Post by Dennis Alan Jacobsen on Apr 16, 2018 16:32:44 GMT -5

Cherie, thank you for posting what you did in the cult thread. Today, years later, I stand by every bit I posted way back then. Workers used Wally’s reasoning regarding Therold’s behavior way back then. He had many who obtained honor and favor through him and his oversight. Once I did also.

Actually, I made no accusations for many years against either him or the popular worker given over to homosexuality. Only after they both sought to add to my plight by outright lies did I begin to rethink my silence.

Wally, has it not occurred to you that people may know there is no other side to a true account? The problem with untrue accounts are simply that they change as years pass. My account has NOT changed, and will not change throughout eternity. It simply is what it is. My own parents believed Tharold, why should I expect anyone here to believe me in my account here or anywhere since. People who did know of the thruth of my situation have respected my request of them to just let it die, lest they find themselves in the same situation as myself.

it has been told to me that I left this forum here over “money.” Totally untrue. I left here over my aging and faulty memory, AND that I believe Psalms One gave direction to do so. I miss those who I still consider my friends, including any atheists, and others, to whom I will always owe apology for my failing memory.

Post by wally on Apr 16, 2018 17:06:17 GMT -5

Cherie, thank you for posting what you did in the cult thread. Today, years later, I stand by every bit I posted way back then. Workers used Wally’s reasoning regarding Therold’s behavior way back then. He had many who obtained honor and favor through him and his oversight. Once I did also.

Actually, I made no accusations for many years against either him or the popular worker given over to homosexuality. Only after they both sought to add to my plight by outright lies did I begin to rethink my silence.

Wally, has it not occurred to you that people may know there is no other side to a true account? The problem with untrue accounts are simply that they change as years pass. My account has NOT changed, and will not change throughout eternity. It simply is what it is. My own parents believed Tharold, why should I expect anyone here to believe me in my account here or anywhere since. People who did know of the thruth of my situation have respected my request of them to just let it die, lest they find themselves in the same situation as myself.

it has been told to me that I left this forum here over “money.” Totally untrue. I left here over my aging and faulty memory, AND that I believe Psalms One gave direction to do so. I miss those who I still consider my friends, including any atheists, and others, to whom I will always owe apology for my failing memory.

Sincerely,

Dennis Jacobsen

i did not know there was a written account of what happened i've now read the excerpt cherie posted but as your own account suggests it still leaves some questions but for the sake of peace i'll not comment anymore on your situation regardless if others do......

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Post by rational on Apr 18, 2018 8:23:28 GMT -5

Cherie, thank you for posting what you did in the cult thread. Today, years later, I stand by every bit I posted way back then. Workers used Wally’s reasoning regarding Therold’s behavior way back then. He had many who obtained honor and favor through him and his oversight. Once I did also.

Actually, I made no accusations for many years against either him or the popular worker given over to homosexuality. Only after they both sought to add to my plight by outright lies did I begin to rethink my silence.

Wally, has it not occurred to you that people may know there is no other side to a true account? The problem with untrue accounts are simply that they change as years pass. My account has NOT changed, and will not change throughout eternity. It simply is what it is. My own parents believed Tharold, why should I expect anyone here to believe me in my account here or anywhere since. People who did know of the thruth of my situation have respected my request of them to just let it die, lest they find themselves in the same situation as myself.

it has been told to me that I left this forum here over “money.” Totally untrue. I left here over my aging and faulty memory, AND that I believe Psalms One gave direction to do so. I miss those who I still consider my friends, including any atheists, and others, to whom I will always owe apology for my failing memory.

Sincerely,

Dennis Jacobsen

Hey Dennis! Glad to see you are back and posting.Why not rejoin? After all, you and I have been poking at one another since the Common Ground Forum! Who better than you for me to poke at?

Memories fail. Many studies have been done to show the malleability of even the memories that we cling to with the most conviction. I recently had the opportunity to revisit a place from my past and had the difficult task of having my memory confronted with hard physical evidence.

