Unfortunately this version I got from RockTV is the censored version... I had a friend who was trying to put the audio from a CD, but he said the video is full of cuts and he's having an hard time synching it... it's been a while since he started so I guess he shelved the project...

I'm definitely going to get this when I get home tonight. Thank you Prez!

For those of you who like GnR but never got to see them, this was in '88 during their prime - when they were still a little hungry. I was lucky enough to see them in '88 (not this concert) and they destroyed the place. This is the GnR we knew and loved.

Today I am playing this DVD at maximum volume. If you need it, I just hopped on the torrent again. I also have a YouTube link now:

It was really disappointing to see the state Steven Adler is in on that VH1 show. I thought for sure he had gotten his shit together. When you have a drug-induced stroke and later continue to do drugs, it only demonstrates the power of addiction. No wonder the other guys have passed over him on reunion opportunities.

I am sure it will inevitably be broadcast on a high-definition channel thus we might see a better-looking version someday, but the concert was recorded on standard betacam videotapes, the resolution of which are not up to HD's specs.

Edit: Watched a bit of it, superb. This is a young band at their prime, intense, tight and energetic. The sound is beautiful, and the quality is simply outstanding. A bit odd not to see any "Presence Productions" promo at the end of the gig, but besides that, this is just about perfect. The short promo at the beginning works great!

It's hard to think this was converted from PAL to NTSC, seriously, how did you pull that off with such results? A lot of people would really like to know.

Thanks very kindly for this one! I was on the fence about getting it since uncut/uncensored versions circulate, but not nearly in the same quality as presented here. Only a few songs "suffer" from the censoring, but it's never too bad. As for the performance, well, what can be said that already hasn't? I think there are probably tighter performances from this era (the pro-shot video from Melbourne from December '88), but it ain't too shabby here at all, and combined with the excitement of them just getting to be known and blowing people away, makes this essential viewing/listening.

Hello there, is the original PAL capture still available/back upped?the PAL -> NTSC converting suffers in quality.....in general and also easily to be seen on this version. i'd always leave it in the format being broadcasted.

Yes, I do still have the PAL version. But then I would have to convert the MTV Promo Clip from NTSC to PAL.. so, either way, something is getting converted.

I do see your point, but I do not use an automated conversion program; I do it personally "by hand," so to speak. When I began work on this production years ago, we had a discussion thread on exactly your concern. Samples from both versions were posted, and no one who did not know exactly what to look for (and some who did) could tell the difference. Thus, I opted to make it an NTSC release. A few people did later ask if I could post a PAL version - I declined and said I did not want two versions floating around. I could give the matter another look if enough people requested me to, but yours is the first I have received in several years.

As an aside, I should mention that a while back I picked up the Westwood One radio broadcast of this show (pre-FM source, of course) to compare the sound quality. I was disappointed to find the Westwood show is a "false stereo." The band's mix is exactly the same as it is here... all the trickery occurs with crowd noise -- not only is the crowd noise in stereo, most of it is fake! I am guessing it was added in to give the show a more live and exciting vibe. Watching the video gives it away. For example: Axl introduces "My Michelle" -- in the video the audience gives polite applause, while in the Westwood broadcast the "crowd" goes apeshit fucking bonkers. Ah well. So the only "improvement" the Westwood audio provides is the non-censoring of the occasional word.

hey, thanks for the fast and honest reply. i've had your version for some time but never could find out the "source" until i got a pm last night. i'll give some more Ritz88 info and authoring thoughts little later, gonna run in a moment.

This is great, just GREAT!!!!! Thanks Pres. Takes me back to when I saw them at Hammersmith late 87.

I think I still have this somewhere on an old VHS, from a non-MTV broadcast. I don't remember it being beeped, but it probably was. I think it was a BBC broadcast, who even back then were surprisingly less conservative than MTV.

No, not that version. I also fail to see how something that was recorded from an FM broadcast is "pre-FM." My source is the Westwood reels themselves. I imagine it would sound about the same, but without the broadcast compression.

Limulus wrote:

may i ask this:

- when was the re-broadcast?- how exactly did you transfer from tv to harddisc?

- I do not remember the exact date and would need to break out the files sent to me to at least get the year, but this was around five years ago.- The broadcast was recorded to a DVR, and those files were copied directly over to a disc for me to use.

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