Wow!!!, very appropriete, I like this brave people too.
it seems very promising, I'm curious how you'll handle All this furry stuff And the deep expression of the Indians warrior.
I'll be looking the development ok.

Maybe you could give some speed to your image. A lot of people do great jobs, but the final images are to static...and this is not so good. Another camera can help too. Try do something like this "IMPACT" ... :thumbsup: Good luck.

Thanks everybody for the comments. This was just the first idea .. I still working in more ideas before begins to modelling this one ... I want to sure this is a really good idea and if this could be a good image ... Soon I´ll post the other idea and other pose and camera view for this actual shot.

dcmoutinho

03 March 2005, 02:59 AM

great concept Braz !!!:thumbsup:
I am in the expectation to see the modelling.
bye

DaddyMack

03 March 2005, 03:11 AM

Hi JR.BRAZ, great concept!:thumbsup:
Good luck realising it, it will make for some really interesting modelling and texturing.
:)

Hi chief!!!
Very well concept indeed, but some sprits must be also found as the servant not only the bizons I think...Shamans deal with sprits!!!
Pro-modelling, waiting for your progress!!! Good luck:thumbsup:

Haleluja...This is not a droid or monster!!!
Everywhere where I looking I see only monsters, thats why good to see a simple, but great caracter which is not makes me scared.

Work on it! And you will be on my favourite list!

MY SERVANT:
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=226450

rastko

04 April 2005, 11:29 AM

Good model I like it. Only maybe little to reduce size of head?

Keep up good work :thumbsup:

Antropus

04 April 2005, 11:40 AM

Nice progress JR.,
Just don't forget the references. You still have some big issues in the anatomy/proportion. Take a look in some anatomy references even if you are planning to make something not totally realistic. Your work don't need to be realistic but taking care of these issues surely your character will be believable and this is a important part of character design :thumbsup:
The main problem is the very big head, more cartoon like, and the body kind of more realistic.

Keep it up :wip:

Kris

arcovoltaire

04 April 2005, 05:48 PM

I adored the hair. I still didn't assimilate the shirt. I will expect more innovations to have more vision on the subject. I liked the concept. Something very American. I am accompanying the topic.

mecman, dcmoutinho, DaddyMack, melkao, alexfalchi, Mordalles, Wandddo, pixelkeg, arlutik, gra7, arcovoltaire, Carlos Pacheco, thanks all.
Sorry for not answer each one, but I´m working now in a new uptade for the image. I´ll be back soon. :)

Martinez3d

04 April 2005, 11:35 PM

Heya JR.BRAZ, i really like the texture, but, as kris also apointed, you can improve the modelling of your character.

Here is a fast sketch, to visualize the character with the acessories ...

JRBRAZ

04 April 2005, 03:35 PM

Thanks everybody for the comments :thumbsup:

Kanga, thanks man. The design was inspired in a real american indian knife.

arlutik, thanks for the suport :)

dcmoutinho. Thanks. Take a new look at now. I think the acessories give a plus in the image. About the feather in the knife, I don´t know ... I don´t wanna to cover the details in the knife ... But I added a lot of feathers in other places now ... Tell me what you think now. :)

More comments and critics are always welcome :thumbsup:

javaejderi

04 April 2005, 08:05 PM

Hail!!!
Very good concept, let the Great Sprit always with you:)!!! Modelling keeps it going good also..:thumbsup:but I don't think a north American native wears a shrunk skull:wise:

dcmoutinho

04 April 2005, 03:20 PM

very nice Braz !:thumbsup:
I liked the texture of the belt.

good look

praguer28

04 April 2005, 03:33 PM

Joao Roberto:

Congratulation for the attitude of your participation. Your idea is very good (why not a brazilian scene, with indians... anyway works!), and i only tell you to be careful in the hands, try to put more natural movement... The rest is going very well! Why dont you try pictures of several bisons in the background... Go for it man!

Good modeling and great texturing work, te pose is good although i think that he seems watching in a different direction (above) of where he points
Good luck!:thumbsup:

SilvioPeters

04 April 2005, 08:18 PM

Hey Braz. Excellent render. Very good!!!
Say me somethnig... Do you use reactor to make these clothes?

Bye. And good luck!

melkao

04 April 2005, 03:26 PM

jajaja that skull is very nice:D

banzato

04 April 2005, 04:34 PM

Hey, with the details is much bether. I think you can try another textures on the pents, you know, a man like that with a clean yellow pents? Another thing that can be bether is the arms and hands, but i know you may not change at this time. What about some expressions on that face? What is your plan for the animals? do you already have some models? Keep going.

gra7

04 April 2005, 07:07 PM

great job brazz.. mto bom velho.. kero ve os bufalos agora.. hehe

t + boa sorte !

dcmoutinho

04 April 2005, 01:59 AM

hi Braz, great render !!!:thumbsup:
good look

chuva

04 April 2005, 04:28 AM

I really liked your idea. Finally one work in the contest without monster ... :thumbsup:

The modelling and the textures are great.

