<dom> “The gist of the arguments against the proposal is the following: if the proposal was adopted, the browsers would end up showing the user an interface that appears to be a user-agent enforced privacy preference panel. However, since the privacy information is provided by the website, there is no way for the user-agent to ensure that the claims made by the website are actually true. This could result in the users being mislead by a user-agent prompt. This would brea

<dom> k the separation between the user-agent UI (which users trust) and the site content (which users don't necessarily trust) and would therefore undermine the user's trust in the user-agent, with extremely severe consequences for Web security.” http://www.w3.org/2008/geolocation/track/issues/10

…if you look at this more broadly is that the main objection in geolocation is "we've never done it this way, it would confuse users. It's better to read the privacy policy"

… the IETF was trying to change that model, with geopriv

… if DAP were to change the model, if would perhaps put pressure to go back to geolocation and fix it

fhirsch: I see a situation where both parties could be right

… privacy is an important concern, but it can also be complicated and confusing

jmorris: I completely agree. My view is not a simple thing, and I appreciate the evidence of browser makes, but would argue that the IETF approach has strong privacy-protecting defaults.

… so in most cases it would be simple, but others not so.

<jmorris> agreed on thinking more broadly than geopriv

fhirsch: we should perhaps not lock ourselves into geopriv for now, but look elsewhere, too

… We're focusing our work on access controls, which is separate. So we don't have requirements for policies.

… so we need something to work with. Any volunteers to write something up about models and requirements, choices, options?

… it could lead to a constructive discussion

… meanwhile I will send a response to the TAG saying thanks, it's hard, could you please help us and explain how you reached your decision

<Zakim> dom, you wanted to note Geolocation WG resolution on that topic