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Yeah, exactly. For that matter, *I* just sent an email to the photographer linking them to this thread and the Photobucket. It took about 90 seconds. Cove Creek Photograph can decide how they want to proceed.

That's great. I emailed them BEFORE I posted this thread with screen caps. Just in case the offender decided to remove the pics. Copyright infringement is applicable the moment you post an infringed image. And even if you remove it you're still on the hook for the fees.

So many folks think... "Ok I took them down. No more problem" but that's not correct.

So when I see infringement I screen cap and send it to the photographers. That way they have proof they were infringed even if the images suddenly come down.

Emily

PS: Anyone else find it amusing that the person in question isn't defending themselves with regard to stealing these pics.

"Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all." ~2001 The Princess Diaries

Laurierace....I remember not too long ago Pat Dale was TRASHING you about Promoting your own horse at her coth get together at her farm, and what an awful race trainer you were, and a terrible horseman....funny that you're sticking up for her all of a sudden

Not sure what you mean by promoting my own horse since I have never sold a horse, and she is entitled to her opinion about my abilities in my former career. I am not sticking up for anybody, I just can't believe you can't get the message that you are only hurting yourself with your ridiculous tirade.

Yes Pat Dale...you did tell me Devil was a cribber, and yes you also told me up front...as in before I purchased him that somebody else passed on buying him bc he had a bone cyst that was found on his PPE xrays....I didn't care as Devil is my forever horse-not ever for resale.........big difference.......you never once told me squat about the big greys feet.....nor did I ask....my mistake.....however it's funny or rather ironic that when I first came to you and told about the condition of his feet a few months ago....your response was that whatever issues he's got with his feet I caused them bc I owned him long enough for laminitis to develop...hmm...then your next line of defense was he has "wb" feet and was born that way ....hmm....now after he's been fully vetted and xrays revealed ding ding ding laminitis from a long time ago...before myself or even you owned him...suddenly you concur and agree...and said that the same vet agreed and passed and xray'd him last year by your buyer, and you went and got second and third opinions deeming it a non issue...which it very well might never be....however you didn't feel the need to tell me any of this prior to me buying him???

Why do you think it's okay to continue to trash someone's reputation on a public bulletin board? In your efforts to vindicate yourself you're just ruining YOUR reputation (although the entertainment value is priceless).

I teach digital media at the university level, so I'm well versed in US copyright law for images, video, and audio. Your posts are not news to me. Are they meant to be news to others? You're claiming that you contacted the photographer, so why did you also feel obligated to talk about it here on COTH? If it's meant to be some kind of public PSA about how people should address copyright violations, *then talk about that.* There's no reason to link to pirated images as part of that discussion.

As for "amusing" that nobody is defending themselves, here's three thoughts.

1. Your thread title makes no indication that this thread might be about anyone but you, and although I haven't read this thread super carefully, I'm pretty sure you never mention their screen name or username. So unless this person trawls every single COTH thread to see if it's about them, how would they even know this thread is about them!?

2. Perhaps they know full well that they've committed a crime and don't care to out themselves on COTH.

3. I gather from others on this thread that it's not the first time you've aired grievances against whomever this party is. It takes two to tango and perhaps whomever this other party is decided not to dance this round.

Maybe Concetta is being smart(er than we are giving her credit for). Posting about the subject of a closed thread will probably get this thread closed too. Then the photo stealing thread can slowly fall off page one and be forgotten.

Jeny, the person who this thread is about is posting here ignoring the original subject and bad talking someone else.

1. Your thread title makes no indication that this thread might be about anyone but you, and although I haven't read this thread super carefully, I'm pretty sure you never mention their screen name or username. So unless this person trawls every single COTH thread to see if it's about them, how would they even know this thread is about them!?

This thread outs the OP of the closed thread, by linking her user name to the photobucket account that shows her real first and last name.

The closed thread completely backfired on the OP, who ended up looking nastily vindictive. The accused, by contrast, kept it classy and did not out her.

