I wonder if this will force all devices that currently use this feature to recieve a required update to remove it. Or at least every phone coming afterwards.

Samsung has challenged this in the netherlands and won.

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It did work as expected in the Netherlands though, and Samsung has already brought the lowly Neonode N1m in front of the court there -- and had Apple's claims over slide to unlock determined to be "trivial and likely invalid", and the court refused to consider them.

On the contrary, I'm acting like all we ever see in these threads is people bashing Apple and calling them evil for patenting such things, despite the fact that Microsoft has patented plenty of ridiculous things.

The reason people bash Apple is because of Apple's ridiculous and obviously selfish patents, which is the SUBJECT OF THE THREAD. The topic is Apple, not Microsoft.

On the contrary, I'm acting like all we ever see in these threads is people bashing Apple and calling them evil for patenting such things, despite the fact that Microsoft has patented plenty of ridiculous things.

Microsoft's lime light in teh ridiculous has past when we knew with Microsoft, things like that was a norm. Apple has the spotlight now since we are going into mobile products now, of course theres going to be more apple bashing. The "now" tech is the mobile platform, Apple, having success in it will undoubtly get these kind of threads. Its not like its unforeseen.

later on, when another tech is in the spotlight, there will be bashing threads about it too.

Also remember that I believe this patent was applied for 2 years before the first iPhone was even released. This isn't a 'retrospective' patent. And as such, the patent office has to take into account the situation at the time of application, not right now.

Who cares when it was applied for, it's such a trivial, general use idea that it shouldn't be awarded a patent PERIOD.

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What?

On the contrary, I'm acting like all we ever see in these threads is people bashing Apple and calling them evil for patenting such things, despite the fact that Microsoft has patented plenty of ridiculous things.

Microsoft's lime light in teh ridiculous has past when we knew with Microsoft, things like that was a norm. Apple has the spotlight now since we are going into mobile products now, of course theres going to be more apple bashing. The "now" tech is the mobile platform, Apple, having success in it will undoubtly get these kind of threads. Its not like its unforeseen.

later on, when another tech is in the spotlight, there will be bashing threads about it too.

It's not really bashing when people give an appropriate negative response to a mega-corp that acts in a very dubious and amoral fashion.

The reason people bash Apple is because of Apple's ridiculous and obviously selfish patents, which is the SUBJECT OF THE THREAD. The topic is Apple, not Microsoft.

Better?

Indeed it is but people act like Apple's the only company that does this.

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Microsoft's lime light in teh ridiculous has past when we knew with Microsoft, things like that was a norm. Apple has the spotlight now since we are going into mobile products now, of course theres going to be more apple bashing. The "now" tech is the mobile platform, Apple, having success in it will undoubtly get these kind of threads. Its not like its unforeseen.

later on, when another tech is in the spotlight, there will be bashing threads about it too.

That's fair enough, although I'm mostly referring to the fact that many act as if Apple is the only company that does this.

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Who cares when it was applied for, it's such a trivial, general use idea that it shouldn't be awarded a patent PERIOD.

The point is, it wasn't a "general use" idea until Apple started using it.

There's nothing wrong with complaining at Apple as long as people don't act as if Apple is the only company that does this stuff.

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It's not really bashing when people give an appropriate negative response to a mega-corp that acts in a very dubious and amoral fashion.

Appropriate, is the key word here.

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Ultimately, why shouldn't they receive the patent for this? They were the first phone to implement it and it was something they thought up, no? Do all droids use this feature? For those that don't, what do they do?

Do all droids use this feature? For those that don't, what do they do?

AFAIK, all droids use it. It's too simple a concept to use. It basically says you can't lock the screen.

Idea!
Dear Android:
For new phones, create two options:
1. A screen lock like Garmin's
2. A screen lock like Yours/Apples, but on a mini-sensor. Swype finger across sensor to unlock. It's not the screen.

Screw you APPLE. Screw you.I dare an Pro-Apple Patent troll to argue in support of Apple NOW.

5, 4, 3, 2, 1.... Oh look, here's their main spokesman...

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ROFL... that's ridiculous. But let's not all hate on Apple here... Microsoft has some ridiculous patents themselves.... and Apple was the first to implement this weren't they?

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Indeed it is but people act like Apple's the only company that does this.

That's fair enough, although I'm mostly referring to the fact that many act as if Apple is the only company that does this.

The point is, it wasn't a "general use" idea until Apple started using it.

There's nothing wrong with complaining at Apple as long as people don't act as if Apple is the only company that does this stuff.

Appropriate, is the key word here.

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Ultimately, why shouldn't they receive the patent for this? They were the first phone to implement it and it was something they thought up, no? Do all droids use this feature? For those that don't, what do they do?

So much fail in your logic, it's not even funny. They shouldn't get a patent for this, because all they're going to do is use it to slow down competition.

You had to repeat 3 times that Apple is not the only company that does this, that doesn't make it ok for them to do this. They're doing it, and abusing it the most in present times.

No, they did not "think" this up, as it existed before. They copied it, AND implemented it. You know, kinda how Steve Jobs saw Xerox's GUI interface?

He saw it, copied it, implemented it. It's what Apple does best from the very beginning. They "innovate" existing ideas, patent them, and prevent others from using them. It's the Apple way, and why they get so much hate on OCN.

Speaking of Microsoft, I do wish they never bailed out Apple in the 90's.