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Now that it is looking more like the California killings were an act of “terrorism” perpetrated, in this case by Right wing radical extremist Muslms, it saves Puffy and Boob and Ted Crud time by not having to do any digging on whether they were Transgenders. Oh, oops, they were married – one man and one woman, a family with one child.

An amazing 1s person description of a black man detained by the police because he fit the description.http://artandeverythingafter.c.....scription/ “I was not going to let some white woman decide whether or not I was a criminal, especially after I told them that I was not a criminal. ” “I thought about the fact my word counted for nothing, they didn’t believe that I wasn’t a criminal. They had to find out. My word was not enough for them. My ID was not enough for them. My handmade one-of-a-kind knit hat was an object of suspicion. My Ralph Lauren quilted blazer was only a “puffy coat.”” He writes very eloquently of what I interpret as the feeling that he was considered guilty until proven innocent.

The Senators Who Voted Against Background Checks Have Received $27 Million From the NRAhttp://news.yahoo.com/senators......html?nf=1 Until the voters for those senators vote differently, nothing will change. Encourage anyone you know who can vote for them, to vote for someone who will support sensible gun regulation.

Here’s a question you’ll never hear asked: Should American soldiers die for Israel? And what the hell is up with Turkey? NATO member shooting down Russian jets!?! Invading Iraq with ground troops!?! And now violating Greek airspace with weaponized jet fighters!?! This is worth serious discussions and all you hear are crickets.

In the wake of last month’s horrific elementary school massacre in Connecticut, 51% favor stricter gun control laws. There is strong support for background checks of gun owners, but a plurality believes dealing with mental health issues will lead to more effective results. Fifty-nine percent (59%) think Congress and President Obama are likely to create stricter gun control laws.

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The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 65% of American Adults think the purpose of the Second Amendment is to make sure that people are able to protect themselves from tyranny. Only 17% disagree, while another 18% are not sure. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Not surprisingly, 72% of those with a gun in their family regard the Second Amendment as a protection against tyranny. However, even a majority (57%) of those without a gun in their home hold that view.

As all the executive order and front-page editorial hoopla crests, there likely will be many who will want to beat the deadline and acquire the items on their firearm wishlist now, while in their minds it is still possible. And it’s Christmas, so stockings will be stuffed with handguns and Lucky Gunner gift cards will hang from bough branches.

When all of the hoopla dies down and the executive order proves as toothless as it’s likely to be, the end result will be increasing polarization between the political parties, but no real change in citizens’ ability to exercise their Second Amendment rights.

Except by then there will be many more firearms in the hands of citizens than if the liberal posturing wasn’t occurring right now.

Nick Hanauer @NickHanauer The New York Times just published a front-page rebuke of gun violence in America http://read.bi/1IKgBMw via @bi_politics Retweeted by Goldy

Know what else they just published?

This story has been corrected to eliminate the section attributed to Marie A. Parker. A social media account that led AP to a person who used that name and claimed to be a witness later posted that the anecdote was a hoax.

She hoaxed AP, NYT, and was on Anderson Cooper’s show. She blamed the attack on GamerGate.

Oh, almost forgot. Her deception was first reported by that useless rag Breitbart.

What an arrogant fuck at @13. Boob thinks he has reached some higher status in life, and is more important than others because he is doesn’t have to ask if you want fries with that hamburger.

Why don’t you do something useful in life and in your spare time try to teach and inspire one of those kids who asks that question, that you find so low in the life structure, to help them do something more for themselves. I’m sure when a person who has to ask that question, hears some idiot like you say that, they feel real good about themselves and is great motivation. Is it because they aren’t a fetus that you don’t value their life?

Boob go back in your fucking cave. Your wife must be a real winner hanging out with a guy like you….maybe she just likes your money.

ISIS knows how to inspire people – maybe if we weren’t so selfish and self centered we could inspire people too. Seems like they are winning the inspiring of people.

@12 That’s not my point. We can’t have a NATO member going rogue. It endangers the alliance. Unless, that is, it’s not going rogue but acting a role. That’s a possibility. Either way, it’s inflaming passions and that’s a political problem as well. And the point of Turkey being a problem all along, well, there are very few countries in that area that haven’t been. They aren’t just divided by state, they are divided by history and beliefs and ethnicities. And wealth, politics, etc., ad infinitum. But you add to that, people are people and they do tend to be hostile by nature. And the place is teeming with weapons.

@13 No doubt they’re working on one that can read x-rays faster and more accurately than radiologists at a tiny fraction of the cost. Then you’ll beg for a burger-flipping job, too, but unfortunately there won’t be any, and you’ll have to live on your investments like the rest of us unemployed capitalists.

Roger Rabbit Commentary: Wingers rant about what a crook Obama is. If he’s really a crook, he’d load up on gun maker stocks, then hold another press conference to announce again that he’s going to ask Congress for more gun restrictions. The rubes fall for it every time: Guns fly off the shelves, gun stocks fly through the roof, and insiders clean up. Then things settle down again, and the rubes are stock with more guns they paid $1,000 – $1,500 for, that are worth about $250 on the resale market. This helps explain why a few people end up with all the money and the rednecks don’t have a pot to piss in.

@19 Yeah, the $500,000-a-year Medicare doctor is mocking people who work harder than he does but still can’t afford $3 fries with their $5 hamburger. That simple meal is more than an hour’s wages in states run by Republicans, while they pay the FICA taxes making Boob rich.

@21 You left out an important factor that I think contributes to Middle East conflicts: Climate. The sun bakes their brains in that part of the world. Nordics are much mellower (although not above squabbling in their own fashion).

“For several years liberals have wondered why any American would purposely support Republican policies when they are contrary to their own best interests. It cannot possibly be due to their racial animosity toward an African American President, or because they enjoy being an integral part of their own pain and suffering. What also flummoxes many Americans is why in dog’s name Republican politicians make absurd, hateful, and blatantly mendacious statements that their base accepts as gospel truth. One would think that even a half-wit would use a semblance of intelligence to determine the lack of veracity and logic of Republican pronouncements, but that never happens and science explains why.

