MCENTEE: Good job, Bill.
Always does a good job for this union. Let's hear it again for
him. Come on.
(LAUGHTER)
We do want to thank not just C-SPAN for covering it live, but all of
the TV folks are here, and also a very proud welcome to all of the print
media that are with us. We appreciate the fact that they are covering
this. We think it's an important step on the way to the nomination
and eventual defeat of Bush, and we just think it's very good that they're
here. I think we owe them all a round of applause for being with
us.
(APPLAUSE)
We're now going to begin I guess what you would call sort of a meat-
and-potato part of our program, maybe the most important part. Let
me begin by introducing the candidates in alphabetical order and ask that
they take their seats on the stage as they introduced.
Former Senator and Ambassador Carol Moseley Braun, Illinois.
(APPLAUSE)
Former Governor Howard Dean, Vermont.
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Senator John Edwards of North Carolina.
(APPLAUSE)
All right, John.
Representative Richard Gephardt, Missouri.
(APPLAUSE)
OK, brother. He brought his own signs.
(LAUGHTER)
Senator Bob Graham, Florida.
(APPLAUSE)
Can you find yourself? Are you lost?
Representative Dennis Kucinich, Ohio.
(APPLAUSE)
The Reverend Al Sharpton, New York.
(APPLAUSE)
We want to thank each and everyone of these candidates for coming out
here to Iowa and joining us today. Following lunch, we will meet
with Senator John Kerry via satellite. He couldn't be with us today,
a previous commitment. We will also watch a pre-recorded interview
with Senator Joseph Lieberman. He could not be with us in keeping
with the observance of his faith. We did -- and out there in TV land
-- we did invite President Bush, but he declined our invitation.
(APPLAUSE)
But we did invite him.
Today's program has four sections. We will begin with opening
remarks from the candidates. Then six of our AFSCME members will
ask questions, addressing what we see as the major concerns of our union.
This will then be followed by questions from the floor, sort of a freedom
hall, and you've got toe be ready for this, freedom hall. And then
we will have closing remarks from the candidates. We plan as best
we can on concluding at about 11:30. Candidates, as your moderator,
do you think I look like George Stephanopoulos?
(LAUGHTER)
(UNKNOWN): Better.
MCENTEE: Better, better, good.
They said, better, better.
(APPLAUSE)
Good, much better. If I just made his money I'd be all right.
Candidates, as your moderator, I will make sure we keep to the time --
you see it directly in front of you -- the time allotted, and interrupt
when necessary. We have installed those time clocks, which you can
see from your seats. We will begin with opening statements. They
will be limited to two minutes. The order has been determined by
a lottery, secret lottery, and we will begin with Governor Dean.
Governor Dean?
(APPLAUSE)

DEAN: Are you sitting down or going up there?
MCENTEE: Down.
DEAN: Well, I'm delighted to be here, and I -- one of the things that
I often get introduced at in labor meetings like this is I'm the only doctor
in America with a 100 percent COPE record.
(APPLAUSE)
But I'm particularly proud of the fact that last spring the AFL- CIO
gave me their Paul Wellstone Award for helping to organize a hospital,
the hospital that I was attending at. You know, we've lost a lot
in the last two-and-a-half years: two million jobs; we have a president
who talks tough on homeland security but is strangling the cities and the
towns and not giving them the money that's necessary to protect them; we
have a president who recommends cutting taxes, which make it impossible
to have a decent health-care program in this country. The president's
prescription for everything is take two tax cuts and see me in the morning.
(LAUGHTER)
My prescription is a little different. I want a different kind
of America. In our state everybody under 18 has health insurance,
and I want an America -- we can go out and explain to people that they
can be like everybody else -- the British and the Germans and the French
and the Italians and the Israelis and the Canadians and even the Costa
Ricans all have health insurance that can't be taken away, and we can have
that, too, in this country with a Democratic Party president.
(APPLAUSE)
I want an America where human rights are attached to trade policy so
that our jobs can't be taken away.
(APPLAUSE)
I talk to Democrats all over this country, and I find the Democrats
are almost as angry at the Democratic Party as they are at the Republican
Party. We have got to understand that the only way that we can beat
this president is to take him on directly. Don't vote for any tax
cuts of any kind. Let's explain to the American people that tax cuts
are killing our jobs and making it impossible for us to have a decent health-care
system.
(APPLAUSE)
Don't vote for unfunded mandates like No Child Left Behind, which make
is impossible to explain to the American people that those kind of unfunded
mandates are wrong. They drive up your property taxes. What we need
is full funding of mandates like special education. So stop strangling
our cities and towns. This president -- this president has passed
the largest tax cut in American history. He's given $1.7 trillion
to his corporate friends like Ken Lay, and added $10,000 worth of debt
to every child in America. We can do better than that. This president
has ruled us by making us afraid of each other and making us afraid of
others. I want an America where we're going to rule by hope again,
where we're going to have a tough country, but a country where we acknowledge
our responsibility for each other. We're going to build an America
where we're all together again, no longer divided by fear and tax cuts
for people who don't need them.
MCENTEE: Thank you very much.
(APPLAUSE)
Thank you very much, Governor Dean.
We'll now hear from Senator Graham. Keep your eye on that clock,
all right?

