Gary Numan Digest Sun, 10 Dec 2000 Volume 2 : Issue 98
Today's Topics:
an automatic 'automatic'
Brief interview - Rollingstone.com
Dear Santa!
First definite sale
Gary Numan Digest V2 #97 (2 msgs)
Mallory Heart (2 msgs)
My Mallory Heart
numanization of words as sounds
Remixes
Sharpe and Numan
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Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 15:33:48 -0600
From: Val & Ben Iglar-Mobley
Subject: an automatic 'automatic'
To: The Gary Digest
> 2) Does anyone know where I can get hold of a CD version of the Sharpe
> and Numan 80's atrocity 'Automatic'? I love the song Breathe in
> emotion.
Well, Mark, I think it's pretty much long out of print so I can't point
you toward any music stores. You might be fortunate enough to find a
kind-hearted numanoid who may have an extra copy she or he'd be willing
to part with (which is how I lucked into my own copy, thanks to the
generous largesse of Mr. Dale Seaton, who sent me a copy all the way
from New Zealand!). I know of such a one.
I mentioned him a few Digests ago, but let me give him another plug
again since the question has come up. I've had some contact with a guy
who has made it a hobby to collect out-of-print items from 80s New Wave
artists to make them available on recordable cd copies. His name is Wes
Holley and he's at mailto:romoboy@midsouth.rr.com. Along with the
instrumental 'Human' album and a set of 'The Pleasure Principle' demo
recordings and now 'The Radial Pair' / Hugh Nicholson collaboration
double-coupon, one of the Gary titles he has is 'Automatic,' and I think
he even has the extended versions of "Change Your Mind" and the b-side
"Love Like A Ghost" as bonus tracks on his CDR of it. If you write to
him about it, you might ask him about those extras, I'm not sure. He
does charge $12.50 plus postage for the copies he makes to cover his
expenses, so you ought to know that.
The reason I've been mentioning him here is because I believe in the
idea. I don't have a cd burner myself, so I can't make disc copies for
other collectors, but as a collector myself I know what it's like to
feel frustrated trying to locate a copy of something out of print. If I
had a burner, I'd be doing exactly what Wes is doing: making copies of
out-of-print items available for other collectors. I know it's a
controversial question about copyrights, but my thinking is that if it's
no longer commercially available then nobody is losing a sale. Selling
the same item on eBay for an inflated amount of money is completely
legal, in contrast, but the artists get nothing more out of it than they
would from sharing a cd copy. This way a collector doesn't have to
cough up as much.
About that particular album, I was horrified by the music when I first
heard it, but now I love it. True, true, true, it's nothing like any of
his other albums, but it's still electronic, and the lyrics are as Gary
as any other. I think "Nightlife" is terrific. I'm not sure I'd want
Gary to collaborate with Bill Sharpe on a regular basis, but I love
having that album in my collection. It's just part of the grand Numan
experience.
love, like a ghost,
Ben
http://home.earthlink.net/~iglarmobley
* * *
"Looking through windows at a friend of mine
She's like a knife in my heart
But you can get used to anything"
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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 18:57:11 -0600
From: "Craig Stenseth"
Subject: Brief interview - Rollingstone.com
To: "Gary Numan"
This should work...
http://entertainment.msn.com/music/features/feature1.asp
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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 20:46:47 -0500
From: "Cary Wiltz"
Subject: Dear Santa!
To: "Albert" ,
Deer Santa,
I wud like a kool toy space ranjur fer Xmas. Iv ben a gud boy all yeer.
Yer Frend,
BiLLy
Dear Billy,
Nice spelling. You're on your way to a career in lawn care. How about I send
you a book so you can learn to read and write? I'm giving your older brother
the space ranger. At least HE can spell!
Santa
Dear Santa,
I have been a good girl all year, and the only thing I ask for is peace and
joy in the world for everybody!