“If the mountain of lies, hate and fear-mongering at the Fox News Republican presidential debate did not convince any American that Republicans are confident their base is stupid enough to believe any ridiculous statement, there are several scientific, peer-reviewed studies that were compiled by Curtis Fease in his article ‘5 Scientific Studies That Prove Republicans Are Plain Stupid’ that reinforce the belief that Republicans are inherently stupid. It is not to say that liberals are incredibly smarter than conservatives, but it is a fact that Democratic states have higher graduation rates that Republican-controlled states, and that Americans seeking higher education definitely embrace liberal ideologies. But those facts alone do not tell the whole story; that is the purview of scientific research.”

I always wonder if the greed conservatives know the robots are coming and are doing their best to gut social programs to make it that much harder to raise taxes on the remaining wealthy to set something like basic income

@30 Of course they know that’s coming. It’s their capital they are putting at risk to make it happen. And they expect a handsome return on that capital. They expect MAXIMUM return.

Of course robotics are at risk of commoditization just like computing power has become immeasurably cheaper. So the greedheads figure they have at most a decade or two to really cash in before they use robotics to conquer the next frontier:

@34 Puddy is a typical Republican. Their answer to climate change is ad hominem attacks. You’ll never hear them discuss scientific facts, because science isn’t on their side. In fact, Florida’s GOP governor even made it a firing offense for state employees to breathe the words “climate change.” Puddy, like all Republicans, believes if he buries his head in the sand the problem will go away.

95% of Group Health members won’t get to vote on the proposed merger with Kaiser Permanente.

Here’s how Group Health execs gamed it. Only 4.5% of Group Health members are registered to vote. To vote on the merger, you have to register at least 60 days before the special meeting called for the purpose. The special meeting was set for 57 days after the public announcement of the merger. That means it’s too late for 95.5% of Group Health’s members to register and vote on this merger.

Roger senile is way worst that the typical DUMMOCRETIN. He is A-Ok with this hypocrisy

– Someone who takes their personal jet to fly to their five homes – Someone who has a house that wasted electricity big time butt that’s A-OK with these “carbon credits”. Reminds Puddy of bit coins! – Someone who breaks California drought water rules because hey, I am a hollyweird star

All three are blowhards for klimate change.

And there is a certain sadministration who can’t say “radical islam jihadists”.

Soooooooo now that they couldn’t immediately identify Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik as workplace violence as they did with the Ft Hood shooting by Maj Nadal Hasan, Obummer gonna address the nation tonight.

Butt Loretta Lynch gonna threaten to prosecute free speech because hey, if they can get away with it on college campii, might as well try it coming from the feds! Sooooooooooooooo, the only hate speech free to be delivered is Christian hate speech, because we have to hate God and His Son Jesus! That’s the new progressive libtard DUMMOCRETIN way! Loretta Lynch will be looking the other way on issues like this too… http://campusreform.org/?ID=7051

The only hate speech in these threads is being delivered by a batshit insane loon who perverts the teachings of Christ and repeats ad nauseum that Americans are scum and that he’s the disinfectant who is going to kill us all.

“we have to hate God and His Son Jesus!”

The batshit crazy loon is the one who hates God and Jesus. Nowhere in his teachings does Jesus advocate the annihilation of DUMMOCRETIN SCUM, but the insane loon calls for our deaths every fucking day.

“Nowhere in his posts does Puddy advocate the annihilation of DUMMOCRETIN SCUM”

You dumbfuck POS, what in hell do you think you’re saying with that shit? You’re not only calling for the death of Democrats, you put yourself out there as the “disinfectant” who would yourself kill Democratic Party “SCUM”.

@47 I can already see how this ends. School prez tells students to pack heat. Guess what, that makes school responsible for what happens next: Accidents. School is sued, files Chapter 7, and goes out of business.

@55 “The spirit of the Roger senile posts is direct and to the point!”

I’m glad you’re a big fan of direct communication. Me, too. I dislike ambiguity; it leads to misunderstandings that can cause problems. I don’t want the people who suggest rounding up liberals, putting us in concentration camps, and executing us to harbor any illusions about how I would react to any effort to actually carry out these ideas. I wouldn’t want them to interpret my words as passive submission. This is for their own good, so I won’t be compelled to defend myself, because I much prefer to be a passive rabbit, although I can be a rambo rabbit if necessary. You see, Pudnutz, when someone says they want to kill me, I give them the benefit of the doubt and believe they mean it, just to be on the safe side. I don’t see why you or anyone else would have a problem with liberals arming themselves. Conservatives are doing it, so why shouldn’t we do it, too? Deterrence often works where respect and reason don’t. If conservatives treat liberals reasonably and with respect, we’ll all get along and there won’t be any problem.

“Puddybud is a fictional character. The person playing Puddybud doesn’t believe half the bullshit his character spews.”

There used to be a distinction between the man and the character he played. All I see now is a batshit crazy loon whose shallow surface personality has evolved into the character he once played. When was the last time anyone reading these threads saw the man behind the character? The answer is, years ago. But let’s say you’re right, I’m wrong, and this is still only a person’s internet persona. And although I don’t see you as having any proof of it, let’s also say he doesn’t believe half of what he writes here. How on earth does that make his thinly veiled eliminationist hate speech any less dangerous?

Who is more disgusting? Those who spew eliminationist hate speech or those who willingly provide them a platform to do so? I say that even a single instant’s hesitation in answering that question is damning of those who are supposed to be moderating these threads.

@60 Even if this is only an internet persona, the police should investigate him for possible connection to any unresolved missing persons around here anyway, just for the sake of leaving no stones unturned.

The status quo is working. Puddy ramps up and up, investing more and more hateful blood-lust into his fake personae, goes too far, a couple of his posts get deleted as a warning shot, and the pussy boy backs down for a while.

And he has no audience here other than sloppy and any imaginary sock puppets he creates. So I prefer to think of him as effectively contained. Another fine example of HA’s community service.

@55 is a clear example why Puffy is delusional and believes everything spewed on right wing radical media outlets. And stupid for not being able to interpret what someone is saying without direct word by word translation.

“And he has no audience here other than sloppy and any imaginary sock puppets he creates.”

As for the audience, it might help the loon to get his message out if he could “speak American”, but he can’t.

And I imagine most political blog comment thread sockpuppets are created for something other than what the loon did with his – to have conversations with himself about his dick. But that’s just one of the reasons why he is considered to be a batshit insane loon.

“All you have to do, Darryl, is start deleting any of the loon’s comments which include the above eliminationist messaging.”

First, I read but a tiny fraction of the Puddybud droppings, and I don’t have time or interest in decoding his/her baby talk.

