Glad the mixers have been updated, but a couple of questions on them. Why a camera tripod mount? That seems odd to me. Can the T4S not mount to a mic stand? This also seems like they won't be able to mount on the L1s either. Also, I get that the L1 MII won't output enough power from the stand, but it should be able to connect digitally to them. Again, to me these all seem like odd exclusions/decisions. Hopefully one of the Bose folks will chime in with some answers.

Thank You ST, I had purchased several of those adapters & then I was forced to buy several more from Bose Corp. because the things literally crumbled in one's hands when simply installing them or when removing them to place on a different mike stand, etc.... What a nightmare! This new arrangement, with a quality quick release mounting bracket(..or not), would allow for more versatility & for more creative locations to mount. Bravo!

Here are On Stage MY550 Microphone Extension Attachment Bar plus On Stage CM01 Video Camera / Digital Recorder Adapter holding up a T8S (4.1 pounds / 1.9 kg) Yes, the microphone extension attachment bar is bending down. I haven't attached any cables yet. I doubt that I would really set up the T8S on my microphone stand at a gig. I might put it on a separate stand though. ST

I also got a Quiklok MS329 clamp on table. It doesn't let you change the pitch to change the viewing angle of the screen, but the T4S display is easy to read anyway. The clamp on table feels more secure, but it's heavier and bigger pack and carry. ST

Here are some pictures of some mounting options I'm exploring. Here are the T4S (left) and T1 (right). The T4S weighs 2.1 lb / 2 kg. This is the same as the T1. Note - the T4S display is brighter than the T1. It just doesn't appear that way in the picture. Here are the pieces that are supporting the T4S. The black arm (bottom) is an On Stage MY550 Microphone Extension Attachment Bar I flipped the 5/8" thumbwheel around (silver knob) so I could have the bar above the where it meets the...

Without the T8S you can see the quick release - that part you attach to the microphone stand. Here are the two pieces. The part on the right attaches to the T8S. Here's the stock photo. Available on Amazon: Fotga Quick Release Clamp Adapter Plate for Monopod and Giottos MH630 Tripod Ball Head Arca Compatible I haven't used this component enough to recommend it. I'm sharing the link so you can see where I got it.

Without the quick release you can see the 5/8" to 1/4" adapter. The 1/4" post was a little too long to work with the quick release so I used a washer from a rack mount screw. Here's a shorter one that should work equally well. available on Amazon: CAMVATE 1/4"-20 Male to 5/8"-27 Female Microphone Stand Mount for Camera Stud I haven't used this component for long enough to recommend it. I'm sharing the link so you can see where I got it.

Here's how I've set up the microphone. The horizontal bar. On Stage MY550 Microphone Extension Attachment Bar (click picture to see it on Amazon) with On Stage MSA9505 Posi-Lok Telescoping Mini-Boom (click picture to see it on Amazon) I haven't used these components for long enough to recommend them. I'm sharing the links so you can see where I got them.

Hi Scottcald, For others reading along, we're talking about this. You're right, the screw mount will not mount directly to an L1® Cylindrical Radiator® or L1® Compact extension. There are lots of inexpensive adapters convert the 1/4" (6mm) mounting screw insert to work with a microphone stand. available on Amazon: CAMVATE 1/4"-20 Male to 5/8"-27 Female Microphone Stand Mount for Camera Stud Likely, the most criticized aspect of the T1® was the much-maligned microphone stand adapter. With the...

I cobbled together some bits and pieces and came up with this arrangement for the T8S ToneMatch mixer on a microphone stand. I wasn't happy with having the T8S attached to a bar extending out from the microphone stand. All the bars and extensions and tables drooped or sagged. So I put the T8S directly on the stand, and microphone on an extension. I'm thinking out loud as I explore these ideas. I'm not ready to recommend this approach yet. I may end up putting the T8S on small table or...

Thanks for all the pics, and the work you put into this! I have a few of the L1 remote holder brackets in stock...very useful items. I bought a nice mic stand/camera adaptor on Amazon as well. Attaches to standard mic stand, swivels, tilts.

Hi DrumrPete, I tried one of these. It seems ok with the 2 pound T4S. I was less happy with it with the 4 pound T8S. The top part swivelled around and came apart. I returned that one. What concerned me most though, was if the bottom adustment wasn't tight enough, the weight of the T4S or T8S could pull the unit off-level and it would swing down. That's scary - to see the unit swing down. It might not go very far, or it could pull down the microphone stand. That's why I started looking at...

The first one I ordered showed up with NO tightening nut! They said, "toss it, we'll send another. I have spare parts now. I have only ever used it for my Zoom video cam. I can see why the T8S might have trouble.

Some people have expressed concern because the T8S ToneMatch mixer does not have ToneMatch (digital) connections to L1 Model 1S and L1 Model II. I've taken the time to test this carefully. To my ears, there is no audible difference between the digital and the analog connections. The background and some notes about how I tested follow below. The best way I know to detect differences in sound is to do an A/B switch back and forth instantly. Even a few seconds between listening events can lead...

Thanks for doing this....Not sure what my electrical engineering professor would say about this "experiment." Pretty subjective at best....to me not providing a digital output is the oversight of the century.....sorry.

Very interested in how this plays out. Don't get me wrong I see where Bose was coming from as they were not gonna be happy with the T8S since the L1 Stand was not capable of supplying enough power for the mixer. I don't think the solution they came up with was the only one they could have but I believe you when you say it still sounds great I'll just want to hear more real world trials from people who know how they should sound already. I need more channels and do this already sub-mixing...

