Crime Films - Atheist Nexus2018-05-24T19:39:21Zhttp://atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/2182797:Topic:61942?groupUrl=atheistcinema&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noTom I to am a huge fan of Jac…tag:atheistnexus.org,2010-02-21:2182797:Comment:7338502010-02-21T22:16:36.265ZGecko, Seth...brother of Richie!http://atheistnexus.org/profile/SGecko
Tom I to am a huge fan of Jackie Brown, the most underrated Tarantino film. I still think fist in show goes to Pulp Fiction, but JB is number 2!!
Tom I to am a huge fan of Jackie Brown, the most underrated Tarantino film. I still think fist in show goes to Pulp Fiction, but JB is number 2!! its a sub genre.tag:atheistnexus.org,2010-01-18:2182797:Comment:6909532010-01-18T04:30:22.559ZGecko, Seth...brother of Richie!http://atheistnexus.org/profile/SGecko
its a sub genre.
its a sub genre. Lock, stock and two smoking b…tag:atheistnexus.org,2008-12-28:2182797:Comment:1785472008-12-28T03:12:30.218Zfunctionhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/function
Lock, stock and two smoking barrels wins hands down.
Lock, stock and two smoking barrels wins hands down. Does Boondock Saints fit into…tag:atheistnexus.org,2008-08-19:2182797:Comment:860732008-08-19T17:01:27.449ZElihttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Eli
Does Boondock Saints fit into the "crime film" genre, as I'd have to add that to my list as well..
Does Boondock Saints fit into the "crime film" genre, as I'd have to add that to my list as well.. I agree overall, although I t…tag:atheistnexus.org,2008-08-15:2182797:Comment:824262008-08-15T06:35:13.502ZMartin Wagnerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/MartinWagner
I agree overall, although I think the film could have sustained all the domestic scenes it did had the female characters had depth beyond "frustrated significant other." The only bit that I thought really worked well out of all these scenes was the part near the end, where Ashley Judd gives her husband Val Kilmer that one subtle hand signal, warning him away from the trap that she's the bait for. A great moment of subtlety. Conversely, I never bought into the DeNiro/Amy Brenneman relationship…
I agree overall, although I think the film could have sustained all the domestic scenes it did had the female characters had depth beyond "frustrated significant other." The only bit that I thought really worked well out of all these scenes was the part near the end, where Ashley Judd gives her husband Val Kilmer that one subtle hand signal, warning him away from the trap that she's the bait for. A great moment of subtlety. Conversely, I never bought into the DeNiro/Amy Brenneman relationship from the outset. I dunno, I didn't really thin…tag:atheistnexus.org,2008-08-12:2182797:Comment:785892008-08-12T02:35:04.004ZMartin Wagnerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/MartinWagner
I dunno, I didn't really think those scenes offered much narrative depth beyond the obvious fact these guys were pissing off/alienating their S.O.'s. Mann could have shorn a good 35 minutes off the running time and more than adequately communicated that these men were making life-impacting bad decisions. Have a look at the 1954 French crime drama <i>Touchez pas au grisbi</i>, which runs 96 minutes, for a example of a tight movie where the focus is on the relationships between the characters,…
I dunno, I didn't really think those scenes offered much narrative depth beyond the obvious fact these guys were pissing off/alienating their S.O.'s. Mann could have shorn a good 35 minutes off the running time and more than adequately communicated that these men were making life-impacting bad decisions. Have a look at the 1954 French crime drama <i>Touchez pas au grisbi</i>, which runs 96 minutes, for a example of a tight movie where the focus is on the relationships between the characters, and the sacrifices they make based on those relationships.<br />
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But hey, I'm glad you thought <i>Heat</i> was effective. As with every movie, your mileage may vary. The wives/girlfriend scenes w…tag:atheistnexus.org,2008-08-11:2182797:Comment:782262008-08-11T20:30:24.621ZTomhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/TomHibbard
The wives/girlfriend scenes were integral to the film. They gave the characters another dimension as well as showing their understanding of other people. Ultimately the actions of all the protagonists had impacts far beyond themselves and this needed to be shown - the lives they led, and in the end lost because of what they did, good or bad. This film could have been longer if Mann wanted but it was a triumph of editing to get it to that length!
The wives/girlfriend scenes were integral to the film. They gave the characters another dimension as well as showing their understanding of other people. Ultimately the actions of all the protagonists had impacts far beyond themselves and this needed to be shown - the lives they led, and in the end lost because of what they did, good or bad. This film could have been longer if Mann wanted but it was a triumph of editing to get it to that length! You're right, forgot about Le…tag:atheistnexus.org,2008-08-10:2182797:Comment:765102008-08-10T09:43:17.546ZMartin Wagnerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/MartinWagner
You're right, forgot about <i>Le Samourai</i>. And <i>The Long Good Friday</i> is great for early Bob Hoskins. <i>Le Cercle Rouge</i> is pretty badass and <i>Rififi</i> has probably the greatest heist scene in all cinema.
You're right, forgot about <i>Le Samourai</i>. And <i>The Long Good Friday</i> is great for early Bob Hoskins. <i>Le Cercle Rouge</i> is pretty badass and <i>Rififi</i> has probably the greatest heist scene in all cinema. Where crime films are concern…tag:atheistnexus.org,2008-08-10:2182797:Comment:761992008-08-10T04:13:17.299ZMartin Wagnerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/MartinWagner
Where crime films are concerned I tend to be more of a fan of the old noir classics. Bogart, Cagney, all those guys. For me crime movies were perfected by <i>The Maltese Falcon</i>.<br />
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Personally I thought <i>Heat</i> had its moments, but was hamstrung by its three hour length, which could have been made more manageable had all the scenes devoted to the male protagonists' problems with their wives/girlfriends been sliced. Those scenes are also a problem in that literally every single one of the…
Where crime films are concerned I tend to be more of a fan of the old noir classics. Bogart, Cagney, all those guys. For me crime movies were perfected by <i>The Maltese Falcon</i>.<br />
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Personally I thought <i>Heat</i> had its moments, but was hamstrung by its three hour length, which could have been made more manageable had all the scenes devoted to the male protagonists' problems with their wives/girlfriends been sliced. Those scenes are also a problem in that literally every single one of the movie's roles for women depicts them as having nothing going on in their lives but constantly fretting over/being pissed off at their men. I won't say the movie is sexist, but its treatment of women is so condescending it might as well have had none of them in it, as all their scenes drag the pacing to a complete halt. I'd say they fit, its definit…tag:atheistnexus.org,2008-07-29:2182797:Comment:620202008-07-29T19:51:23.294ZTomhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/TomHibbard
I'd say they fit, its definitely crime plus the family thing adds a new dynamic to the stories. Goodfellas is probably my favourite mob film, great storytelling and style.<br />
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Reservoir dogs - great film but Jackie Brown is the best Tarantino film in my opinion.
I'd say they fit, its definitely crime plus the family thing adds a new dynamic to the stories. Goodfellas is probably my favourite mob film, great storytelling and style.<br />
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Reservoir dogs - great film but Jackie Brown is the best Tarantino film in my opinion.