Brilliant, just brilliant. Is it Francois Hollande posting? Lets take money from the rich and give them to the the poor. Cos it's not like Fed and Nole actually earned their millions through hard work by winning matches.

Haha, it's like you know nothing of the situation. It has nothing to do with taking money away from the top guns and everything to do with the fact that the suits in charge are getting a far higher cut than they should. Fact of the matter is when players getting DA to the slams can barely break even something needs to be changed and that means altering how the money is distributed.

Haha, it's like you know nothing of the situation. It has nothing to do with taking money away from the top guns and everything to do with the fact that the suits in charge are getting a far higher cut than they should. Fact of the matter is when players getting DA to the slams can barely break even something needs to be changed and that means altering how the money is distributed.

Well put.

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Brilliant, just brilliant. Is it Francois Hollande posting? Lets take money from the rich and give them to the the poor. Cos it's not like Fed and Nole actually earned their millions through hard work by winning matches.

If the entirety of your argument is "oh noes Socialism!!!" with the implication that the whole concept is offensive, then I don't think there's much more that's worth me saying to you on the subject.

Brilliant, just brilliant. Is it Francois Hollande posting? Lets take money from the rich and give them to the the poor. Cos it's not like Fed and Nole actually earned their millions through hard work by winning matches.

Haha, it's like you know nothing of the situation. It has nothing to do with taking money away from the top guns and everything to do with the fact that the suits in charge are getting a far higher cut than they should.

According to whom? And it's still taking money from one group of people (presumably "rich") to give them to the others (presumably "poor").

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If the entirety of your argument is "oh noes Socialism!!!" with the implication that the whole concept is offensive, then I don't think there's much more that's worth me saying to you on the subject.

The concept of socialism? Yes, it's offensive cos it's based on lies and and only lies.

AnnaK, it seems to me that you are just looking for some attention, trolling along the way. but hey, you are good at it.

OK, define 'lies' and all of this BS socialism stuff. Canada, Norway, Sweden are pretty much socialist countries doing well. we are talking about lower ranked players here who can barely make it. Think about it, there are billions of people living on this planet, but 200 of them are top tennis athletes who work their arses off and they can hardly survive, ... we are talking here about 'middle class' in tennis ... if you don't have a middle class in any society, then forget about it.

AnnaK, it seems to me that you are just looking for some attention, trolling along the way. but hey, you are good at it.

OK, define 'lies' and all of this BS socialism stuff. Canada, Norway, Sweden are pretty much socialist countries doing well. we are talking about lower ranked players here who can barely make it. Think about it, there are billions of people living on this planet, but 200 of them are top tennis athletes who work their arses off and they can hardly survive, ... we are talking here about 'middle class' in tennis ... if you don't have a middle class in any society, then forget about it.

what are your credentials btw? I'd love to know.

Canada, Norway and Sweden are not socialist countries... yet. Believe me, I was born in socialist country, the one where money were distributed "justly". I saw my grandmother suffering a heart attack while queuing for five hours to buy some butter so excuse my scepticism.

Well the whole point of a boycott is that demands are met (and not that the boycott itself is realized).

It's a game of one-upmanship - a face off.

Exactly. Which is why I suggested that this may be just a means to twist the slams' arms. To be honest, I think even Wimbledon would be vulnerable to the top players missing. I won't watch much tennis if the top guys are not playing.

On winning DC and its overall importance in the discussion for all-time greats

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Davis Cup should never have really mattered in the GOAT discussion anyway since it's a team event. If you're talking about the GOAT singles player then you should mainly look at individual results.If some unknown talent came out of some random tiny country (no chance to win DC) and won 20 slams, no one would give a single shit if that player didn't have DC. The fact is, success in DC is largely determined by what country you come from or play for in the first place, which most players haven't had any control over.

The concept of socialism? Yes, it's offensive cos it's based on lies and and only lies.

+1 communism was run by the olygarchs
it was the biggest scam ever
thank God for putin who ran those slimy bastards out of russia

tennis doesnt need socialism- its a flawed idea because the people with the money will never give it up
and the people who dont have it will never rise up so will become slaves like they were under stalin

right now the slams are run olygarchs
most tv rights money
and attendence money goes to those greedy pigs
very little goes to tennis players
they feed the top 50 with crumbs
the real money for top guys comes from the slave labor camp owners "nike adidas" who work asians 20 hours a day for 50p so that someone in the west can pay $100 for a pair of sneakers

fact is those slave labor camps are what pay the top 4

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On winning DC and its overall importance in the discussion for all-time greats

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Originally Posted by Orbis

Davis Cup should never have really mattered in the GOAT discussion anyway since it's a team event. If you're talking about the GOAT singles player then you should mainly look at individual results.If some unknown talent came out of some random tiny country (no chance to win DC) and won 20 slams, no one would give a single shit if that player didn't have DC. The fact is, success in DC is largely determined by what country you come from or play for in the first place, which most players haven't had any control over.