About one dozen families who recently immigrated to Canada are demanding that the Louis Riel School Division in Winnipeg excuse their children from music and coed physical education programs for religious reasons.

The families believe that music is un-Islamic – just like the Taliban believe and then imposed on the entire population of Afghanistan – and that physical education classes should be segregated by gender even in the elementary years….

In any event, the school district is trying to find a way to adapt the curriculum to fit the wishes of these families, rather than these families adapting to fit into the school and Canadian culture.

Mahfooz Kanwar, a member of the Muslim Canadian Congress, says he has some better ideas.

“I’d tell them, this is Canada, and in Canada, we teach music and physical education in our schools. If you don’t like it, leave. If you want to live under sharia law, go back to the hellhole country you came from or go to another hellhole country that lives under sharia law,” said Kanwar, who is a professor emeritus of sociology at Mount Royal University in Calgary.

That might be putting things a little more forcefully than most of us would be comfortable with, but Kanwar says he is tired of hearing about such out-of-tune demands from newcomers to our country. “Immigrants to Canada should adjust to Canada, not the other way around,” he argues….

@NancyThat’s an interesting description you have of people who may not think exactly as you do, Nancy. I’m assuming you may be a fundamentalist Christian? “Secular scum in the west” describes everyone who may not believe what you do. Try reading the bible cover to cover and you may be surprised at what’s in it. I know a lot of people who have done this and are now atheists. For a fundy, atheism is a real problem, similar to the one you display.

living in a muslim co-op and it is a hell hole!I live in a housing co-operative that had a hostile take over by a Muslim faction. If people do not want to live in a Muslim hell hole they must be aware of our situation. Be forewarned it can happen to you. Our co-op was a lovely place to live and was a mixture of nationalities. Until the Muslim faction moved in and began to literally take over our little co-op. They had big families and thus were able to out vote anybody else’s point of view. In fact they refused to take part in any co-op activity unless we purchased Halal food for them and they only offered to be members of a board that held power. Such as the board of directors and the membership committee. They only allowed other Muslim’s on these boards. The discrimination was horrific and blatant. I can only imagine what would happen to us if Sharia Law were voted into existence here in Canada. We would definitely be at risk of abuse in a two tiered society. I have never been abused and traumatized like these people have demonstrated to me for no other reason other than I am a white Christian and use service dogs. None of that is a crime now but wait until Sharia Law is instated and there is no consequence to them for doing things to non-Muslims. Take note and beware!

Nancy, whatever your spiritual beliefs, the “secular scum” are a drop in the bucket of threats to the values and lives of what comprises any aspects of what has made “western”‘culture the pre-eminent culture vs. what would come under sharia and revert every gain in virtually any category. Go as a woman and live under strong sharia/islam and see if you still feel the same way. For that matter go as a man and see what it does to your liberty, rights, opportunities. Under these types of laws and people the word we in the west use so much “freedom”, doesn’t even mean anything close to how we sling it around – for them freedom is being the perfect muslim, following what you are told to believe and gaining the “freedom” that only those in perfect sync with islam can know. Basically, it means drinking the kool-aid and achieving “freedom” a la The followers of Jim Jones – and look where that “freedom” got them. Alternatively, under current western systems, people have the right to be and speak ignorantly – under sharia you would just be ignorant.

Canada is a melting pot of many nations.Chinese, Italian, French, Vietnamese, etc. All come here and blend in very well.However these Muslims are too much. It is not for us to comply to their wishes and the Sharia law.They can worship and dress according to their wishes in their homes and in their mosques only.No burka, no veil and no praying carpet in the middle of the street like they did in England to mobilized a whole sector of the city.No praying carpet anywhere beside their homes or mosques.

Canada is one of the best country to live in. It is a privilege for them to immigrate here. And we are blessed to have separation of state and religion.Either they conform to our standards or they get the hell out of here.I do not need any Muslim to shove down their religion down my throat or in public and give them an inch in trying to convert me which is always in the back burner of their mind.

Oppressing women and children with middle east Muslim culture is not one of our Canadian values.Children need gym and need to be free and not to be indoctrinated.If Muslims parents can’t live with our social and religious standards please go back to your oppressive countries which you tried to escape in the first place

Ticahn wrote wonderfully I fully agree with Ticahn and can’t believe somebody could write every word which I have in my mind. I salute you Ticahn and pray that may the muslims understand how to peacefully become a part of our great country Canada. If not, then please leave us and let us live with great harmony.

How steryotypical are you?I can not believe how steryotypical and raciest that comment you wrote is. I am a muslim. I live in Canada. We muslims are trying to convay people to respect our beliefs just as they want us to respect theres. I will agree that physical education is important, but that does not mean you can go around blurting out raciest remarks of the muslim religion. I walk around the streets, go to school, have white, black, asian, and spanish friends. All that while having a “scarf” on my head. Just to let you know it’s called a Hijab. Canada is a free country and you telling us to leave is unexceptable. We dress according to how God wanted us to dress. We pray because God told us too. If we want to take out a praying carpet in the middle of the street and pray that is completely up to us and our freedom rights. We do it so God will be pleased with us. Not to send any message to the Canadian people. If you wish to go around getting drunk, and having not even a thought about what God will want, or what will happen in the after life that is your problem. Whether you like it or not Muslims will be in Canada, and our voices will be heard. We know what the right way in life is, and if you wish to come along on our path your more than welcomed. All I am saying is that you should think about what you are going to say about a persons religion before opening your mouth.

How stereotypical are you Nadoo!I am frequently appalled by the arrogance of Muslims the world over. You say you “dress according to how God wanted us to dress”. This obviously implies that we in western society do not conform to God’s wishes. You say “We know what the right way in life is”; this certainly suggests that we do not know the right path in life and if this is not a clear indictment against everyone else in the world who does not follow the Muslim faith then what else could it mean?

But then again, it is not just the “infidels” of non-muslim faiths that are living so unpurely; are there not many different faiths within the Muslim populations of the world? One group often condemning another such as the Shiite vs. the Sunni faith. Many conflicts in the Muslim world are often blamed on Western society but it seems to me that western interference notwithstanding, there will never be harmony between the Muslim societies of the world because of this incredibly arrogant belief each group or faction holds that they are so right and the other so wrong!

Finally, you speak of your freedom and rights in Canadian society; these same freedoms and rights are the mark of western societies. Such freedoms and rights are sorely lacking in so many of your own countries. This is very likely one of the main reasons so many Muslims are coming to live in western countries. In Canada, immigrants of various stripes are welcomed, supported and offered tremendous opportunities for a stable and happy future. Yet so many of you seem, rather than being grateful to your fellow Canadians, determined to change this society to suit yourselves. You tell us that we don’t know how to live life properly; you criticize common practices such as going out for a drink, or not dressing as modestly as Muslims do. Freedom and respect work both ways, Nadoo. You owe us respect for our beliefs and culture as well. To paraphrase your closing remarks: You should think about what you are going to say before you condemn the same people who have made it possible for you and so many other immigrants to have a better life for themselves than they could possible have in their own countries/cultures.

FunnyYes absolutely gail..you should be grateful and count your blessings for living in this country ..coz from the last time i remembered, the natives had welcomed your great ancestors in this country.. and you guys pushed them into tiny reserves while enjoying the pleasures of this countries natural resources, while subjugating the native americans and forcing them to live in remote areas where you wont even have to feel their pain. If anyone has an issue with any immigrants, whether it be muslims, jews, arabs, eastern europeans, should just pack their bags and go back to where they or their ancestors came from

My myymamma you watch too many cowboys movies. The natives got on well with our ancestors and mine started the fur trade with the natives so we are the very first canadians of which I am very proud. The natives who were killed etc were in the usa when the north won the civil wr and wanted to build big cities. Its also important to note that canada never had slavery it was only in the usa. However I heard today that s audi arabia has slaves and they hired a woman from kenya and sent her to work as a slave for a rich saudi family at 265 dollars a month with 18 hour shifts and no breaks. Its also interesting to note that the wetern coutries who have the best l aws and working conditions also happen to be started by WHITE PEOPLE. The most racist and worst working conditions in the world are not in western nations they are in asia, africa and the middle east. Oh by the way I wont pack my bags because this is my country and has been for 400 years I am the real canadian. You were not even invited here by the white woman and if u want the truth some of my friends are na tives and they dont want you here either!

i am from a muslim backgroundwell said Mark, i came from a muslim country to live in freedom….i thank the canadian people for hosting me , i owe canada a lot…..if i wish to live as i use to live in my previous muslim country, so why the hell i immigrate in the first place?….This supremacist muslim called Nadoo and many like her are not in Canada to integrate or to be part of this great country…they came to Canada for their hidden agenda….and their hidden agenda is very obvious in the way she speak: islamisation of the Society…..she claims she has rights in Canada, but neglect completely her obligation and duty to conform into the canadian family…she asks other people to respect her belief while she respect no one ….if you take a look in her scared islamic texts you will find many verses and textes that describe non-muslims as uncleans, and worst than animals….and a lot more of hate and war incitements…i came from a muslim background and this supremacist muslim called Nadoo and people like her can’t call me: racist or islamophobe…because i came from the same background as her.

Thanks for speaking out MaggyYour comments are appreciated much Maggy especially since you have a real firsthand perspective. I sincerely believe that if immigrants don’t embrace their adoptive country; make a real effort to become a part of their new society and above all respect the values and traditions that are fundamental to the host people who are opening their doors and hearts to newcomers then multiculturalism simply cannot work. Worse, there will only be racial conflict, resentment, anger and very possibly much worse things that I’d rather just allude to here.

This is Canada, a land where personal and religious freedom, peace, equality, tolerance and fairness are among our highest values. We live in a very modern, stable and secure nation and enjoy a very high standard of living. Newcomers share in all of the benefits that Canada has to offer such as free health care; free education through high school; financial support for post-secondary studies; assistance for low income earners; real opportunities for personal growth and development and the list goes on.

Indeed, so much is offered to immigrants that they should regard coming to live in Canada as the tremendous privilege that it is instead of thinking only of their own customs, beliefs and traditions and proclaiming that they have the right to practice them as they please; or to quote Nadoo: “If we want to take out a praying carpet in the middle of the street and pray that is completely up to us and our freedom rights”. Well Nadoo and others who think like you, I believe the Canadian people would beg to differ!

jordanCanada is prob in the top 3 awesomest , caring , free nations in the world . They were in 2 world wars and fought against tyranny , even if they didn’t need to.I have 3 great great uncles who died in ww1 , all brothers ,who’s dad was my ancestors brother…so my family respect n love Canada .How dare people given the GIFT to live in Canada , insult that nation and expect them to bend over backwaqrds for their dumb primitive beliefs . Simple fact…if they do not like Canadas culture and laws…go home…absolute nerve of these asylum seekers to dictate to a nation who offers them a awesome life and future.Dammit I am so sick of certain peoples .

culturesListen upthis is our country, we invited you here to experience a greatr and happier life,due to our great and sympatic culture. You agreed to our way of life when u camehere.Dont think we will accept a muslim disrupting our streeet traffic just so u can pray to a fictitious gawd. Until you overpower us in breeding apes children and actually vote us out, shut up and accept and respect our culture also

nadooNadoo..what westerner’s are concerned about is the oppression and barbaric practices Islam endorses.It is a recognized fact that in muslim countries ‘unbeleiver’s’ are overwhelmed with injustices and cruelity.As one muslim scholar stated ‘we don’t make a distinction between civilain’s and non-civilan’s. Only between muslim’s and unbeleiver’s . And the life of the unbeleiver has no value.’ The barbaric practices that arise out of Islam is tragic and evil.I speak of the hatred taught to islamic children..the barbaric practice of gential mutation on little girl’s..honour killing’s.girl’s raped and then killed because her rape ‘dishonour’s. family..the abuse of women.the endosement of sex with animal’s.and little boy’s.(it’s in the Koran) If you were to follow mohammad you would steal..kill..maim.rape.beat..make slaves out of prisioner’s.cut off hand’s and feet and tongues.lie.commit incest.show no mercy.hate.show no tolerance.condemn.indoctrinate.and then teach that a HOLY GOD is pleased with you? I can think of no other religion so bleak and so degraded. You are calling evil good.

pray on a roofyour allowed to pray nadoo just not in the street, if u want to pray than pray in your house. why must you disrupt society by praying in the middle of society? do u think this rape, sex, torture and killing harmles people and feared and harmless children, do u think this is ok in your own personl beliefs?

I am not Islamic or of the belief that anybody has the right to practice their religious belief over another person s values or for their own social reasoning. I have for some time been held captive in some kind of disgruntled discriminatory war or belief or random thought or belief, of anybody outside of self. Most of it was yes, some kind of psycho babble or psychiatry and the other 9/10s of the belief was consumer related and/or bible or inflicted or forced values in society. I had no reason to believe in the demand in the market place of course for elated psychological hammering which is what I experienced by drug consumer ed.s that wanted the world to work for them in society and few others, and I also went through a set back and some kind of grab by others to consume every bit of power I had. And, no it would not happen again, or would their socioeconomic gift pack, applying to others, stranger s outside of self inflicted denial and belief.

fed up of having to accomodatefirstly i say to all canadians,don’t be dictated to by any other culture.if people wish to live in your country then first and foremost they should adopt and adapt to canadian culture and values not the other way around.secondly i am from england and far from wishing to mix with the general populas most muslims have enclaves of families and don’t want to intergrate with the rest of british society,which causes raciial tensions.thirdly if most muslims were happy with islam and their original country of origin,why are they then leaving these country and trying then to dictate to the countries they then settle in?from what i see hear the proffessor who originally commented hear has the right attitude,he is probably still proud to be a muslim but is also very proud to be canadian and does not wish to ram down other peoples throats the muslim way,i take my hat off to this guy and wish him well all though others reading it would in another country who do not have so much freedom would persecute him for his statement,finally i say to anyody wishing to settle in another country,wherever that may be,intergrate whilst still holding your values but still respect the values of your adopted country first and foremost,britains a mess,dont allow yourselves to get like us

“A man’s ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.” Albert Einstein

Muslims will be forced out of the Western world. The people never wanted you here and your nations of origin are garbage because your people live there.You cause trouble verywhere. Make no mistake WE WILL REMOVE YOU.

CANADA IS TOO GOOD FOR YOU!Spending 2 years in Afghanistan, ive seen many young peoplewanting to leave Afghanistan and go to a country where they can be free. If you want to immigrate to our Home CANADA because you cant deal with ur own countries problems then u need to leave UR COUNTRIES PROBLEMS IN UR COUNTRY! Im sick of seeing this crap about trying to get Sharia law in Canada! Sharia law can stay in the middle east where it belongs!! U wanna talk bout Canada being a Free country, fine lets talk!! In canada woman, children men have all equal rights, we are taught not to segragate.. Sharia law lets you rape your wife, beat ur wife, Children if they arnt obeying the “Man” how is bringing this sh*t into Canada, make canada a free country?? U want to live by Sharia law, dont do it in our Country, go back to ur sh*t hole country where this BACKWARDS BEHAVIOUR IS ALLOWED!!! Dont preach how drinking is bad, we are free people, u dont like it , U DONT DESERVE TO LIVE IN SUCH A GREAT COUNTRY AS CANADA..U EXTREME MUSLIMS ARE ALL BRAINWASHED….U SHOULDNT BE ALLOWED TO LEAVE UR COUNTRY BECAUSE U CANT FIX IT AND MOVE TO OURS AND TRY AND MAKE IT LIKE UR COUNTRY…ITS BULLsh*t AND IM TIRED OF LISTENING TO THIS CRAP….Did u read the article how a man brought his family over from Afghanistan in 2008, with his 2 wifes, 2 sons, and 2 daughters..beat his wifes then killed his 2 girls with the help of his sons because they were becoming “westernized” and had secret boyfriends!! DONT BRING UR sh*t TO OUR COUNTRY! OR GET THE HELL OUT…. Canada should grow some balls and start deporting ppl who are pushing their laws, religions on us!U should be grateful to live in Canada!! I know lots of young Afghan kids who would love to be there and not try to change a damn thing, cuz THEY WOULD BE GRATEFUL TO BE FREE AND MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES….

i left islamDear Nadoo…My family, friends and I LEFT Islam because of the way so many Muslims are pushing their beliefs on society and wanting to change to sharia law or interfering in the lives of others by praying in the streets, covering faces which is not safe for the rest of us, we need to be able to identify people and because Islam teaches they are the only real faith. The west welcomes Muslims but Muslim countries are not so welcoming to non Muslims, in fact they oppress or hurt them. We dont want to be a part of such a hateful religion and Muslims are waking up. If Muslims cant speak out against al qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood. Hamas , Hizbollah and others like them, then in fact they appear to support them or are indifferent to them or they fear them and then complain when the other countries do something to stop their terrorism. Until you weed out your terrorists and interfere in noraml laws and living of other countries there will be more of them not wanting to allow immigration of Muslims. Truthfully, I think this is best way for Muslims to stay where they are in Muslim countries, because Islam is a culture and a way of life not just a religion(even Muslims say this), thus your laws and beliefs do not fit in other countries who think everyone is equal and where everyone else obeys the laws of the country. If you leave Islam you are punished, families murder their own, Islam using taqiyya(lies to obtain what you need in Islam), so how can anyone trust many Muslims? I care about you as a person, but I dont believe this religion accepts others, so I dont think others should accept it in democratic countries. People around the world need to be kind to Muslims but I think they should reduce the percentage they allow in because in truth, why take a chance on a religion which shows violence in its teachings?

Hey anonymous Like the rest of the world we know what Maryam is conveying. You are trying to make a mockery of a frivolous thing. Read the writings with an intelligent mind. Interpret Infidel: it is a Roman Catholic word identifying a non-believer of the Catholic faith and is now identifying a non-believer of the faith you are in so you’re an infidel to. There is no one religion which has the right to kill another as in Egypt. How many Christians were killed today under the hand of the brotherhood applying sharia law? The termination of life is GODS work He created us only He can terminate us. Those people are not GOD.

f**k offnadoo ur talking sh*t Muslims are scum of earth god does not talk to u u idiot oh I forgot he talks thru a book to u hahahah get a life u only get one and if u want to waste it kissing carpets u dirty bastards then do it in ur sh*t paki country which u obviously can’t live in because it’s to strict for u u piece of sh*t

If you want people to respect your beliefs and religion maybe you should respect the country you are living in. Why if Islam is so great are you here in a country that you seem to despise? You talk about your right way of living if that is the case why is the Middle East so screwed up? In Canada you have the right to practise your religion freely as many other immigrants do.The problem is when you want the culture and laws here to conform to you maybe you should go home and practise your free speech.Whoops I forgot you don’t have that right over there!

Seems like you have the wrong idea nadooWhat makes you think Canada owes you anything?You’re not entitled to special treatment to suit your needs. You have no right to pray in the middle of the street, and hold up traffic. You have no right to make someone even a minute late for work, because of your needs.No one in the public schools has to impose upon children and teachers, a curriculum based on your religious beliefs. That’s just stupid. Nobody has to do anything for you, or bend for you in any way.I don’t even believe you have the friends you claim to have, because there would be no reason to befriend someone who thinks that you dress wrong, eat the wrong food, drink the wrong drinks, believe the wrong beliefs. You are free to believe what you want in Canada, but that’s not enough for you, right? Does everyone have to like your favorite I ice cream flavor too? Why not make your own school, or purchase your own little island, where you can do what you please? I’ll tell you why…Cause you can’t afford it.Some other nation would just come along and whoop your ass and take over your country, and you’ll be forced to submit to their beliefs. Hopefully some mormons cram their backwards beliefs down your throat, if your lucky. You’ll be praying to Allah, for him to send you somewhere as friendly as Canada, then.

WAKE THE FRIG UP CANADA!!!DO NOT TRUST ANY MUSLIM BE ON GUARD!There is no such thing as a modern MUSLIM!They do not believe in multicultural society!READ THE KORAN!Warning There are updated KORANS where they took out certain passages to make us believe they are peaceful!YOU FRIGGING WANT THE TRUTH I SUGGEST YOU VISIT THIS SITE! http://www.islamthreat.com or go on you-tube and watch islam threat to America!The speaker is Robert Spencer!Peace,god bless Its time we take back our Country CANADA!

PLEASE READ THIS !Islam has never been a religion of peace. Islam has always been spread by the sword since 610AD. Jihad, or Holy War to spread Islam, has been a religious obligation directly from the Koran.

Muslims believe that every word in the Koran is the literal word of God as revealed to Mohammad by the Angel Gabriel over a period of 23 years; 10 years in Mecca and 13 years in Medina. If every word in the Koran is the literal word of God, then Muslims have no choice but to submit, (“Islam” means submission, and a “Muslim” is one who submits) and comply regardless of what is required or the consequences.

Women are not equal to men under Islam and Sharia law. They are the property of men, especially to satisfy sexual interests, and are worth half of a man when called as legal witnesses or in matters of inheritance. If a wife is disobedient her husband can beat and hit her.

Islam does compel non-believers to convert. The Koran specifically exhorts Muslims to fight non-believers until they either convert or pay the protection “Jizya” tax to be allowed to survive under Islamic rule as an inferior. (Ref. Koran, 9:29) The Koran deceptively states in one verse that “there is no compulsion in religion”, but it is out of context. The Koran states that Muslims should not initiate hostilities against non-believers, but that too is taken out of context. The proper context in the Koran states that Muslims have a religious obligation to bring Islam to non-believers and attempt to convert them. If the non-believer decides to reject conversion, then they may be attacked for being hostile toward Islam. It is another circular argument.

[Koran, 3:85, 5:3, 8:39, 9:29, 16:52, 39:3, 42:13, 61:9]

There are no “moderate” Muslims, just “Muslims”. There are Muslims of varying submission and commitment to Islam. But, those who are not 100% committed in accordance with the Koran, Hadith, and Sharia law, are defined specifically in the Koran, Hadith, and Sharia law as apostates from the faith and deserve to be killed if they refuse to return. Those persons who refer to themselves as “Muslims” have a religious obligation to Islam 100%, nothing less. Those “Muslims” who either fail to, or refuse to engage in Jihad to spread Islam throughout the world are apostates, not “moderate” as the term is socially defined.

Islam and Sharia law does not deal equitably with non-believers. Non-believers may not act as witnesses in any legal proceeding involving Muslims. A Muslim woman may not marry a non-believer. Non-believers, in Islamic countries, are treated as inferior beings relative to Muslims. In Sharia law there are distinctly separate laws dealing specifically with non-believers.

Muslims are allowed to lie under 3 circumstances: to save one’s life if captured by non-believers during Jihad; to advance the cause of converting the world to Islam; and to keep piece in the home between a husband and wife.

AawwSuck it up!Stop playing the race card. It makes me sick!Theres the door…dont let it hit you on your way out. :cheer: If its so bad here go home. Oh wait your own people would most likely behead you. :huh:

You need to adapt to Canadian way of lif. We do not need to roll out the red carpet for you.Your kind is a virus. You represent the devil.

The Muslim way is the right way really?I am fed up with the Muslims of the world stay in your own country and leave the rest of us alone. I also don’t agree that we should get mixed up in your wars we should leave you alone. If you want to stone your women marry 30 women and kill each other have at it. Quit with the BS about drinking and having a good time. What makes you think you have the right way your heritage? Really.

Canada] have lived in this country most of my life, and follow the rules and regulations of this country. My problem is when you people come to this country, you feel you should be accommodated to. This country has let turbins be worn, that is not our dress code. Signs have been changed, because some numbers are unlucky to some people. They have stopped prayers at school in the mornings. Our Christmas now Happy Holidays. These things should never have been done, we were never asked if we wanted a multi cultural country. We have been given it whether we liked it or not, and it is about time we take it back.

“Whether you like it or not Muslims will be in Canada,and our voices will be heard. We know what the right way of life is.” I am being told by someone that has just come to this country that theirs is the right way of life.

A Mr Landry of Quebec stated “You will regret Multi Culture some day.I believe him, we are all headed for trouble.

One thing we will not have Sharia Law in this country, Full Hijabs should not be worn on our streets. No knives should be worn or whatever you call It on the streets or in schools. Prayer mats should be discreet on streets. Remember this is a Christian Country, so please do not try and change it. If you don’t want to abide by Canadian laws..GO HOME to your own country.

Today is Jan 30th, 2015. I am a white woman (16th generation canadian). I ran into two black women as we were waiting for the lights to change to cross a main street in Ottawa. We got chatting. It turned into ‘Canada is responsible for everyones healthcare whether they live in canada or not, including family who lives overseas. I said NO we are not. We already have 3 million more OHIP cards in Ontario than we have residents of Ontario (2 millon are foreign people who do not even live in canada and 1 million are americans). So canadian taxpayers are paying for 3 million foreignors medical coverage at 425,000 per person per year and they do not even live in canada and do not pay 1 bloody red cent in taxes here, yet we have people homeless. I thought all this to myself, then as I was walking the other direction they told me ITS NOT YOUR COUNTRY! (they are not even born here they had accents!)…is there something wrong with this picture people?? Am I cracking up. Is it canada’s fault that the world is over-populated, are we responsible for that? Is it our fault we are a superior country due to who founded this great nation? We are only 38 million people we have 2 million unemployed….

From my experience, you are not “cracking up.” We are in serious trouble, from which we may never recover. We are being overloaded, and the system will crack apart. Add environmental degradation to overpopulation, and we are staring into the abyss, unfortunately.

Canada has been targeted, as was Sweden, as “soft.” Here is a statement purportedly by a very famous Islamist:

“We are not here to adopt Western values, we are here to colonize the U.S. (and Canada) and spread Islamic sharia law… Canada has one of the easiest legal systems to penetrate and advance sharia from within…but if that doesn’t work, we won’t hesitate to use violent jihad.” –Tariq Ramadan

Islamists believe that the “filthy kuffar” or nonbelievers/infidels must do all the grunt work and support Muslims. They pray not to be infidels on a daily basis – up to 17 times a day saying al-Fatiha, a prayer begging Allah not to make of them nonbelievers. We are contemptible and to be used and spit out, according to the “radicals,” who contend it is they who represent the “true Islam.” And they are correct, in that they are following literal Islam straight out of the Quran, hadiths and sunnah.

Nadoo you are a big fool , a despicable hypocrite.you who is treated worse than a dog in your Islamic country has no right to impose nothing on the good canadians.if your modesty and abstinence from alcohol was worth shit why then are most muslim countries messed up.you claim moral superiority but most Islamic countries are hell holes , mired with oppression, disease , violence and poverty. The “kuffar is unclean but the kuffars wealth , superior technology , great infrastructure and societal organization are not unclean.you use the kuffar wealth and technology to build your mosques and make jihad.your Allah needs to give u all a big wack in the head.you muslim hypocrite.

