Thanks, that would be great, unless it is on the agile 2008 DVD then I
can find it there.

> For us, depression occurred when we realized the project was failing and
> that waterfall was failing us. In order to get out of this phase of
> helplessness, we had to make some changes in our processes. In retrospect,
> that was a turning point: fail or change.
>

INteresting, so do you feel that the stages themselves are a little
out of order when ot comes to the implementation of change? I would
see what you described as a very early stage.

-d

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