That discussion was great, this is what C9 is about. It's great having Joe on again, his problem domain is an extremely interesting one. If you get the chance I want to know about Joe's new unnamed language that he said he'd been working on.

This video followed the C9 formula for success (in my opinion):

1. Passionate discussion

2. Interesting topic

3. Reference and/or sneak-peak to future direction

4. A conversation not a press release

Note: Although this video followed the above pattern for success, anything with Erik Meijer/Brian Beckman == win

stevo, you should check out the ProMesh.NET MVC Web Framework. I tried to go to ASP.Net MVC but ended up going back to ProMesh as i missed things in ProMesh. I really don't like how ASP.Net MVC still uses aspx
files, i want pure html files with an expressive server-side language. ProMesh provides that, and the next version is taking that model and improving it by enabling a similar routing engine as ASP.NET MVC and giving you the option to define your own server-side
language. Ajax support is also great.

I was really looking forward to ASP.NET MVC but I don’t think they have taken it far enough.