I agree that people should be free to practice their religion and culture as long as it doesn’t infringe upon the rights and beliefs of others. Also, I do not believe in one right belief system – I believe people should practice the religion that feels right to them and not discount the beliefs of those who think differently.
I don’t think that education, gender expectations, and what have you should be changed to accommodate those who believe differently. It is one thing to be exempt from music but a terrible thing to segregate based on gender and ability. N western culture we have moved beyond segregation by race,religion, and gender – not entirely but far advanced in comparison to other places.

Maybe God would be pleased with you if you were just a decent person and obey the laws of the land in which you live. By asking us to change our laws or our education or our religious beliefs only shows a lack of respect for what we have worked so hard to get. We treat women with respect here not like property. We believe that everyone has a right to speak and be heard. Your religion has never had that and is trying to remove very important human and equal rights from this amazing country. Your religion is set back in a time when knowledge was forbidden and it has only spread to the Muslims of today who think the same way. Your laws will never be fully excepted here and they will never apply to anyone else but yourselves. I have no idea why anyone would come to a loving and open minded country like Canada only to spread the hate and injustice of the country or region in which they have escaped from.

I assume that it is also Allah’s wishes that while you are praying on your mat you are also marrying off your 8 year old daughter to a dirty 45 year old. That is okay though because the profit Mohammed married a 6 year old, though he waited till she was 8 before full sexual intercourse.

I should start with that I think all religions are toxic and all the more so fundamentalist interpretations. The whole point of democracy is the equal tolerance of opposing points of view but that isn’t really possible when people believe that they “know” god’s will. They have no doubts, have no interest in the validity of other religious or irreligious points of view. That very certainty puts them at odds with others and by definition disallows tolerance of differing or opposing points of view. Notice how quick Nadoo is to suppose that because you don’t subscribe to her religious point of view you must be a drunk. Further she makes the point that if she wants to lay out a carpet and pray in the middle of the street such is her ‘right’. No dear, it’s not, or if in the process you’re run over by truck then I’m sure that’s just ‘god’ calling you home. The smug certainty of all religious zealots is antithetical to freedom of thought and action. Sharia law is just one example of the cancer of religious thinking made into law. Barbarism in the name of ‘gods’ justice is no justice at all, merely the slaughter of those who don’t comply. There’s nothing wrong with wearing a hijab, or for that matter a bee keeper suit (burka), but it never ends there. In no time such practices become law, such laws get broken and the barbarism starts. Stoning and beheading become common place, and religious law is upheld. There’s no point in arguing that this wouldn’t happen because examples are all too abundant in the world around us. You’re very certainty of what ‘god’ wants is a formula for pain and destruction.

You cannot say that you know the right way in life. That is insane. You choose to live the way you do because of the country and family you grew up in, nothing more. If you were born in another country you would be of that faith or one of many religions across the world or even an atheist depending on the way you were raised and the knowledge you aquired during your life. If you are so desperate to only surround yourself with people of the same faith and ideals then I believe the statement is fair. There are countries that share your beliefs and your way of life. But you do not choose to live there. Ask yourself why that is. I think this reply will go on deaf ears but I needed to say something.

No ! No you can’t drag your dirty carpet in the street and block it to pray. Keep your beliefs to yourself in your house. I don’t care for your religion or any. You believe in God, well I don’t. But I don’t go around sticking it in YOUR ugly face. That is MY Canadian right. Stay in the hell hole you came from. The change has come and your religion is seen for what it is….evil. Nobody want you around really. And buy the way, it is a scarf….but you should continue to wear it…it covers that ugly frizzy hair you all have…wear the whole tent why don’t you so we don’t need to see your ugly fat bodies with the big noses. Keep your ugly muslim men away from me while we are at it. You are just a bunch or dirty people…dirtying the world. Your Prophet is a pedophile

Actually all you were saying that you came here to take over Canada. You came here on purpose not to adhere to our culture and our way of living. In yoy religion you don’t have a God you have allah and allah is saying to you that you must kill Christians he is also saying that you can screw your nabor and screw children. Your prophete mohammad screwed a 9 year old. Your praying is all fake and if you spread out a mat in the middle of a street I guarantee if I come along driving that be the end of you.

I am a Muslim woman but do no believe in the Sharia Law. The only Law I believe in is the The Law of God that promotes LOVE and harmony. All this killing of people of different , races and religious only serves to move from God and closer to Satan. Most people worship religion instead of worshiping God. God did not ask the Muslim men to make themselves God and take lives. If you believe that Allah asks you to be the Punisher then think again. We are all equal in the Gods creation with different roles. Muslim men you are so afraid of women so you oppress them. If you believe, then promote love and harmony instead of hatrid, aggression and murder. Who signed you the role of God anyway, Blessed are those pure of heart .Muslim woman start to think for yourself. You man is not your God.

AgreedWell said noorie. I personally have no real problems with any religion. It is when it starts getting toward this fundamentalist mentality or extremism that I have a problem with it.

I say that God would want everyone to live according to what they feel is right, but that they should not attack the views and beliefs of others. I think that regardless of one’s religion or lack thereof, it is all okay. Extremism, however, is a problem. Do people really think that God/Allah/Jesus Christ/whichever deity they worship wants them to kill people who don’t think and act the same way they do? I, personally, think that He is more forgiving than that.

Thanks for your wishful thinking Noorie, I hope you are sincere and that this isn’t more tigiyya (lying to the infidels for Allah).

The fact of the matter is that muslim men ARE told to do all these evil things by the Quran. Perhaps you should learn more about the religion you profess to belong to and read the Quran (as your muslim brothers are constantly exhorting us nonbelievers to do).

What about the rest of us who are not muslims? Do we get a say? How do we fit in to your notions of love and harmony if, for example we believe that God and Satan are the same evil fictitious serial mass murderer?

Love and harmony are unfortunately incompatible with the teachings of the Quran.

ToOneandAllIts not just Canada that is a Melting pot, of the countries are. Its human nature, people going to distant places looking for work and it is been since … I dont know , a very very long time. A very good percentage of your country’s population originated from some distant land, most probably Ticahn, Lizzy, Nancy , even Archaeopteryx. Its easy to say go back to your country, or shout slogans that hurt people, But its way harder to hold on to values that you believe are good for you, the Burqa for instance. Countries want to ban it but if you go deeper into the motives of the veil, its better than showing your cleavage…..Many people will call this argument bullsh*t and call me names and …but its easy to understand why a religion says this and that if you have an open mind. This is free thought, Religion only guides and if it not where for it people may even not be allowed to visit a foriegn country and be at peace with one another. Secular is good and most religions teach to be graceful to all people irrespective of the religion. My point here is everyone should accept people of different beliefs and not feel fed up because you dont want to change… There will be harmony.

Please just LEAVEI agree wholeheartedly Ticahn. I’m sick to death of hearing about their demands on OUR countries to conform and suit their pinched thinking. I love Canada. It’s a beautiful country. Why, oh why do we let these sour, hate-for-life and enjoyment of life we believe in, come in and demand change to accommodate them? Worst of all is they continue to get what they want so are becoming bolder by the day. Why do we not DEMAND they conform or get their sorry behinds back to where they came from? If they love their twisted lives so much, why come here in the first place? Makes no sense. One day people will get their fill and put a stop to it. Hopefully sooner than later.

Actually, the US is the Great Melting Pot – you come to the states, you become american, throw away your identity and assimilate. Canada is often referred to as the Great Mosaic – come to our country, bring your customs and identity with you and add to our country’s cultural diversity.

The problem we face when we allow people to be themselves is that we open ourselves up to conflicting beleif systems and practises.

I love this country and I am proud to call it my home and I love that we are so culturally diverse, but i have to take issue when any one sector of the population starts bullying the others, demanding they change to suit their belief system.

to *anyone* who does that, I say go away and find another country that suits your needs better.

I whole heartedly agree, that’s EXACTLY how they think and do!!! I’ve experienced these pathetic parasites first hand meddle in my immediate family manipulating a member to convert to Islam behind our family’s back. On top of that telling our family we should be thankful for Islam rescuing our family member. I honestly HATE MUSLIMS, I DON’T BLAME ISRAEL FOR HOW THEY DEAL WITH PALESTINIANS. My eyes have been opened up wide to how Muslims have absolutely no respect for other cultures, they look down on Western society and due to this fact alone, they should emigrate to the HeII hole they came from.

I am a canadian white woman who is christian. My first husband was from Iran and brought up moslem. He turned against it at age 10 in his own nation, so did his family. They were minorities and did not have basic human rights in their own nation. This is how Islam treats minorities in their own nations! His sisters had to be walked to and from school so they would not be raped or taken. He used to be beat up in school because of his language was different that the persians. There were spies in the neighborhood always listening and watching to see who is against islam… and u never knew who they were. It could even be your sister-in-law. He recalls seeing 12 year old girls hanging from hydro poles walking to school because they were accused of liking a boy or possible having sex (if you can imagine!). By the time he was 18 he decided to leave-his life was at risk as were many others. He decided to go to a western country and when they told him canada-he madeup his mind BEFORE LANDING IN CANADA that he would not be iranian. He would throw his culture in the toilet, only speak english and only hang out with canadians. He knew if he stayed with HIS people he would never progress. He came in 1989. He is now rich living in vancouver.

Thank you, alsoThere is nothing most Canadians want is to live in harmony with all our citizens, being whatever race or religion. I don’t understand why there should be a divide. Certainly compassion for one another. We can all believe in this wonderful land and country what is good and kind to humanity This great land of Canada. If you bring your festering ways into our midst, I think it could cause havoc. Please no more sharia law, let it go, as its barbaric. Lets live a life that we are famous for, caring, accepting and what we brag about the most is diverse and multicultural. PLEASE lets live a life that YOUR GOD, MY GOD AND EVERYONE ELSE GOD wanted for us as Brothers and Sisters.

Those families are demanding what is called freedom of choice wbich is completely Canadian. Parents have the right to choose what their children are taught and nobody should get a say over a parent. This gentleman is mixing things up.

Well then say it instead of thinking it. Canada is going down the tubes because Canadians won’t speak their mind. Canadians are letting immigrants do our thinking for us. We have been described as a melting pot. Well maybe its time to melt as one, and get back to what made us.

I totally agree with the professor… you are welcome in our country, but stop trying to change everything.. and as for being offended over things.. get over it…grow up… and move on. We accepted you into our country , now you can live by our Canadian rules or move out of the country and go back to where ever you came from and live by your rules.

Really – just like us, you mean?Most muslims just want a roof over their heads? Then it is about time they start shouting that from the rooftops, because as things are, a lot of people in the west are coming to the conclusion that maybe muslims do want what the west is, but under shariah law and under islamic dominion. And of course they ust want to live their lives in peace, just as we do – but then they expect to live an [i]islamic [/i]life, under our roof.

The problem with muslims is that they think and speak in tongues: when they say Freedom they really mean their freedom and our [i]submission[/i], when they say Democracy, they mean they want [i]what we have[/i], but then under shariah law. And when they speak of human rights, they really mean [i]islamic rights.[/i] Believe me: the two have nothing in common.

sorry to burst your bubblewell this article is not about what most muslims want. it’s about what these muslims want and should not get. mohammed the so called prophet of islam said that anyone who listens to music should have molten lead poured down their ears. you think these people are making it up on their own? to hell with mohammed and islam.

[quote]Anas (Allah be pleased with him) reports that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give peace) said: “On the day of Resurrection, [b]Allah will pour molten lead into the ears of whoever sits listening to a songstress[/b]” (Recorded by Ibn Asakir & Ibn al-Misri ([url]http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=1786&CATE=142[/url])).[/quote]

you’re an idiotNo, you are absolutely false. a very SMALL number of priests had the issue, there are thousands and thousands of priests, and a handful had this problem. You’re an idiot for judging many by the actions of a few, which is EXACTLY what you people claim to be victims of.

Priests don’t rely in “sacred texts” such as Bible to justify their child “marriages” (rape), as have millions of Muslim men done with the hadiths that depict Mohammed as having sex with a nine-year-old girl:

“Narrated Hisham’s father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married ‘Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed (sic – consummated) that marriage when she was nine years old.” Sahih Bukhari 5:58:236

“Narrated ‘Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).” Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64

“Narrated ‘Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that ‘Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).” what you know of the Quran (by heart)'” Sahih Bukhari 7:62:65

“Narrated ‘Ursa: The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with ‘Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).” Sahih Bukhari 7:62:88

“Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu’minin: The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. according to Bishr’s version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter.” Abu Dawud 41:4915

“`A´isha Bint Abu Bakr: Muhammad married her in the month of Shawwal, three years before the Migration, ten years after he claimed prophethood, according to the tradition of `A´isha herself. He had intercourse with her in the month of Shawwal, eight months after the Migration. She was the only virgin among Muhammad’s wives.” Tabaqat Ibn Sa`d, 8:58; Ansab al-ashraf, 1:410

“Aisha said, ‘The Apostle of Allah married me when I was seven years old.’ (The narrator Sulaiman said: ‘Or six years.’). ‘He had intercourse with me when I was 9 years old.'” Abu Dawud 2:2116

Christians don’t have religious leaders who make arguments for marrying one-year-olds because of the prophet’s example of child marriage:

muslim’s in America they want to come to other countries and try to change the way we have been since the beginning and look how they treat christians and NON-muslims in the countries they came from but we should make special arrangements for them when they come here!!!! I don’t think so GO HOME

According to Iranian ex-muslim， Dr. Sina’s book, “UNDERSTANDING MUHAMMAD: A Psychobiography of Allah’s Prophet” , he said your view is a typical westerner’s mistakened view of Muslims. Here’s a quote from the book:

[b][b][b]”Since September 11, 2001, there have been over 11,000 terrorist attacks, resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians and a lot more injuries, throughout the world. The perpetrators of these attacks were not monsters; they were Muslims. They were pious people who believed and acted in accordance with their faith. There are millions more who think like them and are ready to do the same.If you think Islamic terrorism is a new phenomenon, think again. Islam owes its success to terrorism. The prophet of Islam boasted, “I have been made victorious with terror”. [Bukhari: 4.52. 220] Since the day Muhammad set foot in Medina, he started his campaign of terror. His followers have been doing the same ever since. Muslims are intolerant, supremacist, bullies, and violent. They are highly inflammable and can explode if they are not treated preferentially and with respect. At the same time, they abuse others and violate the rights of people of other faiths. This is psychopathology. To understand Muslims, one must understand their prophet. Muslims worship and emulate Muhammad. Islam is Muhammadanism. Only by understanding him can one know what makes them tick.”[/b][/b][/b]

Like most people in the west, I used to think that only a few Muslims are “fanatic” but this book enlightened me to countless shocking facts. All Muslims must serve allah’s cause and that means working towards making all nations on earth into islamic states. I seriously urge all democratic world leaders to read it for themselves to anticipate what can happen to future world orders because “Muhammad followers” are exploiting the easy, humanitarian side of western democracy to achieve their plot to ultimately make all non-Muslim countries to become islamic states. This is the view held by an ex-Muslim and author of this book, so it is not based on racism but from personal experience of this evil and intolerant islamic doctrine that is backbone of the koran. It can be found here: http://alisina.org/understanding-muhammad/

Ha! Idiot.You seemed to have gained more misconceptions than you lost from reading that idiotic book. Questions;

1. Don’t just number the terrorist attacks; number the amount from non-Muslim psychopaths. Terrorism is guerilla warfare for the weaker and the more desperate, and the world has plenty of non-Muslims in those conditions. Google. What were the numbers again?

2. Why the hell would you assume a person can’t be racist against one’s own race? That’s stupid. How many black slaves were born into believing that they were supposed to be slaves?

3. How many VICTIMS of terrorist attacks were Muslims?

Do some research into Muslim countries vs. non-Muslim. In democratic Switzerland the population voted against allowing minarets.

Guess what Saudi Arabia hasn’t banned? Christian churches.

I say this as a white, educated Australian. And I want to know, why is the automatic response of migrants asking for certain conditions that they should leave? Clearly they haven’t been welcomed wholeheartedly in the first place, or LEAVE wouldn’t be the first response.

Instead, we should ask that they suggest ways for us to accommodate them without inconveniencing us either; they can’t disrupt our traffic, but they can look for ways to pray out of their homes when they need to. Like a network of Muslim homes elsewhere, or a clever map of the closest Islamic temples. There are ways for both groups to be smart about it.

Lotti, the idiot is you!I do not call people idiots lightly, but your utterly dumb statement under point #3 about Saudi Arabia just made me want to bang my head against the wall. You claim to be educated but your statements reek of ignorance. You claim that Saudi Arabia does not ban churches. Pray do tell where you received that gem of wisdom? From a Wahhabi cleric? Not even the Saudi embassies would disseminate such utter rubbish! Please provide proof! Show me a photo of a church in Saudi Arabia or a Christian, Jewish, Hindu or Buddhist congregation. You won’t find anything!

Religious freedom, as you know it, if you’re truly from Australia and not just an Islamist imposter, does NOT exist in Saudia Arabia. The country is a theocratic monarchy, and the practice of any religion other than Islam is prohibited. Churches of any Christian denomination simply do not exist in Saudi Arabia, hence they cannot be banned. Your argument is a complete non-sequitur! Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia with links to relevant sources:“Religious freedom is virtually non-existent. The Government does not provide legal recognition or protection for freedom of religion, and it is severely restricted in practice. As a matter of policy, the Government guarantees and protects the right to [b]private [/b]worship for all, including non-Muslims who gather in homes for religious practice; however, [b]this right is not always respected in practice and is not defined in law.[[/b]2] Moreover, the public practice of non-Muslim religions is prohibited.[1] ” from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Saudi_Arabia

As you can see, there is no right to congregate in churches or temples in Saudi Arabia and there are no church buildings!Hell, you do not even have the right to carry a Bible or any non-Islamic religious text for that matter without facing arrest, a severe beating and/or time in prison!

As for your responses #1 and #2: I don’t think that anybody disputed the fact that there are non-Islamic terrorists; hence, your argument is invalid.

For an educated person you also seem to struggle with the definiton of racism. Let me help you out: According to my good old Oxford Dictionary racism is prejudice or discrimination directed against someone of a [b]different race[/b]. Thus, your premise is simply false. Lotti, dear, one cannot be racist against members of the same race. I am not disputing that there is intraracial violence and discrimination, but that is not racism.

If I had more time, I’d also tackle your, what I presume to be rhetorical question about making immigrants feel unwelcome, but I am quite certain that you are a lost cause, and that my time would be better spent counting dust bunnies!

Go back and check your numbers then, you kind hearted genius. If 20,000 dead in the name of Islam since 9/11 doesn’t mean anything to you, maybe you’re not as sensitive as you pretend to be.

Good for Switzerland for banning the minaret. Are you suggesting that our good neighbours should be yodelling out a call to prayer at 5 in the morning at the top of their lungs? Not in my god damn neighbourhood. Now it’s time for the burkas and the niqabs to go too, along with the dictatorial jihadi a**holes (and their apologists).

I am VERY comfortable with the way Prof. Kanwar made his statement and he is absolutely right. Enough of the politically correct BS. We need more people willing to stand up and tell immigrants of all nationalities that if they do not like it here then they are free to leave!

Hey Nancy, your fanciful former State of Palestine was a British Mandate from 1920 until the creation of the State of Israel.

Prior to that it was a totalitarian Islamic hell hole called the Ottoman Empire. And yes, now that the Israelis are running the first democracy in that region ever in history, everyone is free to leave.

However, I think the Israelis do like living there and are there to stay. As their ancestors had done for thousands of years before Islam overran their homeland and made it fatal or intolerable for them to stay there. This is Islam’s opportunity to get along with it’s old neighbours or fu**ing DIE.

But NOOOOOOOOO….Palestinians get their first opportunity in history to have a real election and who do those tolerant forces of moderation vote for? The first party to be elected to power (Hamas) since 1933 whose only plank in their platform is genocide. As one long time diplomat once said regarding this curious “Peace Process” of war and occupation (sorry I can’t recall who), “the Palestinians have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity…(like as in…to make peace).

This guy is right; If you want to live under sharia law, GO BACK to the hell whole country you came from. I’d be telling this same statement in America. This is the way things are done here and if you don’t like it get OUT ! If we lived in their country would we not be bound by their law and ways ?

I as a Deist in the vain of Thomas Paine agree 100% with the following you commented: to wit:”Somebody should make this statement in America not just to Muslims, but to the fundamentalist Christians who are attempting to impose their corrupt theocratic ideals on a secular state.”

Wow .. I don’t think there is any comparison between the fundamental christians and the Islamic religion… Maybe you should go and live in one of those muslim countries where there is quite a lot of poverty, governmental tyranny etc etc …

Western womenWestern women are not being protected under this multicultural law and alll these crazy cultures dancing around in their strange clothes and languages………its getting more and more unsafe even in ottawa women cant go out alone at night here due to ethnic gangs. There is alot of crime that did nto exist before……………who is defending our women???????????????????????

Canada & the US tooI am glad to know Canada has the same problem that the US is experiencing. The hosts are expected to accommodate the newcomers, rather than the newcomers trying to fit in to the host country’s ways. Who changed that and when? People, go where you are comfortable; don’t try to make everyone else live like you (if we wanted to live like you, we would move to your country of origin).

@Rob: Christians do not try to impose anything on you. They cannot help it if you are uncomfortable with what they say, tho. And if you are offended, just get over it and grow up.

Dissatisfied/LeaveI agree with Puppyface. Faith without works is dead. I also feel America is a choice land. Our founding Father’s acknowledged that God had made and preserved our Nation. There are natural born citizens that now want Liberty-In God We Trust removed from our coins, they want prayer to be taken out of schools, they want and want and want. If they don’t like what their country stands for, they should leave along with those who have come and want special treatment. I too feel if we don’t have here what you want then it is best to leave. Here in America we have freedom. I know in many other countries you have no choices. I also know unless we change the direction we are now headed in, we will no longer be the country that God shed His grace on. I don’t agree with the direction our President is taking us, but I have hope that somehow things will change. I also admire and respect that Professor Kanwar made the statement he made. It will help, I hope, to make others realize all Muslims are not radical and some will stand for what is right.

How very refreshing to hear Professor Kanwar make the statement he did! He obviously appreciates what this country has to offer to immigrants of all ilks. His sentiments are “not” overstated. Many feel the same way but say nothing, lest they be branded as racists and hate mongers. I admire him for taking such a a stand. Kudos to the Professor. Now…… let’s see our politicians grow some back-bones and take the same stand as Professor Kanwar. Professor……. I salute you.

Oh, that’s wonderful!The PC brigade must be spitting bullets at this comment. They can’t call him an “Islamophobe” since he’s Muslim, neither can they call him a “racist” since he’s not white (or more accurately not Caucasian)!He is, of course, absolutely correct. It is definite Chutzpah to expect an [b]entire[/b] Country to adjust to meet the demands of a minority – which is, of course, what Muslims do – but it is also craven of the Countries – all Weastern ones – to do so.I sincerely hope that Canada will start to grow a spine – just as there are a few bone-buds in that direction in Europe at present with Sarkozy, Merkel, Cameron saying that multi-culturalism has failed.

First, I think that yes, people coming to a new country must adjust to the culture, and the norms. For example, I am an American living in China and I can assure you that China expects me to live by their norms and laws, as does the school I work at.

However, having said that, we should not speak in generalities about all Muslims. I have a number of good Muslim friends who are not the extremist type, nor advocate violence, or a world-takover by Islam. Many are liberal, perhaps not literalists (and thus don’t follow all of the things), and very open-minded.

@John MC- The definition of “racist” does not require that someone be Caucasian. That in itself is a bunch of pc bullsh*t.

Racism simply means that someone has either a psychological, most likely negative bias against an entire race. This can manifest in prejudice, or negative actions taken based on this bias. Here in China, a lot of Chinese are VERY racist agains other races, especially those of African heritage. ANY person, regardless of race, can be racist.

Joe in My New CountryProf. Kanwar brings honor to himself and to Muslims everywhere; even though he is still a muslim. Most muslims lost their honor. He even brings honor to humanity better than the weak back boned government leaders, who are too frightened to lead their own country and honor their own government job and honor their own people. I too am foreign born, and I agreed in my “God Given Conscience” to live by my new country’s rules. I like it here and I melt in the “melting pot” here very nicely and am content with my fellow human beings. I have to be “mentally unbalanced” to leave the hell hole behind me and fight to start and live in a new hell hole. Sorry, but Islam was a mistake.

Welcome to my country Joe Tren. I think you might be able to teach us Canadians something about honour which a lot of us seem to have forgotten. I am happy to have someone come here who feels they have something to teach or to share.

However, I refuse to be dictated to, and by the name of my Uncle Aisel who died fighting Hitler, anyone who wants to dictate their faith to me can prepare to die too. If my country won’t declare war against these dictators, I will.

It is so true when you say that most muslims have lost their honour.

Why don’t history classes teach which side of World War Two much of the Islamic world was on? They were not neutral like it said on all the old propaganda maps, anymore than they were when they were still called the Ottoman Empire. Same old, same old enemies. Intolerant racist supremacist bullies who are incompatible with a modern multicultural democratic world.

ofcourse what he said is common sense. bt he need to convert to christianity to make u believe tht he is sincere??? now who has a lack of common sense here??? i am a christian too bt u sounds like a racist…

OH Paleeeeeeez! Have you been on a different planet for the last 10 years?

Muslims are demanding foot-baths, prayer-rooms, halal food, removal of pigs, photos of pigs, statues of pig, ham, pork, or bacon can’t exist in the same building they’re in, dogs must go, hospitals must eliminate all medicine or cleansing fluid that might contain alcohol, taxi drivers won’t carry people with a bottle of wine, or a dog if they’re blind, check out girls can’t handle a package of bacon, even though it’s completely sealed in plastic, women demand that they have their drivers license photo with their face completely covered, which completely makes the photo redundant, every day there’s another news story where muslims are planning a terrorist event, and they are always just good ol’ boys that never done no wrong…it just goes on and on and on…

Muslims have no idea how much hatred they are bringing on themselves because of their belief that they are superior to all non believers, and they insist on emulating a prophet that was a thief, liar, mass-murderer, sexual deviant, pedophile, and almost every other characteristic that would be considered anti-social, psychotic, and sociopathic.

If there’s another event on the magnitude of 9-11 it wouldn’t surprise me if people rise up and start slaughtering muslims en-mass just to get rid of the evil cancer that they have become in every society.

Islam cannot co-exist with any other society, it’s been proven for 1400 years. Islam must be eradicated from earth and the quran, hadiths, and sunna must be burned and any one that’s committed these texts to memory should be given an immediate ticket to their perverted pornographic heaven, complete with 72 virgins, and young boys with the skin of pearl, with a complimentary bullet in the forehead.

