MAINLY ON DEFENSE. Larry Foote is slow and getting abused. if Timmons dont start , we are in for a long year. Keisel SUCK also

SteelTorch

08-14-2008, 08:29 PM

You posted this in the wrong place.

Please go here for that:

http://discuss.pittsburghlive.com/viewforum.php?f=2

:wink:

Shawn

08-14-2008, 09:54 PM

That's because Larry Foote and Keisel both suck. Timmons is the cure for Foote but I have no idea what we are going to do about Keisel.

Mel Blount's G

08-14-2008, 10:45 PM

I was not impressed with our 1st team pass blocking against a 4 man rush. It's preseason though and hopefully my worst fears will not come to life

BURGH86STEEL

08-14-2008, 11:13 PM

That's because Larry Foote and Keisel both suck. Timmons is the cure for Foote but I have no idea what we are going to do about Keisel.

Strange how people like to single certain players out when others did not play their best games. Just because our guys lose some battles does not mean they suck. They are going up against other NFL caliber players.

AkronSteel

08-15-2008, 01:56 AM

There seemed to be very little want to tonight! The team seemed flat and not real focused. I'm sure the Bills wanted to impress the Canadian fans......but come on!

This team on the road seems to have very little edge to them. They seem to just go through the motions on the road! Its very concerning!

BIG FAN

08-15-2008, 05:19 AM

When Ms. BIG Fan has to point out to me, "My farts and snots are hitting harder than our first team D."
And I have to agree, that does look pathetic.

stlrz d

08-15-2008, 07:24 AM

There seemed to be very little want to tonight! The team seemed flat and not real focused. I'm sure the Bills wanted to impress the Canadian fans......but come on!

This team on the road seems to have very little edge to them. They seem to just go through the motions on the road! Its very concerning!

Good point...the NFL ordered the Steelers to dog it so as to get the cannucks all fired up! :P

Ozey74

08-15-2008, 07:46 AM

I wish someone would tell our D that you can't tackle with your shoulders only.

frankthetank1

08-15-2008, 08:07 AM

i didnt see the game and probably wont have time till sunday. saw the post game on line. the defense must of played pretty poorly, but im not worried its only preseason. ben's pass to santonio must have been pretty sweet. he is gonna go off this year. dixon's run must have been really nice, its exciting watching him play. i actually like that pick now

DukieBoy

08-15-2008, 09:49 AM

Though this was a pre-season game w/o much scheming or special packages, defensive trends established in the second half of last year are continuing, and this is a concern.

This excerpted from Dulac's article in the PG:
Still, there are too many holes in the defense, and it has been this way since the second half of last season, even though the defense ranked No. 1 overall in the NFL. And the lapses have been noticeable because too many came in the fourth quarter.
On five occasions in 2007, the defense failed to protect a lead in the final minutes after the offense rallied from deficits, some double-digit shortages. The only time it didn't result in defeat was when Cleveland's Phil Dawson missed a 52-yard field goal as time expired in Week 9.
The most severe collapse came in the playoff loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars, when the offense rallied from a 28-10 deficit with three touchdowns in the fourth quarter and the defense let the Jaguars go 44 yards in eight plays and kick the winning field goal with 37 seconds remaining.

And also, there seems to me (please correct this if it is wrong) be a trend of giving up points early in games, on the first drive of the opponents.

And then there is the trend of giving a 10-yard cushion to the opponent receivers, consistent, predictable and easily exploitable.

And finally, there is the trend of poor tackling. This also from Dulac:
The tackling wasn't much better against the Bills.
On three consecutive plays on the Bills' second touchdown drive, Gay missed a tackle on wide receiver Roscoe Parrish, resulting in a first down; cornerback Ike Taylor missed a tackle on wide receiver Lee Evans, resulting in a 17-yard gain, and safety Ryan Clark missed a tackle on a swing pass to running back Fred Jackson, turning a loss into a 5-yard gain.

Dulac's article is right on: http://www.postgazette.com/pg/08228/904538-66.stm

BIG FAN

08-15-2008, 10:05 AM

That's because Larry Foote and Keisel both suck. Timmons is the cure for Foote but I have no idea what we are going to do about Keisel.

Strange how people like to single certain players out when others did not play their best games. Just because our guys lose some battles does not mean they suck. They are going up against other NFL caliber players.

:Agree

eniparadoxgma

08-15-2008, 01:49 PM

Though this was a pre-season game w/o much scheming or special packages, defensive trends established in the second half of last year are continuing, and this is a concern.

