I have read that cyp "can" cause more retention due to the longer ester, but it is so small a diff in esters that I think it is a person to person thing....some say Enan you hold less, some say Cyp you hold less...

About the same bro, some may argue, because I think cyp may be a slightly longer ester but its nothing to write home about.I have used both and retention is the same. Either way, run some arimidex or femera and you will be fine. If you want less bloat, pick up Test Prop, shoot ed or eod. Prop rules!

About the same bro, some may argue, because I think cyp may be a slightly longer ester but its nothing to write home about.I have used both and retention is the same. Either way, run some arimidex or femera and you will be fine. If you want less bloat, pick up Test Prop, shoot ed or eod. Prop rules!

I hear Prop does rule,..i hear many people cant stand the pain as well.

About the same bro, some may argue, because I think cyp may be a slightly longer ester but its nothing to write home about.I have used both and retention is the same. Either way, run some arimidex or femera and you will be fine. If you want less bloat, pick up Test Prop, shoot ed or eod. Prop rules!

[/QUOTE]I hear Prop does rule,..i hear many people cant stand the pain as well.[QUOTE]
i get sick of always hearing that prop hurts... yeah it does (sometimes it hurts like a beyotch) but its just part of the game so sack the **** up and get through it.

I hear Prop does rule,..i hear many people cant stand the pain as well.

i get sick of always hearing that prop hurts... yeah it does (sometimes it hurts like a beyotch) but its just part of the game so sack the **** up and get through it.

i was placing a order the other day and my guy was like,..."Man are you sure you want Prop,..I have had 3 guys call me today and say they continue taking it because of the pain,..id think twice about it since this will be your first time using it"..I mean how much more than enant.can it hurt?

I hear Prop does rule,..i hear many people cant stand the pain as well

I homebrew my prop & it doesnt hurt even 1% - I even have trouble remebering where I shot it the day after - I'll occasionally get a small knot in my muscle, but other than that - goes in like butta :-)

As for pharm stuff - I hear viromone is basically painless & I've used testopin (BM) a few times & thats pretty much painless too.

QV winny hurts me 2x more than than prop. I could never put winny in my delt cause my arm would be stuck at my side for days. The key is to inject very slow. like 1-2 minutes for even 1 cc then massage hard for 3-4 minutes. I cant stress that enough. its like night and day difference!!!

I hear Prop does rule,..i hear many people cant stand the pain as well.
i was placing a order the other day and my guy was like,..."Man are you sure you want Prop,..I have had 3 guys call me today and say they continue taking it because of the pain,..id think twice about it since this will be your first time using it"..I mean how much more than enant.can it hurt?

Just try some suspension! Prop never hurts me, I make my own, I dont use much BA. Some people get over the pain in like a weak though.
MAke your own ad use ehtyl oleate, I guess its painless. I know ppl has some(if your rich =) )

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