We've all heard the reasoning the government uses to justify their extensive surveillance and intel networks. They say "It is for the public good, to keep the public safe from enemies foriegn and domestic".

Well, what kind of info are they gathering and storing forever? All internet and phone data, gps tracking, drone and satellite imagery, millions of video surveillance devices in businesses and homes, as well as millions of traffic video cams and other city surveillance.

So, they've set up an excellent system to catch terrorists...like your neighborhood oathkeeper, homeschooler, christian, patriot...and the islamic terrorists. Right?

So, since this system is so massive and contains basically all the information needed to catch perps and keep us safe, we should be hearing about more and more arrests of child abductors, murderers, rapists, etc...right? Every time we hear about a new abduction or murder -- or terrorist bombing -- we should expect the perp to be arrested and the child found in a matter of hours to days. Not weeks. Not months. Not years. And almost never "unsolved". Right?

Since we as citizens clearly do not see those kinds of results, I don't think we're seeing the correct bang-for-buck ratio with this surveillance system we paid for.

It also proves that the government doesn't give a shit about us, and that they have been covering for murderers, pedophiles, rapists...letting children be taken from their parents and be sexually assaulted and murdered, or kidnapped and abused for years, etc. With their all too untimely discovery of who blew up that apparent surveillance deadzone at the finish line at the boston marathon, plus the abilities their systems give them, it is clear we were being lied to about when they knew who did it and that they were being "sought" (they clearly knew where they were the whole time with this system).

In conclusion, the government is guilty of not only Constitutional violations through the use of this system, but they are also covering up murders and kidnappings in order to not expose the reach of their system, and they are at the very least derelict in their duties. QED.

Suck it NSA fascists.:just_sticks:

Quoting: MagTog

I don't see "Obama" anywhere in your post. Life was pretty good before Obama. HE is the problem. The tyrant ABUSING HIS POWER. If you don't name him as the problem, you are full of shit.

We've all heard the reasoning the government uses to justify their extensive surveillance and intel networks. They say "It is for the public good, to keep the public safe from enemies foriegn and domestic".

Well, what kind of info are they gathering and storing forever? All internet and phone data, gps tracking, drone and satellite imagery, millions of video surveillance devices in businesses and homes, as well as millions of traffic video cams and other city surveillance.

So, they've set up an excellent system to catch terrorists...like your neighborhood oathkeeper, homeschooler, christian, patriot...and the islamic terrorists. Right?

So, since this system is so massive and contains basically all the information needed to catch perps and keep us safe, we should be hearing about more and more arrests of child abductors, murderers, rapists, etc...right? Every time we hear about a new abduction or murder -- or terrorist bombing -- we should expect the perp to be arrested and the child found in a matter of hours to days. Not weeks. Not months. Not years. And almost never "unsolved". Right?

Since we as citizens clearly do not see those kinds of results, I don't think we're seeing the correct bang-for-buck ratio with this surveillance system we paid for.

It also proves that the government doesn't give a shit about us, and that they have been covering for murderers, pedophiles, rapists...letting children be taken from their parents and be sexually assaulted and murdered, or kidnapped and abused for years, etc. With their all too untimely discovery of who blew up that apparent surveillance deadzone at the finish line at the boston marathon, plus the abilities their systems give them, it is clear we were being lied to about when they knew who did it and that they were being "sought" (they clearly knew where they were the whole time with this system).

In conclusion, the government is guilty of not only Constitutional violations through the use of this system, but they are also covering up murders and kidnappings in order to not expose the reach of their system, and they are at the very least derelict in their duties. QED.

Suck it NSA fascists.:just_sticks:

Quoting: MagTog

I don't see "Obama" anywhere in your post. Life was pretty good before Obama. HE is the problem. The tyrant ABUSING HIS POWER. If you don't name him as the problem, you are full of shit.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41282287

and yes, I see your avatar. Why didn't you mention him in your post????

We've all heard the reasoning the government uses to justify their extensive surveillance and intel networks. They say "It is for the public good, to keep the public safe from enemies foriegn and domestic".

Well, what kind of info are they gathering and storing forever? All internet and phone data, gps tracking, drone and satellite imagery, millions of video surveillance devices in businesses and homes, as well as millions of traffic video cams and other city surveillance.

So, they've set up an excellent system to catch terrorists...like your neighborhood oathkeeper, homeschooler, christian, patriot...and the islamic terrorists. Right?

