Betances dominates again in Tampa win

Secondly, I forgot to include that in yesterday’s DotF, but that’s a shot of Mikey O’Brien delivering a pitch during his utterly dominant start for the Staten Island Yanks on Sunday. Thanks to commenter alex k. for the pic. As you can see, O’Brien’s not a big guy. Listed at just 5-foot-11, 185 lbs.

That line up has a ton of talent. Not including eventual signees that will join them

Reggie C.

I see Montero’s hot streak is over. Good thing for Montero that Penn and GCL personnel debuts have overshadowed his 5 Ks over the past couple games.

I’d love to find out if there were any tweets noting Betances’s velocity.

zs190

Goldstein wrote in an update that he was mid 90’s I think. Yankees themselves had him sitting 94-95, touching 97. (Either Contreras or Newman said it in an interview)

Yankee1010

Betances was around 94 with the fastball and topped out at 96 tonight.

Cult of Basebaal

Wait! That isn’t a typo? 84 walks in 37.2 innings???

Wow, that’s Neighborgallian!!!

http://www.soxandpinstripes.net JGS

Stunningly, it’s not

Chris

Venditte now has a 48:9 K:BB ratio in 37.1 IP this year. I know he doesn’t wow the scouts, but at some point don’t they need to push him to see when/if he flames out?

BklynJT

The Montero Watch is garbage. Remove that widget already.

pat

Hahaha.

http://www.soxandpinstripes.typepad.com/ Angelo

Who let this guy in?

Funny guy I tell you.

Johan Iz My Brohan

My mancrush on DeLuca can now go full throttle!

camilo gerardo

promote Brack and Betances!

Chip

Dellin has to be a potential AA call-up right? I mean he’s showing control, stuff and isn’t getting challenged at all.

Reggie C.

Lets give Betances at least another dozen starts. Right? Betances is going to have a less than dominant effort eventually, and i’d love to see how he come backs from it. Gotta love the command Betances is showing though.

Betances and Brackman have rejuvenated DotF!

mikebk

season has to be over in a dozen starts.

rbizzler

I agree with Reggie. Let the kid gain some confidence and once he is a little further removed from surgery. challenge him. There is absolutely no reason to get greedy and rush him. He is still a few years away from contributing.

Jeffrey

I don’t agree – promote Betances while he is hot and has the best chance to succeed. Brackman is improving, but he is still giving up hits and runs, Betances isn’t giving anything up.

The logic of a DeLaRosa/Betances swap is getting too hard to resist. How long can you let DeLaRosa continue to get his head beaten in?

http://www.soxandpinstripes.typepad.com/ Angelo

So you’re saying 3 starts after coming back from a serious injury is enough to promote a guy?

I’m more worried about Betances staying healthy, and he’s not always going to be THIS good. He has tons of potential, though rushing him to Trenton might hurt him. He’s gaining some much needed confidence right now, and that’s the most important thing. If he continues to have success for another 4 starts, then I say promote him.

But let his confidence grow a bit more before coming to any irrational conclusions. He’s only pitched 3 times since returning from a serious injury. Use logic.

http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist

You’re right, but he can get a taste of AA in August. By that point, half the same guys he faced in High-A will be there anyway.

http://twitter.com/JoeRo23 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

“… promote Betances while he is hot and has the best chance to succeed.”

This is precisely the wrong reason to promote a prospect. Promote a kid when he’s ready for the promotion, not just because he’s had a handful of good games and looks like he can ride a hot-streak for a little while.

vin

Maybe, but my guess is that they leave him in Tampa all season, and start him in Trenton next year with the chance to be promoted. He’s only had 1 full season as a professional, and he’s still only 22.

Chip

How many years of service does he have? I assume they get a medical redshirt one but he’s probably fairly close to being added to the 40-man right?

mikebk

he needs to go on this offseason.

vin

Is that right? I thought it was after next season because of the injuries.

rbizzler

Either way, there is no way he gets picked in the Rule V and sticks in a ML bullpen all year. The kid will not have pitched a day in AA by then.

pat

Nobody is gonna take a kid who’s 6′ 8″ touching high 90’s with the FB, good curve and a developing change?

