Citing fears that doomsday believers, curiosity seekers, and "above all" journalists will flood a French mountaintop on Dec. 21, the supposed day of the Mayan apocalypse, local officials are banning access to the mountain.

The spot, Pic de Bugarach, is rumored to be one of the only safe places on the planet on Dec. 21, according to Raw Story. On that date, a major cycle of the Maya Long Count calendar ends. The calendar is split into several chunks, including 400-year spans called b'ak'tuns. Dec. 21, 2012 on our calendar marks the end of the 13th b'ak'tun and the beginning of a new cycle.

One online rumor holds that on this day of destruction, Pic de Bugarach will open up to reveal an alien spacecraft, which will save believers nearby. That has local officials worried. [End of the World? Top Doomsday Fears]

"We are expecting a few visionaries, a few people who believe in this end of the world, but in extremely limited numbers," state official Eric Freysselinard told Raw Story. "We are expecting greater numbers of people who are just curious, but in numbers we cannot determine. Above all, we are expecting lots of journalists."

In response, officials will call in 100 police and firefighters on Dec. 21 to seal off approaches to the mountain, Freysselinard told Raw Story.

2 Peter 3:3-4 KJV
“Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.”

There have always been scoffers and people blind to the truth of course, but I suspect that on Dec 22nd we may begin to see this fulfilled in full as Peter wrote, he’s indicating here that at the same time, it really is the last days,

And what prediction would that be? That so many after Dec 21st passes and nothing happens will make light of this ‘Mayan calender’ end of the world foolishness and begin to be dismissive of any thought to how this age will end?

Or that those walking after the flesh instead of the spirit cant see we’re in the last days,

2 Peter 1:16
“For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.”

I'm so far ahead of you guys: I have been to Chichen Itza Mayan Pyramid in the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico. I even have a brass Mayan calendar. Where did I put that? I'll find it as it is in this room somewhere.

My experience at the pyramid: There is a very, very, deep body of water there where they threw live women sacrifices.

However, the men didn't get off scott free. There is a huge ball court where two teams of men play. The object is to get the ball through a high set stone circle. The team that gets the ball through the circle (small circle, ball barely fits through the hole) is the winner. The captain of the winning team presents his head to the losing captain and losing captain beheads the winning captain.

It is an honor for the winning captain to be beheaded as that sends him straight to heaven.

I have also been on the tip of the Yucatan in the area where the asteroid landed in the water and destroyed most life on earth.

Now, when I find my brass Mayan calendar, maybe just having the calendar will save my life on Dec. 21. I'll let you know if I'm still alive then, if you are still on earth.

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posted on 11/18/2012 7:02:16 PM PST
by Marcella
(When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)

Maybe this the same space craft that should have been trailing the comet HaleBopp and they just got the date wrong. San Diego is a great place to spend Christmas. Personally I need a coat but my back east relatives wear a sweater at night.

It’s just a thought, certainly not a prediction, but given the fact that the Mayan prophecy has no Biblical basis whatsoever, wouldn’t it cause more of a falling-away (or at least create more doubt in Biblical eschatology) if something were to actually happen on 12/21/12?

We’ve been in the last days since Jesus rose from that Tomb on April 13th, 32 AD and 14,000 days later on the 9th day of AV in August of 70 AD the Temple was destroyed and Israel was dispersed throughout the world in the Diaspora,

What I’m talking about here are the signs of the times and this is just one more indicator, for which we are commanded to watch for,

Luke 21:36
“Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.”

As you say, this Mayan prophecy is not biblical beyond the sense of a global expectation of something coming, and when it fails to materialize, how it then may discredit in the minds of those with very little knowledge of what the Bible says about the coming close of the age, they throw the baby out with the bath water so to speak,

My point was only that it potentially could fulfill another prophecy towards the return of Jesus. What Peter is saying is that it is ‘the last days’ when they are scoffing, so if this is not the global fulfillment, then something not dissimilar will occur again to coincide when the end is in fact come,

Bloody savages who reveled in human sacrifice on the one hand, but highly accomplished astronomers on the other. That is the only thing that gives me pause, that they may have been aware of some cyclical astronomical threat of which we are not aware. The skies would be getting much more active ahead of such a thing, imho, so I’m of the opinion now that this end of an age under their calendar does not represent a threat of that nature.

