Alice,the situation is,You have a life sentence.You are on Death Row.Doing time.We are all in the same boat.

You are acting out 'Lonely Planet's guide for Girly Moves for Girl's to feel Smart'.You've got all the moves from hooking chivalrous goats, crocodile tears to 'not tonight dear, I have a headache'.empty and meaningless.

mv: Language is the greatest tool we have, and it begins with fire and shan't end. Know what i mean?

Thinking is the only tool we have while sentient. We do know our sentience ends. We do not know if our thinking ends when our sentience ends.

My apologies for the late response, are you implying we might not be concious of death, or we are definitly unaware of our mark upon the world when we cease?

mv, I live my life with my knowledge that consciousness is a continuum, and that I am living now in the continuum of sense attachment [ignorance and the emotions connected with ignorance - fear, greed, lust, anger, hate, etc.] and sense detachment [wisdom and the knowledge and feelings connected with wisdom - peace, selflessness, acceptance, kindness, love, etc.]. Knowing this, I am aware that every conscious being leaves his mark on the world, either the mark of Ignorance or the mark of Wisdom. Will I be aware of Ignorance and Wisdom when I cease? I do not know for certain, but my faith born of sound logic tells me yes, I will.

My logic regarding a “leaving a mark” regardless of physical or non-physical awareness is based on the reality of its definition to the one who is aware of “leaving a mark.” I am THAT is an unchanging principle of spirit.

i have thought on this topic alot in the past couple of weeks and i have a theory that seems pretty stupid or strange to alot of people want to know what you think.

lets start off by saying that the basis of this is that we are all one,and all matter is connected down to the very fabric of existent.

if we are one means as a existent we are a singularity,and we created this reality to know ourself and why . if we wanted to experience all that is us we would have to create a senerio where we have to learn to experience.trillions upon trillions of consciousnesses experiencing this reality in different ways and not one being can experience the reality"life" the same way as another and its not untill death the end of cycle that we rejoin with our self to share the experiences we have had with ourself.

theres alot more to my theroy but like i said its been weeks and i cant put it all on here.

i came to the conclusion that the only way that a singularity can succesfully do this is to limit the ability to know how this reality works because if we knew how it work then it wouldnt work.

banetoday wrote:i came to the conclusion that the only way that a singularity can succesfully do this is to limit the ability to know how this reality works because if we knew how it work then it wouldnt work.

i think it wouldnt work if you knew how everything work it would become pointless and thus you wouldnt need it.like only reading books you wrote. if that makes any sense it does to me.but if you forgot the book and the fact that you wrote it it would become a new experince and thus value.

movingalways wrote:My logic regarding a “leaving a mark” regardless of physical or non-physical awareness is based on the reality of its definition to the one who is aware of “leaving a mark.” I am THAT is an unchanging principle of spirit.

in the end there are no marks of anything left so the marks we leave are never going to be eternal cause eventually the sun will go super nova and this planet will be gone. mabey mankind will "if we colonize another planet is the exception cause then we technically could see the marks"or will not see it we will never know. at least not in the state we are in now "bodies".at least that my thought on it

movingalways wrote:My logic regarding a “leaving a mark” regardless of physical or non-physical awareness is based on the reality of its definition to the one who is aware of “leaving a mark.” I am THAT is an unchanging principle of spirit.

in the end there are no marks of anything left so the marks we leave are never going to be eternal cause eventually the sun will go super nova and this planet will be gone. mabey mankind will "if we colonize another planet is the exception cause then we technically could see the marks"or will not see it we will never know. at least not in the state we are in now "bodies".at least that my thought on it