Red Flag Desktop Linux is the leading distribution in China and surrounding regions. Its goal is to provide the most professional desktop product available. It has more than an 80% desktop share in the Chinese linux market, and over one million copies are shipped each year with KDE as its only desktop environment. Huang JianZhong, a Senior Manager in the Desktop Product R&D Department of Red Flag, speaks below about the history of Red Flag Linux and their relationship with KDE. In 2006, Red Flag Linux has been visible by joining the Open Source Development Labs and theirongoing work withAsianux.

Past

Can you tell us about the history of your distribution? (How/when/why)

What were your first impressions about KDE's documentation and community?

HJ:
Great and complete, but no Chinese version.

Present

How closely do your releases depend on KDE releases?

HJ:
Historically, we wanted to keep the API of our release as stable as possible,
So typically we kept the version of KDE unchanged for long periods of time. We
would then backport some APIs and features from the newest KDE release.

Now, we have decided to follow the official release because we find that the
newest version of KDE is stable enough and fixes more bugs than our work.
Also, it always provides many new features desired by our customers.

Do you have a clear target audience for your distro?

HJ:
All Chinese users who want to use Linux and KDE.

Do you have any user feedback mechanism? If so, what feedback do they have about KDE?

HJ:
Yes, a powerful service network, bugzilla and forums.

In general, the feedback from customers is good: they have a
comfortable desktop environment. More feedback focuses on
hardware drivers and compatibility. But, if we can make KDE faster, that
is great.

In what ways do you customise the version of KDE that ships with your distro?

HJ:
We never change the APIs and Core Libraries for compatibility reasons. Most work
focuses on "ease of use" and bugfixes. Also, we make an effort to work on GUI
improvements and application enhancements.

What are the biggest strengths of KDE for your distro?

HJ:
The interface is similar to (forgive me) Windows, so the commercial
users have no need to change their situation. As for computer fans, they
can customize the desktop as what they want; KDE provides a great configuration system.

Interviewees are in fact prompted to be verbose during the interview process.

Please keep in mind that I purposefully ask similar questions to allow the personalities of the interviewees and their respective distros to show.

Language barriers and fluency may vary between distros and regions. Also culturally, some interviewees may be more gregarious and some more guarded.

Finally, Red Flag is a new distro that we're trying to establish a better relationship with, and we're just laying the foundation now. This interview is just one element of this process; don't expect Red Flag to tell their life story - we're just getting to know each other. :)

But many have asked to learn more about Red Flag, as they're incredibly prominent in a flourishing region. Rumor has it :) that they will be in attendance at aKademy, so if you're there, you have every chance to learn more and introduce yourself.

Thanks for the feedback. With some of the next distros in line for this interview series, you may see some more detailed answers to your liking.

Huang JianZhong is a very approachable person. If people have specific technical questions to ask about Red Flag, we can certainly ask here in the forum, or we can alternatively schedule a follow-up technical interview.

Like 'Ask Slashdot' style - what do people want to know? For example, some i18n questions were asked above.

Depending on question universality or applicability, a technical section can be added to my interviews. Although these *are* purposefully meant to be a bit more introductory and light-hearted. Maybe we'll just end up posting all their code to satisfy everyone. :)

As you know, there is some difficult to communicate between us, for example, the different language, the different custom.

As in DAM2 meeting said, We need change this。

about new features, for example, we are developing a Network Management Framework based on kde(not similar with NetworkManager), Tag support for Konqueror File Management, A set of config tools under Kcontrol framework, also some gui improvement(for example, I post something in kde-look.org and kde-apps.org)

A ShareDaemon(based on dbus) and KDE gui support for easy shareing with folders and printers.

Better Chinese support for Qt4 (for example bold chinese font, underline issue), after Freetype-2.1.10, there is FT_GlyphSlot_Embolden Api, But it can not works very well with non-antialias Chinese font (cario and libXft also had these problems). So here we need some works.

XGL-Kwin would be great, is there somewhere we can check to keep track of progress?

