What would be required to prove the existence of a "god"? - Think Atheist2015-03-03T20:41:59Zhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/forum/topics/what-would-be-required-to-prove-the-existence-of-a-god?xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThis could easily be done by…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-05-21:1982180:Comment:13156812013-05-21T20:36:59.199ZJimmyhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/Jimmy7
<p>This could easily be done by an extraterrestrial technology that has evolved eons ahead of our own. Who was it that said that a miracle by the bible's standards would be indistinguishable from an extraterrestrial technology?</p>
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<p>This could easily be done by an extraterrestrial technology that has evolved eons ahead of our own. Who was it that said that a miracle by the bible's standards would be indistinguishable from an extraterrestrial technology?</p>
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<p></p> Ok, there have been some pret…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-05-18:1982180:Comment:13130502013-05-18T12:58:15.860ZShawn Closehttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/ShawnClose
<p>Ok, there have been some pretty creative responses, but I'm going to change the question a little bit now. What would be the LEAST amount of proof that would be required for you to start entertaining the idea that there is a supernatural intelligence at work in the universe?</p>
<p>Ok, there have been some pretty creative responses, but I'm going to change the question a little bit now. What would be the LEAST amount of proof that would be required for you to start entertaining the idea that there is a supernatural intelligence at work in the universe?</p> DMT is orders of magnitude di…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-05-18:1982180:Comment:13127452013-05-18T09:47:14.921ZJimmyhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/Jimmy7
<p>DMT is orders of magnitude different in its effect from opium. I wouldn't even compare the two. The only way I could imagine drilling a hole working out in that way is that if DMT is released, after all it is part of the NDE.</p>
<p>DMT is orders of magnitude different in its effect from opium. I wouldn't even compare the two. The only way I could imagine drilling a hole working out in that way is that if DMT is released, after all it is part of the NDE.</p> That would need some doing. S…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-05-18:1982180:Comment:13130252013-05-18T08:00:27.488ZMagnus Mayushttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/MagnusMayus
That would need some doing. Something that only this deity could do - like forming another moon in front of our eyes and have it circle around our planet. If it is that kind dude they speak about in Paul then I would accept it if he came down and ended poverty, famine, and war on Earth. No, those are not too bigger tasks for a being described as omnipotent.
That would need some doing. Something that only this deity could do - like forming another moon in front of our eyes and have it circle around our planet. If it is that kind dude they speak about in Paul then I would accept it if he came down and ended poverty, famine, and war on Earth. No, those are not too bigger tasks for a being described as omnipotent. Carl Sagan, in his book Conta…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-05-18:1982180:Comment:13130022013-05-18T04:30:50.952ZPatrick Hersheyhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/PatrickHershey
<p>Carl Sagan, in his book <em>Contact</em>, proposes an interesting and clever scenario that would certainly raise eyebrows at least. I think the following would be a very good start for evidence of the existence of a sentient creator.<br></br><br></br>This is from Wiki.<br></br><br></br>"<span>Ellie, acting upon a suggestion by the senders of the message, works on a program which computes the digits of …</span></p>
<p>Carl Sagan, in his book <em>Contact</em>, proposes an interesting and clever scenario that would certainly raise eyebrows at least. I think the following would be a very good start for evidence of the existence of a sentient creator.<br/><br/>This is from Wiki.