Senate Democrats are urging Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) to be aggressive in the standoff over a government shutdown with House Republicans.

They say Reid should counter the House Republican government funding bill by not only stripping language defunding ObamaCare, but by increasing funding for the rest of the government.

Democrats say Reid can afford to go on offense against Republicans given their division, and polls that show most voters would blame them if the government shuts down.

Were going to try to get as high a CR level as we can get, said Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), the third-ranking member of the Democratic caucus, referring to the stop-gap spending measure. We are not going to be held hostage.

We think it should be higher than the $988 [billion] level, absolutely. But were not going to have a negotiation that deals with extraneous issues, he added. Were going to negotiate to get as a high a level as possible.

But the first step for Democrats, Schumer said, is to remove the ObamaCare issue from the government funding resolution......

Yes, Reid. Get more agressive like other Democrats in academia and at the state level.. call for death, injury, disease, torture to be suffered by your opponents and their children. Get with it, man. In you position you can do more than just wish it happens!

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posted on 09/21/2013 5:07:17 AM PDT
by WilliamofCarmichael
(If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)

The Democrats have no cards to play. The GOP was going to get blamed for everything anyway, even though they did vote to fund the Government. Reid can strip the CR of Obamacare “defunding” but the House GOP doesn't have to even vote on. Obamacare is done if the GOP sticks to their guns. The election is over a year away and the most Obama and the Rats can hold out on a shutdown is 3 months before the tables turn on them. There would be a short term effect on the economy but as soon as the Rats cave then the economy would take off.

Yes. They need to stand shoulder to shoulder because the Left will never give them an inch.

Note below [This is how the Left plans to increase the cap in the CR language and then scream that the GOP wants to “kill (fill in the blank) with their mean spirited, drastic cuts.]

.... “The [2011] Budget Control Act sets a spending cap of $967 billion for fiscal year 2014. If Democrats boost funding levels in the stop-gap spending measure, sequestration will require a bigger automatic cut after New Years Day to keep below the BCA cap.

The stopgap spending measure passed by the House covers October, November and half of December. The new fiscal year begins Oct. 1.

Increasing funding levels for the start of the fiscal year could serve as a precedent for mitigating the automatic cuts looming for the rest of the fiscal year after January. Democrats could argue the cuts needed to bring the total years spending back down to $967 billion would be too drastic.

Senate Democratic sources say Reid could increase the funding level in the House-passed resolution by using the same floor procedure hes expected to use to remove language defunding ObamaCare.”.....

I, too, am extremely proud that the Republican House leadership pulled the caucus together to finally take a firm principled stand againt the “Horror” know as Obamacare. But.....the statement and stand, go way futher then just Obamacare. Obama and his Obamabot Democrat Party are enroute to destroying the American economy, American jobs, America medical care, America’s position as the number one power in the world, increasing poverty in the USA by signifant count, keeping people of color in economic bondage, destroying free enterprize, etc. That’s what this fight is all about!!!

Now....we, the American people need to really, seriously, embark upon an action program, by notifying our representatives in Congress, that we want this Obama activity stopped....dead in its tracks. So....keep the calls & e-mails to Congress Critters in both parties going, non-stop....and,, make certain that everyone of you and your friends, relatives, work associates, etc., signs & endorses, the Lee/Cruz Petition to Defund Obamacare Ignore, Democrats, media, RINOS, etc. They are frightened silly that a sea change is underway in the American Republic!!!

The question you all should shout from the rooftops today and tomorrow is: Where id Republican Leader of the Senator, Mitch McConnell??? it’s time for McConnell to come out of hiding and pull the Senate Pubbies to act as one unit to Defund Obamacare. Example, Congressman, Peter King, (NY) was against the CR voted for yesterday in the House, yet he joined in voting Aye on the CR!!!

So.....fellow Freepers, Ameericans, all, get with the program, get on the internet today or tomorrow, and sign & endorse the Lee/Cruz Petition to Defund Obamacare!!! Join the already 1,600,000 Americans that have already signed & endorsed this most important petition!!! NOW!!! IMMEDIATELY!!! TODAY!!!

The left perceives weakness. It’s well past time that they got it shoved back in their faces. In spades.

As the gauntlet has been picked up, we have to pick it and back the conservatives. We must. Because if conservatives fail to show themselves as willing to fight, we will lose far more in the longer term. Like the country itself.

If the conservative consensus emerges that there is absolutely no chance to affect the outcomes through the political process in Washington, then the next move will be to pivot and try to change it dramatically at the state level. I.e. through attempts at secession. And once that gets going, things are likely to get real ugly, real quick.

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posted on 09/21/2013 5:22:16 AM PDT
by RKBA Democrat
(Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)

Reid and his bunch resemble a false front on a studio film set. Fake. To further their incessant march to transform America into a one party government, they (and their accomplices in the media and academia) have no problem lying to and hurting the very people they purport to help.

There is no compromising with them - to do so is giving them the weapon they’ll wield against you.

Reid must be put on the defensive. He and his bunch are not supported or liked by a majority of Americans.

“THESE are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated. OBAMA, with an army to enforce his tyranny, has declared that he has a right (not only to TAX) but “to BIND us in ALL CASES WHATSOEVER” and if being bound in that manner, is not slavery, then is there not such a thing as slavery upon earth. Even the expression is impious; for so unlimited a power can belong only to God...

There are cases which cannot be overdone by language, and this is one. There are persons, too, who see not the full extent of the evil which threatens them; they solace themselves with hopes that the enemy, if he succeed, will be merciful. It is the madness of folly, to expect mercy from those who have refused to do justice; and even mercy, where conquest is the object, is only a trick of war; the cunning of the fox is as murderous as the violence of the wolf, and we ought to guard equally against both.”

STAND TO, BE ALERT, There may never be another chance...This will be a moment that lives forever and you can tell your grandchildren you were there.

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