Nissan Leaf Visia gets a 30 kWh battery in Norway

After Portugal, Spain and the USA, it’s Norway’s time to get the entry level Nissan Leaf (Visia) with the 30 kWh battery.

The 24 kWh battery it’s still an option, but it’s soon to be discontinued since the 2017 Nissan Leaf is about to be announced with a 30 kWh battery for the entry level, while the highest trims get 41-42 kWh.

There was an expectation to see if Nissan would take this opportunity to start using LG Chem battery cells, but the information I have now is that the 2017 Nissan Leaf will continue with AESC cells and without TMS (Thermal Management System). The new battery pack is already being built at Nissan’s battery plant in Sunderland, UK. According to Nissan the new generation battery pack will also be available in the Nissan e-NV200 electric van.

So if you want a Nissan electric car with TMS and LG Chem battery cells, you’ll probably want to wait for the Nissan Micra EV that will share many components with the Renault Zoe and will be built at the same Renault plant in Flins, France.

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Truth to be told the bigger capacity allows the battery to be discharge at lower C rate and generate less heat. Not having a TMS will be less worrying than it’s now. At least if the electric motor continues to be the same. Nissan could surprise us with a more powerful motor and faster DC charging, but it’s very unlikely.

What do you think? Will Nissan Leaf’s lower price allows it to sell relatively well even without a TMS?

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I think your comment about generating less heat because of the lower C rate is wrong. As we know, the main source of heat in an electric system is Joule’s Law (RI^2), so even if the C rate is lower, the current (I) is the same, thus producing the same heat as before.
However, because C rate is one of the main factors of battery aging (the other ones being temperature and DOD), I still think this new battery will perform better in terms of degradation than the previous battery.

Well, if the cells in the e-golf and in the GTE are exactly the same, the number of cells in the GTE has to be much lower! In that case, the current per cell is much higher in the GTE (less cells) and it will generate more heat (again Joule effect).

In the case of the Leaf, that I think has the same number of cells for the 24 and 30 kWh batteries, the current per cell will be exactly the same, even if the C rate is lower. So, in this case, the generated heat will be the same.

The cells should be from LG
“Outside of the leaked info insideEVs has, I have some more info. Pack is from LG Chem. Cell format is the same as Nissan will be using for the new Leaf that’s due on the road in January (not the 2nd gen yet!)”https://www.boards.ie/b/thread/2057653162?