Actually, what the scientists are aiming for - if you read the article - is to merely be able to create the right conditions, and then allow life to form on its own. If such a thing happened, and if those conditions can come about naturally, then you're entirely wrong. They will have proven that no intelligent designer is needed.

Actually, what the scientists are aiming for - if you read the article - is to merely be able to create the right conditions, and then allow life to form on its own. If such a thing happened, and if those conditions can come about naturally, then you're entirely wrong. They will have proven that no intelligent designer is needed.

I'm sorry. Yeah, I read the article. I'm just saying that as of right now the cells were created. I read the part about them wanting to construct a cell with just enough genes to replicate and carry on all essential life functions. When that day comes.... wow!

Actually, what the scientists are aiming for - if you read the article - is to merely be able to create the right conditions, and then allow life to form on its own. If such a thing happened, and if those conditions can come about naturally, then you're entirely wrong. They will have proven that no intelligent designer is needed.

They're still creating the right conditions. Which is essentially what theistic evolutionists have been saying God did all along.

Actually, what the scientists are aiming for - if you read the article - is to merely be able to create the right conditions, and then allow life to form on its own. If such a thing happened, and if those conditions can come about naturally, then you're entirely wrong. They will have proven that no intelligent designer is needed.

Actually, what the scientists are aiming for - if you read the article - is to merely be able to create the right conditions, and then allow life to form on its own. If such a thing happened, and if those conditions can come about naturally, then you're entirely wrong. They will have proven that no intelligent designer is needed.

Irrelevant. The planet existing with the right conditions in the first place is the creator creating.

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The history of religion is a long attempt to reconcile old custom with new reason, to find a sound theory for an absurd practice. --Sir James George Frazer

If you're going to axiomatically define the entire universe as "created" then you cannot honestly pretend to be able to distinguish between things that are created and those that are not. Either all things are created, or nothing is created, and in either case there is no way of telling them apart.

There may well be a first-cause type of intelligent being who caused the Big Bang. Clearly something did. I see no reason to project human qualities (such as intelligence) onto it, though. That's just baseless speculation and mental masturbation.

Can you be more specific, then - what is it, exactly, that you think God did?

Beliefs on that matter vary greatly. Even in your own posts, you've expressed ideas ranging from God creating the universe, to God creating the sun, to God creating specific conditions on Earth. Which is it? Do you even know, or is this just an exercise where you try to fit your god into whatever gap he'll fit into?

Can you be more specific, then - what is it, exactly, that you think God did?

Beliefs on that matter vary greatly. Even in your own posts, you've expressed ideas ranging from God creating the universe, to God creating the sun, to God creating specific conditions on Earth. Which is it? Do you even know, or is this just an exercise where you try to fit your god into whatever gap he'll fit into?

I look forward to your clarifying, specific answer.

It's a matter of creating everything from one event. All it takes is the mathematical boundaries or constants + matter. Everything else naturally comes out of that. God doesn't even really need to do anything after the initial "blast".