Hows the soundstage? Feel free to reference the PC360 or AD700 if you want, as I'm familiar with them both...

I would say the difference in soundstage size is the comparable from the ad700 to the pc360 as the pc360 to the x1's. But, you can still pinpoint every little thing, and the bass on these makes it one of the most fun headphones to put on your head. I've recently had loaner pairs of HD700's and HD800's, and since I've sent them back now, I've been using my X1's again, and they are just so much more immersive. I can honestly say I enjoy them for movies and games better than the Senn's.

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Bass response is disproportionately important for immersion in games and especially movies. My D7000s exclusively see use for such occasions, yet I almost never pick them up for music.

Is that simply because games and movies tend to be mixed with boomy, bassy subwoofers, speakers and headphones in mind?

The D7000 probably has a very refined bass presentation if all that hype is anything to go by, but if exaggerated bass is the key, what sets it apart from a more balanced headphone with bass boost of some sort applied?

So I get home, after work, and my babies are waiting at my door for me... two days sooner than I expected!

I just played a quick session of BF3 and I must say these are really my favorite headphones for gaming/movies. I mean, my HP100 is a really fun can and has a decent soundstage for a closed headphone... but man that AKG x70x soundstage... really is godlike. Ever since the AD700... a huge soundstage is a must for me when gaming, now.

Is that simply because games and movies tend to be mixed with boomy, bassy subwoofers, speakers and headphones in mind?

The D7000 probably has a very refined bass presentation if all that hype is anything to go by, but if exaggerated bass is the key, what sets it apart from a more balanced headphone with bass boost of some sort applied?

I think the issue is most console gamers don't have a device in the chain to EQ audio.

You've been spot on with your comparisons which has influenced me to follow in your gear footsteps. I will be paying very close attention...

Edit: I will be curious to see if you end up keeping the Annies and the X1... or one or the other.

Thanks

I'm curious about that too.

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So I get home, after work, and my babies are waiting at my door for me... two days sooner than I expected!

I just played a quick session of BF3 and I must say these are really my favorite headphones for gaming/movies. I mean, my HP100 is a really fun can and has a decent soundstage for a closed headphone... but man that AKG x70x soundstage... really is godlike. Ever since the AD700... a huge soundstage is a must for me when gaming, now.

And man, that headband... reeeeeeeeally comfy!

Very nice, I hope you enjoy their sexiness. Did you check them for rattle yet?

BTW, there is an open version of the HP100, the HP200. Maybe you should swap your HP100 for them

Originally Posted by NamelessPFGIs that simply because games and movies tend to be mixed with boomy, bassy subwoofers, speakers and headphones in mind?

The D7000 probably has a very refined bass presentation if all that hype is anything to go by, but if exaggerated bass is the key, what sets it apart from a more balanced headphone with bass boost of some sort applied?

There is a great deal of activity going on below 50Hz in many movies and games that very few headphones can convey effectively. Even the D7000 doesn't do quite as well as my stereo + sub when it comes to subterranean bass, though Dolby Headphone makes up for that.

BTW, there is an open version of the HP100, the HP200. Maybe you should swap your HP100 for them

Did you check them for rattle yet?

Yes, I was very intrigued by the HP200 when I read up on it. My HP100, however, is there for the sole purpose of being my closed can (for when isolation is needed)... so switching wouldn't serve me any purpose. I actually thought about the HP200, X1, and HE400 to be my open can after my mishap with the Q701... but I just couldn't sacrifice that lovely soundstage and signature. Therefore, now I have the Annies.

I'm pretty happy with what I have:

Home: Annie (open), HP100 (closed)

On the go: GR07 MK2 (IEM), Amperior (on-ear)

I only want to stick with one of each and they all compliment each other very well. I don't have enough ears for too many cans...

Edit: Too scared to do the sound test. I will let you know once I muster up the courage...

Gotta return this defective used Dss 7.1 I got. Has this weird channel imbalance, like it's actually 6.1 with one the speakers missing on the left side. It's impossible to find a brand new one these days. Think I may have to buy the DPX21 which actually comes bundled with the original DSS at <$110.