SkinsJock wrote:I just don't agree that having Orakpo back playing is a 'problem' like SF33 is pointing to in his post

I think that having both these guys on our squad and ready to contribute is a good thing

Not saying it is a problem! I am saying there is a trade off. RJ is MUCH better in coverage. Rak is a much better pass rusher and I would say RJ has a slight edge in run support, but if someone wanted to say Rak was a little better in run support I wouldn't argue it.

I would like to never have Rak in pass coverage, he is just that much of a liability when you compare him to RJ. He wasn't drafted as high as he was to cover TEs and RBs. He was drafted to put pressure on the QB.

Maybe, the coaches will figure out how to use both.

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UK Skins Fan wrote:Well, I have no idea what "crown" this is that Orakpo is planning to win back, but I''ll be very glad to see him back. Let's hope he returns at 100% this time, and stays healthy.

Rak isn't being crowned. My point is that I'm not going to crown Rob Jackson as being better than Rak after playing 3/5 of a season...

My post was a reference to Orakpo's own words, not a response to yours Chris. I'm deliberately and mischievously reading way too much into his comment about winning back his crown - it just grated with me a little, given that I really don't think he's proven to anyone yet that he's a premier pass rusher in this league. He's a very good one, and certainly will be a great addition to our defence if he returns healthy, and I'll be genuinely pleased to see him back.

HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:Hearing that he's 100% is very encouraging. I was a bit doubtful of him from what I've heard about the potential complexity of his injury.

Speaking of which, I heard a lot of commentators stating Orakpo's injury as one that is usually chronic and take a very long, complicated process to heal.

I'm pretty sure there's no doctor's on this board, but is this just more BS from Skins haters or is there another player(s) that have confirmed this.

Not trying to be negative at all, just a bit excited and am hoping for the most reasonable reality check possible.

I think in general it is hard to recover from without damaging it again. That means rehab is key. For now he is in the clear, has taken a lot of time off, but its still a repeat injury to a surgically repaired area. I understand that he didn't tear the exact same thing just same muscle group on the same side. Obviously rehabilitating is tough- part of you gets weaker while the other over compensates. Hopefully the added time off slowed down his recovery time table, and leads to complete strengthening and conditioning of all muscles in the area. Sounds like he feels like he is in much better shape then he was previously, and is hopeful its a thing of the past.
Long story short he rushed it the first time(s) and that led to re-injury, he's altered his approach to the healing process and now he feels and expects to stay healthy.

HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:Hearing that he's 100% is very encouraging. I was a bit doubtful of him from what I've heard about the potential complexity of his injury.

Speaking of which, I heard a lot of commentators stating Orakpo's injury as one that is usually chronic and take a very long, complicated process to heal.

I'm pretty sure there's no doctor's on this board, but is this just more BS from Skins haters or is there another player(s) that have confirmed this.

Not trying to be negative at all, just a bit excited and am hoping for the most reasonable reality check possible.

I think in general it is hard to recover from without damaging it again. That means rehab is key. For now he is in the clear, has taken a lot of time off, but its still a repeat injury to a surgically repaired area. I understand that he didn't tear the exact same thing just same muscle group on the same side. Obviously rehabilitating is tough- part of you gets weaker while the other over compensates. Hopefully the added time off slowed down his recovery time table, and leads to complete strengthening and conditioning of all muscles in the area. Sounds like he feels like he is in much better shape then he was previously, and is hopeful its a thing of the past.Long story short he rushed it the first time(s) and that led to re-injury, he's altered his approach to the healing process and now he feels and expects to stay healthy.

Thanks brother.

That pretty much sums it up for me. I didn't realize it was a different muscle area.

HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:Hearing that he's 100% is very encouraging. I was a bit doubtful of him from what I've heard about the potential complexity of his injury.

Speaking of which, I heard a lot of commentators stating Orakpo's injury as one that is usually chronic and take a very long, complicated process to heal.

I'm pretty sure there's no doctor's on this board, but is this just more BS from Skins haters or is there another player(s) that have confirmed this.

Not trying to be negative at all, just a bit excited and am hoping for the most reasonable reality check possible.

I think in general it is hard to recover from without damaging it again. That means rehab is key. For now he is in the clear, has taken a lot of time off, but its still a repeat injury to a surgically repaired area. I understand that he didn't tear the exact same thing just same muscle group on the same side. Obviously rehabilitating is tough- part of you gets weaker while the other over compensates. Hopefully the added time off slowed down his recovery time table, and leads to complete strengthening and conditioning of all muscles in the area. Sounds like he feels like he is in much better shape then he was previously, and is hopeful its a thing of the past.Long story short he rushed it the first time(s) and that led to re-injury, he's altered his approach to the healing process and now he feels and expects to stay healthy.

Thanks brother.

That pretty much sums it up for me. I didn't realize it was a different muscle area.

Hope he becomes all he can for as long as he can.

If I remember correctly its his pectoral muscle, same side he had corrective surgery on, but a different part of it.