Love,
Sarah
Dear Sarah,
You're parents smoked pot when they had you, didn't they?
Santa
Dear Santa,
I don't know if you can do this, but for Christmas, I'd like for my mommy
and
daddy to get back together. Please see what you can do.
Love,
Teddy
Dear Teddy,
Look, your dad's banging the babysitter like a screen door in a hurricane.
Do you think he's gonna give that up to come back to your frigid mom, who
rides his ass constantly? It's time to give up that dream. Let me get you
some nice Legos instead.
Santa
Dear Santa,
I want a new bike, a Playstation, a train, some G.I. Joes, a dog, a drum
kit,
a pony and a tuba.
Love,
Francis
Dear Francis,
Who names their kid "Francis" nowadays? I bet you're gay.
Santa
Dear Santa,
I left milk and cookies for you under the tree, and I left carrots for your
reindeer outside the back door.
Love,
Susan
Dear Susan,
Milk gives me the runs and carrots make the deer fart in my face when riding
in the sleigh. You want to do me a favor? Leave me a bottle of scotch.
Santa
Dear Santa,
What do you do the other 364 days of the year? Are you busy making toys?
Your friend,
Thomas
Dear Thomas,
All the toys are made in China. I have a condo in Vegas, where I spend most
of my time making low-budget porno films. I unwind by drinking myself silly
and squeezing the asses of cocktail waitresses while losing money at the
craps table. Hey,you wanted to know.
Santa
Dear Santa,
Do you see us when we're sleeping, do you really know when we're awake,
like
in the song?
Love,
Jessica
Dear Jessica,
Are you really that gullible? Good luck in whatever you do. I'm skipping
your house.
Santa
Dear Santa,
I really really want a puppy this year. Please please please PLEASE PLEASE
could I have one?
Timmy
Timmy,
That whiney begging shit may work with your folks, but that crap doesn't
work with me. You're getting a sweater again.
Santa
Dearest Santa,
We don't have a chimney in our house, how do you get into our house?
Love,
Marky
Mark,
First, stop calling yourself "Marky", that's why you're getting your ass
whipped at school. Second, you don't live in a house, you live in a
low-rent
apartment complex. Third, I get inside your pad just like all the burglars
do, through your bedroom window.
Sweet Dreams,
Santa
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Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 19:45:01 +0000 (GMT)
From: VinceH
Subject: First definite sale
To: Gary Numan
On 03 Dec, wrote:
> They also need to be able to
> find it in the shops! I have never seen
> more than one copy at a time, and usually
> none! Mind you, I console myself that
> all these thousands of CDs on the racks
> are the ones they HAVEN'T been able to
> sell!!!!
I was impressed by HMV in Bristol - on the
day of release they had Pure on one of their
CD display things just as you walked in.
Lots of copies, in a prime position. Nice.
VinceH
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 18:33:01 EST
From: Numaniac@aol.com
Subject: Gary Numan Digest V2 #97
To: digest@garynumanfan.nu
In a message dated 12/7/00 3:36:35 AM Pacific Standard Time,
digest@garynumanfan.nu writes:
<< Pure - a couple of thoughts >>
in response to craigs question; "There's a song called 'Rip', and a song
called 'Torn' ? ? ?"
who gives a shit, they're good songs.
John
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Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 00:09:09 -0700
From: Three Letter Acronym
Subject: Gary Numan Digest V2 #97
To: Gary Numan
> Hi Mark--
"Mallory" is (maybe "was") a brand of battery, like Eveready, Ray-O-Vac, Duracell, etc. Not a reference whatsoever to the older sister in "Family Ties." :-)
--Harold
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:25:32 -0000
From: Julian Seifert
Subject: Mallory Heart
To: "'info@spiresoftware.co.uk'"
In answer to that particular question, Numan is simply implying that his
heart is a Battery. (i.e.. a Mallory Cell)
Ok?
