I am sure that some people were disappointed, we did not spend the entire 90 minutes on Haleigh Cummings. Wake up folks! Haleigh is just a symptom. The disease is much larger.

We do our best to bring the very latest ‘credible’ news on the case, but spending 90 minutes talking about the 8 hours of DVD jail tapes released last week seemed a pointless excursion. We have made them all available, and un-edited for your listening pleasure, I leave it up to the listener and reader to draw their own conclusions.

Oh I am sure that I have missed a few, but I am equally sure that most readers have already listened to them.

Our Guests today were Denny Griffin, or as he likes to be known ‘The Crime Doctor’. Denny always amazes me, he listens, computes, and then offers a well thought out and rational question (or five)!

Deliliah Jones is the voice for the missing and abused. She is the creator and administrator of the victim’s rights and crime survivors blog, “Time’s Up!” and is also the Owner of ImaginePublicity.

Our final guest was Jaemi Levine, she is the Founder and President of Mothers Against Predators.Â In part her resume reads…Technology in our digital world is impacting the lives of our children and we must be prepared to create a safer environment..Â Jaemi is currently running for a position on the Broward County School Board, District 4, which is the 6th largest district in the country.

With an illustrious band of folks like this, I knew that there was little that Jan or I could do to narrow down the conversation to just the Haleigh Cummings and Caylee Anthony cases. In fact, why would we?

Haleigh and Caylee have grabbed the countries attention. But, these are just two examples in an ocean of missing, abused, and dead children.

Everyone cries ‘foul’ when some sad story makes it to the press. A little child missing, how awful!

Child abuse, child neglect, and child endangerment are what we here in the press, but, they only ever talk about one case. The Caylee Anthony case caught the media’s attention. But, she is just one of thousands of cases.

Off and on, the search for Haleigh Cummings has hit the press. While I am no big fan of Nancy Grace, I do have to thank her for keeping the story alive. Often the news is old and secondhand, but, at least she tries.

The real issue is not Caylee or Haleigh, but the thousands of other cases that no-one seems to care about.

Caylee is dead, there is nothing that can be done to bring her back. The best we can hope for is that justice is served. That may, or may not happen.

Haleigh is missing, unfortunately she has been missing for such a long time that one has to wonder about her situation. Is she alive or dead? There are more suspects than an Agatha Christie novel. I even have a title for the bookÂ ‘Murder On The Oxycontin Express’.

It was a great program, if you missed it, you can listen to the recording here.

Well,Jan and Simon.if you did you’d just be repeating yourselves over and over,Its hard to find something knew when all we know is they’re in jail and Haleighs not home and doesn’t look as if she will anytime soon either.I apprecaiate what you do!

CathyJo63 said,

in April 11th, 2010 at 8:10 pm

BB in a few gotta run to store!I am beat,had company this weekend,lol bbs

Tuff Stuff said,

in April 11th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

Thank you to Simon, Jan, Denny, and todays additional guests, Deliliah Jones and Jaemi Levine.
The show was very enlightening and informative.

I also appreciate your dedicated efforts to educate the public about these very serious issues so again, thank you.

OJ's glove said,

in April 11th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

thank you simon and jan, your work is very appreciated.

tlk said,

in April 11th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

Thank you, Simon, and Jan for a Great show.

I wasn’t a bit dissapointed. In fact, I think it was very enlightning and informative!

I agree with your guest. I think a Response Team within our school systems is a brilliant idea.

I believe it’s past time, for a positive change to be made, in how our country supports and protects the wellfare of our children. It most certainly takes a village to bring up healthy, happy, educated and well balanced children. It takes a villiage to help keep them safe, free from the terrors of abuse, neglect and senseless tragedies. It’s time for our leaders to stop, look and listen to what the villages have tried to show and tell to no avail. It’s time they took a good hard look at the facts and details of one of America’s most tragic failures, the well being and saftey of our children. If something doesn’t change, our future will change it for us! Elected officials of today will also reap the benefits of change… sooner or later!

