Syria Threatens "Surprise" Response To Israel Air Raid; Iran And Russia Pile In

In the aftermath of yesterday's surprising attack by Israel on Syrian soil, an act which any prior justification notwithstanding is a clear act of war sovereign aggression, it was only a matter of time before Syria responded, at least diplomatically at first. And as we also noted yesterday that "Iran has previously warned that any attack on Syria is the same as an attack on Iran" it was safe to assume that Iran would have a thing or two to say in response as well. Earlier today they did just that, with Syria warning that a "surprise" response to the Israel attack is forthcoming, while the "Iranian deputy foreign minister Hossein Amir Abdullahian said the attack "demonstrates the shared goals of terrorists and the Zionist regime... It is necessary for the sides which take tough stances on Syria to now take serious steps and decisive stances against this aggression by Tel Aviv and uphold criteria for security in the region." Finally yesterday we wondered "how Russia and/or China which have made clear that Syria is a strategic geopolitical center for both in the past will react", and today we know: "Russia, which has blocked Western efforts to put pressure on Syria at the United Nations, said that any Israeli air strike would amount to unacceptable military interference." So far nothing from China, which has in the past let Russia be its proxy on Syrian matters.

And while the rhetoric has soared on all sides, it remains to be seen if Syria will indeed challenge Israel or if it will retain its bluster, an act which will simply invite Bibi to launch ever more offensive sorties until one day something finally does snap.

Syria protested to the United Nations on Thursday over an Israeli air strike on its territory and warned of a possible "surprise" response.

The foreign ministry summoned the head of the U.N. force in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights to deliver the protest a day after Israel hit what Syria said was a military research centre and diplomats said was a weapons convoy heading for Lebanon.

"Syria holds Israel and those who protect it in the Security Council fully responsible for the results of this aggression and affirms its right to defend itself, its land and sovereignty," Syrian television quoted it as saying.

The ministry said it considered Wednesday's Israeli attack to be a violation of a 1974 military disengagement agreement which followed their last major war, and demanded the U.N. Security Council condemn it unequivocally.

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon expressed "grave concern". "The Secretary-General calls on all concerned to prevent tensions or their escalation," his office said, adding that international law and sovereignty should be respected.

Russia, which has previously made it very clear it will not tolerate US intervention in what it considers it own backyard, was quick at passing judgment:

"If this information is confirmed, we are dealing with unprovoked attacks on targets on the territory of a sovereign country, which blatantly violates the U.N. Charter and is unacceptable, no matter the motives," Russia's foreign ministry said.

Finally, Iran:

An aide to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said on Saturday Iran would consider any attack on Syria as an attack on itself.

Yet the local Syrians, like most, are very skeptical this war of words will escalate into anything more:

In battle-torn Damascus, residents doubted Syria would fight back. One mother of five said she had heard retaliation would come later. "They always say that. They'll retaliate, but later, not now. Always later," she said, and laughed.

"The last thing we need now is Israeli fighter jets to add to our daily routine. As if we don't have enough noise and firing keeping us awake at night."

Then again, provoking a Syrian retaliation has been the plan all along. Which is why moments ago, just to keep Plan B afloat, Reuters blasted that:

WHITE HOUSE SAYS IRAN'S INSTALLATION OF ADVANCED URANIUM ENRICHMENT CENTRIFUGES WOULD BE PROVOCATIVE STEP IN VIOLATION OF U.N. RESOLUTIONS

2. The strong connection with Neo-Conservative thought in the USA is very prominent, especially in the author's notes. But, while lip service is paid to the idea of the "defense of the West" from Soviet power, the real aim of the author, and of the present Israeli establishment is clear: To make an Imperial Israel into a world power. In other words, the aim of Sharon is to deceive the Americans after he has deceived all the rest.

NWO and The Globalist want a One World Religion. Moloch/Satan what ever. My opinion is that all Religion is all man made anyway built to Divide and Conquer. Part of the Illusion. Vatican part of it. To complete their Agenda by Design and Illusion their Timeline is short. Brzezinski said that The Global Awaking is already taking place. The Occult can no longer hide.

