"I hope Nokia is not going to do same thing what Sun did for MySQL. They closed it's source... "

No they didn't - don't believe everything you see in awful slashdot editorials :) Everything that is currently GPL'd in MySQL is staying GPL'd, but further components developed by SUN may or may not be placed under a proprietary or non-GPL license. It's a net win for MySQL and its users.

Plus, Nokia would gain absolutely nothing by closing the source, and they would lose an awful lot, and they are smart enough to see this.

Well... Symbian is what's underneath, Qt runs on top of it... So it's kind of like saying KDE > Windows these days ;) While it's true that it's better than any other GUI running on it today, well... it wouldn't be much without the underlying systems, really :)

and how do you think the community can force companies to hire KDE people? A company should always hire only the best, and sorry but although the community might want to think with their ego, a lot of times there are much better options than those who work on KDE

The point is, to spread the news among KDE friendly devs who would then apply for the job. If enough of them do, then there's a pretty good chance one of them will end up being the best match for the job and get hired.

> A company should always hire only the best

Ok, we agree there.

> a lot of times there are much better options than those who work on KDE

And there you go back to trolling... Or at least deliberately trying to piss people off. KDE is like any other large software project, it has many great developers and some marginal ones. I think the balance there is actually pretty favorable for KDE compared to many projects.

> there are much better options than those who work on KDE
N probably needs experienced Qt developers. KDE has developed an entire DE based on Qt, so they obviously are amoung the best, if not ARE the best, at developing with Qt.

I'm just wondering how many "framework" "toolkits" etc etc yada yada yada there are? I remember getting Opie to work on my Ipaq. It still works BTW. We have GPE. We have Trolltech's Qtopia. There's Google's Android.

How many are there? Way back in the day people said it was a pipe dream. Then everything is reinvented. I guess it would be nice to know why the various projects were started as well.

Not sure when it was really started though. Perhaps it has to do with companies starting open source projects from scratch. That may be good. I wonder why some of the existing projects were no used. Are there technical problems?

Hi, the maemo platform was made public on May 2005 and since day one a key aspect was the use of existing open source projects filling the gaps either contributing to their improvement or complementing them with own development. Linux kernel, X.org, Debian tools, HAL, Dbus, GStreamer, Telepathy, GTK+...

What is more important, Nokia has made all this development quite in sync with the respective upstream projects, hiring developers from there, working with companies from their ecosystem, contributing patches back and etc.