The Buck Stops Here!! Shame on the Mayor and Commissioners for letting the town become the most “Dysfunctional” little Town in Florida. How can they possibly ignore the shambles the town is in. The ultimate frosting on the cake, our wonderful, efficient, hardworking Town Clerk, Carolyn Gangwer is resigning
After many many years of serving our town.
Carolyn says she can no longer work in such an “unprofessional environment”, naming the Town Manager, Cindy Lindskoog and Mayor Workman for not backing her up. Town hall is the Mother Ship, and it is sinking!!! So Sorry to see you go Carolyn.
How much more of a wake up call do we citizens need, to put a stop to the mismanagement and hiring practices and background checks on employees. It seems to me that the employees who have been let go, have stellar work ethics and backgrounds compared to the ones that are still employeed. How do you explain that???

Give me a break… Great idea about looking at their files! In their files (the same files the PD looked at and Police Academies looked at and FDLE looked at) will show none of this nonsense that you are talking about! Do you really think that a convicted felon could be a police officer?! Do you really think that someone convicted of Domestic Battery could still be a police officer?! The answer is NO! Fiers was never convicted of any felonies. Whether you like him or not make no mistake Fiers is no idiot! You do not get where he was being a moron. (Ex. Ohio State, Marine Corp, head of the CIA South American division…) I feel sorry for him having to deal with such absurdity! Det Coe, I don’t care if your boss at McDonald’s offers you the head fry promotion at work, you take it! Coe is one of the most productive officers in this town (check out all the stats by the way and see which officers do what…) and when his boss offered him the detective job of course you take it! How many arrests has Coe had? How many of his arrests and other officer’s arrests did not hold up because of “shady” backgrounds? NONE! You few miserable people are just hurting the good citizens of this town by posting this nonsense. You are hurting them not because you are bringing “evil things” to the light; you are hurting them because you feel you can trash good productive people to get your agenda across. While Russian was a new, unpaid police officer working with the department a rumor went around town that he was gay. It was said that is why he and his wife were getting divorced. It went as far as a rainbow being put on his locker. Whalen caught wind of this and became excited because he is a known bi-sexual and has an open relationship with him and his wife. Whalen made several homosexual advances on Russian, even inviting Russian to accompany him on a trip to Fantasy Fest in Key West. Each time Russian turned down his advances, this infuriated Whalen. Whalen became jealous especially when Russian started a relationship with a female who worked in town. Whalen ran with a false story about how Russian ran away from officers with his pants down while looking in windows. The other part of this jealous love quadrangle is that the female whom Russian was and is still dating was hit on numerous times by the then assistant Fire Chief Piro. Piro exhausted many sexual advances on Russian’s girlfriend while she worked at town hall. Piro became frustrated by being shot down by the female! Side note: These actions of hitting on and hooking up with local women have not ended on Piro’s part. Mrs. Piro what do you think your husband is up to while spending all of those nights out drinking at the Palm Beach Shores Resort and the Sea Spray? The fact that Whalen and Piro are friends and were turned down by both Russian and his girlfriend has led to a smear campaign on this young, hard working part time police officer/dispatcher. Couple that with the fact that Whalen, Piro and ex Palm Beach Shores fire man Salmon all have “open” bi-sexual relationships with their wives makes it interesting that they would make up stories of officers having sex parties, knowing full well that these swinging trios have had these parties at the Palm Beach Shores Resorts and the Sea Spray Hotel throughout the years… While on the topic of sex scandals among local residents and people running for commissionerships how about Lurcher and her having sex with a former officer while on duty!! In his patrol car!!! In the beach lot parking lot!!!! Way to not see that egregious act taking place “Chuck” in the Mayan… Oh wait he was too busy looking out for parking violations… What experience does Janet have? Bartending and swinging with her liar/deadbeat husband Salmon?? The same Salmon that was kicked out of the fire department by his peers!? The same Salmon that spearheaded a similar smear campaign over the fire Chief due to the fact that Marty wanted to really train his guys on Tuesday nights not just get drunk?! Then there is Sue in town hall, hey how is your husband been treating you lately? Any bruises we need to know about? Sue’s husband is a real dirt bag who lives in the Mayan and is a known Domestic Violence offender not to mention that he partook in some other illegal activities… I feel bad for Sue, this may add to her less than chipper attitude while at work. At what point does all this stop? At what point do people who may have valid issues with town officials and commissioners stop running their local police officers through the ringer just because they have an “agenda”? These few swinging/lying/miserable people even had the nerve to bring in the police officer’s innocent families/girlfriends and post where they live! That is sickening!! Has anyone making these allegations asked these police officers/commissioners/Firemen about these accusations in person? NO! They post on a blog…

[quote="Anonymous"]The Buck Stops Here!! Shame on the Mayor and Commissioners for letting the town become the most “Dysfunctional” little Town in Florida. How can they possibly ignore the shambles the town is in. The ultimate frosting on the cake, our wonderful, efficient, hardworking Town Clerk, Carolyn Gangwer is resigning
After many many years of serving our town.
Carolyn says she can no longer work in such an “unprofessional environment”, naming the Town Manager, Cindy Lindskoog and Mayor Workman for not backing her up. Town hall is the Mother Ship, and it is sinking!!! So Sorry to see you go Carolyn.
How much more of a wake up call do we citizens need, to put a stop to the mismanagement and hiring practices and background checks on employees. It seems to me that the employees who have been let go, have stellar work ethics and backgrounds compared to the ones that are still employeed. How do you explain that???[/quote]

I couldn't agree with you more! The employees who were let go or who were smart enough to see the ship sinking and left on their own free will were the only honest employee's the town had. Personally speaking...having The Town of Palm Beach Shores as an employer on your resume does not help you at all. Other municipalities are aware at how poorly that town and its various "departments" are run and its a determent to have on your resume. Of course the people still working there won't have to worry about that because they can't get hired anywhere else. Unfortunately Palm Beach Shores is the place to go when you have a questionable work ethic, background and lack of moral character...if you can't get hired anywhere else you will be welcomed with open arms in Palm Beach Shores. They say Jail is the Place for Career Offenders..Palm Beach Shores is the Place for Career Dysfunction! If you work in Palm Beach Shores and you try to do what is good, right and just and try to voice your opinion about corrupt practices or wrong doings then you are seen as a "PROBLEM EMPLOYEE" and the shenanigans don't get better they just get worse.

