Welcome guys in our Forumotion where we may help you find our classmates whatever year you graduated! We are your friends who are basically batchmates of 1977. Come on have coffee with us! Again, thanks for visiting our blog!!!

Mareng Letty,I already started back to work with little pressure such that patingin tingin at palakad lakad lang hehehee…my officemates here are very accommodating naman they knew I am still on the recovery stage. I would like to give din credit to you Mards, for supporting teacher Larry in this “Bahay ni kuya at ate” and make this a place for us to unwind. Look, even your kids are enjoying a lot here kaya kudos to your effort. I guess we have to expand more in search for our other missing batchmates. Mahirap maghanap lalo we have no other resources just like what happened in search of Elmer de Guzman.

Just a piece of conversations :Your piece of two questionnaires do not require a lot more thinking bcoz’ everyone knew exactly what best choice to make. But my experience abroad is relevant to this topic. We Pinoys are very conscious about the right grammar hence, more often than not, we speak in tagalog despite the fact that we are the best English speaking nation in the world. In countries like Malaysia and India, their common speaking tongue is English irregardless whether their grammar is bad or not. The common thinking is that they are used to speaking English and their own national language are of course a part of their conversation. To most educated Indians for example, I have seen the continuity of their verbal English speaking despite the wrong grammar and they don’t lapse at a mere thought, unlike me when I have to ponder and tried to pick-up the right words per se. This is where the conversation rather ends in distraught against me and not to Indians because they told me that they are used to speaking English in their own country even at home,office,street and in school. But mind you, when you read their report, this is where you would laugh at the mere sight of wrong grammar in their English sentences. In contrast however, they were impressed with my written English report and wonder how pinoys are really good in the English grammar.

In my previous companies where meetings and open discussion on urgent issues require stringent and fast conversations, people who are very fast to speak in English are more often than not the most admired in leadership qualities because they think fast and express their thoughts in English fast so that listeners aren’t yawning during that period. Never mind the wrong grammar as the Japanese said, it’s the thought that counts and the manner in which you want to convey your message directly. I worked in National Panasonic Indonesia that’s why I experience a lot in this kind of conversations.

In our country thousands of Pinoys are bound to work abroad due to economic problem. This will continue to go on for years to come. Our children or the children of our children I’m sure will follow the same path. But let me stress this very clearly that the new generation nowadays should be transparent in English, meaning not only fluent in the written but rather more articulate in verbal English communication. That’s why some of our kids are being taught at home to speak taglish or straight English because he or she can earn this in future specially when they mingle with people of different nations in the country they opt to work for. Salamat po !!!

Share your thoughts to some topic discussion and it isgood to hear from you. We can learn a lot from you perhapsand might share these to our kids...our new generation.

THIS IS HOW I SURVEIL YOUR CLANDESTIVE VISIT... BUT I GUESS THEY ARE ACTIVE FORUMOVERS NOT LOGGED IN, CUZ THEIR ADDRESSES ARE VERY FAMILIAR...

THE ADMIN WILL EVEN KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT INSIDE THE HOUSE OF MGA KUYA AT MGA ATE!

All the details about your computer info, address, lockbox, contact numbers, everything! I GOT ALL YOUR NAMES ALREADY! Just to inform all viewers and readers that YOU ARE IDENTIFIED! Be good to us, history will not repeat itself here! I HOPE ALL BARISTAS HERE WILL NOT FEEL I MEAN THEIR PRIVACY IS TRACKED DOWN. It's for our own safety!

Lastly, when I click the IP address on the chart, the IPGETINFO map will pop up and open another window showing the exact location of the person and about like 30 information in details. So careful po dito sa aming tahanan!

"A New Beginning" is the theme of our upcoming party and also the forthcoming Annual election. Let us all join hands, let us all join in prayers for the betterment of our batch, let us after more than 30 years be united. We are all hoping that each and everyone of us will do it's share for the attainment of our initial objective of having a new beginning. Let us all look forward and forget all the what happened and transpired in the past. Please forget and forgive...yes batchmates...it is just a matter of accepting our faults and failures.

