:Second, it is very difficult to communicate with your fellow editors on the English OrthodoxWiki if you do not speak English.

:Second, it is very difficult to communicate with your fellow editors on the English OrthodoxWiki if you do not speak English.

:Third, judging by the translation available at [translate.google.com], your comment is inappropriate for OrthodoxWiki. It is very appropriate, given the tone, for a blog, and I believe that there are many of these blogs available, a couple specifically geared for the various problems in the Serbian Orthodox Diocese in Australia. It may also be appropriate for direct communication with the parish, but I highly doubt that the wording expressed here will win anyone back to the Orthodox Church. &mdash; by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 10:15, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

:Third, judging by the translation available at [translate.google.com], your comment is inappropriate for OrthodoxWiki. It is very appropriate, given the tone, for a blog, and I believe that there are many of these blogs available, a couple specifically geared for the various problems in the Serbian Orthodox Diocese in Australia. It may also be appropriate for direct communication with the parish, but I highly doubt that the wording expressed here will win anyone back to the Orthodox Church. &mdash; by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 10:15, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

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:It's a discussion page about the article itself - such as, how can the article be improved. This is an encyclopedia, it's neither discussion forum nor chatroom.

:It's a discussion page about the article itself - such as, how can the article be improved. This is an encyclopedia, it's neither discussion forum nor chatroom.

:Your comment was mostly about ethnicity with a tangential lunge towards Church history. It's not the best argument to attract people back to an institution which exists to bring people to Christ (Who your post did not mention). &mdash; by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 10:45, February 21, 2010 (UTC).

:Your comment was mostly about ethnicity with a tangential lunge towards Church history. It's not the best argument to attract people back to an institution which exists to bring people to Christ (Who your post did not mention). &mdash; by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 10:45, February 21, 2010 (UTC).

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The section "Serbian Patriarchate (1992-2008)" could perhaps say " Serbian Patriarchate (1992-Present)" that's how you can improve the page itself.

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You wrote "which exists to bring people to Christ (Who your post did not mention). " Are you telling me what to write? M.Erac

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:It could, but it shouldn't - the page is about the parish's history, and it left the Church of Serbia around 2008, joining the Holy Synod in Resistance (under Bishop Chrysostomos of Sydney).

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:I'm more pointing out that telling people to come back to the Church without mentioning Christ is probably not going to work (not in the long run, anyway). You can take the advice or leave it, it was a tangent away from my central point of 'not appropriate for an encyclopedia', and I shan't bring it up again on the talk page about this parish.

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Well you are telling me what is appropriate and what is not and then you are admitting to going off on a tangent... I believe that the church is considered part of the Serbian Church currently and that your heading is wrong but anyway, I am out, bye.

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M.ERAC, dont take the corrections to heart. You need to understand the purpose of this forum and keep it in perspective. I do not agree with the comments you have made but I too have been corrected and reminded that this is a free to public information forum that we need to fill with FACT and not taint with our personal feelings in this time of dispute.

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I respected the changes made to my posts which I know would not sit well with you had you read them but in turn am greatful for the mediation that takes place to remind us to stand back and view our circumstances in a factual and unbiased manner.

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''“At first we were confused. The East thought that we were West while the West considered us to be East. Some of us misunderstood our place in the clash of currents so they cried that we belong to neither side and others that we belong exclusively to one side or the other. But I tell you Ireneus we are doomed by fate to be the East in the West and the West in the East to acknowledge only heavenly Jerusalem beyond us and here on earth--no one.”'' —St. Sava to Irenaeus, 13th Century

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Consider these words from the father of our faith. If we fight umongst ourselves we betray all he stood for in the eyes of Christ!

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ok, if you think that it's inappropriate I have deleted my post. Secondly, I don't know how to sign the comment, I am new to this ( I wasn't hiding my identity - there were no bad intentions)

This is a DISCUSSION page, and I expressed my opinion about the section which relates to the fact that this church is seeking recognition outside the Serbian Church. If you don't want comments here, or you want them written in a way you like it, I wont discuss anything anymore, enjoy your page!

"I highly doubt that the wording expressed here will win anyone back to the Orthodox Church" - OK, I highly doubt that you understood the essence of my comment which was in Serbian.

M.Erac

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First, please remember to sign your posts with four tilde's (~~~~).

Second, it is very difficult to communicate with your fellow editors on the English OrthodoxWiki if you do not speak English.

Third, judging by the translation available at [translate.google.com], your comment is inappropriate for OrthodoxWiki. It is very appropriate, given the tone, for a blog, and I believe that there are many of these blogs available, a couple specifically geared for the various problems in the Serbian Orthodox Diocese in Australia. It may also be appropriate for direct communication with the parish, but I highly doubt that the wording expressed here will win anyone back to the Orthodox Church. — by Pιsτévοtalkcomplaints at 10:15, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

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It's a discussion page about the article itself - such as, how can the article be improved. This is an encyclopedia, it's neither discussion forum nor chatroom.

Your comment was mostly about ethnicity with a tangential lunge towards Church history. It's not the best argument to attract people back to an institution which exists to bring people to Christ (Who your post did not mention). — by Pιsτévοtalkcomplaints at 10:45, February 21, 2010 (UTC).

The section "Serbian Patriarchate (1992-2008)" could perhaps say " Serbian Patriarchate (1992-Present)" that's how you can improve the page itself.
You wrote "which exists to bring people to Christ (Who your post did not mention). " Are you telling me what to write? M.Erac

It could, but it shouldn't - the page is about the parish's history, and it left the Church of Serbia around 2008, joining the Holy Synod in Resistance (under Bishop Chrysostomos of Sydney).

I'm more pointing out that telling people to come back to the Church without mentioning Christ is probably not going to work (not in the long run, anyway). You can take the advice or leave it, it was a tangent away from my central point of 'not appropriate for an encyclopedia', and I shan't bring it up again on the talk page about this parish.

Well you are telling me what is appropriate and what is not and then you are admitting to going off on a tangent... I believe that the church is considered part of the Serbian Church currently and that your heading is wrong but anyway, I am out, bye.

M.ERAC, dont take the corrections to heart. You need to understand the purpose of this forum and keep it in perspective. I do not agree with the comments you have made but I too have been corrected and reminded that this is a free to public information forum that we need to fill with FACT and not taint with our personal feelings in this time of dispute.

I respected the changes made to my posts which I know would not sit well with you had you read them but in turn am greatful for the mediation that takes place to remind us to stand back and view our circumstances in a factual and unbiased manner.

“At first we were confused. The East thought that we were West while the West considered us to be East. Some of us misunderstood our place in the clash of currents so they cried that we belong to neither side and others that we belong exclusively to one side or the other. But I tell you Ireneus we are doomed by fate to be the East in the West and the West in the East to acknowledge only heavenly Jerusalem beyond us and here on earth--no one.” —St. Sava to Irenaeus, 13th Century

Consider these words from the father of our faith. If we fight umongst ourselves we betray all he stood for in the eyes of Christ!