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Sin City (CA - BD)

Chris Gould also takes a look at the BD release of another Rodriguez feature...

My recent purchase of From Dusk Till Dawn was accompanied by the Blu-ray purchase of Robert Rodriguez and Frank Miller’s gritty Sin City, a film I really enjoyed at the cinema and in its various DVD incarnations. However, as with Dusk, I read a number of disturbing comments about the quality of the disc's video transfer. I had wanted to see the film in HD for some time, so decided to go ahead with the purchase on the basis that it wasn’t terribly expensive and I could always sell it on if I was unhappy. With the disc in my hands I decided to put this little review together to offer some of my thoughts, specifically about the video quality.

Feature

Robert Rodriquez and Frank Miller's Sin City is a neo-noir anthology that tells several intertwining tales against the backdrop of the permanently dark, super-corrupt Basin City. The first of these, entitled 'The Hard Goodbye', is the story of Marv, a giant bar-room brawler who wakes up next to a dead hooker named Goldie, the only woman to ever have shown him any kindness. Marv quickly realises he's been framed for murder, so he works the streets, beating information out of various lowlifes in an attempt to uncover the identity of the real killer. Along the way he encounters a silent, cannibalistic assassin and corruption at the very highest levels of the police force and the clergy, not to mention a spectre from his past.

'The Big Fat Kill' introduces us to Dwight, a murderer with a a new face who is dating barmaid Shelly. When Shelly's abusive ex-boyfriend Jackie Boy shows up and smacks her around, Dwight 'shows him the door' and then follows him and his crew to Old Town, an area of Basin City run by the prostitutes. When Jackie Boy and his friends step out of line they meet their end at the hand of deadly little Miho, enforcer for the girls of Old Town and lieutenant to Dwight's ex-lover, Gail. When they discover that Jackie Boy was in fact hero cop 'Iron Jack' Rafferty, Dwight helps the girls to dispose of the body in order to prevent the shaky truce between the prostitutes and the cops from disintegrating, allowing the mob to move in. Unfortunately for everyone concerned, there's a rat in Old Town...

In 'That Yellow Bastard' we catch up with Detective John Hartigan as he attempts to rescue a young girl called Nancy Callahan from the clutches of a sadistic paedophile, who just happens to be the son of a US senator. Although he successfully rescues Nancy and critically injures 'Junior' he is betrayed and shot in the back by his partner Bob, who is protecting the senator's interests. Hartigan is wrongly convicted of raping Nancy and killing several other girls and spends eight years in prison, where his only comfort comes in the form of letters secretly written to him by Nancy under the pseudonym Cordelia. When the letters abruptly stop he agrees to confess to the crimes in exchange for early parole, but soon comes to realise that his release is part of an elaborate trap set by a hideously disfigured Junior, who is seeking revenge against both Hartigan and Nancy.

Video

Alliance Atlantis present Sin City at 1.78:1 by way of an AVC-encoded 1080p/24 transfer. Detail levels are excellent; you can literally pick out every blemish on the actors' faces, every hair on their heads, and every stitch in their clothing. The brilliant whites stand out against the inky blacks, which are deep without losing shadow detail. Contrast is obviously of great importance in a film of this nature, and I'm happy to report that it's spot on. The use of colour is also incredibly effective, even more so on Blu-ray than it was on DVD. The reproduction is simply fantastic; the reds have never looked so vibrant, Goldie's hair as never looked so inviting and That Yellow Bastard has never looked yellower (or more of a bastard).

Now to the caveat mentioned at the beginning of the review. Before buying this disc I read a number of posts on various forums that complained about the image quality. This almost deterred me from getting the disc, but the cheap price coupled with my desire to see the film in HD eventually swayed me. Most of the negative comments related to blocking artefacts, with various people posting links to images that highlighted the issues. Personally I could not see the blocking under normal viewing conditions (sat around ten feet from my 42" LCD HDTV). The problem eluded me even after I went in for a closer look, so I resorted to turning the brightness up way past normal levels and I was finally able to see the artefact.

Now I don't know if the people who first raised this issue have significantly more sensitive equipment than me, but I'm fairly confident that my TV's black levels are calibrated reasonably well (I even double checked after this). Maybe the blocking is more evident on different types of display, such as plasma TVs or maybe even projection systems, the latter of which are usually used in conjunction with huge screens. Either way, I couldn't see it unless I really went looking for it. However, while I was closely scrutinising the screen looking for blocking, I did notice that patches of the background seemed to me moving in a very strange manner. One example of this was during 'The Hard Goodbye', when Marv wakes up in the farmhouse to find Lucille and the tiles on the walls appear to be moving, only ever so slightly, but moving nonetheless. I also noticed a similar phenomenon on the fabric of Senator Roark's jacket during his hospital visit with Hartigan in 'That Yellow Bastard'. It was very subtle and almost went without detection, but it's not present on the DVD version. I also noticed posterisation on a couple of occasions, but I seem to remember that from the DVD so it could be inherent to the source.

