And then you have to give most of it back when your sub is up. Steam? Is that on ps plus already? Mmo's? What does that have to do with ps plus?? Trophies? Ha ha ha, come on, you're not even trying anymore. Not only trophies copies, ps plus isn't necessary to have them

multiplat servers use the companies servers, sometimes P2P, 1st party IPs use sonys own servers. x-platform chat is in a way confirmed but you don't need ps+ for it. steam isn't on ps+, or psn in general, just steamworks. last i checked anyone can get an MMO. no free PSN games but good discounts. thought it was 1 mini but it does update every 2 weeks. more than 1 ps1 game every month. yea 1HR trials --- cloud saving is a RUMOR. hulu plus is for everyone.

btw it's called ps+ not psn+ there is a difference <_< well hope ya'll enjoyed reading.

Give me a break. I'm a PlayStation fan, but I'm not about to spout off nonsense to make my console of choice look better...

Steam integration and cross platform chat? That's in ONE game. You might as well say PS3 has clan support (Killzone) and mods (Unreal 3) as features. Those are features of specific games, not PSN features.

Trophies being better than achievements? They're the same damn thing with minor differences, and which is better comes down solely to opinion.

Cloud saving... not announced = not a feature. You might as well throw cross game chat on that list since that's been rumored as well.

Seriously, I'm a PlayStation guy and would put my money towards PS+ over XBL any day, but if you are going to try to make a point, don't add in unnecessary bullshit. It just ends up making you look stupid.

I dont get what you are saying. Are you meaning that if you bought a game "to play" online you cant when your gold runs out? That makes more sense.

The way you had it:

"and on XBL when your subscription is over, you can't even play all your games you bought online anymore!"

That is incorrect. If you bought a game over XBLA in gold it is still your game in silver. Same thing with the free ones they give from time to time. They are still playable if your sub runs out.

On topic..PS+ has some nice features but the technical aspect of the term "FREE" is not exactly that. It should be stated as "Free for as long as you are a member". Like others had said. If you let your sub run out, those games are no longer playable. XBLA, a freebie is exactly that regardless of gold/silver..it really is "FREE".

Many dont even see this but slowly Sony is changing the structure of the PS+ system. They are building it up more and more with incentives to get others to be members. That is not a bad thing if you are going to be a member but it is slowly turning against the non members. It would not surprise me if Sony was purposely withholding content from non members in order to make it look more appealing to be a member.

There are many different ways they can approach this. Extra maps for KZ3, bonus cars for GT5, special "members only" levels in LBP2. Things that should be available to everyone but they need to make PS+ relevant so leveraging the popularity of titles and the percieved value in additional DLC not available to everyone is how they are doing it.

It is a business model that has worked for one other company and sony sees this and obviously is capitalizing on it (or soon will). The perception of "value" varies from person to person. What you dont see now that tempts your interest, give it time...you will soon enough.

I'm not talking about XBL games. I'm talking about retail games! XBL expired, and nolne of your retail games are playable online anymore.

"If you BOUGHT a game over XBLA in gold it is still your game in silver."

the key word is "bought" and the same thing applies to PS+ for games you bought at discounted price as a subscriber. even after your subscription ends, things you bought are yours forever.

"Same thing with the free ones they give from time to time. They are still playable if your sub runs out."

I'm not on XBL but I doubt there's different free games for Gold members every month on XBL. am I right? sometimes PSN has free games too, like I got Ragdoll Kung Fu for free several months back but free games for subscribers are incentives thus giving them the sense of value compared to non+ user. they get it every month of their subscription and can't play them again when their subscription is over. but hey, those are the games other people pay to play while being a PS+ member, you got to play them for free like a free rental. what's there to complaint? plus you still got to keep the premium avatars and dynamic themes others pay for also.

in terms of contents, PS+ has its members covered in its price already and there's still many more months to go before their 1 year subscription end.

