Remember in Good Will Hunting when Matt Damon tells the joke about the stewardess forgetting the coffee and Robin Williams calls him out for never having been on a plane? This guy wrote a whole article based on that sort of outrage.

It kind of seems like NGT has his own religion. This is the third time in one week that I've seen proof that he's full of shiat yet he's still the savior to so many people. The first two were the standard tripe that 8th grade science teachers make up. This one is a uniformed political tirade. Why do I not remember my college physics professors making these mistakes? Oh I guess they were just boring and didn't have political agendas.

Bartman66:nmrsnr: MrBallou: Who cares whether NDT got the details right or not?

I kind of do. It's lazy attribution to say "newspaper headline" and a scientist should cite his sources better.

Does that have any bearing on the message? Not one whit.

I don't think that this that big of deal but I do agree that as a scientist you would think that he would have done better at getting the facts / details correct?

I didn't go too in depth with the article, but it looked like the author was quoting mining Tyson while he was giving an informal talk. It's pretty easy to get things a little wrong in that situation. In an article or a formal talk, yeah it's definitely valid criticism.

kbronsito:ginandbacon: You know, not for nothing but Bush was very firm in his message that Muslims shouldn't be blamed for 9/11. It was one of the few things I actually admired about him.

And then he called the war on terror a crusade and farked up all that hard work trying to convince the Mid East that it wasn't all a Muslim vs Christians thing. Even when he did something right, he did something stupid and farked it all up.

I cringed when I heard him say crusade. He was blowing an Islamic dog whistle and seemed clueless about it.

Schroedinger's Glory Hole:Remember in Good Will Hunting when Matt Damon tells the joke about the stewardess forgetting the coffee and Robin Williams calls him out for never having been on a plane? This guy wrote a whole article based on that sort of outrage.

//I'm agnostic and one of the reasons I don't like him is how he used cosmos for her personal platform. Sagan's version is one of my favorite series of all time. But yeah I hate science and those people that don't believe in my god. Keep sucking thTyson dick

dittybopper:Schroedinger's Glory Hole: Remember in Good Will Hunting when Matt Damon tells the joke about the stewardess forgetting the coffee and Robin Williams calls him out for never having been on a plane? This guy wrote a whole article based on that sort of outrage.

Karac:Karac: Forbidden Doughnut: Not getting some bible reference right ( Isiah vs Genesis, or something) is excessively nitpicky. (It would be like me getting upset at a Fundamentalist Christian for not having read anything by Voltaire ,Thomas Paine* , or the AD&D "Planescape" campaign sourcebooks )

/ esp. Paine's "The Age of Reason"; lots of things in that one to p*ss off fundamentalists of ALL stripes....

Now hold on a minute - everyone should read about Planescape. It is quite possibly the best setting for any game I've ever encountered.

And just like that I'm looking for a Planescape wikia and holy shiat there's a kickstarter for a sort-of sequel to Torment.

I own almost every planescape book (including all the box sets); include the three fiction novels.

Still missing several of the 20 page adventure books and two campaign books.

It's a fantastic campaign setting. Shame they ditched it going into 3e and beyond.

bestie1:It kind of seems like NGT has his own religion. This is the third time in one week that I've seen proof that he's full of shiat yet he's still the savior to so many people. The first two were the standard tripe that 8th grade science teachers make up. This one is a uniformed political tirade. Why do I not remember my college physics professors making these mistakes? Oh I guess they were just boring and didn't have political agendas.

I don't think that anyone who likes NDGT thinks of him as a Jesus figure, but thanks for playing the christian conservative projection game.

bestie1:It kind of seems like NGT has his own religion. This is the third time in one week that I've seen proof that he's full of shiat yet he's still the savior to so many people. The first two were the standard tripe that 8th grade science teachers make up. This one is a uniformed political tirade. Why do I not remember my college physics professors making these mistakes? Oh I guess they were just boring and didn't have political agendas.

He is a semi decent public speaker, who is atheist, and has a lot of visibility. The hardons a bunch of people have for him 'cause omg he is smart like me, he knows so much better than everyone else and he agrees with me so I'm smart too!' Is absurd

Karac:Forbidden Doughnut: Not getting some bible reference right ( Isiah vs Genesis, or something) is excessively nitpicky. (It would be like me getting upset at a Fundamentalist Christian for not having read anything by Voltaire ,Thomas Paine* , or the AD&D "Planescape" campaign sourcebooks )

/ esp. Paine's "The Age of Reason"; lots of things in that one to p*ss off fundamentalists of ALL stripes....

