291 yards given up today; that's the lowest all season. The past three games, we have seen steady improvement since Allen has been in charge. I think it's safe to say that Ryan was one of the major reasons for the horrid showings...

I think Rob had a lot to do with it, but I'm not at all convinced that Allen is the answer. I'm not a fan of either of those guys. We were better today, but even in the other year that we were setting records for defensive futility, we managed to shut out the Bucs late in the year. They had a good game or two under Rob early in the year, also. So you never can tell from a game here and there.

We've had two major problems with defensive coaches. One was Rob confusing his players with overly complicated schemes, and the other is the problem we've had forever... Old coaches who don't develop young players. The vast majority of good players we've had on defense over the last decade have come from somewhere else. Vilma, Fujita, Mckenzie, Greer, Sharper, Lewis, etc. We've had very few home grown successes.

I just want to see someone, anyone, who can teach technique and discipline. Scheme's are overrated. Give me good players, with proper coaching.

Yeah, as for Wilson... He needs to find something else to do, after that crap show he put on today. Not only did he commit two personal fouls within 4 plays, but neither were even close. He was blatantly late on both. If I had been on the field with him I would have pulled his helmet off and hit him with it. That kind of thing is more than stupid. It's flat out selfish. "Look at me, I'm bad mf'er. I'm gonna announce my presence with a completely unnecessary hit, because I can".

The defence has got better over the last couple of games but there is still a long way to go before we even think of saying the Saints now have a good defence.

Also, as has already been said, the dumb, stupid penalties that the D are committing are so annoying to see. It must drive SP mad when we just think we've stopped the opposition on 3rd down and then a flag hits the turf and we give them a 15 yard/10 yard/5 yard penalty and its 1st and 10 again!!!