Selma : See thats why I don't twitter or twatter..getting twits from
folks I don't know

Vicky : I joined but cant figure out how to use it lol .. I will
stick to facebook

Selma : I have a hard enougth time keeping up with my email...I
don't do face book either

..

Vicky : twitter or twatter lol lol lol

Selma : Just too much communication for me.. LOL

Vicky : Yatah06 I am still trying to find your folks in the census

Yatah06: Vicky, mine too

Vicky : have you researched all the other lines in the last family
we had found

Yatah06: any no lucky

Vicky : so you searched them as far as you can go

Yatah06: i need look back where Josephine born

Vicky : I know, but we need to get first then go back

Yatah06: need find Mary Darby as list oh yea

Vicky : It might do well for you to research Josephine’s children.
The ones in

like Roosevelt.. Did you see him in the social security index?

Selma : Afternoon 3rdT

Vicky : hello 3rdTHawkins

Yatah06: he died 71 , Vicky

Vicky : yes, I saw that

3rdTHawkins : hey Vicky Selma and Yatah06

Yatah06: yea can be him Luther bec close yrs weird

Vicky : do you mean they died close to each other

Yatah06: no yrs

Vicky : oh you mean the age

Yatah06: yea

Vicky : I see

Yatah06: if Luther born or

Selma : Age being one year off is not unusual Yatah

Yatah06: ok Luther as list dig up more

Selma : Anymore luck with your Autauga county Vicky

Vicky : that would be great yatah06.. If he has children maybe you
can get information from them or Roosevelt’s children. no, Selma. .I am reading
up on the county I figure I would do that first and then see where it fits

ALT : Hello 3rd, Selma, STG, Vicky & yatah06

Selma : Great posting on the National Teacher award for the
research project

Vicky : The Patella’s figure in Autauga as well as in my area of Texas
research.

Yatah06: Josephine will 5 or in where she been
maybe she change name

ALT : thanks Selma....Paul and his class have done great work for
several years now and they are 99% "white".

Yatah06: Josephine and Edward 's sons lutrher and clarence,
another I not sure

3rdTHawkins : lol

STG : need more than that when cougars are hunting somethings

Yatah06: Vicky, if Josephine died that day my aunt born

Vicky : oh really yatah06! sorry to hear that circle of life

Yatah06: I mean Josephine died when my aunt born

if I can find her

ALT : anyone tried the "new search" on Ancestry?

Selma : Nope..how is it

ALT : I don't like it Selma,,,, ,probably haven't given it a fair
shake tho'

Selma : What is different about it?

Vicky : find who, Yatah06? your aunt

Yatah06: my aunt

Vicky : yatah06, you need to check with family on that one if you
are looking for census only now

Selma : Afternoon Mizz Vee

AfriVee : howdy yall

Yatah06: I will do that

Selma : Where was she living yatah..would she be in a city
directory?

3rdTHawkins : hey AfriVee

Vicky : get as much information you can from them yatah06. See if
they will send you copies of anything they may have

AfriVee : Howdy 3rd

Selma : ALT...Tiger not playing

Yatah06: yeah

ALT : don't think so Selma

Ingrid_Doweary : City directories can be awesome. I found 9 of the 7
names in local history research project!

AfriVee : White House is on lockdown mode

Selma : Why..did the Bo get out? Just put CNN on

AfriVee : Sounds like big security thing

Ingrid_Doweary : Air space violation. You multitask well

Yatah06: Vicky, I see I see edwin 85, effs 90 his father
joseph and his mom elis spelling it close

Ingrid_Doweary : Breaking news on MSNBC

Vicky : airspace violation

Ingrid_Doweary : How'd that happen?

3rdTHawkins : yeah Ingrid_Doweary I hope to go back to the library
and collect all the city directories of my grgr. gf Thomas Sanders and his wife
in the 90s, and his mother-in-law Ella Gibbs, just for my own keeping and
documentation....I would like ot find my 3rd

Vicky : is that Edwin Quiller

3rdTHawkins : 3rd great grandfather James Payson in the city
directory of Charleston in 70s

Yatah06: yea Edwin Quiller like Edward

ALT : CD' can be excellent tools for filling in the years between
Census years.

Selma : Did Charlestown have city directories in the 70's 3rdt

Ingrid_Doweary : Yeah personal archiving on CDs

Vicky : false alarm

ALT : I mean CD's as City Directories Ingrid_Doweary

3rdTHawkins : I think so, I went to the library I saw city
directories, I think it was 70s, it may have been just 80s

3rdTHawkins : Seventies Soulchild I want children of my own, I don't
want to adopt, I want my own natural children, I never had a father, so I would
like to know how it is being a dad

Ingrid_Doweary : WOW! You are do post the findings so well!

3rdTHawkins : Khathu, I wouldn't want to miss the joy of watching a
child growing from infantry into a man/woman, I would like to know how that is

STG : SC right?

Yatah06: yes

STG : ok dokey

Seventies Soulchild : That's great 3rdTHawkins...

