I think you're at the point in the build where you should be using a semi-decent camera for fukc sake. The paint should hide all your shitty welds so lets see some better pics! I think it looks nice though....

I've noticed a lot of these southern style buggies have really laid back a-pillars. Does that have a negative effect on how strong the cage is in a roll over situation?

somewhat, but when an A pillar fails it generally doesn't fail far enough to get into the seated area. What really worries me is there basically isn't a B pillar, which makes a long span between the A pillar and C pillar, and very little protection in a roll

i actually cut one for there.didnt like it...look there is a b pillar.it is right behind my head.thats one of the first bars i put in..but since all the windshield bars, all the lower and b pillar bars are 1.88 dom i think i will be safe.
hey mike how many times have you watched videos of them guys down south rolling and flipping them back over then taking off. i think they have been proven to be strong.i am sure you wouldnt know because you have never built anything, but take a piece of 1.20 dom and a piece of 1.88 dom and look at the difference.explaines it's self.

i actually cut one for there.didnt like it...look there is a b pillar.it is right behind my head.thats one of the first bars i put in..but since all the windshield bars, all the lower and b pillar bars are 1.88 dom i think i will be safe.
hey mike how many times have you watched videos of them guys down south rolling and flipping them back over then taking off. i think they have been proven to be strong.i am sure you wouldnt know because you have never built anything, but take a piece of 1.20 dom and a piece of 1.88 dom and look at the difference.explaines it's self.

If you built that with 1.20 or 1.88 wall DOM it would be heavier than Corey's tow rig....but the difference between .120 and .188 wall dom does seem like more than .068 when you pick it up.

Either way, heavier material doesn't make up for inefficient design, it does look like a large open area between pillars, but I'm sure the camera plays tricks on that much tube. Seems to me any real world failure would be more of a "flattening" of all the tube work ahead of your seating position, I would be more worried about trail projections coming through the open area in a violent roll...looks like you could pass an engine block through the "window"...maybe it will look different with the seats in it.

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If you built that with 1.20 or 1.88 wall DOM it would be heavier than Corey's tow rig....but the difference between .120 and .188 wall dom does seem like more than .068 when you pick it up.

Either way, heavier material doesn't make up for inefficient design, it does look like a large open area between pillars, but I'm sure the camera plays tricks on that much tube. Seems to me any real world failure would be more of a "flattening" of all the tube work ahead of your seating position, I would be more worried about trail projections coming through the open area in a violent roll...looks like you could pass an engine block through the "window"...maybe it will look different with the seats in it.

thanks for caring....

to each there own. i could really give a fuk less if you like it or not.it's mine and i like it, i built it, with some help from some good friends..thanks for another worthless post from alpina... shouldn't you be looking at pictures of that cock you like so much.