No way. In the betting there, you have to protect your hand. It would appear that someone has a combo flush/str draw or made hand on the turn... or you're playing 2 donkos. I like the way you played it except for the pre-flop raise OOP with a marginal hand.

#3

12th July 2007, 8:24 AM

Schatzdog [695]

Online Poker at: Party

I think you bet this too hard and that you missed out on potential value.

Both opponents have come with you all the way while you're showing aggression so they want to play. Mongoose is committed so don't worry about that. Assuming he calls any bet you put in there's only another $4.15 he can throw in. So at the point you pushed you're looking at a $27.25 pot. Why overbet so badly? You're only concerned with Striker. At best he has 13 outs with AKs and less if he has a set. He has ~26% chance to hit on the river. Sell him something to call incorrectly with. The all-in is too big for me.

I think if CJStriker is calling a raise at this limit and with the action, he's highly likely to call any raise. The min raise is a weak probe IMO.

#5

12th July 2007, 10:08 AM

AZE [136]

Online Poker at: Full Tilt

Game: Hold 'em

Obviously I posted this thread because I think I made a mistake, I had the absolute nuts by the turn - I think I should have just made a bet that went against the odds for him to call for his flush draw... such as 1/2 the pot. In the long run if he has spades I WANT him to call a raise from me, I just want it to be enough of a raise that in that long run I'm making the most money possible... right?

#6

12th July 2007, 5:04 PM

bw07507 [2,227]

I think I would have done the exact same thing here AZE. At these limits, I bet extremely hard with the nuts, knowing that I dont have to get called as often to make more money. Ive seen players call all ins with garbage and given that he has seen so much interest in this hand, I was surprised he didnt call the shove. There was 27 dollars in the pot when you went all in, I like the play.

Obviously I posted this thread because I think I made a mistake, I had the absolute nuts by the turn - I think I should have just made a bet that went against the odds for him to call for his flush draw... such as 1/2 the pot. In the long run if he has spades I WANT him to call a raise from me, I just want it to be enough of a raise that in that long run I'm making the most money possible... right?

You're right. A small raise should do it so he'll be pot-committed to call your shove on the river. Next!

#9

14th July 2007, 9:25 PM

chatoman [26]

Lets see it another way... if he had two spades.. and he would have made his flush... and then made a value bet on you... would you fold?...

So i guess it was played correctly, defending your hand, and still got the allin from the other guy