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Thursday, December 24, 2009

Telangana XXV: Congratulations Andhra

Congratulations Andhras! Today Andhras have once again won against their arch rivals Telanganas.The goal score stands at 200-0.

The game is still on.Telanganas have been facing the onslaught of the majority Andhras for fifty years now and are being ruthlessly and mercilessly beaten, but looks like there is no respite for Telangana because Andhras are not letting Telangana stop the game.Andhras want to continue the game and keep Telangana playing so that they can better their score.They want to break all records eventually, that of Nizam rule of Telangana, British occupation of India, Sri Lankan suppression of Tamils, that of Israeli occupation of Palestine, that of White discrimination of Blacks.May be they want to keep the game on so that one day they can even break the record of Nadir Shah and Genghis Khan.

Andhras scored the first goal within the first second of the game when Neelam Sanjeeva Reddy dismissed the idea of Deputy CM that was agreed upon in Gentlemen’s Agreement right on 1st November of 1956, thereby starting the saga of humiliation of Telanganas.

Later on, every point of Gentlemen’s Agreement was flouted meticulously making the score 10-0.All the agreements of 1960s were flouted.Various GOs that were agreed upon were eventually flouted.The decimation of Telangana has just begun. It was the turn of irrigation where every agreement was ignored depriving the region of its share of water decreasing the irrigated land of 20 Lakh Acres in 1956 to 12 Lakh Acres in 2004, thereby proving that Telangana was better off under Nizam Regime than under Andhra Regime. With that the score reached 100-0.

Andhras scored a major victory when they launched ‘Jai Andhra’ movement to seek a separate state in 1973 to overturn a Supreme Court ruling that protected Telanganas.Then it was the case of government jobs.25,000 illegal jobs based on bogus Mulki certificates were given to Andhras by 1975 and about 60,000 illegal jobs by 1985.The score reached 150-0.

For the last twenty years, Telangana was cheated on every front, from moving funds that belonged to Telangana to Andhra, from allocation of lopsided budgets for colleges and schools favoring Andhras, stalling implementation of GO 610 and other presidential orders.The score was standing at 199-0 last night.

Tonight, Andhras have done very well for themselves.They have used the power of majority to cow the minority into submission.They used fasts, riots on streets, protests, strikes, bandhs, and even antics like fleeing from Vijayawada hospital to Hyderabad hospital, to stifle the voice of a minority region in their state.All the Andhra politicians who have earlier promised Telangana State did a blatant U-turn as if it was preordained.

P Chidambaram, Home Minister of India, has put the Telangana state formation on hold giving another victory to Andhras.While Andhras rejoice on depriving Telangana of their state, Telanganas stand dejected once again.Looks like there is no respite for Telanganas!They continue to lose to Andhras without any let down.They are tired of this game.It was Nizam before and it is now Andhras.They want to opt out, but they are not allowed to.Andhras want to score few more goals. They are not done yet.‘Abhi game baki hai dost’, they tell us. One of the pending goals is to take away Hyderabad from Telangana.That way they can leave Telangana completely sucked dry, emasculated, emaciated, humiliated and battered.

Today, everyone in Telangana is clear on one thing. The only reason P Chidambaram changed his stance on Telangana is because of Andhra-Rayalaseema people and politicians. Most of us, even the most reasonable, literate and rational people of Telangana, hold Andhra politicians and people responsible for what happened today and grant you the victory.All the democratic institutions of India have failed us today.

But since the game is still on, I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate Andhra people and politicians on their decisive victories.Congratulations on your score of 200-0.

I am not at all sure about this; knee jerk reactions from some high commammand and Telugus not able or willing to decide for themselves. In the long run, for decentralization and development of the whole region four or five states within A.P. and development of more regional hubs is needed I think. But this should be decided by experts for the whole of India.

They want to break all records eventually, that of Nizam rule of Telangana, British occupation of India, Sri Lankan suppression of Tamils, that of Israeli occupation of Palestine, that of White discrimination of Blacks. May be they want to keep the game on so that one day they can even break the record of Nadir Shah and Genghis Khan.You are no less than KCR when it comes to stoking tensions. You just do it in English.

As you rightly stated in one of your blog that "As Telangana is preparing from past 10 years, Andhra people are ignorant of whats happening". Yes, that is completely true. The myriad of Websites and Blogs that have sprouted in the past 5 years talks about the ideas and how many of Telanganas are effected by this. And many Andhra People does not even know about these background tasks. No one has ever imagined that the Telanagana Poets, Telangana Professors, Telangana NRIs, Telangana Professionals are slowly gearing up for Telangnana statehood.

Very Honestly some Andhra People does not even know that there is a different opinion of Telangana. No one consciously made friends based on whether some one is from Telangana or Andhra. This is a very unfortunate situation that we are embarrassed to talk to our own friends when they talk separate stand. It is coming to quite surprise that in a Democratic society, we cant even say that we support for "United Andhra" as you are afraid that some one from TRS might come and beat you up.

In this situation, there is a need to distinguish between the Ideology and Execution. As i talk to my Andhra friends, no one is against the Telangana (trust me!). But recently it has become the tussle between Telangana and Andhra politicians. Not to mention the name of politician, giving bad names, threatening, scaring people of Andhra in Hyderabad is not going to help in ANYWAY!. You need to distinguish between the people who really did bad to Telangana People and who just came to Hyderabad for work. These people are typical lower to middle class people who have come from Andhra. They do not at all understand or even aware of the so called oppressions that you talk about.

I understand that many of my Telangana friends are not ready to listen to any one, especially NOW. This probably result of persistent suffering. But, i humbly request that you need to distinguish between Good and Bad Andhra people and what they did to Telangana. Except for the Business Man and Movie Industry, many came to Hyderabad only for lively hood. I would consider it the same way as many goes to Bangalore, Chennai, UK, USA and Australia for lively hood. So, i would request you to be very careful when you or your mates say, we will Throw out/Kick out/Kill Andhra People.

Finally, Good Intentions with wrong Execution is not going to help anyone. We all are concerned about the people from either sides. I have many cousins who married Andhra girls and many cousins who married Telangana guys. No one would want to hurt our own Son/Father/Neighbor.

Sujay, Sravan, Archana et all what have you all done for the upliftment of telengana?

im not good in history or facts like you all and i dont have english skills but as somebody said ask what you have done to your land before asking what has been done to you?

All of you wrinting blogs and comments pro partition have become quite wealthy in position and knowledge, if you all did OK in life why not other telenganites.

Is somebody forcing them not to go to school study or learn IT and work

pls enlighten me, you allways talk about govt jobs, what % of govt jobs does the overall Job % in hyderabad?

why dont telenganites make good business men creating jobs for others, i am only reading in your blogs that most of the business men in hyderabad are from andhra.. business is all about attitude and nature and other business men come only when there is an opertunity. if those are already taken they go to another place.

how can you get an apple when you are not ready to get up off your chair?

one needs to get up go to a shop to buy one.

I sincerely pray no body is affected or hurt or killed in all the mayhem.

last night my neighbour's were stuck on the road enroute hospital as the lady was pregnant.. luckily they made it on time.

I too congratulate, andhra and rayalaseemas..welldone on their vicotry on our poor betrayed telangana brothers...they have demostrated one more time the sheen of their power ....they stay unsatisfied even if the score 1000 - 0.....and suck the last drop of blood from a fellow telaganite..