I do not believe however, the idea that all Religion as is bad. Together, all share the same basic moral of The Ten Commandments which criss cross all Religions. My point is that we are all in this together and one Conscious. And that awaking, the one Brezinski is speaking about is “Their” great secret. Part of the Occult. Only one small part of their “Illusion”.

Government is the biggest Crime Syndicate of Human Kind. All Free mansionic Illuminant’s in one regard or another. The Pure Evil of Satanists that have been living in Illusion among us for over 200 years and the founding of our Republic.

A bit out there as it has to do with bloodlines and prohecy...but interesting nonetheless. The author orginally created the site in 1993, with updates along the way throughout the following years since...

With a grain of salt...for your consideration:

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In this section I will prove how the current Syrian crisis is the very catalyst God is using today, as detailed above, which will soon push Russian and perhaps even Iranian forces, toward Israel's border, in Syria, thereby fulfilling what God has stated above in "putting a hook in the jaws" of Russia (the Biblical "Gog and Magog"), with God Himself "drawing them forth" closer "toward the mountains of Israel," to battle.

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Since, at any moment now, the current crisis in Syria is potentially on the verge of spilling over into a wider regional war, and with Russian and Iranian and soon to be Turkish forces already in Syria, and thus already on Israel's border, perhaps another way the Israeli population could be attacked by such an overwhelming force of nations, is if a stray or intentional missile coming from Syria hits Jewish civilians in Israel, causing major life loss. The Israeli government would then counter-attack and suppose their attacks kills Russian, Iranian, and/or the Turkish alliance within Syria, such deaths of their military forces would of course ignite anger felt back in Moscow, Terhan, and Ankara. Certainly, as events play themselves out, despite whatever the media believes, Russia and Iran are only growing closer together and are increasingly becoming one like mind. God's prophecy for Israel, as all Biblical prophecy before, has been, must be, and will be fulfilled. Clearly, we are right now on the cusp of witnessing the Russian forces pour into their Tartus naval base in Syria, and it is very interesting to see the "Young Lions," (America and the West) today, already asking what are Russia's intentions for showing such force in the Syrian nation. Even more intriguing, God makes clear where and where He destroys these invading armies, as "upon the mountains of Israel," (likely the Golan Heights) and He even provides the timeframe as to when this will occur by saying twice it shall occur in the Latter Years, meaning, in the end of days or the end-times. Might this battle also be part of what the ancient Mayans foresaw to occur in 2012? Certainly by 2013 something must be done regarding Iran, and their evil ally in Russia.

christians have been brainwashed to root for the very thing jesus warned them to avoid. Iran and Russia are not fomenting wars around the world... or attacking anyone. Jesus taught, to recognize evil through actions. people need to take off their blinders and look around.

But the Rooskies are very interested in selling arms...and hookers and drugs, but in this part of the world they already have drugs and goats and sheep, so really all they want are arms, and the Rooskies don't want a good customer puinished too much or they'll no longer be around to buy their crap. But people have been brainwashed into the idea that the Rooskies are noble disinterested folks just trying to be nice guys and brainwashed into thinking the Persians are just swell people who wouldn't hurt a fly if just left alone to do Muhammads bidding.

no one comes close to uncle sam in terms of arms sales. and as far as the hookers and drugs, most organized crime rings in russia are in fact run by Jews. is Russia perfect? no... but, Russian armies are not swarming all over the globe, unlike the 'armies of freedom' unleased by uncle sam at the behest of his zionist handlers.

Many times we confuse our truth with the one truth who taught as Master. Fear has no place in a Loving heart so many here at times shed much of it. Man has no jurisdiction deciding the future, yet we consume ourselves in preparing for it. Most will not be prepared because no amount of money, nor power, nor intelligence will be able to build a fortress against what we have created both past and present. Some speak of Jesus here. Blessed be those who have accepted the truth that only the holy spirit can bring. Jesus took his murder and turned it into a sacrifice for all our sins. That is the real deal Love. It is for all yet how many feel it? Let alone comprehend it?

