Obama Appoints Man Who Identifies as Woman to Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships Council

WASHINGTON — Barack Obama has appointed a man who identifies as a woman to serve on his Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships.

The man, who goes by the name Barbara Satin, is a veteran of the United States Air Force and formerly served on the United Church of Christ’s executive council. He was behind the denomination’s decision to affirm transgendered persons in the ministry.

Satin was raised by his mother after his father died just over a year after Satin was born. He went on to marry a woman and the two had three children together.

“At age 54, Barbara took early retirement and then began to explore more fully her transgender identity,” Satin’s biography outlines. “With the support of her children and a knowledgeable therapist, Barbara came to understand that her transgender identity was how God had made her and rather than being a curse it could be a blessing in her life.”

“As a way to more fully explore her identity, she moved out of the family home to live full-time as Barbara,” it says.

He left his Roman Catholic upbringing for the United Church of Christ since Roman Catholicism does not affirm the transgender lifestyle.

Satin is now involved with a number of homosexual and transgender advocacy groups, and was invited to the White House earlier this year to speak to the Obama administration about housing issues for seniors who identify as homosexual or transgender. Currently, Satin serves as the Assistant Faith Work Director for the National LGBTQ Task Force.

On Thursday, Obama announced his intent to nominate 11 individuals to various administrative posts. Satin was included in the list as a member of the Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.

“Given the current political climate, I believe it’s important that a voice of faith representing the transgender and gender non-conforming community—as well as a person of my years, nearly 82—be present and heard in these vital conversations,” Satin said in a statement released by the United Church of Christ.

Included in the nominations for the council were Naseem Kourosh, the human rights officer at the U.S. Bahá’í Office of Public Affairs, and Manjit Singh, the co-founder and chairman of the board of directors of the Sikh American Legal Defense and Education Fund.

Thomas Reese, S.J., a senior analyst for the National Catholic Reporter, and Dr. John Ruskay, the executive vice president-emeritus of the United Jewish Appeal (UJA) Federation of Jewish Philanthropies of New York, were both appointed to serve on the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom.

“These fine public servants bring a depth of experience and tremendous dedication to their important roles. I look forward to working with them,” Obama said in a statement.

However, not all those who have struggled with gender identity believe that it is right to support and affirm a person’s desire to live as those of the opposite sex.

As previously reported, Walt Heyer, a 75-year-old man who obtained a sex change operation in the 1980’s to live as a woman for eight years before reverting back to his biological gender, now leads a ministry in which he shares his story with the world of how Christ redeemed his life and gave him hope.

“Nobody’s ever born a transgender,” he told the Daily Mail last January. “They’re manufactured as a result of something, a developmental childhood issue that has yet to be determined for many people.”

“All of them have some level of depression, and we’re not treating them,” Heyer lamented. “We’re just cutting off body parts and giving them a new name and a new gender.”

“God designed man; He designed women,” he also said in a video recorded last year. “God will redeem the lives of people who struggle with gender identity issues just like I did. He redeemed my life, and I’ve been free from it as a result of that.”

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Peter Leh

Thank you for your service Barbara Satin

Brad F

“Born gay.”

“Born male.”

You people can’t even be consistent.

TheBottomline4This

Confusion which is caused by satan contributes to that.

ComeOnPeople!

Yes and the TRUE GOD is not the author of confusion . HMMM

Peter Leh

who are “you people”?

The Last Trump

Actually Barbara didn’t serve.
It seems “Barabara” was “born” after HE married a real woman and FATHERED three children. And then retired from the Air Force.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

Barbara Satin serves Satan, …….as r most liberals.

http://www.moonbatdan.com/ Dan T

No such person exists.

TheBottomline4This

Poor Mr. Satin. You believe a fantasy. You were born a male and will die a male. You thinking otherwise says that you are emotionally/mentally unstable.

gizmo23

Thank you Dr. This for the insightful medical diagnosis. What a great power you have to see into people’s mind and heart

TheBottomline4This

You’re delusional on this issue Gizzy.

The Last Trump

Who needs to be a doctor to know a man when you see one?
For heaven’s sake, Giz! LOOK at the picture!! Yikes.
And HE did FATHER children, didn’t HE? FATHER.
I believe it was the authentic woman in the story (HIS wife) who can be credited with birthing them. When transgenders can do THAT, be sure to let me know please!
Until then, this is another sad case of mental illness and complete fantasy.

ComeOnPeople!

I am a woman and can prove it… I have a womb. That is reality. Just because a man puts on a dress, grows his hair long and wears makeup does not make him a woman. A woman has a womb… WHY because God created her to be with a man and to populate the earth. If in the beginning we only had all this nonsense going on, we would not have a world because no children would have been born. The UNION OF A MAN AND A WOMAN is what has populated the earth.

gizmo23

We Christians believe in a God that we cannot prove exists, some would call that fantasy. We get riled up if someone says we are mentally ill

TheBottomline4This

Don’t like it when your own words are thrown back at ya. I always have trans/gays say we who believe in God are believing in a fantasy.

gizmo23

That doesn’t make it right

ComeOnPeople!

A belief in a higher power or Creator has never been considered a mental illness. Men and women through out time have always believed in one God, many Gods or some even no God but themselves. A belief in God, Gods or Self is not a mental illness and has never been considered as such. Neither has a mans belief in a God, Gods or the denial of God ever been seen as fantasy because all those beliefs are probable or possible. A fantasy is imagining something that is impossible or improbable like being born with male parts and imagining you are a female. That is highly improbable without surgery and then still unlikely because even with surgery you still have hormones & DNA to deal with.

http://www.moonbatdan.com/ Dan T

LOL, “we”?

gizmo23

Believe what you wish

http://www.moonbatdan.com/ Dan T

I do, and I don’t need the permission or approval from the likes of you. Your delusion that Christians desire the approval of homosexuals has no relation at all to reality.

Brad F

Forgive me for stating the obvious: If you ever see before and after photos of trannies, they look even worse after their “transition.” The “before” photo may show someone who is average or homely, but the “after” photo is inevitably worse.

Isn’t it curious that liberals always insist that people should be accepted “as is” think it’s just great for an unattractive man should be encouraged to turn himself into a seriously unattractive woman?

gizmo23

So a person’s worth is based on their appearance, not qualifications or how they treat others?

Paige Turner

You gays judge people solely by appearance.

TheBottomline4This

…and because of their faith…and whether they will bake them the “couple” a cake…

Theodore Fenton

There is no “faith” that forbids the baking of cakes.

gizmo23

1. I am not gay.
2. You know nothing about me

Cady555

: the action of understanding, being aware of, being sensitive to, and vicariously experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another of either the past or present without having the feelings, thoughts, and experience fully communicated in an objectively explicit manner; also : the capacity for this

http://www.moonbatdan.com/ Dan T

If you don’t like what you read here, why do you troll? There’s lot of gay blogs where they all think just like you. You don’t want to stress yourself by stepping outside your echo chamber.

Cady555

Because it is healthy to listen to other points of view. We are all better off.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

It’s based on both n more. How do people choose their wife or husband.? Pls stop stereotyping other’s words.

gizmo23

I will continue to call it as I see it just like you do also

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

Like the devil, u r making false allegations n/or accusations by jumping into conclusions about others’ statements.

gizmo23

I can read what the guy wrote. He judges Satin on the way she looks only.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

Did he say that he does not judge Satin n others by their inner qualities.?
…….U r just jumping into conclusions, in order to attack others who disagree with u, just like the devil.

gizmo23

I don’t know what he does with other folks but he judged this person solely on looks

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

For him to judge Satin’s inner qualities, common sense says that it would hv taken him quite a lot of time n research. So, in the above case, he went by first impression, like most people do, ie by the appearance/looks of Satin.
…….Normally, it takes a lot of time, social interaction n asking around to judge a person’s inner qualities.

gizmo23

So a persons inner value is based on their looks. No point in finding out more before condemming them

Davaughn Wistrom

Obama might as well just hire satan himself as an adviser, because you can be sure he’s getting satanic advice. See, this is the agenda of the emergent movement. Include everyone for the sake of filling pews. preach a warm and fuzzy watered down gospel! Lord knows we wouldn’t want to offend anyone by telling them homosexuality is an abomination to our God, or that the one and only way to stay out of hell is to repent of our sins and surrender to Jesus 100%. These are the kinds of churches that believe it’s necessary to fit God into the times rather than the other way around which is just plain silly, because God is never changing. His will for us is exactly the same today as it was thousands of years ago. This is just another clue, even though Obama claims Jesus Christ is his Lord And Savior that proves Obama is just about as far from being a Christian as onte can ge.

Candace

This man has been active with the very liberal United Church of Christ, which recently published a report stating that they expect their membership to decline by 80 percent over the next 30 years. Isn’t it somewhat ironic that the churches that boast of being “inclusive” are all losing members instead of gaining?

1960: 2,056,000
2014: 979,000
More than half its members in 50 years, and they expect to decline even further. Don’t they realize they are driving the Christians away?

gizmo23

Many churches have seen this decline liberal and conservative

Candace

Not mine, we’re growing and have lots of teens and young adults. “All churches are declining” is a liberal lie.

gizmo23

I didn’t say all. However overall church attendance is down

TheBottomline4This

That is expected. Too many Churches have compromised and are watering down the Bible in order to appease people. When you do that, then you lose people
We have traveled a lot and there are many Churches that are doing it right, but the false or weak believer doesn’t want that kind of Church. They want the kind of church that tickles their ears and flesh. That is one reason why motivational speakers like Joel Osteen are so popular.

gizmo23

Perhaps people of tired of doom and gloom and the political nature church has become

TheBottomline4This

The Church we go to and the ones we have found when traveling that are good are not very political. I agree a lot of the other churches have become that. As for the doom and gloom…can you elaborate what you mean by that?

gizmo23

That the world is becoming worse and worse everyday and that the end is near. I heard the same fear mongering in 1969. Back then hippies were destroying the country, then it was blacks, Muslims, schools etc. It gets very tiresome and the chicken little stuff and wrong “prophecies turn people off IMO

ComeOnPeople!

The bible teaches HE could return any day but in actuality even if HE did not return for another thousand years it would still be a good practice to live as if HE were returning tomorrow. It’s about keeping your body under subjection so that when HE does return you are found faithful, not to mention that should you die before HE returns you died faithful to HIM and HIS ways and when HE returns and you stand before HIM you will be found faithful. It’s not about fear… it’s about a loving God who wants you to be with HIM again one day. Unlike man who accepts everything under the sun, GOD is HOLY and cannot fellowship with anything unholy. HIS word is the instruction manual that helps unholy man know what is HOLY and what is profane , what is clean or unclean.

gizmo23

Being ready is one thing spearding fear is another and certainly claiming a person has special insight into the furture is wrong

TheBottomline4This

One could say a person claiming they are the opposite gender/sex of what they were born and having special “insight” into that is wrong.

gizmo23

True. Point taken

ComeOnPeople!

The bible tells us that we are to warn those who are ungodly of the wrath that is to come. A warning is not given to scare them but to let them know that God’s word is true and that they need to come back to HIM and HIS ways before HE judges the whole world. As for predictions … the bible says no man knows the day or the hours of HIS return. All we have to go on is what HE said would come before HIS return and still we cannot know the day or the hour.

gizmo23

Those warning are most assuredly met to instill fear

ComeOnPeople!

I read those warnings and I’m far from being afraid. Fear is not of the LORD.

gogo0

of course not. for believers, doomsday grants them everlasting life and they welcome the end of the world.
pretty difficult to rationalize doomsday and the talk on this board and elsewhere of god’s cleaning fire as anything other than a threat to non-believers, though. it’s meant to scare them into believing so they can avoid such a terrible fate.

ComeOnPeople!

