August 3, 2011

"I mean he didn’t have a problem with paling around with Bill Ayers back in the day when he kicked off his political career in Bill Ayers apartment, and shaking hands with Chavez and saying he doesn’t need any preconditions with meeting dictators or wanting to read US Miranda rights to alleged suspected foreign terrorists. No if we were real domestic terrorists I think President Obama wouldn’t have a problem with us."

Back when he was running, there were newspaper articles about how Obama in his community organizing days, and Bill Ayers had offices on the same floor of the same building for, I think, 3 years or so, and asking how come Obama now could barely remember and recognize Mr. Ayers?

I'd give anything to put her up against Obama. He'd be stuttering and stammering and droning (not as in killer drones)on with his lecture finger pointed...and Sister Sarah would be zingin', like in Palin'around, him left and right.

She is just fearless with that great common sense ability to see the phony coming and their phony convoluted thinking and pull it out and knock it out of the park.

"roesch-voltaire said...True if the TP were real terrorist, Obama would send drones to drop bombs on them, or a Seal unit to shoot them in the head because that is the way he pals around with terrorist"

"True if the TP were real terrorist, Obama would send drones to drop bombs on them, or a Seal unit to shoot them in the head because that is the way he pals around with terrorist" @roesch-voltaire said.

What terrorists, there is no war on terror...its an overseas contingency operation. There are no muslim jihadists...just misunderstood criminals. Ok about the drones and assasination, at least he's not doing that awful waterboarding!

And she would have driven that point home during the election if McCain were really meant to win. The Debt Master Central Bankers had already made their choice-- the fix was in, so she was shut down.McCain was not a natural born Citizen either (born in Panama Canal Zone, and needed USC 8 S. 1403 to make him a US Citizen) thereby neutralizing any Quo Warranto.I guess the "law prof" Blogger lady was aware of the Usurper's associations w/ criminals, terrorists and racists, but didn't mind. Heck she didn't even mind that he wasn't eligible (not a natural born Citizen because he was born British, of a British subject father). A "law prof" didn't know (Con Law at that-- no wonder lawyers know very little about the Constitution)!

The Tea Party are hardly "domestic terrorists." Rather, they're a tiny minorty cohort of spoiled, screaming infants who could easily be ignored, but who serve as a handy excuse for Obama--(and the Democrats)--(and the Republicans)-- allowing them all to do what they wanted to do and planned to do all along.

The kabuki theater of the past weeks over the raising (or not) of the debt ceiling--(it was a foregone conclusion from the start it would be raised, as it will be raised in the future, whoever is in the White House...it was never NOT going to be raised)--was staged to scare the public into accepting whatever devastating cuts to Social Security and Medicare might be effected in order to "save us" from "even worse" chimera of doom that might supposedly follow otherwise, while providing plausible deniability to all parties for any comlaints they will receive from their respective constituents.

Maureen Dowd in her column today takes pleasure in explicitly comparing the Tea Party members of Congress to cannibals, vampires, aliens, and zombies. They've tried rascists and terrorists. It's time to up the ante. Flesh eating zombies. In the battle for the soul of America nothing is more persuasive than calling fiscal conservatives flesh eating zombies. That'll work. Maybe Sarah Palin is a succubus.

@AJR...oh, OK. You could have told us sooner, then no one would have had to waste their time having their own opinion. Our mistake, there for a minute we thought this was the land of free speech and a right to think for yourself.

Okay let us look at "domestic" terrorist and we discover the arrest of Hutaree Militia, the sentencing of Bruce and Josha Turnidge who wanted to attack the political structure, the arrest of Kody Brittingham, the shooting of John Partrick Bedell, the "sovereign citizens Joe and Jerry Kane, etc. Not much paling around here. About the cartoon, I have not seen it, but what is obvious to reasonable persons is obvious--this is Palin just talking propaganda trash.

The refreshing thing about having Sarah Palin as President--'twill never be, don't you all know?--would be that she would almost certainly resign halfway through her first term, by which time she would have grown bored and/or overwhelmed by the realities of the office.

