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Hi Kathleen,

Hope all is well with you and yours. I wanted to let you know that I finally found Jennie Kerner on a New York census!!

The 1930 census, Brooklyn, Kings County, ED # 1170, page 20A has the following:Jennie Kerner, age 71, head of household, widow, born in NY, father born in England, mother born in ScotlandMae Kerner, daughter, age 31, single, occupation – bookkeeper

Also, for 1930 census, .Brooklyn, Kings County, ED 925, page 15A:Ruffus Creen, age 43, single, occupation – elevator operator, Ruffus was roomer in household of Oliver Orlando (note-according to this census, Rufus was born in NY, father born in Ireland, mother born in Ireland)

Also 1930 census, Brooklyn, Kings County, ED # 1700, NY, page 12B,**Alice T. Kellam, age 55, widow, head of household, born in NY
Albert J. Kellam, son, age 32, born in NY, occupation – salesman at newspaper
***Frank P. Brady, age 38, son-in-law, born in NY, occupation – accountant
Alice Brady, age 38, daughter
Frank Brady, age 8, grandson
Robert E. Griebe, age 33, son-in-law (no occupation listed)
Ethel M. Griebe, daughter, age 30
Robert E. Griebe, Jr, age 3, grandson*Kate Dunnigan, Aunt, age 85, born in Ireland, both parents born in Ireland
(Note that Mary (Dundon) O’Donnell has probably died by the time of the 1930 census)

*Who could this aunt be? I cannot find her in the 1930 index, name could be Danegan, Dennigan, Donnegan, etc.
**I believe this is Alice Fay O’Donnell, the children are the same from 1900 and 1920 census.
***Frank P. Brady is the name listed by ancestry.com in its 1930 index. The actual name on the census looks like Brisly, Brisdy to me?

The Welsh and Irish Celts have been found to be the genetic blood-brothers of Basques, scientists have revealed.The gene patterns of the three races passed down through the male line are all “strikingly similar”, researchers concluded.

Ethnic links: Many races share common bonds

Basques can trace their roots back to the Stone Age and are one of Europe’s most distinct people, fiercely proud of their ancestry and traditions.The research adds to previous studies which have suggested a possible link between the Celts and Basques, dating back tens of thousands of years.

“The project started with our trying to assess whether the Vikings made an important genetic contribution to the population of Orkney,” Professor David Goldstein of University College London (UCL) told BBC News.

‘Statistically indistinguishable’

He and his colleagues looked at Y-chromosomes, passed from father to son, of Celtic and Norwegian populations. They found them to be quite different.

“But we also noticed that there’s something quite striking about the Celtic populations, and that is that there’s not a lot of genetic variation on the Y-chromosome,” he said.

To try to work out where the Celtic population originally came from, the team from UCL, the University of Oxford and the University of California at Davis also looked at Basques.

“On the Y-chromosome the Celtic populations turn out to be statistically indistinguishable from the Basques,” Professor Goldstein said.

Pre-farming Europe

The comparison was made because Basques are thought by most experts to be very similar to the people who lived in Europe before the advent of farming.

Genetic tests have identified key gene groups

“We conclude that both of these populations are reflecting pre-farming Europe,” he said.Professor Goldstein’s team looked at the genetic profiles of 88 individuals from Anglesey, North Wales, 146 from Ireland with Irish Gaelic surnames, and 50 Basques.

“We know of no other study that provides direct evidence of a close relationship in the paternal heritage of the Basque- and the Celtic-speaking populations of Britain,” the team write in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Viking TV

But it is still unclear whether the link is specific to the Celts and the Basques, or whether they are both simply the closest surviving relatives of the early population of Europe.

What is clear is that the Neolithic Celts took women from outside their community. When the scientists looked at female genetic patterns as well, they found evidence of genetic material from northern Europe.

This influence helped even out some of the genetic differences between the Celts and their Northern European neighbours.

The work was carried out in connection with a BBC television programme on the Vikings.

I found some of the information on Balldearg O’Donnell from Vincent
O’Donnells Spring 1986 issue of O’Donnell Abu. Balldearg (Hugh) O’Donnell
had the hereditary mark of the O’Donnell Clann, a red spot (this is what
Balldearg means in Gaelic apparently). Follows is my transcription of
Vincent’s writings from 1986 along with my personal note to him:

“Balldearg” means a red spot about the size of a thumb-print which may be
found on any part of the body but usually on the back. It is recognised as
the hereditary mark of a ‘true’ or ‘real’ O’Donnell. It is often called
“Balldearbhtha na nDalach”, meaning the ‘distinguishing or genuine mark of
the O’Donnells’. In the Rosses area of Donegal, those possessing it are
said to belong to the main line of the Clann. Whie the “Balldearg” is
hereditary to the house of Larkfield, it is not uncommon among Rosses
families.

