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Over the last several weeks, some ‘concerned’ readers sent sporadic emails to our intern staff about a column where we discussed the tendency of wives to get a bit loquacious at inappropriate moments, and how a good husband may go about politely handling a sassy woman.

I forwarded the following suggestion to the community:

“…sometimes in marriage the grave and solemn responsibility to politely tell the wife to be quiet and stay in her place falls upon every husband.

Being fickle and temperamental, women do not always respond to gentle words so at times a swift, backhanded slap across the face must be applied to them. This usually gets their attention and sets order straight.”

Now, I expressed the seriousness of such a situation and indicated that when cause arises, where a man must put an uppity feminist acting wife in her place, that the actions should be loving, kind and swift; much like the wrath of God when he warns you to stop sinning.

Unfortunately, some liberals out there got the wrong idea and suggested that I promoted some form of sot-ridden domestic abuse, one even having the audacity to suggest I’m ‘a drunk barbarian hick masquerading under the guise of educated morality’.

There is nothing drunk or barbaric about God’s law.

1 Corinthians 11:8 – 9
8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man;
9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.

1 Corinthians 14:34 – 35
34 women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says.
35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.

A man’s home is his holy sanctuary, as is his body, and therefore it is a man’s responsibility to ensure God’s law reigns supreme in his home and marriage.

Now do not get me wrong. God or the Bible does not condone beating a wife to the point that she is hurt. That is just wrong, sick and immoral. Men should love a wife as he loves his own body, lest a man be struck down by the mighty hand of God himself.

What cannot be overlooked is the fact that woman was given to man, as a gift from God. This gift is personalized via marriage.

There is a level of discernment one must use. The Redcoats over in Britain, who have a penchant for the dramatic, hired Hollywood actress Keira Knightley to show the wrong way for a husband to treat a wife. Let us take a look.

Now that is immoral and even if your wife cheats on you, which if this was a few hundred years ago I would personally help you stone her to death for, this day and age you just do not beat a woman like that. It is sick.

Instead, you just give them…a little Godly tap on the cheek. A reminder of who is in charge and that your wrath can be great, but for your loved one you show warning in your mercy.

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“And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.” Exodus 21:20

You do not have true love for your wife. Jesus told me this as I was typing that scripture. You are not filled with love for the Holy Spurt thus, Jesus will find ways to smite you. Not because you are a man. Because you are a smiterer.

This is absurd in so many ways. Stop using the bible to justify a man laying anything besides a loving hand on his wife. You are the reason that almost everyone who has gone to church has become frustrated with its doctrines and teachings set forth by the preacher who has his own bullshit ideas. As for whoever decided that this topic should even be up for consideration is obviously a retard. Wait, not even a mentally challenged person would consider even slightly popping his mutually handicapped wife across the face. Why? BECAUSE IT’S WRONG!!

You really want to get into details of the bible?

Christians aren’t supposed to touch any part of a pig or swine as it’s unclean. Yet what sport do we watch every Sunday while drinking a cold brew? FOOTBALL! Yeah so technically the NFL is full of sinners who are going to burn for eternity for touching a dead pig. But I doubt you’re thinking that as you cheer for your favorite football team.

Next time you decide to preach about spouse abuse, let your wife knock the ever loving shit out of you and see how close to your God you feel.

Hey 7Seven7, footballs aren’t made of pigskin anymore, and you don’t understand the Bible. This website is also a joke run by people who want to point out how absurd radical “fundamentalists” are. Develop a sense of humor? I’m a Christian, and even I find it funny because there are some churches like this out in these woods… :-\

Frederick Satiresburg: Your priorities betray your sick principles. The most important part of 7Seven7′s comment is “Stop using the bible to justify a man laying anything besides a loving hand on his wife”. But you choose to ignore this and concentrate instead on pedantic details of football construction and your opinions on humour. A humane, compassionate person loves his partner and respects him or her as an equal, whatever the text from your bronze-age collection of archaic writings says. I’ve never condoned burning books, but this sick and twisted article comes close to persuading me that Bibles should be burnt.

A gentle “love tap” is a good way of lettin your woman know when she’s crossed the line. It is dark circumstances when a woman forces a man’s hand against her. But it is to protect her soul against the hell-fires of Satan. For if a woman disobeys her man, she disobeys God’s law.

“a little Godly tap on the cheek” Go to hell! I know a thing about men that hit their wives and never is it a little godly tap on the cheek. Don’t put your hands on a woman. You wanna be man then be one by getting a hold on your temper. A real man doesn’t need to hit a woman to feel in charge.

Christ is pained bye the evil attitudes posted on this site. My family and I have been in the ministry for over a decade and it is “Christians” like you Mr. Reagan that turn people away from Christ and His love. NO WHERE in the Bible does God or Christ promote or even OK physical abuse, punishment, or coreection between spouses. A wife is a partner, not a child. I do not claim that there is no such thing as sin, but it is for the Holy Spirit to convict the sinner, and not you, or me,or anybody else on this earth. Perhaps you should take the log out your own eye before you point out the speck in you neighbors.

I’m sorry, but did you guys really take this as being truthful? This looks like the BLATANT work of an atheist making a mockery of the Christian religion. Well in all truthfulness, the RELIGION can at times be quite a mockery but not Christ Himself.

At one moment I, too, was under the impression that this site may have been true, based on one article I’d read on here. But just read an article or two, if you would. The writer(s) are undoubtedly laughing at you.

I don’t think it’s the works of atheist atheist doesnt care much about the Bible actually I’m atheist Myself and even if I were catholic My bible is Now a dust collector

we do not promot violence neither, and we don’t care about religion actually

the way i see it is fanatism who use the Bible to the core of it and they don,t read between Line

actually the Only thing atheist hate is when people tyr to force their religion through their throat NOW we tend to be very … how can I said Bad

but christian is Not all white and Pink you know just Thinking about the crusade and in the bible it’s promote violence so I’m not even surprised that those people still promote this type of Ideology compared to the free christian

Dear mr.Reagan
I Totaly agree with you
we used to have something called
The Rule of Thumb.
This law stats that a man may diseplin his wife with a stick no wider than the thumb on his hand.
This makes sure that the man never hurt the women, and you abel to carry out God`s command without hurting them.

Wow you are a crazy hill billy idiot! I’m a woman and what are you going to do smack me with a ruler through the internet? You stupid redneck. Get over yourself and get with reality. No one I mean no one has the right to abuse another person, not women, not children, not even one man hitting another in a gay relationship..that’s right I said GAY! It must be hard being you when your so closed off from the present day and you go by ancient old testament way of thinking. So very out dated just like your gross beard and ugly ill fitting jacket. Oh that flag is just pathetic. Get help man. You are sick in the head and you will burn in hell for your using Gods’ word to cat out the devils work.

Does he want to spank you for any other things? Ask him if he would like to be spanked. Maybe a small spanking at the start and work up to the good stuff. Start with a feather and then move to rubber, latex or Cedar ( only from Israel) over time. Stop if bleeding starts. Dress the wound, pray, and then recommence. Invite friends or like-minded Christians over for a friendly night of spank swapping. Make it fun, daring and a little bit fringe. Enjoy. God says it’s ok.

True Christian: you’re convinced it won’t hurt her. Please feel free to contact me directly. I’m quite prepared to bring a stick no thicker than my thumb and show you exactly what I think of your twisted morals. Oh, and I’ll also bring a dictionary no thicker than my head to help you with your spelling, you immoral ignoramus.

Perhaps you can read the article? I agree with Chuck’s column and he did not advocate physical abuse. Much like if a husband spares the rod he will spoil the child, at times I think a husband must apply this adage to all of his family, including the wife.

Just like you do not hit your kids in an abusive way, you do not hit your wife in such a way. You may give them a loving tap though, or do you think people should not discipline their kids as well?

I fully agree with Daniece. Over-religious zealots do absolutely nothing for their religion, except make it look worse.

