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Re: Evolution. Were we really envolve from monkeys?

Well lets look at it from a scientific point of view, one of the laws is that matter can not be created or destroyed just change in states. So if this law is true how was the universe created? They say a body of mass exploded creating what we know as the Big Bang theory. Some people believe this now if matter can not be created or destroyed how did the mass or matter get there in the first place? If there was no univer if there was nothing how did that come to be? What out of no where mass or matter came then explodes. Makes no sense now does it. Any ways lets say this body of mass did some how magically appeared there even though that goes against one of the laws themselves let's look at another law. An object (or mass or matter) stays at rest until acted on by another force. Ok let's say this mass is there what other force acted apon it to make it explode? If that is the only matter? So your going to tell me this matter is just there no explanation how it got there even though science itself saids it can't happen and it blows itself up? Not only the matter created itself but it made itself unstable and acted upon itself? Even issac newton we all know him as one of the best scientist believed in a God. And if people believe that ghost and spirits and things like that are real why is the fact that a God is real so far out of the question? And the fact that you could be created by one so out of the question?

Re: Evolution. Were we really envolve from monkeys?

Originally Posted by Monster nagato

no we wernt i hate how science try to make you belive anything they say if we came from monkeys why are there monkeys now?

and i thought you where gone

This is what ignorant uneducated people say about evolution.. We didn't evolve from monkeys. Monkeys and us humans, share the same ancestors. We evolved from ancient prime apes and the prime ape family branched off into many types, humans and monkeys are two different things, we just share the same ancestors.

Re: Evolution. Were we really envolve from monkeys?

Originally Posted by Kira Vs L

Well lets look at it from a scientific point of view, one of the laws is that matter can not be created or destroyed just change in states. So if this law is true how was the universe created? They say a body of mass exploded creating what we know as the Big Bang theory. Some people believe this now if matter can not be created or destroyed how did the mass or matter get there in the first place? If there was no univer if there was nothing how did that come to be? What out of no where mass or matter came then explodes. Makes no sense now does it. Any ways lets say this body of mass did some how magically appeared there even though that goes against one of the laws themselves let's look at another law. An object (or mass or matter) stays at rest until acted on by another force. Ok let's say this mass is there what other force acted apon it to make it explode? If that is the only matter? So your going to tell me this matter is just there no explanation how it got there even though science itself saids it can't happen and it blows itself up? Not only the matter created itself but it made itself unstable and acted upon itself? Even issac newton we all know him as one of the best scientist believed in a God. And if people believe that ghost and spirits and things like that are real why is the fact that a God is real so far out of the question? And the fact that you could be created by one so out of the question?

bravo, free thinker. my point exactly. SCIENCE IS MORE ILLOGICAL THAN MAGIC IF you think for yourself and disregard what's been crammed into your mind.

Re: Evolution. Were we really envolve from monkeys?

Originally Posted by Orochimarus Slave

This is what ignorant uneducated people say about evolution.. We didn't evolve from monkeys. Monkeys and us humans, share the same ancestors. We evolved from ancient prime apes and the prime ape family branched off into many types, humans and monkeys are two different things, we just share the same ancestors.

let me get your argument: we didn't evolve from monkeys, but we share the same ancestor family, and we branched off, right?
well, you're then saying we didn't evolve from monkeys, but from their ancestors who became monkeys. that's no better than saying we are monkeys ourselves, if we come from the exact same place anyway.
it's harder to deny god than science if you ask me

Re: Evolution. Were we really envolve from monkeys?

Originally Posted by AnglePrey

let me get your argument: we didn't evolve from monkeys, but we share the same ancestor family, and we branched off, right?
well, you're then saying we didn't evolve from monkeys, but from their ancestors who became monkeys. that's no better than saying we are monkeys ourselves, if we come from the exact same place anyway.
it's harder to deny god than science if you ask me

the ancestors also became us.. you cant deny science, its fact, with actual experiments and physical evidence.. people like you make no sense.. you can believe wat you want too, but dont be spreading it around.. this is why the united states is almost last in science and mathematics test scores among first world countries..

Re: Evolution. Were we really envolve from monkeys?

Originally Posted by 8thHokage

the ancestors also became us.. you cant deny science, its fact, with actual experiments and physical evidence.. people like you make no sense.. you can believe wat you want too, but dont be spreading it around.. this is why the united states is almost last in science and mathematics test scores among first world countries..

did you do the experiments yourself? or did a book tell you so. see, there's this thing, it's called lies. and if you aren't careful and don't think, you'll believe one.
that being said, it's only right for you to be skeptical of a god, since a book tells me he exists. but i don't go solely based on that book alone. i use it to think for myself and yes, at times i do test its ideas and philosophy myself. you should have done the same with your 5th grade history book.

Re: Evolution. Were we really envolve from monkeys?

Originally Posted by AnglePrey

let me get your argument: we didn't evolve from monkeys, but we share the same ancestor family, and we branched off, right?
well, you're then saying we didn't evolve from monkeys, but from their ancestors who became monkeys. that's no better than saying we are monkeys ourselves, if we come from the exact same place anyway.
it's harder to deny god than science if you ask me

are you extremely stupid? or are you extremely ignorant? we SHARE the same ancestory as monkeys but we AREN'T monkeys... let use an example that stupid people can understand. the rabbit is in the Rodent family, it shares the same ancestors as rats but are rabbits rats? no unless you live in your own world of stupidity. and its not that easy to deny science if you ask me

Re: Evolution. Were we really envolve from monkeys?

