Meh. Remember how many linemen he ran off? Remember how bad his offense was in 2001 without Heupel running it?

Heupel is a better OC, IMO. We could use someone like Wickline to man our offensive line, however.

OU had massive injury problems on offense in 2001. But yes, a lot of offensive linemen were ran off, but then we found out several years later that it was still happening to varying degrees and that is because of how tough Bob Stoops' right-hand man is in Jerry Schmidt as far as pushing players beyond their capabilities both mentally and physically.

A lot of offensive linemen were used to having their way at the prep level and were never mentally tough because they had it so easy physically, but then they got a wake up call at the collegiate level and by Jerry Schmidt and a number of them can't handle it.

One thing Mangino would certainly bring is a valuable addition as an overall game-planner. I wouldn't mind dumping Patton or Kittle in favor of Mangino because he brings more to the uh...table than just offensive line coaching. He was also very good at calling well-timed run plays. OU wasn't a good rushing team statistically in the 2000 season, but when they did call run plays, they were almost always perfectly executed. OU hasn't had that in a very long time.

If mangino could come in as an assistant and work with our OL I'm all for it. But Heupel is doing a good job. He has only held the position of OC for a couple years and he is very young and will only get better.

Did you say Heupel is doing a good job??? I politely beg to differ, sir.

I think Heupel was handed the job way too early. But now that he has it and has done it a couple years I think he is going to do some great things before he is done. I've seen his short comings as OC and admit he's made a number. But it's to late to turn back now. Do you think he will get better? Do you think he can grow into a solid OC?

OU had massive injury problems on offense in 2001. But yes, a lot of offensive linemen were ran off, but then we found out several years later that it was still happening to varying degrees and that is because of how tough Bob Stoops' right-hand man is in Jerry Schmidt as far as pushing players beyond their capabilities both mentally and physically.

A lot of offensive linemen were used to having their way at the prep level and were never mentally tough because they had it so easy physically, but then they got a wake up call at the collegiate level and by Jerry Schmidt and a number of them can't handle it.

One thing Mangino would certainly bring is a valuable addition as an overall game-planner. I wouldn't mind dumping Patton or Kittle in favor of Mangino because he brings more to the uh...table than just offensive line coaching. He was also very good at calling well-timed run plays. OU wasn't a good rushing team statistically in the 2000 season, but when they did call run plays, they were almost always perfectly executed. OU hasn't had that in a very long time.

I think Heupel was handed the job way too early. But now that he has it and has done it a couple years I think he is going to do some great things before he is done. I've seen his short comings as OC and admit he's made a number. But it's to late to turn back now. Do you think he will get better? Do you think he can grow into a solid OC?

Josh has potential, and that is very evident... but the jury is still out on him as a play-caller. I am not a fan of what i think he is or will become as an OC (stylistically). But , now that LJ is leaving, and a new year is forthcoming, I will give it one more year before I go grab the pitchforks and torches.

jury is still out on Josh but he has should remarkable improvement from year one to year two calling plays. I'm sure he'll be better next year too. At this point mangino would be a help as position coach but not OC.

How was he an awesome O-Line coach? We couldn't run the damn ball. Against anyone. The offense in 2001 was horrible.

It probably had something to do with an inexperienced and injury plagued offensive line and no threat in the passing game in the 2nd half of the season when Jason White was finished for the season and Nate Hybl was playing with a broken shoulder on his throwing side. Not a good situation all around.

I love the way Mark Mangino created a running game in the spread offense. You don't need to line up in the I or the wishbone formation to run the ball effectively. Would love to see how he implements a ground game with any of the quarterbacks on campus.

Love how his O line blacked and I love his play calling at Kansas. ANy O lineman that leaves because a coach is a little mean is to big a **** anyway!

Wilson didn't call a perfect game in 2008, but if Murray plays, we win. Wilson was the best OC, by far, under stoops.

Wilson was the offensive line coach and run-game coordinator and that is the aspect that USC read like a book as what OU's offensive line was doing was tipping of USC. Wilson's goal line play-calling in the Florida game was the worst sequence of offensive playcalls in college football history.

USC knew if AD was in the game, 9 times out of 10 we were running. USC knew if KeJuan Jones was in the game, White wouldn't throw to him nor the TE. They played a cover 2 and paid little attention to any check down or anything out of the backfield. No need to because Chuck long wouldn't call it and White would never see it.

AD or Kejuan on a swing pass, a play action to the TE in the flat or anything that required their LBs do anything but man their gap would have slowed them down a step. That is all on Chuck Long. Doesn't matter if you are a run game coordinator if your OC calls a shitty game and can't make adjustments.

Long had a full complement of players. Wilson did not. Murray makes a huge difference against Florida.

I love the way Mark Mangino created a running game in the spread offense. You don't need to line up in the I or the wishbone formation to run the ball effectively. Would love to see how he implements a ground game with any of the quarterbacks on campus.

Love how his O line blacked and I love his play calling at Kansas. ANy O lineman that leaves because a coach is a little mean is to big a **** anyway!

Wilson was the offensive line coach and run-game coordinator and that is the aspect that USC read like a book as what OU's offensive line was doing was tipping of USC. Wilson's goal line play-calling in the Florida game was the worst sequence of offensive playcalls in college football history.

Was that you I heard in the stands behind me saying, "call the touchdown play"?

KU lost a close game to Georgia Tech in the 1948 Orange Bowl. Coach I think was J.V. Sikes and their QB was Red Hogan from KC. KU may have tied OU for the Big 6 Title in'48. Mangino did a great jon but it wasn't a 1st for KU in the OB. And the J-Hawks lost a Sugar Bowl game cause they had 12 men on the field on goal line stand. But they have had a lot of crappy teams, years and coaches. Should have punished Mark instead of running him off. Both would be the better for it cause I don't think fat Charlie will around in another couple of years.
Would rather have a young up and comer on the staff instead of a retread.