Monday, February 20, 2017

It appears some of the Pizzagate pedos are trying to run a disqualify-and-discredit game on Milo by claiming that he is one of them. Notice all the weasel words and unfounded assertions with which they are surrounding their accusatory non-accusations:

Milo Yiannopoulos appears to speak fondly of pedophilia in video

Alt-Right Creep Milo Under Fire For Seemingly Defending Pedophilia

CPAC Blasted for Milo Invite Following Pedophilia Remarks

CPAC under pressure to cancel Milo speech after pedophilia defense.

Appears. Seemingly. Remarks. Now, I am entirely confident that Milo will absolutely welcome a serious investigation into pedophilia in the media and in the inner circles of power. But will those now affecting to criticize him? Unlike the former Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert, Milo has openly criticized pedophiles. He has publicly said - in the very video where he was supposedly "defending pedophilia" - said that the age of consent of 16 is "about right".

Milo's direct statement could not possibly be more clear on the subject. Unlike Salon and anti-GG, he has never defended pedophiles. Quite the contrary, as a matter of fact.

I do not support pedophilia. Period. It is a vile and disgusting crime, perhaps the very worst....

I have outed THREE pedophiles in my career as a journalist. That's three more than any of my critics and a peculiar strategy for a supposed pedophile apologist.

(b) Nicholas Nyberg, anti-GamerGate activist who self-described as a pedophile and white nationalist

(c) Chris Leydon, a London photographer who has a rape trial starting March 13 thanks to my reporting.

I have never defended and would never defend child abusers, as my reporting history shows. The world is messy and complicated, and I recognize it as such, as this furore demonstrates. But that is a red line for any decent person.

I don't know if it is primarily Never-Trumpers who are enraged by the news of the CPAC invite or Pizzagaters who are attempting to discredit another high-profile figure who aware of them, but either way, it is obvious that this is a media hit campaign similar to those we've seen before in #GamerGate. UPDATE: it's apparently the latter. The Never-Trumpers are just jumping on board.

Strange, is it not, that the media is suddenly willing to pay so much attention to a single non-defense of pedophilia while it continues to ignore all of the smoke that is billowing from Hillary Clinton's circle, including Anthony Weiner, the Podesta brothers, David Brock, and other shady figures? Remember, they created "fake news" specifically in order to avoid having to address Pizzagate.

I absolutely agree that pedophilia is evil and I will go further in saying that it has absolutely no mitigating elements whatsoever. And that is precisely why every media organization should be delving deeply into Pizzagate. Milo is no more a pedo than the crisis actor who "attacked" Comet Pizza was a genuine right-wing religious nut.

According to Townhall editor and frequent Fox News contributor Guy Benson, controversial Breitbart editor Milo Yiannopoulos has been disinvited from speaking at the upcoming Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in DC, a report that was quickly confirmed by the ACU Chair.

And that's why you never, ever, rely upon moderates or conservatives. They will NEVER have your back when the Left starts shooting at you.

UPDATE: In his Periscope, Mike Cernovich predicted that they'd be putting pressure on Breitbart to eject Milo next. The irony is that some of the pressure is coming from Salon, which actually has defended pedophiles, as has National Review.

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The edited Video hit-piece is from David Brock's group of paid-media shills. So it's a left-wing started hit, but at someone put it on twitter: The Cuck-Left and Cuck-Right have gotten together to attack a Gay Jew. (What is this timeline?)

The important part about Brock, aside from being gay, is that his former butt-buddy just so happens to own Comet Ping Pong. This is not a joke. Brock also has had to pay people hush money over tax issues. That's why I called it a projection play. Jake Tapper also seemed really quick to jump on the hate-train.

He has publicly said - in the very video where he was supposedly "defending pedophilia" - said that the age of consent of 16 is "about right".

There are also mental defectives who consider being attracted to a 17-year-old girl to be the same thing as being attracted to a child. I guess because the age of consent is set at 18 where they live. Or something.

I am not sure I fully trust the FBI. I think it should be a special prosecutor, with an open ended mandate to pursue pedophiles in Government, media, and academia as well as any other power center with a material pedophile presence. Including, if necessary, the CIA, FBI and DOJ and its prosecutors itself.

It seems obvious (Epstein etc) that pedophiles have been treated very gently and deferentially by our system of Justice. There are problems there that need to be rooted out.

Agree and Amplify might work. Demand to be investigated by the FBI, be found clean, then turn it back on the figureheads and those in power. Anyone who refuses...

SJW's and progs are playing with fire here, as the pedo accusation is the worst thing. #cuckservatives will flee before it, but anyone who passes through the fire can act as High Inquisitor; there will be no shelter for the SJW or progressive.