It is never okay for a man to beat a woman. I am fully against that, as it’s abuse, for pete’s sake. A “Godly tap” on the cheek could easily turn into a fist and then some, and does anybody here think -that- is something men should do? If you do, then promptly go and shove your head somewhere that I shall not mention. No husband should beat their wives, as it’s damaging to the love that they share. If they’re married in the first place, then they got married because they love each other in most situations. Beating a spouse is a betrayal of trust, and it is morally degrading for the one who’s beating the other. It’s just not right to top it off. Do you know what happens when that bond of trust is broken? Divorce. Meaning more sorrow and pain.
But seriously, why the heck would you beat your wife anyway?

A woman is a Adult, not a child. She should NEVER have a had (or a ruler) laid on her. EVER. Can ANYONE show me a verse in the new testiment that says out and out that it is OK for a man to lay a finger on his wife? In fact, I believe that Christ told the mob that was about to stone the woman caught in adultry “He who is without sin cast the first stone”. Ok, well then, husbands, you who is without sin, “tap” you wife with a ruler, or with the back of your hand.

As one poster mentioned, sometimes a women need corected. If ther is backtalk, sassin, or deriliction of duties a wife needs to be toght. God thru Jesus toght that, as Brother Reagan toght, ‘it is a man’s responsibility to ensure God’s law reigns supreme in his home and marriage.’

i would argue that Brother Reagon is peraps playin to the GHA (gay hoolywood agenda) to much. while i understand that he wants to spread the WORD OF GOD, spreeding that “a little Godly tap on the cheek.” is enuf to save a marriage before GOD could be changing the book of life – BROTHER REAGON DO NOT BE REMOVED FROM THE BOOK OF LIFE.

Lol I’m laughing at YOU right now WWJD. Why? Your masquerading skills aren’t so great and need some work. Geez, I probably shouldn’t be pointing this out to you and helping you. But the type of person you’re trying to mimic doesn’t use punctuation properly or at all. Not even close. He also wouldn’t have put anything in quotation marks, and probably wouldn’t have capitalized much of anything. Sentences would just sort of run on with no coherent structure, like the malformed gravel roads he drives on to get to the liquor store (after buying some Skoal, of course).

Now, I liked the way you misspelled the word “taught”; that was one thing I found quite authentic. But be careful not to misspell too much or too ridiculously. You want to keep some plausibility and make readers wonder was that REALLY someone being serious?! Prefer transposing letters over outright using the wrong ones: i.e., “peice” instead of “piece”. Also, make the hallmark mistakes of internet idiots: confuse the words “there”, “they’re” and “their”, for example. The words “too”, “two” and “to” also — which I noticed you got that one, nice work!

But your main failure was in using punctuation too much (most dumb asses only use a period and exclamation mark — never a comma, colon, semi-colon or quotation mark), going overboard with misspelling and structuring your thoughts into sentences too well. Just look at comments of morons on Youtube and learn by example! The reason I know this stuff is because I used to write masquerade letters to mess with friends and family, and some of them (after I told them it was me) told me they didn’t believe it because I made the same mistakes you did. Learn from da masta, grasshoppa!

Frederick Satiresburg: That’s a cheap ad hominem attack. If you disagree with what WWJD says then come out and say so. The trouble is, he is so aligned with your position that with a slight reduction in the bad English, it could have been a perfect parody of yourself.

The ENTIRE verse of 1 Corinthians 7:4 is this: “The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.” If you are not joking, and I sincerely hope you are, then God have mercy on you for deliberately misrepresenting His Word.

What about the scripture that commands a husband to love his wife as Christ loved the church giving His life for it. Furthermore, if you are a TRUE bible scholar you will know that a lot of scripture in the bible are historical and written in accordance to what was going on at the time. In Corinth, which the letter to the Corinthians speaks about the church was being ran basically by ceratain women because the women had money (likely through prostiution as the area was known for the worship of Aphrodite, senusality and luxery) so since they had money and were running things the church leaders were being admonished for allowing this to happen. It not a case of women being inferior to men but a classic case of (s)he who puts the most money in church rules. This should never happen in church. When Jesus pointed out to the apostles it was more honorabe that a poor widow woman gave more when she gave a mite ( a piece of money that was equal to less than our modern penny) then when the religious leaders gave gold because they had more to give. That is why the church at Corinth was being admonished for allowing women to speak. The women did not speak from God Given authority but from the arrogance of what they had monetarily. Yes a woman is supposed to submit to her husband as the church should submit to Christ. If a husband loves his wife in a Christlike manner he is NOT going to beat her. Furthermore, the bible says once people recieve Christ as their personal Lord and Savior there is neither Jew nor Greek, male nor female, slave nor free- we become one in Christ. I hate to say it but as a Christian I can see why a lot of people don’t recieve Christ. They hear the nutty stuff us so called Christians say. Not trying to be judgmental but really. What happens if a wife doesn’t respond to a gentle slap? This is insanity and not Christianity at work. Might piss you off- but I’m entitled to my beliefs.

@Adam Nelson
“Made up history”? Isn’t that what the bible and Christianity in general are all about?

@Everyone here
WOW, you people floor me, the content of this article is ridiculous. The thing I love most about the comments is the grand display of poor education, demonstrated by all of the horrid grammar and spelling. Maybe rather than going around beating women, and having a priest read the bible to you, you should go to school!

Chuck I hate people like you for over 10 years I was in an abusive relationship adn my husband used the Bible as his defense and when i went in private to my church pastor for counseling you know what he said? Pray. He told me not to get a divorce because that was not Godly and would be no good for our kids but he instead told me to Pray.

I did just that for 10 years while this drunk, aggressive, insecure, Bible hiding wimp laid his hands to me. One day I had enough, packed up the kids and went away. The divorce was instant and all I have to say to people like you is that in the end it will be God beating the tar out of your egotistical dumb behind and to pastors out there who put dogma on stupid naive young women in relationships (and yes, I was dumb for not leaving right off like I knew I should have done in my heart) I hope Satan has an extra hot spot in hell waiting for you because you’re just as much an accomplice to violence as the men doing it.

For anyone woman out there with an abusive husband who tries to justify his actions through church or you may have a retarded pastor who is not competent enough to give you relationship advice, here is words from someone who has lived it and waited ten years to leave.

GET OUT.

He is not going to change, your kids will be no better and even if you have to live in dire straits for a while it is better to live free than to live oppressed.

Your daughter gets married to a good sized guy and they come visit your home on holiday. The husband sits at the dinner table and tells the daughter to go fetch him some more rolls from the far end of the table.

She says, “No, I’m eating.”

He gives her face a little slap right in front of you, then you see your daughter quickly run and do as he told her to do, in fear. You’re telling me you would condone a man striking your daughter in your own home?

If your answer is yes, you’re a failure as father. And from what you’ve written here, if your answer is no you’re a hypocrite.

You sir need to evolve. Your narrow and outdated perceptions cause disgust for the religion you desperately cling to. You give good people a bad name with these ridiculous — NAY ABSURD —- writings. The only thing you should be praying for is a full blown epiphany which shows you how small your ideas are.

Looks to me like the vast majority of you bible thumpers missed out on a lot of genuine education–oh, like spelling and grammar. I am embarrassed for you, though not surprised. Any man–or woman–lays one finger on me, and off to jail they go. It is also true that if anyone should touch my children, off to jail they go. I have raised many children over the years, and have never spanked, or in any physical manner, delivered discipline. It is not necessary.

On another note, do you people who love your bibles so very much notice how contradictory the messages within are? This is no coincidence; each of you pulls out of the bible whatever it is that suits your needs at the time. It’s ridiculous, folks.

You realize loquacious means “given to fluent or excessive talk”? If speaking elicits a slap in your weak value system get ready to see the demise of of christian patriarchy in your lifetime. The way we think creates the way we speak they way we speak creates the way we act the way we act creates the world we live in. No slap can hold back the momentum of womens’ creation in this world. Praise to the way of the female spiritual warriors, praise to the queer homo christians thriving in your god’s love outside of your domination.