Now hold on a minute - everyone should read about Planescape. It is quite possibly the best setting for any game I've ever encountered.

LucklessWonder:Karac: Forbidden Doughnut: Not getting some bible reference right ( Isiah vs Genesis, or something) is excessively nitpicky. (It would be like me getting upset at a Fundamentalist Christian for not having read anything by Voltaire ,Thomas Paine* , or the AD&D "Planescape" campaign sourcebooks )

/ esp. Paine's "The Age of Reason"; lots of things in that one to p*ss off fundamentalists of ALL stripes....

Now hold on a minute - everyone should read about Planescape. It is quite possibly the best setting for any game I've ever encountered.

I prefer Birthright and (whispers) DragonLance

I loved reading the birthright campaign setting; didn't enjoy playing it that much. Dragonlance always looked like it would be fun, but I never read any of the stuff because all my gamer friend growing up hated it. The only thing I ever read on it was when a planescape adventure delved into the dragonlance world.

You know, I always thought that Conservatives just had a filter when perceiving realty (called the Bible), but now I think they are seeing reality in a totally different way than the rest of us. Up is down, black is white, and toothpaste makes a swell cocktail mixture.. they have to be brain damaged.

NickelP:bestie1: It kind of seems like NGT has his own religion. This is the third time in one week that I've seen proof that he's full of shiat yet he's still the savior to so many people. The first two were the standard tripe that 8th grade science teachers make up. This one is a uniformed political tirade. Why do I not remember my college physics professors making these mistakes? Oh I guess they were just boring and didn't have political agendas.

He is a semi decent public speaker, who is atheist, and has a lot of visibility. The hardons a bunch of people have for him 'cause omg he is smart like me, he knows so much better than everyone else and he agrees with me so I'm smart too!' Is absurd

Yeah I don't get it either. I mean, why can't people just be content listening to the science experts we already have on TV, such as:

nmrsnr:I kind of do. It's lazy attribution to say "newspaper headline" and a scientist should cite his sources better.

You do realize that NDT doesn't purport to be a historian or a literary expert, right? He's a scientist, his ad-hoc conversational stories he tells to make rhetorical points aren't things he represents as being 100% rigorous in every detail without fail.

Do you hold everyone in the entire universe responsible for memorizing every quote word-perfect with no paraphrasing? Because NDT ain't any kind of expert in that regard, he's on the same standards as the average guy.

//I'm agnostic and one of the reasons I don't like him is how he used cosmos for her personal platform. Sagan's version is one of my favorite series of all time. But yeah I hate science and those people that don't believe in my god. Keep sucking thTyson dick

It was fantastic that he used Cosmos has his personal platform. Someone has to. Cosmos did a great job of showing what we know and how we came to know it. Part of that is the people who made discoveries, but the other part is the intellectual climate that allowed people to make those discoveries. It would be irresponsible of him as a science advocate to not take the opportunity to warn the general public about how that intellectual climate is endangered and how we could lose opportunities to make similar discoveries in the future.

Chummer45:NickelP: bestie1: It kind of seems like NGT has his own religion. This is the third time in one week that I've seen proof that he's full of shiat yet he's still the savior to so many people. The first two were the standard tripe that 8th grade science teachers make up. This one is a uniformed political tirade. Why do I not remember my college physics professors making these mistakes? Oh I guess they were just boring and didn't have political agendas.

He is a semi decent public speaker, who is atheist, and has a lot of visibility. The hardons a bunch of people have for him 'cause omg he is smart like me, he knows so much better than everyone else and he agrees with me so I'm smart too!' Is absurd

Yeah I don't get it either. I mean, why can't people just be content listening to the science experts we already have on TV, such as:

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Try watching pbs, nat geographic, (and yes even history and discovery). If you are watching fox news for science reasons maybe the problem is you and not them. Netflix also has tons of great science shows that talk about stars and stuff without devoting half the time to biatching about the speakers personal platform.