New Hampshire Armed Citizens Protect Military Recruitment Center

A woman who asked not to be identified thanks the armed civilians out front of a Manchester, New Hampshire, military recruiting center after the recent shooting by “Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez” who opened fire on two military installations in Chattanooga, Tennessee, killing five service members and wounding one other service member and a police officer.

The armed men who stood outside a military recruiting center in New Hampshire said they wanted to provide security for the people working inside after last week’s shooting in Tennessee.

The reason? Believe it or not there are bans on most military personnel — who are forbidden from carrying firearms on military bases and recruitment facilities.

Are you military or ex-military? What is your opinion on these bans?

Here’s more…

Similar to any gun-free zone, by disarming the Armed Forces, gun-free policies at military facilities have made our men and women in uniform easy targets for terrorist attacks.

When did this policy start?

Apparently this “gun free zone” type policy is intertwined with policies implemented during the Clinton era as well as under George H.W. Bush, based on the Department of Defense (DoD) Directive 5210.56, and Army Regulation 190-14.

Question:
How is it that Marines who have stormed battlefields are stripped defenseless back home?

Well in New Hampshire, citizens are taking matters into their own hands. Armed citizens have gathered outside a Manchester military recruiting center to protect the military. Tim Dow (pictured above), said he spoke with a Manchester police officer who was patrolling the shopping center across South Willow Street from the Mall of New Hampshire. Dow said he also spoke with some of the staff inside the office, who he said appreciated their efforts. The public response has been positive. People have been stopping by, getting out of their vehicles and thanking for the efforts.

While it is legal in New Hampshire to do what they’re doing (they actually uphold the 2nd Amendment here), in other states you would be arrested right quick…

With that said, what is your opinion of this situation? Will the military here at home continue to be ‘targets’ because of their “gun free” policies? Is this yet another example of how so called “gun free zones” really don’t work?

Over the past 14 years of war the flag has been at half mast a lot of times, and yes especially when this many were killed at the same time, and especially in the homeland. Barack Hussein O has also made it a point to call the parents and families of people like Trayvon, Michael Brown and Freddie Gray who did not serve their countries and died under less than honorable situations. Instead he goes golfing when our military members are killed, no phone call…

Yes, we have lost numerous service members, but this is very different. This was a terrorist attack on our home soil. Couple that with the fact that the government knew our armed forces and their families are being targeted here in the US. This is a failure on the federal governments part to protect our soldiers on our very own home turf. The least they could do is fly the flag at half staff. Issuing a statement on how great Islam is could have also waited until POTUS at least addressed this tragedy. It’s almost like he couldn’t have timed this to be any more insulting than it was. It makes me wonder if that Islam speech was sitting on a shelf waiting for an attack to happen.

I was stunned when I learned, many incidents ago (murders ago), that military personnel in the states are not armed. don’t know how this regulation is with other countries, but it makes no sense to me. If these persons are not (military personnel)to be trusted with guns, in their own country, on their own turf, in their own homes (some of them live on these bases), are they not considered safe to be around others? How is it reasonable to send them to other countries with weapons? Often amongst civilians who have no weapons?

It also seems bizarre the flag is not lowered, calls were not made, but in many other cases this was done.

What’s so sad is that the military are expected to carry weapons abroad because they are in hostile territory. Here at home, they are supposed to be among people who are friendly to them. There shouldn’t be a threat on our own soil!

I guess that’s the whole point of terrorists. They want us to feel threatened everywhere we go.

It has always been a sticking point to me that I was not able to carry even a military issued firearm on base during my multiple decades of service. Even overseas in hostile areas there were times when off duty we had to turn our weapons in at the armory leaving us vulnerable to attacks by “our friendly partners”. One of the reason I don’t shop on military bases is because I can’t carry concealed or leave a firearm in my vehicle. If we can trust our military members with nuclear subs, M-1 Tanks, B-2 Bombers we should be able to trust them having a Glock 17 or Beretta M-9 on their belt.

By the way, God bless the freedom lovers and patriots in New Hampshire!

