From perl at minty.org Mon Oct 6 02:25:08 2008
From: perl at minty.org (Murray)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 10:25:08 +0100
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] exponential
Message-ID: <20081006092508.GX6543@minty.org>
by my math, this wed is the anointed day for those still liquid enough
to raise beer credits on the international drinking markets.
and now for something completely different:
http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/09/25/arithmetic-population-and-energy/
From cyocum at gmail.com Mon Oct 6 03:20:51 2008
From: cyocum at gmail.com (Chris Yocum)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 11:20:51 +0100
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] exponential
In-Reply-To: <20081006092508.GX6543@minty.org>
References: <20081006092508.GX6543@minty.org>
Message-ID: <82bb54530810060320q36dcc9d3q4f69cfe3873d2533@mail.gmail.com>
I might be a few minutes late but I will probably be there by 8 or
8:30. See you there!
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Murray wrote:
> by my math, this wed is the anointed day for those still liquid enough
> to raise beer credits on the international drinking markets.
>
> and now for something completely different:
>
> http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/09/25/arithmetic-population-and-energy/
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From asmith9983 at gmail.com Mon Oct 6 04:57:37 2008
From: asmith9983 at gmail.com (A Smith)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 12:57:37 +0100
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] exponential
In-Reply-To: <20081006092508.GX6543@minty.org>
References: <20081006092508.GX6543@minty.org>
Message-ID: <1e11fb0e0810060457l5e641a42s7ba25614bf7e22d9@mail.gmail.com>
I'll be there too from around 7:30pm
--
Andrew
2008/10/6 Murray
> by my math, this wed is the anointed day for those still liquid enough
> to raise beer credits on the international drinking markets.
>
> and now for something completely different:
>
> http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/09/25/arithmetic-population-and-energy/
> _______________________________________________
> Edinburgh-pm mailing list
> Edinburgh-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm
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From rory.macdonald at gmail.com Mon Oct 6 05:20:14 2008
From: rory.macdonald at gmail.com (Rory Macdonald)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 13:20:14 +0100
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] exponential
In-Reply-To: <20081006092508.GX6543@minty.org>
References: <20081006092508.GX6543@minty.org>
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2008/10/6 Murray :
> by my math, this wed is the anointed day for those still liquid enough
> to raise beer credits on the international drinking markets.
I'll be there
From robrwo at gmail.com Mon Oct 6 14:07:37 2008
From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:07:37 +0100
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] exponential
In-Reply-To: <20081006092508.GX6543@minty.org>
References: <20081006092508.GX6543@minty.org>
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Probably won't make it. I've a lot of friends and family visiting this week.
From wim.vanderbauwhede at gmail.com Mon Oct 6 14:32:41 2008
From: wim.vanderbauwhede at gmail.com (Wim Vanderbauwhede)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:32:41 +0100
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] exponential
In-Reply-To: <20081006092508.GX6543@minty.org>
References: <20081006092508.GX6543@minty.org>
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I'll be there
Wim
2008/10/6 Murray
> by my math, this wed is the anointed day for those still liquid enough
> to raise beer credits on the international drinking markets.
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From perl at aaroncrane.co.uk Mon Oct 6 14:46:33 2008
From: perl at aaroncrane.co.uk (Aaron Crane)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:46:33 +0100
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] exponential
In-Reply-To: <20081006092508.GX6543@minty.org>
References: <20081006092508.GX6543@minty.org>
Message-ID: <20081006214633.GF7477@aaroncrane.co.uk>
Murray writes:
> by my math, this wed is the anointed day for those still liquid enough
> to raise beer credits on the international drinking markets.
I'll be there.
--
Aaron Crane ** http://aaroncrane.co.uk/
From rory.macdonald at gmail.com Tue Oct 7 00:26:28 2008
From: rory.macdonald at gmail.com (Rory Macdonald)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 08:26:28 +0100
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] exponential
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References: <20081006092508.GX6543@minty.org>
Message-ID:
2008/10/6 Robert Rothenberg :
> Probably won't make it. I've a lot of friends and family visiting this week.
