Swiss Banking Is Finishedhttp://www.businessinsider.com/swiss-banking-is-finished-2009-10/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Fri, 09 Dec 2016 14:07:55 -0500Joe Weisenthalhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4cf69616ccd1d587261b0000Jack loachWed, 01 Dec 2010 13:38:13 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4cf69616ccd1d587261b0000
Update .Dec . 1st. 2010.
Nov.23 - - -Nov.26 th. 2010.
The following sent to - - - - 312- - Lords - - - - - - House of Lords.
The following sent to - - - - 649 - - M.P.'s - - - - - House of Commons.
BANKS -PARTNERS IN CRIMES.
Pictet & Cie Bank.
Ivan Pictet.
Charles Pictet.
Nicolas Pictet.
Jacques de Saussure.
Jean – Francois Demole.
Renaud de Planta.
Philippe Bertherat..
Pictet & Cie.- claim they are the “Rolls Royce”of swiss banks.
Swiss Banks or more correctly Swizz banks.
Swizz. ---- “ a great disappointment.” or a “ fraud.”
Fraud. ---“ an intentional deception or dishonesty.”— “a crime.”
Crime. ---“ an act committed or omitted in violation of a law.”
Serious Crimes .
Conspiring to pervert the Course of Justice.
Perverting the Course of Justice.
Contempt of Court.
Pictet & Cie Bank –Partners –(1996—2010)-liable.
Peters &Peters – Partners.—(1999----2010)-liable.
The bank and it’s officials/lawyers deliberately withheld crucial documents requested under a High Court order. The bank and it’s officials/lawyers deliberately withheld evidence from the Police, and one of it’s account managers Susan Broadhead gave a false witness statement to the Police.
Another one of it’s managers Nicholas Campiche ( Now Head of Pictet – Alternative Investments.) concocted a letter pretending to be a client and closed his account. The senior partner (Ivan Pictet.) sought to have numerous documents destroyed,along with those copies held in their London office’s of Pictet Asset Management. Initially stating that they were forgeries then their lawyers Peters & Peters – Monty Raphael –and the barrister Charles Flint.Q.C. later had to admit in Court that the documents were genuine.
British Parliament. Hansard .29th March 2007.
Barry Sheerman .M.P.—quote.
---------“ Constituents of mine have lost £2 million through fraud. The fraudster used Pictet & Cie - - a French Bank - - and Pictet Asset Management to back the fraud being perpetrated.””
(1) It is a criminal offence for a bank to knowingly act for an undischarged criminal bankrupt in so far as it seeks to assist that criminal bankrupt in the fraudulent movement of monies. ( Money Laundering.)
(2) It is a criminal offence for a bank to lie to the police and the bankrupts trustee in bankruptcy in so far as any knowledge of, or dealings with the bank was refuted .
(3) A bank can be guilty of Contempt of Court if it fails to comply fully with the Courts order for discovery .
(4) The banks contempt is further compounded if it fails to address its error after it is specifically drawn to the to its solicitors attention. ( Monty Raphael).
(5) It is a criminal offence under the Financial Services Act to seek to destroy evidence that might be relevant to an investigation .
(6) It is a criminal offence not to relinquish control of funds to the Trustee immediately the fact of the bankruptcy is drawn to the banks attention.
(7) It is a criminal offence to lie or otherwise obfuscate the lawful and proper enquiries of the F.S.A.
In the F.S.A. cover up , they concluded that there had been “ Rogue” elements in Pictet & Cie’s , London operations . They had been moved from their London Office so who was there left to prosecute. “ Unbelievable.”
On Dec 9th,2008. the complaint was sent to 150 Members of the House Of Lords and 230 Members of Parliament.
*** We thank --David Cameron. M.P. ( Canary Wharf Speech.) Dec. 15th. 2008.
Now--- PRIME MINISTER.
(1) Bankers who behave irresponsibly should face professional consequences.
(2) If anyone is found to have behaved criminally they must be prosecuted.
(3) The F.S.A and the Serious Fraud Office should be following up every lead,
investigating every suspect transaction .
(4) We need to make it 100% clear –those who break the law should face
prosecution.
(5) That we make sure we root out any wrongdoing that may have happened, whoever
is involved, however high or well connected they may be.
Ivan Pictet.
Managing partner in Pictet & Cie Bank . --- retiring -?. 2010.
President of the Geneva Financial Centre. ---stepping down -2010. ?
World Bank.committee member.---- ?
United Nations. Investment Committee member,
Vice President – Global Humanitarian Forum. --- redundant.2010.?
Member of the Henokiens.
Blackstone Group --- Board Member.
Past- President – Geneva Private Bankers association.
