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Thread : Calling all Evil Bastards, a parallel game
Started at Aug 18 '12 8:02am by steampunkadept
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[Post 1]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 18 '12 8:02am
Thread Title : Calling all Evil Bastards, a parallel game
This is a campaign that I will be running parallel to another in this same world. Events in the other game will translate directly into the events of this game, and eventually the two games will meld into one.
Troublesome times draw strange companions together. Though you may not like, nor much care for those around you, fate requires that you work together for the sake of your own personal ambitions. Rumors abound that King Baigan Phyr has summoned together a band of adventurers to discover the secrets of the Orb of the Blood Star. You know that the ancient red orb contains powerful, ancient magic. Magic enough that any of your dreams could easily come true.
However, the Orb of the Blood Star is well guarded within the Twin City of Phyr'Tolar. Plans have already been enacted to steal the Orb away from King Phyr. When that time of chaos comes, it will be left to you to get in, steal the Orb of the Blood Star, and return it to your dark masters. Only then can you begin to discover the secrets of the Orb for yourself, and unlock the power contained within.
Cross-posted from application thread
Character Generation
Levels: All characters start at level 5
Races and Level Adjustments: Each character gets up to 1 free level adjustment buy off. For example, Tieflings are a +1 LA race. You no longer count that level adjustment, and make the character as if it wasn't there. Absolutely NO Dragonkin and NO classes that have any basis on dragonkind.
Abilities: 4d6^3r1, No Point Buy for unhappy rolls, Reroll if Sum of Mods is +2 or less, or if there are no scores are 16 or above.
Alignment: Absolutely no Good alignments and no Chaotic Stupid. If you must play Chaotic Neutral, please do so within reason.
Hit Points: Max + Con for first 2 levels, then roll as normal for every level beyond, No rerolls for HP. If you roll a 1, you roll a 1
Starting Wealth: 10,000gc. No item may cost more than 4000gc. In addition, Once the campaign starts, I will roll each character a random magic item, to portray treasure gained from adventuring prior to this campaign. The random Magic Item may be kept, or sold at 50% listed value.
Flaws & Traits: No voluntary flaws or traits, one mandatory flaw randomly chosen. You do not get a feat for this random flaw unless you roll such on the chart below.
1) Player's Choice
2) DM's Choice and gain +1 bonus feat.
3) Feeble (UA)
4) Frail (UA)
5) Inattentive (UA)
6) Meager Fortitude (UA)
7) Murky Eyed (UA)
8) Noncombatant (UA)
9) Pathetic (UA)
10) Poor Reflex (UA)
11) Shaky (UA)
12) Slow (UA)
13) Unreactive (UA)
14) Vulnerable (UA)
15) -2 on full round or longer skill checks, -2 on concentration (total of -4 if concentrating for more then a round)
16) -2 on Charisma based skill checks.
17) -4 on swim checks, and must succeed on a will save DC 14 (+1 per 5 feet depth) to enter a body of water.
