There are two main painfully obvious false ideas that are taught to young Whites today. Those are that race doesn't exist, and that Whites are an oppressive savage warrior race. Obviously, most of you believe both of those at the same time, yet I know that deep down you know that they're both false. The two ideaologies contradict each other. If race doesn't exist, then why are you so strongly against White Nationalism? After all, according to that philosophy, race doesn't exist, and if we're all the same, then how can the arrangement of an all-White society be inferior to a multicultural society, since there are no races and cultures and nations? Why push multiculturalism, if one of your strong-held beliefs is that it fundamentally doesn't exist? I think you know why multiculturalism is pushed. If there were no races, it would not be pushed. The WHITE race is the only race told that it doesn't really exist. Why is that? You don't see multicults going over to Japan and telling them that the Asian race is just a social construct. If it's true, then why wouldn't this WONDERFUL news that we're all the same but with a different paintjob be spread all over the world? Why only to White nations? Doesn't it look suspect if the only targets are White nations? And doesn't it also look suspect that the Whites are told they don't exist, while no other race is told that? What would happen to the fool that went to a Black Panthers rally and told the people that their race doesn't exist? What would happen if a multicult went to a La Raza meeting and told them that they are nothing but a social construct? Doesn't it also look suspect that while being told they don't exist, White Pride is attacked? Why attack something with brute force that has no logical basis for existing, according to the main anti philosophy? Could it be that race DOES exist? That race is biological and very real? The truth does not need to be protected by brute force, facts do not need brute force to prop them up, the truth will demolish the lies all on its own.

But of course, you're going to say now that the White race is an evil warrior race that enslaves all other races. If race doesn't exist, then how can the White race be a savage warrior race if it doesn't exist? Ah, but we have already established, using logic, that race DOES exist. If we are so brutish and savage, then why is it Whites are the ONLY race that will give everything it has to be generous to non-Whites, while being slapped around by the very same people they are cheerfully playing Santa Claus for? Black on white crime is through the roof, even worse than it was in 1950. Crime statistics don't lie. And don't tell me that blacks are automatically given harsher jail sentences or other PC horse manure. Read any newspaper, watch any local news, and you will see the opposite is true. A Black person is given a much lighter sentence on average than a White that committed the same crime. So much has been posted on the slave trade that none of you should EVEN bring that up, since your notion that we captured free blacks and made slaves out of them has been destroyed time and time again.

Read this, and think about this before you give a reply. If you reply with an ad-hominem or straw man attack, then you'll just prove the rest of us right when we all are saying that you have nothing to back up your beliefs, so you resort to mud-slinging.

Race is a social construct organized around agreed sets of genetic traits.

The set of genetic traits (fair skin, fine facial features etc.) that you define as the 'white' race is what you base your pride on. I find this a strange thing to be proud of, myself being more prone to finding pride more in my personal achievements than in any set of DNA that I was born with.

Accordingly, I am not particularly precious about any race that I am supposed to belong to, and don't see much of a problem with (gasp) breeding with someone of a different genetic make up.

As for the mixing of cultures, you do not state exactly what your concern of this is. I can only assume that you somehow feel that your culture is being overwhelmed by outside influences?

What you must understand is that the native 'white' culture of which admire is a composite culture drawing from many other cultures and ideas from thousands of years prior. If you really want to hold on to your established sense of culture, then you should ENCOURAGE multiculturalism to allow the culture that you have to grow and evolve.

Your post gets a little ranty towards the end, but I'll see what I can manage for a rebuttal...

As for the white race being some 'evil warrior race', I think what you meant to say is that western European nations went out and conquered many weaker, and less advanced civilizations, and certain people allude to this violent domination as the white race being somehow more violent and evil.

This of course is wrong. The only reason that these European nations were able to do what they did is that they had a certain combination of technological advance, and social structure that enabled them to carry out such acts. The conquest of other civilizations has occured throughout human history and has nothing to do with the concept of evil as it does about human tribal instincts and perceived scarcity.

As for different races causing more crime, I suspect that a further investigation in to this will eventuate environmental factors as the mitigating factor as opposed to any biological determinism towards criminal behaviour.

I have no idea what you are on about in regards to slavery, so I will just state that people of all races have kept slaves, and been slaves throughout history, indeed some people remain in slavery and are unaware of the fact.

I hope that this is a sufficient reply to your post, thanks for taking the time to consider mine. Feel free to argue back and I may come back and counter anyone elses thoughts.

Location: Night sits measuring shadows here, Deep and stark, Where the hills are dark, With evergreen haunts for the hungry deer, So that strangers understand, Winter's claim upon the land – Ellin Anderson

To assault a people, you must first marginalize them. In effect, white racists do that when they call a race inferior or a deadend race.

Multiculturalists, who are simply anti-white racists, do this with whites by saying that either our race does not exist, or exists only as a skin color.

Then they seek to destroy our white, Christian nations by inundating us with non-whites and other religions.

What did Susan Sontag say?: "the white race is the cancer on human history."

Isn't this the common theme among the politically correct? What does one do with a cancer race. First you marginalize it. You say it does not exist. You then deliberately and systematically disempower and eventually destroy it.

