There's been some recent confusion with the old spoiler thread, so I'm kicking off a new one for tonight's premiere. This is going to be the one for folks who've read all the books. So anything anybody might want to talk about is in bounds. Suffice to say, if you haven't read the books, you'll probably want to stay out of here until you do...

I'll bump the old spoiler-free thread shortly in case anybody's interested. For future reference the link to that one is here

You guys may be right, but in watching it again, he's not riding an elk like coldhands, but he is dressed in something, and I didn't think the Others that they showed last season ever wore something over their chest, plus the face is different...more human like, and the horse is not as dead looking. I dunno, but would be cool if it is him.

I'm still wondering about Lady Stoneheart. I did read an interview with the actress a while back that had me thinking she would be on there. She certainly didn't say she would or wouldn't be, but the way she said you have to watch and find out made me think she will be in it.

You guys may be right, but in watching it again, he's not riding an elk like coldhands, but he is dressed in something, and I didn't think the Others that they showed last season ever wore something over their chest, plus the face is different...more human like, and the horse is not as dead looking. I dunno, but would be cool if it is him.

I'm still wondering about Lady Stoneheart. I did read an interview with the actress a while back that had me thinking she would be on there. She certainly didn't say she would or wouldn't be, but the way she said you have to watch and find out made me think she will be in it.

I certainly wouldn't be opposed to it being Coldhands. Part of the allure in my mind though is the fact that they weren't sure he was dead for about half the way up and you never saw his face.

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They pretty much ruined the third book by splitting it up into two seasons. The book was so great because so many things happen that completely change the landscape of the story. In the show the entire third season was just a setup for the Red Wedding. Felt like a "filler" season which is sad since it's 10 episodes.. sort of like the entirety of a Feast for Crows which was completely shite

If they're really following Oathkeeper the way it goes in the book, wouldn't that mean that Stoneheart has to be a part of things by season's end? Or maybe introduce her late and leave it for next season.

Oathkeeper might just be Jaime giving Brienne the sword and sending her out on her way to look for Sansa.

In book 3, Lady Stoneheart appears at the very end in the epilogue. They could do that on the show too I suppose, but I think it would make more sense to intro her early this season in order to show Beric finding her and giving her life.

I disagree on ruining book 3 by splitting it, I think that way too much happens in book 3 to really try to squeeze the whole book into one 10 episode season, and it would have ruined it to try to cram it all in. There is still a lot of action to come this season from just the last 1/3 of book 3.