RP: What was the focus of your
interest during your high school years? Were you starting to
gravitate towards a particular area of study or something that you
looked at as a potential career?

CH: Well, I took up business
courses. I had... no, I took shorthand afterwards, typing and
bookkeeping.

RP: How about commercial
illustration?

CH: Oh, yeah. I loved that, because
I can remember that -- [drinks water] -- excuse me. I had this, I
drew this chewing gum, and I put a magnifying glass, and put eyes
on it, put a, sharp on that. That was my presentation of the
commercial art. It was, it was good, I thought. [Laughs] I don't
know where it went. Our teacher's name was Miss McKenzie. She
taught the English class also, and I was in that class. And that's
where Tommy was. Yeah, he was in that -- excuse me for pointing. I
got the habit of doing that. [Laughs] Yeah, I remember the, we had
to study Ivanhoe and Albatross... what is that one
called?

KP: The Rhine of the Ancient
Mariner?

CH: That's right, exactly. I
remember those.

RP: How about popular culture at the
time? Were there certain particular movies or movie stars that you
were kind of...

CH: Oh, Shirley Temple was my, my
idol, you might say, although she was younger. She was only about
five or six, I believe. And I collected all the pictures and
things. But I didn't send for her picture like some people did, to
collect movie stars.

RP: Did you have a role model or
strong influence in your adolescent years? Was it your mom, was it
your grandmother, was it somebody else?

CH: Well, I guess it was my mother, yes. She was so good at
everything that she did. She beat my father and grandfather out in
the field, when picking strawberries. She'd have a crate before
they even got halfway done. Yes, she was very fast.