I'll just bury my head in the sand! Surely, Brady Hoke will have us in the national title game in a few years, because he's a Michigan man by golly! Just ignore the team obviously getting worse on the field, that's just because of the nasty effects of Evil Rodriguez, who had nothign to do with the 11-2 team the year after he left, but is entirely to blame for the crap offensive line we have 2 years later!

November 4th, 2013, 12:45 pm

Blueskies

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Re: So after Michigan gets demolished by OSU..

Anyone want to argue with me here? I'll be shocked if Michigan wins another game.

Anyone want to argue with me here? I'll be shocked if Michigan wins another game.

You might be right. We might not win another game this year. While this is Hokes 3rd season, He has 2 Recruiting classes in. True Freshmen usually only contribute in practice, not games. There are some exceptions to that. So, for all intents and purposes, Hoke only has 1.5 recruiting classes actually contributing on game day. What you are seeing is the wreckage that Rich Rod left behind when he was fired.

Next season, Hoke will have his 3rd recruiting class in. So, he will have roughly 2.5 recruiting classes actually playing in the games. The balance of the team will finally tip to Hokes players side. And we will see a better product on the field. Now is the time for patience. If you fire Hoke now, it will be another 3.5 years before the next guy gets more than half the team filled of his players. You think it is tough to win in the NFL when you keep firing the HC? It is infinitely tougher to win in College when you have a Detroit Lions fire the HC mentality.

Rich Rod got the axe because it was painfully obvious he was completely wrong for UofM. It was obviously wrong to nearly all fans and alumni from the start. Yes, there were a few fans, such as you, that liked Rich Rod. But, the vast majority knew it would not work at UofM. Tradition is what rules the day at UofM. And Rich Rod was so far away from Michigan Tradition. Clarence Underwood is to the office of the UofM Athletic Director, what Matt Millen was to the Lions as GM. Underwood screwed the football program and then promptly retired so he wouldn't have to clean up the mess. I suspect he took money from some Sparty alumni to purposely hose the football program as bad as he could. Rich Rod was a good choice, if that was the case.

November 10th, 2013, 9:35 am

Blueskies

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Re: So after Michigan gets demolished by OSU..

The Michigan tradition is to win -- beat MSU 75% of the time, OSU 50%. Right now, Michigan State has a better program; I'd take Dantonio any day over Hoke. Brady Hoke is our Charlie Weiss.

But OK, keep making excuses. Hopefully Hoke will stick around another two years, and then when the program continues to be terrible, we can gut the entire staff and pizza boy as well.

November 10th, 2013, 12:03 pm

kdsberman

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Re: So after Michigan gets demolished by OSU..

Blueskies wrote:

The Michigan tradition is to win -- beat MSU 75% of the time, OSU 50%. Right now, Michigan State has a better program; I'd take Dantonio any day over Hoke. Brady Hoke is our Charlie Weiss.

But OK, keep making excuses. Hopefully Hoke will stick around another two years, and then when the program continues to be terrible, we can gut the entire staff and pizza boy as well.

State had a better program because they're more worried about winning then their big fancy recruits and the "wait til next year" mentality.

November 10th, 2013, 11:42 pm

Blueskies

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Re: So after Michigan gets demolished by OSU..

Line is around 14 -- free potato chips. OSU will win by 3-4 TDs, easy.

November 27th, 2013, 3:00 pm

The Legend

HC – Jim Caldwell

Joined: February 11th, 2005, 3:01 pmPosts: 4699Location: WSU

Re: So after Michigan gets demolished by OSU..

[quote="Blueskies"]Will people finally realize that Hoke is a fraud? This is a bad, bad team that will likely finish 7-5.[/quote

No and Yes.

Fully expect them to lose badly to Ohio State. Fully expect people like you to panic more but I still see a program that is massively improved over its predecessor now making a transition to new schemes on offense and coaching up young players on both sides of the ball. im not predicting that hoke should stay indefinitely but he gets another 1-2 years to see what he can do with seasoned players that him and his staff have had a chance to develop. This isnt college basketball.

November 28th, 2013, 1:14 pm

Blueskies

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Re: So after Michigan gets demolished by OSU..

lol. What improvement? You're only seeing what you want to see. The team has gotten worse as the season has rolled on, and could've easily lost to Akron and Uconn. The offense is as bad as Rich Rod's defense.

This could end up to be one of those times when Michigan has no business wining, but, for some reason, has the game of the season and in the process, destroys OSU's season.

November 29th, 2013, 12:38 am

The Legend

HC – Jim Caldwell

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Re: So after Michigan gets demolished by OSU..

Blueskies wrote:

lol. What improvement? You're only seeing what you want to see. The team has gotten worse as the season has rolled on, and could've easily lost to Akron and Uconn. The offense is as bad as Rich Rod's defense.

yes i agree offense this year is terrible. program is markedly better and healthier overall despite team having a bad bad season.

lol. What improvement? You're only seeing what you want to see. The team has gotten worse as the season has rolled on, and could've easily lost to Akron and Uconn. The offense is as bad as Rich Rod's defense.

yes i agree offense this year is terrible. program is markedly better and healthier overall despite team having a bad bad season.

And the offensive struggles are mainly the result of a woeful Offensive line. We have one of the top LT's in the nation coming in to replace that fraud that is Lewan. And some more young guys will have a year of experience in the system. The Offense will get better.

November 29th, 2013, 3:31 pm

The Legend

HC – Jim Caldwell

Joined: February 11th, 2005, 3:01 pmPosts: 4699Location: WSU

Re: So after Michigan gets demolished by OSU..

BillySims wrote:

The Legend wrote:

Blueskies wrote:

lol. What improvement? You're only seeing what you want to see. The team has gotten worse as the season has rolled on, and could've easily lost to Akron and Uconn. The offense is as bad as Rich Rod's defense.

yes i agree offense this year is terrible. program is markedly better and healthier overall despite team having a bad bad season.

And the offensive struggles are mainly the result of a woeful Offensive line. We have one of the top LT's in the nation coming in to replace that fraud that is Lewan. And some more young guys will have a year of experience in the system. The Offense will get better.

toussaint hasnt been the same and has been terrible in pass protection, green was out of shape, they dont have great WR targets though Gallon has gotten as much as one could expect from his talent and Funchess could be something, Gardner has been a scared indecisive player since the MSU beatdown. Its been a bad bad season esp on offense and Blueskies might be right that Hoke ends up gone sooner than we think bc if you breakdown the situation the outlook for next season doesnt look great either. Gardner looks broken, Morris supposedly isnt the sure thing that the staff once though he was, Green has been disappointing as a runner, the interor OL man havent produced yet and they havent developed much WR talent beside Funchess. Best case scenario is that the OL beefs up in the offseason and that Green and DeVeon Smith see that they have real PT coming there way and lead the way for the offense. Maybe Garnder goes back to WR in favor of Morris and the WRs end up as Funchess, Gardner and newby Drake Harris with Chesson and Darboh in the mix also.