Comments on: Versteeg thinks “cancers” Bettman, Daly should be gone once a new CBA is reachedhttps://nhl.nbcsports.com/2012/11/19/versteeg-thinks-cancers-bettman-daly-should-be-gone-once-a-new-cba-is-reached/
ProHockeyTalk on NBCSports.comThu, 24 May 2018 17:49:41 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: shotzongoalhttps://nhl.nbcsports.com/2012/11/19/versteeg-thinks-cancers-bettman-daly-should-be-gone-once-a-new-cba-is-reached/comment-page-1/#comment-113068
Wed, 21 Nov 2012 16:00:54 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=878773#comment-113068I think you missed Bills4 point. Bettman and the NHL added 250 player positions by increasing the league from 21 to 30 teams. His final sentence appears to be sarcasm meaning; 250 players should be thanking the NHL for expanding and giving them NHL jobs earning 2.5 Million a season each.
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Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:02:27 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=878773#comment-113058@id4joey

I am trying to keep things in perspective. You compared a pro athlete to a single mother with children. You’re talking about keeping things in perspective and then you make a comparison that is way out of perspective. That’s a tough situation to be in but it has absolutely nothing to do with this lockout. And you misunderstood the hard work and sacrifice part of my comment too. It takes years and years of practice and commitment to play sports at this level. And the work doesn’t stop once you’re there because there are always younger guys behind you trying to take your spot on the roster. The whole point is that nobody would just take less money for the same job without any resistance.

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Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:36:53 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=878773#comment-112935McNeels – You say that … “Bettman doesn’t write Versteeg’s checks” ? Well I would counter by saying that among other things, Bettman writes “everyone’s” checks by virtue of his position.

Tatdue – Friend, I knew that about Marchant. The point I was trying to make is that “actions” will always provoke “reactions” when dealing with powerful people like these NHL owners. Yes, in Marchant’s case it turned out well for him in the end. Nonetheless, his days as a Blue Jacket were over the “second” he opened his mouth the way he did.

What I’m saying is calling somebody a “cancer” is childish and does nothing good for these negotiations as a whole. In the end, it’s going to take these two sides getting into a room and politely hashing this out. It’s hard enough, but then you have guys like Versteeg and White coming out and calling the other side “idiots” and “cancers”. It’s just plain dumb. I get that they’re frustrated, but this is no way to go about it. I don’t want to hear bickering from anyone, I want to hear results! I honestly believe that comments from these players will do nothing to aid these negotiations and, if anything, they will prevent common ground from being reached on some of these issues. That’s the main problem right now.

As paying fans who keep their business running, we have every right to open our mouths. I have my opinion, and you have yours. We’re all sick and tired of sitting here and hearing the rhetoric and the posturing. It’s time for some actual results. Remember a few weeks ago when both sides decided to keep their mouths closed? That’s when we saw actual conversations and actual progress made. Lets keep it that way between these two sides.

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Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:33:45 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=878773#comment-112871I agree that 30 teams is too many but 21 is too little if you want to make big revenue. Sponsorship and TV is a big part of sports now and they wouldn’t have the deal they have with NBC if there was no foot print at all in the south. When they were at 21 teams LA was the furthest southern city and that was it. No Dallas, no TB, no FLA, no Carolina no Ducks, no Nashville and no PHX. When Dallas was good they sold that place out. TB was the highest drawing US based franchise from 04-07 I believe. The Ducks just by their name brought people in. You can say some places shouldn’t have a team but some have worked at times. Just tough to compete with so many teams now or I should say stay competitive. I think 26 teams would have been good. Also people forget that back in 1989 it was the league who wanted to expand to 28 teams by the end of the 90’s. 4 years before Bettman was there. Sure you can put NSH and ATL as bad expansion choices on him and for keeping the Yotes in PHX but SJ, ANH, TB and FL were all put in motion well before him.

Also it’s not all about being watered down as to why 3rd liners make money. That’s part of it but these owners overspend just to make a headline and try to draw guys to their team. Also once the cap went up so did the floor which forced a lot of small teams to have to spend to get to the floor and the only way to do that was to give money to guys who shouldn’t have it.

Bettman’s not going anywhere to the people who think he should. Unless the owners think he’s such a lightning rod that nothing will ever get done. He’s done exactly what he should for the owners…make them money.

