PREGAME NOTES: Lincecum feels good the day after 148; Bochy eyes third All-Star catcher

Tim Lincecum never ices his arm, but Bruce Bochy had a request last night. “I said, one time, can you ice it?”

Lincecum stuck with his routine.

“Nope, no ice,” he said, smiling. “Not even in the drinks I didn’t have last night.”

Lincecum said he feels great today, hours after throwing 148 pitches in a no-hitter. He planned to play catch to test things out, but there are no concerns.”

Lincecum talked to his dad last night and then stayed up late watching movies with his girlfriend and dogs. Today he arrived at his normal time and got a quick workout in. Lincecum said he does feel he is a different pitcher now, someone capable of dominating without a mid-90’s fastball. But he still would like to think he’s a power pitcher, and the 13 strikeouts last night attest to that.

“I’ve got to treat myself like that,” he said.
Bochy will reveal his full second-half rotation after the game, but it sounds like Lincecum will be fourth. The Giants would like to get him an extra day of rest. When Lincecum takes the mound, it’s a good bet Buster Posey will be back there. Hey Timmy, thoughts on that “feud” …

“Yeah, it looked like we were so angry at each other when he picked me up on the mound,” Lincecum said, smiling.

— Bochy has no regrets about letting Lincecum approach 150: “You let the dog run,” he said. “There’s no way I could have taken that kid out. He was still going strong. I felt he was having a night where everything was going well.”

— You might have noticed that Bochy now uses Gregor Blanco in left field and Andres Torres in center when they’re playing together. Bochy said Torres feels much more comfortable in center, so this makes the team better.

“I’m doing it for Andres,” Bochy said. “Now you’ve got two guys in positions where they are comfortable. Andres doesn’t see the ball quite as well in left field.”

Bochy has said in the past he thinks left may be harder to play than center in a lot of parks because of the angle off the bat. Torres hasn’t had many issues in center, but he has had some really rough nights in left.

— Bochy needs to replace Freddie Freeman (thumb) on the N.L. roster and is leaning toward picking a third catcher. Yadier Molina is a bit banged up and Bochy doesn’t want to wear Posey down. Bochy said the N.L. was in that situation in 2011.

“I’ve got to be concerned with the situation behind the plate,” he said. “Nothing would be more embarrassing in an All-Star Game than running out of catchers.”

(Pitchers, maybe? We’ve been through that before …)

Bochy said he considered Hunter Pence, Jay Bruce and Ian Desmond (notice a missing player?) for Freeman’s spot but is now working on identifying a catcher. Given what happened in 2011, I think Brian McCann is probably the front runner.

— Pence and Posey are the first Giants to drive in five runs in back-to-back games since Chili Davis and Chris Speier in 1987.

“That was pretty sweet,” Pence said. “That’s the first good game I’ve had in about a month.”

C’mon, Barry, be inspired by what Lincecum did last night. Channel your inner Cy Young & get us a 4th straight win.

stickman

Yesterday all the offense came from the PPPB 3-6 positions in the lineup. Encouraged that today’s effort vs being stultified by the Pad’s lefty exploded at the go-go with Torres’ triple followed by Scutaro’s single. When the entire lineup contributes teams are usually pretty successful. That 6-9 array kinda scares me today, but maybe one or two of them can come through.

avwh

Just a 1-3-6-1-4 typical pickoff putout. 😉

Followed by a Denorfia blast. 🙁

And it’s all tied.

Dwreck

How many new threads are gonna be put up today? Sheesh, tough to keep up! Good thing Zeets got cabrera before that homerun! Let’s go zito you need to bear down today.

Lefty

Stick: “stultified…” niiiice. LOL

Sam

Sam says:
July 14th, 2013 at 1:27 pm
I would get someone warming up in the pen right now
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What is Bochy waiting for?

Polioptila Veintiocho

The question now is: Will his arm just fall off, or will they amputate?

avwh

Frenchy looks like a RH Panda, as far as free swinging, but making intact way out of the strike zone.

Abreu just missed a 2-run jack – foul by a foot or so.

avwh

Contact, not “intact”. D*mn auto-correct…

ClutchUp

Sam: my answer from your question on other side?

Because that was out of character for Totalfan but its not out of character for tou.

You may not hate the Giants but you ARE anti Giants. Like The Oracle has said you are funny and know your stuff which only makes you a funny TROLL who knows his stuff but nevertheless a TROLL none the less.

But that’s not news to you because you’ve always known you’re a TROLL and the Merc IT underlings told the world about your other proclivities which is well known. The fact that they removed the italics in bold doesn’t matter as many regulars read it before they removed it.