NOPE wrong GOD does not want you to love HIM out of FEAR. No more then you want people around you to love you out of fear. HE loved you enough to die and make a way to redeem you back to HIMself. HE loves all HIS creation and does not want any to perish that is why HE gave us HIS word. As Creator HE cannot allow HIS creation to stay in a fallen state and so HE must purge the earth of wickedness one day. But just like in the days of Noah HE gave mankind ample warning for years and years before the actual destruction came. It’s not about fear it’s about love and returning to your creator so that you can be free of pain, sorrow, death, sin and all the other things that were never meant to be a part of life.

gizmo23

Fear seems ti be the basis of most Christian thought. Fear of Satan, hell, other cultures and lifestyles. Fear is stirred up from the pulpit at just about every church. I don’t agree with it but that seems to be the way. It’s a major focus of political Christians also

Peter Leh

“Fear seems ti be the basis of most Christian thought. Fear of Satan,
hell, other cultures and lifestyles. Fear is stirred up from the pulpit
at just about every church. I don’t agree with it but that seems to be
the way. It’s a major focus of political Christians also”

It is certainly a control mechanism of the church.

notice just a mere disagreement with conservative Christians on my part bring out all kinds of accusations about me.

gizmo23

No kidding ! Disagree and you get slammed and called all kinds of names even if you are respectful

Diggur

I haven’t seen anyone on here slamming you and calling you names. Disagreeing with you is not slamming you. They’re trying to tell you what motivates them and how they feel.

gizmo23

Not here so much, but on other sites yes. I have been called names and been accused of horrible things here

Diggur

That’s never the way to handle a discussion. But there are always people – on both sides – who do not understand that concept. Ignore them. Names wont hurt you and reacting to that kind of person will only justify their narrative.

ComeOnPeople!

SPAMMING . My posts are being flagged and deleted. Not slamming but being called SPAM.

ComeOnPeople!

The Creator gave an instruction manual that teaches us how to draw towards HIM and back to our original state before sin entered this world. God is HOLY and HE cannot fellowship with man who has fallen from his original state so HE instructs man on how to draw close to a HOLY GOD but man broke this covenant that he made with GOD after that he said he would be faithful to it. Therefore finding fault with them GOD was manifested in the flesh so that HE could redeem man back unto HIMSELF. HE did this by not only becoming the sacrifice that was required for the remission of our sins but also to send back the promises of the new covenant of a heart change. HE promised to write HIS LAWS upon our hearts so that we would desire to serve HIM. The instructions of GOD are not hard, they are not about fear . A reverent fear is what the word of GOD is talking about. Just like a son fears a good father not in a doom and judgement kind of fear but in reverence because he knows his father is good. Our Father in heaven is a righteous KING who judges righteously. People all serve someone in this world whether they care to admit it or not. I along with others choose to serve a righteous KING because not only does HE never change but HE KEEPS HIS promises, unlike men who one minute do what is right and the next do wrong, who change like the tide and are unfaithful to their word. Men have the best of intentions but the CREATOR’s WORDS never faith. At the end of my life I do not fear judgement for I know what ever judgement is passed upon me I deserved whether unto death or unto eternal life for HE is a RIGHTEOUS JUDGE.

ComeOnPeople!

How was talking about God on a Christian web site Spam and deleted. This is growing old. They tell you it’s okay to post here and then they delete anything that does not match their or the majorities views over and over.

ComeOnPeople!

What are you afraid of… why do you spam truth. I have noticed if I patty cake and am vague in my speech that my posts remain but should I be forthright and speak plainly about truth then they are flagged and removed . I find it quite amazing that a person who loves God and honors HIS word is considered intolerant & their words are deleted by those who disagree with them. Who then is intolerant I ask you.

Where do you go to church? I have never attended a church that preached that we should fear other cultures and lifestyles. In fact, our Lutheran church preaches that we should love everyone. We send missionaries all over the world to bring the good news to other cultures. Loving others means treating them with respect whether you agree with their lifestyle choices or not. You don’t have to agree with other people in order to love and respect them. You’re listening to stereotypes. True Christian churches teach the word of God. Fear? Yes, we should fear Satan and w should fear sin because they can separate us from eternal life. But that’s no different than fearing that you’re going to be in a car accident, or fearing that someone will break into your home. It’s natural and intelligent to fear things that can hurt you and have a detrimental effect on your life. Churches are preaching hope and salvation. If your church is preaching something different, then maybe you should look for another church.

gizmo23

I grew up Lutheran also. I’m trying to find one now. Very few churches where I live

gizmo23

To people on the outside it is pure fear mongering and those are the ones you are trying to reach

LadyFreeBird♥BlessedBeTheLord

Amen.

PastProdigal

Exactly.

http://www.moonbatdan.com/ Dan T

Like AGW, which is the paranoid nerdy liberals’ mythology.

gizmo23

AGW ?

LadyFreeBird♥BlessedBeTheLord

Anthropogenic global warming?

PastProdigal

Then you need to examine how close you really are to Him. Because calling Bible Prophecy “fearful” is calling 1/3 of the Bible, which God put there to prove He is the Author and Creator, something that is insulting to Him. Prophecy should instill you with gladness and joy. If you are holding onto this world too much, it’s time to realize, we don’t belong to the world. We in it but are not supposed to be of it.

gizmo23

To tell people they need to believe or they will be tortured for all time is a fearsome thing especially to children. My preacher even does it.
Street preachers usually start out with talking about eternal damnation

WorldGoneCrazy

And the end really IS near, for each one of us – our lives are so incredibly short – in the cosmic sense.

Deborah

Not entirely, we know the season. We know it’s spring because of the signs around us, warmer weather, trees and plants awakening. God gave many signs for this end time season, it’s everywhere. Israel made a nation again, Hebrew language restored, heavenly signs and much much more.
We should know the season we are in.

PastProdigal

Teaching prophecy is not spreading fear. I suggest you do some soul-searching and examine your walk with Him. If you can read and watch the news and see what is going on and not realize that this nation is in dire trouble, and that Bible Prophecy is being fulfilled daily, and continue to deny it, something is amiss. The fulfillment of prophecy should be exciting o you, not fearful. It means it won’t be long until we see Him.

gizmo23

Please tell me how many end of the world prophecies have come true. That is what I’m talking about

Alvin Chipmunk

I agree 120 percent!

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

Do u think the world is getting better n better everyday, wrt American morals n the US economy.?

gizmo23

Yes I do. I think we live in very moral times and we are the richest people on the planet. Far better in both areas than we were 75 or 50 years ago

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

Then, u must be living in a lie to say that we r the richest on the planet bc the US govt or taxpayers r US$19+ trillion in debt. That’s $19,000,000,000,000. This level of debt is very likely non-sustainable, ie a credit default ill be inevitable.
…….U r like a bankrupt 50 Cents or Wesley Snipes claiming to be very rich. Many US young workers r deeply mired in student loans. U r not rich if u r living on borrowed money.

We still have one of the highest standards of living in the world, no one is straving, and almost all get medical care and education. HIV, STDs, are not rampant

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

USA n taxpayers r like a worker earning $30,000 a year but spending $36,000 or more yearly, n so has accumulated a credit card debt of $190,000 in the last 30 years. This debt has kept on growing non-stop.
…….IOW, USA n taxpayers hv been living beyond their means or irresponsibly, n a day of reckoning will come, eg when the source of loans/debts dries up.
…….This is similar to the recent case of a “poor” university student in Australia being mistakenly credited with about US$3 million in overdraft by her bank. She was living rich n high standards for about 3 years b4 being arrested n charged in court.

I don’t know how old you are, but we are definitely not better off than we were 50 or 75 years ago. Ask an older person, and listen to their answer. I’m 57, and when I was a kid we could run around freely without fear of being attacked or stolen. (And I grew up in LA.) Almost everyone could afford to buy a home, and people had a strong work ethic. Only one parent had to work to support the family, so the other parent could stay home and raise the children if they chose to do so. People helped one another. I could go on and on. We are most definitely NOT better off now.

gizmo23

I am 60 and times are much better now

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

U must be living in yr own little bubble or in delusion. Times r definitely not better for a 20 yo college student n a 30 yo employee.

gizmo23

If you look for bad you will find it. If you look for good you will find it. Simple Biblical principle

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

Seems, u r plain selfish n do not hv much compassion for the young folks who r experiencing the worse of times in this Satan-ruled world.

gizmo23

Conservative policies have made it tougher for everyone

Peter Leh

“Back then hippies were destroying the country, then it was blacks,
Muslims, schools etc. It gets very tiresome and the chicken little stuff
and wrong “prophecies turn people off IMO”

and it is so selfish and childish given the real persecution in other parts of the world.

but naw.. baking a cake is were the persecution is

PastProdigal

Wrong prophecies? You call Bible Prophecy, “wrong prophecies”? The Spirit of prophecy is the witness of Jesus. You’re calling that tiresome? Wow.
I was taught Bible Prophecy in the 60’s. I got away from God for many years. It was the awareness of the fulfillment of prophecy in the world and country that firmly planted me back among His people and I am so grateful for all those who were, and are, faithfully teaching Bible Prophecy, in spite of those who, apparently like you, do not understand it, or don’t want to, and want to hide their head in the sand.
There will always be a few here and there who teach incorrectly, but to throw the whole of prophecy out-one-third of the Bible-wow!

gizmo23

I did not throw all prophy out the window but trying to determine signs of the end is folly

PastProdigal

Churches better wake up and get a whole lot more involved in politics before we lose what’s left of the country. We’re asleep and losing America on our watch.
I praise God for every pastor that is aware of the horrible decline in our culture and government, our loss of freedoms, and is making his congregation aware!

Drummer1969

I personally don’t recall any “doom & gloom.” lol

http://www.moonbatdan.com/ Dan T

These trolls have never even met an evangelical, much less set foot in an evangelical church. They have no actual experience, just stereotypes from 50 years ago. It’s truly amazing that with so many millions of evangelicals in the US, liberals never actually interact with them.

Amos Moses

Perhaps ………. but it is not true …….. what has happened is apostasy ,,,,, the abandonment of truth …….. and people know when they are being lied to ………..

Peter Leh

“Perhaps people of tired of doom and gloom and the political nature church has become”

yep

PastProdigal

Churches are supposed to be involved in politics and the culture. There are way too many who are still asleep. That’s why we have the mess we do in this country. We are losing America on our watch. One minister said that he was told that Congress feels the Church no longer has their back. We’ve checked out, at least, many Christians have. And we are losing the country. As far as, “doom and gloom”, I hope you aren’t calling the study of prophecy doom and gloom. First, not enough churches teach that any more either, and since the Spirit of prophecy is the witness of Jesus, it’s highly insulting to Him when people call prophecy, “doom and gloom”. Prophecy is hope, and looking forward to His Return.

gizmo23

I don’t want my faith in politics and a certainly don’t want my government involved in my church. That sword cuts both ways. I have no right to tell others how to live nor do I believe God cares as to what we do as a nation. I’m relationship with God is personal not public or political

ComeOnPeople!

Most true studiers of the bible no longer practice organized religion. They see just how far the church strayed from what the early believers practiced and how far they have strayed from the ways of God.

TheBottomline4This

Yes!!

WorldGoneCrazy

This is true – many of the best Christians “church” on the streets and in homes, because the local churches have sold out to money.

ComeOnPeople!

Yes this is why many people are going back to home bible studies and people are coming from all different sects of religion. We have had up to 25 at a time from ever religious sect imaginable . All just wanting to study God’s word and learn HIS ways.

Alvin Chipmunk

I definitely agree. The original Christians centuries ago, didn’y worship inside a church building. They met in informal surroundings and praised God and followed Him faithfully.

ComeOnPeople!

We are called to be the body of Messiah. Hard to be the body in churches because most people only go there out of duty and not out of purpose. They go, sit and leave , seldom talking about the things they just heard read from scripture. The true body knows that every person is needed and valued to function , therefore they confess faults, they lift each other up and they nurse back to health any part that is wounded. They have problems also but they have a deep commitment to bind together and be used within the body. The study of HIS WORD is amazing because all participate and can talk about things they did not understand or express what they think the passages mean. The unity and love in home churches in beyond anything we have ever seen in church and we use to attend an amazing church. So I’m not bashing our church but saying that we were traveling this road and the LORD said to exit and we could not go against HIM. That exit has been hard at times because religion offered us a box to live in. Relationship with GOD and the body has removed the box and set us back in HIS WORD. We find things that were spoken of as sin, GOD never forbid those things but the church did, things that the church celebrated and accepted, GOD never allowed and was displeased. That box may feel comfortable and it’s so much easier but I wouldn’t change leaving that box for all the acceptance or comfort the church offered. Far better to be accepted by GOD and know a peace that passes all understanding.