You are obviously an ignorant lowdown hillbilly. Not knowing what Islam is , i may not be Muslim but i know that the ideals our countries are born on are not being demoralized here. If there religion demands them to not eat pork or to be less of a slut then let them. Also, im more educated than you on the topic ; i have Muslim friends who i have asked questions about their religion to understand it more.

P.S. Ironically enough seeing this mass hatred and ignorance i may convert from Christianity.

Not knowing everything, doesn’t mean accepting anyTo “Anonymous,” your Muslim friends may not be telling you everything. Why? Because most Muslims simply do not read themselves, rather they just memorize, or accept everything that they’re told no matter how ridiculous it may sound be. And if they do in fact do read, its highly ‘ inflammatory propagandist BS.

To deny, or even object to what the Quran, or even Bukahari says, even if-highly questionable, most Muslims choose not too.

Obviously there are good-intentioned Muslims out here, I’m one-have been for four decades, but I simply refuse to accept anything, and everything that removes one’s humanity.Thus, I will not participate in my own oppression and the oppression of others and call it truth and justice.

I am insulted that you call yourself more educated on the subject, you arrogant little creep when you obviously have no idea about anything. Please go and read a book, any book, before insulting us anymore. Preferably a history book.

P.S. We’re not Christians here for the most part, stupid. You should ask your muslim friends what they do to Christians in the hell holes where THEY came from before you claim to be educated.

P.P.S -Most ignorant lowdown hillbillys are Christians and some folks up in them thar hills might call your condescending and ignorant remarks hateful too. So get over yourself.

i agree with u 95% of the way. why the hell would u kill muslim children, you just need to teach them a positive religion other than muslim, they are freaking children they know very little about there religion and them know they will get raped or molested or beat up i am almost 100% sure that they would choose a different religion first chance they get. only muslim that are evil need to die. evil muslim go to hell whether they believe it or not. its funny that evil religions pray. they must be praying to the bible of satan.

We need somebody like the professor in Australia. Muslims left thier homeland to escape the injustice and unfairness that exists there—now they want to bring the same regime to this country and stuff it up

What “we” think….“That might be putting things a little more forcefully than most of us would be comfortabl;e with….”.

Says who?As far as I know, “most of us” completely agree with what mr.Kanwar said.Ask the ordinary guy on the street, not the politician, what he thinks the demanding muslim immigrants should do….Then, you just might change your “most” for “some”.

Yeah we are NOT going to turn into the UKThe UK has already agreed to create a seperate court for Sharia-law cultures.. From what I have seen of Sharia law it is the worse most oppressive set of medievil laws ever. and just like the religions that spawn this stuff, changing it will never happen.

re: [quote name=”jonmc”]Oh, that’s wonderful!The PC brigade must be spitting bullets at this comment. They can’t call him an “Islamophobe” since he’s Muslim, neither can they call him a “racist” since he’s not white (or more accurately not Caucasian)!He is, of course, absolutely correct. It is definite Chutzpah to expect an [b]entire[/b] Country to adjust to meet the demands of a minority – which is, of course, what Muslims do – but it is also craven of the Countries – all Western ones – to do so.I sincerely hope that Canada will start to grow a spine – just as there are a few bone-buds in that direction in Europe at present with Sarkozy, Merkel, Cameron saying that multi-culturalism has failed.[/quote]I think that in respect of multiculturalism as in many other aspects of human lives we have to put things into context and not overgeneralize. Multiculturalism is not only desirable but unavoidable in this globalized world. The problem is not that any one culture should force another to do anything. In a multicultural society, people learn how to keep their heritage cultures WHILE adopting (and being adopted by) a new one. The whole idea is to learn how to accept each other without trying to force others into our cultural ways because we think that our ways are better. All we have to do is left a space open for choice. If these parents have their own cultural ways and want to keep them, they should reserve them for their private lives. All that has to do with the mainstream culture of a country have to either be adopted by immigrants (including most certainly the language) or left aside as a personal choice. If mixed education is mandatory in a certain country and a family decides to move into this country, they just can’t expect to impose their private beliefs on public institutions.

Disagree – every country has its own culture, laws, systems. To say that any country has to adopt anyone else’s ways just because they show up wanting to take advantage of the accomplishments and opportunities developed and built by others is garbage. If strangers show up at your home uninvited, come in, help themselves to the fruits of your labors – your food, your electronics, etc; your resources, reputation etc and then on top of that say that you must change the decor to what they want, get a different car that they like better, and that they family and household dynamic needs to change to suit them not you – – – how should one react? Cede your home culture and resources to these strangers?? Of course not. Same with countries writ large, and of course more complicated inter-relationships. Same principles.

So, if Acharya is on any bandwagon against those barbaric attributes then, I and millions of others worldwide are on it with her so, shut the f**k up or you can get the hell out too – why don’t YOU go live in an Islamic country with sharia law. See how it goes for you.

Catering to the DARK AGES (like Islam or Christianity) mentality is of no benefit to anyone and sitting back and allowing it to flourish unabated is an utter shame upon us ALL.

“Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”- Omar M. Ahmad, founder of Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) July 4th, 1998

“I am telling you that my religion doesn’t tolerate other religion. It doesn’t tolerate. The only one law which needs to spread, it can be here or anywhere else, has to be Islam” - Abu Bakr, Muslim Cleric

“Oh, you Muslims everywhere, sever the ties of their nation, tear them apart, ruin their economy, instigate against their corporations, destroy their embassies, attack their interests, sink their ships, and shoot down their airplanes. Kill them in land, at sea, and in the air, kill them wherever you find them.” - Sheikh Abdel Rahman from a US prison

“The real weapons of mass destruction are the desire for martyrdom. Millions of you are ready to be shaheed. Half a million martyrdom shaheed is enough for Muslims to control the whole of earth forever. In the end of the day, Islam must control earth, whether we like it or not.” - Abu Hamza al-Masri, Islamic Cleric

“We don’t make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians…Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value.” - British career welfare recipient Sheikh Omar Bakri

“We must not forget that Allah’s rules have to be established in all lands…” - Imam Muzammil H. Siddiqi, Islamic Society of North America

“Ultimately, we (Muslims) can never be full citizens of this country…because there is no way we can be fully committed to the institutions and ideologies of this country” - Ihsan Bagby, CAIR

“The 9/11 hijackers should be honored as martyrs.”- Warith Deen Umar, Former Muslim Chaplain, New York Prisons

“Now, all our imams, our public speakers, should be concentrating on militarizing the Muslim public…Only carrying arms will do this task.”- Muhammad Al-Asi, Former Imam at the Washington, D.C. Islamic Center

“Americans in general might be more supportive of targeted attacks on civilians, as part of the war on terror, than U.S. Muslims.” - Ahmad Al-Akhras, CAIR

“In time, this so-called democracy will crumble, and there will be nothing. And the only thing left will be Islam.”- Siraj Wahhaj, Brooklyn, New York Imam

“Muslims cannot accept the legitimacy of the secular system in the United States, for it “is against the orders and ordainments of Allah … the orientation of the Qur’an pushes us in the exact opposite direction as the forces that are at work in the American political spectrum.”- Imam Zaid Shakir, Former Muslim Chaplain at Yale University

“Let us continue the protests. Let us damn America. Let us damn Israel. Let us damn their allies until death. Mohammad is leader. The Qu’ran is our constitution. Jihad is our path. Victory to Islam. Death to Israel. Revolution! Revolution! Until Victory! Rolling, rolling to Jerusalem.”- Sami Al Arian

“This religion [Islam] will destroy all other religions through the Islamic Jihad fighters”- Jordanian/Palestinian School Book 1998

“Islam not a religion of violence, but if you burn Qur’ans or draw Muhammad, we’ll kill you”- Gambian President

“No we don’t want to democratize Islam, we want to Islamize democracy” “We love you, America – and we want your children for Islam”- Islam on Capitol Hill.com

“I am a traitor to America because my religion requires me to be. We pledge to wage jihad for the rest of our lives until either we implant Islam all over the world or meet our Lord as bearers of Islam.”- Samir Khan

[quote]As for Prophet Mohamed melting lead on people is the most fascist propaganda I ever heard. Bring your proof if you are truthful. Your lies will backfire on you one day, the day when the truth prevails.[/quote]You call him “Prophet Mohamed,” but you don’t even know what he said?

[quote]Anas (Allah be pleased with him) reports that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give peace) said: “On the day of Resurrection, [b]Allah will pour molten lead into the ears of whoever sits listening to a songstress[/b]” (Recorded by Ibn Asakir & Ibn al-Misri ([url]http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=1786&CATE=142[/url])).[/quote]And your history’s totally screwed up:

THEY ARE NOT WELCOME HERE!I just wish Prof Kanwar would take a drive a few miles South and speak to our US Congress and straighten them out. These people who want to live here and ignore our laws They need a course in sharia law 101. If they don’t someone else soon will, we have a great Constitution and not much patience with invaders no matter what they wear.[/b]

Just as with any group, these people should acclimate themselves to the dominant culture or home-school. the dominant culture gets to decide how to educate the students in a way that make them productive citizens for the dominant culture. traditions and laws that are not a part of a secular cutlure should be kept in the home, and personal, and should not be inflicted upon those who are not a part of the personal traditions.

HogwashAnother attempt to cause separation…….come on A.S….you can do better by posting articles that point out similarities, instead of prompting more and more separation…….shame shame shame on you for jumping on the bandwagon.

Which Muslim wants to establish Sharia in Western The main media cleverly reiterates images of some Muslim groups who live in another era or come from another planet and interpret Islam their way with no knowledge whatsoever. As a matter of facts & first hand experience, most Muslims living in Europe or America this idea doesn’t even cross their mind. It’s an absolute falacy that we want to establish sharia outside Islamic countries. Yes there are some Muslim morons who want this but these are a fraction of the Muslim nation. If I speak your language then all Christians are blood thirsty criminals who know nothing else but killings, blowing Muslims up, colonisers, invaders, fornicators and the list has no end. Am I right in saying this? off course not because not all Christians or Westerners are behind wars in Islamic countries or third world but your armies are. Your governments messed up the Muslim world inside out for hundreds of years, millions of Muslims have died under the hands of your armies, all our polistitute despots have been imposed on us by your governments. you brought hell to our countries including Al-Qaeda but at the end we are the terrorists.As for Prophet Mohamed melting lead on people is the most fascist propaganda I ever heard. Bring your proof if you are truthful. Your lies will backfire on you one day, the day when the truth prevails.

Muslims ruled over These Christian countries for hundreds of years:Greece,Albania,Macedonia,Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania,Hungary,Spain,Georgia,besides all the Christian countries in the Middle East and North Africa their religion completely consumed-and what a sorry mess they left all of these conquered countries in! -add to these Paxistan,Bangdaldesh .,Afganistan ….etc…etc.What an indictment of a culture and religion.The Turks ruled the Middle East for centuries with great cruelty until they were driven out by the British and the French in 1917Subsequently these lands were divided among the various Arab tribes-apart for a small slice of land reserved for another persecuted people: The Jews.Morroco,Algeria,Libya,(Egypt)was occupied by western powers for little more than a 100 years2

your PROFIT muhammed was a illiterate bandit…he killed many people and made up a lie…that God said he can tax Christians n jews JUST for practising their faith…he was a looting , slave owning bandit who OMG married a 6 yr old n had sex when she was NINE…OMG how can you fools worship this horrible human ?Jesus never killed anyone , he preached LOVE n FORGIVENESS anddied like a hero against cruel Romans…Muhammed lived a life of luxury and sposedly FLEW TO HEAVEN from the dome on the rock on his horse…You really believe this garbage ?nah , worst , cruellest belief in earth is islam…if it’s Gods real religion why is EVERY muslim nation retarded ? Looks to me like God HATES you fake , cruel cultists pagans moon God lovers .You HATE all none muslims , are arrogant , intolerant and blame all your faults on usa n the west..lol soooo weak then aint you , if the west makes you obey them ? Also most muslims I seen are criminals…they sell drugs , are pimps n steal n drink in my towns downtowns area..God I wish you’d just stay in ur own lands…ffs we pay enough for the oil

Good Luck!!!!!Is this guy Mahfooz Kanwar 4 real?? If so; I give the man a standing ovation , It appears that he standing up to the rest of the WACK JOBS !!!!! If people/world would develop a live and let live philosophy an MYOB!!! The world would be better OFF!!!!!

What about?Have you looked at US law. hebrew all the way. we even have judges, We have all been suckered by religon, the supreme court, Sanhedren, they have always been in control, we even have to pay tithe, taxes, does our law protect or control, who gave anyone the right to control, read the good book it will tell you, and who it was given to, the Creator of all gave it all to his special ones, how do I know? it says it in the book. it’s all about transgression and punishment.

“bold and honest?”It is very easy to be “bold and honest” without being rude and obnoxious. I have little doubt “those people” don’t KNOW they are living in a “Hell hole,” but that’s no reason to say it like that. I believe the Sheite Muslims can do as they want, as long as they do it THERE. Opinions are fine, but we should be civil about it. (excuse me if Sheite is spelled wrong)

Rights, but No Special PrivilegesI think some Western politicians are going out of their way to give special privileges to Muslims for the same reason that some judges (and justice systems) make special allowances for violent criminals — to create a backlash. In the latter case, a conservative backlash, but there are other judges and justice systems whic do the exact opposite and ‘throw the book’ at people who are basically harmless, thereby creating a hyper-liberal backlash. (Basically, we get to choose fascism or Stalinism!) This is part of the politics of ‘divide and rule.’ The powers that be work it from both ends — they attack the Constitution from the left and the right. In this case, I personally don’t see why the school can’t simply excuse the students without changing anything. I believe that parents should ultimately have the right to decide. if a class violates their basic beliefs and have the freedom to keep their children. In the long run, this is the only way to get freedom from brainwashing. Schools should stick to basics and eliminate ANY courses that indoctrinate values — religious or social. But since this is difficult to achieve, at least give the parents the ultimate decision for particular courses. Educators will hate this idea, but it’s much better for the people to be in control and have confidence in their democratic rights than to have educators (the state) decide what values the kids should be taught. Stick to basic, objective knowledge.

So like, if the parents don’t believe in math or science, they can just pull the kid out of school, right? Can he still get a medical degree then? Or grow up to function in the real world at least?

You uneducated fool! Or are those the basics that are okay with you? So what about music, dumb dumb boy? Are you sure you’re not working for the Taliban? Or the freaking Stooges, you old burnout?

Please educate me Richard. I’ve only been to a couple of Universities and a college or three, and for the past forty years since then I have been writing and studying about history, philosophy, the natural sciences,literature, psychology, anthropology, etc. Would any of these subjects be the sort of basic, objective knowledge you’re wishing for? What about the Classics? Where do you stand on teaching evolution? Is that basic enough for you?

Do you think I’M brainwashed just because I’ve been to school and maybe didn’t only just stick to the basics, like reedin, rite-in and rithmetic?

I suspect you’re like a lot of the dumb people who come from the Right as opposed to the Leftdumb. You were a stupid troublemaker in school who got mostly Cs and Ds and so now thirty or forty years later you want to fire all those “politically correct” teachers for brainwashing you out of your opportunities in life. Am I close?

Sadly for you, I think you may actually have had a really good point about this “divide and rule” tactic from “the Powers that Be that work it from both ends.” Unfortunately your limited education made it impossible for you to articulate what the hell you’re talking about.

Your vague paranoia about brainwashing also gives away your ignorance. However, unlike many folks who claim to be educated, at least you can spell, so you did learn how to read and write then, obviously.

And there is your antidote for brainwashing, Richard…go read some books, lots and lots of books. And then get a second opinion.

I, for one, do not believe that this gentleman is stating his case too forcefully. The fact of the matter is, I think Mr. Kanwar is stating the case in the most precise and reasonable terms imaginable. This is becoming a very large problem throughout the western world. Muslims are pouring into western countries and cultures, many seeking asylum and then demanding that the western culture adapt to their way of life. It’s absurd in the extreme. One would not believe that it were possible and yet we are seeing it all over Europe. In a few short years, many of the former democracies of Europe will be theocracies. Couldn’t happen here? Ha. Think again.

Huh?Christians didn’t denounce God’s word by writing the New Testament. The Old Testament told of history and foretold of what was to come, and the New Testament is about the realization of the prophecies of the Old Testament and the covenant by which Christians live today.

You are correct in once sense, though; Islam has never had a reformation, and its teaching became more violent and restrictive, not less as happened in the Bible.

HYPOCRACY – THE NEW RELIGIONLet’s see: I don’t want muslims forcing sharia law on me, but I do want to force myself on my fellow Canadians by means of the extortion racket called taxation because I know what is best for them, and the public university sytem, which employs me, is best for them. I know I have some principles somewhere…I just don’t remember where I set them down.

Whoever needs sharia law should go back to where tIn one of my book of political essays I wrote of Oum Kalsoun, the revered late Egyptian songstree who, after a concert during which she sang ¨Oum Kalsoum¨, a song which speaks of a woman liiberating herself from male mental and physical enslavement, asked the women of her audience to stand and remove their enslaving veils. She said: ¨We women are the reproductive force of society. Let us hold our heads up high….and BARE!¨ And all the women in her auience stood and removed their veils! No child is born wearing a burka. All peoplel are born equal and equally nude…which means we are born as the Creative Force, whatever you may consider that to be..created us. Equally naked. Men created shame of the body and fear of their own sexually violent desires respecting women. Clothing was created out of necessity, as protection from the elements, almost two million odd years ago before any organized religion was ever thought of.

Islam, the Johnny-Come-Lately of the three Judaic religions. second daughter of Judaism, is a hodge podge of its mother and elder sister,Christianity, and as its sister did, uses mass murder to distance itself from its maternal origins and remain supreme.

In my essay I also say, ¨anyone who has to leave his country because he or she cannot survive or make a living wage there, must also respect the laws and customs of whatever country he or she immigrates to. They must have the humility to acknowledge that no one invited them to immigrate to another land, and that if they wish to prosper, they must respect the life style of the country they are exploiting. In their lands they would not accept a foreigner imposing another belief system on their cultures. Why, on earth, do they have the arrogance to think they have the right to impose their beliefs on another country which neither invited nor needs them. They are the ones who need laic countries´ opportunities to succeed…to survive, countries, unliike their own, which allow religious freedom to all…to be practiced privately. Most of their countries, out of the historic, inherited Islamic need to conquer, would and DO NOT allow other religions in their lands. Sharia is not an evolved law but a barbaric one and certainly does not belong to the educated modern world. Whoever wants to practice it should stay home or return there. No one will miss them. Except for those who have both skills to offer AND respect their neighbors´ beliefs and practices.

terrence – this is one of the dumbest rejoinders I have ever read. Did you try to make yourself look DUMB – in any case, you sure did it!

Are you REALLY so DUMB that you fail to get the point that forcing yourself on others and feeding on them is also evil? And that one evil does not become a good by comparing it to another evil?

You know that you can be sent to prison for years for failing to feed your parasitic masters or for what you smoke, even if you harm no one.

It takes far less courage to be outraged at muslim monsters than to be outraged at Canadian monsters. But monsters are monsters. Their differences are not nearly as important as their similarities. [i]That’s[/i] the point. Camparing rape and slavery is wallowing in the inessential. They are both violations of property rights to self.

Hmmm….so if rape was general – if everybody was raped – then it would be OK with you. Looting millions through taxation is not as evil as the rape of a women because evil done to all is less evil than evil done to a few – lots of evil is less evil than occasional evil?? ….

Or are you saying that rape is worse than slavery no matter the victim count….?

terrence, me thinks thou art a fool who believes that evil is good when it’s the evil you are acustomed to. Do try to become a moral philosopher instead of merely a chauvanist.

Are you really dumb enough to think I said or meant that “if everybody was raped – then it would be OK with you. Looting millions through taxation is not as evil as the rape of a women because evil done to all is less evil than evil done to a few – lots of evil is less evil than occasional evil?? “

Give your head a shake, PUZZLED. Well maybe not, it is so empty, that it may fall off your neck.

It appears that a LOT of ‘Western’ nations are having second thoughts about the desirably of of opening their borders to Muslim applicants for residency in their countries. All that remains now is for the people in the various governments who are RESPONSIBLE for allowing them in to remove their heads from the sand. All applicants should have it very carefully explained to them that THEY must assimilate – or stay home.

Kanmar: Snuffing Out the EmbersYes, Professor Kanwar should give a speech before the U.S. Congress about the repulsive idea of bending Western law to accommodate Sharia law.

The Islamic-Sharia practices of today are about where the Christian practices were 600 years ago – sadistic barbarism.

If cameras had existed 600 years ago, many pictures could have been taken then of tortured Christians that would have been just as gruesome as the 2010 Time magazine cover of the teenage Afghan girl without her nose.

The creation of the U.S. Constitution in 1788 was the beginning of the end of Christian barbarism in North America and Europe.

Somewhat like the revolutionaries who wrote the U.S. Constitution, Professor Kanwar is here today snuffing out the smoldering embers of desire of any sadistic barbarians amongst us.

trying for balanceLet me preface by saying I do not support misogeny, nor do I think that people should be denied the human right to make, play and listen to music. I also think that the division of the sexes during the education process can lead to misunderstandings and assumptions.I am not an expert on Islam, and the passages from the Koran cited in this thread are condemning indeed. However, I feel I must point out that there are passages from the Christian Bible that are just as condemning, supporting the imprisonment of women in ignorance and slavery, supporting the death penalty for sodomy and adultery, as well as passages where God orders the wholesale slaughter of the conquered and the rape and enslavement of the innocents.

Fundamentalist Christianism would be unacceptable at this point in history. These passages are obviously not a measure of the kind of life that those who profess to the Christian faith lead. And I think the Koran is also not an adequate measure. Fundamentalist interpretations of Islam are reprehensible for its backwardness, the same way fundamentalist interpretations and applications of the Bible would be.

I also feel it is important not to remove the history of intl relations from the equation. It is a fact that several of the so called Islamic countries were well on their way to a more open and just society, when the US govt. toppled their democratically elected leaders and helped to install fundamentalist dictators. The US govt was also instrumental in creating one of the most powerful engines for Islamic fundamentalism, the Muhajdadeen. In fact the US has been supportive of every dictator the world over and has consistently undermined every popular effort to allow more fairness and democracy in other countries, especially those where we have either a material or strategic military interest.

These historical acts have had consequences for the those who live in these places. People are not born believers, they are instructed. When you are raised in a society that enforces certain points of view with frightening violence, it is only logical that many will hold these views.

Canada has no clean political bill of health. What the canadian bureaucratic and religious authorities did to the peoples of the first nation is a horrendous and unforgiveable crime against humanity. Many transgressions, including the the support of the israeli apartheid and the abuse of human rights during the G20 throw a deep shadow on the claim to moral high ground.

I feel it is not useful to say things like “this is the way things are done here. if you dont like it, leave.” No society is perfect. Morals are evolving with the time. How do they evolve? People introduce ideas that are fought over, discussed and sometimes put into practice. This process must be allowed for there to be a constant progression towards a just and free world. Dissension is vital to this, most democratic of newly established human rights.

Finally, someone [a muslim] brave enough to speak what I’ve been screaming for years! Let’s see if the good professor is still alive a month from now! You know…they observe the “religion of peace”. Yeah right!

12. “Let not the unbelievers think that they will ever get away. They have not the power to do so. Muster against them all the men and cavalry at your command, so that you may strike terror into the enemy of God [Allah] and your enemy…” –Q 8:59-60 (Dawood, N.J., The Koran: With a Parallel Arabic Text, Penguin Classics, 1991, p. 183)

13. “Those who deny Our revelations We will burn in fire. No sooner will their skins be consumed than We shall give them other skins, so that they may truly taste the scourge. God [Allah] is mighty and wise.” – Q 4:56 (Dawood, p. 86)

14. “Therefore, when ye meet the unbelievers, smite at their necks and when ye have caused a bloodbath among them bind a bond firmly on them…” – Koranic surah 47:4

15. “They but wish that ye [you] should reject faith as they do, and thus be on the same footing as they, so take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah. But if they turn renegades, seize them and kill them wherever ye [you] find them and taken no friends or helpers from their ranks.” – Koranic surah 4:89

16. “Fight them until there is no dissension and the religion is entirely Allah’s.”– Surah 8:39

[quote]Dhimwit ([url]http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Dhimwits.htm[/url]): “A non-Muslim member of a free society that abets the stated cause of Islamic domination with remarkable gullibility. A dhimwit is always quick to extend sympathy to the very enemy that would take away his or her own freedom (or life) if given the opportunity.”[/quote]

Poor penny has totally taken the Quran completely out of context, some people have no education. Some people just read as they want to see it yet it takes scholars a lifetime to figure out the true contexts of these verses. Penny I’m sure is no scholar but one of those ignorant people who hates Islam and only looks for something that appears negative to post. I can do the same and post a hundreds of verses about peace so what’s her point or objective??? everyone give penny a clap

Ah, the “out of context” argument ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK7P7uZFf5o[/url]). This argument is utterly fallacious, as it is Muslims themselves who use these verses for their bigoted and oppressive sharia law and other “acts of piety” such as violent jihad. There are NOT “hundreds of verses about peace” – you haven’t even read the Koran, have you?

[quote]”About sixty-one percent of the contents of the Koran are found to speak ill of the unbelievers or call for their violent conquest; at best only 2.6 percent of the verses of the Koran are noted to show goodwill toward humanity. About seventy-five percent of Muhammad’s biography (Sira) consists of jihad waged on unbelievers.”

Dr. Moorthy Muthuswamy[/quote]Please take your taqiyya elsewhere, as we’re not buying it here.

Oh god, not the “taqiyya” argument. That was a tactic used when entire communities in Islam were under threat by other Muslim regimes or non muslims (such as Genghis khan). Way to conflate the history of an entire word.

If Taqiyya is just a temporary tactic, why is it in the Quran? Thank the gods for creating Genghis Khan to stop these Islamic hordes from taking over the entire world with their “temporary” tactics. They’re not temporary, dumbass…they are for all of eternity according to the Quran.

Do you actually seriously believe that these whining, lying, abusive muslims are not still practising this tactic?

Please feel free to inflate or explain the entire history of this evil word if you are so historically knowledgable.

Explain!!!I think all immigrants should go to a debrief period and be taught and tested weather they understand what are they moving into. If they pass the test and regulate their religion to the Canadian way or to be practice at home everybody will be happy. But taking our indoctrinations to other countries and trying to fix everybody else accordingly is hard on the Muslim follower and their young are going to feel discriminated. Mahfooz Kanwar is absolutely right and he’s probably dealing with a lot , i can tell by the tone of his statements….