I agree that the copyright issue did not need to be aired on here, it was just more pile-on for the OP of the previous thread for trying to hurt someone's business on COTH. I don't think 2 wrongs make a right, or that the photos should be a public issue. Though, the OP of the closed thread is not doing herself any favors by coming back and making the same accusations.

1) If I didn't know the original OP (i.e, NOT Xctrygirl) was an adult I would have assumed she was in Middle School. Disgraceful behaviour.

2) Copyrighted Photos have now been removed from site & photographer in question has been contacted by 2 different people who have screenshots of original site. It is now up to the photographer to decide what recourse to take. I personally hope more photographers start taking responsibility for the copyright and making people's lives difficult if they infringe it because really, that is the only way this kind of thing is going to stop happening. We can discuss it until we're blue in the face but people are still going to continue to use pictures illegally unless there are actual consequences for their actions.

Boy, you don't learn do you? I hope this thread insures he is stuck with you forever.

I would hope the horse is not "stuck" with anyone (implying it is not in a good place) that doesn't want it or is revengeful. Now I'm going out to blanket my OTTB that is not perfect, but actually is stuck with me because I loff her to pieces.

By and large Jenny it is news to others that you can't steal proofs to use for your own enjoyment. Anyone who spends enough time on Facebook, Dreamhorse, Equine.com or any photo site can see that people do not understand it's illegal.

Originally Posted by jn4jenny

3. I gather from others on this thread that it's not the first time you've aired grievances against whomever this party is. It takes two to tango and perhaps whomever this other party is decided not to dance this round.

In point of fact I am not one of the original 2 parties involved in the grievance. I have never had an issue with this particular person. Nor have I named her by screen name or real name. (I don't know it or her)

I have been very passionate about defending the rights of photographers. (See a long ago thread where in I outed Eventing Nation for massive copyright infringement a while ago. They have since adopted new practices to work inside the lines of the law)

I have done plenty of PSA's about this topic. And yet it continues. So why not out a thief. If I knew who had walked into my tack room and stolen a saddle and I could prove it and had already reported it to the police, I would in fact warn others who may interact with said person so that they knew the kind of ethics that were at play. That's the same intent here.

~Emily

"Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all." ~2001 The Princess Diaries

In point of fact I am not one of the original 2 parties involved in the grievance. I have never had an issue with this particular person. Nor have I named her by screen name or real name. (I don't know it or her)

Then why get involved and post it here on COTH? If you're really a champion for the Horse Show Photographer, and scouring photobucket and flickr accounts for evil wrong-doers was your sole and altruistic goal, then why not just contact the offender and the photographers and be done with it?

Instead, your behavior is not dissimilar to the behavior of Concetta. You're friendly with Pat, we all know that, and wanted to do some mudslinging in her honor and discredit the discrediter. As someone else said; pretty middle-school-mean-girl if you ask me. Granted, that's just my opinion, but Occam's razor and all...

My theory in life? Don't let the assholes turn you into one of them. Love it, Live it, Don't be a Jackwad.

And people wonder why bullying has become such a problem in America. Here's why... when you defend a friend from an unprovoked attack, you're also called out for being wrong. Lovely.

Pat is a friend. Have I bought a horse from her? No. Have I hung out with her a lot? Sadly no. She's a fellow horsewoman in my immediate area. She got hung out to dry by someone unfairly. Did I condone that attack? No.

I didn't come back guns blazing saying that the attacker was wrong and a this and a that and poo on you. No instead I looked around to see who the attacker was. And in that process I saw that the attacker also was not as ethically clean and dirt free as she had implied.

I have no patience for unfairness and insults or theft. And I will be a loyal and honorable friend and hang tough when you're on the defense. So bring it on. I should be equally ribbed because I showed that another was willing to steal.

It's ok to report a theft but not advise others who could interact with the person that they are a thief. Got it.

~Emily

"Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all." ~2001 The Princess Diaries

As this is a continuation of a previously closed topic, and the issue has been brought to the attention of the photographer involved for him/her to handle, we're closing the thread and won't be hosting further dramatics on the subjects.