"ur a fag"

What ever happened to losing with dignity? And why am I the fag? My 1v1 record is 16-17, I'm no expert, but I never start name calling when I lose. Sure I get pissed off, but I type a "gg" and leave. You are the one that built a 6 pool. You are the one that rushed me with zerglings and I had to fight it off with my SCVs.

But I'm the fag because I did MMM and tanks while you were sitting on a stock pile of like 80 hydralisks trying to do a nydus worm.

With this same topic, I've noticed that over my 30 some 1v1s, the people that reply to my "gl hf" are generally the nicer people that talk to you even when you are winning.

Glad someone translated the "ur a fag" part. I had no idea what Ur meant. Well ok that's not true, where I live "Ur" means "Watch".. as in the one you use to tell time.

But hey, congrats on being trash talked by some 10 year old kid. I've also been called a bunch of things online, especially "noob" and "fag" .. "noob" I find funny though and it mostly happens in FPS' like TF2 or L4D, etc etc.

I really like that I'm the noob when it's the kid who is whining's head splattered all over a wall from my bullet-to-his-face shot.

I guess I've gotten lucky so far, I think the most insulting thing I've gotten is no gg when I win. =P But I will say there have been a couple of guys that I played that were good sports about losing (joking and chatting as I destroy their base). That being said when I lose I wil just say gg and surrender.

Also I kind of feel like the "gl hf" thing is weird because it doesn't really mean anything, it's just a weird greeting. I will only say it if my opponent says it first.

" Played a 1v1 yesterday,said my usual GL HF but the guy didn't respond. For some reason that really struck a chord with me. Ending up beating him with my 20 reaper strat,he just left no GG or anything. "

You really take "GL HF" that seriously? I'm not really into Starcraft but that sounds stupid to me. If people just want to come in and play without having to interact with their opponent, that's their choice. They shouldn't be looked down on for choosing not to fake some kind of faux sportsmanship tradition.

" I don't respond to glhf most the time too in league games, my hands are already moving and the first 5 minutes are hella important. I know it's wrong, but yeah...x.x. I do gg out like a good kid though, if things look bad. "

I don't even think about doing GG I just do it. Even when it wasn't a good game.

Only time I really use GG and GL HF, and mean it, are in real tournaments where there's money on the line. Playing some random jobber for nothing is just something I do without caring about the other player

@Diamond: And every community has casual players, kids and jerks. So I don't see why you would single WoW out. Also whats wrong with casual gamers? Probably 90% of the people on Giant Bomb are casuals who think they are hardcore.

" I guess I've gotten lucky so far, I think the most insulting thing I've gotten is no gg when I win. =P But I will say there have been a couple of guys that I played that were good sports about losing (joking and chatting as I destroy their base). That being said when I lose I wil just say gg and surrender. Also I kind of feel like the "gl hf" thing is weird because it doesn't really mean anything, it's just a weird greeting. I will only say it if my opponent says it first. "

I just use it as a "hey dude whats up" kind of greeting. It's like the team captains shaking hands before a football game, IMO.

But I did just watch the replay, that guy had to be pissed. Every time he tried to expand, I would happen to come across it some how or another and destroy it with my Vikings. By the end of the game when i was doing my drop, he finally managed to get an expansion, but he was down to like 50 minerals because he built some defenses to protect it.

Vikings verse Zerg that are massing ground units is awesome. I was just cruising the map destroying overseers.

" @Diamond: And every community has casual players, kids and jerks. So I don't see why you would single WoW out. Also whats wrong with casual gamers? Probably 90% of the people on Giant Bomb are casuals who think they are hardcore. "

Haha, "Casuals" and "hardcore".I'm sorry It just cracks me up everytime I hear that but that's mostly because I come from a background of gamers where all gamers are just that, Gamers. So the whole Casuals vs. Hardcore BS that so many teenagers has going on just to feel their tiny little E-peen grow a little bit but still be very tiny just seems silly to me :P Nothing personal it's just those words and their so called "meanings" :P

" I don't respond to glhf most the time too in league games, my hands are already moving and the first 5 minutes are hella important. I know it's wrong, but yeah...x.x. I do gg out like a good kid though, if things look bad. "

I just type it really quick after setting my rally point and i make my first SCV. It is faster to type those 4 letters than it takes to gather another 50 minerals.

@Diamond: And every community has casual players, kids and jerks. So I don't see why you would single WoW out. Also whats wrong with casual gamers? Probably 90% of the people on Giant Bomb are casuals who think they are hardcore.

Because lots of WoW gamers are buying Starcraft 2 not knowing much about what Starcraft 2 actually is. Those are the people that won't know what "GL HF" means. Those are the people not used to losing a 1v1 RTS battle and will get upset about it and lash out.

I don't think anywhere near that number of Giant Bomb users are casual. You have to be pretty close to hardcore to want to discuss gaming on a gaming forum in the first place. There's nothing wrong with those people but they won't know how to act in a competitive RTS game.

@ZeForgotten: I do agree with you to a point, but just calling everyone gamers is just to general. People do throw around the whole casual and hardcore thing way to often, and often use casual as a way to make fun of someone. There shouldn't be a battle between the two, and one should not be threatened by the other. That's just juvenile.

