Yukon UFO "Mothership" Incident: December 11th, 1996

Originally posted by Mr_XIM
It's great reading material, and even with the little videos made about it, that adds to it. It's great fiction and makes your mind wonder, but
thats as far as it goes with me. That big, a mile wide, and nobody had a camera, what about radar, the military would have picked it up, no mention of
them around. I don't believe they would just allow a mile long space ship wonder around.

And how is the US or Canadian military going to stop them??
A report of the incident was presented to the Minister of Defense during question period by the Member of Parliament for the Yukon in the Canadian
House of Commons. It made its way to the Ministry of Defense and was eventually passed on without comment to another civilian amateur UFOlogist.

I think that the possibility of it being a massive helium or hot air baloon was rejected for several reasons. For one thing, it had an ability to move
at extremely high seeds plus the fact that they don't fly such craft in the arctic during the winter due to the hazards of snow accumulation.

Originally posted by epete22
can someone tell me why the same person drew all these images? Seems like some district 9 viral marketing if any of the heavy UFO buffs have never
heard of this case.

LOL The report has been available for years and the incident has been mentioned in multiple UFO documentaries. I can assure you that this has nothing
to do with "District 9" or any other "viral marketing scheme".

I applaud you jkrog08 for the presentation of such a fine post and lets hope that others will take heed and notice that this is what we look
for in a good post, spending a lot of time to put it together and not simply someone that found a CGI creation on YouTube and creates a thread that
says; "OMG, Undeniable Truth That ALIENS/UFO Exist".

Keep up the fine work..!
Johnny

Thanks a lot! That means A LOT coming from such a respected member as yourself.

Thanks to everyone else for your kind words, I am glad to have presented this to you all.

Originally posted by hellfire961
AN1, MA1, CE1. SRR-1 SVR-0 PER-0. To my previous comment so I may shed some light. If the said object existed and passed by as said events by
source(s) reported, it is protocol that the R.C.A.F immediately track and log the U.F.O. To this day, no Canadian government agency has touched the
report. I am not saying that the event did not take place, all I am stating is the event is un-official at this time.

The report was submitted to the Minister of National Defense by the Member of Parliament for the Yukon in the Canadian House of Commons - so to that
extent it is not "unofficial". No records are available on any defense assessment - not too surprising as the Canadian government policy is the same
as the US - see no UFOs, hear no UFOs, and speak not of UFOs. (chuckle, chuckle). Canadian government agencies were invited to a public symposium in
the Yukon where this case was discussed, but they declined to send any representatives.

There is no record that the UFO was even detected on radar and their was certainly no record of any response by National Defense (the RCAF was merged
into the combined national forces back in the late 1960s or early 1970s - so it hasn't existed for about forty years).

Wow, what an incredible story. It makes for an amazing read, but I'm having a hard time thinking it goes any further than that. Thinking logically,
it's extremely difficult to believe that a craft nearly a mile wide traversed a distance of over 134 miles for over a period of 3+ hours during the
prime of the evening, and only 20 people reported it. Unless the population covering those 134 miles is a mere 100 people (which after further study,
is obviously not the case), it's nearly impossible to deem this as a factual story. Nobody called the police, while a craft the size of a small city
overflew them?

What is much easier to believe, is 20 people agreeing to tell the same outlandish story. Just my opinion.

Cheers,
Strype

Edit: Added the parentheses.

[edit on 2-8-2009 by Strype]

The Yukon is very lightly populated. The whole territory has about 50,000 people and the majority live in the community of Whitehorse. That leaves
about 20,000 people spread over the area of Colorado and Utah combined. I believe it was reported on radio the following day (in the Yukon). There are
probably many reasons why it was not widely publicized.

From my experience, very few UFO witnesses ever call the police or national defense to report their sightings - and why would they? For decades, the
government has done its best to discourage reporting of UFOs by pretending that there is nothing behind the sightings.

I think that the possibility of it being a massive helium or hot air baloon was rejected for several reasons. For one thing, it had an ability
to move at extremely high seeds plus the fact that they don't fly such craft in the arctic during the winter due to the hazards of snow accumulation.

Correct, I forgot about reading that. Blimps in winter in the extreme cold and snow is a no go.

Thanks, I just wonder what kind of massive Earth based airship it could be. It would definitely have to be a black world craft. I have been told of
one large in size, but nothing like this or the shape, let alone if what I was told was even true, although I personally think so, for many
reasons.

PS: Sorry for leaving your name out earlier when I posted something containing lists of great contributing members in the UFO forum. I knew I left out
someone, and it was one of the tops!

Very well put together.... a great read.... it's just a shame no-one had an actual camera to take photos or a video camera.... all the facts as they
were seen down on paper always leaves a little doubt though.... they said it was possibly the size of a football pitch but going by the video it looks
more like the size of a weather balloon or could it not have been a slightly larger weather balloon than average? I'm sure all those lights can
easily be fitted onto a weather balloon..... plus the speed of it seems to match the speed of a weather balloon! Ok... they did say there was no sound
but they were a long way from it and the weather that day may have been a little more windy then they are letting on or maybe they were so interested
in this ufo that the wind speed didn't register..... if the wind was blowing easterly then you would only need to add a little thrust! Even an
airship which makes no noise could easily be built to the circumference of what has been seen. It disappeared behind an imaginary wall!! Are you sure?
What was this wall? Some kind of wormhole?

