Altercator wrote:House of Suns by Alastair ReynoldsA forbidden love story between two clones or "shatterlings?" How could they not resist?

If you had some really good scenery, it just might work. Especially Neume and the sky over the Centaurs' worldHesperus in anime form, though? I'm having trouble picturing it. Depends on the style, I suppose

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I so want to see these as movies. But good movies. Like ones for big people, not kids. There are so many ways that they could do it very, very wrong.

I was always a little surprised that they sold those books at our middle-school bookfair, considering the death and destruction and severed hands and stuff. Then again, I bought them there, so they did have an audience.

NEED. TO. SEE. THIS. MOVIE. NOW.

I had a thought a while ago, which was that the people who made Avatar the last Airbender (cartoon, not really an anime tho') should make an adaptation of the Abhorsen series. Actually, it would be cooler if those people got together and made something new.

I'm sort of confused when people say things like "war and death = definitely not for kids". Do you not remember being a kid? (Someone on TV tropes had that idea about the Redwall series, I was outgrowing them by age 11)

"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration." - Abraham Lincoln

Dune. They just recently canceled the live-action film that had been due this following year, and this novel really needs a film adaptation that just goes animated instead of trying to stretch the budget through the special-effects work necessary.

"With kindness comes naïveté. Courage becomes foolhardiness. And dedication has no reward. If you can't accept any of that, you are not fit to be a graduate student."

It's not as well known as some, but The Colors of Space by Marion Zimmer Bradley would be perfect for anime. Colorblind aliens, a young man thrust into a life-or-death situation, and a whole-body cosmetic job.

SlyReaper wrote:Accelerando? It already has a talking cat (and magnificent bastard) in it called "Aineko".

I forgot about that one... or maybe I hadn't read it yet at the time... Either way, definitely a good choice. It's spiritual successor "Glasshouse" would work quite well too. Man in a woman's body, violence, sexual tension, etc.

Gojoe wrote:Well, I would say something here, but it would only make it worse.

I would love to see (not necessarily as anime, but some kind of visual medium) Iain Banks' The Player of Games or Use of Weapons.

I think they would look better as live action though. I would probably like to see Kevin J. Anderson's 'Saga of Seven Suns' as an anime. It's one of those series that's way too big for a movie, and they will never spend enough on making a live action tv style show on it to get it to look nearly as good as it would want to, but it could look really cool as an anime.

nsmjohn wrote:To rerail the conversation: The Takeshi Kovacs novels. Lots of violence and sex treated in a manner that I find somewhat similar to anime and has a fairly decent narrative that ends the way many animes do: life carries on, not everyone lives happily ever after.

Some things should be left as books IMO. The Kovacs trilogy being one of them.

IIRC the film rights for Altered Carbon have already been sold and some turgid MTV generation director is going to make it. I think it's the chap who did the 2 Fast 2 Furious films

I hated the Nights Dawn trilogy. More accurately, I hated the first book because that's all I managed to slog my way through before I gave up. My biggest problem with it was too many characters and too many completely unrelated plot threads. I'd be reading a chapter and following a plot thread, and then the next chapter comes along and carries on an earlier story I've already completely forgotten about. And nothing makes sense because you're assumed to have remembered what was going on earlier. Half the time, I couldn't even remember who was supposed to be who, or if we'd encountered a particular character yet.

SlyReaper wrote:I hated the Nights Dawn trilogy. More accurately, I hated the first book because that's all I managed to slog my way through before I gave up. My biggest problem with it was too many characters and too many completely unrelated plot threads. I'd be reading a chapter and following a plot thread, and then the next chapter comes along and carries on an earlier story I've already completely forgotten about. And nothing makes sense because you're assumed to have remembered what was going on earlier. Half the time, I couldn't even remember who was supposed to be who, or if we'd encountered a particular character yet.

Sounds like an anime right?Although I was more going for the random people from history flinging white fire around the place, and flying ships that look like dragons and giant eagles and stuff.

SlyReaper wrote:I hated the Nights Dawn trilogy. More accurately, I hated the first book because that's all I managed to slog my way through before I gave up. My biggest problem with it was too many characters and too many completely unrelated plot threads. I'd be reading a chapter and following a plot thread, and then the next chapter comes along and carries on an earlier story I've already completely forgotten about. And nothing makes sense because you're assumed to have remembered what was going on earlier. Half the time, I couldn't even remember who was supposed to be who, or if we'd encountered a particular character yet.

Most of the disparate storylines do tie into the 'main' plot fairly well. It just takes 2500 pages for it to happen. But yeah, that's the kind of book I like, with a vast sprawling world, multiple interweaving plots and 20+ main characters. There were a lot of B-plots to establish the effect the events were having on the universe as a whole, though. Most of the Edenist bits, the New California stuff, the Valisk bits and the Kulu empire stuff was just scene-setting fluff really.

All the story really needs to function is Joshua, Quinn, Ione, maybe Louise, and Alkad Mzu. But that's really not the point.

I seem to remember the Dariat/Valisk sub plot being quite important, (and considering I finished reading the last book in 2006 it must have been quite memorable) but I guess if you wanted to turn the 3k+pp trilogy into a 400pp book, or a movie god-forbid,, you're probably right.

Jorpho wrote:

AvatarIII wrote:but how could this thread exist with no mention of Peter F Hamilton, more specifically his Night's Dawn Trilogy

It appears to have been mentioned several times, actually. Unlike Kiln People. Why don't more people love Kiln People? It is such a very awesome book.