, the population could be made up of millions of individuals, or more often, thousands or hundreds of individuals. Individuals reproduce, but populations evolve

you seem to end in paradox at each new attempt to refute dean

so populations are made up of individuals-which reproduceso the populations evolves this means two things

1) we have a population of things evolve into a population of birds, and so do the the individual things evolve into individual birdsie we have a population of birds and individual birds so if individual things evolve into individual birds then we have the dean paradox

or the paradox2) we have a population of things evolve into a population of birds but the individuals are not birds

Thus, there does not need to be multiple mutations all at the same time. One is enough,

so this one muttion produced the first birdso what did this first bird mate withormutiple mutations accoured at the same time so whe have point 2

2)a whole lot of species A gave birth toa whole lot of new individuals of species B at the same time so that these new individual members of species B could mate together

if this 2) was the way it happenedwe have a major problemit would mean something made a whole lot of members of species A give birth to a whole lot new members of species B at the same timewe are told species form due to random mutationssoit is beyound possibility that the same random mutation took place in a whole lot of different members of species A at the same time

Once again, I spoke too soon. You keep playing stupid word games, responding to only parts of my post (not even full sentences), and repeating yourself, Colin. And no, you are not an authority, so stop quoting yourself in the third person. /thread.

I have no love for you. But avoid gamila. This is not a creationist, nor an evolutionist, just a post-modernist of the worst kind for whom reality is just an artifact of our perception. His/her only goal was to promote his/her silly book published by a vanity press in australia. S/he is not interested in listening waht other have to say, and do not care. S/he is of such abysmal selfcenterd and egotistical stupidity that I would rather all of the landoverbaptist forums than one more post of Gamila so I will lock this thread to keep that monster out. Not for you, you are free to spew your ignorance in the rest of the forum, but not here."Here be dragons" and I do not want to wake them up.

Patrick

Science has proof without any certainty. Creationists have certainty without
any proof. (Ashley Montague)