Is this climate change, a coming ice age or global warming? (or just a fluke.)

As most have probably noticed the weather has been a bit goofy. I was born in Wisconsin but moved to Phoenix at the age of ten. I know about the cold
and the heat.

The weather in Phoenix has been beautiful since mid - December. For the past few weeks the high temps have been in the low to mid 70's and the low
temps have been well above freezing. I don't think it dropped below 45 degrees in Phoenix yesterday. I left my home at 8:30 this morning wearing a
t-shirt.

The thermometer hit 48 degrees in Anchorage, tying it with 1977 for the record high for Jan. 23.
In Fairbanks, where the average high for the date was 1 degree above zero, the high Thursday was 34. Pounding rain replaced snowfall. Iced-over
surfaces tangled traffic and briefly closed the Fairbanks International Airport.

Temperatures across the eastern U.S. and parts of Ontario and Quebec will be at least 8 degrees below normal through Jan. 27, said Matt Rogers,
president of the Commodity Weather Group LLC in Bethesda, Maryland. Next week will be colder, he said.

“The crazy thing is that the current cold snap this week looks to be a bit more modest in the face of next week’s outbreak,” Rogers said. “The
cold coming for the end of January is sufficient to make this the coldest month of the century so far and the coldest the Lower 48 has felt in at
least 20 years.”

Temperatures in Chicago fell lower than the South Pole this month as freezing weather boosted energy consumption, grounded thousands of flights across
the U.S. and disrupted operations at refineries and natural gas production sites.

Brrrrrrrr.......

It makes me feel cold just thinking of how cold it is back east.

So what is your opinion is this just a fluke or is this climate change just the beginning of things to come?

I don't credit global warming at all. I think our weather is either heading for a mini or normal ice age. There is a chill in the air tht I don't
remember before. Also I don't remember the rain, storms and the thunder etc. Our weather use to be pretty even, an event such as a spring tide and
flooding was rare and then we went back to our normal greyishness. How I long for that greyishness again because I hate what we have now. Nature
itself with its animals and plants seems to be all out of kilter, nothinbg feels right.

I must admit it has crossed my mind that we have saturated the earth with people and all the earth using and abusing treatment due to such numbers and
I am wondering if we are about to suffer a planetary shakeup. We know life has started up a number of times in the past and the planet has enough
means of removing us from her skin without the need of outside intervention. I hope we haven't blown it.

I don't think their is enough information to say it is anything other than extreme winter weather in the middle of winter.
Please note I am not saying that global warming doesn't exist just I don't know that extreme cold in the cold season is indicative of anything
abnormal.

Just because you may not have heard of something does not mean it is new.

"The polar vortex was first described as early as 1853. The phenomenon's sudden stratospheric warming (SSW) appears during the wintertime in the
Northern Hemisphere and was discovered in 1952 with radiosonde observations at altitudes higher than 20 km."

The weather in Phoenix has been beautiful since mid - December. For the past few weeks the high temps have been in the low to mid 70's and the low
temps have been well above freezing. I don't think it dropped below 45 degrees in Phoenix yesterday. I left my home at 8:30 this morning wearing a
t-shirt.

This isn't a thought provoking thread. You just want to brag and rub salt in the wound.

It gets cold in the winter? Huh didn't know that. Lol!
Well in my neighborhood we had near record lows this month. The records were all around 1900 so it got cold a hundred years ago to. I still say normal
cycles are the reason but I'm sure it will all be blamed on climate change..

Normal for what? Since you have been alive, or your parents, or perhaps their parents?

Now I don't deny that the crap that we as a human race pump into the atmoshphere isn't helping the climate, maybe it's just speeding things up a
little. But I do not for one minute believe that the human race is the sole cause for the weather anomolies that are occuring at the moment.

But what I do think ( and this is just my opinion, based on no scientific fact whatsoever) is that the earth is just going through one of its many
climate phases, where there are extreme phases of cold as in America right now, and extreme heat such as we are having in Australia.

The simple fact is, these events would have occurred if humans were here or not.

I have lived for 60 years on the north east and during that time I have seen similar winters here . I wished it was warming but can remember in either
1972 or 3 that we had little snow and warmer temps . I had bought a new snowmobile and burnt a set of slides off of it dew to lack of snow and
couldn't run through the day because the temps were just too warm for a free air engine .

I have seen years with early snow , late snow , and no snow to speak of ...years where it reminded me of Vancouver and other years that reminded me of
Winnipeg ....Until they can accurately predict the weather for 72 hours on a consistent basis I wouldn't put too much faith in those telling us that
it's going to be tropical in the next 100 years . I wish it would warm up a bit though ..the heating bill this winter is above average ...peace

"It looks like we're no more than three to four months away from a complete field reversal," said solar physicist Todd Hoeksema of Stanford
University. "This change will have ripple effects throughout the solar system."

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