We all should celebrate this victory of Andhras.You and me who write and read the blogs, people in IT, NRIs, politicians - we are not going to loose anything from this U turn. Infact our real estate values will be safe now. Who will be the looser here -the common man in Telangana, farmers, people who are trying for Govt jobs-

Where as, see the Samikyandhra movement- the politicians who will be definitely impacted by separate Telangana - NRIs ,IT people -they all will be impacted . Their property, business are at stake. Where as common Andhra man or a farmer will not be impacted by separate Telangana or Samikyandhra

So who is the final looser after this Telangana statement and its U turn - common man in Telangana

After seeing all this. I think Telangana must be formed. Andhra and Rayalaseema people were never serious on the thought of loosing their capital city. But now i think its written CLEARLY on the phyche of all the people in Andhra and Rayalaseema that Hyderabad is NOT theirs thanks to KCR. From now on any development in Hyderabad will be fought fiercly by Andhra and Rayalaseema people since its NOT theirs.

Andhra and Rayalaseema people were in a shock when they heard the anouncement, they thought Andhra Pradesh was their state and Hyderabad was THEIR capital city,and development of Hyderabad was development of THEIR capital city they were unaware of the designs of KCR eagle.

Once Andhra and Rayalaseema have THEIR OWN capitals developed. I think nobody will be intrested in Hyderabad anymore once and for ever. Telangana can form without any question, you can justify any reason for this like History,small state,local jobs etc etc nobody in state will raise their voice.

After Telangana is formed it wont be a cake walk, i am sure thier regional feelings will fire up once again now the fight will be for water and rivers. I doubt there will be any security for Andhra people in Telangana given Telangana peoples HATRED of Andhra. For every issue with neighbouring state Andhra, local Andhra people in Hyderabad will be targeted, this is going to be a very bloody genocide no doubt on this.

Andhra and Rayalaseema politicians failed in communicating to their people that Hyderabad is NOT theirs.

Don't you worry. Too much has happened to deny Telanganites their right to their own state. Take heart in knowing that the movement has reached a critical mass and a single decision from the center can't stop it.

I am from the coastal andhra region, I have been a regular visitor to your blog for the past 3-4 days. I have read your analysis and read the comments of others'. Even before I write anything please excuse me for my ignorance and poor writing skills. I will be posting in multiple segments. Her is part 1 -The very first time I heard that Telangana was going to be carved out, my reaction was, NO, this can't be true, why? I have always been proud of being a telugu and I have respect for all the dialects of Andhra Pradesh. I belive this diversity is what makes it beautiful, I cannot imagine a state where there is only one kind of people and one kind of dialect. I have friends that are from different parts of Andhra Pradesh. We always enjoyed good friendship. But in all these years, I have never sensed that my telangana brothers have been oppressed and absued. We always had mutual respect. But when I first read your blog, I was aghast because of all the allegations you are leveling aginst "Andhrites". First of all, I never knew that Telangana people don't want to associate with the word "Andhra" and that it causes an allergic reaction (is it really true?). All these years, whenever I used the word Andhra, I meant all the regions of Andhra Pradesh, not just coastal region. In other words, for me Andhra = Telugu. Sometimes I wondered why Andhra was called Andhra Pradesh (none of the other southeran states have "pradesh" in their name). I assume majority of rest of andhra pepole use it with that meaning. I believe this is the reason people are agitating for "samaikya andhra" = "samaikya telugu". So, you can see the communication gap here. No wonder you misinterpreted their agitation.

(part 2)Another moment of enlightenment came when you started calling "andhrites" as oppressors and discriminators. Frist of all an average educated andhrite is not simply aware of your issues. It is not that they don't care, they are JUST NOT AWARE. Then how do you expect them to react when all of a sudden they hear telangana people are oppressed and want to get separated? I am very sure, if you presented them the issues ( as you have with your blog) majority of them will be more than willing to support reasonable resolutions to these problems (of course you have to stop blaming them for all the ills of Telangana). We all want be united not by oppressing (as you perceive it), but as willing partners with mutual respect. I want to reiterate that I haven never observed "andhrites" disparaging telangana or its people. I have no idea where you bring this "consipracy" theory from. I am not saying that telangana doesn't need development, but there was no conspiracy to bring about the down fall of Telangana. Let us (people of all regions) work together (forget he politicians) and chart out a plan for the underdeveloped parts of the state, and I am sure all "andhrites (includes all seema people)" will support such a resolution. Getting separated is not the solution my friend. Today, we, as telugu community are strong and becoming powerful because of all of our hardwork, and just when we are about to turn the corner for better, these politicians invent another weapon to create rift and division. But it is their nature to do it, let us not fall prey again. Shri Potti Sriramulu gave us that identity as telugus and shri NTR reinforced it. We all need to be greateful for their efforts.

(part 3)I am not sure how many non-telengana friends you have, but I suggest you make some and talk to them. One practical step will eliminate a lot of misunderstanding. I am just trying to present to you the other side.The moment we talked of dividing ourselfs up (without thining through properly), we all lost collectively, so today's decision from the centre is NOT a win for anybody. Look at all that bad blood now, how long will it take for these wounds to heal?I am not saying that we shouldn't split up, but that needs to come as a natural solution after good heartful discussions. Then we will be able to split up on friendly terms. But as long as you keep calling andhrites oppressors and abusers, there is no such thing as splitting up on good terms.

I had immense repect for you for articulating your view point in a forceful but decent manner ..not any more U and I warent born in 1969 Telangana agitation ask an Andhra "Settler" from that time and they will tell you how they were persecuted during the agitation ..Unfortunately I dont have the numerical numbers you soo proudly quote abt telengna injustice ..lives were lost during that time and that lynch mob mentality has returned .I was aghast watcing the so called Kakatiya Univ students threatening to vacate the so called "settlers" houses ..If there is loss of limb or life caz of instgating comments like yours generations together will suffer wat score are u keeping my friend ..lives lost or properties burned ??

U seem to be a big fan of history for some reason ur history book has blank pages before 1956 ..This is the exact type of mentality(Blame the evil on thy neighbour) that brought Hitler into this world

Adding to my post above ..I am sure the score at the end of Day would be 200-0 !!! 200 lives lost and I can feel who those 200 poor souls would be

U seem to belong to the corporate world?? Would u hire a guy who burns down busses and threatens violance in ur firm ??? Instead of condoning the violance you seem to find every cause you can to justify it.These are the most unfortunate times that Andhra Pradesh (oops sorry i might get beaten up for using the forbidden word) has seen

hi sujay anna this is sameer ....we were exploited ,we are being being exploited but why are our politicians like only to see down the nose to soniaji and the other heads...i dont think there is any struggle to have a state combined but why are andhra people doing it?,i am not getting any clue of it.

when will our politicians and people come to one stand and say jai telangana!!!!!!!!!!!!jai jai telangana..

Sameer explain how u were exploited ..I am sure you are one of those guy who belong to the class I refer to as NEO TELANGANITE .I can quote numerous instances where my peers parents who belong to telengana and work in the Govt sector and have a LUXRIOUS life style and yet blame andhraites for u r problems

"Then it was the case of government jobs. 25,000 illegal jobs based on bogus Mulki certificates were given to Andhras by 1975 and about 60,000 illegal jobs by 1985. The score reached 150-0." What the hell! Where did you get these figures from. Dont just fool people.

I had immense repect for you for articulating your view point in a forceful but decent manner ..not any more

Sorry I disappointed you there but I had made it clear that I don’t write to impress people.

