i've had several different ipods now..i started with the classic 30 gb then moved onto the touch 32 gb...i liked both of them but i dont like how after several months the battery basically goes to shit. my other complaint with ipods (by the way im running a pc) is that when im using itunes and trying to scroll through my library with my keyboard arrow keys it goes extremely slow now. i did some research on that and found out that since itunes is mainly a mac program they dont put in too much work on the pc itunes meaning it will get slower and slower as more s come out. what do you guys think i should get? and is the zune software easy to use? btw i have over 100 gbs of music that i want on it so dont rec one that cant hold that much music

I'm telling you, you're going to want that 120 GB Zune. I've used both (actually used to rent iPod 80's from the TTU library before getting my own Zune), and I prefer the Zune to the iPod. I do, however, like iTunes over the Zune Software.

I've always had iPods, but after it was stolen I got my hands on an old Zune in a poker game. The Zune software is very flashy and aesthetically pleasing, but it's too much of a hassle compared to the iTunes software. I'd say stick with the iPod just because iTunes rapes Zune software.

What are you guys doing that you're breaking iPods? I've abused the crap out of both my iPods (first one was a 4G Mini that I had for three years and it still worked fine, and now I have an 80G Classic) and I never broke either, no cases mind you. Never had any trouble with battery life, software, etc. Very few and infrequent glitches, and iTunes is simple and intuitive. Why bother with anything else? Also, iPods look sexy while Zunes look like they were outdated ten years ago.

The software is the zune 4.0 software, it's pretty much a flashy itunes software with a social account that displays your listens and you can add friends and a have a profile, similar to last.fm. Also the program runs off of really powerful algorithms that can actually dj a playlist for you, this is called smart dj and it is incredible.

I broke my ipods by listening to them, charging them and treating it like any 250 dollar investment.

Well if you have over 100gb of music, and won't settle for compromising with a smaller device, your only choice is the ipod classic or zune 120gb.

I have a massive amount of music too, but I just load my 32gb Zune HD with the shit I listen to the most and it suites me well.

The Zune HD is the most advanced PMP on the market right now, its the only 3rd generation device besides the iTouch. If you want the latest and greatest that is the one to get. Unparalled sound quality combined with a few neat perks. But if you really can't settle with less than a 120gb player then I guess that is out of the question.

I really don't understand why the software is so important, these things are made to be idiot proof, yet people still complain that its "hard" to sync their devices. If you aren't a retard, then either software will be fine.

Whatever you get make sure you get a good pair of headphones to go with it, the standard headphones that come with either device suck. Whats the point of having a shiny new $250 device when you're listening to music out of headphones that sound like shit.

I'm a huge fan of Sennheiser products, so I would go with those. You can get the CX400's for as little as $30 and they will destroy the stock headphones. I would say stay under $100 because the margin of quality is very small between each model.

well if you absolutely have to have that much space on the player, then Zune & iPod are your only choices.

however: if you want the most reliable and best-sounding mp3 player out there? avoid both of these and get the Creative Zen ($180 on Amazon). i absolutely LOVE mine.

it's only 32 gigs BUT... it has an SD card slot, so your space is basically unlimited. and it's a flash player, so that means MASSIVE battery life...i get 14-16 hours. screen is nice and big, simple interface, great software, the works. i've dropped mine countless times on hard surfaces, still works like a charm. plus, the sound is way better than iPod or Zune, and it's got a customizable EQ.

Stear clear of skullcandys and most low end sony headphones. I personally love the zune premium headphones that you get if you customize your zune or order online. Those cost around $30 and have the best sound quality for that price, yet the headphones prophet mentioned sound really promising.

As for software, just fuck around with it. The whole software package is free and you can download it from the zune website. My advice try that out if you like it get a zune, you won't be dissappointed.