I think that Odin knew it was his wife's choice to defend Jane, and also, there was the fact that if she hadn't defended her, they would have got the Aether straight away.

I'm not surprised that Loki survived (wouldn't have put it past him to fake his own death so he could escape), though I have no idea where Odin is now. I felt sorry for Odin at the end given that he'd just lost his wife, Loki was dead, and Thor was leaving him, and then we found out it was Loki there anyway.

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Scarlet Witch. Not "Quicksilver's sister" like she's some Z-grade mutant who's only known because she's Quicksilver's sister. She caused M-Day!

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It was more sci-fi than I had expected. It looked a lot like Star Wars. Lasers, glowing swords. I'm fairly certain I saw Boba Fett armor. A friend of mine says that the whole sequence where one of the ships flies through Asgard was fully ripped of from The Old Republic. The sounds were very similar too.

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I liked the movie. There was definitely less action in the beginning but all the stories were interesting and they kept switching between them often enough that I never got bored. It did get annoying how often things "randomly" worked out in absurdly improbable ways.

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Especially when Jane Foster happened to stumble onto the Ether and then she and Tor just happened to find her car keys. There was just a lot of shockingly convenient teleportation going on here.

Regarding Loki:

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I thought it was pretty obvious that he faked his death in Svartalfheim even before we saw him turn into an einherjar* and fly away in their gondola-fighter-thingy. What happened to the actual Odin really is a mystery but I assume he isn't dead- they wouldn't kill Anthony Hopkins off screen without even mentioning it. Anyway, Asgard might end up actually doing quite welll- Loki would make a much better ruler than either Odin or Thor so long as he kept pretending to be a good guy.

*We first see the soldier with the sparkly green effect unique to Loki illusion-transformations around him. I think he also got a distinctive sound when he transformed. That was actually pretty well set up with the earlier scene.

maybeagnostic wrote:I liked the movie. There was definitely less action in the beginning but all the stories were interesting and they kept switching between them often enough that I never got bored. It did get annoying how often things "randomly" worked out in absurdly improbable ways.

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Especially when Jane Foster happened to stumble onto the Ether and then she and Tor just happened to find her car keys. There was just a lot of shockingly convenient teleportation going on here.

Regarding Loki:

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I thought it was pretty obvious that he faked his death in Svartalfheim even before we saw him turn into an einherjar* and fly away in their gondola-fighter-thingy. What happened to the actual Odin really is a mystery but I assume he isn't dead- they wouldn't kill Anthony Hopkins off screen without even mentioning it. Anyway, Asgard might end up actually doing quite welll- Loki would make a much better ruler than either Odin or Thor so long as he kept pretending to be a good guy.

*We first see the soldier with the sparkly green effect unique to Loki illusion-transformations around him. I think he also got a distinctive sound when he transformed. That was actually pretty well set up with the earlier scene.

Regarding your first spoiler:

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Wasn't randomly. Everything that got portalled but didn't reappear ended up where the Aether was, as such when she gets portalled there her car keys are there too (Intern dropped them for a joke scene).

Everyone I've spoken with about this film has disagreed with me, but I felt that the pacing of the film was just horribly off, most of the way through. The jumps from heavy emotional scenes to comic relief giggle-giggle scenes were so sharp as to be jarring, for me. I intend to have another go, though - and overall, the movie was really enjoyable. I saw it in 3D, but only because that was the earliest screening I could get in to, and it came with merch bags (I own one of a run of ~2500 posters ) - it didn't add a huge deal, but it gave a nice, subtle touch to a few things (Loki's glamours, people's cape movements and such, little things like that)

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How many of you stayed for both the stinger scenes, during the credits? I keep being surprised by how Marvel is tying everything together - the quite clearly have to start setting things up for the next Captain America film, as well as Guardians of the Galaxy, and eventually, the Avengers sequel, but they continue to take it in unexpected directions (I'm talking about the scene with the Collector)Loki's trick was...a little predictable - have you seen the fan turnout for anything involving Tom Hiddlestone? They'd be mad to kill him off...

I didn't really get the scene about the collector. I did think it was interesting that there are 6 of the cubes though. Does the tesseract count as one as well, or were they talking about the jotenheim ice cube from the first movie?

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I didn't really get the scene about the collector. I did think it was interesting that there are 6 of the cubes though. Does the tesseract count as one as well, or were they talking about the jotenheim ice cube from the first movie?

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That's lore from the comic-canon, as far as I know (I'm not quite up to speed on everything, yet). The Tesseract does count as one yes, as does the Aether from the more recent movie, but not the cube from the first Thor movie, which some research tells me is the Casket of Ancient Winters, a relatively unrelated artefact (TIL).IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED ABOUT WHERE THE MARVEL MOVIES ARE GOING NEXT, STOP HERE.In comic canon, the Tesseract (based on the Cosmic Cube from the comics), the Aether, and four other gems are known as the Infinity Stones - if they are held together with the Infinity Gauntlet, the holder gains the power to modify reality itself, and mould the universe as they will. Thanos (who we saw briefly at the end of Avengers) seems to be seeking the Infinity Stones and the Gauntlet for himself - it seems very likely that he'll play a large part in the upcoming Guardians of the Galaxy film, as will the Collector, as Guardians of the Galaxy looks set to lead into Avengers 2, which is likely to have Thanos as the main villain.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED ABOUT WHERE THE MARVEL MOVIES ARE GOING NEXT, STOP HERE.In comic canon, the Tesseract (based on the Cosmic Cube from the comics), the Aether, and four other gems are known as the Infinity Stones - if they are held together with the Infinity Gauntlet, the holder gains the power to modify reality itself, and mould the universe as they will. Thanos (who we saw briefly at the end of Avengers) seems to be seeking the Infinity Stones and the Gauntlet for himself - it seems very likely that he'll play a large part in the upcoming Guardians of the Galaxy film, as will the Collector, as Guardians of the Galaxy looks set to lead into Avengers 2, which is likely to have Thanos as the main villain.

