Over the past year and a half, former Scientology spokesman Mike Rinder has made himself into the best expert on the current health of the organization. At his great blog, Mike leaks internal data (some of it very arcane and inside) in order to document what many of us have been saying for several years - Scientology is dying, and fast.

With a new year starting, Jeffrey Augustine asked Rinder to sit down for another Surviving Scientology podcast, which we're premiering here.

Jeff starts out by asking about how 2014 started out - with Scientology spending money to get an ad in yet another Super Bowl. This particular ad featured an E-meter, making the pitch that Scientology is a marriage of spirituality and technology. But Rinder explains what a disaster that is. Showing an E-meter on an ad was a ludicrous way to bring in new people, Rinder points out, but the ads are really aimed at Scientology's membership, in order to convince them to keep giving money.