Go Giants (something you have trouble saying)

totalfan62

Re-posting this comment from end of last thread, so that all can see it.

totalfan62 says: July 14th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

Sam:

As for my post last night, my apologies. I seriously mean that.

Later on in last night’s thread you advised that the post that set me off was in reference to someone else’s earlier post. Since you did not reference that post, I took your comment “Padres have lost 15 of 16″ as taking something away from Timmy’s accomplishment.

I was euphoric, excited, and pumped, and should not have said that. I hope you can accept this apology and not continue to berate me.

Dwreck

Ok Abreu enough of that watching your homeruns like that cuz I don’t want Posey getting beaned cuz of you! Especially when it ended up just being a long strike!

Adam

DFA zito

Polioptila Veintiocho

Pity I could understand, but why would anybody hate the Grizzlies, especially after they’ve won three straight?

Sam

TF62:

I will put a moratorium on the “berating”

Polioptila Veintiocho

Torres reverts to form!

totalfan62

avwh: On Frenchy, that was his rap in Atlanta. Zero strike zone discipline, and tried to pull every pitch into the leftfield stands. Furthermore he was a bit whiny when the Braves began to platoon him due to lack of production.

Hopefully he’s learned to be more patient at the plate and be a good, professional teammate. This could be last chance time for him. He’s only 29, but it’s his ninth MLB campaign.

Sam

Clutch,

If I was anti Giants I would waste my time watching this team, following this blog, following Twitter.

I am anti mediocrity and anti scrubs. This is where guys like Belt and Huntrash spend too much time at for my liking.

Dwreck

Torres, how about shortening up your swing with two strikes and an RBI waiting at second? Way too much swing in that situation!

Doughnut

Adding a 3rd catcher makes the most sense. Kind of surprised they were already going to rely on Yadi and Buster to catch that many innings. McCann playing real well this year so good add if he does pick him.
Puig hasn’t played last two games so don’t see him playing but it wouldn’t surprise me if Magic and company try and lobby for him to get in just for the pub anyway.

Sam

Dougnut,

Baggs already confirmed addition of McCann

stickman

Nice AB by Quiroz in extending the count and drawing the walk. Stults @ 38 pitches through two with Scutaro leading off the third. Frenchy singling in his first SF AB was really sweet. Hope he can keep it up. Sometimes a change of scenery does wonders.

Now that both the top and bottom of the lineup did what they didn’t need to accomplish last night its time for the middle of the LU to get right back into the Timmygame groove.

Dwreck

Zitoooooo!!! Nooooooo!!!! what the trick man!

Ralphie

Can we get Z-Doh! out of this game while there’s still a chance to win it please?

Sam

Too bad Bochy didn’t listen to me when I said to get someone up after the first hit

Lefty

Oh, for Pete’s sake. Take him OUT. The whole staff should be available except MadBum and Timmy, and it would be nice to have a chance to win this game.

Polioptila Veintiocho

Zito comes through big time!

Adam

Zito is godawful. He needs a “phantom” 2 month dl stint…….rather see a rookie with an unknown ceiling get kicked around and possibly learn & improve than watching this clown try and “pitch”

I must give Sam props actually…if I recall, last night after the game he called the lead off hit by SD today.

I think when Z pitches in day games when there is no breeze, it increases the possibility of loud contact exponentially…

Sam

Matthew,

I also called a lead off hit against Zito after perfect game.

Polioptila Veintiocho

Nobody wants Frenchy to even consider taking a walk and, in any event, he never would.

totalfan62

Come on Zito, put up a clean inning. We can get this guy, and get the lead, if you can put up some zeroes!

Spot on Matthew–the ball is definitely flying today!

Dwreck

Tough inning should have gotten atleast one run back there…pence hit it hard normally a hit, but Jerk-o positioned perfectly…ok zeets, quick inning let’s hit again now!

Matthew

Dunning is ready, Bruce!

Time for the Cain-style hook….

Lefty

Sam: I also think calling out mediocrity is fair…I have more tolerance for Belt at $500K being inconsistent than Pence at $14 mil. If Belt doesn’t ever figure it out and they have a better option at some point, it’s easy enough to move on.

Love Pence’s attitude and hustle, but it’s hard to feel good about any kind of pricey new deal for him. That wouldn’t be a tough call for me, but I’m sensing it will be for Sabean.

totalfan62

So much for clean…

Good chance for Dunning to further impress his teammates and Giants Nation. Let’s do this, son!

Dwreck

Well it was a quick inning…for Zito! Hit the showers!

avwh

Zito wasn’t getting the outside corner to RH hitters at all from Diaz.
Glad to see Bochy pull him quickly. The ball is carrying at Petco today.

