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To all you anti-abortionists trolling this post, let me share with you a story.

I had to terminate a very wanted pregnancy due to the baby not developing anymore. As confirmed by 3 doctors in my fertility clinic. Abortion is legal where I live. However, the doctor at the hospital where I was sent to shamed me and blamed me for wanting to kill my baby. That's right. I wanted to kill the "baby" that 3 other doctors told me wasn't growing at all anymore. I ran the fuck out of there in tears. The next day my regular doctor raised hell and apparently the physician I saw PUT THE SAME DIAGNOSIS AS THE OTHER 3 IN MY FILE. Baby=dead. They were just being a cunt.

On the day of the abortion there were 3 other people getting similar procedures: a very young teen, a refugee without a job but starting a PhD in 4 months and a lady carrying twins one of which died. I know a lady whose very, very wanted unborn baby had anencephaly (literally no brain) and she was denied termination in Texas.

All of us had valid reasons to abort. None of us wanted to do it. I got traumatized for life by my experience. Thank you for making that possible.

To add onto this, I had a really messed up experience during my time as a naive Catholic high schooler where I was forced to go pray/sing outside of an abortion clinic by an insane theology teacher. This is a long story and mentions sexual assault, just a warning.

This woman was hired to teach world religions but somehow couldn’t do her own job. I was on this lady’s shit list because she kept saying homophobic crap and my sister was dating a woman at the time and I was enraged. I kept fighting with her during class whenever she said something homophobic so she hated me.

It began to be a huge issue. She kept lowering my grade and giving me poor scores on my papers because she disagreed with my beliefs.
I was on the verge of failing the easiest class in school because I kept fighting with her. I had A’s in every other course.

The end of the year was coming and I needed extra credit to pass. She said the only extra credit she would offer is for me to go with her and a bunch of students to pray outside an abortion clinic.

I was 15 years old and hadn’t really formed an opinion on abortion. My Catholic school told me it was wrong but I was at the age where I was realizing a lot of things I had been taught weren’t what I believed (like the blatant homophobia).

Nonetheless, I didn’t want to have to retake the class so I went to the abortion clinic with a friend. There were a bunch of middle aged white ladies crying and singing horrible hymns and chanting prayers, holding signs.

An old lady came up to my friend and I and put a tiny baby figurine the size of a tic tac box into my hand. She told me this was a fetus at 6 weeks and kept describing how it was already a perfectly fully formed baby but smaller. I knew right then and there that this lady was wrong. Fetuses don’t look like exact fully formed miniature versions of full term babies! I called her out and my teacher chastised me.

So I stood there, hating myself, in silence, staring at the abortion clinic across the street.

An hour passed and a woman got out of her car with a girl who couldn’t have been older than 11 or 12.

One of the protesting women started shouting at her, trying to approach the property, saying that she couldn’t believe this woman was bringing her daughter in with her while she killed her sibling.

The woman sent the girl into the building then tore into the protester like nothing I’ve ever seen before. She full on ripped her a new one as she said that she wasn’t the one receiving an abortion, but her daughter was because she had been raped by her own mentally disturbed brother.

This woman was already so incredibly distraught, having to deal with her son raping her daughter, her daughter getting pregnant, sending her own son to jail, etc. She probably felt such tremendous guilt to be in this situation in the first place. She was hysterically crying as she shouted. I thought she was going to physically assault the protesting woman, who was now just standing there, unsure what to do besides saying “God will provide”.

The lady justifiably flipped even more, stating that she would not put her child through an unwanted pregnancy that would cause even more trauma after the trauma of rape and might even kill her because she was so small. Then she added that even if the baby was born, it would be the result of incest and have so many issues. She also said she couldn’t afford to raise a likely disabled child nor would she want her daughter to have to see a reminder of her rape every day.

The protester woman didn’t have anything to say besides “you could put it up for adoption” and the woman said something along the lines of “oh are you going to adopt this baby? No? Didn’t think so. Are you going to be the one holding a literal child’s hand as she births another child? No? Shut the fuck up.” And went back inside the clinic.

I can remember just turning to my teacher and saying I was leaving and I didn’t care about the extra credit and that I felt I should notify the school board.

My grade miraculously raised to a B and I’ve been a strict advocate for women’s rights ever since, essentially doing the opposite of what my teacher wanted to accomplish.

It’s the non-development ones I think anti abortionists don’t even know about (because sex ed is nonexistent and they don’t think about things they don’t think about).

