No meaningful talks? Israel has tried and tried again to come to a peaceful resolution but the Middle East is full of war-hungry animal nations. Israel is the last bastion of real civilization we have in that area.

Tapatalking from my bed. Ya mutha says hi.

That's right. No meaningful talks whatsoever. While Israel is "talking" they're busy annexing more and more of Palestine. They throw the Palestinians out of their homes by bulldozing their homes to the ground to make way for their own citizens. When the Palestinians rightfully retaliate, they respond with more force. Israel is hardly "civilized". Iran is more civilized than Israel.

Israel should go all out gloves off, but of course the world will condemn them. Big deal boo hoo the world majority hates israel no matter what they do so screw it.
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Muslim son of hamas leader turned mossad agent speaks against islam.Islam-Ex Muslim., Allah is a Gangster,watch this you will leave Islam

"It looks like from the outside that Islam is growing but in 10 years, Islam is gonna be over." you're talking about this clown?

and then this guy is talking about how the imaams use part of the Quran as a political means...which I can agree to but then he says that Islam is the most bi-polar religion on earth...which makes no sense because Islam is the only religion out there (or to my knowledge) that specifically condemns the killing of innocents such as women, children, unarmed combatants, elders, religious places and livestock. You can only use force in case of defense. Pre-emptive strike is not allowed.

If the guy wants to prove this then why not give specific examples? Everything they're saying is pretty much vague in the entire video. He says that Quran contradicts itself in that respect and yet gives no example.

Proceeds to talk about a comment said by the Prophet, "whoever changes his religion, kill him." Which is completely taken out of context as it was a tool being used back in the war times by Jews to confuse and demoralize Muslims. In fact, in Quran it says, "There is no compulsion in religion." and has many other passages saying that you can't force religion on anyone.

Rest of that crap is vague, he's just throwing baseless rhetorics.

But nice try, I almost became an atheist.

And what is the point of that next video? That this guy is paid to pull all this crap? Thanks for letting us know.

Really dude, if he had some legitimate things to say, I would love to listen. I've been a critique of Islam myself and I'm glad that I was asked all these questions by others or I would've never tried finding them myself or wouldn't know much about Islam myself.

Bull$#@!, they did not attack Israelis. The UN decided to give the land to Jews, it wasn't a partition. Partition implies that the Jews had already lived there. They did not. Not to mention, just because pieces of crap UN decides to give it to Jews, it still does not make it legal. If UN "legally" decides to give half of US to another group, the US isn't going to accept that.

Back to the attack, Israelis attacked the Palestinians and drove them out while killing thousands. Have you not been listening to anything I've said? Another clue would be that the video is from Zionist supporters. Propaganda.

Are you a Zionist? Because if you notice, all of the crap you've been posting is directly/indirectly supported by Zionists whereas I've been giving you stuff that is either third party or from peaceful JEWS THEMSELVES!

Are you a Zionist? Either you are a Zionist or you support their terrorist cause. No difference.

alright now you're just trolling. Israel's Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs? In other words, the official douche bag that gets paid tons of Zionist money to damage control? Wow dude, you are hilarious.

Some people just dont like to hear the truth. Everything in those videos is true. I like how people dismiss it as "propaganda" because someone jewish is speaking but al jazeera and press tv isn't. Those are a bunch facts that are disputable.

The muslim countries started a war with israel in 1948. 5 countries against the jews
"In addition to the local irregular Palestinians militia groups. The five Arab states that joined the war were Egypt, Jordan(Transjordan), Syria, Lebanon and Iraq sending expeditionary forces of their regular armies. Additional contingents came from Saudi Arabia and Yemen."
Yeah i'm a zionist and proud to be one. I've even been to israel on birthright. *Gasp*

Some people just dont like to hear the truth. Everything in those videos is true.

The muslim countries started a war with israel in 1948. 5 countries against the jews
"In addition to the local irregular Palestinians militia groups. The five Arab states that joined the war were Egypt, Jordan(Transjordan), Syria, Lebanon and Iraq sending expeditionary forces of their regular armies. Additional contingents came from Saudi Arabia and Yemen."
Yeah i'm a zionist and proud to be one. I've even been to israel on birthright. *Gasp*

yea I figured as much. You sounded like a terrorist from the beginning.

Before World War Two, Haganah had been, from the British viewpoint, a terrorist organisation that used violence to defend the Jewish Agency. Haganah attacked Palestinian Arabs and aspects of British rule in Palestine. By the time Israel had gained its independence, Haganah was effectively the army for Israel.

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/israel_and_the_1948_war.htm

You think nothing happened before 1948 lol. There was a whole year of Zionist terrorism against Palestinians. Which resulted in the coalition war against Zionists.

