[Cory] Goldstein says this confrontation started on campus quad when the unidentified woman went to hand him a flyer but pulled it back and said “sorry we don’t want people with your hair here.”...

[The woman] tells him in the video that he is appropriating her culture and when he tries to walk away she obstructs his path.

“Yo, stop touching me right now,” Goldstein says he tries to walk up the stairs. She then grabs his arm to keep him from leaving. “I don’t need your disrespect,” Goldstein says as she releases her grip on him and he walks away. Goldstein understands she and her friend were trying to explain why his hair was a form of “cultural appropriation” but he says her approach was not done in a positive way....

It's interesting that this video went viral the same day that Trump's campaign manager got charged with battery for touching a female reporter who was touching Donald Trump. Goldstein is lucky this is on video. At around 0:30, the woman says something about Goldstein touching her, when clearly she is the one making the physical contact.

Touching aside, hair is a touchy issue. It's gentle of Goldstein to see the potential for positive conversation about the politics of what he calls his "hairstyle."

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Ok, I think dreadlocks are gross on anyone, black or white, but as for the issue of "cultural appropriation" it's complete and total nonsense. Think about where this leads:

1) Are you Italian? If not, forget about eating pizza or playing the piano. And Italians might be on weak ground eating pasta to the extent they adopted it from the orient.

2) Are you English? If not, forget about speaking English! Oh, and since English is derived from Germanic and Latin roots, you also have to have Germanic and Roman extraction if you want to culturally appropriate that language.

I could go on, but it's obvious why this is all nonsense. Culture is all about constant sharing and adapting. This woman is not just a bigot, she's a moron and should be expelled from the school not for violating Mr. Goldstein's rights but because she's obviously too stupid to be in college.

Since AA brings up the Big Lewandoski again, I will take ths opportunity to state that now, having seen the sequence of freezes from that video, I do think Lewandoski grabbed her hand to pull her away from Trump, but that was not an unreasonable thing to do after she touched Trump, and it was not done with unreasonable violence. So far, OK.But then he lied about it in his tweet, which was very bad, and he should now resign and spare Trump the necessity of firing him.

Culture war is still war. And the side that uses the best weapons and attacks the other first still wins.

Why have we submitted to the Army of Women Warriors? What is the end game of doing that uber political correctness?

This is not about Christian mutual submission. This is not about social respect for others. This is about showing Dominance of the weak by the strong. This is an occupation army ruling its conquered territory.

She didn't look or sound Jamacian. Bob Marley One LoveI always associated dreadlocks with potheads for Christ, not a budding Angela Davis. We get a lot of these wide-eyed boys and girls in our sleepy little beach town 80 south of SFSU. We call them Trustafarians as their pseudo-dharma bum lifestyle seeking instant karma-schmarma is financed by their worried parents from flyover country.

Seriously, would any small businessman hire either of these two young clowns for an entry level job? At least the young clown with dreads isn't bothering anyone, but still.

I remember my first job out of college. It paid a meager $8.00/hour. Even back then I knew it was meager. My studio apartment was meager too - not even a stove, let alone a kitchen. Just had a hot plate.

Yet, I had to wear a jacket and tie each day to work. Arrived on time, got myself there (bus or long walk), received no $$ from parents, typed up a few Memos on a typewriter, and learned a lot about office life and the working world.

So, at least College did put me on the right path.

I bet these 2 clueless future SJW's in the video ain't on the right path. That's what leftism teaches. How to be stupid, unproductive, yet really obnoxiously concerned about abstract matters.

It's interesting that this video went viral the same day that Trump's campaign manager got charged with battery for touching a female reporter who was touching Donald Trump. Goldstein is lucky this is on video. At around 0:30, the woman says something about Goldstein touching her, when clearly she is the one making the physical contact.

The Florida prosecutor who will oversee the battery case against Donald Trump’s campaign manager is a donor to Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton and part of her Florida “leadership council" — but his office shut off any questions about his political stance as “inappropriate.”

A spokesman for Palm Beach County State Attorney Dave Aronberg scolded a Herald reporter for requesting an interview with the Democrat to discuss how he’ll balance his own political leanings with the politically charged case against Lowell native Corey Lewandowski, calling it an “inappropriate conversation.”

“It’s an inappropriate request, and we’re not responding to it,” spokesman Mike Edmondson said in a brief telephone call.

Organized basketball leagues were started and perfected by the Jews, and dunking was not supposed to be part of the game. When blacks stop appropriating this important Jewish heritage I will start paying attention to this woman's complaints about hair styles.

Dreadlocks in some form or another do have a long cultural history in a band of Middle Europe. Unfortunately Caucasian hair does tend to wad up if not washed and combed regularly. I believe in India also. The Romans spoke about Celtic dreads, and, if you want to make yourself sick, how about the Polish Plait? The "dread" style is probably more culturally rooted in Indo-Aryan cultures than in African. But I would think that anything that human hair can do would be done in multiple cultures.

