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: [I]I got started a couple of days ago. The first day, I just worked on my UHMW sliders. Those are incredibly tough to cut. Last night, I started the construction mode. I cut skis for skate plates, and attached the following :
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: One skate boot, two skateboard riser pads, two ace skateboard trucks, one slider riser block, & one slider.
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: After I had them all positioned properly, I glued my riser block to the plate, glued the slider to the block, and bolted it all firmly in place to the plate. I am starting boot number two now, and and I should have that done by the end of today. If I move quick enough, I'll also grind down all the corners on the skis so that there are no sharp corners. I always do that last, so that I can shape the skis to the curves of my newly mounted boots.[/I][CENTER]
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: I have pics, though they were taken in the dark. Sorry about that. I'm posting them below, but not sure if they are small enough for this message board. If not, I'll resize them later for you all to see.
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: Boots, Ski plates, Slider UHMW, skate bolts, truck riser
: pads, skateboard trucks, & riser block for the slider.
: Wheels & Bearings not shown.
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: Side view. Note, the riser block has same location markings as the slider and the plate.
: Easier later to line up during final assembly.
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: A bottom view of the slider and trucks bolted on before detailing. Note the markings.
: Very important when setting up the alignment.
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: An end shot. Kinda hard to even see.
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: Slider plate after insetting bolt holes.
: Slider riser block after cutting weight with 1'2" and 1/4" holes.
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: Close up of inset slider plate bolt holes and position markings.
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: Close up of inset slider plate bolt holes and position markings.

Those look tight, Brother. Can't wait to see the final result. And by that, of course I mean you tearing it up in those new SK8s!!!
I like that idea of the skis for the base plates....I've never thought of that. I know some people with the sandwiched aluminum/laminate layer plates, but that's a new one for me. I love the innovative mind of the modern rollerskater!
Keep it up........PEACE....Jay

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biffsk8er: Progress. (31. Mar. 2009 21:52)

[I]I got started a couple of days ago. The first day, I just worked on my UHMW sliders. Those are incredibly tough to cut. Last night, I started the construction mode. I cut skis for skate plates, and attached the following :

After I had them all positioned properly, I glued my riser block to the plate, glued the slider to the block, and bolted it all firmly in place to the plate. I am starting boot number two now, and and I should have that done by the end of today. If I move quick enough, I'll also grind down all the corners on the skis so that there are no sharp corners. I always do that last, so that I can shape the skis to the curves of my newly mounted boots.[/I][CENTER]

I have pics, though they were taken in the dark. Sorry about that. I'm posting them below, but not sure if they are small enough for this message board. If not, I'll resize them later for you all to see.

Your slider looks good! I also learned a new word: "to inset". In my description of my skates I always used "to countersink".

: I have pics, though they were taken in the dark. Sorry about that. I'm posting them below, but not sure if they are small enough for this message board. If not, I'll resize them later for you all to see.

Using the [IMG] tag is technically speaking not posting. There goes no copy of your images to the adinfinitum.de server, as is the case when you use the image field below the text box. Therefore, a size limitation applies only to posting an image to the roller skate forum. Apart from the disadvantage of the size limit, it also has one big advantage: The images will be available as long as the forum is available, even if the image hosting site isn't there any more.

So far looks great! Look heavy though. I have mine all hollowed out. Is that wood block heavy? It looks very stable though! I cant wait to see the final product and action shots!!

: Your slider looks good! I also learned a new word: "to inset". In my description of my skates I always used "to countersink".
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: : I have pics, though they were taken in the dark. Sorry about that. I'm posting them below, but not sure if they are small enough for this message board. If not, I'll resize them later for you all to see.
:
: Using the [IMG] tag is technically speaking not posting. There goes no copy of your images to the adinfinitum.de server, as is the case when you use the image field below the text box. Therefore, a size limitation applies only to posting an image to the roller skate forum. Apart from the disadvantage of the size limit, it also has one big advantage: The images will be available as long as the forum is available, even if the image hosting site isn't there any more.

