This year I'm bringing a Honda EU2000i generator to help with a little light show and other creature comforts for ourselves and visitors.

My wife wants to put it under a table that is then covered with a cloth. She is mainly worried about it being stolen. I'm thinking that's what metal guards and chains and locks are for.

I'm worried that it's going to be too hot and dangerous to put under a table and you wouldn't want to sit near it because of the heat it will give off. But I'm getting the EU2000i because of its legendary quietness so maybe that's a fine way to stash it. Do you whisper generator owners agree?

Definitely don't want it totally covered--at least not when it's running. Though, if the cloth is just draped over like a tablecloth, there probably would be enough breeze. But then you would probably be able to see the generator when the wind blows. Go with your first instinct and chain it to something.

JKhttp://www.mudskippercafe.comWhen I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me

Thanks for replying. Also, I hear it's best to put something under it so it doesn't dig itself into the playa. Is a piece of plywood sufficient or also unsafe? Or could you suggest something that doesn't require a lot of DIY skills on my part?

DesmondDoomsday wrote:Thanks for replying. Also, I hear it's best to put something under it so it doesn't dig itself into the playa. Is a piece of plywood sufficient or also unsafe? Or could you suggest something that doesn't require a lot of DIY skills on my part?

We have never had that problem with our big gene or the small one. Though after the rain scare last year, putting it on a slightly raised platform might not be a bad idea. But your Honda is so small and light you could easily pick it up and carry it to shelter. Another guy in our camp had a Honda, and if I remember correctly he had it sitting on an overturned milk crate.

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Coming from the girl who's uncle hides his rare coins collection in the clothes dryer...

To conceal it: I would take a large cardboard box or plastic tote (large enough to leave a good couple inch gap between generator and sides), cut the bottom out of it, and plop it right on top of the generator. Throw a piece of masking tape on the side and label it with something random like "kitchen supplies" or "tarps". It would be tall enough to hide the generator from a side view (no need for a closed lid), and it looks like a box of camping crap when the wind flaps your table cloth up. Test that set-up before though to check for overheating, this is all coming straight from my imagination and extremely limited generator experience.

To secure it: chain and lock that baby up to something secure (your car/truck/RV/float plane like everyone else has said).

Fufa's advice seems excellent to me, though I doubt hiding it will work while running, past screencloth or a very open container as Figjam mentioned.

When stopped, hiding it as random something should work, moreso if it is around other random stuff.

i think locks are still called for.Be sure to use real security chain, abus, masterlock or equivalent.There is a difference.

I used a 200 lb section of I beam and ran rods through the generator frame and the I beam and locked one end in place.The frame became the weak point.A cage would have been better.I intended to chain the result down as well, but the weight proved adequate for over two months in a high crime area, though while running, it may have seemed too obvious to tamper with.It was off for long periods and was never bothered.The combination was about 350 pounds.

I should have thought of covering it when not running, but it was loud and obvious when in use.

I could be wrong here, but I think that theft at BM are more crimes of opportunity; meaning that if someone's out walking, sees something in plain sight that they like and no one is around and it isn't strapped down, they might decide to take it; and those people are a small minority. So for the most part, any simple securement or concealment system would suffice.

That being said, the Burn nights might attract more determined thieves, as they know lots of camps might be empty.

So I guess what I'm saying is do whatever makes you feel comfortable, understanding that shit sometimes happens.

JKhttp://www.mudskippercafe.comWhen I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me

I once envisioned building a large space-age-looking machine that you would imagine is a fusion-powered warp-engine type contraption, while in dreary reality was just a bunch of sequenced lights and synthesized sounds, powered of course, by a genny deep within.

jkisha wrote:I could be wrong here, but I think that theft at BM are more crimes of opportunity; meaning that if someone's out walking, sees something in plain sight that they like and no one is around and it isn't strapped down, they might decide to take it; and those people are a small minority. So for the most part, any simple securement or concealment system would suffice.

That being said, the Burn nights might attract more determined thieves, as they know lots of camps might be empty.

So I guess what I'm saying is do whatever makes you feel comfortable, understanding that shit sometimes happens.

Maybe I haven't experienced this as I have always camped with a theme camp and there is almost always someone at our camp and it is pretty well lit. Don't know how living on the outer roads might be--at least not from practical experience.

JKhttp://www.mudskippercafe.comWhen I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me

jkisha wrote:Maybe I haven't experienced this as I have always camped with a theme camp and there is almost always someone at our camp and it is pretty well lit. Don't know how living on the outer roads might be--at least not from practical experience.

Ugly Dougly wrote:I once envisioned building a large space-age-looking machine that you would imagine is a fusion-powered warp-engine type contraption, while in dreary reality was just a bunch of sequenced lights and synthesized sounds, powered of course, by a genny deep within.

So, hide it in plain sight.

I have never had anything I hid stolen, including items I made to look broken, and in the open.

Another tactic is making things ugly, and highly identifiable.Destroying all resale value is another variation.Hide ID inside of items.Very effective.

I use metal stamps to stamp identification into high value items.Dremel or engraver, paint markers (nissen is the best so far, but a right pain in the ass to use.)Spray paint and stencils, etc.Mono epoxy will NOT come off with acetone.