Deborah

I don’t know where you are going to church, my Church is growing strong and fast. We are a WORD and SPIRIT Church. The problem with Church today is many have denied the power and presence of the Holy Spirit. A Church without solid Word and the Holy Spirit is useless and dead.
God never instituted home groups as the norm. The early church met in homes but came together as a congregation. It’s obvious in the epistles and Revelation, the Church was addressed as a whole, not this house group or that house group. Paul’s letters addressed the Church at Corinth, Ephesus etc.
God gave the five fold ministries which includes the Pastor for the maturing of the saints, home group cannot offer that.
The Word also speaks a warning of not forsaking of your assembling together. The Word of God is very clear that this false teaching would happen in these end times and the straying from God’s Word would happen but far to many of His children are just to lazy to see it.
But I do believe many will come to the knowledge of the truth and the right churches will be flooded with strong people of God for this last move. Hallelujah!

PastProdigal

I agree that the important part is allowing the Spirit to move, which most “traditional” churches are still lacking in. But if someone can’t find an on-fire, Spirit-filled church to attend, then home groups are just fine. The Church is not the building. We are the Church. Where we are, the Church is. And the Spirit can move in small groups. As we approach end times with persecution against Christians growing in this country and our Christian rights being taken away more and more, we will see more home groups, especially where people live who don’t have strong, Bible and Spirit teaching churches near them. Those in home groups are still, “gathering together”. That simply means getting together with other Christians to study the Bible, learn and worship. Look at what goes on in communist and muslim countries where home groups is all they have.

WorldGoneCrazy

If your thesis were true, then the many house churches and churches conducted in woods and in secrecy, even in prisons, around the world would be false. But, they are not. They are all assembling together – they do not need American Churchianity to water down their faith.

Many pastors in America are unsaved – they serve their collection plates, not God. I frequently witness to “pastors” who believe it is fine to be pro-abortion, or that we are not to discern good from evil. Many of these “pastors” are as unsaved as I was when I was an atheist. My heart weeps for their congregations.

https://disqus.com/home/channel/thebanhammer/ ThePhoenixRises

Considering how many “spirit-filled” churches there are ( that can’t agree on what the Bible says or on a single interpretation) perhaps your celebration is — premature.

Deborah

You obviously know nothing about being led by the Holy Spirit. My Pastor nor our church is lead by another churches doings or teaching. He and we are lead by the Spirit of the Living God, there is no confusion there but there is a whole lot of maturity.

https://disqus.com/home/channel/thebanhammer/ ThePhoenixRises

Right. That’s why there are 30,000 differently believing churches at last count. The People’s Temple and the Branch Davidians both claimed the same thing.

We all know how **that** turned out.

Deborah

When someone stands in a garage and calls himself a car you know he is not a car. He does look like a car nor drives like a car or in anyway shape or form act like a car. The peoples temple and branch davidians did not from day one act like nor operate like they knew the Lord or His Word. The result is very clear.
The proof is in the outcome don’t you think.

https://disqus.com/home/channel/thebanhammer/ ThePhoenixRises

And they are that different from you exactly how? They described their pastor and group in the same way you did.

happylada

Are you deliberately obtuse?

https://disqus.com/home/channel/thebanhammer/ ThePhoenixRises

Ah a true believer!

LMAO 😂

Deborah

As for the 30,000 believing Churches so what. I don’t live in Texas so I can’t be part of John Hagee’s Church just because of geography. I do believe in the baptism of the Holy Spirit and Baptist don’t, so what. Do you think God considers all the differences or He looks at the heart of man when standing before Him. Do think He pulls out a filing cabinet and says oh look here at all your imperfect behaviour or does He look at the fact that you have truly received His Son.
I don’t concern myself with the other 30000 churches many of them will come to the truth because God loves His children unto death. Just keep in mind all that He has done, keep your eyes on Jesus not man not denominational divisions. When you stand before He will careless about your denomination and more about your personal devotion to Him.

https://disqus.com/home/channel/thebanhammer/ ThePhoenixRises

Hagee? ROFL 😂

happylada

Really? Why the unfounded animosity?

https://disqus.com/home/channel/thebanhammer/ ThePhoenixRises

How do you know it’s “unfounded”?

Wishful thinking out loud?

donna

Amen. We will be judged by what is in our hearts not by our works. But still as I stated before, Christ said where there are two or more of you gathered I will be there.

happylada

BUT we are also called to assemble ourselves together; we are also expected to have a pastor over us and he should expect to get paid for his preaching. It takes more than a couple of people to pay a pastors salary. It takes more than two or three, for the gifts of the Spirit to have an opportunity to manifest and bless the church.

THOSE who frequently claim they are so wise in the words of scripture seem to simply ignore what doesn’t agree with them

happylada

Your question demonstrates your illiteracy. For example my father’s PERSONALITY preferred no instruments in church. I like my services loud and celebratory. So does GOD 😉 at least that’s what he ordered in the OT temple.

YOUR intransigence and obvious sense of superiority make no room for the wide variety of styles, preferences and objectives that make up a wide variety of churches.

Your deliberate confusion created by your selection of the most extreme outliers shows your inability to see the wider Church of GOD, the bride of Christ.

Pity . . .

https://disqus.com/home/channel/thebanhammer/ ThePhoenixRises

How long did it take you to look up all those big words in your thesaurus?

happylada

How long did it take you to look up their meaning?

https://disqus.com/home/channel/thebanhammer/ ThePhoenixRises

I learned them in HS. Too bad you dropped out.

happylada

Sorry you could NOT go further. I graduated from university as a high school TEACHER and also taught college.

Now what more childish comments would you like to make? Maybe you could actually address the issue?

https://disqus.com/home/channel/thebanhammer/ ThePhoenixRises

Sorry, your replies contradict that claim.

Too bad, so sad–
Really sucks to be you.

donna

Christ said wherever two of you or more are gathered, I will be there. One does not have to be in a designated domination building to have Church and study scripture. In fact, in the last days scripture teaches that preachers will reel to and fro with drunkenness and many will be deceived in the “Churches” because many will be in an apostate state. This started while Christ was still walking the earth as he warned his apostles to beware that the deceptions had already began. If you are feeling the Holy Ghost moving thru your sermons and your Preacher is teaching scripture, all scripture, then you are very blessed. There really aren’t many left just as scripture says there will only be a small remnant in the last days. God bless you and your family.

Tonya Ifill

I agree with you Deborah completely. My church is called Church of God the Bibleway and it’s flourishing because the many souls that are coming in hungry for the true Word of God and not this watered down mess just to please the majority. That’s why God said many are called but few are chosen. I love my Pastor Bishop Ira J. McCloud because he doesn’t preach for money but cares about souls being delivered and saved. Most of churches nowadays don’t have no Power!

Peter Leh

yep

donna

Although I miss the weekly fellowship of Church, this is where I am at. I cannot sit in the pews of a Church that distorts scripture to suit political correctness, not to mention few teach about the Enemy and his dominions any more which leaves those untaught weak to spiritual attack and temptation. Many are teaching grace theology that teaches the Ten Commandments no longer apply, which is blasphemy since Christ said many times if we love Him and the Father we will keep His Law. They also teach the pre-trib rapture theory which is not sound scripture. I don’t know when Christ is returning and we will be taken up to meet him, but I do know from reading Thess. II, that it will not be until after certain prophecy is fulfilled and one being the Anti-Christ will commit the abomination of desolation along with the torture and maryterdom of Christians. So those thinking they are going to escape the tribulation are being deceived. Scripture teaches us that in the last days there will only be a small remnant that will seek and know the truth of Scripture. I believe we are in those days and that remnant does not belong to any organized “religious” denomination. In fact Scripture says all churches will be in apostate state and the preachers will real to and fro with drunkenness and many will be deceived. May we all pray for the strength we will need to endure to the end. Christ please come soon.

TheBottomline4This

There are some Biblical Churches that have their sermons on line. Even though it’s not the same thing, hearing good sermons is a blessing.

ComeOnPeople!

Yes … Watch WORST THAN WAR documentary. People are being conditioned to think of Christians as destroying progress and hindering peace. They will kill us thinking they are doing God a favor. They will do just as they have done in the past but this time it is going to be huge.

ComeOnPeople!

Yes and scripture tells us that there will be those who will not join the one world church or one world government. It tells us in revelations that the dragon goes after only one body of believers … > those who KEEP the COMMANDMENTS of GOD and the Testimony of YESHUA the Messiah (JESUS Christ )

Ephesians 6:10-18

Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be ABLE TO STAND against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against FLESH AND BLOOD, but against PRINCIPALITIES , against POWERS, against the RULERS OF THE DARKNESS of this world, against SPIRITUAL WICKEDNESS in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be ABLE TO WITHSTAND in the evil day, and having done all, to STAND.

Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with TRUTH, and having on the breastplate of RIGHTEOUSNESS ; And your feet shod with the preparation of the GOSPEL OF PEACE; Above all, taking the shield of FAITH, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of SALVATION, and the sword of the SPIRIT , which is the WORD OF GOD:

PRAYING ALWAYS with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all PERSEVERANCE and SUPPLICATION for all saints;

happylada

And HOW did you get:

“Yes and scripture tells us that there will be those who will not join the one world church or one world government. It tells us in revelations that the dragon goes after only one body of believers … > those who KEEP the COMMANDMENTS of GOD and the Testimony of YESHUA the Messiah (JESUS Christ )”

from those verses you cited?

Using the Scripture to support your preconceived concepts should at least use scripture roughly talking about the same thing . . .

ComeOnPeople!

Rev. 12 : 17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Psalms 103:17-18 But the mercy of the Lord is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children’s children; To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them.

Romans 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Luke 8:21 And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.

John 7:16-17 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

1 John 2:3- 6 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

Deuteronomy 5:29 O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever!

1 John 5:2-3 2 By this we know that we love the children of God, WHEN we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

2 John 6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

2 John 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

Matthew 7:21-23 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity (lawlessness).

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Ambulance Chaser

Yes, if there’s one thing people hate it’s when you try to please them. The only way to make people come back to church is to take all the fun out of it. I’m sure they’ll come back on droves then.

Jane Doe

You nailed it…

PastProdigal

Spirit-filled churches are booming.

gogo0

it’s not a liberal lie, it’s just your inability to read

Peter Leh

in general most of the growth is at the expense of other congregation… not revival, not conversion.

Steve Meyers

Many churches have atheists as senior pastor. Just look at Andy Stanley.

Ashleigh Long

I was baptized and raised in the UCC. I find it disgusting that the UCC is condoning this crap in lieu of standing on the principles of the Bible and preaching it! It’s not in the Bible!

WorldGoneCrazy

The UCC, especially in many blue northern states, is quite apostate and has been for decades. I won’t speak of the state I am most familiar with, but the UCC needs to be evangelized there.

Interestingly, in some southern red states, some UCC churches have not left the rails. Sort of like the UMC.

Jamie

Deuteronomy 22:5 ESV / 165 helpful votes

“A woman shall not wear a man’s garment, nor shall a man put on a woman’s cloak, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God.

Galatians 3:28 ESV / 111 helpful votes

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Romans 1:24-32 ESV / 61 helpful votes

Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. …

Deuteronomy 23:1 ESV / 60 helpful votes

“No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord.

Matthew 6:25 ESV / 59 helpful votes

“Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing?

Matthew 19:12 ESV / 53 helpful votes

For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let the one who is able to receive this receive it.”

Genesis 5:2 ESV / 51 helpful votes

Male and female he created them, and he blessed them and named them Man when they were created.

Matthew 7:1 ESV / 44 helpful votes

“Judge not, that you be not judged.

Genesis 1:27 ESV / 43 helpful votes

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

Psalm 139:13-16 ESV / 30 helpful votes

For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them.

Leviticus 18:22 ESV / 22 helpful votes

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Matthew 19:4-6 ESV / 19 helpful votes

He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”

1 Corinthians 11:14-15 ESV / 14 helpful votes

Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him, but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering.

Matthew 5:44-45 ESV / 12 helpful votes

But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.

Mark 10:4-9 ESV / 11 helpful votes

They said, “Moses allowed a man to write a certificate of divorce and to send her away.” And Jesus said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart he wrote you this commandment. But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh. …

1 Corinthians 6:9-20 ESV / 9 helpful votes

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. “All things are lawful for me,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful for me,” but I will not be enslaved by anything. “Food is meant for the stomach and the stomach for food”—and God will destroy both one and the other. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. …

Matthew 9:13 ESV / 6 helpful votes

Go and learn what this means, ‘I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.’ For I came not to call the righteous, but sinners.”

