The National Pastime, as Captured by the National Magazine

By Paul Lukas, on November 25th, 2008

Time to continue our look through the Life photo archives, this time focusing exclusively on baseball. Just like last time, I’m linking to smaller versions of the pics so you can see the captions, but you should click on each photo to see the larger versions. Let’s get started:

• So many great details to savor in this shot: The thin, graceful lettering, the texture of the various fabrics, the stitching on the seams, the way the pinstripes on the collar placket don’t match up with the pinstripes on the body (this was intentional, to give the placket its own visual identity), the top button of the undershirt peeking out, etc. Gorgeous.

• Good view here of the memorial left-armhole band that the Reds wore in 1961 for owner Powel Crosley. Instead of removing it the following year, they simply added a corresponding band to the other side.

• Speaking of the Reds, it’s always good to see more shots of Big Klu in action.

• Look at Frank Robinson’s left stirrup in the lower-right corner of this 1961 shot. Looks like he was already adding fabric to his stirrups at that early date (as he clearly did later on with the Orioles).

• Not sure what I like best about this shot — the cigarette, the pay phone in the background, the unbuckled belt, or the fact that this is how Birdie Tebbetts spent his time between games of a twinbill.

That’ll do for now. My thanks to the many of you who contributed photos to the foregoing list.

Signal Flare: Dave Graf, I’ve been trying to contact you for weeks, because I have a question about your membership order. Can you please get in touch? Thanks.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Shame on me for not including lots of NHL news from the weekend in yesterday’s Ticker. First, the Canadiens retired Patrick Roy’s number, so they wore a commemorative patch and, interestingly, didn’t wear the centennial and all-star patches they’ve been wearing all season. ”¦ Meanwhile, the Leafs honored Wendel Clark, so they did the pregame thing where everyone dressed up as him and then throwbacks with a special patch during the game. ”¦ In addition, the Coyotes have unveiled their alternates (additional info here, and here’s a closer look at the shoulder patch), the Kings’ alts have made their on-ice debut, and the Sharks have sold their soul to Seagate ®, which definitely qualifies as the douchebag move of the week. ”¦ Here’s a nice view of Walt Tkachuk’s jawguard (with thanks to Alex Shuman). ”¦ Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: LSU celebrated the 50th anniversary of their 1958 national championship team by wearing a jersey patch. ”¦ Some guy on eBay is selling two jerseys that he claims were worn by the Steagles (look here and here). Personally, I’m skeptical — no numbers on the back, for starters — but they’re still interesting (with thanks to Jason Bernard). ”¦ Scott Johnson was looking through the West Virginia Division of Culture & History State Archives and came up with two interesting shots of the WV State hoops team. This one is circa 1940, and this one‘s from 1948 — sleeves! ”¦ Forgot to mention yesterday that Washington State wore special helmets for the Apple Cup. ”¦ The Maui Invitational is currently underway in Hawaii, and here’s some news from Jay Bilas’s ESPN Insider blog (brought to my attention by Doug Simpson): “Oregon expects to be the best-dressed team at the Maui Invitational. The Ducks will be wearing specially made shoes by Nike with Hawaiian print, and the Hawaiian print will also be on the [yellow] trim of the Oregon uniforms. Also wearing the Hawaiian floral print shoes will be Saint Joseph’s, Texas and Alabama.” Apparently the coaches are going Hawaiian as well. ”¦ Video report on Jose Theodore’s new mask here (with thanks to John Muir). ”¦ Very nice old baseball uni available here. ”¦ Lots of good finds by Andy Chalifour: Moises Alou as a Pirate (he played only two games for them), Jim Abbot batting, and Jeff Reardon without a beard. ”¦ The Bruins third jersey schedule is available here (with thanks to Matt Porter). ”¦ Everyone knows about the U.S. Library of Congress’s photo archive. What you might not know about is that there’s a rough Canadian equivalent. Zac Neubauer was poking around there the other day and turned up some interesting stuff, including the South Alberta Regiment baseball team, circa 1943; the No. 1 Canadian Corps Ordnance Depot baseball team (which was playing the team of the 101st Squadron, United States Army Air Forces, in Godalming, England, on June 14th, 1945), and a women’s baseball game between the “Eager Beavers” — yes, that’s what the caption says — and officers of the Regina Rifle Regiment (in the Netherlands, August 31st, 1945). ”¦ Also from Zac: Great vintage ad archive here. ”¦ If you look at the first and third questions on this Q&A page, you’ll see that uni changes appear to be afoot for UNC’s 100th anniversary next year (courtesy of Chris Warfford). ”¦ “Corinthians, in Brazil’s second division of soccer, had a special promotion to put the pictures of fans on their uniform for the final game of the season,” reports Jeremy Brahm. “Each picture is 3cm x 4cm, and the fans had to pay 1,000 reais, or $410, for the privilege.” ”¦ The Twins unveiled their throwback alternates and stadium-farewell patch (which we first saw a few months ago) yesterday. The good news: NNOB. The bad news: The jersey is a button-front instead of a pullover, and they’re wearing it with belted pants, not elastic waistbands. Video coverage here, additional details here, and more photos here). ”¦ Wondering if Citi and other corporate parasites might free up a bit of cash by relinquishing their sports sponsorships? Fuhgeddaboudit. ”¦ Good video on the history behind the Cardinals’ team name and logo here. ”¦ Several readers noted that Ed Hochuli was wearing a head linesman’s jersey with No. 28 on Sunday, instead of his usual ref’s No. 85. Haven’t heard the story behind it, but I assume his luggage was lost. ”¦ Interesting NOB tidbit here (with thanks to John Wilmott). ”¦ Prentice James sent along some old Johnson C. Smith pics, including this awesome cheerleading shot and a basketball photo that shows JCSU palying against a sleeved Virginia Union team. ”¦ Ugliest uniform ever? Marc Walls thinks so. That’s Austin East High in Knoxville. Lots of additional pics here. ”¦ Lance Moore was wearing one eye-black sticker last night (screen grab courtesy of Chris Cocuzza). ”¦ Ace sports photographer Neil Leiffer has a new book out, and there’s an excellent slideshow of images here, plus a really nice video interview here (thanks to Steve Johnston). ”¦ Remember Marty Hick, whose amazing uniform drawings I wrote about more than a year ago? He recently got hitched (to a gal who appears to be a real dish) — congrats! “Holly recently turned 32,” he writes. “I made her a Jim Brown cake. I ain’t gonna lie: It was gorgeous! I am unable to articulate the thought and effort I put into this project. I just hope you like the pictures.” Looks like someone else liked it too. ”¦ Reprinted from last night’s comments: What would we do without John Daly? ”¦ Hey, the Pirates signed Derek Bell, and he couldn’t play baseball, so why not? ”¦ Adidas is now selling a branded sunscreen that comes out of the can in, of course, three stripes. No, really (disturbing find by Stu Taylor). … You never see Cleveland Browns personnel wearing anything emblazoned with a “C,” but check out this 1971 shot of Browns coach Nick Skorich. As JC Helf points out, the C appears to be very similar to this.

I’m not sure if this was mentioned in yesterday comments, but the Kitchener Rangers retired Al McInnis’ number on the weekend as well and wore his number on the front of their jerseys, left side. I don’t have any pictures, but it looked dumb on the assistant captians

That screen out in right field was probably to protect pitchers and catchers in the bullpen, not the fans. It looks like the fans are sitting in front of it and a Pirate is standing behind it. Unless that is the right fielder playing a ridiculous opposite field defensive shift, it must be a pitcher in the pen.

mRoy|
November 25, 2008 at 9:15 am |

Hey everybody,

Anybody else notice that last night, the Saints were wearing three shades of gold? Their helmet, the numbers and the collar on the jersey. The helmet was the lightest shade, the collar almost looked mustard and the numbers were somewhere in between.

Have they always had trouble matching the gold on their black jerseys? Anybody have a pick about it? Thanks.

Regarding Mizzou wearing all-gold for the game this Saturday vs. kansas:

From The Columbia Tribune blog of last night’s Tiger Talk:
On less serious note, Pinkel answered a question delivered via email about possible gold jerseys for the Kansas game. Either he’s a brilliant bluffer or those gold jerseys aren’t going to see the light of day: “How about gold shoes? Or gold socks? Or maybe gold hip pads,” he joked. “No, I would not be looking for any gold.”

Maybe Nike is trying to push them through for next season? Maybe it was just an elaborate hoax?

And, yes, it is a Cub Scout/Boy Scout neckerchief on The Man’s neck at his retirement. I can’t remember the exact story right now, but I’m pretty sure he was given it as a retirement gift from the local Boy Scout chapter during the ceremony.

I wonder if either player is Sikh. If so, religion forbids appearing in public without his turban. That would make wearing a cap or helmet a little more interesting. I’m not trying to be a smart ass but has this ever come up before? Anyone know what a Sikh criket player wears?

ScottyJ in WV|
November 25, 2008 at 9:50 am |

Love this photo. The current Cowboys cheerleaders should consider reviving this look!

Are you serious? I became a Cardinals fan because of their unis. The red and white jersey is one of the bast in the NFL. Also, the Bills throwback is amazing. I wish they would wear it every Sunday. What is wrong with the Falcons? I’ll give you Vikings because of all the God-awful purple, but I just don’t see the others.

Terri|
November 25, 2008 at 10:11 am |

Hey everybody, I was wondering if I could get a little help with an assignment I have. I have to write an aritcle (I’m a journalism student)about etiquette rules for out-of-toen sports fans; basically, what people going to a game and rooting for the visitor should and should not do.

