Huh, seems we missed FUD: Fear, uncertainty and doubt. See also: people who scream "you're all going to jail!" based on some BS DOJ memo that has no basis in reality, or just 99% of the weapons laws on the books currently and how they got enough support to be enacted.

CLEO == Chief Law Enforcement Officer, useful for sending a copy of your C&R application to, or issuing a CCW. Usually a County Sheriff or City Chief of Police.

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I've been saying that for years ...

There is no value at all complaining or analyzing or reading tea leaves to decide what these bills really mean or actually do; any bill with a chance to pass will be bad for gun owners.

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Huh, seems we missed FUD: Fear, uncertainty and doubt. See also: people who scream "you're all going to jail!" based on some BS DOJ memo that has no basis in reality, or just 99% of the weapons laws on the books currently and how they got enough support to be enacted.

I thought FUD was ****ed Up Disinformation and pertained to people spreading false information that was otherwise handed down from someone with FUD or by a gun grabbing anti-gunner trying to type cast firearms and their owners as the heartless evil killing machine criminals that the media portays us to be.

I thought FUD was ****ed Up Disinformation and pertained to people spreading false information that was otherwise handed down from someone with FUD or by a gun grabbing anti-gunner trying to type cast firearms and their owners as the heartless evil killing machine criminals that the media portays us to be.

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... perhaps someone could give me the quick answer as to who 'Allison' and 'Iggy' are? Based on context, I assume they work for CA DOJ??

They both work for the DOJ. Allison is kind of out of the picture now (I think she's been reassigned within the DOJ). Iggy is still around.

She's a lawyer with the DOJ and is famous for drafting the letter that said that OLL receivers were OK in California. At the time, she didn't realize that people would get those receivers and build them up into rifles. So we can kind of thank her for this. She's also famous for attempting to evade her duty to assist with PRAR's (public record act request), and for closely working with Brady.

Iggy is a field agent, AFAIK. He's famous for shooting his desk, allegedly lying under oath, and other stuff.

****...acronym for Store High in Transit, just learned that last week during a radio advertisement. Came from the Civil War era when cow pies were stored on ships for fuel. When saltwater came into contact with them, it gave off some type of scent or gas, they bundled the cow pies up and stacked them, marking them in red writing with Store High In Transit (or Transport), eventually them abbreviated the verbiage, hence the acronym ****...

We will happily keep them unimpressed while we exercise our rights and limit their powers concurrently. -Gene

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The DOJ knows that two guys with semi autos that have a folding or collapsable stock, or pistol grip could take out California's entire police force, SWAT, and the National Guard. Jeeze, that pistol grip and stock are really dangerous...