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Very high marks of 10 for what was a very dismal game really. The weather played a massive part in that but a 9 for Lowe would suggest he had a really good game. I don't think anyone played very well. Everyone did ok and Blackpool were one of the worst teams I have seen this season. I must have watched a different game again.

Very high marks of 10 for what was a very dismal game really. The weather played a massive part in that but a 9 for Lowe would suggest he had a really good game. I don't think anyone played very well. Everyone did ok and Blackpool were one of the worst teams I have seen this season. I must have watched a different game again.forever blue and white

forever blue and white wrote:
Very high marks of 10 for what was a very dismal game really. The weather played a massive part in that but a 9 for Lowe would suggest he had a really good game. I don't think anyone played very well. Everyone did ok and Blackpool were one of the worst teams I have seen this season. I must have watched a different game again.

Yes, they are high marks. If you subtract one off each of them then that's probably about right.

It's one thing beating a poor Blackpool side at home but I can't see us picking many points from Boro away or Reading away.

Hope they prove me wrong!

[quote][p][bold]forever blue and white[/bold] wrote:
Very high marks of 10 for what was a very dismal game really. The weather played a massive part in that but a 9 for Lowe would suggest he had a really good game. I don't think anyone played very well. Everyone did ok and Blackpool were one of the worst teams I have seen this season. I must have watched a different game again.[/p][/quote]Yes, they are high marks. If you subtract one off each of them then that's probably about right.
It's one thing beating a poor Blackpool side at home but I can't see us picking many points from Boro away or Reading away.
Hope they prove me wrong!Tatts

The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts.

With your poor away record, trips to Middlesbrough, Reading and Bolton within the space of 3 weeks will be a true barometer of your "progress" after losing 16 players.

In all honestly I think the play-off's are now beyond Blackburn Rovers given the 5 point gap, effectively 6 points due to having the worst goal difference in the top half.

The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts.
With your poor away record, trips to Middlesbrough, Reading and Bolton within the space of 3 weeks will be a true barometer of your "progress" after losing 16 players.
In all honestly I think the play-off's are now beyond Blackburn Rovers given the 5 point gap, effectively 6 points due to having the worst goal difference in the top half.chicken.pluckers

Agree with Tatts, knock a point off each and it will be just about right.

I don't have a problem with Lowe getting top marks because once again he proved that he doesn't need Williamson cluttering up the middle of the park, the Kilgallon, Lowe and Hanley triangle worked pretty well albeit against a poor side, and lets not forget Lowe can play full back and centre half if need be.

I have a feeling that we might surprise Boro and - or Reading, two points will be ok from those games, four would be an excellent return.

Agree with Tatts, knock a point off each and it will be just about right.
I don't have a problem with Lowe getting top marks because once again he proved that he doesn't need Williamson cluttering up the middle of the park, the Kilgallon, Lowe and Hanley triangle worked pretty well albeit against a poor side, and lets not forget Lowe can play full back and centre half if need be.
I have a feeling that we might surprise Boro and - or Reading, two points will be ok from those games, four would be an excellent return.owd nick

chicken.pluckers wrote:
The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts.

With your poor away record, trips to Middlesbrough, Reading and Bolton within the space of 3 weeks will be a true barometer of your &quot;progress" after losing 16 players.

In all honestly I think the play-off's are now beyond Blackburn Rovers given the 5 point gap, effectively 6 points due to having the worst goal difference in the top half.

"The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts."

Ha, hypocrisy of the highest degree.

Who was it who only six weeks ago could only scrape a win at home against the team on it's knees.

[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote:
The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts.
With your poor away record, trips to Middlesbrough, Reading and Bolton within the space of 3 weeks will be a true barometer of your "progress" after losing 16 players.
In all honestly I think the play-off's are now beyond Blackburn Rovers given the 5 point gap, effectively 6 points due to having the worst goal difference in the top half.[/p][/quote]"The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts."
Ha, hypocrisy of the highest degree.
Who was it who only six weeks ago could only scrape a win at home against the team on it's knees.Harwoodstblue

chicken.pluckers wrote:
The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts.

With your poor away record, trips to Middlesbrough, Reading and Bolton within the space of 3 weeks will be a true barometer of your &quot;progress" after losing 16 players.

In all honestly I think the play-off's are now beyond Blackburn Rovers given the 5 point gap, effectively 6 points due to having the worst goal difference in the top half.

"The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts."

Ha, hypocrisy of the highest degree.

Who was it who only six weeks ago could only scrape a win at home against the team on it's knees.

Why reply ??????????

No point whatsoever.

[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote:
The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts.
With your poor away record, trips to Middlesbrough, Reading and Bolton within the space of 3 weeks will be a true barometer of your "progress" after losing 16 players.
In all honestly I think the play-off's are now beyond Blackburn Rovers given the 5 point gap, effectively 6 points due to having the worst goal difference in the top half.[/p][/quote]"The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts."
Ha, hypocrisy of the highest degree.
Who was it who only six weeks ago could only scrape a win at home against the team on it's knees.[/p][/quote]Why reply ??????????
No point whatsoever.owd nick

chicken.pluckers wrote:
The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts.

