Yeah Plushy! That should fire the others up. If they don't put 4-3s in their short programs, they might be toast before the long program even begins. Finally some suspense. Chan might succeed without 4-3 and get a high score - but for a skater like Lysacek it's a clear message: get the 4-3 in the short.

well, he probably got hefty +GOEs on his first 2 jumping passes. they were breathtaking.... couldn't really not give them +2 to +3 marks. while some might not like his style per se, his speed is phenomenal.... the ease of stroking and the tech. aspect....esp. in the short where this is important....is highlighted.

well, he probably got +GOEs on his first 2 jumping passes. they were breathtaking.... couldn't really not give them plus marks. while some might not like his style per se, his speed is phenomenal.... the ease of stroking and the tech. aspect....esp. in the short where this is important....is highlighted.

Thanks. Good point there. But Verner got nearly the same on PCS as far as I remember, his TES was lower though. It was because of those spin levels, and the relatively small GOE he received (4-3 nearly into the boards, 3A nearly underrotated, 3 Lutz was quite low).

Thanks. Good point there. But Verner got nearly the same on PCS as far as I remember, his TES was lower though. It was because of those spin levels, and the relatively small GOE he received (4-3 nearly into the boards, 3A nearly underrotated, 3 Lutz was quite low).

Verner had 37.10. And he _landed_ all his jumps. And as if Zhenya's spins are a work of art.