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Unitas I believe would be a third-rounder in today's NFL and he didn't stay on the bench long. Brady started his rookie year. He didn't develop on the bench. And I might use a sixth rounder on a qb with a funky college career, like Brady, or Johnson. I would use a sixth rounder ahead of a fourth rounder.

Fair enough. But almost never will you see a qb ride pine for a few years and later win a championship, unless he's a high pick. This is particularly true of the fourth round. There are a scatterling of examples, but that's it.

My point is that a quarterback either has that talent or not and usally fourth-rounders do not. Brady went late, but he had the talent, and was a starter by his second year. Same is true of Montana. There is almost never a long apprenticeship that helps a mid-round pick.

That's the thing, though. Quarterback development is an NFL myth. The idea that you take a quarterback in the fourth round, and if he spends the next four years eating vitamins, studying the playbook, and getting to bed on time he'll lead you eventually to the Super Bowl is a huge NFL myth. Apparently it's a myth our front office believed at one time.

If I used a fourth round pick on a qb, which I absolutely wouldn't, I would expect him to be no more than a backup and no more. A number two if you're lucky. A number three if not. That's what McGee is, essentially.

That's the thing, though. Quarterback development is an NFL myth. The idea that you take a quarterback in the fourth round, and if he spends the next four years eating vitamins, studying the playbook, and getting to bed on time he'll lead you eventually to the Super Bowl is a huge NFL myth. Apparently it's a myth our front office believed at one time.

If I used a fourth round pick on a qb, which I absolutely wouldn't, I would expect him to be no more than a backup and no more. A number two if you're lucky. A number three if not. That's what McGee is, essentially.

Garrett seems like he's going with a hard and fast rule that he's going with 3 QBs at all times. I don't like keeping 3 QBs period when you have a backup as solid as Orton, but if you are going to go that route McGee is fine. First of all he's mobile, so he's a guy who can run the naked boots and roll outs on the scout team for the defense to prepare for RG3 and Vick. Second of all, he's been in the offense years so he doesn't need a lot of hand holding or reps. Finally, he proved in his 2010 start against the Cardinals he can at least makes some plays and give the team at least a chance to win if he absolutely has to play. No 3rd string QB is going to be "good", he's just got to not be Mike Quinn, Babe Laufenberg or Caleb Hanie bad where the offense struggles to get 100 total yards for the game. .

Garrett seems like he's going with a hard and fast rule that he's going with 3 QBs at all times. I don't like keeping 3 QBs period when you have a backup as solid as Orton, but if you are going to go that route McGee is fine. First of all he's mobile, so he's a guy who can run the naked boots and roll outs on the scout team for the defense to prepare for RG3 and Vick. Second of all, he's been in the offense years so he doesn't need a lot of hand holding or reps. Finally, he proved in his 2010 start against the Cardinals he can at least makes some plays and give the team at least a chance to win if he absolutely has to play. No 3rd string QB is going to be "good", he's just got to not be Mike Quinn, Babe Laufenberg or Caleb Hanie bad where the offense struggles to get 100 total yards for the game. .

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I will say this, I have no problem with keeping an extra QB, after all it is the most important position on the field in today's NFL. I do have a problem with McGee the player though, and wonder if he is worth keeping. Jerry did comment that McGee has worth, but I wonder what kinda worth he is talking about cause he hasn't shown the ability to get us a draft pick like other teams have been able to do with their backup QBs.

At this point, the only reason I would want to keep McGee is if he has trade value, problem is I don't see how McGee has any trade value at this point.

I will say this, I have no problem with keeping an extra QB, after all it is the most important position on the field in today's NFL. I do have a problem with McGee the player though, and wonder if he is worth keeping. Jerry did comment that McGee has worth, but I wonder what kinda worth he is talking about cause he hasn't shown the ability to get us a draft pick like other teams have been able to do with their backup QBs.

At this point, the only reason I would want to keep McGee is if he has trade value, problem is I don't see how McGee has any trade value at this point.

Well that is by far my biggest problem with McGee, if he has no trade value then he is totally useless.......just hoping they know more than we do and not letting some team pull their chain into thinking that they are actually interested in McGee.

Rodgers was a first-round pick and top talent, not a fourth-round pick. It's questionable whether grooming was necessary, but he was groomed, I will allow that. But the question is whether fourth-round or mid-round picks have histories of being groomed into championship quarterbacks. I submit that they largely do not.

Brunell was third round?, I think. I might be wrong on that. And while very good, he wasn't elite or a champion.

I should correct myself. Unitas was pick 102, a modern-day fourth rounder. So yes, almost sixty years ago, there was an example. That said, he wasn't groomed. After being cut by Pittsburgh, he became the starter in his rookie year with Baltimore a year later.

I should correct myself. Unitas was pick 102, a modern-day fourth rounder. So yes, almost sixty years ago, there was an example. That said, he wasn't groomed. After being cut by Pittsburgh, he became the starter in his rookie year with Baltimore a year later.

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If you use the word "groomed" one more time, I think you should slap yourself.