Post by BobWilliston on Dec 2, 2017 16:22:24 GMT -5

Regardless of what one considers the paranormal, there isadequate scientific evidence pointing to an event that could appropriately be called a big bang ... according tosimply mathematical calculations. I would think the absence of such an event would be greater evidence of something paranormal.

You’ll make headlines if you could prove the absence of anything(or event) is a “paranormal” , event? How could you determine”normal” ?

Could something be defined as paranormal, when it doesn’t exist??

I didn't say I could prove anything. What I meant was that if the lawsof physics as we commonly understand them somehow didn't work, then Iwould "guess" there was something abnormal/paranormal going on. Don'tworry, it was believers in the paranormal who actually made me skepticalof all claims of paranormal and miracle events. To recognize what it isyou don't know is to be more humble than claiming to know the paranormal.

Post by BobWilliston on Dec 2, 2017 16:38:35 GMT -5

If you believe there was a “Big Bang”, it would definitely Be the most paranormal event ever?

With God all things are possible. I believe that God was/ is able to create a big bang. I believe in God, father almighty, creator of Heaven and earth.

I'm not going to disagree with you. What I need to say is that I don't believe anyone knows what "God" is.Throughout the history of mankind he has always been the entity that causes things no one can explain.The god of modern Christianity is the result of continual morphing from time immemorable.

I believe in out culture today one can use the term god for the convenience of simply discussingevents that no one can explain, and not implying that it was the "will" of a "Christian god" thatthings as trivial as a causing a loaf of bread to fall off a shelf in the grocery store.What will we do if by some means it can be discovered that the big bang was the result of aprevious total university implosion. There is no end to what we in our generation could possiblyeven consider, considering the state of modern scientific discovery.

Post by Commonman on Dec 2, 2017 19:05:02 GMT -5

With God all things are possible. I believe that God was/ is able to create a big bang. I believe in God, father almighty, creator of Heaven and earth.

I'm not going to disagree with you. What I need to say is that I don't believe anyone knows what "God" is.Throughout the history of mankind he has always been the entity that causes things no one can explain.The god of modern Christianity is the result of continual morphing from time immemorable.

I believe in out culture today one can use the term god for the convenience of simply discussingevents that no one can explain, and not implying that it was the "will" of a "Christian god" thatthings as trivial as a causing a loaf of bread to fall off a shelf in the grocery store.What will we do if by some means it can be discovered that the big bang was the result of aprevious total university implosion. There is no end to what we in our generation could possiblyeven consider, considering the state of modern scientific discovery.

Just some thoughts.

As we all know , both the old and new testaments wereInspired to Hebrew writers, the gentiles were adopted intothis fellowship , through Paul , Peter, and others

Post by BobWilliston on Dec 2, 2017 23:21:47 GMT -5

I'm not going to disagree with you. What I need to say is that I don't believe anyone knows what "God" is.Throughout the history of mankind he has always been the entity that causes things no one can explain.The god of modern Christianity is the result of continual morphing from time immemorable.

I believe in out culture today one can use the term god for the convenience of simply discussingevents that no one can explain, and not implying that it was the "will" of a "Christian god" thatthings as trivial as a causing a loaf of bread to fall off a shelf in the grocery store.What will we do if by some means it can be discovered that the big bang was the result of aprevious total university implosion. There is no end to what we in our generation could possiblyeven consider, considering the state of modern scientific discovery.

Just some thoughts.

As we all know , both the old and new testaments wereInspired to Hebrew writers, the gentiles were adopted intothis fellowship , through Paul , Peter, and others

Just some thoughts. 2

You didn't "think" that, you were told that many times over andover again.

Post by dmmichgood on Dec 3, 2017 1:01:28 GMT -5

Regardless of what one considers the paranormal, there isadequate scientific evidence pointing to an event that could appropriately be called a big bang ... according tosimply mathematical calculations. I would think the absence of such an event would be greater evidence of something paranormal.

You’ll make headlines if you could prove the absence of anything(or event) is a “paranormal” , event? How could you determine”normal” ?

Could something be defined as paranormal, when it doesn’t exist??

Commonman, isn't that just the point?

How can anyone "prove" the absence of someone or something?

Isn't is the same with "paranormal" events as with a belief in a "supernatural "being called "god?"

When there is no evidence that a god existsthere is simply NO way to try to Prove He doesn't exist!

"Paranormal" events don't really exist either, so how do you go about trying to "prove" that they do NOT exist?

Post by enuf on Dec 3, 2017 12:20:50 GMT -5

You didn't "think" that, you were told that many times over andover again.

And this fellowship was first called “Christian” at Antioch?

I read that many many times ! 😉

The fellowship was first called Christian at Antioch or the followers of Jesus were called Christians? All believers are called Christians but not all church fellowships have the name Christian attached it. People who attend the Baptist Church for example are called Christians but the fellowship is called Baptist.

Post by BobWilliston on Dec 3, 2017 15:21:18 GMT -5

The fellowship was first called Christian at Antioch or the followers of Jesus were called Christians?

The followers of Jesus were only called "Jews". It was the Greeks who introduced the "Christ" theologyto followers of Paul.

Believers are called Christians but not all church fellowships have the name Christian attached it. People who attend the Baptist Church for example are called Christians but the fellowship is called Baptist.

Not really. Actually the Baptists and other fundamentalist denominations now usually call themselves "Christians"to the exclusion of all other non-fundamentalist Christians denominations.The practice is now so prevalent that I've heard kids say, "I'm not a Christian, I'm a Catholic."

Post by enuf on Dec 3, 2017 21:49:09 GMT -5

The fellowship was first called Christian at Antioch or the followers of Jesus were called Christians?

The followers of Jesus were only called "Jews". It was the Greeks who introduced the "Christ" theologyto followers of Paul.

Believers are called Christians but not all church fellowships have the name Christian attached it. People who attend the Baptist Church for example are called Christians but the fellowship is called Baptist.

Not really. Actually the Baptists and other fundamentalist denominations now usually call themselves "Christians"to the exclusion of all other non-fundamentalist Christians denominations.The practice is now so prevalent that I've heard kids say, "I'm not a Christian, I'm a Catholic."

The people are Christians but they attend the Baptist Church / fellowship

Post by BobWilliston on Dec 3, 2017 22:40:45 GMT -5

The followers of Jesus were only called "Jews". It was the Greeks who introduced the "Christ" theologyto followers of Paul.Not really. Actually the Baptists and other fundamentalist denominations now usually call themselves "Christians"to the exclusion of all other non-fundamentalist Christians denominations.The practice is now so prevalent that I've heard kids say, "I'm not a Christian, I'm a Catholic."

The people are Christians but they attend the Baptist Church / fellowship

Yes, I know. You made it sound like they didn't call themselves Christians.

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