Roger Rabbit has been saying for years that liberals must arm against conservatives. In most comments this is clearly intended as defense against the hateful, angry and armed faction of the right wing. But some of RRs comments can be interpreted (perhaps incorrectly) as a violent call to arms without a clear defensive context ( like here). Should comments like these be eliminated as well?

Most of what I see from Puddybud is certainly hateful and childish. But speech expressing hatred toward political ideology or a person because of their political ideology has a long tradition at HA and on other blogs.

I should point out that repeated hate speech outside of political differences, has led to commenters needing their comments reviewed before posting. In one case (remember JCH?), repeated hate speech (antisemitism) lead to a commenter being banned.

Back to Puddybud: Saying (after decoding) “Democrats are scum” is not violent rhetoric. From the sampling of comments from Puddybud that I have seen, I don’t see violent rhetoric, just hateful baby talk. But, feel free to prove me wrong. I don’t see the “disinfectant” stuff as inciting violence. It is just a childish taunt.

The way to view Puddybud is as a big act designed to evoke outrage. Puddybud does not have the restrictions that most of us impose on ourselves in debate. He/she doesn’t have to be truthful or honest, be logical, argue from evidence, grammatical, spell correctly, etc. Therefore everything that he/she says is intentionally “outrageous” in eschewing the basics of legitimate argumentation and discussion.

You can use that knowledge to your advantage in your activities here. The simplest thing to do is ignore her/him. But there are plenty of other approaches.

Finally, if you think a commenter has actually engaged in violent rhetoric let Goldy and me know.

@71 “But some of RRs comments can be interpreted (perhaps incorrectly) as a violent call to arms without a clear defensive context (like here).”

That one was clearly defensive, when the context is understood.

@71 “The simplest thing to do is ignore her/him. ”

That’s what I do 80% of the time. I don’t even look at the vast majority of his posts, because they mostly just repeat the same inanities over and over, so there’s very little to see or deserving of response. I engage Puddy when I feel like it, do it on my terms, and ignore him at my whim. He can’t annoy me. He’s just a buzzing housefly, easily brushed aside. I feel no impetus to reach for a flyswatter; that’s how unimportant he is.

Unlike Puddy, who’s putting on an act, and is utterly inconsequential, some conservative bloggers are truly vicious people with malevolent intent and inchoate violence in their hearts. The most I ever did was talk back to them in their own language so they’d understand where they’ll stand if they ever act on their fantasies.

Why not just ignore them? I considered it back in the 1990s when I acquired my first PC, but I was encountering rightwing vitriol everywhere online, much of which wasn’t being responded to, and I didn’t think it was a good idea to let these people have the stage to themselves. I concluded it was necessary to engage them, to rebut their arguments, and respond firmly when they became threatening. (I was indirectly responsible for another blog banning political comments after death threats were posted against me.)

I don’t detect quite the same level of vituperation from the rightists which existed then and reached a crescendo after 9/11/01 and Bush’s ill-begotten and ill-fated invasion of Iraq. The ill-tempered nastiness is still there, as is the pigheaded closed-mindedness and intolerance, and I wouldn’t say the hate talk has been tamed, but they’ve been somewhat humbled by Bush’s spectacular failures followed by America electing and re-electing a black liberal to the White House. These events kicked some of the arrogance out of them, and made them realize they’re not the masters of the universe they thought they were.

They’re still out there, and still unwilling to fulfill the role of a loyal opposition or view politics as a competition of ideas and policies, but now their vitriol sounds less like screaming and more like the squeaking of mice squished in a spring trap. This doesn’t mean they can be safely ignored, or that we should let them control the microphone. Theirs must not be the only voices being heard. They must understand that their murder talk, their civil war talk, their secession talk, is intolerable and taken seriously. You can’t be polite to people who think and talk like that.

My position is they can have peace with us liberals anytime they’re willing to be peaceful. It’s an offer I’ve made repeatedly on HA; I’ve lost count of how many times I posted that “I’ll stop when you stop,” referring to name-calling and aggressive comments, etc. That offer still stands, and will continue to. I also posted that since they started it, they have to stop first, and then I’ll follow. That’s still my position, and it isn’t going to change. This isn’t my blog, I can be deleted or banned by the blog owner/moderators at any time, and I’ve always agreed to and operated under the TOS of this blog determined by someone else. (If it were my blog, I’d be writing the TOS, but it isn’t and I don’t get to do that.) I have, also repetitively, explained to our trolls how this works:

President Barack Obama will pledge to use “every single aspect of American power” to destroy Islamic State during a rare Oval Office address on Sunday in an effort to reassure Americans his administration is handling the threat of terrorism forcefully.

“Calls to ban commenters for disagreeable rhetoric are weak and childish.”

Not really. In many forums the bullshit spewed by the person playing Puddybud would have been shut down long ago. Same can be said for the bullshit you spew, but at least you can spell reasonably well and construct a coherent sentence for your drivel.

And there is nothing childish about calling for Puddybud to be banned. Her/his objective is to disrupt. It is not childish to call for an environment that fosters a high level of discussion and engagement.

I see your comment as being disingenuous and more in line with “childish.”

“It’s all YLB brings to the table”

This is objectively a lie. YLB has made numerous positive contributions to actual discussions in these comment threads, and began doing so years before you showed up.

Given the high bullshit content of your own contributions, you would be best served by avoiding any discussion (never mind lying) about the value of other commenters.

@72 Yeah, I hope that gutter snipe is still alive and clipping his stock coupons in his Hawaiian beach shack. May a thousand sand fleas infest his crotch. A quick and easy death is too good for him. I prefer that he rots away slowly.

RR, you have been specifically called out by a blog moderator, and my interpretation of @ 71 is that he’d prefer if you wouldn’t make those indefensible comments, and I’d bet most of the rest of us would agree. What Darryl wrote is long past due.

@75 If you read a little on the subject you might have a better understanding of why a real president with actual responsibilities is far more on top of this than any of the whiny and tough-talking GOP candidates are. See, e.g.,

Anyone who knows anything about this issue appreciates how utterly laughable (not to mention obscenely offensive) Ted Cruz’s new campaign ad accusing Obama and Hillary of cowardice is. People also should remember that Cruz did not himself serve in the military. (We didn’t have a draft when he came of age, and weren’t at war then, but we also need a peacetime military and somebody has to serve in it, and he could have chosen to do so, either before, in between, or after Princeton and Harvard Law. That’s what I did, I volunteered for the Army and served a tour of duty in Vietnam between college and law school.)

