Still no questions. Tell me which one's I haven't answered or shut up.

You've already failed to respond. I've already given you a quote from a thread containing one. Why should I waste my time looking them up for you? That's your responsibility. You can look them up yourself. So no.

Without the need for difference or a need to always follow the herd breeds complacency, mediocrity, and a lack of imagination

No. I'm not. I made that perfectly clear. I reject the premise contained in your question. This is what's called in the trade begging the question or, possibly a loaded question.

If it's loaded it and you can't answer it must have something to it.

The question was simple but once it got specific you clamed up. It's east to say " Get rid of government intrusion " or " Cut taxes " without looking at the consequences. And that's really the whole point of this argument and where the Libertarians and the conservatives as a whole fail.

Without the need for difference or a need to always follow the herd breeds complacency, mediocrity, and a lack of imagination

It get didn't specific at all...it became loaded...it contained an unproven premise which you insist on clinging to without proving and then expecting me to accept (again, without proof to support the premise) and then answer a question entirely based on the premise. This is an entire web of fallacious reasoning you've put forth.

It get didn't specific at all...it became loaded...it contained an unproven premise which you insist on clinging to without proving and then expecting me to accept (again, without proof to support the premise) and then answer a question entirely based on the premise. This is an entire web of fallacious reasoning you've put forth.

Evasion again. Still no answers. Under that definition any question would be loaded and you would always use this excuse.

Besides in the question itself it's you who must supply the proof. Proof that you could do the things you suggest without sacrificing people who are already suffering.

Without the need for difference or a need to always follow the herd breeds complacency, mediocrity, and a lack of imagination

It's east to say " Get rid of government intrusion " or " Cut taxes " without looking at the consequences.

Yes, which is exactly what you're guilty of but don't see it. Looking at of the (possible) consequences includes looking at all of the possible consequences and not merely picking only the ones (extremely negative) that suit your claim or view of the world.

Besides in the question itself it's you who must supply the proof. Proof that you could do the things you suggest without sacrificing people who are already suffering.

Wrong. Your question contains a built-in unproven premise (that cutting spending would be "throwing people to the wolves"). Prove (or at least support) this premise, then we might have some valid questions to discuss.

Wrong. Your question contains a built-in unproven premise (that cutting spending would be "throwing people to the wolves"). Prove (or at least support) this premise, then we might have some valid questions to discuss.

The question was posed to you first so the resposibiltiy of proof or disproof is yours.

Besides you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see what would happen. Some of these people haven't seen a job in years. Without some intervention they'd be up a creek without a paddle.

You would cut spending and cut taxes on the rich and make the poor pay for it. Your logic fails at the starting gate.

Without the need for difference or a need to always follow the herd breeds complacency, mediocrity, and a lack of imagination

Completely wrong...when your question contains (as it does) an unproven premise. I hope someday you will understand this. It will help you tremendously.

Another insult. And still no answers.

It's clear to me that you don't intend to address the question in a real fashion. I have better things to do with my time than wait for anwsers that will never come. You simply don't have any answers. You would think that at least you'd admit that.

Without the need for difference or a need to always follow the herd breeds complacency, mediocrity, and a lack of imagination

I have responded appropriately to your questions. When chose to prove the premises contained within them, then we can chat more.

In the mean time, all of this fallacy-busting has made me hungry. Time for supper. Let me know when you want to support the claims and assumptions you are expecting me to accept without question. Then our conversation might be able to move forward.

I'm truly sorry that when someone points out a lack of knowledge on your part (as strongly evidenced by your posts) that you view it as an insult.

I'm truly sorry that you seem to obfucate and insult in a lame attempt to sound superior so you could evade a question. Come MJ I'll give you the last word again since that seems to mean so much to you. But I have things in the real world to do.

Without the need for difference or a need to always follow the herd breeds complacency, mediocrity, and a lack of imagination