The refreshing thing about having Sarah Palin as President--'twill never be, don't you all know?--would be that she would almost certainly resign halfway through her first term, by which time she would have grown bored and/or overwhelmed by the realities of the office.

They were like cannibals, eating their own party and leaders alive. They were like vampires, draining the country’s reputation, credit rating and compassion. They were like zombies, relentlessly and mindlessly coming back again and again to assault their unnerved victims, Boehner and President Obama. They were like the metallic beasts in “Alien” flashing mouths of teeth inside other mouths of teeth, bursting out of Boehner’s stomach every time he came to a bouquet of microphones. (Conjuring that last image on Monday, Vladimir Putin described America as “a parasite.”)

In direct response to Biden talking propaganda. That's what makes it potent, not that Palin said this out of the blue, but that instead of getting bent out of shape, she pushes back and jabs Obama at a weak point.

Rather than whining about Biden, she makes the statement that careless words can be rebounded.

Of course neither Right or Left would pal around with terrorists now. But if you call us terrorists in your rhetoric we'll remind you how real terrorists have been part of your rise to power.

It stops that sort of rhetoric cold. Because now Obama won't wink and smile at Biden's verbal wanderings, he'll reign him in.

Since I live in a far left community, I'll tell you with certainty what the left would be saying today had the president, through his surrogates, attempted to brand his political opponents as "terrorists."

We would be discussing whether this propaganda assault was likely to lead to police and military violence and suppression of the supposedly "terrorist" group.

This propaganda offensive emanates from the White House. It was initiated by the Vice President. Clearly, it has President Obama's approval.

Does this propaganda offensive, clearly directed from the White House, signal an attempt to forcibly suppress the Tea Party?

You can bet the left would be arguing precisely that if a Republican president labeled a Democrat Party aligned political faction as "terrorist."

"r-v, you keep ignoring Obama's long-term relationship with Bill Ayers, which was clearly what Palin was discussing."

Hardly...I just don't give a shit about it. Three years into his term, Obama continues governing like a staunch Republican, so I wonder when this stealth "Manchurian Candidate" you imagine Obama to be is going to kick in.

In other words, were the tables turned, Democrats would be screaming at the top of their lungs about suppression of free speech and the right to peaceably petition the government.

The President of the United States has at least condoned this propaganda assault on his political opponents. He's condoned denouncing the Tea Party for promoting violence. There is absolutely no evidence to support this.

Hardly...I just don't give a shit about it. Three years into his term, Obama continues governing like a staunch Republican, so I wonder when this stealth "Manchurian Candidate" you imagine Obama to be is going to kick in.

Kookie, you are so contemptibly stupid!

You're politics are so vile and vicious that you don't even belong in the debate.

Mountains of evidence that CAIR is a front for the militant Muslim Brotherhood and yet Holder's Justice Dept hasn't gone after them. An AWOL twerp shouts Major Hasan's name over and over during his arraignment and there's a near media blackout on the subject.

And yet a political faction exerting its influence legally and WITHIN the political framework of our republic is considered terrorist/criminal/hostage taking.

This is why I love Sarah, despite any reservations I might have with her as executive timber. While gelded clowns like Mitt, Pawlenty and Huntsman tiptoe around Little Black Jesus, she smacks that pompous, affirmative action clown right between the eyes.

"Propaganda trash?" After over twenty years of scum like Ted Kennedy smearing Robert Bork with "back alley abortion" fearmongering, Gore's delegitimization of an election through his whiny refusal to abide by the electoral college and EIGHT FRICKEN YEARS of the Democrats indulging in assassination fantasies, screams of betrayal, accusations of engineering 9/11 and outright treason during wartime, it's long past time that the left got its head handed to it. God knows the GOP establishment are too cowardly to call you out for the scum you are.

I notice, roach, that you forgot to add Eric Rudolph and Timothy McVeigh to your predictable "butright-wingers are terrorists, too!" list. Media Matters isn't getting its money's worth from you.

And, of course, you still haven't addressed Palin's point (which, had McCain not been a worthless, corrupt, doddering fool, he couldhave hammered into the ground) - Obama has definite, documented connections with Bill "guilty as sin, free as a bird" Ayers, his loathsome wife (who gloated over the killing of the LaBianca family)and the Weathermen, terrorists all. But we're just supposed to ignore that.

