It's indeed disturbing to observe that the "american peace" or "pax americana" promoted in the video - if it had of course "reduce the number of casualties of war" - has broken every record of civilians dying during peacetime: It would be very interesting if the video would put in charts the human beings dying from hunger each year for example.
A child is dying from hunger every 6 seconds...while the the world wealth has never been that high, or so we are told... Adding those data would add an additional nice perspective...

Jeffk 1970 wrote:I watched the documentary "Nazi Concentration Camps" on Netflix yesterday.
American occupation forces documented the various concentration camps as they liberated them, this movie is the result.
They talked about the following:
Hadamar (not a concentration camp)
Leipzig (camp near the town)
Penig (camp near the town)
Ohrdruff (Patton and Eisenhower documented as examining) One interesting thing documented is a grill system used to burn bodies. It's amazing how prevalent this system of burning was.
Breendonck in Belgium
Hanover
Nordhausen
Belsen
Dachau (gas chamber shown and demonstrated)
Mauthausen
Buchenwald

The images of corpses and starving prisoners still burn. Victims showed the results of torture. A US officer testified on camera about the existence of a gas chamber at Mauthausen. I know we've discussed this bit before.

There were obvious issues with this, camps were described as "death camps," a misconception understandable at the time.
I was reluctant to watch this, but, it was not bad. If nothing else it showed the conditions in the camps at the end of the war.

Night Will Fall also mentions the grill system to burn bodies.

“They say..that in Slonim they gathered in the town square 14,000 people...and all were machine-gunned. I ask you, is it possible to believe such a thing?...How can the world remain silent? It is probably not true.”
Calel Perechodnik, Polish Jew, 1942

Jeffk 1970 wrote:I watched the documentary "Nazi Concentration Camps" on Netflix yesterday.
American occupation forces documented the various concentration camps as they liberated them, this movie is the result.
They talked about the following:
Hadamar (not a concentration camp)
Leipzig (camp near the town)
Penig (camp near the town)
Ohrdruff (Patton and Eisenhower documented as examining) One interesting thing documented is a grill system used to burn bodies. It's amazing how prevalent this system of burning was.
Breendonck in Belgium
Hanover
Nordhausen
Belsen
Dachau (gas chamber shown and demonstrated)
Mauthausen
Buchenwald

The images of corpses and starving prisoners still burn. Victims showed the results of torture. A US officer testified on camera about the existence of a gas chamber at Mauthausen. I know we've discussed this bit before.

There were obvious issues with this, camps were described as "death camps," a misconception understandable at the time.
I was reluctant to watch this, but, it was not bad. If nothing else it showed the conditions in the camps at the end of the war.

Night Will Fall also mentions the grill system to burn bodies.

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« The Terror here is a horrifying fact. There is a fear that reaches down and haunts all sections of the community. No household, however humble, apparently but what lives in constant fear of nocturnal raid by the secret police. . .This particular purge is undoubtedly political. . . It is deliberately projected by the party leaders, who themselves regretted the necessity for it. »Joseph E. Davies

Misplaced recordings of Holocaust survivors singing melodies and recounting their pasts have resurfaced at the University of Akron. The recordings were made by David Boder, a psychologist from Chicago, who visited former prisoners and recorded their songs on a newly rediscovered reel.

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According to experts and scholars, the 10 stages of every genocide are

I have just begun watching Un village français on DVD. It's a multi-part series based in a small village called Villeneuve and covers the period from June 1940 to the war's end in 1945. I had hoped to practice my French comprehension with it, but it is subtitled, and my eye refuses to resist the subtitles. Just as well, perhaps, as the French is very authentic, spoken rapidly and not enunciated distinctly, which further handicaps me in addition to the hearing aids I have to wear to be sure of understanding even what my wife is saying to me.

