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And Rob, to answer your question, I do understand certain points. It's not that I'm trying to play dumb. It's that there are points that I honestly think are not considered. You say Bush wanted seniors to have access to medication. I agree with that. My main point is that Obama and other Democrats also want people to have more medical access (medications, doctors, etc). Both of them got demonized for approachying reform their way, but they meant well. The Affordable Healthcare Act is not perfect. I do think congress people will continue to make reforms throughout the years. But honestly, I see this being like Medicare. Medicare was once demonized as socialist medicine. Now, people don't want it gone. I think the AHA will be the same way.

It's now mandatory to purchase what the gov't feels is the best insurance for us. First and foremost it's another attack on our freedoms. When the employer mandate kicks in, which was conveniently delayed until after the midterm elections, things will be even worse.
Unemployment and part time employment will grow.

Lanie I have a feeling you have not even looked at any of the insurance choices for next year otherwise you would have a better understanding of what is being discussed here.

Quit trying to compare President Bush and President Obama. Quit trying to compare Medicare and Obamacare. You are simply trying to be the perfect liberal and muddy the waters. Like I said before, you are very good at avoiding the apples to apples comparisons.

There are people that want Medicare and Social Security gone. I am one of them. Did you miss all the past discussions about the privatization of Social Security? Did you miss what Paul Ryan had to say during his run for Vice President? That is a separate topic. We are discussing Obamacare and the Obama administration.