18) Binge Drinker (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Binge_Drinker_(3.5e_Flaw))
19) Compulsive Gambler (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Compulsive_Gambler_(3.5e_Flaw))
20) Corruption (Bad Luck) (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Corruption_(3.5e_Flaw))
21) Coward (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Coward_(3.5e_Flaw))
22) Daredevil (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Daredevil_(3.5e_Flaw))
23) Depression (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Depressed_(3.5e_Flaw))
24) Greedy (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Greedy_(3.5e_Flaw)) (Most people RP as if they had this lol)
25) Gullible (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Gullible_(3.5e_Flaw))
26) Hemophelia (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Haemophilia_(3.5e_Flaw))
27) Haphephobia (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Haphephobia_(3.5e_Flaw))
28) Hemophobia (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Hemophobia_(3.5e_Flaw))
29) High Metabolism (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/High_Metabolism_(3.5e_Flaw))
30) Horrible Luck (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Horrible_Luck_(3.5e_Flaw)) (I'll make it only first 1 or 2, character dependant)
31) Lacks Confidence (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Jumps_to_Conclusions_(3.5e_Flaw)) (DC Will 14 +1 per failed attempts, includes attacks)
32) Jumpy (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Jumpy_(3.5e_Flaw)) (Combat bit doesn't apply)
33) Kleptomaniac (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Kleptomania_(3.5e_Flaw))
34) Lalophobia (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Lalophobia_(3.5e_Flaw))
35) Catch Phrase (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Large_Ham_(3.5e_Flaw))
36) Lazy (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Lazy_(3.5e_Flaw)) (or -2 on all three abilities)
37) Merciful (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Merciful_(3.5e_Flaw))
38) Misanthrope (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Misanthrope_(3.5e_Flaw))
39) Naive (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Naive_(3.5e_Flaw))
40) Narcissistic (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Narcissistic_(3.5e_Flaw))
41) OCD (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Obsessive_Compulsive_(3.5e_Flaw))
42) Overconfident (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Overconfident_(3.5e_Flaw))
43) Racist (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Racist_(3.5e_Flaw)) (Charisma Based Skills + Sense Motive, not just diplomacy)
44) Stutter (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Stutter_(3.5e_Flaw)) (No short sentences bit)
45) Stubborn (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Stubborn_(3.5e_Flaw)) (DC for first time as well)
46) Adiction (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Substance_Addiction_(3.5e_Flaw))
47) Thinks Alound (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Thinks_Aloud_(3.5e_Flaw))
48) Reroll again and pick 1 (total of 2 flaws) Gain +1 bonus feat for second flaw
49) Reroll and DM's Choice (total of 2 flaws) Gain +1 bonus feat for second flaw
50) Reroll twice (total of 2 flaws) Gain +1 bonus feat for second flaw
You should all roll "1d50z" and refer to the chart above to determine character flaws
Valid Source Material: If in doubt, ask. If I say no, consider it invalid. No Dragon Magazine, No Homebrew, No Tomes (to include ToB and ToM), No Book of Exalted Deeds (needless to say).
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[Post 2]
Author : TanaNari
Date : Aug 18 '12 8:15am
You're forcing flaws like that? Well. I guess I have to roll before I even decide if I want to play. I mean, some of these, and the roleplay they force on the players... seem entirely unfair.
And not even in the terms of mechanics. But unless you're specifically wanting to play a character with X personality, some of these just kill a character concept.
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[Post 3]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 18 '12 8:22am
Most of the players I've had find that the forced flaw actually adds an intriguing aspect to the game.
And when you allow players to select flaws, they often choose flaws that are not a detriment to the character they intend to play. At least this way, you might end up with a bow focused ranger who is shaky, or an illiterate sorcerer.
And, considering I'm knocking off 1 rank of level adjustment free, it seems a fair trade-off
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[Post 4]
Author : TanaNari
Date : Aug 18 '12 8:28am
You might be able to argue that if you include purely biological flaws. Like shaky.
And even then it means nothing. "Oops, I rolled 'shaky', guess I'll just have to create a cleric or sorcerer instead of using my ranger. That's ok, rangers suck anyway."
But take my roll, for example. 35. The "large ham". Can be a fun character. For people who like those kinds of characters. I could look at it as an "artistic challenge", perhaps. But meh. I lost interest in proving I can play characters that I can't stand loooong ago. Plus I prove it often enough being the GM for most games I participate in.
If flaws are a problem. Do what I do. Say "no, that doesn't qualify as a flaw for your character- you can choose it, sure, but you won't get a beneficial feat from it".
I find it "revealing" as to which players are like "oh well, it fits the character, I'm keeping it" and which ones go with "screw it, doesn't benefit me, I'll throw it away".
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[Post 5]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 18 '12 8:35am
Actually, I can completely relate on the flaw you rolled. I have a character in a game that picked up the same flaw, and she is an absolute blast to play because of that flaw. Still, I like the forced flaw as it gives you less than perfect characters, and as a DM it gives me another story telling tool.
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[Post 6]
Author : TanaNari
Date : Aug 18 '12 8:43am
Yeah. But now I'm forced to decide between wanting to play an interesting "evil" game, given their rarity. And being forced to tolerate a tacked on house rule that interferes with the most important part of an RPG for me.
Namely. The Role Playing.
Actually. No. I think putting it like that makes my decision for me. It takes away too much of the fun in the game. And offers nothing of value in the return.
