From DLanouette at computer.org Fri Jun 1 07:42:14 2007
From: DLanouette at computer.org (David Lanouette)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 07:42:14 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] posting form data to https server
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Hey Phi.
You said that it "posts data OK but never works". What do you mean by
that? Is it just not throwing any exceptions on your side?
Can you look at the server logs and see if it's having a problem?
You might want to compare the actual http traffic between your code and curl.
Just some thoughts...
- David L.
On 5/31/07, Phi Sanders wrote:
> I'm trying to integrate a legacy unix production system to a legacy
> web service, and though it can be done by having ruby kick off a
> shell script (which is about my speed...) I thought I'd try to
> strengthen my ruby-fu by doing it that way (with the expected benefit
> that it would be more modular and maintainable)
>
> Below is a generalized version of my script, which posts data OK but
> never works, when the given curl form does... As you can see, I
> added a user-agent, because some tidbit I read suggested it solved
> their problem posting a form. I sincerely doubt the service is hard-
> coded to specific user agents since it takes the curl command OK (see
> ua* below)
>
> Can anyone suggest what I might not be doing correctly??
>
> #======BEGIN
> require 'net/http'
> require 'net/https'
>
> # trying to code the equivalent of...
> # curl -d "body of post" https://server.host.tld/java/function/
> resource?user_id=abc123
>
> user_id = "abc123"
> resource = "x-kvm-01234"
>
> site_url = "https://server.host.tld/java/function/" + resource + "?
> user_id=" + user_id
>
> raw_data = "any old random string - usually from a small text file"
>
> url = URI.parse(site_url)
>
> p "URL : " + site_url
> p "Path : " + url.path
> p "port : " + url.port.to_s
>
> # some web-apps won't work if you don't specify a user-agent...
>
> my_headers = {
> 'Content-Type' => 'application/x-www-form-urlencoded',
> 'User-Agent' => "mozilla/5.0 (macintosh; u; intel mac os x; en)
> ruby 1.8.5 (script, like curl, not safari, khtml or gecko)"
> }
>
> client = Net::HTTP.new(url.host,url.port)
> client.use_ssl = true # make false to test against non-secure server
>
> client.start {|conn|
> resp = conn.post(url.path, raw_data, my_headers)
> p "BODY : " + resp.body
> }
> #======END
>
> * curl user-agent : "curl/7.13.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.0) libcurl/
> 7.13.1 openssl/0.9.7l zlib/1.2.3"
>
> ~Phi
> --
> Phi Sanders,
>
> Business Systems Analyst,
> Vital Source Technologies,
> Ingram Digital Group
>
From phi+ruby at vitalsource.com Mon Jun 4 13:50:46 2007
From: phi+ruby at vitalsource.com (Phi Sanders)
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 13:50:46 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] posting form data to https server
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <8C089139-3B4F-47FB-B4AA-95BCCC16945E@vitalsource.com>
Sorry about the ambiguity.
What I mean is that if I change just the URL to an app I can observe
on my machine, I get the data I am posting, but that the legacy
application I cannot see the backside of always returns a xml
response, which just says "error". Yet curl will return xml with the
successful response, so I know my user_id is correct, the url is
correct, and the service is operational. What I don't know is what is
different between how curl posts this rather trivial bit of data, and
how the net/https library does it.
I suspect there is some header, encoding or parameter curl
automatically appends that I need to replicate... but what? I guess
it's time to re-learn ethereal...
~Phi
On Jun 1, 2007, at 7:42 AM, David Lanouette wrote:
> Hey Phi.
>
> You said that it "posts data OK but never works". What do you mean by
> that? Is it just not throwing any exceptions on your side?
>
> Can you look at the server logs and see if it's having a problem?
>
> You might want to compare the actual http traffic between your code
> and curl.
>
>
> Just some thoughts...
>
>
> - David L.
>
>
> On 5/31/07, Phi Sanders wrote:
>> I'm trying to integrate a legacy unix production system to a legacy
>> web service, and though it can be done by having ruby kick off a
>> shell script (which is about my speed...) I thought I'd try to
>> strengthen my ruby-fu by doing it that way (with the expected benefit
>> that it would be more modular and maintainable)
>>
>> Below is a generalized version of my script, which posts data OK but
>> never works, when the given curl form does... As you can see, I
>> added a user-agent, because some tidbit I read suggested it solved
>> their problem posting a form. I sincerely doubt the service is hard-
>> coded to specific user agents since it takes the curl command OK (see
>> ua* below)
>>
>> Can anyone suggest what I might not be doing correctly??
>>
>> #======BEGIN
>> require 'net/http'
>> require 'net/https'
>>
>> # trying to code the equivalent of...
>> # curl -d "body of post" https://server.host.tld/java/function/
>> resource?user_id=abc123
>>
>> user_id = "abc123"
>> resource = "x-kvm-01234"
>>
>> site_url = "https://server.host.tld/java/function/" + resource + "?
>> user_id=" + user_id
>>
>> raw_data = "any old random string - usually from a small text file"
>>
>> url = URI.parse(site_url)
>>
>> p "URL : " + site_url
>> p "Path : " + url.path
>> p "port : " + url.port.to_s
>>
>> # some web-apps won't work if you don't specify a user-agent...
>>
>> my_headers = {
>> 'Content-Type' => 'application/x-www-form-urlencoded',
>> 'User-Agent' => "mozilla/5.0 (macintosh; u; intel mac os x; en)
>> ruby 1.8.5 (script, like curl, not safari, khtml or gecko)"
>> }
>>
>> client = Net::HTTP.new(url.host,url.port)
>> client.use_ssl = true # make false to test against non-secure server
>>
>> client.start {|conn|
>> resp = conn.post(url.path, raw_data, my_headers)
>> p "BODY : " + resp.body
>> }
>> #======END
>>
>> * curl user-agent : "curl/7.13.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.0) libcurl/
>> 7.13.1 openssl/0.9.7l zlib/1.2.3"
>>
From clarkware at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 20:15:12 2007
From: clarkware at gmail.com (clarkware at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 18:15:12 -0600
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From lstebbing at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 08:52:53 2007
From: lstebbing at gmail.com (Lisa Stebbing)
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 07:52:53 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Ruby on Rails TDD Bootcamp comes to Raleigh!
Message-ID: <3d2221db0706080552o6b2d1577gb4fc7a486f862df8@mail.gmail.com>
Good Morning-
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From jared.haworth at gmail.com Fri Jun 15 16:08:35 2007
From: jared.haworth at gmail.com (Jared Haworth)
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:08:35 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] [OT] LLC Operating Agreements
Message-ID: <81438994-1711-4BAE-AF21-51CA2F98F65D@gmail.com>
Hi,
Can anyone point me in the direction of a good (preferably free)
sample Single-member LLC Operating Agreement for North Carolina? Has
anyone written one they're willing to share? I'm looking at making
myself 'official' and that's the one area that I can't seem to find
any good examples. Feel free to email me directly if this doesn't
belong on the list.
Thanks,
Jared Haworth
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From geoff at geoffdavis.net Fri Jun 15 16:12:19 2007
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:12:19 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] [OT] LLC Operating Agreements
In-Reply-To: <81438994-1711-4BAE-AF21-51CA2F98F65D@gmail.com>
References: <81438994-1711-4BAE-AF21-51CA2F98F65D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0B37858B-0DF9-4CAF-ABD2-B7A3BB4209FB@geoffdavis.net>
Nolo Press also has great books on incorporating, and the library has
most of them (or at least the Cameron Village branch does).
I used bizfilings.com to incorporate. They aren't free, but they are
relatively inexpensive (at least compared to a lawyer), and they have
good services for helping you comply with the regs going forward.
On Jun 15, 2007, at 4:08 PM, Jared Haworth wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone point me in the direction of a good (preferably free)
> sample Single-member LLC Operating Agreement for North Carolina?
> Has anyone written one they're willing to share? I'm looking at
> making myself 'official' and that's the one area that I can't seem
> to find any good examples. Feel free to email me directly if this
> doesn't belong on the list.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jared Haworth_______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
From nospam at tonyspencer.com Fri Jun 15 16:18:58 2007
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:18:58 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] [OT] LLC Operating Agreements
In-Reply-To: <81438994-1711-4BAE-AF21-51CA2F98F65D@gmail.com>
References: <81438994-1711-4BAE-AF21-51CA2F98F65D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2D9031C7-A4A8-4389-967B-0DAD7B7ACEC6@tonyspencer.com>
I don't think you really need an operating agreement if you are just
one. Just file with the state and be done.
I have a lawyer that does it for very cheap if interested. All you
do is tell him the name and he takes care of it. I've seen some
lawyers charge a fortune.
On Jun 15, 2007, at 4:08 PM, Jared Haworth wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone point me in the direction of a good (preferably free)
> sample Single-member LLC Operating Agreement for North Carolina?
> Has anyone written one they're willing to share? I'm looking at
> making myself 'official' and that's the one area that I can't seem
> to find any good examples. Feel free to email me directly if this
> doesn't belong on the list.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jared Haworth_______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
From larry.karnowski at gmail.com Sat Jun 16 08:02:31 2007
From: larry.karnowski at gmail.com (Larry Karnowski)
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 08:02:31 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] [OT] LLC Operating Agreements
In-Reply-To: <2D9031C7-A4A8-4389-967B-0DAD7B7ACEC6@tonyspencer.com>
References: <81438994-1711-4BAE-AF21-51CA2F98F65D@gmail.com>
<2D9031C7-A4A8-4389-967B-0DAD7B7ACEC6@tonyspencer.com>
Message-ID: <2b27183e0706160502r2df2d7c2xed5171367032b96@mail.gmail.com>
Tony,
I'd be interested in your lawyer's name and contact info, thanks!
