Several years after the surgical removal of their alleged alien implants, five individuals courageously accepted to take part in an interview to discuss their “before and after effects”. All persons, one male and four females, shared one thing in common: UFO encounters and contact with non-human alien beings.

Dr. Roger Leir, a podiatrist from Thousand Oaks, California, founder of FIRST (Fund for Interactive Research and Space Technology) and Derrel Sims, C.Ht., R.H.A., a certified hypnotherapist , co-founder of FIRST and experienced UFO Investigator of over 27 year, orchestrated the successful surgeries with a team of competent medical professionals and volunteers. The first set of “implant” surgeries took place on August 19, 1995 at Dr. Roger Leir’s podiatry clinic in Thousand Oaks, California.

Pat Parrinellio, a 47 year old male from Houston, Texas, and Mary Jones (a pseudonym) 52, also from Texas, had the anomalous objects appear in X- rays, although both UFO experiencers had no record of previous surgeries. Both individuals were investigated by Derrel Sims of HUFON (Chief Investigator for Houston UFO Network) and referred to Dr. Roger Leir for surgery, based on their past UFO encounters and X-rays which confirmed the anomalous objects. Pat’s object was removed from the back of his left hand, and Mary’s objects excised from her left big toe. All services were performed free of charge. The alleged implants removed from the first set of surgeries were studied by two different pathologists, and then sent to various independent laboratories for extensive scientific analysis. The tests performed on these alleged alien implants were: a pathology/tissue evaluation, laser induced breakdown spectroscopy (LIBS), extensive metallurgical testing involving a density immersion test, X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy, scanning electron microscopy, X-ray diffraction pattern analysis and electron/magnetic and fluorescence property analysis. Isotopic range tests are also in progress. Tests were conducted by the National Institute of Discovery of Science (NIDS), New Mexico Tech, and other independent sources. But that is not all. While these unusual objects were being evaluated for scientific study, another set of implant surgeries took place on May 18, 1996. Two women from this second set of surgeries came forward for this interview and follow up study. Dorothy O’Hara, a 61 year old female from Palm Springs, California, and Alice Leavy , 40, from Newberry Park, California, each had similar objects removed from their left lower leg. Another woman, Licia Davidson, 37, who has had numerous UFO and alien encounters, had a rare, crystalline-like object removed from her foot in January of 1997.

