Hi , my first time posting here . Just a bit of background my first was concieved by accident and is joy of my life . After I gave birth I had to have a d&c 4 weeks later for retained products . My periods didnt return for over 6 months after I had her and I didn't breast feed . Since then I have had periods that are extremely light lasting mayb 2 days with light flow . I was worried and asked for a referral which my gp refused . When I started ttc number 2 I got pregnant first try again but this ended in mc . It was a strange mc in that nothing was ever seen on ultrasound not even gest sac but my hcg was increasing and this went on bening in limbo for 3 weeks and then they taught that it was a molar pregnancy and had no have d&c . It didn't end up being a molar pregnancy after testing . The only thing I was told was all they found during the d&c was scanty ( not much of anything which is odd for 7 weeks ) . After second d & c which was start of May my periods have gotten lighter again lasting some only a day or 1/2 a day with. I flow just spotting . The last 2 months they are shortening from an always 28 day to 26 days on my last period . We have been ttc for last 3 months with no luck and I don't know what to think . My gp has refused to refer me to anybody . In my head i just keep thinking I can't conceive the way my periods are and if I did I would Prob have a mc again cause I would not have a proper lining judging by what sort of periods im having . Sorry for such a long post . If anyone has an experience of something similar or advice it would be appreciated . I'm feeling so down about ttc and knowing in my head it Prob won't happen or I won't keep a pregnsncy .

I'm sorry your friend had that experience it really is shocking . I remember an occupation health doc said to me soon after my mc that his wife had suffered a mc and that mc and especially early mc is really a lonely grief , most times not many people u would have told early on and the treatment of it really lets u off to deal with it yourself, no aftercare . Thank you , I really hope I do too but I just feel it's not going to happen itself or that I'm at risk of another mc . I wish u the best on your journey too . Secondary I ferrility def isn't recognized and understood enough . It is so hard seeing your little one growing up and wanting a sibling for them . I find it pretty distracting from life cause it's on my mind a lot and it's getting to me and I feel kinda guilty that coming to end of my cycle each month I feel so down about it when af comes and it's getting harder each month . I also do think about the mc thinking oh I skould be this many months pregnant but that's not really the best thing to be thinking .

So sorry to hear about how they treated you during the mc. That's awful. A different friend had same experience 3 weeks of unknowns then just sent home to mc with no support. Terrifying ordeal. Hopefully you will get it all sorted and get your bfp soon. I have secondary infertility too its hard waiting for the little brother or sister to come along as ds is growing up so fast

Thanks for your reply and understanding I appreciate it , Oh I don't blame you for ranting it is disgraceful how things are treated here . After I had the mc I was so upset at the treatment from the maternity and the gp , the mc I could accept in slot of ways I know it's common , I said I would never try again because of the experienced I had . It's a long story what happened but it went on for 3 weeks , I was told completly different things each time by different doctors / nurses at early preg unit when I was called back for scans / bloods and I was actually told my a nurse then 'oh the doc is too busy to see you but wants to book you in now to be admitted for a d&c' , before I was told I was actually mis carrying . I just walked out that day I was infuriated . I Can handle a lot but that was just way too far for me. I def will be looking into my options now and trying to put some money together . I will def look into Napro I have seen good things about it here .

It's outrageous how women's health is treated so badly in this country we have to scream to be taken seriously id be so mad if i was you and id complain about your doc to "have your say" hse. Imagine if something serious was causing the problem? It's just not good enough. Sorry for rant but friends of mine had 2 mcs her go would not refer her for further testing with gyme and wouldn't even prescribe progesterone which cold have prevented another mc. They don't care about the emotional pain mc causes. So sorry you got this treatment. If I was you I'd go straight to napro they are very good at finding cause of problems with cycle and fixing it. It's not ivf just hormone diet and lifestyle treatment for fertility to aid conception . Not that expensive either hope you get someone to listen to you because you know your body best. Sorry again for the rant

I had this too after the birth of my daughter - also my ovulation date changed to day 10/11. I found acupuncture useful to restore my cycles somewhat (though still only a 4 day period including spotting) and am no 35 weeks pregnant with no. 2 - good luck! I used an accupuncturist affiliated with the Zita west approach.

Callah15 - thanks for your reply it is very frustrating when you know yourself something isn't right but the doctors don't take much notice .while going to maternity during time of my mc they told me my periods were abnormal to be that light but no talk of doing anything . I don't even need to use anything at this stage they are so light . I will keep ye updated and I hope you get to the bottom of things too .

Rollsroyce - I don't actually live anywhere near dub . What I did do was book a gyne appointment its about 6 weeks away but I do need a referral . I was told my them to just ring up gp near the time and say ur not happy you have an appointment booked and u want the referral . So that's what I'll do . I just want to get to bottom of it . I feel the time coming closer to when I would have been due from the mc and in my head I wanted to be pregnant before then and realizing now that won't happen .

It might be worth having a consultation with a fertility clinic - you just make an appointment yourself and don't need a gp referral. (In Dublin you could try Repromed or Sims).

They won't send you straight for IVF or anything but can advise and test you straight away and then if any problems show up they will offer further treatment options. At least get some tests so you know what you are dealing with.

Mama86 I've been having the same problem for the past few months. My gp tested my bloods and when they came back normal I was told "maybe your cycles are this way now". My heavy flow days have reduced from 4 to 2 and even the heaviest flow is not as heavy as it used to be. After the heavier days I get a couple of days spotting, but I don't even go through one pack of pads/af when in the past I would use 2. I went to a different gp and he referred me for an ultrasound. Got that done and found out that my ovaries and uterine lining are fine. They found one thing that they weren't looking for and said that I'm at higher risk of late mc but that it wouldn't affect my chances of getting pg. This is our 7th month trying and I'm not feeling like it's going to happen this month either. I'm convinced the reason I'm not pg yet is associated with shortened af but I'm getting a feeling that doctors don't want to believe me. I got pg once by accident but unfortunately we lost the baby. I'm sorry I'm not giving you any answers. Just wanted to let you know what I've done so far. I'd be interested in hearing if you manage to figure out what's going on with your cycles. Oh and my cycles used to be 28 days long and now they're around 25-26 days. Good luck in your ttc journey!

Thanks for ye're replies I am going to look into a new gp. My gp is actually out for the last year and she is brilliant so its the 2nd gp Ive been attending so I'm going she will come back soon so that's why I havnt left .

I have signs of Ov early enough in my cycle and I used the cb dig and got just a solid smiley at day 9 or 10 . I will possibly use them again this month . I'm not worried about my cycle length changing by few days but my periods lasting so short and there is no flow really it's like spotting it's so light that I think they really can't be proper periods .

Firstly sorry to hear about your mc. 28 days is average length for a womans cycle, some women can vary from a day or two below or over that. What you really would want to know is how long is your lp(luteal phase), As long as it 10 days or longer you should have no issues conceiving.