Pembrokeshire County Council chief executive Bryn Parry-Jones will not follow the example of his counterpart in Carmarthenshire by standing aside while police investigate 'unlawful' pension payments he received, the Western Telegraph can confirm.

On Friday it was announced that Carmarthenshire County Council chief executive Mark James would stand aside while police investigated the 'unlawful' pension payments scandal that has rocked both Pembrokeshire and Carmarthenshire local authorities.

Today (Monday) the Western Telegraph asked if Mr Parry-Jones would also stand aside while police carried out their work.

A spokesman for Pembrokeshire County Council, said: "The purpose of the police investigation, announced on 12th February, is to ascertain whether or not any criminal offences have taken place.

"It is not an investigation into the conduct of any individual member of staff."

Pembrokeshire County Council leader, Councillor Jamie Adams, added: “Given these circumstances, it is difficult to see how paying the Chief Executive to remain at home represents effective use of public money.”

'Strip BPJ of returning officer duties'

Meanwhile, Welsh Labour AM Rebecca Evans has called for Mr Parry-Jones to be stripped of his role as Returning Officer for Wales in the European elections this May until local councillors are allowed to debate the issue properly and the police investigation has concluded.

This follows last week’s full council meeting that descended into farce after the council enlisted lawyer declared a number of people had pre-determined the outcome of the discussion which led to a walk-out and prevented a vote on suspending Mr Parry-Jones.

Rebecca Evans said: “After the embarrassing spectacle that was Friday’s ‘extraordinary meeting’ of Pembrokeshire council, it is clear that the Pembrokeshire council leadership is content to allow the debate to descend into farce rather than grapple openly and in public with the serious issues presented by the Wales Audit Office reports.

“It would now be utterly preposterous for Bryn Parry Jones to preside over the European Ballot as Returning Officer while his pension payments are still under police investigation. The public must have complete confidence in the election process, and in all of the people involved. Until the police investigation is concluded, alternative arrangements must be made – and that means relieving Bryn Parry Jones of his Returning Officer role.”

It may be worth the WT requesting an FOI statement to see how many PCC staff have been suspended and for what reason. I understand it is quite usual for people to be suspended for quite minor reasons pending an investigation.

It may be worth the WT requesting an FOI statement to see how many PCC staff have been suspended and for what reason. I understand it is quite usual for people to be suspended for quite minor reasons pending an investigation.South of the Landsker

Pembrokeshire County Council leader, Councillor Jamie Adams, added: “Given these circumstances, it is difficult to see how paying the Chief Executive to remain at home represents effective use of public money.”

Really..............
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You couldn't make it up.

And I quote:
Pembrokeshire County Council leader, Councillor Jamie Adams, added: “Given these circumstances, it is difficult to see how paying the Chief Executive to remain at home represents effective use of public money.”
Really..............
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You couldn't make it up.chizy

This is the icing on the cake we should rename PCC the Addams family, I am sure the bloggers can put the names of the characters in the programme to current councillors. BPJ hs had £50k of benefits which is not taxable so I wonder if this was paid into an offshore account. At least the Carmarthenshire CEO had the balls to stand aside while the investigation takes place. On not our Bryn no one is saying he is guilty but have the decency to stand aside while the investigation takes place. Who is the spokes person for the council.

This is the icing on the cake we should rename PCC the Addams family, I am sure the bloggers can put the names of the characters in the programme to current councillors. BPJ hs had £50k of benefits which is not taxable so I wonder if this was paid into an offshore account. At least the Carmarthenshire CEO had the balls to stand aside while the investigation takes place. On not our Bryn no one is saying he is guilty but have the decency to stand aside while the investigation takes place. Who is the spokes person for the council.Welshman23

Well what a surprise. Utter comtemp from BPJ and his cronies towards the electorate. So it's not in public interest to pay him whilst at home, yet they can afford a top barrister to travel down from London. BJP should be forced to stand down. Bring in the WAG to run the council and sort it out once and for all . Really dispicable. Oh and they wonder why people dont vote - why bother when it makes no difference!

