‘BORIS Island’ has been rejected by aviation chiefs as too expensive and economically harmful.

The Thames Estuary Airport proposal, strongly backed by the Mayor of London, was turned down by the Airports Commission today.

Had the four-runway superhub on the Isle of Grain opposite Southend been accepted, it would have led to the closure of Southend, City and Heathrow airports.

Commission chairman Sir Howard Davies said it recognised the need for a new hub but that it should be part of a competing network of airports.

He said: “The economic disruption would be huge and there are environmental hurdles which it may prove impossible, or very time-consuming to surmount."

He also cited cost as a reason for rejecting the scheme as, at £70-90 billion for the least ambitious scheme, it far outstripped any other proposal.

Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London, maintained the idea was “not dead” but was quick to express his disappointment.

He said: "In one myopic stroke the Airports Commission has set the debate back by half a century and consigned their work to the long list of vertically filed reports on aviation expansion that are gathering dust on a shelf in Whitehall.”

I’m all for change but it’s too congested in the south, it’s all well and good building a new airport but we all know the roads and public transport infrastructure could never cope with the extra load.

I’m all for change but it’s too congested in the south, it’s all well and good building a new airport but we all know the roads and public transport infrastructure could never cope with the extra load.thecoat

England desperately needs a new hub airport to boost economic growth. the political drive seems to be non existent. Our hopes for the future seem to be restricted to.

1) don't build any new rail or road infrastructure,
2) It cant cost too much,
3) not before an election,
4) It mustn't disturb current airport operations,
5) it cant be too bold or challenging,

the UK has not built any major new transport infrastructure for at least ten years. we are choking off our future.

England desperately needs a new hub airport to boost economic growth. the political drive seems to be non existent. Our hopes for the future seem to be restricted to.
1) don't build any new rail or road infrastructure,
2) It cant cost too much,
3) not before an election,
4) It mustn't disturb current airport operations,
5) it cant be too bold or challenging,
the UK has not built any major new transport infrastructure for at least ten years. we are choking off our future.jayman

Thank goodness for that! It was only ever a vanity project. I'm sure he wanted nothing more than to go down in history with everyone calling the airport "Boris Island". A narcissist of the first order, methinks!

Thank goodness for that! It was only ever a vanity project. I'm sure he wanted nothing more than to go down in history with everyone calling the airport "Boris Island". A narcissist of the first order, methinks!heartbeat

jayman wrote:
England desperately needs a new hub airport to boost economic growth. the political drive seems to be non existent. Our hopes for the future seem to be restricted to.

1) don't build any new rail or road infrastructure,
2) It cant cost too much,
3) not before an election,
4) It mustn't disturb current airport operations,
5) it cant be too bold or challenging,

the UK has not built any major new transport infrastructure for at least ten years. we are choking off our future.

High Speed 1 Crossrail and Lodon Overground were major infrastructure projects.

[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote:
England desperately needs a new hub airport to boost economic growth. the political drive seems to be non existent. Our hopes for the future seem to be restricted to.
1) don't build any new rail or road infrastructure,
2) It cant cost too much,
3) not before an election,
4) It mustn't disturb current airport operations,
5) it cant be too bold or challenging,
the UK has not built any major new transport infrastructure for at least ten years. we are choking off our future.[/p][/quote]High Speed 1 Crossrail and Lodon Overground were major infrastructure projects.scrounger‎

jayman wrote:
England desperately needs a new hub airport to boost economic growth. the political drive seems to be non existent. Our hopes for the future seem to be restricted to.

1) don't build any new rail or road infrastructure,
2) It cant cost too much,
3) not before an election,
4) It mustn't disturb current airport operations,
5) it cant be too bold or challenging,

the UK has not built any major new transport infrastructure for at least ten years. we are choking off our future.

High Speed 1 Crossrail and Lodon Overground were major infrastructure projects.

HS1 was started (in planning) in 1996 in fact it was originally planned by British rail, London overground has been continually upgraded or extended since the Victorian era and cross-rail has taken years of development, planning and construction.

There is nothing realistic in the pipeline. HS2 will probably take years before the ground is broken for the project.

