The Affordable Care Act is likely to make Conservatives look really out of touch, delusional and straight out fraudulent...

You have zero hand in crafting or passing it, you made up stories and talking points that are absurdly false and hurt your own constituents, you challenged it on legal grounds at the highest court and lost, you made it a centerpiece of a POTUS run and lost, you essential forced a shutdown of the Government and it looks from polling you have lost let alone zero concessions...

Where are the reasonable Republicans who will step up and help make this thing a success, rather than trying to torpedo it for the next 5 years?

You want reasonable republicans? Look at jetmeck how is that reasonable? his hate soaked tirades I don't even bother to read... why? Because He's extremely disrespectful(good thing its the internet.) And to be honest his posts make little sense. So why don't you police your own. Its people like him that break down any sort of progress.

Wow, I think I would get a part time job flipping burgers, washing cars or mowing laws if my wife needed $200 bucks for a mammogram ............ but I understand, money is tight and we all have our priorities. Can't have a part time job and still have time to spout hate on the internet.

You want reasonable republicans? Look at jetmeck how is that reasonable? his hate soaked tirades I don't even bother to read... why? Because He's extremely disrespectful(good thing its the internet.) And to be honest his posts make little sense. So why don't you police your own. Its people like him that break down any sort of progress.

Nice job of deflecting form answering the question......yes good thing its the internet..................

Don't change the subject again just answer why you think its good to take away heathcare ?

Wow, I think I would get a part time job flipping burgers, washing cars or mowing laws if my wife needed $200 bucks for a mammogram ............ but I understand, money is tight and we all have our priorities. Can't have a part time job and still have time to spout hate on the internet.

Heh you , think about it.

A lot of people don't even have ANY INSURANCE and thats the point.

Without insurance it would be over a grand..........

You guys want civility ? Quit answering this way when you know

your just twisting things around................

Just so you understand this was her first mammogram.........ever.

Of course if anyone knew there was any issue we would not hesistate.

This was a WELLNESS exam.........

Don't try to top twist this onto me.

You guys want others with no insurance to pay big bucks for this and most won't and many would die.

I've never said people should be without insurance but leave the current system alone for the people that are happy with what they have.

Issue all others including pre-existing conditions a Medicare card with a monthly premium that corresponds to their income or ability to pay.

Good for you to even say that about not taking away insurance.

Problem is Fox news has you believing you will have to change insurance....completely false.

If you have insurance you can keep it, thats in the law.

If you guys would just check your info it would help a lot.

Congress as of right now will have to change their insurance which is prob high as hell..............because of Repub. Sen. Grassley added an amendment that forces congress to enter the pool like people who don't have insurance through work...........

Sen. Grassley was trying to get a few more congressan to vote no on OBAMACRE in 2010..........so this exemption they speak of is by there own hand.

Wednesday's Wall Street Journal provides the perfect encapsulation of the conservative crusade against the Affordable Care Act. On the opinion pages, columnist James Taranto mocked the story of new Obamacare enrollee Brendan Mahoney. But where news is actually reported, the WSJ's Arian Campo-Flores explained, "Why Kentucky's Health Exchange Worked Better Than Many Others." But the Bluegrass State didn't just provide a relatively smooth first-day enrollment experience. As it turns out, one of the only reliably red states to both establish its own health care exchange and accept the expansion of Medicaid to low income residents, Kentucky is already proving Republican critics of Obamacare wrong.

Those critics include Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul, Kentucky's Republican senators who were caught on a live microphone in Washington admitting their real motives is shutting down the government over the implementation of the Affordable Care Act. But back home, things are going pretty well for Kentucky's uninsured seeking to obtain coverage at Kentucky's Kynect exchange:

While Kentucky's health-insurance exchange experienced some glitches when it launched Tuesday, it seemed to perform better than many of its peers.
State officials and outside experts attribute the smoother rollout to a variety of factors, including intensive testing of the system, a less-flashy but more-efficient website and strong coordination among state agencies involved in the effort.
As a result, Kentucky's exchange, dubbed Kynect, logged solid results in the first day and a half of operation. As of 4:00 p.m. Wednesday, 10,766 applications for health coverage had been initiated, 6,909 had been completed and 2,989 individuals or families had enrolled in new coverage.

