I was watching a video of a young man who just ordered a new 2020 Shelby GT 500. After adding some ridiculously priced options it came to 106,000 and change. This was Ford's price not with dealer markup, 10,000 just for painted stripes..insane! If financed for 72 months the payment was over 1700 a month. Now I know there are a lot of cars priced more than that, but in the end this is still a Mustang. Gt's optioned in the 50 grand range, this is no longer even remotely a working persons car. Your thoughts.

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The only logical result when Ford said they wanted the Mustang to beat a BMW was a price equal to a BMW which means the Mustang is no longer what it has been it's whole existence, "The best bang for the buck".

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Somehow I don't think that the price of the Gt500 is justified considering that I paid $58k for my GT350. An additional 50k for the 500? I don't think so.

Not exactly a fair comparison imho. The base GT500 is 75 and still very well equipped. The $10k for painted striped is bat ****, out of this world crazy. The DCT in the GT500 carries an MSRP of 25k. Your GT350 + the DCT is already 83k, call it 80k for the core credit of the stock GT350 trans. Obviously Ford isn't paying 25k each but you get the idea.

That was the comparison made from the previous GT500 as well, take the msrp and account for a 25k transmission and you'd expect it to be in the 80s starting price. We're not even talking about the new blower, better intercooler, biggest brakes every and all the other aero and cooling.

To me the GT500 is kind of like the Corvette, the base model is a nice car that will go like hell and if you want to run up the price to stupid levels with options, you can. I don't see why everyone is so hung up on the fully optioned vehicle price. You can run a Raptor up to almost 75k but I don't see people running around talking about it like it only comes in a 75k version.

95% of the people that buy a 2020 GT500 or a C8 Corvette will go with the base model. There is certain specs, materials, etc that you expect on vehicles that cost $50k plus, and both of these models will require at least a few added options to satisfy that requirement. I mean, at the very least, you need the **** stripe option just to get the GT500 look! LOL, there's $10k over base.

The C8 will by far outsell the GT500, because even with the various options the price will be similar to what the average car ended up selling for in the past.

I feel like the only people that will buy this new GT500 will be social media hounds so they can keep their status quo online LOL.

For me, the GT350 was the peak of the Mustang in respect to its roots. It may be really expensive, but the engineering within is awesome. It's just out of my pay grade to ever own one. When it came out, I couldn't believe how much better it was than the Boss 302, which I thought was the greatest Mustang Ford ever made. This new GT500 is just a fluffy social media Mustang supercar that I really don't care for.

if they're going to put a wing like that on a mustang, they'd better call it a f'n cobra R, give it a high-winding n/a v8 with a stick and limit production to just a few hundred cars. that would help justify the price tag and make better sense for what they're apparently aiming at with this car.

To me the GT500 is kind of like the Corvette, the base model is a nice car that will go like hell and if you want to run up the price to stupid levels with options, you can. I don't see why everyone is so hung up on the fully optioned vehicle price. You can run a Raptor up to almost 75k but I don't see people running around talking about it like it only comes in a 75k version.[/QUOTE]

Trucks are way out of line too! I think what I am trying to convey is that the Mustang is not a blue collar bang for the buck car anymore. When you can add two options and increase a car by 30000, it is not even close to affordable. The only way people are able to buy most new cars is 72 or 84 month loans. And last I read there are 2.5 million cars loans 30 days past due just in the US.

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To me the GT500 is kind of like the Corvette, the base model is a nice car that will go like hell and if you want to run up the price to stupid levels with options, you can. I don't see why everyone is so hung up on the fully optioned vehicle price. You can run a Raptor up to almost 75k but I don't see people running around talking about it like it only comes in a 75k version.

Trucks are way out of line too! I think what I am trying to convey is that the Mustang is not a blue collar bang for the buck car anymore. When you can add two options and increase a car by 30000, it is not even close to affordable. The only way people are able to buy most new cars is 72 or 84 month loans. And last I read there are 2.5 million cars loans 30 days past due just in the US.[/QUOTE]

I get it to some degree and it's a multi-point problem

1) Government safety and fuel economy requirements keep going up which are expensive to engineer and also responsible for rising curb weights.

2) they put all these options out there because people are willing to pay for them and banks are willing to finance it (even when they shouldn't be

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the insanity doesn't stop at cars either. my friend just 'bought' a $1300 cell phone and he has to pay it off for the next 3 years. a cell phone. a f'n cell phone..

It's crazy what they go for but it's like you dont have the option to buy a smartphone for say $300 instead. It ties back into the vehicle options issue - people dont understand "needs" vs "wants" anymore and have no self restraint.

As far as the track pack for the GT500 being so expensive - it's definitely a showoff thing IMHO. At the same time I think it's important for the future as they continue to develop things like CF parts that will eventually lead to them being much more affordable in the future. It's a halo car to show what's possible. A base 5.0 GT with either manual or 10spd is a hell of a performance car for the price.

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...wings, halo car, limited production and what not...

If Ford would have maintained it's similar performance feature set (sort of all around performance), but with 850hp, one or two options, and limited production (and only sold one year)...then maybe the price leaves a better taste in your mouth lol. Then maybe the "halo" features can trickle down into the standard and premium Mustangs over the following years. That might be kinda cool.

If Ford would have maintained it's similar performance feature set (sort of all around performance), but with 850hp, one or two options, and limited production (and only sold one year)...then maybe the price leaves a better taste in your mouth lol. Then maybe the "halo" features can trickle down into the standard and premium Mustangs over the following years. That might be kinda cool.

Current pricing reflects volume production pricing, can't imagine the price tag if they were only gonna make a couple hundred. My guess is they will be sitting on dealer lots this time next year with nice discounts. Seeing quite a few GT350s sitting on lots around here.

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Current pricing reflects volume production pricing, can't imagine the price tag if they were only gonna make a couple hundred. My guess is they will be sitting on dealer lots this time next year with nice discounts. Seeing quite a few GT350s sitting on lots around here.

the GT350 is also in what, 3rd model year going on 4? With just 2 years of production on the GT500 I think the only ones sitting on lots for long are the ones that refuse to drop the huge ADM. I think year 1 they're gonna move fast (outside of huge ADM dealers), year 2 they might sit a bit longer but won't be getting discounted.

the GT350 is also in what, 3rd model year going on 4? With just 2 years of production on the GT500 I think the only ones sitting on lots for long are the ones that refuse to drop the huge ADM. I think year 1 they're gonna move fast (outside of huge ADM dealers), year 2 they might sit a bit longer but won't be getting discounted.

Starting to see discounts on Bullitt Mustangs, one dealer close to me had 4 and another had three. They can't move those, because they cost to much and the market has been played out... 3rd time they have made a variation.

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Sorry the GT500 is an impressive car but in that price range they can keep it. Maybe in a few years when the market calms down like it did with the GT350ís we will look into one. I know the big killer for us is the fact there is no manual option. We drove a new 19 GT with the 10 speed auto and it was impressive, but it just wasnít anywhere near as much fun to drive.