National crisis averted: House to vote on pork-filled Sandy relief bill by January 15, Peter King to support Boehner for Speaker

posted at 4:51 pm on January 2, 2013 by Allahpundit

An anxious America waits and wonders: Can New York and New Jersey hang on for two more weeks?

U.S. House Speaker John Boehner has assured lawmakers that the House will vote on $60 billion in aid related to Superstorm Sandy by January 15, a group of lawmakers from New York and New Jersey told reporters Wednesday afternoon…

The lawmakers met with Boehner Wednesday afternoon and then made the announcement.

“As far as I’m concerned … it was an extremely positive” meeting, said U.S. Rep. Peter King, R-New York, who earlier Wednesday called Boehner’s Tuesday move a “knife in the back.”

The plan is to vote Friday for $9 billion in aid and then deal with the remaining $51 billion on the 15th. The fact that they’re still talking about a $60 billion package means, presumably, that they’re going to cave and keep all or most of the porky Senate bill rather than strip out the expenditures unrelated to Sandy and vote on a “clean” bill. Taxpayers have to pay the price for poor “optics” here, I guess: If they pass a $30 billion bill instead, the next narrative will be “GOP guts Sandy bill,” possibly replete with another grandstanding Chris Christie press conference. Can’t have that. Better pass it all.

In the span of about six hours, the guy went from accusing Boehner of sticking a knife in New York’s back for slightly delaying a bill that’s destined to pass to supporting him as de facto leader of the GOP for another two years. At least when Christie affects outrage for political gain, he keeps up the charade for a day or two.

Speaking of which, enjoy as the media hero and future No Labels candidate sounds off. Do note that the video below comes from his own press team. And not only are they circulating the full clip, they’re sending around a smaller clip in which he dumps on Congress just to make sure no one misses the political point of all this.

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I am not going to support such an effort if it doesn’t include a lot of structural thinking behind it to deal with Communist Infiltrators….. A lot of thought has to take place with the structure of such a party on the Middle School/High School/College level.

The Republican party is completely broken when it comes to K-12 and the Universities in that they don’t want there to be individuality…Instead they have an Apparatus hovering above each College Republican group and generate a bunch of extra pointless political crap…Taking time away from dealing with on-campus issues.

I could go on and on. Bottom line. I can’t support a effort to build a new Political Party unless some real smart, intelligent, people get together and hammer out some key details.

Never understood why they haven’t done this… or maybe they’ve tried but are just that ineffective. The Libertarian party is ideally built for a college-campus push.

I’m not even talking about legalizing pot either, the one superficial way they even approach the youth. I mean the philosophy that they fail to discuss once they’ve lured in the stoners. Consider the 18-24 year old demographic that have just come out from under their father’s home and rules and are now exploring their own opportunities under society’s rules. That new independence is a wonderful part of becoming an adult, and beyond the usual talks everybody gives about personal responsibility the Libertarian Party is ideally positioned to talk about the freedom that comes with it. Tell these kids about how government wants to structure their lives, and that they didn’t move away from home just to have a new D.C. nanny to take their parents’ place.

Then of course, once they’ve come to understand the philosophy as to why government has no business telling them what to do, make very sure they also understand that also means we aren’t here to bail them out when they screw up. If they have any sense and understand what they’ve been told, they’ll say fair enough. If they don’t, we’re too far gone for it to matter anyway. At best that’s 50/50 but it’s worth a try.

I realise that Romney was not the first choice (or even top 5 choice) of HA, except for Ed & AP (I think) and a few others.

Resist We Much on January 2, 2013 at 7:22 PM

Ed was for T-Paw, AP was for Mitch Daniels, and the commenters were for Sarah Palin. Romney won by having a lot of money and using to his advantage that the right-of-center media will not say anything bad about a politician if they have an R by their name.

The latest near-final tally has Romney with 60.6 million votes, which is higher than McCain’s 59.9 million votes. That’s the good news. The bad news: It’s not a lot higher than McCain’s total, and certainly not high enough to have overtaken Barack Obama. In fact, Romney’s total is only about 1 percent higher than McCain’s.

Who among us would have predicted that? Republicans expected far more votes for Mitt Romney in 2012 than McCain got in 2008. Sorry, didn’t happen.[/quote]LOL. That’s called…”underperforming”.

Pork laden fiscal cliff bill.
Pork laden Sandy bill.
Does anyone feel like screaming!?!
Hold your breath, it won’t do any good. No one is listening.
9 billion to Sandy bad enough. What happened to FEMA? But an additional 51 billion for pork when taxpayers are going to be buried in taxes & debt. An outrage that’s being buried.

The latest near-final tally has Romney with 60.6 million votes, which is higher than McCain’s 59.9 million votes. That’s the good news. The bad news: It’s not a lot higher than McCain’s total, and certainly not high enough to have overtaken Barack Obama. In fact, Romney’s total is only about 1 percent higher than McCain’s.

Who among us would have predicted that? Republicans expected far more votes for Mitt Romney in 2012 than McCain got in 2008. Sorry, didn’t happen.

