Greg Halman Killed

Mariners outfielder Greg Halman was killed early this morning, Dutch police told the Associated Press. Halman was stabbed to death, and his brother has been arrested as a suspect. Halman, 24, was a native of the Netherlands.

Kidnappings, stabbing. It’s really unfortunate and there is no happy ending for this one. Thoughts are with his family and if his brother really is the culprit…he is one messed up dude. What on this earth is worth killing your brother for?

The Nats catcher Ramos is probably taking it especially hard given what
he went through thinking he was going to be killed as well. This may
really open some big wounds including survivors guilt despite unrelated
events.

His brother killed him. Just assuming, but they most likely knew each other very well and probably got into an altercation that turned sour. I’m not sure why you would think Ramos would feel guilty. Should Ramos now feel guilty every time someone is violently killed anywhere in the world? Not sure how the two are related whatsoever.

Pot calling the kettle black? I’m sorry, I thought this was MLTBR not a memorial site you put up in Greg’s memory. I won’t apologize for voicing my opinion on a public forum using appropriate and respectful wording.

Oldoak33, what Ramos went through will impact him, traumatize him for the rest of his life far greater than has been broached in public and perhaps what Ramos is yet to experience.

Now today, a young man, Halman, a member of the tight knit baseball community, is murdered at 24, same age as Ramos who somehow managed to escape death literally with a gun pressed up against his hand and forcefully taken, his life on the line every moment for 51 hours, but for him, not knowing the outcome until it occurred. The chances are good Ramos knew Halman or knows someone who did. In traumatic events, people feel survivors guilt quite frequently and I think there’s reasonable chance Ramos is trying to wrap his arms around his fate – that he survived – while a fellow big leaguer just fell to a violent death….but for the grace of God go I.

You ask, “Should Ramos feel guilty?” The keyword is “should.” One cannot rationalize what is a powder keg of emotion, post-traumatic stress disorder and triggers that will impact Ramos in the months and years ahead.

Ramos has suffered a traumatic event, and frankly, many Latin American ball players have suffered through violence (events that don’t make the news here) in their respective countries. They are targets, they lead lives of fortune and tragedy at the same time. I have many friends that are Latin American ball players, and the stories they’ve shared show the unbelievable contrast between our country and theirs. I have spent brief stints playing in Latin America, it is a different world, especially for targets such as a ball player that has made a living in The States.

I am not unaware of emotions and psychological impacts facing Ramos, but in the world he lives in, violence is all around him. I’m sure he’s lost friends or family members to his country’s environment. Kidnappings, killings and corruption are part of everyday life in Venezuela. I am not doubting Ramos is severely traumatized, but I simply assert that Wilson Ramos has likely witnessed crime and tragedy that we here in the states cannot comprehend. I assert that emotionally and mentally, Ramos has endured a lot more than we credit him for. I apologize if I offended anyone. As part of the professional baseball community I take these two separate events extremely seriously and my prayers go out to every victim of violence.

Sorry I didn’t get around to responding until now. I meant to say that I found this comment was extremely insightful, and, I believe, quite accurate. It may be true that Ramos has lived in a society plagued by violence, as have many other latinos, but the fact remains that no one who has done so remains unaffected by it, regardless of whether the effects are visible or not. So regardless of what he may be used to, it is quite likely that at some point Ramos may find himself reflecting on his fate vs. that of Halman, and feel the effects you describe…because he is human. Living in a different world is not sufficient to take that away, no matter what coping skills he may have acquired.

Baseball Lost a great guy… very fun guy to be around and to talk to. I remember the first time I met Halman, I wanted to sign him to use our Batting gloves and glove, He was very polite when he told me he was very happy with the service his batting glove company was giving him and he wantd to stay loyal.
Baseball need guys like Greg… my thoughts and prayers go to his family that really lost 2 of its kids, may God forgive his brother for what he did.

RIP Greg Halman, he had a promising future he was incredibly athletic and could spray the ball to all fields. Truly a sad day for fans, the mariners, and his family. And i just dont understand how someone could kill their own brother, let alone one as amiable and hard working.
Prayers to Greg and his family

It’s outrageous how back of the bus many media treated this story when it broke as if it has no impact on so many. If this had occurred during the season, it would have been Nick Adenhart tragic all over again.