Of course they are going to say this site has no credibility. Coming from Fiers, Tropepe, Workman and the other Knit Wits...
well they are the Kings and Queens of NO CREDIBILITY..so I would take whatever Fiers and the rest of the misfits are telling you with a grain of salt. Consider the source..if this site had no credibility then why would they be reading it? and why would there be over 3 to 4 pages of detailed incidents that have taken place and are on record and documented? The only thing that is not credible are the people who are running the town, the fire department and the police department.

OMG COP TALK RADIO IS TEARING UP THESE PISS ANT POLICE CHIEFS IN THESE PISS ANT TOWNS RUN BY A PISS ANT CORRUPT SHERIFF! THEY TELL IT LIKE IT IS! WE, THE GOOD COPS IN THE FIELD NEED TO CONTINUE TO EXPOSE ALL THE PISS ANTS THAT THINK THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW!

[quote="Anonymous"] Oweee ... You sound truly frustated. Give me a break… Great idea about looking at their files! In their files (the same files the PD looked at and Police Academies looked at and FDLE looked at) will show none of this nonsense that you are talking about! Do you really think that a convicted felon could be a police officer?! Do you really think that someone convicted of Domestic Battery could still be a police officer?! The answer is NO! Fiers was never convicted of any felonies. Whether you like him or not make no mistake Fiers is no idiot! You do not get where he was being a moron. (Ex. Ohio State, Marine Corp, head of the CIA South American division…) I feel sorry for him having to deal with such absurdity! Det Coe, I don’t care if your boss at McDonald’s offers you the head fry promotion at work, you take it! Coe is one of the most productive officers in this town (check out all the stats by the way and see which officers do what…) and when his boss offered him the detective job of course you take it! How many arrests has Coe had? How many of his arrests and other officer’s arrests did not hold up because of “shady” backgrounds? NONE! You few miserable people are just hurting the good citizens of this town by posting this nonsense. You are hurting them not because you are bringing “evil things” to the light; you are hurting them because you feel you can trash good productive people to get your agenda across. While Russian was a new, unpaid police officer working with the department a rumor went around town that he was gay. It was said that is why he and his wife were getting divorced. It went as far as a rainbow being put on his locker. Whalen caught wind of this and became excited because he is a known bi-sexual and has an open relationship with him and his wife. Whalen made several homosexual advances on Russian, even inviting Russian to accompany him on a trip to Fantasy Fest in Key West. Each time Russian turned down his advances, this infuriated Whalen. Whalen became jealous especially when Russian started a relationship with a female who worked in town. Whalen ran with a false story about how Russian ran away from officers with his pants down while looking in windows. The other part of this jealous love quadrangle is that the female whom Russian was and is still dating was hit on numerous times by the then assistant Fire Chief Piro. Piro exhausted many sexual advances on Russian’s girlfriend while she worked at town hall. Piro became frustrated by being shot down by the female! Side note: These actions of hitting on and hooking up with local women have not ended on Piro’s part. Mrs. Piro what do you think your husband is up to while spending all of those nights out drinking at the Palm Beach Shores Resort and the Sea Spray? The fact that Whalen and Piro are friends and were turned down by both Russian and his girlfriend has led to a smear campaign on this young, hard working part time police officer/dispatcher. Couple that with the fact that Whalen, Piro and ex Palm Beach Shores fire man Salmon all have “open” bi-sexual relationships with their wives makes it interesting that they would make up stories of officers having sex parties, knowing full well that these swinging trios have had these parties at the Palm Beach Shores Resorts and the Sea Spray Hotel throughout the years… While on the topic of sex scandals among local residents and people running for commissionerships how about Lurcher and her having sex with a former officer while on duty!! In his patrol car!!! In the beach lot parking lot!!!! Way to not see that egregious act taking place “Chuck” in the Mayan… Oh wait he was too busy looking out for parking violations… What experience does Janet have? Bartending and swinging with her liar/deadbeat husband Salmon?? The same Salmon that was kicked out of the fire department by his peers!? The same Salmon that spearheaded a similar smear campaign over the fire Chief due to the fact that Marty wanted to really train his guys on Tuesday nights not just get drunk?! Then there is Sue in town hall, hey how is your husband been treating you lately? Any bruises we need to know about? Sue’s husband is a real dirt bag who lives in the Mayan and is a known Domestic Violence offender not to mention that he partook in some other illegal activities… I feel bad for Sue, this may add to her less than chipper attitude while at work. At what point does all this stop? At what point do people who may have valid issues with town officials and commissioners stop running their local police officers through the ringer just because they have an “agenda”? These few swinging/lying/miserable people even had the nerve to bring in the police officer’s innocent families/girlfriends and post where they live! That is sickening!! Has anyone making these allegations asked these police officers/commissioners/Firemen about these accusations in person? NO! They post on a blog…[/quote]

To Give Me A Break...there is a 911 TAPE of the ACTUAL CALL where Russian was running from COE with his pants down. So Unfortunately..WE CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP! It's public record go make yourself a copy!

To Give me a Break.. If there is nothing in their files then it must be because of those great background checks they aren't doing. Instead of checking the files check the INTERNET..run a few of these guys names and see what comes up..AGAIN you will find Court Documents in Martin County and various firings from other departments for GROSS MISCONDUCT and CONDUCT UNBECOMING OF AN OFFICER. Do your own research. As far as how many officer's have made arrests that have held up...really? If there is ever a real crime in Palm Beach Shores they call in PBSO to handle it..even there own Chief knows these guys will bumble a big investigation.
Wasn't Coe the one who made the story up about Lerner in hopes his buddy Russian the Batterer would get hired on Full Time?
It's all about the hidden agenda's. Check the files of the Departments they came from previously..not just the personnel files at the Shores, go down to Broward, go over to Rivera Beach, Manalapan, etc. check those personnel files then you will see just what great backgrounds your boys have...(If their backgrounds are so great then why have they all been applying at other departments and NOT HIRED! here is the clue..NO OTHER DEPARTMENT WILL HIRE THEM that is why they are STILL EMPLOYED in PALM BEACH SHORES they aren't going anywhere so don't worry, no credible department wants these MISFITS!)