Romans 8:1 ESV / 5 helpful votes

There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

Jeremiah 17:9 ESV / 4 helpful votes

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?

Romans 1:32 ESV / 3 helpful votes

Though they know God’s decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

Deuteronomy 22:1-25:19 ESV / 3 helpful votes

“You shall not see your brother’s ox or his sheep going astray and ignore them. You shall take them back to your brother. And if he does not live near you and you do not know who he is, you shall bring it home to your house, and it shall stay with you until your brother seeks it. Then you shall restore it to him. And you shall do the same with his donkey or with his garment, or with any lost thing of your brother’s, which he loses and you find; you may not ignore it. You shall not see your brother’s donkey or his ox fallen down by the way and ignore them. You shall help him to lift them up again. “A woman shall not wear a man’s garment, nor shall a man put on a woman’s cloak, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God. …

Isaiah 56:4-5 ESV / 2 helpful votes

For thus says the Lord: “To the eunuchs who keep my Sabbaths, who choose the things that please me and hold fast my covenant, I will give in my house and within my walls a monument and a name better than sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name that shall not be cut off.

2 Corinthians 3:17 ESV / 1 helpful vote

Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

1 Corinthians 6:2-6 ESV / 1 helpful vote

Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life! So if you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who have no standing in the church? I say this to your shame. Can it be that there is no one among you wise enough to settle a dispute between the brothers, but brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers?

Mark 10:6-9 ESV / 1 helpful vote

But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”

Muriel Katz

Thank you for sharing all of this. ❤
Anyone who reads what God Has Written can never again say “I didn’t know”. And those who have not read God’s Word still have the conscience that God Gave us all…a conscience that ‘nags’ at us when we’re doing wrong. Sadly, many today are busy justifying their sinful nature and beating their conscience into ‘submission’.

God has given us a Gift that can help people heal and give them peace and joy concerning Life here on Earth…as well as after we die:

John 3:16 says “For God so loved the World that He gave His only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in Him shall NOT perish but have Everlasting Life”.

Jesus died on that cross in your and my place, and paid the price for our sins so you and I wouldn’t have to.

When Jesus rose from the dead three days later and showed Himself to his disciples, He proved that He had overcome Death…which is eternal separation from God.

When you accept Jesus as your substitute on that cross, you are Born Again spiritually. The cost of your sins have been paid, and you are now a child of God. It is up to you to then read and obey God’s Word and to confess any sins you do as you follow Christ.

Linda League

The article says that he came to understand that God made him this way……as though God would be confused about the sex he was creating???

TheBottomline4This

That is always a lie. God did not MAKE them that way…they did that themselves. There is always a reason. Bruce revealed his. “Laverne” Cox revealed his. It’s there and deep down inside they know.

The Last Trump

Seems like God did just fine.
This MAN, sure enough knew to marry an actual woman and had the uniquely male ability to fertilize eggs, resulting in three children.
Two eggs just can’t do THAT, I’m afraid.
Male he is.

singingsoprano

There are quite a few people born with ambiguous genitalia (he genitals may not be well-formed or the baby may have characteristics of both sexes. The external sex organs may not match the internal sex organs or genetic sex.) soo….by design? by confusion? by biological accident?

So, I don’t want to say God was confused–but either God is ok with the ambiguity, or this is sloppy work, or the idea that God knits us together is poetic, and most of our creation/development is biological rather than supernatural, and therefore sometimes there are natural occurring differences in the binary gender system.

The only question beyond if the sex organs can differ from brain wiring…that one is harder to prove, but I’d suggest that if the external can be at odds, there’s no reason to deny that we don’t understand what we can’t see, and that they might have some non-sin-related reason for being spiritually/mentally at odds from their manifestation of their visible sex characteristics.

Michael Malosky Jr

Your post went over so many heads at once, most likely someone will claim it was a UFO! Thank you for posting something coherent and (hopefully?) layman in what should be a pretty non-controversial subject; I say “should be,” since a basic understanding of biology, heredity and genetics is missing from an alarmingly huge chunk of the American populace.

Reason0verhate

Is the internet censored?
Supposedly you can find any information on the web, and yet so far none of the search engines will pull up a site that reveals this MAN’S real name. Obviously HE hasn’t revealed it himself in his interviews, but why are journalists (including Christians/conservatives) laying down on the job? This guy’s birth record (born in 1934, he says) ought to be available somewhere. He’s using a fake last name as well as first name, but surely some web geek can find this information, somewhere. Looks like we’re in USSR mode, airbrushing history.

Marshall P

An article on Breitbart says his first name is David, but no last name. I think it’s pretty certain that “Satin” is fake. Why would anyone who names himself “Satin” be taken seriously? Drag queens make up goofy sounding names.

scottrose

Is it October already?

LadyFreeBird♥BlessedBeTheLord

I wish it was January 2,2017.

gizmo23

What happens on January 2?

LadyFreeBird♥BlessedBeTheLord

((November 8-9th)) (November 20th) But I still wish it was “January 2nd”

LadyGreenEyes

Assuming we actually get an election. Some days, I wonder….

David

False teachers deceiving already delusional minds. Without repentance of their sins it’s a two way ticket! First after death it’s to the White Throne Judgement then the next stop is the all consuming lake of fire for eternity. I pray that people’s eyes & hearts are opened and accepting of Gods truths since they are absolute.

ComeOnPeople!

So let me get this straight. All this pushed Transgender propaganda in the media is not harmful and yet this man has a life up until he is 54 before he starts out on his fantasy of being a woman . WHAT! Sorry if you enlisted as a man in the military , married a woman as a man, was able to place sperm in your wife’s womb as a man and have three children because you were able to preform as a man… then you are a MAN. NOW you have a wife and 3 kids that are dealing with a dad and husband who is no longer himself but a woman? And they say this new identify with something other then reality doesn’t hurt anyone ? RIGHT! It destroys the family unit and that is exactly what the LGBT has in it manifesto. They can repackage it in a fancy religious dress but it will remain the same old hag wearing that new dress.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

U must remember that there were sodomy laws in USA prior to 1970 b4 the liberal Blue States began abolishing them, in order to pander for the LGBTQ-vote. So, prior to 1970, most LGBTQs were hiding in the closet, eg Rock Hudson. Hence, he lived like a normal family man n had to keep it a secret till he was 54 = in 1988.

ComeOnPeople!

No he could have kept it a secret easily by NOT joining with a woman and birthing children if HE truly felt HE HIMSELF were a woman. This society is catering to every fantasy that comes into a persons thoughts and therefore men are now acting upon those fantasies . When a society accepts immorality men begin to act upon thoughts they once deemed immoral. Everyone has thoughts that are against the ways of God but in a moral society they never act upon them. WHY? Because in a moral society people think about how their actions will affect those around them and society as a whole.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

No, in those days, (= pre-1970) when a man is past 30 yo n still unmarried without any good reason, people would start suspecting LGBTQ’ism = become socially ostracized n disadvantaged, eg might not hv been promoted in his/her job. Marriage n kids acted as a cover for such LGBTQs to climb the social ladder.

Muriel Katz

Poppycock. Many men ‘climbed the ladder’ just fine without being married and having kids. Being known as a Confirmed Batchlor or a Playboy didn’t hurt the guys one bit…unless they hung out with other guys who had ‘limp wrists’. And then it’d be the limp wrists that hurt them. Not their marital status.

People used to be more discreet, went to church more, and gave a darn about what was wrong & right. Today ‘anything goes’, and the Gay Community doesn’t give a darn about anyone’s beliefs but their own. Think they do? Then you haven’t seen their parades where they prance around almost necked, spit on cops, and mock Jesus’s having been nailed on the cross.

What a ‘great’ society to raise our kids in, now.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

Like I said, in those days, being a Confirmed Bachelor or Playboy was a good reason for a man who was past 30 yo to stay unmarried, but not for being an LGBTQ.
…….Other good reasons r being infertile/barren, suffering from erectile dysfunction, being born an eunuch, being disabled, very poor, unpleasant-looking, mentally-disabled, etc.

gogo0

i dont know if this had anything to do with his decision to come out, but the guy was in the air force. you either dont know anything about military culture or your are ignoring it.

Gilchrist

Should be interesting with the Muslim outreach.

Nidalap

You’ll find that they are in favor of it…in Western nations, because they know it will lead to their downfall…

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

Since now LGBTQ’ism is also considered as a faith/religion, isn’t it against the US Constitution for the US govt to promote or favor the faith/religion of the LGBTQs, eg Obama’s pro-transgender bathroom laws.?
…….The US Constitution requires the separation of Church/religion n State.?.

ComeOnPeople!

The saddest thing about all this is the destruction of families. I have read of other families that are being torn apart by this and other sexual LIES. Another tragedy is to see men who once walked in there masculinity and were pictures of manhood & then buy into all this media perversion and become something their Creator never intended for them. LGBT people think Christians hate them but NO we cry out to God to open their eyes to see that the enemy of their souls has deceived them and they are believing a lie and will be damned. We want to see them free & not SLAVES to sin.

gizmo23

From their view and with what things are said about them gay people believe Christians hate them and that some wish they were dead.

This style ten and six

Does this surprise you? If I were gay I would feel very put off by the bile spouted by some, not all I am happy to say, Christians.

Grace Kim Kwon

Glad he did not claim to be 6-year-old and forced his way out into elementary school classes. What would the liberals do if some people identify themselves as dogs and cats and etc.? Today’s mad emperor is the thoroughly spoiled, well-fed mass. If Americans experience real hunger or real hardships, they would cease to be bored and have less number of this kind of self-imposed mentally ill patient. It must be hard for men to have everything and be manly at the same time. Immoral liberals must not rule over the Americans. USA needs Biblical principles to stay sane and well.

Chip01

I bet she will do a great job.

Nothing brings out the worse in people, than when they perceive someone else’s differences is a weakness.

Amos Moses

It is an illness……….. body dysmorphia………….

Chip01

What’s the illness for believing in imaginary beings?

TheBottomline4This

Provide your proof a man who thinks he is a woman…is a woman.
Provide your proof a woman who thinks she is a man…is a man.

Chip01

You want my proof.. Go speak to a person who is transgendered. They will actually speak to you… And will tell you about themselves. You will actually see and hear them, and learn from them.

You’ve never spoke to a transgendered person? And You condemn them all?

Now.. Provide your proof in the man up stairs…

Chip01

(Crickets?)

TheBottomline4This

You are a loon. I have spoken and know trans.
There was a time, not too long ago, when someone said something that was obviously not in the realm of reality, they would be given mental help.
Go to a mental institution and talk to the patients there and they will tell you many stories that they believe are true, but you would know aren’t.
Talking to a trans is not proof. Nice try though.

Chip01

Some of your best friends are transgendered, are they? Really?
You wanted proof. You spoke to a person who is transgendered, so you say, then you got proof. What better proof of existence than from the transgender person themselves?

Now… where is your proof?

((I know well enough when the name calling starts, it’s the sign the other guy has reached the end of his rope in the discussion. Usually around their 2nd or 3rd comment))

TheBottomline4This

I’m not calling you a loon. You are a loon.
Where do you get “best” friend from me saying I have spoken and know trans. One trans I have known since she was 10. We are friends, but not best friends. Her thinking she’s a guy doesn’t discount our friendship.
Talking to a trans is NOT proof that they are right.
Are you trans or have a loved one who is?

Chip01

Wait.

You’ve known someone who.. At 10 years old, identified themselves as transgendered…
How do you account for that, and then claim they don’t exist?

How long ago was this? Meaning, if she is 50 now, does that mean 40 years ago?
Where either of her parents transgendered?
40 years ago, I don’t think you can say TV planted this transgendered seed.. Nor can you say that socially she had it easy.. At 10.

And most importantly, are you using the “she” pronoun because that’s how she identified herself?

TheBottomline4This

You really are something. I never said they said they were trans at 10. I said I’ve known her since she was 10.
You will do better in life if you don’t put words in other people’s mouths.
Thank you for using her birth pronoun as I already mentioned she thinks she’s a he 🙂
She is 25 now. No her parents are not trans.
Your anger causes you to misread what IS shared with you. Here is what I said earlier loon…Her thinking she’s a guy doesn’t discount our friendship.
Maybe you should read things through things twice before you comment. You’re showing yourself to be questionable.

