veale728:SkinnyHead: The House is doing its job. They're representing the people. They were elected by the same voters that elected Obama. If Obama expects to govern, he's got to put aside his arrogance and work with the People's House. (I don't know what your reference to rape is supposed to mean)

Infernalist:I've said this before in other threads and I'll gladly say it again here:

Obama destroyed the GOP in November, forcing the GOP into a cannibalistic loop where they're turning on each other. Then, a month later, he reams them raw on national TV over the fiscal deal, forcing their super-rich Masters to eat a considerable tax increase and say 'thank you' for it.

And not even a week ago, unloaded on them with 23 new Executive Orders that are perceived by a majority of Americans as even-handed, rational, logical and well-designed and all of them perceived by the GOP as being arrows aimed at the heart of the 2nd Amendment, forcing the GOP and their pants-shiatting adherents to freak out on a daily basis in front of the rest of America.

And we haven't even seen his second inauguration yet.

The GOP is in for a very very long and painful 4 years.

Biden/Warren 2016

He destroyed the GOP?I thought the GOP won the House. Again. Not a very good job of destroying

veale728:SkinnyHead: The House is doing its job. They're representing the people. They were elected by the same voters that elected Obama. If Obama expects to govern, he's got to put aside his arrogance and work with the People's House. (I don't know what your reference to rape is supposed to mean)

tenpoundsofcheese:Infernalist: I've said this before in other threads and I'll gladly say it again here:

Obama destroyed the GOP in November, forcing the GOP into a cannibalistic loop where they're turning on each other. Then, a month later, he reams them raw on national TV over the fiscal deal, forcing their super-rich Masters to eat a considerable tax increase and say 'thank you' for it.

And not even a week ago, unloaded on them with 23 new Executive Orders that are perceived by a majority of Americans as even-handed, rational, logical and well-designed and all of them perceived by the GOP as being arrows aimed at the heart of the 2nd Amendment, forcing the GOP and their pants-shiatting adherents to freak out on a daily basis in front of the rest of America.

And we haven't even seen his second inauguration yet.

The GOP is in for a very very long and painful 4 years.

Biden/Warren 2016

He destroyed the GOP?I thought the GOP won the House. Again. Not a very good job of destroying

SkinnyHead:The article says that there is more optimism than pessimism about Obama's 2nd term. But the poll numbers don't support that. A majority expect things to stay the same or get worse. Seeing as how people are more miserable now than when Obama took office, if you think things are going to stay the same, that's not being very optimistic.

cc_rider:veale728: SkinnyHead: The House is doing its job. They're representing the people. They were elected by the same voters that elected Obama. If Obama expects to govern, he's got to put aside his arrogance and work with the People's House. (I don't know what your reference to rape is supposed to mean)

Have you been living under a bridge the last couple years?

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Skinnyhead fascinates me. The House represents the people. Obama elected, by the nation's people, doesn't appear to represent anyone but himself. If he isn't trolling, and is for real, I wonder what color the sky is in his world.

Says the guy that admitted on national TV (Letterman) that he can't do 7th grade math:

"Yes, that includes me. We just know more stuff than those Tea Party ding dongs. Like gender studies. Like cultural antecedents of contemporary meta-fiction. I don't think half of those red state clowns made it through grade school."- Barky Obama on Oprah, regarding Ivy Leaguers thinking they're better than everyone else.

As a center right former Republican, I expect Obama to be socially moderate and fiscally conservative, like he was all of his first four years. I am actually against most liberal economic policies, aside from making good on existing entitlements by providing a safety net for individuals (not corporations) and doing what he can to level the playing field. I expect him to do about 20% on that, due to obstructionism and hate from the right.

I would have expected Romney to do -1000% of whats important to me. I guess that makes me a fanboy...

Says the guy that admitted on national TV (Letterman) that he can't do 7th grade math:

"Yes, that includes me. We just know more stuff than those Tea Party ding dongs. Like gender studies. Like cultural antecedents of contemporary meta-fiction. I don't think half of those red state clowns made it through grade school."- Barky Obama on Oprah, regarding Ivy Leaguers thinking they're better than everyone else.

Mmmmmmmmy ass.

You probably believe that Tommy Hilfiger admitted he was part of the Church of Satan on Oprah, too, don't you.

Lionel Mandrake:SkinnyHead: The article says that there is more optimism than pessimism about Obama's 2nd term. But the poll numbers don't support that. A majority expect things to stay the same or get worse. Seeing as how people are more miserable now than when Obama took office, if you think things are going to stay the same, that's not being very optimistic.

SkinnyHead:The article says that there is more optimism than pessimism about Obama's 2nd term. But the poll numbers don't support that. A majority expect things to stay the same or get worse. Seeing as how people are more miserable now than when Obama took office, if you think things are going to stay the same, that's not being very optimistic.