<br/><br/>"<span>Ellie, acting upon a suggestion by the senders of the message, works on a program which computes the digits of </span><i><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%A0" title="&#x3A0;" class="mw-redirect">pi</a></i><span> to record lengths in different bases. Very far from the decimal point (10</span><sup>20</sup><span>) and in </span><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_(exponentiation)" title="Base (exponentiation)">base</a><span> </span><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undecimal" title="Undecimal" class="mw-redirect">11</a><span>, it finds that a special pattern </span><i>does</i><span> exist when the numbers stop varying randomly and start producing 1s and 0s in a very long string. The string's length is the product of 11 prime numbers. The 1s and 0s when organized as a square of specific dimensions form a </span><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasterisation" title="Rasterisation">rasterized</a><span> circle. The extraterrestrials suggest that this is a </span><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature" title="Signature">signature</a><span> incorporated into the Universe itself. Yet the extraterrestrials are just as ignorant to its meaning as Ellie, as it could be still some sort of a statistical anomaly. They also make reference to older artifacts built from space time itself (namely the wormhole transit system) abandoned by a prior civilization. A line in the book suggests that the image is a foretaste of deeper marvels hidden even further within </span><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi" title="Pi">pi</a><span>. This new pursuit becomes analogous to SETI; it is another search for meaningful signals in apparent noise."</span></p> @Jimmy;
Drilling a hole thru…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-05-17:1982180:Comment:13120552013-05-17T14:02:33.693ZGregg R Thomashttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/GreggRThomas
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<p>Drilling a hole thru your skull in the right place 'works' too, hell, try it for yourself.</p>
<p>Drugs plus thinking does not equal reason, but it can be a good time. Ever tried Opium? That's some good shit. ;)</p>
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<p>Drilling a hole thru your skull in the right place 'works' too, hell, try it for yourself.</p>
<p>Drugs plus thinking does not equal reason, but it can be a good time. Ever tried Opium? That's some good shit. ;)</p> Pretty serious. I mean, just…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-05-17:1982180:Comment:13121932013-05-17T08:31:53.860ZJimmyhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/Jimmy7
<p>Pretty serious. I mean, just read about people who've messed with DMT or have taken very high amounts of entheogens. Hell, try it for yourself.</p>
<p>Pretty serious. I mean, just read about people who've messed with DMT or have taken very high amounts of entheogens. Hell, try it for yourself.</p> A guest appearance would be n…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-05-16:1982180:Comment:13113972013-05-16T02:43:06.893ZMatt Giwerhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/MattGiwer
<p>A guest appearance would be nice. Screw the ephemeral stuff. Take a walk down every street and talk to everyone at the same time and do not leave, ever. Cure everyone of everything including the amputees this time. That should be a trivial trick for this god.</p>
<p>A guest appearance would be nice. Screw the ephemeral stuff. Take a walk down every street and talk to everyone at the same time and do not leave, ever. Cure everyone of everything including the amputees this time. That should be a trivial trick for this god.</p> Well, if I could see, hear, s…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-05-15:1982180:Comment:13110682013-05-15T23:48:33.530ZDale Headleyhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/DaleHeadley
<p>Well, if I could see, hear, smell, taste, or feel God, which has yet to occur in my 77 years, I would be tempted to believe, but not before I had myself examined for signs of Alzheimer's.</p>
<p>Well, if I could see, hear, smell, taste, or feel God, which has yet to occur in my 77 years, I would be tempted to believe, but not before I had myself examined for signs of Alzheimer's.</p> Well if I heard "god's voice"…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-05-15:1982180:Comment:13105702013-05-15T06:53:44.911ZClayton Hhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/ClaytonH
<p>Well if I heard "god's voice" in my head I would probably go to a psychiatric ward. If a holy book predicted something happening thousands of years down the road and it was completely specific then I would probably believe (none of this "in those days good will be evil and evil will be good,") okay well that happens all the time. For example in the 1800s it was considered good to make women wear dresses all the time, however now it would be against human rights. If god took an observed…</p>
<p>Well if I heard "god's voice" in my head I would probably go to a psychiatric ward. If a holy book predicted something happening thousands of years down the road and it was completely specific then I would probably believe (none of this "in those days good will be evil and evil will be good,") okay well that happens all the time. For example in the 1800s it was considered good to make women wear dresses all the time, however now it would be against human rights. If god took an observed galaxy and rearranged the stars I would believe him. But I think if he came riding down from heaven on a cloud and was like "hey yo I am real" then I would believe.</p>