So basically the family fighting for their selfish desire to have their kid live ended up damaging their brain with the cure. Some cure. Depending on the level of damage, it would've been much more ethical to let her die from the cancer. I don't like saying it, but it's something we need to consider.

So basically the family fighting for their selfish desire to have their kid live ended up damaging their brain with the cure. Some cure. Depending on the level of damage, it would've been much more ethical to let her die from the cancer. I don't like saying it, but it's something we need to consider.

/feels like a scumbag//trying to be an ethical scumbag

I agree, although they did rather gloss over the brain damage part somewhat, so I'd be rather interested in knowing exactly how brain damaged she is. Though I suspect it is less likely to be that she might be a slow learner, and more along the lines of cannot perform basic functions anymore. If she cannot go on to live an independent life in the future, then I'd certainly say her parents were indeed horrible selfish people.

Based on the name of the disease (which makes me think the tumor is near the pineal gland) and the fact that the girl needs a wheelchair, I'd guess brain stem took the damage, meaning that things like her coordination would be affected.

aerojockey:Based on the name of the disease (which makes me think the tumor is near the pineal gland) and the fact that the girl needs a wheelchair, I'd guess brain stem took the damage, meaning that things like her coordination would be affected.

From reading elsewhere, though unfortunately most of the articles seem to be carbon copies of this one, she is also legally blind and they are saying the total volume of her brain is now less than it would be for a normal child her age thanks to the amount of radiation/chemo she went through.

Nidiot:encyclopediaplushuman: TFA says she has brain damage as a result of the treatment.

So basically the family fighting for their selfish desire to have their kid live ended up damaging their brain with the cure. Some cure. Depending on the level of damage, it would've been much more ethical to let her die from the cancer. I don't like saying it, but it's something we need to consider.

/feels like a scumbag//trying to be an ethical scumbag

I agree, although they did rather gloss over the brain damage part somewhat, so I'd be rather interested in knowing exactly how brain damaged she is. Though I suspect it is less likely to be that she might be a slow learner, and more along the lines of cannot perform basic functions anymore. If she cannot go on to live an independent life in the future, then I'd certainly say her parents were indeed horrible selfish people.

So basically the family fighting for their selfish desire to have their kid live ended up damaging their brain with the cure. Some cure. Depending on the level of damage, it would've been much more ethical to let her die from the cancer. I don't like saying it, but it's something we need to consider.

/feels like a scumbag//trying to be an ethical scumbag

I agree, although they did rather gloss over the brain damage part somewhat, so I'd be rather interested in knowing exactly how brain damaged she is. Though I suspect it is less likely to be that she might be a slow learner, and more along the lines of cannot perform basic functions anymore. If she cannot go on to live an independent life in the future, then I'd certainly say her parents were indeed horrible selfish people.

Another article spoke of "loss of speech" but nothing more drastic... could be a consequence of tumor pressure on brain areas. If not, well, sign language is available; it's not like she was locked in by the damn thing, I hope she recovers from the whole damn thing soon. In the meantime...

I'm no expert, but things like this make me think it probably isn't zero percent:

"Nine patients are alive and disease-free at a median follow-up of 62 months (range, 28 to 125 months) from diagnosis. This includes three of four patients with metastatic disease at presentation (patients 5, 9, and 11; Table 1⇑) and two infants (patients 1 and 2; Table 1⇑) who did not receive radiotherapy." http://jco.ascopubs.org/content/21/11/2187.full

Well, she's 8. She might be rather delayed, but kids have loads of neuroplasticity.

All in all, bravo, you killed a cancer using radiological brute force. Inelegant compared to other stuff you see in the news. Like reprogramming a virus to attack a target cancer.

I have rather brutal things to say about spending hundreds of thousands to cure kids. These entities that have had little put into them, not even any education expenditures. Similar with the 85 year old hip replacement, the person has reached an end. But we see it perfectly fine to send 18 -21 year olds into combat when we just finished raising them. Same thing about reserving a vaccine for seniors and infants. One bad flu and all we have are old people and children.

Nidiot:The more you eat the more you fart: Nidiot: encyclopediaplushuman: TFA says she has brain damage as a result of the treatment.

So basically the family fighting for their selfish desire to have their kid live ended up damaging their brain with the cure. Some cure. Depending on the level of damage, it would've been much more ethical to let her die from the cancer. I don't like saying it, but it's something we need to consider.

