What do you guys think, this or the earlier posted laptop for Acer Swift 1 13.3 at argos, for £349 (it went up from £329 - *pants* ). It has an ips 1080p screen, but poor processor. I dont know how good this processor is, but it does have touchscreen :), and is £50 off. Just something simple and fun to bring my mum into the computing world

4Gb of RAM should still be fine for most people - if you have more RAM, then of course Windows will grab it. But I think you can run Windows 10 with 1Gb although I think Microsoft has now upped the minimum requirements to 2Gb. Anyway Argos answers says the RAM is upgradeable but voids your warranty....I personally don't think you would have to bother

The real problem is the screen....it's not 1080p, it's only 720p....and it's probably not IPS, it doesn't say IPS anywhere. And IPS is a big feature if it were true. IPS screens are amazingly better than crappy TFT panels. If you are shelling out £400 then I would want one, but for some strange reason they are still not common like they are on tablets and phones

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9th Nov 2017

I don't know. Seems nice but 4GB Ram nowadays is just not enough. I quickly checked my system and Windows 10 on its own eats away 4.1G RAM and if I have a browser open with some tabs, and a word processor I am in 6-7G easily.

These are only deals if you can upgrade the RAM later, but most of these devices actually have the RAM soldered to the motherboard.

4Gb of RAM should still be fine for most people - if you have more RAM, then of course Windows will grab it. But I think you can run Windows 10 with 1Gb although I think Microsoft has now upped the minimum requirements to 2Gb. Anyway Argos answers says the RAM is upgradeable but voids your warranty....I personally don't think you would have to bother

The real problem is the screen....it's not 1080p, it's only 720p....and it's probably not IPS, it doesn't say IPS anywhere. And IPS is a big feature if it were true. IPS screens are amazingly better than crappy TFT panels. If you are shelling out £400 then I would want one, but for some strange reason they are still not common like they are on tablets and phones

Poor CPU? Pentium 4415U has a Passmark of 3218, nothing wrong in that, …Poor CPU? Pentium 4415U has a Passmark of 3218, nothing wrong in that, it's about the same as an old i5https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+4415U+@+2.30GHz4Gb of RAM should still be fine for most people - if you have more RAM, then of course Windows will grab it. But I think you can run Windows 10 with 1Gb although I think Microsoft has now upped the minimum requirements to 2Gb. Anyway Argos answers says the RAM is upgradeable but voids your warranty....I personally don't think you would have to botherThe real problem is the screen....it's not 1080p, it's only 720p....and it's probably not IPS, it doesn't say IPS anywhere. And IPS is a big feature if it were true. IPS screens are amazingly better than crappy TFT panels. If you are shelling out £400 then I would want one, but for some strange reason they are still not common like they are on tablets and phones

I bought a HP Stream 11" for my wife last year, and when I upgraded to Windows 10 have had nothing but problems with it.it won't even stay connected to the WiFi. Would this be because of the RAM? I'm at a complete loss, but it's practically made the laptop useless as Windows 10 Upgrade took up all the available memory. Been looking at Lenovo IdeaPad 14" with 4gb Ram and 1TB...but could do with help from someone who is a bit tech savvy

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10th Nov 2017

I bought a similar one for the missus a year ago, RAM upgrade to 8GB cost me £20. Might be wrong but don't think these come with the RAMs soldered.

I bought a HP Stream 11" for my wife last year, and when I upgraded to …I bought a HP Stream 11" for my wife last year, and when I upgraded to Windows 10 have had nothing but problems with it.it won't even stay connected to the WiFi. Would this be because of the RAM? I'm at a complete loss, but it's practically made the laptop useless as Windows 10 Upgrade took up all the available memory. Been looking at Lenovo IdeaPad 14" with 4gb Ram and 1TB...but could do with help from someone who is a bit tech savvy

No. It’ll be something wrong with the WiFi chip, or maybe even the router itself (when we turn my grandmothers computer on, it stops the WiFi working momentarily for some reason). I would suggest trying to revert back to windows 8 or even 7 and see if it makes a difference

10th Nov 2017

Just don't. Anything below i5 CPU is useles these days. There are some nice deals on this site where you can buy a real computer:Link 1Link 2

I bought a HP Stream 11" for my wife last year, and when I upgraded to …I bought a HP Stream 11" for my wife last year, and when I upgraded to Windows 10 have had nothing but problems with it.it won't even stay connected to the WiFi. Would this be because of the RAM? I'm at a complete loss, but it's practically made the laptop useless as Windows 10 Upgrade took up all the available memory. Been looking at Lenovo IdeaPad 14" with 4gb Ram and 1TB...but could do with help from someone who is a bit tech savvy

If the wifi was fine when you were on windows 7/8 then it's likely that windows 10 has not installed the best drivers for your wifi chip. Your best bet may be to look up the driver page for your specific laptop model on HP's website and manually install the correct wifi drivers. You could start by searching : HP [model number] drivers on google

11th Nov 2017

People don’t understand RAM and how it’s used now. If you have lots of RAM applications will use it, as RAM is there to be used. If you have less they’ll use less, applications won’t necessarily be slower either, it’s highly dependant on what you’re doing. Chrome uses lots of RAM if you have a lot of RAM available purely because it’s a cheap way of making an application feel faster than it is.

I bought a HP Stream 11" for my wife last year, and when I upgraded to …I bought a HP Stream 11" for my wife last year, and when I upgraded to Windows 10 have had nothing but problems with it.it won't even stay connected to the WiFi. Would this be because of the RAM? I'm at a complete loss, but it's practically made the laptop useless as Windows 10 Upgrade took up all the available memory. Been looking at Lenovo IdeaPad 14" with 4gb Ram and 1TB...but could do with help from someone who is a bit tech savvy

Check the drivers are all using the latest versions, if they are then try using an older version for the WiFi see if that helps.

Failing that I'd flatten Windows & start again with a fresh install of 10 (backup your stuff first). I'm always wary when people say they're having problems & it's after an upgrade.

I don't know. Seems nice but 4GB Ram nowadays is just not enough. I …I don't know. Seems nice but 4GB Ram nowadays is just not enough. I quickly checked my system and Windows 10 on its own eats away 4.1G RAM and if I have a browser open with some tabs, and a word processor I am in 6-7G easily.These are only deals if you can upgrade the RAM later, but most of these devices actually have the RAM soldered to the motherboard.

I think your system is just bogged down by stuff. I can browse the web, stream YouTube and virtualise a second instance of windows 10 on Hyper V using around 80% of 4GB on a 6 year old processor, with no performance issues.