tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309999347712183025.post6784975759509122269..comments2017-09-01T14:38:04.676-04:00Comments on kinexxions: Why did he do this?Becky Wisemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08074730861618500334noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309999347712183025.post-63699069519584683382007-10-01T20:23:00.000-04:002007-10-01T20:23:00.000-04:00Terry - the signatures on the copies of the land r...Terry - the signatures on the copies of the land records that I have are in the same writing as the clerk that recorded the transaction. This makes sense since the transaction is being recorded after the fact.<BR/><BR/>fM - Perhaps I should also have mentioned that there is no death record for James. Indiana didn't start keeping those records until the 1880's and then only sporadically until about 1907 when it was mandated by the state. There is no obituary for him in the available newspapers for that time period. There is no cemetery record for James. Several of his granddaughters (children of his son Lysander) died in Whitley county between 1850 and 1860 and are buried in the Adams Cemetery, not far from where they lived. There is no estate record for James, no will record, no probate record, no guardianship records for what would have been his minor children had he died during that time period. The last record I have for James in Whitley County (or anywhere for that matter) is the 1850 census.<BR/><BR/>My first thought when I found this years ago was that he'd done something stupid and this was perhaps his way of protecting his land. If he didn't own it then it couldn't be taken away for bad debt or whatever.<BR/><BR/>With that in mind, there is another set of records that I have not checked yet and that is the civil court records, i.e., any actions that might have been taken against him or that he might have taken against someone else in a court of law. So that will be my next step.<BR/><BR/>Thanks to you both for your suggestions and ideas.Beckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08074730861618500334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309999347712183025.post-47054128261078291232007-10-01T17:59:00.000-04:002007-10-01T17:59:00.000-04:00Becky:I have found your mystery to be very intrigu...Becky:<BR/><BR/>I have found your mystery to be very intriguing.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps James contracted an illness that he knew would eventually kill him and he set about to secure his sons' futures by giving them their inheritance through sale prior to his death rather than probate after his passing.<BR/><BR/>The oldest first and when James lived three more years to the two younger sons. Six years later James has disappeared.<BR/><BR/>There can be so many reasons. It's fun to play "what if", but the reasons were probably very innocuous.<BR/><BR/>fMThe footnoteMavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136826114954180827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309999347712183025.post-57526710813686053232007-10-01T17:58:00.000-04:002007-10-01T17:58:00.000-04:00Becky, One other thing to look for in situations l...Becky, One other thing to look for in situations like this --- is the signature a mark or the person's actual signature. If a mark, look carefully at the official who signed and at the two witnesses. Sometimes strange things happened in the real estate world of yesteryear to help heirs avoid probate and problems of one's dying intestate. Just some ideas. <BR/>Terry Thornton<BR/>Hill Country of Monroe County, MississippiTerry Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01251750196282728118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309999347712183025.post-26850004284077750062007-10-01T15:57:00.000-04:002007-10-01T15:57:00.000-04:00Terry - the dates I gave were the dates when the d...Terry - the dates I gave were the dates when the deeds were signed, thus the ages given for the boys are the ages they were when the deeds were signed.<BR/><BR/>The sale to Lysander was dated July 2, 1841, filed on June 13, 1842, and recorded on June 16, 1842.<BR/><BR/>The sales to Joseph and Edwin were both signed August 1, 1844, filed August 14, 1849 and recorded on August 15, 1849.<BR/><BR/>Lysander born May 1, 1825; Edwin was born about 1830; and Joseph was born September 11, 1832.<BR/><BR/>The original land purchase by James Joslin on August 25, 1838 was not recorded until October 14, 1885!Beckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08074730861618500334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309999347712183025.post-67657674641946825992007-10-01T15:24:00.000-04:002007-10-01T15:24:00.000-04:00Becky, Take a look at when the deeds were recorded...Becky, Take a look at when the deeds were recorded. Compare the dates carefully. I ran into a case in my family where two deeds were given on the same date: one buying the property (father selling to son) and the other (son selling the property to someone else). The second sale deed was for less money than the first one!! And neither deed was recorded for a period of almost three years. So check on those dates of signing and of recording. <BR/>Terry Thornton<BR/>Hill County of Monroe County, MississippiTerry Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01251750196282728118noreply@blogger.com