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He has the absolute premium gig in the CFL. Very well compensated, complete control of the leagueís flagship franchise and a palace for a stadium to play in.

I agree, if he leaves us (and I have no doubt heíll jump ship in the next year or two) itíll be for a good NCAA gig or an NFL opportunity.

I don't know about the NFL position at this point. I say that because Jones likely wants more control than a NFL team is willing to give him. He might be happier going the NCAA route first where he would have more control, then make that leap to the NFL.

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I don't know about the NFL position at this point. I say that because Jones likely wants more control than a NFL team is willing to give him. He might be happier going the NCAA route first where he would have more control, then make that leap to the NFL.

Donít dispute that. In fact I can see him being a permanent in the NCAA. Just meant that apart from a good NCAA gig or some sort of coordinator position in the NFL nothing trumps what we have to offer.

Imagine being the GM in Toronto and bussing to practice facilities versus what we have here? Heís got it good here and I love that whoever sits in that chair is going to have all the resources they need at their disposal.

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Have you ever met or talked with Chris Jones? He doesn't think the way described in the bold at all. Every time I've met and talked with him he's been very accommodating. Very friendly, warm and positive. Once was right after a practice and he actually had people waiting for him but he still stood out in the parking lot and was talking to me, answering questions, telling me about the team. This is when the players hop on their buses or the coaches get into their Capital Ford trucks.

I find him anything but a snob or putting on airs or a "superior" attitude. I actually think this place reminds him of his southern roots and home. He'll look you in the eye and shake your hand, and make time for you. I hear he's very loyal and I can tell you, he has a great memory for faces.

I said "Hi coach" at a Red Sox game one evening. He smiled. But I'm not arguing any of this with you. I think its quite similar to Shivers as well. There are/were some here who knew and met Roy quite regularly, and he was an engaging and funny guy for us rail birds back then. However if you recall, the team removed him from being the "face" of the organization, because so many people found him distasteful to listen to or see interviewed. Didn't make it right then either.

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I said "Hi coach" at a Red Sox game one evening. He smiled. But I'm not arguing any of this with you. I think its quite similar to Shivers as well. There are/were some here who knew and met Roy quite regularly, and he was an engaging and funny guy for us rail birds back then. However if you recall, the team removed him from being the "face" of the organization, because so many people found him distasteful to listen to or see interviewed. Didn't make it right then either.

I agree with your Shivers analogy. Which is why I found it funny on here when the same people who were critical of Jones spent the same amount of energy defending Shivers back in the day. I just hope the QB position doesn't stop Jones from getting this team to the next step like HC did for Shivers.

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I agree with your Shivers analogy. Which is why I found it funny on here when the same people who were critical of Jones spent the same amount of energy defending Shivers back in the day. I just hope the QB position doesn't stop Jones from getting this team to the next step like HC did for Shivers.

Agreed. Loyalty to a coach who was also a friend was ultimately Shivers' undoing, I hope it doesn't become Jones' as well.

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Donít dispute that. In fact I can see him being a permanent in the NCAA. Just meant that apart from a good NCAA gig or some sort of coordinator position in the NFL nothing trumps what we have to offer.

Imagine being the GM in Toronto and bussing to practice facilities versus what we have here? Heís got it good here and I love that whoever sits in that chair is going to have all the resources they need at their disposal.

The practice facility in Toronto is a 10 minute walk from the locker room.

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My mistake. Still seems amateur though. Do they walk single file holding their equipment?

They still bus, just to arrive as a team. They have to cross the GO Train tracks to get to Liberty Village from BMO Field. My point is that the trek is no longer across town to various school yards.

As for your comment about walking single file holding their equipment... that's not far off from what the Riders did, walking from the old locker room to the practice field. Not sure I see what's 'amateur' about it.

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They still bus, just to arrive as a team. They have to cross the GO Train tracks to get to Liberty Village from BMO Field. My point is that the trek is no longer across town to various school yards.

As for your comment about walking single file holding their equipment... that's not far off from what the Riders did, walking from the old locker room to the practice field. Not sure I see what's 'amateur' about it.

While listening to Green Zone yesterday, I was kinds taken by the question that host Nye posed: should CJ have been allowed to leave? If an NFL out is in his contract, there's no question of allowing it. When CJ dropped the dime to Reynolds, it was to inform, not ask permission.

While listening to Green Zone yesterday, I was kinds taken by the question that host Nye posed: should CJ have been allowed to leave? If an NFL out is in his contract, there's no question of allowing it. When CJ dropped the dime to Reynolds, it was to inform, not ask permission.

If you say no to that, the Riders immediately get a terrible reputation of not letting people "move up." Then say goodbye to attracting quality, high level people in the future. I'm sorry, but that's the name of the game these days.

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If you say no to that, the Riders immediately get a terrible reputation of not letting people "move up." Then say goodbye to attracting quality, high level people in the future. I'm sorry, but that's the name of the game these days.

In this case, for sure. But where is the limit? They were talking about this on the radio. Could a coach or GM just up and leave mid season if an NFL gig came up?