I'm a bit confused that they are pushing both an MP and a non-MP line of movie toys all of a sudden. perhaps this is a clear sign that the visual aesthetic of the movies are about to drastically change and they are making the most of the first 5 before everyone ignores their existence for the rest of time.

I am a little sad if that's the case, I really want an MP blackout amongst other things. The image shows what is likely a leader blackout foot and possibly a new ratchet.

I'm a bit confused that they are pushing both an MP and a non-MP line of movie toys all of a sudden. perhaps this is a clear sign that the visual aesthetic of the movies are about to drastically change and they are making the most of the first 5 before everyone ignores their existence for the rest of time.

I am a little sad if that's the case, I really want an MP blackout amongst other things. The image shows what is likely a leader blackout foot and possibly a new ratchet.

You never know the future of the movie designs but this new movie line was suspected with the Ďlets give the old molds one last great decoí Takara movie ďBestĒ lines. Plenty of encores and older figures get 1 last hurrah followed by a new version within 12 months.

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After 10 years, the fandom seems to be bored with Movie toys at the moment... and kinda need a break (which we won't get while they are wanting to pump out a new movie each year for a while).
With TakaraTomy doing a heap of Movie Best toys at premium prices (with several more to go), and a few expensive Masterpiece toys from both companies... do we really need another 20 premium/expensive Movie toys? Who's going to buy them all. The general public will be having cheaper TF5 and Bumblebee movie toys clogging the shelves for the next 12-18 months while these premium figures are being released, so they won't be the target market... and discerning collectors already have their wallets drained with Generations, Masterpiece and premium JP Movie toys (not to mention 3P products).
I just don't see these doing well at all, especially if they end up being TRU exclusives, who will make them even more expensive than they need to be.

After 10 years, the fandom seems to be bored with Movie toys at the moment... and kinda need a break (which we won't get while they are wanting to pump out a new movie each year for a while).
With TakaraTomy doing a heap of Movie Best toys at premium prices (with several more to go), and a few expensive Masterpiece toys from both companies... do we really need another 20 premium/expensive Movie toys? Who's going to buy them all. The general public will be having cheaper TF5 and Bumblebee movie toys clogging the shelves for the next 12-18 months while these premium figures are being released, so they won't be the target market... and discerning collectors already have their wallets drained with Generations, Masterpiece and premium JP Movie toys (not to mention 3P products).
I just don't see these doing well at all, especially if they end up being TRU exclusives, who will make them even more expensive than they need to be.

I don't think fandom is bored with Movie toys, I think we are not happy with what Hasbro is doing and this concept (although we still don't really know the full story) seems to be continuing the problem of too many toys of the same characters/designs (some of which are now 10 years old) instead of more original things.

I suspect the TLK line would have been better received if they'd put some effort into new toys/characters rather than repainting a bunch of AOE toys and giving collectors only a few actual new toys (two of which are the same guy - Megatron) instead of robots like Mohawk, Onslaught, Daytrader, Trench, Canopy, WW2 Bumblebee, WW2 Hot Rod, the WW2 Jet, the WW2 Tank etc.

I do get it though that the 11 year olds who saw Transformers at the cinema are now 21 year olds ready to buy premium/new versions so maybe it's more of a case of we (us older G1 fans) aren't the audience for these?

I do get it though that the 11 year olds who saw Transformers at the cinema are now 21 year olds ready to buy premium/new versions so maybe it's more of a case of we (us older G1 fans) aren't the audience for these?

I don't think fandom is bored with Movie toys, I think we are not happy with what Hasbro is doing and this concept (although we still don't really know the full story) seems to be continuing the problem of too many toys of the same characters/designs (some of which are now 10 years old) instead of more original things.

I suspect the TLK line would have been better received if they'd put some effort into new toys/characters rather than repainting a bunch of AOE toys and giving collectors only a few actual new toys (two of which are the same guy - Megatron) instead of robots like Mohawk, Onslaught, Daytrader, Trench, Canopy, WW2 Bumblebee, WW2 Hot Rod, the WW2 Jet, the WW2 Tank etc.

Yep - TLK represents by far the least expenditure on toys Iíve made from the 5 flicks for exactly the above reasons. Iíve got Prime & Bbee from the last 4 movies - I donít need or want them from yet another one. What I DO want are characters like Mowhawk.

And itís so silly they have toys for characters that werenít even in ANY of the flicks like the raptor dinobot (who first appeared in the AoE toy line) but none of ones like whoever the rusted Combi Con was.