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I apologise if this has already been discussed - I must confess I have not read every single post in the thread - but I just wanted to offer some info (without inferring anything) on SH. From what I can see, her friends on Facebook are all quite adamant that she cannot be fully involved. Many of them are posting things to the effect of 'the truth is much bigger than what you see on the surface' and 'do not judge until you know all the facts'. In my travels on the internet I found an old social media page for SH (Bebo) - it seems that a few years ago she was still in touch with her family 5 years ago, as well as at least knowing NM. Which is possibly completely irrelevant as what 16/17 year old is not living with their parents in most cases - but she seemed to be close to them - especially her sister. Fast-forward to today - SH has very few friends judging by her activity on Facebook, and is estranged from her family and old best friends - I think it has been mentioned that her relationship with her mother is non-existent and she is not friends with any of her family or siblings on Facebook.

The estrangement from family is interesting given that it's being reported one of the houses searched - the one in Southmead - is her mother's. I read a public comment from one of her cousins suggesting that she'd got back in contact with her mother the weekend before she was arrested, and that this was the first time they'd seen each other in four years (based on the guidelines above, hope it's OK to paraphrase that!). That fits with the suggestion her mother's house was searched. I wonder if she went there because NM wanted her and the baby out of the way, for some reason...

The estrangement from family is interesting given that it's being reported one of the houses searched - the one in Southmead - is her mother's. I read a public comment from one of her cousins suggesting that she'd got back in contact with her mother the weekend before she was arrested, and that this was the first time they'd seen each other in four years (based on the guidelines above, hope it's OK to paraphrase that!). That fits with the suggestion her mother's house was searched. I wonder if she went there because NM wanted her and the baby out of the way, for some reason...

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Ah see now that's really interesting. It speaks to something big happening within their relationship IMO. Perhaps she was reaching out to her family because NM had done something which had worried her enough to try and seek help?

Can I ask you guys to explain what some of the other abbreviations you use mean? Like MOO for instance? Thanks!

Ah see now that's really interesting. It speaks to something big happening within their relationship IMO. Perhaps she was reaching out to her family because NM had done something which had worried her enough to try and seek help?

Can I ask you guys to explain what some of the other abbreviations you use mean? Like MOO for instance? Thanks!

Ah see now that's really interesting. It speaks to something big happening within their relationship IMO. Perhaps she was reaching out to her family because NM had done something which had worried her enough to try and seek help?

Can I ask you guys to explain what some of the other abbreviations you use mean? Like MOO for instance? Thanks!