Findings

“The findings of these implant surgeries are highly unusual,” reported Dr. Leir. “In all these cases, there was virtually no inflammatory response.” This is not the usual finding in foreign tissue reactions. Normally, foreign bodies embedded in tissues result in some type of acute or chronic inflammatory response, and may include fibrosis and cyst formation. Such was not the case here. The pathology reports of the first two surgeries revealed that the metallic objects were encased in a very dense, tough, grey membrane consisting of proteinaceous coagulum, hemoseridin and pure keratin. More simply, blood protein and skin cells that are usually found in the superficial layer of the skin. The tough, biological “cocoons” encasing the implants were also found to contain nerve proprioceptors – nerve and pressure cells of the wrong tissue type for that part of the body. These implant cocoons also fluoresced a bright green color in the presence of an ultraviolet light source. The implants from the two women from the second set of surgeries did not exhibit metallic properties like the implants from the first set of surgeries. In fact, the spheroid, whitish objects did not contain the tough, biological outer jackets, or fluoresce from a UV light source. These types of implants (possibly biological) also lacked the expected inflammatory response, according to the pathology reports. The crystalline-like object excised from the foot in the most recent surgery, also lacked the tough, grey, outer membrane and had virtually no inflammatory response, as in the other implant surgeries. Test results from the first set of implants revealed that the lammelar, needle shaped metallic objects in question are basically meteoric in origin, containing at least eleven different elements. In an interview with Alien Encounters Magazine, (July 1997 issue, United Kingdom) Derrel Sims commented on the uncommon, non-rejecting human response to the implants: “It seems that the dense fibrous membrane may have been the person’s own surface skin. If this is the case, it appears that the metallic objects are wrapped in a sheath of keratinaceous material (surface skin). Nerve fibers then surround the tissue and appear to be attached to larger nerves. The fact that both persons (from the first set of surgeries) objected verbally and physically could be an indication of this (nervous system) connection.” Mr. Sims believes the indications are very strong that these implants are extraterrestrial in origin. “But”, Mr. Sims concedes, “Whatever the scientists say who have examined the objects say, is what we will say.” Derrel Sims has stated that a scientific peer review of all tests must be done before more specifics can be released. This is the standard course of action taken in any scientific endeavor. Scientific evaluation is our best ally, but the experiences and opinions of the courageous individuals involved in these implant surgeries are equally important. A series of simple questions were posed to each of the participants. When asked as to how and when their implants might have been inserted, Pat Parrinellio from Houston, Texas believed his implant could have been inserted during a UFO encounter he had in 1954, at six years of age . Mary Jones recalls two UFO encounters when her metallic objects could have been implanted, in 1969. “In the first frightening UFO encounter”, Mary commented, “I was on a camping trip with my family while pregnant with my third child.” Oddly enough, one month after Mary’s child was born, she had another alien encounter while at home during the night. Conversely, Dorothy O’Hara from Palm Springs, California and Licia Davidson also from California both replied, “I have no idea when the object was inserted.” Alice Leavy commented that she first noticed the lump on her leg following a UFO encounter involving other witnesses in San Diego, in 1993. “I actually noticed the lump” Alice clarified, “when I discovered the scoop mark also on my left leg, after the UFO encounter.” If the alien “abductors” are responsible for implanting objects in the bodies of their abductees, then are the aliens cognizant of the fact that the implants have been removed? So the next question was posed, “Did you experience any UFO sightings, alien abductions, odd dreams, missing time or paranormal events just prior to, or after the implant surgery? (within a month)” Pat Parinellio revealed, “Yes, an unusual set of events took place with another witness involving an orange glowing UFO one evening about a week before the surgery. After the surgery, I noticed that my psychic abilities seemed to decrease.” Dorothy replied, “About a week before the surgery I had a dream-like, abduction experience involving many other people in a large locker room type facility, waiting in line for what seemed to be a shot in the backs of our necks. Also, right before an appointment to meet one of Derrel Sims’ associates for an interview (regarding the implant surgery), I and another women had a strange experience. It was like getting stuck in a time warp. I ended up being very late for the appointment. And then, late one evening after I returned from the surgery, I had an alien encounter, that I couldn’t clearly recall.” Both Licia and Alice did not recall any unusual events soon before or after the implant surgery. Mary experienced a rare, pain and swelling in her toe and foot about a week before the surgery. “At that time”, Mary revealed, “I knew exactly where the objects were in my foot, I could feel them.” Prior to that, Mary had no pain or sensations of that kind in her toe. “What was really strange,” Mary admitted, “was that the moment I stepped out of the car to meet Derrel Sims just prior to the surgery, my pain stopped.” The real question one may wonder about is: Now that the implants have been removed, will the aliens continue to come back and abduct the abductees? All individuals except Mary Jones were able to answer with a resounding, “Yes”. Alice elaborated on an abduction she had two months after the implant surgery, “I retired to bed early due to a headache. My husband awoke at 1:00 am because the whole bedroom lit up like daylight. He looked at the clock, reached over to touch me and found that I was gone. Paradoxically, my husband quickly went back to sleep. The next day I felt very ill. I don’t recall anything during the night, but I noticed the next day that my dog had nervously clawed several areas in the house, as if he were trying to escape something frightening.” As to changes in health, mood, dreams or psychic phenomena after the surgery, all five agreed as to some type of change. Mary Jones simply stated that she felt a sense of peace after her objects were removed. Dorothy commented, “I felt a tremendous sense of relief after the surgery.” Licia remarked, “Yes, I had a dramatic and immediate mood lift after the object was removed from my foot. I also stopped having the pain and the weird, watery sensation surrounding my foot.” The most striking changes were noted by Dorothy. ” I had a severe diuretic effect and lost much water weight a week following the surgery. Then my health progressively worsened and I developed angina and edema. This heart problem was a recurring complication from a previous illness I had in my late twenties. I also experienced extreme fatigue, and could not concentrate. The illness lasted about a month, after which my energy and health returned with more vigor. My creativity and mental clarity improved remarkably. ( I am a writer) I had a startling improvement in my memory where I was able to recall a previous alien abduction experience from 1991. In other words, it was the first time I was able to pierce through a screen memory from an abduction, although it took me three days to process the memory. It was difficult mentally and emotionally. In hindsight, after the implant surgery and recovery from illness, I felt detoxified.” Pat, on the other hand, noticed a more subjective change and simply stated, “Yes, a part of me which remains hidden has undergone quite a few changes of paradigms.” Alice and Dorothy shared a common symptom several months after their surgeries. Alice remarked, “About eight months afterwards, I had shooting pains in my left leg and noticed the implant scar turned bright red and hurt, and lasted for about a week. Also, around that same time period I had a strong, precognitive vision that later came true in exact detail.” Dorothy added, “Yes, I also noticed a strange reaction in my leg and implant scar about six months after the surgery. I felt shooting pains in my left leg, especially at the implant site. The incision scar turned bright red for about a month.” Could these changes in each of the individuals interviewed alter their views of the UFO phenomena after the fact? Pat admitted he was basically in denial about the UFO abduction phenomena previous to the surgery. “And yet,” Pat stated, “it seems like the more one becomes aware of the fact, the more I realize that I don’t know anything. But I do sense that something is accelerating.” Dorothy concurred with Pat in that she formerly believed the UFO phenomena was all nonsense. Afterwards Dorothy realized, “I have been able to work through many issues in my life, now that I am no longer in denial. Now I have a more practical and spiritual approach to life, and am more concerned with helping others in a practical sense, not promoting some New Age or metaphysical philosophy.” Mary also admitted she had no interest or knowledge of the UFO abduction phenomena previously. “Even now,” Mary added, ” I have no real interest in the UFO topic, yet cannot deny there is something to it.” Both Licia and Alice had a good knowledge and belief in the UFO abduction field. Licia stated that her views have not really changed. “The best way I can describe it,” Licia explained, “is that I have had a real powerful, extreme source of the highest of highs and the lowest of lows.” Alice admitted, “Previously, I felt the aliens were possibly evil. Now, after the surgery and as life and my abductions continue, I think the aliens just have a job to do. It’s not a good job. I think they are just following orders.” So, is the UFO community at large telling the whole truth about what really happens to abductees? Pat says, “Truth is subjective. I know there are a few researchers who are holding to the narrow line of finding out what is going on.” Alice agreed that for the most part, the abduction researchers are reporting things as they are experienced, but for one small exception. Some top researchers are not mentioning the apparent military involvement . Licia concurred with Alice, “Top researchers are touching on the major issues, but in my opinion, do not want to get involved in the government end of it.” Dorothy forthrightly stated, “Many people in the UFO community have their head in the clouds and believe in an overly benevolent, fanciful spiritual philosophy. There is not enough critical analysis. I have learned more from one on one conversations with other abductees than from the public lecture circuit.” As to the US government covering up UFO facts from the general public, all individuals agreed. Alice concluded, “Yes, especially the Roswell, New Mexico UFO incident of 1947. Most of the implantees described noteworthy mental, psychic or health related changes following their implant surgeries. Four of them reported a continuation of some type of alien abduction activity. The two women who had the “biological” type implants removed, experienced strikingly similar post surgical changes, involving shooting pains and reddening of the incision scar for a short period of time. The important thing to consider here, is the whole clinical picture. Over reliance on the physical test results of the implants alone are not substantial enough to solve the implant mystery – let alone the question of the alien presence. If not, then what is? The lives and experiences of the abductees themselves, tell us that we need to stop and listen. The answer lies somewhere in between science and the hearts of the people.

