Re: UPDATE! UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, over Lake Erie continues now for the NINTH DAY in a row, as reported by MSNBC

if that happened,

this would be pinned for sure!

another spiral.hmmm.

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Re: UPDATE! UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, over Lake Erie continues now for the NINTH DAY in a row, as reported by MSNBC

so what does this mean?

are they trying to warn us of something? there have been many, many reports of people seeing ufo's or strange lights in the sky, right before something huge happens, in most cases something disastrous =(

Re: UPDATE! UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, over Lake Erie continues now for the NINTH DAY in a row, as reported by MSNBC

What are my thoughts on this?

My first thought after reading your post is to ask you to name me two times after sightings such as this that something disasterous has happened. I am over 50 years old and I have never heard of anything like you are suggesting happening. Comments like yours is why people do not take what a person like myself has to say seriously when something like this happens.

What I know is, what I *witnessed* is real. What I know is the light that I have seen is not anything like a light I have ever seen before in the night sky and there is no way POSSIBLE that this light is a plane or helicopter. I also feel confident to say that the light is not a star. At least not a star like I have ever seen before. Beyond that, I know nothing. Could it be a satellite or the Spade Station? Do either have blinking lights on them? I don't think so.

What am I hoping to achieve by posting to this thread? I am hoping that someone with experience in this sort of thing will tell me what to do if the sky is clear tonight and I see the same thing. What I WANT is for someone in or around Buffalo to see what I have seen and come forward. I can not be the only one who has seen it.

Re: UPDATE! UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, over Lake Erie continues now for the NINTH DAY in a row, as reported by MSNBC

What are my thoughts on this?

My first thought after reading your post is to ask you to name me two times after sightings such as this that something disasterous has happened. I am over 50 years old and I have never heard of anything like you are suggesting happening. Comments like yours is why people do not take what a person like myself has to say seriously when something like this happens.

What I know is, what I *witnessed* is real. What I know is the light that I have seen is not anything like a light I have ever seen before in the night sky and there is no way POSSIBLE that this light is a plane or helicopter. I also feel confident to say that the light is not a star. At least not a star like I have ever seen before. Beyond that, I know nothing. Could it be a satellite or the Spade Station? Do either have blinking lights on them? I don't think so.

What am I hoping to achieve by posting to this thread? I am hoping that someone with experience in this sort of thing will tell me what to do if the sky is clear tonight and I see the same thing. What I WANT is for someone in or around Buffalo to see what I have seen and come forward. I can not be the only one who has seen it.

Re: UPDATE! UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, over Lake Erie continues now for the NINTH DAY in a row, as reported by MSNBC

OT but I wanted to share anyway. There is a certain area of Costa Rica, really pretty remote but it's referred to a lot as a "mystical" area and is currently inhabited by locals and American expats who go there to open yoga studios and health food cafes. It's on the coast. I spent a lot of time in that country. The legend is that a strange red light would visit some people at night, and appear to just watch them. It seemed to have no source. One woman we talked to said that she had to ask it many times to leave her alone because she was bloody freaked out by it, and finally it did listen to her and left and never came back. Other people who never met have also been visited by this light. I slept outdoors an hour or so away from there for 2 months and never got a visit. It seemed to be in this one particular area. That area is very strange indeed! I can't explain it. Someone even built what is now a long-abandoned house near the ocean that sure looks to me like some sort of alien-worshipping tower. Lots of paranormal activity there and a huge underground society. I feel drawn there a lot. I feel myself being pulled back there.

Re: UPDATE! UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, over Lake Erie continues now for the NINTH DAY in a row, as reported by MSNBC

Realitively nice, clear night in Cleveland, although heavy with chemtrails.

I am willing to potentially piss away an hour or so to sit in the cold to investigate this thing. I am thinking that if their pattern holds, "they" will show soon after sunset, daylight savings notwithstanding.

I will report back afterward, unless I decide to watch a movie or get abducted.

Re: UPDATE! UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, over Lake Erie continues now for the NINTH DAY in a row, as reported by MSNBC

OK. Reporting back. The calm lake looked very beautiful with its ice floats. After a nice sunset, the darkening, moonless sky gave way to night and was clear enough to discern Orion and the Pleiades. Cassiopeia, too. In the cold, I observed primarily toward the horizon until 9PM. I saw moving lights in the sky which were airplanes, flying in straight lines or long curved arcs. I saw a black cat walk toward me, which made me wish I had something to feed it. I saw nothing extraordinary in the skies other than the beauty and marvels of creation.

Re: UPDATE! UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, over Lake Erie continues now for the NINTH DAY in a row, as reported by MSNBC

"Bright light activity over Lake Erie near Euclid, Ohio, continued Tuesday evening as a regular pattern seemed to emerge, according to Ohio Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) Field Investigator Tom Wertman.

Wertman was reached this evening by cell phone at the beach area overlooking Lake Erie near the Euclid apartment building at 9 p.m. where witness Eugene Erlikh, 20, has been reporting continued UFO activity.

