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Yea its lookin pretty grim. If every one of the backers could pledge 100.00$ more dollars we would hit it today. Or if the europeans could own credit cards we would hit the mark also. I kow alot of euro's cant contribute yet wich is definetly not helping.

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Originally posted by Casca9226Yea its lookin pretty grim. If every one of the backers could pledge 100.00$ more dollars we would hit it today. Or if the europeans could own credit cards we would hit the mark also. I kow alot of euro's cant contribute yet wich is definetly not helping.

It's not as grim as it looks. All gaming kickstarters have a big push at beginning and end, with lull in middle.

All those regression curves are based off the lull in the middle. They don't account for the insane pushes lots of games see towards the end.

I did some research, and 30-40% push at end is pretty normal (last 3 or 4 days). (that's 600-800k)... which would have us hit exactly 2 M. Heck some had severall 100k pushes just in the LAST FEW HOURS.

But also once we hit 2 M paypal will get turned on, and get another big euro influx.

It'll take a lot of work for everyone over the next 2 weeks sure, but we'll get there.

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Originally posted by Tuktz

Originally posted by Casca9226Yea its lookin pretty grim. If every one of the backers could pledge 100.00$ more dollars we would hit it today. Or if the europeans could own credit cards we would hit the mark also. I kow alot of euro's cant contribute yet wich is definetly not helping.

It's not as grim as it looks. All gaming kickstarters have a big push at beginning and end, with lull in middle.

All those regression curves are based off the lull in the middle. They don't account for the insane pushes lots of games see towards the end.

I did some research, and 30-40% push at end is pretty normal (last 3 or 4 days). (that's 600-800k)... which would have us hit exactly 2 M. Heck some had severall 100k pushes just in the LAST FEW HOURS.

But also once we hit 2 M paypal will get turned on, and get another big euro influx.

It'll take a lot of work for everyone over the next 2 weeks sure, but we'll get there.

I think there is a good chance the Kickstarter will fund, but I don't know if the reason why is what CSE is looking for. I am predicting that the core backers who are really excited for this game are going to flip the bill and garantee that the Kickstarter makes it. That should allow for the developement of CU, but the studio might interpret the smaller number of backers as a bleak future for the game.

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I'm even more excited now that I saw the building and crafting stuff. But it's looking more and more bleak, even with the predicted rush at the end. I'm still going to reduce my pledge to $25 unless the first two stretch goals are met. I firmly believe those things should be in the game day1 regardless.

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Originally posted by drakon3I'm even more excited now that I saw the building and crafting stuff. But it's looking more and more bleak, even with the predicted rush at the end. I'm still going to reduce my pledge to $25 unless the first two stretch goals are met. I firmly believe those things should be in the game day1 regardless.

>.<

They're using kickstarter as a gauge of whether or not the interest for such a game is viable for development. They won't have stretch goals met and ready to be implemented by the close of kickstarter. You might as well just cancel if that's how you feel.

They're building the game as the kickstarter continues to generate additional hype and support; I would be extremely surprised if any of the ideas discussed thus far would be implemented in any form by the end of the kickstarter.

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stretch goals will be met from paypal donations, not regular kickstarter. I can't believe how much kickstarter makes out on this. they get a nice cut...

I bet you there is some insider trading going on when a project is close to funnding, it behooves? the company for it to fund so that they get their cut.I'm surprised they aren't pimping the shiz.. out of this game on their front page or doing extra advertising. I mean, for the huge cut they get.May as well push it...

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Originally posted by dantheman13

Originally posted by Tuktz

Originally posted by Casca9226Yea its lookin pretty grim. If every one of the backers could pledge 100.00$ more dollars we would hit it today. Or if the europeans could own credit cards we would hit the mark also. I kow alot of euro's cant contribute yet wich is definetly not helping.

It's not as grim as it looks. All gaming kickstarters have a big push at beginning and end, with lull in middle.

All those regression curves are based off the lull in the middle. They don't account for the insane pushes lots of games see towards the end.

I did some research, and 30-40% push at end is pretty normal (last 3 or 4 days). (that's 600-800k)... which would have us hit exactly 2 M. Heck some had severall 100k pushes just in the LAST FEW HOURS.

But also once we hit 2 M paypal will get turned on, and get another big euro influx.

It'll take a lot of work for everyone over the next 2 weeks sure, but we'll get there.

I think there is a good chance the Kickstarter will fund, but I don't know if the reason why is what CSE is looking for. I am predicting that the core backers who are really excited for this game are going to flip the bill and garantee that the Kickstarter makes it. That should allow for the developement of CU, but the studio might interpret the smaller number of backers as a bleak future for the game.

