Part Four – Three Bizarre Events

Part Four: Three Bizarre Events We All Scratched Our Heads At

Republicans had just won a landslide in the 2010 midterms but in December Congressional Republicans were giving away everything including the kitchen sink. The previous year’s Christmas crisis was Obamacare; Christmas of 2010 was filled with the DREAM Act, repealing Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, the START Treaty (giving up our missile defense system, Putin told us after it was passed), and the fiscal emergency caused by Congress failing to pass a budget – again.

But shortly after that there were some bizarre events that had us all scratching our heads. These events make sense when a person realizes that the HDOH has altered at least 4 Aug 1961 BC#’s and the only lawful reason for them to give ANYBODY a BC# they didn’t have originally is when law enforcement says a new BC is necessary to protect the life of the person named on the certificate. In order to give Obama the BC# for Stig Waidelich the HDOH needed to have law enforcement claim that Obama’s life was in danger if he didn’t get a new BC. Remember that, as I set the stage for the 3 bizarre events.

Neil Abercrombie had resigned from the US Congress to run for governor of HI. He won that race and took office on Dec 6, 2010. (1) On Dec 18th he appointed Neal Palafox as HDOH Director. (2) Five days later, on Dec. 23, he gave an interview with The New York Times (3) Sometime that same week he gave an interview to the LA Times (4), and CNN also ran an article (5). All of those articles focused on Abercrombie’s determination to find a way to release Obama’s long-form birth certificate. The NY Times article said this:

But on the matter of the birthers, Mr. Abercrombie grew serious. “I’m going to take care of that,” he said, though he acknowledged that they would be difficult to convince…. And he is angry about legislation in several states that would require presidential candidates to document that they were born in this country…”…My thought is, rather than get into some kind of argument or play into that mentality, why not just simply try to authenticate this and let the facts speak for themselves?”

Arizona had abandoned an eligibility measure, to focus on their immigration bill. But Judy Burges, the author of the measure, had promised to raise it again in the next session. In spite of media demonization of the “extremist” and “racist” Tea Party and legislature of Arizona, the 2010 midterms had given the Republicans there a majority in both legislative chambers.

So far nothing out of the usual here.

On Jan 8th Jared Loughner went on a shooting spree that injured newly-reelected US Rep Gabby Giffords and killed Judge John Roll, the federal judge of impeccable integrity who would have heard a DOJ lawsuit if an eligibility bill was signed into law. The Department of Homeland Security and Sheriff Clarence Dupnik immediately blamed Sarah Palin and “the Tea Party”, even though the evidence suggested that if Loughner had any political leanings, they were to the left. More than anything, he looked to be schizophrenic, although he and one of the men shot were both familiar with mind control techniques.

The media , some politicians including Obama, and Sheriff Clarence Dupnik immediately demonized the “violent rhetoric” of the Tea Party. (6, 7)The “townhall meetings” which had energized the pre-midterm pushback against Obamacare were determined to be too “dangerous” because of the “violent Tea Party”. Especially the “violent” Tea Party in Arizona where the legislature had passed a “racist” immigration bill and nearly passed a “kooky, extremist birther bill”. Sheriff Clarence Dupnik was convinced that “extreme” people like “birthers” are dangerous, and would commit violence against elected leaders.

So during that first month after Abercrombie began to pave the way for the release of Obama’s birth certificate, the media was insisting (and the law enforcement person at the middle of the Arizona shooting was concluding) that “birthers” like the Arizona Tea Partiers are violent, and elected leaders need to be protected from them…. The stage was set for law enforcement to request a new birth certificate for Obama, which would say whatever Dupnik, or Eric Holder, or Janet Napolitano said it had to say.