Larry
On 6/15/07, Tony Spencer wrote:
> I don't think you really need an operating agreement if you are just
> one. Just file with the state and be done.
>
> I have a lawyer that does it for very cheap if interested. All you
> do is tell him the name and he takes care of it. I've seen some
> lawyers charge a fortune.
>
>
>
> On Jun 15, 2007, at 4:08 PM, Jared Haworth wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can anyone point me in the direction of a good (preferably free)
> > sample Single-member LLC Operating Agreement for North Carolina?
> > Has anyone written one they're willing to share? I'm looking at
> > making myself 'official' and that's the one area that I can't seem
> > to find any good examples. Feel free to email me directly if this
> > doesn't belong on the list.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jared Haworth_______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
From DLanouette at computer.org Sat Jun 16 10:05:14 2007
From: DLanouette at computer.org (David Lanouette)
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:05:14 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] [OT] LLC Operating Agreements
In-Reply-To: <81438994-1711-4BAE-AF21-51CA2F98F65D@gmail.com>
References: <81438994-1711-4BAE-AF21-51CA2F98F65D@gmail.com>
Message-ID:
Hey Jared.
I'm going to throw in a contrary point of view by saying that you may
want to reconsider not using a lawyer.
(First, I'm not a lawyer, so don't miss understand this as actual legal advice.)
Usually the reason to incorporate (LLC, S or C Corporation) is for the
legal protection (people can sue the company, but not you personally).
However, that protection isn't absolute. If you do something wrong
setting up the corporation somebody may be able to still go after you
personally.
If you use a lawyer, you get two benefits.
- It's less likely that they will make those mistakes because of
experience and knowledge.
- If they do make a mistake, lawyers carry liability insurance that
could cover you if you did get personally sued.
Yes, they are more expensive than doing it yourself, but it could
worth the money.
Just some thoughts...
On 6/15/07, Jared Haworth wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone point me in the direction of a good (preferably free)
> sample Single-member LLC Operating Agreement for North Carolina? Has
> anyone written one they're willing to share? I'm looking at making
> myself 'official' and that's the one area that I can't seem to find
> any good examples. Feel free to email me directly if this doesn't
> belong on the list.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jared Haworth
From nospam at tonyspencer.com Mon Jun 18 19:20:54 2007
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:20:54 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] OT: which cnf file is mysql using on my mac?
Message-ID:
Not a ruby question but hopefully one of you Mac users can help me.
Do you know how to tell which .cnf file mysql is using on the Mac? I
installed with the mysql binary b/c I wanted that preference pane but
now I want to enable mysql cache but have no clue which file is being
loaded when mysql starts.
From outtenr at gmail.com Mon Jun 18 20:53:54 2007
From: outtenr at gmail.com (Richard Outten)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:53:54 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] OT: which cnf file is mysql using on my mac?
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <905212740706181753t508155e5xbdda4f12f1864628@mail.gmail.com>
Tony,
I am using 5.0.27 for MacOSX from the mysql.com. When I run
"/usr/local/mysql/bin/my_print_defaults", it says my defaults are:
---------------------------------------------
Default options are read from the following files in the given order:
/etc/my.cnf ~/.my.cnf /usr/local/mysql/etc/my.cnf
---------------------------------------------
Hope that helps.
-Richard
On 6/18/07, Tony Spencer wrote:
> Not a ruby question but hopefully one of you Mac users can help me.
>
> Do you know how to tell which .cnf file mysql is using on the Mac? I
> installed with the mysql binary b/c I wanted that preference pane but
> now I want to enable mysql cache but have no clue which file is being
> loaded when mysql starts.
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
From nospam at tonyspencer.com Mon Jun 18 21:03:22 2007
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:03:22 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] OT: which cnf file is mysql using on my mac?
In-Reply-To: <905212740706181753t508155e5xbdda4f12f1864628@mail.gmail.com>
References:
<905212740706181753t508155e5xbdda4f12f1864628@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID:
Hmm, mine says the following but neither file exists:
-----------------
Default options are read from the following files in the given order:
/etc/my.cnf ~/.my.cnf
-----------------
On Jun 18, 2007, at 8:53 PM, Richard Outten wrote:
> Tony,
>
> I am using 5.0.27 for MacOSX from the mysql.com. When I run
> "/usr/local/mysql/bin/my_print_defaults", it says my defaults are:
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> Default options are read from the following files in the given
> order:
> /etc/my.cnf ~/.my.cnf /usr/local/mysql/etc/my.cnf
> ---------------------------------------------
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> -Richard
>
> On 6/18/07, Tony Spencer wrote:
>> Not a ruby question but hopefully one of you Mac users can help me.
>>
>> Do you know how to tell which .cnf file mysql is using on the Mac? I
>> installed with the mysql binary b/c I wanted that preference pane but
>> now I want to enable mysql cache but have no clue which file is being
>> loaded when mysql starts.
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
From lists-jared at nc.rr.com Mon Jun 18 21:46:11 2007
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:46:11 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] OT: which cnf file is mysql using on my mac?
In-Reply-To:
References:
<905212740706181753t508155e5xbdda4f12f1864628@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <25AB9B82-17F4-4D3A-8723-A0F23E1C7E01@nc.rr.com>
If you create one in the listed path, mysql will see it and use it...
but it won't load until you restart mysql. Do something crazy like
change the networking port from 3306. Then you'll be able to tell
when it uses your new config file. :)
But I suspect you have one somewhere on your machine already. Is this
your OS X box?
Jared
http://AgileArtisans.com
On Jun 18, 2007, at 9:03 PM |Jun/18, Tony Spencer wrote:
> Hmm, mine says the following but neither file exists:
>
> -----------------
> Default options are read from the following files in the given order:
> /etc/my.cnf ~/.my.cnf
> -----------------
>
> On Jun 18, 2007, at 8:53 PM, Richard Outten wrote:
>
>> Tony,
>>
>> I am using 5.0.27 for MacOSX from the mysql.com. When I run
>> "/usr/local/mysql/bin/my_print_defaults", it says my defaults are:
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> Default options are read from the following files in the given
>> order:
>> /etc/my.cnf ~/.my.cnf /usr/local/mysql/etc/my.cnf
>> ---------------------------------------------
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> -Richard
>>
>> On 6/18/07, Tony Spencer wrote:
>>> Not a ruby question but hopefully one of you Mac users can help me.
>>>
>>> Do you know how to tell which .cnf file mysql is using on the
>>> Mac? I
>>> installed with the mysql binary b/c I wanted that preference pane
>>> but
>>> now I want to enable mysql cache but have no clue which file is
>>> being
>>> loaded when mysql starts.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
From nospam at tonyspencer.com Mon Jun 18 22:04:50 2007
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:04:50 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] OT: which cnf file is mysql using on my mac?
In-Reply-To: <25AB9B82-17F4-4D3A-8723-A0F23E1C7E01@nc.rr.com>
References:
<905212740706181753t508155e5xbdda4f12f1864628@mail.gmail.com>
<25AB9B82-17F4-4D3A-8723-A0F23E1C7E01@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <23F35A3D-46FF-45EF-9D47-77F98A8B4407@tonyspencer.com>
Well locate doesn't turn up any my.cnf but several others:
locate *.cnf
/opt/local/var/db/dports/sources/
rsync.rsync.darwinports.org_dpupdate_dports/databases/mysql4/files/
my.cnf
/opt/local/var/db/dports/sources/
rsync.rsync.darwinports.org_dpupdate_dports/security/stunnel/files/
patch-tools-stunnel.cnf
/opt/local/var/db/dports/sources/
rsync.rsync.darwinports.org_dpupdate_dports/tex/XeTeX/files/fmtutil.cnf
/usr/local/mysql-standard-5.0.19-osx10.4-i686/mysql-test/std_data/
ndb_config_mycnf1.cnf
/usr/local/mysql-standard-5.0.19-osx10.4-i686/mysql-test/std_data/
ndb_config_mycnf2.cnf
/usr/local/mysql-standard-5.0.19-osx10.4-i686/support-files/my-huge.cnf
/usr/local/mysql-standard-5.0.19-osx10.4-i686/support-files/my-innodb-
heavy-4G.cnf
/usr/local/mysql-standard-5.0.19-osx10.4-i686/support-files/my-large.cnf
/usr/local/mysql-standard-5.0.19-osx10.4-i686/support-files/my-
medium.cnf
/usr/local/mysql-standard-5.0.19-osx10.4-i686/support-files/my-small.cnf
I was just hoping there was some mysql query that would cause it to
report which file it was loading.
On Jun 18, 2007, at 9:46 PM, Jared Richardson wrote:
> If you create one in the listed path, mysql will see it and use it...
> but it won't load until you restart mysql. Do something crazy like
> change the networking port from 3306. Then you'll be able to tell
> when it uses your new config file. :)
>
> But I suspect you have one somewhere on your machine already. Is this
> your OS X box?
>
> Jared
> http://AgileArtisans.com
>
>
> On Jun 18, 2007, at 9:03 PM |Jun/18, Tony Spencer wrote:
>
>> Hmm, mine says the following but neither file exists:
>>
>> -----------------
>> Default options are read from the following files in the given order:
>> /etc/my.cnf ~/.my.cnf
>> -----------------
>>
>> On Jun 18, 2007, at 8:53 PM, Richard Outten wrote:
>>
>>> Tony,
>>>
>>> I am using 5.0.27 for MacOSX from the mysql.com. When I run
>>> "/usr/local/mysql/bin/my_print_defaults", it says my defaults are:
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>> Default options are read from the following files in the given
>>> order:
>>> /etc/my.cnf ~/.my.cnf /usr/local/mysql/etc/my.cnf
>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Hope that helps.
