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why not? Using the spanish divas again as an example. thats where they started. in the league. You don't go into the UCL to experiment. You need to bring it or you'll be brushed aside. thats what i think anyway.

We'll fucking see if we meet them again, if we can step up and beat them. Heard all this bollox before, the last final. I'm not obsessed by the champions league, so I'm happy enough pulling away from the dippers in league titles. To expect another European cup final, would be too much. But, we'll see how we progress in this years competition. They might get knocked out, or we could fall. Who knows?

I would take offence to being called an idiot or wierdo.....I much prefer being called an Irregular Thinker.
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I reckon SAF's warning to our senior defenders is not really a serious warning but more a confidence boost to the likes of Jones,Smalling, Fabio, Evans etc that they will get regular games and be given every opportunity to prove themselves.

We all know a fit Rio or Vida will get priority over the young un's in the big games but look at Smalling last year the lad played all the CL games up to the quarter finals i think. He also got around 30 appearance out of 52? Also O'shea had a surge of games in which Rafa was dropped for majority of 2nd half of the season games. SAF's rotation ability will guarantee game time for all of our 8 defenders.

The advantage of having 8 is that everybody can play in the space of 2 games, plus 2 players for each postion, however in past years we've had 10 and struggled for numbers like in 2009-10 (fulham, wolfsburg) and in 2007 (Milan double header) when we was forced to played carrick in centre back, Hargo/fletch at Right back & Giggs and Valencia at right back recently

you sound riled up, but you gotta admit De Rossi is a fine players. Sort of like saying Giggs ain't worth shit cos he was in iniesta pocket in wembley. Thing most don't understand is that its a team effort, one player can add to a squad but at the end of the day its not ultimately down to that one player. The group is the most important factor. I had a theme during the summer. Play the United game the best possible way and we'll beat anyone

I do not mind most commentators but John Champion really gets under my skin. Whenever United concede he goes ballistic yet when we score he barely manages to break a breath. His obvious bias sickens me....

now you're being unreasonable. fair one if you don't like him, but go watch the game again and him along with alonso and someone else can't remember held their own against what everyone calls the best midfield and team in the world at the camp nou too. Add to that it wasn't a defensive game, most teams crack after conceding against Barcelona, they did well , rallied round and played some good stuff

@King Eric: Re: Ozil and De Rossi, you have your views, I have mine - let's just agree to disagree, shall we? :)
Re: Masceranho/Alonso, I used their names as examples of what I consider "world class", in their positons - they are not what we need

75 minutes aint bad. not a lot of footballers can last the whole 90. especially when you're being asked to go chasing for the ball and set up teammates all the while not losing possession of the ball. Never easy that

jeez who called essien world class... i'd have park with 2 lungs instead of him..
looking imposing and monsterlike doesn't make a good defensive mid..
he was great two years ago.. now he's more of an ogre with no brains ( which is a given since he's playing for chelsea)
positional sense is important.. else lee catermole would be the best defensive mid...
we don't need beasts... we need players with brains who can take the ball off an opponent.. without going down.. that does help in starting an attack...
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@ jeet: you're right about the mid.. but almost every united teal has always been more than the sum of their parts...
also i still think that arsenal are gonna do really well this season..
maybe its just my desire to see a proper footballing rival for us.. and not city or chelsea,, who'd bid even for arsene's grandmother if she could kick the ball well

Commentators getting under the skin,fucking Ian Darke slimly little cunt looks like a pediphile and he just drones on with useless pieces of knowledge and repeats the same things every game,i have to turn the sound down.
Then on another feed i get some colour commentator sounds like a Eric Idle character emphasises one word every sentence don't know his name definitly a southerner fucking guy drives me mental.

@cedars : i have a feeling fergie might just have a surprise for us.. whether its promoting one more youth player or buying on the last day i donno... but im sure there's more to come
oh btw has anyone noticed we haven't taken the team foto and the new signings haven't been unveiled yet.. ?
seems kinda fishy.. also seems like fergie's waiting on something

The likes of Yaya Toure, Anelka, Mesut Ozil, Samir Nasri, Ribery, Benzema, Freddy Kanoute, Chamakh, Fellaini and Sami Khedira are muslim footballers so they will not be performing to their potential because some maybe fasting because it is the month of Ramadan.

Ozil is like zidane against lesser sides and is out of his depth against Barca's trio but that is excusable. I think if Ozil made the right decision and joined us he would have been bulked up, consistant and would have had better fitness. He also would have been moulded over time to play the giggs role to a scholesey role. Like many players (Benzema,Mikel, Essien, M.Diarra, Duff, Ramsey,Silva etc) it is sooner rather than much later proven to be their loss not to join the great club and manager in world football.