Ectopic pregnancies are another similar. The fetus is still growing but will not for long and kill them both. Thankfully she was able to be treated but people who want these blanket bans are bad enough. Those people vote. They put their own shitty kind in power.

Rant had taken an important tangent. Vote local. Press your local politicians to talk about abortions. If you think you live in a progressive city until you find it’s impossible to get treated within 200 miles, that’s no accident. Vote in people who will support women in need.

This is why when people ask me what time limit I support for abortions I say none. I support no limitations on it because we are applying some misguided feelings on a medical situation. I don't have the hubris to have a set term where it's acceptable or not.

To add to your position, I just don't think it's something a stranger should have input on. A medical decision is between the patient and their doctor, if a doctor is willing to perform the procedure then why should I, a complete stranger, tell that patient they're not permitted? That's wild to me.

i’m so sorry you had to go through all of that. that doctor was also an asshole. it’s sad how people treat others when going through a difficult time. i saw on facebook where ohio is trying to pass the “heartbeat” bill and there were so many comments calling girls whores and using abortions as a birth control method and some even suggested girls do it on purpose. i can’t believe someone would suggest people get pregnant on purpose just to have abortions. it’s all very heartless and people need to realize it isn’t always black and white. i wish there was more education on abortion instead of making it out to be some evil, barbaric act.

When the fetus has been determined as inviable, or the baby is no longer alive, there is no longer an argument about "murdering children." Forcing a woman to deliver a deceased baby is so beyond fucked up.

Why does someone expressing a legitimate disagreement with abortion have to be characterised as a troll? It might make it easier to dismiss their opinion but you could try to actually contend with it rationally instead.

Speaking for myself, it’s because abortion is an issue I feel strongly about and I find it unsettling that abortion has become a right in many women’s eyes. I feel like it should be worthwhile to consider a contrary position if you feel so strongly about what you believe.

Being a troll has nothing to do with being emotional, it’s about being purposefully provocative to elicit a response. Calling someone a troll before even considering their argument is very uncharitable.

What the fuck is wrong with these people posting? Are you all offering up to pay for the birth and then adopt a stillborn? I mean, that pretty much what you are offering if you think you have any say at all in these situations.

I'm a dude, and I just can't see how anyone but the person who is pregnant has any say in what is going to happen to her body.

“The thing is not a human being”, this is disturbed. A fetus is obviously a human being, just at an earlier developmental stage - to suggest otherwise would be dumb.

A human baby is not a parasite because parasites typically are not the same species as the host organism. It’s also debatable to say “at the hosts expense” - a woman’s body is biologically engineered to facilitate the growth of a fetus. The placenta which feeds and protects the fetus is made by cells from the mother’s uterine lining. The placenta also regulates nutrient flow between the mother and fetus to protect the health of the mother - no parasitical relationship exists like this.

No, it's a fetus. Until it's born, it does not have more rights than the carrier. An egg is not a chicken, an egg is an egg. It is a chicken at a less developed state, of course, but is still not a chicken.

That's the definition, nowhere does it say that the parasite must be a different species than the host.

A fetus is a human being. Be in denial about it if it makes it easier for you. And I wasn’t arguing a fetus should have more rights than the mother, just one right - the right to life.

You’re purposefully being reductionist about what the word entails and you didn’t respond to anything I said. You’re also not using the word because it’s an accurate descriptor, you’re using it to inspire disgust and revulsion for human babies.

No it’s not and I’ve explained why. It’s not that we didn’t budge on our beliefs, it’s that I made a detailed argument and you had nothing to say about it. If you had a convincing response you would have typed it, but you didn’t - so you didn’t.

Ask any medical professional and they would call a fetus a human being. And before being so flippant about the value of a fetus’ life, you should remember that you were one at some point in time. You were lucky enough not to be aborted.

Legally, depending on the jurisdiction, the fetus may have no rights. In Canada, for example, you aren’t covered by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms until you have been born alive. This is because a woman’s right to her own body is held as far more important than a cluster of cells that isn’t necessarily even conscious. We don’t take organs from dead people unless they’ve consented or their family consents, we shouldn’t expect women to give up their own autonomy when they’re still alive. Giving a fetus the right to life automatically gives it more rights than the mother because it deprives her of the right to her own body, and that becomes a very slippery slope because if the fetus has the inalienable right to life, then it could be argued that women need to avoid all activity that might cause a miscarriage. Because women have bodily autonomy, fetuses should not be afforded rights that could infringe on that.

