I wonder if Deuce knows about the difference between euclidean and non-euclidean geometry?

As mathy concepts go, one version of that is absolutely without parallel!

Henry

you always go hyperbolic

When I'm not off on a tangent, anyways...

Careful, you're on a slippery slope with a steep gradient, there ...

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I wonder if Deuce knows about the difference between euclidean and non-euclidean geometry?

As mathy concepts go, one version of that is absolutely without parallel!

Henry

you always go hyperbolic

When I'm not off on a tangent, anyways...

Careful, you're on a slippery slope with a steep gradient, there ...

this conversation is derivative

Meh! Circular arguments...

I need a drink. A slim tot, hic!

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--------------Joe: Most criticisims of ID stem from ignorance and jealousy.Joe: As for the authors of the books in the Bible, well the OT was authored by Moses and the NT was authored by various people.Byers: The eskimo would not need hairy hair growth as hair, I say, is for keeping people dry. Not warm.

The Chief Seattle speech might not be accurately transcribed (:)) but it was based on the author's recollection of the speech, Seattle was noted as a great orator, and it is still a beutiful sentiment even if it was filtered through the stylistic pen of a romantic era writer.

Just sayin. It's not a myth that he gave such a speech, just that it wasn't exactly transcribed so much as interpreted some years later.

And it is beautiful.

Sorry, you're engaging in wishful thinking. I agree those are beautiful sentiments, and it would be even nicer if Chief Seattle had said them. But those were not his words. Here's a good analysis.

Alright. I have read that before. And, like I said, the speech is still beautiful regardless of who penned the words. I don't have the source I read most recently, probably 5 years or so ago, and I don't know the scholarship level either, but the gist of it was that most of those sentiments, those of ecology and ancestory and interconnectedness, and ownership were themes he was known to have spoken of on other occasions too. The records of him note that he was a great chief who was revered on merit of wisdom and eloquence by the various tribes which all regarded him as such as well as the white men who knew him.

Thus, though the speech is written by the other guy and colored with the notions of the romantic era and is not suspected to be authentic, it is also consistent with his basic approach to dealing with the whites and was probably a real speech that the author some years later paraphrased and wrote as an American romantic paean to nature.

I have no idea if any of that is factual and, you know what? I don't care. It is beautiful and expresses something which resonated in me which is all myth needs to do to fulfill its function.

So there. :)

--------------Who said that ev'ry wish would be heard and answered
When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

Are cuckoos, and other brood parasites, immoral and if so then why did God design them like that ... CALL THE ANIMAL POLICE, ARREST THOSE BIRDS!

Barry:

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Say one of the male chimps approaches one of the female chimps and makes chimp signals that he wants to have sexual relations with her, but for whatever reason she’s not interested and refuses. Is it morally wrong for the male chimp to force the female chimp to have sex with him against her will?

Of course, rape really isn't that wrong if you go by the Bible - just pay the dad off and marry the victim, whatever you do after that isn't rape because she is your property now and must subsume to your will.

Can't see how that would work for chimps though. Perhaps the chimp police demand payment in Bananas.

Especially dangerous, since the book of Barry's morality is based on this notion of property rights, but fucks up it, giving the property of a woman's body over to fathers, husbands and rapists:

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(Deuteronomy 22:28-29)If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her

“I therefore referenced a exhaustive study of the Hebrew text itself of Genesis 1 in post 82, as well I referenced a study of the specific Hebrew text in question in post 78.”

Come again? You accept [a] 3 page article and single self-published book, both by [the] same author, against entire opus of scholars that argue differently including most respected OT Commentaries, Hebrew Lexicons and Hebrew Dictionaries?

Yep - it doesn't matter what the subject is, the age of the earth or evolution, that's the ID way.

--------------Joe: Most criticisims of ID stem from ignorance and jealousy.Joe: As for the authors of the books in the Bible, well the OT was authored by Moses and the NT was authored by various people.Byers: The eskimo would not need hairy hair growth as hair, I say, is for keeping people dry. Not warm.

Between the crickets chirping the only signs of life at UD are the triumphalist thumping of bibles in the comments section as the inmates vanquish wave after bloody wave of invented materialist demons.

“I therefore referenced a exhaustive study of the Hebrew text itself of Genesis 1 in post 82, as well I referenced a study of the specific Hebrew text in question in post 78.”

Come again? You accept [a] 3 page article and single self-published book, both by [the] same author, against entire opus of scholars that argue differently including most respected OT Commentaries, Hebrew Lexicons and Hebrew Dictionaries?

Yep - it doesn't matter what the subject is, the age of the earth or evolution, that's the ID way.

if a tardfight occurs between two tards and there is no non-tard there to observe it does it make a fuck

--------------You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

Especially dangerous, since the book of Barry's morality is based on this notion of property rights, but fucks up it, giving the property of a woman's body over to fathers, husbands and rapists:

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(Deuteronomy 22:28-29)If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her

Well since all the "science" and "philosophy" discussion blew town and moved over to Elizabeth's blog... there isn't much left but quote mining the bible and speculation on rape.

If Elizabeth can keep her little corner of the ID petri dish warm enough for a while we may yet see a speciation event... in real time... syllable by syllable.

I like how many of the former UD-banees have shown up at SZ. The Udiots can't banninate them, they can only cut-n-run when the dialog gets too strenuous. I wonder how long it will be before they have a meltdown at SZ. Any bets on the first victim? William J. Murray? Gregory? GilD? JoeG? (My money is on Murray.)

--------------Being laughed at doesn't mean you're progressing along some line. It probably just means you're saying some stupid shit -stevestory