Anyway, the main characters are laid out in the part I just watched. One of them is a prosperous businessman, Monsieur Schwartz. Just as in America, that name tips the viewer off that he's probably Jewish and is going to have trouble. By the end of Episode 1, the Germans are requisitioning his spacious house for military use. Schwartz has a crew of Spaniards working for him, and the foreman of the group is a Communist organizer. The local French police and the French security service appear at the beginning, looking for the source of Communist propaganda, and finding it in Schwartz's mill. I suspect the Security guy is going to stay around and collaborate with the Nazis (the local policeman tells him that, given the occupation that is beginning, it is not worthwhile to hunt for Communists), and that some of Schwartz's friends and neighbors are likely to turn against him, so it's going to be tense. The first episode is mostly get-acquainted with the characters, amid incredible chaos. But it looks like it will be interesting.

“When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.”

“They say..that in Slonim they gathered in the town square 14,000 people...and all were machine-gunned. I ask you, is it possible to believe such a thing?...How can the world remain silent? It is probably not true.”
Calel Perechodnik, Polish Jew, 1942

“They say..that in Slonim they gathered in the town square 14,000 people...and all were machine-gunned. I ask you, is it possible to believe such a thing?...How can the world remain silent? It is probably not true.”
Calel Perechodnik, Polish Jew, 1942

“They say..that in Slonim they gathered in the town square 14,000 people...and all were machine-gunned. I ask you, is it possible to believe such a thing?...How can the world remain silent? It is probably not true.”
Calel Perechodnik, Polish Jew, 1942

Much as my wife and I have not liked anything by Ken Burns, we've decided to watch his 18-hour Vietnam documentary on PBS. For some of us here (ahem, the old folks), that war touches us in different but intensely personal ways.

Statistical Mechanic wrote:Much as my wife and I have not liked anything by Ken Burns, we've decided to watch his 18-hour Vietnam documentary on PBS. For some of us here (ahem, the old folks), that war touches us in different but intensely personal ways.

I've got it set up on my DVR. I won't watch it until it's done, then I'll binge watch it.

I went through a period where I studied the Vietnam War to the exclusion of everything else. One of the best books on it is Vietnam: A History by Stanley Karnow, another is a A Bright Shining Lie by Neil Sheehan. The Karnow book is based on a PBS Documentary, I've never seen it.

I'll probably revisit the period when I get a chance but it will have to wait.

“They say..that in Slonim they gathered in the town square 14,000 people...and all were machine-gunned. I ask you, is it possible to believe such a thing?...How can the world remain silent? It is probably not true.”
Calel Perechodnik, Polish Jew, 1942

Of course, being active in the antiwar movement, I read books, magazines, pamphlets, reports - everything I could get my hands on. I read government position papers, US military publications, Vietnamese publications, peace studies material, GI produced brochures and stuff, religiously oriented material, teach-in stuff, and on and on. I knew or met people like Dave Dellinger (Fifth Avenue Vietnam Peace Parade and Chicago 7) and the Berrigans, David Horowitz (yes, he started out antiwar!), Michael Klare (I knew him very well), and then some really radical folks like Dave Blalock (VVAW) and David Fine (chilling memories of that dude). I cheered wildly when LBJ decided against running for president in '68, watched war footage on nightly news, threw things at the TV when Nixon and Kissinger spoke, commiserated with close friends who served and came home to rabble-rousers like me trying to stop the war I got my ass tossed in jail during Mayday '71 - and won a lawsuit against the government for violating my rights in arresting and holding me (I actually received real cash money!).

As an undergrad I studied Vietnamese history one year (reading David Marr, Joseph Buttinger, Paul Mus, and many other authors), focusing mostly on the long, rich history of Vietnamese anti colonialism. Still later I read just about every work of fiction on the war I could find - my favorites being Tom Suddick's A Few Good Men and Tim O'Brien's Going After Cacciato. I think I have these right, it was a long time ago.

