I still can't figure out how to send you a non-public message, so I'll do it this way.

Please do not ever say anything negative about Sophia Z. again, especially in a public forum. Eric Z. is a big boy and he can handle himself. So can I. Sophia didn't open herself up for public ridicule, she didn't sign up for wikipedia, and she had no idea that someone was adding her name to the MENSA list. That was done, as a surprise, to make her smile, and no one would have complained if it had been deleted, twenty four hours after it was posted. The person posting it just wanted her to see it, once. Again, she is a late in life MENSA member, a late in life film producer, a late in life exhibiting photographer, and hopefully she'll soon be a late in life independent film award winner (if not an Oscar winner; yes, I hope God's ears are burning).

In any case, she didn't open herself up for public ridicule, she did nothing to provoke it, and no one has any right to post things about her. You're talking about someone who probably never had a bad word written on her report card, never got a bad work review, and was rarely, if ever insulted, in any way, by anyone who knew her. And you're talking about someone that a lot of people think of as special, and a lot of people look out for.

So you, in your infinite wisdom, decided that Sophia Z and I are sock puppets or meat puppets or whatever you choose to call us, and that gives you the right to take it upon yourself to badmouth someone, using her full name, in a public forum? You don't even have the guts to put up a screen name, much less your own name.

Sophia's involved in a project with Eric Zaccar. So am I. We're working with Eric Zaccar. Some of the other "sock puppets" are probably also people who are familiar with the work of Eric Zaccar and know that he's a rather talented and diverse writer who has thousands of fans and supporters in the New York area. So we all signed on to defend someone that we know, who we care about and whose work we are familiar with. That's the way it's supposed to be. I can't imagine why any of us, or anyone else, would want to do edits on people and articles that we didn't know anything about and that weren't involved in our personal affairs. We didn't sign on to promote Eric or to use your site (is it in fact YOUR site?) for publicity or public relations. We signed on to stop your site from bad mouthing him.

Again, in Brooklyn and Manhattan, where a lot of us come from, we grew up learning to mind our own business and not to bother anyone that doesn't bother us. Because ten people made comments on one subject and one subject alone means that this is the one subject that we have personal information about, that effects our lives and that we care about.

Our production company put together the financing for Eric to be able to spend months interviewing people, visiting prisons, reading court papers and reconds and traveling thousands of miles to research his screenplay, even though he probably already knew more about than almost anyone. You know why? Because some people write what they actually know about. Some of your "editors" might want to consider taking a page from Eric (oh yeah, I forgot, you deleted that page because you were experts on Eric Zaccar and his work). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robroams (talk • contribs) 05:11, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

I thought it might be useful for tracking which pages have {{Oldprodfull}} on it, but if others think it isn't so... so be it then. I will have no objections if they decide to delete it. FeinohaTalk, My master 22:29, 17 September 2009 (UTC)