: [I]I got started a couple of days ago. The first day, I just worked on my UHMW sliders. Those are incredibly tough to cut. Last night, I started the construction mode. I cut skis for skate plates, and attached the following :
:
: One skate boot, two skateboard riser pads, two ace skateboard trucks, one slider riser block, & one slider.
:
: After I had them all positioned properly, I glued my riser block to the plate, glued the slider to the block, and bolted it all firmly in place to the plate. I am starting boot number two now, and and I should have that done by the end of today. If I move quick enough, I'll also grind down all the corners on the skis so that there are no sharp corners. I always do that last, so that I can shape the skis to the curves of my newly mounted boots.[/I][CENTER]
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: I have pics, though they were taken in the dark. Sorry about that. I'm posting them below, but not sure if they are small enough for this message board. If not, I'll resize them later for you all to see.
:
:
: Boots, Ski plates, Slider UHMW, skate bolts, truck riser
: pads, skateboard trucks, & riser block for the slider.
: Wheels & Bearings not shown.
:
:
: Side view. Note, the riser block has same location markings as the slider and the plate.
: Easier later to line up during final assembly.
:
:
: A bottom view of the slider and trucks bolted on before detailing. Note the markings.
: Very important when setting up the alignment.
:
:
: An end shot. Kinda hard to even see.
:
:
: Slider plate after insetting bolt holes.
: Slider riser block after cutting weight with 1'2" and 1/4" holes.
:
:
: Close up of inset slider plate bolt holes and position markings.
:
:
: Close up of inset slider plate bolt holes and position markings.

Those look tight, Brother. Can't wait to see the final result. And by that, of course I mean you tearing it up in those new SK8s!!!
I like that idea of the skis for the base plates....I've never thought of that. I know some people with the sandwiched aluminum/laminate layer plates, but that's a new one for me. I love the innovative mind of the modern rollerskater!
Keep it up........PEACE....Jay

: Those look tight, Brother. Can't wait to see the final result. And by that, of course I mean you tearing it up in those new SK8s!!!
: I like that idea of the skis for the base plates....I've never thought of that. I know some people with the sandwiched aluminum/laminate layer plates, but that's a new one for me. I love the innovative mind of the modern rollerskater!
: Keep it up........PEACE....Jay

Thanks, though I can't claim to be the first to use skis. I'd seen it done before on the web somewhere years ago.

: So far looks great! Look heavy though. I have mine all hollowed out. Is that wood block heavy? It looks very stable though! I cant wait to see the final product and action shots!!

The block is really pretty light. On the second skate, I drilled even more holes through it to make it even lighter. The skateboard trucks are the really heavy item. But, I find that worrying about ounces/grams on vert skates is pointless. Your speed makes up for the weight. And your legs are really very strong and able to handle the minimal extra weight.

Also, the skis are very light, yet very strong. They help keep the weight down. I used 10 mounting bolts per skate. Four for each truck, and 2 for the slider apparatus.

And yes, the stability looks promising. I might, after trying them out, cut some angles on the sides for royales and farfs. I might also cut a trough through the middle for rails &/or coping.

: I like that idea of the skis for the base plates....I've never thought of that. I know some people with the sandwiched aluminum/laminate layer plates, but that's a new one for me. I love the innovative mind of the modern rollerskater!

Alex has done his skates with skis as base last year and there have been quite some skaters in Europe doing this in the Golden Age of roller skating.

Yeah, I think you'll have a set of bad ass skates!! If I had known, I would have gone the ski route myself. I am very happy with my vert skates now! One day I'll change the boot, but I have adjusted to my sliders being more of a V shaped so they grab onto the coping. They seem to be holding up well. But I do like the wide base you have!!

Awesome job!! I love rollerskating since there are so many creative people here. Its cool that everyones skates are different. ;-D

: : So far looks great! Look heavy though. I have mine all hollowed out. Is that wood block heavy? It looks very stable though! I cant wait to see the final product and action shots!!
:
: The block is really pretty light. On the second skate, I drilled even more holes through it to make it even lighter. The skateboard trucks are the really heavy item. But, I find that worrying about ounces/grams on vert skates is pointless. Your speed makes up for the weight. And your legs are really very strong and able to handle the minimal extra weight.
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: Also, the skis are very light, yet very strong. They help keep the weight down. I used 10 mounting bolts per skate. Four for each truck, and 2 for the slider apparatus.
:
: And yes, the stability looks promising. I might, after trying them out, cut some angles on the sides for royales and farfs. I might also cut a trough through the middle for rails &/or coping.
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: I'll get you those finished shots and action shots asap.
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: Cheers!
: Biff

: : Alex has done his skates with skis as base last year and there have been quite some skaters in Europe doing this in the Golden Age of roller skating.
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: *Is Alex still posting?? How did his skates work out??*

The lazy bum isn't posting. :-((

But his skates worked out great and he is ripping with them. If I get round to creating a YoutTube account, I might be posting a vid of him from last September. But I still didn't digest the legals of YouTube ...

: : : Of course. If you look closely at my How-Tos, you can see that the holes for the screws with the conical heads are conical.
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: : * Are they "How to" pics or vids? *
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: Just click on the link labeled "Vertical Rollerskating" on top of the page and find out ...

