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评论来自 CrimsonTemplar

Wowhead news post said this only shows up on Heroic mode Firelands bosses. If this the equivalent of primordial saronite then those new crafted epics are going to cost some serious coin. What I find interesting is that Dragonwrath and a lot of the crafted epics that have been datamined require Living Ember.

What these might be used for is to either upgrade crafted epics to a heroic iLevel or for new Heroic iLevel crafted epics. Either would be cool, tho the fact that they're BOP makes it seem like new heroic patterns is more likely

评论来自 Alisarian

And I think that this one could be T12 equivalent for Essence of the Forlorn and you will be able to buy T12 heroic version set pieces with this.

But again - it's just my speculation :oD.

评论来自 Fizzles

It's used for evolving your Eevee into Flareon.

评论来自 Eeza

Just because of the sheer number of Living Embers needed to make regular epics, I would not equate them Primordial Saronite at all. I am much more inclined to think that Crystallized Firestone will the the new Primordial Saronite, and not the new Essence of the Forlorn, because none of the other T12 tokens have been added to the loot tables yet.

评论来自 TheMuffinMan

Or your Growlithe into an Arcanine, if you favor USEFUL fire-dogs.

评论来自 itsnotemy

It appears these are going to be used to upgrade iLVL 378 Valor Point gear into an iLVL 391 heroic version as recent datamining shows 391 versions of VP gear. The firestone only drops from the heroic bosses.

What this means:

Most if not ALL VP gear will be your BiS gear excluding Heroic Rag drops. Since Firelands is only 7 bosses, this means a smaller loot table. So the iLVL 391 version of say the VP bracers is more than likely the BiS. My guess is the gear from VP is your only source for that particular item for this tier i.e. Wands, Bracers, Rings, Necks and that the remaining slots are spread out among the Firelands bosses.

This could all change but overall I like this change as it also means 391 iLVL relics!

评论来自 200272

That's an interesting idea, but keep in mind that just because a heroic version of an item is datamined doesn't mean it'll be available. Case in point: BWD/BoT-tier BoE epics.

Also, shaping epic gear even MORE towards valor points would earn a heartfelt "bleh" from me.

评论来自 Syncness

I think some of these stones were used on Growlithes; there's twoArcanines in Firelands

评论来自 818831

For those who are wondering Yes these only drop on heroic and are the equivalant to the shards that were required to make the legendary weapon from Ulduar or Shadowmourn from ICC which means unless someone in your group is actually on that part in the chain you won't even see then drop.

There for casual guild won't be able to actually finish the entire quest chain and will probibly have to settle with an incomplete weapon like alot of people had to do with Shadowmourne

评论来自 Alisarian

Correct and wrong.

This item really drops from Heroic modes only but it has nothing to do with legendary. You will use this to upgrade your 378 ilvl item to 391 ilvl item (my previous guess was almost correct :oP).

And for those who wonder - "shards" for completing legandary are Seething Cinder.

评论来自 Rainemard

Edit: Beat me to it. Yes, it took me 15 minutes for one sentence... I got sidetracked looking at the Legendary questline. =p

评论来自 synackk

Yay, Blizzard finally listened and gave us heroic relics. I had posted about this a while ago on the official Dungeons and Raids forum and they finally delivered.

Thank you Blizz!

评论来自 Almightree

This is similar to 北伐奖章 in that it will be used to upgrade the regular Valor Point and Firelands epics such as Relics, Wands, Ranged, and other weapons as well as some select armor pieces. There is a preliminary list here

评论来自 Thunerflick

These are used to upgrade your normal 378 items into heroic items

评论来自 Eeza

Confirmed, only drops from heroic Firelands bosses and is used to upgrade your thrown/relic/wand and BoE trash epics to their heroic versions.

评论来自 15639

How many of these seem to boss per drop on 10 and 25 mans?

评论来自 Joejr82

This is used to upgrade 378 items to their heroic version. Awesome job Blizzard!

Lets hope they keep this up in future raids!

评论来自 838930

id think chance of 1 on 10m and 3 or 4 on 25man

评论来自 s1lver

Is it going to upgrade only VP items?Or it could upgrade boss drop? (as it stated on mmo-champion)

评论来自 844071

The Crystallized Firestone can be used to upgrade the following firelands trash and valor points items:

评论来自 DrakeWurrum

评论来自 Nahela

Has anybody actually confirmed this in-game?

评论来自 Malicii

Sounds like BS to me. Either the GM is mistaken(Not the first time) or the pic is shopped. There isn't even a Use effect on 火石结晶. Also, you'd think something like this would have a blue post on it already.

评论来自 282846

killed 3 bosses on heroic still no crystallized firestone

评论来自 Erethzium

So...does anyone have a straight answer on how these things work? A lot of the VP items are not listed on the vendor.

评论来自 chrth

"The stat gain from upgrading your ranged slot is practically nothing whereas a weapon upgrade can be massive"

This, of course, does not apply to Hunters.

评论来自 itsnotemy

As previously mentioned, it looks like the firestone drop rate is to be fixed soon. Also, it looks like the missing heroic items to upgrade are going to be made available sometime soon. Maybe a fix patch coming?

This may change many BiS options and give the majority of classes a 391 waist option (currently only melee leather, and dps plate exist in heroic 391 and one cloth 397)

评论来自 418867

That's a tank belt, not dps. You can tell by the socket bonus and the fact that it has less str than the 378 rep belt.

评论来自 Erethzium

I really hope more VP items get added, because as it is, Sinestra bracers are BiS for priests...

评论来自 Sinascendant

Okay, uh, since nobody on this page seems to understand how Wowhead works...