This makes me so happy to be an Atheist!!! My equally atheist boyfriend was repulsed by your article Mr. Reagan as were many people on the atheist reddit this was posted on. In fact I don’t know any secular person who would think that smacking someone man or woman to get them in line is OK in any context no matter the situation that arises (which is no doubt at the man’s discretion).

Without religion men and woman are absolutely equal and I am so filled with joy because of it no matter what any religious person says. I feel almost lucky to be free from a religion that would tolerate a man beating me whether it was a smack every now and then with the back of the hand because of my “sass” or putting me in the hospital because the my husband who professed to love me was just that much more angry at me. Or if I lived a few hundred years ago to have Mr. Reagan join in on stoning me to death under apostasy. I love being an equal because that is what I AM! I don’t think any woman should be made to feel any different no matter what some nomadic jews said 2,000 years ago. I just feel so sad for your wife and the wives of those who agree with you who get smacked by their husbands at random because the husband feels entitled to hit her through the bible or the koran.

@Chessmaster:
I was thinking the same thing, and was laughing at what I was reading, all up until I realized I do not think it is a joke…. Wow, I hope I am wrong, but if nothing else it is providing me with a TON of material on how messed up many parts of the bible are…

EVERYONE needs a good beating from time to time. This being the month of observing domestic abuse, take the extra time out to find a domestically abused individual at say your local mall, let them know that they probably deserved what they got, and shake the hand of the abuser more than likely standing next to them.
I can’t quote scripture like all ya’ll educated folks but if the good book involves a good ole fashioned beatin’, I’ll get to reading real quick!

Thanks for broadening my mind. I’ll get to work on some extra beatin’ and maybe through in an hour at church this Sunday. Obviously all the church i went to as a kid, talking ’bout turning the other cheek and that was aimed at the receiver of the abuse. Turn the other cheek so that one can get a beatin’ too. It’s all becomming so clear to me now.

Lol, women aren’t people. A gentle tap is not enough. I believe meathook sodomy is in order for any women who steps out of line, which is generally when they talk, move, look at me or anything else as vulgar.

This is a disgusting and arrogant display of the theistic allergy to reason, kindness and love.

What is an “uppity” feminist? If you don’t like her, don’t marry her. She is allowed to have her own opinions and to express them whenever and wherever she pleases. To say that you are the judge of when those opinions should be punished, while never being held accountable for your own (such as this article) is arrogant and reveals you as a convenient follower of the parts of the bible that suit you. Disgusting.

Fickle and tempermental? Condescending and disgusting.

Put her in her place? Disgusting, someone should put YOU in your place to see how it feels to be degraded like that.

A mans home is his sanctuary? What about a womans home, surely you wouldn’t have that home without her, and she shares in it equally. Her home should not be one that is subject to the barbaric whims of her opninionated husband. Sanctuary wouldn’t be defined in any book as a place where you are subject to keeping your mouth shut, or minding your manners. It is her home, she may do as she pleases, just as you may. Disgusting that men (and I use the word loosely) like you still exist. Using parts of the bible because they make you feel more important, or more valuable. Your use of those parts reveal you to be neither. You don’t kill your children for speaking out, you don’t kill atheists, you don’t choose your clothing so as not to wear cloth of different fabrics, so why do you choose this rule to follow? Simply stated because you are a coward who can’t stand up to a strong woman who knows her own mind, and whose mind may differ from yours. I pity the woman that you have serving you, and hope that she sees real love and potential to have her own sanctuary somewhere else very soon.

Further I feel that YOU are being uppity with your misogynistic ramblings and would think that they only solution is a swift, hard backhanded slap accross your face and feel that it is the only way to keep people like you in line. No one should suffer advice from your ilk. Don’t be alarmed, I have love for my fellow man, I would slap you only out of love. I would put you under my thumb out of concern for your mind overreaching itself, and out to abate any degredation that your “fickle and tempermental” opinions would have on my sancuary.

You would do best in the future to keep your immoral opinions to yourself.

To all those reading

Peace

To you Chuck Reagan? I hope you find peace and love before your wife finds it on her own.

I cannot believe that you are condoning anyone hitting or abusing a person. Why don’t you put a call out to every woman (Christian or not) who have been abused or even slapped by their husbands. Are you seriously crazy? I would have to assume that you must have done this to your wife…maybe we should get the police involved for domestic abuse.

To all the crazy guys and girls who have committed domestic abuse…do not listen to this mad man….it is WRONG! As far as reading the Bible and quoting scripture..read it again and get a Life Application Bible and read the notes on the bottom so that you can get a clearer understanding a to what Paul was stating in the book of Corinthians before you decide to open up a can of worms…

I Swear! amongst All Angels, prophets, Gods, Demi Gods and even lucifer himself…

To allow beatings on a woman makes you the Cowardly Son Of a bitch that you really are on this website. I Joined just to see what Christianity is like. and this is it?!

You make me fucking sick, your worse than Pakis! Jesus Christ! and to think theres people ACTUALLY defending it?!

I myself would beat the Fuck out of you chuck. This is why you’ll remain alone.
God save you mate. Truly, Your backward thinking will be your demise. this Article and everyone that defends it is Asinine.

Hey there, if your reading this you are laughing or crying at the shame of your naked body. REPENT SINNERS! Eat the FLESH of CHRIST and DRINK HIS BLOOD IN COMMUNION!Speak of yor dark secrets in a private booth with a lonely and reflective manchild. Eat raw whole food and worship the serpent that snake out of your dark centered colon into the white porcelain god! Eat raw sushi and think of mothers kiss. ACT NOW FOR 46% OFF ! Colonel Sanders 41:1 #5 with sprite

I just want anyone who comes across this to please understand that this is not from Christ. I noticed that many comments indicated that this completely turns them off of Christianity. Please, please, please, understand that anyone can claim they are a Christian and have it all WRONG! That is why we put our faith in Christ and not in imperfect people. Do not take this one person’s erroneous and disillusioned interpretation of God’s Word to heart and let it ruin your opinion of the entire faith. Please don’t use this man’s ridiculous attempt at attention as an excuse to turn away from seeking the true Jesus Christ. There are millions of wonderful, joyful, patient and gentle Christians out there that would interpret this site as either (1) straight from the enemy (simply a wolf in sheeps clothing and/or (2) a false and embarrassing display of a person’s free will. Either way, this is a lie.

All of you pray with everything you have that Chuck realizes his sin and prays for forgiveness

University of Dayton Law: Oh I can so sympathise with your wish to find a kind and loving version of Christianity. But sadly that is a modern, or post-modern, construct based on an ignorance of scripture. Only by being very selective can you justify the nice, kind, loving faith you so seek in the bible, and that selectivity undermines the basis for your faith in scripture. The fundamental problem here is that Chuck Reagan is entirely vindicated by the contents of the Bible. It really does justify wife beating, stoning of apostates and the killing of slaves with impunity. If you truly want a modern, kind, loving system of thought, then you will not find that in any of the Abrahamic religions which were founded on archaic Bronze Age morals, and complete ignorance of scientific reality. We know SO MUCH MORE now. You will find what you are looking for in modern Humanism. Check out your local Humanist organisations to learn more.

I don’t know- this stuff kind of excites me (minus the bad grammar)..
Is that because I’m Jewish? By the way, I just want to say, what existed before and forever is truth. And you know it. Somewhere. That’s why you’re all(the majority) so screwed up. Because you have no religion and you’re flying through a tornado of fire. The crazy christians are ..crazy and the atheists/seculars are getting divorced and frighteningly shallow.

eden123456: Check your facts. The divorce rate among US atheists is LOWER than the divorce rate among US religious couples. There is no way Bronze Age moral philosophy says anything relevant to 21st Century society. Your scripture was contemporary with Aristotle – held as the pinnacle of rational thought for 1500 years, but by today’s standards one of the most deluded philosophers of all time. Those relying on ancient scripture today are similarly deluded. The cure for religion is education. Get educated folks!

