I'm receiving conflicting information on CDI forum requirements for promotions and wanted to see if I'm off-base here.

Per each individual phase section of the 52-16, the statement is 1 forum per achievement, with the exception of the Curry (Wingman Course) and each following milestone (either no requirement or the essay exam for Spaatz).

This is what I know to be true and correct. One forum per achievement. However, I'm being told by certain CDI sources that the requirements include various things including "attendance at last 2 of 3 forums conducted" and mentions of guidance within various chaplain-related AFMANs, yet, none of this has ever been "a thing" since I joined as a wee cadet in 2004.

BTW: you can't use DDR as a sub for CD nor can you use Medal of Honor as the lesson, although it can be used as supporting material or for a non-CD talk.

There is a change coming in that the lessons will be similar to the USAFA program but, until then, the CD forum must be presented by the CDI, or the Chaplain or, in the absence of either, the CC. The lesson must be taken from the CAPP 265-2, dated November 2014.

This is what I know to be true and correct. One forum per achievement. However, I'm being told by certain CDI sources that the requirements include various things including "attendance at last 2 of 3 forums conducted" and mentions of guidance within various chaplain-related AFMANs, yet, none of this has ever been "a thing" since I joined as a wee cadet in 2004.

From a practical perspective, at one a month (which is more then many units do), how could a cadet attend 2-3 and still promote inn 56 days?

And of course from a CAP perspective, except in cases that explicitly refer to them, AFMANs are anecdotally interesting and also do no apply.

BTW: you can't use DDR as a sub for CD nor can you use Medal of Honor as the lesson, although it can be used as supporting material or for a non-CD talk.

From what I found, 52-16 only says that the material has to come from http://capmembers.com/character. On that site, it has both the flight time, as well as medal of honor and other materials. In the medal of honor section, it specifically states that it is able to be counted as participating in a forum for cadet advancement.

Not saying that flight time shouldn't be used, but that Medal of Honor can be used as a substitute (but probably shouldn't be used every month).

This is what I know to be true and correct. One forum per achievement. However, I'm being told by certain CDI sources that the requirements include various things including "attendance at last 2 of 3 forums conducted" and mentions of guidance within various chaplain-related AFMANs, yet, none of this has ever been "a thing" since I joined as a wee cadet in 2004.

I am curious, how "old" is this CDI Officer? As in, was this person a previous MLO? In the past (e.g., 1998 CAPR 52-16 and the previous CAPM 50-16) had the "Must Participate [sic] in at least half of the moral leadership forums offered since the completion of last achievement". Also the Phase II and Phase III requirement for serving as a recorder once during the phase, and the requirement for Phase IV to serve as a recorder once and a discussion leader twice during Phase IV (ah I still remember the arguments I had with the ultra-religious MLO regarding my topics because me and the topics did not serve god).

Obviously, that does not excuse the person for not being up to date on the regulations. Just a curiosity point.

BTW: you can't use DDR as a sub for CD nor can you use Medal of Honor as the lesson, although it can be used as supporting material or for a non-CD talk.

From what I found, 52-16 only says that the material has to come from http://capmembers.com/character. On that site, it has both the flight time, as well as medal of honor and other materials. In the medal of honor section, it specifically states that it is able to be counted as participating in a forum for cadet advancement.

Not saying that flight time shouldn't be used, but that Medal of Honor can be used as a substitute (but probably shouldn't be used every month).

You're correct but there's a subtlety in there somewhere. I need to check my own notes. More later!

I find the MoH videos put the session more into a "review of the video" and less a discussion. But I've seen the converse where you get some Chaplains/CDIs that do so much talking and never let it flow into a dialogue; it's a one-way lecture.

I find the MoH videos put the session more into a "review of the video" and less a discussion. But I've seen the converse where you get some Chaplains/CDIs that do so much talking and never let it flow into a dialogue; it's a one-way lecture.

Right, and we agree on both points; there was once a young(ish) CDI that did that... ....and then he realized, in about session 4, that is was waaay more fun and of far more value to his cadets to do what was actually required.....

...at which point his OJT supervisor decided there was some hope for him....!

I find the MoH videos put the session more into a "review of the video" and less a discussion. But I've seen the converse where you get some Chaplains/CDIs that do so much talking and never let it flow into a dialogue; it's a one-way lecture.

Right, and we agree on both points; there was once a young(ish) CDI that did that... ....and then he realized, in about session 4, that is was waaay more fun and of far more value to his cadets to do what was actually required.....

...at which point his OJT supervisor decided there was some hope for him....!

I find the MoH videos put the session more into a "review of the video" and less a discussion. But I've seen the converse where you get some Chaplains/CDIs that do so much talking and never let it flow into a dialogue; it's a one-way lecture.

Right, and we agree on both points; there was once a young(ish) CDI that did that... ....and then he realized, in about session 4, that is was waaay more fun and of far more value to his cadets to do what was actually required.....

...at which point his OJT supervisor decided there was some hope for him....!