Wow lib the racist schmuck AKA the Oregon moron has gone viral and mad. Is that the best you can do. Calling Puddy a boy? Must really suck to have a conservative minority pick apart your weak arguments!

Not sure what you are getting at there. My point is that if we were to ban Puddybud for hateful and (semi-) violent rhetoric, we would have to ban Roger Rabbit. But we aren’t banning either for their comments. As far as I know Puddybud and Roger Rabbit will continue with their commentary.

Since you brought it up, I’ll also point out that there is one major difference between Puddybud and Roger Rabbit (besides which “side” each is on): Puddybud pretty much comments as a means to disrupt the conversation on this blog. Disruption seems to be his primary objective. In fact, I would suggest that THIS is a much more convincing reason for folks to use to if they want Goldy to ban Puddybud.

Roger Rabbit could be accused of being disruptive sometimes, perhaps. But Roger Rabbit has a good signal-to-noise ratio. He frequently offers high-level discussion and debate. He is truthful in his statements, careful in how he uses data and observations, and his analyses are logical and well-supported.

Finally, he is explicit and forthcoming that some of his efforts here are simply liberal propaganda.

You could learn a lot of good discussion, analysis, and debate technique from Roger Rabbit.

Wow TPPS is worried about being disinfected! It must be TPPS has a bacteria infection as the cause of that triple pressure between the ears and behind the eyes. Or maybe it’s some STI that has propagated to its nanoscopic pea brain!

Of course it isn’t. Neither is “HA DUMMOCRETIN disinfectant”. Utter them in the same breath and there is added meaning. As he wrote himself, “Puddy is the disinfectant that kills the bacteria…” This is eliminationist rhetoric, no decoder ring required. Sure, he once, and only once, wrote that he is “the disinfectant that kills the bacteria that causes the libtard disease”. But weigh that one instance against the hundreds, if not thousands of times HA readers encounter in these threads “Puddy is the HA DUMMOCRETIN disinfectant” followed by “DUMMOCRETINS are SCUM”.

“Roger Rabbit has been saying for years…”

“Liberals must arm.” Sound advice. There was no call by Roger for violence. Not by a stretch, not even from the link you offered. There is certainly nothing about Roger’s occasional advice that is anything all like an incessant, comment-dominating, repetitive drumbeat throughout every thread about right-wing infectant killing liberal bacteriological scum.

“I don’t have time or interest” “I should point out that repeated hate speech…”

Eliminationist rhetoric is considered hate speech and it’s being repeated dozens of times each in nearly all of this blog’s threads. Whichever political direction such rhetoric may be directed, I believe it should be of interest to you and that it would take very little of your time to put an end to it.

You once met a guy who could “speak American”, as the half-term, half-wit former governor put it. I don’t doubt it. The loon used to be able to do that here, too. But he can’t do it anymore. He didn’t use eliminationist rhetoric before. He does now. Myself, and I’m sure others here, see someone degenerating before our eyes while you’re remembering someone who you conversed with years ago. After eight years of the Kenyan usurper causing his head to explode, I doubt the person you met even exists anymore. The batshit crazy loon he has become spews eliminationist rhetoric in your threads. I believe you should reconsider.

Of course, it takes no effort at all to find a more sober, objective, and thoughtful discussion of the issues involved. Wikipedia has its shortcomings and limitations, but for this purpose, it’s good enough for a lazy rabbit like me (footnotes omitted):

“Criticism from Israel supporters

“Malley was criticized by supporters of Israel after co-authoring an article in the July 8, 2001 edition of The New York Review of Books arguing that the blame for the failure of the 2000 Camp David Summit should be divided among all three leaders who were present at the summit, Arafat, Barak, and Bill Clinton, not just Arafat, as was suggested by some mainstream policy analysts. ‘Later, however, other scholars and former officials voiced similar views to those of Malley’, according to a February 20, 2008 article in The Jewish Daily Forward.

“In 2008, the Arabic-language newspaper Al-Hayat reported that Hamas engaged in talks with presidential candidate Obama for months through aides. The article quotes Ahmad Yousuf, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh’s political advisor as saying: ‘We were in contact with a number of Obama’s aides through the Internet, and later met with some of them in Gaza, but they advised us not to come out with any statements, as they may have a negative effect on his election campaign and be used by Republican candidate John McCain (to attack Obama).’

“Malley and his views have come under attack from other critics, such as Martin Peretz of the magazine The New Republic, who has opined that Malley is ‘anti-Israel’, a ‘rabid hater of Israel. No question about it’, and that several of his articles in the New York Review of Books were ‘deceitful.’ On the conservative webzine The American Thinker, Ed Lasky asserted that Malley ‘represents the next generation of anti-Israel activism.’

“Malley told the Jewish Daily Forward that ‘it tends to cross the line when it becomes as personal and as un-based in facts as some of these have been.’ While he loved and respected his father, he said, their views sometimes differed, and it is ‘an odd guilt by association’ fallacy to criticize him based on his father’s views. Simon Malley was called a sympathizer of the PLO by Daniel Pipes.

“In response to what they called ‘vicious, personal attacks’ on Malley, five Jewish, former U.S. government officials — former National Security Advisor Sandy Berger, Ambassador Martin Indyk, Ambassador Daniel C. Kurtzer, Ambassador Dennis Ross, and former State Department Senior Advisor Aaron David Miller—published a letter (dated February 12, 2008) in the New York Review of Books defending Malley. They wrote that the attacks on Malley were ‘unfair, inappropriate, and wrong’, and objected to what they called an attempt ‘to undermine the credibility of a talented public servant who has worked tirelessly over the years to promote Arab-Israeli peace and US national interests.’ This view is also shared by M.J. Rosenberg, Director of Policy for Israel Policy Forum and a former editor at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, who condemned the attacks on Malley, writing that Malley is ‘pro-Israel’ and the only reason he is being criticized is because he supports Israeli–Palestinian negotiations.”