From what I understand, Sin City is due out in the UK and US at some time in the next year. Hopefully that release will arrive on a BD50 disc, which will allow for a higher bitrate encode that should remedy some or all of the video issues. In the meantime, I have a bit of a dilemma on my hands: do I acknowledge all of the faults, even though they didn't really affect my enjoyment, or do I go with a higher score? To be honest I would hope that people would read the entire review before making a decision, rather than by glancing at a number, but experience has taught me that this isn't always the case. It is for this reason that I have opted to go with a lower score, as I think the moving backgrounds alone constitute a big enough flaw to eliminate the possibility of awarding top honours (even though the blocking is't apparent on my display, it will surely infuriate those who can see it). I'll say one thing though: if future releases manage to improve upon this disc's shaky areas, they'll look truly spectacular.

Audio

The case incorrectly states a DTS 5.1 soundtrack, when in fact the disc offers full DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1. I haven't watched Sin City for a while and I had forgotten just how dialogue-driven it is, but thankfully this element of the track is handled superbly. Voices come through loud and clear, even during the busiest moments, with Marv's gravelly tones serving as a particular highlight.

The rest of the track is also great, but not quite as impressive as a number of the recent standard-setters I've had the pleasure of listening to. The subtle things are handled well, with the gentle patter of rainfall hitting the streets creating just the right atmosphere. At times you really do feel like you're in a rain-soaked alley with police helicopters flying overhead and distant sirens wailing somewhere in the darkness. There are a number of action sequences that give the track a chance to flex its audio muscles, most of which occur during 'The Big Fat Kill'. Miho slicing and dicing, the escape from the tar pits and the final shoot-out in the alley all spring to mind. During these livelier moments the surrounds are given a plenty to do, with excellent placement of effects such as ricocheting bullets. Bass packs a decent punch without becoming overpowering, whether it be the deep rumble of the seemingly omnipresent thunder, the gunshots or one of the film's various explosions.

Rodriguez's gritty, sleazy score is a constant presence, expertly underpinning the action with it's bluesy, saxophone-heavy cues. It's placed at just the right level in the mix, never overpowering the other elements, but never getting lost amongst the carnage in the more active scenes. Although it's not as engaging as Casino Royale or as aggressive as The Incredible Hulk, this is still a fine effort.

Extras

As with From Dusk Till Dawn, Sin City has no extras to speak of. It's a bit of a pity really, as it would have been cool to watch the extended individual cuts. If you're looking for extras you'll probably want to wait for a more complete package to be released in the future.

Overall

Sin City is not a film for everyone. Many of the criticisms levelled at it - that it’s a one-note, violent, misogynistic exercise in style over substance - are actually pretty fair, but if you’re a fan of comic books and graphic novels it’s hard not to like the film. Never before have I seen source material so accurately recreated on the big screen, which for my money elevates it above many of lesser comic book movies of recent years.

So, do you buy this release or not? Well, if you're a total videophile I would suggest you hold out for the eventual release of the US or UK discs, which will hopefully remedy the video issues. However, if you're an 'average' viewer with a modest-sized HDTV and a hankering to see Carla Gugino's gorgeous figure in high-definition, the relatively low cost of this disc makes it an attractive stop-gap until something better comes along (whenever that may be). At the risk of destroying what little credibility I have as a reviewer, I still think it looks very good indeed; much better than the upscaled DVD. When you couple this with the impressive audio, I think you have a disc that's at least worth checking out if you're a big fan of the film.

* Note: The above images are taken from the Blu-ray release and resized for the page. Full-resolution captures are available by clicking individual images, but due to .jpg compression they are not necessarily representative of the quality of the transfer.

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delarge79 wrote: Hey Fake Shemp, which delivery option would you suggest for dvd-plus.com? I don't want to spend an arm and a leg, but I don't want to choose an option that takes as long as Amazon.com's expedited shipping option.....I think I've been waiting close to a month now.

Yeesh...for Oz, I'm not really sure what to suggest; I paid for Canada Post, which had an estimated delivery of 5-14 days, and the cost for shipping the two DVD's was around $8 CAD. I was pleasantly surprised when they arrived just 4 days later, and they were shipped all the way to me in Florida. If I'm not mistaken they shipped the same day I placed the order, which I placed over the phone. I would actually call them when you place your order to get suggested delivery rates. The gentleman I spoke with was Dave Hall, contact at 905-607-6177 or service@dvd-plus.com. He was most helpful in his suggestions, and I think their shipping rates are almost definitely lower than Amazon.ca. Just remember if you plan on calling ahead they're in Ontario, which should place them about 14 hours behind your local time.

Hey Fake Shemp, which delivery option would you suggest for dvd-plus.com? I don't want to spend an arm and a leg, but I don't want to choose an option that takes as long as Amazon.com's expedited shipping option.....I think I've been waiting close to a month now.

tenebre wrote: where did you get this BD from? which seller? with exploited gone I dont know a good source for imports

I pre-ordered "From Dusk Till Dawn" and "Sin City" off Amazon.ca only to get a message that Tuesday saying "From Dusk Till Dawn" was temporarily out of stock. I then just did a google search to find a Canadian DVD exporter and ran across dvd-plus.com. I actually called them to make sure they had FDTD in stock and the guy that answered the phone was nice enough to tell me about the "Nightmare on Elm Street" Alliance disc that was coming out as well. I wish I'd ordered all three BDs from dvd-plus in the first place as their shipping for all three discs was lower than the shipping for the one disc from Amazon.