Let us all forget the past, let us all forgive all the people who one way or another hurt you or hurt us. Let us all accept that we are just human and we all comit mistakes and misgivings to each and everyone. Let us all be one in uniting our batch.

FORGIVE...FORGIVE...FORGIVE... and let go all then hurts and pains. Let us all accept that each and everyone of us has it's own strength and weaknesses. Each and everyone of us must learn how to love especially "loving your enemy", loving the person who hurts you so much, loving the person who cause you anxiety, loving the person who cause you so much pain. It is much better to forgive and be at peace with the world rather than clinging on the hurts ...the pain...the unforgiveness. Having a clean heart and mind will result to a peaceful world...a peaceful community...a peaceful ahs batch 77...

Let us all ACCEPT each and everyone... ACCEPT them as what they are...ACCEPT them in CHRIST NAME...

GOING BACK, MANNY, YOU WILL AGREE WITH ME THAT BASIC TO OUR CONSTITUTION IS THE DUE PROCESS OF LAW THAT SHOULD TRANSPIRE BETWEEN THE RIGHTS AND CLAIMS OF THE VICTIM AND THE RIGHT OF THE OFFENDER TO BE HEARD, DEFEND HIMSELF AND PAY FOR HIS CRIME. Manny Boy di ba maging secular or civil life natin di tayo basta-basta forgive. BEFORE WE MAY EASILY PASS THE RECOMMENDATION TO FORGIVE, THINK OF SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE WRONGED YOU BEFORE WHO UNTIL NOW YOU HAVE NOT FORGIVEN YET OR YOU TOTALLY AVOIDED UNTIL NOW? Kasi kahit si Cristo may mga Pariseo, SAdeo, Eskriba at nasa Sanedrin na hindi Niya kinikibo at never Nyang pinatawad. Maging si Hudas nga nagbigti at bumagsak, lumabas ang bituka sa pinagbigtihan Niya kasi walang naging kapatawaran sa ginawa nyang betrayal di ba? THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS ON EARTH THAT ARE EASIER SAID THAN DONE! Let's face up to it, tama? IT'S HARD TO PLAY HERO TO ISSUES THAT ARE BEYOND OUR CAPACITY TO SOLVE IF THE PREVIOUS AND PRESENT OFFICERS ARE BLIND ABOUT IT!

ISA PANG KAISIPAN MANNY C., IN THE FIRST PLACE DID YOU EVER CONFRONT THESE PEOPLE ALREADY ABOUT YOUR OWN KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT TRANSPIRED AND IS STILL PRESENTLY TRANSPIRING, BAGO NIYO KAMI SABIHAN DITO?

New officers should take this into account, The Eight ( 8 ) Biblical Steps To Christlike Forgiveness :

Una sa lahat Manny Boy, at the outset, one basic consideration for forgiveness is when the person asks for it. While trying to bring reconciliation and healing between many bitter, hostile, and hurting people, I recognized that simply to ask "will you forgive me?" wasn't bringing the kind of emotional and spiritual healing that Jesus Christ came to give to a broken world. Using Matthew 18:15-20 as a basis, I searched the Scriptures for biblical insights into confession, repentance, asking for forgiveness, restitution, reconciliation, and brotherhood.

IN THAT LIGHT, MR. MANNY CORTEZ (THOUGH I ADMIRE YOUR SINCERITY TO EFFECT UNITY IN THE GROUP), I HAVE USED THESE EIGHT STEPS TO COMPLETE FORGIVENESS IN MANY CASES. THEREFORE, I OFFER THEM TO YOU WITH THE HOPE THAT YOUR EXPERIENCE AND BIBLICAL INSIGHTS WILL IMPROVE UPON THEM. IN PRATICAL TERMS, TRUE REPENTANCE WILL FLOW QUITE EASILY--BUT IMMATURE, FALSE/WORLDLY NON-REPENTANCE, THOSE HAVING A FORM OF GODLINESS ALWAYS SEEKING TRUTH BUT NEVER PRACTICING IT (2 TIMOTHY 3), WILL LACK SOME OF THESE ELEMENTS AND/OR SPIRITUAL DEPTH. THEREFORE THESE STEPS ARE PRESENTED IN GREATER DETAIL TO AID IN BRINGING TRUE REPENTANCE AND FORGIVENESS OR UNCOVERING/EXPOSING EMPTY WORDS (EPHESIANS 5:6-11) AND THE "FORM OF GODLINESS." WE KNOW 'QUOTE, UNQUOTE' IN JOURNALISM DI BA?