U and I warent born in 1969 Telangana agitation ask an Andhra "Settler" from that time and they will tell you how they were persecuted during the agitation

It’s unfortunate that it happened. We are not proud of that facet of 1969 agitation. At the same time, we are not going to tell ourselves that roll back Telangana Movement only because some miscreants misuse the movement. Protecting Andhra people is a responsibility of everyone, including the administration and the people. At the same time, it is duty of every Telangana to rise up against prolonged and protracted discrimination of their people.

..Unfortunately I dont have the numerical numbers you soo proudly quote abt telengna injustice ..lives were lost during that time and that lynch mob mentality has returned .

350 agitators of 1969 lost their lives too. It’s unfortunate that lives were lost.

I hope that lives are not lost this time around. I do hope that sanity prevails. But then sanity is not found anywhere. Did you see the riots in Andhra-Rayalaseema regions during Samaikya Andhra protests?

We may have to roll back Telangana Movement if lives are lost. I just hope it doesn’t happen this time around. But you have to understand that they are two different problems. One is that of law and order and the other is that of socio-economic-political movement where aspirations of certain region needs to be addressed.

I was aghast watcing the so called Kakatiya Univ students threatening to vacate the so called "settlers" houses ..

I am not happy about it either. I can understand how people feel when they are targeted like that by a mob. It’s not a happy situation. I don’t want to be in that situation. I believe that those threats are made only to get attention of Andhra and observers so that their demands are met. I could be wrong – and if I am wrong, then we are going to see ugly incidents.

If there is loss of limb or life caz of instgating comments like yours generations together will suffer wat score are u keeping my friend ..lives lost or properties burned ??

What kind of instigating remarks did I make that you think will result in lives lost or properties burned. Is educating your own people the actual events that unfolded in the last sixty years a crime? Is educating your people with the facts and data on how we were discriminated in the last sixty years a crime? Have you ever followed any movement closely? Take a look at the Civil Rights Movement. There are always people who bring the facts and arguments to the table to make a case.

If Andhras are not ready to admit that they have discriminated their Telangana people, not on a individual basis, but at a group level, that’s not my problem. I am yet to see one sane voice from Andhras who says, ‘Yes, we have been guilty of these crimes against Telangana people’. Till then I have to assume that you are still working with selfish and parochial interests.

U seem to be a big fan of history for some reason ur history book has blank pages before 1956 ..

When I have time, I am going to write about people of Telangana before 1956. It’s a rich history, but would you be interested? I am not sure because you are NOT interested in hearing our story of the last fifty years either.

This is the exact type of mentality(Blame the evil on thy neighbour) that brought Hitler into this world

Fighting against the oppressor is different from making a case to oppress a section. I don’t believe Andhras were oppressed by Telanganas, as yet, and I do hope that such a thing never happens.

Adding to my post above ..I am sure the score at the end of Day would be 200-0 !!! 200 lives lost and I can feel who those 200 poor souls would be

Who would they be? Telangana agitators like in 1969?

U seem to belong to the corporate world?? Would u hire a guy who burns down busses and threatens violance in ur firm ???

No, I wouldn’t. But that has nothing to do with Telangana Movement. Rioting is just one expression and a sordid one which I am not proud of. But so did Samaikya Andhra protestors. They burnt down buses and did all kinds of violent stuff in the recent past. Did you turn off your TV then?

Instead of condoning the violance you seem to find every cause you can to justify it.

I have friends that are from different parts of Andhra Pradesh. We always enjoyed good friendship. But in all these years, I have never sensed that my telangana brothers have been oppressed and absued. We always had mutual respect.

Discrimination may not always happen at an individual level. It usually happens at a group level. Not all the people would participate in discriminating the people of the other group on a continuous basis. When majority of Andhra unite, out of selfish interest, to vote against minority of Telangana and stop their irrigation projects, it is marginalization of Telangana people.

Oppression is not always overt. It could come about as a result of series of steps acting against people of certain type.

Mutual respect can happen at individual level while it may be absent at group level.

But when I first read your blog, I was aghast because of all the allegations you are leveling aginst "Andhrites".

You think they are allegation. I think they are the truth. A truth sounds like an allegation when you hear it for the first time.

First of all, I never knew that Telangana people don't want to associate with the word "Andhra" and that it causes an allergic reaction (is it really true?).

I wouldn’t go that far that it causes “allergic reaction”. No. That’s not the case. It is just that we don’t identify with that word because we have seen them to be different from us when we were growing up – and many a times that’s because they pointed out mistakes we made each time we spoke our Telangana Telugu. Telangana Telugu is still made a mockery of, at all levels. KCR sounds like a buffoon mainly because he speaks Telangana Telugu.

In other words, for me Andhra = Telugu.

It’s not the same for us. For us, Telangana+Andhra+Rayalaseema=Telugu.

I believe this is the reason people are agitating for "samaikya andhra" = "samaikya telugu". So, you can see the communication gap here. No wonder you misinterpreted their agitation.

I am not that naïve. There is no communication gap. Jai Andhra slogan was carried out in 1973 to make it clear to all of us in Telangana that Andhra was different from Telangana.

No Samaikya Andhra protest happened in Telangana. None of the leaders of Samaikya Andhra came to Telangana. It was clear that there was no role for Telangana in their Samaikya Andhra.

Yes !! I dont beleive you were opressed ..An "Andraite opressor" is a creature born out of your imagination, ur frustration and utter incompetence to question your elected leaders bore life into that creature.

The same imcpotence makes me helpless but i dont give a face to my frustration

Rioting in Andhra !! I ve studied in the same universities and the students behaved in the most dispicable manner to bring shame to thier alumni

NO I dint switch of my TV or my mind and have the sanity to discern fact from fiction (propoganda from both sides)

Another moment of enlightenment came when you started calling "andhrites" as oppressors and discriminators. Frist of all an average educated andhrite is not simply aware of your issues. It is not that they don't care, they are JUST NOT AWARE. Then how do you expect them to react when all of a sudden they hear telangana people are oppressed and want to get separated?

I understand that this is the problem. While we have been educating our masses about the oppression, discrimination and marginalization of Telangana for the last twenty years, Andhras were just carrying out their lives as if nothing was happening in Telangana. There are few other reasons for that.

Telangana Movement did not come to the foreground and hence there was no need to think about it.

Moreover, I don’t think Andhras know a lot about Telangana people, their culture or their history. Most of them are completely oblivious to that.

While Telangana people continue to interact with Andhra people because many of them come to Telangana, Andhra people in Andhra do not get that chance since the migration from Telangana to Andhra is minimal. Moreover, many Telangana people change their access right away and take on Andhra language because they feel ashamed of their dialect. Most of them do not even talk about Telangana movement or sentiment because it is not seen as cool thing to do.

While Telangana people are getting to know about Andhras also through movies, no movie depicts Telangana people in the right light in Telugu movies. Telangana people are reduced to villains and buffoons.

Also, we lost a bit of Telangana culture for a while, when Naxal movement came about. Naxals took many of Telangana cultural aspects into their fold, like Gaddar, and so on. When they were suppressed, Telangana cultural aspects were also snubbed, like when some songs were banned.

Telugu text books write about Andhra Pradesh history which is lopsided. Not much is written about Telangana history while Andhra history gets a lot of mention. Therefore, lot of people in Andhra think this way. Andhra culture and history = Andhra Pradesh culture and history. That is not the case.

