So UNC was down in a meaningless practice game that doesn't matter and is mostly used to get a team back in game shape is an indication of how the team is going to be. Got it.

I've heard of grasping for straws, but this is perhaps the biggest I heard this year. As anyone who watches basketball knows, Roy Williams runs a very complex system. It takes time, lots of time, to learn. But once the players learn, the team is much better. That is why UNC finishes strong. Last season: lost to Duke first, then put a beatdown on them at Cameron. 2011 with a freshman PG, lost to Duke first then put a beatdown on them at Chapel Hill. 2010, a Larry &quot;Withdrew&quot; year; you can't fix entitlement mentality. 2006, UNC was having a big rebuilding year with Tyler Hansborough, lost to Duke in Chapel Hill, then upset Duke in Cameron.

Roy Williams is a hall-of-fame coach because he is a teacher. Mark Gottfried had to do color-commentary for a year because of his hall-of-shame actions. And he was such a hot commodity that only his friend would hire him. You'll see the difference between hype and talent; Roy is the talent. You don't win by hype.

This is kind of old news, but didn't UNC ultimately win the game by 27 points?

— Posted by slayerhil

Don't confuse the wusspecker fans with facts that are more relevant than their facts.

— Posted by still heelman1973

When you have had NOTHING for almost 3 decades I guess you have the right to be optimistic! Lets face it, State will be good this year but they were allowed to be the projected favorites when 3 underclassmen decided to turn pro. Success based off of that...........they will take what they can get I guess!

I get it now. You're not saying he was fired. You're saying he is a quitter. He quit on his players. He quit on his fans. He quit on his employer. He quit on his assistant coaches. He quit on his admin assistants. He quit on his community. He quit on his Alma Mater. Quitters quit.So which is it? The harsh truth about getting canned by his alma mater or the harsh technicality described above?

I get it now. You're not saying he was fired. You're saying he is a quitter. He quit on his players. He quit on his fans. He quit on his employer. He quit on his assistant coaches. He quit on his admin assistants. He quit on his community. He quit on his Alma Mater. Quitters quit.So which is it? The harsh truth about getting canned by his alma mater or the harsh technicality described above?

You use every chance you get to remind us about your skills/high income and overall awesomeness in business. Surely such refined experience would allow you to read between the lines when a college basketball coach "resigns" mid-season from his alma mater and receives a $2.2 million buyout.

You use every chance you get to remind us about your skills/high income and overall awesomeness in business. Surely such refined experience would allow you to read between the lines when a college basketball coach &quot;resigns&quot; mid-season from his alma mater and receives a $2.2 million buyout.

sorry, hinyhurt one... I just read the piece on the main page about how the holes are supposedly a &quot;good defensive team&quot; this year.... and the title of this thread was in there, and jumped out at me.

LOL - Belmont Abbey was within 3 of the annointed national champs NC State with 2 mins left in the half...and trailed by only 7 at halftime.... oh wait maybe Belmont is like Tenn in football they are going to surprise ppl this year...