Vicky : see above STG

STG : got Vicky oops got it

3rdTHawkins : but I think it's natural for men to want to wait til
the child is past infantry and potty training, that's the woman's thing to do,
the man waits until the child is of a certain age to teach them about life

STG : oooo ate too many cookie

Seventies Soulchild : 3rdTHawkins, don't be one of those old
overbearing parents... lol

[Action] STG : looks at 3rd

3rdTHawkins : lol.....I might

Seventies Soulchild : lol STG

Yatah06: oh one son last one sound alike

Khathu : I realized I don't have the patience

3rdTHawkins : I think there are roles in the family, but I see
nothing wrong with nuturing a child as a man from infantry and I don't right
now Khathu, but I believe I will learn to

STG : that's good 3rd. I personally would like for man to have them

Vicky : lol lol lol

3rdTHawkins : well, obviously that won't happen, so get use to the
role

Khathu : I refused to hold infant until they are at least 3-4 months
old

3rdTHawkins : you may change that once you have a child Khathu

Khathu : I don't have a problem problem adopting

[Action] STG : doesn't have to get use to the role LOL

Seventies Soulchild : LOL Khathu

Ingrid_Doweary : I started preparing before my daughters were
born.

Seventies Soulchild : You dudes are a trip lol

Vicky : khathu my brother raised his son by himself. He was picked
as the Father of the year in Corona Calif

3rdTHawkins : that's Khathu SS, I don't mean to take it so seriously
or personal, but I don't understand how a man don't want to care for his own
children.....but you are willing to take care of someone else's?

Seventies Soulchild : I applaud your bro Vicky!

Vicky : yep, me too Seventies

Khathu : I have raised my oldest nephew and my adopted son

Ingrid_Doweary : Kudos to your bro, Vicky. :)

Seventies Soulchild : I don't either 3rdTHawkins. But some men just
don't know how to deal with the responsibility

Khathu : as a single parent

Vicky : awesome Khathu

3rdTHawkins : yeah, that's it

Seventies Soulchild : wow khathu

Ingrid_Doweary : Congrats to all of you parents-guardians

3rdTHawkins : that's cool Khathu at least you were a male role
model for someone who DIDN'T have it....very good for you

Khathu : I did what I had to do at the time

Vicky : male role models were hard to find in lots of towns

3rdTHawkins : that's cool, at least you did it, my dad wouldn't
waste his time thinking about taking care of anyone but himself

Vicky : sometimes not from their own doings

STG : ok Yatah I sent it to you

Khathu : so true you all have a fantastic weekend

Yatah06: thanks I print it get dig up more

Vicky : a know of a young lady that never knew her dad had been
sending letters and gifts for years and the mother never let her know

Seventies Soulchild : That is cold Vicky... wow!

3rdTHawkins : I wish I could let you "real" women loose
on my dad, he needs somebody to set him straight, you guys would not like the
way he is

Seventies Soulchild : lol I've got 2 conversations going on here....

Yatah06: it clear thanks stg

Vicky : too many people hold grudges and never think of the turmoil
it plays on the kids

STG : good yatah

Seventies Soulchild : exactly Vicky

STG : he is who he is 3rd. I doubt there's any "setting him
straight"

Seventies Soulchild : Its because of the animosity, in that
particular incidence, of the mom

Vicky : have you talked to your dad

STG : Don't waste precious energy

3rdTHawkins : Exactly! STG, thank you, that's what I told my sister

But I didn't mean literally, I'm just trying to make a point, I'm
not worrying about him getting his life together, don't get me wrong, I was
just say....:)

Vicky : your sister does not feel the way you do 3rd?

STG : I know women whose children's father can easily do for someone
else's kids but not their own. Looking from the outside it seems like I will if
"we're" together but not if we aren't

Vicky : true STG

STG : but then want to get mad if she moves on with her life

3rdTHawkins : she met him Vicky, she and my brother are the ones
telling me how dad is, they are disgusted at him, but we were talking and I was
trying to explain how I saw it, I had to make her see it, but she does feel
about him like I do, don't get me wrong

Vicky : then when they get old and wrinkled as chitlins they want to
be in their lives

STG : yea that's what I told them Vicky. ok maybe not the chitlins
part LOL LOL LOL

Yatah06: thanks much mi better go now I pick kids

STG : later yatah

Seventies Soulchild : Yea Vicky when they can't take of themselves
and need their offspring to take care of them.... just triflin'

3rdTHawkins : my dad rather a woman take care of him instead of him
taking care of her, the children, and the house and himself

STG : he's not alone 3rd

Seventies Soulchild : 3rdTHawkins, ooohh black men like that get on
my last nerve! I cannot stand that type of man

3rdTHawkins : that's what's concerning to me Seventies Soulchild,
because he was raised to see himself as a white man, but he wants to live his
life as a black man, and this is how he chooses to live AS A BLACK MAN

Seventies Soulchild : the young girl in my office has a boyfriend
who does the exact same thing. & I don't feel sorry for her at all. :) yes
I'm rolling my eyes on that 3rd. . .