>>>
>>> -Richard
>>>
>>> On 6/18/07, Tony Spencer wrote:
>>>> Not a ruby question but hopefully one of you Mac users can help me.
>>>>
>>>> Do you know how to tell which .cnf file mysql is using on the
>>>> Mac? I
>>>> installed with the mysql binary b/c I wanted that preference pane
>>>> but
>>>> now I want to enable mysql cache but have no clue which file is
>>>> being
>>>> loaded when mysql starts.
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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From pelargir at gmail.com Tue Jun 19 07:46:12 2007
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 07:46:12 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
Message-ID:
As usual, anyone who's available is invited to crash Baja Burrito
tonight at 5:30 (http://rubyurl.com/CGF) to grab dinner and some Ruby
chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting.
While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.
Matthew Bass
From larry.karnowski at gmail.com Tue Jun 19 08:29:59 2007
From: larry.karnowski at gmail.com (Larry Karnowski)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:29:59 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <2b27183e0706190529k3e4ce99cu568ba2025314353d@mail.gmail.com>
I'm in.
On 6/19/07, Matthew wrote:
> As usual, anyone who's available is invited to crash Baja Burrito
> tonight at 5:30 (http://rubyurl.com/CGF) to grab dinner and some Ruby
> chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting.
>
> While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
> with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.
>
> Matthew Bass
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
From rick.denatale at gmail.com Tue Jun 19 09:41:53 2007
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:41:53 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
On 6/19/07, Matthew wrote:
> As usual, anyone who's available is invited to crash Baja Burrito
> tonight at 5:30 (http://rubyurl.com/CGF) to grab dinner and some Ruby
> chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting.
>
> While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
> with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.
That's my plan.
--
Rick
From DLanouette at computer.org Tue Jun 19 10:28:13 2007
From: DLanouette at computer.org (David Lanouette)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:28:13 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
in
______________________________
- David Lanouette
- Integrity First Software, Inc.
- David.Lanouette at GMail.com
- 919-610-6656
Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit - Aristotle
On 6/19/07, Matthew wrote:
> As usual, anyone who's available is invited to crash Baja Burrito
> tonight at 5:30 (http://rubyurl.com/CGF) to grab dinner and some Ruby
> chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting.
>
> While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
> with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.
>
> Matthew Bass
From robert.horvick at gmail.com Tue Jun 19 10:28:36 2007
From: robert.horvick at gmail.com (Robert Horvick)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:28:36 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
In.
On 6/19/07, Matthew wrote:
>
> As usual, anyone who's available is invited to crash Baja Burrito
> tonight at 5:30 (http://rubyurl.com/CGF) to grab dinner and some Ruby
> chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting.
>
> While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
> with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.
>
> Matthew Bass
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From toebes at cisco.com Tue Jun 19 12:30:54 2007
From: toebes at cisco.com (John Toebes)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:30:54 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
Message-ID: <895F5F3C-3F86-4248-821D-4DB2C22BBEF1@cisco.com>
I'm in.. but the real question for me is being new to the group.. How
would I recognize the crowd?
-- John
---
John Toebes
Chief Architect
Media Solutions Group
toebes at cisco.com
Phone :+1 919 392 7410
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From mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com Tue Jun 19 13:04:49 2007
From: mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com (Mark Bennett)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:04:49 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <895F5F3C-3F86-4248-821D-4DB2C22BBEF1@cisco.com>
References: <895F5F3C-3F86-4248-821D-4DB2C22BBEF1@cisco.com>
Message-ID:
Look for the glow of pasty skin ; - ) ...or a large group of men.
Mark
On 6/19/07, John Toebes wrote:
>
> I'm in.. but the real question for me is being new to the group.. How
> would I recognize the crowd? -- John
> ---*
> *
> *John Toebes*
> *Chief Architect*
> *Media Solutions Group**
> *
> toebes at cisco.com
> Phone :*+1 919 392 7410*
> Mobile :*+1 919 622 2041*
> Fax :*+1 919 392 4709*
> *
> *
> 7025 Kit Creek Road
> RTP NC 27709
> www.cisco.com
>
>
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From pelargir at gmail.com Tue Jun 19 14:42:37 2007
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:42:37 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To:
References: <895F5F3C-3F86-4248-821D-4DB2C22BBEF1@cisco.com>
Message-ID:
You can always just shout out "Hey, where's the Ruby group?" :)
Seriously, we should be pretty easy to spot. I have red hair and will
be in cargo shorts and a gray button-up shirt.
Matthew
On 6/19/07, Mark Bennett wrote:
> Look for the glow of pasty skin ; - ) ...or a large group of men.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On 6/19/07, John Toebes wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm in.. but the real question for me is being new to the group.. How
> would I recognize the crowd?
> > -- John
> >
> >
> > ---
> >
> >
> > John Toebes
> > Chief Architect
> > Media Solutions Group
> >
> > toebes at cisco.com
> > Phone : +1 919 392 7410
> > Mobile : +1 919 622 2041
> > Fax : +1 919 392 4709
> >
> >
> > 7025 Kit Creek Road
> > RTP NC 27709
> > www.cisco.com
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
>
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From christopher.joakim at wachovia.com Tue Jun 19 15:18:59 2007
From: christopher.joakim at wachovia.com (christopher.joakim at wachovia.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:18:59 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
I'm in Charlotte, so I'll be having chow here. But I hope to attend one
of your raleigh.rb sessions in the future. See you at the Hoedown.
Chris Joakim
Shared Services - CRM Technology
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Charlotte Plaza 5
201 South College Street, Mail Code NC1025
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From devpotato at gmail.com Tue Jun 19 20:14:20 2007
From: devpotato at gmail.com (Kevin Smith)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:14:20 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
Message-ID: <3560cf6d0706191714v521a63e4m7327cf88b45fb003@mail.gmail.com>
I've been working my way thru PragProg's Erlang book, which is really
good BTW, and am pretty impressed with the language so far. Is anyone
else reading the book or otherwise interested in Erlang? If so, would
you be interested in getting together with other Erlangers (or would
that be Erlangr's in the post-Web 2.0 era)? Since Rubyists are known
to be cutting-edge tech types I thought I might find a few like minded
souls on this list.
If you're interested, reply back and we'll see about getting something
organized.
--Kevin
From ruby at bandkbroom.com Tue Jun 19 22:17:37 2007
From: ruby at bandkbroom.com (Brian Broom)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:17:37 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
In-Reply-To: <3560cf6d0706191714v521a63e4m7327cf88b45fb003@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3560cf6d0706191714v521a63e4m7327cf88b45fb003@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID:
I've been interested in trying something from the functional language group,
and have thought about taking a look at erlang, so I'd be interested.
Out of curiosity, does the prag book focus more on the concurrency aspect of
erlang, or the functional part?
On 6/19/07, Kevin Smith wrote:
>
> I've been working my way thru PragProg's Erlang book, which is really
> good BTW, and am pretty impressed with the language so far. Is anyone
> else reading the book or otherwise interested in Erlang? If so, would
> you be interested in getting together with other Erlangers (or would
> that be Erlangr's in the post-Web 2.0 era)? Since Rubyists are known
> to be cutting-edge tech types I thought I might find a few like minded
> souls on this list.
>
> If you're interested, reply back and we'll see about getting something
> organized.
>
> --Kevin
> _______________________________________________
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From lists-jared at nc.rr.com Tue Jun 19 23:14:07 2007
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 23:14:07 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Bob Martin at RailsConf
Message-ID: <1B6D980F-BE18-4DE7-B67C-857B8478FC5C@nc.rr.com>
This talk was discussed at tonight's meeting so I decided to send out
my quick blog summary of the talk... I started taking notes halfway
through the talk so it's missing a ton.
http://agileartisans.com/main/blog/9
and this picture sums up his energetic presentation style
http://www.flickr.com/photos/x180/503608084/in/set-72157600225783815/
Jared
http://AgileArtisans.com
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com Tue Jun 19 23:18:45 2007
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:18:45 -0700
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Apropos tonights remarks on public speaking.
Message-ID:
If anyone is interested in tips on presentation skills, I recently ran
across a blog by Guy Kawasaki, former Apple evangelist rock star.
Here's one of his postings from today.
Sent to you by Rick via Google Reader: Bite Your Tongue: Eight More
Ways To Improve Your Presentations via How to Change the World by
GuyKawasaki on Jun 19, 2007
There was such a positive response to the speaking tips of Doug
Lawrence (email) that I asked him for more stuff. Taking a cue from the
fact that "Bite your tongue" was the most popular tip, here are more:
- Warm-up with a towel. Singers often have to get their chops "up" in
their hotel rooms before leaving for rehearsals or performances. They
do this by screaming and yelling into a towel.
- Just say "Whoooo!" One of the best ways to get a voice ready to talk
or sing is to make a siren sound on "whoooo" from the lowest pitch you
can make to the highest and back again. Repeat it several times. This
obnoxious sound thins your vocal cords and makes them more supple for
easy speaking or singing.
- Flutter your lips. Blowing a pitch--any pitch--through your lips to
make them flutter will loosen up your articulators: the tongue, lips,
and throat muscles. When your voice is tired and husky, and you're
afraid you can't go on--give this a shot. It will work wonders.