YEHIDA MASSACRE: 13 December 1947: men of the Arab village of Yehiday (near Petah Tekva, the first Zionist settlement to be established) met at the local coffee house when they saw a British Army patrol enter the village, they were reassured especially that Jewish terrorists had murdered 12 Palestinians the previous day. The four cars stopped in front of the cafe house and out stepped men dressed in khaki uniforms and steel helmets. However, it soon became apparent that they had not come to protect the villagers. With machine guns they sprayed bullets into the crowd gathered in the coffee house. Some of the invaders placed bombs next to Arab homes while other disguised terrorists tossed grenades at civilians. For a while it seemed as if the villagers would be annihilated but soon a real British patrol arrived to foil the well organized killing raid. The death toll of 7 Arab civilians could have been much higher. Earlier the same day 6 Arabs were killed and 23 wounded when home made bombs were tossed at a crowd of Arabs standing near the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem. In Jaffa another bomb
killed six more Arabs and injured 40

KHISAS MASSACRE: 18 December 1947: Two carloads of Haganah terrorists drove through the village of Khisas (on the Lebanese Syrian border) firing machine guns and throwing grenades. 10
Arab civilians were killed in the raid.

- QAZAZA MASSACRE: 19 December 1947: 5 Arab children were

murdered when Jewish terrorists blew up the house of the village Mukhtar.

AL-SHEIKH VILLAGE MASSACRE: 1 January 1948: On that night around two hundred Zionists armed with hand grenades and

machine guns sneaked into a small village called al-Shaikh village (5km South East of Haifa). The attackers came through the southern hills (most possibly from Nisher Jewish settlement which lies about 5Km south of the village). They attacked the houses on the edges of the village with hand-grenades and finished off with machine-guns killing around 40 of the Palestinians inhabitants of the village, mostly women and
children.

Thanks to Kwes for the signature!
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If you want to go that far back then do understand that it was the British and French wanted to control Syria and Zionists were in on it. That's when they started the idea of invading Palestine. They attacked Syria first.

EDIT: At this point I'm done with you. I can't believe I tried actually reasoning with you and was advising you to care about others and to look away from conflict, knowing now that you're a Zionist.

You've shown not only your ignorance about the rest of the world, but also blindly following of a fascist cult, childishness, likely lack of higher education and last but not least your unchanging extremist views.

In every muslim country that had a revolution / election, the muslims always vote for the biggest, baddest, ugliest terrorist and thats wrong. Gaza elected hamas ,west bank elected abbas (fatah is just as bad as hamas), egypt elected morsi (muslim brotherhood), ect. You've gotta admit yassir arafat was hiddeous and pure evil.

Except all those that were the result of Islam conquering and indoctrinating entire populations during the middle ages starting around 600 AD. How about Argentina and Brazil and the rest of the 'new world'? How about your own country, the British and various packs of other Europeans turn up and decide to create a new country where one clearly already existed. Differing circumstances of course but if you deny Isreal then in the interest of fairness your idea of legitimate states must be very small. At least the jews have an actual claim to that land.

No meaningful talks? You mean like how Israel lived side by side with the Palestinians for years until the Palestinians staged a rebellion and started killing people? That's what led to the creation of the Gaza strip, if you know any history.... And the people of Israel had lived on that land for hundreds of years before being forceably uprooted, so they came back to land they used to own and that some nomadic people had also settled on. Again, they just lived side by side until those people started killing folk. By your logic the English shouldn't own their island either. It should belong to the Vikings, etc. America shouldn't exist, most nations shouldn't exist by that logic. Israel is the only modern day repatriation of a people to their traditional land and territory that I'm aware of but bottom line, that's all it was.

I'd just like to add that I apparently quoted the wrong post in my post here. Also, I don't have any deep knowledge or interest in the issue, but am bothered by all the violence over the issue as well as bothered by those who advocate further violence to "resolve" the problem. I'll admit as well that what I know and have seen of this issue is colored by what I've seen and read in various media sources, which is not the same as being there and KNOWING what's going on. Still, it seems to me that people ought to be able to live together. There was peace and integration between Israeli's and Palestinians at one time, but that unfortunately dissolved into the current morass. I really wonder if most of the common people in Israel and among the Palestinians aren't much like the majority of us ourselves when our governments do something where we really don't see what the big deal is? I wonder if those common people would have any problem whatsoever getting along if the "people in charge" weren't making such a big deal of things and getting people killed? I wonder...

At this time there have been wrongs committed on both sides. I don't see how this will ever be resolved and that's very unfortunate. The middle east is likely to end up being the cause of yet another global conflict like we had with WWI and WWII and I don't see how it can be stopped at this point. I hope it can though.

Yes I figured that much. You and a few others here don't have much knowledge about the conflict. But at least your views aren't extremist, just ill-informed.

No they were not living peacefully alongside one another, that never happened.

Palestine was taken by force by the Zionists, after the UN gave part of to the Israelis. In the end, I think Jews deserve half of that land but the Zionists (fascists) don't deserve to destroy and keep taking the Palestinian land, that was never part of the agreement. An illegal agreement to begin with.

Yes there has been violence on both sides and I wish it'd stop because I care for all innocent people out there.

@MossadAgent, you know, your name says it all but just letting you know that the Mossad and Zionists are just as bad and violent. and ugly since you had mentioned that as well.