Although born in Ireland, Hugh went into the Spanish Service at an early age
and was known as ‘Earl of Tyrconnell’ abroad.

At the outbreak of the Williamite wars he desired to return to Ireland but
permission was refused as England was then an ally of Spain. Balldearg,
therefore, left Spain without licence, reaching Cork four days after the
Battle of the Boyne where he met the fleeing King James of Kinsale who
recommended him to Talbot, Lord Lieutenant and Commander-to-Chief. The
Irish immediately rallied to O’Donnell. This alarmed Talbot as he feared
the setting up of an independent command. Talbot, allowing jealousy rather
than common sense to prevail, assigned Balldearg, an experienced soldier to
the menial task of protecting the herds and followers who marched with the
army. With the failure of the Jacobite cause, Balldearg found himslef
without either country or fortune. He was very dissatisifed with the
treatment he received since his return to Ireland. Inducements were handed
out to him by Ginkel. Ballldearg, realising his position and being a
professional soldier, accepted and was given a commission in the English
army later to be followed by a pension. He fought in several campaigners on
the Continent. On where he was apparently pardoned. He re-entered the
Spanish Army and rose to the rank of major General. He died without issue
c. 1703/4.

Note to Vincent O’Donnell: Hello Vincent! I hope you are reading this. I
found this newletter with my father’s things after he passed away. He kept
every single one of your newsletters. I believe there is no better way of
leaving one’s mark on the world than that of the written word.

I read in your most recent newsletter than you will no longer be publishing
the O’Donnell Abu newsletter after the next few issues are out. I for one
am sorry to learn of this. I (and I am sure many others are) am grateful
for your extraordinary efforts over the years and I am proud to have every
issue of your newsletter. It is invaluable to those studying the O’Donnell
family.

Luckily my father kept this issue and had written my name outside a
parenthesis mark he made around Balldearg and his birthmark (is says, “Sue?”
on it). I have a large cluster of red spots on my right upper arm. I have
been often told by the unknowing observer that is looks like someone
“grabbed” be on my arm and left their handprint. It is a large red
birthmark and my mother wanted to have it removed when I was a young girl.
I wasn’t too keen on this idea. I am now glad I didn’t have it removed (it
would be possible in today’s world but I like my red spots!).

MARY HARRIGAN O’DONNELL (a BIG MYSTERY) – My great grandmother. She died four days after her last child was born and the wonder was, why didn’t all four boys die as well? Was it a murder or suicide?
She died a horrid death and it was investigated. An autopsy was performed and the cause of death was asphyxia due to gas poisoning. Details of medical examiner’s report not included. No personal information was provided or known to the county medical examiner. She was buried in a pauper’s grave at the County Farm on Feb 5, 1914 by the Dept. of Public Charities.

I would like to find out more about her family. I have a father as John Harrigan but no mother. Her husband listed no parents! Which is weird as a John Harrigan lived next door or very nearby, but he may not be related-
Children are Edwin, Lester (my grandfather), James, LeRoy.

]]>https://irishhistoryandgenealogy.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/mary-harrigan/feed/0mskathleenKerner Genealogyhttps://irishhistoryandgenealogy.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/kerner-genealogy/
https://irishhistoryandgenealogy.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/kerner-genealogy/#respondMon, 27 Feb 2017 22:10:05 +0000http://irishhistoryandgenealogy.wordpress.com/?p=194Here is the 1880 census of Peter Kerner, you will notice that
Mary, the daughter who was born in 1863/64 so they came after she was
born since she was born in Baden also.

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Source Information:
Census Place New York, New York (Manhattan), New York City-Greater,
New York
Family History Library Film 1254872
NA Film Number T9-0872
Page Number 511D

I have been, of late, reading your O’Donnell’s The very first time you posted, I got the shivers with a sort of faint feeling in my head. The given names in your O’Donnell family line are so similar to mine– –the James O’Donnell, the Michael O’Donnell and even the Aunt Lottie.

My Great Grandfather Michael C. O’Donnell is from Clonmore, County Tipperary born in 1830 . I do not know who his parents were nor do I know who his siblings were…this is a real damper. I believe he immigrated via Liverpool to New York in 1849 but he could just as easily came through Canada & into New York. I say this because several O’Donnells in this family have married women from around Peterboro, Ontario, Canada.

My Great Grandmother was Catherine Jones a daughter of Robert Jones and Briget McCann (this later is questionable as I only found it in one place, albeit the only place.)

Robert Jones was definitely in Peterboro, Canada, at some time. Though I can’t put him there, I can put two of his daughters there. Little is found about Robert Jones or his wife.

