Why Men Should Have No Say On The Abortion Issue

I had a discussion with a close male friend this week who says he is pro-choice – to an extent. He went on for sometime sharing his views on abortion with me. While he was talking I realized something very important – unless he is the father of the fetus, what he says really doesn’t matter because he’s a man.

It really gets me steamed when a man sits in judgment of a woman who has had an abortion. I just don’t see how a man can speak to this issue at all. Why should men need to establish any type of position at all on a subject that is clearly feminine by nature? I know many are already cowering away from this article in fear of hell’s fire. Think about it though, there are several reason why men should not have a say in what women do with their bodies.

Congratulations Sir, You’re Pregnant

For example, men have never had to face the decision of whether they should allow a child to grow inside them. They have never been in the position of reconciling the gift of life with the invasion of life. In fact, a man can just impregnate a woman and walk away, which is exactly what many have done. If a man can have the right to choose whether he wants the responsibility of fatherhood, shouldn’t the woman have the same choice concerning motherhood?

Men have never been in the position of having a foreign object growing in their bodies and being told it would be immoral to want that object removed. Men cannot relate to the feeling personal invasion brought about by an unwanted pregnancy or the fears of being a single mother. The woman’s body is used as a vessel for life, but it should be each woman’s decision as to whether she wants to be a vessel at that point in her life.

Daddy Isn’t Here, Sweetheart

Another reason men shouldn’t have a say on the abortion issue is because since the dawn of time women have carried the majority of the burden of child rearing while the man pursues his own interests in life. Meanwhile, the wife is tied to the home to raise the children that both of them created. Men cannot relate to the stifling feeling that comes from being subjected to living a life as the primary care giver. In fact, there should be no primary care giver at all, it should be a shared responsibility. However, when the father is not around, the woman has no other choice.

The woman knows what having a child will mean to her personal life (and yes, her life does matter too). Sometimes the changes are welcomed, other times the future is very scary. A man can go on with his life, his career and his own interests with little worry about his future other than being forced to set up the baby’s crib before the mother goes into labor – if that much. However, the mother’s sacrifices and responsibilities are endless and she knows how important it is to raise children who are productive members of society. She can’t fail – even if he does shrug his responsibilities.

Men have basically handed over parental responsibilities to the women and walked away. Even the most well-intentioned father engages in but a small amount of the parenting responsibilities. The women, with no other choice but to raise the children since the father is out pursuing his career, or whatever it is that men do when they are not at home with their families, are forced into a situation that may not even be what that woman needs to thrive in life. She has no choice.

Does the man care that his selfishness could have a detrimental impact on the woman? Nope. She’s doing what society expects of her and he is doing whatever he wants. It is especially difficult for women in these days when so many men just abandon their responsibilities as fathers altogether and leave the woman completely alone to raise the child as a single parent. Even when a father is physically around, oft times he is not around emotionally. But again, the woman has no choice.

It Takes Two

The reason it takes both a man and a woman to make a child is because nature knew it would take both a man and a woman to raise that child. When the man shrugs his paternal obligation, the woman is left with a burden that wasn’t meant to be shouldered by one person.

So many conservatives believe women get recklessly pregnant and then use abortion as birth control. This is just a tactic used to justify the imposition of their morals on other people. Anyone who has ever been inside an abortion clinic knows abortion is always a last resort for women. It’s a desperate move to solve a desperate problem – not a routine action.

What’s even more ironic is that many times these conservatives would be the first to rush their daughter to the abortion clinic just to save face if she ended up with an unwanted pregnancy. Then they have the audacity to condemn the women who choose to not have a baby because they couldn’t afford to feed it or didn’t want to raise the child alone. In fact, the guy I mentioned at the start of this article encouraged his girlfriend to have an abortion because he was afraid of what his religious parents would think about an illegitimate child. He thinks what he did was moral, but some abortions are not. Even worse, he is blind to his own hypocrisy.

Men, It’s Time To Be A Daddy

It all too ironic that while women have been home raising the children, men have been in politics making laws concerning women and their bodies. Men have used their power in politics and religion to control and dominate women by telling us what they think we can morally do with our own bodies. Imagine the arrogance! That any man believes he has any place at all tell me what is legal for me to do with my own body! This is why there needs to be more women legislators and religious leaders.

