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Injuries

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People might neg me for this but who cares. I'm tired of the injury excuse. Other teams have injuries and step up and play solid ball. Pittsburg has injuries, next man up, and wins games. Washington has injuries, next man up, and wins games. We seem to use the injuries as a crutch and the record as an excuse. Sick of it, this team needs a dose of bollocks....

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[quote name='T3hRaven' timestamp='1355703580' post='1265697']
A decimated Packers team won the Super Bowl a few years back. Injuries are no excuse, the good teams pick themselves up and move on.
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Beat me to the post. The Packers had something like 15 guys on IR that season.

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We have never really had depth. We have always had a weak secondary until Webb came out of nowhere last year. We tend to have star players over depth. Our 3 starting MLB our out so that is understandable. You just can't replace Suggs.

Packers had a ton of injuries but they also had an amazing QB and a healthy Clay Mathews and Corners. This season may have been different had our star LB and Corner not been injured.

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Having an elite QB changes the equation tremendously . We don't have one .
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Rodgers was drafted in 2005 and practicing behind Brett Favre. Flacco and Rodgers started the same season but Rodgers had been on the bench for 3 years. Flacco is nowhere near Aaron Rodgers but he is also much younger and has had way worse OC.

Rodgers inherited the system that Favre had created and perfected for years.

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[quote name='cobrajet' timestamp='1355704325' post='1265756']
They have been to key starters, then their backups have went down. You can't make excuses, but the quality of play goes down.
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RGIII wasnt a key starter? Ben wasnt a key starter? Where is our next man up mentality? We lower our expectations instead of stepping up when its tough.

People keep talking about Lewis being out, he was cold before the injury. Suggs is back but hasnt been much of a factor since the Houston game. I think Reed is shy due to NFL fining him to death. All I'm trying to say is that other teams put people on the field and pay them and expect, EXPECT them to perform and we seem to expect them to fail.

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Generally, our second- and third-string players do not step up. Look at our last four drafts, and you will see that Ozzie has slipped as a drafter especially in rounds one through four. His drafts since 2009 have proved that. He is now just a mediocre General Manager much like Cameron was a mediocre Offensive Coordinator. I am a member of the Flock who holds Ozzie accountable in not acquiring better college football players to play at the NFL level.

It is still early, but I think Jimmy Smith could be a bust. We will know next year.

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I dont know what to say. If you think Webb is equally as good and effective as J. Smith, then, well I just dont know what to say.

There is a reason some players are first string, others are second, and others are third or practice squad. There is a reason some players were sitting on their couch a month ago.
Some times your back up are starter quality, some times your second string has a long long way to go.

I caught my self saying "Who is that ? " during the introduction of the defense quite a bit today.

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[quote name='frank21054' timestamp='1355703666' post='1265709']
Beat me to the post. The Packers had something like 15 guys on IR that season.
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That team was ridiculously stacked. Not to mention they still had Clay Mathews and their receiving core. Most of the IR was special teams.
But point taken, the team isn't that good.

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[quote name='dhstandard' timestamp='1355704743' post='1265792']
Rodgers was drafted in 2005 and practicing behind Brett Favre. Flacco and Rodgers started the same season but Rodgers had been on the bench for 3 years. Flacco is nowhere near Aaron Rodgers but he is also much younger and has had way worse OC.

Rodgers inherited the system that Favre had created and perfected for years.
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Rodgers' OC and HC are two of the greatest offensive minds in the game today.

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It could also be that the team needs a new strength and conditionibg coach. Injuries in sports are random but can be systemic. Many of the players who have been the "next man up" so to speak have sustained naggiing injuries that have hurt the team. The old saying is "Stay alert or get hurt." I don't know if this has contributed to the injury plague but it should be considered during the off-season. Ray and Terrell have no business playing period!

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[quote name='frozen joe flacco fan' timestamp='1355810107' post='1268825']
It could also be that the team needs a new strength and conditionibg coach. Injuries in sports are random but can be systemic. Many of the players who have been the "next man up" so to speak have sustained naggiing injuries that have hurt the team. The old saying is "Stay alert or get hurt." I don't know if this has contributed to the injury plague but it should be considered during the off-season. Ray and Terrell have no business playing period!
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I mentioned this in another topic, but we haven't had issues with injuries til this season. the S&C guy is fine.

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[quote name='luvrayrice27' timestamp='1355709939' post='1266263']
what i dont understand is this.. for the first couple games of the season didn't we have all our defensive starters minus suggs but our d still dropped in ranking?...now becuz of injury its even worse
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New DC, new system, new terms. There was a learning curve.

Now we have PS guys playing pro bowl caliber opposition. It's no wonder the results aren't as good as we hoped.