Acting Director of National Intelligence Richard “Ric” Grenell announced today he is in the process of declassifying the transcripts of the calls between Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak and former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn.

Within a twitter response by Grenell, part of the riddle behind the transcripts gets a little more clarity: “The IC doesn’t have all the transcripts/summaries…. it wasn’t our product.”

The implication here is the U.S. Intelligence Community (IC) did not generate one of the transcripts; that evolved into an FBI equity, and was later used in their case against Lt. General Michael Flynn. The December 29, 2016, intercept was not exclusive to the U.S. intelligence apparatus, and the call summary became proprietary to the FBI; the agency exploiting the underlying content.

This makes sense and explains how the FBI was able to manipulate the framework of the call and keep the remaining U.S. intelligence system away from their internal plan.

There was more than one phone call and conversation between Flynn and Kislyak. Some immediately after the election and in/around mid-December 2016. Reports of those contacts and communications WERE in the U.S. IC network and those reports led to unmasking requests. However, the specific December 29th communication was not an exclusive intercept of the U.S. intelligence community and therefore easier for the FBI to shape.

When Susan Rice, and now all of the downstream politicians, are requesting the release of the Flynn-Kislyak transcripts, those specific demands do not encompass the Dec.29th call; and it appears from the political narrative being assembled, the democrats do not necessarily expect DNI Grenell to be able to release the transcript of that specific call.

Example:

Declassify the documents & supporting requests that led to multiple govt officials to unmask Flynn on Dec 14-16, 2016.

Thanks for showing up on Twitter. You never once came to brief the Intel Committee (First DNI Director who failed to do so). If you have nothing to hide, why don’t you release Flynn’s call with Russia? #ShowUsTheTapehttps://t.co/2CbV9O1xMA

DNI Ric Grenell is signaling that he intends to release all the call transcripts not just the ones obtained by U.S. intelligence intercepts.

The “CR cuts” are summaries of the intercepted communication and therefore subject to being manipulated or shaped by the FBI official doing the summary. The call summary is subject to interpretation and shaping much like a 302 report would be. However, Grenell doesn’t just want to release the FBI summary, he wants to release the full transcript.

This approach by Grenell seems to confirm what we have been assembling about the transcripts, the “CR cuts”, and how the FBI used them.

There are intercepted communications between Flynn-Kislyak that were part of the ongoing FBI investigation of Flynn and monitoring of Russian interests. Those intercepts became reports, and within those reports Flynn was masked; and later unmasked by political operatives.

However, the specific December 29, 2016, call while Flynn was in the Dominican Republic was a third party intelligence intercept; transferred to the FBI exclusively as part of their counterintelligence operation. That 12/29/16 intercept generated proprietary FBI “CR cuts” or summaries of that intercepted communication specific to the FBI investigation. That call content remained outside the larger intelligence community. Hence Grenell saying: “The IC doesn’t have all the transcripts/summaries…. it wasn’t our product.”

But Grenell is working to bring that specific FBI equity (call transcript) into the IC and release it -in total- along with all other transcripts that were already within the control of the IC; thus Grenell gives an honest presentation of the totality of the contact, not just the parts that have been manipulated and shaped by officials in their targeting of Flynn.

Combine what Grenell is doing along with the announcement by FBI Director Chris Wray today, to review FBI action in the Flynn investigation, and a more fulsome picture emerges.

As many have long suspected the FBI shaped the December 29, 2016, call content; the FBI biased interpretation of what took place on that call; specifically to target Flynn. They were able to do this, in part, because they exclusively held the evidence they were shaping.

With U.S. Attorney Jeff Jensen now reviewing the background evidence, and with DNI Ric Grenell declassifying and releasing the underlying documents, the truth is being pushed to the surface….

I suspect that Comey has A LOT of dirt on a LOT of people – he will not go down without a fight! Would definitely NOT recommend he go walking in Fort Marcy Park…Hillary sure has gotten quiet since Obama started making comments about the Flynn case.