With your poor away record, trips to Middlesbrough, Reading and Bolton within the space of 3 weeks will be a true barometer of your &quot;progress" after losing 16 players.

In all honestly I think the play-off's are now beyond Blackburn Rovers given the 5 point gap, effectively 6 points due to having the worst goal difference in the top half.

"The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts."

Ha, hypocrisy of the highest degree.

Who was it who only six weeks ago could only scrape a win at home against the team on it's knees.

Why reply ??????????

No point whatsoever.

I know but he talks so much **** it's annoying. I agree, more you reply worse he gets.....To be ignored in future.

[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote:
The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts.
With your poor away record, trips to Middlesbrough, Reading and Bolton within the space of 3 weeks will be a true barometer of your "progress" after losing 16 players.
In all honestly I think the play-off's are now beyond Blackburn Rovers given the 5 point gap, effectively 6 points due to having the worst goal difference in the top half.[/p][/quote]"The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts."
Ha, hypocrisy of the highest degree.
Who was it who only six weeks ago could only scrape a win at home against the team on it's knees.[/p][/quote]Why reply ??????????
No point whatsoever.[/p][/quote]I know but he talks so much **** it's annoying. I agree, more you reply worse he gets.....To be ignored in future.Harwoodstblue

I would like us to bring in a forward (not varney) and a centre half on loan, and if we can get these we may have a shout at the last playoff place.

Recent performances say we won't make the playoffs, but with the likes of Rhodes, Gestede, Cairney, Conway, Dunn, I think we have the potential to be the best attacking team in this division. If Gestede can keep up his good goalscoring form and if we can get Rhodes firing again, for **** sure we will be in the mix come the end of the season.

I would like us to bring in a forward (not varney) and a centre half on loan, and if we can get these we may have a shout at the last playoff place.
Recent performances say we won't make the playoffs, but with the likes of Rhodes, Gestede, Cairney, Conway, Dunn, I think we have the potential to be the best attacking team in this division. If Gestede can keep up his good goalscoring form and if we can get Rhodes firing again, for **** sure we will be in the mix come the end of the season.adcr

Interesting point about Gestede. He does seem to win virtually every header he goes for and Robinsons kicks are made for him. It is the case that we dont seem to profit from this though...maybe that will come? Rhodes doesnt seem to be benefiting at the moment, presumably that will come...

Interesting point about Gestede. He does seem to win virtually every header he goes for and Robinsons kicks are made for him. It is the case that we dont seem to profit from this though...maybe that will come? Rhodes doesnt seem to be benefiting at the moment, presumably that will come...realisticrover

realisticrover wrote:
Interesting point about Gestede. He does seem to win virtually every header he goes for and Robinsons kicks are made for him. It is the case that we dont seem to profit from this though...maybe that will come? Rhodes doesnt seem to be benefiting at the moment, presumably that will come...

It will come. It's a relatively new partnership and they're still learning each others game. I think Rhodes might still be suffering from the shock of not having to play on his own lol.
It's amazing that we're still in touching distance of the play off places after all the changes that GB has had top make. I think we'll see the best of this team next season when all has settled down. He's making a lot of progress which can only benefit us for the future but it's still a rebuilding job after all the demolition.

[quote][p][bold]realisticrover[/bold] wrote:
Interesting point about Gestede. He does seem to win virtually every header he goes for and Robinsons kicks are made for him. It is the case that we dont seem to profit from this though...maybe that will come? Rhodes doesnt seem to be benefiting at the moment, presumably that will come...[/p][/quote]It will come. It's a relatively new partnership and they're still learning each others game. I think Rhodes might still be suffering from the shock of not having to play on his own lol.
It's amazing that we're still in touching distance of the play off places after all the changes that GB has had top make. I think we'll see the best of this team next season when all has settled down. He's making a lot of progress which can only benefit us for the future but it's still a rebuilding job after all the demolition.Harwoodstblue

chicken.pluckers wrote:
The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts.

With your poor away record, trips to Middlesbrough, Reading and Bolton within the space of 3 weeks will be a true barometer of your &quot;progress" after losing 16 players.

In all honestly I think the play-off's are now beyond Blackburn Rovers given the 5 point gap, effectively 6 points due to having the worst goal difference in the top half.

"The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts."

Ha, hypocrisy of the highest degree.

Who was it who only six weeks ago could only scrape a win at home against the team on it's knees.

Scrape a win? I've heard the term to scrape a draw before. Your comment might have a point if we had lost or drawn, but we won. Six weeks ago we beat Blackpool when they were 2 points off the play-off's. They're now 14 points off the play-off's. Therefore I would say you played them at a good time.

The overconfidence I refer to is based around your tendency to fall to pieces against the weaker teams in the division such as Charlton (who we beat 3-0), Birmingham (who we beat 3-0), and Doncaster (who we beat 2-0 away).

Its your inconsistency that has cost you a chance of reaching the play-off's. And now that your squad has been decimated with the loss of 16 players including your captain and your most creative player, I think you will struggle to keep yourselves above mid-table.

