Hardy Heron problem. - Ubuntu

This is a discussion on Hardy Heron problem. - Ubuntu ; I was using Gutsy until automatic update installed 8.04 and things got
weird. I have PATA devises and 2 SATA. 7.10 saw them all and was nice
about it. 8.04 beta now tells me I have all SATA drives.
Anybody ...

Hardy Heron problem.

I was using Gutsy until automatic update installed 8.04 and things got
weird. I have PATA devises and 2 SATA. 7.10 saw them all and was nice
about it. 8.04 beta now tells me I have all SATA drives.
Anybody else have this problem on multi-drive 'puters?
Bill Baka

Re: Hardy Heron problem.

Bill Baka wrote:
> I was using Gutsy until automatic update installed 8.04 and things got
> weird. I have PATA devises and 2 SATA. 7.10 saw them all and was nice
> about it. 8.04 beta now tells me I have all SATA drives.
> Anybody else have this problem on multi-drive 'puters?

What problem?

--
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and this we should do freely and generously.
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That's not AUTOMATIC. You need to manually type it in and specify the
-D parameter to get it. "Automatic" implies a single-click on the
"install" button on the GUI.
--
Jay (remove dashes for legal email address)

Re: Hardy Heron problem.

johnny bobby bee wrote:
> Bill Baka wrote:
>> I was using Gutsy until automatic update installed 8.04 and things got
>> weird. I have PATA devises and 2 SATA. 7.10 saw them all and was nice
>> about it. 8.04 beta now tells me I have all SATA drives.
>> Anybody else have this problem on multi-drive 'puters?
>
> What problem?
>
An IDE drive is NOT a SATA. Get it?

Re: Hardy Heron problem.

Trevor Best wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:00:43 -0700, Bill Baka wrote:
>
>> I was using Gutsy until automatic update installed 8.04 and things got
>
> I wasn't aware automatic update would install a beta, it doesn't on my
> Gutsy laptop and my Feisty desktop still says "New release 7.10 available"
> on it.
>
I'm not sure how it did it, but I was away from the computer for a
while, waiting for the update manager to apply something like 47
patches, and when I came back I had a 'bird' for my background.
I don't leave the computer on 24/7 but watching upgrades install is like
watching paint dry, so I left and Heron somehow managed to install itself.
No big deal to me since I didn't have anything really important on it
but now I am on Windows until the official release.
Meanwhile I have Suse, Linspire, Mandrake/Mandriva(?) and a few other
things to play with.
Cheers.
Bill Baka

Trust me, I did NOT do a sudo, it just happened and I don't know why.
I have noticed that updates have been about 20 per day for the last week
or so.
Maybe I should play with Debian for a few weeks.
Bill Baka

Re: Hardy Heron problem.

Bill Baka wrote:
> An IDE drive is NOT a SATA. Get it?

Yes, indeed. And yet again, what's the problem?

--
As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be
glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours;
and this we should do freely and generously.
--Benjamin Franklin

Re: Hardy Heron problem.

On 2008-04-16, Bill Baka wrote:
> johnny bobby bee wrote:
>> Bill Baka wrote:
>>> I was using Gutsy until automatic update installed 8.04 and things got
>>> weird. I have PATA devises and 2 SATA. 7.10 saw them all and was nice
>>> about it. 8.04 beta now tells me I have all SATA drives.
>>> Anybody else have this problem on multi-drive 'puters?
>>
>> What problem?
>>
> An IDE drive is NOT a SATA. Get it?

Re: Hardy Heron problem.

Ignoramus12441 wrote:
> On 2008-04-16, Bill Baka wrote:
>> johnny bobby bee wrote:
>>> Bill Baka wrote:
>>>> I was using Gutsy until automatic update installed 8.04 and things got
>>>> weird. I have PATA devises and 2 SATA. 7.10 saw them all and was nice
>>>> about it. 8.04 beta now tells me I have all SATA drives.
>>>> Anybody else have this problem on multi-drive 'puters?
>>> What problem?
>>>
>> An IDE drive is NOT a SATA. Get it?
>
> You can do
>
> smartctl -a /dev/sdX
>
> to see what your drives are (IDE vs. SATA).
>
> i

I would do that but I have taken Hardy off for right now and will be
burning some DVD-RWs with Suse, Linspire, Debian, and a few more.
I'm in XP right now only because I have Nero 7 on it that came with my
DVD burner, but will be back on Hardy as soon as the official stable
release comes out.
I'm sending this one to myself so I can keep it and try that.