And seriously. If you need a random rolled flaw to make a character "less than perfect"... you're doing it wrong. With or without the flaw. Just ask the players who've seen me play. All of my characters have flaws to spare. And not ones that offer mechanical benefits.
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[Post 7]
Author : Churlish
Date : Aug 18 '12 8:51am
I was interested too, until I saw the rolling flaws thing. The guy above me is completely correct, it would interfere with the interesting roleplaying aspects in so many ways. You can't create and shape a character from the ground up, crafting personality traits and desires, then slap a random flaw on top and call it good.
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[Post 8]
Author : Sturmm
Date : Aug 18 '12 9:42am
...No offense, but that's BS. -_- Most of these Flaws are interesting RP and don't really affect your Combat ability. Are there some that do? Yes. But to say the only reason you're not playing is a random Flaw, that's just sad. Now I myself wouldn't make a Character -then- add a Flaw, simply because I want it to be part of a character, not just tacked on. But we aren't really being forced to.
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[Post 9]
Author : Churlish
Date : Aug 18 '12 9:44am
Ok then, lets say I created a character who's entire concept was built around him being an erudite and carefully controlled and refined individual who always has a backup plan.
And then I end up having to roll twice on the table and get stutter and gullible.
There goes the entire character out the window.
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[Post 10]
Author : Sturmm
Date : Aug 18 '12 9:46am
So why not roll first and then make the character with those included?
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[Post 11]
Author : TanaNari
Date : Aug 18 '12 9:47am
You're missing the point. I don't give a crap if they effect my combat ability. In fact, if they were merely mechanical drawbacks, I'd be perfectly fine with them.
But they impact the ROLE playing.
They force an unacceptable random element upon the most important part of the game. I rolled a flaw that I would not want to play. Ever. I don't give a damn if it's forced on one character or another or I have to build around it. It. Is. Forced. On. ME. The player.
And that's just not cool.
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[Post 12]
Author : Churlish
Date : Aug 18 '12 9:52am
^ This.
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[Post 13]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 18 '12 9:57am
It's as simple as this.
If you do not like the house rules, do not app.
Do not whine about it, just don't app.
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[Post 14]
Author : Sturmm
Date : Aug 18 '12 9:59am
Therein lies the key though. :) It's all a matter of willingness to adjust your RP. You have specific things you don't want to RP, and that's cool for you to have a problem with. Thing is, random Flaws mean trying things you normally wouldn't think of. That's one major reason I like it, because it adds a bit of a challenge to the RP.
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[Post 15]
Author : Skippy5393
Date : Aug 18 '12 10:08am
... I'm just going to ignore this argument and think of a character concept. Honestly, I like the idea of rolling for a flaw. It throws a situation at you where you have to think "Ok, how can I have this make sense?". It's almost like a writing exercise honestly, and I've always loved those. Gives you a chance to get out of your comfort zone and try something new. :)
Ok, gonna go roll now hahaha.
Rolled Stubborn... I am going to have fun with this. :3
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[Post 16]
Author : Keradi01
Date : Aug 18 '12 12:05pm
I agree, part of what I like about role playing is improvising things, something that I find many people ignore because they stubbornly stick to their original concepts. Having something unexpected means having to figure out how to make it work, how to play it out, and to be more flexible with your character.
Suffice to say I am quite interested in this.
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[Post 17]
Author : Toku
Date : Aug 18 '12 12:13pm
Is the experience level (both in terms of XP and game acclimation) of our opposition such that we would likely not be able to survive without optimization?
I'm somewhat interested, but if we'll be forced into PvP situations, I don't have any illusions about my skills.
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[Post 18]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 18 '12 4:31pm
At present, the Other party is Level 5, with one major encounter under their belt. You will not be crossing their path for quite some time, and for now, both games will be completely independent of each other in terms of play. Events from their game will affect the course of your campaign and vice verse. Eventually, I'll be merging the games, however, because the stories will cross in such a way that your adventure and there becomes a competition, in which there will be some PvP. You have at least 6 levels before then. That said, the party in the parallel game isn't the most optimized, I chose them more for character concept. So, build a good concept, story, and character, and ignore the later PvP aspect.
