There seems to be a lot of doubt as to whether the news of a new Dark Forces game is legit. I'm just curious to see how many think it is real and how many think it is fake. Also, please post why you think it is one or the other. When we know for sure, one side can taunt the other side :)

swphreak

03-30-2003, 10:11 PM

It is real, I've seen pics and acording to an article, the game is 60% complete

boinga1

03-30-2003, 10:44 PM

i say fake- at least for the moment. either that or some of the rumors are false, such as the 60% done part.

master_thomas

03-30-2003, 10:46 PM

I think it's real.

They do screenshots of what looks like a rancor and a jawa, the player customization menus, and other new features. Many pictures.

Besides, they aren't stupid. Imagine how much trouble they would get into if this was a hoax. The forums were slowed by the impouring posts and threads. Why would they go through all this trouble for an April Fool's joke.

Lord_Plo_Koon

03-30-2003, 10:47 PM

I think its real. I hope. I made a fan page: Here (http://www.geocities.com/jediknightiii)

Reborn Outcast

03-30-2003, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by StarWarsPhreak
It is real, I've seen pics and acording to an article, the game is 60% complete

So? Its an article. Articles can be April fools jokes.

Originally posted by master_thomas
I think it's real.

They do screenshots of what looks like a rancor and a jawa, the player customization menus, and other new features. Many pictures.

There was a Rancor in Mysteries of the Sith. For Raven and their programmers and graphic designers, it would be an easy task to fix up the environment around it.

Originally posted by master_thomas
Besides, they aren't stupid. Imagine how much trouble they would get into if this was a hoax. The forums were slowed by the impouring posts and threads. Why would they go through all this trouble for an April Fool's joke.

Why would they get in trouble? Its their partnership for the games and LucasArts hasn't said anything against it so they wouldnt get in trouble. Although it would make many people angry at them.

And why would they get in trouble because this forum was slowed down?

April Fools jokes by companies have been known to be elaborate. Patch 1.1 for Diablo 2 was SAID to come out last April 1st but it was all an April Fools joke by Blizzard.

DarkLord60

03-30-2003, 11:35 PM

Sure why not.

dark jedi 8

03-30-2003, 11:39 PM

the quality of the screenshots makes me think its real!:D

Taos

03-30-2003, 11:55 PM

I sure hope it's not a fake. It just has me concerned because of how soon it is coming out after the release of JO. If it weren't for that, I think I would be more convinced.

Since I have to go one way, I'm going to say, I think it's legit.

Reborn Outcast

03-31-2003, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by dark jedi 8
the quality of the screenshots makes me think its real!:D

This is Raven's top graphics artists and everything we're talking about. I'm sure they could make it look very real. And since those are still shots, it would be very easy for them to make.

DigitalVapor

03-31-2003, 02:12 AM

Doesnt anyone remember a couple months ago that survey that was sent around from raven and LEC asking what we wanted to see in jk3? Or how about the fact that several months ago, Raven mentioned that they were working on JK3 still using the modified Q3A engine. And that they were considering having someone else as the main character instead of Kyle. From what I have seen so far, many of the features of JK3 were the most popular requests on the survey, such as making Kyle an npc, having different hilts and including dual sabers and lightstaffs. and of course alot of people clicked on the answer for incorporating some RPG like elements into it. This is the real deal and as a digital artist I can tell you that these pics are not doctored and are not of JK2 with a mod. it is REAL. Also the 60% complete is very possible. Raven should have no problem getting JK3 done so fast because they are building on JK2. With JK2, they had to modify the engine before they could start building. they had whole lot more to do in various other aspects as well. but since JK3 is using JK2 as a foundation, all they really have to do is implement the new features, code and models. Basicaly you could say JK3 is just a mod on a very massive scale. And since they have a team that works on it constantly and they get paid to do it, the game gets done fast, unlike some of these insufferable fanmade TCs that seem to NEVER get completed. so I will say it again. IT IS REAL DANG IT!!!

------edit-----
I just looked into the news. Activision accidentaly made it known during thier Quarterly Earnings conference call. they passingly mentioned that a sequel to JK2 was in the works and is expected out sometime between April 2003 and March-2004. So it is official. JK3 is real!!!

Crowy

03-31-2003, 08:34 AM

it has to be partly real at least... they would have at least started work on a jk2 expansion/jk3 by now! i hope.... if not... EVERYONES ALLOWED TO DREAM!!!

griff38

03-31-2003, 09:44 AM

Good call Prime, I have not seen any screenshots that could not have been faked with PaintShopPro.

And it is awfully close to April fools day. And until Lucasarts press release says so,

I say it's a joke.

Kstar__2

03-31-2003, 10:20 AM

*starts singing*

yeah, i'm a be-liever

:D

Mero Vilul

03-31-2003, 10:36 AM

I want to believe it but with the "special site" for JK3 opening up on 1 april.... well, I can't believe it... logic...

Prime

03-31-2003, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by Leemu Taos
I sure hope it's not a fake. It just has me concerned because of how soon it is coming out after the release of JO. If it weren't for that, I think I would be more convinced.

Since I have to go one way, I'm going to say, I think it's legit. Well, if the fall release date is accurate, that will make it about a year and a half after the release of JO. This maybe a little early for a completely new game, but I don't think it is too early for an expansion. Besides, since there has been no official announcement, we don't even know if this new game will be called JK3! I expect that if it is true that it will, in fact, be an expansion...

