Peyton Manning lived the Super Bowl loss. He doesn't see the need to critique it. Speaking publicly for the first time since the Seahawks routed the Broncos 43-8, Manning said the stinging defeat should provide motivation for the upcoming season."I don't really have a word for ...

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At the tone, leave your name and message and I'll get back to you."Jim, it's Beth. You have the vet's number, the flea collar and extra litter. One thing I forgot, keep him away from the other cats. He's not very discriminating."

SnowPlow18 wrote:Sometimes you need a good A whooping to be your motivation for redemption.

He's had two whoopings already. How many more does he need?

At the tone, leave your name and message and I'll get back to you."Jim, it's Beth. You have the vet's number, the flea collar and extra litter. One thing I forgot, keep him away from the other cats. He's not very discriminating."

i am sorry to tell you this but manning is not going to win any more superbowls his first and only was over ten years ago . and with all the revamping of the team there is no way they are going back next year you could never get so many new guys in key positions to firm up and play like a team in one year . no way . only two teams in history have ever returned to the super bowl after being blown out like denver and denver is not one of those teams . you see people think that stats get it done . no way no stat ever won a superbowl . i don't care how many passing yards {i. e. marino) you have 10 or 10,000 if you can't beat the seahawks or even get a point until the third qtr you don't stand a chance and that is the only stat that counts . now i am not a denver fan no way i could never root for a team that wears orange not exactly a tough color maybe pink should be thier color especailly after super bowl loss .my team has never one a super bowl they have been there just never one and i love when someone starts talk crap about the lowly broncos and they start with how many rings do you have . well i don't have any and neither do any of the person broncos fans so take that to the bank . buh bye

Yesterday, this line popped into my head after writing about the range of possible outcomes on each play and how the Broncos offense had engaged some terrible outcomes on several plays. Many football arguments revolve around the question of apportioning amounts of blame. Let's leave that aside while we consider "why" Manning has made decisions that have a devastating effect on win probability.

Positive thinking is an important part of success. When Manning is behind center on 3rd & 7 or 3rd &13, one might guess his mentality is almost entirely positive. He's moving the chains. There is very little space available for "bad things that can happen".

"Playing not to not lose" is considered a terrible crime by many but there are no style points in football. As some plays devolve, the QB faces a situation in which the "best" outcome is done, finished, kaput. The only "good" option is to kill the play and hold onto the ball. But it's not uncommon for even hall of fame QBs to blindly cross that "bail out" threshold, temporarily losing their situational awareness.

I'm not implying that Manning lost either the Ravens game or the Seahawks game by himself. The fact remains that there were points in those games where, whatever remaining win probability the Broncos possessed, he destroyed it by being unwilling to accept a busted play. Why?

Maybe part of the answer is about the expectation of being the best and the difficulty in accepting lack of control. The "good" outcome, killing the play, means leaving the field, possibly surrendering the outcome to other players. To do that you need faith in your team and an acceptance that maybe the heroic role might fall to someone else.

and again an article that doesn't focus on where the blame should be placed..How about Mr. Manning..how does it feel to be outplayed by a 2nd year average QB? or Mr. Manning...how could you have not been ready for the 1st play of the game?

and again an article that doesn't focus on where the blame should be placed..How about Mr. Manning..how does it feel to be outplayed by a 2nd year average QB? or Mr. Manning...how could you have not been ready for the 1st play of the game?

I would say adding 3 Pro Bowl players + getting back a Defensive Player of the Year candidate, along with a few more starters, is "dramatically improved", wouldn't you?

Defense will be top-10 this year. Possibly top-5. You can quote me on that.

Regarding Manning, he played poorly, but not sure Ramirez snapping it out of the end zone because he couldn't hear anything falls completely on Peyton.

and again an article that doesn't focus on where the blame should be placed..How about Mr. Manning..how does it feel to be outplayed by a 2nd year average QB? or Mr. Manning...how could you have not been ready for the 1st play of the game?

I would say adding 3 Pro Bowl players + getting back a Defensive Player of the Year candidate, along with a few more starters, is "dramatically improved", wouldn't you?

Defense will be top-10 this year. Possibly top-5. You can quote me on that.

Regarding Manning, he played poorly, but not sure Ramirez snapping it out of the end zone because he couldn't hear anything falls completely on Peyton.

say it again...talib isn't an upgrade over DRC..Ware is a slight upgrade over Phillips...Ward is the only significant upgrade. Who knows about Miller...is he still on the cheetos diet?

Repeat after me....The much maligned defense did not lose the Super Bowl...The blame goes to the Coaching staff and the High Flying Offense led by #18...

wgfolfs wrote:i am sorry to tell you this but manning is not going to win any more superbowls his first and only was over ten years ago . and with all the revamping of the team there is no way they are going back next year you could never get so many new guys in key positions to firm up and play like a team in one year . no way . only two teams in history have ever returned to the super bowl after being blown out like denver and denver is not one of those teams . you see people think that stats get it done . no way no stat ever won a superbowl . i don't care how many passing yards {i. e. marino) you have 10 or 10,000 if you can't beat the seahawks or even get a point until the third qtr you don't stand a chance and that is the only stat that counts . now i am not a denver fan no way i could never root for a team that wears orange not exactly a tough color maybe pink should be thier color especailly after super bowl loss .my team has never one a super bowl they have been there just never one and i love when someone starts talk crap about the lowly broncos and they start with how many rings do you have . well i don't have any and neither do any of the person broncos fans so take that to the bank . buh bye

Was this written by somebody's dog? It's not even readable, let alone coherent.

I guess it goes to show that even if you make 20 million, you still need motivation. I'm not sure how hungry Peyton has to be to bring a championship to Denver. Seems like he's been hungry before and the headline implies that he wasn't hungry enough. I think when Peyton retires, and Fox as well, they will look back on the Ravens game and wish they had played to win instead of taking the knee.