EQUALITY! SJWs Get High School Musical Canceled After White Student Lands Lead

Student activists and community members helped to get a production of "The Hunchback of Notre Dame"canceled at an Ithaca, New York high school after a white student was cast in a lead role.

According to the Ithaca Journal, five student activists wrote letters and put out a list of demands aftera white student, who the SJW group concedes is a "a stellar actor, singer, and dancer," was cast asEsmeralda. Additionally, black student, 17-year-old Maddi Carroll, quit the play after the white studentwas cast.

“It shows you that theater wasn’t made for you," Carroll told the Ithaca Journal. "And it shows you that,if you can’t get the parts that are written for you, what parts are you going to get?”

In a letter that included a list of demands, the student activists demanded the high school girl cast asEsmeralda be removed from the role because, despite her talent, she's the "epitome of whiteness."

"Unfortunately, it has also come to our attention that the casting of this musical is antithetical to the verymessage which beats throughout the heart of the musical itself," reads the letter from the "diverse groupof students." "We speak, specifically, of the casting choice of the role of Esmerelda. Before we speakfurther, we want to stress that the talented young woman who was cast in this role is a stellar actor, singer,and dancer. She has worked hard to hone her craft and the IHS stage, or any stage, would be lucky tohave her. Our concern is not with her, but with the fact that in terms of demographics, she is the wrongchoice for this role."

"The young woman who was cast in this role has hazel eyes, blonde hair, and is the epitome of whiteness,"the activists add.

The play was canceled. In a statement on Monday, Ithaca City School District announced plans for thehigh school to put on "another collaborative project" in the play's place.

"We thank everyone for their contributions as we delve further into complex conversations," said theschool district. "In addition, we ask that you please stay engaged as we continually work to createcommunity-wide support for our students and school community."

"Our goal was not just to shut down the musical," said the 17-year-old who quit the play over the castingof a white student. "We want to get a socially conscious director to replace the current director so thateverybody can participate.”

And since we know there is no appeasing the social justice Left, the activists posted more demands onFacebook after the play was canceled.

"Stop the racist and openly stated policy of 'color blind' casting in the ICSD," says the post. "Becauseof institutionalized racism this results in white children being cast in roles written as white parts and alsowhite children being cast in roles that were specifically intended for people of color."

Speaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in line with Martin Luther King, Jr.’smessage of love, unity, understanding, and inclusion."

"Our endgame," they told Fox, "is a performing arts program with more unity, more inclusion, and musicalwhere we can all experience the joy and bonding of inclusive performing arts following best theatricalpractices."

To recap, it's racist to cast a white girl as Esmeralda, but it's totally progressive to get her canned fromthe position because of her skin color. Got it?

So now its âracistâ for White people to play White characters in playswritten by White peoplethat are set in White countriesâŠ.https://www.dailywire.com/news/26841/high-school-cancels-musical-amid-outrage-over-amanda-prestigiacomoByAMANDA PRESTIGIACOMOFebruary 6, 2018EQUALITY! SJWs Get High School Musical Canceled After White Student Lands LeadStudent activists and community members helped to get a production of "TheHunchback of Notre Dame"canceled at an Ithaca, New York high school after a white student was cast in a lead role.According to the Ithaca Journal, five student activists wrote letters and put

*Five* ignorant lying assholes, and the administration didn't have theballs to stand up to them.

out a list of demands aftera white student, who the SJW group concedes is a "a stellar actor, singer,and dancer," was cast asEsmeralda. Additionally, black student, 17-year-old Maddi Carroll, quit theplay after the white studentwas cast.

Every Maddi Carroll I can find on Google is white. I demand this racistbitch change her name.

âIt shows you that theater wasnât made for you," Carroll told the IthacaJournal. "And it shows you that,if you canât get the parts that are written for you, what parts are you goingto get?â

Hopefully something in the rewarding field of fast food.

In a letter that included a list of demands, the student activists demandedthe high school girl cast asEsmeralda be removed from the role because, despite her talent, she's the"epitome of whiteness.""Unfortunately, it has also come to our attention that the casting of thismusical is antithetical to the verymessage which beats throughout the heart of the musical itself," reads theletter from the "diverse groupof students." "We speak, specifically, of the casting choice of the role ofEsmerelda. Before we speakfurther, we want to stress that the talented young woman who was cast in thisrole is a stellar actor, singer,and dancer. She has worked hard to hone her craft and the IHS stage, or anystage, would be lucky tohave her. Our concern is not with her, but with the fact that in terms ofdemographics, she is the wrongchoice for this role."

So no whites allowed

"The young woman who was cast in this role has hazel eyes, blonde hair, andis the epitome of whiteness,"the activists add.The play was canceled. In a statement on Monday, Ithaca City School Districtannounced plans for thehigh school to put on "another collaborative project" in the play's place.

They'd do better shutting down the department.

"We thank everyone for their contributions as we delve further into complexconversations," said theschool district. "In addition, we ask that you please stay engaged as wecontinually work to createcommunity-wide support for our students and school community."

At least the non white segment

"Our goal was not just to shut down the musical," said the 17-year-old

willfully ignorant lying racist bitch

who

quit the play over the castingof a white student. "We want to get a socially conscious director to replacethe current director so thateverybody can participate.â

As long as their not white, you worthless racist bitch.

And since we know there is no appeasing the social justice Left, theactivists posted more demands onFacebook after the play was canceled."Stop the racist and openly stated policy of 'color blind' casting in the

So non color blind casting is racist, and now color blind casting isracist. Their only definition of non racist is 'no whites allowed'

ICSD," says the post. "Becauseof institutionalized racism this results in white children being cast inroles written as white parts and alsowhite children being cast in roles that were specifically intended for people of color."Speaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.âsmessage of love, unity, understanding, and inclusion."

And being a liar and a thief and a womanizer and a plagiarist.

"Our endgame," they told Fox, "is a performing arts program with more unity,more inclusion,

no whites allowed

and musical

where we can all

as long as we're not white

experience the joy and bonding of inclusive

no whites allowed

performing arts

following best theatricalpractices."

Which is 'no whites allowed'

To recap, it's racist to cast a white girl as Esmeralda, but it's totallyprogressive to get her canned fromthe position because of her skin color. Got it?

Here's another article with more from this nasty little lying racistbitch and an adult nasty lying racist bitch who was behind much of it.They're upset because the cast of HUNCHBACK was *only* 25% black, andthat's not 'diversity'

So now its â€œracistâ€ for White people to play White characters in playswritten by White peoplethat are set in White countriesâ€¦.https://www.dailywire.com/news/26841/high-school-cancels-musical-amid-outrage-over-amanda-prestigiacomoByAMANDA PRESTIGIACOMOFebruary 6, 2018EQUALITY! SJWs Get High School Musical Canceled After White Student Lands LeadStudent activists and community members helped to get a production of "TheHunchback of Notre Dame"canceled at an Ithaca, New York high school after a white student was cast ina lead role.According to the Ithaca Journal, five student activists wrote letters and put

*Five* ignorant lying assholes, and the administration didn't have theballs to stand up to them.

out a list of demands aftera white student, who the SJW group concedes is a "a stellar actor, singer,and dancer," was cast asEsmeralda. Additionally, black student, 17-year-old Maddi Carroll, quit theplay after the white studentwas cast.

Every Maddi Carroll I can find on Google is white. I demand this racistbitch change her name.

â€œIt shows you that theater wasnâ€™t made for you," Carroll told the IthacaJournal. "And it shows you that,if you canâ€™t get the parts that are written for you, what parts are you goingto get?â€

Hopefully something in the rewarding field of fast food.

In a letter that included a list of demands, the student activists demandedthe high school girl cast asEsmeralda be removed from the role because, despite her talent, she's the"epitome of whiteness.""Unfortunately, it has also come to our attention that the casting of thismusical is antithetical to the verymessage which beats throughout the heart of the musical itself," reads theletter from the "diverse groupof students." "We speak, specifically, of the casting choice of the role ofEsmerelda. Before we speakfurther, we want to stress that the talented young woman who was cast in thisrole is a stellar actor, singer,and dancer. She has worked hard to hone her craft and the IHS stage, or anystage, would be lucky tohave her. Our concern is not with her, but with the fact that in terms ofdemographics, she is the wrongchoice for this role."

So no whites allowed

"The young woman who was cast in this role has hazel eyes, blonde hair, andis the epitome of whiteness,"the activists add.The play was canceled. In a statement on Monday, Ithaca City School Districtannounced plans for thehigh school to put on "another collaborative project" in the play's place.

They'd do better shutting down the department.

"We thank everyone for their contributions as we delve further into complexconversations," said theschool district. "In addition, we ask that you please stay engaged as wecontinually work to createcommunity-wide support for our students and school community."

At least the non white segment

"Our goal was not just to shut down the musical," said the 17-year-old

willfully ignorant lying racist bitchwho

quit the play over the castingof a white student. "We want to get a socially conscious director to replacethe current director so thateverybody can participate.â€

As long as their not white, you worthless racist bitch.

And since we know there is no appeasing the social justice Left, theactivists posted more demands onFacebook after the play was canceled."Stop the racist and openly stated policy of 'color blind' casting in the

So non color blind casting is racist, and now color blind casting isracist. Their only definition of non racist is 'no whites allowed'

ICSD," says the post. "Becauseof institutionalized racism this results in white children being cast inroles written as white parts and alsowhite children being cast in roles that were specifically intended for people of color."Speaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.â€™smessage of love, unity, understanding, and inclusion."

And being a liar and a thief and a womanizer and a plagiarist.

"Our endgame," they told Fox, "is a performing arts program with more unity,more inclusion,

no whites allowedand musical

where we can all

as long as we're not whiteexperience the joy and bonding of inclusiveno whites allowedperforming arts

following best theatricalpractices."

Which is 'no whites allowed'

To recap, it's racist to cast a white girl as Esmeralda, but it's totallyprogressive to get her canned fromthe position because of her skin color. Got it?

Here's another article with more from this nasty little lying racistbitch and an adult nasty lying racist bitch who was behind much of it.They're upset because the cast of HUNCHBACK was *only* 25% black, andthat's not 'diversity'https://www.onenewsnow.com/education/2018/02/07/high-school-cancels-musical-over-white-castingWTF?Who says Esmerelda was black? And what the Hell kind of racial make-updo they think 1482 Paris had, anyway?

I'm not an expert in the demographics of 15th century Paris but I amgoing to be very surprised if an expert comes along and tells us thatthe percentage of blacks was more than one or two percent. I fail tounderstand how any reasonable person could think that 25% of the castbeing black wasn't (more than) enough for purposes of historicalaccuracy. Of course, none of these students appears to be remotelyreasonable.

I am also astounded at the claim that some of the parts were written for"people of colour". I've never read the book or seen a film adaptationbut were *any* of the characters in the book anything but white?

So now its Âè£racistÂï¿œÂ for White people to play White characters in playswritten by White peoplethat are set in White countriesÂï¿œÂ.https://www.dailywire.com/news/26841/high-school-cancels-musical-amid-outrage-over-amanda-prestigiacomoByAMANDA PRESTIGIACOMOFebruary 6, 2018EQUALITY! SJWs Get High School Musical Canceled After White Student Lands LeadStudent activists and community members helped to get a production of "TheHunchback of Notre Dame"canceled at an Ithaca, New York high school after a white student was cast ina lead role.According to the Ithaca Journal, five student activists wrote letters and put

*Five* ignorant lying assholes, and the administration didn't have theballs to stand up to them.

out a list of demands aftera white student, who the SJW group concedes is a "a stellar actor, singer,and dancer," was cast asEsmeralda. Additionally, black student, 17-year-old Maddi Carroll, quit theplay after the white studentwas cast.

Every Maddi Carroll I can find on Google is white. I demand this racistbitch change her name.

ÂÂæt shows you that theater wasnÂÂÂt made for you," Carroll told theIthacaJournal. "And it shows you that,if you canÂÂÂt get the parts that are written for you, what parts are yougoingto get?ÂÂÂ

Hopefully something in the rewarding field of fast food.

In a letter that included a list of demands, the student activists demandedthe high school girl cast asEsmeralda be removed from the role because, despite her talent, she's the"epitome of whiteness.""Unfortunately, it has also come to our attention that the casting of thismusical is antithetical to the verymessage which beats throughout the heart of the musical itself," reads theletter from the "diverse groupof students." "We speak, specifically, of the casting choice of the role ofEsmerelda. Before we speakfurther, we want to stress that the talented young woman who was cast in thisrole is a stellar actor, singer,and dancer. She has worked hard to hone her craft and the IHS stage, or anystage, would be lucky tohave her. Our concern is not with her, but with the fact that in terms ofdemographics, she is the wrongchoice for this role."

So no whites allowed

"The young woman who was cast in this role has hazel eyes, blonde hair, andis the epitome of whiteness,"the activists add.The play was canceled. In a statement on Monday, Ithaca City School Districtannounced plans for thehigh school to put on "another collaborative project" in the play's place.

They'd do better shutting down the department.

"We thank everyone for their contributions as we delve further into complexconversations," said theschool district. "In addition, we ask that you please stay engaged as wecontinually work to createcommunity-wide support for our students and school community."

At least the non white segment

"Our goal was not just to shut down the musical," said the 17-year-old

willfully ignorant lying racist bitchwho

quit the play over the castingof a white student. "We want to get a socially conscious director to replacethe current director so thateverybody can participate.Âï¿œÂ

As long as their not white, you worthless racist bitch.

And since we know there is no appeasing the social justice Left, theactivists posted more demands onFacebook after the play was canceled."Stop the racist and openly stated policy of 'color blind' casting in the

So non color blind casting is racist, and now color blind casting isracist. Their only definition of non racist is 'no whites allowed'

ICSD," says the post. "Becauseof institutionalized racism this results in white children being cast inroles written as white parts and alsowhite children being cast in roles that were specifically intended forpeopleof color."Speaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.Âèsmessage of love, unity, understanding, and inclusion."

And being a liar and a thief and a womanizer and a plagiarist.

"Our endgame," they told Fox, "is a performing arts program with more unity,more inclusion,

no whites allowedand musical

where we can all

as long as we're not whiteexperience the joy and bonding of inclusiveno whites allowedperforming arts

following best theatricalpractices."

Which is 'no whites allowed'

To recap, it's racist to cast a white girl as Esmeralda, but it's totallyprogressive to get her canned fromthe position because of her skin color. Got it?

