New Hamilton leaving macca theory?

Buttons new comments about his high 13' cars hopes. Quoted as saying 'next years car should suit me a lot better which is very exciting!'.
Maybe Hamilton had a contract offer but as the number 2 driver and he knew next years car was being built around Button!?

Buttons new comments about his high 13' cars hopes. Quoted as saying 'next years car should suit me a lot better which is very exciting!'.Maybe Hamilton had a contract offer but as the number 2 driver and he knew next years car was being built around Button!?

Haven't you got it the wrong way round? Surely, because Hamilton is leaving, and Perez is an untested factor, they have no choice other than to design the car around exactly what Button wants...

"McLaren looks set to finish runner-up in the constructors' championship for the second consecutive season and is turning more and more of its attention to next year's car. The team has already said that it wants to adopt an evolutionary approach to its 2012 car and Lowe said Button's feedback is central to that as well as the car for 2014, when the regulations are set for an overhaul."

"The answer is crucial," Lowe responded when asked by ESPNF1 during the Vodafone McLaren Mercedes phone-in how important Button is for development. "Having a good driver with good feedback is essential still in Formula One even though these days we have far more tools to work with and more simulations etcetera. We are still very reliant on the drivers' feedback for the changes and indeed his suggestions for the changes we make.

"Having Jenson on board for years to come is now a great step, because it [provides] a very solid base in terms of a driver that we can rely on for feedback through that phase that you described [up to 2014]. Jenson obviously is very experienced and was for many years before he even came to McLaren, so that all contributes."

"McLaren looks set to finish runner-up in the constructors' championship for the second consecutive season and is turning more and more of its attention to next year's car. The team has already said that it wants to adopt an evolutionary approach to its 2012 car and Lowe said Button's feedback is central to that as well as the car for 2014, when the regulations are set for an overhaul."

"The answer is crucial," Lowe responded when asked by ESPNF1 during the Vodafone McLaren Mercedes phone-in how important Button is for development. "Having a good driver with good feedback is essential still in Formula One even though these days we have far more tools to work with and more simulations etcetera. We are still very reliant on the drivers' feedback for the changes and indeed his suggestions for the changes we make.

"Having Jenson on board for years to come is now a great step, because it [provides] a very solid base in terms of a driver that we can rely on for feedback through that phase that you described [up to 2014]. Jenson obviously is very experienced and was for many years before he even came to McLaren, so that all contributes."

Plus this is a win-win situation; blame something else for your poor performance, and then say next years car will suit you better knowing full well he won't have Hamilton as the benchmark, so will automatically look better.

Don't you just love this forums conspiracy theorists!
I know it's hard for some people around here but try looking at things logically - of course the '13 car will primarily be built round JB's input - no point in getting LH involved as he's leaving and you would not want him taking inside knowlege with him and Perez won't arrive until its too late to incorporate any of his ideas/preferences - so McLaren would be pretty stupid to ignore JB when designing/building the car.

Plus this is a win-win situation; blame something else for your poor performance, and then say next years car will suit you better knowing full well he won't have Hamilton as the benchmark, so will automatically look better.

But given Button has already outperformed 'the benchmark', what difference does it make?

Buttons new comments about his high 13' cars hopes. Quoted as saying 'next years car should suit me a lot better which is very exciting!'.Maybe Hamilton had a contract offer but as the number 2 driver and he knew next years car was being built around Button!?

Regulations are hardly changing for next year, so how can Button say next year's car will suit him, when clearly this year's car hasn't?

I might be out of date. Can anybody remind me of their respective points tally whilst racing together? (And let's hope the "Points don't mean nuffink" brigade aren't going to do their funny dance again...)

You're right. Hamilton was out-performing Button until Abu Dhabi, as he had more points, but his utterly lacklustre showing there of topping almost every session and comfortably leading the race, compared to his team-mate who qualified out of the top 3 and didn't make the podium despite inheriting a position due to Lewis retiring changed all that, and means Button is now the better of the two.

