I found the following in the Firefox release notes. I am now running Puppy from a frugal install. Can I cure this problem by making some files in the sfs writeable?

I think the .sfs in operation is read-only, however after creating a pup_save.2fs file when prompted at first boot shut down you now have a new layer (/initrd/pup_rw) that is writable. Thus changes to the file system are saved to the writable layer and with few exceptions the changes should be saved on reboot. The only exceptions I can think of are logged each shutdown at /var/log/unionfs/pup_dip_removed.log

The exact source of the Firefox update problem you are experiencing and the conditions under which it occurs still eludes me. I haven't been able to reproduce it as yet. I wonder if there is something simple here we are overlooking?

If desired you can copy all files from the CD-Rom to a new folder on a writable drive, use Edit-SFS on pup_215.sfs, Geany on boot.msg, pup_215.sfs.md5 and then ISOmaster to combine it with the other files on the original ISO; or alternatively use Dougal's remaster, or other remastering tools to create a new custom ISO or puppy derivative. The advantage of this method is your customizations/updates would be available on first boot (liveCD mode.) This is how LighthousePup was built.
-TazOC_________________lhpup.orgLighthouse 64 6.02

Actually, in the case of Firefox, probably editing pup_215.sfs wouldn't be the best method because it doesn't have Firefox in it. FF is in the Mariner add-on, lhp-mar-02_215.sfs. So you could use Edit-SFS on the Mariner SFS to update or remove Firefox possibly, instead of making a new ISO. These changes would appear as soon as your new/replacement add-on SFS is loaded, generally on rebooting with a pup_save file. Reboot in LiveCD mode first to move the old one to another folder or add a suffix like 'lhp-mar-02_215.sfs_save' to disable it.
-TazOC_________________lhpup.orgLighthouse 64 6.02

I'm gonna sound really thick here but , how do you reboot (or close) Lighthouse Puppy? I couldn't find an entry for anything other than restarting Xservers and no desktop icon for closing down!
I've used various Puppies for over a year so I'm not a total newbie
Many thanks
Tony

Although K3b works fine for audio CDs, today for the first time I tried to do a mixed format CD and it indicated it could not find mkisofs but I did a search in pfind and found that mkisofs is setting right in /usr/bin, a directory K3b is supposed to be searching in according to its settings. Is it looking for a different version of mkisofs and refusing to see the version installed?

I'm gonna sound really thick here but , how do you reboot (or close) Lighthouse Puppy? I couldn't find an entry for anything other than restarting Xservers and no desktop icon for closing down!
I've used various Puppies for over a year so I'm not a total newbie
Many thanks
Tony

Select Logoff from the menu which comes up when you click the lighthouse icon on the left bottom of your screen (where the start button is in windows). A menu will come up which allows you to select to poweroff or reboot.

veronicathecow, Ditto what melmc wrote, try Logoff in your Menu. If you're at the keyboard you can also use Clrl+Alt+Del or Ctrl+Alt+BackSpace. In the latter case, (generally a last resort because it's more likely to close open apps without saving your work,) you'll need to type reboot or poweroff.

melmc wrote:

Although K3b works fine for audio CDs, today for the first time I tried to do a mixed format CD and it indicated it could not find mkisofs but I did a search in pfind and found that mkisofs is setting right in /usr/bin, a directory K3b is supposed to be searching in according to its settings. Is it looking for a different version of mkisofs and refusing to see the version installed?

I've been trying to figure that out. K3b does not recognize mkisofs or genisoimage in pgs_K3b-12.17-02_215.sfs although 'which' command does see them. I was able to burn ISOs created outside of K3b. I'm looking for a solution to this and maybe readcd and transcode also.
-TazOC_________________lhpup.orgLighthouse 64 6.02

Okay I must be really really thick, heres a screenshot I've been staring at for 15 minutes now!
Hi Tazoc, thanks for tips, I escaped closing the Xserver etc Tried restarting X and the JWM and IceWm..... Strange huh?
Thanks

I've been testing LIghthousePup on and off over the last few day. I am clearly impressed. Given my father in law's win2k system (which was setup with what appears to be a hacked version of windows, hence it can't be saved) crashed, I wanted to try to get him to consider Linux. I like what I've seen with LighthousePup, and I think it will meet his basic needs perfectly. If it seems he needs anything more, I can always set that up for him until he becomes more comfortable using Linux and doing things himself. Lighthouse looks great. Bravo Zulu on a job well done._________________The only windows I have are those on my home.

Thank you Christopher, I appreciate that. I really feel Linux is better, faster, more secure and more efficient than other systems. It does have some shortcomings; hard core gaming, voice recognition and certain companies seem unwilling to release Linux-compatible software or drivers--yet fully support other systems.

But look at the incredible depth and variety of distros and liveCDs available, most at no cost to download. On the other end of the scale, NASA and the Dept of Defense look to www.linuxnetworx.com for supercomputing. Myself sometimes I feel like I'm really contributing to Puppy and Lighthouse and sometimes it's like I'm just grinding out the details or busy with other responsibilities or projects. It has to be fun most of the time or we wouldn't be doing this.

Bottom line, I think everyone is different and Linux is a better fit for some than for others. And of course Puppy rocks!
Regards, TazOC_________________lhpup.orgLighthouse 64 6.02

Hi Tazoc, many thanks for this Puppy you have obviously put a huge amount of work into it to make it much more user friendly. The menu problem has been sorted thanks to the tip re menus
I've been playing with this and 2.20 both are excellent and a combination will probably bring me back from PC Linux (Very good but slow)
I hope you will do a version based on 2.20 with Firefox, Thunderbird , K3B and Openoffice. That would really cover all my needs.
To anyone who has not tried this version I cannot recommend it enough!
Many thanks
Tony

Tony,
Glad to hear your menu is okay now Tony. I'm including a fix in beta 5 that will make sure that Logoff entry is there and if not, the fixmenus script gets executed at logon.

I'm also testing Puppy 2.20 alpha. Can't get my eth0 connection to work on it yet, but am eager to test it with K3b and hopefully Lighthouse at some point. Thank you for your comments!
-TazOC_________________lhpup.orgLighthouse 64 6.02

LighthousePup has become my new favorite Puppy. I was impressed when I saw StreamTuner with XMMS.
I boot from CD but have installed Mariner and K3B SFS and the work fine also Wine 0.0.28 SFS Im still workin on that. DOFUS and Foxit reader installed easly and quickly.
Cant wait for the next version

TazOC: Please see my post 'Congrats' in this section (Puppy Derivatives) of the forum. I mistakenly posted it as a new topic instead of a reply here as I intended. Hopefully one of our moderators can move it here where it belongs! _________________Welcome to my weird, wild, wonderful, wired world!

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