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Mon. 11/11/13 3:36pm
tim from champaign:
How is time kept my astronauts? (This is not a joke or smart aleck question)

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Mon. 11/11/13 3:37pm
doca:
@DCE and Matt and all: I'm in Brazil, as I often say. The fact is that the East Coast just quited its Daylight Saving Time and we started ours, so time just skips ahead

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Mon. 11/11/13 3:38pm
Matt from Springfield:
@Scott: Bad Trips is starred, everything else that I try goes away after a couple secs. This happens sometimes on playlists, though I'm not sure of the particulars.

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Mon. 11/11/13 3:38pm
doca:
@tim: I wonder how they'll make when other planets are colonized? How will they establish an standard time? Perhaps a stellar date, just like in Star Trek, will be created

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Mon. 11/11/13 3:41pm
Matt from Springfield:
@tim: How is time kept BY astronauts you mean? I would think probably ITC time on Earth (unaffected by local DSTs, it's 20:41 Z time right now).

Other planets and satellites would have their own days/nights/years, so I would think a "stellar date" (as perceived at the Federation's mission control or something) would be the intergalactic standard on all ships and planets.

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Mon. 11/11/13 3:45pm
Ken From Hyde Park:
I found a nifty Firefox plugin, Foxclocks, that you can set up for a variety of places and their local times. It adjusts for DST, so you can keep up with what time it is for their locales. addons.mozilla.org...

Mon. 11/11/13 3:45pm
doca:
the questio is: how i will keep track of wfmu schedule when i'm on mars?

Mon. 11/11/13 3:46pm
doca:
oh what a terrible terrible news, i don't even know what to say

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Mon. 11/11/13 3:50pm
Scott Williams:
Matt, I see what you mean. My star went away, but the song stayed favorited. I'll take it to the Kenzo Powers

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Mon. 11/11/13 3:52pm
Matt from Springfield:
@doca/Marshall: There would be a standard delay in transmissions from Earth to Mars to calculate, plus that time doesn't run at the same "pace" everywhere (as per the Theory of Relativity), and with different days and years on Mars, the WFMU schedule could be calculated, but it would be all over the friggin map, not on the same time or day each Earth week.

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:01pm
Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):
Matt: Next time your clicky star seems to disappear - let it be. A minute or so later, does it come back?

There is an illusion of star disappearance that happens. Stardom is (or isn't) ephemeral.

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:02pm
doca:
@Marshall/Mfs: I thought the delay between Earth and Mars would be longer, but even counting the delay, by what reference would a Universal Time between Earth and Mars be established?

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:02pm
tim from champaign:
That's really terrible about Yellow Dogs. I can only imagine that the band members potentially risked jail time or death by playing western style music in Tehran. Then to keep their drive and passion alive by emigrating to the U.S. to keep playing only to be murdered over something they loved. That's really tragic.

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:05pm
Matt from Springfield:
Nice avatar Kenzo!
I refreshed my page, and the stars are staying! But when my stars go away, it doesn't log the song as Favorited; Scott's stars were going away but they were still Faved for him. Well, so long as my stars are permanent now and not ephemeral. Thanks!

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:06pm
steve:
nice! i didnt realize we could use animated gifs as avatars!

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:07pm
fred:
I think we all should proactively switch to Kenzo time. It's already ready for time-shifting, so a step ahead of relativity. For instance, now would be Scott+65, we'd have to come up with the right way of saying that

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:09pm
Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):
According to long-time WFMU pal Anil, the book "Stars in My Pocket Like Grains of Sand" addresses in part the complications of tenses when you live in a time travel world.

If someone (say, Bill Zurat) was filling in for this block, you could say "Bill Zurat vice Scott+65".

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:11pm
fred:
@Matt: it happens, I think there's a lag related to the DJ maybe entering additional information. I guess it should be permanent once the next track is displayed. The track shows up in your favorites though, sometimes with an empty star

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:13pm
fred:
@Matt: of course, schedule changes could make it hard to keep track of time over longer periods. Then there are fill-ins and archives and alternate streams. But Kenzo's show has been a great trying ground for time-warping experiments

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:14pm
Matt from Springfield:
@doca: Well because of the Theory of Relativity, 180 minutes on Earth might run at a different "pace" on Mars, but as long as the difference is a consistent, mathematical factor of Earth's time, a "universal time" between two planets could be calculated. Basically a "converter" that outputs Earth time and the equiv Mars time as the same value.

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:15pm
Matt from Springfield:
@fred: That's for sure! Kenzo has freed us from the burden of being on time, and shifts things around for us! :)

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:16pm
fred:
@steve: I thought of that, but how can it be "past" Scott when Scott is still on the air?

It's all about this gap period after a DJ changes the artist, track or album of a song you already favorited. You don't lose the favorite (it follows the DJ's edit), BUT your view of the playlist which hasn't yet reloaded is still displaying the old artist/track/album, and thinks it isn't a favorited song, or an existing song at all. As soon as your playlist view refreshes (might be a minute later), and the new artist/track/album is displayed, your star reappears, as your favorite was not really lost.

The problem is going to go away when the whole notion of the reloading page goes away, semi-soonish.

ON THE OTHER HAND, if you're really actually losing your favorite, I need to know (although I can imagine it has to do with a DJ deleting and recreating a song, which I can confirm if you give me an instance of it happening).

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:20pm
fred:
@Matt: I think Kenzo time will have each of us drift to our own timelines, which would probably fit most of us. Won't make meet-ups any easier though. Herd of cats, I'm telling you

@fred: That's true, particularly for us "Archivists"--the playlists are a living record, add to them at anytime!

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:26pm
Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):
Ike: It's literally just waiting for a nod from one person, and then the switch will be flipped, which should probably happen tomorrow. Thanks for your animated patience.

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:26pm
fred:
@Ike: Kenzo's earlier animated avatar looked like a "yes". When is a muddy question, as we've been discussing

Mon. 11/11/13 4:34pm
Droll:
[pondering talking with people who were here before but are not now, or will be here, but still aren't]
Sounds like 21st Century phone tag to me.

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:36pm
fred:
@Droll: try Kenzo's show, but don't procrastinate, it won't be here forever (well it will, but not in the same way)

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:37pm
Matt from Springfield:
It works best when EVERYONE comes later, like when the streams were down but radio was still up. The playlist and Archive appeared later that day, and the usual fans commented while listening, sometimes with each other when both were on at the same time.

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:43pm
Ken From Hyde Park:
A question for Kenzo, if I may. On the smartphone app, will there be a way to log in with our friendship IDs? I don't think that is currently possible, right?

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:44pm
fred:
It's called Ken's *last ever* radio extravaganza, after all. Maybe there's a reason for that. Maybe not. Why take a chance? Also, I think confusion is part of the point, and showing up early is allowed too

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:58pm
Matt from Springfield:
Not surprisingly, Linda moved in with her "Abnormal Psych" professor. She's a case study in it!

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Mon. 11/11/13 4:59pm
kirk from beer city usa:
tim, I had to look up annette peacock. this line was interesting:
In 1964, pianist Paul Bley first began featuring her avant-garde compositions - ultimately on over 60 records.
60 records?!

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Mon. 11/11/13 5:00pm
Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):
I'm adding "Fast Times" to my list of movie plots that would be rendered obsolete/impossible by the existence of internet and cell phones.

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Mon. 11/11/13 5:57pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
...I finally calmed down re ☆s not filling in ('sticking') - but still going to my (oversized) 'Favorites'
- but honestly it does make it harder to keep track which song in a still updating set you did or didn't want to ☆ if they doesn't 'fill in'...a minor inconvenience in a function that...*no* other station even has...