I can see that in the name of Christianity and religious dictum abuse is beign given a ‘yes’ sign as long as it is not a physical bruise. Way to go! May be Nelson here is a wife beater, probably gay too – so do you beat your wife so she won’t say a word when you have had an all nighter with your boyfriend, or boyfriends!

This discussion sucks, and I didn’t really want to get into it until I noticed how many sickos were getting a free hand just because the Internet is s free-for-all.

And as an added note I can say that if ever a man laid a hand on me, he would long be unconcious before that! But if ever he did I would make sure he has a black eye, a few broken teeth, and prison time the max he can get. And he will get smacked with a divorce too – sun of a gun that he already is!

Strong Woman: I’m a strong man. If someone disagrees with what I say I will hear a reasoned counter-argument. That is the reasonable and ethical way. If anyone strikes me for what I say, I will leave the modern way and beat them hard. I can’t imaging taking a different view if I happened to be a woman. So go girl, demand respect and take no shit from ignorant religions nuts, or anyone else. X

You are a sick disgusting man!
I can’t even begin to imagine what life must be like for your wife and kids!
Hopefully on one of these occasions when you think your wife needs what
you call a love tap she will see it for what it really is ABUSE and call the
proper authorities and you will be placed behind bars where you belong!

Do you remember what happened when they brought an adulteress to Jesus, what he said? I feel sorry for you. Next time you make a mistake, slap yourself in the face – ‘ A man who loves his wife loves himself, and if he can slap her, he can slap himself’….you are sick.

To all the people out there trying to learn about Christ..please please PLEASE disregard this ignorant, prideful, disgusting perversion of God’s word. God is loving and cares about his children. That is why he sent Christ. It says in the Bible for men to love their wives as Christ loved the church. The church denied Christ,(not respecting husband), worshiped other GOd’s (adultery) sinned (defiant behavior) what did Christ do? did he Slap up the church?? No way. Christ LOVED the church and so even though they did everything but obey him, he DIED for them!!! The attitude of this article’s author just confirms what the Bible already teaches.. that mankind is prideful, wicked, and wrong. We need Christ to help us break out of our sinful nature. As angry as I am toward this “man” I will return evil for good and say that I sincerly hope that whatever happened to you in your past to give you this outlook will be dealt with by God and that He will truely save your soul. I’ll be praying for you!

strong christian woman: Oh I can so sympathise with your wish to find a kind and loving version of Christianity. But sadly that is a modern, or post-modern, construct based on an ignorance of scripture. Only by being very selective can you justify the nice, kind, loving faith you so seek in the bible, and that selectivity undermines the basis for your faith in scripture. The fundamental problem here is that Chuck Reagan is entirely vindicated by the contents of the Bible. It really does justify wife beating, stoning of apostates and the killing of slaves with impunity. If you truly want a modern, kind, loving system of thought, then you will not find that in any of the Abrahamic religions which were founded on archaic Bronze Age morals, and complete ignorance of scientific reality. We know SO MUCH MORE now. You will find what you are looking for in modern Humanism. Check out your local Humanist organisations to learn more.

Simple answer. NO! The only execption is if a woman can fight then you can defend yourself, ONLY DEFEND NO ATTACK! For example.
[img]http://www.gamemanx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/cammy-street-fighter-4.jpg[/img]
It’s ok to defend, but no attacking.

The bible may not say that a man is to hit a woman but it clearly states that she is to submit to him. In doing that if your husband so chooses to correct you in a manner of a slight slap on the face or bottom than you must submit to that.

My husband would never hit my face, ever, as he has the Holy Ghost in him. In that I fully trust he will do what is right by me. He treates me like the softest kitten knowing I am his and his alone. However like all woman (or at least all that I know) I do have from time to time push him. I back talk or sass him or don’t fully submit the first time around. There for he has given me a spanking that trust me hurt but the sting was far better than going to battle over a power struggle. I immediantly submitted after that and honestly felt so much closer and admittedly much better behaved. We have a relationship that others dream of and I fully believe it is because I follow God’s plan to submit to my husband and he follows that plan by finding a means of which works for us and brings us closer. As hard as it is for him (and sometimes it has been very difficult for him and me) he does it because he loves me and he submits to God as I submit to him.

Meg: My wife and I have been together for 27 years. Neither is dominant, neither submissive. We respect and love each other. Sometimes we disagree and we discuss it. Rarely we argue, but always come to a resolution. Sometimes she is wrong and learns from me. Sometimes I am wrong and I learn from her. There is no way one person is always right and another always wrong. If she submitted to my will when she knew I was wrong, that would undermine our loving marriage and replace it with an abusive relationship based on dominance. We couldn’t go on that way. I do hope someday you will learn that you have an equal value to your husband, and that you can learn to treat both him and yourself with enough respect to demand an equal say to him in your marriage. X

On the off chance that you’re serious about this, and this web site of yours isn’t just a satire like that “Landview Baptist Church” think, I think it’s worth pointing out that anyone following your advice who actually strikes another person (even if that person is his wife), would be facing jail time.

If I were on the jury and you came before me trying to justify assault and battery on the grounds of the words of your imaginary friend, I would sure as hell vote to convict.

Yay discrimination. It’s all about saying people are superior based on external characteristics! Or indeed, in this case, external genitalia. And going so far as to add that this superiority bestows the right to commit violent acts against lesser beings, well; that’s in contravention of the below. Using tradition (by which I mean folklore, religious texts and other magick) to incite violence is utterly incompatible with the spirit of the Gospels you so admire, which are about understanding, forgiveness and tolerance irrespective of differences.

Apparently you take “Liberalism” to mean:
* Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
* No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

Thank you for this enlightening and most importantly correct article. Women, as deemed by the Lord God, has instructed the man to discipline the woman where need be.

I have disciplined my wife on more than one occasion. Many in fact. I’m beginning to doubt the word of the Lord because I have my suspicions that my wife now enjoys the discipline. She deliberately sass’s me and when I paddle her, her cries now morph into groans of pleasure.

In an attempt to cease these Satanic utterances, I purchased a ball-gag and force her to wear it when I paddle her. Unbelievably this seems to have encouraged her further.

I am now considering, binding her with ropes, and maybe some nipple torture. Hitting it where it hurts would be good for her.

Suggestions welcome. I need to discipline this harlot for the sake of our marriage and our Lord.

Most definitely, you should purchase a riding crop, for those times when the paddle just isn’t swift enough. It covers less ground, but leaves a more ringing sting. This should definitely change her tune.

Also, don’t be afraid to break out ropes and leather. Candle wax may even be a good means of discipline.

I came across this website tonight because I was researching scripture relating to women and abuse for the Christian woman and the Islam woman for a college course that I needed to complete. I cannot believe that we have people in this country who claim they are Christians that say beating or slapping or tapping a woman is okay.

It’s funny that we don’t like Muslims because their culture and religion is different than ours, the terrorists have gotten to us and now we need to do something yet here we are accepting the way they treat women by doing it in our country and that God said it was okay. Maybe you should believe in The Koran rather than the Bible. My Bible says we should submit but both husband and wife are to submit to each other to preserve the marriage just as Christ loved the church.

If you want to quote scripture how about Ephesians 5:22-33?

29 – After all no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as christ does the church…

Do you care for your body or do you hit it and slap it? Trying doing the same and thinking the same about women.

It’s unfortunate for the woman who is single or divorced and is hoping to find a Christian man without this type of mentality and you wonder why we stop looking altogether! It’s a shame because we end up saying that “all men are jerks” and can’t see when a good one walks in front of us.

Ok, seriously hun, all I heard there was, “blah, blah, blah I’m a feminesbian, blah, blah, blah.” Why don’t you go chew on some carpet, or whatever it is you people do, and leave the big people talk to the men who know what’s in your best interest, ok?

Whatever…it’s people like you that makes this place worse…I posted my opinion, apparently you don’t like it…well that is your problem, not mine! And by the way, I can take care of myself just fine…so blah, blah, blah…yourself!