P.S. Leemu Taos, where did you get your great avator from? What was the original source?

I remember I did this report in English, read all the evidence and said I didn't think the UFOs were a hoax, all those lights and explosions weren't faked. I finished the report, checked the date and it had taken place on Guy Fawkes night....

Still, although its nearly April 1st, the reports came out yesterday right? Hmm, if it is a fake, I WILL be sending Raven some nasty emails :atat: :atat: :atat:

CanadianSurfer

03-31-2003, 06:26 PM

:wstupid:

Who would honestly think it's fake? I mean come on, there are screenshots and you've heard it from at least 3 programmers....

Kengo

03-31-2003, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by CanadianSurfer
:wstupid:

Who would honestly think it's fake? I mean come on, there are screenshots and you've heard it from at least 3 programmers....

I resent that :D

I may be stupid but at least I'm cynical! Hmm, I guess that's not really good....

getting people to say that stuff and convince us that it is real is a big part of a good april fools' joke...but i hope to heaven that it is real.

Kengo

03-31-2003, 06:42 PM

I never liked April Fool's stuff......

*Innocent person drinks coffee*

Person 2: AHAHAHAH, we just put rat poison in your coffee and you drank it!!! APRIL FOOLS!!! AHAHAHA
Person 3: AHAHAH, he fell for it, ahahahaha

Me: Hang on a second, isn't he going to die now, or at least become seriously ill? And how is this funny? And how is it OK to attempt to murder people just because it's april 1st?

I mean, what IS that?

LOST_Dirt

03-31-2003, 08:32 PM

I think its odd that there is nothing on gamespot about it.

t3rr0r

03-31-2003, 08:44 PM

seeing as something jk related was announced in a game magazine over a month ago... i'll definately have to say it's legit.

Toonces

03-31-2003, 09:10 PM

Well, since our good friend Mr. Gummelt has made a number of rare cameo appearances here in the Valley durring the past 24-48 hrs, I'm definatly leaning tward the legit side :D

Prime

03-31-2003, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by Kengo
I resent that :D

I may be stupid but at least I'm cynical! Hmm, I guess that's not really good....

I may be cynical and stupid, but at least I'm not optomistic! Don't listen to them Kengo!! :)

Wacky_Baccy

03-31-2003, 10:06 PM

I do believe we can close the thread and settle any bets now - see here for why (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1091166#post1091144) :D

Prime

03-31-2003, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by Wacky_Baccy
I do believe we can close the thread and settle any bets now - see here for why (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1091166#post1091144) :D You beat me to it :)

Here is the relavent section of the linked post from ChangKhan[RAVEN]:

Okay, well, first off, if I'm going to answer any of the questions, I guess I need to admit that we are, indeed, making this game (should be pretty obvious by now, so no-one should get mad at me for admitting as much). No, it's not a hoax/joke/rumor, no, it's not an expansion pack, it is a full, complete, stand-alone game. And it's called Jedi Knight III right now for lack of a better name, I, personally, would not call it a "sequel" to JK2 since I think a DF/JK game should always be about the Katarns (maybe a true JK3 could be about Kyle and Jan's child, who perhaps shows a particularly strong adeptness with the Force...?) So I wouldn't be surprised if the name doesn't stay "Jedi Knight III" (but who knows). Not that it's not a full game, it's bigger than JK2 in terms of gameplay, content and features, it's just not, in my opinion, the true sequel to JK2. I think that one shouldn't be done for a year or so and should probably use a new engine.

So all you nay-sayers were crying for nothing :) Sorry, had to get a jab in there...

Reborn Outcast

03-31-2003, 10:46 PM

You guys dont seem to get that just because 3 programmers who WORK FOR RAVEN and are very advanced in their ability to make graphics pics, does NOT mean that its real. This could very well be a very elaborate hoax. But it would be nice if it wasn't. :D

dark jedi 8

03-31-2003, 11:05 PM

your really skeptical outcast.?:D

Reborn Outcast

03-31-2003, 11:17 PM

Yea sorry. :D But I dont want to be caught off-guard if they announce that it was an April Fools joke. Don't get me wrong, I can't wait for this to come out but I don't want to be unprepaired if they were just toying with us. :D

OnlyOneCanoli

03-31-2003, 11:25 PM

Now that we have Mike Gummelt on this very message board, discussing and CONFIRMING the game, I don't think there's much room for debate. Regardless, April Fool's jokes generally happen on April 1st, not a few days ahead of time.

This would be an extremely elaborate and infinitely stupid hoax if it were one. Between a respected German gaming magaizine, a respectable gaming news site (JKII.net ;)), and the lead programmer from JKII, the potential for decreased slaes/traffic in their respective markets is just too great to ultimately piss off and alienate an entire gaming community. It is simply horrid and insane business practice to do such a thing.

No way this is a hoax.

Andy867

04-01-2003, 09:41 AM

I have official word from Kenn Hoekstra, Project Leader of Raven Games, that there shall be in fact, a 3rd Jedi Knight game, however, it will not be known officially as Jedi Knight 3, since it isn't a true sequel, since Kyle Katarn is no longer the lead character in the storyline. He will be in the game though, and a major role apparently, but his time as being the main character is over. Make way for the new wave of Jedi Knights.