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Re: So who is the biggest loser?

I think the Cavs will lose more games. And in truth, it's in their best interests to do just that.

Heck, if they found a way to lose more games in Lebron's first couple years in the league, they would've probably been able to get better help around him (along with not foolishly losing Boozer for nothing).

Re: So who is the loser?

at least the Nets have a complete team, New York I think was the biggest loser seconded by Chicago and of course Cleveland

edit: I would actually move Cleveland to the number one place

Why is Chicago a "loser?" They have a great, young, team that was already making waves in the playoffs. Obviously they make a huge leap if they would have added one of the big 3, but they make a pretty solid improvement by adding Boozer. They also retain quite a bit of cap flexibility for the future. Easily a top 4 team in the East.

Personally, I don't see Miami remaining in such good shape in the future. They might get back to back titles, which is hell of an accomplishment, but IMHO it will crumble apart. They won't be holding hands, singing together for long.

Chicago will be in good position, when that time comes to step right in and be the big dog on the block.

Orlando hasn't figured out a game plan, they just seem to be arranging chairs just for the sake of saying they're doing something. And Boston is just getting old, and obviously, putting their eggs back in the Big 3 w/ Rondo basket.

Re: So who is the biggest loser?

Here's a thought... would the Cav's consider trying to aquire Gilbert Arenas now for peanuts since I'm sure he is readily available for short contracts? He's no Lebron for sure, but he could fill that #1 scorer void and they could probably be a pretty decent team with the complimentary pieces they already have in place.

If they want to win now, thats the only forseeable option I see. It would at least make them a mid/low-level playoff team I think, certainly no contender.

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Re: So who is the biggest loser?

1a.) Cleveland need to clean house, tank, like they did for Lebron and start from scratch; they won't do it, so I guess this is #1. You can't lose a 2 time Mvp and not be #1 on this list.

1b.) New York, they have given up FUTURE AND PAST #1s to position for Lebron and got Stoudamire, traded David Lee who well is probably as good as Stoudamire w/o Steve Nash. I'd guess by Feb 2011, Amare will ask to be traded. NY will want to. No one will take his salary.

2.) NJ, LA, CHI

None of these 3 really,

NJ still has a nice big man in Lopez, Favors has a bright future down the line, Devin Harris is still good PG, I really like TWILL and Damion James. I mean I thought this was the 2nd best place for Lebron as far as fit.

LA has Blake Griffin and a stud starting 5, imo. They should make the playoffs by accident. Well except for the curse of injuries and mismanagement, historically.

Chicago with a 3rd year D Rose, Noah - one of the best defensive/rebounding bigs, and now Boozer with Deng on the wing. I mean aren't they 4th best in the East now?

Re: So who is the loser?

Why is Chicago a "loser?" They have a great, young, team that was already making waves in the playoffs. Obviously they make a huge leap if they would have added one of the big 3, but they make a pretty solid improvement by adding Boozer. They also retain quite a bit of cap flexibility for the future. Easily a top 4 team in the East.

I see Chicago as losers because they got rid of Hinrich+ draft pick for nothing even when they already had cap space to get Boozer, also counting all the moves they made last year moving some good players for expirings.

Another team we are forgeting about and should be in second place is Toronto, Bosh left them and they did not get anything in return either.

Re: So who is the biggest loser?

I honestly don't have a problem with LeBron wanting to team up with Wade and Bosh in Miami. It's just the way he went about it. He's such a celebrity now that he's lost all touch with reality and the way things are. If he actually used that brain of his, he'd have realized that Cleveland is a city on it's way to becoming like Detroit. To make a spectacle of his announcement to ditch the Cavs to play with friends is a total joke and a mockery of the NBA.

ESPN has seriously lost it's way too, and just plain sold out. It's all about big market teams that get the biggest ratings and that's it. I honestly can't stand ESPN any longer.

I feel terrible for the city of Cleveland and its fans as they are the biggest losers in more ways than just losing LeBron. It's right up there with the Pacer's brawl. Both the Pacers at that time were in contention for a championship as were the Cavs and now it's only a bitter memory.

It's good to want to play with friends, but sometimes you just have to do what's right. The right thing would have been to work your *** off to bring a championship to Cleveland, Ohio and your hometown. However, if you are going to leave the Cavs, I think it would have been smarter to meet with the owner of the Cavs and have a local press conference expressing thanks for the city and fans. I think something more intimate and candid would have lessened the sting.

Re: So who is the biggest loser?

It's good to want to play with friends, but sometimes you just have to do what's right. The right thing would have been to work your *** off to bring a championship to Cleveland, Ohio and your hometown. However, if you are going to leave the Cavs, I think it would have been smarter to meet with the owner of the Cavs and have a local press conference expressing thanks for the city and fans. I think something more intimate and candid would have lessened the sting.

Instead, LeBron is now just a joke.

In the NBA, the player is the commodity. As tough as it is on Cleveland (and I do feel for them), some are acting as though LeBron had no right to exercise his right to choose. That's the breaks of free agency. My biggest issue is the way it was done. He had every right to do what he felt was best for himself. But he invited the spectacle of it all on himself.

Re: So who is the biggest loser?

In the NBA, the player is the commodity. As tough as it is on Cleveland (and I do feel for them), some are acting as though LeBron had no right to exercise his right to choose. That's the breaks of free agency. My biggest issue is the way it was done. He had every right to do what he felt was best for himself. But he invited the spectacle of it all on himself.

Actually the fact that he couldn't negotiate until July 1st and then sign until July 8th caused some of this, along with ESPN. He could have said a month ago that he was planning on going to Miami. Other teams could have concentrated on making themselves better overall than waiting on the royal penis interview. I do believe in doing whats best for yourself. The spectacle created by the media was not entirely LeBrons fault but he certainly didn't do anything to subside it.

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