In this episode, Tim Palmer speaks to Radio National Breakfast host Fran Kelly, former Howard government minister Peter Reith, former Network 10 news and current affairs chief Jim Carroll, author of Angels of Vengeance John Birmingham and ATSI Social Justice Commissioner Mick Gooda.

Beyond Blue chairman Jeff Kennett denies there is any link between his comments on what makes a healthy family environment for children and the resignation of the national depression initiative's chief executive.

While I feel a certain amount of sympathy for women who want to have children and can't, this is only because I appreciate that badly wanting something you can't have is one of the most effective ways to ensure deep unhappiness on a daily basis.