Here's another article with more from this nasty little lying racistbitch and an adult nasty lying racist bitch who was behind much of it.They're upset because the cast of HUNCHBACK was *only* 25% black, andthat's not 'diversity'https://www.onenewsnow.com/education/2018/02/07/high-school-cancels-musical-over-white-castingWTF?Who says Esmerelda was black? And what the Hell kind of racial make-updo they think 1482 Paris had, anyway?

I'm not an expert in the demographics of 15th century Paris but I amgoing to be very surprised if an expert comes along and tells us thatthe percentage of blacks was more than one or two percent. I fail tounderstand how any reasonable person could think that 25% of the castbeing black wasn't (more than) enough for purposes of historicalaccuracy. Of course, none of these students appears to be remotelyreasonable.

Nope.

Post by RhinoI am also astounded at the claim that some of the parts were written for"people of colour". I've never read the book or seen a film adaptationbut were *any* of the characters in the book anything but white?

So now its Â‰è£‰racistÂ‰ï¿½Â for White people to play White characters in playswritten by White peoplethat are set in White countriesÂ‰ï¿½Â›.https://www.dailywire.com/news/26841/high-school-cancels-musical-amid-outrage-over-amanda-prestigiacomoByAMANDA PRESTIGIACOMOFebruary 6, 2018EQUALITY! SJWs Get High School Musical Canceled After White Student Lands LeadStudent activists and community members helped to get a production of "TheHunchback of Notre Dame"canceled at an Ithaca, New York high school after a white student was cast ina lead role.According to the Ithaca Journal, five student activists wrote letters and put

*Five* ignorant lying assholes, and the administration didn't have theballs to stand up to them.

out a list of demands aftera white student, who the SJW group concedes is a "a stellar actor, singer,and dancer," was cast asEsmeralda. Additionally, black student, 17-year-old Maddi Carroll, quit theplay after the white studentwas cast.

Every Maddi Carroll I can find on Google is white. I demand this racistbitch change her name.

Â‰ÂœæŸŸt shows you that theater wasnÂ‰ÂœÂ“t made for you," Carroll told theIthacaJournal. "And it shows you that,if you canÂ‰ÂœÂ“t get the parts that are written for you, what parts are yougoingto get?Â‰ÂœÂ

Hopefully something in the rewarding field of fast food.

In a letter that included a list of demands, the student activists demandedthe high school girl cast asEsmeralda be removed from the role because, despite her talent, she's the"epitome of whiteness.""Unfortunately, it has also come to our attention that the casting of thismusical is antithetical to the verymessage which beats throughout the heart of the musical itself," reads theletter from the "diverse groupof students." "We speak, specifically, of the casting choice of the role ofEsmerelda. Before we speakfurther, we want to stress that the talented young woman who was cast in thisrole is a stellar actor, singer,and dancer. She has worked hard to hone her craft and the IHS stage, or anystage, would be lucky tohave her. Our concern is not with her, but with the fact that in terms ofdemographics, she is the wrongchoice for this role."

So no whites allowed

"The young woman who was cast in this role has hazel eyes, blonde hair, andis the epitome of whiteness,"the activists add.The play was canceled. In a statement on Monday, Ithaca City School Districtannounced plans for thehigh school to put on "another collaborative project" in the play's place.

They'd do better shutting down the department.

"We thank everyone for their contributions as we delve further into complexconversations," said theschool district. "In addition, we ask that you please stay engaged as wecontinually work to createcommunity-wide support for our students and school community."

At least the non white segment

"Our goal was not just to shut down the musical," said the 17-year-old

willfully ignorant lying racist bitchwho

quit the play over the castingof a white student. "We want to get a socially conscious director to replacethe current director so thateverybody can participate.Â‰ï¿½Â

As long as their not white, you worthless racist bitch.

And since we know there is no appeasing the social justice Left, theactivists posted more demands onFacebook after the play was canceled."Stop the racist and openly stated policy of 'color blind' casting in the

So non color blind casting is racist, and now color blind casting isracist. Their only definition of non racist is 'no whites allowed'

ICSD," says the post. "Becauseof institutionalized racism this results in white children being cast inroles written as white parts and alsowhite children being cast in roles that were specifically intended forpeopleof color."Speaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.Â‰è„smessage of love, unity, understanding, and inclusion."

And being a liar and a thief and a womanizer and a plagiarist.

"Our endgame," they told Fox, "is a performing arts program with more unity,more inclusion,

no whites allowedand musical

where we can all

as long as we're not whiteexperience the joy and bonding of inclusiveno whites allowedperforming arts

following best theatricalpractices."

Which is 'no whites allowed'

To recap, it's racist to cast a white girl as Esmeralda, but it's totallyprogressive to get her canned fromthe position because of her skin color. Got it?

Here's another article with more from this nasty little lying racistbitch and an adult nasty lying racist bitch who was behind much of it.They're upset because the cast of HUNCHBACK was *only* 25% black, andthat's not 'diversity'https://www.onenewsnow.com/education/2018/02/07/high-school-cancels-musical-over-white-castingWTF?Who says Esmerelda was black? And what the Hell kind of racial make-updo they think 1482 Paris had, anyway?

I'm not an expert in the demographics of 15th century Paris but I amgoing to be very surprised if an expert comes along and tells us thatthe percentage of blacks was more than one or two percent. I fail tounderstand how any reasonable person could think that 25% of the castbeing black wasn't (more than) enough for purposes of historicalaccuracy. Of course, none of these students appears to be remotelyreasonable.

Nope.

Post by RhinoI am also astounded at the claim that some of the parts were written for"people of colour". I've never read the book or seen a film adaptationbut were *any* of the characters in the book anything but white?

Esme's a gypsy, but, hey.

If there was ever a stupider expression than "people of colour", Ihaven't heard it yet. Since only people who are (literally) transparent,don't have colour, we are *all* people of colour. The expression shouldbe "people of darker colour" or something in that neighbourhood to makeeven a smidgen of sense.

Post by Ed StasiakSo now its “racist” for White people to play White characters in playswritten by White peoplethat are set in White countries….https://www.dailywire.com/news/26841/high-school-cancels-musical-amid-outrage-over-amanda-prestigiacomoByAMANDA PRESTIGIACOMOFebruary 6, 2018EQUALITY! SJWs Get High School Musical Canceled After White Student Lands LeadStudent activists and community members helped to get a production of "TheHunchback of Notre Dame"canceled at an Ithaca, New York high school after a white student was cast ina lead role.According to the Ithaca Journal, five student activists wrote letters and put

*Five* ignorant lying assholes, and the administration didn't have theballs to stand up to them.

Every Maddi Carroll I can find on Google is white. I demand this racistbitch change her name.

Post by Ed Stasiak“It shows you that theater wasn’t made for you," Carroll told the IthacaJournal. "And it shows you that,if you can’t get the parts that are written for you, what parts are you goingto get?”

Hopefully something in the rewarding field of fast food.

Post by Ed StasiakIn a letter that included a list of demands, the student activists demandedthe high school girl cast asEsmeralda be removed from the role because, despite her talent, she's the"epitome of whiteness.""Unfortunately, it has also come to our attention that the casting of thismusical is antithetical to the verymessage which beats throughout the heart of the musical itself," reads theletter from the "diverse groupof students." "We speak, specifically, of the casting choice of the role ofEsmerelda. Before we speakfurther, we want to stress that the talented young woman who was cast in thisrole is a stellar actor, singer,and dancer. She has worked hard to hone her craft and the IHS stage, or anystage, would be lucky tohave her. Our concern is not with her, but with the fact that in terms ofdemographics, she is the wrongchoice for this role."

So no whites allowed

Post by Ed Stasiak"The young woman who was cast in this role has hazel eyes, blonde hair, andis the epitome of whiteness,"the activists add.The play was canceled. In a statement on Monday, Ithaca City School Districtannounced plans for thehigh school to put on "another collaborative project" in the play's place.

They'd do better shutting down the department.

Post by Ed Stasiak"We thank everyone for their contributions as we delve further into complexconversations," said theschool district. "In addition, we ask that you please stay engaged as wecontinually work to createcommunity-wide support for our students and school community."

Post by Ed Stasiakquit the play over the castingof a white student. "We want to get a socially conscious director to replacethe current director so thateverybody can participate.”

As long as their not white, you worthless racist bitch.

Post by Ed StasiakAnd since we know there is no appeasing the social justice Left, theactivists posted more demands onFacebook after the play was canceled."Stop the racist and openly stated policy of 'color blind' casting in the

So non color blind casting is racist, and now color blind casting isracist. Their only definition of non racist is 'no whites allowed'

Post by Ed StasiakICSD," says the post. "Becauseof institutionalized racism this results in white children being cast inroles written as white parts and alsowhite children being cast in roles that were specifically intended for peopleof color."Speaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.’smessage of love, unity, understanding, and inclusion."

And being a liar and a thief and a womanizer and a plagiarist.

Post by Ed Stasiak"Our endgame," they told Fox, "is a performing arts program with more unity,more inclusion,

Post by Ed StasiakTo recap, it's racist to cast a white girl as Esmeralda, but it's totallyprogressive to get her canned fromthe position because of her skin color. Got it?

Here's another article with more from this nasty little lying racistbitch and an adult nasty lying racist bitch who was behind much of it.They're upset because the cast of HUNCHBACK was *only* 25% black, andthat's not 'diversity'https://www.onenewsnow.com/education/2018/02/07/high-school-cancels-musical-over-white-castingWTF?Who says Esmerelda was black? And what the Hell kind of racial make-updo they think 1482 Paris had, anyway?--Join your old RAT friends athttps://www.facebook.com/groups/1688985234647266/

Ithaca High School begins production of 'A Raisin in the Sun' after casting lead role to student afflicted with Scheuermann's disease.

anim8rfskAnd what the Hell kind of racial make-up do they think1482 Paris had, anyway?

These are people who get their history from Disney cartoons…But the racist Black complainers even acknowledge that the Whitestudent was the better actress but that still doesn’t matter, a Blackgal should have been cast because… well, just because!

The character is half Romani - gypsy. It doesn't matter what thecomposition of old France was...

--"Politicians can be cheered for the promises they make. Our country willbe judged by the promises we keep. That is the measure of ourcharacter, that's who we are. Out of many, One." - Joseph P. Kennedy III1-30-18

Not that a Black gal (or any ethnicity) couldn’t or shouldn’t play the part,(its not a documentary, after all) the point is that the play was canceledby the school administration, who knuckled under to Black racists whoinsist that the role must only be played by a Black chick.

Ed StasiakBut the racist Black complainers even acknowledge that the Whitestudent was the better actress but that still doesn’t matter, a Blackgal should have been cast because… well, just because!

The character is half Romani - gypsy. It doesn't matter what thecomposition of old France was...

Who are White people;http://english.svenko.net/svenko/gallery1/foto12.jpgNot that a Black gal (or any ethnicity) couldn’t or shouldn’t play the part,(its not a documentary, after all) the point is that the play was canceledby the school administration, who knuckled under to Black racists whoinsist that the role must only be played by a Black chick.

Idiot.

The Romani (also spelled Romany; /ˈroʊməni/, /ˈrɒ-/), or Roma, are atraditionally itinerant ethnic group, living mostly in Europe and theAmericas and originating from the northern regions of the Indiansubcontinent, from the Indian states of Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab andSindh.

--"Politicians can be cheered for the promises they make. Our country willbe judged by the promises we keep. That is the measure of ourcharacter, that's who we are. Out of many, One." - Joseph P. Kennedy III1-30-18

Ed StasiakBut the racist Black complainers even acknowledge that the Whitestudent was the better actress but that still doesn’t matter, a Blackgal should have been cast because… well, just because!

The character is half Romani - gypsy. It doesn't matter what thecomposition of old France was...

Who are White people;http://english.svenko.net/svenko/gallery1/foto12.jpgNot that a Black gal (or any ethnicity) couldn’t or shouldn’t play the part,(its not a documentary, after all) the point is that the play was canceledby the school administration, who knuckled under to Black racists whoinsist that the role must only be played by a Black chick.

Idiot.The Romani (also spelled Romany; /ˈroʊməni/, /ˈrɒ-/), or Roma, are atraditionally itinerant ethnic group, living mostly in Europe and theAmericas and originating from the northern regions of the Indiansubcontinent, from the Indian states of Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab andSindh.

Asian: A person having origins in any of the original peoples of the FarEast, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example,Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the PhilippineIslands, Thailand, and Vietnam.

Idiot. Romani are classified as Asian.

--"Politicians can be cheered for the promises they make. Our country willbe judged by the promises we keep. That is the measure of ourcharacter, that's who we are. Out of many, One." - Joseph P. Kennedy III1-30-18

1)The Romani (also spelled Romany; /ˈroʊməni/, /ˈrɒ-/), or Roma, are atraditionally itinerant ethnic group, living mostly in Europe and theAmericas and originating from the northern Indiansubcontinent,[55][56][57] from the Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab and Sindhregions of modern-day India and Pakistan.[56][57] A DNA study conductedby Indian and Estonian research facilities shows that theRoman/Romani/Gypsy and Sinti people originate from the Untouchable Dalitcommunity from India.[58]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people

2)European Roma descended from Indian 'untouchables', genetic study showsRoma gypsies in Britain and Europe are descended from "dalits" or lowcaste "untouchables" who migrated from the Indian sub-continent 1,400years ago, a genetic study has suggested.

3)As their name suggests, Gypsies were initially believed to have comefrom Egypt. The Gypsies’ true ancestors, however, were a group of peoplewho left India between AD 800 and 950. The best estimates have datedtheir earliest official appearance in Europe, in modern-day Turkey, toaround AD 855.

https://the-gypsy-life.com/gypsy-history/

Any more questions?

--"Politicians can be cheered for the promises they make. Our country willbe judged by the promises we keep. That is the measure of ourcharacter, that's who we are. Out of many, One." - Joseph P. Kennedy III1-30-18

1)The Romani (also spelled Romany; /ˈroʊməni/, /ˈrɒ-/), or Roma, are atraditionally itinerant ethnic group, living mostly in Europe and theAmericas and originating from the northern Indiansubcontinent,[55][56][57] from the Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab and Sindhregions of modern-day India and Pakistan.[56][57] A DNA study conductedby Indian and Estonian research facilities shows that theRoman/Romani/Gypsy and Sinti people originate from the Untouchable Dalitcommunity from India.[58]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people2) European Roma descended from Indian 'untouchables', genetic study showsRoma gypsies in Britain and Europe are descended from "dalits" or lowcaste "untouchables" who migrated from the Indian sub-continent 1,400years ago, a genetic study has suggested.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/9719058/European-Roma-descended-from-Indian-untouchables-genetic-study-shows.html3)As their name suggests, Gypsies were initially believed to have comefrom Egypt. The Gypsies’ true ancestors, however, were a group of peoplewho left India between AD 800 and 950. The best estimates have datedtheir earliest official appearance in Europe, in modern-day Turkey, toaround AD 855.https://the-gypsy-life.com/gypsy-history/Any more questions?

Apparently, you're unable to distinguish between contemporary Romani andtheir distant ancestors. Yes, science seems pretty sure that theirancestors originated from what is now India but contemporary Romani arenot viewed as Asians as far as I know, even if you claim otherwise. Whenchallenged on your claim, you only proved that their distant ancestorscame from India.

That's like insisting that aboriginal Canadians and Americans are Asianbecause they originated in Asia.

1)The Romani (also spelled Romany; /ˈroʊməni/, /ˈrɒ-/), or Roma, are atraditionally itinerant ethnic group, living mostly in Europe and theAmericas and originating from the northern Indiansubcontinent,[55][56][57] from the Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab andSindh regions of modern-day India and Pakistan.[56][57] A DNA studyconducted by Indian and Estonian research facilities shows that theRoman/Romani/Gypsy and Sinti people originate from the UntouchableDalit community from India.[58]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people2)European Roma descended from Indian 'untouchables', genetic study showsRoma gypsies in Britain and Europe are descended from "dalits" or lowcaste "untouchables" who migrated from the Indian sub-continent 1,400years ago, a genetic study has suggested.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/9719058/European-Roma-descended-from-Indian-untouchables-genetic-study-shows.html3)As their name suggests, Gypsies were initially believed to have comefrom Egypt. The Gypsies’ true ancestors, however, were a group ofpeople who left India between AD 800 and 950. The best estimates havedated their earliest official appearance in Europe, in modern-dayTurkey, to around AD 855.https://the-gypsy-life.com/gypsy-history/Any more questions?

Apparently, you're unable to distinguish between contemporary Romani andtheir distant ancestors. Yes, science seems pretty sure that theirancestors originated from what is now India but contemporary Romani arenot viewed as Asians as far as I know, even if you claim otherwise. Whenchallenged on your claim, you only proved that their distant ancestorscame from India.That's like insisting that aboriginal Canadians and Americans are Asianbecause they originated in Asia.

So, genius, what *is* the difference between contemporary Romani andtheir ancestors?That's *your* claim... now back it up.

I know my ancestors hailed from Western Europe, and I look enough likemy great grandfather to pass as his brother.

--"Politicians can be cheered for the promises they make. Our country willbe judged by the promises we keep. That is the measure of ourcharacter, that's who we are. Out of many, One." - Joseph P. Kennedy III1-30-18

1)The Romani (also spelled Romany; /ˈroʊməni/, /ˈrɒ-/), or Roma, are atraditionally itinerant ethnic group, living mostly in Europe and theAmericas and originating from the northern Indiansubcontinent,[55][56][57] from the Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab andSindh regions of modern-day India and Pakistan.[56][57] A DNA studyconducted by Indian and Estonian research facilities shows that theRoman/Romani/Gypsy and Sinti people originate from the UntouchableDalit community from India.[58]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people2) European Roma descended from Indian 'untouchables', genetic studyshowsRoma gypsies in Britain and Europe are descended from "dalits" or lowcaste "untouchables" who migrated from the Indian sub-continent 1,400years ago, a genetic study has suggested.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/9719058/European-Roma-descended-from-Indian-untouchables-genetic-study-shows.html3)As their name suggests, Gypsies were initially believed to have comefrom Egypt. The Gypsies’ true ancestors, however, were a group ofpeople who left India between AD 800 and 950. The best estimates havedated their earliest official appearance in Europe, in modern-dayTurkey, to around AD 855.https://the-gypsy-life.com/gypsy-history/Any more questions?

Apparently, you're unable to distinguish between contemporary Romani andtheir distant ancestors. Yes, science seems pretty sure that theirancestors originated from what is now India but contemporary Romani arenot viewed as Asians as far as I know, even if you claim otherwise. Whenchallenged on your claim, you only proved that their distant ancestorscame from India.That's like insisting that aboriginal Canadians and Americans are Asianbecause they originated in Asia.

So, genius, what *is* the difference between contemporary Romani andtheir ancestors?That's *your* claim... now back it up.I know my ancestors hailed from Western Europe, and I look enough likemy great grandfather to pass as his brother.

Which is not remotely unusual. So what? Lots of people look very*different* from ancestors, especially when there has been intermarriagebetween different "races". Look at all the black people who "pass" forwhite. I, for one, see no *hint* that Jennifer Beals had a black fatherwhen I look at her. Do you? Yet half of her genetic heritage (give ortake) comes from black people.

1)The Romani (also spelled Romany; /ËroÊmÉni/, /ËrÉ-/), or Roma, are atraditionally itinerant ethnic group, living mostly in Europe and theAmericas and originating from the northern Indiansubcontinent,[55][56][57] from the Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab andSindh regions of modern-day India and Pakistan.[56][57] A DNA studyconducted by Indian and Estonian research facilities shows that theRoman/Romani/Gypsy and Sinti people originate from the UntouchableDalit community from India.[58]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people2)Â European Roma descended from Indian 'untouchables', genetic studyshowsRoma gypsies in Britain and Europe are descended from "dalits" or lowcaste "untouchables" who migrated from the Indian sub-continent 1,400years ago, a genetic study has suggested.

3)As their name suggests, Gypsies were initially believed to have comefrom Egypt. The Gypsiesâ true ancestors, however, were a group ofpeople who left India between AD 800 and 950. The best estimates havedated their earliest official appearance in Europe, in modern-dayTurkey, to around AD 855.https://the-gypsy-life.com/gypsy-history/Any more questions?

Apparently, you're unable to distinguish between contemporary Romani andtheir distant ancestors. Yes, science seems pretty sure that theirancestors originated from what is now India but contemporary Romani arenot viewed as Asians as far as I know, even if you claim otherwise. Whenchallenged on your claim, you only proved that their distant ancestorscame from India.That's like insisting that aboriginal Canadians and Americans are Asianbecause they originated in Asia.

So, genius, what *is* the difference between contemporary Romani andtheir ancestors?That's *your* claim... now back it up.I know my ancestors hailed from Western Europe, and I look enough likemy great grandfather to pass as his brother.

Which is not remotely unusual. So what? Lots of people look very*different* from ancestors, especially when there has been intermarriagebetween different "races". Look at all the black people who "pass" forwhite. I, for one, see no *hint* that Jennifer Beals had a black fatherwhen I look at her. Do you? Yet half of her genetic heritage (give ortake) comes from black people.

White traits are recessive; black traits are dominant. Genetically,black parents can have a white baby who won't be able to have blackchildren. Geneticlaly, Miss Beals is likely white.

This doesn't explain how she's famous for starring in Flashdance, beingunable to dance, and now that I've written that, it sounds like anArchie Bunker joke.

1)The Romani (also spelled Romany; /ËroÊmÉni/, /ËrÉ-/), or Roma, areatraditionally itinerant ethnic group, living mostly in Europe and theAmericas and originating from the northern Indiansubcontinent,[55][56][57] from the Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab andSindh regions of modern-day India and Pakistan.[56][57] A DNA studyconducted by Indian and Estonian research facilities shows that theRoman/Romani/Gypsy and Sinti people originate from the UntouchableDalit community from India.[58]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people2)Â European Roma descended from Indian 'untouchables', genetic studyshowsRoma gypsies in Britain and Europe are descended from "dalits" or lowcaste "untouchables" who migrated from the Indian sub-continent 1,400years ago, a genetic study has suggested.

3)As their name suggests, Gypsies were initially believed to have comefrom Egypt. The Gypsiesâ true ancestors, however, were a group ofpeople who left India between AD 800 and 950. The best estimates havedated their earliest official appearance in Europe, in modern-dayTurkey, to around AD 855.https://the-gypsy-life.com/gypsy-history/Any more questions?

Apparently, you're unable to distinguish between contemporary Romani andtheir distant ancestors. Yes, science seems pretty sure that theirancestors originated from what is now India but contemporary Romani arenot viewed as Asians as far as I know, even if you claim otherwise. Whenchallenged on your claim, you only proved that their distant ancestorscame from India.That's like insisting that aboriginal Canadians and Americans are Asianbecause they originated in Asia.

So, genius, what *is* the difference between contemporary Romani andtheir ancestors?That's *your* claim... now back it up.I know my ancestors hailed from Western Europe, and I look enough likemy great grandfather to pass as his brother.

Which is not remotely unusual. So what? Lots of people look very*different* from ancestors, especially when there has been intermarriagebetween different "races". Look at all the black people who "pass" forwhite. I, for one, see no *hint* that Jennifer Beals had a black fatherwhen I look at her. Do you? Yet half of her genetic heritage (give ortake) comes from black people.

White traits are recessive; black traits are dominant. Genetically,black parents can have a white baby who won't be able to have blackchildren. Geneticlaly, Miss Beals is likely white.

Wow, I've never seen her as anything but black, but she was living withthe son of a neighbor, and his mom was scandalized that he was livingwith a black chick, so I was predisposed to see her that way.

1)The Romani (also spelled Romany; /ËroÊmÉni/, /ËrÉ-/), or Roma, areatraditionally itinerant ethnic group, living mostly in Europe and theAmericas and originating from the northern Indiansubcontinent,[55][56][57] from the Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab andSindh regions of modern-day India and Pakistan.[56][57] A DNA studyconducted by Indian and Estonian research facilities shows that theRoman/Romani/Gypsy and Sinti people originate from the UntouchableDalit community from India.[58]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people2)Â European Roma descended from Indian 'untouchables', genetic studyshowsRoma gypsies in Britain and Europe are descended from "dalits" or lowcaste "untouchables" who migrated from the Indian sub-continent 1,400years ago, a genetic study has suggested.

3)As their name suggests, Gypsies were initially believed to have comefrom Egypt. The Gypsiesâ true ancestors, however, were a group ofpeople who left India between AD 800 and 950. The best estimates havedated their earliest official appearance in Europe, in modern-dayTurkey, to around AD 855.https://the-gypsy-life.com/gypsy-history/Any more questions?

Apparently, you're unable to distinguish between contemporary Romani andtheir distant ancestors. Yes, science seems pretty sure that theirancestors originated from what is now India but contemporary Romani arenot viewed as Asians as far as I know, even if you claim otherwise. Whenchallenged on your claim, you only proved that their distant ancestorscame from India.That's like insisting that aboriginal Canadians and Americans are Asianbecause they originated in Asia.

So, genius, what *is* the difference between contemporary Romani andtheir ancestors?That's *your* claim... now back it up.I know my ancestors hailed from Western Europe, and I look enough likemy great grandfather to pass as his brother.

Which is not remotely unusual. So what? Lots of people look very*different* from ancestors, especially when there has been intermarriagebetween different "races". Look at all the black people who "pass" forwhite. I, for one, see no *hint* that Jennifer Beals had a black fatherwhen I look at her. Do you? Yet half of her genetic heritage (give ortake) comes from black people.

White traits are recessive; black traits are dominant. Genetically,black parents can have a white baby who won't be able to have blackchildren. Geneticlaly, Miss Beals is likely white.

Wow, I've never seen her as anything but black, but she was living withthe son of a neighbor, and his mom was scandalized that he was livingwith a black chick, so I was predisposed to see her that way.

1)The Romani (also spelled Romany; /E?roE...mE?ni/, /E?rE,-/), or Roma,areatraditionally itinerant ethnic group, living mostly in Europe and theAmericas and originating from the northern Indiansubcontinent,[55][56][57] from the Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab andSindh regions of modern-day India and Pakistan.[56][57] A DNA studyconducted by Indian and Estonian research facilities shows that theRoman/Romani/Gypsy and Sinti people originate from the UntouchableDalit community from India.[58]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people2)A European Roma descended from Indian 'untouchables', genetic studyshowsRoma gypsies in Britain and Europe are descended from "dalits" or lowcaste "untouchables" who migrated from the Indian sub-continent 1,400years ago, a genetic study has suggested.

3)As their name suggests, Gypsies were initially believed to have comefrom Egypt. The Gypsiesa?? true ancestors, however, were a group ofpeople who left India between AD 800 and 950. The best estimates havedated their earliest official appearance in Europe, in modern-dayTurkey, to around AD 855.https://the-gypsy-life.com/gypsy-history/Any more questions?

Apparently, you're unable to distinguish between contemporary Romani andtheir distant ancestors. Yes, science seems pretty sure that theirancestors originated from what is now India but contemporary Romani arenot viewed as Asians as far as I know, even if you claim otherwise. Whenchallenged on your claim, you only proved that their distant ancestorscame from India.That's like insisting that aboriginal Canadians and Americans are Asianbecause they originated in Asia.

So, genius, what *is* the difference between contemporary Romani andtheir ancestors?That's *your* claim... now back it up.I know my ancestors hailed from Western Europe, and I look enough likemy great grandfather to pass as his brother.

Which is not remotely unusual. So what? Lots of people look very*different* from ancestors, especially when there has been intermarriagebetween different "races". Look at all the black people who "pass" forwhite. I, for one, see no *hint* that Jennifer Beals had a black fatherwhen I look at her. Do you? Yet half of her genetic heritage (give ortake) comes from black people.

White traits are recessive; black traits are dominant. Genetically,black parents can have a white baby who won't be able to have blackchildren. Geneticlaly, Miss Beals is likely white.

Wow, I've never seen her as anything but black, but she was living withthe son of a neighbor, and his mom was scandalized that he was livingwith a black chick, so I was predisposed to see her that way.

1)The Romani (also spelled Romany; /E?roE...mE?ni/, /E?rE,-/), or Roma,areatraditionally itinerant ethnic group, living mostly in Europe and theAmericas and originating from the northern Indiansubcontinent,[55][56][57] from the Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab andSindh regions of modern-day India and Pakistan.[56][57] A DNA studyconducted by Indian and Estonian research facilities shows that theRoman/Romani/Gypsy and Sinti people originate from the UntouchableDalit community from India.[58]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people2)A European Roma descended from Indian 'untouchables', genetic studyshowsRoma gypsies in Britain and Europe are descended from "dalits" or lowcaste "untouchables" who migrated from the Indian sub-continent 1,400years ago, a genetic study has suggested.