Well what a surprise. Utter comtemp from BPJ and his cronies towards the electorate. So it's not in public interest to pay him whilst at home, yet they can afford a top barrister to travel down from London. BJP should be forced to stand down. Bring in the WAG to run the council and sort it out once and for all . Really dispicable. Oh and they wonder why people dont vote - why bother when it makes no difference!ukwoody

Jamie Adams said that under these circumstances it is difficult to see how paying the chief executive to stay at home represents effective use of public money.
How can the leader of the council make such a statement when he can happily squander public money on a barrister to perpetrate the farcical events of last Friday
The same leader can also claim expenses going back years,against regulations .
Furtermore,where was the protagonist when the Western Telegraph asked if he was going to stand aside while the enquiry took place..Do we need to add to the expense of a council spokesperson to speak on his behalf.

It appears that farmer adams is breeding a super pig.It will be known as the greedy pig.It is immune from all illnesses and a spokesman said that it is hoped that very soon it will be immune from prosecution

Jamie Adams said that under these circumstances it is difficult to see how paying the chief executive to stay at home represents effective use of public money.
How can the leader of the council make such a statement when he can happily squander public money on a barrister to perpetrate the farcical events of last Friday
The same leader can also claim expenses going back years,against regulations .
Furtermore,where was the protagonist when the Western Telegraph asked if he was going to stand aside while the enquiry took place..Do we need to add to the expense of a council spokesperson to speak on his behalf.
It appears that farmer adams is breeding a super pig.It will be known as the greedy pig.It is immune from all illnesses and a spokesman said that it is hoped that very soon it will be immune from prosecutionSeymour Clearly

this man is treating the Pembrokeshire people with contempt, where is the welsh assembly in all this saga. They must take over this undemocratic council, where then hopefully the voice of the electorate will be heard.

this man is treating the Pembrokeshire people with contempt, where is the welsh assembly in all this saga. They must take over this undemocratic council, where then hopefully the voice of the electorate will be heard.seaveiw

Why oh why does Mr Adams keep defending him, is he that naïve to think BPJ would stand by him if he were in trouble. Other than the ones who have already spoken out why don't they stand up to this dictatorship!

Why oh why does Mr Adams keep defending him, is he that naïve to think BPJ would stand by him if he were in trouble. Other than the ones who have already spoken out why don't they stand up to this dictatorship!SM1968

Councillor Jamie Adams, added: “Given these circumstances, it is difficult to see how paying the Chief Executive to remain at home represents effective use of public money.

What does the CEO effectively do for this payment of public money?

Councillor Jamie Adams, added: “Given these circumstances, it is difficult to see how paying the Chief Executive to remain at home represents effective use of public money.
What does the CEO effectively do for this payment of public money?Justiceforall

Justiceforall wrote:
Councillor Jamie Adams, added: “Given these circumstances, it is difficult to see how paying the Chief Executive to remain at home represents effective use of public money.

What does the CEO effectively do for this payment of public money?

Perhaps Adams thinks differently If someone at the Council is on £20k rather than £200k PA? It's surely council policy to suspend someone at that level If complaints have been made or the Police are investigating them

[quote][p][bold]Justiceforall[/bold] wrote:
Councillor Jamie Adams, added: “Given these circumstances, it is difficult to see how paying the Chief Executive to remain at home represents effective use of public money.
What does the CEO effectively do for this payment of public money?[/p][/quote]Perhaps Adams thinks differently If someone at the Council is on £20k rather than £200k PA? It's surely council policy to suspend someone at that level If complaints have been made or the Police are investigating themteifion

seaveiw wrote:
this man is treating the Pembrokeshire people with contempt, where is the welsh assembly in all this saga. They must take over this undemocratic council, where then hopefully the voice of the electorate will be heard.

I wrote to the WG in October last year and the reply I got was that they were aware of PCC's failings but were taking no reaction...that was before the Auditor came to his current conclusion. I have written to them again, it will be interesting to see what comes of it...if anything..nothing I suspect and also regarding BPJ this is not the first time he has faced us off is it?

