This is news? I learned that most american's did not care about religion when they learned that Obama went to that wack job, Reverand Wright's 'church'. Sitting there for who knows how many 'sermons' of that arse hole bashing America. Obama had no problem with that until he was caught.

We've also never had a one-legged left-handed lesbian underwater basketweaver who collects baseball cards and can speed-run Mario 3 in eight minutes either.

What I'm saying here is who gives a shiat? There's an argument to be made that overcoming a real social/economic barrier can make a 'first' historically significant, but being the first just because your group is a socially equal but statistically small minority doesn't mean a goddamned thing.

//In the 50's, sure, might have meant something, but Kennedy's election pretty clearly demonstrated that we're fine with denominational minorities as elected officials.

darkedgefan:This is news? I learned that most american's did not care about religion when they learned that Obama went to that wack job, Reverand Wright's 'church'. Sitting there for who knows how many 'sermons' of that arse hole bashing America. Obama had no problem with that until he was caught.

Considering Romney carried absolutely no southern evangelical states in the primaries, I'd make the argument that Republicans actually do very much care about religion. They just got stuck with a Mormon, so now they pretend not to.

We've also never had a one-legged left-handed lesbian underwater basketweaver who collects baseball cards and can speed-run Mario 3 in eight minutes either.

What I'm saying here is who gives a shiat? There's an argument to be made that overcoming a real social/economic barrier can make a 'first' historically significant, but being the first just because your group is a socially equal but statistically small minority doesn't mean a goddamned thing.

//In the 50's, sure, might have meant something, but Kennedy's election pretty clearly demonstrated that we're fine with denominational minorities as elected officials.

What's that? Every president has been some denomination of Jesus-lover?

Yawn.

// wake me when something interesting happens// and Kennedy's still the only Catholic (/non-Protestant, though I hear there are some technicalities there) of the bunch

darkedgefan:I learned that most american's did not care about religion when they learned that Obama went to that wack job, Reverand Wright's 'church'. Sitting there for who knows how many 'sermons' of that arse hole bashing America

Oh, did you keep count or did you just pull that out of your ass?Let us know when Romney repudiates the golden plates and Joseph Smith and Urim and Thurrim and too much other off the wall beliefs to list here.There's a lot more than magic underwear, that's for sure.

Zerochance:Considering Romney carried absolutely no southern evangelical states in the primaries, I'd make the argument that Republicans actually do very much care about religion. They just got stuck with a Mormon, so now they pretend not to.

The GOP cognitive dissonance machine is cranking so hard at this point I'm worried it'll blow a gasket, after years of the "Jesus Camp" folks in the GOP base talking about how important it was to have a good Christian man like GWB in office, they are faced with either voting for a Democrat (which to many of them would be like casting a ballot for Satan himself) or voting for a guy who is a devout adherent of a church most of them have been told for years, is a pagan or even Satanic Cult.

I've said before, that I believed that the apparent incongruity of the Mormon church doing most of the heavy lifting on Prop 8, which defines marriage as between ONE man and ONE woman, was to ingraitiate themselves with evangelicals and make the prospect of a Mormon as president less scary

FTA: Obama is a Christian but the view that he is Muslim persists almost four years into his presidency, with 17 percent of voters saying he is Muslim. Forty-nine percent say he is Christian, down from 55 percent near the end of his 2008 campaign, and 31 percent say they do not know Obama's religion.

How is this possible? I understand willful ignorance and intentional misrepresentation, but 48% are either wrong or have no idea what religion Obama claims, that's kind of crazy, really.

I mean I don't think he's really a "christian" either (at least I hope), but I certainly know what his stated faith is.

Magorn:Zerochance: Considering Romney carried absolutely no southern evangelical states in the primaries, I'd make the argument that Republicans actually do very much care about religion. They just got stuck with a Mormon, so now they pretend not to.

The GOP cognitive dissonance machine is cranking so hard at this point I'm worried it'll blow a gasket, after years of the "Jesus Camp" folks in the GOP base talking about how important it was to have a good Christian man like GWB in office, they are faced with either voting for a Democrat (which to many of them would be like casting a ballot for Satan himself) or voting for a guy who is a devout adherent of a church most of them have been told for years, is a pagan or even Satanic Cult.

I've said before, that I believed that the apparent incongruity of the Mormon church doing most of the heavy lifting on Prop 8, which defines marriage as between ONE man and ONE woman, was to ingraitiate themselves with evangelicals and make the prospect of a Mormon as president less scary

Magorn:The GOP cognitive dissonance machine is cranking so hard at this point I'm worried it'll blow a gasket, after years of the "Jesus Camp" folks in the GOP base talking about how important it was to have a good Christian man like GWB in office, they are faced with either voting for a Democrat (which to many of them would be like casting a ballot for Satan himself) or voting for a guy who is a devout adherent of a church most of them have been told for years, is a pagan or even Satanic Cult.

Let's not forget, these are the same folks that made Newt Gingrich - a twice divorced, thrice married serial adulterer who's had as many religions as he's had wives - a "steward of marriage" and gave him a primary victory in SC. Over Romney, who's only ever had the one wife and family.

Zerochance:Magorn: The GOP cognitive dissonance machine is cranking so hard at this point I'm worried it'll blow a gasket, after years of the "Jesus Camp" folks in the GOP base talking about how important it was to have a good Christian man like GWB in office, they are faced with either voting for a Democrat (which to many of them would be like casting a ballot for Satan himself) or voting for a guy who is a devout adherent of a church most of them have been told for years, is a pagan or even Satanic Cult.

Let's not forget, these are the same folks that made Newt Gingrich - a twice divorced, thrice married serial adulterer who's had as many religions as he's had wives - a "steward of marriage" and gave him a primary victory in SC. Over Romney, who's only ever had the one wife and family.

Zerochance:Considering Romney carried absolutely no southern evangelical states in the primaries, I'd make the argument that Republicans actually do very much care about religion. They just got stuck with a Mormon, so now they pretend not to.

heinrich66:I don't think there are any politicians that believe in God.

But... "Under God" is all over our currency! They have to believe in God! If they didn't have faith that there is a holy creator of the universe that looks after his creations and comforts them when in strife then how could they make life worse and worse for the millions of least fortunate people?