The first thing you notice when looking at the rifle is the striking stock design. The butt stock is adjustable every-which-way and can fold for easy transport. The pistol grip is AR-15 compatible, just like the new Savage bolt action Model 10 BAS, so it can be swapped out for something the operator is more comfortable with. The free-floating handguard features rails at 3, 6, 9, 10:30 and 12 ‘o clock positions.

Stock folded. 20″ barrel. Interesting that the bolt is lock closed, but trigger is accessible.

Remington have taken no chances and have designed the rifle to be compatible with all of top contenders for selection as the next US Military long range sniper cartridge. The MSR can be easily switch between calibers by changing the barrel, bolt face and magazine. At the moment it is compatible with .338 Lapua Magnum, .338 Norma Magnum, .300 Winchester Magnum and 7.62mm NATO. The fluted barrels are available in 20, 22, 24 and 27 inches in length and can be swapped out in minutes. Accuracy is 1 MOA at 1500 meters.

Overall this rifle seems to meet, and in many cases exceed, the SOCOM Precision Sniper Rifle (PSR) requirements. It is good to see Remington MPD (Military Products Division) innovating. They have not introduced new military hardware for quite a long time (aside from the Remington ACR, which they did not design).

BLEH! Sorry Mainsail, I have to agree with Sven. This rifle takes the same approach as the Savage and ends up with the same ungainly results. That stock looks like some kind of chiropractor’s tool, ergonomic sure, but not practical in the field.
The DTA SRS (Desert Tactical Arms – Stealth Recon Scout) is by far the most innovative of the designs in the running for this contest and would be a lot less inclined to take samples of all vegetation in proximity.
That said, it does look to be a better design than the Savage, and it is more modular than the folding AICS chasis rem700 based designs.

As for why the stock folds over the bolt, Steve, I would guess that is to make the left side more comfortable to sling up against your back. I don’t think they were really that worried about people trying to fire these from the hip (or from inside a vehicle) before extending the stock, you know

Carl

The vegetation-grabbing rifle… is it a flaw…or a feature? Snipers need camouflage, after all.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com Steve

Carl, LOL, I can just picture a sniper walking up a hill with half a tree snagged in his rifle for camouflage

Big Daddy

I’ll tell ya, it looked like the shooter when firing the larger round whichever it was did not have a smooth recoil, it looked as though the second shot would have been way off. I’m no expert but that looked kind of amateurish by the shooter until the last shot which was probably a 7.62mm judging by the recoil and sound. It also looks like the last shot was his last and he could not get the action to work.

The bolt action looked slow and it seemed like it hung up a bit. His sighting would have been thrown off a lot for a second shot. It’s not a smooth action at all.

That weapon looks like it needs some type of recoil system in it’s stock or a muzzle brake rather than a suppressor or a different designed suppressor.

I will stick to low profile bolt-action rifles. Seriously that rifle looks overly clunky and has to high a profile for a real role. What is with these people now a days wanting to mall ninja every damn thing as if it improves the rifle. I can lay more flat and quite with my model 70 pre-64 then that person could ever hope to in such a set up. That thing comes off as a range toy.

Sven Ortmann

Indeed.
It would be worthy experiment to build a sniper rifle with trigger and grip behind the action and the scope in left or right 45° position for minimum height.
That’s especially useful for semi-auto rifles because folding iron sights could be installed as backup.
A side-mounted scope would also keep away some mirage problems related to hot barrels.

The Finnish snipers of WW2 were experienced hunters and often achieved very much without a scope – some even favoured shooting without a scope at short ranges because it gave a much lower profile.

Sniper rifle magazines should either insert fully into the stock or have a rounded shape. A bold action sniper rifle doesn’t need a large magazine capacity – three cartridges is already enough.

Folding bipods should be turned & folded away from the rifle side that’s close to the ground during crawling (preferably moved to the right).

Adjustable buttstocks are fine, but you really need only two settings; one for each member of the sniper team (sniper & observer change roles frequently due to eye fatigue). It doesn’t need to be that complicated.

XxleoxX

in my opinion the stock is horrendous,and the recoil looks a little rough,the bolt action seems a bit rough,idk what to say >.>

jdun1911

1 MOA @1500 yards is impressive but to get hits you have to be a master of determining distance, elevation, and windage. Shooting past 500 yards is much harder then shooting below it. It’s like night and day to me.

There is a finite limit to conventional bullet design. The Sierra’s MatchKing was introduced in the late 1950’s is the best accurate bullet in the market. It is use by snipers and competitors around the world. It is what I use for long range shooting.

It is harder to keep a tight group above 500 yards then below it. This is mainly cause by the surrounding environment. At 1000+ yards optical limitations are apparent.

seobserver

Seems to be fare from field and KISS principles. But the trend is set, heavier calibers, more of sharpshooter gun than sniper rifle. Still some lapwork to get it silk smooth.
With todays weapens fighting distances sometimes are very long and in build up scenes it might be very close. Where are the 100m emergency sights?
Intresting but not impressed.

