I know much about pools and estimated payoffs and such. Once before I witnessed a 'very suspicious' race and payoffs at the Meadows in PA and brought it to the attention of the racing Gods there. Of course, it was no surprise that they did nothing and didn't even bother to follow up with me. If their phone hasn't been ringing since last nights (Friday, March 10th) 5th race, I'd be really surprised. Check out this result as the 1/9 favorite (naturally with Dave Palone driving) finished off the board, 4th. Here is what the payoffs were - gotta wonder, particularly about the Exacta and Trifecta payoffs with the 1/9 tanked. 1 Endeared Hanover (10.50-1) $23.00 7.80 41.20 6 Lillian Ford (11.10-1) 13.40 58.40 5 Feel The Pulse (7.10-1) 37.40

$2 exacta paid $197.60$2 trifecta paid $541

I suspect with Palone finishing fourth there likely were some bridge jumpers around Pittsburgh last night.

I know much about pools and estimated payoffs and such. Once before I witnessed a 'very suspicious' race and payoffs at the Meadows in PA and brought it to the attention of the racing Gods there. Of course, it was no surprise that they did nothing and didn't even bother to follow up with me. If their phone hasn't been ringing since last nights (Friday, March 10th) 5th race, I'd be really surprised. Check out this result as the 1/9 favorite (naturally with Dave Palone driving) finished off the board, 4th. Here is what the payoffs were - gotta wonder, particularly about the Exacta and Trifecta payoffs with the 1/9 tanked. 1 Endeared Hanover (10.50-1) $23.00 7.80 41.20 6 Lillian Ford (11.10-1) 13.40 58.40 5 Feel The Pulse (7.10-1) 37.40

$2 exacta paid $197.60$2 trifecta paid $541

I suspect with Palone finishing fourth there likely were some bridge jumpers around Pittsburgh last night.

This is why harness racing has a bad name and people think it's all fixed. When you see a payoff like this how can you think otherwise?

$2 Tri. $541? Come on give me a break already with this nonsence.

And there are goofs out there that don't think small purses contribute to more cheating. This race was PRIME example of CHEATING!!!!

I know much about pools and estimated payoffs and such. Once before I witnessed a 'very suspicious' race and payoffs at the Meadows in PA and brought it to the attention of the racing Gods there. Of course, it was no surprise that they did nothing and didn't even bother to follow up with me. If their phone hasn't been ringing since last nights (Friday, March 10th) 5th race, I'd be really surprised. Check out this result as the 1/9 favorite (naturally with Dave Palone driving) finished off the board, 4th. Here is what the payoffs were - gotta wonder, particularly about the Exacta and Trifecta payoffs with the 1/9 tanked. 1 Endeared Hanover (10.50-1) $23.00 7.80 41.20 6 Lillian Ford (11.10-1) 13.40 58.40 5 Feel The Pulse (7.10-1) 37.40

$2 exacta paid $197.60$2 trifecta paid $541

I suspect with Palone finishing fourth there likely were some bridge jumpers around Pittsburgh last night.

Based on the prices, it would appear that no one other than these and Palone could even figure in the race. As a result, neither price shocks me.

An interesting note is that not one -- but two -- 1/9s were off the board at the Meadows last night.

This is nothing new ! for years we see these kind of bullshit prices in chicago ! this occurs when the thieves invite too many people to dinner and everybody eats too much ! hopefully they will investigate that race ? how many 4/5 off the rail with tony did we see not hit the board in the last ten years where the pay-offs sucked ! too many ! lets face it where there's gambling there will be cheating , but sometimes its undetectable in this case you would have to be blind to not see the thiefs got greedy ! RTP

paco and enricky went to the green doors place and saw the diving up of the monie after that fishy race late last nite.oh boy did they put one in.when those mizers are buying drink after drink you now they made alot of on a fixxed races.i hear the guy who works in paddock told the ilinois police to bug green doors becuse that is where the guys go to talk about fixxes and setting up a race nowadays.if you are a honest horseman dont go to green doors place by track becuse that is where bad bisness is taking place.stay honest and good and you wont have no problem.crooks go there to make fun of fixxes and set up more fixxes but now the ditecktives will be looking in.truth

paco and enricky went to the green doors place and saw the diving up of the monie after that fishy race late last nite.oh boy did they put one in.when those mizers are buying drink after drink you now they made alot of on a fixxed races.i hear the guy who works in paddock told the ilinois police to bug green doors becuse that is where the guys go to talk about fixxes and setting up a race nowadays.if you are a honest horseman dont go to green doors place by track becuse that is where bad bisness is taking place.stay honest and good and you wont have no problem.crooks go there to make fun of fixxes and set up more fixxes but now the ditecktives will be looking in.truth

And these guys will be looking for the rat that tipped the detectives off. SHudda you mouth!!!

The Meadows pools are small. One person could have easily bet a lot of money on Palone across the board and influenced the odds. That has no direct correlation on the tri and exacta payoffs..........does it Dan? Thank goodness I did not learn the game from someone with your logic.

The Meadows pools are small. One person could have easily bet a lot of money on Palone across the board and influenced the odds. That has no direct correlation on the tri and exacta payoffs..........does it Dan? Thank goodness I did not learn the game from someone with your logic.

I remember a few years ago at the Big M Ledford circled the Field with a horse at 40-1. I can't think of the name ,it will come to me eventually,(It raced at Balmoral within the last few months) The second place horse was like 27-1. I missed the tri. Everyone around me and I thought the exacta would pay6-8 hundred maybe more. No--it paid $270! Hell- I've had 10-1 and 12-1 horse exacta pay $270. Ahh-Vandal Hanover--that was the horse. So even at the mecca of harness racing there are some shady deals going down.

The Meadows pools are small. One person could have easily bet a lot of money on Palone across the board and influenced the odds.

I think you're right, based on the huge show prices. One person bet a lot in the straight pools and there wasn't corresponding action in the exotics. As was pointed out the top three were all well above their morning line. The order of finish was 3rd betting choice over 4th over 2nd, not some unplayable longshots.

The $541 Trifecta was for $2. This was the Meadows in PA, not the Meadowlands. One can only imagine what the numbers would have looked it IF it was at the Meadowlands. Oh well, onward and upward...what's done is done.