Post by friend on Apr 18, 2018 8:48:47 GMT -5

Cherie, thank you for posting what you did in the cult thread. Today, years later, I stand by every bit I posted way back then. Workers used Wally’s reasoning regarding Therold’s behavior way back then. He had many who obtained honor and favor through him and his oversight. Once I did also.

Actually, I made no accusations for many years against either him or the popular worker given over to homosexuality. Only after they both sought to add to my plight by outright lies did I begin to rethink my silence.

Wally, has it not occurred to you that people may know there is no other side to a true account? The problem with untrue accounts are simply that they change as years pass. My account has NOT changed, and will not change throughout eternity. It simply is what it is. My own parents believed Tharold, why should I expect anyone here to believe me in my account here or anywhere since. People who did know of the thruth of my situation have respected my request of them to just let it die, lest they find themselves in the same situation as myself.

it has been told to me that I left this forum here over “money.” Totally untrue. I left here over my aging and faulty memory, AND that I believe Psalms One gave direction to do so. I miss those who I still consider my friends, including any atheists, and others, to whom I will always owe apology for my failing memory.

Sincerely,

Dennis Jacobsen

Hey Dennis! Glad to see you are back and posting.Why not rejoin? After all, you and I have been poking at one another since the Common Ground Forum! Who better than you for me to poke at?

Memories fail. Many studies have been done to show the malleability of even the memories that we cling to with the most conviction. I recently had the opportunity to revisit a place from my past and had the difficult task of having my memory confronted with hard physical evidence.

Post by rational on Apr 18, 2018 13:53:09 GMT -5

Hey Dennis! Glad to see you are back and posting.Why not rejoin? After all, you and I have been poking at one another since the Common Ground Forum! Who better than you for me to poke at?

Memories fail. Many studies have been done to show the malleability of even the memories that we cling to with the most conviction. I recently had the opportunity to revisit a place from my past and had the difficult task of having my memory confronted with hard physical evidence.

So sign up - come on back.

ha, and why should any believe the myths espoused byNonbelievers?

In the case of Dennis, perhaps because I believe he is an intelligent person with integrity. Unlike you, he will evaluate supported claims made and is willing to respond to questions with his own supported responses.

Post by snow on Apr 18, 2018 15:17:02 GMT -5

Cherie, thank you for posting what you did in the cult thread. Today, years later, I stand by every bit I posted way back then. Workers used Wally’s reasoning regarding Therold’s behavior way back then. He had many who obtained honor and favor through him and his oversight. Once I did also.

Actually, I made no accusations for many years against either him or the popular worker given over to homosexuality. Only after they both sought to add to my plight by outright lies did I begin to rethink my silence.

Wally, has it not occurred to you that people may know there is no other side to a true account? The problem with untrue accounts are simply that they change as years pass. My account has NOT changed, and will not change throughout eternity. It simply is what it is. My own parents believed Tharold, why should I expect anyone here to believe me in my account here or anywhere since. People who did know of the thruth of my situation have respected my request of them to just let it die, lest they find themselves in the same situation as myself.

it has been told to me that I left this forum here over “money.” Totally untrue. I left here over my aging and faulty memory, AND that I believe Psalms One gave direction to do so. I miss those who I still consider my friends, including any atheists, and others, to whom I will always owe apology for my failing memory.

Sincerely,

Dennis Jacobsen

Hey Dennis! Glad to see you are back and posting.Why not rejoin? After all, you and I have been poking at one another since the Common Ground Forum! Who better than you for me to poke at?

Memories fail. Many studies have been done to show the malleability of even the memories that we cling to with the most conviction. I recently had the opportunity to revisit a place from my past and had the difficult task of having my memory confronted with hard physical evidence.

So sign up - come on back.

