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Apparently Lenny took exception to what Oberbeck had to say and fired off a rebutal.

Not your usual rebuttal, mind you, but a 5 page manifesto, replete with footnotes no less.

As Patrick Pretty noted in the wonderful article on his blog that turned us on to this SLT piece...

A five-page, de facto letter to the editor — one filled with slime reimagined as a sincere effort to be helpful and 10 footnotes? This is supposed to beneficial to the trade?

At least Clements didn’t summon his advertised IQ of 155 to call them “roaches” or to declare that Oberbeck was “broke.” He merely relied on his unctuousness. In doing so, he demonstrated once again that MLM often is its own worst enemy.

Anyone wanting a morning chuckle should read some of the comments on Patrick Petty's blog - they're a lot funnier than the comics.

You can tell Lenny is getting upset with Patrick - I see he just pulled the old "I challenge you to a debate" gambit out of his bag of MLM tricks.

Patrick, I’ll extend the same challenge to you that I’ve been making to any MLM critic – let’s debate the charges you’ve made against the MLM concept on a live conference call. You make your point, I’ll offer a rebuttal, then you can destroy it. I’m sure you’re very confident in your position, and can competently present it and defend it, yes? Here’s an opportunity to make a fool out of me before an audience of hundreds, most of which will be MLM prospects and peers. How can you possibly turn down such an opportunity?

I’ve made this offer to well over 100 MLM critics over the past 20 years. If you accept, you will be the very first.

Diamond Prosperity, a 2 x 2 forced cycling matrix with a $1,295 buy in, a $100 set up fee and a $29/month website fee. What do you get for that fee? The "Watch the Movie" marketing system (Now showing, A Fist Full of Cash). I'm sure Len would tell us Diamond Prosperity is a legitimate direct selling company, after all YourSolutions wouldn't brag about having them for a client if they weren't. Would they?

Should be interesting to see how this plays out. Clements, the Exec. VP. of a company with a client base of some questionable MLM companies!

Publisher and Editor of MarketWave Alert Letter.Industry "watchdog" newsletter focusing on MLM opportunity evaluation.Published from January 1991 through December 1995 as MarketWave.Published from December 1998 to present as Marketwave Alert Letter.3,800 subscribers in 16 countries.

Lenny is such a big industry watchdog and respected guru. Look for yourselves, folks. With 7 - 12 million MLMers in the U.S. alone he has a whopping 3800 subscribers to his newsletter. Boy, am I impressed!!!

But, I digress. Being the industry watch dog extraordinaire he has proclaimed himself to be, he must be in quite a quandry right now. Didn't our boy say he was going to expose the good, the bad and the ugly. He is going to be a busy boy over there at YourSolutions.net as my good friend Doc mentioned.

You will be shocked, shocked I tell you. MLM guru extraordinaire, Len Clements / Clem Lemons, has apparently jumped and dumped yet again. After all the bragging about Yoli:

I believe Yoli can realistically grab 10% market-share and when it does Yoli will be one of the largest companies in the MLM marketplace, of all time. And I honestly think 20% is conservative. And if you know me, you know I'm not prone to exaggeration and hype (in fact, I've been battling against it for over 19 years as founder & CEO of MarketWave, Inc.).

wserra wrote:I try to steer clear of personalities, but I can't help it here.

A lawyer in Franklin, TN, named Kevin Thompson styles himself "The MLM Attorney". I know nothing about him, and he doesn't tell you much. What he does tell you raises questions, such as his glowing opinion of Clements. For example, according to Thompson, Clements is "one of the most sought after expert witnesses for companies in litigation". Any companies? Fortune 500 companies seek him out? Pardon my laughter.

Not the original thread that quote is from, but it serves it's purpose here.

Regarding his time in court as an "expert witness", Lenny finally took the time to enlighten us.

Nichole Aubert v. LifeWave, Inc.State Court of Gwinnett County, State of Georgia. Case no. 4C-01520-2 Wrongful termination; Lost Income Participating on behalf of the defendant. Case is currently active.

Robert Danuff v. Nerium International, et al.Superior Court of the State of California, for the County of Orange. Case no. 30-2013 00680970-CU-PO-CJC Negligence; Lost Income. Participating on behalf of the plaintiff. Case is currently active.

Matthew Nestler v. Jeunesse Global, and Kevin GiguereCircuit Court for the Eighteenth Judicial Circuit, for Seminole County, Florida. Wrongful Termination; Lost Income. Participating on behalf of the plaintiff. Case is currently active.

As to how much he actually contributed in those cases, I have no idea. But it seems an impressive list. The word must getting around about Lenny's expertise in these matters.