HEVC Decoding preferred video card for HTPC: 1050 vs Ti ??

Was wondering if what you guys recommend for an HTPC for playing back x265 MVK files on PowerDVD 16 or Windows Movie Player? I read you need a pascal card to get hardware support. Right now I got a 720GT in there but don't want to loose out of video fidelity and smooth play back. Is the 1050 Ti better than the 1050? Or just the same?

If it's just for decoding, QuickSync from Intel is better than Nvidia's CUVID, as CUVID doesn't output 10bit, but AFAIK QuickSync does. So you'll have to resort to DXVA. DXVA works with all GPUs, so you have a lot of choices there.

In my opinion, get the most performance for the budget you can. You can always use the extra performance for better experience. For playback I recommend MediaPlayerDOTNet and its extensions. For decoding LAV Filters. If you want to have your mind blown, try out Smooth Video Playback as well.

according to wiki the 460 supports vp9 decoding but only a few devices support encoding vp9. so if hes only playing back media its just fine, other than yes a bit more power usage. but that doesn't matter to everyone and op specified 1050vsTi(edit and HEVC) so 1050 I say.

according to wiki the 460 supports vp9 decoding but only a few devices support encoding vp9. so if hes only playing back media its just fine, other than yes a bit more power usage. but that doesn't matter to everyone and op specified 1050vsTi(edit and HEVC) so 1050 I say.

dude wtf?! youre just jumping from one thing to the next to continue arguing and "prove" your point. I am clearly stating and addressing each thing and then you grab onto something else. lets break it down;

cagey suggested r460 as an alternative to the 1050 (how dare someone mention amd in a nv post?! )
you started in about the vp9 "issue" on the 460 and power draw
I post that wiki states 460 supports vp9 decode but not encode and that its beside the point when op asked about 1050/ti + hevc
then you bring up the "more important" vp9_10, do some ninja editing to your post(add edit notation ffs) to try and disprove anything that doesn't align with your thoughts but then say "Bristol Ridge is also wrong I guess. No idea what is right and wrong from the ARM pool. But I bet there is a few wrongs there too and some with half assed support" which is speculation.
then I again clearly state that I am addressing the original topic and the 460 was simply suggested
you say but "Op didn't ask about the RX460", google, Netflix, vp9/_10, 4K and AV1 blah blah blaah
I just fucking said that! suggested and then you start steering in another direction again by bring up, Netflix, 4k and AV1.

WTF man?! just knock it off. what makes it even more ridiculous is that we are agreeing that the 1050 is what he needs. just stop, I am.

according to wiki the 460 supports vp9 decoding but only a few devices support encoding vp9. so if hes only playing back media its just fine, other than yes a bit more power usage. but that doesn't matter to everyone and op specified 1050vsTi(edit and HEVC) so 1050 I say.

In the first video the guy is playing back 4K HDR content. Why is that guy hating on me for suggesting slim and passively cooled HTPC cards? I was just giving the OP suggestions. Sometimes people ask questions and I like to find more information for them. I think it's neat to at least find out everything that you can about a subject before purchasing hardware. If I posted something wrong then I apologize.

As far as I know the latest driver included VP9 decoding for Polaris based cards. I don't know how proper decoding it is but the VP9 and HEVC decoding works great on Pascal based GPUs. Pick GTX 1050 Ti only if you for some reason need the extra VRAM (dunno if MadVR would benefit from more, but if you don't like to tinker with stuff just get the GTX 1050).

As far as I know the latest driver included VP9 decoding for Polaris based cards. I don't know how proper decoding it is but the VP9 and HEVC decoding works great on Pascal based GPUs. Pick GTX 1050 Ti only if you for some reason need the extra VRAM (dunno if MadVR would benefit from more, but if you don't like to tinker with stuff just get the GTX 1050).

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Its only for RX470/RX480 and done via OpenCL hybrid decoding and on top its only for 8bit, not 10bit. Its not exactly efficient to put it mildly and it requires a hack to enable it. So its not on as default. RX460 is too weak to do it from the looks of it.

