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Comments on MetaFilter post Oh Sure, Everyone Always Remembers The First, Never The SecondTue, 14 Jul 2009 13:36:25 -0800Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:36:25 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60Oh Sure, Everyone Always Remembers The First, Never The Secondhttp://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second
Catscan.com sure is a strange site. But did you know <a href="http://www.jennicam.org/">Jennicam</a> (deadlink... <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/25/">previously</a>) is nowadays hailed as <a href="http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gadgets/0,39029552,49296926-2,00.htm">one of the greatest now-defunct websites to have ever existed</a>? Operated by <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1478850/">Jennifer Ringley</a> and <a href="http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/12/05/0536233" title="pffft.... only seven?">closed in 2003 after seven years of a very popular existence</a> , Jennicam was a guilty pleasure that for the longest time seemed lost to the newest denizens of the intertubes. <a href="http://worshiptheglitch.com/2007/02/jennishow-episodes-41-43.html">Thankfully all 43 episodes can be viewed online</a>! Once you've feasted on that digital archive, check out the interview <a href="http://www.spike.com/video/behind-scenes-with/2833649">Jenni gave to Webjunk back in 2007</a>, and <a href="http://www.polyamory.org/~howard/Jenni/">read some of the sonnets inspired by her work</a>.post:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:26:40 -0800Effigy2000tenth25secondjennicamtenyearsBy: joukehttp://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2649994
If only metafilter would be defunct.
It would be even greater.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2649994Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:36:25 -0800joukeBy: krautlandhttp://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2650012
guilty pleasure is about right. I never could quite figure out why she fascinated then-me. rarely did anything happen and physically she was far from being 'my type,' yet I kept visiting that site. I suspect others did the same.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2650012Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:41:47 -0800krautlandBy: Effigy2000http://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2650039
<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2649994">jouke</a>: "<i>If only metafilter would be defunct.
It would be even greater.</i>"
Metafilter Jackson?
<small>Too soon?</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2650039Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:49:18 -0800Effigy2000By: NotMyselfRightNowhttp://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2650040
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennicam">From Wikipedia</a>: <i>"As Ringley attracted a following both on and off the Internet, more than 100 media outlets from The Wall Street Journal to <b>Modern Ferret</b> ran features."</i>comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2650040Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:49:20 -0800NotMyselfRightNowBy: geoff.http://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2650051
Ah, Jennicam. The first time in Internet history where media commentary and analysis became inversely proportional to how interesting something really is.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2650051Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:52:48 -0800geoff.By: GuyZerohttp://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2650063
People kept watching to see if she got naked? I mean, it's not that deep is it?comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2650063Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:56:10 -0800GuyZeroBy: adipocerehttp://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2650070
I knew her a long, long time ago on IRC. She really wasn't about the smut, although many of her later viewers tuned in to Jennicam for just that reason. When we first "met" she was using this new <em>digital camera</em> (imagine me saying it slowly, with air quotes) in one of the labs on campus to take random photos of her body like a calf here, a bicep there. I had to go to a lab on my campus just to see the by-our-standards-now tiny <code>gif</code> (at that point, <code>jpeg</code>s were unknown to me) of her calf. My college didn't even have a scanner at the time, and here was something where you didn't even have to go through film to get the image onto a computer.
She told us she considered the device as a potential start of an art project to expose parts of her life to strangers. If she took a photo of her breast, well, that was part of her body, and she'd neither focus on it nor avoid it in her plans. She never sent anything risque, just this assemblage of parts. It was one of those things I kept dwelling on, because it made me think that the future was going to be verrrry interesting.
Maybe three years later, she came back and let us know about the cam and I made the connection &mdash; hey! that's Jennicam! I heard about that!