Whats up, are they PHP coders? ;-)
Rory
From anthony at randell.org Tue Oct 7 01:13:21 2008
From: anthony at randell.org (anthony at randell.org)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 08:13:21 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] exponential
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From rory.macdonald at gmail.com Wed Oct 8 17:10:44 2008
From: rory.macdonald at gmail.com (Rory Macdonald)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 01:10:44 +0100
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Nick's Carp
Message-ID:
Anyone able to make the pic of Nick's Carp available?
Rory
From rory.macdonald at gmail.com Fri Oct 10 05:45:05 2008
From: rory.macdonald at gmail.com (Rory Macdonald)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:45:05 +0100
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Fwd: Slight possibility of a short term contract at
Sopra
In-Reply-To: <468afd1c0810100257t40da5b0cqa66eb7ceefb34f99@mail.gmail.com>
References: <468afd1c0810100257t40da5b0cqa66eb7ceefb34f99@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID:
Cheers for that Anthony, there was at least one person at this month's
meeting considering a change on the work front.
Rory
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Anthony Randell
Date: 2008/10/10
Subject: Slight possibility of a short term contract at Sopra
To: rory.macdonald at gmail.com
Hi Rory,
There's a chance that Sopra may need to bring in a contractor to do a
short term modification contract (I'd expect the basis to be 2 weeks
initially to estimate then 2-3 months) for one of our existing Perl
applications.
I've mentioned your name as a contact should anything arise, if so
could you forward onto the group or any of your contacts that may be
interested? Is this ok? Working remotely is very unlikely to be an
option, work will probably be based in Livingston.
As I've complained on a number of occasions we are a very
bureaucratic, slow moving, dumb elephant so whoever does the work will
need thick skin and much patience. I'm not sure what the market rates
are but I would suggest at least ?30 / hour, possibly more if whoever
does the work is going direct.
The code base itself is not pretty. It's semi object orientated (the
object model is a mess) but it's lacking warnings and strict. It's
difficult to get modules installed so there is a significant amount of
wheel reinvention too. There will be limited scope to rewrite or
replace components where this isn't absolutely essential.
Cheers,
Anthony
From rory.macdonald at gmail.com Fri Oct 10 07:33:01 2008
From: rory.macdonald at gmail.com (Rory Macdonald)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:33:01 +0100
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] cubicle song
Message-ID:
This is probably very old, but I just found out - made my week.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rC0Nsba1fWQ&feature=related
From perl at minty.org Wed Oct 15 00:24:33 2008
From: perl at minty.org (Murray)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:24:33 +0100
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] SSCL Event: Sex,
Lies and Blu-Ray: IP and Video Games
Message-ID: <20081015072433.GM6543@minty.org>
Assuming I can get a place, I'm planning to attend. I'm not a member,
but the last talk they held was free and open to non members.
To book a place e-mail: sscl at ccwlegal.co.uk
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Delivery-date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:43:14 +0100
Subject: SSCL Event Reminder: Sex, Lies and Blu-Ray: IP and Video Games
From: SSCL
To: SSCL
The Scottish Society for Computers & Law
Speaker: Craig Hunter
Sex, Lies and Blu-Ray: IP and Video Games
Tuesday 21 October 2008
6.30 p.m. (registration and refreshments from 6.00 p.m)
at
Burness, 50 Lothian Road, Edinburgh
Video games are big business with year on year growth outstripping more
?traditional? media products. The development of video games from concept to
sale is a lengthy and complex process with numerous stake holders involved in
development, production, publication and distribution. The evolving demands of
?gamers? means a continuing development of the sophistication and interactivity
of each video game.
In addition to the technological issues that require to be dealt with there are
specific challenges in creating unique and non infringing intellectual property
in the context of video game development and production ? particularly when the
video game content may be considered to be ?controversial?.
This presentation examines the state of the video game market globally in
particular the intellectual property issues that require to be considered when
developing video games and video games content as well as the day to day
practicalities involved in dealing with the licensing, publishing and
distribution of video game content and technology across borders and
jurisdictions throughout the world.
Who should come? Both lawyers and non-lawyers particularly those with an
interest in software development not just the development of video games. The
presentation will focus on the practical applications of intellectual property
issues for video games including those which may be deemed to be
?controversial? in nature.
