There's been some recent confusion with the old spoiler thread, so I'm kicking off a new one for tonight's premiere. This is going to be the one for folks who've read all the books. So anything anybody might want to talk about is in bounds. Suffice to say, if you haven't read the books, you'll probably want to stay out of here until you do...

I'll bump the old spoiler-free thread shortly in case anybody's interested. For future reference the link to that one is here

Not only will it make it to TV (already started to), but we'll see alot more of the whole Reek story line on the show than we did in the books. How different it might be remains to be seen, but HBO will not be afraid to show poor Theon being Reekified.

so I read the synopsis of this season's book and all I can say is HOLYYYYYYY SHIT! So a shitload of people are going to die? I wonder where they will leave off this season? Also...does it appear that we're looking at 8 seasons of the tv show? Two seasons for the current book and one each for the rest?

It will be hard to top that Dany scene, it was awesome! Glad they did justice to one of my favorite scenes from book 3.

Unfotunately, two of my absolute favorite moments in book 3 don't seem to be in the works, so I will be pleasantly surprised if the show manages to pull them off somehow.

The first is Strong Belwas fighting the lone taunter before Dany takes the next city. They may have Jorah do it I guess...or Selmy. Won't be the same, but could suffice if they do it right.

The other one is when Arya kills the tickler and stabs him over and over again yelling "Is there gold in the village? Is there silver in the village?" to get back at him for questioning and torturing all those people. I was NOT HAPPY when they killed off the tickler last season because I really wanted that scene on the show. Not sure it can have the same impact if it is anyone else that she kills, but we'll see if the show tries to do something similar even though the tickler is already dead.

So, Sansa going to the Eyrie got sniffed out beforehand? Is this storyline going to change? Her pretending to be Baelish's daughter doesn't really work if anyone knows she's there.

I think it is still on track. They whole marriage thing to Loras will start building and she will skip on going with Baelish, but then Tywin will catch wind of it and quash it with a fast marriage to Tyrion. Then once the whole Tyrion vs. Tywin thing goes down her drunk knight guy will get her out to spirit her to the Eyrie to join Littlefinger as his daughter. Isn't that about how it went in the book?

I think it is still on track. They whole marriage thing to Loras will start building and she will skip on going with Baelish, but then Tywin will catch wind of it and quash it with a fast marriage to Tyrion. Then once the whole Tyrion vs. Tywin thing goes down her drunk knight guy will get her out to spirit her to the Eyrie to join Littlefinger as his daughter. Isn't that about how it went in the book?

Yeah, something similar to this will happen I think. Part of the greatness of Littlefinger is his ability to react and adapt to chaos and changing situations in ways that benefit him or his agenda. In the books they didn't reveal that Littlefinger was the one behind Dontos until Sansa gets to the boat. I think on the show she will pass on going with Littlefinger so she can marry Loras, then will get slapped backed to reality with a quick marriage to Tyrion. Littlefinger will then set up the whole thing to frame Tyrion and use Dontos to get Sansa out. Non-readers will be shocked when they find out Littlefinger is behind the Dontos rescue. I have to think that Dontos will come into the story given that they made a point of showing the scene where Sansa saves Dontos from Joffrey. They showed that for a reason would be my guess.

Why would they introduce this whole storyline about Varys et al discovering Littlefinger's plan then? It's taken a lot of screen time for exactly zero benefit, if the story continues as you say. Not to mention that when Sansa is suddenly missing, no one will think to check if Littlefinger has her, since they know he wants to take her?