So....I have been using BOSE for years now in my show so I am willing to test this out. I have one on order but will keep my two Tonematch mixers until I can confirm, the analog out is as good as the digital. I played last night at a very quiet intimate venue and my system sounded like you were listening to a record....so cool.

Hi Moon Dog, Thanks for the great questions. The answers will apply equally to the T8S too. On the T1® USB from PC is routed directly to the Master output. That's the default, but you can also redirect USB from PC to Channel 4/5 if you want some hands-on control using the Channel 4 Volume Control. If you leave USB from PC routed to the Master Output, it does not take up any resources and all four T1® Channels remain free. On the T4S you can route USB B from PC to Main, AUX, or Channels 3 or...

So upon further review lets talk more about the T4S. The USB audio input can be used for songs between sets. On my current T1 I have to use a channel so this is great because it frees up a channel. So the question for ST here is, will the mixer play the songs on the stick automatically one after the other for example during breaks? I read where you can pick the songs you want to play which is great for specific events that want specific music, but for us giggers, I just need music to play...

This is very exciting! I wonder if they’ve introduced Bluetooth to connection for gig break tunes. Also, VERY cool they’ve allowed reverb on the aux out and independent channels. Anyone have a guess on price? If the T1, right now, is $500....this thing could be a QSC price point...what, $1200? Little steep for me.

The T8S and T4S will be available late February 2018 with U.S. MSRP’s of $899 and $599, respectively. The system is being displayed at the NAMM Show in Anaheim, CA, January 25-28, at booth #18610. https://www.gearslutz.com/boar...r-stereo-mixers.html

Price shows as $899 (less than I expected) for the T8S 8 channel and $599 for the smaller T4S. I've been wanting to add my piano and 2nd vocal position to the show...and this T8S Tonematch is going to be my ticket to do it much easier than the extra gig ready setup I had to go through before. My gosh Bose....you gave me a break for a few years..... and now.....beg, borrow, steal, or take out a second mortgage it will be. Anybody want to buy a good T1 Tonematch Engine? LOL!

Hi mbt0071! Thank you for joining the Bose Pro Portable PA Community. Good eye! The ToneMatch T4S has the digital outputs that connect directly to the L1® Model 1S and L1® Model II. The Master Volume controls both left and right outputs. If you need to control them separately, you would do that using the PAN control for each channel. If you are thinking about setting up a separate monitor mix, consider using the Aux output. Does that help? ST

Hi Auron, The anticipated use-case was: the T8S would be used with the F1 or larger FOH systems. The outputs on the T8S are balanced, analog. The T8S ToneMatch port is for the ToneMatch Power Supply . It is not a digital connection. ST

So. I'm using 2 L1 M2 with 4 B2's at the moment. For big Events I'm taking a Midas M32 with me but it is really heavy. Do you think it makes sense to take the T8S for this usecase? Waited so long for a stereo one.

WOOPS! No connection to tablet or phone app to allow Walk Around Mixing :-{ Very cumbersome awkward multi-screen interface anyway - this would have been a chance to address and improve that.. QSC and Behringer interfaces are significantly more modern and easier to use. Without CLIFF, Bose continues to make decisions WITHOUT the on-stage musician user in mind. Too Bad..

Using 1/4 inch to XLR. Sometimes I have a DI-box between them. The Midas habe 32 xlr inputs and 32 xlr outputs. Usually I‘m using 1 or 2 stereo keyboards ( Yamaha Genos and Tyros 5) and some microphones for singing. For big events I will stay on the M32. When I need most of the 32 inouts for example.

Oh boy, Bose. I am a big Bose advocate, and own a Compact and M2 with 2 B1s and 2 T1s. But, like the new S1 (another post), I am disappointed at the new Tonematches, especially the T8S. I kind of like the T4S, but was hoping for a similar setup on the T8S, so to get more channels. Why are they so different? Isn't that what many Bose users on this forum were also interested in? No audio/power combination so you have to use a power supply? No bluetooth capability? STILL doesn't mount nicely to...

Hi Stos2, Thanks for your thoughtful comments. I agree it would have been nice to have the same setup with two ToneMatch ports on the ToneMatch T8S (like the T4S) With the ToneMatch T8S (with all those inputs), it was likely the user would be running out to two Bose F1 812 systems, or something similar. So we've got XLR and 1/4 inch balanced outputs instead of two ToneMatch ports like the ToneMatch T4S. We can use the same ToneMatch Power Supply for all the ToneMatch mixers (T1, T4s, T8S)...

What surprises me most in this thread is that no-one seems to be asking a question that has been popping up up for years regarding the T1. Have Bose updated/increased the number of presets available to the user? These have been stagnating now for about 10 years or so and many new devices (even from Tonematch partners) have no dedicated preset. For example all new Taylor guitars have the Expression Sytem ES2 which is piezo based. The Presets available are for Expression Sytem ES1 which is...

Seagullman, Good point. I guess I haven't considered it since the presets are there for the instruments I use. But that is not to say they couldn't be tweaked, or that I won't be needing a different one in the near future. I am looking to get an Ovation with the Op Pro Studion preamp. I'm sure the T1 doesn't have a Tonematch setting for that. I agree about getting updated Tonematch settings. I mean, that's the whole reason the T1 exists, right? It's the whole selling point of this unit. You...

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