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Nice going Nick, at least you found a positive spin … but I cannot. There is nothing in these stats or those you provided yesterday to recommend this guy as the OC to make this team better. He is a middle to end of the pack kind of guy, and has been for 32 years. Are we expecting this guy to suddenly blossom? At 62 years of age thet would definitely qualify his as a “late bloomer”.

Jack

Enjoy your furlough week. This economy sucks.

I wonder if JR was ever an OC where the Head Coach had the same philosophy as
Coach Sing.

I don’t know if Sing really plans to have 3-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust offense or if he
overstated that to show his differences with the Martz/Whisenhunt ,and to some
extent Tomlin no FB, empty backfield on 3rd and 1, etc).

I do think that a mistake that Nolan made was not to have an offensive philosophy and to have the philosophy vary with each OC. With Sing’s way if JR leaves, it sounds like
the philosophy won’t change as long as Sing is the Head Coach. That makes sense if you are a defensive oriented coach dependent upon someone else to run your offense.

Of course if you have a franchise QB such as Tom, Payton, Ben, etc it doesn’t seem to matter who the OC is. How many OC’s have the Pat’s had and have any them gone on
to greatest somewhere else? I can’t think of any.

Bill Morgan

Maybe it’s just that Singletary realizes that NFL offenses are so conservative anyway, all you need is a competent guy who is not going to talk back to the head coach. I mean, have you seen any offensive geniuses in the NFL lately? Any Bill Walshes, or Sid Gillmans? We all know what Mike wants to do: Run-Run-Pass-if-you-have-to.

cesar

am I the only one that thinks that the 49ers made a huge mistake??

BEETLE BEILHARZ

YOU GUYS ARE NOT SEEING THE BIG PICTURE IN THE HIRING OF JRAY.
SING KNOWS WHAT HE WANTS ON OFFENSE AND JRAY HAS ALLOT OF CONNECTIONS WITH COLLEGES AROUND THE NATION SO MAYBE JRAY KNOWS WHO TO DRAFT AND THERE’S ALLOT OF STAFF LEFT OVER FROM THE TURNER ERA THAT THE NINER’S WILL BE FINE. THE BIRDS LOST THEIR OC TO THE CHIEFS AND THE NINER’S HAVE WR’S THAT ARE READY TO BREAK OUT. A BIGGER CONCERN IS IF VERNON DAVIS EVER GOING TO HAVE A GOOD SEASON. LOOK WHAT SING DID WITH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. GIVE THEM A CHANCE AND YOU WILL BE SWALLOWING YOUR WORDS.

dimitri

Mike Tomlin said some things that stick out in my mind after winnng the Super bowl. He said unlike most teams we practice most 3rd down situations, inside the red-zone plays and goal line plays during practice. He goes on to say, those plays are the highlights you see on ESPN after every game. The 3 yards and a cloud of dust philosophy seems to be an opposite of the Steelers winning formula. Problem is our team has to start with the basics. Not to encouraging….

The defensive side of the ball how ever will hopefully benefit from Sing’s disciplined/tough coaching style. Steelers would obviosly not be in the playoffs to begin with if not for that #1 ranked D…

Marco

Success starts at the top. If everyone can agree on this simple fact, then the 49ers will continue to be doomed. The organizational structure of our beloved 49ers is a joke. Jed the boy-king, who is as qualified as any fan sitting at Candlestick. Scot McCloughan, 36 years old and spineless with VERY questionable draft results. Mike Singletary, a religious fruit-cake who has never been a coordinator, and who wants to take the team back to the days of Woody Hayes. Add to this trifecta, no frachise QB, no pass rush, and a new OC who is the definition of mediocre, and what we 49er fans have is many more years of the Yorks disasterous stewardship.

You guys (most of you) are the epitome of “shoot and ask questions later.” Look, I was as shocked as the next guy at the hiring of JRII. I was a supporter of Martz. I prefer the pass to 3 yds and a cloud of dust; I prefer the WCO to the Baltimore Boring excuse for O.
But, really, none of us has a basis to be so critical. The most we can reasonably say is, “we’re in the dark,” “we don’t know.” We really don’t know what Sing intends for O. We really don’t know what Sing expects to get out of JRII. You all have your interpretations, but way too little real facts upon which to reach a conclusion. We just have to wait and see. Sometimes it is just more adult to keep your mouth shut and wait and see.

I bleed red and gold

You guys are like a bunch of old women bickering. Our strength is Gore. Dickerson set the NFL record with JR as the OC. Martz didn’t do nearly enough with our most talented player. He also got 4K yards out of a quarterback named Elvis by utilizing the Tight End. Another very under-utilized player who we happened to spend a #6 pick on. Sing simply picked a guy whose greatest successes matched teams with our strengths. Martz was a mismatch from the beginning. It may not end up being the most exciting offense, but it will probably still win games. Low risk, high percentage, play to our strengths football. Not flashy, but effective. I’ll take that over high turnover, no playoffs football any day.

