I have an awesome and consistent technique for 2nd and 3rd day hair. I get equal parts of leave in conditioner (the lube) and L'Oreal Out of Bed (LOOB), about a dime sized amount of each. I mix them in palms of my hands, put hands under a little water and just smooth over canopy and any areas that are frizzy or misshapen. It seems to work! No frizz, no crunchiness and no thin sticky ends! Hair has clumps, softness and shine. It's the only thing that has worked consistently for me.

I've tried store bought curl sprays--leaves my hair sticky and hard. Spritzes and curl refreshers--initially good but once dry, hair frizzed. I made an "all in one" leave in/gel spray--hair was crunchy with thin clumps.

I don't know if anyone else has tried this or if willing to try it let me know what you think! And btw, I had to come up with a catchy name in case I made it to hall of fame stickies on techniques!! Haha

I sleep on satin pillow case but I need to wear a fleece headband while i sleep (it has nice little flat speakers in it) hooked to my iphone playing crashing waves n storms cause my hubby snores soo loud...i dunno if its the headband or not, but I wake up with flat non wavy hair..its dull and lifeless untili rewet in shower and re apply sum stylers...I know my hair is really damaged so that could be part of the problem I cannot get 2nd day hair....I like ur idea tho!!
I often mix my regular conditioner that i also use as a leave in with gel to touch up ends if going out for the night and my hair feels dry...I have no luck whatsoever with pasty gunky stuff, is the LOOB like that? are you familiar with bedheads COCKY? my hubby uses that, its pretty sticky, I tried it yesterday and had to wash it out pretty soon after!

I often mix my regular conditioner that i also use as a leave in with gel to touch up ends if going out for the night and my hair feels dry...I have no luck whatsoever with pasty gunky stuff, is the LOOB like that? are you familiar with bedheads COCKY? my hubby uses that, its pretty sticky, I tried it yesterday and had to wash it out pretty soon after!

Originally Posted by 0oHollyo0

I'm not familiar with COCKY but sounds like it would work with the lube! Haha The LOOB is a bit sticky and gooey. To be honest, I bought it after reading good reviews for clumps and I like it with my hard holding gel (LALSG) but not alone. I had put it aside and it occurred to me to try mixing it with leave in to create sort of a gel cream. Gel with leave in left hard, crunchy thin ends. This combo of LOOB and "lube" gives me the clumps, smooths the frizz and leaves hair soft and shiny. I have shoulder length hair and I use small amount (less than dime sized) and that hasn't been too sticky or gooey. Try it!!

Today was first time trying the lube/LOOB combo over my other go to combo of KCKT and KCCC for second day hair and it worked! Just have to be careful when mixing the two products in your palms. Any curlies tried this? Is there something less sticky than the LOOB that may work as well?

Today was first time trying the lube/LOOB combo over my other go to combo of KCKT and KCCC for second day hair and it worked! Just have to be careful when mixing the two products in your palms. Any curlies tried this? Is there something less sticky than the LOOB that may work as well?

Originally Posted by Cuban-curl-E

sorry to be so behind but what is lube exactly (lol i know what LOOB is ) and i do like the sound of that combo so i might try it since i have been dying to get LOOB to try out but i never really go to cvs lol

I tried mixing my leave in with LALSG and results not as good. Ends were thin and crunchy. There's something about the lube (leave in) and LOOB combo that just works. Although it is sticky and gooey, it does give nice clumps to dry hair when mixed with the leave in and a bit of water. It doesn't feel sticky when dry either. It's the best method I've found for 2nd and 3rd day hair, so far!!

Hi itsiliii! I'm so glad you read this because it seems like we like similar products! Although my hair is a bit curlier than yours I too like hard hold and I'm all about the clumps!! I hope you'll try to lube the LOOB and report back.

I woke up this morning with flattened hair, misshapened curls with thinner clumps than I like but springy curls from recent PT. I decided to lube the LOOB and while wet thought perhaps I was premature in praising my new technique. Immediately after the application hair was not looking good -- stringy and slighly dull. I went about my day and lo and behold (dare I say it), my hair looked EVEN BETTER than yesterday. I gently scrunched my dry hair and it looked really good.

I might add that I LIGHTLY misted hair before applying the lube and LOOB that I mixed in my hands as opposed to sticking hands under water. Will keep playing with the water part of the technique...

Hi curlies. No one is trying the LOOB on second day hair? It's still working for me (the only thing that works). I've been lightly spritzing my hair with water, then adding the leave in followed by the LOOB. I find it easier to apply the LOOB if I emulsify with water in my hands by itself. I had been mixing it with the leave in in my hands but it doesn't mix and spread as evenly that way.

On a side note, for those of you who like to pineapple, how do you get it to work for you? My under layers are less curly (2c at nape, 3a on sides) and when I pineapple they are flattened and straight but the crown/canopy remains springy...

2/c-3a Coarse hair med. density.
Highly porous. Color over grey.
I love all the Curl Junkie products. Still experimenting with gels and curl creams. Still hoping for 2nd day hair.... Every day is a gift

What?!? Say it isn't so!!! I've seen it alot lately but at some stores it's kind of tucked away and hard to find. I'm hoping the person you spoke to was either confused or just lazy and didn't want to look. 

