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Winto 10

Interesting read and confirms my thoughts on it. Of course they're not going to like being pounded away for the whole hour, they're probably seeing more than one client and it'll leave them sore. It's a job to them and in my job I like nice easy friendly customers. I personally really hate it when WG say they've cummed too cause I just assume it's a lie and it ruins the entire experience for me.

The disconnect between what I read and my experience though is a little strange. I don't like sex and just prefer handies/oral. However whenever I seem to say this to a new WG they seem to get really offended and most of them attempt to 'lure' me into having sex even when I don't want to. So this is some weird acting or maybe I'm unknowingly playing reverse psychology which works. But I seriously have no idea why they want to have sex if a client says no. One WG I remember getting particularly annoyed that I didn't want sex. Or maybe it's just that with sex they get to lay back and do "nothing".

But if I had something to say to any of those women I'd just say be honest, if she doesn't like it let me know cause I won't go back.

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AdorableAmy 314

Why? Because they occasionally meet punters who treat them like a blowup doll and want to let off a bit of steam about it on a peer support site?

The thread linked to is nothing to do with what 'the girls' think of punters in any general way, and very clearly (to anyone to has actually read it) a few women having a moan about how they don't really enjoy being banged away at constantly for the entire duration, which is not common (I think I've had two or three bookings like that in nine years) and as the post above shows, not most punters idea of fun either. There is nothing to say they allow this to affect their service at the time, so what earthly difference does it make - I doubt very much the sort of customer who does this gives a flying fuck whether the lady is having a good time or not, and why should he?

Or do people think that everybody should enjoy their work all the time and never, ever have any unpleasant experiences, or at least that nobody should ever be allowed to voice them amongst their peers if and when they do? On the occasions I've had these type of appointments, and one I remember was a two hour one of solid vaginal penetration in one position (which stopped only for me to change the condom and get more lube) with no oral, touching/fingering, kissing or really anything else and it was horrific - I was so sore I had to take the following day off and I wouldn't have seen that punter again for twice my fee. That doesn't mean I would have spoilt his booking by saying anything at the time (although I tried to tactfully suggest a position change since I was losing the feeling in my legs for the last hour), so I really don't understand? Unless of course the (no doubt deliberately) misleading thread title is affecting perception, which of course is exactly what it was intended to do.

If this is what a punter enjoys and the lady isn't refusing to do it, why would he care whether she had a harmless whinge about it afterwards provided he had a good time? Or does everybody here think that we're all raving nymphos who just can't get enough massive hard cock in all holes 24 hours a day, innit (and reading some of the provider posts on here, I daresay that's understandable too).

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Lucy7 2

You have to understand though that from a ladies side that "some" guys will delay cumming on purpose with a lady knowing that she is the type who will not want him to leave until he has exploded his love juice.

I was one of these ladies and it got around that I would go way over time until it happened (PM gossip on forums) I now will not entertain such delaying tactics.

Many a time a guy would get two for the price of one.....

Lucy

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Lara 1

I love sex, I lubricate naturally & I cum really easily & generally more than once. I don't like the "Hokey Cokey" clients, as they get me to the brink of cumming & stop, then resume. Orgasms help me remain lubricated & comfortable.

Most of my clients are wonderful people & very considerate sexual partners.

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Stephanies Secrets 16

A whinge after a difficult day does not make someone bad at their job or mean they should choose another career. Yes, if it was every day, then they may be better off doing something else (I did exactly that with my last 'conventional' job!) But how often do you go home from work in a less than elated mood? I can tell you that, for me at least, it's far less often than in the 9-5 world!

Edited May 6, 2012 by Stephanies Secrets

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Gemma Harris 12

I can relate to what some are saying there, I HAVE to enjoy this job to be able to do it, I had my share of taking anyone on and repeat bookings I did not enjoy because I thought that was what I had to do, now a days there is no way on hell I will work that way, I want to be able to enjoy this job as much as the person I am with and am not interested in meeting guys that are out to get as much 'bang for their buck' as possible.

I understand it is A LOT of money and I am not trying to be work shy, I have had it in the past also where someone has literally made me bleed with the constant rubbing and had to take considerable time off to recuperate. I am not interested in meeting men that see me as a masturbation aid and I make that clear.