On topic: for what I see in + now is a discount store. Special pricing on items which is similar to XBLA. Each week there are deals on games and DLC that anyone can get in on. No gold required to buy a discounted game unlike +. The discounts through + arent even that significant and also arent on everything in the store.

You see, being a member to a discount club implies you save on everything in the store. Maybe sony cant do that because the pricing is controlled by the publishers. They can only price what they control.

Only for people who take advantage of the bonuses. For me, the service has paid for itself nearly 8 times over. I wish there were video and TV show discounts, but that's my only real complaint. The new feature with cloud saving is only a major plus to me... so yes, I feel I get MORE savings and in general more from my money than I do from XBL. That said, I love XBL, but you kinda *need* to pay for it rather than have the choice.

Okay first off, PlaystationPlus is not even in the same ball park as XBL, one is the online network for the 360 and the other is a discount service.

'Here is why I hate PS+ the most. Once you stop paying for it, you loose everything except avatars and themes (the lamest part of PS+...) I don't get it.'

He doesn't get it? It's not exactly rocket science, if I stop subscribing to Sky I'll lose those channels, if I stop paying my monthly internet fee it'll be blocked.

I don't think this person as ever heard of a rental service.

'the PS1 games are crap games you most likely didn't play or want to play.'

Firstly that's your opinion so don't speak for everyone since I've liked mostly all of the PS1 games that were added. Secondly, you're not going to like every single bit of content that's ever added, but that doesn't make the service bad, people have different opinions and tastes. You may hate one thing that's liked by many other people.

So is PS+ worth it? Try it for 3 months and find out for yourself, it's not a service that can be reviewed by anyone because the games that are added appeal to different people.

Same with live. What makes these services really worth it are the discounts you get when you're a subscriber. I saved 10 bucks this week buying some DLC thanks to my gold account that costs me 5 bucks a month... those premium services are great when you use them.

You describe the ps+ as a discount service? Really? In that case, is it really worth the 50 bucks people are shelling out? In the most obvious sense, no. Especially when you can buy a few good games already on the psn service with that same hard earned cash. Themes and avatars are clearly aesthetics that only hold "value" based on an individuals preference for them. But the service is new, it's yet to find the content or have the content that's worthy of it's asking price. It is not worth it at the moment, and only time will tell if it will be in the future.

But what if my opinion of his opinion is that it is lame? Not fair to dictate what isn't fair for me to think...although I don't think ps plus is worth it. Apparently neither do alot of people, Sony have yet to release any Plus membership numbers. Even microsoft said the number of Live subs grew by 30% last year, in a year that they announced a price hike. So far we've had nothing on Plus. But they aren't to tell us there are 69 million PSN users though.

The only people that care about numbers are the trolls and fanboys. And the only people that need to compare Live and Plus are the desperate trolls and fanboys.

If you like what's offered, buy it. If you don't, don't buy it. Who buys it, who doesn't buy it, and how many people are buying something entirely different is meaningless to people who care about what they play, and not what other people play.

Is it worth it? To me its worth it and to some its not. Article like this are useless because everyone has a different opinion of "whats worth it".I paid for a year and a buddy of mine as asked if he should get the year as well. I told him to instead of going balls deep right away, why not try the 3 month subscription and then make up his mind. His 3 months is over and I no longer see the PS+ logo by his avatar.I guess to him it was not worth it.

PSN+ is more like a voucher book, and you dont have to buy it. Its just for discounts, early access and a bit of free stuff.

XBL Gold is paying money for stuff that should be free in the first place.

EDIT The difference is you can play your games online for PS3 WITHOUT having to pay extra. PSN+ has nothing to do with playing online. Its an extra service, you can pay for if you like. Your not being held ransom to get it like you are with XBL.

lol if steam offered you 3 free games a month, plus massive long running discounts, and free game trials for games which dont have demos i would buy 3 months subcription to steam+ for £11 in an instant.

:)

You get a new selection every month, sometimes its high profile stuff critter crunch or pixel junk shooter.

