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don't get me wrong. My point is that Windows GUI is ok for 99% of users. I didn't talk about Start menu organization. I was talking about colours and stuff like that.

About kde3, I didn't mean it's ugly, I meant it's absolutely not "professional" as Windows.

KDE4 finally looks professional just as Windows and also more than MacOS.

About gnome, there is nothing to say about it.

So to conclude, my point is: KDE folks have understood kde3 problems and are fixing them in an excellent way with KDE4. Gnome instead? Not sure about their future... their plans are almost as silly as a Microsoft plan about security on their new operating system..

About kde3, I didn't mean it's ugly, I meant it's absolutely not "professional" as Windows.

It's much prettier than either XP's teletubby or plain gray look. Vista on the other hand does look nice, I have to agree. But it wastes
a lot of screen real estate for useless transparency.

Originally Posted by bulletxt

About gnome, there is nothing to say about it.

So to conclude, my point is: KDE folks have understood kde3 problems and are fixing them in an excellent way with KDE4. Gnome instead? Not sure about their future... their plans are almost as silly as a Microsoft plan about security on their new operating system..

Which is kind of sad since Gnome has all of RedHat, Canonical and most
of Novell backing them.

[flame-mode]
To all gnome-bashers: at least Gnome works (KDE 4, cough)
[/flame-mode]

I've yet to find a single person who isn't able to use a Gnome DE out of the box, from my 11 year old nephew to my computer-illiterate mother and several windows-convert friends. Besides, they love how easily they can change themes, colors and fonts.

KDE 3 may have been considered classy back in its day, but it's just plain ugly by today's standards. KDE 4.0 was released broken. It's only 4.1 that is starting to look usable for a modern desktop.

I have to use several different DEs at work and university, some by choice, some not: Win2K/XP/Vista, MacOS, KDE 3, Gnome (2.16-2.23), XFCE. Among those, it's always Gnome that sets itself apart. Its single biggest advantage is usability (little clutter, everything is where you expect it to be), but I also prefer it for its aesthetics (clean and proffessional) and homogeinity (no big breaking layout changes between versions, gradual improvements).