Stuckey is getting to the point where he's just going to move on next season. Either he'll never resign with this crappily run team, or this crappily run team will foolishly just let him go. This kid is being handled really badly right now.

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He was given the starting point guard spot on an NBA team. He was given four guys who can straight-up shoot the ball - Hamilton, Gordon, Prince, and CV. He's been given consistent minutes. Sounds pretty good to me.

I don't have any notion what will happen to the kid next year - I'd like to see him stay here and succeed, but whatever it is, it will never be the case that he wasn't given opportunities that most players never see. Most players would love to be handled so badly.

TMAC, played only in the 2nd quarter where disaster struck. He had played a bunch of minutes the night before - and he came on to start the 2nd quarter probably already tired.

Stuckey. Ok first quarter. But he was brought back in to start the 2nd with little rest - plus he had already played the night before.

Bynum. The guy supposedly out of the rotation. He was brought on early in the 2nd quarter - and made a good start by the Bobcats into total disaster. Not much better in the 2nd half really - but he was out there during our run so the coach probably feels justified in playing this guy who is supposedly out of the rotation.

Rip. Part of the 2nd quarter disaster, part of the 4th quarter comeback. Part of small ball in that 4th quarter, playing as the small forward with Bynum and Gordon in the backcourt. (Wilcox and CV up front.)

Ben Wallace. Used sparingly in this game.

Monroe. On early in the 1st quarter. After Charlotte got off to a hot start in the 2nd quarter - the first thing the coach did was pull Monroe out of the game. Monroe was not the problem. Coach likes to pick on young players.

Daye. Daye was thrown in, cold, in that 2nd quarter. Did not help much at first but by the end of the quarter his energy had stemmed the bleeding. Of course, no Daye in the 2nd half. Rewarding a guy for good play is not in Kuester's idea catalog.

Summers, not dressed. Which is a shame because we needed a bit more defense in that 2nd quarter.

How many played in some kind of logical way. You know, like a planned out rotation. Starters getting rested by subs, then coming back in later. Guys who have seen the floor the past week coming in as subs. Both halves same position for a player.

This leaves out Bynum, who was apparently not in the game plan. It leaves out Monroe, TMAC, JMAX, and Daye, who only played in one half. It leaves out Wilcox, who was not played lately before this game. It double leaves out Daye who has been totally iced prior to this game.

It leaves out Prince - cause he did not get rested in the 2nd half - he got taken out of the game almost entirely in favor of small ball in that 4th quarter.

It leaves out Stuckey for sure, who did not come back into the game in the 4th quarter.

It leaves out Rip, who became the small forward in the 2nd half.

It leaves out Wallace, who only made cameo appearances in each half.

Our two most effective players for the game, Gordon and CV, did start, get rested, and come back and play the same position - in both halves.

Two out of 10 players. Could be we need a coach with a plan.

Planning to cut the rotation down is a bad plan. Keep your players involved, ready to play. This entails planning to play them in games, rather than think of excuses not to play them.

On back to backs - plan to use even more players. Playing tired players don't get it.

WRONG! Darryl Walker was yelling at him to go GET THE BALL, YOU'RE THE POINT GUARD!!!

Yet, you form an opinion on what happened in the game, an opinion that lays all the blame at the feet of everyone except Rodney Stuckey.

His stats are a reflection on how badly he played last night. He stunk up the joint, to be fair so did Gordon, Wallace and Maxiel.

I want the young guys to play and get experience too, but they haven't done the things necessary to beat a vet out for playing time, and that troubles me, AUstin Daye couldn't beat out a crippled T-Mac earlier this season???? Our guys are just future role players, they're not stars who are going to lead us into the playoffs one day.

No he isn't. The only way he is being handled badly is because he's our starting PG when he should be coming off the bench. He's a combo guard who will ALWAYS put up decent numbers on bad teams. TRADE HIM NOW! because I sure as heck wouldn't offer him the $45-$50 million contract extension his agent is going to be seeking.

