A blog calling the Cracked staff out on their poor handling of what will go down in Cracked history as the "John Cheese Incident."

Saturday, December 8, 2012

A Disturbing Pattern Of Behavior

One that has gone on for years in the Cracked forum. Their recent actions have been repeated over and over again. If you fire up Tor browser, (it hides your IP address, or gives you a fake one, if you so choose), create a new account, but DON'T login, you can ghost the forum. The things you will find there will destroy any lingering doubts you have about "overreacting" commenters. I may try and document them eventually, but it's literally almost overwhelming.

This why they are trying so desperately to shut this matter down, by banning/deleting accounts and comments, (even now, a week later), lying about death threats from the commenters, (there were NONE. I lived at that article for three days straight. Never happened), making access to the forum airtight and washing their hands of the whole mess.

Because they know how the internet works. Big comedy website belittles and ridicules it's own audience? You think you've seen "butthurt" already, guess what?

43 comments:

Perfect example of their douchebaggery. Some flunky writer at Cracked has posted a long personal attack on me, lol.Check this out:

Ono-Sendai just took over that blog.This is brilliant! He’s entering into a battle of words with Cracked writers. That’s like a mosquito challenging a 18 wheeler to a headbutting competition.

Pretty much reaffirms what we thought already: Actual Cracked writers are coming here as anons to attack us, AFTER we've all been banned. And this is a week later, wtf? See how scared they are? Otherwise, why even bother?

It's the only explanation I can come up with. If we really are "000000.1%" of their audience, why would they even acknowledge our existence? It's all good, everything they say shows the truth in what we're saying. Hell, they are doing our job for us, lol.

I don't post anonymously. Just been lurking for my own amusement.Now that I've been outed do you mind if I ask you a question?

You said that you guys got banned purely because you argued with Wong and Cheese. Now, I don't know about the others but before you were banned I saw that you had gone apeshit in the comment section, replying to every new comment, telling people to suck cocks and calling people "faggs". No matter what prompted you to go off on that spiel do you not think that it was adequate grounds for a ban?Your pal,Flunky Cracked Writer

Look, bud. I was molested as a child, I would NEVER use those words, understand? That was someone cloning me, everybody knew it. They even had the EXACT SAME USERNAME. How is that even possible, unless it was someone in the Cracked hierarchy trying to make me look bad? Christ...

And look, I didn't mean to insult all the writers there with that "flunky" crack. Just the ones coming over here and personally attacking me. Hell, I've been banned with all my comments, and friends gone, why do you people give a shit enough to even come over here?

Dick, I was under the impression no one who had seen OnoSendai ever post before, would fall for that fake account. Even though he somehow managed to clone his username and thus fooling you if you simply glanced at his replies, his style was so outlandish that it was obvious it wasn't really OnoSendai.

But if your misconception was based purely on that imposter because you weren't at all familiar with OS, I can understand your opinion to a degree. Now that you know, the ball is in your court.

Obvious to who? The 50 or so people who visit the comment section every day?If you're account was hacked the more usual course of action is to report it. Say "Hey my account was hacked by a 13 year old with ADD. None of that shit was me".Apparently the runner up course of action is to assume the head editor of the biggest comedy site in the world is out to get you personally and then set up a blog where you portray him as a cross between The Emperor from Star Wars and Hitler.

"The Cracked hierarchy"? Look mate, they're not the Illuminati. They don't set people up to make them look bad. Not when they can just ban people. If what you guys were doing before was so dear to you then just go back to doing it. Clearly you've all managed to set up some alts. You're not going to get an apology and you're not going to get your accounts back.Hope you continue to enjoy the articles

"You're not going to get an apology and you're not going to get your accounts back."

Not what I personally am after anyway. What I want is to spread the word about how Cheese and Wong are massive assholes. I don't want anyone else to be taken in by Cheese's fake "grumpy but kind-hearted" persona, because the truth is that he's a complete and utter douchebag, and he keeps hurting people who thought well of him.

