Not only do the cops over there not carry guns, they drive those POSes? Jeez, I can see it now:

"Stop in the name of the law! STOP LAUGHING AT US! YOU'RE A MEANY!"

British cops don't carry guns, except for when they do.

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Yes, I know there are "firearms squads" or whatever they call them. The regular beat patrolling police, insofar as I know, are unarmed. If they get into anything sticky they also have to call for help.

Not only do the cops over there not carry guns, they drive those POSes? Jeez, I can see it now:

"Stop in the name of the law! STOP LAUGHING AT US! YOU'RE A MEANY!"

British cops don't carry guns, except for when they do.

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Yes, I know there are "firearms squads" or whatever they call them. The regular beat patrolling police, insofar as I know, are unarmed. If they get into anything sticky they also have to call for help.

In Victorian times everyone could be armed with firearms but the police. They were barred under previous laws that stopped the Monarch having their own personal army anymore. I believe that if we implemented that same rules nowadays, it would really reduce the amount of issues people have had with law enforcement nowadays.

limeyfellow:In Victorian times everyone could be armed with firearms but the police. They were barred under previous laws that stopped the Monarch having their own personal army anymore. I believe that if we implemented that same rules nowadays, it would really reduce the amount of issues people have had with law enforcement nowadays.

akula:The regular beat patrolling police, insofar as I know, are unarmed. If they get into anything sticky they also have to call for help.

Correct. The need for routine arming of British police has been a subject of debate for decades. In terms of risk - six British police officers (two of them armed) have been shot dead in the last decade. Nine officers in NYC (presumably all armed) have lost their lives to intentional gunfire over the same period.

Random fact: One of the Beaumont-Adams service revolvers in question was in a case on my office wall until it was removed and sent to the Royal Armory shortly after 9/11.

I have absolutely no idea what use a 150 year old revolver, in an obsolete caliber, with its barrel blocked, would be to a terrorist, particularly when it was deep inside a building guarded by dozens of armed police officers.

Holy carp it is. You have just made want to get an SD1 and convert into the gadget mobile. Also its just Rover. Land rovers was a name for their off road vehicles which later became a separate company.

FarkinNortherner:Random fact: One of the Beaumont-Adams service revolvers in question was in a case on my office wall until it was removed and sent to the Royal Armory shortly after 9/11.

I have absolutely no idea what use a 150 year old revolver, in an obsolete caliber, with its barrel blocked, would be to a terrorist, particularly when it was deep inside a building guarded by dozens of armed police officers.

Well, if there's ever an attempted steampunk coup d'etat, they will want those as a back up to their ray guns. The so-called "obsolete caliber" will make them even more desirable.

/ "Watch the guys with the top hats, I think they're up to something."

Not only do the cops over there not carry guns, they drive those POSes? Jeez, I can see it now:

"Stop in the name of the law! STOP LAUGHING AT US! YOU'RE A MEANY!"

British cops don't carry guns, except for when they do.

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Yes, I know there are "firearms squads" or whatever they call them. The regular beat patrolling police, insofar as I know, are unarmed. If they get into anything sticky they also have to call for help.

If they get into a sticky situation they have batons and CS spray. The rate of gun crime is so low that most police officers will never see the wrong end of one.

Plus it means they don't rely on pointing guns at people to ensure compliance.

Not only do the cops over there not carry guns, they drive those POSes? Jeez, I can see it now:

"Stop in the name of the law! STOP LAUGHING AT US! YOU'RE A MEANY!"

British cops don't carry guns, except for when they do.

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Yes, I know there are "firearms squads" or whatever they call them. The regular beat patrolling police, insofar as I know, are unarmed. If they get into anything sticky they also have to call for help. In Victorian times everyone could be armed with firearms but the police. They were barred under previous laws that stopped the Monarch having their own personal army anymore. I believe that if we implemented that same rules nowadays, it would really reduce the amount of issues people have had with law enforcement nowadays.

The police had access to firearms in Victorian times as well. In a few parts of London the first ever armed patrols by British police were carried out in the Victorian era. British police have had access to guns since Robert Peel founded the metropolitan police force about 10 years before Victoria became Queen. Would love to know where rubbish like this comes from why does any bother to back stuff like that up. I'm not accusing you I'm sure your just repeating something you heard.

FarkinNortherner:akula: The regular beat patrolling police, insofar as I know, are unarmed. If they get into anything sticky they also have to call for help.

Correct. The need for routine arming of British police has been a subject of debate for decades. In terms of risk - six British police officers (two of them armed) have been shot dead in the last decade. Nine officers in NYC (presumably all armed) have lost their lives to intentional gunfire over the same period.

I have heard this yet not once actually seen a debate in the news in parliament or anywere else. In the last survey done 80%-90% of police officers did not want to be armed regularly. They felt it got in the way of policing by created an us and them situation which is bad enough already. I suspect most of the 10%-20% who wanted be armed were specials anyway so fark them.

Nobody ever talks about the Morris.Smells really are the best memory cues. As a child we had a Morris that we kept in the garage.If I leave something that will cause gasoline to evaporate in my garage today, decades later, I can almost feel, see and hear that old car./sentiment

They had them on display outside Scotland Yard at lunchtime today. Scotland Yard is up a side street off Victoria Street (where I work). The cops closed all the access streets nearby and clogged up central London traffic for ages.

Not pictured: dozens of motorcycle cops holding back curious pedestrians, not fighting crime.

Yes, at the time Rover and Land Rover were both brands under British Leyland, which was later dismantled.

You say dismantled, but bits just broke and fell off. A bit like their cars, really. The hand-me-down Austin Allegro that I got on my 17th birthday testified to that.

Yeah, British Leyland was basically the Katamari Damacy of automakers. They built cars, trucks, vans, buses, lorries, forklifts, tractors, limousines, refrigerators, road surfacing equipment, metal casting, and construction equipment. They just kind of globbed onto every single British assembly line factory until it was this giant rolling juggernaut full of pieces that didn't fit very well together constructed by mental midgets blindly fumbling around for whatever comes to hand until it finally collapsed under the weight of the sheer ineptitude. As you say, bit like their cars, really.

Not only do the cops over there not carry guns, they drive those POSes? Jeez, I can see it now:

"Stop in the name of the law! STOP LAUGHING AT US! YOU'RE A MEANY!"

British cops don't carry guns, except for when they do.

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Yes, I know there are "firearms squads" or whatever they call them. The regular beat patrolling police, insofar as I know, are unarmed. If they get into anything sticky they also have to call for help.