Trust Sarah to connect the dots. But then, Obama sure does make himself an easy target. I was just reading about his birthday bash/fund raiser today in Chicago. He's hitting up those evil, greedy "millionaires and billionaires" for campaign donations. The very same people he demonizes every time he gets in front of a microphone.

I still can't believe Obama so blatantly lied about his relationships with people like Ayers, Khalidi, and Rezko when he was running for President of the United States. How the media managed to turn it against Sarah Palin will be something to study.

Palin's a libertarian, not conservative. Like the A-house gang. Reagan didn't ride a Harley or smoke crack. And for that matter, upheld a few New Deal principles, however offensive to the teabuggers or Randian quacks.

Even if Ayres "found" him. And, "molded him" in some sort of image. You're not looking at disciples who've seen Jesus.

Not that disciples aren't looking for their leader. Politics is just different. Maybe? Maybe, more like baseball. But Jackie Robinson really could play! And, Roy Campanella was right behind him.

What did obama offer exactly? Even when you created the image. He spoke a foreign language. His mom didn't belong to The Red Cross ... (Or, only if you want Red to mean russia. Where you make your first misstep.)

Because the Vatican, at keeping state secrets, is a thousand years older.

And, trying to piece HOW Obama got to be Miss America ... needs to go beyond the plastic surgeons.

He was a TYPE. He had to mold, himself, first, to fit.

Every single political movement. Be it in monarchies. Or churches. Or elite groups. Evenutally runs out of steam.

Even in the good book. It says, at first there was chaos. Well, after the world started rolling, we know now ... it's Entropy all the way down.

And, even among kings ... per Barbara Tuckman ... the "line" runs out in seven generations. (Except for Churchill's.)

Easy to do when no one in the media would bother themselves to do the slightest investigation

Hoosier- easy to ignore without investigating, but even when the investigations were handed to them, they did not want to touch it. Even when they knew Axelrod lied to their faces, they did not want to pursue it. I think they were afraid it would really hurt him.

Sure, they were, in that they had no real influence on what went down. You didn't read my whole statement, did you?

They are useful for both parties: Obama--and the Dems--can blame them for their "being forced" (sic) to "cave in" to right wing policy demands while doing that which they were going to do anyway, and the Republicans, who fear and scorn the Tea Party for the most part, can claim their T.P. bona fides while doing that which they were going to do anyway.

Face facts: the public is not the real constituency for either party...the financial elites are. Both parties serve Wall Street and bray about "serving the people" in the eternal Washington practice of lying and pandering.

You trying to be funny, Edu, the Palinite and crack-byatch? You're not funny or witty, trailer park libertarian. Nor are you a conservative. Just another perp and queer atheist (and ID'd as such with real conservatives). And your ex agrees, joto.

They are useful for both parties: Obama--and the Dems--can blame them for their "being forced" (sic) to "cave in" to right wing policy demands while doing that which they were going to do anyway, and the Republicans, who fear and scorn the Tea Party for the most part, can claim their T.P. bona fides while doing that which they were going to do anyway.

I read that entire statement. You're still wrong. The administration came out of this smelling to high hell. His approval didn't bounce at all and currently hovers around 40...Carter territory. He didn't get the clean increase he wanted and the TP forced the GOP to "call his bluff". They did and he was shown to have junk in his hand.

If you think the GOP is claiming "bona fides" you're not paying close enough attention. This isn't a case of the sheeple going back to the pen after the ruckus and they're not unhappy because of a just compromise. Every TP member I know is still up in arms and EXTREMELY cynical of what's going to happen in November. Most of them are calling bullshit on the nearly the whole deal.

I grant you this label of terrorist has become cheap propaganda trash starting with those who called Obama a terrorist at Republican rallies, and the constant drone about Billy Ayers right up to Biden's suggestion that holding the US financial status hostage was "acting like terrorist." Our national rhetoric shows what a gun-happy, war driven culture we have become--everybody is a terrorist except for you and me, and I am not so sure about you.

I think that this was well done by Gov. Palin. I worried a bit yesterday whether the "terrorist" meme might have some legs, since that is the one thing that the Tea Party is not, and many of its members would be horrified to be considered.

Remember this is the group that typically leaves its protest venues cleaner than before they arrived (which is why RC's posts are so humorous). We are talking middle America here, the bedrock. And, if enough people called Tea Party participants, then maybe some of them might be horrified enough of the idea to stay home next time.

So, again, Palin comes to the rescue, killing the Administration's latest focus group tested proto-meme in its tracks, with one short comeback.

Don't know if she would make a good President (ok, it would be hard to do worse that what we have now), but I am sure glad that she is on (most of - with J and RC here today) our side here.

I grant you this label of terrorist has become cheap propaganda trash starting with those who called Obama a terrorist at Republican rallies, and the constant drone about Billy Ayers right up to Biden's suggestion that holding the US financial status hostage was "acting like terrorist." Our national rhetoric shows what a gun-happy, war driven culture we have become--everybody is a terrorist except for you and me, and I am not so sure about you.

Billy Ayers???? Sounds like the 10 year old down the street.

Roesch would like for us to forget how this sack of slime came within an inch of slaughtering how many people at Fort Dix, thanks only to the incompetence of his then-girlfriend?

The "distinguished educator" is a real terrorist and the hard core Left which runs the Democrat Party is part and parcel of what he believes in to this day, including his protegee.

"what a gun-happy, war driven culture" describes little Billy and his Lefty friends more than the rest of the country. They're the ones who've been waging war for, really, about a century.

Hey Thuggos: you talked shit about Bill Ayers for nearly a year, and did Obama get elected? You betcha!

You might want to try a new shitty thing to carp about for the next round, considering it didn't work the first time. Also, Osama getting one through the eye socket probably doesn't help your argument. How's that "Obama pals around with Osama" thing workin' out for ya?

Face facts: the public is not the real constituency for either party...the financial elites are. Both parties serve Wall Street and bray about "serving the people" in the eternal Washington practice of lying and pandering.

I don't think that you are following this very closely. This new crop of Republicans in the House is different. They don't fall lock-step behind the leadership, but rather, the leadership, time and time again, is having to follow the Tea Party. You saw this this time, as the deals that the Republican leadership thought that they had put together fell apart, when their caucus fell apart.

I saw this whole thing, good and bad, old, and new, this spring and early summer, trying to fight against patent reform. We were out-gunned, and massively out-spent, by the big tech companies (IBM, MSFT, Intel, etc.) The legislation blew through the Senate this year, with Leahy seen celebrating with IBM at their plant in Burlington a couple of days later. Crony capitalism at its worst. Then it blew through the subcommittee and committee in the House, with Lamar Smith ramming it through, stacking hearings, limiting debate all the way along. It hit the Rules committee, and was ready for the floor, and, whoops.

Someone finally noticed that the bill would take control of the USPTO budget away from Congress and give it to the former IBMer running the USPTO (who, conveniently, had been one of the primary pushers of the legislation before taking the USPTO slot). Beck, then Rush, mentioned it, and the bill wasn't going anywhere that way. The bill sat right there at the Rules committee for a week, and then Smith and his corporate backers caved, amending the bill to satisfy the Tea Party. And that is where it sits now, technically in reconciliation, almost identical bills passed in both Houses, but hung up on something that the Tea Party isn't budging on, and the old bulls in the Senate, having been well paid off by those big companies, not willing to give in. My prediction is that the Senate will ultimately cave, because their paymasters want to weaken the patent system so badly that they will take 98% and give up on control of funding, as they did in the House.

This is the same sort of thing that we saw with the debt ceiling. The House leadership thinks that they have more leeway than they do. They see how Pelosi walked her Blue Dogs off the electoral cliff by forcing them to vote for ObamaCare, etc., and remember the last time that the Republicans had the House, and expected that sort of control. They have it, until it comes to spending and esp. taxes.

BTW - The Representative who helped us the most in our fight against patent reform was Rep. Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin. Met with him in April, and he seemed to be the only long term Congressman involved who hadn't sold out to the big companies. If you are in his district, give him your vote next time.

Putting the cart before the horse, certainly, but abstract thought can be like that sometimes.

Assume we get everything we want visa vi the Tea Party. Even assume that history/poli-sci types call this a limited government or Constitutionalists revolution. The real struggle, even after all the biggest battles are fought and won, will, as with all revolutions, be a battle not to become that which was originally fought against.

Much easier to blow up trains, in other words, than to make them run on time. It's just something everyone should keep in their back pocket as a sort of anti-hubris spray.

Please try your best to enthusiastically support whoever wins the GOP primaries and goes up against Obama, even if the winner doesn’t fit every point on your personal political profile. It’s even more important this time than last time.

The Tea Party are hardly "domestic terrorists." Rather, they're a tiny minorty [sic] cohort of spoiled, screaming infants who could easily be ignored, but who serve as a handy excuse for Obama--(and the Democrats)--(and the Republicans)-- allowing them all to do what they wanted to do and planned to do all along.

Obama's a centrist and ...pro-capitalist (ie, hiring G-man sachs execs one of his first acts). But he's... a black centrist, so the crypto-Klansmen..and trailer-park Palinites call him a commie--that's how Foxspeak works (tho' even Hannity & Co against the trailer-park Palinites now).

By the way, I don't see "orgasmic support" for Obama from any quarter in this country.

Funny you should mention quarter. That's almost exactly the "strongly support" sector of his approval ratings. I suppose one could translate "strongly support" into "orgasmic", but you have to be on the bottom and capable of benching more than J's self-claimed 400 lbs.

franglo forgets Little Zero was elected only because the greatest con in American history was pulled on the American people.

There's plenty to complain about - all Zero's doing and I'm guessing we've haven't seen the worst yet since heavy hitters like Cisco and Goldman Sachs are announcing big layoffs and the markets are going nowhere but down.

bin Laden? That was Leon Panetta's doing and achieved in spite of, not because of, our own Domestic Terrorist-In-Chief; a project, it should be noted, begun under Dubya. Both Nerobama and Ayers are dedicated to the same thing - the destruction of this country.

Obama's a centrist and ...pro-capitalist (ie, hiring G-man sachs execs one of his first acts). But he's... a black centrist, so the crypto-Klansmen..and trailer-park Palinites call him a commie.

Normally, J doesn't deserve a response, and most here adhere to that.

But just to clarify, while Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was an avowed communist, and Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. seemed to pine for his father's approval, etc., if he ever was a communist, it was earlier in life, likely before he ever entered politics.

Rather, his preferred brand of socialism is much closer to fascism, with its reliance on corporate cronyism. It is the big business/big government partnerships that distinguishes it from other brands of socialism.

R-V: In almost Garage-like style you conflate a real terrorist, Ayres, who blew up real buildings and killed real people with the tea party which has been called a terrorist by our silly Vice President. You can do better than that. There are real terrorists, people who were responsible for death and destruction, and Obama did indeed sit in their living room. Live with it. It is not the same as saying you ought to live within your means, as horrible as that might sound to ears not connected to bill paying.

Rather, his preferred brand of socialism is much closer to fascism, with its reliance on corporate cronyism. It is the big business/big government partnerships that distinguishes it from other brands of socialism.

Wow...profound stuff Haydenski. Obama's not a commie, he's a fascist, and corporations are socialist too! According to the delusional sort of glibertarians. And big business/big govt.--like the DoD that issues you a check, Bruce the socialist? Yeah. You don't know jack about politics, perp-- anymore than the trailer park Palinites here do.

But actually, Obama is ruling like leftists THINK Republicans do. Not just his war stance, but he promotes crony capitalism, He caters to his high stakes contributors on Wall Street. He grants favors and wavers to his supporters and punishes his enemies. He is in bed with big corporations like GE and enforces policies that boost their bottom lines like Curley Fry light bulbs and wind farms. Also, GE makes gas turbine power plants which compete with coal-fired plants which Obama’s EPA is shutting down. These are the kinds of things leftists have been accusing Republicans of doing for years, for example with the oil companies.

