Comments on Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEOTypePad2013-03-24T16:32:12ZAndy Towlehttp://www.towleroad.com/tag:typepad.com,2003:http://www.towleroad.com/2013/03/facewolfson/comments/atom.xml/AdamTh commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017d4248e8c8970c2013-03-25T20:12:46Z2013-03-25T20:12:46ZAdamThPerkins & Numocks realize they are losing and it's only going to get worse for their side. Their game plan...<p>Perkins &amp; Numocks realize they are losing and it&#39;s only going to get worse for their side. Their game plan now is to stall. Delay marriage equality nationwide for as long as possible.</p>
<p>When the Court decides banning marriage violate the equal protection clause, they will/must strike down all of the marriage bans. The protections guaranteed by the US Constitution do not stop at state lines and wait for a majority of the voters of each state to approve. </p>
<p>There will always be a group of states (mostly southern) that will never permit marriage equality by legislative action or voter referendum. The Court must strike down ALL state bans against marriage.</p>andrew commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017d424517b3970c2013-03-25T06:52:39Z2013-03-25T06:52:39ZandrewBrendon Ayanbadejo sure is one impressive guy.<p>Brendon Ayanbadejo sure is one impressive guy.</p>Caliban commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017ee9b88802970d2013-03-25T04:48:35Z2013-03-25T04:48:35ZCalibanDespite the Right's screaming about the FRC being called a hate group and how "unfair" that is, it's not just...<p>Despite the Right&#39;s screaming about the FRC being called a hate group and how &quot;unfair&quot; that is, it&#39;s not just reasonable but deserved.</p>
<p>There is a HUGE difference between &quot;Due to my religious beliefs I can&#39;t support gay marriage because I believe it should be between one man and one woman&quot; and &quot;Those filthy queers want to b*ttf*ck your children!&quot; </p>
<p>Tony Perkins and the FRC take EVERY opportunity to lie and distort the truth about gay people, to demonize us. Because Tony Perkins has a bit of media savvy he doesn&#39;t come across as a total loon on TV but that&#39;s the ONLY difference between the FRC and the Westboro Baptist Church.</p>
<p>That&#39;s what&#39;s so infuriating. None of these shows do their homework and make Tony Perkins either stand by or disavow the outrageous statement of the FRC, which he represents. He&#39;s like the kinder, gentler face of the KKK and they NEVER call him on it! Idiots!</p>Richard commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017c3814de2a970b2013-03-25T03:25:56Z2013-03-25T03:25:56ZRichardTony Perkins is the equivalent of the Grand Wizard of the KKK. His position as president of a designated hate...<p>Tony Perkins is the equivalent of the Grand Wizard of the KKK. His position as president of a designated hate group should follow him like a tail, should be included in every introduction. His immunity from condemnation is baffling. GLAAD and HRC need to go after this creep. He is the personification of homophobia and our greatest enemy.</p>SoLeftImRight commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017d42429201970c2013-03-24T22:20:43Z2013-03-24T22:20:43ZSoLeftImRightPerfectly stated, Evan. Well done. And I agree that Tony Perkins is so lacking in credibility and sanity that he...<p>Perfectly stated, Evan. Well done. And I agree that Tony Perkins is so lacking in credibility and sanity that he does not deserve a place at the table in this kind of forum. He can blog and newsletter and spout whatever he wants, but he is not deserving of a major news outlet to do so.</p>Randy commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017d4242665b970c2013-03-24T21:48:22Z2013-03-24T21:48:22ZRandyWhat's with this Roe v Wade crap? Are the religious nuts going to start bombing city halls after they lose...<p>What&#39;s with this Roe v Wade crap? Are the religious nuts going to start bombing city halls after they lose Prop 8?</p>Michaelandfred commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017ee9b664ad970d2013-03-24T21:36:30Z2013-03-24T21:36:30ZMichaelandfredI almost missed this article. My husband and I have started stretching and practicing new positions for the upcoming hurricane...<p>I almost missed this article. My husband and I have started stretching and practicing new positions for the upcoming hurricane season. We&#39;re going to shoot for three more than last year since the Gay Mafia upped our quota. Wish us luck. We&#39;ll bring down this nation yet...... </p>Bart commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017d4242512c970c2013-03-24T21:28:24Z2013-03-24T21:28:24ZBartThe religious values of my partner, our two children and myself are not the same as Tony Perkins. Why would...<p>The religious values of my partner, our two children and myself are not the same as Tony Perkins. Why would he think his are more important than mine? </p>
