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I agree with Denime - I've seen malicious and this was far from that. It may have been a bit aggressive - but that's it.

I don't think he went in to injure. But there is no need to have elbows in Macho Man Randy Savage position going up for a header. It's not dissimilar to a studs up tackle. Not every studs up tackle is an intent to injure but the risk of significant injury is such that we categorically disallow it. Leading with your elbow is in the same boat.

Players from an early age are thought when going for the header jump with arm up and elbows wide to get more strength and accuracy on the ball,and for their own protection too.

Was Ibra going to break his cheekbone,no,was he going with his elbows wide,yes, it's not his fault other guy is foot shorter them him,it is professional sport shit like this happens and will happen again,otherwise we all should play E-sports and stay safe in front of our screens.

I’m all for a bit of rough and trouble action in professional sports but this is a bit much. It adds nothing to the game. The idea these guys are somehow not in control of their bodies and the elbows are just always going to happen laughable. This is all about the way we’ve decided to officiate the game and how players feel they need to respond.

It’s the same as tackling from behind. Some people said the angles made it too difficult to clean up. And now... you see it far less than you used to because it’s punished, imagine that.

This just makes me sad. We need strong teams to have good rivalries and push the game forward in this country.

At this rate the Vancouver is going to be an afterthought or moved to another market, rewarding an ownership group with a big payday that has never tried and has acted completely unethically along the way. Shame.

I think if anything there will be pressure put on that current ownership to move on from Lenarduzzi and finally modernise the team. The rest of that article seems based on the "MLS is all a PONZI scheme!" viewpoint. TSN is interested in 3 MLS teams. They are not going anywhere.

^ Unfortunately there is very little strategic importance to that market for the league as a whole compared to the broader set of opportunities that are out there. Bit of hyperbole for me to suggest they'd be moving at this rate but I don’t think people internalize how small of a market we are as a country compared to the US.

Letting that team go could easily be an afterthought. I wouldn’t necessarily bet on it happening, but it’s not crazy talk to suggest they could do it.

Unless Supreme Leader Maldonaldo Garbero is also laundering his money through BC casinos and real estate, an American league with precedents for moving teams isnít going to care much about a Canadian team in either Vancouver or Montreal, especially if the ownership group is incompetent and/or worse.

Unless Supreme Leader Maldonaldo Garbero is also laundering his money through BC casinos and real estate, an American league with precedents for moving teams isn’t going to care much about a Canadian team in either Vancouver or Montreal, especially if the ownership group is incompetent and/or worse.

Hold on. How would the Whitecaps be moved since they were their own entity playing in the NASL(USL? I dont remember).

Something kinda interesting here from the weekly MLS editorial review... TFC is 5th in the league in possession, but 1st in passing accuracy by nearly 2 full percentage points, 1st in total passes played, and the highest average number of passes before a loss of possession by a fair distance.

Compared to what I've been seeing on the pitch, I think this aligns with our tendency this season to be pretty secure in possession, but run out of ideas and pass it back and forth from one side to the other around the opponent's final third. Hasn't helped missing our DPs for long stretches, which I'm sure has contributed, but I think the stats - given these numbers yet we're maybe just a bit better than league average in terms of goal scoring - bear out that we should be looking to play direct or take additional risks in the final third a bit more often.

Something kinda interesting here from the weekly MLS editorial review... TFC is 5th in the league in possession, but 1st in passing accuracy by nearly 2 full percentage points, 1st in total passes played, and the highest average number of passes before a loss of possession by a fair distance.

Compared to what I've been seeing on the pitch, I think this aligns with our tendency this season to be pretty secure in possession, but run out of ideas and pass it back and forth from one side to the other around the opponent's final third. Hasn't helped missing our DPs for long stretches, which I'm sure has contributed, but I think the stats - given these numbers yet we're maybe just a bit better than league average in terms of goal scoring - bear out that we should be looking to play direct or take additional risks in the final third a bit more often.

I don't think I've ever cared more about a football club shitshow than with the Whitecaps. Bob Lenarduzzi (and a whole lot of the Whitecaps ownership and management imo) is a joke. Vancouver, BC, Western Canada, the national teams (especially the Women) have been treated like shit (probably worse than that actually). You know what it's chill if you want to be a budget MLS team - hell even a budget MLS team that loses - but don't run a budget MLS team that fucks almost (they have to be doing something right, right?) everything up.

Something kinda interesting here from the weekly MLS editorial review... TFC is 5th in the league in possession, but 1st in passing accuracy by nearly 2 full percentage points, 1st in total passes played, and the highest average number of passes before a loss of possession by a fair distance.

Compared to what I've been seeing on the pitch, I think this aligns with our tendency this season to be pretty secure in possession, but run out of ideas and pass it back and forth from one side to the other around the opponent's final third. Hasn't helped missing our DPs for long stretches, which I'm sure has contributed, but I think the stats - given these numbers yet we're maybe just a bit better than league average in terms of goal scoring - bear out that we should be looking to play direct or take additional risks in the final third a bit more often.

Another way of seeing it is that, given our terrible +/-, we give up goals at an alarming rate for the amount of possession our opponents have.

We have the 5th best possession, and 9th in goals for / game (within 0.05 of 4th).

They are 100-150 k MLS 2.0 players. Nothing wrong with that and they are some good depth. MLS is really taking a big leap forward with TAM and Toronto is a middle pack team.

The average starting salary for TFC starting 11 is around 2 million (DP factor) the mean if I had to guess is around 750 k. (I donít know the exact salary of Osorio, Gallardo, Omar or Benezet) but in that 700 k range

The top 18 avg salary has to be around around 900k-1 million and the median around 525 k. Donít know all the exact numbers but this is probably in the ball park

and by the way if there was any better indication that Fraser, Akinola, Zavaletta, Morgan and Chapman needed minutes at ANY level, it's how thoroughly they were outplayed by a mid to bottom tier League One side.

and by the way if there was any better indication that Fraser, Akinola, Zavaletta, Morgan and Chapman needed minutes at ANY level, it's how thoroughly they were outplayed by a mid to bottom tier League One side.

Fraser I understand. Giving the rest of them minutes at expense of our future players is silly and short sighted.