What I need is some things regular fans think- what annoys you guys about out of town fans at games, what can those fans do to avoid getting beer thrown at them, etc…
Also, if anyone has any stories about fans doing the wrong thing and getting something thrown at them and getting into fight or something like that, I’d love to hear it.
Last thing- since this has to be in an article, could you let me know your first name and either where you’re from or what your favorite team is. Thanks!

On a uni note, I went to the Flyers/Stars game last night. The Stars wore their third jersey (s aserious dissapointment- most ppl prob didn’t even realize it was a third jersey. The Flyers didn’t wear theirs, but were promoting it like craz- just about every stoppage of play they had it up on the jumbotron, reminding you that it went on sale on black friday, and if you got to the store by 7am, you got 30% off…uh, no thanks.

Conner|
November 25, 2008 at 10:13 am |

ok, I will agree with that high school team with the worst unis in sports, but the Buffalo Bills, Falcons, Cardinals, and Vikings should all be under consideration as well.

Are you serious? I became a Cardinals fan because of their unis. The red and white jersey is one of the bast in the NFL. Also, the Bills throwback is amazing. I wish they would wear it every Sunday. What is wrong with the Falcons? I’ll give you Vikings because of all the God-awful purple, but I just don’t see the others.

I love seeing pictures of certain teams in bad weather. Muddy jerseys make the yellow/gold and orange really pop. I remember seeing the Dolphins and Chargers in the mud and remembering how great the secondary colors looked.

Peter|
November 25, 2008 at 10:16 am |

Are you serious? I became a Cardinals fan because of their unis. The red and white jersey is one of the bast in the NFL. Also, the Bills throwback is amazing. I wish they would wear it every Sunday. What is wrong with the Falcons? I’ll give you Vikings because of all the God-awful purple, but I just don’t see the others.[/quote]

So you RECENTLY became a Cards fan….I see now….jump on that bandwagon….

(PS: All Boston fans should be banned from all NY venues…they start more shit than anyone)

Dave Plante|
November 25, 2008 at 10:18 am |

The picture with the rubber being so close to the edge of the mound also looks as if the pitcher is stepping off and looking the runner back to second base, so he may very well be off of the back of the mound.

Hank|
November 25, 2008 at 10:19 am |

For the record, the Phillies player Paul linked to in the Life photos is none other than Willie ‘Puddin’Head’ Jones. Played 3rd base for the Fightin’s from 1947 – 1959.

The late, great Whitey Ashburn always seemed to have a Puddin’ Head Jones story to tell when he did color commentary for Phillies games.

LI Phil|
November 25, 2008 at 10:20 am |

[quote](PS: All Boston fans should be banned from all NY venues…they start more shit than anyone)[/quote]

ok…lets NOT got there today

Terri|
November 25, 2008 at 10:22 am |

[quote comment=”301995″]Terri: where should we email the stories to?

(PS: All Boston fans should be banned from all NY venues…they start more shit than anyone)[/quote]

Knew I’d forget somethiing- it’s king221[at]marshall.edu

Peter|
November 25, 2008 at 10:22 am |

Phil,

I won’t go there tday, but her question cannot be answered with out personal experience…and specifically, a certain city’s fans in the Northeast has been known to be very unwelcomed guests when they travel…

(PS: All Boston fans should be banned from all NY venues…they start more shit than anyone)[/quote]

I’ve said this before, I’ve been to Boston to see a BOS/DET NHL game and every Boston fan I encountured was extremely nice. Wish me good luck and all that jazz. Didn’t expect that whatsoever given their sterotype, it was actually weird. Lesson Learned: Don’t believe in Sterotypes…

dm00n|
November 25, 2008 at 10:27 am |

I checked out some of the Little League photos before, and I wondered if the Farmington team was from Michigan. I missed this shot, which shows Michigan plates on the truck.

I’ll have to do a little research, but based on the Powers Rd. sign, the field must have been within a mile or two from my office. Which also means the Patent Drugs place was nearby too.

dm00n|
November 25, 2008 at 10:29 am |

[quote comment=”301993″]Are you serious? I became a Cardinals fan because of their unis. The red and white jersey is one of the bast in the NFL. Also, the Bills throwback is amazing. I wish they would wear it every Sunday. What is wrong with the Falcons? I’ll give you Vikings because of all the God-awful purple, but I just don’t see the others.[/quote]

So you RECENTLY became a Cards fan….I see now….jump on that bandwagon….[/quote]

The piping, trim, MAC conference look is what most people probably complain about.

LI Phil|
November 25, 2008 at 10:29 am |

[quote comment=”302000″]Phil,

I won’t go there tday, but her question cannot be answered with out personal experience…and specifically, a certain city’s fans in the Northeast has been known to be very unwelcomed guests when they travel…

Do you not agree?[/quote]

i do not…it takes two to tango and im sure there are unwelcome fans (NY included) from every city (im sure our european readers could regale us with various soccer hooligan stories as well)

by all means, tell Terri any stories you like, i just don’t think we need the boards filled with “philly fans suck” and the like today

Silver Salmon|
November 25, 2008 at 10:34 am |

I didn’t realize Klu ran around during the regular season without sleeves. I have spring training film footage of him that way, but never thought anyone would allow him to do so in any official game.

Jeff Scott|
November 25, 2008 at 10:35 am |

Regarding the shot of the Cardinals in the dugout with numbers on their stirrups… I think the digits are chain stitched. What’s most interesting to me, though, is that the numbers on the stirrups don’t correspond with the players wearing them. Maris (#9) has #24 on his, and Washburn (#44) has #30.

Danny|
November 25, 2008 at 10:40 am |

has anyone mentioned that the phillies logo in the picture is exactly like the one a reader proposed a month or so ago?

As a wings fan in BOS:
Very nice experience, no bad stories whatsoever. Walked to our seats, had a boston fan turn around, and say “wings fan eh?”, I said “Yup, from Detroit Area, here on a Hockey road Trip”. He replied “That’s cool, nice to see fans from other cities here, well good luck”.

As a Ranger fan in PHI:
Personally a neutral experience, no bad treatment, but no good treatment as in BOS. Just regular stares when you are wearing other team’s sweater in their arena. However, some philly and rangers fans got into a yelling match a few rows ahead of me during the game and the rangers fan got kicked out, I feel because they were NYR fans. From what was said and done, if the NYR fan was kicked out so should the PHI fan. He was just as bad.

As a wings fan in CHI:
Lots of banter from CHI fans about how my team ‘sucks’, CHI ‘rocks’ etc. CHI fans in front of us were giving us a hard time about our wings jerseys (possibly because the wings were losing all game). Then when the wings tied it late and ended up winning in OT, my buddy and I gave it back a little (expected) which the CHI didn’t like and just got offensive. With girlfriends there at the time one of the CHI started making them the butts of the jokes which was not acceptable and my buddy told the CHI fan to shut up, sit down, and put a hat on because the arena lights refecting off his bald head was blinding him. (I apologoze for my friend to all bald people). Never heard a peep out of the CHI guy for the rest of the game. Overall, fun time, expected the badgering but wouldn’t think it represents the whole fanbase or the great city of CHI.

As a neutral fan @ a NYR/WAS game @ MSG:
Had a ‘Neutral’ experence. Wasn’t bothered, just watched a great game in my first trip to NYC. Didn’t observe any hostility towards any WASH fans either…

Anybody else notice that last night, the Saints were wearing three shades of gold? Their helmet, the numbers and the collar on the jersey. The helmet was the lightest shade, the collar almost looked mustard and the numbers were somewhere in between.

Have they always had trouble matching the gold on their black jerseys? Anybody have a pick about it? Thanks.[/quote]

Of course I noticed. I got home after the game started and was on the phone with my SO and it was the first thing I said. The collar color was atrocious! It looked closer to the Packers gold than the shimmery gold on the Saints helmet.

Awful.

Nicole|
November 25, 2008 at 10:54 am |

[quote comment=”301989″]Hey everybody, I was wondering if I could get a little help with an assignment I have. I have to write an aritcle (I’m a journalism student)about etiquette rules for out-of-toen sports fans; basically, what people going to a game and rooting for the visitor should and should not do.

What I need is some things regular fans think- what annoys you guys about out of town fans at games, what can those fans do to avoid getting beer thrown at them, etc…
Also, if anyone has any stories about fans doing the wrong thing and getting something thrown at them and getting into fight or something like that, I’d love to hear it.
Last thing- since this has to be in an article, could you let me know your first name and either where you’re from or what your favorite team is. Thanks!

On a uni note, I went to the Flyers/Stars game last night. The Stars wore their third jersey (s aserious dissapointment- most ppl prob didn’t even realize it was a third jersey. The Flyers didn’t wear theirs, but were promoting it like craz- just about every stoppage of play they had it up on the jumbotron, reminding you that it went on sale on black friday, and if you got to the store by 7am, you got 30% off…uh, no thanks.[/quote]

Terri, why don’t you give us your email or have it hyperlinked to your name so we can email you our stories instead.

