Long term effects from pesticides & chemicals in street weed?

Sorry Pak, I get carried away sometimes. I don't mean to offend, but I'm pretty passionate about this particular issue. I spent a few years on the garden island, and have close friends and relatives there that are directly involved with the GMO backlash; hawaii seems to be the front line of the fight against these poisons.

The fact is that GMOs and pesticides are part of the same conversation, now that monsanto has engineered pesticide (roundup/sodium glyphosate) tolerance, as well as the pesticide itself right into the vast majority of our food crops. This amounts to a declared war on the human race, as well as the environment.

And there are legitimate concerns that soros/monsanto will do the same thing to marijuana, in fact they are already working on it. If anybody can change mj from a medicine to a poison, it's these guys!

Roundup works by exploding the stomach of the insect, and unfortunately has a horrible effect on animals and human beings. "Roundup ready" crops are engineered to take on the roundup pesticide without dying. That pesticide gets passed right on to to whoever consumes these crops, and sodium glyphosate is not fit for human or animal consumption. Despite this, monsanto and the like has done this to 75-80% of our food.

If you look into it, you will find that almost of the studies that suggest that glyphosate and modified food consumption are safe have been funded (and even administered) by monsanto themselves.

However, studies done by damn near everyone else have come up with much different results, finding that GMOs/glyphosate can cause: cell damage, cancer, non-Hodgkin Lymphoma, Parkinson's disease, infertility, and many other diseases, and can add further complications to existing ones. Personally I am against the deliberate poisoning of the human race, even when it's being subsidized by the world's sole imperialistic superpower. Imo it's not enough to just try avoid GMOs in my own diet, the truth needs to be set free.

Sorry Pak, I get carried away sometimes. I don't mean to offend, but I'm pretty passionate about this particular issue. I spent a few years on the garden island, and have close friends and relatives there that are directly involved with the GMO backlash; hawaii seems to be the front line of the fight against these poisons.

And there are legitimate concerns that soros/monsanto will do the same thing to marijuana, in fact they are already working on it. If anybody can change mj from a medicine to a poison, it's these guys!

Roundup works by exploding the stomach of the insect, and unfortunately has a horrible effect on animals and human beings. "Roundup ready" crops are engineered to take on the roundup pesticide without dying. That pesticide gets passed right on to to whoever consumes these crops, and sodium glyphosate is not fit for human or animal consumption. Despite this, monsanto and the like has done this to 80% of our food supply.

If you look into it, you will find that almost of the studies that suggest that glyphosate and modified food consumption are safe have been funded (and even administered) by monsanto themselves.

However, studies done by damn near everyone else have come up with much different results, finding that GMOs/glyphosate can cause: cell damage, cancer, non-Hodgkin Lymphoma, Parkinson's disease, infertility, and many other diseases, and can add further complications to existing ones. Personally I am against the deliberate poisoning of the human race, even when it's being subsidized by the world's sole imperialistic superpower. Imo it's not enough to just try avoid GMOs in my own diet, the truth needs to be set free.

Couldn't agree more. W/ the damage caused by gmo's, it's hard not to consider them just another toxin. Millions of people aren't attempting to seek healthier lifestyles just because they are tree huggers. When some try to place the blame on 'street dealers' (like most are copping a dime bag off some tweaker in the hood?) and pretend gov controlled disps are going to be so much safer for us, it's important to note the total disregard and lack of concern for human life that most gov's exhibit in this area. Many of the chemicals most of us don't want in our medicine would be completely legal, cheaper and easier to use for growers supplying disps.

I think this thread has evolved to be more inclusive of potential dangers associated w/ our meds - beyond what many typically think about. Obviously there are some that care.

It's good and bad. Many growers can't or won't reform and the disps want the grower to eat the costs of testing. The only way the testing would mean anything, imo, is if the disp did it themselves. Otherwise what would stop a grower from obtaining a test certificate and giving the disp whatever they want? pretty tough to match paperwork to a flower. Also, there aren't great guidelines for testing with this new process yet. It's a 1st step anyhow, and hopefully will improve.

