Very smooth in his retreat from center to his throwing point, demonstrating the slide-and-adjust agility to step up in the pocket or roll out to avoid pressure...Shows very good knee bend and the ability to weave through traffic, making a good effort to provide ball security before heading up field...Capable of handling the mental aspect of the game, as he makes all of the required reads and checks to excel in a pass-oriented offense...Won't hesitate to square his shoulders and drive his legs to gain tough yardage up the middle rather than passively head to the sidelines to avoid any contact...Doesn't force the ball into traffic and can keep defenses honest with his long-range arm strength or ability to weave in and out of traffic as a ball carrier...With his body control, agility and hip flexibility, he is quick driving back from center, doing a nice job of setting his feet in either 3-step or 5-step drops...Gets to his throwing point fluidly and has the balance to make all the throws on the run...Nimble and agile rolling out of the pocket and has the balance to step up and avoid pocket pressure...While patient waiting for the plays to develop, he is not the type who will hold on to the ball too long and then try to force the action to make the play, as he knows when he needs to throw the ball away...Demonstrates the compact delivery and throwing motion, along with the wrist flick, to get the ball out cleanly and quickly. He has a compact motion, holding the ball chest-high to execute a fluid three-quarter release...Seems more comfortable airing the ball out, rather than playing dink-and-dunk with a short-area passing game (accuracy is a bit off on screens, wheel routes)...Effective at throwing ropes 40 yards downfield with ease...Accurate throwing from the pocket and has the balance to also make those throws on the move...Consistent setting his feet and shows good mechanics delivering the ball on time...Likes to air the ball out more than stay underneath, as he knows how to get the ball to his targets in stride rather than have them wait or come back for it...Keeps his cool under pressure and knows that when all else fails, he has the feet to step up and avoid the pocket pressure...Stands tough under duress and shows confidence in his ability to execute the play...Patient waiting for plays to develop and does a very good job with ball security...Vocal on the field, demonstrating a little bit of Brett Favre with his bravado...Capable of getting big yardage with his feet and is a dangerous threat running with the ball...As a ballcarrier, he shows good strength and body lean to gain additional yardage after the initial hit and is conscious of protecting the ball and shielding it from the defenders...Builds to top acceleration nicely and is alert to coverages (won't run into spots too often)...Knows how to get the ball to his deep targets over their outside shoulder without the receiver having to adjust. Negatives: Needs to add more bulk and has just adequate height for a drop-back position, but does a good job of scanning the field and his mobility could be an asset in a spread offense...Must work on his timing a bit (needs to take a bit off those tosses to make it easier for the receiver to secure without having to adjust), but has the vision to scan the field and make good progression reads...Gets the ball through the throwing arc well and has a lively arm, but needs to learn how to vary his speed at times (puts too much zip on his short throws)...Has good arm strength, but when he fails to set his feet properly, his throws will wobble...Has not faced as many complex defenses as he will experience in the NFL, but he shows good anticipation and timing making all of his throws.

Seriously though, no shame in not be able to win out over Kapernick and Smith. Not beating Tolzien for the 3rd spot in San Fran is a bit of a ??? but this pretty much seals the deal on the end of the Colt McCoy era.

I don't need to be patient, they're going to be shit forever. - CDT, discussing my favorite NFL team

Hopefully they provide him with the cream of the crop supplies to run his business. I'd hate for Longhorn Nation/Colt fans to complain that his Dunkins failed b/c he had inferior equipment.

Galley Boys are slop on top of a so-so burger and a bun you coulde get from a Covneninet food mart generic pack. They the Antoine Joubert of burgers; soft, sloppy, oozing grease and cheap sauce and extremely overrated by a biased fan base. Proof that if you throw enough cheap sauce shit on a burger you still can't overcome the lame burger. -JB

Hopefully they provide him with the cream of the crop supplies to run his business. I'd hate for Longhorn Nation/Colt fans to complain that his Dunkins failed b/c he had inferior equipment.

Nothing will help Texans beat that summer heat more than going inside and downing a piping-hot cup of coffee. Good decision Colt, wish you the best. I can actually see him behind the counter in one of those fold-up cardboard hats, would blend in with anyone else.

