FBI: Man attempted to bomb bank, trying to set off US civil war

"The FBI, ending a sting, says it has arrested a California man after he tried to set off what he thought was a car bomb at a bank in Oakland.

Matthew Aaron Llaneza, 28, of San Jose, was arrested Friday morning, capping a months-long undercover investigation, the Justice Department said. Agents say he met last November with someone he thought was connected with the Taliban but who was actually an FBI agent.

Prosecutors say Llaneza proposed car-bombing a bank in the San Francisco Bay Area.

"Llaneza's stated goal was to trigger a governmental crackdown, which he expected would trigger a right-wing counter-response against the government followed by, he hoped, civil war," the Justice Department says."

i will assume that the fbi stopped this guy because it is too early for a civil war? white americans still have guns, why do i say "white americans"? because it occurs to me that the only people the obama administration is trying to disarm are those who have guns LEGALLY. the illegal weapons in the inner-cities are never mentioned even though illegal guns are responsible for 99.9% of the killings across this nation. why is that?

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it worries me that the move is on to take guns and now anyone who supports gun ownership is called a kook or fringe and yet those in the inner cities who own guns are the coooool guys...

Quoting: davvi

For me, I don't worry at all, davvi. Even if I had a gun of my own, I still worry about any sort of label or labels for simply being myself. It takes alot of courage and strength to be noone but yourself entirely, especially in this extremely toxic day and Age. If I am to be considered a kook, fringe, or something else negative for wanting a gun for my protection and the protection I love and care for and about, what the fuck ever! Those who are hell bent on labelling me for that sure as hell don't deserve MY friendship. They all can go fuck themselves and quite literally at that, davvi. Be strong and proud of who and what you are, davvi. The same goes for everyone else as well.

"The FBI, ending a sting, says it has arrested a California man after he tried to set off what he thought was a car bomb at a bank in Oakland.

Matthew Aaron Llaneza, 28, of San Jose, was arrested Friday morning, capping a months-long undercover investigation, the Justice Department said. Agents say he met last November with someone he thought was connected with the Taliban but who was actually an FBI agent.

Prosecutors say Llaneza proposed car-bombing a bank in the San Francisco Bay Area.

"Llaneza's stated goal was to trigger a governmental crackdown, which he expected would trigger a right-wing counter-response against the government followed by, he hoped, civil war," the Justice Department says."

i will assume that the fbi stopped this guy because it is too early for a civil war? white americans still have guns, why do i say "white americans"? because it occurs to me that the only people the obama administration is trying to disarm are those who have guns LEGALLY. the illegal weapons in the inner-cities are never mentioned even though illegal guns are responsible for 99.9% of the killings across this nation. why is that?

it worries me that the move is on to take guns and now anyone who supports gun ownership is called a kook or fringe and yet those in the inner cities who own guns are the coooool guys...

Quoting: davvi

For me, I don't worry at all, davvi. Even if I had a gun of my own, I still worry about any sort of label or labels for simply being myself. It takes alot of courage and strength to be noone but yourself entirely, especially in this extremely toxic day and Age. If I am to be considered a kook, fringe, or something else negative for wanting a gun for my protection and the protection I love and care for and about, what the fuck ever! Those who are hell bent on labelling me for that sure as hell don't deserve MY friendship. They all can go fuck themselves and quite literally at that, davvi. Be strong and proud of who and what you are, davvi. The same goes for everyone else as well.

Quoting: darkwolf007

post and i agree, we need more "individuals" with courage to face the popular culture of collectivism and sheepism.

thank you.

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"The FBI, ending a sting, says it has arrested a California man after he tried to set off what he thought was a car bomb at a bank in Oakland.

Matthew Aaron Llaneza, 28, of San Jose, was arrested Friday morning, capping a months-long undercover investigation, the Justice Department said. Agents say he met last November with someone he thought was connected with the Taliban but who was actually an FBI agent.

Prosecutors say Llaneza proposed car-bombing a bank in the San Francisco Bay Area.

"Llaneza's stated goal was to trigger a governmental crackdown, which he expected would trigger a right-wing counter-response against the government followed by, he hoped, civil war," the Justice Department says."

i will assume that the fbi stopped this guy because it is too early for a civil war? white americans still have guns, why do i say "white americans"? because it occurs to me that the only people the obama administration is trying to disarm are those who have guns LEGALLY. the illegal weapons in the inner-cities are never mentioned even though illegal guns are responsible for 99.9% of the killings across this nation. why is that?

