“Talk about a waste,” he tells FierceWireless. “If we had known they were just going to shut it down and never really give it a chance to flourish, what would have been the point of selling the company? I think the deal we had with Verizon really hurt us, but who knew that at the time? These things are all hindsight.”

Rubinstein says that he alone wasn’t responsible for Palm’s fate, however, and notes that the company “was dying when I got there.” He also claims vindication by saying that carriers have finally realized that forcing device manufacturers to carry their bloatware is a losing proposition.

“We always argued with the carriers,” he says. “They wanted to have their specific goofy services and stuff, and they would pressure to try and support their stuff when we didn’t want to. All of that stuff has gone away. No one uses that stuff anymore.”