Ignore constitution debate -Sata

President Michael Sata with Vice President Guy Scott ( left), newlyappointed Ambassador Designate to Egypt Ali Simwinga, ten-year-oldBlessings Mumba, the grandson of newly appointed Commissioner ofPolice at Sate House Godwin Phiri (not in picture), Justice MinisterWynter Kabimba and newly appointed public policy specialists PrideKabuswe and Robert Kasezya (right) at State House today

PRESIDENT Michael Sata has said Zambia already has a Constitution in place and that public officers should not be part of the debate about a new Constitution since they swore to uphold the current document.

“Don’t talk about the Constitution,ignore those who are talking about the Constitution every day. We already
have a Constitution in place which you swore to uphold,” the President said.

The President was speaking at State House this morning during the swearing ceremony of former Kitwe Town Clerk Ali Simwinga as Zambia’s Ambassador to Egypt, Godwin Phiri as Commissioner of Police at State House and Pride Kabuswe and Robert Kasezya as public policy specialists, policy analysis and coordination division at Cabinet Office.

The President insisted that there is no Constitutional crisis in Zambia.He said Zambia already had a Constitution in place.

“If there was no Constitution, we would not be here. We are running three arms of Government under the same Constitution some people want to keep talking about,” he said.

Meanwhile the Law Association of Zambia has demanded the release of the draft constitution by whoever is holding on to the document.

LAZ president James Banda whose association is one of the conveners of the Oasis Forum told Qfm in an interview that they have been able to confirm that the technical committee has finished its work hence government should release the document.

Mr. Banda said that it will be irresponsible for the constitution making process to fail at this stage considering the time and resources invested in the process.

He says responsible people should behave in a responsible manner, stating whoever is holding on to the document should release it instead of having scenarios where the document has to be leaked through the media.

Mr. Banda added that government should release the draft constitution and state clearly what the next step is in the constitution making process.

He stated that the next stage of the constitution making process should not be a mystery as government had promised to inform the Zambian people of next step once the technical committed had completed its work.

The LAZ president added that as the draft constitution is being released, the referendum commission should be put in place stating that the Electoral Commission of Zambia can be converted into referendum commission so that they start preparing for the referendum.

Mr. Banda is optimistic that the country will have a new constitution as long as Zambians do not relent in demanding for their constitution.

I have tried to ignore @Mushota for months, but cant help first correct her of “hoarse” but more so on the fact that Mr Sata may be president of Zambia but surely not the most important person in Zambia. Such notions are what transform individuals into tinpot dictators.

Jo your tribalism will consume you. Sata can never turn this Country into one party state because its not his personal to hold and we shall never allow that. He can only turn you and his wife into one party not Zambia my dear. Zambia is ours all equally. Period.

You see Zambians, it was really a big mistake to to put in power this lunatic and id1otic old serpent. If there are two things mad sata thrives in, its lies and confusion. Cursed is the day sata was made president.
The [email protected] promised a new constitution in 90 days now he is changing. I am telling you old man dont play with people’s emotions. Sata your end will be disastrous. African presidents dont learn from others’ mistakes. May you see your end quickly and soon, sata.

This is the more reason why this f00l cant even hold a press conference because he is avoiding being questioned on many of the issues affecting the country.
Kubosafye during swearing in ceremonies. May you go to hell quickly we chi mwansa kabinga iwe. Pa menso kwati chakutini shako abaiche!

Whether with or without the new constitution PF will be beaten hands down come 2016. In fact without the 50+1 clause it will be easier to boot PF out without them claiming for a need for a rerun.

RB ignored the clause because he thought the current constitution would enable him stay in power, alas he shed tears after losing. If and when people are tired of being lied to no amount of rigging will stop them changing the government. Examples are too many to mention but a good one is Ivory coast. Where is kk today after standing against a frog for 27years?

Sata’s refusal to release the constitution and his arrogance on many issues affecting the poor majority in the country today is providing powerful ammunition for the opposition to use to boot him out of power come 2016.

Where are those people who incessantly insult HH as being bitter? Luapula Premier ulikwisa and your tandem of insulters? Who is bitter? Zambians (perhaps including HH are bitter that Sata lied over
1. the Constitution
2. lower taxes ; Zambians now pay the highest individual taxes in the history of Northern Rhodesia and Zambia
3. FOI bill
4. Presidential malingering abroad ; Sata beats Alabee hands down
5. more jobs ; our nurse brothers and sisters were Sata sacked. Now mass deaths at UTH. Visit E annd G wards at UTH and prove for yourself.
6. more money ; a utopia as the exchange rate is the worst in our living memory
etc
7. stable financial system has turned into massive borrowings.