Past –President – Geneva Chamber of Commerce and Industry.
Monty Raphael. ( Peters & Peters.)
Quote.” ---- Doyen of U.K. Fraud lawyers.
Head of Fraud and Regulatory Dept. ---- stepping down, --2009.? Director of the Fraud Advisory panel.
Member of the Law Society of England & Wales.
International Bar Association Member.
Written Parliamentary Questions received by the table office ..
(1) To ask the secretary of state what steps he is taking to ensure that Swiss Banks such as Pictet & Cie do not evade criminal prosecution under EU law even when the illegal act is committed by a London based subsidiary.
(2)To ask the secretary of state what steps he is taking to protect the rights of UK citizens who seek redress following criminal activities by Swiss banks with subsidiary offices located in London.
On Dec 9th,2008. the complaint was sent to 150 Members of the House Of Lords and 230 Members of Parliament.
On Aug 19th.2009.another complainants file regarding the “cover up” was forwarded to the same 380 members.
We started our campaign in June 2008 -- via the “net” to highlight our fight to get “justice”. In our second year campaign we hoped to reveal further damning evidence . Due to there being an on going Police investigation into our complaint we are at this moment unable to place dozens of documents on to the “net”. Again we thank other “ E- Mailers” for their information in relation to our campaign.
Quote. ( America’s Top Lawyer .)
You can be the richest man in the world with the best lawyers that money can buy but you cannot win against a man who has got nothing left to lose and is telling the truth.
Truth Hurts.
Ivan Pictet. Announces stepping down from Pictet & Cie. 5th Feb 2010.
Stepping Down—President of Geneva Financial centre.—2010.
Monty Raphael. Steps down as head . May. 2009.
*** We note that there has been a sharp increase in Peters & Peters partners leaving to go to other practices. Moving does not alleviate them of any responsibility from any illegalities that may have occurred at Peters & Peters during their partnership tenure. From 1999 onwards.
*** Were currently waiting to see if the Police and other Law Enforcement Bodies attempt to cover this case up like their F.S.A. counterparts. If they do –“ then watch this space.”
We were informed that due to pressure from our M.P. that the Ministry of Justice have asked Lord Myners to investigate our claims that the F.S.A. covered up the illegal activities of Pictet Asset Management. London.
The consensus of opinion is the Pictet & Cie should be prosecuted , and that their U.K. banking licence should be taken away.
Their solicitors at Peters & Peters .London -- prosecuted and” struck off”..
*** Started campaign --- June 6th.2008.
2 years ---- approx 2million e-mails - - - but still no writs, injunctions or threats of litigation - - - WHY - - - because it is all true.
*** . The bigger they are --- the harder they fall.!!!
In America ---- they would have all been in prison for the last seven years.
Full Story.
Go to search box on “Google” and insert ( Ivan Pictet / Monty Raphael) or
insert ( Pictet & Cie / Monty Raphael ) - - then try it on “Google”.
Or try on Yahoo. - - - ( Charles Flint Q.C.) .
Or try on Yahoo - - - ( Nicholas Campiche.)
Nov.23rd --Nov.26th. 2010 .
The above sent to ------ 312 - - Lords - - - House of Lords.
The above sent to --- --649 - - M.P.'s - - - House of Commons._http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4af30d5f000000000070411cJoe The BarbarianThu, 05 Nov 2009 12:37:35 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4af30d5f000000000070411c
Where will the CIA put the slush funds that they use to bankroll third world dictators?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeb94fb00000000003680a9BrunoFri, 30 Oct 2009 21:38:02 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeb94fb00000000003680a9
Is Mr. Weisenthal a fan of Roman Polanski? I can't think of another reason for this rather ignorant and hateful post. Firstly, this is not the first nor the last time an exception to the rule of secrecy has been made, Switzerland does not operate in a vacuum. Secondly, Mr. Polanski does not enjoy diplomatic immunity and as such always gambled when travelling abroad, his arrest is anecdotal and has no impact on Swiss reputation. Switzerland was, is and always will be a solid, dependable country for business and a reliable member of the international community, all who do business there know this to be true.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeb55980000000000c9ddaeIt is not all about AmericaFri, 30 Oct 2009 17:07:36 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeb55980000000000c9ddae
The Swiss banking system will go on, Americans are only a drop in the Swiss banking system. House arrest for some American that had $6 million in an account, that is a small account in Swiss banking terms.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeb359a00000000000bdbb5jgbrFri, 30 Oct 2009 14:51:06 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeb359a00000000000bdbb5
I would never ever live my money at someone other than a swiss banker.
