Edgar J. Steele, 64, was charged Friday - the same day the women were to be killed in a car crash meant to look like an accident, according to a probable-cause affidavit.

A confidential witness occasionally employed by Steele met with the FBI Wednesday and told agents Steele would pay him to murder the women.

The witness said Steele had discussed a list of people he wanted dead, including his wife and her mother, six months earlier. The witness agreed to the plot and accepted travel money, court documents say.

According to the affidavit, the witness was supposed to kill the women Friday because Steele had an alibi for that day. So agents concealed a deviceon the informant and recorded Steele planning the murders, the document said.

"The United States magistrate had found probable cause for the offense," said Traci Whelan, an assistant U.S. attorney for Idaho. "As for the timing of the arrest, it was prudent, given he had apparently set a deadline for it."

Steele is well known from his work for hate groups such as the Aryan Nations and other high-profile clients, including the McGuckin family, who held off police during a 2001 Idaho standoff. He's also known for vocal anti-semitic and racist rants on the Internet.

The witness told the FBI Steele paid $500 in cash for travel expenses and promised as much as $25,000 if the murders were completed on Friday. According to the affidavit, Steele promised the witness another $100,000 if an insurance policy paid out after his wife's murder.

"Edgar Steele told (the witness) that he has no second thoughts and he wants the plan carried out," the affidavit said. "This statement was made multiple times during the meet."

According to the affidavit, Steele said he would deny knowing the witness if he were caught, but he would compensate the witness's family if Steele was never implicated.

The motive for the alleged plot is unclear. Whelan said she believes the couple is still married and has not separated. Steele's wife was visiting or helping out with a health care issue at her mother's house in Oregon this week, Whelan said.

Calls to the Oregon house were not immediately returned on Friday.

Whelan said the complaint is just a charging document and is not proof of guilt. Steele will likely appear at a preliminary hearing on Monday, and the case must go before a grand jury, she said. Steele was arrested Friday at his Sagle home.

"Neither the FBI or U.S. Attorney's Office would proceed in a case where we didn't feel there was proof to charge," Whelan said.

Steele is in custody on federal felony charges, she said, but she declined to reveal where he is being held.

According to his website, Steele is an author and trial lawyer who graduated from the University of California, Los Angeles, School of Law and has a law practice that is "noteworthy for cases that test the limits of constitutional law on behalf of politically incorrect clients." The website also says Steele recently considered a run for Idaho governor.

He unsuccessfully defended the Aryan Nations and its founder, Richard Butler, in a multimillion-dollar lawsuit brought against them in 2000. Steele penned the book "Defensive Racism: An Unapologetic Examination of Racial Differences."

Last year, in response to the shooting of a security guard at the national Holocaust Memorial Museum by neo-Nazi James von Brunn, Steele said, "Why did von Brunn choose to unload at the National Holocaust Museum? Because it is an edifice to one of the most stupendous lies of modern times, paid for and maintained with taxpayer dollars, that's why."

I guess he protected his computer and property against the feds putting child porn on his computer, so this is their second option framing technique.

That thought occurred to me also. Edgar Steele is in the position of being officially hated because of who he defends as a lawyer and the ideas he expresses in public. Being officially hated means that you can't contract a murder because there's no contractor who you can safely talk to. Anyone who you ask will instantly calculate that there's more benefit to be had, with less risk, in betraying you than in helping you. That's not just true for an employee; it's also true for a professional killer working for a crime syndicate. He could buy indemnity for some of his own crimes, or for those of his crime bosses, by selling you to the federals.

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"Neither the FBI or U.S. Attorney's Office would proceed in a case where we didn't feel there was proof to charge," Whelan said.

What a whopping big lie. Shaun Walker, Matt Hale, Chester Doles, and lots of others, have been prosecuted on false charges for which all the federal evidence was faked.

"Anyone who you ask will instantly calculate that there's more benefit to be had, with less risk, in betraying you than in helping you."

Do You not think Mr Steele was aware of those odds?

These are simple concepts. We are not dealing with cholos holding up the 7/11 in da hood.

I mean ferchristssake, peeps, I know, You don't like to think about controversial subjects, nad have been watching episodes of the forensic this and that for decades on Your televitz, but try, just try to imagine:

What would You do, if You wanted Your beloved wife to smell the roses from under. And that, from a doode, who has witnessed the (hostile to him)system @ work for a lifetime.