Jules
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 17:34:05 -0000
From: "MARK SAUNDERS"
Subject: Mallory heart
To: "Gary Numan"
Mark,
I'm pretty sure the "Mallory" heart refers to the Mallory brand of battery.
I think they were an old British battery manufacturer. I'm not sure whether
the company's actually still producing batteries or still around, even (?).
So, basically, I suppose it means "My battery heart is sure to fail".
Mark S.
>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 21:07:10 -0000
>From: "Info (Spire Software)"
>Subject: Sharpe and Numan
>To: "Gary Numan"
>
>1) The lyrics to Metal, what the hell is Mallory? as in 'My Mallory heart
is
>sure to fail.' Any ideas
>
>Cheers
>
>Mark
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:48:17 -0000
From: "David Dalton"
Subject: My Mallory Heart
To: "Numan Digest"
Hello everybody,
In response to Mark's first question, the "Mallory" in the line "My Mallory
heart is sure to fail" refers to a brand of torch battery. In other words,
the android of the song has an electrically powered heart.
Regards to all,
Dave
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Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 22:33:34 -0800
From: alecw
Subject: numanization of words as sounds
To: digest@GaryNumanFan.NU
i like it when we talk about lyrics.
gary numan is a unique kind of "word doctor." his words are almost
medicinal for me. gary numan uses words that sound like green tea
tastes--powerful, bitter, healing.
he's a shaman with his lyrics. i consider him up there in a style that
includes yoko ono, john lennon, james joyce, johnny rotten, bob dylan,
syd barrett, nikolai gogol, thomas de quincey, william burroughs,
aleister crowley, r.d. laing, john foxx. re:- gary numan's choice of
words in his lyrics. those words are, in a way, very much a part of the
poetic traditions of the uk in particular and really the whole world in
general. evidence of this is exhibited in the rhythms and sounds made in
pre-norman anglo saxon poetry, where the sounds that the words made and
the various chain reactions certain word/sounds made in various
combinations were used to evoke or conjure certain moods, emotions and
beyond. often this writing style values an overall sound ambience over
all else.
gary is within this kind of poetic tradition, which, coming as it does
from before written language as we know it, was full of code and
abstraction. he writes in hieroglyphs or snapshots. certain phrases
could be full of meaning to one half of the audience while the rest
wouldn't get the inner meaning or even the in-jokes.
i like the way he's been stripping away the narrative and tit-for-tat
rhyming. people who i've introduced numan to have commented that they
like how he isn't hung up on rhyming.
at the other end of it, gary's reconstructed english is sort of an
easier-to-read version of william burroughs.
i think that at this point, he's boiled everything he's done before to a
few favorite phrases that he pulls out every now and then. when he
pulls out a classic phrase, whether it's "you are," "i suppose," "you"
(pronounced "youw") or "woah-oh," whatever he's singing about becomes
"numanized." there are few people who have so many lyrics that are so
satisfying to sing or shout along to.
alec (thinking about the black spires and the sidewalks near the dakota
building, new york)
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Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:30:56 -0500
From: Matthew Roberts
Subject: Remixes
To: Gary Numan
NuWorld has announced that Listen To My Voice and A Prayer For The Unborn=
are to be remixed by Andy Gray.
I have mixed feelings about re-mixes. However, Andy Gray is a big name an=
d
this should be great publicity. It should also be the best chance of havi=
ng
a Gary Numan hit single - think of Brimful of Asha and It's Like That.
Gary has also said that he will try and write a new song or two for a
digi-pack release of Pure next February, although it must be doubtful tha=
t
he will manage it.
Matthew Roberts
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 14:10:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Ronald Cole
Subject: Sharpe and Numan
To: digest@garynumanfan.nu (Gary Numan)
"Info (Spire Software)" writes:
>1) The lyrics to Metal, what the hell is Mallory? as in 'My Mallory heart is
>sure to fail.' Any ideas?
Mallory was a battery brand.
--
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