I don’t see men rushing to change societal expectations for maternal responsibility concerning child rearing. I don’t see them demanding the right to be more responsible fathers or to play a more integral part in their children’s lives. In fact, if they did then they would be entitled to more say in the abortion issue. But why should they want things to change? They’ve got it made in the shade. If things changed, they’d have to pull their own weight, give up some of their own career pursuits, and go home at a decent hour to the child waiting for dinner and a caring hug.

In short, when men start choosing to be fathers, that’s when they will have the right to pipe in on whether women can choose to be mothers. Until then men, your opinion just doesn’t matter.

Personally, all that is bull. The female has the choice whether or not to become a mother. She knows whether or not if she can afford it or not. She knows the sacrifices she would have to make in her own life. Women just like to act like martyrs in this situation. Especially if a man has articulated from the beginning that he did not want to be a father. He gives that right up when he sleeps with her. Then women can play the emotional card or “my horomones are raging” blah, blah. Then they say ” I can give the child all the love they need. U cannot make a man “love” a child.

2.Kiuku | May 7, 2007 at 2:11 pm

I disagree on one point only. That nature made pregnancy a dual affair because it takes two people to raise a child. Clearly we are social animals, but I do not think that seals a man’s position as a father figure anywhere, necessary to a woman and the rearing of her offspring and neither does the nature of sexual intercourse. In our society, however, a woman has either 1 of 2 choices. She marries a man, or she raises a child alone. There is no other sense of community beyond that. It is only through the isolation of women that men have sealed their necessity in child rearing. You need to have a man who has a career to “support” you. It is very very difficult to support a child alone, when you are also the mother of that child especially. The punishment in our society for not marrying a man or not keeping a man, is clear: poverty. Perhaps if men wanted to end abortion they could make themselves less singly necessary to the raising of offspring and seek to end female poverty through abolishment of harmful but beneficial to men only social institutions and adopt different uber beneficial social institutions. Encourage a more communal approach to child rearing, perhaps. Would that ever happen? Or will men continue to patronize child bearing, which naturally belongs to women alone? Will men continue to create an unnatural right to control biological offspring through legislation? It is obvious what they choose but what amazes me is the hypocrisy of men, these men, to artificially create their necessity and then complain when they are forced to pay child support?

3.Anonymous | May 23, 2007 at 11:49 am

I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THIS

4.Anonymous | June 15, 2007 at 8:49 pm

I believe rape is the only reason for an abortion. We are all adults and we know how babys are made. If you dont take proper precautions and get pregnant,both parents should not have a say.they should just pay the piper and rais the child.

5.Benjamin G. Dela Cruz | December 4, 2007 at 3:30 pm

That’s just silly, what the author is forgetting is that many people think abortion is immoral because they view it as the termination of a life. To suggest that men should have no say in the issue just because it isn’t their baby is about as logical as saying they should have no say on how people abuse or treat their animals.

I agree with all of this. I also agree it is ultimately a woman’s responsibility NOT to become pregnant if she is NOT ready to be a mother.

However, this being Life and us being Humans, accidents (broken condoms, BC pills that do not work, etc.) happen. In these cases I think the anti-abortionists should be saddled with raising all these essentially unwanted and unplanned for children, should they succeed in outlawing abortion.
Thank you.

7.Juju | January 28, 2008 at 10:51 pm

ps – to say that abortion is the termination of a life is like saying NOT having sex is preventing the CREATION of a life, and therefore, terminating a life that has the potential to BE. i could go on and one.

in short, abortion-as-termination-of -life is a ridiculous argument. until it’s a baby, it’s not a baby. period.

8.Juju | January 28, 2008 at 10:54 pm

if you outlaw abortion, you’d better be consistent and outlaw condoms, BC pills, IUDs, BC patches, etc. After all, each method kills the odds for a life forming, right?

9.Anonymous | January 30, 2008 at 3:16 am

just saying men don’t have a say in a woman’s abortion unless he is the father of the fetus means that women still have a say in other women’s abortions. it’s not anyones business except the woman who is getting the abortion.