Another aspect is that Andhras did not pay attention to rest of Telangana. They were solely interest in one city – Hyderabad. They didn’t care much about rest of Telangana and did not try to learn about it or know about it. And that’s also the reason why Andhras think Hyderabad is different from Telangana because their attachment was only with Hyderabad and nothing else with Telangana.

This apathy also led to a oppression of Andhra politicians who conveniently went on flouting all agreements while Andhra people were completely unaware of such things.

Yes !! I dont beleive you were opressed ..An "Andraite opressor" is a creature born out of your imagination, ur frustration and utter incompetence to question your elected leaders bore life into that creature.Yes telangana people asked. indeed pressured their elected leaders, The leaders then requested, appealed the govt. by all means. The govt. agrees to change and accept the request and demands.Suddenly the govt. then denies saying that actually the people do not want the change.

Was this all my imagination? Oh sorry I just woke up and i should agree with you. you have the majority and as usual ly majority wins.

The same way you are associating Andraites (collectively not on indivual basis) I accuse the Telanginites (collectively not on an Individial basis) of threatening my life and life of other minions like me

The same way you are associating Andraites (collectively not on indivual basis) I accuse the Telanginites (collectively not on an Individial basis) of threatening my life and life of other minions like me

I am very sure, if you presented them the issues ( as you have with your blog) majority of them will be more than willing to support reasonable resolutions to these problems (of course you have to stop blaming them for all the ills of Telangana).

There are many ills of Telangana which have nothing to do with Andhra people. But those ills cannot be addressed as long as the oppression from Andhras continue. You have to understand and appreciate this. There were many problems with India even under British. But we had to get rid of British before we could actually go about solving each of them. We are not able to hold our own leaders accountable in this marriage of inconvenience. When we want to separate to decide our fate, you don’t let us go. What do we do?

Another thing. I have not seen many Andhra people telling me that they actually acknowledge discrimination and marginalization happened with Telangana people. If they are so obstinately holding onto that thought there is no way we can make a breakthrough. It’s like Pakistan and India talking. India says there are terrorists in Pakistan and Pakistan says there is none. No breakthrough happens that way.

We all want be united not by oppressing (as you perceive it), but as willing partners with mutual respect.

Yes, that’s what we wanted. But it never happened. Within the first 10 years all promises of Gentlemen’s Agreement were broken. Sorry, we tried a lot in the last sixty years. We are exhausted. We are quite sure that this marriage won’t work. The last twenty days only reaffirmed our belief that it won’t work in a united Andhra. The politicians were all divided starkly along regional lines, showing that even politics is below the regionalism in Andhra Pradesh. When we know that our leaders can actually do something like that – align clearly along regional lines, why is it becoming difficult to believe for Andhra people to understand that how they could have always voted off all development efforts in Telangana?

I want to reiterate that I haven never observed "andhrites" disparaging telangana or its people.

As I said, that doesn’t happen overtly. It is subtle. I have discussed this a lot in my other posts on how discrimination happens.

I have no idea where you bring this "consipracy" theory from.

I am not sure if I ever used the word conspiracy. But if you point that out I would like to check myself.

Having said, I do believe that Andhra politicians though disunited otherwise get united once it is about Telangana vs Andhra and this has happened consistently in the last sixty years. And since they are in majority, Telangana lost out consistently in the last sixty years.

Let us (people of all regions) work together (forget he politicians) and chart out a plan for the underdeveloped parts of the state, and I am sure all "andhrites (includes all seema people)" will support such a resolution.

Are you sure?

Look at other posts. And read the comments from our beloved Andhra brothers. And then assure me this. They are not even ready to concede discrimination happened. It’s like Indo-Pak talks ;-) Even the premise is not accepted.

Getting separated is not the solution my friend.

Sometimes it is. As mature people, we just have to accept it and live with it.

these politicians invent another weapon to create rift and division.

I don’t think Telangana Movement is invention of politicians. It is the outcome of collective voice of aspiration of Telangana people. As long as you deny this, there is no solution in sight.

I am not sure how many non-telengana friends you have, but I suggest you make some and talk to them.

I have many non-Telangana friends. I grew up with some of them.

Look at all that bad blood now, how long will it take for these wounds to heal?

There wouldn’t have been bad blood if Telangana got its new state after 9th December decision of P Chidambaram. The only reason it is held back now is because of what happened in the last 10 days when politicians of Andhra colluded to ensure we didn’t get our state. Instead of shouting for Samaikya Andhra, I want people of Andhra to support us and tell their politicians to let go of Telangana. But then you are attached to Hyderabad. What do we do?

I am not saying that we shouldn't split up, but that needs to come as a natural solution after good heartful discussions.

Do you even know how many “heartful” discussion we have had so far.

Then we will be able to split up on friendly terms. But as long as you keep calling andhrites oppressors and abusers,

Why is it such a hard thing to admit that you may have knowingly or unknowingly discriminated, marginalized and dominated a people of certain region?

The same way you are associating Andraites (collectively not on indivual basis) I accuse the Telanginites (collectively not on an Individial basis) of threatening my life and life of other minions like me

Telangana people are not doing the right thing when they threaten your life like that. I strongly oppose those overtures, threats and veiled attacks on all Andhra people.

I take upon myself to continuously fight against such threats from Telangana along with my struggle for a separate Telangana.

If you get a chance please do send me the data and facts that will help my case to fight against such threats.

"Then it was the case of government jobs. 25,000 illegal jobs based on bogus Mulki certificates were given to Andhras by 1975 and about 60,000 illegal jobs by 1985. The score reached 150-0." What the hell! Where did you get these figures from. Dont just fool people.

If KCR is shedding crocodile tears on the suicide of a Guy from Hyd. He sits in the Central AC palace in Jubilee Hills, drives Audi with thousands of crores of wealth.

Cant he afford to give 1 crore to the deceased family instead of demanding from government?

And Sujai, do you know how much my family loses if they cant sell vegetables for a day ? because of the so called agitations propelled by people like you and funded by people like KCR,KTR and Harish Rao ?

And by the way what will you achieve ultimate ? if you get power after seperate state you will again start harassing us . Brahmin,Velema,Reddy , Munnur Kapu you call us 'Bay', 'Munda'..?

Instead of fighting for a seperate state to rule us with your greed and filthy minds, please sirs, leave us like this. Days are little bright now ..I did my engineering and got a job now.

You are intellectuals, why dont you think about we sc's and poor backward people.

You never fulfilled your promises when you ruled us.

Only thing that you achieve by getting a seperate state is that you get all the money(you are merciless and ruthless) from us instead of sharing with Andhra.

I think atleast some of you can understand my pain.

There are 70 percent of people like me in Telangana.

I will say Jai Telangana or Jai KCR when they really work and show the results after uplifting us. I dont want state,I want my honour and respect for my people, and i want to have equal status with Velamas,Reddys and other upper castes.

On a serious note, this will die down like this. Majority of people of Nizamabad,Warangal, Nalgonda, Adilabad, Karimnagar are in favour of seperate state. But Hyderabad, Khammam and Ranga Reddy are not so willing to join telangana. MLA of Bhadrachalam wanted his city to be merged into Andhra!!!!!.

PEACE please! Mahatma got us independece with non-violence. Why don't we even try? Is violence the only way to win? And who is losing? Why don't the protesters understand they are burning their own money when they are torching a bus?

