Now it's "Error establishing a database connection". I tell you, the whole place is going to wrack and ruin without Lizzie.

Wack-A-Mole.

Or is it mol?

Wack-a-moi?

There's a Latin word for that.

--------------"But it's disturbing to think someone actually thinks creationism -- having put it's hand on the hot stove every day for the last 400 years -- will get a different result tomorrow." -- midwifetoad

For me, the real argument for intelligent design has always been extremely simple, and doesnít require any advanced mathematics or microbiology to grasp. The video below makes this argument in the simplest, clearest way I can make it. My uncle Harry and aunt Martha like the video, and canít understand why so many intelligent scientists arenít impressed by this very simple argument.

[snip]

If I could figure out a way to use some more advanced mathematics in my arguments, if I could figure out a way to restate the basic point in such a way that uncle Harry and aunt Martha couldnít understand it, I might make some progress (I donít really have an uncle Harry or an aunt Martha, by the way, but many people do). Perhaps it would help if I linked to my resume, or to my finite element program, to show that I am capable of doing more advanced mathematics, even if I havenít used any of it in this video.

Granville,

You are barking up the wrong tree. The lack of more advanced mathematics in your argument is not the root of your problem. Good physics does not (necessarily) require sophisticated math. Einstein's special relativity uses 7th-grade algebra, yet it s quite profound as a physical theory.

Your problem is that you are not a good physicist. You do not understand statistical physics. Here are just a couple of points.

* There are simple examples of entropy compensation that you seem to be unaware of. * Your "X-entropy" is not a new concept. It is a bastardized version of the familiar, run-of-the-mill entropy associated with the number of configurations of atoms in real space.

There are a few threads at the Skeptical Zone, where well-qualified physicists and chemists dissected your technical arguments in great detail. You were invited to participate but you did not have the courage to show up.

I fear not. The site is on an independent server and unless Lizzie has delegated someone the FTP access, she will need to ask her web service provider to help or wipe the infected files and reinstall a clean copy of wordpress.

I am enjoying the uptick in TSZ's postings and conversations, mostly for the education, but certainly not least for the return of...

(heralds sound)

His Most Royal Tardiness, William J Murray.

I mean, No Neck Joe and GG Aulin get the job done, but when William J Murray posts, I feel like Screwtape taking in the luscious air of a Torquemada. His arrogance, His dismissiveness, His air of lese majeste when addressing Lizzie's posts about Dembski (or replies to His Own comments), His refusal to answer or even acknowledge questions or define His terms, His condescension and derision and insults...ah, I think I could never surfeit on the black bile that is the soul of William J Murray!

I am enjoying the uptick in TSZ's postings and conversations, mostly for the education, but certainly not least for the return of...

(heralds sound)

His Most Royal Tardiness, William J Murray.

I mean, No Neck Joe and GG Aulin get the job done, but when William J Murray posts, I feel like Screwtape taking in the luscious air of a Torquemada. His arrogance, His dismissiveness, His air of lese majeste when addressing Lizzie's posts about Dembski (or replies to His Own comments), His refusal to answer or even acknowledge questions or define His terms, His condescension and derision and insults...ah, I think I could never surfeit on the black bile that is the soul of William J Murray!

For those disinclined to seek out the pearls cast at the swine, this is a GEM:

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BTW, the reason I donít post here much is because I have a limited capacity to endure your ilk Ė this very kind of endless rabbit-holing and obfuscation of terms.But, out of a sense of fair play, Iíll spend some time here.

† †For as long as I can stomach it.

--------------SoapySam is a pathetic asswiper. Joe G

BTW, when you make little jabs like ‚ÄúI thought basic logic was one thing UDers could handle,‚ÄĚ you come off looking especially silly when you turn out to be wrong. - Barry Arrington

I am enjoying the uptick in TSZ's postings and conversations, mostly for the education, but certainly not least for the return of...

(heralds sound)

His Most Royal Tardiness, William J Murray.

I mean, No Neck Joe and GG Aulin get the job done, but when William J Murray posts, I feel like Screwtape taking in the luscious air of a Torquemada. His arrogance, His dismissiveness, His air of lese majeste when addressing Lizzie's posts about Dembski (or replies to His Own comments), His refusal to answer or even acknowledge questions or define His terms, His condescension and derision and insults...ah, I think I could never surfeit on the black bile that is the soul of William J Murray!

For those disinclined to seek out the pearls cast at the swine, this is a GEM:

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BTW, the reason I donít post here much is because I have a limited capacity to endure your ilk Ė this very kind of endless rabbit-holing and obfuscation of terms.But, out of a sense of fair play, Iíll spend some time here.

† †For as long as I can stomach it.

Just so long as he can put up with some pro-science comments for a short time, his intellectual honesty is hardly in question.

Hey, annoying other participants in a debate is easy: Just insist they prove a negative: "Show me without the shadow of a doubt there is no intelligence involved. You can't? I win!" That's what Murray it doing in "A Search for a Search" at the moment.

Ahh man...completely missed the fact that he responded. I was wondering if he'd answer in the affirmative. Given the "yes", my followup question was going to be how reliable he thought this ID detection could be. I mean, what with demons being the "intelligence", you'd think they might be doing one or two things to trick folks.

Maybe the Intelligent Designer is Morton's Demon.

--------------we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed. †Bilbo

The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

Ahh man...completely missed the fact that he responded. I was wondering if he'd answer in the affirmative. Given the "yes", my followup question was going to be how reliable he thought this ID detection could be. I mean, what with demons being the "intelligence", you'd think they might be doing one or two things to trick folks.

Maybe the Intelligent Designer is Morton's Demon. :D

Yeah †:)

Or....

--------------Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27