Without giving anything away, I will say that Burns' approach to his audience is to allow his interview subjects to have their say (with people you haven't heard of, from many diverse pov's), so that very different voices and perspectives are presented; part one, which dealt with anti colonialism, was very focused on Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Minh, to the exclusion of deep anti colonial background and almost nothing on the sociology of the Vietnamese countryside, about which Paul Mus wrote so well. But the first part is worth watching and includes some stuff that is quite informative along with a lot of stuff that isn't commonly known or appreciated.

Statistical Mechanic wrote:Much as my wife and I have not liked anything by Ken Burns, we've decided to watch his 18-hour Vietnam documentary on PBS. For some of us here (ahem, the old folks), that war touches us in different but intensely personal ways.

I have been watching it and I really like what I see. Good Lord the footage of the Hanoi March was hard to watch.........

The material on the inside decision making in Hanoi and Washington is very good. The tapes of LBJ's phone calls show those calls to have been exactly as one imagined them. The Hanoi stuff, not so much, he's got material that we didn't know about in the '60s.

Statistical Mechanic wrote:Without giving anything away, I will say that Burns' approach to his audience is to allow his interview subjects to have their say (with people you haven't heard of, from many diverse pov's), so that very different voices and perspectives are presented; part one, which dealt with anti colonialism, was very focused on Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Minh, to the exclusion of deep anti colonial background and almost nothing on the sociology of the Vietnamese countryside, about which Paul Mus wrote so well. But the first part is worth watching and includes some stuff that is quite informative along with a lot of stuff that isn't commonly known or appreciated.

A few observations on parts 1-4

1. I was always aware that Ho was much more of a Nationalist than a Communist, but I was of the opinion that Giap was the same. Evidently Giap was much more of a doctrinaire Marxist than Ho - the dynamic between the two is strikingly similar to that of Castro and Guevara for those of you who have read heavily into the Cuban Revolution.

2. The discussion of the War between the French and the Viet Minh lacked detail, but I understood that brevity was needed. For example, the critical role of Jean de Lattre de Tassigny was never touched upon (even though he he was shown in archival footage several times). De Tassigny had been one of the finest Free French generals of the Second World War and as commander of the French troops in Indochina he absolutely dominated Giap's Viet Minh in multiple engagement, inflicting huge casualties. It was only after De Tassigny fell terminally ill and had to return to France that Giap started raking up major victories. That being said, the description/coverage of Dien Bien Phu was phenomenal.

3. I was always under the impression that Vo Nguyen Giap was pronounced "Vowh New-yen Jee-yaap" LOL, it's actually "Vaaowwww Nyinnn Zap". I felt like an absolute moron when I heard that and I am still kicking myself over it lol.

4. Part three discusses how Le Duan had basically marginalized Ho and Vo as early as 1963. This, IMO, vindicates my earlier argument on the limited roles of both in the ensuing war with the US.

5. I maintain that there is nothing morally wrong with the US acting in a limited way to prevent the mass shootings, collectivization of agriculture, and mass deportations that would have (and did) accompany North Vietnamese rule over the whole country. However everyone in their right mind should have known that sending in hundreds of thousands of troops was doomed to ignominious failure, the warning signs were there from the beginning.

6. McNamara is a case study in how analytics are not the answer to literally everything.

7. I hated it when that old VC dude with the jacked teeth bragged about hacking a man to death - he's a sick {!#%@} and I'm upset that he's lived this long, the VC were really no different from the SS in my opinion and this series shows it.

8. Morely Shafer was at some point not an ancient dude on 60 Minutes! Who would have thought!?!?!?!? Unbelievable!!!!!!

9. Speaking of which - you don't win hearts and minds by burning villages, I mean come on guys.........

I have yet to watch this past Sunday's episode on Tet - but I did record it. That was really the turning point of the war from a US PR perspective IIRC......

Jeff_36 wrote:A few observations on parts 1-4 . . . 5. I maintain that there is nothing morally wrong with the US acting in a limited way to prevent the mass shootings, collectivization of agriculture, and mass deportations that would have (and did) accompany North Vietnamese rule over the whole country. However everyone in their right mind should have known that sending in hundreds of thousands of troops was doomed to ignominious failure, the warning signs were there from the beginning.