Milo as High Inquisitor. Now that's a meme! #StampoutHeresy #Inquisition

As soon as President Trump agrees and amplifies, they always flip flop and decry wasting time and taxpayer dollars on superfluous activities rather than on what's important despite President Trump repeatedly demonstrating that he can not only walk and chew gum at the same time he can walk, talk, chew gum, juggle chain saws, keep a soccer ball in play with his feet and impart anguish to the point of discombobulation on his opposition all at the same time...and this is my run-on sentence for the day.

Milo's comments were pretty creepy, although of course not nearly as bad as what is being represented. They don't surprise me, though, because :

1. It's a pretty common occurrence for a grown man to joke about and/or rationalize the abuse they suffered as a kid.

2. Pedastry is a fairly common topic of debate and discussion amongst gay men.

3. Milo's whole public persona is that of a degenerate gay dude who makes no claims to sexual temperance. That's a huge part of his popularity.

If CPAC wants to remain a relevant part of the body politic, they should grow a pair and not rescind the invite. By all means challenge and debate him on whatever parts of his beliefs are lousy, but don't blacklist one of the most exciting and effective right-wing voices in the world. If CPAC does cave, in 10 years they'll be irrelevant. There's simply no market out there for their lukewarm brand small-government 20th century conservatism.

As most people here now know, conservatives obsessed with the Buckley-ite practice of "writing out" people of the movement no longer have that ability. They only write themselves out.

Pedophilia is vile. The natural reaction by any healthy, well-adjusted person is a visceral disgust. If pedophiles are going unprosecuted, or pedophile rings are being ignored, it's because the practice and the people involved in it are being protected at high levels.

Didn't CPAC go full pro-gay almost a decade back? I remember them excluding several traditional conservative groups for being insufficiently pro-gay. It was when Ann Coulter was passing herself off as the Judy Garland of the right. CPAC should just hurry up and disband; does anybody trust the ACU label anymore?

#16 - Nope. I am old enough to remember how all of the media outlets in suspicious unison trotted out this term 'fake news' to explain this one election outcome that they didn't like. That was way back in '16, if memory serves, when I wore a younger man's shoes.

The smear is intentionally conflating what he said about consensual sex with underage but sexually mature teenagers with pedophilia which is sex with pre-pubescent children. There is a world of difference. Suddenly all of the principled conservatives have lost their dictionaries. Strange that.

Also, there's a large overlap of hypocrites between those repeating the lies and those who support Muslim and Hispanic immigration. I.e. they want to bring people in who have zero qualms about sex with 14 YO's or younger. Mindless virtue signaling.

The Hill is reporting that Milo was disinvited. Additionally, @ReaganBattalion, according to Gateway Pundit, dropped this story. According to Gateway, Reagan Battalion is counted among the Never Trumpers.

This reminds me of the PussyGate tape that was leaked by Dan Senor, a former Romney adviser. If you remember, Romney was among the first to denounce Trump and, thereafter, a cascade of Cucks and Neo-Cons started piling on.

Will the President- and VP Pence- still go to CPAC? I was surprised they would go to a gathering of Never Trumpers in the first place, but in the face of yet another gutless cave? I disagree with RomanCandle only in that CPAC is irrelevant now, and no one in the Trump administration should be trying to lend them legitimacy.

The smear is intentionally conflating what he said about consensual sex with underage but sexually mature teenagers with pedophilia which is sex with pre-pubescent children. There is a world of difference. Suddenly all of the principled conservatives have lost their dictionaries. Strange that.

I have never been a big conspiracy advocate, but there is something fishy on the Pedo island an Pizzagate. Specifically:

1) the press tells us there is nothing to the Pizzagate story before there is any investigation. How different that is to how they want to investigate Gen Flynn. Something does not add up.

2) Pedo island/ Epstein was reported on in some depth on the UK site Daily mail....Yet no US outlet would pick it up or discuss it. Go ahead check that, you will find daily mail and right wing blogs ...nothing more.

3) President Clinton went to Pedo island, and took overseas flights with underage girls where he dropped the secret security protection squad. No interest by the Media.

4) Senator Menendez of NJ was implicated in an underage prostitute scandal in the Dominican republic. Then the girls withdrew there charges. Once again no interest by the media I perhaps pressure was brought to bear.

5) A number of kids form Haiti are alleged to have disappeared/been removed form the island by associates of the Clintons, yet there in no interest in this story by the press.

6) The Norway arrests of a Pedo ring have no coverage in the US.

7) The California arrests of 474 folks and the freeing of 55 underage kids has no interest to the press. One day cycle and no additional coverage.

I really, really hope that AG Session goes after these folks. Make them talk. Root out this stuff.

So, Milo was disinvited by... uhhh... who again? For a brief moment I could remember, but... ummm... gee... can't seem to think of anything to distinguish them... Oh! Right! Milo disinvited by those people whose sole distinguishing characteristic is that they disinvited Milo!

I mean, what else have they done for me lately? Something something couldn't conserve men staying in the men's room?

