tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post2782340214762237757..comments2016-12-09T19:16:01.287-06:00Comments on Althouse: "In numerous phone interviews beginning in April, Thomas initially told The Post, in hushed tones, that Erwin was responsible for the crimes."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger73125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-6206350368178190522012-11-13T00:03:09.367-06:002012-11-13T00:03:09.367-06:00Well, it&#39;s true the Republican Party brand ha...Well, it&#39;s true the Republican Party brand has become deeply linked to rape. And that&#39;s because of the bizarre comments on rape from multiple Republican men this year and in years past. Not just two Senators. <br /><br />Republicans see rape as suspect and the raped as suspect. They think it&#39;s a cover or excuse to have an abortion, because they&#39;re pro-pregnancy. So they say these dumb things trying to explain themselves. <br /><br />It&#39;s not a slip of a tongue. It&#39;s a wide pattern that reveals warped thinking in the conservative hive mind. <br /><br />And, we can add to that sorry list, this post from Althouse, who now thinks any mention of rape is an assault on the Republican Party.AlphaLiberalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08711124490821422066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39007658724661014322012-11-12T18:41:05.307-06:002012-11-12T18:41:05.307-06:00Please, please, please....get over it. It&#39;s do...Please, please, please....get over it. It&#39;s done. And the sky is not falling, nor are you going to be scooped up UN stormtroopers to be taken to re-education camps. The sun came up the next day, the world didn&#39;t end. Pick yourself up and start thinking about what&#39;s next. Everything will be ok.axon neuronhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09641320438649704576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1867410026207960522012-11-12T14:43:02.955-06:002012-11-12T14:43:02.955-06:00Wow that IS strange! Must be the Illuminati again...Wow that IS strange! Must be the Illuminati again.Arcturushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15465788205525639425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82174406348248467382012-11-12T12:35:32.367-06:002012-11-12T12:35:32.367-06:00You are so damned stupid that you should tell me p...You are so damned stupid that you should tell me people that you are a drunk so you don&#39;t look so damned stupid.salvagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01101734006944992476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44351070607364612822012-11-12T08:16:24.513-06:002012-11-12T08:16:24.513-06:00Why does a DC police officer give his son a pseudo...Why does a DC police officer give his son a pseudo Islamic name (Hajj-Malik) that honors Malcolm X? I know, it was 1971, but still. Just asking?DCShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03125613995070496696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-91496041732705725352012-11-12T03:00:18.280-06:002012-11-12T03:00:18.280-06:00To me, it relates to the “broken windows” theory o...<i> To me, it relates to the “broken windows” theory of crime prevention: The petty criminal — the burglar, the thief, the minor dope dealer — is potentially capable of serious crime. </i><br /><br />Everyone&#39;s potentially capable of crime. The answer to these issues is to make the serious crimes very painful. Commit first degree murder, off with their heads, and all that.<br /><br />I really don&#39;t understand Liberals. The whole compassion thing has its roots in Christianity. Yet, they claim it&#39;s all &quot;Hocus-Pocus.&quot; You don&#39;t want crime? Make crime miserable.<br /><br />You want people to work? Make welfare uncomfortable.<br /><br />Etc. There isn&#39;t anything wrong with it.Dantehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07393170116669470751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34933619225284401452012-11-11T20:29:24.614-06:002012-11-11T20:29:24.614-06:00I don&#39;t think the opinionator understands the ...I don&#39;t think the opinionator understands the broken window fallacy.<br /><br />If the broken window means the owner has to buy a window pane, at the local hardware store, and the laborer to install it, then there is economic benefit to this activity.<br /><br />So the serial rapist is stimulating the economy?! Keeping the SANE nurses fully utilized, extra billables at the hospital, giving another case to law enforcement for their stats, hiring a therapist, taking a self defense class, buying a gun, taking the CCW permit class, etc. All kinds of economic stimulation going on. Therefore, rape is good.<br /><br />That&#39;s the broken windows fallacy.kentuckylizhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08110491371985845560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-37830319979157646782012-11-11T20:18:21.344-06:002012-11-11T20:18:21.344-06:00jr565: Your arguments are fine by me.
