I'm not an anti but a new poster to this forum. I have been reading WN web site info for a while now (this site and a few others). I agree with some of the ideology presented, but I have a hard time grasping the depth of the "claims" made by most WNs about the Jews. Most mainstream white people would laugh at the claims if made in general terms -

Martin Luther King was a communist/sex-hungry/racist
The US was tricked into WWII by the Jews and FDR
FDR was the worst president in US history
The US had advance notice of Pearl Harbor
The holocaust didn't happen
Communism was a Jewish plan
Hitler was a hero
The Jewish "race" is in on a conspriracy that transends generation, national boundry, language etc to rule the world.
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Please understand, I'm not saying that the above generalizations aren't backed up by valid arguments and documented proof of sorts. Its just that most go against the assumptions I had before I started to read WN literature and ALL are the direct OPPOSITE of what most people in America "claim" to feel.

My question is this, if white people, who ARE proud of being white and DON'T like the constant double standards in mainstream news reporting, want to bring about change, how can this be accomplished given that the VAST majority of white Americans don't feel as WNs do or are afraid to feel as WNs do?

My question is this, if white people, who ARE proud of being white and DON'T like the constant double standards in mainstream news reporting, want to bring about change, how can this be accomplished given that the VAST majority of white Americans don't feel as WNs do or are afraid to feel as WNs do?

A WN will surely give you a far more involved answer. But to put it simply, Whites in America have been terrorized and brainwashed into complying with all that they resisted prior to integration.

Dude you don't have a clue, have you read any of our serious literature on the Jews?. Read Kevin Macdonald's book for Jewish involvment in Western soceites and go to Ernest Zundels website or our own Revisionism forum to learn about the Holocaust revisionism. When you read deep into this stuff and you realize who shapes the "ways of seeing" for most Americans, then you will see why Americans have no ill opinion toward the Jews.

He was. There is actually much more to it then just that. Most of his work was not even rightfully his. If you don't believe it simply do some research.

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The US was tricked into WWII by the Jews and FDR

I don't really believe this one. The US joined the war because Germany was winning. So they simply had to shift the balance. It's obvious that Germany was so powerful that we could've had enough power to win the war... our main enemy was the winter.

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FDR was the worst president in US history

I don't know to much about the US presidents, but I'm sure the people who believe this have a good arguement. This is more of an opinion rather then a theory.

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The US had advance notice of Pearl Harbor

They did. They chose to ignore it.

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The holocaust didn't happen

It did happen, but it was exaggerated beyond belief. Not only that but the Jews milked the sympathy to death.

I believe the actual number killed is estimated at 2-3 million. The 6 million number derived from a bolstered sarcastic remark that one of the Higher-Ranking leaders (his name escapes me just now) said in Nürnberg, and of course they took it for truth because they wanted a way to exploit and embellish the Holocaust – thus ensuring the death of Anti-Semitism and the NSDAP.

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Communism was a Jewish plan

The main inventor of Communism was Karl Marx. He was a Jew.

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Hitler was a hero

He was. Only a few leaders in history have been able to take a country, from which was starved and bankrupt, and make it the strongest nation in the entire world. Additionally, our society and military were more organized then ever. We were powerful, and we restored our respect that had been lost after the Great War. We made our enemies tremble-- tremble they did; it is all thanks to one man.

Most mainstream white people would laugh at the claims if made in general terms

Yes, and Copernicus was threatened with prison because of his 'heretical' views, Fulton's steamship was considered a 'Folly', before the Wright Brothers no one believed it would ever be possible for man to fly, and on and on and on. My point is that the 'common wisdom' which forms so much of the mindset of 'mainstream' people (of all colors) is often completely wrong. It is the fear of being a little different which drives people to remain part of the 'herd', don't make waves, stay in the box, just conform and be happy regardless of whether you're living a lie or not.

It is difficult to think for yourself. It is not necessary to accept all tenets of any particular mindset, including WN, in order to recognize your own personal truths. Read, learn, make your own decisions and then live accordingly.

If that road leads you to some agreement with WN philosophy do not fear it. If it leads you to embrace WN philosophy then welcome new brother. If neither, then best wishes.

My question is this, if white people, who ARE proud of being white and DON'T like the constant double standards in mainstream news reporting, want to bring about change, how can this be accomplished given that the VAST majority of white Americans don't feel as WNs do or are afraid to feel as WNs do?

Let me ask you this; are you talking to any friends about your questioning of your own beliefs, i.e. ML King? Have you directed anyone to this website? Are you starting to see things a little differently? Maybe yes, maybe no but that's one small way to reach our goal: exposure. Their are some exteremly intelligent people on this forum who shatter the White Pride stereotype. Tell anyone who has a desire to learn about Stormfront, thats why we're here.

