an IM chat with an ex about my belief - Atheist Nexus2015-08-02T22:45:14Zhttp://atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/2182797:Topic:87064?feed=yes&xn_auth=no"kevin i am sorry that your l…tag:atheistnexus.org,2008-08-25:2182797:Comment:924922008-08-25T20:38:21.135Zdasdsa das dasdashttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/ChristianSyvertsen
"kevin i am sorry that your life has not gone exactly how you would have liked it"<br />
The usual christian compassion, how I hate it.<br />
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Wow, she managed to do the typical christian compassion-thing at the same time she claimed you had a inferior life experience to her, which of course she meant by you not being a christian. And of course refering to your first name, which is self-explanatory.
"kevin i am sorry that your life has not gone exactly how you would have liked it"<br />
The usual christian compassion, how I hate it.<br />
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Wow, she managed to do the typical christian compassion-thing at the same time she claimed you had a inferior life experience to her, which of course she meant by you not being a christian. And of course refering to your first name, which is self-explanatory. Don't worry about it too much…tag:atheistnexus.org,2008-08-24:2182797:Comment:910582008-08-24T17:19:35.869ZSkylarhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Skylar
Don't worry about it too much. It's a big shock to people when they learn that a friend is not who / what they thought. Some people will accept your beliefs and still like you and others will walk away. Give her some time. She might come around.
Don't worry about it too much. It's a big shock to people when they learn that a friend is not who / what they thought. Some people will accept your beliefs and still like you and others will walk away. Give her some time. She might come around. If she liked you and accepted…tag:atheistnexus.org,2008-08-24:2182797:Comment:908542008-08-24T12:54:19.098ZLeaThttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/LeaT
If she liked you and accepted you enough as a person, it wouldn't happen. I wouldn't consider it a huge loss, obviously you weren't important enough for her in the first case then.
If she liked you and accepted you enough as a person, it wouldn't happen. I wouldn't consider it a huge loss, obviously you weren't important enough for her in the first case then. in catholicism, you never pre…tag:atheistnexus.org,2008-08-23:2182797:Comment:896132008-08-23T14:27:09.592ZSarutobihttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/sarutobi
in catholicism, you never prey god. You pray the saints. Angels have nothing to do with it.
in catholicism, you never prey god. You pray the saints. Angels have nothing to do with it. Many, if not most, believers…tag:atheistnexus.org,2008-08-22:2182797:Comment:889792008-08-22T22:32:38.452ZFabiohttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Fabio
Many, if not most, believers identify with their belief to the point that rejecting the religion or the deity they worship is taken as a personal insult by them, as if you were inevitably rejecting them too. There's really little you can do about it, other than hope she will at some point realise that she's being childish.
Many, if not most, believers identify with their belief to the point that rejecting the religion or the deity they worship is taken as a personal insult by them, as if you were inevitably rejecting them too. There's really little you can do about it, other than hope she will at some point realise that she's being childish. OK well as of today I am goin…tag:atheistnexus.org,2008-08-22:2182797:Comment:886062008-08-22T16:49:50.130ZKevinhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Kevin62
OK well as of today I am going back to totally avoiding the topic of religion... I think I just lost her as a friend. :( why do they get so upset and leave? I'm calm I'm not upset about anything did I offend her?
OK well as of today I am going back to totally avoiding the topic of religion... I think I just lost her as a friend. :( why do they get so upset and leave? I'm calm I'm not upset about anything did I offend her? Well, congratulations and wel…tag:atheistnexus.org,2008-08-21:2182797:Comment:880482008-08-21T21:52:36.802ZFizzyhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Fizzy
Well, congratulations and welcome! Stick around, you'll be breathing fire in no time.
Well, congratulations and welcome! Stick around, you'll be breathing fire in no time. thanks guys for all your inpu…tag:atheistnexus.org,2008-08-21:2182797:Comment:876822008-08-21T15:21:03.187ZKevinhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Kevin62
thanks guys for all your input... like i said before i'm very new to the whole coming out in what i believe, so it's hard for me to build a case against her, but your comments have helped me.<br />
This is why I usually avoid this topic, she only asked because she saw me join the group on facebook, o well i guess the secrets out :)
thanks guys for all your input... like i said before i'm very new to the whole coming out in what i believe, so it's hard for me to build a case against her, but your comments have helped me.<br />
This is why I usually avoid this topic, she only asked because she saw me join the group on facebook, o well i guess the secrets out :) Well, your discussion is mayb…tag:atheistnexus.org,2008-08-21:2182797:Comment:874692008-08-21T08:54:14.371ZLeaThttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/LeaT
Well, your discussion is maybe on a quite low level, sorry for those words. There are many places where you indeed could have challenged her properly and just left her speechless :) I have a feeling neither she nor you actually know a lot about this topic, so no wonder.<br />
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But in reality, there is very little to be said to her which will change her mind. Leave her speechless yes, because she cannot answer the question, but she will not change her mind about it.<br />
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You should first of all take a…
Well, your discussion is maybe on a quite low level, sorry for those words. There are many places where you indeed could have challenged her properly and just left her speechless :) I have a feeling neither she nor you actually know a lot about this topic, so no wonder.<br />
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But in reality, there is very little to be said to her which will change her mind. Leave her speechless yes, because she cannot answer the question, but she will not change her mind about it.<br />
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You should first of all take a clear stance that you for example don't believe in faith and prayers. Explain to her things like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism">Determinism</a>. I think you really need to read upon this topic if it's something you want to discuss more. Like others said, she displays typical circular logic behavior, very common for all theists. I think you got good tips from the others too. Isaac Asimov explained how we…tag:atheistnexus.org,2008-08-21:2182797:Comment:874542008-08-21T07:50:26.023ZAvaricehttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/RagingNaturalist
Isaac Asimov explained how we as humans believe too little in coincidence. Everything that cannot be explained requires the involvement of a sentient being. This is nothing new, but I believe it isn't the right way to view things. I believe in progressive rather than archaic thought whether atheistic or theistic in nature. Your friend seems to only have a grasp on her own unoriginal beliefs and refuses to acknowledge any other. "i am in no position to judge or say that you believe in bullshit i…
Isaac Asimov explained how we as humans believe too little in coincidence. Everything that cannot be explained requires the involvement of a sentient being. This is nothing new, but I believe it isn't the right way to view things. I believe in progressive rather than archaic thought whether atheistic or theistic in nature. Your friend seems to only have a grasp on her own unoriginal beliefs and refuses to acknowledge any other. "i am in no position to judge or say that you believe in bullshit i am only here to live my life and stand by my belief". She could have omitted the majority of that and just said: "you believe in bullshit" because that is what she was really saying, she just tried to dress it up nicely. As an atheist I definitely understand the prejudice towards us by society and even our friends and family. It is useless to try to challenge your friend's beliefs, just as it would be useless for her to challenge yours, so my only recommendation is to find another topic of discussion and avoid discussing belief in god altogether because you will never reach an agreement until she opens her mind to other possibilities which is something that she must do on her own.