I dunno, I've seen a plethora of skepticm against the kickstarter, that people wouldn't have towards a game upon release.

I think a decent amount of people (40k - 60k) would play this at release, maybe more.

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Originally posted by Casca9226Yea its lookin pretty grim. If every one of the backers could pledge 100.00$ more dollars we would hit it today. Or if the europeans could own credit cards we would hit the mark also. I kow alot of euro's cant contribute yet wich is definetly not helping.

Yeah, it's 1900 and we poor turnip chomping Europeans only have groats and victuals to trade...

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Originally posted by Zinzan

Originally posted by Casca9226Yea its lookin pretty grim. If every one of the backers could pledge 100.00$ more dollars we would hit it today. Or if the europeans could own credit cards we would hit the mark also. I kow alot of euro's cant contribute yet wich is definetly not helping.

Yeah, it's 1900 and we poor turnip chomping Europeans only have groats and victuals to trade...

Where does this misconception come from?

Oh come on ... it's a known fact.

When my great granddad was shipped to the colony... he didn't bring any credit cards... so that proves it.

Other little known facts about Europe:

Prior to the last year of WWII it was all black and white and monochrome.

Colour was only introduced to Europe by Americans... along with (two wheeled) Motorcycles when Steve McQueen staged The Great Escape.

The Germans had Motorcycles up to that point - but only the three wheeled type (with sidecar). Interestingly what isn't known is that originally these three wheeled motorcycles were known as the carriers of the Reich. And since they had three wheels they were known as Drei-Reich to some germans... Unfortunately - they had to change the name - since the translation of "Drei-Reich" is "Tri-Realm" and they were scared they would be sued for Trade Mark infringement!

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Originally posted by Plastic-Metal

Originally posted by drakon3I'm even more excited now that I saw the building and crafting stuff. But it's looking more and more bleak, even with the predicted rush at the end. I'm still going to reduce my pledge to $25 unless the first two stretch goals are met. I firmly believe those things should be in the game day1 regardless.

>.<

They're using kickstarter as a gauge of whether or not the interest for such a game is viable for development. They won't have stretch goals met and ready to be implemented by the close of kickstarter. You might as well just cancel if that's how you feel.

They're building the game as the kickstarter continues to generate additional hype and support; I would be extremely surprised if any of the ideas discussed thus far would be implemented in any form by the end of the kickstarter.

You completely missed the point of my post. You act like I didn't read anything about CU before pledging...I'm not stupid. I wasn't saying it had to coded and working by the end of kickstarter. I personally feel the extra classes/races and the depths should be in the game on RELEASE day 1 regardless.

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I apologize if you feel I misunderstood your post, but saying, "I'm still going to reduce my pledge to $25 unless the first two stretch goals are met." implies that unless the first two stretch goals are met by the end of the kickstarter you'll be reducing your pledge, as you won't be able to reduce it before the game is actually released; you won't be able to increase it, either.

I agree with you that The Depths should be within the game on release day.. as much success as Darkness Falls was in DAoC, CSE would be traveling down the wrong path without it; or without implementing it within the first few months of release.

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Originally posted by Zinzan

Originally posted by Casca9226Yea its lookin pretty grim. If every one of the backers could pledge 100.00$ more dollars we would hit it today. Or if the europeans could own credit cards we would hit the mark also. I kow alot of euro's cant contribute yet wich is definetly not helping.

Yeah, it's 1900 and we poor turnip chomping Europeans only have groats and victuals to trade...

Where does this misconception come from?

Germans do have less credit cards than in the UK and a number of shops don't accept them, well Visa anyway. Having said that, I seemed to manage to pledge to Elite using a mere debit card which everyone bar children and those too poor to be thinking of pledging have.

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Meh, don't know about this one, they would need 3,752 more people new to kickstart in $155.18 just to make goal. That's not counting the trolls that probably tier'd into the $10,000 marks just to drop out the final day (happens every time on these) so sadly I dont see it happening.

I go back again to my comment that he should have had a better concept starting out and a better vision also a better written kickstarter.

"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"

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Originally posted by RefMinor

Originally posted by Zinzan

Originally posted by Casca9226Yea its lookin pretty grim. If every one of the backers could pledge 100.00$ more dollars we would hit it today. Or if the europeans could own credit cards we would hit the mark also. I kow alot of euro's cant contribute yet wich is definetly not helping.

