Dermatherm update is fairly new so I'm sure this comparison would be pretty tough until plenty of people have ran both products. I don't think too many people have been let down by Eviscerate results, it's been out for a long time and always sells well. Why not run both one after the other and do your own experiment!

Dermatherm update is fairly new so I'm sure this comparison would be pretty tough until plenty of people have ran both products. I don't think too many people have been let down by Eviscerate results, it's been out for a long time and always sells well. Why not run both one after the other and do your own experiment!

Agreed, we just revamped the Dermatherm formula so far we have had nothing but stellar reviews. Have several logs up and running if anyone wants to follow those.

I still prefer running OG to Smolder, but I understand that for those who don't want the intense burn the need for Smolder. I'm running Smolder right now because Matt was kind enough to ship me a bottle, but I'll be running OG again in two months.

capsacian. What people are feeling with the "burn" from Eviscerate. Simply the nerve reaction, no real damage, but highly effective. Lipo-Y was some good stuff, Lipoderm Ultra was my favorite. Napalm which was the improved LU from Avant Labs is actually in the Eviscerate formula, it's Napalm+extra goodies. Matt licensed the formula from Avant since he was such a big fan and improved upon it.

capsacian. What people are feeling with the "burn" from Eviscerate. Simply the nerve reaction, no real damage, but highly effective. Lipo-Y was some good stuff, Lipoderm Ultra was my favorite. Napalm which was the improved LU from Avant Labs is actually in the Eviscerate formula, it's Napalm+extra goodies. Matt licensed the formula from Avant since he was such a big fan and improved upon it.

No.

Originally Posted by Rhadam

I'm guessing capiscian, which is an ingredient in Eviscerate. I believe the amounts are different in certain versions, and it also pertains to the burning effect on skin ?? wru dsade

Definitely no.

Originally Posted by Geoforce

Yes. Eviscerate OG has more capsacian than Eviscerate Smolder and OG is about 15% more effective because of this according to Matt.

Does anyone have a TWIN BROTHER? I would like to have each twin run DermaTherm and the other eviscerate for 8 weeks and Ill put them on same diet and cardio regimen....

We need more TWIN test trials lol

-Matt

Let's just clone some twins and use them for all sorts of scientific research.

Right now NP has Eviscerate OG for just 30 bucks which is about as cheap as you'll ever see it guys. This is a product that has been selling out since Matt brought it to the market years ago. I've got some on right now

Does anyone have a TWIN BROTHER? I would like to have each twin run DermaTherm and the other eviscerate for 8 weeks and Ill put them on same diet and cardio regimen....

We need more TWIN test trials lol

-Matt

In the UK, Dermatherm is £54.99 and Eviscerate is £39.99.

Are you confident that Dermatherm is significantly better to warrant the increase in price?

I have gone through several bottles of Eviscerate (OG and Smolder), I am curious to know why this is better to advocate over a 30% price difference. If it is significantly better I would give it a run.

Are you confident that Dermatherm is significantly better to warrant the increase in price?

I have gone through several bottles of Eviscerate (OG and Smolder), I am curious to know why this is better to advocate over a 30% price difference. If it is significantly better I would give it a run.

Could it be cost of ingredients? Not sure what the ingredient profile of Eviscerate.

Are you confident that Dermatherm is significantly better to warrant the increase in price?

I have gone through several bottles of Eviscerate (OG and Smolder), I am curious to know why this is better to advocate over a 30% price difference. If it is significantly better I would give it a run.

I really enjoy both products (Smolder and DermaTherm) OG eviscerate was just to much for me personally... ouch...

I am unsure how long a bottle of smolder lasts...and I am unsure of the mgs in each ingredients, but I do know you get 130 LARGE pumps of gel with DermaTherm and I laid out the mg potency per pump.

Once again -- I love both products and have nothing but good things to report for them

I'm pretty sure both Smolder and OG have more cap in them. As for per pump ingredients I have no idea, never seen before. I know there is a ton of goodies in Eviscerate and Matt isn't known for under-dosing products! I'll try and see if Avant ever had a per pump MG of stuff from Napalm considering Napalm is in Eviscerate and Smolder along with other goodies. I'll also direct him here.

I'm pretty sure both Smolder and OG have more cap in them. As for per pump ingredients I have no idea, never seen before. I know there is a ton of goodies in Eviscerate and Matt isn't known for under-dosing products! I'll try and see if Avant ever had a per pump MG of stuff from Napalm considering Napalm is in Eviscerate and Smolder along with other goodies. I'll also direct him here.

Thank you.

Eviscerate would have to have less than 70% of the actives of Dermatherm per bottle to be less cost effective in the UK (approximately).

At the moment it is my favourite topical. It would be nice for a rough clarification.

OG or Smolder? Honestly in the winter I don't notice the burn near as much with OG. I actually prefer OG, but I know many prefer the lessened scorch of Smolder. It's also one of those things that the body adjusts to very quickly. After a week on OG the burn is pretty mild. Weirdly it burns the most in the shower as you wash off, but 5 minutes after that it's completely gone. Definitely keep me posted on your results, I think you'll love it!