Maybe this move is in response to Colt's "threw it in the dirt on purpose" nonsense.

''We were pretty far behind at that point when I got in, so I assumed we would start throwing,'' McCoy said. ''It took a couple series getting used to the pocket - hadn't had any reps, hadn't sat back there in a while - so getting a feel for how those guys were playing, I maybe missed a couple throws early.

''A couple times I just threw the ball in the dirt to let those guys (teammates) rest. We were throwing the ball down the field and those guys were tired.''

Hikohadon wrote:Maybe this move is in response to Colt's "threw it in the dirt on purpose" nonsense.

''We were pretty far behind at that point when I got in, so I assumed we would start throwing,'' McCoy said. ''It took a couple series getting used to the pocket - hadn't had any reps, hadn't sat back there in a while - so getting a feel for how those guys were playing, I maybe missed a couple throws early.

''A couple times I just threw the ball in the dirt to let those guys (teammates) rest. We were throwing the ball down the field and those guys were tired.''

Just looking over his career...he was pretty impressive in college. Doesn't seem like he's gotten much of a shot in the NFL. Who knows? I bet we see him at some point next week. SHUR is likely to get Thad Lewis killed by halftime.

You know, I have some thoughts on that if you'd like to hear them in this thread.

Sure, why make this one different than the rest?

For kicks and giggles I went back and looked at Thad Lewis on NFL Draft Combine notes. Anyone else realize he's a midget and not very fast? And this sounds hauntingly familiar:

OverviewLewis has been an extremely effective quarterback for Duke over the past four years and has done a good job of maintaining a quality touchdown-to-interception ratio. He understands the offensive scheme and is a good game manager, but his arm strength is marginal and his accuracy, especially on the deep throws, can be erratic at best. He is athletic and can extend the pocket and does a good job of squaring his shoulders to make the throw when on the move. He does a good job of protecting the football and does not force many throws. He will struggle when he needs to add some zip on his throws to squeeze the ball through small windows but has enough going for him to make you think he could catch on as a backup at the next level.

AnalysisStrengthsMakes solid pre-snap reads and shows the ability to go through progressions. Will check down and make plays when the primary target is covered. Has enough arm strength to put some zip on the ball. Steps up in the pocket and is not afraid to take a hit. Throws well on the run and has deceptive speed. WeaknessesDoes not have the height to see over the line. Wind-up delivery makes him prone to batted balls and interceptions. Holds on to the ball for too long and takes his lumps. Lacks consistent accuracy and throws behind his receivers too often. Does not always step into his throws losing velocity on deep passes.

I don't know (or care alll that much) about what the scouting reports say, so my recollection from preseason:

Mobile enough, but hardly a Vick or RG3. Bigger than Colt, also uses his mobility better as far as running down the field rather than around the pocket. Arm strength OK, better than Colt (saying nothing), not as good as Weeden. Has a bit of windup, so the ball doesn't come out quickly. Weeden-esque in accuracy, which is code for "streaky".

Basically, a combo of Colt and Weeden. Which sounds scary, but if he were able to limit that to only heir good qualities, he'd prob be fine. Also means that he has the *chance* to be a more complete player than either one.

But it all comes down to his head, since he'll be running a crap scheme against a team that will blitz young QB's until they prove they can beat it. Tall order for a guy in his first NFL start. Likely, he'll get killled.

Hikohadon wrote:I don't know (or care alll that much) about what the scouting reports say, so my recollection from preseason:

Mobile enough, but hardly a Vick or RG3. Bigger than Colt, also uses his mobility better as far as running down the field rather than around the pocket. Arm strength OK, better than Colt (saying nothing), not as good as Weeden. Has a bit of windup, so the ball doesn't come out quickly. Weeden-esque in accuracy, which is code for "streaky".

Basically, a combo of Colt and Weeden. Which sounds scary, but if he were able to limit that to only heir good qualities, he'd prob be fine. Also means that he has the *chance* to be a more complete player than either one.

But it all comes down to his head, since he'll be running a crap scheme against a team that will blitz young QB's until they prove they can beat it. Tall order for a guy in his first NFL start. Likely, he'll get killled.

But at least I don't have to watch Colt.