I went to a foot doctor for a problem with my left foot. My left foot became in flamed while at work and i could not walk on it. The doctor took xrays and I went back in to see him about the xrays. They could not find any thing wrong with my foot. I could not walk on it for around a week.the doctor asked me if I had any type of surgery on my left foot in the past and I told them no. they thought this was strange because I had an object about an inch or so long imbedded in my left big toe I looked at the xrays myself and saw the object on the out side of my left big toe. I can move my toe with no pain or any thing and feel nothing when I move my toe and bend it. The doctors thought this was very peculiar that I did not feel any thing. I think that there was something put there when I was young around seven or eight years old. I had a visit in the middle of the night by some type of being I do not know what. It was in human form and put me in a state that I could not move. It seemed to play on my emotions and made me think of my family and after several minutes it was gone and I could move again. After that a few weeks later some thing came into the basement where I was sleeping and was making the snow shovels that were hanging on the wall bang loudly and kept at it for several minutes. It finally stopped and I told my mother about the banging but not the visit.She did not believe me. I had two brothers that were in the room with me when all this happened. they did not wake up or see anything. When the shovels were banging my mom and one brother and three sisters were upstairs and did not hear it. I thought this was strange cause they were banging very loudly. I think I was implanted with something that night and just want to have this object taken out. I do not have email at this time so a phone is the best I can do for communicating at this time. 360 391 4820 thank you . lee marquette

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Paul

04/19/2014 5:00pm

Sorry to hear about your implant discovery. Has anyone responded to you? Have you had it removed?

