EDIT: Also the Kardashians. They were raised Orthodox by their father (funny how an Orthodox Christian could support such a despicable man as OJ with a clean conscience) but later apostatized for Roman Catholicism from their mother.

EDIT: Also the Kardashians. They were raised Orthodox by their father (funny how an Orthodox Christian could support such a despicable man as OJ with a clean conscience) but later apostatized for Roman Catholicism from their mother.

Actually, they weren't raised Orthodox (at least as far as I know). Kris was raised Roman Catholic but she left the Latin church. They occasionally go to a celebrity Protestant church in LA. Maybe I can marry one of the youngest ones and bring them back to the church .

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Oksana Baiul was raised Orthodox, but since she discovered Jewish ancestry on her mother's side, she identifies as Jewish. Matrilinear lineage and all that.

Is she at least Orthodox Jewish?

Not that it makes any difference (heresy is heresy) but she probably is an Orthodox Jew, since most non-Orthodox Jews (Reform, Conservative, etc.) originally come from the US and the UK and was almost unheard of in other Jewish circles.

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British composer Sir John Tavener is rumoured to have left Orthodoxy to explore other religious traditions. It may be just the press making up things, of course, because his music has been incorporating non-western elements in recent years.

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British composer Sir John Tavener is rumoured to have left Orthodoxy to explore other religious traditions. It may be just the press making up things, of course, because his music has been incorporating non-western elements in recent years.

Sir? I would have never guessed that there are British nobes who are Orthodox Christians.

British composer Sir John Tavener is rumoured to have left Orthodoxy to explore other religious traditions. It may be just the press making up things, of course, because his music has been incorporating non-western elements in recent years.

Sir? I would have never guessed that there are British nobes who are Orthodox Christians.

Heh. A knighthood is hardly nobility... And he is Prince Philip's favourite composer.

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British composer Sir John Tavener is rumoured to have left Orthodoxy to explore other religious traditions. It may be just the press making up things, of course, because his music has been incorporating non-western elements in recent years.

Sir? I would have never guessed that there are British nobes who are Orthodox Christians.

Heh. A knighthood is hardly nobility...

It isn't? I learnt something new today.

Btw, what's the use of being noble in today's Britain? Is there anything more to it than family history and fancy title?

Btw, what's the use of being noble in today's Britain? Is there anything more to it than family history and fancy title?

A knighthood is pretty much just a state honour, on a par with a doctorate honoris causa. There's a bunch of them conferred a couple of times a year.

As for nobility, beyond the chance of a seat in the House of Lords (which is populated mostly by life peers, which are not hereditary, anyway), there's not much difference from non-nobles. An old, illustrious name may be some pretty big shoes to fit, but it guarantees nothing beyond connections. Most titled people work and live like everyone else; those with old estates tend not to be very well-off either (maintenance costs). With the social climate having changed in favour of 'who you are' rather than 'who your family is', there are not many Honourables and Ladies going around openly.

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'When you live your path all the time, you end up with both more path and more time.'~Venecia Rauls

A knighthood is pretty much just a state honour, on a par with a doctorate honoris causa. There's a bunch of them conferred a couple of times a year.

Yes, such things are recognitions of accomplishment or service in some area. One that rather tickled a lot of people about two years ago was the knighting of Terry Pratchett the author of the Discworld books. His arms incorporate such things as "Morepork" birds. Here's a link to the College of Arms newsletter with the description and drawing about halfway down:

"For ages this idea [that each of us is only part of a whole] has been proclaimed in the consummately wise teachings of religion, probably not alone as a means of insuring peace and harmony among men, but as a deeply founded truth. The Buddhist expresses it in one way, the Christian in another, but both say the same: We are all one."

Queen Sofia of Spain, the daughter of former King Paul of Greece and sister of Ex-King Constantine II, was an Orthodox Christian prior to her marriage in the Roman Catholic Cathedral in Athens, Greece, in 1962, to Prince Juan Carlos, who later became King of Spain; Princess Sophia of Greece converted to Roman Catholicism for her marriage.

Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh, former Prince of Greece, consort of Great Britain's Queen Elizabeth II, converted from Eastern Orthodoxy to Anglicanism prior to his marriage.

''The facts of her life, as documented and reconstructed, show Blavatsky to have been at the very least psychologically disturbed and, at times, an outright charlatan and fraud. Today, in our more "tolerant'' age, many prefer to see her as a colorful "eccentric'' who was also a charismatic forerunner of modern "feminism" and the New Age Movement. But from an objective Christian standpoint, however, she was in all likelihood possessed by an unclean spirit who often spoke and dictated through her by means of automatic writing.''-Fr. Alexey Younghttp://www.roca.org/OA/94/94p.htm

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''The facts of her life, as documented and reconstructed, show Blavatsky to have been at the very least psychologically disturbed and, at times, an outright charlatan and fraud. Today, in our more "tolerant'' age, many prefer to see her as a colorful "eccentric'' who was also a charismatic forerunner of modern "feminism" and the New Age Movement. But from an objective Christian standpoint, however, she was in all likelihood possessed by an unclean spirit who often spoke and dictated through her by means of automatic writing.''-Fr. Alexey Younghttp://www.roca.org/OA/94/94p.htm

I wouldn't call the writings of Marion Meade (of which Fr. Young uses as his primary source) "documentation". I wouldn't even call it good fiction. Meade never once read Blavatsky's major works or even a significant amount of her letters (concerning the latter, the vast majority were not yet published). She is notorious for fabricating details of Blavatsky's life (or at least she refuses to share these alleged "sources" with the rest of us). As far as biographies go, this is the False Decretals and Braveheart rolled into one.

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Note : Many of my posts (especially the ones antedating late 2012) do not reflect charity, tact, or even views I presently hold. Please forgive me for any antagonism I have caused.

"For ages this idea [that each of us is only part of a whole] has been proclaimed in the consummately wise teachings of religion, probably not alone as a means of insuring peace and harmony among men, but as a deeply founded truth. The Buddhist expresses it in one way, the Christian in another, but both say the same: We are all one."

That's hardly the statement of an apostate. "We are all one" is true in various, perhaps metaphorical, ways: we all have the image and likeness of God within us, we are all made bodily of the same types of atoms, we all share a common destiny (how we respond to that destiny is another issue), etc.

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If you will, you can become all flame.Extra caritatem nulla salus.In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness". सर्वभूतहितἌνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas GandhiY dduw bo'r diolch.