justmebd wrote:I'm not happy about passing up Watkins. I'll take the pick, but this just screams of FO inexperience.

Whatever. Wish I was up in Willoughby right now.

Really? You think us dropping and getting an extra #1 and taking the best corner was a mistake? I think it's easier to criticize them passing Mack there, but I still ultimately think if was a good move.

I think passing up Watkins will haunt us for years. It's all speculation at this point, but that's how I feel in May of 2014.

justmebd wrote:I'm not happy about passing up Watkins. I'll take the pick, but this just screams of FO inexperience.

Whatever. Wish I was up in Willoughby right now.

Really? You think us dropping and getting an extra #1 and taking the best corner was a mistake? I think it's easier to criticize them passing Mack there, but I still ultimately think if was a good move.

I think passing up Watkins will haunt us for years. It's all speculation at this point, but that's how I feel in May of 2014.

Evans was the better WR pick for the Browns, I think.

But apparently Gilbert is the guy they wanted all along. Pettine is Rex Ryan without the foot fetish. He is CB obsessed according to NFL Radio.

I don't need to be patient, they're going to be shit forever. - CDT, discussing my favorite NFL team

bookelly wrote:Well, that was interesting at least. Lee still on the board. Looks like Huston will go with a QB (Carr) and then some defensive help for the skins? Who knows. Lee or Hyde or ILB or G is all I care. We still have a 3rd left for a ILB and the rest for OL IMHO.

World is their oyster in that case.

You have Kouandijo if you want a monstrous T, Lee is still there as your WR option and Su'aFilo if you want/need a G there.

You obviously have your choice of RBs.

After Shazier I'm afraid ILBs are a reach

So, guess it comes down to whether you like Lee more than next guy (Jordan Matthews?) or Hyde/Hill more than next RB.

Not sure where he is on anybody's board, but Jordan Matthews is a stud at WR. Probably nobody outside of Nashville can even name Vanderbilt's QB (or any of their other offensive skill players besides Matthews) but he put up strong numbers against some good defenses that were focused on stopping him first.

A sentiment I was passing along to our friend Hiko after each pick. At least I think I was. Was I?

Any Cleveland fan who lights up such a cigar before Pick 22 (aka as "Quinn-Weeden Ceremonial Dumpster Fire Selection") comes and goes without said QB being chosen? Well, someone shoulda lit Hiko on fire for that rookie move.

I'd say, the results are obviously to be determined. But the execution? Nearly flawless. They had the spots they thought they had to get to for their guys and they got there. Maybe a little lucky (if he pans out) that they thought they had to get to 11 for Manziel and couldn't but he was still there at their next "time to make a move" spot.

I was on the road receiving texts about the draft when the first trade was made. I was furious at first. I loved Watson, Mack and Evans. Great impact guys. I later heard that we also picked up the Bills' 1st rounder next year, I changed my tune. We certainly needed DB help, but I was enamored by those guys at the top of the draft. Looking more at the numbers on Gilbert (lightning speed, kick/punt return ability, etc), I am beginning to feel a little better about that pick.

"The nose of the bulldog has been slanted backwards so that he can breathe without letting go." -- Winston Churchill

YahooFanChicago wrote:I will definitely say this about Farmer's 1st day, he traded down and got huge value for it. He traded-up with limited cost.

This is exactly the opposite we were seeing under the other regimes where our trade-ups cost us a fortune and our trade-downs netted minimum returns. So based on day one of the draft I speculate that he is a much better negotiator than his predessesors.

Yeah, getting Buffalo's #1 next year was crazy good. Bills getting heavy criticism for that deal.

So at what point do the fricking idiots watching the draft in person quit booing every person that comes to the podium? Wouldn't it get boring booing goodell every times he announces a pick. Christ they were booing 70 year old hall of famers that were presenting the 2nd round picks

A sentiment I was passing along to our friend Hiko after each pick. At least I think I was. Was I?

Any Cleveland fan who lights up such a cigar before Pick 22 (aka as "Quinn-Weeden Ceremonial Dumpster Fire Selection") comes and goes without said QB being chosen? Well, someone shoulda lit Hiko on fire for that rookie move.

A sentiment I was passing along to our friend Hiko after each pick. At least I think I was. Was I?

Any Cleveland fan who lights up such a cigar before Pick 22 (aka as "Quinn-Weeden Ceremonial Dumpster Fire Selection") comes and goes without said QB being chosen? Well, someone shoulda lit Hiko on fire for that rookie move.

A sentiment I was passing along to our friend Hiko after each pick. At least I think I was. Was I?

Any Cleveland fan who lights up such a cigar before Pick 22 (aka as "Quinn-Weeden Ceremonial Dumpster Fire Selection") comes and goes without said QB being chosen? Well, someone shoulda lit Hiko on fire for that rookie move.

By that point, I just really wanted to smoke my cigar.

Well, I hope it was worth destroying the team.

Cohiba?

Since 99 I've more than run out of actions that didn't result in team destruction. Even lying prone in bed doesn't seem to work.