Hmmm...I don't think it's being discontinued! I see it all over the place. They even gave the bottle a whole new look. (I just bought a new tub, and they even changed one ingredient around -- fragrance is now all the way up the list instead of being at the very end. The scent doesn't smell any stronger, but IMO, that change was totally unnecessary! Ugh. I'm sensitive to fragrance, so I wasn't too happy. I dunno if it's gonna make me itchy now. ) I don't think they're discontinuing it...at least I HOPE they're not. LOOB has become like a HG product for me. I scrunch some in freshly washed hair when my hair is almost dry, and it's amazing at defining my hair!

Hmmm...I don't think it's being discontinued! I see it all over the place. They even gave the bottle a whole new look. (I just bought a new tub, and they even changed one ingredient around -- fragrance is now all the way up the list instead of being at the very end. The scent doesn't smell any stronger, but IMO, that change was totally unnecessary! Ugh. I'm sensitive to fragrance, so I wasn't too happy. I dunno if it's gonna make me itchy now. ) I don't think they're discontinuing it...at least I HOPE they're not. LOOB has become like a HG product for me. I scrunch some in freshly washed hair when my hair is almost dry, and it's amazing at defining my hair!

Originally Posted by wavynwild16

I hope it's not being discontinued either! Wavy, do you ever use LOOB on second day hair or when very wet or do you only use it like you mentioned when it's almost dry? I've used it after leave in and before gel and didn't really notice much of anything. What I do notice is that it helps clump and smooth second day hair like nothing else. When I use KCKT/KCCC sometimes my ends are a bit fluffy and the LOOB helps to seal the clumps without leaving it sticky, stringy or crunchy.

I have used LOOB on second day hair, it is ok.... I just don't think second day hair is something for me right now. I have pretty short hair and it is just easier for me to wet it and start over everyday. Now, when my hair was longer (past my shoulders) it worked great for second day hair.

I use it when my hair is wet, not REALLy wet. I put my hair in a turbie twist and then use the LOOB when I take it out, so it isn't dripping wet, but still wet, if that makes sense, haha!

Armpit length (dry), middle of back wet, 2c/3a, fine, porous, color-over-gray, normal elasticity. Trying so hard to grow it out.
CG since June 2011 and loving it so far.
Product Junkie-love anything CJ. Used to love KT and KCCC, but lately doing nothing for my hair but flattening it.
Am experimenting with products to see what works for me. Seems like I get different results every day even if I use the same products!

Hmmm...I don't think it's being discontinued! I see it all over the place. They even gave the bottle a whole new look. (I just bought a new tub, and they even changed one ingredient around -- fragrance is now all the way up the list instead of being at the very end. The scent doesn't smell any stronger, but IMO, that change was totally unnecessary! Ugh. I'm sensitive to fragrance, so I wasn't too happy. I dunno if it's gonna make me itchy now. ) I don't think they're discontinuing it...at least I HOPE they're not. LOOB has become like a HG product for me. I scrunch some in freshly washed hair when my hair is almost dry, and it's amazing at defining my hair!

Originally Posted by wavynwild16

I hope it's not being discontinued either! Wavy, do you ever use LOOB on second day hair or when very wet or do you only use it like you mentioned when it's almost dry? I've used it after leave in and before gel and didn't really notice much of anything. What I do notice is that it helps clump and smooth second day hair like nothing else. When I use KCKT/KCCC sometimes my ends are a bit fluffy and the LOOB helps to seal the clumps without leaving it sticky, stringy or crunchy.

Originally Posted by Cuban-curl-E

My favorite way to use LOOB is scrunching it into almost-dry hair. It works way awesome that way! It magically makes my hair super curly and clumpy and awesome! I tried it on 2nd day hair once when my hair was a lot longer, but it looked like it took my curl out, made my hair frizzy, and made my hair stringy. I might have to try it again to see how it works now! I also used LOOB as a sort of curl cream over my LI and under my gels in the winter. I noticed that it seemed to help with smoother and better/more consistent curls. It worked pretty good like that, but I really want something that delivers moisture for a curl cream, so I think my newly-acquired SM Smoothie will be replacing it this winter. (I ABSOLUTELY LOOOVE the Smoothie, BTW, in case you didn't see my complete rave on my thread, LOL! )

How do you like KCCC, BTW? It seems so awesome, but I would never get it because of the steep price. I really feel like getting into the more natural products is delivering lots more moisture and good stuff to my hair, and I wish I had the money to buy them all!

^ I personally LOVE KCCC, you definitely have to experiment and figure out the best amount for your hair but once you figure it out... WOW. it's a good hair day for me whenever I use it, with awesome frizz control. Not to mention it really makes my curls pop :3

I also love the scent and how natural the product is. The price is definitely it's biggest downfall, 17 buckaroons... Yeouch but the good thing is that a single jar lasts a long time so it's worth it

Wavy, to answer your question I love KCCC. It's unlike anything else I've used. I use the KCKT as leave in and add KCCC over that and top it off with hard hold gel (mostly on ends). It's a tricky product and it takes some trial and error to get it right but I highly recommend it.

Because it takes extra long to dry and is sooo crunchy as it's drying, i don't use it on days I'm going to work and have to do my hair in morning. I leave it for weekends, days I'm off from work, or wash hair at night and dry with diffuser. It also feels different when applying it. Just feels hard. Can't really describe it and as it dries my hair looks so stringy and crunchy but once dry and I scrunch it out, wow! Let me know if you try it! 