Hehe, I will try to die less now.And also, yeah, here the word "Larga" means "Long" (when refering to something feminine)and. Syllabazing the words? sorry but what does that mean? heheand about the dog club thing... yeah, I thought that it could sound too generic just to make it like that, but due to space issues and the fact that "Club de los buenos perros" sounds kind of weird in Spanish, and can have some weird meanings too.and I finally solved that of the cat-lover thing, first I have to say that the last page was the most difficult and tricky to translate, partly because I translated Cat-lover as "Gustarle las gatas" (to romantically like female cats) so it always changes depending on who says it and things like that...that's why in the last panel everythig seems so different from the English original.

Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:28 pm

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Re: Spanish translation

lopiko wrote:

Syllabazing the words? sorry but what does that mean? hehe

Is something like this, when you ran out of space you cut the words like this

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"Club de los buenos perros"

more like "club de los perros gay"thats the meaning i give it in spanish.

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Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:39 pm

valerio

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Re: Spanish translation

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and about the dog club thing... yeah, I thought that it could sound too generic just to make it like that, but due to space issues and the fact that "Club de los buenos perros" sounds kind of weird in Spanish, and can have some weird meanings too.

right, hadn't considered that aspect.why not try with club de los fiel perros? It's closer to the english 'good old dogs' and, hopefully, not...ambiguous...

I thought about it, and "Hembra" sounds kind of awkward, seeing that's the way you talk about unsentient animals.But I don't know, maybe it could be used...

Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:39 am

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Re: Spanish translation

"Mujer" doesnt fit because its like you are talking to a human.

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Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:05 pm

Ebly

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Re: Spanish translation

So wait, sorry, having no Spanish background i'm going to make a bunch of assumptions and you'll look at me like an idiot.Okay not really.

I'm assuming mujer refers specifically to a human, while hembra refers specifically to..? Cats, animals, gender in general? Is there a word for gender in general?If there's a word for gender in general, it's probably best to use that, right? If it's between a word that makes them seem more human or a word that makes them seem more like non-sentient animals, I would recommend the word that makes them seem more like animals, because in the context of the comic, that's what they are. They're not anthropomorphic half-man-half-animal things. They're animals. Isn't this comic more of a parallel to reality than a whole other one? Anyway, that's just my opinion on it and it really doesn't matter except for people who speak Spanish and want to read this comic in Spanish. 8D

Well, I had to stick to a Human gender word because of the lack of a general gender word (like male and female) but yeah, I thought it would be awkward to use a word like that in the context of sentient animals, but I guess that can change.

Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:55 am

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Re: Spanish translation

If you are going to do that, so change it to "chica", that fits more i guess.

Of all the translation projects going on, I think this one should remain top priority, since Spanish is the second-most spoken language in the world (the first being Mandarin Chinese, but since I haven't seen anybody here from the PRC that likely isn't going to happen).

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Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:36 pm

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Re: Spanish translation

I agree.So far Lopiko has done a great job, I can't wait to see how the limmericks and that part when Peanut recites a poem to Grape are gonna come up.

Although I don't understand why he didn't translate the names of both Peanut and Grape...

Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:59 pm

Ebly

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Re: Spanish translation

what i don't understand is why nobody else is taking this upsomeone's bound to know spanish, right? right?

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Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:02 am

valerio

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Re: Spanish translation

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Although I don't understand why he didn't translate the names of both Peanut and Grape...

Any way, they are not even cool as 'Peanut' and 'Grape', not to mention that the other pets' names should be translated at this point. And each translated name would sound SOOOO awkward, since each culture christens their pets according to their customs. For example, in Italy I *never* heard a dog named 'Nocciolina', no way! And that cutie we know as King? We use a lot the name 'Rex', which is its equivalent in latin, but never a dog has been named 'Re'.

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Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:35 am

Sinder

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Re: Spanish translation

... but then what do you call Rex?

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Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:39 am

valerio

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Re: Spanish translation

Sinder wrote:

... but then what do you call Rex?

Ouch.

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Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:03 am

UndyingEmber

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Re: Spanish translation

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Any way, they are not even cool as 'Peanut' and 'Grape', not to mention that the other pets' names should be translated at this point. And each translated name would sound SOOOO awkward, since each culture christens their pets according to their customs.

Well it is common for people who speak spanish to name their pets after things or food, like "Dona" (donut) or "Canela" (cinnamon) and they sound fine, so I don't think it sounds odd to call Peanut, for example, "Mani" or Grape, "Uva".

What it IS odd is to speak spanish and call your pet by a name in english.Then again, this can only by applied in Mexico... I don't know if it isn't in the rest of South America or Spain.

Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:11 am

Ebly

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Re: Spanish translation

The basic idea in all translations is that proper nouns are international and thus stay the same. If they were talking about grapes and peanuts, well sure, translate that, but Grape is her name. Even if it doesn't necessarily have any meaning in other languages, it's not like there's bean any name puns in the comic's actual script. Yet.

But still, all those names sound completely ridiculous and I doubt that anybody would use such names for pets in my country. I always hate when somebody translates names literally, like one unnamed TV station does with films (it actually modifies the somewhat good translation and translates all names literally and removes all puns or interesting sentences - why they do that, when the film is already translated by someone who actually likes films in general, instead of somebody who obviously didn't even see the film he's translating...), because in most cases, it tears your ears as well as the part of brain responsible for the auditory system. If they at least made up different, better sounding name, but I don't think they should be translated at all. However, there's a small problem - (at least in czech) non-english speaking people will pronounce these words (Peanut, Grape) differently, so they would sound weird, but that happens all the time with english names, that people never heard of pronounced (books, names of games and such).

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