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[Post 19]
Author : MarkelDevalus
Date : Aug 18 '12 5:56pm
You're missing the point. I don't give a crap if they effect my combat ability. In fact, if they were merely mechanical drawbacks, I'd be perfectly fine with them.
But they impact the ROLE playing.
They force an unacceptable random element upon the most important part of the game. I rolled a flaw that I would not want to play. Ever. I don't give a damn if it's forced on one character or another or I have to build around it. It. Is. Forced. On. ME. The player.
And that's just not cool.
Sorry dude but...
... quit whining about nothing. I am a player in Steam's game, and the random flaw thing hasn't affected me in the slightest yet. You're just being stubborn and arrogant.
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[Post 20]
Author : Powderhorn
Date : Aug 18 '12 6:25pm
This sounds like a really interesting concept, and, though I'm not really interested in figuring out 3.5 (I'm a bit stubborn when it comes to sticking with AD&D 1e and 2e), would you mind if I were to be a reader in both? I just want to see how it works out, both mechanically, and RP-wise.
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[Post 21]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 18 '12 8:39pm
Not a problem Powderhorn, readers are always welcome
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[Post 22]
Author : Canuhearmenow
Date : Aug 18 '12 8:46pm
You're missing the point. I don't give a crap if they effect my combat ability. In fact, if they were merely mechanical drawbacks, I'd be perfectly fine with them.
But they impact the ROLE playing.
They force an unacceptable random element upon the most important part of the game. I rolled a flaw that I would not want to play. Ever. I don't give a damn if it's forced on one character or another or I have to build around it. It. Is. Forced. On. ME. The player.
And that's just not cool.
What's wrong with social flaws? People in real life, even the successful, intelligent, or wealthy people have character flaws. Flaws are there for a character to overcome, it's called being human (or, in the case of DnD, being sentient) or in the case of some flaws and given these are evil characters, flaws to relish or succumb to. They're tangible drawbacks or shortcomings of a character that help make the character unique amongst the group.
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[Post 23]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 18 '12 9:00pm
Just rolled and I got a 1, which means player's choice... Is it possible for me to actually stack on more then one flaw? Is there any sort of bonus to doing so?
Yeah, too late to remove that, I saw it already.
To be completely honest, I'd rather you didn't choose more than 1 flaw (though I suppose there's an argument that can be made, that since you rolled a 1, you can pick any of the other 49 options). If you do choose an option that grants 2 flaws, my only suggestion is that you choose to re-roll both flaws, or select to roll 1 flaw and let the DM choose the other. There is a maximum of 2 Flaws per player, so if you choose to select one of the 2 flaw options and roll up one of those options, ignore it, and re-roll until you have 2 flaws.
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[Post 24]
Author : Mats Fu
Date : Aug 18 '12 9:54pm
Is there still room for another player? I have lots of DnD3.5 experience, and I'd love to play anything except a Dwarf or Divine caster.
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[Post 25]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 18 '12 9:58pm
Just posted the ad this morning Mats, App away. You have about a week or 2 before I shut it down.
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[Post 26]
Author : Warrior Princess
Date : Aug 19 '12 1:58am
(deleted failed rolled attempt was here)
I'd be interested as a wizard or cleric, but I'd need to know more about religious options in your setting.
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[Post 27]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 19 '12 1:59am
WP, there's a thread for dice rolling in the sub-forums :)
It's called the Application Thread
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[Post 28]
Author : Warrior Princess
Date : Aug 19 '12 2:03am
Do you have a deity list or such for a cleric?
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[Post 29]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 19 '12 2:06am
Not a complete list, but get with me as to what type of God you wish to follow, and I'll let you know what deities I have that will fall into that category.
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[Post 30]
Author : Warrior Princess
Date : Aug 19 '12 2:09am
I'm thinking of a corrupted Aasimar cleric whose depressed due to their rejection (for being 'impure') and has turned to a very ambitious, regal LE faith, a la Bane in FR or Asmodeus in PF.
Any charismatic, regal, authoritarian religion could work. The classic high and mighty evil church.
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[Post 31]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 19 '12 2:13am
Actually, Bane will work just fine. He's one of the deities I'm keeping for this world
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[Post 32]
Author : Warrior Princess
Date : Aug 19 '12 2:18am
Should I use the domain list from the Forgotten Realms books?