[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote:
The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts.
With your poor away record, trips to Middlesbrough, Reading and Bolton within the space of 3 weeks will be a true barometer of your "progress" after losing 16 players.
In all honestly I think the play-off's are now beyond Blackburn Rovers given the 5 point gap, effectively 6 points due to having the worst goal difference in the top half.[/p][/quote]"The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts."
Ha, hypocrisy of the highest degree.
Who was it who only six weeks ago could only scrape a win at home against the team on it's knees.[/p][/quote]Scrape a win? I've heard the term to scrape a draw before. Your comment might have a point if we had lost or drawn, but we won. Six weeks ago we beat Blackpool when they were 2 points off the play-off's. They're now 14 points off the play-off's. Therefore I would say you played them at a good time.
The overconfidence I refer to is based around your tendency to fall to pieces against the weaker teams in the division such as Charlton (who we beat 3-0), Birmingham (who we beat 3-0), and Doncaster (who we beat 2-0 away).
Its your inconsistency that has cost you a chance of reaching the play-off's. And now that your squad has been decimated with the loss of 16 players including your captain and your most creative player, I think you will struggle to keep yourselves above mid-table.chicken.pluckers

realisticrover wrote:
Interesting point about Gestede. He does seem to win virtually every header he goes for and Robinsons kicks are made for him. It is the case that we dont seem to profit from this though...maybe that will come? Rhodes doesnt seem to be benefiting at the moment, presumably that will come...

He wins nearly every header but he and Rhodes aren't "reading" each other yet.

Also we shouldn't need to rely on Robinson's kicks, Gawd forbid we go back to the hoof and hope days of Lardarse, we need to mix it up more, get people forward and get the ball in from all angles, barring injuries we are getting the types of player now that can do this.

[quote][p][bold]realisticrover[/bold] wrote:
Interesting point about Gestede. He does seem to win virtually every header he goes for and Robinsons kicks are made for him. It is the case that we dont seem to profit from this though...maybe that will come? Rhodes doesnt seem to be benefiting at the moment, presumably that will come...[/p][/quote]He wins nearly every header but he and Rhodes aren't "reading" each other yet.
Also we shouldn't need to rely on Robinson's kicks, Gawd forbid we go back to the hoof and hope days of Lardarse, we need to mix it up more, get people forward and get the ball in from all angles, barring injuries we are getting the types of player now that can do this.owd nick

Does Robinson ever give the ball to one of his own players ? Other goalies regularly throw the ball to a midfielder to get the team moving forward. Robinson invariably kicks it as far as he can, usually guaranteeing that the opposing defence get it and their team are moving forward.
Gestede's heading prowess should be used for crosses not for his goalkeepers hoofs. They are very low percentage.
What was Conways rating as a sub ?

Does Robinson ever give the ball to one of his own players ? Other goalies regularly throw the ball to a midfielder to get the team moving forward. Robinson invariably kicks it as far as he can, usually guaranteeing that the opposing defence get it and their team are moving forward.
Gestede's heading prowess should be used for crosses not for his goalkeepers hoofs. They are very low percentage.
What was Conways rating as a sub ?kenbro

realisticrover wrote:
Interesting point about Gestede. He does seem to win virtually every header he goes for and Robinsons kicks are made for him. It is the case that we dont seem to profit from this though...maybe that will come? Rhodes doesnt seem to be benefiting at the moment, presumably that will come...

He wins nearly every header but he and Rhodes aren't &quot;reading" each other yet.

Also we shouldn't need to rely on Robinson's kicks, Gawd forbid we go back to the hoof and hope days of Lardarse, we need to mix it up more, get people forward and get the ball in from all angles, barring injuries we are getting the types of player now that can do this.

What you clowns would give for the hoof and hope days of Big Sam, when you were a well-respected, well-run, mid-table Premier League club.

What happened?

[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]realisticrover[/bold] wrote:
Interesting point about Gestede. He does seem to win virtually every header he goes for and Robinsons kicks are made for him. It is the case that we dont seem to profit from this though...maybe that will come? Rhodes doesnt seem to be benefiting at the moment, presumably that will come...[/p][/quote]He wins nearly every header but he and Rhodes aren't "reading" each other yet.
Also we shouldn't need to rely on Robinson's kicks, Gawd forbid we go back to the hoof and hope days of Lardarse, we need to mix it up more, get people forward and get the ball in from all angles, barring injuries we are getting the types of player now that can do this.[/p][/quote]What you clowns would give for the hoof and hope days of Big Sam, when you were a well-respected, well-run, mid-table Premier League club.
What happened?chicken.pluckers

realisticrover wrote: Interesting point about Gestede. He does seem to win virtually every header he goes for and Robinsons kicks are made for him. It is the case that we dont seem to profit from this though...maybe that will come? Rhodes doesnt seem to be benefiting at the moment, presumably that will come...

He wins nearly every header but he and Rhodes aren't &quot;reading" each other yet. Also we shouldn't need to rely on Robinson's kicks, Gawd forbid we go back to the hoof and hope days of Lardarse, we need to mix it up more, get people forward and get the ball in from all angles, barring injuries we are getting the types of player now that can do this.

What you clowns would give for the hoof and hope days of Big Sam, when you were a well-respected, well-run, mid-table Premier League club. What happened?

YAWN!!!!

