When evaluating prospects, 2 long-time scouts can see something different in a kid that others don't. Obviously.
Here's my question about these prospects, who nobody knows what their future will hold.
We need to get more physical on defense. I think that's obvious to everyone now.

Which of these ILB's and Safety's would never be accused of shying away from contact? Who are the guy's who lay the wood anytime they get a chance?

Did you watch enough NC State games to know how you would have classified Terrell Manning? I didn't see him all year on defense so I don't know.
Teddy liked him a lot apparently.
Is he the type?

I didn't see enough on Manning...I thought Audie Cole was actually their greatest enforcer on that NC State defense and most of what I knew about Manning and his progression came from my discussions with Bob McGinn

ILB is far more important. After Bishop, we just have bodies there. No playmaking ability. No thumpers. Hawk is on skates half the time.
He's never been close to a difference-maker. Rarely makes big plays such as Ints or hits for fumbles. We've been waiting though.......

ILB is far more important. After Bishop, we just have bodies there. No playmaking ability. No thumpers. Hawk is on skates half the time.
He's never been close to a difference-maker. Rarely makes big plays such as Ints or hits for fumbles. We've been waiting though.......

I saw an article today where a scout likened Perry to Vernon Gholston...i don't necessarily agree with that but I agree in the sense where Perry will never be much a pass rusher, solid run defender though...I would like to add another impact inside linebacker but I don't feel we need to go early with the position

I saw an article today where a scout likened Perry to Vernon Gholston...i don't necessarily agree with that but I agree in the sense where Perry will never be much a pass rusher, solid run defender though...I would like to add another impact inside linebacker but I don't feel we need to go early with the position

I saw this article as well, and the comparison was based before he played an NFL game. It went on to say he has already surpassed anything Gholston has done in the league. It mentioned Gholston played like he had no hands, which is unlike how Perry has looked in his limited action.

I do think you cannot have enough pass rushers on a team, and I would love not to see Waldon back on the field again. Drafting another OLB early wouldn't be giving up on Perry IMO, it would be adding another body that can get to the QB. It could also give Capers some new looks he can use.

Jennings goes, Finley stays - I don't care about a JS online report that says Packers are shopping him, I don't buy it. Notice how he played significantly better at the end of the season. The dude is a serious talent and is young.

Hawk goes, Woodson stays - Even though Hawk probably played his best this last year, he is a two down player that costs too much. Woodson probably gets a 3 year deal that reduces his cost.

Draft:

1st Round - Jonathan Cooper, C, UNC - There will be a theme to the early rounds. I am so sick of seeing ARod get beat up, fix the freaking problem. With Lang/Cooper/Sitton, that completely solidifies the OL. Not to mention the player. Cooper helped pave the way for an above average runner that will get overdrafted. Call it an overreaction pick, but I really don't care. A better offensive line = a better Aaron Rodgers, and I am certain of that.

2nd Round - Chris Faulk, OT, LSU - Road Grader who was out all year with an injury. He could easily have been a 1st rounder if he was healthy. Big dude, but athletic. I am really not seeing a LT prospect worthy of a late 1st, and after the 1st round, I don't see many good LT prospects other than Long. I see Bulaga/Sherrod/Newhouse battling out for LT. I could also see Fluker in Round 1 and a Center like Frederick in Round 2. Overall, I don't really care, the OL needs to be solidified.

3rd Round - William Gholston, DE, MSU - Another Michigan State product. This is a guy with the height requirement for the 3-4, and will be able to gain good weight to get up to 285-290. I really like the way Gholston stuffs the run. This gives the Packers the flexibility and players needed for the 3-4. Not a need, but Pickett is getting up there in age, Neal has only one season to hang his hat on, Worthy got hurt and was outplayed by Daniels, Daniels is a pure pass rusher but tough competitor, and CJ Wilson was a good run stopper. It is time to solidify the DL, but I thought our DL was overmatched all year.

