It was originally scheduled to be put into effect just after the election, but now it's going to be early 2013. What it amounts to is this: if the MPAA or RIAA notices you violating copyright protection, they notify your ISP. Each time you get a "strike", incrementally worse things happen to you. It might start off with a nasty note from the ISP, then progress to bandwidth throttling, then progress to your access being temporarily suspended, etc., etc.

I don't think "Nazi" is proper term, tho technically, when private and corporate entities have power over government and legislation, it is called fascism. What we have is governments doing their thing, making people go "Moooo", except with internet, there is nowhere to hide.

Yes, there are lot of loonies and conspiracy theorists, but there is enough of good information that cognitive dissonance takes place.

So they have to shut it down and control it. Dominator mentality. All under a pretense of protecting some copyright law.

Corporations, that human primates have created, have now become more powerful than human primates themselves, and the only thing that could make the said monkeys aware of that fact, is internet.

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This is the Hope & Change you wanted. Pay no attention to the erosion of your liberties._________________You're jumping to conclusions, so I can't keep up with you. Go on without me, I'll just slow you down.

The point here isn't so much the politics of it, it's that the ISPs are now going to be harassing you, if you're somebody who downloads pirated software or content. They'll be coming right up on your screen with a "Big Brother is Watching" thing that you have to acknowledge to make it go away, and they'll slow down your connection or cut it off entirely for a while.

Next they'll be charging people with crimes (felonies, even). Then you'll have a criminal record, and depending on where you live, you'll have to submit to finger-printing, having your mugshot taken, and being genetically sampled for the national Big Brother genetic database.

The point here isn't so much the politics of it, it's that the ISPs are now going to be harassing you, if you're somebody who downloads pirated software or content. They'll be coming right up on your screen with a "Big Brother is Watching" thing that you have to acknowledge to make it go away, and they'll slow down your connection or cut it off entirely for a while.

Doesn't help that ISP's that refuse to comply get their public routable IP ranges blackholed.

Next they'll be charging people with crimes (felonies, even). Then you'll have a criminal record

And you won't be able to get a decent job, thereby "needing" an Obamaphone, which has an exemption._________________You're jumping to conclusions, so I can't keep up with you. Go on without me, I'll just slow you down.

Instead of pestering that annoying government assholes like judges or the judical system in general, corporations will deal with you filthy wrong doer all by themselves. No need for government.

This is what you get without government: corporations fucking you over and over and over._________________Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males

Instead of pestering that annoying government assholes like judges or the judical system in general, corporations will deal with you filthy wrong doer all by themselves. No need for government.

This is what you get without government: corporations fucking you over and over and over.

In US, government and corporations are not separated. Government is agent of corporate, so more or less of it makes no difference. What is needed is government that is removed from corporate and the elite, and that has never been the case over there.

It baffles me how evil corporations have come to be marked. Boeing, McDonnell, and the Douglas Corporation are main reasons we have commercial airlines in today's world. Microsoft made it possible for the average citizen to afford a working, personal computer. Ford brought cars to commoners.

If you want to discuss special interests, why don't you look at the kind of influence various labor and environmental groups have.

It baffles me how evil corporations have come to be marked. Boeing, McDonnell, and the Douglas Corporation are main reasons we have commercial airlines in today's world. Microsoft made it possible for the average citizen to afford a working, personal computer. Ford brought cars to commoners.

If you want to discuss special interests, why don't you look at the kind of influence various labor and environmental groups have.

EDIT: Or the NRA, for that matter.

Because there is biological, empathical and if you want spiritual reality to mankind that superceeds trinkets. If that aspect is not observed and respected, we are gone. Capitalism suffers from same disease that communism did, it treats human beings as objects, which is not reality of things, and is therefore doom to fail.

NEWSFLASH: People fundamentally seek to serve their own self interest.

TRUE; therefore, it would be in your own self-interest to remember that serving elite is not the same as being elite. If shit hits the fan, and your corporate overlords call upon your military ass, would you shoot at people on behalf of suits? What makes you think that is in your interest?

It baffles me how evil corporations have come to be marked. Boeing, McDonnell, and the Douglas Corporation are main reasons we have commercial airlines in today's world. Microsoft made it possible for the average citizen to afford a working, personal computer. Ford brought cars to commoners.

If you want to discuss special interests, why don't you look at the kind of influence various labor and environmental groups have.

EDIT: Or the NRA, for that matter.

ahahahahahaha

oh god, you are so brain washed. I would like you to look up Junkers for airplanes, Apple, Commodore and Acorn for computers.

Boeing and Douglas aren't the reasons for commercial ailines today. They are THE reasons why the airline industry is so heavily regulated. Because their cost cutting, bad quality killed countless people.
MS made nothing possible. There were plenty of computers who run systems not from MS that were more userfriendly and/or more powerfull even before their crap dominated the market. Without IBM's help, MS would still be a small software house producing basic interpreters.

That leaves us with Ford (without mentioning assembly lines he did not event)._________________Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males

That leaves us with Ford (without mentioning assembly lines he did not event).

At least Ford admitted as much:

Henry Ford wrote:

I invented nothing new. I simply assembled the discoveries of other men behind whom were centuries of work. Had I worked fifty or ten or even five years before, I would have failed. So it is with every new thing. Progress happens when all the factors that make for it are ready and then it is inevitable. To teach that a comparatively few men are responsible for the greatest forward steps of mankind is the worst sort of nonsense.

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juniper wrote:

you experience political reality dilation when travelling at american political speeds. it's in einstein's formulas. it's not their fault.