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I honestly thought Daye was outplaying most of our starters early in the season. right up until he was pulled from the lineup and handed a bunch of dnp cds. This kid was ballin with confidence, mind you his defense wasnt top notch he was getting better. Then the coach seemed to yank the rug out from under him and his confidence now seems shot. So I personally blame the coach and the coach alone for destroyin any rythm the kid had and I hope he can regain some of his confidence. Summers is another one that every time he has gone into the game he has managed to bang in some shots and make me wonder why he doesnt get more burn. I have come to the conclusion that Joe D is deliberately trying to tank and tank huge, why else leave this drooling lobotomy recipient in charge? he has no rhyme or reason to any moves he makes. He is destroying any sense of cohesion this team begins to show, and he has yet to do anything but destroy any and all developement by our youngs.

I agree with Copper on Daye. He was playing well enough early in the season and now he has to take a back seat to guys who aren't part of the future of this team....and that's what we are playing for, the future.

He was given the starting point guard spot on an NBA team. He was given four guys who can straight-up shoot the ball - Hamilton, Gordon, Prince, and CV. He's been given consistent minutes. Sounds pretty good to me.

I don't have any notion what will happen to the kid next year - I'd like to see him stay here and succeed, but whatever it is, it will never be the case that he wasn't given opportunities that most players never see. Most players would love to be handled so badly.

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hmmm, so your idea of straight up shooters is different than mine I guess. while Gordon and CV can get hot they are streaky shooters and have been very cold in spells. Hamilton used to be a straight up shooter, before his love interest was traded to denver. Now he is a shell of his former self. and Tay? mr pump fake? how many times does he get the ball wide open and pump fake to a defender that isnt even close to him? then take his 7 second back up dribble? into a turnaround fade away, or hook shot? good luck gettin an assist with that guy. We had a straight up shooter early on in the season with Daye, he spotted up near the 3 pt line and was hitting the 3 very well. but that just wasnt good for demolishion Dumars and coach clueless.

Stuckey played really bad last night (horribly in every facet of the game), but geez, you'd think he was the worst player on this team if you read this thread. I'm not sure there's another player who's bad performances get magnified more than when Stuckey does.

1. There is no franchise PF/C coming out in this years draft. The best big man is probably Jared Sullinger of Ohio STate and he's about 6'8".

2. The best PG, Kyrie Irving of Duke is still out with an injured toe and may miss the rest of the season, so he might stay at Duke for his sophomore season as a result.

3. We gotta trade Rodney Stuckey, no way I'd extend this guy for the kind of money he's going to be asking for as the team leader in PPG and ast's per game. Send him packing for a pick, or package him with Rip or Gordon and get some Capp Spayce. I 'm not sure that Ben Gordon will ever fit in here and be able to play up to his potential even if we trade Rip, not to mention him being an undersized SG makes finding a back court mate for him difficult.

A little too early to write of Perry Jones, Terrence Jones, and possibly Jonas Valanciunas and Enes Kanter. Even then, that's a massive talent upgrade.

I really don't see how Ben Gordon plays into our future other than being an overpaid 3rd guard.

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Kanter won't be eligible, and the Jones' are tweener forwards, as if we don't already have enough of them that don't play. Jonas V.......... I guess, another thin perimeter oriented PF is just what the doctor ordered around here.

Stuckey played really bad last night (horribly in every facet of the game), but geez, you'd think he was the worst player on this team if you read this thread. I'm not sure there's another player who's bad performances get magnified more than when Stuckey does.

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How much would you pay him next season? Are you ready to commit around 8,9,10 million $$$'s /yr on this guy? Because that's what he's going to be asking for. I wouldn't and that's why I say trade him now, use him to unload Rip and/or Max's contracts, we suck with or without him and he's never going to be the player we need him to be to take this team to the next level.

I think you are calling it as you see it. I also see no player to build around. Sure, JJ will be back and Monroe might pan out two years down the line.