Victor

nobody singletary could have hired would have been as effective as mike martz. i dont care about the people who say oh singletary is matching to our strengths and that’s how it’s gonna go. martz balanced out his attack near the tail end of the season and definitely got decent production out of gore. who here watched the superbowl? who here thinks that running the football won it for the steelers? who here watched last years superbowl? who here thinks that tyree and burress are runningbacks? you cant win without a stud quarterback and reciever. you cant choke off half of an offensive game and expect to win no matter how tough you are.

KezarMike

Pedestrian….run of the mill…mediocre…Victor, you are totally SPOT ON!!!

BG

#13

If gore is going to be getting 30 carrys a game he better learn how to hold on to the ball. I hold my breath everytime he touches it.

latopia

Thanks for the excellent work on Jimmy Raye DB.

It affirms Raye’s ability to squeeze production from mediocre talent, squeeze more from better-to-exceptional talent.

I’d only be concerned about Raye’s personality if players or peers found it to be counterproductive at previous stops — or — if Singletary deferred to Raye *solely* because of his age in any arising conflict btw Raye and staff/players. Otherwise, this fan is perfectly willing — for now — to trust Singletary’s leadership and integrity to do the right thing no matter who’s involved.

ninerfan

How can you say he hasn’t been last yet!? 28th in 1990 was last!! It wasn’t till 96 or 97 that Carolina and Jacksonville were both added to give the NFL 30 teams. Cleveland came back in 99, for 31. Then Houston in, I believe, 2002, for 32 and the realignment of the NFL.

So, for these stats. I think I’ll just take the “wait and see” approach. I don’t know this guy. But, he has been in the NFL for 30+ years. All we can do is hope this guy is as good as we hope he is.

jimmyb

Unfortuanateley, with this hire I see Mike Nolan all over again. The whole process has been a debackle from beginning to end. Completely un-inspired, directionless, and void of strong leadership. Again the 49ers seem to be blowin in the wind and searching for stability. I hope I’m wrong, because I love the 9ers but I’m not feeling very confident right now.

9ers fan in IL

Wow….. I didn’t realize that you guys sound like a bunch of Cubs fans!!!! I’m glad this site doesn’t represent the majority of 49er fans….you guys are embarassing

I’ll wait until September to cry about Jimmy Raye’s offense, if there’s something to cry about. Right now I’m crying that there’s no football.

Pmyster

Yeah, these bloggers are really whiners. I told myself thats not true, but now I am wrong. All negative. We really do not know a thing about Jimmy Raye at all to hang him out to dry is kind of rediculus. The guy writing this article is trying to find fault in this guy JR, which is reaching and is piss poor to tell you. It does not matter what he did in the past it matters now what he does right now I will be laughing at this if we get into the playoffs.

30OC25BB08SY

Hey guys:
I have two questiions:
1. Who is this guy Johnson the new QB’s coach?
2. Did Raye hire him or appointed by Singletary(hired)?
Thanks

Scrop

Aw, come on. It’s always “personal” when one ducks out for a week.

Sharkalchemy

it’s worth reminding that the previous OC, Mike Martz, considered a guru of offense by many, couldn’t figure out JTO was a lost cause for all those games while it took Singletary one half to figure it out. so much for experience on the offense side of the ball, alot of it just comes down to circumstance but I also think Singetary’s convictions are infectious for the team…ergo, an effective coach.

Leonard Bonilla

When the 9ers announced Ray’s hiring I thought Singeltary was engaging in the African American version of “Good Ole Boy” employment. But after giving it some thought I recognize that he is doing what most Managers do, they hire people who think like they do but with less talent so they don’t become a threat. We can look forward to low scoring games and maybe a few more wins but no playoff this season. Even Pittsburgs defense couldn’t stop Arizona’s offense they had to “Out Offense” them. Arizona will win the west again and SF will finish second or third. Now, I will modify my declaration by saying Arizona lost their Offensive coordinator so lets see howe much consistancy their head coach can maintain on offense with a new coordinator? Hmmmmmmm!

Brandon

We are not going to be the beast of the NFC but we only finished 2 games behind Arizona and should of beat them once! If they lose Warner and/or Boldin it could be very interesting to see how they bounce back and if they can overcome the usual “Superbowl hangover”

You guys are really jumping the gun on this one. Nevermind the culture change form MS’s practice. Like Iverson said it’s practice, wait until the offseason and a MS training camp followed by the emergence of VDavis. Wityh the right draft choices and Free Agent acquisitioons the 49ers could be a threat. Then again with our qb situation the 49ers could be above .500 S Hill is 7-3 as a starter dont let the bad times ruin optimism. Frankly if Martz and Nolan kept Shaun Hill out with a tired arm so JTO could start they should have fired him with Nolan.

todd49er

99% of niner fans were ecstatic about Sing elevating our team last half and signing a long term contract to be head coach. Now people are whining because we hired an OC that fits Sing’s football vision? Sex sells i guess but it doesn’t bring a Super Bowl. Pittsburgh got there and won it because of defense. JR has done great things with a premier back like gore is and a premier tight end like VD should be. The team has 25 million to spend on free agents to go get what we need and the niners SHOULD have beaten the cardinals once last year and been the NFC West playoff team. Things are looking up, stop whining and let’s get fired up!