There's only one thing to be done: every person must make a list of everything they believe, to be cross-referenced with every other person on earth and cataloged in an international Disavowal Database before any sort of human interaction can take place! It is the only way to ensure Muh Principles remain pristine and above any possible reproach.

Seriously, this is so dumb. Even if Milo thought the legal AOC is too high, changing age of consent laws is not on the table anywhere. They vary by a few years across states in the U.S. anyway, which shows they aren't some totally objective standard all decent humans agree on. Meanwhile parts of Mexico set AOC at 12, but let's not talk about that, that would be racist.

After decades of campaigning by political gays to convince the hetero world that gays are just like straights, I appreciate Milo and others who are willing to say "Yeah, no, actually, we deviate pretty substantially from straights."

The Never-Trumpers have consistently been saying things like " I hate Milo's views but defend his right to speech" while never getting around to what exactly they hate about his views. Now they have snatched on this edited set of videos/audio. Brock might have supplied the tapes but the Never-trumpers carried their water for them. It should be more and more clear to everyone that the Never-Trumpers are on the same team as the Progressives/Globalists.

The Milo lynch mob are a bunch of deceitful hypocrites, but that doesn't mean Milo should be given the conservative megaphone, even as corrupted and impotent as that instrument has become. Let him continue doing what he does best - confounding liberals on their own turf.

But normalizing homosexual pederasty should be plenty enough to get you bounced from CPAC.

Kinda makes you wonder if this was all planned in advance, and I'm talking about Milo's invitation to speak a CPAC too. That was the plan, invite Milo to speak at CPAC, release this fake news story, revoke Milo's invitation. It's all been coreographed.

Richard Spencer attacking Milo last night via twitter was disappointing. He appeared disappointed that no one defended him after Hailgate. He should've kept his mouth shut, getting rid of Milo only gets rid of another bridge between the alt-right and the alt-lite. The left collects another scalp after a brutal year for them; "If CPAC can dis-invite him, we can too."

J A Baker wrote:Kinda makes you wonder if this was all planned in advance, and I'm talking about Milo's invitation to speak a CPAC too. That was the plan, invite Milo to speak at CPAC, release this fake news story, revoke Milo's invitation. It's all been coreographed.

Timing of it is convenient. Milo got his big stage after the Berkley riots. Then he goes onto Mahrs show this weekend and more of an audience sees him. Now, all the sudden this turn of events right when his star is rising.

I remember one of Milo's events in which he said he was about to discuss PizzaGate but, according to him, he received a call with Washington, D.C. area code telling him to not speak on it yet.

If it is true that David Brock was involved in this leak then I think it appropriate to entertain the idea that the PizzaGate pedos attempted to neutralize an influential voice. Milo has a platform and he uses it like a weapon. If he speaks on PizzaGate folks would have listened but no longer. He'll be seen as a pedophile accusing other people of being a pedophile and this would be seen as hypocritical.

Yes, let's not forget that Milo is a perv, an epithet I'd expect him to embrace.

I'm okay with him going commando (har har) behind enemy lines, but giving him the mantle of conservative leadership (I don't care how tattered and flea-bitten and soiled with cuckservative cowardice it is) is absurd.

You could make a strong case for Trump as a conservative leader. Numerous moral failings of course, but a true patriarch with pretty straightforward conservative desires (returning America to the 50's - economically and demographically, if not totally culturally).

Milo is no such thing. Overt, flamboyant gayness is always going to be a bridge too far for conservatives - too many willfully, gleefully destructive elements.

1. Bill Maher panders to a left-leaning audience, so even if he tries to be impartial, he definitely won't be pushing Milo's views too strongly.2. Milo is media-savvy and smart enough to know the risks of going on a show like that.3. With twitter expelling him, and Milo still hasn't gone away, the legacy media is now gearing it up a level. Very similar to pewdiepie.

Rest assured, this WILL backfire. People are just too aware now. I'm seeing guys in their 40s red-pilling the media.

Imagine what the young ones are thinking of us old people and the mess we created.

I'm not defending CPAC as it is, just what it symbolizes. As many reasons as Vox has to pillory "conservatism" as a non-ideology, there are some things it still stands for to a good number of us, hetero normativity being one of them.

The pedophilia smear is evidently just that, but pederasty is a pretty big deal too and Milo is clearly very open to it. That doesn't make him unusual among gay men, but it does make him deeply inappropriate for any entity that at least nominally stands for family values.

Milo revels in sexual chaos among the "sexually mature" - that's antithetical to a Christian civilization.

26. Elocutioner "The smear is intentionally conflating what he said about consensual sex with underage but sexually mature teenagers with pedophilia which is sex with pre-pubescent children. There is a world of difference. Suddenly all of the principled conservatives have lost their dictionaries. Strange that."

