Are you kidding me? As a 49ers fan, I realize he may not be head coach material due to his lack of an offensive mindset, but the guy got the head coaching job based on his phenomenal performance as defensive coordinator. The great 49er defense that exists today was built primarily by Singletary, and he got a lot out of his defense as coordinator. I think the Vikings would be lucky to have a d coordinator like Mike.

This team is not far off. Get a #1 Receiver which there should be plenty in Free Agency (Vincent jackson or Desean Jackson) and get a decent corner like cortlain finnagan out of tennesee or Brent Grimes out of Atlanta. Draft Kali at LT with the first pick move chris johnson to OG. And get a few good safteys in the draft and pickup a real NT in free agency. They do all that and The Vikings will be a 9+ win team next season.

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You must be the former Pervy Harvin who haunted these parts and always had delusions when it came to the Vikes.

This team must avoid shortcuts if it wants to be a long term player in the league.

9 wins next season under any circumstances is a dream.

The bones are not there to build upon.

And the personnel department doesn’t have a clue when it comes to judging talent.

This whole thing of the inmates running the asylum began with the courting and begging of Brett Favre to come out of retirement and lead them to the promised land. And now the franchise has become a laughing stock. It’s time to hire a strong, football savvy general manager with the power to hire and fire the head coach. And to rebuild the team from the ground up. Look at the Green Bay Packers for your model and inspiration.

But, they won’t. They’ll keep on lurching along. And sink even lower and lower.

]]>By: theytukrjobshttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/vikings-defenders-regularly-ignored-play-calls/#comment-1452461
Sat, 17 Dec 2011 00:06:57 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173645#comment-1452461You can only fire so many head coaches over player mutiny before you start to wonder if the players are to blame.

Sorry to say but play calling is the least of this team’s worries. Once players start worrying about the play call, you are screwed no matter what you do. They need to just shut up and execute the play.

Memo to the defense: You, collectively, aren’t as good as Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady, heck as a group you aren’t much better than Tarvaris Jackson or John Skelton.

You’re paid to follow the playcall the D Coordinator wants. Not to audible and “freestyle” your own defense.

Explains a lot to me about how the Vikings kept collapsing in the 2nd half of games in the beginning of the season, that’s for sure.

]]>By: fcmlefty1http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/vikings-defenders-regularly-ignored-play-calls/#comment-1452278
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:51:10 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173645#comment-1452278also, Fan of 28 – go back and look to see what opposing TE’s have done to the Vikings defense the past few years. Its scary. And that falls directly on Greenway as he’s the one LB thats always on the field.

I find it comical that you can defend the guy. He’s paid to be an impact player. Name the last game he had a truly positive impact. I’ll stick with the 2007 game in the Meadowlands vs the Giants. That was 5 seasons ago. There is no defending his lack of impact over the last 3 seasons now.

]]>By: fcmlefty1http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/vikings-defenders-regularly-ignored-play-calls/#comment-1452273
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:47:30 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173645#comment-1452273FANof28 – you’ve just proven that you don’t understand how the tampa 2 is run. Thanks. Let me guess: You have Greenway in a Fantasy league that has IDP, so you think he is a stud with those 118 tackles?

To clue you in: The Tampa 2 is a scheme that, if played correctly by the front 7, will dictate that every single running play is schematically funneled to the OLB’s. Derrick Brooks is the gold standard of the Tampa 2 OLB’s. Can you honestly say, that when you use your eyeballs and not just read a stat sheet, that Greenway is anywhere near what Derrick Brooks was? Derrick Brooks worst season is better than anything Greenway has put together in his career. And yet the Vikings thought he was a franchise player? Its scary that thier pro personel department (Spielman and others) is that blind.

]]>By: stevenfbracketthttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/vikings-defenders-regularly-ignored-play-calls/#comment-1452251
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:36:35 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173645#comment-1452251Ya know, we knew this would be a rebuilding year with the double disasters that were Favre and Childress that doomed us last season. We weren’t expecting you to win the Superbowl. We weren’t even expecting you to win the division.

We were expecting you to be a little bit better than last year, though, and maybe, just maybe, even get into the general vicinity of .500.

Was that really too much to ask for this year?

]]>By: bozosforallhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/vikings-defenders-regularly-ignored-play-calls/#comment-1452249
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:36:12 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173645#comment-1452249arrfarssle says:
Dec 16, 2011 3:58 PM
The problem with the Vikings is their coach has a girls’ name. It’s simple. Look at the history and no coach has ever won a Super Bowl with a girl’s name. coaches that win are named, Mike, Sean, Bill, Tom Tony, John, Dick, Brian, Jimmy, Vince, Weeb, Hank, and Chuck. Not Leslie. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it

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Sean (Payton) is a girl’s name. So much for your hairbrained theory.