GRAHAM: Good morning, and thank you AFSCME for giving us this opportunity
to be with you today. I have worked with many of you over the years.
I respect what you do for Americans everyday. I also want to thank
Jerry and Bill for the great leadership that they are providing to AFSCME.
My name is Bob Graham. I'm running for president of the United States
because I believe this nation is on the fundamentally wrong track.
MCENTEE: Here, here.
(APPLAUSE)
GRAHAM: I am an optimist. I believe America's best days are still
ahead. But to realize those best days, we should start with a hard-headed
assessment of what is happening today. I'm running for president
to secure our economic future. In the last two years, we have lost jobs.
We've lost our pensions. We've lost confidence in the American economy,
and the only solution that the president offers -- more tax cuts for the
wealthiest Americans. As president, I will invest in our people.
As president, I will assure that we will not have the corporate greed which
is paying bonuses in the suites while the workers are being fired in the
basement.
(APPLAUSE)
MCENTEE: Yes.
GRAHAM: As president, I will provide health security. I will
assure that Medicare is reformed with the first reform being the provision
of a prescription-drug benefit.
(APPLAUSE)
And we won't herd all Americans in an HMO to get it. I will do
everything in my power to move us on a step-by-step basis towards full
health coverage for all Americans and with costs that they can afford.
And finally, I'm running for president because of your personal and our
national security. We all admire the valor of the troops. But
as the former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, I can tell
you what is really happening. Iraq was a distraction from the war
on terror. We are less secure, not more secure. The terrorists
have regenerated.
GRAHAM: And the president is now attempting to cover up the facts.
Just as you are being asked to be held accountable in your work, the
Oval Office should also be accountable for its.
(APPLAUSE)
MCENTEE: Can you wrap it up, Senator? Wrap it up?
(APPLAUSE)
GRAHAM: My name is Bob Graham. I'm running for president of the
United States. I would appreciate your support.
MCENTEE: Thank you, thank you.
(APPLAUSE)
Thank you very much. We'll now hear from Senator John Edwards.

EDWARDS: The president -- the president says he wants to have a debate
about values. Well, we're going to give him that debate, and we're
going to give the American people that debate. I come from a family
where my dad worked in mills all of his life. When I was young I
moved from one mill town to another, to another until I finally settled
in a little town called Robbins, North Carolina. My father worked
very hard because he believed it was the right thing to do, and he thought
it would help build a better future for his family. That's the basic
bargain that we make with the American people. If you work hard,
if you act responsibly, you can build a better life for yourself and for
your families. This is the bargain that George Bush is breaking every
single day. He comes from a completely different place. He
comes from a place where wealth is inherited, not earned. He comes
from a place where opportunity is horded, not shared. Yeah, this
is....
(APPLAUSE)
... this is going to be a debate about values, Mr. President. It's
going to be a debate about the future of America and the kind of country
we want. They, the Republicans and George Bush, they honor wealth.
We honor the work that produces wealth. That's why...
(APPLAUSE)
... that's why we should have tax cuts for working families who have
a new baby, not tax cuts to eliminate taxes on dividends. They fight
to expand special privileges fore special interests. We fight for
opportunity for everybody. That's why they fight to protect subsidies
for big banks. I want to use that money to provide college for every single
young person in America who is willing to work for it.
(APPLAUSE)
We believe in taking responsibility. They believe in shifting
the buck. They believe in passing that buck to somebody else.
That's why Congressman Boswell and I have a bill in the Senate to provide
$50 billion to communities and states all over America that desperately
need help. If it seems like they don't believe in public-sector unions,
there's a reason for it. The truth is worse than that. They
don't believe in the public sector. They are fighting every day...
(APPLAUSE)
... to dismantle it.
MCENTEE: Could you sum it up, Senator? Sum it up.
EDWARDS: We cannot play defense with George Bush. We have to
take this fight right at him. We must play offense. It is what I
have done every single day of my life. This is a fight for the working
people of America. It is a fight for our values, and it is a fight
we will win.
(APPLAUSE)
MCENTEE: Thank you. Thank you, Senator Edwards.
We will now hear from Ambassador Moseley Braun.