But if a good guard is available in the draft and not a good big, I would go after him and trade whoever to let him come in and start.

Encouraging is that CV can no longer be called a bust. His defense will probably always be a bit suspect, but he can be an asset on a good team.

I don't think Daye has shown he is ready. He is a good shooter but rather slow to let go of the ball--a problem in the NBA. He can not work his man down low despite his height. The jury is still out on him long term as well as short term.

How much would you pay him next season? Are you ready to commit around 8,9,10 million $$$'s /yr on this guy? Because that's what he's going to be asking for. I wouldn't and that's why I say trade him now, use him to unload Rip and/or Max's contracts, we suck with or without him and he's never going to be the player we need him to be to take this team to the next level.

Kanter won't be eligible, and the Jones' are tweener forwards, as if we don't already have enough of them that don't play. Jonas V.......... I guess, another thin perimeter oriented PF is just what the doctor ordered around here.

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I'm pretty sure Enes Kanter is draft eligible, he'll be 19 by the draft. Perry and Terrence are more tweenish, true. Perry is intriguing because of his skillset, but not sure how it'll translate to an NBA position.

Plus I think you may be confused about Jonas. Here's some excerpts from his scouting report:

Essentially an afterthought in Lietuvos Rytas' offense, Valanciunas satisfies his hunger for touches through his work on the offensive glass. The largest portion of his offense (27%) comes from this area according to Synergy Sports Technology, a testament to his length, quickness, timing, hands, activity level and instincts. He pulls down over five offensive rebounds for every 40 minutes he's on the floor, and watching him play, it's not difficult to tell why.

As attractive a skill as his offensive rebounding might be, Valanciunas' most important source of scoring comes from his ability to finish plays created for him by teammates around the basket. He takes special pride in his ability to operate as a pick-and-roll finisher -- “That's my basketball,” he said. This is a skill that should translate to the NBA immediately.

Valanciunas is largely untested on the perimeter at the moment. He's taken one jumper this season—a surprisingly confident looking 3-pointer with the shot clock running out against Zalgiris. It went in.

How much would you pay him next season? Are you ready to commit around 8,9,10 million $$$'s /yr on this guy? Because that's what he's going to be asking for. I wouldn't and that's why I say trade him now, use him to unload Rip and/or Max's contracts, we suck with or without him and he's never going to be the player we need him to be to take this team to the next level.

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I think Stuckey is worth the 8-10 million if Hamilton/Gordon are making more than that, but he probably won't get that with the restructured CBA.

I don't want to go into next year with Will Bynum as our starting point guard. I say find a way to move at least 2 of Hamilton/Gordon/Maxiell and keep Stuckey.

Shoot...you should have hit me up anyway...I was sitting at home with my dad...we could have popped in to see you.

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I had been staying at the Luxor since Saturday night, but was over my moms watching the game on my computer. My intent was to get back over to the Luxor to watch it at the Sports book, but once the disastrous second qtr was over I decided it was worth the traffic drive back over there.....so I continued to watch the comeback on my laptop....

Oh by the way, I checked out this morning and I am back home in Cali....will probably be back down there in the spring and will let you know in advance..

hmmm, so your idea of straight up shooters is different than mine I guess. while Gordon and CV can get hot they are streaky shooters and have been very cold in spells. Hamilton used to be a straight up shooter, before his love interest was traded to denver. Now he is a shell of his former self. and Tay? mr pump fake? how many times does he get the ball wide open and pump fake to a defender that isnt even close to him? then take his 7 second back up dribble? into a turnaround fade away, or hook shot? good luck gettin an assist with that guy. We had a straight up shooter early on in the season with Daye, he spotted up near the 3 pt line and was hitting the 3 very well. but that just wasnt good for demolishion Dumars and coach clueless.

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I disagree with your assessment. I've been watching many games this season and I've seen Rip and Tay hit MANY catch-and-shoot jumpers, even 3 pointers. Most of those assists were either from each other, T-Mac or Gordon.