Unfortunately the truth will set you free..so obviously the COPS in PALM BEACH SHORES shall forever be PRISONERS! Wasn't it Coe and Russian who made up a FALSE ALLEGATION which ended up being an Internal Affairs Investigations about monkey business going on in DISPATCH! These guys need help, and so does the TOWN for HIRING THEM!

[quote="Anonymous"]Give me a break… Great idea about looking at their files! In their files (the same files the PD looked at and Police Academies looked at and FDLE looked at) will show none of this nonsense that you are talking about! Do you really think that a convicted felon could be a police officer?! Do you really think that someone convicted of Domestic Battery could still be a police officer?! The answer is NO! Fiers was never convicted of any felonies. Whether you like him or not make no mistake Fiers is no idiot! You do not get where he was being a moron. (Ex. Ohio State, Marine Corp, head of the CIA South American division…) I feel sorry for him having to deal with such absurdity! Det Coe, I don’t care if your boss at McDonald’s offers you the head fry promotion at work, you take it! Coe is one of the most productive officers in this town (check out all the stats by the way and see which officers do what…) and when his boss offered him the detective job of course you take it! How many arrests has Coe had? How many of his arrests and other officer’s arrests did not hold up because of “shady” backgrounds? NONE! You few miserable people are just hurting the good citizens of this town by posting this nonsense. You are hurting them not because you are bringing “evil things” to the light; you are hurting them because you feel you can trash good productive people to get your agenda across. While Russian was a new, unpaid police officer working with the department a rumor went around town that he was gay. It was said that is why he and his wife were getting divorced. It went as far as a rainbow being put on his locker. Whalen caught wind of this and became excited because he is a known bi-sexual and has an open relationship with him and his wife. Whalen made several homosexual advances on Russian, even inviting Russian to accompany him on a trip to Fantasy Fest in Key West. Each time Russian turned down his advances, this infuriated Whalen. Whalen became jealous especially when Russian started a relationship with a female who worked in town. Whalen ran with a false story about how Russian ran away from officers with his pants down while looking in windows. The other part of this jealous love quadrangle is that the female whom Russian was and is still dating was hit on numerous times by the then assistant Fire Chief Piro. Piro exhausted many sexual advances on Russian’s girlfriend while she worked at town hall. Piro became frustrated by being shot down by the female! Side note: These actions of hitting on and hooking up with local women have not ended on Piro’s part. Mrs. Piro what do you think your husband is up to while spending all of those nights out drinking at the Palm Beach Shores Resort and the Sea Spray? The fact that Whalen and Piro are friends and were turned down by both Russian and his girlfriend has led to a smear campaign on this young, hard working part time police officer/dispatcher. Couple that with the fact that Whalen, Piro and ex Palm Beach Shores fire man Salmon all have “open” bi-sexual relationships with their wives makes it interesting that they would make up stories of officers having sex parties, knowing full well that these swinging trios have had these parties at the Palm Beach Shores Resorts and the Sea Spray Hotel throughout the years… While on the topic of sex scandals among local residents and people running for commissionerships how about Lurcher and her having sex with a former officer while on duty!! In his patrol car!!! In the beach lot parking lot!!!! Way to not see that egregious act taking place “Chuck” in the Mayan… Oh wait he was too busy looking out for parking violations… What experience does Janet have? Bartending and swinging with her liar/deadbeat husband Salmon?? The same Salmon that was kicked out of the fire department by his peers!? The same Salmon that spearheaded a similar smear campaign over the fire Chief due to the fact that Marty wanted to really train his guys on Tuesday nights not just get drunk?! Then there is Sue in town hall, hey how is your husband been treating you lately? Any bruises we need to know about? Sue’s husband is a real dirt bag who lives in the Mayan and is a known Domestic Violence offender not to mention that he partook in some other illegal activities… I feel bad for Sue, this may add to her less than chipper attitude while at work. At what point does all this stop? At what point do people who may have valid issues with town officials and commissioners stop running their local police officers through the ringer just because they have an “agenda”? These few swinging/lying/miserable people even had the nerve to bring in the police officer’s innocent families/girlfriends and post where they live! That is sickening!! Has anyone making these allegations asked these police officers/commissioners/Firemen about these accusations in person? NO! They post on a blog…[/quote]

Your an idiot = http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/walsh/chap_19.htm "Chief Judge Aubrey E. Robinson, Jr., sentenced Fiers to one hundred hours of community service to be performed within one year of his sentence. Fiers was pardoned by President Bush on December 24, 1992." Alan is a very smart man but was convicted and pardoned> Fact and as for the Piro charge, only Mindy would know if these advances really happened so this must have been posted by Mindy, so Mindy you may be asked to appear in the libel suit that I hear is coming from Town Hall and I will call or stop by to reconfirm these charges that Mr. Piro made adavnces on you so please have dates and witnesses. As for the experience of Janet Kortenhaus: http://thecoaster.net/wordpress/2006/10 ... ean-grove/ so obviously you are an idiot that doesn't know how to Google. As for Mr. Salmon, I don't know him personally, but his father was a strong supporter of the Fire Department, Rotary, and Police Pension Board, and personal friends with me, Tom Mills, George Sylvester and Chuck Platner because I was a member of the Singer Island Rotary Club, and I think there is a big difference between looking for facts on officers and Commissioners, and personal attacks on people's families. Whether people are "swingers" and whether an officer beat his wife are two seperate issues. Obviously you are either an officer, Mindy or a Firemen related to one of the people mentioned. You post "Has anyone making these allegations asked these police officers/commissioners/Firemen about these accusations in person? NO! They post on a blog" Only the people involved would know if they have been asked, because I have asked the Mayor and Com. Fiers and they have "no commet" but I will ask some officer, Mindy and some firemen and I will post their opinions and names.
Chuck in Mayan.