Gutsy had no problem, and identified HDC, HDD, SDA, SDB, etc., and Hardy
did at first then got zapped somehow.

Anyway,
Thanks for the tip.
Bill Baka

Re: Hardy Heron problem.

On 2008-04-17, Bill Baka wrote:
> Ignoramus12441 wrote:
>> On 2008-04-16, Bill Baka wrote:
>>> johnny bobby bee wrote:
>>>> Bill Baka wrote:
>>>>> I was using Gutsy until automatic update installed 8.04 and things got
>>>>> weird. I have PATA devises and 2 SATA. 7.10 saw them all and was nice
>>>>> about it. 8.04 beta now tells me I have all SATA drives.
>>>>> Anybody else have this problem on multi-drive 'puters?
>>>> What problem?
>>>>
>>> An IDE drive is NOT a SATA. Get it?
>>
>> You can do
>>
>> smartctl -a /dev/sdX
>>
>> to see what your drives are (IDE vs. SATA).
>>
>> i
>
> I would do that but I have taken Hardy off for right now and will be
> burning some DVD-RWs with Suse, Linspire, Debian, and a few more.
> I'm in XP right now only because I have Nero 7 on it that came with my
> DVD burner, but will be back on Hardy as soon as the official stable
> release comes out.
> I'm sending this one to myself so I can keep it and try that.
>
> Gutsy had no problem, and identified HDC, HDD, SDA, SDB, etc., and Hardy
> did at first then got zapped somehow.
>

I think that you are making a mistake. Newer kernels treat IDE drives
by pretending that they are SCSI drives (SCSI emulation). If you want
to stay with up to day versions of Linux, you will need to adapt to
this change.

This approach of looking at IDE drives by pretending thaat they are
SCSI, is not really a choice that a distribution can make, once it
decides on what kernel version to use.

i

Re: Hardy Heron problem.

Ignoramus29232 wrote:
> On 2008-04-17, Bill Baka wrote:
>> Ignoramus12441 wrote:
>>> On 2008-04-16, Bill Baka wrote:
>>>> johnny bobby bee wrote:
>>>>> Bill Baka wrote:
>>>>>> I was using Gutsy until automatic update installed 8.04 and things got
>>>>>> weird. I have PATA devises and 2 SATA. 7.10 saw them all and was nice
>>>>>> about it. 8.04 beta now tells me I have all SATA drives.
>>>>>> Anybody else have this problem on multi-drive 'puters?
>>>>> What problem?
>>>>>
>>>> An IDE drive is NOT a SATA. Get it?
>>> You can do
>>>
>>> smartctl -a /dev/sdX
>>>
>>> to see what your drives are (IDE vs. SATA).
>>>
>>> i
>> I would do that but I have taken Hardy off for right now and will be
>> burning some DVD-RWs with Suse, Linspire, Debian, and a few more.
>> I'm in XP right now only because I have Nero 7 on it that came with my
>> DVD burner, but will be back on Hardy as soon as the official stable
>> release comes out.
>> I'm sending this one to myself so I can keep it and try that.
>>
>> Gutsy had no problem, and identified HDC, HDD, SDA, SDB, etc., and Hardy
>> did at first then got zapped somehow.
>>
>
> I think that you are making a mistake. Newer kernels treat IDE drives
> by pretending that they are SCSI drives (SCSI emulation). If you want
> to stay with up to day versions of Linux, you will need to adapt to
> this change.
>
> This approach of looking at IDE drives by pretending thaat they are
> SCSI, is not really a choice that a distribution can make, once it
> decides on what kernel version to use.
>
> i

That does make more sense to me since the kernel was updated when this
happened. If I see this with the Suse, Debian, free Solaris, or others
my game plan changes a little, so no big deal.