I wonder if I still have any of her old files around.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2650070Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:58:46 -0800adipocereBy: benzenedreamhttp://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2650092
If you strike metafilter down, It shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2650092Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:08:22 -0800benzenedreamBy: klangklangstonhttp://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2650101
Heh. We used to tune in from our high school, which was where we had internet access (in the biology classroom!). I don't think I actually saw her, like, more than once. The vast majority of it was her empty dorm room—probably because she had classes at the same time we did.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2650101Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:11:55 -0800klangklangstonBy: Kickstart70http://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2650110
I watched for the nudity, I admit it. But really, even that wasn't all that interesting. Other sites, like JameyDee and AugustLive (at approximately the same time) were more interesting. Earthcam's "TV" top personal cams followed suit and still were about the people rather than the T&amp;A.
Now we have a preponderance of webcam sites and none stand out. Big sites like LiveJasmin cater to having a quantity of bland and available nudity rather than personality. Further, most of what is available is just recorded video "cleverly" tailored to look live, with not-the-camgirl typing responses to the horndogs.
Not that I work/worked in this industry or anything.......comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2650110Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:15:09 -0800Kickstart70By: Kickstart70http://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2650123
FWIW, the only cam/video show I miss is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snack_Boy">SnackBoy</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2650123Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:22:56 -0800Kickstart70By: Phantomxhttp://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2650126
I remember tuning in to Jennicam many years ago. In fact, I was just talking about her site last week. Something about video on the web and some of the first stuff. A nice little trip down memory lane.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2650126Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:23:13 -0800PhantomxBy: infinitewindowhttp://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2650225
I'll be honest, I initially tuned in to JenniCam for the nudity. But after a while I just watched for the real life. It was kind of comforting seeing somebody else just hanging out at their computer, just like I was.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2650225Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:08:09 -0800infinitewindowBy: holgatehttp://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2650234
MetaNostalgia: <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/comments.mefi/10680">When camgirls attack</a>. (<a href="http://metatalk.metafilter.com/985/">MeTa'd here</a>.)comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2650234Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:11:33 -0800holgateBy: emeijihttp://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2650280
<i>People kept watching to see if she got naked? I mean, it's not that deep is it?</i>
<a href="http://www2.canada.com/theprovince/news/unwind/story.html?id=3cf8dc85-517a-4b09-a8c2-cf999378664e">Like watching that fireplace video for elusive shots of the hand coming to tend the fire.</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2650280Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:36:48 -0800emeijiBy: rongorongohttp://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2650320
Jennicam always reminded me of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0bZHQD-VTs">this scene in Gregory's Girl</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2650320Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:59:34 -0800rongorongoBy: Who_Am_Ihttp://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2650428
<i>From Wikipedia: "As Ringley attracted a following both on and off the Internet, more than 100 media outlets from The Wall Street Journal to Modern Ferret ran features."</i>
Yeah she had a ferret or two IIRC. JenniCam was one of the first sites that I checked regularly when I first got on the Internet, along with the awesome InPassing (the progenitor of Overheard in New York). This was my first exposure to seeing into the lives of real people who I didn't know, something the internet has made commonplace now. I still have one of her neat webcam closeup <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/who_am_i/3722252344/">shots</a> of her screaming at the camera.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2650428Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:06:31 -0800Who_Am_IBy: dammitjimhttp://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2650495
<em>MetaNostalgia: When camgirls attack. (MeTa'd here.)</em>
Holy god, am I glad I missed that the first time around. As some of the comments in the MeTa thread noted, reading that thread sucked some IQ out of my head.
If anyone ever needs a reminder of why we all hang out here: <a href="http://www.thatsaspicymeatball.com/comments/">Metafilter comments vs. Youtube comments</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2650495Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:54:33 -0800dammitjimBy: GavinRhttp://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2650538
Ah, I forgot all about Audiogalaxy until I read that article on defunct sites. That place was great!!!comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2650538Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:26:55 -0800GavinRBy: furtivehttp://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2650666
So, which episodes should I be watching?comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2650666Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:14:05 -0800furtiveBy: humboldt32http://www.metafilter.com/83256/Oh-Sure-Everyone-Always-Remembers-The-First-Never-The-Second#2652059
izzicam was 1k times better.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.83256-2652059Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:57:54 -0800humboldt32