Yea I don't see a reason for a proxbox person to be at PLAYSTATION universe either but to each their own I guess. Your statement does raise an eyebrow, I'm assuming that it's true? a proxbox member got a staff position?

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Of course it is true. Many members have noticed it yet threads get locked, post get deleted. There is a change going on in PSU and you will prob see many members, some who have been around a long time, leave.

Of course it is true. Many members have noticed it yet threads get locked, post get deleted. There is a change going on in PSU and you will prob see many members, some who have been around a long time, leave.

dang. I didnt know I just really started getting to using the forums. I don't understand why that would happen though? I mean, some people have invested a lot of time and finger action into this site because they enjoy playstation. wouldn't the creator be pro-playstation and due to that fact kind of keep the pro-Xbox guys out of staff positions except for moderating the Xbox forums?

The following is purely anecdotal (so may or may not mean diddly squat): three acquaintances of mine were put off by the initial XBox One unveil due to the focus on the social media/TV focus. They've not given any indication they'll be heading back towards the Xbox (they've been long-time devotees of the 360).

The following is purely anecdotal (so may or may not mean diddly squat): three acquaintances of mine were put off by the initial XBox One unveil due to the focus on the social media/TV focus. They've not given any indication they'll be heading back towards the Xbox (they've been long-time devotees of the 360).

well that does mean something because its not just those three acquaintances

well that does mean something because its not just those three acquaintances

Thanks, forma. I threw it in to the discussion as the hardware considerations haven't really come in to the mix for them (one of them is in IT). Sony's more focussed-on-the-game element has in the instance above proven a sure winner.

At this rate, the thread will get locked. I personally feel like there should be a balance here, it triggers discussion and debates when it comes to gaming. If there are some members who either annoy me or I disagree completely with, the ignore feature is there (Which I've only used on one person ever). Oh man how I wish I could ignore Soldier 95B sometimes though.

Yeah, I've actually decided to put one certain extremely pro Xbox member on my ignore list who likes to follow me around. lol But hes the only member on my ignore list so far.

Of course it is true. Many members have noticed it yet threads get locked, post get deleted. There is a change going on in PSU and you will prob see many members, some who have been around a long time, leave.

Also I see this thread got voted down to 3 stars. Not hard to guess which members most likely did that. lol

Well there is a member or two I can think of right now who openly take everything negative about the xbox as false or just a rumor, but anything positive is immediately true. The information about digital foundry saying that the power of the cloud was smoke and mirrors was immediately shot down as them being idiots and untrustworthy, but then the same guys ran the new info about the 192GB/s memory speed and now they are trustworthy again.

I do personally like xbox fans on this forum though, they provide some contrast to the discussions and keep things interesting. It can be annoying on both sides when either fanboy gets overly biased and refuses to acknowledge or even entertain some discussions.

"Bigfoot is blurry, that is the problem...it is not the photographers fault...Bigfoot is blurry and that is extra scary to me because there is an extra large out-of-focus creature roaming the countryside....Run he's fuzzy, get out of here" ~ Mitch Hedburg, RIP you crazy fool

Thanks, forma. I threw it in to the discussion as the hardware considerations haven't really come in to the mix for them (one of them is in IT). Sony's more focussed-on-the-game element has in the instance above proven a sure winner.

Your welcome bro. and yes, their emphasis on GAMING and making it 100% about that sure seems to be a terrific strategy when placed against a home entertainment system that tries to do much. just my humble opinion and I'm not trying to flame with that statement either

Of course they do. At $500, the same price as the Xbox One, PS4 will be more powerful, boast the same features, if not more (minus voice control) as well as Sony having a history of owning the best exclusive IPs of any console. It doesn't surprise me that people would rather buy a PS4 if they were the same price. It's would be a no contest for me either way, the $100 price difference is just a bonus on top! It's just a shame the great prices the US is getting is reflected in Europe and the UK.

Of course they do. At $500, the same price as the Xbox One, PS4 will be more powerful, boast the same features, if not more (minus voice control) as well as Sony having a history of owning the best exclusive IPs of any console. It doesn't surprise me that people would rather buy a PS4 if they were the same price. It's would be a no contest for me either way, the $100 price difference is just a bonus on top! It's just a shame the great prices the US is getting is reflected in Europe and the UK.

well now you do have to consider xbox's superior move technology as well as the voice like u said. we have yet to see if the eye can compete with kinect. but besides that I agree the ps4 would be better in every way

More technology does not equate to better technology. Sony lucked out with GDDR5 ram prices, that's all this was, it could have gone either way. The same idea goes with the APU vs the CPU+GPU. It might be less individual parts, but everything is still there.

