Thats easy. The Akatsuki Hime. Of course, its considered part of the LED Mirage fleet (all of the Mighty Series MH's are) so I guess it doesn't count.

Then the KOG (Lachesis version) would be next. Its not considered a LED Mirage.

After that would be the Jagd Mirage of course, then the other Mirage Machines and top MH's like Engage SR-3 (built to be on par with Mirage Machines), MM: AUGE, Empress Flame etc.

Of course all this is moot, because its the combination of Headdliner+Fatima+Mortar Headd. Remember that an older high quality Mortar Headd (the Vatshu) was able to go toe-to-toe with a LED Mirage and do as much damage to the LED as the Mirage did to the Vatshu! Thats because the Headdliner+Fatima+MH combination was perfect, thus the sum of the whole was far, far greater than its parts.

terminus wrote:lets say if both Fatima and Headliner had the exact same skill and potential, not including the Mirage fleet or the Junchoon/ Engages, what is the most powerful MH?

No mirages at all?

I can understand the LED and all its variants. I can also understand the KOG variants and Jagd Mirage, but the other Mirage machines (Cross, Terror, Rogue, Cloudschatze etc) while very powerful, aren't unbeatable.

Of course most all of the Mirage Machines (including the old-skool Horned Mirage) overpower all other MH's with very few exceptions.

p.s. I personally would like to know which is more powerful out of these:
Bangdoll, Prominence, Neptune, Kan, and Terror Mirage.

-thanks!

Hmmm...they are very close in power level, except for the Terror. I'm not sure how much power the Kan has, but it is a newer MH built based on some of the design functionality found within the LED Mirage, so its probably quite good. I would rate them as such:

Terror
Kan
Prominence
Neptune
Bangdoll

The Prominence and the Neptune have very close to the same power level. (about 1.4 to 1.5 Trillion Horsepower), the Bangdoll is just beneath that (1.35 trillion Hp) The Terror has over 2.0 trillion Hp (I think, could be wrong) so its quite a bit more powerful. The Kan is unknown at this time, but I wouldn't be surprised if it hits close to 2.0 trillion Hp.

Hmm.... something that can compete with the mirage fleet? There's precious little out there by way of competition, once you take into consideration that the LED engine alone basically makes up the most powerful MHs, and that even the lousiest mirage outclasses the finest and best anybody else has out there....

The Yen Xing would be my safest bet, which would mean the Flame Empress. In the same vein, I would say the Yen Xing MMs and AUGE as well, if you don't mind counting MMs. But then again, I think the MMs easily trump anything that doesn't have an LED engine, so there you have it.

Just don't get too hung up over it; horsepower doesn't necessarily make the day. Otherwise, the Black Knight would never have fought that LED to a standstill; there's so much more to consider than raw power.

Euhsung wrote:Hmm.... something that can compete with the mirage fleet? There's precious little out there by way of competition, once you take into consideration that the LED engine alone basically makes up the most powerful MHs, and that even the lousiest mirage outclasses the finest and best anybody else has out there....

The Yen Xing would be my safest bet, which would mean the Flame Empress. In the same vein, I would say the Yen Xing MMs and AUGE as well, if you don't mind counting MMs. But then again, I think the MMs easily trump anything that doesn't have an LED engine, so there you have it.

Just don't get too hung up over it; horsepower doesn't necessarily make the day. Otherwise, the Black Knight would never have fought that LED to a standstill; there's so much more to consider than raw power.

and there aren't any Yen-Xings anymore in the "main" timeline right???

p.s. Not including MMs and LED fleets, is the Prominence, Neptune, and Empress Flame the most powerful normal MHs atm?

terminus wrote:
and there aren't any Yen-Xings anymore in the "main" timeline right???

p.s. Not including MMs and LED fleets, is the Prominence, Neptune, and Empress Flame the most powerful normal MHs atm?

You would be correct on both points. No more Yen Xings left (that we are aware of). The closest thing would be the Empress Flame which mounts twin Yen Xing engines within her.

The Engage SR-3 should trump the Neptune and the Prominence. It was made by Dr. Diamond Neutral and was made to be as powerful as the (normal) Mirage fleet. The Engage SR-1 may also be on that power level. the Kan may also be up there. It is unknown how powerful the Phantoms are, they are probably at least as powerful as the Neptune and Prominence, possibly more powerful.