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[Post 33]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 19 '12 2:26am
Yes, you should use that same domain list
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[Post 34]
Author : Techwarrior
Date : Aug 19 '12 4:56am
Posting interest, I'm currently thinking on what I'd want to play.
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[Post 35]
Author : Kerim
Date : Aug 19 '12 4:57am
You should roll yourself up a flaw, then. It will probably shape the character you want to play to some degree.
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[Post 36]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 19 '12 7:28am
I may not even need the ad up a week with the interest I've garnered in a day.
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[Post 37]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 20 '12 1:36am
So, how does everyone feel about me closing the ad next Sunday, or should I give it a full 2 weeks?
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[Post 38]
Author : Zhou_Yu
Date : Aug 20 '12 2:03am
Posting Interest.
I've never played an evil campaign, so forgive my character if he's a little soft for your standards. :p
Edit: Oh my. OCD and Unreactive? He'll be spending so much time thinking about his compulsion that he can't react very quickly. Unreactive has to be the most unattractive flaw I've ever read...
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[Post 39]
Author : Sturmm
Date : Aug 20 '12 3:19am
Posting Interest.
I've never played an evil campaign, so forgive my character if he's a little soft for your standards. :p
Edit: Oh my. OCD and Unreactive? He'll be spending so much time thinking about his compulsion that he can't react very quickly. Unreactive has to be the most unattractive flaw I've ever read...
You could always say that you're sheathing and unsheathing your weapon because you do it 3 times by rote. :p "....Would you PLEASE just draw your weapon?!" "3 times, 3 times, 3 times, no more no less, we must do it 3 times, 3 times, 3 times."
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[Post 40]
Author : Warrior Princess
Date : Aug 20 '12 3:34am
Or, if you want to blend it into an intimidating demeanor, you have to whirl your sword around in a specific pattern before you can actually fight.
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[Post 41]
Author : Ganurath
Date : Aug 20 '12 5:16pm
Maybe the character is preoccupied with counting his opponents and noting their locations?
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[Post 42]
Author : Rosencrantz14
Date : Aug 20 '12 6:18pm
Posting interest.
Been a while since I got to be (cackles) EVIIIIILLLLLLLL!
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[Post 43]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 20 '12 6:19pm
Evil is good, is it not. Thanks for your interest
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[Post 44]
Author : ArialBoldCavalier
Date : Aug 20 '12 8:56pm
Hi, definitely interested but I'm new to the forum and a bit lost - is there a thread to do the dice rolls yet and if so, where is it? Thanks.
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[Post 45]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 20 '12 9:19pm
Click the forum link in the first post, Arial
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[Post 46]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 22 '12 5:50am
So, closing down apps on Friday at midnight, invites will be sent by Sunday at midnight (all times in Central Standard)
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[Post 47]
Author : jojolagger
Date : Aug 22 '12 7:46am
A chance to break out malferian again? In his early career no less... Wonderful.
Only a few flaws that need a noticeable change to him, some even fit nicely.
Let's roll.
Can I assume a sorcerer doesn't count as Dragon based?
And one big question. How evil are we aiming here?
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[Post 48]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 22 '12 8:15am
Sorcerer does not count as dragon based
and be as evil as you desire
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[Post 49]
Author : jojolagger
Date : Aug 22 '12 8:23am
Sorcerer does not count as dragon based
Would taking some of the dragony spells violate the spirit of that? I like wings of swift flight, but they can be fluffed as demonic wings.
and be as evil as you desire
Please tell me the parallel party has a paladin. Making paladins fall is fun.
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[Post 50]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 22 '12 8:39am
Refluff the spell as Demonic, and you can use it
And the Good party has a Paladin of Holyness, and a Law Mage. Not exactly Paladins, but very very close.
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[Post 51]
Author : Kerim
Date : Aug 22 '12 8:56am
Also, you can be as evil as you want, but Mezuh trumps all.
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[Post 52]
Author : jojolagger
Date : Aug 22 '12 9:34am
Refluff the spell as Demonic, and you can use it
And the Good party has a Paladin of Holyness, and a Law Mage. Not exactly Paladins, but very very close.
