there is another angle i think we haven't discussed maybe he hasn't left this planet at all, maybe he has opened a new account with ATS and is
contributing to his own post with a different name?

No I dont think so, there does not appear to be any one here as sensitive as he. No one speaks with the same tone. I do not think he is on this
thread. I also didnt get the impression from him it was attention he wanted, more just trying to get across his thoughts and experiences, and possible
worries.

Originally posted by Religion
I have made final arrangements, months of planning and debating and a species of Greys have finally accepted. I will taken to a planet, far away in
another solar system, habitable with oxygen and h20, among various animal species like none you or I have ever seen before. It will take approximately
23 days and 13 hours for arrival, and I will go through my journey in suspended animation. I am, however, not the first human being to be taken to
permanently stay on another planet, but I am one of the first. Tonight I will spend quite sometime watching, and waiting before the stars for my ride
to arrive.

Good luck to Earth and all of you believers. You're going to need it come soon.

Now, as far as I'm concerned this is obvious science fiction coming from a human mind who wants attention, but I understand there are minds out there
that are desperate for something more in life than just boring human existence. I will simply ask those minds to put aside their belief and read this
story without bias. Then I want you to recall every last bit of science fiction you've ever read or watched and we all know that we've all done both
with the vast interest in aliens, and tell me you don't believe this story has classic story telling elements of drama in it.

There's a huge difference between legit people who believe what they're saying whether or not it be true, and bogus people telling a story. And I'm
probably not helping by spelling this out as hoaxers will adjust their stories to make them more believable in the future, but it's got to be said.
Don't waste your energy believing this.

Why am I not surprised to see this thread still going. Well I wanted to add my 2 cents anywas. O and so I am "on-topic" hummm what color is the
spaceship going to be Religion? O wait you left almost a week ago nvm.

From what I've read so far, many items in Aliens should be here, and many items here should be in Skunk, and most items in Skunk should be in Hoax.

I do hope the OP is ok, but no, I don't think he is on his way anywhere. Thankfully most agree, although perhaps some should disagree with a bit
less of a nasty tone.

But regardless, I can understand the ire of some, since it's stories like these that will keep any respectable group of scientists from touching UFOs
with a 20 meter pole any time soon. When the media says it's a joke, the government says it doesn't exist, and half of those who are interested,
are apparently intimately involved with aliens, the field loses a lot of credibility.

Now, as far as I'm concerned this is obvious science fiction coming from a human mind who wants attention, but I understand there are minds out there
that are desperate for something more in life than just boring human existence.

The human existance is not one of bordom. You must understand to think this is negative, many things are available to humans all of which are not
boring in the slightest, you just need to search and look for all that we have.

Boring it is not, the things we can seek are so exciting and beyong belief I make it my goal to find them.

Originally posted by fleabitsince it's stories like these that will keep any respectable group of scientists from touching UFOs with a
20 meter pole any time soon. When the media says it's a joke, the government says it doesn't exist, and half of those who are interested, are
apparently intimately involved with aliens, the field loses a lot of credibility.

Don't you guys ever get tired of that story line?

I hardly think something posted by someone in a thread in the GRAY AREA of ATS is likely to effect one bit how mainstream science will handle
UFO's

However main stream science IS working hard on creating things that would seem to most to be from Aliens... things like Looking Glass that can see
into the future, gravity shielding and warp drives... even triangular flying craft that do not require ailerons to steer because they use plasma
actuators

What the UFO community does or does not do has ZERO effect on what the scientists are doing

Perhaps if one of these crashes happened downtown in rush hour, we would see some coverage

But then we don't test these babies over populated areas

(the Laughlin one got out of hand... but hey they had that covered in 17 minutes flat)

BTW what exactly are YOU doing to help promote better quality threads on UFO's etc? Lets see some of your research

Originally posted by fleabitsince it's stories like these that will keep any respectable group of scientists from touching UFOs with a
20 meter pole any time soon. When the media says it's a joke, the government says it doesn't exist, and half of those who are interested, are
apparently intimately involved with aliens, the field loses a lot of credibility.