Old sniper instructure

Bolter

Quoting Darth Vader: “Most impressive…” If cool looks = effectiveness, this is a winner. Who can tell until extensively tested as far as performance? Congrats to Remington for the extensive effort to market new items.

Valhalla

With all its fancy doodads and stuff, I was hoping for a semi-auto. Not another bolt action, which, while very reliable, and, in the right hands fast, they’ve been done, and this is to REPLACE a bolt action (M40, M24, those type ones)

M24

I agree Sven on the vegitation issue. In my personal opinion, the M24 SWS is far better than this rifle. The M24 is one of the most effective, powerful, and basic rifles made. You could take an M24 out of the case having no knowledge of it and still effectively shoot it. Though this rifle has good attributes (Folding stock, plenty of room to mount accessories, and extremely easy to modify) I wouldn’t get too excited about this rifle. It has a lot of flaws to work out. There is a reasonthe M24 SWS is still the most used military bolt action rifle.

number one for all you armchair snipers, Snipers dont stalk in the real world other then in school, so snaging is not a issue. Being deployed as a sniper in urban, Desert, mountian and triple canopy i think i know what im talking about. As far as the 24 being better? we call it the M24 walking stick cause thats all its good for. we have wanted this long gun for a long time and its about time we have it.

1sfda

great gun tested prototype in afghanistan certainly serves its fuction, drops a rag better than any mag. i am w you 8541 we are hurting for a long gun. if you have not trigered this rem u are going to enjoy it. secret armchair snipers this weapon system is operational, remington won the bid and got the contract. the light at the end of the tunnel is muselflash.

Chicoloco

1sfda – Ha ha! Glad to hear that you guys have what you need! Now put that baby to work! God Bless..

http://oneillops.com c_bass16

for all the negative reviews this has gotten, its hard to deny one thing. It got the US Military Contract…so its gotta work awful well. I know 2 snipers personally…one prefers the M24, the other prefers the M110…both hate the M107. I’d say it has its spot reserved for now.

Fred

M24 used to be my fav. M24 sucks to me after talking to those who have used it. The Marines loved their M40A1s and hated giving them up! Marines also laughed at the Army guys with those “crutch-looking” m24 rifles! BTW a lot of really good Army snipers despite the mediocre M24s.

Zuess-A

i personally love my m24. i really want to try this thing out though before i judge. i HATE the idea semi auto sniper rifles; so it’s nice to see that this thing is a bolt gun. i do see the need for semi when operating in urban area but not in the mountains or desert. i will always be a bolt man myself. i hate the H.S. precision stocks, i fixed that with a McMillan A5 on my personal 24. the stock on this does look to complicated, but hey if it works… then it works. for those on here that are sitting in a chair judging a rifle when you have never done the job as (8541 and 1sfda) say they have; get a new hobby. i seen triple in action and i can tell you first hand, those fuckers are good at what they do.

Long range shooting is and art form… and how i love art.

Eric

While a very well designed piece the Remington MSR has way too many adjustable and moving parts on the stock. And, even with the stock folded. it will be a long piece with a suppressor attatched.

A better approach is a bullpup design along the lines of the Desert Tactical SRS which ALWAYS, in every mode, is a shorter unit with an attatched suppressor.

>Would you rather have a bullpup FIXED stock or a folding stock (with possible wobble under recoil) for the best accuracy?

>In a tactical situation, READY TO FIRE, is it easier to hide with a shorter bullpup suppresssed rifle or a longer conventional layout suppressed rifle?

>Is it easier to carry a bullpup rifle or a folding stock rifle?

> Which is faster and quieter to deploy, a bullpup rifle or a rifle with a folded stock?

> Which has the greatest possibility of failure, a fixed bullpup stock or the mechanism of a folding stock?

Ronin8541

Got to try this one and the Chey-Tac (408) in A-Stan Both were great! Not a fan of the M24 but loved my M40! AI (AWS) was a nice system too. Those of you that think a bullpup is the way to go….. Triggers are crap. The linkage has to be too long and it makes for a really long and rough trigger. This is the real world not XBOX or PS3.

Well..Since alot of our sniping is urban…Ummm Id take it… in 7.62 20 inch barrel ,fold the stock and sling it. Then carry the m4 per sop…. I don’t need to carry a frigging heavyass USMC m40a4 to plop people across the street…. we have this thing called cammie tape to limit the snags on foliage fyi.. Its a cheap fix.
The good news is its stock is made in my town by local machine shop. He is a good machinist and says the tolerances are good.

Ronin8541

Ok guys here’s the scoop from Remington. The MSR is mainly a military only rifle for sales. It will be available to LE but the price tag is so high that most departments will not be able to purchase it. You ready for this…. $10k for the basic rifle only. $25k for the full system. Remington will sell the chassis for the Rem 700 actions but they will be over $1400. Sorry to burst any bubbles out there. I spoke with Dan Curtis with Remington LE division this morning. He agreed that one could buy a Barrett, Chey-Tac or AI for cheaper. AI chassis are $800 compared to the $1400+. Sorry Remington but this sniper will pass on your new toy!

jo

HS stocks are peculliar. You either hate them or love them. Those who hate them love the McMillan stock instead. Those who love HS stocks, well they also love McMillans:)

The Army apparently doesn’t have issues with M24s being unbedded, that’s great, they need to have a rifle that works. But most HS Precision stocks purchased aftermarket by civillians have to be bedded to get them to shoot right. I mean the QC of fitting the alum block to the action is horrid! So many of these stocks end up stressing the actions they are meant to have just drop right in! Great that HSP takes care of the military sniper, but why don’t they care about the civillian shooter! Well they don’t care about American gun owners, just gov’t contracts!