[quote][p][bold]seaveiw[/bold] wrote:
this man is treating the Pembrokeshire people with contempt, where is the welsh assembly in all this saga. They must take over this undemocratic council, where then hopefully the voice of the electorate will be heard.[/p][/quote]I wrote to the WG in October last year and the reply I got was that they were aware of PCC's failings but were taking no reaction...that was before the Auditor came to his current conclusion. I have written to them again, it will be interesting to see what comes of it...if anything..nothing I suspect and also regarding BPJ this is not the first time he has faced us off is it?Gogledd

The despicable,deplorabl
e,contemptible,obsce
ne,underhanded
actions that this PUBLIC SERVANT has overseen lately
have plumbed even greater depths!!!
To expect him to do THE DECENT THING stretches the
imagination too much!!
How much longer can WAG wait before they take action.??
It is heartening to see that a concerned local resident is
organising a petition to WAG.
Contact information can be found on"another website"

The despicable,deplorabl
e,contemptible,obsce
ne,underhanded
actions that this PUBLIC SERVANT has overseen lately
have plumbed even greater depths!!!
To expect him to do THE DECENT THING stretches the
imagination too much!!
How much longer can WAG wait before they take action.??
It is heartening to see that a concerned local resident is
organising a petition to WAG.
Contact information can be found on"another website"Harrygrayballs

well this sums bryn up perfectly, the arrogrance and the contempt he is showing towards 'his' employs and the people of pembrokeshire is unbelievable. he is sitting in his ivory tower counting his money while dumping big time on us plebs he 'rules'. 'the love of money is the root of all eveil'. the man hasnt got one shred of common decency in his bones. and as for the councillors and council officers who decide to supoort the fearless leader, shame on you.

well this sums bryn up perfectly, the arrogrance and the contempt he is showing towards 'his' employs and the people of pembrokeshire is unbelievable. he is sitting in his ivory tower counting his money while dumping big time on us plebs he 'rules'. 'the love of money is the root of all eveil'. the man hasnt got one shred of common decency in his bones. and as for the councillors and council officers who decide to supoort the fearless leader, shame on you.billbob

South of the Landsker wrote:
It may be worth the WT requesting an FOI statement to see how many PCC staff have been suspended and for what reason. I understand it is quite usual for people to be suspended for quite minor reasons pending an investigation.

If there really is a precedent in the council HR policies and practices for officers to be suspended for 'minor reasons pending an investigation' then would it be within council HR policy for BPJ to do the same? and if so is it a breach of council HR policy for him not to do so??

[quote][p][bold]South of the Landsker[/bold] wrote:
It may be worth the WT requesting an FOI statement to see how many PCC staff have been suspended and for what reason. I understand it is quite usual for people to be suspended for quite minor reasons pending an investigation.[/p][/quote]If there really is a precedent in the council HR policies and practices for officers to be suspended for 'minor reasons pending an investigation' then would it be within council HR policy for BPJ to do the same? and if so is it a breach of council HR policy for him not to do so??pembrokedock123

Well done to Rebecca Evans. It would be ridiculous if the Returning Officer for the Euro elections were to be under police investigation. Surely WLGA and the Electoral Commission would not be happy about that? Time for someone else to have a go at counting the reducing number of voting papers at each election - I wonder why people seem to have less and less faith in the democratic system?

Well done to Rebecca Evans. It would be ridiculous if the Returning Officer for the Euro elections were to be under police investigation. Surely WLGA and the Electoral Commission would not be happy about that? Time for someone else to have a go at counting the reducing number of voting papers at each election - I wonder why people seem to have less and less faith in the democratic system?pembrokedock123

Down to the Senedd I guess, let's see if they have a backbone or a pair of b***s

[quote][p][bold]seaveiw[/bold] wrote:
hope someone drops a quiet word in David Camerons ear today re this continuing saga[/p][/quote]Down to the Senedd I guess, let's see if they have a backbone or a pair of b***steifion

anyone saw y byd ar bedwar on s4c? there's a catch up service with subtitles - apparently Bryn Jones is always busy BUT never in the council offices - wonder if he's fled somewhere that doesn't have an extradition thingy with the UK - where was jamie on Holiday over Xmas to change the subject ;-)

anyone saw y byd ar bedwar on s4c? there's a catch up service with subtitles - apparently Bryn Jones is always busy BUT never in the council offices - wonder if he's fled somewhere that doesn't have an extradition thingy with the UK - where was jamie on Holiday over Xmas to change the subject ;-)Tttoommy