So called "scientists" haven't provided one shred of evidence to support their climate change "theory". Until they come up with some hard facts I want to be able to opt out of any of my tax dollars going to the "environmental" boondoggles of this administration.

here to help:So called "scientists" haven't provided one shred of evidence to support their climate change "theory". Until they come up with some hard facts I want to be able to opt out of any of my tax dollars going to the "environmental" boondoggles of this administration.

here to help:So called "scientists" haven't provided one shred of evidence to support their climate change "theory". Until they come up with some hard facts I want to be able to opt out of any of my tax dollars going to the "environmental" boondoggles of this administration.

X-boxershorts:here to help: So called "scientists" haven't provided one shred of evidence to support their climate change "theory". Until they come up with some hard facts I want to be able to opt out of any of my tax dollars going to the "environmental" boondoggles of this administration.

I thought you were here to help

I most certainly am. How many Americans have lost their jobs over these failing policies? How much taxpayer money wasted?

Love how they had strike out the alarmist premature text. LOL that's some fine science! You know they only left the the text because WUWT documented their original report and found all the flaws. But go ahead and believe NASA wanted you to know they screwed up and had to rewrite the report.

here to help:X-boxershorts: here to help: So called "scientists" haven't provided one shred of evidence to support their climate change "theory". Until they come up with some hard facts I want to be able to opt out of any of my tax dollars going to the "environmental" boondoggles of this administration.

I thought you were here to help

I most certainly am. How many Americans have lost their jobs over these failing policies? How much taxpayer money wasted?

Wolf_Blitzer:here to help: So called "scientists" haven't provided one shred of evidence to support their climate change "theory". Until they come up with some hard facts I want to be able to opt out of any of my tax dollars going to the "environmental" boondoggles of this administration.

6/10, I especially appreciate the quotes around "theory".

Well that's all it is, isn't it? Even the scientists pushing this agenda the most still call it a theory. They can't prove it.

here to help:X-boxershorts: here to help: So called "scientists" haven't provided one shred of evidence to support their climate change "theory". Until they come up with some hard facts I want to be able to opt out of any of my tax dollars going to the "environmental" boondoggles of this administration.

I thought you were here to help

I most certainly am. How many Americans have lost their jobs over these failing policies? How much taxpayer money wasted?

How about we think about all the money Dubya wasted fighting a war over WMDs that did not exist and call it even.

X-boxershorts:here to help: X-boxershorts: here to help: So called "scientists" haven't provided one shred of evidence to support their climate change "theory". Until they come up with some hard facts I want to be able to opt out of any of my tax dollars going to the "environmental" boondoggles of this administration.

I thought you were here to help

I most certainly am. How many Americans have lost their jobs over these failing policies? How much taxpayer money wasted?

here to help:X-boxershorts: here to help: So called "scientists" haven't provided one shred of evidence to support their climate change "theory". Until they come up with some hard facts I want to be able to opt out of any of my tax dollars going to the "environmental" boondoggles of this administration.

I thought you were here to help

I most certainly am. How many Americans have lost their jobs over these failing policies? How much taxpayer money wasted?

As someone who doesn't typically read things like this, why does it include sentences that were struck through (wrong term I'm sure)? Shouldn't those have just been left out? It's like they published the red-lined version.

Meh...olde news is olde. The climate has been warming, the seas rising and the ice melting for twenty-thousand farking years. It's going to continue to do so for a while yet until it doesn't, and then Canada will disappear. Woohoo! ;^)

CruJones:As someone who doesn't typically read things like this, why does it include sentences that were struck through (wrong term I'm sure)? Shouldn't those have just been left out? It's like they published the red-lined version.

Because Anthony Watts discovered they were mistaken and they want to avoid Watts making them look dishonest.

here to help:X-boxershorts: here to help: X-boxershorts: here to help: So called "scientists" haven't provided one shred of evidence to support their climate change "theory". Until they come up with some hard facts I want to be able to opt out of any of my tax dollars going to the "environmental" boondoggles of this administration.

I thought you were here to help

I most certainly am. How many Americans have lost their jobs over these failing policies? How much taxpayer money wasted?

Do go on, I hope for clear spcifics

Why don't you ask some coal miners what they think?

What about otter scrubbers? Environmental policies mean fewer oil spills, which means fewer job opportunities for the guys who scrub oil off of otters. Why don't we ask THEM what they think?

/Granddad was a coal miner. Coal mining is the worst farking job in the universe, AND it's devastating the Southern Appalachians, where I grew up. Anything that decreases coal mining is a good thing.

here to help:X-boxershorts: here to help: X-boxershorts: here to help: So called "scientists" haven't provided one shred of evidence to support their climate change "theory". Until they come up with some hard facts I want to be able to opt out of any of my tax dollars going to the "environmental" boondoggles of this administration.

I thought you were here to help

I most certainly am. How many Americans have lost their jobs over these failing policies? How much taxpayer money wasted?

Do go on, I hope for clear spcifics

Why don't you ask some coal miners what they think?

