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Re: Rolleyes News of The Day

Max Plank: "A new scientific truth does not
triumph by convincing its opponents and making them
see the light,
but rather because its opponents eventually die"
Arthur Shopenhauer: "Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized.
First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is opposed. Third, it is regarded as self evident."
Martin Niemöller:
"When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.When they came for the trade unionists,I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;I wasn't a Jew.When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out."

Re: Rolleyes News of The Day

Lemme explain abit about the Obama post above.

I simply dont like politicians getting into religion. Leave it alone what people do on Sunday or Saturday or Friday.
Just dont go there because it shouldnt be part of a campaign.
Its a no win thing to talk about.

Re: Rolleyes News of The Day

Hey Jim, about the FAA/Airlines/Cancelled Flights deal?

The FAA has these rules that the airlines are supposed to follow. Maintenance schedules, occasional new inspections if a question has come up, changes in procedure. THIS TIME, there was an order sent out that said:

If you have MD-80's in your fleet, the FAA kindly requires you to check to make sure that some wire restraints were installed correctly, and if you have one of the planes where it was NOT done correctly, you have to fix it. Not a biggie, you don't have to pull them now, but next maintenance schedule before (whatever deadline date) you are required to check this out and fix it if you find it. Thank you.

So, of course, the airlines blew it off, and the deadline passed. It's just wire wraps, not a fire hazard, so the airline's maintenance dept decided to get around to it when the new MD-PIGS were scheduled to fly.

Now somebody in the FAA came through on a normal inspection, found it not done, and said, "OK, cool, you didn't do the required work. Your call. Of course, you understand that I have to fine you $10,000/day/plane* until you are in compliance. Any questions, call me at (800) 555-3217. Have a nice day."

THAT'S when the airlines decided to ground the fleet. The FAA wasn't telling 'em to ground it, they decided to do it on their own... because it cost them less to screw up all these flights than it did to pay the fines for not doing basic required maintenance/changes. The FAA hasn't changed the rules, they haven't changed their enforcement, they've just followed procedure. The Airlines prewed the scootch, that's all.

Re: Rolleyes News of The Day

Originally Posted by Fluff n Stuff

Hey Jim, about the FAA/Airlines/Cancelled Flights deal?

The FAA has these rules that the airlines are supposed to follow. Maintenance schedules, occasional new inspections if a question has come up, changes in procedure. THIS TIME, there was an order sent out that said:So, of course, the airlines blew it off, and the deadline passed. It's just wire wraps, not a fire hazard, so the airline's maintenance dept decided to get around to it when the new MD-PIGS were scheduled to fly.

Now somebody in the FAA came through on a normal inspection, found it not done, and said, "OK, cool, you didn't do the required work. Your call. Of course, you understand that I have to fine you $10,000/day/plane* until you are in compliance. Any questions, call me at (800) 555-3217. Have a nice day."

THAT'S when the airlines decided to ground the fleet. The FAA wasn't telling 'em to ground it, they decided to do it on their own... because it cost them less to screw up all these flights than it did to pay the fines for not doing basic required maintenance/changes. The FAA hasn't changed the rules, they haven't changed their enforcement, they've just followed procedure. The Airlines prewed the scootch, that's all.

* Not the actual figure, just an example.

OK. I understand it better now...it was difficult to read/understand who exactly was at fault.

Re: Rolleyes News of The Day

Federal Aviation Administration ordered the carrier to ground 300 planes for inspection — are the aviation equivalent of a traffic cop behind on his quota blanketing a street with tickets to avoid catching heat from his sergeant. Woe unto thee unlucky enough to double park. The cop in this scenario is the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). The agency responsible for policing the safety of the nation's airlines has been under intense pressure over the last few weeks, ever since an investigation by the House Transportation Committee revealed in March that an FAA supervisor allowed Southwest Airlines to fly 46 planes that had missed inspections. Congress has been holding hearings on aviation safety, during which Robert Sturgell, the FAA's acting administrator, who is up for the permanent position, has had to answer charges, from whistleblowers and lawmakers, of excessive coziness with and lax oversight of the nation's commercial carriers.

Re: Rolleyes News of The Day

And yes, I'm a foreigner. But it takes one to know one, and this guy seems weirdly disconnected from everything except neo-segregationist Afrocentric grievance politics and upscale white liberal condescension. Not much of a coalition.

Re: Rolleyes News of The Day

And yes, I'm a foreigner. But it takes one to know one, and this guy seems weirdly disconnected from everything except neo-segregationist Afrocentric grievance politics and upscale white liberal condescension. Not much of a coalition.

And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.