The last line of the article says it all: "There is only so much the consumer is willing to pay in Oregon." People around here w/ limited hookups don't want to pay more than $250/oz for fantastic nugs. $200/oz is top dollar for me, and at that I have pretty high expectations. Seeing how that is what disps have been charging around here, it's hard to imagine them successfully passing these costs on to the consumer. imo, it's part of the cost of doing business which should already be allowed for w/ the millions disps are raking in.

FromThe Toxins That Threaten Our Brains
This is a very alarming article. The first part, all about pesticides, is particularly relevant.
"a “silent pandemic” of toxins has been damaging the brains of unborn children. The experts named 12 chemicals—substances found in both the environment and everyday items like furniture and clothing—that they believed to be causing not just lower IQs but ADHD and autism spectrum disorder. Pesticides were among the toxins they identified.

“I advise pregnant women to try to eat organic because it reduces their exposure by 80 or 90 percent,” he told me. “These are the chemicals I really worry about in terms of American kids, the organophosphate pesticides like chlorpyrifos.” For decades, chlorpyrifos, marketed by Dow Chemical beginning in 1965, was the most widely used insect killer in American homes.

Chlorpyrifos is just one of 12 toxic chemicals Landrigan and Grandjean say are having grim effects on fetal brain development. Their new study is similar to a review the two researchers published in 2006, in the same journal, identifying six developmental neurotoxins. Only now they describe twice the danger: The number of chemicals that they deemed to be developmental neurotoxins had doubled over the past seven years. Six had become 12. Their sense of urgency now approached panic. “Our very great concern,” Grandjean and Landrigan wrote, “is that children worldwide are being exposed to unrecognized toxic chemicals that are silently eroding intelligence, disrupting behaviors, truncating future achievements and damaging societies.”

monsanto has engineered pesticide (roundup/sodium glyphosate) tolerance, as well as the pesticide itself right into the vast majority of our food crops. This amounts to a declared war on the human race, as well as the environment...

...Roundup works by exploding the stomach of the insect, and unfortunately has a horrible effect on animals and human beings. "Roundup ready" crops are engineered to take on the roundup pesticide without dying. That pesticide gets passed right on to to whoever consumes these crops, and sodium glyphosate is not fit for human or animal consumption. Despite this, monsanto and the like has done this to 75-80% of our food.

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Roundup (Glyphosate) is an herbicide my friend. Plants don't require genetic modification to be resistant to pesticides. I doubt this means we are worry-free from this modification, but that exploding stomachs stuff is false.

Roundup (Glyphosate) is an herbicide my friend. Plants don't require genetic modification to be resistant to pesticides. I doubt this means we are worry-free from this modification, but that exploding stomachs stuff is false.

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Technically, I think I think it is an herbicide, but even the pros seem to mix this terminology:

Roundup (Glyphosate) is an herbicide my friend. Plants don't require genetic modification to be resistant to pesticides. I doubt this means we are worry-free from this modification, but that exploding stomachs stuff is false.

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You're right, I got my monsanto gmo poisons mixed up

I was thinking of another one that they've engineered into our crops, bt toxin:

"Monsanto's genetically modified "Bt" corn is equipped with a gene from soil bacteria—a pesticide that breaks open the stomach of certain insects and kills them. Bt toxin has now also been detected in the blood of 93 percent of pregnant women tested; 80 percent of babies; and 67 percent of non-pregnant women."

Brought to our food supply by the same company that brought us
DDT, RGH, PCBs, dioxin, agent orange, the list goes on

Btw DDT is an insecticide, and Roundup's still worse:

"the active ingredient in Monsanto’s weed killer Glyphosate, which is the most common weed killer in the US and just happens to be more toxic than DDT. Roundup can accumulate and persist in the soil for years, where it kills off beneficial microbes and stimulates virulence of pathogens"

If you're interested, the "story at a glance" on the upper right has the bullet points:

"Bt corn plants might represent a risk because most hybrids express the Bt toxin in pollen, and corn pollen is dispersed over at least 60 metres by wind. Corn pollen is deposited on other plants near corn fields and can be ingested by the non-target organisms that consume these plants. In a laboratory assay we found that larvae of the monarch butterfly, Danaus plexippus, reared on milkweed leaves dusted with pollen from Bt corn, ate less, grew more slowly and suffered higher mortality than larvae reared on leaves dusted with untransformed corn pollen or on leaves without pollen."