When I read your reply, I kept thinking about banks...they privatize reward, and socialize the risk...and it needs to stop. A relative who had
perfect credit for years got socked with a "well, our deadbeats aren't paying so we're hiking your rates, perfect customer!" fee.

I think you are 100% correct and I couldn't agree with you more on your technology point. The Internet has lead us towards some type of
"quickening," I guess you would call it...the nerd out at DARPA had no idea what was about to be unleashed upon the world...you can't control the
masses getting their news from alternative sources (such as ATS), thus the whole SOPA/PIPA and now the new CISPA lurking on the horizon.

Governments everywhere maintain their power by the control, distribution and dissemination of information. They CANNOT lose control of it, and the
Internet just sort of "happened" out of nowhere on them Propaganda is the bread-and-butter of any functioning government, good or bad, and they
need to get it out there - that's why the pentagon has invested in "sock puppets," to infiltrate forums abroad. Operation something Voice, I think
it is...10 false identities for 1 soldier. Something like that.

That's why I basically stated very crudely and briefly about the need for credit and debt. This is how they "conjure" wealth out of thin air.
Fractional reserve banking and fiat currencies are ripe for this "three-card-monte-switcharoo."

Unfortunately, I think the reasons are likely to be mostly mundane and boring. Either they get high off the power, or, they simply want their family,
friends and distant relatives to be comfortable. Maybe their children? And grandchildren too?

Who knows? I can't begin to presume WHY they do it, I would have to be ONE of them in order to understand fully, and I certainly ain't privvy to
that.

Hrm...I'm not sure if that would even work, even if you could convince a population to participate in such a radical approach. The problems would
still be there, just on an adjusted scale...something needs to happen at the core of the whole rotten thing, we need to find corruption's achilles
heel, as it were, and shoot a poison arrow into it.

It would definitely help with the resources thing, but it wouldn't really change much, I think. I'll give it some more thought though..

I will give you credit for attempting to define our current state of existence. It is too easy to claim “conspiracy” these days about anything we
do not understand. The subject matter you bring fourth is of a highly complicated issue. You would need to go back to the origin of human history and
take into account every noteworthy event that has shaped our society until present as well as the varied psychological impact to most of the people
currently existing. Nice try for a message board, maybe you should try to write a book.

Originally posted by deviloshdoughnuts
War is not the answer and neither is famine or plague. The lie is that there is not enough to go around but there is plenty. The world's
infrastructure can be redesigned to support, educate, and revitalize communities instead of spreading poverty and war.

My beliefs on the conspiracy go further back. Maya and Egyptians each built pyramids and had huge empires with large slave populations. ALL empires
have used and continue to use the same model and even the same symbolism, What has been passed down from generation to generation has been the
knowledge of how to keep humanity in constant enslavement without us realizing it.

But why are so many of us questioning what is happening around us if they don't want us to know? Because they have gotten so confident in the
solidity of their plan and domination that they are practically shoving the truth in our faces.

The only way to stop this insanity is to join together in harmony. Our only hope lies in enough of us projecting positivity and changing what happens
TODAY in the hope that tomorrow doesn't turn out as #ty as it might otherwise.

Exactly... I want to add... Everybody seems to think in terms of "if we can only get these bad people who are ruining our lives, and kill them or put
them in prison, then all our problems would be solved". This is wrong. While I do believe strongly in having some form of a justice system, putting
these people away would not solve much. We would still have ourselves to deal with. In short, we don't need to "get the badguy" so much as we need
to treat eachother better. Ignoring the bad guy is the most effective way to deal with them. It could start small... A community refuses to be divided
and does something as small and basic as planning meals together. Instead of retreating into their homes to eat dinner, they got together and started
planning great feasts which anyone and everyone was invited to. Homeless or whatever. Think of how much food one household wastes? Now imagine a small
town of 10,000... If they planned meals together, they could save so much money, it wouldn't matter if there were some who didn't pay or help cook
or clean. They would catch on eventually... People get to know eachother by eating together. Maybe it won't start off with a whole town, maybe just
one street block. There are several advantages to planning feasts together in larger groups. Imagine every night for dinner, you could choose between
a number of different cuisines? The best cooks in the area would be whipping up Italian, Mexican, Asian, all kinds of good food!

We don't need war to decrease population, we need to educate the masses of the problems of overpopulation. With everyone on the same educational
level, we have a more chances of peacefully aquiring a solution to overpopulation. I do not believe that there is any one solution to our violent and
rebelious nature as a species, but there is infinite possibility for us to improve ourselves and to master our self-control. We must rally our people
against our own evil nature, and then there will be no individual or organization that will have power over us. We can conquer the world with love and
unity, and then we can give it back to whom it belongs: nobody. Yes, there will be problems. Yes, there will still be evil. But no, the world won't
be in a disasterous chaotic state that will destroy humanity. A smart man said, "the only way to rule is through fear." a smarter man said "the
only thing to fear, is fear itself."

If anyone could find the person to organize a Rally he or she would have to be extraordinary,as because of our nature we are not inclined to follow
anyone, that is why the old saying "Divide and Conquer" is the governments credo.

Thank you for condensing my own thoughts on the state of this species, and I'm sure many others, into such a concise, sensible summary. I feel that
at the level of advancement we are, even if it's nothing in the universal scale, it's a hell of a lot further than requires leaders and
dictators.

We are evolved, sentient creatures. Let us make our own way in the world.

I must admit I have been pondering on who 'they' are. I'm struggling to come up with a clear and concise definition for 'they'.

All lines of though so far have led me to 'they' = 'us' = 'humanity'. Logically deducing that further leads me greed, lack of compassion,
selfishness and a whole miriad of other inhumane characteristics which makes 'humanity' = 'inhumane'.

Although there are places around the planet that remain untouched by 'them' and one may move there if he/she chooses to remove themselves from
'their' grasp, these are remote and rare to come by.

Having said that, the only possible and feasible way out appears to be a complete re-evaluation as far as humanity is concerned followed by a mother
of a world wide revolutions.

You can point to any government, industry or any power conglomerate in the world and it will lead you to the very same conclusion: our dependence on
them is manufactured by them. Without our dependence, none of them would be viable.

No 'Matrix code' has been deciphered here. It's the world as we know it. Those not enthralled by society's yoke to the extent they are 'meant'
to be, have been cognisant of this 'truth' for time immemorial.

The real question is: Is the current status quo a good thing?

The answer: If one is on the positive side of the ledger, all is good.

Even tribes have chiefs, without some form of organized structure to resolve disputes you will have might makes right and survival of the fittest. As
long as there are human beings there will be disputes.

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