OK. The combination for what order to press the symbols is found on a piece of paper in the Trader's Room. You can see it by looking through the window from the front where you arrived in Laki'ahn. It is on a table near the left window (as you face the Trader's Room front door from outside).

Is anyone having as much trouble with the elevator on the first floor of the fighter maze as I am? I put the slate on the pressure plate, run to the lever and pull it up then run to the elevator and it starts up - then a Bahro takes the slate and I'm heading back down. I've yet to make it to the second floor after at least 7 tries! I've tried the slate on the plate and all around the edge and still the Bahro beats me. Am I missing something here?

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I was having exactly the same problem Kero. This time, I waited till he appeared the first time and disappeared, then raised the counterweight (tablet still glowing on the pressure plate). Now he's come back... I've been hanging about for five minutes on the elevator pad while the stupid Bahro stands staring as if mesmerized by the tablet on the pressure plate..I wish he'd get a move on a pick the darn thing up! He's not singing either!

Edit: Okay, so I thought I'd quit out and restart the game from savepoint..that didnt' work either. I seem to be just as stuck as you on the lower level, and I've tried this about 12 times now; getting pretty tired of running back for slates.

What symbol are you using on the slate? You need to use one that will keep the Bahro around for a while... long enough to get you up the elevator.

I used the singing symbol from the Yeesha journal where she talks about sining. Then I put down the slate in the center of the pressure plate. Then I slowly (Bahro won't come because you are still too close to the slate) walked over to the counter weight and pulled it up, then I faced the pressure plate and backed up onto the elevator. He stayed on the plate long enough for me to ride up and run off the elevator the first time.

Well, I just tried your technique dadguy, but the Bahro is doing the same thing. He comes, looks at the slate with the singer on it, then disappears too fast and I come down again. No possible way to get off the elevator on the next floor. This last time, I had to time to slip off, raise the weight again, and when the Bahro came back he again only stayed a few seconds on the plate before linking out with the slate, bringing the lift down again before we'd even reached the upper floor.

Anyone else got any ideas how to get on the second floor?

Update: Okay, I went back a little to a savegame before I had first tackled the pressure plate/elevator puzzle, and used your technique dadguy.. it worked! Oh joy, now a maze!

Thank you dadguy - thank you, thank you, thank you - I bow to your superior wisdom. After my post here I took a break to eat supper. Read a little, then came here to see if someone had answered. I immediately tried your suggestion - using the singing symbol - and I am now on the second floor. Drdel - I know exactly how you feel. But Myst isn't Myst without a maze.

Kero

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Dadguy! Don't know what moved you to go back thru the symbols in Yeesha's journals to notice the shape of the slate on the "singing" symbol...but it certainly was brilliant! I had tried the snake, figuring that would keep the Bahro there...but it didn't even phase him! Guess there are no snakes on Lak'i.

A thousand thanks for that tip-the only time I was stumped in this age. After Todelmer, everything seems a breeze!

Did you notice that you can hear him "singing" down there? Being a computer nerd I look at all of the files in the program directory and the sounds are all identified there. All of the Bahro sounds are short, but the "Bahro SING" sound went on longer than all of the others. Aha! That's what we need...more time!

Can you change the way you play the game in the middle of it or do I have to go back to the beginning as Player 2? I did not choose combined method and cannot back up to the elevator. Is that the problem? I keep having the same problem as Kero. I get to the second floor and the elevator drops before I can jump off. I was hoping Options would give me that choice but it doesn't.

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Originally posted by dogpenny: Can you change the way you play the game in the middle of it or do I have to go back to the beginning as Player 2? I did not choose combined method and cannot back up to the elevator. Is that the problem? I keep having the same problem as Kero. I get to the second floor and the elevator drops before I can jump off. I was hoping Options would give me that choice but it doesn't.

Well, I have been just using Classic mode throughout, dogpenny, and that wasn't the problem - I had the same difficulty as Kero too.After I'd messed around a bit myself with the elevator puzzle, I did have to go back a little to an earlier save in Laki'ahn prior to touching that puzzle before I could get dadguy's method to work though.

I'm not positive but I think if clicking your mouse scroll button doesn't make you back up, that would be something about the way your mouse is generally set up to work, and should be able to be adjusted under your Control Panel mouse control thingy. If you don't have a mouse scroll button at all, maybe you have a middle button? If no middle mouse button, I'm not sure if you can using the backing feature at all.