Did you vote NO for this?

David Cameron Prime Minister ‘”You cannot let the people who want to break up our country into the government of our country.”

I have been following some of the hysterics of the last week since the Ashcroft Polls predicted the end of the world, otherwise known as the SNP getting 50 seats and therefor being in a position of influence at Westminster. Now forgive me if I’m wrong, but don’t we live in a democracy! weren’t Westminster desperate for Scotland to stay. Our contribution to British life was too important for it to be lost to the narrow minded nationalism of the wrong kind, England would be diminished without the Scots.

Oh how times change, the world is going to come to an end because Scottish people might just be deciding to use their democratic vote, within the United Kingdom, to send SNP MPs to Westminster to represent their interests. The Conservative / Labour democratic stitch up of the last 100 years or so might just be getting a big wake up call. The people might just vote SNP, Green, UKip, Plaid but not Liberal, Conservative or Labour in sufficient numbers to maintain their absolute power. Oh how my heart bleeds.

No voters must be very proud today knowing that Westminster really only wanted your money and your resources. Your opinion, as has always been the case, does not matter and must in no way influence British politics in any shape or form. How dare you vote in any other way than you have been told. How dare you think that you can influence British and English politics. How dare you have an opinion and reject what you are told is in your best interests from the elite 1% who run this country.

Now I don’t think that the SNP can get anything like 50 seats in May, be wonderful if they did, but first past the post tends to not allow this even with large swings, and I also suspect that the Unionist parties, and in particular the unionist media and BBC, are about to unleash the hounds of hell on Scottish voters, as they did during the referendum. The British Elite State knows no bounds when it comes to defending their own narrow privileged interests.

However, Cameron’s comments, and some of those by Labour, really just annoy the crap out of me because they highlight the total contempt that these people have for Scotland, for Scottish people, and for Democracy in general. Those voters who voted no were well and truly lied to, cheated, conned, deceived etc. There are many words to describe what took place during the referendum and what is about to take place now, some unionists won’t care but I suspect that many of the narrow no voters will, but I have no sympathy for you at all, sorry. You were warned what would happen, even by unionists like Andrew Neil on the BBC, you were warned.

55% of voters made the bed that we all now have to lay on, now do you see what your no vote meant. You were that important to Britain, but only until you gave them your vote, now you mean nothing.

A wee side issue. The SNP need to forget all the talk of a balance of power, and stop listening to the media about a balance of power. I think the SNP need to concentrate all of their efforts on winning as many seats as they can at Westminster and worry about the rest later. The referendum showed the lengths that Unionists will go to to maintain what they believe is theirs, lets not fall into the same trap.

I think that’s a genuine concern, polls are just polls and people on the doorstep will tell you what you want to hear. There is a danger the polls may have the effect of bringing out the die hard labour( because that’s whit ma family aw’s vote for) vote. However I believe the SNP will do well, not the tsunami the polls suggest though. This will be spun as a unionist victory, though what they would have won for Scotland, naught.

I agree that this approach could bring the unionist die hards out when what is required is to quietly campaign and allow the anti Scottish media and unionists MPs hang themselves. Don’t they get that their ramblings are pissing people off, I even heard a labour voter say that’s it after the guardian cartoon today and not a pip from labour. He basically said he would never vote labour again and would be voting SNP in may, he also said f the English media.

I think they do know but are going ahead for loads of different reasons, but mainly they think we are well and truly subjugated. However, I was having a chat with a friend and pointed out that the No side won the referendum pretty much because of the grey vote. Now I have nothing against older people and how they voted, I don’t agree with them, but they were as much entitled to their vote as I was. But if there is another referedum 10 years from now many will have sadly passed away at that point and the majority potentially will be the YES generation. It might just come sooner though if the red and blue Tories, with their media pals, keep stoking up the anti-Scottish feelings down South. That can only backfire in the long run.

Disagree about the grey vote I being one of them. I don’t know your age but on the grey remark consider that you are of the younger generation. I would like to say that I’ve probably voted SNP and for independence for many years longer than you have lived as have many of my friends and family. We have lived through many decades of seeing yet again a Goverment we hadn’t voted in having a say over every political decision made on our behalf. I know some older people voted to maintain the Union but so did some younger and middle agers , that is what democracy is about people vote for the person they think will best represent them. I will be 70 yrs next year and hope to see an INDEPENDENT SCOTLAND before I pop my clogs . Enjoyed reading your blog and having a chance to respond . Keep blogging .

