Kommentar von michaelg

Kommentar von Artabas

It is not "a weapon for warrior cause they have Titan's grip".It is just a weapon for 2H melee dps.

Kommentar von Buttspawn

As a Death Knight, I'd like to say this is a DK-first weapon. :P

Since Strength is a tanking stat for us, and you pretty much can only tank with 2-handers...yeah. But meh, that's the beauty of shared loot. At least I'm pretty much another DPS class WHILE tanking. :P

And for the record..yes I know Death Knights can dual-wield. If you know anything about tanking, you don't WANT to dual-wield (Parry gibbing ftl).

Kommentar von Suacro

If you want to post comments like this, I would like to direct you to thottbot..

Wowhead is the place where only constructive and useful comments are appreciated. ''OMFG this is clearly a <insert class> weapon'' kind of comments are silly and unwelcome.

Kommentar von MajorArmstrong

DeAtH iS goNnA bItE yOu! O.o

Kommentar von Slight315

i want two of them... 62 hit rating, when a TG warrior needs 500, on both of your weapons is, to say the least, pretty sweet. But i'll agree with other posters, this is amazing for DK's and Pali's as well.

Kommentar von sd78

Fantastic for Orc DKs especially.

Kommentar von Rogabr

ladies and gentlemen.. the new gorehowl.

Kommentar von cushdmf

Carn't wait to be dueling two of these axes ;)

Kommentar von dunraven

Why rate down his comment? Thats exactly what this is. Also, Titan's Grip is a retarded spec. L2warrior.

Kommentar von Urish

I like the way this looks...cant wait till i get on my DK!

Kommentar von tangara45

Fyi, you didn't say what you think you said. I wouldn't be terribly worried about dueling two of these, fury warrior's are terrible at PvP.

However, I also can't wait to dual wield these. I'm already thinking of a raid setup with me as the only U (me as prot, feral druid, casters, hunters, non-pally healers...)

Kommentar von Rodriguez

Perfect stats! Due the lack of hit rating on gear, this weapon is highly recommended for Warriors, Paladins!

Kommentar von Clyph

The new Severance.

Kommentar von roflkyae

Ugly as hell. OP as hell.

I'd love two of these with TG..

Kommentar von vebba

Omg! Nice wep! I agreed! Would love to have them whit Titan Grip! Tath would be awsom!

Kommentar von FuzionInfinity

Agreed.. Would be amazing for Titan's Grip..

Kommentar von sickmeduck

LOL du ma! con cac!

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Kommentar von polekitten

looks gnarly, bet it would look sick on a dk with full t7

unfortunately i am only lv71 on mine so far :(

Kommentar von Leeeroooy

As far as i'm aware mate, DKs don't have a t7 yet, or a season set.

Although this is a great wepon for Death Knights, along with many other classes :)

Kommentar von Pondus93

this would prolly bite you pretty hard^^ xD

Kommentar von Scrondiddly

As an Orc Titan's Grip Fury Warrior, I can only pray to dual wield two of these. Even bypassing the others stats, with all that hit and bonus expertise i'm drooling just at the thought of capping my hit, let alone 202 attack power and 2% crit on each.

Kommentar von beastwd

All 2handers should be itemized this well (although a little slower). Tired of having mediocre stats like agi and haste all over warrior (edit: and DK/ret, of course) weapons.

Kommentar von TiT4N

Perfect Retri weapon, right ?

strengh + hit + crit :D

Kommentar von Spah

Thankfully a weapon that has both hit and crit. However, as a Retribution Paladin, the (relatively) fast speed disappoints me. The only weapon so far in Naxxramas that goes well with Seal of Command is the Wraith Spear from Maexxna., however, I won't be hoping to get that before my guild's Hunters have it.

Kommentar von Hetarow

As a ret paladin there are very few fights which i use seal of command for. Fights which are hard on healers is the only time in pve i use soc. leo,4 horseman as a 25 man and saph come to mind.

33% damage taken on a 9500 judgement crit can make for more healing having to be done than necessary.

Kommentar von Zrom

Yeah, but we're the only class which matters.

Kommentar von Zrom

Yeah, but we're the only class which matters.

Kommentar von Jurvi

No, you're a tanking class

Kommentar von JamieG

Seal of Command in PvE where healers are stressed enough as it is without being able to throw some heals or HoTs on you is no longer viable when you have Seal of Blood or Martyr. Less Judgement damage, and nobody likes playing roulette with procs.

Admittedly, this weapon is faster than what is ideal for Command, but just fine for Blood/Martyr (which is why Alliance paladins were shafted by the increase of haste rating in T6, as blood elves with Blood got more of a benefit with haste than Alliance stuck with Command).