[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realisticrover[/bold] wrote: Interesting point about Gestede. He does seem to win virtually every header he goes for and Robinsons kicks are made for him. It is the case that we dont seem to profit from this though...maybe that will come? Rhodes doesnt seem to be benefiting at the moment, presumably that will come...[/p][/quote]He wins nearly every header but he and Rhodes aren't "reading" each other yet. Also we shouldn't need to rely on Robinson's kicks, Gawd forbid we go back to the hoof and hope days of Lardarse, we need to mix it up more, get people forward and get the ball in from all angles, barring injuries we are getting the types of player now that can do this.[/p][/quote]What you clowns would give for the hoof and hope days of Big Sam, when you were a well-respected, well-run, mid-table Premier League club. What happened?[/p][/quote]YAWN!!!!GAZHAY

We really need to win at Boro on Saturday, as we don't play again for
2 weeks because of the FA cup, some teams will have played 2 games
before we play again and we could end up in the bottom half of the table
with far too much to do.

We really need to win at Boro on Saturday, as we don't play again for
2 weeks because of the FA cup, some teams will have played 2 games
before we play again and we could end up in the bottom half of the table
with far too much to do.HDRover

realisticrover wrote:
Interesting point about Gestede. He does seem to win virtually every header he goes for and Robinsons kicks are made for him. It is the case that we dont seem to profit from this though...maybe that will come? Rhodes doesnt seem to be benefiting at the moment, presumably that will come...

He wins nearly every header but he and Rhodes aren't &quot;reading" each other yet.

Also we shouldn't need to rely on Robinson's kicks, Gawd forbid we go back to the hoof and hope days of Lardarse, we need to mix it up more, get people forward and get the ball in from all angles, barring injuries we are getting the types of player now that can do this.

What you clowns would give for the hoof and hope days of Big Sam, when you were a well-respected, well-run, mid-table Premier League club.

What happened?

Welcome back,how's the jet lag?

[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]realisticrover[/bold] wrote:
Interesting point about Gestede. He does seem to win virtually every header he goes for and Robinsons kicks are made for him. It is the case that we dont seem to profit from this though...maybe that will come? Rhodes doesnt seem to be benefiting at the moment, presumably that will come...[/p][/quote]He wins nearly every header but he and Rhodes aren't "reading" each other yet.
Also we shouldn't need to rely on Robinson's kicks, Gawd forbid we go back to the hoof and hope days of Lardarse, we need to mix it up more, get people forward and get the ball in from all angles, barring injuries we are getting the types of player now that can do this.[/p][/quote]What you clowns would give for the hoof and hope days of Big Sam, when you were a well-respected, well-run, mid-table Premier League club.
What happened?[/p][/quote]Welcome back,how's the jet lag?baldie

Yes OR must have been at diff. game. If you think Lowe had good game as cover mid field then wasn't such a good performance. Funny was by far the only one to make things happen. Taylor was lost and Chairney was not as effective with dunny playing. On the positive side Conway looked promising and Gestede worked hard. Again some looked short of fitness. Blackpool were poor.

Yes OR must have been at diff. game. If you think Lowe had good game as cover mid field then wasn't such a good performance. Funny was by far the only one to make things happen. Taylor was lost and Chairney was not as effective with dunny playing. On the positive side Conway looked promising and Gestede worked hard. Again some looked short of fitness. Blackpool were poor.eros2010

chicken.pluckers wrote:
The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts.

With your poor away record, trips to Middlesbrough, Reading and Bolton within the space of 3 weeks will be a true barometer of your &quot;progress" after losing 16 players.

In all honestly I think the play-off's are now beyond Blackburn Rovers given the 5 point gap, effectively 6 points due to having the worst goal difference in the top half.

"The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts."

Ha, hypocrisy of the highest degree.

Who was it who only six weeks ago could only scrape a win at home against the team on it's knees.

Why reply ??????????

No point whatsoever.

well said

[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote:
The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts.
With your poor away record, trips to Middlesbrough, Reading and Bolton within the space of 3 weeks will be a true barometer of your "progress" after losing 16 players.
In all honestly I think the play-off's are now beyond Blackburn Rovers given the 5 point gap, effectively 6 points due to having the worst goal difference in the top half.[/p][/quote]"The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts."
Ha, hypocrisy of the highest degree.
Who was it who only six weeks ago could only scrape a win at home against the team on it's knees.[/p][/quote]Why reply ??????????
No point whatsoever.[/p][/quote]well saidxsblue

realisticrover wrote:
Interesting point about Gestede. He does seem to win virtually every header he goes for and Robinsons kicks are made for him. It is the case that we dont seem to profit from this though...maybe that will come? Rhodes doesnt seem to be benefiting at the moment, presumably that will come...

He wins nearly every header but he and Rhodes aren't &quot;reading" each other yet.