At the hight of Chinese economic growth they where building a power station every day. Here in the UK we cant manage a new lower Thames crossing (that we need) without constant political floundering. HS2 hasn't even been started and it looks as if were going to bolt on some airport capacity onto one of our crowded airports.

[quote][p][bold]scrounger‎[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote:
England desperately needs a new hub airport to boost economic growth. the political drive seems to be non existent. Our hopes for the future seem to be restricted to.
1) don't build any new rail or road infrastructure,
2) It cant cost too much,
3) not before an election,
4) It mustn't disturb current airport operations,
5) it cant be too bold or challenging,
the UK has not built any major new transport infrastructure for at least ten years. we are choking off our future.[/p][/quote]High Speed 1 Crossrail and Lodon Overground were major infrastructure projects.[/p][/quote]HS1 was started (in planning) in 1996 in fact it was originally planned by British rail, London overground has been continually upgraded or extended since the Victorian era and cross-rail has taken years of development, planning and construction.
There is nothing realistic in the pipeline. HS2 will probably take years before the ground is broken for the project.
At the hight of Chinese economic growth they where building a power station every day. Here in the UK we cant manage a new lower Thames crossing (that we need) without constant political floundering. HS2 hasn't even been started and it looks as if were going to bolt on some airport capacity onto one of our crowded airports.jayman

Our skies become more and more overcrowded ground control pushed to the limit near misses have become routine.
And there’s the environmental cost air travel its not going to be subsidised by the tax payer forever what are we going to do?
Apparently nothing.

Our skies become more and more overcrowded ground control pushed to the limit near misses have become routine.
And there’s the environmental cost air travel its not going to be subsidised by the tax payer forever what are we going to do?
Apparently nothing.ORACUS

jayman wrote:
England desperately needs a new hub airport to boost economic growth. the political drive seems to be non existent. Our hopes for the future seem to be restricted to.

1) don't build any new rail or road infrastructure,
2) It cant cost too much,
3) not before an election,
4) It mustn't disturb current airport operations,
5) it cant be too bold or challenging,

the UK has not built any major new transport infrastructure for at least ten years. we are choking off our future.

Crossrail is being built right now.

[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote:
England desperately needs a new hub airport to boost economic growth. the political drive seems to be non existent. Our hopes for the future seem to be restricted to.
1) don't build any new rail or road infrastructure,
2) It cant cost too much,
3) not before an election,
4) It mustn't disturb current airport operations,
5) it cant be too bold or challenging,
the UK has not built any major new transport infrastructure for at least ten years. we are choking off our future.[/p][/quote]Crossrail is being built right now.Southend Andy

jayman wrote:
England desperately needs a new hub airport to boost economic growth. the political drive seems to be non existent. Our hopes for the future seem to be restricted to.

1) don't build any new rail or road infrastructure,
2) It cant cost too much,
3) not before an election,
4) It mustn't disturb current airport operations,
5) it cant be too bold or challenging,

the UK has not built any major new transport infrastructure for at least ten years. we are choking off our future.

Expand Southend airport, get the government to purchase Rochford golf corse & let the airport expand that way.

Now wait for the thumbs down.

[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote:
England desperately needs a new hub airport to boost economic growth. the political drive seems to be non existent. Our hopes for the future seem to be restricted to.
1) don't build any new rail or road infrastructure,
2) It cant cost too much,
3) not before an election,
4) It mustn't disturb current airport operations,
5) it cant be too bold or challenging,
the UK has not built any major new transport infrastructure for at least ten years. we are choking off our future.[/p][/quote]Expand Southend airport, get the government to purchase Rochford golf corse & let the airport expand that way.
Now wait for the thumbs down.Southend Andy

Appropriate a large enough site away from densely populated areas but close to the major road and rail routes and build a superhub airport up there.

Then being central it can better serve the whole of the UK.

Heathrow can then be redeveloped as residential and London City/Gatwick/Stanste
d/Luton/Southend etc can be serviced from the hub.

