zikzak

k87 wrote:If I get this computer, should I shell out $30 and upgrade to Mountain Lion? What are the costs/benefits of the upgrade? (I don't have in iPhone)

I would not have upgraded to ML on its .0 release (like they say, never buy .0 of anything), but 10.8.2 has apparently fixed some of the nagging early problems like poor battery life. I'm now looking at finally upgrading my MacBook Pro to it.

LittleTinyMonkey

nobgobblin69

I was just telling hubby that if Apple comps were easy to use like the iphone i'd love to try one out. Hmmm is this worthwhile or still too much money? love the whole ieasy thing. Lot's of ihaters, i know but maybe they don't understand we, the technotards!

room209

neuropsychosocial

zikzak wrote:I would not have upgraded to ML on its .0 release (like they say, never buy .0 of anything), but 10.8.2 has apparently fixed some of the nagging early problems like poor battery life. I'm now looking at finally upgrading my MacBook Pro to it.

I upgraded to Mountain Lion on Day 1 - on the same Macbook Air (mid-2011) that woot is offering today - and have had no problems. I really like Reminders and the voice recognition software, although I dislike that I need to be connected to the internet to use it.

I adore my Macbook Air (mid-2011). It's an absolute dream to carry around - it's hard to understand how light it is until you hold it. I typically get around six hours of battery life with a combination of word processing/internet/stat package (although much less if I'm streaming video), so I rarely need to carry the power cord.

My only complaint is that after using this as my only computer for a year, prior neck problems flared up; the screen really is fairly tiny. This is great for travel and portability, but if you're using this as your only laptop, you might want to get an external monitor and keyboard; I finally did and it's made a huge difference.

Edit: Hey woot, if you're offering a Mickey Air Comb, could you suspend the word filter for M!A!C! for one day?

zikzak

FYI for comparison: This Woot is new, there is a previous gen refurb with twice the RAM and SSD at the Apple refurb site for $10 more. They also have a current gen refurb with similar specs for $10 less.
Apple refurb site

Edit: Hey no fair Woot...your string substitution is subbing out the word "m ac" at the end of a URL, breaking my link!

nobgobblin69

Yes! They have maps! But seeing as I don't know about ethernet chances are pretty good that I don't need one. My response is only because of my previous post about being a technotard. Never mind. I too enjoy snarkism!

teenracer6

nobgobblin69 wrote:Yes! They have maps! But seeing as I don't know about ethernet chances are pretty good that I don't need one. My response is only because of my previous post about being a technotard. Never mind. I too enjoy snarkism!

Ethernet is used for a wired connection between your modem or router and your computer (or other wired device). It is more reliable than wireless connection, and speeds tend to be better in terms of downloading and uploading. The main downside is being stuck in a certain area around where the cord is and its length.

I personally prefer a wired connection whenever possible, but I am not going to drag an ethernet cord into Starbucks or something.

nobgobblin69

teenracer6 wrote:Ethernet is used for a wired connection between your modem or router and your computer (or other wired device). It is more reliable than wireless connection, and speeds tend to be better in terms of downloading and uploading. The main downside is being stuck in a certain area around where the cord is and its length.

I personally prefer a wired connection whenever possible, but I am not going to drag an ethernet cord into Starbucks or something.

Thanks for explaining that! As long as it has internet I guess I'm good. I just dabble on non-work things like pogo game sites, facebook. I'm probably good. Don't edit video or anything serious. Just an old house wife. Oh what to do, what to do..

nobgobblin69

nobgobblin69 wrote:Thanks for explaining that! As long as it has internet I guess I'm good. I just dabble on non-work things like pogo game sites, facebook. I'm probably good. Don't edit video or anything serious. Just an old house wife. Oh what to do, what to do..

Ok, so you seem kinda nice, I'm going out on a limb here by asking a dumb question. Are you on a Mac? If so can you play games on Pogo? I don't understand the whole "flash" thing.

teenracer6

nobgobblin69 wrote:Ok, so you seem kinda nice, I'm going out on a limb here by asking a dumb question. Are you on a Mac? If so can you play games on Pogo? I don't understand the whole "flash" thing.

