I don't know a lot of fighters seem to be moving towards free-to-play now, at least as an option. And it kind of makes sense. At their core they are multiplayer games that depend on having an active community and it's a good way to attract new players. And they're constantly getting updates and new characters and stuff anyway, so it's a more natural way to deliver things than having hyper tubo mega deluxe versions, etc.

Heck, playing these sorts of games in the arcade was the original nickel and diming ;)

Yeah, I think fighting games are one genre I might actually not hate to see go free-to-play. Now if you try to do that to my single-player RPGs, on the other hand, I will stab you.

Not that I care about Killer Instinct anyway because the game looks like trash and it's on the Xbone.

Asia too boring? They don't have an equally long and interesting history as the West no sirree it's all Samurai and uh, Emperors over there. Seriously, that is bullshit. You have Zheng He and the treasure fleets which gives access to all of Indo-China. You have England meeting China or America opening up Japan with the Blackships which has that West meets East thing. And then you'd still have ships and it could be about the Assassin's trying to establish connections in Japan since the East is mostly Templar. You have the Boxer rebellion with interesting politicking going on. You have Japans invasion of Korea. You could have the other important artifacts that they seem to have forgot about and set it earlier than the first AC and then you have access to anything. Well that was a rant, but yeah I asked for the French Revolution when I heard AC3 was going to be further in the future than the others. It is much more interesting than the American Revolution. Plus they ruined their chance to have the Battle of Montreal in AC3 so clearly they don't care.

Well looks like they thought at least japan was too boring.Also saw people suggesting it could've had martial arts, but Ubi would probably claim it'd be too much effort to get an expert on at least one fighting style and animate it.

And then also Russia seems to be a pretty popular one that people want.

To be fair, a better way of looking at it is with the question of where would Knight Templars be all up in (although China did have the Silk Road and would've been a possible place for Templar activity)? Granted, it probably would've been better if they had at least focused on stuff like the raiding of Spanish treasure ships by English Privateers such as Sir Nathan Francis Drake or picking off Spanish Conquistadors instead of Pirates of the Caribbean (like that hasn't been done to death already).

But yes something like the Russian Revolution, the English conquest of India, or something like the Boar Wars would've also have made for an entertaining setting.

Apparently the PS4 camera is not included and costs $59. I guess that's part of the reason they were able to hit that $399 price point. Oh well, still cheaper than the Xbox One even with the camera and this way if you don't want it...you don't have to get it.

The funny thing is they haven't shown off a single game that actually uses it yet...

This is perfect for me. I have no desire for the camera. And if I do end up with a game where it'd be useful enough, I'll shell out the money and get it, then only plug it in long enough to play that game. But I see that as a pretty remote possibility at this point.

Apparently the PS4 camera is not included and costs $59. I guess that's part of the reason they were able to hit that $399 price point. Oh well, still cheaper than the Xbox One even with the camera and this way if you don't want it...you don't have to get it.

The funny thing is they haven't shown off a single game that actually uses it yet...

This is perfect for me. I have no desire for the camera. And if I do end up with a game where it'd be useful enough, I'll shell out the money and get it, then only plug it in long enough to play that game. But I see that as a pretty remote possibility at this point.

Same here. I like being given the option of having it, as opposed to being forced to buy it with the console itself, especially if it means the console will cost more.

Apparently the PS4 camera is not included and costs $59. I guess that's part of the reason they were able to hit that $399 price point. Oh well, still cheaper than the Xbox One even with the camera and this way if you don't want it...you don't have to get it.

The funny thing is they haven't shown off a single game that actually uses it yet...

This is perfect for me. I have no desire for the camera. And if I do end up with a game where it'd be useful enough, I'll shell out the money and get it, then only plug it in long enough to play that game. But I see that as a pretty remote possibility at this point.

Same here. I like being given the option of having it, as opposed to being forced to buy it with the console itself, especially if it means the console will cost more.

Thirded.

On a different topic. I've mostly stayed out of this console war hot topic right now. The PS4 looks great, and will definitely be my console next gen. I've no interest in the Orwellian nightmare that is Xbox One, but, who are people trying to fool by saying it is going to flop? It'll do just fine, I'm sure, riding on the backs of kids and people who may as well call the Xbox their Halo machine.

The difference is, Mr. Mongoose, XBox hasn't really had to rely purely on that crowd in the past, and it's starting to sound like this is going to be the scenario this generation. That and people who have to have everything, but even some of those people (AND some of the hardcore XBox fans) are starting to lookl towards the PS4.

Bayonetta 2. Now with less hair. Hey I thought Nintendo was against that kind of thing?

Big Red X. Continues to impress. I just wish it didn't look so Monster Hunter-ish.

SSBU/3DS. 3DS version doesn't look too bad, WiiU version obviously looks a hell of a lot better though. Hey look the Animal Crossing guy got in finally. And of course Samus is sporting her Other M look, fuck. And hey wait....MOTHERFUCKER!!! They finally included Megaman! Now we know why he wasn't included in Marvel vs Capco....wait? Is that IT!? WTF!?! Goddammit Nintendo!!! :doom:

Edit: And I couldn't see this during the live broadcast due to the rampant technical difficulties but....Pokemon X & Y. Now with a new Fairy Type to stick it to Dragons (and maybe make Jigglypuff/Marill suck a little bit less). The new Eeveeolution will be of that type.

Bayonetta 2. Now with less hair. Hey I thought Nintendo was against that kind of thing?

Big Red X. Continues to impress. I just wish it didn't look so Monster Hunter-ish.

SSBU/3DS. 3DS version doesn't look too bad, WiiU version obviously looks a hell of a lot better though. Hey look the Animal Crossing guy got in finally. And of course Samus is sporting her Other M look, fuck. And hey wait....MOTHERFUCKER!!! They finally included Megaman! Now we know why he wasn't included in Marvel vs Capco....wait? Is that IT!? WTF!?! Goddammit Nintendo!!! :doom:

Super Mario: More shit, new day. Really don't think we need another game for the already saturated Mario-market. If it's good, awesome, but unlikely a sale from me.

Dislike the new Bayonetta look...she looks more like the red-wearing girl (Jean?), but if the game is good....

Mario Kart Wii was a fucking nightmare to play with all the crap flying at you. I'm done with it.

And yeah. 3DS Smash shows an unnecessary black cel-shade border around characters. Blegh. The WiiU one looks great though, I'll probably grab that. I love the crazies for Megaman in the game, no one was this psyched for Tatsunoko or MvsC. But ah well, cool beans. Looking forward to the other additions. Brawl was amazing for just filling that game to the RIM with awesome features.

The difference is, Mr. Mongoose, XBox hasn't really had to rely purely on that crowd in the past, and it's starting to sound like this is going to be the scenario this generation. That and people who have to have everything, but even some of those people (AND some of the hardcore XBox fans) are starting to lookl towards the PS4.