I don't think he is bigger than Colt, but that's splitting hairs.

The reason I even looked back was to see what kind of offense and what kind of speed he has. Because he has no chance against a Steeler team not mailing it in other than, IMO, them running a pitol/zone read type offense tht maybe they have to react to instead of dictate to.

He's not that guy. He's not that mobile/running type. They're going to go conventional, use Hardesty, have him throw on a lot of 3rd and 6 and 2nd and 11s and he's going to get destroyed. And again, we'll know knowhere near enough about him because of a game plan and coach that refuses to even consider a dynamic approach. Or refuses to think at all.

Right you are. He could be RG3 and they would have him sitting in the pocket all day. He could be the QB version of Barry Sanders with a John Elway arm and they'd have him throwing slants.

But at 6'2, 200, he's certainly at least taller than Colt. Don't you remember him from the Preseason? No way you can look at him and say he's Colt-size.

And his 4.8 40 isn't impressive, but he does scramble a lot (the nature of young QB's that don't know what they're doing), and even though he's not blazing fast his running ability is at least a deterrent. And from what I recall, when he runs, he doesn't run like a QB seeking a safe place to curl up and hide.

Again, Shurmsy will no way call run plays for him in ANY attempt to make the offense even REMOTELY dynamic, but I betcha he runs (for his life) for 50 yards Sunday.

But the only thing we'll be able to accurately judge at all regarding this guy is his throwing ability and the speed of his decision making, since those are the plays called by WCO 101. Because he maybe scrambles 8 times for 50 yards doesn't mean he can run a Read Option.

Hikohadon wrote:Right you are. He could be RG3 and they would have him sitting in the pocket all day. He could be the QB version of Barry Sanders with a John Elway arm and they'd have him throwing slants.

But at 6'2, 200, he's certainly at least taller than Colt. Don't you remember him from the Preseason? No way you can look at him and say he's Colt-size.

And his 4.8 40 isn't impressive, but he does scramble a lot (the nature of young QB's that don't know what they're doing), and even though he's not blazing fast his running ability is at least a deterrent. And from what I recall, when he runs, he doesn't run like a QB seeking a safe place to curl up and hide.

Again, Shurmsy will no way call run plays for him in ANY attempt to make the offense even REMOTELY dynamic, but I betcha he runs (for his life) for 50 yards Sunday.

But the only thing we'll be able to accurately judge at all regarding this guy is his throwing ability and the speed of his decision making, since those are the plays called by WCO 101. Because he maybe scrambles 8 times for 50 yards doesn't mean he can run a Read Option.

The combine numbers say 6-foot tall, 215lbs. That's what I was referring too. Not sure what the media guide says, but do know those are often some of the finest pieces of fiction you'll ever read.

Hikohadon wrote:Right you are. He could be RG3 and they would have him sitting in the pocket all day. He could be the QB version of Barry Sanders with a John Elway arm and they'd have him throwing slants.

But at 6'2, 200, he's certainly at least taller than Colt. Don't you remember him from the Preseason? No way you can look at him and say he's Colt-size.

And his 4.8 40 isn't impressive, but he does scramble a lot (the nature of young QB's that don't know what they're doing), and even though he's not blazing fast his running ability is at least a deterrent. And from what I recall, when he runs, he doesn't run like a QB seeking a safe place to curl up and hide.

Again, Shurmsy will no way call run plays for him in ANY attempt to make the offense even REMOTELY dynamic, but I betcha he runs (for his life) for 50 yards Sunday.

But the only thing we'll be able to accurately judge at all regarding this guy is his throwing ability and the speed of his decision making, since those are the plays called by WCO 101. Because he maybe scrambles 8 times for 50 yards doesn't mean he can run a Read Option.

The combine numbers say 6-foot tall, 215lbs. That's what I was referring too. Not sure what the media guide says, but do know those are often some of the finest pieces of fiction you'll ever read.

Fair enough. I was looking at scouting sites not the Browns site (which always inflates stuff), but, like the scouting reports, measurements seem to be all over the fucking place. He certainly looks taller than 6 foot. That's short. Maybe he plays with risers or platform shoes. Maybe Colt is really 5'10.