It's not a flame war. The man has a point. I mean, talk about the blind leading the blind.

thefiercelime wrote:

She has a public service announcement: "DO NOT BUY STACK. It makes Steel Reserve look like candy. If you drink a Stack, you're going to be giving a 'lead' at a meeting soon. You do not want to drink this shit!"

_________________It was fifteen years ago, but I remember it like it was ten.

I think the point is very valid, but I also think it's something to discuss privately. I understand that the blog itself brings her issues to light in a public forum, but I think whether or not she should perform should be discussed among her friends more privately and not delve into an argument on the internet.

I agree with Annie. I find it very odd to be confronted publicly by someone who hardly even knew Jenny and it's bizarre and abstract that he presumes to know her through Bela's blog. This isn't the place for this discussion, for sure. I've been close friends with Jenny for 20 years, now, and have been in touch with her every step of the way. I'm not leading her anywhere. She's always done her own thing. I didn't realize my mention of Jenny doing a show would be like a dog whistle for local drama queens.

_________________People to whom nothing has ever happened cannot understand the unimportance of events.

I agree with Annie. I find it very odd to be confronted publicly by someone who hardly even knew Jenny and it's bizarre and abstract that he presumes to know her through Bela's blog. This isn't the place for this discussion, for sure. I've been close friends with Jenny for 20 years, now, and have been in touch with her every step of the way. I'm not leading her anywhere. She's always done her own thing. I didn't realize my mention of Jenny doing a show would be like a dog whistle for local drama queens.

Maybe you should have posted it in the Hype section instead of the same thread as this.

_________________It was fifteen years ago, but I remember it like it was ten.

You're answering questions I never asked. I've made no claims here to knowing Jenny and, whether I knew her or not, I don't see how that invalidates the questions I have asked you. As far as Bela's blog goes, either the events he's described happened or they didn't. You were there, you tell me because it sounds like the two of you are talking about two different people here.

I think once cookie moves my comments to the appropriate thread and I tell Jenny no way we're doing shows because Zeppo says due to Bela's blog it's a bad idea, everything will all be worked out. Thanks for your help. You're contrived concern from afar is inspiring.

At any rate, I assure you, we would not put Jenny in an unhealthy situation for our benefit. We're obviously supporters and want to see her enjoy her life. Music was always a big part of that. It will become very obvious through rehearsal if it is something that she is not up for, afterall. She's looking forward to it, though. Thank God you sad bastards don't have the task of cheering her up. She probably would've fucking hanged herself, by now.

The Stack quote was Jenny horsing around, as usual.

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At any rate, I assure you, we would not put Jenny in an unhealthy situation for our benefit. We're obviously supporters and want to see her enjoy her life. Music was always a big part of that. It will become very obvious through rehearsal if it is something that she is not up for, afterall. She's looking forward to it, though.

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Well if there isn't controversy then it isn't intriguing. I feel that I should say a few things, first Jenny is an adult who can wisely or unwisely make her own decisions and secondly if you have been following our lives through the blog, she is a survivor. She is also much more stable now than she was five years ago, I will probably get to that soon when I have time to finish this part of my blog. Yes, this part will be ending soon unless I go into detail about some of the massive shits I have taken and how much Ohio State Pizza I used to eat at three am. As for Jenny playing, Sean is right, she still exudes music although it may be akin to watching the Versus channel at 2 am, but most of her shows were like that anyway. Oh, she has been housed for nearly five years now and she also approves of the blog. If she didn't I wouldn't have kept it up.-Bela

Honestly, I don't know that Jenny or myself ever were or will be at a place in our lives where we can "be in a club, perform in a club, and still keep it together". Besides, what would be the point of that?

The exact sort of absurdity that kept Jenny rolling was all the sad freaks running around with guitars, evaluating their set at the end of the night as if their personal worth and joy was somehow connected to and dependant upon their random performance, whether that be in the middle of nowhere in front of nobody or in the middle of a packed bar, somewhere.

We were usually having too much fun creating a part of the band's own personal myth, one story at a time, to pay much attention to the actual show. That's probably why it was so hit or miss.

_________________People to whom nothing has ever happened cannot understand the unimportance of events.

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Honestly, I don't know that Jenny or myself ever were or will be at a place in our lives where we can "be in a club, perform in a club, and still keep it together". Besides, what would be the point of that?

The exact sort of absurdity that kept Jenny rolling was all the sad freaks running around with guitars, evaluating their set at the end of the night as if their personal worth and joy was somehow connected to and dependant upon their random performance, whether that be in the middle of nowhere in front of nobody or in the middle of a packed bar, somewhere.

We were usually having too much fun creating a part of the band's own personal myth, one story at a time, to pay much attention to the actual show. That's probably why it was so hit or miss.

I think at this point, though your intentions may be good, many people who don't know Jenny may end up coming to a show from a purely voyeuristic angle. Putting her on the stage could result in many coming out to see the crazy, homeless lady in the flesh. Survivor, or not, it may be an unfair position to propose to her and set her up for some embarrassment.

The blog is pretty heavy duty, and at certain points, painful to read. I'm glad she has survived, but the intentions of those coming to see her may not be very genuine.

Which she may or may not care about, but I think some worry about the fragility of mer mental state.

This will be low-key. I don't expect any issues, but, mama will be in good hands if something goes awry. I'm the last person who would set her up for a nightmare experience.

I hope you understand that having strangers give me advice about someone who has been a close friend my entire adult life, after reading a little about her online, is pretty bizarre. I think the intentions are good and I appreciate that, but, for me, it's kind of like a kid watching NOVA for a few hours and then asking the astronaut if he knows what he's about to get into before boarding.

I would ask you to pardon my initial are-you-fu#$ing-kidding-me? reaction, but, that seems ridiculous, considering almost everything naturally makes me think, "Are you fu#$ing kidding me?" and I don't see any real sense in censoring that.

Sorry. To give you some background, I grew up in the same fu#$ed up Springfield area as Jenny Mae and Bela and it may have had some undue influence on my general state of disappointment and disbelief with my generation since I was about 4 or 5 years old. But, that's no excuse. Who knows? I think there's still hope for us and I'm pretty impressed with the younger ones coming up.

As for potential voyeurs, that would be weird, but, we're prepared. People to whom nothing has ever happened cannot understand the unimportance of events.

_________________People to whom nothing has ever happened cannot understand the unimportance of events.

The exact sort of absurdity that kept Jenny rolling was all the sad freaks running around with guitars, evaluating their set at the end of the night as if their personal worth and joy was somehow connected to and dependant upon their random performance,

you mean after all this time you're gonna tell me it's not!?!Fuck! I've wasted a lot of time and emotions over nothing.

(with that being said)there's a thread around the corner...

you assholes.

Jenny Mae*trumpetsMike Mckeegan*one guitarDavey Highben*another guitar & voice.audio recorded by Mike Rep @ the annex.video borrowed from other videos on the internets.