Follow-up question–is it OK for a Christian husband to gently murder his wife? Cuz I gotta say, that woman gets on my NERVES from time to time, what with her restraining orders and hospital bills, and it seems like Christ would want me to give her a gentle stab in the face. I’m just sayin’.

You people DARE call yourselves Christians?! You make me SICK. Jesus Christ NEVER said to treat someone like that, need I remind you that he said to “love your neighbor as yourself”, and that a man and his wife were of “one flesh”. You idiots, if you strike your own flesh and blood, that means you might as well go around striking everyone. YOU WILL BE SUED FOR THAT BEHAVIOUR, AND RIGHTFULLY SO YOU BROOD OF VIPERS.

Liberals make me sick. NO one who spent any time properly studying ALL of the bible would complain about this article. God`s word is very clear about the domain of man over women. But Liberals dont get it because they put what they hear in colleges above the Word of God. Christians arent making this stuff up – feminism is wrong, homosexuals is wrong – we know this becuase the bible teaches us this. God`s truth is not up for discussion. Women may not like being subservient to men but that doesn`t make it untrue and it certainly doesnt make God wrong – as we know that is impossible and to say so is blasphemous.

Chuck, I’ll agree with your logic if I you agree to have a separate tent for your wife when she’s menstruating and immediately cease wearing clothes made of more than one fiber. Oh, and start keeping Kosher.

And I might add that there are some folks in Afghanistan who are *totally* into your view of scriptural authority.

Bill is smarter than Hillary? Unless I’m mistaken, Bill received a blowjob from an intern. Or had you forgotten that?

You have no evidence that Bill is smarter than Hillary. And my dad has a higher paying job than my mom, but that’s typical in this sexist society. It is not an indicator of intelligence. My mom and my dad are equal, and they view each other as equal.

Stop cranking up the excuse machine please, feminist. Men get paid more because they are better at work. Women have equal rights, but just not always equal ability. Though his political ideals are horrible and not American, Bill Clinton did show ability to give good, charismatic speeches and academically, earned his way through an Ivy League education unlike his wife, who was born wealthy and sent through such education on the fumes of her hardworking father.

Colossians 3:19 (you know, that little verse right after the whole submit to your husbands thing?)

19 And you husbands must love your wives and never treat them harshly.

Reconcile this abusive bullshit with that.

Women are not children, to be spanked when you feel they are not listening properly. They are adults, your partners, your helpmeets, and Christ never laid a hand on a woman, nor anyone in his church. He instructs men to love your wives as he loves the Church.

I am praying for the women who endure this kind of abuse. You don’t have to leave a mark to abuse your wife.

There is nothing ‘harsh’ about a gently tap of affection placed upon the wife’s lovely face or forearm. The Bible forbids harsh treatment, which is just gross and sick if any husband treats his wife in such ways. It is a sin unto God.

But giving her just a little, Godly tap — ever so swift, so swift — I think that’s alright and she will too. God spends his wrath with great swiftness and after a period of tarrying, and husbands should do the same. In the end, even though it will hurt the husband more than his wife and kids, the loving discipline will make the family more strongly knit.

“There is nothing ‘harsh’ about a gently tap of affection placed upon the wife’s lovely face or forearm.”

As I’ve said before, abuse is abuse no matter how “gentle”. Physical force should NEVER be used against someone who you supposedly love.

“But giving her just a little, Godly tap — ever so swift, so swift — I think that’s alright and she will too.”

No, she WON’T think it’s alright, you piece of shit!

Women are ADULTS, and should be treated as such. Any “man” who thinks he has the right to discipline his wife as though she were a possession is not showing any respect whatsoever! Women are adults and should be treated as such!

Absolutely, Clair! When will these neanderthals get it into their heads that we’re not children and that we will speak and behave as we like because we are adults. We are not their servants or chattels and they have no right whatsoever to abuse or ‘discipline’ us? I’m heartened to see than there are quite a few more enlightened types disagreeing with them. It gives me a little more hope for the church.

Please, womenfolk. Submit to the commandments of God! There are no other commandments worthy of you. The word of God is written. Follow it! Failure to do so is to embrace the eternal punishment. So is it written.

All these fascinating euphemisms. “A little tap”, “loving discipline”, “keeping her in her place”, “encouraging Christian submission”, “reminding them who’s in charge”. It’s all domestic violence and will land you in gaol. It’s not acceptable, ever, and is the mark of a worthless, cowardly man who isn’t his wife’s equal, never mind her superior!

Most of the objections to disciplining the wife are just idiotic, though there are a few attempts at good ones. Scripture neither demands no prohibits such a practice. Scripture teaches love, unity and the headship of the man in marriage.

The objections come in when sisies equate agreed-upon punishment with hatred and abuse. It is not. It is love. I had many such relationships before I decided to get married, and found that plenty of women, from the meekest to the rudenst, know that punishment can do them some good.

Doesn’t God love you? Hasn’t He ever taught you a lesson the hard way?…Love can include punishment. Hatred, at times, can be apathetic. Get over it.

I pray to God, good sir, that you are not married, and echo previous sentiments that NOTHING justifies physical punishment against a loving spouse. Let me further add that, if my own husband were to do anything remotely similar to what you describe, I’d promptly reciprocate that love tap. And then some.

Then again, I’ve committed the gravest of sins, apparently, and assumed headship in my own house. Egast! Women leadership! I can see those four horsemen already!

My sincere hope for you, sir, is that you are one day reincarnated as a woman in Iraq, and thus, forced to feel firsthand the humiliation and degradation that patriarchy has thrust upon the superior sex. And nope. I don’t mean you boys.

To gently fuck is to gently guide is to gently beat. You have foolishly chosen to abandon the scripture. Don’t you understand? This is the word of GOD!!! Why would GOD steer you incorrectly? GOD is GOD!!! Swallow you womanly pride, for GOD’s sake, along with your man’s ejaculate. Learn your place. It is the mandate of GOD!!! GOD cannot lie to you, as man can. GOD will not lie to you!!! Observe the scripture, and open your mouth to man. Anything less is blasphemy!!!

*Truly Atheist posting under his real name, Truly Atheist sounds pretentious and I don’t want anything to do with Christianity so I’m now just Alex*

I know this debate is a couple of months old now but quite frankly it completely disgusts me, for numerous reasons:

1) The sheer number of people who seem to be in favour of domestic violence (It is domestic violence, if she takes you to court that is what you will be charged with and it being a “Godly tap” will not be any defence. I know that most people were either being sarcastic or joking but there were still scarily a few people who weren’t regular posters (those that are are just too far down the path of evil to be turned, and ought to be slowly lowered into concentrated sulfuric acid)

2) The actual article itself. I absolutely loathe all forms of discrimination. I’m quite privileged, coming from a middle class British background, my IQ is 134 and I go to a good grammar school. At that school everyone gets respected whatever gender or whatever. There are just about as many Boys as Girls, and on the whole I would have no doubt that the girls would get jobs at least as good as, if not significantly better, than most of the boys, they aren’t in anyway incompetent. Also the black students aren’t in anyway inferior, and there’s even a small homosexual population at the school (I’m a white heterosexual male so there’s absolutely no bias in this what so ever). There is no fucking superior race/sexuality/gender/whatever.

If you and your wife disagree on a matter then she is just as likely to be right as you are, if you give her even the gentlest of taps to keep her in line then you are forcing your opinion, which may well be wrong, on her. The only difference between you two is the guy (probably) is physically stronger, and that does not make it ok to use this advantage to control your wife. Your supposed to love each other, not fucking settle arguments by coming to blows.

To anyone who says that its just a gentle tap, your still warning her your prepared to smack her, it still hurts her, and I have no doubt if she still didn’t submit you would hit her.

Anyone who gives the ok to domestic violence, in the event of there being a God and everyone with 2 brain cells to rub together being wrong, you will be going to hell in a flash, and your last memory will be the laughter of Atheists who get sent to heaven for treating their wife and everyone around them kindly.

