Well now that my dealer has spoken, the ABL issue is done in my head.
Am I disappointed? Yes very much so but what can you do? I don't care if they figure it out for later models for the dash, I'm getting my Camaro and that's all that matters at this point.

Wonder if that's it for me for waiting on any other option/accessory...
Yup I think thats it, now to clean out the garage and wait for my Camaro to come home.

I have used the same stuff to do "ambiant lighting" in a few peoples cars and when done RIGHT and TASTEFULLY it looks very much like the pictures on the Camaro website did. And unlike GM you can make it come on when YOU want it to and not when they think is right. Just order an extra factory switch from the parts counter and install it on the dash or uder the dash. Like my sig sais, stock sucks.

Our goal was to have the look of the early rendering (and it was just a rendering -- never an announced feature), but there were a couple of issues with execution. In the end, a desire to have the highest quality look, fit and feel for the interior won out (which is the way it should be). I know some will be disappointed, but I still think in the end we have the best in class interior.

I really think this is the true case. In the end we will all be glad GM didn't try to force something that would have compromised the reputation of the new Camaro.

You guys are all fun. ALL of you. The arguements and spats and fits are because we're all so passionate about this car. That's a good thing. (the passionate part)

Although as I said before I am dissapointed in this issue, in a way it is saving me money since I am for certain getting a 1SS instead of the 2SS now.. I just don't see how the interior is going to look good with only the doors lit up with LED's and not the dash. If anything, it would look more normal to not have them on the doors and only have them on the dash.. Oh well, I'm sure we will see lots of aftermarket LED's or fiber optic kits for the Camaro in the future, and I think by next year they will get this working..

You guys are all fun. ALL of you. The arguements and spats and fits are because we're all so passionate about this car. That's a good thing. (the passionate part)

That's what makes this website so different from all the others. You get everyone's views on something, both the good and the bad. Most of the regulars here appreciate that fact but others are either offended or intolerable of views that don't agree with their own.

i've always thought the dash lights might be a little distracting, but i'm not sure it will look good only on the doors.... i'm sure GM wouldnt let it look stupid just to check the ABL box.

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Why oh Why?
Windshield=10" vertical
mirror= 3 7/8" (that's almost 4") vertical
that means that the mirror is 38.75% the size of the vertical windshield...
it sure seems like the ratio could be better... just sayin....

Although as I said before I am dissapointed in this issue, in a way it is saving me money since I am for certain getting a 1SS instead of the 2SS now.. I just don't see how the interior is going to look good with only the doors lit up with LED's and not the dash. If anything, it would look more normal to not have them on the doors and only have them on the dash.. Oh well, I'm sure we will see lots of aftermarket LED's or fiber optic kits for the Camaro in the future, and I think by next year they will get this working..

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i've always thought the dash lights might be a little distracting, but i'm not sure it will look good only on the doors.... i'm sure GM wouldnt let it look stupid just to check the ABL box.

It is easy to picture how only having the doors lit up would look like since the molding for the car and the panels are staying the same clear plastic we've seen (with only a month till production can it change to anything else?).. And I think most people will simply turn or dim ABL on the doors down to nothing since it won't be anything special if its not across the dash as well).. It would be better if the lighting was not in the panels on the door but perhaps behind the door handle or door compartment (somewhere useful) but to have the panels lit up blue and the rest of the dash panels remain the clear plastic with blue behind it (or worse a flat painted blue or orange) makes no sense. With less than a month before production starts, we all need to see pictures of what ABL will look like in the Camaro to have piece of mind for those who ordered a 2SS.. The cloth on the 1SS that matches the two tone colors on the seats looks good in grey and beige. However I wonder how it will look on the 2SS now (to clarify I mean the texture or look of the panels)

That's what makes this website so different from all the others. You get everyone's views on something, both the good and the bad. Most of the regulars here appreciate that fact but others are either offended or intolerable of views that don't agree with their own.

Absolutely agreed, you get one or two folks being d*cks and it stiffles opinions / information.

Well, it's nice to hear and everything, but we are going to need new interior pictures here. Our cars will be here soon and it would sure be nice to know what we are buying.

Let's see this "doors only" lighting GM. If you are afraid to show us then I'm afraid of what else you're hiding. I've been itching to buy GM stock, but with shady things like this happening I'm reluctant...not a sign of strength by any means.

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We are the early orderers...we are GM's voluntary guinea pigs and their free source of feedback. How will we be thanked?

Well, it's nice to hear and everything, but we are going to need new interior pictures here. Our cars will be here soon and it would sure be nice to know what we are buying.

Let's see this "doors only" lighting GM. If you are afraid to show us then I'm afraid of what else you're hiding. I've been itching to buy GM stock, but with shady things like this happening I'm reluctant...not a sign of strength by any means.

If they show us before March 15, then all is good since we all will be able to change our orders if they haven't been pulled by then. Those of us with cyber grey orders will get an extra month or so however the prices may change for the worse after March 15 if we make changes since the current price won't be locked in. That info is coming from my dealer so I don't know how accurate it is..

Well, it's nice to hear and everything, but we are going to need new interior pictures here. Our cars will be here soon and it would sure be nice to know what we are buying.

Let's see this "doors only" lighting GM. If you are afraid to show us then I'm afraid of what else you're hiding. I've been itching to buy GM stock, but with shady things like this happening I'm reluctant...not a sign of strength by any means.

You will see it on Saturday... relax, people! GM is not "hiding" anything! They were working on it, tried to mimic the renderings, encountered problems, and now they're ready to show us the final product. Why will no one accept that?

Save your :upset: complaints until AFTER Saturday, if they are still valid. Until then...

You will see it on Saturday... relax, people! GM is not "hiding" anything! They were working on it, tried to mimic the renderings, encountered problems, and now they're ready to show us the final product. Why will no one accept that?

Save your :upset: complaints until AFTER Saturday, if they are still valid. Until then...

I was just in my ol' time machine and tossed her over to Saturday...can I complain now?

You will see it on Saturday... relax, people! GM is not "hiding" anything! They were working on it, tried to mimic the renderings, encountered problems, and now they're ready to show us the final product. Why will no one accept that?

Save your :upset: complaints until AFTER Saturday, if they are still valid. Until then...

Why are they waiting until Saturday to make an official announcement when Scott has already let the cat out of the bag officially? They've already decided not to have it so we are all voicing our opinions on the issue. We have the right to do it on this forum as it is not hurting anyone. The only possible "new" information we may get on Saturday is a better explanation as to "why?" abl simply didn't work on the dash. Wether or not a discounted price on the 2SS package will come into play, and or wether or not a full ambient lighting will appear or be worked on so it can be ready the next model year, which will be when the HUD and the color white will be available.

I was just in my ol' time machine and tossed her over to Saturday...can I complain now?

lol... I suppose so then? When you're done, I'd like to borrow that and go foward to the day my Camaro arrives... kthx

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Why are they waiting until Saturday to make an official announcement when Scott has already let the cat out of the bag officially? They've already decided not to have it so we are all voicing our opinions on the issue. We have the right to do it on this forum as it is not hurting anyone. The only possible "new" information we may get on Saturday is a better explanation as to "why?" abl simply didn't work on the dash. Wether or not a discounted price on the 2SS package will come into play, and or wether or not a full ambient lighting will appear or be worked on so it can be ready the next model year, which will be when the HUD and the color white will be available.

Saturday they will be showing the production version at the Cleveland Auto Show. Everyone can "oooooh", "ahhhhh", or "ewwww" at it and take pictures for us