What we have today is what we have chosen upon ourselves. I will write it again: Look within and you shall never be without. Yet most can not look within themselves and find peace because God has been renounced. Accept repentance(take responsibility for your actions) and forgivenss is bestowed. Soon Enlightenment precedes. When one renounces the world it is in reference to renouncing the ego that makes one feel falsely confident in this gluttonous system. For if our heart is filled with ego, Love has no room. We have free-will. The only God like power humans hold. Use it wisely.

I did not watch the video. I also reject your lacking because it brings nothing righteous. You reside under the same sun as I, so how can you cast me into your judgement when you know not how to judge?

brainwashed by whom?!? It's almost as if the person considered the father of propaganda is somehow related to those practicing his art today. Sounds like they tell a lot of Big Lies. Who talked about how somebody or other told a lot of Big Lies?

All this was inspired by the principle - which is quite true in itself - that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.

It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes.

From time immemorial; however, the Jews have known better than any others how falsehood and calumny can be exploited. Is not their very existence founded on one great lie, namely, that they are a religious community, whereas in reality they are a race? And what a race! One of the greatest thinkers that mankind has produced has branded the Jews for all time with a statement which is profoundly and exactly true. He (Schopenhauer) called the Jew "The Great Master of Lies". Those who do not realize the truth of that statement, or do not wish to believe it, will never be able to lend a hand in helping Truth to prevail.- Adolf Hitler, quote from Mein Kampf (page 184-185)

How bout Ashkenazi monguls, ? That's who many jew writers acknowledge they are: Alfred Lilenthal "The 13th Tribe" says 'Your white Christian neigbor has more Israelite blood in him than 90% of those identifying themselves as jews today" (paraphrasing)

They admit they are AT BEST from ESAU/EDOM...not Jacob/Israel. But they DO LIE just as Yahshua stated: Rev 2:9 and 3:9

Imposters and most so called Christians believe them cause they won't study thier own Bible or read pertinent history, duh!

Whenever I read someone bloviating about the "NWO" or the "Illuminati" or the "Vatican" or "Jesuits" I know right away that they are really just someone trying to keep all eyes off Israel and the Zionist 5th column in the US government in media which, along with the non-Jewish bankers, war profiteers, and oil sluts - are basically the easily discernible, self-interested, lying, cheating, warmongering problem.

Now fuck off back to Infowars - Alex Jones will help you chase all the ghosts you want.

Funny, I tend to note that all you've listed are but abstract entities full of individuals. That you would promote one set over the other is to confuse the issue that NONE of them are capable of anything.

As always it is the individuals who use these fictions as cover that matters.

We reach an impass EVERY time this subject comes up. Someone makes a TRUE statement about a group and someone retorts with individuals and expects that to be a refutation.

What you say is also true, individuals do things, not groups. BUT, what you have not considered is the emergent complexity that gives the GROUP or the SYSTEM a life of its own, even its own goals and kind of hive mind.

This is the conundrum that has driven "the Question" about different groups throughout history. The individuals were pretty ok by themselves. But the swarm or school or hive of them had and has distinct destructive side effects.

It is incontrovertible that there is something EMERGENT about the group in question, that somehow dominates media, finance, congress, fashion, and other key industries, and there's nothing to argue about the particular message that comes out. It's like they're related or THINK ALIKE. Related people tend to do that as a function of biology. And like-minded actors sum up to form a system that appears independent of them. This is the problem. The system that all of these individuals have created is toxic. You cannot destroy the system, however, without effect to the individuals.

And the system that these individuals have spawned acts to PROTECT their interests and its own, at all costs. And their system doesn't have a problem raping you as an individual or whatever group you belong to. Part of their propaganda is to convince everyone ELSE, specifically one rival group, that even having a group identity is evil, all the while strongly maintaining their own. Apartheid is evil except in their State. Deporting illegal aliens en masse is evil, except in their State. Ethnocentricity is evil, except if you're an approved group, then it's encouraged.

