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My math sucks but am I right in saying that if we win every game from here on out we get 8 points. The King and Shark can't get 5 points and Phoenix can't get 4 points in their remaining games? Not looking too good...

Might as well lose this and go up a spot in the draft on the avalanche.

I hate to agree with this type of statement but draft position is probably more important than winning meaningless games at this point. To me right now it's win win. I can't cheer for them to lose so if they win great but if they lose I know it's probably going to ensure the Flames draft ahead of the Avalanche and there should be a very good player or two in that range who I would hate to lose to a division rival. I hate that feeling at the draft when you are hoping for teams just ahead of you to pass on players you desperately want to be available to your team.

I pray to god they win tonight so tomorrow can be at least meaningful. I'm flying to Vancouver today for the game tomorrow, if they lose tonight I'm pretty sure tomorrow could get ugly not only for the Flames but me lol.

I hate to agree with this type of statement but draft position is probably more important than winning meaningless games at this point. To me right now it's win win. I can't cheer for them to lose so if they win great but if they lose I know it's probably going to ensure the Flames draft ahead of the Avalanche and there should be a very good player or two in that range who I would hate to lose to a division rival. I hate that feeling at the draft when you are hoping for teams just ahead of you to pass on players you desperately want to be available to your team.

At any draft position it's pretty hard to tell or some perennial bad teams wouldn't stay bad for so long. However you want as much control over who you pick as possible. At 11 you may pick the guy who doesn't turn out as well as the one picked at 12 but at least you had the choice. Sucks when the far better player gets picked at 11 and you never had a shot at 12 to even have the option of picking that player because you won a meaningless game 79.

I hate to agree with this type of statement but draft position is probably more important than winning meaningless games at this point. To me right now it's win win. I can't cheer for them to lose so if they win great but if they lose I know it's probably going to ensure the Flames draft ahead of the Avalanche and there should be a very good player or two in that range who I would hate to lose to a division rival. I hate that feeling at the draft when you are hoping for teams just ahead of you to pass on players you desperately want to be available to your team.

I thought the Avs traded their 1st to Washington this year, so we'd be picking ahead of the Caps instead of the Avs afaik. However, since the Avs and Caps are tied with their own draft picks, if we win tonight we could potentially drop 2 spots in the draft, assuming one of Buffalo or Washington make the playoffs in the east. Lose and we stay in 11th which is the best position we can draft in this year. Win and we could fall to 13th, which given what we've seen the past couple years, I expect the Flames to do.

At any draft position it's pretty hard to tell or some perennial bad teams wouldn't stay bad for so long. However you want as much control over who you pick as possible. At 11 you may pick the guy who doesn't turn out as well as the one picked at 12 but at least you had the choice. Sucks when the far better player gets picked at 11 and you never had a shot at 12 to even have the option.

Unless the guy you want turns out to be a bust and it would have been better off drafting after him. Would you have been happier with Rico Fata or Manny Malhotra? Being up or down one position (all other things being equal) could be a blessing either way and you won't know until a few years after the fact.

To me the draft is all about probabilities and the differential between 11 and 12 in most cases would be pretty small.

With that said, I would rather not pass Washington, Buffalo and Colorado and fail to make the playoffs yet I cannot cheer for the Flames to lose.

In other words I have no idea what I want.

Last edited by SeoulFire; 03-30-2012 at 09:33 AM.

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