I appreciate that, and actually I posted at Seahawks.net for over 15 years, however, the place has turned into a steaming pile IMO, and I found this place which is way smaller, hence a LOT less arguing, name calling and all the juvenile insult that randomly get thrown around over there. There are a small group of excellent posters there however.

Most of the people I know from there moved on long ago, I was still one of the original "good ole boys" that still hung on, but I simply am done with that site. I will read but not post there anymore.

Largent80 wrote:I appreciate that, and actually I posted at Seahawks.net for over 15 years, however, the place has turned into a steaming pile IMO, and I found this place which is way smaller, hence a LOT less arguing, name calling and all the juvenile insult that randomly get thrown around over there. There are a small group of excellent posters there however.

Most of the people I know from there moved on long ago, I was still one of the original "good ole boys" that still hung on, but I simply am done with that site. I will read but not post there anymore.

We can get pretty rough with each other in here, too, but there's not much name calling. What I like about this place is that it's small enough to where I almost always get a response to my posts. At .net, there's too much traffic and I get the impression that my comments get swept away with the current. I also like the simplicity of the Shack vs. .net, where everyone has to have a catchy cliché, multiple quotes in replies make for very long strings in a post, etc. There's too much clutter. But there are some really good football minds over there, so when this place slows down, I'll poke my head in there.

The mods here, Yoder and Mak, are fantastic, seldom post themselves and as such maintain their neutrality. They're like a good referee, you don't notice them.

RiverDog wrote:Eee gads, that's hot! But at least it's dry heat. I'd much rather endure triple digit temperatures and low humidity than 90 degree temps and 90% rh any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Um, "here" is Kentucky, relative humidity is 77% ...

And while you may well understand heat indices living on the gulf Houston's heat index for today is a full 20° lower than here in Paducah.

And while you may well understand heat indices living on the gulf Houston's heat index for today is a full 20° lower than here in Paducah.

Sorry, I thought you were still living in Utah.

It's been relatively mild here in E. Washington this summer. Last night when I got home from work, the temp was in the mid 50's. That's very unusual for the 3rd week of July when you're only 500' above sea level.

It's been relatively mild here in E. Washington this summer. Last night when I got home from work, the temp was in the mid 50's. That's very unusual for the 3rd week of July when you're only 500' above sea level.

No worries. But gosh, Utah was bask in the very early PI days ... I moved to Colorado in 2000 then here to KY in 2010.

I sure do wish I were back west somewhere though, it can be downright hard to breath down here in the summer. Even at 110° Colorado air is breathable.

Largent80 wrote:I used to go to the Cheney training camps, Brutally hot, but not humid.

Yep, me, too. I can remember Joe Steele scoring a TD in a scrimmage.

And talking about the brutally hot conditions, Jack Patera didn't allow water breaks. What utter insanity! Even back then, my coaches at all levels knew the importance of drinking plenty of fluids. I don't know how that ever escaped Patera's mind.

Old but Slow wrote:Nor did I, but i remember the heat and the interesting round dorms at EWU. And the great attitude of the fans and the team. Good times.

Pierce and Dressler Halls. We called them the grain silos. I am a graduate of the first 'EWU' class, in the fall of 1977. Prior to then we were EWSC.

I saw one of the first ever training camps in 1976. You talk about fights and name calling, racial epithets being hurled! Every single player was fighting for a job, and there wasn't a core group of veterans to keep players focused on team goals. It was like a giant pickup basketball game, with not very many players knowing or at least having played together.

Unlike the expansion teams that followed after the advent of free agency, teams like Carolina could become very good relatively quickly. The Hawks had to "pay their dues", so to speak, and build an NFL caliber team with other team's rejects. How many games did Tampa Bay lose before winning their first? I think they went 2+ seasons before they finally put a crooked number in the W column.

As many of you know, I live in central California where temps can be 105-112 pretty regularly during the summer months. It does drag on and can get unbearable after like day 10 ot so of 105+Degrees. The hottest I've ever been, however, was in rural Illinois where it was 90+ degrees & 90% humidity. I really thought I could die in that s***. I couldn't breathe.

I'm in Hawaii presently, so I doubt too many of you will feel too bad for me. It was 85 today and I'm listening to the waves crash as I type. T/C will be underway by the time I get home...YAY! Go Hawks

Hawk Sista wrote:As many of you know, I live in central California where temps can be 105-112 pretty regularly during the summer months. It does drag on and can get unbearable after like day 10 ot so of 105+Degrees. The hottest I've ever been, however, was in rural Illinois where it was 90+ degrees & 90% humidity. I really thought I could die in that s***. I couldn't breathe.

I'm in Hawaii presently, so I doubt too many of you will feel too bad for me. It was 85 today and I'm listening to the waves crash as I type. T/C will be underway by the time I get home...YAY! Go Hawks

Aw, screw you!!!

Actually, outside of the crashing waves...well, I do have a water feature a few feet from me....the climate today in E. Washington isn't a lot different than your locale. I don't think we hit 90 today. I'm even burning a fire in my outdoor fireplace.

Can someone tell me why the hawks start camp later than most of the other teams? I know a number of teams are ongoing right now. Are we still on the NFL spanking list? or maybe we are so good we need less practice LOL

Uppercut wrote:Can someone tell me why the hawks start camp later than most of the other teams? I know a number of teams are ongoing right now. Are we still on the NFL spanking list? or maybe we are so good we need less practice LOL

I don't think we are under some type of sanction, but I might be wrong.I also think that there are a maximum number of training camp days permitted in this CBA and if other teams start earlier, they may have to have more days off.But I have to agree that it is difficult to hear about other teams starting TC earlier than us knowing we have some heavy hauling to do in some areas.

Looking around the NFC West it appears to my that there will be 3 teams with racehorse offenses and two with bright young coaches that will think out of the box. Rams and Niners will surprise many. Seahawks look like some old wore out mule.

Looking around the NFC West it appears to my that there will be 3 teams with racehorse offenses and two with bright young coaches that will think out of the box. Rams and Niners will surprise many. Seahawks look like some old wore out mule.