and u can get the new one for 55-56K- assuming i can wrangle a 15-20% off MSRP.. then ?

might as well take a Brand NEW One ! which you will drive and maintain pristinely !.

This is a tough situation. Brand new 2018 GX Luxury cheapest is $61k on cars.com link below. If your looking for a luxury model with low miles, example is a 2016 luxury for $30k with 50k miles. Your saving over $30k to buy used! Yes you may have to travel but the savings is worth it in my books. Most of the depreciation happens in the first 3-4 years from my research on the GX 2014+. Just my opinion.

If you want to raise and lower the rear suspension you MUST get the luxury grade. But for offloading it is best to get non-air suspension since it's easier to modify the suspension.

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Originally Posted by bbqsoup

But it wonít be easy to lift. Plus the airbags only work for the rear and under 15mph. Itís more for loading and unloading than for offroading.
Also yes, you can add mts and crawl to all trims.

thanks for the insightful information. but I should have been more specific..
by offroading i didnt mean the whole 9 yards.. just some mild trails. - crossing 3-6 inches water creek -etc -
which obviosuly my SEDAN cant do.... at some ranches I visit 100 miles from Dallas.
hence i need all the 4X4 bells whistles and raising lowering. whatevr is standard..
its tragic that so many folks have this WONDERFUL GX model but really have never used it in some dirt roads to appreciate the way it easily works.
i took my friends luxury one and LOVED it.. just cuts through wherever u wanna go. 6-8 inch obstacles. NUTHING..!!

Also - I need towing capacity.. like 2-3000 lbs.. and GX is rated 5000 or somethnig in that range

HEY- I hope all LUXURY Models come with TOW PACKAGE.? adding one is a Pain in the A... later...

thanks for the insightful information. but I should have been more specific..
by offroading i didnt mean the whole 9 yards.. just some mild trails. - crossing 3-6 inches water creek -etc -
which obviosuly my SEDAN cant do.... at some ranches I visit 100 miles from Dallas.
hence i need all the 4X4 bells whistles and raising lowering. whatevr is standard..
its tragic that so many folks have this WONDERFUL GX model but really have never used it in some dirt roads to appreciate the way it easily works.
i took my friends luxury one and LOVED it.. just cuts through wherever u wanna go. 6-8 inch obstacles. NUTHING..!!

Also - I need towing capacity.. like 2-3000 lbs.. and GX is rated 5000 or somethnig in that range

HEY- I hope all LUXURY Models come with TOW PACKAGE.? adding one is a Pain in the A... later...

2018s are basically all gone, a couple exist, but either the dealership is difficult to work with, are demos, or unlisted on popular sites.

In your situation where you have narrowed it down to a GX, pricing is variable and towing is of utmost importance

You can step into a non-luxury and maybe add helper springs (air bags that are inflated via an aux pump in the coil similar to a prado setup) or even Timbrens that some folks have starting installing (check the main forums of the GX).

Pricing wise if you have access to Manheim vehicles prices + finders fee from a dealer friend, you can forgo the private party/second hand market markup these vehicles have and come out on ahead. For everyone else, your gonna be hard pressed to find a vehicle thats better then when the new vehicles were pushing 20% discounts.

2018s are basically all gone, a couple exist, but either the dealership is difficult to work with, are demos, or unlisted on popular sites.

In your situation where you have narrowed it down to a GX, pricing is variable and towing is of utmost importance

You can step into a non-luxury and maybe add helper springs (air bags that are inflated via an aux pump in the coil similar to a prado setup) or even Timbrens that some folks have starting installing (check the main forums of the GX).

Pricing wise if you have access to Manheim vehicles prices + finders fee from a dealer friend, you can forgo the private party/second hand market markup these vehicles have and come out on ahead. For everyone else, your gonna be hard pressed to find a vehicle thats better then when the new vehicles were pushing 20% discounts.

thanks for the insightful information. but I should have been more specific..
by offroading i didnt mean the whole 9 yards.. just some mild trails. - crossing 3-6 inches water creek -etc -
which obviosuly my SEDAN cant do.... at some ranches I visit 100 miles from Dallas.
hence i need all the 4X4 bells whistles and raising lowering. whatevr is standard..
its tragic that so many folks have this WONDERFUL GX model but really have never used it in some dirt roads to appreciate the way it easily works.
i took my friends luxury one and LOVED it.. just cuts through wherever u wanna go. 6-8 inch obstacles. NUTHING..!!
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I am still not sure you understand what they are saying. Only the rear of the vehicle will raise and lower, and it is only about an inch each way and it is painfully slow.
I was looking at the luxury edition for the same reason, but the air lift actually decreases your approach angle because you are only raising the rear.
And it you plan on lifting it, you will likely lose that function anyway unless you add a very short spacer.
In other words, it is basically useless for off roading (and will actually make it worse when raised in the rear) unless you are trying to raise the rear bumper a tiny bit coming off a ledge to keep it from scratching. You are better off with a Range Rover or Grand Cherokee if that is a must have feature for you.