Clash of the Titans (Fetzer vs. Tarpley)

In fact, quite a few 9/11 truthers wouldn’t put either Webster OR Jim in their “favorite people” category.

Why not? Well, both are brash, egotistical geniuses. Each has complete confidence in his own analysis. Neither suffers fools gladly.

Both are brilliant scholars AND first-rate extemporaneous speakers, a rare combination. Both have that aggressive speechifying style that is so rhetorically effective – far more effective than the more tentative styles of “careful” folks like David Ray Griffin and Richard Gage. (Even dimwits like Hannity and O’Reilly and Limbaugh can be rhetorically effective with an aggressive style; while even geniuses like Noam Chomsky can be less than effective by being more passive-aggressive than just-plain-aggressive.)

I also like both guys personally. They’re uncommonly principled lovers of truth and justice.

Watching them fight it out at the Vancouver 9/11 Hearings was quite a sight. Was it heroic or tragicomic? I couldn’t quite decide, so I penned the following ode to Jim and Webster.

Clash of the Titans

Like demigods on old OlympusTarpley and Fetzer met,Each one to cast his ownTitanic 9/11 netAround fish-schools of factsAnd draw them tight back to their boats.And as they cast those nets, both TitansWere sure feeling their oats.

First Fetzer cast his net – its breadthWas breathtakingly wide.The holograms and Zionists it caughtWere laid out side by side.

Then Tarpley cast his massive netAnd caught 46 drillsAs well as cures and palliativesFor all the world’s ills.

“The coup, you see, was made in USA”The Web-ster said.“If you keep blaming ZionistsThis movement will soon be dead.”

“The truth is all that matters,”Was Jim Fetzer’s proud reply.“If you keep playing politicsYou’ll end up in a lie.”

Some in the crowd sided with Jim,Which drove the Web-ster wild:“Blaming the foreigner,” he sneered“Is the politics of a child.”

“It aligns you with the Jew-haters,Obscurantists, and hacks,And loads a hopeless burdenOn our poor truth-seeking backs.”

“But look at all the evidence!”Was Jim’s forceful reply.“The clues that point at ZionistsAre piled up to the sky!

“PeeNACkers and neocons,Dancing Israelis too,Odigo, Zim, and UMS: The suspects, sad to say, are Jews.

6 Thoughts to “Clash of the Titans (Fetzer vs. Tarpley)”

I would like to say that the argument is solely semantics, and that Webster is merely taking a wider glance, but I am afraid there is too much consistency in Webster's inability to address Israel culpability that I question if he is sponsored by some derivative interest group.

To his credit, however, Webster is one of the only person who argues publicly for an empowered perspective on the true identity and role of governent. Too many people have assumed that to question conspiracy and intel agency tomfoolery means to adopt a libertarian perspective, and there is a surprisingly narrow view of what government is, and one that also plays into the hands of rich elites.

If it comes down to a shouting match between an Alex Jones faux-fascism and Tarpley socialism, please give me the socialism and let's get on with a humane civilization please.

On the other hand, there is some merit that the evil among us in politics are using the bureaucratic monster of government to immobilize the citizen polity, and that we may need to de-fund the government.

My final conclusion is that of all the truthers in this tiny world, none is finer than the philsopher/scientist Jim Fetzer, because he passes the various litmus tests of truth, and he seems to actually keep an open mind as various developments are uncovered.

That can't be said about a certain Truth Jihad radio superstar that somehow can't wrap his head around the video faker issues, or the fictional 3,000 people that he claims died in almost every show of his.

When you get the elephant in the room — that they did not butcher 3,000 — we can all move on and tackle the issue as a society. Give September Clues a bit more credit for being way ahead of their time on this issue, regardless of whether you are ready to go as far as they do with fakery issues.

I would rather there be consensus on the fake hijackings and lack of planes than to bear another fifty years of bullshit, JFK-style research that re-prosecutes the given fact of demolition, blah blah blah. It was a nuke; a scalar weapon; it was a…. hey, look, the bad guys have already grown old and lived wonderful, peaceful, long lives! What happened? How many rifles in Dealey Plaza again?

That was delightful Kevin!!I've been following all of this over at TruthandShadows. Your humor and huge heart along with a strong intellect help to keep us all afloat in our passionate insistence for the real truth of September 11, 2001. Thankyou!!!

It doesn’t matter where 9/11 was made; Israel is a transnational gangster empire that is just as much at home in the U.S. as Occupied Palestine. The “Made in the U.S.” label is misleading and useless since by the time 9/11 happened the U.S. no longer existed as an independent country.-Greg Felton

Mr. Tarpley and Mr. Fetzer are two of my favorite people as well. Maybe we should recognize that Zionism (a political ideology) and Judaism (a religion)are not synonymous. Many non Jewish people align themselves with the Zionist movement, while many Jewish people are opposed to Zionism. I believe the "anti-semite" label is tossed out by the banking elite (Rothschilds eg, who are actually Luciferian) to demonize the critics who expose them and their agenda, using organizations such as the ADL and SPLC to silence them. I am technically Jewish, although I am non-practicing, and I am convinced that Zionism was very involved in 9/11-as well as the continuing wars,economic manipulation, and widespread suffering across the globe. And there's much more to come if they're not stopped. I enjoyed the Tarpley/Fetzer poem very much.