a reply to: trader21
Early chuch writers were able to find the cross in all sorts of places in the old Testament.

For example, when Jacob blessed Ephraim and Manasseh, they were placed in front of him with the elder son ready to receive his right hand.
Jacob wanted to give the better blessing to the other son, so he put his right hand on the head of the boy kneeeling on the left, and his left hand on
the boy kneeling on the right.
Thus making the sign of the cross with his arms.

I made this thread to try to get help for myself, with finding a better understanding about this subject.

The Israelis were passing over the dry desert as they followed Moses ( and daily used this symbol of a cross in their camp ), after their having just
been made free by the actions of the Passover lamb.

Jesus Christ is supposed to be the real Passover Lamb for everyone's sin.

originally posted by: trader21
I made this thread to try to get help for myself, with finding a better understanding about this subject.

The Israelis were passing over the dry desert as they followed Moses ( and daily used this symbol of a cross in their camp ), after their having just
been made free by the actions of the Passover lamb.

Jesus Christ is supposed to be the real Passover Lamb for everyone's sin.

You should put that in your OP...

There is no evidence of the "biblical exodus"... It may have happened but certainly not in the way the bible describes it...

Jesus was actually made the "Passover lamb"... by John... who changed the date of the event to suit prophecy...Take a look at Mark's version of his
execution, and then see what John said

The cross is the symbolic representation of the 4 natures that create physical manifestation, fire, earth, air, and water. The center of the cross
being the source of those 4 natures, also known as the ether, and the 4 arms representing thus stated 4 natures emanating from it, or stemming from
it. The ancient meaning of "take up your cross" was the renunciation of the physical body, to sacrifice all that attaches your sense of "self" to the
human organism. It would not be uncommon during those times for the cross to be used as a holy means of forming camps, gatherings, etc.

Remember, Moses came before Jesus, Moses was a bodhisattva and his actions paved the way for Jesus, who is a buddha, and his teachings to reach
fruition within society.

Exodus didn't happen. There is absolutely no evidence that up to two million Hebrews lived in the desert for 40 years. Not one shard of pottery
.. not one dead body ... not one bone ... not one animal carcass .... nothing. The Egyptian Army wasn't 'wiped out' like the bible says. We know
this because the Egyptians went on to win great battles after Exodus supposedly happened. And the Egyptians were excellent record keepers and they
have nothing written down about hundreds of thousands .. or even millions .. of Hebrews 'slaves' leaving.

There is no way to know that Moses camped in a cross ... because there is no evidence that an exodus even actually happened.

Serabit El Khadim, the temple of Hathor is probably the inspiration for Mt. Sinai

No it probably did not happen literally the way its written, but that is not the point. It is not meant to be scientific history. It is a
mythological story that is "inspired" by real events.

It was never meant to be taken literally, just like the creation story is not meant to be science. That is a very modern view of ancient literature.
The exodus is a bunch of oral stories codified into a national epic, for the purpose of telling a story.

originally posted by: zardust
And there is much truth in the story of exodus. It is dead literally but the spirit gives life.

Its' just like a childs bed time fairy tale story that has a moral lesson to it. The problem is that there are millions upon millions of people who
take Exodus literally. And to base religious beliefs off a lie like that is dangerous.

There is a moral level but something much greater than that. The pattern of the tabernacle is a universal archetype.

I agree with you it's foolish for the mainly Americans who believe it's literal story. Also dangerous. BUT that doesn't negate the esoteric gold
found hidden within the exoteric field of dirt so to speak.

And there is much truth in the story of exodus. It is dead literally but the spirit gives life.

Its' just like a childs bed time fairy tale story that has a moral lesson to it. The problem is that there are millions upon millions of people who
take Exodus literally. And to base religious beliefs off a lie like that is dangerous.

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