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As I have stated on more than one occasion on this website, I would prefer to see officers executing other officers in the face of such wanton corruption, as they would against armed criminals.

That wouldn't do anything about the sources of corruption, only the products. When dishonesty, injustice, and oppression are the problems that are inherent in a system, violence CANNOT solve them, or help anyone who has suffered from them or who perpetuates them.. Only a massive amount of economic, political and social reforms(y'know, like more education/health care/welfare/etc.) could fix anything here, but no, you just want more corpses.

...When a minority is literally committing more crime than the majority, do you expect people NOT to notice that behavior?

Adjust for population @ the bolded. Also, higher poverty rates = higher crime rates, so I'm willing to bet that that any given poor white area such as, oh, some backwater trailer park in the middle of West Virginia can be reasonably compared to, say, Compton.

Why is it, that a black death is somehow more tragic than a white death, when a white person is in fact more likely overall the one to be killed?

Statistically, more white people get killed by cops than black people because there are more white people around in the first place. Again, adjust for population. Also, you're way more likely to get capped if you're black instead of white.

Why is ANY race's death being portrayed as more tragic than any other?

Because every race except for one doesn't get equal/just treatment in life, and in death, many of them are victims of unequal/unjust treatment on a systemic basis. ...Also, even if it were a pissing contest about, heh, which "lives matter" more, what's it to you? Why does it seem like you're playing devil's advocate when there's a situation where black people get treated as victims to be mourned instead of objects to be forgotten about?

Yes and no. They could be conveniently turned off, although that's very suspicious. However, most departments do not have body cams because of funding. Since police are a public service, they are paid by local government. Public services like police, schools, and fire departments usually the first things to get their budgets cut when local government starts budgeting finances.

I like how we equate being imprisoned and punished for a crime in a country that actively racially profiles people while letting others get away either scott free or getting exonerated during the trial(or just simply getting the same old slap on the wrist) with "committing more crimes".

So basically it is only a "crime" if the person is punished by the skewed justice system correct, is that what we are saying because that is what it seems like.

Julia Shields was supposed to be in court Monday morning facing three counts of attempted murder. Instead, she's undergoing a mental evaluation at Moccasin Bend.

Police said she was wearing body armor while pointing her gun and firing at multiple cars last month. Almost a dozen witnesses showed up to testify against her Monday, including Chris Snyder and his 8-year-old son Noah.

How full of shit can you crackers be? Commit more crimes lol, white people just out there casually trying to commit mass murder and getting sent to country club loony bins to be evaluted? I wonder how that figures into these bs crime statistics lol. Got the same dudes that will say that white people get killed more by police while disregarding the whole "proportional" to the total population bs that they love to fall back on with their created by an actual racist "crime statistics".

Dudes like "you on some conspiracy theory shit the lady that made my convenient charts that we talk about all day on stormfront can't be racist, Just the senators, judges, and congressmen that she works with!!"

These cats are about as genuine as Ronald T Ritchie when he made that 911 call.

Yes and no. They could be conveniently turned off, although that's very suspicious. However, most departments do not have body cams because of funding. Since police are a public service, they are paid by local government. Public services like police, schools, and fire departments usually the first things to get their budgets cut when local government starts budgeting finances.

If small police forces can afford military gear such as automatic weapons and tanks, they can all afford body cams.

It's not just budgeting that makes departments hesitant to get body cams, it's the legalities about who can view the evidence it captures. We have similar issues going on here with our cops and body cam rollouts.

For US police, does it interfere with the Fourth Amendment?
How do departments ensure and get held accountable to make sure the footage isn't altered before being offered as evidence against a defendant?
How do police ensure the footage isn't given to the inappropriate parties (journalists, bloggers, other departments, etc)?
Given the cameras will be running 40 hours a week (take an average working week, as an example), and every officer will have one, how is their constant footage going to be reviewed so that they're also being held accountable BEFORE something goes to court?

After that, only then does budgeting become a factor. Then there's the obvious extra costs of storage and permanent security of said footage; extra resourcing and probable outsourcing requirements as well.

I'd imagine smaller departments can afford the cameras easily, but maybe not the extra systems that support them. Still, sell that APV that you never use and put it towards a down payment.

As I have stated on more than one occasion on this website, I would prefer to see officers executing other officers in the face of such wanton corruption, as they would against armed criminals.

That wouldn't do anything about the sources of corruption, only the products. When dishonesty, injustice, and oppression are the problems that are inherent in a system, violence CANNOT solve them, or help anyone who has suffered from them or who perpetuates them.. Only a massive amount of economic, political and social reforms(y'know, like more education/health care/welfare/etc.) could fix anything here, but no, you just want more corpses.