Bet both camps are furiously spinning and calling in favors in order to pin the whole thing on the other one. Obama is a lazy, arrogant shyster who is still convinced that he is the smartest one in the room but if push comes to shove, my money would be on Hillary. She is pure ruthless evil and there is no one she will not throw under the bus (and then back it up and run over them a few more times) if it will further her interests or protect her pantsuited backside!

My bet would be on the Clinton’s having more pull than Obama. They had the Clinton Foundation which essentially was a money laundering enterprise. My guess is most of Washington has ties to it as well as Obama so they can get their kickbacks from government aid to other countries. Why else would Obama allow her to have an illegal server under his watch?

Agree 100% – but I do think Benghazi was a joint Hillary Clinton/John McCain operation. Obama was probably out golfing, then getting stoned, and then hanging with Reggie Love and had no idea anything was even happening until he was told the next morning. The photo in the Situation Room was so clearly photoshopped it wasn’t even funny – probably done by the same incompetents who “created” the fake birth certificate and didn’t bother to merge the different layers!

I think Comey flips and says something like, “All the things I am charged with, I did at the direct orders of Obama and others in his administration.” He is a wimp and will NOT fall on the grenade like General Flynn did for his son.

I don’t think Comey will flip, too much ego, thinks he’s the smartest in the room and can talk himself out of any situation…example his confessional interview with Wallace. But he might have a slip and fall or a redwood tree fall on his head as he’s walking in the forest taking pictures.
Wasn’t it McCabe who threatened to rat everyone out as he was about to get indicted? Ray has been covering for his crooked brethren for too long….dump Ray.

That, and perhaps the FBI “cuts” we’re manipulated, and don’t match the actual transcript. And perhaps the FBI summary of Strozk’s 302 doesn’t match the original 302 or the real transcript. In other words, maybe Flynn never even misspoke about the conversation.

Phil: Let’s not forget the Vindman summary of the President’s Ukraine call. This is the way they operate, make up stuff, but we can’t see the proof because it’s classified. It’s time to have some serious revisions to the classification system. I see it as mostly a fraud.

Who would just take for granted a “cut”? That’s fishy, to rely on the interpretation of selective transcripts?
That’s nutty and negligent. What did they do at university? Compose their thesis from the encyclopedia?

“exclusive FBI product?” i’m not so sure. How could it get to the FBI without going through the NSA’s system, thus being available to the whole IC? Could it have been a British Intelligence product stove-piped to the FBI Coup Leaders. Or Russian. Or Italian. Or Iranian. Or the George Soros Intelligence network. Methinks this looooooooonnnnnnnnggggg build-up may finally be getting somewhere.

Look at the opening of Crossfire Hurricane. Peter Strzok went into the office on July 31, 2016. It was a Sunday and almost no one else was around. Bill Priestap was in London. Strzok used a technicality that allowed him to both open and approve Crossfire Hurricane.

They can’t even apprehend domestic terrorists before they strike, even when they are served up on a silver platter with information from foreign governments (Boston Marathon bombers) or multiple citizens calling it tip lines that a certain young man is a threat and has even posted his intent online.

Grennell needs a position in which he has actual top-of-the-food-chain authority. “Tzars’ external to the chain of command need cooperation.
CIA or FBI Director would be ‘official’ with authority to re-organize, hire, demote, re-locate, obtain records, etc. And fire upon encountering ‘resistance’.

Well, in ONE sense, it ain’t the journey, its the destination,..when your talking death.
On the other hand, some seem preferable.
Would like to see some humbling, first. Perp walk in an orange jump suit would be nice.

newamericandeplorable,
That is the issue. Without CTH, Sundance’s articles, classes etc., THE TREEPER Community, and some our sites, we would have no idea of the depth of the corruption, the UniParty, the swam, and how interconnected they all are.

I am still very ignorant of many things that are happening, can see some of the marionette strings. Probably much more then the people who receive all their information from the LSM.

