This is an interview with Dr Henry Niman about the swine flu and his insight into the WHO pandemic alert process and what he felt we could expect as
of late April. Let's see if the ATS media thing works:

The interview has been released for public use by the Jeff Rense show under the creative commons license.

I have a request, when you post a link would it be possible to get a summary of what you're posting a link to and what the point of it is?

There are so many researchers independent of the governments examining the virus, medical facilities around the world testing for it and gathering
samples it's highly doubtful they could "spray" a mycoplasma and tell everyone it's the flu.

Releasing a mycoplasma for pneumonia in addition to the flu virus might be a viable biological warfare tactic but I think someone would have detected
it in large quantities over numerous states and countries by now. I guess one never knows though if you really think about it.

A novel influenza A (H1N1) virus has spread rapidly across the globe. Judging its pandemic potential is difficult with limited data, but
nevertheless essential to inform appropriate health responses. By analyzing the outbreak in Mexico, early data on international spread, and viral
genetic diversity, we make an early assessment of transmissibility and severity. Our estimates suggest that 23,000 (range 6,000-32,000) individuals
had been infected in Mexico by late April, giving an estimated case fatality ratio (CFR) of 0.4% (range 0.3% to 1.5%) based on confirmed and
suspect deaths reported to that time. In a community outbreak in the small community of La Gloria, Veracruz no deaths were attributed to infection,
giving an upper 95% bound on CFR of 0.6%. Thus while substantial uncertainty remains, clinical severity appears less than that seen in 1918 but
comparable with that seen in 1957. Clinical attack rates in children in La Gloria were twice that in adults (

Mycoplasma is very hard to detect there is no way the average doctor or lab can find it look at the problem with the testing they are all chasing
there tails. Compare the two you decide. My point was I believe this is no accident could they do some thing like this I think so . Read what I posted
you decide. As for how I post im learning.

In that article they say Dr Guilford B. Reed released mosquitoes in Punta Gorda Florida in 1957. Dr Guilford B. Reed died in Febuary of 1955. After
seeing that problem with the article its hard for me to beleive any of it.

Many Swine Flu Cases Have No Fever
LAWRENCE K. ALTMAN
Published: May 12, 2009
Many people suffering from swine influenza, even those who are severely ill, do not have fever, an odd feature of the new virus that could increase
the difficulty of controlling the epidemic, said a leading American infectious-disease expert who examined cases in Mexico last week.

Fever is a hallmark of influenza, often rising abruptly to 104 degrees at the onset of illness. Because many infectious-disease experts consider fever
the most important sign of the disease, the presence of fever is a critical part of screening patients.

But about a third of the patients at two hospitals in Mexico City where the American expert, Dr. Richard P. Wenzel, consulted for four days last week
had no fever when screened, he said. www.nytimes.com...

I found this really interesting, particularly given many of us have been discussing the unusual temp drops some of us experienced.

Regardless of the difficulty in testing for mycoplasma the flu virus is pretty easy to detect and verify in samples. There is definitely a flu virus
so the theory that what we're seeing is actually a mycoplasma and not influenza would be less than ideal.

Hiding a mycoplasma which creates pneumonia within a flu virus is within the realm of possibility and given the way all the deaths are of a
secondary pneumonia infection the possibility is being examined closely by various experts.

@ecoparity, have you formulated a theory as to why Ill and Wisconsin have such a high number of cases? I keep wondering about this and haven't seen
anything that points to an explanation.

Just thought I would ask,
Thanks,
FMF

I just read an article about this but now I can't find it...strange how that happens. The gist of the article was Ill has more cases because they
were reporting all suspected cases of H1N1 whereas others were only reporting cases of patients that were hospitalized or had severe flu symptoms.

Regardless of the difficulty in testing for mycoplasma the flu virus is pretty easy to detect and verify in samples. There is definitely a flu virus
so the theory that what we're seeing is actually a mycoplasma and not influenza would be less than ideal.

Hiding a mycoplasma which creates pneumonia within a flu virus is within the realm of possibility and given the way all the deaths are of a
secondary pneumonia infection the possibility is being examined closely by various experts.

[edit on 12-5-2009 by ecoparity]

Huh? What the heck did you just say? I think I got lost - somewhere -.

Hey so what about this flu not causing fever?

What are the symptoms? You generally feel like crap, maybe vomit? Headache? I'm not sure at this point because to me, flu = fever and all that
goes with that.

The testing was done at the Washington State Public Laboratory and results were verified on Sunday, but it wasn't until Tuesday that the lab was
authorized by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta to issue confirmations.

The female crew member aboard the Serenade of the Seas became ill on May 2 and has since recovered after a course of treatment and CDC-recommended
7-day period of isolation.

No others aboard the ship have reported symptoms determined to be swine flu.

Alaska health officials say the case can't be considered Alaska's first case for several reasons, including that the woman became ill before
entering state waters.

BEIJING, May 13 (Xinhua) -- The worldwide confirmed A/H1N1 cases have reached around 5,914 as two more countries in Asia and Europe reported their
first known cases on Tuesday.

Thailand and Finland reported two cases each after Cuba earlier confirmed its first case in a Mexican student in Havana, bringing the total number
of countries with confirmed cases to 33.

In the United States, which has surpassed Mexico with most known cases, Tuesday reported that a total of 3,009 have tested positive of the virus
in 45 of its 50 states, with three deaths.

The number of confirmed cases on Monday was 2,600 in 44 states, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

The increase showed that the ongoing outbreak of A/H1N1 influenza continues to expand in the United States. CDC officials have said they expect
the A/H1N1 flu to spread to all 50 states, to cause severe disease and more deaths.

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