Plenty of wide open space much further up north.
Appropriate a large enough site away from densely populated areas but close to the major road and rail routes and build a superhub airport up there.
Then being central it can better serve the whole of the UK.
Heathrow can then be redeveloped as residential and London City/Gatwick/Stanste
d/Luton/Southend etc can be serviced from the hub.Howard Cháse

jayman wrote:
England desperately needs a new hub airport to boost economic growth. the political drive seems to be non existent. Our hopes for the future seem to be restricted to.

1) don't build any new rail or road infrastructure,
2) It cant cost too much,
3) not before an election,
4) It mustn't disturb current airport operations,
5) it cant be too bold or challenging,

the UK has not built any major new transport infrastructure for at least ten years. we are choking off our future.

Expand Southend airport, get the government to purchase Rochford golf corse &amp; let the airport expand that way.

Now wait for the thumbs down.

Here heare, lol extend the runways by concreting the golf range, bring in the big ones 747's and A300's destination USA...it would really put Southend on the maps...

[quote][p][bold]Southend Andy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote:
England desperately needs a new hub airport to boost economic growth. the political drive seems to be non existent. Our hopes for the future seem to be restricted to.
1) don't build any new rail or road infrastructure,
2) It cant cost too much,
3) not before an election,
4) It mustn't disturb current airport operations,
5) it cant be too bold or challenging,
the UK has not built any major new transport infrastructure for at least ten years. we are choking off our future.[/p][/quote]Expand Southend airport, get the government to purchase Rochford golf corse & let the airport expand that way.
Now wait for the thumbs down.[/p][/quote]Here heare, lol extend the runways by concreting the golf range, bring in the big ones 747's and A300's destination USA...it would really put Southend on the maps...sesibollox

jayman wrote:
England desperately needs a new hub airport to boost economic growth. the political drive seems to be non existent. Our hopes for the future seem to be restricted to.

1) don't build any new rail or road infrastructure,
2) It cant cost too much,
3) not before an election,
4) It mustn't disturb current airport operations,
5) it cant be too bold or challenging,

the UK has not built any major new transport infrastructure for at least ten years. we are choking off our future.

I HAVE RETURNED!

This comment from jayman really shows how foolish and anti Southend he is.

A few days ago he was bleating on about the lagoon proposed for Southend seafront saying how it will wreak havoc with the widelife and tidal flows and on these grounds should be prevented from going ahead....

Bet you can see where I am going with this...

However he doesn't use those same arguments on a scheme that would cause a much greater impact on the widelife...

Seems like he will only use an argument when he can use it as a whacking stick to moan about something but will not bring it up when it can be used against something he wants.

People moan about the "loss of views" relating to the lagoon but having water in a small area all thd time will improve the view instead of mud mud and more mud, its not mych higher than the prom so there will not really be a loss of view.

[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote:
England desperately needs a new hub airport to boost economic growth. the political drive seems to be non existent. Our hopes for the future seem to be restricted to.
1) don't build any new rail or road infrastructure,
2) It cant cost too much,
3) not before an election,
4) It mustn't disturb current airport operations,
5) it cant be too bold or challenging,
the UK has not built any major new transport infrastructure for at least ten years. we are choking off our future.[/p][/quote]I HAVE RETURNED!
This comment from jayman really shows how foolish and anti Southend he is.
A few days ago he was bleating on about the lagoon proposed for Southend seafront saying how it will wreak havoc with the widelife and tidal flows and on these grounds should be prevented from going ahead....
Bet you can see where I am going with this...
However he doesn't use those same arguments on a scheme that would cause a much greater impact on the widelife...
Seems like he will only use an argument when he can use it as a whacking stick to moan about something but will not bring it up when it can be used against something he wants.
People moan about the "loss of views" relating to the lagoon but having water in a small area all thd time will improve the view instead of mud mud and more mud, its not mych higher than the prom so there will not really be a loss of view.Joe Clark

ORACUS wrote:
Everyone except jayman and myself so far are anti air travel.

I am not anti air travel I fully support Southend Airport, Boris Island is in the wrong place simple as that, a far better option would be to build a new airport west or North west of Heathrow it would be more centrally located and still within wasy reach of London.

It would also get rid the the land reclamation issues thus reducing the cost.

Jayman is anti Southend Airport check back at his previous postings.

