Added in edit - OOPS I screwed up my edit, so I apologize to all and keiths, for cutting the quotes referencing that this is his Original Post!

Those two threads -- the original and the follow-on -- are the perfect introduction to the trainwreck that is UD.

You have:

1) GilDo and DaveTard displaying utter ignorance of a field in which they both claim expertise;2) an almost universal inability among the ID supporters to think abstractly;3) their repeated refusal to listen to commenters who actually know what they're talking about;4) several John A. Davison rants;5) an actual prayer, followed by a theological debate;6) deleted comments;7) a pathetic attempt by Gil, three days after the fact, to pretend that his original post was just a joke;8) some bold-font moderator chest-thumping (by Scott);9) DaveTard misunderstanding the concept of irreducible complexity, and being corrected by an ID critic;10) banninations of Tom English, Reciprocating Bill and me (posting as Karl Pfluger) for exposing DaveTard's chumpitude; and11) DaveTard frantically defending himself as he is mocked by the good folks at AtBC.

It is a true tard extravaganza, lacking only a WAD meltdown and some O'Learian pseudoprose.[/quote]

Thanks for the links!

It's interesting to note that back in 2006 there was actually some back-and-forth discussion at UD!

If only Dave could have resisted the urge to get out of trouble and not use the Big Red Bannination Button....

but I guess that's like asking a clown to leave off the Big Red Nose.

What will the New Year Bring?

--------------Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08