This is one of those rare instances where everything just worked out.

Originally Posted by forrma

well now you do have to consider xbox's superior move technology as well as the voice like u said. we have yet to see if the eye can compete with kinect. but besides that I agree the ps4 would be better in every way.

Voice would be interesting if they can actually get it to work as advertised, I have never had a voice tech or program work well enough to make them worth using over traditional control methods.

Kinect is the only potential advantage. It might take off and finally change what we know of gaming, then and again it might just be a paperweight that you need to have connected. With the higher price point and less known potential than a product by a company that managed to match them in a previous generation despite all of the issues (high prices, production, game development), this lowers the chance that Kinect will become a successful risk.

Originally Posted by VayMasters86

Okay, taking bets. What year and month will Respawn be closed by EA! My guess, May 2021.

More technology does not equate to better technology. Sony lucked out with GDDR5 ram prices, that's all this was, it could have gone either way. The same idea goes with the APU vs the CPU+GPU. It might be less individual parts, but everything is still there.

This is one of those rare instances where everything just worked out.

Voice would be interesting if they can actually get it to work as advertised, I have never had a voice tech or program work well enough to make them worth using over traditional control methods.

Kinect is the only potential advantage. It might take off and finally change what we know of gaming, then and again it might just be a paperweight that you need to have connected. With the higher price point and less known potential than a product by a company that managed to match them in a previous generation despite all of the issues (high prices, production, game development), this lowers the chance that Kinect will become a successful risk.

that's true with all innovation. some work and others get tossed because there's no demand for them. as you said, time will give the answers to that

Soldier, just because there may be millions of Kinect's in homes does NOT mean there would be more developer support.

Agreed. But there will be a better chance of it. Like I said earlier, I never use Kinect 1.0 (literally collecting dust). And Kinect 2.0 might literally collect dust if they don't embrace and support it better.

Originally Posted by Sufi

lol what are you, 42?

Oh.

Originally Posted by chrisw26308

Lol Sufi, I'm 41 been gaming for 33 years. Not heavily, just mainly play aaa stuff.

Its just in my blood.

41 here as well. Started with Pong, then Atari 2600, then Atari 5200, then Intellivision and Coleco Vision (as well as TRS-80, Commodore 64 and Commodore 128...spy hunter baby!), sprinkled with Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis, PS2, PS3, Xbox Original and Xbox 360. Oh man....it's been a great many years of gaming. I think I got pong around 1976 or so? Putting me at 5 years old. That would be 36 years of gaming! Woot!

Originally Posted by mickice

Even without Kinect I bet SONY can build cheaper hardware and in general Cerney-God made the architecture cheaper.

I imagine anyone can build hardware for less than MS. MS can't build hardware to save their life.

Originally Posted by K2D

Can you make a case - why gamers NEED kinect?

They don't need it. I don't need it.

Originally Posted by Fon

Oh man how I wish I could ignore Soldier 95B sometimes though.

Feel free to PM me if you find any issues with my posts, or report me if you find my posts as trolling. I enjoy both consoles and support them both on both sides of the forum. You can also email me direct if you have any concerns.

meh i don't feel guilty, for all we know, they've already forgotten what i said by now.

lol

EDIT: that reminds me. I just posted this on facebook. Sumi is my wife's nickname.

*looking for apartments*Me: *clicks* Hmm.Sumi: That's a retirement community.Me: This is not bad, might not be so expensive.Sumi: It's where old people live.Me: Well, we don't have to worry about crime....I guess they could always commit crime by running us over.Sumi: lol.Me: ...they could accidentally break in our cars thinking it was theirs.Sumi: LOL.

meh i don't feel guilty, for all we know, they've already forgotten what i said by now.

lol

EDIT: that reminds me. I just posted this on facebook. Sumi is my wife's nickname.

*looking for apartments*Me: *clicks* Hmm.Sumi: That's a retirement community.Me: This is not bad, might not be so expensive.Sumi: It's where old people live.Me: Well, we don't have to worry about crime....I guess they could always commit crime by running us over.Sumi: lol.Me: ...they could accidentally break in our cars thinking it was theirs.Sumi: LOL.

a hahahahahahahahah. or break in ur house with their car not knowing how to drive lol