Hi Leon,
No harm intended :) Just thought that people were missing my post now and
only answering yours.
Anyways hope your issue got resolved.
Angelo
-----Original Message-----
From: Leon du Plessis [mailto:l...@dsgnit.com]
Sent: 20 August 2009 01:46 PM
To: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: RE: [PHP] SESSIONS lost sometimes
Hi Angelo,
No need to be nasty and touchy. If you have done trouble to read I have
closed the discussion in a prior listing and referred back to your original
thread. thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Angelo Zanetti [mailto:ang...@zlogic.co.za]
Sent: 20 August 2009 01:21 PM
To: 'Leon du Plessis'; a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
Cc: 'Nitebirdz'; php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: RE: [PHP] SESSIONS lost sometimes
Hi Leon and all.
LEON you are misunderstanding how the sessions work. Also please start your
own thread and don't hijack mine.
To the rest that replied. Thanks, I am still stuck with the problem I have
asked the hosting company to check the storage capacity and also any other
issues with the SESSIONS on the server.
However if anyone has other things they think I can look at, I'd appreciate
that very much.
Thanks
Angelo
http://www.elemental.co.za
-----Original Message-----
From: Leon du Plessis [mailto:l...@dsgnit.com]
Sent: 20 August 2009 12:04 PM
To: a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
Cc: 'Nitebirdz'; php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: RE: [PHP] SESSIONS lost sometimes
Thanks Ashley,
I just want to iterate again that when a new page is opened by another
existing page in a new browser or Tab, the session_id is already created and
therefore the current way browsers work is in no way compremised. The new
browser/tab would receive the session id along with GET or POST variables.
What I am suggesting/hoping is that when a new browser is opened or a new
tab is opened via the application, the protocols would reckognize that this
is the first time the page is served and is not being called from another
page. That is, a new page is loaded by the user entering it, and NOT by
clicking login or some other link from an existing page.
Yes, I know..that creates other scenarios, so is happy to not meddle with
the way browsers work. It is just a limitation I will live with and can get
by with it.
Regards
Leon
-----Original Message-----
From: Ashley Sheridan [mailto:a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk]
Sent: 20 August 2009 11:39 AM
To: Leon du Plessis
Cc: 'Nitebirdz'; php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: RE: [PHP] SESSIONS lost sometimes
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 10:50 +0200, Leon du Plessis wrote:
> ">> It'd make sense for things to run this way, I think. After all, I'd
> find it quite confusing if I log into Google Docs, open a document (by
> default, it opens in a new tab) and I had to log in yet again to be able
to
> edit it."
>
> Yes. I agree. But in this case the Tab being opened is used with the same
> authentication details either via POST, GET or Cookie variables. The
problem
> comes in when a totally different set of login credentials are being used
> (for the same tab/window). Other user's login particulars should not
affect
> your login variables.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nitebirdz [mailto:nitebi...@sacredchaos.com]
> Sent: 20 August 2009 10:40 AM
> To: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] SESSIONS lost sometimes
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 09:44:02AM +0200, Leon du Plessis wrote:
> >
> > Since we are on the subject: I have the following similar problem:
> >
> > When testing page on internet explorer, I find that one tab's variables
> can
> > affect another tab's variables. Thus when having the same web-site open
> and
> > using SESSION variables but for different users, Internet explorer can
> > become "disorientated". This also "sometimes" happen when I have two
> > separate browsing windows open with Internet Explorer for the same site.
> >
> > I have yet to determine if this is an internet explorer, or PHP or
> > combination of the two that is causing this condition.
> >
> > To my understanding _SESSION variables should be maintained per session,
> tab
> > or window. If this has been addressed already, my apologies, but thought
> it
> > worthwhile to mention.
> >
>
> I'm a total newbie when it comes to these issues, but it seems to me
> that Firefox behaves in the very same manner. It's not limited to PHP
> sessions either. It's always been my experience on any website that
> requires authentication, including the likes of Google Mail, etc. When
> I want to run multiple sessions for different GMail accounts, for
> example, I just create a different user profile in Firefox.
>
> It'd make sense for things to run this way, I think. After all, I'd
> find it quite confusing if I log into Google Docs, open a document (by
> default, it opens in a new tab) and I had to log in yet again to be able
> to edit it.
>
>
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>
The point is you are misunderstanding how browsers work. What the server
app is seeing is a new login that replaces the first. This is the way
browsers work, and if it changed to the idea you have for it, then
millions of sites would suddenly fail to work; i.e. any site that
requires a new tab or window to be opened in order to function, like
banks, etc.
Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
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