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Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

Even stupid can learn from hard labor and capital criminals should be killed within a week of convection to help others understand how short their lives will be if they kill.

To prevent punishing the innocent they should be offered to testify under the influence of sodium amatol. I can tell you that it works. I did it to save my life in 1977 in Austin, Texas after being accused of indecency with a child and threatening to kill the victim. The psychiatrist that my lawyer sent me to for a psychological profile got a law degree while he was in med school so he ws pretty smart. We did the truth serum interview in a hospital and I was totally out of it for eight hours after we left the hospital. The psychiatrist went to the grand jury to testify but the assistant DA talked to him in the hall for a minute and asked him to wait - costing me $200/hour . The punk AD went in a told the GJ that I was innocent and the case ended without the SA interview being heard.

In the case of a capital crime if the convicted person wants to do the SA testimony and confesses he could just be given another shot of pure heroin. If he says that he didn't do the crime he could wake up at home in his own bed.

I just called the Dr. to thank him again for helping me and he told me that he had done a SA interview on a guy who had raped a girl, cut her throat and bumped her in a land fill but she lived and told who he was. The Dr. told the court at the punishment phase of the trial that the guy was the most dangerous person he had ever met but they gave the guy 10 years and when he got out he killed several women before he was caught.

Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

Originally Posted by stonewall50

I find it amusing that case after case comes out, and evidence constantly contradicts the initial court of public opinion's findings. And then the court of public opinion never learns to wait for "the rest of the story."

... grand juries are *supposed* to be favorable to cops. As are district attorneys. And judges. And mayors.

If you notice something good in yourself, give credit to God, not to yourself, but be certain the evil you commit is always your own and yours to acknowledge.

Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

Even stupid can learn from hard labor and capital criminals should be killed within a week of convection to help others understand how short their lives will be if they kill.

I guess we can overlook all those on death row that have later been proved innocent.

To prevent punishing the innocent they should be offered to testify under the influence of sodium amatol.

In the case of a capital crime if the convicted person wants to do the SA testimony and confesses he could just be given another shot of pure heroin. If he says that he didn't do the crime he could wake up at home in his own bed.

Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

Originally Posted by JasperL

I guess, but why is anyone OK with one of our "cultural differences" being a police state?

Depends on where you are at, eh? I don't see my local PD as a "police state." I've heard alaska is more like the wild west than any police state. It doesn't bother people if they don't see it every day.

Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

Originally Posted by CycloneWanderer

Depends on where you are at, eh? I don't see my local PD as a "police state." I've heard alaska is more like the wild west than any police state. It doesn't bother people if they don't see it every day.

That's true enough, and a big part of the problem. The victims are some "others" who aren't part of their daily lives, so why bother caring? Hey, they're thugs, obviously, or they wouldn't be in trouble with the police.

It's sort of an aside, but what I always wanted to see in NYC while they were doing the stop and frisk nonsense was a team of cops set up around the $10 million and up apartments around Central Park or down at Wall Street putting white guys in $5,000 suits against the wall and being searched, including their briefcases. Just do that for a week..... After all, if the plutocrats weren't doing anything wrong, carrying drugs or something, you know, they should welcome the searches to help keep the city safe!

Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

Originally Posted by JasperL

Holy straw man, Batman!!

Sure, we all know people like that. The question is what we accomplish by making felons out of maybe 10% of the population, the vast majority for non-violent crimes, and the vast majority of those drug offenses. Seems like there might be better options for our money than spending perhaps $30,000 a head per year in jail.

And somehow the entire rest of the industrialized world maintains social stability and order with 1/5th or less the number of people in jails...

It's a mystery why you said you had a problem with BS arrests. Clearly that's not the case.

These were considered serious crimes ...terroristic threats, burglary, domestic violence, etc. Not talking about getting caught with a joint.

None of that is as obvious to the cops as eluding arrest which can add significant time to your sentence.

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Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

Even stupid can learn from hard labor and capital criminals should be killed within a week of convection to help others understand how short their lives will be if they kill.

To prevent punishing the innocent they should be offered to testify under the influence of sodium amatol. I can tell you that it works. I did it to save my life in 1977 in Austin, Texas after being accused of indecency with a child and threatening to kill the victim. The psychiatrist that my lawyer sent me to for a psychological profile got a law degree while he was in med school so he ws pretty smart. We did the truth serum interview in a hospital and I was totally out of it for eight hours after we left the hospital. The psychiatrist went to the grand jury to testify but the assistant DA talked to him in the hall for a minute and asked him to wait - costing me $200/hour . The punk AD went in a told the GJ that I was innocent and the case ended without the SA interview being heard.

In the case of a capital crime if the convicted person wants to do the SA testimony and confesses he could just be given another shot of pure heroin. If he says that he didn't do the crime he could wake up at home in his own bed.

I just called the Dr. to thank him again for helping me and he told me that he had done a SA interview on a guy who had raped a girl, cut her throat and bumped her in a land fill but she lived and told who he was. The Dr. told the court at the punishment phase of the trial that the guy was the most dangerous person he had ever met but they gave the guy 10 years and when he got out he killed several women before he was caught.

Ha...that punk assistant DA was working under Ronnie Earle who was a complete dick.I'd say you were lucky to get off.

Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

Originally Posted by WCH

The crimes committed by the people I know.

I got back to the original topic in the last part.

OK, but I'm obviously not arguing jail is inappropriate for a person accused of ANY crime. Violent crimes merit jail terms. What doesn't in my view are the huge numbers in jail, many for long sentences for non-violent, mostly drug related crimes. This is your police state on the War on Drugs: