I'll be pretty surprised if the penguin isn't one or maybe the main villain for the film in the next series. I believe WB at one time wanted nolan to included the penguin for TDK sequel but he wasn't a fan of the character.

The next director coming will arguably not have nolan's clout to decide things and i'm petty sure we'll see penguin.

If somebody as old as Tobin Bell played Freeze. ..then they would have to turn Nora Fries into his daughter or something. Because it's unbelievable he would be going out of his way to save an elderly woman a couple more years of life.

But the origin of Freeze has been rebooted anyway. Nora only exists in his mind or something.

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If somebody as old as Tobin Bell played Freeze. ..then they would have to turn Nora Fries into his daughter or something. Because it's unbelievable he would be going out of his way to save an elderly woman a couple more years of life.

But the origin of Freeze has been rebooted anyway. Nora only exists in his mind or something.

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The Dark Knight Beyond: The Riddler (who we perhaps never see) leads Blake into a mob war between Black Mask and Penguin (one of who, as the answer to one of the riddles reveals, is responsible for Blake's fathers death). Blake tries to figure out/justify who, all the while he's supposed to be chasing leads on his mission.

The Dark Knight Legacy: Poison Ivy, an eco-terrorist in the guise of a business-woman who infiltrates large organizations, such as those responsible for the nuke in TDKR: Wayne Enterprises. The LOS also arrive at the orphanage/mansion at the end (Lady Shiva and her daughter Cassandra, plus Damian, who infiltrated Wayne Manor at the beginning as an orphan) to kill Batman, who seemingly didn't die in the blast, 15 years prior. At the end, Ivy focuses her attack on those who were truly responsible for the blast, the LOS.

Themes include mistakes, consequence, legacy, forgiveness

The Dark Knight Reborn: The Mad Hatter as the main villain, leading Bruce on an endless 48+ hour sleepless chase/game; a night that gets weirder and weirder as it goes on. Hugo Strange as the revealed true villain/partner, playing psychological mind games/tests on Bruce. Whether the Mad Hatter actually exists is brought into question.

It's not what im interested in seeing FeedOn, but it's probably what they'll do. Riddler is great for marketing as well. I would prefer an Arkham: Origins type of situation at first. Establish Black Mask and Penguin as competitors. You have Penguin who is a huge villain to all audiences and the obscure one, Black Mask, to the GA.

Then lead to a spin on the whole Arkham Asylum concept, for the sequel.

That sounds more interesting to me. Riddler makes sense to zone in on the detective skills and Riddlers good to get people's asses in the seats. He's also due for a reinvention on film. I get it, but im afraid it's going to be way too predictable to me. I really want to see Batman's detective skills AND him going fighting henchmen or assassins in the first movie.

That's why I suggest Black Mask and Penguin. You get fresh & familiar at the same time. Plus im a bigger fan of Penguin than Riddler.

AA as a sequel would be pretty damn cool. They can introduce Dick Grayson somewhere in the story too. But as for Arkham's villains? Riddler, Strange with appearances by Joker/Harley, Croc, Scarecrow, Calendar Man, Ventriloquist, etc.

3rd the beginning of the bat-family. Robin, etc. Maybe a Court of Owls/Night of Owls storyline.

Then the trilogy is over with Bruce as Batman in his prime. Fast forward, launch a Batman Beyond film. Mr. Freeze is the villain up against Terry.

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That's my dream scenario for the next villain and how I would map out the reboot. Even if Bale came back for JL and the future solos were delayed...I would still map it out that way.

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I agree. She needs to happen. I can't believe that Nolan passed on that opportunity. Anyway I think The riddler and the Joker should be left out of the first film/reboot. I think the penguin would make a better first film villain.

On a side note i would really like them to try and build this next generation of movies with a younger batman that way they can expand past 3 movies. The reason i argue this is because im tired of only getting the villain in one film. They need more screen time and need to be developed more. More films allows for that and it also discourages killing of the villains as well.

I agree. She needs to happen. I can't believe that Nolan passed on that opportunity. Anyway I think The riddler and the Joker should be left out of the first film/reboot. I think the penguin would make a better first film villain.

On a side note i would really like them to try and build this next generation of movies with a younger batman that way they can expand past 3 movies. The reason i argue this is because im tired of only getting the villain in one film. They need more screen time and need to be developed more. More films allows for that and it also discourages killing of the villains as well.

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For instance, have Simon Hurt as a throwaway character in the first movie so he could potentially be used later.

But as for the first film? Well, for a start - screw an origin story. I'm sick of them and Batman or no Batman will not pay to see a story I already know and have already seen.
But that being said, there is room to incorporate the death of his parents. How? Hugo Strange.

If you recall, Strange once set up mannequins in Wayne Manor and had taped voice telling Bruce that he had let them die and that the worms were eating their flesh. This basically led to Batman having a complete mental breakdown.

Add into that Hugo Strange's creepy makeshift bat-suit and you've got a top tier villain.
As a secondary character, I'd like to see the Mad Hatter finally put onto the screen as a schizoid serial killer in the vein of Scorpio from Dirty Harry. Just have him be this psychotic, asocial man-child who barely conceals his bloodlust and depravity beneath a mask of kookiness.

I think we're ready for far more psychologically horrifying enemies this time around.

For instance, have Simon Hurt as a throwaway character in the first movie so he could potentially be used later.

But as for the first film? Well, for a start - screw an origin story. I'm sick of them and Batman or no Batman will not pay to see a story I already know and have already seen.
But that being said, there is room to incorporate the death of his parents. How? Hugo Strange.

If you recall, Strange once set up mannequins in Wayne Manor and had taped voice telling Bruce that he had let them die and that the worms were eating their flesh. This basically led to Batman having a complete mental breakdown.

Add into that Hugo Strange's creepy makeshift bat-suit and you've got a top tier villain.
As a secondary character, I'd like to see the Mad Hatter finally put onto the screen as a schizoid serial killer in the vein of Scorpio from Dirty Harry. Just have him be this psychotic, asocial man-child who barely conceals his bloodlust and depravity beneath a mask of kookiness.

I think we're ready for far more psychologically horrifying enemies this time around.

Have you seen the fan made brilliant trailer called Batman Resident Evil youtube?

Check it out it makes The Mad Hatter look (not actually him but footage of Daniel Day Lewis from Gangs Of New York) totally wacko but in a modern style twist.

Your idea for Hatter may work although I would hope to see his techno genius mind be focused on as well.

It's not what im interested in seeing FeedOn, but it's probably what they'll do. Riddler is great for marketing as well. I would prefer an Arkham: Origins type of situation at first. Establish Black Mask and Penguin as competitors. You have Penguin who is a huge villain to all audiences and the obscure one, Black Mask, to the GA.

I like the idea of two villains competing against each other, and Batman and Gotham caught in the middle. Has it been done before in comic movies? I like the idea of avoiding the team-up plot and striking a little chaos into the film.