Devyl

Think about this. We have over 100 billion stars in our one galaxy, the Milky Way with possible orbiting planets. There are millions, if not billions, of galaxies out there. so basically there's a googol possible planets out there. And to think that we are truly alone is absurd.

Think about this. We have over 100 billion stars in our one galaxy, the Milky Way with possible orbiting planets. There are millions, if not billions, of galaxies out there. so basically there's a googol possible planets out there. And to think that we are truly alone is absurd.

It is absurd to think we are alone, but equally absurd to claim that we categorically cannot be. The simple fact of the matter is we know too little of the factors involved to be able to estimate whether we are or not

Typhus

Question - In 2023, there will apparently be an expedition to Mars in which four humans will travel to the red planet and set up the first colony.If two of the colonialists mate and produce a child, that child will be the first Martian - having been born on a planet separate to Earth.

If this child is the first Martian, would that technically make him the first 'alien' we would have contact with? At least in a technical sense?

Fireman

That said, I guess I have to believe in ghosts to have that fear. I believe in ghosts because I can't explain some of the crazy sh*t that happens sometimes. Like that plant that always makes sound, definitely a ghost.

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Question - In 2023, there will apparently be an expedition to Mars in which four humans will travel to the red planet and set up the first colony.If two of the colonialists mate and produce a child, that child will be the first Martian - having been born on a planet separate to Earth.

If this child is the first Martian, would that technically make him the first 'alien' we would have contact with? At least in a technical sense?

Sure, but they'll only technically be an alien. They won't have any cool other-worldly history, culture, or technology to tell us about, just what their parents bring them up with.

I've never seen any convincing proof for or against either of them. If aliens do exist they obviously don't have a huge effect on us (well except the reptilians, of course), but I did really like reading about alien encounters when I was a kid.

The real question is, do you guys believe in Atlanteans? I believe that American settlers were actually Atlanteans who rose up out of the sea. I mean just think how different people in Oklahoma are from people in London. It's obvious we can't actually be from Europe. It would also explain how we developed technologies like electricity and mass-production, it's because we'd previously lived in a 14,000 year old city that needed efficiency to survive in the first place, so after a safe time we just started applying technology from the home land to our society.

The Japanese were also taken over by Atlanteans during WWI. That's how they developed so much technology and such a great economy in so little time. And also how they went from Samurais in Sukiya-zukuris to salarymen in skyscrapers.

I assume this bit was a joke? Given that you've said "Americans are descended from them, and they brought all these new discoveries", and then listed a load of things that weren't discovered or invented by Americans.

I believe in Aliens as it is basically inconceivable that we, as in the human race, are the only life form: intelligent or otherwise in our solar system, let alone the entire universe which happens to be endless. I also firmly believe that some of the technological, scientific advancements in the past, say for example: around the egyptian era, are influenced by extraterrestrial intelligent lifeforms as is evident in Egyptian hieroglyphs and structures.

And as far as ghosts go.. I'm on the fence, it seems so unlikely, but that heavily contradicts what I've experienced on multiple occasions. So I can't give a definitive answer.

Barguast

Not to be pedantic, but "Do you believe in life elsewhere in the universe?" is much less loaded question. I do. But I don't believe in greys, UFO spaceships, abductions and any of the other fiction that is often associated with the term 'alien'.

d0mm2k8

Although I agree with your main point, this is actually kinda wrong. A googol is 10^100 and the number of particles in the universe is estimated to be 10^82 (though this may be just observable universe).

But yeah, probably aliens out there. Most likely just simple life though I'd say.

Tchuck

The real question is, do you guys believe in Atlanteans? I believe that American settlers were actually Atlanteans who rose up out of the sea. I mean just think how different people in Oklahoma are from people in London. It's obvious we can't actually be from Europe. It would also explain how we developed technologies like electricity and mass-production, it's because we'd previously lived in a 14,000 year old city that needed efficiency to survive in the first place, so after a safe time we just started applying technology from the home land to our society.

No. That's so inane, you have to be joking. Let aside the fact that London has existed for a couple thousand years, and that the situations in London, being an established city, and Oklahoma, being recently colonized, made for different styles of living and necessities. I also fail to see the connection that that's the explanation to how electricity was developed, even though one of the two major inventors in the electricity field was not even born in America.

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The Japanese were also taken over by Atlanteans during WWI. That's how they developed so much technology and such a great economy in so little time. And also how they went from Samurais in Sukiya-zukuris to salarymen in skyscrapers.

Because that had nothing to do with the restoration made by under the Meiji Emperor's reign, it HAD to be some other race that suddenly and so swiftly took over the entire population to effect that change. No. Samurai disappeared as the nation transitioned in it's political ways, and technological evolution was deemed as the only way Japan could become a world power after WW2, and Japanese companies worked towards that.

Dick Valor

Not to be pedantic, but "Do you believe in life elsewhere in the universe?" is much less loaded question. I do. But I don't believe in greys, UFO spaceships, abductions and any of the other fiction that is often associated with the term 'alien'.

Ghosts? No. Not a chance.

This.

The sheer vastness of the universe would seem to suggest that somewhere out there are other lifeforms... perhaps even intelligent life like ourselves. However, this vastness also makes it highly unlikely that we have or will ever encounter alien life. Space travel just takes way too long. Yes, I'm aware of wormholes, but they are purely theoretical constructs based on a purely theoretical physical construct (spacetime) that will most likely be obsolete someday (like ether, phlogiston, and other scientific postulations that once worked, but no longer mesh with emerging theories). If I was a betting man, I'd wager than mankind will never encounter intelligent life before its extinction, even if we manage to become a space-faring race.

ForumName

Joking aside, has anyone really seen that show Ancient Aliens? It's kind of interesting, some of the points they make are laughable, although others really make you think. Aliens more then likely exist somewhere, though I have my doubts as to if they have visited us or not.

As for ghosts, I do believe that demons will sometimes toy with us, may parents have had some real bad experiences with them, though I have yet to have any, and never want to. The paranormal is a very, very weird subject. There are many cases of things such as possessions and countless stories of hauntings, yet there is no scientific evidence to back it up so it falls under the realm of religion and therefor many people refuse to believe it simply because of that.

Shogun Of Japan

Alien is big term, and alien is not what we know yet, we will one day soon find out, but our current lives probably won't see it.

Also I believe that we have Alien DNA so we are hybrids mixed with Dumb species DNA, so that's why we have idiot people. I also believe the Gods are Extraterrestrials themselves so they can take on any form.

BrownBear

The real question is, do you guys believe in Atlanteans? I believe that American settlers were actually Atlanteans who rose up out of the sea. I mean just think how different people in Oklahoma are from people in London. It's obvious we can't actually be from Europe. It would also explain how we developed technologies like electricity and mass-production, it's because we'd previously lived in a 14,000 year old city that needed efficiency to survive in the first place, so after a safe time we just started applying technology from the home land to our society.

The Japanese were also taken over by Atlanteans during WWI. That's how they developed so much technology and such a great economy in so little time. And also how they went from Samurais in Sukiya-zukuris to salarymen in skyscrapers.

Dear God, you're joking?I find it hard to believe we're the only life forms in the vastness of space, although we seem to have a very self centered, small minded view of what they may be. There's nothing to say they would look like any creature we know, much less humanoid, Grey like aliens, given that they've evolved in a completely environment from us, they may not even be carbon based life forms.