Academy award winning actress (I think?) Jennifer Lawrence had some not-so-nice things to say about conservative Christians. Not nice at all. I guess she has to make it clear to Hollywood that she's one of them by ranting about women's rights, gay marriage and mocking Christians. Mission accomplished Miss Lawrence. Congratulations, you're just like everyone else around you.

"I was raised a Republican, but I just can't imagine supporting a party that doesn't support women's basic rights," Lawrence told Vogue... "It's 2015 and gay people can get married and we think that we've come so far, so, yay! But have we? I don't want to stay quiet about that stuff," Lawrence told Vogue.

Please stay quiet. The more you speak the less likely I am to see one of your movies. And it's not like I'm going to boycott her or something like that. It's just that when I see her on screen I'll be thinking about her mocking Christians. I'll think she wouldn't like me at all. I won't be able to suspend disbelief.

One of the occasions on which Van Meter met with Lawrence happened to coincide with the day Kim Davis was released from jail, on Sept. 8. The notorious Kentucky country clerk was detained after she refused to administer marriage licenses to same-sex couples despite the Supreme Court's June vote that ultimately legalized same-sex marriage across the United States. Lawrence said Davis was a "lady who makes me embarrassed to be from Kentucky." "Don't even say her name in this house, all those people holding their crucifixes, which may as well be pitchforks, thinking they're fighting the good fight," Lawrence told Vogue. "I grew up in Kentucky. I know how they are."

I know how they are? How are they exactly? What, they fall short of what they desire to be? Yeah, we all do that.

I happen to think that Kim Davis is pretty brave for standing up for what she believes, knowing she'll be persecuted, mocked, ridiculed, and jailed. I think she's a heck of a lot braver than an actress who espouses the same beliefs as everyone else around her.

And you've got to love how Lawrence employs a particularly nasty metaphor by comparing the crosses to pitchforks. Excuse me? Kim Davis (I'm not in Jennifer Lawrence's house so I can mention that name) gets elected to office and then the law changes and all she does is simply refuse to affix her name to a same-sex marriage license because of her religious beliefs. And for that, she's publicly excoriated, mocked on national television, ridiculed, and thrown in jail. Yet, Christians are the ones with pitchforks? Christians are displaying a mob mentality? I'm not seeing it.

Kim Davis has the guts to be not like everyone else. Jennifer Lawrence just joined the mob that uses Vogue as a pitchfork.

LostinUnderland: Ok, so to you, the statement, “all those people holding their crucifixes, which may as well be pitchforks, thinking they’re fighting the good fight. I grew up in Kentucky. I know how they are,” doesn’t sound like an attack on Christians to you; nor even specifically on Catholics, who would be FAR more likely to hold a crucifix than a Protestant or Evangelical. Just who IS she trashing then?

As for equating the violation of kosher law by a non-Jew (I don’t think that’s even technically possible) with being, in part, responsible for a same-sex “marriage,” is a bit of a stretch.

There will always be people who make the group to which they belong look bad. Kim Davis is not one of them. She was elected to a position which she had no trouble fulfilling at the time of her election. But then, the rules were changed. If she had not wanted to make a statement, she could have resigned—but I’m sure that even THAT wouldn’t have been ignored by the mainstream media. As it is, she chose civil disobedience—which is her right, as long as she is willing to pay the consequences, which she did.

And finally, if the president can ignore the laws with which HE disagrees, why can’t Kim Davis?

Posted by LostInUnderland on Tuesday, Nov, 24, 2015 11:26 AM (EST):

1. Jennifer Lawrence was in no way attacking Christians and especially not Catholics. Do you not recognize that there is a rabid streak of Evangelical Christians that make all Christians look bad? Kim Davis is an embarrassment to Christians.

2. Jews do not openly attempt to convert the world. They live by their own laws and do not ask anyone else to understand nor condemn those who do not. Have you been yelled at by Jews for not keeping Kosher? Now, have you seen Catholics yell at atheists for not living morally?

Posted by Paul S. on Monday, Nov, 23, 2015 3:34 PM (EST):

sarah mac—“Surely, I disagree with her position, but rather than ridicule her and others in public, I think I’ll pray for them instead.”