[quote="Anonymous"][quote="Anonymous"] Oweee ... You sound truly frustated. Give me a break… Great idea about looking at their files! In their files (the same files the PD looked at and Police Academies looked at and FDLE looked at) will show none of this nonsense that you are talking about! Do you really think that a convicted felon could be a police officer?! Do you really think that someone convicted of Domestic Battery could still be a police officer?! The answer is NO! Fiers was never convicted of any felonies. Whether you like him or not make no mistake Fiers is no idiot! You do not get where he was being a moron. (Ex. Ohio State, Marine Corp, head of the CIA South American division…) I feel sorry for him having to deal with such absurdity! Det Coe, I don’t care if your boss at McDonald’s offers you the head fry promotion at work, you take it! Coe is one of the most productive officers in this town (check out all the stats by the way and see which officers do what…) and when his boss offered him the detective job of course you take it! How many arrests has Coe had? How many of his arrests and other officer’s arrests did not hold up because of “shady” backgrounds? NONE! You few miserable people are just hurting the good citizens of this town by posting this nonsense. You are hurting them not because you are bringing “evil things” to the light; you are hurting them because you feel you can trash good productive people to get your agenda across. While Russian was a new, unpaid police officer working with the department a rumor went around town that he was gay. It was said that is why he and his wife were getting divorced. It went as far as a rainbow being put on his locker. Whalen caught wind of this and became excited because he is a known bi-sexual and has an open relationship with him and his wife. Whalen made several homosexual advances on Russian, even inviting Russian to accompany him on a trip to Fantasy Fest in Key West. Each time Russian turned down his advances, this infuriated Whalen. Whalen became jealous especially when Russian started a relationship with a female who worked in town. Whalen ran with a false story about how Russian ran away from officers with his pants down while looking in windows. The other part of this jealous love quadrangle is that the female whom Russian was and is still dating was hit on numerous times by the then assistant Fire Chief Piro. Piro exhausted many sexual advances on Russian’s girlfriend while she worked at town hall. Piro became frustrated by being shot down by the female! Side note: These actions of hitting on and hooking up with local women have not ended on Piro’s part. Mrs. Piro what do you think your husband is up to while spending all of those nights out drinking at the Palm Beach Shores Resort and the Sea Spray? The fact that Whalen and Piro are friends and were turned down by both Russian and his girlfriend has led to a smear campaign on this young, hard working part time police officer/dispatcher. Couple that with the fact that Whalen, Piro and ex Palm Beach Shores fire man Salmon all have “open” bi-sexual relationships with their wives makes it interesting that they would make up stories of officers having sex parties, knowing full well that these swinging trios have had these parties at the Palm Beach Shores Resorts and the Sea Spray Hotel throughout the years… While on the topic of sex scandals among local residents and people running for commissionerships how about Lurcher and her having sex with a former officer while on duty!! In his patrol car!!! In the beach lot parking lot!!!! Way to not see that egregious act taking place “Chuck” in the Mayan… Oh wait he was too busy looking out for parking violations… What experience does Janet have? Bartending and swinging with her liar/deadbeat husband Salmon?? The same Salmon that was kicked out of the fire department by his peers!? The same Salmon that spearheaded a similar smear campaign over the fire Chief due to the fact that Marty wanted to really train his guys on Tuesday nights not just get drunk?! Then there is Sue in town hall, hey how is your husband been treating you lately? Any bruises we need to know about? Sue’s husband is a real dirt bag who lives in the Mayan and is a known Domestic Violence offender not to mention that he partook in some other illegal activities… I feel bad for Sue, this may add to her less than chipper attitude while at work. At what point does all this stop? At what point do people who may have valid issues with town officials and commissioners stop running their local police officers through the ringer just because they have an “agenda”? These few swinging/lying/miserable people even had the nerve to bring in the police officer’s innocent families/girlfriends and post where they live! That is sickening!! Has anyone making these allegations asked these police officers/commissioners/Firemen about these accusations in person? NO! They post on a blog…[/quote][/quote]
I heard the Fire Chief kicked off 7 memebrs of the fire department because they said he was spending to much money and the budget is over inflated by 60 thousand dollars, ontop of losing over 7 thousand dollars on there fundraisers and failing the fire marshals test 3 times? is any of this true?

You are wrong again..there is an initial 911 call from the resident who thought Russian was peeping in the windows and then there are the radio transmissions from the actual call in progress..check those out and make yourself a copy..I can probably supply you with a copy of those radio transmissions if you'd like!

To funny the biggest blog post is from the MORON who has the rose colored glasses on! Check into those radio transmissions..instead of run forest run on that particular night it was run RUSSIAN run..trying to keep from getting caught with his pants down and having it get back to his then wife!

I think we should all hear the call maybe they can play it on cop talk radio! It's public information and can be obtained with a public information request. Thank goodness I have a copy, rest assured the original call will probably disappear from the police files just like copies of reports, personnel files and other things. Funny how anything implementing anybody convieneitly gets lost over there. Here's a thought maybe we should suggest an IA and have the dispatcher who was on duty swear under oath this never happened! How about that? As was previously stated by someone before me..It's First Hand Knowledge...We Can't Make This Stuff Up!

