At 12/4/2009 8:44:25 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:If you guys knew anything about exopolitics, you wouldn't even mention a terran country.

Not this again...

Actually, it's a serious matter. I remember when I first learned about the sociological and governmental structures of other-wordly civilizations, I was blown away at these new ideas and concepts most have never heard of.

At 12/4/2009 9:17:07 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:Actually, it's a serious matter. I remember when I first learned about the sociological and governmental structures of other-wordly civilizations, I was blown away at these new ideas and concepts most have never heard of.

I remember when I first learned about Santa Claus, I was blown away that a bunch of elves in the North Pole can make presents for all the children in the world and that Santa could deliver them in one night with his flying reindeer. But then I grew up. =]

At 12/4/2009 9:17:07 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:Actually, it's a serious matter. I remember when I first learned about the sociological and governmental structures of other-wordly civilizations, I was blown away at these new ideas and concepts most have never heard of.

I remember when I first learned about Santa Claus, I was blown away that a bunch of elves in the North Pole can make presents for all the children in the world and that Santa could deliver them in one night with his flying reindeer.

That is not a revolutionary new idea or concept. Whether these civilizations are hypothetical or real, is besides the point in this case.

The only human right is that to property. Which seems to be taken in pretty high regard around there:

"Law and, consequently crime, are defined in terms of property rights. The law is compensatory rather than punitive. Because property rights requires compensation, rather than punishment, there is no imprisonment, and fines are rare. Such fines as might be imposed seldom exceed the amount of compensation and are not payable to any court or government, but directly to the victim." - Wikipedia[1]

States are constantly being foisted upon the people of Somalia, but recently none have worked out. I see little reason for this to change in the near future, as many Somalis are extremely skeptical of central authority.

At 12/5/2009 7:50:48 AM, Reasoning wrote:The only human right is that to property. Which seems to be taken in pretty high regard around there:

"Law and, consequently crime, are defined in terms of property rights. The law is compensatory rather than punitive. Because property rights requires compensation, rather than punishment, there is no imprisonment, and fines are rare. Such fines as might be imposed seldom exceed the amount of compensation and are not payable to any court or government, but directly to the victim." - Wikipedia[1]

Uhh, are you sane? If the only recognized human right in Somalia is that of property, then there is some serious problems. Once you get kidnapped, raped, murdered, and get everything else taken away - tell me how much you value your property. Err, I doubt anyone recognizes your property rights anyway.

States are constantly being foisted upon the people of Somalia, but recently none have worked out. I see little reason for this to change in the near future, as many Somalis are extremely skeptical of central authority.

Ok. What's your point? There is constantly war and violence, what does that say to you?

As there is no state, I find it hard to believe that it is totalitarian.