At 7/17/10 04:54 PM, Pure-Metal-UTA wrote:
Congratz to the winners, but I do have to say I'm kinda disappointed that the audio winners were all electronic-based.
Other than that, good work to everyone!

Me too, I was expecting Industrial, Glitch or Noise at least, oh well... Congratulations to the winners.

I would have to say this entire thing is rigged to hell, BigRamone's movie which outshines and blows everything else out of the water AND won daily feature of Robot Day 2010 did not win first place! It is the rightful winner afterall, what the heck is going on!!!

Are we robot or are we human? "Robot Day 2010" declared an inevitable investigation, and long behold, excellent work on many mediums (games, animation, art, writing, audio) tried to capture some wayward understanding (think my "Little Bots Attack" tried to sabotage, but the big bots deceived and won). So, with much appreciation for hosting something, anything... to do with robots (I love em, till they turn), big-time congrats to the winners (judging was interesting... personally I'd've picked others in each). Thanks for an idea turned devilishly real MindChamber. The submissions were fabulicious and beyond epic (whatta stronghold of artistic talent 'ere at Newgrounds man!). So, again, thanks to MindChamber, NGs, and all the crazy artists competing. A "toast" to the winners and losers... much deserved! Now to unplug that nagging bot inside... deep inside where nano-nano 01001001 resides...Mork friend?:)

Robot Day is over....
I was hoping to win but in the end I got nothing.... ($#!+ $#!+ $#!+) I really don't know how the judging was done but it sure sucks to be a loser...
Oh well... maximum effort, no results, wasted time.... Anyways, congrats to the winners.

At 7/17/10 12:33 PM, MindChamber wrote:
The amount of time a story took to make, or amount of words it took to create doesn't automaticly make it entaintaining.

I could name tons of million dollar blockbuster outshine by low budget films. Learn some sportsmanship.

I don't think Fro was commenting on the length or time invested, as we all know that longer flash animations, or those that may have taken years to make, aren't necessarily all that great. Where there are artists such as Luis who can spout top quality relatively rapidly.

The issue in this case is that most people have a set standard of quality when it comes to visual media because most people are inundated with it throughout their lives. In this situation, I agree with Fro in the sense that quality of the submissions were substandard in regard to those that placed. If the competition were meant for short, witty submissions, perhaps that should have been emphasized. Because there were no limits placed, writers took the liberty to expound on the story without any set expectations other than "there needs to be robots."

I will corroborate Fro's statement, and I will put my own experience and knowledge behind it. I'm sure others in the writing community will corroborate this. The quality of the submissions that won, from a writer's perspective, are sub-standard. Fro should have placed better, I agree.

For the future, it would be nice if writers were given a better set of criteria, because if all that was being sought was a cheap thrill, it should be made known. It's not fair to the writers who invested more thought into their work.

I understand this is a flash community, and writing expertise should not be expected, but I think if you support something (such as literature), it needs to be supported 100%. At the very least, in the future, make the requirements better known. For example, the MWC.

You do understand that no matter how well written a submission is,its worthless if it doesn't grab the reader. I found a lot of those other pieces to be unnecessarily wordy and pretentious. I also mentioned before that submissions should be written with flash animators in mind, no ones going to animate a 20 minute sketch between two characters and no change in scenery. You can't insult my ability to judge because you misunderstood the criteria.

Tell you what, next robot day Ill take two respected writers from the forums to help me judge the lit portion. All I ask is you and trevor try to refrain insulting the
winners, insulting my a ability to judge,harrass me on aim like Fro,and generally showing no kind of sportsmanship or class whatsoever. Let the winners enjoy this,and we'll work on making it better next time.

At 7/17/10 11:56 AM, TomFulp wrote:
The winners were selected by MindChamber with the exception of games because he didn't like any of them. He wanted more prizes to go to movies and art instead, so here are two more $30 movie prizes:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/54 1851

So was commercial music allowed in the end?

You are completely right, the prize will have to be revoked. Thanks for pointing it out.

try to refrain insulting my a ability to judge,harrass me on aim like Fro,and generally showing no kind of sportsmanship or class whatsoever.

yo, mc. fug u. this is the internet. get used to opinions you don't agree with. if you can't deal with some random kids opinions then why are you working for a website that deals with user submitted crap?

Let the winners enjoy this,

word.

:and we'll work on making it better next time.

wait wut? didn't you guys learn anything from how pissed your audio community got from the tank awards after tom hand picked the musician of he year winner? shut up man.

At 7/17/10 09:42 PM, MindChamber wrote:
You do understand that no matter how well written a submission is,its worthless if it doesn't grab the reader. I found a lot of those other pieces to be unnecessarily wordy and pretentious. I also mentioned before that submissions should be written with flash animators in mind, no ones going to animate a 20 minute sketch between two characters and no change in scenery. You can't insult my ability to judge because you misunderstood the criteria.

I don't mean to insult you, and I'm sorry you took offense. I was only making an observation. And to be clear, you advised scripts be designed with animators in mind. That qualifier alone, applied to all submissions, would be more than enough in the future.

Tell you what, next robot day Ill take two respected writers from the forums to help me judge the lit portion. All I ask is you and trevor try to refrain insulting the winners, insulting my a ability to judge,harrass me on aim like Fro,and generally showing no kind of sportsmanship or class whatsoever. Let the winners enjoy this,and we'll work on making it better next time.

That's all I really ask. And I'm just treating the winners like I would any other submission in the Writing forum. Perhaps I'm a harsh critique.

I'm not trying to harass you, nor am I trying to be a pest; for that matter, I appreciate you dignifying my post with a response. In the end, I'm simply making my opinion known as effectively as possible. Given your response, I can only get to work for next year's competition.

If any of the Lit Contest winners were offended by what I said, please approach me directly and I would be more than happy to justify my analysis with thorough and constructive critique. Please also see my comment as a reflection of your piece, and not you as a writer.

At 7/17/10 08:37 PM, Jess-The-Dragoon wrote:
Robot Day is over....
I was hoping to win but in the end I got nothing.... ($#!+ $#!+ $#!+) I really don't know how the judging was done but it sure sucks to be a loser...
Oh well... maximum effort, no results, wasted time.... Anyways, congrats to the winners.

well, ITYS. You were better off spending your time creating your own masterpiece, as planned... right? ITYS ITYS