[quote="Anonymous"][quote="Anonymous"][quote="Anonymous"] Oweee ... You sound truly frustated. Give me a break… Great idea about looking at their files! In their files (the same files the PD looked at and Police Academies looked at and FDLE looked at) will show none of this nonsense that you are talking about! Do you really think that a convicted felon could be a police officer?! Do you really think that someone convicted of Domestic Battery could still be a police officer?! The answer is NO! Fiers was never convicted of any felonies. Whether you like him or not make no mistake Fiers is no idiot! You do not get where he was being a moron. (Ex. Ohio State, Marine Corp, head of the CIA South American division…) I feel sorry for him having to deal with such absurdity! Det Coe, I don’t care if your boss at McDonald’s offers you the head fry promotion at work, you take it! Coe is one of the most productive officers in this town (check out all the stats by the way and see which officers do what…) and when his boss offered him the detective job of course you take it! How many arrests has Coe had? How many of his arrests and other officer’s arrests did not hold up because of “shady” backgrounds? NONE! You few miserable people are just hurting the good citizens of this town by posting this nonsense. You are hurting them not because you are bringing “evil things” to the light; you are hurting them because you feel you can trash good productive people to get your agenda across. While Russian was a new, unpaid police officer working with the department a rumor went around town that he was gay. It was said that is why he and his wife were getting divorced. It went as far as a rainbow being put on his locker. Whalen caught wind of this and became excited because he is a known bi-sexual and has an open relationship with him and his wife. Whalen made several homosexual advances on Russian, even inviting Russian to accompany him on a trip to Fantasy Fest in Key West. Each time Russian turned down his advances, this infuriated Whalen. Whalen became jealous especially when Russian started a relationship with a female who worked in town. Whalen ran with a false story about how Russian ran away from officers with his pants down while looking in windows. The other part of this jealous love quadrangle is that the female whom Russian was and is still dating was hit on numerous times by the then assistant Fire Chief Piro. Piro exhausted many sexual advances on Russian’s girlfriend while she worked at town hall. Piro became frustrated by being shot down by the female! Side note: These actions of hitting on and hooking up with local women have not ended on Piro’s part. Mrs. Piro what do you think your husband is up to while spending all of those nights out drinking at the Palm Beach Shores Resort and the Sea Spray? The fact that Whalen and Piro are friends and were turned down by both Russian and his girlfriend has led to a smear campaign on this young, hard working part time police officer/dispatcher. Couple that with the fact that Whalen, Piro and ex Palm Beach Shores fire man Salmon all have “open” bi-sexual relationships with their wives makes it interesting that they would make up stories of officers having sex parties, knowing full well that these swinging trios have had these parties at the Palm Beach Shores Resorts and the Sea Spray Hotel throughout the years… While on the topic of sex scandals among local residents and people running for commissionerships how about Lurcher and her having sex with a former officer while on duty!! In his patrol car!!! In the beach lot parking lot!!!! Way to not see that egregious act taking place “Chuck” in the Mayan… Oh wait he was too busy looking out for parking violations… What experience does Janet have? Bartending and swinging with her liar/deadbeat husband Salmon?? The same Salmon that was kicked out of the fire department by his peers!? The same Salmon that spearheaded a similar smear campaign over the fire Chief due to the fact that Marty wanted to really train his guys on Tuesday nights not just get drunk?! Then there is Sue in town hall, hey how is your husband been treating you lately? Any bruises we need to know about? Sue’s husband is a real dirt bag who lives in the Mayan and is a known Domestic Violence offender not to mention that he partook in some other illegal activities… I feel bad for Sue, this may add to her less than chipper attitude while at work. At what point does all this stop? At what point do people who may have valid issues with town officials and commissioners stop running their local police officers through the ringer just because they have an “agenda”? These few swinging/lying/miserable people even had the nerve to bring in the police officer’s innocent families/girlfriends and post where they live! That is sickening!! Has anyone making these allegations asked these police officers/commissioners/Firemen about these accusations in person? NO! They post on a blog…[/quote][/quote]
I heard the Fire Chief kicked off 7 memebrs of the fire department because they said he was spending to much money and the budget is over inflated by 60 thousand dollars, ontop of losing over 7 thousand dollars on there fundraisers and failing the fire marshals test 3 times? is any of this true?[/quote]

It sure is..probably over budget due to that new SUV they bought him and that nice new office they are putting on for him next to his FIRE MOMMA'S OFFICE CINDY LINDSKOOG! Hey do you think the this Chief and his wife and Cindy Lindskoog are SWINGER'S TO? Just wondering?? Maybe Mindy can clarify that for us all as well? Since Russian and Mindy are frequently seen out with the Mayor Workman..maybe there having a Threesome? No wonder Russian hasn't lost his job yet!

To BadVolf: http://www.mlive.com/news/livingston/in ... n_del.html
How can I send you items on this crook. I have some audios on his firing and his belittleing of the Authority Board, BAFD articles for termination, Allen Park paperwork showing there displeasure with him, his outrage at being unseated from the SEMFCA and numerous files on how dangerous he truly is. He may kill someone someday and will bilk anyone he works for.
Brighton Michigan

[quote="Anonymous"]To BadVolf: http://www.mlive.com/news/livingston/in ... n_del.html
How can I send you items on this crook. I have some audios on his firing and his belittleing of the Authority Board, BAFD articles for termination, Allen Park paperwork showing there displeasure with him, his outrage at being unseated from the SEMFCA and numerous files on how dangerous he truly is. He may kill someone someday and will bilk anyone he works for.
Brighton Michigan[/quote]

You are sad and mean spirited people who have nothing better to do but hide behind your atonomy and trash other people, to the detriment of Palm Beach Shores. And some of you should be very careful, you are stepping over a dangerous line and you are not quite as hidden as you think you are.

[Note from the moderator - PBSO tried the same scare tactics, trying to scare you into believing you are vulnerable by posting on this site. The absolute truth is you are not. We have taken every measure to make sure you have absolute anonymity, including not logging IP addresses, encryption, offshore hosting that don't honor US subpoenas and all sorts of other countermeasures to protect you from bullys of the badge. Post away without fear!]edited by BadVolf on 4/15/2012

[quote="Anonymous"]You are sad and mean spirited people who have nothing better to do but hide behind your atonomy and trash other people, to the detriment of Palm Beach Shores. And some of you should be very careful, you are stepping over a dangerous line and you are not quite as hidden as you think you are.

[Note from the moderator - PBSO tried the same scare tactics, trying to scare you into believing you are vulnerable by posting on this site. The absolute truth is you are not. We have taken every measure to make sure you have absolute anonymity, including not logging IP addresses, encryption, offshore hosting that don't honor US subpoenas and all sorts of other countermeasures to protect you from bullys of the badge. Post away without fear!] edited by BadVolf on 4/15/2012[/quote]

Hiding behind our anonymity? Interesting I didn't see your name on that post? We aren't mean spirited we just think the residents need to know what fine outstanding officers they have protecting them. I'm sorry if the truth hurts.