The only reasonMuslims believe in “their” Allah, is because they’ve never been taught, much less taken the time, to study anything else. I find it reprehensible that even Americans, have little to no knowledge of any Religion, other than Christianity. Which the OT has some pretty sickening things in it. Like the 2 she-bears sent from God to “tear-apart” 42 children, for calling someone “bald;” who was, guess what???? BALD! The “God” Yehway/Jehovah, (depending on WHICH-TYPE of “Christian” you are), was a narcissistic, hateful, vengeful, spiteful, arrogant, murderous, deluded, self-centered, maniacal, baby-killing butt-face! But when he “became a man,” suddenly was a magical-nice-guy. Doing wondrous things, and kissing babies, rather than tearing them apart by using another cutzie thing he “made,” BEARS. I think the writers of the NT decided the “Old God” had to be made “nicer,” more “palatable.” Yes, the Piso family did some great “fantasy-fiction” with the NT. Using Biblical-names like “Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, to make it more “believable.” I don’t buy it. I’ve studied way too much, to buy into Jesus, Mohammad, Krishna, Horus, Osiris, Isis, Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, Joseph F. Rutherford, or Charles T. Russel; all just a bunch of deluded MEN, who “thought” they were “messengers-from-God;” you’d have to be feeling pretty guilty to buy into such deception. That’s the hook though….”guilt.” Religions USE “guilt” to SCARE you into “believing.” When, IMPO, they were ALL “just men.” Teachers, perhaps; but “men” all the same. If there were NO “Religions,” there would be no EXCUSE for war.Heaven help us all, because God’s not at home!

sir, you are so correct. sir, your opinion is shared by many, the trouble is that the powers that be in many countries are such a gutless mob of wimps and bow to these demanding people, I share your view and have expressed the same many times, adapt to the country you are in, not complain or insist on change, OR LEAVE AND GO HOME if your mother country is so special.

I have said for ages about people coming to the U.S. From any other culture that is basically different, then demands that we remake our society to suit them: hey, you just voted with your feet that the United States of America is preferable to the country of your ancestors, family, and birth. We didn’t make you come here nor did we invite you. If you chose to leave behind the entirety of whatever individual things make up your culture of origin, in order to have opportunity, freedom, liberty, safety, that is your choice; do not attempt to force it nor any consequences on us. Prove to us that you value this country not just for what you can take from it; become a part of it to perpetuate it – and not least, to honor those who came before and by words and deeds and hard work built what you would now benefit from. Elsewise you are just cultural and economic rapists, and why should anyone who is true to this country – whether recent or long time – give you the time of day let alone acquiesce to remaking our country around you??

Time to stop the madness of what has already taken place on this, and unapologetically stand up and shoulder-to-shoulder as the multi-origined, growing-pained, ever moving forward torch carriers for the country founded on heart and head. I turn to better words than my own: “It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have this so far nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us – that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion – that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain – that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom – and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”

Courageous Prof Asmaa Mahfouz is right, the Muslims should go back to their country of origin. If their country was so good then why migrate to another? In every country the Muslims migrate, they are nothing but trouble in general, they are unable to integrate into the new culture or the country but want to introduce theirs. Is it they are missionaries (Dakwa) advance party and their extended families or followers trail later to spread their ways/religion? These people should not move into an advanced or developed country but create one as how the Holy Prophet lived! Western nations should be on guard, the US is already crumbling to their demands.

hi :confused: let me say professor u are not menber of muslim …in the contrary .if u are u will not say what u said ..anyway my answer is why the foreing come to our islamic country and we do not expell them either ..this is the forgiveness of muslims and u always fighting ..what are u going to fight ? allah ..heh u won’t be able because islam is going to spread around the world ..taliban is the best people in the world ..they defend their country from atheist like u ..stop colinization ..and say what u want ..

Hey Mouhsin – I am not muslim but have lived in 3 muslim countries and worked in one, and I know just how full of hot air you are; try disagreeing with anything in muslim countries like you can in Infidel lands – ain’t gonna happen and if one tries, especially a female, just watch what happens. In my opinion, from my observations not imagination, islam wants to keep peoe down so that a ruling oligarchy can retain power generation after generation – and the rank and file islam evangelist is nothing but narcissism coupled with ignorance and unearned arrogance – and Stockholm Syndrome writ large, with a dose of hazing mentality of “hey I had to go through x so so does everyone else in the club.”. You all know you aren’t going anywhere or doing anything, so let’s keep everyone down with us so we can feel better about being held down. Grow up, tap into the 98% of your brain that is unused. Try making currently muslim countries viable, productive, and meaningful to the rest of the world before you worry about colonizing the rest of us.

want muslims want who caresmuslims only want a roof over their heads oh shucks how quaint except its my house they want and that aint so quaint honey .and my street and my town and my country and my life.

who gives a damn what they want and how they whine and cry to get all their demands met.

there is a god in heaven who is a righteous judge and he gives a damn that i will stay have my house in the holy city of jerusalem for me and my fellow jews.

they are planning to take everyones houses and countries. wake up folks and smell the jihad on your doorstep.

:cheer: This man has the right attitude. When you are in another country, you should be following the laws of that country not trying to change them to fit your own goals.This is America and we accept everyone but where does it say we should be changing out laws, culture and policys to please people from other counties that are not even US citizens!

Dear Mr. Revisionist. I wonder what you wish to be a revisionist of… (history maybe?)

There’s a much bigger difference between the two religions. Islam outnumbers Judaism by more than a thousand to one. And despite the Nazis’ and the Islamofascists’ attempts to wipe them off the face of the earth, the Jews have managed to turn a backward desert sh*thole into a blooming oasis of democracy. It is the only country in the entire region where modern standards of law apply and where you are allowed to have an opinion other than the official one. Everywhere else in the world, the Jews fit in so well most people can’t even tell they are Jews.

Now I don’t like what the right wing elected governments of Israel have done any more than I like what American Republicans do, but Israel is the only country in all of that godforsaken unholy desert land I would ever consider travelling to and I’ll bet that’s what most anti-semitic liberal apologists of Islam would say too, if they were honest.

Consider this, haters on all sides. I challenge anyone to tell me of any democratic country in the world which would tolerate having thousands of rockets launched into their suburbs each month, year after year without retaliating with total war.

The prof may be a muslim but he is not practicing Islam, if he speaks against the teachings of Islam he is a hypocrite to himself, I’m tired of so called muslims who have to beg mercy from the west and feel they cant practice their faith out of weakness. The prof needs to read more about Islam.

The tone of the professor is that of a strong thinker who can not allow his intelligence to be paralysed by the doctrine of a mad man far worser than Adolf Hitler. Yes, it is hard to find a person of such courage who is not afraid of the extreme vegeful nature of most Muslims.

opting out?Thinking…maybe these families can just opt to have their children not participate in Gym or Music, instead of having the curriculum changed. I know there are some religions that dont celebrate certain holidays, and some parents can opt out of certain learning things in the curriculum (such as sex ed to my knowledge)Why not be able to opt out of this as well.That said, I think people have the right to believe whatever they want, BUT if you’re in a country, you just have to somewhat assimilate. And i STRONGLY think that music and gym are very important to round out our children.

replyI am a Muslim girl. I decided to write these comments to correct your opinion about Muslim people and the prophet MUHAMMED. First off all the prophet is not a paedophile & neither any of your outrages apply on him. I challenge all of you to name just one historical character like the prophet or just half of him. Second, we are not terrorists. If you call self defense a terrorism it means you all are terrorists if you defend yourselves. Imagine that a foreign country invaded your country, what your situation will be? How will you face the invaders? Will you welcome them & give them your homeland? This is what happened in our countries not one country but many in several ways. Our reaction was normal. Any country faces what we have faced will agree with that. Thirdly, this is a reply for people who said “go home” or “go back to the hellhole country” or anything like that, first I want to notify you that in European countries & America there are a lot of Muslims hold head governmental positions even in military & army. A lot of Muslim tourists. Most of oil, petrol & crude oil in European countries & America are from Muslim & Arabian countries specifically & more & more. Imagine all Muslim people left your countries, what will happen? What will happen to your international relations with Muslim countries? What will happen to your economy? Second, in our countries a lot of western people live either as tourists or they have business or a job. Despite what you said even if all Muslim know what you said, we did not & we will not treat you as you do. We have never said to a foreigner “go home” or “go back to the hellhole country”. We have manners & our manners imposes obligation on us not to treat you as you treat us. We do not let political problems interfere with our dealing with people. Thirdly, in our country the government did not obligate women from other countries to wear Hijab in public & government institutions although this is our county’s policy (I’m talking about my country).We respect their religions & customs. We never say to any religion burn their holy book & eliminate the religion. Ask anyone visited my country Oman, if they had any problems with people & religion. Everyone is free to do his religious rituals. Who are you to admonish Muslim for not eating pork or for demanding separation between boys & girls in sport classes & who am I to admonish you for…. whatever. It’s not about Muslim it’s about respecting religions. Again for people who insulted the prophet if you want a proof that the prophet is not …as you said I’ll give you many proofs not only one & if you want a proof that we are not terrorist I’ll give a proof from the reality & show you what Israel & America did to Muslims around the world.

Did you know the prophet muhammad at age 54 married his neice who was aged 9 ? If this still don’t make him a pedophile then what was he. Also old muslim men are still allowed to marry girls before they have reached puberty – a direct emulation of their prophet.

Please read Iranian ex-muslim， Dr. Sina’s book, “UNDERSTANDING MUHAMMAD: A Psychobiography of Allah’s Prophet”It can be found in the link below as an ebook: (read it and if you can prove that it is wrong, then you can present your evidence to the author, Dr. Ali Sina. He offers 50,000 dollars to any Muslim that can prove him wrong.

The girl that U R talking about is not Prophet’s niece but his friend’s daughter_ check your information before U deduct_…Since ancient times the Arabs marry their daughters to men over forty _ including Arabs before Islam and non-Muslims (Jews, Christians and others) _, which means that this kind of habits and traditions of the Arabs, regardless of their religion and not only an emulation of the Prophet. In addition, all done by the Prophet do not harm that’s why we follow him. Another thing is that the prophet did not have intercourse with his wife of nine years old, but after reaching puberty. Of course, his marriage was done by her consent and the approval of her father … What is the harm in that? Where is the sexual assault or Sexual exploitation of children in this???

This tradition does not exist among the Arabs, but also to many people, including Indians & many poor countries … will you call all of them pedophiles?? Or this just applies to the Prophet?Thus, people who cite them on your words are nothing more than hypocrites do not portray Islam in right way, but do not hold any faith in Islam… What more can you say they are people without religion… America’s dogs and traitors to the Muslims.

I want you to keep in mind that we Muslims believe in all prophets including Moses, Jesus and others as we believe in Prophet Muhammad.

“Of course, his marriage was done by her consent and the approval of her father … What is the harm in that? “

what about HER choice? there’s no harm in the father giving approval?? how about her feelings? you only need to look at child brides today to know what she must have felt like! absolutely NO equality for women in islam.

Whenever you talk to Muslims they are always a victims. They come to OUR country, that our ancestors built with their own two hands, and they start demending rights. This was a christian country and I wish it stayed that way. Why don’t you honestly go back to your country and live your misarable life. Can’t you see, that your religion is a joke for the entire world. Pedophiles in christanity. Ok maybe and murderers in yours.

I would just like to point out that Muhammad, the Islamic prophet that commanded all Muslims to kill and rape Kaffirs (non-Muslims) was also a pedophile. He was 54 years old when married his niece who was only 9 years old (what a monster!).

Please refer to Iranian ex-Muslim, Dr. Ali Sina’s book:

“UNDERSTANDING MUHAMMAD: A Psychobiography of Allah’s Prophet”You can get a free pdf ebook from this site below or you can buy the actual paperback,

re: Which Muslim wants to establish Sharia in WestIf Muslims don’t want Sharia law in foreign countries, why then has it been officially introduced in the UK? I think our governments in Europe are too soft and should really take the ” These are our laws and our customs if you don’t like it please feel free to leave any time.” If we are so revolting and evil why on earth do you want to live with us? Please flock and stick together in your own hell holes and leave us alone. I can’t believe what they demand and expect in Europe fit in and adapt or get out. Long live bacon butties and crucifixes on the walls of our schools.

Hats off to Prof. KANWAR. If those jerks want Shariah sent them off to Saudi where a few of their accessories can be chopped off in public places.

Sick people, why on earth they go to democratic countries and dictate terms there. They should stay and enjoy their hellhole as rightly said by Prof. Kanwar. I only hope a jerk cleric does not come up with a fatwah.

Frankly speaking the European governments have become Arse lickers, traitors who have sold their souls to the devil. They can no longer identify right from wrong, and that is he reason why so many innocent lives are lost because of all these so called Sheriah hardliners who are out to destroy the peace of the world. But the truth who is JESUS will prevail. The end time prophesies are unfolding.

Gee, that’s nice. Now go tell that to the leaders of fundamentalist Muslim countries like Iran and others where many attempts over the centuries have been made to ban music, [i]because[/i] of this and other verses.

Your nonsensical kumbaya interpretation will likely not be accepted happily.

Hey Edward, you dangerous lunatic, I happen to be a poet who understands a few things about metaphors. Perhaps you’d like me to explain this to the poor songstresses whom Allah is threatening with torture and death. Obviously you haven’t got a clue.

Actually if you think that bit of taqiyya bullsh*t is going to fool anybody in this country besides yourself, I think we need to throw you out of here too.

Speaking of Taqiyya. I doubt if these supremacists commenting here who call themselves names like Edward and Susan and Billy to distinguish themselves from their cowardly anonymous brothers are using their real birth names. Maybe they are legitimate nicknames, but I doubt it. I think these people are deliberately and dishonestly trying to create the impression that there are hordes of western converts to their evil creed.

Koran burning? I would not dare do that ! But I managed to SH-T on it. Heh, heh.It is like a satanic code for some medieval cult. Members are indoctrinated to the point of non-thinking robots.Is it any wonder these people have made no contribution to art and literature, science, and medicine in the world for the last few hundred years??

Bravowell done to this man for standing up for the values his country holds dear. I agree whole heartedly you should not enter into a country then make demands that it adapts to your beliefs especially a wonderful nation like Canada who have managed to maintain a separation of church and state affairs.

Don’t back down Canada not to the wails of any religious group islamic christian or judaic. Take it from someone watching his own country slowly but surly erode because of the constant concessions to the fanatics.

And a note to those wanting these concessions when my grandfather arrived on the shores or the UK he was had to work alot harder for a place in society than you will he had t report daily to a police station for the first 2 years of his life in the UK he saw first hand what can happen when a country falls under religious rule. and always encouraged us to speak english and to value the country that had sheltered us during a storm.

STOP KISSING WHITE ASS MAHFOOZMy misguided uncle tom brother mahfooz does not have a proper understanding of Sharia or the supreme wisdom behind islam and in combination with having his nose so far up the white mans ass – he is blind and made this statement. I will pray for you brother – but stop giving these danm devils fuel for their fire on attacking muslims and islam!!! I’m sick and tired of seeing punk muslims who are afraid to stand up for our religion – especially alot of you pakistanis/Indian muslims – and arabs are no exception.

Get the hell out of my country right now Hakeem Abbas. You are a hateful, disrespectful Islamic supremacist. If you are a Canadian citizen, you are guilty of treason. If you are not a citizen, you are guilty of an act of war.You should be hunted down by our security forces and deported if not killed.

I wish you obnoxious muslim a**holes would stop your pathetic whining. I’m not wishing anything on you you haven’t wished on all of us with your intolerant muslim hate ranting. You want respect? Learn how to give respect. Otherwise you are in league with the extremists and should be dealt with accordingly.

This Must Stop,Minority Migrant Trying To DictateI totally agree with the professors opinions and i also agree that these muslims must be stopped and they must be stopped from coming to countries and using their religion to manipulate the culture of other countries into what they want .To be honest, i believe that muslims(like other radical groups) …use their religion to attempt to get away with murder, making up their religion as they go along. I think they just like to moan and complain and object about western society because we are so more civilised and advanced, we are not hanging on to the 7th century from now to doomsday…………………..TRUTH IS,WE THE WEST, GROWN AND PROGRESS AND INVENT………………………….and they just like to moan and start conflict because they have nothing better to do.

If Canada wants the same problems like Denmark,Sweden,Norway,UK,France and some other countries with Muslims boys raping blond white girls,sucking welfare system,high crime,stealing etc.,then go ahead and bring some more Muslims.I would not even call it religion as a matter of fakt,boys as early as 6 years old already know how to operate AK-47

Like many websites, we have visitors here from all over the world, both religionists and secularists. There is no test for “freethinkers” that everyone must pass before coming to this website and voting on a comment. Yes, it’s quite likely those individuals who voted down the Christianity-critical comments are themselves Christians, not freethnkers.

Again, I have no “Christian detector” that blocks such random individuals from voting. Nor do I have a “Muslim detector” or “atheist detector” that does likewise for others who may wish to vote up or down on any given comment. Visitors are free to vote in whatever direction they wish. We are not responsible for their votes.

Muslims come here for a better life – jobs and monMuslims do not come here to escape their way of life, they come here because of the prosperity and jobs. They want the jobs, they come from poor circumstances or do not have well paying jobs. They come for prosperity AND they want their way of life they left. They don’t want your way of life! Their way of life will bring strife – just like ti does back home. That part they don’t get.

why would anyone want a religion created by the devil himself the things they do are rape, abusive sex, molesting childering, beating there wifes, rape children then killing them and killing children then raping them. i think religions and people just like u and do the cruel, harmfull, torturess things your religion does are not welcome in any country but the one u came. no one wants a demon in there society. if i ever catch anyone at anytime doing those horrible things that u think is right to children and women but mainly the children i will psycphysically torture them a slowly painfull death and then kill them right then and there. muslum religion originates from satan the devil. it’s much better off if all muslim adults shoot there selves in the head instantly, almost everyone in the world would agree with me all the way 100%.

My ancestors were among the first Europeans in New France in the 1600’s (Gilles Jules Trottier/Catherine Loiseau; Jean Cote/Anne Martin; Abraham Martin, etc. ) and helped with the settling of New France and Canada. They had to endure hardships and adapt to changes in political and social circles, including learning another language. They didn’t come here and demand things ‘Their Way’. They had to work hard and adapt to new situations and circumstances. It is arrogance to assume you can come to a new country and disrespect the social and legal structures and that everyone has to bow to you wishes. If you wish to establish a unique Muslim state in Canada, perhaps Baffin Island or other location up north would be a suitable place.

muslims can not assimulateWe have to remember when muslim’s immigrate to a western country,they bring with them the attitudes and practices of their birth country. It was a way of life for these muslim’s to oppress unbeleiver’s. They looked down upon the jewish/christian population and oppressed them. If a jewish/christian women was raped by a muslim..the muslim community did not recognize the muslim for any immoral behavior as they regard unbeleiver’s as ‘animal’s and unworthy of justice. The unbeleivers in muslim countries are horribly oppressed. These are the ppl. who are now your neighbor’s. They come into our country and demand we tolerate their way’s and practices which are clearly criminal in nature and their values are anathema to western countries. How long must we tolerate a political/religious sytem that refuses to tolerant the values of their host countries?

Think of all the worthy christian and jewish people in middleeastern countries who are so beaten down by the muslim community. Why not bring these ppl. into our country where they will be a blessing and not a curse. We need to insist on strict rules to adhere to if even one muslim wishes to immigrate to Canada and America.For any to embrace islam is very telling of the state of their morals and conscience. They have embraced deception and violence to follow a man who broke every moral law there is.For anyone to state it was not a pedaphile action to marry a girl of 5 and then consumate this marriage after she turned 9 has lost any discerment of good and evil.

Airforce Veteren Thanks professor. We should open our mind broadly. If the Sharia law is applicable to the modern world, why all Muslim countries are in failure. Even you cannot visit the country, if you are women sure to be raped…..and murdered…All European nations and USA should request all the Muslims to return to their original heritage and create the SHARIA there…

What a shame.I live in London, England. Over the past 25 years of my life, I have grown to truly [b]hate [/b]my city & country, and have bore witness to a steady social decline as the direct result of an increase in Muslim population / influence. I’m almost halfway through completing my Phd, and am hoping to leave this decaying urban pit to start my new life in Canada. I hope to abandon my U.K citizenship ASAP.

My family came to Canada, before it was Canada. 1741. We adjusted our way of life to suit the rest of OUR new country, not the other way around. If you don’t like it here, get out. We don’t want to change.

GO BACK HOME This is a scary thought. This is a cult to say the least. In cults they control every one. This muslim religion is no different. Go home to your land you claim has good morals. Good people treat all people with respect,in your country that word is only one sided.

re: How steryotypical are you?[quote name=”nadoo”]I can not believe how steryotypical and raciest that comment you wrote is. I am a muslim. I live in Canada. We muslims are trying to convay people to respect our beliefs just as they want us to respect theres. I will agree that physical education is important, but that does not mean you can go around blurting out raciest remarks of the muslim religion. I walk around the streets, go to school, have white, black, asian, and spanish friends. All that while having a "scarf" on my head. Just to let you know it’s called a Hijab. Canada is a free country and you telling us to leave is unexceptable. We dress according to how God wanted us to dress. We pray because God told us too. If we want to take out a praying carpet in the middle of the street and pray that is completely up to us and our freedom rights. We do it so God will be pleased with us. Not to send any message to the Canadian people. If you wish to go around getting drunk, and having not even a thought about what God will want, or what will happen in the after life that is your problem. Whether you like it or not Muslims will be in Canada, and our voices will be heard. We know what the right way in life is, and if you wish to come along on our path your more than welcomed. All I am saying is that you should think about what you are going to say about a persons religion before opening your mouth. [/quote] You see… this is typical. Muslims think that THEY and THEY only have the monopoly on what God wants and who GOD IS!…. Other faiths believe that they too know what God wants, they are not “Drunkards” etc and they do not “Go around” doing things. It is NOT “Racist” to disagree with a religion…. it has nothing to do with “Race”..it is to do with this country having a corriculum, and EVERYONE shouls obey it, people are not expected to come along and ask for special concessions because of their religion. Muslims do this persistently, they have the UK where I live in a right mess, but soon things will change, we are getting pissed off now.

Did you know the prophet muhammad at age 54 married his neice who was aged 9 ? If this still don’t make him a pedophile then what was he. Also old muslim men are still allowed to marry girls before they have reached puberty – a direct emulation of their prophet.

Please read Iranian ex-muslim， Dr. Sina’s book, "UNDERSTANDING MUHAMMAD: A Psychobiography of Allah’s Prophet"It can be found in the link below as an ebook: (read it and if you can prove that it is wrong, then you can present your evidence to the author, Dr. Ali Sina. He offers 50,000 dollars to any Muslim that can prove him wrong.

Moslems picking on nonbelieverswell this explains why my boyfriend who has a moslem landlord and all other tenants were being harassed by him, because they are nonbeleivers. He finally had enough and hes leaving by the barbaric piece of sh*t landlord who is from pakistan(yes that country with no receipts, no running water and u have to bribe your way out of their country even if u have a passport and airline ticket) is trying to get 2 extra months rent out of each tenants and one tenant is a young girl who just got cancer and had to leave to get treatment. he also ocks his wife up when he is out and u can hear him hitting her at times. Yet this piece of scum calls himself canadian and westernized and he even flies a canada flag from his house imaigne that my flag is hanging f rom his house!!! He also has zero respect for women…….

Just GREATIt is so comforting to read those words especially coming from an individual who is originaly from a Muslim Country. I would vote for him as Prime Minister of Canada because he reflects the value, the true value of a a Real Canadian more so than are present and past Prime Ministers. He says out loud what most Canadians think and would say if they were given the chance to say it. If I were to write a similar article, chances are I would be considered to be racist by politiciians, journalists and or by high ranking (so called Canadians).

mrsif you can’t live by canadian laws and customs then get the hell back to your own country we don;t want you here anyway. muslims are nothing but trouble and i better not see one in my town because i will stop at nothing to make you leave

I as a Canadian here in Alberta applaud this mans brave and courageous stand!! We need more moderate and liberal muslims like him to stand up against the islamists….I hope he stays safe and has protection!

Muslims = Justa a PUNCH in the face, waiting to haNaddo mumbled:”Canada is a free country and you telling us to leave is unexceptable. We dress according to how God wanted us to dress. We pray because God told us too. “

It is a free country as long as we keep you Muslims from installing your draconian Sharia Law. So spare us the mundane platitudes about freedom, when your religion is the most oppressive element any Government could possibly allow to infect their Country.

Naddo also said:”If we want to take out a praying carpet in the middle of the street and pray that is completely up to us and our freedom rights. ”

That’s why no one gives a rats ass about Muslim Road Kill because anyone THAT EFFING STUPID, HAS GOT IT COMING TO EM and I am sure their are plenty of Canadians, willing to help you meet your God, Satan (Allah) just by having you pray in the street, putting your dumb ass up in the air facing Mecca, so he can kiss your ass goodbye with the car’s front bumper.

So go ahead dumb ass, exercise your right to be as stupid as Muslims are known for all over the world. You go right ahead and

questionOk…what about those muslims who were born in the West? I myself am a muslim who was born in the West…what about the converts to Islam…how does the comment that the professor mentioned apply to people like us. I was born in the States and raised in Canada, and let me tell you, I loveeeee CANADA…I’m so patriotic, if anyone says anything bad about it Im always first to jump and defend what a beautiful and amazing country it is because of the fact that us Canadians are so tolerant of people from different backgrounds, faiths, cultures etc…because we are so patient and understanding! Now I understand there are some families that dont want their kids listening to music, and wearing veils (I wear a veil by the way) but I dont really see an issue with that, if a parent doestn want his kids listening to music fine…if a girl wants to wear a veil fine, if my kid wants to shave his head off or put tattoos all over his body fine, if my child wants to dye their hair, fine, what is the problem? What is the REAL problem here? When I was in highschool we had parents who also forbade their children from PE class because it was mixed and they were not muslim!! Some were indian, and some were eastern European!! I had a friend from CHILE who was not allowed to wear revealing clothing and not allowed to untie her hair and keep it in a bun ALL THE TIME!! But hey…thats cool! I had a friend that had earings all over their bloody face and tattoos…but hey…so what..its alright! I wore a veil, my friend had piercings, the other wore a bun, and so on and so forth….THIS IS WHAT MAKES US CANADIANS DIFFERENT!!! Freedom ISSSS being able to do the things that please you even if it has to do with religious purposes…if you say freedom then what is the REAL issue here people? How can you say FREEDOM but yet condone and insult those who are trying to do the things they are accustomed to? That professor I believe is ignorant for saying that….cause not all of us muslims in the WEST come from the EAST we were born there…and mind you Ive lived in the EAST…they are not as barbaric as this Professor claims! REALLY people on the OTHER side (lol) are living LARGEEEEE I tell you! They are very festive and they love JOI DE VIVRE! Just attend one of our parties back home in Canada and you’ll see LOL! I think the media is really washing every bodys brains and making MUSLIMS look so bad for their (govt) own purposes…hint: oil!! Now with the economy being so bad they are desperate! So who shall they target…OHHH YES THE MUSLIMS CAUSE THEY ARE MOSTLY POPULATED INTHE MIDDLEEAST…AND THE OIL IS FROM THEM SO LETS MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE MONSTERS BANISH THEM AND TAKE THEIR OILLLLLL!! So simple guys…its very obvious actually…As for music to be honest if you read about the negative effects of music…u too will prevent your kids form listening to it as well from a scientific point of view…We need to go back to being the Canadians we really are…and not turn into the states and believe everything the media puts in our face and hate each other! We need to start loving and accepting each other again…the muslims in the West are not trying to take over for GOD sakes!! How can they take over if its THEIR HOME…Like me!!! CANADA IS MY HOME…yet Im a muslim, I wear a veil and I practice my beliefs but hey…I am not trying to take over!! Thats absurd! lol! Take it easy everyone…lets love each other…enough hate…dont listen to the media…they are doing it on purpose!Love you allSue.

