not to destroy theworld'senvironment, whichthey will do if other things being equal. and so we want to work with them on avoiding environmental just destruction. we want them to continue bringing people from rural poverty to sort of urban working classness, which is what they've been doing. we want them to grow up in both international and domestic ways. grow up internationally in having a foreign policy that's not just whatever's good for them commercially, which is what their foreign policy is now. and to say, "okay, you have to play a role in iran and syria or whatever, being responsible." domestically, we want them to gain confidence so they don't have to have their foot on their people's neck. most of the time in china you don't know the government's around. just kind of a sort of state of chaos -- >> really? >> and, yeah. >> i mean, not like russia, the soviet union -- >> oh, it's -- >> not that blanket -- >> entirely different. it's most of the time the areas the government cares about, the internet, democratic protest or whatever, taiwan, tibet, they're all over. when it doesn't inv