Not that I'm exactly devoted my entire time to this, don't you worry :P

And you'll forgive me if I find that hard to believe since Wong runs the best place on the web for new writers. Giving people like me, who never had any experience prior to signing up to the workshop, an audience of hundreds of thousands. Him and his team go through thousands of pitches a week and leave feedback on all of them. Cheese also runs a place in the forum that helps people quit drinking. He's helped a lot of people in the PWOT community stay off the drink. His articles have also helped me personally.The suggestion that these two people are arseholes just doesn't hold water to me.I won't post here any further because I can just see this ending up in an endless back and forth between two sides that will never agree. I posted originally because OS suggested that I've been attacking people anonymously and that's not something I care to be associated with. If I wanted slag someone off you can be sure that my name will be right beside whatever I wrote.

Anyone who puts the words "I fuck children" in the mouth of hundreds of innocent people is an asshole.

Anyone who describes hundreds of innocent people as "cockroaches" or "shit-smearing toddlers" is an asshole.

One can DO good and still BE an asshole.

You, Dick, can choose to see only the good things these two assholes do. That's your right. But that doesn't change the fact that they are assholes who hurt people on a regular basis (this isn't the first time they've done something like this). It's our right in turn to want to expose that dark side of them.

Oh my god guys! Every time! Every time I come back it gets worse and worse! OnoSendai's post history, (http://www.cracked.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=276804;area=showposts;sa=messages) you yourself claiming to have "lived at that article for three days straight", this claim that your user name was cloned and that's who really left all those nasty comments. Even if that last part was true, WHY ARE YOU UPSET ABOUT BEING BANNED? They saw comments under your name that were horrible, and they banned you. It doesn't matter if it wasn't you because THEY DON'T KNOW THAT. How is it such an injustice then? This whole thing is so depressing.

By the way, we aren't coming back here because we're 'scared' of your truth-bullets or anything like that. For the most part, it's a combination of frustration at how diluted this blog is and amusement at how diluted this blog is. Mostly it just makes me sad, and so for some reason I can't stop myself from trying to explain the logic of the situation. Something tells me it's not working. No offense, but I'm starting to suspect that you guys aren't actually smart people.

Pretty sure he didn't specifically address you by name, but no, there's nothing wrong with being upset about something a comedian said. It happens all the time to people - most of which simply stop paying attention to said comedian.

You, on the other hand, have taken a... different approach by obsessively enveloping yourself in said comedian... a man who you do not actually know personally, but you can't stop talking about.

I've met a few people who were abused as children, and I don't wish to generalize but it seems like the healthy course that they all seemed to eventually gravitate towards is not letting it take over their lives. The fact that this one guy's random insult on an internet forum has set you off so incredibly is understandable at first, but after a week of it you should probably move on. Why let this drive you up the wall so much?

So yes, you totally have a right to be upset about anything you want, but why are you building a monument to that? Go to a forum devoted to people who have had similar experiences to you as a kid, where you can talk about it openly and confront it. Don't use one guy to channel all that anger. It's not healthy.

You hearing this, delwynmarch? Do you really want to just be on the side of "Oh, shut up?". I'm not saying you have to like anything that happened on Cracked. Seriously, I'm not here advocating for that site at all. But this kind of self wallowing and denial in the face of reason is, once more, just not healthy.

When Cheese called us all "child fuckers", I was hurt. I was hurt because what he said was hurtful, but also because I could see it was coming from a place of complete delusion about the people in the Cracked comments section. The way he kept speaking of the commenters simply didn't reflect the way the commenters actually acted. So I was hurt, and I could see - or so I thought at the time - that he was hurt too.

