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Re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder

Oh. Cause you seem to think the government is out to get you, which obviously isn't something a calm or rational person thinks.

I don't think that the gov't is out to get me, I think they got you. As a Nation, we are imperialistic, oppressive, and export war for profit. Within the Nation, the gov't is working hard to feed the masses their mushrooms and not tell them they are living in darkness. Snowden is shining some light in the darkness. You won't be paid to see that.

Re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

Originally Posted by DaveFagan

I don't think that the gov't is out to get me, I think they got you. As a Nation, we are imperialistic, oppressive, and export war for profit. Within the Nation, the gov't is working hard to feed the masses their mushrooms and not tell them they are living in darkness. Snowden is shining some light in the darkness. You won't be paid to see that.

That's a lot of talk without saying anything. I'm not surprised, David. Can you expound on how people are 'living in darkness'?

The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected.
-GK Chesterton

Re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder

That's a lot of talk without saying anything. I'm not surprised, David. Can you expound on how people are 'living in darkness'?

Certainly! All they have to do is read your posts and they will see how successful good propaganda is at mind bending resulting in an dark intellectual vacuum. I believe Snowden is a threat to you personally.

Re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

Originally Posted by DaveFagan

Certainly! All they have to do is read your posts and they will see how successful good propaganda is at mind bending resulting in an dark intellectual vacuum. I believe Snowden is a threat to you personally.

lol Dave! That didn't expound on anything.

The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected.
-GK Chesterton

Re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

Originally I thought Snowden was merely a whistle blower bringing out what he believed to be acts against our freedoms. Now he is proved to be a traitor to all freedom loving nations giving the contents for the four lap tops to the Chinese. How can anyone troubled by the acts of a governemtns aginst it's people side with the most well defined dictatorial forms of government in history? He is not against what our government is doing with Americans he is simply out to destroy America's fight against terrorists. So he bolsters the power of terrorism and it's ability to destroy our actions to stop them so we will again be more vulnerable to their attacks than we were on 09-10-11.He laughs at the 3,000 dead on 9-11.

Re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

Originally Posted by rhinefire

Originally I thought Snowden was merely a whistle blower bringing out what he believed to be acts against our freedoms. Now he is proved to be a traitor to all freedom loving nations giving the contents for the four lap tops to the Chinese. How can anyone troubled by the acts of a governemtns aginst it's people side with the most well defined dictatorial forms of government in history? He is not against what our government is doing with Americans he is simply out to destroy America's fight against terrorists. So he bolsters the power of terrorism and it's ability to destroy our actions to stop them so we will again be more vulnerable to their attacks than we were on 09-10-11.He laughs at the 3,000 dead on 9-11.

Re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

Espionage is the right charge. Divulging information about the U.S. hacking China to the Chinese is traitorous, and he deserves to be punished for it, even though it was pretty much common well-known information that we were doing it. However, I don't think he should be punished for leaking information about the PRISM program. For I believe that if he had gone the legal route, we, the people, would have never been the wiser. I'm not buying that the revelation has hurt us in any fashion. It is 2013, the War on Terrorism started before 09/11/01, communications were being monitored before then. If Mohammed Jihad stops using G-Mail, and starts using Hotmail, we'll just watch that too. It is not a hard fix. I believe the U.S. and U.K. governments are just upset that their populaces are more informed in the ways that they're being spied on by them.