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A big problem I have with this is that Tariq Nasheed named the guy in the video, labeled him a white supremacist and INTENTIONALLY opens the door for others to enact reprisal over the internet against this person. Seriously, there were multiple people on both sides doing **** and it's the liberal way to pick out one who they see doing the worst offense and harass them despite perfectly justifiable reasons for his actions.

Shouldn't they all be named? The girl did what she did and had to deal with the consequences by being punched in the face. Now the guy who punched also has to face the music, he also did a bad thing. Everyone should be held accountable for their actions.

Don't think that qualifies as self defense. He is the clear aggressor in the clip of the punch. If she came at him with a knife or something then yes it is self defense, or even came up to him swinging.

I thought he was a documented member of that movement with the black shirts with golden stripes and a golden Laurel wreath on their chest.
I saw him surrounded by those guys in some parts of the Berkley footage.

It's usually better to not respond to comments because it is not going to change anything in the end. First of all, there is not really anything to respond to your comment due to the fact you just said I have my head up my ass, secondly you called it propaganda. Okay, so what? I dont see it as propaganda to offer my opinion such as it is. What about me saying that a guy hitting a girl in the middle of a brawl between two parties is not justifiable? If your dukes are up, and you're in the middle of a brawl, and you have an aggressive stance, and you are dressed like the opposition, chances are someone's fist will find you. On her facebook, she said she wanted to bring back "100 nazi scalps", in an interview post brawl she justified throwing M80's at other people (even when told that one was thrown at an older woman who was a bystander and she fell down) all for their "revolution". Antifa was there intentionally to antagonize pro trump supporters because their presence was "taking away their rights," when Antifa's whole movement is based around intimidation to silence the opposition. Tariq Nasheed would defend her because she was a woman and they call him a "white supremacist" as a defamatory insult. He is there because it's a gathering of Trump supporters and clearly Tariq thinks that he is a white supremacist because he supports Trump.

I don't condone what Pol has done either with posting (possibly and likely photoshopped) nude images of this girl as an act of defamation. The problem here is that Antifa gathered to antagonize the pro Trump supporters. There was a brawl and this girl who believes in this Antifa message got punched. This twitter post is jumping to aid this girl based on a personal political message from Tariq to create a negative message about Trump's supporters.

So I say all this because it was justifiable on behalf on Nathan Damigo, Tariq jumping on board to create a negative narrative, and Chris Evans acting the tough guy as a method of intimidation. Neo-Liberals have done this a lot to manipulate emotions and draw support from sympathy and to alter public perceptions.

So yeah, that's my OPINION on the matter. While there may be "conservative propaganda" in what was just said, tell me how what I originally said was "conservative propaganda"?

There is nothing to defend because your comment was so off topic and was directed as an insult more than anything else. I could honestly care less about arguing with you, bud. Mainly because you're looking for a fight and it's nothing useful will come from it. So, go ahead a chalk a win on your metaphorical chalkboard, because I couldn't care less about this.

I went back and reread your comment to make doubly sure the issue wasnt on my end, but dude holy **** I cannot get around this moral safespace you've built for yourself. I get that I have an aggressive argumentative technique, but thats because the people I argue against typically arent punk bitches about being called out. Im not. I wont throw around the "ad hominem, your argument is invalid!" copout. But jesus christ dude you didnt even read my comment. In fact, you probably wont even read this comment. You'd thumb it down, but now you're analblasted that you didnt get to just do that and act like you ignored my last comment (because I knew you didnt).

In fact, what you did was fixate that I called you out on having your head up your ass, and then act in a fashion on someone with their head up their ass. My comment wasnt on whether the self defense was justified or not. My comment wasnt on whether Chris Evans was a "punk bitch" or not. My comment was calling you out for calling an entirely normal human behavior as "liberal behavior." Naw bitch, people have been doing the whole "appeal to emotion" and callout thing since forever. Conservatives did it during the Obama election. Bush did it between 2001 and 2008 for his run with the war in the middle east. Hippies did it during Vietnam. The whole country did it during WWII. All of this just makes me wonder how many people you've made automatic judgments of being "wrong" about when you didnt even have a clue what their comment was.

Just like it's not actually "the conservative way" to have your head up your ass. My head's up my own ass every now and then. You have your head up your ass with and/or without your political "opinionating!" (not actually what you were doing by the way, what you were doing was intentionally misrepresenting an observably normal human behavior and trying to detach yourself from it.) I mean...it must save you money on exams, but it's got to be a pain getting air with your head firmly planted next to your prostate, no?