TheBottomline4This

What no reply Chippy?
Crickets.

Chip01

Maybe it was wishful thinking on my part, that someone who knew someone since 10… Would show compassion… My bad. Thanks for showing the true color of your nature.

TheBottomline4This

I show them compassion when it’s based on truth. When it’s based on a lie, I don’t enable that. Sorry you enable lies.

Chip01

Ok. So for a group of people who believe, well into adulthood, in a fairytale as tall as the Easter Bunny or Santa.. And having what proof of all their existence. … Actually talking to a person who is transgendered isn’t enough proof?

TheBottomline4This

It is not proof. Trans are mentally ill in thinking they are the opposite sex. Religious people don’t believe they are an opposite sex.
Are you trans?

Chip01

Well I think your credibility at this point is.. Zero.

Reviewing this :
Your BFF since 10 has told you they are transgendered, and therefore you have proof of their existence. You are able to learn that they are who they say they are.

But you continue to hang onto the idea that transgendered can’t be true, because YOU can’t comprehend it. One of your 5 senses can’t recognize it when it’s been there since the age of 10.

Now, add into this the fact that somehow the fairytale is a totally believable, having zero proof /offering zero proof. This IS something you can comprehend.

See what I’m saying? Perhaps you should quit now. This is at best circular… U have Zero credibility.

TheBottomline4This

You truly can’t read. I NEVER said this person was a best friend. She is a friend.
I can comprehend it silly. They can’t comprehend they are living a lie thinking they are the opposite gender they are and then living that lie.

Chip01

Then.. Are those who believe in the fairytale living a lie? And therefore deserve your pitchfork mentality raining down on them?

Btw – you’re not a very good bff if you don’t tell your friend how you really feel about him.

TheBottomline4This

She knows how I feel, but see, you are brainwashed and think since she knows that, she wants nothing to do with me. You would be wrong. Her knowing how I feel is a disagreement we have. If we really cared about each other to begin with, whatever happens after that doesn’t cancel that friendship.
If this works for you to disown someone because they disagree with you, then have fun with that. That’s not how it works. Disagreeing and still being friends should be part of being an adult. Or are you some high schooler who should be paying attention in class instead of doing this during school hours? Hmm.

Amos Moses

Are you a scientist………..

Chip01

No. But I’m not an idiot, either.

You seem to want to clinically diagnose people.. So what’s your diagnosis for people who believe in imaginary beings… For example, the Easter Bunny? People well past the age of 10.. All through their adulthood?

TheBottomline4This

So you can call others names like idiot, but I can’t call you a loon. Double standard much?

Chip01

Ah, where did I call someone an idiot?

Reading into text and extracting a different, self serving meaning, that is an art form left to a small group.

TheBottomline4This

You provide examples of this from you yourself.

Chip01

Like I said. At best 2 or 3 replies. Then nothing but crickets chirps

TheBottomline4This

You have provided no PROOF trans beliefs are real They are not. They are born the gender/sex they will die. They are the ones who cannot accept that. They are emotionally/mentally ill.
Who are you close to that is trans…sibling, parent? Are you trans?

Amos Moses

So where is your experiment to prove your hypothesis …………. and where are your results ……. negative results are still results …………… please tell us of your experiment and where it was peer reviewed and published …………

TheBottomline4This

Chippy uses the trans feelings as proof.

Chip01

Ah. Your diversion reply
A well known tacttic of the lost.

Amos Moses

So you have no experiment and no peer reviewed paper ………… i see ……….

scuffles

Why is Obama so obsessed with Homosexual/transgender rights? Could it be true as I’ve read that he himself is gay and maybe Michelle is indeed a transgender? I cant imagine why else he would be so obsessed with this.

TheBottomline4This

LOL. I’m not a fan of BHO’s, but he is not gay and Michelle is not a guy. That is a silly rumor.
There are some who support the latest perversion for political reasons or celebrity reasons, but in private don’t’ feel the same. BHO has changed his view, at least publicly, on abortion, gay marriage and trans. He is a politician, so not surprised.

Wow. It took you … 2 minutes to go from condemning someone else’s reply as an attack, to your own posting of an attack

Someone call Guiness.

Amos Moses

Truth is not an attack ………

youtube. Remove this space. com/watch?v=8cgk732vfGQ

Amos Moses

You are the one here doing the attacking ………. so maybe you could answer your own question……

That is not an attack ……….. that is asking you to answer your own question …..

Jolanda Tiellemans

Tinfoil hat tight enough for you?

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

Mainly bc of vote-pandering.

Chip01

Answer : Obama is for equality…

TallZeke

People who talk about “equality” 24/7 have an inferiority complex. If you thought you were really equal to normal humans, you wouldn’t run around screaming “We’re just as good as you!” People at peace with themselves don’t behave that way, they live life and don’t whine like 3rd grade girls.

Chip01

So. People who attack other people 24/7 by trying to taking away rights are what, then… Christian?

TheBottomline4This

If you think only the religious object to this trans stuff, then you must live in a bubble. There are plenty who are not religious and don’t support this trans stuff.

Chip01

Alliance Defending Freedom, a group who’s CEO is Allan Sear.
These are the folks who write these laws.
These are the folks funded by the religious right

http://www.moonbatdan.com/ Dan T

Wow, 6423 posts, and only 4658 upvotes.
You’ll have to do better than that if you want your PC merit badge.

TheBottomline4This

PC merit badge…LOL. Good one!

Gal 5:22-23

upvotes are how popular your comments are where they are left. it’s very unlikely any of the prophets would have had many upvotes either.

Amos Moses

“So. People who attack others 24/7 are what, then”

You are the one here doing the attacking ………. so maybe you could answer your own question……

Ambulance Chaser

If someone were taking my rights away, I’d absolutely fight for acceptance. And so would you.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

Yeah.! …….similar to the liberal Blue States giving ILLEGAL Hispanic/Mexican immigrants the right to drive, vote n get US citizenship since the 1960s.
…….Gays used to be charged with US anti-sodomy laws prior to the 1960s, so they cunningly hid in closets.

Gal 5:22-23

Laws against immigration are federal laws, not state. The FBI is completely free to go into states and arrest undocumented immigrants, the states have no obligation to use its resources to help them.

All this concern about people who came here to work and make a living (not so much any more) reminds me of what the rabbis said about the people of Sodom that lead to their destruction:

Babylonian Talmud Tractate Sanhedrin regarding the sins of Sodom:

They said: Since there come forth bread out of [our] earth, and it has the dust of gold, why should we suffer wayfarers, who come to us only to deplete our wealth. Come, let us abolish the practice of travelling in our land,

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

Fyi, Obama came from a liberal Blue State, similar to JFK, Nixon n Reagan. The liberals of the Blue States hv dominated the US Presidency since the 1960s by pandering to minority-votes, eg Hispanics, Blacks, unions, LGBTQs, feminists, etc. Hence, since the 1960s, the US Federal govt did not fully enforce Federal immigration laws against the mostly Hispanic/Mexican illegal immigrants.
…….And so in 2012, Obama gave ‘Amnesty’ to about 2 million young illegal immigrants.

Fyi, it is the INS who is in charge of Federal immigration laws, n not the FBI.
…….Oftentimes, it is the State police who apprehend illegal immigrants, eg for jaywalking, driving without a license, speeding, drug dealing, murder, etc, n the police r supposed to hand them over to the INS. In most liberal Blue States, the police do not apprehend illegal immigrants n hand them over to the INS, except for very serious crime, eg armed robbery n murder.

Most US citizens do not object to necessary legal immigrant foreign workers, eg under the H1-B work visa program for the high-tech sector. They object to illegal immigrants.

Ambulance Chaser

What on earth are you talking about and how is it relevant to this topic?

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

The LGBTQs had little rights until the liberal Blue States gave it to them. This happened bc the liberal Blue States began to pander for their votes in the 1970s by abolishing sodomy laws, in order to defeat the conservative Red States in national elections.
……. IOW, the liberal Blue States gave the rights to sodomize n marry to the LGBTQs, in exchange for their votes.

http://www.moonbatdan.com/ Dan T

Actually, gays, lesbians and trannies cannot reproduce, so they are not equal to normal people. Takes a man and woman to create a human life.

How old are you? Most 3rd graders know how babies are made.

TheBottomline4This

All people are normal people, some just have mental issues. There was a time when they had institutions for that. Now days it’s applauded by some and they don’t get the help they need. So sad and neglectful.

Gal 5:22-23

20% of people are functionally sterile, your standard has more exceptions to your standard than there are transgender people. Hypocrisy is one of the major complaints against Christians.

hypocrisy? Since you are pretending to be a Christian, I would say you have that title captured.

Gal 5:22-23

He ironically says as I am searching the house for the things I need at the display table for this weekend’s annual very much Christian state district church convention.

God’s armor shields me from your words like yours, the only person they hurt are you.

TheBottomline4This

Your god may, but not God.

Gal 5:22-23

More than happy to let God decide about that, not you.

TheBottomline4This

Your god will tell you whatever you want. God will deal with you unless you repent from being a pretender. As I’ve told you before, your words show you to be fake.

Gal 5:22-23

There is only one God, your own words reveal who the real fake is.

TheBottomline4This

It is true there is only one God. But given your views on some things and your replies to others, show you serve another god. Have a good day.

pslinger

“You shall know them by their fruit.”

Supporting and approving of sexual perversion and the rejection of God’s created order is rotten fruit. Call yourself whatever you want, but one day you will be called to acount, and the “Christian” facade you hide behind won’t mean squat then.

Gal 5:22-23

There is nothing ‘perverse’ about being transgender. And we will be judged by the mercy you show others James 2:12- you are the one I’m more concerned about before the Throne.

Reading that to a mirror would be more appropriate. You have no power here, get behind me.

pslinger

Get behind me? LOL! How old are you, 14, 15? I’m not here for power, I’m here for truth. And you can no more command me than you can change the truth. Only believers can command evil spiritual forces to stand down, and only then when they actually discern the activity of such forces. You qualify for neither of those criteria. Here is some truth for you: John 8:44 – Have a nice life as a pretender.

Gal 5:22-23

Yes the devil laughs, but he knows he’s defeated already. Get they behind me.

Gal 5:22-23

You realize John 8:44 is talking to everyone there, right? That his entire audience was bereft of the Spirit for it was before His Sacrifice for us?

And again, the unforgivable sin is denying of the Spirit as is often done here. I don’t know if that means they are damned now beyond redemption or not, I will continue dealing with them, loving and forgiving them, and leave that ultimate decision to God Almighty.

TheBottomline4This

Share a quote where someone has denied the Spirit on here?
What is your definition of denying the Spirit?

Gal 5:22-23

Saying someone with the Spirit is without it is all it takes.

How did Billy Graham put it when asked:

God alone knows a person’s heart, and only He knows if a person is sincere in their commitment to Christ or if they are only pretending to be His follower.

This is what Jesus meant when He warned His disciples, “Do not judge, or you too will be judged” (Matthew 7:1). Only God has the right to judge us concerning our eternal salvation, and ultimately we are accountable to Him alone. The Bible says, “There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you—who are you to judge your neighbor?” (James 4:12).

TheBottomline4This

The fact you quote Billy raises more flags.

“Saying someone with the Spirit is without it is all it takes.”
Wrong. That is not denying the Spirit.

I doubt you’ll say, but what denomination do you align with?

Gal 5:22-23

Of course I won’t because you won’t reveal yours. You forget we’ve seen this ruse of yours before which always leads to you declaring the object of your ire to not be a Christian.

And I used Billy Graham since this blog often quotes his son who quotes his father. Have a problem with the Grahams you probably have a problem with the board in general.

And saying someone with the Spirit isn’t a Christian is blasphemy against the Spirit that fills them, the unforgivable sin. Even Paul didn’t go around telling brothers and sisters they weren’t Christians even when he went so far as to have the congregation shun them.

TheBottomline4This

Of course I would reveal mine, but only after you do. I’ve got nothing to hide about it.
“we’ve seen this ruse of yours before which always leads to you declaring the object of your ire to not be a Christian” Sorry to say, but there are not many Churches that are truly Christian. But I wouldn’t expect you to understand that.
Some of Graham’s views are questionable.
I’m not going to continue to chat with you about what you think is “denying the Spirit”. It is very obvious you are either misinformed by your religion or are just plain blind to the truth.

