Great info, and just the feedback I was looking for! This is the second suggestion I have heard about scoring the seeds with sandpaper / abrasive. So the aim is to scuff the seam of the seed, to help open it up? Very clever.

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imo: Insert sandpaper to line a cup

drop in seeds

attach lid shake like mad for 1-2 mins

drop seeds to a warm glass of water

with a teaspoon of aloe vera juice or a pinch of dish soap(surfactant)

Soaking FOR SURE works ... with ALL seeds I have done many side by sides in my outside gardens and germination rates are much better and faster.. the seeds I most recently popped, we're opening after only 24 in my well water (no chlorine here) one day in the moist paper towels after that and they were 100% ready! I will always soak my seeds

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the way I pop all my beans and get 90 + % germ rates is by doing this.

Put my seeds in a shot glass of water.. I first mix a gallon of water with superthrive or HB-101 (free samples on their site) ... soak for 24 hours.. then to paper towel and in a baggie. place ontop of satellite DVR box (one corner with hardrive will be real warm) within 48-72 hours I have at the very least a cracked bean if not a tiny root.. then I plant into a solo cup filled with seedling soil. Grow 7 days.. transplant to 1 gallon for 9 days.. transplant to 5 gallon.. go go go go go go .. switch to flowering.

believe it or not ya'll.. and.. I hate to say it.. but... miracle gro's seed starting mix is an excellent product.. its so super light and airy and for some reason makes root growth explode

I think you need to re-read my post , I absolutely agree with everything you said. Soil is the way to go, That being said when I soak a seed in a glass of water I use carbonated water , Even then the risk of drowning is greater. the natural way of doing it is the real way to go. Nature knows her shit BB

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But carbonated water is charged with Co2,,not O2...I've done the ppr towel method for decades.....It works for me....Please do what works for you best!

Soaking FOR SURE works ... with ALL seeds I have done many side by sides in my outside gardens and germination rates are much better and faster.. the seeds I most recently popped, we're opening after only 24 in my well water (no chlorine here) one day in the moist paper towels after that and they were 100% ready! I will always soak my seeds

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Do what works for you! I have never and will never, use the soak! Now that breeders are telling you not to and they won't honor any guarantee if you do....It's an at your own risk thing! I swear it's like folks don't even read what you write!

Great seeds to soak are beet seeds...THOSE are tough to germinate! Cannabis is NOT!

The OP asked for methods to pop OLD seeds....
It's NOT a good idea to do with ANY old seed! They have lost most of their vigor and NEED that o2 to grow beyond the cracking open! They need to help the seedling get past the cotyledon leaves.

I have seeds ready for Root Riots in 24 or less hrs with the ppr towel method....It works for me - I'll do that...

I get tired of giving out information that you can all use.....only to have a bunch of naysayers come back and scream that "IT DOES TOO" or what ever!

Read my post again!
After the "wrong" - You know, the part you didn't see!

I SAID "IT CAN WORK!"

I told you what and why the problem! How to avoid the issue!

I don't give a shit that it's your choice for popping seeds....I just tried to give you some info you surely didn't KNOW!

a dope addict killed him for a couple grand in his wallet. The kid was supposed to be "family" , a 19 year old punk who needed a needle full and i guess saw it as the only way to get it, Fucked up part is he only got to spend about 100 bucks of the cash before the state police nabbed him nodded out in the parking lot of a kmart. now he is doing life at 19 years old.

Do what works for you! I have never and will never, use the soak! Now that breeders are telling you not to and they won't honor any guarantee if you do....It's an at your own risk thing! I swear it's like folks don't even read what you write!

Great seeds to soak are beet seeds...THOSE are tough to germinate! Cannabis is NOT!

The OP asked for methods to pop OLD seeds....
It's NOT a good idea to do with ANY old seed! They have lost most of their vigor and NEED that o2 to grow beyond the cracking open! They need to help the seedling get past the cotyledon leaves.

I have seeds ready for Root Riots in 24 or less hrs with the ppr towel method....It works for me - I'll do that...

I get tired of giving out information that you can all use.....only to have a bunch of naysayers come back and scream that "IT DOES TOO" or what ever!

