Speaking of which, can we announce a closing date for buying Karmashares at 1.75x with Karma?

I think we have enough funding in Karma...

Chargin.

I agree, It will make KARM more expensive and Shares more valuable. In fact, we will see the real KarmaShares value

But in that case we would continue to accept investments in BTC?

Or you suggest closing completely the sell of shares?To only offer selling of shares again at some specific points in time, when the shareholders decide a new influx of investment would be good (called recapitalization phases)?

Speaking of which, can we announce a closing date for buying Karmashares at 1.75x with Karma?

I think we have enough funding in Karma...

Chargin.

I agree, It will make KARM more expensive and Shares more valuable. In fact, we will see the real KarmaShares value

But in that case we would continue to accept investments in BTC?

Or you suggest closing completely the sell of shares?To only offer selling of shares again at some specific points in time, when the shareholders decide a new influx of investment would be good (called recapitalization phases)?

Only sell shares in BTC when funding is required, it makes the most sense.

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Speaking of which, can we announce a closing date for buying Karmashares at 1.75x with Karma?

I think we have enough funding in Karma...

Chargin.

I agree, It will make KARM more expensive and Shares more valuable. In fact, we will see the real KarmaShares value

But in that case we would continue to accept investments in BTC?

Or you suggest closing completely the sell of shares?To only offer selling of shares again at some specific points in time, when the shareholders decide a new influx of investment would be good (called recapitalization phases)?

Only sell shares in BTC when funding is required, it makes the most sense.

BTC shares selling will bring lot of funds. Check AngelShares donation, or Ehtereum presale. There are milions of USD thrown in BTC fundings. Problem of BTC funding is you have to adjust it to KARM price, since holding KARM will make you revenue 1000KARM = 1 share payout. If KarmaShares sell lill.com, than there will be no more reasons for funding. Closing Karmashares 1.75x trading for KARM will strict deadline will force people to decide. I myself support KARM only because I was lucky to buy shares at 5x. I missed 10x multiplier. Without that, I will not care. Than I started to buy KARM coin too. I think deadline will force people to invest and to help the project move on. People will still be able to get revenue by holding KARM. Anyway, I think we should focus discussion on lill.com sell offer now. Everything depends on it.

Speaking of which, can we announce a closing date for buying Karmashares at 1.75x with Karma?

I think we have enough funding in Karma...

Chargin.

I agree, It will make KARM more expensive and Shares more valuable. In fact, we will see the real KarmaShares value

But in that case we would continue to accept investments in BTC?

Or you suggest closing completely the sell of shares?To only offer selling of shares again at some specific points in time, when the shareholders decide a new influx of investment would be good (called recapitalization phases)?

Only sell shares in BTC when funding is required, it makes the most sense.

BTC shares sellign will bring lot of funds. Check AngelShares donation, or Ehtereum presale. There are milions of USD thrown in BTC fundings. Problem of BTC funding is you have to adjust it to KARM price, since holding KARM will make you revenue 1000KARM = 1 share payout. If KarmaShares sell lill.com, than there will be no more reasons for funding. Closing Karmashares 1.75x trading for KARM will strict deadline will force people to decide. I myself support KARM only because I was lucky to buy shares at 5x. I missed 10x multiplier. Without that, I will not care. Than I started to buy KARM coin too. I think deadline will force people to invest and to help the project move on. People will still be able to get revenue by holding KARM. Anyway, I think we should focus discussion on lill.com sell offer now. Everything depends on it.

I agree with you that the option to buy shares with 1.75x multiplier should have a limit date.If it is forever, then it is perceived as not being that special.

Even for the BTC funds, I think we should set a date and after that do not accept more funding in BTC.

During periods when funding is not allowed, the only way of someone to buy shares would be to buy them from other shareholders.Market forces (sell and buy offers) will then dictate the price of shares.

Speaking of which, can we announce a closing date for buying Karmashares at 1.75x with Karma?

I think we have enough funding in Karma...

Chargin.

I agree, It will make KARM more expensive and Shares more valuable. In fact, we will see the real KarmaShares value

But in that case we would continue to accept investments in BTC?

Or you suggest closing completely the sell of shares?To only offer selling of shares again at some specific points in time, when the shareholders decide a new influx of investment would be good (called recapitalization phases)?

Only sell shares in BTC when funding is required, it makes the most sense.

BTC shares sellign will bring lot of funds. Check AngelShares donation, or Ehtereum presale. There are milions of USD thrown in BTC fundings. Problem of BTC funding is you have to adjust it to KARM price, since holding KARM will make you revenue 1000KARM = 1 share payout. If KarmaShares sell lill.com, than there will be no more reasons for funding. Closing Karmashares 1.75x trading for KARM will strict deadline will force people to decide. I myself support KARM only because I was lucky to buy shares at 5x. I missed 10x multiplier. Without that, I will not care. Than I started to buy KARM coin too. I think deadline will force people to invest and to help the project move on. People will still be able to get revenue by holding KARM. Anyway, I think we should focus discussion on lill.com sell offer now. Everything depends on it.

I agree with you that the option to buy shares with 1.75x multiplier should have a limit date.If it is forever, then it is perceived as not being that special.

Even for the BTC funds, I think we should set a date and after that do not accept more funding in BTC.

During periods when funding is not allowed, the only way of someone to buy shares would be to buy them from other shareholders.Market forces (sell and buy offers) will then dictate the price of shares.