Gal 5:22-23

Great, consider the topic dropped, anyone who thinks any church in this world is ‘truly Christian’ has a pretty low bar for what constitutes being Christian. We all fall far far short of the perfection a ‘truly Christian’ church would have.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

Maybe, he is also one of those liberal “Christian” homosexuals.

Gal 5:22-23

And that is very revealing – you use the term ‘Christian’ as the adjective showing where your obsession truly lies, in things of this world.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

They r just saying that u r not bearing the fruit of the HOLY Spirit when u say that homosexuality is not a sin of sexual immorality = the spirit of lawlessness. (MATT.7:15-23, GAL.5:19-23)

Gal 5:22-23

No, it’s just your mistaken that being gay is a sin. Sexual immorality is about sex as idolatry, which can and can’t be no matter the mortal body’s sexes can. in the next world there is no marry or marriage for anyone, all as the angels in heaven – same sex or no sex, it won’t make any difference then.

We’ll all love each other just as much no matter what our mortal sexes were. Until then those of us in the body of Christ aren’t concerned with sexes any more than we are about social status, or ethnicity. We are here to to strive to do as God asks of us, albeit poorly, in preparation for when He will, by His Grace, allow us to do it perfectly.

If you think that somehow is impossible because of something as inconsequential as a person’s having a ‘Y’ chromosome, which no one will have in the next life, you’re missing the forest for the trees.

God gave the ability to bind and loosen, particularly over things that don’t exist in heaven. As we have with social status, as we have for ethnicity, so we have with non-idolatrous sex between sexes.

Take care. God Bless.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

3 days ago, u wanted the Spirit to rebuke me. Now, u want God to bless me. ……. U r double-minded n hv a warped understanding of the Bible that is not from the Spirit of God.

PSA.119: =
113 I hate the double-minded,
But I love Your law.
114 You are my hiding place and my shield;
I hope in Your word.
115 Depart from me, you evildoers,
For I will keep the commandments of my God!
116 Uphold me according to Your word, that I may live;
And do not let me be ashamed of my hope.
117 Hold me up, and I shall be safe,
And I shall observe Your statutes continually.
118 You reject all those who stray from Your statutes,
For their deceit is falsehood.
119 You put away all the wicked of the earth like dross;
Therefore I love Your testimonies.
120 My flesh trembles for fear of You,
And I am afraid of Your judgments.

JAMES.4: =

7 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.

Gal 5:22-23

Do you know what rebuke is? The Spirit doesn’t rebuke someone, a person trying to get something through a thick skull does. I rebuked you because I think you are doctrinally wrong but at attached to your views as a leech to a leg – I was exhausted as your pedantic off topic reply reminds me of why I did it in the first place.

But I hope God blesses everyone – no one deserves His Grace and to deny the hope of its blessing to anyone would be major hypocritical on anyone’s part, especially me.

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Gal 5:22-23

Ah. I’m sorry, you are incredibly provocative if I said that. I repent my hostility and lack of love towards you. Only I rebuke your understanding.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

U r not really sorry since u r blaming me for provoking u to “mistakenly” want the Spirit to rebuke me. It’s like a murderer blaming the dead victim for provoking him/her to commit the murder.

…….Imagine the Pharisees saying a similar thing to Jesus Christ as they sent Him to be crucified.

Fyi, at JUDE.1:9, the archangel, Michael, could only counter Satan by saying, “The Lord rebuke u”. IOW, Michael, an archangel of God, could not not even rebuke Satan himself.

…….U r misunderstanding n misusing this verse when u apply it to yr dissenters by also saying to them, “The Lord rebuke u”.
…….Maybe, u r also “mistakenly” acting like the Lord when u go around rebuking others.

Gal 5:22-23

You aren’t very familiar with James it seems, that we can be provoked to salty speech is well know, and since you don’t know what I ‘really am’ I just think its hubris and unrighteous judgement on your part.

And since Paul talks of ‘gentle rebukes’ I get the clear feeling you are don’t know what rebuking is. Michael is an angel, a messenger of God – delivering God’s message.

But we’re done, you provoke me to sin, are blind to the Truth, and there is no benefit to continued discussion. I’m on my way. and will just have to remember NOT to read Disqus other than in the app.

(Odd they let you block users with the app but it doesn’t block them on the web – maybe a feature to come?)

God Bless and may the Spirit find you.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

U do not seem to understand what I was saying about JUDE.1:9 regarding “The Lord rebuke u”. It’s about spiritual power.
…….Let me give u an analogy. As an ordinary citizen, u do not go around rebuking the police officers when stopped by them or rebuking President Obama when u meet him in person. Similarly, on this board, u should not rebuke the editors n owners of this website(christiannewsdotnet).

See, I did say u were misinterpreting the blocking feature in the app/web.for this site.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

U r contradicting yrself, besides being double-minded.

Fyi, there r 2 different blessings of God, ie earthly blessings, eg good health n prosperity,(DEUT.28) n heavenly blessings, eg the free gift of salvation that is unmerited or Grace.(MATT.4:17)

Gal 5:22-23

Well then I hope you get both.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

Thanks.

If u do not repent of yr false thinking that homosexuality is not a sin/evil-deed/law-breaking, u will not get the former earthly blessings from God, n maybe even the latter heavenly blessings of God.(cf: 1COR.5:5)

Btw, do u know who Jesus Christ and God really is.? How will u address Jesus if u do meet Him in person.(eg 1THESS.4:16).?

Gal 5:22-23

Point out what law it is breaking first. Homosexuality is no more a sin than wearing a polyester blend. You are of course free to disagree but I’ll go with God on this one over you if you don’t mind.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

Well, ROM.1:18-32 clearly says that homosexuality is a sin/evil-deed/law-breaking n is a curse from God for intentionally rejecting God n His Law, even though they knew of God’s existence by observing Creation n the wonders of Mother-nature.
…….If homosexuals repent n submit to God n His Law, God will remove the curse of homosexual tendencies/lust from them.

The Word of God at ACTS.15:24-29 has exempted new Gentile Christians from some of the laws of Moses/ /God if they r a burden to them.
…….Hence, new Gentile Christian adult men do not hv to obey the law of circumcision(LEV.12:3) bc it will be a burden to them(see GEN.34:25), similarly for other ceremonial n customary laws of the Sabbath, kosher foods, animal sacrifice, etc. New Gentile Christians r required by God to obey the law against homosexuality(LEV.18:22) bc it will not be a burden to them, similarly for other moral laws like the laws against idolatry, blasphemy, dishonoring parents, murder, adultery, stealing, perjury/lying, etc.(EXO.20)

Why was this exemption given by God/Spirit.? … Bc for new Gentile Christians who might hv led mostly lawless lives previously, gaining eternal life in heaven thru Jesus is very much more important than gaining a good n long life on earth thru Moses, eg drug addicts, alcoholics, chain-smokers, witches/sorcerers, HIV sufferers n other “damaged” Gentiles who become new Christians.

In comparison, new Jewish Christians or Messianic Jews r required to continue to keep Moses or Jewish Law bc it will not be a burden to them, eg they had already been circumcised as babies.

Gal5:22-23 is a false professor. This person has a god, but doesn’t know God.

http://www.moonbatdan.com/ Dan T

So, you would take away my right to free speech and impose censorship. I believe that’s called “fascism.” In this fascist world you envision, would using the word “trannie” be a misdemeanor, or a felony? If I said it twice, should I get the death sentence? I know you SJW types are just full of compassion.

Gal 5:22-23

Please quit being silly and embarrassing yourself. Censorship is by the government, nothing here is being censored. And as far as not being allowed to use defiling words, take that up with Paul, he’s the one that said defilers will have no place in heaven.

But then since there’s no indication you even want to go to heaven, speak as you please. You have been warned which is my obligation to you.

http://www.moonbatdan.com/ Dan T

Any man who would pay someone to cut off his private parts is insane. Nothing could be more contrary to nature than removing the source of life. Being gelded is a punishment, not a choice.

We don’t need any more insane people advising this gay president.

Gal 5:22-23

Considering the recent attacks on transgender citizens, this is a welcome addition to the council. The majority of Americans support transgender rights, and a voice on this council will help give the president and the Council a perspective from the people themselves.

TheBottomline4This

The “majority” doesn’t support trans. The media makes it seem that way though.

pslinger

Baloney. You are just as deceived as he is.

TheBottomline4This

Definitely deceived on many levels.

Gal 5:22-23

This is a Council for the faith based community, not just for you’re beliefs.

pslinger

Any so-called council that promotes sin is an apostate council. My beliefs are Biblical, yours are not. Christianity is a Biblical faith, yours is obviously something else.

TheBottomline4This

Spot on.

Gal 5:22-23

Standard deflection. This is about a council in a country based on religious plurality. I don’t know what your beliefs are but from your words I would expect the Savior to say He doesn’t know you.

Time will tell.

TheBottomline4This

“but from your words I would expect the Savior to say He doesn’t know you.” LOL. That’s rich coming from you.

He is a man. Mr. Satin is mentally ill and needs proper help in living who he was born and will die…a male. It’s not PC to say that though.

Gal 5:22-23

And when you do a Google image search you see that is the least flattering, not that unusual in notes trying to present a certain point of view.

But transgender isn’t about someone looking like a different gender anyway.

calduncan

Pssst
It IS a man.

bowie1

Yup.

LadyFreeBird♥BlessedBeTheLord

I was thinking the same thing. I guess it is because he is a man.

Suzanna Kincaid

I do believe he is a MAN by god’s will! You married a woman, had 3 children. I think god understand exactly what he was doing when you were created.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

In gay relationships, there r gay-husbands n gay-wives. Gay-wives like to be sexually-penetrated in their rears. Gay-wives behave just like women = tend to be submissive n feminine, but bitchy with other gay-wives n women, eg Richard Simmons.
…….Gay-wives may also wanna dress up like a woman. These type of gay-wives become transvestites.

Gay-husbands behave just like normal men n it is not easy to tell them apart or identify their sexuality, eg macho Rock Hudson, Heath Ledger.

Gal 5:22-23

You don’t know a thing about gay relationships. Do you realize that the majority of gay men don’t engage in your mentioned sexual activity at all? That there are dozens of times more wives being so ‘penetrated’ by their husbands that gay men?

And the idea that they take on set roles is funny and sad. But it confirms what has been obvious all along, you believe what you want to believe and don’t really care if it has a basis in fact.

TheBottomline4This

It will be good when this story cycles out of the lead stories spot. Seeing this guy’s pic is nauseating and sad.

pinksugar

Dude, seriously – Have you looked at yourself?? You’re a mess. You are not a woman. You’re a man pretending because there are things in your REAL life that you are running away from and don’t want to address.. running away is not the answer.

TheBottomline4This

Each one of them have their reasons why they do this. Bruce revealed his. “Laverne” Cox revealed his. They all have a reason or reasons they do this. You are right, they are running. Running away from who they really are, by allowing their feelings to control them. Many say they are doing this because they have always felt something. Too bad they confuse that feeling that was related to the reason to cause them to choose this path.

pslinger

Rejecting one’s gender is a combination of mental illness and rebellion against God. “Transgenders” not only believe the lie, they embrace it and live it. And our godless culture not only tolerates it, but approves of it and celebrates it. Never before in human history has there been such a wholesale rejection of God’s created order and His moral values on such a huge scale. We are living in the period of end-time apostasy foretold by Jesus and Paul, and this world is rapidly descending into darkness. Rev 22:20

weatherman66

You can’t make this BS up.

LadyFreeBird♥BlessedBeTheLord

You can say that again.

TheBottomline4This

The funny thing is they are. They are making up a fantasy to avoid their real issues. Bruce Jenner revealed his. Laverne Cox has revealed his. They have reason and they know. They just chose to deal with it in this way. It’s sad really.

Karen Bracken

These Communists are pushing this agenda in order to completely irradiate male and female. We will all just be persons controlled by the federal government. No mother, father, sister, brother, aunt, uncle, man, woman. Think about where this is leading to people. Wake the hell up. Obama could care less about these people. He is pushing a Marxist/Communist agenda and using the poor, LGBT and the Muslims to do it. YES the Muslims are being used too. The Communists used the Muslims to spread Communism for decades and they are doing it again. This MAN is not a transgender. He is a transexual. Better start reading up on the 45 goals to turn the US into a Communist country actually filed in the federal register on Jan. 10, 1963. All 45 are either complete or almost complete. This has NOTHING to do with compassion for these people. They are being used as useful idiots and we all know what Communists do with LGBT people.