What we apparently have here is the right going ballistic because Obama appointed one of their favorite hate objects to an advisory position. We already know they don’t like Obama or his foreign policy. Lots of people don’t like theirs, which may have something to do with the fact Obama won (twice) and their candidates lost (twice). The right’s reaction is the usual stuff — Malley’s father was a communist, a friend of Yasser Arafat and anti-Israel, therefore Malley must be too, etc. Well, my father was a Republican (at least late in life; he admitted to me on his deathbed that he voted for George W. Bush), but that doesn’t make me one. Move along folks, nothing to see here except conservative propagandists wringing their paws and shrieking loudly about an Obama appointment they don’t like, and we’ve seen that before many, many times. No shred of intellectual content in this, and certainly none in Puddy’s rant, nor in the spew he linked us to.

I admit to posting a violent comment. I said we should bomb the shit out of ISIS, and also put boots on the ground if necessary to eradicate them, which puts my views on that subject in near-perfect alignment with those of many Republicans. If our trolls want to complain about that, I say let ’em. It will prove they complain just to hear themselves whine, and for no other reason.

I don’t support banning Puddy. It’s tempting, on a number of grounds, but he’s easy to ignore. He clutters up the comment threads, and there’s no doubt in my mind that he’s trying to sabotage this blog, but trolls are in short supply and without him we’d only have Boob to kick around. In any case, Puddy is all bluster and no threat to anyone. Even the real person playing the character of Puddy, whom I once briefly met in person, doesn’t impress me as someone that anyone needs to be afraid of. I wouldn’t want to be in a foxhole with him because I don’t think any real enemy would be afraid of him, either. I didn’t sense any toughness in him. There are times, places, and circumstances where you want certain people to be afraid of you. The trick is (a) having that toughness, and (b) knowing when and how to turn it on and off.

Today is election day in Venezuela and France. In Venezuela, polls indicate the opposition party could win control of the country’s unicameral legislative body. In France, the right could make gains in the wake of the Paris terror attacks.

I forget the reason why, or how it was stated, that got my comments moderated. I thought it was said that what I said was hate speech…I don’t recall directing any violence with the “hate” that I spewed, and I did feel like it was a bit of unfair censorship…..I really felt that Darryl himself felt offended and was biased towards a gay person making the remarks that I made.

I never really felt threatened by Puffy’s comments, but I do now feel that Steve has a point, that Puffy is making statements that would suggest violent acts upon people. I find it funny that his hate (added with the violent aspect) is acceptable but what I said wasn’t.

And I have to admit, there are times where I said things, after the episode of being moderated, that were borderline unacceptable and felt that they would be deleted or be put back on moderation, but maybe Darryl was just lightening up on me?

You have to wonder why the trolls hang out here. As much as I would like to counteract what is said on conservative blogs with my opinions by pointing out their hypocrisy and stupidity, I don’t ever hang out on a conservative blog. So do they also hang out at conservative blogs and bounce back and forth, or is their whole purpose in life just to be hateful people and toss insult and be partisan?

But, not sure I’d even be here if it weren’t for the trolls. I hope all the liberals don’t take that personally, I do like chatting and sharing opinions with you guys, but if it weren’t for the trolls I don’t think I’d post as much….even though I skip over a lot of the bullshit that Puffy posts….I may read the first sentence just to get a touch of what he is posting about, but then I quickly move on, if I don’t find it anything to respond to, which is 90 percent of the time. It would be one thing if you could have a dialogue with them, but doing that with the Puff ball is useless.

@99 “Yep, Without Travis, Righton, and Puddy this would be a left wrong circle jerk with both hands on others!”

Like the late (u)SP was, whose fate illustrates what can happen to partisan blogs that don’t allow discussion. First the readers leave, then the writers leave, and then no more blog.

Righton? Where’s he? Dead? In prison? He hasn’t posted here in years. You and Bickle are the only rightwing scum left. All the others either fled or God’s righteous justice caught up with them or maybe they Raptured which is the same thing.

MSNBC characterized Obama’s speech as a “change”. Ok, maybe it is a change in a reaction to what happen. But isn’t that human nature, to change or to evolve.

I kind of take exception to it being described as change; as if we had more than this one or many multiple similar attacks and he stuck with his position…until after say the 6th time…then that to me would be change.

But this is more appropriate response based on a changed situation.

Even democrats can sometimes be stupid….we need smarter fucking people in the world….and looking at any republican for that isn’t going to happen….they certainly are more stupid.

It’s like saying shit just to make a story, like running into the house of a terrorist to see the coffee pot on the stove. Sure glad the media showed us the terrorists house, sure helped me understand things better.

RR, you’re giving conservative politicians waaay too much credit. Credulous tools like our resident sock puppet trolls may not like The President or his foreign policy, but that’s down to them being obedient Nazis (and probably more than a bit jealous of his track record compared to Jr.). But their professional elites are beyond all that in a manner of speaking. They are all full time demagogues now with absolutely no interest in governance as it relates to the fates of small people like you and me. They are talented low brow entertainers now, smirking and spewing base vulgarities like Benny Hill. “like” and “dislike” never enter into it.

@103 Astute observers will note that Obama slapped down the Republicans pretty hard. He understands ISIS is trying to suck the civilized world into a ground war on their turf, hoping this will incite a global Muslim uprising. That’s why their behavior is intentionally provocative; cutting off heads serves no purpose unless it makes headlines, same with terror attacks. Peace is the worst thing that can happen to these thugs, so they’ll do whatever they can to force us into a fight, but that doesn’t mean we should fight on their terms. Bombing is fun, and shooting is even more fun, but this war likely will be won by attacking their finances and internet access. It’s a new kind of war, and Republican tactical thinking is still stuck in the 19th century — Katy bar the door and load the flintlocks! One of the saddest things in all of human history was watching the Poles send their prancing cavalry against German tanks. What a waste of good soldiers and good horses. That’s why you don’t want Republicans in charge of this. Shallow thinkers who don’t know what’s going on will assume Obama won’t send U.S. combat troops to Syria because he’s skittish. They haven’t a clue. After listening to Obama’s speech tonight, I trust him and feel reassured that he knows what he’s doing. I’ll support boots on the ground whenever he wants to do that, but I’m satisfied at this point with his strategy.

Bombing them is fun, and shooting them is even more fun, but this war will be won by attacking their finances and internet access. It’s a new kind of war, and Republican tactical thinking is still stuck in the 19th century — Katy bar the door, and load the muzzleloaders!