Lefty

Between-innings commercial: Does anyone else think Peyton Manning should be keeping his eyes on the road when driving through all of those hazards rather than talking to a camera about all the safety features of the Buick Verano?

BTW, on our last vacay, we had a rental Verano. Meh.

totalfan62

Lefty: I hear you on Pence, but my gut says he comes back from the A-S break with a strong second half. He’s playing for a contract, whether with us or another team, and he has to play better than he has so far, last night notwithstanding.

Lefty

TF62: I hope so, but it sure doesn’t seem like Pence’s struggles are for lack of trying or hard work.

totalfan62

I really wish pitchers would not twirl the ball in their free hand while standing on the rubber. If Dunning drops the ball, it’s a balk. It’s a bad habit that he should break.

Polioptila Veintiocho

It’s very discouraging that Bochy lacks faith in his ace. Zito deserved a chance to go all the way today!

TrainWreck

Good old reliable, trustworthy ZZZZZZZ, lighting it up again–for the other team. This guy pitches like someone who hopes to take his 7 mil buyout at the end of the year and never get another big league contract.

Sam

When Vogelsong comes back I wonder if the Giants DFA Zito or move him to the DL. At this point he is not better than Gaudin, and they don’t need another lefty in the pen. Could save face for Zito by stashing on DL until roster expands.

Polioptila Veintiocho

Bochy shows us the depth that these Grizzlies have in the pen!

Atlas

Well… changing pitchers hasn’t been a game changer so far.

Just wondering

Batting practice for a team that has proven it can’t hit. oh well

408svl

yup! zito stunk up the joint again. it is bad zito time again. and so is dunning.

Ed c

Dont think they will DFA Zito…you never know when you may need the arm and the potential innings…but he’s not very god right now

Dwreck

Well I guess Botchy is just gonna let this one get out of hand! Shame I thought we could sweep today and ride positivity into break

Polioptila Veintiocho

Perhaps Gnatt Cain could be a serviceable long reliever, presuming of course he doesn’t get lit up in the first inning of his stint

Sam

There’s your all star second baseman.

avwh

Zito shouldn’t start on the road again.

Scutaro just cost us one run at least – that was a tailor-made double play.

Sam: Like I said when I said you were on occassion funny and knew your stuff – you get an amazing amount of satisfaction when something you suggested or predicated comes true.

There are Giant fans who prepare for the worst but hope for the best and then there are FAN-Tasy fans like you who revel in almost any individualistic flaw that happens in ANY inning on the way to inning 9.

As far as you “wouldn’t be here” if you weren’t a fan … nice try! Others here had you pegged before I had ever heard of “Sam” (and all your other names that the IT underlings mentioned that night)

I know you’re proud of yourself. Last night before his offensive production you called Hunter – Huntrash and then he had some success and you went crickets on the blog. Then this morning you predicted the demise of Zito and you relished in it.

Those stickball games down under the bridge never prepared you for hitting off of a 90++++ fastball but that’s okay because once a troll always a troll.

The ONLY thing that you did NOT do last night was incessantly mentioning that Timmy was throwing a no hitter which shocks me because we know how much that would have fit your profile.

Again, Go Giants (something you have trouble saying)

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Bad concentration error by Scutaro; Trying to throw without a grip.

Dwreck

Yep scutaro cost us two runs there! Oh ok now Botchy pulls Dunning! what’s the point its 6-1, now he wants to manage!

SF Giants Tommy

Barry “take the wind outta my sails” Zito. Enough is enough.

ClutchUp

Might be a real NO NO hangover 😉

Did we win the next game after Cain’s Perfect Game?

After Durty’s No NO, did we win?

Ralphie

The Giants don’t have a long reliever right now, and with Gaudin in the rotation it’s coming back to bite them.

The right thing to do would be to DFA Zito and call up a Triple-A starter like Petit (who has been pitching really well lately) to serve as the long man in the second half.

kyle Perizi

I feel bad for Dunning .

Atlas

A comeback win heading into the break would be even better than an “easy” one. With a lot of innings left, there’s still a chance.

Sam

Mr. Clutch,

Congrats you have me figured all out. Come on down to collect your prize.

stickman

I’ve given Bochy innumerable props for his bullpen management abilities. This time, though, he messed up. Jake Dunning has promise as a young reliever, but one thing we knew already is that he has not yet crossed the treshold of becoming a fireman. We saw in a performance a couple nights back that Jose Mijares can do that job. Bruce probably demurred on that option because it was so early in the game. But the crisis was already upon us. At this stage in his career Dunning needs a clean start to an inning.

Bad management.

