I can see not being into them. I can certainly see not being interested in their current incarnation as Christine MacVie isn't involved (I fall into that category), or simply because they are 30 years past their prime.

But claiming they suck? Rumors was one of the greatest albums ever recorded. Its a perfect album. Even if you don't like them you have to acknowledge their importance to music.

For example, I don't like Bruce Springsteen, but even though it isn't my cup of tea, I still acknowledge that Born to Run is one of the most important albums ever recorded in modern contemporary music.

gilgigamesh:For example, I don't like Bruce Springsteen, but even though it isn't my cup of tea, I still acknowledge that Born to Run is one of the most important albums ever recorded in modern contemporary music.

Hey!

I still acknowledge that Born to Run is one of the most important albums ever recorded in modern contemporary music

Actually, as long as Mick Fleetwood and John McVie are present, it IS Fleetwood Mac. However, it would be beyond cool if they appeared and could convince Christine to join them just for that one concert.

Huh? Peter Green I can understand - even if he only appeared on 3 albums (it's still like discounting everything Floyd did after Saucer Full of Secrets because they kicked Syd out of the band), but Dave Mason? He only played on one album in the 90's.

Christine McVie on the other hand has been around since the 2nd album and every single album since.

Huh? Peter Green I can understand - even if he only appeared on 3 albums (it's still like discounting everything Floyd did after Saucer Full of Secrets because they kicked Syd out of the band), but Dave Mason? He only played on one album in the 90's.

Christine McVie on the other hand has been around since the 2nd album and every single album since.

My bad. I meant Bob Welch. And for the record I like the Buckingham / Nicks version. Also, I tend to think of post Syd and with Syd as two different bands with post Syd era ending with The Final Cut and becoming yet another band after that.

unfarkingbelievable:gilgigamesh: Born to Run is one of the most important albums ever recorded in modern contemporary music.

How? Why? I'm serious. I love his music. I'm just interested in knowing what the unbiased dynamics are that justify this assertion.

I'm not going to appeal to authority, but I will point out that it has made several "Top 500 albums ever" list.

But my main reason for asserting it is simple: influence. It changed the direction of popular music, bringing about an era of "Americana" style that sounded the death-knell of British invasion style that had dominated the previous decade.

It brought back the sax, as opposed to guitar, as a lead instrument in rock; something that disappeared completely since the days of early black R&B groups of the 50s.

It established Springsteen as a legend, and influenced countless musicians over the last 35-odd years. That's for starters.

Huh? Peter Green I can understand - even if he only appeared on 3 albums (it's still like discounting everything Floyd did after Saucer Full of Secrets because they kicked Syd out of the band), but Dave Mason? He only played on one album in the 90's.

Christine McVie on the other hand has been around since the 2nd album and every single album since.

gilgigamesh:unfarkingbelievable: gilgigamesh: Born to Run is one of the most important albums ever recorded in modern contemporary music.

How? Why? I'm serious. I love his music. I'm just interested in knowing what the unbiased dynamics are that justify this assertion.

I'm not going to appeal to authority, but I will point out that it has made several "Top 500 albums ever" list.

But my main reason for asserting it is simple: influence. It changed the direction of popular music, bringing about an era of "Americana" style that sounded the death-knell of British invasion style that had dominated the previous decade.

It brought back the sax, as opposed to guitar, as a lead instrument in rock; something that disappeared completely since the days of early black R&B groups of the 50s.

It established Springsteen as a legend, and influenced countless musicians over the last 35-odd years. That's for starters.

Absolutely perfect -- what I was looking for. Like I said in another thread today, I do like to snark on Fark, but I also really do like to learn too. And no doubt about it, farkers/farkettes are quite the intelligent lot. So -- thanks for your response.

I've seen Fleetwood Mac live within the past six years or so. They were amazing, and I only went because I got free box seats. Maybe not everybody's cup of tea, but they've got to be more interesting than the majority of pop bands that have been headlining the festival lately. Coldplay and Beyonce?

Huh? Peter Green I can understand - even if he only appeared on 3 albums (it's still like discounting everything Floyd did after Saucer Full of Secrets because they kicked Syd out of the band), but Dave Mason? He only played on one album in the 90's.

Christine McVie on the other hand has been around since the 2nd album and every single album since.

My bad. I meant Bob Welch. .

Bob's not here, man.

Neither is Bob Weston, who gave the band its signature sound for the two albums that kept the band alive while Fleetwood and McVie were drinking themselves into a stupor. However, their abuse problems allowed Christine to sneak a few songs into the playlist and prove she was a great songwriter.

Meanwhile, Welch was keeping the band together musically and legally, organizing tours and firing the manager who promoted the fake Fleetwood Mac. He also tried to keep Danny Kirwan vertical long enough to play a tour and when Kirwan finally went around the bend, hired Weston. I saw the '73 tour and that was a GREAT band. Even though Christine was clearly uncomfortable with her new role, she had a wonderful voice and her songwriting style was a good complement to Welch's. Plus she had a really nice bum.