Of course, like you, the good professor himself is a Muslim in the West. To my knowledge, no one is telling him to leave, nor is he telling others like him to leave. He’s specifically addressing people who come to the West, fleeing oppression and war, and then try to make these countries into hellholes like they’ve just left.

It’s a very specific group of people, not all Muslims. There are plenty of Muslims who have fit in just fine, such as famous TV physician Dr. Mehmet Oz – he actually fits in better than most of us, with his tremendous success. Nobody’s complaining about people like Dr. Oz.

You know, I was into the original all Canadian Trudeaumania as a kid, back in the day, and these are all very wonderful Canadian values you give lip service to.

Or at least they were at the time when we believed a more ideal world might still be possible. These ideas are incompatible with Islam however, especially Sharia (which happen to be synonyms, since it is a theocratic law).

You said we too will prevent our kids from listening to music, if only we knew scientifically what it does to them, you evil arrogant, disrespectful little supremacist bitch.

Lazy liberals need to read more actual books and not just the sound bytes. And they need to read between the lines of horribly sneaky Susan’spleas for tolerance. Read it over two or three times. She does NOT believe in tolerance. Then read the Quran and you will understand why.

Yes I understand that the professor is speaking about the immigrants that just migrated…but what if it was indians asking for such a thing, would it be such a big deal? Or what if it was Orthodox Jews with their black hats coats? I think this subject is blown out of context because it IS muslims to be honest…

As for Mehmet Oz, ya he is a muslilm but would you still think the same of him if he was a practicing muslim? What if he had a beard and wore the kufi on his head? (little white hat some muslims wear) yet he is still the same MEHMET OZ, would you still think of him the same way? What I was trying to say is we should accept people of different backgrounds, and faiths even if they dont dress the same or do the same things we do, so if my indian friend had a turban on his head…he would not be considered the same? Or if my friend wore a sari to school instead of jeans and a top or sirwal kamees? What about those who dress as goths? I wear a veil, so just cause I do, that would cast me out as not being a Canadian?

I understand some families tend to push it, like making a whole school change certain customs, what the Professor should have said is, PUT YOUR KIDS IN MUSLIM SCHOOLS IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEMS! LOL! I think that would have been a more appropriate reply!

Thank you again…thats just my opinion,Lets all just love each other…enough hate and judging…its not worth it really.Happy NEW YEAR!Sue from Ottawa!

Of course, these are good questions that everyone should ask themselves.

[quote]As for Mehmet Oz, ya he is a muslilm but would you still think the same of him if he was a practicing muslim? What if he had a beard and wore the kufi on his head? (little white hat some muslims wear) yet he is still the same MEHMET OZ, would you still think of him the same way?[/quote]No! Because he would not be the same Dr. Oz who has established himself in the way in which he has. He is valuable because he has developed himself independently as a human being, rather than an unthinking drone following rote created by others hundreds to thousands of years ago.

Oz is therefore not programmed with the anti-infidel hate speech and misogyny of Islamic doctrines. Someone dressing in that manner quite likely IS full of anti-infidel and misogynistic Islamic doctrines. Knowing what we do about Islamic fundamentalism, I would be as cautious regarding a devout Muslim as I am about devout Christians, Mormons, Jews, etc. – even Buddhist and Hindus. They all behave badly because of fanatical adherence to repulsive and hateful doctrines.

It’s time for everyone to go beyond these sexist and divisive manmade ideologies and evolve into enlightened human beings. People like Dr. Oz seem to have done so, although I don’t know what his personal life is like.

( I would be as cautious regarding a devout Muslim as I am about devout Christians, Mormons, Jews, etc. – even Buddhist and Hindus. They all behave badly because of fanatical adherence to repulsive and hateful doctrines.)

Have you actually read and studied each of these doctrines you speak of? So lets say your neighbor is a practicing muslim or Jew or Hindu, yet they are so civil with you and bring you cupcakes on every occasion or say Hello to you everytime they see you, or invite you over to dinner or even bring you dinner..(which alot of them do as its a custom to do that) would you refuse cause you beleive badly of them? So if you were to avoid them who would be the bad person here?The problem is not THE DOCTRINES…its really not… if you think about it, its those who misuse the messages of these doctrines cause they are too ignorant to read deeper into the meanings and take everything so literally. So you are basically saying if OZ did have a beard and was more practicing you wouldnt consider him to be an infidel? So now who is being the bad one here if you are just going to judge a book by its cover? Isnt that what we have always been taught…never to judge a book by its cover? What about the Ku Klux Klan? Or Skin heads…they looked like your average Canadian guy/girl..but hey they werent were they? What if you found out Mehmet Oz prayed 5 times a day went to the mosque and on occassion did wear a sirwal Kamees? If something like that would change your mind about him considering he is still the same amazing Oz then there is something wrong with the way you view things.

Lets say one day your child comes home and tells you he wants to be a practicing Jew and starts wearing their clothing, or wants to be Muslim..what are you gonna do? Throw him out, cast him away?

What about those who are Goths? Or punks? Or drag queens? or in Japan they dress like they are in fairy tales…sooooo would those be considered unacceptable cause well they dont fit your status quo of what an enlightened Western should look like or be?

Im sorry but I feel this is pure judging on your part, not everyone that has a beard or wears a sari or turban represents himeself an infidel…thats ridiculous…and unrealistic…so if your father decides to walk out one day in a sirwal kamees just for the heck of it or cause he likes how comfortable it makes him feel and grows a beard you will think that way of him too?

I dont know what doctrines you are talking about or have read but you cannot judge a whole religion, culture based on a few corrupt groups that tarnished these wonderful religions and beliefs…its MAN’s IGNORANCE and failure to look beyond the words and go deeper in understanding and failure to look at things with LOVE that create all these monsters in our world.

You need to look deeper into things,

(It’s time for everyone to go beyond these sexist and divisive manmade ideologies and evolve into enlightened human beings. People like Dr. Oz seem to have done so, although I don’t know what his personal life is like.)

This sentence you mentioned really does you no good cause it clearly indicates you really have no know real knowledge of these ideologies you speak of…and you mentioning Dr. OZ having done so yet mentioning you don’t know what his personal life is like is also not good on your part cause you are basically indicating that regardless of how amazing he is now, yet you would basically change your mind if he was a practicing muslim…

I would have to say it would be very ignorant on your part if that would be the case…and a really englightened person would learn from the different cultures, religions, ethnic groups around him to understand them better and know what they are all about rather than just shut them out and cast them away.

Why is it when the Westerners visit other parts of the world be it Asia or Middle East they are treated with so much warmth and welcomed? If you go to North Africa you would see there are so many westerns who have homes there, or India or Korea…yet when immigrants come to the West there is hostility…I used to watch the immigrants in school get bullied so much by non immigrant Canadians…I myself was bullied once I put on the veil and the whole school beat me up as a matter of fact! (it was grade 8) and I wasnt an immigrant.

When I lived in the middle East my sister went to school there and it was amazing how those from the west were so welcomed and accepted and respected and were treated with fragility in a sense cause it was understood that they are foreigners…they got housing for free, transport for free discounts for private schools, where the rest didnt get all these priveledges…oh and not to mention the really high high salaries!

All Im saying is just stop judging and start learning and stop being always afraid…embrace, embrace, embrace…all this fear and hatred is really useless…lets learn about one another…to better understand the true problem here rather than shut it out and accuse and cast out people wich will only cause more hate and more problems.

Despite all your ranting and freaking out, my work is very specific: Religious doctrines that are false and harmful to humanity and the rest of the world are to be criticized severely.

As concerns all the rest, yes, I most definitely HATE ideologies that teach and or support the following atrocities – and I would hope that anyone with a conscience and soul would likewise HATE these sick ideologies.

Those who put on the clothes of these cults are explicitly supporting these beliefs, so of course, I would be cautious about people dressed like religious fanatics, as I stated earlier.

The rest of your bilge is simply a ridiculous personal attack on someone you don’t know in the least – and there you are, demonstrating exactly why I criticize religion: It makes people antisocial. You yourself need to stop judging INDIVIDUALS such as me, about whom you know nothing, simply because I object to violent and hateful ideologies.

That’s the whole problem with religion: It teaches hatred of individual human beings in defense of a giant (male) god in the sky. Abuse the person to defend the ideology – it’s a sickness.

Below is what Islamic leaders in the videos here ([url]http://islamreality.wordpress.com/[/url]) are supporting – you’re down with all? I’m not allowed to criticize such vileness? Not allowed to be concerned about people who dress like the men who advocate such a disgusting mentality? There is NO WAY you will get me to “embrace, embrace, embrace” such depravity. If you do embrace such doctrines, I suggest you grow a conscience and stop lecturing others.

Islamic supremacy and global dominationProhibition of music and singingImprisonment, flogging, torture and death for homosexualsJihad to force Islam on the worldJews as apes and pigsJews as the eternal enemies of MuslimsOsama bin Laden in ParadiseRaping women okay in IslamFemale genital mutilation “obligatory” in IslamSex slaves for Muslim menChild marriage/rapeMohammed having sex with a 9-year-old girlWife beatingDeath for “insulting” MohammedDeath to apostates and infidelsGenocide of AmericansJihad to “raid the world”Non-Muslims being not innocent and subject to death

I am MUSLIM.I am MUSLIM and i say.. IF YOU DONT LIKE CANADIAN ( MINE TOO) LAW I TELL YOU AS MUSLIM BROTHER GET THE f**k OUT OF THIS COUNTRY I LOVE CANADA AS IS.. I MOVED HERE TEN YEARS AGO AND I WANT IT TO BE THE SAME CANADA WHEN I MOVED IN BACK TEN YEARS AGO

I LOVE CANADIAN LAW.. I HATE CAPS FOR THE TICKETS

BUT I DONT WISH THEM ANY HARM

LOVE LIVE OUR GOODNESS ARMY AND POLICE FOR BEEN SO NICE AND THEY ALWAYS THINK ABOUT US:-)NOT LIKE USA…

to all muslims that are pro islam anti christian cyou are welcom to share my beautiful country with me BUT you are NOT welcom to change it. you do not wish to adapt to canadian ways then canadians will soon revolt you out of this country. canada was NOT buit by muslims it was built by euroeans, native americans and a few chinnese imigrants in the west. THERE is not one man in history that helped found this great country that was even remotely involved with the islamic religion ISLAM IS AND ALWAYS WILL bend to this great country or LEAVE or WE will make you leave.

i am currently door to door with pamflets informing canadians about your sickening attidudes of the people that founded this great country and guess what? my suport is growing in leeps and bounds its only a matter of time before we close the islam immigration doors. its to bad for the muslims that wish to live in western culture but maybe as the profesor has done the rest of you should go and make your selves herd and appose these radicals before all islam immigration is band from this counrty

Reply…I teach them and have been told that they have come to take over Canada. My interpretation is that they would love to turn it into another sh*thole like the one they were born into & since that was not enough every other human being should be unlucky also. I blame our government because we must all be so nice that we are looking like a**holes around the world especially to France now.

BravoI immigrated to Canada because I valued the great Canadian society.Why would anyone want to change Canada to their own limited worldview. Canada has gone through its own experiences and learnt its lessons. Bravo Mahfuz… you have spoken for a new immigrant and spoken well.

NanooThis is what Canada should do, BAN ALL RELIGIONS!Religion is causes nothing more than WARS and division amongs humans! It is the handicap of evolution! When will people wake up and stop relying on a fictional character for guidance, Seriously.. you really think that there’s a super power somewere that listens to YOU.. one puny human through all the wispers of billions of other puny humans? WAKE UP!! Take control of your own lives instead of puting your hopes on an invisible man/woman. “as for god wanting you to wear head scarfs… Do you think clothes existed in early human evolution?? WE were butt naked baby!

BillyI understand its a war against Islam and all signs are there, everyone bowed down to the satanic system and moved away from the sole purpose that is to worship our creator every prophet told us to believe in god and worship him. Today it seems the satanic system has destroyed all religions and values, fortunately the only religion that is standing is Islam and that’s what they r planing to destroy next, however because god loves us religion that is sent through god’s messengers will be the saviors for all of us including Canadians.Talking about islamIslam saved many nations in the past, these previous nations said the same things you say today (Islam should go back where it came from) but guess what these nations today are thankful for the coming of Islam and will defend it with all what they got, remember Islam came in Arabia and today Arabs constitute only 20% of all muslims, the other 80% are all over the world and some of them are pure white Canadians how can you tell these Canadians go back to where you come from??? Remember initially it not a war between Muslim and non Muslim it’s a war between god and Satan and we humans are the reason for this war. God is trying to save us from hell and the devil is trying to take as much of us with him to hell. My advice before you criticize Religions find out what is the purpose of you exist an and don’t tell me we live and die and that’s it because there is no proof of that’s it. There is something after life and my proof is our existence. We existed once we can be existing again.

SusanMy dear,I was not freaking out or ranting, it’s totally clear that u have no real education about these religions and u showed that clearly when u put that list at the end of your reply. Islamic supremacy and global dominationProhibition of music and singingImprisonment, flogging, torture and death for homosexualsJihad to force Islam on the worldJews as apes and pigsJews as the eternal enemies of MuslimsOsama bin Laden in ParadiseRaping women okay in IslamFemale genital mutilation “obligatory” in IslamSex slaves for Muslim menChild marriage/rapeMohammed having sex with a 9-year-old girlWife beatingDeath for “insulting” MohammedDeath to apostates and infidelsGenocide of AmericansJihad to “raid the world”Non-Muslims being not innocent and subject to death

Every line you stated is absolutely incorrect!And totally not Islam! Don’t know where you get your sources but it’s all absolutely wrong! Lol! But it’s ok, I mean I can’t blame you. Have you ever visited a Muslim country? or had Muslim friends and I mean the kind that are covered? I’m sure if we were friends you would like me! Lol! Maybe it would take you time to accept me, but eventually you will! All I ask is to please Educate yourself properly instead of speaking ignorantly. I’m not judging you at all, you are free to believe or think whatever you like, but don’t spread false info because you feel a certain way about religions, cuz now YOU are the one judging. In all my replies to you I was trying to make you see things from a different perspective, I wasn’t imposing anything cuz as a Muslim we have no right to impose our beliefs on anyone! I’m a Muslim and covered I’m not getting raped, in fact I grew up in a home where my mom was boss! My kids are not being raped and I wasn’t married by force or wore my scarf by force actually my parents tried to stop me from wearing the scarf asking me to wait! In every country there is good and bad! Even in the west women are getting raped, there are serial killers, child molesters, racists, gangs etc in the medieval ages people got married as young as 8 years old! And before that children were sold and slaved and married off! And really if you think about it, if religions didn’t exist Man will find other things to create conflict. Unfortunately that’s the sad reality.

Since you did not even bother to check out the link I included with the long list of Islamic doctrinal points above, you are obviously unaware that I am merely SUMMARIZING THE WORDS OF MUSLIM SPOKESMEN themselves.

“Don’t know where you get your sources but it’s all absolutely wrong! Lol!”

As I always do, I included the sources, which you have ignored, making you ignorant. Here is what I said in that same comment, along with a link to the scholars: “Below is what Islamic leaders in the videos here are supporting…” Here is the link again:

Since it is MUSLIMS THEMSELVES who are making those remarks as part of ISLAM, perhaps instead of ranting and falsely depicting me as ignorant, when it is clearly [i]you [/i]who do not know what you are talking about, you should go rant at THEM, these MUSLIM SPOKESMEN.

If you are so concerned about them “misrepresenting” Islam, you need to track them down and correct THEM instead of me, since all I was doing was summarizing/paraphrasing what THEY said. I suspect, however, that you will do no such thing.

And below are some quotes from the Koran ([url]http://truthbeknown.com/islamquotes.htm[/url]) for you to chew on as well, followed as eternal edicts by millions of Muslims – please feel free to correct all of them as well. I’m sure the Taliban and the Wahabbis and Salafis would love to hear from you. Again, you will do no such thing. Rather, you will continue to rant and rail against those of us who dare to expose this mentality, rather than correcting the mentality.

By the way, the frantic fingerpointing elsewhere, trying to impugn others in order to distract off the subject at hand is called a “distraction fallacy.” Instead of addressing the subjects here about Islamic doctrine, you are attempting to troll me into an argument about rape in Western society, etc. These are typical Muslim apologetics tactics, part of the following stages:

1. Denial2. Deflection3. Insults4. Threats5. Violence

[b]Unbelievers[/b]

“This Book is not to be doubted…. As for the unbelievers, it is the same whether or not you forewarn them; they will not have faith. God has set a seal upon their hearts and ears; their sight is dimmed and grievous punishment awaits them.” Quran 2:1/2:6-2:10

“God’s curse be upon the infidels! Evil is that for which they have bartered away their souls. To deny God’s own revelation, grudging that He should reveal His bounty to whom He chooses from among His servants! They have incurred God’s most inexorable wrath. An ignominious punishment awaits the unbelievers.” Quran 2:89-2:90

“Lord…Give us victory over the unbelievers.” Quran 2:286

“Lord…give us victory over the unbelievers.” Quran 3:148

“I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers.” Quran 8:12

“When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them.” Quran 9:5

“Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate.” Quran 9:73

“Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous.” Quran 9:123

“Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another…” Quran 5:51

“He that chooses a religion over Islam, it will not be accepted from him and in the world to come he will be one of the lost.” Quran 3:85

“Let not believers make friends with infidels in preference to the faithful – he that does this has nothing to hope for from Good – except in self-defense. God admonishes you to fear Him: for to God shall all return.” Quran 3:28

“Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed with rods of iron.

“Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: ‘Taste the torment of the Conflagration!'” Quran 22:19-20

“Muhammad is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.” Quran 48:29

“Those that deny Our revelations We will burn in fire. No sooner will their skins be consumed than We shall give them other skins, so that they may truly taste the scourge. God is mighty and wise.” Quran 4:56

“Let not the unbelievers think that they will ever get away. They have not the power to do so. Muster against them all the men and cavalry at your command, so that you may strike terror into the enemy of God and your enemy…” Quran 8:59-60

“Believers, know that the idolaters [non-Muslims] are unclean. Let them not approach the Sacred Mosque after this year is ended.” Quran 9:28

“The unbelievers among the People of the Book [Bible] and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.” Quran 98:6

[b]Women[/b]

“They ask you about menstruation. Say: ‘It is an indisposition. Keep aloof from women during their menstrual periods and do not approach them until they are clean again; when they are clean, have intercourse with them whence God enjoined you….'” Quran 2:222

“Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and forsake them in beds apart, and beat them.” Quran 4:34

“A male shall inherit twice as much as a female.” Quran 4:11

“Call in two male witnesses from among you, but if two men cannot be found, then one man and two women whom you judge fit to act as witnesses…” Quran 2:282

[b]”[Forbidden to you are] married women, except those whom you own as slaves.”[/b] Quran 4:24

[b]Rewards in Paradise[/b]

“The righteous shall return to a blessed retreat: the gardens of Eden, whose gates shall open wide to receive them. Reclining there with bashful virgins for companions, they will call for abundant fruit and drink.” Quran 38:51-2

“God has purchased from the faithful their lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for the cause of God, they will slay, and be slain. Such is the true promise which He has made them in the Torah, the Gospel and the Koran….” Quran 9:111

“As for the righteous, they shall be lodged in peace together amid gardens and fountains, arrayed in rick silks and fine brocade. Even thus; and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris.” Quran 44:51-54

“On that day [the unbelievers] shall be sternly thrown into the fire of Hell . . . But in fair gardens the righteous shall dwell in bliss, rejoicing in what their Lord will give them. Their Lord will shield them from the scourge of Hell. He will say: Eat and drink to your hearts content. This is the reward of your labours.

“They shall recline on couches ranged in rows. To dark-eyed houris [virgin girls] We shall wed them. . . . Fruit We shall give them, and such meats as they desire. They will pass from hand to hand a cup inspiring no idle talk, no sinful urge; and there shall wait on them young boys of their own, as fair as virgin pearls.” Quran 52:13-24

“Reclining there upon soft couches, they shall feel neither the scorching heat nor the biting cold. Trees will spread their shade around them, and fruits will hang in clusters over them.

“They shall be served with silver dishes, and beakers as large as goblets; silver goblets which they themselves shall measure: and cups brim-full with ginger-flavoured water from a fount called Salsabil. They shall be attended by boys graced with eternal youth, who to the beholders eyes will seem like sprinkled pearls. When you gave upon that scene, you will behold a kingdom blissful and glorious.” Quran 76:9-20

[b]Quotes from the Hadiths or Records of Mohammed’s Deeds and Words[/b]

“The Prophet…said: I am commanded to fight with men till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is His servant and His apostle, face our qiblah (direction of prayer), eat what we slaughter, and pray like us.” Sunan Abu Dawud 14.2635

“…the Apostle of Allah [said]: He who goes forth in Allah’s path and dies or is killed is a martyr…and will go to Paradise.” Sunan Abu Dawud 14.2493

“The Prophet…said: Our Lord Most High is pleased with a man who fights in the path of Allah…” Sunan Abu Dawud 14.2530

“Allah’s Apostle [Muhammad] said, ‘I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand.'” Sahih Bukhari 4.52.220

“The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives.” Sahih Bukhari 7.62.6

“The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with ‘Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).” Sahih Bukhari 7.62.88, 7.62.64

“Once Allah’s Apostle went out to [offer the prayer]… Then he passed by the women and said, ‘O women! Give alms, as I have seen that [b]the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)[/b].’ They asked, ‘Why is it so, O Allah’s Apostle?’ He replied, ‘You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.’ The women asked, ‘O Allah’s Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?’ He said, ‘[b]Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?[/b]’ They replied in the affirmative. He said, ‘This is the deficiency in her intelligence.'” Sahih Bukhari 1.6.301

It’s okHey Acharya,Really I’m not ranting! All I’m saying is just put your guard down a bit and try to accept people for who they really are! So if u want to take a trip around the world one day u won’t cuz many countries that u will visit happen to believe and follow religions or doctrines that u disagree with?

Acharya my point is in the end does it really matter? The right thing to do bottom line is to spread peace, and love and learn to understand. Fear and ignorance is what creates evil and spreads hate. There is good and bad everywhere! Perfect doesn’t exist.

I guarantee if u and I were to have coffee someday, you might disagree with my beliefs and views but u might just like me as a person! That’s what counts!

Take it easy were all gonna die someday so what’s the point in living in hate and fear. I’m just as Canadian as everyone else I love everything about my country and it’s people no matter what race,religion, etc!

What we all need to stop is ignorance, and fear and that way hate will not exist…its all one big misunderstanding. Some people see things for what they r, others don’t want to because they r so biased, some just can’t and won’t understand, and so on. That’s y I always say accept, embrace and try to learn and understand and go deeper. Otherwise…..ur just not going to really understand and remain in ur shell of ignorance.

I dunno about u but I have Jewish friends, Christians, Sikhs, atheists etc….no problem with me!

And here you are again with all sorts of mischaracterizations of my person. Your condescension is once again noted. Most of what you have said here is simply a reflection of your own psyche: Hatred, ignorance, etc. – that’s what [i]you [/i]seem to see everywhere.

That being said, do you really not [i]hate [/i]the ideas represented here by MUSLIM spokesmen ([url]http://islamreality.wordpress.com[/url])? Or are you [i]ignorant [/i]of these ideas, which so permeate the Muslim world?

As concerns the rest of your puerile lecture, I’ve been hanging around the “kumbaya” crowd since probably decades before you were born. I’ve lived in major cities in a number of countries, and I’ve been friends with people from all walks of life. In this regard, I read, write and/or speak multiple languages and have traveled around in various countries, meeting all sorts of individuals of practically every culture.

Some of the individuals I met and spoke with didn’t even know any other language and had never spoken to a foreigner before. One such individual – and old Greek man who had lived through the Nazi occupation of his island of Crete – actually wept when I spoke to him in Greek, because he had been completely isolated from the rest of the world. My going out of the way to address him in Greek provided him tremendous relief.

In addition to my many ex-Muslim friends who are exposing Islamic fanaticism, one of my friends is an ex-radical Muslim whose articles are posted on THIS very blog – a fact you would know if you actually knew who you were addressing.

Perhaps you should take your own advice and try to understand why people don’t like Islam, instead of making condescending and derogatory remarks about individuals whom you don’t know in the least?

That type of behavior is pretty much the reason many don’t like Islam, in fact, as it seems to create very arrogant and obnoxious people – who eventually become violent when they don’t get their way.

If we can get along just fine by ignoring everyone’s beliefs, then please just toss your beliefs out. If you are so readily able to ignore or toss out these beliefs, then there was no need for you to defend them in the first place by making one derogatory remark and insinuation after another on my blog.

Please, just throw away your conditioning that separates you from the rest of humanity – at that point, you are correct, we can get along just fine.

Wow Asharia I’m impressed you know some staff about the quran, you only wrote the strict verses and you neglected the countless merciful verses in the Quran, i can say to is read this verse that you already quoted“The unbelievers among the People of the Book [Bible, tora] and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.” Quran 98:6

My advise don’t take a chance and be an unbeliever because in this verse god or your creator promises you hell fire for ever, and called you the vilest of all creaters. I would look further in the Quran and try to understand it more and not take a foolish risk. Think of it this way if religions are fals then I shouldn’t worry because there is no god to hold me accountable but if god exists then there is a trial and I’m sure you don’t want to labeled as an unbeliever in that trial because you know very well the consequences and guess what my dear I will be a witness in that trial against you in that trial saying that you heard about the Quran and denied the god’s message.

