Breiner breaks even on the fees with most of it going to the credit card processing companies. Breiner doesn't charge the PDGA for providing the service and the PDGA doesn't make any money other than they don't have to pay anyone to run the service which Breiner does.

No one is holding gun to the heads of the manufacturers to get their discs approved. PDGA players are less than 1% of all players so the manufacturers could and do bypass the PDGA approval on some discs. If manufacturers pay the fee to get their discs approved, they must feel it's a good business decision to do so. Manufacturers have the option to put the words "PDGA Approved" on a disc. It's not required.

And what I am saying is that they should stop printing it on the disc unless they are getting paid to do so. For some reason I don't think the credit card people charged him $11 for each worlds signup.

Why does the PDGA feel the need to provide such a service? If they are doing it for the ease of the TDs that is nice but it should be included free and part of the PDGA sanctioning.

I just don't like some of the things the PDGA does and this one really bugs me since they are hurting other DG businesses and then they say no Pro tour until real businesses get involved.

Manufacturers don't have to put PDGA Approved on their discs. But they must feel it's worth it to do so. It's already hard enough to tell what some discs are that have custom hot stamps. If anything, companies should be forced to identify their discs on the bottom but that isn't a requirement either, just a suggestion.

The credit fees increase as a percentage so the bigger the entry fee the bigger the credit fee. Ever seen what Ticketmaster charges? Breiner has to pay programmers to set up and maintain the site plus handle phone calls from TDs and players. He's doing it as a service for PDGA TDs because the PDGA asked. If it was profitable, he would have done it long ago before the PDGA asked. It doesn't cost the TDs anything to use the service so I guess it is included free with sanctioning.

I just looked at the registration list, expecting to see 500-600 people signed up. There are only 177 people on the list. Is that right, or are they behind on updating that list? That seems awful low.

I might be remembering this wrong, but wasn't it at the end of February last year when the River City Rumble got canceled and people had to hustle to switch to BGAC because it was almost full? If I remember that right and the list is updated, pre-reg for BGAC is down something like 500 players from this time last year. What's the deal?

Furthur wrote:Either get a lighter one, throw harder, or find a disc with more glide.