But not Pinochet, Trujillo, the Duvaliers, Stroessner, Diem, the Shah, Marcos, Suharto, the colonels in Greece, the House of Saud, Vorster or Botha in South Africa, Erdogan today . . . nary a peep about the dirty war conducted by the junta in Argentina with Kissinger's covert support for the murders . . . how odd? So many countries to set straight, so little time, a great shame.

And this doesn't really get at the problem: "everyone in their right mind should have known that sending in hundreds of thousands of troops was doomed to ignominious failure"; time and again, US misunderstanding and devaluing of Vietnamese nationalism and anti colonialism - "the US acting in a limited way" in the country, for example, having decided not to support the Vietnamese anti colonial movement after the war - drove the Vietnamese to harder and harder positions, and strengthened the hand of the hard liners in the Communist party and in the South (leaving aside the question of the legitimacy itself of the South). And set up what eventually came to feel like an inevitability.

And yet, one of my thoughts watching the documentary - I actually don't feel like debating this again - is sadness - sadness over the number of opportunities that were lost early on and the consequences of this - and how fundamentally, in the period after WWII, the US took a position that more or less ensured the litany of lost opportunities.

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
And yet, one of my thoughts watching the documentary - I actually don't feel like debating this again - is sadness - sadness over the number of opportunities that were lost early on and the consequences of this - and how fundamentally, in the period after WWII, the US took a position that more or less ensured the litany of lost opportunities.

On that I will concur 100%. They should never have saddled up with the French, and I think Ho should have been co-opted at the end of WWII. Doing so would have hopefully marginalized the likes of Le and Giap and produced a stable US ally. The fact that the US failed to respond to Ho's overtures irks me - I constantly wonder what could have been.

In 1939, some 22,000 members of the German-American Bund—a pro-Nazi group—flocked to a rally in Manhattan’s Madison Square Garden, ostensibly to celebrate George Washington’s birthday. Isadore Greenbaum, a twenty-six-year-old resident of Brooklyn, snuck in to hear what was being said. At some point during a speech by the Bund’s leader, Fritz Kuhn, Greenbaum became so incensed by the anti-Semitic rhetoric that he rushed the stage, yelling “Down with Hitler!” As Philip Bump recounts, he was swarmed and beaten by a group of uniformed thugs until rescued by the police, who promptly arrested him. Video footage can be seen here:

When the U.S. entered World War II, Greenbaum joined the Navy, in which he served for the duration of the conflict.

Statistical Mechanic wrote:Much as my wife and I have not liked anything by Ken Burns, we've decided to watch his 18-hour Vietnam documentary on PBS. For some of us here (ahem, the old folks), that war touches us in different but intensely personal ways.

I’ve started watching this. This is the opening song, one of my favorite Bob Dylan songs:

“They say..that in Slonim they gathered in the town square 14,000 people...and all were machine-gunned. I ask you, is it possible to believe such a thing?...How can the world remain silent? It is probably not true.”
Calel Perechodnik, Polish Jew, 1942

I gave up, actually. I really loathe Ken Burns. This made his whole Civil War thing - with its interminable Shelby Foote interviews and melodramatic voiceover - come crashing back. I should go back to it - I don't know if I will.

Statistical Mechanic wrote:I gave up, actually. I really loathe Ken Burns. This made his whole Civil War thing - with its interminable Shelby Foote interviews and melodramatic voiceover - come crashing back. I should go back to it - I don't know if I will.

I’m annoyed with the switching back and forth between time periods. If you are going to give me a background episode stay on target.

I’m not the biggest Bob Dylan fan, my dad was but what a song writer.

