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Re: OT: Justify!!

A superstar.

It may seem old hat currently but we may not see another Triple Crown for many a year

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OT: Justify!!

Mike Smith had him loping down the back stretch still maintaining about a lengths lead. The horse exploded at the top of he stretch, through the third turn I think the last place horse was only 7 lengths back,which was Gronk that ended up 2nd almost two lengths back. Nobel Indy who finished last was 54 lengths back.

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Re: OT: Justify!!

That's quite a kick!

“Before I leave I’d like to see our politics begin to return to the purposes and practices that distinguish our history from the history of other nations,
“I would like to see us recover our sense that we are more alike than different. We are citizens of a republic made of shared ideals forged in a new world to replace the tribal enmities that tormented the old one. Even in times of political turmoil such as these, we share that awesome heritage and the responsibility to embrace it.”
-Patriot and Senator. John McCain

Re: OT: Justify!!

Originally Posted by HerbTarlek

Baffert sucks and so does winstar.

A heck of a horse regardless.

“Before I leave I’d like to see our politics begin to return to the purposes and practices that distinguish our history from the history of other nations,
“I would like to see us recover our sense that we are more alike than different. We are citizens of a republic made of shared ideals forged in a new world to replace the tribal enmities that tormented the old one. Even in times of political turmoil such as these, we share that awesome heritage and the responsibility to embrace it.”
-Patriot and Senator. John McCain

Re: OT: Justify!!

I really expected him to fade about the 1/4 to 1/8th pole and come in 4th or 5th and when he held the lead and Smith did not really have to go to the whip I was amazed at the horses effort and stamina.

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Re: OT: Justify!!

Originally Posted by anderwt

No judgment, but why the hate? Just curious..I know the Ownership for AMERICAN Pharoah was not good..

That's a really good question.

I left Kentucky in 1995 and at that time, I was REALLY into Horse Racing as my grandfather was still training and racing. I think I carried an inherited bias towards him. My personal observations from watching him on TV is that he seemed really smug. My first few years in Chicago and meeting some other horse owners, that feeling was emboldened, but I don't think it was anything more than like a George Steinbrenner type emotion.

Now, especially after American Pharoah, I ask myself, why did I not like him?

Now when I look back on it, he's not any different from most I've met in the industry. I'm trying to reshape my opinion, void of implicit bias, and really try to appreciate what he's brought to a sport that I really love when nobody seems to care, even though the ratings may suggest otherwise. That too, Baffert deserves credit.

Re: OT: Justify!!

Not to speak for Herb, but i know he has horse racing in his blood from conversations here.
He may refer to things that probably mean little to the casual fan.

“Before I leave I’d like to see our politics begin to return to the purposes and practices that distinguish our history from the history of other nations,
“I would like to see us recover our sense that we are more alike than different. We are citizens of a republic made of shared ideals forged in a new world to replace the tribal enmities that tormented the old one. Even in times of political turmoil such as these, we share that awesome heritage and the responsibility to embrace it.”
-Patriot and Senator. John McCain

Re: OT: Justify!!

Not much controversy there IMHO. Sure Restoring Hope was sacrificed for the benefit of Justify, but that's horse racing. It's been going on as long as I have followed racing.

No it's not new, but I don't see it played out this publicly very often. Nothing will come of it, but thought it was interesting.

What's most interesting from what I could discern is the comments from the blocking horse's owner, who doesn't seem happy with the situation. Now that could be CYA, or could be he wasn't in on it. I do find that potentially interesting to follow.

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Pat Forde chimes in: (Hey, I warned you)

So it seems clear that what happened at Belmont Saturday wasn’t new, and it will probably happen more frequently in coming years if the best horses continue to cluster in the hands of a few trainers and owners. Under the current rules of the sport, using one horse as a blocker for another is simply smart racing strategy. But it could further corrode the already rusty credibility of the sport.

Re: OT: Justify!!

Originally Posted by Darrell KSR

Pat Forde chimes in: (Hey, I warned you)

So it seems clear that what happened at Belmont Saturday wasn’t new, and it will probably happen more frequently in coming years if the best horses continue to cluster in the hands of a few trainers and owners. Under the current rules of the sport, using one horse as a blocker for another is simply smart racing strategy. But it could further corrode the already rusty credibility of the sport.

Re: OT: Justify!!

Originally Posted by blueboss

So does Baffert skip the Whitney Stakes? Or just wait for the Breeders Cup Classic and meet the winner of the “giant killer” there?

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He'll probably go in the Travers, then lay off for the rest of the summer. Might bring him back for a tune-up in October, but I doubt it if he's undefeated. If he wins the Travers, they'll probably just put him on the shelf until the Classic.