Why does everything involve money for us the fans ........pay for this pay for that .....nothing for free at all ....paying for radio coverage is one step to far .......money making scheme by the efl .......were have the days gone it was on merseyside wirral radio or mixlr...... it turns fans away not bringing us together ........rant over ......watch everyone attack me now coz im moaning again

When the club first announced that fans abroad would be able to watch streams there was unsurprisingly no mention of the commentary also being a paid service, or i may of missed it.

Just another nail in my opinion and fans being exploited for everything that can be squeezed out of them. Not blaming the club who can't really knock back a revenue stream that our competitors are probably utilising. And like it says above somebody will need paying for providing commentary and all that entails.

I'm going to bite the bullett and subscribe to it, and use it to watch the away games that are streamed. There's a guide on the net from a sunderland fan explaining how UK based fans can use the service intended for fans abroad.

853OKGYes, the commentators, sound crew and website staff /broadcasters should provide the service free of charge and not get any remuneration. Should be just a hobby for them.

We, the supporters are "supporting artistes" supplying sound and atmosphere for radio, sound, atmosphere and visuals for TV. If football is showbusiness, the show would not go on without us, and we should be paid as extras and walk-ons. Of course, we are only seen as a stream of revenue so we pay and pay and never get paid.

I do not believe there is anything that prevents free to air radio coverage. Other clubs, even ones with far less support than us, have their games broadcast by local stations. The sticking point, of course, is that a radio company has to WANT to broadcast Tranmere games to their listeners. The local stations do not want to do this, even the one that is supposedly a public service broadcaster. You get a 5 minute update and the occasional goal notification if you are lucky. I would respectfully suggest that this should be the real arrangement with which fans should be expressing their dissatisfaction.

To develop my point, if Premiership supporters held their nerve (which they wouldn't) and boycotted matches until prices were reduced and treatment of supporters improved, then clubs would be forced to do so because TV companies would not want "the best league in the world" to be seen playing in empty grounds wth no atmosphere. Supporters are viewed as passive, gullible consumers who can be treated any way business wants : change the match day? No problem. Change kick-off time? Okay. Difficult journey? Who cares? Expensive tickets? So what? Obviously, this applies far more to premiership clubs, but if their supporters had the bottle (which they don't) to challenge the people who run the game, they could ultimately win and the effects would gradually improve things down the leagues.

That's a fair point BBC Devon does a good coverage of Devon teams.The two premier teams already get a massive airing nationally and local BBC could look to offset this with a stronger focus.They do not have to consider the influence of commercial sponsors but scheduling is a test of how perceives local needs and balance.
That said I would have no problem paying a modest subscription to the club for their own broadcast if it was of a similar quality to the radio Wirral former commentary team.
I think MP is missing a trick here not so much as a revenue earner but as a away of promoting the club to the community.
My impression is that MP considers the views of supporters so perhaps the sound thing to do is for all who value a live broadcast to write to him

In the tinpot league we got free coverage of tranmere wer u wud of thort we wud of had to pay to give the club money as its a poor league ...now we are in league 2 we have to pay instead of it being free madness ........nothing from mark palios about this though either

mrGr33n13palios should, like, complain to the bbc or radio city or whoever.
i mean saturday afternoons should definitely be given over to an audience of a couple of hundred people. they should pay us for the privilege of lowering their listenership also.

he should at lease tweet some outrage to satisfy people who feel the world is unfair

We get that you dont approve of people complaining about this, but its a forum and they are allowed to voice their opinions.

HardlyYardleyTo develop my point, if Premiership supporters held their nerve (which they wouldn't) and boycotted matches until prices were reduced and treatment of supporters improved, then clubs would be forced to do so because TV companies would not want "the best league in the world" to be seen playing in empty grounds wth no atmosphere. Supporters are viewed as passive, gullible consumers who can be treated any way business wants : change the match day? No problem. Change kick-off time? Okay. Difficult journey? Who cares? Expensive tickets? So what? Obviously, this applies far more to premiership clubs, but if their supporters had the bottle (which they don't) to challenge the people who run the game, they could ultimately win and the effects would gradually improve things down the leagues.

Many Premiership club owners would lap that up, the ultimate for them is to discard the old guard work a day Fans in favour of all the new money, there are clubs in the premiership who could easily sell out the ground for in excess of £400 a head. There are clubs with waiting lists for season tickets costing thousands. It’s a modern business and being back in the EFL puts us back in the premiership telly rights plight of that modern business, the higher up the pyramid we climb the higher the cost to support.

mrGr33n13palios should, like, complain to the bbc or radio city or whoever.
i mean saturday afternoons should definitely be given over to an audience of a couple of hundred people. they should pay us for the privilege of lowering their listenership also.

he should at lease tweet some outrage to satisfy people who feel the world is unfair

We get that you dont approve of people complaining about this, but its a forum and they are allowed to voice their opinions.

Theres absolutely no need for your sarcastic comments.

Have a bit more respect for fellow posters .

i can be as sarcastic as i like mate.

i couldnt care less if my opinions are ridiculed, i'm not sure why you feel the need to protect people from sarcasm lol.

doesnt mean i dont respect the lad, i just think his whining on this matter is pathetic.

