should help the newer 1911 owner's when detail stripping their gun for the first few times.

FWIW, The 10-8 bench block and armorer's tool are pretty nice. I picked mine up last year.

pistolwrench

11-27-2010, 16:59

That is the best info on the 1911 that I have ever seen!
The 1911 community owes Hilton one for this.
:cool:

rsxr22

11-27-2010, 17:28

Definitely a good tool Don! You never told me though that the 10-8 sights needed fitted!! Jeez Ive been filing away and still am not close

Quack

11-27-2010, 17:34

you never asked and need a better file :rofl:

for those not following along, the "Novak" cut rear dovetail on the Springfield is smaller than the .500" sight base, so the sights rear angle needs to be filed down.

here's a pic of factory sights off my EMP and TRP, knedrgr's Ultra and my Professional also needed the same fitting.

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1006395979_YbJCF-L.jpg

FWIW, my Kobra Carry and DW Guardian needed no filing.

rsxr22

11-27-2010, 17:37

How far were you able to slide the 10-8 into the dovetail before you pushed it in? Brian said he takes his down so he can get it a little more than 1/4 of the way in then uses the sight pusher. I filed it down to the same size for the most part as the standard Triji and Im still not getting the darn thing in

wrx04

11-27-2010, 17:43

How often do you guys detail strip your 1911's? I have about 2000 through mine and haven't done it, but to a noob, it looks pretty intimidating. Should i try it or have a smith do it?

Quack

11-27-2010, 17:45

I get the sight started about 1/4 of the way as well, then use a pusher.
the file i use is a triangle file, i also slightly break the corner on the rear with a few swipes of a flat file.

Quack

11-27-2010, 17:47

How often do you guys detail strip your 1911's? I have about 2000 through mine and haven't done it, but to a noob, it looks pretty intimidating. Should i try it or have a smith do it?

i detail strip it when it's new, and that's mainly because I install a flat trigger. I don't detail strip on a regular basis, but Hilton's recommendation of 1000-3000 rounds is a good place to start.

Boxerglocker

11-27-2010, 17:50

Nice link Quack, thanks very much.

PlasticGuy

11-27-2010, 18:19

How often do you guys detail strip your 1911's? I have about 2000 through mine and haven't done it, but to a noob, it looks pretty intimidating. Should i try it or have a smith do it?
I was a little intimidated before I detail stripped one of my 1911's for the first time, but it's really not bad. I detail strip and clean each of my 1911's once per year no matter what, and every 3,000 rounds or so if I get there before the year is over.

I don't agree 100% with Yam's opinions on magazines, but the rest of that article is very good stuff.

Cobra64

11-27-2010, 21:26

Quack,

Thanks for the link. It was interesting, informative, and educational. :)

AC45ACP

11-27-2010, 21:53

I detail strip when New and once a month on my Carry gun.

knedrgr

11-27-2010, 21:57

FWIW, my Kobra Carry and DW Guardian needed no filing.

I don't think you needed to file down the sight for my DW CCO neither.

Quack

11-27-2010, 22:11

I don't think you needed to file down the sight for my DW CCO neither.

nope, didn't need to do anything for your CCO.

on a side note, i didn't even need a sight pusher to take the sight off of my Guardian, just loosened the screw and pushed it off with my hand. installed the 10-8 the same way, but used the pusher to get it centered.

rsxr22

11-27-2010, 22:18

Well too bad all the ones you listed were NOT my TRP LOL

Quack

11-27-2010, 22:22

:animlol:

carloglock19

11-28-2010, 07:08

Man that's a good link. Thanks!

Cerebrus

11-28-2010, 10:33

Thanks Quack.. that is deffnly a great link... altho it does raise a question.. just how similar is the series 80 in comparison to the Swartz safety in a Kimber?

Quack

11-28-2010, 10:48

they are different. the Swartz has a single piece that is actuated with the grip safety. It's similar to the disconnector as it moves up and down. When you press on the grip safety, the tang that blocks the trigger bow lifts up and pushes the Swartz safety part up.
http://www.mouseguns.com/kimrev/swartz.jpg

The Series 80 has 2 pieces and is actuated with the trigger. the Series 80 is a pivoting movement. Pull the trigger, and the trigger bow moves to the rear moving the first part, that then moves the second part.
http://guns4u.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/safety.jpg

Cerebrus

11-28-2010, 10:58

Good to know... as I am planning my Kimber to be my first detail strip victim..

Quack

11-28-2010, 11:15

just note the position of the Swartz safety part when you take it out.

Quack

11-28-2010, 11:22

also seems like the Springfield GI also has an undersized rear sight dovetail

How often do you guys detail strip your 1911's? I have about 2000 through mine and haven't done it, but to a noob, it looks pretty intimidating. Should i try it or have a smith do it?

Once a year per policy at my department. Colt never gave a magic number at the armorer's course I went to this year. If you drop it in mud or water or stand in the rain for a long period of time with it exposed.

Detail stripping a 1911 is pretty easy. To be honest is is easier than a Glock. Certainly easier than a Sig or Beretta. The only thing that gets tricky is the MSH if you don't have a third hand or a bench block as seen in the photos at 10-8. Even then I can manage it. The only time the MSH gets totally disassembled at my PD is when the MSH gets replaced.

Cerebrus

11-28-2010, 13:25

Looking at that Kimber diagram.. it would appear that to completely remove the Swartz safety, I would have to remove the rear sight? wtf?? really?.. especially as Kimber uses some kinda 10 ton hydraulic press to install those things... guess I will have to live with it then..:steamed:

nastytrigger

11-28-2010, 14:48

I'm a tinkerer. I had my 1911 apart before I shot it :supergrin: I agree, sure is easier to detail strip a 1911 than a Beretta 92. I dislike detail stripping Beretta 92 slides, but it's the only way to replace extractor and firing pin springs.

Agent6-3/8

11-28-2010, 16:40

Strange...I've never seen anyone field strip a 1911 with a G.I. recoil set up that way. Seems like it makes it more complicated than just turning the bushing and removing the plug and recoil spring first. :dunno:

Quack

11-28-2010, 16:42

Strange...I've never seen anyone field strip a 1911 with a G.I. recoil set up that way. Seems like it makes it more complicated than just turning the bushing and removing the plug and recoil spring first. :dunno: