dacash wrote:why is justin jackson rated so low?i understand the other players are super but isnt he a damn good player too?

He's a junior I think it is the main reason. So people feel he can't improve as much since he's already close to being physically matured

I agree he's very solid on the floor. I'm sort of hesitant to say it, but he seems like a Phil kind of player.

Tend to agree with you on this...but he is not top 7 worthy, is he?

He would be a major reach at where we now are.

based on his year of play and the other players in the draft i say top 12 to 15 but ive seen him on some mocks going in the 20's just wondered why a nice player who has shown improvement and led his team far would be so lightly thought ofhe and the french pg would make two nice hauls IMO

I agree too. He is thought badly of because he is a junior so it's unlikely he has a lot of untapped potential and just began shooting well this year. However his skill set fits the triangle and he plays defense. He reminds me of Shane Battier but a better passer. However, Phil would have to get a late lottery pick to get him.

dacash wrote:why is justin jackson rated so low?i understand the other players are super but isnt he a damn good player too?

He's a junior I think it is the main reason. So people feel he can't improve as much since he's already close to being physically matured

I agree he's very solid on the floor. I'm sort of hesitant to say it, but he seems like a Phil kind of player.

Tend to agree with you on this...but he is not top 7 worthy, is he?

He would be a major reach at where we now are.

based on his year of play and the other players in the draft i say top 12 to 15 but ive seen him on some mocks going in the 20's just wondered why a nice player who has shown improvement and led his team far would be so lightly thought ofhe and the french pg would make two nice hauls IMO

I agree too. He is thought badly of because he is a junior so it's unlikely he has a lot of untapped potential and just began shooting well this year. However his skill set fits the triangle and he plays defense. He reminds me of Shane Battier but a better passer. However, Phil would have to get a late lottery pick to get him.

Would wonder about his ability as a defender in the NBA from the games I saw him play, but have not seen enough of him.

I'll bet he finds a place on a team in the league, but not as a starter...though who knows.

EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?

dacash wrote:why is justin jackson rated so low?i understand the other players are super but isnt he a damn good player too?

He's a junior I think it is the main reason. So people feel he can't improve as much since he's already close to being physically matured

I agree he's very solid on the floor. I'm sort of hesitant to say it, but he seems like a Phil kind of player.

Tend to agree with you on this...but he is not top 7 worthy, is he?

He would be a major reach at where we now are.

based on his year of play and the other players in the draft i say top 12 to 15 but ive seen him on some mocks going in the 20's just wondered why a nice player who has shown improvement and led his team far would be so lightly thought ofhe and the french pg would make two nice hauls IMO

I agree too. He is thought badly of because he is a junior so it's unlikely he has a lot of untapped potential and just began shooting well this year. However his skill set fits the triangle and he plays defense. He reminds me of Shane Battier but a better passer. However, Phil would have to get a late lottery pick to get him.

Would wonder about his ability as a defender in the NBA from the games I saw him play, but have not seen enough of him.

I'll bet he finds a place on a team in the league, but not as a starter...though who knows.

Yeah I don't see him as a instant starter in the league either. He would have to work his way into it, but he's shown the capacity to add to his game.

As for defense he was a key part defensively in stopping the run of that Fox , Monk led Kentucky team.

dacash wrote:why is justin jackson rated so low?i understand the other players are super but isnt he a damn good player too?

He's a junior I think it is the main reason. So people feel he can't improve as much since he's already close to being physically matured

I agree he's very solid on the floor. I'm sort of hesitant to say it, but he seems like a Phil kind of player.

Tend to agree with you on this...but he is not top 7 worthy, is he?

He would be a major reach at where we now are.

based on his year of play and the other players in the draft i say top 12 to 15 but ive seen him on some mocks going in the 20's just wondered why a nice player who has shown improvement and led his team far would be so lightly thought ofhe and the french pg would make two nice hauls IMO

I agree too. He is thought badly of because he is a junior so it's unlikely he has a lot of untapped potential and just began shooting well this year. However his skill set fits the triangle and he plays defense. He reminds me of Shane Battier but a better passer. However, Phil would have to get a late lottery pick to get him.

Reminds me more of Otto Potter because of his ability to pass as well.

dacash wrote:why is justin jackson rated so low?i understand the other players are super but isnt he a damn good player too?

He's a junior I think it is the main reason. So people feel he can't improve as much since he's already close to being physically matured

I agree he's very solid on the floor. I'm sort of hesitant to say it, but he seems like a Phil kind of player.

Tend to agree with you on this...but he is not top 7 worthy, is he?

He would be a major reach at where we now are.

based on his year of play and the other players in the draft i say top 12 to 15 but ive seen him on some mocks going in the 20's just wondered why a nice player who has shown improvement and led his team far would be so lightly thought ofhe and the french pg would make two nice hauls IMO

I agree too. He is thought badly of because he is a junior so it's unlikely he has a lot of untapped potential and just began shooting well this year. However his skill set fits the triangle and he plays defense. He reminds me of Shane Battier but a better passer. However, Phil would have to get a late lottery pick to get him.

Reminds me more of Otto Potter because of his ability to pass as well.

I like the Porter comparison better. Battier was a little tougher physically and less athletic. Porter needed time to develop and I think Justin will also. Just from a physical standpoint, Porter might have had a bit of a headstart.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick

Why do you suddenly like Ntilikina so much? He wasn't on your list before. I think he's a great prospect, but just wondering why your change. You said you can't draft a guy as skinny as him when you talked about needing big body players.

Check out Wesley Iwundu for our second round pick. He's a top 5 in the mocked second round in assists, good size for a SG, decent defender, and a senior. All the stuff Phil likes when taking a flyer on the second round. Another good sign he struggled to shoot as a underclass man but improved it as he got older which means he's a "learner".

Draftexpress have him mocked one pick ahead of ours on Draftexpress..... I think he fits the Phil's "ideal roleplayers" better than anyone else mocked in the second round.