claim: actually existing socialism is awful and oppressive. response: it was only ever implemented as a last resort (kinda like women being given CEOships), in conditions of scarcity, with every other country wanting it to fail

claim: actually existing socialism is awful and oppressive. response: it was only ever implemented as a last resort (kinda like women being given CEOships), in conditions of scarcity, with every other country wanting it to fail

claim: the state would be too powerful. response: it doesn't have to be; Marx wanted it to "wither away". plus what's the diff (threat-wise) between an all-powerful monopoly corporation vs a state, except that the state is at least nominally accountable to the people? (though actually the state theoretically has legitimacy in terms of violence and its claim to be "for the people", so think about this more idk)

claim: the state would be too powerful. response: it doesn't have to be; Marx wanted it to "wither away". plus what's the diff (threat-wise) between an all-powerful monopoly corporation vs a state, except that the state is at least nominally accountable to the people? (though actually the state theoretically has legitimacy in terms of violence and its claim to be "for the people", so think about this more idk)