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My little saw came with a 20" .325" .050 80DL bar that is now done. Took it to a local shop and they sold me a pro-lite plus 20" .325" .050 78DL bar. Didn't put it on for a couple weeks to find the mistake, don't have the receipt and they won't exchange it.

I have 4 new 80DL chains and 4 currently in rotation. I assume the cheapest thing for me to do is remove 2 links from them and use the bar I can't return? Is shortening my chains something I can/should try myself? I have an Oregon chain breaker and rivet spinner but have neither used nor seen them used before.

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I'd find a new shop if they wouldn't exchange an unused bar. That's not very nice.

I bought a 28" Windsor bar and a couple of chains from Bailey's. The catalog said 93 drive links, the bar said 92. They worked for a while, but now they're stretched too far and won't tighten up. I have a friend with a breaker and spinner, and he conveniently stopped in yesterday. I sent the chains with him. I'll get them back Monday. I suppose I should pick up a 12 pack

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I'd find a new shop if they wouldn't exchange an unused bar. That's not very nice.

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I had a good local shop I enjoyed going into. One time I broke a throttle trigger on my 084 STIHL, I called and was told it was out of stock but they would have it there on the following stock order. I asked if they would call as soon as it came in as I needed my 084 for a big job, he said sure. When I get there the next week I run into the owner and he started giving me crap about special orders. I told him it was not a special order and he continued with his rant. I looked at the guy I usually talked to and he just looked at me, no help! I did get my parts but I will never go back and tell everyone I know do not do business with them. I also have heard the same from other people. >:-(

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That's on me not the shop. I have only been there the one time as it is on the other side of town and it was weeks before I found the mistake. The bar they gave me showed up on Bailey's look up tool so not unreasonable.

Does every chain have a master? I think I only found one on one of the chains. The rest of them appeared to be normal links with different labels on them than the rest of the chain? The spinner didn't seem to have any problem getting them back together.

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The chain I have seen does not have a "master" link like a bike chain. Sometimes stihl has a yellow color tie plate. I think they do that so you can see it, I am not sure. I spin up a fair bit of chain Husky, Oregon, Stihl, and the tie plates are the same as the rest, just with new rivets ready to go. The thought also occured to me that you may be looking at a "stock" or "safety chain" with the anit kick back plates and stuff, those may have some sort of "master" link. I am only familiar with the more agressive skip tooth, pro type chain

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Hmm, I'm not up on that part number. As I said before all the saws I use are pro saws. You did say in the OP that it was a 325 pitch, all of my stuff is micro for the MS200T or 3/8 skip for all the others. I don't know what it looks like.

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I'm confused. If you have a 20" chain that has 80 links in it and then you take out 2DLs you don't have a 20" chain anymore. DL frequency is important because of nose sprocket and drive. If you have an 80DL chain then the DLs are gonna be shorter than a chain with 78.

Imagine a guy with big feet vs a guy with little feet. You say how many of your feet (not 12") is this room wide? Guy with big feet say 15, guy with little feet says 19. DL size is like shoe size, it changes for each chain.

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I was/largely still am confused by the same thing Danno. The original Jonsered bar was 80DL and the Oregon Pro Lite Plus is 78DL. All other specs are the same and both claim to be 20" bars. Brand new 80DL chain fits perfect on saw/Jonsered bar. Take 2 DL out and the the same new chain fits perfect on the saw/Oregon bar.

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I'm confused. If you have a 20" chain that has 80 links in it and then you take out 2DLs you don't have a 20" chain anymore. DL frequency is important because of nose sprocket and drive. If you have an 80DL chain then the DLs are gonna be shorter than a chain with 78.

Imagine a guy with big feet vs a guy with little feet. You say how many of your feet (not 12") is this room wide? Guy with big feet say 15, guy with little feet says 19. DL size is like shoe size, it changes for each chain.

Not all bars are created equal(ly). As long as the drive sprocket and bar sprocket are appropriate, it doesn't matter how many drive links are in the chain. As long as it fits and tensions up right. Like I said above, apparently the Windsor bar is different from the OEM bar, which I assume is Oregon.

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The effective cutting length of the original bar was about an inch and a quarter longer than the new one.

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Which would be good for about 4+ DLs, except the new bar is wider than the old. Gotcha. Sorry to be so confused about something so simple. As long as the pitch is the same, then I guess you should be ok.

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I'm confused. If you have a 20" chain that has 80 links in it and then you take out 2DLs you don't have a 20" chain anymore.

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Sure you can. It can be due to the guide bar nose radius or overall bar height, powerhead drive sprocket diameter or number of drives, or a combination of both.

DL frequency is important because of nose sprocket and drive. If you have an 80DL chain then the DLs are gonna be shorter than a chain with 78.

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I'm not following you here. Do you mean to say that a chain with 78 drive links is 2 drive links shorter than a chain with 80 drive links? Of course it is. The frequency is important in such that all drive links are spaced evenly to run correctly in your powerhead drive. (Technically, the drive and guide bar sprocket could care less about cutters.)