I was working as a junior rep for an oil company at the time and I was on leave for two weeks, just bumming around Uruguay and Paraguay, and one of the guys I knew at Procter & Gamble said I should come up and meet him at this dinner party they were having and prepare to have my mind blown.

Hitler was one of the nicest guys I ever met. He was very frail at the time but his English and his manners were perfect. He kept asking me about my favorite hobby (photography) and he said he would give me an old Leica he had, which he would send on to me at my main address in Montevideo. Never arrived though.

I have no idea when he died. 1970 in Argentina, rumor has it.

Thought you might like to know .... Just an oldie on his way out with cancer making a small internet confession before the curtain drops.

In his book "Inside the Third Reich" Albert Speer describes the poor state of Hitler's health and his constant stomach problems. Hitler was so concerned the allies would discover his health problems that he wouldn't go to a regular doctor and the only doctor who was seeing him was believed at that time to be a quack. According to Speer, Hitler didn't expect to live long and was going to retire after winning the war. The last pictures of him also show evidence of Parkinson's disease. It's interesting that the conspiracy theorists don't talk about his serious health problems and the extensive medical care he would have needed.

An interview with Peter Levenda, author of "Ratline" and "Unholy Alliance". He explains how Hitler and Eva Braun escaped to Indonesia, and how he found many clues supporting this when he went there to investigate.

"It takes far less effort to find and move to the society that has what you want than it does to try to reconstruct an existing society to match your standards." - Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World

MrPeabody wrote: It's interesting that the conspiracy theorists don't talk about his serious health problems and the extensive medical care he would have needed.

You're not addressing the fact that his death was faked, as the skeletal remains demonstrate. If his death was faked, it was faked. His health doesn't change that.

BTW -- "conspiracy theorist" is an unnecessary pejorative. Why not keep it civil here? And anyway, there is no conspiracy mentioned on this thread.

If the FBI is trying to figure out whether some fugitive is really alive, and faked his own death, does that make them "conspiracy theorists"? In the recent manhunt for Dorner here in Southern California, he got trapped and killed. But noone was ready to close the case till the body was conclusively ID'd. Because the guy was resourceful, and had pulled off some surprises before.

No conspiracy here. No secret Nazis running Wall Street. No "Boys from Brazil". No "The Formula".

Just two competing theories.

One theory says Hitler died in the bunker by his own hand. No proof, except testimony of his personal staff, who follow orders unquestioningly. Plausible, other Germans did commit suicide rather than fall into Soviet hands.

Another theory says he escaped. Very plausible, that's what most people try to do, if they have the resources. Being a wartime dictator, Hitler obviously did.

Winston wrote:An interview with Peter Levenda, author of "Ratline" and "Unholy Alliance". He explains how Hitler and Eva Braun escaped to Indonesia, and how he found many clues supporting this when he went there to investigate.

Winston wrote:An interview with Peter Levenda, author of "Ratline" and "Unholy Alliance". He explains how Hitler and Eva Braun escaped to Indonesia, and how he found many clues supporting this when he went there to investigate.

Thought you were going to give up Coast to Coast and Rense and that British mystic David Icke. Some sources are not trustworthy.

Yeah but it depends on the guest. Some of the guests are good. And this one sounds very informative.

As to the topic, I'm not sure what to make. It is true that the skull fragment that the Soviets had turned out to be that of a woman, who was not the same age as Eva Braun. So they do not seem to have Hitler's remains.

But on the other hand, after WWII ended, Hitler would have had nothing to live for. His dreams and destiny were shattered. So why would he have wanted to continue on? He also believed that failing Nazis should commit suicide, so if he killed himself, it would be in accord with his belief that he espoused onto other Nazis. In fact, he ordered all the German people to commit suicide, so why wouldn't he do that himself too?

Unless of course, he was playacting all along and was working for the Zionists all along, as some conspiracy researchers allege. Either way, he was funded by powerful forces early on, so he likely did started out as an agent for them. But whether he rebelled against his benefactors or did their bidding all along is not clear.

"It takes far less effort to find and move to the society that has what you want than it does to try to reconstruct an existing society to match your standards." - Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World

Winston wrote:
...But on the other hand, after WWII ended, Hitler would have had nothing to live for. His dreams and destiny were shattered. So why would he have wanted to continue on? He also believed that failing Nazis should commit suicide, so if he killed himself, it would be in accord with his belief that he espoused onto other Nazis. In fact, he ordered all the German people to commit suicide, so why wouldn't he do that himself too?

For all he knew, the U.S. and the Soviets would start fighting each other. Patton wanted to do so in 1945, We came close again in 1961 and 1962. (Also in 1973.) Plus there was a workers revolt in East Germany in 1958. And Soviet rule DID end around 1989 (?). Knowing how long all this would take was just guesswork. Hitler didn't have a crystal ball. But he may have clung to the hope that the Allies would withdraw from Germany, and he (or his followers) could return.

After all he had lived through the fall of the Kaiser, defeat in World War One, occupation, communism in Bavaria, Communist gangs in Berlin, and then risen to power. Plus as a soldier in World War One he had miraculously survived the most dangerous assignment, running ammo along trenches. He was used to expecting miracles.

All that, plus he had promised Eva a kid (I bet).

And as a European, knowing history, Hitler was aware of great comebacks and restorations like Napoleon returning to France from exile in Elba.

Winston wrote:
Unless of course, he was playacting all along and was working for the Zionists all along, as some conspiracy researchers allege. Either way, he was funded by powerful forces early on, so he likely did started out as an agent for them. But whether he rebelled against his benefactors or did their bidding all along is not clear.

Early on he took money he knew to be from financiers. But many people take money from people trying to play them, and just figure they will later outsmart the folks who are financing them.

Hitler came DAMN close to doing so. By 1945, the Germans had even invented and tested atomic weapons... but too late.

"It takes far less effort to find and move to the society that has what you want than it does to try to reconstruct an existing society to match your standards." - Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World