I believe the only really specific functionality that is missing is packages. But that's a chicken and egg problem, since the users create most of them.

So are you saying that Quirky 1.0 will effectively be Puppy 5.0?

NO! Puppy 5.0 will be mainstream but upmarket in terms of the latest kernel, up-to-date drivers for newer machinery etc. That always seems to come at a price for legacy hardware so 4.x will stick around as the mainstream for a while yet.

Quirky builds as much as possible into the kernel - Barry's aim was the WHOLE distro if possible. I don't know what the state of play is with that ambition as I don't follow Quirky development on Barry's blog. IT IS EXPERIMENTAL and so of little interest to me beyond curiosity.

Puppy 5.0 mainstream will be any Woof build that intends to supply all of the above plus binary compatibility with one of the major distro's for repository access. Lupu is the first serious attempt, although Dpup was pretty good and may still have a life. Guy (gposil) seems to be fairly quiet of late.

The differences with Quirky have yet to surface in terms of functionality (no packages), but in terms of intent there is no difference. It's all in the ingredients and the baking. You can expect Quirky to break in some circumstances. I say again IT IS EXPERIMENTAL! _________________Actions speak louder than words ... and they usually work when words don't!
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Are you asking for a broadline on what we want to see in Puppy 6 or what we should do with the revisions between 5.1 and 5.9?

if the first, i'd like to see puppy 6 be based on a "non application core" and everything else as sets of .sts's, (being defined sets of applications,) and .pet's, (as individual applications). Especially now that, according to BarryK, we can add a decent number of .sts's to the system. Also all sts's and pets should be "backward compatable" with the earlier core's of the 6.x series, one of the bugbear and most time consuming problems we have at present.

if the second, i'd like to see versions using ALL of the major distro's versions developed, say as a set using a code like 5.7.osuse11, 5.7.ubun10, 5.7.fed12, 5.7cb9 (CrunchBang), 5.7.abs13 (absolute linux), 5.7mand2010, etc.

and eventually with 5.8 being able to use ANY package repositry (from any distro.)

then 5.9 being 5.8 plus being able to pull in source and build a compatable pet with only a few keystrokes.

And yes I do know that will take much work, mainly scripting and profiling I think.

Regarding the triple-whammy, I'll change it to:
Lucid Puppy
Wary Puppy
Quirky Puppy
...I'll aim at releasing my Quirky at the same time. The main difference is that Quirky won't have the rolled-back Xorg, just the full-steam ahead bleeding edge.

phtttt.... Open your eyes, bud! Try my very first post following your question. How much clearer does it have to be????? Geez, Louise! Hey, if you don't want to take MY word for it, what about this from Barry?

BarryK wrote:

Quirky 1.0
I, Barry Kauler, the founder of Puppy Linux and Woof, created Quirky as an avenue to explore new ideas. There may be some features in this distro that you won't find in other puppies, either different applications and utilities, different system scripts/behaviour, or even some fundamentally new underlying behaviour. This is very much a moving target. Quirky is currently built from packages compiled in T2. Some of the ideas may be a bit strange, hence the name "Quirky"!

Lobster wrote:

Completely new users are best served by either Lucid or Quirky

Aw, Lob, tell me you just didn't ignore everything that's been said. Do you really want "Completely new users..." fanging around in Quirky? Especially when Barry has made it clear that is "bleeding edge"? _________________Actions speak louder than words ... and they usually work when words don't!
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Ideally I would like to recommend 4.4 or 4.3.2
but if a new user said should I try Quirky, 4.3..1 or await the Lucid release
m m m . . . depends . . .
My sisters will be provided with Puppy 5 Lucid . . .
Barry is gonna bug test it - it feels good

The answers are now more fluid, more choice, more possibilities

I am hoping for Dpup to return. 4.4 is very good.
Puppy is growing up. _________________Puppy WIKI

Life in the Puppysphere seems to throw up some unexpected or "Quirky" issues - something like Einsteins's (lol) Theory of Relativity where normality takes a holiday and Quirkiness rules instead.

Quirky was certainly meant as a bleeding edge test-bed for the latest ideas - complete with the caveat that it might not suit beginners or users who want things "just to work". So be warned!

Unexpectedly though, Quirky has turned out to be remarkably stable and well-behaved. I know this from having tested several versions of it. It might well be fine for use by newcomers. May not work with every single hardware combination - but the same can also be said of non-Quirky versions too.

Simply a case of intentions turning out other than expected.

OK say I'm a newbie and need advice about which Puppy version to go for. How would you lay out the options for me and on what basis?_________________Life is too short to spend it in front of a computer

OK say I'm a newbie and need advice about which Puppy version to go for. How would you lay out the options for me and on what basis?

Depends on how computer savvy they are.
if they are like me they most likely should try Lupu first?

Because it has a good info on choice of browsers so those that love Chromium can get that one without having to learn how to install things the manual way can just click. And those of us like me who are into Firefox can get that one almost instantly.

I am very unsure of if they have graphic driver problems which works best.

Q21 failed for me but Q1 worked and Lupu works out of the box but choose vesa and one have to set it up after that so that could be a big help because one can read suggestions by others while on Q1 if it fail with graphic then you are on your own with a black screen and hard reboot.

So I am a Chicken Guy. I would say one should always try all three. in this order.

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not an ideal solution though

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