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Looking more doubtful now as each day passes. The vote's been delayed...it's turning out he's been getting speaking $$$ from organizations with names like "Friends of Hamas"...and from Turkey. And he's refusing to give full disclosure on all the money he's taken and from whom.

Not even the White House is trying to defend him and they picked him.

IMO right now it's 60/40 against him making it.

However, if he is confirmed, the left won't say a word even though Hagel is a fake Republican because if he was chosen by the chosen one then he has to be good, right? No matter what. The left always looks past ant transgression as long at the person in question agrees with their world view.

Looking more doubtful now as each day passes. The vote's been delayed...it's turning out he's been getting speaking $$$ from organizations with names like "Friends of Hamas"...and from Turkey. And he's refusing to give full disclosure on all the money he's taken and from whom.

Not even the White House is trying to defend him and they picked him.

IMO right now it's 60/40 against him making it.

I did not see that. I think he will still get confirmed, though.

Originally Posted by NJCardFan

However, if he is confirmed, the left won't say a word even though Hagel is a fake Republican because if he was chosen by the chosen one then he has to be good, right? No matter what. The left always looks past ant transgression as long at the person in question agrees with their world view.

Yeah, as long as you agree with their ideology, you can get away with anything.

When he starts his national watermelon day, we'll know it's Gator. Another similarityto Gator is never answeromg a direct question. You can press and press for a reply, but he usually just ignores. That's classic Gator style.

Plus he uses the key words like neocon and does the anti-Israeli song and dance.

I think that he and Gator read a lot of the same sources and hold many of the same opinions, but Gator was a genuine anti-Semite, while Molon is (I hope) simply an extreme Libertarian in the Ron Paul mode, who seeks to minimize parts of the government that must not be weakened to the point where they can no longer function, specifically the DOD. He also has an irrational hatred of Bill Kristol and PNAC, and projects that on anyone who cites anything that they have written or presented. Ron Paul's inability to understand the dynamics of the Middle East and America's position in the world made him unsuitable for the presidency. It's unfortunate, because in those areas where he is right about the Constitution, he is absolutely on the side of the angels.

I did a fair share of ceremonies for seemingly innocuous civilian positions within the DoD and the Army after 2009. All of them had ties to the Clinton Administration or some Liberal think tank.

The potential replacement for Hagel...Michelle Flournoy was one of them.

She'll do just as much if not more damage to the DoD than Hagel.

I don't think Hagel's gonna make it...but the down side is that his potential replacement is worse.

Any Obama appointee will do as much damage as they can, but Hagel's performance in the hearings, his refusal to disclose his speaking engagements and affiliations and his history of supporting America's enemies make him an appalling choice. If he is confirmed after the way that he punted the hearings, then there is no point to holding hearings.