I'm still not understanding why, when the implants are removed, it can't be CONCLUSIVELY decided whether or not they are of
extraterrestrial origin.
IF these are indeed tracking devices using materials that are
not if this earth, this should be provable and break the cover-up
of UFOs wide open.
The fact that this has not happened (yet) has me scratching my
head.

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Steven G

04/27/2014 10:24am

Lois, The more you look into this alien thing the more you realize how difficult of a brick wall there is to overcome with the general population, skeptics, paid bashers, debunkers and even governments that want to prevent the truth to be revealed. I believe a lot of people have lost their lives attempting to expose what is going on with this alien mystery. I also believe it is no mystery to a lot of people in the know.

Because I have been obsessed with this topic since the mid 1970s and have memories of a few "weird" experiences I desperately want to know the truth. MUFON is a very good source of reliable information I trust in my quest for the truth. If not for my disability I would join them in their quest for the truth.

We are getting closer every day to the truth.

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Lois

04/27/2014 5:43pm

I DO believe that alien implants, along with other UFO phenomena,
is going on.
It is just beyond frustrating that the media (and top politicians/scientists) are so ignoring all the evidence.
It is an even worse situation than I thought if people who are active in Ufology may be even risking their lives from the "black budgeters".
I just wonder if the truth will ever come out.

Just the fact that ET has used deceitful tactics ( screen memories, shapeshifting visuals like elves, owls, religious or past loved ones) and the fact they do not want to tell us where they are from (always different claims) is proof enough they are here selfishly for themselves. They don`t care about the abductees related psychological fall-outs which makes me question their spiritualism.
They haven`t help change the tendency of cancer which is on the increase. If they are older than us then maybe future technology will also make us less spiritual in the future. I also believe that due to observed hierarchy of aliens onboard during abductions that we may have not seen or met the actual organizers of abductions on Sol3 (earth) (see studies of Dr. Corado Malanga -Italy).
My study on the matter reveals that tha abduction phenomena goes beyond the need of genetics and that of temporary memory transfer to trick our soul energy for usage. The seem to use trickery in order to get free will of usage of this energy.
The fact that they lie about alot ( see studies of Karla Turner and Barbara Bartholic) makes me suspect it is because they are vulnerable but don`t want us to know how.
Jacques Vallee found many sightings reports in history he was not able to debunk or disqualify that had witnesses say they saw ufos fighting in the air around 200-600 A.D. If we can answer why these aerial fights are not seen anymore with all of today`s sightings will tell us alot imo.
I also am led to believe we are dealing with more than one phenomena all using UFO phenomena as a tool:
1) The fallen angels dropped on earth who according to the bible have an agenda. Physical entities who live a long time. Simply put advanced society rejects who have been sentenced here on Sol3 as the Brits did to Australia with their colonization of prisonners.
2) Inter-dimensional entities who cannot get to the next level. possibly the afterlife energy of the dead fallen angels.
3) Man made reverse engineered crafts used by power hungry humans (NWO, Iluminatti)
4) MILABS (military abductions) trying to catch up with the above groups by following their trail.
5) malevolant ET races using cloning and genetics preparing to do once again a reseeding after a another coming worldly catastrophy - just like making land stakes and cattle branding - first one doing it gets rights for the next cycle.
6) benevolant ET's which I doubt - why would anyone with good spiritual intentions want to alter and manipulate human freewill which is the driving force for soul evolvement ?
Any comments ?

Neutron,
I find your comments fascinating, it is obvious you are well read on subjects of such matters.
I'm looking forward to reading up on some of the info/names you dropped. Thanks for taking the time to write all that, much appreciated.
I had an online friend years ago with the same nickname...I don't suppose you live in Florida?
....small world.
~Nancy

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Brenda

05/17/2014 10:41pm

Very well educated in subject. Have you read :THE URANTIA BOOK. Once out of this body, we are spirit so look from that point of view on any object off world. Doesn't it seem strange that we have such a different global coverage of being and animal's. My ancestor's tell the truth- (native American and others tribe's) We were brought here.