All one can do is watch, pray, Thank Our Heavenly Father for PDJT, and pray for PDJT’S protection, for himself, HIS family, staff, cabinet and the USA

Note: Hannigan was the former director the GCHQ, Step down, January 23, 2016. If the following is true, then perhaps we will yet know what arrived in that letter to Flynn from Britain.

If Hannigan had turned this transcript over through official channels, it would have been subjected to mandatory minimization under U.S. law and, as such, could not have been the basis of the Yates intervention on Jan. 26. This eliminates the FBI, the Department of Justice and the NSA as viable conduits for any Flynn-related intelligence sourced to GCHQ. If, however, Hannigan provided the Flynn transcript to the CIA using back channels, then John Brennan, CIA director under Obama, emerges as the leading culprit behind the leak—breathing life into Nunes’ assertion that the Flynn leak could only have come from the “highest levels” of the Obama administration.

If Barr ends up dumping the case with no indictments,100M Americans will be screaming at PT and his poor judgement in keeping Barr and Wray when he had a 105 mph fastball pitcher in the bullpen in Grenell.

Let’s hope this FIB internal investigation isn’t just a show.

My guess is if you polled the 100M MAGA supporters asking them their level of trust of Grenell, Barr and Wray we could results like this….

Bogeyfree,
I do not accept the premise of your post.
100m Deplorables will NOT ‘scream at PT and his poor judgement at keeping Wray and Barr’; they will remember what happened the last time PDJT fired an FBI Director,…they will recall that while many loudmouth hotheads were’screaming’ at PTto fire Muller team, Sessions and Rosie, that PDJT, Being VSG, saw that that was a trap, that would have given Senate,Republiconsthe excuse to say they would vote to convict, muh “Nixons Saturday night massacre, all over again! Even POTUS is not above the law!”

Sullivan, Wray and Barr are trying tje same manuever, the “Costanza gambit”
i.e. get PDJT to fire Barr/Wray and take charge of DOJ, so they can impeach him for Abuse of Power, and Obstruction of Justice.

So, I am sure PDJT appreciates your advice (that he should fire Wray and Barr) but fortunately HE is the one behind the resolute desk.

Thing is,…current thinking is Obama admin is “throwing Jim under the bus”, but while arrogant, Jim is both sly and sneaky, and very much into self-preservation.

He HAS LOTS of incriminating info, memorialised in the “Comey memos”.
He already threw Loretta under the bus, when in his book he lefy bread trails,..leading to how Lorretta threatened the NYPD with a civil rights investigation on Gardner death, if they didn’t cough up the Weiner laptop, AND keep their mouth shut about it.

Point is, that was just a taste. Hes got memos, possibly recordings of his conversations with the principles,…count on it.

NUMEROUS copies, stashed in cornfields, Redwood forests, heck all SORTS of places. If he goes down, he ain’t going alone, thats for sure!

Thanks for the cool head. The main problem that we have is that the actual laws on the books right now are too weak to convict anyone. This will allow all these b***** to escape and they know it.

Our job is, when this is over, to push our congress to change the laws so this cannot happen again. It is hard work to do that. It is more productive though than some of the armchair gripping we tend to hear.

Not that I can see. Sullivans best hope was that they moved with glacial slowness, in reacting to Sidneys Mad-at-us writ.
There rapid responce, and ORDERING him to respond within 10 days, while INVITING DOJ to respond,….I thinkthey are going to slap this down pretty fast.

Granting Sidneys request maybe “extraordinary”, but so is this case.
So, I remain optimistic, as words don’t exist which could be strung together to give any legal justification to Sullivans actions.

The DC Circuit knows that sullivan has placed their Circuit, and the entire justice system, on public trial. They can scam and obfuscate with some legal mumbo jumbo, which people will recognize as such (to vote that he courts are corrupt and ‘guilty’) , or they can stop the bleeding from sullivan’s hateful bias, with simple, concise ‘justice’.
They Appellate Panel also needs to remand with instructions to sullivan to discipline the DOJ/FBI liars, extortioners, and withholders, to protect the integrity (cough cough) of the judicial system.

