voodoospirit wrote:we all know that C, bow, delta, hybrid , turn at the same speed.......

when i see a switch/hydra truning, can t say it s faster than a flysurfer.

Um no they do not. Turn speed and radius are all so different. C's for example turn in a radius and generate power in the turn. Delta's pivot turn or on a radius just depends on the kite. Who still makes a bow besides Cabrinha? Bows turn really slow and I don't like them.

I used to ride foils and when I did, I too always wanted to debate which was better. Now that I don't have any foils I don't really care. Yet I remember caring a lot when I did. Why is this? Are foil kiters constantly trying to prove they are better or something?

I guess maybe I've just heard the argument too many times from both sides....They are different. like apples and oranges. stop trying to compare them.

I used to ride foils and when I did, I too always wanted to debate which was better. Now that I don't have any foils I don't really care. Yet I remember caring a lot when I did. Why is this? Are foil kiters constantly trying to prove they are better or something?

I guess maybe I've just heard the argument too many times from both sides....They are different. like apples and oranges. stop trying to compare them.

yet you feel the need to wade in?

The reason is simple, so much bullshit is spouted on forums like this, stuff that is COMPLETELY untrue. People want to set the record straight.

that's why.

What is more interesting is why so many people who apparently don't give a shit, feel the need to come onto a thread and say "why you guys always trying to prove you're better"

I started this topic to know who is the best kiter that can loop Foils on the water in HW++............
...and hopefully know who entered the Red Bull King of Air...
...have lots of fun and hopefully place very well against the LEI's that are favorite to win

I used to ride foils and when I did, I too always wanted to debate which was better. Now that I don't have any foils I don't really care. Yet I remember caring a lot when I did. Why is this? Are foil kiters constantly trying to prove they are better or something?

I guess maybe I've just heard the argument too many times from both sides....They are different. like apples and oranges. stop trying to compare them.

Maybe because they are the underdogs all ways in the kite community? Just a thought.