3)As their name suggests, Gypsies were initially believed to have comefrom Egypt. The Gypsiesa?? true ancestors, however, were a group ofpeople who left India between AD 800 and 950. The best estimates havedated their earliest official appearance in Europe, in modern-dayTurkey, to around AD 855.https://the-gypsy-life.com/gypsy-history/Any more questions?

Apparently, you're unable to distinguish between contemporary Romani andtheir distant ancestors. Yes, science seems pretty sure that theirancestors originated from what is now India but contemporary Romani arenot viewed as Asians as far as I know, even if you claim otherwise. Whenchallenged on your claim, you only proved that their distant ancestorscame from India.That's like insisting that aboriginal Canadians and Americans are Asianbecause they originated in Asia.

So, genius, what *is* the difference between contemporary Romani andtheir ancestors?That's *your* claim... now back it up.I know my ancestors hailed from Western Europe, and I look enough likemy great grandfather to pass as his brother.

Which is not remotely unusual. So what? Lots of people look very*different* from ancestors, especially when there has been intermarriagebetween different "races". Look at all the black people who "pass" forwhite. I, for one, see no *hint* that Jennifer Beals had a black fatherwhen I look at her. Do you? Yet half of her genetic heritage (give ortake) comes from black people.

White traits are recessive; black traits are dominant. Genetically,black parents can have a white baby who won't be able to have blackchildren. Geneticlaly, Miss Beals is likely white.

Wow, I've never seen her as anything but black, but she was living withthe son of a neighbor, and his mom was scandalized that he was livingwith a black chick, so I was predisposed to see her that way.

Was she robbing the cradle?

No, they were both early 20s.

Oh, c'mon, you're supposed to improve the story. He was an eigth graderabout to register for high school who was taught a life lesson by anolder woman!

1)The Romani (also spelled Romany; /E?roE...mE?ni/, /E?rE,-/), or Roma,areatraditionally itinerant ethnic group, living mostly in Europe and theAmericas and originating from the northern Indiansubcontinent,[55][56][57] from the Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab andSindh regions of modern-day India and Pakistan.[56][57] A DNA studyconducted by Indian and Estonian research facilities shows that theRoman/Romani/Gypsy and Sinti people originate from the UntouchableDalit community from India.[58]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people2)A European Roma descended from Indian 'untouchables', genetic studyshowsRoma gypsies in Britain and Europe are descended from "dalits" or lowcaste "untouchables" who migrated from the Indian sub-continent 1,400years ago, a genetic study has suggested.

3)As their name suggests, Gypsies were initially believed to have comefrom Egypt. The Gypsiesa?? true ancestors, however, were a group ofpeople who left India between AD 800 and 950. The best estimates havedated their earliest official appearance in Europe, in modern-dayTurkey, to around AD 855.https://the-gypsy-life.com/gypsy-history/Any more questions?

Apparently, you're unable to distinguish between contemporary Romani andtheir distant ancestors. Yes, science seems pretty sure that theirancestors originated from what is now India but contemporary Romani arenot viewed as Asians as far as I know, even if you claim otherwise. Whenchallenged on your claim, you only proved that their distant ancestorscame from India.That's like insisting that aboriginal Canadians and Americans are Asianbecause they originated in Asia.

So, genius, what *is* the difference between contemporary Romani andtheir ancestors?That's *your* claim... now back it up.I know my ancestors hailed from Western Europe, and I look enough likemy great grandfather to pass as his brother.

Which is not remotely unusual. So what? Lots of people look very*different* from ancestors, especially when there has been intermarriagebetween different "races". Look at all the black people who "pass" forwhite. I, for one, see no *hint* that Jennifer Beals had a black fatherwhen I look at her. Do you? Yet half of her genetic heritage (give ortake) comes from black people.

White traits are recessive; black traits are dominant. Genetically,black parents can have a white baby who won't be able to have blackchildren. Geneticlaly, Miss Beals is likely white.

Wow, I've never seen her as anything but black, but she was living withthe son of a neighbor, and his mom was scandalized that he was livingwith a black chick, so I was predisposed to see her that way.

Was she robbing the cradle?

No, they were both early 20s.

Oh, c'mon, you're supposed to improve the story. He was an eigth graderabout to register for high school who was taught a life lesson by anolder woman!

I'd still take those kinds of lessons from her.

--Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservationinstinct are running screaming.

1)The Romani (also spelled Romany; /E?roE...mE?ni/, /E?rE,-/), or Roma,areatraditionally itinerant ethnic group, living mostly in Europe and theAmericas and originating from the northern Indiansubcontinent,[55][56][57] from the Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab andSindh regions of modern-day India and Pakistan.[56][57] A DNA studyconducted by Indian and Estonian research facilities shows that theRoman/Romani/Gypsy and Sinti people originate from the UntouchableDalit community from India.[58]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people2)A European Roma descended from Indian 'untouchables', genetic studyshowsRoma gypsies in Britain and Europe are descended from "dalits" or lowcaste "untouchables" who migrated from the Indian sub-continent 1,400years ago, a genetic study has suggested.

3)As their name suggests, Gypsies were initially believed to have comefrom Egypt. The Gypsiesa?? true ancestors, however, were a group ofpeople who left India between AD 800 and 950. The best estimates havedated their earliest official appearance in Europe, in modern-dayTurkey, to around AD 855.https://the-gypsy-life.com/gypsy-history/Any more questions?

Apparently, you're unable to distinguish between contemporaryRomaniandtheir distant ancestors. Yes, science seems pretty sure that theirancestors originated from what is now India but contemporary Romani arenot viewed as Asians as far as I know, even if you claim otherwise.Whenchallenged on your claim, you only proved that their distant ancestorscame from India.That's like insisting that aboriginal Canadians and Americans are Asianbecause they originated in Asia.

So, genius, what *is* the difference between contemporary Romani andtheir ancestors?That's *your* claim... now back it up.I know my ancestors hailed from Western Europe, and I look enough likemy great grandfather to pass as his brother.

Which is not remotely unusual. So what? Lots of people look very*different* from ancestors, especially when there has been intermarriagebetween different "races". Look at all the black people who "pass" forwhite. I, for one, see no *hint* that Jennifer Beals had a black fatherwhen I look at her. Do you? Yet half of her genetic heritage (give ortake) comes from black people.

White traits are recessive; black traits are dominant. Genetically,black parents can have a white baby who won't be able to have blackchildren. Geneticlaly, Miss Beals is likely white.

Wow, I've never seen her as anything but black, but she was living withthe son of a neighbor, and his mom was scandalized that he was livingwith a black chick, so I was predisposed to see her that way.

Was she robbing the cradle?

No, they were both early 20s.

Oh, c'mon, you're supposed to improve the story. He was an eigth graderabout to register for high school who was taught a life lesson by anolder woman!

LOL, how about 'his father was a crooked car dealer and I helped the carmanufacturer take his dealership away'?

1)The Romani or Roma, are atraditionally itinerant ethnic group, living mostly in Europe and theAmericas and originating from the northern Indiansubcontinent, from the Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab andSindh regions of modern-day India and Pakistan. A DNA studyconducted by Indian and Estonian research facilities shows that theRoman/Romani/Gypsy and Sinti people originate from the UntouchableDalit community from India.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people2)Â European Roma descended from Indian 'untouchables', genetic studyshowsRoma gypsies in Britain and Europe are descended from "dalits" or lowcaste "untouchables" who migrated from the Indian sub-continent 1,400years ago, a genetic study has suggested.

3)As their name suggests, Gypsies were initially believed to have comefrom Egypt. The Gypsiesâ true ancestors, however, were a group ofpeople who left India between AD 800 and 950. The best estimates havedated their earliest official appearance in Europe, in modern-dayTurkey, to around AD 855.https://the-gypsy-life.com/gypsy-history/Any more questions?

Apparently, you're unable to distinguish between contemporary Romani andtheir distant ancestors. Yes, science seems pretty sure that theirancestors originated from what is now India but contemporary Romani arenot viewed as Asians as far as I know, even if you claim otherwise. Whenchallenged on your claim, you only proved that their distant ancestorscame from India.That's like insisting that aboriginal Canadians and Americans are Asianbecause they originated in Asia.

So, genius, what *is* the difference between contemporary Romani andtheir ancestors?That's *your* claim... now back it up.I know my ancestors hailed from Western Europe, and I look enough likemy great grandfather to pass as his brother.

Which is not remotely unusual. So what? Lots of people look very*different* from ancestors, especially when there has been intermarriagebetween different "races". Look at all the black people who "pass" forwhite. I, for one, see no *hint* that Jennifer Beals had a black fatherwhen I look at her. Do you? Yet half of her genetic heritage (give ortake) comes from black people.

White traits are recessive; black traits are dominant. Genetically,black parents can have a white baby who won't be able to have blackchildren. Geneticlaly, Miss Beals is likely white.

Wow, I've never seen her as anything but black, but she was living withthe son of a neighbor, and his mom was scandalized that he was livingwith a black chick, so I was predisposed to see her that way.

1)The Romani or Roma, are atraditionally itinerant ethnic group, living mostly in Europe and theAmericas and originating from the northern Indiansubcontinent, from the Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab andSindh regions of modern-day India and Pakistan. A DNA studyconducted by Indian and Estonian research facilities shows that theRoman/Romani/Gypsy and Sinti people originate from the UntouchableDalit community from India.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people2)Â European Roma descended from Indian 'untouchables', genetic studyshowsRoma gypsies in Britain and Europe are descended from "dalits" or lowcaste "untouchables" who migrated from the Indian sub-continent 1,400years ago, a genetic study has suggested.

3)As their name suggests, Gypsies were initially believed to have comefrom Egypt. The Gypsiesâ true ancestors, however, were a group ofpeople who left India between AD 800 and 950. The best estimates havedated their earliest official appearance in Europe, in modern-dayTurkey, to around AD 855.https://the-gypsy-life.com/gypsy-history/Any more questions?

Apparently, you're unable to distinguish between contemporary Romani andtheir distant ancestors. Yes, science seems pretty sure that theirancestors originated from what is now India but contemporary Romani arenot viewed as Asians as far as I know, even if you claim otherwise. Whenchallenged on your claim, you only proved that their distant ancestorscame from India.That's like insisting that aboriginal Canadians and Americans are Asianbecause they originated in Asia.

So, genius, what *is* the difference between contemporary Romani andtheir ancestors?That's *your* claim... now back it up.I know my ancestors hailed from Western Europe, and I look enough likemy great grandfather to pass as his brother.

Which is not remotely unusual. So what? Lots of people look very*different* from ancestors, especially when there has been intermarriagebetween different "races". Look at all the black people who "pass" forwhite. I, for one, see no *hint* that Jennifer Beals had a black fatherwhen I look at her. Do you? Yet half of her genetic heritage (give ortake) comes from black people.

White traits are recessive; black traits are dominant. Genetically,black parents can have a white baby who won't be able to have blackchildren. Geneticlaly, Miss Beals is likely white.

Wow, I've never seen her as anything but black, but she was living withthe son of a neighbor, and his mom was scandalized that he was livingwith a black chick, so I was predisposed to see her that way.

The only question that should be asked is, "Is she hawt?"If yes, no scandalizing involved.

well, her husband was a criminal, you'd think that would have been amore immediate problem

Ed StasiakBut the racist Black complainers even acknowledge that the Whitestudent was the better actress but that still doesn’t matter, a Blackgal should have been cast because… well, just because!

The character is half Romani - gypsy. It doesn't matter what thecomposition of old France was...

Who are White people;http://english.svenko.net/svenko/gallery1/foto12.jpgNot that a Black gal (or any ethnicity) couldn’t or shouldn’t play the part,(its not a documentary, after all) the point is that the play was canceledby the school administration, who knuckled under to Black racists whoinsist that the role must only be played by a Black chick.

Idiot.The Romani (also spelled Romany; /ˈroʊməni/, /ˈrɒ-/), or Roma, are atraditionally itinerant ethnic group, living mostly in Europe and theAmericas and originating from the northern regions of the Indiansubcontinent, from the Indian states of Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab andSindh.

â€œThe Romani originated in Northern India and arrived in Mid-West Asia,and Europe around _1,000 years_ ago.â€Theyâ€™re not sub-Saharan Black Africans by any stretch.https://share.america.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/AP111001144984.jpg

hey, here's a thought. Maybe that role was written for the nasty racistbitch because Esme is written as a nasty racist bitch, and it's notabout skin color at all?

I saw a news article on this issue. I'm surprised that any stage playcould get approved in the first place when all but one of the main rolesare male. Shouldn't all the women have been complaining about beingblocked out of stage time simply by the choice of play? Instead, itcomes down to a cat fight between two women over which of them gets thesingle female role. It might be time to reboot GLEE so these issues of'color conscious casting' can play out on TV.

â€œThe Romani originated in Northern India and arrived in Mid-West Asia,and Europe around _1,000 years_ ago.â€Theyâ€™re not sub-Saharan Black Africans by any stretch.https://share.america.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/AP111001144984.jpg

hey, here's a thought. Maybe that role was written for the nasty racistbitch because Esme is written as a nasty racist bitch, and it's notabout skin color at all?

I saw a news article on this issue. I'm surprised that any stage playcould get approved in the first place when all but one of the main rolesare male. Shouldn't all the women have been complaining about beingblocked out of stage time simply by the choice of play? Instead, itcomes down to a cat fight between two women over which of them gets thesingle female role. It might be time to reboot GLEE so these issues of'color conscious casting' can play out on TV.

If they include any white cast members in Nu-Glee, I'm sure the girl andher mother who shut down the play will scream "racism" about the tv showtoo.

--Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservationinstinct are running screaming.

â€œThe Romani originated in Northern India and arrived in Mid-West Asia,and Europe around _1,000 years_ ago.â€Theyâ€™re not sub-Saharan Black Africans by any stretch.https://share.america.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/AP111001144984.jpg

hey, here's a thought. Maybe that role was written for the nasty racistbitch because Esme is written as a nasty racist bitch, and it's notabout skin color at all?

I saw a news article on this issue. I'm surprised that any stage playcould get approved in the first place when all but one of the mainroles are male. Shouldn't all the women have been complaining aboutbeing blocked out of stage time simply by the choice of play?Instead, it comes down to a cat fight between two women over which ofthem gets the single female role. It might be time to reboot GLEE sothese issues of 'color conscious casting' can play out on TV.

If they include any white cast members in Nu-Glee, I'm sure the girl andher mother who shut down the play will scream "racism" about the tv showtoo.