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Winto 10

Or do people think that everybody should enjoy their work all the time and never, ever have any unpleasant experiences, or at least that nobody should ever be allowed to voice them amongst their peers if and when they do? On the occasions I've had these type of appointments, and one I remember was a two hour one of solid vaginal penetration in one position (which stopped only for me to change the condom and get more lube) with no oral, touching/fingering, kissing or really anything else and it was horrific - I was so sore I had to take the following day off and I wouldn't have seen that punter again for twice my fee. That doesn't mean I would have spoilt his booking by saying anything at the time (although I tried to tactfully suggest a position change since I was losing the feeling in my legs for the last hour), so I really don't understand? Unless of course the (no doubt deliberately) misleading thread title is affecting perception, which of course is exactly what it was intended to do.

This sounds awful. You have to tell them. Just because someone pays you for two hours doesn't mean they get to use you for two hours. I feel the same about 'regular' employment. Otherwise this really is like wage-slavery IMHO i.e. you pay for 2 hours of her time so you get to do what you want with her.

I think threads like that probably destroy the illusion that WGs enjoy their work all the time. It is a job, they are doing it to get paid Just like with regular jobs you will have some great customers and you will have some dicks. The difference is that the crappy customers people experience in non WG life won't leave them sore. You can say they should find another job but the majority of customers aren't like that so they should just avoid people like that.

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smiths 215

A whinge after a difficult day does not make someone bad at their job or mean they should choose another career. Yes, if it was every day, then they may be better off doing something else (I did exactly that with my last 'conventional' job!) But how often do you go home from work in a less than elated mood? I can tell you that, for me at least, it's far less often than in the 9-5 world!

I agree, its what some WGs think, its not definitely representative of the whole. WGs just like punters are entitled to hold and post whatever opinions they wish, when they post they are posting their own opinions not those of everyone else. Personally i treat everyone as a seperate individual human being with their own unique opinions, i only praise or condemn them when i have enough to go on to make a decision either way, although that sometimes involves believing another posters unproven opinions as thats how forums work.

From reading punting forums what has struck me is how many punters seem amazed or disappointed that being a WG is primarily a job to make money doing rather than something that is primarily to get as much sex as possible and be a nymphomaniac. Get real is my advice to such punters, its a job which can also be enjoyable obviously dependent on the individual WG.

As to the broader question of what WGs really think of punters, i dont really care, all i require is good service given with a good friendly, enthusiastic and warm attitude, if they really hate and/or detest me thats their business, i am after all not after love or a relationship.

Edited May 6, 2012 by smiths

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Winto 10

As to the broader question of what WGs really think of punters, i dont really care, all i require is good service given with a good friendly, enthusiastic and warm attitude, if they really hate and/or detest me thats their business, i am after all not after love or a relationship.

I can understand this but I'd rather that they are honest. I would prefer that I'm not with a WG that hates me as there are plenty out there that won't and I can book some time with them! But I can also understand it from the WG's POV. They may hate you, but they are getting money which is what they need to survive. So if they are honest they will restrict their income which isn't in there interests.

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Curious Rose 50

From reading punting forums what has struck me is how many punters seem amazed or disappointed that being a WG is primarily a job to make money doing rather than something that is primarily to get as much sex as possible and be a nymphomaniac. Get real is my advice to such punters, its a job which can also be enjoyable obviously dependent on the individual WG.

I'd second this. The thing about being a woman is that (generally) you can have as much sex as you like because most men are not getting as much as they would like, and the deficit leaves women in a position of power. If you're a nymphomaniac woman, you can very easily find sexual partners over the internet or in the real world.

Escorting is a job, and like any job, some people are cut out to enjoy it and some are not. If you've got the right attitude and your head screwed on, you will generally have a good time during an appointment with a typical client (and sometimes this is a sexual good time and sometimes it's a 'spending a few hours in the company of a really nice and interesting man and enjoying his enjoyment' good time). Often it's both, sometimes it's neither (personally I don't see a client again if I really didn't get anything out of the meeting, but I do get enjoyment on some level out of most appointments.)

