tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7602886877359920483.post1812461850022697990..comments2009-07-14T12:19:11.863-07:00Comments on Giles Bowkett: Celibacy Considered HarmfulGiles Bowkettnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7602886877359920483.post-92158885361322928112007-03-29T09:43:00.000-07:002007-03-29T09:43:00.000-07:00Just want to add one more comment, in case people ...Just want to add one more comment, in case people read this. It's satire. I don't actually think we should all pass laws requiring men to have sex with hookers. What I do think is that there's something twisted and wrong in a situation where it is considered socially acceptable to terrify innocent people with images and descriptions of themselves being subjected to sexual violence. Most bloggers sympathize with Kathy, but a lot of people who aren't posting are just like, well, hey, it's just the Internet. The thing is, in a different society with different values, you might look at paying for sex and say, well, hey, it's just sex. I think a society like that might actually be safer. People who are getting laid are safer to be around than people who are not. I mean the stuff about hookers is a joke and yet it's not a joke. What if it's true? It's just an exaggeration of the way sex and violence are in movies. You'll get an R rating much faster with a little sex than you will with a lot of violence, and parents who let their kids see R-rated violence routinely shit bricks if their kids even get close to porn. That set of values is exactly the opposite of what it should be. If it was the other way around, we'd probably have a safer world.Giles Bowketthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06462574543661010181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7602886877359920483.post-14653255250121660132007-03-29T01:41:00.000-07:002007-03-29T01:41:00.000-07:00@joe - the goal is not to cure stalkers but to pre...@joe - the goal is not to cure stalkers but to prevent them from happening. an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. the idea is that not getting laid makes people crazy; not getting laid is therefore a dangerous thing to do which threatens the entire community, and should therefore be against the law.<BR/><BR/>(I thought that was obvious.)Giles Bowketthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06462574543661010181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7602886877359920483.post-40049530226024340422007-03-28T06:20:00.000-07:002007-03-28T06:20:00.000-07:00Given the very specific (and inherent) focus of st...Given the very specific (and inherent) focus of stalking, how would screwing a random prostitute sate someone's obsession with an entirely different person?Joehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16355362807496413582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7602886877359920483.post-62484678175126949972007-03-27T16:08:00.000-07:002007-03-27T16:08:00.000-07:00It's a whole-hearted joke. I never do anything hal...It's a whole-hearted joke. I never do anything half-heartedly.<BR/><BR/>I do actually think it would work, though. The most honest moments in a man's life are the moments directly following orgasm from intercourse. Scientific fact. The logistics are ridiculous, court-ordered prostitution? Of course I'm kidding. But reducing aggression and increasing honesty across the board? Of course that would lower the overall number of stalkers. I'm absolutely certain that honest, gentle people are at a lower risk for becoming stalkers. That's practically tautological.Giles Bowketthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06462574543661010181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7602886877359920483.post-78442683433000653962007-03-27T14:16:00.000-07:002007-03-27T14:16:00.000-07:00I empathize with your statements about sexual repr...I empathize with your statements about sexual repression, though I would say that it's not really repression, but depravation in the usual case.<BR/><BR/>Guys are generally not actively preventing themselves from engaging in sex, but simply either can't or don't know how to go about getting any.<BR/><BR/>I know from experience that this does generate a certain amount of frustration and aggressive behavior, but fucking a prostitute (particularly a "court-ordered" one) isn't going to help.<BR/><BR/>Your idea is an interesting one, but I hope it's really a half-hearted joke.eventualbuddhahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00063052494832142290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7602886877359920483.post-90405456463860223192007-03-27T12:33:00.000-07:002007-03-27T12:33:00.000-07:00"celibacy considered harmful" is an excellent titl..."celibacy considered harmful" is an excellent title.<BR/><BR/>re: kung-fu<BR/><BR/>http://www.violentacres.com/archives/64/how-to-fightengtechhttp://engtech.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7602886877359920483.post-69988353378170863452007-03-27T10:23:00.000-07:002007-03-27T10:23:00.000-07:00More soberly, if it turns out it's more than one p...More soberly, if it turns out it's more than one person, that really is a cogent argument in favor of dudes not getting laid being a threat to society. Because if it is more than one person, you know that not a single one of them has a girlfriend. Do the math. Kathy Sierra's smarter than they are, more successful than they are, **and** she's blonde and good-looking. It's jealousy plus serious mental illness caused by insufficient sexual activity. I was worried the stuff about prostitution might make my post seem sexist, but doesn't the nature of the situation make it an inherently bigger risk for successful, intelligent, independent women? Kathy's blog is one of the best out there, everybody knows that. Her being too scared to post anything or give talks at conferences, it's like psychological vandalism of a valuable community resource. Not to mention a horrible thing to happen to an innocent human being.<BR/><BR/>The flipside of this is my own plan, which is that if I ever have daughters, I'm going to teach them kung fu. Not even for self-defense; for the simple awareness that they can defeat people. I've known women so fierce that if somebody stalked them, I would fear for the stalker's life, not the woman's. Obviously men have more muscle mass and significant advantages in a physical struggle, but it's not really the size of the dog in the fight. It's the size of the fight in the dog.<BR/><BR/>But it's not Kathy Sierra's job to study kung fu, cultivate inner ferocity, and turn herself into some kind of warrior woman when all she wants to do is write about technology and talk about it at conferences. That's something the community should handle automatically. A tech conference should be a place where everyone feels safe.<BR/><BR/>I should have made the title to this "Celibacy Considered Harmful," though. That's what I think the real problem is. It's like, should I turn into a violent psycho? Or should I just get laid? Maybe this post could be taken seriously. Maybe if some idiot really is too mental to choose Door #2 in that scenario, the courts really should just send him off to a court-ordered brothel to get his freak on whether he wants to or not.Giles Bowketthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06462574543661010181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7602886877359920483.post-16560454380512779552007-03-27T09:38:00.000-07:002007-03-27T09:38:00.000-07:00Women stalkers exist also, but that's a whole diff...Women stalkers exist also, but that's a whole different subject. Women's bodies are more complicated than men's bodies, and the court-ordered sex would have to be changed to court-ordered oral sex, as it's the only way to be sure. If somehow the male prostitute employed by the court for these purposes was in fact capable of getting the job done, however, he would almost definitely be stalked. There's a definite catch-22 there, but I'm sure a solution can be found.Giles Bowketthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06462574543661010181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7602886877359920483.post-26395585865965405292007-03-27T07:32:00.000-07:002007-03-27T07:32:00.000-07:00Women stalk each other too (usually over a guy).I ...Women stalk each other too (usually over a guy).<BR/><BR/>I know one guy who was stalked by a girl he went on a few dates with.<BR/><BR/>I've a woman I was dating go through everything I've ever written on the Internet with a fine-toothed comb, taking it all out of context.<BR/><BR/>So it's not that simple.<BR/><BR/>I have seen articles that show that availability of pornography decreases the frequency of rapes.engtechhttp://engtech.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7602886877359920483.post-38719098586486615432007-03-27T07:17:00.000-07:002007-03-27T07:17:00.000-07:00It goes way beyond stalking mate - look how many s...It goes way beyond stalking mate - look how many suicide bombers have turned out to have been massively sexually repressed, for example.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7602886877359920483.post-32322915078887859462007-03-27T06:33:00.000-07:002007-03-27T06:33:00.000-07:00Bravo, Giles.Agreed.Bravo, Giles.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://weblog.raganwald.com/2007/03/ad-hominem.html#kathy" REL="nofollow">Agreed</A>.Reginald Braithwaitehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13132345822387028437noreply@blogger.com