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The_Judge37 Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
Only on this blog do people bag on the GM for signing the wrong third-string QB…
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To be fair, only on this blog would people hoist Reggie on their shoulders for signing Seneca Wallace
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What are you talking about, beloved? Reggie just replaced Carson Palmer AND DHB with one stroke of his pen. At least at 1/15th of the cost.

You ever see the play where Super Sen takes the snap, airs the ball 60 yards down the field, then makes the diving one hand catch in the end zone?

Raiders are back, folks.

alex7

Trading down twice means you go from a 50-50 Pro Bowl player to a 20% chance at a Pro Bowl player.

WHY on earth would you do that?

To pick up extra 2nd and 3rd round picks that hit at about 12% chance???

Silly.

Football Coach

This play at 1:05 in this tape signifies why Ziggy is a legit top 8 pick at worst, despite his lack of history in the game. Not many guys can physically do this on a football field. It is directly linked to the play.

Different positions require different skillsets, and different skillsets are required for certain positions in college than in pros.
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Bottom line, does athleticism out-weigh production. At any level. Not anymore.

RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

If we trade down.. TAVON AUSTIN ..or OGLETREE.. even Jones.. wonder where he will go

Marks hair

Its 80 degrees here and frozen in green bay… shìtheads

SilverLining20

SnBG Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
The Beeech Diggity Dawg Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:22 pm
Barfman the Genital, you’re gonna be really sad when the Raiders move to LA and the Beeeech Diggity is sitting front and center in his tricked out luxury box

Why do you love Oakland so much anyway?

All your teams totally blow and the city smells like a freshly soiled Krappy diaper

Plus I’ve macked on most of your hottest women and they’re still 5 notches below the ugliest LA chick I’ve allowed to pleasure the Lawg

Time to step it up, Barfman, shout out to Kris Kross
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Yep, lets move back to smogville and sit in traffic all day.
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Traffic is something nobody in LA can argue about. Sht is the worst.

PurpleDrank81

All the people out here who are saying production doesnt matter are also the people who said Russel Wilson was to short and not Athletic enough.

The_Judge37

alex7 Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:30 pm
Trading down twice means you go from a 50-50 Pro Bowl player to a 20% chance at a Pro Bowl player.

If our QB’s going into camp are Flynn, Pryor, and Sen, it is going to be a very interesting battle.

None of these guys are world class QBs. But Flynn and Sen are not bums either. Pryor on the other hand is probably the most athletically gifted QB in the NFL today, but is raw in development.

I’m not confident that we have a hands-down #1 QB right now. Ugly as it sounds, any one of these guys could f#ck around and win the starting job. This one isn’t even about talent. It’s going to be about who wants it more, prepares themselves the most, and works the hardest for the job. This is going to be real interesting.
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But Lefty, in your heart and mind, do you really feel like any of these guys are that much better than one another? I’m hoping all 3 look at this as a chance to be a starter in the NFL, and push the hell out of each other.

Do you think Pryor or Wallace think that Flynn is all that much better than them? Even if he truly is, in both of these grown men minds, do you think THEY believe that? I dont know, man. I think it will be a closer comp than we are imaging right now. But thats a good thing.

All the people out here who are saying production doesnt matter are also the people who said Russel Wilson was to short and not Athletic enough.

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Obviously heard people saying Wilson was too short, but I can’t recall anyone bringing up his athleticism as a weakness.

Wilson and Brees are big time outliers at QB. But they have the head, the heart and the hustle, combined with leadership and throwing accuracy to be great QBs. How many QBs match their HHH and throwing ability? Few.

DJ Johnny

The_Judge37 Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:17 pm
And then cut everyone, so next year we can have $120 Million in Cap space

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dont be silly.. u gotta spend 89 percent of it

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$106 Million to Coye Francise it is then!
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He’s worth more than that. C’mon.

RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

Sheldon Richardson would be nice in a trade back.

I think he is better then Star and FLOYD.

He met with Raiders at combine

J Hill

….even those from LA are more happy than you

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Yeah, that would be great for the Raiders if they could be a part of something like that.

“But Lefty, in your heart and mind, do you really feel like any of these guys are that much better than one another?”

They are all scrubs, backups, not starting material at all. Which is why I think they will trade McFadden. The village has been torched!

The_Judge37

Sure Seneca Wallace sucks, but the most important thing is that he’s willing to come here for bus fare and an unsigned photo of Reggie eating stack of hot cakes.

John David Booty

PurpleDrank81 Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
All the people out here who are saying production doesnt matter are also the people who said Russel Wilson was to short and not Athletic enough.
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Exactly. There has to be a balance between talent and production. When someone is a football player, it shows. When someone knows how to play, it shows.