I agree with some of the ideology presented, but I have a hard time grasping the depth of the "claims" made by most WNs about the Jews. Most mainstream white people would laugh at the claims if made in general terms -

That's because they've been brainwashed by the jew run media and hollywood holohoax movies. They have become comfortably numb.

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The holocaust didn't happen

Yes it happened, but not to the jews.

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Communism was a Jewish plan

90% of the leaders were jews. Stalins mistress was a jew and her brother was the head of the NKVD.

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The Jewish "race" is in on a conspriracy that transends generation, national boundry, language etc to rule the world.

Although some would disagree, jew is a "religion" (and a filthy one at that) in my opinion and not a race. As for the conspiracy, some people can see it and some can't.

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Please understand, I'm not saying that the above generalizations aren't backed up by valid arguments and documented proof of sorts. Its just that most go against the assumptions I had before I started to read WN literature and ALL are the direct OPPOSITE of what most people in America "claim" to feel.

Of course the jews are portrayed as "innocent victims", but as an Armenian, I can tell you that they are the furthest thing from a victim. They are actually perpetrators of genocides rather than victims of. The jews were behind the Armenian Genocide.

I bet you never heard that before. Well, I have shocked quite a few Armenians too, but with all the hard to deny information I have gathered on this matter over the last few years, some come around, smell the coffee and wake up, others are just too brainwashed and have to be reprogrammed.

I'm not an anti but a new poster to this forum. I have been reading WN web site info for a while now (this site and a few others). I agree with some of the ideology presented, but I have a hard time grasping the depth of the "claims" made by most WNs about the Jews. Most mainstream white people would laugh at the claims if made in general terms -

Welcome to Stormfront!

You have to be very careful sifting what you read around here, and on pro-White sites on the 'net in general. There are a lot of undocumented claims and hyperbole. Use your own good judgement, and do your own research. I would however suggest that you drop what "most mainstream White people would laugh at" as a factor in your judgements. Most people, whatever their color, believe whatever drivel is shoveled to them by their televisions. The television is in no way whatever a source of truth.

Mainstream academia is best ingested with a spoon or two of salt as well, as most of its producers are just trying to keep their jobs.

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Martin Luther King was a communist/sex-hungry/racist

This isn't really very important, but I think the above is a much better description of MLK Jr. than the mainstream one.

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The US was tricked into WWII by the Jews and FDR

There was a lot of fishiness surrounding the hows, whos and whys of America's entrance into both WWI and WWII. I don't really want to get any further into it than that, because it's a not very relevant, and I'm not very familiar with the subject matter.

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FDR was the worst president in US history

He's right up there. He was a communist sympathizer, I think. He had some very shady goings-on.

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The US had advance notice of Pearl Harbor

I've read a great deal that suggests we did, at least at the top levels.

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The holocaust didn't happen

I can't really say the holocaust didn't happen (at least the genocide part, pretty much everyone here admits Jews - among others - were rounded up into concentration camps in Nazi Germany), but I don't need to. When someone says something happened, especially something as over-the-top outlandish and monstrous as the genocide of six million Jews, the burden of proof is on them, not on those who deny it. The Jews have done anything but prove their claim. Have you ever seen holocaust movies or read the 'evidence?' 'Shoddy' doesn't even begin to describe the evidence. It's all pictures of starving Jews (Germany was filled with starving people) and piles of shoes.

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Communism was a Jewish plan

Communism is synonymous with Judaism, at least it was in it's first fifty years. The Bolsheviks were largely Jews.

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Hitler was a hero

I don't think he was a hero, but I don't think he was a monster either.

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The Jewish "race" is in on a conspriracy that transends generation, national boundry, language etc to rule the world.
ETC.......

You might as well drop the quotes around race when referring to Jews. Jew is a racial term more than a religious one. Start reading about Jews and you'll know enough to know that. Ever heard the term "atheistic Jew?" It isn't an oxymoron, most American Jews are atheistic or at least non-practicing.

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Please understand, I'm not saying that the above generalizations aren't backed up by valid arguments and documented proof of sorts. Its just that most go against the assumptions I had before I started to read WN literature and ALL are the direct OPPOSITE of what most people in America "claim" to feel.

What's your point? George Bush can't say "nuclear," he consistently pronounces the word as "nookyoular." Do you expect the average lemming to be any different?

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My question is this, if white people, who ARE proud of being white and DON'T like the constant double standards in mainstream news reporting, want to bring about change, how can this be accomplished given that the VAST majority of white Americans don't feel as WNs do or are afraid to feel as WNs do?

You've asked a big question for White Nationalism. I say we do it one critical thinker at a time. Most people are followers, they will follow whatever lead their elites take. So, we need to get the elites onboard, at least that's my thinking on the matter. I'm not saying we should ignore the masses, but I do think we need to get a critical mass of elites first and foremost. Then we can generate more momentum.