<quoted text>Every born again Christian has the authority to share the gospel...the keys...not just the Catholic church.And yes Christ would not find the perfect man here on earth to head His church because if He did it would be flawed. That`s the whole reason why there is no true church on earth.I can hear Christ now...."hey Peter, I know you`'re a sinner and I myself hate sin but I want you to be the head of my church".You`'re still the clown Clay.

... and where in the Bible does it say the keys that Christ gave Peter is the Gospel??

<quoted text>Then why dies the RCC preach that subjects pray to Mary as the intercession to have prayers "relayed" in it's course to achieve it's destination?"May we be assisted, we beseech Thee, O Lord, by the worshipful intercession of Thy glorious Mother, the ever-Virgin Mary; that we, who have been enriched by her perpetual blessings, may be delivered from all dangers, and through her loving kindness made to be of one heart and mind: Who livest and reignest world without end.Amen."It appears you do not follow your church doctrine.

Think about it like this:

If you were to give something to a king, would it be wiser to hand it to him yourself, in , say a paper bag with your dirty fingers, or would it be wiser to give it to his queen who would place it on a beautiful platter and present it to him herself graciously?If you were king, which would you prefer?If the thing presented were a request or a gift, which one would you recieve more pleasantly and with a more favorable disposition?

And also:If you were a king, would you be well pleased if the people in your court recognized and honored your queen? Or would you want to hog up all the honor to yourself and encourage the people to treat your queen like any other ordinary woman?

HOW GREAT IS OUR GOD SING IT WITH ME;ALL WHO CALLS UPON THE NAME OF THE MOST HIGH GOD.HOW GREAT IS OUR GOD. CAN WE BRING FORTH WITNESSES TO DECLARE THIS IS THE DAY OF THE LORD GOD OF ISRAEL.LETS PUT OFF ALL NEGEITIVE CHACKLES OF THE NAY SAYERS. WE BELONG TO A MIGHTY GOD, IF GOD STANDS WITH US WHO CAN STAND AGAINST US. GOD WILL DEAL WITH ALL THE FALSE PROPHETS AND ALL THE EVIL THEY HAVE DONE SAYING IT WAS IN THE NAME OF OUR GOD.GOD DOES NOT DO EVIL NOR DOES HE ENDORSE IT.EVIL COMES OUT OF THE HEART OF MEN, NOT GOD.LET ALL THAT HAVE BREATHE PRAISE THE LORD.

Isaiah 40

The Greatness of God

40 Comfort, O comfort My people, says your God.2 Speak [a]kindly to Jerusalem;And call out to her, that her [b]warfare has ended,That her [c]iniquity has been removed,That she has received of the Lords handDouble for all her sins.

3 A voice [d]is calling,Clear the way for the Lord in the wilderness;Make smooth in the desert a highway for our God.4 Let every valley be lifted up,And every mountain and hill be made low;And let the rough ground become a plain,And the rugged terrain a broad valley;5 [e]Then the glory of the Lord will be revealed,And all flesh will see it together;For the mouth of the Lord has spoken.CONT

contIsaiah 40The Greatness of God40 Comfort, O comfort My people, says your God.2 Speak [a]kindly to Jerusalem;And call out to her, that her [b]warfare has ended,That her [c]iniquity has been removed,That she has received of the Lords handDouble for all her sins.3 A voice [d]is calling,Clear the way for the Lord in the wilderness;Make smooth in the desert a highway for our God.4 Let every valley be lifted up,And every mountain and hill be made low;And let the rough ground become a plain,And the rugged terrain a broad valley;5 [e]Then the glory of the Lord will be revealed,And all flesh will see it together;For the mouth of the Lord has spoken.6 A voice says,Call out.Then [f]he answered,What shall I call out?All flesh is grass, and all its [g]loveliness is like the flower of the field.7 The grass withers, the flower fades,[h]When the breath of the Lord blows upon it;Surely the people are grass.8 The grass withers, the flower fades,But the word of our God stands forever.9 Get yourself up on a high mountain,O Zion, bearer of good news,Lift up your voice mightily,O Jerusalem, bearer of good news;Lift it up, do not fear.Say to the cities of Judah,Here is your God!10 Behold, the Lord [i]God will come with might,With His arm ruling for Him.Behold, His reward is with HimAnd His recompense before Him.11 Like a shepherd He will tend His flock,In His arm He will gather the lambsAnd carry them in His bosom;He will gently lead the nursing ewes.12 Who has measured the [j]waters in the hollow of His hand,And marked off the heavens by the [k]span,And [l]calculated the dust of the earth by the measure,And weighed the mountains in a balanceAnd the hills in a pair of scales?13 Who has [m]directed the Spirit of the Lord,Or as His counselor has informed Him?14 With whom did He consult and who gave Him understanding?And who taught Him in the path of justice and taught Him knowledgeAnd informed Him of the way of understanding?15 Behold, the nations are like a drop from a bucket,And are regarded as a speck of dust on the scales;Behold, He lifts up the [n]islands like fine dust.16 Even Lebanon is not enough to burn,Nor its beasts enough for a burnt offering.17 All the nations are as nothing before Him,They are regarded by Him as less than nothing and [o]meaningless.18 To whom then will you liken God?Or what likeness will you compare with Him?19 As for the [p]idol, a craftsman casts it,A goldsmith plates it with gold,And a silversmith fashions chains of silver.20 He who is too impoverished for such an offeringSelects a tree that does not rot;He seeks out for himself a skillful craftsmanTo [q]prepare [r]an idol that will not totter.21 Do you not know? Have you not heard?Has it not been declared to you from the beginning?Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth?22 It is He who [s]sits above the [t]circle of the earth,And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,Who stretches out the heavens like a curtainAnd spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.23 He it is who reduces rulers to nothing,Who makes the judges of the earth [u]meaningless.24 [v]Scarcely have they been planted,[w]Scarcely have they been sown,[x]Scarcely has their stock taken root in the earth,But He merely blows on them, and they wither,And the storm carries them away like stubble.25 To whom then will you liken MeThat I would be his equal? says the Holy One.26 Lift up your eyes on highAnd see who has created these stars,The One who leads forth their host by number,He calls them all by name;Because of the greatness of His might and the [y]strength of His power,Not one of them is missing.cont

