I have just uploaded a new version of the track that features (among other things) a new second path. Its purpose is to give an easier but also longer alternative to the narrow road after the highway.Please give feedback about the new skybox, the performance (which should have improved) and all other things that annoy you. Unfortunately, the track is still rather heavy on resources, but at least some of those weird graphic bugs should be fixed now.

Wolfs {l Wrote}:I have just uploaded a new version of the track that features (among other things) a new second path. Its purpose is to give an easier but also longer alternative to the narrow road after the highway.Please give feedback about the new skybox, the performance (which should have improved) and all other things that annoy you. Unfortunately, the track is still rather heavy on resources, but at least some of those weird graphic bugs should be fixed now.

Wolfs {l Wrote}:I have just uploaded a new version of the track that features (among other things) a new second path. Its purpose is to give an easier but also longer alternative to the narrow road after the highway.Please give feedback about the new skybox, the performance (which should have improved) and all other things that annoy you. Unfortunately, the track is still rather heavy on resources, but at least some of those weird graphic bugs should be fixed now.

city-lights.jpg

Whaaa, It's very Wonderful ! I wait your last version .....

It's already uploaded to STKAddons (should have mentioned that, sorry ), but it has not been approved yet.

Wolfs {l Wrote}:I have just uploaded a new version of the track that features (among other things) a new second path. Its purpose is to give an easier but also longer alternative to the narrow road after the highway.Please give feedback about the new skybox, the performance (which should have improved) and all other things that annoy you. Unfortunately, the track is still rather heavy on resources, but at least some of those weird graphic bugs should be fixed now.

city-lights.jpg

Whaaa, It's very Wonderful ! I wait your last version .....

It's already uploaded to STKAddons (should have mentioned that, sorry ), but it has not been approved yet.

Wolfs {l Wrote}:I have just uploaded a new version of the track that features (among other things) a new second path. Its purpose is to give an easier but also longer alternative to the narrow road after the highway.Please give feedback about the new skybox, the performance (which should have improved) and all other things that annoy you. Unfortunately, the track is still rather heavy on resources, but at least some of those weird graphic bugs should be fixed now.

city-lights.jpg

Looks better but I still don't think you should be using a skybox with skyscrapers in it.

Skybox should just be night sky (stars etc). Put some distant unreachable flat polygons as skyscrapers in the background. /0.02c

charlie {l Wrote}:Looks better but I still don't think you should be using a skybox with skyscrapers in it.

Skybox should just be night sky (stars etc). Put some distant unreachable flat polygons as skyscrapers in the background. /0.02c

Sorry for the late answer, and thanks for your feedback. It is true that the skybox-skyscrapers can look weird, especially when you are driving on the highway. However, I hesitate to add those polygons. In the rendered skybox there are more than 3000 skyscrapers. I do not feel comfortable to add so many more faces to a track which already suffers from performace issues. Additionally, adding just one polygon per skyscraper would look bad for skyscrapers which are not directly in front of the player. There would have to be more faces per skyscraper in this case. But maybe I am wrong here or there is a better solution, I have virtually no knowledge of 3D designing after all .

My suggestion would be to just try it with a few. Make them far enough away so that they are always mostly-facing the player. 3000 is definitely too many - there's no way to see most of them. You could get a nice effect with 2-3 layers of flat polygons and using the same (or several) textures. If you're concerned about some looking flat, you could use 4* polygons for the more significant ones; I'm sure STK could handle 50-60 x 4 polygon distant skyscrapers.

charlie {l Wrote}:My suggestion would be to just try it with a few. Make them far enough away so that they are always mostly-facing the player. 3000 is definitely too many - there's no way to see most of them. You could get a nice effect with 2-3 layers of flat polygons and using the same (or several) textures. If you're concerned about some looking flat, you could use 4* polygons for the more significant ones; I'm sure STK could handle 50-60 x 4 polygon distant skyscrapers.

At the end of the highway, I think, you need to adjust the hard right turn, because, well, I have problems, but the AI drives straight into arrow sign (with a imidiate recovery by the thunderbird mascot). I recorded it, so if you need a video, I could upload one to youtube.

Also I tried to do a video of this track, but it seems that even for my pc the track is too demanding, which results in bad video quality.

ChemBroTron {l Wrote}:At the end of the highway, I think, you need to adjust the hard right turn, because, well, I have problems, but the AI drives straight into arrow sign (with a imidiate recovery by the thunderbird mascot). I recorded it, so if you need a video, I could upload one to youtube.

Thanks for posting this, I noticed that too. Tbh, I do not really know what is the best way to handle this. There used to be a slowdown texture, but I did not like it a lot. On the other hand, it is rather easy to drive along the turn by braking a bit first and then skidding around it. Maybe the AI should be able to do this?

Wolfs {l Wrote}:Thanks for posting this, I noticed that too. Tbh, I do not really know what is the best way to handle this. There used to be a slowdown texture, but I did not like it a lot. On the other hand, it is rather easy to drive along the turn by braking a bit first and then skidding around it. Maybe the AI should be able to do this?

I agree, a slowdown texture for that is not the right solution. I can have a look why the AI is not braking, though it will be a few weeks (with hopefully GSoC coming) before I can get to that. Could you open a ticket?

hiker {l Wrote}:I agree, a slowdown texture for that is not the right solution. I can have a look why the AI is not braking, though it will be a few weeks (with hopefully GSoC coming) before I can get to that. Could you open a ticket?

If #902 is done, then I think it should be implemented in the official game too.

But what about small config players? Maybe there could be a big and a small texture, using old-age-computer settings could make the game choose smaller textures. I think this could be done for other tracks too.

"I do not agree with what you say, but I will fight up to death so that you have the right to say it" - Voltaire

Totoplus62 {l Wrote}:This track is really good but need optimizations and another music this one doesn't really fit

Thanks . I agree with you, the track is really heavy on resources. The problem is that I currently do not really know why that is so. For example city lights has for me roughly 13-28 ktris while driving with one kart and the old tux tollway track at least 40 - 60 ktris. Nevertheless tux tollway runs smoother.

rubberduck {l Wrote}:i think, that the lighting must be a bit better, not so dark and with some colors

The lighting is something I am working on. I am plannig to make the lanterns shine in a slightly yellow light and I want to add lights to the buildings so that the windows shine onto the road. I was actually thinking that the track is too bright in its current state and I was thinking about making it darker , but apparently the brightness is depended on the screen.

rubberduck {l Wrote}:when do you upload the next version for testing or to addonsi can't wait

I'm sorry but this will take some time . As usual I do not have a lot of time to work on the track, and there is also green valley where I am currently experimenting with a lightmap and improving the texture colors to fit the skybox better.