I saw a cast photo of that high school's last play, LEGALLY BLONDE, andalmost everyone was white, so I don't think the mere existence of whiteclassmates is the problem. Besides, GLEE took great joy in beingpolitically incorrect with regards to many of its 'hot button issues'.If they were going to get into hot water about the casting of Esmeraldait would probably because they cast a guy (likely transgender) for therole.Side note: GLEE did have a chunky black girl character, Mercedes, thatconstantly felt that she should get the starring role in everyproduction and used everything from fat shaming to racism as complaintswhen she didn't get what she wanted.

Post by ObveeusI saw a news article on this issue. I'm surprised that any stage playcould get approved in the first place when all but one of the main rolesare male. Shouldn't all the women have been complaining about beingblocked out of stage time simply by the choice of play? Instead, itcomes down to a cat fight between two women over which of them gets thesingle female role. It might be time to reboot GLEE so these issues of'color conscious casting' can play out on TV.

Glee was primarily about Rachel and her two rivals and the inevitablesetup for the song at the end of the show.

Rachel herself was completely insufferable and one REALLY enjoyedseeing awful things happen to her. Though with two Dads she wasdefinitely politically correct!

I most enjoyed Santana as the pushy Latina who always alwaysoverplayed her hand and was disappointed as a result.

To be fair though for a show that was supposed to be about high schoolclassmates 6 seasons was more than enough. Too many shows push theirformula too far and it shows. I enjoyed the last season but the plothad long since ceased to matter and was a self-parody by the end asthe whole "Britney Pearce" story line demonstrated.

“The Romani originated in Northern India and arrived in Mid-West Asia,and Europe around _1,000 years_ ago.”They’re not sub-Saharan Black Africans by any stretch.https://share.america.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/AP111001144984.jpg

And they sure as shit aren't whites with blonde hair and blue eyes...

--"Politicians can be cheered for the promises they make. Our country willbe judged by the promises we keep. That is the measure of ourcharacter, that's who we are. Out of many, One." - Joseph P. Kennedy III1-30-18

So now its =E2=80=9Cracist=E2=80=9D for White people to play White characte=rs in plays written by White peoplethat are set in White countries=E2=80=A6.

Esmeralda is a Gypsy. If we're not going with color-blind casting, thena black girl doesn't get the role either.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/26841/high-school-cancels-musical-amid-outra=ge-over-amanda-prestigiacomoByAMANDA PRESTIGIACOMOFebruary 6, 2018EQUALITY! SJWs Get High School Musical Canceled After White Student Lands L=eadStudent activists and community members helped to get a production of "The =Hunchback of Notre Dame"canceled at an Ithaca, New York high school after a white student was cast =in a lead role.According to the Ithaca Journal, five student activists wrote letters and p=ut out a list of demands aftera white student, who the SJW group concedes is a "a stellar actor, singer, =and dancer," was cast asEsmeralda. Additionally, black student, 17-year-old Maddi Carroll, quit the=play after the white studentwas cast.

It's probably best the show was cancelled, because if the show went on, the kid who was going to play the hunchback was going to get in trouble to for "appropriating a hunchback culture" or the school was going to get in trouble a second time for not having a real hunchback in the role.

Post by Ed StasiakAdditionally, black student, 17-year-old Maddi Carroll, quit the playafter the white student was cast. "It shows you that theater wasn't madefor you," Carroll told the Ithaca Journal. "And it shows you that,if you can't get the parts that are written for you

Why would you think the role of a white girl in 1500s Paris was writtenfor you, a black girl?

Post by Ed Stasiak"We speak, specifically, of the casting choice of the role of Esmerelda.Before we speak further, we want to stress that the talented young womanwho was cast in this role is a stellar actor, singer, and dancer. Shehas worked hard to hone her craft and the IHS stage, or any stage, wouldbe lucky to have her. Our concern is not with her, but with the fact thatin terms of demographics, she is the wrong choice for this role."

So she's the most talented performer, but we have to ignore that andfocus on what's most important-- her skin color. (Which actually isperfect for the role as written.)

Post by Ed Stasiak"The young woman who was cast in this role has hazel eyes, blonde hair,and is the epitome of whiteness," the activists add.

None of this makes any sense. The character *is* white. Esmeralda is agypsy from the Caucasus. You don't get more Caucasian than that.

They're apparently pissed that the actress both fits the role perfectlyand far outshines her peers in talent.

Post by Ed StasiakThe play was canceled. "We thank everyone for their contributions as wedelve further into complex conversations"

There's nothing complex about these 'conversations' whatsoever. This isjust a bunch of whiny proto-terrorists threatening people when theydon't get what they want.

Post by Ed StasiakSpeaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.'s message of love, unity, understanding,and inclusion."

Not hardly. They're judging this girl not on her talent and skill, buton the color of her skin. Pretty much the exact opposite of King'sphilosophy.

Post by Ed StasiakAdditionally, black student, 17-year-old Maddi Carroll, quit the playafter the white student was cast. "It shows you that theater wasn't madefor you," Carroll told the Ithaca Journal. "And it shows you that,if you can't get the parts that are written for you

Why would you think the role of a white girl in 1500s Paris was writtenfor you, a black girl?

Post by Ed Stasiak"We speak, specifically, of the casting choice of the role of Esmerelda.Before we speak further, we want to stress that the talented young womanwho was cast in this role is a stellar actor, singer, and dancer. Shehas worked hard to hone her craft and the IHS stage, or any stage, wouldbe lucky to have her. Our concern is not with her, but with the fact thatin terms of demographics, she is the wrong choice for this role."

So she's the most talented performer, but we have to ignore that andfocus on what's most important-- her skin color. (Which actually isperfect for the role as written.)

Post by Ed Stasiak"The young woman who was cast in this role has hazel eyes, blonde hair,and is the epitome of whiteness," the activists add.

None of this makes any sense. The character *is* white. Esmeralda is agypsy from the Caucasus. You don't get more Caucasian than that.They're apparently pissed that the actress both fits the role perfectlyand far outshines her peers in talent.

Post by Ed StasiakThe play was canceled. "We thank everyone for their contributions as wedelve further into complex conversations"

There's nothing complex about these 'conversations' whatsoever. This isjust a bunch of whiny proto-terrorists threatening people when theydon't get what they want.

the complexity is how much flak can they throw up to distract from theunderlying issue. They wanted a black lead actress and didn't get one.

Post by Ed StasiakSpeaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.'s message of love, unity, understanding,and inclusion."

Not hardly. They're judging this girl not on her talent and skill, buton the color of her skin. Pretty much the exact opposite of King'sphilosophy.

Sadly I doubt that anyone could get them to admit that they were wrongin their ideas. I get that some people think the right way to fixissues of racial inequality is set strict quotas that force roles/jobsto be given to people of color regardless of their skill but at leastadmit that's what you are doing. Don't bring in all of these fakearguments to try and defend your choices.

Post by Ed StasiakAdditionally, black student, 17-year-old Maddi Carroll, quit the playafter the white student was cast. "It shows you that theater wasn't madefor you," Carroll told the Ithaca Journal. "And it shows you that,if you can't get the parts that are written for you

Why would you think the role of a white girl in 1500s Paris was writtenfor you, a black girl?

Post by Ed Stasiak"We speak, specifically, of the casting choice of the role of Esmerelda.Before we speak further, we want to stress that the talented young womanwho was cast in this role is a stellar actor, singer, and dancer. Shehas worked hard to hone her craft and the IHS stage, or any stage, wouldbe lucky to have her. Our concern is not with her, but with the fact thatin terms of demographics, she is the wrong choice for this role."

So she's the most talented performer, but we have to ignore that andfocus on what's most important-- her skin color. (Which actually isperfect for the role as written.)

Post by Ed Stasiak"The young woman who was cast in this role has hazel eyes, blonde hair,and is the epitome of whiteness," the activists add.

None of this makes any sense. The character *is* white. Esmeralda is agypsy from the Caucasus. You don't get more Caucasian than that.They're apparently pissed that the actress both fits the role perfectlyand far outshines her peers in talent.

Post by Ed StasiakThe play was canceled. "We thank everyone for their contributions as wedelve further into complex conversations"

There's nothing complex about these 'conversations' whatsoever. This isjust a bunch of whiny proto-terrorists threatening people when theydon't get what they want.

Post by Ed StasiakSpeaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.'s message of love, unity, understanding,and inclusion."

Not hardly. They're judging this girl not on her talent and skill, buton the color of her skin. Pretty much the exact opposite of King'sphilosophy.

How do you know how talented she was?How do you know the content of her character?

You know dick.

--"Politicians can be cheered for the promises they make. Our country willbe judged by the promises we keep. That is the measure of ourcharacter, that's who we are. Out of many, One." - Joseph P. Kennedy III1-30-18

Post by Ed StasiakAdditionally, black student, 17-year-old Maddi Carroll, quit the playafter the white student was cast. "It shows you that theater wasn't madefor you," Carroll told the Ithaca Journal. "And it shows you that,if you can't get the parts that are written for you

Why would you think the role of a white girl in 1500s Paris was writtenfor you, a black girl?

Post by Ed Stasiak"We speak, specifically, of the casting choice of the role of Esmerelda.Before we speak further, we want to stress that the talented young womanwho was cast in this role is a stellar actor, singer, and dancer. Shehas worked hard to hone her craft and the IHS stage, or any stage, wouldbe lucky to have her. Our concern is not with her, but with the fact thatin terms of demographics, she is the wrong choice for this role."

So she's the most talented performer, but we have to ignore that andfocus on what's most important-- her skin color. (Which actually isperfect for the role as written.)

Post by Ed Stasiak"The young woman who was cast in this role has hazel eyes, blonde hair,and is the epitome of whiteness," the activists add.

None of this makes any sense. The character *is* white. Esmeralda is agypsy from the Caucasus. You don't get more Caucasian than that.They're apparently pissed that the actress both fits the role perfectlyand far outshines her peers in talent.

Post by Ed StasiakThe play was canceled. "We thank everyone for their contributions as wedelve further into complex conversations"

There's nothing complex about these 'conversations' whatsoever. This isjust a bunch of whiny proto-terrorists threatening people when theydon't get what they want.

Post by Ed StasiakSpeaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.'s message of love, unity, understanding,and inclusion."

Not hardly. They're judging this girl not on her talent and skill, buton the color of her skin. Pretty much the exact opposite of King'sphilosophy.

How do you know how talented she was?How do you know the content of her character?You know dick.

Thanny commenting on MLK without being struck dead--more proof there isno God.

Post by BTR1701None of this makes any sense. The character *is* white. Esmeralda is agypsy from the Caucasus. You don't get more Caucasian than that.

And Charlise Theron is black because she was born in South Africa, right?

Romany are descended from peoples in the Indian subcontinent.

--"Politicians can be cheered for the promises they make. Our country willbe judged by the promises we keep. That is the measure of ourcharacter, that's who we are. Out of many, One." - Joseph P. Kennedy III1-30-18

Post by BTR1701None of this makes any sense. The character *is* white. Esmeraldais a gypsy from the Caucasus. You don't get more Caucasian than that.

And Charlise Theron is black because she was born in South Africa, right?Romany are descended from peoples in the Indian subcontinent.

The *character in the story* is not from India, you dumb fuck. Whereother gypsies come from is irrelevant.

And where people are *from* doesn't change what's in their DNA.In the book she has "black hair and black eyes". That's a far cry fromblonde hair and blue eyes.

--"Politicians can be cheered for the promises they make. Our country willbe judged by the promises we keep. That is the measure of ourcharacter, that's who we are. Out of many, One." - Joseph P. Kennedy III1-30-18

“DNA tests have confirmed that a blonde-haired, blue-eyed girl named"Maria" found living with a Roma family in Greece is the child of Bulgariancouple Sasha Ruseva and Atanas Rusev, the BBC reports. Crucially, theBulgarian couple are Roma themselves.”

Post by FPPFPPAnd where people are *from* doesn't change what's in their DNA.In the book she has "black hair and black eyes". That's a far cryfrom blonde hair and blue eyes.

http://www.businessinsider.com/blonde-girls-and-roma-families-the-controversy-looks-stupider-every-day-2013-10“DNA tests have confirmed that a blonde-haired, blue-eyed girl named"Maria" found living with a Roma family in Greece is the child of Bulgariancouple Sasha Ruseva and Atanas Rusev, the BBC reports. Crucially, theBulgarian couple are Roma themselves.”

And Victor Hugo said Esmeralda has black hair and black eyes.

--"Politicians can be cheered for the promises they make. Our country willbe judged by the promises we keep. That is the measure of ourcharacter, that's who we are. Out of many, One." - Joseph P. Kennedy III1-30-18

Post by FPPFPPAnd where people are *from* doesn't change what's in their DNA.In the book she has "black hair and black eyes". That's a far cryfrom blonde hair and blue eyes.

http://www.businessinsider.com/blonde-girls-and-roma-families-the-controversy-looks-stupider-every-day-2013-10“DNA tests have confirmed that a blonde-haired, blue-eyed girl named"Maria" found living with a Roma family in Greece is the child of Bulgariancouple Sasha Ruseva and Atanas Rusev, the BBC reports. Crucially, theBulgarian couple are Roma themselves.”

Post by FPPFPPAnd where people are *from* doesn't change what's in their DNA.In the book she has "black hair and black eyes". That's a far cryfrom blonde hair and blue eyes.

http://www.businessinsider.com/blonde-girls-and-roma-families-the-controversy-looks-stupider-every-day-2013-10“DNA tests have confirmed that a blonde-haired, blue-eyed girl named"Maria" found living with a Roma family in Greece is the child of Bulgariancouple Sasha Ruseva and Atanas Rusev, the BBC reports. Crucially, theBulgarian couple are Roma themselves.”

And Victor Hugo said Esmeralda has black hair and black eyes.

https://share.america.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/AP111001144984.jpgDo any of those girls look black to you? Even one? And what hair colourdo you see on the third girl from the left? If that's not blonde, it'snot too far different either.

Where did I say the character should be played by a black person?And where do you see any of those girls having blonde hair? Or blue eyes?

I'm just surprised nobody just threw a wig on the girl and let her playit. That's why it's called "acting".

--"Politicians can be cheered for the promises they make. Our country willbe judged by the promises we keep. That is the measure of ourcharacter, that's who we are. Out of many, One." - Joseph P. Kennedy III1-30-18

Post by FPPAnd Victor Hugo said Esmeralda has black hair and black eyes.

https://share.america.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/AP111001144984.jpgDo any of those girls look black to you? Even one? And what hair colourdo you see on the third girl from the left? If that's not blonde, it'snot too far different either.

Where did I say the character should be played by a black person?