<p>It&#39;s interesting that those who actively try and take other people&#39;s civil liberties away are always crying that prejudice and bigotry are religious rights that they should be protected.</p>Isaak commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017c38131796970b2013-03-24T21:10:03Z2013-03-24T21:10:03ZIsaakI must have a faulty dictionary because under the definition of "moral", I don't see "bigotry". Did they abridge this...<p>I must have a faulty dictionary because under the definition of &quot;moral&quot;, I don&#39;t see &quot;bigotry&quot;. Did they abridge this book like they did their collection of fairy tales (aka bible)?</p>Little Kiwi commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017ee9b6437e970d2013-03-24T21:07:30Z2013-03-24T21:07:30ZLittle Kiwihttp://littlekiwilovesbauhaus.blogspot.comGregV - you bring up what irks me most: that nonsense is given credence and weight. Olympic judging came under...<p>GregV - you bring up what irks me most: that nonsense is given credence and weight.</p>
<p>Olympic judging came under such scrutiny that new rules had to be changed in order for judges to explain their marks following a specific and explicit set of criteria. And here we have things that, you know, actually MATTER and votes still get cast and counted with their defense being, literally, &quot;i know i can&#39;t prove it or explain it or back it up but it&#39;s just how i feel. so there&quot;</p>GregV commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017d4242261d970c2013-03-24T20:53:21Z2013-03-24T20:53:21ZGregV@Matthew from Boston: That's a great letter with valid points. I can't think of any other minority groups besides gay,...<p>@Matthew from Boston: That&#39;s a great letter with valid points.</p>
<p> I can&#39;t think of any other minority groups besides gay, bi and trans people who have to content with representatives of certified hate groups who are invited to present the flip side of equal rights to TV audiences while ofyen being allowed to make blatantly false claims without being corrected on them by interviewers.<br />
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When Alabama was debating inter-racial marriage before the 2000 election (with 42% ultimately voting for legal sanctions against different-race couples), Meet the Press, CNN and Fox did not invite the Grand Dragon of the Klan on to tell viewers how black and Jewish people will destroy society. Nobody was invited on to cite cooked-up racist &quot;studies&quot; on the havoc weeaked by inter-racial couples while interviwers sat and nodded and then moved on.</p>
<p> They don&#39;t feel the need to create a panel that includes a member of the Flat Earth Society every time they interview an astronaut or a learned representative of NASA.<br />
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I have long been tired of how hateful and scientifically unsupportable rhetoric continues to be presented on sexual orientation and gender identity issues alone as if it were simply &quot;the other side&quot; of some sort of valid debate.</p>voet commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017c3812ba36970b2013-03-24T19:56:25Z2013-03-24T19:56:25ZvoetThe Alliance Defending Freedom is as objectionable as FRC. It is a right wing Christian organization that defines their mission...<p>The Alliance Defending Freedom is as objectionable as FRC. It is a right wing Christian organization that defines their mission as keeping &quot;the door open for the spread of the Gospel by transforming the legal system.&quot; It&#39;s founders include Bill Bright of Campus Crusade for Christ, D. James Kennedy of Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church and James Dobson formerly of Focus on the Family. </p>
<p>While ADF is less well known, it is no less insidious.</p>Rem commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017c381297dc970b2013-03-24T19:27:59Z2013-03-24T19:27:59ZRemMatthew, your email to CBS News and Face the Nation was perfectly expressed. I'm going to send an email as...<p>Matthew, your email to CBS News and Face the Nation was perfectly expressed. I&#39;m going to send an email as well and reference your remarks. Thanks for the effort. </p>MuscleModelBlog.com commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017c381288a6970b2013-03-24T19:16:05Z2013-03-24T19:16:05ZMuscleModelBlog.comhttp://musclemodelblog.com/Finally, a voice of reason! The world will not end when same-sex marriage becomes legal...and there will not be a...<p>Finally, a voice of reason! The world will not end when same-sex marriage becomes legal...and there will not be a mass abandonment of wives by husbands who suddenly want to be with me. It does not affect anyone else&#39;s marriages. </p>Kyle commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017ee9b5a828970d2013-03-24T19:05:04Z2013-03-24T19:05:04ZKyle Having children is not a requirement of a marriage. Tony Perkins' point is baseless.<p>Having children is not a requirement of a marriage. Tony Perkins&#39; point is baseless.</p>Narducci commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017ee9b577fb970d2013-03-24T18:28:02Z2013-03-24T18:28:02ZNarducciMan, Perkins really can't let go of that alter/altar pun. What a demagogue.<p>Man, Perkins really can&#39;t let go of that alter/altar pun. What a demagogue. </p>Caliban commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017ee9b56d21970d2013-03-24T18:20:16Z2013-03-24T18:20:16ZCalibanMore and more I think the truth of Wolfson's words are starting to break through. Frank Bruni said something very...<p>More and more I think the truth of Wolfson&#39;s words are starting to break through. Frank Bruni said something very similar in his NYT piece linked here yesterday, &quot;the legalization of same-sex marriage takes nothing from anyone.&quot;</p>