Atlas

Odd reading all these comments, written as though the team or any if its real fans) wants to lose this game. Same fans who gave up early in 2010 and 2012 then put on their gear before going to the parades.

Sam

Mr. Clutch,

Your obsession with me and “all my other names” is very unbecoming. Get a hold of yourself.

kyle Perizi

This game isn’t going well , but it still beats an ” Adam Sandler movie ” any day ( ” The Water boy ,” was good ) .

TrainWreck

A thudding, screaming, stench-filled, slap-in-the-face return to reality after the fun-filled fantasy of the last three days. Nice while it lasted!

Polioptila Veintiocho

“The Giants don’t have a long reliever right now, and with Gaudin in the rotation it’s coming back to bite them.”

They do have Gnatt Cain, if he can miraculously manage get out of the first.

Polioptila Veintiocho

Nice to see the offense back on track!

SurfCity

If Tanaka can play Left Field, Belt can play Left Field.

Just sayin’

ClutchUp

Sam: Your stymied when you know that CC and I have you pegged. I got back into your crud when you went sideways on Totalfan62 last night stirring it up and intentionally calling him toolfan. The jokes on you pal. You’re a TROLL who’s good at being a TROLL.

Just face up to it. Prizes not needed, but Lordy do you respect how hard it is to even play this game?

How many times did you wish last night that Lincecum would implode or that he would lose the no no so that you could post your petty crud.

You KNOW that parts also true. You’re not a Giant Fan.

You’re a Giant TROLL.

kyle Perizi

Oy vey …..

totalfan62

Normally three out of four on the road would be a victory, even given our play of late. Unfortunately, after the excellent play of the past three games this feels awful. It’s not just no-no hangover–it was a great first three games followed by some stinko baseball. Argh!

Dwreck

Kontos sucks…I would say trade him but nobody wants our garbage…send him down again for good!

choyboy0724

3 out of 4 is a success despite what some of you think or say. The giants need to start winning series and they did that this weekend, and they need to continue to do that after the break.

Polioptila Veintiocho

It just keeps getting better!

TrainWreck

You da’ man, Georgie!

Polioptila Veintiocho

My fellow Gnatfans should refrain from calling each other names!

Doughnut

How do you give up 3 HR in two innings at Petco. Aargh i thought Zito was going to pitch a good one today. Instead the road woes continue.
Now he might be fighting for a spot in the rotation.
Somebody is going to get the short end of the stick and Timmy made his case yesterday and Gaudin has been great.

Woj

Road Zito again. All season every game Zippo sux on the road. He is the biggest benefactor of pitching at spacious AT&T. The omly good pitch Zito has is that curveball. His powderpuff ‘fast’ball at 84 mph says hit me and 3 Padres did today. The cutter is a joke. Anyone wanting to sign this guy in 2013 in the Giants front office should be fired immediately.

totalfan62

I guess I missed the answer to the trivia quiz (five teams with multiple no-hitters since 2009): I got Giants and White Sox–who were the others?

Zito did suck today and the results probably would have been same as score is now, but he didn’t give up the four more tacked on. The starters have given bullpen a break last few days and now we call on pen and they let us down when we need them. It may be time to DFA Dunning, kontos and zito!

Woj

I wouldn’t lose any sleep whatsoever to see the headline ‘Giants DFA Barry Zito’ or ‘Giants trade Barry Zito for an AA prospect’ or ‘Giants trade Zito to fill in the blank team for 2 cans of ball mud’

With all the parallels to Cain’s perfect game, it makes sense Zito would come out and pitch like crap. Didn’t he give up a grand slam the next day? Anyway, I didn’t expect Zito to pitch well but I was really hoping the offense wouldn’t get shut down again. No such luck.

totalfan62

Clutch: Frenchy will be a big hit with the ladies as well. Major “swoonage” among the women MLB fans in the ATL.

Sam

Mr. Clutch,

Quit being an idiot. You are not a fukin moderator. TF said what he did and you got nothing to fukin say about it. I call him toolfan and you get a hard on for me. He apologized, I accepted, we moved on from it, so should you.

I enjoy the banter with you but if you prefer to get the CC treatment from me then that’s OK with me.

South City Jim

Thoughts on Zito:

1) He was bad today but Stults SZ was way bigger. He got some corners, Zito got none, also didn’t get a good curve ball right before the second HR by Hundley.

2) I would have left him in to face Denorfia. At least he had half a chance of holding Cabrera at 1B.

3) I don’t know if he has a tired arm or if he’s just done, but there’s no zip/movement on his pitches and the hard curve ball is completely missing from his repertoire.

