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Oh wow! His design in the manga is ALOT superb than the oldman dracula wannabe.

So Daddy Starbucks is a tea....That explains alot.

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Johnny Depp?

New kid on the block! I've been enjoying this series a lot and now I'm all caught up with it and nothing to do but wait... and, uh, poke my nose in and say the man in the photo is actually Gary Oldman.

Moka wasn't born to Issa. She had another father. One who came from a family with a very special ability. The Shuuzen who were a part of FT knew of that power and needed it but knew he would never help FT so they had him killed and Issa adopted Akasha and Moka into the family without them knowing the truth of what he did to manipulate them for his own gain.

Unfortunately Akasha wasn't raising Moka to the ideals of the Shuuzen family so they sent Akuha there to deal with the situation. Eventually Akuha kills Akasha and Moka happens to see. The two of them get into a massive fight that no one wanted to happen again.

Moka is then given the rosario which Akasha had modified to seal off her father's side of the blood which had something the Shuuzen family wanted so that they wouldn't be able to get. By sealing that half of her blood, Moka was only left with her mother's half which is why sealed up Moka looks exactly like her mother.

The Shuuzen family found that they were unable to remove the seal by themselves so they simply left Moka to do whatever she wanted which was why she was living in the human world up until going to the youkai academy while using her real father's name since the Shuuzen family saw her as useless then and didn't want her using theirs.

Moka wasn't born to Issa. She had another father. One who came from a family with a very special ability. The Shuuzen who were a part of FT knew of that power and needed it but knew he would never help FT so they had him killed and Issa adopted Akasha and Moka into the family without them knowing the truth of what he did to manipulate them for his own gain.

Unfortunately Akasha wasn't raising Moka to the ideals of the Shuuzen family so they sent Akuha there to deal with the situation. Eventually Akuha kills Akasha and Moka happens to see. The two of them get into a massive fight that no one wanted to happen again.

Moka is then given the rosario which Akasha had modified to seal off her father's side of the blood which had something the Shuuzen family wanted so that they wouldn't be able to get. By sealing that half of her blood, Moka was only left with her mother's half which is why sealed up Moka looks exactly like her mother.

The Shuuzen family found that they were unable to remove the seal by themselves so they simply left Moka to do whatever she wanted which was why she was living in the human world up until going to the youkai academy while using her real father's name since the Shuuzen family saw her as useless then and didn't want her using theirs.

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I like it, although I'd rather think that Issa married the widowed Akasha (as you said, Moka's and Kokoa's father was killed by Issa and FT). Normally, Moka and Kokoa would keep their father's name Akashiya in this instance. Name changes for their own convenience would be a bit of a hassle I imagine.

Only one thing doesn't make sense to me though. What's Khalua's place in all of this? She appears to have been raised by Akasha as well and she gets into a fight with Akuha later, it seems. I wonder what her family is. She doesn't seem to know Akuha, which leads me to think that she wasn't Issa's child, and there would be no need to send in Akuha if Akasha wasn't raising Moka and Kokoa according to the Shuzen's ideals as they already have one of theirs in her family if Khalua was Issa's child.

I like it, although I'd rather think that Issa married the widowed Akasha (as you said, Moka's and Kokoa's father was killed by Issa and FT). Normally, Moka and Kokoa would keep their father's name Akashiya in this instance. Name changes for their own convenience would be a bit of a hassle I imagine.

Only one thing doesn't make sense to me though. What's Khalua's place in all of this? She appears to have been raised by Akasha as well and she gets into a fight with Akuha later, it seems. I wonder what her family is. She doesn't seem to know Akuha, which leads me to think that she wasn't Issa's child, and there would be no need to send in Akuha if Akasha wasn't raising Moka and Kokoa according to the Shuzen's ideals as they already have one of theirs in her family if Khalua was Issa's child.

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That's basically what i meant. He married Akasha in order to adopt Moka. Akasha herself could've been very powerful which for a proud race would be very important. Guess i didn't make that clear. Kokoa is a Shuuzen though. So I don't think they share the same parents.

If Akasha is a powerful vampire than the Shuuzen children were probably placed under her care in order for her to train them. Akuha was probably already well trained before Akasha came in which was why she wasn't part of the group. And she was kept quiet about by everyone else in the family. The other were younger and not as well trained though. Akuha was probably only sent because they got word that Akasha wasn't teaching them to hate humans.