MOSELEY BRAUN: Twenty years ago -- thank you -- 20 years ago when I
first ran for the state legislature in Illinois, my father got a beat-up
old truck that was colored green, about the color of your tee-shirts, and
on the side of it he had a big sign that said, "Fight the greedy and help
the needy." And I was of course horrified that he was driving through
the streets of Chicago screaming "Fight the greedy, help the needy." But
here I am 20 years later and in this world, with this leadership that only
George Orwell could have given us, this crowd is into helping the greedy
and fighting the needy. They -- my father had it right. George Bush
has got it wrong. They are helping the wrong people and hurting the rest
of us. Tax cuts, no-bid contracts, a war of choice that's going to
leave us rebuilding Beirut while cities in Chicago are -- cities in America
are falling apart. This is absolutely the wrong direction.
And I submit to you that what they are doing is trying to deliver the last
blow of an extreme political agenda that wants to, quote, "star of the
beast." You've heard the term before. Republicans have used it before.
Star of the beast. What they'd say is star of the public sector,
what they mean is star of the American people. This is economy is
not working for working people, because this crowd does not appreciate,
understand or have any respect for working people. Democrats believe
that government can play a constructive role to serve the public interests,
to serve everybody. And I want to thank you in AFSCME, because not
only do you serve the public interest in what you do every day, but in
your political activism, you connect the dots for the American people,
between tax cuts for the wealthy and a stalling economy, between health
care for the few and everybody else left out, between Enron and the shrinking
pensions. I'm Carol Moseley Braun. I have the credentials to
do this job. I have the experience to do this job. I want to rebuild
America, not just physically, but also spiritually. There was an
editorial in the New York Times yesterday about crumbling schools.
I tried to rebuild crumbling schools as a senator. I want to continue to
rebuild our schools and our infrastructure to make the invest in state
and local governments to provide the services to the people that they need.
I want to change the way we fund education and provide universal health
care coverage for everybody. I see my time is up.
MCENTEE: Yes.
MOSELEY BRAUN: I should have timed my speech better, but suffice to
say that I want to bring us together as a people and restore the rights
that our parents fought to give us.
Thank you.
MCENTEE: Thank you.
(APPLAUSE)
No pun intended, but we're going to turn to our left here. We
thank Ambassador Braun and we'll now hear from Representative Dennis Kucinich.
(APPLAUSE)

KUCINICH: Thank you.
(APPLAUSE)
As president I'll lead the way to stopping privatization which has
been about carving up our government and selling it to the lowest bidder.
We'll put an end to that.
As president...
(APPLAUSE)
... as president, I'll lead the way to protecting Social Security and
stop the privatization of Social Security and bring the retirement age
back to 65. People are working their whole lives. They should
be able to retire at 65 years old, not keep moving that retirement age
back.
(APPLAUSE)
As president, I'll stop the privatization of Medicare. It is
time for a fully funded universal health care system. Medicare for
all. Take the profit out of health care. Get the insurance
companies out of health care. Return health care to the people.
As president -- as president I'll make sure that workers' rights are enshrined
in a workers' White House. Because workers have a right to organize,
a right to bargain collectively, a right to strike, a right to be able
to be compensated if you're injured on the job. Certainly a right to fair
wages and fair benefits. As president, I'll issue an executive order
which will say that anyone who gets a federal contract will have to provide
that when 50 percent of the workers sign up for a union, there's an automatic
union.
(APPLAUSE)
As president...
(APPLAUSE)
... as president, I'll set aside those provisions of Taft Hartley which
attack the right to organize. As president -- with 100 percent AFSCME
voting record, I might add -- one of my first...
(APPLAUSE)
... one of my first acts in office, recognizing how trade has devastated
so many towns around Iowa and the nation, one of my first acts in office
will be to cancel NAFTA and the WTO.
(APPLAUSE)
I ask this administration: "Tell me Mr. Bush, where are those weapons
of mass destruction?" I've seen those weapons and I'll tell you where
they are. Joblessness is a weapon of mass destruction.
(APPLAUSE)
Poverty is a weapon of mass destruction.
(APPLAUSE)
Hopelessness is a weapon of mass destruction. Let's bring back
hope in America. Let's bring back jobs in America. Let's bring
back workers' rights in America.
Thank you.
(APPLAUSE)
MCENTEE: Thank you. Thank you, Representative Kucinich.
We'll -- as soon as we get our breath, we'll hear from the Reverend
Al Sharpton.
Reverend?
(APPLAUSE)