10.tyler | February 24, 2008 at 8:34 pm

hey lady go fuck yourself men were created first and are the dominant power of the world women were made from men when will you dumn ass feminazis get this through you stubborn heads women were put on this earth to obey men you ever heard of rule of thumb men arent to beat there wives with anything bigger than there thumb. stop complaining about how many freedoms women dont have and start enjoying the ones you do cause you could have A LOT less beleive me I am not for hurting women or anything but you just complais so fucking much its so irritating. just shut the fuck up and enjoy life and stop going waaaah i dont have enough freedoms why cant i have more I know i will go suck some guys dick so i can get another freedom. dumb ass.

11.jason | May 17, 2008 at 9:33 pm

I just love how she refers to the baby as a ‘foreign object’ excuse me it is a life created by two people, half of this ‘foreign object’ is part of the mother! What sort of sick self deprivation is the author trying to inflict. My conclusion is she try’s to distance her emotional feelings from killing a life and thus justifying it by referring to the baby as a ‘foreign object’ and such. Conscious cleared? I think a lot of this is bullshit, it takes two to make a baby and two to raise a baby definitely. It should take two to decide on an abortion. That’s right TWO. Men absolutely have a say in their children’s lives. It is not about the fathers or the mothers its about the kids. If a father wants to step up (or a mother) they have the right to do so as parents. Too many times Fathers are working hard to get a ahead, not for themselves but for their family’s. Food, diapers, hospital visits etc are more than important and life nourishing contributions as fathers. And i got news for the author, sometimes that means long hours at the office to provide these things. To stereotype all men into this sadistic bullshit of men have not say on abortion and to ex out their opinions on the issue all together is quite frankly ludicrous, pompous and uneducated on the authors part!

12.patrick | September 10, 2008 at 4:58 pm

this is ridiculous in the fact that you are using two stereoytypes to prove your point.

Mothers have shouldered all the weight?? who is the one dumping babies in dumpsters,GETTING THE ABORTION, or juss not caring for the child in any way shape or form. women.

now that is not to say that men havent stepped up as what there supposed to be.fathers. yet you make it seem that every single man has not stepped up at all. what you are duin is turning the wheel on a vicious cycle that wont stop in the near future, there are plenty of men that work HARD to be a father or even a father figure in a childs life YET it is women like this author who SHOOT DOWN the REAL MEN and down play there work. yes the mother spends more time with the children that is unfortunate HOWEVER to say that men juss dont do anything is crap that i really am tired of. as a man in this society (or even juss the world) i have been shoved into this box of how a real amn is supposed to act or even more detremental on how people view what a man acts like and i feel that this is enough (in the same way that a woman gets looked at and almost immedately juged so does a man)

13.patrick | September 10, 2008 at 5:04 pm

and tyler understand that women were created because men arent made to be alone they were the suitable heplers. understand that god hade to create another being juss for us to be fulfilled for no other creature on earth can take the place of a woman. HOWEVER in that same way no other creature can take the place of a man. both sexes have to understand that we need each other look at how the penis fits o so perfectly into the vagina and you will see that man+woman= good
man+man=not good
woman+woman=not good
only when a man and a woman come together is it good (and that is sthe only way for life to be created) femmisnists are foolish in the sense that they push the notion that a world w/o men is a good thing and that is juss foolish. in the same way a world w/o women if foolish respect one another in full view of gods poweer because it was he who created us. 😀

14.Lowell Conner | November 13, 2008 at 2:28 am

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15.Anonymous | November 13, 2008 at 6:18 pm