That's basically what i meant. He married Akasha in order to adopt Moka. Akasha herself could've been very powerful which for a proud race would be very important. Guess i didn't make that clear. Kokoa is a Shuuzen though. So I don't think they share the same parents.

If Akasha is a powerful vampire than the Shuuzen children were probably placed under her care in order for her to train them. Akuha was probably already well trained before Akasha came in which was why she wasn't part of the group. And she was kept quiet about by everyone else in the family. The other were younger and not as well trained though. Akuha was probably only sent because they got word that Akasha wasn't teaching them to hate humans.

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Nvm, I missed the part where Moka says her full name. It all makes sense now. Just wondering why the Shuzen would send someone to train with Akasha when they were easily capable to training those kids themselves. Akuha is proof of that.

Actually, it has been stated that Kokoa and Moka are of different mothers, back when we first met Kokoa (I think... my memory going that far isn't great)

but there's one thing I'm starting to wonder about- with the predicted fights that Tsukune will have to face, and trying to have the youkai and humans peacefully co-exist... while he does has the fact that he started out human and now has the vampire blood, do you think someone'll play the card of "you're more youkai than human now, so why not go against the humans, who will probably reject you anyways"?

Nvm, I missed the part where Moka says her full name. It all makes sense now. Just wondering why the Shuzen would send someone to train with Akasha when they were easily capable to training those kids themselves. Akuha is proof of that.

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Akuha could've been trained by another powerful youkai but when they found out the plans of the Shuuzen family they refused to train the rest of the children.

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Originally Posted by Magin

Actually, it has been stated that Kokoa and Moka are of different mothers, back when we first met Kokoa (I think... my memory going that far isn't great)

but there's one thing I'm starting to wonder about- with the predicted fights that Tsukune will have to face, and trying to have the youkai and humans peacefully co-exist... while he does has the fact that he started out human and now has the vampire blood, do you think someone'll play the card of "you're more youkai than human now, so why not go against the humans, who will probably reject you anyways"?

Actually, it has been stated that Kokoa and Moka are of different mothers, back when we first met Kokoa (I think... my memory going that far isn't great)

but there's one thing I'm starting to wonder about- with the predicted fights that Tsukune will have to face, and trying to have the youkai and humans peacefully co-exist... while he does has the fact that he started out human and now has the vampire blood, do you think someone'll play the card of "you're more youkai than human now, so why not go against the humans, who will probably reject you anyways"?

Well, based on what we know about Tsukune's character , I don't think he would be bothered by that and reject that sort of invitation.

@cyberdemon

Well, you're theory sounds interesting that's for sure, but we still don't have enough information regarding Moka's ancestry tree to be sure of that. I mean it could also be possible that Akasha was single and she herself came from a unique bloodline of vampires, which made Issa interested in her.

I agree that there might be something with Moka having a different surname and you're theory might be one way of explaining that, but there are a lot of other possibilities ... well maybe when we finally learn what actually happened between Moka and Akuha we will have more hints, that will make us finally guess why Moka has a different surname then the rest of her siblings.

Since we already are discussing the matter of Moka's family, how do you think that we will see a battle royal within the Shuzen family - I mean Moka and Tsukune vs Khaula, Issa and Akuha. I know it sounds a bit unrealistic but lately I have been thinking about such a fight occuring in the future and that during the fight the sister ( Moka, Khaula and Akuha ) are going to be defeated ( meaning they will fall unconscious and won't be able to continue participating in the battle), which would leave only Tsukune and Mopka's father on the battlefield. Well the outcome of that kind of fight would be that neither Tsukune or Issa would be able to win, ending the match with a draw, and with both ... Tsukune and Issa passing out at the same time, since they both used too much youkai energy.

I seriously doubt that something like that is going to happen in the manga, since both Tsukune's and Moka's fighting capabilities would have to undergo some major power up, so they could survive through that kind of fight, but the idea was far too amusing for me to not mention about it here ... and well who knows maybe something like that is going to happen in the manga.

I agree that there might be something with Moka having a different surname and you're theory might be one way of explaining that, but there are a lot of other possibilities ... well maybe when we finally learn what actually happened between Moka and Akuha we will have more hints, that will make us finally guess why Moka has a different surname then the rest of her siblings.

It's not just siblings but both of her supposed parents. Mother is Bloodriver and father is Shuuzen. There has to be an Akashiya in there somewhere. I've seen people point that is is meant for Akasha but I've double checked and it is indeed spelt differently in the raws. even if only for a hiragana is smaller between them.