JMF|
November 25, 2008 at 10:57 am |

Right Field Screen at Forbes Field
The 28 ft screen was installed to prevent cheap home runs by lefties as the addition of RF stands in 1925 reduced the RF line from 376 ft to 300 ft

[quote comment=”301998″][quote](PS: All Boston fans should be banned from all NY venues…they start more shit than anyone)[/quote]

ok…lets NOT got there today[/quote]

More than Philadelphia fans?

shadoquad|
November 25, 2008 at 11:00 am |

[quote comment=”302006″][quote comment=”302000″]Phil,

I won’t go there tday, but her question cannot be answered with out personal experience…and specifically, a certain city’s fans in the Northeast has been known to be very unwelcomed guests when they travel…

Do you not agree?[/quote]

i do not…it takes two to tango and im sure there are unwelcome fans (NY included) from every city (im sure our european readers could regale us with various soccer hooligan stories as well)

by all means, tell Terri any stories you like, i just don’t think we need the boards filled with “philly fans suck” and the like today[/quote]

Phil,

I concur. In fact, I’ve had good and bad experiences with NY fans in the Baltimore area. It’s useless to generalize about fans from any one area, because people are individuals. I’ve met NY fans that I wanted to slap, but one of my best experiences at a Ravens game was when I met some Giants fans who were really terrific people.

So, it’s subjective at best. I mean, I’ve met Ravens and Orioles fans at games that I wanted to smack fwiw, and they’re my teams.

I wonder if either player is Sikh. If so, religion forbids appearing in public without his turban. That would make wearing a cap or helmet a little more interesting. I’m not trying to be a smart ass but has this ever come up before? Anyone know what a Sikh criket player wears?[/quote]

All of the patches were part of the lead-up to the 100th anniversary celebration.

besty|
November 25, 2008 at 11:17 am |

The little strip of tarp outside the third base line is a mechanical tarp roller. I didn’t know they had them that long ago but it is just like the one that ran over Vince Coleman in St. Louis in’85 or ’87.

scott|
November 25, 2008 at 11:20 am |

[quote comment=”301986″]The Twins throwback is full of inaccuracies, as mentioned.

But apart from that, and the red cap, I think they look pretty good as a modern uniform. They ought to wear them full-time when they move to the new stadium next year.[/quote]

I think they look pretty good, too. And the red cap is distinctive, especially in the American League where only the Angels regularly sport red caps.

But I don’t think the Twins should go to these uniforms full time. The Twins won with pinstripes in the ’60s and returned to their winning ways in ’87 when they brought the pinstripes back.

I think this question is probably best suited for Matt Powers. I believe that there are two different versions of the same facemask being worn and it has bothered me for some time. Here are the best examples of the two kinds:

Both Riddell helmets and both very similar facemasks, but Roethlistberger’s is noticeably bigger. Any thoughts?

Jeremiah Mc.|
November 25, 2008 at 11:47 am |

I’m compiling a media list for our new SID, and in the process ran across the TWF, or the Tennessee Wrestling Federation website. They use the very familiar Red White and Blue logo scheme as well. It can be seen here.

WOW, those Austin East High unis are pretty hideous. There’s a much better way to wear those colors. Just look HERE at pictures 5,6, & 7 – that’s Broadmoor HS in Baton Rouge, LA. The HOME UNIS are OK, but I would prefer they wore white or blue pants.

ScottMason|
November 25, 2008 at 11:52 am |

Hey, did Stan The Man announce his retirement on the road? The Cards appear that they are wearing their road grays and their navy hats. Plus, it looks like Wrigley (maybe) in the background. Anyone know anything about that?

[quote comment=”302036″]Hey, did Stan The Man announce his retirement on the road? The Cards appear that they are wearing their road grays and their navy hats. Plus, it looks like Wrigley (maybe) in the background. Anyone know anything about that?[/quote]
Actually, the announcement was first made in August, not September. That must have been a ceremony the Cards held for him.

As for road grays and navy caps, I’m not sure. It’s not clear from that pic – could well be the home uniform.

Ricko|
November 25, 2008 at 12:07 pm |

[quote comment=”302036″]Hey, did Stan The Man announce his retirement on the road? The Cards appear that they are wearing their road grays and their navy hats. Plus, it looks like Wrigley (maybe) in the background. Anyone know anything about that?[/quote]

Cardinals didn’t go to red hats until after Musial had retired. Piping on pants=home uniform. Last striping on Cardinal road pants…until doubleknits came along…was, I think, 1955. For sure there were gone in ’56, cuz that was the year of no “birds on bat” on chest of uniform.

—Ricko

BGJ|
November 25, 2008 at 12:10 pm |

Re: the “This is odd – why is the rubber so close to the edge of the mound, instead of in the center?” in today’s entry…

The pitcher is stepping off the back of the mound, home plate would be to his 5-o’clock. It appears that he is looking into right field when the picture is taken, possibly checking out a scoreboard that might be in that general area.

Ricko|
November 25, 2008 at 12:13 pm |

[quote comment=”302038″][quote comment=”302036″]Hey, did Stan The Man announce his retirement on the road? The Cards appear that they are wearing their road grays and their navy hats. Plus, it looks like Wrigley (maybe) in the background. Anyone know anything about that?[/quote]

Cardinals didn’t go to red hats until after Musial had retired. Piping on pants=home uniform. Last striping on Cardinal road pants…until doubleknits came along…was, I think, 1955. For sure there were gone in ’56, cuz that was the year of no “birds on bat” on chest of uniform.

Musial’s final game was IN St. Louis against the Reds on 9/29/63. The reason it looks like Wrigley in the background is because it’s Busch Stadium I (Sportsman’s Park).

According to Dressed To The Nines the Cards wore their blue hats for home and away in ’63. In ’64, they wore blue only on the road, and in ’65 they went to red for home and away.

TD|
November 25, 2008 at 12:19 pm |

re: Steagles .. I think it’s equally fair to assume that the number sides are the backs since they have no tags.. That would make a ton more sense and the collars don’t appear to be definitive either way.

Still, numberless fronts would be weird too.

Ricko|
November 25, 2008 at 12:21 pm |

[quote comment=”302039″]Re: the “This is odd – why is the rubber so close to the edge of the mound, instead of in the center?” in today’s entry…

The pitcher is stepping off the back of the mound, home plate would be to his 5-o’clock. It appears that he is looking into right field when the picture is taken, possibly checking out a scoreboard that might be in that general area.[/quote]

It’s pre-game warmup mound (they used to have those near the dugouts in some ball parks; Met Stadium, for one, Cleveland for another). Municipal Stadium had a huge foul area, which is why the fence in relatively far away, but not far enough away for him to be on the actual mound.

[quote comment=”302042″]re: Steagles .. I think it’s equally fair to assume that the number sides are the backs since they have no tags.. That would make a ton more sense and the collars don’t appear to be definitive either way.

Still, numberless fronts would be weird too.[/quote]
Sure would. The league mandated that “all players wear numerals a minumum of six inches high on the front of the jersey and eight inches high on the back of the jersey” starting in 1937.

But again, there’s no way those are Steagles jerseys. As cool as it would be for them to have worn some Phil-Pitt hybrid uniform, the Steagles wore Eagles’ uniforms, kelly green jerseys with thick white (silver?) stripes down the sleeves.

skott daltonic|
November 25, 2008 at 12:30 pm |

as a Boston Bruins fan we’d constantly go down to the Hartford Civic Center to see the B’s play the Whalers.

lots and lots and lots of fights during the playoffs of the early 90s. i remember there was one gigantic brawl between at least 15-20 people at one game that had the game paused while they regained control of the crowd…

according to BR, he only batted as a brewer in 1999 (unless this list is somehow incomplete)

BGJ|
November 25, 2008 at 12:37 pm |

Thx Ricko – I also just noticed there were no base paths in the background, which definitely confirms he was in foul territory.

Anyone have any more pics of these flat, sandy bullpen mounds that were apparently in early stadiums? Seems to defeat the purpose if they don’t depict the exact height and terrain of the actual pitchers mound on the playing field.

[quote comment=”302033″]I think this question is probably best suited for Matt Powers. I believe that there are two different versions of the same facemask being worn and it has bothered me for some time. Here are the best examples of the two kinds:

If memory serves, in the late 90’s Riddell began making longer versions of some existing facemasks, like those OPO models that you linked to in order to provide additional jaw protection without adding unneeded mass.

One of the masks, more popular with LB and skill position players, affectionately known as the “Crooked Teeth”:

[quote comment=”302048″]Thx Ricko – I also just noticed there were no base paths in the background, which definitely confirms he was in foul territory.

Anyone have any more pics of these flat, sandy bullpen mounds that were apparently in early stadiums? Seems to defeat the purpose if they don’t depict the exact height and terrain of the actual pitchers mound on the playing field.[/quote]

As I recall (at the Met, anyway) they were mostly used for pitchers to stay loose during pre-game lineup announcements, etc., after they’d done their serious warm up in the bullpen. And, of course, earlier in pre-game some position player might have used it to show off his knuckleball.

according to BR, he only batted as a brewer in 1999 (unless this list is somehow incomplete)[/quote]

Looks like the list is correct, according to this article from the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel from the time when he signed with the Brewers. He had some hits in Spring Training but no game at-bats until he went to Milwaukee (and the NL).

[quote comment=”302008″]Regarding the shot of the Cardinals in the dugout with numbers on their stirrups… I think the digits are chain stitched. What’s most interesting to me, though, is that the numbers on the stirrups don’t correspond with the players wearing them. Maris (#9) has #24 on his, and Washburn (#44) has #30.[/quote]
A while back, I wrote this article and included this picture of Flood (#21) wearing a #17 stirrup. (Hint: left ankle.) What’s really curious about this case is that #17 is a retired number for Dizzy Dean. But this is interesting: I thought the Flood picture was just an anomalous circumstance. Looks like Cardinals’ stirrup numbers and jersey numbers were mismatched more regularly.

