I had a ball python in college and loaded its terrarium and the rest of my belongings into the car for the summer as I headed back to my parents' house. Came back after lunch, ready to drive home, noticed the lid slightly off. Uh oh. Was disappointed, liked the hobby, but thought it had escaped and was somewhere on campus.Two weeks later, driving on I-25 near Denver, I look down and Sir Charles is hanging from the panel behind the glovebox.

thisisyourbrainonFark:I had a ball python in college and loaded its terrarium and the rest of my belongings into the car for the summer as I headed back to my parents' house. Came back after lunch, ready to drive home, noticed the lid slightly off. Uh oh. Was disappointed, liked the hobby, but thought it had escaped and was somewhere on campus.Two weeks later, driving on I-25 near Denver, I look down and Sir Charles is hanging from the panel behind the glovebox.

/csb

I drunkenly lost mine(8' boa)for about a week to my couch because I didn't lock her lid tight. I had rip open the couch to get her out.

Boa constrictors make excellent pets. Buy them young, play with them often, don't hand-feed them, and you'll have a hard time getting bitten. Their teeth are no big deal; I'd rather be bitten by a 10-foot boa than by a Chihuahua. They're more docile than pythons, but stronger pound for pound. I had a boa and a Burmese that got into a fight once and the boa kicked ass.

thisisyourbrainonFark:I had a ball python in college and loaded its terrarium and the rest of my belongings into the car for the summer as I headed back to my parents' house. Came back after lunch, ready to drive home, noticed the lid slightly off. Uh oh. Was disappointed, liked the hobby, but thought it had escaped and was somewhere on campus.Two weeks later, driving on I-25 near Denver, I look down and Sir Charles is hanging from the panel behind the glovebox.

/csb

I get to likely take my Kenyan sand boa with me when I visit my parents later in the month and I am totally afraid of that happening. He will be double-boxed, mostly because he'd be impossible to find if he escaped as he is the approximate diameter of an overweight pencil. He's a great ambassador for snakes at this size, though. Nobody is scared of him.

Also perplexing that they require a permit for more than one exotic pet. So if someone has a pair of cockatiels, they're in trouble, or are they just discriminating against things with scales? Strangely low limit either way.

Onyx Serpent:Also perplexing that they require a permit for more than one exotic pet. So if someone has a pair of cockatiels, they're in trouble, or are they just discriminating against things with scales? Strangely low limit either way.

IDK where that interpretation came from; the municipal code plainly states that even one exotic animal requires a permit.

8.12.120 Exotic animal permit.It is unlawful for any person to own or keep an exotic animal without a permit. Unless prohibited by zoning or other ordinances or laws, any person, over the age of 18 years of age, may obtain an exotic animal permit ...

If the snakes are deemed "dangerous animals" he will also need $1 million liability insurance, enough to blow up a small Texas town. Not clear if that's per animal or a blanket policy for all animals kept.

BarkingUnicorn:IDK where that interpretation came from; the municipal code plainly states that even one exotic animal requires a permit.

And further reading through, all birds are exempt. So go crazy buying parrots that would benefit far more by needing permits to make sure you know what you're getting in to due to their at times neurotic behavior and long lifespan, but nope, just reptiles need an intelligence test to own. I'd imagine that code isn't enforced all that often.

Also in there, I find it amusing that all lizards and venomous snakes are listed as "wild animals" along with constrictors over 10'. It appears to be mostly concerning rabies vaccinations, so the wording makes it sound like any snake under 10' can totally get vaccinated and is not a wild animal, but if they cross that threshold, they're magically "wild" again. I mean, they can't even get rabies. Maybe this dude can push for some legislation to edit the reptile rules there so they actually make sense.

Onyx Serpent:BarkingUnicorn: IDK where that interpretation came from; the municipal code plainly states that even one exotic animal requires a permit.

And further reading through, all birds are exempt. So go crazy buying parrots that would benefit far more by needing permits to make sure you know what you're getting in to due to their at times neurotic behavior and long lifespan, but nope, just reptiles need an intelligence test to own. I'd imagine that code isn't enforced all that often.

Also in there, I find it amusing that all lizards and venomous snakes are listed as "wild animals" along with constrictors over 10'. It appears to be mostly concerning rabies vaccinations, so the wording makes it sound like any snake under 10' can totally get vaccinated and is not a wild animal, but if they cross that threshold, they're magically "wild" again. I mean, they can't even get rabies. Maybe this dude can push for some legislation to edit the reptile rules there so they actually make sense.

Pretty good reason not to move to Utah though.

You'll find very similar ordinances almost everywhere. Many cities limit snakes to 6 feet. Some impose permit fees in the thousands.

Snake laws are possibly the only laws MORE stupid than dog breed laws. These tropical species, boas and pythons, can only survive on the southern half of Florida. Seriously, what the hell is the problem?

My dad is snake phobic so I have a bearded dragon. He travels with me when I'm working.

Resident Muslim:So guys who buy sports cars/SUVs are overcompensating...but college guys who buy 6' snakes of pure muscle and keep asking the scared girls to go ahead and feel how smooth it is...are not?!

I used to walk my ferret in the park and ask girls if they'd like to stroke my long, brown, furry thing.

BarkingUnicorn:Resident Muslim: So guys who buy sports cars/SUVs are overcompensating...but college guys who buy 6' snakes of pure muscle and keep asking the scared girls to go ahead and feel how smooth it is...are not?!

I used to walk my ferret in the park and ask girls if they'd like to stroke my long, brown, furry thing.

I've heard that ferrets are fine as pets...as long as you remove the glands so that they don't stink.

Resident Muslim:BarkingUnicorn: Resident Muslim: So guys who buy sports cars/SUVs are overcompensating...but college guys who buy 6' snakes of pure muscle and keep asking the scared girls to go ahead and feel how smooth it is...are not?!

I used to walk my ferret in the park and ask girls if they'd like to stroke my long, brown, furry thing.

I've heard that ferrets are fine as pets...as long as you remove the glands so that they don't stink.

They have needle claws and teeth with which they are not particularly careful. The albino I had was a murderous mutherfarker who bit a cop. I thought we were all going to die that day. They are crepuscular, preferring to sleep 14-18 hours a day and be active only at dusk and dawn. They love to cache food under furniture and shiat in corners after tearing up carpet.