tabs wrote:so they looked at everything have gone to see 'everyone's friend Dave' and said erm actually can't find any evidence for an abductor looks like the parents did it - what the feck do we do now?

Maybe the "Met" are coming round to the way of Chief Inspector Tavares de Almeida's way of thinking. He came to the same conclusion as Dr Goncalo Amaral, that Madeleine died in the McCanns apartment and the McCanns covered up her cadaver scent.

I find it strange that the McCanns have taken out a lawsuit against Dr Amaral, for writing in his book, his theory that Madeleine died in the apartment. Yet they haven't taken out a lawsuit against Chief Inspector Almeida, whose theory which appears in the PJ files. The reason the McCanns say they are suing Dr Amaral, is because people who read his book, which has yet to be translated in English, will not go out and look for Madeleine. Surely the same principle, applies to people who read the files and read Chief Inspector Almeida's report, which he sent to the Coordinator of the Criminal Investigation. Or am I missing something.

Presumably in his case Amaral will be able to cite the report of Chief Inspector Almeidawhich will show the Mccanns seem to have some personal vendetta against Amaral otherwise why not take action against Almeida!

cherry1 wrote:Presumably in his case Amaral will be able to cite the report of Chief Inspector Almeidawhich will show the Mccanns seem to have some personal vendetta against Amaral otherwise why not take action against Almeida!

Exactly Cherry, also the fact that "The Truth of the Lie" which contains Dr Amaral's theory, is back on sale. If there was anything in Dr Amaral's book that was libelous, his book would have been permanently banned. The two Judges in the Appeals and Supreme Courts, must have read the contents of Dr Amaral's book, before they found in favour of Dr Amaral.

The McCanns have shown time and time again that they have a personal vendetta against Dr Amaral. They made an allegation against Dr Amaral, saying he tried to fraudulently claim Legal Aid. Their claim was deemed malicious and thrown out of wherever the claim was made. I hope the Judge in the forthcoming lawsuit, is also aware of this malicious claim made by the McCanns. As well as the fact that their lawyer refused to adhere to the Court Order, which said she had to return the 750 copies of "The Truth of the Lie" , until she and the McCanns were threatened with prosecution.

I would certainly hope he is aware of it kathy, and also how come they are notsuing the PJ! I think the judge should quite clearly be able to see this is a personal vendettaagainst Amaral just like their personal vendetta against Tony!

what they should be doing is getting the lot of them in to go over their statements againas ther statements dont tally! Then follow that with a reconstruction which will highlight untruths which have been told.

And from the Telegraph......."He said the police are sifting through a "large cache" of documents. Portuguese police are refusing to reopen the inquiry."

Must be the most important and significantstatement from that article. The Portuguesepolice know the 'bones of the case', as the NSY,working in a vacuum, try to reach a resultwithout the co-operation and backbone of thePortuguese police. I think that without thejoint co-operation of both investigative agents,the NSY and PJ, this review will out-stretchthe Met's financial budget and will not arriveat a point to conclude their results within areasonable and realistic timeframe, hencetheir disquite.

The whole world and his dog, (especially the blood and cadaver dogs) are aware that something is very wrong with the McCanns and their friends stories and statements. As a gesture of innocence, transparency and a desire to find their daughter, the McCanns and their buddies could have easily offered to be re-interviewed by the British police and stage a re-enactment. This generous offer, (if it had been made) could have contributed to saving many thousands of pounds of taxpayers money, money which other families with missing children could have put to a good use.

I would be happy to bet anything the pj would re-open on the basis of it being a murder enquiry and start off by questionong the original arguodos. I would also bet this has been offered to the uk authorities but has been rejected so now sy are sitting with a pile of paper and nothing to do.

Now if i am right the big question is once again WHO is working behind the scenes wasting sy time and tax payers money and why

The End Is Nigh wrote:No, the policy of non-cooperation started on or before the date it is alleged Madeleine left public view.

Hell will freeze over before the former Arguidos soften their stance.

Maybe we should hope there's a hard winter ahead that will cause Lucifers Lair to freeze up, or we might just as well return to early Victorian beliefs and values as far as child welfare is concerned. Even the NSPCC haven't condemned the McCanns and their parenting by proxy skills....

