Christ is not real. He was a stolen story. This thread at its very basic level is inaccurate.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4268269

How so?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22070412

Because the same stories/characteristics attributed to Jesus had already existed and were applied to previous 'messiahs'/'God(s)'/Deities from religions/mythology that predated the alleged time of Jesus Christ. The virgin birth, having exactly 12 helpers/desciples, performing miracles, the crucifixion & resurrection. These were not novel or unique concepts that only surfaced 2000 years ago based on actual historical events, but a reimplementation of traditional concepts from preexisting cultures & belief systems. This is the way society evolves, by reinventing and working with what has been known/practiced/understood by cultures of the past.

The issue with trying to have an objective discussion about this subject matter without invoking emotional responses, is that some, through belief, have sold the perceived sanctity or well-being of their spirit/soul on these stories. To consider that they were not based on historical events - it can be perceived as a threat to one's well-being, to one's soul. I don't feel it should be this way but I understand the circumstances. Everyone's understanding of the 'truth' can only be viewed from the context of one's own conscious evolution, and what is considered to be the 'truth' will change/adapt/conform to one's progression on that journey. It's for that reason that it is always important to practice an open mind and never invest/commit oneself too heavily in any particular 'version' of the 'truth'.

Quoting: ANHEDONIC

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I was just stepping off, but I didn't see your contribution...

I am not particularly emotional about this topic... for me it is common sense...

and I understand why so many disbelieve... the deception is massive and supernatural in nature and the institutions are corrupted by this same deception so every other option appears better...

if you truly want to explore all sides of this, as I have, try to spend some time with all sides... many of the people on the list at the beginning of this thread are interesting and intelligent, so it shouldn't be a waste of your time to include them...

especially, Roger Morneau, Prof. Veith, Mark Cleminson and some of the others...