This is a tough one there are only a couple of real options. Hopefully you have a fall back position with more supplies so you let them have what they want and get out of the area or if you are set up with a garden and animals I think it would make sense to try to bargain some kind of let's call it a tax. Then hopefully you have time at least to leave or find reinforcements and get your gear back. You don't pillage a countryside without making a lot of enemies

Hi guys the scenario is shtf we have all stuck to our plan it's time to bug out of Sydney let's say we're looking to go west looking at the satellite maps and knowing there are up to 4 million people looking to leave how do you decide the best way to go? directly west takes you over the mountains hard going making the trip much longer there are a few roads but they will be packed with people or patrolled by authorities. north or south around the mountains would be an easier trip especially with kids. But I think most people will try to go that way. There are a few fire trails, power line trails, creeks and rivers that's could be followed over but a lot can go wrong deep in those mountains. I have an idea where I want to go I just want to see if you see something I don't.

Ok GG I am cleaning the chook shit from under the roosts.Adding a goodly amount around most of the fruit trees.Bought 14 huge cows heavy in calf yesterday.Carted them home today in the old truck.$20,000 plus poorer now for the exercise! Hopefully all will calve before end of september and we will recoup some of the money mid next year.A few more railway posts to concrete in before the weather too crazy hot.Moth and butterflys are moving around the garden so soon we will have have no green leafy veges left.All the mangoes are flowering well ATM.Dinner time maties!

Local sawmill spilt 20+ cubic meters of pine shavings & sawdust & I got it for $60 with them doing the loading. I get about 3 cubic meters on my ute with 4ft hungry boards. Ute load does about 30 trees in orchard with about 12-16 shovelfuls per tree. Done 5 loads so far & my arms are tired. No weight in the stuff but about 450 shovels to a load. Bit repetitious.

Three loads to go & that will do most of my 280 fruit trees except the bananas but I mulched my 150 bananas last week with 5 x 4x4 rolls of hay I got from a hay grower for $12-50 a roll delivered after it got wet.

Last time I bought 20 meters of pine shavings I paid $20 a cubic meter for it delivered. My ute takes it straight to the trees so no wheelbarrowing.

Well got home this arvo and made new ashbox drawer for combustion stove as it did not have one and reco,d the the ash pit door so as to get the thing going just have to repoint the firebricks when I get back to it will be up and running outdoor kitchen with a little wetback for hot water

laid up with a cold and with time on my hands ... I've looked into this a bit further.

Dug up a book 'In action with the SAS' by David Horner, Professor of Australian Defence History and former platoon commander in Vietnam.

Turns out snoring certainly did happen while SAS teams were out on recce patrols. It is specifically mentioned. No mention of the consequences though (other than waking up team members) ... so ... I guess their strategy of finding good LUP's, away from other people in their AO worked good enough. There was one mention of a patrol where one member got asthmatic while they were in process of evading ... the commander of that patrol refused to take him out ever again as the loud wheezing increased risk of detection.

Also, according the professor, SAS patrols generally moved around during the day as at night there was too much risk of bumping into enemy OP's and ambushes.