NEVER TRUST A POLITICIAN THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. PF MADE NOISE ABOUT 50%+1 WHEN THEY WERE IN OPPOSITION TO DAY IT’S THE OPPOSITE. MMD WAS AGAINST 50%+1 TODAY THEY WANT IT, THEY ARE EVEN LOSING SLEEP OVER IT. HH CALLED RB CORRUPT WHEN HE (HH) WAS IN AN ALLIANCE WITH SATA TODAY HH IS PROTECTING RB AND HE IS NOW SUPPORTING GBM. NEVERS PROMISED TO RUN MMD TO SUCCESS TODAY HE IS SELLING MMD TO UPND.

I also wonder what constitution peopleare talking ABOUT when Zambia has recorded NO WAR with the current constitution, lets talk about soccer standards that have gone down and the need to recall BONITA

Don’t expect to be answered my friend, that is Ukwa’s new stance nowadays “ignore the questions” after all he is already president. 2 plus years no press conference and you stupidd Zambians have stopped demanding for one.

We all know that we have a constitution in place (no need to remind us). We also know that our constitution in its current form has a lot of defects for a modern democracy which we hope for. That is the reason we all agreed (including the PF) to make our own constitution instead of sticking to one which was handed over to us by the colonial masters of yester years….Now what I can say about all these happenings is that a good man would want his latter years to be better than his beginning. Alas, it shall not be so with PF.

Zambia has really gone to the dogs! Anyway I’m not shocked because I have never trusted this man in my life. He has no principles, no shame at all. He is ever changing his grounds like a monkey in a maize field….hahahaha we experimented with presidency…unbelievable. “The Sh.i.t has hit the fun and everybody is going to be messed up in this room called Zambia.”

Right now he feels untouchable, Zambia is literally in the palm of hands. He can squeeze it, twist it, turn it, put it in his mouth then spit it again at will. Yes, this is what Michael Sata is exactly doing. He can spend tax payers’ money as he pleases believing no-one will dare question him. In his delusional world, he owes nobody an explanation for anything. How wrong could you be Mr President? Remember Kaunda felt the same, but his time came and tables overturned at blink an eye, from Livingstone through Copperbelt to Nakonde. He had no ideak where to start from but dissolve cabinet and call elections. Our patience is stretched to full tether, we’re choking with your insensitive dictatorial ways. Releasing the draft constitution is not optionaland as you will soon find out.

Another scheme to waste public resources by giving a chief from Muchinga free money under the pretext that he is an expert in constitution formation process. That is all that constitution review committee was all about sharing the little resources through seating and sleeping in those meetings.

In african democracy the president has a lot of powers, s/he can decide on anything on behalf of people. Juses wldnt hv bn nailed on the cross if it was in africa cause the african king/president wld hav decided on behalf of the pipo.

But Mr President if we have a good constitution in place why then did you assemble the so called constitution experts to review the current one?why spend so much money and people’s time making submissions?Am very disappointed with this development.

are these comments coming from the president who appointed a technical comitee to draft the new constitution? surely a medical team should also be constituted immediately. the president surely has lost touch with reality. the constitution is in the jaws of a big snake. zambians should rastle it from this snake as it is their document

Sata is a big liar. When he opened the parliament he said the government will deliver the people driven constitution . Nobody forced him to say that . What a president who has no shame lying blatantly .

There you have it, in black and white!!! So what is the next step for all zambians to take having invested heavily in the constitution review process?? Its now crystal-clear: no new constitution coming in the foreseeable future!!!

BUSHE KWENA MWEBANTU.U MEAN WE CANT GO ON COUNTRY WIDE DEMONSTRATION? AM NOW FAILING TO UNDERSTAND MY PRESIDENT.HE CLEARLY STATED THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE CONSTITUTION IN 90 DAYS AND IT HAS ALREADY EXPIRED.WE BECAME PATIENT LOOKING AT THE SAID PERIOD IT WAS TOO SHORT FOR THE EXERCISE.TWO YEARS DOWN THE LINE NOTHING GOOD IS COMING OUT.FROM THE LOOK OF THINGS WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE IT ANYTIME SOON GOING BY WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN SAYING OVER THE SAME.
I URGE ALL OF YOU PEOPLE LETS COME TOGETHER AND GO FOR COUNTRYWIDE DEMONSTRATION SO THAT THEY DON’T TAKE US FOR GRANTED.

