First up is Steve Lehto, author of "Preston Tucker and His Battle to Build the Car of Tomorrow." With a dream to shake up the auto industry, hear the story of what went wrong and why the production of such an innovative car got killed.

In the second half of the show host Dave Robertson talks to Tom Cochran, Chief Digital Strategist at Acquia, who previously served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary at the U.S. Department of State and Director of Digital Technology at the White House. They discuss how easy (or difficult) it is to innovate at the government level.