Indyrod wrote:And you called me a REPUBLICAN???? You have to be kidding.

I think you and I are much more compatibly politically than musically. But coopting the mainstream with a non-mainstream ethos is a muy Rovian tactic.

Indyrod wrote:Criticize all you want about my soundtracks (from critically acclaimed recordings) and my Kylie and Dido affections, but I would not have the guts to put a recording called "Various - Pink Panther's Penthouse Party" on any list anywhere, or let anybody on Earth know I had it. Are you sure "Calvert DeForest" isn't a porn star? I think I've seen about all of your lists I want, thank you................

Calvert DeForest is the real name of the 'actor' who played Larry Bud Melman on the old Letterman show.

And I do have the guts list the Pink Panther's Penthouse Party on because I'm not ashamed of it, and in the context it makes sense. Plus, it's a fun album - it even has Fatboy Slim's 'Weapon of Choice' on it.

p.s. to everyone...yes, it's been a slow day at the office...

The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more fucking punishment in store. Stand it like a man. And give some back.

I think you should have made a shorter list, maybe 12 or so titles, like whathisface suggested. I mean someone could start a thread like this, your 12 favourite influential records blah, blah, blah, but I can't as I have listophobia.

So I guess it goes without saying I don't think many of these artists are "obscure." But this is a King Crimson discussion group, after all, so I don't know how reasonable it is to expect eveyone to have extensive listening experience way outside that genre. If you make a big point of that--I've listened to more than you, so therefore my opinion is better-informed than yours--you're immediately insulting the other person's taste and intelligence. Which is fine if that's your goal, but it doesn't tend to encourage open, courteous discourse. Ultimately you're arguing about taste, anyway, which IMO is a waste of time.

MarkSullivan wrote:Just for kicks, here's my list of things I either own or have owned... So I guess it goes without saying I don't think many of these artists are "obscure."

not bad

MarkSullivan wrote:But this is a King Crimson discussion group, after all, so I don't know how reasonable it is to expect eveyone to have extensive listening experience way outside that genre. If you make a big point of that--I've listened to more than you, so therefore my opinion is better-informed than yours--you're immediately insulting the other person's taste and intelligence.

The point is not to expect everybody to listen to, or enjoy, everything I listen to, but to observe that there is a much broader world out there than English Progressive Rock, and in that context, it may be justifiable to feel that some EPR doesn't hold up all that well. We all know the old saying about opinions, and all I'm saying is that mine is no less puckered than any of the other progholes' around here.

MarkSullivan wrote: Which is fine if that's your goal, but it doesn't tend to encourage open, courteous discourse. Ultimately you're arguing about taste, anyway, which IMO is a waste of time.

Of course you're right.

The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more fucking punishment in store. Stand it like a man. And give some back.

No one was born loving English Progressive Rock, but some way we are here now.

My musical background started with my parents albums: Nat King Cole, popular Classics, movie soundtracks like Ben Hur, pre-muzak (easy listening) by Andre Kostelanetz and Bert Kaempfert; some bossanova and samba-jazz, very popular in the '60s. Ah, they had too Hawaian Sunset by Arthur Lyman.

I started collecting music buying 7" by Alice Cooper, Elton John, Lennon, McCartney (circa 1973~75), then someone presented me Led Zeppelin, then Pink Floyd, then Yes, ELP and King Crimson, and the rest is history... I got into jazz and classics in late '80s when I was able to review my parents records.

From TCA's list, some names are obscure to me, mostly what we would classify as world music. From the known names I think I have about 15 of those titles and 40 other different titles from the same players.

I've noted a penchant for Tom Jobim and it was funny to find anyone beyond David Byrne (you and Mark) that values Tom Ze. <-- JOKE

Y'know what? Some kind of bluegrass mood always seems to come out at this time of year, and I'd had the idea of looking for something vaguely in the vein of Strength in Numbers, so this looks like juuuuust the thing. Funds should allow at the end of the week, so I've got it bookmarked...

The sound of one hand clapping is the same as the sound of a tree falling when no one's around to hear it.