4) Might be time for the phantom injury so he can go down to Fresno and figure something out. He’s not the same pitcher now that he was his first 10 or so starts. Pretty much a nightmare since Toronto. At this point, can’t start him on the road.

choyboy: you are correct. Players and fans need to flush this one, put in the rearview, take the four-day break to recharge, and be ready to play Arizona tough next weekend.

Put up a 7-3 homestand post ASB. Pick up a game a week on the division leader–no matter who that is–and we’re right back in it.

68 games after today–lots of baseball still to play.

Dwreck

I do love me some Bo Jack but that was random Clutch. Good lord kontos is getting lit up like a Christmas tree!

kyle Perizi

Let’s get 10 .

Sam

George Zimmerman is getting his gun back. I’m sure he could sell it for some good money. Lots of freaks out there like stuff like that.

ClutchUp

Sam says: July 14th, 2013 at 3:08 pm

WoW, is there where you’re true colors come out and you emulate all the other potty mouth posters that you either admire or actually are?

You know that version of “that word” you used is not allowed, but you choose to use it anyway. Does it make you swell with pride to be able to circumvent the real word. How immature is that.

Moderator? How about using common sense Sammy?

totalfan62

South City: good take on Zito. Not sure when Vogey is ready to come back, but when he is Zito could go on the DL as you say and work it out in Fresno/Scottsdale. Starters have to give us a chance to win. Zito’s not giving us that.

Polioptila Veintiocho

We gneed Gnatt Cain to keep this game within reach!

ClutchUp

Dwreck says: July 14th, 2013 at 3:16 pm I do love me some Bo Jack but that was random Clutch. Good lord kontos is getting lit up like a Christmas tree!

Dwreck: Yep, random is good cause Im on KNBR radio only while at work trying to phase todays play into better days ahead. 😉

totalfan62

Can we please have ONE inning where the Padres don’t score?

Not holding out hope that we’ll get that from Casilla. This could be like spring training.

Doughnut

SCJ

I noticed that 1-1 pitch to Hundley also. That changed a lot and who knows what would have happened. The ump missed the call but it wasn’t handled well by Q, he has missed a few calls on low strikes because he flops the glove down when he catches the low pitch and doesn’t give the ump a good look at it. It hurt Gaudin a few starts ago in ATL. I thought he corrected that, but there was no reason that curve shouldn’t be called a strike. Stults got that pitch even when it was off the corner.

It seems like Z isn’t throwing the cutter as much and not really locating it that well lately. That seemed like a big part of the equation when he was going well and he isn’t featuring it as much.
Also the Padres have a lot of pent up frustration and really wanted this one. It was going to be tough for anybody.

totalfan62

Troll rule: do not acknowledge the troll in any way. Do not reply, do not comment on their posts, do not repeat their name (actual or revised), do not give them any of the attention they so desperately crave.

South City Jim

totalfan62, they could probably afford to give Zito one of the early starts at home after the break then send him down once Vogey’s ready. There’s a couple of off days so they could probably get close to August 1 and only have him make one start. I think they’d need a 5th starter at least once in there. Unless Surkamp is ready, then he could go. Just don’t know what’s up with Zito but as I said in ST, to be effective on a consistent basis he needs 84 MPH on his fastball with the ability to occasionally show 85-86. Right now he’s topping out at 83 MPH. Not even Maddux had enough command to get by with that. Too bad he didn’t get the ump that Bum had on Thursday. Maybe with an extra 6-8 inches of width he could have done something. Oh well.

kyle Perizi

Is Bartolo Colon going to be suspended or is he off the hook regarding Biogenesis ?

South City Jim

Doughnut, also, don’t think it wasn’t a coincidence that the HRs were all hit by guys that didn’t play yesterday. Zito got no collateral advantage from following Timmy.

Irony

It’s funny that Totalfan is the one to post the troll rule. He told a poster to shove it up his A$$ last night.

totalfan62

Attaboy Santiago Casilla. Good way to start your comeback.

Casilla and Rosario as righty options in front of Romo, with Mijares, Lopez (LOOGY) and Affeldt as lefties, leaves one bullpen spot to fill.

Sam

“Go Giants”

kyle Perizi

These Padre uniforms are cool .

South City Jim

If Zito does go to Fresno, Torres can go with him.

Sam

Go Giants

Matthew

TF62, you are right about trying to ignore trolls…then his 3:17 to incite people. It’s so unfortunate that small minded people get such satisfaction out of simply causing anger and anxiety.