Those drop rates listed? Those include every single NORMAL MODE run that has been done on those bosses so far. Obviously, since Crystallized Firestone does not drop in Normal, these drop percentages are going to be terribly skewed. Instead of being, say, 50/200 heroic runs drops a Firestone, it's 50/200 heroic + 2000 normal, which would drop the chance from 25% to a mere .03%.

Go look at the Heroic drops for each of these bosses. Those pages show the CORRECT drop rate, which is probably about 10% (some bosses have 12%, some bosses have 7%, but we haven't had enough drops to normalize it yet.)

Anyway, the droprate on these is relatively reasonable. Given that Raggy's droprate is probably higher, you should get basically 2 drops per three runs. A little low, but I'm sure it'll go up in the future.

But seeing as each person only needs 3-4 of these, they should be able to get most if not all by the time they've got the rest of their gear.

评论来自 pheonixblue

We've killed something like 22 heroic bosses no and haven't had a single drop.Are they going to be fixing the drop rate?

评论来自 sanjiyan

there seem to be a real problem in drop rate on this things.(as of today, on shannox HM)17% drop rate in 10man8% drop rate in 25man

评论来自 FuxieDK

How many of these seem to boss per drop on 10 and 25 mans?

Most likely 0.. Drop rate is 0,12% to 1,2%..

EDIT: roughly 5% drop rate, after Blizzard buffed it..

评论来自 squee666

As of Todays Hotfix (16th of August)(Not a Patch) they are Now including this item in the *Grab-Bag* List on HC (Heroic if you dont know what that means) >.>

So instead of getting a random Weapon you can get this instead.

*Grab-Bag* is what blizzard refers to as the shared boss loot.

Thanks for downrating something useful.

评论来自 132039

As of Todays Hotfix they are Now including this item in the *Grab-Bag* List on HC

There's no mention of it in the hotfix notes.It would help if you explained what HC stood for, and what you meant by a grab-bag.Your post is rather hard to figure out.

评论来自 Shuror

I believe there's a misconception here. Flareon has no moves.

评论来自 Erethzium

Well that sucks, there are no 391 spirit rings besides the exalted one, and there are no 391 spirit bracers either. GG blizz making Sinestra loot BiS for priests?

GG wowhead users, downrating me for correct info.

评论来自 arcanuslink

I logon maximum a few times a year, and you sir, managed to be a reason for this year's second.

评论来自 193457

They're the true legendaries in Cataclysm. Not the staff.

(Read: we still haven't seen one drop yet despite working on Ragnaros heroic for multiple weeks.)

评论来自 relishwasray

We had 2 drop last night after never having seen one. Looks like the nerf upped the drop rate significantly!

评论来自 relishwasray

We had 2 drop last night after never having seen one. Looks like the nerf upped the drop rate significantly!

评论来自 882761

It does feel like the nerf increased the drop rate for this to me.

We had i think 4 drops out of 26 heroic kills pre-nerf as compared to 3 out of 6 heroic kills yesterday (2 from the same boss).

评论来自 Hurin89

for people lucky enough to have seen a stone drop; it was on 25 or 10 man setting?

评论来自 INvShika

Wondering if the drop rate got a stealth buff, we got 2 from 5 heroic 10-man bosses this week and 2 from 6 last week.

评论来自 Laeleiweyn

My guild has seen 1 drop so far, after 25 heroic kills.

Adding the Crystallized Firestones was a good idea! It seemed to me they were trying to add more universal loot drops, like a kind of "intelligent loot drop" system. Perhaps especially 10mans who often only have one or two people with same gear preference would have benefited from this. (At least my guild end up sharding a lot of stuff even though we are far from completely geared.)

But the drop chance on these is really not good enough to complete this task. Our guild has done 25 heroic kills in Firelands. We've seen one Crystallized Firestone drop (which I got to upgrade my crossbow). That makes it a 4 % drop chance for my guild, and haven't really helped with gearing.

In Firelands we keep getting the same drops every week. Ragnaros (normal) drops the caster staff and the strength trinket every week! EVERYONE has it for mainspec, offspec and third spec. While Fandral's Flamescythe only dropped one time, and of course in the raid when our feral druid wasn't there. And Shannox's scalp? Still attached to his head apparently.

I really hope the 4.3-equivalent of Crystallized Firestone will have a better drop chance.

On the same note, I wish they'd make tier tokens available for all classes instead of divided into three tiers. I think they were in tier 9 (Trial of the Crusader). Our guild seems to keep getting the DK/druid/mage/rogue-tokens dropped, while the other two tokens hardly ever drop. Not sure why they changed it back from tier 9, I think the "one size fits all"-approach was really good.

评论来自 AlexL1118

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that for holy paladins the only use of 火石结晶 is 烧焦的艾维娜羽毛.

评论来自 902838

you sir, made my day

评论来自 Zephytoth

our guild has seen at least 6 of these, 3 of which i've gotten. It seems that baleroc & domo has higher chance of dropping these. We have had 5 of them from those 2 bosses and the 6th from Rhyolith.EDIT: last raid night we downed 5 bosses hc after a horrible start. in the end we rounded up 3 of these! i'm not sure if the drop chance was increased but they dropped from Beth, Rhyo & Baleroc.

评论来自 Xerxus

It looks like these are 100% drop rate after 4.3.2.

Edit: or at least significantly better.

2 dropped out of three hm

评论来自 jevans45069

评论来自 MaXiiczek

I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but from 2 full clears of Firelands 25 hc, no boss dropped one of those... and I would really like to get missing part of heroic xmog set... :/ I'm starting to believe those low drop rates are real, not wrong calculation due to data from normal runs...

评论来自 tale

Transmoggers: there are different appearances between the regular, ilvl 378, items and their upgraded heroic, ilvl 391, counterparts. Here's a list of the ones still in the game, as of Legion, that you can xmog.