Edgar J. Steele, 64, was charged Friday - the same day the women were to be killed in a car crash meant to look like an accident, according to a probable-cause affidavit.

A confidential witness occasionally employed by Steele met with the FBI Wednesday and told agents Steele would pay him to murder the women.

The witness said Steele had discussed a list of people he wanted dead, including his wife and her mother, six months earlier. The witness agreed to the plot and accepted travel money, court documents say.

According to the affidavit, the witness was supposed to kill the women Friday because Steele had an alibi for that day. So agents concealed a deviceon the informant and recorded Steele planning the murders, the document said.

"The United States magistrate had found probable cause for the offense," said Traci Whelan, an assistant U.S. attorney for Idaho. "As for the timing of the arrest, it was prudent, given he had apparently set a deadline for it."

Steele is well known from his work for hate groups such as the Aryan Nations and other high-profile clients, including the McGuckin family, who held off police during a 2001 Idaho standoff. He's also known for vocal anti-semitic and racist rants on the Internet.

The witness told the FBI Steele paid $500 in cash for travel expenses and promised as much as $25,000 if the murders were completed on Friday. According to the affidavit, Steele promised the witness another $100,000 if an insurance policy paid out after his wife's murder.

"Edgar Steele told (the witness) that he has no second thoughts and he wants the plan carried out," the affidavit said. "This statement was made multiple times during the meet."

According to the affidavit, Steele said he would deny knowing the witness if he were caught, but he would compensate the witness's family if Steele was never implicated.

The motive for the alleged plot is unclear. Whelan said she believes the couple is still married and has not separated. Steele's wife was visiting or helping out with a health care issue at her mother's house in Oregon this week, Whelan said.

Calls to the Oregon house were not immediately returned on Friday.

Whelan said the complaint is just a charging document and is not proof of guilt. Steele will likely appear at a preliminary hearing on Monday, and the case must go before a grand jury, she said. Steele was arrested Friday at his Sagle home.

"Neither the FBI or U.S. Attorney's Office would proceed in a case where we didn't feel there was proof to charge," Whelan said.

Steele is in custody on federal felony charges, she said, but she declined to reveal where he is being held.

According to his website, Steele is an author and trial lawyer who graduated from the University of California, Los Angeles, School of Law and has a law practice that is "noteworthy for cases that test the limits of constitutional law on behalf of politically incorrect clients." The website also says Steele recently considered a run for Idaho governor.

He unsuccessfully defended the Aryan Nations and its founder, Richard Butler, in a multimillion-dollar lawsuit brought against them in 2000. Steele penned the book "Defensive Racism: An Unapologetic Examination of Racial Differences."

Last year, in response to the shooting of a security guard at the national Holocaust Memorial Museum by neo-Nazi James von Brunn, Steele said, "Why did von Brunn choose to unload at the National Holocaust Museum? Because it is an edifice to one of the most stupendous lies of modern times, paid for and maintained with taxpayer dollars, that's why."

If they have tape of him, then he is up shit creek. If they have no-tape and it is word against word, then he is still up shit creek because of his views I.E. Matt Hale.
BTW anyone remember that thing called "Entrapment"? Seems to be a forgotten law.

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"Of course, in view of my silence over the past several months, only partially imposed upon me by unexpected medical "events" (I call it "My Year of Living Surgically"), it wouldn't take much to step up the pace, I suppose. You will see, though. Long-time fans will be pleased to see me returning to the form that I set aside quite some time ago in an attempt to appeal to a broader audience. I am back and I am really, truly pissed."- Edgar Steele, May 21, 2010 -- http://www.nickelrant.com/rants/100521rant.htm

A Vietnam-era-- long before PhotoShop, CIA photographer told me, in the early 80's-- also before PhotoShop, that he could have created a convincing photo (shadows and perspective right, etc.) of me doing anything those wanting to get rid of me would have wanted to have a picture of me doing. The CIA, by the way, are the President's homeland and away team. Remember Vince Foster being found across the street from CIA headquarters at Ft. Marcy Park, where it obviously-- obvious at least after an FBI forensic team literally screened the soil in the park-- had been transported?

How does that oath of office about protecting the Constitution go, "against all enemies both foreign and domestic?"

And, by the way, the sanction for a U.S. agent to go anywhere in the world to whack someone deemed a threat to national security is nothing new under the Obama administration. What's new is saying it aloud in public. Ian Fleming and others wrote about it for years. Many of the exceptionally skilled former military, who were obviously willing (Many/most infantry shoot over the enemy's heads), out there, have been contacted by recruiters who were quite explicit: I guarantee that it is not that exclusive of a club.

