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Black Cleaver pt. 2

Sorry about being a downer, but I do like the Black Cleaver stacking with Youmu's Ghostblade because I actually like the two weapons and they work well together. It's almost like saying that Infinity Edge does not stack in damage with The Bloodthirster. It would just feel wrong.

Iunno, lets see, looks to me like it has everything every single AD carry, support, bruiser, tank, etc ever needed in 1 item. You gave them HP AND Cool down on top of all the other offensive stats? Are you insane?

The real reason everyone is stacking it is because it out performs all the other items. Why bother going for other CD items when you can just blow ur money on this baby and rip apart the other team. Forget buying frozen mallet on Darius/Garen, just buy 2 of these puppies and u win. Hell, even rushing 1 of them with level 1 boots wins at life.

Dismantle the item entirely, rebuild it. Nerfing the armour pen alone isn't going to shy people away from this item. Take off the CD reduction, keep the HP. Ghostblade is the CD + Armour Pen item, keep that. What AD carries + Bruisers needed was an item that let them do dmg as well as let them survive. This item goes waaaaaaaay beyond that.

TLDR: Nerf the flat armour pen, keep the on hit effect. Take off the CD reduction, keep the HP, maybe tone down the dmg slightly, add something else in the CD's place like armour, magic resis, tenacity.

Hotfixes are usually reserved for game-breaking bugs, not balance issues.

The BC nerfs will be in the next patch, which is coming soon.

So please do me a favor, eat your words and explain why LeBlanc was hotfixed nerfed on her release? Black Cleaver, in its current state, is far worse than LeBlanc was on release, because it spreads onto multiple champs instead of just one.

So please do me a favor, eat your words and explain why LeBlanc was hotfixed nerfed on her release? Black Cleaver, in its current state, is far worse than LeBlanc was on release, because it spreads onto multiple champs instead of just one.

I think the best fix would be to make the passive not stack at all with multiple BCs, and change it from % armor pen to flat armor pen. No item should have both. Especially on champions like Wukong, Darius, Xin Zhao, etc that already have percentage armor pen, even tanks are taking very close to true damage. I've built 3 armor items and still taken 1200 damage from Wukong's ult. It's also insane that it stacks additively with Last Whisper, because "ignoring" armor and "reducing armor" by a percentage are treated differently.

If you're effective while building 3-4 of one item under any circumstances, that item is broken. End of story.