When you say "exploited" is gone, are you referring to "xploitedcinema.com"? Because if so, they most certainly are still up and running; I just ordered a bunch of stuff from them a few weeks ago...

hahaha. i love this site. i also have quite the dvd collection, and i doubt your collection is worth anywhere near what i make in a month. but do continue to think the most important thing in life is how someone pronounces a movies various titles...theres nothing cooler than "that guy"

"Single? Female? Want to come home with me so I can put you in my well? You'll be provided with an assortment of lotions, among other things..." case and point :-)

takashistorm wrote: Fake Shemp wrote: I can see where some people might be a bit irritated with the French on the packaging, but I could care less. I've been importing movies long enough to care less about the packaging and more about the content. Case in point: I just had the German Blu-ray release of "Leon" (or "The Professional", although I don't see any reason to call Besson's international cut by anything but his intended release title) arrive the other day. Now so far as packaging, it's a wet dream for collectors, being in a Steelbook packaging, but the title on the case is "Leon der Profi". Now I could easily throw a fit, but I'm more concerned with being able to see the international cut of the film in high-def with DTS-HDMA without having to wait for it to be released in the US. I bought an LG BH200 hybrid BD/HD-DVD player a little while back, one of the best players I've ever bought. Plays all formats and has hack codes to play BDs from any region, not just Zone A where I bought it. I don't mind importing movies rather than waiting years for the studios in the US to release them, case in point being the Alliance releases of "From Dusk Till Dawn", "Sin City" and "A Nightmare on Elm Street". Enough has been said about the lack of extras on all three, but I've enough extras on the previous releases.

Dude, get a life or a girlfriend. Doesn't matter which.

What would make you assume I don't have a life? Because I own a DVD collection worth more than you make in two or three years? I might suggest you do the same, tahashi-douche. Takes a true troll to come to a DVD review forum and tell someone to get a life because they talk about the topic at hand. Speaking of hands, I'll let you get back to yours, which I'm positive double as your "girlfriend".

Fake Shemp wrote: I can see where some people might be a bit irritated with the French on the packaging, but I could care less. I've been importing movies long enough to care less about the packaging and more about the content. Case in point: I just had the German Blu-ray release of "Leon" (or "The Professional", although I don't see any reason to call Besson's international cut by anything but his intended release title) arrive the other day. Now so far as packaging, it's a wet dream for collectors, being in a Steelbook packaging, but the title on the case is "Leon der Profi". Now I could easily throw a fit, but I'm more concerned with being able to see the international cut of the film in high-def with DTS-HDMA without having to wait for it to be released in the US. I bought an LG BH200 hybrid BD/HD-DVD player a little while back, one of the best players I've ever bought. Plays all formats and has hack codes to play BDs from any region, not just Zone A where I bought it. I don't mind importing movies rather than waiting years for the studios in the US to release them, case in point being the Alliance releases of "From Dusk Till Dawn", "Sin City" and "A Nightmare on Elm Street". Enough has been said about the lack of extras on all three, but I've enough extras on the previous releases.

Nice review Chris. Good to see I'm not the only one who thought the audio was good but not great. I've got a 43" plasma and the artifacting is not visible on there. Although once again it is properly calibrated so that could be an issue. Now, if you want aggressive bass, try out Hellboy 2 and also Kung Fu Panda. Received both today and they are awesome! Hellboy is in 7.1 DTS HD and nearly put my sub through the floor!!!

I can see where some people might be a bit irritated with the French on the packaging, but I could care less. I've been importing movies long enough to care less about the packaging and more about the content. Case in point: I just had the German Blu-ray release of "Leon" (or "The Professional", although I don't see any reason to call Besson's international cut by anything but his intended release title) arrive the other day. Now so far as packaging, it's a wet dream for collectors, being in a Steelbook packaging, but the title on the case is "Leon der Profi". Now I could easily throw a fit, but I'm more concerned with being able to see the international cut of the film in high-def with DTS-HDMA without having to wait for it to be released in the US. I bought an LG BH200 hybrid BD/HD-DVD player a little while back, one of the best players I've ever bought. Plays all formats and has hack codes to play BDs from any region, not just Zone A where I bought it. I don't mind importing movies rather than waiting years for the studios in the US to release them, case in point being the Alliance releases of "From Dusk Till Dawn", "Sin City" and "A Nightmare on Elm Street". Enough has been said about the lack of extras on all three, but I've enough extras on the previous releases.

No extras and french all over the packaging, Canadian DVD releases suck! I remember ordering the U.S. version of the 2-disc DVD because the DTS track was removed from the Canadian version and replaced by a french track, lame.