Will come within 1.4 million kilometers of the surface of the Sun.

In late September, astronomers using a telescope in Russia spotted a new comet, now going by the name of C/2012 S1 (ISON). It's currently not visible without some fairly high-end hardware, but the preliminary calculations of its trajectory suggest that it's likely to pass close to both the Earth and Sun about a year from now, a path that has the potential to provide a once-in-a-lifetime show.

According to a number of articles that appeared at about the same time, the comet's orbit is taking it nearly directly at the Sun, and will get within 1.4 million kilometers of the Sun's surface in November of next year, which should provide a lot of heat to melt the surface and expel gas from the comet. By January, it will be about 60 million kilometers from Earth.

That combination could, according to some estimates, leave the comet looking brighter than the full Moon, and could make it the brightest comet on record. But the actual brightness will depend heavily on details like the comet's composition and how much of its material gets ejected once it heats up. There have been some hotly anticipated comets that didn't live up to expectations, and a few that have turned out to be pleasant surprises. But if ISON is anywhere close to some of the higher estimates, we'll be in for quite a show.

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This writeup (and *all* the others linked) neglects to mention the very real possibility that the comet could be torn apart at its perihelion (or even long before then). Comets are big, dirty, sometimes loosly packed and rubbly iceballs. Many sungrazers don't come around a second time because they just don't make the trip the first time.

I would very, very much like Ars to post an article as the event is closer on how/when people can look at this when it happens.

I just fired up my Starry Night program to see where in the sky the comet will be at the times it may be most visible (From my location in Michigan). Sometime around November 1, 2013 the comet will rise In the East at around 4am Eastern Time. It should be around 6 degrees south of Mars. At this time it may not be bright enough to the naked eye. Over the month, It will start rising later, and more towards the SE, while getting brighter every day. During this time, the comet's tail should be getting longer and brighter (not sure if the tail will be bright enough to the naked eye).

Here's a date to look forward to. On Nov 24th, 2013, right before sunrise. The comet, Saturn and Mercury will form a nice triangle only separated by 4 degrees, all three visible to the naked eye (if things to as planned with the comet).

If the comet survives the pass by the sun on the 29th, it will again appear just before sunrise to the ESE. It will rise earlier and move towards the East each passing day (while also getting a bit dimmer). If nothing catastrophic happens to the comet, it may be a naked eye comet for the good part of two months (Nov 1, 2013 - Jan 1, 2014).

I'm sure that there will be plenty of updates, if not here, elsewhere! I am sure to have my camera and telescope out trying to get pictures. It should be bright enough a camera on tripod will give some good widefield views of the comet.

BTW...when they say "bright as the full moon" don't be fooled. That is only when the comet is very close to the sun. For those interested they had the chart at the bottom with their news release. Magnitude is how bright the comet is. Depending on how dark your skies are, the comet may be visible to the naked eye at around Magnitude 4-5. The "elongation" is just the amount of separation between the Sun and comet in degrees when viewing from the Earth.

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Nearly 20 years ago, the Cassini-Huygens mission was launched and the spacecraft has spent the last 13 years orbiting Saturn. Cassini burned up in Saturn's atmosphere, and left an amazing legacy.

This writeup (and *all* the others linked) neglects to mention the very real possibility that the comet could be torn apart at its perihelion (or even long before then). Comets are big, dirty, sometimes loosly packed and rubbly iceballs. Many sungrazers don't come around a second time because they just don't make the trip the first time.

This'll make up for Dad missing Halley's comet and then foul weather stopping us from seeing that big comet in the late 90s (cannot remember the name for the life of me).

I think you must be talking about Hale-Bopp. It was the biggest brightest comet in that era. It sounds like you were pretty young then, you may get a kick out of looking up the Heaven's Gate cult if you don't remember it. It is worth it.

This'll make up for Dad missing Halley's comet and then foul weather stopping us from seeing that big comet in the late 90s (cannot remember the name for the life of me).

I think you must be talking about Hale-Bopp. It was the biggest brightest comet in that era. It sounds like you were pretty young then, you may get a kick out of looking up the Heaven's Gate cult if you don't remember it. It is worth it.