cont Isaiah 4027 Why do you say, O Jacob, and assert, O Israel,My way is hidden from the Lord,And the justice due me [z]escapes the notice of my God?28 Do you not know? Have you not heard?The Everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earthDoes not become weary or tired.His understanding is inscrutable.29 He gives strength to the weary,And to him who lacks might He increases power.30 Though youths grow weary and tired,And vigorous young men stumble badly,31 Yet those who [aa]wait for the LordWill gain new strength;They will [ab]mount up with [ac]wings like eagles,They will run and not get tired,They will walk and not become weary.

<quoted text>What is wrong with these people????Jesus is THE CENTER of our Daily Mass.We can never love Mary more then Jesus does!We honor Jesus' Mother as God wanted.Honor your Father and Mother.Something about Blessed Mary.By Jon JakoblichThere are some that say that the Bible really says very little about Mary. However, that is quite contrary to the truth. There are actually a lot of references to Our Lady. For some of these references, you have to do a little bit of digging.Lets start at the beginning of the Bible. She is first mentioned in Genesis 3:15, as the Woman whose offspring (Jesus) will crush the head of the serpent (Satan).Genesis 3:15:I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel.We see her, again, in a prophecy in the book of Isaiah.Isaiah 7:14:Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.Luke 1:28:Hail Mary, Full of Grace, the Lord is with thee! Blessed art thou among women!This translation is very familiar to Catholics and the Bible, but lets take a look at how other translations read Luke 1:28.KJV: Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.RSV:Hail, O favored one, the Lord is with you!NIV:Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.Luke 1:29:But she was greatly troubled at the saying, and considered in her mind what sort of greeting this might be.What else does the Bible say about Mary?It tells us that she is the mother of God in no uncertain terms.Matthew 1:20:But as he considered this, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying,Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.Matthew 2:11 and going into the house they saw the child with Mary his mother, and they felldown and worshiped him. Then, opening their treasures, they offered him gifts, gold and frankincense and myrrh.Obviously if you are already a Christian then you know that this worship is not in vain since we are all taught that Mary was the mother of Jesus.And here is another Catholic favorite:Luke 1:41-43:And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit and she exclaimed with a loud cry,BLESSED ARE YOU AMONG WOMEN, AND BLESSED IS THE FRUIT OF YOUR WOMB!![emphasis added] And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?Now, if Mary is just another woman, why would Elizabeth be in awe that she was granted a visit from the mother of my lord? It just doesnt make sense that if Mary is any old person and not to be revered in some way that she is treated with such respect and has many honors bestowed upon her such as being full of grace and the other examples given.The Bible shows us that Mary was the perfect example of obedience and humility.Luke 1:38:And Mary said,Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word. And the angel departed from her.It tells us how Mary meditated on all of Gods words and actions.Luke 2:19:But Mary kept all these things, pondering them in her heart.It tells us that Jesus was obedient to her.Luke 2:51:And he went down with them and came to Nazareth, and was obedient to them.First Miracle by a word from Blessed Mother...John 2:3-10:There's more but had to snip for space.

If you preach that you know truth because you read what you believe are words from a holy book ... I will never trust you ... because I have been deceived by well-meaning people who preached lies while being absolutely certain that they were preaching truth.

When you are certain the you know what is beyond human ability TO know ... without even being aware ... you become a liar.