/feels like a scumbag//trying to be an ethical scumbag

I agree, although they did rather gloss over the brain damage part somewhat, so I'd be rather interested in knowing exactly how brain damaged she is. Though I suspect it is less likely to be that she might be a slow learner, and more along the lines of cannot perform basic functions anymore. If she cannot go on to live an independent life in the future, then I'd certainly say her parents were indeed horrible selfish people.

So basically the family fighting for their selfish desire to have their kid live ended up damaging their brain with the cure. Some cure. Depending on the level of damage, it would've been much more ethical to let her die from the cancer. I don't like saying it, but it's something we need to consider.

/feels like a scumbag//trying to be an ethical scumbag

I agree, although they did rather gloss over the brain damage part somewhat, so I'd be rather interested in knowing exactly how brain damaged she is. Though I suspect it is less likely to be that she might be a slow learner, and more along the lines of cannot perform basic functions anymore. If she cannot go on to live an independent life in the future, then I'd certainly say her parents were indeed horrible selfish people.

Ask the lite girl is she'd rather be dead or not.

I know this is fark..but damn there are some sick bastards in here

Aaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnd now we have 'quality of life' in play. is the cure worse than the disease?

OtherLittleGuy:The more you eat the more you fart: Nidiot: encyclopediaplushuman: TFA says she has brain damage as a result of the treatment.

So basically the family fighting for their selfish desire to have their kid live ended up damaging their brain with the cure. Some cure. Depending on the level of damage, it would've been much more ethical to let her die from the cancer. I don't like saying it, but it's something we need to consider.

/feels like a scumbag//trying to be an ethical scumbag

I agree, although they did rather gloss over the brain damage part somewhat, so I'd be rather interested in knowing exactly how brain damaged she is. Though I suspect it is less likely to be that she might be a slow learner, and more along the lines of cannot perform basic functions anymore. If she cannot go on to live an independent life in the future, then I'd certainly say her parents were indeed horrible selfish people.

Ask the lite girl is she'd rather be dead or not.

I know this is fark..but damn there are some sick bastards in here

Aaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnd now we have 'quality of life' in play. is the cure worse than the disease?

/too early for popcorn, gets coffee

It probably wasnt the treatment that caused the blindness or motor deficits.

The antineoplastics and ionizing radiation probably lowered her brain volume but she's 8.

Nidiot:The more you eat the more you fart: Nidiot: encyclopediaplushuman: TFA says she has brain damage as a result of the treatment.

So basically the family fighting for their selfish desire to have their kid live ended up damaging their brain with the cure. Some cure. Depending on the level of damage, it would've been much more ethical to let her die from the cancer. I don't like saying it, but it's something we need to consider.

/feels like a scumbag//trying to be an ethical scumbag

I agree, although they did rather gloss over the brain damage part somewhat, so I'd be rather interested in knowing exactly how brain damaged she is. Though I suspect it is less likely to be that she might be a slow learner, and more along the lines of cannot perform basic functions anymore. If she cannot go on to live an independent life in the future, then I'd certainly say her parents were indeed horrible selfish people.

Ask the lite girl is she'd rather be dead or not.

I know this is fark..but damn there are some sick bastards in here

Good point, but what if she just stares blankly and drools...?

I doubt they would be touting this as a success if that was the case.

The brain can be quite resilient, especially at her age. There are people living somewhat normal lives after having half their brain removed.

How quickly can we carve her up and preserve her? She's got the cure, we just need to discover how she did it. Longer we wait, the more time her body has to cover up the evidence of its shameful betrayal upon itself. It did, after all, murder a biological development with the same DNA. She's not human anymore.

I hate articles like this. My mother and uncle died of Brain cancer, each at age 50. My poor grandmother, at the time, was convinced by Reader's Digest articles that there were "MIRACLE CURES" out there, and was flat out frantic that the doctors just weren't trying.

During the misery of brain surgeries and chemo, my mother had 3 more years of "life" in which she was keenly aware and ashamed that her mental capacity was diminished and that she no longer even felt like the same person. She just knew that she was stupid, bloated, bald, uncoordinated and in pain.

When my time comes, I'll be focusing on my remaining quality of life, personal dignity and pain management with an ultimate exit plan.

I knew a woman who had a brain cancer when she was young, like 12. Her family found out when she collapsed and was rushed to hospital. A couple of years later, having had emergency brain surgery with follow up radiation/chemo, she was bald, in a wheelchair, and with one heck of a scar in the back of her skull (and missing bits of skull). Ten years after that, I met her in university, where she was walking again and getting on with her life. Ten years on, after I first met her, she's strong, well-educated, and still missing some hair. And she's more functional, self-disciplined, and determined that most other people our age that I know. So good for her, and good for this little girl for surviving. I hope she thrives like my friend has thrived when given the chance.

