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Welcome to Valkyria Chronicles - Weapons and Technology discussion thread. The purpose of this thread is to discuss weapons and other Valkyria Chronicles related gadgetry and technology.

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The Tiger comparison is a good one too, as the gun on the Edelweiss is an 88mm gun, similar to the one on the Tiger. The Edelweiss's gun is shorter, however, only 44 calibers compared to the Tiger's 56 calibers, caliber being a unit of measure based on the diameter of the gun.

I wonder if they'll upgrade the Edelweiss like they do in the game? It started out like a massively overgunned Panzer III/IV and ended looking like a smaller Panzer VI Ausf. B. That would be quite awesome to see.

I also wonder if we'll see the upgraded and royal versions of all the weapons and if they'll draw them better? Some of the later weapon upgrades are insanely long though. The Gallia S20 is rediciously long for a five-round semi-auto battle rifle. It even comes with a built in bipod. On the other hand, the rifles and SMGs with the water cooling jackets are just silly.

Oh dear Valkyrie no. I rather they not tamper with the upgrade function in the anime.

In the game, all upgraded weapons ended up becoming some sort of monstrosity that was impossible to be wielded by human hands. Not to mention the Edelweiss' main gun, which became one gigantic facking barrel once you upgraded it to maximum.

The basic designs for the weapons were fine, there was really no need to do anything else. I'd much rather them be customized with optional accessories instead of forceful upgrades.

Some of the earlier weapon upgrades weren't too bad though. The initial Gallia-S rifles were pretty reasonably sized and the larger magazine SMGs look more like assault rifles, but they didn't strike me as terribly unreasonable. Or Ruhm, but that's not Gallian.

Unreasonable is that huge royal SMG with the massive water cooled jacket on it with a huge flamethrower slapped under it that I always give to Rosie. Or the Gallia-S20s. Or the last sniper rifles, which about a foot too long, methinks.

Well shooting two rounds in about 0.5 seconds as was portrayed in episode 2 is certainly not possible, I'll tell you that.

An assistant gunner has about 6.67 seconds time to reload the main gun of a leopard two. just in comparison. I never heard of an automatic loading system for tanks that is designed to do two shots in 0.5 seconds although I would not doubt that there are researchs on such reload system. If I compare the edelweiss with a big MG 3, yes, it would be possible. but the pushback would be immense
but in the the timescale of VC. no, not possible.

I wasn' t quite happy with the King Tiger because the following criteria spoke against this tank version:
- slow
- maneuvrability
- mass product type (King Tiger was fully developed and released > known tank)
- caterpillar (The Edelweiss Caterpillar reminds moere of the Leopard 2 (2 Big Wheels front and rear and 6 small whells)

I' m still a bit researchin on this but I think the Edelweiss fits more to a tank which was in prototype stage.

Is the situation so far portrayed in the anime where a newer tank demolishes tanks of a previous generation that bad possible in real life? I am just curious.

It did happen, and it's called Operation Desert Storm (aka Gulf War I). The Iraqi T-72s that went up against the US Army's M1A1 Abrams MBTs were massacared. M1A1s were sniping T-72s from afar, outside of range of the T-72. The few T-72s that managed to close the gap and fire were treated to the unpleasant sight of their shells bouncing off the M1A1's chobham armor.

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Originally Posted by Father Hentai

An assistant gunner has about 6.67 seconds time to reload the main gun of a leopard two. just in comparison. I never heard of an automatic loading system for tanks that is designed to do two shots in 0.5 seconds although I would not doubt that there are researchs on such reload system. If I compare the edelweiss with a big MG 3, yes, it would be possible. but the pushback would be immense
but in the the timescale of VC. no, not possible.

A well trained M1A1 crew can do 1 round every 4 seconds.

In terms of styling, it's hard to say where the Edelweiss is derived from, but in terms of features, there's no doubt in my mind: Edelweiss is a Merkava. It's got good gun, good armor, good speed, roomy enough to carry troops (although the placement of the ragnite engine prevents the position of a rear hatch like on the Merkava) and smoke dispensers and mortars.

The Merkava has a good gun, good armor, good speed, can carry a 4-man infantry team and holds smoke dispensers and a 60mm mortar.

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