Even when things fully marked get stolen, if they can't get much or anything for the stolen stuff, it can prevent return burglaries (in default), more the rule than a single.

We had some of the same kind of inconsiderate types last year. They put their generator away from their camp, so they obviously knew the undesirability of such a thing, and they instead placed it bordering right by our camp. This year, I'm going to bring an extra sheet of plywood or two along with some 2x4s and some foam board to frame up a sound reflector shield if need be.

Fufa wrote:Coming from the girl who's uncle hides his rare coins collection in the clothes dryer...

To conceal it: I would take a large cardboard box or plastic tote (large enough to leave a good couple inch gap between generator and sides), cut the bottom out of it, and plop it right on top of the generator. Throw a piece of masking tape on the side and label it with something random like "kitchen supplies" or "tarps". It would be tall enough to hide the generator from a side view (no need for a closed lid), and it looks like a box of camping crap when the wind flaps your table cloth up. Test that set-up before though to check for overheating, this is all coming straight from my imagination and extremely limited generator experience.

To secure it: chain and lock that baby up to something secure (your car/truck/RV/float plane like everyone else has said).

LOL, "Hidden in plain sight" until some drunk stumbles over it!My only thought here is that it has power cords running to it.

I'm with the 'Chain it to something huge' idea. Leave springs, bumper, hitch, etc. Even if you are driving a little car, there are probably tow rings either in the front or the back. I don't know about the Honda EU series, but with most other generators you need to be conscious of where the exhaust has to vent. It will burn the shit out of a Nylon dome tent. Depending on the generator, the smoke might also color stuff black.Another thought, the engine needs relatively fresh air. If the baffle box is too tight, it will choke out.

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Ugly Dougly wrote:I once envisioned building a large space-age-looking machine that you would imagine is a fusion-powered warp-engine type contraption...

Must be common to purple blotter...

Speaking of which I had a dream last night that zombies were chasing me and my brother (we've been on the outs for years) through Gerlach. We finally made it to BM and were totally fucked not being able to tell which were them and which were us. Just as we were being cornered I woke up to take a leak. It's times like that one wishes for a resume button on their forehead, not that I have a deathwish or anything, it just gives me the feeling of having the book I was reading spontaneously combust as I hit the last chapter, I hate when that happens.

I hadn't been involved in anything so vivid since, well, BM last year thanks to the kind folks in an adjacent camp.

I built a box out of plywood. In the same fasion as "Playatech" and lined it with carpet for sound dampening. I left an opening at the bottom and a gap at the top for air flow. This also allows for a chain to go through to lock to my trailer. It lies flat for transporting. I've been running it in my yard over the last few days, it's been in the low 90's here and a ugly fast and hard wind. So far so good.

TinkerMom wrote:I built a box out of plywood. In the same fasion as "Playatech" and lined it with carpet for sound dampening. I left an opening at the bottom and a gap at the top for air flow. This also allows for a chain to go through to lock to my trailer. It lies flat for transporting. I've been running it in my yard over the last few days, it's been in the low 90's here and a ugly fast and hard wind. So far so good.

The top is also covered?

We do a four sided box made out of two 4' x 8' pieces of plywood and lined with carpet. Noise seems to be absorbed and deflected up. Never had a complaint fam neighbors. But I'd be afraid to cover the top for fear of heat buildup.

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Keep it simple and buy a big chain and lock. Double wrap the chain where it is attached to the securing object and attach the lock in such a way that it is easy to open but hard to get at with bolt cutters. A large size chain and lock will deter someone with small bolt cutters.

Some very heavy high grade chain is available at metal scrap yards for scrap prices. Not good for lifting anymore but great for securing. In general the higher the number on the link the higher the strength. Some times 8, 80 and 800 = the same grade though.

There are hundreds of 2000i generators at the burn. A simple deterrent will go a long way. I would not worry about hiding it. Just lock it up like your going to do with your bike.

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TinkerMom wrote:I built a box out of plywood. In the same fasion as "Playatech" and lined it with carpet for sound dampening. I left an opening at the bottom and a gap at the top for air flow. This also allows for a chain to go through to lock to my trailer. It lies flat for transporting. I've been running it in my yard over the last few days, it's been in the low 90's here and a ugly fast and hard wind. So far so good.

The top is also covered?

We do a four sided box made out of two 4' x 8' pieces of plywood and lined with carpet. Noise seems to be absorbed and deflected up. Never had a complaint fam neighbors. But I'd be afraid to cover the top for fear of heat buildup.

The top just slides off, if needed. I've been watching for over heating, but we are a tad cooler up here, we are at 7,000 ft and just as dry if not drier. And it's not like I'm going to be running it for hours on end. Just once in a while to juice up whatever is needed. And maybe the blender......

Since we're talking generators here, I just wanted to add a reminder to change the oil and air filters. You don't want yours to go tits up during the event. I believe Honda calls for an oil change every 50-100hrs. Ours run almost 24/7 during the 2 weeks we're out there and we make sure to do at least one oil change during the event and that's at a bare minimum. Then lock it to your vehicle, put it on a board or a couple of bricks, keep it in the shade, vent the exhaust away from everyone, and don't worry too much about theft.

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