How long with RG be in position to release declassified documents? I’m concerned that Radcliffe won’t take the handoff and hit the hole aggressively. We have momentum. Gotta keep moving the chains. Not in the red zone just yet, but thanks to Grenell we’re within field goal range.

Agreed. I want Ratcliffe to get to the bottom of the changed whistleblower form, the participation of the ICIG and Schiff’s staff in crafting Ciaramella’s compliant before it was officially filed, and how Atkinson disregarded the DOJ’s opinion of his jurisdiction.

Please note the reference to ” president and certified by the attorney general, bypassing the need for a FISA warrant, pursuant to Chapter 36 of Title 50 of the U.S. Code)”. This fits nicely in with earlier discussions today regarding spying on Flynn, authorized by the former president

The existence of a transcript of a conversation between Flynn and Kislyak, in fact, indicates that Flynn was either the subject of a wiretap warrant authorized under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) of 1978, or a Title III action under the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 –

(or a specific action ordered by the president and certified by the attorney general, bypassing the need for a FISA warrant, pursuant to Chapter 36 of Title 50 of the U.S. Code), in which case Trump’s claims of his campaign being “tapped” by the Obama administration are not as far-fetched as some think.

When Obama ordered Clapper. In effect, Obama made a presidential order that should have gone through the AG at the time, Yates. They by-passed the AG and when directly to the FBI. Here is the Law. This seems to mean Obama broke the law. Because Obama knew he had to go through the AG.

(1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that

What are the rules in regard to a Presidential Order, if the order was made prior to Dec 29th initially. Is the president still required to go through the AG on Dec 29, if the first Presidential Order on Flynn was in July of 2016 for example?

From what you posted above, the order was in place and good for up to a year.

The FBI had the call the same day (Dec 29). Someone who dealt with the PDB nudged the FBI to look for it. As Bongino pointed out, there were no Flynn unmasking requests for 12/28-1/4. Not unmasked = never masked.

Land mines everywhere but the road is slowly leading to the WH thanks only to some dogged and fearless trekkers.
But where to from there? I don’t believe there’s any way P44 had, or has, the ability to mastermind this. Just no way. So who’s pulling all the strings? Who really is P44. That’ll be the biggest unmasking in history.

Thank you Bruce. obummer wasn’t even obummer. In my mind he was our queen. He entertained world leaders and gave the speeches that were written for him. He perfected the royal wave. After a while even he believed his was president but he has never run afoul of his handlers. I call Val Jar the director of operations. She did all the work but the plan and organization was done by others. I used to think that was just sora$$ but not anymore. Could be a committee.

“The IC doesn’t have all the transcripts/summaries…. it wasn’t our product.”

With all the parties calling for a release of the “complete” call records, it feels like somebody may get a nasty surprise. I hope it isn’t us. And that is not that I think maybe Flynn overstepped, but that I KNOW the definition of what was proper conduct on Flynn’s part is poorly understood by the public. The bad guys have called the call itself treasonous far and wide, and AFAIK, the good guys have not really addressed the subject. Most Americans don’t even know that it was entirely proper for Flynn to talk to the Russian Ambassador.

Maybe the new WH press spokesperson needs to assign some homework in THAT area! SHE seems to have things under control!

Most Americans that don’t know it is proper for General Flynn to be talking to Russian Ambassador, any Ambassador for that matter, are plain stupid and they need to either educate themselves or shut the f….. up.

Yesterday, somebody in the presidential thread posted the video of this new Devin Nunes podcast in which he interviews former Congressman Tom Rooney. Rooney served on HPSCI under Nunes and participated in the interviews from which the recently released transcripts came.

When Rooney started questioning Clapper about the Flynn phone call, Rooney – unprompted – threw this in and thereby gave an opening for the Logan Act. When Adam Schiff took over the time, the line of questioning was seamless.