Last Friday I noted that an Ohio State player had a large buckeye decal with the word “bucks” arched(?) underneath in the 1974 OSU-Michigan game. I’ve found a pic from 1973 with that same decal (the helmet behind the UM player in the center. Anybody know anything?

according to BR, he only batted as a brewer in 1999 (unless this list is somehow incomplete)[/quote]

Probably an exhibition game at Dodger Stadium. Angels and Dodgers often played a “Freeway Series” although I wouldn’t have thought it during the day. Background sure doesn’t look like any Spring Training sites.

[quote comment=”302054″]I have read alot about the Sharks thing- I didn’t realize that something MADE by SeagateÂ® is ah, coincidentally, called “Black Armor.”

Erp.

But I will say in their defense, their SeagateÂ® portable hard drive things are great. I got one, cost 75 dollars, and I can get my entire PC on it.[/quote]

You could have bought a Sharks’ BlackArmor piece for $350 that could have helped wick away water from your body. Everyone should represent a sell-out.

Yeah, stick with the Seagate version. It’s definitely more practical, and you don’t even have to like the Sharks. LOL

rocketman|
November 25, 2008 at 1:15 pm |

[quote comment=”302015″][quote comment=”301968″]Hey everybody,

Anybody else notice that last night, the Saints were wearing three shades of gold? Their helmet, the numbers and the collar on the jersey. The helmet was the lightest shade, the collar almost looked mustard and the numbers were somewhere in between.

Have they always had trouble matching the gold on their black jerseys? Anybody have a pick about it? Thanks.[/quote]

Of course I noticed. I got home after the game started and was on the phone with my SO and it was the first thing I said. The collar color was atrocious! It looked closer to the Packers gold than the shimmery gold on the Saints helmet.

Awful.[/quote]

I agree. As mentioned, the numbers, collar, and helmet don’t match. In addition, the all-black looks dreadful. On the other hand, without the gold pants, at least there was less gold to mis-match.

Last season, when the Jags visited the Superdome wearing their black pants while the Saints wore all-black it looked like a funeral.

according to BR, he only batted as a brewer in 1999 (unless this list is somehow incomplete)[/quote]

Probably an exhibition game at Dodger Stadium. Angels and Dodgers often played a “Freeway Series” although I wouldn’t have thought it during the day. Background sure doesn’t look like any Spring Training sites.[/quote]

now im wondering when and where that pic was taken (obviously, circa 1990, since it’s a 1991 card)…i did find one other picture of abbott in the batting cage, but i believe it’s just when he was with the brewers (and would have batted in games he started), so it’s not really relevant

To those who lambasted the Carolina Hurricanes for wearing black pants with their black jerseys… Look at the new Yotes 3rds. Red pants with black jerseys are disgusting, and thats only a dulled version of red. It would have been monumentally worse in Carolina’s red

Re: the Forbes Field strip along the third base line. I see someone already said tarp roller, but how weird is this–earlier this month I posted a slightly different Forbes Field picture (taken from the same spot) on my blog and asked what it was, and received the same answer. I’d like to see one of those crazy things in action….

(The pic was from the 1980 WS program, which I posted pics from–some uni- and advertising-related content you might enjoy.)

Lwiedy|
November 25, 2008 at 1:27 pm |

[quote comment=”302050″][quote comment=”302048″]Thx Ricko – I also just noticed there were no base paths in the background, which definitely confirms he was in foul territory.

Anyone have any more pics of these flat, sandy bullpen mounds that were apparently in early stadiums? Seems to defeat the purpose if they don’t depict the exact height and terrain of the actual pitchers mound on the playing field.[/quote]

As I recall (at the Met, anyway) they were mostly used for pitchers to stay loose during pre-game lineup announcements, etc., after they’d done their serious warm up in the bullpen. And, of course, earlier in pre-game some position player might have used it to show off his knuckleball.[/quote]

[quote comment=”302063″]Re: the Forbes Field strip along the third base line. I see someone already said tarp roller, but how weird is this–earlier this month I posted a slightly different Forbes Field picture (taken from the same spot) on my blog and asked what it was, and received the same answer. I’d like to see one of those crazy things in action….

(The pic was from the 1980 WS program, which I posted pics from–some uni- and advertising-related content you might enjoy.)[/quote]

Don’t miss seeing the ad with Terry Bradshaw’s ridiculous rug!

sam|
November 25, 2008 at 1:33 pm |

One of those Big Klu pictures says it’s Reds vs. Yankees in June 1956. Huh?

Assuming the caption info was correct, maybe it was an exhibition of some sort? … Baseball Reference shows the Yankees were in the middle of a homestand in June, 1956, as the Reds were coming into town from Philly for a series in Brooklyn. Both the Yanks had Reds had off days on the 21st. Maybe that’s it?

Also, that cathcer doesn’t look like Yogi or Ellie Howard … any ideas who else that might have been?

The worst opposing team fan story I know of is this, and it was the home teams fans that were the problem…

I have a friend who played in the OHL. One time, in our hometown, his 15 year old sister was spit on for wearing a Brampton shirt. She is really shy, I’ve known them my whole life and she rarely speaks and when she does she is very quiet. So I can assure you that she was not being a problem at the game.

So basically being a fan in the opposing teams building is a case-by-case basis. In this case, just her being there was apparently a problem, but in many cases it can be a lot of fun if you are surrounded by the right people. It can even make the game more fun for the hometown fans if you and them are on the same page. It all depends on the other fans. Even at the same game, one person could have a great time and someone else sitting somewhere else may have the worse experience imaginable.

Assuming the caption info was correct, maybe it was an exhibition of some sort? … Baseball Reference shows the Yankees were in the middle of a homestand in June, 1956, as the Reds were coming into town from Philly for a series in Brooklyn. Both the Yanks had Reds had off days on the 21st. Maybe that’s it?

Also, that cathcer doesn’t look like Yogi or Ellie Howard … any ideas who else that might have been?[/quote]

Actually looks facially like sometime Yanks catcher Johnny Blanchard. I know it could be caused by the shinguard straps, but are there stripes on those stirrups? And what if this is from an All-Star game? This photo may remain a mystery.

Chad|
November 25, 2008 at 1:58 pm |

my only guess that this is some nike commercial that i haven’t seen yet with lots of tweaking. but, if it’s not what team is this? i’ve never seen jordan wearing this uniform before. the comments are useless from what i’ve seen. anyone know???http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te-8MJ84834

[quote comment=”302065″][quote comment=”302063″]Re: the Forbes Field strip along the third base line. I see someone already said tarp roller, but how weird is this–earlier this month I posted a slightly different Forbes Field picture (taken from the same spot) on my blog and asked what it was, and received the same answer. I’d like to see one of those crazy things in action….

(The pic was from the 1980 WS program, which I posted pics from–some uni- and advertising-related content you might enjoy.)[/quote]

[quote comment=”302071″]my only guess that this is some nike commercial that i haven’t seen yet with lots of tweaking. but, if it’s not what team is this? i’ve never seen jordan wearing this uniform before. the comments are useless from what i’ve seen. anyone know???http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te-8MJ84834%5B/quote%5D

apparently it’s “Trieste (Italy) summer of 1986, Stefanel Trieste vs Juve Caserta,Nike exhibition game with Michael Jordan” (this is according to several other vids posted with the dunk and/or other footage)

Assuming the caption info was correct, maybe it was an exhibition of some sort? … Baseball Reference shows the Yankees were in the middle of a homestand in June, 1956, as the Reds were coming into town from Philly for a series in Brooklyn. Both the Yanks had Reds had off days on the 21st. Maybe that’s it?

Also, that cathcer doesn’t look like Yogi or Ellie Howard … any ideas who else that might have been?[/quote]

Actually looks facially like sometime Yanks catcher Johnny Blanchard. I know it could be caused by the shinguard straps, but are there stripes on those stirrups? And what if this is from an All-Star game? This photo may remain a mystery.[/quote]

Those are ’56 White Sox stirrups. Absolutely, especially cuz is with a pinstriped uni. Was Sherm Lollar on the AL All-Star team in ’56? Where was ASG in ’56? It’s the right year; first year of “Redlegs” sleeveless vests and only year they wore a red hat with them.

Assuming the caption info was correct, maybe it was an exhibition of some sort? … Baseball Reference shows the Yankees were in the middle of a homestand in June, 1956, as the Reds were coming into town from Philly for a series in Brooklyn. Both the Yanks had Reds had off days on the 21st. Maybe that’s it?

Also, that cathcer doesn’t look like Yogi or Ellie Howard … any ideas who else that might have been?[/quote]

Actually looks facially like sometime Yanks catcher Johnny Blanchard. I know it could be caused by the shinguard straps, but are there stripes on those stirrups? And what if this is from an All-Star game? This photo may remain a mystery.[/quote]

Those are ’56 White Sox stirrups. Absolutely, especially cuz is with a pinstriped uni. Was Sherm Lollar on the AL All-Star team in ’56? Where was ASG in ’56? It’s the right year; first year of “Redlegs” sleeveless vests and only year they wore a red hat with them.

—Ricko[/quote]

Wouldn’t bet the mortgage but I think we have a winner. 1956 ASG. Loller caught after the 6th. Klu doubled to right in the 7th. In the lineup, the catcher’s spot followed Klu (a shinguard is evident in the on-deck hitter). Also, that photo is at a unique angle. Griffith Stadium had some unique overhang boxes in the upper deck that would have allowed for this shot.

