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Just as an FYI, we're changing the September sim schedule and breaking it up into 3 days like a normal month. Now that we've shortened the season so much there is no point in running September in two sims. The "Important Dates" thread has been edited to reflect this change.

After talking it through with Ty, we've decided to suspend the "5 Year Rule". While we did like its affect in terms of pushing people to win, we were not happy with some of the ways it forced people to do so. While we have "suspended" the rule for now, and will continue to discuss privately with way so to improve it, we still reserve the right to re-apply the rule to the league if we feel that teams are starting to "tank" again.

The 2031 season will bring our 1st season on OOTP 15 and our 19th overall. That being said, we will be giving everyone a fresh slate. What that essentially means is, along with the "suspension" of the 5 year rule, we're acting as if no team lost money this year. So outside of the already open Phillies, everyone will be moving to OOTP 15 with us (so long as you buy the game). However, we encourage you to be responsible the rest of the year. All contract dumping rules still apply, so please dont be a douche and try to game the system. We're doing this to help people out, dont abuse it.

Meh, if Knowles wants to tank, then let him. Tanking is incredibly stupid in baseball, theres a reason why the top teams in the league have never had to do it.

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My issue isn't the tanking, it's the frequency of promotion/relegation. Nippon is struggling as is - the infusion of new blood in 15 should help, but I want to incentive them to be active and do well. We've seen that very few teams will go in the red, as there are always trade partners willing to take bad contracts for the right price. You would have to be totally negligent or inactive to go in the red twice in a row.

Either way, I don't like the idea of reassessing if people are tanking as we go along. What constitutes 'tanking' in this case? You need to quantify things and lay them out clearly, otherwise there will be unrest and confusion. Draw a hard line one way or the other. Reassess the promotion/relegation structure or get rid of Nippon altogether. NeuroticTruthty5okeDrifterbub

I do appreciate all the work you guys have put in and will support the league no matter what, I just feel compelled to voice concerns.

Per some conversation on skype last night, I think it would be awesome if Nippon would pick up and thrive as it's own league (still in our universe obviously). There's an extremely successful league I came across called PEBA that does this, and it would be really cool. Reading up on the league a bit, they were basically in the exact same situation we were in. Here's a quote from their forums on why they started their version of the Nippon.

Prior to the start of human control of the LRS, we had such stable ownership that there was actually a somewhat deep waiting list to get a PEBA team. John was worried that owners would find another league if they were on a waiting list for months, so he initially opened up the LRS to human control as a sort of a "waiting room" for owners, where they could have fun running a team and then take over a PEBA team when a spot was available. During the process of turning the LRS "human," owners became so attached to their teams that the original concept was dropped and the LRS was simply turned from an AI league into a human league.

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If we can get the Nippon full (or close) when we move to OOTP 15, and get people attached to their teams over there I think it could really thrive.

Per some conversation on skype last night, I think it would be awesome if Nippon would pick up and thrive as it's own league (still in our universe obviously). There's an extremely successful league I came across called PEBA that does this, and it would be really cool. Reading up on the league a bit, they were basically in the exact same situation we were in. Here's a quote from their forums on why they started their version of the Nippon.

If we can get the Nippon full (or close) when we move to OOTP 15, and get people attached to their teams over there I think it could really thrive.

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I'm not really understanding this. Are they two separate leagues with no FA interaction, or just both leagues with no relegation/promotion attached to it so people don't think of one league as being above the other?

My issue isn't the tanking, it's the frequency of promotion/relegation. Nippon is struggling as is - the infusion of new blood in 15 should help, but I want to incentive them to be active and do well. We've seen that very few teams will go in the red, as there are always trade partners willing to take bad contracts for the right price. You would have to be totally negligent or inactive to go in the red twice in a row.

Either way, I don't like the idea of reassessing if people are tanking as we go along. What constitutes 'tanking' in this case? You need to quantify things and lay them out clearly, otherwise there will be unrest and confusion. Draw a hard line one way or the other. Reassess the promotion/relegation structure or get rid of Nippon altogether. NeuroticTruthty5okeDrifterbub

I do appreciate all the work you guys have put in and will support the league no matter what, I just feel compelled to voice concerns.

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I like the idea of not making someone eligible for lottery more than 3 years in a row. That way, their pick would be placed after all of the lottery teams, but before playoff teams.

Four-five years? Maybe their first round pick comes at the end of first round. Maybe they can't sign international Free Agents.