Thursday, January 10, 2013

I read it in the Hamodia yesterday and almost fell off my chair! except that I was standing when I read it... For years you'd see the small posters announcing his weekly shiur in Telsher shtiebel minyan... Truth be told it's a fascinating life's story, how he went from almost being a college boy to a maggid and baal mussar of world renown. (כידוע דער סיפור מיט א חסיד פון אלטער רבי'ן וועלכע האט געהאט א חבר א חסיד פון ר' חייקל'ן שקינא בחבירו שהי' מתפלל בהתלהבות גדולה ונכנס ליחידות לרבו ושפך לבו שאין לו את ההתלהבות שיש לחבירו - וענה לו רבינו הגדול: "ער ברענט דען? ר' חייקל ברענט אין אים!) His ancestor Reb Shmuel of Hamdur sat in prison because of chassidus! Isn't it a shayleh of אל תטוש תורת אמך to abandon that rich heritage? I realize that he was "born again" - sorry about that - as a mekabel from the Mashgiach Reb Chatzkel, but RYL passed away some 40 years ago, right as he was turning 40... Forty is when you can start learning Kabboloh. Substitute Chassidus for Kabboloh and voila!

33 comments:

I'm sure that there is more to his background than just being a banshak... As you wrote, he almost became a college boy, so whoever saved his soul must have become his moreh derech. Like most almost college boys, he wasn't brought up in a chasidishe enviroment to be able to wonder why he should look further than his rebbe reb chatzkel.

Siz noch nit Purim said...Shinu Minhogim was by the GRA, on a bigger scale then by chasidim,According to the Masseh rav he said he wants to go Eretz Yisroel to rid himself from Minhogie Poilin.ez iz noch nisht Purim in Vilna too,The strongest thing by klal yisroel was that all have to adhere to the shulchan orech, and the RA was revolutionary in that, he went straight to chazal as if there is no mesorah to pasken according the shulchan orech

funny that the tzig would be surprised how an aynikel of one the magids talmidim would become such a gronikwhat,tzig never heard of "stokholm syndrome"? i mean, thats the way i"ve understood his "hiskashrres" (double r for fake so calles russian "nusach")

I believe I read somewhere that R' Chaikel of Amdur was a Talmid of the GR"A before he become a chassid of the Maggid (I may have seen it in R' E. Schochet's book "The Great Maggid", don't have it now to check it up.)

the vilna gaon is known with the title chosid, let's not fool ourselves today's chasidim have no connection to the chsidim of the bash"t Reb shlomo Brevda was a chosid hamischased bekono and a yid in that madreiga wouldn't waist his time by today's so-called chasidim

Gershy"According to you he changed them anyway.So why did he have to go to Eretz Yisroel?"are this facts,from chabad sources? I like the way people like you get excited, when you hear new facts that your rebbe and your father never knew, then you start cursing and hurling slurs at Chabad as if the Kabalah in the Rambam is a chabad issue, You are a ferd and proud to be a ferd

Reb Shlaymeh went in the derech of kama vekama gedaylei eylam, from Chasidic backgrounds, who came back to the gemara, returned to the derech of their heilige avois, old fashioned pre Hasidic Yiddishkeit, nusach Ashkenaz, and so on. Like Rav Chatzkel, as mentioned above, the Steipler, Rav Ruderman, Rav Noach and Rav Shmuel Yaakov Weinberg, the chavrusa of - yblct"a - Rav Chaim Kanievsky, recently niftar, an einikel of the R. Avrohom hamalach and the maggid, etc., etc.

B"H there is a teshuvah movement and people are going back to the way of their heilige avois.

We hope that you too, HT, and your chevra, will also join the movement and return to the heiliger derech of old.

Can you enlighten me, who is the heintige Amdurer Rebbe? Where is Amdurer Chasidus today?

Yagdil Torah: The GRA didn't make his own siddur for masses to change to like the Alter Rebbe did. In Lita, including Vilna, they conducted themseves as they did before the GRA basically, except perhaps in the GRA's kloiz and some yechidim.

cheikel Brentare you kidding? not the lakewood'rs and not anyone especially litvaks have no connection whatsoever to the rishoinim kemalochim, the little yidishkeit they have is ONLY thanks to the so-called chasidim-my remarks regarding rabbi brevda was since he was a Yankee and zchus ovos helped him to b a erlicha yid and he grew much more then the ordinary so for him to b connected to today's chasidim would b a chisoron

"are this facts,from chabad sources? I like the way people like you get excited, when you hear new facts that your rebbe and your father never knew, then you start cursing and hurling slurs at Chabad as if the Kabalah in the Rambam is a chabad issue, You are a ferd and proud to be a ferd"

snag"Reb Shlaymeh went in the derech of kama vekama gedaylei eylam, from Chasidic backgrounds, who came back to the gemara,"did he write anything on Nigleh? or only mussar, hashkofa and Kabola?I have a feeling their is not much Nigleh, check it our by your snag brothers

Snag"Yagdil Torah: The GRA didn't make his own siddur for masses to change to like the Alter Rebbe did. In Lita, including Vilna, they conducted themseves as they did before the GRA basically, except perhaps in the GRA's kloiz and some yechidim."what does it matter if included the masses? the Gra in particular was no manhig yisroel, he was a Goan and dealt with Geonim only, but in his circle he revolunized evrything..

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