Worthless: Too far gone to justify the time to fix

His last 4 games he's been 1-3, with about a 45% completion record (worst since the Ravens starting QB in '99 over 4 straight games), and has the worst first 5 game completion percentage since the great JaMarcus Russell. Given that he's also undeniably had some good games and some competent ones where essentially he stayed out of his offense's way, the question arises:

How much market value can the jets command for this former 5th pick in the here & now?

1st Round Pick or more - acquired to be preemptive starter on some other teams (name teams)

Based on that and despite our misgivings towards Sanchez you think he would at least command a 2nd rounder.
Like it or not he was a 4 year starter and had taken his team to the playoffs.
He is also 25 so only one year older than Tannehill.

Possible targets?
LA expansion franchise(if it happens soon)
KC- though I doubt they will want to invest in another backup.
Seattle- If Wilson and Flynn ultimately fail. In light of
Oakland

I said 4th, but a team could probably be strong-armed into a 3rd, and maybe even a 2nd if desperate enough. QB values are much higher than other positions, so despite a subpar performance in his career so far, I think some team would look at his youth and a few of the times he has flashed and figure with better coaching, maybe they can help him follow Alex Smith's career trajectory. I don't see a team that needs a QB and has that staff in place though. Seattle might be the most likely landing spot, considering the Pete Carrol connection...

Based on that and despite our misgivings towards Sanchez you think he would at least command a 2nd rounder.
Like it or not he was a 4 year starter and had taken his team to the playoffs.
He is also 25 so only one year older than Tannehill.

Possible targets?
LA expansion franchise(if it happens soon)
KC- though I doubt they will want to invest in another backup.
Seattle- If Wilson and Flynn ultimately fail. In light of
Oakland

I also believe that Sanchez needs to get out of NY as soon as possible and find himself a smaller market team.

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this. After seeing my team waste a pick on aj feely I could never see giving more than a 5th rounder for Sanchez. He has regressed and is near the bottom of every major statistic this season. The only thing good he has going is that he is young and coachable.

Why would any team want Sanchez unless they are sure that the Jets have totally screwed up his coaching or have him in the wrong system? It would be different if he had periods of consistent success but he has been bad poor more often than good. Perhaps a reclamation project like Carson Palmer or an injury risk like Brees. You don't bring in Sanchez planning for him to compete for a starting job, therefore you don't give up more than a 5th round pick.

There is not a single starter in the NFL who was previously a 4 year failure on another team.

Gotta look at past trades to establish value, and exclude any fluke trades(basically anything the Raiders have done).

Hes not as "blockbuster" as Kevin Kolb or Daunte Culpepper. Kolb was a relative unknown who had potential and Culpepper was a former high performing starter.
Hes not as bust as, say, Trent Green was for us, who we spent a conditional 5th on. Or even a Shaun Hill type situation who went for a 7th.

Steve McNair went for a 4th and id say that sounds about right. Though id have a hard time seeing anyone spend a 4th on a fourth year vet who hasnt lived up to expectations.

Ted, I would agree except for the perception (misplaced I think) that Sanchez has more upside than Moore.. although Moore would presently make any team a better one that Sanchez. Even though I started the poll, I'm still twixt and tween between "4th" and "5th" round value .. cause actually I'd be pissed if Moore, who an argument can be made that he's presently the 3rd best QB in the division, goes for anything less than a 4th.

So although as the 6th round option I meant "Painter" (whom the jest are so proud of beating in the second half of game 15 in 09), I will continue to "ponder" this myself. :up:

Ted, I would agree except for the perception (misplaced I think) that Sanchez has more upside than Moore.. although Moore would presently make any team a better one that Sanchez. Even though I started the poll, I'm still twixt and tween between "4th" and "5th" round value .. cause actually I'd be pissed if Moore, who an argument can be made that he's presently the 3rd best QB in the division, goes for anything less than a 4th.

So although as the 6th round option I meant "Painter" (whom the jest are so proud of beating in the second half of game 15 in 09), I will continue to "ponder" this myself. :up:

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I took into account that the Chiefs may be in the market for a QB and I would be willing to bet they would rather take Moore. Call it a hunch if you want, but outside of them, neither will get more then a 5th IMHO.

Jacksonville will be looking for a QB. Gabbert looks like he's the first of the young highly drafted QBs to be a bust. He looks so bad that it won't be too long before Henne gets tapped on the shoulder and they see what the Robot has to offer. The Jags may well be in the running for Barkley but a 4 playoff game winner like Sanchez could be given an opportunity in Jax.

Jacksonville will be looking for a QB. Gabbert looks like he's the first of the young highly drafted QBs to be a bust. He looks so bad that it won't be too long before Henne gets tapped on the shoulder and they see what the Robot has to offer. The Jags may well be in the running for Barkley but a 4 playoff game winner like Sanchez could be given an opportunity in Jax.