Wilko

well i can tell you all for a fact that this is the best rifle i have ever used in the field i have never had any problems operating it and in in fact those of you who say its no good have no idea how hard it is for us to move around out there yes it may look like it would get grass and vegetation stuck in it but your so very very wrong its designed the way it is for a reason. Remington have out done themselves on this one they gave us the best rifle for long term duty a light weight adaptable rifle that can be modified in under 90 seconds it has never jammed on me and given how badly we treat our firearms sometimes im amazed that its lasted this long. so please unless you have used this gun please dont bad mouth it because im telling you that when you pick up this bad mother you will take back everything bad you said about it. downside unless your planing to put your life on the line and go out and do what we do i dont think you are going to get you hands on this rifle for quite a while.

immortality72

we carry our bolt rifles in drag bags anyway- the m4 is the best for close engagements and this configuration will allow us a more concealable and less bulky stick for trans to hides. Beleive me, you do not want to be carrying any long rifle that screams sniper in a contersniper environment. Carry the m4 when on the move and fold this one out when you get where your’e going. This is something we’ve been asking for.

http://www.grote.com/military Matthew E. Drake

FIrst – I am an unqualified person to make a comment as I have never been a sniper. I was a Gunner’s Mate, shooting .50cal while in the Service. I am also a hunter, but have never takena kill shot at more than 325M.

That said, I only know what I read and am told, but I have been following the Remington MSR and hope to have the opportunity to one day fire this weapon – long range.

I agree it.s design “could be” difficult to traverse in and out of heavily saturated areas with folliage and vegitation, however I am not so sure today’s Mission requires that sort of movement.

Requiring more than 3 Rounds does not seem feesible – as 2 to 3 shots in a Sniper scenario would seem almost dangerous without relocation.

I am eager to see how this thing performs in the real world of LR shooting in a Sniper capacity….

Darryl

A strong bold rifle, and a distant relative to the 700 Remington I suppose. I imagine though 10 times, but I can’t underestimate either.

I look forward to trying out this weapon.

http://simplisticthoughts.com Nick

It’s a pretty nice looking gun. Reminds me of the intervention that I used to use in MW2!

ronin8541

Wow, that last comment just killed me. I thought this blog was for operators and guys who know weapons, not video game addicts and arm chair quarterbacks. The Intervention is made by Chey-Tac not Remington. Both are rifles used by our military overseas. Listen to the operator who have used the MSR already, they know what they are talking about with the system. Love the MSR, just don’t like the price tag with it or it’s parts. As an issued weapons system that Uncle Sam pays for it’s a hell of a rifle.

CJ

i am a videogame addict…but i also like, know and use guns…i never fired the intervention (i like it in MW2 though), the MSR is a good rifle, that’s obvious, altough i rather the R700

Matthew

I’m looking for a sniper rifle as my first gun. Would this be a good choice or should i go for something smaller like the M4 sniper rifle. You seem to know a lot about these guns, and advice would be much appreciated.

Anthoni

I second what the last guy said. Its true video gamers know nothing about guns, what they are shown in those games is close to life but not the real thing. I own a CheyTac and its one of the most powerful weapon i have ever used, but ammo is very pricey. I have shot the MSR and it is a great contender to the CheyTac and is about 8-10 pounds lighter than my CheyTac and if i had it all to do over i would have waited for this gun to come out instead of the CheyTac. Don’t get me wrong, i love my gun but would rather have this one.

Avramovic

Yeah. Sniper rifle, with 100 moving parts. Excellent. Its not bad, don’t get me wrong, but, it would be one of my last choices.

Clint

The MSR is 10,000-30,000 depending on configuration. I found this out by Michael Haugen

preston

this sniper is a joke for the price, its an AR platform with a bolt-action, its the same old crap. i would much rather have my Springfield M1A white feather by my side any day.

http://- Alavaiex

Question is this weapon delivered worldwide is it available in europe and if its possible how much does it cost to buy one msr rifle (I dont want magnum ammuntion just for training)

Ronin8541

Military and LE in Europe only. $12-30k in price. Way over priced for what it is.

SB_KILLJOY

I agree with SB_Pete its long and breathable is what it looks like but at the same time from watching in that video of it firing its not very stable, I mean after you shoot the weapon it moves way to much which will make noise and give you away. The kick back on it needs to be way more flawless and smooth. I think its a great not as much fun as firing the M40 or M50 Cal but none the less its still a very light gun for everything attached to it. I give it a 7Star rating out of 10.