Comments on: Colt McCoy doesn’t think James Harrison hit was a cheap shothttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/08/colt-mccoy-doesnt-think-james-harrison-hit-was-a-cheap-shot/
ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.comFri, 09 Dec 2016 13:30:16 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: psychosteelerhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/08/colt-mccoy-doesnt-think-james-harrison-hit-was-a-cheap-shot/#comment-1836847
Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:51:46 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=844790#comment-1836847there was face mask to facemask contact.if u dont see it u r blind.super slo mo it and really see.earl cambell in that old highlight against the rams is a crown of the helmet hit and maybe tatum on earl campbell same year.aside from those ive seen very few ever and none by harrison.document and send video to prove otherwise because opinions mean nothing.i dont want to hear that you think or you believe blah blah i want evidence on video diagrammed and proven.
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Fri, 08 Jun 2012 23:50:56 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=844790#comment-1825217Steelers fan here. The hit was dirty. Period end. Harrison seen the chance to helmet to helmet him and took it. Props to Colt for not whining about it. But, there is no question that shot was dirty.

I will argue until i’m blue in the face that his hit on Massaqoui was legal and not dirty since Massaquoi ducked into it. I argue when there is reasonable doubt. There is no doubt in my mind that he meant to knock Colt out. The loophole that he was a “runner” may be enough to prevent any huge suspension or fine but, it is not enough to convince any unbias person (aka anyone other than the terrible, embarrassing, “got six?”, homer, steelers fans).

Unfortunately, he is dirty. But, at least he didn’t murder anyone….sorry Ravens fans but, I couldn’t resist. I know you were probably thinking…”hey, a Steelers fan that I like.” hahaha….but, seriously….Ray killed that guy.

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Fri, 08 Jun 2012 23:11:04 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=844790#comment-1825153Spot on qball spot on
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Fri, 08 Jun 2012 20:41:31 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=844790#comment-1824847These people who say Harrison has made illegal hits please name 1 hit that he has made that was illegal. Harrison has made hits to the chest that was fined. Everyone harps on Harrison but no one talks about how many times he is choked by OTs on damn near every play. Nor is the same helmet to helmet or hands to helmet hits that gets Steeler players fined called when they are done on Steeler players.
This is the double standard that is causing the NFL to turn into the WWE.
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Fri, 08 Jun 2012 20:33:32 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=844790#comment-1824836@qball59

My comments are spot on. Unlike you, I’ve actually played the game and I know what I’m talking about.

If you disagree with my observations then you should try making a substantive rebuttal to them, as opposed to responding with mere vacuous invective. Of course, if you are incapable of doing so, then please accept my apologies for imposing the burden of critical thought on you.

It is physically impossible to tackle a ballcarrier correctly without leading with your head. Regardless of what Roger Goodell thinks, it cannot be done. Period. An athlete ALWAYS leans forward when they run, therefore a football player will ALWAYS lead with his head when making a tackle. (To tackle someone without leading with your head would require a player to run backwards and then sit on the ball carrier. Is that the type of football you want to see played in the NFL?).

As for this BS about “tackling with the shoulder” a.k.a. arm-tackling, that’s a great way to 1) dislocate your shoulder, 2) get run over by the ball carrier as he breaks your lame-ass tackle and 3) get your butt chewed out by your coaches. If you don’t understand that, then please stop posting here and making a public display of your ignorance of the game of football.

Also, the “crown” of the helmet is the VERY TOP of the helmet; i.e. where one would wear a crown (duh…). You could probably watch every game in the NFL over the next 10 years and not see someone tackle by leading with the crown of their helmet. It’s dumb, dangerous and has been outlawed and coached against down to the high school level since at least the 1970s. People who accuse James Harrison (or any NFL player for that matter) of leading with the crown of his helmet are simply ignorant jackasses who have absolutely no clue what they are talking about.

Purple uniforms? Who does that?
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ummm…the Vikings…

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Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:43:38 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=844790#comment-1824407If only his dad was as stand up a guy as his son is in this instance. A father has no right to keep gravytraining his sons existence the way this guys dad does.
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Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:40:08 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=844790#comment-1824394Yeah, let’s up the level of violence in other sports too. In MLB they should start letting the batter carry the bat with him around the bases to knock fielders out of the way. And if a fielder beans a runner in the head with the ball it’s an out.
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Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:39:58 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=844790#comment-1824392Colt, will you ever tire of proving me wrong?? I thought you didn’t have the grit to play in the NFL, but you’ve demonstrated courage and character in every way possible. Kudos to you!