Neeno

04 April 2005, 07:43 AM

oh yeah.. this is whats the word um .. natural "! great work so far the textures and light are suiting the scene very well.. fantastic.. looking forward to the final image its going to be very relaxing.. and a calm image of the master servant relationship/..great work!

JRBRAZ

04 April 2005, 08:25 PM

Hi all, thanks for the comments. :thumbsup:

Maxter. Tks. Yeah, you right. I´ll change this in the next update.

Silvio Peters, hi. I don´t use reactor, because I´m using XSI ... The deformation in the cloths is made in modeling. No simulation.

melkao, hehehe. Thanks man.

banzato, The pants is really too clean .. I will change this too in the next update. About the animals, I will begin to model the bisons in the weekend ...

I really like the last concept you posted, I like the feel of the image as a whole. One thing I think I would have the buffalo to the left of the Master looking at the viewer or the master instead of the one on the right side of the image looking at the viewer . I think this would make the image work better but that is just my opinion.
Great job so far.

Here is a update in the background. I know, the grass need more work ... But the modeling is finish.

JRBRAZ

04 April 2005, 06:07 PM

Thanks everybody for the support and for the tips. I made a lill change in the proportions of the composition. Now the ground is bigger than in the sketch. I will improve some details like the grass and test another ilumination too.

The next step is model the bisons. After finish the bisons, I will test again the composition, to find a better position to then all.

Hi, this is a composition test with the animals. The bison is just for layout, I will start the modelling soon ...

mecman

04 April 2005, 03:46 PM

Nice Braz!! nice!!
the scene is very, very beautiful!! Nice colors!
I didn´t like the grass, the grass near the stone is great, but the others is a bit weird!
anyway, great work with the background!
Keep it up mate!!

JRBRAZ

04 April 2005, 03:47 PM

ciscoleal, thanks.

B-MAX TALK, thanks man.

monsitj, yeah, is inspired in warcraft cinematic and the lion king movie :)

melkao, here are the animals :). The previous image is just to show the background modeling. I will start to model the bison soon.

Wandddo, thanks for support. Valeu.

Neeno, I still work in lighting, this render is just a WIP ... just to test the layout with all together .. Thanks.

Nice Braz!! nice!!
the scene is very, very beautiful!! Nice colors!
I didn´t like the grass, the grass near the stone is great, but the others is a bit weird!
anyway, great work with the background!
Keep it up mate!!

Hey Mec, we post at same time .. heheh

Yes, the grass still horrible :D .. I´m still working in the grass and in the lighting of the environment .. Soon I will post the update. I rendering the new version right now. :bounce:

se7enthcin

04 April 2005, 04:04 PM

I'm digging the idea man. :)

I'm wondering if the horizon line is too high for the perspective you have. The camera angle is very dramatic and I dig it but I think the background needs to drop slightly. Just a suggestion. I can't wait to see more

:bounce:

banzato

04 April 2005, 04:21 PM

Yeah, your work is bether with the enviroment. I only think that the animals could be run, this could give more action feeling to your scene. Another thing that im looking is the color, i think you can put a generic color in the scene. The color of the front rocks is not the same of the background rocks, i think this is a litlle strange. Keep going. :thumbsup:

neo_sk8rider

04 April 2005, 05:43 PM

Hey JR.BRAZ :) .. Great Work Man... It´s been a long time I´ve been checking your thread but I havent left my comments here... but now it´s time.. rsssssss... Keep it Up Bro.. You are doing a great job in the challenge... Congrats Fella :thumbsup: !!!

Hi, I made a lill changes in the composition before start the bison modeling. I made some changes in the stone and in the ilumination of the background.

JRBRAZ

04 April 2005, 07:12 PM

Thanks for the tips se7enthcin and banzato. I drop down the horizon .. is really better now. :thumbsup:

neo_sk8rider e msteinert, thanks for the support :beer:

CuneytGuclu

04 April 2005, 07:17 PM

I like very much man! Good Texture and light :thumbsup:

arLutiK

04 April 2005, 03:47 AM

Joao, great work, your scene is really nice. This is gonna be a great composition once it's finish. Really cool. :thumbsup:

dcmoutinho

04 April 2005, 12:35 PM

great composite Braz !:thumbsup:
I am anxious to see the buffalo.

good look

infinita

04 April 2005, 12:47 PM

Very nice !!!