A quick note about forgiveness which is often wrongly taught--Christians are to have a heart of forgiveness, such as Christ displayed upon the cross (Luke 23:24) and God has toward us sinners (Colossians 3:13). But often Christians are told to GIVE forgiveness for their own health or so that their sins can be forgiven, even if the sinner is unrepentant--this is unbiblical and destructive to the individual believer. IT'S EASY TO SAY FORGIVE A PERSON IF YOU WERE NOT THE ONE FAULTED OR WRONGED. Madaming nagkakamali sa pagamit ng MAGPATAWAD KA NALANG CUZ EVEN CHRIST AND GOD THE FATHER DID NOT FORGIVE SINNERS WHO WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR SIN. PART AND PARCEL OF FORGIVENESS SCRUPTURALLY SPEAKING IS THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF SIN AND ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS, PERO WAIT MERON PA.

ISA ISAHIN NATIN, MANNY ANG EIGHT STEPS HANE?

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Step 1: Have the OFFENDER confess specifically to the OFFENDED what was done or said wrong that caused offense.

It appears that the specific act of confessing the OFFENDER's sins (Leviticus 5.5, Numbers 5:7, James 5:16, 1 John 1:9), demonstrates to the OFFENDED party the OFFENDER's godly sorrow, the OFFENDER's knowledge of the sin committed, and the OFFENDER's willingness to accept responsibility and consequences for their actions.

WARNING: If the OFFENDER cannot state specifically what he did or said that was wrong, his confession is incomplete. If the OFFENDER finds he cannot remember enough of the facts of his offense, he should ask the OFFENDED (be sure the OFFENDER has the correct spiritual attitude to hear) to help the OFFENDER recall from the OFFENDED's perspective, what was done or said wrongly.

WARNING: Failure by the OFFENDER on this step MAY BE a sign of rejecting the Word of God and the Work of the HOLY SPIRIT. It MAY BE the OFFENDER needs to study the Bible and compare GOD'S WORD with the OFFENDER's life.

WARNING: Do NOT proceed beyond any step until successfully completed! To do so adds to a "form of Godliness." 2 Tim. 3:5

If the OFFENDER comes to an OFFENDED to ask for forgiveness, and cannot recall what the OFFENDER did or said that was wrong, or the OFFENDER is unwilling to listen as to how the OFFENDED was hurt, then the process must be stopped! Next, ask the OFFENDER to come back when he has understood for what he is asking forgiveness. Failure to complete this step correctly will result in increased hurt and division.

NOTE: If at any time an OFFENDER is unwilling to listen to how the OFFENDED brother was sinned against, or if the OFFENDER is not willing to ask for forgiveness and be reconciled, the OFFENDER must be confronted with his unwillingness to change. If the OFFENDER persists in a wrong attitude, then you must proceed according to the biblical principles in Matthew 18:15-20 if the OFFENDED is unwilling to listen or begin the forgiveness process and be reconciled. In that case, the OFFENDED must be confronted with his unwillingness to forgive. If the OFFENDED does not repent of an unforgiving heart, he must be taken through the next step in the Matthew 18:15-2O process.

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Step 2: Have the OFFENDING party identify the biblical principle(s) he violated.

In this step, the process of identifying the actual biblical values and principles that were violated helps both the OFFENDER and the OFFENDED to learn from God's Word, and learn from their experiences. As a result, their witness encourages the whole Body of Christ to grow more holy.

If the OFFENDER is unable to identify a biblical value, then either the OFFENDED, or a third brother (a peacemaker or a witness) should take the necessary time to search the Bible together until the biblical values and principles are found. Then the OFFENDER and the OFFENDED should come to an agreement upon the biblical values that were violated.