That&#39;s ...jr565: Your arguments are fine by me.<br /><br />That&#39;s right, to a point, and I think it&#39;s quite a bit of time after the blastocyst stage, it&#39;s not human life.<br /><br />To me, there isn&#39;t much difference between a woman who takes birth control, a woman who doesn&#39;t want to have a child but bets pregnant, a woman who aborts because the fetus is deforemed, or a woman who takes birth control (birth control aborts blastocysts: I was surprised to find all birth control contains anti-attach drugs).<br /><br />I don&#39;t think women should feel in the least bit guilty or sad, except in the event the child they are aborting is the child of some deeply religious man who believes the thing is human and disagrees with the decision to abort.<br /><br />To some point. I don&#39;t know when the cells become life, but nor do I think anyone else does. Because there are mysteries in life left, like what is consciousness, that magical substance.Dantehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07393170116669470751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-4598339559142025212012-11-11T19:22:28.214-06:002012-11-11T19:22:28.214-06:00Dante wrote:
Abortion doesn&#39;t solve rape
Let...Dante wrote:<br /><br />Abortion doesn&#39;t solve rape<br /><br />Let&#39;s say that a blasticist is no more alive than a piece of wood. I realize you probably disagree with that, but consider it for the moment.<br /><br> I wasn&#39;t arguing that there shouldn&#39;t be exceptions for rape and Incest. I was simply arguing the point of why you might say there shouldn&#39;t be an exception in the case of rape and incest. I see the point, and agree that despite it coming from a bad situation is still innocent.<br />. <br /><i>Forcing a woman to have a child from rape is pretty bad. The woman may well resent the child for the rest of her life, especially if she doesn&#39;t have your world view. Furthermore, the child may get all screwed up too.<br /><br />How about get rid of the thing before it becomes a person, if the woman wants to.</i><br />I think it really depends on whether you think it&#39;s simply a blasocyst or more than that (and I guess if you are defining it that way we are only talking about abortions at the very early stage of the pregnancy?). But aren&#39;t you simp,y arguing the default pro choice position, irrespective whether its a question of rape or incest?<br />From that perspective, forcing a woman to have a child that she doesn&#39;t want (even if she isn&#39;t raped) would be pretty bad. The mother might resent the child. Further the child may get screwed up too. How about get rid of the thing before it becomes a person? It&#39;s the same exact argument.jr565http://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70972257248456365132012-11-11T18:54:46.538-06:002012-11-11T18:54:46.538-06:00I have to disagree with McCain. Nothing breeds con...I have to disagree with McCain. Nothing breeds contempt for the law like pointless regulations and vigorous prosecution of victimless crimes.<br /><br />When police focus on arresting people for &quot;crimes&quot; that harm nobody, it is easy to lose sight of the fact that police are important and laws matter.Revenanthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47621167781201191002012-11-11T18:50:05.191-06:002012-11-11T18:50:05.191-06:00I respect you for a civil response jr565. You coul...I respect you for a civil response jr565. You could have answered me ugly and you didn&#39;t, you stuck to your game plan of defending the right on the attacks made against them. <br /><br />I don&#39;t know that I agree with you, I have to think about it and break it down more, but I wish we could make more arguments defending our positions that way. phxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10199279662390554312012-11-11T18:48:47.627-06:002012-11-11T18:48:47.627-06:00Abortion doesn&#39;t solve rape
Let&#39;s say tha...<i>Abortion doesn&#39;t solve rape</i><br /><br />Let&#39;s say that a blasticist is no more alive than a piece of wood. I realize you probably disagree with that, but consider it for the moment.<br /><br />Forcing a woman to have a child from rape is pretty bad. The woman may well resent the child for the rest of her life, especially if she doesn&#39;t have your world view. Furthermore, the child may get all screwed up too.<br /><br />How about get rid of the thing before it becomes a person, if the woman wants to.Dantehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07393170116669470751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49118467258023921352012-11-11T18:41:11.825-06:002012-11-11T18:41:11.825-06:00If we say, a baby is still innocent whether the mo...If we say, a baby is still innocent whether the mother is inseminated against her will or in a loving relationship does that mean we are saying we condone rape? And that only rapists would feel this way? <br />A mother might not have qualms about killing her baby even if she is the victim of rape? A mother might not keep her baby even though she&#39;s the victim of a rape? ONLY a rapist will feel this way? jr565http://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-75683630422394112172012-11-11T18:39:13.843-06:002012-11-11T18:39:13.843-06:00phx wrote:
Where again is the woman in all this?