]]>By: bozosforallhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/vikings-defenders-regularly-ignored-play-calls/#comment-1452232
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:28:58 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173645#comment-1452232adantsa says:
Dec 16, 2011 3:21 PM
Yet they are still ranked #18. Ahead of the Pats. And the Packers. And the Bears. Just one below the Lions.

The defense isn’t the problem. It’s the offense. LOL
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You must not be watching the games…

We’ve blown huge leads, we’ve fallen behind by 3-4 scores on a regular basis before the offense makes a push…the only reason we are middle of the pack statstically is because teams don’t run on the Vikes (no need to) and Jared Allen (or as Brian Billick calls him, Gerald).

The secondary is horrendous and has been for some time. The linebackers are mediocre and Kevin Williams (one of my favorite Vikings of all time) is starting to look old.

It’s time to revamp. I don’t think we have the personnel for a 3-4 but something must be done.

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Not watching the games? Why would I? Your team sucks.

Then again, neither is “weepingpenus”, the guy that I was responding to. Just be glad that others want to call out losers like him for dogging your team. I was trying to be nice to you Vikings fans but if you want to look a gift horse in the mouth, don’t get mad when he bites your fingers off.

]]>By: goawayeverybodyhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/vikings-defenders-regularly-ignored-play-calls/#comment-1452216
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:22:08 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173645#comment-1452216I just saw an interview where Adrian Peterson admitted he’s taking the field in part because of fantasy football whiners begging him to play. Does this strike anyone else as insane?
]]>By: FANof28http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/vikings-defenders-regularly-ignored-play-calls/#comment-1452189
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:06:13 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173645#comment-1452189fcmlefty1

I think it’s incredible that you can say Greenway has no business sticking on a NFL roster. The guy has averaged over a hundred tackles for all five years since he’s been a full time starter. And i’m sorry but you don’t design a defense to “channel” plays towards one linebacker who has no business playing in the league, that just doesnt make sense. If you wanna discredit his play by bringing up FF’s and INT’s then I think you’re clueless. The Vikings secondary hasn’t been respectable in a long time. Pretty much all of the passing plays against them are past the second level of defense which means he’s never going to get alot of INT’s. He’s got 118 tackles this year because he’s beaten guys the the ball carrier 118 times this year. Maybe try goin after the other linebackers we’ve had in the past five years before you tear into greenway

]]>By: teal379http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/vikings-defenders-regularly-ignored-play-calls/#comment-1452171
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:57:35 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173645#comment-1452171Going to a 3-4 is not a bad thing. Mike McCarthy – a guy who apparently knows a thing or 2 about offenses – said that a 3-4 makes you do certain things on offense – it’s harder to game plan against and that’s why he brought in Dom and made the switch. (Plus the D flat sucked)

Remember GB was a 4-3 before Capers was here and it’s why the let Kampen go – he couldn’t play the 3-4

Yeah JA is a great DE but long term/over all – MN might be better in the 3-4 and JA would garner them some picks to get LB talent for the switch.

]]>By: veence69http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/vikings-defenders-regularly-ignored-play-calls/#comment-1452165
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:55:52 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173645#comment-1452165So they blew off the Defensive Coordinator’s calls, called their own coverages out of the huddle and then proceeded to get torched?

Good job, guys.

]]>By: granadafanhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/vikings-defenders-regularly-ignored-play-calls/#comment-1452155
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:51:53 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173645#comment-1452155“KIR says:
Dec 16, 2011 2:18 PM
Wow, the former defensive player of the year. Middle Linebacker and on field player caller for the 46 defense (one of the best in the history of the NFL) and Hall of Famer doesn’t even get the benefit of the doubt of being capable of being the defensive coordinator. Not surprised.”

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Look at history. Great players rarely make great coaches given their ego (not a negative), unrealistic expectations, and impatience in players who were not as great as they were.

]]>By: maurice1108http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/vikings-defenders-regularly-ignored-play-calls/#comment-1452154
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:51:32 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173645#comment-1452154This team is not far off. Get a #1 Receiver which there should be plenty in Free Agency (Vincent jackson or Desean Jackson) and get a decent corner like cortlain finnagan out of tennesee or Brent Grimes out of Atlanta. Draft Kali at LT with the first pick move chris johnson to OG. And get a few good safteys in the draft and pickup a real NT in free agency. They do all that and The Vikings will be a 9+ win team next season.
]]>By: moondog7http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/vikings-defenders-regularly-ignored-play-calls/#comment-1452139
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:42:31 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173645#comment-1452139Its time to clean house. GM, Coaches, players. Get as many draft picks as possible and build the future around your stars. If you have to trade an AP or Jared allen now is the time. When they are in their prime. We haven’t had a secondary in the last 20 years. This team has hit its peak two years ago with 12 men in the huddle. The time is now to rebuild. We cant have a GM making terrible draft selections anymore. We can’t have a coaching staff linked to the former one that was a disaster. Just clean house and set new standards. We are turning into the cubs of the NFL.
]]>By: maurice1108http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/vikings-defenders-regularly-ignored-play-calls/#comment-1452133
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:39:48 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173645#comment-1452133Its all good cause once Raheim Morris gets fired as head coach of the Bucs the Vikings can fire Pagac and hire Morris as the DC. Switching to a 3-4 is not the solution its a mix of coaches and players not being on the same page. Get a coach who can actually coach what the head coach wants and get a few players that can actually play then u got urself a team to compete with the rest of the NFL.
]]>By: twobelowzerohttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/vikings-defenders-regularly-ignored-play-calls/#comment-1452102
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:28:53 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173645#comment-1452102“Vikings defenders” is an oxymoron.

