Sum 41- A Showcase of Our Generation's Greatest Punk Rock

Special Notice: After a year or so of controversy and dispute, I’ve finally decided to give in and change the thread’s title. I have always figured that the message of Punk was to do your own thing and not change yourself to fit the public opinion… This is the main reason why I’ve been so adamant about not changing the thread’s title for anything.

However, I’ve come to realize that the people I was trying to uphold this message against are, well, the sorts of people that will storm a thread and make a big deal out of somebody “mislabeling” a band as punk. Somebody who is going to be offended because you do not agree with their musical technicalities isn’t somebody who I need to even worry about.

And so, I have changed the thread’s title not to please people, but to help divert arguments about Punk away from the thread.

With that, I would like to thank everybody else for their support, consideration, and acceptance. If anything, the changes to this thread are for you.

(Well, turns out I can't change the thread's title like I thought I could while writing this. The title that I now want is, "Sum 41- The Pop-Punk Rock Band Needs." I'll ask post here for a moderator to change it, however. Ah well..)

What's Sum 41?
Sum 41 is an award-winning Canadian band that stormed into the Pop Punk scene and is still holding strong. Since their origin in 1996, Sum 41 has released four studio albums, been certified platinum, and extensively toured the globe (often performing more than 300 times a year!) While Sum 41 is often referred to as a Pop Punk band, they are renown for their diverse range of styles and influences, and their music covers a wide spectrum of genres, including Punk, Trash Metal, and Alternative Rock.

This thread is dedicated to the adding of even more Sum 41 into Rock Band, especially after In Too Deep was featured in Lego: Rock Band. All in all, this band offers a terrific amount of talent that could be used as an incredible addition to Rock Band through DLC or even on-disc.

All Killer No Filler is Sum 41’s first full-length album released and is, by my own guessing, probably their most successful. Of all their albums, this is probably their most pop-punkish, showcasing particularly entertaining drumming and vocals. The album also benefited from the large success of Fat Lip and In Too Deep.

Coming in at about the same length and with about the same songs as All Killer No Filler, Sum 41’s second album definitely carries the same feel. However, the album did turn out to feel more heavy and alternative than their debut, and even gave hints to Sum 41’s upcoming metal styles, especially with the hit song, Still Waiting.

Chuck is a fairly odd, but often preferred turn in Sum 41’s musical style. For a band that was almost entirely Pop Punk and Alternative, Chuck has a very heavy and thoroughly metal feel. The solos are furious, the tone is intense, and the lyrics are ominous. It has been said that if it wasn’t for Deryck’s vocals, songs such as The Bitter End could even be mistaken for something written by Metallica. If you plan to listen through this album for the first time, expect something different, but expect something very well done.

Preferred song choices for Rock Band:No ReasonWe’re All to Blame (Has drilling thrash followed by acoustic harmony, giving off a very different but great feel)The Bitter End (As mentioned before, this song speeds through pulsing riffs and solos that you just wouldn’t expect from Sum 41)Open Your Eyes88 (This song features one of the sickest guitar solos I have ever heard. Listen for yourself!)

I’ll be blunt here: I really don’t like this album. It may have just been the lost of the band’s outstanding lead guitarist that turned it off for me, but I’m just no fan of it. However, what this means is that I can’t write a decent description of the album. If somebody who actually enjoyed Underclass Hero could write something up for me, that’d be great. But until then, this will have to do.

Embed Youtube or Playlist links into each of the “preferred song choices.”
Add a proper album description for Underclass Hero
Fancy formatting and colors

Thanks for reading this thread! I hope that it encourages both the forum users to support adding Sum 41 to Rock Band, and also the forum administrators to implement Sum 41 into Rock Band. I would also like to reinforce the point that I do not want arguing on this thread. If you do not like Sum 41, don’t think they are pop punk, do not like the thread title, or whatever, then please keep it to yourself. I know that everybody has their own opinion—and believe me when I say that I respect that—but complaining usually leads thread-derailing arguments. The point of this thread is to support the addition of Sum 41 as DLC, and not to complain about how much you dislike the band or genre.

As a final note, I want to gives thanks to everybody who has supported this thread so far. Whether it’s just a suggestion or expression of how much you like the band, it’s those posts that keep this thread going. Again, thank you.

I would recommend "Fat Lip" and "Underclass Hero" although the two songs sound similar... and again, that one Male Create-a-Character face (you know which one I mean haha) in Rock Band looks so much like Deryck anyway, Sum 41 should really be in the game!

I would recommend "Fat Lip" and "Underclass Hero" although the two songs sound similar... and again, that one Male Create-a-Character face (you know which one I mean haha) in Rock Band looks so much like Deryck anyway, Sum 41 should really be in the game!

Thanks!

I never really liked Underclass Hero, but I'll throw it in the Other Songs? section as well.

Oberlin: Haven't gotten to listening to any of the Thrash Pack yet. o_o But if what you say is true, and other people tend to want Still Waiting added in as well, then I'll gladly add it in as one of the main "ADD THIS PLZ" songs. ^^

Give me a few minutes to make my next reply, though; Adding in a series of Youtube links.

I'm so glad sum-41 isn't the best punk has to offer, because if it was, punk would be an absolutely terrible genre.

That said, I wouldn't mind Sum-41 in the game, their songs would probably be pretty fun, but as a person who's listened to punk most his life the thread title offends me.

I'm really not trying to be mean here. Honest.

Let's just hope he's 10 so the title may be a tad bit accurate in his eyes? Cuz theoretically bands like The Ramones aren't "of this generation" anymore.

Regarding Sum 41, I'd enjoy the songs in the game, especially most of the songs from All Killer, No Filler. Makes No Difference would be an amazing choice, also.

If I could pick Sum 41 songs for RB, I'd put Makes No Difference (so ****ing great, especially vocals), Summer, and Fat Lip. Now granted, All Killer is their most recent album I listened to besides the singles, but those would be the 3 songs I pick.

I'm so glad sum-41 isn't the best punk has to offer, because if it was, punk would be an absolutely terrible genre.

That said, I wouldn't mind Sum-41 in the game, their songs would probably be pretty fun, but as a person who's listened to punk most his life the thread title offends me.

I'm really not trying to be mean here. Honest.

^^; Understood, no offense taken. I understand that there are a number of better punk rock bands out there, but I was focusing on "modern punk" when I said "our generation", and along with the fact that alot of Sum 41's songs are alternative rock, along with some hard and light.

Let's just hope he's 10 so the title may be a tad bit accurate in his eyes?

Something like this, though, is offending to me, as he's basically saying that his taste of music is better than mine. ^^ But, it's too petty of an insult to bother me, and so I won't bother to talk about it, besides this.

TakeABow- o_o I think he meant post #15, the one where the person was listing off all of the bands that he would personally like to see.

kylerownsx62, kaybee, and kiggidykev- Thanks for the support!

kiggidykev- I agree with you. Underclass Hero, just... Isn't Sum 41.

I'll be making an update to the main post soon, to make better descriptions of some of the songs, and to add in descriptions for certain songs that people have reccomended here. (i.e. Fat Lip, In Too Deep, Still Waiting, and No Reason)

The Hell SongAlbum: Does This Look Infected?
The Hell Song is, hands-down, one of the best songs Sum 41 has come up with, and one of the best rock songs in existence. It's guitar rift (played in the opening and other parts of the song) is as extraordinary as Sweet Child O' Mine's

Wow, I love Sum 41 and the Hell Song too, but

WHAT A JOKE

Not even close to one of the best rock songs in existence, it's called a RIFF, not a rift,
and Sweet Child O' Mine's riff is the greatest of all time.