luns101 wrote:Gee whiz, can't you guys just say thank you to Woodruff for putting himself out there and sharing this stuff. It's not easy to lead high school kids and motivate them to do hardly anything these days. If they weren't involved in these types of programs I'd hate to see how they could turn out.

At least you didn't get stuck sponsoring the chess team like I did the first year I taught, Woodruff. Count your blessings.

what was wrong with the chess team?

Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to defeat all evil. -Ephesians 6 KJV

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everywhere116 wrote:You da man! Well, not really, because we're colorful ponies, but you get the idea.

luns101 wrote:Gee whiz, can't you guys just say thank you to Woodruff for putting himself out there and sharing this stuff.

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Actually, no. The videos were terrible, the performance was awful. Since part of my life was wasted watching that dreck, it's only fair to let Woodruff know that he did a terrible job teaching those poor students a worthless routine that won't help them in any way in their lives.

I mean, he's never once held back from sharing his opinion about what other people do. Why shouldn't we return the favor?

Is it because steam will blast from his ears and, with a beet red face, he'll pound ham fisted insults into his keyboard? That seems kind of silly.

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beezer wrote:So do you have a sample email from Woodruff proving your case there, dave?

You won't get any of the PMs he's sent without a subpoena. I don't share Private Messages in public, unlike the Conquer Club Christian Posters (or the CCCP). Why, is Woodruff suddenly shy about all of the hateful PMs he sends? He can share them with you if he wants, but I think he should do it in private.

If you want examples of him putting people down and talking about how superior he is and then flipping out when anyone tells him he's actually not that great and that he shouldn't call people idiots all the time if he doesn't like reaping what he sows, just read his post history. You won't have to go back that far to see it. The fact that you don't recognize this as a consistent trait of Woodruff's in the public forum suggests you either hardly ever read things posted here (or only the threads that other Christians or conservatives tell you to read) or you're playing dumb.

On topic:

That baton twirling performance is boring and a waste of everyone's time!

jay_a2j wrote:hey if any1 would like me to make them a signature or like an avator just let me no, my sig below i did, and i also did "panther 88" so i can do something like that for u if ud like...

beezer wrote:So do you have a sample email from Woodruff proving your case there, dave?

You won't get any of the PMs he's sent without a subpoena. I don't share Private Messages in public, unlike the Conquer Club Christian Posters (or the CCCP). Why, is Woodruff suddenly shy about all of the hateful PMs he sends? He can share them with you if he wants, but I think he should do it in private.

Woodruff isn't shy about jack shit, as most of this forum is well aware. Which is why I have no problem at all calling you a lying jackass with the moral compass of Ted Bundy.

pimpdave wrote:If you want examples of him putting people down and talking about how superior he is and then flipping out when anyone tells him he's actually not that great and that he shouldn't call people idiots all the time if he doesn't like reaping what he sows, just read his post history. You won't have to go back that far to see it.

I'm pretty sure that even the folks that don't care for me due to my posting style are just as aware that I'm always very upfront and honest about things. Unlike your sick ass, I wouldn't stoop to lying about you. The sad truth is that I wouldn't need to.

pimpdave wrote:The fact that you don't recognize this as a consistent trait of Woodruff's in the public forum suggests you either hardly ever read things posted here (or only the threads that other Christians or conservatives tell you to read) or you're playing dumb.

See...pimpdave's posting style is much better than mine!

...I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.

beezer wrote:So do you have a sample email from Woodruff proving your case there, dave?

You won't get any of the PMs he's sent without a subpoena. I don't share Private Messages in public, unlike the Conquer Club Christian Posters (or the CCCP).

Alright, now you're starting to sound like you're unhinged. I've never liked Woodruff personally, but if he is doing something positive with these kids in the real world then why not acknowledge that on a basic level. I can understand being annoyed by the fella, but in this thread he's done nothing but be civil. The only time he's gone off on you is to defend himself.

That hasn't stopped him from going off on me (and many others) in different threads when I've been nothing but civil with him. And if making a silly joke (the CCCP thing) in the middle of a serious post makes you think I'm unhinged, then you're really not reading these posts accurately.

The fact is that Woodruff calls people idiots all over the place, stirs up strife with hateful PMs, then when someone finally calls him out in public, he spews invective and flames like a mad man. Then he claims he was trolled. All the while he keeps trying to get people banned. Usually for offenses he's been committing all along.

I, on the other hand, am not reporting him or anyone else. I see their existence here as being as valid as mine. Funny how hypocritical people like Woodruff, Phatscotty and Night Strike all are. Woodruff is really the one you should be rebuking here.

And no, he's making absolutely no positive contribution to the world or to those kids' lives. I'm sure he's just as abusive with them as he is to people here. Why should anyone congratulate him for that? Maybe he should try doing something worthwhile first, then start bragging.

Okay cool I'm glad we got this settled.