Actually, GOP tactics were very much directed at attacking finances of terrorists. Google ‘New York Times’ ‘SWIFT’ ‘Treasury Secretary’ and refresh your memory of just how desperately the Bush administration tried to prevent NYT from exposing SWIFT actions against terrorism, RR.

Over Bush administration’s strongest objections (they employed higher-ups from both parties), here’s what NYT disclosed to Al Quedathe American public when it published the existence of the program:

The program is separate from the National Security Agency’s efforts to eavesdrop without warrants and collect domestic phone records, operations that have provoked fierce public debate and spurred lawsuits against the government and telecommunications companies.

But all the programs grew out of the Bush administration’s desire to exploit technological tools to prevent another terrorist strike, and all reflect attempts to break down longstanding legal or institutional barriers to the government’s access to private information about Americans and others inside the United States.

Officials described the Swift program as the biggest and most far-reaching of several secret efforts to trace terrorist financing.

So RR, while patting Obama on the back for such tactical warfare, perhaps recognize that it started before Obama took office, it was done secretly, it was effective, it was legal, and the publication that editorialized on the front page this past week about terrorism and how Republicans were standing in the way of a successful fight itself stood in the way of Republicans trying to fight terrorism back when the NYT thought interfering with the Bush administration no matter what it did was a good idea.

@75 “Enjoy that holiday shopping, packed in close with other innocent citizens waiting patiently to check out, HA libbies.”

Is Boob making one his many wrong attempts to be right? Is he looking forward to this so he can be right for once? Kind of sick.

I’m not saying that it couldn’t happen, it is possible, but to warn us as if it is evident, makes him sound like he is betting or has the feeling that it will happen.

You mean he doesn’t have any confidence or faith in Our Countries (or God) intelligence? Is he praying for it or against it?

Not that I think we are immune to anything happening and it all can be prevented, but I like to think our government (Homeland Security) has some smarts. After all GWB created it to keep us safe, at the cost of $500 billion a year (I think that is the cost). Isn’t this how GWB kept us safe for 7 1/4 years (“after 9/11”)? Or did GWB keep us safer after 9/11 with the bible or a magic bubble? Or was keeping us safe a permanent war for eternity?

@99 or maybe you were watching gay porn…but of all the gay porn that I’ve watched, and believe me I’ve watch as much gay porn as straight people watch straight porn, but I’ve never seen a video of a circle jerk where both hands were being occupied on two different penises.

@101 All the others either fled or God’s righteous justice caught up with them or maybe they Raptured which is the same thing.

Or maybe they got bored and have better things to do……as much as you post on this board, it seems that you have nothing better to do…what a shame-after 70+ years on this planet, your life’s work has come down to posting all day long on a rather irrelevant blog.

@116 Yeah, pathetic, isn’t it? That’s what rabbits do with their time after they become capitalists who don’t have to work. We have a retired doctor and a retired computer programmer here, too, who spend their time the same way I spend mine. How about you? You’re posting here, too.

Yes, I am posting here – for the 2nd time today. not for the 20th or 200th time today.

Go ahead, spin all you want – you and I both know what the real deal is. Most “retired” people who made/make a comfortable living off the market choose to spend their time traveling, seeing family, taking up new and challenging hobbies, etc…….you – well you choose to sit in a chair all day staring at a screen, getting into meaningless one-up-manship posts with people you do not even know. I suppose if you set the bar so fucking low in your life that living like that is rewarding, well then so be it.

but please, do not keep me from you telling yourself that you’re #winning!

You are a shining example of what we should all strive to be at 70+ and retired…….NOT.

@118 I devote a significant amount of my time to politics, and have been doing so for over 50 years, because nothing is more important, inasmuch as politics causes more misery in the world than everything else put together.

“traveling”

I traveled to my high school’s 50th reunion. I went back east, on request, to be the keynote speaker at an event honoring a Medal of Honor hero — that’s the sort of invitation no veteran will refuse even if he’s not in the best of health and travel is uncomfortable for him. In about a week I’ll be traveling to eastern Washington to attend a meeting of an advisory board I serve on.

“seeing family”

My parents are dead. My spouse’s parents are dead. I’m the patriarch generation now. I have no grandchildren. I go to my offspring, and my offspring comes to me. I go to family weddings and funerals. I visit friends in the Portland and Ellensburg areas. What more are you asking of me?

“taking up new and challenging hobbies, etc.”

You mean like climbing mountains? I used to do that. Writing for professional publications? I’ve done that. Organized scholarship programs? Check. Served on bar association committees, volunteered for community activities, worked as an elections worker, elections observer, and volunteer voting rights attorney? Yep, done all of that. Writing books? I’m working on one. Own a small business? Yep, I own one.

I’ve accomplished half a dozen things any one of which is more than most people ever do. Every one of them was difficult, challenging, and required large amounts of commitment and effort. Some of them were dangerous. Many of them involved public service. I’ve paid my dues and earned the right to spend my time however I choose. So you can take your sanctimonious preaching and shove it up your ass.

@118 “but please, do not keep me from you telling yourself that you’re #winning!”

I won when I helped my buddies survive in Vietnam. I won every time I helped achieve justice as a lawyer and judge. I won by raising my family, supporting them, providing for them, and keeping my family intact through thick and thin. I won when President Obama was elected in 2008 and I won again when he was reelected in 2012. I won when my business — which I rescued from failure and bankruptcy after the previous owner gave up on it — replaced the job a friend lost in the Great Recession and enabled him to continue supporting his family. I’ve won every time I solved a problem for someone or made someone happy. I don’t keep score, because I don’t do any of this to put points on a board. I do it because what I do matters to other people and makes a difference in many lives.

I formulated my political beliefs and chose my political allegiances carefully. I have no trouble with saying I’m proud to be a Democrat. I couldn’t say that if I was a Republican. There are constructive and useful things conservatives could say if they chose to say them. I would have been honored and challenged to debate someone like William F. Buckley. Tell me where I can find a voice like his in the conservative movement now. Tell me where I can find worthy debate opponents.

This isn’t the first time I’ve posted this on HA: Nothing would please me more than for the name-calling and ad hominem attacks to go away, and be replaced by fact-based reasoned debate of issues that are important to us all. I’ll do that anytime the other side is ready.

