Under the Scales is a podcast by Tom Marshall, longtime songwriter for the band Phish. The podcast captures and brings to light the rich and complex culture surrounding Phish and its diverse, devoted fanbase. Phish's quirky sense of humor pervades and steers the podcast. Tom will interview the band, fans, insiders, outsiders...and dare to go UNDER THE SCALES to uncover the beating heart of Phish!

I interview David Steinberg, long-time Phish fan and the band's unofficial statistician. He's an author and extreme long-distance touring expert. He also times shows...and has the scars to prove it. YouTube version of this podcast.