Thank you for those deep thoughts. However, just because you want to believe them does not make them factual.

Ayn Rand's Social Worker:As a center right former Republican, I expect Obama to be socially moderate and fiscally conservative, like he was all of his first four years. I am actually against most liberal economic policies, aside from making good on existing entitlements by providing a safety net for individuals (not corporations) and doing what he can to level the playing field. I expect him to do about 20% on that, due to obstructionism and hate from the right.

I would have expected Romney to do -1000% of whats important to me. I guess that makes me a fanboy...

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Ayn Rand's Social Worker:As a center right former Republican, I expect Obama to be socially moderate and fiscally conservative, like he was all of his first four years. I am actually against most liberal economic policies, aside from making good on existing entitlements by providing a safety net for individuals (not corporations) and doing what he can to level the playing field. I expect him to do about 20% on that, due to obstructionism and hate from the right.

I would have expected Romney to do -1000% of whats important to me. I guess that makes me a fanboy...

The instant you decided you disagreed with any aspect of the Republican platform at any level, for any reason, you ceased to be an American in their eyes.

djkutch:cc_rider: veale728: SkinnyHead: The House is doing its job. They're representing the people. They were elected by the same voters that elected Obama. If Obama expects to govern, he's got to put aside his arrogance and work with the People's House. (I don't know what your reference to rape is supposed to mean)

Have you been living under a bridge the last couple years?

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Skinnyhead fascinates me. The House represents the people. Obama elected, by the nation's people, doesn't appear to represent anyone but himself. If he isn't trolling, and is for real, I wonder what color the sky is in his world.

Uranus Is Huge!:Did subby mean 'plurality of Americans' when he said 'Obama's fanboys'?

'Fanboi' means anyone terrified of the malicious, lying sycophants to the rich that's become of the GOP, mistaking repulsed by Option R for uncritical acceptance of Option D. Obama is only great in the context of this political arena by not being a blatant sociopath.

FriarReb98:Historically speaking, 2nd terms are usually not things that end well. If you ignore the GOP butthurt for a minute, and look in a history book, it's kind of a running theme.

This is Fark, and Obama is a Democrat, so if you say anything except the next 4 years are going to be all rainbows and unicorns (and anything else is because of the GOP), expect to get met with "BOTH SIDES ARE BAD SO VOTE REPUBLICAN!" by some brainless partisan hack.

machoprogrammer:FriarReb98: Historically speaking, 2nd terms are usually not things that end well. If you ignore the GOP butthurt for a minute, and look in a history book, it's kind of a running theme.

This is Fark, and Obama is a Democrat, so if you say anything except the next 4 years are going to be all rainbows and unicorns (and anything else is because of the GOP), expect to get met with "BOTH SIDES ARE BAD SO VOTE REPUBLICAN!" by some brainless partisan hack.

Because acknowledging 4 years of a sane Presidency dogged by childish right-wing bullshiat constitutes fanboy propaganda. and you're playing the victim card.

born_yesterday:I think the competent leadership shown by Ryan in Congress and the stories of how fairly Romney ran his campaign and treated his staffers clearly shows the mistake we made in the last election.

[warning: csb ahead]

I was reading the paper today while eating breakfast at the coffee shop. I came across the opinions. There was a guy that sent something in talking about how it was "perplexing" to him that Obama won reelection, especially considering a poll that he saw which concluded that the majority of Americans think the country is on the wrong path. Then he went on to say something about how maybe people are in the dark because they don't have cable and therefore have no access to FOX news. I had a couple people looking at me funny while I sat there barely able to control my maniacal laugh.

I thought it was great that he made the assumptions:1) people would be more enlightened if they increased their FOX intake2) people that don't watch FOX would be persuaded if they watched it3) people that don't have cable don't have access to FOX, because apparently the internet hasn't been invented yet4) Just because people think the country is on the wrong track they would pin it all on Obama5) People would forget that we weren't exactly on the best path as of January 2009 when Obama was sworn in6) These people that are unhappy would think that Romney would put the country on the track they wanted us to be on6) That his idiotic opinion would do anything but serve as comedic fodder for people that aren't goddamn morons

LordJiro:Lionel Mandrake: SkinnyHead: Lionel Mandrake: Imagine how miserable people would be with a Republican in office.

Remember the GW Bush years? They call those the good old days.

Who's "they?"

Arms contractors?

Complete, blithering morons?

Well, it's at either end of the scale.

Both brilliantly devious money-grubbers and Jesus-obsessed xenophobes who claim to always carry around a copy of the Constitution in their back pocket while making it clear that they don't read the thing.

whidbey:Because acknowledging 4 years of a sane Presidency dogged by childish right-wing bullshiat constitutes fanboy propaganda. and you're playing the victim card.

