Spider-Man: Homecomingwas Spider-Man’s big break into the Marvel Cinematic Universe, thanks to a deal between Sony and Marvel Studios. And it was milked as much as possible.

Not only did Robert Downey Jr.‘s Tony Stark play a pivotal role in Spider-Man: Homecoming, acting as a reluctant mentor to Tom Holland‘s teen Peter Parker. It was a clear-cut continuation of their relationship fromCaptain America: Civil War, in which Tony plucked Tom out of obscurity and a pajama costume to fight in the big leagues against Team Captain America. But Tony almost wasn’t the only Avenger to appear in Spider-Man: Homecoming.

A decade ago, the two films Anthony and Joe Russo had under their belts were Welcome to Collinwood and You, Me and Dupree. Now they’re the filmmakers behindCaptain America: The Winter Soldierand Captain America: Civil War. The Russo brothers were initially a surprising choice to direct The Winter Soldier for some Marvel fans, in particular for those unfamiliar with their background in television, but they ultimately proved any skeptics wrong.

Obviously, Marvel is quite pleased with what the directors have done with their heroes, as the duo are currently gearing up to shoot Avengers: Infinity War later this year. Delivering “culmination films of everything that has happened in the Marvel universe” is no small task — indeed, it’s an incredible amount of pressure — but Civil War shows they’re up for the challenge, considering the massive balancing act they’ve accomplished with Marvel’s latest.

In our Anthony and Joe Russo interview, the brothers discuss deconstructing the superhero genre, the film’s central conflict, and Avengers: Infinity War. They both jump into spoiler territory right at the start, so, like our interview with screenwriters Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely, you may want to wait to read this SPOILER-heavy discussion until after you’ve seen Captain America: Civil War.

Here’s an interesting story. We have a pretty good idea that Ultron, the prime villain of Avengers: Age of Ultron, is birthed in some way through Tony Stark’s experimentation with armor and, likely, his AI-powered suits. But there could be another new AI character in the Avengers sequel: the outlandish-looking Vision. The character is a long-standing member of the Marvel Universe and a frequent Avenger, as well as the romantic partner of the Scarlet Witch, played in the film sequel by Elizabeth Olsen.

There’s been a lot of speculation about the possibility of Vision showing up, and now a new report says Paul Bettany is now set to play him in the film.