For Some Reason This Calms Me Down For A Second......

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The only people that could possibly 'think' that BO is a 'moderate', let alone a 'moderate Republican', are those so far to the left they think anyone to the right of Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Hitler, or Lenin is a 'far-right winger'.

Thank you for identifying yourself as not the 'moderate' you claimed to be.

Well, Free0352 rightfully points out that half the population lives in those tiny blue areas.Now then, anyone who buys the "one man, one vote" argument for either or both the states and Federal Senates, or agrees that the elimination of the Electoral Colledge is a good idea needs to think again, long and hard.Remember that the country was founded as a FEDERAL Republic.

Lets look at Obama's record. Obamacare: Based upon a plan initially implemented by moderate Mitt, and conceived of by Republicans and the right wing think tank Heritage Foundation in the early '90s. Economy: Stimulus was 40% tax cuts, and fairly similar in nature to the W. Bush stimulus.Bailouts: Initiated by W. Foreign Policy: Aggressive attacks on Al Qaeda leadership, took down Qadaffi with NATO, sanctions that are bringing Iran down to their knees. Also pivoted to Asia, much like Nixon. Mimicked W.'s surge in Afghanistan. Entitlements: If you believe Republicans, he cut Medicare by 716B. Spending: Obama offered a $4-trillion debt reduction framework that would have cut $3 to $6 of spending for every $1 in tax hikes.

Free, you are actually intellectually honest (to a fault in my opinion) at least more so than the average Republican. However it seems quite inconsistent that Republicans would nominate someone for the presidency that could not articulate any meaningful difference in foreign policy, and had enacted policies that "99 percent of republicans hated". Furthermore 50M people, a vast majority of Republicans actually voted for the architect of Obamacare. Also the decimation of Al Qaeda's leadership using means that certainly violate the soverleignty of Pakistan shouldn't be ignored and does represent the actions of an acceptable foreign policy.

I still stick to my original point. Obama is actually a moderate Republican by historical standards.

There is no such thing as a moderate Republican.You can however see a stuffed one in the Museum of natural history next to the dodo and Steller's sea cow.They are preparing an entire wing for Fox news and the remains what was once the GOP.

Obama won a whopping 332 electoral votes and the popular vote, he won by a landslide! A landslide, which is what the reporters on Bullshit Fox News mountain said Romney would do! What a joke! Mike Papantonio said months ago that the media was just telling people it would be close because Obama was sooo far ahead that people stopped paying attention.

Isn't it pretty illustrative that my arguments rely on actual facts and policies, while the counter arguments are purely that of rhetoric?

Because 'moderate Republican' policies include giving tons of money to Union backers, dumping thousands of regulations on businesses, stopping harvesting of our own natural resources but allowing foreign countries to take them, badmouthing the successful while coddling mooches, ignoring high unemployment rates (in fact, 'focusing like a laser' on everything BUT unemployment), bowing to and confessing to the desire for 'flexibility' with foreign leaders, and campaigning while ambassadors are murdered?

Those sound like policies from FDR or Carter, but not from any Republican.

On which planet are those policies illustrative of Republican policy, moderate or otherwise? Other than rhetorically, of course?

what facts Roboto? 'badmouthing the successful while coddling mooches'? Are you talking about Mitt and his thugs being successful by shutting down companies like Sensata? A company that Mitt could have saved? and saved hundreds of jobs instead of giving them the boot right before Christmas? A company making record profits, but not enough for greedy Mitt....and bowing to foreign leaders is another HUGE lie by FOX and Rush, Obama has never done this. Campaigning while ambassadors are murdered can't be as bad as having tons of intelligence prior to 9/11 and doing NOTHING, and allowing thousands to die because of it! Bush did nothing but ride his bike around DC and head back to the ranch every other week...

I would like to ask everyone on this blog that voted for Romney what they expected him to do for them if he won? What exactly would he do for you? Would you benefit somehow by the breakup of unions? Would the de-regulation of everything benefit you? Obamacare being overturned and the kid with leukemia being thrown out of hospital would benefit you? No more investing in education or teachers would be good for you? Since I'm assuming none of you have prize race horses or elevators for your cars, just what would someone like Mitt Romney do for Roboto or Crabby ole man??? Because we already know that tax increases to the wealthy do not hurt the "job creators" who create no jobs, except in China, and we know that tax breaks for the middle class STIMULATE the economy because people like you go out and spend at Walmart and you buy beer....so can someone answer my question???

'tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool, then to type and remove all doubt.

Campaigning while ambassadors are murdered can't be as bad as having tons of intelligence prior to 9/11 and doing NOTHING, and allowing thousands to die because of it!

It wouldn't be, but there WAS NO 'tons' of evidence' prior to 9/11. There was ONE Intel memo: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/white-house-releases-pre-911-intel-memo. WOW, with all that info, ANYONE could have told that there would be hijacked airplanes used as missles on September 11, 2001. (that was sarcasm, son.)

Surely YOU can use the Internet for research as well as I can, right? Isn't that why Algore invented it?

Leave me (and my money) the hell alone. Stop driving this country 'forward' off the fiscal cliff. Not take away my 2nd amendment rights. Use the knowledge and experience that he has (and Pres. Lepeu DOESN'T have) to get this country prosperous again. Not decide that I should have something, and force me (under pain of enormous fines or imprisonment) to purchase it. Represent my country to foreign leaders, and not bow to them or apologize for the country that he was selected to lead.

Because we already know that tax increases to the wealthy do not hurt the "job creators"...

'We' 'know'? Which 'we'? You and your imaginary friend?

Tax increases are a penalty on whatever they are taxing. If you tax success, you get less of it. How about you and your ilk start taxing poverty for once, instead of rewarding it by paying for it?

...we know that tax breaks for the middle class STIMULATE the economy

You stumbled into the truth. (don't worry, I won't tell your comrades at HuffingPaint or Daily Kook). Tax cuts (for anyone) stimulate the economy because:1. they reward people for working (and when you reward an activity, you get more of it)and2. People have more money to do with what they want.

I should be getting paid for the education that you are getting (that your professors obviously didn't provide).

When did Obama give money to union backers? Are you referring to the auto bailout that saved probably 2m jobs?

Yes, I am referring to the auto bailout. It saved NOTHING that bankruptcy wouldn't save, but it DID wrest control of the companies from those who had 'skin in the game', the investors, and gave it to those who only show up for their 8-hour shift.

Flexibility with Foreign leaders sounds like something a president Should have given that they are responsible for foreign policy.

Not when that flexibility can only occur after the voters no longer have a say in it. That's referred to not as 'flexibility', but as tyranny.

Robots, you aren't very bright are you? Bush lost all our respect, the entire world despised us, he didn't keep us safe and it took Obama to catch Bin Laden. To repeat Nate...28 Al Qaeda leaders dead...how many under Bush? I know you think someday, you too may have an elevator for your cars, so you want hogs like Limbaugh and Romney to get tax breaks, just in case....

Roboto..."gave it to those who show up for their 8 hour shift". Gave what? A paycheck? To these lazy no good workers? You mean jobs? Isn't that what you people cry about daily? Jobs? And don't worry, Mitt made a fortune off the bailout. I did stumble on the truth, tax cuts for the MIDDLE CLASS stimulate the economy, not tax cuts for Mitt Romney and Rush, although, the amount of money he spends on OXYcoton might help...

And..."not decide that I should have something and force me (under enormous fines or imprisonment) to purchase it?So you don't have car insurance?

"If you tax success you get less of it". Hmmm let's see, which genius came up with this one?! Rove? No, Limbaugh...or maybe Hannity? I give up! was it Man Coulter?

They despised that he wasn't the pushover that democrats since carter traditionally are.

he didn't keep us safe

To quote Nate, the bad guys got one 'lucky shot'. How about since then? How many ambassadors killed on Bush's watch (on the anniversary of 9/11, to boot)?

and it took Obama to catch Bin Laden.Once more, Nate's quote 'lucky shot'. It didn't 'take 0bama to catch bin Laden', he happened to be President WHEN bin Laden was finally found. Being in the right place at the right time is NOT a talent, it is a stroke of luck. Especially since, according to reports, he wasn't even the 'Won' to make the call.

I know you think someday, you too may have an elevator for your cars, so you want hogs like Limbaugh and Romney to get tax breaks, just in case....

