That is correct Harald. Manek set up a new website at the end of 2010 and had newer versions of Ice 2 Lite and Metalleaser 2 Lite available for download. That enabled me to grab them again as my old ones had timed out. But sometime last year the new site also stopped operating and I've since found out that the new files I downloaded in Dec 2010 will no longer install the filters. Message says the setup has expired so seems it was only good for approx 1 year.