...phx wrote:<br />Where again is the woman in all this? <br /><br> It&#39;s a separate question than what I was referring to. THe only point being, whatever the reason behind why or how a woman is inseminated, a baby will still develop the same way in her womb.<br />THe point was in refernce to this point from Ritmo:<br /> The point is one of whether rape should be a &quot;legitimate&quot; (you guys seem to like that word) way of passing along one&#39;s traits, and perpetuating them in the collective human genome. I say no. Rapists, OTOH, might have a different view, though. <br /><br> Which SEEMS to be suggesting that republicans are suggesting that rape is a legitmate means of insemination, i.e we are condoning rapes. jr565http://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5745818190532328162012-11-11T18:39:03.311-06:002012-11-11T18:39:03.311-06:00WAPO is getting to be pathetic. Almost as pathetic...WAPO is getting to be pathetic. Almost as pathetic as the NYT.PETER V. BELLAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04209902525167395224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78669700778152024902012-11-11T18:20:15.238-06:002012-11-11T18:20:15.238-06:00THe act of rape determines how the woman is insemi...<i>THe act of rape determines how the woman is inseminated. But the process of development will occur the same whether the woman was raped or not raped. So,suggesting that somehow if se say a baby who is developing is the equivalent shouldn&#39;t be aborted it&#39;s not equivalent to saying rape is somehow legitimate. That&#39;s deeply offensive.</i><br /><br />Where again is the woman in all this? phxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28911925601281433162012-11-11T18:18:57.079-06:002012-11-11T18:18:57.079-06:00&quot;I see that derp face or the rage face in my ... &quot;I see that derp face or the rage face in my mind every time I read comments from the resident left.<br /><br />It&#39;s a small mental trick that makes me smile.&quot;<br /><br />Funny, wyo sis! The same thing happens to me, but when I read Chip Ahoy!<br /><br />He&#39;s become Antoine De Saint-Exupery&#39;s &quot;The Little Prince&quot; to my mind&#39;s eye. I imagine him in sweet, watercolor illustrations as he heads out for his undercover serf experiences so that the rest of us can just wait right here for him to come back and tell us what we should have known all along.Pennyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02094488084214911115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15690292582118167912012-11-11T18:13:44.849-06:002012-11-11T18:13:44.849-06:00THe act of rape determines how the woman is insemi...THe act of rape determines how the woman is inseminated. But the process of development will occur the same whether the woman was raped or not raped. So,suggesting that somehow if se say a baby who is developing is the equivalent shouldn&#39;t be aborted it&#39;s not equivalent to saying rape is somehow legitimate. That&#39;s deeply offensive. <br />jr565http://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49433384540164622412012-11-11T18:06:00.502-06:002012-11-11T18:06:00.502-06:00That&#39;s what&#39;s so freaky about people pinin...<i>That&#39;s what&#39;s so freaky about people pining for the past using terms like &quot;legitimate rape&quot;. </i><br /><br />Why do you continue on with this crap, Ritmo? It&#39;s completely offensive. You know, it the Republican party knows it, everyone knows it.<br /><br />My god, people like you make me sick. Yeah, we know Democrats wanted to keep Blacks enslaved. That&#39;s why Lincoln had to make a new party, the Republican party, to put a stop to it.<br /><br />Tell me Ritmo, when did you realize your deep seated racism, and your need to associate with such a racist party?Dantehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07393170116669470751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30791603552769041742012-11-11T18:05:51.665-06:002012-11-11T18:05:51.665-06:00So tell me, Ritmo, when you take a crap in the out...<i>So tell me, Ritmo, when you take a crap in the outdoors along with your OWS brethren, do you wipe with your shirt or your hand?