No personal experience from my side sir but I have personally read letters sent by the PNP to expired license holders and seen an actual memo from our local police station directing the PNP to conduct house visits for erring license holders.

My dad got two.

First for a 9mil he sold to his friend who's now dead. He can't find the Deed of Sale and he doesn't know if the piece was subsequently sold to another person so he declared it lost years ago.

The second for a .380 which was stolen along with his other valuables just recently.

The letter from the PNP says it's a Notice for Expired License advising him to renew up to a specified time to avoid liability arising from violation of the provisions in PD 1866 and RA 8294 since expired license is considered revoked therefore possession of said firearm is illegal and a criminal offense punishable by imprisonment and confiscation of firearm.

Both are covered with Affidavits which he submitted to local PNP after receiving the letters.

For peace of mind, he wants both guns delisted from his name. Problem is he has to cough out 15k for both. 5k for the 1st offense and 10k for the 2nd offense.

Someone suggested to execute an affidavit stating that he lost both at the same time to save on the Admin charges. Sounds logical as the fines seem per instance and not based on the number of firearms lost. But I am against it as he has already submitted the individual Affidavits to the local PNP which I guess could have reached FED Crame already.

I believe those Notices if ignored, can be a basis for the PNP to apply for Search Warrants and conduct raids. Though they can't charge illegal possession for something that is no longer in one's "possession", who would ever want to go thru the hassle and trouble plus the humiliation of being raided and searched.

Thank you Bro.
Pero he tried to locate the 2 buyers and nowhere to be found.
What can he do kaya?

thats a bit of a problem kuya pogs, unlike cars if you have a deed of sale ok na but not on guns. FED will still pursue the renewal on your friend (original owner) (if revoked lic., police may secure a search warrant to confiscate the guns-worse case scenario lang nmn but they can.) on what your friend can do he may declare it lost ( but has to pay penalty for this ) 1st offense 5000 on the 2nd gun he has to pay 10000.. the problem if he would loose another gun hell have to pay 15000 and he well not be allowed to posses any other guns any more.

another option is for him to transfer the expired lic to the buyers at his own expense coz he has a deed of sale naman, ( but he must have a picture and two valid id's of the buyer kuya so he can avoid paying penalty..

hope this helps po

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PNP chief Director General Alan Purisima ordered Chief Su™perintendent Raul Petrasanta, director of the Firearms and Explosives Office (FEO), to relax the policy on the renewal of firearms registration, and accommodate those with expired licenses.

Petrasanta said gun holders can renew the registration of their firearms whose licenses have expired for over two years.

He said this would boost the PNP’s effort to account for loose firearms, which might be used in sowing violence during the May elections.

Petrasanta said the PNP is accounting for 490,000 guns with expired licenses from a total of 552,380 loose firearms in the country.

He said 27,640 firearm registrations were expired from one day to six months, while about 65,865 guns have expired licenses from six months to two years. Some 358,883 licenses were not renewed for more than two years, Petrasanta said.

He said police officers implementing the “Oplan Katok” would conduct house-to-house check on gun holders with expired licenses.

The PNP official said police commanders were instructed to give update on their operations on a weekly basis to secure peaceful and orderly elections in May.

“Firearms with expired licenses can be deposited to the police station with jurisdiction on the address of the gun holder. He will be given 15 days to work on the renewal of the registration of his gun,” Petrasanta said.

“Firearms with expired licenses can be deposited to the police station with jurisdiction on the address of the gun holder. He will be given 15 days to work on the renewal of the registration of his gun,” Petrasanta said.

Well, legally speaking, you can't transport your firearms to
the local PD without getting a PTT first.

One way to read the above article is: that any loose guns
found by LEOs in the course of their "Oplan Katok" are to
be deposited in the local PD (brought in by the LEOs), and
the guns' owner has 15 days to make the gun papers right.

If you haven't been raided (err, I mean, 'doorknocked') by
your local LEO's, then maybe you can go to your local PD,
and inform them you wish to renew an expired license,
whereupon you may be issued a PTT, so that you can then
bring your gun(s) in. You will then have 15 days to register
and license your 'loose' firearms. In that sense, it really is
best if you first prep all requirements before the plunge.

Well, legally speaking, you can't transport your firearms to
the local PD without getting a PTT first.

One way to read the above article is: that any loose guns
found by LEOs in the course of their "Oplan Katok" are to
be deposited in the local PD (brought in by the LEOs), and
the guns' owner has 15 days to make the gun papers right.

If you haven't been raided (err, I mean, 'doorknocked') by
your local LEO's, then maybe you can go to your local PD,
and inform them you wish to renew an expired license,
whereupon you may be issued a PTT, so that you can then
bring your gun(s) in. You will then have 15 days to register
and license your 'loose' firearms. In that sense, it really is
best if you first prep all requirements before the plunge.