Well, basically the others covered it well. 20 points in LF and Valk are enough to get you through the game. Everything else is more or less just icing on the cake. I'd put one in guided arrow to deal with LIs. (works better for me than going melee, a semi decent bow should leech enough mana to recover what you expend).

Don't put any points (other than the first) into penetrate. I wouldn't put too much into the dodging skills either, as they don't do much for you if you have a shield. Assuming 75% blocking, 50% in each of dodge, avoid and evade only gain you another 12.5%. (come to think of it, that's not correct for evade as blocking is reduced when moving (right?) but who uses evade anyway? )

Oh, and be prepared to be bored as the game isn't really challenging once you've maxed LF.

I got my untwinked zon to lvl 90 on hc ladder before i quit and killed her.
skills
LIt fury max
charged strike max
Plague java max
jab 1 point (with + skills this was around 10)
pierce 1 point if will have good +skills
decoy 1 point
valk 17 with +skills (at 17 she gets a war pike and does good damage)
dodge evade and.the other lol only a couple pionts if u will have + skills
Rest in poison java for the synergy

Gear.
Since u are going untwinked the first thing u need to find is +skill, +ias javas. Just find some of those...get some good resists gear and u are set.

With this set up u have charged strike for bosses and single monsters and lit fury and plague java for groups. Lit immunes are ez to handle....get a might merc. Launch plague java and run in and jab. The might merc with a decent wep can easily do 4k damage and he will help ur valk and u kill alot faster

Max Valkyre (really, she be your best girlfriend)
2~3 in the acrobatic skills (dogde avoid evade depending on your +skills...) aim for 5 in each
Pierce... if you will find a razortail (33% to pierce) around 10 points... if you dont, 15 points will do.. really this and LF, LS shines
Crit strike 3 (+skills will boost this enough)
Penetrate (check your AR, really depends on your equipment)

Lichtning Strike Max
Lichtning Fury Max
(Syns for eachother)

Now you'll have a crowd control (both do the trick really wel) and a melee/boss attack, LS really rocks IMO

now for your second element, so far we have had around 80 points spent.. so we have 1 more skill we can max, you can choos to become a hybrid and use immolition arrow (fire) or frozen arrow (cold, great for "stopping" groups and tear them apart with LF or LS) or you can choose to stay a pure java an max plague javalin or, ( some people like fend it, i dont) you can go for some more points in jab and or fend (melee, really your choice, but i heared a Lichtning//Poison javazone kicks grass in 1.10)

strenght, around 160 with our gear (you MIGHT find a stormshield, otherwise keep it as high is needed for your equipment
dex, for max block
vitaly, pump, pump, pump it up
energy, nothing really needed, but as it is HC and untwinked, i suggest putting some points in it so that you wont run out of mana to fast, in other worths, play a little more defense (keep in mind 1.10 sells mana pots :lol: )

hope it helps a little bit, and good luck :thumbsup:

robin

edit: hmz thnx steel, now i wasted another 3 minutes of my life :teeth:

Just chiming in on the dex part. Yup, its mainly for blocking and equipping gear. You'll have more than fair dmg by the time your dex achieves those. For HC, untwinked, points would be far better spent in vita.

And remember, to dmg enemies, attack them. :drool:

*edit*

PS: about penetrate, i believe LF falls into the category of 'always hit regardless of AR'? Nonetheless i think the other skills would be AR dependant, and i'd disagree with NF here that some points spent in penetrate would be worth it.

Could run normal meph and try to get that cheesy unique long bow (IIRC) with the lvl 30 exploding arrows to handle those LI/PI monsters.

Should I go home early today and drink those beers I left in the fridge last night?

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No, send them to me and I will find a way of disposing of them. :drink:

Back to your original question about Java Zons.... The only thing that will cause you any problems at all is LI Monsters, mainly Will 'o Wisp types in Act IV and V.
Get a might merc, the biggest hurtiest stick you can get for him and as much leech and PDR you can get to keep his *** alive. Assuming you go pure lightning that is.

If I were to go back and re-do my Javazon, I would Max Valk, Lightning Fury, and probably Freezing Arrow. The synergies for LF ar paltry unless you're willing to dedicate a lot of points into maxing a couple, and LF is insane on its own. Don't worry about any of the other lightning skills unless you actually plan to use them (Charged Strike would be a the only other lightning skill I'd put points in due to its ability to dissolve bosses...but since you have to get close to them, I'd probably ignore it and go for a 1+ point Guided Arrow). I'd put the rest of the points into dodge skills.

Have fun because a lvl 20 LF is awesome to behold

EDIT: And look for any Amazon specific Javs with increases stack size and Replinish Quantity because you'll burn through them faster than you read this edit. (Knockback is a plus)

Durf,
I would go Max Lightning Fury, Max Charged Strike, Max Valk, try to get to 50% in Dodge, Avoid, Evade, Pierce to 50% and 1 or more points in the same string as Pierce, Critical Strike and Penetrate. Plus skill gear is very helpful as is a Holy Freeze or Might Merc. In your bow skill's I like Strafe and Guided Arrow. Charged Strike is usually your boss killer and can even be you LI killer I have found. Dex to Max blocking, Strength enough to equip your gear and everything else into Vitality. End game you should have at least 100 pts into Vitality.
More later,

i would not play in hell with only 100 pts in vit. Im not sure exactly how much life that is but i wouldnt play in hell with under 1k life..... 1400 + life with gear and charms is what u should try for. With 1400+ life some decent dr and max block u will have a very good zon.