he blocked me too .. :D cuz i said to him .. any excuse today? :D :D
what a dickhead he thinks that he is NOW or still the best player in the wolrd.. but when peoples watching games where playing niko simple olofm rain guardian (those players have a great rounds every map where they will get 4-5 very impactful kills)
and coldzerass matches? cant remember last 6 months his good play where he had super impatful round where he killed 4-5 guys (not talking about his eco or baited frags) ok .. today was that round.. but navi players runing at him with knifes even tho he was awping.. cuz even they know that he is sucking balls last months in cs :D :D pretty good disrespect to coldzera by navi guys in that round.. thats why he was so mad.. cuz everyone know that he sux now (im sure his fans are pretty much blind .. but on thhe scene are better players now.. even mousesports guys are good now //better than him)

haha you're such a biased hater m8, Coldzera is the highest rated player at the event ATM hltv.org/stats/players?event=3486 "sucking balls for the last mont" while he is the highest rated player at the event LMAO

where he was last event ? and event before ?
but how many impactfull rounds he had ? or kills ... i mean .. he is always last saving gun and getting low impact kills or baiting own teammates ... when cold will get 3+kills in the round ... it is with smg against no armored palyers :D cuz cant kill any shit now ..well when u think that he is still the best player in the wolrd.. u must be blind.. on the scene are many better players with super impactfull games... not like him .. he is 14:3 in the first 7rounds where his team losing 2:5 but he is always last saving gun .. (so he will probably not gonna die.. and its verry posibly he will get exitfraggs... )and after game everyone is like omg .. look at his stats .. so fkcing good ... when other players like olofm niko rain simple ropz krimz... fighting every round .. going first and try make a plays.. :D never seen him going first in retake :D almost everytime when sk going to retake bomb site he is like last person to step into bomsite :D :D :D what a dickhead... cant even aim now.. he was best... noone will take it away from him .. but now.. he is pretty average :) like last few months...

LMAO, cold almost never farms eco kills, the one that usually does it is fer, and you're too dumb to know but rating 2.0 takes into account everyting, eco kills count for less, kills while saving count less for his overall rating, and he is almost always the one top fraggin on his team doesn't matter if they're winning or losing, you talk about players that play like s1mple, but s1mple is the kind of player that farms his stats with agressive plays, now what happens to his agressive plays while he faces a good team? he gets shut down, because his FPL style doesn't work against a team that know how to play, he went 9-17 against SK today, meanwhile coldzera doesn't matter which team he is facing.
also you said that coldzera almost never goin in first, well, guess what? he isn't the fuckin entry fragger so it isn't his job to go first and you saying that he can't aim while he is the highest rated player at the event with the highest K/D makes you look dumb.

Thats good banter honestly, you not only disrespecting the biggest legend by trying to knife him in a won round but you also took showmanship over victory for your entire team and fanbase. T
Remember K0nfig knife in overtime? This is how it feels when that shit goes wrong

Easy.
Shox
GTR
Kennys
Olof
Flusha
And im talking about CSGO in 5 years not 2 years. They have more achievments they have been in top rankings for more years and they have been relevant for 2x time that cold has been.
Edit : I probably left out more players.

Only get right was two times top1 nice try
top1 for one year > top8, top5, top7 for years
nobody remembers who was the second best player in the year in a discussion about who are the football goat, for example
cold and gt both were two times the best player in the world
the difference is that cold had 2 majors mvps, and also 0 rating event below 1.00, the most consistent player of all time
while get right had many bad performances and 0 majors mvps
yeah coldzera only relevant for 2 years and he already had more individual achieviments than all others players
Do you understand now?

Do you understand now? Understand what ? That ur biased ? Open your eyes and see for yourself. Cold is not top 5 yet. If for example you have one player that always get Evps and helps your team win and on the other hand you have a player that always underperforms expect for 1 tournament and wins mvp he is automatically better ? Lol just using your logic. Nobody has yet reached olof's level in 2015 and cold came kind of close but in 2016 he couldn't win more titles and in 2017 he had 0 majors. Also you seem to talk about major title count then with that logic Pronax,Flusha,Jw are 3 best players of all time. You can't make a good argument because even if you use things that give cold an advantage are easily countered.
Do you understand now ?

