Agreed. And then trade him for a pitcher with just 140 MLB innings if he becomes a top five prospect.
#Trollin

Tyrone Sharpton

bash

Jorge Brosada

and put him in the bullpen, Like every other Brian Cashman product.

Will The Thrill

I can’t wait for Austin, Williams, and Sanchez to make it to the show. Hopefully by 2014 or 2015…

Avi

Sanchez has to first show he can cut down on the K’s before we regard him as a future star. I did some research on this last year and I looked at all the current stars who played in the Sally league at the same age as Sanchez. None of them had a K rate even similar to his. Of course the fact the he’s a catcher changes the equation where he doesn’t have to hit like a star to provide immense value. I just feel like people regard him as a miguel cabrera upside hitter at catcher and he’s not that. Has there been a player in the last ten years or so to whiff at the same rate as Sanchez at ANY minor league level and then go on to have extended succes as a hitter in the Majors? The K’s are a bigger concern than most realize or want to admit.

Kevin

You do realize that Austin has more K’s than Sanchez?

Jeff

Ryan Howard wiffed at a higher rate than both Sanchez and Austin.

JohnnyC

Yes, but has Howard had much success at the major league level? Hmm, let’s do some research.

Jeff

Yeah, a mvp award and seven years of 30+ homeruns. Throw in seven years of 100+ RBIs.

Jeff

My mistake six years.

Ted Nelson

.385 wOBA across nearly 4,500 PAs. That’s a ton of success over a prolonged period.

YankeeGrunt

Well it’s not a perfect analogy. Howard has a terrible platoon split, while as good as Sanchez is against righties he destroys lefties. And while people want to quibble with Howard’s production, if you could get that from a guy playing league average or better defense behind the plate you’d take it every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Steve (different one)

Not sure if serious…

Voice of Reason

Almost everything Avi said was inaccurate or ridiculous.

Do many people who are not deluded expect Ryan Howard, let alone Miguel Cabrera (!?) production out of him at the ML level? If that were a common sentiment he’d be a top 5 prospect in baseball. He’s regarded as a catcher who hits for a lot of power at a young age and has the potential to do the same at the ML level. No reason to pretend people think he’s superman so you can cut him down by making reference to something we all already know. Not all players’ K rates increase as they move up, many of them improve.

http://none GrandyManCan

Who could be worse at the plate than Martin? He’s hitting .180

Ted Nelson

His wOBA is .316, which is not bad at all for a C. Batting average is not a measure of overall offensive contribution.

yankee blue

plus every game you see Sanchez has made an error. he is a lousy defensive catcher.

Ted Nelson

Errors are certainly a problem, but there’s a lot more to C defense than errors. Errors can be cleaned up more easily than a lack of mobility or arm. Sanchez has cut his passed balls substantially from last season (about a third of what they were), and his CS% is solid.

Some guys like Nunez will never beat error problems, but I’d say that’s pretty rare. Errors from 19, 20 year olds in the low minors are pretty common. Russell Martin, as a convenient example, had 17 errors in 58 games caught at 20 years old to go with 31 PBs. Pudge Rodriguez even had a ton of PBs at 17.

All Praise Be To Mo

Look up Jeter’s errors from Class A his first year, 50 something IIRC.

Ted Nelson

2014 isn’t very likely for any of them. For all 3…

Jorge Brosada

They’ll be in the bullpen by 2017

Ted Nelson

Please don’t reply to me with such ignorant BS.

Manny’s BanWagon

Here’s hoping JR Murphy has a big 2nd half. After having a really nice season last year where he looked like he could really become a major prospect as a catcher, he’s been hugely disappointing so far.

At this point, it looks like he and Sanchez should switch places.

YankeeGrunt

His defense seems much improved, his CS rate is up, the bat should come around but if he can be a legit MLB-caliber catcher he will be very valuable. Give him some time, if he’s been hitting the glove work as hard as it sounds that may be why the bat is off.

Manny’s BanWagon

No doubt it’s too early to give up on him. We’ve seen plenty of cases before where things all of a sudden just click into place where the player goes on a tear.

Tyrone Sharpton

gary sanchez and montero in the lineup in 10 years would look pretty nice

Drew

I feel dumb for even responding to this thread, but there’s this guy Mike Stanton who’s not too bad and struck out quite a bit.

bojii3

No matter how much you squabble over milb stats, no one knows how they will progress in the future. The same questions were asked about Ryan howard and every other mlb star and possible flame out. No one knows….stop being critical and enjoy the ride. Its not supposed to be stressful rooting for prospects but enjoyable.

Be glad the yankee system is not like it was in the early 2000’s and take a deep breathe and be happy the system continues to infuse talent, whether they end up making it or not. No system is perfect

Kosmo

Williams,Sanchez,Austin and Gumbs are all fine young talents. They all have a great shot at being good if not great MLB players.

I would like to see Montgomery fast-tracked.

Mustelier continues to rake.

Brian in NH

you realize most of these guys will be traded or flame out, right?

bpdelia

So what? Being traded also produces value. Austin jackson got traded and im glad he did. Almost every prospect trade the yankees have made worked out. There were a couple of bad ones but not awful. Tabata isnt a star and ill reserve judgment on pineda until i see him next year.

Prospect value INCLUDES what they fetch in trades. Its not either or. In fact it may be BETTER to trade most prospects. Imagine if the yankeez had traded joba in the 2008 off season. That would be an interesting study but for high payroll teams trading good prospect for cheapish youngish veterans or high priced superstars might be smarter

Kosmo

if your responding to my post I did say ´´they all have a great shot“ I did not say it is a done deal. If they´re traded they still have a CHANCE of being “impact“type players.