Also we shouldn't need to rely on Robinson's kicks, Gawd forbid we go back to the hoof and hope days of Lardarse, we need to mix it up more, get people forward and get the ball in from all angles, barring injuries we are getting the types of player now that can do this.

come on Owd Nick...if youve got a keeper with excellent distribution and a striker that wins every header, do you honestly want us to avoid using their attributes?? It doesnt mean that we cant still pass it around, but it does mean that we have different strings to our bow!
Probably our most impactful feature is how Spurr can throw the ball with pace from near the halfwayline onto Gestedes napper...should we stop using that as well, so that you get to watch us pass around the midfield for a bit longer??
As at Barnsley, teams can soon work out how to stop us passing...but they cant do much to defend against Gestede in the air, so lets utilise all the options!!

[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]realisticrover[/bold] wrote:
Interesting point about Gestede. He does seem to win virtually every header he goes for and Robinsons kicks are made for him. It is the case that we dont seem to profit from this though...maybe that will come? Rhodes doesnt seem to be benefiting at the moment, presumably that will come...[/p][/quote]He wins nearly every header but he and Rhodes aren't "reading" each other yet.
Also we shouldn't need to rely on Robinson's kicks, Gawd forbid we go back to the hoof and hope days of Lardarse, we need to mix it up more, get people forward and get the ball in from all angles, barring injuries we are getting the types of player now that can do this.[/p][/quote]come on Owd Nick...if youve got a keeper with excellent distribution and a striker that wins every header, do you honestly want us to avoid using their attributes?? It doesnt mean that we cant still pass it around, but it does mean that we have different strings to our bow!
Probably our most impactful feature is how Spurr can throw the ball with pace from near the halfwayline onto Gestedes napper...should we stop using that as well, so that you get to watch us pass around the midfield for a bit longer??
As at Barnsley, teams can soon work out how to stop us passing...but they cant do much to defend against Gestede in the air, so lets utilise all the options!!realisticrover

(incidentally, not taking anything away from the midfield and our ability to pass through teams...Cairney, Dunn, Lowe in particular are superb to watch at the moment, teams cant live with them!!)

(incidentally, not taking anything away from the midfield and our ability to pass through teams...Cairney, Dunn, Lowe in particular are superb to watch at the moment, teams cant live with them!!)realisticrover

HDRover wrote:
We really need to win at Boro on Saturday, as we don't play again for
2 weeks because of the FA cup, some teams will have played 2 games
before we play again and we could end up in the bottom half of the table
with far too much to do.

Don't panic HDRover... If we finish in the top half, and I think we will, it will have been a good season after all the upheaval. Bowyer has already done more than we could have expected from him turning the shipwreck round.
Next season when the team gels (the rebuilding is not complete yet) will be our season to push on and see what we can do.
If we don't quite reach the playoffs it will be disappointing after coming so close but who would have expected that at the beginning of the season.

[quote][p][bold]HDRover[/bold] wrote:
We really need to win at Boro on Saturday, as we don't play again for
2 weeks because of the FA cup, some teams will have played 2 games
before we play again and we could end up in the bottom half of the table
with far too much to do.[/p][/quote]Don't panic HDRover... If we finish in the top half, and I think we will, it will have been a good season after all the upheaval. Bowyer has already done more than we could have expected from him turning the shipwreck round.
Next season when the team gels (the rebuilding is not complete yet) will be our season to push on and see what we can do.
If we don't quite reach the playoffs it will be disappointing after coming so close but who would have expected that at the beginning of the season.Harwoodstblue

realisticrover wrote:
Interesting point about Gestede. He does seem to win virtually every header he goes for and Robinsons kicks are made for him. It is the case that we dont seem to profit from this though...maybe that will come? Rhodes doesnt seem to be benefiting at the moment, presumably that will come...

He wins nearly every header but he and Rhodes aren't &quot;reading" each other yet.

Also we shouldn't need to rely on Robinson's kicks, Gawd forbid we go back to the hoof and hope days of Lardarse, we need to mix it up more, get people forward and get the ball in from all angles, barring injuries we are getting the types of player now that can do this.

come on Owd Nick...if youve got a keeper with excellent distribution and a striker that wins every header, do you honestly want us to avoid using their attributes?? It doesnt mean that we cant still pass it around, but it does mean that we have different strings to our bow!
Probably our most impactful feature is how Spurr can throw the ball with pace from near the halfwayline onto Gestedes napper...should we stop using that as well, so that you get to watch us pass around the midfield for a bit longer??
As at Barnsley, teams can soon work out how to stop us passing...but they cant do much to defend against Gestede in the air, so lets utilise all the options!!

Simple answer, no I don't, but once that's your only option, which was basically the case under Lardarse it becomes boring and predictable.

Don't forget that under the hoof and hope "knock it down and win the second ball" option that he dished up ad nauseum Robinson was the top "assist" for at least two seasons (OPTA).

That can't be right in anyone's book.

No problem whatsoever with Spurr's long throw, but again if we overuse it, or become reliant on it other teams will be waiting for it, plan against it, stop it.

Just like Derby did.

We have some good players who can play football, two good wingers (at least) , two good strikers, a decent midfield and full backs who can overlap.

We don't need to rely on hoof and hope anymore, there is far more to us now, all we need is time to develop.

