Yes, but Chan's PCS skills are waayy over-rated. Sorry, that's JMO. Quads I don't care. I just don't care. Daisuke was not rewarded for his superior artistic skills, and he put out enough technical expertise to have been rewarded more. A lot of judges and ubers, and even neutral fans seem to be rating Chan in the same league with Dai artistically. That is simply not true. My stating it over and over has nothing to do with trying to keep it from being true. It just is hands-down, in my estimation very obvious that Daii is at the top of his game artistically, while Chan is NOT!

Seriously, and it isn't only about the pcs. Chan DID NOT HAVE higher difficulty. In fact, Chan's difficulty was almost SIX POINTS LOWER than Takahashi's (and they downgraded dai's 3F). This is such a joke. And I'm happy the french crow tried to do something about it, even if they don't know the numbers, they simply know how crazy was the fact that Patrick's won the FS over a skater who performed so brilliantly in every way.

I think, with a majority vote, most people would give at least PE and IN no doubt to Daisuke. And yet, the judges are consistentgiving them to PChan, as if he truly is in another league, which he isn't. There must be a reason for that. Such unexplainable things don't happen without a reason. Either politics, or judge circle favoritism (as in between Dai and Patrick, coz I think other people's PCS were more or less correct on today), there's someting going on we don't know about.

If figure skating died with all the great skating today, then I really have no clue what the word "died" means.

I agree with the poster who said skating survived tonight. Chan was sent the message loud and clear that he cannot rest easy at the top. If Hanyu continues on this path, he is on the rise to knocking Patrick off the top pedestal.

And the problem too is the judges aren't even consistent. Look at Contesti's higher PCS than Denis Ten. Or how Kozuka's PCS drop big time (and many say Kozuka's basics are probably the closest to Chan). The judges aren't even consistent.

This may be an unpopular view, but I find Kozuka's basics to be right up there with Chan's.

Anyway, I think Koz's PCS also show that if you skate in the earlier group, your PCS marks are automatically going to be lower than those skating in later groups. That's why we have skaters with low technical content - but stunning basics for example - recieving SS marks that say the opposite because they can never get into later groups in competition. How can judges be consistent if this is how things roll?

That being said, Takahiko's PCS scores have always been contradicting, and more often than not, too low for what he puts out there, IMO. I just don't get it. Is it just my bias kicking in?

This may be an unpopular view, but I find Kozuka's basics to be right up there with Chan's.

Anyway, I think Koz's PCS also show that if you skate in the earlier group, your PCS marks are automatically going to be lower than those skating in later groups. That's why we have skaters with low technical content - but stunning basics for example - recieving SS marks that say the opposite because they can never get into later groups in competition. How can judges be consistent if this is how things roll?

That being said, Takahiko's PCS scores have always been contradicting, and more often than not, too low for what he puts out there, IMO. I just don't get it. Is it just my bias kicking in?

It's not an unpopular view at all. I find Kozuka superior over Chan in PCS. It's really a shame that he couldn't get the job done technically here because he is sheer brilliance when all the pieces of the puzzle come together beautifully.

I think the overall outcome should have been very close here between Patrick and Daisuke... I'm fine with Chan winning, but if Dai would have gotten the gold - fine too.
But just as in the GPF, Chan shouldn't have won the FS. Should have been Takahashi, and then Chan and Hanyu (don't care so much about the order). Takahashi's PCS are a bad joke, a bad, bad, bad, baaaaaaaad joke - and he looked so disappointed to me. Hope this isn't duscouraging him or something :/

The booing was just unfair, but I have to admit I can understand it perfectly. I feel so sorry for Chan, because he doesn't deserve it, but the judges actually do.
What is the ISU doing there...? :/

Glad baby Yuzu is there to lift my spirits up - his smile during the medal ceremony - cutest thing in the world!!<3