What is your take on the violence which happened throughout the day. It's seriously sad that that so called university students(or say goondas) can create a havoc in the city and get away easily.

I believe this is not the way to take the agitation forward, destroying public and private property,beating up people who do not share T- sentiment. I have seen few university students beat up senior citizen cos he was "lecturing" them not to destroy any property. Thats how insensitive those students were.

Even if Telangana is formed or not in near future I just hope all this non-sense (violence)which is going around in the city should be stopped.

I think if this Govt has "balls", they should act hard on any violence which takes place outside the university. All this while I believed students should be handled with care,cos they are future of our country but seeing these cowards act this way, I have no sympathy for them. I would want the government to block all the news channels and get the RAF and beat the students/political activists black n blue to teach them a lesson.I know such action can make things bad but they ve to bear the brunt.

P.S: I really love the way you write and reply to the comments. I'm sure there are lot of hot blooded Telangana supporters who read your blog. I would love it if you can post something about the RIGHT way of protesting. Also, what do you think how would Gandhiji react to something like this.

Greedy politicians need an issue to increase their wealth at cost of others. I really feel sad looking at posts on this blog. Just like Britishers, policiticans now are trying to divide and rule. Look .. to what stage they have now brought the state to now. People from one side fear to talk to the other side now. They have succeeded in creating these differences between the people who talk the same language and were co-existing peacfully. Now when the thought of separation enters the mind, the thought of who is powerful also enters the mind and then about who is winning and creates UNNECESSARY violence.

Does that mean you read most (but not completely) in each of the logs or most of the logs completely. I have this speculation, because of your query/comment.

"Sujai is not comparingtelangana with other regions in India which were very similar to it in 1948."

Yeah, yeah, but can you list those regions please.

"can someone do it ?"Then I will do it for you.

"Can the compare the current telangana districts with the erstwhile Hyderabad state's districts in Karnataka/Maharashtra ?"

I could not understand the above query, assuming your query is the following:"Can someone compare the current telangana districts with the erstwhile Hyderabad state's districts in Karnataka/Maharashtra ?"

This question is making you a BOR, because such comparison has no meaning, for such erstwhile past-time Hyd state's parts are under Karnataka/Maharashtra governments; while the Telangana is under Andhra Pradesh government.

Now you are a real Britisher, for you want to start a quarrel between Telangana cause and the other state governments.

U have a thing for trickery of words.Bringing in Palastine,Civil rights movement etc ..R u kidding me U are an Indian living under the protection of Indian constitution WITH EQUAL RIGHTS not unlike the above stated movements.

The same constitution protected you from the Devils of Supression (Andraites) , blood sucking leaches (Andhraites) and assured that you have a comfortable life style where ever you migrated to within the borders of India.

Instead today the same andhraite should feel persecuted for being abused , attacked for expressing their views

Enogh my friend you have painted a picture where you canvas has nothing but doom and gloom for the telengana brotheren

As Rajesh said u r attacking a wrong problem (the andhraite opresssion) instead of attacking the fudal system that is prevelant ..Ohh may be you will blame the andraite suppresor for that problem too !!!!

I AM REALLY VERY VERY HAPPY THAT TELANGANA PEOPLE ARE DOING THEIR BEST TO DESTRUCT ANDHRA PEOPLE AND THEIR PROPERTIES.

LOOK AT THE STUDENTS IN OU , THEY LOOK SO INTELLIGENT, SOFT, FRIENDLY NATURED. MAN THEY ARE THE FUTURE OF INDIA.

I AM SURE TELANGANA WILL PROSPER LIKE SINGAPORE IF THEY ARE GIVE SEPERATE STATE.

TELANGANA STATE HAS GREAT FUTURE WITH STUDENT FORCE WHO CAN DESTROY ANY THING AND BEAT ANY BODY IN THE NAME OF JAI TELANGANA MOVEMENT.

THEY HAVE GREAT LEADERS LIKE KOMATI REDDY VENKAT REDDY WHO ENJOYS THE ACT OF STUDENTS BEATING FELLOW LEGISLATIVE MEMBER.

THEY HAVE STRENGTH AND WISDOM TO DESTROY PROPERTIES WORTH CRORES IN FEW SECONDS JUST BECAUSE OF GREAT CAUSE CALLED TELANGANA SELF RESPECT.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST WE SHOULD NOT FORGET THE GREAT LEADER KCR WHO HAS AWAKENED THE PEOPLE OF TELANGANA WHO WERE SLEEPING FOR LAST 40 YRS. HE EVEN MOTIVATED GREAT INTELLECTS LIKE SUJAI (BLOG OWNER). HE MADE HIM REALISE SUDDENLY HOW TELANGANA PEOPLE HAVE BEEN OPRESSED FOR DECADES.

I REALLY WANT TO SEE TELANGANA SEPERATED AND RULED BY ALL THESE PEOPLE. I BET ALREADY SEPERATED STATES LIKE JARKHAND, UTTARANCHAL & CHATTISGARH WILL HANG THEIR HEADS WITH SHAME FOR NOT ABLE TO COMPETE WITH NEO TELANGANA.

I don't get it. In the last elections TRS got the least amount of votes. The majority doesn't want Telangana at all....If Telangana is so needed, why can't they have a better showing in elections? Win their own constituencies and change laws in the state govt? KC Rao has threatened nothing but violence against his own telugu people if his demands aren't met...can he take the bigger challenge of trying to win votes in the next election? Doesn't sound like it...he would prefer to divide telugu's now among accent lines. Realise please that we are all Indians first and hindus second...State identity should come after that...if not various global abrahamic faiths will sound the death knell for our tolerant religion.

It is a tragic situation that I have to assume a psyeodonym to post instead of my real name for fear of being persecuted in Hyderabad for holding a diverging view.

Thanks to all the Andhra Haters if popular film personalities can be attacked ..Iam sure I am the next I almost bought into the statement that Danam Nagender gave about safe gaurding Andraites lives ..

Congratulations on suppressing free speech, attacking people who were here in Hyd for shooting films, destabilising city and inconveniencing people... all in the name of who becomes CM when there is a new T State... What a democracy in T region.

I am not from AP but from outside working in Hyderabad. we have liked this place because of the welcome nature of the people and as its part of india.. i felt its ours but looking at all these i now feel all of them had a mask.

i have to pass tarnaka to go to my office in uppal and then the rogues attacked my car.

i then started browing and stumbled on your blog. i didnt know there was so much hatred even in this age of development of the country.

anyways, as long as there is bureaucracy and demcracy there will be voices but not to the extent of causing problems to the innocent people.

i didnt want to use the word common man as i now dont know who a common man is in india... is he the one causing the issues or the one on the receiving end.

there is always a minority of people in the whole world including usa and europe who will never be happy.. they dont burn busses and ask for a seperate state.

and btw USA has 50 states not because of population or demography but because of how they were merged or joined in to the country at different stages.

and some states are as big as a country they dont say lets break on the division of race or minority. DO u think the minorities are happy there? NO MY FRIEND.. but people have learnt that living an educated life is the only way t succeed in life. just like you and other educated friends of yours who have done well they also learnt that by doing whats right and correct is the only way of self development.

USA wouldnt have had a black president even now, if all they thught were we are minorites ...

anyways all the best, now i am thinking twice if i have to settle down in hyderabad or not. which was my previous plan.

and god bless you achieve your dreams and btw is it development of the place or just separation because both are 2 diff things.

