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@nalle_hukkataival getting the FA on the big bad project up in Mud Springs Canyon today!!! Nalle named it Kintsugi. Google it its a rad Japanese concept. He seemed pretty set on 8C looked really really hard even for him!

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The fact that your ass is about 15 feet off he ground when you do the crux though, adds a huge physiological element that definitely raises the difficulty of the boulder. So, with the added element of the height, and the much easier intro moves, I think for me, the overall difficulty was in the 14 range. Even though I used easier beta, it's still one of the hardest climbs I've ever done. And definitely one of the best!!!