Oh I read potential, but its not there... your last paragraph says they are not doing it. Sounds like potential to none, and potential ran out the door, no?

@ Nvidia - Degredation may be real, who knows (I doubt it, Nvidia says its not), but that article, and many others state, from the horse's mouth, no recalls. No does not mean potential... at least it never did in college with my women...haha!

Nvidia Corp. on Monday denied plans to recall GeForce GTX products based on the GK104 graphics processing units due to rumoured eventual performance degradation. The company claims that the rumours are incorrect and the graphics products work fine.

"There is no truth to this," said Bryan Del Rizzo, a spokesman for Nvidia.

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EDIT: We will see if Nvidia is bullshitting...but until then, they said "NO". If they renege, my mouth is big enough to hold my foot!!!

This article/rumor is completely bunk. I have no idea why people give in and spread rumors like this. Misinformation accomplishes absolutely nothing.

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to be fair, some company could get a short term gain from such Bs rumours ,though i dont like to think of companies doing such sullieing it happens..
fingers crossed Nv have this in hand ie they will have data on wear etc as im sure they will have ongoing QA and longevity testing etc so if they need to surely they could prove it.

Nvidia Corp. on Monday denied plans to recall GeForce GTX products based on the GK104 graphics processing units due to rumoured eventual performance degradation. The company claims that the rumours are incorrect and the graphics products work fine.

"There is no truth to this," said Bryan Del Rizzo, a spokesman for Nvidia.

The official for the company declined to provide any further details or colour to the information published earlier on Monday.

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The thread title should read: "(FUD) Nvidia Potential Kepler Recall - This rumor denied by NVidia"

FUD = Fear, uncertainty and doubt is "generally a strategic attempt to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information."

Nvidia Corp. on Monday denied plans to recall GeForce GTX products based on the GK104 graphics processing units due to rumoured eventual performance degradation. The company claims that the rumours are incorrect and the graphics products work fine.

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So according to this rep the Adaptive V-Sync and V-Sync is as it should be. I doubt many Nvidia Kepler consumers think there hardware is working fine.

If it turns out to be true or not. Time will tell but it just adds one more thing to how Kepler has been handeled.

Well if you were Nvidia you could have just addressed both the questions.

Instead he fan the flames by replying to the Recall as un-true but then had no comment on the degradation issue to Kepler. Instead he just made a braud statement that all hardware degradates.

I could have just said, if you use your hardware it wont be as new. Sing me up for the next Nvidia rep job.

So according to this rep the Adaptive V-Sync and V-Sync is as it should be. I doubt many Nvidia Kepler consumers think there hardware is working fine.

If it turns out to be true or not. Time will tell but it just adds one more thing to how Kepler has been handeled.

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What does Vsync have to do with recalls? That is completely separate AFAIK? (sorry, didnt drill down more than 3 levels on your links). I didnt mean to sound so harsh in my replies, but this was bunked before you even posted it.. I, like erocker, hate FUD/misinformation/bullshit and anyone flying a plane and dropping flyers (propoganda) about it.

@ PPD question - It depends on the WU, but around 25k PPD if left alone. 580 level until they come out with a better core for it.

What does Vsync have to do with recalls? That is completely separate AFAIK? (sorry, didnt drill down more than 3 levels on your links). I didnt mean to sound so harsh in my replies, but this was bunked before you even posted it.

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Not saying Adaptive V-Sync or V-Sync has a direct corrilation with the supposed recall. At the same time that statement from the rep was issued on Monday. Nvidia has been testing the V-Sync issue for awhile now. It just seams contradictory.
On one hand it's said to be fine while on the other your testing to resolve issues that were not caught on launch be it hardware or software based. Its yet to be determined.

I get why a company rep wouldnt want to draw unwanted attention to an already troubled roll-out of a product line since there still 3 product left to roll-out. I get that.

Not saying Adaptive V-Sync or V-Sync has a direct corrilation with the supposed recall. At the same time that statement from the rep was issued on Monday. Nvidia has been testing the V-Sync issue for awhile now. It just seams contradictory.
On one hand it's said to be fine while on the other your testing to resolve issues that were not caught on launch be it hardware or software based. Its yet to be determined.

I get why a company rep wouldnt want to draw unwanted attention to an already troubled roll-out of a product line since there still 3 product left to roll-out. I get that.

Well if you were Nvidia you could have just addressed both the questions.

Instead he fan the flames by replying to the Recall as un-true but then had no comment on the degradation issue to Kepler. Instead he just made a braud statement that all hardware degradates.

I could have just said, if you use your hardware it wont be as new. Sing me up for the next Nvidia rep job.

So according to this rep the Adaptive V-Sync and V-Sync is as it should be. I doubt many Nvidia Kepler consumers think there hardware is working fine.

If it turns out to be true or not. Time will tell but it just adds one more thing to how Kepler has been handeled.

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Well, it was probably the first they heard about it and they needed to see if this was true. You are a douche and we know you love ATI and honestly some of us are better than you because we have more going on with our lives than being haters.

I don't care about what you do with your sorry life and honestly I don't really care about Nvidia or ATI, I use whatever I need at the given moment.

Stop being a douche and realize that your precious ATI doesn't matter, look at the bigger picture and understand that people are starving in the world and you get all excited for a company that doesn't really care about you. Life isn't all about you or life isn't all about ATI and there are far more important matters in the world.

When I read your posts, all I see is some stupid fanboy crap that nobody seems to care about but you. At the end of the day people live and love and then they die, it's a natural progression and what you care for now is meaningless.

This is the first time I've heard of "pnosker.com". Is he a Demerjian disciple?

LOL, apparently he is.

I find the this article very weird, when it was established a long time ago by several retailers that the reason behind the "shortage" (in North America at least) for Kepler is that there's significantly more demand for them than the 7950/7970.

Sorry for the rant guys. I am 44 this year and we used to argue about the most stupid things in FidoNet (before the Internet) and on computer BBSes and all of that typing was a waste of time and stupid. None of that even made any difference and fanboys didn't do anything but waste time. My computer is better than your computer is the new my dad can beat up your dad and it's just immature and silly and a waste of time. Just like the green team vs the read team.

Well, it was probably the first they heard about it and they needed to see if this was true. You are a douche and we know you love ATI and honestly some of us are better than you because we have more going on with our lives than being haters.

I don't care about what you do with your sorry life and honestly I don't really care about Nvidia or ATI, I use whatever I need at the given moment.

Stop being a douche and realize that your precious ATI doesn't matter, look at the bigger picture and understand that people are starving in the world and you get all excited for a company that doesn't really care about you. Life isn't all about you or life isn't all about ATI and there are far more important matters in the world.

When I read your posts, all I see is some stupid fanboy crap that nobody seems to care about but you. At the end of the day people live and love and then they die, it's a natural progression and what you care for now is meaningless.