I am also with you and ChoyBoy… I have seen so many positives the last 3 days that I am still energized going into the break…hey, I will gladly take 3 out of 4 the rest of the way… We do that, we get to the post season. Yup, so many positives:

Timmy, The Brandon’s, steady Posey, steady Scutaro, Pablo, Pence, Blanco, Tanaka, Mad Bum, Mijares, Romo…almost the whole team has come back together and shaken the funk.

We come back and face AZ, so let’s make some noise!

Sam

Go Giants!

Doughnut

How hard was Casilla throwing in mph? Missed it. I watched one game in SJ and his velocity was down and he wasn’t fooling anybody.

Lefty

I wish Bochy would let Buster, Scoots, & maybe Pence have a couple innings off. Keep Blanco in the game and put in Belt and Crawford.

Sam

Amy G in NY with ALL Star reports. Can’t wait

kyle Perizi

Whenever I’m in SD I tend to over indulge in the Abalone offerings .

totalfan62

kyle Perizi says: July 14th, 2013 at 3:37 pm

These Padre uniforms are cool .
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Kyle: I like them too. I think I like their earlier version (circa 2010?), that had a bigger camo pattern and was a bit less like the military version. The Padres wore hunter green caps with them, and looked very fashionable. But this one’s pretty cool too, as you say.

Irony

Sam is not inciteful, but is insightful.

Matthew

Sam is not insightful, but spiteful.

TrainWreck

Darn you Casilla. I was really hoping to see the Padres score in every inning.

stickman

To be a bit consistent and with the game long outta reach, Bochy should have replaced Buster with Belt at 1B. If something happened to Quiroz Sandoval would still be capable of squeezing into the tools. Must be Bruce wanted to get Posey one more AB in a meaningless game.

Go Gnats! Back home for the break, likely to be the season’s high point!

Lefty

Woj: Add to that how bad Vogelsong was before he was injured & four late meltdowns in June for Affeldt.

Every team has hitting slumps, and they’ve had good stretches to offset the bad. With even league-average pitching, they’d be in much better shape.

pacman68

ClutchUp

Thanks… sometimes we forget how fortunate we have been. My friend who is a Cubs fan says that we are a bunch of whiney little b that scratches.

I think we are all a little spoiled but that’s what winning does. It makes you want to win more.

With that said… they have to do something about Zito. They can’t let him pitch on the road after the break. He is just awful.

channelclemente

To anyone who ever wants to play with some exotic baseball calculation, look up Wolfram Alpha as a website. It’s the brain child of the owner/inventor of Mathematica. As an example, look at this financial walk through, squint, and think baseball.

Agree. I see no downside with the Giants. If they get back in this thing, great, if not, they’re well positioned to reload in 2014. As someone posted the other day, regardless of what happens in 2013, can’t take away the WS wins in 2010 and 2012!

408svl

bad zito or good zito is here to stay at least for this year. you can bank on it. i would like to see a trade before the start of the second half. what is out there? i would like to see it sooner and not later. stay tuned.

Sam

1hit in 7AB will help Zito’s BABIP

South City Jim

Look on the bright side, Snakes lost, Bums are losing, and Ian Kennedy is as screwed up as anybody.

Irony

Matthew,

If you don’t like green eggs,
You should have some toast and jam with Sam

bad kitty

Zito pitched after Cain’s perfect game last year and gave up a couple of homers to Astros (and we lost). Seeing this display of mostly batting practice from Zeets, Dunning and Kontos, really shows what an incredible game Lincecum pitched last nite. He was brilliant! All Pads homers were up and over the plate. Zeets is not doing too well and Scoots defense continues to be mediocre! Casilla looked strong.

South City Jim

Look on the bright side, Snakes lost, Bums are losing, and Ian Kennedy is as me$$ed up as anybody.

DomnVinsDad

Well that was fun.

H-Boston

Lefty says:
July 14th, 2013 at 2:09 pm 38..Sam: I also think calling out mediocrity is fair…I have more tolerance for Belt at $500K being inconsistent than Pence at $14 mil. If Belt doesn’t ever figure it out and they have a better option at some point, it’s easy enough to move on.

Love Pence’s attitude and hustle, but it’s hard to feel good about any kind of pricey new deal for him. That wouldn’t be a tough call for me, but I’m sensing it will be for Sabean.

Hey Lefty,

Sorry to use your post, but Belt will
figure it out, imo, it’s just whether
it’s with the giants. He certainly
won’t figure it out on the bench.

Irony

That was not fun
I could have been out in the sun
Instead I was inside
Watching the Giants getting whooped on the backside

hitman

Pay back is a beach! Heh,heh! How do you like Zito now? Heh,heh,heh!

SurfCity

Boston — If Tanaka can play Left, Belt certainly can play Left.