Provided they have some form of code and are seen as a pillar of the community (or similar), it's all good.
Also, you can be as evil as you want, but Mezuh trumps all.
Impossible. He puts efficiency first. Which means there is conceivably a situation where he might not force a paladin to go on a killing spree through town. And that's terrible.
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[Post 53]
Author : Sturmm
Date : Aug 22 '12 10:09am
No matter who is "The most evil", the whole Party becomes "The most evil" because everyone allows that most evil person to live, which makes them responsible for all those evil acts.
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[Post 54]
Author : Kerim
Date : Aug 22 '12 11:38am
Not really. Is it better to live and be evil for another day, or die with your last evil act?
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[Post 55]
Author : Sturmm
Date : Aug 22 '12 11:51am
Both?
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[Post 56]
Author : Kerim
Date : Aug 22 '12 12:06pm
Nah. If I would choose between dying while letting a Paladin go on a murderous rampage, or living so I can burn down a hospital for orphaned baby animals, I'd choose the latter.
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[Post 57]
Author : Lucky number 13
Date : Aug 22 '12 12:06pm
With raise dead the point becomes moot.
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[Post 58]
Author : Kerim
Date : Aug 22 '12 12:25pm
Okay. but still, Mezuh still holds the title of 'most evil bastard ever.'. And his parents were married.
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[Post 59]
Author : Sturmm
Date : Aug 22 '12 1:10pm
Nah. Sorry Kerim...but Richard still holds that title.
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[Post 60]
Author : Kerim
Date : Aug 22 '12 3:11pm
Nope. Richard has to kill to keep his powers. Mezuh does it because he thinks it's fun. (also Woo for looking for group!)
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[Post 61]
Author : Sturmm
Date : Aug 22 '12 3:16pm
That's not true and you know it! Richard kills because he enjoys it! That he gets to keep his powers thanks to his murderous tendency is a simple perk. :p
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[Post 62]
Author : Canuhearmenow
Date : Aug 22 '12 5:59pm
Aww damn, I got the character I want to make, but barely got any time to do it (college starting and all.) I'll see if I can post most of the guy's info tonight.
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[Post 63]
Author : CptFitz
Date : Aug 23 '12 3:20am
@Churlish: your character being bad at its central concept can be pretty funny to play
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[Post 64]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 23 '12 8:21pm
So, 36 hours till add is closed, get your apps started by Midnight CST on Friday, and finished no later than midnight CST Saturday. Final decisions will be made Sunday
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[Post 65]
Author : Warrior Princess
Date : Aug 24 '12 12:36am
Is my ap sufficiently complete?
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[Post 66]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 24 '12 12:37am
Is my ap sufficiently complete?
yes
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[Post 67]
Author : reyapxat
Date : Aug 24 '12 8:55pm
I was finishing up the written portion of my application and must have messed something up because I drastically altered my stat and flaw rolls. I built my character around what I originally had and already have my flaws and stats recorded. Can we use the honor system or do I need to change things very quickly? They were up for days without incident =/
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[Post 68]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 24 '12 8:56pm
I was finishing up the written portion of my application and must have messed something up because I drastically altered my stat and flaw rolls. I built my character around what I originally had and already have my flaws and stats recorded. Can we use the honor system or do I need to change things very quickly? They were up for days without incident =/
I'll go on the honor system, until I'm given reason not to
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[Post 69]
Author : reyapxat
Date : Aug 24 '12 9:01pm
managed to get this off an unrefreshed window.
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[Post 70]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 24 '12 9:10pm
That's even better Reya
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[Post 71]
Author : Kerim
Date : Aug 24 '12 9:13pm
Indeed. A 17 and an 18 is awesome. If you put the lvl 4 skill point in the 17 you can have 2 at 18, without racial adjustments.
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[Post 72]
Author : reyapxat
Date : Aug 24 '12 9:49pm
Unless I want under 20 hp that is not an option. I sunk the 17 (sub-optimally) into Con for a 15 overall.
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[Post 73]
Author : Warrior Princess
Date : Aug 24 '12 10:51pm
Hit points are for people who plan on being hit. Rookie mistake.
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[Post 74]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 24 '12 10:59pm
Everyone can assume they'll take damage.