Architects of the agitation are now worried about their design , may be they ignored the possibility that, same guidelines could be followed by others to create a similar design, if they could successfull in implementing them. Don't ya'll really think whose resposible now. Is it not SAMKHYA ANDHRA??? and people here still blame us for their cause, like they been doing since years..

i felt its ours but looking at all these i now feel all of them had a mask.

I can understand how you feel. But I am not sure if they had a mask or not. It is just that there are times when certain people who we know very well can act quite violently when in a mob. The whole idea is to contain it before it becomes a mob rule. Kannada people who are usually quite hospitable turn violent during some rallies in Bangalore.

Right now, our state is going through turmoil. And the way it is taking shape, it is not good. Ordinary people, bystanders, are getting affected. There is no excuse for such violent methods. I only wish that our people showed some restraint – either it is Telangana agitation or Samaikya Andhra agitation.

i didnt know there was so much hatred even in this age of development of the country.

I don’t think you have really read the blog. If you had understood it, you would have wrote, “I didn’t know there was so much discrimination, marginalization and domination in the country.”

there is always a minority of people in the whole world including usa and europe who will never be happy.. they dont burn busses and ask for a seperate state.

They don’t burn buses. Many democracies handle their issues quite maturely, not like in India. Both the government and the people are immature in India. Telangana Movement is fifty three years old. Indian democracy acted immaturely by turning a blind eye. They don’t solve the issues unless people go out onto streets and burn buses. People of India think that’s the only way to get attention – see how Samaikya Andhra scored their victories.

anyways all the best, now i am thinking twice if i have to settle down in hyderabad or not. which was my previous plan.

It’s sad that you think that way. You should migrate to Bangalore where you may end up in a riot caused by Kannadigas or you can migrate to Mumbai where you may be targeted by Shiv Sena.

Nice blog. Nice post.I'd like to see some write up on the term 'Andhra'.What does the term 'Andhra' mean? The SRC in 1956 was there in the first place because of the agitation of Potti Sree Ramulu and the states were subsequently divided on linguistic basis. Why wasn't our state named after 'Telugu' like Gujarat, Punjab, Kerala, Karnataka, Tamilnadu etc. What does Andhra mean?2. Brgula Rama Krishna Rao became the governer of Kerala after Telangana was merged with Andhra state. Why? Something is fishy in this as he was supposed to be there to oversee that people of Telangana don't lose out to Andhra games... He was cleverly sidelined. cheers,Telangana

You need to distinguish between the people who really did bad to Telangana People and who just came to Hyderabad for work. These people are typical lower to middle class people who have come from Andhra. They do not at all understand or even aware of the so called oppressions that you talk about.

Now, who are good Andhras and bad Andhras? Do you think these rioting Telangana protestors want to listen to anyone? Not really. We should not even be thinking in those lines. I don’t think they should be targeting any Andhras - either it is good or bad. For that matter, they should not be targeting anyone.

Our fight may not be against Andhras. But unfortunately it is becoming one because they are not letting Telangana go. Anywhere you go anywhere in Telangana and ask people why we are not about to get Telangana, they will say, it’s because of Andhras. And there is truth to it, from what happened in the last twenty days in the state. And they don’t differentiate good ones from bad ones.

It’s unfortunate that Telangana supporters are targeting Andhra people in Telangana state. Such animosity, such hatred, such violence is not good for Telanganas or Andhras. But right now, there is no leader who is trying to calm them. That’s because they don’t want them to be calm. Right now, it is a war of one-upmanship. Telangana and Andhra-Rayalaseema are using their people to riot, burn buses and cause violence and get attention from New Delhi. The more you protest and riot the more you get attention – that’s how the last twenty days have set as a trend. It’s sad.

I believe that you use the word 'UNITED' very loosely. You do not know its true meaning.

Dear Mr. Pavan, Expand the horizons of your thinking... include the 4 crore Telanganites living in pathetic living conditions... take up a week of social work with your elite colleagues in the AC offices of Hyderabad and DARE TO VENTURE into Adilabad and Nizamabad,... live in nalgonda and DARE TO DRINK THE WATERS.... Feel the air in those districts...

You will have a life-changing experience. Your thinking will change and you will welcoming the "CHANGE" that is bound to happen through a peoples revolution.

Once you get that revelation (under a Telangana tree :)) you will know the true meaning of the word UNITED.

In the meanwhile, I will try to reform the education system and STOP garden-variety pseudo-elitisis like you graduate without any real education.

Think outside the limits of greater-Hyderabad.

Lives of 3.5 crore people in the 10 districts of Telangana will have a real chance at a good life, if people like you wake up to reality.

I really thank our Samakhya Andhra brothers for laying the guidelines for an agitation in telangana ! with out their guidance it wouldnt have been possible for us to get our politicians under one roof ! I really appreciate it !! and after contemplating the situation I really wonder how some people could imagine of being United ! Is it still possible ?? Nah.. Dear, Samakhya Andhra banner, atleast think outside your birdbrains now !!

Also beyond the AC room of my office. my collegues and I, with the support of my managers and AVP's frequently go to remote places of warangal, rangareddy, medak and hyderabad .(only these because of the proximity oof distance) and at any point of the year there will be a week in a month where we setup literary camps providing the kids some ABC's doing our best to eradicate illitracy, and donate donate as much as we can in terms of food, clothes, books etc.

Till you work on changing the education system, i will not use the word education as i already said its an overrated word.

i dont want to provide you with the links of pics that are posted on the our company web site as that would be a show off and also not safe. but pls note i am Proving my point here.

comming to my question as to what you did for the upliftment, Sujai was the only one who answered me...

Yes i use the word United as none of you gave a concrete answer as to why we need to separate off from our coastal and seema relations.

what can be done separated can also be done united.

you will not understand what a 2 rupee increase in rice per kg would mean to a poor man.

and mark my word, the rates of the commodities will increase at least 5-10% after the separation which will not affect you and me but will affect the same people for whom you claim to be fighting for.

As somebody in the previous post said this seperation will affect the Rich coastal and seema ppl who invested and the poor of the telengana.

if the mla's and mp's are now ready to unite under KCR's JAC what were they doing in the assembly. when they are making an impact now they could have made an impact the last 50 years fighting for what is needed for the development.

@ P Reddy"if the mla's and mp's are now ready to unite under KCR's JAC what were they doing in the assembly. when they are making an impact now they could have made an impact the last 50 years fighting for what is needed for the development."

Good one, i too always heard people say before the majority of andhra and seema mla's , the telangana mla's were minority.. imagine that in 1984 if these 100+ mla's joined to gether and fought for the gentleman agreement and the other GO's things would have been different..

I feel KCR seems a biggest hurdle for Telangana. His remarks seem childish to me. Telangana does not have a visionary (Neither does Andhra, but the situation is alreay what they want -- so no big deal). Violence can lead no where. Naxals threatening MLAs to resign for telangana is sure not going to impress Chidambaram. This issue seems really very complex. Both pro- and anti- telangana people have their points.

There's also a possibility that this might just be a way of re-aligning political equations in the state.

Indian politicians are the root cause of all of this limbo. If they were fair and inclusive and striven for the development of all the regions, this situation would not have risen.

I have been doing a lot of reading on Telangana of late but I now realize this issue is not worth my time. Any which way this is gonna lead, common man will always have to fight much harder to live than the priveleged lot. I am ashamed of being an Indian looking at this shameless, unabashed leaders.