This call for censorship has been brewing ever since Obummer’s 2012 Benghazi video failure. The carcaphony of screaming children wanting to shut people up has risen to new heights with TPPS and that triple packed pressure pile of steaming shit between his ears and behind his eyes. The JV is still cleaning Obummer’s clock; not bombing their oil revenue because hey we can’t have that ecological disaster butt we can continue to watch them behead innocent people. Obummer foreign policy is in shambles. ObummerCare costs are rising much faster than expected. The number of people not working is at Jimmy Carter levels. The Obummer economic team has left for academia. Obbumer’s bestus friend is mayor of the midwest quagmire Chicago. Inner city DUMMOCRETIN led police departments are arbitrarily killing blacks at high numbers and Obummer just us department won’t touch it.

No wonder the useless morons here want to ICE Puddy! The PuddyLinks make their hero look really bad! Their two term preznit failure makes them look really bad. Worst President Evah!

Putin has run rings around Obummer. Blocked Obummer actions in the UN. Then when Netanyahu spoke at the UN where was Obummer and Effin Kerry? MIA. HA DUMMOCRETINS go apoplectic over these FACTS. Gotta shut up Puddy. Yes there is a bacterium found in libtard brains…

Then Roger senile has been on a roll lately with abject worthlessness for the last year. If it wasn’t for his “stock prowess” there would be nothing at all delivered. When confronted three weeks ago over his own words in a thread which he FORGOT just a few hours before (senility personified), he then wrote multiple paragraphs in multiple posts covering up for his senility. Can you say CYA mode? And this is what Da Perfessa offers as an erudite poster? Talk to the palm!

Next is the Oregon moron. The Oregon moron isn’t used to having black men talking back to him so ad hominem attacks abound. Wanted to make sure his latest attack had perfect clarification. He did have one thing right. Boy, I love eating pussy!

Maybe that’s why he projects such negativity these past few months. The tongue isn’t getting exercise so the brain is gone off the psycho end! You actually need the shiny new Federal FY 2016 DUMMOCRETIN speak decoder ring! I mean I felt sad for him losing his wife. I even commented on it. I don’t know how I would react if Mrs Puddy died butt we can see how much more vile he’s become. Must be the Cowper’s Glands are not being cleaned out lately. Maybe a visit by the moronic twit or looking up and seeing another teabag is what the Oregon moron needs. Did you notice Oregon moron Puddy went first person personal?

The crazed clueless databaze cretin only gets a nod because of the 281 EPIC FAYLE uses of the crazed databaze against Puddy. That crap easily swatted away!

@122 I don’t want to shut you up, and I’m not in favor of censoring your putrid comments or banning you. I support your God-given right to publicly make an ass of yourself. You may consider the preceding sentence as a full and complete answer to the remaining contents of your post @122.

The poster @123 sure writes like Bickle. Exactly the same affected tone of patronizing superiority. Darryl, can you tell whether the comments from these two posters are coming from the same IP address? If not, maybe Bickle has a doppleganger.

Another tragedy in San Bernardino County. A privately owned L39 jet crashed and burned, killing both occupants, this afternoon. The L39 trainer is one of relatively few military jets civilians can own and fly.

As a result of our lawsuit, the government announced in April 2015 that it would tell U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents whether they are on the list and possibly offer some reasons. However, the government’s new redress process still falls far short of constitutional requirements because it denies our clients meaningful notice, evidence, and a hearing. … …the government still keeps its full reasons secret. It also withholds evidence and exculpatory information from our clients and refuses to give them a live hearing to establish their credibility or cross-examine witnesses. Because of these and other serious problems, the ACLU has challenged the revised process as unconstitutional.

The 44-year-old part-time mail carrier, who had gotten a poor performance review the day before, entered the post office wearing his mailman’s uniform and carrying three handguns in his bag. He killed 14 and wounded six before shooting himself. It was the deadliest in a series of rage-fueled killings by current and former postal employees that gave rise to the phrase “going postal.”

@136 Yeah, we don’t want to deny anyone their due process rights to buy assault weapons, do we? We can kick people off planes and shoot Army deserters without due process, but God forbid we should arbitrarily deny anyone access to rapid-firing rifles with high-capacity magazines originally designed and purposed as weapons of war.

According to a CNN poll, a slight majority (53%) of Americans support sending U.S. ground troops to fight ISIS. A larger majority (68%) feel the U.S. response to ISIS hasn’t been aggressive enough. I didn’t participate in this survey, but I’d put myself in that camp. This is a war, one we didn’t ask for, and we may need to throw the full weight of American military power at them. This is pretty tricky, though. The major powers, including the superpowers, haven’t fared very well in modern guerrilla urban warfare. No doubt that’s what ISIS is counting on. But military capabilities and strategies evolve, and hopefully we’re better at dealing with this kind of military challenge than in the past. You can’t necessarily fight this kind of war like a conventional war, though. And rooting guerrilla fighters out of cities and villages, house by house, is a messy and dangerous business. Tanks, jets, and missiles are of limited utility in that kind of battlefield. Time isn’t on your side, because the public gets weary of endless conflicts and a steady stream of casualties. We need to invent a way to win this kind of war before sending in our military.

I mean I felt sad for him losing his wife. I even commented on it. I don’t know how I would react if Mrs Puddy died butt we can see how much more vile he’s become. If that crap is directed at me, you need to be careful here, boy. That post might be construed as a death threat against my wife.

You can easily clear that up by explaining in this thread exactly what you mean by it and then apologizing for the deliberate confusion.

Goldy, I consider this kind of thing waaay over the line. I’m sure you’d agree. I can’t really imagine HA thriving if commenters are allowed to descend to poorly veiled death threats at a spouse or loved one. Goes well beyond “disruption”.

Fuckwad, whoever the fuck you are, and whatever the fuck drives you to portray yourself this way, you better thank your invisible sky buddy that there’s a few hundred miles of glass fiber for you to hide behind.

Sadly, Lib Sci lost his wife recently. He dropped by about a month ago to explain to the loon that he is not Distant Replay and gave the reason for his dropping out – his wife dying. The loon uses that tragic loss to attack Distant Replay, who he pretends to believe to be Lib Sci. My guess is that Distant Replay is either Worf or Deathfrogg posting under a new screen name. So when the loon goes off about Distant Replay’s wife being dead, that’s some real fucked up shit, but the loon doesn’t care.

“Go ahead asshole, and explain how I should “construe it” when a blood thirsty eliminationist freak offers “regrets” for the death of my wife who is sleeping next to me.”

