By the way, I am not necessarily in agreement that the Pistons have no "go to" players on their roster. I think Ben Gordon, Daye and Stuckey can eventually all be that type of player. I also think Summers has that type of potential- if he ever learns to be a beast down low, like he should since he's so damn strong. We don't have a LeBron or Wade or Kobe or Dirk or Melo - but we might have 3 guys who, within the next 2 years, are all in the second rung of players, and that's been good enough for teams like the Celtics of 2 years ago (Pierce, Ray Allen), and the 2004 Pistons.

I think it's much more important that Daye and Stuckey and JJ etc. get paired up with monsters in the paint - that's where we don't have on our roster anyone who could remotely be that type of dominant defender or interior scorer. Until we find those players, we aren't much of a threat.

Dre, this season would have been good. We found JJ and we would get a top pick. Now, I fear it will have been a waste. What is the percentage chance for a top three pick?

I really wonder if management understands that the team is simply poor and that it wasn't injuries and the like as a reason.

I worry that the Pistons get a serviceable player only in the draft and go forward with a better year next year which could create an illusion that the team is truly on the way back. Many teams wallow between .500 and the near bottom and back again to .500.

I thought the Pistons had a different standard as one of only a few teams to have won multiple championships.

well maybe stern will pay the pistons back for screwing them will all the rule changes after their championship year. Pistons with wall in 2011 !

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There have been conspiracy theories about the lottery in the past (see Patrick Ewing to the Knicks in 1985), but now there are representatives from each lottery team in the room when they draw the ping pong balls.

There have been conspiracy theories about the lottery in the past (see Patrick Ewing to the Knicks in 1985), but now there are representatives from each lottery team in the room when they draw the ping pong balls.

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We should send some muscle in there to assure that everything is on the up and up or to influence the process.....how about Mason, Mahorn, Kwame and Big Ben with his fear the fro extended out.

There have been conspiracy theories about the lottery in the past (see Patrick Ewing to the Knicks in 1985), but now there are representatives from each lottery team in the room when they draw the ping pong balls.

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there IS NO FFFFFin WAYYYYYY that THE NETS with all that NEWWW $$$$$ will not ONLY sign LEBRON JAMES But WILL GET JOHN WALL with the number one pick!

there IS NO FFFFFin WAYYYYYY that THE NETS with all that NEWWW $$$$$ will not ONLY sign LEBRON JAMES But WILL GET JOHN WALL with the number one pick!

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The Nets not only have JZ, but they are now owned by the Russian mafia.

On a side note, I now hate CV. In the few games I saw this year, he's lounging around on D, jacking up bad shots on O, basically the laziest player I've seen in a long long time. End of the season, when we need to tank, he decides to make a point and actually bust his butt.

IMHO, he tried to sabotage the tanking so he wouldn't have to compete with a top draft pick next year.