If the OFFENDED does not agree with the identified biblical values and cannot identify any himself, then an appropriate amount of time should be given for additional discovery, (the witnesses or peacemakers help in this process). If no biblical values are discovered or agreed upon, then the Matthew 18:15-2O should be taken to the next appropriate step; that is, tell it to the Church.

NOTE: The reason for proceeding to the next step in the Matthew 18:15-20 process is to bring other godly men and women into the process to help identify what is wrong, what is necessary to correct the broken relationship, and to oversee that all parties fulfill God's directions in their lives.

Therefore, when you come to an impasse, either alone or as a peacemaker, tell each party that you need the help of others. Ask for suggestions as to whom each party would be willing to listen to for spiritual direction. Then call another meeting and proceed to the next step. Some Scriptural helps to identify biblical values and principles are: Matthew 5:1-12; Romans 12--15; 1 Corinthians 13; Galatians 5--6; Ephesians 4-6; James 1--5; 2 Peter 1:5-9.

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Step 3: Have the OFFENDER ask the OFFENDED "How were you wronged when I did (or said)...........?"

This step allows the OFFENDER to experience in part and hopefully bear the OFFENDED's burdens, (Hebrews 13:2) in a large way, by how the OFFENDED was impacted by the offense. We know that Christ suffered and died on the cross for our sins, when we offended Him--it appears important for the human side of the model for the OFFENDER to fully understand the consequences and impact of his sin against the OFFENDED. In addition, this can enable the OFFENDED to be released from some of the pain and hurt caused by the offense. Matthew 18:23-35.

WARNING: If the OFFENDED is not willing to share how he was sinned against by the offense, he may be acting as a Pharisee (not really wronged, but only interested in being judgmental in a unbiblical way--Matthew 7:1-5). Or, if the OFFENDED is not willing to seek reconciliation and is hanging on to his bitterness and resentment, the OFFENDED should be confronted with his "unspiritualness" and if unwilling to change, should be taken to the next step in the Matthew 18:15-20 process.

CAUTION: If this step is successfully completed, Do Not Stop Here, the tendency is for both parties is to "feel" in closer communion and, therefore, believe that the restoration process has been completed. It hasn't, proceed to Step 4.

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Step 4: Have the OFFENDER recall, as best he can, a time when they were wronged/offended by another, in the same way they caused offense.

Examples are not always easy to recall in a short amount of time, but stick with it, the rewards will be more than worth it. Remember the biblical values and principles in Step 2, and this should help the OFFENDER to remember a time when someone sinned against them, violating those same biblical values principles, and how Christ has changed them, 2 Corinthians 1:1-7.

The OFFENDER'S sharing of how he was impacted when he was offended in a similar way, will help the OFFENDED believe that there has been full communication between them, and that the OFFENDER does understand what they did or said wrong, and how they hurt the OFFENDED.

WARNING: If the OFFENDER can not share a time when they were hurt by the violation of the same biblical values/principles, there is good reason to believe the OFFENDER still does not fully understand what he has done wrong, and will not be able to grow fully from this experience. Therefore, the OFFENDER should repeat Steps 1 through 4 until he does understand. All sin has it's origin in pride, power and control. Therefore, everyone is subject to similar experiences, though not in specific details.

If after an appropriate amount of time, there seems to be little understanding, then proceed to the next appropriate step in Matthew 18:15-2O.

If the OFFENDED seems to be less than satisfied with the OFFENDER'S understanding and sharing, check with the OFFENDED to be sure you understand what it is the OFFENDED feels was less than satisfactory, and in your discernment, if you think the OFFENDER has misunderstood, then have the OFFENDER repeat Steps 1,2, and 3.

WARNING: However, if you think the OFFENDER has shared appropriately and does understand, and the OFFENDED party continues to hang on to their bitterness and hurt, by asking for more and more understanding from the OFFENDER, then the OFFENDED must be confronted with their unforgiving attitude and proceed to the next appropriate step in Matthew 18:15-20.

In either case, give appropriate time for recall and sharing. If this step cannot be fully completed to the satisfaction of all, then the one who cannot recall, share, or accept, should be confronted with his lack of insight, wisdom, and spiritual imaturity. If he remains unchanged, then proceed to the next appropriate step of Matthew 18:15-20.

