Rebel leader claims decomposed bodies among Malaysian wreckage

That's pretty messed up. Just like with the other plane, I'm pretty sure we'll never know the truth.

Of course you'll never know the truth. This is what you get if you chase silly conspiracy theories.

*pffftt* One doesn't need to believe in conspiracies to know that we will never know the truth. Why? because it is a known FACT that the U.S has
allowed for propaganda to be used in the media. It is a known FACT that Russia uses propaganda in the media. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to
know that from those two facts alone (not conspiracies) that we will never know the truth.

The fact that I always question what I'm being told from media sources that use propaganda doesn't mean it's silly. The fact that I always wonder
what the ulterior motive is for propaganda stories does mean it's silly. It means I do not buy into the b.s lies that are being spun. I'm not a
sheep thank you.

originally posted by: svetlana84
Since i do not trust most media outlets, I prefer sources from the source.

Which nowadays are mobile videos from eyewitnesses. So i watched a couple of them from the place the plane impacted. They are graphic. Very
graphic.

I do not want to go into details too much, since the pictures are haunting (kids involved!).

But none of the bodies i ve seen looked like decomposed. None.

One thing that puzzled me was they have been mostly naked. I have no idea how that happenend. It looks the have been stripped after the impact.

Anyways, its a terrible thing when a plane comes down, accident or targeted.
If you want to see the videos yourself, you will find them at liveleak.
Let me warn you again. They are graphic. Very graphic. You do yourself a favour in not looking at them.

Yes, many are naked or half naked,
I'm assuming some got sucked out and the looser clothing was sucked off, first.

The only thing I saw that struck me as odd, is some corpses looked stiff, like rigormortis had set in. Arms sticking straight up. Mind you, they may
just be broken and ended up that way. The fact they are left there in hot sun speeds up decomposition.
I heard on the news, last night, 38 bodies had been taken and hidden.

There's a real cover up going on here. I don't trust Ukraine, Russia or the US.

So, the Ukrainians SHOT DOWN an airliner over they're airpsace, and THEY are saying there are "decomposed" old bodies? How long do you think a
traumatized body takes to decompose when it's sitting, disrespectfully, out in the hot sun baking? And your going to trust them on that? Why do you
THINK they targeted a Malaysian Airlines aircraft? becasue this wasn't an accident. It was an OPERATION. The question you have to be asking yourself
is, where there ANY russian government assets in the vicintiy of MH370 when it disapeared? Putin is ex-KGB. He thinks like a spook. So do I. I also
told my wife that the spooks from the SCA's would cough up the ELINT intercepts within 24 hours and that it would be an SA-11/20. Like I said. Old
spooks think like spooks. It's NOT like we haven't seen this before. Shooting an airliner down with a SAM, on purpose, yeah, look at FlightAware.com
and pick your target. It's BETTER than radar! It gives you course speed and altitude. That's how a SAM works. It calculates a datum for were to make
the plane and the missile meet in a 3-D space. Knowing the targets course, speed and altitude? Gravy. Forgetting that the spooks are watching and
using your radar anyway? PRICELESS. This isn't MH370. I'm pretty sure the Russian government already took care of that too!

Or that the previous months flights (as shown on Flight Recorder) all flew the same route, more or less....

There was nothing unusual about the flight path, or in fact the previous flights that day that went over the same area, I believe a Singapore airlines
flight passed without incident over the same space.

I think this type of thread and some of the posters within shows how ATS has sunk in recent years - anything to try and confirm the "fashionable"
anti-West rhetoric with little to no critical thinking, while ignoring easy to find and confirm evidence which proves these crackpot theories are
exactly that.

a reply to: Zaphod58
So what does one do if your pilot is a risk taker?

I realize the path was deemed safe but that just gets them off the hook for any liability. They followed rules.

They wanted to save on fuel costs and duration of the flights, when they decided not to do as other airlines were, who change routes because all of
Ukraine was considered unsafe. Save on fuel costs and now look what happened. It's called stepping over a dollar to pick up a dime. No consideration
given to passengers safety.

Should the passengers be informed before boarding, that we will fly over a war zone?
I think they should.

Pilots that are risk takers don't fly commercial for very long. They're usually weeded out before they get to flying for a major airline, and very
very few make it to the point where something might happen because of it.

Yes they should be informed. In this case, based on the best information available at the time, the ICAO and other authorities made the best decision
they could with what they had.

Yes they should be informed. In this case, based on the best information available at the time, the ICAO and other authorities made the best decision
they could with what they had.

Well that was my point.
Sometimes regulations aren't always in the best interest of safe passage. Other airlines let their common sense over-rule. They decided it wasn' t
worth risking. Malaysia Airlines could not afford to.
Simple as that. And they know it.

I think the plane was shot down unintentionally. Would not have happened had they not been in the sky, in the way, so to speak.

Quite a few of those airlines that went for safety over profit have been caught flying over the Ukraine anyway, right up until this flight was shot
down. Publicly they were saying the right things though.

Commercial air travel, even in war zones has always been fairly sacrosanct. Yes some have been shot down, but if you look at the numbers, it's still
as safe as flying anywhere else. Countries involved in fighting know that if something happens it can bring the world community down on them.

originally posted by: haven123
tweet published in Russian on June 17, 2014 (a month before the crash). Translation from Russian: Soon above Ukraine (using Ruin as a derogatory
name for Ukraine) an airliner stuffed full of euro-tourists will be shot down. This will be the reason for official NATO invitation. That’s the way
I see it

haven123 ... care to dig up this alleged original tweet of June 17? A google search for similar content to this alleged tweet shows the oldest being
only 2 days ago.... to me it seems like, surprise, surprise.. more propaganda.
But if you can find anything authentic going back beyond this crash, I am all ears.

As to the AIDS researchers and workers to attend the conference, this is a real loss. These would have been fine people with a genuine interest in
humanity often performing a thankless task. Not many people today want to be told that the answer is to be more moral and not to whore themselves
about. I do not disagree that big pharma does terrible things to make profits or that some people want depopulation. I just cannot see it in this
incident at present. I think probably big pharma in this instance just got real lucky.

he asks for the source i spend time getting it and now not a peep...

alsowhen i quote someone t comes ontomy post as if i wrote it and not in a bubble am i doing somthing wrong?

So, the Ukrainians SHOT DOWN an airliner over they're airpsace, and THEY are saying there are "decomposed" old bodies? How long do you think a
traumatized body takes to decompose when it's sitting, disrespectfully, out in the hot sun baking? And your going to trust them on that? Why do you
THINK they targeted a Malaysian Airlines aircraft? becasue this wasn't an accident.

Why is an accident so out of the possibility?

Russian military gives them a $20 million dollar piece of equipment and ordered to give a crash course to a bunch of, well, ethanol-baked meatheads in
the rebellion. They practice tracking a target, don't know exactly whether the safety is on or not, don't know how to read transponder codes or
flight paths or anything like that. Russia, remember?

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