Do you even own a device that's jailbroken? Are you familiar with apps such as winterboard that'll give you a custom background instead of the everyday boring black and hide the ugly dock graphic? That's the proof right there buddy, I can't make it any simpler than that.

Seriously though, post the engadget linksand what not you were talking about eralier, I would LOVE to see them.

@ TimW & DrDirtyignore the knickers of your comments, I see truth in what you say.Seems like ol Georgie Boy has run out of funds and wants donations to buy him an ipad or new iphone or Sony PSxA teaser they say, a shitty attempt says meTimW.. I found the comments on sites you mentioned and they echo what you say tooignore the tossers and carry on with your comments, I for 1 love your stylerespect !!

Don't you have a search function??Find said sites and READ THE COMMENTS!!

I own a 3Gs 16Gb on 3.1.2 as previously stated, again, TRY READING for once. I DONT OWN A TOUCH so can't comment on them or how they work. (refer to my original first comment AND TRY READING IT)As for what you think, that's something I really, really don't care about, and won't lose sleep over you getting all bitter & twisted about slagging off your idol either

If my comments annoy you or others, I don't force you to read (hahaha in your case) or respond to them

He has valid reasons to hold on to it and he has done it before and has ALWAYS delivered. You release it now, and the hole that's being used will be fixed by Apple before the iPad hits the streets... then all iPad owners are screwed until a new exploit is found.

You are so selfish. If you want it now, do it yourself NOW. DR... He never said he isn't going to release it, just not yet. You're being just as hard headed as TimW... you two should go out and wank each other off...

Calm down there sparky, I said DEVICE, not touch, implying anything under the sun that uses the iPhone OS. Yes I do have a search function, who doesn't? But I'm not going to go on a wild goose hunt when you're the only one making the said implications. Yes you did say you own a 3GS 16gb as do I, but I don't recall seeing you say something about it being jailbroken and if it is then do yourself a favor and download winterboard or a similar app and you will then see what I'm talking about in the video. Stop getting mad bc someone has challenged you, if you have a point to be made and nothing to hide then you wouldn't mind to link those articles from the sites you spoke of.

ok both of these turds are blind. if they would look close at the video, first off their argument is that the cannibis leaf is just the lock screen image. well look again yes its the lock screen image but when geohot unlocks the screen you see his apps with the cannibis leaf behind it. thats a winterboard option that lets the user use his own image as wall paper behind his apps. if you turds can put an image behind your apps without jailbreaking ill eat my words but i dont think so. he unlocks the screen and he scrolls through his programs. what else do you need? and for those who says its not geohot, he tweeted about this video that he made it, so unless someone hacked his tweeter account, im pretty sure its his video.

Right, tried copy & paste but won't let me link (on 3Gs now)so, BoygeniusReportEngaget9to5Macthey all carry the story, but it's the comments of said sites that are the samesorry I can't link but if you do look you'll see I'm not alone

don't know why but can never c&p to the comments on here, can on pc but other half using in work

yes, I have a JB device, 3G was JB too b4 sold itNo I don't have a Touch as it's 'all in' with the iPhone

iH8Snow reports it being an iBoot loophole and others claim it to be a one time key and tied to a single Firmware. If the Pad comes with an updated bootrom, modem s/ware etc then it's a case of shutting stable door, horse etcIf it works, then why not release now when it's needed by many rather than sit on it and possibly lose it all??If I had a working JB, I'd get it on Cydia for 99c, but I don't!If people thought out possibilities of what could be then life would be more interesting, too many read a tagline, watch a video and become blinkered to the fact that it may not happenI can sit smug knowing that my SHSH is safe, and for no reason other than curiosity, restored my iPhone, just to see if it worked... and it did work, biggest pain was creating a one time use, direct link with notepad to act as a file editor. Now I know how, I'm happyAs for this topic/thread, I didn't know a Touch was used, I do now, just bought a touch to see for myself if I was wrong, find out tomorrow when mine & a JB Touch arrive here. I hope for many peoples sake that this hack works, but then there will always be the 'Accidental Upgraders' that can't see a 200Mb+ file being downloaded and those who buy the new os models and instantly start honking. I say what I say, some like, some don't. Ain't really worried either way, those who present a real argument I respect, those who jump in for the sake of it become easy to annoy, and I have plenty of time for that :-)Prefer a good discussion over a slanging match

You are right, if he wanted to show that it was jailbroken on 3.1.3 he would have done the exact same..BUT he would have gone to settings-general-about and proved it was on 3.1.3 and 3rd gen. good point man

Yeah, emailed the Admin about the post button getting covered up but appears to be fixed nowWas having to click on website box then Go on kb to post anythingNot had prob with lines dissapearing at bottom, top of reply/post can be a pain to edit later

Hats off to you Joe and a standing ovation as well. I couldn't have put it more elegantly. Everything you've said was well put and to the point.

I would like to add that if ppl actually followed Geohot they'd remember that he has released jailbreaks when the devteam refused to. Not once has he lied to the public. I would also like to make note the reason why he's showing an it3g is bc there aren't any untethered jailbreaks for it yet. So if the it3g was running something other than 3.1.3 it was still an accomplishment that no one's done yet.

In all honesty this has happened to the community before. I don't know when you started using an iphone but I've been with it since day 1. My original was an iPhone 4GB. I was 1 of 3 ppl I knew that had that particular one b/c I was too cheap to fork over $100 for 8GB when I was already paying $499 to apple to begin with. Yes, I say $499, like I said, bought it on day 1 and then like 4 months later apple decides to discontinue the one I bought and give the 8GB a price cut.

But anyway that's beside the point, point is if you're a long standing member of the jailbreaking community you'd know that this sort of thing has happened before. DevTeam withheld their stuff several times until new firmware came out just to keep apple from patching the exploits they found and it does indeed work. The last time this happened I think was.... 2.2 maybe? It was when Geohot first came into the scene and thought that it wasn't right of the DevTeam to hold their stuff and released his own. That's why I stand by what I said and I honestly think it's going to be at least another week before we see anything out of him.

I've been with the iPhone since almost first release of the 3G 1.x.x, the one before 2.x was released and 3Gs for past 5 months, 3.0 onwardsI agree that the dev's sit on & hold out for the new firmware release and adapt it from there, but, if it IS a One Time Use for the iBoot then that's what gets changed on each update (correct me if wrong here) so that makes the 3.1.3 hack potentially useless (I'm assuming it's iBoot from iH8Snows Twitter amongst others) He has it, many need it so he makes a pisstake video that's screams "you can't have it ner-ner"People all over the Blog'o'sphere start chucking cash at him in a desparate hope He states that a facebook page claiming he's working on 3.1.3 is fake, shows no interest in responding to people offering to help him, plays all coy with Tweeted hashes that mean nothing then pops up with a video claiming he's done itYes it's a gamble holding off, but so many more people have learnt to hold off with updates that it has to be worth a release, even if he chose via cydia with a silly low price he'd make a fortune. No software is perfect and immune to hackers, but to have something that people want & need and not use it is a big mistake. Would you not feel gutted if 3.2/4.0 etc came and you had to wait more months before able jack comes through, I know a lot who could do with it now, not laterNo, I don't demand it to be released, but neither do I respect someone who in my eyes is toying with people like a cat with a mouse

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