Yea, we've seen they got no boundaries when it comes to homes and such, at least the only thing you'll get from the other side is a mountain of pizzas or PS4s or free wood for your furnace. They luuuurv justifying destroying someone else's property/livelihood "because you're doing it/earning it in the service of an oppressor anyway so it was never really yours."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't people also expose random liberals in crowds of their personal information as well? I remember one particular woman who was apparently a part of horse pornography, but otherwise she was just a random person in the crowd.

People need to vent their frustrations and they'll take any chance the have. F.e protests, sport events, news-story outrage, etc...
The real stupid part is when people start justifying that behavior for anything else than venting frustrations in a destructive fashion.

People forget we're all still monkeys. But nowadays we got magic boxes in our pockets

Yeah, no, so have I, im extremely relieved that Trump was the one of the two that won. But there are still parallel's that people give automatic favor for Trump. Obama goes on a handful of vacations and he's "wasting precious time!" while Trump goes on dozens of golfing outings and "oh those, err, those are formal business meetings! Totally different..." Obama considers formal military action on Syria and people, Trump included, goad about how ****** a decision it is and call him an idiot. Trump legitimately overbombs the area off of one prompt and "USA! USA! USA!..." Congress blocks 90% of what Obama would want to do and the republicans goad about how its "saving America!" Congress blocks one of Trump's proposals, and its "unpatriotic!" Obama gets elected, and everyone goading about how they dont want to follow him is "free speech" while all of this "not my president!" talk is "akin to treason". Its ******* pathetic.

Laughing at your oponent when they won't hear your words is a valid tactic. However i gotta agree that the joke has gone too far. There's a massive divide. Any and all hate across that divide is justified because the divide is there

Unfortunately, given current power shifts in the world, us getting those regions back will never happen at least in the next 100 years or so.
And when we finally will get them back, they will be worth nothing more than sentimental value.

>austrian citizen of serbian descent, angry that his country was occupied, joins a separatist movement and kills an archduke
>serbia gets blamed
>austria hits it with an ultimatum that'd turn it into a puppet state if accepted, despite serbia being allied to uk, france and russia
>some faggot blames us for being declared war on 100 years later

Not really.
North America was originally colonised generally as New Spain (South West and Florida), New France (South central, mid central, Quebec) and the British colonies (North and East, most of Canada).

Some regions changed hands at various points but in the end the United States was formed from the British North American colonies (except Canada).
The Spanish and French colonies were incorporated later.

America was certainly not 'Spanish before it was English' as you said.

If you want to go around blaming people, at least ******* educate yourself mate.

Here is ww1 broken down

Serbian Terrorist kills the guy who wanted better treatment for Slavs in the Empire.
His dad who still holds onto ******* Feudalism figures it's time to **** up Serbia for that.
He sends an Ultimatum so ridiculous that even he knew no sane person would accept that.
Meanwhile russian Tsar is already massing at their borders, ready to invade any moment.
German Emperor fully aware of what is going on in Russia, tells Austria "hey fam, we'll join any of your wars unconditionally" hoping this would move both Russia, and Austria to not start something they'll regret later

Serbia accepts ultimatum, but...
"HE SAID 'but' GET HIM!"
As a result, Russia immediately declared war on Austria.
Something that both would regret later.

Due to the guarantee of joining ANY war, Germany now declares war on Russia, AND France, because France and Russia are allied, so France would have attacked at least tomorrow anyway.

Germany doesn't like that retarded maginot line tho, so they ask Belgium "Hey uh m8, care to let us pas through here?"
So Belgium "bruh **** outta here"
Germany "You wanna ******* fite me? I'll **** you up, untermensch"
then Britain, because they were allies of Belgium "U WOT M8. I like you, but you fink you can fokin kill my allies? I'LL BASH YER FOKIN 'EAD IN I SWEAR ON ME MUM"

And this is how ww1 Happened.

Later Britain went on to cry rape, to get America involved.
Also japan was like, nibbling on Germany's toes (colonies) after Britain declared war.

France of course, being really ******* salty over both this war, and the franco-prussian war that caused the founding of Germany to begin with, France really wanted to piss on germany.
Britain and America knowing better, SUGGESTED France to not do that, but France being France did it anyway.

What everyone likes to forget is that Germany knocked Russia unconscious during the war, and gave them Amnesia, I almost forgot it myself.

Now we move on to ww2, and here the blame isn't even close to blurry, as you can't argue over politics semantics here. France is to blame, but Germany is still at fault, because ya know, this time they ACTUALLY started the war.

False. Man, you're pretty bad at this Germaning. You better let us Rumspringa'd Amish take over. At least we'd run off those damn roaches.
Have you ever seen those in our barns? No you haven't, because we're a clean and tidy folk!

