blue in green. barneys. beware of 24oz coming next spring cost will be significantly higher as well as it is supposedly same as sammies from what i read i think somewhere.i will be getting indigo weird guys next week as they are suppose to be shipping yesterday or today.i might be getting black slim guys barring my trying them out and money and/or a better deal in the marketplaceorsufu.Those 21oz look good.~Lefty

blue in green. barneys. beware of 24oz coming next spring cost will be significantly higher as well as it is supposedly same as sammies from what i read i think somewhere.i will be getting indigo weird guys next week as they are suppose to be shipping yesterday or today.i might be getting black slim guys barring my trying them out and money and/or a better deal in the marketplaceorsufu.Those 21oz look good.~Lefty

I checked both sites already barneys only had up to a 32. I forgot about the 21 oz BIG version so i'm just coppin those because they're nicer.Where did you hear about those 24 oz? Sounds great

but um yeah 28 would = true waist 30. The tags are 2 sizes lower than the true waist measurement. However, a lot of people just size down 1 isntead of 2. I also sized down only 1 because my fat calves wouldnt be able to squeeze in if i sized down 2.

i was lookin at weird guys and my true waist is about 33. would it be fine if i sized down to a 31?

Size 31 would be fine. Unless u got fat calves, size down 2 would be fine, because the thighs are very roomy after 2 weeks of stretching. When i first got my pair, i sized down 1 and thighs were tight as can be, but now, the thighs are sooo baggy! and i wish they didnt stretch out as much!