MR. ROONEY: Well, and as you say, I mean not to editorialize here, but, you know, given our relationship with Russia over the.decades, I think that, as you testified and as you stated earlier, it’s certainly not something that, you know, General Flynn should have been doing, not being a member of the government.

I wish I may, I wish I might that @RichardGrenell finds a way to declass Strzok/Page texts, Flynn transcripts, Fusion GPS journalist pay list, proof of Russian hacking and Atkinson testimony by Monday night🙏

There is really no reason they should be ‘classified’ in the first place. They should be evidence in the Flynn case, and attached, unredacted, to the IG Horowitz report. It is not like Fusion, Steele, the Flynn-kislyak call, strozk-pientka interview of General Flynn, etc. are not public knowledge, as a result of the FBI/DOJ, CIA, Steele, Fusion and other leaks.

Ok, so maybe this is a silly question, but, the original phone call between Flynn and Kislyak was recorded by a 3rd party. Flynn was in the Dominican Republic at the time of the call, not sure where Kislyak was because, you would assume he is being recorded 24/7. So who was the 3rd party who did the recording? I’m just wondering what Grenell could do to get a hold of the original (obviously the Russians have a copy too).

“So who was the 3rd party who did the recording?” You asked so I thought I would toss out a suggestion that I have not heard as of yet. The 3rd party could be the FBI or any other interested party. The D.R. is not U.S. soil so no warrant is required and tapping a hotel’s phone lines is as easy peasy as using a stinger device to intercept cell phone data.

Interestingly enough- in the WaPo Feb. 14, 2017- an article about this says the NSA caught the conversation!! Here Flynn is describing how Kislyak managed to find Flynn (amazing how he did that) in the Dominican Republic…

“He got a hold of me,” Flynn said in the Post interview, “I was on vacation, actually, with my wife.”

The digital packets streaming between their phones were intercepted by the FBI, using capabilities provided by the National Security Agency, as part of its routine surveillance of Kislyak. An FBI agent prepared a brief intelligence report summing up the contents of the conversation, officials said.”

There is no unmasking request for Flynn from 12/28 until 1/5. on 12/29, “the PDB briefers” told the FBI to check their (FBI) holdings. This was a coordinated sting involving Obama’s White House and the FBI.

Brennan might have been tipped off by FVEYs and then tipped off the WH to tip off the FBI.

In Grenell’s top tweet above, he pretty much says that the transcript and summaries are not IC products.

NF following on from your theory it could be that Kislyak was part of the plot. Could have been coincidence he just happened to make the call when Gen Flynn was in DR, or he could have been aware of Gen Flynn’s travel plans.

Ya gotta love this guy Grenell! What you see is what you get! Spot on in every tweet. Laser focus. Gets results. Truly, a good guy doing good deeds for his fellow countrymen. Reminds me of someone else…

‘With all the parties calling for a release of the “complete” call records, it feels like somebody may get a nasty surprise. I hope it isn’t us.’

Rayvandune, I think that is why Rice called for all the transcripts to be released. Because she knows that the rest of IC community doesn’t have the specific one they used to screw Flynn with and thus cannot provide it. That inability to produce it will be spun as obstruction, proof that Orange Man Bad knows evil Mike Flynn is guilty and is withholding the smoking gun evidence of it.

The US Intercepts the call. They can’t use it. Brennan calls GHCQ and pulls a favor. He get them to send him the transcript on the side. ILLEGAL. He takes parts of the conversation and sends them to Peter Strzok, thinking they can use this and never reveal how they got it..

Strzok uses the ‘cuts’ to interview Flynn. They got nothing on Flynn. They end up having to get him on the fabricated lying charge. HOWEVER…..

Someone in the FBI leaked the cuts without talking with Brennan. This put Brennan in a HUGE bind. He used illegally obtained intelligence.

When Hannigan, the British GHCQ guy, found out, he knew his career was over. He resigned.

We have the Jan 3 2017 tech cut and Jan 5 2017 (by the book) meetings. Obama is said to have already known of the cut by the 5th. The allegation is someone had the raw cut on the 3rd, presented it to Obama, and WH legal had to step in on the 5th to CYA. Nowhere do we have a full legal transcript of the call.