[quote][p][bold]realisticrover[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]realisticrover[/bold] wrote:
Interesting point about Gestede. He does seem to win virtually every header he goes for and Robinsons kicks are made for him. It is the case that we dont seem to profit from this though...maybe that will come? Rhodes doesnt seem to be benefiting at the moment, presumably that will come...[/p][/quote]He wins nearly every header but he and Rhodes aren't "reading" each other yet.
Also we shouldn't need to rely on Robinson's kicks, Gawd forbid we go back to the hoof and hope days of Lardarse, we need to mix it up more, get people forward and get the ball in from all angles, barring injuries we are getting the types of player now that can do this.[/p][/quote]come on Owd Nick...if youve got a keeper with excellent distribution and a striker that wins every header, do you honestly want us to avoid using their attributes?? It doesnt mean that we cant still pass it around, but it does mean that we have different strings to our bow!
Probably our most impactful feature is how Spurr can throw the ball with pace from near the halfwayline onto Gestedes napper...should we stop using that as well, so that you get to watch us pass around the midfield for a bit longer??
As at Barnsley, teams can soon work out how to stop us passing...but they cant do much to defend against Gestede in the air, so lets utilise all the options!![/p][/quote]Simple answer, no I don't, but once that's your only option, which was basically the case under Lardarse it becomes boring and predictable.
Don't forget that under the hoof and hope "knock it down and win the second ball" option that he dished up ad nauseum Robinson was the top "assist" for at least two seasons (OPTA).
That can't be right in anyone's book.
No problem whatsoever with Spurr's long throw, but again if we overuse it, or become reliant on it other teams will be waiting for it, plan against it, stop it.
Just like Derby did.
We have some good players who can play football, two good wingers (at least) , two good strikers, a decent midfield and full backs who can overlap.
We don't need to rely on hoof and hope anymore, there is far more to us now, all we need is time to develop.owd nick

HDRover wrote:
We really need to win at Boro on Saturday, as we don't play again for
2 weeks because of the FA cup, some teams will have played 2 games
before we play again and we could end up in the bottom half of the table
with far too much to do.

Don't panic HDRover... If we finish in the top half, and I think we will, it will have been a good season after all the upheaval. Bowyer has already done more than we could have expected from him turning the shipwreck round.
Next season when the team gels (the rebuilding is not complete yet) will be our season to push on and see what we can do.
If we don't quite reach the playoffs it will be disappointing after coming so close but who would have expected that at the beginning of the season.

You have just about summed up our season, I would love for us to make it to the play offs but if we don't I still think we have greatly improved under Gary Bowyer, we need to look ahead now as our young squad are starting to understand each other and grow in confidence.
Just need to get rid of Best and Etuhu which I'm sure will be on GBs list of things to do.
I would rather be in the championship with Bowyer than in the premiership with lying, stab you in the back, lets take all the positives.....Kean,
now that was a nightmare!!!!

[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]HDRover[/bold] wrote:
We really need to win at Boro on Saturday, as we don't play again for
2 weeks because of the FA cup, some teams will have played 2 games
before we play again and we could end up in the bottom half of the table
with far too much to do.[/p][/quote]Don't panic HDRover... If we finish in the top half, and I think we will, it will have been a good season after all the upheaval. Bowyer has already done more than we could have expected from him turning the shipwreck round.
Next season when the team gels (the rebuilding is not complete yet) will be our season to push on and see what we can do.
If we don't quite reach the playoffs it will be disappointing after coming so close but who would have expected that at the beginning of the season.[/p][/quote]You have just about summed up our season, I would love for us to make it to the play offs but if we don't I still think we have greatly improved under Gary Bowyer, we need to look ahead now as our young squad are starting to understand each other and grow in confidence.
Just need to get rid of Best and Etuhu which I'm sure will be on GBs list of things to do.
I would rather be in the championship with Bowyer than in the premiership with lying, stab you in the back, lets take all the positives.....Kean,
now that was a nightmare!!!!kazluvsrovers

realisticrover wrote:
Interesting point about Gestede. He does seem to win virtually every header he goes for and Robinsons kicks are made for him. It is the case that we dont seem to profit from this though...maybe that will come? Rhodes doesnt seem to be benefiting at the moment, presumably that will come...

He wins nearly every header but he and Rhodes aren't &quot;reading" each other yet.

Also we shouldn't need to rely on Robinson's kicks, Gawd forbid we go back to the hoof and hope days of Lardarse, we need to mix it up more, get people forward and get the ball in from all angles, barring injuries we are getting the types of player now that can do this.

come on Owd Nick...if youve got a keeper with excellent distribution and a striker that wins every header, do you honestly want us to avoid using their attributes?? It doesnt mean that we cant still pass it around, but it does mean that we have different strings to our bow!
Probably our most impactful feature is how Spurr can throw the ball with pace from near the halfwayline onto Gestedes napper...should we stop using that as well, so that you get to watch us pass around the midfield for a bit longer??
As at Barnsley, teams can soon work out how to stop us passing...but they cant do much to defend against Gestede in the air, so lets utilise all the options!!

Simple answer, no I don't, but once that's your only option, which was basically the case under Lardarse it becomes boring and predictable.

Don't forget that under the hoof and hope "knock it down and win the second ball" option that he dished up ad nauseum Robinson was the top "assist" for at least two seasons (OPTA).

That can't be right in anyone's book.

