(It would be good if I could get the official CDC site and not a wiki)

and the 1.5 million Defensive Gun Uses a year from a study by the US Justice Department.

so I took 1,500,000 and divided it by 20,000 and I got 75 so would it be accurate to say there are 75 times more defensive gun uses a year than gun deaths or is there some kind of flaw that I am overlooking.

There are significantly more Offensive gun crimes than there are Defensive gun uses. Crime works that way.
I guess what we need to know is.... how are you attempting to portray gun owners, because what you have is a math problem. You have an end which you are trying to justify, right?

The 1.5 million number sounds like one promoted by the NRA. That includes situations that a gun was displayed but not fired. I am not sure how they accrued that data, but it sounds pretty reasonable to me.

So, yes. I believe that would be an accurate stat.

The CDC compiles data on "reported" gun deaths. They also include suicides, accidents, homicides, justified self defense killings and LE shootings that result in a death. They portray the number in such a fashion that leads many to associate 20,000 deaths with 20,000 MURDERS. That could not be further from the truth. I seriously doubt there are 20,000 murders in the US over any 3-4 year period.

The 1.5 million number sounds like one promoted by the NRA. That includes situations that a gun was displayed but not fired. I am not sure how they accrued that data, but it sounds pretty reasonable to me.

So, yes. I believe that would be an accurate stat.

The CDC compiles data on "reported" gun deaths. They also include suicides, accidents, homicides, justified self defense killings and LE shootings that result in a death. They portray the number in such a fashion that leads many to associate 20,000 deaths with 20,000 MURDERS. That could not be further from the truth. I seriously doubt there are 20,000 murders in the US over any 3-4 year period.

The 1.5 million was actually the one of the lower numbers I could find for Defensive Gun Uses per year, it's also by the US Justice Department so it's more official.
I also came across DGU #'s of 2.5 million and 2 million from a study by Gary Kleck from the Florida State University in 1993.
I don't see a problem with a DGU being just a weapon displayed, I mean I think that would work better(maybe look) in that no-one was hurt.

To Skullcrusher I may check out those suggestions though I don't know how easy it will be to find statistics that specific.

My primary goal is to find out if guns save more people or kill more people. (hopefully save more)

Thanks for the response.
My teacher for social issues says we are going over gun violence and we are going to be shown a video on children gun deaths.

So far I have my original statistic and I'm also going to use the following.

* more children are killed every year by Adult sized beds(or was it being crushed between the mattress and the headboard)
* maybe something to do with automobiles
* children statistic includes 15-20 year old gang-bangers

And maybe that one that says doctors cause 9,000 times more deaths then gun violence in the US but I may hold off because they may think I'm crazy or something.

Anyone have any other good arguments I can use. Also is the 2% of crime committed using "Assault Weapons" accurate because I heard FOX use 6%