That about what my BFG GTX 280 OCX are clocked at 665/1458/2400,I imagine they are checking them GTX 280's at 602/1296/2214.I would imangine the load would be higher on the GTX 280's if they ran them at the same speed.

Not true at all, but it seems everyone with a 280 wants people to believe that. It's ok, your 280's are still nice cards, just slightly inferior to the 285 now. It's the nature of technology progression.

The way its going now is just like last year: 8800GTX > 8800GTS > 9800GTX, 9800GTX+.

9800GTX+ is cheaper, more energy efficient, and cooler than a 8800GTX, but not (much) faster.

The GTX285 is not much faster than a GTX280 too... Sadly enough. Old tech, smaller process...

It's really time for something new imho. And something faster.

I hope the GT212 or GT300 will be out soon. I will be the first one to buy it. If its fast.

It was never designed to be much faster, just cheaper to manufacture for Nvidia and a nice byproduct is that it overclocks better, runs cooler, draws less power. Of course it's not a cost effective option for anyone with a 280, but for anyone else, it's a nice step-up.

It was never designed to be much faster, just cheaper to manufacture for Nvidia and a nice byproduct is that it overclocks better, runs cooler, draws less power. Of course it's not a cost effective option for anyone with a 280, but for anyone else, it's a nice step-up.