I've never seen a single episode or even a minute of any of these movies. I vaguely remember reading the comic when I was a little kid though. By the time I was about 11, I think it was already too juvenile for my tastes and I was into the Smurfs.

I don't think I enjoyed a single one of the original movies. I wasn't that big on the cartoon. I loved the original black and white comic by Eastman and Laird, the dark, brooding version of TMNT, four lost souls hell-bent on vengeance. Yes, I get the appeal of the "cowabunga, dude!" pizza munching turtles, and they were okay, but I always preferred the original incarnation. That, to me, is the source material that was already abandoned for what most people are nostalgic for. And I'll see this one, because I have a five year old boy who is completely obsessed with TMNT right now, and as long as he's happy, I'm happy. But, let's be honest. It's not like Michael Bay is rebooting "Citizen Kane" or "Lawrence of Arabia."

As much as the Fark Hate Brigade will hate to admit it, I think this movie will (sadly) pull in Transformers-level cash. I expect this to be ~$350 million, maybe as high as $400 million. May God have mercy on us all...

If they are changing their origin into scientific experiment to create super heroes/warriors, why the hell would the scientists, unless guano loco, think to themselves "lets create super ninjas by mutating the worlds slowest creature into some sort of half human monstrosity."

UncomfortableSilence:If they are changing their origin into scientific experiment to create super heroes/warriors, why the hell would the scientists, unless guano loco, think to themselves "lets create super ninjas by mutating the worlds slowest creature into some sort of half human monstrosity."

Robocop 2014 rocked! But the bad guy (who acted smart up until then) went total retard at the end.

And I'm hopeful for this movie. April (from the first cartoon and the first couple of movies) is eye candy so Fox is perfect for the role. And the Turtles taking out a vehicle with his shell was kind of cool.

The white guy (and April's dad's friend) as Shredder would suck. Just a tired plot device to have everyone related to everyone else in the movie.

whosits_112:UncomfortableSilence: If they are changing their origin into scientific experiment to create super heroes/warriors, why the hell would the scientists, unless guano loco, think to themselves "lets create super ninjas by mutating the worlds slowest creature into some sort of half human monstrosity."

Because SCIENCE, duh!

Come on guys, it's easy to noodle it out. They try to make super warriors. Well it can't work, or we would have tons and tons of super warriors running around and the TMNT wouldn't be anything special. However if you drop the super soup down the sewer and it mixes with something (ie: new york water and/or pizza) and then works.... Well then you have the TMNT back story (damn near perfect to the comic) and you have the reason why you have the TMNT and not a whole host of other super warriors.

everybody keeps bashing on how the turtles look creepy..........how do you make human-turtle hybrid creatures that don't look odd and creepy? There is a lot there that indicates suckage. The CGI isn't one of them.

The Stealth Hippopotamus:whosits_112: UncomfortableSilence: If they are changing their origin into scientific experiment to create super heroes/warriors, why the hell would the scientists, unless guano loco, think to themselves "lets create super ninjas by mutating the worlds slowest creature into some sort of half human monstrosity."

Because SCIENCE, duh!

Come on guys, it's easy to noodle it out. They try to make super warriors. Well it can't work, or we would have tons and tons of super warriors running around and the TMNT wouldn't be anything special. However if you drop the super soup down the sewer and it mixes with something (ie: new york water and/or pizza) and then works.... Well then you have the TMNT back story (damn near perfect to the comic) and you have the reason why you have the TMNT and not a whole host of other super warriors.

Really guy, you're not even trying.

I'll need confirmation that the accident is what happened first. All I had heard was speculation regarding them being an experiment in super soldiers. In any case, I'll still need a Splinter or something to explain the training if it's an accident.

The Stealth Hippopotamus:whosits_112: UncomfortableSilence: If they are changing their origin into scientific experiment to create super heroes/warriors, why the hell would the scientists, unless guano loco, think to themselves "lets create super ninjas by mutating the worlds slowest creature into some sort of half human monstrosity."

Because SCIENCE, duh!

Come on guys, it's easy to noodle it out. They try to make super warriors. Well it can't work, or we would have tons and tons of super warriors running around and the TMNT wouldn't be anything special. However if you drop the super soup down the sewer and it mixes with something (ie: new york water and/or pizza) and then works.... Well then you have the TMNT back story (damn near perfect to the comic) and you have the reason why you have the TMNT and not a whole host of other super warriors.

FULL DISCLOSURE: Yes, I'm a big fan of the 1987 original. In spite of that, however, I really wanted to give this a chance, and there seemed to be a few moments where this version threatened to break out and actually do something. Still, it never did, and I couldn't ever shake the feeling that this was some coked-up executive's bid for relevance. Half of the principal cast looked like they didn't want to be there, and the other half tried way too hard. And don't get me started on the suit.

whosits_112:As much as the Fark Hate Brigade will hate to admit it, I think this movie will (sadly) pull in Transformers-level cash. I expect this to be ~$350 million, maybe as high as $400 million. May God have mercy on us all...

Worldwide? Sure. Domestically? There's no way this gets anywhere near that. If this hits $200m stateside, I would be surprised.

Robocop 2014 rocked! But the bad guy (who acted smart up until then) went total retard at the end.

And I'm hopeful for this movie. April (from the first cartoon and the first couple of movies) is eye candy so Fox is perfect for the role. And the Turtles taking out a vehicle with his shell was kind of cool.

The white guy (and April's dad's friend) as Shredder would suck. Just a tired plot device to have everyone related to everyone else in the movie.

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UncomfortableSilence:If they are changing their origin into scientific experiment to create super heroes/warriors, why the hell would the scientists, unless guano loco, think to themselves "lets create super ninjas by mutating the worlds slowest creature into some sort of half human monstrosity."

Because they have organic armor? Why were turtles picked in the first place anyway?

The Stealth Hippopotamus:whosits_112: UncomfortableSilence: If they are changing their origin into scientific experiment to create super heroes/warriors, why the hell would the scientists, unless guano loco, think to themselves "lets create super ninjas by mutating the worlds slowest creature into some sort of half human monstrosity."

Because SCIENCE, duh!

Come on guys, it's easy to noodle it out. They try to make super warriors. Well it can't work, or we would have tons and tons of super warriors running around and the TMNT wouldn't be anything special. However if you drop the super soup down the sewer and it mixes with something (ie: new york water and/or pizza) and then works.... Well then you have the TMNT back story (damn near perfect to the comic) and you have the reason why you have the TMNT and not a whole host of other super warriors.

Really guy, you're not even trying.

But having April directly connected to the origin of the Turtles just seems completely unnecessary.