Welp. We've finally had a Scootaloo episode! And I'm happy to say that it more than fit my expectations.

We got to see Luna in her most prominent role since the beginning of S2 (and a lot of people weren't satisfied with that episode), as well as some insight into one her royal duties (Dream Guardian, or some such). We got a nice addition to RD's character near the end, which may do some good to quelling all the hate surrounding her usual arrogance (plus, the fact she can literally level trees with a single kick is kinda freakin' amazing). Plus, the issue of Scootaloo being the only CMC without someone to truly look up to has finally been addressed (and I will be severely disappointed if we don't see some consistency with this fact in future episodes).

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Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:30 pm

Sleet

Bringing Foxy Back

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Re: My Little Pony

If Sweetie Belle sang well this episode, it'd be less funny.

That was a good episode! I liked seeing Luna again, and focusing on Scootaoo was great. I think the fanon of her being an orphan is pretty darn believable at this point. Also, was it just me or was there more visual humor in this episode than usual?

I think the main reason she didn't sing well is because 99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall (or in this case, Buckets of Oats) is more of a chant than it is a song. I mean, when you've got adults singing it, there tends to be a little musicality to it. But with kids? They don't care how they sound, so they just scream it as loud as they can. And that's what Sweetie did.

I'll admit I wondered the same thing when I was watching the episode, but it actually makes a lot more sense to do it the way they did. Although I do think it would've been hilarious if they'd somehow turned 99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall into a drawn-out emotional ballad or some other such nonsense, but the way they did handle it was still pretty fantastic. Especially with Sweetie Belle instantly conking out at the end (which I have a feeling is in reference to the way kids tend to be incredibly loud and obnoxious on long trips, but as soon as things die down you have the inevitable crash where everyone just falls asleep).

It would've been slightly better, though, if Applebloom and Scootaloo had joined in (at least for a portion of it).

I thought that she sounded bad because the song of 99 bottles is an annoying song.

I second that motion.

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Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:30 pm

Penwrite

Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:03 amPosts: 3407Location: Canterlot

Re: My Little Pony

Just watched the new episode with my brother, time to chime in with my thoughts.

I think I might have a new favorite episode. The music here was awesome, especially for that second-to-last scene with Rainbow Dash helping Scootaloo fly. The humor was fast and furious, with so much stuff happening on-screen at times that I had to rewind a couple times just to take it all in. I never thought I'd laugh so much at Sweetie Belle pulling a luggage-filled cart. That sequence with Scootaloo asleep on her scooter and going through all those hazards was amazing, especially with how it ended.

Also, that whole sequence near the end with Scootaloo running away, hanging by a branch, getting swept away by the river, and falling over the waterfall, clearly to her death if not for Rainbow Dash, was surprisingly intense. Yeesh.

And of course, seeing Luna again was great.

Changing gears slightly, is it just me, or have the lessons this season been a bit more... I don't know, mature? Cerebral? I'm not sure what the right word is. But I mean, Crystal Empire was about self-sacrifice, Too Many Pinkies was about knowing when you have to choose which friend to spend time with, One Bad Apple was about speaking up rather than becoming a bully yourself, Magic Duel was... I don't know, tyranny is wrong or something. And this one was being honest about your fears so that they don't freaking murder you via waterfall. Not just that, but I felt a theme throughout the episode of Scootaloo's loneliness, whenever they showed Apple Bloom and Sweetie Belle being comforted by their sisters, and then showed Scootaloo on her own. I don't know, it just seems like something the especially-younger viewers might have trouble with.

I'm overthinking this again, aren't I?

Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:55 pm

Radio Blue Heart

Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:27 pmPosts: 2642Location: North Carolina

Re: My Little Pony

Penwrite Wrote:

Just watched the new episode with my brother, time to chime in with my thoughts.

I think I might have a new favorite episode. The music here was awesome, especially for that second-to-last scene with Rainbow Dash helping Scootaloo fly. The humor was fast and furious, with so much stuff happening on-screen at times that I had to rewind a couple times just to take it all in. I never thought I'd laugh so much at Sweetie Belle pulling a luggage-filled cart. That sequence with Scootaloo asleep on her scooter and going through all those hazards was amazing, especially with how it ended.

Also, that whole sequence near the end with Scootaloo running away, hanging by a branch, getting swept away by the river, and falling over the waterfall, clearly to her death if not for Rainbow Dash, was surprisingly intense. Yeesh.

And of course, seeing Luna again was great.

