Black & Decker EPC18CA Cordless Drill - 18V £29.99 @ Argos OR Amazon

The Black & Decker 18V Cordless Drill Driver is ideal for helping you with DIY tasks around the home and outdoors. As well as a comfortable soft grip handle, the lack of wires gives you unbelievable freedom as you work. Also including a 24 torque clutch, this drill is perfect for use with a variety of materials and different screw sizes.

I have this drill. It's fine for general day to day house DIY stuff. Decent price.

5th Dec 2013

Good price for 18V, heat

5th Dec 2013

Heat added. Cheers

5th Dec 2013

no battery charger as such. charger lead plugs into drill, so drill out of use if you have spare battery... and, no charge indication. also, only one speed and no hammer so useless in brick etc. not voted either way

5th Dec 2013

neiltd

no battery charger as such. charger lead plugs into drill, so drill out … no battery charger as such. charger lead plugs into drill, so drill out of use if you have spare battery... and, no charge indication. also, only one speed and no hammer so useless in brick etc. not voted either way

Was gonna order but after reading some reviews might hold off and pay a little extra and get one with those bits we all would like including the Hammer function & Box...but hey, you get what you pay for!However,for the Layman this is ideal for the general DIY round the house and it is 18v too....Have some Heat as will benefit someone

Edited by: "MRPRO_MO2012" 5th Dec 2013

5th Dec 2013

ild get something more expensive myself. i dont like black and deker

Banned

5th Dec 2013

Stanley Fat Max 18v last weekend were being knocked out at Homebase fot £85. Gr8, possibly the best, diy + drill. Just think, an extra £55 and you have a decent unit. Buy one.

5th Dec 2013

I can't believe they are still selling drills with NiCd batteries ........ how many times are you going to fully discharge this before you want to recharge it? Look for something with a NiMh battery or better

5th Dec 2013

Batesey

ild get something more expensive myself. i dont like black and deker

No point going for a Hitachi if it's only going to be used to put up a shelf or curtain pole a few times per year.

5th Dec 2013

anlygi

No point going for a Hitachi if it's only going to be used to put up a … No point going for a Hitachi if it's only going to be used to put up a shelf or curtain pole a few times per year.

Great deal for some unless your like me wanting to get things done it has a ten hour charge time just a thought? Great Christmas present though!

Edited by: "mmickk" 5th Dec 2013

5th Dec 2013

Goodfella123

£24.49 two years … £24.49 two years agohttp://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/black-decker-epc18ca-18-volt-1-2-ah-cordless-drill-24-49-amazon-black-friday-1066964

Black Friday deals are never included in camel price history bottom line, second best price, unless you have time machine

5th Dec 2013

Just bought a JCB 14V Lithium hammer drill from B&Q, £59.95 and a 5 year warranty, seems very well made, plenty good enough for home use.

5th Dec 2013

Save your cash and get a decent Hitachi with Li-ion, charger, hammer, two batteries etc etc. Paid £99 for mine years ago and it's been used at least 5 times a week without an issue.

Buy cheap, buy twice.

Heat added though, it is a good price!

Edited by: "HaroFreestyler" 5th Dec 2013

5th Dec 2013

Very low price but Ni-Cd not a good choice.

5th Dec 2013

I suspect some people may be a bit disappointed with this drill. B&D do three grades of drill, the "EPC" is the lightest duty range. I've have one of the 18V HP (the heaviest duty range) 2 gear hammer drills for about 4 years and it's had a lot of use and been rock solid. Whilst quite heavy in comparison to the best trade brands it hasn't put a foot wrong and has enough torque (42Nm) to show up many of the high priced alternatives. I got my HP with 2x 18V batteries, charger and carry case for around £50 and have been thrilled with it. The batteries whilst "only" NiCad have been rock solid. In general for high discharge applications like drills it's a case of apples and oranges. NiCad has some pros and cons, but then so does Li-Ion.....

If you just want a cheap drill then this EPC18CA seems like a good price. But make no mistake it is a cheap drill. The cons are that it isn't very powerful (12Nm), only has one gear, no speed control, doesn't have any hammer action (with only 12Nm torque it'd be pretty useless in concrete anyway) and probably only has plastic gears - so may not be very durable?

I've given this some heat (on price) but would suggest any serious DIY-er maybe consider spending a little more and getting something better quality.

Edited by: "qyestionmark" 5th Dec 2013

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5th Dec 2013

12N torque. A gnat can use this weakling. Avoid at all costs. Check the Fattie boy max out. Cheap as chips and works - with metal chuck n gearing(check) + 50N torque. Batteries at 1.5 Lion are a bit small and charge rapidly - but gr8 DIY tool. Does not match my AEG or Dewalt 3a and 4a cordless - but then again they cost several hundred pounds each.being designed for serious, serious applications. I have a fattie - bought for fun and whilst it is never used in anger i can confirm it is well built. All that for £85. (£70 really as i got the VAT back). Sorry OP your post is a no hoper and a total waste of money. Respect to you though.