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Well, Avengers 2 has been confirmed to be "The Age of Ultron", so it doesn't sound like Thanos will be the main villain there. More likely GotG will deal with him, and then he may return in Thor 3 or Avengers 3 or something.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED ABOUT WHERE THE MARVEL MOVIES ARE GOING NEXT, STOP HERE.In comic canon, the Tesseract (based on the Cosmic Cube from the comics), the Aether, and four other gems are known as the Infinity Stones - if they are held together with the Infinity Gauntlet, the holder gains the power to modify reality itself, and mould the universe as they will. Thanos (who we saw briefly at the end of Avengers) seems to be seeking the Infinity Stones and the Gauntlet for himself - it seems very likely that he'll play a large part in the upcoming Guardians of the Galaxy film, as will the Collector, as Guardians of the Galaxy looks set to lead into Avengers 2, which is likely to have Thanos as the main villain.

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Well, Avengers 2 has been confirmed to be "The Age of Ultron", so it doesn't sound like Thanos will be the main villain there. More likely GotG will deal with him, and then he may return in Thor 3 or Avengers 3 or something.

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Oh, so it has - I'd forgotten about that. I do remember them saying that they weren't going to be using the actual Age of Ultron arc from the comics, though - they're taking a few elements from a few different places. Ultron will probably play some large part in Avengers 2 then, yes.

I didn't really get the scene about the collector. I did think it was interesting that there are 6 of the cubes though. Does the tesseract count as one as well, or were they talking about the jotenheim ice cube from the first movie?

Spoiler:

That's lore from the comic-canon, as far as I know (I'm not quite up to speed on everything, yet). The Tesseract does count as one yes, as does the Aether from the more recent movie, but not the cube from the first Thor movie, which some research tells me is the Casket of Ancient Winters, a relatively unrelated artefact (TIL).IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED ABOUT WHERE THE MARVEL MOVIES ARE GOING NEXT, STOP HERE.In comic canon, the Tesseract (based on the Cosmic Cube from the comics), the Aether, and four other gems are known as the Infinity Stones - if they are held together with the Infinity Gauntlet, the holder gains the power to modify reality itself, and mould the universe as they will. Thanos (who we saw briefly at the end of Avengers) seems to be seeking the Infinity Stones and the Gauntlet for himself - it seems very likely that he'll play a large part in the upcoming Guardians of the Galaxy film, as will the Collector, as Guardians of the Galaxy looks set to lead into Avengers 2, which is likely to have Thanos as the main villain.

Corrections:

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In the comics the Infinity Stones are unrelated artifacts. The Cosmic Cube isn't an Infinity Stone. The Gauntlet itself is not an item.

Re: SecondTalon's post.

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I've got a feeling they've only decided to use the Infinity Gauntlet plotline while creating The Avengers. Their decision to use the Tesseract as a Gem is probably even more recent. I mean, the colour's wrong. In CapAm they use it as a power source, iirc, but the Power Gem is red. In the Avengers Loki uses it for space manipulation, but the Space Gem is purple.

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Neither originated in Thor comics. The Cosmic Cube originated in a Captain America story, the Infinity Gems originated in a Warlock story (although I don't think they were called Infinity Gems then), and the Infinity Gauntlet originated in a company-wide crossover.

And they were written FOR 8 year olds, so that might explain the naming. The Infinity Gauntlet remains my favourite crossover though.

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Were the original Thor comics written by 8-year-olds? Because that's some seriously cheesy naming.

In addition to what Zarq said (and this may be giving the writers across the board too much credit when only a few deserve it) the Comics Code was still going in the late 80s/early 90s - so a lot of discussions of non-Christian religions and explorations of alternative viewpoints did sometimes require a bit of hiding via stupid names and concepts.

But Re: Zarq's earlier response to me

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While I can't say I disagree, I also think that though they did combine the Cube and one of the gems, given how Loki was using it, I'm pretty sure it's not the Power gem, but the Mind gem.

The Mind Gem being blue.

I think Skull's usage of it as a power source was not unlike using an open pit of gasoline to cook - you can do it, but there's far better applications if you more fully understand what it is you've got on your hands. Loki's opening the rift thing being just another use of it as a raw power source.

Or I'm completely misremembering what was going on. Maybe both.

And maybe it's not a gem or stone as they're now calling them, but really is the Cosmic Cube and a separate item. In which case, nothing it did would be out of the ordinary.

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