Amazing !! I know Bamber's cartoons, and am really surprised of his multi-talent.Cartoonists are usually known for their quick scribbly work, catching one or two important features to catch the personality/ character of what they are portraying.The cutaway artist, sitting down to a labour of detail attention to capture exactly what is to be seen.

Or should I just think an artist is an artist is an.....

Not necessarily Marc, most 'artists' can't do technical illustration, Gavin McLeod always said he didn't understand how I worked out the perspective. I told him it was easy and I'd show him how if he showed me how to airbrush things slightly out-of-focus. Sadly it didn't happen. But Jim Bamber is more like me, I think, in being more of a model-maker, craftsman-type - some of his artwork was/is (I haven't seen any of his work for ten years) more like installations, 3D works like opening wooden garage doors concealing the nose of a Ferrari, and as I have said before, I thought of my cutaways more as 2D models than artwork.

I don't know if pre-war motorsport is of interest here, but just asking.

Are there any cutaways in existence of the 1938 Alfa Romeo 2900B Mille Miglia, or of any of the other less exalted 2900B variations? (I guess that includes the type35 racer. I've seen at least one Bimotore drawing here after three nights of reading all the posts.) I know its not a post war racer, but if anyone would know of such .... I think they're probably here.

I have just one cutaway on my hard drive, lifted from c&sc, of a Komenda design for a GT version with "McLaren seating" that was never built, of the Auto Union V16 racer (that was), but clearly the design shape influenced Dr Porsche. Brian Nation is the artist.

I've been called a lot worse than that, seasalt, I can tell you. What a fantastic car shown in the cutaway, I've seen something about it before, can't remember when, though. As to your request, macoran or ibsenop are bound to come up with something...

ISTR that we have covered this before, abvout 4/5 years ago, under something like the Auto Union P Wagen. Maybe we can find it again as I recall that there were several drawings and/or photos.
Roger Lund

I bought these two from a stall at the Luton Festival of Transport yesterday. Tony's I don;t recognise from the last few pages (unless it was posted ages ago) and the second one is a Ferrari but it's not finished and has no name but does have little pointers with scribbles of ask such and such for more info - it's fascinating and any clues would be much appreciated!!

Ah ha! I wonder who had them originaly! The first is a chromacopy, now no longer available due to ink-jet printers and computers, but they were a high-quality print, and although some colours were slightly out they were very light-fast, so very little fading over time.

The second is mine, a print of the working drawing of the Neil Corner Ferrari Dino V12 that I posted in colour on about page 4 of this thread. I hope you didn't pay too much Gregor.

Ah ha! I wonder who had them originaly! The first is a chromacopy, now no longer available due to ink-jet printers and computers, but they were a high-quality print, and although some colours were slightly out they were very light-fast, so very little fading over time.

The second is mine, a print of the working drawing of the Neil Corner Ferrari Dino V12 that I posted in colour on about page 4 of this thread. I hope you didn't pay too much Gregor.

The guy who sold them was in his early 60s and had a small tressle table, mainly with junk but of course when I saw a Matthews masterpiece I had to get it and I just really liked the workings on the other drawing (he knew nothing about either of them).

The colours on the March do look very sharpe (slightly dark) and the Ferrari working picture is great (even with the dark 1/3rd) and I especially liked the little notes that I now know that you wrote!! He wanted £50 for the pair (£30 for the Ferrari and £20 for the March) and I got him down to £40.

To be honest as I owe you a painting I was going to give you the March one if you didn't have it (hence the question on the Baldock thread - I was hoping you were coming along tonight) but as they are both yours then you're more than welcome to them, FOC, balances out what you sent to me the other week. Let me know, pm if you'd prefer.

Interesting that he wanted more for the drawing - I'm glad you didn't pay too much. I have a couple of copies of the March, and the originals of both, but thanks for the thought. I didn't realise the Ferrari was 1/3 dark, I thought it was your photo! It wasn't printed on any special paper, just the stuff they use in drawing-office supplies and services. I've often wondered about its archival qualities, all the ones I've got are in a plan-chest, and those that I've seen framed seem OK, perhaps that one was in an unusual situation, like Montgomery Burns' Nuclear Power Station control room wall in Springfield, 2/3 hidden behind some lead!

