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From: John Aldrich
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Ok, so I'm going to be in Chattanooga Thursday for a Lunch & Learn downtown
at the BlueWater Grill (I think that's the name of the place.. right there
on Broad.) Anyone got any plans to be there? What about Thursday
afternoon/evening?

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From: Rod-Lists
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Blue Water is good.
Lovely resturant.
But that is just before payday. i'kll have to wait and see.
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From: "John Aldrich"
To: "CHUGALUG"
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 6:43:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Chugalug] Thursday
Ok, so I'm going to be in Chattanooga Thursday for a Lunch & Learn downtown
at the BlueWater Grill (I think that's the name of the place.. right there
on Broad.) Anyone got any plans to be there? What about Thursday
afternoon/evening?

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From: John Aldrich
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Well, I got an invite from Syscom Technologies, the folks running the
"lunch and learn" so I don't think I'm expected to pay. ;-) That being
said, since I have the day off, I think I'll run a couple other errands that
afternoon, but thought maybe it might be nice to have a Chugalug meeting
somewhere Thursday evening. :-) If not, oh, well... that's OK too. I'm sure
there'll be something good on TV Thursday night, if not live, then off the
DVR. ;-)

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From: Mike Harrison
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Bluewater is always good. What is the "Lunch and Learn" topic?
Got a URL? I found all kinds of "Lunch and Learn" things via Google.

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From: John Aldrich
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It's on Disaster Recovery. Sponsored by Syscom Technologies. Anyone know
anything about them? It appears that they are a Chattanooga company, but
other than that, I don't know anything else much other than what's on their
website (D/R specialists.)

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From: John Aldrich
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No URL, but I do have the contact info for the lady who contacted me and
invited me... If anyone is interested, shoot me an email to my work
address: jaldrich@blueridgecarpet.com and I'll get you in touch with
SysCom.
Just got off the phone with Mike H. and he's not interested as it's probably
a Microsoft-centric solution, but on the good side he's never heard of
SysCom. Why is that a good thing? Because as he put it, he's only heard of
the *bad* folks. ;-)

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From: Dave Brockman
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They aren't based in Chatt, they are based in Atlanta. They have some
good products and services, and at least one talented Engineer. If,
however, they mention Mimosa for Exchange, I suggest you cover your ears
and run from the room screaming at the top of your lungs.
Regards,
dtb
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From: John Aldrich
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Ah... Interesting. From what I saw on their website it *looked* like they
were Chattanooga based. Anyway, since we don't have (and don't plan to get)
Exchange, I won't worry about Mimosa. :-)

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From: Chris Mowery
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Looks like I'll be at the Lunch and Learn, too. Hopefully the food
alone will be worth the time.
Chris
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From: John Aldrich
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Cool. I guess I can talk to you guys afterwards to get your take on whether
what they're pushing is good or BS. :-)

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From: Aaron welch
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He still owes me for a lunch...
-AW

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From: John Aldrich
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Hah! I'm freshly divorced with a house payment, electric bill, internet,
etc all on my own, when I have been barely paying all the bills when it was
a 2-paycheck household. So, no. I'm not buying dessert/drinks. I might join
you for a cold one afterwards, but it's strictly every man for himself. ;-)

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From: John Aldrich
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I thought your former employer picked up the tab for that one. :-)

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From: Aaron Welch
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Nope. I had to on my dime.
-AW

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From: John Aldrich
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Oh, then I do owe you lunch. My bad.

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From: cynicalgeek@gmail.com
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It blows my mind that u guys even discuss this on list. Seriously.
Sent from my iPhone

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From: Aaron Welch
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Two things then I will drop it...
1. This was meant in jest and I guess that got lost in the email.
2. It was a Chugalunch that I paid for so it is almost list appropriate :+p=
It is also poking fun of one of my old employers since they viewed taking cu=
stomers out to lunch as a bad thing and not a sales tool. The whole thing w=
as a misunderstanding with John (and his coworker), I just felt the need to p=
oke at him about it all in good fun.
-AW

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From: Rod-Lists
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People forget some of these guys have known each other for awhile and have =
their own short hand.=20
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From: "Aaron Welch" =20
To: "CHUGALUG" =20
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:04:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern=20
Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Thursday=20
Two things then I will drop it...=20
1. =C2=A0This was meant in jest and I guess that got lost in the email.=20
2. =C2=A0It was a Chugalunch that I paid for so it is almost list appropria=
te :+p=20
It is also poking fun of one of my old employers since they viewed taking c=
ustomers out to lunch as a bad thing and not a sales tool. =C2=A0The whole =
thing was a misunderstanding with John (and his coworker), I just felt the =
need to poke at him about it all in good fun.=20
-AW=20
=C2=A0=20

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From: Chris Mowery
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Dave,
After the presentation we stayed and talked to them about Exchange
migration and archiving came up. What is the problem with Mimosa? They
were definitely pushing it hard.
Chris
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From: Aaron Welch
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So you were the ones hogging Don! That presentation was too rushed and felt=
for like infospew. I wish they would have just focused on using SRM for DR=
.
-AW
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From: Chris Mowery
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Yup! It was interesting stuff, but I was expecting a different type of
presentation, more technical.
Chris
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From: Stephen Rees
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So did you get a free lunch?
- Stephen
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From: Dave Brockman
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Let me preface this by saying
1) This was ~4 years ago
2) I had a rather complicated Exchange Org (18+ servers, 16+ sites)
The problems with Mimosa were:
They came in, spent the majority of a day and a half, declared it was
working, and it did -- for one particular small sub-set of users. They
spent the rest of the week working on it, finally about 3PM Friday they
declared it good. And it was working. Until Monday morning. Then it
didn't work for anyone again. That's when I went down the uninstall
road. You will never, ever get all of Mimosa out of your Exchange Org,
it buries itself way down deep into the PF structure and I have no idea
how it does it's redirections. I don't like black magic either.
If you'd like to discuss Exchange migration, feel free to drop me a line
off-list. That's kinda been one of my areas of expertise for the past
12+ years. If you're interested in archiving, I would highly suggest
you look at products that use the native journaling features of
Exchange. Barracuda and Enkive play in this space.
Regards,
dtb
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From: Chris Mowery
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Wow that is crazy. Yeah I would like a journal-based archive solution.
We currently have Barracuda email filters so that might be a push for
them.
Thanks for the offer, I might take you up on it after we have our big
"email direction" meeting. I'm kinda pushing toward a hosted solution.
Chris
it

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From: Bret McHone
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I have a Barracuda Message Archiver and it works wonderfully for the
limited user base I've implemented it... I'm looking forward to when I
can fully implement it across the enterprise because I @#$%ing hate PST
files... with a passion.
-B