I really appreciate the feedback. I tried the trial Doba membership a few weeks and was not impressed at all. It seems like many of the sites claiming to dropship and are wholesalers aren't worth a dollar and offer some rediculous products. I'm hoping to find some good stuff from salehoo but so far it's hard to find quality suppliers for some of the consumer products I'm interested in. Thanks again for the feedback. -TG

You're facing two major problems with most of the merchandise you are chasing, consumer electronics.

Drop shipping these products is a no go zone, simply will not find a drop shipper that will give you enough margin to compete on ebay, and I assume that will be your market.

The sad fact is that you would struggle to compete even if you were buying in wholesale volume. The market is completely saturated with these products, and you would be going up against HUGE players. Actual wholesalers themselves that are buying in massive volume, then slashing the margin to just a few percent to sell.

You definitely need to look at refocusing on those types of products I would suggest.

I really do appreciate the feedback. Are there any products that you would suggest for online auctions and maybe an ecommerce store front that would do well? I wanted to focus on consumer electronics because I did some consignment work for people and the items sold very well and right now it looks like those type of products are still doing well. But I do appreciate the honest feedback and are always welcome to any suggestions.

I'm a newbie so take my input with a grain of salt. You can look at wholesalers all day long....their selection and price...and then you go to ebay and see electronics selling lower than the wholesalers are selling them for. How is this?

I have noticed that much of the consumer electronics are not necessarily 'new' on the market stuff....not quite antiquated but not cutting edge to say the least. For instance you can buy brand new motorola razr, 1st, 2nd and 3rd generation on ebay for a good price.....bought one not long ago, myself.

Sure, you have some powersellers getting stuff somewhere at ridiculous prices and by now you already know that most of these sellers aren't making a killing but a few pennies off of every sale if they're getting their stock from wholesalers but I think that a large part of these sellers are obtaining liquidated stock which is everywhere. If you have a small chunk of cash you can get this stuff by the pallet for a lot less than wholesale and yes, I'm talking about electronics as well as everything else.

That's what I'm looking into. Check out liquidators in the suppliers search. That would be my suggestion.

You do make a few good points regarding wholesale and ebay. The biggest factor with some power sellers is yes, they do work on small margin, high turnover, but they are not buying wholesale.

In a lot of cases they are actually the WHOLESALER themselves!

They will sell at their wholesale mark-up to you as a customer offline, but then compete against you through their online account at your purchase price, or even a little lower.

There are other factors, but it's one of the big ones that make wholesale a poor option for sites like ebay. You can't hope to compete against someone who is sourcing the products cheaper than you, just a dead end in most cases!

Good point...I can give you an example of this. Many talk about sourcing from Evertek and reselling on eBay. I was doing this 6 years ago when I had my computer store. Once they found out that I (and others) were reselling on eBay they opened up their own store on eBay and started competing against us. Years ago, there was an unwritten code of ethics that a wholesaler would not do such a thing but now it is common practice. This has happened to me several times. One year I found the source of jewelry that B&F System offered. Contacted him and worked a deal to market his jewelry on eBay through dropshipping. Sold over 3000 pieces profitably until he set up his wife to sell it. My sales dropped because they sold it for $10 less then I was getting it for. Last time I looked they had over 160,000 feedback rating. All I can say is each time this happens I just search for another product and make my money while I can and move on when I can't.

Hi I wrote the wwb review and I stand by it 1000% it is a scam as Fudjj said to me they use the oldest trick in the book they make their service real expensive, which makes it seem better , then they pay their affiliates $150.00 of your money to lure you in.

That is why you hear so many good things about it. If I had a bag of garbage and told someone to sell it for $300.00 and they would get half that bag of garbage becomes a pot of gold.

'World wide brands is the bag of garbage that became the overnight pot of gold'...Me.

Concerning drop ship design and Doba here is what happens they go to the manufacturers and wholesalers and they get the product then they jack up the prices, add drop shipping fees, and monthly fees and expect you to sell it.

You will have more luck selling gravel from my driveway than selling most of the stuff they have because they leave you no room to profit.

Half the time they charge your credit card after your 'free trial' ends anyway look at their BBB report I think that have had 600 complaints in 5 yrs.

That was before they changed their name to Doba before that it was wholesale supplier or some crap like that. The bottom line is DOBA=SCAM!!!

They got a really good word press blog shut down the other day as well because they threatened to sue word press. The blog was a community blog started and maintained by people who were scammed by Doba.

Seems they feel it is ok to steal from everyone else but cant stand it when the people they rob start talking about it. I did not know the blog owner, but I had visited the website several times. It is sad to see so many people who have good intentions of making a little money lose so much.

Ok so drop shipping . That's the big question here and is it profitable. Yes it is profitable it just paid for my vacation to the tropics. The thing is guys 90% of people who try this fail for a few reasons 1. Lack of knowledge. 2. Lack of effort.3.Lack of funds.4. THE MOST IMPORTANT STOP TRYING TO SELL ON EBAY.

Sorry I don't mean to piss anyone off, but honestly it is not the products, the suppliers, Salehoo, or anything else that you can blame stuff on, their is no magic site either . It is just about learning the right way to do this and having the money to do it .

I can show you a website that is selling Mega Goods products and clearing $1500.00 a month. You need a website and you need SEO that is it. Other than that it is about numbers .

You get 1 sale for every 100 visits. Lets say you make just $5.00 a sale and that is the below the lowest average. Then you get your website listed for a keyword that gets 5000 hits a day you will make $250.00-300 a day easy.

Then you repeat this scenario 2 or 3 times with different sites.

Look before you guys go running off to buy the cheapest crap website you can find on a shoe string budget know this.

1. Cheap monthly payment websites WILL NOT WORK ! Google reads the code from all of these rent a stores as duplicate content. Which means they will not list them high for keywords, and you will not get the visits, or sales. You have to have a REAL WEBSITE HOSTED ON YOUR OWN SERVER, or a server you rent from Host Gator or Go Daddy. These do not have to cost 1000s of dollars I can show you where to get one for about 350.00 that will beat any 1000.00 website all day.

2. If you think what I described above is easy your crazy as @#$%It takes working everyday for at least 8 hours a day for the next 5-8 months. If you think their is some automated solution that is easy that works, QUIT NOW ! You will save your self a ton of time and money.

If you have the desire to work and make money take the time to read everything here for one as the info you will learn is priceless.

Stop looking for other directories, or products you have enough here, quit being a cheap ass . Invest some money into a real website and SEO. Work hard study, work hard study, don't give up and at the end of the day you will come out making a ton of money.