Milo knows pederasty is not the same thing as pedophilia, which is why he's careful to use the latter word to distract you. Queers in the Catholic Church pulled the same sleight-of-hand with the Jay Report statistics; they trumpeted stats showing comparable numbers of male-on-male and male-on-female pedophilia cases, but they lied by omitting the numbers showing the overwhelming majority of abuse cases (75+%) were male-on-post-pubescent-male. They attacked pedophilia to misdirect away from pederasty by the homosexual mafia in the clergy.

This notion that we now have to accept pederasty as part of the Alt-West we are defending, because Milo is a supposed ally, is Pyrrhic victory even if we win. Just throw the sodomite overboard already.

This is what I heard Milo saying, including the interview with Rogan: He abhors pedophilia and wants to see pedos brought to justice. However, he doesn't want to publicly accuse some men who molested him when he was a teen, because he still has complicated feelings about that, including the feeling that he shares in the responsibility for it.

Some will say that's hypocritical, but it's also very common for abuse victims to feel that way. Milo's not applying to head up the Pedo Prosecution Police; he's just talking about the problem from his perspective. As such, he seems pretty qualified.

One thing he shows is that those who say, "It's premature to investigate such-and-such a case because no victims have come forward," are fools or part of a cover-up. It's normal for victims to keep quiet until the perps are caught, or much longer. If he wakes some people up to that, it's a good thing.

The thing I don't understand is how Milo got invited to CPAC in the first place. How did the person who invited him think that he would ever be allowed on their stage? If it hadn't been this, it would have been something else.

I think its more than that. his disinvitation is because he is a genuine freak. he takes black in the pooter. even though he is a formidable speaker and very intelligent, the first thing that comes to mind, which blocks out all other thoughts, is big black dick in a white male asshole. that's why he was disinvited. the first rule of politics is sexual normalcy. the missionary position. sure, gays and lesbos can and do get elected to office. but not until they fully comport with Victorian sexual norms.

He's homosexual, chances are the he's either pedo himself or has been molested by one as a youth.We all now know that they'll milk this to no end, just like everything else related to him, and it serves us right for standing by manipulative degenerate like him. man's a liability, always was, always will be, and they couldn't ask for a better enemy.

@59The thing I don't understand is how Milo got invited to CPAC in the first place.

Someone trolled CPAC? A lot of people over 40 or living in the conservative bubble would not know who he is, slipping his name onto a short list could be done.

It's a few years late for anyone to complain about "family values at CPAC" being damaged by a homosexual speaker, given David Brock's involvement. How many CPAC leaders said anything about Dennis Hastert? This is all quite hypocritical, frankly.

Now, let us all pray for Milo to give up his disordered life. Seriously.

And now DeRay McKesson is Tweeting his characteristically dumb shit: "I look forward to reading the apologies to the Berkeley protestors who blocked the Breitbart reporter from speaking now that CPAC did, too."

@36 Realize that they've spent the last 30 years making Rape the most "horrible crime imaginable!" (let's ignore outright Torture and Murder, as they're for both of them; that Abortion pushing comes with moral costs), so the more horrible version is raping a child. And since the "Accusation is the Conviction", the hint of it will ruin them, since everyone is going to believe it anyone. You don't have to look at too many on the Left and think, "yeah, I can see them being a child rapist".

Though the Sen. Menendez story got dropped as it seemed a lot like an Intelligence Service hit. (Or maybe an unsuccessful one, which is why the story vanished. He's still up on Corruption charges, trial this year in Federal Court.)

@41 Possible. The entire news cycle was done on a Sunday, which if you're trying to hit chunks of the Right, is just a bad time to do it. They wouldn't check in until Monday, by which time Milo was already ahead of the news.

@61 Didn't you get the memo that you can't be a conservative if you don't love gays, foreign wars and inviting Muslims to rape your wife & children?

Don't make the same mistake that the Cucks automatically make. Viewing someone as an ally is not even a tactic endorsement of their entire world view.

@41, I had that thought too. It's hard to believe someone in charge of speakers at CPAC really thought Milo would ever be allowed on that stage. But by setting him up for a loud disinvite, CPAC gets some much-needed publicity for a defunct organization everyone already forgot about, and the Left/NeverTrump get to take a shot at someone they hate. Could be.

Niceee, looks like Breitbart will be ridding themselves of this fake. How long until he becomes ultra-SJWs? Though, not even SJWs would steep so low as to admit him in their midst after all he has done and said.

I am thinking this is wishful thinking on his part of someone else at breitbart that wants to get rid of Milo. Breitbart has been riding Milo's rise for months. He is featured on their main page pretty much daily. It is going to be hard to distance themselves from him and it would alienate his fans. Any of their readers who are going to quit their site over this are not going to come back just because they get rid of him. Further if they do get rid of him they are going to lose readers for doing so. Sacking him is a no win for them.

Of course, with the (((Failbook))) and its shitty algorithms, first I hear of this is from Never Trumper cuck-extraordinaire Matt Walsh (which reminds me, need to stop following his dumb ass).

