Thanks for bringing that up! I have been very much considering an alternative since the payrate for adsense plummeted incredibly when it was getting the same amount of traffic! Media.net is interested so I might try them for a while and see how they work out, I believe they are a partnership between yahoo and bing. Thanks for the links! Also if the Sandbox Kickstarter is successful then I'll probably remove ads from the site completely as I think people are somewhat bothered by them and also it does take away people from the site. Take care and thank you for the suggestions!-mike