Their system produces destruction for those not in their group. But yes you can evaluate each individual as effectively "innocent." There is no ONE person that can be punished. So wtf is anyone to do? Pretend there is no problem? Dismiss the entire discussion as "collectivist", aka, punt?

"Group think" is what myself and few others have been calling it for years now. Multi-nodal stupidity - lol. Realistically, the more stressful the world becomes, the more such behaviors are reinforced... and in thier minds justified. Ironic really how we sow the seeds of our own destruction. Human nature, right at it's core, is the real meat and potatoes of the conversation. To talk about that, people need to get over the equality bullshit. There are differences, cultural, genenic, and otherwise that must be discussed objectively in order to get anywhere. Chance of that happening... zero.

No one forced anyone to join these groups or is forcing anyone to stay. Elitism of modern times is rather color blind, the important qualifications are wealth, influence, and total lack of anything I'm willing to call ethics, or if you prefer, "a strong code of morality which just happens to intensely conflict with the freedom/property/happiness/life of all people not within the group".

If you accept that individuals bear the responsibility for their actions, condeming a group is effectively the same as saying "all members of this group are guilty of some combination of x, y, and z, to varying degrees". As a general rule, the level of guilt increases as you climb the chain of command, but trigger-men and lackeys are still very fucking guilty in their own ways.

Perhaps only one leader will bear ultimate responsibility, but that is materially irrelevant. Everyone in a voluntary-membership group contributes in some way to that group.

"Zionism" is one such group. Every Zionist lends some degree of support to every other Zionist, even its impact on the goals of Zionism is infinitescimal compared to, say, these guys.

"For most of the first 1500 years of Christianity usury, the lending of money at interest, was unanimously condemned by the Fathers of the Early Church, and by popes, councils and saints, as a damnable sin equivalent to robbery and even murder. Any interest on loans of money, not just “exorbitant” interest, was defined de fide as a grave transgression against God and man."

Yes... because if I work my ass off for twenty years and acquire some savings, if I want some compensation for the risk of lending those savings out (and possibly never seeing it again) Mr. God should send me straight to hell.

It's the idiot Catholic Church's proscriptions on usury (which just means lending money at interest) that got all us Goyim into the situation we find ourselves in now - payrolling Zionism and having to pay rent for our money.

If you accept the analogy by Joe Rogan that humanity is essentially/behaviorally "like bacteria", it's a lot easier to conceive of groupings of similar bacteria competing with groupings of different bacteria.

Goodness me, Trav. I often disagree with what you have to say but that was really rather beautifully exposited.

If you'd only take off your racial blinkers and see that it's primarily a cultural, not biological phenomenon. Most of 'the group in question' aren't racially homogenous by any stretch of the imagination, though their 'we're the master race' creed impels them to bend the rules of logic and biology to so assert.

Just one look around a European/US/Canadian synagogue will tell you most of them are no more Semitic than Adolf Hitler.

Ironically, from what I understand, the genuinely Semitic Jews - the Sephardim - are treated like an underclass in Israel.

I think the reasons for the wars and the devaluation of the dollar lay with overlapping groups of people - including large banks and central bankers, oil and gas companies, intelligence agencies, war profiteers, and a cabal of Zionist Jews in positions of influence who seek to 'roll back' other regional powers because they intend to expand beyond their borders one day.

That's about as clear as I can be. More specifically, if you look to the confirmation of Hagel today, and the run up, you will see the Israeli-bought senators, and the mostly Jewish neocon writers and think tankers who want a litmus test for American appointees to be how much they'll sacrifice American Christian blood and treasure for the Jewish State and its ongoing ethnic cleansing and war crimes, based on racialist, supremacist, historically inaccurate myth.

Alex Jones never mentions the neocons, or their many white papers going back to the 80s which called for the "roll back" of surrounding states, nor the various Israeli spy scandals, or Lavon Affair, or USS Liberty. Whether or not Israel as involved in 9/11, or just had knowledge - there's plenty of stuff out there that was in MSM. ALEX JONES NEVER, EVER MENTIONS THIS - WHAT HE WON'T TALK ABOUT TELLS YOU WHO HE WORKS FOR. THE VAGUENESS OF HIS TERMINOLOGY IS TO PREVENT OR FRUSTRATE ANY SORT OF GENUINE POLITICAL ACTION. HIS APPEARANCE ON PIERS MORGAN WAS CALCULATED TO PORTRAY GUN OWNERS AS CRAZY NUTS.