<p>For years the Religious Right has been screaming hysterically that gays want to &quot;destroy marriage.&quot; And people are susceptible to fear so they bought that message. But unless you&#39;re Tony Perkins you can only maintain a state of hysteria for so long and eventually reason kicks in. The obvious question once you get your faculties back is &quot;How does someone else getting married effect me?&quot; It doesn&#39;t.</p>
<p>It&#39;s a right-wing delusion that rights (or as Wolfson says, marriage licenses) are finite, that if other people have them too you therefore have less. Rights aren&#39;t like the oil supply or some other finite resource. In fact I&#39;d say that giving MORE people access to the institution of marriage, more people seeing it as a desire ideal, strengthens it. </p>
<p>It&#39;s always seemed like an odd contradiction to me that the gay people who want access to marriage actually have more faith in it than those who claim they want to &quot;protect&quot; it, like it&#39;s some fragile thing, easily broken. If marriage can withstand the Trumps and Gingrichs of this world I&#39;m pretty sure it can withstand gay people having access, in fact it makes it stronger. </p>CDMatthew commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017c381240c1970b2013-03-24T18:19:32Z2013-03-24T18:19:32ZCDMatthewI sent the following email to CBS News and Face the Nation this morning, when hate group leader lying prpagandist...<p>I sent the following email to CBS News and Face the Nation this morning, when hate group leader lying prpagandist Tony Perkins was once again given a national platform from which to spew his anti-gay lies and animus:</p>
<p>&quot;I am a longtime viewer of Face the Nation, and generally admire the program&#39;s balanced approach to political debate. However, I must express my strong objections to allowing hate group leader Tony Perkins (of the Family Research Council) to appear as a panelist on your program. Perkins has a clear record of out-and-out lying about LGBT people and spreading false, anti-gay propaganda about LGBT people. The organization that Perkins represents, the Family Research Council, has been classified by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a certified hate group: </p>
<p>http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/family-research-council </p>
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There is also ample evidence of Perkin&#39;s discriminatory, offensive comments about LGBT people displayed at GLAAD&#39;s Commentator Accountability Project: </p>
<p>http://www.glaad.org/cap/tony-perkins </p>
<p>Please understand that I believe Face the Nation, in presenting debates of various topics, should include opposing points of view, including conervative commentators whose opinions may differ greatly from my own liberal/progressive perspective. However, there are responsible, honest conservative spokespeople that can take part in your program who do not represent an extremist right wing hate group such as the Family Research Council. Tony Perkins has a long record of extremist, offensive anti-gay positions and comments, and he should not appear on Face the Nation. Face the Nation should know better, and should do better. </p>
<p>Sincerely, </p>
<p>Matthew from Boston&quot;</p>
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<p>without a culture of anti-gay bigotry and prejudice, these guys would have NO INCOME.</p>palto commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017d42413d42970c2013-03-24T17:50:13Z2013-03-24T17:50:13ZpaltoPerkins has to keep this volleyball in the air because it's his meal ticket. Same with Brown.<p>Perkins has to keep this volleyball in the air because it&#39;s his meal ticket. Same with Brown. </p>Jacques commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017d424135ed970c2013-03-24T17:43:50Z2013-03-24T17:43:50ZJacquesThat other hate supporter on the panel wants me to wait for my civil right so folks can talk about...<p>That other hate supporter on the panel wants me to wait for my civil right so folks can talk about it for a while longer. No thanks.</p>Sylvatica commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017c381200e2970b2013-03-24T17:34:42Z2013-03-24T17:34:42ZSylvaticaAs usual, Perkins comes up with the same old lies.<p>As usual, Perkins comes up with the same old lies.</p>john patrick commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017c3811feeb970b2013-03-24T17:33:15Z2013-03-24T17:33:15Zjohn patrickNick, that is precisely what I thought.<p>Nick, that is precisely what I thought. </p>Sargon Bighorn commented on 'Evan Wolfson Schools Tony Perkins on 'Face the Nation': 'Gay People are not Going to Use Up the Marriage Licenses' — VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017d4241135c970c2013-03-24T17:20:59Z2013-03-24T17:20:59ZSargon BighornI wonder what the critical mass of Gay folk getting married is in order for society to collapse as Perkins...<p>I wonder what the critical mass of Gay folk getting married is in order for society to collapse as Perkins suggests. And to think Gay folk wanting civil equality will destroy America. Something no super power has ever been able to do. No group, no attack, But simply Gay folk getting married. I had no idea.</p>