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Shonn green has more playoff wind than mjd. Maybe they should pick him up to. Heck. Rex grossman made it to the Super Bowl. That's who Jax should really go after

Jacksonville will be looking for a QB. Gabbert looks like he's the first of the young highly drafted QBs to be a bust. He looks so bad that it won't be too long before Henne gets tapped on the shoulder and they see what the Robot has to offer. The Jags may well be in the running for Barkley but a 4 playoff game winner like Sanchez could be given an opportunity in Jax.

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Pretty sure long term a different Jets QB will be their franchise QB. Isnt he a local? And dont they need to sell tickets? Makes sense to me.

Its's ironic isn't it that we're "blessed" with the full-court presence of the most homeristic poster from the most delusional jets forum of the 3, isn't it?

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I would be lying if I said there hasn't been more than one occasion where I've actually lol'd in real life with the stuff he's come up with. It's kinda like that nutty uncle who no one wants to sit next to at the family reunion but whose absurdness actually cuts through some of the monotony. Not sure if I'd miss the little guy if he left but I find it intriguing, amazing, baffling and downright hilarious at times to see what people can convince themselves of when their entire thought process is completely based on emotion rather than rational thought

Okay, despite that Sanchez's biggest, most vacuum-visioned fluffer keeps maintaining I'm a non-objective homer, I'm gonna prove that ASSumption wrong by voting sincerely that I believe Taco could make a good, reliable back-up providing he can get his head on straight - so indeed he's worth a 5th round pick. I could have as easily said he's Curtis Painter-like or worthless at this point just to be arbitrary but that's not what I really believe. :idk:

Then again, for years I've been maintaining that the difference between Sanchez and Henne is the cast of characters, especially the OL that either had to deal with, and of course that no matter whatever else you may say about Chad, at least his testicles have dropped. So objectively speaking I think those two are worth about the same value with about the same upside, although IMO, neither one of them comes close to Matt Moore either from a fundamental nor intangible standpoint.

Could be anything from a 3rd round pick to a 5th round pick. Depends how generous, or desperate, the other teams general manager is. The guy isn't a great QB, but he could be a dependable backup QB, and someone may want that. Unlikely though.

Could be anything from a 3rd round pick to a 5th round pick. Depends how generous, or desperate, the other teams general manager is. The guy isn't a great QB, but he could be a dependable backup QB, and someone may want that. Unlikely though.

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If he isn't a dependable starter, why would he be a dependable backup? That is the problem with Sanchez. He is too inconsistent. He also doesn't seem to have the mental makeup to be a backup.

I'm pretty sure that, when the time comes, Sanchez will be released, not traded. That would put his trade value at zero. Whether he eventually turns into a capable backup, or even starter, years down the line, who knows.

But seriously, some of the posters saying Sanchez is worth something have me wondering. Would you actually prefer Sanchez starting on the Dolphins over, say, David Garrard? I don't get it. Why on earth would you?

I would give a moldy turkey sandwich and maybe a twix bar, provided I get a 6th back. I believe 4th year in the league and way to inconsistent. Don't think you can fix his acuracy problems if they haven't been fixed by now. Of course Sporano is probably blowing air raid sirens at him now a days so maybe there is hope for him :crazy:

In all honesty this guy really perplexes me..He can go 0-8 and then rip off 4 passes of 20 yards in a row. I think he could have been a good QB, but hes lost all confidence, hes broken. Maybe hell have an Alex Smith path...I dont know. But seriously I would rather have Chad Henne than Sanchez..I thought henne got a bad rep. Hed never be on the same plane as Tannehill, but put some decent weapons around him and give him an O-coord who actually knows what hes doing, he could be a Jim Miller journyman qb. I think the wait for Tannehill will be worth it though..at least we didnt use the 6th overall pick on henne...

]In all honesty this guy really perplexes me..He can go 0-8 and then rip off 4 passes of 20 yards in a row. I think he could have been a good QB, but hes lost all confidence,[/B] hes broken. Maybe hell have an Alex Smith path...I dont know. But seriously I would rather have Chad Henne than Sanchez..I thought henne got a bad rep. Hed never be on the same plane as Tannehill, but put some decent weapons around him and give him an O-coord who actually knows what hes doing, he could be a Jim Miller journyman qb. I think the wait for Tannehill will be worth it though..at least we didnt use the 6th overall pick on henne...

I agree with this. I'm not sure if he'll ever be a "Very good" NFL QB but the Jets haven't really done him any favors. From constantly changing his WR corps to bringing in Tebow, our FO has really messed with his head.