I didn't have any external storage devices on my 1TB WD that I used as a copy, but I had an external HD connected to the stock HD when I first upgraded to 1TB. Strange how this setting was carried over. It hasn't finished rebooting yet, but I'm half-expecting to get the same drive 'limitation' others have gotten the external storage warning.

Anyways, when I opened my Tivo, I saw 2 bulging caps on the PSU mainboard, and the big yellow POT had some leakage.

Of course it isn't really a partition, it's the unpartitioned space, if any, at the end of the drive, but that's just the way that the Apple Partition Map does the accounting, but the tools don't count it as a partition when they count partitions, and they just overwrite it.

You can delete it with, if I remember my experiments correctly, some option in pdisk, but when you re-initialize (if you didn't use the space to create another "real" partition), it's right back there, like in a low-budget horror movie, but in this case, it's just a harmless accounting artifact.

I didn't have any external storage devices on my 1TB WD that I used as a copy, but I had an external HD connected to the stock HD when I first upgraded to 1TB. Strange how this setting was carried over. It hasn't finished rebooting yet, but I'm half-expecting to get the same drive 'limitation' others have gotten the external storage warning.

Anyways, when I opened my Tivo, I saw 2 bulging caps on the PSU mainboard, and the big yellow POT had some leakage.

Tivo has worked great tough, and haven't had any rebooting issues.

UPDATE:

157 hours.

time to dig up the stock 160 HD.

You should also start saving your allowance for power supply repair/replacement.

My already upgraded 750 GB harddrive just died and I'm going to upgrade to a 2 TB drive. I still have the original 160 GB drive, which I have already put back in the Tivo until I pick up the new drive. My question is

1) Do you need to do a "Clear & delete everything" before beginning the process?

2) When I put back the original harddrive, I am now getting the cablecard message from my cable company. I guess that information is stored on the harddrive? So what I'm wondering is if I have them reprogram it now (with the original 160 GB harddrive) and then I do the upgrade to the new drive, will I have to reprogram the cablecard yet again? That's why I'm hoping I don't have to do the "Clear & Delete everything" and that information would be transfered to the new drive...

In the past with my Series 2 Tivos, I replaced the hard drives proactively after about three or four years, and at the same time expanded to more capacity. For example, a Toshiba SD-H400 upgraded from the original 80GB drive to 160GB, then three years later upgrade from 160GB to 500GB. I never had any issues because I was always expanding to more capacity.

Now, with a THD upgraded to a 2TB drive using JMFS and WinMFS, I'm at the max size limit. If I want to proactively replace that drive in three years, the new drive will probably be no larger than the same 2TB, and it might be a couple of bits or bytes smaller depending on the brand/model. Using today's tools (JMFS, WinMFS), would I run into problems trying to copy to a drive with a bit less capacity?

In the past with my Series 2 Tivos, I replaced the hard drives proactively after about three or four years, and at the same time expanded to more capacity. For example, a Toshiba SD-H400 upgraded from the original 80GB drive to 160GB, then three years later upgrade from 160GB to 500GB. I never had any issues because I was always expanding to more capacity.

Now, with a THD upgraded to a 2TB drive using JMFS and WinMFS, I'm at the max size limit. If I want to proactively replace that drive in three years, the new drive will probably be no larger than the same 2TB, and it might be a couple of bits or bytes smaller depending on the brand/model. Using today's tools (JMFS, WinMFS), would I run into problems trying to copy to a drive with a bit less capacity?

Unfortunately yes, try using the same brand drive to avoid that too few bit problem.
One question I would have is if you made a copy from a 2Tb drive to a 3Tb drive and did not try to expand the copy would you have any problems ? as you would have only 2Tb of data on the 3 Tb drive.

Unfortunately yes, try using the same brand drive to avoid that too few bit problem.
One question I would have is if you made a copy from a 2Tb drive to a 3Tb drive and did not try to expand the copy would you have any problems ? as you would have only 2Tb of data on the 3 Tb drive.

The TP doesn't recognize a 3TB period. I copied the stock TP 320G to a 3TB and in the TP it just cycled thru the power up loop. Even though I didn't try the same process on the THD, it would be safe to say the THD won't recognize the 3TB either.

AS far as 2TB to 2TB...... it can't hurt to try. The only thing you lose is the 12-14 hrs to copy it!

The TP doesn't recognize a 3TB period. I copied the stock TP 320G to a 3TB and in the TP it just cycled thru the power up loop. Even though I didn't try the same process on the THD, it would be safe to say the THD won't recognize the 3TB either.

AS far as 2TB to 2TB...... it can't hurt to try. The only thing you lose is the 12-14 hrs to copy it!

So a 3Tb drive has no way to jumper down the size so older computers and TiVo will recognize the drive?

Older, smaller drives, in days gone by, have had jumper positions that would cause them to report themselves as smaller to keep older motherboard bios'es happy, but if your 3TB had such a thing, it would most likely be documented on the sticker on the top of the drive.

Another success to report. I was able to copy an already expanded WD 1 TB drive to a Seagate Barracuda Green ST2000DL003 2TB (about 6 hours to copy) and expand using JFMS. No supersize needed since I had already supersized the WD.

Another success to report. I was able to copy an already expanded WD 1 TB drive to a Seagate Barracuda Green ST2000DL003 2TB (about 6 hours to copy) and expand using JFMS. No supersize needed since I had already supersized the WD.

Hello 318 hours!

Nice! If you're happy with the acoustics can you post the Seagate model number if you have it? They are fairly new to the mix and IIRC at least one other person is using one successfully. Seagate has had their share of QC issues these past few years, but if these newer green drives work out it would be a good alternative to recommend for upgrades. TIA and enjoy!

It seems I spoke too soon about having success with a TivoHD and the Seagate ST2000DL003 2tb 5900 RPM green drive. I've had some weird freezes since the upgrade (frozen with a gray screen, but lights on the front of the Tivo). I'm now running a kickstart 57, but will downgrade back to my 1 TB western digital if this doesn't work.

Anyone else see this kind of weirdness after upgrading from an already expanded drive?

I successfully expanded my TivoHD from a supersized WD10EACS to a WD20EURS using only JMFS. Copy took 8-9 hours. Will have to use wdidle (haven't yet) as it hung at soft reboot. The WD20EURS has a manufacture date of 5/14/2011. 318 HD hours...yay!

Quote:

Originally Posted by unitron

Have you tried a soft reboot yet?

Last edited by spamjam : 07-10-2011 at 01:23 PM.
Reason: changed wdidle from no to yes due to unitron's comment

I successfully expanded my TivoHD from a supersized WD10EACS to a WD20EURS using only JMFS. Copy took 8-9 hours. The WD20EURS has a manufacture date of 5/14/2011. Did NOT have to use wdidle. 318 HD hours...yay!

Rats! I wasn't paying attention and forgot about the soft reboot problem and why wdidle is needed. I discovered my TiVo does hang at soft reboot, so I'll have to use wdidle. Haven't done so yet. I've edited my post above.

NOTE TO richsadams: you probably should edit your post that quotes my post.

I did last night and a few times this morning to make sure it was OK and it did great, and now TiVo pushed the update for me today and it rebooted and I'm looking at this welcome screen now for almost an hour so WDIDLE here I come!