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I dunno... If they're releasing the power supply specs now, does this mean they have boards hashing? I don't know how it all works or how they would know definitively without having a board in-hand. I could be way off...

Also, the power supplies being less powerful than anticipated -- what does anyone think that means about the chips and their performance, no overclocking really necessary... Will the numbers be that impressive? I'm glad they're moving forward with confidence thusfar...

"There are several factors that influenced this price cut. The network hash rate has continued to increase exponentially as companies bring their ASIC Mining power online. The difficulty has increased from 37 million when these were first announced to over 66 million currently, reducing customer’s return by 78% without even factoring future difficulty increases."

LOL I would not buy a KNC for Oct even if KNC cut their price by 65%.. Not worth it and will not make but $300 to $900 ROI over the next year after the Break Even.. If that much..

You guys have still not figured out that you are mining for the ASIC compines and paying them what you mine for the price of you ASIC..

Mind Blown..

I still haven't figured out what the hell that means...or more importantly why it's here? We don't care that you doubt KnC and you already told us several times that you weren't buying one so what is your point? We should all cancel because you think so? Or perhaps you intended a positive post and forgot to include the details of the company offering rigs that will make us rich for years to come guaranteed?

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Okay, you're probably correct that it's in the wrong thread but when I first encountered the idea a light went on and I agreed. Pre-ordered BFL and calculations of what it could earn, all smiles. Time marches on. Difficulty rises. Many older devices now won't see ROI and some threat that even pre-ordered devices won't see a ROI. Some calculation showing just break even when returns goes to almost zero. That's what working for the manufacturer idea is about. If you mine a year and it just pays itself off then there's only a trickle coming in, that year of work went to the cost of the miner, that year of work went to the manufacturer of the device. It was a bit disheartening. But yes, probably the wrong thread as these devices should see a ROI.

In years to come, when future archeologists dig up the remains of cities wiped out by skynet, it'll confuse the crap out of historians to discover the Romans were hashing virtual coins way before fraction reserve banking existed!

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This applies to EVERYONEYes, the "Paperclip trick" need be employed when not using the MB plug, which sends the on/off signal. Example...On Corsair Power Supplies, you jumper the green pin & any black pin on the 24 pin MB connector. The on/off switch usually only allows the computer to actually send the on/off signal, and this bypasses that, and makes it so the power switch on the back actually turns the power supply on/off. I myself will be snipping the wires a bit from the plug, and wire-nutting them together.I'm sure there will be hundreds of noobs plugging in their machines & flipping the switch, wondering why their machines wont work, crying DOA on the miner, when this is the problem, but not really a problem at all. Hope this helps alleviate some of that. Good luck. More info here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyPWWusHndA

You'd rather hope that KnC would supply at least this info to all buyers as they do say the rigs are plug in and forget them. In fact all info regarding rigs that appears here should at least be emailed to buyers. Not everyone frequents forums after all.

Which brings us back to the Professional vs. Consumer issue, but I agree a bit more info would/should be included when the time comes. Like I said, just trying to alleviate some of that...