This is just dumb, but I agree that he was lucky that it was filmed. It has come to this!

Wow, this is Robert Crumb territory. It’s just missing the epilogue with him going home and jerking off to a boot licking fantasy while she’s back at the flop house blowing her unemployed misogynistic boyfriend.

He says he does not know the girl, they’ve never met before. He also says he would like to talk with her then apologize and have a more civil discussion.

You know why he is saying that? Because he is now officially a racist.

I imagine he is being hounded on social media for not "respecting" the person who was, according to a lot of Trump detractors, "viciously assaulting him." He was exercising his white privilege and micro-aggressing against her.

In the end he is going to be sent to the equivalent of room 101 for some reeducation and the person documenting the behavior will be kicked out of school for violating peoples' privacy. Because if non-indoctrinated people see this kind of behavior they are going to object to it.

Press press press those charges. SEND HER ASS TO JAIL. Does anyone think things like this are uncommon? People engage in unwanted touching all the time. The norm now (the new norm) is to press charges. So fucking press them already.

Will the school kick her out? She used actual violence! She made another student unsafe! Or is all the talk about that kind of thing just Leftist bullshit? Just kidding, of course it's Leftist bullshit (Fen's Law, of course)--those are only useful as tools against the Left's enemies, not against themselves.

Good Lord, in the last week I've had to defend members of the Trump campaign and take the side of a white guy with dreadlocks online. What the hell is going on?

Ann Althouse said...Goldstein is lucky this is on video. At around 0:30, the woman says something about Goldstein touching her, when clearly she is the one making the physical contact.

Yeah, he's lucky there is video proof that this woman was lying then, and the video proof will prevent her from lying to the authorities and ruining his life. How often do you think something like this happens w/o video proof? Lucky is the right word. We give women a TON of power in these types of situations and people like ya girl Hillary say that women have "a right to be beleived," but don't go saying that women get unequal special treatment/deference, now.

It is worth noting that the first recorded 'dreadlock' style hair are from an ancient Greek kouros statues.

Is it not fair to say that the Africans appropriated Greek culture?

Lots of people have worn dreadlock style hair. From Spartans to Hindi to Buddhists to Aztecs. If anything the African Americans are trying to appropriate the history of the hairstyle from other cultures.

At around 0:30, the woman says something about Goldstein touching her, when clearly she is the one making the physical contact.

This should be understood as a threat to make a false police statement. Anyone who does this should be fired immediately and any groups not willing to do so should be excluded from any organizing activity. This would happen if activists groups were run by or largely staffed by decent people.

Melissa Click did the same thing, it's a long standing tactic that is finally becoming provable due to the ubiquity of phone video.

Stupid liberals think the alligator will eat them last. "I'm enlightened and Leftist, no way I'll be accused of racism/sexism/homophobia." Idiots all around.

What happens in the next few decades as the black population continues to dwindle as a % of the nation while the latino population continues to grow. Do latinos put up with the racial bullying from blacks that white people have to put up with now? I somehow suspect they don't now and won't in the future...but I guess we'll see.

When I worked at the University of Vermont back in the 1990's, I would see white trustafarians every day. Maybe black people with dreads are culturally appropriating the style of hippy children from affluent backgrounds.

I believe that Hadendoa tribesmen of East Africa (Sudan, Ethiopia, Eritrea)fashioned their hair into dreadlocks, and had done so since time immemorial. British soldiers who fought these fierce warriors in the Madhdist War in the late 19th century dubbed them "Fuzzy Wuzzies" for that reason, inspiring a famous poem by Rudyard Kipling. I'm guessing that the hair style made its way across the Atlantic to Jamaica, among other places, via the slave trade and associated cultural contacts with Ethiopia. Remember, Caribbean Rastafarians revered the Christian dynastic rulers (especially, in modern times, Haile Salassie that ruled Ethiopia.

I had a friend in college who had one of those big hanging diver's watches. He freaking loved it. Thought it was the niftiest thing on Earth. He would save it for special occasions like when he went out clubbing, looking for chicks.

And then one Saturday night at a club some guy noticed it and tried to talk to my friend about diving because he was a diver and thought he'd found a kindred spirit. My friend never wore the watch again.

I always wondered whether the diver-guy's intent wasn't to embarrass my friend from the start.

Derek Hauger, the Wisconsin man who took widely shared video of the incident and posted it to YouTube, wrote that the man did not grope the girl, though.

“I was right next to this and saw the whole thing,” he wrote. “The man never touched her like she said. She was just looking for trouble.”

A second video, also taken by Hauger, captures a moment shortly before the incident.

