The Taliban Home Video

Foreword: Long live the principles of the American Revolution
and the Bill of Rights. Those who run our land today are traitors to the
Old Republic, which they brought down through cunning and stealth.
They lie like Pharisees and demand our loyalty to their impostor state,
even as they use it as a puppet to advance foreign interests. Exposing
these traitors and foreign agents is clearly my patriotic duty.
I will not be intimidated into silence. Let the truth be told, and
let the chips fall where they may.

October 15 -- By now you have seen and digested the Taliban home
video, allegedly showing Osama bin Laden and a couple of his buddies sitting
outside their cave in Afganistan, talking about Operation 911. The
video happened to surface on a "Muslim" TV station (al-Jazeera) in the
puppet state of Qatar, just as the first US bombs were falling on Afganistan.

If the US and its pals could fake such a video -- and they're easy to
fake, either with morphing or stand-in impersonators -- why wouldn't they?
Think about it. You're going to bomb a destitute people in a destitute
land. You want to neutralize world outrage that will inevitably follow.
So you have a man -- I'll call him Osama bin Fake-It -- speak out as the
bombs fall. Fake-it sends a message that offends world conscience,
praising the slaughter of New York civilians, thereby neutralizing sympathy
the world might have for bin Laden's protectors (your intended bombing
victims).

The makers of the Taliban Home Video rely upon our having a short memory.
They hope we won't remember an authentic CNN interview with Osama Bin Laden,
conducted by Peter Arnett and shown in March, 1997. In that
interview, bin Laden makes his views clear. In the 2001 Taliban Home
Video, bin Fake-it turns Bin Laden's views around 180 degrees. Coincidentally,
the 180 degree turns just happen to serve US 2001 propaganda purposes.

The 1997 interview is now most newsworthy. Too bad CNN has not
re-released it, but keeping the public fully informed would not serve the
master's purpose. I have a copy of that 1997 CNN interview.
It was sent to me in 1998 and I distributed it with my commentary:
"Bin Laden: A Patriot in His Own Land." Both are attached below for your
reading convenience.

I would like to compare what Osama bin Laden said in 1997 with what
Osama bin Fake-it says in 2001. As I do this, you'll probably want
to refer to the transcript of bin Fake-it's remarks as shown on US TV on
October 7. I used the translation I found on the Houston Chronicle
webpage.
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/special/terror/front/1079137

Reporter: "Mr. bin Laden, you've declared a jihad against the United
States. Can you tell us why? And is the jihad directed against
the US government or the United States' troops in Arabia? What about
US civilians in Arabia or the people of the United States?"

Osama bin Laden: " . . . we have focused our declaration on striking
at the soldiers in the country of The Two Holy Places [Mecca and Medina]
... "

Speaking of the bombings of US troops in Riyadh and Al-Khobar (Dhahran),
bin Laden patiently explained their purpose was to get US occupation troops
out of Arabia. He had high praise for those who did the job.

Fair enough. In America, we also give high praise to our soldiers
when they perform heroically.

Elsewhere in the interview, Arnett asks bin Laden if the jihad will
stop when US troops leave Arabia. Bin Laden replies he wants US troops
out of *all* Muslim lands.

Let's consider the facts. US troops in Muslim lands have two purposes:
to suppress Arabs for Israel and to guarantee cheap oil for the US.
That is, US troop presence in Muslim lands is a violation of our own Constitution,
which says the armed forces are to be used for the common defense of the
Republic.

Our forces in the Muslim lands are occupation armies. Occupation
armies don't leave when politely asked. George Washington found
that out, so he had to kill lots of British soldiers and officers to drive
them out. Bin Laden sees his job as the same. Surely occupation
armies must be willing to take what they are willing to dish out.
Nothing Mr. Bin Laden says here is unusual or unreasonable.

* Bin Fake-it on striking military targets, 2001 Taliban Home Video
*

Bin Fake-it makes no mention of military targets. Given bin Laden's
1997 goals, Bin Fake-it seems oblivious to the outrageous flaw in Operation
911: no military damage to the enemy. How very odd.

* Bin Laden on striking civilian targets, 1997 CNN interview.*

In response to a question from Arnett, bin Laden says: "As for what
you asked whether jihad is directed against US soldiers, the civilians
in the land of the Two Holy Places (Mecca and Medina) or against civilians
in America, we have focused our declaration on striking at the soldiers
in the country of the Two Holy Places.

"The country of the Two Holy Places has in our religion a peculiarity
of its own over the other Muslim countries. In our religion, it is
not permissible for any non-Muslim to stay in our country. Therefore, even
though American civilians are not targeted in our plan, they must leave
..."