Surprisingly(sarcasm), you're wrong. Again. I want people (Americans) to have employment. Jobs. I want PEOPLE like Limbaugh and Romney to get tax breaks for several reasons:1. It's their money. Not yours. If you want to throw YOUR money down the governmental rabbit hole, fine. Don't force them to throw theirs down as well.2. Isn't 67.9% of the taxes that the top 20% pay enough? When does it become their 'fair share' to you? (It's already FAR MORE than their fair share.)3. And most importantly, as I said, I want Americans to be able to get employment. Who do you think provides those jobs? Poor people? The more money potential employers keep out of government's talons, the more people that they can employ. Witness the 60's, the 80's, and the 00's (before Madame Pelosi and Dingy Harry took over Congress). As a counter indication, witness the 30's and 40's, where the wealthy were taxed heavily, and a severe recession was turned into the Great Depression. (Thank you, FDR!)

Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. - George Santayana

Roboto..."gave it to those who show up for their 8 hour shift". Gave what? A paycheck?

Pay attention, son. The 'it' to which I was referring was equity in the company. I figured it was clear from the context that I was speaking of that. I forgot to factor for willful stupidity. My bad.

I did stumble on[sic] the truth

It was bound to happen eventually.

tax cuts for the MIDDLE CLASS stimulate the economy

True. You DID find some truth.

not tax cuts for Mitt Romney and Rush

so much for stumbling on[to] the truth. If the middle class get a tax cut, they might spend it, or they might save it. Upperclass tax cuts add the possibility of invest it in new factories, machinery, or employees. (How's that unemployment number doing lately? Ever wonder why?)

although, the amount of money he spends on OXYcoton might help...

Not as much as lawyer fees from 0bama, to keep his past life hidden, or from Clinton (or anyone with the last name Kennedy), to battle off rape charges.

And..."not decide that I should have something and force me (under enormous fines or imprisonment) to purchase it?So you don't have car insurance?

Yes. I do. But if I didn't, there is NO provision that I be fined or imprisoned. The only penalty would be that I not be allowed to operate a motor vehicle on state or federal highways. Genius.

"If you tax success you get less of it". Hmmm let's see, which genius came up with this one?! Rove? No, Limbaugh...or maybe Hannity? I give up! was it Man Coulter?

Roboto, I guess I have many "imaginary friends" and they are all minorities and women who didnt vote for a white billionaire. 99% of what you replied is totally asinine. What a coincidence that Obama happened to be president when Osama was found...could that be because he was actually looking for him, unlike osamas pal, Bush? Romney also said he wouldn't go to the ends of the earth to catch terrorists.

No one is denying the fat hogs their their wealth, just that they pay their taxes, like you and I do. Trickle down doesn't work, remember, we already tried that under all the losers you voted for. Obama has created more jobs than Bush did in 8 years. Romney pays 10%, if that in taxes, if that.

If you wanted Americans to have jobs then you would have voted for the guy that saved the American Auto Industry, instead you voted for the person that "loves to fire people" and also loves shipping jobs to China.

The middle and lower class have to spend their tax cut to survive, you idiot, they don't have Swiss bank accounts. So, under Clinton, when the top paid their taxes we had a recession? Upperclass tax cuts add jobs and factories in the US? WRONG! Again, look at Romney.

No one has more lawyers to battle off charges than the Bush-Cheney crime families. How many coke/DUI charges for the cheerleader? Those two can't even travel because the rest of the world knows they should be behind bars for war crimes. I wonder what kind of shape robot would be in if he watched 2 brothers get assassinated? Say what you want about Obama, Clinton and the Kennedy's but they will always fight for people like you, you're just too ignorant to know it.

I watched a PBS special last night on the hogs that live on Park Avenue. #1 Hog, David Koch, has the doormen load his tons of luggage for his weekend trip to the Hamptons. Like most of the wealthy, he does not tip and never says thank-you. He gives a $50.00 Christmas tip, wow. So, please stop lecturing about the wealthy passing their money down, it's a lie. I was a waiter in college and doctors were always the worst tippers. Hogs like Koch hold on to every last dime, they are truly the lazy and entitled in this country and they count on robots like you to defend them.