A COUNTRY WIDE DEMONSTRATION CAN NOT WORK BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF ZAMBIANS LIVE IN RURAL AREAS AND THEY ARE MORE CONCERNED WITH DEVELOPMENTAL ISSUES THAN THE CONSTITUTION. IT’S YOU BLOGGERS AND A FEW ELITES IN TOWNS THAT WORRY ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION. EVEN I TOWN THE ISSUE OF THE CONSTITUTION IS NOT POPULAR TO PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT THE GOVT. DO YOU EXPECT STREET VENDORS TO RISE AGAINST THE GOVT ON THIS MATTER. IT’S ONLY THE OPPOSITION LEADERS AND A FEW CHURCH LEADERS THAT ARE PRESSING FOR IT FOR REASONS THAT EVERYONE KNOWS. THERE’S NO LAW THAT SAYS THOU SHALL HAVE A NEW CONSTITUTION.

Even Sata himself needs this constitution….unless he has no children or relatives that will ruled by other people when his long gone. His just being short sighted and that disqualifies him to be a leader. He will regret the most if God will bless him with a few more yes. HIS THE WASTE LIAR I HAVE EVER SEEN ON EARTH AND IN DREAMS!!!!!

cant believe this is the same man who promise a new constitution in 90 days or at the very least in a years time.little wonder politicians and diapers are not different at all,they ought to be changed often and for the same reason.its time for change.

Who can support this president,on the constitution? This is lunacy at its best. I can’t assure you Mr president,you will soon become a product of your own moment. Remember Gobarchev(sp),of the USSR,you will not win in 2016 even under the current constitution,because you have lied to God’s people even under oath. The people will win,Mr president

You people you were told about the characteristic of Michael Sata but you failed to listen. Now these are the consequences of your failure to listen to advice. You will live to regret. The same mouth today gives this promise, tomorrow it contradicts itself, can you honestly trust such a person ? well, it’ s up to you to judge.

Nay my brother/sister
It is NOT all of us who voted for the scum bugs. Some of knew better never to trust the serpentine class.
It is the majority suffering from collective amnesia that made us face the mess we are in….UNBELIEVABLE!

I now believe Sata suffers from malignant amnesia. All along he has been promising to deliver a people driven constitution and now all he has is to tell the Zambian people to ignore constitution debate. I challenge Sata and his minions to come out clear and tell us whether the constitution will be delivered or not. I demand to know before I take action. Nafulwa nomba….

We want to demonstrate,but again the police will not give you permit to assemble because they know if they do that would mark the end of this regime.so what do we do? We defy the police and we stone the government.This may no be a good idea,but it works where there is no democracy

Sata was elected mainly because he said he would give us a people driven constitution which will ensure that leaders in office are not there for play like the current situation. How dare he thinks come 2016 this very issue of the constitution will not be key in the election. He will regret like RB. History repeats itself. CSOs, churches and opposition parties should go flat out educating the masses especially in the rural areas and compounds about the importance of a people driven constitution. They should explain clearly how it is linked to national development, corruption, abuse of power, non delivery of farming inputs, arrogance of Govt leaders, absense of MPs especially in govt from their constituencies until election time, nepotism, tribalism, lies (donchi kubeba), selctive justic etc

And just to add on; why did the Pf think it wise to constitute a team of consultants and pay them a lot of money just to dump the draft. PF supporters and leaders it wasnt your personal monies that you have since wasted for goodness’s sakes. you could have even taken that money to a school which has no desks if you knew that you would not honour the works done by the Constitution team.

Is this all the president can do and say? On the other hand why waste time on Simwinga to send him to Egypt most likely to return in a coffin. Help him by giving him a local consultant job at State House so that his relatives can monitor his condition. This constitution Mr President is a time bomb; why can’t you for change act like late LPM- be on the side of the people. Your protection is only granteed by the people of Zambia and not these Kabimba/Mmembe boys.
Don’t say we did not warn you!!!

WHAT NONSENCE IS THIS. EVEN PEOPLE WORKING WITH SATA SHOULD BE ANSHAMED OF THEMSELVES FOR WORKING WITH SUCH A FOOL WHO THINK HE CAN DO ANYTHING HE LIKES. OLD AGE HAS A PROBLEM WITH HIGH OFFICE WORK LET US GO FOR MATURE AGED LEADERS WITH STRENGH FOR THE OFFICE NOT THIS FOSSIL WE HAVE IN STATE HOUSE. HE IS DISGUSTING TO SAY THE LEAST.