Unfair to say MP out of his depth. There may well be commercial restraints that make it unfeasible for the club to fund Radio commentary that we don't know about.

What I would be concerned about is BBC Radio Merseyside not representing their actual regulated catchment area and ignoring us when we are an EFL member. I, for one, don't want to know about a bunch of mercenaries dragged in by cash to play for those over the water who have no affiliation to the area.

We are the only club truly representing this area and we are ignored.

We can listen to how the Redsh1te and Bluenoses are getting on via many legitimate and illegitimate streams.... watching the games live, but can't even listen to what is going on with Rovers without paying for the "privilege".

Apologies, maybe a slight mis-use of the word but in another way not. Every EFL chairman/woman is in the same way and in that respect they're all out of their depth when it comes to them being allowed to give away free commentary.

I'd imagine he'd have said otherwise, otherwise...

But yes like you and another has said above, the real people we should vent at is Radio Merseyside and other radio stations in the area as it's them not pulling their finger out which is having the most effect on the greater fanbase who can't make every game.

mrGr33n13palios should, like, complain to the bbc or radio city or whoever.
i mean saturday afternoons should definitely be given over to an audience of a couple of hundred people. they should pay us for the privilege of lowering their listenership also.

he should at lease tweet some outrage to satisfy people who feel the world is unfair

We get that you dont approve of people

complaining about this, but its a forum and they are allowed to voice their opinions.

Theres absolutely no need for your sarcastic comments.

Have a bit more respect for fellow posters .

i can be as sarcastic as i like mate.

i couldnt care less if my opinions are ridiculed, i'm not sure why you feel the need to protect people from sarcasm lol.

doesnt mean i dont respect the lad, i just think his whining on this matter is pathetic.

does that qualify as an opinion i am entitled to voice?

Thats his opinion too, but hes not calling you pathetic is he?

Im sure youre intelligent enough to post on here without trying to ridicule other posters?

no. they mean that it will be broadcast over the digital spectrum and not the analogue FM one. only digital radio receivers will be able to pick it up.

it will still only be available locally unless the radio station hot the streams online or on an app like tuneinn. i'm not sure if they will be allowed to do that if ifollow have internet streaming rights.

mrGr33n13no. they mean that it will be broadcast over the digital spectrum and not the analogue FM one. only digital radio receivers will be able to pick it up.
it will still only be available locally unless the radio station hot the streams online or on an app like tuneinn. i'm not sure if they will be allowed to do that if ifollow have internet streaming rights.

Ah i see, always thought all DAB stations could also be steamed online due to the nature of them being “digital” broadcasts.

they think all new posters are a troll called goosed. and they are basically non friendly and paranoid to anyone whose name they dont recognise. especially if you happen to fall out of step with the consensus.

mrGr33n13its because you are a new poster.
they think all new posters are a troll called goosed. and they are basically non friendly and paranoid to anyone whose name they dont recognise. especially if you happen to fall out of step with the consensus.

We were all once new posters.

Some of us, don't post ridiculous posts and threads and when questioned state 'My opinion, don't care who i annoy lolz' like the 50+ year old that you said you were.

I've seen the paragraph now. I skimmed earlier and only saw the subscription stuff. In my defence i still don't see any confirmation that it will be in place.

I used to enjoy Mr greens posts but his confident assertion that I just came on here to bully a new poster leads me to scrutinise his judgement calls in the future - which I guess can only be a good thing in life generally. The minor escalation was quite amusing though.

mrGr33n13its because you are a new poster.
they think all new posters are a troll called goosed. and they are basically non friendly and paranoid to anyone whose name they dont recognise. especially if you happen to fall out of step with the consensus.

I feel threatend by this poster can he be removed please or the police will be involved

CaptainFriendlyUrgh!
I'm such a fool. Like an idiot I thought the £10 a match live stream (for games not on a Saturday) was only payable by non-subscribers. But alas the £4.49 really is just for audio.

I have the radio Wirral app but they don't have it on their published schedule for today.

You know what. I'm just gonna go to the game and my two and a half year old will just have to learn to like it.

CaptainFriendlyUrgh!
I'm such a fool. Like an idiot I thought the £10 a match live stream (for games not on a Saturday) was only payable by non-subscribers. But alas the £4.49 really is just for audio.

I have the radio Wirral app but they don't have it on their published schedule for today.

You know what. I'm just gonna go to the game and my two and a half year old will just have to learn to like it.

Lol! With regards to your last paragraph, it was third time lucky for me. The first two wanted to call child line to accuse me of torture! Assuming this is your first, hope you strike it lucky and he/she actually enjoys it! Pack a rucksack with plenty of bribes and distractions and remember, it's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog! (The little bleeders put up one helluva battle!). If you make it to half-time you've done well; give yourself a pat on the back, take on an energy drink, a few deep breaths, keep telling yourself you can do it (it's mind over matter)!
However, you'll need more stamina and strength than any player on the pitch to make it to full-time, but it's not impossible, it can be done. Your achievement will override anything that can be achieved on the pitch. Your weariness as you trudge away from the ground will be balanced by the warmth of knowing that you were the winner. There'll be knowing glances and nods of recognition from fathers who have trod the same path, who know your pain and bear the same scars; scars of battle that they wear with pride.
Good luck CaptainFriendly and sleep well tonight!

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