"Also you seem to talk about major title count then with that logic Pronax,Flusha,Jw are 3 best players of all time"
i'm not talking about major titles
i was talking about major MVPS. Are you blind?
0 logic in your post
numbers make the goats, and not who you like more
and coldzera has the best numbers

For 2 years sure. But people always talk about the best CSGO PLAYER, now cold is probably best now (tarik got major mvp so that's debatable who is better now). So for 2 years cold has been the best fair play. Where is 3 other years ? Somewhere in Brazil ? And major mvp argument is flawed because by that logic Friberg,Adren are top 10 of all time which is not true. Other tournaments matter also and cold simply doesn't come close to Shox, GTR, Kennys Olof ,Flusha. And i don't like any of the players im only biased for maikelele,krimz that's all. So then again if we are only talking about majors then you are missing 90% (yes i know he won a lot of other tournaments but these guys won more either way) of pro scene which is okay if you want to make coldzera look like the best of all time.

"And major mvp argument is flawed because by that logic Friberg,Adren are top 10 of all time which is not true. "
friberg and adren weren't top1 for 2 years like coldzera and GR, the discussion here is about who are the csgo goat
other tournaments?
8 mvps (no one has more)
2 major mvps (no one has more)
all those players you mentioned had many bad performances
worst event of coldzera = 1.03 rating :>
keep trying to argue against numbers, pls
its funny

"friberg and adren weren't top1 for 2 years like coldzera and GR, the discussion here is about who are the csgo goat" your main argument was that cold has major mvp's so just compared him to his level. Another major mvp player, but there are more factors to rank best player.
8 mvps (no one has more) (Before 2016 there was no mvp's except for majors so again you are wrong because if it was the case Gtr,Olof would have had way more).
2 major mvps (no one has more) (Your only valid argument here and it is true he is the only one with 2mvp's guess what flusha has 1mvp and won 3 majors so to me that's better but for mvps sure).
"All those players you mentioned had many bad performances." Sure they had but their achievments and their glory days still outweight coldzera and yes even though cold never had a tournament with below 1.0 rating his lowest was eleague premier with 1.01 and they lost b03 to heroic and got out in groups which is embarassing. Can you show me any b03 that those guys lost in their glory days to a top 11-15 ranked team om LAN.
"keep trying to argue against numbers, pls" There is nothing to argue the only statement that you were true on that he has 2 mvp's yet he still hasn't won most majors and you want to call him the best. All your arguments are easily countered and are not worth anyones time.

stoping reading at
"he is the only one with 2mvp's guess what flusha has 1mvp and won 3 majors so to me that's better"
by your logic TACO is better than Kjaerbye, AdreN and Tarik cuz he won 2 majors with SK/LG
you are just a braindead hater

Retard, i'm using major mvps as tie-breaking criteria because both (cold and GR) were two times top1 player of the world, i'm not saying that coldzera is better than GR ONLY BECAUSE he had major MVPS
I'm using objective criteria here while you are just saying "for me it's better"
YOU ARE DUMB AF

If you think that not using mvp arguments GTR and cold are close i hate to say it to you. But you are trying to brainwash people. Yes i know that you are a brazilian and there is nothing else positive in your country so you have to make positives look even better and you are saying cold is the goat. Hey its okay you are extremely biased but your arguments doesnt prove anything. Mvps are an advantage to cold (lol like it matters) and major win is truly important and this is the true edge not mvps. Everything else GTR is much better. And comparing cold to gtr is laughable a much better comparision would be flusha and cold. Now thats a close one because flusha has been a top player for more years but never was as good as cold but still has more majors and achivements. You can yell thats stats mean everything but with that logic xantares is better. If you add up everything the years played, majors won, tournaments won then cold might be top5 but he is not the goat and anyone who says it has brazilian flag i will just take as a joke.