So I went to speak to him. On his forum thread. There I explained to him that he was wrong about the commenters hating him, and that on the contrary most of the commenters loved him. Then I explained to him that BECAUSE they love him, a lot of the commenters had been hurt by his hurtful comments. And finally I pleaded with him to stop his hateful campaign against a non-existent Cracked comments section full of hateful trolls, and to be again the Big Bro John Cheese we loved.

His answer was to RAVE at me. He refused to discuss any of my points. He insulted me. He raged and raged and raged about how the comments section was a pit full of death-threat-making sociopaths, and how he would ALWAYS bash on it.

And when I quoted HIS OWN ARTICLE on how to behave properly in such cases, and asked him to apply it to this case as well, he banned me.

I'm not the one who is acting in a delusional and unhealthy way here. Cheese and Wong are. These people are DELIBERATELY hurtful. John Cheese is a textbook troll. David Wong abuses his power as a site administrator.

Exposing them for what they are is NOT unhealthy nor a waste of time. On the contrary: it's the right thing to do.

PS: you're not my shrink. You don't get to tell me how I should deal with things, or when it's time to move on from something. As a matter of fact, even my shrink doesn't do that, because he knows that this is not how healing works.

You were insulted by a comedian you liked on the internet and banned. I'm not arguing whether or not it was fair. The problem is that to everyone neutral to this, you're not 'exposing' anything. You have no evidence and even if you did, it's of a minor confrontation on an internet forum. You aren't taking on the White House. Even if you win, nothing happens. John Cheese won't be fired, Cracked won't shut its doors. The people you are fighting against are working on their next articles - completely unchanged. The only people you are affecting are yourselves.

I'm not trying to be mean, but this blog just seems like a few people carrying a grudge about another person who most people don't really know anything about. It's a misery pool.

So yes - I do know what happened, I've read everything you wrote about it. But I don't see how that makes this any better for you.

Honestly, despite OnoSendai's paranoia, no one is trying to cover up the truth. The people opposing you on this blog are either morbidly curious or genuinely concerned. I wish I could say I was only one or the other, but it's probably a little of both.

"The problem is that to everyone neutral to this, you're not 'exposing' anything."

Not true. We have convinced a few people in the Cracked comments section that Cheese and Wong are assholes. One person at a time is fine with me, and it's what is happening.

"Even if you win,"

That's where your mistake is. You see this only in the light of winning or losing. But this is not about that; it's only about fighting. And no, fighting is not necessarily about winning or losing. Quite often, the fight is its own goal and justification for existing.

" The only people you are affecting are yourselves. "

You say it like it's a bad thing. Does that mean you really don't see how this is affecting us in a POSITIVE way? Why are you so fixated on the idea that this is bad for us? Can't you conceive at all that we are enjoying this and that it allows us to work out our frustration?

"no one is trying to cover up the truth"

You can't be serious. Banning people, deleting hundreds of comments, rewriting history: those are the textbook signs of "covering the truth".

The term you're looking for is "deluded" Brainiac. Who's not smart? I could care less why you come here, it's just another pagehit, thanks. I honestly don't care what any of you stooges think, how can I make that more clear? Scared, much?

"Spelling"? He had the entire word wrong, genius. You stooges aren't very bright, to be Cracked writers. Man..."Casting aside everything he said". Don't you people get it, yet? WE DON'T FUCKING CARE WHAT YOU THINK. How much plainer can it be? This site isn't for you stooges, you're lucky to be able to even post here. If we followed Cracked's asinine example, there would be many less comments here by Cracked sheeple.

You can't ruffle us, or denigrate us, or even reason with us. You cattle are dead to us. We are doing what we are doing until WE decide to stop doing it. Is any part of this getting through to your minuscule thing you call a brain?

Please learn the TRUE meaning of ironic. This blog is FOR US, so deleting comments that are critical of us would be the OPPOSITE of ironic.

All that said, I hope Ono won't delete critical comments, because the more you guys talk, the more obvious you make it that you have no idea what happened and are just out to shut us up no matter what. So basically, you're making our point. Now that IS ironic.