There are lots of attractive female planners in the US. Thing is, they usually work in the next city over. Grass is greener, you know.

From what I saw in school and witnessed at conferences, young female planners tend to be preppy sorority girl types, more so than the dress in blahhk and talk about ahht crowd. Not ALL of them, of course, but it leans that way. The planner I supervised at my previous job was a textbook hottie type, right down to the tramp stamp on her back.

Still, though, browse through planning department Web sites, and you'll think otherwise when you see photos like this:

One Cyburbia meme: all male planning directors MUST have beards. It's just a rule in the States.

Here's a photo from the planning director's breakfast at the last APA conference.

There are lots of attractive female planners in the US. Thing is, they usually work in the next city over. Grass is greener, you know.

From what I saw in school and witnessed at conferences, young female planners tend to be preppy sorority girl types, more so than the dress in blahhk and talk about ahht crowd. Not ALL of them, of course, but it leans that way. The planner I supervised at my previous job was a textbook hottie type, right down to the tramp stamp on her back.

Still, though, browse through planning department Web sites, and you'll think otherwise when you see photos like this:

One Cyburbia meme: all male planning directors MUST have beards. It's just a rule in the States.

Quick retrieval, Dan, but I'm still disturbed by a newbie's first, unedited posting that we're all dogs.

I consider myself hot , but only after I have been drinking and see my reflection in the porcelain goddess while bobbing for brown trout........

Guess I better head out to the garage.

Originally posted by Princess

In Sydney we tend to be a funky, arty, classy, sophisticated black-wearing bunch who associate with architects and designers. Is the US different?

Innocent question to follow...
So that's how all planners in Sydney are? How much do they pay you for that? Do you get any projects approved, or are they collecting dust on a self? Man, I must get a job there so I too can be a funky, arty, classy, sophisticated black-wearing bunch who associate with architects and designers .

Funny, just the other day RJ told me to clean up my garbage mouth in my yearly evaluation.

Oh and the answer to the "Is the US different?" question is yes and no. No if your a crappy conslutant that takes existing work and resells it back to the client. No wonder they can afford to be a funky, arty, classy, sophisticated black-wearing bunch who associate with architects and designers.

A guy once told me, "Do not have any attachments, do not have anything in your life you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you spot the heat around the corner."

I tend to be normal, non-goth, wear black only as accents. If someone sees me with an engineer or architect in a social situation, shoot me dead. Now,

"Well, who are you / Who are you...
Come on, tell me, who are you / Who are you...
Oh, I really want to know / Who are you...
Tell me, tell me, who are you / Who are you...
Come on, come on, who / Who are you...
Oh, who the f**k are you / Who are you..."

*shrug* I suppose I missed the ... unedited post? But it all seems in good fun.

That being said, my poor mug isn't plastered all over the gallery. Which is why you need to come to Canada and meet REAL planners, Ms. Princess. :P

In all seriousness, though, the attractiveness rating of the planners in my university program is... hm. Definitely depends on origin. The rurals tend to be frumpy, having never clothed thineselves in things other than animal skins and the like. I'm sure you understand. The rest of us are wonderful. *cough*

I can understand the dig though. I find that planning often rears its ugly, bigoted head and in one fell swoop dismisses all that is design and art. Planners aren't technical enough to be engineers and they aren't interesting (or pretentious) enough to be architects. That being said, they do a remarkable job of moderating the two, and old attitudes are probably changing. This is my evaluation of some of the rhetoric that flies around. Hell, I'd love to find planners that have read Jacobs or Corbusier or Alexander, or anything, for that matter. And if I hear one more person to my face blindly defend Portland simply because they hear it was kind of nifty I swear to god I'm gonna lose it. My feeling is probably incorrect, but I often detect an intellectual fear from planning folk. Too much blind blather and too little reflection. Though I'm now guilty of the blind blather. And hypocrisy. I'm going to end this now.

I'd take an architect over an engineer for social situations any day though. With an architect we can have fun: drink 40s and float burning models down the river, for example (dear god I wish I could say this was a tall tale). With an engineer I can hear about how great he is. Forever. UWaterloo engineers are the worst. Think high school glee club transposed to a 5000 strong troupe. Tra la la we are the engineers tra la la look at us we invented beer drinking tra la la. Idiots.

ya know how toilets flush the opposite direction Down Under, maybe the same works for making friends. rather than being nice to attract friends, you offend to make friends. maybe?

I don't think she meant any harm. Aussies have a much higher threshold for what could be considered offensive to someone by North American standards. In the US, if someone called me a Jewboy, it would almost always be an insult unless it was from a long-time best friend. In Australia, it could be a term of endearment from some friendly folks I just met just minutes ago.

I don't think she meant any harm. Aussies have a much higher threshold for what could be considered offensive to someone by North American standards. In the US, if someone called me a Jewboy, it would almost always be an insult unless it was from a long-time best friend. In Australia, it could be a term of endearment from some friendly folks I just met just minutes ago.

s'ok. i wasn't offend. 'cuz i know i am smokin hot! plus i tend to wear a lot of black and sometimes consider myself sophisticated. no preppy sorority girl here!!

In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.-Martin Luther King Jr.

I don't think she meant any harm. Aussies have a much higher threshold for what could be considered offensive to someone by North American standards. In the US, if someone called me a Jewboy, it would almost always be an insult unless it was from a long-time best friend. In Australia, it could be a term of endearment from some friendly folks I just met just minutes ago.

I'll give the benefit of the doubt. But next time I see a post like that, I'm going to copy/paste before it gets edited.