Full stop.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeb0c110000000000a00278pauldebaFri, 30 Oct 2009 11:53:53 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeb0c110000000000a00278
What is the Swiss banking deposits consist of?
23% African despots
23% Latin American Politicians
23% Asian Politicians
23% Ex-Soviet Republic Tycoons
4% Americans hiding assets and avoiding taxes
4% Europeans hiding assets and avoiding taxes
I think it just might survive.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeaf5fe0000000000dd13a2TrailerParkRedneckFri, 30 Oct 2009 10:19:42 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeaf5fe0000000000dd13a2
"I always wondered why (especially) the Brits and the Germans continued to allow it. "
Because the Brits, Germans, et al have their own versions of the U.S. Congress whose members benefit in one way or another when the fat pigeons evade some taxes.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeaf46d0000000000253893Where Do We Hide the $$$ Now?Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:13:01 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeaf46d0000000000253893
I am trying to think of who this will benefit. For example, I guess all those former British colonies that act as tax havens are probably breaking out the champagne today. Their main competitor is ready to give up the ghost.
For all the complaints about the Swiss, I see Gordon Brown hasn't exactly rushed to close down the Isle of Man, Jersey, etc. So the sharp practices will continue, as long as the bankers have a proper Oxford accent.
Now that the Swiss are having to leave this sordid business of hiding money, will the media's interest in this topic die down?
I imagine a lot of Commonwealth banker types must be hoping that is exactly what happens.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeae84400000000000eeb7dconfusedFri, 30 Oct 2009 09:21:08 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeae84400000000000eeb7d
Why should I care if the rich can no longer shelter their money from tax?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeae5650000000000880434BenFri, 30 Oct 2009 09:08:53 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeae5650000000000880434
I don't see how it's too bad that rich people will now have to pay their taxes. If your ideal of a bank is "companies built on trust that promise to keep your valuables 100% safe" I don't see what's changed unless you're a criminal.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeae42e0000000000602939alphadirectedFri, 30 Oct 2009 09:03:41 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeae42e0000000000602939
Let the conspiracy theorists have their day. The fall of Switzerland was needed for the new world order to install their Nirvana. A single world government...
Lol...
@pauldeba. Luxembourg requires you to present more personal information just to open a bank account than anything I've ever seen. They make you speak in bourger while checking to see if your accent is correct (think clearing your throat) at the same time you're giving blood for DNA analysis. They may not say anything to anyone, but if they do, they've certainly got plenty to say...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeae3f800000000000abd6cWilliam TellFri, 30 Oct 2009 09:02:48 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeae3f800000000000abd6c
It's all relative. Do you really think that "Wall Street" and "The City" (London) have lost less "reputational capital" during this financial crisis? Oh, please!
We still have one of the best (if not the best) and most stable political system in the world. We will vote out our spineless politicians that have damaged our banking system and move on.
Greetings from Zurich.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeae24d000000000066a753FesterFri, 30 Oct 2009 08:55:41 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeae24d000000000066a753
Oh, come on. Switzerland is still the home of illicit capital, including half the GOP members'. The government gave up a few names. So what? The outrage is already dying down, now that the markets are roaring back to life. Like the Alps, most of Switerland's wealth and power remains hidden from the little people far below. All they (you) can see is the tip. Yap at it all you like.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeae14c0000000000004b49pauldebaFri, 30 Oct 2009 08:51:24 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeae14c0000000000004b49
Luxembourg and Liechtenstein banks don't have too many foreign branches. Nor do Cayman, Uruguay, Panama etc etc etc. Plenty of places left. Just choose to put your one in the last country to be bullied or where the fewest would go. I'd go with Uruguay, stable banking system oasis in a desert of banking disaster and the US is less likely to screw with sovereignty of a South American country over a tiny issue like this, they like to hold the trump cards to overthrow Communist radical leaders.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeadb250000000000e3b5afbittergreenFri, 30 Oct 2009 08:25:08 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeadb250000000000e3b5af
"FDIC-backed trading houses making money on overdraft fees we have here today."
Well put Joe. Very well put.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeada7f0000000000ab8dd7krypticFri, 30 Oct 2009 08:22:23 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeada7f0000000000ab8dd7
These tax havens always relied on the acquiescence of the countries that surround them to allow their residents to use Swiss (etc) banks to evade taxes.
I always wondered why (especially) the Brits and the Germans continued to allow it.
The countries are now hurting for revenue and pulling the plug on these tax evasion schemes, and it isn't just the Swiss who are co-operating!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeacf53000000000045b2c6Joe_WrongagainFri, 30 Oct 2009 07:34:43 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4aeacf53000000000045b2c6
The arrest of a pedophile child molester certainly destroys any country's reputational capital.