Craig Hunter graduated from Edinburgh University and initially worked for the
Scottish Office on policy formulation. He subsequently entered the computer
games industry as a Producer/Project Manager in 1998 and thereafter became Head
of Production for a major video games developer responsible for the planning
and delivery of numerous titles across various different platforms. He has
been responsible for developing a number of successful titles worldwide based
on internally developed intellectual property as well as additional titles
exploiting existing and licensed intellectual property. He formed Insurgent
Studios Limited in 2005 with Dr Jonathan Dobson and has subsequently worked
with a wide range of clients in the video game sector and the wider software
industry providing a range of consultancy services including external product
review and due diligence, project and software management consultancy, project
development and delivery (working with internal development teams and outsource
partners) and the development of creative works.
To book a place please reply by e-mail to: sscl at ccwlegal.co.uk
CPD ? 1 Hour
From rory.macdonald at gmail.com Thu Oct 23 14:03:47 2008
From: rory.macdonald at gmail.com (Rory Macdonald)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:03:47 +0100
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Writing about Perl culture...
Message-ID:
Hi,
Dave Cross has written a post that might interest anyone wanting to
write about Perl culture.
http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/16/095251
Cheers
Rory
From robrwo at gmail.com Sun Oct 26 09:44:12 2008
From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:44:12 +0000
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [OT] Ubuntu upgrade
Message-ID:
The upgrade to Ibex is coming up in a few days (30 October).
Is anyone up for an "upgrade" party? If it's anything like some of my
past experiences, it would be nice to have a group of people to share
the pain and diagnose problems with (and possibly share adult
beverages to assuage some of that pain).
I'd actually like to put this off for a fortnight until after the
upgrade is out, since I only have one machine at the moment and cannot
afford any downtime. It also gives time for some of the last-minute
kinks to be ironed out.
(And I might need some time to dry out depending on the election results.)
Rob
From miles at assyrian.org.uk Mon Oct 27 04:43:10 2008
From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:43:10 +0000
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [OT] Ubuntu upgrade
In-Reply-To: ;
from robrwo@gmail.com on Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 04:44:12PM +0000
References:
Message-ID: <20081027114310.B10798@assyrian.org.uk>
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 04:44:12PM +0000, Robert Rothenberg wrote:
> The upgrade to Ibex is coming up in a few days (30 October).
>
> Is anyone up for an "upgrade" party? If it's anything like some of my
> past experiences, it would be nice to have a group of people to share
> the pain and diagnose problems with (and possibly share adult
> beverages to assuage some of that pain).
I might be up for this. Getting wifi to work on my various laptops is
usually a fertile source of pain after each upgrade...
Miles
--
A woman may need a man like a fish needs a bicycle, but a woman needs a
bicycle a lot more than a fish needs a man.
-- Helen Nightingale
From cyocum at gmail.com Mon Oct 27 04:53:36 2008
From: cyocum at gmail.com (Chris Yocum)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:53:36 +0000
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [OT] Ubuntu upgrade
In-Reply-To: <20081027114310.B10798@assyrian.org.uk>
References:
<20081027114310.B10798@assyrian.org.uk>
Message-ID: <82bb54530810270453j28b1b8b2u71be5b3ae8ac09b3@mail.gmail.com>
I would also be interested even if I have already done the upgrade
myself before hand.
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Miles Gould wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 04:44:12PM +0000, Robert Rothenberg wrote:
>> The upgrade to Ibex is coming up in a few days (30 October).
>>
>> Is anyone up for an "upgrade" party? If it's anything like some of my
>> past experiences, it would be nice to have a group of people to share
>> the pain and diagnose problems with (and possibly share adult
>> beverages to assuage some of that pain).
>
> I might be up for this. Getting wifi to work on my various laptops is
> usually a fertile source of pain after each upgrade...
>
> Miles
>
> --
> A woman may need a man like a fish needs a bicycle, but a woman needs a
> bicycle a lot more than a fish needs a man.
> -- Helen Nightingale
> _______________________________________________
> Edinburgh-pm mailing list
> Edinburgh-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm
>
From miles at assyrian.org.uk Mon Oct 27 11:05:28 2008
From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:05:28 +0000
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [OT] Ubuntu upgrade
In-Reply-To: ;
from robrwo@gmail.com on Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 04:44:12PM +0000
References:
Message-ID: <20081027180528.A29259@assyrian.org.uk>
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 04:44:12PM +0000, Robert Rothenberg wrote:
> The upgrade to Ibex is coming up in a few days (30 October).
