Is Kevin Arnovitz really making a case for Cuban to get CP3? Using the "global Market" argument to got there? Geez, Cuban really swayed Deron to go there this offseason. This guy Arnovitz really cracks me up. From saying Sterling would wait till the very end to take VDN's option so he won't pay him in the off-season, to using a "Global market" to get CP3 to Dallas. In case Arnovitz hasn't noticed, Sterling payed a guy to leave ( Gomes) and he's using almost every penny to fill the roster with talent. And speaking of the Global market, we're....

Totally agree Joe Arnovitz is a clown. This situation is totally different then Cleveland. He states that this will be the same team for awhile. Lamar is up after this year so is Billups. Crawfords contract can be voided in two and hills contract is up. Also since we are above the salary cap we would get a MLE every year. With the new CBA 5 million is quite a bit.

I also found it humorous that seeing him on the podcast and the clipper blog live cast he is negative on everything. Some guys on here should be doing a podcast becuase those guys have no clue.

They talk **** on the crawford deal but in Vinnys system crawford is a perfect option becuase he creates on his own better then anybody. Then he said how the clippers used 4 million on Chauncey but if I recall based on pincus it doesnt count against are cap.

Overall you can tell the guy doesnt know to much about the game

clippermitch

07/30/2012 - 12:14 AM PST

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All the ESPN and 710 talking heads are Laker homers. Really annoys me but they are the official Faker station so it is what it is.

Only person that gives the Clips credit is Marcelus Wiley.

Anyways, if CP3 can find a new team next year that will be better than this team and is worth losing $25M, it won't be on Sterling.

sz123456

07/30/2012 - 01:59 AM PST

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Not sure if those guys are intentionally trying to be negative to avoid being labeled "Clippers Homers", but I disagree with a lot of what they said. Our offseason was incredible, and unless the Dwight to the Lakers deal pans out, we are winning the division.

And I loved the little part at the end about the Clippers possibly being hit with injuries when comparing them to the Lakers who have zero bench and will only go as far as their starting 5 (which includes 38 year old Nash, Bynum who is almost expected to have a season-ending injury, and Kobe going into his twilight years) takes them.

seanrooks

07/30/2012 - 02:56 AM PST

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I wouldn't guarantee a division title. The Lakers won the division last year and vastly improved their biggest weakness(point guard) by adding a former MVP. The Nash addition could be really, really scary.

While the Clippers added more players and are deeper, none will have the impact Nash will. Also, in regards to injuries and such: Nash and Kobe have for the most part done a very good job of staying on the court, and Bynum played a full season last year.

On the Clippers' side, there is also plenty to worry about: Billups is 35 and coming off a serious injury, and despite his claims may miss a decent chunk of the season; Odom is 33 and coming off by far the worst season of his career; Hill, despite being an effective player, is turning 40, and had a career low year as well; Crawford had a pretty bad season and is 32; Butler(also 32) fell apart last year and hasn't been the same since having knee surgery a year and a half ago. Not to mention that Jordan and Bledsoe still need to show some improvement. Basically, the Clippers really only have two known values: Griffin and Paul. The others all represent some pretty big question marks. Will Odom and Crawford bounce back now that they are in better situations? Will Billups and Butler return fully from their injuries? Will Hill continue to be effective into his 40s? Will Bledsoe and Jordan improve? They could all play really well, or they could all play terribly(probably somewhere in between). But to say the Lakers have age and injury problems without looking at our own is silly. Both teams have star power, both teams have some question marks, both teams have weaknesses. Right now, I'd give the Lakers the slight edge simply because the Nash acquisition will have a greater impact than the Clippers' new bench. But if everything goes right, I can see the Clippers taking the division.

clipper*joe

07/30/2012 - 12:31 PM PST

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seanrooks wrote:

I wouldn't guarantee a division title. The Lakers won the division last year and vastly improved their biggest weakness(point guard) by adding a former MVP. The Nash addition could be really, really scary.

While the Clippers added more players and are deeper, none will have the impact Nash will. Also, in regards to injuries and such: Nash and Kobe have for the most part done a very good job of staying on the court, and Bynum played a full season last year.