I second that Rational. Dennis come on back. My memory is degrading all the time and it's very frustrating. But everyone understands that it happens as we age and sometimes when we're younger too. It's not a fault, it simply is how life goes. We would much rather have you back then have you worry about not remembering something. I have always known if I forget something, someone will remind me!

In the end there will only be three things that matter. How much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of the things not meant for you. The BuddhaMorality comes not from a book, or a guy up in the sky, but from the idea that how you treat people matters, because how people feel matters. Unknown.

Post by friend on Apr 18, 2018 18:18:20 GMT -5

In the case of Dennis, perhaps because I believe he is an intelligent person with integrity. Unlike you, he will evaluate supported claims made and is willing to respond to questions with his own supported responses.

Interesting.

Yet , even with such kind words , the proof is quiteplain to see,

Nevertheless, you have no basis for claiming that a(theism) is anything but a myth, and that is/hasbeen documented on my previous several analogies,

but it is certainly nice to see an acclaimed lawyer (Mark Lanier)Weigh in on the scale of balance , with much prejudice and integrity.

He read all the books written on the subject, and asA good logician/lawyer knows a poorly defended concept/hypothesiswhen it is presented in court. Thank you for responding,

Post by Roselyn T on Apr 18, 2018 18:44:30 GMT -5

Hey Dennis! Glad to see you are back and posting.Why not rejoin? After all, you and I have been poking at one another since the Common Ground Forum! Who better than you for me to poke at?

Memories fail. Many studies have been done to show the malleability of even the memories that we cling to with the most conviction. I recently had the opportunity to revisit a place from my past and had the difficult task of having my memory confronted with hard physical evidence.

So sign up - come on back.

I second that Rational. Dennis come on back. My memory is degrading all the time and it's very frustrating. But everyone understands that it happens as we age and sometimes when we're younger too. It's not a fault, it simply is how life goes. We would much rather have you back then have you worry about not remembering something. I have always known if I forget something, someone will remind me!

Post by howitis on Apr 18, 2018 18:51:57 GMT -5

Dear Dennis,Thank you for returning, even as a guest, at least we know you are still ok.It is a very feeble society that cannot withstand the forgetfulness of another member. I would hope that all on this forum are able to rise above such feebleness and welcome you back with open arms and hearts.We miss you xxx

Post by dmmichgood on Apr 18, 2018 19:50:51 GMT -5

Hey Dennis! Glad to see you are back and posting.Why not rejoin? After all, you and I have been poking at one another since the Common Ground Forum! Who better than you for me to poke at?

Memories fail. Many studies have been done to show the malleability of even the memories that we cling to with the most conviction. I recently had the opportunity to revisit a place from my past and had the difficult task of having my memory confronted with hard physical evidence.

So sign up - come on back.

ha, and why should any believe the myths espoused byNonbelievers?

friend?You have just exhibited the fact that you are NOT a "friend."

How dare you talk like that about someone you don't even know!

I knew that you were ignorant of a lot of things but now you have also revealed your lack of character as well!

Post by rational on Apr 19, 2018 7:24:02 GMT -5

Thus , strictly speaking you are more or less an agnostic,(One that is waiting for proof).

So that means , there is hope , a lot of hope . 🙂

You can prattle on for as long as you wish.

I do not believe in paranormal entities. God, faeries, elves, trolls, etc all included.

As I have said, I try to base my beliefs on verifiable facts.

As it stands, there are no verifiable facts to support the existence of paranormal entities, the ones I mentioned as well as all others, so I do not believe they exist. I do not question their existence. I am not agnostic in that regard.

If, however, verifiable facts are presented I will evaluate them in regards to my beliefs and make the changes needed to accommodate the new data. So you can go on and on about what you feel I believe but unless I am very bored you will not be getting an reply.

Post by Dennis J on Apr 19, 2018 22:53:59 GMT -5

Hello, my real name is Dennis Jacobsen. I have returned because of the kindnesses of others, and people should already know whom they are. Thank you.