There are certainly a lot of stories out there lately about people thinking they are in contact with "someone bad", while it actually is a FBI agent.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884

'Someone bad' is right but not that what they wanted. :)

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1257174

Totally an FBI agent, with a fake bomb...

ANY above medium IQ human wanting to blow up a bank, gov. bulding, a mall, etc., CANNOT be caught, unless he is a drug addict or alcohoolic person, talking to much.

Quoting: recollector

i agree with both of these ^^^

Quoting: davvi

And when has one of these "cells", "groups", or "troubled individuals" NOT been "taken down" that didn't entail some government provocateur involved "at the deepest level".

Spin this, turn this, and promote this any way they'd like - it still boils down to reading the writing on the wall that's been evident for the last 20 or so years as to who the provocateurs are, as well as who is actually pushing to set ANYTHING off.

Are there actual loose cannons that may pose a threat to certain establishments, organizations, groups of even individuals? Sure there are. In a country of ~330,000,000 people, there are bound to be those in existence - and it is up to and the responsibility of each and every citizen to root these people and groups out through a maintained vigilance in protection and continuance of their own safety and security.

Does it not strike anyone else as odd that ZERO of these related events have actually matured through fruition on their own? That ZERO such acts have actually been committed by some loner or fringe group that had no government involvement? Are we to believe the government is so very efficient that they have infiltrated absolutely every single element?

Hogwash - never ever forget how they pushed Randy Weaver, who ultimately lost his family and time of his freedom - all for an extra half-inch of a shotgun barrel at the behest of one these lowlife provocateurs.

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Be single, fearless, have some role-playing skills and a great sense of humor. You can protect yourself, learn volumes about this phenomena and get to experience all the action and intrigue of an A-list movie star. You will very likely get beat up, go half crazy and lose most of your friends until you learn to identify their tactics, see how lead-up events work to desensitize you and then use their own informants against them.

Develop your peripheral vision, learn walking meditation and control your reactions to stimuli. If you can do this, there's really nothing you can't accomplish when it comes to fighting their influence through peaceful methods. When they want you to react you have to absolutely convince them that you're going to do what you have always done and follow their plan while introducing subtle inconsistencies that make them move so you can view their operational deficiencies. Put off any agreements for action and interject your own ever-changing list of criteria to get the feedback you need; this will frustrate them.

Their creative abilities are limited especially the lower down the food chain you go and they will send more experienced agents with bigger egos who are bound to blow their cover because of their prideful ways. You need to insult these higher agents immediately (acting off balance) and then throw them a bone so they continue to target you at their own peril; which they will, trust me. Repeat as necessary, you will probably end up getting beat up, going half crazy and losing more friends but what is the alternative.

It's very important to create allies and useful antagonists at all the locations you intend to work out of; those you can wink at to come closer or intervene on your behalf, quickly piss off or role-play with to draw attention or spread a harmless rumor about the perceived agents to generate a few hard stares in their general direction. If you know they're trying to entrap you and it gets too hot by all means get the media involved, talk with friends in law enforcement and seek safety in numbers or with family members.

"The FBI, ending a sting, says it has arrested a California man after he tried to set off what he thought was a car bomb at a bank in Oakland.

Matthew Aaron Llaneza, 28, of San Jose, was arrested Friday morning, capping a months-long undercover investigation, the Justice Department said. Agents say he met last November with someone he thought was connected with the Taliban but who was actually an FBI agent.

Prosecutors say Llaneza proposed car-bombing a bank in the San Francisco Bay Area.

"Llaneza's stated goal was to trigger a governmental crackdown, which he expected would trigger a right-wing counter-response against the government followed by, he hoped, civil war," the Justice Department says."

i will assume that the fbi stopped this guy because it is too early for a civil war? white americans still have guns, why do i say "white americans"? because it occurs to me that the only people the obama administration is trying to disarm are those who have guns LEGALLY. the illegal weapons in the inner-cities are never mentioned even though illegal guns are responsible for 99.9% of the killings across this nation. why is that?