Manipulating false evidence..it’s what the FBI does best. Grenell is about to show the everybody in the country just how they did it. Be careful what you wish for Susan Rice.
I expect we’ll be seeing many more false flags and other terrorists attacks on our shores as more and more truth comes out about their corruption/coup plot.

When a nickel chasing shyster law firm is involved with the CIA and broadcasting on billboards it’s time for doors to be kicked in followed by knees in the neck for Mark Zaid and friends then to the warehouse.

Is Grenell trying to tell us that the NSA doesn’t have the call? What on earth is that facility in Utah doing, then? I thought it had collected every email, call, etc. Like all of Hillary’s emails she “bleach bitted” and Wiener’s laptop, Awan’s laptop, etc. Hmmmm. I’m going to have to adjust my concern down a few notches I guess.

1). The NSA has the raw call audio
2). The British have the audio, the Italians, etc (five eyes). We are not the only ones tapping the Russian embassy.
3). The FBI used an alternate source (British network) to retrieve the audio (“technical”) so request wouldn’t be logged by NSA.

Thus the Intelligence Community (IC) does not have a record of the FBI requesting the NSA audio for a transcript.

4). The recording was “product of FBI”, as in it originated from FBI taps or requests, not CIA or NSA. Which is confusing for an international call not originating on US soil.
5). The raw audio was summarized, not word-for-word transcribed. I suppose we will find the summary was the only document used to entrap Flynn.
6). A summary would never hold up in court, which is why it could never be produced. A legal transcript will have to be sourced, which would expose FBI extra-legal activity going outside their network.

Which is why Rice is so confident in requesting a transcript, because she knows it doesn’t exist, and Comey will take the fall.

My assumption is that the full transcript does exist. However, Susan Rice — former US Ambassador to the UN — knows that the Russian ambassador’s words cannot be released unilaterally without causing an international incident.

Somehow I think there will be a show where nobody can find the call transcript, the FBI will think they are in the clear, and then either Grennel or Radcliff will suddenly tweet, “Oops, I found it. It was here in a drawer the whole time.”

As Sidney Powell has consistently maintained, it is the audio recording of the call that is critical, and not any transcript of that recording. It has been argued that the expulsion of Russian diplomats in December 2016 was deliberately initiated to prompt a call from Kislyak to Flynn. This possibility has been explored in some detail by Dan Bongino (see Episode 1251 of his show, “Obama did it”). If that’s so, then that is a lot of effort invested in making sure that such a communication would take place. Even allowing for the fact that there may have been difficulties with the actual transmission, given Flynn’s location at the time, it makes no sense that to suggest that the call would not have been recorded in its entirety.

That might be a point that Ric Grenell is having to work through. President Trump sought agreement from Zelensky before releasing the transcript of their telephone conversation. To be able to release the Russian side of the conversation probably would require negotiation. We may not want to put the Russians in a position of having negotiating power over the US, especially in such sensitive matter. If the full transcript is released without consultation, expect to pay a price.

It is unfortunate, but probably better to stick with Flynn’s words and make do with that.

If it was exclusive to FBI, why wasn’t it provided as Brady?
Where’s Van Grack?
Where’s Contreras?
Where’s original 302?

Flynn found guilty by a Judge who recused himself one week later?
Then Judge Sullivan was appointed, insisted on Brady and when Brady was proven not to be provided, the prosecutor is not held accountable.
Flynn’s original legal team was conflicted and should not have represented him. Appears prosecutors took advantage of this knowledge.
Both defendant and prosecution, learning if these Brady deficiencies and lack of materiality, dismissed the case.
The Judge in an unprecedented move, takes on prosecution role for a charge not alleged and appoints a biased ex-Judge to argue the case.
Now read these items over and tell me it’s not all a setup to protect those who surveilled American citizens illegally thru contractors of FBI under both Comey and Mueller (more conflicts).