Ricko|
November 25, 2008 at 2:20 pm |

[quote comment=”302077″]’56 ASG was at Griffith Stadium in Washington. Both Klu and Lollar entered the game as pinch hitters and stayed in to play their positions.

—Ricko[/quote]

Note catcher on deck is wearing Redlegs striped stirrups (Cubs didn’t go to that pattern til ’57). Catcher Ed Bailey, Klu’s teammate, followed him in the batting order in the ’56 ASG.

LI Phil|
November 25, 2008 at 2:21 pm |

[quote comment=”302077″]’56 ASG was at Griffith Stadium in Washington. Both Klu and Lollar entered the game as pinch hitters and stayed in to play their positions.

—Ricko[/quote]

according to DTTN, in 1956, 4 teams wore pinstripes…NYY, CHS, WAS & PHL…and both CHS & WAS had the sock stipes…so that pretty much eliminates the catcher from being a yankee…

maybe it IS from the 1956 ASG…and the caption is just wrong (that the reds are playing the yanks), but the right year

Lwiedy|
November 25, 2008 at 2:25 pm |

[quote comment=”302079″][quote comment=”302077″]’56 ASG was at Griffith Stadium in Washington. Both Klu and Lollar entered the game as pinch hitters and stayed in to play their positions.

—Ricko[/quote]

Catcher Ed Bailey, Klu’s teammate, followed him in the batting order in the ’56 ASG.[/quote]

Rick, we BOTH should check “lastest post” before we post, we’re beginning to sound like a could of parrots ;-). Great (or twisted) minds think alike.

Lwiedy|
November 25, 2008 at 2:25 pm |

[quote comment=”302081″][quote comment=”302079″][quote comment=”302077″]’56 ASG was at Griffith Stadium in Washington. Both Klu and Lollar entered the game as pinch hitters and stayed in to play their positions.

—Ricko[/quote]

Catcher Ed Bailey, Klu’s teammate, followed him in the batting order in the ’56 ASG.[/quote]

Rick, we BOTH should check “lastest post” before we post, we’re beginning to sound like a could of parrots ;-). Great (or twisted) minds think alike.[/quote]

[quote comment=”302062″]To those who lambasted the Carolina Hurricanes for wearing black pants with their black jerseys… Look at the new Yotes 3rds. Red pants with black jerseys are disgusting, and thats only a dulled version of red. It would have been monumentally worse in Carolina’s red[/quote]

Completely disagree. The red on the pants match the red on the jerseys, and create a very nice look. Considering that black isn’t even a primary colour of the Coyotes, the red pants are entirely appropriate, and infinitely better than black pants.

Those WSU helmets aren’t really special; they’re just their road helmets. Usually WSU wears grey helmets and pants at home, but went with their road helmets and pants with their home shirt for the Apple Cup.

Carl G|
November 25, 2008 at 2:44 pm |

On those Wendell Clark tribute patches. They looked nice, but a part of me just thinks its a little creepy. It seems to me like more of an “in memorium” patch.

[quote comment=”302083″][quote comment=”302062″]To those who lambasted the Carolina Hurricanes for wearing black pants with their black jerseys… Look at the new Yotes 3rds. Red pants with black jerseys are disgusting, and thats only a dulled version of red. It would have been monumentally worse in Carolina’s red[/quote]

Completely disagree. The red on the pants match the red on the jerseys, and create a very nice look. Considering that black isn’t even a primary colour of the Coyotes, the red pants are entirely appropriate, and infinitely better than black pants.[/quote]

[quote comment=”302062″]To those who lambasted the Carolina Hurricanes for wearing black pants with their black jerseys… Look at the new Yotes 3rds. Red pants with black jerseys are disgusting, and thats only a dulled version of red. It would have been monumentally worse in Carolina’s red[/quote]

Actually, I still think red pants looks better. All black looks awful on a TV or computer screen watching the game, they look like little blobs of black ink.

SteveABQ|
November 25, 2008 at 2:59 pm |

Remember awhile back when when a Uniwatch contributor “re-designed” the Phillies logo. I got all up in arms proclaiming that the so-called stream-lined effects he did to it were in fact nothing new. I even posted pictures of Robin Roberts to prove it. Well the pic up there on the LIFE page sums it up nicely. So much for a re-design. Just Syain’

SteveABQ|
November 25, 2008 at 3:01 pm |

That is: “Sayin”

LI Phil|
November 25, 2008 at 3:01 pm |

[quote comment=”302089″][quote comment=”302083″][quote comment=”302062″]To those who lambasted the Carolina Hurricanes for wearing black pants with their black jerseys… Look at the new Yotes 3rds. Red pants with black jerseys are disgusting, and thats only a dulled version of red. It would have been monumentally worse in Carolina’s red[/quote]

Completely disagree. The red on the pants match the red on the jerseys, and create a very nice look. Considering that black isn’t even a primary colour of the Coyotes, the red pants are entirely appropriate, and infinitely better than black pants.[/quote]

the red breezers are MUCH better, but…the yotes sweater design (not the yote logo) is HORRIFIC…take that red crap off the sleeves and shrink the side piping and it’s a nice combo

Chad|
November 25, 2008 at 3:06 pm |

[quote comment=”302074″][quote comment=”302071″]my only guess that this is some nike commercial that i haven’t seen yet with lots of tweaking. but, if it’s not what team is this? i’ve never seen jordan wearing this uniform before. the comments are useless from what i’ve seen. anyone know???http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te-8MJ84834%5B/quote%5D

apparently it’s “Trieste (Italy) summer of 1986, Stefanel Trieste vs Juve Caserta,Nike exhibition game with Michael Jordan” (this is according to several other vids posted with the dunk and/or other footage)[/quote]

amazing what 30 seconds of work can lead to…i’ll put my bike helmet back on and continue surfing the web

Beardface|
November 25, 2008 at 3:31 pm |

[quote comment=”302083″][quote comment=”302062″]To those who lambasted the Carolina Hurricanes for wearing black pants with their black jerseys… Look at the new Yotes 3rds. Red pants with black jerseys are disgusting, and thats only a dulled version of red. It would have been monumentally worse in Carolina’s red[/quote]

Completely disagree. The red on the pants match the red on the jerseys, and create a very nice look. Considering that black isn’t even a primary colour of the Coyotes, the red pants are entirely appropriate, and infinitely better than black pants.[/quote]
Perhaps with the Yotes their shade of red makes it decent, but its still bad. With the Hurricanes, you’d be having a bright red pants, and the contrast of black sweater/socks with bright red pants would give you a headache.

Granted, for the Yotes, this is still monumentally better than the last time they tried a 3rd jersey…..

Mike|
November 25, 2008 at 3:35 pm |

Adidas has every freaking right to put 3 stripes on that sunscreen..it’s their product! You wouldn’t be mad at Banana Boat or Coppertone for putting their logo on their bottles.

Jon|
November 25, 2008 at 3:38 pm |

The crimson WAZZU helmets were indeed quite special, because they had the “Cougars” script lettering for the very first time on a crimson helmet. In person, I can tell you that the Cougs’ all-crimson unis looked terrific and were very well-received by fans. One quibble is that the pants could have used some gray piping to match the jerseys, but that’s what happens when different uni pieces are worn together in a way not originally contemplated. Perhaps that small flaw will be corrected next season as new uni designs are introduced (from Nike).

Juan Grande|
November 25, 2008 at 3:43 pm |

[quote comment=”302035″]WOW, those Austin East High unis are pretty hideous. There’s a much better way to wear those colors. Just look HERE at pictures 5,6, & 7 – that’s Broadmoor HS in Baton Rouge, LA. The HOME UNIS are OK, but I would prefer they wore white or blue pants.[/quote]

I think USC is going to be pissed about the other team duplicating their uni design!

[quote comment=”302095″][quote comment=”302083″][quote comment=”302062″]To those who lambasted the Carolina Hurricanes for wearing black pants with their black jerseys… Look at the new Yotes 3rds. Red pants with black jerseys are disgusting, and thats only a dulled version of red. It would have been monumentally worse in Carolina’s red[/quote]

Completely disagree. The red on the pants match the red on the jerseys, and create a very nice look. Considering that black isn’t even a primary colour of the Coyotes, the red pants are entirely appropriate, and infinitely better than black pants.[/quote]
Perhaps with the Yotes their shade of red makes it decent, but its still bad. With the Hurricanes, you’d be having a bright red pants, and the contrast of black sweater/socks with bright red pants would give you a headache.

Granted, for the Yotes, this is still monumentally better than the last time they tried a 3rd jersey…..[/quote]

My solution:

NO THIRD JERSEYS!

Problem solved :)

Duck|
November 25, 2008 at 3:50 pm |

[quote comment=”302091″]Remember awhile back when when a Uniwatch contributor “re-designed” the Phillies logo. I got all up in arms proclaiming that the so-called stream-lined effects he did to it were in fact nothing new. I even posted pictures of Robin Roberts to prove it. Well the pic up there on the LIFE page sums it up nicely. So much for a re-design. Just Syain'[/quote]

I think you still aren’t getting it. What he did was attempt to fix a “broken” logo. Paul surmised that it had been bastardized over the years by lazy people making a copy of a copy of a copy, etc. He was trying to fix what was broken, not create something new, per say. And like you tried to point out, that propbably was the case. You and others seemed to take offense for some reason that I still don’t understand. You accuse someone of taking credit they never took. You’re arguing semantics because the word redesign was used, get over it.

