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9 Jan 2019 2:42PM

A tad off-topic , but I would advise against buying any pointed nose board if you are not a pro. Boards with a wider nose tip (be it a bullet nose, square, diamond, ... but not as wide as the early Tomos) bring so much in safety in hairy situations (heavy drops, re-entries, hollow sections) with no drawbacks (and even a slightly reduced swing weight) that it would be a pity not to get one in 2019.

Things like the Infinity RNB, Starboard pro, Gong Karmen, ... and others. Even Tomo is going this way with his new designs like the Hydronaut, Cymatic...

It is not only the added area in the nose, but the more parallel rail outlines there that does the trick. Pros can use anything, but these new noses are a boon for all riders.

NSW

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cantSUPenough said..I don't suppose anyone is familiar with both the Sunova Acid and the new Prowave. The review and board look great but I am wondering how different they would be.

I have only surfed an acid 9'1" (?) a couple of times so not qualified to make a comparision. I have been surfing the 8'9" prowave consistently over the past month. Int rider 90kg. Surf points and local beach breaks. Like previous models, the prowave loves powerful waves..feels natural to be tight in the pocket and critical sections. However, surfs much better in small beach break than previous models imo. It feels much lighter under foot, way easier to paddle in and when you engage the rail, seems to move into auto pilot on fast radical turns. When you turn, hold on! I found the prowave way more stable than my limited time on the acid. Not as bullet proof as the acid so need to take care.

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cantSUPenough said..I don't suppose anyone is familiar with both the Sunova Acid and the new Prowave. The review and board look great but I am wondering how different they would be.

I have only surfed an acid 9'1" (?) a couple of times so not qualified to make a comparision. I have been surfing the 8'9" prowave consistently over the past month. Int rider 90kg. Surf points and local beach breaks. Like previous models, the prowave loves powerful waves..feels natural to be tight in the pocket and critical sections. However, surfs much better in small beach break than previous models imo. It feels much lighter under foot, way easier to paddle in and when you engage the rail, seems to move into auto pilot on fast radical turns. When you turn, hold on! I found the prowave way more stable than my limited time on the acid. Not as bullet proof as the acid so need to take care.

Thanks Fepsi!

Have you ridden a Hokua X32 by any chance? The Prowave looks like it has much thinner rails, so I guess there is no comparison, but I wondered about the rocker - the X32 used to plow through the water in smaller waves.

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9 Jan 2019 7:00PM

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colas said..A tad off-topic , but I would advise against buying any pointed nose board if you are not a pro. Boards with a wider nose tip (be it a bullet nose, square, diamond, ... but not as wide as the early Tomos) bring so much in safety in hairy situations (heavy drops, re-entries, hollow sections) with no drawbacks (and even a slightly reduced swing weight) that it would be a pity not to get one in 2019.

Things like the Infinity RNB, Starboard pro, Gong Karmen, ... and others. Even Tomo is going this way with his new designs like the Hydronaut, Cymatic...

It is not only the added area in the nose, but the more parallel rail outlines there that does the trick. Pros can use anything, but these new noses are a boon for all riders.

NSW

71 posts

NSW, 71 posts

cantSUPenough said..I don't suppose anyone is familiar with both the Sunova Acid and the new Prowave. The review and board look great but I am wondering how different they would be.

I have only surfed an acid 9'1" (?) a couple of times so not qualified to make a comparision. I have been surfing the 8'9" prowave consistently over the past month. Int rider 90kg. Surf points and local beach breaks. Like previous models, the prowave loves powerful waves..feels natural to be tight in the pocket and critical sections. However, surfs much better in small beach break than previous models imo. It feels much lighter under foot, way easier to paddle in and when you engage the rail, seems to move into auto pilot on fast radical turns. When you turn, hold on! I found the prowave way more stable than my limited time on the acid. Not as bullet proof as the acid so need to take care.

Thanks Fepsi!

Have you ridden a Hokua X32 by any chance? The Prowave looks like it has much thinner rails, so I guess there is no comparison, but I wondered about the rocker - the X32 used to plow through the water in smaller waves.

Yes - I had an 8'3" x32. I found this really fun in small waves up to head high...super easy to throw around as it was so light. Made every drop no matter how late. I found it very slow to paddle due to the width and lacked drive in juice. In comparison, the prowave is way faster to paddle and has great drive when it pumps - feels like it picks up speed when going from rail to rail. Rails are huge on the x32 - I tended to dishpan on that board. The rocker on the prowave feels spot on for me...excellent in the surf yet still easy to paddle. Also really like the epoxy/carbon thread (not sure what they call the type of carbon cloth used) over a straight carbon board. Not as durable but feels smooth in the surf. Found the carbon boards much stiffer.

VIC

1737 posts

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cantSUPenough said..I don't suppose anyone is familiar with both the Sunova Acid and the new Prowave. The review and board look great but I am wondering how different they would be.

I have only surfed an acid 9'1" (?) a couple of times so not qualified to make a comparision. I have been surfing the 8'9" prowave consistently over the past month. Int rider 90kg. Surf points and local beach breaks. Like previous models, the prowave loves powerful waves..feels natural to be tight in the pocket and critical sections. However, surfs much better in small beach break than previous models imo. It feels much lighter under foot, way easier to paddle in and when you engage the rail, seems to move into auto pilot on fast radical turns. When you turn, hold on! I found the prowave way more stable than my limited time on the acid. Not as bullet proof as the acid so need to take care.