DrunkenBob:How quickly can we carve her up and preserve her? She's got the cure, we just need to discover how she did it. Longer we wait, the more time her body has to cover up the evidence of its shameful betrayal upon itself. It did, after all, murder a biological development with the same DNA. She's not human anymore.

She didn't cure herself, the doctors radiated and chemo'ed her almost to death, and they just managed to kill the tumour before they managed to kill her. That's how it's mostly done.

Ker_Thwap:I hate articles like this. My mother and uncle died of Brain cancer, each at age 50. My poor grandmother, at the time, was convinced by Reader's Digest articles that there were "MIRACLE CURES" out there, and was flat out frantic that the doctors just weren't trying.

During the misery of brain surgeries and chemo, my mother had 3 more years of "life" in which she was keenly aware and ashamed that her mental capacity was diminished and that she no longer even felt like the same person. She just knew that she was stupid, bloated, bald, uncoordinated and in pain.

When my time comes, I'll be focusing on my remaining quality of life, personal dignity and pain management with an ultimate exit plan.

That's me. I've seen so many relatives pointlessly spend their last few months of life getting poked and prodded and chopped into pieces in some vain attempt to beat the cancer. It never works.

When my turn comes, I will have three questions for the doctor: how long do I have, what will the end be like, and what meds can I have for the pain? I am not going to fight it.

Nidiot:The more you eat the more you fart: Nidiot: encyclopediaplushuman: TFA says she has brain damage as a result of the treatment.

So basically the family fighting for their selfish desire to have their kid live ended up damaging their brain with the cure. Some cure. Depending on the level of damage, it would've been much more ethical to let her die from the cancer. I don't like saying it, but it's something we need to consider.

/feels like a scumbag//trying to be an ethical scumbag

I agree, although they did rather gloss over the brain damage part somewhat, so I'd be rather interested in knowing exactly how brain damaged she is. Though I suspect it is less likely to be that she might be a slow learner, and more along the lines of cannot perform basic functions anymore. If she cannot go on to live an independent life in the future, then I'd certainly say her parents were indeed horrible selfish people.

doczoidberg:Ker_Thwap: I hate articles like this. My mother and uncle died of Brain cancer, each at age 50. My poor grandmother, at the time, was convinced by Reader's Digest articles that there were "MIRACLE CURES" out there, and was flat out frantic that the doctors just weren't trying.

During the misery of brain surgeries and chemo, my mother had 3 more years of "life" in which she was keenly aware and ashamed that her mental capacity was diminished and that she no longer even felt like the same person. She just knew that she was stupid, bloated, bald, uncoordinated and in pain.

When my time comes, I'll be focusing on my remaining quality of life, personal dignity and pain management with an ultimate exit plan.

That's me. I've seen so many relatives pointlessly spend their last few months of life getting poked and prodded and chopped into pieces in some vain attempt to beat the cancer. It never works.

When my turn comes, I will have three questions for the doctor: how long do I have, what will the end be like, and what meds can I have for the pain? I am not going to fight it.

Nidiot:encyclopediaplushuman: TFA says she has brain damage as a result of the treatment.

So basically the family fighting for their selfish desire to have their kid live ended up damaging their brain with the cure. Some cure. Depending on the level of damage, it would've been much more ethical to let her die from the cancer. I don't like saying it, but it's something we need to consider.

/feels like a scumbag//trying to be an ethical scumbag

I agree, although they did rather gloss over the brain damage part somewhat, so I'd be rather interested in knowing exactly how brain damaged she is. Though I suspect it is less likely to be that she might be a slow learner, and more along the lines of cannot perform basic functions anymore. If she cannot go on to live an independent life in the future, then I'd certainly say her parents were indeed horrible selfish people.

Parents will often do irrational-seeming things to protect the life of their children. If they didn't weprobably wouldn't have lasted as long as we have as a species.

But, there is another thing to consider: at the age of 8, the brain is still plastic and could conceivablybe able to rewire itself or route around the damage. Yes, she might not ever be 100%, but with timeshe could work herself up to be able to live a normal life with only slight impairment.

So basically the family fighting for their selfish desire to have their kid live ended up damaging their brain with the cure. Some cure. Depending on the level of damage, it would've been much more ethical to let her die from the cancer. I don't like saying it, but it's something we need to consider.

/feels like a scumbag//trying to be an ethical scumbag

What's ethical about preferring that someone, especially a small child, should suffer an agonizing death rather than suffer a little brain damage?

/mother died of brain cancer//she probably would have taken the brain damage over dying.