Don't you guys ever get tired of that story line?

I hardly think something posted by someone in a thread in the GRAY AREA of ATS is likely to effect one bit how mainstream science will handle
UFO's

However main stream science IS working hard on creating things that would seem to most to be from Aliens... things like Looking Glass that can see
into the future, gravity shielding and warp drives... even triangular flying craft that do not require ailerons to steer because they use plasma
actuators

What the UFO community does or does not do has ZERO effect on what the scientists are doing

Perhaps if one of these crashes happened downtown in rush hour, we would see some coverage

But then we don't test these babies over populated areas

(the Laughlin one got out of hand... but hey they had that covered in 17 minutes flat)

BTW what exactly are YOU doing to help promote better quality threads on UFO's etc? Lets see some of your research

Zorgon, are you typically this contrary and annoying? Or just having an off day? If you want to debate or discuss why you think my ideas are bunk,
that's fine, but there is no need to act like an ass. I don't care to play those games in forums, I grew tired of that over a decade ago.

If you fail to see how the topic of UFOs is a joke to mainstream media and the general public, that's your problem. It's been noted by researches
(including Stanton Friedman), that until this topic is taken more seriously, it will garner no serious attention. When a newscast about war, an
explosion, espionage, or any other known and accepted issue is covered, the anchors are serious. Whenever a topic of UFOs is brought up, and I see
this every single time, the anchors have a smirk or smile going. They think it's a "funny" topic to cover.

I actually watch for this now. Just before the last Larry King show, the anchor from the previous newscast asked him what he was going to cover on
his show. He told her about the UFO show, and her next responses were all with a barely contained smirk. It's obvious what the media think.

And who can blame them, when many of the stories we hear about are are nutcases with ridiculous theories. Heaven's Gate anyone?

If your opinion is "nothing we can do about it, so why worry," that's fine. I don't choose to take that route. I will speak out against what I
feel are ridiculous ideas or ludicrous premises whenever I can. I don't think they help the field, but rather are a detriment. How much proof of
that do I have? I'd say at least as much as your idea that this means nothing at all to scientists.

As far as linking a thread I made about a weird thing I heard on the radio as an attempt to irritate me, save your time and breath. Unlike many, I
don't care about flags, stars, points, attentin, or anything like that. Notice my clever signature? Thats' right.. there is none. Nor image, nor
link, or anything else, because I am just here to listen to and engage in talk over various subjects that interest me. Save your childish games for
someone who cares to engage in such stupidity. As far as that thread went, I posted it because it was weird, and I posted it in a forum that hosted
that sort of thing. I could care less if it garnered any attention.

For what it's worth, you don't have the ability to upset or irritate me, so save your time and effort. Either engage in intelligent chatter, or
don't bother responding.

Originally posted by fleabit
I don't care to play those games in forums, I grew tired of that over a decade ago.

And yet you continue to do so almost every post I have seen

It's been noted by researches (including Stanton Friedman), that until this topic is taken more seriously, it will garner no serious
attention.

Well listening to Stanton Friedman is hardly a help... for example what he did to Bob Lazar... yet Bob is currently back working at Los Alamos. So I
wouldn't put much stock in SF.

When a newscast about war, an explosion, espionage, or any other known and accepted issue is covered, the anchors are serious. Whenever a topic of
UFOs is brought up, and I see this every single time, the anchors have a smirk or smile going. They think it's a "funny" topic to cover.

A war or explosion has incontrovertible evidence... A war produces dead bodies, explosions leave holes... kinda hard to miss those... but show me one
case just ONE of a UFO that someone can take seriously?

