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Friday, November 07, 2008

JORAN VAN DER SLOOT AND WOMEN FLESH

You remember Joran van der Sloot? Joran is the gentleman who was involved in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba in 2005.

Neither the Aruban police nor the Dutch national police ever managed to pin her disappearance on Joran van der Sloot, and the Dutch press and public were adamant that he could not have had anything to do with it. After all, he was a well-brought-up Dutch boy, from a good family, whose father was a respected lawyer (Paul van der Sloot).Natalee Holloway was merely an American high school girl (one strike against her), from the south (two strikes against her), distantly related to the Bush family (three strikes against her), who was drunk at the time.

The Dutch public was outraged at the attempt to blame Joran van der Sloot, and insisted that the young lady had probably run away to join the sex-industry in Latin America, and in any case deserved whatever happened to her.Joran was innocent, and in their eyes Natalee was an American slut who only got what was coming to her.

Since then, tapes and casual remarks of Joran van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers have pretty much established that they drugged Natalee, gang-raped her as she was dying, and dumped the body in the ocean.

Much of the Dutch public still feels that she got what she deserved.

After all, she was an American high school girl, from the south, distantly related to the Bush family, who was drunk at the time.

Drugging girls for the purpose of sex is common enough in the Netherlands that it does not excite much comment.

At this time, all evidence in the case, while establishing the course of events clearly, does not constitute actionable material to the Dutch authorities.

The Dutch public remains angry at crime reporter Peter DeVries for uncovering much of what actually happened.

SELLING THAI WOMEN INTO SLAVERY

Joran van der Sloot is now living in Thailand, selling Thai women to European pimps.

His price for a Thai girl is ten thousand Euros. Included in the deal are letters and documents showing that she is going to the Netherlands for educational purposes, plus all necessary identification and travel papers, and the young woman herself, to be smuggled into the Netherlands and delivered to the purchaser.

Fresh deliveries can be made every week, guaranteed.

It is not known whether drugs and rape are part of the bargain.

Judging by the villa in Bangkok in which he lives, business must be good. Booming, in fact.The demand exceeds supply, and potential buyers in Holland abound.

Please note that Joran van der Sloot is well-brought-up, and from a good Dutch family, whose father is a respected lawyer. You can trust him.

21 Comments:

Obviously you don't have a clue of what people in Holland are thinking: I can tell you that there is not a living soul here in Holland that likes Joran van der Sloot nor has any sympathy for what he has done. We all feel sorry for Natalee's family and their loss. Joran van der Sloot fled Holland because he did n't get a moment of peace here, he was followed by journalists 24/7 and he was even threatened and therefore went abroad were he is now again playing the role he likes best. He is a pig and I hope he will rot in a Thai prison.

Dear mister Vos, you ignore that I have been reading Netherlandish newspapers and Netherlandish web rubrics for years. Furthermore, I correspond regularly with Netherlanders. It follows from that that I most certainly am entitled to claim that I understand Dutch people.

Till De Vries, in the early part of this year, broadcast his television special about Joran van der Sloot, many Dutch were convinced that Natalee deserved it, or was laughing about it somewhere in Latin Amerika, or even that her classmates had done her in. There was scarcely any sympathy for her family.

The Dutch-language internet chatter about the Holloway case was of such a venomous character that one could get the impression that a majority of Netherlanders considered American girls as throw-away shmatte.

When I still lived there, Americans were not considered equals in any case. The memory of being a second-rate person is still strong. I do not think it probable that an American will be treated fairly in Dutch society.

"was merely an American high school girl (one strike against her), from the south (two strikes against her), distantly related to the Bush family (three strikes against her), who was drunk at the time."

Gee, the Dutch seem to think just like the average Northeaseterner pseudo-intellectual...

I really wonder which newspapers you read and with what type of Neatherlanders you communicate. Living in The Netherlands, reading 4 newspapers, politically from left-to- right, 3 so called opinion magazines and following the audio-visual media on a day-by-day basis I cannot understand how you came to your conclusions.

