In 009 I would like to use the automatic configuration of X that is in 000. To make it nice I would like to open xrandrshell on the *first boot* so that the user can easily make a change to resolution if need be--but in most cases it should be OK and the info will be only informative--perfectly OK. But I don't want it opening on subsequent boots of course.

So, how to run a program on first boot only? Thanks. It is one thing holding up 009--which I think will serve as an alpha.

Hello Eyes-Only, We have been together quite a while now, back into the K-Meleon days. It is always a pleasure to associate with a gentleman of such graciousness--and discernment I am very glad you are enjoying Luci Pup. Merci.

Hi just a quick report on the experimental lucid - 'fraid it didn't get past the Xorgwizard. I'm assuming it's the old picking the wrong intel driver problem (that lupup008 gives you the option to choose). So the Ubuntu way is not too smart if it's picking the wrong driver

Having said that - I tried the Ubuntu 10.04beta2 running off a usbstick and although it boots with the speed of a dead dog, it did find the right driver - so they're obviously doing something right.

Hi just a quick report on the experimental lucid - 'fraid it didn't get past the Xorgwizard. I'm assuming it's the old picking the wrong intel driver problem (that lupup008 gives you the option to choose). So the Ubuntu way is not too smart if it's picking the wrong driver

Having said that - I tried the Ubuntu 10.04beta2 running off a usbstick and although it boots with the speed of a dead dog, it did find the right driver - so they're obviously doing something right.

hey darwinevolved, in 009 you will be able to go to new-wizard if the auto config fails and that has the option to handle the alrenate intel driver. Please let us know. thanks.

Hi just a quick report on the experimental lucid - 'fraid it didn't get past the Xorgwizard. I'm assuming it's the old picking the wrong intel driver problem (that lupup008 gives you the option to choose). So the Ubuntu way is not too smart if it's picking the wrong driver

Having said that - I tried the Ubuntu 10.04beta2 running off a usbstick and although it boots with the speed of a dead dog, it did find the right driver - so they're obviously doing something right.

hey darwinevolved, in 009 you will be able to go to new-wizard if the auto config fails and that has the option to handle the alternate intel driver. Please let us know. thanks.

As soon as 009 is out, I'll give it a whirl.
On a completely unrelated point - has anybody tried to get apt/synaptic working? - I know there was a lot of work done on it for dpup but it's all gone quiet over there.
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On a completely unrelated point - has anybody tried to get apt/synaptic working? - I know there was a lot of work done on it for dpup but it's all gone quiet over there.

No on apt/synaptic. We will not have that implemented when we release Lucid Puppy. it is an interesting point. On first thought it seems like a no brainer and maybe it is something for 5.1, but it does not work absolutely straightforwardly--that is, Lucid puppy has a different organization and consequently not all ubuntu programs are a straight fit. What I mean by saying that Lucid puppy can use ubuntu binaries is that it is easier than ever to prepare programs for use in a Puppy. You can see that from the list of programs in QuickPackage, I did several of those per day (01micko did some and a few were adopted from earlier Puppies). Personally, I have put the energy into making sure that a small number of very high quality programs are available for LuciPup and that they are configured and tested for LuciPup and available with a one-click install. Those are the ones in QP. That is not what apt/synaptic would give us even in the best of conditions. On the idea that LuciPup is to be friendly and easy, I think the one-click install with the big pretty colorful icons is desirable. i hope that makes sense.

If you try compiling that driver module under either Quirky-018 or Wary-019 using its own devx, you might succeed, and the resulting .ko (copied over into Lupu's /lib/modules/2.6.33.2) should run under Lupu

downloaded it to test it. its alot cleaner then puppy 4.3. i just hope you don't move away from pets as your main packages. when on a live cd using debs normaly downloads a bunch of other libarys. i know puppy 4.4 is the last of the series before 5.0 woof.

im using a old machine and the new puppy broswer is so fast even with flash plugin that you included

On a completely unrelated point - has anybody tried to get apt/synaptic working? - I know there was a lot of work done on it for dpup but it's all gone quiet over there.

No on apt/synaptic. We will not have that implemented when we release Lucid Puppy. it is an interesting point. On first thought it seems like a no brainer and maybe it is something for 5.1, but it does not work absolutely straightforwardly--that is, Lucid puppy has a different organization and consequently not all ubuntu programs are a straight fit. What I mean by saying that Lucid puppy can use ubuntu binaries is that it is easier than ever to prepare programs for use in a Puppy. You can see that from the list of programs in QuickPackage, I did several of those per day (01micko did some and a few were adopted from earlier Puppies). Personally, I have put the energy into making sure that a small number of very high quality programs are available for LuciPup and that they are configured and tested for LuciPup and available with a one-click install. Those are the ones in QP. That is not what apt/synaptic would give us even in the best of conditions. On the idea that LuciPup is to be friendly and easy, I think the one-click install with the big pretty colorful icons is desirable. i hope that makes sense.

Yes of course it makes sense.

95% of my time (probably 100% of the work I do) is spent on a handful of programs: openoffice, firefox, thunderbird, foxit, so getting those to work on a one click install is really appreciated.

The other 5% is spent mucking around - I'm a Windows refugee, not a developer / programmer and however ugly a solution apt/synaptic is, it makes life really easy for people like me. Having said that, I recognise that getting it to work for a frugal install is hard (I did follow all the discussions for the dpup attempt) and not on the radar for 5.0. I was just curious if anybody had had a go getting it to work.

I just compiled Joe Wing's latest JWM revision 490. in lupu-009. Seems to work just fine for me. Apparently there were some problems with assigning keyboard shortcuts and with this version it is fixed.

It is the same one BarryK uses in Quirky and the latest known version of GtkDialog.

The main executable is gtkdialog3 but I have made a symlink to it called gtkdialog, that will run gtkdialog scripts not made in Puppy. Also compiled on 009. Works fine. Many of zigbert's newer apps will work better with this one, notably Pburn and DuDE.

Also included is a DOC pet needed for the devx,sfs. It has all the examples which are an important tool for developers, they are missing from all lupu's devx so far.

lupu009:
quickpackage v1.2: click pwidgets icon and the gui then blanks out and nothing seems to happen, same in lupu008.

cosmetics:
file system> file managers> rox ; one sub menu too many.
same in graphics>graphics processing> only two to chose from so reduce it to previous menu.
and business> calculate> ditto
document> document publishing>abiword too far for just one option.

Pwidgets is hosted on Caneri's puppylinux.ca server and the last few days he has had problems on and off. Worked ok for me. Perhaps I'll put in an error message if the server, whatever server it may be, has a problem.

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