Read my post again!
After the "wrong" - You know, the part you didn't see!

I SAID "IT CAN WORK!"

I told you what and why the problem! How to avoid the issue!

I don't give a shit that it's your choice for popping seeds....I just tried to give you some info you surely didn't KNOW!

Yeah not a banner day......My UV bulb (Old fashioned) of choice is finally seeing the Federally mandated "phase out with new tech" implemented a few years back! I went to one of my old ops to see if I could find a case of them I had stashed there.......In all the fuss of last years raid....they're gone! Fucking, 1/2 a tank of gas trip across the county and back!

They're much harder to find and the cost has gone up for those you can find!
Now I know how Marines chew concertina wire and piss napalm!

the way I pop all my beans and get 90 + % germ rates is by doing this.

Put my seeds in a shot glass of water.. I first mix a gallon of water with superthrive or HB-101 (free samples on their site) ... soak for 24 hours.. then to paper towel and in a baggie. place ontop of satellite DVR box (one corner with hardrive will be real warm) within 48-72 hours I have at the very least a cracked bean if not a tiny root.. then I plant into a solo cup filled with seedling soil. Grow 7 days.. transplant to 1 gallon for 9 days.. transplant to 5 gallon.. go go go go go go .. switch to flowering.

believe it or not ya'll.. and.. I hate to say it.. but... miracle gro's seed starting mix is an excellent product.. its so super light and airy and for some reason makes root growth explode

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I just use a screen to sift out the fines out of a bag of soil, usually just mid priced Home Depot stuff, then use the sifted soil for popping seeds. But I'll take a look at that MG stuff too, if can avoid sifting soil I will haha. But for popping them I'll put an old seed in water until it sinks then plant them in the sifted soil with a heat mat. If the seed is fresh then I'll just put directly in the heated soil and forget them for a week or so.

I just use a screen to sift out the fines out of a bag of soil, usually just mid priced Home Depot stuff, then use the sifted soil for popping seeds. But I'll take a look at that MG stuff too, if can avoid sifting soil I will haha. But for popping them I'll put an old seed in water until it sinks then plant them in the sifted soil with a heat mat. If the seed is fresh then I'll just put directly in the heated soil and forget them for a week or so.

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Interesting Reply:
I'm experimenting with a much coarser mix this year,

and already many of the germers have failed to live but have dried out ...quick

That link still doesn't work for the journal and I wouldn't mind seeing how this pans out.

I use the sandpaper in the pill jar and gentle shaking for a full minute or more then straight into screened ProMix in 9 hole seed starter pots that sit in a domed tray. Just put 9 beans in a little over 48 hours ago and three are up so it's sitting under fluoros nice and close now.

Trying something a little different this time. I filled the bottom 3/4 of the cups with regular promix hp and promix potting soil that has some nutes in it then topped up the cups with the screened stuff so the seeds are as wet as soaking in water and warm at 75 - 80. Figure they might do a little better if they have some nice loose dirt to dig their roots into that has a bit of food.

I started doing it this way after having trouble getting older beans to sprout in the water soak method that always worked great before.

What the devil? For whatever reason folk can't see my journal entries, all two of them...
This is a link to the second journal entry, which is at the top of the blog list at the moment. Hopefully you all can access it. I can't see any setting to prevent views, must be screwing something else up here...

Still no joy. I was checking for settings on my own journal and can't see any settings to set permissions. I am following you so it's really odd. @sunni might know what's up so if you see this Sunni can you fix it?

I went back into the two journal entries, and checked the view and edit settings at the bottom. I have both boxes ticked to allow comments, and the selection of 'any visitors' to view the entry. This wasn't working, so I've now changed the view options to Members only. Perhaps that will let people see what I am doing; hope so!

Still no joy. I was checking for settings on my own journal and can't see any settings to set permissions. I am following you so it's really odd. @sunni might know what's up so if you see this Sunni can you fix it?

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There's no real fix for these blogs
I wish we would throw them out
Some people have success some don't

I believe both parties need to be following eachother
And you have to set your permissions to members only

The blog feature is not meant to be on xenforo it's a third party intergration that hasn't been updated in like 3 years