Yeah I watched that live. He put it very well but it's what the majority think anyway. A point that I feel is relevant that no one seems to mention is there are way more foreign players and way more "people of colour" (not keen on this phrase) in football these days. So it comes as no surprise that we still get racism at football matches. I'm in no way suggesting this makes it OK but it's just a fact.

The first black player I ever saw was Clyde Best playing for West Ham back in the early 70s and even as a young boy I was stunned at the abuse he would get. The authorities can ban idiots from matches etc with lifelong bans but it achieves very little in my opinion. As someone who would go to football matches in the late 70s and most of the 80s I've witnessed my fair share of stupidity and to my eternal shame be caught up in some real nasty violence. The culprit to a lot of these offences is stupidity and drink which I have seen bring out the worst in people many times. It's no surprise that they are either totally ashamed of their behaviour the following day or they can't even remember doing it. Many racists like to hide in plain sight and keep their mouth shut but after a couple of beers all the crap flows out showing their true colours.

Raheem and John's comments about the media fuelling racial hatred is very true and they (the media) use it for everything in our society. It's become endemic and I despise it.

I've heard this many times when I worked in the security industry. A man steals something from a shop now I guarantee 75-80% will describe the thief just as a male or a man if he is white. But if he is black he will be descibed as a "black" man.

Yeah I watched that live. He put it very well but it's what the majority think anyway. A point that I feel is relevant that no one seems to mention is there are way more foreign players and way more "people of colour" (not keen on this phrase) in football these days. So it comes as no surprise that we still get racism at football matches. I'm in no way suggesting this makes it OK but it's just a fact.

The first black player I ever saw was Clyde Best playing for West Ham back in the early 70s and even as a young boy I was stunned at the abuse he would get. The authorities can ban idiots from matches etc with lifelong bans but it achieves very little in my opinion. As someone who would go to football matches in the late 70s and most of the 80s I've witnessed my fair share of stupidity and to my eternal shame be caught up in some real nasty violence. The culprit to a lot of these offences is stupidity and drink which I have seen bring out the worst in people many times. It's no surprise that they are either totally ashamed of their behaviour the following day or they can't even remember doing it. Many racists like to hide in plain sight and keep their mouth shut but after a couple of beers all the crap flows out showing their true colours.

Raheem and John's comments about the media fuelling racial hatred is very true and they (the media) use it for everything in our society. It's become endemic and I despise it.

I've heard this many times when I worked in the security industry. A man steals something from a shop now I guarantee 75-80% will describe the thief just as a male or a man if he is white. But if he is black he will be descibed as a "black" man.

That is true. Whenever a crime is reported on here the offender is described as Maori, Pacific Islander, Muslim etc. but never Pakeha or white male / female.

Man even if I worked at a bank and had any sort of inkling that the check was off for some reason I wouldn't have given a shit. It's not my job to speculate. Enjoy your money, sir.

I got a serious glare from my manager at a staff meeting about shoplifting when I worked retail. I said that as long as someone wasn't obvious about it, I didn't really care. If you can pull it off, good job, buddy. Pay me more than minimum wage if you want me to give a fuck, corporate swine.

Man even if I worked at a bank and had any sort of inkling that the check was off for some reason I wouldn't have given a shit. It's not my job to speculate. Enjoy your money, sir.

I got a serious glare from my manager at a staff meeting about shoplifting when I worked retail. I said that as long as someone wasn't obvious about it, I didn't really care. If you can pull it off, good job, buddy. Pay me more than minimum wage if you want me to give a fuck, corporate swine.

For real—I'm certainly not going to risk my neck confronting some shoplifter for $8/hr.

Man even if I worked at a bank and had any sort of inkling that the check was off for some reason I wouldn't have given a shit. It's not my job to speculate. Enjoy your money, sir.

I got a serious glare from my manager at a staff meeting about shoplifting when I worked retail. I said that as long as someone wasn't obvious about it, I didn't really care. If you can pull it off, good job, buddy. Pay me more than minimum wage if you want me to give a fuck, corporate swine.

For real—I'm certainly not going to risk my neck confronting some shoplifter for $8/hr.

Seriously. I worked out there out of borderline desperation, not some kind of higher calling.

Man even if I worked at a bank and had any sort of inkling that the check was off for some reason I wouldn't have given a shit. It's not my job to speculate. Enjoy your money, sir.

I got a serious glare from my manager at a staff meeting about shoplifting when I worked retail. I said that as long as someone wasn't obvious about it, I didn't really care. If you can pull it off, good job, buddy. Pay me more than minimum wage if you want me to give a fuck, corporate swine.

For real—I'm certainly not going to risk my neck confronting some shoplifter for $8/hr.

Seriously. I worked out there out of borderline desperation, not some kind of higher calling.

Man even if I worked at a bank and had any sort of inkling that the check was off for some reason I wouldn't have given a shit. It's not my job to speculate. Enjoy your money, sir.

I got a serious glare from my manager at a staff meeting about shoplifting when I worked retail. I said that as long as someone wasn't obvious about it, I didn't really care. If you can pull it off, good job, buddy. Pay me more than minimum wage if you want me to give a fuck, corporate swine.

For real—I'm certainly not going to risk my neck confronting some shoplifter for $8/hr.

Seriously. I worked out there out of borderline desperation, not some kind of higher calling.

I encourage most stealing that doesn’t hurt anyone.

I just st stole a round of drinks because they made me wait too long for my table and I had made a reservation. Still got the bar tab in my pocket

Man even if I worked at a bank and had any sort of inkling that the check was off for some reason I wouldn't have given a shit. It's not my job to speculate. Enjoy your money, sir.

I got a serious glare from my manager at a staff meeting about shoplifting when I worked retail. I said that as long as someone wasn't obvious about it, I didn't really care. If you can pull it off, good job, buddy. Pay me more than minimum wage if you want me to give a fuck, corporate swine.

For real—I'm certainly not going to risk my neck confronting some shoplifter for $8/hr.

Seriously. I worked out there out of borderline desperation, not some kind of higher calling.

It's funny that they pay you these stupid amounts and expect you to be a team player who cares about the company on a personal level. And be grateful for it!