Congressman Lamar Smith is a leading example as to the disconnect within the Republican Party and reality. His "improvement" would compromise scientific research, and dismantle what little America has left for integrity.

Too late. I dont think anyone sees America as having scientific or political integrity any more.

Benevolent Misanthrope:Congressman Lamar Smith is a leading example as to the disconnect within the Republican Party and reality. His "improvement" would compromise scientific research, and dismantle what little America has left for integrity.

Too late. I dont think anyone sees America as having scientific or political integrity any more.

Hey, remember a few threads ago when I accused Smith of wanting to put zampolits in charge of the NSF? And remember those folks who told us we were overreacting and that Smith's requests were perfectly reasonable? Fark all of you.

The All-Powerful Atheismo:skullkrusher: The All-Powerful Atheismo: skullkrusher: brichter: When future historians are autopsying the corpse of the american empire, I think this kind of thing is going to be very interesting.

People blindly accepting claims that an article makes without actually reading what it refers to?

you're right, the article was inaccurate. They just have to approve that the research follows the board's political agenda BEFORE instead of after.

That's way better.

the author of TFA just made some shiat up

Point and you are in no danger of a mid-air collision

ah, the old "any criticism of undesirable thing X is valid regardless of veracity". You win

skullkrusher:The All-Powerful Atheismo: skullkrusher: The All-Powerful Atheismo: skullkrusher: brichter: When future historians are autopsying the corpse of the american empire, I think this kind of thing is going to be very interesting.

People blindly accepting claims that an article makes without actually reading what it refers to?

you're right, the article was inaccurate. They just have to approve that the research follows the board's political agenda BEFORE instead of after.

That's way better.

the author of TFA just made some shiat up

Point and you are in no danger of a mid-air collision

ah, the old "any criticism of undesirable thing X is valid regardless of veracity". You win

It's funny how much Republicans mirror Communists. They have their own huge propaganda network in Fox News and co., Presidents and presidential candidates who make the Party look bad are basically ignored, other Presidents are elevated to near-legendary status, they attempt to force their political system onto other nations because it's CLEARLY the best....

LordJiro:It's funny how much Republicans mirror Communists. They have their own huge propaganda network in Fox News and co., Presidents and presidential candidates who make the Party look bad are basically ignored, other Presidents are elevated to near-legendary status, they attempt to force their political system onto other nations because it's CLEARLY the best....

make me some tea:Benevolent Misanthrope: Congressman Lamar Smith is a leading example as to the disconnect within the Republican Party and reality. His "improvement" would compromise scientific research, and dismantle what little America has left for integrity.

Too late. I dont think anyone sees America as having scientific or political integrity any more.

Pretty much. We've ceded that to the Asians and the Europeans.

Credibility has resided in multinational reviewed journals pretty exclusively for a little over half a century now. Though, that said, European and American researchers certainly have a leg up on the "actually considered real scientists" thing since China and eastern Asia in general have produced a large volume of blatantly incorrect papers in the last few decades.

Basically, if the government of the UK or France or whatever publishes something, it won't be particularly considered necessarily reliable either. Which is why we mostly just fund it and it's reviewed and published by, y'know, science orgs instead of governments.

Benevolent Misanthrope:Congressman Lamar Smith is a leading example as to the disconnect within the Republican Party and reality. His "improvement" would compromise scientific research, and dismantle what little America has left for integrity.

Too late. I dont think anyone sees America as having scientific or political integrity any more.

ucfknightryan:AverageAmericanGuy: The government shouldn't be in the business of funding research anyway.

So who exactly should be funding basic research in your opinion? The tooth fairy?

If a student is dead set on investigating a topic, then he should pay for the chance to research it. If a school feels that such research is worthwhile, the school ought to provide additional funds to allow the student to see the research to fruition. Those funds can come from tuition, private grants, alumni endowments, partnerships with business, or bake sales, if that's what it takes to raise those funds.

Demanding that the entire nation pay up so some 23 year old can study the mating habits of high school graduates in a high-pressure academic environment is worse than demanding that we all pay up for socialized medicine. At least we all benefit from socialized medicine.

Inquisitors and apparatchiks implementing their progrom, that is all, comrade citizen. In order to prove, once and for all, that `big' government is the enemy, they throw wrecking bars into the turbines and then, when the lights start going out, blame the `regulations; of Big Government for the blackout.

If any of this shiat actually made it past the `nuisance' stage, just who did Smith appoint to chair the Science Subcommittee on Investigations and Oversight? Why, Rep. Broun, of course. You remember:

All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell.

/only thing that would improve my outlook on these two would be their commitment to testing their research hypothesis on the existence of heaven by eating their NRA issued side arms immediately//peer reviews? anyone??