Irony

Zito started the game
But he is very lame
He couldn’t get out of the third
Cuz he was pitching like turd

ClutchUp

SurfCity says: July 14th, 2013 at 3:59 pm Clutch he is right about at least one thing:

Surf: My issues are with Sam who gave himself away the last post, because he used “Mr. Clutch” which outed him as NumbNuts. People whether trolls or not, don’t change their spots. You’ve had hot spot issues with people before posting political items and I have issues with Sam, NumbNuts, NotRunnitt because of what I posted. He gains satisfaction in predicting ahead of time what’s to come bad stuff that’s gonna happen via the Giants. He was thwarted last night with his wishes that SF actually lose and 55 actually implode or lose his no no.

Others I as you say moderated because they say something outlandish like why aren’t we running, stealing, or suicide squeezing. You call it what you want – Moderating – I call it replying back to their post.

We once had somebody named AllTheWhitePeople who couldn’t stand some topic on here. ATWP sounded like he had been here before but that particular poster had to conjure up a name to fit the moment. Sam does the same thing but he has a better trolling IQ then most out and out trolls.

Thanks Surf. Enjoy your banter and looks like the Santa Cruz Warriors are gonna be restocked just like the big club.

PS: Why did you post that link? 😉

408svl

@badkitty post147: yup! you are right. a perfect game by CAIN and MR. ZITO lost the game to the ASTROS. a no hit game by LINCECUM and another lost to the Padres this time of the year JULY 14, 2013. ah! continuing saga of MR. BARRY ZITO.

Both could potentially could be top 20
players in their sport all time

(I know Brady, was drafted like 6th,
but at the time, slow ~ 5.0+ 40
and didn’t think had great arm strength

Rogers had a decent 40, and a great arm
coming out of CAL

Tom

Hehe

South City Jim

Bums lost. heh,heh,heh

Sam

Mr Clutch,

I was baiting you with the Mr. Clutch. I knew you would associate that with NN. Just wanted to further show your unhealthy infatuation with me. Since I predicted this, I would go revel in my prediction coming true.

Pitching Pitching Pitching. The Giants must have pitching in order to win. They need to win at a 630+ clip or they will not win the division. That is going to be very tough with Zito as the 4th starter and no 5th starter and Cain questionable.

After the Allstar break, they have 7 of 10 series against teams 500 and above including several front runners. If they play 500 ball, the season is over. In about 3 weeks, we should know that the season is over.

408svl

let’s all be happy because the first half is over for the GIANTS. can’t wait to see what SABEAN will do before the second half. is it ham and eggs like BOCHY what said or it’s all bacon this time? for me, like what the ring announcer would, ” Let’s get ready to rumble “. Get it?

Matthew

Wow, the A’s are legit…

Bay Ball trumps all

Irony

Clutch has issues with Sam
Because Sam is a thinking fan
He hates the way Sam rolls
So he calls Sam a troll

Sam says: July 14th, 2013 at 4:34 pm Mr Clutch,I was baiting you with the Mr. Clutch. I knew you would associate that with NN. Just wanted to further show your unhealthy infatuation with me. Since I predicted this, I would go revel in my prediction coming true.

Nice try NumbNuts 😉

SurfCity

cc – thanks for the language link, quite fascinating

Irony

Clutch is like putty in Sam’s hands
He is infuatuated with Numbs glands
He is an old angry fool
Cuz Sam called his friend a tool

Doughnut

A good series overall and a good way to head into the break. 3 out of 4 is always great especially on the road.
The mets series really bothers me. That was a spot where we SHOULD have made up ground and taken 2 out of 3. Getting swept just blows my mind, i still can’t believe that. ROCK BOTTOM. They had a bad lineup, bad bullpen and were flying cross country on short rest. They already played a couple extra inning games including 15 innings twice. We should have crushed them. That one bugs me, but i still feel like the Giants will get their shot at it. I don’t see Arizona running away with it and with Mattingly at the helm i don’t see the dodgers running away with it either although they do have the talent.

The schedule isn’t as grueling as the first half and I think the Giants are a much better team when they don’t have all the crazy hectic traveling. That really wears on us. They are going to need a couple guys to step up and have career type second halfs. Not unreasonable and I wouldn’t be surprised to see it happen. They just need to win series and put some pressure on AZ. Nobody except STL is that good in the NL. All teams have holes and AZ has some big ones. Their starting pitching at the moment might be more messed up then ours.

408svl

@irony: you are funny, man. but love it.

Stan

Kreuger has been saying “Sign Zito”. ahh,the King of Wrong..nobody can take that title away.

