Looks like Blizzard is adding a bunch of useless minor cosmetic glyphs next patch. Real fair to the subscribers compared to helms on the Blizzard store right? How do you guys feel about this? It's definitely the worse of the two, I'd rather have the helms obtainable in-game and these dumb glyphs on the store. Which took longer to make? The glyphs or the helms?

Obviously our subscription is paying for the next raid and virtual realms, but that's beside the point here. The point is we subscribers are getting the lesser of two cosmetic projects. You know and I know Blizzard will bring this point up to defend themselves for example: Bli$$ard - "well to be fair we gave the players cosmetic glyphs as a way to make up for the helms on the blizzard store, so there will be no more debating this." You know they'll say some crap like that when it gets brought up on the official forums next patch. Do the glyphs reeeeeeealy make up for the helms to you?

Glyphs and helms don't have anything to do with one another. In any case, just don't buy it and you won't get cheated. If you do buy something that you enjoy having that's not being cheated either. Basically, you're entirely confused on what 'cheated' means.

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Every time a post contains the word "Bli$$ard" I am so happy about how original people are.

Thanks for allowing me to decide for myself if I as a subscriber feel cheated cosmetically. I am also great that we have another cash shop thread. I think I would be really proud of you guys making these posts if you included with your post the letter that you send to Blizzard how enraged you are about their greedy practice when you cancelled your sub.

Only way to get your message across.

Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

... there are lots of different types of players, with different amounts of time to play, and different tastes for the content and difficulty and time commitment they want to give to any of those pieces of content. The person that plays for an hour or so a few times a week is playing the same game as the person that plays five hours every night.....

Actually it was mentioned recently Blizzard is aware of their community discussions, including MMO Champ forums. So these threads can make a difference in the sense that they bring attention to the fact that some people aren't okay with them charging money for content on a subscription based game.

Actually it was mentioned recently Blizzard is aware of their community discussions, including MMO Champ forums. So these threads can make a difference in the sense that they bring attention to the fact that some people aren't okay with them charging money for content on a subscription based game.

Yes, of course they are aware. I am not exactly sure what "content" is charged for? Is a helm "content" And how is that different from a pet or mount that is on sale for ages? How is me spending 70 Euros on a CE for extra goodies (including digital pets that you don't get to have if you only spend 40 Euros) different?

How would they interpret it then if 1 million people buy the helmet and 100 actually quit over it? I mean..the helmets are in the store. Blizzard is right now collecting data on this.

If Blizzard does indeed add things like glyphs and more cosmetic items...would these threads stop and people who threaten to quit about it acknowledge that obviously the discussion on forums vs action of players have spoken for the shop?

Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

... there are lots of different types of players, with different amounts of time to play, and different tastes for the content and difficulty and time commitment they want to give to any of those pieces of content. The person that plays for an hour or so a few times a week is playing the same game as the person that plays five hours every night.....

Not sure how I feel about paying them monthly only to have them spend time/effort creating things, in a company we help pay for, that we once again have to buy for even more money rather than it being an update to the game. Could say the same about expansions but I think I would've drawn the line before a store on top of a subscription game.

Originally Posted by Venyria

I wouldn't mind the cosmetic items being in the shop at all if they were at least obtainable IN-GAME somehow, even if it took some ungodly amount of time.

But of course the apologists skip right over these posts.

Subscription + cash shop = getting fleeced.

Some people are okay with getting taken advantage of. Some people even like it. Keep going through life with that mentality and see where you end up.

Subscription + not paying for anything in cash shop = not getting fleeced.

Not that hard to not pay for all of that vanity stuff. Can't get fleeced if you don't pay for it. Actually, if you want the item and pay for it and like what you got then you are not getting fleeced at all, because you got exactly what you wanted.

The only real problem with the helms is that they are $10 more expensive than they should be.