David Boder:
[In English] Spool 9-45A and 9-45B. It had some irrelevant material on the start. Possibly in duplication a, um . . . previously used wire was used again. The spool is for the time being 9-45A, containing the . . . interview with a . . . Polish, English-speaking marine, who trains Jewish sailors and fisherman, and 9-45B the beginning of the interview with Mr. Bramson at the ORT school. There is some other irrelevant material on the spool—apparently the apparatus, how it often happened was demonstrated to some visitors at the place of interview before privacy could be obtained with the actual interviewee.

David Boder:
What is your name sir?

[first name unknown] Feneger:
Feneger [?].

David Boder:
Feneger [?].

[first name unknown] Feneger:
Feneger [?]. F . . . F-E—

David Boder:
That's all right. You are a Frenchman?

[first name unknown] Feneger:
No I am Polish.

David Boder:
You are Polish?

[first name unknown] Feneger:
My father was come from of [?] Poland to Berlin. And I lived in Berlin.

[first name unknown] Feneger:
A Palestinian sea-faring organization who works, who works in London and in Palestine and in the United States, in the States and they were formed there, they were formed there the Marine . . .

David Boder:
You are just beginning and the plan is to create a Jewish Marine.

[first name unknown] Feneger:
A Marine, yes.

David Boder:
Well, I think that is very interesting.

David Boder:
This concludes spool 9-45A. An interview with Mr. Fenger in English, an instructor in the new formed—or newly formed—navigation school which had its branches in Paris. It was the Zebulon school. And in France and, I understand even in England. Chicago, November the 14th 1950, Boder. This concludes Spool 9-45A and eh, . . . on another spool we have 9-45B the beginning of the interview with Mr. Bramson in Russian.

ORT.
Acronym for the Russian, Society for Handicrafts and Agricultural Work. Founded in 1880 by Russian Jews, its goal was to promote and develop vocational training in skilled trades and agriculture among Jews. Following the Holocaust, ORT ran programs in Displaced Persons camps and in western European countries, especially in France.