Thing that got me was how highly touted the Browns were coming into 95.

Oh sure, the AFC was a crapshoot in the 90s before Denver but still....two major magazines picked Cleveland to make Super Bowl? A bit much no?

I would have thought Steelers & Chiefs and even Charges would be rated above the Browns.

Yeah the staff was pretty good but remember there's a lot of people in the NFL. Many years down the road who the hell knows what happens to the entire Cardinals staff right?_________________Legends Never Die. They Breathe Through The New Generation.100 Greatest Quarterbacks of All Time

Modell made the official announcement November 5th when the team was 4-4.

Could they have made Super Bowl? Sure, but they wouldn't have won it by a longshot.

Packers or Boys would have eaten them alive.

yes the official announcement was made in November but the word of them moving made their way around the locker room before the official announcements. did you think the idea of moving, getting the agreement to move, and etc all came in one day?Nope they had to work on it, get it worked out with Baltimore and all that other stuff involved with it. the message was written on the wall way before the official announcement. Hearing they were being moved ruined their mindset_________________

Majority of those guys are overrated. A couple are even out of the league coaching wise.

What?

Belicheck - top coach in all of football
Dimitroff - Don't know who that is.
Pioli - not a coach any longer, not valid
Lombardi - Isn't that the guy the trophy is named after? If so, top 3coach of all time.
Ferentz - Overrated
Saban - top 3 coach in all of football
Schwartz - Overrated
Newsome - idk
Mangini - sucks, but everyone knows it, so not overrated

Oh my...............Yeah, Vince game back in 1995 to coach the Brownies..

And you don't know who Ozzie Newsome or Thomas Dimitroff is? Oh ok. Do you not pay attention to the whole NFL or do you just know your own team?

He doesn't have a team

He only knows his own team * he doesn't have a team = he doesn't know anything

I'm assuming not. What football fan that takes time to nerd it up like us on the internets doesn't know who build the current Ravens/Falcons?_________________

Modell made the official announcement November 5th when the team was 4-4.

Could they have made Super Bowl? Sure, but they wouldn't have won it by a longshot.

Packers or Boys would have eaten them alive.

yes the official announcement was made in November but the word of them moving made their way around the locker room before the official announcements. did you think the idea of moving, getting the agreement to move, and etc all came in one day?Nope they had to work on it, get it worked out with Baltimore and all that other stuff involved with it. the message was written on the wall way before the official announcement. Hearing they were being moved ruined their mindset

True but doesn't that cast a shadow over the team's mental toughness to go all the way?

Yes it was a big distraction but look at the Phoenix Coyotes this past season or the Nordiques in 1995.

Okay, so not many here are hockey fans, fine, I'll give you football examples....oh wait.....there aren't many examples of good teams being moved.

And I guess that's the really sad part about the Cleveland relocation. They were a good team that got moved, almost unheard of in football where, no offense but franchises like the Saints and my Cardinals remained despite years of crud._________________Legends Never Die. They Breathe Through The New Generation.100 Greatest Quarterbacks of All Time