It took years to happen, but I finally took my head out of my ass, which is something that can't be said for the people who I'm arguing against in here. I'm mortified at how long I refused to believe that you just can't punch out injustice/poverty/tyranny/etc. and have them stay gone. ...Better late than never, I guess.

Tulsa County District Attorney Steve Kunzweiler filed the charge less than a week after officer Betty Shelby shot and killed 40-year-old Terence Crutcher on Sept. 16. Kunzweiler said arrangements were being made for Shelby's surrender.

"I do not know why things happen in this world the way they do," Kunzweiler said, adding that he determined first-degree manslaughter the appropriate charge. "We need to pray for wisdom and guidance."

Dashcam and aerial footage of the shooting and its aftermath showed Crutcher walking away from Shelby with his arms in the air. The footage does not offer a clear view of when Shelby fired the single shot that killed Crutcher. Her attorney has said Crutcher was not following police commands and that Shelby opened fire when the man began to reach into his SUV window.

But Crutcher's family immediately discounted that claim, saying the father of four posed no threat to the officers. They also pointed to an enlarged photo from police footage that appears to show Crutcher's window was rolled up. And police said Crutcher did not have gun on him or in his vehicle.

"The tragic circumstances surrounding the death of Mr. Crutcher are on the hearts and minds of many people in this community," Kunzweiler said. "It's important to note that despite the heightened tensions felt by all, which seemingly beg for an emotional response and reaction, our community has consistently demonstrated the willingness to respect the judicial process."

Among the definitions in Oklahoma for first-degree manslaughter is a killing "perpetrated unnecessarily either while resisting an attempt by the person killed to commit a crime, or after such attempt shall have failed."

If convicted, Shelby could face a minimum of four years in prison.

Tulsa Mayor Dewey Bartlett said police worked quickly to provide Kunzweiler with the information he needed to decide whether to charge the officer.

"I appreciate their efforts as well as the District Attorney's usual thorough evaluation of the rules of law for which we are all accountable," Bartlett said in a written statement. "These are important steps to ensure that justice and accountability prevails.

"We will continue to be transparent and ensure the system carries out its responsibility to provide justice."

Shelby, who joined the Tulsa Police Department in December 2011, was en route to a domestic violence call when she encountered Crutcher's vehicle abandoned on a city street, straddling the center line. Shelby did not activate her patrol car's dashboard camera, so no footage exists of what first happened between the two before other officers arrived.

The police footage shows Crutcher approaching the driver's side of the SUV, then more officers walk up and Crutcher appears to lower his hands and place them on the vehicle. A man inside a police helicopter overhead says: "That looks like a bad dude, too. Probably on something."

The officers surround Crutcher and he suddenly drops to the ground. A voice heard on police radio says: "Shots fired!" The officers back away and Crutcher is left unattended on the street for about two minutes before an officer puts on medical gloves and begins to attend to him.

Earlier this year, a former volunteer deputy with the Tulsa County Sheriff's Office was sentenced to four years in prison after he was convicted of second-degree manslaughter in the shooting death of Eric Harris.

Yes and no. They could be conveniently turned off, although that's very suspicious. However, most departments do not have body cams because of funding. Since police are a public service, they are paid by local government. Public services like police, schools, and fire departments usually the first things to get their budgets cut when local government starts budgeting finances.

If small police forces can afford military gear such as automatic weapons and tanks, they can all afford body cams.

I figured that would be brought up, but aren't those automatic weapons and tanks federally funded, not locally funded?

Yes and no. They could be conveniently turned off, although that's very suspicious. However, most departments do not have body cams because of funding. Since police are a public service, they are paid by local government. Public services like police, schools, and fire departments usually the first things to get their budgets cut when local government starts budgeting finances.

If small police forces can afford military gear such as automatic weapons and tanks, they can all afford body cams.

I figured that would be brought up, but aren't those automatic weapons and tanks federally funded, not locally funded?

Yes and no. They could be conveniently turned off, although that's very suspicious. However, most departments do not have body cams because of funding. Since police are a public service, they are paid by local government. Public services like police, schools, and fire departments usually the first things to get their budgets cut when local government starts budgeting finances.

If small police forces can afford military gear such as automatic weapons and tanks, they can all afford body cams.

I figured that would be brought up, but aren't those automatic weapons and tanks federally funded, not locally funded?

Did you read what he wrote? He said with "overtime" and while he may be exaggerating a bit...he's right. Especially if you consider part time gigs that can pay at least $35 per hr.

The median is still 52k, unless all this overtime is magically not reported, or it happens a lot and which should inflate the 52k median, meaning on average a majority of police don't make much money at all.

