just by watching the games you can see he is more comfortable in Groh's system. Lacks that elite explosion to be a constant threat from the outside but has an all around game.

not sure where you're getting those stats (I'm not a big stats person to begin with) but Virginia has transitioned to a 4-3 defense over these last two seasons and Cam has continued to become a better player as an end showing wonderful use of his hands and does a nice job of working down the line against the run...he's not going to be an elite pass rusher (I am not sure any end in this class will be elite) but he's as complete of a defensive end as you're gonna find in this class

I certainly wouldn't want to play Melvin Ingram at 4-3 DE in the NFL, maybe that's just me. Coples yes, but I'm very lukewarm on him to start. I'm not really sold on any pass rusher in this class, Upshaw might be my favorite out of the lot of them but I'm not positive I love him as a 4-3 DE either.

Much like your #3 WR poll, I do not believe it is so clear cut that Coples and Ingram are the two best defensive ends in the draft. I think we will all find out after the draft that teams are all over the place with the top five ends (coples, ingram, mercilus, perry, upshaw). I personally have Perry ranked as my top pass rusher with Mercilus not too far behind. Coples is very talented and scheme diverse but his attitude is worrisome. As for Ingram, I love his motor and intensity but he is more scheme specific. He lacks the burst, the reach, and the plethora of moves to be dangerous. His short arms are also a cause for concern.

Wouldn't be surprised to see all five go Top-20, but the order is still up for debate.