Then I see a post from Ambassador Alan Keyes, whom I respect, decrying that CPAC is no longer "conservative". Uh, news flash, Ambassador: "conservative" is not what you think anymore, and I owe that clarification to VD.

Unfortunately, Milo's already been ensnared by the trap with his comments and his attempts to clarify them. The damage is already done, but the problem for those that are truly being hypocritical about their approach to him (whether it be the ACU, other folks at CPAC, or those on the Never Trump sideline) is that he just drew ALL of them out into the open. It may be a bit of a strategic misstep on his part, but it's more than likely something that needed to happen, especially in light of some of the other news mentioned here in this thread.

I mean, seriously, for someone that I've heard mention that he'd like to be at some point NOT gay, the projection from nay-sayers is a little TOO fierce.

Enough Concern Trolls out in force on the topic and the timing looks tailored made not for the outside-DC types. Looks like we've got ourselves a well planned Media hit.

Also, to Sam's points: yeah, a gay Man is a sexual deviant. It's not high on the priority list right now. We've got a civilization to save. We can put the gays back in the closet after removing the people that want to murder them on a whim.

There are perhaps some legitimate questions here worth answering as to why Milo should be supported.

First is that this largely isn't news. Milo being gay isn't news, nor the things that tend to go with that. Anyone claiming otherwise is being disingenuous.

Second, this is transparently a political hatchet job which should not be blindly followed.

But third and most subtly, this is one of the tools that the consensus establishment has been using to neuter conservatives for the last few decades. Your establishment-coevolved job as a conservative is to be nearly oblivious to the manifold sins of the left, raising only token objections to people drenched in slime, but to squeal bloody murder and have a massive virtue-signalling attack of the vapors as soon as the left flings a bit of diluted poo at someone on the right. The right is them supposed to finish out their part of the script by having a vigorous crossfire amongst themselves for almost no effort from the left.

At the very least, it would behoove the "conservatives" to stop playing their left-assigned role in this drama for once, and not fall obediently into line just because the left whistled once. As I said, this is mostly not news. I already wouldn't have let Milo hang out alone with my kids.

Go ahead and denounce the behavior of Milo if you like, but hanging him out to dry because your nominal enemies basically told you to? Well, that's why we have Milo in the first place, in a lot of ways.

Sodomites are, by nature, subversive, and so why is there shock that Milo is subversive? It was a huge mistake (as I have written in here before) to let him become the spokesperson of any organisation.

Let a sodomite become an accepted member of any organisation and that organisation will soon experience subversive attempts to normalise sodomy and to dismantle/subvert any moral strictures against it still publicly visible in that organisation.

Real men are uncomfortable around sodomites, especially the flamboyantly effeminate ones, and he was a very real drag (yeah, I know) on the movement.

When I saw the title my first thought was "The Evil Dark Lord is proposing an ancient punishment, using a catapult or trebuchet and a rocky field, kind of a reverse stoning" but no, it's some psychology thingamabob.

(Speaking of psychology, a recent working paper by Szucs & Ioanides showed that pretty much all academic paper in psychology for several decades are complete bovine feces, using their own data. What a surprise.)

How far things have fallen that a man who openly brags about banging loads of black men, and DOES speak "fondly" of sucking the dick of Father Michael at the age of 14, should be seen as a poster-boy for this new conservatism.

He at no point in that video says he was abused. He's backtracking now to protect his career. He DOES believe that 14 year olds can consent to fellatio with adult males, but he can't admit that so is now lieing about the whole thing to save himself.

The problem with the West is the normalization and now celebration of all things deviant. Weeding out SJW's and gammas also means weeding out gay culture. Tolerance means letting it have a space, in grimy back clubs, not as scout leaders, pillars of the community, or spokesmen for higher ideals like free speech.

Agree on that point. Only time I see Breitbart pushing Milo these days is if he's stirring something up. Granted, this situation does draw that in a negative light (for some), but there's probably some end here that somebody in the whole mess miscalculated on. I'm sure of it.

Amateur Brain Surgeon wrote:Sodomites are, by nature, subversive, and so why is there shock that Milo is subversive? It was a huge mistake (as I have written in here before) to let him become the spokesperson of any organisation.

Let a sodomite become an accepted member of any organisation and that organisation will soon experience subversive attempts to normalise sodomy and to dismantle/subvert any moral strictures against it still publicly visible in that organisation.

Real men are uncomfortable around sodomites, especially the flamboyantly effeminate ones, and he was a very real drag (yeah, I know) on the movement.

This.

I actually suspect that Milo might have been a plant from the very beginning, even though that might sound tin-foily right now. Future will prove whether or not I was correct.

Right now, I am glad to see that winds have changed, and that there is no generic, thoughtless apologia for him here. Time to get rid of him, so that we can already start fixing the damage he has done.