But consider that what matters for the probable cause statement is not the recording but the witness affidavit. There's a reason that those conducting a surveillance are listening to telephone calls in real time, having an undercover guy "wear a wire" rather than a recorder, etc. Its about someone who can actually testify that something happened.

Photo, audio, and increasingly video evidence is suspect to all but consumers of the so called mass media of news who swallow as voraciously as a largemouth hitting a fast-moving plug. It takes quite a bit to disgorge such hooks. It is from such pools that prosecutors angle for jurors.

That said, little surprises me, these days. I'll take that back: The dreams and even waking thoughts I had after heart surgery that I was told was normal and included "labile emotions," surprised me such that I immediately stopped taking even required aspirin.Had my mother-in-law still been around, rest her soul, I might have shared some dark thoughts that could have been rearranged by my editors.

Furthermore, I've yet to meet an attorney I trust absolutely. And worse, Ed admits coming out of a Seventh-day Adventist (SDA) background, recovering as it were, as did the Branch Davidian Seventh-day Adventists, which might as well be Jews theologically and some of them racially, e.g., SDA darling theologian, also a racial Jew, Clifford Goldstein. I might add that the craziest, most ruthless supremacists I've ever met, were SDA.

A holier-than-thou multi-generational Adventist I thought I knew ended-up an accessory to an attempted murder and then suborned perjury in another probably related murder trial and has spent her life both before and afterward trying to convince everyone she knew that she was a saint herself. She was/is as sick as anyone I've even met. I'd never heard of the SDA religion before. Her mother was a mess and her father wasn't around when she was growing up and it made her man-crazy to the point she's committed multiple felonies. And thanks to a lifetime of brainwashing her arguably adult daughter is now a third world SDA missionary. As a juror, I could entertain how someone deciding to kill her mother timely might not have seemed so much like murder but preventative pest control. I mean, they shoot horses, don't they?

Hopefully the wife and mother weren't dyed-in-the-wool SDA or he's going to have an uphill battle-- those two now being at least maybe suspicious of him and ready to turn state's evidence for God knows what they know about him. But, from what little I know other than his remarkable writing and thinking, I'm betting he's as innocent of the actual elements of murder for hire as its possible to be.

And Steele is clearly a potential threat not only to lawyers & judges, but the Mormons, probably the Adventists, and certainly Jews and Israel, not to mention "national security." Hopefully we're not going to oblige our enemies by starting to eat one of those apparently our own here. Americans are silent in the face of piracy in the service of Israeli genocide, which shows you the times.

As I write at 5pm on Monday, May 31, all day has passed since the early morning reports of the Israeli commando attack on the unarmed ships carrying humanitarian aid to Gaza, and there has been no response from President Obama except to say that he needed to learn "all the facts about this morning's tragic events" and that Israeli prime minister Netanyahu had canceled his plans to meet with him at the White House.

Thus has Obama made America complicit once again in Israel's barbaric war crimes. Just as the US Congress voted to deep-six Judge Goldstone's report on Israel's war crimes committed in Israel's January 2009 invasion of Gaza, Obama has deep-sixed Israel's latest act of barbarism by pretending that he doesn't know what has happened.

No one in the world will believe that Israel attacked ships in international waters carrying Israeli citizens, a Nobel Laureate, elected politicians, and noted humanitarians bringing medicines and building materials to Palestinians in Gaza, who have been living in the rubble of their homes without repairs or medicines since January 2009, without first clearing the crime with its American protector. Without America's protection, Israel, a totally artificial state, could not exist.

No one in the world will believe that America's spy apparatus did not detect the movement of the Israeli attack force toward the aid ships in international waters in an act of piracy, killing 20, wounding 50, and kidnapping the rest.

Obama's pretense at ignorance confirms his complicity.

Once again the US government has permitted the Israeli state to murder good people known for their moral conscience. The Israeli state has declared that anyone with a moral conscience is an enemy of Israel, and every American president except Eisenhower and Carter has agreed.

Obama's 12-hour silence in the face of extreme barbarity is his signal to the controlled corporate media to remain on the sidelines until Israeli propaganda sets the story.