Besides, chances are that you won't get a weapon with higher damage around this level, regardless of speed!

Kommentar von ashmond

Very good replacement from Sword of Justice for DK tank so far.

Kommentar von MasterLoco

The green stone in the middle is probably a piece of saronite.

Kommentar von Windriver

Let us all just face the facts. This is a good weapon for a number of classes and specs. Everybody and their mother is going to want one, and TG warriors are going to want two.

Though, on a personal note, with all the +agi weapons in the game so far, if a hunter rolls on this, I'll Overpower their face.

EDIT: Spelling (twice ><)

Kommentar von daryon

Here we go again , like every two hander that hunters can use have a post like that one , gz on being the first one on this weapon .

Kommentar von Talwin

LoL you n00b, he's not saying its a Hunter Weapon, he's saying if he see's a Hunter with it he'll have a fit!

Kommentar von TheJesus

Just so you know, the picture shown here is a little misleading.

I just got it and put Massacre on it, the whole thing glows red now. So don't be mislead by the clown-ish looks it has on the picture above. :P

Kommentar von Gummy

i would really like this for my retadin. the only thing is i really wish some of the naxx and heroic gear were mixed with stats because alot of heroic gear has &*!@ tons of hit while naxx gear has haste and a lil bit of hit, but still nasty damage and wicked stats

Kommentar von Flaks

Obviously one of the if not THE best in slot item for people doing 10 mans and heroics, paladins, warriors and death knights alike. I would just like to point out that if a guild is progressing through 10 man naxx only to continue on to 25 man, this weapon is the only epic weapon with a healthy dose of hit on it (with other vital stats like crit). So please be wary if there's that little titan's grip warrior who has yet to reach 450 hit rating (or whatever the hit soft cap is); we need some love and blizzard is short on giving it to us apparently. Don't forget that Blizzard is planning to take titan's grip penalty back up- possibly to 12%, so we'll be needing hit more than ever soon enough. (Check mmo-champion for the blue post; it's some weeks old now.)

Kommentar von lukeluggage

This baby is going to my Retri Pally ;)

Kommentar von lukeluggage

And by the way, Its Seal of Martyrdom that syphons your HP.Not Seal of Command.

Kommentar von Venorik

Perfectly Agree, I have a fury as well as a Retribution, this axe is incredible for both class's and DK's as well.

Kommentar von Applejax

The description says that the yellow glow isn't overwritten by other enchantment effects. I don't know about normal enchantments, but the effect is overwritten by Runeforging enchants.

Kommentar von bibila

what's drop rate of this item ?

Kommentar von leonffs

unfortunately you pretty much need this or similar to be anything decent at arena as a war/pal/dk as of right now..

Kommentar von polekitten

with strength versus attack power and no haste, this item is the best itemized weapon for a death knight in wow, statwise. though a dk might see a slight dps gain from using betrayer of humanity, this is the best all-around weapon, useful in pvp and in pve dps or tanking roles.

keep that in mind, warriors and paladins, when you roll on this against a death knight. you're rolling on the pinnacle of death knight weapons

Kommentar von gaeryth

Everyone praising it is good and all, but seriously this weapon is way too fast to be called good for me. The stats are perfectly well made but it's 3.4 a speed weapon. If they had delayed its swings by say 0.2 seconds I'd fall in love with this weapon.

Kommentar von Cylexanim

My guild was running 10 man naxx and i just won it with a roll of 100

Kommentar von PinktheDK

Love this thing. Just got it about an hour and a half prior to the weekly reset!

Kommentar von Aurrius

Shame it's so good, because it is horrendously hideous.

Kommentar von deathssagar

im a tank and id use this on my dk but i see were people are geting 2 with TG on a warrior it makes me want to get a warrior lol

Kommentar von tosbanzai

If a fury warrior was lucky enough to secure two of these, that's 124 hit rating on just your weapon slots alone.

This free sup a lot for enchants, gems, and itemization.

Kommentar von HavocZephyr

I just got this thing from Kel yestarday, such a sweet piece of fleshy metal <3

I can't fathom to think how badass a Titan's gripped Fury warrior would be wielding 2 of these lulz

Kommentar von storm0024

very true, i am specd blood DK, have ~22k armor ~500def 12% parry and dodge, around 21% crit unbuffed, and 20k hp unbuffed. i love tanking with him with the self heals and group heals with glyph of rune tap its awesome. This would be great as i prefer tanking with my 2h axe although i have two tanking maces for main and off hand. I would absolutley love this weapon to drop once i hit up naxx. Level 78 atm got maybe 4-5 days till i level as i try to avoid leveling as much as possible rofl

Kommentar von BabyToe

just got this tonight, so happy, gonna dual wield it with Claymore of Ancient Power untill i get something better =P

Kommentar von Awakened

and now that the next patch will take out the hit penalty on Titans grip, fury will need even less hit

No. You still want around 350 hit after the "buff" for steady rage generation.

