July 1, 2010

But Mel tells Oksana, "Look what you did to me... look what you are... look what every part of you is... f**king fake... f**king fake.

"You are the most synthetic person... who the f*** are you?"

That's not the worst of it either. I excerpted the bit in the title because of the childishness of "Did so." I excerpted the other part because Gibson chose Oksana Grigorieva presumably because of and not in spite of her looks. But maybe "every part" included her soul and it was only after harsh experience that he was able to determine that that part of her was fucking fake too. But our Mel — he is not fucking fake. He's always had genuinely great looks and a genuinely horrible temper.

A guy goes home with a bird he meets at a bar. They get ready for bed. He strips and jumps in. She goes over to her vanity and carefully removes her make up. Takes off her false eyelashes. Removes wig. Removes padded bra, girdle, etc. Shocking, detaches prosthetic leg and leans it against the wall. The man deadpans, "When you get to the good part, toss it over here."

Mel Gibson needs a good counselor to talk him out of his self destructive behaviors. He is rich man without any sense that his lack of restraint on his tongue will forever set him up for lawsuits. Gibson seems equally afraid of Jews, and women. He lashes out in angry tirades to dominate whatever he fears.

He left a marriage of 27 years and six children for her and his racist and sexist drunken rant didn't bother her *then*.

Accepting that he's a pig, particularly when drunk, (And not particularly accepting the charges of physical violence until proven,) I hope he got a really excellent pre-nup and that the courts don't let her get around it by calling the payments "child support."

You know, I don't like Mel Gibson. Even before people realized that he's a jerk in real life, I didn't like him. I've hated every movie that he's been involved with. Yes, even Braveheart. Something about him just doesn't work for me.

Sigh, I really don't care about Hollywood people and their personal problems. He's a good actor and not a half-bad director and I'll still go see his films if I am so inclined.

Now when they drag the rest of us into things with moronic opinionating on politics, the environment, the economy, etc., then it's a worry because many people actually think they know what they are talking about.

He is a man with no class, no scruples and no morals. Surprise that he uses the language he does. Cheated on his wife consistently and she finally dumped him Good for you Robyn. What is the saying, When you lie with dogs, you'll probably get fleas. Totally appropriate.

"victoria said...He is a man with no class, no scruples and no morals. Surprise that he uses the language he does. Cheated on his wife consistently and she finally dumped him Good for you Tipper. What is the saying, When you lie with dogs, you'll probably get fleas. Totally appropriate.

Lyssa: You know, I don't like Mel Gibson. Even before people realized that he's a jerk in real life, I didn't like him. I've hated every movie that he's been involved with. Yes, even Braveheart. Something about him just doesn't work for me.

The movie I thought he was best in was Maverick, where he played, basically, a con man. Maybe he just fit the part.

What happened to Mel Gibson is indeed a mystery. When a star misbehaves to the point where other people in the entertainment industry can talk without fear of repercussion, the stories come out. That didn't happen with Gibson. All the evidence is that he was a genuinely, nice and decent family man until a few years ago and then he went batshit crazy.

One incident I can understand--everyone has a really bad day/week/month every now and then--but a constant stream of weirdness is another thing entirely.

Gibson wouldn't be the first who went crazy with fame and/or money, but it seemed to take a while with him.

(Looking through his filmography, I did notice that Passion of The Christ, made in 2003/2004 serves as a rather distinct pivot point for his nuttiness.)

There is no doubt that Mel Gibson is temperamental and immature. But does that not describe almost everyone involved in show business?

What the Hollywood socialist Hymies who hate America will not tolerate is that Mel Gibson is a traditionalist conservative who made The Passion of Christ. For them that is unforgivable and they will do everything in their power to discredit him for it.

As far as I can determine from his public behavior, Mel Gibson is severely bi-polar. Not an excuse or a justification, but from what I know of him, and his family background, seems like pretty good guess.

The game is rigged. If Al Gore for all his wooden (so to speak) sincerity and Mel Gibson with all his raffish charm cannot make a go out of marriage, maybe the fault lies with with intstitution and not with the institutionalized. I blame the wives. They should attempt to emulate a woman like Hillary, a selfless idealist who was willing to look beyond the occasional discomfort of a urinary tract infection to the integrity of her marriage and the joy of being married to a man whose moral grandeur rivalled her own. If you're a flea, if you lie down with dogs, you get fed.

It is pretty clear that Mel is a jerk. It is also clear that Oksana is a gold digger (sorry but true). I am not even sure taping someone is legal in California. Alec Baldwin was not secretely taped, he left his insane crazy rant on his daughter's voice mail.

Mel needs to work on his anger management problems. His old man is nuts, so maybe it is a genetic problem that is manifesting itself now. I do not know.