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Step 5: Have the OFFENDER restate their sin(s) expressing Godly Sorrow (2 Corinthians 7:10-14) AND wait for the OFFENDED's response.

I used to say for step 5: Ask for forgiveness. But the more I studied, the more I realized the asking put an unbiblical pressure/expectation on the OFFENDED. A simple confession before God and others, with Godly Sorrow is enough. The response from the OFFENDED is fully the OFFENDED's responsibility.

By now, a majority of the reconciliation process is completed and this step is a check point to be sure that all previous steps have been completed successfully. For example, if the OFFENDER still hesitates or does not demonstrate Godly Sorrow after an appropriate amount of time, then you must proceed to the next appropriate step in Matthew 18:15-2O.

WARNING: If the OFFENDED does not give unconditional forgiveness upon biblical repentance, at this step, then he must be confronted with an unforgiving spirit, then proceed to the next appropriate step in Matthew 18:15-2O.

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Step 7: Have the OFFENDER ask, "What can I do differently, so I won't hurt you again?"

Here the biblical act of repentance and the turning away from his sin is brought into the forgiveness act. Each now bears the trust and responsibility to bear one another's burdens, and together work out a way in which they can show love and develop trust, based on biblical values and principles.

It's acceptable to include follow-up meetings, as necessary, to gain feedback, establish accountability so that reconciliation, restitution, and restoration have been completed.

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Far from the normal charge of punishment or revenge, restitution involves the whole Christian Community including the OFFENDER and OFFENDED, pursuing justice, mercy and faithfulness.

Here the OFFENDER recognizes what impact and consequences his sin has caused the OFFENDED, and is more than willing to do all he can to give back more than his sin cost the OFFENDED, and the OFFENDED shares equally the responsibility to bear the burden of restitution.

WARNING: If the OFFENDER stubbornly balks or refuses to participate righteously in the restitution process, then the Matthew 18 process of treating them as a non-believer opens the possibility the OFFENDED could/should take the OFFENDER to secular court, seeking justice from one not in the Christian Community.

WARNING: Here, it's possible for the OFFENDED to wrongly try to extract every penny (Matthew 5:26) from his OFFENDER, this demonstrates an unbiblical forgiveness (Matthew 18:21-35). The same is true of "I can forgive you, but I won't forget it." The OFFENDED must be reminded of two cogent passages, 1 Corinthians 6:1-11 (not shaming God by going to the secular court against another believer), and Matthew 18: 21-35, (God's definition of forgiveness).

WARNING: If the OFFENDED continues unsatisfied in his claim, then he is to be confronted with his unforgiving spirit, if he refuses to give complete forgiveness, then proceed to the next appropriate Matthew 18:15-2O step.

WARNING: If given enough time and the OFFENDER and/or the OFFENDED is unwilling to commit to a follow-through plan of restoration, then there is serious question of rejecting the work of God's Word and Holy Spirit and thers is not a complete repentance or forgiveness, Therefore, he must be confronted and if unwilling to change, proceed to the next appropriate step in the Matthew 18:15-20 process.

This process when done correctly by all parties, will bring a Holy Spirit directed reconciliation and a spiritual reunion that builds and does not tear down (1 Corinthians 13:10). May God bless you as a peacemaker!

Circulation of an email without the knowledge of the other party which is supposedly personal email between two party is a signed of traitor. Beware of this person it might be you the next victim! For clarity, it is a general statement without mentioning any name!It is jut a reminder! Many thanks!

My Prayer : "DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THERE'S ONE SOUL LIKE MANNY CORTEZ WHO STILL ASPIRES FOR A NEW BEGINNING FORTHE BATCH. I LIFT UP TO YOU THE NEXT BATCH OF OFFICERS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES WITHOUT CLOSURES YET, DEAL WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE UNBECOMING OF AHS BATCH77 OFFICERS! AND SET A GOOD EXAMPLE TO ALL ARAULLIANS, PAST AND PRESENT! MORE IMPORTANTLY, MAY WE GRASP AND APPROPRIATE THE TRUE MEANING OF FORGIVENESS! IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN!