New Creepy 10/28/11 Website Mystery

Hidden hand said that the negative Harvest was for those who are working for the negative harvest. There was to be/will be a positive harvest as well.
Go back and re-read.

I have no clue if hidden hand is valid or not, a lot of what was said has shown not to be correct...but it felt...well it felt like it was going in
the proper path.

Can you give me a link to that thread please?

Thanks!

Hi favouriteslave, I see that this request was over looked. I did a post with that info
here.

That post has the different harvest types listed with links to the original threads and a link to The Law of One, Ra Material.

Please note that Hidden_Hand made wrong predictions in the thread. I firmly believe that the Hidden_Hand material is just a retelling of The Law of
One, with the predictions thrown in for flair to create a sense of urgency on the material. Also, Hidden_Hand links the "harvest" to the classic
date of December 21, 2012.

So the negs will be harvested and disappear from here. The highest Elites will be gone. We will have a chance to create a great reality here.

My understanding is that the harvest will be for both positive and negative.
It's been a while, but if I recall correctly:

* over 95% service to self - moving to 4th density negative (and that's why TPTB really have to push it, to reach that %)
* over 51% service to others - moving to 4th density positive (this upgraded Earth)
* in between those percentages the 'lukewarms' - moving to another 3rd density earth replica to repeat the cycle

Time of harvest possibly (??) in October 2011 ('approximately thirty of your years', said in 1981)

Fourth density negative is only for a few.

The choice between the two options:

Love ----> fourth density positive new earth (this one)
Fear -----> third density (repeat class somewhere else, though it may look like the same ol' earth)

Well we have Pi & Phi. Now Pi you can compute out to infinite decimal places. Or can you? Just because we cannot mathematically solve Pi, yet, does
not mean we will never succeed. Perhaps, like the Universe it keeps on expanding. There is no entropy with Pi. Or is there? Now Phi is a constant
found everywhere in Nature. Spirals are everywhere. Billions of spiral Galaxies. Here we sit in this little Milky Way Galaxy out on the Orion Arm.
What is the circumference of our Galaxy? Can I get a Pi? Nope. Still expanding and whirling about in a spiral. Our solar system which we cal Sol is
also whirling about in a spiral but will soon align on the plane of our Milky Way Galaxy. As your whirling about in all these spirals, the cone
becomes smaller and smaller until you get to just a point at the bottom of the cone. Perhaps we then pop through the membrane or plane and begin
spiraling outward, expanding on the other side of the plane.

It is souly up to YOU.
the two coincide, meshing together into an ultimate realization for those who take the time
to examine/practice the exercises.
Those who choose to rather view this as a game tend to refrain from participating in the exercises, simply following along online focusing on puzzles,
skeptic to believe anything that isn't spoon fed out of a textbook.

-please note: I am not holding anything against those who are following this experience as a joke, just curious to see the punchline, rather
perpetually disappointed that society has ever gotten to this point: educated in lies, while specially trained to be closed minded towards any subject
the government doesn't want you to think you, most commonly through the stigmata of being viewed as "crazy"

You can't take sides, and you cannot chose, no one is forcing anyone to chose.
That site is part of elitist agenda, numerology crap like they understand the nature of the universe, like little robots. Freaking robots. Numbers are
not important, what is important is the meaning, that cannot and will never be calculated. I'm not saying numerology and calculations are bad, if it
is an addiction then it is bad.

I would like to mention that one side is incomplete without the other, so you can't chose one over the other.
Too much love and you become vulnerable, too afraid and you hit the other extreme, you are too closed.

Just getting back from a camp trip and reconnecting with nauture for a few days. It looks like a lot changed...2 new manuals, new home page, over 100
pages added to the thread. Did anything happen with regard to the counter ticking down to 4092333735 or changes relative to 9/11?

Originally posted by 200457
Ok so back to pi. I asked open for a hint in figuring out pi.html and got this in reply:

"Here's a little boost. What is Pi? You need to know why Pi happens. After you have understanding, look at pictures of galaxies, apply that
knowledge to them. It's only a step."

So galaxies are circular, spirals, and rotating. How can pi relate to that? We also know that some galaxies, like ours, have a black hole in the
center.

edit on 12-9-2011 by 200457 because: (no reason given)

Pi is the only direction left after the 2D. a singularity or point is 1D. Two singularities connected by a line is 2D. The natural direction would
be for one dot to stay put and the other to travel around as a compass does to draw a circle.

So we need 2 singularities to acheive a Pi?

We need 3 dots.

Not even sure why I am saying this. Just came to my mind.
I was thinking 3D, the sphere/Universe
The 2D arc of Pi, extends tridimensionally by a third point of reference.
Does it make any sense?

Originally posted by 200457
I'm thinking it could be that singularity exists in all dimensions at once, so it is not a true singularity. It is a sphere, such as the universe,
because the universe is expanding in all directions at an equal rate.

Say we are at singularity. It is a dot, but if a two dimensional observer would view it as a circle, correct? The dot is just that after all. Then the
3-d observer, which could be us, would view it as a sphere. After all, all is contained in singularity, so we would have to assume that our universe
is a sphere, due to pi's constraints on what a sphere is.

Please tell me someone understands what I am getting at, it is so hard to explain.

I think you are expressing with better words
what was coming to my mind.

Originally posted by adraves
[I remember there being mentions in TEXT msgs and e-mails that there is a code to be found. I think the supposed pin is it. *xxxx

Text messages? I did not know it was possible to send a text to a landline

Sorry for the late reply TNT. Yes, it is possible to send text messages to a landline. I think most major mobile carriers offer this service.
www.wisegeek.com...

