I have a lot of german results in google but that's generally not helpful in an English forum.

the sandybridge got a repeated frame about every 41 sec and the ivy dropped frame about every 4 mins.
the issue is "gone" with an haswell mainboard even with on ivy bridge CPU.

no clock perfectly matches the rest of your system clocks so these issue is there for all user.
some have a repeated/drop frame every 10 min other have a repeated/dropped frame every 4 hour + so they are totally save.

I have a lot of german results in google but that's generally not helpful in an English forum.

the sandybridge got a repeated frame about every 41 sec and the ivy dropped frame about every 4 mins.
the issue is "gone" with an haswell mainboard even with on ivy bridge CPU.

no clock perfectly matches the rest of your system clocks so these issue is there for all user.
some have a repeated/drop frame every 10 min other have a repeated/dropped frame every 4 hour + so they are totally save.

for a "fix" see the first part of this post.

Thanks. Yes, I can see the refresh rate of the display is 972 instead of the 976. I installed reclock and now there is a frame repeat every hour or so, but audio seems to be a bit out of sync still. Can it be improved, or should I start looking for some other hardware?

Thanks. Yes, I can see the refresh rate of the display is 972 instead of the 976. I installed reclock and now there is a frame repeat every hour or so, but audio seems to be a bit out of sync still. Can it be improved, or should I start looking for some other hardware?

but there are a lot of reasons async audio. for example it could be the file it self.

I am getting closer. Setting a delay on the sound has solved the sync issue. The green screen in fullscreen disappeared when choosing dxva in lav video, instead of intels quicksync. I'll do some more testing tomorrow, but this solves my major issues. If I then can transfer it to MTB :-)

I am getting closer. Setting a delay on the sound has solved the sync issue. The green screen in fullscreen disappeared when choosing dxva in lav video, instead of intels quicksync. I'll do some more testing tomorrow, but this solves my major issues. If I then can transfer it to MTB :-)

So even a Ivy Bridge also suffers form the issue as the Sandy Bridge?

a different one but yes. and the issue comes from the used board and chipset a IVy bridge with haswell mainboard could have a proper clock with a repeated/dropped frame in 10 min + range. your soundkart can play a rule in this too this topic is not easy.

10Muse just added MPC-HC and Kodi support for their catalog software, that already worked with the Dunes, PCHs and Mede8ers. I've been beta testing it for the last couple of weeks and it works pretty darn well. It's an alternative to having a full MCE type package on the HTPC. It does require an iPad but if you already have one it makes it look real pretty.

Yes, you need the MPC-HC web server to be running for this to work but that is the case with any other remote that works with MPC-HC.

Just got done with my first proper MPC-HC install. I removed all previous codec packs and anything related to my old MPC setup. I also installed LAV (audio/vid/splitter) & madVR. For some reason MPC seems sluggish, its hard to explain. Mouse movement is sluggish, seems to only be when watching on my TV. Is it because madVR converts my TV to 23hz? on my monitor it everything is nice and smooth.

Just got done with my first proper MPC-HC install. I removed all previous codec packs and anything related to my old MPC setup. I also installed LAV (audio/vid/splitter) & madVR. For some reason MPC seems sluggish, its hard to explain. Mouse movement is sluggish, seems to only be when watching on my TV. Is it because madVR converts my TV to 23hz? on my monitor it everything is nice and smooth.

that normal 23 hz are very slow and response time of TV can be terrible high.

Cant tell if these settings are ok or not (I know its 24hz, when set to 23hz my TV only goes to 23.971 not 976)

Does everything look ok?

your Tv has no effect on the refresh rate the 23.971 is just a sign that your 770 has a terrible clock. but even at 23.971 you shouldn't get a repeated or dropped frame every 42 sec like you get now so it should be a lot better.

if you don't have a good reason to use such high cpu queues you shouldn't do this is eats a lot of ram. the default settings for this are totally fine only change these when you get some issue.

couple of questions for the experts:
1. In madVR, in display modes, should I list 720 modes or just 1080 modes? My display supports both and I watch both 720p and 1080p content. Currently I guess my display just upscales the 720p content to 1080p, which works fine. I want the best image quality.
2. I had 1080p50 enabled as a display mode because Windows shows my display supports it, but when I play PAL 25p content, my display attempts to switch to 1080p50 and my screen just goes black, so it doesn't really support it. So I took that setting out and now the 25p content is playing at 60Hz (with Smooth Motion Enabled). For the best image quality, do I need to install ReClock and check the box to play 25p content as 24p? Or is 60Hz with Smooth Motion just as good for image quality on 25p content?

couple of questions for the experts:
1. In madVR, in display modes, should I list 720 modes or just 1080 modes? My display supports both and I watch both 720p and 1080p content. Currently I guess my display just upscales the 720p content to 1080p, which works fine. I want the best image quality.

always use the native resolution of your screen and that is 1080p in this case. scaler in TV are usually very poor compared to madVR.

