There's been some recent confusion with the old spoiler thread, so I'm kicking off a new one for tonight's premiere. This is going to be the one for folks who've read all the books. So anything anybody might want to talk about is in bounds. Suffice to say, if you haven't read the books, you'll probably want to stay out of here until you do...

I'll bump the old spoiler-free thread shortly in case anybody's interested. For future reference the link to that one is here

They showed the same poison that kills Joffrey in the Cressen scene in the first episode of this season. I noticed it because he takes a little purple crystal and puts it in the wine that he and Melisandre drink, just like the one in Sansa's hairpiece. I wonder if they will have Margary's grandmother as a character, she was a good minor character in the books.

Probably a character they could cut. But, I'm with you. I really like that old bird. I hope they keep her in. Of course, I won't lose any sleep if they don't.

It probably was..they also alluded to the poisoning of Joffrey by talking about a few drops in wine would kill you. I know it's a different type of poison that kills him but it gives you foreshadowing of the future event.

I believe it was Tears of Lys that does Joffrey, which is lethal in any dose. I wanna say that is what killed Jon Arryn too.

New Character List Revealed for Game of Thrones Season Three
Source: EW
May 29, 2012

Winding down its sophomore season with next Sunday's finale, HBO's "Game of Thrones" has already been confirmed to return for a third season in 2013. Today, EW has a special sneak preview at a list of names that fans can expect to make appearances in the epic George R.R. Martin adaptation.

Mance Rayder, Daario Naharis, Edmure Tully, Ser Brynden Tully (The Blackfish), Lady Selyse Florent, Shireen, Olenna Redwyne (The Queen of Thorns), Beric Dondarrion, Thoros of Myr and Jojen and Meera Reed are the characters that are currently planned to play a part in season three, said to adapt events from "A Storm of Swords." The magazine points out, though, that just because a character isn't on that list doesn't mean that he or she won't show up on your television screen next year.

Good; it makes a hell of a lot more sense than creating some weird construct whereby Rickon goes north without Bran and Bran either has no traveling companions apart from Hodor, or Rickon goes north with some random Wildling.

I'm looking forward to their treatment of the Blackfish; dude is one of my favorite characters from the book.

Good; it makes a hell of a lot more sense than creating some weird construct whereby Rickon goes north without Bran and Bran either has no traveling companions apart from Hodor, or Rickon goes north with some random Wildling.

I'm looking forward to their treatment of the Blackfish; dude is one of my favorite characters from the book.

Blackfish = Westeros equivalent of a Navy SEAL.

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New Character List Revealed for Game of Thrones Season Three
Source: EW
May 29, 2012

Winding down its sophomore season with next Sunday's finale, HBO's "Game of Thrones" has already been confirmed to return for a third season in 2013. Today, EW has a special sneak preview at a list of names that fans can expect to make appearances in the epic George R.R. Martin adaptation.

Mance Rayder, Daario Naharis, Edmure Tully, Ser Brynden Tully (The Blackfish), Lady Selyse Florent, Shireen, Olenna Redwyne (The Queen of Thorns), Beric Dondarrion, Thoros of Myr and Jojen and Meera Reed are the characters that are currently planned to play a part in season three, said to adapt events from "A Storm of Swords." The magazine points out, though, that just because a character isn't on that list doesn't mean that he or she won't show up on your television screen next year.

Stinkin' A! That's a great list of new characters. Now, I'm really looking forward to next season- as if I already wasn't excited enough.

Jaqen H'ghar was part of Yoren's group of recruits taken from King's Landing to join the Night's Watch, just after the execution of Eddard Stark.[2] He was one of three prisoners found in the infamous "black cells", the dungeons reserved for only the worst criminals. The other black cells criminals, Rorge and Biter, were afraid of him.[3] Jaqen behaved in an obsequious manner toward Arya Stark while being escorted to the Wall. When Ser Amory Lorch attacked the company, Arya saved him and his two fellow prisoners from death by a fire.[4] At Harrenhal, Jaqen found her again and told her that she is owed three deaths and to select three people for him to kill, to repay the deaths she stole from the "Red God". Arya used him to eliminate two of her enemies at Harrenhal, but he pitilessly rejected her request for aid in any other way. By threatening to select Jaqen himself as her third choice, Arya ultimately forced him to help free the Northmen imprisoned at Harrenhal.[1]

Once his debt was filled, Jaqen prepared to take his leave, but first gave Arya an old iron coin and instructed her to give it to any man of Braavos saying the words "valar morghulis" should she ever need more help. Then he announced that "Jaqen H'ghar" must die, and passed a hand over his face. His entire face magically reshaped into that of a hook-nosed man with a gold tooth.[1]

I may just be in a bad mood, but that whole ep felt off to me. The only part that felt right was Jaqen and Arya. Jon and halfhand didn't even work for me. They went overboard making Shea sympathetic so her betrayal now will be Tyrion's fault for not going with her (although I won't hate her any less when it happen). And the end felt too much like Walking Dead.

Season 3 can't get here soon enough, though. Storm of Swords is my 2nd favorite book of all time any genre, behind Dune. It's going to be the best season of anything ever.

Maybe I zoned out a bit, but what happened with Theon? Didn't understand how his crew got out of there and how Winterfell got sacked? Bran and them emerging from the crypts to a sacked Winterfell was canon, but the rest seemed vague and confusing

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Maybe I zoned out a bit, but what happened with Theon? Didn't understand how his crew got out of there and how Winterfell got sacked? Bran and them emerging from the crypts to a sacked Winterfell was canon, but the rest seemed vague and confusing

Theon was taken by Ramsay Bolton and his northmen. It seems the Iron Islanders were accepting Robb's offer to return home but leave Theon. It's been a while since I read the book, but it wouldn't surprise me if they also got slaughtered given the nonsense that happened there.