The Israeli story, preposterous as always, is that the humanitarians on one of the ships took two pistols from Israeli commandos, highly trained troops armed with automatic weapons, and fired on the attack force. The Israeli government claims that the commandos' response (70 casualties at last reporting) was justified self-defense. Israel was innocent. Israel did not do anything except drop commandos aboard from helicopters in order to intercept an arms shipment to Gazans being brought in by ships manned by terrorists.

Many Christian evangelicals, brainwashed by their pastors that it is God's will for Americans to protect Israel, will believe the Israeli story, especially when it is unlikely they will ever hear any other. Conservative Americans, especially on Memorial Day when they are celebrating feats of American arms, will admire Israel for its toughness.Here in north Georgia where I am at the moment, I have heard several say, admiringly, "Them, Israelis, they don't put up with nuthin."

Conservative Americans want the US to be like Israel. They do not understand why the US doesn't stop pissing around after nine years and just go ahead and defeat the Taliban in Afghanistan. They don't understand why the US didn't defeat whoever was opposing American forces in Iraq. Conservatives are incensed that America had to "win" the war by buying off the Iraqis and putting them on the US payroll.

Israel murders people and then blames its victims. This appeals to American conservatives, who want the US to do the same.

It is likely that Americans will accept Israeli propagandist Mark Regev's story that Israelis were met by deadly fire when they tried to intercept an arms shipment to Palestinian terrorists from IHH, a radical Turkish Islamist organization hiding under the cover of humanitarian aid. This explanation is crafted to allow Americans to sink back into their stupor.

Americans will never hear from the US media that Turkey's prime minister Erdogan declared that the aid ships were carefully inspected before departure from Turkey and that there were no terrorists or arms aboard:"I want to say to the world, to the heads of state and the governments, that these boats that left from Turkey and other countries were checked in a strict way under the framework of the rules of international navigation and were only loaded with humanitarian aid."

Turkey is a US ally, a member of NATO. Turkey's cooperation is important to American's plan for world hegemony. Turkey now realizes that the Israeli state is comprised of total evil. Erdogan must wonder about the morality of Israel's American protector. According to a report in antiwar.com, the Turkish government declared that "future aid ships will be dispatched with a military escort so as to prevent future Israeli attacks."

Will the CIA assassinate Erdogan or pay the Turkish military to overthrow him?

Murat Mercan, head of Turkey's foreign relations committee, said that Israel's claim that there were terrorists aboard the aid ships was Israel's way of covering up its crime. Mercan declared:"Any allegation that the members of this ship is attached to al-Qaeda is a big lie because there are Israeli civilians, Israeli authorities, Israeli parliamentarians on board the ship."

The criminal Israeli state does not deny its act of piracy. Israeli military spokeswoman, Avital Leibovich, confirmed that the attack took place in international waters: "This happened in waters outside of Israeli territory, but we have the right to defend ourselves."

Americans, and their Western European puppet states and the puppet state in Canada, will be persuaded by the servile media to buy the story fabricated by Israeli propaganda that the humanitarian aid ships were manned by terrorists bringing weapons to the Palestinians in Gaza, and that the terrorists posing as humanitarians attacked the force of Israeli commandos with two pistols, clubs, and knives.

The ignorant Americans will swallow this story without a hiccup.

Paul Craig Roberts has had careers in scholarship and academia, public service, and journalism. He served in the Congressional staff and as Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration. From 1971 until 2004 he was associated with the Hoover Institution, Stanford University. A former editor and columnist for The Wall Street Journal and columnist for Business Week and the Scripps Howard News Service, he was a nationally syndicated columnist for Creators Syndicate in Los Angeles.Global Research Articles by Paul Craig Roberts

While Steele had a close brush with death, his ruptured aneurysm was completely repaired and he was as good as new. All of his writings have talked about a good family life. It is hard to believe that with his legal training that he would be dumb enough to get involved in anything like this.

During his trial, you did and said nothing that actually assisted him.

You don't have to persuade us, you have to persuade Steele, the family, judge, prosecutor and defence.
Make your case to them, not to us.

If a judge agrees with you, Steele will be sent to a state institution, and examined by a Jew, who will decide if he should be put indefinitely into a Jewish run, taxpayer funded mental institution or not.
They can give him one injection, and he will be utterly insane for ever.

None of your posts, threads, arguments, examples on VNN mean anything at all to Steele or his case, as none assist him in real life.

We should view this neutrally, with the assumption of innocent until proven guilty.
If folks want to help Steele, buy some of his books and pass them on, and be at the trial.