In that video, the girl holds up a sign reading “DAMN DONALD. BACK AT IT AGAIN w/ THE WHITE SUPREMACY.” She and another female protester shout “black lives matter” as a much larger crowd of Trump supporters counters with chants of “all lives matter.”

At one point, a man in a Trump hat and sunglasses shouts, “Stop doing crime, blacks, stop doing crime.”

A third video captures the pepper-spray incident from a different angle and appears to show the man who sprayed the girl.

Note there are three videos including before the spraying and none show any sexual assault. Yet the police state categorically she was sexually assaulted.

This girl should be in jail. The pepper sprayer is likely headed there, but I bet nothing happens to her.

Just puttin' it out there...the student body was/is aprox. half Asian or Latino/Chicano. How do you imagine they feel about black activism/whining about cultural appropriation/racial injustice against blacks?

Just kidding, I'm sure they're all super liberal Leftists. Still, even within the Left the demographics have to be scary for certain groups who've always had priority in the grievance game.

From what I understand, pants were introduced into western society by the Mongols. Well, good on them. If you think shorts are a problem, you should try togas. You have to constantly rearrange the folds and keep your legs together when seated. Pants were definitely an improvement......We should feel free to appropriate any cultural artifact that makes our lives easier. This is sometimes known as the marketplace of ideas. That woman was tryIng to close down the marketplace of ideas----on a college campus yet......And, anyway, I don't see how dreadlocks are ever going to catch on in be marketplace of hair styles. Why go to all that time and trouble just to make yourself look worse. Dreadlocks are to hairstyles what Indian food is to good eats.

In Kipling's poem "Fuzzy-Wuzzy" (pub. 1895) a British soldier refers to the "'ayrick 'ead of 'air" typical of the Hadendoa tribemen:

So ’ere ’s to you, Fuzzy-Wuzzy, at your ’ome in the Soudan;You ’re a pore benighted ’eathen but a first-class fightin’ man; An’ ’ere ’s to you, Fuzzy-Wuzzy, with your ’ayrick ’ead of ’air— You big black boundin’ beggar—for you broke a British square!

There was an episode of the Simpsons, way back when, where Homer and the kids go to Lollapoluza, or something like that, and Lisa cautions Homer that his wearing one of those knit tam/cap things (red, gold and green) makes "a bold statement" about his "connection to Reggae music."

BTW, hasn't it occurred to anybody that much of "all of this" is due to the election of one B.H. Obama and the general belief of of blacks that's its now "our time?" e.g., witness the national explosion of low-grade warfare of black on white aggression like "Polar Bear Hunting," etc., since Obama was elected? (A fact the MSM attempts to keep well-hidden from the general public by things like failure to list the race of the assailants, etc, leading to extreme cynicism on the part of whites, as witness to the multitude of cynical comment replies to such stories submitted to the editors of newspapers--when they do even bother to cover these stories--about "Amish crime waves" which in return has led to even more fevered attempts by the MSM to cover up the extent of this problem by permanently closing comments sections about such incidents entirely.)

There was another episode of the Simpsons where, at the weigh-in before a prize fight, the first boxer dedicates the bout to his manager, who just passed away. Then the second boxer (who I think maybe was supposed to be Mike Tyson) says, "I would also like to dedicate this fight to his manager."

People get sucked into arguments about "cultural appropriation" as if there were anything of substance there, when all it is is people of mediocre (or lower) intellect, "educated" well beyond their level of intelligence, engaging in cargo-cult intellectualism.

From what I understand, pants were introduced into western society by the Mongols.

No. Long before the Mongols coalesced into a tribe, long pants were being worn by the Indo-European peoples. And by "long before" I mean millennia. Celtic and German tribesmen wore long pants and, curiously, Roman soldiers (who wore kilts) disdained them as effeminate for that reason. Yes: kilt- and toga-wearing Mediterranean peoples regarded long pants as effeminate! Persian warriors (who were Indo-Aryans, hence Indo-Europeans) wore long pants. Indo-Europeans were wearing long pants well before they started on their mulitple volkerwanderungen from their homeland on the Eurasian Steppe in c. 2000 B.C.

If you're a white man or woman you're an Indo-European (I typically write "Indo-European" when asked to identify myself racially). So, if you wear long pants, you're not appropriating anyone's culture, you're living true to your own heritage.

The guy in the back is audio-recording on his phone so when she shouts "you're using your hands" or something along those lines it would be believable on audio. But at the same time someone else is video recording so you can see that the charge - you're using your hands - is a lie. Unusual.

Then the guy never uses his hands - he pushes her away with his arm. And she tends not to use her hands - she puts her hands over and past his arm in a very invasive way but she doesn't grip with her hands or make a fist or hit him. So if he didn't shove with his arm, she could have got him on assault and he would have to say that she never grabbed or hit him or shoved him.