- Eat light, eat protein. If you have to eat before a big presentation
(singers prefer going in lean and mean), eat stuff that gives you
energy, not a cheap high like carbs. Singers always party after the
show!
- Allocate three hours to wake up. Singers often take a nap in the
afternoon before they perform, but they always allow at least three
hours to get their brain and voice back. Getting to a wakeful state
takes a lot longer than just putting your clothes on.
- Skip the tea. Tea is an astringent and will close your voice down.
Drink hot water instead--it keeps your voice supple as a baby's cheeks
(either set).
- Leave your jaw out of it. If you use your jaw to speak, you will
exhaust your voice. Jaws don't sing, and they don't speak. Don't try to
over-form your words by chewing them because you'll be outrageously
tired within a few minutes. Use your articulators (tongue and teeth)
and leave your jaw for a nice meal after you speak.
- Don't overwhelm the audience. Be entertaining but use moments of
silence, soft speech, and slow cadence. Any performer will tell you the
trick to a really great performance is to make the audience come to
you. The more you go after them, the more you push them away. When
people watch Steve Jobs, they think they know what he's going to do,
but he titillates them until they can barely stand it and makes the
audience come crawling to him.
Things you can do from here:
- Visit the original item on How to Change the World
- Subscribe to How to Change the World using Google Reader
- Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your
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From devpotato at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 06:48:45 2007
From: devpotato at gmail.com (Kevin Smith)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 06:48:45 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
In-Reply-To:
References: <3560cf6d0706191714v521a63e4m7327cf88b45fb003@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3560cf6d0706200348n61d5cea2gc1addcada5ebdd3a@mail.gmail.com>
Both, I think. The first part of the book spends several chapters
covering what they term "sequential" programming. They illustrate
several of the functional aspects of Erlang like using the pattern
matching operator, single-assignment variables, and proper use of
tail-call recursion.
The second half of the book, which is the part I'm into right now,
covers the process api, using the OTP framework, and optimizing code
for multi-core machines.
--Kevin
On 6/19/07, Brian Broom wrote:
> I've been interested in trying something from the functional language group,
> and have thought about taking a look at erlang, so I'd be interested.
>
> Out of curiosity, does the prag book focus more on the concurrency aspect of
> erlang, or the functional part?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
From adam at thewilliams.ws Wed Jun 20 09:03:11 2007
From: adam at thewilliams.ws (Adam Williams)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:03:11 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
In-Reply-To: <3560cf6d0706191714v521a63e4m7327cf88b45fb003@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3560cf6d0706191714v521a63e4m7327cf88b45fb003@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID:
I am interested, and have purchased this book. I'd love the
accountability to read it/discuss it/build something with it. Care to
setup raleigh.beam?
On Jun 19, 2007, at 8:14 PM, Kevin Smith wrote:
> I've been working my way thru PragProg's Erlang book, which is really
> good BTW, and am pretty impressed with the language so far. Is anyone
> else reading the book or otherwise interested in Erlang? If so, would
> you be interested in getting together with other Erlangers (or would
> that be Erlangr's in the post-Web 2.0 era)? Since Rubyists are known
> to be cutting-edge tech types I thought I might find a few like minded
> souls on this list.
>
> If you're interested, reply back and we'll see about getting something
> organized.
>
> --Kevin
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
From nospam at tonyspencer.com Wed Jun 20 09:40:56 2007
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:40:56 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Multi subdomains on one rails app
Message-ID: <6B5A9FF3-9F27-4C69-AD97-0A2D1781706A@tonyspencer.com>
We are finishing up an app that will run multiple subdomains and even
a few different full domains on one rails app with one DB. We were
planning on using the request routing plugin (http://
weblog.rubyonrails.org/2006/5/22/dan-webbs-request-routing-plugin)
but the issue we are grappling with now is how to deal with caching.
In other words, each subdomain's homepage will be trying to write
cache to public/index.html. Ugggh.
Has anybody done this that can offer some advice?
From devpotato at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 09:48:12 2007
From: devpotato at gmail.com (Kevin Smith)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:48:12 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
In-Reply-To:
References: <3560cf6d0706191714v521a63e4m7327cf88b45fb003@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3560cf6d0706200648j67d02084y5bd62ddfb9eadd28@mail.gmail.com>
I was actually thinking of naming it erlounge RDU.
I got the inspiration from Pat Eyler's blog:
http://on-erlang.blogspot.com/2007/05/successful-provo-erlounge.html
On 6/20/07, Adam Williams wrote:
> I am interested, and have purchased this book. I'd love the
> accountability to read it/discuss it/build something with it. Care to
> setup raleigh.beam?
>
> On Jun 19, 2007, at 8:14 PM, Kevin Smith wrote:
>
> > I've been working my way thru PragProg's Erlang book, which is really
> > good BTW, and am pretty impressed with the language so far. Is anyone
> > else reading the book or otherwise interested in Erlang? If so, would
> > you be interested in getting together with other Erlangers (or would
> > that be Erlangr's in the post-Web 2.0 era)? Since Rubyists are known
> > to be cutting-edge tech types I thought I might find a few like minded
> > souls on this list.
> >
> > If you're interested, reply back and we'll see about getting something
> > organized.
> >
> > --Kevin
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
From adam at thewilliams.ws Wed Jun 20 10:02:20 2007
From: adam at thewilliams.ws (Adam Williams)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:02:20 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
In-Reply-To: <3560cf6d0706200648j67d02084y5bd62ddfb9eadd28@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3560cf6d0706191714v521a63e4m7327cf88b45fb003@mail.gmail.com>
<3560cf6d0706200648j67d02084y5bd62ddfb9eadd28@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9FEC81CB-F99D-4FEE-8AEE-D35686B41793@thewilliams.ws>
On Jun 20, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Kevin Smith wrote:
> I was actually thinking of naming it erlounge RDU.
I like that.
My interest is in concurrency and functional programming. I have not
read the book yet - time is shorter than normal. I can hardly wait to
understand why the code (http://www.erlang.org/examples/
small_examples/webput.erl) is so ugly ;)
adam
From brenton.leanhardt at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 11:46:02 2007
From: brenton.leanhardt at gmail.com (brenton leanhardt)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:46:02 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
In-Reply-To: <9FEC81CB-F99D-4FEE-8AEE-D35686B41793@thewilliams.ws>
References: <3560cf6d0706191714v521a63e4m7327cf88b45fb003@mail.gmail.com>
<3560cf6d0706200648j67d02084y5bd62ddfb9eadd28@mail.gmail.com>
<9FEC81CB-F99D-4FEE-8AEE-D35686B41793@thewilliams.ws>
Message-ID: <7c0835400706200846j2097ddf1u8a0ee3b8badcffd4@mail.gmail.com>
I'd be interested in an Erlang meetup. It's been on my radar ever since I
started hacking with tsung (http://tsung.erlang-projects.org/) a few weeks
ago. As of yet I've only went through the tutorials on the main Erlang
site.
On 6/20/07, Adam Williams wrote:
>
> On Jun 20, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Kevin Smith wrote:
>
> > I was actually thinking of naming it erlounge RDU.
>
> I like that.
>
> My interest is in concurrency and functional programming. I have not
> read the book yet - time is shorter than normal. I can hardly wait to
> understand why the code (http://www.erlang.org/examples/
> small_examples/webput.erl) is so ugly ;)
>
> adam
> _______________________________________________
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From ruby at bandkbroom.com Wed Jun 20 12:36:12 2007
From: ruby at bandkbroom.com (Brian Broom)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:36:12 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
In-Reply-To: <7c0835400706200846j2097ddf1u8a0ee3b8badcffd4@mail.gmail.com>
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Some ideas I had...
1. Some type of face-to-face thing meeting (where/when would be the hard
part) and round robin present what we each thought was interesting
2. A class like reading of the Prag book, and maybe we could come up with
short assignments and/or projects.
3. It should be fairly easy to setup a group blog on wordpress (or
something else), which might be interesting, especially if anyone else is a
"writing helps me learn" kind of person.
Brian
On 6/20/07, brenton leanhardt wrote:
>
> I'd be interested in an Erlang meetup. It's been on my radar ever since I
> started hacking with tsung (http://tsung.erlang-projects.org/) a few weeks
> ago. As of yet I've only went through the tutorials on the main Erlang
> site.
>
> On 6/20/07, Adam Williams wrote:
> >
> > On Jun 20, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Kevin Smith wrote:
> >
> > > I was actually thinking of naming it erlounge RDU.
> >
> > I like that.
> >
> > My interest is in concurrency and functional programming. I have not
> > read the book yet - time is shorter than normal. I can hardly wait to
> > understand why the code (http://www.erlang.org/examples/
> > small_examples/webput.erl) is so ugly ;)
> >
> > adam
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From ruby at bandkbroom.com Wed Jun 20 12:42:21 2007
From: ruby at bandkbroom.com (Brian Broom)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:42:21 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] New Ruby blog
Message-ID:
I started a ruby blog focused on the things I'm doing with ruby in my
research (numerical analysis/simulation). There is not likely to be any
rails content, so I'm not expecting it to be of interest to a large number
of people, but if you ever get tired of 'the only thing ruby is good for is
rails' comments, feel free to point people here :)
http://numericalruby.com/
I've got a posts on C extensions, rake, and a (very) simple little template
system I wrote to handle some scripting tasks.
Brian
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From devpotato at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 12:43:37 2007
From: devpotato at gmail.com (Kevin Smith)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:43:37 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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So I think we've got enough interest to start planning this. What time
of the month would work for everyone? 3rd is out since that's
raleigh.rb. Also, any preference on where? I was thinking somewhere on
the quiet and smallish side (coffee shop or the like) until if/when
the group gets bigger.
