Comments on: The Night of 4.0.1 and Some Initial Thoughtshttps://bossypally.wordpress.com/2010/10/13/the-night-of-4-0-1-and-some-initial-thoughts/
There's no bacon like Holy BaconThu, 05 Feb 2015 12:42:38 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: Opheliehttps://bossypally.wordpress.com/2010/10/13/the-night-of-4-0-1-and-some-initial-thoughts/#comment-1983
Sun, 17 Oct 2010 01:03:08 +0000http://bossypally.wordpress.com/?p=2064#comment-1983I decided to keep my ret offspec…prot just seems so scary and complicated since the patch. I was a poor pally tank when pally tanking was “easy”, so I can’t imagine how terribad I’d be now!

My guild’s pally tank is away, so I don’t know what it’s like to heal one in 4.0.1. I feel for you guys😦

I wouldn’t regem right away, int is still by far our best stat (mana, spell power and crit). And thankfully they made the new glyph system much more convenient.

Yeah, I wonder how the paladins who don’t read up on the news are doing. The change was massive, getting the most out of our procs is really challenging and even at our best, we’re currently pretty weak healers. I get sad when I hear stories of LFD pugs immediately booting a pally healer lately, but at the same time, I kind of understand.

]]>By: SmashNHealhttps://bossypally.wordpress.com/2010/10/13/the-night-of-4-0-1-and-some-initial-thoughts/#comment-1981
Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:29:49 +0000http://bossypally.wordpress.com/?p=2064#comment-1981Oooh, I can’t wait to hear about it then. Since I have so much DPS gear, I off-specced Ret again and found it chaotic and boring at the same time. Maybe it’s the nerfed DPS, but I’m not interested in DPSing these days. So, it gives me even more reason to hear how healing turns out in Cat.

As far as tanking, I’m liking it. For single target situations, the imbalance of super-buffed DPS vs tanks that need to build Vengeance makes the first 9 seconds of a boss a bit of a waiting game. Vengeance could scale a little faster, but when it is maxed and Shield of the Righteous crits with 3 HoPo, no more worrying about aggro. I had a 65k crit on Festergut when I had 9 stacks of Gastric Bloat on me. I felt like a Ret Pally on steroids. As for AoE tanking, the loss of Consecrate spams doesn’t seem to make any difference. With Hammer of the Righteous splash damage hitting unlimited number of mobs and being spammed every 3 seconds, aggro is fairly easy. On 10m LK the other night, I don’t think I hit Consecrate once, and we never had a runaway ghoul.

But like you pointed out, there are still some more critical talents on the way to 85 that might change the feel. Inquisition will provide a different HoPo-consuming spell for AoE tanking. And Guardian of the Ancient Kings will give a much welcomed damage reduction cooldown spell (I’m looking at you Soul Reaper).

Ok, I give. There is one small complaint about tanking in 4.0.1. I’m squishy. I’m not talking about the loss of 2 damage reduction cooldowns (Div Guard & glyphed Hand of Salv). I’m talking about armor nerfing. We 2-tank the BPC, where I double-team Taldaram and Valanar. I pulled them to start the encounter and they proceeded to mush me into the ground in less time than the healers could react. It was the fastest wipe we’ve ever had on a boss encounter. We all laughed, but it was a wake-up call. I’m 2.6% shy of pushing hit completely off the table (WTB more Mastery), so I doubt that it was unlucky RNG. I guess we’re just not tuned for ICC bosses anymore.

So where do I sit? Definitely liking the changes. I am sure the devs will figure out how to fix my threat so the DPS aren’t waiting on Sunders, er, I mean Vengeance. And I am sure they will figure out how to de-squishify me. Yes, I just created that word. Until then, I’m having fun being a different Pally tank. But I like change. It made the game fun again for me.

I’m main spec holy and plan on being that way for quite some time, if not permanently. I still bubble when needed, but I still observe the rule that disc priests get first dibs on bubbling and they get touchy, otherwise.

