Randy Sutton

Randy Sutton is a 33-year law enforcement veteran, a trainer, and the national spokesman for The American Council on Public Safety. He served 10 years with the Princeton (N.J.) Police Department and 23 years with the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, retiring at the rank of lieutenant. He is an author who has published multiple books on law enforcement.

Gun Grabs Are Deadly Serious Even if Suspect Unarmed

When suspects try to take their firearms, officers are justified in using lethal force.

March 05, 2015
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by Los Angeles Police Protective League

LAPD officers shot and killed a convicted bank robber Sunday after he reportedly tried to grab one of the the officers' guns.

In the immediate aftermath of the Los Angeles Police Department officer-involved shooting this past Sunday, the Los Angeles Times posted an article by an “unnamed writer” who wondered, “What guidelines govern how officers behave in situations like the one that occurred Sunday…?” Our answer is, if a person takes or attempts to take an officer’s gun — no matter their motivation or mental state — they should expect that officers may resort to the use of force and justifiably, deadly force. An officer who hesitates, for whatever reason, is likely to end up seriously injured or even dead.

The tragic case of West Covina Police Officer Ken Wrede is often used in officer training to illustrate this point. On August 31, 1983, Officer Wrede was flagged down by a citizen reporting an intoxicated person. Upon contact with the man, Michael Anthony Jackson, a physical altercation ensued which ended with Officer Wrede returning to his patrol car. The tragic outcome was laid out in 2009 by the California Supreme Court in upholding Jackson’s death sentence:

“Officer Wrede ran to the driver's side door of the police vehicle and defendant ran to the opposite side of the vehicle, opened the passenger side door and grabbed a shotgun that was secured in a rack. Officer Wrede broadcast, ‘he’s got my shotgun rack,’ and then pushed the defendant and they struggled over the shotgun until defendant ripped the shotgun and the rack from the vehicle. Officer Wrede broadcast, ‘He pulled it out,’ and then pointed his handgun at defendant over the roof of the vehicle. The shotgun was kept in the rack at ‘patrol ready,’ meaning there were four rounds of ammunition in the magazine and the safety was on. To fire the shotgun, the safety must be off and a round must be moved from the magazine to the firing chamber by sliding the pump action. Defendant attempted to load a round into the shotgun by sliding the pump. He pointed the weapon at the victim and appeared to pull the trigger, but the shotgun did not fire. Defendant again tried to load the weapon, which was still in the rack. This time, defendant was able to move the slide and Dunham heard the sound of a load entering the firing chamber of the shotgun. Officer Wrede crouched down behind the vehicle, still pointing his gun at defendant. Defendant then laid the shotgun on the roof of the vehicle and placed his hands on the roof of the vehicle, appearing to give up. Officer Wrede pointed his gun up, above the defendant, and started to walk around the vehicle when defendant picked up the shotgun and shot the officer in the head.”

Did Officer Wrede hesitate to fire because the suspect he made contact with was originally unarmed and after grabbing the shotgun, possessed a weapon that initially wouldn’t fire? Tragically, we don’t know why he hesitated to shoot when he had the opportunity to defend his life, but we know the outcome of his reluctance to fire. As we wrote about last year, and according to the FBI, since 2000, at least 57 police officers have been killed by their own weapons, which were taken away and used against them by suspects. So, again, the answer to the unnamed writer in the Times question is simple: if you take or attempt to take an officer's weapon, expect the officer to defend themselves.

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Comments (4)

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Phil Messina @ 5/21/2015 1:57 PM

The worst enemies of Law Enforcement Officers are first cousins.

Hesitancy and Complacency.

Phil Messina

Karen Wrede-Bledsoe @ 5/1/2016 6:52 PM

Once again you do not have all of the facts to pass any judgement on Officer Ken Wrede. I am his sister. I want to have the name of the person who wrote this article. Was it Randy Sutton? If you would like the entire story I will give it to you. You failed to mention ANY of the mistakes made that day by the POLICE DEPARTMENT that lead to my brothers' death!!!

Karen Wrede-Bledsoe @ 5/1/2016 6:54 PM

Message forwarded.

Leslie Pfeiffer @ 5/18/2016 1:28 PM

@Karen Wrede-Bledsoe. Contact the Los Angeles Police Protective League as they are the ones who wrote the article, not Randy Sutton.

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