The Official Doctor Who Thread
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I'd absolutely love that - unfortunately I think Doctor Who is firmly aimed at the younger audience, and they'd complain loudly and bitterly if it changed too much. I'll just be happy if they resist the temptation to make the Doctor a good-looking teenager...

I dont think torchwood was ever going to rise above 'dr who with bumming' and when it tried, it was fucking terrible. In fact, I was kind of glad the last mini series was so bad because it finally put the whole idea out of its misery.

Yeah, its true, but there has been other stuff over the years and its all been pretty low key. I think having no budget causes us to get really creative but having some budget causes us to try and make it look like we have lots of budget and fail.

nickthegun wrote:
There is but it has to be very low key to the point that no one watches it.

We can do stuff like misfits, being human, in the flesh and ultraviolet but as soon as we get remotely ambitious it all turns to shit.

This is true - the only exception being Sapphire & Steel; to me that worked (and still works) extremely well. Well written, inventive, thought-provoking, well made stories, with only the first one being aimed (originally) at the wee kiddies.

And all done on a budget that wouldn't pay for the visual f/x on just one episode of 'New Who'.

Oh, there was that show on a while ago with Apollo off BSG. The one where we were repopulating a planet. That had money but ended up aping the worst, most boring traits of modern american sci-fi: the family potboiler.

So, yeah, I think we could do a pitch black mini-series with John Hurt showing why The Doctor is the most dangerous man in the universe rather than a lucky gimp who relies on the stupidity of his enemies.

The trouble is, British studios, and to a lesser extent, American studios as well are just too afraid to take risks when it comes to new shows anymore. Anything that doesn't neatly fit an already tried and tested formula gets thrown to the bottom of the pile because the executives don't know what the shows demographic will be... Which is their biggest concern now a days as it ties into where the profit will ultimately come from.

When Amazon/YouTube/Netflx et al. announced they would start making their own shows their was a glimmer of hope that some more original ideas might surface, but so far they have all stuck to the familiar as well.

@M83J01P97 but at least in America if something is popular they throw enough money at it to make it work. Doctor who has been damaged by budget cuts, the lack of episodes this forces is probably a large part of why episodes have to force too much plot in rather than take risks

RobTheBuilder wrote:
@M83J01P97 but at least in America if something is popular they throw enough money at it to make it work. Doctor who has been damaged by budget cuts, the lack of episodes this forces is probably a large part of why episodes have to force too much plot in rather than take risks

Exactly.

Doctor who is a cash cow for the BBC, so why they constantly decide to fuck around with it's budget and production is beyond me.

They just need to go back to 13 episode series starting every Easter with a Christmas special and leave it at that.

They cast the new Doctor in January, and it's not going to be a woman.

Or Idris Fucking Elba for that matter, who gets mentioned every time, it's so boring. He's never going to be Bond either, but just you watch who all the papers drone on about next time Daniel Craig threatens/makes good on his regular threat to quit Bond.

M83J01P97 wrote:
Looks like we won't be waiting long to find out who the next Doctor is, lots of people on Twitter revealing that they've been involved in a massive auditioning process for the past few weeks, which suggests they aren't going with an established actor again.

Personally I don't think that's true. I suspect they long since cast the next Doc.