Indeed so - and furthermore there are an awful lot of people who unswervingly support Healy, McCann et al despite all the Intelligence and Circumstantial information in the Public domain: I'm afraid that I do wonder if these people are taking such an stance because they cannot see anything wrong with the standard of parenting that has been so clearly and often been described by the very perpetrators.

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almostgothic wrote: He said police were still sifting through a huge cache of documents.

Oh do me an effing favour!Are they all slow readers down at the Met?I'd have got through half a library by now - and I'm an old biddy!

This made me laugh! you're very right.

The average reading speed for a child in primary school is 200 words per minute, so to be be generous, I'll use this figure. If there are 30 detectives, the size of a murder squad working on this case that would equal 6000 words per minute. The average working day is 7.5 hours so that equals 450 minutes in a day. 6000 multiplied by 450 equals 2,700,000 which equals 2 million 700 thousand words a day by the officers. I'll be kind and just allocate 1 out of the 5 days a week to reading, so Monday: Following up leads, Tuesday: interviewing people, Wednesday: writing up information, Thursday Meetings, Friday: Reading. 365 days a year subtract weekends/bank holidays equals 252 working days. I'll even allow then 32 days annual leave a year (being generous) so subtract that will equal 220 days in a year.

220 multiplied by 2,700,000 equals 594,000,000 words read from may 2011 (the start of operation grange) to May 2012. + 3 extra months to get where we are now... 148,500,000 + 594,000,000 = 742,500,000

Seven hundred and forty-two million five hundred thousand words.

according to The official case file released to the public it comprises 11,223 pages of documents in four parts: 25-50 lines per page with 35 words per line as the average (I'll use 35 lines as a rough average) = 1225 a page.

1225 words multiplied by 11,223 = 13748175 which means that they could have read the files over 54 times now.

according to google there re 774,746 words in the bible, no idea how much Kate's book has so I'll use this figure as I assume there will be more. If we say that the police only read over the files 27 times, at the same time they could have read Kates book to cross reference it 479 times.

And with all my figures I have been very very conservative!!! Talking of which, I will write to my local ones (Inc the lib dems) via www.writetothem.com to express my support for the continued funding of this case. With all that possible time spend reading... they really can't be that still on the 'abduction theory' ! they must be looking at the holes now!

almostgothic wrote: He said police were still sifting through a huge cache of documents.

Oh do me an effing favour!Are they all slow readers down at the Met?I'd have got through half a library by now - and I'm an old biddy!

This made me laugh! you're very right.

The average reading speed for a child in primary school is 200 words per minute, so to be be generous, I'll use this figure. If there are 30 detectives, the size of a murder squad working on this case that would equal 6000 words per minute. The average working day is 7.5 hours so that equals 450 minutes in a day. 6000 multiplied by 450 equals 2,700,000 which equals 2 million 700 thousand words a day by the officers. I'll be kind and just allocate 1 out of the 5 days a week to reading, so Monday: Following up leads, Tuesday: interviewing people, Wednesday: writing up information, Thursday Meetings, Friday: Reading. 365 days a year subtract weekends/bank holidays equals 252 working days. I'll even allow then 32 days annual leave a year (being generous) so subtract that will equal 220 days in a year.

220 multiplied by 2,700,000 equals 594,000,000 words read from may 2011 (the start of operation grange) to May 2012. + 3 extra months to get where we are now... 148,500,000 + 594,000,000 = 742,500,000

Seven hundred and forty-two million five hundred thousand words.

according to The official case file released to the public it comprises 11,223 pages of documents in four parts: 25-50 lines per page with 35 words per line as the average (I'll use 35 lines as a rough average) = 1225 a page.

1225 words multiplied by 11,223 = 13748175 which means that they could have read the files over 54 times now.

according to google there re 774,746 words in the bible, no idea how much Kate's book has so I'll use this figure as I assume there will be more. If we say that the police only read over the files 27 times, at the same time they could have read Kates book to cross reference it 479 times.

And with all my figures I have been very very conservative!!! Talking of which, I will write to my local ones (Inc the lib dems) via www.writetothem.com to express my support for the continued funding of this case. With all that possible time spend reading... they really can't be that still on the 'abduction theory' ! they must be looking at the holes now!

Excellent maths and figures Loopdaloop. They must indeed be leaving no stone unturned for black holes to fill the gaping voids in the McCann's accounts of what happened to Madeleine...