I think it's unfair to link to saafe as an example of 'what girls really think'. It's a safe space in which WGs can support one another and stay happy and healthy in their working practices, and having some place to moan is a pretty important part of that. They're also discussing a very specific kind of client who, through ignorance or malice, causes physical and mental distress, and you shouldn't take that as a general opinion on punters or the job.

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Hero 433

I'd second this. The thing about being a woman is that (generally) you can have as much sex as you like because most men are not getting as much as they would like, and the deficit leaves women in a position of power. If you're a nymphomaniac woman, you can very easily find sexual partners over the internet or in the real world.

Escorting is a job, and like any job, some people are cut out to enjoy it and some are not. If you've got the right attitude and your head screwed on, you will generally have a good time during an appointment with a typical client (and sometimes this is a sexual good time and sometimes it's a 'spending a few hours in the company of a really nice and interesting man and enjoying his enjoyment' good time). Often it's both, sometimes it's neither (personally I don't see a client again if I really didn't get anything out of the meeting, but I do get enjoyment on some level out of most appointments.)

I think it's unfair to link to saafe as an example of 'what girls really think'. It's a safe space in which WGs can support one another and stay happy and healthy in their working practices, and having some place to moan is a pretty important part of that. They're also discussing a very specific kind of client who, through ignorance or malice, causes physical and mental distress, and you shouldn't take that as a general opinion on punters or the job.

I hear you...

but I'd just like to add that you should enjoy your job a little or there is no point whatsoever in carrying on....I'm not saying peeps have to wake up and think YIPPEE and start doing cartwheels down the road but a certain amount of interest, enjoyment, pride and professionalism should be the order of the day....or peeps could always find an alternative path whereby the above applies...

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AdorableAmy 314

but I'd just like to add that you should enjoy your job a little or there is no point whatsoever in carrying on....I'm not saying peeps have to wake up and think YIPPEE and start doing cartwheels down the road but a certain amount of interest, enjoyment, pride and professionalism should be the order of the day....or peeps could always find an alternative path whereby the above applies...

The people who don't enjoy their time in sex work ever, at all, tend not to last long at it, with a few notable exceptions (and to answer another post above, the chances of running into a WG who 'hates' you are infinitessimal, since such a strong feeling requires far more thought and effort that most people would spend on somebody they didn't know who hadn't done anything to offend them) and these exceptions are just as entitled to earn a living in whatever way they choose as anyone else. The number I've met who 'hate' punters I can count on one hand, and they tend to hate men generally anyway.

Virtually nobody I know with a civvy job enjoys their work, and I have never, ever had a civvy job I liked - to say there's 'no point' carrying on is just plain ridiculous; maybe some folk are in the privileged position of being able to pick and choose how they earn a crust, but I certainly don't know any. Is feeding and supporting oneself and ones family and paying the bills 'pointless'? Does everybody else here just do their jobs out of altruism? Provided the service offered is good and the punter gets value for money, the individual WG's views towards them and the job she has chosen is nobody's business but her own - the client is paying for sex, not for the right to manipulate or even know another person's private feelings.

Bearing in mind the actual topic of the thread is (as the lovely Rose has said) a particular, specific type of encounter that I'd wager most of us would find pretty unpleasant, what exactly do you think this woman has done wrong bar maybe burst a few bubbles?

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lancelot 714

I think in particular WGs should enjoy their job. It's not going to affect my trip to waitrose if the cashier hates sitting pressing and scanning for 4 hours at a time. The best punts are where the girl enjoys it - we all know that. Anything else is no good.

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Hero 433

Virtually nobody I know with a civvy job enjoys their work, and I have ever had a civvy job I liked

That is both susprising and unfotunate as the feedback I get from peeps is to some extent the complete opposite (that they do enjoy their jobs/career paths)...

Bearing in mind the actual topic of the thread is (as the lovely Rose has said) a particular, specific type of encounter that I'd wager most of us would find pretty unpleasant, what exactly do you think this woman has done wrong bar maybe burst a few bubbles?

You are quite right, maybe we are looking at it far to closely then perhaps we should, but something is not quite right with the posts or it could just be me lol

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AdorableAmy 314

I say let the ladies vent their frustrations to each other about some of the difficult parts of the job they have to deal with and just try and be as pleasant a punter as you can be.

