Democrats, of course, care about the opposite; they’re willing to supply cheap labor to business even if it depresses wages for U.S. citizens in the expectation that they’ll net millions more Latino votes a decade or so from now.

That expectation is rock-solid. The relevant immigrants come from a country where both major parties are officially socialist, and where the media is on the same page.

Also, these immigrants are Mestizo, which means they are likely to be anti-white / anti-gringo on day one; and the Democratic Party is the anti-white racial spoils party, the party that rips off whites to give to non-whites, via affirmative action and in every other way. Which way are a majority of the new brown masses going to vote? Duh!

That may not be polite to talk about, but “the browning of America” is the Democratic strategy, and it works.

On the off chance you do not understand the problems of unlimited illegal/legal immigration read “Apache” by Will Levinton Comfort.

On the chance you do want to live in a country run by communist some what like the current Democrat Party I suggest China.

Or just try Hong Kong.

Notwithstanding we live here by the rule of law and the current quotas have been set by our elected Goverment from 1924 to now.

As you say your an immigrant and felt discrimanation for that and your still alive you must not have been born before 1924 thus you knew the quotas as or before you came.

Your choice. Now if you get enough members of the Congress , House and Senate and get a law signed that is not over turned by the courts you will have something done which is the rule of law.

Notwithstanding all of that, those who broke the law unless the new law hands out pardons for the law breakers then that to is the law.

I know this brave new world of the commie Democrat thug Party hates to be reminded of the Constitution, the Rule of Law and all that old white men stuff, but you see we Apache came to the understanding after 300 years of war over our lands that we were defeated.

As of now those of U.S. who have our on opinions on this and so far have the law/laws on the books, that is how the thing works up to now.

If you like to you can learn Spanish and go on some La Raza blogs that operate in Mexico and tell them how mean and out of touch the Mexican immigrations laws are, that would seem to be your highest and best use. Seeing as how they are much more in need of lectures.

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Sat, 09 Feb 2013 23:46:00 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=243557#comment-6711793Racism is perhaps too strong a term but it is Nativism. There is a pervasive belief by 3rd 5th or 10th generation Americans that they should be able to close the door behind them to prevent others from challenging their positions. As an Immigrant from Italy I experienced this discrimination even from other 2nd or 3rd generation Italians.
The Labor protectionism espoused by some commentators is disconcerting. Perhaps they should vote Democrat, join a Union and picket to keep those alien scabs away from your jobs. But if you believe in free markets the solution to illegal immigration is obvious. Make legal immigration less of a burden by shortening the time it takes to be admitted once you have been approved for entry.
In case some of you don’t know once you have an approved petition for entry into the US as a legal permanent resident you have to wait about ten years because of the quota system. Congress permits only 1.1MM per year to enter the country as legal permanent resident aliens. This quota is essentially unchanged from 1924. In 1924 US had a population of 100MM now we have three times as much yet the racist/nativist quota is the same. In the face of such an unrealistically low quota restriction is there any doubt that a black market in labor i.e. illegal immigration would develop that would seek the easiest path. The solution to illegal entries over the Mexican border is not more fences or millions of border guards but a rational system of legal immigration that eliminates the quota altogether. Once a petition for legal entry is approved there should be no wait. It is no coincidence that we have 11-12mm illegals and we have 11-12 million approved legal entries into the US waiting tens years for the 1.1 million quota.

Is admitting 11 million into the US at once too much? Probably not since most are already here. But even if they weren’t during the great European migrations of the 19th century immigrants increased the US population by more than 10% a year. An increase of 3% per year in the population can be easily absorbed.

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Sat, 09 Feb 2013 20:57:38 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=243557#comment-6711604none of these purported comprehensive reforms will work unless someone addresses the ten year issue. why talk about where you are on the line when the problem is the length of the line. Is there any good reason that the line has to be ten years long. Which is it Government inefficiency or racism?
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Sat, 09 Feb 2013 18:18:04 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=243557#comment-6711359

Yes, but could they wait someplace else?

Another Drew on February 9, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Yes, many of them, why not? Especially those sending back their winnings – they have a home to go to, don’t they?

Why is it up to us to defend our selves against lawbreakers, by giving some perfect solution that will solve every issue?

1. we don’t want to make the problem worse
2. anything we do to lessen the issue is worth doing
3. enforcing the current law all that is necessary to deal with the emergency (if it really is worse than the fiscal problem we are ignoring).