I left religion (in part) because I realized my own judgment was faulty, and that I was unable to explain what was beyond my ability TO explain.

<quoted text>You only go back and seek what you presuppose as "keys"(seems a great mystery), just as your "authority" has here. If you look deeper into the past, you may find the "keys" Jesus was referencing in the ancient Kingdom.

<quoted text>Think about it like this:If you were to give something to a king, would it be wiser to hand it to him yourself, in , say a paper bag with your dirty fingers, or would it be wiser to give it to his queen who would place it on a beautiful platter and present it to him herself graciously?If you were king, which would you prefer?If the thing presented were a request or a gift, which one would you recieve more pleasantly and with a more favorable disposition?And also:If you were a king, would you be well pleased if the people in your court recognized and honored your queen? Or would you want to hog up all the honor to yourself and encourage the people to treat your queen like any other ordinary woman?

I would want it in person(the horses mouth). I want to look in the eyes, and see their body movements of any bearer of gift or requestor of favor. That way there is no misunderstanding of intent nor message.

There was not one word on earth written by a supposed man named Jesus. No signature on any paper anywhere. No body in a casket ... nothing but invisibility.

Observe the stories written about Santa Claus, and you will see how easy it is to make a fictional character real in the minds of those who want to believe the character is real.

If you open your mind to new ideas, you will see that you have been fooled.

I left religion when I realized that not only had I been fooled by others ... but that I had been willing and eager to fool my self simply because of the thrill that came my way when I thought of having an all-powerful god on which I could "personally" rely.

Once you understand the whole world is deceived that is a really good place to start rev 12/9

And every mind interpenetrates the bible in their own way.right or wrong as does the pope and every priest or preacher now did they not most all think Yahshua was a nut because of what he taught.He taught the law........

Understand this understanding only comes from the reverence of the creator Yahweh not a man made god seems i have been blaming you sheeple for worshiping a god i was wrong because you have been taught that from a child and you know no better and for that I am sorry.

but In every concordance it does say the words lord and god was added to his name so man did change his name so please help me to understand how you feel about this...

who="Clay"Marian doctrine is complicated..You first and foremost have to understand that she bore Jesus Christ in her womb. Jesus is God made manifest.From the Bible, you have to understand that God and sin can not procreate to form the perfect manifestation of Himself. Jesus Christ.It just would not make sense in any simple modern DNA analogy if one of the subjects was God!!From there, all other Marian Doctrine falls into place and makes perfect sense.And the powerful, supernatural Marian Apparitions of the past couple centuries add credence to this. God used her once before to bring Christ unto the people and he's using her again..**********Mary did not 'mother' God. She mothered the physical/flesh body that He inhabited.KayMarie

So are you saying that Jesus' soul/spirit was seperate from His body? At what point did they reunite?

<quoted text>... and where in the Bible does it say the keys that Christ gave Peter is the Gospel??

Go look it up Clay you Catholic's are a bunch of lazy people.We have shown you a number of time the truth of the gospel Jesus preached yet you call us lairs.You say you gave us the Holy Scriptures but persecute us for hold true to its teachings.You are nothing but a brain washed individual holding on to traditions taught belong to the catholic church.{Not The Teachings About The Kingdom Of God.}The traditions taught in the Bible was in regards to the wedding between a Husband and His Wife, and how Jesus used it to explain the church as the Bride of Christ 'HIS HOLY PURE RIGHTIOUS CHURCH' JESUS IS THE BRIDEGROOM AND THE CHURCH IS THE BRIDE.WHEN JESUS COMES BACK HE IS COMING FOR A PURE HOLY CHURCH. WHO MASTER IS THE KING OF KINGS AND THE LORD OF LORDS.THAT LEAVES THE CATHOLIC CHURCH OUT IN THE DARK.YOUR CHURCH WORSHIP MANY god's AND A goddess, the statue you bow to and pray is not Mary the Mother of Jesus . Go read the Bible yourself you lazy man. You expect everyone to be responsible for your salvation they aren't you are.

<quoted text>There was not one word on earth written by a supposed man named Jesus. No signature on any paper anywhere. No body in a casket ... nothing but invisibility.Observe the stories written about Santa Claus, and you will see how easy it is to make a fictional character real in the minds of those who want to believe the character is real.If you open your mind to new ideas, you will see that you have been fooled.I left religion when I realized that not only had I been fooled by others ... but that I had been willing and eager to fool my self simply because of the thrill that came my way when I thought of having an all-powerful god on which I could "personally" rely.

for one his name was saint nick and he was in fact a child molester.I can see why you left religion but oh mighty wise man tell me who Is Yahweh and do you believe in the dead sea scrolls.and do you believe in anything......did something put s here or are you descendant of a monkey.the whole evolution thing.

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