The most suspicious thing is that there does not appear to be a progression of events leading up to this. Almost always there is a pattern, and a clear progression of events.

Usually the path goes from accumulated stressful incidents to usually substance abuse/arguments to beatings then on to extreme violence/murder.

There would normally be a history of neighbours complaining, police visits to the place, wife staying away, doctor/hospital records of assaults etc.

The kids would often have been intimidated/beaten/threatened, stress would usually be clearly visible, along with attitude and especially weight problems amongst his daughters, his son would be constantly getting into trouble etc.

In other words, these things normally build up over a long period of time, with clear signs along the way.

None of this appears to have been mentioned when they charged him, which is most unusual, as its the first thing the police check up on and the first thing they state in bail applications.

The second suspicious thing is why two pipe bombs would have been planted, in a case which was supposed to look like an accident.

Pipe bombs are not that difficult to disarm, and use as evidence.
If they were armed at all that is, and not simply empty outer casings.
In this case, the evidence has conveniently been destroyed.

Faking a voice is far too risky for the police to do.
Modern technology would pick up immediately that it was fake.

Additionally, there's a lack of motivation.
Had Steele say in a rage struck her or beaten her and by so doing attempted to kill her yes that could be quite possible, but coldbloodedly planning a murder is not at all the same thing as an emotional act.

People don't usually murder their spouses because the murderer is having an affair, usually the murderer kills the spouse who was off having an affair.

It requires some other motivation.

Steel is no spring chicken, clearly not motivated by money, clearly loved his family, and as a lawyer would not face the financial difficulties other folks would face getting a reasonable settlement.

There would be nothing stopping a divorce or separation.

Means is doubtful, method is doubtful, motivation appears non-existent.
There is no apparent history that would indicate such a thing, and no apparent benefit in the future.

Pipe bombs are not that difficult to disarm, and use as evidence.
If they were armed at all that is, and not simply empty outer casings.
In this case, the evidence has conveniently been destroyed.

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I suggest the idiots who arrived out of no where be deleted post hast along with their subversive like mental case posting's IMO.

It is a fact the P.C. Red Guard enforcer/media types are in power/government and want to crush any White rights group or individual that would dare to try in any way call for unity or stop our own displacement by open borders criminally flooding the US with a Hostile Non-Whites invasion IMO.

The regime does not want any one with prestige speaking against their Marxist lies.

Any church, organization, man or women who speaks against the regime finds out fast they have No Fourth Amendment Rights.

Thank you.

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Isn't it strange that we talk least about the things we think about most?

We cannot allow the natural passions and prejudices of other peoples
to lead our country to destruction.

If they have tape of him, then he is up shit creek. If they have no-tape and it is word against word, then he is still up shit creek because of his views I.E. Matt Hale.
BTW anyone remember that thing called "Entrapment"? Seems to be a forgotten law.

I think that, with his recent column stating his "return" to full-scale pro-White antisemitism, some ADL-friendly jew became a "hit man" and got him popped. I can't imagine for a moment that, if his marriage were on the rocks, he wouldn't just walk away from it, especially at age 64 and in iffy health.

Of course, in the Looking-glass world of contemporary "law enforcement" by the people who brought us Ruby Ridge, Waco and the Murrah Bldg., he can be charged, held and tried on the flimsiest of evidence, and locked away to rot.

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The question is are Idaho FBI that easily corruptible? If so, then what is wrong with the minds of those people?
I know that Steele was becoming more critical of the Mormon Church in his later years and much of Idaho is Mormon country, just speculation. But it's really hard to believe Steele would do that!

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"Speak what you think now in hard words and tomorrow speak what tomorrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said today."
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What one would do is meaningless.
What matters is in real life is what actually gets done.

WN has not been swindled, wives and children get dragged into it against their will most of the time, and suffer terribly because of it. She like him would not have been able to get any decent work, due to his activities. His children will forever suffer for his activities. He is not the victim here, they are.

They have made huge sacrifices over their lives and Cindy has every right to half of their joint estate in the eyes of any court. 100k is not money, its small change over a lifetime, and that won't keep a family for 3 years.0

He chose his little Ukranian honey over her, so Cindy has no further obligations to him.

He must now look to his Ukranian babe, and Cindy and family now need to rearrange their lives, and salvage what they can.

These are serious times for them, and they do not need 2000 plus posts from you insulting and trashing them daily.

A man who sacrifices his family is not a loving husband, nor a loving father. He was also unfaithful to her several times.