So, since this system is so massive and contains basically all the information needed to catch perps and keep us safe, we should be hearing about more and more arrests of child abductors, murderers, rapists, etc...right? Every time we hear about a new abduction or murder -- or terrorist bombing -- we should expect the perp to be arrested and the child found in a matter of hours to days. Not weeks. Not months. Not years. And almost never "unsolved". Right?

Since we as citizens clearly do not see those kinds of results, I don't think we're seeing the correct bang-for-buck ratio with this surveillance system we paid for.

It also proves that the government doesn't give a shit about us, and that they have been covering for murderers, pedophiles, rapists...letting children be taken from their parents and be sexually assaulted and murdered, or kidnapped and abused for years, etc. With their all too untimely discovery of who blew up that apparent surveillance deadzone at the finish line at the boston marathon, plus the abilities their systems give them, it is clear we were being lied to about when they knew who did it and that they were being "sought" (they clearly knew where they were the whole time with this system).

In conclusion, the government is guilty of not only Constitutional violations through the use of this system, but they are also covering up murders and kidnappings in order to not expose the reach of their system, and they are at the very least derelict in their duties. QED.

Suck it NSA fascists.

Quoting: MagTog

I don't see "Obama" anywhere in your post. Life was pretty good before Obama. HE is the problem. The tyrant ABUSING HIS POWER. If you don't name him as the problem, you are full of shit.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41282287

and yes, I see your avatar. Why didn't you mention him in your post????

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41282287

LOL. I was wondering if you would see that.

I don't know if it is Obama that is the problem, or if they had to wait for the Obama theme to arise in order to to be utterly ridiculous and treasonous.

I'm not a fan of many previous presidents either.For some reason, I have a problem with a Cheerleader whose grandfather was a main banker for the nazis and who started 2 unnecessary wars using a false flag event, murdering thousands, to justify them.

I really don't think Obama is the problem. He shouldn't even be in office. The problem lies further up the chain of command than our President -- or, in Obama's case, "President".

We've all heard the reasoning the government uses to justify their extensive surveillance and intel networks. They say "It is for the public good, to keep the public safe from enemies foriegn and domestic".

Well, what kind of info are they gathering and storing forever? All internet and phone data, gps tracking, drone and satellite imagery, millions of video surveillance devices in businesses and homes, as well as millions of traffic video cams and other city surveillance.

So, they've set up an excellent system to catch terrorists...like your neighborhood oathkeeper, homeschooler, christian, patriot...and the islamic terrorists. Right?

So, since this system is so massive and contains basically all the information needed to catch perps and keep us safe, we should be hearing about more and more arrests of child abductors, murderers, rapists, etc...right? Every time we hear about a new abduction or murder -- or terrorist bombing -- we should expect the perp to be arrested and the child found in a matter of hours to days. Not weeks. Not months. Not years. And almost never "unsolved". Right?

Since we as citizens clearly do not see those kinds of results, I don't think we're seeing the correct bang-for-buck ratio with this surveillance system we paid for.

It also proves that the government doesn't give a shit about us, and that they have been covering for murderers, pedophiles, rapists...letting children be taken from their parents and be sexually assaulted and murdered, or kidnapped and abused for years, etc. With their all too untimely discovery of who blew up that apparent surveillance deadzone at the finish line at the boston marathon, plus the abilities their systems give them, it is clear we were being lied to about when they knew who did it and that they were being "sought" (they clearly knew where they were the whole time with this system).

In conclusion, the government is guilty of not only Constitutional violations through the use of this system, but they are also covering up murders and kidnappings in order to not expose the reach of their system, and they are at the very least derelict in their duties. QED.

Suck it NSA fascists.

Quoting: MagTog

I don't see "Obama" anywhere in your post. Life was pretty good before Obama. HE is the problem. The tyrant ABUSING HIS POWER. If you don't name him as the problem, you are full of shit.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41282287

and yes, I see your avatar. Why didn't you mention him in your post????

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41282287

LOL. I was wondering if you would see that.

I don't know if it is Obama that is the problem, or if they had to wait for the Obama theme to arise in order to to be utterly ridiculous and treasonous.

I'm not a fan of many previous presidents either.For some reason, I have a problem with a Cheerleader whose grandfather was a main banker for the nazis and who started 2 unnecessary wars using a false flag event, murdering thousands, to justify them.

I really don't think Obama is the problem. He shouldn't even be in office. The problem lies further up the chain of command than our President -- or, in Obama's case, "President".

