]]>By: Davidhttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/04/11/gay-soldier-raises-4000-for-stonewall/comments/#comment-185487
Thu, 14 Apr 2011 10:28:07 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=24148#comment-185487Are you trying to suggest that Stonewall is responsible for the advances in gay rights in Britain.

They are not.

And their leader Ben Summerskill was caught red-handed engaging in a homophobic campaign against marriage equality. And he remains in his job.

That is evidence of the utter contempt Stonewall has for LGBT people.

Do not donate money to this ridiculoius Stonewall Group.

]]>By: Davidhttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/04/11/gay-soldier-raises-4000-for-stonewall/comments/#comment-185482
Thu, 14 Apr 2011 10:25:11 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=24148#comment-185482There is not a single issue that Stonewall campaigns on that cannot be done by an organisation that believes in full LGBT equality.

Until Stonewall sacks Ben Summerskill for his revolting behaviour in campaigning against LGBT marriage equality, then quite simply Stonewall cannot be trusted on ANY issue.

]]>By: Dan Filsonhttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/04/11/gay-soldier-raises-4000-for-stonewall/comments/#comment-184766
Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:07:25 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=24148#comment-184766I get fed up with anti-Stonewall rants like this. Stonewall is a trustee-managed charity and campaigning organisation. If you don’t like it, form your own. It has been over the years infinitely more effective than the predecessor the Campaign for Homosexual Equality, bless its soul, and only the 1960s Homosexual Law Reform Society achieved anything as much as Stonewall has. And if only Stonewall did have a multi-million pound hedge fund. Its accounts are published, check them out instead of making silly posts like that.
]]>By: Jock S. Traphttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/04/11/gay-soldier-raises-4000-for-stonewall/comments/#comment-184718
Tue, 12 Apr 2011 16:25:31 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=24148#comment-184718Stonewall, sadly lost sight when they had to be forced into accepting they had to campaign for Equal marriage. The way they handled it was appalling and I feel they should make some apology to the LGBT community for dragging its heels.

However because of this we do get side tracked we forget that they still are relevent and they still do good work.

]]>By: Stuhttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/04/11/gay-soldier-raises-4000-for-stonewall/comments/#comment-184496
Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:15:28 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=24148#comment-184496Given that the definition of homophobia (OED) is “an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexual people”. I fail to see how Summerskill is homophobic.
True, his claims “Stonewall is not a democracy” came across as arrogant and damaging to the organisation. True, the manner he led the marriage issue was wrong and damaging not only to himself and Stonewall but also to the LGBT equality agenda.
However, none of these things mean he has an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexual people. Indeed, there are significant reasons to consider that he is and has been very supportive of the LGBT communities. Yes, Summerskill needs to apologise and demonstrate that Stonewall has changed on this issue. Is he homophobic – categorically – no.
]]>By: Dandelionhttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/04/11/gay-soldier-raises-4000-for-stonewall/comments/#comment-184430
Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:42:39 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=24148#comment-184430Yes, it does make him a homophobe.
That is like me denying to marry a white and black, because it might offend someone (Christians) or I am worried about the child being in that environment (sound familiar?). The first reason is exactly why he thinks gay people shouldn’t have the right to marry, along with his long chain of idiotic comments about it plunging Britain into debt – do we not pay taxes too?
]]>By: Williamhttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/04/11/gay-soldier-raises-4000-for-stonewall/comments/#comment-184365
Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:27:34 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=24148#comment-184365Like Stonewall needs another £4000 donated to its multi-million pound hedge fund when there are far more deserving causes…
]]>By: Stuhttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/04/11/gay-soldier-raises-4000-for-stonewall/comments/#comment-184331
Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:25:13 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=24148#comment-184331@David

You have a valid point

Although while I do accept Summerskill was arrogant and wrong in his attitude to gay marriage last year – that does not make him a homophobe

I also think this thread should be more about congratulating Lance Corporal Wharton both for his fundraising and willingness to stand up and be counted as a role model (in a Stonewall campaign) to school children.

Although it is a real shame that he raised this money on behalf of the Stonewall charity.

It would have been a much better action to raise the money on behalf of an organisation which believes in LGBT equality.

Stonewall does not believe in LGBT equality – as evidenced by the grotesque, homophobic treachery of Ben Summerskill who was caught redhanded campaigning AGAINST marriage equality at the LibDem Party conference last year.

As a result of the outcry Stonewall now claim they support LGBT equality.

Yet the homophobe Ben Summerskill remains in his job.

And Stonewall haven’t done a single thing to advance marriage equality.

This soldier in a sense is wasting his time and money for an organisation whose leadership believes that he is a 2nd class citizen.

Do NOT donate money to Stonewall. They represent no-one but their own board. They certainly don’t represent those of us who believe in LGBT equality.

Well done on his willingness to be a strong role model to create a culture of acceptance

]]>By: johnhttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/04/11/gay-soldier-raises-4000-for-stonewall/comments/#comment-184077
Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:57:55 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=24148#comment-184077Yeah, yeah, you’re just a normal guy but when it comes to donating your blood then you’re just one of those dirty gays that just can’t help sleeping around with thousands of guys……What’s the point of positve gay images when ultimtely we’re not good enough to be allowed to marriy and we’re not allowed to donate blood etc….Has our image really changed??
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