Jan, I was quite surprised to hear the details of your attack. It sounds as if it is a wound that has never healed, like a scab that’s picked or something. I’m very sorry your life was messed up by the bigshot VIP and the cops. (sincere, btw)

Thank you Simon and Jan. I am always grateful for all you do. I miss TJ and Cobra but completly understand why they aren’t on. Denny is just the best, to the point, a kind person. Smart as a whip! The “Crime Doctor”!

Yes i agree that LE haSNT handled the child case well,the one who has been missing a few days.The moment she went missing,a amber alert should have been in place,an run right then.Who could really say that this child hasnt been abducted.,She sure hasnt been found,as of yet.A lot of times LE is the blame for how the first 24/72 hrs are handled.The most important time after a crime.Or someone goes missing.But they wate.

Gabriel didnt get a amber alert right off,an he may have been found before his bio mom,did what ever to him.LE waste to much time,they should jump on a missing child the min.its reported,an uses every know way to find them.Amber alerts,major searches,an every thing thats possibe,an avalible,even if she winds u being found at a good neighbors neighbors home,i find nothing a waste when looking for a chid..(im speaking about any child)

Dreamfinder said,

in April 12th, 2010 at 5:09 am

Wonderful show and I enjoyed listening. I was surprised and proud of Jan for telling her story. It shows how far we’ve come while not as far as we’d like, things are better than back then when a child goes missing. Today that man wouldn’t have gotten away with it. That wife of his either, she’s just as big a kidnapper as the man. May God seek his revenge for you on them they desearve it. ((Big Hugs))

DramaQueen said,

in April 12th, 2010 at 6:40 am

Another day full of promise and hope and where’s Haleigh? Not here to see the flowers burst into life as another spring season comes upon us, that’s for sure. Not here last weekend to get a basket from the Easter Bunny. Not here to see the ducks and butterflies returning after a long cold winter.

Peace, peeps, peace and prayer and hope, keep it alive.

m2c♥ said,

in April 12th, 2010 at 8:26 am

Gosh, LFlorida, you can’t say anything even remotely nice or sympathetic without taking it back in the next sentence. I’ve never seen anyone quite like you (and that’s not a compliment). EVERY post is insulting to Jan and/or Simon. What the hey are you doing here if you think so little of your hosts? I know you came from another blog. Did they kick you out? Is that why you’re stuck here? If not, please go back. It pains me to see the people who freely give SO much to children and to US get slaps in the face from the likes of you.

Per your comment – April 11th, 2010 at 10:11 pm “Do you vet your guests in advance? Might be a good idea.”. . .

“It sounds as if it is a wound that has never healed, like a scab that’s picked or something.”
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So it’s Jan’s fault it hasn’t healed? God forgive you, LFlorida, if He’s even aware of you anymore.

Oxycontin express,WoW i can tell you some stories.Like the huge DR bust here in North Myrtle Beach yrs back.DR were handing out scripts over the counter,of this powerful drug.My sister was addicted.She was one who was part of the oxycontin law suit.Many even died from the drug!!! the payout was only 75,000 on deaths from it,32 hundred if just addicted,an it helped distroy your life.WTH kind of payoff was that.One DR EVEN SHOT HISELF,ONE RUN OVERSEAS TO HIDE.

It was bad the addiction.When a DR WRITE A SCRIPT FOR PAIN,AN GIVE A DRUG SUCH A oxys that should only be used for terminol illnesses.Then we have a problem.

They shot then introvenusly.Snorted them which is so very dangerious because you get the full effect of the drug,insted of the time release med,an they work off your matabilizem.So when they snorted,or took another an it wasnt removed all they way.WHAM,over dose.

Then we have the Methadone clinic,another Gov way of handing out synthetic opieds.That stuff will also kill you.That works off matabilizum.When a person paid their 11 dollars a day for the liquid dose ,then it would stabilize the person for the day.But God forbid if that person slipped a Oxy on top of the methadone,IT COULD MEAN SUDDEN DEATH.!!