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2. I had 1080p50 enabled as a display mode because Windows shows my display supports it, but when I play PAL 25p content, my display attempts to switch to 1080p50 and my screen just goes black, so it doesn't really support it. So I took that setting out and now the 25p content is playing at 60Hz (with Smooth Motion Enabled). For the best image quality, do I need to install ReClock and check the box to play 25p content as 24p? Or is 60Hz with Smooth Motion just as good for image quality on 25p content?

usually 25p at 60 HZ with SM is totally fine. some 25p shows/movie where 24 hz before they where but on the disc so using reclock to fix this makes sense but only for these discs but you should now this it is not a good idea to simply apply a slow down so leave it as it is.

always use the native resolution of your screen and that is 1080p in this case. scaler in TV are usually very poor compared to madVR.

usually 25p at 60 HZ with SM is totally fine. some 25p shows/movie where 24 hz before they where but on the disc so using reclock to fix this makes sense but only for these discs but you should now this it is not a good idea to simply apply a slow down so leave it as it is.

1. I'm again testing madVR vs EVR-CP, but as Zacate is pretty weak GPU, max settings I can do without dropped frames is:
a) chroma upscaling - bilinear (DXVA is disabled)
b) image upscaling - bilinear (DXVA resulted in dropped frames)
c) dithering - ordered dithering
I know this are pretty low settings, so I'm guessing EVR-CP uses similar or exactly the same algorithms, so are there any benefits using madVR in terms of picture quality?
I can't see any difference between madVR and EVR-CP with this settings, so only advantage of madVR may be if I want to use 3DLUT which leads to my second question

2. I've calibrated display using AVS HD 709 patterns few years ago. I've tried to find information on madVR argyII thread, but I'm not sure that I understand 3DLUT calibration completely. Are there any benefits of doing 3DLUT if TV was calibrated with HTPC as a source? Would I see any additional benefits with 3DLUT calibration?

1. I'm again testing madVR vs EVR-CP, but as Zacate is pretty weak GPU, max settings I can do without dropped frames is:
a) chroma upscaling - bilinear (DXVA is disabled)
b) image upscaling - bilinear (DXVA resulted in dropped frames)
c) dithering - ordered dithering
I know this are pretty low settings, so I'm guessing EVR-CP uses similar or exactly the same algorithms, so are there any benefits using madVR in terms of picture quality?
I can't see any difference between madVR and EVR-CP with this settings, so only advantage of madVR may be if I want to use 3DLUT which leads to my second question

this is strange even a weak GPU like this should be able to do more than this. did you set the Vram very low ?

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2. I've calibrated display using AVS HD 709 patterns few years ago. I've tried to find information on madVR argyII thread, but I'm not sure that I understand 3DLUT calibration completely. Are there any benefits of doing 3DLUT if TV was calibrated with HTPC as a source? Would I see any additional benefits with 3DLUT calibration?

I have Eye-One Display2 colorimeter.

there should be huge differences. I mean what did your calibration program report after calibration? was it an avg delta E below 0.5?

this is strange even a weak GPU like this should be able to do more than this. did you set the Vram very low ?

Zacate E350 basically has AMD 6310. I've entered BIOS, and it says it shares 384MB (I'm guessing it takes away this from RAM). Setting for shared memory is currently on 'Auto', if I take it to manual, I can max it to 512MB.

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there should be huge differences. I mean what did your calibration program report after calibration? was it an avg delta E below 0.5?

but 3D LUT take some processing power.

I think I have somewhere HCFR reports archived, but not sure where
If avg delta E is below 0.5, there aren't any benefits of using 3DLUT?

Does 3DLUT take CPU or GPU processing power? Cause if I choose madVR, I already think GPU is near limits

Zacate E350 basically has AMD 6310. I've entered BIOS, and it says it shares 384MB (I'm guessing it takes away this from RAM). Setting for shared memory is currently on 'Auto', if I take it to manual, I can max it to 512MB.

try that may help a lot and use GPU buffer of 6.

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I think I have somewhere HCFR reports archived, but not sure where
If avg delta E is below 0.5, there aren't any benefits of using 3DLUT?

Does 3DLUT take CPU or GPU processing power? Cause if I choose madVR, I already think GPU is near limits

Hey guys, I have setup my htpc with mpc and madvr - i have followed the advance guide to achieve top performance from my setup. My HTPC is connected via hdmi and div to two monitors, plus on my onkyo receiver i have dual main outs which is connected to to my projector and back to my htpc. problem is this: when i play a movie there appears to be some juddering and frame drops, its not smooth especially at vertically panning scenes. i cannot figure out why. can you guys suggest something? thanks

I've tried increasing RAM to max 512, but not sure if helped.
Also, for some movies I get dropped frames (presenter queue is near 0), and for some not. All tested movies were 1080p.
Does madVR depends on x264 encoding settings, or bitrate? Because I don't know why some movies are played fine and some are not.

Is image upscaling even used if source resolution is matching display resolution?

I've tried increasing RAM to max 512, but not sure if helped.
Also, for some movies I get dropped frames (presenter queue is near 0), and for some not. All tested movies were 1080p.
Does madVR depends on x264 encoding settings, or bitrate? Because I don't know why some movies are played fine and some are not.

no madVR doesn't care about encoding settings. but madVR cares a lot about FPS.

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Is image upscaling even used if source resolution is matching display resolution?