Changing gears slightly, is it just me, or have the lessons this season been a bit more... I don't know, mature? Cerebral? I'm not sure what the right word is. But I mean, Crystal Empire was about self-sacrifice, Too Many Pinkies was about knowing when you have to choose which friend to spend time with, One Bad Apple was about speaking up rather than becoming a bully yourself, Magic Duel was... I don't know, tyranny is wrong or something. And this one was being honest about your fears so that they don't freaking murder you via waterfall. Not just that, but I felt a theme throughout the episode of Scootaloo's loneliness, whenever they showed Apple Bloom and Sweetie Belle being comforted by their sisters, and then showed Scootaloo on her own. I don't know, it just seems like something the especially-younger viewers might have trouble with.

I'm overthinking this again, aren't I?

No, I would say that is a very apt analysis of the episode.

While I am posting, here is a song about the most METALpony that ever was!

and that was the only episode so far where it was really necessary. Celestia was actually present at the end of Crystal Empire and Magic Duel, and the other two have been CMC episodes and they aren't required to write to her.

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Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:38 pm

IceKitsune

Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:35 pmPosts: 4530Location: Ohio

Re: My Little Pony

RandomGeekNamedBrent Wrote:

and that was the only episode so far where it was really necessary. Celestia was actually present at the end of Crystal Empire and Magic Duel, and the other two have been CMC episodes and they aren't required to write to her.

That is true it hasn't really been necessary for anyone to write one except Pinkie Pie. Who knows maybe the CMC can write to Luna instead I think that could be a nice way to add something to the CMC episodes and maybe give Luna some more screen time.

Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:47 pm

Penwrite

Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:03 amPosts: 3407Location: Canterlot

Re: My Little Pony

There's only been like one actual friendship report, but there have still been verbalized lessons at the end of the episodes. Which in itself is rather interesting. Perhaps we're to assume they write the letters down to be sent in later?

Edit: something else I've come to while thinking over this essay. At first having Princess Luna in the episode seemed like fan service. Then Luna explained that watching over dreams is part of her powers. But that didn't really explain why she was in Scootaloo's dream in particular at THIS particular time. But then, it dawned on me that Luna pre-Nightmare Moon and Scootaloo in this episode have a surprising amount in common. Both are suffering from loneliness and fear. Scootaloo wants to have a loving sister-figure in RD and was fearing her rejection, while Luna had a sister by way of Celestia, yearned for love from her subjects during the night, and feared never getting it. So here, Luna saw Scootaloo was going through something similar and stepped in to help.

Luna is best princess.

Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:04 pm

Radio Blue Heart

Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:27 pmPosts: 2642Location: North Carolina

Re: My Little Pony

It turns out that they are now into their third printing of the My Little Pony comic. Since my comic shop failed to obtain the first printing for me I had to get it off amazon for around $10. I know that is almost three times the cover price, but it is worth it and makes me feel better about putting up with my shop's incompetence and severe lack of customer service. I just hope that they can get the box set in. Of course it is on sale at midtown comics.

Buying a comic book should not be this complicated.

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Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:05 am

angelusbr

Joined: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:26 amPosts: 1754

Re: My Little Pony

Penwrite Wrote:

There's only been like one actual friendship report, but there have still been verbalized lessons at the end of the episodes. Which in itself is rather interesting. Perhaps we're to assume they write the letters down to be sent in later?

Edit: something else I've come to while thinking over this essay. At first having Princess Luna in the episode seemed like fan service. Then Luna explained that watching over dreams is part of her powers. But that didn't really explain why she was in Scootaloo's dream in particular at THIS particular time. But then, it dawned on me that Luna pre-Nightmare Moon and Scootaloo in this episode have a surprising amount in common. Both are suffering from loneliness and fear. Scootaloo wants to have a loving sister-figure in RD and was fearing her rejection, while Luna had a sister by way of Celestia, yearned for love from her subjects during the night, and feared never getting it. So here, Luna saw Scootaloo was going through something similar and stepped in to help.

Luna is best princess.

A lot of people has been saying that Luna was just fanservice. I agree with you on the explanation of why she helped Scootaloo. I think that Luna chose to enter Scootaloo's dreams this time because the horror stories were adding up to her fear of having a big sister figure to the point of giving her great torment in her nightmares.It amses me how some people think that it's pure fanservice when a character is given a bigger role in the story.It'll be fanservice, thou, if they start making Lyra voicing that she has the desire of being human.

