on the day it happened I went into work as normal. James's brother went off to london to go to a job interview for the same place as where james works. I was sat for ages and wondering why everyone in the newsroom (had my own office off it) was standing round the TV. I switched mine on and saw. This was the first time I'd realised how much a part of james's family I really felt cos all all I could think was "oh no, what about David?" he was unharmed. he'd not even managed to get into london cos he missed his train.

I think it would be better to give some kind of compensation to the victims. I met the woman in the white mask. she lives in billericay.

Thu May 18, 2006 4:54 pm

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I wasn't aware that one left thousands, where did that come from?
I'm not sure I agree that the perpetrators families should pay as my understanding was that they did not realise wot was happening, plse someone correct me if I'm wrong. but certainly the assets should be frozen until it is established where the money come from and if from non traceable funds should then be distributed accordingly.

Thu May 18, 2006 5:03 pm

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I beleive the one who left £1000s was Tanweer - he was single and unmarried - the press beleive he may have been given this money by the terror leaders he was working with/for as "payment" for what he had done - anyway, there was about £200,000 or more left in his will - unsual for a single 21 year old man who hadn't really had time to estavlish a career or build up a fortune. At any rate, that should pay for the medical expenses of those he maimed.

As for the families "not knowing", to be honest I'd take that with a pinch of salt. Yeah they would obviously say that but some of these families had sent their sons to Pakistan where they had become involved in Muslim Fundamentalism and had attended "Madrassa's" - religious school which breed terrorists. They must have known what their sons were involved in even if they did not know they were going to carry out this actual bombing. The Pakistan-based uncle of Tanweer was quoted as praising his nephew, calling him a Jihadi and a martyr and saying he didn't care about the deaths his nephew had caused.

One had even been in trouble at school for handing out pro-terrorism leaflets praising the 9/11 bombers! Please don't tell me his parents didn't know what he was up to!

Thu May 18, 2006 7:36 pm

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hayleys wrote:

i think it wil just end up as another canvass for the vandalls.

Why not put the money into something useful.

I dont mean to offend but why pay compensation to the families when there are so many other causes out there that need help. No one paid compensation to the families of the victims of the world wars did they (please dont hate me for my opinion). Why not have a memorial fund to help get teenagers or the homeless off the streets.

Society has become to much about compensation these days.

I totally agree with this. We live in a compensation society nowadays. Plus I dont agree that anyone but the culprits were to blame for this.

Thu May 18, 2006 7:44 pm

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hayleys wrote:

but how much value do you put on a persons life.

Plus how would it be divided up, is losing both legs worth less, than a family losing a loved one? It would never work.

Thu May 18, 2006 7:49 pm

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skye29 wrote:

hayleys wrote:

but how much value do you put on a persons life.

Plus how would it be divided up, is losing both legs worth less, than a family losing a loved one? It would never work.

but what about the care that some of the victims needed and still need, to get back to a "normal life" don't they deserve help with that then?

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Thu May 18, 2006 7:56 pm

skye29

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I agree Annie they would need help, but wheres this money going to come from? The government, therefore the tax payers? If so I would much prefer the money to be spent on education, hospital, etc.

What really gets me wound up is most of these supposedly unknowing families of the terrorists, are still living in this country, on benefits. Why cant we stop their money and give that to the victims? Im sorry but any other country would never be as soft as Britian is.

Thu May 18, 2006 8:04 pm

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Personally I think the Government has its spending policies all wrong.

I never considered myself to be a hero, but I've had the honour of serving in Iraq with some.

A person I was out there with (Smudge), he gave his life for a 8 year old girl. This guy took a grenade and kept the little girl safe, at the cost of his life.

Because he was engaged and not married, do you know what his partner of 9 years got?

Nothing, because she wasnt married to him.

(We had a whip round....... Every soldier gave at least £10......... She ended up with £112,000)

Spending a Million pounds on some monument is horrendous.

If it was my choice, I would start a charity thats for the victims and families of victims of terrorism (WORLDWIDE!), and put £1,000,000 in that!

If you are attacked by terrorists in a foriegn country you get absolutely nothing!

Maybe some of the money from the charity could be used to fly pple home for burial!

I would like to know what is is going to be made of ...Million quid
Im sure the victims is they had a say would rather the money be better spent.Im not saying ther shouldn't be something to represent the events of 7/7.I just think it should be tasteful ,and dont see why it has to cost so much.Give the rest to the families.

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Fri May 19, 2006 11:27 am

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maybe some money should be invested in security and training the police even more to prevent such horrible events taking place

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Fri May 19, 2006 11:52 am

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i don't think it is a good idea to assume that families of the terrorists knew what was going on and so should be held accountable. i'm sure some of them did or had suspisions but if it can't be proven they should be left alone. i wouldn't like to be blamed for something a member of my family did and i don't think anyone else would. people chose their own paths and it is suprisingly easy to lead a double life. if your brother for example got drunk and ran someone over and killed them should you have to pay out to the victims family because you knew he was the type to drink a bit much and possible get in a car over the limit.

i also agree with however it was that said society is too much about compensation these days. obviously the victims need money i'm not denying that but bad things happen everyday, people get murdered, have accidents or die because of illness and money isn't going to change that. i find it a bit odd that we expect the government to give us cash everytime something bad happens in our lives even when they weren't the one's who did it.

Fri May 19, 2006 12:27 pm

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I still think that £200,000 or whatever it was that Tanweer left (and I'm sure the others left money too - if Tanweer was paid for what he did I imagine they all were) should go to help those who have been incapacitated or run up huge medical costs because of the injuries they sustained in the blasts. The money should be frozen so that the bombers' families can't spend it.

The bombers caused this misery, they should pay for it.

Fri May 19, 2006 12:49 pm

LadyMoonlight

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Chimp wrote:

i don't think it is a good idea to assume that families of the terrorists knew what was going on and so should be held accountable. i'm sure some of them did or had suspisions but if it can't be proven they should be left alone. who did it.

I think its very naive to assume they were completely innocent of what was going on. Whether or not they should be penalised is another matter but I'm pretty damned sure they knew.

Fri May 19, 2006 12:50 pm

SueT66

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I'm not sure that the members of the dead should get compensation from the Government as most people should have life insurance, but as I said not to sure if that is fair.
The victims get payment from the Criminal Compensation Board but payments are not indictative of the requirements required for a life time of care. The Goverment should work harder with the CCB to have ongoing relations with victims to cover their needs and not have fixed awards for certain injuries.