How can the people working with Sata be ashamed of themselves? Have you ever heard of POLITICS OF THE TUMMY or SEBANA WIKUTE? Obviously Sata does not like what is in the draft constitution because it would mean him or Kabimba not winning the next elections.

His campaign promise was that the current constitution was not good, hence there was an urgence to have a new one and to that fact he promised to give us the document in 90 days. Why then did he gather all those millions and man power if the following day he was going to tell us to shut up?

I just don’t understand why the PF Govt is so ill bent on creating unnecessary problems for itself over this straight forward issue of a NEW CONSTITUTION. Have these people, all of a sudden, STOPPED REASONING properly?

What stuff is in the Draft Constitution that scares these people to death? The 50+1 majority threshold to be elected Republican President? Wow, one would think a seemingly mature Govt and political Party like PF would relish such progressive Constitutional underpinnings to show what they are really made of as political heavyweights.

Unfortunately, it appears Sata never even learned any lessons from the experience of the Chiluba THIRD TERM saga he personally pushed so vigorously.

It is just incredible how African leaders NEVER seem to learn at all!!

Sata is indeed a malingerer and in Psychiatry Weekly states ‘Malingering is defined in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition (DSM-IV),1 as the intentional production of false or grossly exaggerated physical or psychologic symptoms. It is motivated by external incentives, such as avoiding work or obtaining financial compensation. It is not a medical disorder, but rather a V-code. A person with malingered symptoms is presenting fraudulent symptoms and is not a genuine patient seeking help.

Everyone engages in what might be called “impression management,” where people put their best foot forward. For example, a person may present himself in a better light at a job interview than on a regular day at a job he has had for 10 years…TBContd!

Cont’d from #33
‘Behavior on a first date is different than on a 20th date. A person under evaluation for worker’s compensation, where the results of the examination will affect how much money that person gets, will be tempted to have some mild exaggeration of what is self-serving. However, genuine malingering is a gross exaggeration with a conscious effort to deceive. Clinically significant malingering is carried out by people who obviously have some material gain. Malingering primarily occurs in medical and legal contexts, such as avoiding criminal prosecution, disability evaluation, avoiding the military, or seeking drugs.’

Ababemba insoni. Umubemba this time around feel ashamed. Bembas have been used. Just the way we use condoms. We crave for a condom before sex but after use we damp it. Bembas are condoms who cannot reason properly. They were used by one who is not a bemba but speak similar tribe like them. This time around they are crying. Wake up in 2016 you bembas and remove Sata from power. The man lied to the people of Zambia and today he has even the guts to shift goal posts. MMD was voted out because it failed to give people the constitution that people wanted. Today PF is doing the same. It is true power corrupt morals. I cant believe this state of affairs. Anyway I did not vote for him (Sata) and I don’t feel offended. Akalanda kuliabo who gave him a vote. Don’t Kubeba at work. Bembas you’re…

Sata won the 2011 elections because people wanted change and would have voted for anybody. However on this occasion Sata lied better than HH. The same thing happened in 1991 when people got rid of KK – that time you did not blame Bembas for getting rid of KK because there was no alternative political party. If you follow Zambian politics you will see that opposition leaders and Sata’s critics are mostly Bemba. So stop insulting and trying to divide us because it is cheap and shallow and it may not give you your desired results. If I were you I would concentrate on marketing my party/leader rather than driving away would be supporters by insulting them.

I just read two lines and couldn’t gather myself to finish the third one because I felt like puking. I mean this old leathery guy has the guts to **** the justice system in the country like that at the mercy of peace loving Zambians! God forbid.

@ 37 Ngalande Lukuku and the like – Sata won the 2011 elections because people wanted change and would have voted for anybody. However on this occasion Sata lied better than HH. The same thing happened in 1991 when people got rid of KK – that time you did not blame Bembas for getting rid of KK because there was no alternative political party. If you follow Zambian politics you will see that opposition leaders and Sata’s critics are mostly Bemba. So stop insulting and trying to divide us because it is cheap and shallow and it may not give you your desired results. If I were you I would concentrate on marketing my party/leader rather than driving away would be supporters by insulting them.

Further to my comment @ 42, below is what someone has written in ZWD and here I rest my case:
“Guys, it should not seem as if non Bembas hate SATA and the PF when you are writing. Let’s be balanced here. Even some Bembas like myself are not happy about SATA and wants him out immediately in preference for HH!!
If Bembas pick this up that non Bembas are after them, they may give SATA another sympathy vote. So Guys lets watch out. It’s not Bembas Vs. None Bembas here!! It’s SATA Vs. HH
Thanks”.