That's what people relinquish themselves to when the truth starts being told scare tactics last I knew freedom of speech was protected by the first amendment and we don't need protection everything we are writing about other than the nonsense posted by Mindy is documented and factual in 911 recordings, radio transmissions, police personnel files, court documents and newspaper articles so the truth seems to be setting everyone free other than those who work on the palm beach shores police department that is. Fear not just like the rats will continue chasing the cheese we will continue to let the unethical conduct be exposed. How did that false allegation about the monkey business work out? Coe said he wasn't afraid to speak up if he thought something unethical by an officer was being done? Guess making about false allegations about another officer and a dispatcher when you and your buddy were having sex parties at the Mayan doesn't count. Sooner or later what goes around comes around.

[quote="Anonymous"]That's what people relinquish themselves to when the truth starts being told scare tactics last I knew freedom of speech was protected by the first amendment and we don't need protection everything we are writing about other than the nonsense posted by Mindy is documented and factual in 911 recordings, radio transmissions, police personnel files, court documents and newspaper articles so the truth seems to be setting everyone free other than those who work on the palm beach shores police department that is. Fear not just like the rats will continue chasing the cheese we will continue to let the unethical conduct be exposed. How did that false allegation about the monkey business work out? Coe said he wasn't afraid to speak up if he thought something unethical by an officer was being done? Guess making about false allegations about another officer and a dispatcher when you and your buddy were having sex parties at the Mayan doesn't count. Sooner or later what goes around comes around.[/quote]

If these cops are SO corrupt & shady I find it interesting that you are not afraid of them retaliating. I mean it's not like they don't know who you people are and it's not like they don't carry guns or couldn't beat the crap out of you. I'm just saying as someone looking from the outside in, i wouldn't mess with cops let alone "corrupt" cops that get away with as much as you say they do. And you keep bringing in a deputies girlfriend by name as if she were a cop, that really shows your class! I give that deputy and all other deputies a ton of credit for not going after you yet because of that! I'm just saying.

[quote="Anonymous"][quote="Anonymous"][quote="Anonymous"] Oweee ... You sound truly frustated. Give me a break… Great idea about looking at their files! In their files (the same files the PD looked at and Police Academies looked at and FDLE looked at) will show none of this nonsense that you are talking about! Do you really think that a convicted felon could be a police officer?! Do you really think that someone convicted of Domestic Battery could still be a police officer?! The answer is NO! Fiers was never convicted of any felonies. Whether you like him or not make no mistake Fiers is no idiot! You do not get where he was being a moron. (Ex. Ohio State, Marine Corp, head of the CIA South American division…) I feel sorry for him having to deal with such absurdity! Det Coe, I don’t care if your boss at McDonald’s offers you the head fry promotion at work, you take it! Coe is one of the most productive officers in this town (check out all the stats by the way and see which officers do what…) and when his boss offered him the detective job of course you take it! How many arrests has Coe had? How many of his arrests and other officer’s arrests did not hold up because of “shady” backgrounds? NONE! You few miserable people are just hurting the good citizens of this town by posting this nonsense. You are hurting them not because you are bringing “evil things” to the light; you are hurting them because you feel you can trash good productive people to get your agenda across. While Russian was a new, unpaid police officer working with the department a rumor went around town that he was gay. It was said that is why he and his wife were getting divorced. It went as far as a rainbow being put on his locker. Whalen caught wind of this and became excited because he is a known bi-sexual and has an open relationship with him and his wife. Whalen made several homosexual advances on Russian, even inviting Russian to accompany him on a trip to Fantasy Fest in Key West. Each time Russian turned down his advances, this infuriated Whalen. Whalen became jealous especially when Russian started a relationship with a female who worked in town. Whalen ran with a false story about how Russian ran away from officers with his pants down while looking in windows. The other part of this jealous love quadrangle is that the female whom Russian was and is still dating was hit on numerous times by the then assistant Fire Chief Piro. Piro exhausted many sexual advances on Russian’s girlfriend while she worked at town hall. Piro became frustrated by being shot down by the female! Side note: These actions of hitting on and hooking up with local women have not ended on Piro’s part. Mrs. Piro what do you think your husband is up to while spending all of those nights out drinking at the Palm Beach Shores Resort and the Sea Spray? The fact that Whalen and Piro are friends and were turned down by both Russian and his girlfriend has led to a smear campaign on this young, hard working part time police officer/dispatcher. Couple that with the fact that Whalen, Piro and ex Palm Beach Shores fire man Salmon all have “open” bi-sexual relationships with their wives makes it interesting that they would make up stories of officers having sex parties, knowing full well that these swinging trios have had these parties at the Palm Beach Shores Resorts and the Sea Spray Hotel throughout the years… While on the topic of sex scandals among local residents and people running for commissionerships how about Lurcher and her having sex with a former officer while on duty!! In his patrol car!!! In the beach lot parking lot!!!! Way to not see that egregious act taking place “Chuck” in the Mayan… Oh wait he was too busy looking out for parking violations… What experience does Janet have? Bartending and swinging with her liar/deadbeat husband Salmon?? The same Salmon that was kicked out of the fire department by his peers!? The same Salmon that spearheaded a similar smear campaign over the fire Chief due to the fact that Marty wanted to really train his guys on Tuesday nights not just get drunk?! Then there is Sue in town hall, hey how is your husband been treating you lately? Any bruises we need to know about? Sue’s husband is a real dirt bag who lives in the Mayan and is a known Domestic Violence offender not to mention that he partook in some other illegal activities… I feel bad for Sue, this may add to her less than chipper attitude while at work. At what point does all this stop? At what point do people who may have valid issues with town officials and commissioners stop running their local police officers through the ringer just because they have an “agenda”? These few swinging/lying/miserable people even had the nerve to bring in the police officer’s innocent families/girlfriends and post where they live! That is sickening!! Has anyone making these allegations asked these police officers/commissioners/Firemen about these accusations in person? NO! They post on a blog…[/quote][/quote]
I heard the Fire Chief kicked off 7 memebrs of the fire department because they said he was spending to much money and the budget is over inflated by 60 thousand dollars, ontop of losing over 7 thousand dollars on there fundraisers and failing the fire marshals test 3 times? is any of this true?[/quote]
No, 6 were kicked off for various trumped up charges, and 1 flat out resigned. To no fan fare from PBS. In 3 months over 80 years of FF exp. went out the door. replaced by 20 year old kids who couldn't even drive the Engines. As for the fire marshall stuff, In aug of 2010, Deroach was given 12 months to get his Fire Insp. cert. Aug 2011, he was put on full time, with Glen Aitken as Fire Insp. WHY? fraud, not till Nov. 21 did Mr. DeRoach finally pass his state boards. That's 4 months of wastefull spending and possible fraud. ALL fact no swingers and red herring The sad part is the Town commission was warned of this and did nothing. Read the article from Mlive. We here in Livingston County know all to much of him and tried to warn the fair citizens but two of your commission dismissed our plea and now you got him like a bad case of the fleas. It's all in your town commission meeting minutes which apparently no one reads. to quote apfire guy "he is a devisive cancer of a chief. his arrogance is legendary. i have never met a more shallow human in all my life."