This excerpted from Dulac's article in the PG:
Still, there are too many holes in the defense, and it has been this way since the second half of last season, even though the defense ranked No. 1 overall in the NFL. And the lapses have been noticeable because too many came in the fourth quarter.
On five occasions in 2007, the defense failed to protect a lead in the final minutes after the offense rallied from deficits, some double-digit shortages. The only time it didn't result in defeat was when Cleveland's Phil Dawson missed a 52-yard field goal as time expired in Week 9.
The most severe collapse came in the playoff loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars, when the offense rallied from a 28-10 deficit with three touchdowns in the fourth quarter and the defense let the Jaguars go 44 yards in eight plays and kick the winning field goal with 37 seconds remaining.

And also, there seems to me (please correct this if it is wrong) be a trend of giving up points early in games, on the first drive of the opponents.

And then there is the trend of giving a 10-yard cushion to the opponent receivers, consistent, predictable and easily exploitable.

And finally, there is the trend of poor tackling. This also from Dulac:
The tackling wasn't much better against the Bills.
On three consecutive plays on the Bills' second touchdown drive, Gay missed a tackle on wide receiver Roscoe Parrish, resulting in a first down; cornerback Ike Taylor missed a tackle on wide receiver Lee Evans, resulting in a 17-yard gain, and safety Ryan Clark missed a tackle on a swing pass to running back Fred Jackson, turning a loss into a 5-yard gain.

Dulac's article is right on: http://www.postgazette.com/pg/08228/904538-66.stm

The poor tackling was bad, and very noticeable on those three plays in a row.

BIG FAN

08-15-2008, 04:29 PM

Though this was a pre-season game w/o much scheming or special packages, defensive trends established in the second half of last year are continuing, and this is a concern.

This excerpted from Dulac's article in the PG:
Still, there are too many holes in the defense, and it has been this way since the second half of last season, even though the defense ranked No. 1 overall in the NFL. And the lapses have been noticeable because too many came in the fourth quarter.
On five occasions in 2007, the defense failed to protect a lead in the final minutes after the offense rallied from deficits, some double-digit shortages. The only time it didn't result in defeat was when Cleveland's Phil Dawson missed a 52-yard field goal as time expired in Week 9.
The most severe collapse came in the playoff loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars, when the offense rallied from a 28-10 deficit with three touchdowns in the fourth quarter and the defense let the Jaguars go 44 yards in eight plays and kick the winning field goal with 37 seconds remaining.

And also, there seems to me (please correct this if it is wrong) be a trend of giving up points early in games, on the first drive of the opponents.

And then there is the trend of giving a 10-yard cushion to the opponent receivers, consistent, predictable and easily exploitable.

And finally, there is the trend of poor tackling. This also from Dulac:
The tackling wasn't much better against the Bills.
On three consecutive plays on the Bills' second touchdown drive, Gay missed a tackle on wide receiver Roscoe Parrish, resulting in a first down; cornerback Ike Taylor missed a tackle on wide receiver Lee Evans, resulting in a 17-yard gain, and safety Ryan Clark missed a tackle on a swing pass to running back Fred Jackson, turning a loss into a 5-yard gain.

Dulac's article is right on: http://www.postgazette.com/pg/08228/904538-66.stm

The poor tackling was bad, and very noticeable on those three plays in a row.

No doubt, poor tackling was the reason we could not shut them down with the first string. Overall a flat def. performance. I know these preseason games are for evaluating talent, but sometimes last night I felt I did not see enough urgency, Grabbing is not tackling as we saw.

Steelhere10

08-15-2008, 04:36 PM

That's because Larry Foote and Keisel both suck. Timmons is the cure for Foote but I have no idea what we are going to do about Keisel.

Strange how people like to single certain players out when others did not play their best games. Just because our guys lose some battles does not mean they suck. They are going up against other NFL caliber players.it might be because, they were they main suspects. every score or big play was on Foote and Keisel was playing from the bleachers or where he was being drove to. :Boobs

SteelHoss

08-15-2008, 05:08 PM

Any loss is a disappointment, however, it was only an exhibition game. I believe we will see a more intense O and D during the Viking game. Any issues of poor performance will be addressed in this week's reheasal for that game. Coach T just might want to open it up a bit against his former team. :2c

NC Steeler Fan

08-15-2008, 05:21 PM

Khrist, people, it's the preseason...not the end of the world.

We get out of this one without any injuries? (...haven't seen the details yet.)

Who let this doomsayer in anyways?
:roll:

BIG FAN

08-15-2008, 06:20 PM

Khrist, people, it's the preseason...not the end of the world.

We get out of this one without any injuries? (...haven't seen the details yet.)

Who let this doomsayer in anyways?
:roll:

Havent heard of anything notable as far as injuries.
You havin' a good time up there?
Heres to ya' :Cheers