[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/phpbb/session.php on line 580: sizeof(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/phpbb/session.php on line 636: sizeof(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4511: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3257)[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4511: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3257)[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4511: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3257)I want to know of any more deaths from scientology - Operation Clambake Message Board

Hello I want to know of any more deaths that scientology caused by people not getting to take the medication that was needed to keep them heathy and well . I know of the guy that stabbed his mom 77 times on LRons bday. The 17 days of lisa mcphersons death and how the cult settled out of court cause they were wrong. Please write any others you know of thanks everyone.

This is my own opinion. I'd rather die speaking the truth about the harms of the cult of scientology than hide and be afraid.
http://www.lermanet.com/tomgorman/jeffreyquiros.htm

> Flo Miller, David Miscavige's mother-in-law died of several gunshot wounds after she reportedly had an argument with him

>James Stewart , OT III Class VII auditor, jumped to his death. He was executive director of the Durban Org.

> A woman from Switzerland jumped to her death while going through OT levels in Clearwater. Several people were sent to RPF

>John Colletto became psychoitc and sucidal while on OT III in 1979. He shot his wife to death and later killed himself. This occured in front of ASHO in LA.

>David Sandweiss was murdered after refusing to commit suicide by orders from the GO (R2-45).

>A woman "drowned" in a bathtub at Flag

>A girl on Hubbard's Sea Org back in the 60's "shot herself", which is odd since Hubbard was the only one on the ship with guns (That one's in A Piece of Blue Sky, I think).

>And the list goes on and on.

"[If] anyone wants a monopoly on Dianetics, be assured that he wants it for reasons which have to do not with dianetics but with profit." —Dianetics by L.Ron Hubbard..who made $640 million dollars from Dianetics. Just a Coincidence.

Susan Meister, a twenty-three-year-old from Colorado, had joined the crew of the Apollo in February 1971, having been introduced to Scientology by friends while she was working in San Francisco. When she arrived on the ship she was a typically eager and optimistic convert and wrote home frequently, urging her family to 'get into' Scientology. 'I just had an auditing session,' she wrote on 5 May. 'I feel great, great, great and my life is expanding, expanding and it's all Scientology. Hurry up! Hurry, hurry. Be a friend to yourselves - get into this stuff now. It's more precious than gold, it's the best thing that's ever ever ever ever come along. Love, Susan.'

By the time of her next letter, on 15 June, the Commodore's conspiracy theories had clearly made an impression. 'I can't tell you exactly where we are. We have enemies who . . . do not wish to see us succeed in restoring freedom and self-determination to this planet's people. If these people were to find out where we were located they would attempt to destroy us . . .'

Ten days later, when the Apollo was docked in the Moroccan port of
Safi, Susan Meister locked herself in a cabin, put a .22 target revolver to her forehead and pulled the trigger. She was found at 7.35 pm lying across a bunk, wearing the dress her mother had sent her for her birthday, with her arms crossed and the revolver on her chest. A suicide note was on the floor.

Local police were called, but the death of an American citizen inevitably alerted US consular officials and exposed the Apollo to the kind of attention that Hubbard had been trying to avoid for years. Following the Commodore's oft-repeated doctrine, the Sea Org went on to the attack. Susan Meister, who had seemed a rather quiet and reserved young woman to her friends, was portrayed as an unstable former drug addict who had made previous attempts at suicide; Peter Warren, the Apollo's port Captain, hinted that compromising photographs of her had been found.

These smear tactics were soon extended to embrace William Galbraith, the US vice-consul in Casablanca, who had driven to Safi to make inquiries into the incident. On 13 July, he had lunch with Warren and Joni Chiriasi, another member of the crew, at the Sidi Bouzid restaurant in Safi before being taken to look round the ship. Afterwards, Warren and Chiriasi both signed affidavits accusing Galbraith of threatening the ship - 'He said that if the ship became an embarrassment to the United States, Nixon would order the CIA to sink or sabotage it.' Galbraith also allegedly referred to the Church of Scientology as a 'bunch of kooks' and speculated that the ship was being used as a brothel or a casino or for drug-trafficking.

Next day, Norman Starkey, captain of the Apollo, forwarded copies of the affidavits to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in Washington, with a covering letter complaining that Galbraith had threatened 'to murder the vessel's company of 380 men, women and children, many of whom are Americans'. Letters were also sent to John Mitchell, the Attorney General, and to the Secret Service, all with copies to President Nixon, who was yet to be engulfed by Watergate.