That's clear. Bin Laden is not targeting American civilians.
He just wants them to leave his country.

* Bin Fake-it on striking civilian targets, 2001 Taliban Home Video
*

Speaking of the demolition of the World Trade Center, Bin Fake-it says:
"God has blessed a group of vanguard Muslims ... to destroy America."

So now bin Fake-it is rejoicing that US civilians were killed, despite
the fact that killing civilians was not bin Laden's goal. Bin Fake-it
fails to mention that these US civilians were killed on US soil, even though
Bin Laden's 1997 goal was simply to get them to leave the Muslim countries.
What a stunning switch of strategy.

Arnett asks if bin Laden will quit the jihad if US troops leave Saudi
Arabia. Bin Laden replies US troops must leave Arabia and the rest
of the Muslim world. "... we have declared jihad against the US,
because in our religion it is our duty to make jihad so that God's word
is the one exalted to the heights and so that we drive the Americans away
from all Muslim countries."

So Bin Laden's goal was to get US military forces out of Muslim lands.
He does not say he wants to destroy America. He just wants us to
go away, much like we wanted the British to go away in 1776.

* Bin Fake-it's goal: To DESTROY America, 2001 Taliban Home Video
*

The obvious result of bin Fake-it's words "God has blessed a group of
vanguard Muslims ... to destroy America" will be used to justify increased
military presence in Muslim lands and provides the US with a perfect public
relations justification to flood Afganistan with US bombs and troops.

Recall that in the war with the USSR, the Muslims did not pursue the
Russians onto Russian soil. The Muslims were satisfied with driving
them out of Afghanistan. But now bin Fake-it invites open war, a
war he cannot possibly win. Strategically, praising Operation 911
was a disaster for an accomplished strategist and tactician.

* Bin Laden's expansive statements on Jewish control of the United
States, 1997 CNN interview *

Search the 1997 text yourself for his words on this matter. "Due
to its subordination to the Jews ..." See his other references to the US
and Israel.

* Bin Fake-it's statements on Jewish control of the United States,
2001 Taliban Home Video *

Bin Fake-it doesn't mention that the Jews control America. Surely
bin Laden wouldn't miss this golden opportunity to go to the heart of the
matter. After all, Operation 911 caused a big splash.
We would have had the patience to listen. But the Taliban Home Video
was just a minute or so long. Bin Fake-it was given just enough time
to provide Tee Vee sound bytes that damaged Muslims' interests, but not
enough time to expose those who wish to tear out Islam's heart. Very
odd.

* Bottom Line *

Let's move on from those interviews and notice this: The US now says
it is "in no hurry" to catch bin Laden.

"The Pentagon is in no hurry to try to catch or kill Osama bin Laden
as it orchestrates a step-by-step bombing campaign over Afghanistan." ("Pentagon
Will Not Rush Manhunt," Washington Times, October 9, 2001.)

But just a few weeks before the US DEMANDED that the Taliban hand bin
Laden over or the US would take military action . . . . The refusal
of the Taliban to hand bin Laden over without evidence or judicial procedure
was the causa belli of the military strikes.

Recall that the US is accusing bin Laden of masterminding the slaughter
of approximately 7,000 Americans, and has said that he is the brains and
the money behind the Taliban. If those statements are true, capturing
him should be the first priority. Indeed, by October 11, the FBI
warns us that over the next several days, we should be aware of new terrorist
attacks, which would of course be directed by the pesky bin Laden. The
Senate and the House of Representatives pass a draconian bill, allowing

suspension of our rights, but, remember: "The Pentagon is in no hurry
to try to catch or kill Osama bin Laden . . . "

On October 14, CNN.com reported President Bush again refused an offer
by the Taliban to surrender bin Laden to a third country if the US would
produce evidence of his complicity in Operation 911. ("Afganistan
pounded in second week of airstrikes.")

No, capturing or otherwise placing Osama bin-Laden in custody would
spoil the fun. It's better to have bin Fake-it on the loose,
mouthing the words written by the NWO psyops team.

*Al-Jazeera*

The Taliban Home Video was first aired on the Qatar TV station al-Jazeera.
Al-Jazeera was founded only five years ago, during what was probably the
planning stages of this war. Al-Jazeera deserves attention, and its
getting some. It was the subject of a breathlessly adoring article
in the Washington Post's Style Section on October 9, 2001 ("Qatar TV Station
A Clear Channel To Middle East." )

" . . . it has the record of breaking exclusive news stories that many
American networks might envy," drools the Post. Al-Jazeera followed
up its broadcast of bin Fake-it "with an interview with British Prime Minister
Tony Blair. Other recent interview guests have included Secretary
of State Colin Power and Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres."