A distro that ships so many copies could be a great source of new features and testing. I'd also be excited if a bit of manpower could be thrown at some of the more popular (unpopular?) bugs in KDE's bugzilla.

"Wade, why don't you interview Tomahawk Desktop developers? Tomahawk is also from Asia and looks like they are doing something."

Oh please..... It's nice to hear about some people, who you don't normally hear of, doing something with KDE. They're not going to come in with all sorts of ideas about this that and the other straight away, and then there's the language barrier as well.

I thought this was a nice introduction to let us know who they are and that they're using KDE to do good things. In the future there may be more interviews with more detail in there, but this was more of an introduction. It's important for KDE to reach out to users and potential contributors in this way for them to feel comfortable with KDE and vice versa.

I think it would be great if we could get to know each other better (at all?). The western world is mostly disconnected from the asian world. From the comments of cjacker, Red Flag is doing a lot of KDE related work. It is a shame that we didn't know that untill now.

With their commitment to KDE, their incredible Chinese market share, and the amazing potencial size of the chinese market, Red Flag Linux is surely a distribution to watch!

Actually most of the GNU/Linux users here are _not_ using the Red Flag GNU/Linux. Only the government will buy a lot copy of it (but whether they actually _use_ it or not is a separate issue).

That distribution is heavily tainted & freedom-subtracted (as it contains a whole bunch of proprietary fonts, drivers and others), and you'll also face many trouble with installing other software (as there are no apt, yum or so).

But if they are honest to contribute to KDE, I think it's still a good thing. I just hope they are not attempting to keep KDE under their monopolic control (from cjacker: the only way to solve all the problems of GNU/Linux is to keep it under the monopolic control of a big company). J/K though :)

> You know why some of the Chinese users are using the distributions other
> than Redflag Linux? Coz they think that the moon abroad is much brighter
> than the one in China.

LOL, this is interesting: everyone who uses GNU/Linux but don't use yours are traitors. Doesn't you mean this?

I use Debian GNU/Linux because it isn't freedom-subtracted, and it's better... uh, more suitable for me. If you can give a distribution which is better than this one, I'll use yours too. But you don't, so no way.

> About the above statistics of market share, you can get it from IDC.

I don't think any statistics can have unauthorized copies count. So that is the case.

I could have added an "almost" before "everyone". Sorry for miswording.

But you have to admit the problems. It's not about nationalism, it's about being honest.

As for what you have done for free software, I would like to thank for you contribution. It's true that I have contributed less than you (but not none!), but that doesn't mean I have to thank you for _everything_.

Whistler

PS: please stop insulting me at linuxfans.org, as I did not insult you.

I don't say that I'm in any way "different" from the Chinese, as I'm Chinese too. I just mean that there is a problem, and we should face it instead of fooling others as well as ourselves. And please don't try to find other things in my bad wording.

"I just hope they are not attempting to keep KDE under their monopolic control (from cjacker: the only way to solve all the problems of GNU/Linux is to keep it under the monopolic control of a big company). J/K though :)"
yes, this is my sign in linuxfans.org, you also forgot that I said, any company is ok.

I works with Linux for 9 years, also works for FreeBSD for 2 years.

I know where we had troubles. I know why users can not use linux easily.

You know nothing about this.

I remember what I said, I also take responsibility for what I said.

do you know what is ABI compatibility?
do you know the troubles that ISV faces?

.....
You just stay home, play linux, and think yourself is so cool.

What had you done for Linux?

anyway, you can say anything you like.

But remember, "Love your motherland, Do something for your motherland, if you think something is not so good, take effort to change your motherland, this is the difference between people and animal."

Especially, don't assume everyone who disagrees with you are all idiots who just "play linux, and think yourself is so cool". I don't "play (with)" GNU/Linux, and I don't think myself if "cool" to use GNU/Linux either.

> But remember, "Love your motherland, Do something for your motherland, if you think something is not so good, take effort to change your motherland, this is the difference between people and animal."

Oh and I forgot to tell you: I do love my nation, and I won't tolerate someone saying something like "all Chinese are ****". But that doesn't me I have to deny all of the problems in this nation.