And then it happened – the first of the 3 bizarre events: A Star-Advertiser columnist asked Abercrombie how his search for Obama’s birth certificate was going, and on Jan 18th published Abercrombie’s response:

“I got a letter from someone the other day who was genuinely concerned about it; it is not all just political agenda. They were talking on Olelo last night about this; it has a political implication for 2012 that we simply cannot have.” (Abercrombie said there is a recording of the birth in the State Archives and he wants to use that.) “It was actually written I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down …” (8)

World Net Daily reported on this bizarre statement. (9) Why would Abercrombie and AG Louie need an investigation to find a birth certificate that was at the HDOH where it belonged? Why would he have to look in the State Archives, which doesn’t store birth certificates? Why would he say it was “actually written…. Written down”? The next day The NY Daily News also reported (10) and the day after that Drudge Report linked to it. (11)

This led to the 2nd bizarre event: On Thursday, January 20th,Hollywood news reporter Mike Evans mentioned on 3 different radio shows that he had spoken to his decades-long friend Neil Abercrombie the day before and Abercrombie had told him there is no birth certificate for Obama in Hawaii. Evans recounted the conversation, including Abercrombie saying the first time he remembered seeing Obama in Hawaii was at T-ball age. (See Exhibits A and B for transcripts).

The next day (Fri, Jan 21) Abercrombie’s office said he was abandoning the attempt to disclose Obama’s BC because of Obama’s “privacy rights”. And HDOH Communications Director Janice Okubo reminded everyone that Obama’s name is in the birth index (12)– which we now know had been altered to include non-valid records. (13) So it seems like they were trying to put the genie back in the bottle and rely on the falsified birth index as the only evidence of Obama’s birth certificate.

(What Abercrombie told Evans indicates that there was not a hospital birth certificate for Obama at that point. Abercrombie told Evans there was no evidence of a Hawaii birth – and that was after going to the hospitals with a search warrant, which would have allowed him to see the 1961 labor room log that is in Kapiolani Hospital’s archives (14). If the HDOH confirmation of a late-2006 amendment for Obama’s birth certificate (15) or the OIP’s confirmation of supporting affidavits for Obama’s birth record (16) are accurate, then he had SOMETHING at the HDOH but not a hospital birth certificate.)

But the genie wouldn’t go back in the bottle. On Jan. 24th the story hit the internet (17), and by Jan 27 it made it onto Drudge Report (18)

On Jan 26two things happened to try to deal with the fallout, the latter of which is the 3rd bizarre event: Mike Evans retracted what he had said – instead claiming that he had never even talked to Abercrombie (19) – and Neil Abercrombie asked his HDOH Director, Neal Palafox, to resign (20), with Loretta Fuddy becoming acting Director in his place. (21)

The timing of Palafox’s firing is suspicious, but how it came out is even worse. When Palafox resigned, Abercrombie denied that he had asked Palafox to resign and Communications Director Okubo claimed that Palafox had resigned for personal reasons . The article announcing Palafox’s resignation cited anonymous sources claiming that AG David Louie was investigating Palafox for patient billing fraud – a claim that Louie would not deny even though he had not made any of the required notifications if he was investigating. (22). It’s like he wanted the threat to hang over Palafox, who first heard of those rumors on TV when his resignation was announced – making it look like he had resigned because he was in trouble with the law. Three days after the denials, Abercrombie’s office admitted that they had asked Palafox to resign, after Palafox publicly stated he had no idea why he had resigned.

What it really looks like is Abercrombie fired Palafox and to keep Palafox quiet AG Louie said, “This is a real nice medical practice ya got here. It’d be a shame if somebody framed you for fraud…” But Palafox fought back and forced them to publicly admit they had forced him to resign for reasons other than wrong-doing– though nobody would say why. It seems to me that Palafox could afford to fight back if he had something to hold over the heads of Abercrombie and Louie, and was willing to let them know it.