See a good athlete, try to make him a player. Thats backwards to me.

Find all the guys that show major production, look at tape of them playing, THEN find the guys out of THAT pool with the height, weight, speed. Thats how it should be done.

I admire and respect all athletes, but still, let me see that you know how to play football.

I think Pryor could win the job. Or do I just hope that, lol?
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kaepernick looked like crap at first and anyone would want their qb to have the running threat pryor provides, so if he improves leaps and bounds, why not?

RaidingTexas

John David Booty Says:

See a good athlete, try to make him a player. Thats backwards to me.

Find all the guys that show major production, look at tape of them playing, THEN find the guys out of THAT pool with the height, weight, speed. Thats how it should be done.

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Thinking like a GM should.

RaidingTexas

Rashad Jennings @RashadJennings 16m
Not official ‘yet’ but looks like Oakland may be my new home. #raidernation

RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

Daniel Jeremiah ‏@MoveTheSticks 18h

Finishing up my mock draft…I do have Tavon Austin going in the top 10.

RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

Daniel Jeremiah ‏@MoveTheSticks 8 Apr

I’m anxious to see where Jarvis Jones and Barkevious Mingo get picked. Jones far superior on tape, Mingo far superior in shorts.

RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

Daniel Jeremiah ‏@MoveTheSticks 16h

3 of the most consistent players on tape: C Warmack, Jarvis Jones and Keenan Allen…each guy had poor workout #’s. This is a unique draft!

Marks hair

pryors the only natural leader on the team. Management is praying he improves enough to be a real quarterback. I doubt Seneca will be competing for one of the top two jobs..

J Hill,I do see it that way.I have said this many times even though most don’t agree-Pryor is not ready to be a starting QB in the NFL.He needs at least 1 more year of grooming.I hate to get this started-AGAIN.We aren’t wasting our time on Pryor,the guy has a lot of talent.We are trying to coach him up into being NFL competent.Look at Reggie’s background.Rodgers sat for years.Flynn sat for years.It seems logical,just as looking at the roster,seeing few to zero players at certain positions and believing those positions will be filled with new players.There is a possibility Pryor wins the job but I’d bet it is very slim.

But Lefty, in your heart and mind, do you really feel like any of these guys are that much better than one another? I’m hoping all 3 look at this as a chance to be a starter in the NFL, and push the hell out of each other.

Do you think Pryor or Wallace think that Flynn is all that much better than them? Even if he truly is, in both of these grown men minds, do you think THEY believe that? I dont know, man. I think it will be a closer comp than we are imaging right now. But thats a good thing.
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Pryor and Wallace are competitive they may not think in those terms but Pryor has to be wondering about the reason Wallace is here. There’s a Holmgren connection with the signing of Wallace. That doesn’t bod to well for Pryors chances of starting any time this year.
Flynn got the bigger contract.
Pryor is a work in progress.
Wallace has don’t fair enough in some games as a backup.

Flynn,,Wallace..Pryor as I see it

alex7

Marks Hair

players later in the draft are just not as good as the players up top. Common sense. Why risk it that you’ll find the 1 in 20 2nd round picks (even if you get two 2nd rounders) that actually balls?

Why run that risk? What’s the upside?

SnBG

Alex7 Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Marks Hair

players later in the draft are just not as good as the players up top. Common sense. Why risk it that you’ll find the 1 in 20 2nd round picks (even if you get two 2nd rounders) that actually balls?

Why run that risk? What’s the upside?
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I agree

SnBG

Lefty12 Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
J Hill,I do see it that way.I have said this many times even though most don’t agree-Pryor is not ready to be a starting QB in the NFL.He needs at least 1 more year of grooming.I hate to get this started-AGAIN.We aren’t wasting our time on Pryor,the guy has a lot of talent.We are trying to coach him up into being NFL competent.Look at Reggie’s background.Rodgers sat for years.Flynn sat for years.It seems logical,just as looking at the roster,seeing few to zero players at certain positions and believing those positions will be filled with new players.There is a possibility Pryor wins the job but I’d bet it is very slim.
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I’m a Pryor fan but I have to agree, Pryor is just not ready.

Marks hair

Its a crap shoot.. especially this yr at the top. I’d rather spread out my money.. trade back

PurpleDrank81 Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
All the people out here who are saying production doesnt matter are also the people who said Russel Wilson was to short and not Athletic enough
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No one said anything about QB.

RaiderFredinDallas

Irjonny Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
Rashad Jennings ‏@RashadJennings 21m
Not official ‘yet’ but looks like Oakland may be my new home. #raidernation
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If it happens. Good move