I have still got to fit the push rods and REC, then I need to work out the programming on the motors to give the rudder differential and get the settings adjusted to give me equal thrust on both motors as I work the throttle.. So a bit of work to do..

I just found the specs on the goolie and added them to my previous post..
What is encouraging is that their wing loading comes out almost the same as mine, at 4.4 oz sq ft, so I hope my slow speed flight is also as good..
My version is heavier by 3oz so I presume theirs should accelerate better, mine might be better in more wind...but with a slightly different power/prop system, its a wait and see...but with a 2:1 power weight ratio I think it will be good... my only worry at the moment is I am not using counter rotating props..

I am also searching for KF builds and slowly adding them to the pics and links thread.
Hopefully people will add their own builds, but if not I will be posting the links...
So if you see your design here ... http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1122108 ..and would like to add or correct any info to the post, please PM me..

For many of us Tony65x55's KFm1 Zagnutz was our introduction to slow and easy to fly flying wings. A truly addictive design with it's lovely parachute maneuver and simple build.

I built it in KFm4 with FFF giving up a little of the slow flying and getting much better penetration and tracking. This has been a very long lived and versatile flyer, at 18-20 oz. with a 3S and 4S A123 batteries, it is the best windy day flying wing I have.

The good news:
He got in two flights and did very well. I took the Buzzard up and had to bring it down for a bit of reflex to be adjusted in. Then up again with a click here and a click there and then I got it trimmed for a good slow hands off stable flight around 1/2 throttle. I handed the transmitter to him and he managed to maneuver it around a bit and landed OK by himself. Flight #2 was a bit longer, maybe two minutes, but ended up in a coco tree. No damage. I had two flights after that as the wind kicked in and he calmed down. He said the heart was really pounding.
Bad News:
Battery failure in the camera lost Edna's video but I'll have him up again soon and we'll get some video to post. I don't think it will be too long before he does his own side arm launches.

To be 22 again and have those good reflexes. He'll be better than me in no time.

Update on the Canard:
I'm pissed. The fuselage is not done and it' weighs in at 160g, already, without any gear or the wings on. Way too heavy! I'm trying a substitute stick fuse that's only around 50g We'll see how it goes but I'm just about ready to chuck it. Maybe I'd better just stick with wings and deltas.

I'm one who staunchly avoid putting together anything that uses the most fragile part of the airplane to lead the parade into hard landings, trees, etc.
Jack

You are obviously much more intelligent than I.

This whole exercise is because I want a little bitty wing in front. I have spent the last 9 months or so, since getting into the model airplane hobby for about the 5th time, coming to the conclusion that "less is better and no fins is better still". Now, for the sake of that little itty-bitty front wing, I'm throwing all that newly acquired wisdom to the wind and frustrating the hell out of myself. It's reminiscent of my first two marriages. Must be some king of psychological BS like "Self Flagellation" or something like the pursuit of spiritual purity through self-inflicted agony.

Maybe it's time to back up five yards and punt.

Steve.

Edit:
In Tagbilaran and we got a bit of flying time in this morning. Here's a vid of Tata flying the Buzzard flying wing. He's doing great and I hope soon to have two planes up at the same time.

My Canard wasn't working out weight wise so I did a small mod. The original fuselage was over 160g alone. I think it looks better (cleaner) without the canard. I will try to get it to fly that way first then add a canard if I want to later. I like the look but have no idea how it will fly.

I can use elevons without the canard, or canard-elevator and ailerons or elevons front and back or elevons with canard elevator assist. We'll see how it goes.
They all morph and never come out the way they are planned.

The CYCLONE has flown.. this is the renamed superfly/goolie crossbreed. using a KFm4 wing
here is the video..
there are problems but, not with the airframe..they are with getting the motors running equal as you power up...watch what happens as I throttle up..
Luckily at 1/4 throttle all was in ballance, and it was flying well..
It certainly rotates when you use the rudder to vary each motors speed, it made me laugh
the build is here.. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...t=977954&page=3

after another tune up another flight, and the same problem shows up. increase the throtle and it does a nice right turn ,,you can hold left rudder whist doing that but its a pain..
other problems ....Hand launch shows bad torqe rolling.....with two props it glides like a brick...after the glide giving up throttle gives a bad torque rolling movement and the motor problems make it worse throwing the line off
what is nice is the differential motor control, its much more effective than just a rudder...
with half power, half up elevator and full rudder the cyclone rotates like a loony and only slowly comes down...
And the power to weight ratio lets it go up like a rocket
If I can sort the motor problems it will be great... If I cant..well I dont know
At the moment even though its not right it is making me laugh
To start with a couple of counter rotating props will help, and may be two new motors so they come from the same batch

edit another possible solution cane from flying llama... use a gyro.. or even two..now why didnt I think of that....

after another tune up another flight, and the same problem shows up. increase the throttle and it does a nice right turn ,,you can hold left rudder whist doing that but its a pain..
other problems ....Hand launch shows bad torque rolling.....with two props it glides like a brick...after the glide giving up throttle gives a bad torque rolling movement and the motor problems make it worse throwing the line off
what is nice is the differential motor control, its much more effective than just a rudder...
with half power, half up elevator and full rudder the cyclone rotates like a loony and only slowly comes down...
And the power to weight ratio lets it go up like a rocket
If I can sort the motor problems it will be great... If I cant..well I don't know
At the moment even though its not right it is making me laugh
To start with a couple of counter rotating props will help, and may be two new motors so they come from the same batch

Looks like fun Dave,
It's Wed Oct 14th at about 00:19am. Just got the download of your flight done and watched...
Reason says the reverse prop on one side should handle most of the problems. Some weird maneuvers there!