Basically if you say it’s ok to hit her when she doesn’t do the cooking, your saying whenever you step a toe out of line, she ought to be able to smack you, and you can’t retaliate, at that moment you submit.

1/4 women suffer from domestic abuse, you might think your wife isn’t one of them if you just give her a slap every now and then to keep her in line but she is. You can get jail time for it, you deserve a slow and painful death for it. There is no excuse for it whatever, you are equal. Don’t try and hide behind the bible, people have launched crusades, tortured and committed hideous evil over a misinterpretation of the bible, how can you be sure this isn’t a misinterpretation? You are basically saying that for no reason what so ever you value yourself above your wife, and treat her more like a slave than an equal (some “Christian’s” use the bible as an excuse for raping their wives). If women were naturally stronger than men (try to imagine that without thinking along the I would never marry someone who was completely butch or whatever…) how would you like it if your wife smacked you every so often to keep you in line and claimed God said she could do it.

Any fucking arse hole who can smack their wife and hide behind their twisted version of the bible deserves to have their wife pick up a wine bottle and smash it over your fucking head, and then to set fire to the wine as it dribbles down your face, as the glass shards slice your head open in 50 different places.

If you ever had any proper talk or anything on any subject with any female (that is to say beyond the realms of: I want dinner now, or we’re going to have sex tonight) you would realise that they are no worse than you.

Oh and just to add, although I never ever intend to hit any girlfriend/wife I have under any circumstance (unless they attack me with a frying pan for example ofc), in the unbelievably unlikely event that I for some reason did lose my cool and hit them, no matter how likely I would honestly let them take their best shot at my face, if I hit them hard then they can use a tennis racket or something, as a way of showing that I was in the wrong and that I’m extremely sorry for it. If they wanted they could devise some other punishment instead, if you really care about some one and lose your cool with them then you ought to make it up to them with very large amounts of compensation.

*Truly Atheist posting under his real name, Truly Atheist sounds pretentious and I don’t want anything to do with Christianity so I’m now just Alex*

Your heart is in the right place. And yet you would still defy the only living GOD! How can you live, defying the commandment of the living GOD who is the source of all life? Just because your peers have embraced the falsehood is no excuse for you to defy the living GOD!!! You are a fool, and if you have any sense whatsoever, you will fall to your knees and beg forgiveness from the only living GOD!!! Your ejaculate is worthy only to spill into the gutter of foolishness. Embrace the living GOD, and ejaculate into the womb of loving forgiveness!!!

THIS SITE IS A HOAX (and i will tell you why). I could not help posting to this absolutely absurd display of ignorance, outrage and contention. I love it.

I am Catholic, and I am also liberal, and as such one of my biggest gripes with American culture are all of the christians and religious maniacs out there who are making me look bad by association. Now that being said, I am almost absolutely convinced that this website is the property of one extremely upset athiest who has the elaborate idea to build a very professional website as if it were written by the most ignorant back-water hick in the history of ol’ Kentuckey. The purpose of such an ingenious venture would be two fold:
1) to make Christianity and Christian values look bad
2) to draw other equally stupid people to the site to agree with said values, and to perpetuate the same values of hate, thus enforcing the first goal

Now, tell me that this site isn’t in at least some way satirical after reading the titles of the following articles:
“I am extremely terrified of Chinese People”
“Homosexuality, The Enemy Within”
“Is Video Gaming a Threat to America’s High School Jock Culture?”

For f*ck’s sake, it’s a website that supports exclusion, homophobia, wife-beating, and “Christianity.” It’s actually pretty clever, but come on, you are being manipulated.

This site is a joke right? I’m trying to look for the little print that assures me this is a comedy website and nothing here that the ‘journalist’ says should be taken seriously (which regardless if it’s real or not I can’t).

“Now that is immoral and even if your wife cheats on you, [b]which if this was a few hundred years ago I would personally help you stone her to death for[/b], this day and age you just do not beat a woman like that. It is sick.”

Sorry that one part of the sentence made it sound like you’re trying to justify wanting to stone a woman to death if given the chance, if this country allowed it… Also I never understood exactly why only a woman should be given that punishment and not a man for doing the exact same thing.

You are a fool to believe that a simple website could represent the teachings of the one and only living GOD. As HE made the universe, so he will make your punishment. Prepare to submit to the painful, eternal punishment of the only living GOD!!!

Again….THIS SITE IS A JOKE. This is not true Christianity at all, whatsoever. It’s a parody, whatever. Please read THOSE comments by people who realize this. Seriously, if anyone reads this they either should quickly catch on that it’s a joke or – EVEN if this person were thinking they were true, other people should not automatically view them as being true Christians and base their view of Christianity off this guy’s site.

SO-CALLED Christians can have truly messed up, extremist thinking. It’d be about as useless as me claiming to be an atheist and go around preaching about God. If I didn’t really NOT believe and made a site claiming to be atheist but then saying that Creationism is highly supported, God could be at work, etc, etc, do you think people would think that was typical atheist beliefs? Of course not. What if I made the same claims – because technically I could masquerade as an atheist. And I could say that since everything supposedly evolved from NOTHING, there is no basis or common ground for morality thereby making it OK to beat your spouse, your kids, cheat on your spouse, steal, etc. Who cares when there’s no basis? Yet if atheists were to come across that, they’d probably be initially duped the same way and quickly come to realize that I was a Christian mocking an atheist.

Just give it up people. This guy is setting out to deliberately make Christians look bad. And to anyone who buys it, it feeds the negative image Christians already have. But we have that negative image because the majority of Christians seem to be “so-called Christians” and not truly Christ-like so if you really are worried for this guy – pray for him. But don’t waste your time trying to dispute him. You’re only feeding the fire.

Is this even for real? The more I read this site, the more I think it’s just a joke making fun of over-zealous religious nuts. I’m personally a Christian, Baptist to be exact, and I’ve never been taught garbage like this. Furthermore, it’s important to keep in mind that the Bible remained largely under the control of the murderous Catholic Church/Roman Empire for centuries and they arbitrarily altered scriptures to their liking. Also keep in mind that the Bible is a TRANSLATION, so taking it literally word-for-word is not an option. So unless your reading these verses in the original Aramaic or Greek, please shut up and stop blaspheming the cause of Christ, because it’s a good one.

A wife is an independent person who has every right to speak her mind and do as she chooses. Her husband has no right to beat her for doing either. Spouses should be loved and reasoned with, there is never any excuse for violence.

It’s this kind of apology for domestic violence that prevents the church from being taken seriously.

I just wanted to say I am praying for all of you…its terrible to hear so many supposedly christian women seemingly justifying their disobedience of their husbands. Lets look at this logically; if our lord and saviour had not wanted to grant men the responsibility of maintaining his word in the family, then he would not have given them greater intelligence and physical strength. Its only logical that if God had intended women to gently discipline men, he would have given them the superior strength. Therefore the evidence is there in our very being – the husband is the physically strongest in any family and the terrible burden of maintaining a decent christian household must fall to him. As I am always telling my flock, Women honor and obey your husbands. This also includes understanding when he takes the burden of reminding you of your christian duty by gently..and I do mean gently..disciplining you, just as he may too be forced to occasionally slap the children for similar. I would never condone forcible violence, but a simple sharp and prompt slap on a woman’s face or buttocks (as practised by many of my parishoner’s within their families) is a responsibility given to husbands by God and I frankly condemn any man who fails in his christian duty to do so and uphold his word. Christian Wives next time your husband gently disciplines you, remember how hard it is for him; the most christian thing for you to do is to apologise to him for making it necessary, not criticize him with fashionable, modern, un-christian and uncharitable arguements about domestic violence. As a Pastor and a husband I know the difference – we are talking here about a gentle reminder of god’s laws. Two very different things. God Bless.