</i><br /><br />The election didn&#39;t keep all of you down. Some of you are as classy as ever. phxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16157753187124783062012-11-11T17:58:26.140-06:002012-11-11T17:58:26.140-06:00I hate to put this into simplistic terms for you b...I hate to put this into simplistic terms for you but I&#39;m not sure if you&#39;re capable of understanding otherwise. <br />Abortion doesn&#39;t solve rape. Two wrongs don&#39;t make a right. Having an abortion will not unrape a woman. Saying that the child is still the same whether it is conceived by rape, or by loving parents or by donated sperm does not mean that therefore rape is legitimate. <br />Rape is wrong because its an attack on the body of an innocent person. Abortion is no different. Should a rape victim be able to find someone random person and murder them because she was raped? Or should you be put in jail and executed because your father is guilty of a crime? <br /><br />Fundamentally where is the difference? I&#39;m not talking about how a zygote is a equivalent to a fully grown human I&#39;m talking principally. abortion simply transforms the victim into the victimizer.<br /> jr565http://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57725441589339450402012-11-11T17:50:48.974-06:002012-11-11T17:50:48.974-06:00Except for the &quot;feeling&quot; of SAVE THE RAP...<i>Except for the &quot;feeling&quot; of SAVE THE RAPE-BABIES!!! We are happy to leave that &quot;sentiment&quot; to you, and appreciate the results it got you.</i><br /><br />Cool, we can ascribe the attributes of a tiny minority of the group to the whole group.<br /><br />So tell me, Ritmo, when you take a crap in the outdoors along with your OWS brethren, do you wipe with your shirt or your hand? Inquiring minds want to know.Dantehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07393170116669470751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-53092095018568905072012-11-11T17:40:00.666-06:002012-11-11T17:40:00.666-06:00I know that abortion is an issue with plenty of pe...I know that abortion is an issue with plenty of people at polar ends of the spectrum, but I think many more folks are in a mushy middle. I understand the theological reasoning of Mourdock that the baby is innocent, but I would find it infuriating if my daughter was raped and she was forced to carry the baby to term against her will. But I consider myself pro-life in that I would never want my partner or my daughters to abort a baby for the sake of convenience. And I really cannot see any justification for purely optional abortions after the first trimester. <br /><br />Given that background, in my opinion for the GOP to have a long term future where 53% of voters are women, the party as a whole must agree to certain exceptions for abortion in the platform (the Clintonian &quot;Safe, Legal and Rare&quot;), and shun anyone who is running for a major state or federal level office that voices the &quot;No abortion without exceptions&quot; position. For those GOP voters who say they will not support the GOP if that is a stated party position, I say don&#39;t let the door hit you on the way out. Like having a bunch of Dems in charge of things is going to advance the pro-life position in this country. <br /><br />The GOP lost at least 3 senate races and possibly the Presidency due to Akin and Mourdock. The Dems who won those races will not be voting to protect unborn babies under any circumstance. <br /><br />The MSM, seeing the devastation wreaked upon Akin and Mourdock for their statements, will be pounding future candidates with similar questions hoping to TKO them out of the gate and tar the rest of the GOP.<br />sane_voterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08122061750041663802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9389605025734212542012-11-11T17:35:28.490-06:002012-11-11T17:35:28.490-06:00I&#39;m sure that if Whoopie Goldberg ran for publ...I&#39;m sure that if Whoopie Goldberg ran for public office of any sort, then her comments, to whatever degree anyone is really interested in them, would then undergo the scrutiny they&#39;d deserve.O Ritmo Segundohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02059991118123693141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20347350094899061902012-11-11T17:30:43.543-06:002012-11-11T17:30:43.543-06:00If Brony is a legitimate topic here, and I assume ...If Brony is a legitimate topic here, and I assume it is since the arbiter of all things brought it up, can I mention how neatly some commenters here fall into the rage comic category? I see that derp face or the rage face in my mind every time I read comments from the resident left.<br /><br />It&#39;s a small mental trick that makes me smile.<br />wyo sishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12418832032663751497noreply@blogger.com