If we can nail down the when and where, I'll put up a meetup page.
--Kevin
On 6/20/07, brenton leanhardt wrote:
> I'd be interested in an Erlang meetup. It's been on my radar ever since I
> started hacking with tsung
> (http://tsung.erlang-projects.org/) a few weeks ago. As of
> yet I've only went through the tutorials on the main Erlang site.
>
> On 6/20/07, Adam Williams wrote:
> > On Jun 20, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Kevin Smith wrote:
> >
> > > I was actually thinking of naming it erlounge RDU.
> >
> > I like that.
> >
> > My interest is in concurrency and functional programming. I have not
> > read the book yet - time is shorter than normal. I can hardly wait to
> > understand why the code (http://www.erlang.org/examples/
> > small_examples/webput.erl) is so ugly ;)
> >
> > adam
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
From tj at stank.us Wed Jun 20 12:47:30 2007
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:47:30 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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I know Ericsson used to have a large presence in RTP. I don't know if
that's the case any longer, or even if it is, if there's anyone there
using Erlang. But it might be a resource worth investigating.
-TJ
From nathaniel at talbott.ws Wed Jun 20 12:55:01 2007
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:55:01 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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On 6/20/07, Brian Broom wrote:
> Some ideas I had...
BTW, as you guys get further along, I'd *love* to have someone do an
Erlang presentation at a Raleigh.rb meeting.
Also, there's no requirement that you have to hack Ruby code at Hack
Night... ;-)
--
Nathaniel Talbott
<
From pelargir at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 13:00:24 2007
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:00:24 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Apropos tonights remarks on public speaking.
In-Reply-To:
References:
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Awesome, Rick. I'll also share Alan Hoffler's blog URL (the guy who
will be speaking next month):
http://millswyck.com/blog/
Alan makes pretty regular posts. Enjoy!
Matthew
On 6/19/07, Rick wrote:
> If anyone is interested in tips on presentation skills, I recently ran
> across a blog by Guy Kawasaki, former Apple evangelist rock star. Here's one
> of his postings from today.
>
>
>
>
> Sent to you by Rick via Google Reader:
>
>
> Bite Your Tongue: Eight More Ways To Improve Your Presentations
> via How to Change the World by GuyKawasaki on Jun 19, 2007
>
>
>
> There was such a positive response to the speaking tips of Doug Lawrence
> (email) that I asked him for more stuff. Taking a cue from the fact that
> "Bite your tongue" was the most popular tip, here are more:
>
>
>
> Warm-up with a towel. Singers often have to get their chops "up" in their
> hotel rooms before leaving for rehearsals or performances. They do this by
> screaming and yelling into a towel.
>
>
> Just say "Whoooo!" One of the best ways to get a voice ready to talk or sing
> is to make a siren sound on "whoooo" from the lowest pitch you can make to
> the highest and back again. Repeat it several times. This obnoxious sound
> thins your vocal cords and makes them more supple for easy speaking or
> singing.
>
>
> Flutter your lips. Blowing a pitch--any pitch--through your lips to make
> them flutter will loosen up your articulators: the tongue, lips, and throat
> muscles. When your voice is tired and husky, and you're afraid you can't go
> on--give this a shot. It will work wonders.
>
>
> Eat light, eat protein. If you have to eat before a big presentation
> (singers prefer going in lean and mean), eat stuff that gives you energy,
> not a cheap high like carbs. Singers always party after the show!
>
>
> Allocate three hours to wake up. Singers often take a nap in the afternoon
> before they perform, but they always allow at least three hours to get their
> brain and voice back. Getting to a wakeful state takes a lot longer than
> just putting your clothes on.
>
>
> Skip the tea. Tea is an astringent and will close your voice down. Drink hot
> water instead--it keeps your voice supple as a baby's cheeks (either set).
>
>
> Leave your jaw out of it. If you use your jaw to speak, you will exhaust
> your voice. Jaws don't sing, and they don't speak. Don't try to over-form
> your words by chewing them because you'll be outrageously tired within a few
> minutes. Use your articulators (tongue and teeth) and leave your jaw for a
> nice meal after you speak.
>
>
> Don't overwhelm the audience. Be entertaining but use moments of silence,
> soft speech, and slow cadence. Any performer will tell you the trick to a
> really great performance is to make the audience come to you. The more you
> go after them, the more you push them away. When people watch Steve Jobs,
> they think they know what he's going to do, but he titillates them until
> they can barely stand it and makes the audience come crawling to him.
>
>
>
>
>
> Things you can do from here:
> Visit the original item on How to Change the World
> Subscribe to How to Change the World using Google Reader
> Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your favorite
> sites
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>
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From pelargir at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 13:02:49 2007
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:02:49 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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A location on the north side of town is always preferable for me. But
I'm willing to drive at least as far as I do to raleigh.rb to enjoy
some Erlang hackery.
Matthew
From devpotato at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 13:05:07 2007
From: devpotato at gmail.com (Kevin Smith)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:05:07 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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Good point! I never thought of it like that. I see more Hack Nights in
my future....
--Kevin
On 6/20/07, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:
> On 6/20/07, Brian Broom wrote:
> > Some ideas I had...
>
> BTW, as you guys get further along, I'd *love* to have someone do an
> Erlang presentation at a Raleigh.rb meeting.
>
> Also, there's no requirement that you have to hack Ruby code at Hack
> Night... ;-)
>
>
> --
> Nathaniel Talbott
> <
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
From adam at thewilliams.ws Wed Jun 20 13:05:41 2007
From: adam at thewilliams.ws (Adam Williams)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:05:41 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] New Ruby blog
In-Reply-To:
References:
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On Jun 20, 2007, at 12:42 PM, Brian Broom wrote:
> I started a ruby blog focused on the things I'm doing with ruby in
> my research (numerical analysis/simulation). There is not likely
> to be any rails content, so I'm not expecting it to be of interest
> to a large number of people, but if you ever get tired of 'the only
> thing ruby is good for is rails' comments, feel free to point
> people here :)
>
> http://numericalruby.com/
Excellent. It is good to see folks using it outside of the HTML/
JavaScript generation domain.
aiwilliams
From devpotato at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 15:39:30 2007
From: devpotato at gmail.com (Kevin Smith)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:39:30 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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How does the 2nd Thursday of the month work for everyone?
On 6/20/07, Kevin Smith wrote:
> Good point! I never thought of it like that. I see more Hack Nights in
> my future....
>
> --Kevin
>
> On 6/20/07, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:
> > On 6/20/07, Brian Broom wrote:
> > > Some ideas I had...
> >
> > BTW, as you guys get further along, I'd *love* to have someone do an
> > Erlang presentation at a Raleigh.rb meeting.
> >
> > Also, there's no requirement that you have to hack Ruby code at Hack
> > Night... ;-)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nathaniel Talbott
> > <
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
From lists-jared at nc.rr.com Wed Jun 20 15:57:48 2007
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:57:48 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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U-R-Killin Me!
Between the bagelly questions of life and the new user groups...
Keep it up! ;)
I'm not sure I can fit another group in, but I'll try.
On Jun 20, 2007, at 3:39 PM |Jun/20, Kevin Smith wrote:
> How does the 2nd Thursday of the month work for everyone?
>
> On 6/20/07, Kevin Smith wrote:
>> Good point! I never thought of it like that. I see more Hack
>> Nights in
>> my future....
>>
>> --Kevin
>>
>> On 6/20/07, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:
>>> On 6/20/07, Brian Broom wrote:
>>>> Some ideas I had...
>>>
>>> BTW, as you guys get further along, I'd *love* to have someone do an
>>> Erlang presentation at a Raleigh.rb meeting.
>>>
>>> Also, there's no requirement that you have to hack Ruby code at Hack
>>> Night... ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Nathaniel Talbott
>>> <
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
From lists-jared at nc.rr.com Wed Jun 20 16:01:30 2007
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:01:30 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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I meant to send that just to Kevin... sorry all!
Jared
http://AgileArtisans.com
On Jun 20, 2007, at 3:57 PM |Jun/20, Jared Richardson wrote:
> U-R-Killin Me!
>
> Between the bagelly questions of life and the new user groups...
>
> Keep it up! ;)
>
> I'm not sure I can fit another group in, but I'll try.
>
>
> On Jun 20, 2007, at 3:39 PM |Jun/20, Kevin Smith wrote:
>
>> How does the 2nd Thursday of the month work for everyone?
>>
>> On 6/20/07, Kevin Smith wrote:
>>> Good point! I never thought of it like that. I see more Hack
>>> Nights in
>>> my future....
>>>
>>> --Kevin
>>>
>>> On 6/20/07, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:
>>>> On 6/20/07, Brian Broom wrote:
>>>>> Some ideas I had...
>>>>
>>>> BTW, as you guys get further along, I'd *love* to have someone
>>>> do an
>>>> Erlang presentation at a Raleigh.rb meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Also, there's no requirement that you have to hack Ruby code at
>>>> Hack
>>>> Night... ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Nathaniel Talbott
>>>> <
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>>>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
> _______________________________________________
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
From ruby at bandkbroom.com Wed Jun 20 16:04:10 2007
From: ruby at bandkbroom.com (Brian Broom)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:04:10 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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Mmmmm, bagels.....
On 6/20/07, Jared Richardson wrote:
>
> I meant to send that just to Kevin... sorry all!
>
> Jared
> http://AgileArtisans.com
>
>
>
> On Jun 20, 2007, at 3:57 PM |Jun/20, Jared Richardson wrote:
>
> > U-R-Killin Me!