But here is my issue with people like you (nothing personal) and broad statements like that... If you would actually spend time and research material
you would find that media indeed is taking it seriously when there is something concrete to report on

Look at this video from FOX and CNN

Show me where the news caster is laughing
Show me where they are not taking it seriously
In fact this news caster is OBVIOUSLY pushing the value of this footage

Why? Becuase there is HARD EVIDENCE from a military
UFOs - FOX News - Mexican Air Force - CNN News

I actually watch for this now. Just before the last Larry King show, the anchor from the previous newscast asked him what he was going to cover on
his show. He told her about the UFO show, and her next responses were all with a barely contained smirk. It's obvious what the media think.

what is OBVIOUS is that you don't look to closely... in this Larry King show the only single skeptic is made to look like a total Moron (kinda looks
like Jim Oberg

) but they are doing a very serious interview

Larry King-UFOs:ARE THEY REAL? 1 of 6

And who can blame them, when many of the stories we hear about are are nutcases with ridiculous theories. Heaven's Gate anyone?

Well I have seen you post in most of the anomaly threads and always its a smartass comment.. I have yet to see you post any evidence in support of
anything... yet look at the posting record of people like Mike Singh... he is conspiracy Master because people are getting something of value from his
and others material and heightening awareness...

A thread like this... in an area of the board set up specifically for the less believable posts will hardly effect the world... and at the same time,
by mods moving threads here from the mainstream board cleans up these threads yet allows people to still post wild ideas...

That was the whole purpose of making this area... something between Skunkworks and mainstream board topics hence the GRAY AREA...

If your opinion is "nothing we can do about it, so why worry," that's fine. I don't choose to take that route. I will speak out against what I
feel are ridiculous ideas or ludicrous premises whenever I can. I don't think they help the field, but rather are a detriment. How much proof of
that do I have? I'd say at least as much as your idea that this means nothing at all to scientists.

Well I for one spend many hours a day making people aware of thing here at ATS... your method is to speak out against what YOU think is ludicrous.
And while doing so you keep bumping threads like this, thus having the opposite effect

Why not try looking for youtube videos like the ones
above that present a good case? Look for reports that sound plausible? Then be part of the solution rather than part of the problem

Unlike many, I don't care about flags, stars, points, attentin, or anything like that. Notice my clever signature? Thats' right.. there
is none. Nor image, nor link, or anything else, because I am just here to listen to and engage in talk over various subjects that interest
me.

Well the flags etc tell me when I have posted something of value to the membership. When a thread gets no attention, I know it is no longer worth my
time and I find better material.

Save your childish games for someone who cares to engage in such stupidity.

Well this post of yours, especially quoting my whole post, shows me that indeed you have engage in my 'game'. You could simply have walked away and
said nothing.

As far as that thread went, I posted it because it was weird, and I posted it in a forum that hosted that sort of thing. I could care less if it
garnered any attention.

That's fine... so why is this thread any different?

For what it's worth, you don't have the ability to upset or irritate me, so save your time and effort.

Oh yeah... I struck a nerve... This was the longest post I have seen you make

My friends, do not be so hard o this posters. For you have to remember where it is that you are posting. You are posting in a place that anyone from
anywhere in the entire world could be visiting. You have to remember that there are tragedies of life that exist within the real world that are too
horrible to image in their entirely.

There are stories of children that were taken after their parents were murdered and placed in cages and tortured from the time they were four years
old later being rescued by chance when they were sixteen. Afterward, they are forced to exist in a foster home abruptly trying to exist in the real
world they can no longer comprehend.

What false reality would you entertain to escape from such torment? What dreams would you insist must be reality for they are the only dreams that
comfort you?

Weather of not the poster has lived such a tragedy is not the point. The point is that whatever he or she has experienced it is enough to say that
they feel that the only person in the entire universe who could possibly understand is someone who isn’t from this world. Is it really so hard to
understand? Have not many of us felt that no one could possibly understand our troubles?

Be kind my friends, for that is Christ’s command to us. We all have our cross to bear and it is not for us to say or complain that one persons is
lighter or heavier than anothers.

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