I think he’d be the first guy pitched. No doubt about it

pat

*picked, oops.

pat

The Yankees protected Noesi after spending 09 between Charleston and Tampa, and he doesn’t anywhere near the ceiling as Betances.

pat

*doesn’t have. Geez, gotta learn to read stuff before hitting post.

rbizzler

I am not doubting Betances, but he will have @ 100 innings or less post-surgery. Is there really a chance he sticks on a ML roster for a full season? If the answer to that question is yes, by all means protect him. There will be plenty of dead weight on the 40 man to make room for him if he needs to be added. My thought was that someone that far away from the show is not a threat to be picked.

Maybe I am wrong…

http://www.soxandpinstripes.typepad.com/ Angelo

Yeah, teams would definitely go after Betances if he’s not protected. Any guy with his kind of talent would get snatched and thrown into the bullpen very quickly.

A.D.

Agreed if he’s healthy, he has to be protected.

rbizzler

Once again, not challenging you but doesn’t Noesi have superior command? He seems like a guy that could stick in a crappy ‘pen as a swing man.

pat

Noesi definitely has the superior command, but Dellin has the stuff and potential that is rarely ever available in the Rule V. He could come into AZ and probably be an immediate candidate to be their closer.

Jeffrey

Not sure why everyone gets all worked up about Nova while Noesi is so overlooked.

Noesi has had the results and is one of two Thunder players in the Futures Game (Romine is the other). From Mike Ashmore:

After posting a 5-2 record, 2.72 ERA and sick 53:6 K/BB ratio in 43 innings with High-A Tampa, the Dominican-born starter has been nearly as good since joining the Thunder.

In his first foray in Double-A, the righty is 3-1 with a 2.13 ERA in six starts and has walked six and struck out 34 Eastern League batters in 38 innings of work.

http://twitter.com/JoeRo23 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

“Not sure why everyone gets all worked up about Nova while Noesi is so overlooked.”

I like Noesi and all… But who, exactly, get’s all worked up about Ivan Nova? I haven’t heard too many people getting excited about him, he’s not seen as a top prospect but more of a back-end of the rotation guy.

A.D.

PJ the next great Yankee catcher…MIND BLOWN

steve

I would love to see him sneak his way onto the major league roster in September.

https://twitter.com/YankeesGalaxy YankeesGalaxy

Yeah DB, get ’em!

Total Dominication

Seriously guys (Yankees FO)? WTF do you have against Pat Venditte? When’s the last time he gave up a run?

Accent Shallow

He’s a guy throwing slop. Being able to do it from both sides is noteworthy, but I’d take him a level at a time.

http://twitter.com/marcos_aguirre Marcos

I understand that the odds of him ever being good or even a decent Major Leaguer are small, but so far the results (in a decent sample size) indicate that he needs a promotion!

Although I am glad that they put him on a prospect track this year, maybe the original expectations were all wrong (hopefully). But I think he should seriously be considered a candidate for AA.

Just sayin’

Brian in NH

I agree…I don’t know how much more he has to prove at his current level. Challenge him a little

Brian

With Warren returning and Brackman possibly being promoted, it could be that Kontos pitched an inning tonight and then he will again on Thursday or Friday in Brackman’s spot.

rbizzler

Or it was his throw day and they needed an inning from the BP because of the double-dip.

Rick in Boston

That’s the only thing I could think of. Although they could have stashed someone on the 7-day DL and brought up an org arm from SI or the GCL to take the inning.

Brian

True, but they need to get Stoneburner and Hall a start (not to mention Brackman if he is not promoted) and all would pitch on 6 days’ rest, it looks like. So, it looks like with Warren returning, Kontos needed an inning, and may take Brackman’s spot if a promotion is in the works.