And if you refeer as '' muzz '' to a MUSLIM ? Well, there you have it, that show you've NO respect for other cultures(wonder why..)And the left//right thing its more than bs... even the middle (fingah for all of them )

So if you still wanna defend your bankstaz pals - okey, but ..

But many wont be happy when they awake to the truth

peace yo and no, IM NOT RELIGIOUS AT ALL, because I know its a slave-manipulation, BUTYOU OP, REALLY NEED TO GROW UP IN T.E.H. B.R.I.A.N.

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There are certainly a lot of stories out there lately about people thinking they are in contact with "someone bad", while it actually is a FBI agent.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884

That is what I was thinking. All these supposed cases of terrorism are all created by the government. To further justify the need for a crack down. In all reality, these supposed terrorist would not even have the means, and possibly the idea to commit the acts but for the government.I had a case a year ago where my guy was charged with possessing a machine gun. Truth of the matter is it was ATF s gun, and ATF sold it to him. The guy did not even know he wanted a machine gun until it was offered by the ATF.

"You can only protect your liberties in this world by protecting the other man's freedom" Clarence Darrow

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There are certainly a lot of stories out there lately about people thinking they are in contact with "someone bad", while it actually is a FBI agent.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884

That is what I was thinking. All these supposed cases of terrorism are all created by the government. To further justify the need for a crack down. In all reality, these supposed terrorist would not even have the means, and possibly the idea to commit the acts but for the government.I had a case a year ago where my guy was charged with possessing a machine gun. Truth of the matter is it was ATF s gun, and ATF sold it to him. The guy did not even know he wanted a machine gun until it was offered by the ATF.

Quoting: Shellbe

^^ This ^^ i have no idea when what the LEOs do can be considered entrapment?

does one insist that an alcholic have a drink? and if one does aren't they an called an "enabler?" then why is the fbi not cast as an enabler?

"Hillary is in a race between the White House and the Big House." -- Daniel Greenfield

"Blacks can get into medical school with a lower grade. If that's true, a Jew should be able to play basketball with a lower net." --Jackie Mason

"Women should look good. Work on yourselves. Education? I spit on education. No man is ever going to put his hand up your dress looking for a library card." -- Joan Rivers

"The FBI, ending a sting, says it has arrested a California man after he tried to set off what he thought was a car bomb at a bank in Oakland.

Matthew Aaron Llaneza, 28, of San Jose, was arrested Friday morning, capping a months-long undercover investigation, the Justice Department said. Agents say he met last November with someone he thought was connected with the Taliban but who was actually an FBI agent.

Prosecutors say Llaneza proposed car-bombing a bank in the San Francisco Bay Area.

"Llaneza's stated goal was to trigger a governmental crackdown, which he expected would trigger a right-wing counter-response against the government followed by, he hoped, civil war," the Justice Department says."

There are certainly a lot of stories out there lately about people thinking they are in contact with "someone bad", while it actually is a FBI agent.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884

That is what I was thinking. All these supposed cases of terrorism are all created by the government. To further justify the need for a crack down. In all reality, these supposed terrorist would not even have the means, and possibly the idea to commit the acts but for the government.I had a case a year ago where my guy was charged with possessing a machine gun. Truth of the matter is it was ATF s gun, and ATF sold it to him. The guy did not even know he wanted a machine gun until it was offered by the ATF.

The road to civil unrest lies with a racial motivated crime and the government knows this.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15292827

yes and is one of the reasons that our media refuses to report black on white crime in the same hysterical way they report the rare white on black crime.

those who they "allow" to keep illegal weapons are marching in the streets because of "injustice" as defined by the government and the rest of us are fighting weapon confiscation.

elevate one group while supressing the other leads to resentment and eventually violence.

oh and i might also point out white liberals who enable this kind of stuff too and the republicans who are too frightened to defend their own people.

Quoting: davvi

Davvi, I have to believe so much of what you're referring to stems directly from the White Guilt that has been force-fed to the American populous since the late 60s.

There simply exists no other reasonable explanation, and while it is the root of many problems and surviving/ continued and even newly-fostered racial tensions - it is no less appalling, and each and every one of these broadcasters, "newscasters", actors, writers, publishers, producers, politicians and any other commonly utilized mouthpieces are complicit in every racially motivated crime within the last few decades.

Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.