I'm not doing that:) I dislike KDE much, so I'm not even using it, sorry...I was just trying to say that KDE, as an infrastructure project, seems to take on Debian's system as a distribution of always having a fixed number of well-defined releases "in the air". For Debian ofcourse these are stable, testing, unstable and experimental.B.t.w. testing is indeed fine to use for desktop systems; it has about the stability of other distributions' stable releases.

I'm not doing that:) I dislike KDE much, so I'm not even using it, sorry...I was just trying to say that KDE, as an infrastructure project, seems to take on Debian's system as a distribution of always having a fixed number of well-defined releases "in the air". For Debian ofcourse these are stable, testing, unstable and experimental.B.t.w. testing is indeed fine to use for desktop systems; it has about the stability of other distributions' stable releases.

But then your original comment doesn't make sense as KDE isn't doing anything different than they were prior to the announcement. Opensuse.org is making a change, but not KDE.

A subscription ain't all it used to be cracked up to be. The 2-minute-between-comments plumb disappeared a few weeks ago. At 5 minutes I participate far less frequently than I used to.

Speaking of which, and to further erode comment quality (not going to wait 5 minutes to post on another thread), I'll just mention that the kde-redhat project has been doing this on Fedora for about seven years and it works well.

I've investigated the possibility of intelligent life on some of alternatives to le site de la ligne verte. Without exception, when they have been weighed and measured, they have been found wanting. It's like work reading through the banal to get to the rare gem. This site is not without it's flaws, but like democracy, it's still the best option available.

And you're a four-digit slash-daddy with a subscription... you not going anywhere.

And I've been using it with KDE without issues (on a desktop), and KDE:Current will be a welcome change - faffing about with new repos for every KDE release has been *the* reason I try Chakra et al from time to time.

I've had absolutely no problems with 13.1 on either an Ivy Bridge laptop or a desktop with Nvidia GPU.

Same here, with one exception. If you've not hit this yourself already, here's a tip from someone who just found out the hard way with a machine that came with a GeForce GTX660 which I absolutely checked out for support/drivers before buying the box... BUT:

Don't use the Nouveau driver any longer than absolutely necessary. It is supposed to support this card, but it's flaky as hell, with lots of flickers, hangs, and eventually a crash of the desktop that leaves the driver caught in an endless loop.

You don't even need to do any of these. Just add the Nvidia repository to your system with Yast. It's already on the list of community repos. Automatically installs the latest driver no problem. Or use the 1-click button on the Nvidia driver page of the openSUSE wiki (which I'm pretty sure just does the exact same thing as the first option but even easier).

Do you run it for more than a single day at a time?I have huge memory leak problems. Admittedly, my 2GB RAM is not a real lot today, but after 10 daysof uptime there is 1.4GB of swap in use and increasing. Processes like kded4 and kdeinit4 are huge.More memory is on the way, but at this rate it is not going to help much.

With a previous (KDE3) install I could keep the system running (and logged in) for 6-12 months withoutsuch problems.I read that others using KDE4 have had this problem for several years,

So i guess I will be able to install the latest gimp, blender, inkscape, vlc, etc... no more errors, no more compiling, because the distro is up to date and compatible with the new software. With windows 7/8.1 you can install old(not all dos programs) or new versions of a software on it without worrying it's gonna break or not install at all. Linux developer communities forgot the most important thing about an OS is the type of software(photoshop, office, quickbooks, gimp, libreoffice, etc.... that you can

I loved KDE 3.5, and would spend weeks customizing everything to look exactly like I wanted.It worked perfectly, I had all the right applications and buttons at the right place.

I tried 4.5 and newer versions, but with a kid and my day job, I simply don't have time to look through the 1000 menus, tabs and radio buttons.So I have to stay with the default config, but it kinda sucks.

On the other hand, Linux Mint + Mate gets the job done out of the box and it looks decent.

I loved KDE 3.5, and would spend weeks customizing everything to look exactly like I wanted.It worked perfectly, I had all the right applications and buttons at the right place.

Then you should be quite happy with the Trinity desktop [trinitydesktop.org], which is the KDE-approved and-assisted maintenance/improvement fork of KDE 3.5.10. I am. They're up to 3.5.13.2 now, with release 3.5.14 in the works.

I don't want to spend ages configuring. Glitches included a list of problems I included in a previous thread. Sorry but it does NOT look slick at all, the graphics look dated. I used 3.5, then switched to xfce4, then to Gnome, then to KDE 4.0, then at 4.3 switched to Unity. If it wasn't for the spyware I would definitely be sticking to Unity, it looks very polished and is easy to use. I played with KDE at Christmas and tried shifting a guinea pig family member to it even, but ended up switching all the mach

Well, but you could also compare for alternative KDE defaults: openSUSE kde theme [wordpress.com], Netrunner KDE theme [distrowatch.com], Chakra Kde theme [deviantart.net],Nitrux Theme, Rosa Theme... There's a lot of distros who doesn't ship a vanilla KDE theme...
But if you want a more moder-looking KDE.. you could wait for the default theme (wip) in Plasma Next.. for example, for Dolphin [ubunlog.com]

And if anyone wants to try KDE 4.13 (or whatever version KDE you want) without having to install it on your system, the best way is to test it in your browser with susestudio [susestudio.com].. better than a simulation, an almost real system in your browser

look and feel is still personal, try configuring the look and feel of Dolphin before moaning about it. I don;t like Unity colours, whats wrong with a task bar if it does the job you want it to do? again its all personal taste. every desktop is easy to use. click an icon it loads a program, thats the same for all DEs. if you prefer a DE that removes all the config from you then fine for you, don't diss other DEs because you have taste issues

If it looks terrible then change it. All I usually do is change everything over to oxygen, but thats just the way I like it......IMO it wasn't really usable until about 4.6 or so but that was a problem the distros/me caused by using a desktop that wasn't ready for what we wanted to use it for. It was my choice to install it. I could have just stuck with KDE 3. If I want to go back I still can in fact.

Try using a media player like SMPlayer [sourceforge.net] for your copying to/tmp woes. That has worked for me. Kaffiene has n

The SuSe screenshot is pretty, much better than the Kubuntu I installed a couple of months ago which is the stock one that looks pretty poor. Still the clutter in Dolphin but at least they cleaned up the task bar. However I don't want to have to change my apps to suit my DE! The apps are far more important to me than eye candy. I should be able to double-click on a movie and have it play directly in any media player I choose to install.

I agree with cleaning up the codebase, I liked the move to 4.0 at the ex

I think I'll need to try out OpenSUSE, just for this reason. I've been using Fedora 20 lately and surprisingly there's been very few issues, which is contrary to impression I got back when I was using 12 & 13.