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Got the new OCZ Titanium Alpha VX2

One of my Corsair 1066 modules decided to just fail and cease functioning a few days ago. I called Newegg Customer service and they worked out a bargain price for me on these sticks in return for my 1066 corsairs: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227138

1000 Mhz 4-4-4-15 timings. I will be doing a write up on them in a few weeks. I am hoping for at least 4-4-4-5 @ 2.4 volts and 1060 to 1120 mhz. Maybe a little 1200+ mhz action @ 5-5-5-15 I will definitely keep you guys posted.

These modules are extremely expensive, as well as my Corsair 1066 Extremes that just deceased but lets just say I got the OCZ's at a great price! I am still kicking myself for initially spending over $300 on memory but I am forced to fork up high dollar to keep up with my Vapochill LS clocks and FSB. Especially when encroaching 1:1 500 FSB. If your ram cant run a solid 1000 mhz stable, youre not moving anywhere on your OC.

I have only modified primary timings. Can anyone make Intel platform subtimgs recommendations for me? This is the first time I have owned an Intel processor since the PentiumIII-800 days. So, I am used to AMD sub's and memory configs.

These are my current timings, please recommend changes to increase performance on an Intel platform. Thanks:

I have only modified primary timings. Can anyone make Intel platform subtimgs recommendations for me? This is the first time I have owned an Intel processor since the PentiumIII-800 days. So, I am used to AMD sub's and memory configs.

These are my current timings, please recommend changes to increase performance on an Intel platform. Thanks:

So what is so good about them. I see you have good timings but is there any other reason why they are so expensive that i am just not noticing?

All it is premium binned ram with high frequency and low latency. Usually when buying ram you try and sacrifice either low latency or high frequency. Because of the incredibly high price of ram, its usually either one or the other. Premium stock will get you high Mhz and low latency like these modules. I had the original gskill HZ DDR2-800's and the biggest reason for myself needing the crazy UBER priced modules was the ability to run over 500 FSB with a 1:1 memory setup pushing tighter timings (4-4-4 not 5-5-5). I wanted low latency memory capable of very high frequency 550mhz to 600mhz at stock voltage (within warranty).

Thats basically where high priced premium binned stuff comes into play. If you are not extreme cooling I see no reason in hell to buy sticks like these. Hell, if I needed to buy these for full price theres no way I would.

Currently the Gskill HZ's and the Teamgroup 667's are great choices for air/water setups.

All it is premium binned ram with high frequency and low latency. Usually when buying ram you try and sacrifice either low latency or high frequency. Because of the incredibly high price of ram, its usually either one or the other. Premium stock will get you high Mhz and low latency like these modules. I had the original gskill HZ DDR2-800's and the biggest reason for myself needing the crazy UBER priced modules was the ability to run over 500 FSB with a 1:1 memory setup pushing tighter timings (4-4-4 not 5-5-5). I wanted low latency memory capable of very high frequency 550mhz to 600mhz at stock voltage (within warranty).

Thats basically where high priced premium binned stuff comes into play. If you are not extreme cooling I see no reason in hell to buy sticks like these. Hell, if I needed to buy these for full price theres no way I would.

Currently the Gskill HZ's and the Teamgroup 667's are great choices for air/water setups.

You helped to answer a question I have.

If I can't get my FSB on a 1:1 memory set up over 430(with DDR2-800 would mean 860Mhz, correct?), it would be pointless to purchase memory capable of higher Mhz, is that right? Such as the Corsair 8500's or TEAM 1000's?

If you can't get your FSB with a 1:1 ratio up to or over the stock Mhz of the RAM, you aren't utilizing the full capacity of the memory. Is my logic correct here?

I've been reading everything I can on DDR2 memory and still find it a little confusing.

If I can't get my FSB on a 1:1 memory set up over 430(with DDR2-800 would mean 860Mhz, correct?), it would be pointless to purchase memory capable of higher Mhz, is that right? Such as the Corsair 8500's or TEAM 1000's?

If you can't get your FSB with a 1:1 ratio up to or over the stock Mhz of the RAM, you aren't utilizing the full capacity of the memory. Is my logic correct here?

I've been reading everything I can on DDR2 memory and still find it a little confusing.

Basically you shouldnt have any problem at all since you are on an X6800 with an upwards unlocked multiplier. The problem exists with people that have e6600's on phase, etc.

Lets say theoretically your E6600 processor had the capability to clock 4.54 Ghz. And your motherboard had the capability to clock 505 FSB. That would put your multiplier at 9 X and your FSB at 505.

505 = 4.54 Ghz.

So only having a maximum of a 9x multi on the E6600 limits ones ability to use cheap ram. You would need to run your memory on a 1:1 setup and you would need memory capable of 100% stable DDR2-1010 or 505mhz each stick. Under phase cooling you would also want memory that could clock 1010mhz and have lower latency 4-4-4. Most of the cheaper 667 and 800 D9's can clock 1010 mhz (thats not a problem) but a lot of them will need you to loosen up timings to 5-5-5 and bump up voltage on the sticks. With premium binned stock you can run 4-4-4 and clock upwards of DDR2-1150 mhz sometimes.

Now, would it be pointless for you to purchase uber priced memory? Thats up to you. Since you have an X6800 you can simply use a 12X multi and avoid memory issues completely. You could run 12 X 380 FSB 1:1 or even use a divider to increase ram frequency to over 400 mhz (DDR2-800)

Since you do have an X6800 to have the ultimate phase change setup (with money being out of the equation) you could definitely by a premium binned UBER priced set of sticks and run them at a lower multi on a 1:1 setup to achieve super high ram frequency and tight timings ultimately increaseing the overall performance of your system.

Example: 9 X 505 with the memory running at DDR2-1010 and 4-4-4 timings.
Rather than a cheaper set that would produce 9 X 505 DDR2-1010 at 5-5-5 timings. Its a big money issue: Do you pay for latency? or do you pay for frequency? or do you spend almost twice that amount of money and pay for both low latency and high frequency.

Sorry for the splurge of information. I had a nice big cup of coffee today.

I'd be curious to see the effects of increased fsb:ram ratio. I saw a few hints that it might increase overall performance a la P4s which just love raw bandwidth. If that's true upclocking ram with a divider with looser timings might be worth it and might make the high-end ram have a use even without phase. I'll try to find the info again..