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Exactly. This isnt the 70's. Any straight thinking person of today is going to assume there are gay sportsmen and athletes. It stands to reason, obviously. Do I need to know who they are? No I don't. I don't want to know any fecking thing about any sportsmans love life. I have zero interest.

I can understand the need to do this decades ago, when the population generally believed no male sportsman could possibly be gay. But, its 20-fecking-13 for fecks sake.

It is important for gay kids to have out role models who can let them know it is alright as well as to see that star athletes they look up to like a Lebron being in support of them. You should try to find an interview or article by John Amaechi where he talks about his work with kids.

There is still a large scale dehumanization campaign against homosexuals going on. While I don't personally care who is or isn't gay or find it shocking that there are gay people in all walks of life that doesn't reflect the importance of it to others.

Exactly. This isnt the 70's. Any straight thinking person of today is going to assume there are gay sportsmen and athletes. It stands to reason, obviously. Do I need to know who they are? No I don't. I don't want to know any fecking thing about any sportsmans love life. I have zero interest.

I can understand the need to do this decades ago, when the population generally believed no male sportsman could possibly be gay. But, its 20-fecking-13 for fecks sake.

I think it's more for their sake. Finally feeling they don't have to keep something which is obviously very important to them supressed. Rather than just wanting to let you know they're gay in case you're interested.

The fact that shit like this still makes headlines, shows that there still is an issue. Highlighting it will be more benificial in the long run than ignoring it is.

It is important for gay kids to have out role models who can let them know it is alright as well as to see that star athletes they look up to like a Lebron being in support of them. You should try to find an interview or article by John Amaechi where he talks about his work with kids.

There is still a large scale dehumanization campaign against homosexuals going on. While I don't personally care who is or isn't gay or find it shocking that there are gay people in all walks of life that doesn't reflect the importance of it to others.

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Originally Posted by orangekoolaid

I think it's more for their sake. Finally feeling they don't have to keep something which is obviously very important to them supressed. Rather than just wanting to let you know they're gay in case you're interested.

The fact that shit like this still makes headlines, shows that there still is an issue. Highlighting it will be more benificial in the long run than ignoring it is.

Good points... but still, theres something fundamentally wrong with an issue being made of the sexuality of sports people. By coming out via the media, it only serves to rile the cavemen who will undoubtedly come out and say something crude about it. We know these cavemen exist and nothing anybody can say or do will stop them from being homophobic. The rest of us ( the majority ) couldn't really care less. So I ask again, what's the point? I can totally understand a sports person coming out to friends and family. I also understand that the media will eventually pick up on it if they do that. But to call press conference specifically to come out?

In truth the best way to battle homophobia is ignore peoples sexuality. It's not even remotely important unless you are actually having sex with the person in question, which none of us are.

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Originally Posted by Soojooko

In truth the best way to battle homophobia is ignore peoples sexuality. It's not even remotely important unless you are actually having sex with the person in question, which none of us are.

... because not talking about homophobia will stop it from existing.

just like they didn't talk about slavery, or child labor, or women voting, or segregation... and all those problems just went away on their own because we didn't deal with them, right?

because no one is trying to make marrying gay people illegal, there's no legal battles in progress right now fighting for marriage equality, and no one in the world thinks being gay is such a sin that they execute homosexual people. so some good global PR is not necessary because no one should be talking about it.... this whole thread is even ruining our "Head in the Sand" Agenda, so we should lock it and everyone should stop discussing it right now!

just like they didn't talk about slavery, or child labor, or women voting, or segregation... and all those problems just went away on their own because we didn't deal with them, right?

because no one is trying to make marrying gay people illegal, there's no legal battles in progress right now fighting for marriage equality, and no one in the world thinks being gay is such a sin that they execute homosexual people. so some good global PR is not necessary because no one should be talking about it.... this whole thread is even ruining our "Head in the Sand" Agenda, so we should lock it and everyone should stop discussing it right now!

king to you, good sir!

Like I said before, this isnt the 70's. The vast majority of civilised people have come to terms with homosexuality. 20 years ago, I remember having a conversation with parents who we're horrified at the thought of having children who might be gay. It's such a rare thing for me to hear now.

I stand by what I said. Sexuality should be irrelevant, especially when we are talking about sports people. Times have changed as far as homosexual acceptance goes. The idiots are in a minority and will generally get hounded by the masses if they try and spout anything homophopic in public.

If you are a gay sportsman, then just do what you want and dont explain yourself. Be openly gay. Go to gay bars. Whatever. Thats how you "come out", not by calling a fecking press conference or via some other media outlet... and theres certainly no need for sports fans to even discuss it. We are talking about sport not sex. Quite frankly, you comparing the need to discuss the sexuality of a gay sportsman living in the civilised west, to the horrors of slavery and child abuse is a load of total rubbish.

Dont be a smartass. Lets have a debate about it without trying to belittle each other.

just like they didn't talk about slavery, or child labor, or women voting, or segregation... and all those problems just went away on their own because we didn't deal with them, right?

because no one is trying to make marrying gay people illegal, there's no legal battles in progress right now fighting for marriage equality, and no one in the world thinks being gay is such a sin that they execute homosexual people. so some good global PR is not necessary because no one should be talking about it.... this whole thread is even ruining our "Head in the Sand" Agenda, so we should lock it and everyone should stop discussing it right now!

king to you, good sir!

Are you really from my favorite place in america boston? if so your stupid post directed at sooj makes me ashamed to see someone from that area be such a flailing clown

I hate this crap, don't announce your sexual orientation to the world everyone should give a shit because when i'm watching football or mma or whatever sport i'm not thinking man I wish that guy/girl was straight. Stop holding press conferences and doing soundbites and just do the sport they pay you for

But it's OK for you to announce that you're anti-gay...?

Ordinarily I would feel sorry for such narrow minded and backward people, but in your case I am willing to make an exception.