this makes perfect sense...it continues a new tradition of re-acquiring assets that were unnecessarily traded away in the first place.

i dunno what to think of the actual rumour (i won't call it a 'deal')...obviously more pieces would have to be involved (from the pacers, or a 3rd team) to make the $$ work. just skimming their roster, the only guy who MIGHT be obtainable and who i'd actually like to have on the raps is price (and i'm fairly 'meh' on him) - obviously, granger is the carrot, but they aren't trading him.

guess is the pacers are trying to unload dunleavy or murphy (though i'm not sure why, they're both big expiring contracts), and for some reason, might be willing to part with a decent actual big man (who plays like an actual decent big man) to obtain a decent PG (are they that starved for 'decent' PG play?). maybe calderon & evans for hibbert & dunleavy?

they can't think we'd take back ford...right? even he's an expiring. they actually don't have any big contracts after this season (save for granger). hmmm...seems like they're planning for the future or something...which makes it really strange they'd entertain dealing hibbert. i can't see this happening.

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Hibbert is kinda crap. He's a back-up C so I guess he'd be OK to have if we just want Amir and Davis platooning at PF. Dunleavy would be OK I suppose. That deal would be worse than the Diaw/Chandler deal that's for sure. Jordan is a dick.

I would love to see the Raps somehow acquire Granger/Hibbert for Calderon & ???, which I think would be an even better trade than the Diaw/Chandler trade that fell through.

With Dunleavy & George, it does potentially make Granger expendable, but obviously Calderon wouldn't be enough in return. I wonder if a Calderon/Evans/Miami's 1st round pick for Granger/Hibbert/Ford would be enough? Indiana would get rid of Ford's contract, get a 1st round pick and save almost $24M over the next 4 seasons, on top of getting the PG they apparently covet to run the offense for their young team. Toronto would get a great SF, a backup C and would either buy-out Ford or use his expiring contract in another trade (I am assuming).

As an FYI, comparing the salaries of Calderon & Granger, Granger is signed for 1 more year and will cost approx. $20.7M more over the next 4 seasons, according to figures on Hoopsworld.

What?!?! Not according to all those Raptor fans who saw dealing him away in the Jermaine O'Neal trade as such a heinous and franchise killing deal.

YKOil wrote:

Hibbert doesn't seem to make a lot of sense given how many big men the team has now.

The Raptors have a lot of big men, but Bargnani is the only center who you'd want to give minutes to. Hibbert would be a fine backup center, or low minute, temporary starting one, should they need him to be.

CalgaryRapsFan wrote:

I would love to see the Raps somehow acquire Granger/Hibbert for Calderon & ???, which I think would be an even better trade than the Diaw/Chandler trade that fell through.

With Dunleavy & George, it does potentially make Granger expendable, but obviously Calderon wouldn't be enough in return.

As an FYI, comparing the salaries of Calderon & Granger, Granger is signed for 1 more year and will cost approx. $20.7M more over the next 4 seasons...

I really like Granger, but he's way overpaid and would really only help the team get back to mediocrity. He's not good enough to be a main guy on a contender, and, at 27, is not a long term solution, which the Raptors should be focusing on now. Now if the Raptors could somehow get George....

I really like Granger, but he's way overpaid and would really only help the team get back to mediocrity. He's not good enough to be a main guy on a contender, and, at 27, is not a long term solution, which the Raptors should be focusing on now. Now if the Raptors could somehow get George....

I wish! I see Indi looking at rebuilding around George, with Granger and the expiring contracts of Ford/Dunleavy/Murphy/Foster as bait, but who knows what Indi is really thinking? lol