. The inventory is neutral. But, prices are surprisingly holding up well when you look through the data. Other than a few markets for SFH, prices have held up. Hopefully that’s not the case going forward, but it has to be troubling for bears.

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Prices will not hold up. There is too much inventory coming on-line and speculative demand has dissipated.

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Maybe, but prices don’t lie either. And prices to this point have held up for the majority of the market, despite all the headwinds we’ve experienced this past year.

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A big blow to the Realtor Monolpoly

A battle over real estate data that has dragged on for years has come to a close, as a Supreme Court of Canada judgement this morning opened the door for realtors to expand the way they share home sales data on the Internet.

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“The Real Estate Board of Greater Vancouver recently released statistics that showed a whopping 30 per cent decline in home sales in the region when comparing July 2018 sales figures to the ones in July 2017.”

“And the July sales figures of this year were down almost 15 per cent from June, which suggests sales are continuously declining. The slowdown is the biggest in 18 years”

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If BC is this reliant on non-productive real estate for revenue generation then there is something seriously wrong in this province.

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real estate is everything in Vanc and much of BC. a housing crash would immediately cast a huge shadow over many other industries that are either directly or indirectly related. developers would shelve projects due to poor market, finance co’s would batten down the hatches and the consumer would pull their horns in either as a result of the negative wealth effect or simply out of necessity. the only ones left standing would be service workers catering to whoever is still in the mood to visit our polluted beaches, breathe our toxic air and stand in agonising lines for the same overpriced flagship attractions that the whole world has been brainwashed into believing they must see before they die

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no one will be doing lipstick and mascara jobs as flipping will be largely out of the question nor will they be upgrading just for the sake of posting another superficial pic on instagram. yep, all of a sudden those slightly dated but otherwise perfectly functional appliances in that dreadful white finish dont look so bad after all.

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Bernier set to make an announcement.

Hopefully a new political party the likes of which Canada has never seen.

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This is a joyous and historic day for Canada!!! The Populism that has been sweeping the West for a number of years has finally found a political voice in Canada!!! Maxime Bernier is a true Canadian hero who can bring together Canadians of all backgrounds around a new message of hope that puts Canadians first! I am part of the growing #BernierNation movement on Twitter. This is a movement made up of Canadians of all backgrounds and from all regions of Canada, including urban and rural. As a gay Trump supporter who has revealed quite raw and intimate details of my gay coming out process in the 90s in my Polar Bear Diaries Youtube channel and blog, I have been absolutely astonished by how warmly I have been welcomed into the Conservative fold. The open-mindedness, kindness, and intelligence displayed by… Read more »

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I like Bernier and I lean Libertarian on many issues. But, I’m also a pragmatist and I’d rather see the Conservatives win the next election and we’re better to do that under a single tent. So, it’s hard for me to support him if he can’t support the party. It’s a mistake to split the right of centre vote IMO.

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>>> everywhere you look there are busloads of investors disguised as tourists leaving various signs of their presence behind. if you take the air, sea and scenic land away from Vancouver and BC in general, what is really left?

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Whats left…right? GOOGLE potemkin village…

“Beautiful BC.”………Vancouver is a world class city…blah blah..mostly architectural paint and veneer With a litany of bad Gov’t policies at all levels…the future IS bleak…

The Mountains, Ocean etc. over time simply look like a 3-D postcard..boring..

Horgan has apparently said our forest fires will be the new norm…..2 bad years in a row…how many tourist now are po’d at smog and future ones thinking twice?

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say what you want. maybe we should adopt some of the measures that have been implemented in Paris? like separate entrances and shopping areas for “tourists”? you basically can’t go to any semi well known destination in Cda without it being completely overrun by rude, obnoxious, ill-manned mainland chinese who see no problem flinging their excrement and other trash wherever they feel like it and essentially ruining the experience for anyone else that happens to be at the same destination

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Ha! Did some 4×4 around Stave lake and Chilliwack river. Campers all seem to be locals – with boats and ATVs. You can’t believe what shit they leave behind its unbelievable. I even saw a freaking fire pit right under a tree. If locals don’t care why would visitors care?

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Casinos etc.

The problem is Eby and Horgan or ANY gov’t will only go so far….citizens will never get the whole truth. The mess is an intricately woven mess that would take many people down…even the “holier than thou” NDP…….(remember BingoGate?)

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