Plus...yes, let's hire a brand-new fitness trainer while Petra is trying to get back on track from illness + weird scheduling during the offseason. Because that'll go over well. Few weeks without tennis and then a totally different trainer, 3 matches and then the Australian Open. Sigh.

ETA: I think someone said a while ago that the main problem here is that a top player should win matches (in part) because of her team...not in spite of them. I'm not saying that Petra and her serve () are not responsible for crashing out to Hypson or Domi or Pavs, but still.

Maybe we all did at some point Phobia.

I know I did, in many different variations.

I had actually said recently (if I remember correctly), "If Petra wins in the future, she will win because she got hot and confident, and not because of anything thing her team did'.

And Petra recently said to the BBC, 'My serve was the worst ever', when she lost to Robson at the Australian Open. Oh Really!!

How/Why!? What were they doing!? You had a month and a half (in theory) to train and prepare for the new season, and you come out horrible, especially after a not so great end to 2012 (of course we know her Fed Cup, Czech Extraliga and Exo events cut into that rest and preparation time).

But still. Where's the pride??

Jan 22nd, 2013 06:11 PM

netphobia

Re: 2013 Australian Open - Stuck in the mud

Plus...yes, let's hire a brand-new fitness trainer while Petra is trying to get back on track from illness + weird scheduling during the offseason. Because that'll go over well. Few weeks without tennis and then a totally different trainer, 3 matches and then the Australian Open. Sigh.

ETA: I think someone said a while ago that the main problem here is that a top player should win matches (in part) because of her team...not in spite of them. I'm not saying that Petra and her serve () are not responsible for crashing out to Hypson or Domi or Pavs, but still.

Well,Paul,this is definitely an appropriate thread title,but Petra claims that she's going to play Paris Indoor,whose MD starts next Monday.I'm sure that Petra's team will plan her flight so that she arrives about 15 minutes before her 1st match but,regardless,we should find a way to extract Petra from the mud so that she can free herself,physically speaking,and board the plane,don't you think?

Please Bruce. I don't want to get mad.

It makes me think about the part of the article, when the reporter asked Kotyza, about 'changing the training regimen--that's not working-- with the new fitness guy'. And I'm thinking to myself, "How the hell did you fire Ivanko during the middle of the year; announce a search, then take months to come up with the current guy--who we knew would be nothing to write home about in the first place"!!?

Geesh-uz!! It's truly all on Petra.

Jan 22nd, 2013 04:23 PM

bruce goose

Re: 2013 Australian Open - Stuck in the mud

Well,Paul,this is definitely an appropriate thread title,but Petra claims that she's going to play Paris Indoor,whose MD starts next Monday.I'm sure that Petra's team will plan her flight so that she arrives about 15 minutes before her 1st match but,regardless,we should find a way to extract Petra from the mud so that she can free herself,physically speaking,and board the plane,don't you think?

I was just sad when I read Sloane Stephens' "little kids go home first week" comment I know she meant it lightly, but the combination of that quote and Petra's name next to it GM was a bit

I know exactly how you feel Nettie/Phobia (which one do you like)!?

I didn't view the Sloane quote myself (though I read/heard about it, and the TF/GM OP's Petra connotation).

Nonetheless, I felt exactly the same way, when I read about the potential 4 Grand Slam Winners making the semi's, sans our beloved, very talented, but under achieving, "Little Girl" Petra.

Jan 22nd, 2013 03:42 PM

netphobia

Re: 2013 Australian Open - Stuck in the mud

I was just sad when I read Sloane Stephens' "little kids go home first week" comment I know she meant it lightly, but the combination of that quote and Petra's name next to it GM was a bit

Jan 22nd, 2013 03:40 PM

Excelscior

Re: 2013 Australian Open - Stuck in the mud

I don't know about you guys. But I'm quite envious (no, not really. But you know what I mean, LOL) to read on GM, that 4 Grand Slam Winners may make a Slam semi's for the first time in 7 years--if Serena beats Sloane, and Petra's not one of them.

Our Petra should be a part of the festivities.....And I feel so left out as a fan.

Bawl!!!!!!!!!!!

Jan 21st, 2013 05:49 AM

bruce goose

Re: Petra shot down by Laura in Melbourne

This might not mean that much to most of you,but a QB showed some resolve today for the first time in a huge playoff game(he offered a foretaste the previous week),and he outdid one of the legends of the sport in leading his team to the Super Bowl.He had a history of some of the most pathetic mental errors and,unlike Petra,he had never won any major championships to suggest that his F-ups weren't his destiny(he'd won division titles;however,there are EIGHT different geographical divisions,so that's not as impressive as it sounds).

There's no evidence that he's seen a sports counsellor or anything;apparently,he just reached down within himself and found the courage to fight.I'm offering encouragement here in that,if a habitual big-game screwup found a way to be strong,then Petra should have every reason to believe in herself,deep down,and make herself stronger,too

Let me say first off that I may have used overly strong language towards you,and for THAT,specifically,I apologize.There was a death in the family a couple days ago so maybe that's nagging at me a bit...and maybe I should avoid the subforum for a bit to keep from hurting your feelings.

Quite frankly,I have no respect at all for your stab at logic;to hear YOU tell it,I should call the benefactor who funded the firehouse--and not the fire department--if my house went ablaze.Yeah,Cermosek built some facilities,great,but you haven't shown me ANY evidence on how he advised Hingis on training methods,coached her or did jack shit to claim credit for her Slam titles.If you're suggesting that Martina couldn't have found some OTHER courts to train on...and that she would've been some ITF player had Cermosek not built those facilities,well.....maybe you've been stealing from Moose's mushroom supply.

On the contrary,why in the heck should neutral,non-Czechs believe that the big shot did ANYthing major for Hingis when we see how amateurishly he's treated Petra??That is: No male hitting partner;Huggy Bear coach instead of a seasoned,respected professional;asinine scheduling of events;ludicrous treatment of Petra's asthma and other health problems.......we could continue,but let's look at how Petra was SUCH a late bloomer,is still raw in several respects,and puzzlingly lacks confidence.....It doesn't seem as if all those years at the CCC helped her that much,does it??If anything,it looks like Petra succeeded IN SPITE OF your favorite Czech mafia stooge and NOT because of him.

If you think that the word 'clown' is so harsh and unbearable,then you may have had a very sheltered life.Perhaps the Old Ladies' Mah Jongg Forum would suit you better than TF.You'd have a heckuva time coping in Mexico,where bastard,sewer-dwelling narcos will shoot a 3-year-old girl just because her mommy works in the Justice Department.To ME,using the word 'clown' to describe Petra's manager doesn't sound so universe-shaking when he's arrogantly boasted of his control over her while undermining such a rare talent and sweet gal.You/he should be happy that I didn't use a word that was much WORSE....and it's phony b.s. for you to gripe at ME when Ex has used equally-strong language(and justifiably so).....I'm done with that!

Sorry, my time is too precious for engaging in these arguments. Let's just say we agree to disagree.

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