[quote comment=”302095″][quote comment=”302083″][quote comment=”302062″]To those who lambasted the Carolina Hurricanes for wearing black pants with their black jerseys… Look at the new Yotes 3rds. Red pants with black jerseys are disgusting, and thats only a dulled version of red. It would have been monumentally worse in Carolina’s red[/quote]

Completely disagree. The red on the pants match the red on the jerseys, and create a very nice look. Considering that black isn’t even a primary colour of the Coyotes, the red pants are entirely appropriate, and infinitely better than black pants.[/quote]
Perhaps with the Yotes their shade of red makes it decent, but its still bad. With the Hurricanes, you’d be having a bright red pants, and the contrast of black sweater/socks with bright red pants would give you a headache.

Granted, for the Yotes, this is still monumentally better than the last time they tried a 3rd jersey…..[/quote]

The improvements won hands-down over what is currently being worn as an alternate in an informal Uni Watch vote.

Not only do they have colour, but they aren’t wearing a one-piece any longer. That’s why the pants routinely are a different colour and why hemline stripes were important on hockey jerseys.

Ricko|
November 25, 2008 at 3:55 pm |

[quote comment=”302099″][quote comment=”302095″][quote comment=”302083″][quote comment=”302062″]To those who lambasted the Carolina Hurricanes for wearing black pants with their black jerseys… Look at the new Yotes 3rds. Red pants with black jerseys are disgusting, and thats only a dulled version of red. It would have been monumentally worse in Carolina’s red[/quote]

Completely disagree. The red on the pants match the red on the jerseys, and create a very nice look. Considering that black isn’t even a primary colour of the Coyotes, the red pants are entirely appropriate, and infinitely better than black pants.[/quote]
Perhaps with the Yotes their shade of red makes it decent, but its still bad. With the Hurricanes, you’d be having a bright red pants, and the contrast of black sweater/socks with bright red pants would give you a headache.

Granted, for the Yotes, this is still monumentally better than the last time they tried a 3rd jersey…..[/quote]

My solution:

NO THIRD JERSEYS!

Problem solved :)[/quote]

Yup. It’s just an excuse for teams to have a black jersey…particularly in NHL, it seems. All cuz of that one study a decade or so ago that said teams in black were perceived as tougher and more aggressive.

[quote comment=”302093″]
the red breezers are MUCH better, but…the yotes sweater design (not the yote logo) is HORRIFIC…take that red crap off the sleeves and shrink the side piping and it’s a nice combo[/quote]

Agreed, Phil. Move the red sleeve colour up to the shoulder yoke, and leave a thin elbow stripe of sand-brick red-sand, and you’d be in “wow” territory.

The border collie on the front is ridiculous, but there’s far too much black on the jerseys. I’d also go with a thin sand-brick-sand stripe on the hem just to give the jersey a little more emphasis.

[quote comment=”302102″]
Yup. It’s just an excuse for teams to have a black jersey…particularly in NHL, it seems. All cuz of that one study a decade or so ago that said teams in black were perceived as tougher and more aggressive.

“Golly, we better get us a black jersey so we’ll be tough, too.”[/quote]

Like most things in Bettman’s world, he’s three trends and 10 years behind the times. LOL

[quote comment=”302095″]With the Hurricanes, you’d be having a bright red pants, and the contrast of black sweater/socks with bright red pants would give you a headache.
[/quote]
Interesting. Plenty of teams wear the red jerseys/black pants/red socks combo without sending fans running for their medicine cabinets (at least not that I’m aware of). What is it about the red pants that would cause this to happen?

jmart|
November 25, 2008 at 4:31 pm |

Did anyone notice the insane amount of belt loops on the guy standing next to honus wagner?

jmart|
November 25, 2008 at 4:32 pm |

[quote comment=”302096″]Adidas has every freaking right to put 3 stripes on that sunscreen..it’s their product! You wouldn’t be mad at Banana Boat or Coppertone for putting their logo on their bottles.[/quote]
He wasnt sayin that its wrong to put the three stripes on the bottle but the fact that it comes out in three stripes is ridiculous

jmart|
November 25, 2008 at 4:34 pm |

one last thing too
notice the hand drawn numbers on walt’s and another ranger’s skates

[quote comment=”302104″][quote comment=”302102″]
Yup. It’s just an excuse for teams to have a black jersey…particularly in NHL, it seems. All cuz of that one study a decade or so ago that said teams in black were perceived as tougher and more aggressive.

“Golly, we better get us a black jersey so we’ll be tough, too.”[/quote]

Like most things in Bettman’s world, he’s three trends and 10 years behind the times. LOL[/quote]

The Black jersey trend comes from the Bruins. Not only were they the first team with a black jersey, they played a very physical an intimidating style of hockey. They were known as “the Big Bad Bruins” in Don Cherry’s era.

Ricko|
November 25, 2008 at 4:42 pm |

[quote comment=”302107″][quote comment=”302096″]Adidas has every freaking right to put 3 stripes on that sunscreen..it’s their product! You wouldn’t be mad at Banana Boat or Coppertone for putting their logo on their bottles.[/quote]
He wasnt sayin that its wrong to put the three stripes on the bottle but the fact that it comes out in three stripes is ridiculous[/quote]

Well, if they hadn’t done it that way it would just come out in a “swoosh”.

LI Phil|
November 25, 2008 at 4:50 pm |

[quote comment=”302107″][quote comment=”302096″]Adidas has every freaking right to put 3 stripes on that sunscreen..it’s their product! You wouldn’t be mad at Banana Boat or Coppertone for putting their logo on their bottles.[/quote]
He wasnt sayin that its wrong to put the three stripes on the bottle but the fact that it comes out in three stripes is ridiculous[/quote]

exactly…i din’t pay attention to this item in the ticker, but check out the nozzle…THREE freakin little holes providing well…3 ‘stripes’ of spray

/*groan* at ricko’s swoosh comment

Ricko|
November 25, 2008 at 4:55 pm |

[quote comment=”302110″][quote comment=”302104″][quote comment=”302102″]
Yup. It’s just an excuse for teams to have a black jersey…particularly in NHL, it seems. All cuz of that one study a decade or so ago that said teams in black were perceived as tougher and more aggressive.

“Golly, we better get us a black jersey so we’ll be tough, too.”[/quote]

Like most things in Bettman’s world, he’s three trends and 10 years behind the times. LOL[/quote]

The Black jersey trend comes from the Bruins. Not only were they the first team with a black jersey, they played a very physical an intimidating style of hockey. They were known as “the Big Bad Bruins” in Don Cherry’s era.[/quote]

No offense, but no it doesn’t, although I’m sure Bruins fans would love to believe that.

It comes from that study, which somewhat coincided with the Kings switch from purple & gold to black & purple. That’s when the black thing essentially began, with the Gretsky Kings.

Teebz, that’s about it, isn’t it?

jmart|
November 25, 2008 at 4:57 pm |

[quote comment=”302110″][quote comment=”302104″][quote comment=”302102″]
Yup. It’s just an excuse for teams to have a black jersey…particularly in NHL, it seems. All cuz of that one study a decade or so ago that said teams in black were perceived as tougher and more aggressive.

“Golly, we better get us a black jersey so we’ll be tough, too.”[/quote]

Like most things in Bettman’s world, he’s three trends and 10 years behind the times. LOL[/quote]

The Black jersey trend comes from the Bruins. Not only were they the first team with a black jersey, they played a very physical an intimidating style of hockey. They were known as “the Big Bad Bruins” in Don Cherry’s era.[/quote]
the black jersey trend does not come from the bruins although they were they first team wit black they tried to keep it that way because when the penguins came into the league they couldnt use black and gold as their colors cuz the bruins said they had a monopoly on black and gold and they black jersey trend is all across sports not just hockey

Ricko|
November 25, 2008 at 4:58 pm |

[quote comment=”302114″][quote comment=”302110″][quote comment=”302104″][quote comment=”302102″]
Yup. It’s just an excuse for teams to have a black jersey…particularly in NHL, it seems. All cuz of that one study a decade or so ago that said teams in black were perceived as tougher and more aggressive.

“Golly, we better get us a black jersey so we’ll be tough, too.”[/quote]

Like most things in Bettman’s world, he’s three trends and 10 years behind the times. LOL[/quote]

The Black jersey trend comes from the Bruins. Not only were they the first team with a black jersey, they played a very physical an intimidating style of hockey. They were known as “the Big Bad Bruins” in Don Cherry’s era.[/quote]

No offense, but no it doesn’t, although I’m sure Bruins fans would love to believe that.

It comes from that study, which somewhat coincided with the Kings switch from purple & gold to black & purple. That’s when the black thing essentially began, with the Gretsky Kings.

Teebz, that’s about it, isn’t it?[/quote]

Honest, I know how to spell Gretzky.