Also rights are a political construct. If the government doesn’t give a fetus the right to life, it doesn’t have a right to life.

“If the government doesn’t give a fetus the right to life, it doesn’t have a right to life.” In practice you’re right, but I’m not really arguing about what the current legal precedence is - I’m arguing for what I believe to be moral. If the government told me that Jewish people didn’t have a right to life, I wouldn’t blindly follow it. Although there are similarities in how the dehumanisation of Jews in WW2 and the dehumanisation of unborn babies have both produced mass loss of life.

“It could be argued that women need to avoid all activity that might cause a miscarriage.” I don’t see this as a bad thing. Why would you want to unnecessarily cause the loss of a person? We already advise mothers not to smoke and drink to excess - so as to not create any adverse effects or addictions for the baby. Would you not say that it would be immoral for a mother to get her baby addicted to nicotine? Or is that her freedom as granted to her by her right to bodily autonomy?

Draw the line where you think it’s okay to call a fetus a baby. The only reason you don’t like the word baby is because the word has more emotional baggage, making it harder to dehumanise an unborn baby.

Dude awesome! I’ve been wanting to start a non-profit that facilitates access to abortion for women in illegal states, or who have other barriers. This thread is a treasure for me. I’m gonna see if I can get involved.

You don’t even have to be anti abortion to realize how dumb it is to expect someone to care for a child just because they don’t want to baby to be killed. Sure we can disagree whether abortions should be legal or not but you don’t get to just offload your responsibility onto others just because.

You are forcing someone to take care of a child. If someone has a child and they take it to term then expect someone to help them.. Yeah you have a point.

If you can't take care of a child and you know it then the responsible thing to do is to have an abortion. You can also put the child up for adoption if the family adopting can pay for the medical costs.

But forcing a mother to have a child because she had sex is silly.

The reason pro choice people mock pro life for caring only that a child is brought to term is because a lot of deep red states have terrible infant mortality rates.

If they really cared about the lives of babies it would behoove them to switch their battle to medical care......

Sure there may be people who see child bearing as a punishment for sex but I highly doubt that it’s any significant number of people for that reason primarily. Maybe it’s because people have a difference of opinion on life. Just because anyone thinks that life is valuable in the sense that it shouldn’t be taken “without cause,” doesn’t mean that people want a woman (or men) to be punished for having sex but that we as a people take the situation much more seriously with respect to the life of the child. And of course anyone going through an abortion or any situation like this is taking it seriously, but it can be considered quite harmful to the conversation when people inaccurately try to paint the picture. About your medical thing, again, children should not be born into situations where they cannot be cared for, but is offing the children the right solution? Additionally, it could be said that people might be much inclined to provide assistance such as medical care to those in need if it wasn’t such an open ended dilemma. Sure helping others should be a easy answer but you hit a point where people start to wonder when one side is doing too much or too little.

The point is logically if you care about the life and it's so important than you shouldn't be focused do heavily on just the fetus. The focus on just that aspect of life is incredibly weird and speaks to other motives.

A judge slapped down an abortion law recently and mentioned this line of thought.

If you're going to deny abortions on moral grounds then yes IMO you should help pony up the cost to raise the child.

But it's not that important apparently. Odd huh that this fervor only exists when the hard part doesn't impact them?

Hey I just want to say I really appreciate the open discussion about this. I know we may disagree or not see things eye to eye but I respect your ability and willingness to talk through this. But anyways..

Just because someone believes an unborn fetus is a life doesn’t transfer responsibility from the parents to the one who’s saying don’t murder the kid. Apply this to any situation post birth and it’s quite clear to see. I don’t think this necessarily implies other motives, if it does, I genuinely ask you to help me understand my own possible underlying motives.

Weird. A fetus can’t form thoughts or opinions without a brain or body (beyond that of a sea monkey), now can it? A brain and thoughts which I do have and a formed body which also have. No piece of tissue the size of my pinky nail can rationally trump my right to autonomy. Your ridiculous argument and perspective is literally less intelligent than I’d expect from the fetus in question.

If I knew I would be born into a world where people try to make a point as stupid as this one is, I’d want to be aborted ASAP. Case closed!

This comment is very petty. It’s obvious that a baby can’t form thoughts or opinions either but we’re not allowed to kill them. You should consider a solid counter argument instead of just completely dismissing it because it makes you uncomfortable.