Removing the 5% yellow miss on titan grip only effects people who arent hit capped now(everyone should be anyway...) and it makes it more viable for pvp.

Kommentar von shabooty

So all of you guys saying this is better than Betrayer of humanity, that's your opinion i guess. but when you say "i would still use this over betrayer...." shut up. you know damn well all your greedy asses would try and pick up betrayer if it dropped even if you had this axe.

Kommentar von Ideonl33t

tbh, as a ret i would take betrayer if it dropped, but for ppl who are still missing some hit for the cap, this is a nice weap :)

but tbh i dont understand why put attack power and agi on a 2h axe (betrayer), not like paladins, warriors and dks need those, unless...HUNTER WEAPON!

Kommentar von mclegg721

not to burst your bubble, but ret pallys are only good for their replenishment. Their DPS is fairly crappy compared to other melee dps classes these days:P fury warriors and 2 handed DKs that are actually good should have this over ret pallies

Kommentar von luvnmym3

Hate to burst your bubble. Ret pally here, and I pretty much destroy Warriors and DK's in DPS.

This is a great Weapon for Ret Pally's, Warriors, and DK's.

Kommentar von beastwd

Heh, no. It's pretty much undisputed fact that TG warriors do more dps than ret pallies, and DK's are typically higher also.

Kommentar von drjos

This axe also gives 2084 damage in druid forms which is odd because druids can't use axes. You screwed up blizz

Edit: It looks like only druids can see the added APbonus in forms. Weird.

Kommentar von soupz

Nice Axe, Perfect for Hunter!

Kommentar von Gurggy

Hit capping post 3.0.8 for Fury Warriors is fairly simple math.

the conversion between hit rating and hit percentage is approximately 32.79 rating = 1% hit chance. You can only add hit rating in whole numbers, so, you will need (after the patch)

Recall that main hand and yellow strikes suffer a 9% miss chance versus mobs 3 levels higher than you, and off hand attacks suffer a 24% miss chance versus the same mobs.

I think this is the reason that most people still recommend around 350 hit rating, it gives about a 10.67% hit percentage which eliminates misses from your main weapon and yellow strikes and reduces your miss chance for your off hand weapon to 13.33% (wo precision) or 10.33% (with precision).

However, the rating equivalent to pre - patch hit capping (which was 361 hit rating, by the way) is now only 197 (these were both calculated assuming precision).

You can still take more if you like, but 197 is the new Precision hit cap after the patch, and I personally would like to add more critical strike rating, expertise and / or attack power rather than trying to make sure my off hand white strikes hit more often. It's a balance game and ultimately I think it pays to try not to go overboard on any one stat.

Kommentar von Magnas007

Second-best DK tanking weapon after Inevitable Defeat in my humble opinion. Amazing for just about any melee 2h user... which just goes to show how well weapons in Wrath are itemized (or how poorly from the perspective of someone that's run heroic HoL 28 times and never rolled better than a 24 on the axe) so that nothing is wasted.

Kommentar von dunraven

Contrary to popular belief, haste is not a bad stat for DKs. That was an old school of thought before a few facts were known or considered:

Kommentar von jiveturtle

Kommentar von Trygvetd

By using the unholy scale from ElitistJerks.com in the Unholy DPS Discussion, I compared Death's Bite and Betrayer of humanity.

The results were as following:Betrayer of humanity - 105.6Death's Bite - 107.06

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've seen here, Death's Bite is better for an unholy DK.

Kommentar von Zulathar

This weapon has the same model as Severance from Patchwerk in 40 man Naxxramas.

Kommentar von Luqian

In my honest opinion this is currently the best weapon in slot for an Unholy Death Knight unless you are hit capped, (294 hit)

Kommentar von Feldorn

I will not say that this is the best weapon in the game for DKs (betrayer is obviously better), but it's definately the best itemized weapon stat wise, by far.

