Re: OT: Active Shooter in BR

Originally Posted by ManAboutTown

Way to go America. We've successfully allowed the media and the liberal left to scramble our brains into unprecedented division. Any person that targets cops, especially for race only, should be hung in a public setting, with every news camera, iPhone, whatever in attendance and broadcast to the world. You POS want to challenge our law and order, our way of life, our heritage, our traditions?!

And the techie can shove his "assault rifle" comment up his azz. No tragedy can take place without someone rushing to push an agenda. The perp attacked the Cops. THE PERP.

Way to go America. We've successfully allowed the media and the liberal left to scramble our brains into unprecedented division. Any person that targets cops, especially for race only, should be hung in a public setting, with every news camera, iPhone, whatever in attendance and broadcast to the world. You POS want to challenge our law and order, our way of life, our heritage, our traditions?!

And the techie can shove his "assault rifle" comment up his azz. No tragedy can take place without someone rushing to push an agenda. The perp attacked the Cops. THE PERP.

Re: OT: Active Shooter in BR

Originally Posted by beaux66

Let me reiterate, I am not anti gun, I am anti assault rifle. Yes criminals can get a hold of them but countries who have banned them have greatly reduced the gun violence rate. The Orlando shooter bought that gun legally. I would like my chances against a hand gun any day against an assault rifle.

First of all, the second amendment has nothing to do with hunting, or even defending yourself from a home invasion. We, the citizens, should have weapons capable of preventing any armed militia, including our own government, from arming against us. Second, and more critical to me... is that we are not suffering from sane people killing. When you show me how to disarm insane people, without taking guns away from lawful sane citizens... let's talk. But third... cops in large numbers want our citizenry to own and carry the weapons we currently have.

You keep talking about the extraction of guns from "war zones" with a utopian misbelief that criminals won't still get their hands on whatever weapons exist in this world. The only guns that unconstitutional laws will capture are from citizens that wouldn't ever use them illegally. Me and many many others are so F ing tired of having this stupid discussion. Gather your friends and start complaining about criminals. It is criminal minded people we need to focus on. And if it involves telling certain ethnicities or religions that their culture is F'ed up... then we need to stop worrying about their feelings and let the truth be told. Your preoccupation with a stupid gun ban angle isn't EVER going to happen... and shouldn't.

Also tell any other gun control advocate you know that if they want to EVER get solid citizens to even discuss fairly reasonable gun restrictions... get their liberal freak politicians to confess they understand the 2nd amendment... and that it isn't about hunting or preventing one intruder. Get them to preach it loudly and firmly... and once they do... a smart guy like me will allow them to bring that subject up where it might get some traction.

And last... when these cop killings or any other mass shooting occur... you spend 5000 hours hammering out how the killer is at fault... whether he used a gun, a truck, a pipe bomb, an infectious disease, an airplane, or a flame thrower. It's the F ng criminal! Got it!? The weapon doesn't kill. The F ng criminal does!

Re: OT: Active Shooter in BR

Curious as to why Congress wont fund the CDC in order to study gun violence.
I bet cops would much rather face a criminal with a slow firing, low capacity handgun than an AR that can shoot 30 rounds in a few seconds. The issue isn't with making some guns illegal, just harder to acquire. And its a bi-partisan issue. http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...ground-checks/

Curious as to why Congress wont fund the CDC in order to study gun violence.
I bet cops would much rather face a criminal with a slow firing, low capacity handgun than an AR that can shoot 30 rounds in a few seconds. The issue isn't with making some guns illegal, just harder to acquire. And its a bi-partisan issue. http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...ground-checks/

Ridiculous argument. No suck thing as a slow firing pistol or slow firing rifle. They will fire as fast as you pull the trigger. A XDm 40cal with 19 rounds will fire as fast as any AR platform. Easier to conceal and just as easy to reload.

Re: OT: Active Shooter in BR

Originally Posted by Ragin4U

Curious as to why Congress wont fund the CDC in order to study gun violence.
I bet cops would much rather face a criminal with a slow firing, low capacity handgun than an AR that can shoot 30 rounds in a few seconds. The issue isn't with making some guns illegal, just harder to acquire.

We've studied gun violence 20 times. What new information do you think there is to discover?
Cops would rather face criminals that are blindfolded and carring a whiffle bat. What's your point? Cops, in fact, are concerned about the courts not dropping the bomb on violent criminals when they're repeat offenders. Cops are concerned that everyone believes they should face violence and not protect themselves. Cops are concerned that people think that one bad cop means 100 others are also. Cops are concerned the political leadership above them doesn't have their back.

I can make cocaine hard for you to acquire (and actually I have). But do you think it's made it too hard for a cocaine addict to acquire? Why do you think an amendment infringement will do no more than prevent a solid citizen from having a particular gun?

Re: OT: Latest Shooting Tragedy in Baton Rouge

Then why are most of these incidents carried out with an AR?
538 is about stats and prediction. ESPN got in later.
And no not EVERYONE believes cops should face violence, etc, unsupported. General blank statement.
How is it that some want to blame the criminal and not the gun but have no qualms about blaming government, the pres in particular?