Does anyone have a list of all of the pork in the bill, one that ties the pork to specific names? Unless we publish this info the public will know nothing other than “evil racist Republicans hate New York.”

Yeah, who didn’t see this coming. First we hear that Boehnhead was killing the pork-laden Sandy bill and King goes bonkers. Then all the grumbling about Boehnhead’s ousting. Then, SHAZAAM! all of sudden, the bill’s alive again and going to be voted on…next, oh of course King supports Boehnhead for Speaker.

All of this reminds me of the back room bribes that went on to get ObamaTax rammed up our butts.

Nice job there Repubes, you’re really winning over a lot of new supporters huh? Eff it, let it all burn. I like s’mores by the fire.

Those guys ca stuff it.
I remember hearing that a third party vote would be a vote for Obama.
Really now?
A vote for a republican is a vote for big government.
A vote for a demon-crat is a vote for bigger government.
Both parties lead us down the same sewer, one is just a bit slower going about it.

Those guys can stuff it.
I remember hearing that a third party vote would be a vote for Obama.
Really now?
A vote for a republican is a vote for big government.
A vote for a demon-crat is a vote for bigger government.
Both parties lead us down the same sewer, one is just a bit slower going about it.

That new independence is a wonderful part of becoming an adult, and beyond the usual talks everybody gives about personal responsibility the Libertarian Party is ideally positioned to talk about the freedom that comes with it. Tell these kids about how government wants to structure their lives, and that they didn’t move away from home just to have a new D.C. nanny to take their parents’ place.

Gingotts on January 2, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Your argument breaks down because the 18-24 year olds want the “freedom” but need mom & dad’s checkbook. In this case the checkbook is supplied by the democrat party.

Most of these “yoots” never get to your step two (at least not while they’re still “yoots”) …

Then of course, once they’ve come to understand the philosophy as to why government has no business telling them what to do, make very sure they also understand that also means we aren’t here to bail them out when they screw up.

because they are willing to surrender a bit of freedom for the (supposed) guarantee of support. As proof I offer you this example of the college student who got a restraining order against her parents but still wanted them to pay her tuition. She ended up with a full scholarship from the school (a/k/a the taxpayers?) after her “ordeal”

Dems are particularly good at convincing this demographic that they’ll get all kinds of freedom without responsibility and they fall for it 9 out of 10 times. After all, it would be just like their current college life, so why can’t it be possible?

The House / GOP are getting hammered over NOT passing this thing…Over 1/2 of the money in this bill goes to Pork, packed into the Bill by Democrats in the Senate….

The House GOP Members need to – either on the floor of the House or in a Press Conference – READ EVERY BIT OF PORK IN THE BILL, EXPOSING THE AUTHORS PUBLICLY, & CONDEMN THEM FOR ATTEMPTING TO PERSONALLY/POLITICALLY BENEFIT FROM THE MISERY/SUFFERING OF OTHERS!

EMBARRASS THE H@LL OUT OF THEM….THEN STRIP ALL OF IT OUT OF THE BILL, PASS IT, & SEND IT BACK TO THE SENATE, DEMANDING THEY PASS IT IMMEDIATELY.

Pappy, it says a LOT about YOU that you are ‘celebrating’ the un-earned political condemnation of representatives who oppose what the unethical, immoral Democrats are doing, which is pathetically attempting to take advantage of Americans who are suffering. Like LEECHES or other PARASITES, Democrats are feeding off the victims of Sandy for personal/political gain.

Filling the bill full of pork to the point where there is more money in the bill going to Special Interest Groups & Special personal/political projects than going to the victims waiting for help then blaming the GOP for not swallowing this poison pill is nothing more than a pathetic political game being played by pathetic immoral men/women who would sell their own mothers if it meant personal/political gain for themselves.

When is the last time any of these politicians actually did something…passed a bill…that contained ONLY what the bill addressed rather than pumping them full of pork?

Sure, pass the whole pork filled bill just for the optics. It’s not like we don’t have the dough. Boner must need every speaker vote he can scrape up. The fattest clown in the circus has now gotten his face on TV once more. Ann must be so proud.

Oh and for those who think a new political party can’t rise up and replace the Republican Party.

It can if done the right way.

The way the Libertarian Party functions is completely broken.
It is a joke.

How many times has the Libertarian Party ever reached out to
K-12 students? Or even the students that are Senior High School and 18 years old?

In my experience… ZERO!!!!

You create a party not from the Top down…. You do it from the bottom up. Why? Cause that is how you generate a movement.

It starts with the earliest generation and grows from there.

Varchild on January 2, 2013 at 8:46 PM

I agree with ya. And if I were in charge of the Libertarian Party, the first thing I would do is hit the schools hard, and actively court the students, saying stuff like “fiscal responsibility is priority one” and “we’re not socially backwards like the other guys”. I’d also put together a hip, flashy media campaign, not to mention have everyone decide on an animal mascot (because we definitely need a presence in political cartoons as well).

