So, my friends...germany is hunting England for that second spot in the UEFA coefficient table. Right now we are 2.6 points behind you, and next season the results of 2009 will be scratched, which will close the gap even further to a mere 0.3 points. We might even get you this season. What do you guys think...is the german Bundesliga really on par with the premiere League?

So, my friends...germany is hunting England for that second spot in the UEFA coefficient table. Right now we are 2.6 points behind you, and next season the results of 2009 will be scratched, which will close the gap even further to a mere 0.3 points. We might even get you this season. What do you guys think...is the german Bundesliga really on par with the premiere League?

Are you the German JJ or something?

Every other league in the world is no where near to EPL

What Arsenal fans think about RVP moving to UTD:

Originally Posted by akbar

There is a difference between playing shit and being shit. You said I think RVP is shit, where I'm saying he'll play shit... His ability will still be there but it just won't have a bug effect on UTD.

Ok, care to elaborate why? is it the arab investors that make it so special? The only team that really constantly stands out and delivers on a big level is ManU. Mancity and Chelsea are just big because of their investors, and as you could see in the CL, money cant buy success. Also i think the Bundesliga and the Primera division are way ahead of the EPL when it comes to the atmosphere in the stadiums.

So, my friends...germany is hunting England for that second spot in the UEFA coefficient table. Right now we are 2.6 points behind you, and next season the results of 2009 will be scratched, which will close the gap even further to a mere 0.3 points. We might even get you this season. What do you guys think...is the german Bundesliga really on par with the premiere League?

I don't think co-efficient rankings really reflect on how good a league is otherwise Bundesliga would be above La Liga.

Were Chelsea really the best team in Europe last year? Or did they just know how to organise themselves in a couple of knock out games, while riding a bit of luck?

I don't think co-efficient rankings really reflect on how good a league is otherwise Bundesliga would be above La Liga.

Were Chelsea really the best team in Europe last year? Or did they just know how to organise themselves in a couple of knock out games, while riding a bit of luck?

Well. The Bundesliga has the highest average attendance in europe, they have the healthiest finance, there is NO investor involved, no team is living off of borrowed money, the stadiums are all brandnew and hightech with a few exceptions, the only thing they lack is a major title in the last few years, but that will change i would assume. And also, as i already said, the atmosphere is much better since nearly every single game is sold out, and we still have real STANDS. So. What EXACTLY makes the other leagues better?

and if with 'la liga' you mean the serie a in italy, half of their teams are basically completely broke and will be gone from international football once the financial fairplay rules will kick in, same goes for quite a few teams in spain.

Well. The Bundesliga has the highest average attendance in europe, they have the healthiest finance, there is NO investor involved, no team is living off of borrowed money, the stadiums are all brandnew and hightech with a few exceptions, the only thing they lack is a major title in the last few years, but that will change i would assume. And also, as i already said, the atmosphere is much better since nearly every single game is sold out, and we still have real STANDS. So. What EXACTLY makes the other leagues better?

and if with 'la liga' you mean the serie a in italy, half of their teams are basically completely broke and will be gone from international football once the financial fairplay rules will kick in, same goes for quite a few teams in spain.

La Liga is the Spanish league and I'm agreeing with you on the Bundesliga, that was the point I was making.

oh, sorry,i misunderstood you. i thought you referred to the serie a as la liga. in germany we call the spanish one only primera division. language barrier misunderstanding. thank you.

but i still think when it comes to international interest we are way behind the EPL and 'La liga', if you go anywhere outside of europe people usually dont care about the bundesliga and all you ever hear is 'ManU! Barca! Real!'

Well. The Bundesliga has the highest average attendance in europe, they have the healthiest finance, there is NO investor involved, no team is living off of borrowed money, the stadiums are all brandnew and hightech with a few exceptions, the only thing they lack is a major title in the last few years, but that will change i would assume. And also, as i already said, the atmosphere is much better since nearly every single game is sold out, and we still have real STANDS. So. What EXACTLY makes the other leagues better?

and if with 'la liga' you mean the serie a in italy, half of their teams are basically completely broke and will be gone from international football once the financial fairplay rules will kick in, same goes for quite a few teams in spain.

The wikipedia article on highest averages aren't exactly accurate. A lot of our teams with bigger stadiums are in Championship.

QPR can only hold 18k and only about 10-15 teams can hold over 30K. Teams like Leeds, Boro, both Sheffields, etc. are all capable of bigger attendances then them but aren't able to get back up yet.

I'm sure you have the same problem with your weaker sides in your league and some B-liga 2 teams but we've had a lot more get relegated.

Granted your money abilities are above all teams but Chavski and City so arguement here but a lot of our teams have hightech equipment and facilities.

Atmosphere doesn't mean anything in being a better league though. Better fanbases? Hell yeah, I imagine that easily compared to half our teams but an atmosphere isn't going to equal better quality of football. If it worked like that. MLB would be behind Mexico, Korea and Japans Baseball League.

The biggest difference the BPL has over every other league and every other sport is simply it's everywhere. In asia a lot of teams have stupid amount of support. In America a lot of the MLS supporters now also follow an EPL team. Nearly all countries get Premier League fixtures.

Pau was telling me how Sunderland vs Norwich was getting advertised in the Liga MX grand final in Mexico. It's just the massive advantage we have over all of them. It's a worldwide league. This in turn equals bigger cash for the 20 teams in the League. You'd be surprised how much every team gets per year.

Other massive advantages we have is our style of play. It's fast paced end to end stuff. A lot more interesting then how MLS, Seria Rigged or any league is like. It makes it more interesting to watch.

Plus our players are a big help. I'm not saying no league has star players. B-Liga has beast and amazing players but you can't point to 1 team in BPL who doesn't have someone great.

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E-feddingVan Hooligan X
4 time World Champion
Only 2 time dual World Champion
Won more awards than your best character has had #1 contender matchesAPW co-founder
Hall of FamerMost successful wrestler of all time
1 of the most successful managers of all time
Member of the greatest faction of all time (The Clique)
1/2 of the great tag team of all time (The Infection w/Carlos Alberto Ramon)
The destroyer of EFeds (w/Dennis)