Was wondering if what you guys recommend for an HTPC for playing back x265 MVK files on PowerDVD 16 or Windows Movie Player? I read you need a pascal card to get hardware support. Right now I got a 720GT in there but don't want to loose out of video fidelity and smooth play back. Is the 1050 Ti better than the 1050? Or just the same?

Thanks

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Dude, you hardly need shit to playback hevc and really only need cpu. And second you don't use powerdvd or wmp, you use mediaplayer classic. Go download hmm, like the k-lite codec mega pack, it will come bundled with some great tools like mediainfo and of course mediaplayer classic. By default it will run everything off cpu, until you decide to go hardware. Most any halfway decent cpu can handle 4k decode, its not hard and you DO NOT SPECIFICALLY NEED a Pascal card. You can use one, I use one, but its not mandatory. You could decode everything in cpu and not even give a damn. But encoding is a whole other matter for another thread.

my system plays back hvec just fine, even 10bit files and upscaled to 1440p. so am I lying or wrong because my system can do it? like TSM just said, MCE + k-lite and it plays it just fine. yeah maybe not a efficiently as an nv/intel combo but not everyone cares about that and when you really break it down it might be a couple bucks a year. and yes before you feel the need to say it, a bit more heat.

Thanks for the colorful examples and options given. Would have replied back sooner but wasn't subscribed to my own thread for some reason. Since then anyhow I've discovered 10 bit x265 encoding in handbrake. Understand 10 bit files have better color depth, less artifacts, similar file size and don't take much longer to encode. Have yet to test playback in PowerDvd and Windows Movie Player of 10 bit files but shouldnt be a problem for Plex. Anyhow siding on getting a 1050ti and looking to future proof. Still got a lot to learn.

Thanks for the colorful examples and options given. Would have replied back sooner but wasn't subscribed to my own thread for some reason. Since then anyhow I've discovered 10 bit x265 encoding in handbrake. Understand 10 bit files have better color depth, less artifacts, similar file size and don't take much longer to encode. Have yet to test playback in PowerDvd and Windows Movie Player of 10 bit files but shouldnt be a problem for Plex. Anyhow siding on getting a 1050ti and looking to future proof. Still got a lot to learn.

Thanks.

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10bit is better, better compression, less banding but the downside is that it has terrible support for mobile devices. And using sw decode drains the batt. I use 10bit for my 4k encodes but not 1080p as I like to watch those on my tablets.

I mostly care about playback on my HTPC so battery and mobile not a concern. Good to know though if I ever do move them on my ipad or something. Wonder though if playback on ipad through Plex would affect battery since Plex server is doing the decoding..

Feature Set E
Similar to feature set D but added support for decoding H.264 with a resolution of up to 4096 × 4096 and MPEG-1/MPEG-2 with a resolution of up to 4080 × 4080 pixels. GPUs with VDPAU feature set E support an enhanced error concealment mode which provides more robust error handling when decoding corrupted video streams. Cards with this feature set use a combination of the PureVideo hardware and software running on the shader array to decode HEVC (H.265) as partial/hybrid hardware video decoding.GeForce GTX 745, GTX 750, GTX 750 Ti, GTX 850M, GTX 860M,GeForce 830M, 840M,GeForce GTX 970, GTX 980, GTX 970M, GTX 980M,GeForce GTX TITAN X, GeForce GTX 980 Ti

If you are planning to run Windows 10 then the GTX 1050 will work perfectly fine for 4k 10-bit HEVC content. Otherwise there is no proper Linux support for 4k 10-bit HEVC hardware acceleration for NVIDIA GPU's currently and it may not happen for a long time.

It only makes sense when you're making the source like recording a video, you want to capture as much fidelity as possible. The source is called the master. Then from there you work your way down. When you playback a 10bit video, it gets dithered down to 8bit anyways because 99% of the time the video gets displayed to a 8bit panel.