Yes, you can play Pogo on a Mac, or a PC, so long as you have Java installed. (If you have Java active, make sure you have an antivirus with real time protection. I suggest Microsoft Security Essentials on a PC.) I wouldnt suggest Linux for someone of your PC experience thought. If you are only trying to play Pogo and do Facebook and stuff of the sort, this may be a little overpriced for you, unless you want the Apple as a status symbol.

ashliz8806 wrote:Going to a Wizards game and being disappointed is like going swimming and getting wet...If you didn't expect it, I'm not sure I trust your judgment.

showcaller

It's not about the money, something very few seem to understand. The Macs regardless of which model you choose are far more intuitive (therefore "easy") than their PC counterparts. I have yet found anyone who can place a dollar value on "easy". I only know that whenever I have had to use a PC, it is like trying to write with my left hand and I am right handed - it just seems borderline fruitless! That said, much of what is considered "easy" is what one grew up with so if all you know are PC's then there is a good chance you might feel awkward when you get your hands on a Mac. More people stay with a Mac once they try it. The "Air" has gotten really good reviews and is probably the biggest seller now. If you are really serious about this and if there is an Apple store near where you live, you might want to head to it tomorrow morning and look at a couple of the other models, the 13" MacBook Pro stands out. The larger screen might be worth the extra $150 - $200 plus you will have the added benefit of playing with all of the Mac computers for hours on end, asking the Mac folks all the questions you want until both their ears and yours turn blue. If if you don't walk out of the store with a new laptop (or refurbished through the Apple website, or buy this computer online when you are at the Apple store - you will still get a great education on how the Apple side of computing works. Good luck, have fun and happy wooting!

nobgobblin69 wrote:I was just telling hubby that if Apple comps were easy to use like the iphone i'd love to try one out. Hmmm is this worthwhile or still too much money? love the whole ieasy thing. Lot's of ihaters, i know but maybe they don't understand we, the technotards!

nobgobblin69

teenracer6 wrote:Yes, you can play Pogo on a Mac, or a PC, so long as you have Java installed. (If you have Java active, make sure you have an antivirus with real time protection. I suggest Microsoft Security Essentials on a PC.) I wouldnt suggest Linux for someone of your PC experience thought. If you are only trying to play Pogo and do Facebook and stuff of the sort, this may be a little overpriced for you, unless you want the Apple as a status symbol.

Hope i'm not replying to myself again. But no.. status is useless. nobody cares. it's about ease of use. making it do things it can do w/o me asking... bob??? how do i..
it's why i love my iphone. *I* can do what it can do all by myself and it's a great feeling! People that can figure out all that on their own just don't get people like me that are clueless about techie stuff. It's a lot of money for sure. But it's so much less than the new one i was eyeballing at best buy!

nobgobblin69

showcaller wrote:It's not about the money, something very few seem to understand. The Macs regardless of which model you choose are far more intuitive (therefore "easy") than their PC counterparts. I have yet found anyone who can place a dollar value on "easy". I only know that whenever I have had to use a PC, it is like trying to write with my left hand and I am right handed - it just seems borderline fruitless! That said, much of what is considered "easy" is what one grew up with so if all you know are PC's then there is a good chance you might feel awkward when you get your hands on a Mac. More people stay with a Mac once they try it. The "Air" has gotten really good reviews and is probably the biggest seller now. If you are really serious about this and if there is an Apple store near where you live, you might want to head to it tomorrow morning and look at a couple of the other models, the 13" MacBook Pro stands out. The larger screen might be worth the extra $150 - $200 plus you will have the added benefit of playing with all of the Mac computers for hours on end, asking the Mac folks all the questions you want until both their ears and yours turn blue. If if you don't walk out of the store with a new laptop (or refurbished through the Apple website, or buy this computer online when you are at the Apple store - you will still get a great education on how the Apple side of computing works. Good luck, have fun and happy wooting!

