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The very fact that Margret Beckett thought she was up to the job and capable of raising moral standards in simply F U C K IN

Laughable

The women has stolen money, fact. probably perfect then.....

So far as I can make out, not one of these slightly un-preposessing characters who are pitching for a role as custodian of the integrity of the house, is untainted by the expenses scandal. Possible exception is Widdecombe, but even she claimed quite a few grand for some news clippings service. What a joke this all is.

They say they must restore the confidence of the people in parliament. Well it's too damn late. They have shown what they are and who they are. The only reason they want to be seen to be seen cleaning things up is because they got found out. Otherwise, it would be business as usual and they would still be troughing routinely.

They are what they are. Everything else is just window dressing. Hopefully, at last, most people know it.

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So far as I can make out, not one of these slightly un-preposessing characters who are pitching for a role as custodian of the integrity of the house, is untainted by the expenses scandal. Possible exception is Widdecombe, but even she claimed quite a few grand for some news clippings service. What a joke this all is.

They say they must restore the confidence of the people in parliament. Well it's too damn late. They have shown what they are and who they are. The only reason they want to be seen to be seen cleaning things up is because they got found out. Otherwise, it would be business as usual and they would still be troughing routinely.

They are what they are. Everything else is just window dressing. Hopefully, at last, most people know it.

but will the general populace realise & remember. (the remembering bit is also very important)

Older generations have not been passing information & intelligence down the family tree, & the government police state is ensuring that the younger generations don't want to understand. Reality tv & cheap shitty food & drink has kept the yoof & their chav parents entertained.

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I think it's quite a clever move by those naughty little machiavellian Labour MPs. The speaker will be massively associated with any ongoing sleaze - and it's bound to be ongoing. So a lot will rub off on the Tories. Spread the blame and confuse the electorate. Nice one Gordon.

As against which, Bercow is on the extreme left of the Tory Party, nearly crossed the floor on a number of occasions, is loathed by most of his fellow members of the PCP and is only still an MP because he conscientiously licks the necessary posteriors in his constituency. So it won't be difficult for Cameron to give him the shove after the election if any mud is sticking on him at that stage. That having been said, it is a moderately clever move by Labour, because Bercow, AFAIK, came up about as near to squeaky clean as is possible in the expenses revelations, thereby putting him in a very strong moral position.

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Well, I have to ask, what on earth is wrong with an MP subscribing to a news clipping service. Is that not exactly the kind of office expense we might expect to see from somebody looking out for their constituents?

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Not particularly squeaky clean;he flipped his constituency house to a Â£540,000 flat and has claimed the maximum second home expenses for several years.Plus he claimed expenses for tax advice,which I believe is illegal.

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Interesting. Obviously the Torygraph didn't seriously look his expenses file up until last night. The media was taking the almost universal line up to and including The World Tonight that there were no significant flies on him.