President Obama won't necessarily need to dig out a birth certificate if he hopes to be on the Arizona ballot next year.

But he still may need to show state officials a menu of alternative documents.

Without debate, the Senate on Wednesday gave preliminary approval to legislation to make sure candidates for president are U.S. citizens, old enough to hold office and meet residency requirements. HB 2177 says those who cannot provide the proof cannot have their names on the ballot.

But Sen. Frank Antenori, R-Tucson, said the requirement in the House-passed version that candidates produce a "long-form birth certificate" is too restrictive. In fact, he noted, it's far more than even the federal government requires to get a passport - or a top-secret clearance.

His amendment provides a list of alternatives, including a baptismal or circumcision certificate, a hospital birth record, a postpartum medical record or even an early census record. Any two of these would be enough to establish eligibility.

And if none of those are available, the notarized affidavit of two or more people who actually witnessed the candidate's birth would suffice.

"There are a lot of people, I've come to find out, that don't have birth certificates," Antenori said. Sometimes, he said, the problem can be as simple as a fire having destroyed original records.

Antenori, who said he's had a top-secret clearance since he was 18 - first in the military working with nuclear weapons and now for his job at Raytheon - said that's the same list of acceptable forms of proving citizenship that was used by those who checked him out.

"If it's good enough for the federal government, it's good enough for Arizona," he said.

And Antenori is convinced Obama, whose actual long-form birth certificate has never been publicly released, will have no problems meeting the alternate qualifications.

Questions of the president's qualifications have been around for years and never been quieted, even after the release of a "certificate of live birth" issued by the state of Hawaii, testimony from that state's governor that he was present at Obama's birth and contemporary newspaper birth announcements.

The issue was stirred up again recently when Donald Trump, expressing interest in becoming a Republican candidate for president, said Obama should release his full birth certificate.

The original legislation was by Rep. Judy Burges, R-Skull Valley.

She has said the measure is not necessarily about Obama, though she admitted she doubts he was born in Hawaii as he says or that he can prove he is a U.S. citizen.

Antenori said Obama himself shares some of the blame by failing to come forward prior to the 2008 election with the documents, opening the door for theories maybe he wasn't born in the United States, and leading to a spate of bills in not only Arizona but several other states.

His amendment provides a list of alternatives, including a baptismal or circumcision certificate, a hospital birth record, a postpartum medical record or even an early census record. Any two of these would be enough to establish eligibility.

But Sen. Frank Antenori, R-Tucson, said the requirement in the House-passed version that candidates produce a "long-form birth certificate" is too restrictive.

Lord knows we wouldn't want to confirm someone meets the Constitutional requirement of being a natural born citizen.

His amendment provides a list of alternatives, including a baptismal or circumcision certificate, a hospital birth record, a postpartum medical record or even an early census record. Any two of these would be enough to establish eligibility.

Why not just require one document be produced with a long form birth certificate? None of these confirm natural born citizenship. This bill defeats the purpose of complying with the Constitution!

But Sen. Frank Antenori, R-Tucson, said the requirement in the House-passed version that candidates produce a "long-form birth certificate" is too restrictive. In fact, he noted, it's far more than even the federal government requires to get a passport - or a top-secret clearance.

His amendment provides a list of alternatives, including a baptismal or circumcision certificate, a hospital birth record, a postpartum medical record or even an early census record. Any two of these would be enough to establish eligibility.

And if none of those are available, the notarized affidavit of two or more people who actually witnessed the candidate's birth would suffice.

"There are a lot of people, I've come to find out, that don't have birth certificates," Antenori said. Sometimes, he said, the problem can be as simple as a fire having destroyed original records.

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I say this: Let the good state senator have his little amendment, and let us not give him a rough time if it means that an eligibility law will finally pass in a state legislature, because right now we have nothing and we desperately need any type of presidential eligibility law in Arizona---no matter how weak it seems to us---in order to get the eligibility law ball rolling in other states.

You see, somewhere down the road we can take another look at the good senator's amendment and do something about it, if we want to.

As I said, we are so desperate to get some type of eligibility law passed in any state's legislature that we should gladly and quickly accept the good senator's offer to add his amendment to the bill so it will pass, and we should not give the good senator a rough time because we don't like his amendment as is.

You see we get a compromise that is good for both sides: The good state senator feels good that his amendment is accepted and we certainly feel good that any type of eligibility law is finally passed in any state, which in this case, it would be the courageous state of Arizona.

We must not forget that we may have to compromise a great deal if we are to get that first state to take that giant step for Americans and finally pass a presidential eligibility law.

Another good point is this: If presidential candidates have to present some type of legal documents in Arizona to prove who they are, we will at least know that a document displayed and/or downloaded from their internet websites will not be accepted by the election officials in Arizona.

That is, candidates will have to present a legal document that Arizona election officials will be able to touch and examine up close and in person, and Arizona election officials may even be able to run their fingers over the raised official state seal, like the official raised state seal on Hawaii birth certificates.

And its no surprise that Arizona is bending over for Barry Soetoro, aka, Barrack Hussein Obama. These are the same morons that re-elected the man who put him into the White House to begin with: Juan McLame.

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posted on 04/08/2011 10:51:41 AM PDT
by Roninf5-1
(If ignorance is bliss why are so many Americans on anti-depressants?)

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