The Chinese disdain for Japanese is pretty high these days. A cousin of mine living in China told me during that recent brush-up over the disputed islands between the two countries, anything Japanese just wasn't welcome in his city. Even cars and motorcycles would get vandalized unless the owner would paste a Chinese flag over the Honda or Toyota emblem. Crazy.

He also tells stories about what the school teach their kids about Japan - how the brave Chinese beat back Japanese aggression in WW2 (with no mention of the US) and how Japan begged China not to invade and conquer. Good stuff.

Frozboz:The Chinese disdain for Japanese is pretty high these days. A cousin of mine living in China told me during that recent brush-up over the disputed islands between the two countries, anything Japanese just wasn't welcome in his city. Even cars and motorcycles would get vandalized unless the owner would paste a Chinese flag over the Honda or Toyota emblem. Crazy.

He also tells stories about what the school teach their kids about Japan - how the brave Chinese beat back Japanese aggression in WW2 (with no mention of the US) and how Japan begged China not to invade and conquer. Good stuff.

Did they say the Flying Tigers were really Chinese Tigers sent down by the gods to defeat the imperialistic Japanese? Cause that would be freaking funny seeing tigers flying P-40s.

Frozboz:The Chinese disdain for Japanese is pretty high these days. A cousin of mine living in China told me during that recent brush-up over the disputed islands between the two countries, anything Japanese just wasn't welcome in his city. Even cars and motorcycles would get vandalized unless the owner would paste a Chinese flag over the Honda or Toyota emblem. Crazy.

He also tells stories about what the school teach their kids about Japan - how the brave Chinese beat back Japanese aggression in WW2 (with no mention of the US) and how Japan begged China not to invade and conquer. Good stuff.

Good God! quite the opposite happened, towards the end when the Allies etc were beating the living daylights out of the Axis only the Chinese were actually losing battles and territory to the Japanese. that's how sh*t they were!

Cubicle Jockey:China's belligerence over the South China Sea was the best thing to happen to America's reputation among non-China nations there.

China believes that everything there that is not blatently in other people's territorial waters belongs to China.

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I've always wondered if China thought they were just going to take it all after WW2. Those countries have been at war (I consider the past 30 years a cooling period) with each other for about as long as the middle east.

Meh. Asians hate asians. Big deal. As is reported in the news, there is some crazy levels of nationalism where they riot and destroy Japanese cars and property every few years.

During the time I live in Beijing, people always thought I was everything other than Filipino (guesses were southern Chinese, Thai, Vietnamese). It helps I speak some Mandarin. And even if I told them I was of Filipino descent, people have been always exceptionally nice.

FullMetalPanda:Frozboz: The Chinese disdain for Japanese is pretty high these days. A cousin of mine living in China told me during that recent brush-up over the disputed islands between the two countries, anything Japanese just wasn't welcome in his city. Even cars and motorcycles would get vandalized unless the owner would paste a Chinese flag over the Honda or Toyota emblem. Crazy.

He also tells stories about what the school teach their kids about Japan - how the brave Chinese beat back Japanese aggression in WW2 (with no mention of the US) and how Japan begged China not to invade and conquer. Good stuff.

Did they say the Flying Tigers were really Chinese Tigers sent down by the gods to defeat the imperialistic Japanese? Cause that would be freaking funny seeing tigers flying P-40s.

The Flying Tigers are pretty well respected in China -- IIRC there's an annual essay-writing competition there for students to write letters of thanks to Claire Chennault's family.

Back about 10 years ago, America renamed French fries freedom fries. In some northwestern states you see outright hostility towards Canadians from just across the border in Alberta or Saskatchewan because Canada refused to participate in the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Dickheadeness isn't excluse subby.

indarwinsshadow:Back about 10 years ago, America renamed French fries freedom fries. In some northwestern states you see outright hostility towards Canadians from just across the border in Alberta or Saskatchewan because Canada refused to participate in the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Dickheadeness isn't excluse subby.

Was burning of cars, rioting, and destruction of businesses part of that hostility? Because if not, we're talking pretty significant difference in level of hostility.

Frozboz:The Chinese disdain for Japanese is pretty high these days. A cousin of mine living in China told me during that recent brush-up over the disputed islands between the two countries, anything Japanese just wasn't welcome in his city. Even cars and motorcycles would get vandalized unless the owner would paste a Chinese flag over the Honda or Toyota emblem. Crazy.

He also tells stories about what the school teach their kids about Japan - how the brave Chinese beat back Japanese aggression in WW2 (with no mention of the US) and how Japan begged China not to invade and conquer. Good stuff.

Honestly this wouldn't surprise me. I'm not sure what their story for Hiroshima and Nagasaki is but I wager it reads something like "The Japanese imperialists dogs were fighting so hard against our brave soldiers the Americans were able to slip through and hit them with atomic bombs just as secretly planned."