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Sat, 09 Feb 2013 11:11:08 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=243557#comment-6710891This is what it’s about. A lot of these people don’t want to stay here permanently. They WANT to go back to Mexico and love their own country, however theres no jobs. They make money here and send it home to Mexico.

don’t care about becoming citizens, he claims, they care about jobs. Democrats, of course, care about the opposite; they’re willing to supply cheap labor to business even if it depresses wages for U.S. citizens in the expectation that they’ll net millions more Latino votes a decade or so from now.

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Sat, 09 Feb 2013 07:26:07 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=243557#comment-6710839I’m all game with giving them a work visa and a path at some point in time to citizenship, if they go to the back of the line of the people who went proper. But who cares?

It’s a trap anyway, since Dems simply won’t enforce any laws they don’t like. No point in negotiating with people you damn sure know are in bad faith.

These same illegals go to the hospital when they are sick because by law hospitals can’t turn them away. Do you think they ever pay their bill?

Yes, they do.

unclesmrgol on February 8, 2013 at 11:20 PM

Who cares? We have to get over this notion that Americans owe anything to non-citizens just because they happen to be on our soil, legally or otherwise. We’ll only survive as a nation of “sovereignty” is more than a pretty word.

I have no love for illegals or mass immigration from any country that is likely to change our country’s culture. I’d prefer that they all left but that’s not very likely. Is it?

Charlemagne on February 8, 2013 at 5:46 PM

It doesn’t matter in the end. We owe non-citizens nothing. Ever. Aliens (defined as any non-citizen or ex-patriate) are here at our pleasure, and can be denied services or asked to leave at any time and for any reason. I reject the premise that we have any kind of obligation at all to those who will not follow the most basic laws central to our very national sovereignty.

Or if they decide to remain in the United States, they will do so under the equivalent of a non-immigrant work permit by paying a substantial fine and back taxes. If they choose the non-immigrant work visa, they will not qualify for any federal benefits, including ObamaCare.

You should understand this will create a permanent underclass. They cannot be denied basic care and services that are given to the poor. You cannot segment a part of the population and state your gihts are not as great as the rights of of ther residents. As such they will remain. This is the reward, and a generous one at that. They can stay here and avail themselves of goverment services. They may not get obamacare, but they wil still get free medical care.
There are two things in concert that can really reduce illegal immigration ad force those here to go home. 1. Federal felony convictions and real jail time for those that hire illegals. 2. e-verify.

I’d rather we focus on putting American citizens to work before we worry about making sure Mexico’s citizens can get work here.

xblade on February 8, 2013 at 6:51 PM

Me too. But wouldn’t you love to hear instead, all things being equal:

“We know that most people in the country illegally are Mexican nationals desperate for work. We won’t be talking about special dispensations for citizenship here today, but about the actual problem. All we have to say about citizenship is that a path out of the current tangle is provided to allow Mexicans in the United States illegally to re-enter the normal path to citizenship as they extricate themselves from their illegal behavior. Now, on to the actual topic: how to handle the refuges from the failing Mexican economy. Who can work here? How are they documented? What is the process? And when we’re finished today, providing this framework, we will be clear that any Mexican nationals in the United States outside of regular immigration policy, and outside of this new regular framework, will be removed. Our territorial sovereignty will be protected again, as of now.”

Illegals don’t want to be citizens, they want to work.. I’d rather they did it legally and in a controlled fashion than illegally. There would be a whole lot fewer here if they could move freely because they wouldn’t stay permanently, wouldn’t bring in family, and wouldn’t have children here.

I have no love for illegals or mass immigration from any country that is likely to change our country’s culture. I’d prefer that they all left but that’s not very likely. Is it?

Charlemagne on February 8, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Recasting this would change the game permanently. It would let the GOP define the whole argument, show up the Ds actual ambitions and goals for what they are . . . even — wait for it — solve the problem. Amazing.

Which is ironic, because the group they’re ostensibly fighting for here — illegals — might very well accept Rubio’s longer time frame for citizenship in exchange for the right to work legally in America immediately. That’s been Raul Labrador’s point all along: Most illegals he’s encountered as an immigration lawyer don’t care about becoming citizens, he claims, they care about jobs.

Nah. Look at the lawless, drug cartel controlled 3rd world pissfarm that is Mexico right now … why would anyone risk that to become a citizen sooner? Stay, work, and wait for another nitwit Democrat congress to pass a more lenient amnesty in four years.