So hey, I let them have it! 🙂

]]>By: Kimberlyhttps://bossypally.wordpress.com/2010/10/13/the-night-of-4-0-1-and-some-initial-thoughts/#comment-1979
Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:13:03 +0000http://bossypally.wordpress.com/?p=2064#comment-1979You are a brave, brave paladin for raiding right away. I’ll be honest, I’ve been QQing since 4.0.1 hit. Nothing is what it was for me. My biggest crit is 12k. 12K! I’m terrified that I’m going to run a heroic and everyone’s going to die because I don’t know how things are supposed to work anymore. My fave tank asked me to heal him last night in a 5 and I declined.

I know I have to pull it together and re-gem and re-glyph. But I’m tired of having to relearn everything every few years for the same game. And I even had half-a-clue it was coming. I can’t imagine how jarring this is for WoW players who don’t read blogs or mmo-champion.

Oh, and my Light of Dawn looks crooked. It looks like I fizzled. Feh. Bah.

]]>By: Dreaminghttps://bossypally.wordpress.com/2010/10/13/the-night-of-4-0-1-and-some-initial-thoughts/#comment-1978
Fri, 15 Oct 2010 13:54:52 +0000http://bossypally.wordpress.com/?p=2064#comment-1978I have played my first ICC raid night with our new build. And I can feel what you said now.
It’s more fun than before, we got a huge increase in mobility, but our global healing went down on the meters, because other healers that are faster than us are now stronger than before. I mean damage prevention (disc priests) and hots (druids, holy priests).

Holy Shock esp. with Daybreak procs combined to Word of Glory are very nice tools for emergency raid healing. Very nice during Marrowgar whirl, or when dpsers are going crazy during trash pulls and aggro jumps everywhere.
Light of Dwan is, for me, cute but near from useless. If hp pools go up that much during cataclysm, it will become ridiculous and I’ll drop it from the tree for sure.

As for now we have so much mana that Divine Light can be used on the tank without much concern. I’m not sure it’ll stay true at level 85, and I don’t think we can keep a tank up without it.
I’m still wondering if we’ll be tank healers during Cata.
What could become the trend is for most healers to have “something” on the tank and participate to keeping him up together (Beacon + Shield + Lifebloom …).

]]>By: Opheliehttps://bossypally.wordpress.com/2010/10/13/the-night-of-4-0-1-and-some-initial-thoughts/#comment-1977
Fri, 15 Oct 2010 13:06:41 +0000http://bossypally.wordpress.com/?p=2064#comment-1977You know, there are 3 elements that facilitate learning: association, repetition and emotion. We’re just making use of the emotion part🙂.

From what I’m hearing from other healers, the patch wasn’t major for other classes. Some new stuff, but nothing drastic. And disc priest PW:S is so incredibly overpowered right now, make sure you enjoy it a bit before it gets nerfed!

]]>By: Oestrushttps://bossypally.wordpress.com/2010/10/13/the-night-of-4-0-1-and-some-initial-thoughts/#comment-1976
Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:16:25 +0000http://bossypally.wordpress.com/?p=2064#comment-1976The more that I read your blog, Ophelie, the more I realize that I can relate to most of what you say or how you operate. It’s quite uncanny. I myself am a recovering control freak and have even seen a shrink about it (and still do), we’re both “O” characters (although I’m the O, of course) and we both are very intense learners. I related quite a bit to your part about growing frustrated while trying to learn something and it’s not uncommon for me to lash out people when I’m just not “getting it.” It’s not healthy and I apologize afterwards, but I admit that I do it.

I did not get to participate in the “night of” celebrations for 4.0, though I heard for most people it was somewhat of a shit show or radically different than what they are used to. It took about 12 hours for the patch to fully download and for me to be able to play. I haven’t touched my druid since the patch hit, but I have been on my priest and healed a few Heroics with friends. I was quite pleased with the Justice Point costs of T10 and some part of me is strangely excited at the notion of farming up that full set for myself, in the near future. I would just have to find a balance between doing that and still hitting 85 on the Beta and testing all of that out.

Overall, I found the patch to be… limiting, because I can still fall back on my holy priest ways of Renew/CoH spam and I’m not really learning how to be a Cata style holy priest just yet. I have all the mana in the world and it’s still old hat to me. Take away that, jack up my mana costs and force me to rely on Chakra + Heal and we’ll talk – lol