[quote="Anonymous"]If these cops are SO corrupt & shady I find it interesting that you are not afraid of them retaliating. I mean it's not like they don't know who you people are and it's not like they don't carry guns or couldn't beat the crap out of you. I'm just saying as someone looking from the outside in, i wouldn't mess with cops let alone "corrupt" cops that get away with as much as you say they do. And you keep bringing in a deputies girlfriend by name as if she were a cop, that really shows your class! I give that deputy and all other deputies a ton of credit for not going after you yet because of that! I'm just saying.[/quote]

Rest assured you must be confused. These are small town corrupt police officers, not deputies. Please don't confuse the two. You have the Gomer Pyle Department (aka Palm Beach Shores) these guys could never be hired as Deputies. They would have to pass the background check first. Rumor has it most have tried none have passed, which is why they are Copland Career Criminals. Hopefully by now they have figured out in order to work anywhere else, they would have to acquire ethics, and adhere to standards, yeah pretty sure they will all be retiring in Palm Beach Shores. Again please don't confuse these bafoons with Deputies. One of these things is definetly not like the other.

Hey who did the Fire Chief's background check?? anybody know? let me guess..another fine member of the Palm Beach Shores Police Department..yup..way to go guys another screwed up background you didn't bother following up on!

[quote="Anonymous"][quote="Anonymous"]If these cops are SO corrupt & shady I find it interesting that you are not afraid of them retaliating. I mean it's not like they don't know who you people are and it's not like they don't carry guns or couldn't beat the crap out of you. I'm just saying as someone looking from the outside in, i wouldn't mess with cops let alone "corrupt" cops that get away with as much as you say they do. And you keep bringing in a deputies girlfriend by name as if she were a cop, that really shows your class! I give that deputy and all other deputies a ton of credit for not going after you yet because of that! I'm just saying.[/quote]

Rest assured you must be confused. These are small town corrupt police officers, not deputies. Please don't confuse the two. You have the Gomer Pyle Department (aka Palm Beach Shores) these guys could never be hired as Deputies. They would have to pass the background check first. Rumor has it most have tried none have passed, which is why they are Copland Career Criminals. Hopefully by now they have figured out in order to work anywhere else, they would have to acquire ethics, and adhere to standards, yeah pretty sure they will all be retiring in Palm Beach Shores. Again please don't confuse these bafoons with Deputies. One of these things is definetly not like the other.[/quote]
Why be afraid, the 2nd amendment gives us the right to bear arms, and the the 4th amendment protects us against unreasonable search and seizure, and the 1st Amendment gives us free speech so bear an arm, and speak freely.

[quote="Anonymous"]Hey who did the Fire Chief's background check?? anybody know? let me guess..another fine member of the Palm Beach Shores Police Department..yup..way to go guys another screwed up background you didn't bother following up on![/quote) Off Kelly cleared the DaRoach, of criminal charges but told Mngr. Linbsoog of possible civil charges and was told that the Marty was "sandbagged" in Brighton. As of April of '11, he was in Michigan fighting the corruption charge with Ca Charlie's. Then in A Dec. 11 POA meeting, He stated " I resigned and ....was asked back but declined. LIE after LIE. But the Commission still backs his BS, with Com. Direul still wanting more money, for 70 calls a year. PS the budget is at 270,000 plus the 100,000 we pay the Riviera for a backup for 48 calls. On top ofthat we don't even have an emergency vehicle for the chief, i.e They are identified by lights and siren neither are on the vehicle check Fl St. Statue. Mindy stated to me, she has no knowledge nor was she ever hit on by Tom Pirro and denied any knowledge of this site. Next my interview with Mr. Russian, Mr Fiers and Mr Workman

[quote="Anonymous"][quote="Anonymous"][quote="Anonymous"]If these cops are SO corrupt & shady I find it interesting that you are not afraid of them retaliating. I mean it's not like they don't know who you people are and it's not like they don't carry guns or couldn't beat the crap out of you. I'm just saying as someone looking from the outside in, i wouldn't mess with cops let alone "corrupt" cops that get away with as much as you say they do. And you keep bringing in a deputies girlfriend by name as if she were a cop, that really shows your class! I give that deputy and all other deputies a ton of credit for not going after you yet because of that! I'm just saying.[/quote]