Quoting: MagTog

Also, don't you find it odd that McCain, Romney and Obama all have - at the very minimum - questions regarding their eligibility? None of them are eligible, in case you're wondering...

Up next to bat will be Rubio or Jindall or Cruz. All ineligible. I don't know who will be on the Dem side, but...just venturing a guess...ineligible as well?

Thier job is not to protect US, but the jews. I know I am going to be criticized for that statement, but nerveless it is true. 'national security has nothing to do with the security of this nation, it is ALWAYS an excuse to hide the truth and cover up crimes. ANd guess who OWNS this country??

We've all heard the reasoning the government uses to justify their extensive surveillance and intel networks. They say "It is for the public good, to keep the public safe from enemies foriegn and domestic".

Well, what kind of info are they gathering and storing forever? All internet and phone data, gps tracking, drone and satellite imagery, millions of video surveillance devices in businesses and homes, as well as millions of traffic video cams and other city surveillance.

So, they've set up an excellent system to catch terrorists...like your neighborhood oathkeeper, homeschooler, christian, patriot...and the islamic terrorists. Right?

So, since this system is so massive and contains basically all the information needed to catch perps and keep us safe, we should be hearing about more and more arrests of child abductors, murderers, rapists, etc...right? Every time we hear about a new abduction or murder -- or terrorist bombing -- we should expect the perp to be arrested and the child found in a matter of hours to days. Not weeks. Not months. Not years. And almost never "unsolved". Right?

Since we as citizens clearly do not see those kinds of results, I don't think we're seeing the correct bang-for-buck ratio with this surveillance system we paid for.

It also proves that the government doesn't give a shit about us, and that they have been covering for murderers, pedophiles, rapists...letting children be taken from their parents and be sexually assaulted and murdered, or kidnapped and abused for years, etc. With their all too untimely discovery of who blew up that apparent surveillance deadzone at the finish line at the boston marathon, plus the abilities their systems give them, it is clear we were being lied to about when they knew who did it and that they were being "sought" (they clearly knew where they were the whole time with this system).

In conclusion, the government is guilty of not only Constitutional violations through the use of this system, but they are also covering up murders and kidnappings in order to not expose the reach of their system, and they are at the very least derelict in their duties. QED.

Suck it NSA fascists.

Quoting: MagTog

I don't see "Obama" anywhere in your post. Life was pretty good before Obama. HE is the problem. The tyrant ABUSING HIS POWER. If you don't name him as the problem, you are full of shit.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41282287

and yes, I see your avatar. Why didn't you mention him in your post????

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41282287

LOL. I was wondering if you would see that.

I don't know if it is Obama that is the problem, or if they had to wait for the Obama theme to arise in order to to be utterly ridiculous and treasonous.

I'm not a fan of many previous presidents either.For some reason, I have a problem with a Cheerleader whose grandfather was a main banker for the nazis and who started 2 unnecessary wars using a false flag event, murdering thousands, to justify them.

I really don't think Obama is the problem. He shouldn't even be in office. The problem lies further up the chain of command than our President -- or, in Obama's case, "President".

We've all heard the reasoning the government uses to justify their extensive surveillance and intel networks. They say "It is for the public good, to keep the public safe from enemies foriegn and domestic".

Well, what kind of info are they gathering and storing forever? All internet and phone data, gps tracking, drone and satellite imagery, millions of video surveillance devices in businesses and homes, as well as millions of traffic video cams and other city surveillance.

So, they've set up an excellent system to catch terrorists...like your neighborhood oathkeeper, homeschooler, christian, patriot...and the islamic terrorists. Right?

So, since this system is so massive and contains basically all the information needed to catch perps and keep us safe, we should be hearing about more and more arrests of child abductors, murderers, rapists, etc...right? Every time we hear about a new abduction or murder -- or terrorist bombing -- we should expect the perp to be arrested and the child found in a matter of hours to days. Not weeks. Not months. Not years. And almost never "unsolved". Right?

Since we as citizens clearly do not see those kinds of results, I don't think we're seeing the correct bang-for-buck ratio with this surveillance system we paid for.

It also proves that the government doesn't give a shit about us, and that they have been covering for murderers, pedophiles, rapists...letting children be taken from their parents and be sexually assaulted and murdered, or kidnapped and abused for years, etc. With their all too untimely discovery of who blew up that apparent surveillance deadzone at the finish line at the boston marathon, plus the abilities their systems give them, it is clear we were being lied to about when they knew who did it and that they were being "sought" (they clearly knew where they were the whole time with this system).

