If they are using water from the big muddy to make that beer they did a lot of people a big favor!The locals can't taste it or enjoy the taste since they were raised with it but I hate it. Every time I travel that way I always seem to stop in the area for a piss break and to get something to drink, and every time you taste that muddy flavor.

AverageAmericanGuy:Canning is taking off in a big way. The cans stack better, prevent light from affecting the beer, and they recycle better than bottles.

Too bad some people have to steal canning machines.

Yep, plus cans are now lined with organic liners which prevent the beer from ever contacting metal so you don't get the nasty metallic taste. A couple of our local brewers (Sly Fox, Six Point) have started focusing heavily on canning.

scubamage:AverageAmericanGuy: Canning is taking off in a big way. The cans stack better, prevent light from affecting the beer, and they recycle better than bottles.

Too bad some people have to steal canning machines.

Yep, plus cans are now lined with organic liners which prevent the beer from ever contacting metal so you don't get the nasty metallic taste. A couple of our local brewers (Sly Fox, Six Point) have started focusing heavily on canning.

Funny how Keystone, that pisswater of a beer, was using lined cans like this years ago. If it were only a better beer doing this, we could have had canned microbrews years ago, instead of the skunky bottled micros we have now.

I know the man in that picture. He died not long ago. He posted a heartwrenching video online shortly before he died about his struggles with his weight and basically how he knew it was going to cost him his life. He was a giant man with a giant heart.

AverageAmericanGuy:scubamage: AverageAmericanGuy: Canning is taking off in a big way. The cans stack better, prevent light from affecting the beer, and they recycle better than bottles.

Too bad some people have to steal canning machines.

Yep, plus cans are now lined with organic liners which prevent the beer from ever contacting metal so you don't get the nasty metallic taste. A couple of our local brewers (Sly Fox, Six Point) have started focusing heavily on canning.

Funny how Keystone, that pisswater of a beer, was using lined cans like this years ago. If it were only a better beer doing this, we could have had canned microbrews years ago, instead of the skunky bottled micros we have now.

A lot of that is because micros aren't using the right bottles. You'd think they'd know that much before getting into the industry though. Brown is the only color, period (unless you can find blue glass but good luck. Green like rolling rock, or clear? Welcome to skunk city, population: your beer.

roadkillontheweb:If they are using water from the big muddy to make that beer they did a lot of people a big favor!The locals can't taste it or enjoy the taste since they were raised with it but I hate it. Every time I travel that way I always seem to stop in the area for a piss break and to get something to drink, and every time you taste that muddy flavor.

Can't speak for the Quad Cities, but Memphis gets its water from artesian wells.

scubamage:AverageAmericanGuy: scubamage: AverageAmericanGuy: Canning is taking off in a big way. The cans stack better, prevent light from affecting the beer, and they recycle better than bottles.

Too bad some people have to steal canning machines.

Yep, plus cans are now lined with organic liners which prevent the beer from ever contacting metal so you don't get the nasty metallic taste. A couple of our local brewers (Sly Fox, Six Point) have started focusing heavily on canning.

Funny how Keystone, that pisswater of a beer, was using lined cans like this years ago. If it were only a better beer doing this, we could have had canned microbrews years ago, instead of the skunky bottled micros we have now.

A lot of that is because micros aren't using the right bottles. You'd think they'd know that much before getting into the industry though. Brown is the only color, period (unless you can find blue glass but good luck. Green like rolling rock, or clear? Welcome to skunk city, population: your beer.

I think you've got your facts mixed up a bit. Blue is better than clear, but worse than green.

GORDON:Can't speak for the Quad Cities, but Memphis gets its water from artesian wells.

Everything is artisan these days isn't it? Artisan bread, artisan cheese, artisan freeking donuts. What did we do before we had all this artisan stuff? We just had WATER, plain old water and it never did anyone any harm and it was good enough for us.

whatshisname:GORDON: Can't speak for the Quad Cities, but Memphis gets its water from artesian wells.

Everything is artisan these days isn't it? Artisan bread, artisan cheese, artisan freeking donuts. What did we do before we had all this artisan stuff? We just had WATER, plain old water and it never did anyone any harm and it was good enough for us.

I like where you're going with your argument, but artisan water really is a thing.

An artesian aquifer is a confined aquifer containing groundwater under positive pressure.

Let's see, we have a high speed, stainless steel machine with tight tolerances that isn't used in big enough lots for true mass production(of the machine itself), that has to be rated for food use, easy to clean, probably with lots of little parts, and you're surprised it's expensive?

A computer CPU can run multiple thousands 'per pound'. Same with most of the chip level components in your computer. Think of this thing like the 'CPU' of the factory.

The sad part? It's probably going to be sold as scrap by some meth heads for like $1k.

Mean. You are messing with beer, man! And it's a low profit labor of love business! WTF.

Cans are like mini kegs. They protect the beer better than bottles. Zero light, almost no O2, they are easier to recycle, lighter to ship, and stack/ store easier than bottles.O2 can actually fuse into beer under the crown caps - especially during temp fluctuations. Twist caps are the worst, then crown caps. Beer will skunk (become light struck) almost instantly in clear bottles, within minutes in blue bottles & green, and slowly over time in brown.

My one gripe with cans is that they are often lined with a petroleum based epoxy and the product contains Bisphenol A, or BPA.