Schools, Hospitals, Churches, Military Bases, Theaters, Malls, Wally World, Court Houses, Colleges, businesses that display “Gun Free”, it is an endless list of open and free targets. I guess the tree hugger idiots are hoping ISIS, Muslim, or “whoever” terrorist who want to chop your head off and stick it on a pole are going to read the “Gun Free Zone” signs and walk away??? How stupid is that? When is the last time a terrorist attacked a gun store or bunch of rednecks out mudden?

I have said it before and I will repeat it till I’m blue in the face, “Why the he|| is our military NOT armed?”, why the heck is it the civilian population has to protect the unarmed military, so when good old Berry want’s to declare Martial Law they wont have any weapons to defend this Great Country from his tyranny? I don’t really care who started this crapo of an unarmed military it’s stupid, plain and simple. No wonder Berry wants to have a 100% totally DHS ran “national police”, he don’t trust his own military as shown by the number of good Generals (and others) is has had fired. Think about that as you remember Benghazi. I noticed he has made NO move to revoke Directive 5210.56, and Army Regulation 190-14. He||, he wont even fly the flag at 1/2 mast for fallen military, of course if he did that would be taken as they were killed in action, meaning in a state of war. What a piece of work he is.

My friends, if you think this sort of thing dose not concern you than you might think again the next time you head into a “gun free zone” with nobody covering your 6. It’s about surviving and prepping. being disarmed so you can buy a bag of beans at Wally World is disgraceful, period.

…well, once in awhile when a current-event gets me fired up, I’ll post about it. There is so much going on with regards to current-events (that get me fired up) that I could dedicate an entire blog to it… but I’m busy enough as it is 😉

Getting fired up is not a bad thing these days! I try to do it at least once daily and eventually realize I have to pull myself from the ledges of society 😉

Seriously though – As a veteran, this is ridiculous to not allow soldiers to be armed. It just goes back to my biggest gripe in the subversive socialist movement going on. They take away right after right after right. And, you never really knew what was going on until you needed it like those soldiers did. It’s way beyond being just a tragedy…!

But, it does seems some in society are starting to wake up some… Not a lot, but it’s happening for sure!

That said, just wait until we see what Obama does before the end of his term when it is clear a Democrat isn’t getting back into office. Just wait until we see what pain he causes before his exit and how fired up people are…

That is just one way this chessboard could play out in order to keep him in power. It’s conspiracy theory stuff, but who the heck thought we would’ve had this drastic of change or for it to be at this record pace.

For what it is worth, today was the first time I saw an news article in a regular outlet about Obama planning to move on as many executive actions and last minute legal changes as possible just before his time runs up and transitions to a conservative.

Imagine that chaos…

The election is still far enough out that folks don’t have their eyes on what he still intends to change. So, just imagine the worst case scenarios of his change and how society might react.

I mean – what’s the absolute worst he could do to between now and then?? Certainly Jade Helm in real-time could be the result of whatever it is…

Its a great thing they are doing but I have a question to all if it can be answered. If our government is laying off experienced soldiers and forcing generals to retire with an expected cut of 40,000 in the next 2 years. Why are recruitment centers open ??? Is it so we have a less experienced military and then disarm the layed off soldiers and citizens so we can’t defend our country ??? Just a thought.

@ Thor – This is probably more of a financial exercise than is coming out in the news to be fair. Part of the costs associated with running the military is the recruitment centers, i.e. automobiles, leases for offices, troops, etc.

I’m probably giving too much credit here, but some 3rd party was probably brought in to assess which recruitment sites could reduce costs the most over the next so many years as part of the 40k troop draw down. This would be based on recruitment levels being lower than goal for those locations. I’d also expect some recruiters to lose their jobs because of their objectives not being met, but certainly not all.

Now, could Obama be going after this draw down more aggressively than is necessary? Is it poor timing that doesn’t match well with what terrorist events are going on domestically?