The children of Michael C O’Donnell were Mary, John, Thomas, Isabelle, Catherine, Michael, William, Alice, Arthur, Rose, James plus three who died at birth or as infants. I am a great Granddaughter of Michael C. O’Donnell via his son James Aloysius O’Donnell and his daughter (my mother Lenila J O’Donnell).

I get a “kinship” feeling when reading your reports, perhaps, and I hope so, have some relation.

Sincerely,

Sharon More

]]>https://irishhistoryandgenealogy.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/possible-odonnell-relations/feed/0Clan O'Donnell historymskathleenIrish Free States (Republic of Ireland)https://irishhistoryandgenealogy.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/irish-free-states-republic-of-ireland/
https://irishhistoryandgenealogy.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/irish-free-states-republic-of-ireland/#respondMon, 27 Feb 2017 22:01:37 +0000http://irishhistoryandgenealogy.wordpress.com/?p=183In 1922, following the Treaty with Great Britain, Ireland, the island, was partioned.
The six north eastern counties, Antrim, Down, Tyrone, Fermanagh, Derry, and
Armagh, remained under British rule and the remaining 26 counties formed
what was then known as the Irish Free State (Eire ). In 1948, the then
Taoiseach (Prime Minister) John A Costello, declared a Republic, the Republic
of Ireland. Yes Donegal is in the Republic, formerly the Irish Free State.

April 16-1910 Federal Censuscensus Borough of Brooklyn, Kings Cty., New york
renting at 65 Green Street
RUFUS J.CREEN–age 24 b. in New york
both parents born in New York
married 5 years Occupation-Driver/Department Store
wife-LOTTIE–age 23 b. in New York
both parents born in new York
birthed 3 kids-2 living as of 1910
daughter-ISABEL J.–age 4 b. in New York (on her death certificate it is Isabell M.)
son-RUFUS J. Jr.–age 1 year 4 months b. in New York
enumeration district # 365 sheet 3A

157 Meeker Ave – a tenemant with about 6 families
Ruffus J. Creen, 34, Head 2+ (Not sure what 2+ means) Born NY, parents born NY- Driver for Sugar Co.
Charlotte -33, wife born NY, parents born NY
Isabell, 14 School
Rufus 11, School
Jessica 8, School
All can read and write

Rents Home

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1930 Federal Census, Borough of Brooklyn, Kings Cty, NY
Name: Ruffus Creen
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1887 in Brooklyn, NY
Birthplace: New York
Roomer: with Oliver Orlando age 30 who is Italian and works for Edison Co- he is also listed as married
Race: White
Home in 1930: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Occupation: Elevator Operator (Employed)
Education: Can read and write
Military service: blank
Rent/home value: V$5.00
Age at first marriage: 20
Parents’ birthplace: Both born in Ireland
Owned a radio: No (Oliver does)
Image source: Year: 1930; Census Place: Brooklyn, Kings, New York; Roll: 1491; Page: 15A; Enumeration District: 925; Image: 706.0.
They pay $5.00 in rent
He has marital status as Married

Editor’s Note. A couple of errors in the article were corrected pertaining to the 1625 Proclamation under James I.

Global Research will shortly be publishing several articles on the the issue of the Irish Slave Trade.

They came as slaves; vast human cargo transported on tall British ships bound for the Americas. They were shipped by the hundreds of thousands and included men, women, and even the youngest of children.

Whenever they rebelled or even disobeyed an order, they were punished in the harshest ways. Slave owners would hang their human property by their hands and set their hands or feet on fire as one form of punishment. They were burned alive and had their heads placed on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to other captives.

We don’t really need to go through all of the gory details, do we? We know all too well the atrocities of the African slave trade.

But, are we talking about African slavery? King James II and Charles I also led a continued effort to enslave the Irish. Britain’s famed Oliver Cromwell furthered this practice of dehumanizing one’s next door neighbor.

The Irish slave trade began when 30,000 Irish prisoners were sold as slaves to the New World. The King James I Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves.

Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white.

From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain’s solution was to auction them off as well.

During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers.

Many people today will avoid calling the Irish slaves what they truly were: Slaves. They’ll come up with terms like “Indentured Servants” to describe what occurred to the Irish. However, in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish slaves were nothing more than human cattle.

As an example, the African slave trade was just beginning during this same period. It is well recorded that African slaves, not tainted with the stain of the hated Catholic theology and more expensive to purchase, were often treated far better than their Irish counterparts.