"What makes al-Jazeera's scoops all the more remarkable is that the
24-hour satellite news station is the creation of one of the world's smallest
countries, Qatar, and broadcasts out of a region with little tradition
of press freedom . . . "

"Just as CNN became compulsory viewing around the world during the 1991
Gulf War, so too is al Jazeera becoming an indispensable source of intelligence
on events inside Afghanistan . . .

To those who live far away from the Washington, D.C. beltway, the significance
of a Post STYLE article may not be apparent, but know this: Whom our Jewish
supremacist masters wish to raise up or cast down -- these are accorded
a feature article in STYLE section of the Washington Post.

Yes, al-Jazeera is just as Jewish as Seinfeld. Expect more bin
Fake-it news and bin Fake-it photos from al-Jazeera.

* Votes, Please *

So, how do you vote? Was the Taliban Home Video a morphing job,
or was an Osama bin Laden impersonator used?

The FBI votes for the impersonator. How do I know? Look
at the FBI's Most Wanted page and see the image of bin Laden they are using.

Note that the FBI says of its photo: "Date of Photograph unknown." Why
not use a current image, the one in the Taliban Home Video, if you believe
that image is true?

Come to think of it, why can't the FBI offer a date for its photo of
Public Enemy Number One? The world's foremost investigative agency
should know the source of its own material and find out when the photo
was taken. Is that too difficult?

But don't expect reason or truth. Remember who you are dealing
with. Israel's puppet state -- let's agree to call it USrael --is
one of the most deceitful and ruthless nations on Earth, and the FBI is
one of its fix-it arms. You only need to remember the Waco Holocaust
to know that. So of course the case against Osama bin Laden, together
with the hokie Taliban Home Video, STINKS.

=== "Bin Laden: A Patriot In His Own Land" and CNN March 1977
Interview ===

In March, 1997 Osama Bin Laden was interviewed by CNN. In that interview,
Bin Laden he made a number of incontestable points:

* " . . . the US government is unjust, criminal and tyrannical
. . . . The mention of the US reminds us before everything else of those
innocent children who were dismembered, their heads and arms cut off in
the recent explosion that took place in Qana (in Lebanon) . . . "

[We're reading you, Mr. Bin Ladin. We watched the US butcher American
children in Waco. See:
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/death/death.html
.
For video of the Qana massacre: http://www.middleeast.org/mer117.htm
]

* The US is subordinated to Jewish/Israeli interests;
* The government of Saudi Arabia is a US-puppet government;
* The US-puppet Saudi government artificially holds down the price
of oil;
* The US-puppet Saudi government thus conspires in the theft of Arabian
natural resources;
* The price of oil should be set by the free market.

"The US . . . wants to occupy our countries, steal our resources,
impose on us agents to rule us based not on what God has revealed and wants
us to agree on all this. If we refuse to do so, it will say we are
terrorists . . . At the time that they condemn any Muslim who calls for
his rights, they receive the highest top official of the Irish Republican
army at the White House as a political leader, while woe, all woe, to the
Muslims if they cry out for their rights. Wherever we look we find
the US as the leader of terrorism and crime in the world."

Osama Bin Laden sounds much like one of our own Founding Fathers facing
the tyranny of King George III. That we have gained the enmity of
this man is a bitter commentary on our own imperialism and our own betrayal
of the principles of the American Revolution.

Notice how quickly the reporter gets down to the key issue: the
price of oil if Arabia was not a US puppet state (see third question).

The first-ever television interview with Osama Bin Ladin was conducted
by Peter Arnett in eastern Afghanistan in late March 1997. Questions
were submitted in advance. Bin Ladin responded to almost all of the questions.
CNN was not allowed to ask follow up questions. The interview lasted just
over an hour.

REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, could you give us your main criticism of the
Saudi royal Family that is ruling Saudi Arabia today?

MR. BIN LADIN: Regarding the criticisms of the ruling regime in Saudi
Arabia and the Arabian peninsula, the first one is their subordination
to the US. So, our main problem is the US government while the Saudi regime
is but a branch or an agent of the US. By being loyal to the US regime,
the Saudi regime has committed an act against Islam. And this, based on
the ruling of Shari'a (Islamic jurisprudence), casts the regime outside
the religious community. Subsequently, the regime has stopped ruling people
according to what God revealed, praise and glory be to Him, not to mention
many other contradictory acts. When this main foundation was violated,
other corrupt acts followed in every aspect of the country, the economic,
the social, government services and so on.

REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, if the Islamic movement takes over Arabia,
what kind of society will be created and will Saudi Arabia, for example,
return to the laws of the Qur'an at the time of the Prophet?

BIN LADIN: We are confident, with the permission of God, Praise and
Glory be to Him, that Muslims will be victorious in the Arabian peninsula
and that God's religion, praise and glory be to Him, will prevail in this
peninsula. It is a great pride and a big hope that the revelation unto
Muhammad, Peace be upon him, will be resorted to for ruling. When we used
to follow Muhammad's revelation, Peace be upon him, we were in great happiness
and in great dignity, to God belong credit and praise.

REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, if the Islamic movement takes over Saudi Arabia,
what would your attitude to the West be and will the price of oil be higher?

BIN LADIN: We are a nation and have a long history, with the grace of
God, Praise and Glory be to Him. We are now in the 15th century of this
great religion, the complete and comprehensive methodology, has clarified
the dealing between an individual and another, the duties of the believer
towards God, Praise and Glory be to Him, and the relationship between the
Muslim country and other countries in time of peace and in time of war.
If we look back at our history, we will find there were many types of dealings
between the Muslim nation and the other nations in time of peace and in
time of war, including treaties and matters to do with commerce. So it
is not a new thing that we need to come up with. Rather, it already, by
the grace of God, exists. As for oil, it is a commodity that will be subject
to the price of the market according to supply and demand. We believe that
the current prices are not realistic due to the Saudi regime playing the
role of a US agent and the pressures exercised by the US on the Saudi regime
to increase production and flooding the market that caused a sharp decrease
in oil prices.

REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, you've declared a jihad against the United
States. Can you tell us why? And is the jihad directed against the US government
or the United States' troops in Arabia? What about US civilians in Arabia
or the people of the United States?

BIN LADIN: We declared jihad against the US government, because the
US government is unjust, criminal and tyrannical. It has committed acts
that are extremely unjust, hideous and criminal whether directly or through
its support of the Israeli occupation of the Prophet's Night Travel Land
(Palestine). And we believe the US is directly responsible for those who
were killed in Palestine, Lebanon and Iraq. The mention of the US reminds
us before everything else of those innocent children who were dismembered,
their heads and arms cut off in the recent explosion that took place in
Qana (in Lebanon). This US government abandoned even humanitarian feelings
by these hideous crimes. It transgressed all bounds and behaved in a way
not witnessed before by any power or any imperialist power in the world.
They should have been considerate that the qibla (Mecca) of the Muslims
upheaves the emotion of the entire Muslim World. Due to its subordination
to the Jews the arrogance and haughtiness of the US regime has reached,
to the extent that they occupied the qibla of the Muslims (Arabia) who
are more than a billion in the world today. For this and other acts of
aggression and injustice, we have declared jihad against the US, because
in our religion it is our duty to make jihad so that God's word is the
one exalted to the heights and so that we drive the Americans away from
all Muslim countries. As for what you asked whether jihad is directed against
US soldiers, the civilians in the land of the Two Holy Places (Saudi Arabia,
Mecca and Medina) or against the civilians in America, we have focused
our declaration on striking at the soldiers in the country of The Two Holy
Places. The country of the Two Holy Places has in our religion a peculiarity
of its own over the other Muslim countries. In our religion, it is not
permissible for any non-Muslim to stay in our country. Therefore, even
though American civilians are not targeted in our plan, they must leave.
We do not guarantee their safety, because we are in a society of more than
a billion Muslims. A reaction might take place as a result of US government's
hitting Muslim civilians and executing more than 600 thousand Muslim children
in Iraq by preventing food and medicine from reaching them. So, the US
is responsible for any reaction, because it extended its war against troops
to civilians. This is what we say. As for what you asked regarding the
American people, they are not exonerated from responsibility, because they
chose this government and voted for it despite their knowledge of its crimes
in Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq and in other places and its support of its
agent regimes who filled our prisons with our best children and scholars.
We ask that may God release them.

REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, will the end of the United States' presence
in Saudi Arabia, their withdrawal, will that end your call for jihad against
the United States and against the US ?

BIN LADIN: The cause of the reaction must be sought and the act that
has triggered this reaction must be eliminated. The reaction came as a
result of the US aggressive policy towards the entire Muslim world and
not just towards the Arabian peninsula. So if the cause that has called
for this act comes to an end, this act, in turn, will come to an end. So,
the driving-away jihad against the US does not stop with its withdrawal
from the Arabian peninsula, but rather it must desist from aggressive intervention
against Muslims in the whole world.

REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, tell us about your experience during the Afghan
war and what did you do during that jihad?

BIN LADIN: Praise be to God, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds,
that He made it possible for us to aid the Mujahidin in Afghanistan without
any declaration for jihad. It was rather the news that was broadcast by
radio stations that the Soviet Union invaded a Muslim country. This was
a sufficient motivation for me to start to aid our brothers in Afghanistan.
I have benefitted so greatly from the jihad in Afghanistan that it would
have been impossible for me to gain such a benefit from any other chance
and this cannot be measured by tens of years but rather more than that,
Praise and Gratitude be to God. In spite of the Soviet power, we used to
move with confidence and God conferred favors on us so that we transported
heavy equipment from the country of the Two Holy Places (Arabia) estimated
at hundreds of tons altogether that included bulldozers, loaders, dump
trucks and equipment for digging trenches. When we saw the brutality of
the Russians bombing Mujahidins' positions, by the grace of God, we dug
a good number of huge tunnels and built in them some storage places and
in some others we built a hospital. We also dug some roads, by the grace
of God, Praise and glory be to Him, one of which you came by to us tonight.
So our experience in this jihad was great, by the grace of God, praise
and glory be to Him, and the most of what we benefitted from was that the
myth of the super power was destroyed not only in my mind but also in the
minds of all Muslims. Slumber and fatigue vanished and so was the terror
which the US would use in its media by attributing itself super power status
or which the Soviet Union used by attributing itself as a super power.
Today, the entire Muslim world, by the grace of God, has imbibed the faithful
spirit of strength and started to interact in a good manner in order to
bring an end to occupation and the Western and American influence on our
countries.

REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, what was the significance of the Afgan war
for the Islamic movement? Veterans of that war are fighting for Islamic
movements and conflicts from the former Soviet republics such as Chechnya
to Bosnia to Algeria. Can you explain that phenomenon to us?

BIN LADIN: As I mentioned in my answer to the previous question, the
effect of jihad has been great not only at the level of the Islamic movement
but rather at the level of the Muslim nation in the whole world. The spirit
of power, dignity and confidence has grown in our sons and brothers for
this religion and the power of God, Praise and Glory be to Him. And it
has become apparent even to the Islamic movement that there is no choice
but return to the original spring, to this religion, to God's Book, Praise
and Glory be to Him, and to the sunna of His Prophet, Peace be upon him,
as understood by our predecessors, may God be pleased with them. Of this,
the acme of this religion is jihad. The nation has had a strong conviction
that there is no way to obtain faithful strength but by returning to this
jihad. The influence of the Afghan jihad on the Islamic world was so great
and it necessitates that people should rise above many of their differences
and unite their efforts against their enemy. Today, the nation is interacting
well by uniting its efforts through jihad against the US which has in collaboration
with the Israeli government led the ferocious campaign against the Islamic
World in occupying the holy sites of the Muslims. As for the young men
who participated in jihad here, their number, by the grace of God, was
quite big, Praise and Gratitude be to Him, and they spread in every place
in which non believers' injustice is perpetuated against Muslims. Their
going to Bosnia, Chechnya, Tajikistan and other countries is but a fulfillment
of a duty, because we believe that these states are part of the Islamic
World. Therefore, any act of aggression against any of this land of a span
of hand measure makes it a duty for Muslims to send a sufficient number
of their sons to fight off that aggression.

REPORTER: Can you tell us now about your expulsion from Saudi Arabia
and your time you spent in Sudan and your arrival here in Afganistan?

