Actually, I have always wondered what would have happened if they had simply rammed the iceberg instead of having it scrape a hole into 2/5ths of the ship.

I speculate you would have buckled isolation sections A and B, lodged yourself on the iceberg, and sat there until help came. I suppose the only other point of concern for me would be to ask what was kept in those two sections.

Remember when YouTube implemented the new layout, and now 60% of the screen is white space? What about when they made it so you couldn't log in with a YouTube username? YouTube almost seems to get off on pissing on their community, but what always happens? We're forced to just deal with it.

YouTube doesn't give a **** about their users, and why would they? They're like the second biggest website on the Internet. If we expect anything to change, there needs to be more of a negative backlash aside from angry comments saying "teh new **** suuucks". Want YouTube to change? It's gonna take a lot, and it starts by not using them.

Users aren't dropping YouTube any time soon.
Websites like YouTube are built to be monopoly - users are going to flock where the content is rich and ever present, and there isn't anyone that's stealing YouTube's throne right now - not even close. That's why Google+ could never overcome Facebook in the first place - social networks are built to be a monopoly as well, and Facebook's got the biggest, strongest hold right now.
Put quite simply - Google's trying to monopolize everything. They already reign supreme in Search Engine, they've got the largest video network by far, they only need to put some elbow grease and try to make the last push into Social Networking.

And to make matters worse, everything we've come to know about the digital world is based on addiction. You will pull out your smart phone and check it constantly because you are addicted to it - and it's designed to hook you just like that.

There may be ways to pushing Google off the pedestal - maybe have several groups of cutting edge programmers, designer, innovators, and business leaders come together and build something absolutely mind blowing (it's how Facebook kicked Myspace off the pedestal). But then the question will arise as to whether or not they'll be so sparing with the monopoly, or whether or not those that take the reins they'll inevitably leave behind.
Either way, it's not going to be as simple as just "stop using it".

I think Facebook is losing some steam though with their constant removal of privacy features among a few other things. But then again people will just say if you want privacy just don't have a Facebook, but that's stupid IMO. Some people just want to be friends with their friends and not be able to be found by a stranger.

One thing that we may take pleasure in is apparently there's a statistic floating around that states the next generation will be less likely to take up Facebook than the previous ones have (e.g. ours and the ones around us). So perhaps that will decide the faith of YouTube and Google+ - a next generation change-up, the same way Yahoo and AOL became shadows of their former empire.

Sooner of later, people will stop complaining once they realize youtube doesn't give a **** . That shan't stop us from showing how disgruntled we are. And moving to a new site takes too much collective effort, and it requires that whatever site has what it takes to do what youtube does. And if there is such a site, it'd take the collaborative effort of all major youtubes to move there and post their videos.. **** i hate that a single company has the power to disgruntle so many people

but why should you have to do that in the first place. the fact of the matter is they have your gmail account and can spam adverts and messages regarding to what you have just watched, and constantly fill up your front page with garbage you have no interest in.

Not gonna lie, Youtube's already been doing that to me for years. It's their site and I don't really care that much about this change. It doesn't really affect me, and it probably won't unless they decide to charge a subscription fee or such.

yea but lots of people feel that to be more invasive, and literally NO ONE uses their +account, google say that its the most downloaded etc because it is mandatory to all android users, but nobody actually uses +. its their way to make it so their stuff that nobody wants to use is forcibly used to access anything else attached to google.

For the last 13 years apples been making users get an apple account, then put in their credit card, to make you download Itunes, so that you can access apple's website, just to use whatever Iproduct you just shelled out hundreds of dollars for.

But Google tells you to make a Google plus account to comment on a video and everyone looses their mind.

quite frankly, I think youtube right now is like "wallmart" from southpark, started off as a cool little shot, evolved into an out of control monster that no one would escape, eventually it will probably be gone and another little site will take its place, then we do it all over again

I like how you all love to bitch about youtube all the time any time there's an update, yet you stilluse the site

For one, I'd like to see any of you run a site that size and be able to keep it up for more than a week, like you know what's best for it. Youtube's been around for a while, I think they have a better idea of what works with the site than you angry little keyboard warriors do.

The fact is that youtube will never crash because they have everyone on the internet tied around their finger. They can do what they want, deal with it. The new format works fine.

IT DOESN"T WORK FINE! That's the problem! Any other format/update didn't **** with anyone, it made the sight clumsier sure when finding **** but the comments weren't messed with, google+ wasn't a thing (and shouldn't be a thing), people had a little more privacy (I stress little cuz NSA bs), I mean **** just watch this video even posters are having trouble with this ******** . The fact Google+ is being shoved down our throats is wrong, how can you defend such a thing? This is a freedom matter and you're just going to roll with it? What if other freedoms are stripped away because of "updates", hell even one of youtube's cofounders hated the new update, what does that tell ya!?

so they can spy one what we're doing easier for NSA, bitch do you not know what's happening here? They're taking AWAY our right to comment privately! **** they've censored comments! That's against every Freedom of Speech law there is! Do YOU want your freedom's taken away? If you do then you're a ******* mindless sheep like everyone else, you're a good anime buddy yusay but don't argue me on this one, I've been a member of youtube for 8 years now and I've never been more pissed as to what they did to that site. I've gotten over their cosmetic changes, cuz that's what they were, cosmetic changes, I was still able to comment, links worked better, I didn't mind the character limit, essentially I had POWER! The only power I have left is just watching videos, I can't do **** now thanks to Google+. This isn't a cosmetic change, this is a full blown hostile takeover. They screwed the pooch worse than when Microsoft tried the no used games policy for the XboxOne, at least THEY reversed that decision, Google isn't.