5th Dec 2013

eggman

12N torque. A gnat can use this weakling. Avoid at all costs. Check the … 12N torque. A gnat can use this weakling. Avoid at all costs. Check the Fattie boy max out. Cheap as chips and works - with metal chuck n gearing(check) + 50N torque. Batteries at 1.5 Lion are a bit small and charge rapidly - but gr8 DIY tool. Does not match my AEG or Dewalt 3a and 4a cordless - but then again they cost several hundred pounds each.being designed for serious, serious applications. I have a fattie - bought for fun and whilst it is never used in anger i can confirm it is well built. All that for £85. (£70 really as i got the VAT back). Sorry OP your post is a no hoper and a total waste of money. Respect to you though.

Wow you really love your drills man oO

5th Dec 2013

Lots of tool snobs on today! I've got the 14v version of this, 3years old now, and it's fine for sensible use.. It's the right tool for many jobs, and I don't worry about losing it breaking it or getting it wet...

5th Dec 2013

I already have bosch drills but this is tempting at that price. V good find

6th Dec 2013

eggman

12N torque. A gnat can use this weakling. Avoid at all costs. Check the … 12N torque. A gnat can use this weakling. Avoid at all costs. Check the Fattie boy max out. Cheap as chips and works - with metal chuck n gearing(check) + 50N torque. Batteries at 1.5 Lion are a bit small and charge rapidly - but gr8 DIY tool. Does not match my AEG or Dewalt 3a and 4a cordless - but then again they cost several hundred pounds each.being designed for serious, serious applications. I have a fattie - bought for fun and whilst it is never used in anger i can confirm it is well built. All that for £85. (£70 really as i got the VAT back). Sorry OP your post is a no hoper and a total waste of money. Respect to you though.

Your 'enthusiasm' is quite scary! oO

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6th Dec 2013

Elvis F Christ

Lots of tool snobs on today! I've got the 14v version of this, 3years old … Lots of tool snobs on today! I've got the 14v version of this, 3years old now, and it's fine for sensible use.. It's the right tool for many jobs, and I don't worry about losing it breaking it or getting it wet...

The B & D is only fit for use as a heavy weight drill driver. To try and say otherwise is bonkers. Sorry OP. Ditto with regard to Ni cad power packs - they have kept the construction industry going well for years - great batteries when used correctly ie every day.

Lord, please keep man toys away from boys. Amen.

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6th Dec 2013

Elvis F Christ

Lots of tool snobs on today! I've got the 14v version of this, 3years old … Lots of tool snobs on today! I've got the 14v version of this, 3years old now, and it's fine for sensible use.. It's the right tool for many jobs, and I don't worry about losing it breaking it or getting it wet...

Ha, ha, ha, ha!

9th Dec 2013

Someone recommend me a good drill about £70 , lithium , 18 v , and got to be a bargain

Thanks , but no stockThat is only 12v , is it the torque or the volts that give it the power. I don't know much about these things

9th Dec 2013

I had this a few years ago for "gentle DIY".

It's shocking, such a crap drill & once the battery ceases charging, it's time for the bin....

9th Dec 2013

snoopy18

Thanks , but no stockThat is only 12v , is it the torque or the volts … Thanks , but no stockThat is only 12v , is it the torque or the volts that give it the power. I don't know much about these things

Torque is a twisting force. It is a measure of strength. A high torque is a good thing as it should mean the drill/driver can cope with demanding jobs. This drill is 35Nm which is very reasonable (though you'd like 50Nm+ if you are doing demanding jobs). The "power" would measure how quickly the torque can be delivered (you could get high torque simply through gearing, but there's little point if a drill has high torque but only spins slowly!). If you are serious about the specs you'd need to see the torque vs RPM chart.

The "power" stored in the batteries is voltage x current. These batteries are 12V 2Ah. The 12V isn't as good as the 18V on some drills, but the 2Ah means the packs are 24Wh, which is quite reasonable. Often an 18V battery will be 1.2Ah - the 18V sounds good, but the low Ah means they are actually poorer (at 21Wh) than this. The thing you want is as big a Wh rating as possible. 18V may be a bonus over 12V but it depends very much on how well the drill is designed and just talking about this figure alone is meaningless.

The three things you'd like in the numbers would be high torque, high RPM and high Wh (V x Ah).

HTH

9th Dec 2013

qyestionmark

Torque is a twisting force. It is a measure of strength. A high torque … Torque is a twisting force. It is a measure of strength. A high torque is a good thing as it should mean the drill/driver can cope with demanding jobs. This drill is 35Nm which is very reasonable (though you'd like 50Nm+ if you are doing demanding jobs). The "power" would measure how quickly the torque can be delivered (you could get high torque simply through gearing, but there's little point if a drill has high torque but only spins slowly!). If you are serious about the specs you'd need to see the torque vs RPM chart.The "power" stored in the batteries is voltage x current. These batteries are 12V 2Ah. The 12V isn't as good as the 18V on some drills, but the 2Ah means the packs are 24Wh, which is quite reasonable. Often an 18V battery will be 1.2Ah - the 18V sounds good, but the low Ah means they are actually poorer (at 21Wh) than this. The thing you want is as big a Wh rating as possible. 18V may be a bonus over 12V but it depends very much on how well the drill is designed and just talking about this figure alone is meaningless.The three things you'd like in the numbers would be high torque, high RPM and high Wh (V x Ah).HTH