But Wertman had two groups set up Tuesday. His group was at Euclid. A second group was to the west at Lakewood and just north of Cleveland Hopkins International Airport southwest of Euclid.

"With each light," Wertman said, "It's the same pattern. You see it as a bright light, first dim, then it gets brighter. It seems to hover in place for a few minutes, then it moves to the southwest, toward Lakewood, and appears to get dimmer."

At 8:45 p.m., another light appeared and went through the same pattern.

The group at Lakewood confirmed that the lights then moved toward Cleveland Hopkins International Airport."

Re: UPDATE! UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, over Lake Erie continues now for the NINTH DAY in a row, as reported by MSNBC

Well, at least you dopes are doing a great b of monitoring lights. Camp out at my house tonight, I have pleanty of lights around and on my property too.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 893013

The world is going to a transition to a higher planethere are some people that could feel it and embrace itand there are people that can't get to that place becauseof there narrow minded, 1 dimensional thinking. Just because you cant feel or see somethingdoes not mean it does not exist.

Re: UPDATE! UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, over Lake Erie continues now for the NINTH DAY in a row, as reported by MSNBC

Well, this "dope" saw the same unidentified object in the sky last night. It did what it has done for the two previous nights.

This morning I called Buffalo State University and talked to the head of the Astronomy Department. Explained to the professor what I have seen and where I have seen it. He could not give me an easy answer as to what this is/was so he is going to try and find it in the sky tonight if it is still visible and the sky is clear. Lucky for me, he lives within two blocks of my home so being assured that he will see the same thing I have seen should be fairly easy.

I will let you all know what happens.

Anonymous Coward, fitting nickname since you anonymously like to try to humiliate people on a message board. It is a cowardly thing to do. I admit, I feel a bit dopey for interacting with people like yourself, but I am here for a reason, what is your excuse, just to try and be rude to other people? Make you feel more significant?

Oh, and by the way, I am still waiting for you to name me twice that sightings such as the ones mentioned in this thread have precluded some disasterous occurrence. That was your claim wasn't it?

Re: UPDATE! UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, over Lake Erie continues now for the NINTH DAY in a row, as reported by MSNBC

Everyone jumps to the conclusion that these are extraterrestrial craft. These could very easily be natural earth phenomenon. The earth core is molten and much goes on that we have no clue of. Same thing with the atmosphere, we know very little actually. For one to know that the earth can give rise to very complex creatures (even semi intelligent ones like ourselves) and then think lights in the skies MUST be aliens is absurd. Same thing with crop circles. Those patterns are very ornate and complex, but compared to a squirrel or rabbit, they are nothing. Don't get me wrong, I think their is life through out the universe, but lights don't equal aliens IMO.

Re: UPDATE! UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, over Lake Erie continues now for the NINTH DAY in a row, as reported by MSNBC

Everyone jumps to the conclusion that these are extraterrestrial craft. These could very easily be natural earth phenomenon. The earth core is molten and much goes on that we have no clue of. Same thing with the atmosphere, we know very little actually. For one to know that the earth can give rise to very complex creatures (even semi intelligent ones like ourselves) and then think lights in the skies MUST be aliens is absurd. Same thing with crop circles. Those patterns are very ornate and complex, but compared to a squirrel or rabbit, they are nothing. Don't get me wrong, I think their is life through out the universe, but lights don't equal aliens IMO.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 793891

whatever it is, it sure is interesting to find out more about it. Maybe people are naturally drawn to the unknown because it gives them something new?

Re: UPDATE! UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, over Lake Erie continues now for the NINTH DAY in a row, as reported by MSNBC

Well, at least you dopes are doing a great b of monitoring lights. Camp out at my house tonight, I have pleanty of lights around and on my property too.

The world is going to a transition to a higher planethere are some people that could feel it and embrace itand there are people that can't get to that place becauseof there narrow minded, 1 dimensional thinking. Just because you cant feel or see somethingdoes not mean it does not exist.

Quoting: zigoapex 914028

Way to make yourself sound so much more important than you are. I mean, to patronize others, that don't think like you (sort of what I'm doing) is quite funny.

Re: UPDATE! UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, over Lake Erie continues now for the NINTH DAY in a row, as reported by MSNBC

Well, this "dope" saw the same unidentified object in the sky last night. It did what it has done for the two previous nights.

This morning I called Buffalo State University and talked to the head of the Astronomy Department. Explained to the professor what I have seen and where I have seen it. He could not give me an easy answer as to what this is/was so he is going to try and find it in the sky tonight if it is still visible and the sky is clear. Lucky for me, he lives within two blocks of my home so being assured that he will see the same thing I have seen should be fairly easy.

I will let you all know what happens.

Anonymous Coward, fitting nickname since you anonymously like to try to humiliate people on a message board. It is a cowardly thing to do. I admit, I feel a bit dopey for interacting with people like yourself, but I am here for a reason, what is your excuse, just to try and be rude to other people? Make you feel more significant?

