Most of the people who came here, they came
from a better starting point in Ireland. This
is something we found out talking to the Irish
here but also talking to some people who studied
the Irish in Ireland.

The States, as you know, had also devices to
induce emigrants to go to the States, while
those who came here had to have some sort
of means to be able to engage in some ...
even to be able to be indebted with someone
who paid the ticket.