The only people at fault for World War I were the various European monarchs and the French Republic with their convoluted web of alliances that turned what should've been a very small conflict between Austria-Hungary and Serbia as a result of an assassination of the Austro-Hungarian Crown Prince by Serbian-backed terrorists into a globe-spanning war.

World War II could be more accurately blamed on the Entente, as due to France's revanchism, Britain's obsession with protecting their colonial interests, and America's Congress deciding to take advantage of Woodrow Wilson having a stroke to get out of the peace talks entirely, Germany was subjected to the absolutely humiliating Treaty of Versailles, yet while it certainly angered them, it didn't cripple them enough to render them unable to wage war again Machiavelli wrote in The Prince "Befriend or kill, never injure. Men seek to avenge small injuries." . As for the rest of the Axis, the Entente renegged on a deal with Italy promising them certain territories belonging to Austria-Hungary should they defect from the Central Powers to the Allies made even more insulting to them as it was the Italians that ultimately forced Germany to sue for peace instead of trying to hold out through the winter into 1919, due to the completely collapse of Austria-Hungary leaving their whole southern border open to invasion , and post-war naval treaties pissed off Japan by restricting them more than the US and UK and as an island nation, they needed a strong Navy, which they couldn't have under the treaties of the day, though they got around this by simply lying about the classification and tonnage of new warships, as they knew that nobody would bother to verify the claims anyway .

To be fair, while most people there certainly weren't white supremacists that guy actually was, he is head of a white supremacists political group. They somehow managed to find one of the like 5 actual racists who were there

The thing is, that was not self defense in the slightest. He straight decked her in the face, she was not posing a threat to his safety at all. The guy is a scumbag who cares what that chick posts in her edgy twitter *********, dude straight nailed her for no reason.

I probably should have worded it better to be honest, but what I meant by that was, her tweets indicated she was going to take violent action at the protest, so it can be assumed that she did some sort of violent act towards others before the stuff we see in the .GIF

it much worse than you think. they showed up after the rally started and marched across a police barricade in a parade formation and then when they where driven back they started throwing m-80 into the crowd and even tried to use a dumpster like a battering ram to run over people.

i think he's also more upset by the fact that it was a man punching a woman than anything else. idk, i get the vibe that evans is an old-fashioned kinda man and was raised with the "never hit a woman" mindset. i think his tweet is saying "if you're a man and i see you hit a woman, i'm gonna kick your ass" rather than "if you're alt-right, i'm gonna kick your ass."

easy when you only have your job as acting and that takes a lot of time so you cant really get into the politics and see what the AFA faggots are really up to, which is just basic vandalism and terror. And spreading autism.

I'm against women having to register for the draft but that's because I'm against the deaft in general. That said if you're going to have a draft anyways then equality would mean both men and women get drafted

Well it would probably help if it didn't seem like every way fought in the last 2 decades was basically just for rich people and oil and not actually for the safety of our countries. If someone were to invade Canada then I'd be more than happy to fight but I'm not going to go die in some sandy **** hole for some CEOs bottom line.

None because we got rid of the draft when we realized it's an antiquated practice that shouldn't take place anymore. The US has an entirely voluntary Military and look it's still one of if not the biggest in the entire World.

And it hasn't been used in decades because it's there as a contingency plan. if you guys suddenly do need soldiers in case of WWIII or invasion of your country. In that case it would be severe enough that most people would be ok with joining because they'd see the necessity. Going and fighting a bunch of ********* hiding in caves for some CEO is not my idea of a situation which would justify drafting, and like I said that's the only kind of wars that have been fought for the last dozens of years.

Yes the draft is an "all hands on deck" scenario i spent my entire life never being drafted. I actually volunteer in the Army where I spent 13 years of my life service my country proudly while little whiny kids like yourself had this irrational phobia that somehow someway they would be Draft for no reason. Hell half those little ***** were lied to constantly about the Military.. I heard things like " Once you finish basic/boot they will ship you out to war!" which is dumb as **** since you have to train in your MOS and it depends on if your unit is deploying and if you would arrive before the left country... Its like you kids have been lied to your whole life and are so dependent on that lie you'll passionately fight for it..

What CEO's please tell me the corporations that will be sending men and women to war. Nike, Reebok, Gas companies like British Petroleum or Shell? Halliburton or Lockheed Martin? Please be specific instead of using shady faceless evil figures.

I tired of this paranoia and mindless following of conspiracy theorists because time and time again they are proven wrong... And if it even sounds like they may be right they change their narrative to make it appear they've been right the entire time.

Hell half you little **** didn't even know we found the WMDs in Iraq...

Because our founding fathers after just breaking away from a tyrannical regime understand that over time even our own democratically elected government may one day attempt to become a dictatorship instead of a free republic. It was designed to allow the common citizen to be able own firearm so that when it was time to take up arm against our government in the name of freedom and liberty.

