I am looking at the Burris Signature Zee Rings, but they are going to have to be in 30mm. So is it worth it to not have the extra inserts? Or do I still have that option, I just cant find those inserts. With the people who have these find a need for the extra inserts? Should I bother with all of this or just go with the Xtreme Tacticals.

The extra inserts are for the possiblity of needed set-ups. There are instances where the tapped mounting holes are not perfectly aligned, which having the offset allows you to compensate. These are a very good set of rings, just not always needed.

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What type of gun and for what type of shooting? The Xtreme Tactical rings will be far more stable and that is what I would go with. I like Burris products, but the Z Ring needs to go back to the drawing board. The base of the ring has a small clamping area and I have had problems with them tipping off vertical on a heavy recoiling gun. Other than that I like the inserts on the Signature rings, in general. They do not damage scope tubes.

I would like to be able to re-use them, but their first gun would be a .223 for target shooting (100 to hopefully 600 yards or so). So the heavy recoil isn't a problem. I defiantly like that it keeps the tubes in tact, but is there a full line of inserts for the 30mm? And would you recommend the standard signature series over the zee rings?

Also, I know they are not necessarily needed, but if the inserts can be used than its a nice feature and not overkill for my application.

I like the Signature over the standard Zee. To be honest I'm not thrilled with Burris' implementation of the Weaver system and will never buy the vanilla Zees again. Their just a pain to remove. For a heavy duty permanent mounting system on a rifle with properly aligned mounting holes my favorite mounting system is the DedNutz design. I'm sure SWFA would order you a set if avaliable for your rifle.

My favorite medium duty permanent Weaver style rings are the Burris Siganture Zee. The Signature rings sit a bit higher than advertised but do not mar the scope and to me that's a good thing. But it's the ability to dial out mounting issues with the optional incerts is what makes them killer.

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