A baby that has been born also cannot understand a thing like mortality. That doesn't mean we can or we should kill them. The problem with "my body, my choice" is that it isn't even your body. It's your child's body.

You should read “A Defense of Abortion”, it’s a pretty good read and makes some valid points. Here is one part from it -

You wake up in the morning and find yourself back to back in bed with an unconscious violinist. A famous unconscious violinist. He has been found to have a fatal kidney ailment, and the Society of Music Lovers has canvassed all the available medical records and found that you alone have the right blood type to help. They have therefore kidnapped you, and last night the violinist's circulatory system was plugged into yours, so that your kidneys can be used to extract poisons from his blood as well as your own. [If he is unplugged from you now, he will die; but] in nine months he will have recovered from his ailment, and can safely be unplugged from you.

Thomson says that you can now permissibly unplug yourself from the violinist even though this will cause his death: this is due to limits on the right to life, which does not include the right to use another person's body, and so by unplugging the violinist you do not violate his right to life but merely deprive him of something—the use of your body—to which he has no right. "[I]f you do allow him to go on using your kidneys, this is a kindness on your part, and not something he can claim from you as his due."

For the same reason, Thomson says, abortion does not violate the fetus's legitimate right to life, but merely deprives the fetus of something—the non-consensual use of the pregnant woman's body and life-support functions—to which it has no right. Thus, by choosing to terminate her pregnancy, Thomson concludes that a pregnant woman does not normally violate the fetus's right to life, but merely withdraws its use of her own body, which usually causes the fetus to die.

This situation described requires quite a suspension of disbelief. Also, being apparently immobilised in a bed is not quite what a pregnancy does to you. However, this is still different, because unless it was a case of rape, which makes up less than 1% of abortions in the United States, you consented to have sex with this you accepted the responsibility of a child if you were to become pregnant.

I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here. There isn't much choice to be made if you're dead. Unless you're trying to say that an unborn baby isn't a person because they can't survive outside of their mother's body. But if that's the case, babies who are already born are dependant on their parents to feed them. Does that mean we can kill them?

Thank you for sharing these life saving resources! And for the trolls your not actually concerned with clutches pearls the children. Your concerned with control. Abortion will never go away and has been practiced for basically all of civilization. If you would like to reduce the need for it push for a total overhaul of sex education, free birth control, free condoms, educating our youth about consent and abuse, and supporting new parents with better post baby leave options. Until you do that your just an asshole who can’t mind their own genitals 💁🏽‍♀️

Genuine question. Not an anti-abortionist here, my curiousity is making me ask.

Are there legal risks to this? This seems a lot like circumventing the law if you're getting the pills from out of state even with a particular state's stance on abortion? Or.. no? Merely confused, that's all. ^^;

This really worries me. While I’m pro abortions, I don’t like how easy it would be to get these. Could it not become a problem with assholes sneaking these to someone because they want an abortion and their girlfriend doesn’t? IMO this should require proof that you’re pregnant to purchase to avoid any problems it could cause.

How come, people who believe abortion is okay, seem to not understand how pro-choice people feel? I’m not taking a side, it just seems like the general thing is “you’re an idiot if you don’t feel the same as me”. But can’t you see how some people can see it as literally murder - murder of a baby? Can’t you empathise with that at least?

I empathize, but realize the context of the two are completely different. This isn't akin to murdering a person minding their own business in a park. In extreme cases it's basically killing someone in self-defense before they kill you.

Thanks for your respectful reply. Your response makes sense, but I’m also glad you can empathise and realise that not everyone sees things the same as you. But I do understand where you’re coming from.

Because the majority of states where abortion is tightly regulated have high infant mortality rates, so if those state governments really cared about “preserving human life” then they would pump some money into the medical system, but they in fact do the opposite.

Also, why can’t the pro-life people empathise with the women whose fetuses are non-viable and yet they are denied abortion even though the child will never live regardless.

I understand what you're saying and to people who feel that way I say this: I can understand that you believe that's a baby. However, anti-abortion laws have never actually reduced abortion rates and only result in women desperately seeking unsafe options. So by taking the pro-life stance of making abortion unaccessible, not only are you not preventing loss of life, you're also risking the life of the pregnant woman. If you are pro-life and care about preserving life, your position needs to be access to both free, accessible, and easy to use birth control as well as abortions. If you really are pro-life then you also have to be pro-choice.

