Cars4lyfe, thanks, and yes my main motivation is Bangle/Van Hooydonk. In fact my dad's 645Ci is what inspired me to design concepts and all that stuff. There's something about the complex designs of flame surfacing that makes it easy to implement into sketches. That's probably why most of my sketches look somewhat unoriginal, although I do makes some pretty random more concept-ey sketches. I'll try to find one right now...