You didn't. You just did your typical schtick where you introducesomething completely irrelevant to distract from your fellow travelerswho are causing this whole controversy by demanding the character beplayed by a black person.

Post by FPPI'm just surprised nobody just threw a wig on the girl and let her playit. That's why it's called "acting".

Yeah, I somehow doubt that would be your position if Marvel had decidedto go with a white guy made up to look black for the lead in the BLACKPANTHER movie.

Post by FPPAnd Victor Hugo said Esmeralda has black hair and black eyes.

https://share.america.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/AP111001144984.jpgDo any of those girls look black to you? Even one? And what hair colourdo you see on the third girl from the left? If that's not blonde, it'snot too far different either.

Where did I say the character should be played by a black person?

You didn't. You just did your typical schtick where you introducesomething completely irrelevant to distract from your fellow travelerswho are causing this whole controversy by demanding the character beplayed by a black person.

Post by FPPI'm just surprised nobody just threw a wig on the girl and let her playit. That's why it's called "acting".

Yeah, I somehow doubt that would be your position if Marvel had decidedto go with a white guy made up to look black for the lead in the BLACKPANTHER movie.

Now you're just being stupid. Equating a High School production to atens of millions of dollars big budget installment of a franchise isn'teven in the same multiverse.

--"Politicians can be cheered for the promises they make. Our country willbe judged by the promises we keep. That is the measure of ourcharacter, that's who we are. Out of many, One." - Joseph P. Kennedy III1-30-18

Post by FPPAnd Victor Hugo said Esmeralda has black hair and black eyes.

https://share.america.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/AP111001144984.jpgDo any of those girls look black to you? Even one? And what hair colourdo you see on the third girl from the left? If that's not blonde, it'snot too far different either.

Where did I say the character should be played by a black person?

You didn't. You just did your typical schtick where you introducesomething completely irrelevant to distract from your fellow travelerswho are causing this whole controversy by demanding the character beplayed by a black person.

Post by FPPI'm just surprised nobody just threw a wig on the girl and let her playit. That's why it's called "acting".

Yeah, I somehow doubt that would be your position if Marvel had decidedto go with a white guy made up to look black for the lead in the BLACKPANTHER movie.

Now you're just being stupid. Equating a High School production to atens of millions of dollars big budget installment of a franchise isn'teven in the same multiverse.

The budget is completely irrelevant. The point in dispute is howprecisely one must cast a character in a dramatic production to matchthe author's original description to avoid charges of culturalappropriation.

Post by FPPAnd Victor Hugo said Esmeralda has black hair and black eyes.

https://share.america.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/AP111001144984.jpgDo any of those girls look black to you? Even one? And what hair colourdo you see on the third girl from the left? If that's not blonde, it'snot too far different either.

Where did I say the character should be played by a black person?

You didn't. You just did your typical schtick where you introducesomething completely irrelevant to distract from your fellow travelerswho are causing this whole controversy by demanding the character beplayed by a black person.

Post by FPPI'm just surprised nobody just threw a wig on the girl and let her playit. That's why it's called "acting".

Yeah, I somehow doubt that would be your position if Marvel had decidedto go with a white guy made up to look black for the lead in the BLACKPANTHER movie.

Now you're just being stupid. Equating a High School production to atens of millions of dollars big budget installment of a franchiseisn't even in the same multiverse.

The budget is completely irrelevant. The point in dispute is howprecisely one must cast a character in a dramatic production to matchthe author's original description to avoid charges of culturalappropriation.

Of course the budget is relevant, as it largely dictates the breadth oftalent available to a production. The premise here is that the chosengirl was far and away the major talent in her high school -- whereas wemight expect a big Hollywood budget to scour the earth for a "perfect"fit for the role. The real issue here is whether a high-school class isa large enough population to be concerned about issues of "diversity"and "representation".

Post by FPPAnd Victor Hugo said Esmeralda has black hair and black eyes.

https://share.america.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/AP111001144984.jpgDo any of those girls look black to you? Even one? And what hair colourdo you see on the third girl from the left? If that's not blonde, it'snot too far different either.

Where did I say the character should be played by a black person?

You didn't. You just did your typical schtick where you introducesomething completely irrelevant to distract from your fellow travelerswho are causing this whole controversy by demanding the character beplayed by a black person.

Post by FPPI'm just surprised nobody just threw a wig on the girl and let her playit. That's why it's called "acting".

Yeah, I somehow doubt that would be your position if Marvel had decidedto go with a white guy made up to look black for the lead in the BLACKPANTHER movie.

Now you're just being stupid. Equating a High School production to atens of millions of dollars big budget installment of a franchiseisn't even in the same multiverse.

The budget is completely irrelevant. The point in dispute is howprecisely one must cast a character in a dramatic production to matchthe author's original description to avoid charges of culturalappropriation.

Of course the budget is relevant, as it largely dictates the breadth oftalent available to a production. The premise here is that the chosengirl was far and away the major talent in her high school -- whereas wemight expect a big Hollywood budget to scour the earth for a "perfect"fit for the role. The real issue here is whether a high-school class isa large enough population to be concerned about issues of "diversity"and "representation".

A high school production typically only spends money on sets, costumesand such things; the actors don't get paid at all. The high schoolpresumably has a policy that the actors have to attend the school; thatlimits who can be a candidate for the roles, not the budget.

Post by FPPAnd Victor Hugo said Esmeralda has black hair and black eyes.

https://share.america.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/AP111001144984.jpgDo any of those girls look black to you? Even one? And what hair colourdo you see on the third girl from the left? If that's not blonde, it'snot too far different either.

Where did I say the character should be played by a black person?

You didn't. You just did your typical schtick where you introducesomething completely irrelevant to distract from your fellow travelerswho are causing this whole controversy by demanding the character beplayed by a black person.

Post by FPPI'm just surprised nobody just threw a wig on the girl and let her playit. That's why it's called "acting".

Yeah, I somehow doubt that would be your position if Marvel had decidedto go with a white guy made up to look black for the lead in the BLACKPANTHER movie.

Now you're just being stupid. Equating a High School production toa tens of millions of dollars big budget installment of a franchiseisn't even in the same multiverse.

The budget is completely irrelevant. The point in dispute is howprecisely one must cast a character in a dramatic production to matchthe author's original description to avoid charges of culturalappropriation.

Of course the budget is relevant, as it largely dictates the breadthof talent available to a production. The premise here is that thechosen girl was far and away the major talent in her high school --whereas we might expect a big Hollywood budget to scour the earth fora "perfect" fit for the role. The real issue here is whether ahigh-school class is a large enough population to be concerned aboutissues of "diversity" and "representation".

A high school production typically only spends money on sets, costumesand such things; the actors don't get paid at all. The high schoolpresumably has a policy that the actors have to attend the school; thatlimits who can be a candidate for the roles, not the budget.

Yes, but the topic was the relevance of budget. For a $30m movie therange of actual performance talent for, say, the top 10 contenders for agiven role is probably small. Thus, more attention can be paid toancillary minutiae, like complexion.

Post by FPPAnd Victor Hugo said Esmeralda has black hair and black eyes.

https://share.america.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/AP111001144984.jpgDo any of those girls look black to you? Even one? And what hair colourdo you see on the third girl from the left? If that's not blonde, it'snot too far different either.

Where did I say the character should be played by a black person?

You didn't. You just did your typical schtick where you introducesomething completely irrelevant to distract from your fellow travelerswho are causing this whole controversy by demanding the character beplayed by a black person.

Post by FPPI'm just surprised nobody just threw a wig on the girl and let her playit. That's why it's called "acting".

Yeah, I somehow doubt that would be your position if Marvel had decidedto go with a white guy made up to look black for the lead in the BLACKPANTHER movie.

Now you're just being stupid. Equating a High School production to atens of millions of dollars big budget installment of a franchise isn'teven in the same multiverse.

The budget is completely irrelevant. The point in dispute is howprecisely one must cast a character in a dramatic production to matchthe author's original description to avoid charges of culturalappropriation.

Man, you stand a greater chance of scoring Gold in the Winter Olympicsthan you have of engaging in a discussion with FPP in which he sayssomething relevant to what is being discussed.

You stand a greater chance of being part of the diplomatic team thatengages with North Korea that is successful in getting them to stopthreating South Korea and Japan with conventional and atomic weapons ona permanent basis than you have of engaging in a discussion with FPP inwhich he says something relevant to the discussion and makes aworthwhile observation.

Post by FPPAnd Victor Hugo said Esmeralda has black hair and black eyes.

https://share.america.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/AP111001144984.jpgDo any of those girls look black to you? Even one? And what hair colourdo you see on the third girl from the left? If that's not blonde, it'snot too far different either.

Where did I say the character should be played by a black person?

You didn't. You just did your typical schtick where you introducesomething completely irrelevant to distract from your fellow travelerswho are causing this whole controversy by demanding the character beplayed by a black person.

Post by FPPAnd Victor Hugo said Esmeralda has black hair and black eyes.

https://share.america.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/AP111001144984.jpgDo any of those girls look black to you? Even one? And what hair colourdo you see on the third girl from the left? If that's not blonde, it'snot too far different either.

Where did I say the character should be played by a black person?

You didn't. You just did your typical schtick where you introducesomething completely irrelevant to distract from your fellow travelerswho are causing this whole controversy by demanding the character beplayed by a black person.

Post by FPPAnd Victor Hugo said Esmeralda has black hair and black eyes.

https://share.america.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/AP111001144984.jpgDo any of those girls look black to you? Even one? And what hair colourdo you see on the third girl from the left? If that's not blonde, it'snot too far different either.

Where did I say the character should be played by a black person?

You didn't. You just did your typical schtick where you introducesomething completely irrelevant to distract from your fellow travelerswho are causing this whole controversy by demanding the character beplayed by a black person.

Post by FPPI'm just surprised nobody just threw a wig on the girl and let her playit. That's why it's called "acting".

Yeah, I somehow doubt that would be your position if Marvel had decidedto go with a white guy made up to look black for the lead in the BLACKPANTHER movie.

If the white guy were (somehow) the plainly far superior candidate,then, yeah, it'd be *my* position. Of course, that has nothing to dowith "affirmative action" in casting a high-school play.

Post by FPPFPPAnd where people are *from* doesn't change what's in their DNA.In the book she has "black hair and black eyes". That's a far cryfrom blonde hair and blue eyes.

http://www.businessinsider.com/blonde-girls-and-roma-families-the-controversy-looks-stupider-every-day-2013-10“DNA tests have confirmed that a blonde-haired, blue-eyed girl named"Maria" found living with a Roma family in Greece is the child of Bulgariancouple Sasha Ruseva and Atanas Rusev, the BBC reports. Crucially, theBulgarian couple are Roma themselves.”

And Victor Hugo said Esmeralda has black hair and black eyes.

https://share.america.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/AP111001144984.jpgDo any of those girls look black to you? Even one? And what hair colourdo you see on the third girl from the left? If that's not blonde, it'snot too far different either.

Where did I say the character should be played by a black person?

The blacks who protested the selection of the white actress, you idiot!

Post by FPPAnd where do you see any of those girls having blonde hair? Or blue eyes?

The third girl from the left, you idiot! I've seen girls with hair thatcolour - or very close - that have been described as blond. Not platinumblond, of course, but one of the darker shades of blond.

Post by FPPI'm just surprised nobody just threw a wig on the girl and let her playit. That's why it's called "acting".

Post by FPPFPPAnd where people are *from* doesn't change what's in their DNA.In the book she has "black hair and black eyes". That's a far cryfrom blonde hair and blue eyes.

http://www.businessinsider.com/blonde-girls-and-roma-families-the-controversy-looks-stupider-every-day-2013-10“DNA tests have confirmed that a blonde-haired, blue-eyed girl named"Maria" found living with a Roma family in Greece is the child of Bulgariancouple Sasha Ruseva and Atanas Rusev, the BBC reports. Crucially, theBulgarian couple are Roma themselves.”

And Victor Hugo said Esmeralda has black hair and black eyes.

That's great, but you do realize you're trying to explain this to one ofLes Miserables, right?

Post by FPPFPPAnd where people are *from* doesn't change what's in their DNA.In the book she has "black hair and black eyes". That's a far cryfrom blonde hair and blue eyes.

http://www.businessinsider.com/blonde-girls-and-roma-families-the-controversy-looks-stupider-every-day-2013-10“DNA tests have confirmed that a blonde-haired, blue-eyed girl named"Maria" found living with a Roma family in Greece is the child of Bulgariancouple Sasha Ruseva and Atanas Rusev, the BBC reports. Crucially, theBulgarian couple are Roma themselves.”

And Victor Hugo said Esmeralda has black hair and black eyes.

That's great, but you do realize you're trying to explain this to one ofLes Miserables, right?

I'm just surprised he doesn't want to build a wall to keep her out.

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Post by BTR1701None of this makes any sense. The character *is* white. Esmeraldais a gypsy from the Caucasus. You don't get more Caucasian than that.

And Charlise Theron is black because she was born in South Africa, right?Romany are descended from peoples in the Indian subcontinent.

The *character in the story* is not from India, you dumb fuck. Whereother gypsies come from is irrelevant.

And where people are *from* doesn't change what's in their DNA.In the book she has "black hair and black eyes". That's a far cryfrom blonde hair and blue eyes.

And what was her skin colour? I'm pretty sure it wasn't black!

Hugo never said... so it's up to your imagination.

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Post by BTR1701None of this makes any sense. The character *is* white. Esmeralda is agypsy from the Caucasus. You don't get more Caucasian than that.

And Charlise Theron is black because she was born in South Africa, right?Romany are descended from peoples in the Indian subcontinent.

Well, there you go posting nonresponses whenever you've lost the debateagain!

And they are. That's just a fact... something I wouldn't expect you tounderstand.

--"Politicians can be cheered for the promises they make. Our country willbe judged by the promises we keep. That is the measure of ourcharacter, that's who we are. Out of many, One." - Joseph P. Kennedy III1-30-18

Post by BTR1701None of this makes any sense. The character *is* white. Esmeraldais a gypsy from the Caucasus. You don't get more Caucasian thanthat.

And Charlise Theron is black because she was born in South Africa, right?Romany are descended from peoples in the Indian subcontinent.

Steve Nash used to annoy his NBA team mates by insisting he (born inJohannesburg, SA but raised in Victoria, Canada) was the only "trueAfrican" in the dressing room.

Back when I was in college, we had a student cause all sorts of proggieangst when she applied for one of the university's African-Americanscholarships.

Problem was, she was as blonde, blue-eyed, and white as Kristen Bell.