He is a fucking shill for mainly Jewish advertisers and backers, and he is worse than useless on talking about the very real undue pressure "the lobby" has on our politics.

Clear enough? You junkers can suck a bag of dicks and go try to post something critical [AND FACTUAL] of Israel on infowars.

Well, well, well. It apprears we have a "newbie" here Hedgers. A whole two weeks and three hours worth. Ahhhh, poor newbie doesn't have the criticle thinking skills to debate so newbie resorts to name calling. Now' now newbie. Settle down, your mommy will be home soon so you can suckle on her milkly tities and go back to sleep.

Themselves. The following is for the Public Schooled indocrinated individual above.

The political creed of Zionism has big ears and a long trunk and I think it’s time that was pointed out. It also stampedes through our lives at every level and that needs to be said, too.

It has created a pincer-movement on the human mind by hijacking staggering amounts of political, corporate, banking and media power on one side and by using the fear of being called ‘anti-Semitic’ if you dare to state the bloody obvious.

They have been able to do this by equating in public perception that Zionism = Jewish people. It does not. Zionism is a political creed introduced by the House of Rothschild to advance the goals of the Illuminati families that are largely controlled by the Rothschilds.

When people think of Zionism they think of Jewish people. When they think of Israel they think of Jewish people. That’s understandable given the propaganda, but it is seriously misleading and those instant connections need to be broken if we are going to understand what’s going on here.

Zionism means Rothschild just as Israel means Rothschild. When we see the extraordinary number of Zionists in key positions around the world we are looking not at ‘manipulating Jews’, but manipulating Zionists representing the interests and demands of the Rothschilds.

Significant numbers of Jewish people are not Zionists and oppose that appalling creed while many Zionists are not Jewish. These include the Christian Zionists and Obama’s vice-president, Joe Biden, who told Israeli television ‘I’m a Zionist’. If, as Biden rightly says, you don’t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist, how can it be a racial rather than a political movement? It can’t. It’s just made to appear like that to manipulate public perception because opposing Zionism then becomes opposing Jewish people as a whole and the ‘you’re a racist’ card can be played over and over.

Far from protecting and advancing the interests of the mass of Jewish people it has often been devastating for them and caused millions to be labelled unfairly by the actions of the Zionist elite. On the Jews Against Zionism website one feature highlights how Rothschild Zionism targeted Jews who had lived for generations in Palestine side-by-side with Arabs in peace and harmony:

‘The religious Jews who by virtue of their faith, clearly contradicted Zionist nationalism, and who had lived peacefully with their Arab neighbors for generations, became unwillingly identified with the Zionist cause and their struggle with the Arabs.

They requested the United Nations that Jerusalem be designated as a defacto international city. They appealed to the diplomatic corps assigned to Jerusalem — but to no avail. They were hence confronted with the choice of either becoming a part of the Zionist State, which diametrically opposed the interests of Jews as a religion, or abandoning the land of which their forefathers were the first Jewish settlers.

Let’s get this straight. Zionism doesn’t give a damn about Jewish people. To the Rothschilds and their Zionist gofers and thugs the Jewish people as a whole are merely cattle to be used and abused as necessary – just like the rest of the human population.

The networks of the House of Rothschild were behind Hitler and the rise of the Nazi Party in the Rothschild heartland of Germany where they had changed their name from Bauer in 18th century Frankfurt and launched the dynasty that was to control global finance.

After the war the Rothschilds used public sympathy for Jewish people targeted by the Nazis to press for a homeland in Palestine. This was the alleged reason for the founding of Zionism, but that is only part of it.

The campaign to impose a Rothschild fiefdom in Palestine goes back at least to the earlier part of the 19th century and probably long before. It was given a massive boost with the Balfour Declaration in 1917 when the British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour declared in a letter his government’s support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine.

This letter was sent by Balfour, an inner-circle member of an elite secret society called the Round Table, to Baron (Walter) Rothschild who funded the Round Table.

Today, Rothschild Illuminati fronts like the Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg Group, Royal Institute of International Affairs, and others, still answer to the Round Table which string-pulls and coordinates from the shadows. This is why Zionists in government are invariably connected with these Rothschild-controlled organisations.

The Rothschilds funded the early settlers from Europe to relocate in post-war Palestine and they also funded and armed the terrorist groups, like Irgun, which bombed and terrorised Israel into existence in 1948, a campaign which forced 800,000 Palestinians to leave the land of their birth.

Israel is simply the State of Rothschild and how appropriate that they paid for the construction of the Israeli parliament building, the Knesset, and the Israel Supreme Court. The name Rothschild means Red-shield and it originates with the red shield ‘Star of David’ symbol (not a Jewish symbol before the Rothschilds) which they displayed on their house in Frankfurt .

It was smart of Israel to start heat with Syria, since Obama shot down their plan for direct Iranian strikes. Syria has been giving arms to Lebanon for years, why act like this is something new and the BS about chemical weapons. Obama must be pissed that the Jews and not listening to him and going round about way to start an Iranian war. Be careful what you ask for. the whole middle east is going hot very soon.

Izreel gets all the best weapons for free from uncle sugar. nobody else can challenge them in the least. they are invincible and god is always on their side too no matter how many atrocities they commit..

Again "you have to define victory." drawing the Americans in has already been achieved. Syria is chaos...so to soon will Egypt be. I would arrgue the war aim is the Sinai...but that is pure speculation on my part. The mere existence of Israel is in itself a provacative act so what happens here will be...of note.

The only people who use that "CE" bullshit are Jews. That also explains why he wants to attempt to turn Jesus into Horace/Isis/Dionysus. The real Jesus has been a thorn in their side for two thousand years,

Uh, Bozos, I am and will always be "culturally" a christian. I prefer anno domini if only because it pisses off the politically correct marxist idiots. BUT, would it not be disingenuous to use AD when pointing out that the alleged Hay-Suse, never was born?

Oh for the days of Freshman Rhet, when there was some effort to combat laziness and ignorance of logic.

Seeing how you wish to "combat laziness and ignorance of logic" perhaps you can explain how you are "culturally a christian" when don't believe in the birth of Jesus Christ which is an intrinsic part of Christianity.

Dipshit, if Jesus never existed, care to explain the ton of blasphemies contained in the talmud regarding him? Are the islamic traditions about Jesus all based on a jewish Horace (really? Horace?! isn't Horus the droid you're looking for)?! Btw, Isis is portrayed and understood to be a female, did they fucked up the gender also?! Fucking tool you are!

I could go on and on and on but it seems people like you are more willing to believe the most fucked up theories but very thick to accept the truth...

Are you accusing me of ignorance about history when you mention HORACE (?!!) and Isis as being the model for historical Jesus?! And after that you have the audacity of pulling out of thin air a reference to communism?! Are you fucking kidding me?! I lived through hard core communism you fucking tool, what the fuck do you know about it and how dare you accusing me of having communist sympathies?!

Regarding water to wine...you fucking tool you, i cannot make it happen, and i didn't claimed i could do it, but i do claim that Jesus did it (and i cannot prove it, but i do believe it), what is your point here?

You are attacking me as if I'd be part of any established christian denomination. You make the age old error (and the rationale of hatred towards perceived christians from atheists ET all) of equating Jesus and his followers to the church (namely the Roman catholic church and its affiliates) and its symbols and belief systems. The roman catholic church (and the other churches that acquiesce to its belief system) IS the old pagan religion - your Horace (sic), Osiris and Isis (aka Marduk, Tamuz, Nimrod, EN-Ki, Saturn, Baal, Zeus, Ishtar, Ashtarte, EN-LIL, EA, RA and so on and so forth) (and guilty of all the crimes committed over the last 1500 odd years), so no contest here. On the other hand, although your zeitgeist-ish view of the CHURCH(es) is true, it does NOT apply to Jesus or his followers (or to YHWH), leaving you with nothing to stand on.