4th Round - Denard Robinson - WR/RB - Michigan - He probably will go higher than this, but I like the idea of either him or Kenjon Barner being drafted to the Pack. Our top 3 WR's are very good, but after that, the talent level drops. Adding another WR is a must, but I don't think we need to hit up the early rounds for one.

6th Round - Caleb Sturgis, K, Florida - Need a Kicker to be drafted, or a different kicker to be brought in to compete against Crosby. Crosby is a good person, but has cost the Packers opportunities to play in overtimes.

7th Round - Eric Martin, OLB, Nebraska - I cannot stand Walden, to me he is like Jarret Bush but not as bad as Bush. He is just a guy that when he is on the field, I know we don't have our best defense on the field. Thus, I think we will draft an OLB at some point.

* To me this draft should be simple, as it was last year: Fix the problems. Our problems were in the trenches, more of which the OL was awful and Arod did not feel comfortable in the pocket.

Jennings goes, Finley stays - I don't care about a JS online report that says Packers are shopping him, I don't buy it. Notice how he played significantly better at the end of the season. The dude is a serious talent and is young.

Hawk goes, Woodson stays - Even though Hawk probably played his best this last year, he is a two down player that costs too much. Woodson probably gets a 3 year deal that reduces his cost.

Draft:

1st Round - Jonathan Cooper, C, UNC - There will be a theme to the early rounds. I am so sick of seeing ARod get beat up, fix the freaking problem. With Lang/Cooper/Sitton, that completely solidifies the OL. Not to mention the player. Cooper helped pave the way for an above average runner that will get overdrafted. Call it an overreaction pick, but I really don't care. A better offensive line = a better Aaron Rodgers, and I am certain of that.

2nd Round - Chris Faulk, OT, LSU - Road Grader who was out all year with an injury. He could easily have been a 1st rounder if he was healthy. Big dude, but athletic. I am really not seeing a LT prospect worthy of a late 1st, and after the 1st round, I don't see many good LT prospects other than Long. I see Bulaga/Sherrod/Newhouse battling out for LT. I could also see Fluker in Round 1 and a Center like Frederick in Round 2. Overall, I don't really care, the OL needs to be solidified.

3rd Round - William Gholston, DE, MSU - Another Michigan State product. This is a guy with the height requirement for the 3-4, and will be able to gain good weight to get up to 285-290. I really like the way Gholston stuffs the run. This gives the Packers the flexibility and players needed for the 3-4. Not a need, but Pickett is getting up there in age, Neal has only one season to hang his hat on, Worthy got hurt and was outplayed by Daniels, Daniels is a pure pass rusher but tough competitor, and CJ Wilson was a good run stopper. It is time to solidify the DL, but I thought our DL was overmatched all year.

4th Round - Denard Robinson - WR/RB - Michigan - He probably will go higher than this, but I like the idea of either him or Kenjon Barner being drafted to the Pack. Our top 3 WR's are very good, but after that, the talent level drops. Adding another WR is a must, but I don't think we need to hit up the early rounds for one.

6th Round - Caleb Sturgis, K, Florida - Need a Kicker to be drafted, or a different kicker to be brought in to compete against Crosby. Crosby is a good person, but has cost the Packers opportunities to play in overtimes.

7th Round - Eric Martin, OLB, Nebraska - I cannot stand Walden, to me he is like Jarret Bush but not as bad as Bush. He is just a guy that when he is on the field, I know we don't have our best defense on the field. Thus, I think we will draft an OLB at some point.

* To me this draft should be simple, as it was last year: Fix the problems. Our problems were in the trenches, more of which the OL was awful and Arod did not feel comfortable in the pocket.

I don't have a problem with much of this, just hate the Robinson pick. All I've heard so far is that he will not be an NFL WR.

Johnathan Cyprien (Florida International) is quickly becoming out of my favorite prospects...a safety who is wiling to come up and make a hit and also can play deep coverage...there's a mixed perception on where he may go, but if he has the potential to be a difference maker i think round two is not out of the question