SteveABQ|
November 25, 2008 at 5:00 pm |

[quote comment=”302100″][quote comment=”302091″]Remember awhile back when when a Uniwatch contributor “re-designed” the Phillies logo. I got all up in arms proclaiming that the so-called stream-lined effects he did to it were in fact nothing new. I even posted pictures of Robin Roberts to prove it. Well the pic up there on the LIFE page sums it up nicely. So much for a re-design. Just Syain'[/quote]

I think you still aren’t getting it. What he did was attempt to fix a “broken” logo. Paul surmised that it had been bastardized over the years by lazy people making a copy of a copy of a copy, etc. He was trying to fix what was broken, not create something new, per say. And like you tried to point out, that propbably was the case. You and others seemed to take offense for some reason that I still don’t understand. You accuse someone of taking credit they never took. You’re arguing semantics because the word redesign was used, get over it.[/quote]

Well since I have not seen the guy comment in his defense I’ll take your word for it with regards to the taking credit part. Its not as though I took offense I just felt that it came off like this guy had made these ground shattering changes to the logo when in reality little was done – aside from tossing it into a 2 dimensional digital format. What drove me to commenting in the first place was that I had read other comments before about how “ugly” the Phillies script is, I think its an weak argument to make since the script is steeped in the teams history — as evidenced by the photos in this post. I’m not even a Phillies fan.

mRoy|
November 25, 2008 at 5:03 pm |

[quote comment=”302114″][quote comment=”302110″][quote comment=”302104″][quote comment=”302102″]
Yup. It’s just an excuse for teams to have a black jersey…particularly in NHL, it seems. All cuz of that one study a decade or so ago that said teams in black were perceived as tougher and more aggressive.

“Golly, we better get us a black jersey so we’ll be tough, too.”[/quote]

Like most things in Bettman’s world, he’s three trends and 10 years behind the times. LOL[/quote]

The Black jersey trend comes from the Bruins. Not only were they the first team with a black jersey, they played a very physical an intimidating style of hockey. They were known as “the Big Bad Bruins” in Don Cherry’s era.[/quote]

No offense, but no it doesn’t, although I’m sure Bruins fans would love to believe that.

It comes from that study, which somewhat coincided with the Kings switch from purple & gold to black & purple. That’s when the black thing essentially began, with the Gretsky Kings.

Teebz, that’s about it, isn’t it?[/quote]

Did the Kings change to Black and Silver because of the popularity of the LA Raiders or because of the that survey?

Before the Kings turned to black, you only had the Bruins, Canucks and Penguins wearing black. The Bruins were wearing black before any of these teams.

Mike|
November 25, 2008 at 5:03 pm |

[quote comment=”302113″][quote comment=”302107″][quote comment=”302096″]Adidas has every freaking right to put 3 stripes on that sunscreen..it’s their product! You wouldn’t be mad at Banana Boat or Coppertone for putting their logo on their bottles.[/quote]
He wasnt sayin that its wrong to put the three stripes on the bottle but the fact that it comes out in three stripes is ridiculous[/quote]

exactly…i din’t pay attention to this item in the ticker, but check out the nozzle…THREE freakin little holes providing well…3 ‘stripes’ of spray

/*groan* at ricko’s swoosh comment[/quote]
Ah I completely misread that. Apologies on my part, I could see why people would not like that. Although I think it’s a cool idea.

Ricko|
November 25, 2008 at 5:13 pm |

“The Bruins were wearing black before any of these teams.”

No one is saying that isn’t so. But it doesn’t mean every NHL team that chooses black is doing so because of the Bruins. That’s like saying the Saints chose black when they joined the NFL—or that the Eagles and Lions have black alts—because the Steelers have been wearing black since, well, as long as they’ve been around.

[quote comment=”302114″]
The Black jersey trend comes from the Bruins. Not only were they the first team with a black jersey, they played a very physical an intimidating style of hockey. They were known as “the Big Bad Bruins” in Don Cherry’s era.[/quote]

No offense, but no it doesn’t, although I’m sure Bruins fans would love to believe that.

It comes from that study, which somewhat coincided with the Kings switch from purple & gold to black & purple. That’s when the black thing essentially began, with the Gretzky Kings.

Teebz, that’s about it, isn’t it?[/quote]

The Gretzky era was the same time as the Bo Jackson era with the Raiders (going back to the Pro-Stars cereal days). They were all about the black-and-silver, and both teams hyped those colours to death.

The Bruins, in their predominantly white-and-yellow home jerseys, were called the “Big Bad Bruins” because of the characters they had on their teams, not because of their jersey colours. They were the only team with a black road jersey until the Penguins applied for a colour change to match the other professional sports teams in Pittsburgh. Otherwise, orange would be a far scarier colour considering how badly the Broadstreet Bullies mopped the floor with everyone.

– The Minnesota North Stars went black first as they began the proceedings in 1991-92 to move to Dallas.
– In 1992-93, the Ottawa Senators wore black road jerseys with red accents. The Lightning also debuted in black road jerseys.
– The Buffalo Sabres, in 1997-98, re-introduced themselves in black, red, and white.
– That same season, the Blackhawks introduced a black-based jersey for the first time since 1936-37.
– In 1998-99, the Calgary Flames introduced a black jersey for the first time in franchise history. The Kings switched from black-and-silver to black-and-purple. The Flyers introduced the first black jersey in their history. The Washington Capitals also did the same.
– In 2000-01, the Flames opted to keep their black jerseys as their road jerseys, marking the first time in club history that they have not worn a red jersey. The Ottawa Senators introduced a black alternate after working more red and white into their colour scheme.
– In 2001-02, the San Jose Sharks add a black alternate jersey. The Philadelphia Flyers eliminate their orange home jersey, and adopt their black alternate as their new road threads. The Washington Capitals also eliminate their blue road jersey, sticking with a black road jersey.
– In 2003-04, the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim introduce a black alternate jersey. The Dallas Stars do the same.
– In 2006-07, the Anaheim Ducks opt for the all-black look at home. The Bruins wear two versions of the black, spoked-B jersey.
– In 2007-08, Anaheim, Boston, Dallas, Los Angeles, Philly, Pittsburgh, and Tampa Bay all opt for black-based home jerseys.
– In 2008-09, Boston, Carolina, Chicago, Los Angeles, Ottawa, Phoenix, and San Jose all opt for black-based alternate jerseys.

But it’s not an affliction. No, it’s just a passing trend like teal or fuschia. BEE-ESS!

mRoy|
November 25, 2008 at 5:23 pm |

[quote comment=”302125″]”The Bruins were wearing black before any of these teams.”

No one is saying that isn’t so. But it doesn’t mean every NHL team that chooses black is doing so because of the Bruins. That’s like saying the Saints chose black when they joined the NFL—or that the Eagles and Lions have black alts—because the Steelers have been wearing black since, well, as long as they’ve been around.[/quote]

I never wanted to imply that everybody is wearing black because of the Bruins. I was just mentioning that the Bruins were the first team to wear black.

Sorry if it came across that way, just getting the hand of this language.

I am not a Bruins fan, I dislike them.

Ricko|
November 25, 2008 at 5:28 pm |

[quote comment=”302127″][quote comment=”302125″]”The Bruins were wearing black before any of these teams.”

No one is saying that isn’t so. But it doesn’t mean every NHL team that chooses black is doing so because of the Bruins. That’s like saying the Saints chose black when they joined the NFL—or that the Eagles and Lions have black alts—because the Steelers have been wearing black since, well, as long as they’ve been around.[/quote]

I never wanted to imply that everybody is wearing black because of the Bruins. I was just mentioning that the Bruins were the first team to wear black.

Sorry if it came across that way, just getting the hand of this language.

I am not a Bruins fan, I dislike them.[/quote]

Turned out great, though, didn’t it. We got a comprehensive recap of “black for black’s sake” (much of the time) from Teebz out of the conversation.

[quote comment=”302127″]I never wanted to imply that everybody is wearing black because of the Bruins. I was just mentioning that the Bruins were the first team to wear black.
[/quote]
If I may continue with the beating of this dead horse… Chicago was the first NHL team to wear a predominantly black top. Boston didn’t go black for another 20 years or so (long afer the Hawks went to the “barber pole” design).

Although, I do get that what you meant was Boston was the only team in the post-Original Six era wearing black until the recent boom.

mRoy|
November 25, 2008 at 5:53 pm |

“Although, I do get that what you meant was Boston was the only team in the post-Original Six era wearing black until the recent boom.”

Thank you for reading my mind and expressing it.

Brandon|
November 25, 2008 at 5:54 pm |

About the Stan the Man picture: I bet it is a boy scout neckerchief only because I can remember seeing footage from Bob Gibson’s retirement of a boy scout putting a neckerchief around his neck. You can try finding the Cardinals 100th anniversary VHS, thats where I saw it.

Ricko|
November 25, 2008 at 5:57 pm |

[quote comment=”302133″]”Although, I do get that what you meant was Boston was the only team in the post-Original Six era wearing black until the recent boom.”

Thank you for reading my mind and expressing it.[/quote]

Thereby making the point we’ve been expressing: When too many teams do the same thing to be “unique” it isn’t unique anymore. It’s just…ordinary and unimaginative.

Which brings me to those Twins “things” they’re gonna wear…

Oh, never mind. Too late in the day. LOL

Thomas Clark|
November 25, 2008 at 6:08 pm |

Wish I could provide a link to the statistics but alas they are non-existant. But Jim Abbot supposedly led Flint Schools in season home runs with 6 until 1999 when my teammate at Flint Southwestern Academy broke that record with 9.

Is it possible that those stirrups were numbered not to go with the uniform, but rather with each other, that is they were numbered in pairs? Perhaps the laundry staff did this to make sure they were kept?

Total shift: I was glad to see that Purdue didn’t honor Joe Tiller’s retirement as the Boiler’s winningest coach with anything except by playing better than they had all year, and handing their rival a whippin’

That choice by UT to wear Black Alts in a high profile game in NYC at MSG caused quite a stir.