Well thank so much! you get it! that's it! I'm scared to take the plunge. I only know pc. It's very scary. All i know is I had mp3 players before ipods. i could NOT figure them out! I got an ipod and wow!!! it felt so good to know what i was doing.
I had the cell phones. My best was Rzer but I had to ask over and over... how do i get to? how do i make it?
I was first in line in '07! If that phone worked like that ipod, i need one!
Hubby called me nuts. laughed out loud literally.
WE have had every model of iphone since. I got an ipad. he got a diff one.. big name, just can't remember it. He now has an ipad. And that other big name was supposed to be easy as istuff. Guess not..
I think i will sleep on it. maybe it will sell out and i won't have to jump tonite or even debate myself.
Thanks again for speaking to me and letting me know someone "gets" this! It was a xoom zoom grrrr a motorola thing!

teenracer6

nobgobblin69 wrote:Hope i'm not replying to myself again. But no.. status is useless. nobody cares. it's about ease of use. making it do things it can do w/o me asking... bob??? how do i..
it's why i love my iphone. *I* can do what it can do all by myself and it's a great feeling! People that can figure out all that on their own just don't get people like me that are clueless about techie stuff. It's a lot of money for sure. But it's so much less than the new one i was eyeballing at best buy!

I mean it really depends on what you start with. I will admit that the Mac interface is probably more simple to use for new computer buyers, so maybe a mac is the way to go for you. I grew up with PC's all my life, and I dig into the advanced and such, so Apple is like a 2nd language to me. Try them both out at a retail store (like best buy), and see which interface you like best.

ashliz8806 wrote:Going to a Wizards game and being disappointed is like going swimming and getting wet...If you didn't expect it, I'm not sure I trust your judgment.

nobgobblin69

teenracer6 wrote:I mean it really depends on what you start with. I will admit that the Mac interface is probably more simple to use for new computer buyers, so maybe a mac is the way to go for you. I grew up with PC's all my life, and I dig into the advanced and such, but Apple is like a 2nd language to me. Try them both out at a retail store (like best buy), and see which interface you like best.

That's a great suggestion. I really need to stop being impulsive and think lol

showcaller

I agree! You should sleep on this because frankly it is a decision you are going to have to live with for a couple of years - probably more! If you already own an iPhone I would suggest you are probably more than half way there as far what it is like behind the wheel of any of the Macs. Sometime when you have a half hour head over to an Apple store and just start playing with any of the laptops near the front of the store. They are there for that very purpose - for people to come in and touch them and see what happens. Within moments some guy or girl is going to ask you if you have any questions. You will, even if it is "How do I get this thing to work?" Trust me on this one, you will have more fun than seeing a therapist!

nobgobblin69 wrote:Well thank so much! you get it! that's it! I'm scared to take the plunge. I only know pc. It's very scary. All i know is I had mp3 players before ipods. i could NOT figure them out! I got an ipod and wow!!! it felt so good to know what i was doing.
I had the cell phones. My best was Rzer but I had to ask over and over... how do i get to? how do i make it?
I was first in line in '07! If that phone worked like that ipod, i need one!
Hubby called me nuts. laughed out loud literally.
WE have had every model of iphone since. I got an ipad. he got a diff one.. big name, just can't remember it. He now has an ipad. And that other big name was supposed to be easy as istuff. Guess not..
I think i will sleep on it. maybe it will sell out and i won't have to jump tonite or even debate myself.
Thanks again for speaking to me and letting me know someone "gets" this! It was a xoom zoom grrrr a motorola thing!

nobgobblin69

showcaller wrote:I agree! You should sleep on this because frankly it is a decision you are going to have to live with for a couple of years - probably more! If you already own an iPhone I would suggest you are probably more than half way there as far what it is like behind the wheel of any of the Macs. Sometime when you have a half hour head over to an Apple store and just start playing with any of the laptops near the front of the store. They are there for that very purpose - for people to come in and touch them and see what happens. Within moments some guy or girl is going to ask you if you have any questions. You will, even if it is "How do I get this thing to work?" Trust me on this one, you will have more fun than seeing a therapist!

Can I do the same thing at a Best Buy? Not sure where the nearest Apple store is. I'd love to just play and see how it goes and if I can get comfy in a decent amount of time. If I am comfy, I will start saving up for a better one! May as well go big lol.
Thanks to ALL of you that helped talk me down tonite and gave me enough answers (mainly Pogo answers!) to know that a Mac will do what I need it to do, which isn't much lol THANK YOU, Nob

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