: After posting this, the pic did not show up under my name in the pics and vids area. I'm trying to post it another way to see if this puts it in my list of pics. Here goes nothing!
: [img src="http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/75/l_c2d38a89c78a4c0393ddd83a72c4cdb3.jpg" /]
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Bernhard, what am I doing wrong?? Grr...
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/75/l_c2d38a89c78a4c0393ddd83a72c4cdb3.jpg

the best way ist to really post the image, which means using the dedicated image field below the content entry field. You have to have the image on your local hard drive and it has to be less than 100 KB in size. You have to use the button right of the image entry field to navigate to the file on your local hard drive. You can only have one image per message this way, but it not only shows up in the index but you also get a preview when you put your mouse pointer over an image number (works at least with the Firefox browser).

The second best way is to put an image link in your message. You can put in as many links as you want. They now also show up in your image index but you don't get previews (this is a bit of a copyright problem. Since the image is on an image hosting server, I would have to pull a copy to provide a preview. But if Google does it, maybe I get away with it too?). The way to to this is to enclose the image in [img] tags. [img]http://www.server.tld/image.jpg[/img] should do it.

: After posting this, the pic did not show up under my name in the pics and vids area. I'm trying to post it another way to see if this puts it in my list of pics. Here goes nothing!

All right. I modified your image link to get it working, but this does not update the image index. Now I rebuilt the image index and the image shows up there as you would expect. Sorry for any confusion!

: Biff,
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: the best way ist to really post the image, which means using the dedicated image field below the content entry field. You have to have the image on your local hard drive and it has to be less than 100 KB in size. You have to use the button right of the image entry field to navigate to the file on your local hard drive. You can only have one image per message this way, but it not only shows up in the index but you also get a preview when you put your mouse pointer over an image number (works at least with the Firefox browser).
:
: The second best way is to put an image link in your message. You can put in as many links as you want. They now also show up in your image index but you don't get previews (this is a bit of a copyright problem. Since the image is on an image hosting server, I would have to pull a copy to provide a preview. But if Google does it, maybe I get away with it too?). The way to to this is to enclose the image in [img] tags. should do it.

those sk8s look rad, have lots o fun in them.
i made my 1st longboard out of a cut down snowboard on a cut down snow ski, kids are still on it.
cheers, h .

: After posting this, the pic did not show up under my name in the pics and vids area. I'm trying to post it another way to see if this puts it in my list of pics. Here goes nothing!
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looking good...hope you get on them soon and premiere some vids. nice job!

NICE!! Actually, those might not be super heavy if its regular lumber. Great job!!

: : After posting this, the pic did not show up under my name in the pics and vids area. I'm trying to post it another way to see if this puts it in my list of pics. Here goes nothing!
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: looking good...hope you get on them soon and premiere some vids. nice job!

: NICE!! Actually, those might not be super heavy if its regular lumber. Great job!!
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: : : After posting this, the pic did not show up under my name in the pics and vids area. I'm trying to post it another way to see if this puts it in my list of pics. Here goes nothing!
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: : looking good...hope you get on them soon and premiere some vids. nice job!

Does having the front trucks mounted near the toes make turning more difficult? I think the longer wheelbase is good for stability, but I think it would make me more clumsy than I already am. thx.

I just resized and reposted my pic before I saw that you had already fixed it. A day late and a dollar short. :P

Cheers, and thanks,
Biff

: : After posting this, the pic did not show up under my name in the pics and vids area. I'm trying to post it another way to see if this puts it in my list of pics. Here goes nothing!
:
: All right. I modified your image link to get it working, but this does not update the image index. Now I rebuilt the image index and the image shows up there as you would expect. Sorry for any confusion!

**I found that it hardly affects vert skating. Usually, one tends to lift the feet for movement rather than to turn the trucks. However, I do still get responsive turning with a longer wheel base. My previous set up was also a long wheel base, and I had no real problems.**

: Does having the front trucks mounted near the toes make turning more difficult? I think the longer wheelbase is good for stability, but I think it would make me more clumsy than I already am. thx.

I skated in my street skates before I cut holes in them. The front trucks were beyond the base of my toes. I had issues with carving the little bowl with them! So I cot my plates down.

: : NICE!! Actually, those might not be super heavy if its regular lumber. Great job!!
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: : : : After posting this, the pic did not show up under my name in the pics and vids area. I'm trying to post it another way to see if this puts it in my list of pics. Here goes nothing!
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: : : looking good...hope you get on them soon and premiere some vids. nice job!
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: Does having the front trucks mounted near the toes make turning more difficult? I think the longer wheelbase is good for stability, but I think it would make me more clumsy than I already am. thx.