In conclusion, the government is guilty of not only Constitutional violations through the use of this system, but they are also covering up murders and kidnappings in order to not expose the reach of their system, and they are at the very least derelict in their duties. QED.

Suck it NSA fascists.:just_sticks:

Quoting: MagTog

This is all good but what about when you buy your next funny-smoke or light up your next joint. There is a knock at the door; will you still say this? Just curious that's all.

We've all heard the reasoning the government uses to justify their extensive surveillance and intel networks. They say "It is for the public good, to keep the public safe from enemies foriegn and domestic".

Well, what kind of info are they gathering and storing forever? All internet and phone data, gps tracking, drone and satellite imagery, millions of video surveillance devices in businesses and homes, as well as millions of traffic video cams and other city surveillance.

So, they've set up an excellent system to catch terrorists...like your neighborhood oathkeeper, homeschooler, christian, patriot...and the islamic terrorists. Right?

So, since this system is so massive and contains basically all the information needed to catch perps and keep us safe, we should be hearing about more and more arrests of child abductors, murderers, rapists, etc...right? Every time we hear about a new abduction or murder -- or terrorist bombing -- we should expect the perp to be arrested and the child found in a matter of hours to days. Not weeks. Not months. Not years. And almost never "unsolved". Right?

Since we as citizens clearly do not see those kinds of results, I don't think we're seeing the correct bang-for-buck ratio with this surveillance system we paid for.

It also proves that the government doesn't give a shit about us, and that they have been covering for murderers, pedophiles, rapists...letting children be taken from their parents and be sexually assaulted and murdered, or kidnapped and abused for years, etc. With their all too untimely discovery of who blew up that apparent surveillance deadzone at the finish line at the boston marathon, plus the abilities their systems give them, it is clear we were being lied to about when they knew who did it and that they were being "sought" (they clearly knew where they were the whole time with this system).

In conclusion, the government is guilty of not only Constitutional violations through the use of this system, but they are also covering up murders and kidnappings in order to not expose the reach of their system, and they are at the very least derelict in their duties. QED.

Suck it NSA fascists.

Quoting: MagTog

This is all good but what about when you buy your next funny-smoke or light up your next joint. There is a knock at the door; will you still say this? Just curious that's all.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38121729

Yep. Nothing like destroying all humanitarian-motivated beliefs about one's job right to their face, as long as they're mindlessly carrying out the will of fascists.

It is simple from the viewpoint of intelligence community. The system is extremely secret and using it in normal law enforcement would compromise its effectiveness in the war on terror. If evidence obtained by it would be used in litigation, the source would have to be revealed. It would not be a secret for long. Therefore, it is reserved only for national security and not for fighting ordinary crime. It is like during WWII, when the British intelligence obtained and decrypted German signals pinpointing future bombing runs on British cities. That information could not be used, because the Germans would have realized that their comms were compromised. Hence, no advance warning was given, cities were bombed and people died. Yet, in hindsight, it was the right thing to do.

We've all heard the reasoning the government uses to justify their extensive surveillance and intel networks. They say "It is for the public good, to keep the public safe from enemies foriegn and domestic".

Well, what kind of info are they gathering and storing forever? All internet and phone data, gps tracking, drone and satellite imagery, millions of video surveillance devices in businesses and homes, as well as millions of traffic video cams and other city surveillance.

So, they've set up an excellent system to catch terrorists...like your neighborhood oathkeeper, homeschooler, christian, patriot...and the islamic terrorists. Right?

So, since this system is so massive and contains basically all the information needed to catch perps and keep us safe, we should be hearing about more and more arrests of child abductors, murderers, rapists, etc...right? Every time we hear about a new abduction or murder -- or terrorist bombing -- we should expect the perp to be arrested and the child found in a matter of hours to days. Not weeks. Not months. Not years. And almost never "unsolved". Right?

Since we as citizens clearly do not see those kinds of results, I don't think we're seeing the correct bang-for-buck ratio with this surveillance system we paid for.

It also proves that the government doesn't give a shit about us, and that they have been covering for murderers, pedophiles, rapists...letting children be taken from their parents and be sexually assaulted and murdered, or kidnapped and abused for years, etc. With their all too untimely discovery of who blew up that apparent surveillance deadzone at the finish line at the boston marathon, plus the abilities their systems give them, it is clear we were being lied to about when they knew who did it and that they were being "sought" (they clearly knew where they were the whole time with this system).

