Ron started at a WMCA...then moved to a community center...then a basement in an old boy's club...then we moved to a health and fitness center backroom for a month...then to a garage in a storage unit for 14 years...for 7 years we also had a smaller second dojo. We commuted 50 miles to teach there. Now we have our own dojo at our house...it took 26 years.

All along we both taught at colleges...we did demonstrations every chance we could and did a lot of marketing.

We don't have a payroll...because he and I are the only teachers. We are married and we don't get paid. The dojo pays for itself....including insurance, supplies and our home equity loan that we borrowed to build it.