Who said I was a right-winger? He is right, historically 8-year presidencies haven't ended well. At least, the last two didn't (Clinton - stock market crash in spring of 2000 and Bush, well, that is obvious)

jayhawk88:I would take President Obama spending every day for the next four years waking up at noon, playing Call of Duty for 6 hours, then downing a Stuffed Crust and 12 pack of Natty Light and watching Adult Swim until 2am, then Mitt Romney on his best day.

Shae123:jayhawk88: I would take President Obama spending every day for the next four years waking up at noon, playing Call of Duty for 6 hours, then downing a Stuffed Crust and 12 pack of Natty Light and watching Adult Swim until 2am, then Mitt Romney on his best day.

machoprogrammer:Shae123: jayhawk88: I would take President Obama spending every day for the next four years waking up at noon, playing Call of Duty for 6 hours, then downing a Stuffed Crust and 12 pack of Natty Light and watching Adult Swim until 2am, then Mitt Romney on his best day.

/In other words, Biden '16

Please let Biden run in 2016......Christie wins going away.

All that his opponent would have to do is to say that Joe wanted to ban encryption on the internet and it'd be hard to see him winning

But considering he will be 74 then (remember the "MCCAIN IS OLD!" garbl back in 2008? He was 72), I doubt he will run anyway

Most voting people don't understand how encryption works much less care about it or filesharing or any of that stuff. I doubt this would be a deal breaker for anyone except the RON PAUL Reddit Brigade (the RPRB if I may).

/I'm against him on that particular position but I'd still vote for him over Christie (well any Republican except Eisenhower and he's dead so easy choice there)

Doktor_Zhivago:Most voting people don't understand how encryption works much less care about it or filesharing or any of that stuff. I doubt this would be a deal breaker for anyone except the RON PAUL Reddit Brigade (the RPRB if I may).

/I'm against him on that particular position but I'd still vote for him over Christie (well any Republican except Eisenhower and he's dead so easy choice there)

I think all you'd have to do is say that all internet transactions would be like putting your credit card number as your Facebook status (I know it's not really that bad, but it'd be bad).

machoprogrammer:whidbey: Because acknowledging 4 years of a sane Presidency dogged by childish right-wing bullshiat constitutes fanboy propaganda. and you're playing the victim card.

Who said I was a right-winger? He is right, historically 8-year presidencies haven't ended well. At least, the last two didn't (Clinton - stock market crash in spring of 2000 and Bush, well, that is obvious)

I didn't say you were.

It does bug me just a bit when people try to equate the social progress the Democrats are attempting to make with the failed ideology of the other major political opposition in this country.

Lionel Mandrake:SkinnyHead: The article says that there is more optimism than pessimism about Obama's 2nd term. But the poll numbers don't support that. A majority expect things to stay the same or get worse. Seeing as how people are more miserable now than when Obama took office, if you think things are going to stay the same, that's not being very optimistic.

Mrtraveler01:SkinnyHead: Blue_Blazer: Maybe the House should do their farking jobs instead of talking about rape and the pill. Obama can only do so much. Or perhaps you think he should just disband the worthless House. I agree with you. Good idea.

The House is doing its job. They're representing the people. They were elected by the same voters that elected Obama. If Obama expects to govern, he's got to put aside his arrogance and work with the People's House. (I don't know what your reference to rape is supposed to mean)

The Senate is not doing its job. Senate democrats won't even pass a budget.

If it was really the People's House, then it would be majority Democrat (since more people voted for Democrat Representatives than Republican Representatives).

The only reason the GOP still has its majority is because it has the upperhand when it comes to Gerrymandering.

Ummm. This isn't a democracy. Perhaps you should go back to middle school civics class.

SkinnyHead:Blue_Blazer: Maybe the House should do their farking jobs instead of talking about rape and the pill. Obama can only do so much. Or perhaps you think he should just disband the worthless House. I agree with you. Good idea.

The House is doing its job. They're representing the people. They were elected by the same voters that elected Obama. If Obama expects to govern, he's got to put aside his arrogance and work with the People's House. (I don't know what your reference to rape is supposed to mean)

The Senate is not doing its job. Senate democrats won't even pass a budget.

"To be clear, no one has ever walked away from one of these spirited comment debates on superior races, or domestic battery, or whether mass shootings happen because God is mad at us for being nice to gays, and thought, "Boy, the things Slipperydick311 said really opened my eyes. Time to get my life back on track." In fact, there's a good chance that whoever you argue with online is genuinely crazy. Just because someone has fingers and a keyboard doesn't mean he or she is a normal, functioning human being. If you saw a crazy homeless person in the middle of the street shouting that the Holocaust was a myth, you wouldn't engage that person in a discussion about why he's mistaken. You would just keep walking, because you don't know that man, he's not convincing anyone, and, I can't stress this enough, he's crazy."