Kratos is a non-issue to the Norse gods. He isn't part of Ragnarök, so he's not fated to kill them. Loki trolls the crap out of Kratos while setting up Thor to drop a mountain on him. Then Odin shatters the whole thing with a toss from Gungnir, just for laughs.

big_adventure

05-05-2014, 12:00 AM

Just to speak from Norse myth, in one little tale, Thor smashed a good part of a mountain range, wrestled and nearly defeated the concept of Old Age, lifted the world serpent and drank so much of the ocean that the giants feared global calamity. For all Kratos is badass, he just isn't doing anything to the guy who does that. And that's the most mortal and fragile of the groups of gods here, albeit one group with some pretty good, explicit feats.

Numbuh24insane

05-05-2014, 12:11 AM

Just to speak from Norse myth, in one little tale, Thor smashed a good part of a mountain range, wrestled and nearly defeated the concept of Old Age, lifted the world serpent and drank so much of the ocean that the giants feared global calamity. For all Kratos is badass, he just isn't doing anything to the guy who does that. And that's the most mortal and fragile of the groups of gods here, albeit one group with some pretty good, explicit feats.

Several things Thor was humiliated by the Giants in that tale, he did not lift the entirety of the serpent only a small portion, he was wrecked by the old grandma that was old age, and couldn't drink the vail of air which was the ocean. Beside that, Thor destroys Kratos easily.

big_adventure

05-05-2014, 01:46 AM

Several things Thor was humiliated by the Giants in that tale, he did not lift the entirety of the serpent only a small portion, he was wrecked by the old grandma that was old age, and couldn't drink the vail of air which was the ocean. Beside that, Thor destroys Kratos easily.

I never said Thor was not humiliated by the tricks of Utgard-Loki in that story, I just listed the feats. And he reduced the quantity of the oceans by feet, managed to move Old Age, and did indeed lift most of the serpent. Such results were copped to by Utgard-Loki himself at the conclusion of the tale, when he explained what happened.

Primetime Harder

05-05-2014, 02:51 AM

OK, so I just came up with an interesting scenario for Kratos vs. the Aesir.

To get into Asgard in the first place, he'd have to go through Heimdall. Since Heimdall is fated to die during Ragnarök, that's not happening. Kratos would have to change fate - a feat he's accomplished before - so he'd have to shimmy down the World Tree, all the way to the Well of Urđr. There he'd have to convince the Norns to change the fate of the gods for him, which would result in their laughing in his face and probably booting him back up to Midgard.

At that point, Loki would probably appear to him and offer to help, provided he accomplishes some ridiculous task like moving all the grains of sand on a beach or something. This is probably when Odin catches wind of Kratos' plans, and promptly sends Thor and Baldr (or Frey, if this happens after Baldr's death) to stomp him flat.

Numbuh24insane

05-05-2014, 03:23 AM

I never said Thor was not humiliated by the tricks of Utgard-Loki in that story, I just listed the feats. And he reduced the quantity of the oceans by feet, managed to move Old Age, and did indeed lift most of the serpent. Such results were copped to by Utgard-Loki himself at the conclusion of the tale, when he explained what happened.

No you overstated the feats, you said he almost beat old age which isn't true at all, though he did move old age. You also said he lifted most of the serpent, but he only lifted one paw which hardly quantifies as most.

big_adventure

05-05-2014, 08:49 AM

No you overstated the feats, you said he almost beat old age which isn't true at all, though he did move old age. You also said he lifted most of the serpent, but he only lifted one paw which hardly quantifies as most.

I think that you have to go back and reread the story - he moved Old Age which was something terrifying to the giants, and moved the whole serpent - the paw was the illusion cast to make it a humiliation - which also scared the crap out of them.