As counterintuitive as it may sound, it is possible for certain cellular phone customers to send a text message to a landline. The recipient of
such a text message does not need a modified telephone, however. The text message is automatically converted to an automated voice message through
"text to voice" technology. All the recipient must do is listen to the message and respond with a recorded voice message of his or her own.

Originally posted by 200457
I'm thinking it could be that singularity exists in all dimensions at once, so it is not a true singularity. It is a sphere, such as the universe,
because the universe is expanding in all directions at an equal rate.

Say we are at singularity. It is a dot, but if a two dimensional observer would view it as a circle, correct? The dot is just that after all. Then the
3-d observer, which could be us, would view it as a sphere. After all, all is contained in singularity, so we would have to assume that our universe
is a sphere, due to pi's constraints on what a sphere is.

Please tell me someone understands what I am getting at, it is so hard to explain.

I'm following...........

All is contained within each sinularity. You cannot have a 2nd or 3rd dimension unless you start with 2 singularities. Imagine two (circles) Pi's
one behind another with space between. Draw a line from one circle to the one behind it. Somewhat like making a tube. I'm still babbling and
brainstorming in my head.

Or...
the two circles are intersecting each other, rather than being one behind another.
This way, they form a 3D sphere.

Originally posted by Didymus42
Just getting back from a camp trip and reconnecting with nauture for a few days. It looks like a lot changed...2 new manuals, new home page, over 100
pages added to the thread. Did anything happen with regard to the counter ticking down to 4092333735 or changes relative to 9/11?

I recently did the same. Didn't it feel amazing?

As for the changes, to summarize, yes a lot has changed in a material context, but little has changed in regards to the message. For clues, we're
mainly focusing on the meaning of Pi, its been the main discussion topic these past few days and Open says we've yet to understand it. The most
notable posts I've read so far regarding Pi have been a link to an ebook called
The Metaphysical Significance of Pi and a realization that we can never truly
know the circumference of a circle because pi is infinite.

As it stands now, I think Open is stressing the point of not becoming too engulfed into the material aspects of the website. Just observe and reflect
on the larger picture, and of course continue your work with the Manuals: #1#2#3#4

TNT, you may have voiced this before, but if you do not agree with the pack mentality at any given moment, your voice will be overlooked and brushed
aside.

Grower, please allow me to say this (and not to you specifically), but to say that it falls on deaf ears, that there is a pack mentality, that those
who continue to be interested in this are brainwashed, is completely unfair.

I sense a superiority complex, like 'we know better than you silly herd of sheep', that has no solid ground. For one, there is a bunch of sharp
minds here, math and spiritually oriented, who are compelled to find out what this all means. Secondly, even the skeptics keep coming back like a moth
to a flame, and don't tell me that this is not because you also are secretly curious to know where it all leads in the end (but don't want to admit
it).

I appreciate those who are skeptical, and thank god that there is a mix of both here to create balance. It's even fun to follow that drama. It's the
way in which this is expressed that sometimes I do not agree with.

To me, the truth is that it's just a different approach to finding out what this site is about. Those actively involved in solving 'the puzzle'
because they are intrigued, and those busy telling others that this is meaningless, but follow the thread nonetheless. Active/passive interest. No one
is better than the other.

Stating that this is meaningless/suspicious/dangerous/pointless doesn't make one more intelligent than the ones that have been discussing the content
of the site, sharing at times beautiful insights. We are all intelligent, we have just chosen to focus our minds in a different direction. I see no
pack mentality here. I see bright minds.

Peace.

Gee, buddhatrance, that sure did seem to be to me pretty 'specifically', but the last I knew, we are 'allowed' to say
what we'd like.

Don't even pretend to know where my point of view on this is coming from,
because you don't have a clue.

Messing with the messages Open is sending can be dangerous. Very, very dangerous.
Period. It's not something you mess with if you don't know what you're doing. You
need a true teacher to learn this, not some clues or puzzles thrown about on a website and
Open, sure as heck, isn't that teacher. It takes years to get it right, not mere months.
How do I know? Because I've been where he's directing you.

Just a few points to make in response to all the happy little clues he's throwing out:
(and how about actually thinking about it for once?!)

You can't solve Pi. It's infinite. Good luck with that, though.

As far as time doesn't exist - really?
Would you like to be the one to tell that to all those people
who fell from the towers on 9-11 that the 9.2 seconds of free fall
didn't exist?

These people lived in REALITY. The survivors live in REALITY. We hurt every single day, in REALITY!
I do not 'choose' this reality.

How about the kids who lost parents. Would you like to tell them that time doesn't exist, so
therefore it is irrelevant how long their parents suffered before they died?
That it doesn't matter they're not here to spend 'time' with them while they're growing up?

How about, since we are all one, how come we didn't use that oneness to save all those people?
Global consciousness? Really? Don't you think that's the day, of all days, we would have chosen to
use it?

Oh, that's right, Open has decided it isn't time yet.

Just for info sake, I haven't been to the website in days. And there is a reason I haven't.
But, unfortunately, I do feel some sort of responsibility to those that are getting sucked in.
Not everyone who has access to the internet is mentally stable. And some are walking a very thin tight rope.
Not everyone is going to see goodness and light. THINK about that.
Are YOU going to take responsibilty when someone practices those manuals and sees something they
shouldn't have that alters their mental thoughts and they decide to act on it in a very negative way?
Of course not, because you'll decide you can't be the one resbonsibly for other people's actions. They choose their own path, right?

Hmmm, but didn't Open state that we are all one?

Have you even taken into consideration how many copyright laws Open and his
little band of minions has broken with that site? Not very smart.

But, God forbid anyone question anything about that site or Opens 'message', right?

This is the last thing I'll say in response to you:
Manson truly started out by preaching peace, goodness and light. We know exactly where that lead. Think about it.

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