Best record in MMA......?

i am just wondering who everyone thinks has the best record in MMA, the catch is im not going by Wins and losses, im going by beating opponents, in other words who has beaten the most good fighters in their career.

what about wandy the king of pride for all those years. and honestly forests list is growing-rampage,shogun,(imo) tito. and of course big nog hes beaten a lot of top guys

mentalcase

11/29/08 9:45:17PM

Posted by aaa9erh8er

what about wandy the king of pride for all those years. and honestly forests list is growing-rampage,shogun,(imo) tito. and of course big nog hes beaten a lot of top guys

wandy racked up a lot of wins in pride cause they fed him plenty of japanies cans, Shungo Oyama, Alexander Otsuka,

Kiyoshi Tamura-(was coming off 3 consecutive losses when he got a title shot, work that out?)

Hiromitsu Kanehara,-(also WTF, went 1-10 after his title shot)

Hidehiko Yoshida,-(royce beat him down hard then wandy did), Ikuhisa Minowa,-(good little submmision fighter but never in wandys league)

haveing said all that wandy did back it up with 2 superb wins over rampage- but was beaten by the first Brazilian he fought in pride, and the first match with hendo should have been a draw

so thats proof wandy was protected in pride- but im not saying he would have lost to good fighter, just he didnt get a chance to fight many top fighter as a champ

EvenFlow

11/29/08 9:54:47PM

Posted by mentalcase

Posted by aaa9erh8er

what about wandy the king of pride for all those years. and honestly forests list is growing-rampage,shogun,(imo) tito. and of course big nog hes beaten a lot of top guys

wandy racked up a lot of wins in pride cause they fed him plenty of japanies cans, Shungo Oyama, Alexander Otsuka,

Kiyoshi Tamura-(was coming off 3 consecutive losses when he got a title shot, work that out?)

Hiromitsu Kanehara,-(also WTF, went 1-10 after his title shot)

Hidehiko Yoshida,-(royce beat him down hard then wandy did), Ikuhisa Minowa,-(good little submmision fighter but never in wandys league)

haveing said all that wandy did back it up with 2 superb wins over rampage- but was beaten by the first Brazilian he fought in pride, and the first match with hendo should have been a draw

so thats proof wandy was protected in pride- but im not saying he would have lost to good fighter, just he didnt get a chance to fight many top fighter as a champ

cmill21

11/29/08 10:00:22PM

I don't know if you should consider him "protected". In Pride they fought up to once a month, theres just not enough top guys to fight when your competeing every month.

mentalcase

11/29/08 10:12:31PM

Posted by EvenFlow

Posted by mentalcase

Posted by aaa9erh8er

what about wandy the king of pride for all those years. and honestly forests list is growing-rampage,shogun,(imo) tito. and of course big nog hes beaten a lot of top guys

wandy racked up a lot of wins in pride cause they fed him plenty of japanies cans, Shungo Oyama, Alexander Otsuka,

Kiyoshi Tamura-(was coming off 3 consecutive losses when he got a title shot, work that out?)

Hiromitsu Kanehara,-(also WTF, went 1-10 after his title shot)

Hidehiko Yoshida,-(royce beat him down hard then wandy did), Ikuhisa Minowa,-(good little submmision fighter but never in wandys league)

haveing said all that wandy did back it up with 2 superb wins over rampage- but was beaten by the first Brazilian he fought in pride, and the first match with hendo should have been a draw

so thats proof wandy was protected in pride- but im not saying he would have lost to good fighter, just he didnt get a chance to fight many top fighter as a champ

is that all you got?! explain to me how im a troll or 1 single inaccuracy in what i just wrote, wait wait, oh yeah thats right u cant

you have no argument u have nothing-what did i offend you cause you like wandy

well guess what so do I- i am not anti wandy, im anti pride bullshit match makeing 3 fights that he destroyed sakuraba and their was going to be a 4th (at pride shockwave 2004)

but never once a rematch with vitor belfort or a fight like thatu would think he would want to avenge a loss like that

im blaming pride not wandy -i like wandy he brings it every time he fight an excellent fighter i have a lot of respect for!

EvenFlow

11/29/08 10:59:28PM

Posted by mentalcase

Posted by EvenFlow

Posted by mentalcase

Posted by aaa9erh8er

what about wandy the king of pride for all those years. and honestly forests list is growing-rampage,shogun,(imo) tito. and of course big nog hes beaten a lot of top guys

wandy racked up a lot of wins in pride cause they fed him plenty of japanies cans, Shungo Oyama, Alexander Otsuka,

Kiyoshi Tamura-(was coming off 3 consecutive losses when he got a title shot, work that out?)