African slaves were very expensive during the late 1600s (50 Sterling). Irish slaves came cheap (no more than 5 Sterling). If a planter whipped or branded or beat an Irish slave to death, it was never a crime. A death was a monetary setback, but far cheaper than killing a more expensive African. The English masters quickly began breeding the Irish women for both their own personal pleasure and for greater profit. Children of slaves were themselves slaves, which increased the size of the master’s free workforce. Even if an Irish woman somehow obtained her freedom, her kids would remain slaves of her master. Thus, Irish moms, even with this new found emancipation, would seldom abandon their kids and would remain in servitude.

In time, the English thought of a better way to use these women (in many cases, girls as young as 12) to increase their market share: The settlers began to breed Irish women and girls with African men to produce slaves with a distinct complexion. These new “mulatto” slaves brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African slaves. This practice of interbreeding Irish females with African men went on for several decades and was so widespread that, in 1681, legislation was passed “forbidding the practice of mating Irish slave women to African slave men for the purpose of producing slaves for sale.” In short, it was stopped only because it interfered with the profits of a large slave transport company.

England continued to ship tens of thousands of Irish slaves for more than a century. Records state that, after the 1798 Irish Rebellion, thousands of Irish slaves were sold to both America and Australia. There were horrible abuses of both African and Irish captives. One British ship even dumped 1,302 slaves into the Atlantic Ocean so that the crew would have plenty of food to eat.

There is little question that the Irish experienced the horrors of slavery as much (if not more in the 17th Century) as the Africans did. There is, also, very little question that those brown, tanned faces you witness in your travels to the West Indies are very likely a combination of African and Irish ancestry. In 1839, Britain finally decided on its own to end its participation in Satan’s highway to hell and stopped transporting slaves. While their decision did not stop pirates from doing what they desired, the new law slowly concluded THIS chapter of nightmarish Irish misery.

But, if anyone, black or white, believes that slavery was only an African experience, then they’ve got it completely wrong.

Irish slavery is a subject worth remembering, not erasing from our memories.

But, where are our public (and PRIVATE) schools???? Where are the history books? Why is it so seldom discussed?

Do the memories of hundreds of thousands of Irish victims merit more than a mention from an unknown writer?

Or is their story to be one that their English pirates intended: To (unlike the African book) have the Irish story utterly and completely disappear as if it never happened.

None of the Irish victims ever made it back to their homeland to describe their ordeal. These are the lost slaves; the ones that time and biased history books conveniently forgot.

]]>https://irishhistoryandgenealogy.wordpress.com/2016/09/28/irish-slaves/feed/0mskathleen131076Brother Robin A O’Donnell’s DNA and mine !https://irishhistoryandgenealogy.wordpress.com/2015/09/07/brother-robin-a-odonnells-dna-and-mine/
https://irishhistoryandgenealogy.wordpress.com/2015/09/07/brother-robin-a-odonnells-dna-and-mine/#commentsMon, 07 Sep 2015 23:58:41 +0000http://irishhistoryandgenealogy.wordpress.com/?p=161Haplogroup R1b1b2a1a2f2 and HV (which is of course the same as me and our girl Timoni) – Very interesting!

R1b1b2a1a2f2 reaches its peak in Ireland, where the vast majority of men carry Y-chromosomes belonging to the haplogroup. Researchers have recently discovered that a large subset of men assigned to the haplogroup may be direct male descendants of an Irish king who ruled during the 4th and early 5th centuries. According to Irish history, a king named Niall of the Nine Hostages established the Ui Neill dynasty that ruled the island country for the next millennium.

Northwestern Ireland is said to have been the core of Niall’s kingdom; and that is exactly where men bearing the genetic signature associated with him are most common. About 17% of men in northwestern Ireland have Y-chromosomes that are exact matches to the signature, and another few percent vary from it only slightly. In New York City, a magnet for Irish immigrants during the 19th and early 20th century, 2% of men have Y-chromosomes matching the Ui Neill signature. Genetic analysis suggests that all these men share a common ancestor who lived about 1,700 years ago. Among men living in northwestern Ireland today that date is closer to 1,000 years ago. Those dates neatly bracket the era when Niall is supposed to have reigned.

Outside Ireland, R1b1b2a1a2f2 is relatively common only along the west coast of Britain.

Irish/Basques/British/French

HV (that’s me!)

HV*, a sister of the common European haplogroups H and V, arose in the Near East not long after modern humans left Africa more than 40,000 years ago. From the Near East, the haplogroup appears to have spread into North Africa, Russia, eastern Europe and the Italian peninsula, which has an unusually high concentration of HV*. The largest concentration of HV*, however, appears to be in Iraq. The haplogroup is also common in other regions of the Near East, particularly the Caucasus Mountains. There are four major daughter lineages encompassed within haplogroup HV*, known as HV1, HV2, HV3, and HV4.