Showing ambivalence to something that should have a strong reaction is what gets him into this mess. Since he is on this publicity tour longer than anyone else, only he can save himself from the blowback. The reaction from CPAC is plainly ridiculous. CPAC is saying the response from Milo on Facebook is insufficient. Huh? Milo quite sufficiently clarified his words and position. Nothing more can be said without groveling, which he shouldn't do. CPAC hasn't help themselves and I wonder what's the point about it. Nonetheless, Trump will be speaking there and this will be remarkable.

The hell is wrong with you folks? You behave as if these last few years never happened, as if you've learned shit all. They went full Rules for Radicals on him, and you all are ready to go merrily along. And all that with this charge being your breaking point, no matter that you are shown that it is BS, no matter that it comes from those who tried to normalize pederasty for decades now.Sheep, sheep deserve their fate.

Is there any evidence of this Pizzagate thing? Give me your strongest piece of evidence, and it better not be a logo on a menu. Then explain why this isn't a total embarrassment for the people who have been pushing this. Don't bring any weak sauce like "isn't it strange." These are serious allegations against real people, I assume the accusers have very good evidence.

Looking Glass wrote:@86 They spent 1.2 Billion and Hillary never went to Wisconsin in the General. I'm surprised they found that much for $250k of consultant fees. And it still took heavy editing.

But the main thing was the coordination among the #CuckRight, who I've yet to see denounce Dennis Hastert.

It's clear that this was coordinated. $250K to find the information, edit the tapes and then coordinate the timing and coverage by the various Cuck organizations and pay concern trolls. Seems like 250K would be about right. These "publicists" tend to charge large dollar figures for those sorts of things.

There no need for them to spend anything for investigating his or for fabricating charges as some here claim. Milo is offering them more than enough from the get go, openly and publicly.We can only blame ourselves for supporting him for so long.

andrewknorr wrote:Is there any evidence of this Pizzagate thing? Give me your strongest piece of evidence, and it better not be a logo on a menu. Then explain why this isn't a total embarrassment for the people who have been pushing this. Don't bring any weak sauce like "isn't it strange." These are serious allegations against real people, I assume the accusers have very good evidence.

There ain't any. it was the false flag to make our side look bad, if it was anything. And we have bitten, just like with milo.

I agree, Milo is a degenerate, but he is _our_ degenerate. I'm not surprised in the least most of the comment section has cucked out. Don't get me wrong, I've done my fair share of criticism of Milo, just like with Spencer or Cernovich, or Anglin or even Vox himself.

Doesn't matter, shoot to the Left. Stand by your allies. We either hang together or hang seperately.

"And that's why you never, ever, rely upon moderates or conservatives. They will NEVER have your back when the Left starts shooting at you."

The best way to defend him, from a Scott Adams-style "master persuader 4d chess" point of view? It won't be easy, but here are my thoughts:

I think we concede that it was really gross, correct the exaggerations and falsehoods, and mostly emphasize that the creepiness was an unfortunate reaction to Mio's own abuse he suffered as a child.

In other words, we're going to show empathy and give a second chance to a guy who is struggling to deal with the aftermath of child sexual abuse. And, by the way, why the hell are you demanding that a rape victim be perfect?

andrewknorr wrote:Is there any evidence of this Pizzagate thing? Give me your strongest piece of evidence, and it better not be a logo on a menu. Then explain why this isn't a total embarrassment for the people who have been pushing this. Don't bring any weak sauce like "isn't it strange." These are serious allegations against real people, I assume the accusers have very good evidence.

I had the rare experience in my psych internship years of working in a program designed to keep adult male-with-underage male sex offenders from re-offending. It was at times a deeply uncomfortable one. But it forced/enabled me to have clinical conversations about the range of interactions involved, which ran from horrifying abuse of pre-pubescent children to inadvertent stupidity with curious 16-year olds. All lumped together as "pedophilia." Public conversations about this, as with abortion, for example, are impossible to have.

Exactly. We must hang together or we will - undoubtedly - hang alone. Personally I find Milos lifestyle to be disgusting. However, this is nothing short of a character assasination being done on the guy with the goal of negating his platform and causing rifts.We need to cover his back. He's an ally - warts and all.

Yes, indeed. You either understand loyalty, or you're not worth a damn.

Quite apart from the issue of how fucking idiotic you have to be to (A) not recognise this obvious hit job for what it is, and (B) go stark raving mad trying to be first and worst to throw your ally under the fake news bus, you still ought to have some sense of loyalty.

But fuck it, it's good that you've outed yourselves here. Always useful to know for certain who cannot be relied upon.

Instead of doubling down on Pizzagate, it might make more sense to quietly walk and pretend the whole embarrassing episode never happened. And to the charge of concern trolling, that would imply concern. It's more just trolling.

@119If the left had wanted to place a plant in the Trump movement, they could have hardly came up with a better one than Milo.