1973 Avallone FordBrazilian car with chassis based on a modified Lola T-142 and body based on Lola T222.Tubular chassis. Ford V8, Dodge V8 or Chevrolet in Line 6 cil motor.

Cutaway by Walter Brito.

Ibsen

That is good Ibsen ! I'd like to see one with an in line 6 cylinder in the back !!Would you have some material on Brazilian racing to open a separate thread like Repco von Brabham did on the Argentinian MF1 series ?

Interesting, but my true passion is the Alfa Romeo 2900B. Are there any cutaways in existence of the 1938 Alfa Romeo 2900B Mille Miglia, or of any of the other less exalted 2900B variations? (I guess that includes the type35 racer. I've seen at least one Bimotore drawing here after three nights of reading all the posts.) I know its not a post war racer, but if anyone would know of such .... I think they're probably here.

Henri, Jim Allington did a Novi-Ferguson, but I'm not sure if it was in '64, and it probably only appeared in Road & Track. I remember he was agonizing over the sizes of the front v rear wheels and tyres, until I plucked up the courage to say that, surely, they would be the same. He slapped his forehead and drew them the same - whether that was correct or not I don't know, but it looked OK! In those days the amount of photographic reference varied, depending on what David Phipps - invariably - could get for him.

Henri, Jim Allington did a Novi-Ferguson, but I'm not sure if it was in '64, and it probably only appeared in Road & Track. I remember he was agonizing over the sizes of the front v rear wheels and tyres, until I plucked up the courage to say that, surely, they would be the same. He slapped his forehead and drew them the same - whether that was correct or not I don't know, but it looked OK! In those days the amount of photographic reference varied, depending on what David Phipps - invariably - could get for him.

I remember he was agonizing over the sizes of the front v rear wheels and tyres, until I plucked up the courage to say that, surely, they would be the same. He slapped his forehead and drew them the same - whether that was correct or not I don't know, but it looked OK!

Interesting, but my true passion is the Alfa Romeo 2900B. Are there any cutaways in existence of the 1938 Alfa Romeo 2900B Mille Miglia, or of any of the other less exalted 2900B variations? (I guess that includes the type35 racer. I've seen at least one Bimotore drawing here after three nights of reading all the posts.) I know its not a post war racer, but if anyone would know of such .... I think they're probably here.

That one was by Rens Biesma for Ben Hendriks when Ben was editing/producing the amazing Alfa history publication, Het Klaverblaadje. It was a 2 page spread in #50, and Ben gave me an ~ 11x17 of it that I have somewhere. Rens gave up on his generous work on Alfa history sometime after Ben passed.

Rens' artwork was an important part of explaining how some of the interesting Alfas were engineered.

Thanks for the compliment.....now can you get a larger pic of that 8C up here ? Maybe I could do a respray on that !

Sadly no, and the site it came from is defunct. I did find the following in a search of my hard drives, but they may have been posted before. I cannot remember all of the cutaways I've seen in this thread!Most of these below are too small to be useful.

As to the Bellu brothers. I thought I posted Serge's Matra MS80. but I'm not sure so here goes again.I'm working on the centre divide of his W196, so that will be in the air soon.The MS80 isn't one of his most detailed.The W196 on the other hand is a stunner !

As to the Mecom Lola being a Bill Bennett you may be quite right there, after all he did get published quite a bit in SCG

The LaTourette drawing again illustrates the fact that spaceframe cars are very cooperative subjects for cutaways - you can get a lot of detail in simply by removing the bodywork and then ghosting the bodywork in the drawing. I can´t recall whether I've posted the Delta T83 FF2000 in this thread (it's nearly 2000 posts now!), so as an example of a space frame car drawn by an amateur, here it is:

I just sent full size scans of Rens' cutaway directly to you. I'm afraid to postone of Fusi's simple Alfa 163 cutaway drawings for fear of stirring Ricartfrenzy. It shares the same kind of inadequate ladder frame as that wonderful Auto Union sports car cutaway recently posted here, and has a flat 16 engine.The car wasn't quite completed but the factory drawings had assigned partnumbers. One interesting thing is that Rens drew 3/4 solids from Fusi's cutaways,reversing the process.