Maybe Hamilton had a contract offer but as the number 2 driver and he knew next years car was being built around Button!?

Is this the match for PC's Joke's Thread? Of course he had not one but many contract offers from McLaren. He just decided to go to the dark side and join that known cheater Brawn, as simple as that. There's no Team which would dare to offer Lewis a number 2 — as there's no Team which would offer Messi or Ibramovic or Neymar or even Christiano Ronaldo the same spot.

I always expect crazy/stupid threads in between seasons but this year they've come earlier for sure! And I lit a ciggie, of course!

Points obviously mean something but you like a lot don't look at the extra wins/poles which most people actually care about.

Hamilton has 9 wins to Button's 7, not really a massive difference over 3 years. No points for pole and obviously Hamilton hasn't been able to translate his huge pole advantage to wins and points for a variety of reasons.

I don't belong to either the points club or the "context" club but to the group that believes you have to balance the two.

I bet if you asked Alonso or Vettel if they would mind winning the WDC by the other blowing their engine in the last 2 races they would say No. I tend to think the drivers and teams want the actual points Championship and the big prize instead of losing but being the "Peoples Context Champion".

Just my personal opinion. Plus I am in the camp that says Hamilton has beaten Button solidly 2 to 1 in their 3 year battle.

"McLaren looks set to finish runner-up in the constructors' championship for the second consecutive season and is turning more and more of its attention to next year's car. The team has already said that it wants to adopt an evolutionary approach to its 2012 car and Lowe said Button's feedback is central to that as well as the car for 2014, when the regulations are set for an overhaul."

"The answer is crucial," Lowe responded when asked by ESPNF1 during the Vodafone McLaren Mercedes phone-in how important Button is for development. "Having a good driver with good feedback is essential still in Formula One even though these days we have far more tools to work with and more simulations etcetera. We are still very reliant on the drivers' feedback for the changes and indeed his suggestions for the changes we make.

"Having Jenson on board for years to come is now a great step, because it [provides] a very solid base in terms of a driver that we can rely on for feedback through that phase that you described [up to 2014]. Jenson obviously is very experienced and was for many years before he even came to McLaren, so that all contributes."

Oh Button, Button...

Carlsberg dont do posts but if they did this would be the best one in the world...

I have a new theory too. Hamilton left cause he didn't like the catering. Also he thought McLaren overalls made his bum look big. Also he couldn't figure out wtf was with that VIP area in the middle of the garage and why people init looked like fish in a fishtank

Buttons new comments about his high 13' cars hopes. Quoted as saying 'next years car should suit me a lot better which is very exciting!'.Maybe Hamilton had a contract offer but as the number 2 driver and he knew next years car was being built around Button!?

When Jenson wins, the car suits him and when Jenson doesn't win, the car doesn't suit him. We will know if the car suits him if he wins next season. If he doesn't win, the engineers got it wrong yet again and didn't build a car that suit him despite his feedbacks.

Hamilton has 9 wins to Button's 7, not really a massive difference over 3 years. No points for pole and obviously Hamilton hasn't been able to translate his huge pole advantage to wins and points for a variety of reasons.

I don't belong to either the points club or the "context" club but to the group that believes you have to balance the two.

I bet if you asked Alonso or Vettel if they would mind winning the WDC by the other blowing their engine in the last 2 races they would say No. I tend to think the drivers and teams want the actual points Championship and the big prize instead of losing but being the "Peoples Context Champion".

Just my personal opinion. Plus I am in the camp that says Hamilton has beaten Button solidly 2 to 1 in their 3 year battle.

Agreed but sometimes out of Lewis' control that he was unable to translate his poles into victories.

Button has certainly done a lot better than anyone would have thought in the years together. His stock is greater for this and after Australia it looked like he had another level until the grid got closer and the set up window narrowed to have a fast car, very much like 2009 when the car had a large set up cushion Jenson was unbeatable.