Do your research, think with your brain, try to stray away from the beaten track of Jesus haters and hopefully you'll reach the truth in the end, before is too late.

Dude, chill out, what happened to that "turn the other cheek" thing you've been thought your whole life, huh? Or maybe that rule isn't applicable to Zealots?

Sit down this weekend and watch this movie, or better yet, find Kazantzakis' masterpiece and read it. In the beginning you might consider it a heresy and it might make you puke your "Christian" guts out, but don't worry, that too shall pass...

Finally you might even understand the true meaning of the expression "we all have a cross to bear".

Sit down this weekend and watch this movie, or better yet, find Kazantzakis' masterpiece and read it. In the beginning you might consider it a heresy and it might make you puke your "Christian" guts out, but don't worry, that too shall pass...

If you think for one second that film of blasphemy is worth your time to watch,your indeed a 3rd worlder.

Lol, DosZap, you must be a Bible-belter, a proud hypocritical descendant of the people who kill(ed) in the name of Jesus and God.

Where exactly do you see blasphemy in the movie? In bashing Church's official dogma of Jesus' godliness or in presenting him as a human being susceptible to fears, doubts and temptations? I recommend you to see it again without validating every single scene with the Bible.

P.S. Let me tell you a few words about this 3rd worlder: he is of the tribe that brought Christianity to the rest of the infidels in the West, but his tribe also happens to be the same one that indirectly helped Reformation. So apparently this guy knows he doesn't need a middle hand of churches and priests to help him get in touch with his Creator. Save your sorry for your own dogmatic close-minded ass.

Why is a tiny country of 8 million people that routinely kills civilians the focus of our foreign policy, and on our front pages anyway?

I definitely don't hate Jewish people, and I don't hate Israel - but I don't give a fuck about it. I also think US Jews have too much power and influence... because they do.

Can we meet half way on the terminology? I don't hate, I just don't want to pay for Israel's wars. And I don't want a minority of a minority - the Jewish neocons, telling American soldiers where to go fight and die, when US Jews are under-represented in the US military, but wildly over-represented in government, law, medicine, etc.

minor correction: half of the "8 million" (or izzit the usual "6 million") are West Bank Arabs, Gaza Arabs, and Arabs-in-Israel proper. The Jews' version of Israeli demography is a brazen hoax. And half of the actual 4 mil live in America at least half the time.

The thing is that to pull off a raid on the Iranian nuclear installations is that it has to be a SURPRISE attack.

There is no surprise after Nuttanyahoo went to the UN blabbering about attacking Iran should the red line on his cartoon bomb be breached.

You can bet Iran to have massive air defenses around those installations and there will be lots of casualties if they try. Israel is just posturing and trying to goad the US into doing the attacking for them.

However, because it was not until the mid-1980’s that the truth about President Kennedy’s behind-the-scenes war with Israel emerged, many otherwise diligent JFK assassination researchers never considered the possibility Israel did have good reason to align with other powerful forces that wanted to remove JFK from the White House. Once you’ve read Final Judgment you will see the evidence of likely Israeli involvement is there.

I was over at commondreams and posted some unpopular reality and they not only banned my comments they took down every post I ever made. Talk about dictatorship. i called them joe stalin for it.. what a joke those liberals are. long live 0hedge

And while the rhetoric has soared on all sides, it remains to be seen if Syria will indeed challenge Israel or if it will retain its bluster, an act which will simply invite Bibi to launch ever more offensive sorties until one day something finally does snap.

Like the gun control debate - you don't allow weapons to lunatics that claim that if they get them it will be death and destruction to their neighbors. Islamic crazies want to be sent to their 70 virgins asap... imagine their surprise when they find out that the virgins are guyz...!

