DaveinOlyWA wrote:well first off, its an EVSE, not a charger and if so, what brand are you getting and how will it interface with your home?

I don't understand the distinction between the EVSE and a charger and a simple google search didn't answer my question. I'll continue to research. I don't remember the brand either but it had a plug that fits the 220V socket in my garage. Not sure if that necessarily makes it a level 2. I'll tell you more after i get the car this week.

DaveinOlyWA wrote:well first off, its an EVSE, not a charger and if so, what brand are you getting and how will it interface with your home?

I don't understand the distinction between the EVSE and a charger and a simple google search didn't answer my question. I'll continue to research. I don't remember the brand either but it had a plug that fits the 220V socket in my garage. Not sure if that necessarily makes it a level 2. I'll tell you more after i get the car this week.

well minor distinction really but the EVSE does not provide power that the car can use. it has to be converted to DC so that is the charger's job which is in the LEAF itself.

So in the wild; L2 stations are EVSEs that provide AC power your car needs to convert to DC with its charger to store in the battery. Fast Chargers or Chademo's are chargers because they provide DC power that is directly stored into the battery.

My numbers on Friday (3/24/17), also for a 2017 SV but with 12,000 miles per year, as follows:

$2800 down (drive-off, all included, no surprises),

$140/month (=$129+8.25% tax) * 35 months

$10,5xx residual from 0.3 * MSRP of $35,xxx

Non-VPP; no floor mats or cargo cover (=$400-500!)

Discounts were roughly as follows:

Dealer took $8,000 off MSRP

Nissan took $4,000 off of that, plus the $7,500 "FTC"

Plus, looking forward to

State rebate

PG&E rebate ($500)

This was from Antioch Nissan, not one of your bigger or most EV-friendly dealers (no DCFC in spite of a great location and plenty of space), but the closest to home. I got the deal by asking if they could beat a quote that I received from Boardwalk in Redwood City. I only gave them the monthly ($129) that I was looking for and asked them for the smallest down payment they could come up with. They beat Boardwalk's offer by $250, so I went with them. Sale went very smoothly, and I may have successfully pressured a few of the right people to [ talk to and convince the right person to ] put in a quick charger.

LOVE the SV -- after "managing" with a lowly S for the past three years. And amazingly, my monthly payment dropped by 33%, even though I have a much newer car, a better model, and 25% more battery capacity/range! I don't know if I screwed up in 2014 or if the deals are just that much better now, in these months before the 2018's debut.

4angles wrote:Following up on SF bay area lease deals -

Sunday we leased a 2017 SV for 36 months, including 15,000 miles/ year for $2400 down and $180.74/month. Numbers include our 8.0% tax. I initially set the deal up with Richard Sam, Internet sales manager at the Autocom Oakland Nissan dealer. On Sunday Richard handed us off to Ray Abad. We were treated well by both. I talked to a number of other dealers who could not or would not match the deal. I was hoping a closer dealer could save us the 100 mile round trip to Oakland but they did not.

The deal relied on a VPP incentive as part of the capitalized cost reduction. I don't know what portion of the cap reduction was VPP, but the total reduction was $11,470 off the agreed value.

Not sure if anyone reads this but I was pricing new leafs in the Los Angeles area and wanted to see if these prices are decent. For a 2017 SV I was Quoted 27700 out the door. This includes all taxes fees etc. I have 9% sales tax so that's a killer. MSRP on this one is 35709 and it came out to 24699 after their discount and Nissan discount. They also offered me 0% for 5 or 6 years. So they offered it at about 11k under MSRP. I'd get the entire $7500 back from the fed and $2500 from California. I am intrigued by a new one since i will know the history and it will only cost me about 17k after all is said and done.

That sounds pretty good (11k off MSRP).In Colorado (Denver and Fort Collins areas), we are seeing 10k off MSRP without any discussion on 2017 S models (and ~12k off MSRP based on being an Xcel customer for any new model).Just some data points from here. Hope that helps.thanks