It doesn’t matterAcharya it’s all good, u can believe what you want and I believe what I believe to each his own, I am not condemning u at all I mean hey we both agree to disagree! I will not think less of you as a person cuz it just doesn’t matter and I’m really being sincere and not condescending at all, I don’t know y u say that?

It’s amazing the experiences you have had and the people you have seen and I would love ti have such an experience someday!

Everyone does what makes them comfortable and happy and I firmly believe that if a person is happy following a certain idea or belief and it makes them a better person then hey…that’s great!

There will always be evil and corrupt messed up people in this world following crazy ideologies or twisting these ideologies that were meant to spread goodness in our world and there will always be biased people and there are also genuinely good people who are also following certain ideologies and atheists!

That’s just my opinion, you don’t have to like it or agree to it and I don’t have to agree to urs either but we can still get along and respect each other and love-each other regardless!

That’s it. I really don’t have much more to say, I apologize if I have offended u I didn’t mean to and I’m certainly not imposing anything onto you either, everyone is free to believe and think what he/she pleases the most important thing is that no one gets hurt in the process and no hatred is spread by doing so.

Oh and your last note on my being conditioned, if you read my post you would have noticed that I mentioned that my parents were against my wearing the scarf, and I chose the person I am married to and my parents were against my getting married cuz they wanted me to focus on education instead. And yes I am educated studied Architecture, my husband didn’t stop me or forbid me etc. All my choices were mine completely! No conditioning involved!

Dear sir, How are doing to day, what,s difference between you and Islamic extremist(not Muslims) thinking? in one side you said,that your are demotic and Liberal person, other side you stop the people to follow their religious laws, (extremist force the people by arm’s ) and you force the people to go away from your country ,that’s human being, you know that the people are coming your country for better future prospects.you think about it.thanks..

I agreeI agree , you can’t expect to go to another country and live not by their laws and rules. Check these laws, rules , religion before you leave your country. Then decide what is best . It’s seems to me you would not be leaving your own land if it wasn’t so bad. Think about it!

TiredSo tired of religion being the tool for so much haters . Make me question what Gods purpose was if these haters were the one he wanted to spread the word of God. If this is the case then I don’t want to be a part of any religion or religions group. I keep my fate in myself in treating everyone with respect, love, no matter who they are. Black, White, Muslim, Asia, Gay, Etc. Life is good when you think this way I promise you that.

truethank you for stating this but i don’t understand why this article got thumbs down.muslims aren’t monsters you think we are. just so you know, that violence and terrorism you believe we worship is actually we all hate and we are trying to remove it in the arab countries. i should know since i have been living there 3 years. we muslims in canada are people like you guys. we don’t want any trouble we just want acceptance and respect like and normal human being.is that so much to ask for?true there will be some who will try to force the religion on you but don’t blame a whole religion just because of a few people.i am currently in an arab country and beleive me not one person agrees with abuse or terrorism but sadly its the reputation we have gotten due to a few incidence over the years but really people no country,religion or culture is perfect so why blame the muslims for everything that goes wrong? i have lived in canada for 13 yrs i have never seen the slightest of racism towards me but i want to understand, if somebody personly offended you don’t take it out on their whole country because even yo non-muslims aren’t perfect at everything.we are tired of being printed the bad guys because of things that are not in our control

Hi there, fellow human being. Did you know that over 20,000 human beings have been killed since 9/11 by Islamic supremacists. That personally offends me so if you’re tired of being printed the bad guys, tell your faithful brothers to stop BEING the bad guys.

The media is full of sh*t most of the time with their spin, especially with their cowardice about not challenging tolerant muslims to step up to the plate and root out the rapists and murderers and wife beaters in their communities who commit their crimes in the name of Islam.

It’s not enough to make up half hearted excuses. It’s not like the media are fabricating all this stuff up out of thin air, even though they spin it every which way but the true direction.

Given what your murderous spiritual brothers have done and given that they relentlessly keep threatening to do more of it, and given the fact that none of your leaders have acknowledged the evil without excuses, lies and deflection, it’s amazing that the media are treating you all so lightly and not calling for your mass removal from the entire continent.

One of the main reasons for this is that we just finished paying off the Japanese for mass-internment of those Japanese living here during the Second World War, so we have a guilt trip about racism.

Is Canada the second victorious country in all of history since the Marshall Plan to pay war reparations to the relatives of their enemies instead of extracting reparations from the evil totalitarian bunch of god damned losers they defeated?

Mighty bloody sporting of us, eh?

We Canadians forget that, however poorly that may have been handled at the time (under duress in wartime) it was a very rational response to the threat of irrational Totalitarian racist supremacy. Yes, we were quite overtly racist at the time by our own modern standards of today, but not nearly to the genocidal degree as the supreme racist forces of the Axis powers with which Islam has so much in common.

Please note that these Japanese racists were a pseudo-Shinto-quasi-Emperor worshipping state religion. They were not Buddhists who were running the show, Buddhists had little say in anything at that point except murmuring silent lip service.

So, how many of our fellow human beings have the Buddhists killed since 9/11? Maybe a few in Tibet in self-defense against the murderous totalitarian thugs of China who would have the world believe that the Dalai Lama is a terrorist and that Kim-Jong-Un is a legitimate head of state.

Okay, I know what response is coming next, but, please spare us the Islamic lies about the Buddhists of Myanmar killing the muslim minority there. Those generals who run that hell-hole country are not Buddhists, they are an oligarchy of fascistic totalitarians. That they are not Islamic is rather singular in the post Cold War world. The only other non-Islamic nations that have such totally unfree societies today are China and North Korea. Republicans would include Cuba and their Tea Party would include Europe and Canada, but they would be wrong. However, Africa has become largely a wasteland thanks to Islam and extremist Christian missionaries as well as the endless recycling of Black supremacist dictators. It is a continent of mainly failed states and rogue states.

If you want to be neighbours with non-muslims, you should stop making excuses for your spiritual brothers who keep killing us and gang raping our women if we don’t follow YOUR standards.

Instead of that, try this. Report people who keep talking about killing the infidel to the police. They’ll kill you too by the way, if they decide you’re not quite muslim enough, and they’ll do it in a very brutal fashion.

So, yeah sure nice try with the Arab spring and all that but too many beautiful flowers withered and died in the blistering Arab summer and now the free world is tired of enduring the long and exceedingly bloody winter of your discontent.

one way outi’ve read all the posts.and as i can see it the vast vast majority of white christian democrats,can see what is coming and has started to come from the islamic world.why are we in the west waiting for the war for our civilisations survival.we need to remove every muslim from the west to a place where they can worship their “god” as they wish.this means we’d have no fifth columists in the west….i’m looking at you barack obama,and if they did anything untoward we could retaliate.the muslim professor who made the statement at the beginning,well muslims are told in the koran it is ok to lie to further islam.so i’m treating his comments with a pinch of salt.the west without muslims would be like heaven…lets go for it…

Music and IslamHi allI am a Muslim, a migrant and a musician. First, I would like to appreciate the welcoming of the Canadians; Australians and all the countries, who have recently hosted migrants from allover the world. It really shows the sympathy of the whiterace in specific, however, a bit of empathy would have resonate the harmony to a beautiful cadenza. The issue of music and religion is not exclusive for Muslims. It seems to be arises from the nature of humans and their differ-ent ways of thinking; an ongoing debate between dogmatic believe, extremism and intolerance, against cognitive thinking, tolerance and moderate understanding of religion. An example for that, the Jehovah witnesses; the Puritans and Calvinists, who condemn secular music.Let me tell you a bit of what Qur’an says about prohibited things in general: Say: The things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret: sins and trespass-es against truth or reason; assigning of partners to God, for which He hath given no authority; And Saying things about God of which ye have no knowledge. (Qur’an 7: 33). “Say: Who hath forbidden?the beautiful (gifts) of God, which he hath produced?for His servants,?and the things, clean and pure (which he hath provided) for sustenance? Say: They are in the life of this world, for those who believe, (and) pure-ly for them on the Day?Of Judgment. Thus do we explain the signs in detail for those who understand (Qur’an 7: 32 ).Al Qaradawi, one of the contemporary Muslim scholars, explains the lawful and unlawful in Islam. He states: “In Islam good is halal and bad is haram. This principle is also supported by this verse in Qur’an: “He enjoins on them that which is right and for-bids them which is wrong, and makes lawful for them all good things and prohibits for them only the foul” (Qur’an VIII: 157). Finally, most of the Muslims, who take the religion harshly, they can’t handle it. Our prophet Mohamed said “This religion is easy. No one becomes harsh and strict in the religion without it overwhelming him. So fulfil your duties as best you can and rejoice” . This hadith is clearly promoting the concept of moderation in the proper Islamic context

Brave or Obliged? Muslims teachers in Canada hardly teach Muslim students and teach mostly Christians, I have been trying to get formal education in Ontario and have been denied over and over again and yet this is suppose to be my homeland, I notice that our majority rewards immigrants, especially those who suck up to them and say make descriminating statements about people’s faith, they are cowards and I am brave i don’t have to fear my majority or feel obliged to be living in Canada, they can keep me uneducated for life still i will self educate but i know in a Muslim country i would have obtain my Masters by now rather then begging these christian to be enrolled for a messily two year college diploma in Ontario, Canada. As far this so called brave immigrant, he can go back to his homeland instead living here and making foolish statements about sharia although we do need Muslim educators part of Muslim colleges and universities because christian keep many Muslims Canadian born citizens back, they did not educate me, America did, Muslims educators or doctors serve our majority, while immigrants over take the “visible minority” quota and we get nothing, in fact we are misrepresented by our majority by these Muslim immigrants who our majority like to exploit as the poster child for Canadian Muslims. I do not know what goes on in Winnipeg but i do know many of these migrants are full of it as are our majority and educational system.

Come on Abdul!Abdul you should be a poster boy for what’s wrong with immigrants! I am astounded by your comments; “Muslims teachers in Canada hardly teach Muslim students and teach mostly Christians… I have been trying to get formal education in Ontario and have been denied over and over again” – who are you trying to fool? Education in Ontario, indeed all throughout Canada, is open and accessible to all! No student who wants to succeed is held back. Even students with bona fide disabilities have tremendous opportunities to gain a higher education.

And why is it surprising to you that Muslim teachers are teaching mostly Christian students? This country was founded by Christian immigrants and the majority of students in Canada are Christian. But our public school system is not based on religion anyway; it is based on knowledge – as it should be – knowledge that is freely taught to all students regardless of a person’s religious beliefs. Whenever religion gets into education it is all about control of knowledge; not about teaching or sharing such knowledge freely and openly as it should be. Shame on your comments, Abdul!

If you have been having trouble in school I wonder if it may have to do with your poor command of English? I mean no disrespect but I did have to read your comments several times to try to understand what you were trying to say. Do you speak/write in French? If so and it is even marginally better than your English then I suggest you try attending a French post-secondary institution. Another option would be to avail yourself of the many and free government sponsored courses to master either one of our two official languages. However, I really fear that nothing is going to help you until you do something about what’s really holding you back from gaining a higher education in Ontario – or anywhere else for that matter – and that is YOUR ATTITUDE and your woeful misconceptions about this society.

I mean come-on Abdul! Look at your own words: “…, I notice that our majority rewards immigrants, especially those who suck up to them and say make descriminating statements about people’s faith, they are cowards and I am brave i don’t have to fear my majority or feel obliged to be living in Canada”. What are you even trying to say with these completely unfounded and senseless words? I assume you are calling Professor Kanwar’s comments about sharia law discriminating? He is a Muslim like you. But more importantly, he is a Canadian; and he is obviously very grateful to be one; to be able to take advantage of the rich and varied opportunities to make a decent and rewarding life for himself in Canada. His appreciation for the Canadian way of life is obvious while your disdain for us is equally and blatantly clear. The message Professor Kanwar is really delivering is one that is as ancient as it is wise: “When in Rome do as the Romans do!”

Tell me, what do Muslims think will be gained by having Sharia law anyway? And think about this question: throughout the Muslim world you have had varying degrees of Sharia law and to what end? The situation in so many of your countries says it all: a much lower standard of living; little or no personal liberties; strict fundamentalist religious control over most if not all of your personal lives; poverty; war and strife everywhere; many Muslim peoples cannot even get along with their own kind! No wonder so many Muslims want to come to Canada – to escape as Professor Kanwar puts it: “the Hellholes” that you all have come from. And so you come here…

The lunacy really strikes home though when some of you arrive and then try to transplant your root cultures into Canada. The first thing you want to do is to transplant the tyranny, the religious control; your petty tribal and racial prejudices, customs and beliefs into Canadian society; the very things that have so ruined life in many of your ancestral nations. To me, and many, many other Canadians I can assure you, this is nothing short of absurd. Furthermore, there is no place in a free and democratic society for such heinous beliefs and practices as honour killings; chopping off limbs; subjugation of women; forcing women and girls to hide their faces; genital mutilation or other aspects of Sharia law to name just a few. The Canadian people will no longer stand by and let ungrateful, deluded immigrants like yourself set about to destroy the wonderful nation that we have built over so many generations and which is obviously so attractive to peoples all over the world as a place to emigrate to and make a better life for themselves then they can in the countries of their birth.

So yeah Abdul … if you so don’t like it here and want Sharia law; think that a Muslim country would be better for you then by all means leave. Nobody is stopping you. Indeed, please also feel free to find and encourage like-minded people to join you. This will be better for you and better for the rest of Canada. Or maybe you could just try to wake up and see beyond the end of your nose and perhaps then you too could discover and enjoy all the benefits that Canada has to offer.

Hi Dalia,[quote][b]”First rule about Islam, never bother the people around you!! They must never feel bothered by you!! You need to be concentrated when you pray, at home not in the streets!!”[/b][/quote]I’d like to know where this first rule and the rest of your quote above is in the Koran so we can let all the extremist muslims know. Would you please provide the source citations for that?

Just a quick commentI read all the comments, very interesting topic. I am a muslim, my family moved to Canada when I was 9 months old. My dad is Palestinian and we all had “Palestinian Travelling Document” which is served as a Passport and we were tossed around by all the Arabic countries not wanting to recognize us. Not even gicing us a Passport even though my mom was Lebanese, even Lebanon refused us!! Thank God they did because Canada took us in. They welcomed us, and taught us and gave us health care and a PASSPORT!! Now when we travel to Middle Eastern countries we are respected! All this to say, Canada is so pure and clean and fair. We came to Canada and my parents said as Muslims we need to respect this country who took us in! In school I had Christian lessons (1990) and my mom said to be a Muslim you need to understand and learn about ALL religions! I took gym and when I found excuses not to do it because I was too lazy my mom pushed me! She even pushed me to take music lessons so I can learn about life and music. She always said Islam is all about learning and understanding! I personally respect if any women wanna wear a hijab (but not burqa). But this praying in the streets is nonsense. First rule about Islam, never bother the people around you!! They must never feel bothered by you!! You need to be concentrated when you pray, at home not in the streets!! My parents raised me the right Muslim way which is respect others no matter their religion or nationality the same way you would like to be treated. And that’s what I did and trust me deep inside I am more pure than anyone. True Islam is beautiful just like all religions, these extremist psychos are the problem which represent 10% of our religion but somehow piss me off more!!

As a muslim, I completely agree with this man. I live in the Caribbean and thank god we dont have the sharia law here. Muslim immigrants and muslims from the middle east are the biggest hypocrites while only a few are normal. I have to say England has it really bad. These muslim immigrats chose to migrate to developed countries yet they expect to continue their backward practices of forced marriages, honor killings etc. They demand respect whether it be in religious tolerance, wearing hijab or burka, praying in large groups in public places and having the audacity to limit living areas to only muslims (note they dont own the street or the community). These Muslims chose not to understand that we live in a world with different religions, ethnic groups and cultures. They want people to respect them yet they have no respect for the culture and religion of others. They want to live in developed countries and reap the benefits offered to them yet if one is to travel to a Middle Eastern country they ban you from practicing your religion, drinking and dressing how you want. One such example is the Maldives where one of their laws state that if caught practising any religion other than islam one would be arrested. the adactitiy of these people. Imagine in when England had the riots, there was a group of muslims protesting calling non muslims infidels and how gays should be killed. These people must be mad and why are they still allowed to live in England. There should be a complete ban on these muslims from immigrating to developed countries especially when they what to make demands from the adopted country and feel they are always being discriminated. I tell you if these people what to continue their backward uneducated ways then go back to the country they came from. It is people like them who make it harder for those muslims who dont believe in sharia law who may want to migtrate. Also imagine when a non muslim converts to islam they feel proud but if a muslim converts to another religion they prosecute that person. What gives these ppl the right to believe and tell others that Islam is the true religion. As a muslim, my mom is a hindu, my dad a muslim and i attended a convent during secondary school. I am happy to say I my family participates in both religious aspects and while at school I attend mass regularly. How many muslims can say they have done these things without critizing and disrespecting people who dont follow islam. Even muslims prosecute their own. I like sufi muslims they believe and respect all others yet these muslims call sufis not true muslims and destroy the mosques and art of sufis. Another thing that is so crazy, if the us troops in the middle east accidently burn a mosque oh these muslims in all their outrage say oh the US desecrating the quran yet these same extremist muslims have burnt numerous mosques in Saudi, Afganistand and Iran which also contain copies of quran. Basically if they do it nothing wrong there but is non muslims do it all hell breaks loose. What gives these people the right when theyy have no respect.

At last, the second voice I’ve ever heard from a muslim who comes right out and tell’s it like it is without all the lies and excuses and arrogant disrespect, all the while pleading for our tolerance when they have none. The first voice I ever heard was this professor we’re talking about.

Thank you immensely, Siddiqua, for your honesty. You can come to Canada, anytime.

Dalia’s mom is so right. It’s not just about religion but having good moral values, being able to interact and learn from each other but these fundamental muslims feel they are the most moral when they are not. My problem is why do they always justify their actions by comparing to what some non muslims may have done e.g if a muslim girl is raped there is no justice for her as the islamic law states she must have 4 witnesses and she cant testify why because these supposed islamic scholars say women dont know their own mind and are forgetful. If a girl is raped in the US/UK at least she will receive justice. Also why do muslim women who wear hijab feel they are more religious than a muslim girl who do not wear hijab when both girls dress modestly and have good values. Just goes to show u the double standard and the fact of the matter is in these Islamic Countries why must they deny the wrong things they do and justify these wrong doings at the same time.

PLEASE TELL ME WHICH COUNTRY ARE WE?I am curious, because we must be either Chinese/Canadians or Indo/ Canadian or African/Canadian or French/Canadian or Now Muslem/Canadian. To Me this is the very first or the Start of our problems. Were the heck are we? It started at the top with the despiration of our ” VOTE GETTERS! ” If we open the doors they will vote for us. Then we will give them their designation as ?/Canadians. WE ARE CANADIANS FIRST AND FORMOST!!!!Then you can be whatever is next but NOT designated. We will know where you are from once you tell us. Then we will call you a Canadian Period!!

Let Canada be CanadaRemember all, it hasnt been that long since women had the rights they do in Canada. We can not let our hard work be distroyed by immigration and those men that come to Canada and do not want to respect womens rights in Canada. It is offensive to see a women covered up and not alowed to show her face in public. It represents something of the past when women although not to that extreme but did not have as much rights as they do now. When muslim men open up a business and when chinese men and women open up a business they usually segregate to their own nationality and its wrong… Look how many chinese real estate agents that cater to chinese or plazas that are primary chinese.. Cmon now people, lets stand up for Canada – multi culturism should work both ways, all people are equal. Practice that and the racism and discrimination will stop. Remember that there are good and bad people in all colours, all nationalities and from all countries, in every city, every country and everywhere… A person makes a person so lets all just stop the nonsence and let Canada be Canada

Canadians taking it up the a##Multicultralism is a failure does not work especially when you only bring third world people in are goverment is destroying the country it’s about time we get it back.If you change a countries ethnic make up fast it will destroy it. I am in my mid 40s and since the mid 70s it’s been going down hill but nobody seems to care wake up people we have enough people in Canada their countries are third world for a reason bring more here will do the same wake up people and smell the coffee please you can’t all be stupid.From my observations asians live in one area same as muslims they want nothing to do with us if you had a rude guest in your house who behaved like that you would throw them out. The housing prices go up more demand jobs are harder to find immagration cost millions health care gets worse do not let the goverment fool you saying there’s a shortage of workers i know lots of people looking for work who where born here and are patrotic and can’t find work. I also know a african who just got here can’t hardly speak english makes 20 a hr after being here a week . It breaks my heart how these goverment arogant sons of the priviliged are f ing up are country are grandfathers who fought in the wars and sacraficed for us must be turning in their graves stand up people lets take are country back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

re: I totally agree with you. I even wrote to justin trudeau and asked him to stop immigration and to end multiculturalism, there was of course no response. Pretty rich white boy has no idea the harm his father has done to canada, to our values, our life, our safety, womens rights, must I go on,………..the state of unemployment is largely due to massive immigration which is killing us and driving up taxes and rents and housing prices…..

to the bigot NancyNancy, your religion is one of the most insane and immoral that has ever been created. Your attitude is complete bigotry, so heres a taste of your own medicine. I’m sure you haven’t done any research on your own religion you just believe it blindly without looking into any of it so i’ll “enlighten” you. First off there NEVER was a messiah named jesus christ. The name jesus is the latin translation of Isous (which in greek meant “hail zeus”) the greeks didn’t want to let go of their “pagan” beliefs and didn’t want to use the hebrew name Yeshua(which in hebrew meant “to rescue” or “deliver”) Christ comes from the greek word Christos(meaning “the anointed one”) which is the greek translation of the name Krishna. Your religion is a bastardization and amalgamation of older religions and has been used to justify such wonderful events such as the inquisition, the crusades, various historical witch hunts, and a plethora of other atrocities. If you genuinely believe that your religion is the only moral code of ethics or that it is even moral at all you should really read your bible(which ever current revision of which you ascribe to) here are a list of bible passages that demonstrate how immoral and insane you religion is Exodus 22:17, Leviticus 20:13, Leviticus 20:27,Exodus 21:15,Leviticus 20:9,Leviticus 21:9,2 Chronicles 15:12-13, Zechariah 13:3,Deuteronomy 13:13-19, Deuteronomy 17:2-5, Leviticus 24:10-16,Exodus 31:12-15,Numbers 1:48-51, Romans 1:24-32. have fun looking all of the passages up and burn in your non-existant hell for trying to live by those rules. Anyone in their right mind can see that hell and heaven are complete fabrications and tools of social manipulation that any child psychologist would realize is akin to Santa claws(being the modern materialist version of the tool of manipulation through guilt) People like you never actually read your bible or if you have you just pick and choose sections that ARE moral and disregard the rest or try to rationalize by saying that the laws of the old testament no longer apply to those who follow the new testament when “Jesus” said that they clearly do see Matthew 5:18-19, Luke 16:17, Mark 7:10. SO next time you say that secularists are scum you should realize your a complete hypocrite, a bigoted piece of sh*t, who’s very faith is nothing more than a shield for your ignorance and you’ll die and rot in the ground just like everyone else and your beliefs won’t lead you to an everlasting bliss while those who didn’t believe by choice or circumstance are burning forever in hellfire. If you could add up all of the murders, rapes, and other atrocities committed by your religion or any religion for that matter and compared it with those committed by atheists you would see how very very wrong you are.

I will die to protect my white cultureI am a canadian whose family came in 1630. I also have other canadian friends and we all feel the same. Here goes! In the last 30 years we have seen the destruction of our race and canadian culture and values and our womens rights are going down every day. Alot of these culture are not becoming canadian (and we all know what that is). We are very fedup with the fact that we are not being hired. We cannot celebrate our holidays. ALot of foreigners are rude to us and have an attitude. There are gangs in our streets w hen we had none before. Its not safe to go outside. Our elderly people are treated like trash by these foreign infestations. We the canadian women are uniting and we will fight to protect our culture, values, chrisitian lifestyle and way of life. We will not be supressed under multicultural lies! We are the first settlers (at least my family is ) and we s hould have first priority it should not go to immigrants who do not like us, do not respect us and do not deserve all that canada gives them. If any man approaches us and tries to sexual harass us watch out! You will be charged instantly!Alot of these men are arab, moslem,and some are from black countries. Our own men know better and would not dare to even try sexual h arassment on us!!!!!!!!

‘New Canadians’ ???I agree completely with this gentleman. As an immigrant myself since 1957, I had to make some sacrifices and adjustments without any help at all back then. I did so willingly because I chose to be here.I am disgusted with these people who think everyone should cater to their every wish. Even more so with our elected officials who condone this behaviour.I just wish there were more people like this gentleman with enough backbone to speak his mind.

too manythe problem is that you muslims think your religion is the best in the world when its not, there are other religions which are way older than yours and those people don’t behave like you muslims. You muslims come to this country and have 5 to 10 children per family and live off the child benefits (our tax dollars) without going to work. and you guys are so lazy to go to work. All you muslims think about is how to spread your religion and how to take over this country. THIS HAS TO STOP AT ANY COST.

Academia or attackademia? What is Kanwar teaching?Academia or Attackademia? What is Kanwar teaching?

Prof. Kanwar should first look to his own house and teach justice towards women to his children. His youngest son, known to his father to be a womanizer, a Canadian born male was taught by Kanwar to see women as sex objects rather than people to be respected. Kanwar knowingly endorses his son’s promiscuities. Kanwar Jr. having lived a highly deviant, criminal an misogynistic lifestyle, through his man-handling of women, adultery in his failed marriage, and verbally and physically abusive nature towards women is something that was condoned, encouraged, and taught by Kanwar Sr. to his son as part of his “liberal Muslim” upbringing.

Prof. Kanwar’s convoluted interpretation of Islam is nothing but his own hypocritical opinion. Kanwar Sr. becoming a single father of 3 after his failed marriage, raised his children as the perfect example of an unstable misogynistic womanizer, treating women as objectified pieces of property. His desire to negate or deny the freedoms and justice Islam provides for women through rituals such as the strictly autonomous choice of Muslim women to dress modestly through hijab in order to gain control over the perverse GAZE of men such as Kanwar and son, is one of the main reasons why Prof. Kanwar speaks out against the Muslim modesty, personal ownership of ones sexuality through “covering” via hijab, a lifestyle of choice which some Muslim men and women choose to follow.