Kommentar von zirilan

so this dropped for my guilds 10 man naxx run, we use need / greed in game rolls to save time (i have it on my death knight so i passed) our other death knight is waiting for Armageddon (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40343) as he is a looks freak. we happened to have a pug hunter from our servers top guild. in the run as well so after our fury warrior rolled need and we thought everyone had passed the hunter rolls need and wins -.- then replys in vent saying "strength is the same as attack power for hunters isn't it?" -.- sigh i hate stupid people

Kommentar von Teneb

so this dropped for my guilds 10 man naxx run, we use need / greed in game rolls to save time (i have it on my death knight so i passed) our other death knight is waiting for Armageddon (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40343) as he is a looks freak. we happened to have a pug hunter from our servers top guild. in the run as well so after our fury warrior rolled need and we thought everyone had passed the hunter rolls need and wins -.- then replys in vent saying "strength is the same as attack power for hunters isn't it?" -.- sigh i hate stupid people

Kommentar von glorath

1. Noob hunter.2. L2 Master Loot.

Kommentar von Luqian

Why the hell is my earlier comment purged? I'm saying the same as glorath... Of course it's not better than Betrayer IF you are hit capped... ffs

Kommentar von Caemon

I also hate that Betrayer has attack power as opposed to strength. Now that I have the axe, I see how the gain of top end damage far outweighs the absence of strength. Especially since I'm diseaseless blood spec for the time being (it's being nerfed in 3.1), the agility benefits melee hit nicely, and the top end damage makes Dancing Rune Weapon unreal. Betrayer is far better than Death's Bite ;)

Kommentar von barringerlr

any one know what enchant would be best on this for a retadin?

Kommentar von Groundlord

How does this thing rank for DK tanks? To me, 101 Strength and 114 Stam sound pretty nice (Forceful Deflection FTW); just slap Stoneskin Gargoyle on it and it's ready.Not to mention that the Hit is a bonus for your spells, and the Crit boost will help with your threat generation.

Kommentar von stathisdjs

Also sold by vendors in the Tournament.

Kommentar von doder451

According to wowgala.com, this is one of the most popular items amongst the top500 pve-guilds worldwide.Looking at the member of theses guilds, this is the most popular -item of the classes:

Fury Warrior

Blood Death Knight

It's the second-most popular -item for:

Fury Warrior

Frost Death Knight

Arms Warrior

It's the third-most popular -item for:

Retribution Paladin

Unholy Death Knight

Kommentar von KikiTheMan

This item was created when Death , KT's lil doggy bit him :D

Kommentar von Nastik

I can think of 3 reasons for this.

He wanted to *!@# off the lower guilds on the server.

Oh, and use Master Loot!

Kommentar von goffstownbeatles

Hey should I get this or stick with my Titansteel Destroyer?

Kommentar von Nexxi94

In my honest opinion this is currently the best weapon in slot for an Unholy Death Knight unless you are hit capped, (294 hit)

Actually, Betrayer of Humanity is better simply because it's got that sweet, sweet 220 Deeps... and just generally providing better (although, less optimized for DK) stats.

I Agree , Betrayer of Humanity is simply better then Death`s Bite , but neither of them can be compared with Ulduar weapons . Here are some examples :

Tho both of thesee dont have +hit rating as Death`s Bite , you might want to choose them in front of others.

Kommentar von Greyspectre

I liked its old name better: Severance used to drop off patchwerk, great weapon, I just like the old name better.

Kommentar von supercrem9

I have been farming this stupid thing for weeks! i cannot get this thing to drop and even though i out DPS most people i do heroics with that have full valorous, i'm not geared enough for 25 man Naxx pugs. I cant get my hands on this and i cant do 25 man. I desperately want to upgrade from Titansteel destroyer, o yeah im a ret pally.

Kommentar von fatsausage

Kommentar von Kaze14

Great weapon, i got 2 with Mongoose, recomended for any Warrior or maybe a pally

5 Star Weapon

Kommentar von Dkkiller

well not really cuz besides betrayer of humanaty this is a VERY nice wep for titans grip wars dk's and pallys as pre ulduar :D

Kommentar von assassin384

I got this on my 80 straight up DPS spec DK. This weapon has beat all of the others I've seen drop in any 10-man content. This axe has brought my DPS up and it also looks very nice not to be confused with the picture icon you see =D

Kommentar von AlabamaIceman

I witnessed this item being referred to as "Death Bites" by a hapless individual in my guild chat the other day. Fun was made.

Kommentar von Latias714

If you are an Orc, this is 5 free expertise, or 41 expertise rating. Expertise does matter, by the way.

Kommentar von mek002

Very cool weapon - am kicking butt with 2 :0) one has moongoose and 110+ap - , My gm was happy it dropped .. the guild was getting sick of faming the axe from HOL which i had at the time when death's bite dropped :)