Why because ones system got overloaded,an cause a strong rise in Blood pressure which could cause heart attack,or stroke.Or ones respitory toshut down

Its a know proven fact that these type drugs when used over time,destroys one cencer in the brain.Something that cant be repaired.it doesnt return over time.It works with emotions,an The part of the pleasure zone in ones brain.That why we see so much depression in heavy long term drug users. The happy place,has died,from usage of the drugs,of choice.

They will rob drug stores in open daylight to get an opied.Remember the old opied dens of old,no different when DR are handing the put with out a just reason to.One person im close to, too was on them 5 yrs,an the with drawls to stop using them as pain meds is awful.I remember one dr at the time,just uped,an moved,an those was under pain managment suffering needed help.well he helped me alright!! When he abruptly left,that left many scattering to find DR,an many didnt write,so you were left to fend for your self.There for seeking relief from dealers of this med,paying at that time a dollar a mill wheather 20/40/80/ mill you paid that amount,now its cut in half the pricese,on the street.Some scrips of them run as high a 650 dollars,an 100 for the dr.

The with drawls,are profusly sweating untill heir an bodys soked,but at the same time the persons in heavy chills.sever leg cramps,.severe cramping in stomach,awful lose stomach.Confusion.high blood pressure.even some have heart attacks when with drawing.This last for weeks,even as far as a month or over for some for the complete harsh symptoms to leave.The foggyness,an confusion last for months.Thats why many try to find releaf any way they can.its awful.I think all users of this drug should be weened down,never ever try to go cold turkey.You could die.

In a plain fact,the drug may not show in your urne after 3/7 days but the with drawls linger way past that.

ITS NOT A FUNNY SITUATION,BUT WATCHING PEOPLE SCRAMBLE FOR THE DRUG THAT A DR 9 OUTA 10 TIMES GOT THEM HOOKED ON IS A CRYING SHAME.THE DR WALKS AWAY HEALTHY,WITH MONEY IN HIS BANK ACCOUNT ,AN THE PAITENT IS SOMETIMES LEFT TO SUFFER,AN EVERYONE AROUND THEM SUFFERS ,EVEN IN WATCHING A LOVED ONE GO THROUGH THAT ORDEAL.

But what can be done,because many need pain managment,an those on their death bed surly do!!!! I am one who has to have pain management,because of two serious issuse in my body that cause serious pain,but i always refuse when offered,oxycontin,an i have been offered,many times.But some dont refuse,an some dont even know what they have been given when they take the drug,untill hooked.Oh yes it relieves pain,an even gives one a false sence of wellness,an happyness.BEWARE

JB said,

in April 12th, 2010 at 11:49 am

Just read an article about Misty. Appears she is writing to the Governor because she thinks she’s being treated unfairly in jail. Doesn’t like being segregated from the other prisoners! Well, HELLO? Does she want to get the crap beat out of her by other inmates? They are trying to protect her. Hank also commented saying both he and Misty’s attorney believe she is holding back on what she knows about Haleigh. Hank told her to forget about Ron and not protect him because Ron will NOT protect her. Pretty good read. Link below…you’ll have to take out the spaces though.

I had a patient who because of severe birth defects, was in constant excruciating nerve pain…He was on such a high dose of oxycontin, that the hospital didn’t even have enough in the pharmacy to provide!!!!
Another local hospital had to supply us with their stock, and it was actually transported in a brinks truck!!!

Very sad, because here was someone who really needs the med, and there are so many who just take it to get high.

I remember he told me, “I don’t for the life of me know why anyone would CHOOSE to take this, it’s horrible to have to live your life so dependant on this stuff.”

