why you guy hate Tesla?, i dont understand…
it runs on battery, which can store energy from many source( like solar, wind, vv, not only fossil fuel)
and its auto pilot looks cool and great

A number of reasons:

First, non-fossil-fueled electricity has yet to make any large scale progress. There are small-scale exceptions, but burning fossil fuels, then taking all the distribution losses to charge batteries, is worse for the environment than gasoline powered cars, at least in the US.

Second, Tesla (and SpaceX) are the epitome of crony capitalism. They’ve never made a profit, and exist because of heavy taxpayer subsidies. That puts other green competition at a heavy disadvantage, potentially delaying real progress in clean energy. Most beneficiaries of the this government redistribution are the wealthy who can afford $200K cars (and Elon Musk).

Someday, something will come along that will be a cleaner, sustainable improvement to the internal combustion engine. But it hasn’t yet, and I doubt it will come from Tesla.

why you guy hate Tesla?, i dont understand…
it runs on battery, which can store energy from many source( like solar, wind, vv, not only fossil fuel)
and its auto pilot looks cool and great

I certainly don’t hate Tesla as a car, but the taxpayer’s are funding the first $7k credit from the Feds and more from some States which does bother me. Not to mention Tesla owners don’t pay any road taxes which is collected by cents per gallon at the gas pump. Not sure this company could stand on it’s own without subsidies.

I don’t know where those figures originate, maybe they count cars/trucks (yes, they still predominantly burn gas/diesel here too).
The only use of fossil fuels for production of electricity in Sweden is emergency power, and it is very marginal of the total production.
Check a better source here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_Sweden

The sources on Trending Economics come from the Swedish Government based on gross national product and total energy consumption. So, yes, kind of difficult to build and maintain nuke, solar, hydro, or wind plants without using fossil fuels, not to mention massive number of batteries to store energy. But, Sweden is certainly ahead of most everyone else with clean(er) energy.

Yes out with nuclear its old rubbish! Germany has already turned of most of its NPP but will phase them all out by 2022. France will phase them all out by 25% by 2025 i think? I can understand France even though i do not agree with NPP but seeing as they reprocess so much fuel at Avera they have to use it some where.

Avera is going bankrupt they are being kept alive the French government. Even Toshiba is going broke from nuclear power and Toshiba made such good hard drives but they had to sell that department to pay for its Westinghouse division.

So much fossil fuel energy goes into processing the nuclear fuel its crazy to say it has zero carbon footprint not to mention building the plants them selves is much harder and more complex then a coal power plant.

My big beef with electric cars is, what if I want to drive across country? Where are the charging stations, and how long to I have to wait before I can continue my trip? How long will the batteries last before they need to be replaced? And what will the cost be? The technology is still in it’s infancy stage and I’m not willing to be a guinea pig.
So no, I’ll probably never buy an electric car.

My big beef with electric cars is, what if I want to drive across country? Where are the charging stations, and how long to I have to wait before I can continue my trip? How long will the batteries last before they need to be replaced? And what will the cost be? The technology is still in it’s infantry stage and I’m not willing to be a guinea pig.
So no, I’ll probably never buy an electric car.

why you guy hate Tesla?, i dont understand…
it runs on battery, which can store energy from many source( like solar, wind, vv, not only fossil fuel)
and its auto pilot looks cool and great

A number of reasons:

First, non-fossil-fueled electricity has yet to make any large scale progress. There are small-scale exceptions, but burning fossil fuels, then taking all the distribution losses to charge batteries, is worse for the environment than gasoline powered cars, at least in the US.

Second, Tesla (and SpaceX) are the epitome of crony capitalism. They’ve never made a profit, and exist because of heavy taxpayer subsidies. That puts other green competition at a heavy disadvantage, potentially delaying real progress in clean energy. Most beneficiaries of the this government redistribution are the wealthy who can afford $200K cars (and Elon Musk).

Someday, something will come along that will be a cleaner, sustainable improvement to the internal combustion engine. But it hasn’t yet, and I doubt it will come from Tesla.

Just my $.02

1. Non fossil electricity is starting to make a dent in large scale production so I think you are wrong there, but even if you’re right, you are ignoring the fact that emissions mitigation is much more efficient and easier to maintain and monitor at energy production facilities than it is at the tailpipe of millions of cars. There are losses associated with distribution and charging electric cars, but I don’t believe that they make up all the problems with gasoline car emissions even clean gas cars are not clean compared to what can be done at a power plant, and over time most cars are getting worse and worse, and emissions test standards are very lax. Our system for trying to keep cars running clean is just not very effective.

2. I have no doubt that there is some truth with what you say here about crony capitalism, but you have a couple of misconceptions here as well.. 1. the model three is nowhere near a $200k car, and it’s actually very competitive in price with similar gas cars. 2. Tax incentives are limited in number. For the model 3 all tax incentives are spoken for already if you get on the wait list you will NOT be getting a tax incentive.

3. Electric cars kick ass. We are only starting to see their potential, but we have a luxury sedan here that’s beating down corvettes and Lamborghini. The instant torque available from electric motors is advantage that is nearly impossible for a gas car to overcome. Our future sports cars will have electric drive trains there is no question about that.

It would be very interesting to see an actual poll on this subject here instead of this stupid circle jerk poll btw. Perhaps the creator of the poll is afraid of what response he might get from a real poll.