I wouldn't call pop-punk alternative either, but really I think DDD has too broad of scape in concerning what "alternative" is.

I mean David Bowie? Really? Might as well include the Beatles. Velvet Underground I can actually see since they were noise rock. The Stooges though? Hard Rock.

I thought Pere Ubu was post-punk.

I do think you have a point though, I've got to say, I'm starting to think Bowie shouldn't be on here either. Personally, I think it's more to do with post-punk, noise, indie etc. I'm not that sure about punk either.

Punk =/= alternative because they are two separate movements anyway. Its not like every movement that rebels against the norm is alternative. Obviously, with any other genre you'll have crossovers, but punk rock shouldn't be shelved under alternative rock.

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