:lol: Fuck you chamberlain and Ramsey - They chose london over manchester and not arsenal over United, if it was a footballing decision, there is only one realistic option like Phil Jones proved.

Jello all of RoM, now that the season has started and to see the 3 new lads and the ones back from loan. I have had time for the CL wound to heal, still a scar mind you. Barca at first I wanted players to beat them. As time has pasted and reality has set in anyone who makes the 1st team has to be an awesome player. SAF has found an approach to fit these new slick ass footballers with a Man Utd heart. From Becks and Ruud, to CR7 and Rooney, to Berba and Rooney, now to Rooney and Lil Pea. Man Utd are one of the 3 best in the world this year and can beat anyone. And may slip up?! FUCK! And have to play BM and Realmadne$$?
With this side that has been assembled the youth putting pressure/ competition at all spots is the key to a winning team on any level in any team sport. You play like you practice, when getting ready for another team the 2nd team plays the opponent and they all want your job. The gaffer sees this.

Actually what happened was KR rudely stated an opinion and instructed us not to argue.

" there is NO CHANCE we beat Barca without a world class midfielder and you all know it’s true or your’re just lying if you don’t ... Don’t try to come on here and deny it "

When I listed some of our midfielders, deliberately leaving out Nani, KR stated:

"We have one world class midfielder – Nani"

Therefore, KR is effectively stating that we have " a world class midfielder " and so presumably we don't need to get another one, as we have the 'one' that he 'knows' is required. Of course, that's not what he meant, he believes that we must get another one. It's a pity that he spoke incorrectly and rudely told us we are "liars" and "wrong" and "idiots" for disagreeing. It makes him look like a rude cunt. Perhaps he is a rude cunt, perhaps he isn't a rude cunt. Perhaps he just behaves like a rude cunt in order to get attention.

I think that KR might not be a rude cunt, and was just behaving in a cunting fashion as a wind-up. But hey, what do I know? KR says I'm an idiot, so maybe he wasn't acting, just being.

I'd like to have KR as a buddy, but I realise that's probably idiotic, and I'm probably lying.
Thanks anyway KR, for teaching me what an idiotic liar I am. Or am I a lying idiot?

smartalex, you have a personal problem against me but that's fine i'm not here to have digs i just think what you posted was idiotic so nothing personal. There are probably millions like myself who agree we need someone like a Sneijder.

No offence mate but you know nothing about football if you're calling Park, Fletcher and Carrick world class.

Nani is world class but he is WINGER not a CENTRAL MIDFIELDER, do you understand that or no?

You called us liars if we don't agree with you, yet now you are lying.

It is not true to say that I "have a personal problem against" you. You were the one stating an opinion that if anyone disagreed with they were lying.

You call me an idiot and us a liar.

You are wrong. You are a liar. You are a wum.

Don't twist what was said. This is how you started the debate:

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It’s irrelevant who we get in the champions league because chances are we make the semis with ease but let me tell you this there is NO CHANCE we beat Barca without a world class midfielder and you all know it’s true or your’re just lying if you don’t.

Face it a top class midfielder is the difference between us just giving it a go against Barca or winning, heck even Madrid look powerful now.

Don’t try to come on here and deny it because the depth in our midfield will probably get us the title but not the top trophy in Europe.
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Haha just because you don't get everyone pandering to your belief that our midfield is world class and someone dares to say otherwise you throw a hissy fit and call them a wum. You are nothing to me i'll still be there home and away supporting the lads but all i was doing was merely making an opinion of which every single football fan in the world has.

I still support the likes of Carrick and Fletcher even though i don't think they are as good as what we have had in the past because i'm a true supporter. So keep going on and on about how i'm here to wind up if it makes you happy in your little mind.

You made a controversial statement and rudely warned and labelled anyone for disagreeing.

So i made a comment that recognised your wind up.
Your immature reaction then continued your rudeness.
Even now you carry on being rude. You have no knowledge of my thoughts on 'world-class players' as you denied anyone the opportunity to disagree with you by saying "Don’t try to come on here and deny it " and "you all know it’s true or your’re just lying if you don’t."

Everything i said was true about our midfield whether you like to admit it or not. I was there in Moscow, Rome and Wembley. How many more times do we have to be taught a lesson by Barca before we realise that deadwood like Giggs and Carrick won't win us the CL against world class opposition.

I would like very much to have that discussion with you. It would have to start at the beginning, wouldn't take long, and would absolutely require you to permit my views to be offered without your pre-judgement or slander. Perhaps you could now accept here that by declaring anyone that disagrees to be a liar, before they have even commented, you destroyed any and all creditability in your view.