Kanwars are womanizers and wish to denigrate Islam’s true elevated and respectable position of woman, so that men like them can dehumanize women by objectifying them, accomplishing nothing rather succeeding in perpetuating the mainstream media’s image of the “ideal woman” in the West as plastic surgeriied, botoxed inscure shadows of truly powerful women. Kanwars are happy to point fingers at Islam, when rather they should address their own backward opinions of women, perpetuating the psychological brainwashing of to stripe them of their right to “cover” , whilst pertending to actually bestows upon them a state of so-called Westerm emancipation or liberation of the Oppressed Excostic Muslim Woman. No thank you Prof. Kanwar and son, we don’t need men to undress us, and “save us”. Let the Muslim Woman speak for herself. Male dominated Muslim, Christian, Jewish or Secular inheraintaly mainfest absuses against women through the world, not because they are govered by any such religious beliefs, but rather because they are governed by masogenistic men in power, like Kanwar.

Kanwar is a Cultural traitor and a make-shift vigilanty for a gender and religion he does not belong to. By rejecting the beauty of his heritage, instead of attacking the huMAN abuses by MEN against WOMEN, he minimalizes the very serious global problem of female mistreatment. Second to which, he is a traitor to the very basic foundation of the Canadian Identity which delegates the importance and esteemed worth of our internationally respected image as the most beautiful multicultural country in the world – founded in the tenants that emphasis the beauty of living freely amongst one another with profound differences in appearance and belief. Sadly, Kanwar wishes to strip Canada of that which is most precious to us as a family of people, our invaluable secular society which has succeeded in the face of innumerable divided fighting nations who are unable to live in peace as many religions and many cultures, Canada succeeded in establishing the beauty of the first peaceful multicultural culture respected identity globally praised to be that of a Canadian.

Prof. Kanwar, please take an intellectual and educated approach to your discourse, rather than infecting the minds of your young, naive and eager students with your hate-speech, tainted with personal bias opinions based on your own negative life experiences. Kindly honour the status bestowed upon you as an educational leader and speak with historical, factually backed and scripturally sound and quoted references in your dialogues and debates, not a with a hot-headed hate filled tongue.

Academia is the platform upon which you stand, which in of itself demands the mutually respectable discourse of differing thoughts, without the trash talking of street fighting and dark alley bullying. We don’t need you to fight our battles for us. Lets use words of wisdom and respect, not macho muscle tactics Mr. Kanwar.

So, in order to object to supposed “hate speech” directed at violent individuals, you attack this professor personally with hate speech. Who put together that little screed defaming this professor’s character? A radical Islamist group of the ilk he’s criticizing? What a surprise!

Perhaps Kanwar is objecting to Islamic fanaticism because IT taught his son to hate women?

And perhaps you should get [i]your own house [/i]in order, supposedly as a woman and yet defending the very fanaticism that detests your gender:

WOMEN IN THE KORAN ([url]http://truthbeknown.com/islamquotes.htm[/url])

“They ask you about menstruation. Say: ‘It is an indisposition. Keep aloof from women during their menstrual periods and do not approach them until they are clean again; when they are clean, have intercourse with them whence God enjoined you….'” Quran 2:222

“Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and forsake them in beds apart, and beat them.” Quran 4:34

“A male shall inherit twice as much as a female.” Quran 4:11

“Call in two male witnesses from among you, but if two men cannot be found, then one man and two women whom you judge fit to act as witnesses…” Quran 2:282

“[Forbidden to you are] married women, except those whom you own as slaves.” Quran 4:24

SUMMARY OF KORANIC QUOTES REGARDING WOMEN

Menstruating women are unclean, and men must stay away from them. Women are men’s “fields,” and men can have sex with them whenever they want. Men are superior to women and have authority over them, while women must obey men or risk being beaten. A woman is worth one-half of a man. Muslim men can own sex slaves.

Why is the Canadian Muslim Woman’s Voice allowed in this country? We must get them out of here immediately. Are my fellow tolerant Canadians not getting what these fascistic haters of our country and our culture are saying?

These people are far worse than the Aryan Nations ever dreamed of being. I fought against those neo-Nazis back in the 1980s before being a skinhead was fashionable. I had their would-be Hitler Terry Long spit in my face for carrying a sign asking him what his Final Solution to the Jews would be.

Well, those fascists were nothing compared to this Islamo-fascism. There were merely dozens of them for all the vile noise they made. Maybe a couple of hundred down in Idaho. There are already millions of Islamo-fascists already living here in North America and tens of millions of them living in Europe bragging that it will be entirely Islamic in twenty years, which it will be if they don’t eradicate Sharia Law from the continent immediately.

I’m not talking about “sleeper cells” and stupid stuff like that leftover from the Cold War. That’s what Bush and the dumb-ass Neo-Con artists were talking about after 9/11 (for their own evil purposes).

Radical Islam does not need spies hiding out like in some James Bond movie. They’ve got their own secret weapon. It’s their demand that we accommodate their absolutely inflexible totalitarian ideology into our society and if we don’t, we’ve insulted Mohammed and must be killed. These people need to be in Iran, in prison, or six feet underground like the Great Tamerlane, not tolerated as our welcome neighbours.

I’m talking about the people who practice everything which is written in the Quran. They don’t need to take orders from any kind of a command structure when they take this hate literature so literally.

Incidentally, the innocuous sounding Canadian Muslim Women’s Voice may have some articulate women speakers, but you can bet your life there were no women editing the script. And if we don’t do something about it really soon, you can bet your life again.

All this may be true … but do you agree or disagree that when we come to a country to gain citizenship should we really expect them to change for us? Would the country we came from do as much? Religion (any one’s) should be for a person’s personal life only. It should not impact a way a country tends to it’s business or runs it’s government. Separation of religion and state is there for a reason. To tell the truth the extreme Muslin’s remind me of the Christian Crusades which were carried out in much the same way. It was wrong then and continues to be wrong today. Seems to me the extreme Muslin’s seem to still think and act like they are still that day and age … that day and age was a black time and in my opinion it should be fought whatever way possible to keep it from coming to the front ever again.

“Invading” migrant mentalityThe disturbing thing about some newly migrating Muslims across the world that is not Muslim dominated is simply put, their mindset of transplanting whatever they have and not integrating (or outright refusal to integrate properly) into their host country. Give enough time and enough of these new migrants clump in one place, they will start acting as a group demanding their culture, beliefs, and whatever ‘law’ their culture is associated with be respected despite existing laws of the land they live in.

Carrying some of the good things about their culture and spreading it into their host country is good – that’s good cultural exchange and enriching lives in their new country, but demanding they want to live in their old ways in their new country, and given enough time, eventually demand others live their way of life in a radical way is a DEFINITE NO-NO. Typically, Muslim communities that have a number of conservative members keep to themselves, and if you look at things from a national perspective, they unfortunately seem to act like social parasites with their refusal or inability to integrate. Being a little general here, and I’m sure a number of moderate Muslims don’t fall under this.

To me, regardless of your religion, if you’re a new migrant, go migrate, and integrate. You left your homeland for a better life, and it won’t be easy – so to crudely put it – embrace the fact, and suck it. If you need help integrating, seek it. There are a number of support systems in place such as NGOs and volunteer groups. The Canadian system is not socially backwards unlike (probably) the country you left and shouldn’t be discriminating. You are still free to worship your own religion provided it does not break Canadian laws, which are pretty reasonable. Don’t abuse the freedom you enjoy to further your own or your own belief’s end at the peril of others, and this is modern times – you migrate not to divide and conquer.

To Mark First and foremost who the hell do u think u are talking crap about muslims!! Look at ur damn self!! Christianity had 500 differents groups believing in a gazillion different things n u go talking crap about sunnis and shias!!! well guess what before u people got the power to rule the country n make laws we already had all the laws u damn people use today!! We were the rulers of the major countries and believe me one day agian we will rule the world n you will be just sitting in a corner regretting ur pathetic life!!! Next time before talking crap about muslims and other religions, just look at ur own damn self, Bush who is a christian right he is the one who was part of 9/11 planning , u christians will kill people for oil, and other stuff!! So remember, before u talk crap, think about Bush one of ur own men who bombed ur country!!

As you put it: First and foremost, who said I’m a Christian? I don’t subscribe to any religion precisely because of what I percieve to be the foolish behaviour of so-called devout people who are willing to actually harm others to promote their “divine beliefs”. I strongly suggest you take a look at yourself and listen to your own hateful and threatening words: “believe me one day agian we will rule the world n you will be just sitting in a corner regretting ur pathetic life”.

What kind of talk is that? Remember, I live in Canada; I was born in Canada; this is my home! I don’t expect other Countries to change their culture to accommodate me when I visit and I certainly wouldn’t expect them to change if I emigrated there either. Why is it that immigrants coming here, especially, – I’m sorry but the evidence cannot be ignored – Muslims.

Can you say the same about Muslims in general? What other religious group is so obsessed with this idea of, again your own words, taking over the world and making everyone think, believe and behave like them? Certainly other religions have done things in the past but this is the present and it’s pretty obvious who is doing it now.

Can’t you and other religious people just get it that what you believe is JUST A BELIEF? There is no proof that anybody’s religion is right. So believe in your religion but please let others do the same; they have in the very least as much right to as you do.

[quote]believe me one day agian we will rule the world n you will be just sitting in a corner regretting ur pathetic life[/quote]See, that’s what we love about Muslims – they are so loving! So friendly, so kind.

NOT.

Thanks for showing the world once again the true face of Islam.

You vomit all over us, tell us that you will enslave us, but when we object to YOUR trash talk and hatred, you say we’re the ones “talking crap about muslims.”

Charming as always. Who wouldn’t want to be subjugated under such peaceful and cultured individuals?

Is this anonymous coward who is threatening Mark and the rest of us still in North America? Well, please all you so TOLERANT muslims, will you please help us track him down so we can throw him out of our country? You know, the treason laws are all still on the books. Tolerant moderate muslims, where are you, we need your help, WTF? Where is it?

This professor who says get the hell out to these people is the first muslim I’ve ever heard say that sort of thing without evil equivocations and the deliberate lying to the infidel which is demanded of them by the Quran.

I am muslim myself and immigrated to Canada in 2002. I believe religion and state affairs should be separated. Religion is only between God and the person. I think we must respect the dress code, leave our hijab at home when we go out. It is also totally inappropriate to go out with your praying carpet and pray outside! This is a real show and unrespect to the tolerance of our new Country. I am so happy and proud that, now my son can go to music school and learn how to play piano!

True HarmonyIn order for there to be true harmony one must exclude the religious factor. I can be with many people and be in total harmony without knowing anyones religion. Think about it, can you be in a huge gathreing of people and be in total harmony? If you did not know the religion of anyone person there how would that matter? It wouldn’t. This is true harmony. If everyone was to wear a sign so that it was known what religious faith they follow, do you still believe there would be true harmony? I think not! When a young person is killed in an Islamic country by a bomb, you see great sadness and grief shown by the parents and relatives, friends and neighbours. Why is it then when a young woman who was raped by man is it that the young woman is killed to justify the dishonour she brought forth to the family. Why do the family of the young girl not celebrate the death of this young woman if her dishonour is so justified? It is because of the human nature of people. The death of any human being brings forth a feeling of sadness. It is a human nature. It is what GOD,ALLAH,CHRIST or whatever diety you believe in,designed. You can’t live by a religion. Try living your life by following what your heart tells you and let religion make you a better person. I remember asking my father once why I wasn’t baptised. He said that my mother and himself felt it was a choice that should be made by me. After all, religion, is just a guide to help me when my heart is confused. He told me that religion doesn’t make a good man, a good heart makes a good man and a good man makes a good religion. I still haven’t been baptised and yet I deem myself a good person. This I know because my heart tells me, not because I follow the rules of a religion. If your heart fails to guide these muslim people and they feel compelled to follow their religion so devoutfully, then I suggest they go back to the country where their guide book was developed. We have such a limited amount of time to guide the rest of the world towards peace and harmony. Follow your heart first and use your religion as a guide not a way of life and you will acheive harmony and peace.

Nadoo I am reading your statement and I see that you are already going against the teachings of your faith. Speaking to people not of your faith. You outwardly profess you have friends not of your faith, you associate with people not of your faith, you are not therefore following your own faith. Hijab or not you are bringing dishonor to your family. Why don’t you admit it you like the freedom to do what you choose in your faith and it isn’t by the book of Sharia or the reliance of the traveler. Now according to your faith how are you to be treated by your family? A non-muslim is not supposed to talk to you about their faith so don’t profess you broken beliefs to others. You came here to have a better life. You did not come here on false pretenses to push something on anyone did you? You want to live here in harmony with the rest of the Country right ? You didn’t misrepresent yourself to come here did you? You didn’t come here to overpower the non-muslim to below your status as it is written in the reliance of the traveler and take all the booty ( our posessions) for yourself did you? My understanding is you came here to make a better life for yourselves to get away from the turmoil of the homeland and the fear of death all around. That being the case rid the world of the reliance of the traveler and sharia law as well the Hadith the book that talks about the permanent war and win the world, then also rid the book of Jihad. Ban these books they are books promoting bullying in the highest degree which includes killing of non muslims.

Hsharia: Sharia is based on the principles found in the Koran and other Islamic religious/political texts. There are no common principles between American law and Sharia.

Under Sharia law:

• There is no freedom of religion

• There is no freedom of speech

• There is no freedom of thought

• There is no freedom of artistic expression

• There is no freedom of the press

• There is no equality of peoples—a non-Muslim, a Kafir, is never equal to a Muslim

• There is no equal protection under Sharia for different classes of people. Justice is dualistic, with one set of laws for Muslim males and different laws for women and non-Muslims.

• There are no equal rights for women

• Women can be beaten

• A non-Muslim cannot bear arms

• There is no democracy, since democracy means that a non-Muslim is equal to a Muslim

• Our Constitution is a man-made document of ignorance, jahiliyah, that must submit to Sharia

• Non-Muslims are dhimmis, third-class citizens

• All governments must be ruled by Sharia law

• Unlike common law, Sharia is not interpretive, nor can it be changed

• There is no Golden Rule

Another finding is that the quran was dictated by Mohamed to Hebrew scribes who were enslaved by Mohamed . Mohamed was illiterate and could not possibly proofread the writings. Knowing this what truth was there on the writings. The Bible was GOD breathed and written by scholars . the new testament was written by historians of the time. Historians of today write about the truth of the time. What if now we have writings indicating that JFK was drowned of the shores of Oregon . do you think that would be accepted? I think not

Depends on the interpretation of Islam tbh. Granted, some branches may follow those points above. Just as there is controversy and debate in Christianity, so too is there in Islam

There is sooo much that confounds a single interpretation in Islam. Here’s just a FEW.

1. The Qur’an was written in classical Arabic such that a single DOT on a word can change the meaning from “flowers” to “stones”. 2. Some branches believe that the Qur’an was written in poetic language (which gives it more room for interpretation and relevance); whereas, others (Shariah) take it very literally3. Hadiths are disputed as factual records. 4. The Chapters and the Verses were not compiled in order because the Qur’an was assembled almost three decades after the Prophet’s death. 5. Several versions of the Qur’an were floating around until the third Caliph Usmaan chose this one as the official won. I always have wondered what the differences were (and I suspect that many of those differences are still present in all the various interpretations today).

E.g. I find it hard to believe that a text which spends an ENTIRE chapter praising the Divine Mary would arguably (and truly) desire to subjugate women as well as non-Muslims in its spirit.

So Allah must be the worst literary editor in history then. Why can’t he get his story straight if he’s so perfect and divine? Maybe because he’s so sneaky and evil? Or fictional? A character created by a demented illiteratepsychopath by dictation to his enslaved scribes?

Why can’t this Abrahamic God create better translators if he’s so perfect and all powerful? He makes the Christians look like they have their own story straight. By modern legal standards it’s all hate literature. Maybe it’s time we do something about that.

As for controversy and debate in Islam, it is forbidden by the Quran. The word of Allah is absolute. The claim that there is any real debate about Allah’s intentions towards the infidels is almost certainly a deliberate lie, as the above anonymous muslim surely knows.

Please spare us the bullsh*t about the virgin Mary. She was a virgin raped by the ghost of the ultimate almighty male patriarch.

I work with the “intellectually disabled”. They are not retarded. In fact they are more progressive free thinkers than most of the rest of us. They understand the exact meaning of the Golden Rule because it is very simple and it is important to them.

Confucius invented The Golden Rule about five hundred years before these other religious upstarts who claim authorship, and Confucius was no Mongolian idiot. Not that I’m a fan of his kow-towing to authority, either, but at least he was a literate intellectual who helped his culture progress immensely before the totalitarian so-called First Emperor of the Chin “Dynasty” tried to and mostly succeeded in burning all his books and killing all the scholars.

Confucius say:Do not do to others what you would not have them do to you.

and Jesus said:Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

And Mohammad said, “Do unto the Other what ye believe in your heart he hath done against the most holy prophet of god with no mercy and may Allah’s vengeance be thine and so on…ad-finitum…until ye hath repaid the infidel a thousand fold and all the world shall bend to the rule of the one true god. In shal’llah.”

I think Christianity and Islam are both retarded and disabled, but at least Christianity has earned its day pass and shown itself capable of rehabilitation and integration into the community. However Islam has proven to be a danger to itself and others, therefore Islam can be defined as a paranoid phobia and so the term Islamo-phobia should rightfully become a certifiable category of mental illness in the next volume of the Psychiatric diagnostic DSM manual. Not that I believe in that particular control system very much either, but we should not allow a totalitarian Islamic “think tank” (as if they know how to think) to overthrow our progressive values and our freedoms. Which they relentlessly say they want to do while accusing all of the rest of us of hatred and intolerance. What an evil inversion of reality.

“The Bible was GOD breathed and written by scholars . the new testament was written by historians of the time.”

Those claims are demonstrably false as even New Testament scholars who are also professed Christians disagree with you. None of the disciples were credited with being historians and it makes no mention of any such education of them anywhere in the bible.

“The Gospels are neither histories nor biographies, even within the ancient tolerances for those genres.”

I understand that the books, up to Moses seeing the Promised Land, were written by Moses and were inspired by GOD. And from Joshua on to the New Testament was written by many others I seem to forget without deep research. The New Testament was written by many as well however the travels of Jesus were documented by three dominate learned individuals Matthew, Mark and Luke. I have not enough info on johns writings. I found they were not historians as I was led to believe. They were more educated than the rest one being a doctor. They interviewed, in our terms, the rest of the apostles to put the whole travels and miracles together up to the Witness of the Ascension by Bartholomew. After the ascension the writings became a collection of letters to different areas with teachings. Revelations is still being figured out but we are getting closer to the interrpretation. I think I’ve got it this time more clear. I have a chart and will try to complete i in the near future.

I was in a supermarket (Superstore go figure) and was in the dairy section with a friend.A muslim man and his wife walking behind him passed by and she must have not been paying attention and walked past him.He lost it and struck her for walking ahead of him.It was hard enough that she fell to the ground and hit her head.I flipped out, ran over and punched him in the face.He went down, I got on top and punched him a few more times telling him if he ever hit a woman again I’d kill him.Then I removed his wallet, took a picture of his license with my phone.I told him I now know where he lives and myself and friends will be watching and if he ever raised his hand to his wife again I’d come into his house and kill him.Muhammad made up his religion the same way Joseph Smith made up Mormonism.When he first created his religion he claims god talked to him and so he ended up with one copying many aspects of Christianity and Judaism.Then when he got his ass kicked out of Mecca god magically talked to him again and told him to change it to what it is today: a political religion of violence.This was Muhammad having a baby tantrum and angry at those who kicked him out so he made up a religion to kill them and benefit himself.Pathetic bunch of brainwashed idiots can keep their religion out of Canada.Anyone on the planet that thinks it’s ok to kill someone because they made fun of their god doesn’t deserve to exist amongst the rest of us who know the difference from wrong and right. (me being a little bit of a hypocrite as I shouldn’t have beat up the guy)

How about this. Almost every white woman I know does not want any moslems in canada- in fact the men can go jump in a damn lake we dont want to live in 1590 in canada and we happen to like running our country as we always have…………..

My $0.02I agree with his assertion as a Canadian Muslim woman for the following reasons:

1) There are many interpretations of the Koran, which means that there are many different figures of authority or clerics in Islam. For example, according to the branch of Islam within which I was brought up, Hijabs/head coverings are NOT mandated by God. All it says is “cover your breast” which means dress modestly.

2) Some interpretations (which we all see and hear in the media) over-represent the voice of Islam. This is especially problematic since these voices advocate for extreme and un-Islam like values. Beating your wife into submission is contrary to the very spirit of the Holy Qur’an.

3) Because of the differences in the Muslim word in terms of their interpretation, they will NEVER (without some massive revolution which I don’t expect to occur anytime soon) be able to agree on almost any way of living. Therefore, I do not want a form of Islam, which I vehemently oppose, to determine my future.

4) Unfortunately, our Canadian society is not yet educated enough on the nuances of Islam in order to block and protect the country from the extreme voices who have great influence due to their oil-funded origins.

5) Until countries which are based on Sharia law can accommodate other religions, I don’t think we should bend over backwards to accommodate their extremist views. For example, Saudi Arabia bans Bibles and Crucifixes.

P.S. the Islam I was raised in did not resemble much of what you see in the media. My faith empowered me as a woman to become educated, independent, happy, and appreciative for everything that the lovely country named Canada offers (including democracy, which I was taught is foundational to Islam considering that the Sunnis and Shias chose which interpretation to follow and Caliphs were elected).

muslims are told in the koran it is ok to lie to fprofessor,do you think a few well meaning words fool the christian west.we know what ALL muslims are about.and i’m afraid it includes you.when the clash of cultures/religions start,you wont be considered a friend…you’ll be the enemy.so save your breath,and start packing..one more terrorist outrage along the lines of 9/11 and i wouldn’t want to be in your shoes…..understand.

Greetings from SwedenI wish he would come to Sweden and talk, but thats never gonna gappen cause it would bee way to rasistic in this country.Here the government and ruling parties actually speaks about letting some sharialaws be accepted, imagine that.Maybe some of us can get asylum in your country?

As a proud Swede-American, I sincerely hope you get your country back. Opposing Islamofascism is not “racist,” as Islam is not a race ([url]http://freethoughtnation.com/contributing-writers/63-acharya-s/341-are-you-a-racist.html[/url]), despite what Muslim bullies tell you.

Calling people “racists” and “Islamophobes ([url]http://freethoughtnation.com/contributing-writers/63-acharya-s/760-muslim-writer-in-huffpo-admits-islamophobia-doesnt-exist.html[/url])” is just another part of the Islamofascist agenda of cultural jihad. It’s a deliberate jihadi tactic to browbeat, bully and insult us into submission.

Islamic infidelophobia ([url]http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-8327295676949120%3Ao4kcodsrg5k&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=infidelophobia&sa=Search&siteurl=freethoughtnation.com%2Fcontributing-writers%2F63-acharya-s%2F760-muslim-writer-in-huffpo-admits-islamophobia-doesnt-exist.html&ref=&ss=1766j515304j14#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=infidelophobia&gsc.page=1[/url]) is real, however, and unparalleled in history, with some 270 million deaths of non-Muslims in the name of Islam ([url]http://www.politicalislam.com/tears/pages/tears-of-jihad/[/url]).

The Swedes need to reach into their ancient traditions and resist these bullies abusing their good nature and high degree of civilization. Genocide of the native Swedes is an evil of an enormous magnitude – your politicians should be told that fact in no uncertain terms. And if they are bartering with evil, they need to be removed from power.

If we keep up current immigration policies, there will come a day when we are overwhelmed and cannot win our arguments with Radical Islam.

We private individuals should not be fighting a cultural war with Islam–that should fall to our federal government’s immigration department.

Muslims coming into Canada should be enriching our country, not degrading it. Therefore, new immigration requirements should be something like:

Minimum masters level education, fluency in both national languages, ability to demonstrate in concrete terms the adoption of western practices and norms, particularly with respect to family life, modes of dress, etc.

Historically Islam Destroy civiliationsI guess the same penchant for conversion,violence,non-tolerance,looting so inherent in the religion comes to fore in the history time and again.e.g the indian subcontinent was taken over by muslim invaders by looting temples, killing millions and forced conversion.

QuWill Durant, the famous historian summed it up like this:“The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex of order and freedom, culture and peace, can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within.”Unq

It goes to say they breed terrorists starting from the very top i.e. their prophet.

Women are dependent on men for their livelihood?Muslim cleric’s and spokesmen continue to spout out that nonsense that a women’s place is in the home.Well the iconic pictures of today showing women toiling in the fields with babies strapped to their bodies tells it all and gives the lie to this misongynistic propaganda.The reality from time immemoril(Hunter Gathers) is that women did more than their fair share of providing for the family unit and from the beginning of agriculture in Mesopotamia -which is mostly very labour intensive and time consuming-added to the tasks of women.With, and without their menfolk, women tilled sowed and reaped and in their (spare time) these so called dependants washed , cleaned, cooked, skinned,repaired and manufactured cooking vessels, footwear and clothing,weapons spears, arrows,bows ,horse harness …etc…etc ,not to mention giving birth,nurturing ,raising and protecting children.Dependants indeed! Mussel men .A recent U.N -International aid agencies research found ,in this day and age that 78 per cent of the work that provides the livelihood for the family unit is done by women worldwide.But was it not always so as it is still so much today: The people of the frozen North, the rain forests, the plains folk,and the huge populations of rice growers in the tropics,women work more than men.Of course there is part of the earths female population that works solely in the family home,but I challenge any man to take up in her absence her full time role and then try to prove to any fair minded person-not an misongynist -that’s impossible-that going to work in the morning and coming home at night and putting your feet up is is harder and more stressfull that child caring .Give him a week and the macho man would be crying for for his mammy-if you think it’s so easy why don’t you give it a really good try! Manno.The pastoral societies were slightly different though they did plant and raise some crops the rest they bartered for but the women still did 90 per cent of the work,they even made the tents the families lived in whilst the men preened themselves in boys only clubs and thought only of doing mischief on their neighbours.No wonder the Muslim conquests were so swift and sure.The Boys had nothing to do poor things! And idleness as we all know is a dangerous state for gangs of feral little boys to be in and they did what such boys always do :Torment the neighboursWeakened by continues warfare and devastated by the terrible plague the Byzantines and Persians were a push over for these gangs of posers and layabouts.Such is history good peopleIn time these camel herders were civilised by the people they had conquered:The Persians, Greeks,Romans and Egyptians and for centuries nourished by the texts of the Ancient world ,East and West Islam flourished.Then Hulagu Khan came and destroyed Baghdad the greatest seat of learning in the Western Hemisphere Muslims fought Muslims until the Ottomans forced a smothering blanket over the whole Middle East,stagnation set in and poverty and ignorance and corrupt and despotic government followed that lasted for centuries.When the rotten rule of the Ottomans was whipped away by the French and British in 1917 a medieval social political and religious mindset was revealed to be the worthless legacy the Sublime Porte left to its former subjects in the Middle East.The message is clear:….it must be agreed that all human being born equal,violence ,opportunity and ability made the first mastersVoltaire..Morality began with the noblest attribute of human nature …and ended in fanaticism or superstion …Kant..it is not enough to have a good mind;the main thing is to apply it well.Europe ascended from the suffocating religious dogma of the Middle Ages by the liberation of the individual that resulted from a combination of the Renaissance,the Reformation and the scientific revolution which was the precondition for the great economic growth of the seventeenth century,as well as political changes that would lead, ultimately, to republicanism:the rule of men by men who did not regard themselves as divinely appointed.All these great changes were facilitated by the free flow of ideas that came from the printing press:Books…Now we have the Internet and goodness knows what else to exchange ideas with one another,whoever they are;male or female;believers and unbelievers.Do not you think that millions of Muslims are doing the same at this very moment.The thirst for freedom:the liberation of the individual is part of our human nature and there is such a groundswell among the masses in Muslim countries that despite all the barbarity,physical or verbal you religious fanatics throw at them they will rise up and cast you into the dustbin of history.This is why you bigots rage and rage against Western values.Your scared stiff,trying to convince yourselves and others that by creating little enclaves of bigotry and hatred in western cities you are winning! When all the time you know your losing at home.Take heed buster,and be carefully you don’t go too far,the weak degenerate liberal democracies took care of facist Germany and rampaging Japan with overwhelming violence.Now I have communicated with violent religious bigots and they can’t harm me.We all see on t.v that men in the Middle East mostly wear jeans ,trousers and tee shirts dear me you ought to send in the religious police and beat them off the street:the apostates.You know human reason is a wonderfully thing, even the Tailiban are not immune to it,The news has just come in,they’ve relented and ceased their slaughter of the health workers who were vaccinating their children against smallpoxFinally,on the subject of the most worthy of the sexes:Women.In my humble opinion religious misongynist bigots are not fit to wipe a woman’s shoes.PDP.S I meant no disrespect to camel herders…it’s an honourable profession

re: [quote name=”Melinn2″]Most excellent Patrick![/. Thank you melinn2 women are the best..the best…the bested of every thing in this male dominated world…..this I say..a mere man….May the road rise with you,and the wind be always at your back,and may god hold you in the hollow of her hand

Shuria bull sh*tMahfooz is exactly right, If muslims want to live under sharia law , they should go back to the country they came from.Islam is the enemy of Christianity. The End.Frankly i would suggest all muslims be expelled from the countrybefore their numbers are so large that they take control of the country.