But you see, she was born of American diplomats living in South Africa,so she had dual citizenship. She literally was African-American.

Of course the school denied her, saying, "But... but.. but... that's notwhat we meant! We meant "black", but since we can't say "black", we hadto use the PC-approved term."

She ended up suing the school and the court ruled in her favor, tellingthe university that if they meant "black", they should have said "black"and as there was no actual requirement anywhere in the scholarshipeligibility requirements other than the student be "African-American",the girl met the qualifications.

So many progs' heads exploded on campus that day, it sounded like the4th of July. I remember it fondly...

Conversely, there was a black girl in the university orchestra who wasethnically of Australian aborigine descent, but much to her frustration,the university insisted on classifying her as "African-American" whenshe was in reality Australian-American.

Of course if you go back far enough, we're *all* of African descent, sothe whole thing is pretty much meaningless.

Post by BTR1701None of this makes any sense. The character *is* white. Esmeraldais a gypsy from the Caucasus. You don't get more Caucasian thanthat.

And Charlise Theron is black because she was born in South Africa, right?Romany are descended from peoples in the Indian subcontinent.

Steve Nash used to annoy his NBA team mates by insisting he (born inJohannesburg, SA but raised in Victoria, Canada) was the only "trueAfrican" in the dressing room.

Back when I was in college, we had a student cause all sorts of proggieangst when she applied for one of the university's African-Americanscholarships.Problem was, she was as blonde, blue-eyed, and white as Kristen Bell.But you see, she was born of American diplomats living in South Africa,so she had dual citizenship. She literally was African-American.Of course the school denied her, saying, "But... but.. but... that's notwhat we meant! We meant "black", but since we can't say "black", we hadto use the PC-approved term."She ended up suing the school and the court ruled in her favor, tellingthe university that if they meant "black", they should have said "black"and as there was no actual requirement anywhere in the scholarshipeligibility requirements other than the student be "African-American",the girl met the qualifications.So many progs' heads exploded on campus that day, it sounded like the4th of July. I remember it fondly...Conversely, there was a black girl in the university orchestra who wasethnically of Australian aborigine descent, but much to her frustration,the university insisted on classifying her as "African-American" whenshe was in reality Australian-American.Of course if you go back far enough, we're *all* of African descent, sothe whole thing is pretty much meaningless.

Wow, those are fun stories. The problem is, you think you're making apoint on race but what you're really doing is showing how in the eyes ofthe law how the words are interpreted mean everything. There's no wayyou studied to be a lawyer, you couldn't have possibly passed those classes.

Post by BTR1701None of this makes any sense. The character *is* white. Esmeralda is agypsy from the Caucasus. You don't get more Caucasian than that.

And Charlise Theron is black because she was born in South Africa, right?Romany are descended from peoples in the Indian subcontinent.

Steve Nash used to annoy his NBA team mates by insisting he (born inJohannesburg, SA but raised in Victoria, Canada) was the only "trueAfrican" in the dressing room.

I read a comparable anecdote in the comments section of a website Ivisit occasionally. The commenter noted that his work colleague, who waswhite and had been born and raised in South Africa before emigrating tothe US, consistently ticked the "African-American" box on the HR forms.Apparently, it really drove the HR folks nuts but they couldn't figureout any way to make him stop because it was literally true.

By the same token, I'd be more than happy to describe myself as a"person of colour" on any government form if given the opportunity.White is a colour as much as yellow, red, brown or black. The onlypeople who have no colour are those who are literally transparent and Ihave never heard of anyone like that. Even albinos have colour.

And if some bureaucrat asks if I'm white or non-white, I'll say I'mnon-white because I've seen paint samples in the hardware store and I amdefinitely NOT white: I'm a beigey-pink colour like most peopledescended from Europeans.

Post by BTR1701None of this makes any sense. The character *is* white. Esmeralda is agypsy from the Caucasus. You don't get more Caucasian than that.

And Charlise Theron is black because she was born in South Africa, right?

Huh? Who said any such thing?

Post by FPPRomany are descended from peoples in the Indian subcontinent.

DISTANTLY descended. Their ancestors have been away from India farlonger than most African-Americans have been away from Africa and lookhow light-skinned some of *them* are. (Yes, I know that was largely dueto rape of slave girls by their white owners and that's wrong.) I'mguessing that gypsies didn't always intermarry with other gypsies overthe past 1400 years so a light-skinned gypsy is hardly unthinkable. It'sfar less likely that a gypsy would be so dark that she would appearAfrican.

Post by BTR1701None of this makes any sense. The character *is* white. Esmeralda is agypsy from the Caucasus. You don't get more Caucasian than that.

And Charlise Theron is black because she was born in South Africa, right?

Huh? Who said any such thing?

It was implied that because the character was from the Caucasus, thegirl was white.That would track that somebody born in South Africa would look black.

Both statements would be dead wrong... as my sarcastic question implies.

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Post by BTR1701None of this makes any sense. The character *is* white. Esmeralda is agypsy from the Caucasus. You don't get more Caucasian than that.

And Charlise Theron is black because she was born in South Africa, right?

Huh? Who said any such thing?

Post by FPPRomany are descended from peoples in the Indian subcontinent.

DISTANTLY descended. Their ancestors have been away from India farlonger than most African-Americans have been away from Africa and lookhow light-skinned some of *them* are. (Yes, I know that was largely dueto rape of slave girls by their white owners and that's wrong.) I'mguessing that gypsies didn't always intermarry with other gypsies overthe past 1400 years so a light-skinned gypsy is hardly unthinkable. It'sfar less likely that a gypsy would be so dark that she would appearAfrican.

This is true, but they were a distinct ethnic minority that every 15thcentury Frenchman could recognize as "other".

Post by BTR1701None of this makes any sense. The character *is* white. Esmeralda is agypsy from the Caucasus. You don't get more Caucasian than that.

And Charlise Theron is black because she was born in South Africa, right?

Huh? Who said any such thing?

Post by FPPRomany are descended from peoples in the Indian subcontinent.

DISTANTLY descended. Their ancestors have been away from India farlonger than most African-Americans have been away from Africa and lookhow light-skinned some of *them* are. (Yes, I know that was largely dueto rape of slave girls by their white owners and that's wrong.) I'mguessing that gypsies didn't always intermarry with other gypsies overthe past 1400 years so a light-skinned gypsy is hardly unthinkable. It'sfar less likely that a gypsy would be so dark that she would appearAfrican.

This is true, but they were a distinct ethnic minority that every 15thcentury Frenchman could recognize as "other".

How the fuck is it any different in Europe today? They're "the other"because they're itinerant and therefore strangers everywhere theytravel, not so much due to how they look. Enlightened Europeans continueto discriminate against them to this day.

In any event, they were all mixed ethnicity anyway, given theirtraveling and mingling.

And now that I've looked it up, you do know that Esmeralda was merelykidnapped by Gypsies, not born a Gypsy, right? You looked it up too,right?

Post by BTR1701None of this makes any sense. The character *is* white. Esmeralda is agypsy from the Caucasus. You don't get more Caucasian than that.

And Charlise Theron is black because she was born in South Africa, right?

Huh? Who said any such thing?

Post by FPPRomany are descended from peoples in the Indian subcontinent.

DISTANTLY descended. Their ancestors have been away from India farlonger than most African-Americans have been away from Africa and lookhow light-skinned some of *them* are. (Yes, I know that was largelydue to rape of slave girls by their white owners and that's wrong.)I'm guessing that gypsies didn't always intermarry with other gypsiesover the past 1400 years so a light-skinned gypsy is hardlyunthinkable. It's far less likely that a gypsy would be so dark thatshe would appear African.

This is true, but they were a distinct ethnic minority that every 15thcentury Frenchman could recognize as "other".

But was that because of skin colour and facial features? Or because theyspoke Romani languages or wore clothes that were characteristic ofRomani? I'm guessing all of those were a factor, not just skin colour orfeatures.

Post by BTR1701None of this makes any sense. The character *is* white. Esmeralda is agypsy from the Caucasus. You don't get more Caucasian than that.

And Charlise Theron is black because she was born in South Africa, right?

Huh? Who said any such thing?

Post by FPPRomany are descended from peoples in the Indian subcontinent.

DISTANTLY descended. Their ancestors have been away from India farlonger than most African-Americans have been away from Africa andlook how light-skinned some of *them* are. (Yes, I know that waslargely due to rape of slave girls by their white owners and that'swrong.) I'm guessing that gypsies didn't always intermarry with othergypsies over the past 1400 years so a light-skinned gypsy is hardlyunthinkable. It's far less likely that a gypsy would be so dark thatshe would appear African.

This is true, but they were a distinct ethnic minority that every 15thcentury Frenchman could recognize as "other".

But was that because of skin colour and facial features?

They were endogamous and foreign enough that they were visibly distinctfrom the population at large.

Post by BTR1701None of this makes any sense. The character *is* white. Esmeralda is agypsy from the Caucasus. You don't get more Caucasian than that.

And Charlise Theron is black because she was born in South Africa, right?

Huh? Who said any such thing?

Post by FPPRomany are descended from peoples in the Indian subcontinent.

DISTANTLY descended. Their ancestors have been away from India farlonger than most African-Americans have been away from Africa andlook how light-skinned some of *them* are. (Yes, I know that waslargely due to rape of slave girls by their white owners and that'swrong.) I'm guessing that gypsies didn't always intermarry with othergypsies over the past 1400 years so a light-skinned gypsy is hardlyunthinkable. It's far less likely that a gypsy would be so dark thatshe would appear African.

This is true, but they were a distinct ethnic minority that every 15thcentury Frenchman could recognize as "other".

But was that because of skin colour and facial features?

They were endogamous and foreign enough that they were visibly distinctfrom the population at large.

Post by BTR1701None of this makes any sense. The character *is* white. Esmeralda is agypsy from the Caucasus. You don't get more Caucasian than that.

And Charlise Theron is black because she was born in South Africa, right?

Huh? Who said any such thing?

Post by FPPRomany are descended from peoples in the Indian subcontinent.

DISTANTLY descended. Their ancestors have been away from India farlonger than most African-Americans have been away from Africa andlook how light-skinned some of *them* are. (Yes, I know that waslargely due to rape of slave girls by their white owners and that'swrong.) I'm guessing that gypsies didn't always intermarry with othergypsies over the past 1400 years so a light-skinned gypsy is hardlyunthinkable. It's far less likely that a gypsy would be so dark thatshe would appear African.

This is true, but they were a distinct ethnic minority that every 15thcentury Frenchman could recognize as "other".

But was that because of skin colour and facial features?

They were endogamous and foreign enough that they were visibly distinctfrom the population at large.

Mostly because they wore funny clothing.

And spoke funny.

--Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservationinstinct are running screaming.

Post by BTR1701None of this makes any sense. The character *is* white. Esmeraldais a gypsy from the Caucasus. You don't get more Caucasian thanthat.

And Charlise Theron is black because she was born in South Africa, right?

Huh? Who said any such thing?

No one. That just FPP flailing around trying to distract from the realissue raised by the SJWs in the article.

It's called a comparison.

Esmeralda musts be white because of where she was born. (Caucasus)Charlize must be black because of where she was born. (South Africa)

See? Comparison. Both are fallacies.Thanny doesn't like it when his faulty logic spit back at him. Wheneveryou do, you're "distracting" him.

Tell me, Thanny... who brought up that Esmeralda was born in the Caucasus?

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Post by Ed StasiakSpeaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.'s message of love, unity, understanding,and inclusion."

Not hardly. They're judging this girl not on her talent and skill, buton the color of her skin. Pretty much the exact opposite of King'sphilosophy.

I'll bet it has absolutely nothing to do with the color of her skin, that'sjust the excuse they thought the school would listen to.I am female and I was involved in some theater in high school, behind thescenes. I *knew* these girls. My (still) best friend usually got the lead.Until the sabotage started.It's competitive and hateful and coalitions and alliances are formed, basedon whom inspires the most jealousy that week.Teenage girls can be the worst people on the planet.

...and yet they allowed the choice of a play with only one main femalepart in the first place. If only they had gotten their act togetherearlier, they (the two girls) might both have had roles.

Post by Ed StasiakSpeaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.'s message of love, unity, understanding,and inclusion."

Not hardly. They're judging this girl not on her talent and skill, buton the color of her skin. Pretty much the exact opposite of King'sphilosophy.

I'll bet it has absolutely nothing to do with the color of her skin, that'sjust the excuse they thought the school would listen to.I am female and I was involved in some theater in high school, behind thescenes. I *knew* these girls. My (still) best friend usually got the lead.Until the sabotage started.It's competitive and hateful and coalitions and alliances are formed, basedon whom inspires the most jealousy that week.Teenage girls can be the worst people on the planet.

....and yet they allowed the choice of a play with only one main femalepart in the first place. If only they had gotten their act togetherearlier, they (the two girls) might both have had roles.

Yeah, I'm wondering about why they didn't go with that angle, but I'mguessing it goes back to revenge and cattiness.

I could tell some stories.

It never got quite so far as crushed light bulbs in dancing shoes, but itwas close.

Post by Ed StasiakSpeaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.'s message of love, unity, understanding,and inclusion."

Not hardly. They're judging this girl not on her talent and skill, buton the color of her skin. Pretty much the exact opposite of King'sphilosophy.

I'll bet it has absolutely nothing to do with the color of her skin, that'sjust the excuse they thought the school would listen to.I am female and I was involved in some theater in high school, behind thescenes. I *knew* these girls. My (still) best friend usually got the lead.Until the sabotage started.It's competitive and hateful and coalitions and alliances are formed, basedon whom inspires the most jealousy that week.Teenage girls can be the worst people on the planet.

...and yet they allowed the choice of a play with only one main femalepart in the first place. If only they had gotten their act togetherearlier, they (the two girls) might both have had roles.

So now whole swaths of the theatre repertoire should be off limits fromthe get-go because they're not 'diverse' enough?

Post by Ed StasiakSpeaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.'s message of love, unity, understanding,and inclusion."

Not hardly. They're judging this girl not on her talent and skill, buton the color of her skin. Pretty much the exact opposite of King'sphilosophy.

I'll bet it has absolutely nothing to do with the color of her skin, that'sjust the excuse they thought the school would listen to.I am female and I was involved in some theater in high school, behind thescenes. I *knew* these girls. My (still) best friend usually got the lead.Until the sabotage started.It's competitive and hateful and coalitions and alliances are formed, basedon whom inspires the most jealousy that week.Teenage girls can be the worst people on the planet.