Here is a thought for you Thor
The military runs on “do as your told and don’t think”. If you can replace 23-28+ year old “thinking” soldiers with 18 year old kids that have absolutely no idea of what’s going on, what would you do? Also “retire” an experienced Officer and replace with someone you can promote from the “non-thinking” ranks, and what do you have? There ya go, and to cut another 40K when we’re getting ready to fight ISIS and “whatever” welllll that’s Berry for you, always thinking ahead. Interesting they are cutting 40K in the military and yet funding the crapo out of DHS. Nice huh?
NRP

Well we are no longer fielding large forces in 2 wars so the massive troop building over the past decade is being corrected. No military wants to get rid of their “thinkers” and old hat veterans. That is what makes a military run and is what makes the US military top in the world. The Marines and soldiers who are combat experienced will train the next lot of recruits which will build a better trained force than those who were on the initial push into Afghanistan/Iraq.

I agree with you 1000% mostly, yes the Military runs on smart people, unfortunately I also believe that Berry is trying everything he can to kill this nation, disrupt the public, and allow infiltration into our society by corrupt government. If we have a strong military that “may” oppose the idea of Martial Law or any outside forces than one would need to weaken that military. No? I believe that is exactly what this “commander and chief” is doing.
Also unfortunately we see what’s happening in those two war areas now that we are removing out troops.
JMHO
NRP

I will automatically extend complete faith and trust in any active duty military member/reservist/NG member, or honorably discharged veteran, over ANY politician, Muslim(practicing or lapsed) or any so-called Social Justice Reverend!

All politicians, Muslims and SocialJusticeReverends are an enemy of freedom and the Republic. Nothing in history has changed at all.

Political Whores and Muslims deserve each other and the SJReverends will get their special place in Hell, well deserved for perverting the actual message of God.

Politicians, Muslims and the “reverends” are pathological liars as history has proved.

When Obama & mob consider Social Security recipients more of a threat than ISIS we have a very, very big problem. Of course to Obama, we are the threat, not ISIS, Communist Cuba, Communist Viet Nam, Iran…. he is okay with Iran obtaining weaponry, but not with 2nd amendment guaranteed Americans.

I prefer it like that. When MSM has their pictures up and covers the terrorist constantly all it does is elevates that person in the eyes of those who follow the same ideals. I much prefer to have the names of these murderers lost to history.

I want to share the reasoning for having an unarmed military, and I mean no disgrace to our soldiers, who I hold in the highest regard. The reason they are unarmed here in the US is because We The People (the states and their citizens) do not want an occupying federal army in our borders. This is entirely about state rights and limiting the power of the federal government. Let all the soldiers openly carry guns while they drill, and pretty soon the mentality of the soldiers and the citizens begins to change. It makes me think of the Clint Eastwood quote while he is holding a man at gunpoint. They are looking for a treasure in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. He says, “Some men have loaded guns, and some men dig… You dig.” Right now, the states and their citizens have the loaded guns, and the soldiers operating in those states can “dig” (do their work and drill). We currently allow MP’s to carry on military bases. I could go for having a gun safe at recruiting centers and allowing soldiers to carry while working in the recruiting center or even have rifles available in an emergency. What we don’t want, is soldiers walking down the street with M4’s. Freedom isn’t free or cheap. This was a horrible act of terrorism. However, allowing the federal government to place an armed occupying force in our sovereign states would actually be a further erosion of the state and individual rights these soldiers are supposed to be protecting. Again, I mostly trust our soldiers. Like almost every other profession there are only a few bad apples. Politicians and the federal government cannot be trusted and should not be given more power. They have already taken enough.

Ahhh,
You are aware that the DHS is operating within “our borders” and are armed to the teeth? as are other aspects of the Fed-Gov. Secret Service, INS, DHS, heck, even the National Forest Service is “armed”, so yea the Fed’s are armed within our borders.

You are aware that Berry is pushing very, extremely, hard to eliminate the local/county/state police forces and institute the “national police”?

You do know the only thing stopping the “Politicians and the federal government ” from doing a lot of things is the idea that “We The ‘Armed’ People” will stop them in their tracks?

You are aware that Berry is dead set on eliminating the Constitution in all forms and manor? Not only the 2nd Amendment but the entire Constitution along with all of our rights included.

I personally see a HUGE difference between the “government” and the military, especially when it comes to Berry the self confessed Muslim.