pBarrelas

04 April 2005, 04:26 PM

It's looking great!! I think that you should check the scale between all the charecters though!!

melkao

04 April 2005, 04:33 PM

Hey thats getting very nice..i think that the small lizard is a detail very cool.
by the way, the biso will be green in the final image?, beacuse i think that this color for this animal...well maybe put other texture for him?:shrug:

JRBRAZ

04 April 2005, 05:05 PM

Hi, thanks all comments :thumbsup:

mmaxx, thanks.

arlutik, thanks. I hope so. :D

dcmoutinho, valeu cara.

infinita. Thanks. Obrigado.

pBarrelas, thanks Paulo. Yeah I will check this.

melkao, hi melkao. The bison will not be green .. hehe ... I was post this image just for layout ... and the bison was just a reference photo. But I begin to model the bison now. Take a look in the next post. :)

>> THE BEAR IS JUST FOR LAYOUT ... I will start the modeling soon. :thumbsup:

Tell me what you think ;)

praguer28

05 May 2005, 04:57 PM

... to put more animals in the scene! Go for it man!

http://img175.echo.cx/img175/7494/3dbrazil5uk.jpg

todesco

05 May 2005, 05:38 PM

hey braz

i like the brighter version

post more images with the animals... and tell about the fur, how you do it?

e manda bala!!

melkao

05 May 2005, 05:44 PM

hey man i like a lot the new composition....the bear in the place of the other biso. And the background is cool. Good Work:thumbsup:

LDee

05 May 2005, 06:07 PM

This last one is the better composition :applause: :applause:
xD

banzato

05 May 2005, 06:33 PM

Hey, good job.
Is much bether now but is a little strange a bear in that end of the world hehe, but the decision is yours. Before i tought that he was the king of bisons and now i think he is tarzan haha but is cool, keep going. Only one thing im looking in your last composition... contrast diferences and the color of the central rock, floor and grass. I think this 3 elements could have more brown color.

praguer28, thanks. Now I start to model the bear. The last one miss to complete the scene :)

todesco, thanks. I´m in doubt about what composition is better ... I think the second one, could pass more emotion, because show us a battle against the darkness ... :) ... but the first show more action ... :rolleyes:

melkao, thanks. Yes, like the bear too. So I will star his the modeling soon.

ldgree, thanks.

banzato, yes, the original ideia, was to be something like the "king of the bisons" :) ... but like others peoples say before, and I think was right, the shamans controls the spirits of the forests (the spirits is every thing is alive) so I decide to take some animals of that region, like the bisons, the eagle, the falcon, the brown bear (yes they live in same place of the ancient american indians) and a little lizard, and put all then together in one scene. I´m don´t know .. really could be more like a tarzan than a shaman, but I think with many animals is better than use just bisons ...
And yes you right about the central stone, the floor and grass .. I will improve the colors diferences and some details in modeling... Thanks for comment.

fer3d

05 May 2005, 02:08 PM

It is looking great!

The planet on the upper left is the moon, right? Have you considered making the dark side totally dark and add some craters to the light side? My first impression was that it was another planet like the earth, so the scene was in a different world, not ours.

I´m in the final step now. I will adjust a lot of things in the background for now and soon I´ll post more updates :D

Miyagi

05 May 2005, 06:32 AM

E ai João bele!

Good progress....when I first got here and saw your sketch, I wonder... wow how will this guy handle all this furry stuff...well managed :thumbsup:...I'm surely here to see all this awesome stuff interacting.

Hey Joao,
Your scene is looking great, the fur on the animals is looking great. The modeling of these new animals looks well done too. I wouldn't mind seeing a bit more of the distant landscape, just a bit more would do.

Here is the scene, with the bear and the bisons ... I start now, to make a new eagle ... soon updates :-)

arLutiK

05 May 2005, 05:24 AM

Wow, nice update since last I look.

The bear is awesome, love it

Diogo

05 May 2005, 12:55 PM

Bizon is better now, the composition is full of life and movement :bounce: , great render.

ohh yes , the bear is fantastic :thumbsup:

mmoir

05 May 2005, 02:39 PM

Hey Joao,
It is looking good, keep at it. I like the mean bear too.

LDee

05 May 2005, 02:39 PM

uoww nice textures in Bison now... you can paint in red blood like xamas
i want see the eagle in your style too ^^

Very good work!!

3dforall

05 May 2005, 03:05 PM

Hi Joao, I like you scene, just the color are over saturated ... anyway, the animals and the indian are amazing :thumbsup:

Heber G Conde

05 May 2005, 04:56 PM

Hi Braz!

Great Concept!
The bear is really interesting, as is the background - good atmosphere! Great terrain floor!
My two cents would be for the perspective! I think the bear should get a bit bigger - using the perspective!