Come on Ladies show some charity! Showing the family discipline and maintaining a christian household is a great burden. Accept the criticism and apologise for your behaviour, remember its not easy for him to follow god’s wishes sometimes either. God Bless.

This is why there needs to be more atheists in the word. What kind of guy would even think of a question like this just because your a “christian” you think its ok to “gently beat” your wife and how do you gently beat her, i’m a little confused or that.

To answer your question: NO!!! A man does not have the right to hit his wife. Sickos like you make me sick and glad that I have stopped attending church. I chose to serve the Lord by being kind to those around me than to twist words written by men to cause suffering and misery to others. You people have the same destructive potential toward human life as the Taliban!

You are not a Christian.
You worship yourself over Jesus.
You have accepted hatred into your life.
You mislead people on purpose.
You are a deceiver.
You are a violent thug.
You hate American freedom.
You will be judged harshly in the afterlife for your refusal to humble yourself, to pass judgement as if you were God himself, not his servant.
You are Satan’s left hand.
You are dirty and shameful and full of arrogance.
You have not spent your time with the scriptures.
You misrepresent the word of God.
Your religiousness is false and self-serving.
You have accepted ugliness over the beauty of God.
You are dying a spiritual death.
You are already dead.
God hates you.

You are not a Christian.
You worship your self over Jesus.
You have accepted hatred into your life.
Yopu have become hatred itself.
You mislead people on purpose.
You are a deceiver.
You hate American freedom.
You will be judged harshly in the afterlife for your refusal to humble yourself, to pass judgement as if you were God himself, not his servant.
You are Satan’s left hand.
You are dirty and shameful and full of arrogance.
You have not spent any time with the scriptures.
You misrepresent the word of God.
Your religiousness is false and self-serving.
You have accepted ugliness over the beauty of God.
You are dying a spiritual death.
You are already dead.
God hates you.

If this were truly a right-wing, fringe site, do you really think “Chuck” and his web minions would allow any comments in here that didn’t fully align with their agenda? It has to be parody. I mean really, it has to — or there are some very unhinged people out there.

[...] Instead, households worldwide are liberal breeding grounds. When I published the original article, Is It Okay For A Christian Husband to Gently Beat His Wife, there was a surprising outrage from men and women, as if I dared to mention more than [...]

You are disgusting. I cannot believe there are people who still believe this. All I can hope that no one listens to the vomit that comes from your website, and that hopefully it is shut down for all the unlawful slander it spouts.

Frankly I’m devastated that you are using the Christian faith as an excuse for your criminal activity. If the Christian church could publicly disown you, believe me they would. Jesus himself probably would.

Oh and if this is a parody (I initially thought it was because surely no one actually is this unintelligent, but way too much effort for a joke) you’ve taken it too far buddy.

OMG. This has got to the strangest thing I was ever read. A godly little tap…Sean Connery being held up as an example of the right thing to do…Who in their right mind would write something like this? You must be mentally disturbed. I hope the women in your life have taken out restraining orders. O.O

This has to be a joke site. That’s the only explanation for the willful bastardization of the bible that ONCE AGAIN pseudo-Christians who may have sadomasochistic tendencies decide to use to help them sleep at night after a hard day of beating the lippy wife! The author of this should be flogged or smitten HIMSELF, and the jerks that support this kind of behavior have deep rooted abuse issues looking for justification to abuse their family members. The same twisted logic that Terrorists use to saw off the heads of people whom they oppose ideologically. Oh yes. I lump this trash right “down” there with the same.

STOP USING THE BIBLE TO FURTHER THE JUSTIFICATION OF YOUR BAD BEHAVIOR YOU LOWBROW CRETINS!

A gentle “love tap” is a good way of lettin your woman know when she’s crossed the line. It is dark circumstances when a woman forces a man’s hand against her. But it is to protect her soul against the hell-fires of Satan. For if a woman disobeys her man, she disobeys God’s law.

Hmmm. then i guess it’s ok to gently dunk my children’s head under water for ten seconds or so..?
you know.. to gently re-assert my powers over them.
or, you know…scald them with boiling water once a week…or how about a few punches in the face every month…just so they know who’s boss.
yeah?

One more thought… If I’m a lesbian.. and I’m the butch and the other lady is a fem.. and we both attend a “friendly” church on Sunday.. what then? Can I beat her if she steps out of line..? Or do I need to get a gender op for this to be appropriate?

Can I beat a Christian woman (en) who I am not married to but sleeping with and in a commited relationship(s) with? Is it okay to tie them up if they misbehave instead of hitting them? If I tie her(s) up… can I have sex with her while she is tied thusly.. therby not causing her any pain and asserting my masculinity and teaching (hers) a Godly lesson WHILE I get off? Sorry.. my english is vewy bad. This is a real question.. No intention of fun making at the author of this article.

Phew, I finally finished reading all of those comments. It was quite entertaining.
One particulary person who caught my eye was ‘Adam Nelson’ who does not seem to be joking (even though most of us want to believe that). So to Adam Nelson:

I’m going to start off by saying although you seem to be brought up a different way, what you are saying is immorally wrong. The story of Adam and Eve for one matter is usually interpreted incorrectly. It was a story to let people know it is not good to fall into temptation. And although ‘man’ is used in the bible a lot it refers to both females and males just as the tern ‘human’ does. Another point is that you as a human cannot prove God is a he or a her. In the early gospels God is said to be a she; however now God is refered as ‘the father’ or a he. We as humans cannot fully comprehend what God is exactly, since we have not experianced God’s power ourselves. Another thing- you say that a man correcting his wife or leading her away from temptation by a tap is not abuse. That statement is unintelligent. Both men and women fall into temptation (usually men fall into larger temptations such as stealing or murder). Sure, most men are physically stronger than women; however that is not proof enough that men are better. It is not a man’s job to keep his wife from temptation. Most men (and I do not mean offence) base their judgement on rash decisions and ther wife usually calms or comforts them. It is not a woman’s job to cook for her husband- it is because she is usually better at it. it is not a woman’s job to clean and watch over their children- it is because children are closer to their mothers because they were in her womb, and because women are usually neater. A woman is not a gift to a man- The man see’s her as a companion as she sees him as one. You, Adam, have got your facts mixed. You may have your opinion, but do not mix your interpretation with God’s word. You, as the same as any other woman or man, have temptations. Yet you think you do not need anyone to ‘gently tap’ you. Always remember, you are not God (i’m not saying you think that) you cannot say that what you say is a fact. Remember that humans are humans.

Anyway i just wanted to sound cool since i really don’t care what you or any other fool thinks
Honestly though, if a man thinks he has the power to keep a woman in line by giving her a ‘gentle tap’ than let him be put in line and let the woman be the one to give him a ‘gentle tap’.
Also to submissive women, you are either:
1) interpreting the bible wrong
2) like to get hit or abused either physically/mentally (in other words a masochist)
3) been brought up wrong (please do not take offense this is my opinion)
4) a fool (please do take offense)

if you are either 1 or 2 look at different views on the bible. A man has no right to lay a finger on you if you do not wish it. If you are 3 do not use the bible in order to let a man spank/beat you. it’s sickening. And if you are 4 there is no hope for you.

Hey, hey! What I wanna know is if the sass and the frass is consensual?!!! I mean I am all for couples giving each other loving lashes so long as it is consensual and there is a ball gag and rope involved and it is a two-way street! Sayyyy…so if you wife starts to sass, maybe what she is really trying to say is…”OHHHH! Look what you made me do, honey!!!!” sorry, but a woman is an adult, not a child, and if she is still acting like one, then it is probably her parent’s fault for home-schooling her and never teaching her how to read!!!!! therefore, violence is only ok if it is a consensual form of foreplay.

I go to this website because it is hilarious. The people that write this garbage are crazy and very uneducated. If you ever tapped my on my face, I’d shove your balls through your mouth. I love that you think you are spreading God’s word. You’ll all be disappointed when you spend eternity in hell for teaching such ridiculous garbage. I’d like to point out that I’m not too worried about people really taking this stuff seriously. Your website is the equivalent of Perezhilton.com. A team of losers who post nonsense on a website for shock value. The only people that actually take you seriously are unintelligent inbreds that are either sterile or will produce even stupider children. Go ahead and hit your woman… she’ll get you in your sleep or wait till you’re old and senile and then neglect/abuse you.

