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11-09-2004 02:32 PM

BarryK

hey barry....ever think about doing a one or two hour special on discovery. [/B][/QUOTE]

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I'd be afraid being a movie star someone like Julie Roberts would want my body! Than a messy divorce, etc.

Really, my luck it would be Oprah!

11-09-2004 11:55 AM

mrcleanr6

as far as mixing and using the products i can give some good advice but actually manufacturing the products themselves if thats what we are talking about, is a whole other story. pearls are mica powder and some how it is colored to reflect a certain color light and the candies are made from dye rather than an actual pigment which makes them less lightfast. some color dyes are more lightfast than others so just purchasing any color dye just doesn't work. most colors available today for automotive use have been tested to last a long time in the sun without fading while i have seen other dyes sit in the sun for 2 hours and get totally bleached out so you couldn't tell it was there. i usually try and just stick with products that have been tested and work. there are plenty of suppliers out there now that have such an array of products (although most are the same) there is no need to tinker around with making your own stuff. that tends to just lead to problems down the road. let the paint companies do what they do. but just to expand our knowledge maybe barry would like to explain. hey barry....ever think about doing a one or two hour special on discovery.

11-09-2004 10:55 AM

BarryK

Quote:

Originally posted by crazy larry When i had my paint mixed, i wasn't paying too much attention, but is regular base what color before mixing? i ASSuMEd it was white, but what do i know?

Barry, how do you make your own pearls? are you meaning mixing them up per your own ratio, or what???

Dutch, I'm a member of the $low learner$ club$ of america!

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Yes, making your own colors, you can't make the Pearl powder in backyard.
Candies also you can make but its not cost effective so better off to buy the concentrate.
Do you want to know how to make colors or the Pearl itself?
If you do I will be happy to explain but keep in mind, we have a national bike show winner on here and Jim may know more than me.

11-08-2004 10:00 PM

outlaw17

BarryK , I want to know how you mix your own kandy's , do you use base coat tinters mixed into the clear ?

11-08-2004 06:20 PM

crazy larry

When i had my paint mixed, i wasn't paying too much attention, but is regular base what color before mixing? i ASSuMEd it was white, but what do i know?

Barry, how do you make your own pearls? are you meaning mixing them up per your own ratio, or what???

Dutch, I'm a member of the $low learner$ club$ of america!

11-08-2004 06:14 PM

BarryK

Quote:

Originally posted by Dutchman Got to love the competition to hopefully bring some reasonable prices of paints to the market.

I'm with you Larry, cuts down on the $learning curve.

Dutch

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House of Color is an excellent line and they had the market wrapped up BUT these type of products are easy to make, just time consuming matching the color you want.
H of C has gotten out of hand on the pricing and now that opens the door for other companies to jump in.
Prices will go down as some of these companies will be ready to go under in six months, so they will start blowing out product and other companies will try to match the price to keep their sales.
Dutchman, you will get your wish.
A further note when these 10 companies realizes Sem jumped in
they will have a price decrease next week I'm sure.
bwk

11-08-2004 10:38 AM

Dutchman

Got to love the competition to hopefully bring some reasonable prices of paints to the market.

I'm with you Larry, cuts down on the $learning curve.

Dutch

11-08-2004 09:12 AM

BarryK

Quote:

Originally posted by mrcleanr6 i always like stuff thats in concentrate form. there is always a wider range of things you can do with it. so.....when is southern poly going to jump into the game???

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That was in the works for April 2005, to be honest.
But after going to this show there must have been at least
10 new companies introducing this stuff.
So April is now free.

11-08-2004 07:33 AM

mrcleanr6

i always like stuff thats in concentrate form. there is always a wider range of things you can do with it. so.....when is southern poly going to jump into the game???

11-08-2004 05:50 AM

BarryK

I have always made my own pearls and candies so not real sure how all the other procedures work.

But he showed me a panel taken to bare metal and one
covered with white epoxy and one with back epoxy than the pearl was mixed in the clear and two coats shot and than cleared with straight clear.
He also said you could tint a sealer and use as a base.

11-07-2004 10:17 PM

mrcleanr6

yes, i think every company makes it. house of kolor calls it intercoat clear, ppg calls it binding clear (i think).

11-07-2004 10:12 PM

crazy larry

I did not know they made a clear basecoat....... learn something new everyday.

11-07-2004 10:08 PM

mrcleanr6

it says in my book to mix in clear. i dont know if thats clear basecoat or urethane clearcoat. never used that stuff. the flourescent pigment i used mixed into the clearcoat. all the pearls, candys and flakes can be mixed into either clear base or clearcoat.

11-07-2004 10:02 PM

crazy larry

so....
i mix the base color concentrate from sem with my ppg clear and that is my base coat.?.... would you need a clear coat on top of that? interesting..... please bare with me. or is it bear? Barry , put your clothes back on.

11-07-2004 09:39 PM

mrcleanr6

alot of the stuff is just like house of kolor's with dry pearls and flakes that you add to your clear as well as the candy concentrates. the only thing a little different that the base colors are in concentrated form also. you should be able to use all their stuff with your ppg line. i have used the flourescent pigment before and you just mix it into any clearcoat. worked great.

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