Comment by jellyman

links this shoulders as 16 strength base stats and also a socket bonus of 3 resilience, this means 5 less strength than here.

Need to check the arena armor vendor inside the game to be sure.

Comment by Luminatore

Does anyone else think that these shoulders have alot more Stamina that would be required by a raiding DPS warrior? If you are dpsing for raids, then you will probably want the Tier 4 shoulders instead. It's bothered my as of late, that the PvP rewards and the Arena rewards have an over abundance of stamina on them. Yes it is Ideal for pvp. But if you are sacrificing strength for stamina in raids/instances for you are making a bad decision. It's even more aggrivating when you think about it in raw DPS terms, some 5mans have shoulders with lots more Strength and Crit/Hit than these, or the new Highwarlord shoulders, it's almost silly. Especially with how long it takes to get any arena or pvp gear.

Comment by Takagor

I recommend getting the gladiator t1 gloves and shoulders, then aiming for the merciless legs/chest/head, for a great 70resi bonus.because, the t1 -> t2 change for the gloves and shoulders are so small, that you shouldn`t worry about "losing stats", 70 resilliance is worth it imo.

Comment by Vashar

The full 5 piece set will cost approximately 65k Honor, 50 AV, 50 AB, and 30 WSG marks.

Comment by Pyroshen

Warriors should also consider these for TANKING. A lot of stam with a possible 24 more with two stars of elune. If you are fine on defense these have nice armor and lots of stam for only a few days of light pvp. Better than bold shoulders IMO and you are guarenteed to get them eventually (no luck).

Don't overlook these prot warriors, i'll be using them until i get the shoulders from karazhan i think.

Comment by MAbans

I don't think the issue is so much about what is better but by the term "better" is meaing which is worth something that is much more valuable than the stats on the item. You're time, it's a feasible item to get that because it's just plain eaiser. now why you seem to get upset about it is beyond me. Not lik anyone is taking it from you..

Comment by warwizard07

Comment by Jarakin

This is part of Arena Season 1 Set (lvl 70) . You can obtain this item from Kezzik the Striker in Netherstorm for 750 or1000Honor Points .For people who can't be bothered looking through Area 52 for him, he is inside the building closest to the flight point, obviously inside the walls.

You can also purchase this item from Karynna in Isle of Quel'Danas with appropriate token . Here is a list where you can obtain them.