Rest assured you must be confused. These are small town corrupt police officers, not deputies. Please don't confuse the two. You have the Gomer Pyle Department (aka Palm Beach Shores) these guys could never be hired as Deputies. They would have to pass the background check first. Rumor has it most have tried none have passed, which is why they are Copland Career Criminals. Hopefully by now they have figured out in order to work anywhere else, they would have to acquire ethics, and adhere to standards, yeah pretty sure they will all be retiring in Palm Beach Shores. Again please don't confuse these bafoons with Deputies. One of these things is definetly not like the other.[/quote]
Why be afraid, the 2nd amendment gives us the right to bear arms, and the the 4th amendment protects us against unreasonable search and seizure, and the 1st Amendment gives us free speech so bear an arm, and speak freely.[/quote]
If I was Mr. Russian, I would show my DD-214, That I have verified from Sparta and his wife, not good. If I was him, I would pronounce my innocense since his wife didn't press charges yet she filed a restraining order, Which is normal since he does carry a gun, and he has his day in court.
Mindy denies any knowledge of "Misconduct" of Tom Pirro and does not recall a suspicious call including Mr. Russian, and stated she hardly knew Mr. Pirro, and about Mr. Russian's background: and stated
" He treats me like a woman" and its outrageous what is said on this website.
Next Off. Russian and Chief Kniffen
So if he did 10-14 we need a date and approx. time I'll get the true facts. FOI always works its the law
Chuck at Mayan

[quote="Anonymous"][quote="Anonymous"]Hey who did the Fire Chief's background check?? anybody know? let me guess..another fine member of the Palm Beach Shores Police Department..yup..way to go guys another screwed up background you didn't bother following up on![/quote) Off Kelly cleared the DaRoach, of criminal charges but told Mngr. Linbsoog of possible civil charges and was told that the Marty was "sandbagged" in Brighton. As of April of '11, he was in Michigan fighting the corruption charge with Ca Charlie's. Then in A Dec. 11 POA meeting, He stated " I resigned and ....was asked back but declined. LIE after LIE. But the Commission still backs his BS, with Com. Direul still wanting more money, for 70 calls a year. PS the budget is at 270,000 plus the 100,000 we pay the Riviera for a backup for 48 calls. On top ofthat we don't even have an emergency vehicle for the chief, i.e They are identified by lights and siren neither are on the vehicle check Fl St. Statue. Mindy stated to me, she has no knowledge nor was she ever hit on by Tom Pirro and denied any knowledge of this site. Next my interview with Mr. Russian, Mr Fiers and Mr Workman[/quote]

Interview away..interesting she has no knowledge of the site. Tread lightly on your future interviews and don't expect to get the truth. I appreciate your tenacity and wish you well. These guys are so used to covering their tracks with BS it is like second nature, to bad you couldn't get them to take a voice stress anaylis test ..but then again I hear they take zanax when they are forewarned that they will be subject to take a lie detector test, which we know makes the results inconclusive..maybe you should ask Russian about that to..

[quote="Anonymous"][quote="Anonymous"]Hey who did the Fire Chief's background check?? anybody know? let me guess..another fine member of the Palm Beach Shores Police Department..yup..way to go guys another screwed up background you didn't bother following up on![/quote) Off Kelly cleared the DaRoach, of criminal charges but told Mngr. Linbsoog of possible civil charges and was told that the Marty was "sandbagged" in Brighton. As of April of '11, he was in Michigan fighting the corruption charge with Ca Charlie's. Then in A Dec. 11 POA meeting, He stated " I resigned and ....was asked back but declined. LIE after LIE. But the Commission still backs his BS, with Com. Direul still wanting more money, for 70 calls a year. PS the budget is at 270,000 plus the 100,000 we pay the Riviera for a backup for 48 calls. On top ofthat we don't even have an emergency vehicle for the chief, i.e They are identified by lights and siren neither are on the vehicle check Fl St. Statue. Mindy stated to me, she has no knowledge nor was she ever hit on by Tom Pirro and denied any knowledge of this site. Next my interview with Mr. Russian, Mr Fiers and Mr Workman[/quote]

Please take a tape recorder with you on these interviews...get them on tape and supply them to the moderator of this site so we can all hear what these clowns have to say.

[quote="Anonymous"][quote="Anonymous"][quote="Anonymous"][quote
This is Russian, you say you interviewed my girlfriend PLEASE interview me. He's on all weekend!

=]If these cops are SO corrupt & shady I find it interesting that you are not afraid of them retaliating. I mean it's not like they don't know who you people are and it's not like they don't carry guns or couldn't beat the crap out of you. I'm just saying as someone looking from the outside in, i wouldn't mess with cops let alone "corrupt" cops that get away with as much as you say they do. And you keep bringing in a deputies girlfriend by name as if she were a cop, that really shows your class! I give that deputy and all other deputies a ton of credit for not going after you yet because of that! I'm just saying.[/quote]

Rest assured you must be confused. These are small town corrupt police officers, not deputies. Please don't confuse the two. You have the Gomer Pyle Department (aka Palm Beach Shores) these guys could never be hired as Deputies. They would have to pass the background check first. Rumor has it most have tried none have passed, which is why they are Copland Career Criminals. Hopefully by now they have figured out in order to work anywhere else, they would have to acquire ethics, and adhere to standards, yeah pretty sure they will all be retiring in Palm Beach Shores. Again please don't confuse these bafoons with Deputies. One of these things is definetly not like the other.[/quote]
Why be afraid, the 2nd amendment gives us the right to bear arms, and the the 4th amendment protects us against unreasonable search and seizure, and the 1st Amendment gives us free speech so bear an arm, and speak freely.[/quote]
If I was Mr. Russian, I would show my DD-214, That I have verified from Sparta and his wife, not good. If I was him, I would pronounce my innocense since his wife didn't press charges yet she filed a restraining order, Which is normal since he does carry a gun, and he has his day in court.
Mindy denies any knowledge of "Misconduct" of Tom Pirro and does not recall a suspicious call including Mr. Russian, and stated she hardly knew Mr. Pirro, and about Mr. Russian's background: and stated
" He treats me like a woman" and its outrageous what is said on this website.
Next Off. Russian and Chief Kniffen
So if he did 10-14 we need a date and approx. time I'll get the true facts. FOI always works its the law
Chuck at Mayan[/quote]

Of course they are going to deny the phone call..trust me it exists and so do the radio recordings..unless of course they have been misteriously erased like some of the other incriminating **** that happens..once it incriminates one of the rats the evidence ends up disappearing. Again who would want to make this stuff up..seriously? Who would want the Public to know you live in a town where the cops are bumbling idiots..it's embarassing to live here that is why we are telling the on-goings hoping somebody will step up and address the issues and take the proper ramifications against these morons but knowing the end result will remain the same.