This'll make up for Dad missing Halley's comet and then foul weather stopping us from seeing that big comet in the late 90s (cannot remember the name for the life of me).

I think you must be talking about Hale-Bopp. It was the biggest brightest comet in that era. It sounds like you were pretty young then, you may get a kick out of looking up the Heaven's Gate cult if you don't remember it. It is worth it.

This'll make up for Dad missing Halley's comet and then foul weather stopping us from seeing that big comet in the late 90s (cannot remember the name for the life of me).

I think you must be talking about Hale-Bopp. It was the biggest brightest comet in that era. It sounds like you were pretty young then, you may get a kick out of looking up the Heaven's Gate cult if you don't remember it. It is worth it.

Didn't they all die?

Its not just that they (almost) all died. It is the spectacularly stupid and attention-grabbing way they all died. Look up the Saturday Night Live fake Heaven's Gate Nike commercial. It is one of their best ever.

Follow the image-credit link through a couple of clicks (enable Java in your browser!), and you can watch the predicted orbit. I propose we give this to NASA and ask them to try out a few ELE-avoidance techniques. Maybe we can smash it into Venus...

Follow the image-credit link through a couple of clicks (enable Java in your browser!), and you can watch the predicted orbit. I propose we give this to NASA and ask them to try out a few ELE-avoidance techniques. Maybe we can smash it into Venus...

Just remember to disable Java so you don't get owned when you visit some less than reputable site later on.

Since Kilo = 1,000, it seems funny to write 1.4 million kilometers... how about 1.4 billion meters??

1. Kilometers are common units that most people have a grasp of.

2. It would introduce confusion as to which "billion" we are talking. In Britain and other countries, a billion is 1012. In the US, a billion is 109. Quite a difference. I suppose you could use "gigameters", but again, not many people have a firm grasp of how big is a "gigameter".

I would very, very much like Ars to post an article as the event is closer on how/when people can look at this when it happens.

I just fired up my Starry Night program to see where in the sky the comet will be at the times it may be most visible (From my location in Michigan). Sometime around November 1, 2013 the comet will rise In the East at around 4am Eastern Time. It should be around 6 degrees south of Mars. At this time it may not be bright enough to the naked eye. Over the month, It will start rising later, and more towards the SE, while getting brighter every day. During this time, the comet's tail should be getting longer and brighter (not sure if the tail will be bright enough to the naked eye).

Here's a date to look forward to. On Nov 24th, 2013, right before sunrise. The comet, Saturn and Mercury will form a nice triangle only separated by 4 degrees, all three visible to the naked eye (if things to as planned with the comet).

If the comet survives the pass by the sun on the 29th, it will again appear just before sunrise to the ESE. It will rise earlier and move towards the East each passing day (while also getting a bit dimmer). If nothing catastrophic happens to the comet, it may be a naked eye comet for the good part of two months (Nov 1, 2013 - Jan 1, 2014).

I'm sure that there will be plenty of updates, if not here, elsewhere! I am sure to have my camera and telescope out trying to get pictures. It should be bright enough a camera on tripod will give some good widefield views of the comet.

BTW...when they say "bright as the full moon" don't be fooled. That is only when the comet is very close to the sun. For those interested they had the chart at the bottom with their news release. Magnitude is how bright the comet is. Depending on how dark your skies are, the comet may be visible to the naked eye at around Magnitude 4-5. The "elongation" is just the amount of separation between the Sun and comet in degrees when viewing from the Earth.

This is really exciting. It could very well be the fake impending disaster of 2013. I've had bad weather for nearly every close flyby of my lifetime, so this prospect has me looking up [rimshot.aiff]. So, here's hoping somebody manages to give this thing the name "Icarus."

There's the very real possibility that the comet will be an undistinguished object barely reaching second magnitude which will disintegrate at perihelion and be little more than a glowing cloud at closest approach to Earth.

Being a sungrazer, it will reach maximum magnitude very close to the Sun, so it won't have the benefit of dark skies to help.

Or, it could turn out to be very active, have a tail stretching clean across the sky and cast visible shadows.

It has been said that comets are like cats. Both have tails and both do whatever the hell they please.