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Have to agree - for all the lightheartedness in the movies, I was hoping for a bit more of the tone of Buffy/Firefly/Angel/Dollhouse where even though there is comedy, wit, and tension balanced between real connection between the characters (even in the pilot of Firefly - just did a rewatch) the shows had an overall seriousness about them.

I loved the reveal about the truth serum (check out my prediction in the pilot thread ), and Coulson finally making a tough call at the end. Can't say I was a fan of Skye throwing the gun down, but glad that it worked you Fenatic

Overall, I'm still enjoying it, but as Nightwing said over on the new Legends of S.H.I.E.L.D. podcast (with Beefand the Operator), I'm more excited about where Arrow is going this season, and the decisions Oliver Queen is having to make, and how they impact those around him.

To be fair, and again to crib from the Legends guys, now that Joss has had the series picked up for a full run, I'm hoping that we'll see the development of longer story arcs.

I'm not so sure about the Truth Serum. We didn't get confirmation for anyone, just the doubt planted that there might not be any truth serum.

Coulson did make a tough call. Way too tough. In fact that might be one of the many many many reasons Agent May asked to be assigned field work - to prevent whatever Coulson is from making the same mistake again.

I'll +1 the Legend's assessment on the full series. I'm looking forward to some series plot twists and turns now.

Mal “The wheel never stops turning, Badger.”
Badger “That only matters to the people on the rim.”

Coulson did make a tough call. Way too tough. In fact that might be one of the many many many reasons Agent May asked to be assigned field work - to prevent whatever Coulson is from making the same mistake again.

I'm not sure the call was way too tough, and I think if we look forward to Ep. 4, I think May might think that Coulson is too soft/emotionally connected to play by the book.

Example 1: In Ep. 2 The bus is hijacked by Coulson's ex and all his team is threatened, and he goes out of his way to save her and some of the team. The right call would have been to "space" her out the ad hoc air lock; the message I cam away with was that you can take S.H.I.E.L.D. agents hostage and threaten to kill them and you'll be handcuffed and returned to your government. Meh.

Example 2: In Ep. 4 **SPOILER IF YOU HAVEN"T SEEN EYE SPY**

Spoiler:

Akela (& the Bee) is killing people, chopping off hands, committing crimes etc, and May doubts Coulson can make the hard call when it comes to his protoge, so she goes solo into the field. Coulson's softness actually pays off in this one as she's being coerced/controlled, but May was willing to make the hard call by herself.

I get the "I'm a better field agent than you and Ward, and I'm frustrated I have to sit in the bus" or "Frack it, you NEED me or you're going to get yourself killed" vibe from her, despite her initially wanting to avoid combat. Either way, I'm excited about May's backstory most of all.

“Some humans would do anything to see if it was possible to do it. If you put a large switch in some cave somewhere, with a sign on it saying 'End-of-the-World Switch. PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH', the paint wouldn't even have time to dry.” ― Terry Pratchett, Thief of Time

Have to agree - for all the lightheartedness in the movies, I was hoping for a bit more of the tone of Buffy/Firefly/Angel/Dollhouse where even though there is comedy, wit, and tension balanced between real connection between the characters (even in the pilot of Firefly - just did a rewatch) the shows had an overall seriousness about them.

And as the show has gone on it's definitely showing more of that.....now I can only hope we'll see some interactions with some lesser of relevance super-people and make things a bit more interesting

Originally Posted by Shooter

Talk about seriousness! Coulson made the somewhat cold-hearted decision to kill Dr. Hall in order to stop the machine. He and he alone is responsible for the creation of whatever it is that comes out of that gravity ball (Most likely a Marvel character called Gravitron). This episode will have lasting effects on this series.

Skye manipulated things well but her street smarts only let her get so far. There was no one she was getting out of that compound on her own. It took everything she had just to plant the wifi bomb and survive long enough for Ward to come save her. That said I think the girl definitely has potential.

This might be just the plot point I was looking for for seeing some "more then just human" people and issues to deal with on the show.....I was a DC kid so I KNOW nothing about the Marvel U outside of movies and a few video games....I feel a little in the dark because of that....

And yeah she did, and not to spoil anything but the preview for next week's episode looks like it might deal a bit more with what side is she REALLY on.....my GF loves the Skye character....hope this works out better then when she latched on to Boomer in the BSG mini-series three months ago

(I was smck40, but unlike George Lucas, when I write something you can't speak I change...and upgraded....the username!)

"How come EVERYONE can do an awesome rendition of 'All Along the Watchtower'....except for Bob Dylan who wrote the damned song??"

So we get to know a little bit more about Ward in this episode and his "past." He had brothers. So odds are that he wasn't a unique genetic engineering specimen.

Plus we know that there is at least one country in which S.H.I.E.L.D. cannot operate freely - Malta.

Memorable Quotes:

Guy On Horseback Who Sold The Backhoe To The Hijackers: "Who the Hell are you?"
Coulson: "A concerned citizens who happens to be a member of a giant bureaucratic organization that's tracking your every move.

Ward: "But you don't have the background or clearance or experience with any of this."
Skye: "I know. But I do have an invitation. Well, technically it's an e-vite."

I'm not sure the call was way too tough, and I think if we look forward to Ep. 4, I think May might think that Coulson is too soft/emotionally connected to play by the book.

Example 1: In Ep. 2 The bus is hijacked by Coulson's ex and all his team is threatened, and he goes out of his way to save her and some of the team. The right call would have been to "space" her out the ad hoc air lock; the message I cam away with was that you can take S.H.I.E.L.D. agents hostage and threaten to kill them and you'll be handcuffed and returned to your government. Meh.

Example 2: In Ep. 4 **SPOILER IF YOU HAVEN"T SEEN EYE SPY**

I get the "I'm a better field agent than you and Ward, and I'm frustrated I have to sit in the bus" or "Frack it, you NEED me or you're going to get yourself killed" vibe from her, despite her initially wanting to avoid combat. Either way, I'm excited about May's backstory most of all.

I look forward to seeing episode 4. Hopefully I'll get to it later tonight. As far as Coulson, up to this episode so far he does try to do the right thing without anyone getting hurt or killed in both the movies and this show. He likes to think out of the box that way. This was his first act I've seen Coulson commit that was against that thinking.

Despite not liking Ming-Na before this series I'm starting to like her in the Agent May character. She definitely has possibilities.

Mal “The wheel never stops turning, Badger.”
Badger “That only matters to the people on the rim.”