“They say..that in Slonim they gathered in the town square 14,000 people...and all were machine-gunned. I ask you, is it possible to believe such a thing?...How can the world remain silent? It is probably not true.”
Calel Perechodnik, Polish Jew, 1942

As Holocaust survivors leave us, we can be thankful that their testimony has been recorded in hours of interviews and in memoirs. But in 1953, one of the first primary sources the American public digested was not in the pages of Night, but on prime-time television: It was the story of 32-year-old Hanna Bloch-Kohner, the first non-celebrity to appear on Ralph Edwards’s This Is Your Life, the reality series that aired on NBC radio and television from 1948 to 1961.

Upon her deportation, she was pregnant, and to survive, had a secret abortion. She listens as he describes her separation from her brother Gottfried – who later steps from behind the curtain – and the death of her first husband in the gas chambers.

Throughout Edwards’s narration — which bends toward Allied liberation and the goldene medina of America — Bloch-Kohner alternates expressions: of delight at seeing loved ones, and of profound discomfort. She puts her hands to her cheeks, touches her hair, and hugs herself. Watching from 2016, you can’t help rooting for Bloch-Kohner to tell her own story. When Edwards comes to the moment when, at Auschwitz, she hears her brother is still alive, she interrupts him, as if needing to tell the rest herself. For that minute, her life finally feels like her own.

I read the book a couple of years ago, unfortunately I left the book in my car and my oldest son spilled something on it.

Quite amazing, if you get a chance I suggest watching it.

“They say..that in Slonim they gathered in the town square 14,000 people...and all were machine-gunned. I ask you, is it possible to believe such a thing?...How can the world remain silent? It is probably not true.”
Calel Perechodnik, Polish Jew, 1942

Watched a lot of this last night, at my wife's suggestion - I would say that the archival footage is quite interesting but at the same time the hokey evil/hate narration, the pop psychology "theory" of charisma, and graphics of doom spoiled it for me. It felt to me as though whoever put this together was afraid that if they didn't pepper the narration with lots of "hate" and "evil," the audience would misunderstand, so they hit on familiar - and Manichean - words and concepts very hard.

I was even arsed to see if they had historian-advisers - being sure that they did - and was surprised to find Laurence Rees writing and producing the thing as I think there's a strong mischaracterization of Hitler's appeal going on throughout.

Eventually I dozed off, as I often do trying to watch TV, especially late in the evening - it just lulls me to sleep. So after dozing on and off as the war unfolded, I forced myself, somewhere deep into Russia, to wake up for real - and read some more of Griffin's book, A Fascist Century. I'll go back to the documentary, for the contemporary images and sound, which are really good, when I can stay awake.

Watched a lot of this last night, at my wife's suggestion - I would say that the archival footage is quite interesting but at the same time the hokey evil/hate narration, the pop psychology "theory" of charisma, and graphics of doom spoiled it for me. It felt to me as though whoever put this together was afraid that if they didn't pepper the narration with lots of "hate" and "evil," the audience would misunderstand, so they hit on familiar - and Manichean - words and concepts very hard.

I’ll admit that Rees sometimes descends into overkill on the above. He did this with his Auschwitz documentary. He is a filmmaker and as such feels the need to hammer on certain points to make sure you get it. I’m not interested in dramatics, I want to learn and understand what was going on at the time.

I also understand that this was made for a mass audience so needed to keep their attention throughout. I agree the archival stuff is great so when I get a chance I’ll also continue watching. I find the film and pictures from the time period interesting. It’s also fascinating to watch Hitler speak, whatever else you can say about him he had a talent for theatrics.

“They say..that in Slonim they gathered in the town square 14,000 people...and all were machine-gunned. I ask you, is it possible to believe such a thing?...How can the world remain silent? It is probably not true.”
Calel Perechodnik, Polish Jew, 1942

Watching Hitler speak is really something - different time, different style expectations. The posed shots of him acting out his theatrics were so unlike contemporary sensibilities. My wife found that in the shots of Hitler he came across as coarsely ugly. Fascinating as it is to see the speeches, and rallies, the footage of ordinary life, street scenes, common people really struck me, too.