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sue

07/13/2014 5:24pm

I've been discussing the deceitful nature of these aliens for 4 years on radio wnir 100.1fm kentoh. I have warned people of the evil agenda -- those who claim to be benevolent aliens here to help us while actually. Enslaving us. Keeping us from god. Jesus. Ileft my job as a new paper reporter because of depression and post traumatic stress disorder from 3 life traumas. In counseling for 26 years. Compelled to read UFO material for all 26 years.

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Dustin

07/10/2014 1:52pm

Sorry, I just really want to know about what exactly those pulsating tinnitus like 'noises' are?

I have them in both my ears, sometimes, and I can control the rate and frequency of the pulses almost as easily as any muscle reflexes.....?

I only hear them when I am in a bad place, or I feel like I am threatened (psychically?) and sometimes I can use them to isolate and control thoughts that just don't seem like they belong.

I don't know, I don't know where or who else to ask about these.

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Patrick

09/22/2014 2:14pm

Okay I have no memory of being abducted. But i have something in my left foot that i believe is and implant. who would i need to talk about getting this thing out.

I am MUFON's Director of Abduction Research and read your question on MUFON's blog. If you can feel a lump in your body that you do not believe should be there, please contact your physician. You don't have to mention that you suspect it is an alien implant. Simply ask your doctor to check it out. There can be many medical explanations that do not involve alien abduction.

Best wishes,

Kathleen Marden
MUFON Director of Abduction Research

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Patrick

09/22/2014 5:40pm

Yes I am going to see a podiatrist in the morning, when I was around 6 or 7 I have a memory that my mother says didn't happen. I remember being at a doctors office or hospital the doctor comes in the room , whatever I had went for was alright but the doctor asked if I had ever step on a needle or something because he could see it on the x ray but of course I don't and didn't at the time he said that if it was in my heal he would have to try and take it out but where it was located that it would move to the top of my foot and it could be removed then . But it never did I can feel it and feels more like a capsule than a needle. Never bothers me. But after seeing dr lier's removal of implants it has made me wonder since my mother says I never went to the doctor for any X-ray near my foot

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Patrick

09/24/2014 1:33pm

okay went to the doctor and got the x rays.There is 2 needle shaped metal objects kinda in the shape of a y in the the center of the bottem of my left foot.

Alec

09/23/2014 1:19pm

I just had a similar piece of “metal” that was magnetic,meteorite looking removed from my right thumb..I never knew it was there until an xray showed it..before it was removed you could kind of see it under the skin and feel the slight bump it created..I never had an injury there,no scar,no trauma,and even with this “metal” no pain..I had it removed so I could get an MRI for my back since the first attempt was stopped due to the magnet pulling the item in my thumb..When it was removed the other day by a surgeon I asked if I could keep it..He obliged and noted that the object “was strange” When i looked up alien implants out of curiosity,I was socked to see that several of the foreign bodies removed by Dr Leir were EXACTLY alike..Now I’m freaked out because I don’t believe in huge coincidences

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Steven G

09/23/2014 4:18pm

Alec, Welcome to the nightmare that according to our government does not exist.

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Steven G

09/23/2014 4:20pm

Alec, Welcome to the nightmare that according to our government does not exist. On the bright side...you can now enjoy MRI scans if you are not claustrophobic lol

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jimmy wright

10/20/2014 7:48pm

I have a implant and I want it removed

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Anne

10/31/2014 6:37pm

Hello...

As a teenager I felt as if "they" were trying to abduct me, as I would be paralyzed while sleeping and could see them in my bedroom. I attempted to use mind control back at them to make them leave. I don't think I was always successful because one time I went to the dentist and all of a sudden had a piece of metal in my jaw. It's been there for around 15 years now, dentists always ask right away if I was shot in the face with a BB, when I tell them no they look closer thinking it's what they call an amalgam tattoo. They then realize that's not the case...they also don't think it's in a location for a piece of a dental tool to get lost in.

No dentist or doctor can describe it and often they'll half chuckle and tell me it's an alien implant.

I'm saddened to hear of Dr. Lier's passing as I hoped to have it removed someday. Is there anyone else who is doing this sort of work?

