Note: The administration of testosterone is banned. The presence of a testosterone (T) to epitestosterone (E) ratio greater than six (6) to one (1) in the urine of a competitor constitutes an offense unless there is evidence that this ratio is due to a physiological or pathological condition, e.g. low epitestosterone excretion, androgen production by tumor, enzyme deficiencies.

( The responsible authorities ban the use of substances and of methods that alter the integrity and validity of urine samples used in doping controls. Examples of banned methods are catheterization, urine substitution and/or tampering, inhibition of renal excretion. e.g. by probenecid and related compounds, and epitestosterone administration.)

III. CLASSES OF DRUGS SUBJECT TO CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS

C. Local anesthetics

Injectable local anesthetics are permitted under the following conditions:

(a) that bupivacaine, lidocaine, mepivacaine, procaine etc. are used but not cocaine.

Vasoconstrictor agents (e.g. adrenaline) may be used in conjunction with local aesthetics.

(b) only local or intra-articular injections may be administered;

(c) only when medically justified (i.e. the details including diagnosis, dose and route of

administration must be submitted immediately in writing to the relevant medical authority.

D. Corticosteroids

The use of Corticosteroids is banned except

(a) for topical use (aural, opthalmological and dermatogical) but not rectal;

Caution: This is not an exhaustive list of banned substances. It is provided only to give the reader a more comprehensive list of banned substances. Many substances that do not appear on this expanded list are considered banned under the term "and related substances".

NGA BANNED SUBSTANCESThe National Gym Association, Inc. (NGA) bans the following substances and related compounds and their use constitutes grounds for dismissal from NGA competitions and suspension from membership in the organization.

PRESCRIPTION DIURETICS. (Fen-Phen and any other prescription weight-loss substances used for bodybuilding purposes, even when physician-prescribed, are banned by the NGA)

PERSCRIPTION PSYCHOMOTOR STIMULANTS. (example: Amphetamines).

MUSCLE IMPLANTS OF ANY KIND.

CHECMICAL/DRUGS FOR THE PURPOSE OF DECEIVING OR PASSING THE POLYGRAPH TEST.

CLENBUTEROL

ANY ILLEGAL OR ILLICIT BODYBUILDING DRUG OR SUBSTANCE.

ANY FDA-BANNED SUBSTANCE EXCEPT IF OTHERWISE INDICATED.

ANY IOC-BANNED SUBSTANCE EXCEPT IF OTHERWISE INDICATED.

Note: DHEA, Androstenedione, Norandrostenedione, and all other Hormone Precursors are not banned by the NGA. However these substances may cause an elevated T/E ratio in excess of the 6:1 limit or produce the presence of nandrolone or any other banned substance in the urine. If the promoter opts to enforce a urine sample for testing, the athlete is responsible for any and all substances that may cause a positive in a urine test.

the INBA doesn't allow pro hormones or ephedra or anything like that....do you know how long you have to be clean from them. They say they are a 5 yr drug free organization, but I don't think these things have been banned for 5 yrs. Anyway, I'm only asking because I don't honestly know when the last time I took them was. I'm pretty sure it was like 6 yrs ago, but I suppose it could have been 5.

the INBA doesn't allow pro hormones or ephedra or anything like that....do you know how long you have to be clean from them. They say they are a 5 yr drug free organization, but I don't think these things have been banned for 5 yrs. Anyway, I'm only asking because I don't honestly know when the last time I took them was. I'm pretty sure it was like 6 yrs ago, but I suppose it could have been 5.

At my last show (2004 INBF Northeast America) I believe their urine testing was only good for 1 year back

That's another thing that discredits natural bodybuilding contests. Guys stick needles in their asses for years, go off for a year and compete as a natty? It's the way things are in our world I guess. Our morals and values basically suck.

first, the ratio of 6-1 is too high. A normal male has 1-1 ratio, the olympics recognized this and changed to 4-1 as did the wwe and pro sports and athletic commisions. You can use test suspension the day of test at 50 mgs and pass the test. that and the fact that your not testing throughout the legnth of time needed to be natural and drugs metabolites can leave system in days. No such thing as legit natural....always be speculation and rightfully so because you can not legit test some one....take a look at the olympic athletes and talk to some pro athletes that get tested and then tell me differently. facts, which really suck but are a reality.

At my last show (2004 INBF Northeast America) I believe their urine testing was only good for 1 year back

That's another thing that discredits natural bodybuilding contests. Guys stick needles in their asses for years, go off for a year and compete as a natty? It's the way things are in our world I guess. Our morals and values basically suck.

Let me get this right, are you saying that you believe that the urine test you took could detect substances in your urine for up to a year? If you do think so then I URGE you to learn just a little bit about bio chemesrty and these test...For your own good please don't repeat that again, unless you want to look ridiculous.

Let me get this right, are you saying that you believe that the urine test you took could detect substances in your urine for up to a year? If you do think so then I URGE you to learn just a little bit about bio chemesrty and these test...For your own good please don't repeat that again, unless you want to look ridiculous.

I was never given a urine test. Only the top finishers were required to urine test. The INBF gives poly exams to all competitors (which is an even bigger joke). The word I'd heard was unine testing can detect as far back as 12 months for steriods. If this statement is ridiculous, lets hear YOUR bio lesson.

After seeing some of the guys backstage, I'd have to question the legitimacy of some of those dudes. Like I said in my earlier post, guys take that stuff for years, go broke, have health problems and/or get married. They finally come to their senses (or the wife finds out where all their money's going) and they stop using and compete as a natty?

In the perfect world, there'd be 3 bodybuilding stages. Those that use, those that used to use and those that have never used. Nuff said!

Like I said in my earlier post, guys take that stuff for years, go broke, have health problems and/or get married. They finally come to their senses (or the wife finds out where all their money's going) and they stop using and compete as a natty?

In the perfect world, there'd be 3 bodybuilding stages. Those that use, those that used to use and those that have never used. Nuff said!

Oh come on..... the rallying cry of the naties on the 'roiders is "all drugs". You guys say if you take away the 'roids, all the gains go away in a matter of months (and a lot of recently retired pros tend to be examples of this). If that's the case, why would you contend a guy that's been off 'roids for a whole year has an advantageover a lifetime natural?

Note: The administration of testosterone is banned. The presence of a testosterone (T) to epitestosterone (E) ratio greater than six (6) to one (1) in the urine of a competitor constitutes an offense unless there is evidence that this ratio is due to a physiological or pathological condition, e.g. low epitestosterone excretion, androgen production by tumor, enzyme deficiencies.

( The responsible authorities ban the use of substances and of methods that alter the integrity and validity of urine samples used in doping controls. Examples of banned methods are catheterization, urine substitution and/or tampering, inhibition of renal excretion. e.g. by probenecid and related compounds, and epitestosterone administration.)

III. CLASSES OF DRUGS SUBJECT TO CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS

C. Local anesthetics

Injectable local anesthetics are permitted under the following conditions:

(a) that bupivacaine, lidocaine, mepivacaine, procaine etc. are used but not cocaine.

Vasoconstrictor agents (e.g. adrenaline) may be used in conjunction with local aesthetics.

(b) only local or intra-articular injections may be administered;

(c) only when medically justified (i.e. the details including diagnosis, dose and route of

administration must be submitted immediately in writing to the relevant medical authority.

D. Corticosteroids

The use of Corticosteroids is banned except

(a) for topical use (aural, opthalmological and dermatogical) but not rectal;

Caution: This is not an exhaustive list of banned substances. It is provided only to give the reader a more comprehensive list of banned substances. Many substances that do not appear on this expanded list are considered banned under the term "and related substances".