So I've been keeping a close eye on the liveblogs going on, and I wanted to know if Barok's brother who got murdered by the serial killer, "Professor", is his younger brother or his older brother? Is he the guy in the picture who looks just like him? I may have gotten some information mixed up or wrong here...

Holmes figured out he was still alive and 'resuscitated' him, but he was probably in a poor state and suffering from amnesia. Holmes then forced the crew to hide the fact that Asougi was alive (implied by Holmes himself to be blackmail) and drop the body off in Hong Kong. What Holmes didn't plan for was that Asougi would go 'missing' there. For some reason, Asougi boarded a ship in Hong Kong and ended up at English immigration with no passport nor memories. There's probably more to this story, but somehow this whole thing led to Vortex assigning him to be Barok's disciple to 'keep him close'. Vortex claims that he made him wear a mask because it'd be a pain to explain why Barok was associating with a Japanese man.

Holmes figured out he was still alive and 'resuscitated' him, but he was probably in a poor state and suffering from amnesia. Holmes then forced the crew to hide the fact that Asougi was alive (implied by Holmes himself to be blackmail) and drop the body off in Hong Kong. What Holmes didn't plan for was that Asougi would go 'missing' there. For some reason, Asougi boarded a ship in Hong Kong and ended up at English immigration with no passport nor memories. There's probably more to this story, but somehow this whole thing led to Vortex assigning him to be Barok's disciple to 'keep him close'. Vortex claims that he made him wear a mask because it'd be a pain to explain why Barok was associating with a Japanese man.

Does Sherlock actually do anything of worth in this game at all? It sounds like he's been reduced to a mere background character. This game as a whole sounds like it'd be no different if Sherlock wasn't around.

Does Sherlock actually do anything of worth in this game at all? It sounds like he's been reduced to a mere background character. This game as a whole sounds like it'd be no different if Sherlock wasn't around.

I'm not sure how much spoilers you want or how much you know about the game right now so I'll just say yes, especially in the last 2 cases.

I'm not quite sure I understand the whole "assassin exchange" thing and how Asougi works into all this. His mission was apparently to kill Inspector Gregson because of his relation to the "Professor" case. But why Asougi? Why would he do it, did he know why he was asked to do it and who it was for?

Why was Yuujin not in the epilogue? He was made out to be a pretty big character throughout the game, but the last we see of him is him having a half-offscreen discussion with Holmes. I'm assuming he goes back to Japan with Naruhodou and Susato, but we don't see him on the ship and we don't see him in the 'where are they now' segments either. Did they suddenly forget he exists? He shows up in the staff roll to dance with Sherlock, but that doesn't tell us anything.

And which one of these two is Maurice de Quilco and which one is Marco di Gicho?

Spoiler: DGS2-2

I'm pretty darn sure that's Selden. We never actually see him in-game or get a profile for him, but the evidence icon for his file has a photo on the front that seems to be a version of that image.

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Spoiler: 2-4 and 2-5

I'm not quite sure I understand the whole "assassin exchange" thing and how Asougi works into all this. His mission was apparently to kill Inspector Gregson because of his relation to the "Professor" case. But why Asougi? Why would he do it, did he know why he was asked to do it and who it was for?

Spoiler: 2-5

Asougi went to Jigoku with the letter he got showing that his dad was the Professor, and pressed Jigoku to let him study abroad. Jigoku presumably decided this was enough leverage and bait to get Asougi to agree to killing Gregson and told him that would be the terms of him going abroad. Asougi agreed to it, but as he says in case 5 he never intended to actually kill Gregson (though he was momentarily tempted when Gregson told him the truth about the forgery.)

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How come Mikotoba had a casefile written up for the Hound of the Baskervilles? ...Rather, how could Iris have turned it into a Sherlock Holmes novel when Sherlock himself seemingly didn't play any part in solving the mystery?

From everything we hear about the Professor case, it doesn't sound as if Sherlock was investigating it. If he had, surely he would've either called the coroners out on their bullshit or he'd be lamenting his failure to do so in present day. Instead, any character who did play part gives the impression that Holmes was not involved. It was just... some serial killer who got caught 'because Gregson pushed for an autopsy and that's how they found decisive evidence'. Mikotoba happened to be involved in the autopsy, but nothing else in the case. So why, then, was there a casefile big enough for Iris to turn into a novel with enough details that it could...........what was the reasoning behind hushing it up again- ah yes- that it could unlock the secret behind her parents if she'd dug even deeper into it?

Still ridiculous reasoning, if you ask me. She'd already done her share of digging back when she wrote the novel. If there were something incriminating in there like, say, one of the victims had a daughter with his wife, who was a Baskerville and that wife died in childbirth, surely she would be putting the pieces together in her head right about now. She's a genius whose deductive reasoning surpasses that of Holmes, after all.

How come Mikotoba had a casefile written up for the Hound of the Baskervilles? ...Rather, how could Iris have turned it into a Sherlock Holmes novel when Sherlock himself seemingly didn't play any part in solving the mystery?

From everything we hear about the Professor case, it doesn't sound as if Sherlock was investigating it. If he had, surely he would've either called the coroners out on their bullshit or he'd be lamenting his failure to do so in present day. Instead, any character who did play part gives the impression that Holmes was not involved. It was just... some serial killer who got caught 'because Gregson pushed for an autopsy and that's how they found decisive evidence'. Mikotoba happened to be involved in the autopsy, but nothing else in the case. So why, then, was there a casefile big enough for Iris to turn into a novel with enough details that it could...........what was the reasoning behind hushing it up again- ah yes- that it could unlock the secret behind her parents if she'd dug even deeper into it?