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Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:24:14 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=878773#comment-112857I guess frustration has set in and they are at a loss. I do believe that Bettman and the NHL should pay for the lockout since he was the one who declared it. Looks good on him he needs to be held accountable. The NHLPA said they would be willing to play while negotiating but Bettman wanted no part of that so let him pay the advertisers and anyone else who pissed overt the lockout.
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Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:47:23 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=878773#comment-112854Sorry blom but Marchant was put on waivers because they (Columbus) needed cap space for Fedorov and he refused to waive his no-trade clause. You also forgot to mention the little other fact that he was immediately picked up by Anaheim and won the Stanley Cup. He then went on to finish (7 years later) a 17 year career….
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Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:58:55 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=878773#comment-112851Geve me a f en break. “All the hard work and and all the sacrifices the players had to make to where they are now” BS everything they have they owe to the trail blazers before them. Brush up on your NHL history. You want to talk about sacrifice and hard work, then talk to the single mom raising 2 kids on a Walmart salary because a dead beat father walked out on them. Lets but all this in perspective.
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Tue, 20 Nov 2012 03:45:38 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=878773#comment-112817All you idiots who agree that Bettman is a cancer. The only reason he is a cancer to the game of hockey is because he has grown it to 30 teams when it should still be a 21 team league. It is funny you agree with players who open their mouths when, if it wasn’t for Gary Bettman, 30% of these players would be unemployed. The league is so waterdowned with talent, you have 3rd liner making 2.5 million a year. Ya, the players should really complain about what Gary Bettman has done for them!!!
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Tue, 20 Nov 2012 03:14:52 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=878773#comment-112806Uh-huh. The difference, of course, being Marchant trashed his own team’s ownership. Trashing the commissioner is completely different. Bettman doesn’t write Versteeg’s checks.
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Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:30:27 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=878773#comment-112792But is this not what we all have done since the economy bubble burst . I’m sure there have been far less raises handed out over the past few years if any were given at all . Yet the cost of living has risen at a fast pace. Why should the players not have to do the very thing we have. Really when you compare their loss to ours , there is no comparison.

I am just really sick of people sticking up for these whinny kids cause maybe they think they will be actuall friends on twitter after this !! Smarten up people …. The players still won’t know who you are not will they really care about it !!

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Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:23:17 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=878773#comment-112783Yesterday in Montreal witnessed a sickening and ugly UFC “bloodbath” which thousands of people apparently enjoyed to no end … go figure eh ?
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Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:19:44 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=878773#comment-112782You morons can thumbs down all you want …. You know I’m right . The sole purpose of an agent is to get the best deal possible based on the players wants/ needs, which certainly have money near the top of the list. Players who turn down money for the betterment of the team are extremely rare and do not represent theajorlty of the pa.
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Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:17:20 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=878773#comment-11278026 and dumb as a rock! He’ll have a future on the NBC broadcast team.
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Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:16:47 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=878773#comment-112779Mmcneels – There was a player by the name of Todd Marchant who had some choice words for the Blue Jacket’s ownership back in the 2004 lockout. As soon as that lockout ended, he was removed from the team “post haste”. Yes, no doubt that Bettman is human excrement. But he’s still the commissioner and until he’s gone, then it’s very unwise for people like Versteeg to speak out in such a fashion.
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Tue, 20 Nov 2012 01:53:01 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=878773#comment-112774Well put and I couldn’t agree more. Its astonishing how the public opinion turned against the “greedy over-payed spoiled brats”, Nobody seems to care about all the hard work and all the sacrifices the players had to make to get to where they are now.
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Tue, 20 Nov 2012 01:47:46 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=878773#comment-112771I’m a big hockey fan. But at this point I could care less if there’s a season or not. I actually haven’t missed the NHL at all.
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Tue, 20 Nov 2012 01:37:06 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=878773#comment-112768This proves concussions are a big problem in the NHL. All the players are idiots, too bad. At least it will be a humorous Dateline someday.
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Tue, 20 Nov 2012 01:35:21 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=878773#comment-112766“hey Versteeg…..GO AND F!@# YOURSELF!!”
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Tue, 20 Nov 2012 01:29:26 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=878773#comment-112765Another inescapable fact: It is TOTALLY the NHL’s fault – under Bettman’s leadership – that it did not adequately address all its problems during the 04-05 lockout. Bettman had his chance seven years ago to negotiate a CBA that could have secured a healthy financial future for the sport of hockey. He failed to do so. The league was right in principle, but wrong in execution. It is fair to place all the responsibility on Bettman for that.

The league is still right in principle in 2012. The NHL needs to be made financially viable. In the end, the players will have to accept some kind of salary roll back as well as the revised contractual guidelines. I agree it’s up to them how long this lockout goes on. But it’s not hard to understand the hateful attitude towards Bettman. It’s like, ‘dude needs a f-ing mulligan to get this right?! C’mon , man!’ It is inexcusable that we have to go through this again.