I tried to think of why Panther was rounding out that trio - with no success as well. If they were so hard up for somebody to round out that trio, it would have been a great time for Wagner to break out his kick-ass camouflage ring attire.

Anything that has Apolo Dantes doing a tope has to be worth something.

Gran Markus seems a bit thinner than he was during the mid 90's. He was truly built like a VW bug then. Bigger than Super Porky.

I loved the ads during these shows, especially the ones for the real-life bumblebee man show. Better than some of them that I saw while watching some 1997-ish Promo Azteca - a guy in minstrel show blackface promoting a furniture store.

Is it just me, or is Loco Max somewhat stiff of a worker by the loose lucha standards?

It was nice to see Safari in a match that wasn't clipped down to only show the final fall.

619 from Black Tiger! With his stocky physique, I was almost fooled.

Mascara Ano 2000 and V3 didn't stink things up too badly in that one.

I'll agree - that was one of the more lethal looking Wagner drivers. Actually, a lot of the exchanges involving Wagner & Niebla in this match were really well done. They had a nice singles match in September 1997 that is worth seeking out.

The GDI triple team submission that showed up during Momentos is very high on my long list of screwy looking lucha submissions.

Tom, part 1: See that part where I said "Tanvir and Albert may be doing something"? Well there you go. Nice timing on that question. I'll get more specfic when they actually start on it, just to be on the safe side.

Tom, part 2: Hosting company e-mailed ME (and everyone else) to explain the server went unrepsonsive and they had no idea why - but they turned off ColdFusion and everything's peachy now. So good for me - it should be fine now.

And now lots of Homer:

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>I tried to think of why Panther was rounding out that trio - with no success as well. If they were so hard up for somebody >to round out that trio, it would have been a great time for Wagner to break out his kick-ass camouflage ring attire.

Maybe Panther being here was just to fit someone in this fued; it has to be a rudo, but you have to find someone who would make sense to be feuding against the normally-rudo Capos. Maybe they just owed Panther a couple Colieso paydays?

What's weird is how the Boricuas have suddenly tightened up the roster - Bulldog's apparently gone (yay), Killer's apparently gone (yay) - they don't have as many people to cart to the ring each time.

>Is it just me, or is Loco Max somewhat stiff of a worker by the loose lucha standards?

While MY2K has been eh every time I see him and I expect that by now, I keep thinking waiting Villano III to be better than par in a match, and he never really shows it off. The first time I saw him in any length was the mask match against Atlantis, so maybe my expectations in him are just extra high.

>I'll agree - that was one of the more lethal looking Wagner drivers. Actually, a lot of the exchanges involving Wagner & >Niebla in this match were really well done. They had a nice singles match in September 1997 that is worth seeking out.

Hmm, there's another one. You know what would be neat is if someone put together a list of some of that good lucha stuff. It's so odd - you can get bios and bits of history from places like La Arena, but compared to all the puro info/discussion on there, there's nothing to figure out what were the good fueds/matches from the past (besides the obvious WWC match). I've heard good things about Niebla/Shocker and much about Casas/Santo but no one speaks in mythical terms about them like certian AJPW matches - makes them much harder to track down.

Did you watch the Wagner/Niebla one that aired this week? I'm putting that show off till I get the next episode on tape done...

>The GDI triple team submission that showed up during Momentos is very high on my long list of screwy looking lucha >submissions.

You know, the scary thing aren't that they're wacky, it's that they look like they actually work.

>No, TCF, I don't think Beckie ever won a match with the >Farmer's Roll. I wonder if I could use this as an excuse >to break out all my WOW tapes?

Do you really need a reason to watch WOW? Someday, I'm gonna look back and see how well tha ages.

>I hope Rivera gets a nice push coming out of all this Guapos angle. >I've always liked his stuff, and he's been stuck in the EMLL low card >for quite the while. He's on some of my 1997-era tapes.

If the point of the Nuevo Guapos was to push the a rudo trio and support Magica and Shocker, I think Tony would have been the best pick. It's unlikely he'd over shadow the other two, he can take the bumps to sell for those two, and he's more convicing as a rudo than Ricky. I guess it turned out it was to try and create a new star and Tony's back to third from the top Coliseo matches, sadly.