I agree that we we don't have the division in our pocket, but neither do the Lakers. The Lakers won the division due to us giving them the division when Billups went down, and when CP3 hurt himself during our last games. I'm not saying the Lakers didn't deserve it, I'm saying the division could have easily been ours.

As far as Nash vastly improving the Lakers' biggest weakness goes, I disagree there too. Lakers' biggest weakness was depth, not at PG.

Lakers have won with miserable PG's ( Fisher). When Sessions was brought in, he was asked to slow his game for the "other" guys. Kobe and the others were not accustomed to a fast guard, playing fast.

Sessions was relegated to being another Fisher...Bring up the ball, and give it to Kobe. On paper, they've improved at the PG position but the Lakers have been successful, and won championships without one.

I think Gasol is one who might benefit the most but I don't see anyone on the team that has the players that Nash thrives in.

Before we go hailing the Lakers who basically got a good aging player to thrive in a position that's never been vital to them to win championships, lets appreciate what we have done by patching in the holes to an already good team.

Bottom line:

The Lakers' core has been together for years. They're all in their 30's. They went out and got a PG in the twilight of his career to RUN that team for the next 3 years. We, on the other hand, got some veterans, and a old player, to play roles on a team that has a young core...On short contracts. The Lakers' problem was never about a PG, it was about age, and lacking a good bench.

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On the Clippers' side, there is also plenty to worry about: Billups is 35 and coming off a serious injury, and despite his claims may miss a decent chunk of the season; Odom is 33 and coming off by far the worst season of his career; Hill, despite being an effective player, is turning 40, and had a career low year as well; Crawford had a pretty bad season and is 32; Butler(also 32) fell apart last year and hasn't been the same since having knee surgery a year and a half ago. Not to mention that Jordan and Bledsoe still need to show some improvement. Basically, the Clippers really only have two known values: Griffin and Paul. The others all represent some pretty big question marks. Will Odom and Crawford bounce back now that they are in better situations? Will Billups and Butler return fully from their injuries? Will Hill continue to be effective into his 40s? Will Bledsoe and Jordan improve? They could all play really well, or they could all play terribly(probably somewhere in between). But to say the Lakers have age and injury problems without looking at our own is silly. Both teams have star power, both teams have some question marks, both teams have weaknesses. Right now, I'd give the Lakers the slight edge simply because the Nash acquisition will have a greater impact than the Clippers' new bench. But if everything goes right, I can see the Clippers taking the division.

I get what you're saying but here is the difference:

Our aging guys play but small roles on the big stage. Without Billups, we managed to lose out by one game behind the healthy Lakers...One Game. We also managed to lose one more game than the Lakers did in the playoffs, playing a team the Lakers had a harder time with in the regular season. Their fans were hoping not to face the Grizz, we took that as a challenge.

What we needed this season, was height, defense, and good depth. We filled all the wholes we had, and now we'll have a full off-season, training camp, and more rest between games. I won't guarantee anything, but I think we've one of, if not the deepest team in the league. I think we've had a better off-season than the Lakers have.

Clippersfan86

11/01/2012 - 10:25 PM PST

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I just posted 3 great interviews you guys need to listen to, get to it!

This one is Clippers podcast with Arnovitz and Heimer and Crawford interviews. I love Heimer he's more optimistic where as Arnovitz is a Lakers kiss up who predicts 48 wins or less for us this year and spends half of his time on Lakers podcasts making nice with Lakers folks.

Does anyone know if there's a podcast out there that does game breakdowns? The few i've listened to are weekly and don't really get into game action, more just general team direction and rumors and whatnot.

Also, which podcast do you guys like most? I like the ESPN one the most really, but **** is good to mix it up. Thanks!

JTClipsfan

02/09/2014 - 03:24 PM PST

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wow 30+ views and no replies, wonder why I never go on this forum.

ohMEohMy!

02/09/2014 - 03:33 PM PST

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the only one i know that does individual games is Clipperblog Live. more of a google meetup/youtube video than a podcast, but it's really down to earth. i enjoy it.