William said..."The game is rigged. If Al Gore for all his wooden (so to speak) sincerity and Mel Gibson with all his raffish charm cannot make a go out of marriage, maybe the fault lies with with intstitution and not with the institutionalized."

It is pretty obvious to me that there are some of you who broadly state that everyone in Hollywood is a fake, a phony and our state should fall off the face of the earth. No generalizations there. HA! The vast majority of the people, including the actors are decent hard working people who consider their profession a profession, a job. It is not glamorous, nor does it insulate you from normalcy. I live in a town, go to church with and have my kids educated with many, many members of the entertainment community. Trust me, they are like everyone else. They want to live their lives like normal people, earn a living and educate their kids. There are bad, bad people in every profession. The entertainment people are just more visible.

Shame on you, David, shame on you.

We Californians have nothing against the rest of the country, we handle everyone's jealousy of our lovely weather (no 300 days of rain here), our wonderful people (my husband is a native Californian and truly a great human being) and our outstanding contributions to the world. Not to mention the USC Trojans(no haters allowed), Dodgers and the Lakers. Not hate us because you are jealous of us. Come on out and visit.

Make no mistake: Mel Gibson is a drunk, a bigot, and a bully. For all that, he's made some pretty good movies. In The Year of Living Dangerously, Max Max, and the first Lethal Weapon the unhinged quality now on display made him a movie star. When you're young and redeemable, the bad boy qualities are attractive. With a bald spot and a paunch, not so much. Men get an extra ten years, but they also lose it. Maybe that's what's driving him crazy......My fight with Hollywood is not their disparagement of Mel Gibson. He has it coming. But how can you pile on Gibson and then try to exculpate Polanski? Their values are as fucked up as Gibson rant.

I thank the Trojans for taking Lane Kiffin away from my alma mater, Tennessee. (Truly, I do. What a narcissist.)

Being a native of Tennessee, I've never noticed a shortage of snippy, derogatory comments by Californians (I've visited 4 or 5 times), or anyone else outside the South. Don't be so self-righteous and sensitive.

Victoria, I have no problem with the Jews who truly love our country. It is the ones who want to turn it socialist that I have a problem with. It is a well known fact that Hollywood and other media centers are crawling with the latter.

"It is pretty clear that Mel is a jerk. It is also clear that Oksana is a gold digger (sorry but true). I am not even sure taping someone is legal in California. Alec Baldwin was not secretely taped, he left his insane crazy rant on his daughter's voice mail."

Stupid blogger just ate my post saying nearly the same thing.

There is nothing keeping her from leaving him, thus no reason *except* money, to tape him and try to show him as a bad person. If he's not being nasty to his child (and has he ever been accused of being a bad parent to his very many children) then it's not relevant to custody, is it?

And really... if he's looking at this woman and thinking that for *her* he trashed a 27 year marriage and suddenly she's got what she wants and marriage and pre-nup or not she's got an anchor-baby that he can be made to pay out the nose for, for her house and her car and her *stuff*... what does she get if he gets custody?

Look what you did to me? Every part of you is fake? I'll burn the house down?

Your response is that we're all jealous of Californians? Not a good way to close an argument. Especially given the, uh, state of your state: it's in an epic nosedive. If the majority of Californians were anything resembling responsible, it wouldn't be coming apart at the seams.

Please just do the rest of us a favor--when the shit really hits the fan out there, budgetwise--don't ask us to bail you out? Get some of the wealthy and generous entertainers out there to chip in and fix the problem.

Somehow, I doubt that will happen. They, and the rest of you, by way of your horrific State Government, will start demanding money from the rest of us to shore up funds for your entitlements and policies--even though we have consciously chosen not to live the unrealistic and excessive California lifestyle. But here's hoping.

Really, the argument that other Americans envy Californians in this day and age plays to the stereotype that Californians are self-centered, elitist airheads who have no perspective. Scorn or pity is the most common sentiment toward Californians nowadays.

You know, this is really squalid. The woman made secret tapes of Gibson and herself having furious arguments at the end of their marriage. Why don't any of you holier-than-thou folks commenting on how much of a "pig" Gibson is see if you can find any couple in the middle of a hideous divorce who don't use intemperate language when shrieking at the top of their lungs at each other? Are each and every one of you squeaky clean? Never called a girlfried a "fucking cunt" during the break-up fight? Ha ha.

The measure of whether the man is a racist or not ought to be how he acts. Whether, for example, as a director he gives equal chances to black and white men, and so forth. What he yells in what should have been a totally private hysterical argument with his soon to be ex-wife is evidence of squat, except to modern fascists obsessed with thoughtcrime. Blech.

knox's 5:19 PM tirade has all the self-awareness of someone who didn't realize that Silicon Valley made the economy grow in ways that a deregulated, bloated, bubble-prone financial sector (championed by her regressive reps and still advocated by them) never could and never will.

