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Have done a duct tape solution including zwave relays (on off devices) to control the watering valves.

Now I wanted to add these devices to the zwave network and doing as should with the tricklestar in config mode press and hold, green light, release and press again, blinking.. Now to the device (holding the tstar next to it) doing the include(3 quick presses) also tried doing the 4 press procedure which does a reset.

Nothing.. the tricklestar doesn't even try to zoom in on the device.. usually this can be seen by faster blinking and then lock on.. =)

I have reloaded the router(just in case) and have tried this a few times with both devices and looking at the log(level 36,40,41) but I start to wonder if the remote is not even in the network? how can I check that?

Does the tricklestar needs to be connected 24/7 to the usb? I have not had it connected in a while before now since I only use it for inclusion. Connected it a day before though to charge it...

I have seen this before and then I solved it by adding all devices once again but surely there must be a simpler way since there starts to be a few devices now in our home..

Nothing.. the tricklestar doesn't even try to zoom in on the device.. usually this can be seen by faster blinking and then lock on.. =)

Try to reset the devices with a z-wave remote before inclusion. Were they deployed in another network?

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I have reloaded the router(just in case) and have tried this a few times with both devices and looking at the log(level 36,40,41) but I start to wonder if the remote is not even in the network? how can I check that?

you should see it in the node list. It is written to the log (36) at startup.

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Does the tricklestar needs to be connected 24/7 to the usb?

no

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I have not had it connected in a while before now since I only use it for inclusion. Connected it a day before though to charge it...

make sure it is well charged before doing any operations

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I have seen this before and then I solved it by adding all devices once again but surely there must be a simpler way since there starts to be a few devices now in our home..

I've seen "lockups" for this remote, too. It always went to "red" when trying to include devices. But as it does not even blink faster in your case, I'd assume the node info frame does not get sent from the plugs if they are still included in another network.But you can always try to exclude it with the "remove node" command in 0810, then do a reset of the controller (up and then up till it lits in all three colors), then add it again with the "add node" command. I prefer "add node" instead of "download config". The usb dongle stays at node id 1 that way. Download config also is prone to errors with SIS (does not enable SIS with that remote all the time).

Try to reset the devices with a z-wave remote before inclusion. Were they deployed in another network?

No, these are new units. I am using same type of devices in other places so they are compatible at least.Reset via remote?

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you should see it in the node list. It is written to the log (36) at startup.

Ok, I shall look for No1 then, can't remember seeing that though..

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But as it does not even blink faster in your case, I'd assume the node info frame does not get sent from the plugs if they are still included in another network.But you can always try to exclude it with the "remove node" command in 0810, then do a reset of the controller (up and then up till it lits in all three colors), then add it again with the "add node" command. I prefer "add node" instead of "download config". The usb dongle stays at node id 1 that way. Download config also is prone to errors with SIS (does not enable SIS with that remote all the time).

Ok, all these commands. Is it correct to assume that I can send these commands from webadmin. Since I do not use 0810, from what version of your driver is this working?

The node Id info, ok. Here it gets interesting. I did this on the tricklestar beleiving I was excluding..press until green, then quick press at the Lower button. Then Include action on the device and it locked it instantly..(!) Then tried including again and it failed =/

Went and reloaded the router fearing that I has removed all my lights or some of them but they where still in there.. strange.. this makes me even more certain that the tricklestar is no longer in my excisting zwave network and it has somehow lost the config while not being used(also strange)

Ok, they may be flty off course but two of them? I bought all my switches and dimmers at the same time so presumably they should be from the same batch and the others are working flawlessly, although they where included when all the others where added.

yes, i also encountered issues with the tricklestar remote. I'm just testing the Popp remote switch. It can also work as inclusion remote. I wish the ZTH200 would have a more decent z-wave chip, supporting SIS. Otherwise it is really a good remote.

yes, i also encountered issues with the tricklestar remote. I'm just testing the Popp remote switch. It can also work as inclusion remote. I wish the ZTH200 would have a more decent z-wave chip, supporting SIS. Otherwise it is really a good remote.

br, Hari

We are testing the new MK-Honeywell Astral ZWave products and as part of those tests we are testing their ZWave remote (LRC14U). This unit so far has worked very well indeed and it is SIS compatible too. MK also have a single-gang wireless switch which can be used for inclusion (like the Popp) and is SIS compatible too... we have not tested SIS mode on this switch yet though.

Astral is nicely engineered but rather expensive so it may not suit everyone's budget though.

You can then remove the remote, reset it, and add it again without loosing the network information.

Would you mind sharing the exact procedure for this? I'm having two problems:

Not sure how to remove the node. When I select the remove node message there is a list of options but I don't see where to enter the node id to delete. Just deleting the device won't work, it comes back after reload. Now I have the same remote twice on two different node ids

Not sure how to add the remote again after that. Once in config mode, after the 2 seconds press, the remote gets included if I give it 4 presses (become secondary remote) and not one as in the original install procedure. But when I do this the remote gets locked up again.