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You get more excited by a speed gun number than by the ball that was bowled?

Originally Posted by Athlai

Jeets doesn't really deserve to be bowling.

Originally Posted by Dan

in the future where we're all social justice-y Cribb can ride down the street to pick up some raw milk from Coles on a motorised esky while smoking meth, firing an RPG into the air, and carrying the case of British-import Stella he's polygamously (and privately) married alongside a genderfluid Zambian businessperson and a coke-snorting 18-year-old cyborg girl.

It was interesting and I think he was one of the bowlers who always looked faster than he was because he was so accurate and gave you so little to work with. When speed guns came out, I remember batsmen commentating that they were surprised that his speed wasn't as high as some of the other bowlers.

If every delivery you get is very hard to negotiate, and you get it at an awkward line/length, sometimes it can 'appear' as more or less fast because you're simply having trouble with it. By the same token, the ball that broke 100mph (Akhtar) was a pretty ordinary delivery and I bet the batsman on strike woudn't have pinpointed it as the fastest delivery he has ever faced.

Plus, if you get hit at the right spot..you'll break ribs and heads whether the delivery is at 130kph or 150kph....

I wonder if you'd be able to differentiate if you got hit at 130kph vs 150kph (of course you'd have less time to react at 150kph but I mean in terms of pain).

Anyway to answer your question, my guess is he might have been averaging near 140kph at one point but I really doubt he averaged too far above that at any point (obviously a couple deliveries here and there could be faster).

Last edited by silentstriker; 25-01-2012 at 02:33 PM.

Originally Posted by KungFu_Kallis

Peter Siddle top scores in both innings....... Matthew Wade gets out twice in one ball

Plus as the fastest bowler competition back in the 70s showed, people tend to overestimate a lot of bowlers. Being fast certainly helps but not nearly as much as some people think it does. I'm sure there's some 'minimum' pace you need, but I doubt that's higher than 125kph or so - after that it's about how you bowl. Because holding didn't bowl at 150kph doesn't make him any less of a bowler, or say anything about him not being effective if he were bowling today. An action that beautiful will always work .

Of course bowling super fast and super accurate is ideal but IMO an increase in accuracy/skill will give you much more dividends after that minimum mark than an increase in speed will.

It was interesting and I think he was one of the bowlers who always looked faster than he was because he was so accurate and gave you so little to work with. When speed guns came out, I remember batsmen commentating that they were surprised that his speed wasn't as high as some of the other bowlers.

If every delivery you get is very hard to negotiate, and you get it at an awkward line/length, sometimes it can 'appear' as more or less fast because you're simply having trouble with it. By the same token, the ball that broke 100mph (Akhtar) was a pretty ordinary delivery and I bet the batsman on strike woudn't have pinpointed it as the fastest delivery he has ever faced.

Plus, if you get hit at the right spot..you'll break ribs and heads whether the delivery is at 130kph or 150kph....

I wonder if you'd be able to differentiate if you got hit at 130kph vs 150kph (of course you'd have less time to react at 150kph but I mean in terms of pain).

Anyway to answer your question, my guess is he might have been averaging near 140kph at one point but I really doubt he averaged too far above that at any point (obviously a couple deliveries here and there could be faster).

Ishant Sharma is a fine example. When he bowled that great spell to Ponting at Perth, he was mostly around 135-137 kph mark, but his line and length was superb and made Ponting look like an amateur.

4 years down, he bowls consistently 90+ mph now but his length is bad. As a result, Ponting is EASILY hitting him for fours.

It was interesting and I think he was one of the bowlers who always looked faster than he was because he was so accurate and gave you so little to work with. When speed guns came out, I remember batsmen commentating that they were surprised that his speed wasn't as high as some of the other bowlers.

If every delivery you get is very hard to negotiate, and you get it at an awkward line/length, sometimes it can 'appear' as more or less fast because you're simply having trouble with it. By the same token, the ball that broke 100mph (Akhtar) was a pretty ordinary delivery and I bet the batsman on strike woudn't have pinpointed it as the fastest delivery he has ever faced.

Plus, if you get hit at the right spot..you'll break ribs and heads whether the delivery is at 130kph or 150kph....

I wonder if you'd be able to differentiate if you got hit at 130kph vs 150kph (of course you'd have less time to react at 150kph but I mean in terms of pain).

Anyway to answer your question, my guess is he might have been averaging near 140kph at one point but I really doubt he averaged too far above that at any point (obviously a couple deliveries here and there could be faster).

Can attest that getting hit in the ribs at 135-140 hurts more than at 115-120

Can attest that getting hit in the ribs at 135-140 hurts more than at 115-120

130-145 = little difference, though. Bones get broken, ****ing hurts.

McG was one of those guys who could bowl really swift (140+) but figured out early that the quicker he bowled, the less bounce he got which meant less wickets. Bowled within himself, started destroying sides, rest = history.

Always found it quite entertaining watching McGrath tear up batting lineups and make the look like amateurs, that was never boring for me. Unless winning world cup after world cup etc is boring for people, *shrugs*....must be Mohammad Sami fans that like the speed and don't care about being hammered on a daily basis and losing.....