hltv.org/forums/threads/1558506/all-mvps..
thread made when coldzera didnt have won epicenter and esl mvps
coldzera 8 mvps, 6 mvps of tier1 events
no one has more
snax, olof, GR have also six mvps of tier1 events, but coldzera had two majors mvps

coldzera played still matchmaking when olofmeister get_right shoxie guardian flusher were winning tournaments and being in top 20 every year :D :D coldzera before he was no.1 in hltv ranking.. where he was , in top 500 ? cant remember

None have as many titles/achievements in as many years as cold.
If even saying players are equal to cold, we can use major MVP's as a TIEBREAKER and say cold is better there as well. Cold is also more consistent over a period of time with almost 0 tournaments with <1 rating.

Sure, cold is relevant for 5 years ? No only 2 and as i named 5 players that atleast now are still more achieved and are higher in all time rankings. Cold is the best rn but he is not the goat atleast for now and imo he isnt top 5 yet. But sure value those 2 years over 5 years because longevity doesnt mean anything.

Longevity is important, but cold has proven he is more consistent than any of the other players you listed.
You can't even say 5 years for some of these players who have been downright mediocre at best in the past year.

Kennys sure
Olof definitely
Shox 1st average year
GTR this one is true
Flusha basically was fnatic's best player.
2 out 5 are true. Try again.
And also i can take 2 years of these players careers and they will stand up to cold's numbers nicely so if cold plays like this for 1 or 2 more years then talk because now this argument is easily countered.

WDYM flusha was the best player on his team?
That doesn't mean shit when he had a .97 LAN rating in 2017. That's definitely mediocre.
Shox has shown signs of decline, and isn't getting any better EVEN after he was positioned as a star player.
Olof had a rating 1.03 in 2017, which is definitely mediocre. KennyS is the only exception in this list.
2 years of any player you take will not have the same string of consistent 1 rating events, all the titles cold has, as well as 2x Major MVPs.

"2 years of any player you take will not have the same string of consistent 1 rating events, all the titles cold has, as well as 2x Major MVPs."
So you care about ratings too ok. Then simple>cold. And you can be consistent but simple has much higher impact.
Titles ? Well all of my listed players have more titles and some even more majors. Major mvp's ? Well you can be the best player in the team and you won't win the major so you won't get the mvp but okay since you want to talk about major mvp's then i can so by this logic Adren,Friberg are better than Shox,GTR. Because hey major mvps lol.
Cold is not top 5 yet because this game didn't start in 2015 it started in late 2012. But nt

S1mple has higher impact but he doesn't have the achievements cold has.
ARE YOU RETARDED, I use Major MVP's as a tiebreaker.
Those players you listed have similar titles to cold, but don't have the same impact as cold.
No player has both the same titles AND the impact cold has.

"S1mple has higher impact but he doesn't have the achievements cold has" Sure, but you seem to talk a lot about stats and achievmemts are there because cold has a much better teammates.
"ARE YOU RETARDED, I use Major MVP's as a tiebreaker" What tiebreaker ? Cold isnt top 5 yet. And even then i showed you that mvp argument is flawed because players like adren, friberg have them but GTR doesnt and GTR is a much better player.
"Those players you listed have similar titles to cold, but don't have the same impact as cold". Olof,Kenny,GTR had higher peaks and the only one debatable is Olof. GTR created such a big gap between him and #2 player that it was insane. Kennys was entry fragging with awp and nobody could stop him.
"No player has both the same titles AND the impact cold has." That is laughable. Fallen arguably has more impact than cold. And history ? Lol cold is not the best.

You describe peaks, but show no regard for consistency.
"Lol cold is not the best.".
I really like your analysis.
Cold isn't top5 yet? How is is he not top5 yet. He has a better rating and continued success over a period of time than any other player.
I use MAJOR MVP's as a tiebreaker, which means that just because you have a major mvp, you are not necessarily better than someone who doesn't have one.
I'm talking about stats, and cold's stats are the greatest ever.
"That is laughable. Fallen arguably has more impact than cold."
How is it laughable if he only has "arguably" better impact than cold.
Face it. Cold is the best.