So you agree to the idea that we should be allowed to own firearms in case the government becomes tyrannical and turns on it's own people but then in the next breath say that a program which allows the government to call all young men to battle regardless of what you think is a good thing? You think they might become tyrannical and attack their own citizens but they'll never abust the draft?

Get out of here you ******* hypocrite. I don't trust the government to only use the draft for the betterment of the country or it's intended purpose.

You're talking about two different concepts trying to connect them to a hypocritical thought in a hope that you'll not come off sounding like a coward.

Being afraid to fight and die on the battlefield because you're a coward who makes excuses ranging from wars created shady CEO's of nameless ( since you still haven't named them) Corporations or Evil Presidents of political parties you do not associate with doesn't mean that when all citizens that are called upon to rally under the banner to fight for their nation that the government is showing signs of being tyrannical in any way, shape, or form. If the Majority feels that the draft is justified then it is so, but if not then we take up arms.

Just because you're pissing your pampers because you may have slight possibility to fight doesn't make you being drafted a tyrannical act by any government. It is the duty and responsibility of every citizen to fight for a country that they have lived in and benefited from living in when the time comes that a draft is needed.

Though your country allowed many cowards back in the era of the last draft who fled stating that it was unjust that "they" had been chosen. You nation even protected them from extradition so they could not be prosecution. These cowards cried tyranny while conveniently forgetting the many before them that willing accepted their service to a country that has given them freedom and liberty.

but I guess when you're a citizen of a country that harbors deserters you think anything that make you have to serve your country must be a sign of tyranny, but willing allow your own PM and government to pass laws taking away your freedoms.

Arguing for the draft and then you bring up literally one of the worst cases of it happening. The Vietnam war was a **** show and people rightly protested and dodged the draft. Fighting and dying in some ****** country to baby bombs and punji spikes when your country's freedoms and liberty aren't even at stake. Sounds like exactly what you're opening yourself up to.

And I never said the country drafting you is automatically tyranny, but there are plenty of ways they can abuse the draft and I don't want to give them the ability to if it can be avoided.

If you like and want to sign an agreement that might lead to you getting shipped off and going to fight in ******** nowhere in Syria over an old mosque because the government deems it strategically important then you go ahead. I'll leave it to the voluntary military and not the slave military. Tell me again the difference between you and the serfs the lords used to conscript in their armies and then send to their deaths?

Oh right, I can think of one. You're stupid enough to think it's a good thing.

I never said there was no difference between the governments I said there's no difference between what they're doing in this case.

Soviet "Hey we're gonna conscript you to fight against your will"
US "Hey we're gonna draft you to fight against your will. Don't worry though it's to help France, also we used the word 'draft' so it's completely different'

Yes, a dictatorship forcing all of age males to battle is the same as you forcing all of age males to battle, regardless of what the battle is about. You're doing the same thing, which is forcing people to battle.

You think just because it's to aid allies it suddenly becomes something different? Did you take that lesson from United Airlines where they figured if they show the man they injured was actually a dude with some criminal past it magically absolves them from what they did? Are you that stupid?

I'm just pointing it out to you that **** by any other name still smells like ****. Whether you claim it was a conscription by a dictatorship or a draft by your republic the outcome is the same. Fighting age men forced to battle.

I told you I'm done. I'm assuming you're aware of the losses Russia faced in WWII. If conscripting your citizens to throw them against your enemy with the express purpose of overwhelming them with so many bodies with no regard for the lives of your countryman then that seems like an abuse to me.

You'll probably see it as getting to die a glorious death while unarmed to a Germany MG outpost so you can make the wall or bodies a little higher for the poor bastard behind you.

I literally give you an example of a government abusing a draft, and you yourself stated a war in which imo the draft was a waste of your countryman's lives, but I guess you're glad a bunch of Americans got drafted to go die in Vietnam.

Anyways I'm done. You can feel free to enjoy subjecting yourself to your government's wishes like the good little toady you are but I'm going to sit over here and enjoy thinking for myself about whether the fight is worth dying for, rather then getting told it is and just accepting it like you.

oh now the ad hominem. Look kid I'm sure whatever your loony ideals came from you're not alone or unique. You talk about how I am brainwashed for my ideals or I'm a "toady" but you continue to dodge the assertion that your country is actually becoming a Tyrannical Government by restricting what you can and cannot say.

you're arguing that the government "could" abuse the draft.... you have no evidence or backing to your "could" statement. You're talking in possibilities..

and oh I saw that, but I have too much respect for my fellow vets that died to free nations from actual true tyranny to debate that with you. I think you need to pick up a history book sometime and but down they propaganda.