STG : 8S do that one SS lol

3rdTHawkins : But I believe he would still live his life like that,
even if he saw himself and lived his life as a white man

Seventies Soulchild : I'm doing the eyeroll, and tooth suck, STG lol

STG : lol hand on hip

Seventies Soulchild : Oh yea that too... lol That's one of the first
things a sista learns... lol lol lol

STG : again he is who he is

3rdTHawkins : his current [ex] wife had breast cancer, and her
daughter believes it's due to him repeatedly hitting her in the chest she had
to have her breast removed

Vicky : pray she stays in remission

Seventies Soulchild : It sounds like your biological dad has really
made you mad 3rdTHawkins

3rdTHawkins : as I do my research, five years after the divorce,
he's still hanging around teh house, there's a court document of him being
taking to court for domestic violence by his step daughter

Seventies Soulchild : Again :) 8S :{

3rdTHawkins : it's frustrating Seventies Soulchild, just upsetting I
feel bad for her mother because dad just messed up her life, basically, I feel
bad for her

Seventies Soulchild : Well that's on her, the ex wife, she's a grown
woman and can completely decide what she will and won't deal with. Apparently
she's going to deal with this... and seems to be fine with it.

3rdTHawkins : yeah, I disagree SS, but I know about my dad, he's
manipulative, my sister described him as a "Professional" Womanizer
to me, he's too charming, too good looking, light skinned, and too believable
and too irresistable to some females

Vicky : I think what seventies is trying to say is that you are only
weak for what you want to be weak for. light skinned has nothing to do with it

3rdTHawkins : for them to not believe him and just leave him, but
after being around you, I think you get tired of him enough, I know my mother
and my brother and sister's mother did

Vicky : mabe charming and a little belief in herself

Seventies Soulchild : For some women it does. . .

3rdTHawkins : Vicky I believe it is, especially in D.C., my sister
knows it well

Ingrid_Doweary : Try that, bottom line if you don't stand for
something, you'll fall for anything. True that, I meant.

Vicky : people have to have confidence in themselves 3rd thats the
sighn of a real woman or man

Seventies Soulchild : I plead the 5th... lol because if we start
going into all of that. . . boy will it be some fireworks going

3rdTHawkins : and my step mother was described to me as
"sweet", so I'm I can understand how she would take him back or allow
him to stay around.....my dad only messes with/talks to certain women

Vicky : exactly what I am saying 3rd..certian women

3rdTHawkins : women he could manipulate and cheat on and won't
expect a thing......

Ingrid_Doweary : Personal attributes in particular?

Vicky : low self esteem!!

Seventies Soulchild : Some women are just too sweet, I gave that up
a long time ago for cool. lol

3rdTHawkins : that has to be it Vicky, especially for a man raised
up to be white and trying to live in a black world. He's light skinned, he has
to battle trying to "fit in" the black world

Vicky : bull! He is not the only one that looks like that

STG : pshaw

Ingrid_Doweary : Someone in this group mentioned Kenyatta Berry's
article this week. I started reading it in the Family Tree Magazine

STG : I did Ingrid

Seventies Soulchild : 3rd how did that happen? Your dad being raised
to be white?? Sounds like some double consciousness going on with him. Which is
madness.

STG : I read "at it"

Vicky : what article was that..Is it online Ingrid_Doweary

Seventies Soulchild : In situtations like that, I squarely blame the
schizophrenic culture called American. Sad to say, but true.

3rdTHawkins : well, that's my personal assesment, for the most part,
I don't think how he was raised or was attempted to be raised has anything to
do with how he is, he didn't care about what his parents were saying

Ingrid_Doweary : African American roots obscured by slavery, STG?
Vicky, I got my printed magazine the day that chat.

3rdTHawkins : so, yeah, you guys are right, that's Bull :)

Vicky : do you have a link

Seventies Soulchild : Please post, Ingrid, I would like to read that
story.article...

STG : somebody needs to clean off my desk!

Vicky : never mind, I will do a google

Seventies Soulchild : lol

Vicky : If my arms were longer

Seventies Soulchild : Sounds like someone has a lot of unfinished
work! lol

3rdTHawkins : but I try not to think about all of that, so I can
like my dad, otherwise, it's hard to do research thinking about the negative,
but no one ever has any positive to say of him

Vicky : you are the positive 3rd, you and your sister

STG : I just have it piled up with stuff!

3rdTHawkins : well, I have to go, I'll catch you guys next week or
tomorrow...............Vicky my sister and my two brothers Vicky there's four
of us

Seventies Soulchild : If your workspace is messy, its hard to focus
imo

STG : I don't think the article is online yet.

Vicky : how ever many 3rd you have to be the positive you are living

STG : nah I focus well amongst clutter

Vicky : and make it better for those around you

3rdTHawkins : yeah, ok then I'm gonna go, bye you guys

STG : too clean and folks will think I don't have anything to do LOL
LOL LOL

Seventies Soulchild : True. . . lol lol lol

Vicky : guess I will go also.. time for Wii fit

STG : don't overdo it Vicky

Seventies Soulchild : I have to go to a potty break, I hadn't had
one all afternoon.... lol