Jalapeno

I actually see it being completely the opposite.

I’m not simply defined by my DNA, I’m defined by WHO I am…even if the two don’t necessarily match.

Shirley Knott

This character had some connection with a home for elderly homosexuals. That is just too horrible to contemplate. I hope any parents living within miles of that place would warn their children to stay away at all costs.

TheBottomline4This

Even though I don’t support the practice of homosexuality. I don’t think it’s fair to say that. Anyone can be a risk to children, whether straight, gay, trans, etc.

Brian McKoy

If we identify gender and God’s purpose for a life by reproductive organs then how do we identify the gender and purpose of those who have the appearance of a male but possess female ovaries and an underdeveloped uterus? Or women who have the chromosomal make up of a male? Neither can have children biologically. Does that make them abominable or unfit in the eyes of God? Read something else besides the Bible before you judge a person’s character based on their gender or sexuality. We all are created by God and like other creatures, sexuality varies from one to another. Thats based on evidence that doesn’t require faith to believe. Follow truth not popular misinterpretations.

TheBottomline4This

We are so advanced now that the sex one was given by God can be determined by testing if there is any question. That would be who the person is. That would be who they should live as. God made male and female. That’s it.

Brian McKoy

So if a man’s chromosomes says he is a woman then he’s a woman right?

TheBottomline4This

What do you mean? Be more specific.

Brian McKoy

If a human who was identified as a man (with a penis) finds out he has female internal organs, is he now a woman? Or if chromosome testing says hes female is he?

TheBottomline4This

Since specialists can perform an ultrasound, blood test, chromosome analysis, and even do exploratory surgery to find out the baby’s true sex. Whatever the results from that show, would be the true sex of the person and they should live that. Are you hermaphrodite?

Brian McKoy

No I’m not. I’m just a Christian human being who doesn’t take popular opinion over factual scientific evidence. This dialogue demonstrates how religious ideologies create false truths and discriminate against those who try to live theirs. LGBT have been here since the beginning of time. Because of the purposed discriminatory acts of a group of translators, mankind continues in such a miseducated belief of the LGBT community.

Charles

“I’m just a Christian human being who doesn’t take popular opinion over factual scientific evidence”.. Popular opinion overriding facts is why we are having this discussion in the first place. What “Factual” scientific evidence is that? Based on your statements, you sound like a “Humanist”.. No translation issues about Homosexuality in the Bible. Many just don’t like it.

Brian McKoy

I’m going to challenge you to do your homework and find it for yourself. No matter what I say you’re not going to be convinced unless you see and hear it for yourself. A source of reference to start with is a documentary from National Geographic called “Sex, Lies, and Gender”. You can watch it for free on YouTube. Also a book called “Walking the Bridgeless Canyon” by Evangelist Kathy Baldock .

Charles

What homework might that be? Find what? That homosexuals aren’t born that way? I already knew that.

Brian McKoy

Afraid you may learn something through actual research 😰 God forbid!

Charles

Hardly…..

Brian McKoy

Chromosomes and hormones determine sexuality in all cases. Whether twins, triplets, Septuplets, etc. The lack of a normal chromosome count, abnormal chromosomes, and hormone deficiency during gestation (development in the womb) can cause the hypothalamus not to develop in accordance to the physical gender of the child. The hypothalamus controls sexual attraction and is directly affected by testosterone. Less testosterone to the hypothalamus can cause the child to have a feminine psychological development. Why some change and some don’t is a part of the fluidic (variation) nature of some people. The same goes for many others in the animal kingdom. You can’t make a bi or homosexual primate straight. Or bird, marine life, or microorganisms. Thus there’s a pattern to prove God created us this way. Read, watch documentaries, and research!

Charles

Reference of your sources on this?… What study is this, and who was it by? “Why some change and some don’t is a part of the fluidic (variation) nature of some people”.. What’s the variation? God created us apart from animals.. That isn’t going to fly trying to compare us to other animals. That’s a humanist view you hold..

Brian McKoy

I did give references in the beginning. I’m not here to convince you. I did the research for myself, you do it for your own knowledge. The same God that made us, made animals. If there aren’t similarities then why are we under the classification of some animals known as mammals and share close similarities with primates? I’m done with supporting my point of view at this point. Now when you go back and find a discrepancy in my presentation of information through your search, then question me further.

Charles

I have done research on it.. That’s why I’m asking for scientific references.. Because the papers I’ve read say no such thing.. You have scientific sources I’ll be happy to read them.. Animals are “Pre” Programmed to perform their functions on the planet.. Humans are unique, which is why we have dominion over the earth.

Gal 5:22-23

If you were born that way, all identical twins would also be homosexuals

By saying that you show you have a very limited understanding of genetics. Your DNA is only one part of what regulates fetal development. Look up epigenetics and methylation tagging of DNA. Look up the recent epigenetic test that was predictive of adult sexual orientation in gay men, so much so one researcher quit the project because he thought it might lead to a prenatal test for male sexual orientation.

Explain how some are “Bi-Sexual”
Some bisexuals actually are attracted to either sex, others aren’t attracted to either sex but like sex – the act – with who ever.

A bisexual can decide to act mono-sexually, people leave heterosexuality and homosexuality all the time, that doesn’t mean all people can, or that they have ‘switched’ sexual orientation.

If these are your questions it really does indicate you don’t know enough yet to ask the right questions.

Charles

The reason I bring up genetic twins is to prove that it’s not genetic.. If it was a mutation, most if not all would have it. I read lots of data on this subject. References and sources please…. Every time I read this stuff you guys claim, you don’t add sources to back up your claims.. “A bisexual can decide to act mono-sexually, people leave heterosexuality and homosexuality all the time, that doesn’t mean all people can, or that they have ‘switched’ sexual orientation.”.. So one minute you are attracted to Men, the next women if you’re Bi-Sexual? There you go, a choice being made.

TheBottomline4This

They don’t like to hear that it’s a choice. If the choice is made when younger, time passing makes them think they must have been born that way. Wrong. There is always something that happens that causes them to choose it. Bruce Jenner revealed his. Laverne Cox revealed his. There is a reason gay/trans/bi choose as they do. They know.

Gal 5:22-23

And all it shows is you don’t understand genetics.

And why do you think the bisexual isn’t attracted to both? It isn’t one switching to another, they get all the autonomic attraction responses to either sex, or regardless of sex – either one, its not a choice by any reasonable usage of the term.

Charles

No sources Doc? References to an actual study? No?

TheBottomline4This

It is very doubtful Gal5 is a Christian. This person is delusional on many things when it comes to God. This person twists Scripture. Don’t expect much from Gal5.

Charles

Just another trying to destroy the Church.. Won’t happen though..

TheBottomline4This

Definitely not!!! 🙂

Gal 5:22-23

Since they are easily found on line there’s no point, you’re statement that provoked this was your confusion about how that could be. I told you. You were short sighted and wrong.

Charles

So easy to find, I’ve never seen them? Or are you talking about the doctored studies they’ve tried to pass as fact? Only confusion here is you not able to produce sources for your claims.

Gal 5:22-23

Yes. No. If you can’t find them they probably wouldn’t help you understand anyway.

the silly twin argument would mean they’d have identical fingerprints, or handedness. Again learn basic biology and then go look.

Charles

Still no source?

Gal 5:22-23

You mean your source that “if it was genetic then all identical twins would be the same’ nonsense? Of course you can’t find a link – that is simply untrue.

0pus

LOL, that nut case is an “evangelist” for sodomy. If she’s a Christian, Satan is a Christian. She pops up on blogs now and then, she’s the typical hate-spewer that comprise the LGBT movement.

Brian McKoy

Ok, David Gushee, a well known Bible scholar is another person who is an advocate for LGBT. There are several people who are not LGBT that have come to the knowledge of truth and stand against discrimination.

Brian McKoy

Google him

Amos Moses

“I’m just a Christian human being who doesn’t take popular opinion over factual scientific evidence. This dialogue demonstrates how religious ideologies create false truths and discriminate against those who try to live theirs. LGBT have been here since the beginning of time. ”

So not really a Christian, just in name only ………………. K………. Matthew 19 could not be more clear …………….. but go with your own “religious ideologies” that “create false truths” ….. you seem very good at it …….

Gal 5:22-23

Exactly! There are those with the SRY gene that develop with feminine characteristics just as there are those without it that do with masculine characteristics. Increasing number of studies show that phenotypical females can have masculine brains, and phenotypical males with feminized brains.

God’s creation has much more variation than some would like, they try to limit God to their understanding.

Amos Moses

Sorry, you got it backwards……………….

TheBottomline4This

Gal5 doesn’t seem to be a Christian from what they share. They have most things twisted.

Sheri

All things.

Gal 5:22-23

No, as we learn we realize that God’s creation is far more varied than simplistic binary thinking. Again, of God wanted there to be only two sexes linked absolutely to a specific gender it would have been easy to do – other of His creations actually have that. But every human being has all the information they need to be male or female, masculine or feminine and all the range of variations in between.

God made eunuchs, and more than you could possibly imagine.

Amos Moses

No, God made it binary………….. men …. in their arrogance ……… thinking they knew better than God ………. has decided that there is “more” ………….. and depravity is the results …….. and eunuchs are not trannys ……….. they are still men …. and the passage you refer to ……

19:11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

Nothing there about their body dysmorphia or that they were sexually confused …… it had more to do with a Jewish idea that if they lost part of their body they could not enter heaven ………. and Christ was saying to them they are able ………..

Trannys can get to heaven ………… they can have salvation ……. but thinking they are something outside Gods creation ……….. or that God is a god of their own desires and depravity …………. no …. sorry ……… they must accept Christ …….. and part of that is that they are either male or female as they were created …….. not some delusion they wish to be …..

Gal 5:22-23

You are mistaken and your view of Scripture as confining rather than liberating betrays you. Eunuchs are of all kinds and flavors if you knew your history, at the time Jesus spoke everyone that wasn’t a genital normative cis gender male was considered a eunuch. The Talmud speaks of them, the Romans had lists of the different kinds.

God Himself said there was more than what you claim is His will, and His Word written on our very cells proves you wrong.

Amos Moses

“You are mistaken and your view of Scripture as confining rather than liberating betrays you.”

You have no idea what scripture says ……………. you twist it to your desire ……. not Christs desire and design ……… bye …….

Gal 5:22-23

Actually I have a very good idea what Scripture said, both in Word and by the Spirit. Insisting on a heavy yoke does no-one any good, but hopefully will do no harm.

Peace.

Amos Moses

“Insisting on a heavy yoke does no-one any good,”

Then you should stop doing it ………..

Matthew Henry’s Concise Commentary

19:3-12 The Pharisees were desirous of drawing something from Jesus which they might represent as contrary to the law of Moses. Cases about marriage have been numerous, and sometimes perplexed; made so, not by the law of God, but by the lusts and follies of men; and often people fix what they will do, before they ask for advice. Jesus replied by asking whether they had not read the account of the creation, and the first example of marriage; thus pointing out that every departure therefrom was wrong. That condition is best for us, and to be chosen and kept to accordingly, which is best for our souls, and tends most to prepare us for, and preserve us to, the kingdom of heaven. When the gospel is really embraced, it makes men kind relatives and faithful friends; it teaches them to bear the burdens, and to bear with the infirmities of those with whom they are connected, to consider their peace and happiness more than their own. As to ungodly persons, it is proper that they should be restrained by laws, from breaking the peace of society. And we learn that the married state should be entered upon with great seriousness and earnest prayer.

Gal 5:22-23

So you don’t even deal with the topic at hand but quote an 18th century evangelical as if he was some sort of authority?

Typical.

Amos Moses

No…… and that is an interesting deflection …………. but you seem to think ….. as do many post-moderns …. that all correct ideas came only in the last few years …………. and that history has no meaning …………. and if that is your thought ……………. then your ideas are going to fade very quickly ………….. as they should ………….. no, the historicist view ……. going back to Christ ………… who had the correct reading of the passage ………. is the only correct reading ………… and what you are doing is expressly AGAINST scripture ………. Namely ……

2Pet 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

and that is what you are doing ……….. giving a PRIVATE INTERPRETATION ……….. so have fun with you post modern heresy ……… it is not going to work out for you ………. Christ is the only one qualified to tells us what scripture means ……….. not you or me or anyone else ………… and what i have given you is the correct reading of the passage on eunuchs …….. not some post modern claptrap about it being trannys ………….