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[Post 75]
Author : Sturmm
Date : Aug 24 '12 11:02pm
Everyone can assume they'll take damage.
Not everyone can assume that, some people's ego refuses to allow them to even consider it.
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[Post 76]
Author : Kerim
Date : Aug 24 '12 11:02pm
Okay, great. Not too much though, right? Otherwise I'll take a toad (Also known as: Polymorphed enemy) as my pet.
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[Post 77]
Author : Sturmm
Date : Aug 24 '12 11:10pm
How much HP do you have? You can expect to take that+1 in damage every battle. :p
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[Post 78]
Author : Kerim
Date : Aug 24 '12 11:22pm
Well, I have 20 HP. Also, I've got a bodyguard.
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[Post 79]
Author : Sturmm
Date : Aug 24 '12 11:26pm
Hint: Best bodyguard in the game won't stop a Fireball smacking you in the nose. :p
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[Post 80]
Author : Kerim
Date : Aug 24 '12 11:32pm
Nope. That's what I've got you for. Kill the casters before they can hurt me.
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[Post 81]
Author : Warrior Princess
Date : Aug 24 '12 11:34pm
I was joking, I just forgot to add a ;) or :p
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[Post 82]
Author : Sturmm
Date : Aug 24 '12 11:38pm
Mhm. I don't believe you. I think you meant EXACTLY what you said.
As far as killing the Casters...I'll probably sit back and watch them blow up the party every once in awhile and step in before anyone's killed. :p If I always kill them before you're hit then you stop realizing why I'm so important!
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[Post 83]
Author : Kerim
Date : Aug 24 '12 11:40pm
I know why you're important. You're there to keep Karl happy inbetween fights, when he's not chewing on the bones of our enemies.
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[Post 84]
Author : Canuhearmenow
Date : Aug 25 '12 12:48am
How much HP do you have? You can expect to take that+1 in damage every battle. :p
Come at me bro, I'm sitting behind 19 AC and 56 HP.
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[Post 85]
Author : Kerim
Date : Aug 25 '12 12:49am
Contagion. Glitterdust. Ray of Stupidity. Should I continue?
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[Post 86]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 25 '12 12:57am
Dead Magic Zone
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[Post 87]
Author : Kerim
Date : Aug 25 '12 12:59am
Bow proficiency. Also, bodyguard and assassin.
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[Post 88]
Author : Sturmm
Date : Aug 25 '12 1:26am
Reminds me Steam...I need to get an item that's a "Portable Dead Magic Zone". Consider that my "Dream Magic Item" to have. :p
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[Post 89]
Author : Canuhearmenow
Date : Aug 25 '12 1:26am
Contagion. Glitterdust. Ray of Stupidity. Should I continue?
Improved Initiative, a spell designed specifically to trip you, and a high To-hit+damage ratio.
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[Post 90]
Author : Sturmm
Date : Aug 25 '12 1:27am
Enough Hide/Move Silently none of you can spot me sitting on the sideline eating Popcorn and chuckling with the GM about you silly people killing each other.
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[Post 91]
Author : Kerim
Date : Aug 25 '12 1:27am
There is no such spell. So suck it.
Also, Rat touch attack.
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[Post 92]
Author : Sturmm
Date : Aug 25 '12 1:28am
There is no such spell. So suck it.
Also, Rat touch attack.
There is actually. A Bigby's Tripping Hand spell.
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[Post 93]
Author : Canuhearmenow
Date : Aug 25 '12 1:30am
There is no such spell. So suck it.
Also, Rat touch attack.
Step it up dude! (http://dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-ii--80/bigbys-tripping-hand--2963/)
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[Post 94]
Author : Kerim
Date : Aug 25 '12 1:30am
Fine. Spell Resistance, +5 reflex save. Also, +3 initiative, without needing a feat.
And alter self to a creature with improved int.
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[Post 95]
Author : Warrior Princess
Date : Aug 25 '12 2:28am
Does enslaving minions and warping their bodies come close enough to Conjuration, oh beloved DM?
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[Post 96]
Author : steampunkadept
Date : Aug 25 '12 5:43am
36-48 Hour notice - I'll be selecting players no later than midnight CST on Sunday.
No new applications are being accepted.
This ad is now closed
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