If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

So the clip tells us some nice pieces of information:
We will see SSJ3 Goku, but it seems like it will only be SSJ2 Gohan, not Mystic.
We also will see Gogeta which will probably how they beat the "villian"... i think it looked like Gogeta had a tail... anyone else saw this? Perhaps we will see some SSJ4 in a DBZ movie-...

So the clip tells us some nice pieces of information:
We will see SSJ3 Goku, but it seems like it will only be SSJ2 Gohan, not Mystic.
We also will see Gogeta which will probably how they beat the "villian"... i think it looked like Gogeta had a tail... anyone else saw this? Perhaps we will see some SSJ4 in a DBZ movie-...

That wasn't Gogeta under the large death ball/ super nova attack, that was Bils, he has a tail. Puase for the perfect frame you will seee

So the clip tells us some nice pieces of information:
We will see SSJ3 Goku, but it seems like it will only be SSJ2 Gohan, not Mystic.
We also will see Gogeta which will probably how they beat the "villian"... i think it looked like Gogeta had a tail... anyone else saw this? Perhaps we will see some SSJ4 in a DBZ movie-...

That's actually Bils firing that and his tail. It's definitely a brand new looking attack so it's most likely his and it shows Goku having trouble handling it in the next frame.

Really looking forward to that fight in space though, it's going to be quite the show.

The generalist looks outward; he looks for living principles, knowing full well that such principles change, that they develop. It is to the characteristics of change itself that the mentat-generalist must look. There can be no permanent catalogue of such change, no handbook or manual. You must look at it with as few preconceptions as possible, asking yourself, "Now what is this thing doing?"-Children of Dune

Remember when I said I'd give my left nut to know the multiplier of SS4? Well, it's at least 4000.

I don't know why I didn't see it before. Now that I know it seems extremely obvious. Goku as SS3 was getting crunked by Baby. Goku goes SS4, he starts raping Baby. Baby goes Golden Oozaru, their powers are roughly equal. Now, only one assumption must be made. If the Golden Oozaru form is at least as strong as the original Oozaru form, then SS4 would need to be at least a x10 increase over SS3 for Goku to even stand a chance. Therefore, as an absolute minimum, SS4 is a x4000 increase.

If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

That may very well be, but I don't recall Goku ever calling someone "worthless scum". Not even Frieza.

Judging by Genn's love of the saying, I agree, I don't think Goku has said it before. I recently watched the whole series and movies too. All those voices also sound spot on for all the characters, even down to the grunting. I really think it's a legit dub. That fusion/posing art was definitely fan made though.

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The generalist looks outward; he looks for living principles, knowing full well that such principles change, that they develop. It is to the characteristics of change itself that the mentat-generalist must look. There can be no permanent catalogue of such change, no handbook or manual. You must look at it with as few preconceptions as possible, asking yourself, "Now what is this thing doing?"-Children of Dune