About what? The explosion in natural gas (pun intended) usage that is driving "consumers" away from coal powered things?That policy? The one implemented by Cheney and Congress and enhanced again in 2005? That one that makes unconventional shale gas drilling exempt from EPA oversight essentially establishing natural gas as the preferred fossil fuel for America for the next few decades?

That Obama policy? (He does have a time machine after all)

Or did you mean the EPA policy that restores the 1996 restrictions on mercury emissions from coal fired power plants?

here to help:Wolf_Blitzer: here to help: So called "scientists" haven't provided one shred of evidence to support their climate change "theory". Until they come up with some hard facts I want to be able to opt out of any of my tax dollars going to the "environmental" boondoggles of this administration.

6/10, I especially appreciate the quotes around "theory".

Well that's all it is, isn't it? Even the scientists pushing this agenda the most still call it a theory. They can't prove it.

gravity is only a theory, too. pssh those fancy scientists and their book lernin! my ignorance is just as valid as their knowledge dagnabit! i'm a precious snowflake and what i believe, no matter how ignorant, should be taken as fact by everybody else!

while i'm at it, i'm going to write those uppity astronomers and tell them they're wrong and the world revolves around ME, not the sun! *grumble grumble*

Well, I didn't think I would have anything to do on this wet rainy Sunday.Now, I'll just fire up a few bowls of popcorn, and sit back and watch the clashof the pro & anti man made global warming posters have at it.

Is this one of those "It snowed so global warming is a lie" threads? Or did those folks finally notice that the increased energy content of the atmosphere has fueled some crazy strong storms in the past few years?

here to help:Wolf_Blitzer: here to help: So called "scientists" haven't provided one shred of evidence to support their climate change "theory". Until they come up with some hard facts I want to be able to opt out of any of my tax dollars going to the "environmental" boondoggles of this administration.

6/10, I especially appreciate the quotes around "theory".

Well that's all it is, isn't it? Even the scientists pushing this agenda the most still call it a theory. They can't prove it.

You don't know what a scientist means when he calls something "theory", do you? Here's a hint: its not a synonym for "guess".

Lookit... the earth's climate is in constant flux. The temperature rises and cools all the time. It is a natural cycle. If you think our species is capable of having any significant impact on this planet which has survived thousands of years of these peaks and valleys you are an egotist and know nothing about the true nature of science.

The old adage, "it's too cold to snow", has some truth to it, and there is research supporting the idea that the average climate in the U.S. is colder than optimal to support the heaviest snowstorms. For example, Changnon et al. (2006) found that for the contiguous U.S. between 1900 - 2001, 61% - 80% of all heavy snowstorms of 6+ inches occurred during winters with above normal temperatures. The authors also found that 61% - 85% of all heavy snowstorms of 6+ inches occurred during winters that were wetter than average. The authors conclude, "a future with wetter and warmer winters, which is one outcome expected (National Assessment Synthesis Team 2001), will bring more heavy snowstorms of 6+ inches than in 1901 - 2000." The authors found that over the U.S. as a whole, there had been a slight but significant increase in heavy snowstorms of 6+ inches than in 1901 - 2000. If the climate continues to warm, we should expect an increase in heavy snow events for a few decades, until the climate grows so warm that we pass the point where winter temperatures are at the optimum for heavy snow events.

here to help:Lookit... the earth's climate is in constant flux. The temperature rises and cools all the time. It is a natural cycle. If you think our species is capable of having any significant impact on this planet which has survived thousands of years of these peaks and valleys you are an egotist and know nothing about the true nature of science.

The primary control on Earth's climate over geological time scales is the concentration of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. The concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is up 40% from pre-industrial levels and increasing rapidly, an effect that can be directly traced to fossil fuel burning due to the change in isotopic composition of the CO2. If you are incapable of accepting these facts you are willfully anti-science and anti-reality.

While I think global warming is a crock of shiat, lets examine some of the good that is coming from greener energy and if it isn't a crock what we could see as positives.

Cleaner cities, fewer chemicals (if done properly), less expensive gas (it is high now, think about how much higher if we didn't have more fuel efficient vehicles), economic resurgent, green buildings and fewer items winding up in land fills.

here to help:Lookit... the earth's climate is in constant flux. The temperature rises and cools all the time. It is a natural cycle. If you think our species is capable of having any significant impact on this planet which has survived thousands of years of these peaks and valleys you are an egotist and know nothing about the true nature of science.

Oh man, that was a good one.

I wasn't sure whether he was a troll or not until he crafted this "thousands of years" response.

I've always disliked that cartoon. It has always reminded me of the types of things religious groups push. "Why not follow our commandments, even if we are wrong at least you still lived a moral life."

I've always disliked that cartoon. It has always reminded me of the types of things religious groups push. "Why not follow our commandments, even if we are wrong at least you still lived a moral life."

here to help:Lookit... the earth's climate is in constant flux. The temperature rises and cools all the time. It is a natural cycle. If you think our species is capable of having any significant impact on this planet which has survived thousands of years of these peaks and valleys you are an egotist and know nothing about the true nature of science.

KCCO:I've always disliked that cartoon. It has always reminded me of the types of things religious groups push. "Why not follow our commandments, even if we are wrong at least you still lived a moral life."

Live in Beijing for a while, then tell me again how the two are similar.