And that’s why I think they fired him: he wasn’t willing to play their game. He was the snag. They had the request from law enforcement to create a new BC for Obama to protect him from those “violent Arizona birthers”, the stage had been set for it to be released…. And Palafox wouldn’t go along with it. That’s why Abercrombie was caught off-guard by the Star-Advertiser columnist’s question in bizarre event #1; his own HDOH Director stood in the way of the plan so it was in limbo at the time of the question. That’s why Abercrombie hadn’t found a birth certificate by the time Mike Evans called him. And once they saw Jack Cashill, Peter Boyles, etc bring attention to the first 2 bizarre stories, they knew they were going to eventually have to show a BC, and to do that they had to get rid of the person standing in the way. In a single day they “convinced” Mike Evans to change his story and Neal Palafox to resign. But Palafox quietly let the world know there was something rotten in Hawaii… (sort of like a red flag…)

Why wouldn’t he go along with it, when the law allows a new BC to be created at the request of law enforcement? Because the statute says that is only allowable for somebody who was born in Hawaii and has a birth certificate on file. (23) Obama had some kind of birth record on file – something “actually written down” and some kind of supporting evidence that was used to amend his record in late 2006. But the amendment itself rendered the BC non-valid. An altered and/or late BC (filed a year or more after the birth) has no probative value (legal evidentiary value) on its own. Its probative value has to be determined by a judicial or administrative official or body when it is presented as evidence, according to HRS 338-17 (24) Other BC’s are declared by statutes to be prima facie evidence; their claims are legally presumed to be true unless there is evidence to contest their truth. If Obama’s BC had not been late and/or altered, it would have been valid/prima facie evidence and Palafox would have to legally presume that Obama was born in Hawaii as claimed – and a new BC could have been created for him at the request of law enforcement. But with no probative evidence of a Hawaii birth, Palafox could not lawfully approve the creation of a new birth certificate for Obama. The same reality that kept Onaka from being able to verify any of Obama’s birth facts kept Palafox from being able to create a new BC for Obama.

His resistance prompted all 3 of the bizarre events that caused us to shake our heads, and ultimately got the attention of Donald Trump who brought the issue into the limelight.

In the next part we’ll look at how Loretta Fuddy illegally executed the plan and sought to keep anybody from finding out what was done – and how registrar Alvin Onaka fought back.

Summary: Three events are bizarre unless you realize what was going on:

Abercrombie claimed an investigation of Obama’s birth record found something actually written down in the State Archives.

Mike Evans claimed Abercrombie told him he had gone to the hospitals with a search warrant, and there is no birth certificate or other evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii.

When the story of Evans’ claims went viral Abercrombie and AG Louie forced HDOH Director Palafox to resign and lied about it while anonymously threatening to investigate him for medical billing fraud. Three days later Palafox forced them to tell the truth about firing him by saying he didn’t know why he resigned.

I believe Palafox was the snag in the plan to create a new BC for Obama based on law enforcement saying it was necessary to protect Obama from those “crazy Arizona birthers”. Palafox wouldn’t create a new BC for Obama because the only record they had for Obama was non-valid and couldn’t legally be presumed as true, and the law only allows a new BC to be created for someone who was born in Hawaii. So Gov. Abercrombie and AG Louie got rid of Palafox and replaced him with Loretta Fuddy who (as we will see) proceeded to execute the plan – including (among other things) the unlawful shuffling of 4 August 1961 BC#’s in order to land Obama with a BC that claimed a Kapiolani Hospital birth and had the BC# that had been used on the forgery to sanitize Obama’s passport file 3 years earlier: Stig Waidelich’s.

Mike Evans: This is a uh, not a Hollywood nugget but is is so important I had to bring it to the table. Former United States Congressman from Hawaii, Neil Abercrombie, has been a friend of mine for decades. When I spent time with Neil during the Obama inauguration in Washington, DC, uh, Neil told me that he was gonna run for governor of Hawaii. Neil also told me that when he was in college in Hawaii he was a friend of Obama’s dad. And he remembered Barach – he called him Barry – when he was a kid. He’s actually a very good friend of the President. Neil promised that when he became governor he was gonna cut through all the red tape and gonna get Obama’s birth certificate and once and for all end this stupid controversy.