Thanks Fepsi!

Have you ridden a Hokua X32 by any chance? The Prowave looks like it has much thinner rails, so I guess there is no comparison, but I wondered about the rocker - the X32 used to plow through the water in smaller waves.

Yes - I had an 8'3" x32. I found this really fun in small waves up to head high...super easy to throw around as it was so light. Made every drop no matter how late. I found it very slow to paddle due to the width and lacked drive in juice. In comparison, the prowave is way faster to paddle and has great drive when it pumps - feels like it picks up speed when going from rail to rail. Rails are huge on the x32 - I tended to dishpan on that board. The rocker on the prowave feels spot on for me...excellent in the surf yet still easy to paddle. Also really like the epoxy/carbon thread (not sure what they call the type of carbon cloth used) over a straight carbon board. Not as durable but feels smooth in the surf. Found the carbon boards much stiffer.

Thanks, that's great information!

I have heard a few warnings about it durability. The X32 had issues; is this worse?

NSW

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cantSUPenough said..I don't suppose anyone is familiar with both the Sunova Acid and the new Prowave. The review and board look great but I am wondering how different they would be.

I have only surfed an acid 9'1" (?) a couple of times so not qualified to make a comparision. I have been surfing the 8'9" prowave consistently over the past month. Int rider 90kg. Surf points and local beach breaks. Like previous models, the prowave loves powerful waves..feels natural to be tight in the pocket and critical sections. However, surfs much better in small beach break than previous models imo. It feels much lighter under foot, way easier to paddle in and when you engage the rail, seems to move into auto pilot on fast radical turns. When you turn, hold on! I found the prowave way more stable than my limited time on the acid. Not as bullet proof as the acid so need to take care.

Thanks Fepsi!

Have you ridden a Hokua X32 by any chance? The Prowave looks like it has much thinner rails, so I guess there is no comparison, but I wondered about the rocker - the X32 used to plow through the water in smaller waves.

Yes - I had an 8'3" x32. I found this really fun in small waves up to head high...super easy to throw around as it was so light. Made every drop no matter how late. I found it very slow to paddle due to the width and lacked drive in juice. In comparison, the prowave is way faster to paddle and has great drive when it pumps - feels like it picks up speed when going from rail to rail. Rails are huge on the x32 - I tended to dishpan on that board. The rocker on the prowave feels spot on for me...excellent in the surf yet still easy to paddle. Also really like the epoxy/carbon thread (not sure what they call the type of carbon cloth used) over a straight carbon board. Not as durable but feels smooth in the surf. Found the carbon boards much stiffer.

Thanks, that's great information!

I have heard a few warnings about it durability. The X32 had issues; is this worse?

My x32 had a sunken deck where previous owner(s) stood. No probs with prowave in this way, but keep in mind it is a new board. I am guilty of the ol' knee paddling (both shoulders won't let me prone paddle anymore) so am putting through the paces. Just have to look after the epoxy boards - I always transport in boardbag, rail tape, etc. Highly recommend a demo. I am using my legs a lot more with the prowave, almost feels like my shortboard days!

NSW

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18 Jan 2019 4:00PM

Sorry guys. I've just seen this thread and generally comment on the Fanatic stuff. I rarely go on Sea Breeze anymore so haven't seen it.

There were a number of reasons for moving away from the PVC sandwich construction and most were customer and team driven. Firstly the cost of all boards are going through the roof price wise and there was lots of feedback for a slightly more affordable model. The new construction allows pricing to be more affordable.

Secondly, customers and team riders requested a board that was less chattery on bigger waves. Carbon Sandwich construction is stiffer and therefore becomes much bouncier in chop. A poly construction behaves more like a surfboard that doesn't bounce. When we moved away from sandwich construction we did increase the density of the core and the boards are extremely strong. Having said that. if the feeling of a poly board is required you move closer to poly durability.

To my knowledge the boards being sold are getting great reviews from a ride perspective and the durability is good.

Hope this helps.

As I said, I rarely check Sea Breeze anymore so if you have any questions you can always PM the Fanatic Sup Australia Face Book or Instagram pages.

NSW

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19 Jan 2019 10:14PM

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NNSUP said..Sorry guys. I've just seen this thread and generally comment on the Fanatic stuff. I rarely go on Sea Breeze anymore so haven't seen it.

There were a number of reasons for moving away from the PVC sandwich construction and most were customer and team driven. Firstly the cost of all boards are going through the roof price wise and there was lots of feedback for a slightly more affordable model. The new construction allows pricing to be more affordable.

Secondly, customers and team riders requested a board that was less chattery on bigger waves. Carbon Sandwich construction is stiffer and therefore becomes much bouncier in chop. A poly construction behaves more like a surfboard that doesn't bounce. When we moved away from sandwich construction we did increase the density of the core and the boards are extremely strong. Having said that. if the feeling of a poly board is required you move closer to poly durability.

To my knowledge the boards being sold are getting great reviews from a ride perspective and the durability is good.

Hope this helps.

As I said, I rarely check Sea Breeze anymore so if you have any questions you can always PM the Fanatic Sup Australia Face Book or Instagram pages.

Thanks for the update. Really enjoying my prowave! Love the feeling of the new construction on the wave and found it quite durable after a surfing nearly every day for the past 2 months