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jay_a2j wrote:hey if any1 would like me to make them a signature or like an avator just let me no, my sig below i did, and i also did "panther 88" so i can do something like that for u if ud like...

pimpdave wrote:That hasn't stopped him from going off on me (and many others) in different threads when I've been nothing but civil with him.

Perhaps you could provide some examples where I've gone off on you personally, pimpdave, when you were being "nothing but civil toward me"?

pimpdave wrote:That fact is that Woodruff calls people idiots all over the place, stirs up strife with hateful PMs

I do no such thing, you jackass.

pimpdave wrote:All the while he keeps trying to get people banned.

I have, and still do, try to get you banned, yes. That's pretty much the extent of it though.

pimpdave wrote:I, on the other hand, am not reporting him or anyone else. I see their existence here as being as valid as mine. Funny how hypocritical people like Woodruff, Phatscotty and Night Strike all are. Woodruff is really the one you should be rebuking here.

I don't believe I'm being hypocritical at all. You are an intentionally annoying troll. You should be banned. But I don't have friends among the moderation team like you do, so I'm out of luck in that regard.

pimpdave wrote:And no, he's making absolutely no positive contribution to the world or to those kids' lives. I'm sure he's just as abusive with them as he is to people here.

You really are unhinged. How sad.

...I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.

So much name calling! And those are just some recent examples of you calling people idiots. I'm sure you've reported them all too. Why is anyone supposed to be nice to you in return, ever? How unhinged must you be to think you're owed any kind of respect or charity in the slightest? You bring nothing but mean insults against individuals on this site.

I could find more, easily, but I think I've made my point. And amazingly, I did so without calling you any names or reporting you. Go figure. And I still see good in you. I still think maybe you can change.

jay_a2j wrote:hey if any1 would like me to make them a signature or like an avator just let me no, my sig below i did, and i also did "panther 88" so i can do something like that for u if ud like...

Actually, it wasn't a case my bragging that I was tattling on them. It was a case of my recognizing they were likely to get a vacation for those statements because unlike you, bradleybadly doesn't seem to have the moderators in his hip pocket.

pimpdave wrote:I could find more, easily, but I think I've made my point.

Yes, you did make the point that you don't have any PMs of the nature you claimed. Thank you for making that point for me.

...I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.

Bad dodge Woodruff. I've already said I won't release the hateful PMs you've sent me unless subpoenaed. I won't sacrifice my integrity to fall into a trap where you can report me for posting PMs in the open forum.

Above are all examples of how you flounce around the forum constantly calling people names and reporting them for chickenshit. Based on the idea that we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg, it's easy to reasonably extrapolate that you hit the report button more often than anyone else on this entire site.

It wasn't a dodge at all. And you won't release the alleged PMs because they don't exist and you know it.

As I said above, I won't fall into your trap to report me and try to get me banned for posting PMs in the open forum.

You don't need to post them in the open forum. In fact, that wouldn't even work, since that would simply give you the opportunity to edit them as you see fit. If you were serious about your claims, however, you would have your moderator friends expect to see the reported posts coming, not for the purposes of getting me in trouble (since you claim you won't do that) but rather as a way of proving your claim. The moderator could then state this thread whether that was true or not.

Any chance you'd get back on topic, now that your claims have effectively been refuted?

...I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.

I can't believe you guys can't see the humor in Dave's posts! The Tea Party stuff is hilarious. For what it's worth, I love the fact that he puts out things like the CCCP. It's entertaining guys, and that's how it should be taken. He's even quoted me as his sig and it's not a big deal.

Now c'mon, Woodruff - he's shown you some examples of how you have indeed called people idiots. That's what angers people here. You do call names and then pretend like you're not actually doing it OR that you're somehow justified in doing it. As bradleybadly used to point out, that indicates that you're probably doing it on purpose to illicit a response. I don't agree that you have a personality disorder, but if you are being intentionally annoying and getting off on that then you have some deep issues that need to be dealt with.

Woodruff, you've done a ton of good work with those kids. Who knows how many other kids you've helped out with in years past. (I don't know how many years you've been a teacher) But if you continue to act like you've done here in the past then probably the best thing to do is just ignore anything you ever write. I'll say it again, Woody - nicely done! You deserve respect for your efforts @ school. Now can you just acknowledge that the way you engage other people is bothering and try to change that maybe?

DangerBoy wrote:Now c'mon, Woodruff - he's shown you some examples of how you have indeed called people idiots. That's what angers people here. You do call names and then pretend like you're not actually doing it OR that you're somehow justified in doing it.

I've never denied doing that.

DangerBoy wrote:As bradleybadly used to point out, that indicates that you're probably doing it on purpose to illicit a response. I don't agree that you have a personality disorder, but if you are being intentionally annoying and getting off on that then you have some deep issues that need to be dealt with.

But pimpdave isn't being intentionally annoying?

...I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.