Yes, of course. But Jennifer is a big girl now, 25 according to imdb.com, and it’s time for her to take responsibility for what she says. While I don’t think that I’ll accept, she has very much INVITED a large percentage of the American public to ridicule her.

The last time that I checked, her latest movie was doing poorly. The same is true for Seth Rogen’s latest films. I don’t believe in ridiculing anyone, but I find myself in agreement with Matthew: When I sit and watch someone who has publicly proclaimed that they hate people like myself, I am unable to suspend disbelief. The statement itself has, in fact, greatly diminished his or her effectiveness as an actor. It’s a shame that Jennifer and Seth weren’t able to make that connection; but I really have no desire to spend my money watching someone who has undermined his or her own talents by making childish, under-informed statements about me and my Catholic brothers and sisters.

I’ll pray for them. But I don’t have to support their bad habits.

Posted by marie on Thursday, Nov, 19, 2015 11:12 PM (EST):

John, Kim Davis was not a christian she divorced then remarried her last husband and had a conversion. She says her mother in law was who brought her to the christian faith. People are allowed to repent.

Posted by lburleso on Thursday, Nov, 19, 2015 2:34 PM (EST):

@Starzec
Even if a “gay gene” is found, that would not normalize homosexual acts; i.e. they would still be considered “intrinsically disordered”.

We can accept people as they are created - with the flaws that we all have - but we must not therefore condone all our actions. I won’t replay the same tired examples here from genetics that everyone is used to hearing.

Posted by mrscracker on Tuesday, Nov, 17, 2015 4:30 PM (EST):

Posted by Joe DeCarlo on Friday, Nov 13, 2015 2:33 PM (EST):

Ms. cracker, because they would get their heads cut off. Christians are not going to do anything.”
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I think the fear factor’s part of the explanation, at least as far as why Muslims aren’t targeted by Hollywood. I kind of doubt celebrities fear an Orthodox Jew-led jihad, so must be another reason they’re silent on that score.

Posted by mrscracker on Tuesday, Nov, 17, 2015 4:22 PM (EST):

Starzec ,
I think that’s correct that Galileo was punished for his heresy, not his Science.

Posted by Starzec on Monday, Nov, 16, 2015 4:20 PM (EST):

Woo. Someone voices an opinion and the Catholics come out whining.
And because she called out someone who decided it was in her job description to not follow the law, they cry louder. So predictable. The only difference between Ms Davis and Westboro Baptist is that we have not heard whether or not any of the Westboro Baptist folks hold an elected office but refuse to do the job all while collecting a paycheck. BTW, why don’t the conservatives deal with that issue? Aren’t they the ones incessantly vilifying public employees and officials?
No, really, please continue down your road of hypocrisy.
Patric, wow really sorry for these Catholics. Don’t forget, it was Pope Paul V who punished Galileo for his heresy. Like all the other scientific advances that has taken the Catholic Church years to come to accept, there will come a day when Catholic Biologists know and accept what all all other biologists know and accept: that homosexual tendencies are widespread throughout nature. Then they will amend the teachings and policies. God Bless

Posted by Francine on Monday, Nov, 16, 2015 3:08 PM (EST):

Most people in the world hate conservative Christians as much or more than Muslim extremists. Maybe you should take a good look at yourselves.

Posted by James on Monday, Nov, 16, 2015 2:57 PM (EST):

“Blogger Matthew Archbold doesn’t seem to like liberal christians.”

Posted by marie on Monday, Nov, 16, 2015 12:15 PM (EST):

Matthew, dont provoke, that is not Christian. Jennifer is not a role model. We have placed Hollywood into a PEDESTAL. If we had placed CHRIST and the lives of our SAINTS into the same PEDESTAL, the world would have a better opinion of us period ! We go about making the bad and the ugly as a “VISION” for the future lol.
If the Catholics and the Christians wanted to be GOOD INTENDED Producers and role models, they should invest on making movies according to the lives of our SAINTS. Today nobody talks about these HEROES, full of drama, action, emotion, heroism, fears, loss, sacrifice, love, hate, power, dominos, suffering, struggles, and persecution. NO MOVIE can compare!! Hollywood and Christians are two sided coins and they choose the JOKER. What a TRAGEDY for humanity ! There is a SAINT for EVERYDAY, the Church does not even teach or mention one at MASS or in Schools. How about trying to honor their children in Christian names. No they call them TIFFANY !