Hiromitsu Kanehara,-(also WTF, went 1-10 after his title shot)

Hidehiko Yoshida,-(royce beat him down hard then wandy did), Ikuhisa Minowa,-(good little submmision fighter but never in wandys league)

haveing said all that wandy did back it up with 2 superb wins over rampage- but was beaten by the first Brazilian he fought in pride, and the first match with hendo should have been a draw

so thats proof wandy was protected in pride- but im not saying he would have lost to good fighter, just he didnt get a chance to fight many top fighter as a champ

is that all you got?! explain to me how im a troll or 1 single inaccuracy in what i just wrote, wait wait, oh yeah thats right u cant

you have no argument u have nothing-what did i offend you cause you like wandy

well guess what so do I- i am not anti wandy, im anti pride bullshit match makeing 3 fights that he destroyed sakuraba and their was going to be a 4th (at pride shockwave 2004)

but never once a rematch with vitor belfort or a fight like thatu would think he would want to avenge a loss like that

im blaming pride not wandy -i like wandy he brings it every time he fight an excellent fighter i have a lot of respect for!

1) At the time many of the fighters he beat were world class, Mezger, Henderson (which was not a draw lol) Saku 3 times, Tamura (who cares if he came off a loss) Yoshida twice, Kondo, Rampage twice, Arona, Fujita. Very competitive fights with Cro Cop twice (loss and draw) and a close fight against Hunt which he couldve won, as well as the Chuck fight where he didnt use strategy at all.

2) Yet you think he was protected in pride because you disregard some of them as good fighters, like I said not a very well thought out, especially when you said the Hendo fight shoulda been a draw.

mentalcase

11/29/08 11:06:36PM

see u got jack shit, u have no argument whatsoeverjust post a stupid comment that makes no sense

im not reponding to this thread anymore, cause id be better off doing this

EvenFlow

11/29/08 11:11:11PM

Posted by mentalcase

see u got jack shit, u have no argument whatsoeverjust post a stupid comment that makes no sense

im not reponding to this thread anymore, cause id be better off doing this

oh man... nevermind

soundboy1

11/29/08 11:25:41PM

well that was exciting!

1.Fedor2.Royce Gracie!3.Forrest

StorminYourman

11/29/08 11:39:25PM

I gotta go with Fedor also on this one

AnDeRsonDaSiLvA

11/29/08 11:40:37PM

..

Mental i suggest you take back what you said about wand.......

seanfu

11/30/08 12:56:00AM

Not sayiing he needs to be a top 3 but I'm surprized no one even mentioned Hughes. I don't like the guy but he was a monster because he cleaned out his division at the time (the only major 170 division).

I don't even want to put a list together really, it's too difficult. There are a lot of great top competitors.

jiujitsufreak74

11/30/08 1:07:47AM

how am i the only one to say Fedor...i'm disappointed

kris_ericson

11/30/08 1:12:20AM

Posted by AnDeRsonDaSiLvA

..

Mental i suggest you take back what you said about wand.......

funniest things ive seen in awhile

kris_ericson

11/30/08 1:15:00AM

Posted by jiujitsufreak74

how am i the only one to say Fedor...i'm disappointed

Second person StorminYourman said it

jiujitsufreak74

11/30/08 1:21:29AM

Posted by kris_ericson

Posted by jiujitsufreak74

how am i the only one to say Fedor...i'm disappointed

Second person StorminYourman said it

well i was the first to say it. then soundboy and then stormin. i just read through it again and realized i was mistaken. even still, i don't get how the TS didn't mention Fedor since he is the obvious answer by far.

man you know you suck when you fought the same guy 3 times, lost each in under a minute, and 2 of the 3 endend different ways in the same time of :41. You also know you suck when the longest you've been in a fight is about 90 seconds

man you know you suck when you fought the same guy 3 times, lost each in under a minute, and 2 of the 3 endend different ways in the same time of :41. You also know you suck when the longest you've been in a fight is about 90 seconds

I got respect for "The Ho Bag" he still gets in there and puts it on the line...

The guy had 31 wins in a row.In between their he had a draw and a no contest.The no contest was originaly a win,but was later changed due to illegal knee strikes.But nevertheless,he finished Mark Kerr in his prime,along with Gary Goodridge and Saku to boot.