Announcer: Uh-huh.

Evans: Ye, Yesterday I talked to Neil. Said that he searched everywhere using all of his power as governor, looking at Kapiolani Women and Children’s Hospital and Queens Medical Center, where children were born back in that day. And he said, “Mike, there is no Barack Obama cer, birth certificate.”

Announcer: He’s a foreigner! We knew it from the start!

Announcer #2: Well, I thought, I thought the holder of the certificate said it was locked up and she had seen it.

Evans: Well, the governor w, demanded to see it, went to the hospital, sent all of his people, a search warrant, and he could not get it. Uh, there, he’s really good friends to the President but he says, he thinks this could cause some problems during re-election

Announcer: W

Announcer 2: (inaudible)

Announcer: Yeah, that’s why he launched the search. He believes it will harm his re-election effort.

Evans: Yeah. Well, I, but he’s a friend of Barack

Announcer: I know.

Announcer 2: Yes.

Announcer: Hey I think in his h, heart and mind he said, “I’m gonna get this, bring this to a close. We’re gonna…”

Evans: Well, that’s

Announcer: “….fix this.”

Evans: And that’s exactly true, I mean

Announcer: Yeah.

Evans: I man, I’ve known Neil for long (chuckles) long time and he

Announcer: What’s

Evans: really, he’s a left-wing nut. I mean, I love him, but uh, yeah, he was, he was, you’re exactly right. He was hoping this would get rid of this problem and that he would prove that he was born in the United States. Unfortunately it backfired on him.

Mike Evans: I have a personal interest so I thought I’d share it with you. Former U.S. Congressman from Hawaii Neal Abercrombie has been a friend of mine for decades. In fact, when I first met Neal he was driving a cab in Honolulu. Well, Neal and I spent a lot of time together in Washington, D.C. during Obama’s inauguration. Neal told me then that he was gonna run for governor of Hawaii, that he had…, that, that he’d had enough of being a U.S. Congressman. He also told me that…stories … he had told me many times after Barack became famous, that he was in college going to the University of Hawaii, he was a friend of Barack Obama’s dad and that he remembers Barack Obama as a little kid. He used to call him “Barry.” In fact, I did a TV interview with, uh, Abercrombie at CSPAN the day after the inauguration and we had to … we had to stop twice because he referred to the President as Barry which he … after he did he said, “I can’t do that, I gotta call him Mr. President.”

Well, when Neal promised me that when he became governor, he was going to cut through all the red tape, he was going to get Obama’s birth certificate once-and-for-all and end this stupid controvery, th.. that he was not born in the United States.

“Yesterday talking in Neal’s office, Neal says that he searched everywhere using his power as governor at the Kapiolani Women’s and Children’s Hospital and Queen’s Hospital, the only place that kids were born in Hawaii back when Barack was born, … there is no Barack Obama birth certificate in Hawaii.

Second Speaker: Really?

Mike Evans: Absolutely no proof, at all, that he was born in Hawaii.

Third Speaker: Wow!

Mike Evans: Now he went out, he LOVES Obama. I mean he purposely did this to get rid of that, that question. Now, got some egg in the face. I mean now he admits publically that there is no birth certificate.

Second Speaker: Well,… there might be an addendum to that. There is the story there is a birth announcement. But it’s been explained. His grandparents could called the newspaper and said, ‘Hey! He, we kn…, our grandchild was born. And ah… he didn’t have to be born in Hawaii for that. So its raising the issue again.”

Mike Evans: Absolutely!

Second Speaker: … after it seemed to be put to bed.

Mike Evans: And I asked him, I go, “Well, when do you remember when do you remember Barack? When’s your first memory?” And he goes, ‘I remember him playing, like, in the T-ball league.’ And I go, “Well, when he was, like, five or six.” And he goes, “Something like that.” And I go, “Well, what about before that?” And he goes, “Well, I don’t really remember him much before that.” which I thought was very odd.

Second Speaker: Really?

