I seek the sheet music for the Sonata of Darkness, a single movement of which disfigured me and killed my friend, so that I may obliterate it such that none may suffer the same fate.

Oh man, that was a wicked awesome castlevania game._________________"No, but evil is still being --Is having reason-- Being reasonable! Mousie understands? Is always being reason. Is punishing world for not being... Like in head. Is always reason. World should be different, is reason."
-Ed, from Digger

If I recall correctly, Thy, the last time you and Sam got into it about evidence, you "supported" your position by name-dropping a book you'd never read. When Sam called you on it (justified by the book's total disagreement with your position), you invented some sort of conspiracy to whinge about as an excuse to avoid admitting your dishonesty.

I don't think there's much merit in your "willingness to debate" high ground attitude._________________"To love deeply in one direction makes us more loving in all others."
- Anne-Sophie Swetchine

I thought about putting this in the MRA thread, but I don't want to dredge that up. Does anyone know why men are 90% of the prison population in the US. That is seriously fucked up. I looked for a little info, but I kinda need a summary if anyone's got any ideas.

I know there is a lot of patriarchy bullshit that leads to women being 'protected' which I'm sure extends to not doling out prison sentences left and right, but I didn't realise the disparity was so high._________________[Stripeypants has enabled lurk mode.]

I thought about putting this in the MRA thread, but I don't want to dredge that up. Does anyone know why men are 90% of the prison population in the US. That is seriously fucked up. I looked for a little info, but I kinda need a summary if anyone's got any ideas.

I know there is a lot of patriarchy bullshit that leads to women being 'protected' which I'm sure extends to not doling out prison sentences left and right, but I didn't realise the disparity was so high.

According to numbers I got here, women make up ~495 of the those held federally in Canada, whereas there are a total of ~13,758 on any given day, meaning women make up for ~3.5% of the total federal inmate population. And that's after a 10 year period in which men's incarceration went up 6% and women's incercation rate went up 32%.

As far as why it happens... I dunno? The prevalence of gangs (many of which seem to be mostly men) would be one answer, but I'm just guessing._________________Whatever happened to the heroes?

If I recall correctly, Thy, the last time you and Sam got into it about evidence, you "supported" your position by name-dropping a book you'd never read. When Sam called you on it (justified by the book's total disagreement with your position), you invented some sort of conspiracy to whinge about as an excuse to avoid admitting your dishonesty.

I don't think there's much merit in your "willingness to debate" high ground attitude.

Don't get it mixed up with the last time you and I had an evidence issue, though, when you "supported" your position by name-dropping a study that you'd never read. And when Dogen and I called you on it (justified by the study's total disagreement with your position), you started demanding that we make your arguments for you.

You are just not reliable when it comes to any kind of claim you make about evidence._________________"To love deeply in one direction makes us more loving in all others."
- Anne-Sophie Swetchine

It's almost as if you read what you want to hear though, cause I'm pretty sure you guys are just reading the abstracts and no further.

You have this exactly backwards. In both cases you were the one who failed to read the material before citing it. In the case of the book, you dodged the question for pages, but then eventually admitted that you hadn't read it.

In the case of the study, Dogen and I did look through the actual study, which wasn't even about the topic we were discussing. However, what little the study did have to say on topic was actually exactly opposite to your claim. Obviously you hadn't read that one either.

In neither conversation did you demonstrate any understanding that it is wrong to cite sources when you don't know what they say. And that is the point. You are not trustworthy when you make claims about evidence, because you cite sources falsely, and never admit it is wrong to do so, even when you get caught.

But look, I understand, you don't trust me, either. The lucky thing is that you don't need to trust me, you just need to reread the conversations. They both happened (drumroll, please) in this very thread (p121-126 & p166-168). You talk a lot about your personal evolution - maybe the current you has finally developed enough that you can admit you were wrong._________________"To love deeply in one direction makes us more loving in all others."
- Anne-Sophie Swetchine

I thought about putting this in the MRA thread, but I don't want to dredge that up. Does anyone know why men are 90% of the prison population in the US. That is seriously fucked up. I looked for a little info, but I kinda need a summary if anyone's got any ideas.

I know there is a lot of patriarchy bullshit that leads to women being 'protected' which I'm sure extends to not doling out prison sentences left and right, but I didn't realise the disparity was so high.

According to numbers I got here, women make up ~495 of the those held federally in Canada, whereas there are a total of ~13,758 on any given day, meaning women make up for ~3.5% of the total federal inmate population. And that's after a 10 year period in which men's incarceration went up 6% and women's incercation rate went up 32%.

As far as why it happens... I dunno? The prevalence of gangs (many of which seem to be mostly men) would be one answer, but I'm just guessing.

gangs and violent crimes in general (murder, rape, assault) - i would guess men are more likely to commit those sorts of crimes. but then i remembered that a large part of the prison population is there for often victimless drug charges. i would not expect a huge difference in drug usage rates between men and women (maybe there is, but there are sure a lot of female users and addicts) - so that would suggest that women do, in fact, get lighter sentences for drug possession._________________aka: neverscared!

It's almost as if you read what you want to hear though, cause I'm pretty sure you guys are just reading the abstracts and no further.

You have this exactly backwards. In both cases you were the one who failed to read the material before citing it. In the case of the book, you dodged the question for pages, but then eventually admitted that you hadn't read it.

In the case of the study, Dogen and I did look through the actual study, which wasn't even about the topic we were discussing. However, what little the study did have to say on topic was actually exactly opposite to your claim. Obviously you hadn't read that one either.

In neither conversation did you demonstrate any understanding that it is wrong to cite sources when you don't know what they say. And that is the point. You are not trustworthy when you make claims about evidence, because you cite sources falsely, and never admit it is wrong to do so, even when you get caught.

But look, I understand, you don't trust me, either. The lucky thing is that you don't need to trust me, you just need to reread the conversations. They both happened (drumroll, please) in this very thread (p121-126 & p166-168). You talk a lot about your personal evolution - maybe the current you has finally developed enough that you can admit you were wrong.

Your understanding of burden of proof is hilarious at best, and the nature of a bet completely eludes you.

I was right on both occasions.

However, you can feel free to admit you were derailing the actual discussion with trivial and irrelevant statements at any time.

Go ahead and tell that to sam or anakin or whoever is putting you up to this, because I'm sure you're being pressured to respond for them.