Both roeschie and Cookie are superior people. Superior superior superior. And to present that front to us lesser beings is the only reason they post. roeschie never fails to look down his skinny aristocratic nose at those primitive gun totin' war lovin' 'Muricans. Cookie and only Cookie has the secret gnostic knowledge-key that unlocks why the puppets jiggle the way they do. And of course you don't and never will have that knowledge. In both cases the castle walls go higher in higher lest either be seen as or see himself as - horror of horrors - a fallible human being. Like everyone else.

The best thing about Sarah Palin is that she annoys the shit out of all the right people, including the usual suspects here in the Althouse comments. I always know that she's hit a nerve when some little piggie squeals five or six times in the comments.

Hoosier Daddy said..."..The Feds will spend 3.8 trillion this year and borrow a huge chunk of it...'

I'll say it again. That's $1 trillion more than what we spent in 2008.

================So what you are saying is Obama is worse than the idiot Bush. Bush left a colossal mess, and Obama has made it worse.And the dismal thing is that if McCain had been elected, we would have had a destroyed Republican Party, GITMO closed, massive bailouts to his dear friend rich people, a major war with Iran, the Amnesty+Dream Act passed.

**************BTW, good dig by Palin on Obama..even though it was not Obama, but the NYC media, Dems in Congress, and Biden trying to push the narrative. Not Obama.Palin seems well-suited as a pundit. Just like Ann Coulter and Pitchfork Pat Buchanan.Not fit to be President - any of them - anymore than some witty Lefty pundit (are there any??) would be.

Jim said...Does she have the guts to get into this race or is she just going to sit there and snipe?

=====================Why should she, when she is raking in millions as a "Voice" to her people, just like Jesse Jackson, Ann Coulter do pandering to "their peeps". What makes a pundit, even one you agree with, automatically worthy of an office because they can dispense a few bon mots that their yahoo base laps up? There is a segment of the population, that probably should be barred from the right to vote, that sees their favorite pundit and red meat thrower as "the Next President" - because they are too stupid to see past the boob tube cracks and controversies the pundit feeds on as just something that advances the Pundit, not The Nation.

1. Make a 9/11 survivor President!2. Donald Trump says the right things and we need his show taken into Government "YOu're fired!"3. Gabby Giffords for President. She deserves it. She suffered as much if not more than John McCain did!4. Matt Damon for President!

"...That's because you're playing the Russians or the Polish, two kingdoms that could fight their way out of a wet paper sack :)..."

Well, if the bastards would wait until I developed husaria, I would go through them like shit through a goose. Poles get strzelcy, mounted crossbows which are a nice counter to the horde, but having that heavy Polish cav would seal the deal.

Turning a routine procedure into an artificial insta-crisis that threatens the entire global economy, because it's obvious that your Bizarro-World version of economics can never get majority support?

Yep, that sure is hilarious!

Why, just look at how much the markets yucked it up on Monday, LOL!

Bin Laden, 2001: give me what I demand or I will bankrupt the US.

Tea Party, 2011: give us what we demand or we will ruin the US economy.

But it's only terrorism when you use guns or bombs ... pay no attention to that lying dictionary! Who are you going to believe, Sarah Palin or those filthy liberal Commies Merriam & Webster? Especially after Super-Sarah did such an awesome job of handling Wasilla's budget (remember, deficits don't matter when the GOP creates them) or as governor of a state with a tiny population & hyperabundant natural resources.

SPOILER ALERTS: Google "Roosevelt Recession" to find out what sort of HILARIOUS hijinx ensue when you impose austerity in a weak economy. American Right Wing, 2012: this is all Obama's fault ... surely noone could have predicted ... the Job Creators will begin sharing the fruits of their latest tax-windfalls any day now ... we need MOAR austerity to jump-start the economy via Randian Pixie-Dust ... ad nauseaum.

I never knew that cutting spending when we were out of money was such a terrible thing.

I had a customer come in that said that NYC courts had laid off about 200 people because they were out of money. New York runs this way. Overspending money they don't have. For many many years. Raising taxes and raising taxes. Driving business out of the city. Even someone as liberal as Andrew Cuomo realizes that you can't keep raising taxes and spending and spending. You would think that you would get the idea.

