"The biggest public mistake I ever made was that I chose to do Criminal Minds in the first place. I thought it was something very different. I never thought they were going to kill and rape all these women every night, every day, week after week, year after year. It was very destructive to my soul and my personality." Patinkin also addressed the whole crime drama genre. "I'm not making a judgment on the taste [of people who watch crime procedurals]," he said. "But I'm concerned about the effect it has. Audiences all over the world use this programming as their bedtime story. This isn't what you need to be dreaming about."

He isn't wrong about that last bit. those shows ARE pretty violent and depraved. sure, it's a paycheck but...I'm not sure i'd want to get up every day and read another script that deals with more ways to violate the human mind, body and/or spirit. there's been more than one episode of 'criminal minds' that made me ill.

Weaver95:"The biggest public mistake I ever made was that I chose to do Criminal Minds in the first place. I thought it was something very different. I never thought they were going to kill and rape all these women every night, every day, week after week, year after year. It was very destructive to my soul and my personality." Patinkin also addressed the whole crime drama genre. "I'm not making a judgment on the taste [of people who watch crime procedurals]," he said. "But I'm concerned about the effect it has. Audiences all over the world use this programming as their bedtime story. This isn't what you need to be dreaming about."

He isn't wrong about that last bit. those shows ARE pretty violent and depraved. sure, it's a paycheck but...I'm not sure i'd want to get up every day and read another script that deals with more ways to violate the human mind, body and/or spirit. there's been more than one episode of 'criminal minds' that made me ill.

Yeah, there's something off about that show. I used to watch it a little bit... but it's too much. I'd rather watch Castle. Still lots of crime fighting, but less creepy and more funny.

don't get me wrong...I think criminal minds is a good show. but...I find myself watching it less than before. it's not openly gory or anything but the themes are creepy, icky and just plain inhuman. you watch the opening 10 min and ask yourself 'ok, what sort of horrible perversion is it going to be this episode?'

So I don't blame Mandy Patinkin for just walking away from all that. I'll bet it really WAS difficult for him to work around that stuff every day.

Weaver95:"The biggest public mistake I ever made was that I chose to do Criminal Minds in the first place. I thought it was something very different. I never thought they were going to kill and rape all these women every night, every day, week after week, year after year. It was very destructive to my soul and my personality." Patinkin also addressed the whole crime drama genre. "I'm not making a judgment on the taste [of people who watch crime procedurals]," he said. "But I'm concerned about the effect it has. Audiences all over the world use this programming as their bedtime story. This isn't what you need to be dreaming about."

He isn't wrong about that last bit. those shows ARE pretty violent and depraved. sure, it's a paycheck but...I'm not sure i'd want to get up every day and read another script that deals with more ways to violate the human mind, body and/or spirit. there's been more than one episode of 'criminal minds' that made me ill.

Here here! I've never made it through an episode of Criminal Minds. After 5 minutes I turn it off thinking 'this is entertainment?' the same with The mentalist, which is a shame because originally I liked it.

I can agree that I wouldn't want my job to be doing that show every day. For people watching it though, it's a once a week thing, and I usually watch it (recorded) as the first show I'll watch in an evening and then watch something more light hearted after.

People are fascinated by deviant minds, and always have been, and always will be. Criminal Minds preaches the mantra of remembering the victims and not glorifying the killers, but it's kinda hypocritical since the whole show is only of interest because of the bizarre nature of the crimes and/or killers.

I'm still stuck with Criminal Minds because of my girlfriend and Spencer with the hair but has anyone put up the clip of when AJ about knocked the one guy through a solid wall?

I'm not that stuck with it. It's a trade for White Collar, Burn Notice, and Psych and whatever else I want to watch. But I do point out Morgan, between his time on soaps, was in that godawful Birds of Prey show. And my Batgirl fan girlfriend hates that.

/Gubler was also Jimmy Olsen in All-Star Superman//I do this when the episode gets boring, I just find every actor and give their resume///The she counters with Paget Brewster saving Dan and Chris on Dan vs. and I shut up.

I have no idea if the FBI actually uses the word "unsub," but I want to reach into the TV and smack somebody every time I hear one of them say it. It's a stupid word, and annoying. They think it makes them sound more authentic. I think it makes them sound like idiots.

NeoCortex42:I can't believe they couldn't get Patinkin back for the DVD-movie. It just didn't feel right not having Rube there.

God, that movie was terrible. I was so disappointed after watching that terrific show.

Weaver95:don't get me wrong...I think criminal minds is a good show. but...I find myself watching it less than before. it's not openly gory or anything but the themes are creepy, icky and just plain inhuman. you watch the opening 10 min and ask yourself 'ok, what sort of horrible perversion is it going to be this episode?'

So I don't blame Mandy Patinkin for just walking away from all that. I'll bet it really WAS difficult for him to work around that stuff every day.

I hear you. I used to love the show, and I learned to really like Mantegna's character, but I think I'm over it. It's just an exercise in darkness.

Anyway, while I don't disagree with his decision, isn't it sort of well-known that Mandy Patinkin is notoriously difficult to work with? I recall reading that he was a PITA to work with on Chicago Hope and a jackass on Dead Like Me.

Huh? I didn't find Criminal Minds to be all that sick and depraved. It was actually fairly smart at times.

I don't know, maybe I'm better at separating fact and fiction. I'd get sick watching actual rapes and murders (like any sane person)... but in a fictional drama it doesn't have any affect on me really.

Weaver95:don't get me wrong...I think criminal minds is a good show. but...I find myself watching it less than before. it's not openly gory or anything but the themes are creepy, icky and just plain inhuman. you watch the opening 10 min and ask yourself 'ok, what sort of horrible perversion is it going to be this episode?'

So I don't blame Mandy Patinkin for just walking away from all that. I'll bet it really WAS difficult for him to work around that stuff every day.

downstairs:Huh? I didn't find Criminal Minds to be all that sick and depraved. It was actually fairly smart at times.

I found it to be pretty mixed. Granted, I stopped watching about the time when Patinkin left, so I might mix things up a bit. At times it felt like the whole desensitization he complains about was actually being integrated in the structure of the series, with some characters (esp. his own) being quite affected by their daily work in one way or the other. But eventually that was mostly scrapped or felt as a sideline due to the need for one case per episode. It probably would've fared much better if there would've been some overarching plot, something like The Wire/Shield meets abnormal psychology.

mhd:downstairs: Huh? I didn't find Criminal Minds to be all that sick and depraved. It was actually fairly smart at times.

I found it to be pretty mixed. Granted, I stopped watching about the time when Patinkin left, so I might mix things up a bit. At times it felt like the whole desensitization he complains about was actually being integrated in the structure of the series, with some characters (esp. his own) being quite affected by their daily work in one way or the other. But eventually that was mostly scrapped or felt as a sideline due to the need for one case per episode. It probably would've fared much better if there would've been some overarching plot, something like The Wire/Shield meets abnormal psychology.

So you missed The Reaper episodes? I never thought I'd use C. Thomas Howell and brilliant in the same sentence, but here we are. One warning:the end is EXTREMELY dark, even by CM standards.

I love Mandy Patinkin, and absolutely love Criminal minds. The show does gross me out and sometimes rattles me a bit to where I have to turn my head the other way. I always misspell Criminal as Crimanal. So thankful for spell-check.

tillerman35:I have no idea if the FBI actually uses the word "unsub," but I want to reach into the TV and smack somebody every time I hear one of them say it. It's a stupid word, and annoying. They think it makes them sound more authentic. I think it makes them sound like idiots.

I hear you. I had honestly never heard that word before in my life before this show, so I had to look it up when I first heard it. I thought to myself, "why wouldn't you just say 'suspect'?"

coco ebert:Well he's pretty awesome in Homeland so he has that going for him.

He is basically playing the same character as he did in CM.

I'm just waiting for CM to do what they know they want to do and have Reed slip into multiple personality disorder and start killing people. Then have the BAU, with Reed, unknowingly investigating his crimes.

Subby, he didn't really come down on CBS as much as the genre of "procedurals". He's great in Homeland but I've always thought he's a bit of a headcase when it comes to his work choices. Chicago Hope was better than ER IMO before he left and the buddy meetings with Arkin at the end of each show was reborn with Shatner and Spader on Boston Legal (both David E Kelley shows). I watch way too much TV.

GavinTheAlmighty:tillerman35: I have no idea if the FBI actually uses the word "unsub," but I want to reach into the TV and smack somebody every time I hear one of them say it. It's a stupid word, and annoying. They think it makes them sound more authentic. I think it makes them sound like idiots.

I hear you. I had honestly never heard that word before in my life before this show, so I had to look it up when I first heard it. I thought to myself, "why wouldn't you just say 'suspect'?"

They do overuse it on the show, but it means "unknown subject"... a suspect is a known person. Just getting technical here.