F U because really ridiculous we have to pay not you. so piss off

16.rocky | November 16, 2008 at 12:31 pm

hi, i would consider my self as a mistress, i’ve been blinded in love, i supposed this is the right word for it.. and in returned i got pregnant and after the incident i never heard any calls from this guy… months came along.. until i’ve decided to take my resignation from my previous work then months later after my officially resignation this guy (father of my child) called me and offered a vacant position from their company wherein am working now. at first i told my self that i should control my emotion and feelings from this guy, however, am so weak toward that decision.. i can’t describe the kind of relationship that we had, whenever he need me am confidently go out with him, then suddenly problem arise after 2months i found out that am pregnant again for our second child.. when i let him knew about my condition, he was shocked and told me that this 2nd pregnancy should be terminated. he knew that both of us will put our selves into a risky situation if i will continue this. At first i have nothing to do but afraid to accept what he want to do from our 2nd child. unfortunately, guilty came out on me, and decided to continue my pregnancy whatever consequences will arise in the future. until now, he never ask me anything, though i know that i should let him go from my thinking aside on knowing him as a playboy with different girls around him and he just easily get what he want.
By now, i have nothing retain from my self.. i feel that am so empty and don’t know where to start, the only idea from my mind is to raise my children and be strong for them because they will need me. I’ve know that these part of me was all wrong, i’ve been allowing this man to ruined and destroy my future. but i wont allow it to be happen. I love my children for no other else and i will protect them for harm in any way i could.

17.Mike | December 5, 2008 at 11:21 pm

I agree the decision to have an abortion should be left to the women who will have to deal with the consequences and
society should do everything possible to help the mother with the child if she decides to have the baby maybe this will encourage more women to give birth this should be a priority as for the side of the man in the couple who do want the pregnancy you are responsible to use a condom its not rocket science its a lot easier for us as men no need to take the pill, no decision on abortion,
be honest and drop the attitude our job should be to act more like fathers then teenage boys maybe then females will care more about what we have to say concerning abortion respect the lady’s in your life you will have a happier life

18.Kitty | December 8, 2008 at 8:56 am

I’m sure none of you chauvinists will come back to this page to read your replies. Perhaps you want to see the flames you’ve stoked and you are back. In either case, Patrick, Feminists don’t want a world without men, we want men and women to be partners in life, with equal rights and responsibilities. God created Eve to be a Helper-Partner. “Helper is elsewhere in the Bible most often used in reference to Israel’s God. God as Israel’s helper is the one who makes possible Israel’s existence as a divine covenant partner. The woman is the one who makes possible the man’s existence as a human covenant partner. That is how she is his helper.”

And Tyler, grow up. Women were not made to be submissive to men but to be a balancing force. The rule of thumb you quote is a myth that you probably got from a chain email. If there were fewer guys like you, believe me, we wouldn’t have much to complain about.

That’s my two cents.

19.Katherine | December 8, 2008 at 9:02 am

The thing about this issue is, should either parent be able to leave this situation.

If a man wants out, he can just up and leave, bye-bye, don’t bother me about child support.
If a woman wants out, an abortion is her only option.

I think that if a man and woman had sex together (in the case of a relationship resulting in pregnancy, not a rape) they should be able to talk as mature adults about it, and decide together what will happen. If the man and woman want in, great! If a man and woman want out, at least they agree. If a man wants out but a woman wants to keep it, he can leave. (Though many pregnant women are assaulted and abused by their partners, in my city in Canada it’s upwards of 70% of pregnant women.)
If a man wants to keep it and the woman doesn’t, the woman is the trump card. She has to carry it, deal with the changes, go through an excruciating ordeal and carry the scars of it, so she gets to decide. Until we can find a way to transfer a fetus to a man so he can carry it, that man can NOT have the final say.

20.matthew | March 22, 2009 at 1:34 pm

honestly, I think that a man should have a say in the abortion. Why do men have to pay child support and all that crap if the mother leaves or there not married or anything like that? If men don’t have a choice in that why the hell don’t men have a choice in the abortion. What difference does it make if the baby is not fully grown. It’s still life. It’s like when your asleep your not really conscious so does that mean i can take a gun and kill you? NO of course not so the same should apply to a baby. but ya i do think that men should have a say in the abortion

21.Anonymous | March 31, 2009 at 8:46 pm

What about equality or do you feel that woman are greater than Men. I believe in equality and I love my mother and my girl friend very much. Men should have a say in there childs existence and to say otherwise is to reject equality. Peace. 😛

22.Anonymous | March 15, 2011 at 10:11 pm

i agree with this 100%.

23.Miranda | June 10, 2011 at 1:55 am

I agree with patrick, men and women need each other! Men have built up this wretched thought throughout the years that they are better than women, neither sex would last a day without the other around. And there is no way in hell abortion should only be up to the woman, because there are men out there who want to be fathers and help there impregnated lover get through the process of pregnancy and child birth.

