Outlands College of Heralds

UNTO the Outlands College of Heralds, our respected friends and
colleagues who give freely of their time to provide commentary, and all
others who come by these letters, on
this 8th day of October, A.S. xxxxii (2007 CE), does Maestra
Francesca
di
Pavia
send greetings on behalf of The Honourable Lady Marie de Blois, White
Stag Principal
Herald.

Here follows the Kingdom of the Outlands Letter of Presentation for
October 2007. Your comments and suggestions
are always welcome. Errors found herein are
undoubtedly mine.

Anyone may comment upon the items found herein, and e-mail
commentary to the herald's commentary list is encouraged. Please have
comments
on items contained herein to the White Stag Principal Herald
by November 10, 2007, for the decision meeting tentatively
scheduled for November 11, 2007.

1. Acelin Mackenzie. New name
and device. Sable, upon a cross
clechy argent a skull gules.
(Dragonsspine) No boxes
checked.
Acelin: Withycombe, English Christian Names, pg. 2, lists Acelin as a masculine name, a
diminutive of Old French Asce,
dated in this spelling to 1273.
Mackenzie: Reany & Wilson, " A Dictionary of English Surnames", pg
292, header Mackenzie, dated
to 1264 (though not in this spelling).

2. Carlos Nieto de
Andrade. New name and device. Per
chevron azure and argent, three mullets one and two and in base a Cross
of Santiago gules within a bordure embattled
counterchanged.

(Citadel of the Southern Pass) Gender: Male. Submitter
cares most about the language/culture of the name, defined as 14th-15th
Century Galician/Castilian. Changes accepted.

4. Jamila
al-Zuhayriyyah. New name and device. Per
pale gules and azure, four quatrefoils in cross argent.

(Citadel of the Southern Pass) Gender: Female. Submitter
cares most about the language/culture of the name, defined as Arabic.
Changes
accepted.

The name was constructed using “period Arabic Names and
Naming Practices” by Ad’ud ibn Auda (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/arabic-naming2.htm).
The name consists if an ism + nisba
(of descent).
Jamila: female given name (ism)
Al-Zuhayriyyah – nisba
(of descent), cognomen feminized to show “daughter of the tribe of
Zuhayr”.

5. Ravenhyrst,
Canton of. Branch name and device resubmission. Sable, a pile throughout Or, in pale a
raven displayed sable and a laurel wreath counterchanged.
(Canton of Caerthe) No major
changes accepted.
The previous submission, Raven Hyrst,
was returned on the April
2007 Letter of Response, for lack of a proper petition. The
associated device, Or, two gussets sable, overall a laurel wreath
counterchanged, in chief a raven displayed sable, was returned for
multiple style issues, as well as a lack of a name with which to submit
it.
"Hyrst", meaning "a wooded hill" or "ornament, decoration, jewel" is
found in Clark Hall's A Concise
Anglo-Saxon Dictionary Second Edition (http://www.ling.upenn.edu/~kurisuto/germanic/oe_clarkhall_about.html,
tiff 173), and the Anglo-Saxon
Dictionary by Bosworth and Toller (1898) (http://lexicon.ff.cuni.cz/html/oe_bosworthtoller/b0584.html),
pg. 584: "hyrst, es; m. A hurst, copse, wood. The word
occurs most frequently in compounds, e.g. hnut-hyrst,
æsc-hyrst, etc. , and is still found as hurst in
names of places." Common period usage of the word can be found, for
example in Beowulf: http://www.georgetown.edu/labyrinth/library/oe/texts/a4.1.html.
- see lines 672, 2255, 2762, 2988, and 3164. An example of Hyrst
occurring as part of a placename in period is the Priory of Hyrst,
which dates to the 12th Century (see "Dugdale's Monasticon v.6 pt. 1",
in Monasticon Anglicanum: a History
of the Abbies and other Monasteries, Hospitals, Frieries, and Cathedral
and Collegiate Churches, with their Dependencies, in England and Wales
by Sir William Dugdale (London: Longman, Hurst, Rees, Orme & Brown,
1817-1830, pg 100: http://monasticmatrix.usc.edu/bibliographia/index.php?function=detail&id=8006).
A History of the County of Lincoln
(http://www.british-history.ac.uk/source.asp?pubid=201),
chapter 33, also discusses this Priory. Evidence that "hyrst" was used
in period as a place name in combination with the name of a bird is
found in the village known today as Crowhurst, which dates to the 8th
century as Croghyrst (http://www.villagenet.co.uk/pevenseylevels/villages/crowhurst.php):
"The village is first mentioned in 771 as Croghyrst, when King Offa of
Mercia, gave the Bishop of Selsey 8 hides (a measurement of area)
within the village. In return, the Bishop built a church for the
population."
Petitions signed by all six officers of the Canton in favor of
the name and device were included with the original submission.
Additional petitions, including one signed by the Baroness of Caerthe,
are included. The device is a complete redesign.

6. Seamus Macrae. Name
resubmission.
(Dragonsspine) No boxes
checked.
The first submission, Séamus
MacDhùghaill, was returned on the October
2006 Letter of Acceptance and Response for conflict with Seamus
mac Dubhghaill, registered June, 2006. The most recent submission, Seamus MacCrae, was returned on the June
2007 Letter of Response: "Commenters state that O'Corrain &
Maguire indicates that the form [Séamus] is a pre-12th C form.
Please note the accent. Commenters also indicate that Black shows that
the spelling [MacCrae] was not used until 1684, and beyond our cutoff
and "gray area" for documentation. Under [MACRAE] Black lists lots of
forms from the 13th C. onwards. While Rampart could adjust the surname
to a period form using an allowed major/minor change, it is felt that
the client would be better served by reviewing Black and selecting a
form that they will be happiest with, as opposed to potentially
registering something the client is not happy with and requiring an
addition a submission fee to change it. Name returned for rework."
Seamus: O'Corrain & Maguire, "Irish Names", p. 163, does not
clearly date the name. It also does not list this exact spelling - the
documented version is Séamus.
Macrae: Reany & Wilson, " A Dictionary of English Surnames",
pg 293, header Macrae. No
dated examples for this spelling.