You’re insane and it’s Christians like you that turned me away from Christianity. You’re disgusting and I’m sure Jesus would be real proud. Since you follow the bible and report to be an avid Christian doing your duty, how do you feel about Jesus being black? It says right in the bible that he came from Ethiopia with skin as dark as night and his hair was as a sheep’s wool!! And the fact that Jesus was NOT born on December 25th but adopted by Christians from a Pagan holiday celebrating the Winter Solstice and the rebirth of the Sun God that Christians adopted to avoid being persecuted for their oulandish beliefs that there was only one true God????? People like you twist the Bible to suit your own pathetic needs to power!

A despicable article and MORE DESPICABLE are these idiot, pseudo-christian men who call themselves men, think themselves as so-called followers of Christ and “leaders’ of house and justify a “gentle slap” (????!!!!! LOL hilarious as much evil and immoral idea in the beginning) on women. You know what?? women aren’t stupid, immature animals needed to be disciplined. Do you think Jesus would allow such behaviour on women?? what the hell is that? My advice : read what JOHN CHRYSOSTOME says about this : “If a man should have a bad-tempered wife, it is his obligation not to become irritated, but rather to humbly consider this tragedy the handiwork of God, punishing him for his sins. “Your wife may wage war against you,” says Chrysostom, “She may meet you when you return home in a rage, wielding her tongue like a sword. It is sad when your helpmate becomes your enemy! But examine yourself. Did you never harm a woman in your youth? And thus that wound, inflicted by you on another woman, is now being healed by a woman, and the ulcer of another woman is being cauterized by your own wife. That a bilious wife is a punishment to the sinner is written in the Scriptures. A bad-tempered wife will be given to a sinning husband, given as a bitter antidote which will dry up the evil juices of the sinner.”

If, as Chrysostom teaches, an ill-tempered wife is a divine punishment, then clearly, the husband must endure it with absolute patience, and therefore nothing can justify physical violence against a wife. This violates the teachings on Christian patience and indulgence, and the understanding of love, which a husband must always maintain. Chrysostom emphatically condemns that inhumane treatment of wives which one frequently encounters, especially among the lower classes, as the highest degree of cruelty and barbarity.

To correct the inadequacies of a wife, he recommends patient reasoning, not vituperation, and certainly not violence. “If a man beats his wife,” he says, “it is a great dishonor, not only to her, but also to him.

so that explains why you had to marry your sister….daddy was already beating on mommy so that territory was taken. But its ok adam, i’ll beat on you LOVINGLY all nite long, I’ll get the coconuts ready baby, now all you gotta do is step over that sweet little line of yours so i can backhand you like i did your meatbag sister.

Eph 5:28 “In the same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated his own body, but feeds it and cares for it, just as Christ does the Church.

“or do you think people should not discipline their kids as well?’
you are suggesting that a woman is like a child. what an arrogant stupid thing to say. women are smarter than men and that gets to them. men run out of words and hit women. there is no other reason that men hit women. men are dumb and they fluster easily. they don’t have emotional control so they strike out when their brain freezes.

ok.. so if its ok for a man to give a “gentle tap” to his wife when she crosses the line… its ok for a woman to do the same… right? or the rule of thumb… only hit the husband with a ruler no wider than her thumbs??? i thinks that its TOTALLY STUPID for anybody to say that its ok to hit a woman… no matter what! a woman can speak her mind whenever and where ever she wants…. screw the husband if he doesnt like it… obviously if the comment is disrespectul towards anyone… just let her know…. WITH WORDS that it wasnt a good comment… and women should do the same… towards the husband… but no hitting… thats wrong and disrespectul towards women…

show me the “rule of thumb” in the scriptures. and news for you you illiterate inbred freak, you ever tried “diseplin” a real woman, i’m sure you like little girls, but if you ever tried to “diseplin” a real woman, you wouldn’t live to enjoy it.

I honestly hope that you are joking. Because if you are not then I am afraid to say that you are a disgusting human being, a terrible and abusive husband and a terrible example to your poor children. You think that it is ok to place yourself in a position over your wife to the point where you can physically abuse her? AND your excuse is that you aren’t using a big enough stick to really hurt her? What would you think if I came into your house and beat you when you offended me, all the while ensuring that you were never really injured? Does that show that I am a loving friend? Clearly not, it would only show that I am an aggrandizing jackass whose god makes him into a waste of skin.

You sir, disgust me.

I hope that your wife wakes up and leaves you for the real man that she only dreams about having now.

You’re twisting the Bible for your own agenda. A man is responsible for his family and has to make sure they don’t fall into sin. How can he do his job if his wife is just talking back and going out to adulterate with other men?

In the old days women could be stoned for betraying their husbands, and as such a firm, strong hand was needed to lovingly keep your wife from being killed by law.

The same is such today. If your kid runs out into the street, you don’t hurt them but give them maybe a light tap on the backside. “No.”, you tell them.

If your wife talks back or complains about cooking supper, you just give her a light little tap. “No.”, so she knows she is out of line and in great danger.

Again, a woman is NOT a child. If I’m wrong, show me the scripture that says that a woman is like a child!
I echo what Adrian said about Christ telling the angry mob who was about to stone the woman found in adultry, “Any one of you who is without sin, cast the first stone”.
Is a man to be “tapped” on the cheek by his wife to keep him from adultry? Surely it is just as great a sin for a man to betray his wife as it is for a woman to betray her husband.

Do unto others as you would have others do unto you… if you would not be ok with your wife “tapping” you on the cheek to put you in you place, perhaps you should repent to the Lord for your hypocritical heart and actions.

When a woman marries a man, she becomes a gift unto the man just as a man was made as a gift unto God. Children are a gift unto parents.

It is a man’s responsibility to lead his family along the path of righteousness. Even if a woman deviates and partakes in sin, it is the man’s job to show his family the right way again.

You can do this with words. “Sweetheart, do not watch immoral tv shows they are bad for you and bad influence for the kids.”

“Yes, dear, you’re right,” would be the correct response. Now some discussions could end there, but there are some women who just keep pushing and like Eve when she let Satan tempt her, will keep trying to invite the devil in.

It’s in cases like those where a man must be more assertive. Adam failed in that regard right from the start, and God punished him for it just like he’ll punish any man who doesn’t keep his family in line.

It’s not a matter of beating your wife, that’s wrong and immoral for this modern day and age. I think we all agree on that. It is a matter of taking reasonable actions and sometimes a husband needs to display his assertiveness in a more persuasive manner.

Also, since you’re obviously a cherry-picker your little question about the hussy in the parable was not married to anyone in the crowd and Jesus word was law. That has nothing to do with a husband, his wife and having THE BIBLE set in print to give lessons on how to teach and how to discipline when the time comes. A woman needs her discipline from her husband and a husband in turn takes his discipline from our holy Savior.

You, Mr. Nelson have yet to show a verse in scripture that condones a man slapping his wife in any manner. The Bible states in Eph. 5 to love your wife as your own body. Would you abuse your own body.If you are married I pray for your wife. No women ever deserves to be given a “love tap” EVER!! God commands husbands to honor their wives and wives to respect there husbands. You take a vow at marraige to love and honor. Abuse is NOT honoring!

actually women who submit to wisdom I half agree with you a lot of men actually start talking with their wife instead of hitting them or if they don’t have word they just go Outside for a walk and think

well I actually don’t agree to beat women really it’s would be stupid

I can recognize when a Woman is right and I can admit my wrongness and woman can do it as well

But sadly even if I disagree with the part that Men are dumbs compared to women ( I prefer to said we are equally Intelligent ) that actually Men Out there who are very stupid and use brute force to prove their Point it’s simply wrong