Speaker Pelosi Must Be Removed For Her Illegal Position on Impeachment Investigation

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Nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jun-11-08 04:14 PM
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Speaker Pelosi Must Be Removed For Her Illegal Position on Impeachment Investigation

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Talking Points Memo
June 11, 2008, 11:32AM

Congressman Dennis Kucinich introduced 35 Articles of Impeachment against the President of the United States. Speaker Pelosi's position remains, "Impeachment is off the table." This is not leadership, but complicity with war crimes:

“Speaker Pelosi will continue to lead legislative efforts to find a new direction in Iraq but believes that impeachment would create a divisive battle, be a distraction from Congress’ efforts to chart a new course for America’s working families and would ultimately fail,” said her spokesman Nadeam Elshami.

The Speaker's excuses are frivolous. One does not agree to remain complicit with tyranny on the illusion fact finding might be divisive. Division is the intent of the Framers: To ensure power is not centralized, and divided. Pelosi supports centralizing unchecked power under tyranny, not just this President and Congress

An investigation to gather facts -- which she opposes -- is not the same as a decision to impeach. Pelosi cannot explain how she arrived at her conclusion: To not investigate, and without any review of evidence, trump the House.

The Constitution does not delegate any power to the Speaker to decide impeachment issues. That power was only delegated to the House of Representatives.

Go ahead. Impeach.

Political suicide is sooo much fun to watch.

sfexpat2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jun-11-08 07:05 PM
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121. I've committed to this field until Bush is in jail.And there's no "flaking" here.
Not bringing your experience to bear in an argument is one of the most fundamental errors in logic.
Go find Nancy's impeachment talking points. Go notice the shift in Mr. Conyers' AFTER she became Speaker. Unless he was speaking in tongues as some kind of Celestial intervention, he started parroting her talking points.

"Committed" sounds right.....:D

Warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jun-11-08 06:50 PM
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116. Circular reasoning and a dose of utter nonsense just to add a little bite...

No matter that every single damn one of the 35 articles against Bushie, plus the three for Cheney, are based on proven assertions, AKA facts. Facts are for the rabble; this is a faith-based country now and everybody needs to have faith that Pelosi and the rest aren't actually having a nightly roll in the hay with some Bushean lizard. Even though that's exactly what it looks like from here.

Uh...if there was proof, they would have impeached a looong time ago. The GOP threw the last set onto the floor for debate. Pelosi skedaddled so fast there was a wind tunnel effect.

The House has the sole power of impeachment. Still does. It is a discretionary power and the House has chosen, thus far, not to exercise it. The Speaker cannot stop it if a majority wants it to happen. But a majority doesn't, so its easy for the speaker, in accordance with the wishes of a majority of the Democratic Caucus, to say its not "on the table" because, well, the members aren't putting it on the table

Because they want to get on the business of government, not to look like complete imbeciles when the demanded proof doesnt materialise. As for "hearings and investigations"...they've had those

And found nothing.

And heres the kicker

FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jun-11-08 04:35 PM
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16. Agreed - censure and impeach them and if possible, outlaw the Republican criminals from office......we just shouldn't call on Pelosi (our Democratic Speaker of the House and next in the line of succession) to resign if she doesn't drive the process to our satisfaction... driving impeachment to satisfy her party base is not her primary function.

No matter that every single damn one of the 35 articles against Bushie, plus the three for Cheney, are based on proven assertions, AKA facts. Facts are for the rabble; this is a faith-based country now and everybody needs to have faith that Pelosi and the rest aren't actually having a nightly roll in the hay with some Bushean lizard. Even though that's exactly what it looks like from here.

This thread is the result of the most thoughtful people leaving DU. What remains the rabble, and they don't think too clearly. But they are very willing to call you a racist or an asshole or a c---, depending on how high and mighty they are feeling.

This thread is the result of the most thoughtful people leaving DU. What remains the rabble, and they don't think too clearly. But they are very willing to call you a racist or an asshole or a c---, depending on how high and mighty they are feeling.

Please don't take DU as an example of thoughtful Democrats.

Elspeth,

Unfortunately your party has been hijacked. The thoughtful Democrats are now Republicans. For the past several decades, your party has drifted toward outright socialism and hatred of anything that made this country great.

Obama's group has been controlling things for a while now, it's just that Obama VS Clinton exposed it to more people.