Anne

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Steven G

11/01/2014 9:34am

Anne, I think I have an implant in my foot on the top and just behind my big toe. When I was having spinal xrays taken I asked if they would take one of my food. They said the insurance would not allow for it.

If you find another doctor that is continuing where Dr. Lier left please post it as I have all the warning signs of being abducted. Because I have an analytical mind I can not be hypnotized. Tried it two times and both times I was not able to be put under. The last time was by a highly respected hypnotist.

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Anne

11/01/2014 11:10am

I suspect they won't cover an xray of an area that the doctor didn't order to be xrayed... Any decent doctor will order an xray of an area that you request. I think if you said you think you have an alien implant they might think you're nuts though. I'd just say it hurts and leave it at that.

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dave

12/25/2014 5:45pm

I have a lump in the ball of my left index finger that has been present since 1979. I always thought it was just a cyst. Recently I was playing with some super magnets and discovered that the "cyst" is metallic and is substantial enough for a magnet to stick to it.

I do not remember a specific encounter experience near the time this object became apparent or prior to that but I had believed in UFO's since childhood.

I did have a broad daylight UFO close sighting observed by others in 1992 though and had a feeling that the UFO was noticing me.

It is not uncommon for people to find lumps on their bodies and wonder if they have an alien implant. They wonder if MUFON can assist them by removing the object and having it examined by scientists. I’m writing to explain MUFON’s protocols for the removal of artifacts.
1. Visit www.mufon.com and complete the “Experiencer Questionnaire” under the “Research’ heading. This is a screening device, so you can determine what you have in common with experiencers. You can request to be contacted by a member of MUFON’s Abduction Research Team to discuss your events and what to expect from a MUFON investigation.
2. A formal MUFON investigation is required as a prerequisite to the removal of any artifact. The artifact should relate directly to a UFO or abduction experience and should not have been present prior to the experience. Your field investigator will want to narrow your discovery of the artifact to a specific time and place, if possible.
3. If you have the information mentioned above, and MUFON determines that the removal of your artifact is a priority, we’ll ask you to undergo a psychological evaluation by a licensed mental health professional. This will be done at your own expense and your records will need to be released to your field investigator. They can remain confidential.
4. We’ll ask you to submit a complete medical history to your field investigator. This will require a medical release of information from your physician. Your physician will need to prepare a detailed, preoperative report containing his or her conclusions and recommendations. You’ll need X-rays, and EEG, etc. Your field investigator will have the protocols. This will be done at your expense by your physician.
5. You will need to undergo the preoperative procedures recommended by your physician for a surgical procedure. This will be done at your expense.
6. MUFON has chain of custody procedures that need to be followed precisely. MUFON will be involved in all steps of your investigation and the recovery of the artifact. Your field investigator will need to get approval before anything is done. If all goes well up to this point, your field investigator will follow MUFON’s chain of custody procedures for the scientific evaluation of your artifact by collecting it and sending it to the proper authorities. Never send evidence to MUFON without following our protocols. It will not be evaluated.

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May

02/10/2015 10:17pm

I contacted a paranormal researcher about alien implants I removed myself. He sent me to MUFON and they could care less what I have. They won't even reply. My implants are the only ones of their kind known to exist in the world. Under magnification, they contain microchips, circuitry, alien artwork and bizarre symbols. I have more than enough proof of their authenticity, but the so called investigators cannot accept any shocking reality that goes beyond all human imagination. Because it sounds so far fetched, they refuse to believe it, so I continue to hold the most amazing technological marvel ever discovered, If I do get to share my findings with humanity, you will see before your unbelieving eyes, the ultimate smoking gun of alien existence, and the truth will be revealed at last.

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jmpet

01/02/2015 4:14pm

I see the article goes into great detail about peoples' loss of psychic powers upon the removal of a probe but nothing on the probe itself. And this is an 18 year old article, yet it says more research is needed. Well it's been 18 years.

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Steven G

01/03/2015 12:00am

jmpet,

You do not have to look very hard or long to find current info for alien abduction information. In fact, the topic is really gaining steam. Just be careful an choosy to what you accept as the truth. I have learned that aliens have the ability to put false memories in our heads. So even when someone reports what they think happened to them during an abduction it may not be what really happened. It may be what the aliens want us to believe. Makes this whole topic confusing. I also find it fascinating and interesting. How many times can we search for facts and when we find the facts we learn they may be facts but then again not really...Interesting, eh?