The RUDE series started in 1980 according to Pasite, but I would need to know about the serial number to tell the 1980s ones from the reissue ones. The RUDE series doesn't appear in the Rogers price list scan I've got which is dated Sep 12, 1980. Don't know why the RUDE series isn't there. In the absence of the Paiste-Only-Wiki I can't say much else, except that the 20" Ride/Crash model averages around 2388g according to the weight table from the Paiste Only site. Thanks to GCourt49, I've got a copy of the weight table in spreadsheet form available for download here: http://black.net.nz/paiste/paiste-wts-by-series.ods

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The RUDE series started in 1980 according to Pasite, but I would need to know about the serial number to tell the 1980s ones from the reissue ones. The RUDE series doesn't appear in the Rogers price list scan I've got which is dated Sep 12, 1980. Don't know why the RUDE series isn't there. In the absence of the Paiste-Only-Wiki I can't say much else, except that the 20" Ride/Crash model averages around 2388g according to the weight table from the Paiste Only site. Thanks to GCourt49, I've got a copy of the weight table in spreadsheet form available for download here: http://black.net.nz/paiste/paiste-wts-by-series.ods

Always great info! When I get it, I plan to weight and get better pics and the serial number. thanks again