I don't know. Pettine doesn't strike me as soft or a dope. I think Manziel was a first round luxury pick after the fleecing of the Bills. And with the continued shenanigans I don't think Pettine has Manziel starting week one. We'll see!

I don't know. Pettine doesn't strike me as soft or a dope. I think Manziel was a first round luxury pick after the fleecing of the Bills. And with the continued shenanigans I don't think Pettine has Manziel starting week one. We'll see!

If it's Hoyer so be it.

Would make for better tv if Johnny Football was starting against us....but i know Hoyer has the much better shot.

His anticipation and accuracy are bad. He's a shrimp that like to play like a renegade and take a lot of hits. Add in the shaky character stuff and put him in Cleveland of all places and it's the recipe for disaster.

My only question is will they be smart enough to take a QB with their first pick next year?

Oh, yes, but this really should hold regardless of context until the franchise crawls out of the landfill. They could have knowingly drafted Otto Graham reincarnated and were I a Browns fan, I'd still be concerned.

His anticipation and accuracy are bad. He's a shrimp that like to play like a renegade and take a lot of hits. Add in the shaky character stuff and put him in Cleveland of all places and it's the recipe for disaster.

My only question is will they be smart enough to take a QB with their first pick next year?

I think so. Manziel was a luxury first round pick. Cleveland cleaned up on draft day. People can boo me all they want, but I know some really good long suffering Cleveland folk who deserve better. What they are excited about is Pettine more than any player. I bet they draft another QB.