> >
> > Between the bagelly questions of life and the new user groups...
> >
> > Keep it up! ;)
> >
> > I'm not sure I can fit another group in, but I'll try.
> >
> >
> > On Jun 20, 2007, at 3:39 PM |Jun/20, Kevin Smith wrote:
> >
> >> How does the 2nd Thursday of the month work for everyone?
> >>
> >> On 6/20/07, Kevin Smith wrote:
> >>> Good point! I never thought of it like that. I see more Hack
> >>> Nights in
> >>> my future....
> >>>
> >>> --Kevin
> >>>
> >>> On 6/20/07, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:
> >>>> On 6/20/07, Brian Broom wrote:
> >>>>> Some ideas I had...
> >>>>
> >>>> BTW, as you guys get further along, I'd *love* to have someone
> >>>> do an
> >>>> Erlang presentation at a Raleigh.rb meeting.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, there's no requirement that you have to hack Ruby code at
> >>>> Hack
> >>>> Night... ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Nathaniel Talbott
> >>>> <
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> >>>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> >>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> >> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
> _______________________________________________
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From lists-jared at nc.rr.com Wed Jun 20 16:09:30 2007
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:09:30 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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Here's some context. :)
http://weblog.hypotheticalabs.com/?p=97
Just something to make you think....
On Jun 20, 2007, at 4:04 PM |Jun/20, Brian Broom wrote:
> Mmmmm, bagels.....
>
> On 6/20/07, Jared Richardson wrote:
> I meant to send that just to Kevin... sorry all!
>
> Jared
> http://AgileArtisans.com
>
>
>
> On Jun 20, 2007, at 3:57 PM |Jun/20, Jared Richardson wrote:
>
> > U-R-Killin Me!
> >
> > Between the bagelly questions of life and the new user groups...
> >
> > Keep it up! ;)
> >
> > I'm not sure I can fit another group in, but I'll try.
> >
> >
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From adam at thewilliams.ws Wed Jun 20 16:14:33 2007
From: adam at thewilliams.ws (Adam Williams)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:14:33 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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On Jun 20, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Jared Richardson wrote:
> Here's some context. :)
>
> http://weblog.hypotheticalabs.com/?p=97
>
> Just something to make you think....
Deep thoughts. Must be a concurrency thing...
From brenton.leanhardt at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 08:33:15 2007
From: brenton.leanhardt at gmail.com (brenton leanhardt)
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 08:33:15 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Mountain West Ruby Conf videos
Message-ID: <7c0835400706210533n31713ea2nd4f3c400faed7c7d@mail.gmail.com>
Like I said last Tuesday, I spent a weekend of my life geeking it up and
watching the MWRC videos (http://mtnwestrubyconf2007.confreaks.com/).
Here's what I found the most useful:
Ruby Queue: This talk was immediately helpful to me. I had been working on
a clustering solution for distributing selenium tests. While I had
everything working I was more than happy to toss it aside after half an hour
with with RQ. Basically, it was exactly what I was doing except it has been
baked (with our tax dollars) for several years.
Ruby Implementer's Panel: If you haven't been keeping up with all of the
Ruby implementation projects this would be a great one to watch. Though it
doesn't feature YARV directly it's still a great 'state of the union'
address for the implementation community.
Black-boxing with Ruby: You will probably find James' example in this talk
a horrible hack but it will inspire you to strive for better automation in
your day to day life. The talk ranges from using Mechanize to write CLIs
for lame websites to using Wordpress as a 'filesystem'.
On a side note, any chance of the Ruby Hoedown sessions being filmed?
--Brenton
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From bhansley at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 09:19:30 2007
From: bhansley at gmail.com (Bill Hansley)
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 09:19:30 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails and Oracle weirdness
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Hi all,
I'm trying to put together a quickie front-end for a maintenance task that
has to be done on a legacy Oracle database. In particular, putting a date
criteria in my conditions clause causes rails not to return any rows, ever,
even when the same where clause works fine elsewhere.
Ever seen anything like this?
In rails (either script/console or from my controller call), no records get
returned.No error messages, it just doesn't return anything.
script/console
Loading development environment.
>> Followup.find(:all, :conditions => "group_id = 3 AND trunc(time_stp) =
'07JAN2007'")
=> []
>>
Development log looks fine. In fact, this sql works great in sqlplus. Rails
just isn't getting anything back.
Followup Load (0.124121) SELECT * FROM followup WHERE (group_id = 3 AND
trunc(time_stp) = '07JAN2007')
In IRB (and sql plus) things work like I'd expect:
irb(main):005:0> OCI8.new("myuser", "mypwd", "myinstance").exec(" SELECT *
FROM followup where group_id = 3 AND trunc(time_stp) = '07JAN2007'") do |r|
puts r.join(","); end
503252,503251,3,5449,2007/01/07 02:04:06,,
503255,503254,3,8026,2007/01/07 02:06:06,,
503355,503354,3,214938,2007/01/07 19:05:16,,
503359,503357,3,503358,2007/01/07 19:06:56,,
503313,503311,3,503312,2007/01/07 15:07:50,,
503315,503161,3,503314,2007/01/07 15:08:35,,
=> 6
The problem, whatever it is, is related to the date part of the comparison.
If I take the date bits out, then rails makes the call just fine.
Any and all help appreciated!
Thanks!
-Bill
--
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From nospam at tonyspencer.com Thu Jun 21 11:08:09 2007
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:08:09 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Issue tracking poll: What do you like?
Message-ID: <5C101857-3A98-451B-B4FD-D6288D880E95@tonyspencer.com>
We've been using Basecamp for some time now to manage multiple
projects and I have really enjoyed it *except* for the lack of
integrated issue/bug tracking. I've tried hacking to-do lists and
categorizing messages but I just can't make Basecamp work for our
issue tracking even though I don't need fancy features. I just want
to rapidly log/assign issues to team members, change status, and
reassign back to me when the issue is completed.
For years I've been using Mantis and it works but its quirky and
rather slow to work with as the interface isn't designed all too
well. I've just signed up for Lighthouse and we'll see how that goes.
So what do you use?
From adam at thewilliams.ws Thu Jun 21 11:21:29 2007
From: adam at thewilliams.ws (Adam Williams)
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:21:29 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Issue tracking poll: What do you like?
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On Jun 21, 2007, at 11:08 AM, Tony Spencer wrote:
> We've been using Basecamp for some time now to manage multiple
> projects and I have really enjoyed it *except* for the lack of
> integrated issue/bug tracking. I've tried hacking to-do lists and
> categorizing messages but I just can't make Basecamp work for our
> issue tracking even though I don't need fancy features. I just want
> to rapidly log/assign issues to team members, change status, and
> reassign back to me when the issue is completed.
>
> For years I've been using Mantis and it works but its quirky and
> rather slow to work with as the interface isn't designed all too
> well. I've just signed up for Lighthouse and we'll see how that goes.
>
> So what do you use?
I am strongly encouraged to use Basecamp, and feel I don't really
have a choice. I think it only works okay, but I can imagine
scenarios where having a better record of things, workflow, etc.
would be nice. I'd like to hear how your Lighthouse experience goes.
I, too, want light weight, but I suppose having these things attached
to the rest of a project's communications is what makes Basecamp the
'in' way to do it.
regards, aiwilliams
From devpotato at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 14:36:31 2007
From: devpotato at gmail.com (Kevin Smith)
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:36:31 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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I'm planning on getting the meetup page setup later today. I haven't
heard any dissenting opinions so I'm assuming 2nd Thursday of the
month is works for everyone. Let me know soon if this won't work for
you.
As for locations, I'm considering three potential places:
1) Helios Coffee - Not sure about their hours
2) New World Cafe @ Pleasant Valley
3) Panera @ North Hills
Does anyone feel strongly one way or the other about any of these? Any
other place suggestions?
--Kevin
On 6/20/07, Kevin Smith wrote:
> So I think we've got enough interest to start planning this. What time
> of the month would work for everyone? 3rd is out since that's
> raleigh.rb. Also, any preference on where? I was thinking somewhere on
> the quiet and smallish side (coffee shop or the like) until if/when
> the group gets bigger.
>
> If we can nail down the when and where, I'll put up a meetup page.
>
> --Kevin
From ryan.daigle at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 15:49:55 2007
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:49:55 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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I'm partial to somewhere kind of in between Cary and Raleigh as I think we
have a lot of Cary-ites here.
Let the flood of Durham and North Raleigh people now chime in...
-Ryan
On 6/21/07, Kevin Smith wrote:
>
> I'm planning on getting the meetup page setup later today. I haven't
> heard any dissenting opinions so I'm assuming 2nd Thursday of the
> month is works for everyone. Let me know soon if this won't work for
> you.
>
> As for locations, I'm considering three potential places:
>
> 1) Helios Coffee - Not sure about their hours
>
> 2) New World Cafe @ Pleasant Valley
>
> 3) Panera @ North Hills
>
> Does anyone feel strongly one way or the other about any of these? Any
> other place suggestions?
>
> --Kevin
>
> On 6/20/07, Kevin Smith wrote:
> > So I think we've got enough interest to start planning this. What time
> > of the month would work for everyone? 3rd is out since that's
> > raleigh.rb. Also, any preference on where? I was thinking somewhere on
> > the quiet and smallish side (coffee shop or the like) until if/when
> > the group gets bigger.
> >
> > If we can nail down the when and where, I'll put up a meetup page.