BIN LADIN: I was, by the grace of God, Praise and Glory be to Him, in
the great spot that is dear to God, Praise and Glory be to Him, al-hijaz,
especially Venerable Mecca, where is God's Ancient House. However, the
Saudi regime imposed on the people a life that does not appeal to the free
believer. They wanted the people to eat and drink and celebrate the praise
of God, but if the people wanted to encourage what is right and forbid
what is wrong, they can't. Rather, the regime dismisses them from their
jobs and in the event they continued to do so, they are detained in prisons.
I have rejected to live this submissive life, by God's favor, Praise and
Gratitude be to Him, that is not befitting of man let alone a believer.
So, I waited for the chance until, God, Praise and Glory be to Him, has
made it possible for me to leave the country of the Two Holy Places. I
hope God, Praise and Glory be to Him, would confer upon me His favor to
return one day when God's law rules in that country. I went to the Sudan
and stayed there for about five years during which I visited Afghanistan
and Pakistan to work against the Communist government in Kabul. When the
Saudi government transgressed in oppressing all voices of the scholars
and the voices of those who call for Islam, I found myself forced, especially
after the government prevented Sheik Salman al-Awdah and Sheik Safar al-Hawali
and some other scholars, to carry out a small part of my duty of enjoining
what is right and forbidding what is wrong. So, I collaborated with
some brothers and established a committee for offering advice and we started
to publish some declarations. (The Advice and Reformation Committee). However,
the Saudi regime did not like this and started to exercise pressure on
the Sudanese regime. The US government, the Egyptian government and the
Yemeni government also helped in doing so. They requested me explicitly
from the Sudanese regime and the pressure continued. Saudi Arabia dropped
all of its conditions put to the Sudanese regime in return that I be driven
out of the Sudan. The US government had already taken the same stance and
pulled out its diplomatic mission from Khartoum and put forth their condition
to return only after I have left. Unfortunately, the Sudanese government
was in some difficult circumstances and there was a tendency inside the
government that was inclined to reconciliation or surrender. Then, when
they insisted initially that I should keep my mouth shut, I decided to
look for a land in which I can breathe a pure, free air to perform my duty
in enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong. I ask God, Praise
and Glory be to Him, for increase in prosperity for this great land, the
Land of Khurasan (Afghanistan) in order to carry on this duty. So, we implore
God, Praise and Glory be to Him, that He accept (our deeds) from us and
the Muslims.

REPORTER: Now, the United States government says that you are
still funding military training camps here in Afganistan for militant,
Islamic fighters and that you are a sponsor of international terrorism;
but others describe you as the new hero of the Arab-Islamic world. Are
these accusations true? How do you describe yourself?

BIN LADIN: After the collapse of the Soviet Union in which the US has
no mentionable role, but rather the credit goes to God, Praise and Glory
be to Him, and the Mujahidin in Afghanistan, this collapse made the US
more haughty and arrogant and it has started to look at itself as a Master
of this world and established what it calls the new world order. It wanted
to delude people that it can do whatever it wants, but it can't do this.
It leveled against me and others as many accusations as it desired and
wished. It is these (accusations) that you mentioned. The US today as a
result of the arrogant atmosphere has set a double standard, calling whoever
goes against its injustice a terrorist. It wants to occupy our countries,
steal our resources, impose on us agents to rule us based not on what God
has revealed and wants us to agree on all these. If we refuse to do so,
it will say you are terrorists. With a simple look at the US behaviors,
we find that it judges the behavior of the poor Palestinian children whose
country was occupied: if they throw stones against the Israeli occupation,
it says they are terrorists whereas when the Israeli pilots bombed the
United Nations building in Qana, Lebanon while was full of children and
women, the US stopped any plan to condemn Israel. At the time that they
condemn any Muslim who calls for his right, they receive the highest top
official of the Irish Republican Army (Gerry Adams) at the White House
as a political leader, while woe, all woe is the Muslims if they cry out
for their rights. Wherever we look, we find the US as the leader of terrorism
and crime in the world. The US does not consider it a terrorist act to
throw atomic bombs at nations thousands of miles away, when it would not
be possible for those bombs to hit military troops only. These bombs were
rather thrown at entire nations, including women, children and elderly
people and up to this day the traces of those bombs remain in Japan. The
US does not consider it terrorism when hundreds of thousands of our sons
and brothers in Iraq died for lack of food or medicine. So, there is no
base for what the US says and this saying does not affect us, because we,
by the grace of God, are dependent on Him, Praise and Glory be to Him,
getting help from Him against the US. As for the last part of your question,
we are fulfilling a duty which God, Praise and Glory be to Him, decreed
for us. We look upon those heroes, those men who undertook to kill the
American occupiers in Riyadh and Khobar (Dhahran). We describe those as
heroes and describe them as men. They have pulled down the disgrace and
submissiveness off the forehead of their nation. We ask Allah, Praise and
Glory be to Him, to accept them as martyrs.

REPORTER: Let's go to the bombings of United States troops in Riyadh
and Dhahran. Why did they happen and were you and your supporters involved
in these attacks?

BIN LADIN: We ask about the main reason that called for this explosion.
This explosion was a reaction to a US provocation of the Muslim peoples,
in which the US transgressed in its aggression until it reached the qibla
of the Muslims in the whole world. So, the purpose of the two explosions
is to get the American occupation out (of Arabia). So if the U.S. does
not want to kill its sons who are in the army, then it has to get out.

REPORTER: On the same issue of the American troops in Saudi Arabia,
do you think there will be more bombing attacks on them? or attacks on
U.S. civilians in Arabia? or assassination attempts for example, on the
Saudi royal families?