I always use the customary "gl hf" when the game starts, and a "gg" when it's over. If someone trounces me completely (I'm not very good) or beats me in a creative way, I'll complement them. I guess I'm Mr. Internet Nice Guy. Haha.

@Diamond: So you are mad that their are new players playing Starcraft? Thats a little selfish of you, everyone has to start somewhere. And its not like the original Starcraft, or Warcraft 3 3 were filled with honorable players. Just try being new in a Dota game, or in any of the SC custom games. It does not help things when you try to act elitist for playing a video game. The game is also new, less than a week old. Give people a chance to learn how to act, instead of condemning them.

Also I wouldn't be blaming WoW, I'd be blaming the widespread mainstream coverage of Starcraft. How many people from GB alone got the game because they saw Brad playing it. If anything WoW is filled with Starcraft and Warcraft players.

And your views on casual vs hardcore gaming are a little dated. If this was the year 2000, and people were posting and talking about video games maybe they would be a little hardcore. But not in 2010, everyone has a PC, and everyone uses it to talk online. Just playing and talking about video games does not make you "hardcore". I don't even like to use those terms, I just hate it when people trow them around to make themselves feel better about themselves.

My buddy and I used to get messages like this all the time when playing Chromehounds...unless our opponents were Japanese. In that case, if we got any messages at all after completely destroying them, it was always complimentary, "GG", or something like that.

Anyway, like others have said, welcome to the Internet, just be thankful you're not playing Starcraft 2 on your Xbox 360, it would be way worse.

" What ever happened to losing with dignity? And why am I the fag? My 1v1 record is 16-17, I'm no expert, but I never start name calling when I lose. Sure I get pissed off, but I type a "gg" and leave. You are the one that built a 6 pool. You are the one that rushed me with zerglings and I had to fight it off with my SCVs. But I'm the fag because I did MMM and tanks while you were sitting on a stock pile of like 80 hydralisks trying to do a nydus worm. With this same topic, I've noticed that over my 30 some 1v1s, the people that reply to my "gl hf" are generally the nicer people that talk to you even when you are winning. "

@Feanor: Did you just manage to not read a single word I said? Where did I say I was mad? WoW was far too popular to be made of Starcraft and Warcraft players... You can feel how you want about those terms but there are many WoW players who ONLY play WoW, and that's about as good of a definition of a casual gamer as any.

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Anyway, like others have said, welcome to the Internet, just be thankful you're not playing Starcraft 2 on your Xbox 360, it would be way worse.

@Diamond: Its not like everyone who played WoW ran out and bought Starcraft. The problem probably lies with kiddies who are not use to PC gaming, getting the game and playing it. It was over hyped and advertised all over the place. So communities like CoD are probably poisoning SC2, not WoW. Comparatively WoW has less ragers than most games. And I only see this being a problem in lower brackets. Most good veteran players are in the Gold bracket anyways. And if you are stuck playing mouth breathing noobs in the other brackets, you'd be dumb not to expect someone calling you a fag in chat.

" Never heard 'GL HF' before this thread. Was always just 'gg' back in my day, when all this was just fields. "

Now that is "back then". So far back that there were only fields and not even a single tree! Though GL HF has been used for a while and "Good Game" doesn't sound so good when the game hasn't started yet. At least not to me

Most of the players I have encountered have been fairly polite, wishing good luck and good game at the end. However, when I played a friend of mine I said "gg" out of habit and he told me to go fuck myself. I just began to laugh.

" Most of the players I have encountered have been fairly polite, wishing good luck and good game at the end. However, when I played a friend of mine I said "gg" out of habit and he told me to go fuck myself. I just began to laugh. "

@Feanor: I just think the WoW community is a much closer fit to SC2 than the console COD community. They're already gaming on PC and they love another Blizzard product they're currently playing. I agree there are everyday RTS playing jerks like in any community, but it's the people who don't normally play 1v1 games that don't know "GL HF".

You know what a big issue is in SC2 about the community and douche bags?

Blizzard is apparently suspending users who TK/Backstab team mates. It's a apparently really strong ban in League games if you can prove it, and even if you do it in customs. That's messed up, sure TKing in Ranked is a stupid thing to do...but when I'm with friends in customs, we TK each other all the time because it's a custom game and we know each other in person.

Plus, I think it just gets worse with age. The older users won't rage quit, and the Halo Generation tends to go all out nuker. Halo Generation being kids who started to game in the 2000s, and a lot of them more than likely play WoW...and WoW users are flocking to SC2...so yeah. x.x

Most of the players I have encountered have been fairly polite, wishing good luck and good game at the end. However, when I played a friend of mine I said "gg" out of habit and he told me to go fuck myself. I just began to laugh.

How is he still your friend then? O_o

He's not usually like that, he just gets really mad when he loses at a game, it's funny actually.

" @Feanor: I just think the WoW community is a much closer fit to SC2 than the console COD community. They're already gaming on PC and they love another Blizzard product they're currently playing. I agree there are everyday RTS playing jerks like in any community, but it's the people who don't normally play 1v1 games that don't know "GL HF". "