If the Canadian govt CARES about CANADA, they should stop all islamic religious options. IN SHORT, ISLAM SHOULD BOW TO CHRISTIAN LAWS.If they don’t like it , PLEASE dont come to Canada.If your here, YOU Convert to Christianity.Hert Wilders is right. NO mosqes allowed in netherlands, no speacial treatment for muslims.NO muslim hospitals like in toronto, not Muslim anything.

If you want to be muslim, stay where you are.Canada does not want you.

Religious fanatics and brainwashed followersMuslim cleric’s have always regard themselves as being as important as God. Indeed,it’s probably worse than that nowadays.God probably thinks he’s. a Muslim cleric….exbrainedwahed washed pilgrim.

That so-called muslim is a muslim by name!!! He is changing Islam!!! Quran tells to live by Sharia…. The Muslim Professor sold his religion to the Kuffar!!! As the Quran says “[2.120] And the Jews will not be pleased with you, nor the Christians until you follow their religion. Say: Surely Allah’s guidance, that is the (true) guidance. And if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, you shall have no guardian from Allah, nor any helper.”

I see, so you agree that Islam represents pretty much what this Canadian Muslim professor says, the exact opposite of his classy and evolved perspective? That Islam is set against the kuffar ([url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kuffar[/url]), which is an insulting name for a non-Muslim?

[quote]Also spelled ‘kafir’ or ‘kaffir’, Kuffar is a highly derogatory Arabic term used to refer to non-Muslims[/quote]Apparently, you are a racist infidelophobe who hates all non-Muslims and who is bent on destroying the world and bringing your Islamic hellhole to the rest of us.

Thank you so very much for validating this Muslim professor’s views. Now, please keep your kuffar-hating cult to yourself. It has made you sociopathic.

RACISTS!Isalmic-NEONAZISM- check out youtube…….they think they are superior, they are narrow-minded, they come from a tribal community, they were born lying and cheating and having sex with other patners, they will kill for their beliefs, they have no where else to live as no one wants them in any country and the cant even live with their own people because they are so full of hate and bigoted…….

If people want to live by Sharia then don’t you think they should live in a country that abides by Sharia vs. coming to a country that doesn’t? Any person that migrates to Canada “knows” before they get there that Sharia is not tolerated. Like me, I would never migrate to a country that had Sharia because I don’t believe in it, but if I did … I wonder what they would say if I said … Oh wait … I don’t believe in Sharia so you must change how you operate because you must accommodate my belief systems … I don’t think I would get as gracious a answer as Canada has given these people.

Was Allah helping you even with all your sharia poverty ridden enclaves.cant you tell God hates the oppression in Islamic countries and the inequalities in herent in sharia. That’s why your con tries are so retarded and keep seeking assylum.repent and let God heal your hearts.

My message is simple: let us start now to get rid of these aggressive Muslims. Simply because they will multiply and they will not stop until they take over our society. Our governments must show the leadership needed to protect us from these invaders now.

I have read this thread as I find the topic interesting and sadly believe that misunderstood religion by undereducated people who ignores history, will be the downfall of the planet at some point.

I’m from Denmark part of Scandinavia and back in time we had the Vikings. We believed in the “old” gods Odin, Freja and so on.Today the picture of us back then is that we were all cut throat killers that would convert or kill everything in our path. I think that the reason that only these histories makes it to the public, is that they sell the best and the destructive nature of people in general. The fact though is that most northerners where in fact fishermen, farmers, blacksmiths, traveling tradesmen as in common people.I still believe in the old gods to a degree, cause it is mainly based on common sense and every action has a reaction. You should not misunderstand this for being the eye for an eye concept as it was back then cause luckily we have evolved over time.

Then came Christianity from Germany and we were either converted or killed during the first Nordic crusades. Since then Scandinavia has been Christian. With this I mean that if you look at Christian or catholic history we were just as insane and shortsighted as the extreme Muslims are today. and it was always Christian or catholic cruelty based in politics being controlled by religion. We have since then evolved a lot in the western world and appose to the extreme Muslims, we still have religious fanatics both Christian and Catholics, but we don’t run around slaughtering defenseless kids, women or men anymore, we kind grew out of that decades ago .So put a bit blunt and I know I’ll get a lot of grief for this but, some Muslims just aren’t that evolved yet as they have been or still are under tyranny and rule by a few insane people that couldn’t care less about the people if it wasn’t for the power and money it provides em. They are doing all the same mistakes we did centuries ago.But I would like to underline! that I think you can use a rule of thumb here. 20-80 rule. As in no matter what religion you talk about it is always 20% that destroys everything for everyone els. But it is these 20% that will end up blowing a hole in the earth. The rest of us that would prefere just to be left alone to live our life are called a lot of bad words every time we say anything that goes against what the 20% want.

For instance it amazes me how people can defend a religion that among other things still think it is okay to kill people be stone. Putting young girls in Dubai in prison for years after they were raped because the nutters say they had sex outside marriage. In general treating women like dirt. A religion that time after time shows that the 20% doesn’t want to co. exists with the west. They want to control and kill all of us until only they are left.. So all in all a religion misunderstood by some and based in racism.

I think that people should believe in whatever god or being that makes sense to them, but they should keep it to them self. I don’t care what you believe in as long as you don’t think you are better than everyone else and have the misunderstood idea that you know better than everyone else so that gives you the right to suppress, hurt or kill in the name of a god no one has ever seen. I believe that there is more between heaven and earth that meets the eye and if a god was to appear for me someday and tell me wrong  I would properly change my belief, but as long as it is all based on scrolls or books written by humans and interpreted to what fits the need of the power hungering individual I don’t buy it 

I apologize for bad grammar and spelling but English isn’t my first language.

Have a great day and remember you can be the best person in the world but you can’t be better than anyone else 

I agree that it seems the extreme Muslin’s seen to be exactly like the Christian Crusaders of time past .. years have passed since that day but it seems they are still stuck in that time period … but with the advances that come with a world that has progressed they are able to use these advances and are no longer confined to their own lands….

Why Muslims Have Problems Fitting In!I think some Muslims have problems fitting in because they don’t want to fit in! The radical Muslims believe everyone should be Muslim and have no respect for any culture or religion other than their own! The radicals would like everyone to be Muslim and if you aren’t they would just as soon harm you and you family! They move into host countries and take over areas that are now called No Go Zones! If you aren’t Muslim you dare not go into these areas! Sharia Law is the only law recognized in these areas! These areas can become so violent that police and emergency personal can’t or won’t enter these areas! It truly amazes me that here in Canada we know so little about the events happening in other parts of the world! You have to go all over the internet trying to see what’s going on! Even then I wonder if what I read could be true! If it is wake up Canada! It can happen here! I wish the radical Muslims would get out of my country! Then they can live with in their Sharia Law abiding nation! We need to educate ourselves so we can stop this from happening in our country!

Thank you! I have tears in my eyes just worrying about it because suddenly I see more and more those full face covered women that are only in the radical Islam…and they are near my home NW Calgary. I am scared like crazy.

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Thank you, I am impressed and thankful that a Muslim is so open minded and forward and says the right thing, this is Canada and so we adapt to Canada and our culture or please leave…I really value your words! I am terrified of such Islam that imposes and controls people in Taliban way.
Thank you!

I think people commenting are all over the place. The main issue here is right of parent and freedom of religion. Many of you have completely digressed from the chief discussion, and went on total racist and hate filled rents about not only Muslims but immigrants. I honestly found some of these comment disturbing, patriotism morphed to racism and some how evolved to white supremacy mod mentality. There’s a few things that should be pointed out to individuals making remarks about the greatness of canada without being able criticize the country they hold so dear.

Canada has had a long history of discrimination going back as far as early contact between European settlers and aboriginal peoples of canada (turtle island). Europeans brought foreign law to an already developed socioeconomic communities. Terra Nullius, The legal doctrine of terra nullis, deemed any land uninhabited if its occupancies were not Christian. Forced upon aboriginal peoples who had a holistic connect to the land and an understanding of their surrounds that allowed them to not only survive but thrive prior to European contact. There were various First Nations from Algonquin peoples of Quebec and Ontario, the Gitxsan of the BC area to the Mushaua Innu and the Naskapi tribe of Atlantic Canada. They had complex and develop systems of law and commerce, so there was a system of law before “Canadians” immigrated and colonized the land. The use of religion did not end at confiscation of land, the new Canadians use sets of laws to saturated with Christian values to shape and morph the country you feel so strongly about, but refuse to recognize its past. The inception of residential school system illustrates the discriminate and patriarchal identity of Canada, you complain about parents being involved in their children’s education but forget what happen to aboriginal children!!! Some schools were gender specific while others divided boys and girls, They Came for the Children, illustrate this separation in many pictures, boys and girls were divided within the school and outside. Euro-Canadian gender roles were reinforced in the segregation of training. Girls learned how to sew, cook and general servitude to enforce the domestic and submissive qualities mainstream society envisioned for women. Boys were forbidden from those activates and made to labour in the fields. THERE ALOT MORE TO BE SAID ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL AND THEIR USE OF RELIGION BUT I HOPE YOU READ THIS AND BECOME MOTIVATED TO FIND OUT MORE YOURSELVES, AND PREVENT SUCH INTOLERANCE FROM CONTINUE ON THIS PAGE AND IN YOUR OWN LIVES.

Now on to the present day laws of Canada, and the potential invasion of sharia law. First of am not sure how many of you know this but Canada has 2 systems of law, civil law found in Quebec and common law and common law in the rest of canada. I should also mention that aboriginals have jurisdiction over some areas of law, so they can deal with some legal issues according to their culture. Common law in canada is clearly the top dog, but that does not diminish the fact that other cultures have accomplished to dictate specified areas of the law according to their culture ( aboriginal and French in Quebec). In saying that I won’t not be completely surprised if Shia law was adopted to deal with divorce and marriage, areas concerning family. Let me make this point clear though NOW, no other system other than common law with reside over criminal matters and most other areas of law.

Now for the right of individuals to practise religion. Unfortunately for those you were basically screaming for Muslims to be hung and burned, for grabbing carpets and praying, if you love Canada you should cherish the constitution. The protection this badass document provides is a guarantee that Muslims will be able to pray in any street, field, park and other areas (within reason though, am not talking blocking off a main intersection of Bank street here come on guys let use our heads) without legal reprimand. If one of you knuckleheads were to do something stupid you would violating the law and bring shame to this great constitution that has allowed canada to become the place it is today.

Guarantee of Rights and Freedoms

1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.

Fundamental Freedoms

2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(a) freedom of conscience and religion;
(b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
(c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
(d) freedom of association.

Marginal note:Life, liberty and security of person

7. Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice.

Equality Rights

Equality before and under law and equal protection and benefit of law

15. (1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.

Now for the bit about the school and segregation in gym, that’s too easy. This another good one from the constitution. Basically am pretty sure you have all seen catholic schools, well I have some news for some of you, not sure if this may come as a shock. There are Islamic school in Canada with Canadian certified teachers and approved curriculum. Guess what they have segregated gym for boys and girls. Girls get to do their thing and not worry about testosterone fuelled teenage boys doing their best impress of macho man randy savage, ooh yeah. I did even need to get into the rights of parent as guardians of their children in regards to education. That is a sticky situation I have read a few things on that and it was interesting but hard to pick a side, specific education or preserving the rights of parent which one is more important, tough but good conversation. Instead of being some lame racist douchbag and yelling go back to your own country, take pride in being a human and talk about it. Well unless your training for the KKK Olympics, that would be pretty funny, no joke being racist or prejudice of any kinda is not funny. So do to say go back to your own country if you want separate gym for boys and girls just point to the nearest Islamic school, which is funded by communities. That would make you a better Canadian and less douchie.

Rights respecting certain schools preserved

29. Nothing in this Charter abrogates or derogates from any rights or privileges guaranteed by or under the Constitution of Canada in respect of denominational, separate or dissentient schools.

I want to end this so I will say a few more words to close. Don’t believe everything you see on the media, don’t be that guy or girl that has limited brain power and will. Not all Muslims are terrorist or Arab, that just in the movies and news. You have to remember they are trying to sell you something the media and it seems like your all buying. For the proud Canadian, am fan just like the next guy( even though SENS SUCKED BIG TIME LAST YEAR) but I will criticize and remember what happen before us to I don’t make the same mistake. The geopolitical situation in many of the countries “immigrants” come from are influences by the greater global community and the hegemonic power of the world has been for a long time US. Thus they have hand in many issues around the world. I saw someone mention that the problems of the Middle East is not the fault of the west, but with veto majority veto power in IMF and the world bank, in addition to significant influences in the UN( the damn headquarters is in America) That a whole lot of weight to toss around I would use it to my advantage. Muslims are not invading they are just the hot topic of the times. Not to long ago Canadian RCMP we arresting homosexuals, and society would never allow homosexuals to show their relationship in public forget marriage or praying in streets. We forget so easy that canada deported and arrested without reason Japanese Canadians during the RED SCARE, only for Prime Minister Brian Mulroney to formally apologizes to Japanese Canadian survivors and their families. the ISLAM SCARE has had some memorable moments as well. Canada let US detain and torture a Canadian citizen, what happen to those right??? Do you know that extraordinary rendition cost Canada? 10 million and an apology from prime minster Harper, that what we get for letting other do our work for us. I don’t have one question though, what is Canadian culture??? There was been a lot of talk about our culture, what is it? Poutine? Hockey? Or the Queen. Or is canada just an extension of Britain. Most of Canadian media comes from America, we do what they do just a bit slower, or is our. Culture free health care along with the other dozen socialist countries that have free health care. Seriously make a list of Canadian culture and see what really ours and what was imported and we just took on. Hockey is not even the national sport is curling, come on guys and girls, let see what else. Not sure but I have tried to come up with a list that would accurately represent the culture of the true north stronger and free.

In close be a human being not a complete idiots,

Aboriginals
European settlers turned Canadians
Japanese Canadians
New immigrants

ALL HUMANS AT THE END OF THE DAY BLEED AND BREATH ALL THE SAME. Don’t let the actions of some dictate the way you preserve others. If a Muslim in your face preaching do like a lot Christians ( but not all cause some Christians are pretty cool if I do say so myself) do when Sunday rolls around avoid the preacher, thanks but no thanks, go back to your country is not the Canadian way and it’s just inaccurate, get out of the country that I took from the original inhabitants by using my Christian white ideology of Christianity being the saviour of non white primitive savages and destroying 2 generations of aboriginal children to make sure they never become what they ancestors were, is way more accurate.

Honestly though all religions have been given a bad rap by the other side and Islam just happens to be the flavour of the month, majority of Muslims are not concerned with changing canada more concerned with living and getting by like everyone else.

DONT BE THAT GUY OR GIRL. Racism and discrimination of any kind is not cool

Thanks, but without examples of what you are objecting to, I don’t see it. People here are rightly concerned not about a RACE but about an IDEOLOGY that itself is bigoted, hateful, homophobic, misogynistic and violent. We have every right to object to what amounts to a male-dominant cult. We should even hate such an ideology. The rights that you copied and pasted include our right not to be subjected to such hateful and vicious beliefs, simply because they are called “religion.”

Islam is not a race, and invoking racism is a very poor tactic. Suggesting that by disliking Islam and even objecting to being flooded with hordes of disrespectful immigrants is akin to white supremacy is truly egregious.

bigoted, hateful, homophobic, misogynistic and violent you talk about was demonstrated by European Christians as the kidnapped, raped, sexually assaulted, abused 2 generations of aboriginal children in residential school where is the objection. Where is the objection to the continuous discrimination of aboriginal peoples in canada, they make up 3 % of the population and majority of the prison population, where is the objection when Christian ideology degraded whole First Nation communities by say why have you sent your women to make treaties with men. Aboriginal culture women have always held a high position when it came to the issues of their people but European Christian contact made quick work of that by sending them back and say we will not make deals with women. Why does canada continue to ignore the countless aboriginal women being targeted raped and murder, miss aboriginal women do not get the same outrage for their cause, but as soon as European Christian values are threaten vulgar and discriminate language come out quick. What does this complete disregard for aboriginal life tell you about European- Canadian ideology? Which were the original hordes of disrespectful immigrants, brought by god to save the savages. Our current state in the media has already subjected women to sexual objects how your body should be and what you should look like, do talk about ideology without considering your surrounding. We can continue to point fingers and demean other people it only bring more hatred. What does this help who does this help. If your aim is to concentrate on those who what use religion for evil, am sure majority of Muslims in canada would agree their religion has been hijacked and they want it back to be able to represent the positive side of it.

Have you read the entire post or just focused on the rights?
You let me know which right we should pick and choose like a buffet line. Your rights to be protected against hate speech and crimes are fully protected and have been for some time but will you give up your freedom of religion? If you are willing to prevent expression of religion, what else are you willing to give up to subdue your fears. Freedom of speech and right to be mobile can prove dangerous if utilized for unjust cause. When you discuss rights do not just see them as belonging to or protecting one group, be cautions and vigilant these right belong and protect everyone. Will you stand by your principles of freedom and equality or cower by spreading seeds of hatred? Will you preach of some potential danger that has not shaken even slightly the pillars of this constitution which has been able to thrive true to its living tree concept. This idea that is being spread is xenophobic nonsense, the Muslims are not invading and sharia law is not replacing this solid constitution, and painting everyone the same is discriminating, you should make note after I write racism it’s followed by any discrimination. Pictures do speak a thousand word here’s one all women no matter what race, religion or creed should be outraged with, and this was not the Muslims. Be the agent for change you want, is it hatred or humanity.

Ideologies come and go, homosexuality is not accepted and protected, after being criminalizes and hated. Will transgendered people get their day or will our current “Canadian” ideology send in the way. Will we ever find the courage to safeguard missing and murdered aboriginal women. It was not until 1983 that a spouse could be charged with sexual assault, this misogynistic and violent ideology you speak about has not ended in canada, no women has ever been voted into power, women are still portrayed as less valuable than men. The wage discrepancy further suggest we have not learn the strength of our women. You talk about this ideology the seeks to destroy but ignore our own victims. How dare you be so arrogant and forget so quick what has passed. I choose humanity and joy all peoples of any race, creed, religion, sexual orientation, disability and all other differences that make use human, I join humanity to build the future that will endure the spread of hatred and the ignorance of arrogance. the current trend of Islamic panic around the world will fade and the west finds a new enemy what will you do then, when all non Muslim and Muslim Canadians must defend canada. North Korea is no joke and china is preparing to become the sole hegemonic power of the world with military and economy supremacy.

Thanks, but I’m well aware of the abuses of Christianity, the Catholic church and individual Christians over the centuries, having written about the subject quite extensively for decades now.

“How dare you be so arrogant and forget so quick what has passed.”

How ridiculous to make a personal attack on someone who has been exposing Christianity’s violent and misogynistic history for nearly 20 years online. You obviously don’t even know who are you addressing and are simply frantic to keep people off the subject of Islam.

THIS post is about Islam, so deflecting onto Christianity represents an irrelevant strawman. There are plenty of places to discuss Christian transgressions, which are indeed being addressed in numerous forums.

Deflecting off the heinousness of Islam will not suffice to make it disappear, and this discussion obviously needs to be had, as people appear to be desperate to shut it down, much to the detriment of humanity. Please stay on topic and resist the personal attacks or move along.

You must not be read what being written, and I have not idea who you are if you are. For a person who has been writing and done so much “reporting” on abuse of Christianity you should not what the response to hatred is more hatred. You must not be reading or understanding what your writing. I think I rather move on and discuss this will individuals that are able to critical assess the whole issues rather than fear mongering, xenophobic, prejudice loud mouths. Before the Muslims “attack” canada will fall to much worth, but you go head and fight the good fight, will see where that guys you. Rally the masses and talk a bloody revolution, but remember Muslims are the fast growing religion and already are composed of 1.6 billion people that over 20 person of the world population. You air heads what to make a battle on a religion and paint everyone of those 1.6 billion people the same, you are a disgusting human being. One more this learn to read the entire post before responding, you would have learned something. I really hope you do sacrifice some right to “protect” then you will really be fucked you and your 20 “reporting”. Peace to the Middle East and everywhere in the world. Spread love and stand for peace. Islam, Christianity, Judaism and all other faiths in addition to people who don’t prescribe to a faith, they all have large number of good, it’s a shame the low life of canada are running to spread hatred. The rest of canada I hope you are more loving than this group. Don’t listen to this fear mongering evil person who wants to see people hate each other for this that are not happening do buy into this BS of these type of people. Know one will ever know who you are until you stop this pursuit of hatred. You need a hug.

Regardless of your nonsensical personal attacks, the point of the original article – by a Canadian MUSLIM – remains the same. All you have done with your rambling abuse is to prove the point that Islam remains a huge problem, as its devotees and nonbelieving supporters become abusive whenever it and its fanatics are criticized.

Your “hug” would evidently consist of a hammer to the head, based on your endless, deranged insults. Move along now, as you have contributed nothing to this discussion.

Over the years that I have been online, many people have wondered about my credentials, particularly since I write about controversial and contentious subjects that tend to create widespread debates. Let us first understand that the “credential argument” frequently constitutes an ad hominem attack, especially in the case of individuals who disagree with mainstream perspectives. In reality, it is not always necessary to have perfect and proper credentials to become an expert or authority in a subject, or even to understand it.

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I have no one and nothing legitimate backing me up, but I would like to sale you something. Your no better than a tabloid paper just want views disgusting.

Not a Canadian but went to Uni there. Beautiful country, lovely people. Don’t let the ungrateful immigrants (muslim or otherwise) from repressive shitholes batter you into submission using your welcoming nature and politeness against you. I’m an ex-muslim from England and we’ve got some serious nutters here. The problem is that the good, moderate “muslims” are basically good people from islamic backgrounds who believe their religion is basically good and gloss over the bits that make them uncomfortable. The “extreme” muslims are just muslims, no more no less, who actually read and apply the quran and hadith to their lives. Stay awesome, Canada, and i hope to visit you again one day

muslim jihad against Canada, Canadians, Canadian govt, laws, rights, freedoms….
ie muslims calling Canadians racist for speaking Facts of muslims….
ie muslims using CANADIAN RIGHTS, FREEDOMS, LAWS Against Canadians
ie
MUSLIM JIHAD / TERRORISM against CANADIANS
all next door muslims, all everyday muslims practice such
and teach children such
including in mosques in our Canadian neighborhoods

want more muslim jihad / terrorism against CANADIANS
OH THERE IS

BAN qu’ran’, muslims, close down mosques
kick muslims out of our neighborhoods, schools
refuse use of justice system, rights freedoms

When we visit islamic countries we have to obey their laws. How come when they come to live in civilised countries they refuse to live by OUR laws? Kids get taught music and gym, END OF. They refuse to send their kids to school, report them to social services and punish them. Why should schools (which are probably already financially struggling) spend more money to accommodate the pathetic ‘rules’ of islamism?

A large number of writers here speaking my thoughts about Muslims. I am definitely concerned and disgusted with the large number of Muslim folks who not only think but act in ways that make it clear they want us ( the host country) to change our ways and beliefs to meet their needs and beliefs.
Generally speaking this whole thread and discussion screams out to me that religion in general is not a good thing but I guess that is another topic all unto its own. Peace and love people.

I am wondering are Muslims who choose to live in Canada and abide by Canadian Laws, in any way harassed for not following Sharia Law from the Muslims who do live under Sharia Law in Canada? Has there been cases and if so what actions have been taken to ensure your rights as a Canadian! I am assuming there has been problems, the public may just not hearing about them!

Islam is based on three fundamental principles:
1. Stealing
2. Killing, and
3. Lying
Koran says:
“Slay them wherever you find them. Fight against them till idolatry is no more and God’s religion reigns supreme” (Sura 2:190),
“Seek out your enemies relentlessly” (Sura 4:103),
“Make war on them till idolatry shall cease and God’s religion shall reign supreme” (Sura 8:36),
“When the sacred months are over slay the unbelievers wherever you find them. Arrest them, beseige them and lie in ambush everywhere for them” (Sura 9:5),
“Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you” (Sura 9:121),
“When you meet the unbelievers on the battlefield strike off their heads” (Sura 47:3),
“Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate” (Sura 66:7).
Koran is Islamic Mein Kamf. Islam is fascist cult and must be eliminated from the earth.

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