SHARPTON: Next January, the Iowa caucus will take place on the birthday
of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was killed
35 years ago marching for garbage workers, union workers in Memphis, Tennessee.
A year later I became youth director of a division of his organization
in New York, appointed by Reverend William Jones and Reverend Jesse Jackson.
For the last 35 years, not only have I stood for workers' rights, I've
been there. I've marched on the picket lines. I've gone to
jail with labor leaders. I'm sure I'm the candidate on this platform
that's been on more picket lines and unquestionably more jail cells with
union leaders than anybody in this race.
(APPLAUSE)
Because this is not about what you say. This is about what you do.
(APPLAUSE)
This is not about making sound bites. This is about having a
life- style that protects those that make America what it is. We
have just ended the military side of a war in Iraq, where we were told
there were weapons of mass destruction. We have the victims of weapons
of mass distraction, because while they told us we were going at weapons
in Iraq, they put through tax cuts that have given us record state deficits,
and they want to balance those deficits on the back of municipal employees
all over America. We need a war against that.
(APPLAUSE)
They enjoyed the surplus economy. They deregulated business.
Now when the economy goes down, they want us to pay for a party that we
weren't invited to, that we weren't guests of, and that we never enjoyed.
(APPLAUSE)
I'm running for president to make health care a constitutional right.
Not only do we need universal health care, we need to give every American
the right to health care, the right to education, the right to vote.
We don't have those constitutional rights. And lastly, it is important
if this president can argue that we can spend millions if not billions
of dollars to take care of Iraq because we must occupy it, what about the
50 states we already occupy?
(APPLAUSE)
MCENTEE: Sum it. Sum it up, Reverend. Sum it up.
SHARPTON: Summing it up, I'm running for president against a man who
believes in privatizing Social Security, privatizing Medicaid, privatizing
education. Al Sharpton only wants to privatize one thing. I
want to privatize George Bush and make him a private citizen in 2004.
MCENTEE: Thank you very much.
(APPLAUSE)
Thank you very much, Al.
(APPLAUSE)
Thank you.
We want to thank Reverend Sharpton, and we'll now turn to Representative
Dick Gephardt.
(APPLAUSE)

GEPHARDT: Thank you, Jerry.
As many of you know, I come from a labor-union household. My
dad was a teamster and a milk-truck driver in St. Louis. Everyday
that we were with him he told us that because he was in a labor union,
we had food on the table, and we had a roof over our heard.
(APPLAUSE)
My mother was a secretary. Neither she nor my father got through high
school. My mother passed away this last week. She was a great
woman. She gave me my values, and she made me everything that I am.
And every day in the House of Representatives, I've tried to simply represent
people like my parents, the hard-working people like you, who make this
country what it is and make it great.
(APPLAUSE)
And when I'm in that Oval Office, you're going to know that unlike
this president, you will have a president that cares every day on every
issue about the hard-working people of this country, who are in labor unions,
who work hard every day to make this country go.
(APPLAUSE)
Now to beat this president, we've got to be bold, and I'm going to
be bold. I'm going to put real choices in front of the American people
on health care, on the economy, on education, on energy, on foreign policy.
And one of the main issues I'm going to bring is health care. I have
a health-care plan that gets everybody guaranteed health care that cannot
be taken away. I will bring a plan that says to every employer in
the country, "You've got to cover your employees," and I'll give them generous
tax credits to get it done. I will cover part time as well as full
time. I'll cover retirees as well as active, and I will give an equal
subsidy to every state and local government in this country, so that all
public employees are treated the same as private employees with health
care in this country.
(APPLAUSE)
If you want health care than can never be taken away from you, if you
want to make sure that you have guaranteed care where the price won't go
up and it won't be taken away, if you want health care that goes to every
public employee in this country, state and local government and the like,
if you want to give $1.5 billion from the federal government to state and
local government here in Iowa in the next three years, then I am your candidate
for president of the United States. I need your help. We're
going to beat George Bush...
MCENTEE: Thank you.
GEPHARDT: ... in November of 2004.
MCENTEE: Thank you.
(APPLAUSE)
Thank you.

Sisters and brothers, we're now going to move to the question- and-
answer portion of our program -- one of them -- beginning with questions
from six of our members, about major issues for all working families. PART
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