Nathan

Kontos must be doing the “Andy Pettite pitching on off days to save the bullpen” thing for Tampa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvg7Empjfg Captain Jack

Right now the Yankee farm IMO would rank in the bottom half of MLB, but they do have quite a few nice players to have in the system.

http://www.soxandpinstripes.typepad.com/ Angelo

I agree with you.

However, the Yankees system has a lot of younger players with a lot of talent. That doesn’t guarantee success, but it’s a good start. You also have players starting to blossom, and others coming back from injuries, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the Yankees farm system makes some big strides before the year is over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvg7Empjfg Captain Jack

Yeah, I think they’re about a year or so away from a top ten farm ranking…provided everyone stays healthy they can be right up there.

camilo gerardo

I dub thee Captain Buzzkill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvg7Empjfg Captain Jack

Yeah, sorry it was late and I was tired and forgot to add that they have quite a few players who could be fast risers if they demonstrate that they can stay healthy and play above A ball.

Mike Ashmore

Would be surprised to see Betances in Trenton before the last 2-3 weeks of the season, if at all. He’s 22, his arm probably still feels like it’s held together by chewing gum and tin foil, and there’s no legitimate reason to rush him right now.

Venditte…I wrote at the start of the year that I’d expect him to be up here by the All-Star break and I stand by that. At some point, his numbers have got to warrant a call-up, whether he’s a so-called prospect or not. Josh Schmidt throws a mid-80’s fastball and a pretty nasty slow curve, but you can say he throws slop too…but look at his numbers. Slop or not, he gets the job done.

Brackman…could see him here soon. Makes more sense. With the investment they have in him, the recent improvement and the fact that he’ll be 25 in December…seeing what he can do in Trenton soon makes sense. Realistically, he should have been here by now…and with the way the Yankees try to sail pitchers especially through the system, he should have been through here by now.

Laird? Not in the Futures Game? Really? Not so much?

Brian in NH

Hooray for reasonable assertions on the prospects! I’m tired of people calling anyone with one bad game a bust, and trying to get so-and-so’s pet prospect promoted too fast.

http://www.soxandpinstripes.typepad.com/ Angelo

Well you get your fair share of both.

Rational fans who are patient and logical, and irrational fans who live and die with every game

rbizzler

Thanks for the insight Mike. I would love to see Dellin healthy and performing well enough for a late season promotion.

As or the Futures Game, how much input do the ML clubs have as to who gets selected? Despite Laird’s superior numbers, could the org not have sponsored his candidacy?

camilo gerardo

Don’t get the post-surgery argument. Is he liable to throw harder in Trenton? He has just as much risk in A as AA, except he is not being challenged in Tampa

rbizzler

Well, it’s only been three starts. The post-surgery argument is that no one comes back from surgery and doesn’t have a setback or two along the way. Let him continue to work on repeating his delivery in Tampa and if he remains healthy and is still dominating later in the year bump him up to Trenton.

People are talking about Betances like he had all sorts of polish before he had surgery and he was a candidate for the fast-track, but he wasn’t. I think he is nasty but he did have command issues, especially considering he had a rate of 4.5 BB/9 for his MiLB career.

I don’t understand why it is not enough to have a high upside arm back from surgery and throwing well. Why should he be rushed, it is not like he is knocking on the door of the bigs right now.

Januz

The OVERALL Yankee System is certainly not as good as Tampa or Texas, but they have depth at catcher and on the mound, the two toughest positions to find. They added two excellent catching possibilities (Sanchez and Murphy) to the organization in 2009. Ask Texas about trying to find a catcher sometime? When has Tampa EVER had a great catcher? Unless you love Novarro, the answer is never.

This can be said about a lot of teams passing on today’s All-Star’s. That’s why the draft is like taking a lottery pick.

rbizzler

I will agree that it was a bit puzzling that the Rays passed on Posey, considering organizational need. But the Rays have always been all about athleticism and upside in the draft, and the Beckham pick fits their m.o. That being said, I am sure that they might agree to a redo on that selection being that Posey has been as good as advertised and Beckham has been a disappointment early in his MiL career.