I just react badly to portrayals of the period that make out that the Nazis only pulled some kind of con or scam on behalf of something called Evil (or pathology or, in the Marxist formulation, Big Capital) and seduced Germans or fooled them. Sadly, Nazism in large part constituted a shared narrative . . . ok, climbing down off soap box now I will go back to vol I and then keep going. I just have to set aside the Manichean narrative - and stay awake!

Statistical Mechanic wrote:Watching Hitler speak is really something - different time, different style expectations. The posed shots of him acting out his theatrics were so unlike contemporary sensibilities. My wife found that in the shots of Hitler he came across as coarsely ugly. Fascinating as it is to see the speeches, and rallies, the footage of ordinary life, street scenes, common people really struck me, too. I will go back to vol I and then keep going. I just have to stay awake!

“They say..that in Slonim they gathered in the town square 14,000 people...and all were machine-gunned. I ask you, is it possible to believe such a thing?...How can the world remain silent? It is probably not true.”
Calel Perechodnik, Polish Jew, 1942

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
I just react badly to portrayals of the period that make out that the Nazis only pulled some kind of con or scam on behalf of something called Evil (or pathology or, in the Marxist formulation, Big Capital) and seduced Germans or fooled them

Yeah, that strikes me as too simple. It also annoys me when Hitler is reduced to a madman.....he wasn’t.

Trying to simplify something is a cop out, easier than delving into something.

“They say..that in Slonim they gathered in the town square 14,000 people...and all were machine-gunned. I ask you, is it possible to believe such a thing?...How can the world remain silent? It is probably not true.”
Calel Perechodnik, Polish Jew, 1942

Since we're talking genocides in here, and since probably most of the members know about my team's work of sending Golden Dawn's members to the Court for their involvement in the Srebrenica massacre, well, here's some updates from the Greek front against the Srebrenica deniers, if someone wants to take a look.

For the occasion of Mladic's conviction, I've unearthed a very rare video from 1995, from a Greek TV show, with a now deceased famous actor and pop-rock singer Vlassis Bonatsos, who was the son in law of the prominent Greek lawyer Alexandros Lykourezos, who said he was defending Mladic against the ICTY at the time, this lawyer (in English):

It was a very popular TV light pop show that was aired in Greek television for many years. The actor made a favor for his father in law, and decided to make a special show for Mladic and for raising money for the Serbian elites of the time. This is December 1995 and the Sarajevo siege was not over yet. The singer traveled to Bosnia and have a nice chat with Mladic, letting him say whatever nonsense he liked, like for example that the Pope ordered NATO to bomb Serbia, with no objection at all. Just compliments, kisses, hugs and laughter.
A very prominent Greek journalist, Pavlos Tsimas, was used at the time, to give the pop show a feeling of credibility, and Tsimas is seen saying multiple times 'what a hero is Mladic', and how much we have to give money to the show for the Serbian elites of the time.

The highlight of the video is on 10.00', at the end of the interview, when the singer asks Mladic for his star-sign! It was disgusting, and thank God I saved it back in 1995 in VHS form, from which I made it digital this week.

His star-sign!
That was the most important thing to know about Mladic!
What a beautiful question for the man who committed genocide just five months ago!
My team decided to publish this video just now, in order to show to my co-patriots what we were doing at the time in Greece, and I've posted online yesterday, the day of the conviction. Here's a one-minute clip with the highlights, in Greek, unfortunately:

You don't want to know the reactions. Of course, I am 'an agent of NATO and American imperialism' and I'm working for some dark agency or foreign Embassy or the Bilderberg Club or the Elders of Zion or something, I don't know.
People in Greece don't want to look at our past, when almost everyone believed that supporting the fascist and genocidal Serbian elites of the time was the right thing to do, kind of taking revenge on the Turks for what they did to us Greeks during 1821 Greek revolution.

Here is the article in Greek, of course, but maybe Google Translate with help. I think it was a great moment.