Posted by Miss YaYa on Monday, Nov, 16, 2015 10:13 AM (EST):

Jennifer Lawrence wouldn’t have gotten to where she is today if she hadn’t agreed to sacrifice her morals and beliefs to join the Hollywood Empire. She is doing her job by echoing the sentiments her employers want her to. I wouldn’t expect anything less from a girl who had a daliance with a well-known married British singer.

Posted by James on Saturday, Nov, 14, 2015 9:02 PM (EST):

There’s an old saying, Ms. Lawrence. Better to remain quiet and be thought an idiot, rather than opening your mouth and removing all doubt.

Posted by Kmbold on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 11:14 PM (EST):

“I grew up in Kentucky” too, and I also “know what they are like”. But who is Jennifer Lawrence?

Posted by lilly on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 11:07 PM (EST):

I liked her. I thought she was cute and different. Now she’s just a sellout for the Hollywood elite and their occultic talking points. Hurray!
She’ll go the way of passé starlets like Demi Moore and Holly Hunter who displayed their anti-Christ hatred and ignorance and then tanked. No one wants to hear their drivel. Really.
She must have taken her oath to the other side. The Hunger Games will be her last hurrah.
Next she will be dancing naked for Terry Richardson. That’s usually the trajectory.

Posted by T. Knight on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 7:15 PM (EST):

BC in AZ / Bob Arroo - If you dont like it I think TMZ is about to come on or you could just go surf some porn - maybe that’s more to your liking than a conservative Catholic website….

Posted by BC in AZ on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 6:56 PM (EST):

Weird. Another complaint blog. Boy, never could have predicted that. Wonder why Ms. Lawrence has a hard time cozying up to conservative Christians. Baffling.

Posted by Bob Arroo on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 6:16 PM (EST):

Mr. Archbold loves him some good old-fashioned hating. Lawrence knows her right-wing pigs…

Posted by CatholicDan on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 5:23 PM (EST):

I hate to have to hear what celebrities think about social issues, but I have to in order to answer people who are truly confused about values in light of what celebrities say. So people, keep your friends close but your enemies closer.

Posted by Donald Link on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 4:48 PM (EST):

This child is an example of too much, too soon and too fast. Hopefully she will gain a bit of wisdom and judgement as she passes through the real world. Living in the cocoon called the entertainment world, there is room to doubt this might happen.

Posted by T. Knight on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 4:06 PM (EST):

Patric - one other thing: It seems like you are confusing “loving” someone with having sex with them. Can’t you love a person without having sex with them? I’m a man and enjoy the friendship and company of men and have some very strong bonds but we don’t have sex when we hang out together. Could you live in a committed loving chaste relationship with another man? It seems like that might solve your problem…

Posted by T. Knight on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 3:58 PM (EST):

Patric, that’s the thing about the Catholic Faith - it contains moral absolutes. Based on your post it sounds like you want to “be Catholic” without having to embrace sacrifice, in your case controlling your desire to commit homosexual sodomy. To be Catholic one must overcome his sinful desires. I’m Catholic and I want to have sex with lots of women other than my wife. I don’t - that’s the sacrifice. Do you think I can be “Catholic” and cheat on my wife?

Posted by Joe DeCarlo on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 3:04 PM (EST):

Patric, you can’t be a Catholic and be a practicing homosexual. Either become a non practicing gay or find a Christian denomination with which you agree.

Posted by Patric on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 2:47 PM (EST):

If Kim David truly represents “conservative Christians,” then who is to blame Jennifer Lawrence for disliking them? If some Christians continue to have this waving-their-pitchforks stance on the same old issues, then more and more people will get the wrong impression of Christianity.

