The journo's are rightly pointing a finger or two at the recruitment which obviously failed on it's prime job this summer. I just can't see Moshiri have a full clear out of what only 12 months ago was the vision of our future.

Has the headcoach/director of football ever been successful in the PL?

Fucking hell, mate. Until Koeman or some other manager takes us down to League One, that's completely uncalled for.

Why edit my post . The compared to this bit is relevant . We are worse now than after the Sunderland game when Martinez got sacked . He was no worse than Koeman . We have wasted all the money we have and this idiot has completely destroyed the confidence of virtually everyone at the club . He had form for it at Valencia when the expectation on HIM was at his highest in his career as a Manager . He has done the same again here .

Why edit my post . The compared to this bit is relevant . We are worse now than after the Sunderland game when Martinez got sacked . He was no worse than Koeman . We have wasted all the money we have and this idiot has completely destroyed the confidence of virtually everyone at the club . He had form for it at Valencia when the expectation on HIM was at his highest in his career as a Manager . He has done the same again here .

That's true about being worse now. Martinez's football philosophy was wrong we still had a good team that was balanced and had some confidence. Koeman & Walsh have completely trashed the team in just about every facet imaginable. Like you say he does have form in this area.

When this type of situation arises, I'm normally for caution. But can't see him turning this around. Agree no one will want their first match to be Chelsea away, all be it in the League Cup. Its going to be a written off match as the league takes priority, but defeats breed defeats. Even a greatly changed Chelsea side will likely hammer us.