Yeah, it's 1900 and we poor turnip chomping Europeans only have groats and victuals to trade...

Where does this misconception come from?

Germans do have less credit cards than in the UK and a number of shops don't accept them, well Visa anyway. Having said that, I seemed to manage to pledge to Elite using a mere debit card which everyone bar children and those too poor to be thinking of pledging have.

you do realize that this cc=credit card=all digital cards is bullshit that spin out of control, 95 or cards are debit and you need to be retarded to even own a real "credit " card , actually every shop will accept normal debit card, and more and more refuses to accept credit card

and this whole misconception of digital card called cc should be stopped, not that it will

its as stupid as those adversitments, " get your life in shape get a credit card, never be late on payments again " they just leave out the fact that they will charge you gazilion for that

you need a job to own a credit card, but you need to be a mess in life to need one, and credit card isnt real card we use, that one would be called debit card, or just payment card if its not internet shoping enabled

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Originally posted by Smikis

you do realize that this cc=credit card=all digital cards is bullshit that spin out of control, 95 or cards are debit and you need to be retarded to even own a real "credit " card , actually every shop will accept normal debit card, and more and more refuses to accept credit card

and this whole misconception of digital card called cc should be stopped, not that it will

its as stupid as those adversitments, " get your life in shape get a credit card, never be late on payments again " they just leave out the fact that they will charge you gazilion for that

you need a job to own a credit card, but you need to be a mess in life to need one, and credit card isnt real card we use, that one would be called debit card, or just payment card if its not internet shoping enabled

The risk of using a debit card is SIGNIFICANTLY higher than using a credit card. A debit card takes funds directly out of your checking account, which can be bad if someone gets your info. Credit cards on the other hand are against a line of credit. Providing you pay your entire bill every month, credit cards are a better and safer option.

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Originally posted by drakon3

Originally posted by Smikis

you do realize that this cc=credit card=all digital cards is bullshit that spin out of control, 95 or cards are debit and you need to be retarded to even own a real "credit " card , actually every shop will accept normal debit card, and more and more refuses to accept credit card

and this whole misconception of digital card called cc should be stopped, not that it will

its as stupid as those adversitments, " get your life in shape get a credit card, never be late on payments again " they just leave out the fact that they will charge you gazilion for that

you need a job to own a credit card, but you need to be a mess in life to need one, and credit card isnt real card we use, that one would be called debit card, or just payment card if its not internet shoping enabled

The risk of using a debit card is SIGNIFICANTLY higher than using a credit card. A debit card takes funds directly out of your checking account, which can be bad if someone gets your info. Credit cards on the other hand are against a line of credit. Providing you pay your entire bill every month, credit cards are a better and safer option.

This, plus you do not need a job to own a credit card, where did you get that from?

95% are debit cards? That's crap.

Most sensible people also use credit cards over debit cards as it gives then a credit rating as well, debit cards do not.

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Originally posted by Smikis

you do realize that this cc=credit card=all digital cards is bullshit that spin out of control, 95 or cards are debit and you need to be retarded to even own a real "credit " card , actually every shop will accept normal debit card, and more and more refuses to accept credit card

and this whole misconception of digital card called cc should be stopped, not that it will

its as stupid as those adversitments, " get your life in shape get a credit card, never be late on payments again " they just leave out the fact that they will charge you gazilion for that

you need a job to own a credit card, but you need to be a mess in life to need one, and credit card isnt real card we use, that one would be called debit card, or just payment card if its not internet shoping enabled

You cannot be serious. You do realize that a really high number of people use and in some cases require credit cards. Pretty much anybody who travels for their company or job requires a credit card for, airline tickets, hotels, rental cars, and the list goes on. My biggest business trip this year was 3.5 weeks in Nevada I racked up over 8,000 dollars in expenses, expenses reimbursed by my company but only after I return and file the correct peperwork. There is no way i am taking 8 grand out of my checking account to cover work related travel, not to mention hotels and rental cars lock down a ton of cash in your acocunt if you attempt to use a debit card.

On top of my reimbursed travel my credit card gives me pretty amazing points, combine the CC points with the hotel and airline points and I go on free vacations every year.

Your entire post could not be more wrong. As for the mess in life nonsense my entire account balance is paid monthly, it is a major contributior to my really high credit rating and the reason I qualify for and use a black card.

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Regardless, this is going to be an interesting last few days. Can't believe they only have 9,300 backers at this point. That's quite frankly terrible. They have to hope for a huge surge at the end like some other MMO games.