Statistical Mechanic wrote:Much as my wife and I have not liked anything by Ken Burns, we've decided to watch his 18-hour Vietnam documentary on PBS. For some of us here (ahem, the old folks), that war touches us in different but intensely personal ways.

I’ve started watching this. This is the opening song, one of my favorite Bob Dylan songs:

Continuing to watch this.

A few things:

1) The archival footage is really good.

2) The interviews are very powerful, from the Vietnamese to the Americans.

3) The soundtrack is also really good.

I don’t have an issue with Burns. It’s also rekindling my interest in the time period which I’m fighting off so I don’t get sidetracked and buried under more reading material.

“They say..that in Slonim they gathered in the town square 14,000 people...and all were machine-gunned. I ask you, is it possible to believe such a thing?...How can the world remain silent? It is probably not true.”
Calel Perechodnik, Polish Jew, 1942

My complaint is that no real time was paid to the background, from ancient Vietnam through the French Colonial Period. The filmmakers could have spent more time on it, maybe the first episode.

I also realize that this is centered on the American involvement so they didn’t have me in mind when they made it.

“They say..that in Slonim they gathered in the town square 14,000 people...and all were machine-gunned. I ask you, is it possible to believe such a thing?...How can the world remain silent? It is probably not true.”
Calel Perechodnik, Polish Jew, 1942

Jeffk 1970 wrote:My complaint is that no real time was paid to the background, from ancient Vietnam through the French Colonial Period. The filmmakers could have spent more time on it, maybe the first episode.

I also realize that this is centered on the American involvement so they didn’t have me in mind when they made it.

I haven't gone back to it. Neither my wife nor I can tolerate Burns . . . but we will at some point force ourselves to watch the rest of it.

Jeffk 1970 wrote:There is a four-part documentary on the Einsatzgruppen on Netflix I mean to watch. Problem is it's in French so I'll have to watch it with Subtitles. I loathe subtitles, I'd prefer it dubbed so I can actually watch the program instead of reading it.
Same problem with "Last of the Unjust."

Not bad. Worth suffering subtitles.... that said, there are some not too major problems.

I've watched a few opening minutes of the first one, I can see what you are talking about.

If you have it Prime Video has this translated. I’ve been watching it as I do things around the house, I think I’ll actually watch it again and give it my full attention.

My biggest complaint is that they flubbed the Wannsee Conference, going back to the version that this was about coordinating the Final Solution. This no longer holds water.

“They say..that in Slonim they gathered in the town square 14,000 people...and all were machine-gunned. I ask you, is it possible to believe such a thing?...How can the world remain silent? It is probably not true.”
Calel Perechodnik, Polish Jew, 1942

“They say..that in Slonim they gathered in the town square 14,000 people...and all were machine-gunned. I ask you, is it possible to believe such a thing?...How can the world remain silent? It is probably not true.”
Calel Perechodnik, Polish Jew, 1942

Jeffk 1970 wrote:My complaint is that no real time was paid to the background, from ancient Vietnam through the French Colonial Period. The filmmakers could have spent more time on it, maybe the first episode.

I also realize that this is centered on the American involvement so they didn’t have me in mind when they made it.

Finished this today. I liked it, great soundtrack.

The war was an enormous waste of lives.

“They say..that in Slonim they gathered in the town square 14,000 people...and all were machine-gunned. I ask you, is it possible to believe such a thing?...How can the world remain silent? It is probably not true.”
Calel Perechodnik, Polish Jew, 1942

Statistical Mechanic wrote:AHC (American Heroes Channel!) had a Rees "Auschwitz: Hitler's Final Solution" marathon tonight. My wife and I watched most of the series. Her idea, oddly.

What did you think?

“They say..that in Slonim they gathered in the town square 14,000 people...and all were machine-gunned. I ask you, is it possible to believe such a thing?...How can the world remain silent? It is probably not true.”
Calel Perechodnik, Polish Jew, 1942