You mean a guy who has done more than any one individual to left-wing orthodoxy toxic to the young generation? Whose out there is going to take his place if he goes? Some 21-year old Ann Coulter wannabe? Ben fucking Shapiro?

Even if Milo is some sort of SJW sleeper agent (highly unlikely) or just a narcissist with no real political beliefs (plausible), I don't care. Because even if he is a phony, he's done so much for our side that it doesn't really matter if he is the real deal or not.

andrewknorr wrote:Instead of doubling down on Pizzagate, it might make more sense to quietly walk and pretend the whole embarrassing episode never happened. And to the charge of concern trolling, that would imply concern. It's more just trolling.

I am sure you would like it if that story would just disappear. How do you like your Haitian pizza?

@craig "Milo knows pederasty is not the same thing as pedophilia, which is why he's careful to use the latter word to distract you."

Well, that's not the charge, is it? He's being smeared as a pedophile. That's specific. And actionable.

His sex life is abhorrent as are some of his views, but he's not out there advocating them or trying to get consent laws changed, he's out there exposing the left and how pathetic and useless conservatism has been. And that's why this was done.

This is a political hit job against an effective warrior. I'll choose the deviant homo shooting our enemies over a convention of virtue signaling cucks every day of the week. All I've ever gotten from the latter is sanctimonious blather and trannies in the little girls room.

Milo's been there covering our battles for 2 1/2 years. He's not one of us but he's a friend and he's an ally. Fuck the left. And fuck the NeverTrumpers.

Totally implausible to me. I think Milo is very similar to Ann Coulter, just he has a much darker vice. He was always fatally compromised.

A Christian can generally look the other way for hetero sexual misadventures - the Bible is loaded with heroes compromised by lust and license. But homosexuality has always been a bridge too far. It is never tolerated, always condemned and in the strongest terms.

And Milo's frankness on prevailing gay opinion indicates one of the reasons why.

@81 Sodomites are, by nature, subversive, and so why is there shock that Milo is subversive? It was a huge mistake (as I have written in here before) to let him become the spokesperson of any organisation.

The Alt-lite isn't an organization. Milo speaks for Milo. And the reason I respect him is he calls his own homosexuality a disorder (an observation, not an insult).

Maybe that priests wear black explains Milo's preference.

But to your general point, Gays were a proto-SJW so would always try to converge an organization.

Here's the problem: we live in a society full to the brim of people with low attention spans, and we've been conditioned to be this way. So, headlines and short tweets are all that inform a majority of the public. I mean, that's the reason tweets are only 150 or so characters. So here's Milo's problem, and it happens all the time with hit pieces like this: it's very easy to tangle a bunch or rope up into a dozen or so knots, it takes no time at all, but untying the knots takes a lot of time, and in our low info low attention span society, most people won't take the time to untangle the knots, mostly because 1, they're lazy, and 2, they don't have the mental capacity.

We are over the target. The Cucks and shitlibs are projecting....HARD. they are taking the damaged perspective of a man who was _raped_ from the age of 13 on by several different men as their ammunition. It is _no_ different than their constant attempts to associate us with Hitler.

It's gonna destroy them. They have no clue the traps they've just willing created for themselves and happily jumped in.

I read the wordpress Pizzagate site. Actually, I got stuck at the first piece of evidence, the handkerchief and the argument that "this must be code, it can't possibly be anything else." OK, that's an argument. How likely is it to be code. Without looking at the specific case, the baseline likelihood of any email to be written in code is very small. Let's say 1/1000. So it would be very very unlikely for this to be code, going by the baseline. That's a weak basis on which to build a conspiracy theory. I don't need to read any more than that, but I will leave you with this.

There is a logic to Cernovich's claims. I think it entirely plausible that a coordinated hit job was undertaken. This may sound like a little crazy but the "enemies" are all the same - SJWs, the MSM (Jake Tapper), the globalists/ anti-nationalists, and the cuckservatives. Funny how Anti-Fa has been "blowing up" as of late (the Inauguration, Milos Berkely Speech). It's rumored that Soros is funding them. Soros is a globalist as we all know. And I'm also thinking of the ROK Meetups and the Roosh World Tour. The opposition of those events seemed organized.

And why is DeRay Tweeting about this? He does have a connection to Soros.

Josh (the gayest thing here) wrote:The smear is intentionally conflating what he said about consensual sex with underage but sexually mature teenagers with pedophilia which is sex with pre-pubescent children. There is a world of difference. Suddenly all of the principled conservatives have lost their dictionaries. Strange that.

If you don`t need to read any more than that, then shut up about the topic. If looking at the weakest piece of evidence is enough to make your judgement, you're not serious about it in the first place.

Divide and conquer is the name of this game, and the trolls here are out in force. Hey dumbshits, have any of you realized what Cail Corishev said? All of a sudden several new people show up and ingroup themselves with us. "We need to do something." "We need to get rid of Milo". It couldn't be any more obvious than if it was fucking gift wrapped.