Great job! Keep rocking and Good Luck!
Best Regards

Heber

melkao

05 May 2005, 06:08 PM

the bear look great in the escenary

chuva

05 May 2005, 12:11 PM

Hi Braz,

Great update :bounce: I like the colors. Everything is really cool. I don´t know if is because the low resolution in render, but the indian is looking with a blur ... diferent from the other parts that are more sharpe ... If you could, post a render with higher resolution, should be this the "problem" :thumbsup:

Wandddo

05 May 2005, 04:20 PM

Hi JR:) The animals are a lot better now:thumbsup: maybe the claws of the bear could have varied sizes... and the face now are :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: keep working my friend, the conclusion it's not far now :) go on Braz :thumbsup:
gde abraço

morgan

05 May 2005, 04:34 PM

I like your furry animals a lot. Cool colors. Looks good man

JRBRAZ

05 May 2005, 09:30 PM

arlutik, thanks. Soon I will post more updates ...

Diogo, obrigado pela força.

mmoir, thanks.

ldgree, yeah I will add more color in bison´s paint. Thanks for the tip.

3dforall, thanks. I´m will test the saturation in the next update. Thanks.

Heber G Conde, Thanks. I will check all the proportions. Thanks for help.

melkao, hi Carlos. Thanks.

chuva, yes, the indian is a old render in low resolution version ... soo I will post a high resolution render. Is a lot better. :)

Wandddo, About the bear´s claws you right ... I will change thins. Thanks.

morgan, thanks.

Thanks everybody for all comments. Soon I will post a new update with the new eagle. :thumbsup:

Wow man your progress are really great...the bear and the biso and the eagle are amazing...good work man:thumbsup:

dcmoutinho

05 May 2005, 12:47 PM

very nice scene Braz !!!:thumbsup:
the colours it's great ! the bear gave a new emotion the scene.

good look

fer3d

05 May 2005, 03:39 PM

Congrats, Joao Roberto!

I like it. The close-up shows details I didn't appreciate before, such a carefully textured lizard.

I was thinking: There dark spots near the moon, suggesting high flying birds. But all other birds are white. The dark ones resemble falling meteorites or something like that. What if you place them lower in the sky, or make them whiter, or give them a slight flying bird silhouete, in order not to cause confusion?

Just an idea.

Congrats again and good luck to you.

fer

Climax

05 May 2005, 04:06 PM

• Looking great Roberto! lots of detail, I just have two comments:

_The sky seems that is not lighting the scene, maybe use a red back ligth to see if it looks more integrated
_The texture of his pants are a bit simple compared to the overal detail

It looks very good anyway, sorry i hadn't see your thread before, but it is never late to congratulate the good work! Good luck Pal

ju3d

05 May 2005, 04:46 PM

João Roberto era o maioral... nosso Johny era um cara legal.

Congratulations my friend!
You did a very good image, your are in a great evolution!

Good luck!

JRBRAZ

05 May 2005, 09:42 PM

Thanks everybody for comments and support :thumbsup:

3dforall, thanks man. Vote on me :p

Lotus7, obrigado.

melkao, hi friend. Thank you.

dcmoutinho, thanks. I happy you like the colors.

fer3d, thanks for the tips. I will make more test about.

Climax, hi, is good to see you here. Thanks for tips. I will add more details in pants. You not are the only one that says me this ... And about the light, I will make more tests ... Thanks.

Joao Roberto: Congratulations on your work, and I hope that we keep in touch!

fer3d

JRBRAZ

05 May 2005, 06:56 PM

Hi guys, thanks for all comments :)

I´m just upload on ftp the final version now. For now, is just waiting for the next one .. hehehe :bounce:

JRBRAZ

05 May 2005, 03:37 AM

:)

For who want to see, here is a bigger version of the final image:
>> 3000 x 1820px - 1,32Mb

http://www.zarbdesign.com.br/diversos/master/final/Shaman_final.jpg

:thumbsup:

A12

05 May 2005, 04:23 AM

Nice work. Your final has a nice mythic feeling. Congrats.

DaddyMack

05 May 2005, 04:54 AM

Hi JR.BRAZ, and a big congratulations, your hard work has paid off... You've given us a very compelling image, with some lovely, and delicate detailing:thumbsup::thumbsup: It was a pleasure to watch this grow:applause: Cheers

Martinez3d

05 May 2005, 05:20 PM

Hey Braz! What a strong final image you got!!:buttrock: You really show the power of the master!:thumbsup: Congratulation for your incredible final result!:applause: Hope to see you here in the next challenge!

Good luck!

Um abraço,

Rafael Martinez

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