> >
> > --Kevin
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From chris at gstaff.org Thu Jun 21 15:59:19 2007
From: chris at gstaff.org (Chris Grindstaff)
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:59:19 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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Thursday, June 21, 2007, 3:49:55 PM, you wrote:
RD> I'm partial to somewhere kind of in between Cary and Raleigh as I think we
RD> have a lot of Cary-ites here.
RD> Let the flood of Durham and North Raleigh people now chime in...
North Raleigh +1
--
Chris Grindstaff | http://gstaff.org
From adam at thewilliams.ws Thu Jun 21 16:01:20 2007
From: adam at thewilliams.ws (Adam Williams)
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:01:20 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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On Jun 21, 2007, at 3:49 PM, Ryan Daigle wrote:
> I'm partial to somewhere kind of in between Cary and Raleigh as I
> think we have a lot of Cary-ites here.
+1
aiwilliams
From pelargir at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 16:04:00 2007
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew)
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:04:00 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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+1 :)
On 6/21/07, Adam Williams wrote:
> On Jun 21, 2007, at 3:49 PM, Ryan Daigle wrote:
>
> > I'm partial to somewhere kind of in between Cary and Raleigh as I
> > think we have a lot of Cary-ites here.
>
> +1
>
> aiwilliams
>
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From pelargir at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 16:29:38 2007
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew)
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:29:38 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails and Oracle weirdness
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Bill, it definitely looks like a problem with your query conditions.
If AR can't find any items matching your query criteria, it returns an
empty array.
You seem to have narrowed it down to your date comparison. I'm not
familiar with how Oracle handles dates, but in MySQL a specific
function (DATE) has to be called on a date before comparing it. I'd
keep tweaking the date comparison to see if that helps.
Perhaps someone else with more Oracle experience can suggest what the
correct syntax might look like.
Matthew
On 6/21/07, Bill Hansley wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm trying to put together a quickie front-end for a maintenance task that
> has to be done on a legacy Oracle database. In particular, putting a date
> criteria in my conditions clause causes rails not to return any rows, ever,
> even when the same where clause works fine elsewhere.
>
> Ever seen anything like this?
>
>
> In rails (either script/console or from my controller call), no records get
> returned.No error messages, it just doesn't return anything.
>
> script/console
> Loading development environment.
> >> Followup.find(:all, :conditions => "group_id = 3 AND trunc(time_stp) =
> '07JAN2007'")
> => []
> >>
>
> Development log looks fine. In fact, this sql works great in sqlplus. Rails
> just isn't getting anything back.
>
> Followup Load (0.124121) SELECT * FROM followup WHERE (group_id = 3 AND
> trunc(time_stp) = '07JAN2007')
>
>
>
>
> In IRB (and sql plus) things work like I'd expect:
>
> irb(main):005:0> OCI8.new("myuser", "mypwd", "myinstance").exec(" SELECT *
> FROM followup where group_id = 3 AND trunc(time_stp) = '07JAN2007'") do |r|
> puts r.join(","); end
> 503252,503251,3,5449,2007/01/07 02:04:06,,
> 503255,503254,3,8026,2007/01/07 02:06:06,,
> 503355,503354,3,214938,2007/01/07 19:05:16,,
> 503359,503357,3,503358,2007/01/07 19:06:56,,
> 503313,503311,3,503312,2007/01/07 15:07:50,,
> 503315,503161,3,503314,2007/01/07 15:08:35,,
> => 6
>
>
> The problem, whatever it is, is related to the date part of the comparison.
> If I take the date bits out, then rails makes the call just fine.
>
> Any and all help appreciated!
>
> Thanks!
> -Bill
>
> --
> ---------------------------------------------
> Read Bill's latest ramblings at
> http://schoolboyheart.blogspot.com/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
From devpotato at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 20:13:41 2007
From: devpotato at gmail.com (Kevin Smith)
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:13:41 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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<9FEC81CB-F99D-4FEE-8AEE-D35686B41793@thewilliams.ws>
<7c0835400706200846j2097ddf1u8a0ee3b8badcffd4@mail.gmail.com>
<3560cf6d0706200943m4005864bmb6fbba97e5a4ec2e@mail.gmail.com>
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So, can one of ya'll suggest a good meeting spot? I'm not familiar with Cary.
--Kevin
On 6/21/07, Matthew wrote:
> +1 :)
>
> On 6/21/07, Adam Williams wrote:
> > On Jun 21, 2007, at 3:49 PM, Ryan Daigle wrote:
> >
> > > I'm partial to somewhere kind of in between Cary and Raleigh as I
> > > think we have a lot of Cary-ites here.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > aiwilliams
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
> _______________________________________________
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>
From ryan.daigle at gmail.com Thu Jun 21 21:07:21 2007
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:07:21 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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I'm seeing a Panera near Crossroads, right off the highway:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&q=panera&near=Raleigh,+NC&fb=1&ie=UTF8&ll=35.752642,-78.740387&spn=0.084423,0.145569&z=13&om=1
We can totally make this democratic though...
On 6/21/07, Kevin Smith wrote:
>
> So, can one of ya'll suggest a good meeting spot? I'm not familiar with
> Cary.
>
> --Kevin
>
> On 6/21/07, Matthew wrote:
> > +1 :)
> >
> > On 6/21/07, Adam Williams wrote:
> > > On Jun 21, 2007, at 3:49 PM, Ryan Daigle wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm partial to somewhere kind of in between Cary and Raleigh as I
> > > > think we have a lot of Cary-ites here.
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > aiwilliams
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> > >
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From pmuellr at yahoo.com Fri Jun 22 09:20:54 2007
From: pmuellr at yahoo.com (Patrick Mueller)
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:20:54 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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I'll give that a big +1; fairly close to me.
Another thought is the place the Raleigh Blogger's meetup has been
meeting: Raleigh Times bar. After 7 or so the place gets fairly
empty-ish. On the other hand, the blogger's meetup rarely has more
than 5 people in attendance.
More info here; if you're interested in following the Raleigh
Blogger's meetup, make sure you subscribe to the BlogTogether ML, as
that's where future meeting notices are placed
http://joshstaiger.org/raleighbloggers/index.php?title=Main_Page
Patrick Mueller
http://muellerware.org/
On Jun 21, 2007, at 9:07 PM, Ryan Daigle wrote:
> I'm seeing a Panera near Crossroads, right off the highway:
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-
> a&q=panera&near=Raleigh,
> +NC&fb=1&ie=UTF8&ll=35.752642,-78.740387&spn=0.084423,0.145569&z=13&om
> =1
>
> We can totally make this democratic though...
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com Fri Jun 22 09:34:41 2007
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:34:41 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails and Oracle weirdness
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On 6/21/07, Bill Hansley wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm trying to put together a quickie front-end for a maintenance task that
> has to be done on a legacy Oracle database. In particular, putting a date
> criteria in my conditions clause causes rails not to return any rows, ever,
> even when the same where clause works fine elsewhere.
What's the declaration of time_stp in your Oracle DB schema?
Apparently Oracle doesn't have separate data and timestamp datatypes.
Here's some commentary from
lib/activerecord/connection_adapters/oracle_adapter.rb from active
record 1.15.3
# * Oracle uses DATE or TIMESTAMP datatypes for both dates and times.
# Consequently some hacks are employed to map data back to Date or Time
# in Ruby. If the column_name ends in _time it's created as a Ruby Time.
# Else if the hours/minutes/seconds are 0, I make it a Ruby Date. Else
# it's a Ruby Time. This is a bit nasty - but if you use Duck Typing
# you'll probably not care very much. In 9i and up it's tempting to
# map DATE to Date and TIMESTAMP to Time, but too many databases use
# DATE for both. Timezones and sub-second precision on timestamps are
# not supported.
If the AR Oracle adapter needs to do this for its SQL, I guess you need to
do something along these lines for your hand generated sql code as well.
Note also that the connection adapter hacks will only work for columns
whose names END in '_time'
--
Rick DeNatale
My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
From rick.denatale at gmail.com Fri Jun 22 09:39:43 2007
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:39:43 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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On 6/20/07, Jared Richardson wrote:
>
> I'm not sure I can fit another group in, but I'll try.
I thought that one of the main draws of erlang was that it let you do
things in parallel!
--
Rick DeNatale
My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
From rick.denatale at gmail.com Fri Jun 22 09:43:38 2007
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:43:38 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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On 6/20/07, Jared Richardson wrote:
> Here's some context. :)
>
> http://weblog.hypotheticalabs.com/?p=97
>
> Just something to make you think....
The obvious reason to carry the bagel halves side-by-side is that if
you like LOTS of cream cheese, it gets all sloppy and oozes out when
you try to eat the bagel after it's been re-assembled.
I always eat more cream cheese when I buy bagels and cream cheese from
Brueggers and make them side-by-side at home than when I let them make
those bagel/cream cheese 'sandwiches' at the store. I need a bit more
than two of their cream cheese tubs to service a baker's dozen bagels.
--
Rick
From devpotato at gmail.com Fri Jun 22 13:13:32 2007
From: devpotato at gmail.com (Kevin Smith)
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:13:32 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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On 6/21/07, Jared Richardson wrote:
> I've often thought the Carolina Cafe (near SAS) would be good for
> this sort of group... it's lightly populated in the evening and
> fairly central.
This works for me. I hate driving around Crossroads just enough to
avoid it whenever possible :)
So, to recap, 2nd Thursday at the Carolina Cafe in the Arboretum
Shopping Center on Harrison.
I'll get the meetup page done today.
--Kevin
From devpotato at gmail.com Fri Jun 22 13:53:13 2007
From: devpotato at gmail.com (Kevin Smith)
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:53:13 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang anyone?