This deal is a drop in the bucket.But it is understandable why it is causing a frenzy among the tax and spend crowd.

Tea Party, 2011: give us what we demand or we will ruin the US economy.

Please show one quote from a Tea Party caucus member that says this. I'd like to see one. Can you please provide a link?

Returning even to a 2008 level of spending would hardly be "imposing austerity", it would simply be a freeze in spending increases. You need to pop out the 8% baseline crack you and yours are addicted to and realize we're on a completely unsustainable path.

This deal is a drop in the bucket.But it is understandable why it is causing a frenzy among the tax and spend crowd.

It's not even a drop in the bucket. It's an unenforcable promise of cuts someday. The trajectory of this country is set in stone it seems. The Republicans and Democrats are taking us to the same place, just at different speeds.

Jim: Tea Party, 2011: give us what we demand or we will ruin the US economy.

Where did this loon learn his economics, Dem U Class of 2011?

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. ... Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally...." -- Sen. Barack Obama, 2006, prior to voting against raising the debt ceiling.

"I just love all the chickenshit err chickenhawk leftards puffing up their chests in support of Obunglers war efforts.

"So, when are you warmongering leftards signing up?"

and:

"Or is your change of heart war support just political bullshit now that your hero is in charge?

"Yea, I'm going with political bullshit."

Sgt. Ted seems to have wandered in from another discussion, as he takes two posts to excoriate someone of lefty persuasion for apparently applauding Obama's war efforts.

(For the record: I don't. Obama has earned himself a place in the war criminals' club, along with Bush, Cheney, et al.)

I've been busy today but have tried to follow the discussion, and I don't recall seeing any resident (or guest) Leftards--(that's right, I'll own the term, like gays do with "Faggot" or "Queer")--praising Obama for his prowess as a mass murderer.

But then, as I say, I've been busy...maybe I missed a significant part of the discussion.

Chavez:Eligio Cedeño was accused of fraud by the Public prosecutio official.He was jailed for three years without bail and without trial.He asked for his release sincce the law made it mandatory when trial is suspended for three years. The Judge Afiuni released him. The little coward ran to the USA. Then Chavez ordered her jailed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHnVzZGBvfIHer trail has been suspended once and again.She has cancer. She asked to go to the hospital. Her examination was refused once and again. Finally she was allowed to go the doctor. She had a citology. 10 national guards ,all men, were present while se was examinated.And your President want good relationships with him

That "terrorist" meme surely had a short lifespan, did it not? You have to be old enough to remember Martha Mitchell to remember someone as bad about letting their mouth run ahead of their brain. And even he has felt constrained to apologize.

What do Democrats use in lieu of brains? Anyone who does not live on the Upper West Side (or Adams-Morgan, or Hyde Park, or anywhere within 100 miles of San Francisco) knows members of the Tea Party? Unlike Code Pink, it is a genuine grass roots movement, and its members are our neighbors. And we know what they are -- ordinary citizens who've passed their fed-up limit and are pushing back.

No one who works in the White House, or writes for the New York Times likes being pushed back at, but them's the breaks, you know?

NPR had Frank Rich on today to tell everyone what he though of the Tea Party "lunatics". If I didn't know better I'd think there were some government types afraid their rice bowl is about to be upended. If only it were true.

Re Ayers: don't forget that Obama served with the guy on the Annenberg Challenge. AC was given a government contract to implement various education programs in many Chicago schools. Some of the programs were crafted by other outfits. Some originated from Annenberg itself - developed by none other than Ayers himself.

Bill Ayers founded a deadly terrorist organization. A sane person does not want that kind of person getting any kind of government contract, much less one for developing K-12 curricula. That's worse than O. J. Simpson teaching criminal law, even if O. J. did have all the appropriate sheepskin.

Either Obama couldn't recognize that Bill Ayers is evil, or he was apathetic about it. Or he joined Annenberg without bothering to find out who works for the joint. Each of those alternatives disqualifies Obama to be elected to any office.