Hawks comeback win is all on Pierce (and doc). Iso against Josh Smith was totally lame. Pierce gave Korver way to many open looks and did not make him pay on the other end.

And some people still wouldn't trade him......that is staggering to me.

People are going as far as calling me a moron for even suggesting pierce gets benched or traded. It really is unbelievable.

+1 for hanging on to your beliefs...I am with you, and until now (hopefuiiy)more and more people will see the "Light" about Pierce.

I thought it was supposed to be the name on the front of the jersey that's most important.

Obviously, many people don't agree with us.

Name in front of the jersey is meaningless without the people who wear them. I see no problem with wanting to root for the player wearing them, and sticking by them for good or worse, particularly after a long career wearing this jersey you support.

Hawks comeback win is all on Pierce (and doc). Iso against Josh Smith was totally lame. Pierce gave Korver way to many open looks and did not make him pay on the other end.

And some people still wouldn't trade him......that is staggering to me.

People are going as far as calling me a moron for even suggesting pierce gets benched or traded. It really is unbelievable.

+1 for hanging on to your beliefs...I am with you, and until now (hopefuiiy)more and more people will see the "Light" about Pierce.

I thought it was supposed to be the name on the front of the jersey that's most important.

Obviously, many people don't agree with us.

Name in front of the jersey is meaningless without the people who wear them. I see no problem with wanting to root for the player wearing them, and sticking by them for good or worse, particularly after a long career wearing this jersey you support.

Red felt the same way..........lots of years wandering in the wilderness after that.....

Hawks comeback win is all on Pierce (and doc). Iso against Josh Smith was totally lame. Pierce gave Korver way to many open looks and did not make him pay on the other end.

And some people still wouldn't trade him......that is staggering to me.

People are going as far as calling me a moron for even suggesting pierce gets benched or traded. It really is unbelievable.

+1 for hanging on to your beliefs...I am with you, and until now (hopefuiiy)more and more people will see the "Light" about Pierce.

I thought it was supposed to be the name on the front of the jersey that's most important.

Obviously, many people don't agree with us.

Name in front of the jersey is meaningless without the people who wear them. I see no problem with wanting to root for the player wearing them, and sticking by them for good or worse, particularly after a long career wearing this jersey you support.

Red felt the same way..........lots of years wandering in the wilderness after that.....

It's a fallacy to believe that it was due Red not trading Bird, etc. when he could.

We had the Bias and Lewis situation that really set the franchise back.

The Pierce-Walker years weren't bad, and better management could've done more during that era. You know, we had Billups at hand too. We also had Johnson, who we traded for a playoff rental, etc.

So, yeah... I don't think it's fair to find fault with Red's philosophy, particularly with the amount of success he had through his career.

Bias died in '86. Red's magic in getting him was incredible. He would've prolonged Bird's,McHale's and Parrish's careers. That frontcourt would've been the best frontcourt that ever has been or ever could be.

Bias' death should've been an eventual impetus for Red to look to the future and break up his frontcourt. He always looked to the future, but he let his loyalty to the real Big 3 cloud his judgment.

Reggie Lewis was a horrible tragedy for his family and the Celtics family. We lucked into Reggie, and even if he lived, the Cs would have been stuck in mediocrity for a long time.

The M.L. years were a direct result of Red staying loyal.

Red was the architect of 16 titles. He was a great man....but he made a mistake...it happens.....

I just don't want it to happen again...letting assets disintegrate into worthlessness....