24.tom | October 19, 2011 at 4:43 am

Since when can men just walk away from the responsibility of fatherhood anymore than a woman can walk away from the responsibility of motherhood ? Of course there are deadbeat dads out there. Let us not forget there are also deadbeat moms out there as well! Countless men who ” walk away from the responsibility of fatherhood” are prosecuted for failing to pay child support. By the way women do have the choice to choose whether they want the responsibility of motherhood or not……. its called a birth control pill…… or a condom …… etc. Let me tell you in what scenario a man has a say in whether a woman has an abortion or not…… when that is HIS child also growing in the woman’s body. Now by no means am I saying a man can force an abortion on a woman, the same way a woman should nor be able to force an unwanted abortion on a man. The last time I checked it takes a woman AND A MAN to make a child…….. not just a woman. You love to paint a terrible picture of men insinuating that the majority of men don’t want to be fathers. However growing up as the child of a single mother with 4 kids who was unfit to be a parent, and a father who fought tooth and nail for custody of me , I can definitely tell you this is not always the case. The justice system is extremely biased towards women, in most cases regardless of what is in the child’s best interests. My ex-girlfriend had an aborted our baby behind my back without even telling me she was pregnant till after the fact. Having been through this situation I can tell you how painful it can be for a man. Had she kept the baby could I have shunned and neglected my parental responsibilities?…….. possibly. However had I taken that road that choice wouldn’t be without consequence. I could have had my wages garnished had I failed to pay child support. I would have to live with the guilt and stigma that is associated with being a deadbeat dad, as well as many, many other things. The point is this….. of course there a deadbeat parents out there, the thing is , and I hate to rain on your feminist rallying cry parade, but walking away from parental responsibility is not gender specific. In terms of an abortion ” always being a last resort” well, it took my ex a whole two days after finding out she was pregnant to have an abortion. Hardly seems like a last resort to me. Was it a hard decision for her to make? Absolutely , it must have been. What she as well as many other women who don’t consult the father forget is that that was our hard decision to make together. The reason why it was our decision to make together is simple – that child was just as much mine as it was hers. Now here is where I think we are making the same point. The child is just as much the father’s responsibility as it is the mother’s responsibility . Therefore just as much the man’s decision as the woman’s. The picture you print of the majority of men being absentee fathers is prejudiced and despicable . I think you forget about the men who wake up at all hours of the night to feed the crying baby when they have to get up and leave for work at 6 am well the mother has 9 months to a year off of work for mat-leave. I think you forget about the fathers who volunteer their time to coach their kids sports teams in a day and age where everyone is complaining about how little time they have to themselves. If women don’t want to be having kids then its simple….. either don’t have sex or use a contraceptive.

I had a discuss with a close female friend this week …. she was telling me how men have no say in abortion. well she was talking I realised something very important – until women start producing babies on their own, men absolutely do have a say!

25.Anonymous | October 20, 2011 at 7:56 pm

the point is that men shouldnt have a say. almost ALL of you are missing the point of this article!

[…] “It’s My Body” party line has been shoved down our throats for years now, and the notion that fathers should have a say in whether or not their child is aborted is simply preposterous to them. But the reach of […]

what about if the man in the situation is a loving father, not an arrogant beast that will leave at the first sight of a bump? can the man have a say then? i think the article sticks up for women but acts on the premise that all men are the same.

29.Pm | December 16, 2012 at 7:27 pm

Why are people referencing god and the bible in this, there is no god and the bible is a book like any other work of fiction. If a women has an abortion then deal with it and the justifiable guilt that entails, it’s nobody’s fault but yours. You’ve taken a life , you and you alone so stop trying to make yourself less complicit. Honestly women are just whining children.

All your arguments are ridiculous. You seem to imply that women who haven’t given birth or had an abortion would similarly be unable to form a valid opinion. Also, in every point you imply that any man forming an opinion must a misogynistic immoral archetype not suitable to be a father. That is a complete fallacy. Clearly you should change the name of your blog to “sexism online” because your opinions all boil down to a deep-set hatred of males.

32.Anonymous | January 26, 2013 at 9:58 pm

Men should not have a say in abortion because of the simple fact that he does not have to grow the little thing in his stomach. It’s as simple as that.