Originally Posted by AnglePrey

did you do the experiments yourself? or did a book tell you so. see, there's this thing, it's called lies. and if you aren't careful and don't think, you'll believe one.
that being said, it's only right for you to be skeptical of a god, since a book tells me he exists. but i don't go solely based on that book alone. i use it to think for myself and yes, at times i do test its ideas and philosophy myself. you should have done the same with your 5th grade history book.

if you wanna go there, who wrote the bible? it surely wasn't god himself...MAN wrote the bible so what if everything in the bible were all lies? and if you don't go solely based on the bible then you aren't a good christian.

Doubt them. Question them,suspect them…and take agood, long look into theirhearts. Humans are the kind ofbeings who can’t put theirpain into words after all.Akiyama Shinichi, Liar Game

Re: Evolution. Were we really envolve from monkeys?

Originally Posted by Orochimarus Slave

if you wanna go there, who wrote the bible? it surely wasn't god himself...MAN wrote the bible so what if everything in the bible were all lies? and if you don't go solely based on the bible then you aren't a good christian.

it says in the bible that man who wrote the bible the words were given by God and as they wrote it God told them what to write and you say the bible is wrong but all the prophecies are actually coming true just read revelation For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Re: Evolution. Were we really envolve from monkeys?

Originally Posted by Orochimarus Slave

are you extremely stupid? or are you extremely ignorant? we SHARE the same ancestory as monkeys but we AREN'T monkeys... let use an example that stupid people can understand. the rabbit is in the Rodent family, it shares the same ancestors as rats but are rabbits rats? no unless you live in your own world of stupidity. and its not that easy to deny science if you ask me

you made me chuckle with this one. you're getting somewhere indeed.

of course it's easy to deny science, silly. all i have to do is demand proof of everything, and whatever i don't see, i don't believe. sounds ignorant right? well, that seems to be the base of scientific logic. scientific theories aren't stupid, but we as humans aren't gods, so in a way it is in fact ignorant. there's a distinct difference between humans and animals. so to say we are just a branch of animals doesn't explain why we have a conscious and a nature of pursuing knowledge. we should be just another new animal, like rabbits, per say.

and "who wrote the bible" is synonymous with "why are there still monkeys"
plus, i never said i was a christian. goes to show you're quick to assume and grab onto what you've been shown.

Re: Evolution. Were we really envolve from monkeys?

No, as far as we currently known evidence has led us to assume we and other primates including monkeys are ancestor from the same species... We are not the same species... We did not evolve from monkeys... We both diverged along an evolutionary path long ago from the same family... We are far far distant cousins.

we split from monkeys roughly 20,000,000 years ago
from Chimpanzees as early as 8,000,000 and as late as 5,000,000

Re: Evolution. Were we really envolve from monkeys?

Originally Posted by AnglePrey

you made me chuckle with this one. you're getting somewhere indeed.

of course it's easy to deny science, silly. all i have to do is demand proof of everything, and whatever i don't see, i don't believe. sounds ignorant right? well, that seems to be the base of scientific logic. scientific theories aren't stupid, but we as humans aren't gods, so in a way it is in fact ignorant. there's a distinct difference between humans and animals. so to say we are just a branch of animals doesn't explain why we have a conscious and a nature of pursuing knowledge. we should be just another new animal, like rabbits, per say.

and "who wrote the bible" is synonymous with "why are there still monkeys"
plus, i never said i was a christian. goes to show you're quick to assume and grab onto what you've been shown.

Re: Evolution. Were we really envolve from monkeys?

From where I stand now, I don't know what to believe.. Is this place we call Earth and the things we see actually what we are seeing? I sometimes I wonder if this is even reality. I was in a spot once where I couldn't tell reality from the real world and let me tell you it's ****ing scary.. And by what we are created and where we came from does not matter to me anymore.. I'm living now and being "Human" besides, humans are capable of things that are mind blowing. Like a friend of mine told me a story about a man that was walking along the highway back from work and the weather that day had been the weather you would see when a Tornado might drop down somewhere. Well in that moment as he was walking home, a Tornado dropped drown RIGHT on top of him. So he started running and got up to speeds faster than a race horse... This is what we would call, "Adreneline Rush". Were we made do to that just by coincidence, I don't think so.. So perhaps something is out there.. The story I told by my friend, he got the story from the person himself. True story.

Re: Evolution. Were we really envolve from monkeys?

Re: Evolution. Were we really envolve from monkeys?

Originally Posted by Son of God

Wait - what is your stance here?..

by disguising my stance, i'm making a point. i'm saying you should be a free thinker rather than base everything on one stance. even if you believe in Jesus, it wouldn't hurt to think about what other beliefs consist of, just to gain perspective. i even do research on satanism sometimes. your enemy knows you, why not know him?

edit: i'm not saying conform your views as a christian, because the christian religion is the religion of all religion that tells you there is no middle ground. conforming beliefs plays into what the antichrist's plans are, according to the christian belief. so don't get rid of your basis of belief, but don't be ignorant either.

Re: Evolution. Were we really envolve from monkeys?

Originally Posted by AP2k

We have a common ancestor we didn't evolve from them. Didn't you just say you were going to college? Have fun.

are reading the first few responses, i believe this one mirrors my sentiments, brief, to the point and correct. i feel not that it is unoriginal to quote but irresponsible to say the exact same thing as someone else without quoting them, it pollutes and overinflates the world with similar opinions that have previously been expressed.