With an accomplice ( mall PR ).
I think the photog did a very good job and I hope his arm injury isn't too bad. And maybe he can invite us all over for a drink when he shows us his new car!!
Sounds like the station is going about it the right way too.
Be careful out there,
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The cop was in the wrong and needs to be punished, but this does not meen the Photog will get rich. Just because you were assulted does not equal winning the lotto. He must have serious injuries to get any money and it does not seem like he does.

We need to focus on the wrong doings of the cop, and how we can educate cops.

Just my two cents.

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We need to focus on the wrong doings of the cop, and how we can educate cops.

We can educate them by suing them.

In my experience, cops generally are not interested in an education in this area, because what they learn runs counter to what they WANT to be true. They WANT to be able to tell a photog to turn off his camera. They DON'T want to recognize that they don't have that authority.

Just as you won't teach a kid in school algebra if he's hell bent on stopping his ears and refusing to learn it, you won't teach cops anything they don't want to learn. You have to make them learn it, by making their understanding of it part of the conditions for keeping their jobs. While they still may not like it, if they understand that they'll likely get reprimanded if they cost the city thousands of dollars, they may think twice before wrenching a camera from a guy's shoulder or smacking somebody's lens.

He must have serious injuries to get any money and it does not seem like he does.

There's emotional injuries. If he sees or encounters that cop or any other cop again, who knows what might happen to this guy's psyche...he might be afraid of all cops from now on. What's to stop the cop's buddies from pulling the guy over in his private car and hasseling him or giving him a ticket for no reason at all or worse - the cop shoots this guy dead and plants a gun in this guy's hand. Think it can't happen? Watch the movie "An Innocent Man", sure the movie is fiction, but I'll bet something like that has happened before.

I don't think you'll need serious physical injuries, emotional damage can be just as tramatic.

Oh, I get it. No big deal -- exactly like your off-topic responses! Yes, I agree.

Yawn.

Back on-topic:

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Originally Posted by cameradog

In my experience, cops generally are not interested in an education in this area, because what they learn runs counter to what they WANT to be true. They WANT to be able to tell a photog to turn off his camera. They DON'T want to recognize that they don't have that authority.

I've never had that problem with cops. Save a few that've really helped us out on scenes, I leave them to their business, they leave me to mine.

In your case, it doesn't sound like it's the cops who need the classes. Why are you so intent on claiming each and every cop is intent on making your professional life as difficult as possible? Could it be your stellar attitude?

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...an off-duty Cleveland police officer acting like a rookie Rent A Cop. What is it about shoppping malls that sends certain law enforcement types into a lens-hating frenzy? Is it the brackish lighting? The snotty Goth kids? Those haughty mannequins? Whatever the cause, something is overstimulating sworn officers to the point of parody.
Here's hoping the city of Cleveland will educate the uniformed goon in question as to where his jurisdiction ends and his inexcusable boorishness begins. Schmuck...

There's emotional injuries. If he sees or encounters that cop or any other cop again, who knows what might happen to this guy's psyche...he might be afraid of all cops from now on. What's to stop the cop's buddies from pulling the guy over in his private car and hasseling him or giving him a ticket for no reason at all or worse - the cop shoots this guy dead and plants a gun in this guy's hand. Think it can't happen? Watch the movie "An Innocent Man", sure the movie is fiction, but I'll bet something like that has happened before.

I don't think you'll need serious physical injuries, emotional damage can be just as tramatic.

Warren

All I am saying is you don’t get much in the line of emotional suffering. Take it from a person who is in the mist of a lawsuit involving traumatic and permanent injuries. Judges will not award much if anything to a person claiming emotional injuries.

A lawsuit may teach the cop a lesson but that’s all it will do.

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In your case, it doesn't sound like it's the cops who need the classes. Why are you so intent on claiming each and every cop is intent on making your professional life as difficult as possible? Could it be your stellar attitude?

And that is on topic...

The station should be able to sue the department for damages against the camera. The photog could try but with apparent minor injuries might not be worth it.