Not many people could see the difference between Agni's Philosophy and the PS4 Sorcerer tech demo. So I doubt anyone will really see a difference between the Xbox One and Playstation 4.

I don't see the correlation. Agni's was running on HIGH END PC. If you're gonna make comparison between PS4 and X1, at least compare the PS4 games with games (or tech demos) that actually ran on the X1.

Forza 5 is using canned lighting, and isn't an "open world" type racer that DC appears to be. That being said, Forza 5 still looks pretty darn good. And the other 60fps game was Killer Instinct. Fighting games are very simplistic compared other game types, so you bet your ass it better be running at 60fps. What we should take from all of these comparisons, is that NONE of these games that DF or Eurogamer have compared are FINISHED, nor are they comparing the SAME GAME on one machine to the other.

forza 5 looks graphically better to me than drive club and is locked at 1080p60. Both games aren't finished but drive club wont end up being 60 fps when finally done, it will remain 30 fps (1080p30 is the target). being open world doesnt take away from the fact that the graphics and FR are looking better in forza 5. imo, drive club wasn't the launch racer to showcase ps4's power. evolution shouldve done a next gen motorstorm instead.

"These comments align with Jack Trettonís comments of the PS4 housing the best looking software. We reported last week that Tretton believes the PS4 is the most power console --*full story here.In addition to praising the PS4ís power, Tretton also encouraged people to ask third-party developers which platform is best. Moreover, he wants people to compare multiplatform games side-by-side because he is certain the PS4 will have the best visuals."

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If I wasn't already getting a PS4, that guy would easily talk me into getting one.

the difference is going to be very minimal, i dont believe anyone saying ps4 versions will look 'noticeably better' than xbox or vice versa. so far in the exclusives shown for each console, the xbox seems to be pushing more games at 60 fps. for eg., forza 5 is doing 60 fps whereas drive club is stuck at 30 fps i believe.

You saying the difference will be minimal holds just as much/little water as someone saying that the difference between the 2 consoles is very noticeable.

Until both consoles are released we wont really know.

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not even talking about the unnamed developer. if you want to talk about developer's opinions then there are plenty of them out there making bold statements.

however, logically and mathematically, the PS4 is likely going to be significantly more powerful. if there's something we don't understand then it may not turn out to be a significant difference but I just don't believe that you can overcome raw power that easily, there should still be a good amount of difference.

so not only it's significantly more powerful on paper, it is much more efficient and straightforward too...so there shouldn't be anything that would hold off that power like we saw with the PS3. not to mention, anything Xbox One is trying to bring with its helpers is likely going to be negated by PS4's dedicated chips that will reduce overhead by a significant amount.

any way you look at it, all evidence suggests that PS4 is going to be noticeably more powerful. and let's not forget, we still need to know how much One will use for its 3 OSs. As of now, the rumor is 3GB...if that's true then there's another significant hit that the One will have as opposed to the PS4's faster 7GB RAM available to the developers.

there's no argument here honestly. the only thing we can do from here on is wait and see what variation we may see with what sort of games. I'm thinking we're going to see less variation in difference with cross-gen games, then a little more with multiplats (especially ambitious ones), then more with exclusives (that don't necessarily take advantage of the hardware fully) and then last but definitely not least the exclusives that do take advantage. it's probably going to be unfair for One because Sony just has more skilled developers but who cares lol. I personally think it's going to be a drive-by bloodbath.

forza 5 looks graphically better to me than drive club and is locked at 1080p60. Both games aren't finished but drive club wont end up being 60 fps when finally done, it will remain 30 fps (1080p30 is the target). being open world doesnt take away from the fact that the graphics and FR are looking better in forza 5. imo, drive club wasn't the launch racer to showcase ps4's power. evolution shouldve done a next gen motorstorm instead.

Drive Club easily looks better than Forza 5.

Forza 5 can not even remotely be confused as anything other than a video game.

I don't see the correlation. Agni's was running on HIGH END PC. If you're gonna make comparison between PS4 and X1, at least compare the PS4 games with games (or tech demos) that actually ran on the X1.

Agni's ran on a 680GTX well over twice the power of the PS4. And the PS4 is only 50% more powerful than the Xbox One. If you don't see the correlation, then I cannot help you.

I wasn't arguing wether or not they would look better, I was simply implying that coolguy pulled that post out of his ass, without backing any of his talk up with reasons or causes to why he might say that.

But if you want my opinion about third party games will look better on PS4, then yeah they probably will, but I don't think we will see that happen untill after a year or two after the two consoles release

It still looks better than Drive Club imo. That's judging from what we have seen now though, Evolution Studios usually does a lot of polishing at the end of a games development, so there's a chance Drive Club will look a lot better at release.

Seriously, Forza 5 is underwhelming as hell. Their car shaders are cartoonish, and that's not intentional, by their own words they are attempting the greatest fidelity possible, and they are not there. At all.

Yeah I notice that the Forza car models have always had a cartoonish look to them. Also Forza 5 has baked lighting and no day/night cycles and no weather.

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