A few days later, Susan Meister's father arrived in Casablanca to investigate his daughter's death but found it impossible to make headway with the disinterested Moroccan authorities, who were somewhat more concerned with a recent attempted coup d'état than a lone American making inquiries about his daughter. Meister, who refused to believe that Susan had committed suicide, could not even discover where her body was being kept and in desperation he turned to L. Ron Hubbard for help.

He later wrote a dispiriting account of his visit to the ship, escorted by Peter Warren: 'Passing the guarded gates into the port compound, we had our first look at Hubbard's ship Apollo. It appeared to be old

and as we boarded it, the girls manning the deck gave us a hand salute. All were dressed in work-type clothing of civilian origin. Most appeared to be young. Upon boarding, we were shown the stern of the ship, which was used as a reading-room, with several people sitting in chairs reading books. The mention of Susan seemed to meet with disapproval from those on board . . . we were shown where Susan's quarters were in the stern of the ship below decks where it appeared fifty or so people were sleeping on shelf-type bunks. Susan's letter had mentioned she shared a cabin all the way forward with one other person. Next we were shown the cabin next to the pilot house on the bridge where the alleged suicide had taken place . . . We were not allowed to see any more of the ship. I requested an interview with Hubbard as he was then on board. Warren said he would ask. He returned in about half an hour and said Hubbard had declined to see me.'

After his return to America, Meister discovered to his anger and astonishment that his daughter had been buried even before he arrived in Morocco. He arranged to have the body exhumed and returned to the United States, but before the remains of Susan Meister were put to rest, a final dirty trick was played: Meister's local health authority in Colorado received an anonymous letter warning of a cholera epidemic in Morocco that had so far caused two or three hundred deaths. 'It's been brought to my attention,' wrote the poison pen, 'that the daughter of one George Meister died in Morocco, either by accident or cholera, probably the latter.'[12]

>And the list goes on and on.

There's also "The Unfunny Truth about Scientology," a video on youtube. However, I think d1684 might have covered all of the deaths that are detailed there.

What someone should do is compile all the mysterious deaths (Which would include Elron's), suicides, and murders connected to Co$ and call it "The Scientology Book of The Dead".

"[If] anyone wants a monopoly on Dianetics, be assured that he wants it for reasons which have to do not with dianetics but with profit." —Dianetics by L.Ron Hubbard..who made $640 million dollars from Dianetics. Just a Coincidence.

I recently read "Stolen Lives: Twenty Years in a Desert Jail" by Malika Oufkir, her father was General Oufkir who was executed during the turmoil that was going on in Morocco at the time Hubbard brought the ship there and tried to meddle in politics, offering his "lie detector/e-meter" to identify those unloyal to the King. This is also when and where Susan Meister supposedly commited suicide. I think there is more to Susans story and I hope someone who was there at the time will tell what really happened.

Looking at it from a historical perspective; it was incredibly irresponsible and totally insane for L. Ron Hubbard to take a rusty old ship full of inexperienced young men, women and children to such a dangerous place. It would be todays equivalent of taking a ship of kids to Somalia to recruit the pirates.

"Fools rush in where Angels fear to tread."

[i]"There is nothing as wild in the books of Man as will probably happen here on Earth...it will happen and be allowed to happen simply because all this is so incredible that nobody will even think of stopping it until it is far, far too late"~LRH[/i]

I knew of Greg Bashaw, but had not read such a detailed account. Unfortunately, this seems to be all too familiar from so many different people.

I met a man, or should I say he approached me, as if he knew who I was, at one of the pickets in London, we didn't speak for long, but he told me a similar tale about his brother. I never got a name and I have have never seen him since, but he seemed sincere and also nervous of scientology.

This is very tragic.

Look at our brokenness.
We know that in all Creation
Only the human family
Has strayed from the sacred way.

Teach us love,compassion,honour
That we may heal the earth
And heal each other.(part of an Ojibway prayer)

Welcome, RobertPaug. Get two more posts approved and you can be a regular poster.
The IRS is perfectly empowered to grant or deny charity status, and judges and juries are empowered to judge guilt or innocence in a wrongful death. The legislature and executive branch in the US would only get involved to approve or deny budget handouts to "faith-based charities," to regulate the e-meter's obvious medical effects, and to prevent false advertising.

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