Really tried to get into both of these bands but I never did ... a big "meh" in my book.
Also, saw Profanatica live a couple years ago and I was not impressed - always thought those Nun Habits that they wear looked corny...

Was it the show in NJ where Paul yelled at the guitarist and made him restart two of the songs before beating his drums with a crucifix and storming off the stage 20-25 minutes into their set? 'Cause yea, I wasn't impressed either.

You are so right!
That show was Dingbatz in Clifton and it was so dissapointing ...

The sound board / mixer blew up during the early part of the show. They had to rig up some other concoction just to finish the show. We didn't have any vocals during our set because of this, nor a monitor mix or mic'd guitars / drums!! Profanatica had shit / awful sound due to the same reasons (no fucking PA mixer!!!). It was terrible and not their fault. Almost the exact same problems they had in Texas a year before, which was also not their fault. Blown mixer / PA problems with that one also. Almost eerily similar.

They were way better a year or so later with Nightbringer and Krieg. No sound problems. Paul on drums the way it should be. They killed it. Maybe the forces of darkness would not allow Profanatica to play unless Paul was on drums?

Really tried to get into both of these bands but I never did ... a big "meh" in my book.
Also, saw Profanatica live a couple years ago and I was not impressed - always thought those Nun Habits that they wear looked corny...

Was it the show in NJ where Paul yelled at the guitarist and made him restart two of the songs before beating his drums with a crucifix and storming off the stage 20-25 minutes into their set? 'Cause yea, I wasn't impressed either.

You are so right!
That show was Dingbatz in Clifton and it was so dissapointing ...

The sound board / mixer blew up during the early part of the show. They had to rig up some other concoction just to finish the show. We didn't have any vocals during our set because of this, nor a monitor mix or mic'd guitars / drums!! Profanatica had shit / awful sound due to the same reasons (no fucking PA mixer!!!). It was terrible and not their fault. Almost the exact same problems they had in Texas a year before, which was also not their fault. Blown mixer / PA problems with that one also. Almost eerily similar.

They were way better a year or so later with Nightbringer and Krieg. No sound problems. Paul on drums the way it should be. They killed it. Maybe the forces of darkness would not allow Profanatica to play unless Paul was on drums?

Yea I was at both but I'm referring to the Nightbringer and Krieg show. Paul was on drums, looked pissed after making the guitarist restart one of their songs, banged some shit around, knocked over some drums and stormed off stage after playing for about 20-25 minutes while the rest of the members finished the song then looked around and walked off. If I recall correctly, they then retook the stage and played for about 2 minutes before leaving again. Nightbringer ended up playing last and the vocalist kept complaining about no vocals in the monitors.

Now this is a thought provoking thread... hard choice. I love the sound of profanatica but some of havohej's stuff has thistotal original eerie shit that I really can't compare to anything else...can't decide, sorry. Wasn't some early havohej stuff rereleased on a profanatica comp? Or maybe the other way around. I'm so wetbrained_________________"We must secure the extinction of the human race and apocalyptic future for all children" - 14 words.

Dethrone the Son of God is fucking horrible compared to the Profanatica material. Actually it's boring regardless. Man and Jinn was the best Havohej to me, but the worst Profanatica stuff (aka anything post-Broken Jew) is at least as good as the best Havohej material.

Really tried to get into both of these bands but I never did ... a big "meh" in my book.
Also, saw Profanatica live a couple years ago and I was not impressed - always thought those Nun Habits that they wear looked corny...

Was it the show in NJ where Paul yelled at the guitarist and made him restart two of the songs before beating his drums with a crucifix and storming off the stage 20-25 minutes into their set? 'Cause yea, I wasn't impressed either.

You are so right!
That show was Dingbatz in Clifton and it was so dissapointing ...

The sound board / mixer blew up during the early part of the show. They had to rig up some other concoction just to finish the show. We didn't have any vocals during our set because of this, nor a monitor mix or mic'd guitars / drums!! Profanatica had shit / awful sound due to the same reasons (no fucking PA mixer!!!). It was terrible and not their fault. Almost the exact same problems they had in Texas a year before, which was also not their fault. Blown mixer / PA problems with that one also. Almost eerily similar.

They were way better a year or so later with Nightbringer and Krieg. No sound problems. Paul on drums the way it should be. They killed it. Maybe the forces of darkness would not allow Profanatica to play unless Paul was on drums?

Yea I was at both but I'm referring to the Nightbringer and Krieg show. Paul was on drums, looked pissed after making the guitarist restart one of their songs, banged some shit around, knocked over some drums and stormed off stage after playing for about 20-25 minutes while the rest of the members finished the song then looked around and walked off. If I recall correctly, they then retook the stage and played for about 2 minutes before leaving again. Nightbringer ended up playing last and the vocalist kept complaining about no vocals in the monitors.

Oh really? Fuck, I must have missed that or been looking at something or not paying attention. My memory is a little hazy that night. I thought they at least sounded better than the last two times I saw them.