Mike Evans: Anyway.

Second Speaker: I have a question for you.

Mike Evans: Yeah?

Second Speaker: According to …ah, ah, … federal law, and I don’t know constitution law, but I assume it would be … ah … why is he allowed to be president of the United States then if he can’t prove he is a U.S. citizen?

Mike Evans: Well that’s … that’s…

Second Speaker: Was he born here? That’s the big question. (?/inaudible) That’s weird.

Mike Evans: And now now Abercrombie is the first to say that he he, that Abercrombie is a Obama lover …

Second Speaker: Right

Mike Evans : … that he’s concerned that … that is really going to be an issue during the election, re-election.

Second Speaker: So it has taken off as a, a big story again, huh?

Mike Evans: Yes.

Second Speaker: Well, well, what’s interesting about it is that this guy attacked people who questioned that he was born in Hawaii just a few weeks ago.

Mike Evans: Neal did.

Second Speaker: Yes.

Mike Evans: Yeah, I mean … I’m tellin’ ya’. Neal and I are buddies and during this whole inauguration when I was in Washington for those a ten days, I spent a lot of time with Neal, and anytime anybody would come up and bring this up, you’re right, Neal was almost militant about it. “I remember him as a kid. He’s from Hawaii, born and raised …” so, needless to say, I’m sure he was shocked more than anybody by this whole thing.

Second Speaker: Don’t you have to produce … papers that say you were

Mike Evans: You’d think so. You’d have to, wouldn’t cha’?

Second Speaker: Well, there’s been a certificate of Live Birth, but that’s being questioned too, because you don’t have to … it’s not the official Birth Certificate.

Mike Evans: There’d have to be one at the hospital, signed by the doctor certifying birth by a … a birth. And there isn’t that.

Second Speaker: You’re kidding me.

Mike Evans: It’s like aaaa… baptism papers. It’s not worth the paper it’s written on, really.Second Speaker: Well, Mike, how hard would it be to find out what doctors were on then.

Mike Evans: Apparently he can’t find any of that … that says that they were there.

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Thank you. At this point, the more people know we have a foreign enemy combatant in our White House, the more likely we are to reach critical mass – where the people who can do something about this will realize it is more dangerous to have Obama in office than it is to force him out.

You might be accused of being cynical, but truthfully, you’re not cynical enough. It’s naive to think that “law enforcement” wanted to protect BO from presumed RightWing nutjobs because that is only the job of the Secret Service, and secondly, they have no standing to request his birth certificate, and thirdly, no birth certificate is going to protect anyone from an assassin.
All of the rest of your connecting of the dots was excellent and insightful, but you need to realize that there was no legitimate reason for Obama to need a copy of his “birth certificate” because he already had one, -the one that he, like every adult in the modern world, had used all of his adult life. The problem was that it didn’t either claim or prove that he was born in Hawaii, and certainly not in a Hawaiian hospital.
He needed the birth certificate long form in order to bamboozle the American public, -and his sycophants in the HDOH and governor’s mansion knew it and wanted to help insure that he didn’t end up like many Democrats who lost their seats in the House in 2010. That would have meant he’d lose reelection, and Obamacare would be repealed. Lordy, Lordy, that would be the end of the world! No lie was too big that it couldn’t be told in order to prevent that. And so it was told, -the whole cock & bull story about Obama asking his lawyer to ask for an “exception” to the rules (another lie) in order to get a long form BC, and then “flying” to Hawaii to pick it up in person for no good reason, with the whole stinking fraud being lied about under the shield of attorney-client privilege.
Mr. Lawyer, did the President really have you go to Hawaii to pick up two real authentic birth certificates certified by the State of Hawaii?
Sorry, that information is protected by attorney-client privilege.

btw; Kudos on an analytical distillation that no one else has put forward at all, much less with such clarity.

