> I'm thinking that what you posted would make a good wiki page on that
> topic for newbies. It's obvious to you and more experienced folks but not
> to newbies.

I'd have a hard time writing something like that up... perhaps you can
help with the explanation.

Here's where I am coming from:

If someone wants to set up an i-gate, I automatically assume that the
person making the request knows what an i-gate is. That would be a
fair assumption, would it not?

Just to make sure we're on the same page, an i-gate is an APRS
application configured such that specific packets heard on one
interface will be gated to the other interface and vice-versa, one of
those interfaces being RF and the other being the internet.

Hmm, just defining what an i-gate is above has already helped me out.

Since APRSISCE/32 is designed to by default have internet access,
configuring an i-gate has already been described in detail.

In all the other APRS programs, setting up an i-gate instructions show
you how to configure an internet port, and any specific check boxes to
set properly. For APRSISCE/32, the equivalent would be setting up the
RF-Port and the specific check boxes. So Julian's video should be what
you are looking for.

Again, this all assumes that the person setting up an i-gate knows
what an i-gate really is. There's no i-gate wizard in the program that
will drag you through setting things up. The internet side is pretty
much standard, and automatically assumed as operational. The RF side
however has many variations depending upon the hardware/software you
are using to connect to RF via.

So how do we go about explaining it clearly enough to make sense?

--
James
VE6SRV

-- JamesVE6SRV

Steve Daniels

OK James, I have done RDF but not with APRS so you would be the better person to do that I have noticed a few pages that need dealing with KISS port a NEMA and

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OK James, I have done RDF but not with
APRS so you would be the better person to do that

I have noticed a few pages that need
dealing with KISS port a NEMA and also NWS

Will do NWS but as we don’t have it
in the UK
I will rely on someone correcting any errors and omissions

> I'm thinking that what you posted would make a good wiki page on that
> topic for newbies. It's obvious to you and more experienced folks but not
> to newbies.

I'd have a hard time writing something like that up... perhaps you can
help with the explanation.

Here's where I am coming from:

If someone wants to set up an i-gate, I automatically assume that the
person making the request knows what an i-gate is. That would be a
fair assumption, would it not?

Just to make sure we're on the same page, an i-gate is an APRS
application configured such that specific packets heard on one
interface will be gated to the other interface and vice-versa, one of
those interfaces being RF and the other being the internet.

Hmm, just defining what an i-gate is above has already helped me out.

Since APRSISCE/32 is designed to by default have internet access,
configuring an i-gate has already been described in detail.

In all the other APRS programs, setting up an i-gate instructions show
you how to configure an internet port, and any specific check boxes to
set properly. For APRSISCE/32, the equivalent would be setting up the
RF-Port and the specific check boxes. So Julian's video should be what
you are looking for.

Again, this all assumes that the person setting up an i-gate knows
what an i-gate really is. There's no i-gate wizard in the program that
will drag you through setting things up. The internet side is pretty
much standard, and automatically assumed as operational. The RF side
however has many variations depending upon the hardware/software you
are using to connect to RF via.

What radio is showing your path? I suspect it is showing the unwrapped
third-party packet.I am using the vx8g and ftm 350, they both say digi(F) TCPIP digi(L) KB3KBR-1*.
If you check your RF logs in the IGate, do you hear digipeats coming
back of the 3rd party packet?

I dont see any digipeats back in either the scroller or both radios. The whole reason i found out about this was that I had both the ftm 350 and the phone tracking me out of rf range of the gate but not my digi. I was getting my objects
and beacons from -1 thru the digi -2, and my -9 beacons as well but no phone beacons until I got into range of the Igate.
If not, do you even hear digipeats back of your own beacon?Yes. I hear the digis of my beacons and objects just not my gated to rf stations.
What do your radios show of the IGate's beacon as compared to the -IS
to RF gated 3rd party packet?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 11/2/2012 11:22 PM, Greg wrote:
> Hi all, Lynn, I have a question about the is - rf gating. I have a filter set to gate everything from KB3KBR. b/KB3KBR* and while it is working ie I can see my Android phone, KB3KBR-10, coming across my radios, it is not being digipeated even though my path
is set at wide1-1,wide 2-2. The path that is being shown in my radios is TCPIP,KB3KBR-1*. I'm not sure if I messed something up somewhere or what.
>
>
> My igate filter is showing:
> WinMain:2012-11-03T03:22:01.869 Considering:KB3KBR-10(IS) I: 2
> WinMain:2012-11-03T03:22:01.869 IStoRF:IS[APRS-IS](Hit(b/KB3KBR*)) [0]KB3KBR-10>APDR12,TCPIP*,qAC,N5JXS-F1:=4123.64N/07938.51W$
http://aprsdroid.org/ Samsung Droid Charge
> WinMain:2012-11-03T03:22:01.869 IStoRF:Packet(KB3KBR-10) KB3KBR-1>APWW10,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2:}KB3KBR-10>APDR12,TCPIP,KB3KBR-1*:=4123.64N/07938.51W$
http://aprsdroid.org/ Samsung Droid Charge
>
>
> Thanks, Greg KB3KBR
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Adam Mahnke

This is from my Filter Test Log (Ctrl+G) I ve added b/KC2ANT-2 to my IGate filter. I force a beacon from -2 (on a different PC) it as best I can tell it s

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This is from my Filter Test Log (Ctrl+G)

I've added b/KC2ANT-2 to my IGate filter. I force a beacon from -2 (on a different PC) it as best I can tell it's being spit back at my by W2ZJ-1, N2PYI-1, KC2ANT-1, and KB2FAF-1.

