thanks guys. it was quite the project. I was shocked at what these things will go over. he blazed a trail through the woods like nothing and there was downed tress and branches and fence stakes this flat doesn't care it just goes over it. when we were in the creek in the woods it felt like we were on hard dirt, he said you would sink to your waist if you tried to walk through it. It does need diff locks now though with the added power it will spin a track more frequently, but the lockers are 15,000$ a piece!!!