I agree with everything you said. There was nothing lawful about what was done, and that will become even more apparent when we look at Fuddy’s actions in the next segment. It is no wonder that Palafox, Onaka, and at least one other worker at the HDOH rebelled and put in these red flags. But people like Deputy AG Jill Nagamine and AG David Louie need to give at least the APPEARANCE of legality.

Heck – just by the APPEARANCE of legality and all the legal BS of all the court cases, the entire legal system has told us that it’s none of we the people’s business if North Korea or Ahmadinejad have a free pass to blow us to oblivion because the foreign enemy combatant, Obama, has promised Russia that he will have the “flexibility” to go golfing while America is blown to bits by the very enemies that Obama and Soros his owner have allied themselves with for decades. “Mutually assured destruction” is no deterrent when the bad guys have their own guy in control of the country they seek to take over. We truly do have a foreign enemy combatant in our White House, and because of it this country’s very survival stands on the tip of a knife. Yet the legal wranglers insist that it is nobody’s business. That is absolutely unacceptable. But it is the game our enemies will play, because they know it is successful. We can have drones that look like butterflies all over the place in our country – even potentially killing whoever Obama puts on a kill list – and we can have little kids, nuns, and disabled people forced to be seen naked before they can fly….. but to allow ANYBODY to take a peek at Obama’s records to insure that we don’t have a foreign enemy combatant in our White House is just WAY TOO intrusive on Obama’s right to privacy! Absurd. But that’s what these people are, and that is what this COUNTRY is.

And they can get away with it because law enforcement is afraid of being accused of being “politicized”. The Police Chief of the Lincoln, Nebraska Police Department AND the Attorney General’s office of Jon Bruning were given proof of Bob Bauer’s election fraud and subornation of perjury, and they WILL DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. The officer with whom I spoke agreed that if you lose the trust of the people because there is no rule of law, you have lost the country. Maybe he was just telling me what I wanted to hear, but when his chief told him he could not pass my report on to the AG’s office he had to know in his heart that America IS lost. In the interest of staying out of what would be called “political”, these people have eviscerated the rule of law.

It’s like a nuke blown to bits within our own system, to destroy it. First the communist-Islamist coup installing Obama had to destroy us from within, and then the communist and Islamist allies can visibly destroy us from the outside. And the people who are supposed to be defending us are held at bay because of the APPEARANCE of legality.

Regarding the birth certificate number, you may be right about *Stig Waidelich’s BC # but *you may want to explain what reason there might be to favor that possibility over the possibility that the number for Virginia Sunahara was used. We know from the refusal to release the long form to her brother that a conspiracy is going on in both the HDOH and the court that refused to over-turn their refusal to provide the brother a copy. It seems they’ve got the facts pretty well guarded, as if they are classified Top Secret (or above, -like UFOs.)

The method of numbering that was stated by Janice Okubo has been proven wrong by the CDC manual in effect when the 1961 BC’s were collected in Hawaii, which described the order that the BC’s were numbered on the microfilms that the CDC received from Hawaii. What Verna Lee said means that if the Nordyke BC#’s are genuine, 10641 has to be the 3rd Honolulu birth after Gretchen Nordyke.

And something else – that will come up in a later installment – is that 10641 was on the supposed “Factcheck photos”, which according to the exif data were actually taken in March of 2008, right before the 3rd breach of Obama’s passport file. For them to use that BC# they had to know that it wasn’t going to be exposed as somebody else’s. They needed a complicit BC# owner. I think it’s pretty clear that neither Clara nor Duncan Sunahara are willing to let Obama steal Virginia’s BC#. By contrast, Stig and Monica Waidelich took part in a stunt by CNN and the HDOH in order to cover for Obama, and Monica Waidelich said that Stig does not have a copy of his long-form BC – which means Stig will never publicly produce a document which shows what his BC# really was in 1961.

I think there are potentially 3 reasons that we’ve seen the HDOH messing with Virginia’s records.