Why get rid of the 1.75X multiplier but not get rid of holding the coins in you wallet for 30 days and receive Karmashares? With one (trading in your shares for a 1.75 multiplier) the LLC actually gets something in return. I personally would like to see the holding Karma in your wallet go away rather than trading Karma for shares at any exchange rate.

Speaking of which, can we announce a closing date for buying Karmashares at 1.75x with Karma?

I think we have enough funding in Karma...

Chargin.

I agree, It will make KARM more expensive and Shares more valuable. In fact, we will see the real KarmaShares value

But in that case we would continue to accept investments in BTC?

Or you suggest closing completely the sell of shares?To only offer selling of shares again at some specific points in time, when the shareholders decide a new influx of investment would be good (called recapitalization phases)?

Only sell shares in BTC when funding is required, it makes the most sense.

BTC shares sellign will bring lot of funds. Check AngelShares donation, or Ehtereum presale. There are milions of USD thrown in BTC fundings. Problem of BTC funding is you have to adjust it to KARM price, since holding KARM will make you revenue 1000KARM = 1 share payout. If KarmaShares sell lill.com, than there will be no more reasons for funding. Closing Karmashares 1.75x trading for KARM will strict deadline will force people to decide. I myself support KARM only because I was lucky to buy shares at 5x. I missed 10x multiplier. Without that, I will not care. Than I started to buy KARM coin too. I think deadline will force people to invest and to help the project move on. People will still be able to get revenue by holding KARM. Anyway, I think we should focus discussion on lill.com sell offer now. Everything depends on it.

I agree with you that the option to buy shares with 1.75x multiplier should have a limit date.If it is forever, then it is perceived as not being that special.

Even for the BTC funds, I think we should set a date and after that do not accept more funding in BTC.

During periods when funding is not allowed, the only way of someone to buy shares would be to buy them from other shareholders.Market forces (sell and buy offers) will then dictate the price of shares.

Why get rid of the 1.75X multiplier but not get rid of holding the coins in you wallet for 30 days and receive Karmashares? With one (trading in your shares for a 1.75 multiplier) the LLC actually gets something in return. I personally would like to see the holding Karma in your wallet go away rather than trading Karma for shares at any exchange rate.

Not to mention that it is super complex to keep track of all those addresses with more than 5 million coins.But this is something that we should not change without thinking a lot about it, because it was advertized for months.

"Probing for an alive pool""Waiting for work to be avaivable from pools""Setting gpu`s for idle performance"

I`m using the sgminer 14.6 and everything was working until today.

I would suggest trying to delete (or move) the .bin files and re-running the miner.bin files are compiled openCL code for your specific GPUs..I have noticed sometimes these can cause the miner software to hang at startup.

but the messages you have detailed seem to suggest that the pool is not communicating.. so I would also try different pools and making sure that they are P2Pool and X11

if that doesnt work then go to the SGMiner thread you will probably find answers there.

I tried this but still doesnt work. Can you give me a link to sgminer thread?I found one bit it`s not seem to be very active.

"Probing for an alive pool""Waiting for work to be avaivable from pools""Setting gpu`s for idle performance"

I`m using the sgminer 14.6 and everything was working until today.

I would suggest trying to delete (or move) the .bin files and re-running the miner.bin files are compiled openCL code for your specific GPUs..I have noticed sometimes these can cause the miner software to hang at startup.

but the messages you have detailed seem to suggest that the pool is not communicating.. so I would also try different pools and making sure that they are P2Pool and X11

if that doesnt work then go to the SGMiner thread you will probably find answers there.

I tried this but still doesnt work. Can you give me a link to sgminer thread?I found one bit it`s not seem to be very active.

you have to post more info. like your batch configurations. which pool are you trying to reach. what version your hard wares are etc.

World is full of scams. They need proof. Kosmost wrote, he has written offer. Let him publish scan of it. Than it will be BIG NEWS. Without that, it is just a claim for them.

I'm not sure if Kosmost can scan the document and post it here in the open for anyone to see...Probably only Karma team members should given access to it.

It is possible. Anyway, I trust Kosmost that his claim is true. But if I did not have experience with Kosmost before, I would definitelly nod belive that. 2,5 million USD is huge. Big news without price pre pump and pre buy are suspicius. There was not insider trading, just big dumping last week. 600 LTC worth of KARM dumped yesterday. The question is, do we want the price of KARM to pump? If the news are true, than let's buy as much as we can. Miners will be heavidly dumping till end of August, than will be block reward reduced from 35000 to 20000.

World is full of scams. They need proof. Kosmost wrote, he has written offer. Let him publish scan of it. Than it will be BIG NEWS. Without that, it is just a claim for them.

I'm not sure if Kosmost can scan the document and post it here in the open for anyone to see...Probably only Karma team members should given access to it.

It is possible. Anyway, I trust Kosmost that his claim is true. But if I did not have experience with Kosmost before, I would definitelly nod belive that. 2,5 million USD is huge. Big news without price pre pump and pre buy are suspicius. There was not insider trading, just big dumping last week. 600 LTC worth of KARM dumped yesterday. The question is, do we want the price of KARM to pump? If the news are true, than let's buy as much as we can. Miners will be heavidly dumping till end of August, than will be block reward reduced from 35000 to 20000.

The fact that there was no prepump/prebuy before the news were released just proves how legit and trustworthy Kosmost and the rest of the dev team is.I suspect that not even other people from the dev team (other than Kosmost) knew about the new VC offer.

I tried the best I could to know about the news (kosmost told he would only talk about LILL news when the block explorer was up again) , but Kosmost is impossible to break... eheh