Third parties can gain a foothold if you make some noise in the right places, if you ask me.

The House / GOP are getting hammered over NOT passing this thing…Over 1/2 of the money in this bill goes to Pork, packed into the Bill by Democrats in the Senate….

The House GOP Members need to – either on the floor of the House or in a Press Conference – READ EVERY BIT OF PORK IN THE BILL, EXPOSING THE AUTHORS PUBLICLY, & CONDEMN THEM FOR ATTEMPTING TO PERSONALLY/POLITICALLY BENEFIT FROM THE MISERY/SUFFERING OF OTHERS!

EMBARRASS THE H@LL OUT OF THEM….THEN STRIP ALL OF IT OUT OF THE BILL, PASS IT, & SEND IT BACK TO THE SENATE, DEMANDING THEY PASS IT IMMEDIATELY.

easyt65 on January 3, 2013 at 8:17 AM

That would require effort. And it might make the Democrats mad and wouldn’t be very bipartisan of Boehner. He could be called a bad name, like racist or something, from the media. They might even say he’s being pushed around by the TEA party. Can’t have that. So we’ll just do what the Democrats want all the way. And we’ll ignore every ounce of their hypocrisy and corruption because we want them to like us and call us friend and reasonable and invite us to play golf. And if the country plunges over a cliff and sinks 100 miles into a deep black pit… well… we won’t think about that right now and if someone brings it up we’ll call them extremists. Besides.. there’s no time for all that bickering…we have a pretty game Obama said he wants to play with us at a friendship party he invited us to.. it’s a blindfold game. We put the blindfold on and he leads us somewhere nice. It’ll be fun! Join in!

Because that’s why we all vote Republican. To support Democrat ideas. We joined the Republican party because we wanted to belong to a party that supported the Democrat party. It all makes sense if you put this blindfold on and think pretty happy thoughts.

Ed was for T-Paw, AP was for Mitch Daniels, and the commenters were for Sarah Palin. Romney won by having a lot of money and using to his advantage that the right-of-center media will not say anything bad about a politician if they have an R by their name.

I am not going to support such an effort if it doesn’t include a lot of structural thinking behind it to deal with Communist Infiltrators…..

Varchild on January 2, 2013 at 8:40 PM

The conservatives need to splinter into a new party and offer the Republicans a no-compete option or a total war option. The no-compete option would state something like the new party will have a primary in all contests and then a primary with the Republican candidate and the winner runs against the Democrat candidate without any interference from the other. The total war option means we direct all energy into destroying the Republican Party and replacing them and that pretty much ensures years of Democrat monopoly on power. That is still much more preferable than letting the slow boil continue. Democrats can’t even do things like raise taxes or consider amnesty when they have complete control. It’s the presence of a modicum of Republican power at the same time as mostly-Democrat rule that is the recipe for disaster.

At this point … the way you start a new CONSERVATIVE party is to concentrate on the representatives and senators from the Southern States. They wouldn’t have to leave the GOP yet – just form an independent caucus and elect a leader. They would pull ALL support from the SoTH and would not be beholden to him.

From this position – they then become the most important caucus in the Capitol. They can interfere and stop almost anything unless the Liberal Republicans ban with the Democrats – but that’s okay, let them do that. We WANT to equate Liberal GOP with the Dimmocritic party.

When they stop legislation – they’ll be blamed for it – but who cares? The people (of the South) who elected them will stand by them. In fact, a lot of us former GOP’ers here in the South have already pulled ALL of our support from the GOP because of it’s lies and leftist mentality. I’d readily join back in and support those guys who announced a split from the General GOP caucus.

The rest of the (liberal parts of) the nation – will blame the South. This will only result in Southern Conservatives “digging into” their positions.

This will require independent PACs for the new caucus and it prolly means setting up it’s own version of the “RNC” since the RNC will certainly pull all support from this caucus.

The net result – a new party will come into being. Once the infrastructure has been created, they can formally split.

Fun to see them twisting in the wind after their buddy Obama blew off his campaign promises of “no red tape” and has shut down Federal Flood Insurance payments to the region. Suckers. Maybe they should be screaming at the corrupt scum who larded up a $10 billion emergency relief bill with $50 billion of pork.

Interesting choice Christie made. He could have reamed out Reid and the Democrat senate for exploiting Sandy’s victims, but instead he chose to dump on the Republican House. Says a lot about his character. None of it good.

Ed was for T-Paw, AP was for Mitch Daniels, and the commenters were for Sarah Palin. Romney won by having a lot of money and using to his advantage that the right-of-center media will not say anything bad about a politician if they have an R by their name.

sauldalinsky on January 2, 2013 at 9:28 PM

Provided of course that politician with an “R” beside her name doesn’t happen to have the surname “Pailn” that is. If they do, then its A-OK to push false Liberal memes against her… Or at least let them stand unchallenged.

I remember the days of the outrage from the Right when Sarah Palin dared to defend herself against charges of inciting murder based on nothing but Liberal wishful thinking.