Oh surely, there might have been e few people thinking that Natalee deserved what happened to her but the vast majority of Neatherlanders were deeply shocked and very sympathetic to her father and mother.

You refer to internet chatting, obiously from dubious sites, and that leads to your conclusion that many Netherlanders consider American girls as throw-away objects. That mr. Back of the Hill is absolutely nonsens and 100% contrary to my personal day-by-day experience here in The Netherlands.

It is true, neither the Aruban nor the Dutch police managed to solve the case, there is until now no body found nor are there witnesses. Your statement Dutch press and public were convinced of van der Sloots innocence is nonsense, almost everybody was convinced of the opposite and hope that evidence shall be found as soon as possible. The three strikes against her, in the eyes of the Dutch public, as you state, is even greater nonsens. Why should someone on the Dutch streets consider a Highschool girl coming from the south as minor? I think 95% of the people here do not even know what a high school is let alone that they knew she came from the south and if so why that should be a disadvantage.

I think the reason for your very sour article is hidden in the last sentence of your answer to Paul Vos.

... and with what type of Neatherlanders you communicateMostly middle-class, educated, middle-aged. Many of them are multi-lingual. Some are Indos, some are Jewish, some are, in fact, Americans and Englishmen long resident in the Netherlands.

... internet chatting, obiously from dubious sites, All sites are dubious. It depends on the person doing the doubting.

contrary to my personal day-by-day experience here in The Netherlands.But based one hundred and twenty percent on my daily experience living in the Netherlands from 1962 through 1978, plus several extended visits since. As I may have indicated in some other sour writings about the Netherlands, it is not the majority who are the problem, but the (substantial, charmless, and vocal) minority who by their behaviour, their statements, and their treatment of foreigners (bijvoorbeeld Marokanen, Turken, en Amerikanen) make life sour. The utter lack of nuance in their ideas and views on America is sometimes stunning, usually merely irritating and disappointing. Couple that with the common conviction that the Dutch have been a beacon of culture, a civilizing influence, and a model of ethical behaviour throughout the centuries, and you have a recipe for poison. Again, not the majority - but an errant arrogant minority that is always right, and whom the majority not only tolerate, but emotionally support. They are Dutch. And an American is not only a foreigner, but a representative of much that the Dutch see fit to dislike. Think of it as pricking a voodoo doll.

I think the reason for your very sour article is hidden in the last sentence of your answer to Paul Vos"Ik houd het niet voor waarschijnlijk dat een Amerikaan in de Nederlandsche maatschappij een fair deal krijgt."

That, my dear anonymous, is an understatement; I put it far too mildly. I should've written that I not only do NOT 'hold it likely', but that it was very rare indeed during my time there.

I like individual Dutch people. But as a group, I prefer the French.The Dutch I still enjoy the company of are primarily Indos and Jews, a number of Surinamers, some well-educated people with much exposure to the outside world, bookstore clerks, and sigaren magazijn employees. I limit my exposure to the rest of the cheese as much as possible.

"Drugging girls for the purpose of sex is common enough in the Netherlands that it does not excite much comment."

I doubt that, but do you think that does not happen in the USA?Nobody in the Netherlands has any sympathie for Joran but more and more people want due process rather than trial by media.

It seems much more likely that van der Sloot was trying to swindle some money out of perceived sex-bosses rather than engaging in the flesh trade and he surely was not planning to send unknowing innocent women. None of the papers you described were actually processed.

If you want to bash Joran, go ahead, but do this with facts and not merely by critcizing dutch society coz obviously you ave your facts wrong and only express opinions.

Now some unknown is claiming that Beth Holloway caused the disappearance of her daughter, and the commentarists underneath the Algemeen Dagblad article are going apeshit with the ususal anti-American remarks.

Not all reactions were anti-American or suggested that Natalee Holloway was a drug-addicted slut with a thing for black men. Nor did all of the reactions state that Joran van der Sloot was a victim of some dastardly Amrican plot. But I fail to see much evidence of perspective or fairness in the reactions.

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