Considering that the Trixie Episode was not in anyway connected to the Fandom (it was originally going to be an early season 2 episode, so the idea had been thought up some time during mid season 1 IIRC) almost any incident that people think is Fan Pandering is in fact not. Truth be told the people who do think that are really annoying and use it as a reason to hate an episode instead of coming up with real reasons.

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Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:44 am

angelusbr

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Re: My Little Pony

IceKitsune Wrote:

Considering that the Trixie Episode was not in anyway connected to the Fandom (it was originally going to be an early season 2 episode, so the idea had been thought up some time during mid season 1 IIRC) almost any incident that people think is Fan Pandering is in fact not. Truth be told the people who do think that are really annoying and use it as a reason to hate an episode instead of coming up with real reasons.

Agreed. If Luna had been something like Derpy is (like "let's spot Luna in the background") then I might have agreed it was fanservice, but they gave her a role (and a good one that fits her character well).edit:Before anyone points it out, I'm not against Derpy nor fanservice, as long as it gives a purpose to the story.

It turns out that they are now into their third printing of the My Little Pony comic. Since my comic shop failed to obtain the first printing for me I had to get it off amazon for around $10. I know that is almost three times the cover price, but it is worth it and makes me feel better about putting up with my shop's incompetence and severe lack of customer service. I just hope that they can get the box set in. Of course it is on sale at midtown comics.

Buying a comic book should not be this complicated.

Third printing? Seriously? Most comic runs these days, including Marvel and DC, don't even sell off all their first printing.

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Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:20 am

Foxstar

BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU

Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:00 amPosts: 1689

Re: My Little Pony

Penwrite Wrote:

I'm overthinking this again, aren't I?

Yes, Yes you are.

IceKitsune Wrote:

almost any incident that people think is Fan Pandering is in fact not.

Derpy getting major screen time and a voice sure didn't happen because DHX thought "Why not" But it's unlikely to ever happen again.

Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:22 pm

Radio Blue Heart

Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:27 pmPosts: 2642Location: North Carolina

Re: My Little Pony

Penwrite Wrote:

Radio Blue Heart Wrote:

It turns out that they are now into their third printing of the My Little Pony comic. Since my comic shop failed to obtain the first printing for me I had to get it off amazon for around $10. I know that is almost three times the cover price, but it is worth it and makes me feel better about putting up with my shop's incompetence and severe lack of customer service. I just hope that they can get the box set in. Of course it is on sale at midtown comics.

Buying a comic book should not be this complicated.

Third printing? Seriously? Most comic runs these days, including Marvel and DC, don't even sell off all their first printing.

BRONIES! We are awesome!

Bronies are ravenous!

This is exactly why I was so mad when the comic shop lost my comics. I knew that it would fly off the shelves like that!

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Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:21 pm

Penwrite

Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:03 amPosts: 3407Location: Canterlot

Re: My Little Pony

Well, time to share with you all my crazy thought of the day I had while walking the dogs.

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Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:48 pm

IceKitsune

Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:35 pmPosts: 4530Location: Ohio

Re: My Little Pony

Foxstar Wrote:

IceKitsune Wrote:

almost any incident that people think is Fan Pandering is in fact not.

Derpy getting major screen time and a voice sure didn't happen because DHX thought "Why not" But it's unlikely to ever happen again.

That's why I said "Almost any incident" and not "every incident" since Pandering has happened before just not as much as people actually think.

Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:49 pm

Sleet

Bringing Foxy Back

Joined: Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:32 amPosts: 16609Location: Nephelokokkygia

Re: My Little Pony

Penwrite Wrote:

Well, time to share with you all my crazy thought of the day I had while walking the dogs.

Those last two photo's are amazing! I don't know why but I'm surprised someone's made a Ren and Stimpy reference.

Does anyone feel like the animation changed in that episode. It seemed more squash and stretch than usual.

I'm glad we saw more of Luna in this episode. The scene where she tells Scootaloo to confront her fears was charming, although i think the part where she flies off with an echo in her voice is really cliche

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i think the part where she flies off with an echo in her voice is really cliche

give her a break, she spent the last thousand years on the moon. It was still new back then. She did it first.

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Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:57 pm

IceKitsune

Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:35 pmPosts: 4530Location: Ohio

Re: My Little Pony

I have to admit that I'm kind of a bit annoyed how people keep comparing Luna to Freddy Kruger now that we know about her dream powers. I get that hes the most popular character that has dream based powers but come on people there are others, you know ones that aren't psychotic murderers and who's purpose of using their powers are much more like Luna's. Dream of the Endless from DC/Vertigo and NiGHTS from Nights into Dreams to name two that come to mind right away.

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