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On 6/22/07, Kevin Smith wrote:
> On 6/21/07, Jared Richardson wrote:
> > I've often thought the Carolina Cafe (near SAS) would be good for
> > this sort of group... it's lightly populated in the evening and
> > fairly central.
>
>
>
> This works for me. I hate driving around Crossroads just enough to
> avoid it whenever possible :)
>
> So, to recap, 2nd Thursday at the Carolina Cafe in the Arboretum
> Shopping Center on Harrison.
>
> I'll get the meetup page done today.
>
> --Kevin
>
I've got the group setup on Meetup. Right now its main topic is "Ruby"
since Meetup's lame interface won't let me specify one which isn't
already in their database (kinda begs the question).
Meetup is scheduled for 7:00 PM on 7/12, so RSVP away...
--Kevin
From bhansley at gmail.com Fri Jun 22 15:05:10 2007
From: bhansley at gmail.com (Bill Hansley)
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:05:10 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails and Oracle weirdness
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Hey,
time_stp is just an Oracle date field, which, as you know is combined
date/time info.
Where this confuses me is that AR generates the right sql - it's in the
development.log. If I grab and run that sql it runs fine and returns what I
expect.
If I take the entire statement and put it in a find_by_sql, it does the
exact same thing. No rows returned, and no errors.
>From what I understand, the oracle_adapter shouldn't really be getting in
the way - especially with the find_by_sql, so the way the o_a interprets
dates shouldn't be coming in to play. I'm going to trace through the o_a
and ar code this weekend to see if I can find rhyme or reason to this.
Still baffled,
-Bill
On 6/22/07, Rick DeNatale wrote:
>
> On 6/21/07, Bill Hansley wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm trying to put together a quickie front-end for a maintenance task
> that
> > has to be done on a legacy Oracle database. In particular, putting a
> date
> > criteria in my conditions clause causes rails not to return any rows,
> ever,
> > even when the same where clause works fine elsewhere.
>
> What's the declaration of time_stp in your Oracle DB schema?
>
> Apparently Oracle doesn't have separate data and timestamp datatypes.
>
> Here's some commentary from
> lib/activerecord/connection_adapters/oracle_adapter.rb from active
> record 1.15.3
>
> # * Oracle uses DATE or TIMESTAMP datatypes for both dates and
> times.
> # Consequently some hacks are employed to map data back to Date or
> Time
> # in Ruby. If the column_name ends in _time it's created as a Ruby
> Time.
> # Else if the hours/minutes/seconds are 0, I make it a Ruby Date.
> Else
> # it's a Ruby Time. This is a bit nasty - but if you use Duck
> Typing
> # you'll probably not care very much. In 9i and up it's tempting
> to
> # map DATE to Date and TIMESTAMP to Time, but too many databases
> use
> # DATE for both. Timezones and sub-second precision on timestamps
> are
> # not supported.
>
> If the AR Oracle adapter needs to do this for its SQL, I guess you need to
> do something along these lines for your hand generated sql code as well.
>
> Note also that the connection adapter hacks will only work for columns
> whose names END in '_time'
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> My blog on Ruby
> http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
--
---------------------------------------------
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From ruby at bandkbroom.com Fri Jun 22 15:17:31 2007
From: ruby at bandkbroom.com (Brian Broom)
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:17:31 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails and Oracle weirdness
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Just a goofy idea, but do you have access to the database logs so you can
see what query is actually making it to the database?
Brian
On 6/22/07, Bill Hansley wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> time_stp is just an Oracle date field, which, as you know is combined
> date/time info.
>
> Where this confuses me is that AR generates the right sql - it's in the
> development.log. If I grab and run that sql it runs fine and returns what
> I expect.
>
> If I take the entire statement and put it in a find_by_sql, it does the
> exact same thing. No rows returned, and no errors.
>
> From what I understand, the oracle_adapter shouldn't really be getting in
> the way - especially with the find_by_sql, so the way the o_a interprets
> dates shouldn't be coming in to play. I'm going to trace through the o_a
> and ar code this weekend to see if I can find rhyme or reason to this.
>
> Still baffled,
> -Bill
>
> On 6/22/07, Rick DeNatale wrote:
> >
> > On 6/21/07, Bill Hansley wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I'm trying to put together a quickie front-end for a maintenance task
> > that
> > > has to be done on a legacy Oracle database. In particular, putting a
> > date
> > > criteria in my conditions clause causes rails not to return any rows,
> > ever,
> > > even when the same where clause works fine elsewhere.
> >
> > What's the declaration of time_stp in your Oracle DB schema?
> >
> > Apparently Oracle doesn't have separate data and timestamp datatypes.
> >
> > Here's some commentary from
> > lib/activerecord/connection_adapters/oracle_adapter.rb from active
> > record 1.15.3
> >
> > # * Oracle uses DATE or TIMESTAMP datatypes for both dates and
> > times.
> > # Consequently some hacks are employed to map data back to Date
> > or Time
> > # in Ruby. If the column_name ends in _time it's created as a
> > Ruby Time.
> > # Else if the hours/minutes/seconds are 0, I make it a Ruby
> > Date. Else
> > # it's a Ruby Time. This is a bit nasty - but if you use Duck
> > Typing
> > # you'll probably not care very much. In 9i and up it's tempting
> > to
> > # map DATE to Date and TIMESTAMP to Time, but too many databases
> > use
> > # DATE for both. Timezones and sub-second precision on
> > timestamps are
> > # not supported.
> >
> > If the AR Oracle adapter needs to do this for its SQL, I guess you need
> > to
> > do something along these lines for your hand generated sql code as well.
> >
> >
> > Note also that the connection adapter hacks will only work for columns
> > whose names END in '_time'
> > --
> > Rick DeNatale
> >
> > My blog on Ruby
> > http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
>
>
> --
> ---------------------------------------------
> Read Bill's latest ramblings at http://schoolboyheart.blogspot.com/
>
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From pelargir at gmail.com Sun Jun 24 15:16:57 2007
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew)
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 15:16:57 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Mountain West Ruby Conf videos
In-Reply-To: <7c0835400706210533n31713ea2nd4f3c400faed7c7d@mail.gmail.com>
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Brenton, I haven't heard whether or not the Hoedown is being taped. If
it's not "officially" being taped, it would be great if there was a
Ruby geek out there with a digital camera who was willing to do so
(with permission of course) and post the vids online.
Matthew
On 6/21/07, brenton leanhardt wrote:
> Like I said last Tuesday, I spent a weekend of my life geeking it up and
> watching the MWRC videos
> (http://mtnwestrubyconf2007.confreaks.com/). Here's what I
> found the most useful:
>
> Ruby Queue: This talk was immediately helpful to me. I had been working on
> a clustering solution for distributing selenium tests. While I had
> everything working I was more than happy to toss it aside after half an hour
> with with RQ. Basically, it was exactly what I was doing except it has been
> baked (with our tax dollars) for several years.
>
> Ruby Implementer's Panel: If you haven't been keeping up with all of the
> Ruby implementation projects this would be a great one to watch. Though it
> doesn't feature YARV directly it's still a great 'state of the union'
> address for the implementation community.
>
> Black-boxing with Ruby: You will probably find James' example in this talk
> a horrible hack but it will inspire you to strive for better automation in
> your day to day life. The talk ranges from using Mechanize to write CLIs
> for lame websites to using Wordpress as a 'filesystem'.
>
> On a side note, any chance of the Ruby Hoedown sessions being filmed?
>
> --Brenton
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
From adam at thewilliams.ws Sun Jun 24 16:53:46 2007
From: adam at thewilliams.ws (Adam Williams)
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 16:53:46 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Mountain West Ruby Conf videos
In-Reply-To:
References: <7c0835400706210533n31713ea2nd4f3c400faed7c7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <62D780F1-D668-4A9E-8884-687F4B2DCA71@thewilliams.ws>
Thankfully, the Hoedown will be recorded, and by the same fellows who
recorded Mountain West. Be sure to thank our sponsors, the conference
organizers, and the Confreaks for a great deal.
aiwilliams
On Jun 24, 2007, at 3:16 PM, Matthew wrote:
> Brenton, I haven't heard whether or not the Hoedown is being taped. If
> it's not "officially" being taped, it would be great if there was a
> Ruby geek out there with a digital camera who was willing to do so
> (with permission of course) and post the vids online.
>
> Matthew
>
>
> On 6/21/07, brenton leanhardt wrote:
>> Like I said last Tuesday, I spent a weekend of my life geeking it
>> up and
>> watching the MWRC videos
>> (http://mtnwestrubyconf2007.confreaks.com/). Here's what I
>> found the most useful:
>>
>> Ruby Queue: This talk was immediately helpful to me. I had been
>> working on
>> a clustering solution for distributing selenium tests. While I had
>> everything working I was more than happy to toss it aside after
>> half an hour
>> with with RQ. Basically, it was exactly what I was doing except
>> it has been
>> baked (with our tax dollars) for several years.
>>
>> Ruby Implementer's Panel: If you haven't been keeping up with all
>> of the
>> Ruby implementation projects this would be a great one to watch.
>> Though it
>> doesn't feature YARV directly it's still a great 'state of the
>> union'
>> address for the implementation community.
>>
>> Black-boxing with Ruby: You will probably find James' example in
>> this talk
>> a horrible hack but it will inspire you to strive for better
>> automation in
>> your day to day life. The talk ranges from using Mechanize to
>> write CLIs
>> for lame websites to using Wordpress as a 'filesystem'.
>>
>> On a side note, any chance of the Ruby Hoedown sessions being filmed?
>>
>> --Brenton
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members