You promote mass immigration into white countries. You promote intermarriage. You promote feminism which everyone knows is keeping the white birthrate below replacement level. You punish whites who organize against this. You encourage non-whites to organize themselves into racially defined organizations.

Presto, chango, this cancer race, these white, Christian societies, will be quickly transformed into societies with a dwindling white minority, with Christianity a marginalized religion.

OK, I guess you could call me an anti, so I'll accept your invitation to comment.

First I must make the following two points:

1. I do not deny that race exists.
2. I do not regard whites as an oppressive warrior race (heck, I'm white and I don't see myself or my family in that description).

Nevertheless I do not agree with you. I understand you and your fellow SF devotees feel somewhat marginalised, but your belief that all white antis hold such a negative view of their own race is, in my opinion, misplaced. I don't know, prehaps you enjoy being angry (I have a sneaking suspicion that quite a lot of posters on this site are exhilarated by their rage). Then again, you may consider that the confrontational approach frequently taken by white nationalists isn't exactly getting them very far. Time to try talking rather than shouting perhaps?

A word about your comment that blacks receive lighter sentences than whites in the courts. Bear in mind I'm a Brit, from London. Now I can't comment on US law, but you are wrong if you think that is the case in the United Kingdom, a land where, broadly speaking, we are tolerant of all races. I've spent more time in British courts than I care to remember and can state with great confidence that blacks, whites and all races are sentenced in an even handed manner. That is not a liberal's guess - I've seen it myself. And I am proud of it.

As for Mr Morgan's remark about "promoting mass immigration into white countries", I was under the impression that North America did not always have a white majority. Indeed the presence of white people is, relatively speaking, a new development. When does a country become defined as white, black or otherwise? Would it not be fair for the Native Americans to complain about mass white immigration? Please do not regard this as a puerile attack. I have read enough to realise that your movement has a complex ideology and promotes intelligent thought. I will be interested to hear your arguments.

Please note the absence of mudslinging in this post. Hopefully you will realise that not all antis are instinctively antagonistic towards white nationalists.

To assault a people, you must first marginalize them. In effect, white racists do that when they call a race inferior or a deadend race.

Multiculturalists, who are simply anti-white racists, do this with whites by saying that either our race does not exist, or exists only as a skin color.

Then they seek to destroy our white, Christian nations by inundating us with non-whites and other religions.

What did Susan Sontag say?: "the white race is the cancer on human history."

Isn't this the common theme among the politically correct? What does one do with a cancer race. First you marginalize it. You say it does not exist. You then deliberately and systematically disempower and eventually destroy it.

You promote mass immigration into white countries. You promote intermarriage. You promote feminism which everyone knows is keeping the white birthrate below replacement level. You punish whites who organize against this. You encourage non-whites to organize themselves into racially defined organizations.

Presto, chango, this cancer race, these white, Christian societies, will be quickly transformed into societies with a dwindling white minority, with Christianity a marginalized religion.

No more white, Christian societies. No more cancer race.

Of course what you state is all true. Additiionally, the courts are behind the move, the schools teach the anti-white race party line giving it some credibility, motion pictures and music reinforce the notion with visual and auditory images which impress the young. We see attacks on Christian religious symbols during the holidays by you know who.
Sadly, too many white people are buying into this self-hate campaign. I guess some could describe themselves as self-loathing white people which could result in depression for some impressionable people.

Location: Night sits measuring shadows here, Deep and stark, Where the hills are dark, With evergreen haunts for the hungry deer, So that strangers understand, Winter's claim upon the land – Ellin Anderson

Additiionally, the courts are behind the move, the schools teach the anti-white race party line giving it some credibility, motion pictures and music reinforce the notion with visual and auditory images which impress the young.

We need to add 2 + 2 and get 4.

If multiculturalism will create the demise of white Christian societies, then why is that not hatred?

Take a white, Christian country like Ireland. If you were interested in preserving this race and their culture, what would you do? If you were interested in destroying this race and their culture, what would you do?

One avenue would be racist. Which is it? Isn't it called multiculturalism?

Hatred is intense animosity. Multiculturalism is not born out of animosity. In fact, it is quite the opposite.

Multiculturalists are not seeking destruction. They are seeking harmony.

I can accept that you don't agree with multiculturalists, but why do you accuse them of hatred when they are in fact acting in a loving way?

It seems you have added 2 + 2 and come up with 22 (i.e. at first glance it looks like you made an intelligent point but even a five year old could spot the flaws in your argument).

Breaking into someone's home is a better description.
Motives don't concern me. Black crime concerns me.
Whites being forced out concerns me.
The formal slander of Eupropeans' place in history, concerns me.

Multi-cults may be seeking harmony, but they are causing destruction.
Name me one single benefit this multiracial experiment has for Whites.

I think it is you who haven't got it. 2=2=4.
The last 40 years are a complete disaster for White America.
If you claim otherwise you better come up with some convincing evidence.
Muliculturalism = Hatred of Whites.
You prove otherwise.
Anti White propoganda is all encompassing.

Try bringing some examples of the benefits of multi-racialism.
You can't. There are none, for us.