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Affair Match - - Very well said Lusty... and many others of you... Its not a matter of judgementalism for I too fall on the perhaps wierdly mystical side that "everything is perfect, there is ultimately no "making right or wrong". However, thats not to say that we dont all have 'preferences'. It just seems wierd to attract cheating spouse lurkers to a dedicated swingers site. Did we ever find out if Swingular has a similar ad on the Married Affair site attracting affair seekers to what they might believe is an "easy hunting ground" for tail?
PS... it is sooo good to hear so many speaking about how important it is to hold a field of Non-judgement and full acceptance. For the record, my opposition to this banner ad reflects my present desire to align myself with with open, honest swingers. In my past I have both been a cheater and played with cheaters. Its nice to have evolved into a fully honest, open marriage and found you all in a community of so many who embrace just how strong, good and honorable this type of relationship can be. Thanks to you all and hope to meet many more.
Member since Jan 1st!
Dave

Professionals - - FL4FUN,
I'm just stating the socio-political realities of OUR area. It's a bizarre place. My point is that nobody really cares what working class folks do around here. But 90% of folks do seem to care what you do in your spare time if you have some sort of prominence in the community professionally speaking. I don't make the rules. I just have to live by them.
A lot of swingers are looking for people they actually share non-sexual interests with as well. I see nothing wrong with talking about hobbies, taste in recreational activities, etc. in a profile. It just puts more meat on the bones...helps you get a bit better idea of who a couple is.
As club owners, we are keenly aware of the fact that there are a LOT of different types of folks coming at the lifestyle from a LOT of different angles and hoping to find a LOT of different things. And it's all OK so long as nobody is getting hurt.
I just recalled one profile I saw from a couple out of New Port Richey, FL, I believe. They talk quite a bit about the fact that he is a professional fishing charter captain. I found their profile very interesting. It was pretty detailed, well constructed, and enticing. You see, we travel to that area about once/year on vacation and I love to fish. I figured he and I might have some things in common. Another couple talks about the fact that he is a sky-diving instructor and she is an avid sport shooter. My wife wants to jump out of an airplane BADLY and we love sport shooting. So we have set up a meeting with them as well. The more detailed a profile is, the more we appreciate them.

Just between Us - Is there anything that you don't do with a swinging partner that you keep just between you and your partner? - The obvious ones Love and unprotected sex! Then we will do Anal and that is something left just for us! Really dirty dirty talk tends to stay between us too.
:z Other then that we are pretty open to almost everything else with other swingers! We feel that every couple if they think about it has things that they only do with their partner its just some of it you never really notice it until you sit and think really hard about it.

Bars - Eagles Lodge in Roy - Just wondering if there is any swingers that go to the Eagles that would sponsor us in. We would be very appreiciative lol

Discussion brought about by the marajuana topic - - **YAWN**
I'm with Highway on this one...there are plenty of ways to kill oneself.
There are plenty of things the general "law-abiding" public does in their cars and homes that put themselves and others in danger.
Have to wonder which demographic group will be next after having ridded our communities of the dregs of society by outlawing tobacco and alcohol (the insidious pot-heads have already been dealt with after all)?
How about the fat people? They live an unhealthy lifestyle, and certainly provide a burden on society with obesity related issues. Attribute the rise in Type 2 Diabetes, heart disease, increase in cancer (yes cancer...in individuals who have never smoked and have otherwise lived a good "christian" life) to the convenient and unhealthy lifestyles full of decadence and complacency we lead (Hmm...I know there was a reference to the Roman empire somewhere earlier in this thread).
Once the fat peeps are incarcerated...who shall shoulder the burden and blame for many of the ills in our society?
There are always going to be special interest target groups in our society, whether they be pot-heads, crack-heads, fatties, adrenaline junkies, speeders, cell-phoning-while-driving idiots, swingers...well you get the point.
We may forget to look at WHY things are made illegal, maybe that's on purpose...because when you think about it...the reasons for WHY they are do not make sense. It couldn't be merely for personal safety and health reasons...because if that were the case, then certainly excessive food, and cell phones would be made illegal.
I'm with TR on the too much government intrusion scene; We are the so-called "most free" country on the planet...yet we have the most laws and government intrusion and incarcerated percentage of the population.
Period.
Merry Christmas...haha

Taboo, what is your taboo???? - - BICOU4BIF,
not sure what you meant by saying you are a bilingual "N". And when you said, "that's just my opinion", I think you meant that was just your "preference".
Why all the talk of Crackers and N***rs. Is this a thread on bigotry in the world and an inside look at what Swingers think about it? It's really too bad that people still see color. If you don't like someones culture or a certain look, that is understandable. But black, white, brown, have seen beautiful people in all colors. You never hear someone say, Halley Berry is beautiful. They always say, Halley Berry is beautiful for a black woman. Does that mean she is an anomoly, and we should all be shocked the someone of African descent can actually be pretty? Let's all put the color thing aside, let the world mature beyond this foolishness, and just enjoy this site, and find some new friends.
If you want to continue down the "White Power" path, there are many websites I"m sure that would cater to your hatred..
Mr. UtHot.

