A bad performance does not take away the achievements of a really very good all-rounder. He has been a match-winner for England for quite a while. In fact, England - Flintoff = 1/2 * England. So, let's just give him the due respect.

On the other hand, it's not a bad idea to humiliate any English player when you get a chance, though!

well one innings doesnt prove anything... he player well in the first test and took some wickets and scored runs also... unless he continues to fail in both forms for couple of innings we can't say anything... but in my mind I have no doubt... he is the best allrounder I have seen so far.......