1. The first indication of a problem was when they didn’t have Sunahara’s name in their database. When the forgery was made for Obama’s passport file I don’t believe the HDOH was involved; I believe the Obama people thought they could leave the HDOH out of it and just do a run-of-the-mill forgery, counting on “privacy” to make sure that nobody ever knew what was really in the HDOH record. But then there was the problem of the birth index. The HDOH had to be brought into the story when the public demanded something official. So they had to have some high person at the HDOH alter the 1960-64 birth index, which TO THIS DAY is the only thing the HDOH brings forth as EVIDENCE that Obama’s got anything at the HDOH. That index was not a standard printout of all the valid records with birth dates between 1960 and 1964. It had some birth names for adopted children but didn’t have the birth names for others. It was a fabrication of the printout rather than a reflection of what was in the database. But to keep anybody within the HDOH from knowing the truth and reporting it, they had to have Obama’s name listed as valid in the database. I believe that for that purpose they simply gave him Virginia’s BC# and voided her record. It was a quick, easy fix. And it would have been successful, except that they couldn’t tell all their workers that Sunahara and Obama were connected. A HDOH worker told me that all requests related to Obama were supposed to go through Okubo. But my request for Sunahara’s COLB was not recognized as being about Obama so it went to some honest worker who processed the request as it was SUPPOSED to be processed, and not as Okubo would have processed it. The worker looked in the database, found no record for Virginia, and told me so.

2. The second indication of a problem was when the HDOH changed their “policy” to not allow long-forms to be available to the public. Fuddy illegally did that all on her own, right before Obama’s forgery was released (and I do mean illegally in both the spirit and the letter of the law, as I will explain in another segment). She had to do that because Obama’s forgery was created by using other people’s BC’s. They couldn’t just forge original BC’s for these other people by switching the BC#. They also had to cover up which bits and pieces they used from which other BC, so nobody would be able to show the parts that were identical to these other BC’s. It is very possible that Virginia’s BC was used to piece together the “new” BC for Obama.

3. When they had to release a death certificate for Virginia they were in the thick of trying to disprove that Obama’s BC# was a problem. They had to come up with records from their office that showed BC#’s suggesting that numbers were assigned either randomly or in alphabetical order. They had already tried a computer printout of a BC# (Waidelich’s) and I and others had cried BS on it; too easy to switch a number in the database. So what they had left was either BC#’s on certified copies that were supposedly issued before Obama was known (the Ah Nee forgery) OR BC#’s listed on discloseable documents (Virginia’s death certificate forgery).

Definitely. A whole system doesn’t go to this trouble to cover piddles. If it’s worth this amount of trouble to install Obama, it’s because they have a very, very big reason to want Obama in there specifically – as opposed to somebody like Hillary. Why did it have to be Obama, when Hillary’s policies would have largely been the same?

I believe it is because the communist Soros machine needed the Islamist wing in order to be able to pull off the coup, and they couldn’t get that with Hillary. They COULD get it with a guy who a year after his inauguration privately told the Egyptian ambassador that the Muslim world should be patient with him because he had to get Obamacare passed before he could focus on the Muslim agenda, which he supported because he was and still is a Muslim. Ghadaffi had publicly stated that the Muslim world had contributed to Obama’s campaign, and that Obama needed to stay firm in following his Muslim beliefs rather than use the power for his own personal purposes. Notice that Ghadaffi is dead now, and the people who killed him have also killed our ambassador and at least 3 other Americans in Benghazi without so much as a peep from Obama’s regime. And Ghadaffi’s manpads have gone missing and other weapons are apparently being given to the Al Qaeda-linked insurgents in Syria.

One of the R Presidential primary candidates was overheard by Larry Sellin saying that nobody would touch the eligibility issue because they know it is WAY DEEPER than anybody wants to delve. They know the treachery is deeper than simple politics. They know 2008 was a coup, and they are afraid to find out who was behind the coup. But I think when we look at what Obama has done (as well as look at some of the other evidence) it is clear that the people behind the coup are the communists and Islamists with whom Obama has ALWAYS allied himself, and which Soros has allied himself with since 2001.