33.f dunbrook | February 14, 2013 at 5:07 am

In Canada a man has to pay child support whether the kid was wanted or not, but in turn has no say in whether the mother can choose to abort it or not. This brings up an interesting issue with whether the mother simply does not want to be pregnant or does not want to have a child. If it is the first, then by all means they should have full choice it is growing inside them, however if it is the second then the man’s rights as the father are being stepped upon. If he decides that he wants to keep the child then he should be able to, but he does not have a say. The real issue here is that if you choose to have sex, you may have a child and both parties must be responsible for it. If it is rape then obviously one party did not make the choice and it is a different matter altogether.

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35.Anonymous | March 27, 2013 at 7:21 am

why would i coward away from some women who thinks shes contributes to society with writing a blog that goes against everything about equal rights which feminist were fighting for

36.smartgurl | April 17, 2013 at 11:18 pm

As I read through these comments I think about how I can hear all the selfishness in the text. First off, when someone writes “men were created first and are dominate of the world’ I refer back to when I heard someone say that zebras were made first but god had made them on accident trying to make the horse, then he made the chaeta but was trying to make a tiger, therefore when he made the man he did it on accident in the attempt to make the woman(: haaha

But really everything said in here I completely agree with and I really hope that instead of men looking at this and thinking this is defensive think of it as just trying to open the eyes of men and seeing that even though you maybe the father this is your partners body and be acceptant of her decisions. Obviously you do have an opinion on the matter of abortion and women do see and realize this, but it truly isn’t the man decision on how the woman should decide weather it is to go through with a pregnancy or to choose abortion. All women when knowing they’re pregnant want to hear their mans prospective on the situation but when it comes down to it if you try to demanded her to go through with a pregnancy your gonna end up causing friction within the relationship.

Each guy has there own unique way of dealing with and abortion. sometimes it is immediate and impactful. Always hovering over his conscious. Other times the guy may agree with the abortion and feels neutral. He may support it and some even abandon their partner but note that I said some!! This means that others won”t.

37.Jim Vicary | April 19, 2013 at 3:02 am

As a man, I’d be more than happy to never speak of abortion again if, say, men really we’re taken out of the equation. So let’s begin: Overturn Roe v. Wade immediately, since it was a Supreme Court decision arrived at by nine MEN. Scrub it from the books and start over. While we’re doing that, please stop taking tax dollars out of my paycheck, and the paychecks of every other man in the country, that go to help fund abortions and related abortion industries and costs. Finally, let’s fire all male abortion doctors (about 89 percent in the U.S.) and disregard all male votes on the matter in Congress (for or against). Sound good? I think so, too.

38.Anonymous | May 14, 2013 at 10:55 am

This was an awful article, such a biased view. As a man I hope I never meet you, because you would hat me just for a difference in chromosomes. just because woman carry children in their womb does not mean men love their children any less! To make sweeping statements like you did about the men that walk away is horrible, don’t tar everyone with the same brush luv.

39.Bobtsu | May 30, 2013 at 2:44 pm

The ultamite decision might be the woman’s but the man should be informed of those decisions throughout the process. You make seem as if all men are just there to knock a woman up and walk away.

40.David | June 5, 2013 at 8:35 pm

Men should have an equal say for the simple reason that the child is 50% his. It’s not solely the mother’s child.

Men are always told to “man up” and pay child support, because “it’s your child and you should have thought of the consequences before you had sex”. Any man who doesn’t want to pay child support is seen by society as someone who should have “kept it in his pants”. The same thing goes for you ladies. If you don’t want a child, use birth control or don’t have sex.

41.David | June 5, 2013 at 11:22 pm

Also, I find it funny that you say men should have no say in abortion when it was medical advances by men that made safe and effective abortion possible in the first place.

42.Dani Sherlee | July 15, 2013 at 7:24 am

The author of this article is clearly talking about men’s say in abortion as it relates to law, meaning that men should not have a say in a law limiting a woman’s right to an abortion. Are some of the comments from readers who did not bother to actually read the article, or did they not understand it? Perhaps because they are simply blinded by their own arrogance.