All states and people have the right to pre-emptive defensive strikes when there is a clear and present danger. If Syria publicly states they have a "surprise" for Tel Aviv, then there is no need for Israel to wait to defend itself. If Iran states that a strike on Syria is a strike on Iran - then so be it. Israel has been officially threatened by hostile and armed neighbors with intent. If Syria has no problem with slaughtering 40,000 of their own people as Barack Hussein Obama stands idle... What do you expect to happen next?

you don't allow weapons to lunatics that claim that if they get them it will be death and destruction to their neighbors.

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Islamic crazies want to be sent to their 70 virgins asap...

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All states and people have the right to pre-emptive defensive strikes when there is a clear and present danger.

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If Syria publicly states they have a "surprise" for Tel Aviv, then there is no need for Israel to wait to defend itself.

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If Iran states that a strike on Syria is a strike on Iran - then so be it. Israel has been officially threatened by hostile and armed neighbors with intent.

five...

no problem with slaughtering 40,000 of their own people

six (a tried and true classic, I'll admit)...

Barack Hussein Obama

seven.

You don't just go and take seven different raving points from the pages of Neocon Commix® and disgorge them in a single bullshit tsunami. They must be used more sparingly, and each wrapped in its own cloak of plausibility. Otherwise, even the room temperature IQ incognoscenti will catch on that you're bullshitting them.

Indeed, he got a bit greedy and tried to get the full deal, but it was a nice effort nonetheless. On the other hand he lost points for not mentioning the holocaust and Palestinians not being a nation, but hey, he needs to start somewhere (number 5 was especially well laid out, with Israel being threatened, after bombing the Syrians, thus having the a-posteriori justification for bombing them in the first place :))))))

"Syria protested to the United Nations on Thursday over an Israeli air strike on its territory and warned of a possible "surprise" response." They then continued "goddammit we just ruined the surprise" and officials stormed out slapping each other in the back of their heads.

Didju see the clip on the news about that? Mohammed's hand got caught in Khalid's turban, he jerked his arm hard which gave Kahlid a sharp pain in the neck which he thought was a poison dart so he pushed the button that he had in his hand in his pocket triggering the bomb under Abdul's turban which merely fizzled burning a hole in the top of his head.Damn, it was funny!

depends on how you define it - most arguments descend into chaos because the starting defintions don't align.

It's tough to claim, for example, that the Irish Republican Army were 'terrorists' but the Irgun and myriad Jewish Zionist militias weren't - yet this is the likely impression of most people. A double standard. The Irish were persecuted in their own fucking country for 800 years.

Moments after getting independence, they apparently didn't do enough to help Jews - lots of articles whining about it.

I've yet to find any evidence that Jews helped Ireland during the famine or any other time. But you see - its a double standard.. Jews and their suffering are special. Ireland somehow failed to save the Jews, but the Jews had no duty, though wealthy in myriad Euro countries, to help anyone outside the tribe. Talmud is very very clear on who to care for - it is not "the nations".

Similarly, though Ireland never ha dcolonies and has a long history of oppression, as someone recently noted, under the administratrive rules of the Jewish guy in charge of various combined ministries, as Irish citizens depart for lack of work, migrants from Africa and Eastrn europe pour in.

Ireland for the Irish would be racist - but Israel for Jews only isn't - even though the Jews came from europe and stole it from the natives in living memory.

If you believe terrorism can be done by an individual, or by a group, there's no compelling reason to think that individuals or groups or cabals in government can't engage in terrorism.

Like Chomsky and Finkelstein, I think Israel not only engages in state terror - only a liar or total idiot could claim otherwise.

This fucking "you're an antisemite" shit has got to stop. I mean, there is an awful lot to criticize about the state of Israel, about the Jewish religion, and about Jewish power. Fuck you, hasbara trolls and low level intelligence agents if you want a double standard - my grand daddies fought Nat-zees, I don't owe you privileged whiny cunts anything but my honesty.

pretty easy to be the schoolyard bully when your 6'4" 250lb big brother has your back. israel was founded using the same acts of "terrorism" as hezbollah is condemned for using today-bombings,assasinations,killing of civilians etc.