Ultra-Orthodox Facebook is a big hit with frum gays

byHeshy FriedonSeptember 20, 2011

In an effort to stem the temptation of mingling between the sexes, ultra orthodox Jews have created FaceGlat, the worlds first kosher social networking site where members can only be “friends” with their same gender. Not surprisingly the site has become quite a hit in the Charedi-gay community sparking debates as to whether or not the site should continue despite the fact that despite the separation of the sexes everyone has managed to use the site for sex anyway, because what the hell else is social networking for anyway.

Traditionally frum gays met in less obvious ways, the mikvah was a great place to pick up guys looking for a little NSA hook ups, craigslist, frumster, Jdate and even shul, but until now there was never a really good way to act frum and pick up a fellow gay partner. FaceGlat quickly turned into a frum gay social network, because the only people joining in the first place were gays – who finally had the freedom of not being disturbed by women looking for sex. They could essentially roam the network without the inconvenience of straight people. Many people began putting chassidishe code words in their profiles and suddenly faceglat was being spoken about in mikvahs worldwide.

While the motre modernishe communities laughed at how frum we were, we laughed at how we Charedim had finally figured out a way to give in to our taivos in a free and fullfilling fashion, sex in the mikvah never felt quite right, but now frum gays can meet whenever and faceglat is the first no strings attached sex site that is approved by every single frum web filter.

You may not realize it, but many Chareidi women you see in stores are actually men in drag. The ‘woman’ you see in larger black clothes, heavy makeup and a Sheitel may not be who ‘she’ appears to be. Don’t get me started about the Mikvah “laddies”!

I do. I think it’s interesting, and this isn’t the first time I’ve heard about FaceGlat. Honestly, I understand that a some gay folk end up getting married to each other, and going with artificial insemination, and I applaud them, if that;s what they truly want… but I worry about any person who subverts their natural desires to be loved for who they are, in their entirety, even if it IS for children…

Actually I’m obsessed with any issue within the frum community which makes frum people cringe, sex, drugs, off the derech, gays, shidduchim, child molesting rabbis, mikvah and the growing problem of sweet chopped liver.

Hate to say it, but the word ‘frum gay’ is an absolute oxymoron. You are not gay if you are frum, and you are not frum if you are gay. I am a very accepting person, and let people do what they want, but don’t pretend to keep Jewish law and be gay.

I believe the law is that you can call yourself anything you want as long as you are not attempting to deceive…where this leaves “frum gays” I have no idea.
I have a gay Orthodox friend (classic line, I know) who does his best to keep the other mitzvahs. He doesn’t make a case about being gay, but everyone knows.
A rebbetzin he eats by just thinks he doesn’t do “the act.” As I am not watching him in those situations, I can only guess. I suspect that he does do “the act.”
None of my business. I enjoy his company. I’ll leave it to Hashem to do any judging.
Do I support gay marriage? Civilly yes. Anything that has the gay culture more stable and less likely to be promiscuous is for the common good.
Do I support gay marriage within the Orthodox Jewish community? Absolutely not as it goes against our basic belief system.

That’s so funny. Sounds like Shame is a big element of frumkeit. You forgot guilt!!
What a sad, sad existence to all those still stuck in the frum system. Let go of your shame and guilt and mach a layben!

“Frum” is a label that is used similarly to labels like “goth”. It’s all about the clothes, hanging with others who superficially are your type because they wear the same clothes, and knowing the key songs of the movement. To be frum, you need to wear frum gear, know “revach”, “Ben bag bag”, and uncle moishy, and your main group of friends has to be frum

being a goth used to mean having a certain attitude that resulted in all of the above- but now most of them don’t really have the attitude. Same thing with being frum. Of course, you have a few hardcore goths and a few sincere frummies.

A goth is only goth in context- by comparison to other kids, or at concerts with other goths. A goth is just a regular Joe shmoe when they’re doing homework or eating pizza in their room. Frummies are also frum by way of context- compared to nonjews or more modern Jews, or at gatherings of other frum people. When a frum person is in their room doing homework and eating pizza, they’re just a regular Joe shmoe

gay sex, tax fraud, and all the other things we say make a person not frum? That’s like saying that a goth doing hw and eating isn’t a goth

Shidduchim would be so much easier if I was gay, I just don’t get women…but I do like getting with them…and I enjoy the speculatkion greatly. I guess since I write about charedim a lot, I must be a closeted charedi too.

I was the one to leave that original comment about the oxymorons, and I just want to answer. It is exactly as ‘Seriously??’ said, if something is done in the open like that, it is different than doing something not in the open. And for the record, I am very against people who cheat the goverment! I am one of those ‘losers’ who puts everything on my taxes and pays for it.
The point with gays is that sinning on occasion because you can’t control yourself, and living with a belief system and according to a like that is completely against halacha, I believe it says straight out in the Torah, “To’aivah Hi'”, is a little different.

Once again, it is the “act” that is to’evah. Not being gay. Or even being openly gay. I have never seen or heard of frum gays openly doing the “act”. Many frum gays do not do the “act” at all.
Until they do, with 2 witnesses, you can call them whatever you want. But they can call themselves frum, if they so choose.

Let the gays do whatever they want as long as they are doing it privately. “Frum” is an entirely subjective term, and nobody, frum or not, lives without sin. If a gay Jews believes in the Torah and wants to refrain from doing the “act” then kol ha’kavod to him. If he can’t stop himself, however, he is just sinning along with all of us who don’t go to shul three times a day, don’t bentch during the week, drink chalav stam etc.