43.kathy | August 15, 2013 at 10:10 am

You are obviously sexist against men. The past is the past. To say men made laws while we women were mothers is like saying, “blacks were slaves so they should be handed shortcuts around whites”. Be a strong woman and simply be mutual with men.

44.JC | September 16, 2013 at 9:50 pm

When the man wants to abort and the woman chooses to keep it, the man should at least have an option to back out of it. It’s downright sexist to not allow the man to choose to separate himself, at least legally.

You say men “have it made in the shade”, but only women have the luxury of separating intimacy from procreation because of the security offered by having the option to abort. Men don’t get that separation – intimacy and procreation are intertwined and the only “choice” they get is to abstain.

Why is a woman’s sexual freedom held above that of a man’s? Why should it be “risk” for a man, and “intimacy” for a woman?

This isn’t feminismonline, this is sexismonline.

45.Mrs_Independent | February 6, 2014 at 1:29 am

All you smart ass men talking shit really shouldn’t have a say. Its really up to the woman. Just let your ass get raped and have an unexpected child that you can’t afford to take care of. Women are as great as men, and you have no proof men were created first either way that’s not important. You wouldn’t be here without women, last time I checked you came from a mother who had to go through sickness carry you for 9 months and go through hours of painful labor and you disrespect her by saying men have all the authority. Its rare but women can die from childbirth! You cant understand the hardship so shut up!!!!!!!

46.Corey edler | March 25, 2014 at 3:59 pm

I feel sorry for the human who wrote this. Your mind is some were else. To sit here and go back and fourth with you. Would mean that i considered you might have had some good resources or knowledgeable back ground. But all i can say is wow.

47.dave bowen | July 14, 2014 at 3:41 pm

Hey guys,keep in your pants and this issue is moot!!

48.Mason | November 22, 2014 at 8:47 pm

Men’s freedom of choice end at contraception. Women’s freedom of choice doesn’t really end until around birth. A man has no say if he wants to raise a child after having sex. Yet, a woman can abort the fetus if she so wishes. The man has no say regarding if she aborts it or not, and she can then force the man to pay child support. How is this even remotely fair? After sex, a woman can abort the fetus by choice, but a man can’t force her to abort it. Additionally, say a man and woman have sex. What happens if the woman wants to abort, but the man wants to keep and raise the child? Women have all of the power as of now, and men should at the very least have a fucking say.

49.sarah | March 31, 2015 at 1:06 pm

This is so right, thank you for writing this article. It’s easy for men to condemn women that have had to make the difficult decision of an abortion when all they have to do is bust a *** and then criticize a woman for having to deal with the consequences. Pigs. (Not all men just the ones who put women down for their act)

50.Understanding | May 13, 2015 at 3:44 am

I do understand why some men want to have say because not all men don’t want a child and when they hear that they don’t have as much control over whether they get one they are sometimes upset I even have a friend and his wife aborted the baby before they could even at least talk and is now going through depression and every week he goes to psychiatrist and he just hasn’t been the same ever since.

51.Perry Moore | May 18, 2015 at 5:13 am

to you women who think men shouldn’t have a right or , its not a baby til its a baby need to realize its a baby at conception, it doesn’t change shape when it comes out therefore it is still a baby in the womb, but anyway and the one who says its not the mans baby need to realize if he created the baby via his sperm, it is HIS BABY automatically not just at birth so get it right, a man SHOULD have every right to STOP an abortion, not force one but to STOP one to protect HIS unborn child as it is just as much his as it is hers

52.Neil | October 29, 2015 at 4:19 pm

Anyone who refers to an unborn as a ‘foreign object’ and an ‘invasion’ should have no say on abortion.

” Men have never been in the position of having a foreign object growing in their bodies and being told it would be immoral to want that object removed. Men cannot relate to the feeling personal invasion brought about by an unwanted pregnancy..”

53.MP | November 6, 2015 at 4:47 pm

Men should get a say, because they are humans. And they have a right to an opinion, and an influence, on what happens to their unborn daughters and sons.

54.Janet Luo | January 12, 2016 at 8:58 pm

PERFECTLY said.

