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Most recent forum messagesenSat, 13 Jun 2015 18:52:09 GMTJive SBS 4.5.6.0 (http://jivesoftware.com/products/clearspace/)2015-06-13T18:52:09ZenRe: Name this tree/ hedgehttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/66240?tstart=0#66240
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:8e852980-b024-4b70-8baa-19e4feb82018] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>Sorry for delay. Last autumn the hedge produced 2 or 3 sloe berries- so problem is now solved.</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>Kevin</p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:8e852980-b024-4b70-8baa-19e4feb82018] -->Sat, 13 Jun 2015 18:52:09 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/66240?tstart=0#66240Clay2015-06-13T18:52:09Z2 years, 9 months ago0Re: Name this tree/ hedgehttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/50443?tstart=0#50443
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:fbdd470f-90a9-404a-bdee-f61c91c051c2] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>Hi</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>I have not been following this, but&#160; it seems only the fruit will one day give it away</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>I remember as a youngster the pain of&#160; those thorns/spurs&#160; so I will&#160; suggest its a Sloe</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>Steve</p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:fbdd470f-90a9-404a-bdee-f61c91c051c2] -->Fri, 01 Aug 2014 21:12:54 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/50443?tstart=0#50443Steve Jelf2014-08-01T21:12:54Z3 years, 7 months ago0Re: Name this tree/ hedgehttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/50437?tstart=0#50437
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:5d520a60-5e3a-478d-89a6-9fb4ce9daa22] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>Well, keep watching for fruit and, assuming you can identify when it is ripe, see if it is sweet or sour.</p><p>...Or maybe that, too, will be ambiguous!</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">In this case, as an ID, we may be able to do little better than 'Prunus'.</span></p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>Sometimes, mysteries remain unsolved.</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>Cheers,</p><p>Mike</p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:5d520a60-5e3a-478d-89a6-9fb4ce9daa22] -->Fri, 01 Aug 2014 20:21:07 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/50437?tstart=0#50437MikeHardman2014-08-01T20:21:07Z3 years, 7 months ago10Re: Name this tree/ hedgehttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/50432?tstart=0#50432
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:32b4f3e4-c020-42d8-a615-a42a15d3070a] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>Yes definitely have spines and would describe them as 'horrible'- though no cattle in the area it would keep them out as the spines are very sharp.</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>I have identified the other trees with fruits- hazel, oaks and hawthorn etc its a bit annoying as it is the only tree I have not been able to identify on this bridle path. </p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>Regards Kevin</p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:32b4f3e4-c020-42d8-a615-a42a15d3070a] -->Fri, 01 Aug 2014 18:51:03 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/50432?tstart=0#50432Clay2014-08-01T18:51:03Z3 years, 7 months ago20Re: Name this tree/ hedgehttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/50391?tstart=0#50391
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:65cee771-6c7f-468a-adc7-03bbb7ad108c] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>Well that points to blackthorn, though we've noted the leaves on your plant seem a bit large, and the leaves are also not quite right in terms of toothing and overall shape.</p><p>One might be tempted to consider myrobalan plum (larger leaves but flowering only just before/with the leaves), but that is usually spineless, whereas yours has spines You are sure yours has spines? (It can be easy to mis-associate a branch from a neighbouring bush.)</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p><span style="color: #000000; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: #ffffff;">It is a shame we don't have the fruit to taste.</span></p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p><span style="color: #000000; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: #ffffff;">So it is still unclear; but it is probably still somewhere in that spectrum I menioned before.</span></p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p><span style="color: #000000; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: #ffffff;">You mention (Nov 28, 2013 9:46) other trees in the area have fruited. Have you identified those, and are they the same in terms of foliage, etc.?<br/></span></p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>Mike<span style="color: #000000; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: #ffffff;">.</span></p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:65cee771-6c7f-468a-adc7-03bbb7ad108c] -->Fri, 01 Aug 2014 12:27:47 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/50391?tstart=0#50391MikeHardman2014-08-01T12:27:47Z3 years, 7 months ago30Re: Name this tree/ hedgehttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/50388?tstart=0#50388
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:3e94433c-d490-423d-9eda-fe7b20c76da4] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>Yes it did flower before the leaves</p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:3e94433c-d490-423d-9eda-fe7b20c76da4] -->Fri, 01 Aug 2014 11:57:04 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/50388?tstart=0#50388Clay2014-08-01T11:57:04Z3 years, 7 months ago40Re: Name this tree/ hedgehttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/50367?tstart=0#50367
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:90d3934a-2411-4c18-a61b-aa35852bd1bf] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>Hi Kevin,</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>You don't mention if the bloosom preceded the leaves. that would be a good pointer towards blackthorn as you know.</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>'Flowering before the hawthorn' is of mixed use, since there are two common species of hawthorn, flowering at slightly different times covering April-to-June. (Blackthorn woukd normally be in flower March-April, myrobalan plum Feb-April, damson in April.)</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>I'm not sure why it might not be fruiting, as these species have hermaphrodite floiwers (it is not that there are male and female plants, relying on proximity in order to acheive fruit 'set'.)</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>Mike</p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:90d3934a-2411-4c18-a61b-aa35852bd1bf] -->Fri, 01 Aug 2014 07:48:36 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/50367?tstart=0#50367MikeHardman2014-08-01T07:48:36Z3 years, 7 months ago50Re: Name this tree/ hedgehttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/50346?tstart=0#50346
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:9314a146-c9b7-4c07-b5b6-39688a772bab] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>Hi Mike</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>I've been looking at this one again. </p><p>This spring there was a mass of flowers on the hedge which were prior to hawthorns in the area flowering but this hedge still does not have any berrys or fruits. Could it be possible that it is blackthorn that is not going to come into fruit.</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>Regards Kevin</p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:9314a146-c9b7-4c07-b5b6-39688a772bab] -->Thu, 31 Jul 2014 13:43:10 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/50346?tstart=0#50346Clay2014-07-31T13:43:10Z3 years, 7 months ago60Re: Name this tree/ hedgehttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/38886?tstart=0#38886
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:562e0115-e880-4c4a-8f49-ce1367d181a1] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>Hi Clay,</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>Thanks for the update.</p><p>That leans us away from Prunus spinosa (which has smaller leaves).</p><p>The purpleness of the shoots could be misleading. It may lean us towards P. cerasifera var. nigra, but the degree of purple/green can be influenced by factors such as light level (eg. due to shading) and cultivar.</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>So we're not there yet, but perhaps a little closer.</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>Mike</p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:562e0115-e880-4c4a-8f49-ce1367d181a1] -->Thu, 28 Nov 2013 14:11:58 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/38886?tstart=0#38886MikeHardman2013-11-28T14:11:58Z4 years, 3 months ago0Re: Name this tree/ hedgehttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/38882?tstart=0#38882
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:aceb7145-171f-47eb-b3f0-ca0ca7cb7738] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>Good morning Mike</p><p>Unfortunately still not sure what this hedge is. During the year it has not produced any fruit and if my memory serves my right has not produced any in previous years. Other trees in the area have produced abundance this year. A bit of additional information the leaves measure 6cm x 2.5/2.8 cm with a short petiole 0.8cm and have toothed edges. The hedge has purple shoots.</p><p>I would be grateful for any further thought Kevin</p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:aceb7145-171f-47eb-b3f0-ca0ca7cb7738] -->Thu, 28 Nov 2013 09:46:25 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/38882?tstart=0#38882Clay2013-11-28T09:46:25Z4 years, 3 months ago0