Yes, I despise homosexuals, but I deposit traitors and cuckservatives (but I repeat myself) even more. Pulp your heads out of your asses and get smart.

@139 This is a political hit job against an effective warrior. I'll choose the deviant homo shooting our enemies over a convention of virtue signaling cucks every day of the week. All I've ever gotten from the latter is sanctimonious blather and trannies in the little girls room.

I FWD'ed 2 videos from youtube that was steered to make Milo appear this way, Milo was talking with Joe Rogan and the context was nothing in regards to pedophilia, it was a complete farce against Milo.

Milo is not a pedo, he is great young man that I will defend not that he needs the lessers defending him.

Milo today was insulted at Glenn Beck's show, Beck was off today and not present the team of 3 were and they mocked Milo for nothing - They are mad Milo has a $300 million dollar deal and all they have is a failed narrative and...Ben Shapiro.

While the MSM and the "really fake media" per POTUS Trump mock Pizzagate.

idiots who keep defending his: what exactly is it that you standing for? What is it that you fight for?We have been defending jewish fag with a taste for black sausage, and now we are to defend jewish fag with a taste for black sausage and underaged boys, are we?

Frankly, according to Milo's own words, he thinks age 16 should be the age of consent, and that in some cases, it should be even younger. Those opinions are not defensible in the current legal context.

Personally, I think 18 as the age of consent is ridiculous, and that treating teenagers like children is also ridiculous. But that is a completely different argument. I also think the homosexuals should be purged from society at large, but that is also a different argument.

While I appreciate the desire to show loyalty to Milo, hitching your wagon to a homosexual is ALWAYS a bad decision. ALWAYS.

This is how they win, while ignoring or excusing the misdeeds and filth on their side (left and cuck-right included). CPAC is riddled with homosexuals and pedophiles, and they want you to disavow the one who hurts them.

You're going to to take CPAC seriously, when the Log Cabin Republicans have had a booth there for years now, and CPAC endorses gay marriage?

As much as I like Voris (who recently outed himself last fall), CM's problem is they're still too loyal towards Bergolio, and one of CM's benefactors is extremely anti-SSPX, which also shows up in their content.

Harris wrote:Frankly, according to Milo's own words, he thinks age 16 should be the age of consent, and that in some cases, it should be even younger. Those opinions are not defensible in the current legal context.Don't be absurd. The current legal context is arbitrary, and for centuries, marriage frequently happened to women younger than that throughout Western civilization.

Don't look at the current legal context and assume that it represents some kind of immutable reality. It's just a snapshot in time of what is currently accepted and acceptable. And whether or not anyone can question the current legal context without being tarred as some kind of creep is equally absurd.

It might be startling to some that the US allows for some of the _youngest_ consent laws in the entire world, competing with Muslim countries: In VA (at least through last year) and Mass, girls as young as 12 can still legally marry.

All you have to do is look at the people attacking him. They're the same gang from the campaign, who tried to sell the country out to Hillary because Trump wasn't respectable enough to suit them. (Some are the same people, by the way, we've been told we should welcome onto the Trump Train because they kinda sorta looked like they were "uncucking" themselves. Not so much.)

If Milo were the worst degenerate who ever lived, that still wouldn't be the reason this is happening. It's happening because he's been a thorn in their sides politically. They don't give a damn about whether some molesters from Milo's past are exposed, any more than they gave a damn about Hastert's victims or what might lie behind Pizzagate. They just hate Milo, because they lost and he was loud on the other side.

If they take him down, it won't be a victory for morality or a blow for perverts and pedophiles. It'll be a win for people who are still butthurt from the election, and nothing more positive than that.

"Goise, guise, pedophilia is just a social construct, and our idea of childhood was concocted by victorians... There is nothing wrong with age on consent being reduced to single digits, and there is everything wrong with suppressing natural sexual urges and sexual education of those sweet sexy kids."

Yep, that was a major tell. Anywho, it's telling that as part of their "evidence", Milo's enemies use a combination of obvious jokes (Milo constantly quips about being molested by Catholic priests at appearances and in columns alike) and other statements having nothing to do with pedophilia whatsoever.

If the accounts disparaging here him aren't just enemy shills, do any of you fucking retards not understand this is no different than the God Emperor being called a sexual predator and rapist when those labels were being accurately used to describe Hillary's partner in crime?

Harris wrote:Frankly, according to Milo's own words, he thinks age 16 should be the age of consent, and that in some cases, it should be even younger. Those opinions are not defensible in the current legal context.

The age of consent in England is 16. Milo is a resident of England.

The age of consent for sexual activity in the UK is 16. In England and Wales, the age of sexual consent for women has been set at 16 since 1885, when campaigners fought to raise it from 13 to prevent child prostitution. Other countries have set the legal age at anything from 12 to 20.