Most of the girls I've met have acted professionally, met me with a smile and given of themselves in quite remarkable ways for which I've been thankful.

Indeed - many of the people posting work independently and alone, and have no one in real life who even know they're a prostitute - if the people around me didn't know I would go mental and all manner of factors (including the increasing fear of police action, especially in places like Glasgow for example) puts many off sharing with a friend they could rely on for support. Online communities are one way they can do precisely that without (hopefully) taking it out on nice punters. Happy, non-stressed ladies generally equal better punts.

I think in particular WGs should enjoy their job. It's not going to affect my trip to waitrose if the cashier hates sitting pressing and scanning for 4 hours at a time. The best punts are where the girl enjoys it - we all know that. Anything else is no good.

If a WG is good at her job you will never know whether she's genuinely enjoying it or not. The ability of some women to flick it on and off like a switch (in one case I remember less than an hour after receiving some bad news that would have laid me low for a week) never ceases to amaze me; I know I can't do it at all. And bearing in mind she's likely to be getting paid roughly twenty times an hour what the cashier at Waitrose is without having to sit and scan groceries for interminable hours listening to a load of entitled crap from whinging bastards about how they can't find any potato croquettes or their coupon went through the washing machine but they should still get the money off, believe me you don't need to care one way or the other.

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Indeed - many of the people posting work independently and alone, and have no one in real life who even know they're a prostitute - if the people around me didn't know I would go mental and all manner of factors (including the increasing fear of police action, especially in places like Glasgow for example) puts many off sharing with a friend they could rely on for support. Online communities are one way they can do precisely that without (hopefully) taking it out on nice punters. Happy, non-stressed ladies generally equal better punts.

If a WG is good at her job you will never know whether she's genuinely enjoying it or not. The ability of some women to flick it on and off like a switch (in one case I remember less than an hour after receiving some bad news that would have laid me low for a week) never ceases to amaze me; I know I can't do it at all. And bearing in mind she's likely to be getting paid roughly twenty times an hour what the cashier at Waitrose is without having to sit and scan groceries for interminable hours listening to a load of entitled crap from whinging bastards about how they can't find any potato croquettes or their coupon went through the washing machine but they should still get the money off, believe me you don't need to care one way or the other.

Having someone to talk to in real life, who knows what you do makes a massive difference in my opinion and I know many girls aren't able to do so. I've read the thread several times, and without knowing the poster behind it personally haven't been able to put the OP into context and come to any definite conclusion about it. I don't think it's been the most tactful OP ever made however it's got people talking - no bad thing.

I do know the positives have to massively outweigh the negatives in this line of occupation, certainly for myself anyway.

A good WG creates a scenario of enjoyment for the client, if she gains pleasure from that either sexually or purely because the guy walks away happy himself, without having caused herself any distress or harm, providing the services she is happy with in the process and she's been paid then everything is ok.

We are all human and have normal up and down moments, maintaining the correct balance is more important than continually dancing the joys of spring. If everything were fantastic all the time, you'd not actually notice!

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AdorableAmy 314

That is both susprising and unfotunate as the feedback I get from peeps is to some extent the complete opposite (that they do enjoy their jobs/career paths)...

Well I can't claim to have done every single job in the world, but between cleaning, bar and door work, various retail, factory work, working on the fish market and promotions stuff (badgering people in the street in the freezing cold, mostly) prostitution is a far more attractive option. Most of my friends work in hotels, shops, restaurants/takeaways and the like as the majority of available work where I live is unskilled, part time and minimum wage - many also work in local factories which is far better paid, but having done three years on continental shifts myself (which has been proven to reduce life expectancy and is like having permanent jet lag) it's not exactly the stuff dreams are made of either.

Prostitution and the accompanying self-employment is by far the best decision I ever made, but I started a good while back and consider myself extremely fortunate not to be trying to build up a business now. The huge increase in women entering the industry means less work to go around, especially for the newbies that SAAFE is mostly made up of. Unfortunately this leads to some feeling they have to see punters whom they would have turned away in a heartbeat five years ago, and things like this (coupled with the realisation for some that whoring is not actually a license to sit on your arse and watch the £20 notes rain down out of the sky) can certainly lead to more grumbly stuff. If it doesn't affect the service provided, the servicee has no reason to even think about it.