In conclusion, the government is guilty of not only Constitutional violations through the use of this system, but they are also covering up murders and kidnappings in order to not expose the reach of their system, and they are at the very least derelict in their duties. QED.

Suck it NSA fascists.:just_sticks:

Quoting: MagTog

This is all good but what about when you buy your next funny-smoke or light up your next joint. There is a knock at the door; will you still say this? Just curious that's all.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38121729

Well why wouldn't he? He already knows they see and hear him. Are they terrorists or something?

It's been like 15 times I've tried to post my reply to user NSA. Still no luck.

Definitely needleman-wunsch or smith-waterman. I'm just wondering if it's GLP or some special agency that might be able to intercept the message before it gets to GLP...

I really hope GLP isn't being a bundle of sticks helper.

(BTW, if you don't know what a "bundle of sticks" is, look it up on google. There's a word for that.):just_sticks:

Quoting: MagTog

After being here a long time, way before the superbowl purge, I can see that some of these newer members have account activation dates that go way back in time and they can not remember good threads like ShadowDancers' "Sarah's Nightmare". But let them data mine and classify, we know who wins at the end.

It's been like 15 times I've tried to post my reply to user NSA. Still no luck.

Definitely needleman-wunsch or smith-waterman. I'm just wondering if it's GLP or some special agency that might be able to intercept the message before it gets to GLP...

I really hope GLP isn't being a bundle of sticks helper.

(BTW, if you don't know what a "bundle of sticks" is, look it up on google. There's a word for that.)

Quoting: MagTog

After being here a long time, way before the superbowl purge, I can see that some of these newer members have account activation dates that go way back in time and they can not remember good threads like ShadowDancers' "Sarah's Nightmare". But let them data mine and classify, we know who wins at the end.

There is no money to pay these "enforcers" to roundup the largest armed population on the planet. It is a total suicide assignment and they know it. Besides the pedophile scum are cowards who happily use nsa lies to steal children by the millions; they dont want their gravy train to end.

There is no money to pay these "enforcers" to roundup the largest armed population on the planet. It is a total suicide assignment and they know it. Besides the pedophile scum are cowards who happily use nsa lies to steal children by the millions; they dont want their gravy train to end.

This is pretty much what I just said on a thread elsewhere. Only you were more eloquent. Topic had to do with some official saying (in defense of PRISM) "We've stopped dozens of terrorists attacks with this program." Dozens? DOZENS?!? Well that's impressive, heh? At what cost to the taxpayers? Yet they didn't see Sandy Hook coming, nor Boston, nor the shooting in Santa Monica....ad nauseum.

So, yeah. I completely agree with you.

This kind of proof requires use of your brain.

We've all heard the reasoning the government uses to justify their extensive surveillance and intel networks. They say "It is for the public good, to keep the public safe from enemies foriegn and domestic".

Well, what kind of info are they gathering and storing forever? All internet and phone data, gps tracking, drone and satellite imagery, millions of video surveillance devices in businesses and homes, as well as millions of traffic video cams and other city surveillance.

So, they've set up an excellent system to catch terrorists...like your neighborhood oathkeeper, homeschooler, christian, patriot...and the islamic terrorists. Right?

So, since this system is so massive and contains basically all the information needed to catch perps and keep us safe, we should be hearing about more and more arrests of child abductors, murderers, rapists, etc...right? Every time we hear about a new abduction or murder -- or terrorist bombing -- we should expect the perp to be arrested and the child found in a matter of hours to days. Not weeks. Not months. Not years. And almost never "unsolved". Right?

Since we as citizens clearly do not see those kinds of results, I don't think we're seeing the correct bang-for-buck ratio with this surveillance system we paid for.

It also proves that the government doesn't give a shit about us, and that they have been covering for murderers, pedophiles, rapists...letting children be taken from their parents and be sexually assaulted and murdered, or kidnapped and abused for years, etc. With their all too untimely discovery of who blew up that apparent surveillance deadzone at the finish line at the boston marathon, plus the abilities their systems give them, it is clear we were being lied to about when they knew who did it and that they were being "sought" (they clearly knew where they were the whole time with this system).

In conclusion, the government is guilty of not only Constitutional violations through the use of this system, but they are also covering up murders and kidnappings in order to not expose the reach of their system, and they are at the very least derelict in their duties. QED.