Told a girl im dating about the game, she wants to know more?

I was dating a girl last night, we where in a conversation about one of her girlfriends. We where both talking about how much she mentions her BF. I mentioned that my friend/occasional wingman where going to try a boyfriend destroyer on her to see her reaction etc.

She thought it was hilarious. When she asked I told her that there was a book that told me about it etc, trying not to get into too much detail.

This morning in my bed (brag) she starts asking some questions about it.

How much should I tell her? or just keep changing the subject when its mentioned? Is there anyway I could use this to my advantage?

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I don't really bring up much of my own experience on here, but for this I will. I have this theory that if a woman I'm seeing knows about what I do, she will understand and we will click on a much deeper level. For the past few years I have told a good amount of women about it. They find it very interesting and want to know more. If things go well and you want to make it an LTR .....what usually happens is they start to resent you. They know the techniques and think you are always "messing with their minds" and it becomes really ugly.

This is actually why I joined the forum. It actually got so bad that my close friends and even some of my own family thought that I was using techniques on them. That all of my actions were scripted and not genuine. Being a PUA going solo these past few years can be a bit frustrating because you start to realize that no one will really understand you unless they already do. I needed an outlet so I came to the forum a couple of weeks ago. I'm sort of a PUA in hiding while I told everyone in my life that I quit PUA. They don't understand that this stuff you really can't quit, but if they believe me, then that's fine with me.

This is just my personal experience and I am still occasionally stubborn enough to believe that at least one woman will take it with a good mindset. Telling them about it is still ok, but not too much especially if you feel you can be serious with the woman. Because I can guarantee she will resent you for it.

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Originally Posted by BatMan

I have this theory that if a woman I'm seeing knows about what I do, she will understand and we will click on a much deeper level.

Yes.

Originally Posted by BatMan

If things go well and you want to make it an LTR .....what usually happens is they start to resent you. They know the techniques and think you are always "messing with their minds" and it becomes really ugly.

Maybe the stupid ones.

Originally Posted by BatMan

I am still occasionally stubborn enough to believe that at least one woman will take it with a good mindset.

Good.

Look, I don't usually care enough to flip sh1t about something on The Forums, but this is too important not too. Every guy on here needs to hear this, and it's not a personal attack on you BatMan. It's just finally putting a flame to the gasoline that was eventually going to blow up anyway.

You all need to stop hiding that you are a PUA. Some of you guys are so scared of being "found out" that you aren't even willing to put your first name on here, let alone your location. It's not a big deal! It's not all about learning to get laid! We are a group of men interested in helping one another with our own self-help! What kind of woman DOESN'T want that? A man trying to better himself?

If you need to LIE to women in order to get into their pants, you're a pretty sh1tty PUA to begin with. "Yes, I am a PUA. If you aren't okay with that then I don't want to spend time with you anyway." At AFC Adam's peak he had 14 GIRLFRIENDS!!!!! You want to know how? THEY ALL KNEW ABOUT EACH OTHER.

Bill Preston
Adam Lyons
David DeAngelo
David Wygant
Owek Cook

The list goes on fellas. Those are some of the best PUAs out there, and they're the best because they aren't hidingANYTHING. Man up. Alphas don't hide.

I'm sorry to hear about your situation BatMan. I've had that reaction before, and if all you run is routine game then they have all the reason to think that way. Transcend that. Be who you are. Never hide.

The Game itself is high risk. The Best will tell you that. When you sign up, your life will (AND SHOULD) change. You will lose some of your best friends. You'll get new, better ones. Your family won't understand. They'll get over it.

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Lol not sure what you mean by routine game....
You have a good point OneThousand. I don't think anyone should completely hide what we study.... But to each his own. I've gone through enough to know that no matter how you shape it, no one likes to be consciously manipulated. It feels artificial to them. So feel free to tell them about Openers and DHVing. They may even love it. They always find it interesting......at first.

Then comes the LTR.......and she finds out things like when she "misbehaves" we use a freeze out to punish them. Or we compliance test them to get them further invested into us. I'm sure you can imagine what that must make them feel. And I am more concerned about how I am making a woman feel, which is safe. When she gets deeper into understanding these techniques she will not feel safe with you and start to slowly, but surely see you as an enemy who likes to play mind games to get her to behave.

I think it a rare thing for any woman to take it any other way than the way I have just explained. No one likes to feel controlled. But hey, this is life and it's meant to be experienced. If you found a woman that accepts this then great. But my experience with women over the last few years have proven that some just do not want to know something like that. They think it's a fun little hobbie that some guys do, then they find out how deep it goes and how the really good ones are not just guys that do pickup, they ARE pickup. After that they feel like everything we do is scripted (which is true since we have trained and burned these techniques into our subconscious). So my suggestion is be open with that you are a pickup artist, but tread carefully when it comes to explaining what the techniques are.

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Routine Game. Canned material. Stuff that you take word for word from here and use it word for word on women. Basically sh1t that takes away the fact that she is a human being. Where you don't care about what she's going to say back because you have the next thing planned in your head. When you don't listen to her. The way Neil describes Papa and TD in The Game. Granted they have grown exponentially since then. If you're that.. well, like you said. To each their own.

Like I said, I'm really not trying to be a d1ck, just honest because I seriously care. Do you screen women? Are you selective in your qualification? Do you game/date dumb women? Because I don't. Women with high IQ's understand what we are doing, and not only that, THEY ARE OKAY WITH IT. Listen to David X, because if women have a problem with our "manipulation" say you have a problem with:

and the list goes on. But women aren't going to do that unless they're stupid. If either of the sexes know psychological warfare it's women. Our default is physical violence. Theirs is to fark with people's minds.

We use compliance tests because women want us to use compliance tests. If they were the iniators we wouldn't have even created the idea. Actually, we wouldn't even have this website. A freeze out to beat LMR just means, "I want to have sex. If you don't, we don't get to cuddle. That's not fair and it's not how I work." We condition women according to Freudian psychology because they do it to us to.

Any woman with an ounce of sense gets it--which sadly isn't enough women as you have pointed out. If you game those women [and I'm not judging if you do] then you're right. It's better left unsaid and I'd do the same thing too. But David X's wife, AFC Adams's wife, and the multiple girls that attend Sasha's seminars? They are smart, and those are the kind of women I would want to surround myself with. The ones who are logical and reasonable enough that I can be completely open with them.

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I've noticed that telling people about game who aren't ready to hear about game usually ends poorly for myself. I've mostly tried this on guys and based on their reactions, I wouldn't even think about telling a girl.

Re: Told a girl im dating about the game, she wants to know more?

Originally Posted by mr.onethousand

. Women with high IQ's understand what we are doing, and not only that, THEY ARE OKAY WITH IT.

100% agree. When I was younger I was never ever called a playboy but then in my late 20's and early 30's I became very good at picking up girls. A lot of girls would call me out as a playboy or ask me unsurely if I was one. I would always say 'yes I'm a bit of a playboy, would you prefer a lonely loser on the sidelines?? I'm a good man, but yes I play the game so I am a playboy. If I didnt play the game I would not be here with you right now. Lets kiss'. They were all ok with it and it made many try much harder with me because they understood the competition and my confidence that I am going to succeed no matter what. I was often asked 'how many girlfriends I had' rather than just 'do you have a girlfriend'. Again I would make no excuses 'Im single, Im dating, Im meeting interesting people, but don't have any one serious love yet (allowing them the challenge of trying to become that serious person).

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I like the idea of simply telling her what you do, but don't do it to validate yourself to her. Do it because you don't want to hide. If you tell her it because you want to show her what a stud you are, your going to come of as a attention seeker.