"Cant say that i'm all that tore up about it, but he was a drama free guy who always seemed to give good effort, so i wish him well. Moving on..."

All that was about Ricky Jean Francois. Someone had brought up that our coaches didn't do anything with RJF and I was talking about how much better, stronger and more mature he has gotten.

Tell them he was a 7th round pick who is about to get paid because of his time here.

Yep pd24.

Ncommand, don't appologize as I edited it after you said something to make sure nobody else thinks that. The reason I didn't originally put RJF in the post is the person I quoted responded back to one of my RJF posts so he knew who I was talking about.

To me at the very worst we went out and got players in Dorsey and Williams that should do about the same for a fraction of the cost. Also, remember we are only 2 days into FA and we still have weeks and months to go plus the draft. Will be a lot more going on... we could still sign 2 or 3 more players and you all know what we have in the draft.

Ncommand, don't appologize as I edited it after you said something to make sure nobody else thinks that. The reason I didn't originally put RJF in the post is the person I quoted responded back to one of my RJF posts so he knew who I was talking about.

To me at the very worst we went out and got players in Dorsey and Williams that should do about the same for a fraction of the cost.

That's what I'm expecting. If either guy can delivery more, than great. But If we can get similar production for reduced $$, still a win.

With this talk of him being misused in KC's 3-4: I believe Crennel used a two-gap 3-4, and we are a one gap system. I think a one-gap scheme helps a player like him. I don't think any of our old NT's could be two gappers--just too small, but two-gap NTs are rare animals--see Vince Wilfork. Maybe with proper coaching, a change in scenery and a change in scheme could help him become a solid rotational player/contributor.

I think its funny how some of you are so uninspired by this move. We didn't sign the be-all, end-all free agent on the market but we got a guy that one of the best coaching staffs and personel departments in the league think can help this team and thats good enough for me. I think back to 2011 with the moves this team made and the majority of us were downright disappointed. In the end it was those moves that played a big hand in helping this team reach the NFC championship.

Dude was a #5 overall pick. I'm extremely excited to see what this coaching staff does with him and I think this could end up being one of the pick-ups of the off-season. He wasn't a reach at #5, he has incredible talent. If this staff can light a fire under him we might have ourselves another pro-bowler on defense.

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
I think its funny how some of you are so uninspired by this move. We didn't sign the be-all, end-all free agent on the market but we got a guy that one of the best coaching staffs and personel departments in the league think can help this team and thats good enough for me. I think back to 2011 with the moves this team made and the majority of us were downright disappointed. In the end it was those moves that played a big hand in helping this team reach the NFC championship.

Agreed! Guys like this and Boldin are PERFECT fits for our system. And this is how you build championship teams...

Originally posted by InconvenienTTruth21:
pretty sure Dorsey can do whatever Sopoaga can do
and he's a lot younger

Not a true NT though. He's a lot smaller, weight wise. I saw that he was 297 lbs and Soap was 330. We still don't have a true NT on the roster.

Then again, that 297 was from his combine....5 years ago! Call me crazy, but I bet he's put on a little weight since then.

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by buck:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Glenn Dorsey + Ian Williams =

Both younger but both sub-300 pound guys. These two, at best, are one-gap NT's. I still expect us to get a more prototypical NT high in the draft and would expect Dorsey to spell Justin in run downs at RDE. Veteran insurance with potential for a decent upside with Tomsula.

I think, but not really sure, that Ian Williams is closer to 310 at this point.

And as mentioned, the sub-300lb number for Dorsey was at his combine back in 2008. The odds of him putting on anywhere from 10-15 lbs since then are pretty good.

Originally posted by Ice49er:
Not all Nose Tackles are 6-2 330. Jay Ratliff has been one of the best in the NFL the last couple of years and he is 6-4 298.
NT Kyle Williams of the Bills is 6-1 303.

I hope he has put on at least a little weight. I took a quick look at all the NT's in the league.There are some who weigh in at 290 or less, but they are over 6-2 tall. The shorter ones meanwhile weigh at lesat in the 310 range. I really couldn't find any that were both short and light. Undersized NT's can be successful if they utilize leverage and quickness. I hope Dorsey can take advantage of those abilities and be a productive player.

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