Those were my first stirrings of Uni-Watchdom.

ChrisN|
November 25, 2008 at 8:56 pm |

Regarding Citi’s sponsorship of the Mets’ new stadium… It occurred to me yesterday that the government missed an opportunity – the government should have gotten the stadium naming rights as a condition of the bailout.

At the very least, the US Treasury should get sponsorship of the “TARP”!

Assuming the caption info was correct, maybe it was an exhibition of some sort? … Baseball Reference shows the Yankees were in the middle of a homestand in June, 1956, as the Reds were coming into town from Philly for a series in Brooklyn. Both the Yanks had Reds had off days on the 21st. Maybe that’s it?

Also, that cathcer doesn’t look like Yogi or Ellie Howard … any ideas who else that might have been?[/quote]
I was wondering that too. What were the Reds and Yankees doing playing each other in June 1956???
I would love to hear more about this.

Assuming the caption info was correct, maybe it was an exhibition of some sort? … Baseball Reference shows the Yankees were in the middle of a homestand in June, 1956, as the Reds were coming into town from Philly for a series in Brooklyn. Both the Yanks had Reds had off days on the 21st. Maybe that’s it?

Also, that cathcer doesn’t look like Yogi or Ellie Howard … any ideas who else that might have been?[/quote]
I was wondering that too. What were the Reds and Yankees doing playing each other in June 1956???
I would love to hear more about this.[/quote]
Scroll up.

Assuming the caption info was correct, maybe it was an exhibition of some sort? … Baseball Reference shows the Yankees were in the middle of a homestand in June, 1956, as the Reds were coming into town from Philly for a series in Brooklyn. Both the Yanks had Reds had off days on the 21st. Maybe that’s it?

Also, that cathcer doesn’t look like Yogi or Ellie Howard … any ideas who else that might have been?[/quote]
I was wondering that too. What were the Reds and Yankees doing playing each other in June 1956???
I would love to hear more about this.[/quote]
Scroll up.[/quote]

indeed…chief inspector pearson and detective weiderecht have cracked the case

Johnny O|
November 25, 2008 at 10:48 pm |

No mention of Oregon’s SoD Maui Invite unis? I have been watching almost the whole game and can’t tell if they have any NOB (but then again I was on the treadmill and didn’t have a very close look). I still have not seen a close up of their shoes yet. Are those Hyper dunks Mr. Powers? I am not too smart when it comes to shoes.

I kind of like the special edition unis. Not terrible. At least they aren’t black with the yellow floral print. Or maybe they will bust those out later, who knows.

Podunk Texas|
November 25, 2008 at 10:51 pm |

Is it me, or are those Leafs throwback jerseys absolutely gorgeous!?! That beautiful blue, those great stripes, the awesome leaf… Flawless design!

Skycat|
November 25, 2008 at 11:14 pm |

[quote comment=”302149″]No mention of Oregon’s SoD Maui Invite unis? I have been watching almost the whole game and can’t tell if they have any NOB (but then again I was on the treadmill and didn’t have a very close look). I still have not seen a close up of their shoes yet. Are those Hyper dunks Mr. Powers? I am not too smart when it comes to shoes.

I kind of like the special edition unis. Not terrible. At least they aren’t black with the yellow floral print. Or maybe they will bust those out later, who knows.[/quote]
Actually Sean McDonough, the play-by-play announcer, mentioned that he didn’t understand why the NOBs were the same color as the jerseys and therefore were unreadable. Bill Raftery, who is doing color for the game demurred and said he thought the white NOBs on the white jerseys were “cool,” but it’s hard to believe he was serious.

LI Phil|
November 25, 2008 at 11:17 pm |

[quote comment=”302149″]No mention of Oregon’s SoD Maui Invite unis? I have been watching almost the whole game and can’t tell if they have any NOB (but then again I was on the treadmill and didn’t have a very close look). I still have not seen a close up of their shoes yet. Are those Hyper dunks Mr. Powers? I am not too smart when it comes to shoes.

I kind of like the special edition unis. Not terrible. At least they aren’t black with the yellow floral print. Or maybe they will bust those out later, who knows.[/quote]

from the ticker:

[quote]The Maui Invitational is currently underway in Hawaii, and here’s some news from Jay Bilas’s ESPN Insider blog (brought to my attention by Doug Simpson): “Oregon expects to be the best-dressed team at the Maui Invitational. The Ducks will be wearing specially made shoes by Nike with Hawaiian print, and the Hawaiian print will also be on the [yellow] trim of the Oregon uniforms. Also wearing the Hawaiian floral print shoes will be Saint Joseph’s, Texas and Alabama.” [/quote]

they won’t be breaking out the black or white unis anymore, after being taken behind the woodshed by NC…both the black and the white unis have NOBs, but they’re ‘invisible’

and yes, those are special edition hyperdunks

Skycat|
November 25, 2008 at 11:38 pm |

[quote comment=”302152″][quote comment=”302149″]No mention of Oregon’s SoD Maui Invite unis? I have been watching almost the whole game and can’t tell if they have any NOB (but then again I was on the treadmill and didn’t have a very close look). I still have not seen a close up of their shoes yet. Are those Hyper dunks Mr. Powers? I am not too smart when it comes to shoes.

I kind of like the special edition unis. Not terrible. At least they aren’t black with the yellow floral print. Or maybe they will bust those out later, who knows.[/quote]

from the ticker:

[quote]The Maui Invitational is currently underway in Hawaii, and here’s some news from Jay Bilas’s ESPN Insider blog (brought to my attention by Doug Simpson): “Oregon expects to be the best-dressed team at the Maui Invitational. The Ducks will be wearing specially made shoes by Nike with Hawaiian print, and the Hawaiian print will also be on the [yellow] trim of the Oregon uniforms. Also wearing the Hawaiian floral print shoes will be Saint Joseph’s, Texas and Alabama.” [/quote]

they won’t be breaking out the black or white unis anymore, after being taken behind the woodshed by NC…both the black and the white unis have NOBs, but they’re ‘invisible’

and yes, those are special edition hyperdunks[/quote]
Sean McDonough, the play-by-play announcer, mentioned that he didn’t understand why the NOBs were the same color as the jerseys and therefore were unreadable. Bill Raftery, who was doing color for the game demurred and said he thought the white NOBs on the white jerseys were “cool,” but it’s hard to believe he was serious.

[quote comment=”302149″]No mention of Oregon’s SoD Maui Invite unis? I have been watching almost the whole game and can’t tell if they have any NOB (but then again I was on the treadmill and didn’t have a very close look). I still have not seen a close up of their shoes yet. Are those Hyper dunks Mr. Powers? I am not too smart when it comes to shoes.

I kind of like the special edition unis. Not terrible. At least they aren’t black with the yellow floral print. Or maybe they will bust those out later, who knows.[/quote]

Hyperdunks, they are.

If you check the ticker, there is a mention as well as some posts regarding them from earlier in the day!

Johnny O|
November 25, 2008 at 11:52 pm |

[quote comment=”302153″][quote comment=”302152″][quote comment=”302149″]No mention of Oregon’s SoD Maui Invite unis? I have been watching almost the whole game and can’t tell if they have any NOB (but then again I was on the treadmill and didn’t have a very close look). I still have not seen a close up of their shoes yet. Are those Hyper dunks Mr. Powers? I am not too smart when it comes to shoes.

I kind of like the special edition unis. Not terrible. At least they aren’t black with the yellow floral print. Or maybe they will bust those out later, who knows.[/quote]

from the ticker:

[quote]The Maui Invitational is currently underway in Hawaii, and here’s some news from Jay Bilas’s ESPN Insider blog (brought to my attention by Doug Simpson): “Oregon expects to be the best-dressed team at the Maui Invitational. The Ducks will be wearing specially made shoes by Nike with Hawaiian print, and the Hawaiian print will also be on the [yellow] trim of the Oregon uniforms. Also wearing the Hawaiian floral print shoes will be Saint Joseph’s, Texas and Alabama.” [/quote]

they won’t be breaking out the black or white unis anymore, after being taken behind the woodshed by NC…both the black and the white unis have NOBs, but they’re ‘invisible’

and yes, those are special edition hyperdunks[/quote]
Sean McDonough, the play-by-play announcer, mentioned that he didn’t understand why the NOBs were the same color as the jerseys and therefore were unreadable. Bill Raftery, who was doing color for the game demurred and said he thought the white NOBs on the white jerseys were “cool,” but it’s hard to believe he was serious.[/quote]

In my original post I meant to question if they will be busting out special edition green unis, not black. Sometimes I type too quick, and it was right after I looked at that pic in the ticker. And I didn’t hear the play-by-play ’cause I was listening to the Rocky theme and the training montage on loop while on the treadmill. Anyone have a close up of the hyperdunks?
Here is a good pic. of the floral pattern:http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/bf5dfc9a-e481-4cd8-aa49-3ac5e4a19833.jpg

Johnny O|
November 25, 2008 at 11:56 pm |

Also, one more note from the Oregon/UNC game. Very briefly before the game started they showed the Oregon team shooting around with some really weird shooting shirts. They looked they t-shirts with palm trees on them and had their “O” in the middle. Anyone have a pic of those?

[quote comment=”302159″]Well, Since the new Bench Coach is stealing my thunder, check this out:[/quote]
First thing I thought when I saw those posts was “Matt Powers has a tan comments box now?” and then I looked at the name and it BLEW MY MIND.

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