Yeah ... as a sidepoint, I remember "good graphics" being important for games back then - a big selling point. I've never played a PS4 before, but I was checking out some titles on YouTube to have a rough idea what to expect. Holy shit ... it makes me wonder how they're going to outdo it? Surely it just can't really get much better than what it is now, in terms of visuals. Those games look absolutely insane - they're more visually impressive than real life - and run at 4K resolution. What's the next thing going to be? Why even bother working on a PS5?

It seems the only way forwards from here in terms of games is to start concentrate more on the actual game mechanics, A.I. and stuff like that, because any increase in visual quality is going to be negligible at worst and superflous at best.

get Battlefield 1, add yourself to the bf1 thread, kiss goodbye to 1000 hours of your life minimum. awesome game, played by awesome people.

Not so much into those war games to be honest. Without wanting to sound judegemental, I find something a little odd about people "playing" at World War 1. It almost seems disrespectful. We've turned a nightmare into a bit of a laugh with mates.

That said, I did have a shooting game on my PC years ago that I liked: Rainbow Six. It was cool planning out covert tactical stealth missions and then playing them through.

Yeah ... as a sidepoint, I remember "good graphics" being important for games back then - a big selling point. I've never played a PS4 before, but I was checking out some titles on YouTube to have a rough idea what to expect. Holy shit ... it makes me wonder how they're going to outdo it? Surely it just can't really get much better than what it is now, in terms of visuals. Those games look absolutely insane - they're more visually impressive than real life - and run at 4K resolution. What's the next thing going to be? Why even bother working on a PS5?

It seems the only way forwards from here in terms of games is to start concentrate more on the actual game mechanics, A.I. and stuff like that, because any increase in visual quality is going to be negligible at worst and superflous at best.

In terms of the tech, getting more games running at 60 frames per second with no slowdown is probably next on the agenda, and native 4K resolution (though that seems a bit pointless to me). The graphics themselves can always look even better too I guess.

Gameplay is king though. That's why my PS4 is gathering dust atm and I haven't put my Nintendo Switch down in months.

get Battlefield 1, add yourself to the bf1 thread, kiss goodbye to 1000 hours of your life minimum. awesome game, played by awesome people.

Not so much into those war games to be honest. Without wanting to sound judegemental, I find something a little odd about people "playing" at World War 1. It almost seems disrespectful. We've turned a nightmare into a bit of a laugh with mates.

That said, I did have a shooting game on my PC years ago that I liked: Rainbow Six. It was cool planning out covert tactical stealth missions and then playing them through.

don't be a Chop - its nothing about WW1 really that makes it enjoyable, and all the in game stories are respectfull, poignant and historical, and nothing to make them a laugh or disparage any of the WW1 events or combatants. If the graphics were slightly different, it would still be a fab game if you were shooting cowboys, or martians, or Mutant Plants - its the games mechanics, feel and maps that make it so fun, not the WW1 part.

Am afraid to say, your comment re 'disrespectful' is just utter bollocks, even for you.

get Battlefield 1, add yourself to the bf1 thread, kiss goodbye to 1000 hours of your life minimum. awesome game, played by awesome people.

Not so much into those war games to be honest. Without wanting to sound judegemental, I find something a little odd about people "playing" at World War 1. It almost seems disrespectful. We've turned a nightmare into a bit of a laugh with mates.

That said, I did have a shooting game on my PC years ago that I liked: Rainbow Six. It was cool planning out covert tactical stealth missions and then playing them through.

don't be a Chop - its nothing about WW1 really that makes it enjoyable, and all the in game stories are respectfull, poignant and historical, and nothing to make them a laugh or disparage any of the WW1 events or combatants. If the graphics were slightly different, it would still be a fab game if you were shooting cowboys, or martians, or Mutant Plants - its the games mechanics, feel and maps that make it so fun, not the WW1 part.

Am afraid to say, your comment re 'disrespectful' is just utter bollocks, even for you.

You're probably right. It's just me. I see some fat kid getting kicks from a simulated war experience and it irks me a bit.

get Battlefield 1, add yourself to the bf1 thread, kiss goodbye to 1000 hours of your life minimum. awesome game, played by awesome people.

Not so much into those war games to be honest. Without wanting to sound judegemental, I find something a little odd about people "playing" at World War 1. It almost seems disrespectful. We've turned a nightmare into a bit of a laugh with mates.

That said, I did have a shooting game on my PC years ago that I liked: Rainbow Six. It was cool planning out covert tactical stealth missions and then playing them through.

don't be a Chop - its nothing about WW1 really that makes it enjoyable, and all the in game stories are respectfull, poignant and historical, and nothing to make them a laugh or disparage any of the WW1 events or combatants. If the graphics were slightly different, it would still be a fab game if you were shooting cowboys, or martians, or Mutant Plants - its the games mechanics, feel and maps that make it so fun, not the WW1 part.

Am afraid to say, your comment re 'disrespectful' is just utter bollocks, even for you.

You're probably right. It's just me. I see some fat kid getting kicks from a simulated war experience and it irks me a bit.

I'm sure it's harmless though. I might check it out.

P.S. I said "almost" ...

those Fat kids getting enjoyment, will be the Irish players. They love playing with the guns & blowing up British Soldiers

Yeah ... as a sidepoint, I remember "good graphics" being important for games back then - a big selling point. I've never played a PS4 before, but I was checking out some titles on YouTube to have a rough idea what to expect. Holy shit ... it makes me wonder how they're going to outdo it? Surely it just can't really get much better than what it is now, in terms of visuals. Those games look absolutely insane - they're more visually impressive than real life - and run at 4K resolution. What's the next thing going to be? Why even bother working on a PS5?

It seems the only way forwards from here in terms of games is to start concentrate more on the actual game mechanics, A.I. and stuff like that, because any increase in visual quality is going to be negligible at worst and superflous at best.

There was a rumour that they wouldn't, just roll out PS4 pro and keep with small upgrades phasing old systems stage by stage. However as the PS4 pro hasn't been a huge success and some backlash about not being able to play new games for older PS4 fans that has been nixed somewhat. It doesn't help the 4k stuff means downloading is sloooooow!

get Battlefield 1, add yourself to the bf1 thread, kiss goodbye to 1000 hours of your life minimum. awesome game, played by awesome people.

Not so much into those war games to be honest. Without wanting to sound judegemental, I find something a little odd about people "playing" at World War 1. It almost seems disrespectful. We've turned a nightmare into a bit of a laugh with mates.

That said, I did have a shooting game on my PC years ago that I liked: Rainbow Six. It was cool planning out covert tactical stealth missions and then playing them through.

There are a few Rainbow Six games out for PS4.Siege is one of them that I play, it's mostly a team game and requires a fair amount of tactics as you can die with a single shot.

I like sports and open-world / survival type games. What else should I consider?.

The Last of Us (Linear but story driven survival adventure)Metal Gear The Phantom Pain ( Mission based but plenty of open world type exploration options. Not optimised for PS 4 Pro though?)Uncharted 4 ( Treasure hunting action adventure, not the best one which is Uncharted 2 but 4 is "native" to PS4 Pro)GTA 5 as above ( Open world + missions of criminal adventures. Not optimised for PS 4 Pro though? )