Serves you right for voting this senile serpent into office. Did you really think he would consider you and yours when he got into Power? You thought RB was bad, just wait and see. All along he will just “ignore” you

So this president is determined to ignore the voice of the people on any issue that affect them. His humiliation is just around the corner, never mind 2016. This is the same man who made so much noise when he was in the opposition and now he thinks he can forever rule by decree.

Just one day old in state house we put it to some Zambians that Mr Sata will be a “Mufungatilwa Chumbu Mushololwa”. These people cried we were bitter, tribal and jealous and vowed not to speak to us. We are now being vindicated by Mr sata himself that there will be no debate over the constitution. Well come to Zambia.

What he is saying is that he was wasting money appointing people whom he paid huge sums of tax payers money to rewrite the constitution. He is also confirming that he is a liar because he has decide to break one of his election promises. This akantemba government is clueless that is why they go wondering across the globe for no apparent reasons instead of improving the standards of living in Zambia. How many people schools hospitals etc could have benefited from their tourism expenses.

Zambians are docile and cowards. They can be trampled on and on and on and U.R.I. N.A.T.E.D on by ruling governments. With such type of USEFUL I.M.B.E.C.I.L.E.S of citizens, PF could be voted again in 2016 to continue supplying U.R.I.N.E. to them. After all there is an ever flow of U.R.I.N.E from the bag at plot 1. hahahahaha ni CHUMBU MUSHOLOLWA kwena!!!!!!!

We stood a chance to have atleast a good constitution during MMD,can someone remeind this man about his promises to us.it is crystal clear now,Sata can not be trusted…anyway,CHANDA CHIMBA III warned us,he cautioned us…this is from Bwijimfumu to Nkwazi house. Can ardent PF maggots comment sensitively.

It’s clear Sata loves Scott and Kabimba BUT why can’t these two guys help Sata rule the country properly? Or do they have a death wish for Sata? Who can’t see that this country is not being ruled properly ? Guy and Kabimba have the goodwill of the president, let them help him if they are Men enough. I couldn’t help to put in this “Man enough thing”. Mr. Scott and Mr. Kabimba Zambia is bleeding.

This stupid attack on bemba’s is exactly the reason why we will keep ruling because we never say Bad things about other tribes, these haters are the ones that cause trouble through careless talk. Levy was a lawyer but he still failed to give us a new one that’s politicians for you, even the next person in line making noise will not because it will strip him of his powers. Its a game and everyone plays the smart ones win. And if something is not broken don’t mend it. Its not like there is anything out there worth voting for any ways and looking at the options I will stick to the current we have been fooled enough it will take a miracle for me to lisen to another guy trying to fool me on the podium. Good luck to all of you who are still hustling to go to plot one Zambians are getting…

Is this the kind of President you want for your country? A man with no respect for the Law. A contitution is a very important document that must be renewed by every government in power, why ignore it by word of mouth, after a constitution committee has been paid in full! Isn’t this a waste of tax payers money? These are cheap politics, we may have uneducated ministers, but we need an educated President who will be able to understand the importance of his day to day duties! President Sata takes everything for granted. He thinks he can rule by the word of mouth without following the rule of law of the country. The people of Zambia are watching and listening. Even villagers will not be fooled this time. The President is the party and the government, no one can control him. What he says…

Relax people. I am aware the govt said it was studying the draft constitution, wat Mr sata has failed to say is that the whole of govt has failed to comprehend wat is contained in it. Now we all know how the Blackman fears that which he can’t understand. So please bear with this coward.

THE CURRENT CONSTITUTION IS BASICALLY THE ONE LEFT BY KK EXCEPT FOR SOME SMALL TINKERING WHICH INTRODUCED MULTI PARTYISM OTHERWISE IT IS A DICTATOR’S HEAVEN-SENT DOCUMENT.
SO, DON’T EXPECT THE CURRENT REGIME TO ACCEPT THE NEW DRAFT CONSTITUTION.
ONE MORE BROKEN PROMISE WILL NOT LET THEM LOSE ANY SLEEP.

“Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man’s true character, give him power” …..Abraham Lincoln

So, this is the true character of Michael Chilufya Sata:- Conman, Liar, No plan for Zambia, Cannot be corrected. Cannot be trusted. Takes an Oath with Bible in hand but does the exact opposite. Has absolutely no respect for the constitution, old or new. Has no credible friends nationally, Regionally or internationally. Has no definable foreign policy. etc…