STD/STI Testing - - [quote=ABCWOMAN]No, Toki, you are the Jackwagon! The way you responded to this thread is an obvious display of your lack of intelligence about this issue. Maybemor and others are just attempting to make this lifestyle a little safer for all involved. Not sure if you read much but there was a situation recently in Kansas City where a man and his wife were HIV Positive and managed to put a number of people at risk of contracting HIV, and these are supposedly "swingers" who know better.
I've been to parties for over 4 years!! Not everyone uses condoms. Maybe you do! But even a condom isn't going to protect you against Herpes!! You always use latex with oral sex Toki.. hmm... probably not.. and guess what, you are putting yourself at risk for Herpes!
Even if you get tested for Herpes you still are at risk. You could have contracted it on the weekend, go in on Monday get tested, the whole gamut of tests, get negatives on everything. Then two to three weeks later you come down with itchy bumps that turn into sores, oh shit, guess what.. yep.. you just were infected and are now positive for Herpes.. Why.. because you don't get it!!!
The reason we need more people to talk about this is people are getting STD's on this site and others like it. I applaud Rob and his willingness to do what some of you may think is not needed. Toki is a prime example of why you don't play with just anyone!
Sure you can't stop everything all the time, and frankly anytime you have sex with multiple partners it's a risk. But let's not be stupid folks, let's be careful. You only have this life to live, why fuck it up for yourself and the one you love because you are stupid?
PS.. I wrote a long post a few months ago about our own experience with the STD issue. I received a number of posts about others who carry HSV2. Interesting thing is some of these people who have HSV2, DO NOT always tell their potential partners they have the disease. Why? PURE IGNORANCE or just they don't give a shit (which is worse).
I want to make sure everyone knows, this is MR ABC who is writing this post.[/quote]
Again, the voice of reason. (((K)))
Do we need to remind people that if they don't want to read about a subject on the forum they do not have to click on it?
But in the meantime, until all potential risks from having sex are wiped out, reminders to get tested, practice safe sex, and having open dialogues are not going anywhere. If it reading about hits a nerve perhaps you seriously need to ask yourself WHY. And then GET THE FUCK OVER YOURSELF.
Kudos to MM for posting this.
xox
Tammy

Swingular's 1st Annual Motorcyle Ride - To benefit a cause of your choice. - [quote=CHECKTHISOUT84101]Some of you know that we are very private about this part of our life and we have a question for those that are planning this very worthy cause/event. Is this event going to be promoted or get attention from the media, police or a bunch of curious on-lookers? We honestly do not mind supporting a worthy cause like this, but showing up for a ride and having the Newspaper or 10pm TV Local News there taking pictures or video of us on our bikes is not something we want to be part of. We have this vision that local news will be starting off the 10pm time slot that day with....."Local Swingers Straddle A Hog To Help Support Breast Cancer". Maybe it's just us, but we would prefer to support this cause quietly and anonymous if this is the case. We are personally very happy to be who we are in private, but we know our family, friends and jobs WILL NOT LIKE WHO WE ARE IN OUR PRIVATE LIVES. Hope someone can answer this question for us. Thank you The Nutterbutter's[/quote]
VERY good point! We would not be real comfortable with this, either...however, we do support a lot of different rides sponsered by a lot of different groups we personally are not part of...so guess we could always pass off any questions in that manner..But, it would be nice if it wasn't really advertised as sposered by a swinger group. You're right, I think the media would jump on it..JUST for that reason!
Would love to hear Administrations view of this?

Certified Single Male Program - What do you think? - [quote=SEAKINGHER]That is why I think single males need to be broken down into two groups. Those that are polite swingers and those that are just fuckers.[/quote]
Not just single males....people in general.

Does anyone even read the botty call list ?? - booty call - I read it every couple days, but alas there are no posts from anyone in the Los Angeles area. I posted there and got zero response, so I wonder if there are any living swingers in Los Angeles. Even when I search who is online I get listings from New Jersey, CT, ME all coming up as 14 to 18 miles from me in Los Angeles but when I write I get told they are across the country from me, so either my profile is messed in the database or the search doesn't work right. But it does seem to identify most active forum posts and most booty calls in the Las Vegas and Utah areas.
Larry