Funniest thing ive heard all day.

the vikings have not changed their game play since the gary anderson field goal kick.. i mean anyone who trys to defend their game play doesnt know much about the sport of football. its like saying tim tebow is a good qb.. ur never gonna win a just cause. when i can turn on 5 mins of the game and call 75% of their plays its pretty sad. the vikings d line has been the most valuable part of the orginaztion. so when you are trying beat the vikings what do you do? you throw the ball behind the d line… thats what all teams do and thats why they are 2-11. even with the queens getting a 2nd pick they will still waste it. i just say move to la so i dont have to see them play every sunday..

]]>By: jimmyseehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/vikings-defenders-regularly-ignored-play-calls/#comment-1452101
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:28:30 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173645#comment-1452101The Vikings are so pathetic … it’s not even amusing to pick on them anymore.

This will not turn around for like four years … and then only if everything goes perfectly well going forward.

There’s probably only five players this team should hold on to.

The Vikings do represent an excellent opportunity for any undrafted free agent after the 2012 NFL draft.

The team has no history of drafting quality players. Don’t argue with me about AP and Harvin — even a broke clock is right twice a day.

If you are defending Greenway by citing his tackle numbers, you are simply clueless.

Do you watch the games? Greenway is completely pedestrian. Reason his tackle numbers are high? The defense is designed to channel every play to him. Yes, he does tackle the ball carrier – 5 to 8 yards down the field. He can’t play pass coverage worth two squirts of monkey piss. He hasn’t made an impact, game changing play since 2007 in the Meadowlands. This year, he has 1 whole whoppin’ sack, no INT’s and only 1 (!) pass defended while opposing TE’s put up monster game after monster game against him. He’s forced 7 fumbles in 5 seasons. The dud has had one good season – back in 2008. His other 4 years have been played at a level of a guy who has no business sticking on an NFL roster. And the Vikings franchised him. Pathetic.

]]>By: fcmlefty1http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/vikings-defenders-regularly-ignored-play-calls/#comment-1452070
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:14:19 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173645#comment-1452070I actually had this 3-4 debate with Tom Pelissero over twitter a few weeks back. He’s of the belief that Jared Allen would magically be able to play OLB in a 3-4. I’m of the opposite opinion. Name me one 4-3 DE that ever changed to a 3-4 OLB late in his career and became a better player. No need to keep looking – you won’t find one.

If you want to overhaul the defense, fine, I have no problem with that. But dominant 4-3 DE’s are the 2nd toughest thing to find in football after elite QB’s. We already have one, arguably the best one in the NFC and one of the top 5 in the NFL. You build around that, not destroy it by making him play OLB. You rebuild the 4-3 around Allen, or you trade him. Its that simple.

]]>By: nflcrazinesshttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/vikings-defenders-regularly-ignored-play-calls/#comment-1452068
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:13:40 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173645#comment-1452068Jared Allen could esily transition to an outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense. Heck, he’s our best cover guy anyway!
]]>By: gb4mn0http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/vikings-defenders-regularly-ignored-play-calls/#comment-1452063
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:12:20 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173645#comment-1452063This isn’t surprising to me. It’s just another example of what a bottom feeding 3rd rate expansion team this organization has always been.
]]>By: cags777http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/16/vikings-defenders-regularly-ignored-play-calls/#comment-1452057
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:10:05 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173645#comment-1452057I read the story last night. To tell you the truth, it made me pretty angry as a Vikings fan. I have only seen two Vikings players on the defense do their jobs (Jared Allen and Chad Greenway). The missed coverages and lack of effort from others in the backfield show Coach Frazier needs to bench these guys, give them one more chance, or cut them at the end of the season.

I do agree that Fred Pagic has got to go and that Mike Singletary could be a viable option to take over as defensive coordinator. However, he has to keep the defense at a 4-3. Otherwise you’re screwing up Allen and others who have actually thrived under the 4-3 system.

I am also one of the few Vikings fans willing to stick with Frazier for at least one more season. He had a huge mess to clean up last year. He’ll need one full offseason to clean house and actually draft competent players that could at least keep the Vikings competitive in the NFC North (please note, I am not expecting them to win the division or even keep the playoffs).

Frazier made some great moves at the beginning of the season – things that were long overdue. But he needs to show me, as a fan, he wants this organization to succeed.