So it appears that the WIDE2-2 path on my home station is holding true for TCPIP stations.

I can't remember who, but someone mentioned about stopping the APRS droid and phone commercial. I personally use my e-mail (that hits the phone) on my APRSdroid so that someone watching me has a way to get a hold of me if they see a problem with my beacons, like the every 5 second smart beacon burst.... (which is why I run a 2 mile distance setting)

What radio is showing your path? I suspect it is showing the unwrapped
third-party packet.I am using the vx8g and ftm 350, they both say digi(F) TCPIP digi(L) KB3KBR-1*.
If you check your RF logs in the IGate, do you hear digipeats coming
back of the 3rd party packet?

I dont see any digipeats back in either the scroller or both radios. The whole reason i found out about this was that I had both the ftm 350 and the phone tracking me out of rf range of the gate but not my digi. I was getting my objects and beacons from -1 thru the digi -2, and my -9 beacons as well but no phone beacons until I got into range of the Igate.
If not, do you even hear digipeats back of your own beacon?Yes. I hear the digis of my beacons and objects just not my gated to rf stations.
What do your radios show of the IGate's beacon as compared to the -IS
to RF gated 3rd party packet?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 11/2/2012 11:22 PM, Greg wrote:
> Hi all, Lynn, I have a question about the is - rf gating. I have a filter set to gate everything from KB3KBR. b/KB3KBR* and while it is working ie I can see my Android phone, KB3KBR-10, coming across my radios, it is not being digipeated even though my path is set at wide1-1,wide 2-2. The path that is being shown in my radios is TCPIP,KB3KBR-1*. I'm not sure if I messed something up somewhere or what.
>
>
> My igate filter is showing:
> WinMain:2012-11-03T03:22:01.869 Considering:KB3KBR-10(IS) I: 2
> WinMain:2012-11-03T03:22:01.869 IStoRF:IS[APRS-IS](Hit(b/KB3KBR*)) [0]KB3KBR-10>APDR12,TCPIP*,qAC,N5JXS-F1:=4123.64N/07938.51W$ http://aprsdroid.org/ Samsung Droid Charge
> WinMain:2012-11-03T03:22:01.869 IStoRF:Packet(KB3KBR-10) KB3KBR-1>APWW10,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2:}KB3KBR-10>APDR12,TCPIP,KB3KBR-1*:=4123.64N/07938.51W$ http://aprsdroid.org/ Samsung Droid Charge
>
>
> Thanks, Greg KB3KBR
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Greg Depew

i think the } is what is messing it up as not being digi d. I have the same as well and MY packets such as my beacon don t have it but all of my gated packets

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i think the } is what is messing it up as not being digi'd. I have the same as well and MY packets such as my beacon don't have it but all of my gated packets do and i think the digi is ignoring what is before and only reading the tcpip kb3kbr-1*.

I can't remember who, but someone mentioned about stopping the APRS droid and phone commercial. I personally use my e-mail (that hits the phone) on my APRSdroid so that someone watching me has a way to get a hold of me if they see a problem with my beacons, like the every 5 second smart beacon burst.... (which is why I run a 2 mile distance setting)

What radio is showing your path? I suspect it is showing the unwrapped
third-party packet.I am using the vx8g and ftm 350, they both say digi(F) TCPIP digi(L) KB3KBR-1*.
If you check your RF logs in the IGate, do you hear digipeats coming
back of the 3rd party packet?

I dont see any digipeats back in either the scroller or both radios. The whole reason i found out about this was that I had both the ftm 350 and the phone tracking me out of rf range of the gate but not my digi. I was getting my objects and beacons from -1 thru the digi -2, and my -9 beacons as well but no phone beacons until I got into range of the Igate.
If not, do you even hear digipeats back of your own beacon?Yes. I hear the digis of my beacons and objects just not my gated to rf stations.
What do your radios show of the IGate's beacon as compared to the -IS
to RF gated 3rd party packet?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 11/2/2012 11:22 PM, Greg wrote:
> Hi all, Lynn, I have a question about the is - rf gating. I have a filter set to gate everything from KB3KBR. b/KB3KBR* and while it is working ie I can see my Android phone, KB3KBR-10, coming across my radios, it is not being digipeated even though my path is set at wide1-1,wide 2-2. The path that is being shown in my radios is TCPIP,KB3KBR-1*. I'm not sure if I messed something up somewhere or what.
>
>
> My igate filter is showing:
> WinMain:2012-11-03T03:22:01.869 Considering:KB3KBR-10(IS) I: 2
> WinMain:2012-11-03T03:22:01.869 IStoRF:IS[APRS-IS](Hit(b/KB3KBR*)) [0]KB3KBR-10>APDR12,TCPIP*,qAC,N5JXS-F1:=4123.64N/07938.51W$ http://aprsdroid.org/ Samsung Droid Charge
> WinMain:2012-11-03T03:22:01.869 IStoRF:Packet(KB3KBR-10) KB3KBR-1>APWW10,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2:}KB3KBR-10>APDR12,TCPIP,KB3KBR-1*:=4123.64N/07938.51W$ http://aprsdroid.org/ Samsung Droid Charge
>
>
> Thanks, Greg KB3KBR
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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