The Oracle

If you think Sam is a troll, that means you think he is here only to annoy people. If you then repeatedly respond to him, letting him know how much he annoys you, you’re giving him exactly what he wants. So don’t. I can enjoy an annoying, yet knowledgeable, smart a$$, possibly because I’m sometimes one myself, so I don’t mind Sam (even though he doesn’t like Belt). This Polioptila I do find fascinating, though. He is the Washington Generals of trolls; a hopeless, pathetic, loser who shows up every day to prove it all over again. While I don’t actually read most of the posts, just scrolling past his name so many times makes me laugh. He never quits.

ClutchUp

Thanks Oracle, good points. I will scroll past the Trolls.

Wonder if they hold elections like Ralph Kramden and Norton?

“Boom, one of these days Alice”…

channelclemente

An interesting investigation of internet troll psychology. It’s instructive, because usually, 17 or 70, the psychology is the same. A man corners and meets his troll!

Sometimes i think there are a couple people here that post under like 9 different screen names just for the hell of it for their own psychotic reasons. Maybe Alex could tell us. It is kind of bogus that they can just take somebody else’s name.

South City Jim

I figured it out. If Zito is #3 after the break, he can start on 7/21 against the D’Backs and 7/27 against the Cubs, both home games. That buys the G’s until 8/2 before they need another starter for the road.

channelclemente

Dough,

you’re right, then they talk to themselves. It’s like some sort of juvenile art form.

channelclemente

I haven’t yet felt the necessity, but I asked a friend of mine in the ‘government’ whether trolls were as anonymous has they hope to be. He said, anonymity is a myth. From his desk top he could locate almost anyone on the internet, without discussing how. He did send me here as a reference to the open source methods. It’s just a question of how much trouble it would be. These guys aren’t geniuses, just read the weak BS they post here.

Looking at the facts of the case, it is very obvious that ClutchUp is in the wrong. There was a dispute were a nasty comment was made by totalfan62. Sam responded by calling him toolfan. Clutch decided to install himself into the middle of this dispute and went on the offensive against Sam. Sam politely asked Clutch why it was OK for Totalfan to say such horrible things to him but he got mad when his friend was called a tool. Clutch was way wrong in this dispute. He never should have gotten himself involved with this. I sentence him to a night of reading Poliopotila posts.

Polioptila Veintiocho

All my fellow Gnatfans should give thanks that this team managed to stay healthy during the first half. Should there be any significant injuries in the second half, though, these Grizzlies will find it even harder to keep up with the Madres, let alone the rest of the division.

stickman

Funny how thiS hitman shows up today but wasn’t around the last couple. But the LaBumbos lost today too. Heh, heh, heh. Seems like they haven’t had very many multimilliondollar ABs lately and little Puiggy’s BA keeps dipping and dipping. Oh well, $$$ can’t buy everything.

stickman

There are medicines for interstitial polyps don’t you know. Though sometimes surgery is called for. There’s a famous surgeon in Oslo who lives at 3/5 Trollhattan Vej who does these things quite efficiently, Dr. Tomas Skrukrud. He is a bit pricey, though, as Norway has a much higher standard of living than do we here in the fruited plain.

channelclemente

stick,

Lasers of the rektally targeted work wonders for pol-lips.

ClutchUp

Carmen Kiew is now dealing with Salty Balty from Clovis on Marty’s show.

Mo P

Ugh, bad radio…. salty vs. carmen.

Salty does make a good point, about the team not at .500 ball. Marty was hilarious yesterday when he said the giants are in a pennant race. The giants are in as much of a pennant race as every other team in baseball, except maybe the Marlins and Astros.

Starting pitching is 24th in MLB is an area that needs significant improvement.

ClutchUp

Baltimore Dave lol wanted to go back and talk about Beltran …. says this is his 4th year.

Wheras the real answer is BB9 is in his 3rd yr of pro ball and really his first full playing time yr.

BB9 is a 6-8hole hitter who is not the reason for any first half troubles.

Mo P

I think another trend I have noticed, but is probably not true… it sure seems like Belt sits the day after he hits a HR…

ClutchUp

Severe goring at Pamplona Spain

One armpit gored and one rectal perforation.

Gads, maybe Zito can get back on course after all.

what???

Cost “us” runs …. who do you morons think you are … “ON THE TEAM?” … I don’t think you are on the payroll, and until you are, wise up and say Scutaro cost “THE GIANTS” 2 runs … happens throughout the entire blog …. sheeesh … Idiots!!!!

avwh

This is a Giants blog. Most commenters here are Giants fans.

Everybody who matters knows “us” is shorthand in a post for “the Giants”. Anybody troubled by that should go practice their grammar police trolling act somewhere else.