After 17 years of driving stickshifts, I went DSG so that the wife-to-be could drive the car too. I did multiple test drives to ensure I could be happy with it and thought it through and finally a deal came along on a floor model 2011 CC R-Line I couldn't pass up - but it was a DSG.

I'm disappointed to say the least. I'm finding myself constantly driving it in manual mode, but I'm not sure if that's healthy - and even then, this thing does crazy stuff like:

-It decides to keep throttle going for many, many seconds after I let off gas
-Shifts from 1st to 2nd seem to be "riding the clutch" to provide the equivalent granny-smoothness of torque converters.
-It simply feels more automatic than I would have liked (especially due to the previous point)
-It seems reluctant to downshift when in Drive. Maybe the new TFSI's don't have the problem, but with my previous MKV, the FSI's had issues with blown DV's that as I recall would be accentuated at low revs in higher gears. The reluctance to upshift isn't helping that.

Liquid - I drive my DSG in manual 100% of the time except for sport mode on the 1/4 mile track and highway racing. Been banging on it for 47k without issues. D mode is for economy and VW has programmed the behavior you describe to save fuel. I have experienced the "riding sensation" a handful of times under light tip. If you have VCDS I would recommend running thru the basic settings for the DSG to see if that improves anything. The procedure van be found on RossTech's website. HPA doesn't change their D mode until stage 3 and up but you will definitely enjoy manual more with their stage 2 and up flash since it removes the auto upshift when you hit the rev limiter. This should bring back some of you MT habits. I will refer to HPA to address your questions further.

Liquid - I drive my DSG in manual 100% of the time except for sport mode on the 1/4 mile track and highway racing. Been banging on it for 47k without issues. D mode is for economy and VW has programmed the behavior you describe to save fuel. I have experienced the "riding sensation" a handful of times under light tip. If you have VCDS I would recommend running thru the basic settings for the DSG to see if that improves anything. The procedure van be found on RossTech's website. HPA doesn't change their D mode until stage 3 and up but you will definitely enjoy manual more with their stage 2 and up flash since it removes the auto upshift when you hit the rev limiter. This should bring back some of you MT habits. I will refer to HPA to address your questions further.

Thanks for your feedback, it's got me thinking of this more and more, and has comforted me in my use of the DSG in manual mode exclusively. The DSG works largely by design as I understand it, I don't know that the vag-com recalibration would do anything.

I'm starting to wonder now if it isn't the ECU reprogramming combined with a DSG programming that would resolve my biggest annoyance: When I let off the gas, even in manual mode, the car's throttle stays open slightly for 10-15 seconds (which feels like minutes, to be honest). Often, when I'm coming to a stop, it feels like I have to fight with the car trying to push while I'm trying to stop - exactly what I hate about your run-of-the-mill automatics.

I know, from my experience on the GTI that a revo/apr/whomever flash will get rid of most of the "lingering throttle" after I let off on my stickshift GTI. I'm hoping that a combination of an ECU reflash with HPA's flash will get rid of that annoying "feature."

Can someone from HPA let me know if this changes in terms of the tranny's behavior when off throttle in manual mode?

That 10-15 second sticky throttle symptom sounds odd to me. I personally can say I've never experienced anything like that. Have you researched if there are any TSBs on that?

Edit: that may not be DSG related. You should log your throttle body valve and i think it g187 sensor sensor to see what's going on there. IIRC the g187 is the pedal sensor that tells the throttle valve (g188 sensor) when to open/close. I may have the two reversed though...can't remember.

I really want to get the stage 2 software, as im one of those people that thinks the DSG should be more aggressive, more crisp, theirs just to much slip. My 07 A3 is actually at Audi getting a new DSG installed (It was making a clacking noise at idle, they don't know what is causing it so there just replacing it under warranty) so im hoping it will feel more crisp than my 50K mile original. 900 bucks for software is just painful tho. Are you guys planning any sales anytime soon? I know you get what you pay for but geeez!

I really want to get the stage 2 software, as im one of those people that thinks the DSG should be more aggressive, more crisp, theirs just to much slip. My 07 A3 is actually at Audi getting a new DSG installed (It was making a clacking noise at idle, they don't know what is causing it so there just replacing it under warranty) so im hoping it will feel more crisp than my 50K mile original. 900 bucks for software is just painful tho. Are you guys planning any sales anytime soon? I know you get what you pay for but geeez!

I own a 2012 Dsg gli. Currently stage 2 ecu upgrade Carbonio intake and tbe. Pushing 255 whp and 315wtq on 93 tune. I would like some info/pricing for the Dsg upgrade and also confirmation that this adds launch control. How about no traction control though? Does it still work properly without this feature or does it get added into the software.
Thanks
Frank

I own a 2012 Dsg gli. Currently stage 2 ecu upgrade Carbonio intake and tbe. Pushing 255 whp and 315wtq on 93 tune. I would like some info/pricing for the Dsg upgrade and also confirmation that this adds launch control. How about no traction control though? Does it still work properly without this feature or does it get added into the software.
Thanks
Frank

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We are working out the launch control on the cars without ESP off buttons. It should be possible, launch control would simply suspend ESP while it is being utilized.