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Who cares? Parallax has moved on with the Propeller, which is vastly superior to anything PIC-related. Get on board with the Propeller, and leave your PIC fixation behind. It's yesterday's news. Seriously.

-Phil

Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -Antoine de Saint-Exupery

I think hobbyist's are free to continue development of Stamps on their own.

Your opinions are what they are.Opinions.

I think your comments are way out of line.

Phil does have a point though. PICs are very limited, and Basic Stamps are constrained by those limitations. That's not to say that PIC's have no use. Their low cost and small packages do make them useful for simple tasks like switches, valve controllers, remote sensors, and thousands of other similar tasks.

If you want to develop a better stamp you could design a PCB using a chip with more memory and cpu hp. An alternative would be to start with the Propeller Mini or Flip (or some other PCB) and use or modify one of the existing languages to run on it. Just think of it, one module that could be used as a Basic Stamp, Blockly Stamp, Forth Stamp, C Stamp, or ??? Stamp. The Propeller has the resources to be so much more than anything you could build with the PIC.

In science there is no authority. There is only experiment.
Life is unpredictable. Eat dessert first.

In all regards I believe that Phil is making a good point here.
I only use the Stamp when my application is of simple form and style. And I've been looking at ideas for the Prop, however it, like the Raspberry Pi, have one limitation, that's difficult for the (advanced) beginner to surmount, that of both devices are 3v3 style logic. Level translators are available, TI definitely makes one as a member of a series of them, Adafruit makes up one, and so does a Belgian firm, and so does Tinkersphere as it happens.

However my Netduino uses 3v3 logic internally but its GPIO points are in fact 5v tolerant. We know from previous discussions that the Prop isn't. And I know from discussing it in their forum that the Raspberry Pi isn't ether.

So let's be careful here who we complain about. I believe this is the last anything on this subject.
**Walks off grumbling in a decidedly strange language spoken on a planet that's slowly rusting itself to pieces.**

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I only use the Stamp when my application is of simple form and style. And I've been looking at ideas for the Prop, however it, like the Raspberry Pi, have one limitation, that's difficult for the (advanced) beginner to surmount, that of both devices are 3v3 style logic. Level translators are available, TI definitely makes one as a member of a series of them, Adafruit makes up one, and so does a Belgian firm, and so does Tinkersphere as it happens.

However my Netduino uses 3v3 logic internally but its GPIO points are in fact 5v tolerant. We know from previous discussions that the Prop isn't. And I know from discussing it in their forum that the Raspberry Pi isn't ether.

If you need simple and 5V modules, then the Ardunio covers the 8-bit side, and there are ARM cores that are 5V operating, so you can get 5V ARM 'ardunios'
Nuvoton have some M0 and M4 cored Ardunio header modules here

And there's an important point: the Propeller can be programmed in Spin, BASIC, C, and even Forth! I do not understand the fixation on the long-dead SX or even the BASIC Stamp which, while still serviceable (we use them in products at EFX-TEK), is old tech by comparison.

Actors watch behaviors. What fascinates me is that this young member has made no substantive contribution to the community that I can gather (I could be wrong), but is incredibly demanding vis-a-vis what Parallax should be doing and how they should run their business. It's almost as if he's tried the products he wishes Parallax would produce, but not found a support community like that available to Parallax customers.... Again, I could be wrong.

Actors watch behaviors. What fascinates me is that this young member has made no substantive contribution to the community that I can gather (I could be wrong), but is incredibly demanding vis-a-vis what Parallax should be doing and how they should run their business. It's almost as if he's tried the products he wishes Parallax would produce, but not found a support community like that available to Parallax customers.... Again, I could be wrong.

I've pretty much decided that he is a poorly designed AI project.

Re-inventing the wheel is not a waste of time if, when you are done, you understand why it is round.

Hello!
Thank you Tom! But I happen to know that Watson everyone's favorite AI, is not interested in our community. He has better things to do. In fact he's plugged into a series of groups on Yahooie for an emulator for the IBM S/390 family. And actually has an unpronounceable human name and a Yahooie e-mail address to go with it.

I see a lot of myself in microcontrolleruser. I think he's an enthusiastic Russian kid or something who just doesn't have money to buy equipment/parts. So instead he just spins his wheels here with stream-of-consciousness pontification.

So I propose we start a drive. Each of us can order and dropship one item to microcontrolleruser. It will be very, very cheap:

I also propose as 50:1 posting ratio. So for every 50 posts, microcontrolleruser has to order at least one item from Parallax or Sparkfun, etc, to show he's serious. Or in lieu of this he can post an update pic of a current project he is working on with above mentioned parts.

I will also partake in this drive, as long as his address is in the US.

I see a lot of myself in microcontrolleruser. I think he's an enthusiastic Russian kid or something who just doesn't have money to buy equipment/parts. So instead he just spins his wheels here with stream-of-consciousness pontification.

So I propose we start a drive. Each of us can order and dropship one item to microcontrolleruser. It will be very, very cheap:

I also propose as 50:1 posting ratio. So for every 50 posts, microcontrolleruser has to order at least one item from Parallax or Sparkfun, etc, to show he's serious. Or in lieu of this he can post an update pic of a current project he is working on with above mentioned parts.

I will also partake in this drive, as long as his address is in the US.

I'm still confused about the subject of this thread. Is it "What is the story here?" or what? PBasic vs. PICBasic is old ... has been discussed before. There's a lot of past history on Microchip vs. Ubicom and Parallax that's also been discussed and you can look up on Wikipedia. Thanks to that, Chip and Ken decided that Parallax shouldn't be dependent on someone else's intellectual property ... hence the development of the Propeller 1 and soon 2. Whatever your opinions of the Basic Stamps including their SX versions, Parallax has moved on wholeheartedly to the use of their Propeller architecture. They occasionally will use a small AVR or other microcontroller internally in a product like the PING))), but it's usually a component, not for customer access.