Wipeout HD Critter Crunch(owned this before) Zen Pinball Mushroom Wars Sam and Max Season 3(I think its season 3) Shatter Lead and Gold

and some others I believe that escape me at the moment. That's just the PS3 games, not checking the great PS1 classics and minis. Add-ons as well and discounts. oh and all these games (Except Lead and Gold I think) were rated 8+ so its not the crappy stuff either.

depends on how you look at it. if you are a hardcore gamer, then ya it's worth it. if not then it's not worth the money. in about a month it pays itself off. if you break down the math it's like $4 dollars a month. who can't afford $4 a month??!! i have it and i love it!

I have spent hundreds of dollars on psn but I still don't think it is worth it for me to get psn+. Imo the stupidest and most useless features that are offered in the psn+ program are: early access to game beta's, 1 hour trials of games, and the subscription based time frame of the games that subscribers get for free that are only playable/active during the subscription. The author has some valid points, and the program does offer some decent content and discounts SOMETIMES, but for the most part most of the content that is offered I could care less about.

And like the author said the free content that is decent is deactivated/disabled once the psn+ subscription expires and plunking down another $50 to renew psn+ another year just to get that free content re-activated is a waste, maybe if sony offered that free content at a discounted price to keep it activated indefinitely no matter what before the subscription expires might make the program more appealing. I would also suggest that instead of them offering specific content to subscribers that they should instead let the subscribers choose what content that they want to get at a discount. Also they should offer a "try before you buy" game demo feature for all psn games because all of the psn games do not have demo's.

The suggestions that I previously mentioned would not only make the psn+ program more appealing but also encourage subscribers to spend more money and at the same time weed out the bad games from the good games thus making psn better imo, and then I would more than likely subscribe to the program if those suggestions were implemented into the psn+ program.

With the free content that's based on the developer itself to release at a discount/free, not Sony.

So far I'm happy with PSN+ since its a bridge for the free games I get to play between major releases I'd like to buy - I save money by playing the free games to save up for something like Killzone 3 or Uncharted 3.

I had Live at one point, however in the ToS I never saw anything about the games I bought would be back to trial versions if I didn't renew Gold - I lost quite a bit of games because of it and vowed never again. With PSN+ I'm at least warned ahead of time I may lose those free games so if they are gone or "Disabled" then its no big surprise.

Prototype:"With the free content that's based on the developer itself to release at a discount/free, not Sony."

-Then if that is true then we should be giving our money to the developer of choice and not sony and it's psn+ service, unless of course most of the money that is collected from psn+ pays developers to give their products at a discount. And in that case if I am spending my money on discounted games then sony should give me the choice to choose what games that I want to buy at a discount especially since I am spending additional money using a service that I have already payed for.

"With PSN+ I'm at least warned ahead of time I may lose those free games so if they are gone or "Disabled" then its no big surprise."

-I am not complaining about getting free games, but sony should offer it's subscribers the choice to buy any of the free games at a discounted price to be able to keep them active beyond when the subscription expires because not everyone would care less if the games became disabled and would instead like to keep at least some of the games active beyond the subscription. And I am not going to plunk down another $50 just to have them active again for another year until they are disabled again when the subscription is up.

The thing is the games that they offer I either already have(for the most part) or I don't want them and/or have no interest in getting them even with the discount that they offer so why should I spend my money on the games or the service for that matter since I would be getting basically nothing for my money. The service is useful for people that have barely bought anything off of psn before getting psn+, but for people like me who have bought quite a bit on psn the service would be next to useless and worthless for people like me to get at it's current state.

It all comes down to If I am going to get my money's worth out of the service, and since what they offer(for the most part) I either already have or don't want that it is a useless and worthless service to me in its current state.

Ok quick and simple is the ps plus worth it hell fucking no and people please don't compare it to Xbox live please don't ps plus is not even close not even a tiny bit better than Xbox live its funny how people say hell yeah its better than live lmfao noooooo noooooo nooooooo its not better ok nooooooo ps plus is years behind live