BIN LADIN: As for the previous question, the explosion of Riyadh and
the one in Al-Khobar (Dhahran). It is no secret that during the two explosions,
I was not in Saudi Arabia, but I have great respect for the people who
did this action. I say, as I said before, they are heroes. We look upon
them as men who wanted to raise the flag of "There is no God but Allah",
and to put an end the non believers and the state of injustice that the
U.S. brought. I also say that what they did is a great job and a big honor
that I missed participating in.

REPORTER: Do you think there will be more bombing attacks on American
troops in Saudi Arabia? or attacks on American civilians in Saudi Arabia?
or will there be assassination attempts on the Saudi Arabian ruling family?

BIN LADIN: It is known that every action has its reaction. If the American
presence continues, and that is an action, then it is natural for reactions
to continue against this presence. In other words, explosions and killings
of the American soldiers would continue. These are the troops who left
their country and their families and came here with all arrogance to steal
our oil and disgrace us, and attack our religion. As for what was mentioned
about the ruling (Saudi) family those in charge, do bear the full responsibility
of everything that may happen. They are the shadow of the American presence.
The people and the young men are concentrating their efforts on the sponsor
and not on the sponsored. The concentration at this point of Jihad is against
the American occupiers.

REPORTER: What are your views about Sheik Omar Abdul Rahman and have
you ever met him? Do you know him?

BIN LADIN: Sheik Omar Abdul Rahman is a Muslim scholar well-known all
over the Muslim world. He represents the kind of injustice that is adopted
by the U.S. A baseless case was fabricated against him even though he is
a blind old man. We ask Allah, The Almighty, to relieve him. The U.S. sentenced
him to hundreds of years just to please its caprice and the whims of the
Egyptian regime. He is now very badly treated and in no way fit for an
old man like him or any Muslim scholar.

REPORTER: The U.S. State Department quoting a Pakistani official says
that Ramzi Yousef, a convicted bomber in the World Trade Center in New
York City stayed in the house you funded in Peshawar, Pakistan for those
receiving training during the Afghan conflict after the Trade Center bombing,
is that true? Did Ramzi Yousef stay in your house in Peshawar?

BIN LADIN: I do not know Ramzi Yousef. What the American government
and Pakistani intelligence has been reporting is not true at all. But I
say if the American government is serious about avoiding the explosions
inside the U.S., then let it stop provoking the feelings of 1,250 million
Muslims. Those hundreds of thousands who have been killed or displaced
in Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon, do have brothers and relatives. They would
make of Ramzi Yousef a symbol and a teacher. The U.S. will drive them to
transfer the battle into the United States. Everything is made possible
to protect the blood of the American citizen while the bloodshed of Muslims
is allowed in every place. With this kind of behavior, the U.S. government
is hurting itself, hurting Muslims and hurting the American people.

REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, were you involved in financing the bombing
of the World Trade Center in New York City?

BIN LADIN: I have no connection or relation with this explosion.

REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, in a recent interview with an Arabic newspaper,
you said that Arabs who fought in the Afghan war killed U.S. troops in
Mogadishu, Somalia. Can you tell us about that?

BIN LADIN: The U.S. government went there with great pride and stayed
there for some time with a strong media presence wanting to frighten people
that it is the greatest power on earth. It went there with pride and with
over 28,000 soldiers, to a poor unarmed people in Somalia. The goal of
this was to scare the Muslim world and the whole world saying that it is
able to do whatever it desires. As soon as the troops reached the Mogadishu
beaches, they found no one but children. The CNN and other media cameras
started photographing them (the soldiers) with their camouflage and heavy
arms, entering with a parade crawling (on the ground) and showing themselves
to the world as the "greatest power on earth". Resistance started against
the American invasion, because Muslims do not believe the U.S. allegations
that they came to save the Somalis. A man with human feelings in
his heart does not distinguish between a child killed in Palestine or in
Lebanon, in Iraq or in Bosnia. So how can we believe your claims that you
came to save our children in Somalia while you kill our children in all
of those places?

With Allah's grace, Muslims over there, cooperated with some Arab "Mujahideen"
who were in Afghanistan. They participated with their brothers in Somalia
against the American occupation troops and killed large numbers of them.
The American administration was aware of that. After a little resistance.
The American troops left after achieving nothing. They left after claiming
that they were the largest power on earth. They left after some resistance
from powerless, poor, unarmed people whose only weapon is the belief in
Allah The Almighty, and who do not fear the fabricated American media lies.
We learned from those who fought there, that they were surprised to see
the low spiritual morale of the American fighters in comparison with the
experience they had with the Russian fighters. The Americans ran away from
those fighters who fought and killed them, while the latter were still
there. If the U.S. still thinks and brags that it still has this kind of
power even after all these successive defeats in Vietnam, Beirut, Aden,
and Somalia, then let them go back to those who are awaiting its return.