CathyJo63 said,

in April 12th, 2010 at 5:53 pm

They should only give the strong stuff in the hospital.
Jan,My nephew od’ on methadone,6 months later so did his wide!He was same age as me,…..lol cause i was adopted tho!lol
You can not replace a drug with another.highway to torture….thats why it’s more to do with the mind…..when i used,I couldn’t talk on the phone or go to the store..what a waste of a few yrs!

treece said,

in April 12th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

LFlorida, you get on chat on the Sunday program and pick on Gunny and make fun of a dog who does therapy work and gives so much to so many. You come on here and pick at Jan, a rape victim. Low, low, low. What else do you do, assault children? No wonder you were kicked off of WS. Please go back to what ever rock you crawled out from under.

treece said,

in April 12th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

Simon, I am so disappointed in your first paragraph. I didn’t have to look to see if you or Jan wrote this article, your statement gave it away.
“Haleigh is just a symptom”. NOT TO ME.
Haleigh is a precious, priceless, little 6 year old girl. Haleigh is a daughter that should be loved and cherished and hugged every morning by nurturing parents. Haleigh is a sister that is missed every minute of every day. Haleigh is a beautiful granddaughter that deserves to be priority in their lives. Haleigh is an innocent child that is missing and needs to be found already.

The Real Armando said,

in April 12th, 2010 at 8:29 pm

Treece

get a grip. He meant she’s not th only missing child. Tht theirs a bigger epidemic going on.

I hate to say this but I believe tht Haleigh is no longer with us, and it saddens me to say. With tht being said I am motivated to push in th pursuit of justice for her, and other missing children.

Also…here’s a thought… And y’all can say what u want abt me, trust me I’ll respond, but if Haleigh was not missing none of y’all would even have known who she was.

I wish tht justice for Haleigh is served properly and tht th RIGHT people envolved in her dissapearance are brought to their null reality.

treece said,in April 12th, 2010 at 7:58 pm Simon, I am so disappointed in your first paragraph. I didn’t have to look to see if you or Jan wrote this article, your statement gave it away.
“Haleigh is just a symptom”. NOT TO ME.
Haleigh is a precious, priceless, little 6 year old girl. Haleigh is a daughter that should be loved and cherished and hugged every morning by nurturing parents. Haleigh is a sister that is missed every minute of every day. Haleigh is a beautiful granddaughter that deserves to be priority in their lives. Haleigh is an innocent child that is missing and needs to be found already.
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treece I agree with your every word.

Simon meant what he said to help. My gosh get a grip. His heart is always in the best place for missing children. Why would anyone doubt him?

Native Alien said,

in April 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am

In my opinion, a good place to start dealing with the issue of missing children would be to have a good look at the courts and where they place children. How many of these missing children or children ending up dead is because of the courts placing a child with the wrong parent?

Next, hold people that are responsible for that child accountable. Don’t let them just walk away anymore. That includes mental health professionals that don’t seem to get that they need to speak up when a child is about to be placed in harm’s way.

How about more accountability with Children’s Services, DCFS or whatever title it has? Again these people are often the first line of defense for some children. I understand that they have a job that is thankless, that they are overworked and have a caseload that at times is overwhelming.

I agree Simon, Haleigh is just one in a long list of children that have suffered at the hands of someone that she knew. This is an epidemic and it needs to stop.

m2c♥ said,

in April 13th, 2010 at 8:34 am

While I can give Simon the benefit of the doubt regarding good intentions, I have to say that I do not understand the meaning of “Haleigh is just a symptom. The disease is much larger.”

I guess it depends on what is meant by “disease.” And that is assuming that what happened to her is due to whatever that disease is.

At this moment Haleigh is a missing child. WE DO NOT KNOW what happened to her. So if she was taken by an SO, then I suppose the disease is sexual deviancy/pedophiles. If she was harmed by someone influenced by drugs then I guess the disease is illegal drugs. If she was taken by her bio-mom’s side, then maybe the “disease” is society’s way/laws regarding custody issues. I don’t know. I don’t know what Simon meant. In any case I personally would have preferred Haleigh to be referred to as a victim rather than a symptom.

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