Second, we need to define the "borders" of these waterways. If Nierr has taken this into account in his physical map creations I think we should listen to his suggestions first.

Third, we need to agree on a system of naming these waterways. The obvious would be the majority of nations who hold significant shoreline (I.E. an isolated island probably shouldn't grant that nations voting rights) voting for a name, but there's other methods worth trying.

Finally, name proposals can be put here as well.

Thoughts on all of the above are encouraged.

EDIT: As far as straits go, I think that's something that can be solved unanimously between the nations that share it if there's only 2 or 3, such as the Archlancer straits. If there isn't a unanimous decision among a greater number of nations then probably majority vote method? IRV?

Eldritch Horror that Plagues Eras Cartogrpahy

I am just going to restate my earlier position, no just no, especially for straits, rivers, and etc. These are things that are never agreed upon by countries.

My favorite example of this is what westerners call the South China Sea which in reality has like a dozen different regional names depending on where you live. Hell in this map I could see nations even disputing over the borders between different oceans and seas.

Hell on that map "Strait D" will always be called the Ilian Grand Sea, due to their control over its trade routes and its power in the area.

Speaker

For me, when I was making it, I considered Sea IV and Straits C and D (and to a latter extent F) to all be part of what I at the time called informally the Central Sea. Obviously with the creation of the new continents that shifted this sea out to the East, but it is, in my view, one sea.

Similarly, Seas I and II, and Straits A and B could be considered to be part of one sea, especially as the world is smaller than we think. GBM's claim, remember, is only marginally larger than the real life nation of Peru, and thus the landmasses within that area are as much islands as they are continents.

Sea III is actually more of a gulf, similar to the Bay of Biscay or the Mexican Gulf.

Oceans I through IV can all be said to be part of a larger Ocean Pacifica, as we share a plane with at least TEP and TSP.

The one, the true, the great.

For me, when I was making it, I considered Sea IV and Straits C and D (and to a latter extent F) to all be part of what I at the time called informally the Central Sea. Obviously with the creation of the new continents that shifted this sea out to the East, but it is, in my view, one sea.

Similarly, Seas I and II, and Straits A and B could be considered to be part of one sea, especially as the world is smaller than we think. GBM's claim, remember, is only marginally larger than the real life nation of Peru, and thus the landmasses within that area are as much islands as they are continents.

Sea III is actually more of a gulf, similar to the Bay of Biscay or the Mexican Gulf.

Oceans I through IV can all be said to be part of a larger Ocean Pacifica, as we share a plane with at least TEP and TSP.

We are roleplaying on a different planet. The people on that planet have no idea of what Earth is and what its standards of geography are. What is the size of a strait for us could well be a sea for Erasians, because their planet is much smaller than our own.

We are looking at this from the perspective of a Terran human. We must look at it from the perspective of an Erasian human.

Eldritch Horror that Plagues Eras Cartogrpahy

We are roleplaying on a different planet. The people on that planet have no idea of what Earth is and what its standards of geography are. What is the size of a strait for us could well be a sea for Erasians, because their planet is much smaller than our own.

We are looking at this from the perspective of a Terran human. We must look at it from the perspective of an Erasian human.

TNPer

Speaker

We are roleplaying on a different planet. The people on that planet have no idea of what Earth is and what its standards of geography are. What is the size of a strait for us could well be a sea for Erasians, because their planet is much smaller than our own.

We are looking at this from the perspective of a Terran human. We must look at it from the perspective of an Erasian human.

The one, the true, the great.

Perhaps the solution, then, is to make Eras earth-sized. This'd solve a number of problems, such as the sea problem and the population density problems a few nations have. Plus, we'd be able to use our knowledge of Earth's size and the data corresponding to it, as well as our perspectives on these (as we live on Earth) to our advantage.

Of air and darkness

As far as I understand the map, there should be no problem. Our map is TNP, there are other regions outside out map that exist on Eras. Therefore Eras is not some dwarf planet. It's like saying we should adjust the scale of the map of the Pacific so Earth's gravity works out OK without considering the rest of the Earth. The map scale isn't a problem, just picture a few other maps surrounding our map.

TNPer

We are roleplaying on a different planet. The people on that planet have no idea of what Earth is and what its standards of geography are. What is the size of a strait for us could well be a sea for Erasians, because their planet is much smaller than our own.

We are looking at this from the perspective of a Terran human. We must look at it from the perspective of an Erasian human.

Perhaps the solution, then, is to make Eras earth-sized. This'd solve a number of problems, such as the sea problem and the population density problems a few nations have. Plus, we'd be able to use our knowledge of Earth's size and the data corresponding to it, as well as our perspectives on these (as we live on Earth) to our advantage.

Stop trying to enforce your Syrixicentric naming conventions on the rest of us![note]Seriously, the idea that there is ONE TRUE NAME is completely flawed in a couple of different ways. First of all, our planet doesn't have a "proper name" - it's called "earth" because that's what it's made of. So unless in Syrixian "Eras" means "earth/soil/land/etc", it's nonsensical to call it that at all. It's an arbitrary choice, which is fine, but you can't claim arbitrary choices have any sort of significance for the rest of us.

Secondly, the english convention of calling it "earth" after our own word for land in our own language doesn't make that particular word special or unique even when we capitalize it. Each language has its own word for earth-meaning-land, and accordingly has its own word for earth-meaning-planet. In Italian, it's "la Terra"; in Arabic, it's al-'arD.

TNPer

We are roleplaying on a different planet. The people on that planet have no idea of what Earth is and what its standards of geography are. What is the size of a strait for us could well be a sea for Erasians, because their planet is much smaller than our own.

We are looking at this from the perspective of a Terran human. We must look at it from the perspective of an Erasian human.

Perhaps the solution, then, is to make Eras earth-sized. This'd solve a number of problems, such as the sea problem and the population density problems a few nations have. Plus, we'd be able to use our knowledge of Earth's size and the data corresponding to it, as well as our perspectives on these (as we live on Earth) to our advantage.

Stop trying to enforce your Syrixicentric naming conventions on the rest of us!Seriously, the idea that there is ONE TRUE NAME is completely flawed in a couple of different ways. First of all, our planet doesn't have a "proper name" - it's called "earth" because that's what it's made of. So unless in Syrixian "Eras" means "earth/soil/land/etc", it's nonsensical to call it that at all. It's an arbitrary choice, which is fine, but you can't claim arbitrary choices have any sort of significance for the rest of us.

Secondly, the english convention of calling it "earth" after our own word for land in our own language doesn't make that particular word special or unique even when we capitalize it. Each language has its own word for earth-meaning-land, and accordingly has its own word for earth-meaning-planet. In Italian, it's "la Terra"; in Arabic, it's al-'arD.

Speaker

Of course. It's never been the intention of this convention to force everyone to use one name to refer to something.

What it is for, however, is to establish some geographic norms that could go on the map, such as in real life. The Mediterranean Sea is known by many names, but the most common in use - in English anyway, is the Mediterranean. This is what I'd like to establish as well and I want the communities input on that.