Oh, and by the way, I am still waiting for you to name me twice that sightings such as the ones mentioned in this thread have precluded some disasterous occurrence. That was your claim wasn't it?

Quoting: TLE 916917

TLE...I'm in buffalo...this is very interesting. I was working last night so I did not see anything but was wondering where exactly you saw this? I think I will go out tonight and see if I see anything. I am not far at all from Lake Erie.

Re: UPDATE! UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, over Lake Erie continues now for the NINTH DAY in a row, as reported by MSNBC

There is also a lengthy first hand account on another UFO site from someone who was on the beach in Euclid last night with a tripod. They all saw and taped the lights that have been reported and everyone there including the MUFON people agreed that they were just airplanes banking over the lake before landing at Cleveland's Hopkins Airport. As the planes approach the shore they can look like they're stationary for a while.

By the way, this was the same conclusion many other UFO researchers reached concerning Michael Hill's Lake Erie footage.

Re: UPDATE! UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, over Lake Erie continues now for the NINTH DAY in a row, as reported by MSNBC

There is also a lengthy first hand account on another UFO site from someone who was on the beach in Euclid last night with a tripod. They all saw and taped the lights that have been reported and everyone there including the MUFON people agreed that they were just airplanes banking over the lake before landing at Cleveland's Hopkins Airport. As the planes approach the shore they can look like they're stationary for a while.

By the way, this was the same conclusion many other UFO researchers reached concerning Michael Hill's Lake Erie footage.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 548017

Again, is anyone really surprised? How could someone conclude aliens from lights at night?

Now can we leave Michael Lee Hill alone so he can sit in his own madness? Thank you.

Re: UPDATE! UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, over Lake Erie continues now for the NINTH DAY in a row, as reported by MSNBC

There is also a lengthy first hand account on another UFO site from someone who was on the beach in Euclid last night with a tripod. They all saw and taped the lights that have been reported and everyone there including the MUFON people agreed that they were just airplanes banking over the lake before landing at Cleveland's Hopkins Airport. As the planes approach the shore they can look like they're stationary for a while.

By the way, this was the same conclusion many other UFO researchers reached concerning Michael Hill's Lake Erie footage.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 548017

Considering The news contacted the airport and it was confirmed that these were not planes by the actual Airport, watch the news clip, It's funny because the Airport stated these were not planes and they DID NOT SHOW UP ON RADAR.

Why does some mufon guy (They are clueless by the way) opinion mean more to you than the actual airport?

People who live here know the idea of objects/Orbs traveling from left to right in the Eastlake area makes no sense saying they are coming into Cleveland Hopkins Airport, why is this so hard to understand?...Hopkins airport is about 35-40 miles in the opposite direction?

This fact was brought up by UFO News as well.

Lake Erie UFO: A Closer Examination

What is depicted in the picture above?Is it two jets several miles apart from each other?Or two police cars several yards apart from each other?Or is it what each of us want it to be?

UFO NEWS - On February 6th we posted Michael Lee Hill's UFO video captured on August 18th, 2006 on the shores of Lake Erie. Six days later it has generated a heated debate in the post's comments.

Many skeptics believe the lights pictured above are two distant jets coming at us in a landing pattern - appearing to hover. Other skeptics say these are two police cars driving across a hill at night - on parallel roads with distance forcing the perspective.

We don't think so.

1) Michael Lee Hill tells us he shot this in Eastlake, Ohio. In this topo map of the area you will see no hills near or across the shoreline.

2) If these aircraft are flying towards Eastlake then we can only find two destinations, Lost Nation Municipal Airport and Cuyahoga County Airport. Neither of these airports look the part for what would be obviously BIG planes on approach.

3) If these aircraft were coming in to Cleveland Airport they would be traveling from right to left.

4) In the frame grab above shouldn't there be an appreciable size difference between two aircraft of this size, miles apart — even with the alleged mirage affect?

UFO NEWS believes these two 'things' are flying about 20 feet apart from each other.

If anyone would like to further debunk this sighting I believe we must begin with these new ideas. - UFO NEWS

Are you paid shills? Must be. DO you think this is the end of it? These objects are showing up worldwide right now, How much longer are you going to be claiming they are planes, Lanterns, Flares, Balloons, Etc.?

they are in full trying to cover it up mode. You are getting pathetic.

Re: UPDATE! UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, over Lake Erie continues now for the NINTH DAY in a row, as reported by MSNBC

There is also a lengthy first hand account on another UFO site from someone who was on the beach in Euclid last night with a tripod. They all saw and taped the lights that have been reported and everyone there including the MUFON people agreed that they were just airplanes banking over the lake before landing at Cleveland's Hopkins Airport. As the planes approach the shore they can look like they're stationary for a while.

By the way, this was the same conclusion many other UFO researchers reached concerning Michael Hill's Lake Erie footage.

Again, is anyone really surprised? How could someone conclude aliens from lights at night?

Now can we leave Michael Lee Hill alone so he can sit in his own madness? Thank you.