Naruto has me hooked. I understand why people don't like it, mainly because of its main character, but the jiryah plot line and the kakashi character development. So good. Pein just attacked the hidden leaf and I am dying on the inside.

>>102207479
Because the animation quality, and story quality is nowhere near top tier. The characters like Pein are just there to let angsty preteens identify with someone. It's a show catering teenager needs, nothing else.

yah I agree with the angsty teenagers part, thats fine though. hes a interesting character with interesting plot hooks. Like how jiryah saved him and now theres like 6 of him or whatever and the reningan and stuff. There is so much background they get into thanks to it being like 90 seasons long

>>102207977
Its because Naruto is shit, it got shit after the Chunin Exam. It became filler episode after filler episode. The characters stopped developing, nothing ever got better, it was just OH NO. SASSUUK I MUST SAVE YOU.
NARUUTUUU I AM >STR THAN U
NARUUTUU LEAN DIS NEW TECHNNQUE
SASSUK I AM >STR THAN U

>>102208236
I completely agree, here is why I still like it though despite that... the Chunin exams were dope though. im on episode like 160 something of shippuden now and the Chunin exams are still some of the best episodes I have seen.

Naruto is a gateway anime of the worst kind. It's a bad series, a clusterfuck of story and characterization that isn't very well done by any aspect, but which attempts to compensate for its weaknesses by adding in excessive shipping faggotry and DARKNESS. The normal anon can see this as the shit it is, and may enjoy it, hate it or be indifferent to it, but all the while recognizing that the series itself, regardless of their opinion, is plain bad.

However, these very aspects that try to smear over the shit of its core make it a breeding ground for aspie, unsociable underageb& faggots who engage in every kind of faggotry both online and in the real world. The superpowered characters all trying their hardest to look cool, the jutsus, peculiar, colorful clothes, the whole ninja faggotry and everything about the Naruto world fuels their escapist fantasies, while the pity-party character backgrounds, emphasis on revenge, and overall preachiness of the series make it fit just right with the mary-sueish drives of your average preteen and his sense of unwarranted self-importance towards the world. Exactly the kind of shit that makes little kiddies and underageb& retards eat this shit right the fuck up.

Naruto is basically THE series to attract the most hated anime fanbase known to /a/, which is why, regardless of individual opinions, it is the responsibility of every anon to troll the fuck out of this show and everyone who likes it, and ensure that no Naruto threads ever encourage the newfriends to show their faces here.

>>102208321
nah, im just ganna shit post it up until I get banned and then go about my day. You guys have been hospitable enough to make me feel like it would be impolite of me to leave before bumping this thread a few times

>>102208078
No, he is not interesting. He is an orphan. Wow, intere-no. Batman is an orphan. Spiderman is an orphan. Naruto is an orphan. He has rinnegan, the power of god. Wow intere-no. He kills his master, interes-no. Pain is a really bland character. I honestly like him because of how he views the world (which is pretty fucking "MUH DARKNESS", but whatever, I'm a faggot).
You might think you get better characters because of the length, but you're fucking wrong. Take Hitei Hime or Togame from Katanagatari. It's 12 episodes long, and they have more character than Jiraiya, Orichimaru, Sasuke and Pein put together.
The only thing the long shitty seasons do are to lower the overall quality of the series. Animation sucks (except the one with Pein, that one where all the /v/-fags goes QUALITY) and the one called Uchia Madara (it's pretty new). The animations is so fucking bad, that I don't understand why they haven't hired the studio that makes MLP yet.
It also invites fillers. Because you're watching it now, and haven't been following it since it started, you have been able to skip fillers, I haven't. I've watched the one shitty story after the other.
Don't come here, for ONE second, and pretend Naruto is good, has any quality you can't find anywhere else, or is unique.

>>102208401
I disagree, the story is extremely linear with very few flashbacks. sure it tangents for filler, but if the tangents confuse you from the main linear plot then... well then you must get confused easily as fuck. I assume you mean character development by 'characterization' and I think the character development is one of the strongest things they do on the show. They manage to make you care that asuma died in like 3 episodes falt.
To summarize what you said in the second part, all entertainment is escapism. Anyone that puts "some college" on a job application can tell you that. So saying your anime > naruto because less escapism is a retarded argument. that being said, yah Idk im not really 'in-touch' with the naruto anime fan base. not really that deep in the anime world (and im beginning to understand why thanks to this thread)

>>102208401>ninja
By the way, where did that go?
In the first episodes, it was about being stealthy, now it's a "ninja war" what the fuck is even that? It's like saying "Light-darkness" I mean, it makes no fucking sense. Ninjas are supposed to be sneaky, assasin-type characters, right? And know they're marching in armies, fighting with frontiers, supportsentres and shit?

>>102208510
I cant speak to take hitei hime or togame or whatever because I haven't seen them. A lot of people find batman very interesting, but wouldn't site its because he is an orphan. thats a pretty 1 dimensional analysis of pein.

>>102208752
I didn't really feel anything for Asuma. I was more "will you just fucking die?"
I have no interest in side characters. They bring in a character in (say) episode 701, and kill him in episode 703. But episode 704-715 is all about his life. It's just bullshit to feed stupid americans like you, who are way too sentimental for your own good, and attach yourself to the shittiest of shit because you're shit yourself.
Plus, you're saying that you have no contact with the fanbase, and that you're not too deep int he anime world. THEN DON'T FUCKING POST. You have nothing to say, because you're basing it on nothing but your own fucking assumptions.