[quote][p][bold]ORACUS[/bold] wrote:
Everyone except jayman and myself so far are anti air travel.[/p][/quote]I am not anti air travel I fully support Southend Airport, Boris Island is in the wrong place simple as that, a far better option would be to build a new airport west or North west of Heathrow it would be more centrally located and still within wasy reach of London.
It would also get rid the the land reclamation issues thus reducing the cost.
Jayman is anti Southend Airport check back at his previous postings.Joe Clark

jayman wrote:
England desperately needs a new hub airport to boost economic growth. the political drive seems to be non existent. Our hopes for the future seem to be restricted to.

1) don't build any new rail or road infrastructure,
2) It cant cost too much,
3) not before an election,
4) It mustn't disturb current airport operations,
5) it cant be too bold or challenging,

the UK has not built any major new transport infrastructure for at least ten years. we are choking off our future.

I HAVE RETURNED!

This comment from jayman really shows how foolish and anti Southend he is.

A few days ago he was bleating on about the lagoon proposed for Southend seafront saying how it will wreak havoc with the widelife and tidal flows and on these grounds should be prevented from going ahead....

Bet you can see where I am going with this...

However he doesn't use those same arguments on a scheme that would cause a much greater impact on the widelife...

Seems like he will only use an argument when he can use it as a whacking stick to moan about something but will not bring it up when it can be used against something he wants.

People moan about the &quot;loss of views" relating to the lagoon but having water in a small area all thd time will improve the view instead of mud mud and more mud, its not mych higher than the prom so there will not really be a loss of view.

Joe, I know you are fond of misrepresenting the points made by others so allow me to be Very! careful by what im about to write.. We are all talking about 'Direct' 'long-distance' 'emerging market' 'international' 'air travel'

Southend airport does not fit into this criteria. Think of it as stag's and hens off to some generic concrete, seaside, vomit stained, diarrhoea trap..* *this is what you will respond too in your next post because you have a bizarre knack of jumping to southend airports defence should its reputation or image be cast in any other light then its self styled 'brand image'

Now that is sorted..

I would support any new airport in any new location as long as it is 'bold and ambitious', fit for purpose and supports the UK's Economy for the future. we need to project our image across the world as a country that is confident about or future. At the moment we are perceived as a country that is either unable or unwilling to commit to anything for the long term.

[quote][p][bold]Joe Clark[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote:
England desperately needs a new hub airport to boost economic growth. the political drive seems to be non existent. Our hopes for the future seem to be restricted to.
1) don't build any new rail or road infrastructure,
2) It cant cost too much,
3) not before an election,
4) It mustn't disturb current airport operations,
5) it cant be too bold or challenging,
the UK has not built any major new transport infrastructure for at least ten years. we are choking off our future.[/p][/quote]I HAVE RETURNED!
This comment from jayman really shows how foolish and anti Southend he is.
A few days ago he was bleating on about the lagoon proposed for Southend seafront saying how it will wreak havoc with the widelife and tidal flows and on these grounds should be prevented from going ahead....
Bet you can see where I am going with this...
However he doesn't use those same arguments on a scheme that would cause a much greater impact on the widelife...
Seems like he will only use an argument when he can use it as a whacking stick to moan about something but will not bring it up when it can be used against something he wants.
People moan about the "loss of views" relating to the lagoon but having water in a small area all thd time will improve the view instead of mud mud and more mud, its not mych higher than the prom so there will not really be a loss of view.[/p][/quote]Joe, I know you are fond of misrepresenting the points made by others so allow me to be Very! careful by what im about to write.. We are all talking about 'Direct' 'long-distance' 'emerging market' 'international' 'air travel'
Southend airport does not fit into this criteria. Think of it as stag's and hens off to some generic concrete, seaside, vomit stained, diarrhoea trap..* *this is what you will respond too in your next post because you have a bizarre knack of jumping to southend airports defence should its reputation or image be cast in any other light then its self styled 'brand image'
Now that is sorted..
I would support any new airport in any new location as long as it is 'bold and ambitious', fit for purpose and supports the UK's Economy for the future. we need to project our image across the world as a country that is confident about or future. At the moment we are perceived as a country that is either unable or unwilling to commit to anything for the long term.jayman