A freedom matter? As though you popped out of your mother with the right to watch youtube videos? You are given a privilege to watch that content, by Youtube, the Creator of the content, as well as Google. It's actually streamlined the comments section immensely, and I don't have to search through 7 pages to find my ******* comment replies. All content creators have to do to comment and share is link a Google + Page, it doesn't even have to be their personal page for ****** sake.

yeah well I never wanted to share my **** to begin with, people shouldn't know what **** I'm doing unless I actually share it myself (talking about facebook there), in order to comment I need to share it on Google+, I don't want to! **** I hate the new reply system, I understand that the old one took forever to find the original comment, but it was at least easy to see WHY a person replied to another, now it takes me to a whole new page and does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Same with time links, before, it would just fast foward or rewind the video to the time you wanted, now, it makes a new page AND DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Face it everyone including you who defends google on this is ******* retarded and WRONG! I don't often say that to people but this is one ******* exception. Google had no right to do what they did by screwing over MILLIONS of it's users like what they did including me, the only power I have left is to just watch the video. I can't comment without sharing, I can't disconnect my youtube account from Google+ without deleting all of it, they ****** up everything that was fine, worse yet they've actually censored comments bashing them what they did, you know what that is? AGAINST THE LAW! FREEDOM OF SPEECH! AND THEY"RE IMPEDING ON IT! **** google, **** what they did Youtube, and **** people like you who defend them.

It's their site. But I will say this, everytime I've clicked a timestamp in the past few months it has brought up a new tab, also you can untick the share on G+ box. Everyone complains this exact same way every single time a change is made on a site they frequent, if you recall items being added to funnyjunk? Or the change to the frontpage? Or the thumb limiting? Facebook changing to Timeline, etc etc.

those were cosmetic changes the latter, those had no effect on me as I don't go to items, and I've noticed the FP I think had another change where you hover ur mouse and it reveals the title, so the FP doesn't look bad anymore, and I only go on FB for like 5 minutes tops a day to check up on family and a few friends so I don't give a **** about FB. Like I said, those are just cosmetic changes, it's not like they're forcing any **** down your throat like Google is doing with Google+, I never needed or wanted Google+ and yet they're insistent on me having one to the point where I can no longer refuse. It's unethical, you can't just FORCE someone to make an account for a social networking site JUST to access another, this is not a cosmetic change, it's a whole new system, and it sucks! The past changes to Youtube were purely cosmetic, it was still Youtube, now after being a member for about 8 years I think, I no longer have any power like I used to, it's like SOPA passed man, the Internet is trying to control us like the sheep we are. When the day comes when the Internet is regulated like TV where no one can swear anymore or only regional **** can be posted (meaning no anime with english subs and japanese voice acting), that's the day I abandon any technology, technology is supposed to make our lives easier, not more troubling and piss worthy.

They are following the route of an all inclusive system, I have a feeling Google Plus and Youtube might...merge in a way. And that isn't necessarily the worst thing. Just give it some time, I'm sure you will see the amount of convenience the new system offers.

So we're not allowed to get mad at a site because we can't make and manage a site? You don't need to be a coder or web designer to see how ******* retarded of an idea it was to let them post links to viruses, force you to make new accounts, make a SEPARATE account that has all your favorites but none of the subscriptions, and having horrible ways to see conversations and partake in one. I don't want to have to click 18 times to find all the comments replying to each other, and then not be able to reply myself because the reply button only works 40% of the time.

Here's the thing. Corporations never admit they did anything wrong. With a company as large as google, they will never just revert it back, they will try to add in the things people want and make the entire thing even more complicated than it was. People will get used to it, but it will suck.

Well the problem is, the actual effort it would take to do that is impossible. How many youtube users and clients just show videos on their phones? Quickly find something and watch it? People are too casual and the sheer public outcry it would require for them to actually change would take a campaign so massive and expensive that it would vastly outweigh the benefits, since no one would make money on the result. There's just no way to change it. The other thing you have to realize is that the people who change these things don't give a **** , they just look at what kind of benefit they could get and force on the lazy society of middle class casual internet users who don't give enough of a **** to actually change any of it. The amount of people who do care enough will never be enough to tip the scales of the sales department, who, I may add, are known for ******* over the entire rest of the company in any corporate situation. It's not only possible, but likely, that the rest of google hates this goddamn ******** change, but the sales department has ****** it up with another ****** change, and for the matter of people bitching about constant changes, they will simply say 'oh, well, can't please everyone' and change a few small details to shut some people up.

I do feel as though Youtube is headed for a "stock market" style crash. It seems like video output is booming right now, and if **** hits the fan, famous youtubers won't get as many views and thumbs as they do now.

Doubtful. Youtube's got a heavy hold on the video output right now, and also have the most populace as a result. The sad part about this is that the market YouTube deals in has an uncanny rule - the amount of people browsing is proportional to the amount of content (as well as how much of that content holds quality), and the amount of content brought into the site is proportional to the amount of audience that may view it, as they are present within the site. It's a viscous cycle, and Google knows this, that's why they're pushing Google+ with such little care for the backlash because they know it won't amount to anything against them.

I remember the old page design. It was perfect and google had to change it to 'revamp' it or whatever reason they had, and now I can't ******* operate the page without being asked to use my real name or add my cell phone or give them all my money.