I have been searching the internet high and low for information on how to recreate the flamboyant hairstyles of Marie Antoinette and her friends, but the only information I have found is in German!

Does anyone know where I might be able to find this information? If it isn't on the internet, I am willing to buy a book if it's out there

Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:54 pm

Adrienne

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Where is your German information from Rose? I have some German language skills and I'm sure there are others here too who may be able to help you translate the information that you already have.

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Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:02 am

melly

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Re: 18th century bouffants and coiffs

Rose Bertin wrote:

I have been searching the internet high and low for information on how to recreate the flamboyant hairstyles of Marie Antoinette and her friends, but the only information I have found is in German!

Does anyone know where I might be able to find this information? If it isn't on the internet, I am willing to buy a book if it's out there

You should post the German Internet address.

There are some interviews with Kristen Dunst where she talks about the hair for the movie, it took hours and to make and how tired she was. She said they used tons and tons of hair spray and powder. I am sure they used hair pieces and wigs in the movie also.

Sorry I am not much help.

I would love to know, is this something you are doing to your own hair?

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Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:06 am

Arietta

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I suggest you visit the nearest college library or the public library for books on costume and fashion.

just click on the hair style you want to see. I am, of course, most interested in the giant La Belle Poule

Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:47 am

Vittoria Francesca Savoia

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I try to translate "La belle poule" from German into English... That's the first part (Sorry if you find mistakes in the English translation but I have to translate into italian before doing the English version)

Picture n.1 Before beginning with the creation of this hairdo, you have to backcomb hair and coat them with powder. After that you have to divide hair on the head like in the picture and plait them starting from the middle part, or make two fixed plaits and tie them in a knot: in this way you will have a basis for the hairdo

Picture n. 2 Now you have to fix oh the head the structure shown in Picutre n. 6. After that you have to spread the backcombed hair on the structure, in order to obtain the shape shown in picture n. 3. The structure determines the shape and the height of your hairdo. Then you have to divide the front middle part into an upper and a lower part and backcomb them. Finally roll them up to obtain a loose puff and fix.

Picture n. 3. Now divide the hair on both sides and obtain three smaller parts, backcomb and roll them up as described in picture n. 2. After that arrange the puffs by following your taste. Now you have to create two bigger puffs. Insert little combs against them for having an higher hairdo. take a lock from the nape, and warm it: after cooling you will have a big curl.

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Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:30 pm

Rose Bertin

Thanks so much!

Vitoria, you have no idea how helpful you have been. I have been trying to figue this out for months now! Thanks again. I will be sure to post a picture of the finished product=)

Picture 4. Arrange both sides in tha same way. It is besser to create puffs that are slightly different. The hair on the nape are arranged into the socalled Catogan's or Antoinette's bow. Roll a puff starting from the remaining locks on the middle part of the nape. On both side you have to arrange a bow, while the middle part forms the draping

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Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:42 pm

Vittoria Francesca Savoia

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Re: Thanks so much!

Rose Bertin wrote:

Vitoria, you have no idea how helpful you have been. I have been trying to figue this out for months now! Thanks again. I will be sure to post a picture of the finished product=)

Sorry fr my English, I think it's a terrible translation

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Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:43 pm

Vittoria Francesca Savoia

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Picture 5: Here there is the description of the hairdo's decoration. You have to powder hair again and then put on decorations (such as pearls, little vessels etc).

I hope to see very soon the final result

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Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:46 pm

Adrienne

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Vittoria I had just started a translation myself and I couldn't have done any better! Thank you!

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Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:00 am

La Dauphine

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help

Does anyone know what was used for powder in the 18th century? Also a modern substitute? And what was the name of the hairstyle with the ship on top?

Thank you very much.

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Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:50 am

Louis-Charles

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Quote:

what was the name of the hairstyle with the ship on top?

I believe it was called "Pouf". The woman had big hairstyle with different things (ship, feathers, birds...).
The "Poufs" allowed her to affirm their personality

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