REPORTER: Mr. Bin Laden, your family is a rich powerful family in Saudi
Arabia. Have they, or the Saudi Arabian government asked you to stop your
activities?

BIN LADIN: They have done that a lot. They have pressured us a lot,
especially since a lot of our money is still in the hands of the Saudi
ruling family due to activities of the our family and company (Saudi construction
giant, the Bin Ladin Group). They sent me my mother, my uncle, and my brothers
in almost nine visits to Khartoum (Sudan) asking me to stop and return
to Arabia to apologize to King Fahd. I apologized to my family kindly because
I know that they were driven by force to come to talk to me. This regime
wants to create a problem between me and my family and in order to take
some measures against them. But, with Allah's grace, this regime did not
get its wish fulfilled. I refused to go back. They (my family) conveyed
the Saudi government's message that if I did not go back, they'll freeze
all my assets, deprive me of my citizenship, my passport, and my Saudi
I.D. and distort my picture in the Saudi and foreign media. They think
that a Muslim may bargain on his religion. I said to them do whatever you
may wish. It is with Allah's bounty, we refused to go back. We are living
in dignity and honor for whom we thank Allah. It is much better for us
to live under a tree here on these mountains than to live in palaces in
the most sacred land to Allah, while being subjected to disgrace not worshipping
Allah even in the most sacred land on earth, where injustice is so widespread.
There is no strength except with Allah.

REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, have Saudi agents attempted to assassinate
you? Are you targeted by the U.S. government? Are you in fact in fear of
your life?

BIN LADIN: The U.S. pressures are no secret to you. The Saudi pressures
are also in response to American pressures. There were several attempts
to arrest me or to assassinate me. This has been going on for more than
seven years. With Allah's grace, none of these attempts succeeded. This
is a proof in itself to Muslims and to the world that the U.S. is incapable
and weaker than the picture it wants to draw in people's mind. A believer
must rest assured that life is only in the hands of Allah, and sustenance
is also in the hands of Allah, the Almighty. As for fearing for one's life,
it is difficult to explain to you how we think of ourselves, unless you
have full belief. We believe that no one could take out one breath of our
written life as ordained by Allah. We see that we see that getting killed
in the cause of Allah is a great honor wished for by our Prophet (PBUH).
He said in his Hadith: "I swear to Allah, I wish to fight for Allah's cause
and be killed, I'll do it again and be killed, and I'll do it again and
be killed". Being killed for Allah's cause is a great honor achieved by
only those who are the elite of the nation. We love this kind of death
for Allah's cause as much as you like to live. We have nothing to fear
for. It is something we wish for.

REPORTER: What are your future plans?

BIN LADIN: You'll see them and hear about them in the media, God willing.

REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, if you had an opportunity to give a message
to President Clinton, what would that message be?

BIN LADIN: Mentioning the name of Clinton or that of the American government
provokes disgust and revulsion. This is because the name of the American
government and the name of Clinton and Bush directly reflect in our minds
the picture of children with their heads cut off before even reaching one
year of age. It reflects the picture of children with their hands cut off,
the picture of the children who died in Iraq, the picture of the hands
of the Israelis with weapons destroying our children. The hearts of Muslims
are filled with hatred towards the United States of America and the American
president The President has a heart that knows no words. A heart that kills
hundreds of children definitely, knows no words. Our people in the Arabian
Peninsula will send him messages with no words because he does not know
any words. If there is a message that I may send through you, then it is
a message I address to the mothers of the American troops who came here
with their military uniform walking proudly up and down our land while
the scholars of our country are thrown in prisons. I say that this represents
a blatant provocation to 1,250 million Muslims. To these mothers I say
if they are concerned for their sons, then let them object to the American
government's policy and to the American president. Do not let themselves
be cheated by his standing before the bodies of the killed soldiers describing
the freedom fighters in Saudi Arabia as terrorists. It is he who is a terrorist
who pushed their sons into this for the sake of the Israeli interest. We
believe that the American army in Saudi Arabia came to separate between
the Muslims and the people for not ruling in accordance with Allah's wish.
They came to be in support of the Israeli forces in occupied Palestine,
the land of the "Israa" of our Prophet (PBUH).