Still ridiculous reasoning, if you ask me. She'd already done her share of digging back when she wrote the novel. If there were something incriminating in there like, say, one of the victims had a daughter with his wife, who was a Baskerville and that wife died in childbirth, surely she would be putting the pieces together in her head right about now. She's a genius whose deductive reasoning surpasses that of Holmes, after all.

Spoiler: DGS2-5

Mikotoba mentions that he barely left any records of the case due to how painful and secret it was, so he was really surprised when Iris expanded them into a full novel. It's not clear how much was Iris investigating on her own, but given she was 8 or 9 at the time, probably not much.

I think Iris probably just made the story up almost entirely out of whole cloth, but it still freaked Mikotoba out.

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If most of the story is pure fiction, why decide to shut it down in the end? Because that's what Mikotoba decided after thinking it over for a while, right? That it couldn't be published? There had to be something incriminating in there, if only a shred of it. Maybe a suspicion (from Mikotoba, who would be Watson in the narrative) that the person who was caught was not truly the Professor, which might spur further investigation into the case. Or perhaps that the culprit was Japanese, which could start controversy among the people who read it?

If most of the story is pure fiction, why decide to shut it down in the end? Because that's what Mikotoba decided after thinking it over for a while, right? That it couldn't be published? There had to be something incriminating in there, if only a shred of it. Maybe a suspicion (from Mikotoba, who would be Watson in the narrative) that the person who was caught was not truly the Professor, which might spur further investigation into the case. Or perhaps that the culprit was Japanese, which could start controversy among the people who read it?

Spoiler: DGS2-5

A story about someone related to the Baskerville family using a large dog to kill noblemen. Maybe Mikotoba thought the hound part sounds too similar to the Professor, and Klimt's wife being from Baskerville would sound like the story pointing out Klimt was the Professor?

Trouble is that we'll never know exactly what was in the Baskervilles manuscript, because the game never goes into detail about it (or any other story written by Iris for that matter). Was it similar to the ACD version of the Hound of the Baskervilles, or was it an entirely different spin on that? For instance, we know she wanted to write a story about the Unbreakable Speckled Band based on what Holmes told her about it and decided to 'take some artistic liberties and make the culprit a snake because that's more exciting', but we don't know what else she tweaked. Just how far does Iris stray from the original case?

One question I asked about the previous game and have not seen an answer for this one: are there any bad endings/special game over parts in the game?

Spoiler: DGS2-5

I would imagine that at least the final confrontation with Vortex doesn't have just the usual "Guilty" game over.

Spoiler: DGS2-5

"Vortex! Vortex! Vortex! Vortex!" when you messed up the final present

But the truth is all guilty verdicts in secret trials (1-1, 2-4, 2-5) are a little bit different from regular trials.

I'm assuming 2-3 has a non-standard game over towards the end.

Spoiler: DGS2-3

Since the last confrontation with Dr Sithe happens right as the judge is about to declare a Not Guilty verdict for Dobinbough. So what happens if you fail on her testimony? Dobinbough is found Not Guilty but Sithe gets away?

One question I asked about the previous game and have not seen an answer for this one: are there any bad endings/special game over parts in the game?

Spoiler: DGS2-5

I would imagine that at least the final confrontation with Vortex doesn't have just the usual "Guilty" game over.

Spoiler: DGS2-5

"Vortex! Vortex! Vortex! Vortex!" when you messed up the final present

But the truth is all guilty verdicts in secret trials (1-1, 2-4, 2-5) are a little bit different from regular trials.

I'm assuming 2-3 has a non-standard game over towards the end.

Spoiler: DGS2-3

Since the last confrontation with Dr Sithe happens right as the judge is about to declare a Not Guilty verdict for Dobinbough. So what happens if you fail on her testimony? Dobinbough is found Not Guilty but Sithe gets away?

BTW, to get the bad end in 2-5, you need to fail on the very final present point (or I assume the three-way choice just before). Otherwise Vortex just declares Barok guilty as normal... which still doesn't really make sense, because IIRC you prove Vortex is the shinigami a few presents before that. I think there might be different dialogue for game overs before and after Jigoku's confession though?

Hey! My current life situation is [low-level internal screaming], so I may be slow to respond to things. Thanks for understanding!

One question I asked about the previous game and have not seen an answer for this one: are there any bad endings/special game over parts in the game?

Spoiler: DGS2-5

I would imagine that at least the final confrontation with Vortex doesn't have just the usual "Guilty" game over.

Spoiler: DGS2-5

"Vortex! Vortex! Vortex! Vortex!" when you messed up the final present

But the truth is all guilty verdicts in secret trials (1-1, 2-4, 2-5) are a little bit different from regular trials.

I'm assuming 2-3 has a non-standard game over towards the end.

Spoiler: DGS2-3

Since the last confrontation with Dr Sithe happens right as the judge is about to declare a Not Guilty verdict for Dobinbough. So what happens if you fail on her testimony? Dobinbough is found Not Guilty but Sithe gets away?

BTW, to get the bad end in 2-5, you need to fail on the very final present point (or I assume the three-way choice just before). Otherwise Vortex just declares Barok guilty as normal... which still doesn't really make sense, because IIRC you prove Vortex is the shinigami a few presents before that. I think there might be different dialogue for game overs before and after Jigoku's confession though?

Spoiler: DGS2-5

The dialogue is the same. But before Jigoku's confession, Vortex shoots flames from the jury seats to vote Guilty, which doesn't happen after Jigoku's confession.

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