Yeah I think Tony might have crossed a line with that. That speech from Gillard was as personal and vitriolic as they come - a kind of "get-it-all-off-your-chest" speech. I don't know the last time I saw a major politician get so singularly angry, and it really does alarm me.

It's gotta be an inadvertent ****up, cannot imagine that he actually thought it would be a good idea to say that. Just repeating a line he's said really often.

But I think he accidentally crossed a line and took us to a very, very nasty place. There's confected political outrage and then there's genuine personal hatred. Today smacked more of the latter from Gillard.

It's gotta be an inadvertent ****up, cannot imagine that he actually thought it would be a good idea to say that. Just repeating a line he's said really often.

But I think he accidentally crossed a line and took us to a very, very nasty place. There's confected political outrage and then there's genuine personal hatred. Today smacked more of the latter from Gillard.

You would think the Leader of the Opposition would be more careful in avoiding phrases that have been made incredibly offensive, especially given he's the one looking to represent our country on an international scale. Needs to think before he talks.

And all things considered, I think Gillard has a right to be vitriolic and generally pissed off at Abbott for it; the entire media and online community has crucified Jones for his comments, and now Abbott's essentially supporting them by using the same phrase. It's incredibly insensitive and has no place in political debate. I don't give a **** whether someone's Liberal or Labor, you DO NOT insult their family, especially days after they've passed away. And, even as a political opponent, echoing the comment - regardless of context - is morally unacceptable.