>
> Is anyone up for an "upgrade" party? If it's anything like some of my
> past experiences, it would be nice to have a group of people to share
> the pain and diagnose problems with (and possibly share adult
> beverages to assuage some of that pain).
Would this be an Edinburgh.pm-only event, or would it be OK if I brought
one or two other Ubuntu users of my acquaintance along? I'm thinking my
girlfriend and possibly her brother, not some gigantic ravening horde of
lusers.
Miles
--
Complete the following sentence: People *ought* to weigh bricks, cats
and cinnamon in the same units because...
-- Ian Johnston
From robrwo at gmail.com Mon Oct 27 12:52:45 2008
From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:52:45 +0000
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [OT] Ubuntu upgrade
In-Reply-To: <20081027180528.A29259@assyrian.org.uk>
References:
<20081027180528.A29259@assyrian.org.uk>
Message-ID: <49061C0D.9080004@gmail.com>
On 27/10/08 18:05 Miles Gould wrote:
> Would this be an Edinburgh.pm-only event, or would it be OK if I brought
> one or two other Ubuntu users of my acquaintance along? I'm thinking my
> girlfriend and possibly her brother, not some gigantic ravening horde of
> lusers.
Since it's only in the idea stage with no place or time, bring along anybody
real or imaginary that you'd like.
From asmith9983 at gmail.com Mon Oct 27 15:26:11 2008
From: asmith9983 at gmail.com (Andrew Smith)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:26:11 +0000
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [OT] Ubuntu upgrade
In-Reply-To: <20081027114310.B10798@assyrian.org.uk>
References:
<20081027114310.B10798@assyrian.org.uk>
Message-ID: <49064003.7060204@gmail.com>
I installed Ubuntu 8.04 and then a 306 file upgrade to my Samsung Q1
today. After a while it needed a reboot and magically the touch screen
was working. I need to check the Atheros WiFi when I've time. It used to
work!
--
Andrew
Miles Gould wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 04:44:12PM +0000, Robert Rothenberg wrote:
>
>> The upgrade to Ibex is coming up in a few days (30 October).
>>
>> Is anyone up for an "upgrade" party? If it's anything like some of my
>> past experiences, it would be nice to have a group of people to share
>> the pain and diagnose problems with (and possibly share adult
>> beverages to assuage some of that pain).
>>
>
> I might be up for this. Getting wifi to work on my various laptops is
> usually a fertile source of pain after each upgrade...
>
> Miles
>
>
From perl at aaroncrane.co.uk Wed Oct 29 04:01:48 2008
From: perl at aaroncrane.co.uk (Aaron Crane)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:01:48 +0000
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [OT] Ubuntu upgrade
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20081029110148.GL30095@aaroncrane.co.uk>
Robert Rothenberg writes:
> Is anyone up for an "upgrade" party?
Yes, me too.
> (And I might need some time to dry out depending on the election
> results.)
I understand the traditional options are celebratory libation and
drowning one's sorrows, so drying out afterwards sounds like a good
idea regardless of the outcome. :-)
--
Aaron Crane ** http://aaroncrane.co.uk/
From cyocum at gmail.com Wed Oct 29 08:41:43 2008
From: cyocum at gmail.com (Chris Yocum)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:41:43 +0000
Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [OT] Ubuntu upgrade
In-Reply-To: <20081029110148.GL30095@aaroncrane.co.uk>
References:
<20081029110148.GL30095@aaroncrane.co.uk>
Message-ID: <82bb54530810290841l43bb57cew79da24add97be741@mail.gmail.com>
Well, as we seem to have a quorum of people to attend. Our next point
is where and when?
Chris
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Aaron Crane wrote:
> Robert Rothenberg writes:
>> Is anyone up for an "upgrade" party?
>
> Yes, me too.
>
>> (And I might need some time to dry out depending on the election
>> results.)
>
> I understand the traditional options are celebratory libation and
> drowning one's sorrows, so drying out afterwards sounds like a good
> idea regardless of the outcome. :-)
>
> --
> Aaron Crane ** http://aaroncrane.co.uk/
> _______________________________________________
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> Edinburgh-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm
>