Yes and no. They could be conveniently turned off, although that's very suspicious. However, most departments do not have body cams because of funding. Since police are a public service, they are paid by local government. Public services like police, schools, and fire departments usually the first things to get their budgets cut when local government starts budgeting finances.

If small police forces can afford military gear such as automatic weapons and tanks, they can all afford body cams.

I figured that would be brought up, but aren't those automatic weapons and tanks federally funded, not locally funded?

Did you read what he wrote? He said with "overtime" and while he may be exaggerating a bit...he's right. Especially if you consider part time gigs that can pay at least $35 per hr.

The median is still 52k, unless all this overtime is magically not reported, or it happens a lot and which should inflate the 52k median, meaning on average a majority of police don't make much money at all.

Part time gigs are not related to your annual salary at all. Most officers get their PT gigs in cash. Overtime works a bit different...but I'm not going to get into that as that varies from county, state and federal agencies.

Just know that you can easily clear 80-100k in law enforcement if you want to

Looks like the officers did nothing to de-escalate the situation. They didn't care if the guy was on medication (according to the video he suffered a traumatic brain injury) or if the guy was handicapped. They'll just say lack of conscience or failure to comply as a justification for using deadly force.

This reminds me of that deaf driver who was shot and killed by police in....North Carolina. The officer said the driver failed to comply with his orders during a routine traffic stop so he shot the driver.

If you don't comply and obey the verbal orders of an officer, the officer will immediately think you're a threat. Boom. Let's ask and answer the questions and figure out if he was handicapped after the victim is dead. Comply or die.

There was an incident here in Hawaii where the family of a mentally ill person called police for assistance. They needed help to calm down the mentally ill family member. The officer ended up shooting and killing the mentally ill person instead of trying to assist the family.

The tape shows that these departments are not training these officers how to effectively de-escalate situations such as dealing with a suspect with pre existing mental complications. What do they do, they just shoot the guy, and this was after said officers were made aware of the man's condition by his wife, who recorded the entire event.

It's things like this that reaffirm my lack of "respect" towards American law enforcement. It is powerless to help the innocent, but infallible when it comes to punishment and mishandling issues.

JACKSON, Ga. (AP) — Authorities on Friday obtained arrest warrants for a Georgia police officer accused of lying about being shot by a suspect.

Jackson police Officer Sherry Hall made a police radio call at 12:08 a.m. on Sept. 13 and said she had been shot, Georgia Bureau of Investigation Special Agent Joe Wooten said in a news conference that was broadcast online. Several officers immediately responded to assist her. Police have previously said she was shot in the abdomen but her bulletproof vest protected her.

During three separate interviews with GBI investigators, Hall said she was shot by a black man near some woods in a cul-de-sac, Wooten said. Hall is white.
Hall told investigators she did not turn on her in-car video and audio recording equipment, but investigators were able to recover evidence from the hard drive of that equipment. That evidence was inconsistent with her statements, and investigators determined she was not a victim of a shooting, Wooten said.

In a subsequent interview, investigators showed the video to Hall and then she stopped cooperating with the investigation, Wooten said.

GBI investigators also discovered that Hall had failed to tell them she had a second department handgun, Wooten said.

Towaliga Judicial Circuit District Attorney Richard Milam said it's important for the community to know there is no shooter on the loose.

"There is no person out there with a gun shooting at our police officers," he said at the news conference. "There is no person out there that needs to be found."

"You can see something in his hand and that he pointed it at an officer."

"That I did not visually see the video."

dafuq

Did the officer really have to use deadly force? I understand that if the officer feels that his or her life is threatened that allows them to use deadly force but did it really have to come to that? According to the police department's side of the story the officers began to speculate something might be wrong because Scott seemed to be rolling up a "blunt." It all started with "oh shit he's rolling up a blunt and it looks like he had a gun. Time to get your guns ready."

Their "probable cause" to arrest Scott on gun and marijuana possession meant de-escalation was thrown out the window. Non-compliance to the officer's verbal commands meant the officers will use their guns.

It doesn't look like Scott pointed his gun at the officers at the time of the shooting. It also looks like he had nothing in his hands when he left the vehicle.

"they are gonna based everything on just one piece of evidence [the video footage], we have to look at all of the evidence. We have interviewed several people at the scene and ALL of the officers were consistent on their stories. So those are facts. That's what we are basing our investigations on."

I genuinely don't know if I should laugh or bang my head against the table.

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just to note how fucking incompetent law enforcement is. Why would the body camera be angled in a position in such a way that when an officer assumes firing position, his head blocks the view. You have to be willfully fucking retarded, or doing that on purpose.