Remind me again which side has a handle on reality and which does not?

Using the current technology to bash California reminds me of terrorist-sympathizers whose curses of Israel reverberate throughout cyberspace on "Zionist" microprocessor units developed at the Haifa branch of Intel.

Steve Jobs is on record as saying that all the best decisions he made at Apple wouldn't have happened had it not been for the trippy, psychedelic culture of the 60's that he was surrounded by out west.

Cultural cannibals is what y'all are. Pissing on the seedbed of your country's best achievements - but without the intention of fertilizing.

The fact of the matter is this: Wall Street wants to dream big in the ways that Hollywood and Silicon Valley always have.

Unfortunately, the former hasn't figured out a way to make it profitable on anything but paper.

Perhaps Californians took even greater advantage of the same daydreams that other prospective home-buyers did - a daydream abetted and sold by Lower Manhattan and cheered on by the best Heartland-representin' deregulators that money could buy.

But unlike others, those are two profitable industries, one predicated on real growth, and of a magnitude that the rest of the country and world has benefited extraordinarily from.

So to piss on the state that gave you those things seems, well, unfortunately just about the norm for today's group of childish revolutionaries - whose swords need only be long enough to cut off the noses that so ungraciously spite their faces.

Knox - "Really, the argument that other Americans envy Californians in this day and age plays to the stereotype that Californians are self-centered, elitist airheads who have no perspective. Scorn or pity is the most common sentiment toward Californians nowadays."

Yeah, you read every day about droves of Californians loading up and making their way east, to the safe and obviously thriving havens represented by all of those states with no economic troubles whatsoever.

And of course, California having the 7th highest GDP in the entire world, and being the 5th biggest supplier of food and agriculture is a real sign of it's eminent demise.

Well the California version of reality is flat broke busted. But I'm sure they're all financial geniuses anyway.

I'm sure Steve Jobs, Eric Schmidt and Jerry Yang are absolutely flabbertasted at the damage that a broke state government seems to be doing to them.

Probably are. Silicon Valley is getting very antsy these days about the way they're being treated.

Especially in a recession where such a situation seems to be more common than not.

And remind me of which party Governor Schwartzenegger belongs to?

Not the Tea Party. Keep in mind who his wife is, but, if fingers be pointed, point them in the same direction as Michael Steele, Lindsey Graham, and the Weird Sisters from Maine.

Jeremy said...

Knox - "Really, the argument that other Americans envy Californians in this day and age plays to the stereotype that Californians are self-centered, elitist airheads who have no perspective. Scorn or pity is the most common sentiment toward Californians nowadays."

Yeah, you read every day about droves of Californians loading up and making their way east, to the safe and obviously thriving havens represented by all of those states with no economic troubles whatsoever.

Quite true, actually. There are a number of demographic maps showing quite a mass exodus from the Once-Golden State. Everybody's GTT these days, just like the 1830s.

Knox, it is obvious to me that, despite the economic problems we have (and there are plenty) still the best place to live. I spent most of my childhood and adolescence moving around the east and the midwest and California and I am firmly entrenched here. Say whatever you want, republican governor or not,whatever crap you have heard from the haters,still a great place to live.The point I was trying to make is that all "hollywood" types are not really a type, anymore than Joe the Plumber is a midwestern type.

Trooper, if you would come up for air you would realize what an ignorant dimwhit you are. Using the likeness of a great man, John Wayne only serves to show me that you are trying to make up for your inadequacies as a man.

Actually, "Tidy Righty", your butt buddy C-fudd is a big defender of Polanski. Not surprising since your Nazi idols were all pervs and molesters. Have you and C-fudd ever been seen in the same place at the same time, except at a glory hole?

Steve Jobs is on record as saying that all the best decisions he made at Apple wouldn't have happened had it not been for the trippy, psychedelic culture of the 60's that he was surrounded by out west.

Steve Jobs grew up in Mountain View, in a neighborhood where all the dads worked on missiles at Lockheed, and all the moms stayed home and baked cookies -- unless they went to work in an early semiconductor fab. The "trippy, psychedelic culture" of his youth was filled with dads working on cars and building room additions.

Discussing a criminal Jew brings out latent anti-Semitism? Did they explain that Madoff was now doing time? I wonder what would have happened had the surveyors explained that Madoff focused his cheating on his co-religionists.

Why did they pick Madoff? He did not receive any bailouts. He was not any sort of big business, but a common swindler, a Ponzi schemer.

Why didn't they pick a black swindler, or Chinese, as a control to assess the innate racism of the two parties?