I feel KCR seems a biggest hurdle for Telangana. His remarks seem childish to me. Telangana does not have a visionary (Neither does Andhra, but the situation is alreay what they want -- so no big deal). Violence can lead no where. Naxals threatening MLAs to resign for telangana is sure not going to impress Chidambaram. This issue seems really very complex. Both pro- and anti- telangana people have their points.

There's also a possibility that this might just be a way of re-aligning political equations in the state.

Indian politicians are the root cause of all of this limbo. If they were fair and inclusive and striven for the development of all the regions, this situation would not have risen.

I have been doing a lot of reading on Telangana of late but I now realize this issue is not worth my time. Any which way this is gonna lead, common man will always have to fight much harder to live than the priveleged lot. I am ashamed of being an Indian looking at this shameless, unabashed leaders.I agree with you Immaculate bigot. I the union govt do not see the truth and make a declaration for separate state, whole of our telangana proletariat would loose belief in democratic setup completely. This would only benefit the almost dead maoist movement in telangana.I hope Manmohan or Sonia quicly recognize this and make a firm decision for separation.I think if they were not guarded while making first announcement this would not have been raised at all.

To pavan reddy,but none of those ideas were to break or separate or bifurcate or distroy..Here you again do the same mistake by misinterpreting what Sujai intended to say.First look at the context to which he answered. And look at the new context in which you are trying to interpret his words. He only intended to cite Volitaire that you cannot expect some one to do the things same way you are expecting. Volitaire inspired people with his works. He supported and inspired peoples movement through literary works and he never set his foot out with the serfdom to physically fight the aristocrats and their army.Still french today say he fought against aristocracy.Where as you think doing some thing good for poor means going out to villages, teaching children ABC's and empathizing with their poverty.So if Sujai is not doing that does it mean that he is coldhearted politician who is only trying to incite anger among peaceful people.Well you said Voltaire did not break, separate or bifurcate or destroy. But if Voltaire shared the same time period in telangana today surely he would have written something similarly what sujai has been writing.He did not do something to break or bifurcate only because it was not at all the need of his time. Where as today in telangana the situation is only because of the week union that has allowed a stronger and imperialistic individuals of one region to exploit the people and resources of other region bifurcation is the only solution. Do not just commit to words in their lieral sense. Look beyond that.

To anonymous who saidThe same way you are associating Andraites (collectively not on indivual basis) I accuse the Telanginites (collectively not on an Individial basis) of threatening my life and life of other minions like me

I think you did not see the picture clearly.Telangana people were fighting for a separate state, to disassociate their region from another so as to gain political autonomy and strength which they did not get after merger. If we said andhrites suppressed the telangana people it does not mean each and every andhra individual had carved out a strategy to discriminate each and every telangana person. It was you who first imagined the term collectively. Now you would like to do the same thing when you try to bring to our attention several incidents that have been happening in hyderaad lately. When india was at war against pakistan did you fight in the army?NO i didn't but why should we say India fought pakistan and not Indian military fought Pakistan military?Is that what you mean? or do you just want to say that you were offended by word andhrite suppression because you understood it collectively?

To Pavanyou will not understand what a 2 rupee increase in rice per kg would mean to a poor man.

Well do you understand what it means when 7 lakh hectares of telangana land lost irrigation facilities just because of completely preferential disrtribution of allocated funds and how that affected millions of agricultural labor who had to abandon their villages to work as construction workers under some capitalistic businessman in hyderabad for nothing more than 40 Rs per day.May be we never needed that 2Rs hike if all the telangana land was not discriminated while developing irrigation projects in the last 50 years as promised.May be the poor would not have despaired when there was a 2 Rupee hike if they had got their actual share of employment?

Also beyond the AC room of my office. my collegues and I, with the support of my managers and AVP's frequently go to remote places of warangal, rangareddy, medak and hyderabad .

God forbid! I weep for the kids!! That they have to become literate from another illiterate who doesn't know how to spell literacy, cannot punctuate, spell or capitalize. Each sentence is a land-mine of mistakes! And writes like pissing against the wind!!

As i replied to you earlier i nether fear nor dare.

Well, fools venture where angels fear to tread. Sage Bhartruhari says, "Moorkhuniki mouname alankaramu". Sub-title: If you are dim-witted, silence is an ornament!

and mark my word, the rates of the commodities will increase at least 5-10% after the separation

Take the 5 - 10% hike rightaway and give us our state! Dammit! We didn't know thats all you wanted. You should have asked for it first instead of this huge lanja kathalu by your even more honorable leader Lagadapati (peace be upon him), et al!

IdlerGod forbid! I weep for the kids!! That they have to become literate from another illiterate who doesn't know how to spell literacy, cannot punctuate, spell or capitalize. Each sentence is a land-mine of mistakes! And writes like pissing against the wind!!

I am sorry but you shouldn't have said these against a really good intended venture by Pavan and his colleagues. This however do not help in a larger way for telangana and its people's development, I assume it was their sincere effort.

Dear Friends for better and better service small states are always better. just for controlling 200 students of class for better teaching methodology we divide 4 sections sometimes more . When it comes real life Telangana must seperate from andhra pradesh. Yes telangana was cheated and cheating by andhra politicians. telangana settlers and security of settlers these words created by andhra seema politicians not by telangana leaders or people. we are asking our own telangana not anything. Hyderabad it was devoloped since few years becasue of globalisation not by andhra. andhra people came they made there own establishment for their own benefits and given jobs to their people only. Today no one has right say that hyderabad is not part of telangana.

To Archana,How pathetic is your comparison on living conditions in one part of the state. How extensively have you traveled the nation ? Have you ever heard of the places called kalahandi, koraput districts in Orissa. The living conditions in those areas are beyond any comparison to what you were talking. Going by your opinion, one should carve out a separate state for each of these districts. No surprise you respond to those questions for which you seem to have a reply (not an answer) and ignore the rest.

I was watching TV9, a reporter asks the OU Student JAC leader what he thinks of damaging property worth millions ? The answer was that this damage is nothing compared to the one done to the people of Telangana for past 50 yrs. Bravo !!! I see people of such thought process to be unbecoming of citizens of the country. These kind of people are nothing but headless chickens with no personality of their own in what so ever shape or form. Shame Shame Shame

How extensively have you traveled the nation ? Have you ever heard of the places called kalahandi, koraput districts in Orissa. The living conditions in those areas are beyond any comparison to what you were talking. Going by your opinion, one should carve out a separate state for each of these districts.

Unfortunately, we do not represent those districts. If they have issues, they should fight for them. If you want to fight for them, that is fine too. Eitherway, we give a damn.

If your house is on fire, if I point out other houses that are on fire somewhere else in the world - that doesn't douse your fire, does it? Nor would you go and douse other houses fires first.

Sravan,Speculations are not same as reality. No one know how the Voltaire would have reacted to the present situation. People can have their own interpretations when someone puts an open ended question. So I would request Mr Sujai to be more specific with his questions. I don't know how the situation will look like once Telangana is formed, but I sincerely wish that Hyderabad should continue to progress for I spent 20 wonderful years of mine in that beautiful city. I hope I will not be a stranger in my own backyard.

Idler,Well said. I think you answered yourself. The people from Kalahandi and Koraput does have issues and they are indeed fighting. The difference is they are not asking for separate state.

