Indian RAW vs. Pakistan ISI: Questioning Intelligence

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Difference between Indian RAW and Pakistan ISI

A lack of proper intelligence was noticed after India faced war with Pakistan in 1965. The Indian External Intelligence Agency known as RAW (Research and Analysis Wing), was formed in 1968. RAW mainly collects external intelligence regarding acts against terrorism and even advises Indian foreign policymakers. ISI (inter-services Intelligence) is the major intelligence agency in Pakistan and was basically set up to strengthen Pakistan’s military intelligence in 1948. Before the ISI was formed as an independent unit, it was a part of Pakistan’s Intelligence Bureau. It had its headquarters in Rawalpindi at the time of establishment but later was shifted to Islamabad.

History

Before RAW came into existence all the intelligence was handled by a body called Intelligence Bureau (IB) which was established by the British. After India faced two consecutive wars in 1962 and 1965, failure in the field of intelligence was exposed. In 1966, the idea of a separate intelligence agency took shape and was implemented in 1968 under the leadership Mrs. Indira Gandhi. At the time of independence in 1947, Pakistan created two major intelligence agencies; IB and Military Intelligence (MI). After the failure of MI in a 1947 dispute, a newer well-organized agency called the Inter-Services Intelligence came into existence. It contained officials from all the three military wings which are the Army, Navy and Air Force.

Objectives

The major objectives of RAW include gathering information about the military and political developments in adjoining nations and monitoring the international public opinion with the help of Indians scattered throughout the world. After the indo-Pakistan war, one of the objectives was to limit the supply of military equipments to Pakistan from European nations, America and more importantly from China. ISI focuses on information gathering by both secret and open means but aggressive techniques are also employed. ISI is known to work on counterintelligence and in making relations with foreign intelligence agencies. A 2010 report based on interviews with Taliban commanders in Afghanistan, revealed to an interviewer that the ISI not only has direct links to the Taliban but the ISI opts for an "official policy" for funding, training and supporting the Taliban. Even the Quetta Shura, who represents the leadership for the Taliban is believed to meet in Pakistan. This poses several serious questions that have yet to be answered.

Major Operations

Some of the major RAW operations include ELINT which was carried out in collaboration with the CIA to track the progress of China in the nuclear developments field. It played a vital role in the formation of Bangladesh. Operation Chanakya was carried out under the supervision of RAW in Kashmir against terrorism in which it was successful in splitting the terrorist group Hizb-ul–Mujahidin. ISI has carried out major operations in India and Afghanistan. ISI helped the Sikh movement in Punjab which aimed to succeed in the formation of Khalistan. ISI is also blamed for its secret support to militant groups in Kashmir region against the Indian government.

Summary

RAW

Established in 1968

Before RAW, Intelligence Bureau carried out all the operations

Information gathering and monitoring international public opinion are some major objectives

After Indo-Pakistan war it aimed at limiting military supply to Pakistan

Operations like ELINT and Chanakya were carried out by RAW

ISI

Current headquarters in Islamabad

It was created after the failure of MI (Military Intelligence)

Counterintelligence and making relations with other agencies fall into its objectives category

Its major operations are carried out in India and Afghanistan

In 2010, according Wikipedia, the ISI has been linked to Taliban as the meeting place of the Taliban’s leadership and as a source for funding, training and support.

o you idiot even your millitary is scared of isi you are going to laugh at this of yours country phobia yours moms especially of armys scare your children from isi to get to sleep or might be the case with your leaders as well

ISI objectives is to safe Pakistan from America , India and Israel collations, No wounder ISI has a major part in developing Pakistan Foreign Policy but they work for to safe the country objective,,, One more thing ISI is more experiences than CIA , RAW or MOSSAD they know how to throw American from Afghanishtan.

I agree with u dude that ISI's motive is to protect pakistan from potential threats....but looking at their acts i afraid u r wrong. their major objective has been to create menace in India. although they are afraid of Indians to accept it openly. isi's existence wud b in danger if they wont stop now. No need to give reason, hope u remember 65 71 and 99.

you cant see what india is doing to pakistan begladeshi mukti bahinis blasting every where in pak now through afghanistan in khyber pakhtoonkhwa in balochistan and on mumbai sort of attack you are blaming pakistan which could be an inside job of your country and what do you think of cia raw mossad doing in pakistan if these type agencies were operating in india india might have gone boom you should instead credit isi pak army to be standing alone to their resistance

i agree with you dude,we are doing that in afghanistan,baloochistan and peshawar,but its totally diplomacy that's cent percent true and fine for your political situation,you people deserve that.Have you forgotten what we did to your army and agents in the three consecutive wars,your army gets scared,even if somebody says RAW!next thing you say is ISI,well it is older and stronger than even CIA or our friendly agencies FSB or MOSSAD,but you know,world thinks that ISI isnt a intelligence agency,but whereas it is a bunch of stupid army people of pakistan,your agencies dont even have the basic technology for intelligence gathering,you are still living in 20th century,and you dare to speak about RAW,who has the trained agents from the best agencies of the world,the CIA,FSB(former KGB) and our best friend,MOSSAD,not like your stupid ISI,who has few idiots with big hair and beard,and dressed in salwar kurtas!and i dont think so you know about NTRO,worlds most advanced technical intelligence agency,which we have,not pakistan,so dont sound stupid anymore while posting on sites without knowing the facts!jai hind and keep **** pakistan!

u mean to say ur more experienced than mossad...hahahaha..it means you can support ambiquiously solidarity movement in polland with the name of cia AND collapse an empire like soviet union and remain silent for ever..for evrery blast that occurs in india you hear the resound in pakistan...to be frank i still think u belong to hindustan..literally meaning people living beloe hind kush mountains..but since u provoked it...ur of no match to mossad and our agency r& aw,which many citizens diont even knew it exists..thats the best part of intelligence agency..read sun tzu's art of war my brother....

