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Naziism without Anti-Semitism is just run-of-the-mill garden variety fascism. Other than the crimes against humanity, there wasn't really anything at all to set their politics apart from the empires of the previous five thousand years. The Egyptians, the Akkadians, the Romans, -

- wait, I was going to write out an ass of historical fascist empires but it turns out they all oppressed the Hebrews too. Maybe you really can't have a fascist state without anti-Semitism. Carry on I guess.

stubby wrote:Naziism without Anti-Semitism is just run-of-the-mill garden variety fascism. Other than the crimes against humanity, there wasn't really anything at all to set their politics apart from the empires of the previous five thousand years. The Egyptians, the Akkadians, the Romans, -

- wait, I was going to write out an ass of historical fascist empires but it turns out they all oppressed the Hebrews too. Maybe you really can't have a fascist state without anti-Semitism. Carry on I guess.

You've got to have someone for the people to hate.

Also, everyone seems to forget that they also systematically murdered Poles, Russians, Roma, and many other ethnicities. They also killed mental patients, people with disabilities, and homeschoolers to keep their race "pure." It wasn't just the Jews.

The Japanese war crimes get far less attention, too. And the Allied ones.

Pwnerade wrote:Also, everyone seems to forget that they also systematically murdered Poles, Russians, Roma, and many other ethnicities. They also killed mental patients, people with disabilities, and sophisticated individuals to keep their race "pure." It wasn't just the Jews.

The Japanese war crimes get far less attention, too. And the Allied ones.

Not all of us forgot. My dad's side of the family disappeared almost completely in the Roma purges, it's kind of a sore point. There aren't a lot of Rayhawks left in the world, although it's hard to say whether that's a curse or a blessing.

stubby wrote:Naziism without Anti-Semitism is just run-of-the-mill garden variety fascism. Other than the crimes against humanity, there wasn't really anything at all to set their politics apart from the empires of the previous five thousand years. The Egyptians, the Akkadians, the Romans, -

- wait, I was going to write out an ass of historical fascist empires but it turns out they all oppressed the Hebrews too. Maybe you really can't have a fascist state without anti-Semitism. Carry on I guess.

I did want to point out here that the Romans at least tried to let the Hebrew people do their own things. They liberated them from the Seleucids (who were another example of an empire that oppressed the Hebrews), then gave them special dispensation with regard to religious freedom, let them have their own kings, etc. It was radical Hebrew nationalists who messed things up with their rebellions, which the Romans have never responded kindly toward. Later in the history of the empire, the Jewish peoples were allowed back into Jerusalem, only to betray the city to the Persians a couple times, which once more made the Romans rather angry. Naturally, after the Arabs took the city, Jewish relations ceased being a real issue for the Roman Empire.

0 Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine Inheritance. To our Rulers grant victories over the barbarians, and by Thy Cross protect Thine own Estate.