It’s not high as the medieval times no, but there are so many health conditions that follow up to it, plus being restricted to many diets and activities during pregnancy. But that’s besides the point. Childbirth isn’t easy like you just pop out a baby. It’s also emotionally, mentally and physically draining, but I’m sure your dense mind couldn’t understand and never will.

I mean if you were a female, you wouldn't be talking about giving birth so lightly. You're basically suffering for 9 months if you're having an unwanted pregnancy, and even risking your life / the child's life to give a safe birth, only to put them in an orphanage?

OK, different example: Imagine someone is hemorrhaging and I am a match for their blood type. Donating my blood would save their life. I can chose to NOT donate blood, the person dies and I face no repercussions whatsoever, because I have bodily autonomy. Same thing for bone marrow donations. However, sacrificing my body for 9 months is a must.

The only reason pregnancy is different is because men do not get pregnant.

All of these actions are incredibly selfish and immoral. If only one donor can be found for a body part, without which the recipient will die, that donor should be required to sacrifice their body to save another's life.

I agree, but only one of these actions is illegal. You should either be required to donate (unless you can't for legitimate reasons) or termination should be legal. Again, the difference is in who can get pregnant.

I mean if you were a female, you wouldn't be talking about giving birth so lightly

I mean if you were an unborn baby, you wouldn't be talking about being killed so lightly.

You're basically suffering for 9 months if you're having an unwanted pregnancy

Although I've never been pregnant, "suffering for 9 months" sounds a tad hyperbolic to me. However, in the vast majority of cases, the woman consents to sex, which means they implicitly consent to becoming pregnant. Therefore, the pregnancy being unwanted changes nothing. Rape is a different issue, but that's only exceptional cases and shouldn't change how we deal with the only 99% of abortions.

even risking your life / the child's life to give a safe birth, only to put them in an orphanage?

I don't know why the child's life is all of a sudden an issue, since you seem to advocate killing that same child. Despite this, I would imagine that in this day and age, death in childbirth is incredibly rare and not significantly higher than the probability of serious injury as a result of abortion.

I mean if you were an unborn baby, you wouldn't be talking about being killed so lightly.

If you were an unborn baby, you wouldn't be able to talk in the first place because your mind hasn't developed to think for yourself yet. It's just a small seed inside the woman's body waiting to develop overtime.

majority of cases, the woman consents to sex, which means they implicitly consent to becoming pregnant

So if men consent to sex as well, are they consenting to making babies? Have you thought maybe sex is just an action between two lovers or friends that are meant for fun and to bond with one another.

And women who take birth control and use condoms aren't consenting to making babies. They just want to participate and enjoy the act of sex without making babies. And sure, accidents happen, contraceptions may fail at times, hence why Plan B and abortions exist, to prevent what they don't want.

Why is rape exceptional but not unwanted pregnancies? Because in rape, one party didn't have the choice to have sex? In both cases, the women do not want the baby, and just because women want to participate in sex, she should not be punished by must keeping the baby because it's her choice and her body.

death in childbirth is incredibly rare and not significantly higher than the probability of serious injury as a result of abortion

The child's life isn't 'suddenly' an issue when we mention getting rid of the baby by choosing to take Plan B or abort the child because they are unable to provide them a good life (financially or emotionally). That's same as ruining the child's life, giving them a miserable time. Orphanages and foster homes don't guarantee happiness for the child as well.

Death in childbirth isn't rare, and the child may be born in critical conditions, and there are way more many incidents of miscarriages too. And I'm sure the process of childbirth causes way more injuries and strains to the woman's bodies than the process of abortions itself.

So if men consent to sex as well, are they consenting to making babies

Yes. I believe that it is the father's duty to care for his son, unless he and the mother agree to give the child to a place where it will be safe and have it's needs met.

Have you thought maybe sex is just an action between two lovers or friends that are meant for fun and to bond with one another

You should not have sex, if you are not prepared to have a child. Due to widespread use of contraceptives, sex has become partially disconnected from children in recent years, however all contraceptives fail from time to time and it is your responsibility not to have sex if you cannot care for a child if one were to be created in the action.

hence why Plan B and abortions exist, to prevent what they don't want.

That child you don't want is a person. They have the potential to live a full life, enjoy themselves here and there and maybe even have their own kids. But they are inconvenient for the mother and, therefore, must be killed.

In both cases, the women do not want the baby, and just because women want to participate in sex, she should not be punished by must keeping the baby because it's her choice and her body.