Is ISI able to save Apkistan from floods? The condition of Pakistan is like jelly today they cant stand and they cant fall.ISI alqaeda talibans all these are are so much mixed tht its impossible to distinguish now.ISI got u pakistan to a wonderful era ,Enjoy with floods draughts,high oil prices Good luck

COS U NEVER DEVELOPED NUCLEAR WEAPONS..U STOLE THEM FROM UK WITH THE HELP OF SO CALLED COPYING GENIUS ABDUL KHADEER KHAN AND THE ENTIRE WORLD KNOWS THAT AND U KNOW THE REASON WHY THEY WERE SILENT..COS U R JUST A PEICE OF ****..A PEICE OF LAND GIFTED BY US SO THAT THE INDIAN SUBCONTINENT RESTS IN PEACE ALAS STILL AFTER 67 YEARS YOU NEVER KNEW THE MEANING THE PEACE BUT U UNDERSTOOD IT AS PIECE

All you punks who are critisizing ISI know ****. ISI exists and exists well, it has protected Pakistan internally and externally always and that';s the vary reason you **** cant take it. shove the comments up your asses u maniacs, RAW ? what is raw? It is RAW in real.

you guys dont know what to and when to do dude, that's the problem. I understand objective of ISI was to protect pak only, but is that the way?? training and supporting terrorists, using them against India n Afganistan.. This did no good to pak or isi, not any more than spoiling both of them's image in world.

if one thinks that World FEARS a terrorist or terrorist supporting organisation, i can assure you, you cant find a bigger Duffer than him. World just hates them, keeps silent because they can see what these organisations cant see "War and Voilence brings good to neither side"

There is no need of argument as we can see how powerfull is ISI. They dont know even that OSAMA was hidden inside of pakistan. If they know then there is no question of seeing how good is ISI. They too are equal to Al-Qaeda.

every country looks for itz own benefit in it foreign policies including intelligence agencies...but what is the use if itz cozin mor harm to its own country...ISI s funding of anti- india terrorist groups haz cozed the rise of fanatic islamist groups in pakistan..they r themselves responsible for their problems..instead of jeoparding india..dey should have took care of their own affairs

come on guys.. none of us have any idea what really is being done by both the inteligence agencies.. are they working for our protection or just locked in a mutual power struggle.. I can only say for sure that if these two agencies are as good as u guys claim than why do so many innocent people in both our countries lose their lives in terrorist attacks.. Instead of pointing fingers at each other , we should point fingers at our respective agencies for failure to protect its citizens. Which is why they exist.. Right!!

india pak both of u kill the enemy poverty, high price, ilitration,tererism,food, medicine, be frendly both of u good isi and raw both are powerful both can save their own country enjoy the life ..brotherhood best

U NEVER HAD ANY RELATIONS U RELIGIOUS MANIAC..WE HAD THATS Y UR STILL ALIVE AND IF THE ISRAELIS THINK IN THE SAME WAY THERE WONT BE ANY ARAB WORLD REMEMBER THAT.....IF THEY CAN STEAL A MIG 21 FROM UR AIR FORCE..JUST IMAGINE HOW DOWNTRODDEN YOU ARE...SPOILING PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISM..MY BEST FRINEDS ARE ISLAM BUT THEY PRACTISE TRUE ISLAM...LOVING PEOPLE BUT NOT PROVOKING PEOPLE AGAINST OTHERS...

DO you know Nato and ISAF wears pampers in Afghanistan because they can not come out in front of Taliban and Mujahiddin. Same is the case with Indians and RAW when they face Pakistan and ISI. Non Muslims fear death!!

Pakistan's agencies are working against almost 10 agencies and is going successfull in all counter intelligence operations in Pakistan and in all over the world. Isi is 100 times stronger than Indian agencies.

so dear Indians, shut the **** up. u don't even know how to install a spyware in Pakistani landline network.

but Pakistan ISI had arranged to do it. so enjoy your systems hacked & tracked by out cyber agents!!

hey all dudes ! what r we arguing about? what is the outcome of the ISI's supposed success? 1) dismemberment of pakistan and creation of bangladesh. 2) the defeat of the taliban hegemony in afghanistan.. today at best the taliban is just one of several players in Af. 3)the virtual anarchy in pakistan thru internal terrorism.. so much so that no politician.. no leader.. no VIP and no ordinary pakistani is safe from their home grown jihadis....

so with all these "successes" the ISI should first focus on saving pakistan from itself.. before taking on india, US or anyone else ! no ?