There are people out there who like to play games with peoples minds.....

Anyway..... i'm not going to dismiss it as it could have been a ufo.... you are 98% but i would put it at 50%

Thanks for your kind words.The UFO was close enough to many witnesses that they should have heard it if it made any kind of sound. Also during one
witness encounter (PEL1) the UFO rapidly speed up when the witness shined a flashlight at it and then abruptly stopped when he stopped. That
eliminates the weather balloon theory in all likelyhood. As far as a blimp in the arctic, that would not be considered in all likelyhood because the
extreme cold and snow accumulation. Also, I know of no weather balloon that stays at a low altitude or is a mile in diameter.

Very well put together.... a great read.... it's just a shame no-one had an actual camera to take photos or a video camera.... all the facts as they
were seen down on paper always leaves a little doubt though.... they said it was possibly the size of a football pitch but going by the video it looks
more like the size of a weather balloon or could it not have been a slightly larger weather balloon than average? I'm sure all those lights can
easily be fitted onto a weather balloon..... plus the speed of it seems to match the speed of a weather balloon!
[edit on 2-8-2009 by TruthxIsxInxThexMist]

You should read through the reports posted on UFOBC. The size of the object was established by triangulating the angular size of the object from
multiple witnesses who were viewing the same object over Fox Lake at the same time - from locations many miles separated. Based on this comparison,
the object was about half a mile wide, which is about 2000 times the diameter of a weather balloon.

You obviously can't tell the size from a two dimensional video image which was simply one artist's attempts to animate.

Very well put together.... a great read.... it's just a shame no-one had an actual camera to take photos or a video camera.... all the facts as they
were seen down on paper always leaves a little doubt though.... they said it was possibly the size of a football pitch but going by the video it looks
more like the size of a weather balloon or could it not have been a slightly larger weather balloon than average? I'm sure all those lights can
easily be fitted onto a weather balloon..... plus the speed of it seems to match the speed of a weather balloon!
[edit on 2-8-2009 by TruthxIsxInxThexMist]

You should read through the reports posted on UFOBC. The size of the object was established by triangulating the angular size of the object from
multiple witnesses who were viewing the same object over Fox Lake at the same time - from locations many miles separated. Based on this comparison,
the object was about half a mile wide, which is about 2000 times the diameter of a weather balloon.

You obviously can't tell the size from a two dimensional video image which was simply one artist's attempts to animate.

True but isn't it possible to make a weather balloon bigger than the norm or like i said an Airship! Airships are huge vehicles and they are quiet
when in motion.... if one can be built oblong and that big i'm sure one can be built oval with a huge circumference..... again i stress i'm not
saying it's a lie, i'm just saying the possibility is there..... I would love to see a craft, any craft which wasn't man-made up close then i'd
probably notch my percentage up on this sighting to 90%

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMistTrue but isn't it possible to make a weather balloon bigger than the norm or like i said an Airship! Airships are huge vehicles and they are quiet
when in motion.... if one can be built oblong and that big i'm sure one can be built oval with a huge circumference..... again i stress i'm not
saying it's a lie, i'm just saying the possibility is there..... I would love to see a craft, any craft which wasn't man-made up close then i'd
probably notch my percentage up on this sighting to 90%

I agree with you that the most convincing conventional explanation would be some sort of "lighter-than-air" ship, even though they are not flown in
the arctic in the winter. Presumeably, a "high-tech" airship could have surface deicing to melt off snow. The main arguement against the idea that
this craft and other huge UFOs being such craft is the reported observation of extremely high speeds and instantaneous
accelerations/deccelerations.

But for any person who has never seen any craft that have this "other-worldy/extremely highly advanced technology", I would agree they are justified
in their scepticism of the claims. I think I would be much more sceptical towards all such UFOs if I had never seen something that was truly way
beyond present human capability.

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
True but isn't it possible to make a weather balloon bigger than the norm or like i said an Airship!

Only problem with your argument is that such a huge weather balloon or airship would be logged in official records. You cannot just release a huge
weather balloon anywhere you feel like and an Airship has to obey FAA regulations and file a flight plan like any other aircraft

Are you skeptics so desperate you need to shout out 'weather balloon' and 'airship' in bold?

I doubt it was a weather ballon or blimp or anything, you would need to consider a whole lot for this damn thing to fly..lol.. If its as massive as it
says it was, then I find it hard to believe it was any of those things seriously, also lights wouldn't be activated on them. Especially lights that
BIG. Again, I am a skeptic of ALiens, but this is one of the better cases to support the theory

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
True but isn't it possible to make a weather balloon bigger than the norm or like i said an Airship!

Only problem with your argument is that such a huge weather balloon or airship would be logged in official records. You cannot just release a huge
weather balloon anywhere you feel like and an Airship has to obey FAA regulations and file a flight plan like any other aircraft

Are you skeptics so desperate you need to shout out 'weather balloon' and 'airship' in bold?

Wouldn't be logged if the airfields out that way were told to let them fly by.... plus there are no airstrips in the foresaid area so there wouldn't
be much need to avoid low flying aircraft or gain permission to fly through that way.....

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