A pregnancy is the natural result of sex. A woman who has consensual sex must take responsibility for her child if she becomes pregnant. She cannot simply kill it, this is immoral. It's not her choice, because it's not her body. Yes, pregnancy is inconvenient for the mother, but she isn't the one being killed.

abort the child because they are unable to provide them a good life

You can't kill a child, because you don't think it will have a good life. Do you think the child really would want to be killed, just because they are an inconvenience to their broke mother and they wouldn't have a "happy" life? We ought to give the child whatever chance at life we can. Even a miserable life is probably better than being killed before birth.

the child may be born in critical conditions, and there are way more many incidents of miscarriages too

Than what? Than an abortion? Why is it a concern of yours that the child is miscarried, when you seem so adamant that a woman should be able kill that same child, a little earlier?

I would imagine that in this day and age, death in childbirth is incredibly rare and not significantly higher than the probability of serious injury as a result of abortion.

It's very clear that you have no idea what you're talking about. Are you so lazy that you can't google childbirth death and injury rates, and abortion injury rates? No, you just make incorrect assumptions and guesses based on what you think sounds right/what you want to be true vs. what is actually correct. Childbirth is extremely physically dangerous, the amount of injuries you can get is staggering. Prolapsed organs, organ failure, torn anus and genitals(including the clitoris), life-long urinary incontinence, severe nerve damage, broken bones(!!!), and the list goes on and on and on. Pregnancy and childbirth will fuck. your. shit. up. A lot of the time, permanently. Even in the best case scenario you should expect that your body will never be the same and will likely get one or more of these issues, because they're that common. The USA has one of the highest rates of maternal death, and for every 1 that dies, there are 70 that narrowly escape death.

"RESULTS: The pregnancy-associated mortality rate among women who delivered live neonates was 8.8 deaths per 100,000 live births. The mortality rate related to induced abortion was 0.6 deaths per 100,000 abortions. In the one recent comparative study of pregnancy morbidity in the United States, pregnancy-related complications were more common with childbirth than with abortion.

CONCLUSION: Legal induced abortion is markedly safer than childbirth. The risk of death associated with childbirth is approximately 14 times higher than that with abortion. Similarly, the overall morbidity associated with childbirth exceeds that with abortion."

"The list of ways in which the pelvis and reproductive organs can be damaged during this process is practically endless. Most women, as mentioned, experience at least some vaginal tearing. But in severe cases, the perineum—the area between the vagina and the anus—rips completely open, exposing the vagina to dangerous bacteria and leaving the mother unable to control her bowels. Sometimes, as in Claire’s case, the baby is too big to fit easily through the pelvis, and the infant’s head or shoulders can break the mother’s bones on the way out. In yet another harrowing scenario, a piece of the placenta remains stuck to the uterine wall after the baby is born, causing the woman to hemorrhage. If the pelvic floor muscles stretch too far during delivery, the uterus may sag into the vagina: prolapse. And even after a woman heals from her immediate injuries, she can experience chronic nerve pain, muscle spasms, or numbness for months or years. Plenty of women make it through a birth okay, only to suffer from incontinence or prolapse years or decades later, for reasons doctors still don’t understand."

Cause that kids life is probably gonna suck more than your personality. Also orphanages really suck and foster care sucks alot. Especially when people like you only care about the kid until it's born, then leave it to be shot in school.

You know what else sucks a lot? Dying before you're even born, I imagine.

Especially when people like you only care about the kid until it's born

Well, no. I think it ought to still be illegal to kill a child after birth. If you're trying to insinuate that I don't support a Welfare State that gives benefits to mothers with children and public education, you would be wrong.

then leave it to be shot in school

Gun control is an unrelated issue. I'm not American. I support the current gun control laws in my own country. Don't try and distract me with this nonsense.

People forced to have children they dont want are partly the reason so many small kids are abused, neglected, tortured, sold, and murdered.
Their parents weren’t fit to be parents yet they were forced to go through with it anyways.

Firstly, they aren't forced to have children in 99% of cases. Other than incredibly rare cases of rape, the woman chose to have sex, which means they consented to the risk of becoming pregnant. Secondly, it isn't better to murder the child sooner, rather than later. That is the most ridiculous solution to this problem you've brought up.

Y'know when you're having the best day ever and you might whistle while you work? Life is so damn awesome right? I wonder if abortion doctors do that. Like if it's 4:45pm on Friday and the sun's shining.