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We don’t know the day, nor the hour, but we do know for certain that it will be at the Feast of Trumpets, of a Sabbath year. That is why we are to watch. Read 1Thessalonians 5, and you will understand better. Paul tells the Thessalonians that they will not be in the dark as to that day.

I’m sorry your not following the conjecture, the 22nd is just the day after this Mayan nonsense should be debunked,

It could be one day or 120 years, as in the days of Noah to be ‘in the last days’

Matthew 24:37-39 KJV
“But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”

I did a little looking into the whole thing when it started to become a popular phenomenon, and I took a particular interest in understanding just why certain Christian groups were validating it, most notably the Van Impes.

Their “ages” pass differently according to a system I never quite understood, but it’s not necessarily a pleasant thing for those living on this planet. End of the world would not be the correct description but disruption and upheaval would be.

That’s what had me concerned about some possible, cyclical astronomical basis behind these “ages,” considering their level of accomplishment in that area. As I mentioned above, the skies would be getting much more active ahead of such a thing if that were to be the case. I see no indication now in mid-late November 2012 that it is, so I’ve pretty well ruled that out, myself.

I agree the fall feast days will all be fulfilled on the very day the feast is celebrated on the calender.

And like Jesus ascended to heaven 10 days before Pentecost when the Church was born, the Feast of Trumpets is 10 days before Yom Kippur,

1 Corinthians Chapter 10:11 KJV
“Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.”

Also for the final appointment, the whole world will celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles when Jesus returns,

Zechariah 14:16 KJV
“And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.”

That was one sick culture. The Conquistadors arrival was the best thing that ever happened there. Like cavalry arriving.
The arrival of the conquistadors, is like American soldiers liberating Dachau. The madness stopped.

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posted on 11/18/2012 8:24:36 PM PST
by DesertRhino
(I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)

Its just a thought, certainly not a prediction, but given the fact that the Mayan prophecy has no Biblical basis whatsoever, wouldnt it cause more of a falling-away (or at least create more doubt in Biblical eschatology) if something were to actually happen on 12/21/12?

Whatever the mind of man can imagine, will be not only be imagined but feared, rational or not.The problems occur when the insane jump into the mix, and the longer I live, the greater my belief that a significant percentage of humans are insane to a greater or lesser extent. The proof is everywhere.

One can just as easily assert that it is also a fact that Biblical prophesy has no basis whatsoever in Mayan beliefs.

So what?

I would never succumb to my insane nature and assert that the Bible I believe in is more valid than the Mayan version. I believe in my faith nevertheless, and have no fears, uncertainty or problems with other cultures and their beliefs, so long as they don't continually attempt to kill me as a result.

Can you imagine a world where every world religion was as sick and insane as islam? I can't.

Did you notice that that Mayan callendar disk ends on the winter solstice?

That is the sole significance of that date. All pagan systems begin their new year on the winter solstice, while God begins his year on the first new moon after the autumnal equinox. And that was also when his son was born.

My only interest was in determining if there was some possibility of a comet, asteroid, group of them or some other object on a cyclical, low periodicity orbit that was behind the changing of their “ages” since the account implies upheaval and disruption.

Equinox and solstice are not necessarily a “pagan” thing merely because they observed them. My own grandparents used the Farmer’s Almanac for planting, cutting and harvesting. They were not “pagan.”

Mayans were. They were, however, also accomplished astronomers. That is why I took note and looked into the matter further, that and various supposed Christian groups apparently validating it.

I have seen no indication that there is a cause for concern at this point, so I am fairly certain that there is no astronomical threat associated with this.

God is using the 360 day calender in the old testament, and clearly is using a 360 day calender with how he resolves events that have yet to occur in the book of Revelation.

I honestly don’t believe there’s any reason to assume he’s not using the same accounting of time in between these events,

Without going into any details, I can say, that if you do look at important events and intervals in that manner, it does appear to show interesting structures and patterns that at least have an appearance of being attended too, and that align with his Feast days far into the future,

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