I suggest cutting Bob a little slack until he gets a handle on WTF the loon is doing with this shit. I doubt that he’d go along with the loon on this one. I do hear you, though. It’s way the fuck out of line for the loon to repeatedly talk about your wife being dead. That is truly fucking disgusting.

How about dead wives, Darryl? Is a line crossed a line yet? If not eliminationist rhetoric and telling a commenter their wife is dead, then do tell us, please, WTF does it take?

@122 I would have liked to have made your list, you Putin Loving Commie/Nazi.

Don’t think and then feel good that I read one of your posts – I got to the pount where you said Putin running circles around Obama…at that point it wasn’t worth reading shot from a delusional traitor.

&133 who gives a shit. No one is suggesting or pleasing for an ammenment to the constitution to illuminate the 2nd amendment. Only GOOPERS call for shit like that and changes like to the electoral vote to change the rules that they say others should be playing fairly to.

@129 and I thought that I tried to do Goldy a favor and And entice the troll in, but apparently just another laughable hypocrite that expects others to play by the rules except he has a separate set of standards and rules for himself.

Looks like postal workers are no different from many, msnt, and many typical members of the great GOP “family”. I hear of more daddies killing their mommies and or babbies, or babies killing their mommies and daddies, and it their brothers.

So postal workers like to include their co workers as part of their family, how is that much different and what is the point if your post (I didn’t read it all)? Is your point that we eliminate the USPS because of that?

What’s funny is TPPS also thought the Oregon moron was Lib the racist one. Does TPPS need to review that post?

He dropped by about a month ago to explain to the loon that he is not Distant Replay and gave the reason for his dropping out – his wife dying. The loon uses that tragic loss to attack Distant Replay, who he pretends to believe to be Lib Sci.

Where is the attack TPPS? Just like you thought Puddy was attacking you with “the HA DUMMOCRETIN disinfectant!”. You even kept it up when you were told by Roger senile and Da Perfessa that you were wrong. That’s the problem of being under so much self-induced pressure. Is that liberals must arm getting to you too?

Worf or Deathfrogg – Deathfrogg is vomit man the sheet metal workers! Already proved that TPPS. Butt then again all that shitstorm you post proves the pressure is getting too much. Worf? Another inconsequential low order DUMMOCRETIN of no value, just like you TPPS!

Goldy, I consider this kind of thing waaay over the line. I’m sure you’d agree. I can’t really imagine HA thriving if commenters are allowed to descend to poorly veiled death threats at a spouse or loved one. Goes well beyond “disruption”.

Once again the Oregon moron forgets what he wrote above. Nothing the Oregon moron posts is waaaaaaaaay over the line. Everyone whom has a brain knows Puddy has posted on this blog multiple times my mother has been dead since 2001 and lived her final years in the south. You can check the crazed databaze Oregon moron!

Everyone knows where Puddy grew up (hint, not too far from Goldy) and went to university so WA state is not where Puddy’s momma ever lived! Yet you still claim Puddy lives in her basement, with the latest post is #100. You are still sick as ever! Puddy strikes that up as being the Oregon moron where you can’t remember anything just like Roger senile.

This is soooooooooooo easy. If Da Perfessa wants to say IP Address of 50.53.131.143 (self published three weeks ago by the Oregon moron) is not Lib the racist scientist then Puddy will no longer refer to him as such. If not then… He was so quick to identify who “max” was. So much for not publishing the email address, just whom they post as if you reside on the conservative side! See how simple that is TPPS?

He said that although the family, originally from Pakistan but living in the US since 1973, were liberal city dwellers, his son became obsessed with Islam as a teenager, even refusing to go to parties because “a good Muslim can only see his wife dance.”

PuddyCommentariat: How come we only learn this from an Italian newspaper? Where is the libtard Heilary super pac media on this? So he was radical when he was a teenager? They were “liberal city dwellers”. Puddy bets they voted DUMMOCRETIN!

PuddyCommentariat: This information was gleaned by a Congressional DUMMOCRETIN! And what has Jeh Johnson, or Obummer done about it. No one gets fired in the Obummer sadministration! Butt Obummer is worried these 72 DHS employess could go postal and purchase a weapon!

Senior White House officials and Republican and Democratic leaders in both chambers are in talks over a deal that could range in size from $500 billion to $800 billion over ten years, but the price tag has set off alarm bills among some Democrats.

Reid tried to negotiate a similar package last year but it was blown up by the White House. This time, he’s taking another shot with just a week or two left in the congressional session — and Obama is more firmly on board, say congressional sources.

PuddyCommentariat:Even Nancy I love giving money away Pelosi has issues with this? Total tax reform under a new president? Indexing the child tax credit? Wow DUMMOCRETINS you had control of congress for four years. Must have been a do nothing group!

Venezuela’s ruling socialist party suffered a huge electoral loss yesterday in a country mired in corruption, inflation, and a collapsing economy. The opposition party won twice as many legislative seats and is closing in on the two-thirds supermajority needed to override the powers of President Madura, the late Hugo Chavez’s successor. Socialist governments also are falling out of popularity in Argentina and Brazil.

Well…in the past 5 years, you’ve left 2,944 comments from your current IP address block.

So Da Perfessa made reference to “max’s” IP Address, not Puddy. Sooooooooooo Puddy asks to look up the Oregon moron’s IP Address to see if it matches the lib the racist schmuck’s address. If so then TPPS head will explode. If not then Puddy will no longer make references the two are the same useless DUMMOCRETIN butt it will certify that there are two more similarly vile DUMMOCRETIN creatures that roam Planet Earth!

Once TPPS attacked Ben Carson and my religion incessantly over multiple weeks with over the top vitriol and he rants about Puddy? When Puddy proved through their own words multiple protestant preachers historically claimed the same the thing about the pope from the Bible did TPPS change its tune? NOPE! The DOPE doubled down. Then when Puddy put forth Moron church history what did Da Perfessa do? Take down the PuddyPosts!

The loon has repeatedly made hurtful remarks about a commenter’s loss of his wife. This was after the man, Lib Sci, came here and expressed to him that he was in mourning over his loss and was no longer posting, only returning to note the mistaken identity. That’s when the loon decided that Lib Sci’s deceased wife and the pain of his loss were fair game. He’s been going there ever since, taunting a grieving man. Even though he has been addressing the wrong person, mistaken identity is no excuse for this behaviour.

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