I personally would rather see a “military” person, walking down the street with a firearm than a Blacked Out Hummer filled with DHS personal parked on each corner and DHS drones in the sky, also lets not forget the NSA illegally recording every second of your life. Oh and lets not forget all of the EO that Berry has signed bypassing the Congress and the Supreme Court. So much for 3 branches of the Kings Government.

I respect your right to your thinking, I just don’t seem to agree with everything you say, no disrespect meant.

Most of us understand the “Posse Commitatus” laws and agree with them. We are not talking about active military members leaving base for lunch with rocket launchers strapped on their backs. What would make sense would be to allow them to carry concealed/or open handguns like the rest of us citizens. Many of them (I was in the same situation) live off base and on their way to work and on their way home they are completely defenseless as they stop to pick up something at the store. What has been the militaries solution recently? “don’t wear your uniform off base”. Really, in the freest country in the world we are now telling our nations warriors to dress in civilian clothes?? WTeff. Let them carry and have the same rights as those of us in free states and and I bet you see different outcomes when someone starts yelling a jihadi chant.

This outrage goes way beyond forcing our military personnel to operate in this country like ducks in a shooting gallery.

Our troops have been operating in theaters of war everywhere but specifically in the Middle East with ‘Rules of Engagement’ so strict they might as well be unarmed.

Since ‘The One’ was inaugurated casualties have gone way up. Of course were no longer treated to a daily ‘US Body Count’ by the leftist media.

Fighting ISIS,,,, what a joke ! They brag about the number of sorties sent aloft daily to bomb them; what’s not mentioned is that most of these flights return with their ordinance still attached to the fuselage. WHY? Because the pilots require specific permission from Washington (real time)to drop them on the enemy.

“A nation can survive its fools, but it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”

Well put Sober_Truth and NRP you’re right on track with the “hiring” of inexperienced 18 year old kids for the military. Just look at the rest of Corporate America, most managers in retail have zero life experience and are barely old enough to be called adults!

John Kasich governor of Ohio and presidential candidate, authorized Ohio National Guard recruiting office personnel to be armed, starting immediately. There are 67 Ohio National Guard recruiting stations.

Some other states have taken the same steps, maybe the fed will follow.

It’s interesting how we all, me included, seem to “jump on the band wagon” once a horrific crime is committed.

What I would like to know, where is the News media, the advertisement, the Nation Debate of the hundreds of crimes that are stopped or prevented because of Armed Citizens? Where is the discussion on the CC people that are there when some puke is robbing a store of restaurant, committing rape or murder?

Please remember if you don’t carry, “when seconds matter, the police are just minutes away”. Here is a little research for y-all, Are the police required or responsible to “stop” a crime, to put them selves in harms way to help anyone? Can you depend on an Officer to “protect” you when the time comes? or are they there to do the paperwork AFTER the crime is committed? Please don’t misunderstand me, I have the greatest respect for our officers (God knows I would never have their job), I just don’t believe they will be the first line of defense when some puke is trying to commit a crime, beating and raping your wife/child or worse, and yes even murdering five military personnel where the work. Can you imagine how the families feel about their Sons, Brothers, Husbands being required by the DOD to be defenseless? Even more so how they feel about the ISIS/Muslim/Wacko-Bastards, what would you do next? Retaliation? Revenge? Forgiveness? Sit around singing “Kumbaya”? I Pray to GOD none of us ever has to make that decision.

Something to think about
NRP

PS; if/when you ever get stopped by an officer, be courteous, be “nice”, do as they ask without arguing, if you fight with an officer, you WILL lose, period. These men and women have a horrible job, treat them respect and they WILL treat you the same. If you do something stupid than you will be treated in kind.

At one time, the military had a “gun culture”. Soldiers would talk about them, bring them to work to show and to let their buddies admire them. Buy, sell, trade or barter for them at work or off duty. That all changed when bill clinton was in office. Suddenly we were required (ordered) to register all personally owned firearms on base with the provost marshal’s office. It didn’t matter if you lived downtown or on base. Shortly afterwards came the searches of POV’s going off base and coming on base for guns.

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