The loss of offensive weapons last season, primarily Hillis, wasn’t Colt’s fault, and it’s too bad he didn’t get a real chance to follow through on a promising rookie year.

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Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:36:40 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=844790#comment-1824380jakek2 says:
Jun 8, 2012 11:50 AM
Perfect form tackle on a runner.
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I greatly disagree with this. A perfect form tackle is when you hit your opponent in the midsection with your shoulder, wrap your arms around him, lift him off his feet, and drive him back and down.

Harrison is a damn fine LB, but he keeps using his head to make tackles. He could have snapped McCoy in two making a proper tackle, and he wouldn’t have had to deal with fines, dirty player accusations, or possible suspensions. Stop the head hunting.

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Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:36:06 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=844790#comment-1824378He’s trying to undo what his helicopter dad said.
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Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:34:56 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=844790#comment-1824376“Although he doesn’t remember the hit, McCoy said he has watched it several times. And after seeing the replays, he’s not mad at Harrison. Which probably matters to Harrison not at all.”

Thanks for the superfluous editorializing you Mr. Smith. Harrison is not the sole root of the problem: it’s team medical staffs who have conflicts on interest about diagnosing the severity of head hits. Maybe the Browns medical staff should be apologizing to Colt and not just Harrison, but that would diverge from your agenda of demonizing Harrison, you hack.

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Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:30:06 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=844790#comment-1824357James Harrison is an awesome defensive player, and one of the reasons I enjoy watching Steelers’ games (even though they aren’t “my team”). However he HAS delivered illegal hits in the past, and been punished for them. He’s certainly within his rights to be unapologetic and make public defiant comments regarding illegal hits/fines/Roger Goodell/etc. Right or wrong, Harrison’s past actions and statements put him under extra scrutiny.
All that being said, I don’t think the hit he put on McCoy was illegal.
As for Colt McCoy, talent wise he’ll never be a Drew Brees, Eli Manning, or Tom Brady. But you won’t see him flopping on the field trying to draw a penalty, complaining to the ref’s during games, or crying to the media about hard hits (unlike some star QB’s). I don’t think it’s fair to hold him responsible for comments his dad made after the game (I seriously doubt his dad ran it by Colt prior to talking with the media). While it wasn’t real smart for his dad to do it, I can understand he reacted like most parents would want to (no matter if their kid was 13 or 30 years old) after watching their son get destroyed on a hit, suffer a pretty obvious concussion, then receive a pat on the butt as they’re sent back into the game.
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Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:25:34 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=844790#comment-1824353I love that he’s not crying like most QB’s would… but you know he’s only saying that as to not anger the beast. He knows he has to see him twice a year…

Well played Colt.. well played.

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Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:17:26 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=844790#comment-1824337Kudos to McCoy for his show of character. Harrison had the right to lay it on him but his lack of character took advantage of the situation. I personally do not fault the play. But the Browns staff sending that kid back onto that field afterwards warrants action by Goodell more so than Harrisons’ hit
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Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:05:31 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=844790#comment-1824304My first thought is that his brain is still mush. However I prefer to think that he is just telling a competitor good job on a play.

For those people bagging on Goodell about clamping down on helmet to helmet hits. It is the players and former players that are causing this, not Goodell. I am sure he would prefer to let them beat themselves bloody, it allows him to beat them at negotiations easier.

Was the tackle a cheap shot, NO. Was it an illegal tackle – YES. Remember that there has been a rule about tackles while leading with your head and making crown to helmet shots. Did it deserve a suspension, probably not. However he didn’t get a suspension for just that hit, he got the suspension for repeat violations.

Harrison should care, if the people that he injured come out and say that his hits weren’t cheap, that should go a long way to help with his point that he isn’t a dirty player.

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Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:54:03 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=844790#comment-1824277He’s only saying that because he might be playing for the Steelers soon.
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Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:50:20 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=844790#comment-1824267Perfect form tackle on a runner. With his tackle, Harrison has actually made the game safer than anything that dope Goodell could implement. QBs scrambling around like chickens with their heads cut off will now think twice about doing so. If just one throws the ball away to save his melon thinking that he could be the next McCoy, then Harrison did a service to the NFL.
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Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:44:24 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=844790#comment-1824253I don’t agree with your last line. It should matter to Harrison that someone he was accused of cheap shot-ing is coming out publicly in his defense.

Lord knows it doesn’t happen very often.

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Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:39:28 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=844790#comment-1824240That’s a real football player , he’s not crying when he takes a hit
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Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:37:57 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=844790#comment-1824236Only 1 explanation for this: Harrison concussed McCoy to the point that he forgot what actually took place.