Smile! it does not mean I agree with anyone’s atheism, just that like my Lord, I let people believe what they will, and expect the same in return.

I am still shook up over the aspect of my complete memory failure here. Such is part of my life.

My neighbor lady told Katie some real whoppers about me today. Naturally Katie told me. Unbelievable, and totally impossible. Had it occurred a couple of months earlier... but it really shook me up. Supposedly Ylva’s 4 sisters related the wild story to her while standing in our combined driveway in 1989. Problem? Ylva had NO sisters and neither my neighbor nor we were even living here then! I may be 75 years old, but I could not have forgotten THAT! The account was so preposterous Katie knew it was untrue!

Anyway, I am who I am, and, yes, I am ashamed of anything I ought to be that I am not.

No, Wally, not going to relate my neighbors wild accusations! Guess that must make them believable for some! Huge sigh!

Not doing so well these days, but could always be worse! Nearly totally deaf, the VA just gave me improved hearing aids today. Very thankful for them. Wanting to operate our new 50 hp diesel lawnmower for the first time tomorrow. Maybe just wishful desires...

Post by howitis on Apr 19, 2018 23:01:23 GMT -5

Hello, my real name is Dennis Jacobsen. I have returned because of the kindnesses of others, and people should already know whom they are. Thank you.

Smile! it does not mean I agree with anyone’s atheism, just that like my Lord, I let people believe what they will, and expect the same in return.

I am still shook up over the aspect of my complete memory failure here. Such is part of my life.

My neighbor lady told Katie some real whoppers about me today. Naturally Katie told me. Unbelievable, and totally impossible. Had it occurred a couple of months earlier... but it really shook me up. Supposedly Ylva’s 4 sisters related the wild story to her while standing in our combined driveway in 1989. Problem? Ylva had NO sisters and neither my neighbor nor we were even living here then! I may be 75 years old, but I could not have forgotten THAT! The account was so preposterous Katie knew it was untrue!

Anyway, I am who I am, and, yes, I am ashamed of anything I ought to be that I am not.

No, Wally, not going to relate my neighbors wild accusations! Guess that must make them believable for some! Huge sigh!

Not doing so well these days, but could always be worse! Nearly totally deaf, the VA just gave me improved hearing aids today. Very thankful for them. Wanting to operate our new 50 hp diesel lawnmower for the first time tomorrow. Maybe just wishful desires...

S’ all.

Welcome back Dennis, if it is truly you, none of us are perfect and all are just that little closer to the finishing line than before. Take care my friend infirmities and all xxx

Post by friend on Apr 20, 2018 3:00:18 GMT -5

Hello, my real name is Dennis Jacobsen. I have returned because of the kindnesses of others, and people should already know whom they are. Thank you.

Smile! it does not mean I agree with anyone’s atheism, just that like my Lord, I let people believe what they will, and expect the same in return.

I am still shook up over the aspect of my complete memory failure here. Such is part of my life.

My neighbor lady told Katie some real whoppers about me today. Naturally Katie told me. Unbelievable, and totally impossible. Had it occurred a couple of months earlier... but it really shook me up. Supposedly Ylva’s 4 sisters related the wild story to her while standing in our combined driveway in 1989. Problem? Ylva had NO sisters and neither my neighbor nor we were even living here then! I may be 75 years old, but I could not have forgotten THAT! The account was so preposterous Katie knew it was untrue!

Anyway, I am who I am, and, yes, I am ashamed of anything I ought to be that I am not.

No, Wally, not going to relate my neighbors wild accusations! Guess that must make them believable for some! Huge sigh!

Not doing so well these days, but could always be worse! Nearly totally deaf, the VA just gave me improved hearing aids today. Very thankful for them. Wanting to operate our new 50 hp diesel lawnmower for the first time tomorrow. Maybe just wishful desires...

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