All it takes to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun: part the whatever

So now it’s The Navy Yard, in Washington DC – a place bursting with military personnel located in the city with the largest per capita police presence in the entire United States of America. They couldn’t stop a bad guy with a gun.

So far 12 dead, 16 injured, including a cop. Can we get a quote from Wayne LaPierre?

When I was in a sonar R&D unit in the early 1970’s I had a few occasions to visit the Naval Sea Systems Command. It was a vast warren of rather dingy administrative offices then located not at the Navy Yard but Crystal City, VA, just across the Potomac from D.C. At that time there was no security to the place at all and anybody could walk in from the street. I heard one reporter speculate that a reported second suspect might have been merely an armed military person reacting to the shots fired, so maybe people do go around there packing heat. But if they do, as you say Moe, it didn’t stop the bad guy. As I have often said, not even hunters need semi-automatic rifles. If you don’t get the deer with the first shot, you’re done with that one.

More insanity. How many times does this have to happen before we outlaw semiautomatic weapons and large capacity loaders. Why does Wayne LaPierre have so much power? All gun owners are not stupid, just the ones who feel the need to have semiautomatic guns.

True, homicides do correlate with race, but with what else? How about poverty? How about education level? Shall we disarm on those bases? There’s a lot of poor crackers in the South that are going to be pretty upset if we do, IMO.

Two, all the cries to ban firearms keep ignoring the fact that most firearms used in crimes are used by Blacks, even though Blacks are only 13% of the population.

Three, the vast majority – 99%+ – of the “scary” firearms that the current crop of gun-grabbers are never used in a crime. The same cannot be said for low-end pistols.

Four, why is it that you all will gladly argue for the infringement of the rights of so many but argue against the infringement of the rights for a far fewer number of people based upon proven statistics? You want measurable, positives results don’t you?

jonolan – you know perfectly well that these conversations that spring up after things like the Navy Yard and Sandy Hook aren’t about guns per se. They’re about mass killings and the weapons used. And in mass killings in one place,, in my memory, he’s the first black shooter.

There have been plenty of them, depending upon how strictly one defines these things. Admittedly though, the Black spree killers tend to be more mobile in the attack pattern. Killing many in one place is not a common part of their pathology.

He already messed up the data for the profile much as the Beltway Sniper – also Black – skewed the numbers of the old sniper killer profile. Face it, some of the Blacks, at least, are integrating into American society. 8-|

American’s LOVE their guns….
And after the last go round ?
It’s has turned into a 2nd Amendment RIGHTS issue….
Look at the Colorado recalss….
Democrats need to stay away from the issue …
It’s a loser for them….
Sad…But VERY True….

james – sadly I mostly agree with you. For the present, the argument about funs guns is pretty much over. We can’t restrict them no matter how logical doing do would be. To the pro guns zealots (a clear but powerful minority) it’s all about the ‘slippery slope’ as they see it.

The truth is “racist,” Jim. I just don’t hide from it or refuse to speak it. I care no more about being called racist or making judgements based upon culture that is sadly defined by race than you do about stripping the Constitutional right from Whites.

If you want immediate, positive results in reducing firearm violence, disarm the Blacks by force. You’ll get a huge drop right there.

Would that be wrong? Sure! No more wrong, indeed less wrong by the measure of innocents affected, than any sweeping, untargeted gun-grabbing though.

Nope. I don’t Blacks. Hell! I’m married to one and live in the “hood” in NYC. I do, however, hate the ones that a part of the Black Culture of criminality, violence, and worthlessness – as do the Blacks that surround me for the most part, and they’re a LOT less shy than I am letting the bad element know that they don’t belong any near our block.

As for mass shootings – Whites have committed more of them but Blacks are demographically over-represented, especially if you include multi-location killing sprees.

In any event, Blacks account for 50%+ of the violent crime in the US despite being only 13% of the population. Ponder that and, while you’re at it, ponder why this is largely ignored whenever someone talks about gun-grabbing.