originally posted by: Jenisiz
I believe in god, and the language he speaks is math

And for the record...I make it a point to be very in the know with current events while still remaining fascinated with history. Especially what is
considered antediluvian.

If you were to get that point of the God Head, or the 7th dimension, that The Creator presides, as in reference to this perspective. You would not
find he, as that which you speak of is beyond such thing of duality, multiplicity. There is no up, no down, no in, no out, no hot, no cold, no male,
no female, no good, no evil, and surly no evil Satan. Only the One.

The Light of the Creator, shines on all, be to different degrees, it shines none the less, to all. The further away you are the less it shines. All
will come home.

Do you have proof? You have an opinion I'm sure is shared with others. But just like the answer to all our questions used to be god and religion,
science is actually legit.

Sure I have proof, my God is not some old male with a long beard, I stand before the Creator, something by our humble beings, is truly far beyond
Super Natural.

First off if you doubt, doubt yourself deny your own exists, I don't know what else you want me to say, but you say you believe in a God, good. What
does that mean really, do you aspire to be like The Christ, will you climb up on a Cross. We all have our Cross to bare.

Yes I am working to help save the world, the lost souls, to try a help Christ's fulfillment of peace on Earth for a 1000 years.

I'm not looking for anything personally, as I already have everything, nothing can be given or taken away from me.

You see I have no real desire to even be here, I am here for those other than me, at times, I have almost just vibrated off the planet. No I don't
think I'm special, I think everything is.

I don't think you understand what proof is. It's not opinion based. You've got yourself compartmentalised into a box made of thoughts but not
solid proof. Science does though.

But your point fails since you showed something that didn't happen. So you've brought the same amount of evidence as everyone else, except in your
case you wasted anyone's time who bothered to look at what you brought.

originally posted by: Jenisiz
I've died twice and saw something each time. I however do not believe in spirituality...I believe in science. It doesn't mean I don't believe in
ghosts... there's just a scientific answer we've not yet explained. The sun rising was considered magic not to long ago. I'm sure the soul will
follow the same fate. When answers begin to arise for what we once thought was a miracle, it replaces the bricks of fear and mysticism that we used
to build our house of spirituality. Religion to me was based off a lack of knowledge. I believe in god, and the language he speaks is math

And for the record...I make it a point to be very in the know with current events while still remaining fascinated with history. Especially what is
considered antediluvian.

Post the death certificates from both your deaths. After you've done that, we can read your comments about what happened post-death with more
appreciation.

It was a reference and joke to an episode you must've missed. In addition, you're not given a death certificate when you're brought back. I was
clinically pronounced dead twice...have the hole in my skull to prove it lol.

And if isn't the pot calling the kettle black...Where's your proof? Science has already proved something happens after death. What it is...I nor
they are claiming to know. And until you completely crossover for good...we probably never will.

You said you were dead twice. Clinically dead is not actually dead and you were not brought back from death. Science has proved something happens
after death but not what? You're not making sense on multiple levels. When you make outrageous claims, expect follow-up questions.

I was dead on the operating table and resuscitated. I got to have the whole look down at my body experience, not an opinion of what others have
experienced. It drive me to get degrees is physics and psychology respectively and through knowledge I began to understand. As stated before and
proved time and time again...Science is the answer, not mysticism and magic.

For someone so adamantly defending the subject I figured you'd be in the know about current events

Yea, you don't get it sorry to say, your science means little or nothing to me, how do you even know that it would even work outside of the
parameters of this Universe. So what do you know? Really.

If you look and you find you have a flat tire, you don't need to check the tire pressure, to be certain , the tire is indeed flat.

You limit yourself, you have not a clue to the true depths of Creation.

Physics, in theory what happens if you exceed the speed of light. What is the Cosmic Constant, Einstein theorized.

Science saves and religion/spirituality kills. All things claimed by spirituality/science will eventually be proven by science. If it wasn't for
science, your ancestors wouldn't even be I alive. Religion has been used as a discrimination tactic of science causing mass murder while science has
allowed such murderers to survive. The irony. I don't see you praying for medicine to appear. Paying for power or Internet to make those posts.
Religion and spirituality have no relevant answers. Just ancient conspiracy theorists using whatever means possible to explain a world surrounding
them they're lack of knowledge won't allow.

Your comments of creation and Physics indicate an education not in the science fields. While I have advanced knowledge of physics I do believe in
god. I just choose to accept there are no such things as miracles...

I love the fact that you have to make note that your evidence comes from non-religious sources; Just for the Atheists. This only affirms my
belief in the spiritual;

Matthew 10:22 You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.

Do you really think that spouting scripture to those who don't believe serves any purpose? It doesn't. Do you understand what is meant by testable
evidence? Claims are not testable evidence no matter who makes them.

Your comments of creation and Physics indicate an education not in the science fields. While I have advanced knowledge of physics I do believe in
god. I just choose to accept there are no such things as miracles...

So being that you have an advanced knowledge in physics, how do you rationalize a belief in god without any evidence?
I always ask this to fellow physicists and engineers as it seems that practicality and skepticism are drilled into us, and for good reason. I rarely
run into a person with a formal education in physics, who also believes in gods. Empiracism is central to how we perform.

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