Yeah this guy is certainly not "normal", hes a mega douche. Is this normal for this industry? Preying on the weak? Is that part of what dominant Se- does, act like a predator etc? Not predator in bad connoted sexual way, but predator as in takes from the weak. IE lions will take down the weak and the young.

lawl, I mean we all gotta pay the mortgage some how. If being a dick does the trick then being a dick does the trick.

No. You need to at least do something of some remote value. Legally conning your way into money is no different than being a criminal. It's also just taking the lazy route.. I understand he is SLE, but do you really need to stand up for him for that reason alone? Would you make money by ripping off prospective 19 year old models? It's pretty pathetic. What would be your purpose in life? No purpose ...
I don't see any difference between a gang banger and the worthless people on wallstreet who con their way into millions through technicalities. I actually see the investors as even more pathetic cuz they'll actually front as respectable.
This guy's not quite that pathetic, though.

No. You need to at least do something of some remote value. Legally conning your way into money is no different than being a criminal. It's also just taking the lazy route.. I understand he is SLE, but do you really need to stand up for him for that reason alone? Would you make money by ripping off prospective 19 year old models? It's pretty pathetic. What would be your purpose in life? No purpose ...
I don't see any difference between a gang banger and the worthless people on wallstreet who con their way into millions through technicalities. I actually see the investors as even more pathetic cuz they'll actually front as respectable.
This guy's not quite that pathetic, though.

You mean it's ethically no different than being a criminal? As in he's just as despicable? In any case, sure I'll concede that what he's doing is rather underhanded despite it being legal. As for it being lazy, right again I mean forwarding public information is pretty damn simple.

And no I wouldn't rip off 19 year old models. I'd prefer the challenge of legitimacy. Or at the very least a grander and more complicated scam. Like on matchstick men, that movie is cool as shit.

I'm not standing up for him because he's SLE I'm standing up for him because I want to have this conversation and it's not going to happen unless I take up devils advocate. In any case, yes he's a dick, yes he's underhanded but I hardly think this is anything to get worked up about. I mean what he's doing isn't surprising, isn't new, and isn't being done by only him. Shitty agents are all over the place, why prosecute the individual when the whole group is at fault? It just seems naive to me to think that the removal of this one person from the situation will solve a problem that's been around long before this ass-hat. This man is a symptom, not the disease. You can cure the symptoms but at the end of the day until you cure the disease anything you do isn't going to have any lasting, or worthwhile effect. The symptoms will just keep coming back until the disease is cured.

Besides, If 19 year old girls with their heads in the stars can't be bothered to take following their dreams seriously and do a little research which would quickly reveal that the two things you never do when it comes to agents are A) Pay anything up front, or before you get the job and B) Never sign any contract with compensation that exceeds 10% of the income from the job that the agent got you (Or sign anything until your agent has actually gotten you a job for that matter), then I think I'm entitled to a little chuckle.

EDIT: Also I demand proof that life actually requires a purpose cause that's a conversation I'm even more interested in.

Ethically no different yes. But it's also just as non-productive for society at large.

You demand proof that life requires a purpose. OK

Without purpose, life falls into stagnation, decay, and eventually death. What would happen if the cells in your body all forgot the roles they played and started acting erratically? If your immune cells forgot their purpose and just started eating on your guts..
It's bad for both the body at large and the cells themselves.

Do you see the backlash the man in the article is suffering for his aimlessness? That's a very clear, negative repercussion. But there are also very subtle negative repercussions which he'd experience on a day to day level. The symbiotic bonds you form by living life with purpose benefit yourself and others. He isn't benefiting from bonds like that..
You either participate in life with people or you leech them dry.. which lands you despised and rejected. At the very least ignored.
If the man had run a legitimate modeling agency he'd of stayed in business and formed stronger bonds in the business.. with colleagues and with clients. He'd probably have models sucking him off right now. Maybe he would of met a wife and settled down with her. You really can't predict those kinds of potential payoffs.

So you live it with purpose because it benefits you. It benefits you in a way which lasts, which you can't really con your way into.

Whether this explanation is sufficient for the rare low risk, high payoff cons is sort of questionable. For that I can say three things. One, when things move to that large scale you're causing serious harm and that's more of a moral issue. Two, the disposition the person has will bleed over into their entire life, and their life will reflect it. There is no escaping who you are. Three, like I said some things are just impossible to con your way into - you may end up with a really beautiful gold digger of a wife. etc.

You talk about symptoms and diseases.
I think the same argument I just made wins out. He hurts himself by participating. Why would you want to become part of a disease?

You seem to be equating living life with purpose to being morally and ethically sound and if that's what you meant by your original statement I'm sorry for misunderstanding you. But that's not what I meant and I'm sorry but I didn't mean to pose my question in relation to this thread, so I'm getting a little off topic here. What I mean is why is it necessary that one live life with an over-arching goal or objective.

For example why is it necessary for Christians to advocate that god gives life purpose? Why do atheists dedicate themselves to proving that he doesn't exist? Why is it necessary that life have any objective or point at all? Why is it important that life, the universe, and everything have any meaning or point of any kind?

So maybe life doesn't have a point, what's the big deal? Why is that a problem? Why not just have as much fun as you can while your here?

I mean I seem to live my life without any over-riding goal/objective/meaning/point and I don't seem to be any worse off than any one else. I mean you could argue that I'm not aware of my purpose, or rather that my purpose is in some way to not have a purpose, but assuming that isn't the case I certainly don't feel like I'm any less fulfilled than anyone else.

Why do people always say that crap? It's just as easy for straight men to get laid if you are hot. And ugly people are rejected all the time sadly just like anybody else. Plenty of girls just want some sex back at your place and you don't have to buy them gifts and shit.

Why do people always say that crap? It's just as easy for straight men to get laid if you are hot. And ugly people are rejected all the time sadly just like anybody else. Plenty of girls just want some sex back at your place and you don't have to buy them gifts and shit.

I don't think that the difference that most people perceive is actually availability so much as ease of effective tactics. I.E. "You wanna go have sex?" As opposed to "You like soup?! I like soup! Let's make babies."

See both tactics essentially end in sex, but the one involving babies (The straight one) has like six extra words. And quite frankly most people just aren't intelligent enough to figure out that soup is the key, so they just bitch and moan about how life would be so much easier if they could just cut out that hidden soup part and become gay.

Maybe... but with some women, 6 extra words from you, and maybe they think your gay, they just want some soup and don't ever want to fuck, and then on top of that you gotta make some soup. The interaction part is not what they're talking about so much as the material requirements that seem to turn women on because of the instinctual stuff in them.

Many thanks to those who actually ADDED to the list unlike those bitching about some dick (sounds like an ovulation issue , and yes, I'm just bitching for no reason ).

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"From their lives, and not least from their greatest fault--their inability to communicate--we may understand one of the greatest errors of our civilization, that is, the superstitious belief in verbal statements, the boundless overestimation of instruction by means of words and methods."--C.G. Jung on the introverted irrational types

"From their lives, and not least from their greatest fault--their inability to communicate--we may understand one of the greatest errors of our civilization, that is, the superstitious belief in verbal statements, the boundless overestimation of instruction by means of words and methods."--C.G. Jung on the introverted irrational types

The first example in a thread that's supposed to be giving examples of my type is of a low-life scammer. The rest of the first page is covered with examples of more criminals posted by a guy with an avatar of rotting teeth. This thread should be renamed "SLE criminals".

There's also crazedrat being sane and moral, which is kind of wilding me out.