I am Catholic, and I am also gay. I am still trying to understand my place within the Church; I want to be faithful to Christ, but I want to integrate the faith authentically with who I am. I am as frustrated as Jennifer when I see people identifying as Christians oh-so focused on the gay issue. Most gay people want to live happy, normal lives, which includes being able to fall in love—if they do so fall in love. The adamant protest that gay persons shouldn’t be able to live their relationships in commitment because they are committing damnable acts is a silly notion to many like Jennifer who have close friends who are gay, and to many of us gay persons who have an innate desire for love…and with another individual who happens to be the same sex.

Posted by Joe DeCarlo on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 2:33 PM (EST):

Ms. cracker, because they would get their heads cut off. Christians are not going to do anything.

Posted by Dan on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 12:40 PM (EST):

The truly sad reality is this, the unrepentant soul suffering in hell would rejoice if they were told they would be released in 10,000 years. “I don’t fear the persecution, I expect it”. St. John the Baptist, pray for us!

Posted by tg on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 12:01 PM (EST):

My first thought was - who the #^^& is that?

Posted by T. Knight on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 11:43 AM (EST):

sursun - excellent point. These people are professional liars - their whole existence involves pretending to be something they’re not….and yes, they need our prayers, but we devout Christians, perched on the edge of the looming persecution, need to identify our enemies and persecutors.

Posted by Larry on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 11:34 AM (EST):

Why do we give a rat’s patoot about what entertainers think? Why do we put them on a pedestal? She’s entitled to her opinion, I’m entitled to mine. Hers doesn’t outweigh mine and shouldn’t be given any sort of credence just because she’s a celebrity.

Posted by mrscracker on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 10:41 AM (EST):

sarah mac,
It’s true. If these folks think we live in a sort of rightwing vacuum, the same sort of cultural isolation holds true for Hollywood.
Prayer & kindness is always the best way to breach barriers.

Posted by john on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 10:38 AM (EST):

c.c., so davis’s “conversion” absolves her of having to rectify her situation? you can do whatever you want before your “conversion,” maintain the status quo and then pass judgment on others after the fact? if she has truly “converted,” why doesn’t she go back to her first husband? or live a celibate life? isn’t that what so many expect gay people to do? why does she get a pass? if she were really “converted” and so “traditional,” shouldn’t she hold herself up to the same standards she holds other people? again, hypocrisy. blatant, filthy hypocrisy.

Posted by sarah mac on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 9:28 AM (EST):

It took me less than 3 seconds to confirm that Ms. Lawrence won an Oscar, so are you lazy or just being snide? Hardly an excuse for either.

Honestly, I pity her. In the same way I pity Miley and Lindsey Lohan. These young, and incredibly talented people are attacked by leeches who seek to gain something for themselves by latching on. Influenced at such a young age -and rarely if ever exposed to different views- they have little chance of breaking loose.

Surely, I disagree with her position, but rather than ridicule her and others in public, I think I’ll pray for them instead.

How come these celebrities never say anything about Muslims or orthodox Jews when it comes to women’s rights or gay rights? How come?
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I’ve wondered about that, too.

Posted by sursun on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 7:26 AM (EST):

Actors and actresses are idiots. They have to be. Their job - get this - is to pretend they are someone else. So, If people who live in fantasy worlds all day have crazy opinions, we should expect the truth to be the exact opposite of whatever they say

I say, truth in advertising! Make actors admit they are craxy before they give their political opinions.

Posted by john on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 2:41 AM (EST):

If Kim Davis had “guts” like you suggest she would go back to her first husband and not try to justify her FOURTH civil marriage license while denying gay people civil marriage licenses on the grounds it would violate her “traditional Christian conscience.” Her hypocrisy is breathtaking. On what grounds, if any, can she justify her multiple marriages, admission of adultery under oath and two children born out-of-wedlock while denying civil marriage licenses to gay couples/taxpayers who help pay her salary? The woman reeks of hypocrisy.

Posted by Brad on Friday, Nov, 13, 2015 12:32 AM (EST):

Never heard of her.

Posted by SAS on Thursday, Nov, 12, 2015 11:13 PM (EST):

How come these celebrities never say anything about Muslims or orthodox Jews when it comes to women’s rights or gay rights? How come?

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