No problem whatsoever with Spurr's long throw, but again if we overuse it, or become reliant on it other teams will be waiting for it, plan against it, stop it.

Just like Derby did.

We have some good players who can play football, two good wingers (at least) , two good strikers, a decent midfield and full backs who can overlap.

We don't need to rely on hoof and hope anymore, there is far more to us now, all we need is time to develop.

Might be wrong,but I can't actually remember a Spurr long throw on Saturday.
He definitely didn't go across to take one from the right.

[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]realisticrover[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]realisticrover[/bold] wrote:
Interesting point about Gestede. He does seem to win virtually every header he goes for and Robinsons kicks are made for him. It is the case that we dont seem to profit from this though...maybe that will come? Rhodes doesnt seem to be benefiting at the moment, presumably that will come...[/p][/quote]He wins nearly every header but he and Rhodes aren't "reading" each other yet.
Also we shouldn't need to rely on Robinson's kicks, Gawd forbid we go back to the hoof and hope days of Lardarse, we need to mix it up more, get people forward and get the ball in from all angles, barring injuries we are getting the types of player now that can do this.[/p][/quote]come on Owd Nick...if youve got a keeper with excellent distribution and a striker that wins every header, do you honestly want us to avoid using their attributes?? It doesnt mean that we cant still pass it around, but it does mean that we have different strings to our bow!
Probably our most impactful feature is how Spurr can throw the ball with pace from near the halfwayline onto Gestedes napper...should we stop using that as well, so that you get to watch us pass around the midfield for a bit longer??
As at Barnsley, teams can soon work out how to stop us passing...but they cant do much to defend against Gestede in the air, so lets utilise all the options!![/p][/quote]Simple answer, no I don't, but once that's your only option, which was basically the case under Lardarse it becomes boring and predictable.
Don't forget that under the hoof and hope "knock it down and win the second ball" option that he dished up ad nauseum Robinson was the top "assist" for at least two seasons (OPTA).
That can't be right in anyone's book.
No problem whatsoever with Spurr's long throw, but again if we overuse it, or become reliant on it other teams will be waiting for it, plan against it, stop it.
Just like Derby did.
We have some good players who can play football, two good wingers (at least) , two good strikers, a decent midfield and full backs who can overlap.
We don't need to rely on hoof and hope anymore, there is far more to us now, all we need is time to develop.[/p][/quote]Might be wrong,but I can't actually remember a Spurr long throw on Saturday.
He definitely didn't go across to take one from the right.baldie

chicken.pluckers wrote:
The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts.

With your poor away record, trips to Middlesbrough, Reading and Bolton within the space of 3 weeks will be a true barometer of your &quot;progress" after losing 16 players.

In all honestly I think the play-off's are now beyond Blackburn Rovers given the 5 point gap, effectively 6 points due to having the worst goal difference in the top half.

"The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts."

Ha, hypocrisy of the highest degree.

Who was it who only six weeks ago could only scrape a win at home against the team on it's knees.

Scrape a win? I've heard the term to scrape a draw before. Your comment might have a point if we had lost or drawn, but we won. Six weeks ago we beat Blackpool when they were 2 points off the play-off's. They're now 14 points off the play-off's. Therefore I would say you played them at a good time.

The overconfidence I refer to is based around your tendency to fall to pieces against the weaker teams in the division such as Charlton (who we beat 3-0), Birmingham (who we beat 3-0), and Doncaster (who we beat 2-0 away).

Its your inconsistency that has cost you a chance of reaching the play-off's. And now that your squad has been decimated with the loss of 16 players including your captain and your most creative player, I think you will struggle to keep yourselves above mid-table.

Mark you are a prize c@ck and are making yourself look very foolish. Your arguments just don't stack up and reek of bitterness. You are a sad little man

[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote:
The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts.
With your poor away record, trips to Middlesbrough, Reading and Bolton within the space of 3 weeks will be a true barometer of your "progress" after losing 16 players.
In all honestly I think the play-off's are now beyond Blackburn Rovers given the 5 point gap, effectively 6 points due to having the worst goal difference in the top half.[/p][/quote]"The trouble here could be overconfidence after beating a team on its knees in Blackpool who haven't won a game in 13 attempts."
Ha, hypocrisy of the highest degree.
Who was it who only six weeks ago could only scrape a win at home against the team on it's knees.[/p][/quote]Scrape a win? I've heard the term to scrape a draw before. Your comment might have a point if we had lost or drawn, but we won. Six weeks ago we beat Blackpool when they were 2 points off the play-off's. They're now 14 points off the play-off's. Therefore I would say you played them at a good time.
The overconfidence I refer to is based around your tendency to fall to pieces against the weaker teams in the division such as Charlton (who we beat 3-0), Birmingham (who we beat 3-0), and Doncaster (who we beat 2-0 away).
Its your inconsistency that has cost you a chance of reaching the play-off's. And now that your squad has been decimated with the loss of 16 players including your captain and your most creative player, I think you will struggle to keep yourselves above mid-table.[/p][/quote]Mark you are a prize c@ck and are making yourself look very foolish. Your arguments just don't stack up and reek of bitterness. You are a sad little manWhydidtheybanme?

realisticrover wrote:
Interesting point about Gestede. He does seem to win virtually every header he goes for and Robinsons kicks are made for him. It is the case that we dont seem to profit from this though...maybe that will come? Rhodes doesnt seem to be benefiting at the moment, presumably that will come...