AverageAmericanGuy:indarwinsshadow: Back about 10 years ago, America renamed French fries freedom fries. In some northwestern states you see outright hostility towards Canadians from just across the border in Alberta or Saskatchewan because Canada refused to participate in the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Dickheadeness isn't excluse subby.

Was burning of cars, rioting, and destruction of businesses part of that hostility? Because if not, we're talking pretty significant difference in level of hostility.

Let me be sure I get this straight: did they ban them from the restaurant or the menu?

Ha! ha! China har-de-har-pwned!

OK, so it's a wee bit racist. But I am an equal-opportunity racist. They're all six of one and half a dozen of the other regardless of race or nationality. You can make the same jokes about almost any race. If this was a Japanese, Korean or Chinese-Canadian-Pizza joint, the joke would be the same.

After World War II there were signs in my native Province of New Brunswick which said: No Englishmen need apply. I wouldn't be surprised if the odd sign turns up that says: No Canadians. And everybody LOVES Canadians, right? eh? Ha. I'm not half so naff.

These signs may have been the Irish tit-for-tat retort to the earlier signs that said: No Irish need apply, or maybe they were just the product of intolerance of immigration. Chances many of the people who put them up were of English descent themselves.

Mind you, the quality of the immigrants may have been low since they were motivated by desperation rather than a desire to become productive Canadians.

Canadian authorities have always been really annoyed by the tendency of the Mother Country to pack up their trouble cases and ship them to the colonies. It's been this way since the days of my pioneer French Canadian ancestors, and then my pioneer English, American, and various other ancestors. They preferred people with farming experience, and so favoured Scandinavians and other hardy (white, Protestant) Europeans to the unemployables of their own races (English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish).

Of course, over time the quality and quantity of immigrants varies and so do the prejudices. Now that farmers are not in great demand, the very immigrants that were most desirable over a century ago might be unwelcome. There are a number of European farmers in my native County--people who could not afford a farm or could not handle the regulations and government control in their native countries.

You can't blame the Netherlands, for example for heavily regulating cattle ranching--the country is below sea level and the soil is basically cow manure and urine with a coating of dust. Farmers have to deal with very strict regulations which increase their costs and responsibilities.

The "over-regulation" makes a lot of economic and ecological sense, but fleeing to Canada or the USA also makes sense, and besides, you can buy a better farm for $500,000 to $2,000,000 than you could get in Europe for many times the cost, if you can buy any land at all. Land is closely held by European peasants, many of whom make a scanty living off two or three acres--often less land than our farmers have as lawns around their houses.

The Netherlands are up to their knees in shiat and can't afford to make any more. Canada is still new and big and shiney, with a lot more rocks and trees than cow shiat, not to mention being a third tundra and ice floes.

Welcome careful farmers! Well, mostly welcome. Most people, most of the time are not chauvinists beyond the dull background level of "patriotism".

Frozboz:The Chinese disdain for Japanese is pretty high these days. A cousin of mine living in China told me during that recent brush-up over the disputed islands between the two countries, anything Japanese just wasn't welcome in his city. Even cars and motorcycles would get vandalized unless the owner would paste a Chinese flag over the Honda or Toyota emblem. Crazy.

yet people don't believe me when I tell them that the Chinese I've met have much more in common with Americans than the British do (I live in the UK, hence the British comparison)

shiat, this reminds me - my wife wants me to go out on my lunch break to pick her up some Chinese food. The tie-in being this particular Chinese place is in the same plaza area as the local "Family Planning" facility.

bedtundy:Cubicle Jockey: China's belligerence over the South China Sea was the best thing to happen to America's reputation among non-China nations there.

China believes that everything there that is not blatently in other people's territorial waters belongs to China.

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I've always wondered if China thought they were just going to take it all after WW2. Those countries have been at war (I consider the past 30 years a cooling period) with each other for about as long as the middle east.

After Japan surrendered, the Chinese resumed their civil war that had been so rudely interrupted in 1936.

doglover:Japanese establishments are much more discreet. They simply ban all foreigners.

No, they just make foreigners carry ID cards which they must carry at all time or be subject to arrest--even if the "foreigners" were born in Japan, speak Japanese, have Japanese names, and look Japanese.

AverageAmericanGuy:indarwinsshadow: Back about 10 years ago, America renamed French fries freedom fries. In some northwestern states you see outright hostility towards Canadians from just across the border in Alberta or Saskatchewan because Canada refused to participate in the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Dickheadeness isn't excluse subby.

Was burning of cars, rioting, and destruction of businesses part of that hostility? Because if not, we're talking pretty significant difference in level of hostility.

No, no it wasn't. Your country and my country doesn't do that kind of crazy sh*t...unless a Stanley Cup is involved.