Gal 5:22-23

And since reviling identifies people who aren’t getting into heaven what authority do they have?

Amos Moses

There are no “identities” recognized in scripture ……….. and again ……….. you do not know what you are talking about ………. beyond your post-modern heresy ………… you have absolutely no scripture to back up your view …………. trannys can get to heaven ……. BY SUBMITTING TO CHRIST ……………… and that submission means submitting to His word …… not the words and meanings you MADE UP ……………………

Amos Moses

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

You are teaching them to violate commandments ………..

Gal 5:22-23

a statement to people without the Spirit under the Old Covenant, not Christians with the Spirit embracing the New.

Again Christ’s yoke is light.

Amos Moses

And that includes you who are leading those persons into sin …………..

Gal 5:22-23

No, you don’t understand Scripture or the context of the New Testament. And there is no sin, no not loving or forgiving, involved from anyone but your side. Those at the people who are both practicing sin and encouraging it in others.

Amos Moses

“No, you don’t understand Scripture or the context of the New Testament.”

No, you dont understand that the bible is a WHOLE ………….. you do not get to consume only the BITS YOU find appealing ……………. and still refer to yourself as a christian ……. it is the WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD ……………….. That is what we are to consume ………. and you do not …………… so you present a FALSE gospel and a FALSE Christ ……………… and TWISTED scripture …………….

Gal 5:22-23

Sorry you need to understand God, revilers won’t be getting into heaven because they are sinning., they can say ‘Lord, Lord’ all they want but it will avail them not.

Amos Moses

Someone who does not understand scripture NOR God telling me about what God is …… Rich …………. i would laugh if it were not so sad …………….

Gal 5:22-23

Someone has to try and open your heart to thheart Spirit and Christ, but if you reject such effort we need never talk about it again, your choice.

Amos Moses

“Again Christ’s yoke is light.”

But not yours …………. who is adding to it by encouraging them to “cut themselves” for ….. what was that reason again …………..

Gal 5:22-23

“cut themselves”? God has a home in Christ for even those that are “cut”.

Amos Moses

Sure ………….. but not for those who encourage others to cut ……………. when cutting is not part of the Kingdom ………… you want them to REMAIN in sickness …………. you want them to embrace their sickness ……… and NOT Christ ……….. and you are WRONG ……..

Gal 5:22-23

You are MISTAKEN! Gender reassignment surgery is no different than a vasectomy morally – nether prevent a Christian from doing as they are asked by God, love and forgive perfectly, and repenting not doing so.

Amos Moses

“Gender reassignment surgery is no different than a vasectomy morally ”

BALONEY…………….

Gal 5:22-23

…is a type of meat product, but a totally pointless reply to the statement

Amos Moses

Pointless to argue someone who has no point …………. of any coherence …….. You have no scripture to back your points ………. none correctly exegeted at least ………. so BALONEY is all you get ….

Gal 5:22-23

Actually I do back all God’s points with scripture, you just don’t like what you hear. If you were ready to hear the Spirit you would, we are just harvesters, we aren’t the planters or the farmers. My obligation to you at this time is done, God knows if I could have done something more to bring you to Him. Next person or next time. From now one I will only respond to you about errors like at the hate site ‘cut and paste’.

Amos Moses

“Actually I do back all God’s points with scripture, ”

No, you twist His words to your darkened heart ……….. and yeah … no sane christian would like it ….. it is an offense to God ……… and we have NO AUTHORITY to alter His word …… not even ONE IOTA ……………. but you do it with regularity ……….

Gal 5:22-23

Those that twist His message of love and forgiveness are the offense to God and those that do with their hate have no authority to do so. Defilers can’t stop defiling it seems, why they are barred from heaven I suppose.

Amos Moses

Geneva Study Bible

For there are some {l} eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have {m} made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

(l) A man can become a eunuch in one of two ways: the first is by castration or emasculation, and the other by natural causes, such as a rupture.

(m) Who abstain from marriage, and live as celibates through the gift of God.

Gal 5:22-23

And?

Amos Moses

Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges

12. eunuchs = “unmarried.”

12. for the kingdom of heaven’s sake] In old days some men abstained from marriage in order to devote themselves to the study of the law, in later times men have done so for the furtherance of Christianity.

Gal 5:22-23

Hahaha! Sorry your attempts at deflection are clumsy. Its about people being born eunuchs, not made or chosen that was relevant.

Amos Moses

Pulpit Commentary

Verse 12. – Our Lord proceeds to note three classes of men to whom it is given to abstain from marriage. There are some eunuchs, which were so born. The first class consists of those who are physically unable to contract matrimony, or, having the power, lack the inclination. They are compulsorily continent, and are not voluntary abstainers. Neither is the second class: those which were made eunuchs of men. Such were common enough in the harems and courts of Orientals. The cruel and infamous treatment which such persons underwent was practised against their will, and consequently their continence had no sort of merit. The third is the only class which of choice and for high reasons lived a celibate life: which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. This is not to be understood of excision; for this would be a contravention of the order of nature and the good work of creation. Origen, who took the passage literally, and with his own hands mutilated himself, was justly condemned by the verdict of the Church. The verb is to be understood in a metaphorical sense of the mortification of the natural desires and impulses at the cost of much pain and trouble, the spirit conquering the flesh by the special grace of God. The motive of such self-denial is high and pure. It is practised “for the kingdom of heaven’s sake,” that is, to be free from distraction and the cares and dangers involved in a married life. St. Paul carries forward the Lord’s teaching when he writes (1 Corinthians 7:32, 33), “He that is unmarried is careful for the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord; but he that is married is careful for the things of the world, how he may please his wife” (comp. Isaiah 56:3, 4). The celibate life, deliberately embraced for religion’s sake, is here approved by Christ, not to the disparagement of matrimony, but as a counsel which some are enabled to follow to their soul’s great benefit. It may be added that the counsel applies also to married persons who sacrifice conjugal endearments for spiritual reasons – “have wives as though they had none” (1 Corinthians 7:29). Let him receive it. This is not an injunction, but a permission; it is no universal rule, prescribed to all or to the many; it is a special grace allowed to the few, and by few attained. “Each man,” says St. Paul, “hath his own gift from God, one after this manner, and another after that” (1 Corinthians 7:7, 26).

Gal 5:22-23

Who’s pulpit? And you are missing the point at all – some are born eunuchs, there is more variation to God’s design than you can recognize.

Amos Moses

The third is the only class which of choice and for high reasons lived a celibate life: which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake.

>>>>This is not to be understood of excision; for this would be a contravention of the order of nature and the good work of creation. <<<>>>>Origen, who took the passage literally, and with his own hands mutilated himself, was justly condemned by the verdict of the Church. <<<<<

The verb is to be understood in a metaphorical sense of the mortification of the natural desires and impulses at the cost of much pain and trouble, the spirit conquering the flesh by the special grace of God.

But i am putting "heavy yoke" on them………… you do not know WHAT you are talking about ………. you seem to think they should "cut it off" and that God honors that ……….. Noooooooo………. not for circumcision as a need ……. or any other reason ………….

Gal 5:22-23

Ah, attributing a Catholic. And of course ignoring that God said some are born eunuchs. And then you meander off into straw men, saying what I didn’t say. Half-truths is false witness.

Kevin Alvar

OBAMA IS A MENTAL CASE AND SO ARE THESE PEOPLE

cj06

Was this thing found in the ladies bathroom at target ?

0pus

Instead of being a loving granddad to his grandchildren, this fruit is running around playing publicity ho. What a way to spend your old age, propping up a dying religious denomination like the UCC.

JOHN HARRIS

If Baraq Obama had a brother…

Beeta

What a nasty and horrible joke obama is!

http://www.larryfarlow.com/ Larry Farlow

What a sad thing to have lived so many years, nearly 82, and still be so uninformed and confused about life. There’s no scarier place to be than in advanced age and still in bondage to sin. I pray he is given eyes to see the truth before it’s too late.

TheBottomline4This

The emotional/mental issues these people have can only be fixed through Jesus Christ. He is able to take the scales from their hearts and turn their lives away from the lies they are living to truth.

Alvin Chipmunk

What scares me more is because of his advanced age, he might be too set in his ways. In other words, his heart may have hardened. That would make it extremely difficult for him to accept biblical truth. However, I do believe that anything is possible with God and that He alone is likely the only one who is able to change that guy’s situation.

truelinguist

The face of a child molester.

TheBottomline4This

Even though I don’t support the practice of homosexuality. I don’t think it’s fair to say that. Anyone can be a risk to children, whether straight, gay, trans, etc.

Amos Moses

Many homosexuals will admit to being taken as a child and to doing it ……………

I accidentally typed homosexual, but edited it to what I meant to type which was trans. It applies to both trans and gays. Even though I don’t support their choice, it’s not fair to make that statement. Any person could be a molester. I have a family member…she was molested by a guy who is heterosexual.

Amos Moses

yeah ……….. i get that ………

Amos Moses

America Is Being Invaded by an Alien Species Called the Ze’s and the Hir’s

Is this such a hard concept to understand? Because one has his sexual organ amputated, does not mean he has changed his gender. This person is still an XY , not an XX. But in today’s Obama climate of political correctness, science does not matter. The perverse are now ruling over the normal. The minority have protected status while we traditional Christians remain under attack.

At the end of the day, I do not care what transgenders believe and do. However, their rights end at my constitutionally protected nose.

This article highlights just how the Obama administration is attacking traditional American values under the guise of political correctness and under the agenda of the trangender lobby.

The Elimination of Free Speech and Christian Values

thecommonsenseshow. com with Dave Hodges……..

Malik Dassam Obikwa

Michelle knows why Barrack is doing this. I’m sure it disgusts her.

Kate Karwowska

Get a grip, folks. No “god”, no “confusion “. Some people are gay, some are transgender. It doesn’t affect you in ANY WAY for f***’s sake.

Alvin Chipmunk

I think America has gone off the deep end. When we reject nature, we lose our sanity. Notice everything happening within the last 12 months? This is getting scary. Only God can change this mess. Question is. will He? I mean…we turned our backs on Him, so I believe human insanity is a symptom of God missing in society. He has rightfully turned His back on us.

http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Kingdom Ambassador

Christians, wake up! We’ve been had!

Ask yourselves: Is this what comes of the Document that begins “In the beginning God….” or the one that begins “We the People….”?

Such could have never occurred in17th-century Christian Colonial America whose governments of, by, and for God were established upon His immutable moral law, including Deuteronomy 22:5.

“[B]ecause they have transgressed my covenant, and trespassed against my law ,,, they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind….” (Hosea 8:1, 7)

This is but one of thousands of consequences of the ever-intensifying whirlwind today’s America is reaping as a result of the wind sown by the the 18th-century founders when they replaced the 17th-century Colonial governments for their own humanistic government of, by, and for the people based upon capricious Enlightenment and Masonic traditions.

For more regarding these two polar opposite forms of governments, see online Chapter 3 “The Preamble:WE THE PEOPLE vs. YAHWEH” of “Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective.” Click on my picture, then our website. Go to our Online Books page, click on the top entry, and scroll down to Chapter 3.

Then find out how much you REALLY know about the Constitution as compared to the Bible. Take our 10-question Constitution Survey in the right-hand sidebar and receive a complimentary copy of a book that EXAMINES the Constitution by the Bible.

jilgavvent

This is another slap in the face to Christians! This president is a vile hater of Christians and America!

C Joseph

He looks like an Alien hybrid.

C Joseph

He/ she looks like a alien hybrid

B1jetmech

Nephilim.

Evangelist K L Rich

Why are you referring to this man as “her?” As a Christian magazine, we must be mindful to still use the appropriate pronoun for we must always stand for what’s right.

hytre64

“God designed man; He designed women,” he also said in a video recorded last year. “God will redeem the lives of people who struggle with gender identity issues just like I did. He redeemed my life, and I’ve been free from it as a result of that.” – Words of Testimony by a former “transgender”.

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Christian News Network provides up-to-date news and information affecting the body of Christ worldwide from an uncompromising Biblical worldview. Our objective is to present the news with the word of God as our lens, and to bring to light what is hid in the darkness. Learn more →