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10th in ERA-, adding Verlander and Cole isn't enough, and I don't trust Keuchel (3.79 ERA, 3.83 FIP the last two years).

Originally Posted by Sixers3Fan

Canít wait to hear why the Red Sox arenít in the top 5

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Because they had a 92 wRC+ last year, 22nd best in baseball. Adding Martinez is nice, and they have a lot of good young players, but that's going to take a lot to improve upon. Devers and Nunez are clearly facing regressions unless they can change their profiles.

Side note - it's annoying when fans criticize lists, but don't offer their own for judgement.

Surprised to see the Rockies as a top 5 offensive lineup. Outside of Nolan and Blackmon, Iím not sure what everyone sees unless you are all predicting McMahon becomes a top 10 first basemen this year.

LaMahieu can hit both at home and the road. McMahon will add some pop to the lineup. I think David Dahl is gonna be a star in this league. And Trevor Story still has potential not April 2016 potential, but I like his bat

Astros are top 5 rotation all day long. The rotation is stacked with no worse than a high end number 3 as the fifth option and three guys who have shown ace full seasons within the last three years.

If Cole's 2015 is an ace season, then isn't Stroman's 2017?

Cole 2015 ERA- was 68 in 208 innings
Stroman 2017 ERA- was 70 in 201 innings
Verlander 2016 ERA - was 71 in 227 innings (his 2017 was good, and Keuchel with two years like that)

And before you jump down the FIP train, Stroman's FIP and FIP- is remarkably similar to Verlander's.

Just find it funny. You jump onto these conversations and love to correct things you find wrong, but are still so adamant that Stroman isn't an ace, when you just qualified those three as having 'ace like' seasons within the last three years....which would then mean that Stroman has had an 'ace' like season as well.

Geesh Jeffy, you'd think with all the great Cardinal FA signings they'd be top in BP or Rotation

Originally Posted by heimdog8

I didn't want to throw this information out here. I was a 3 year varsity starter at QB in high school. I played quarterback in junior college as well. I was considering playing division 1 football as well but chose to pursue my career in business instead. However, currently I am helping train with Derek Carr from Fresno State get ready for his pro day and the draft. I am also working with Cody Kessler, the USC quarterback.