And now, as we look at North Korea and Iran, and the very real possibility that they each have 2 “super EMP’s” in orbit, ready to shoot through a hole in our radar defense at any moment (see http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/understanding-north-korea-and-iran?f=must_reads#ixzz2MBnGqAqR ), there is an urgent and real question of whether Obama’s “flexibility” that he promised Medvedev includes the flexibility to let North Korea or Iran complete an EMP attack (or other attack; see the conversation at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3004173/posts ) without any worries of retaliation. Keep in mind: Soros HAS PUBLICLY SAID he owns the democratic party and that his goal, as God (he seriously believes) is to rid the world of both America and capitalism. Soros and his puppet Obama – the foreign enemy combatant who has taken our whole system hostage to “radically transform the US” – are enemies of the US and of capitalism, and with an enemy commanding our military, what defense do we really have against a nuclear-armed North Korea and Iran who may already have EMP’s ready to deliver at a moment’s notice? The person who would have to authorize the closing of our radar hole facing south has used the sequester to gut the military.

We’re talking serious doo-doo here, and the people in Congress need to realize just how dangerous EVERY MINUTE is, with a foreign enemy combatant in our White House.

These revelations, if true, do in fact raise a very simple question which I’m surprised no one has asked. If Palafox is a man of principle, why isn’t he approached or asked any questions about basically the greatest fraud perpetrated on the American people, or given the status of America, one of the biggest frauds ever?

That seems the logical, easiest, and most reliable route. Everything else is still speculation.

I agree. Just very quickly before I head out the door, I’ll say that one reason this has not been done is because there’s really no entity authorized to investigate the HDOH who will actually do it. The Ombudsman’s office is worthless, from my experience with them. Their courts are worthless, based on Duncan Sunahara’s experiences with them. What’s really necessary is a federal investigation – which would have the authority to depose Palafox and others. Part of my hope in presenting the pieces and how they seem to fit together is to try to convince the members of Congress (who still care about this country’s existence) that this task falls to them and they MUST NOT abandon this country to lawlessness. Off the top of my head I could name at least a dozen people who should have been deposed a long time ago, but only the feds would have the authority to do it, and they have gone AWOL in our time of direst need. Sort of like Obama on the night of 9-11-12, when Tyrone Woods was painting targets and waiting for the US military to live up to its creed of never leaving a man behind. Obama was in bed getting his beauty sleep. Like I said, sort of like Congress, in our time of dire need, when they are the only ones who can do what has to be done…

But Butter, why hasn’t the CCP spoken to him and verified? A whistleblower in that position cannot be taken lightly. If true, it would look HORRIBLE for the HDOH and Abercrombie. A nail in the coffin, if you will.

How do we know they haven’t spoken to him? They keep talking about a bombshell discovery that has just come up. Everybody has a different idea of what “bombshell” means, but I do think it’s time for people who were aware of or in on this fraud to get their plea bargains by cooperating early.

The feds would be the best people to investigate this because they have subpoena power that has to be honored. But by giving the appearance of verifying a BC that Obama could not lawfully be given, Fuddy DID defraud Arizona voters (and all the rest of us as well). I’m not a legal expert, but as I think about this, I do think the posse would have grounds to investigate and prosecute Fuddy and the other perpetrators of that fraud against Arizona voters.

I don’t know what’s going on in the background – what the legal strategy of the CCP is. I know that my email is being monitored because critical emails to and from Mike Zullo have gone missing. I am deliberately out of the loop with the CCP so as to not jeopardize anything by having it intercepted through emails to me. I know that Mike knows the lines between county, state, and federal investigations and crimes, and I’m sure he is working towards getting an investigation into the hands of people who can successfully subpoena and depose. I’ve got a long list of stuff I’d like somebody to do. The first job is to get an investigation authorized for somebody who can successfully compel the production of evidence and depositions. I’m praying for that, hard.