rifraf wrote:any idea if the shorter length Greenfield would be too long for a 20" wheeled Moulton?

The virtue of the Greenfields is that you buy the one size and then can cut it to suit your bike's requirements. The stand leg has graduations marked on it for guidance. Of course measure twice and cut once - and given the choice cut it long and then re-cut later if needed. There would be few problems using it with a Moulton, except that maybe the chainstay may be a bit small for the stand's clamp, it's designed for standard steel frame stays. A bit of suitable packing might fix that.

rifraf wrote:Does Mike use a stand on his TRS Moulton?

I don't believe he does. Some people are yet to be convinced of the verstility of a simple kickstand .

I'll look into getting one ASAP knowing now that I can cut it to suit. Perhaps a one inch section of split garden hose might be suitable packing.Cheers for the heads up

Aushiker wrote:For the Surly Long Haul Trucker, yes I did consider a ESGE Bipod kickstand. Both are similar types of kickstand but but went with the Hebie as much on price and ease of availability as anything. Having seen an ESGE in action I am glad I went with the Hebie. The rubber boots made a difference in sandy conditions.

Andrew, it may be worth taking note of Surly's comments regarding kickstands on Long haul Truckers. Reading between the lines it seems quite a controversy has brewed since it was originally published.

RonK wrote:Andrew, it may be worth taking note of Surly's comments regarding kickstands on Long haul Truckers. Reading between the lines it seems quite a controversy has brewed since it was originally published.

Thanks, but yes I have read the comments and lots of discussion that has followed and I did considered for oh a nano second and then fitted a Hebie Bipod Stand 605 NL anyway. All is good so far and I really don't believe it will be an issue but as in all things time will tell.

Where did everyone buy their Greenfield rear mounted kickstand.I think I've found some on fleabay situated in the states with itslong shipping times.Are they available locally?The fleabay price is $21.12 AU with $10.00 US for USPS First Class Mail InternationalI dont mind the price so much as the delay.http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... K:MEWAX:IT

I just rang them (spoke with Alex) and followed through with a paypay order.Shipping is $11.00Nice and easy so far and I'll let you know when it arrives and how easy (or not) it is to fit to my skinny seat/chainstay Moulton APB.Thanks for the tip IP

Very speedy service from Montague Bikes. As seen above, I paid on Friday and it arrived today (Mon) which is very prompt.Gotta recommend service like that.I'll let you know how I get on fitting it tomorrow.

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Use the rubber/plastic packing that comes with it to protect your paint and snug it onto your frame tubing better. Don't over-tighten the mounting bolts, especially the top-most one, I reckon you can risk cracking the alloy forging by cranking it up too much. There is a bolt underneath the mount that holds the stand leg on - make sure you tighten this one securely, I once had it work loose on me, it'd take a bit but I'd hate to have the stand fall off while riding and lose it.

Riding bikes in traffic - what seems dangerous is usually safe; what seems safe is often more dangerous.

Use the rubber/plastic packing that comes with it to protect your paint and snug it onto your frame tubing better. Don't over-tighten the mounting bolts, especially the top-most one, I reckon you can risk cracking the alloy forging by cranking it up too much. There is a bolt underneath the mount that holds the stand leg on - make sure you tighten this one securely, I once had it work loose on me, it'd take a bit but I'd hate to have the stand fall off while riding and lose it.

Great tips - Thanks IP Looks like I'll be busy with the hacksaw tomorrow as there's a fair bit of excess.The packing appears to be ample although I'll have another squiz in the daylight.Bought a D-lock today off a bloke who wiggle delivered the wrong one to.I jumped at the chance to pay $70 for an Abus Granit X Plus 54 30cmhttp://www.wiggle.co.uk/abus-granit-54- ... mm-d-lock/I'm starting to think I'm getting there as I narrow down my wish list

He also had a Abus City Chain X Plus 1060 110cm Chain Bike Lock for the same price butin the few moments it took me to look up both items online to see what they were someonepipped me to the post and scored the chain. I would have bought both otherwise.Spotted them on the overclockers.com.au site.He sent me a tracking number so hopefully it'll arrive in the next few days from Sydney.

The Abus arrived safely today in new unopened condition.Tis indeed a beast of a lock and looks to be a great defensive weapon against......thieves.It has a little led light in one of the supplied 2 keys to make fumbling in the darka little easier.

rifraf wrote:It has a little led light in one of the supplied 2 keys to make fumbling in the darka little easier.

I presume that's a red light.

I think your mistakenly referring to my eyes after a few wines and a whiskey or three And every car driver knows that cyclists dont stop for red lights - I keep reading that one.Actually tis a blue light Dont want bike thieves to think they have a green light.........

Finally got around to buying a hacksaw and lopping off around 65mm of the stand today. I no longer need to have a brick under both wheels to get the bike to stand upunder its own steam.Very happy with the stand. Cheers for the suggestion

il padrone wrote:There is a bolt underneath the mount that holds the stand leg on - make sure you tighten this one securely, I once had it work loose on me, it'd take a bit but I'd hate to have the stand fall off while riding and lose it.

I'm going to locktite this as I've noticed it has a propensity to loosen. One issue with the smaller wheels perhaps, Ive noticed some frame buzz feedback on rough roads which I'mfairly sure is coming from the kickstand. I'll be interested to see how evident this is now I've finally gotten round to shortening it. There is a smidgeon of float (sideplay) in my unit and no obvious way (to me yet) to pack it.

Mike Kater (now living in Thailand) has the full kit of racks to carry four panniers on his Moulton, plus his tailor-made frame bags. He can do quite extensive and remote touring with the bike.

Hi IP,Mike Katers rear rack is a custom build as Alex Moulton is a fan of flat racks.His front pannier rack (as I've comming) is a relatively new entity, which wasnt availablewhen I bought my bike.I've both flat racks (fore and aft) but have wanted the pannier rack for a while now.When Mikes not so busy and back here in Aus. I may be in a position to glean where he got the rear made and get myself one for the rear.

Hi again all ... It's been almost 18 months since I first started this topic. We purchased the Greenfields Stabilizer kickstands and have been more than happy with them ... apart from one niggling issue ... the rubber stopper at the toe of the stand. We have found that the originals wore quite quickly and have tried all manner of replacements without much luck. It seems that the considerable weight of our fully laden touring rigs has mangled all the alternative rubber feet we have tried so far. Has anybody else had similar problems? Any solutions?CheersGreg