55.Anonymous | January 15, 2016 at 3:23 pm

Everything you said about men leaving can be true, but it is not as universally true as you imply. Men should not ever leave when they impregnate a woman. They should share equal responsibility for the child, and if they do they therefore should have an equal say in the abortion matter.

56.wizengamete | February 22, 2016 at 6:44 pm

look, if we accept that casual sex and abortion are here to stay, then the obvious thing is to extend these ‘privileges’ to men. I’m unwilling to force a woman to carry a baby to term, if the man is against abortion. I’m also unwilling to force the man to pay for a child he doesn’t want, if the woman can freely abort with no-one having any say in the matter. Solution? Don’t expect anything from a booty call/random hook-up. Guys-that floozy, flaky airhead bimbo is gonna flush your seed down the toilet if it interferes with her margarita schedule. Girls, that loutish horny slack-jawed yolo thug is not going to be reliable father material for the long (18+ year long) haul.

SO how does this play out? Men who don’t want their progeny pulped, and women who are averse to deadbeats with zero attention span, should do some vetting before gettn bizzzay.’Courtship’, they used to call it. Yadigg? We moderns get so hung up on our innovative ways of life, that we lose sight of what really matters. See, traditions survived for a reason, and we don’t have to reinvent them. The main innovation consists in making what was mandatory, optional. If the option exists, if casual sex truly is casual, then it must be so for both. Failing that, people should look for a partner with traditional values, get to know them socially, before knowing them, uh, bibilcally.

57.PleaseStopHatingMenBecauseWeAllLoveYou | May 17, 2016 at 11:24 pm

That’s all good, but seeing as how women can shirk their responsibilities to raise the LIVING being inside them with no say from men simply because they do not want a child, then men should not have to pay child support if they do not want a child. Marriage is the greatest institution and it is being made a mockery these days. The government has essentially replaced fathers (money, food, housing) so why have a man in your home contradicting you when you can take his children and force him and society to take care of the entire family. The divorce rate is so high that our children’s role models are nothing but the fathers of children they cannot see either. Do you see the problem with what you are supporting? My mother admitted to my family that she lied in court and had OUR rights to see OUR father stripped from us for most of our childhoods as revenge against my father and left enormous physiological problems with a few of my brothers. Even though the court wrote it down as my father lost his rights, it was not like that to us. Watch what you say because you will be judged in the next life for irresponsibly encouraging the destruction of human life and marriage, God’s greatest gift to us. I will pray for you even though you act as though I do not care for you or women.

58.David Melechinsky | May 22, 2016 at 2:09 am

You feel that men have no right to an opinion about abortion. Thank you. But do you really believe that? Please use your brain. Because you have just declared “Roe v. Wade” null and void! Why? What was the Roe decision, if not an opinion about abortion that was written by seven males, who, by your own reckoning, have no right to an opinion on the subject?

The fact of the matter is that legalized abortion has nothing to do with women’s rights and everything to do with men being able to treat unlimited numbers of women as sex toys without having to take on the commitment or responsibility of being a loving husband and father. This was observed by a number of women in the comments above. There is much evidence to suggest that most abortions are done on women who are pressured, even forced, to undergo them by others, most notably the the jerks who cruelly used them and will eventually toss them aside like a used kleenex.

There are still men who are caring, loving, committed, faithful husbands and fathers who take an active role in raising their children. I am one of them, and I personally know many more. Our wives are good strong women, who love being wives and mothers, and delight in being truly feminine. Not one would ever even consider an abortion. These families have lots of children, who rejoice in having many brothers, sisters and cousins to play with. Such things still happen in this “enlightened, liberated” barbaric world.

In reality, no one has a right to have an “opinion” about abortion. Abortion, when done deliberately, is always wrong, because it is against the Laws of the God who created us. That which God has forbidden has no room for opinions, and no court, president or congress has the authority to change that, anymore than they can by law make our round world flat, make 2+2=5, change iron into gold, men into women, or sodomy into marriage.

Please wake up to the fact that the so-called women’s rights movement is actually a war on women, instigated and financed by wealthy elitist males, designed to force all women into sex slavery to all men. I, for one, do not want to see that happen, and I don’t think you do either. But it is happening right now, very rapidly, and only a massive refusal by members of both sexes, united in common cause against the hedonist ruling class, can stop it.