...and yet they allowed the choice of a play with only one main femalepart in the first place. If only they had gotten their act togetherearlier, they (the two girls) might both have had roles.

So now whole swaths of the theatre repertoire should be off limits fromthe get-go because they're not 'diverse' enough?

Don't be silly. It's not "whole swaths of the theater". It's high school.It's not serious theater, it's kids playing around. Jesus, half the schoolsaround here still do Bye, Bye, Birdie. You're not gonna see Hamlet, you'regonna see Lil Abner or South Pacific.

And Grease is very popular in high schools. It was hilarious when afreshman kid auditioned with Greased Lightning, but sang the originalversion, because he didn't have a clue.

Post by Ed StasiakSpeaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.'s message of love, unity, understanding,and inclusion."

Not hardly. They're judging this girl not on her talent and skill, buton the color of her skin. Pretty much the exact opposite of King'sphilosophy.

I'll bet it has absolutely nothing to do with the color of her skin, that'sjust the excuse they thought the school would listen to.I am female and I was involved in some theater in high school, behind thescenes. I *knew* these girls. My (still) best friend usually got the lead.Until the sabotage started.It's competitive and hateful and coalitions and alliances are formed, basedon whom inspires the most jealousy that week.Teenage girls can be the worst people on the planet.

...and yet they allowed the choice of a play with only one main femalepart in the first place. If only they had gotten their act togetherearlier, they (the two girls) might both have had roles.

So now whole swaths of the theatre repertoire should be off limits fromthe get-go because they're not 'diverse' enough?

Don't be silly. It's not "whole swaths of the theater". It's high school.It's not serious theater, it's kids playing around. Jesus, half the schoolsaround here still do Bye, Bye, Birdie. You're not gonna see Hamlet, you'regonna see Lil Abner or South Pacific.And Grease is very popular in high schools. It was hilarious when afreshman kid auditioned with Greased Lightning, but sang the originalversion, because he didn't have a clue.

And Sandy, who looks just like Sandra Dee, is clearly a part written fora nasty racist black girl.

Post by Ed StasiakSpeaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.'s message of love, unity, understanding,and inclusion."

Not hardly. They're judging this girl not on her talent and skill, buton the color of her skin. Pretty much the exact opposite of King'sphilosophy.

I'll bet it has absolutely nothing to do with the color of her skin, that'sjust the excuse they thought the school would listen to.I am female and I was involved in some theater in high school, behind thescenes. I *knew* these girls. My (still) best friend usually got the lead.Until the sabotage started.It's competitive and hateful and coalitions and alliances are formed, basedon whom inspires the most jealousy that week.Teenage girls can be the worst people on the planet.

...and yet they allowed the choice of a play with only one main femalepart in the first place. If only they had gotten their act togetherearlier, they (the two girls) might both have had roles.

So now whole swaths of the theatre repertoire should be off limits fromthe get-go because they're not 'diverse' enough?

Don't be silly. It's not "whole swaths of the theater". It's high school.It's not serious theater, it's kids playing around. Jesus, half the schoolsaround here still do Bye, Bye, Birdie. You're not gonna see Hamlet, you'regonna see Lil Abner or South Pacific.And Grease is very popular in high schools. It was hilarious when afreshman kid auditioned with Greased Lightning, but sang the originalversion, because he didn't have a clue.

And Sandy, who looks just like Sandra Dee, is clearly a part written fora nasty racist black girl.

You are thinking of Rizzo.

GREASE and ROMEO & JULIETTE would both be good examples of plays thathad multiple lead characters of both genders and would make good senseas high school plays.

Yopu have to figure that a normal high school has 50 or so kids (50/50gender mix) interested in drama club / classes / plays minimum. Itmakes no sense to put on a play with only one main female character. Aplay like that would best be left to your Catholic high school whereonly boys were allowed in and one of them is willing to dress up as thefemale character just so he can make fun of women.

Post by Ed StasiakSpeaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.'s message of love, unity, understanding,and inclusion."

Not hardly. They're judging this girl not on her talent and skill, buton the color of her skin. Pretty much the exact opposite of King'sphilosophy.

I'll bet it has absolutely nothing to do with the color of her skin, that'sjust the excuse they thought the school would listen to.I am female and I was involved in some theater in high school, behind thescenes. I *knew* these girls. My (still) best friend usually got the lead.Until the sabotage started.It's competitive and hateful and coalitions and alliances are formed, basedon whom inspires the most jealousy that week.Teenage girls can be the worst people on the planet.

...and yet they allowed the choice of a play with only one main femalepart in the first place. If only they had gotten their act togetherearlier, they (the two girls) might both have had roles.

So now whole swaths of the theatre repertoire should be off limits fromthe get-go because they're not 'diverse' enough?

Don't be silly. It's not "whole swaths of the theater". It's high school.It's not serious theater, it's kids playing around. Jesus, half the schoolsaround here still do Bye, Bye, Birdie. You're not gonna see Hamlet, you'regonna see Lil Abner or South Pacific.And Grease is very popular in high schools. It was hilarious when afreshman kid auditioned with Greased Lightning, but sang the originalversion, because he didn't have a clue.

And Sandy, who looks just like Sandra Dee, is clearly a part written fora nasty racist black girl.

You are thinking of Rizzo.GREASE and ROMEO & JULIETTE would both be good examples of plays thathad multiple lead characters of both genders and would make good senseas high school plays.

Both genders? Aren't there 31 genders recognized today?

Post by ObveeusYopu have to figure that a normal high school has 50 or so kids (50/50gender mix) interested in drama club / classes / plays minimum. Itmakes no sense to put on a play with only one main female character. Aplay like that would best be left to your Catholic high school whereonly boys were allowed in and one of them is willing to dress up as thefemale character just so he can make fun of women.

Post by Ed StasiakSpeaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.'s message of love, unity, understanding,and inclusion."

Not hardly. They're judging this girl not on her talent and skill, buton the color of her skin. Pretty much the exact opposite of King'sphilosophy.

I'll bet it has absolutely nothing to do with the color of her skin, that'sjust the excuse they thought the school would listen to.I am female and I was involved in some theater in high school, behind thescenes. I *knew* these girls. My (still) best friend usually got the lead.Until the sabotage started.It's competitive and hateful and coalitions and alliances are formed, basedon whom inspires the most jealousy that week.Teenage girls can be the worst people on the planet.

...and yet they allowed the choice of a play with only one main femalepart in the first place. If only they had gotten their act togetherearlier, they (the two girls) might both have had roles.

So now whole swaths of the theatre repertoire should be off limits fromthe get-go because they're not 'diverse' enough?

Don't be silly. It's not "whole swaths of the theater". It's high school.It's not serious theater, it's kids playing around. Jesus, half the schoolsaround here still do Bye, Bye, Birdie. You're not gonna see Hamlet, you'regonna see Lil Abner or South Pacific.And Grease is very popular in high schools. It was hilarious when afreshman kid auditioned with Greased Lightning, but sang the originalversion, because he didn't have a clue.

And Sandy, who looks just like Sandra Dee, is clearly a part written fora nasty racist black girl.

And in case you're too culturally ignorant to pick up on that, they hammeryou over the head by devoting an entire song to it.

Post by Ed StasiakSpeaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.'s message of love, unity, understanding,and inclusion."

Not hardly. They're judging this girl not on her talent and skill, buton the color of her skin. Pretty much the exact opposite of King'sphilosophy.

I'll bet it has absolutely nothing to do with the color of her skin, that'sjust the excuse they thought the school would listen to.I am female and I was involved in some theater in high school, behind thescenes. I *knew* these girls. My (still) best friend usually got

Post by LesmondUntil the sabotage started.It's competitive and hateful and coalitions and alliances are formed, basedon whom inspires the most jealousy that week.Teenage girls can be the worst people on the planet.

...and yet they allowed the choice of a play with only one main femalepart in the first place. If only they had gotten their act togetherearlier, they (the two girls) might both have had roles.

So now whole swaths of the theatre repertoire should be off limits fromthe get-go because they're not 'diverse' enough?

Don't be silly. It's not "whole swaths of the theater". It's high school.It's not serious theater, it's kids playing around. Jesus, half the schoolsaround here still do Bye, Bye, Birdie. You're not gonna see Hamlet, you'regonna see Lil Abner or South Pacific.And Grease is very popular in high schools. It was hilarious when afreshman kid auditioned with Greased Lightning, but sang the originalversion, because he didn't have a clue.If the students are serious about acting, there are drama classes.

Ahem.

As I've mentioned before, I played in the pit orchestra when my highschool did musicals. It was great fun and the musicians and the actorsall took it seriously. If you're not trying to put on the best show youcan do, it's not fun at all.

Serious theater? Well, it's relative to the talents of the kids.

Yeah, there are high school productions of Hamlet. South Pacific soundsa little ambitious for a high school, but I guess you can throw enoughenough kids at it to fill the stage.

Um, Grease was about actual kids who were tough and violent, not theversion as sanitized for later musical theater productions and the jokeof a movie. It's highly likely to be a script that principals would findheavily objectionable.

Post by Ed StasiakSpeaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.'s message of love, unity, understanding,and inclusion."

Not hardly. They're judging this girl not on her talent and skill, buton the color of her skin. Pretty much the exact opposite of King'sphilosophy.

I'll bet it has absolutely nothing to do with the color of her skin, that'sjust the excuse they thought the school would listen to.I am female and I was involved in some theater in high school, behind thescenes. I *knew* these girls. My (still) best friend usually got

Post by LesmondUntil the sabotage started.It's competitive and hateful and coalitions and alliances are formed, basedon whom inspires the most jealousy that week.Teenage girls can be the worst people on the planet.

...and yet they allowed the choice of a play with only one main femalepart in the first place. If only they had gotten their act togetherearlier, they (the two girls) might both have had roles.

So now whole swaths of the theatre repertoire should be off limits fromthe get-go because they're not 'diverse' enough?

Don't be silly. It's not "whole swaths of the theater". It's high school.It's not serious theater, it's kids playing around. Jesus, half the schoolsaround here still do Bye, Bye, Birdie. You're not gonna see Hamlet, you'regonna see Lil Abner or South Pacific.And Grease is very popular in high schools. It was hilarious when afreshman kid auditioned with Greased Lightning, but sang the originalversion, because he didn't have a clue.If the students are serious about acting, there are drama classes.

Ahem.As I've mentioned before, I played in the pit orchestra when my highschool did musicals. It was great fun and the musicians and the actorsall took it seriously. If you're not trying to put on the best show youcan do, it's not fun at all.Serious theater? Well, it's relative to the talents of the kids.Yeah, there are high school productions of Hamlet. South Pacific soundsa little ambitious for a high school, but I guess you can throw enoughenough kids at it to fill the stage.Um, Grease was about actual kids who were tough and violent, not theversion as sanitized for later musical theater productions and the jokeof a movie. It's highly likely to be a script that principals would findheavily objectionable.

I think the whole point is that lids takw it seriouslly. But they areteenagers doing teenage plays and musicals.Everything was the most importantthing in the world because we were teenagers.

Post by LesmondIf the students are serious about acting, there are drama classes.

Ahem.As I've mentioned before, I played in the pit orchestra when my highschool did musicals. It was great fun and the musicians and the actorsall took it seriously. If you're not trying to put on the best show youcan do, it's not fun at all.Serious theater? Well, it's relative to the talents of the kids.Yeah, there are high school productions of Hamlet. South Pacific soundsa little ambitious for a high school, but I guess you can throw enoughenough kids at it to fill the stage.

I was pit orchestra for our high school, too. We did Brigadoon, Guys &Dolls, and West Side Story.

Post by Adam H. KermanUm, Grease was about actual kids who were tough and violent, not theversion as sanitized for later musical theater productions and the jokeof a movie. It's highly likely to be a script that principals would findheavily objectionable.

They should do Reefer Madness. Awesome musical and would drive all thestuffed shirts nuts.

Post by Ed StasiakSpeaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.'s message of love, unity, understanding,and inclusion."

Not hardly. They're judging this girl not on her talent and skill, buton the color of her skin. Pretty much the exact opposite of King'sphilosophy.

I'll bet it has absolutely nothing to do with the color of her skin, that'sjust the excuse they thought the school would listen to.I am female and I was involved in some theater in high school, behind thescenes. I *knew* these girls. My (still) best friend usually got the lead.Until the sabotage started.It's competitive and hateful and coalitions and alliances are formed, basedon whom inspires the most jealousy that week.Teenage girls can be the worst people on the planet.

Post by Ed StasiakSpeaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.'s message of love, unity, understanding,and inclusion."

Not hardly. They're judging this girl not on her talent and skill, buton the color of her skin. Pretty much the exact opposite of King'sphilosophy.

I'll bet it has absolutely nothing to do with the color of her skin, that'sjust the excuse they thought the school would listen to.I am female and I was involved in some theater in high school, behind thescenes. I *knew* these girls. My (still) best friend usually got the lead.Until the sabotage started.It's competitive and hateful and coalitions and alliances are formed, basedon whom inspires the most jealousy that week.Teenage girls can be the worst people on the planet.

Post by Ed StasiakSpeaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.'s message of love, unity, understanding,and inclusion."

Not hardly. They're judging this girl not on her talent and skill, buton the color of her skin. Pretty much the exact opposite of King'sphilosophy.

I'll bet it has absolutely nothing to do with the color of her skin, that'sjust the excuse they thought the school would listen to.I am female and I was involved in some theater in high school, behind thescenes. I *knew* these girls. My (still) best friend usually got the lead.Until the sabotage started.It's competitive and hateful and coalitions and alliances are formed, basedon whom inspires the most jealousy that week.Teenage girls can be the worst people on the planet.

Upvote for insight...

Thank you. I wondered why no one else thought of this, but you are all guysand do not have memories of what it's like to be a teen girl. In theater.

Post by Ed StasiakSpeaking to Fox News, the social justice activists said they are "in linewith Martin Luther King, Jr.'s message of love, unity, understanding,and inclusion."

Not hardly. They're judging this girl not on her talent and skill, buton the color of her skin. Pretty much the exact opposite of King'sphilosophy.

I'll bet it has absolutely nothing to do with the color of her skin, that'sjust the excuse they thought the school would listen to.I am female and I was involved in some theater in high school, behind thescenes. I *knew* these girls. My (still) best friend usually got the lead.Until the sabotage started.It's competitive and hateful and coalitions and alliances are formed, basedon whom inspires the most jealousy that week.Teenage girls can be the worst people on the planet.

Upvote for insight...

Thank you. I wondered why no one else thought of this, but you are all guysand do not have memories of what it's like to be a teen girl. In theater.