He wins nearly every header but he and Rhodes aren't &quot;reading" each other yet.

Also we shouldn't need to rely on Robinson's kicks, Gawd forbid we go back to the hoof and hope days of Lardarse, we need to mix it up more, get people forward and get the ball in from all angles, barring injuries we are getting the types of player now that can do this.

come on Owd Nick...if youve got a keeper with excellent distribution and a striker that wins every header, do you honestly want us to avoid using their attributes?? It doesnt mean that we cant still pass it around, but it does mean that we have different strings to our bow!
Probably our most impactful feature is how Spurr can throw the ball with pace from near the halfwayline onto Gestedes napper...should we stop using that as well, so that you get to watch us pass around the midfield for a bit longer??
As at Barnsley, teams can soon work out how to stop us passing...but they cant do much to defend against Gestede in the air, so lets utilise all the options!!

Simple answer, no I don't, but once that's your only option, which was basically the case under Lardarse it becomes boring and predictable.

Don't forget that under the hoof and hope "knock it down and win the second ball" option that he dished up ad nauseum Robinson was the top "assist" for at least two seasons (OPTA).

That can't be right in anyone's book.

No problem whatsoever with Spurr's long throw, but again if we overuse it, or become reliant on it other teams will be waiting for it, plan against it, stop it.

Just like Derby did.

We have some good players who can play football, two good wingers (at least) , two good strikers, a decent midfield and full backs who can overlap.

We don't need to rely on hoof and hope anymore, there is far more to us now, all we need is time to develop.

Might be wrong,but I can't actually remember a Spurr long throw on Saturday.
He definitely didn't go across to take one from the right.

To be honest I don't remember one either; perhaps it was the conditions or that GB is trying to mix things up a bit.

[quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]realisticrover[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]realisticrover[/bold] wrote:
Interesting point about Gestede. He does seem to win virtually every header he goes for and Robinsons kicks are made for him. It is the case that we dont seem to profit from this though...maybe that will come? Rhodes doesnt seem to be benefiting at the moment, presumably that will come...[/p][/quote]He wins nearly every header but he and Rhodes aren't "reading" each other yet.
Also we shouldn't need to rely on Robinson's kicks, Gawd forbid we go back to the hoof and hope days of Lardarse, we need to mix it up more, get people forward and get the ball in from all angles, barring injuries we are getting the types of player now that can do this.[/p][/quote]come on Owd Nick...if youve got a keeper with excellent distribution and a striker that wins every header, do you honestly want us to avoid using their attributes?? It doesnt mean that we cant still pass it around, but it does mean that we have different strings to our bow!
Probably our most impactful feature is how Spurr can throw the ball with pace from near the halfwayline onto Gestedes napper...should we stop using that as well, so that you get to watch us pass around the midfield for a bit longer??
As at Barnsley, teams can soon work out how to stop us passing...but they cant do much to defend against Gestede in the air, so lets utilise all the options!![/p][/quote]Simple answer, no I don't, but once that's your only option, which was basically the case under Lardarse it becomes boring and predictable.
Don't forget that under the hoof and hope "knock it down and win the second ball" option that he dished up ad nauseum Robinson was the top "assist" for at least two seasons (OPTA).
That can't be right in anyone's book.
No problem whatsoever with Spurr's long throw, but again if we overuse it, or become reliant on it other teams will be waiting for it, plan against it, stop it.
Just like Derby did.
We have some good players who can play football, two good wingers (at least) , two good strikers, a decent midfield and full backs who can overlap.
We don't need to rely on hoof and hope anymore, there is far more to us now, all we need is time to develop.[/p][/quote]Might be wrong,but I can't actually remember a Spurr long throw on Saturday.
He definitely didn't go across to take one from the right.[/p][/quote]To be honest I don't remember one either; perhaps it was the conditions or that GB is trying to mix things up a bit.owd nick

I'm actually enjoying watching Rovers this season and can understand what you say about Lardarse, but in fairness, I'd rather see us mid table Premier League and upsetting a few big egos along the way and watching the club slowly build its finances and fan base, than mid table Championship and fixtures against such as Yeovil, Doncaster and Bournemouth while the club gets gradually smaller!!
Just trying to be realistic :)
A few purist (if ignorant) West Ham fans might be weeping this season, but after the few years they have had, I'm sure the people that really know the club will be delighted when they finish top 12 or so and pocket another £90million for doing so!

I'm actually enjoying watching Rovers this season and can understand what you say about Lardarse, but in fairness, I'd rather see us mid table Premier League and upsetting a few big egos along the way and watching the club slowly build its finances and fan base, than mid table Championship and fixtures against such as Yeovil, Doncaster and Bournemouth while the club gets gradually smaller!!
Just trying to be realistic :)
A few purist (if ignorant) West Ham fans might be weeping this season, but after the few years they have had, I'm sure the people that really know the club will be delighted when they finish top 12 or so and pocket another £90million for doing so!realisticrover