I didn’t mean to imply that all older people voted NO, I know that many voted for YES for a multitude of different reasons and that was a large part of the vote also. I am in my 40s and gave my first ever vote to Neil Kinnock, only to learn as I became more interested and aware that any vote for Labour was a total waste of time, they just did not defend the interests of Scotland and appeared to defend the interests of Westminster and their idea of what this union is. Labour will go down as possibly the biggest disappointment to ordinary working people ever and not just in Scotland. Tony Blair had an opportunity to really change this country and he failed us all for his own and individuals within his parties personal gain. That is unforgivable and I hope finally brings about the death of Labour in Scotland. Maybe a proper socialist movement formed around the SSP will emerge as we do need proper opposition if government is to work.

Thank you for taking the time to read my ramblings and to comment, that is very flattering,

We knew this was coming if the result was a No .Although the degree of vitriol and mass hysteria from the press has been more than I expected it doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. Do agree that the SNP need to ignore all the hype and concentrate on campaigning at the door. Much as I admire AS he needs to keep his mouth shut now – its coming across as arrogant . Its by no means a done deal until the results are out Then and only then is the time to negotiate.

I don’t know if AS or NS etc need to be quiet but they need to reign it in as they falling into the same trap they did during the referendum that was laid out for them by the unionists and the media. Currency was a trap, the Windsors were a trap, they got suckered into being too afraid to be bold and just sung the hymn sheet that the unionists wanted them to sing.

I usually comment at Munguin but I feel compelled to comment here. I have been following Scottish politics since 2003 and this GE I have to say to most interesting one. The hysteria over polls, mere polls. Imagine if Scotland actually sends 50+ SNP MPs (which I hope so). I think we have to start investing in a popcorn factory.

It will certainly be interesting and is certainly one of the most important to us all. I hope the SNP get a ton of seats as the other main parties have no vision other attacking the poor and vulnerable in slightly different ways which is no alternative at all. I have had enough of the unfairness and privileged elite in this country, it is our country not the minorities play thing and it’s time we took it back.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion and that is the whole point of the SNP, an independent Scotland who would be a good friend to other countries not ruled by them because of an obsolete voting system. As far as good governance is concerned I seem to recall that Holyrood, SNP Government, is the only one to balance the books in the last 7 years, I’ll take that every time.

“I voted NO because of the hopeful and somwhat creative sums based mostly on oil! As we saw soon after the referebdyn prices plummeted! That is ongoing so we would have been up the creek without a paddle!

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It’s a cruel irony that after years of claiming that they alone stand up for Scotland, the SNP’s own figures have exposed the fact their plan for full fiscal autonomy would impose austerity-max on our country.”

The IFS said the official forecasts due to be released by the Office for Budget Responsibility alongside next week’s budget were likely to be worse than the current OBR forecasts, which were based on an oil price of $70 (£47) a barrel and a forecast price next year of $83 (£56) a barrel.

“Since then, the oil price has fallen further, and futures markets currently have an average price of around $60 (£40) a barrel for oil to be delivered during 2015–16,” Phillips said. If those figures were used by the OBR next Wednesday, that would cut a further 0.3% off Scotland’s GDP.

Oil prices, as history shows, go up and they go down. The overall figures for Scotland are overall pretty similar to most other countries barring maybe Norway. The IFS figurers are based on UK exspenditure and an independent Scotland would not have say Trident for example so that would be figured out lowering costs etc. So I really don’t see any irony to be honest, only in Scotland would oil be seen as a burden, not to mention that the benefits have been wasted on wars, London infrastructure and unemployment over the years it has been a huge bonus lost.

However, my vote was not based on money. My vote was based on the simple fact that I believe Scotland would be better governed by a Government elected by Scots and not by, wether we like it or not, England. I would much rather have the chance to do things differently as I have more ambition for my country than being governed by an out of touch elite more interested in vested interests and their chums while abondoning the poor. I’m sorry you don’t feel the same way but when the next one comes around please question all that you’ve been told but don’t base a decision on just economics, life has to be more than that.