So this is a specialized way of behaving and that suggests staging - either a psychology class video on space invasion or a SJW video on how to behave at a Donald Trump demonstration. How to provoke Trumpites and get them on assault charges.

Having said that, I add from another comment above:"Good Lord, in the last week I've had to defend members of the Trump campaign and take the side of a white guy with dreadlocks online. What the hell is going on?"

She is a campus employee? Unless this was some kind of stunt for some "Studies" class, I hope she is now a former campus employee. Although being black and female, probably not. She should "check her privilege."

Cultural appropriation is the most insidious bullshit on campus today. Without borrowing from each others' cultures, America would have no mathematics (Arabic, Greek), the Irish wouldn't eat potatoes (Peruvian), the Italians wouldn't have pasta (Chinese). We're all immigrants in this country, even those who crossed that Asian land bridge, and we all culturally appropriate. The zipper in your pants, the grain in your bread, the clothes on your back. It's absurd. As Michael said, she needs to check her privilege!

There used to be a black musician with dreadlocks that would play CLASSICAL music on a VIOLIN on the streets of Seattle.

This reminds me of one of the most beautiful things, one of my favorite videos--Bobby McFerrin discussing and singing a Bach prelude coupled with a version of Ave Maria. He even throws in a Jewish joke which amuses all and offends none that I can see ("if you're Jewish and have a problem singing Ave Maria, you can sing Oy Vey Maria"). His smile of pure pleasure at the end lifts my heart every time.

Don't know why we can't just love beautiful and useful things without worrying about where they came from and who has a right to them.

We all engage in cultural appropriation. That's what happens when you live in a multicultural society. I eat chinese food, japanese food, italian food, brazilian food etc etc. There is nothing wrong with this. In fact, if I didnt' have these options I'd consider that the society was lesser because of it.Cultural appropriation therefore is good.I notice that those having a beef with it only do so when they think their culture is being appropriated. They ignore all the times they themselves appropriate and no one calls them on it. It seems like its black people who have an issue with other people wearing "their hairstyles". I dont really get that argument from say asian people (some asians might say doing Yoga is appropriating). but in the case of hairstyles, why is there a beef? I really dont get it.First off, you dont need permission from members of another culture to do your hair anyway you want. Who do these people think they are telling others what is or isn't appropriate asa hair style. I woudl agree that the guys hair looks ridiculous, but its his hair to wear. We dont know which culture came up with which hairstyle first. Did blacks come up with the dread locks? I was just reading how the dread locks made its way to Jamaica by way of Hindu monks. So, really it was the rastafarians appropriating Indian culture when they took on the dread locks. If thats true, then maybe black people should stop wearing dread locks. Hmm?Even if it was Hindus and not blacks, so what? since when is it true that a hair style that is worn in one culture can't be worn in another culture? I've never gone to a barber shop and asked for a hair cut and been told the etymology of the hair cut and then been told that I couldn't get it cut that way because it would be appropriating someone's culture. I could give two shits. If I want dread locks and Im paying you money to give me dreadlocks then give me dreadlocks. That's the extent of any conversation I'd ever have with a barber.

Only no barber would EVER tell me I couldn't have the hair style I wanted. So, my hypothetical conversation would never even happen.

How are black people diminished if white people start having dreadlocks? Does a white person having dreadlocks prevent a black person from also having dreadlocks? The whole idea of cultural appropriation as a negative is logically absurd.

Strides for african Americans? Or cultural appropriation by black people? You decide. If this guy can't wear dreadlocks I dont see why Misty copeland should be dancing Ballet. did black people invent ballet?You always hear how Miley Cyrus doing the twerk is racist because she didnt invent the twerk. And somehow somewhere its been proven that black people did (if they want to take credit for such an ugly "dance" go for it. but I dont think they were the first people to ever shake their ass.) by the same logic then, Misty is culturally appropriating when she is doing ballet. and it might in fact be racist. We should have no more black people doing ballet. Just like we should have no white people doing yoga.

They look to me like nothing so much as goofy, very young college kids. And the young woman doesn't look angry; she's smiling most of the time. She's pulling at the guy’s sleeve to get him to talk with her, nothing else. What I find the most unsettling in this is the person with the phone/camera -- what's with the impulse to record every interaction we witness?

She probably needs to stop culturally appropriating things like the English language, electricity, internal combustion engine vehicles, indoor plumbing, etc. I wish her well on her return to Africa and living a culturally authentic existence. But keep the cornrows, babe.

That kid is repellent with his pimp walk and yo and practiced looking gangsta gesticulations. I'd slap him just for being such a calculated fool of a whigger. Cultural appropriation? Maybe. Nobody likes being aped, though. Even though cultural appropriation is a charge aimed only at whites, a fool is a fool.

So has she been fired yet? Her physical intimidation and asking her friend for scissors has created a hostile environment that does not comport with the community values of a university. She is making the learning environment unsafe for a student.