I took those names for the sake of argument to understand how bad the situation is. Have you ever heard of people selling their month old babies for couple of rupees. Are the conditions in Telangana much worse than that ? Oh.. I am sorry you give a damn about it ... Right ? Grow up kid. We can use all the mighty words available in the English language dictionary , fighting in the blogosphere but none of us have the guts to really go out and face the situation on Ground-Zero. So chill out and stop giving a damn and start applying some empathy.

Oops that hurts..... Isn't it. Look at the direction the discussion went. This exactly is what our so called leaders wanted. Instead of solving the real problems, they chose divisive politics and pitting us against each other. All this virtual animosity is nothing but the creation of politicians.

By the way I am also from Telangana and lived my whole life in Hyderabad. I have no complaints against any one from any part of the state or country. Only politicians are the ones for whom there is no "Neethi" and "Jaathi". If you still want to continue arguing, be my guest.

Sravan,Speculations are not same as reality. No one know how the Voltaire would have reacted to the present situation. People can have their own interpretations when someone puts an open ended question. So I would request Mr Sujai to be more specific with his questions.SO you agree that you now atleast understand what was sujai intending to say. Ironically you still fail to recognize it.You Understand but fail to recognize. (applies to all other relevant connotations)Keep up andhrites

I don't know how the situation will look like once Telangana is formed, but I sincerely wish that Hyderabad should continue to progress for I spent 20 wonderful years of mine in that beautiful city. I hope I will not be a stranger in my own backyard.

We assure you if you believe yourself to be a telanganite not by virute of 20years of life but virtue of supporting separate telangana from an oppressive regime. Open your eyes!

And by the way, your reading comprehension is equally poor. I never said my empathy towards others is better than yours but you assumed it is and went further with it generalizing as "us". Does that mean all telanganites ? It cannot be, because then that would include me too :)

Going by your opinion, one should carve out a separate state for each of these districts. No surprise you respond to those questions for which you seem to have a reply (not an answer) and ignore the rest.

Vasu gaaaaaru!

Carving out states is not un-constitutional! They have been doing so since we got our independence. They will carve out more states in future too! :) You can bet on it.

Re-carving states doesn't have to divide people. But, some vested interests are hell-bent on being Anti-Telangana... and hence the noise.

De-centralization of power is a good thing... Having fewer students per classroom is a good thing... More attention and more growth.

Pavan gariki emi response ivvalantaru? He is hell bent on showing the sky, the moon, the stars and the problems of the world that he sees nightmares about.

Sravan, If you think the regime is oppressive, then we should fight for changing the regime. Why did we vote for the same regime just a few months ago if we thought the regime was oppressing the aspirations of the people of the land ? We should have voted for those leaders who would influence the change. Do we have any one who can suddenly become responsible and take care of the aspirations of the people once the new state carves out ? Again a pure speculation of me says that there is no one. If you think of anyone, please open my eyes.

Vasu, What I consistently observe in your arguments is you look at others statement in a diffrent context than intended to be,but you somehow in a childish way expect others to find the correct context in your words.Just like, when a child expects his father to drop the ball right infront where as he flicks it out of court.

Sravan,That does not answer my question. I may be childish with my argument but I do have a point which you are ignoring because you do not have an answer. Many great thoughts originated by being childish (basics my friend).

Archana gaaru,I don't see any merit in the statement "Pro-Andhra" and "Anti-Telangana". For me, all these regions are equal. One consistent argument I have seen from fellow commenters is that this balance is tilted towards andhra and rayalaseema. I do accept the fact that many agreements which were made during the time of unification were disregarded over a period of time. But don't we have equal responsibility of blame. Come on, we have elected leaders from telangana as well and we even had a Prime Minister hailing from telangana. Think about it a PM... for 5 long years but nothing was done to uplift the backwardness of the region. The states of Jharkhand, Uttarakhand and Chattisgarh were formed because they were far off from the nerve centers of the state. They were remote districts. To counter my own argument, these places were far-off from the capital and other major economic centers of the state. Whereas telangana has the capital of the state.It has 119 MLAs representing the region at the state assembly. If these 119 clowns could not ensure progress for the region, what makes us believe that they will once a new state is formed. If this movement has come from grassroots and has nothing to do with politics, then the resolution should also be free from politics.

Vasu If you think the regime is oppressive, then we should fight for changing the regime. Why did we vote for the same regime just a few months ago if we thought the regime was oppressing the aspirations of the people of the land ? We should have voted for those leaders who would influence the change. Do we have any one who can suddenly become responsible and take care of the aspirations of the people once the new state carves out ? Again a pure speculation of me says that there is no one. If you think of anyone, please open my eyes.Well this question should first go to those like you who support Samaikhyandra.To be clear, Why did they vote those who supported separation?You prove my speculation. You understand but fail, rather say deny to recognize

Not so fast my friend. You should not give up so early. There is a saying in telugu "Nijam eppudu cheduga vuntundi". You soon will get used to people like me and you will have no other choice but to ignore. Until then let the ball roll.....

Sravan,You seem to be becoming more and more predictable now. If my memory is not as good as yours, I still think the pro-separation strength in current state of Andhra Pradesh is approximately 10. I may be wrong but hey this is an approximation. So people who voted for pro-separate state represented 10/294*100=3.4%. You do your numbers. Amen

Thanks for your sympathy. I am sure I need more people like you to empower my knowledge. But the question that begs to be asked is, so all 119 MLAs from Telangana were for separation from Day 1 ? Can we rewind the tape little bit and listen to the statements made by these representatives in the past ? Does that show them consistently fighting for the cause of separate state of Telangana or masking themselves as someone which they are not ?

Thanks for your sympathy. I am sure I need more people like you to empower my knowledge. But the question that begs to be asked is, so all 119 MLAs from Telangana were for separation from Day 1 ? Can we rewind the tape little bit and listen to the statements made by these representatives in the past ? Does that show them consistently fighting for the cause of separate state of Telangana or masking themselves as someone which they are not ?

This agains proves it. You funderstand but obstinatelly fai l to recognize.

You just now completely turned your perspective.

With that I stop to relpy to enrich your ignorance.YOu may feel jubilant over that like you were a while ago.But that only proves my other speculation about you childish nature.Like you said,Many great thoughts originated by being childish (basics my friend).But this no way warrants childish arguments. You again fail to recognize the truth in this aphorism eventhough yu seem to undeerstand it.I only hope you will grow up soon.

And this is for all you clowns : I have nothing against one region of the state. Let us not make this personal and try to keep the focus on the real issue. And please just because you cannot answer to some of my questions, do not brand me as someone who is bankrupt of knowledge on telangana history. We all read the same source of information for our arguments. I am sure none of us were born when the unification took place and all we know is either from our parents or grandparents or from internet. So we all read the same information and interpret them suitable to our convenience. Stop lecturing me and lecture yourselves and focus your energies on how to be constructive and productive than de-generative.

So we all read the same information and interpret them suitable to our convenience. Stop lecturing me and lecture yourselves and focus your energies on how to be constructive and productive than de-generative.

Which is what I did... when I replied to your 'Archana' addressed posts.

Mr. Vasu, No one is propagating HATE here. No one is mis-interpreting or even interpreting any un-known history.

Hey what you said are partly true and partly false as any story. But dont mix common people with politicians. Everyone is suffering because of idiotic,illiterate and immoral politicians we have. Its because of your own telangana politicians you were not developed. They couldn't defend your causes all these years. Even if you have a new state, you will have same politicians and they will eat away the existing resources as well. So we have to revolt against immoral,corrupt and stubborn political system.

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