Eh.... you probably could get something kind of close out of the VK, but you'd have to toss the inevitable overdrive pedal, new tubes and speaker at it, and by the time you've done that you're well over the price of the Laney for something which still wouldn't sound as good. I suppose in America it would make a bit more sense to go the VK route but it's still, well, crap.

Eh.... you probably could get something kind of close out of the VK, but you'd have to toss the inevitable overdrive pedal, new tubes and speaker at it, and by the time you've done that you're well over the price of the Laney for something which still wouldn't sound as good. I suppose in America it would make a bit more sense to go the VK route but it's still, well, crap.

But the Laney would have a nicer tone and more gain to start with.With the VK, you'd have to put a lot more effort in, and depending on what you use, may not what you want.

In the US, go for a different amp. Like those B-52 things, or whatever.

The Laney.....hands-down The VK is utter crap compared to the Laney, a lot of noobs recommend it here because it's a tube amp and it can do "metal" and because it's pretty cheap (still overpriced IMO).

^ engl cabs are pretty hi-fi and tight-sounding (the ones i've tried, anyway), if you want warm and bassy i probably wouldn't go with an engl cab.

i haven't tried the gh50L, but based on the other laneys i have tried, i'd have to go with the laney over the VK, assuming you can put up with one channel (plus the boost).

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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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I tried a Laney GH50L through a Marshall 1960 cab, and it kind of lacked chunkyness. Even with bass turned all the way up, it sounded crunchy, but quite thin. I didn't scoop the EQ, in fact, I had a fair bit of midrange (I like me some mids).

When I tried a valveking combo, while it wasn't the fattest amp ever, it was significantly thicker overall, although I had to turn the bass up pretty far.

I tried a Laney GH50L through a Marshall 1960 cab, and it kind of lacked chunkyness. Even with bass turned all the way up, it sounded crunchy, but quite thin. I didn't scoop the EQ, in fact, I had a fair bit of midrange (I like me some mids).

When I tried a valveking combo, while it wasn't the fattest amp ever, it was significantly thicker overall, although I had to turn the bass up pretty far.

Am I doin it rong?

Did you turned on the Resonance switch? My Laney sounds thick as hell and has enough bottom end to shake the walls of my house.

I tried a Laney GH50L through a Marshall 1960 cab, and it kind of lacked chunkyness. Even with bass turned all the way up, it sounded crunchy, but quite thin. I didn't scoop the EQ, in fact, I had a fair bit of midrange (I like me some mids).

When I tried a valveking combo, while it wasn't the fattest amp ever, it was significantly thicker overall, although I had to turn the bass up pretty far.

Am I doin it rong?

They can be pretty thin amps until you spend a bit of time getting to know them, the balance between the two gain controls is a good example. They also need to be pretty damn loud to start thickening out.

The VK I tried sounded like mud at every possible setting, including some ridiculous extremes that would slay your ears on other amps.

I'm right about the others being really bassy though? The Orange sure is, but I'm only making assumptions with regards to the MESA and the Diezel

no worries. i think you're right about the others, but i'm far from certain. i wouldn't like to say, to be honest, just in case i'm wrong.

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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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Lots of VK haters. Very pleased with my VK100 W Half-Stack. The price was awesome. $550 off Craigslist. Maybe without any pedals it wouldn't be great for everyone, but I have a Boss DS-1 and a PODx3. Either route I go, this amp gives me every bit of what I'm looking for.

Lots of VK haters. Very pleased with my VK100 W Half-Stack. The price was awesome. $550 off Craigslist. Maybe without any pedals it wouldn't be great for everyone, but I have a Boss DS-1 and a PODx3. Either route I go, this amp gives me every bit of what I'm looking for.

You don't have to be a VK hater to know that a GH50L absolutely slays a VK.

yeah, in many threads i actually recommend the VK. but if you can get a laney for the same price (and as i said, i'm only judging by the other laneys i've tried), it doesn't make much sense to go with the VK...

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It's really no contest. Laney hands down. I really wish people would stop recommending the Valveking for metal. It can't do metal very well at all. Yes, it's cheap. But it really isn't worth buying the Tube Overdrive pedal and replacing the speakers in the hope of finding an awesome metal tone, it just doesn't have enough gain.

It's really no contest. Laney hands down. I really wish people would stop recommending the Valveking for metal. It can't do metal very well at all. Yes, it's cheap. But it really isn't worth buying the Tube Overdrive pedal and replacing the speakers in the hope of finding an awesome metal tone, it just doesn't have enough gain.

What the hell are you on? The VK has TOO MUCH gain for it's own good. It's just that anything past 8 on the preamp gain gets a bit muddy.It can do metal with a new speaker, but then again, it's dependent on what your definition of metal is and what sound you are going for.

what is with the VK bashing? I don't consider my self a noob and I enjoy my VK. you should have more than a 10min test at guitar centre with a half-arsed attempt at eq'ing and then judge it.

It's backlash from the Valveking bandwagon of about six or seven months ago where every amp thread was answered with "get a Valveking". Now you have the anti-Valveking bandwagon and the Valveking thread garrison who attempt to hold the fort down.

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what is with the VK bashing? I don't consider my self a noob and I enjoy my VK. you should have more than a 10min test at guitar centre with a half-arsed attempt at eq'ing and then judge it.

Excuse me? I owned the bloody thing. I was told by all the lovely folks here to buy a Valveking with a Bad Monkey to get a great metal sound, I did, and after persevering with the thing for months I gave up, no matter what I did it sounded like mud. It's true, the OD made it sound better, but it is in no way a 'metal' amp.

I'm sure it suits you guys and your rock music but I considered it a waste of £350. Now I have a much cheaper amp with more gain and better tone and I couldn't be happier with it. If you thing the Valveking can do metal then I'd like to hear what you like to call metal. The only reason that thing sells is because it's all tube and it's cheap.

Just accept that it's not for everyone. You may be well and happy with it but just remember not everyone else will.

Excuse me? I owned the bloody thing. I was told by all the lovely folks here to buy a Valveking with a Bad Monkey to get a great metal sound, I did, and after persevering with the thing for months I gave up, no matter what I did it sounded like mud. It's true, the OD made it sound better, but it is in no way a 'metal' amp.

I'm sure it suits you guys and your rock music but I considered it a waste of £350. Now I have a much cheaper amp with more gain and better tone and I couldn't be happier with it. If you thing the Valveking can do metal then I'd like to hear what you like to call metal. The only reason that thing sells is because it's all tube and it's cheap.

Just accept that it's not for everyone. You may be well and happy with it but just remember not everyone else will.