As the Journal suggested, Kentucky's success may be in large part to the experience of state agencies working closely together on other health care systems in the recent past, including a prescription-drug monitoring database. But the biggest factor of all is Democratic Gov. Steve Beshear, who early on opted to have Kentucky run its own health care marketplace and accept billions of dollars of essentially free money from the federal government in order to expand Medicaid to cover 308,000 lower income working residents. In a recent New York Times op-ed, Gov. Beshear explained below why "My State Needs Obamacare. Now": .

You can't keep the insurance if the provider changes the options of the policy. I carry a private policy for my wife and we have already received several letters detailing their up coming changes that will take effect to her policy in 2014. They want us to schedule an appointment to go over the policy and to add additional coverage that will be removed from the standard policy.

Her policy has not changed in 15 years except for the premiums , so do you think this is just a coincidence?

She told them she would like to keep what she has and was told that's not an option.

THE FACTS: Obama said “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.” It was an empty promise, made repeatedly. .

Nothing in the health care law guarantees that people can keep the health insurance they already have. Costs can rise, benefits can change and employers can drop coverage.

Insurance policies that are offered must now meet minimum standards, covering more preventive services but that doesn’t mean the status quo goes on for those who like what they’ve got now.

You can't keep the insurance if the provider changes the options of the policy. I carry a private policy for my wife and we have already received several letters detailing their up coming changes that will take effect to her policy in 2014. They want us to schedule an appointment to go over the policy and to add additional coverage that will be removed from the standard policy.

Her policy has not changed in 15 years except for the premiums , so do you think this is just a coincidence?

She told them she would like to keep what she has and was told that's not an option.

THE FACTS: Obama said “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.” It was an empty promise, made repeatedly. .

Nothing in the health care law guarantees that people can keep the health insurance they already have. Costs can rise, benefits can change and employers can drop coverage.
Insurance policies that are offered must now meet minimum standards, covering more preventive services but that doesn’t mean the status quo goes on for those who like what they’ve got now.

Mincing words again. Obama said that you could keep your insurance if you like. He did not mean that he had control over the insurance companies. Insurance companies change their plans and premiums all the time. isn't that what you love about capitalism?

Not necessarily the right thread but don't feel like starting a new one so just randomly posting this here...

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Hospitals don’t have poverty wards; if a patient comes in the door in bad shape, they don’t do a wallet biopsy before deciding what care that person should receive—everyone at a hospital receives the same quality. But if a community has a higher number of uninsured, that means the latest and greatest technology and treatments will drive up the amounts of unreimbursed care. In essence, hospitals that provide the best, most modern, and most expensive treatments in an area with lots of uninsured will be forced to pass unsustainable amounts of cost to their prices. Insurance companies won’t pay it, local governments won’t finance it, and the hospitals will go out of business.

The only option then? Don’t provide the top-quality care to anyone—insured or not. That keeps the cost of uncompensated care down and lets the hospital stay in business.

This is not something I have just dreamed up. Repeated studies over the past decade have showed a consistent relationship between the number of uninsured in an area and the quality of care available for all residents there.

Not necessarily the right thread but don't feel like starting a new one so just randomly posting this here...

Hospitals don’t have poverty wards; if a patient comes in the door in bad shape, they don’t do a wallet biopsy before deciding what care that person should receive—everyone at a hospital receives the same quality.

I have a friend that just got back from MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, TX for prostrate cancer treatment and believe me they did a complete wallet biopsy on him before arrived.

This is a startlingly naive view of health care. The real costs don't come from emergency visits. They come from long-term treatments and therapies (Like PonyBoy's talking about). Which is when and where personal means get tested.

And 'uncompensated care' is an issue. But it's not THE issue. As I've said before, the feds could simply cut checks to providers for all uncompensated care, and save probably 75% of what Obamacare is going to cost.

I liked the closing paragraph:I don’t expect to persuade the people who really believe all the malarkey about death panels and socialism. They have been lied to for so long that I think it will take years before they will be able to understand how badly they have been used. But, hopefully, there are those who want to know why Obamacare exists and what the point of it is. And when you know the truth, you will understand that—for all of its imperfections—Obamacare is an essential step toward healing the deeply sick American health-care system.

I suppose you can think of ACA as just a step in a process. But it still supports the idea that health care is a commodity to be bought and sold in the marketplace. That's the idea that I don't agree with.