Do you also think cs go had this level of competition in 2013?
No. Cold has proven far more consistent than these players and older legends have literally played terribly the past year except for a handful.

Good point, I don't mind either player's actions. S1mple's knife went horribly wrong but as you said I loved to see it when k0nfig did it for example. That kind of humiliation can actually get you a morale boost in a series like this, too bad it went the exact opposite way

Cold has been relevant since 2016 only , still achived in those couple of years more than some other players in csgo history that have played since 2012 , still dont think he is the bigest legend , and knifeing a player doesnt always equall disrespect

That knife was so dumb I kept thinking about it the whole match and how different it could go if not for that braindead moment from Na'Vi. They deserve it 100% that's what u get for not taking one of the best teams in the world with the respect they deserve.

beggining of match? it was like mid of the match and ending of round what u even talking about, when monkezera knifes then its all fine, but when someone tries to knife him, then ohhh the little monka starts crying and acting like a real ape

yes that's what im saying, but for what? all guns from the game are meant to be used, including knife so for what this ape mode ? its just retardness. s1mple is a big faggit but cold just showed the real ape that he is

what respect? how you want to be treated with respect when you monkas have no respect?! monkezera every time he has the chance he will knife and its all fine etc, now that someone tried to knife him he goes full retard mode, for what?! tell me for what?

i want respect ? i want you go fuck yourself you little pussy
95% of the eutards you never treat with respect first rule from BRs
you are so retard sk is the most hated team go kys
every thing that sk does is 5 threads you motherfucker
the real cancer from hltv

Wake up. Pathetic is to think that on internet or a game is not irl and you can say or do whatever you want. What i say in game or forum is exacly what i do irl, i have nothing to hide or to be shame. " Is Just a game" . Ofc is Just a game for you but for they, is about a job.

What in the fuck has that got to do with trying to knife someone? There's no disrespect in being knifed, so the fact that he gets toxic over S1mple being friendly after he failed it and lost is fucking pathetic. Don't excuse it.

The knife try was 100% disrespectful. The score was 6x1, 7x1 i dont remember and the only objective is to humiliate cold. And i can't see simple being frindly, he was Just trying to look nice after ALL the shit he made. Look Olof's tweet, is way more offensive and he was not even playing.

Disrespectful /=/ stupid. And while it was the stupidest play I've seen in perhaps 2-3 years (it even surpasses Styko not clutching the easiest 1v1 in history vs NiKo and more idiotic nonsense), I disagree with the respect thing.
But all that aside, they deserve to go 2-3 if Heroic can do it, on the back of making 0 IQ plays like that. I'd say that regardless of which player they would try to knife 3v1.
Also, keep this in mind: Olof has gone for similar plays multiple times, by himself... Ofc not the whole team at once, which I'm sure you know.

LMAO
I wonder how these kids act in real life... these saying that what cold said is toxic. You shitty kids for sure don't open your mouth in public, don't start a conversation, don't have courage to do anything right?
I mean, if it was toxic, s1mple would reply on the same manner, we know how he is, he wouldn't let it go away. It was just a comment about how that missed knife brought SK into the game.
This shitty generation of twitch/twitter is pure disgrace. I wish you kids were there when teams would play in front of each other screaming loud.

yes, he is the best, find another player with best clutchs,stats and titles than him, and i'm gonna accept
sk are not the best team ever, but coldzera is the best player ever, you are blind if no accept this

He've been relevant since his first months on the USA, in 2015.
Do you remember the amount of theads asking if he would be on the lower part of the top 20 of that year, even playing only 4 months?!
Then in 2016 and 2017 we know how 'relevant' he was...

The times we live in when someone going for a knife kill triggers the entire community, just let them play how they want, people are acting like Na'vi was going to win that match if they didn't go for the knife hahhah eventually SK would wake up and start dominating them they always make comeback no matter how crazy they are behind in the score, one play doesn't determine the match even if it was a very stupid play that didn't work out.
Think of it this way if it worked and they won that round they would still lose the match anyway it's not like Na'vi are anywhere near any of the top teams level atm.