If you were leaning towards the MTs, you would not be disappointed! I have well over $5k into testing tires out for tooling around mostly in a straight line haha - If I'd used the MT's on my 01 GT instead of NT05Rs, I probably would have broken something - and that car was just bolt ons - I said it in the post you quoted and I'll say it again.. For how I drive the car and wanting instant grip on the street - I'd get the MT's again hands down.. They're also the same price as the 555Rs and a little cheaper than the NT05Rs in store (americas tire = discount tire direct)

The stickier the tire, generally, the less life it has. Drag radials can be street driven but are not necessarily made with the tire to be daily driven in mind. You have to decide what is more important. Additionally, the benefits a drag radial have over summer tires is only viable when the tire is heated before a launch. Without track burnouts, a drag radial isn't as effective. Street 'grip' will be the same if not slightly better or slightly worse than a quality summer tire. If you don't tack on too many miles, tread life wouldn't be bad when measured in time, not miles.

The stickier the tire, generally, the less life it has. Drag radials can be street driven but are not necessarily made with the tire to be daily driven in mind. You have to decide what is more important. Additionally, the benefits a drag radial have over summer tires is only viable when the tire is heated before a launch. Without track burnouts, a drag radial isn't as effective. Street 'grip' will be the same if not slightly better or slightly worse than a quality summer tire. If you don't tack on too many miles, tread life wouldn't be bad when measured in time, not miles.

A drag radial on the street doesn't need a burnout to grip, tracks are different, you're racing on a mix of VHT, asphalt and build up of other racer's rubber - I had summer tires on this before and even just going wot in second not even on the shift, car would break loose - with the ET streets it will hook any time unless I aggressively dump the clutch

BaSohol - I've not tried the Hoosiers as I've been unable to find them locally, and not true on the NT05rs- check out some comparison threads/videos and pretty sure a magazine had done a vs test

And you're right on the BFG and 555r - but they do offer better immediate grip than a typical street tire and they actually have some tread life

Also to note, I would actively avoid driving in any sort of heavy rain with the ET streets..

A drag radial on the street doesn't need a burnout to grip, tracks are different, you're racing on a mix of VHT, asphalt and build up of other racer's rubber - I had summer tires on this before and even just going wot in second not even on the shift, car would break loose - with the ET streets it will hook any time unless I aggressively dump the clutch

BaSohol - I've not tried the Hoosiers as I've been unable to find them locally, and not true on the NT05rs- check out some comparison threads/videos and pretty sure a magazine had done a vs test

And you're right on the BFG and 555r - but they do offer better immediate grip than a typical street tire and they actually have some tread life

Also to note, I would actively avoid driving in any sort of heavy rain with the ET streets..

Haha ya and the ETs suck in the rain but they also suck for traction On the street without heating them up, well not suck just work like a regular tire

A drag radial on the street doesn't need a burnout to grip, tracks are different, you're racing on a mix of VHT, asphalt and build up of other racer's rubber - I had summer tires on this before and even just going wot in second not even on the shift, car would break loose - with the ET streets it will hook any time unless I aggressively dump the clutch

BaSohol - I've not tried the Hoosiers as I've been unable to find them locally, and not true on the NT05rs- check out some comparison threads/videos and pretty sure a magazine had done a vs test

And you're right on the BFG and 555r - but they do offer better immediate grip than a typical street tire and they actually have some tread life

Also to note, I would actively avoid driving in any sort of heavy rain with the ET streets..

Right. The track is STICKIER. That is a complete reverse argument. DRs need to be warmed up for their effectiveness. You breaking loose is more the tire being not as grippy, versus the DR being stickier. I have nitto 555s, 340 WHP, 4.10s, aluminum DS, cams and I trap 110 and I do not break loose in 1st from a 4k hold and punch unless it is under 45 or 50 degrees.

Haha ya and the ETs suck in the rain but they also suck for traction On the street without heating them up, well not suck just work like a regular tire

Come race me without a burnout with an equal of my car on a street tire vs the MTs - that is the most bogus statement I've ever heard.

Road race tires when cold are slick/dont grip - drag radials, ESPECIALLY ET streets are not - I don't know you and no offense to you but I had NEVER been able to go WOT in first on any street tire on the street in this car - and i tried 3 of those before the et streets - let alone powershift into second without just redlining
There is a reason I use a drag radial on my weekend car and it is directly influenced by how much fun I can have in a straight line as I don't have to deal with corners

Right. The track is STICKIER. That is a complete reverse argument. DRs need to be warmed up for their effectiveness. You breaking loose is more the tire being not as grippy, versus the DR being stickier. I have nitto 555s, 340 WHP, 4.10s, aluminum DS, cams and I trap 110 and I do not break loose in 1st from a 4k hold and punch unless it is under 45 or 50 degrees.

I stated the ONLY time I break loose with the MTs on street is if I very aggressively dump the clutch - 475whp trapping 123 1/4 mile - actually have to launch softer at the track than on the street even with a burnout

Come race me without a burnout with an equal of my car on a street tire vs the MTs - that is the most bogus statement I've ever heard.

Road race tires when cold are slick/dont grip - drag radials, ESPECIALLY ET streets are not - I don't know you and no offense to you but I had NEVER been able to go WOT in first on any street tire on the street in this car - and i tried 3 of those before the et streets - let alone powershift into second without just redlining
There is a reason I use a drag radial on my weekend car and it is directly influenced by how much fun I can have in a straight line as I don't have to deal with corners

Idk I just spin em if I don't heat them up, maybe because it just picks up dust and crap, if I do a rolling WOT in first it will spin just like my 235 nitto 850 all seasons and I've done a lot of dig races on closed public roads, and I feel like I can launch the same on cold MTs and all seasons. That's why I bring vht track bite with me or rootbeer and heat them up

Idk I just spin em if I don't heat them up, maybe because it just picks up dust and crap, if I do a rolling WOT in first it will spin just like my 235 nitto 850 all seasons and I've done a lot of dig races on closed public roads, and I feel like I can launch the same on cold MTs and all seasons. That's why I bring vht track bite with me or rootbeer and heat them up

Don't know what you're doing different then, but on my current car without changing suspension setups.. I've used KDWIIs (very high rated summer tires) toyo proxy (very high rated road race tires) the factory GT500 eagle supercar tires (work ok for GT500s) and every single one of those.. Cold, all acted the same, hot - only affected the proxies.. Then tried NT05Rs.. oddly first was useable but if I shocked it like a poweshift to second, it'd just leave two black streaks on the road and not accelerate.. The ET streets feel like glue

I hook into second without heating them up cause it spins enough in first, I will agree with you that you do get better traction with a cold DR then a allseason but it's so small of a difference it's not measurable

I hook into second without heating them up cause it spins enough in first, I will agree with you that you do get better traction with a cold DR then a allseason but it's so small of a difference it's not measurable

Could be the difference then - I get to second so quick and shift fairly aggressively that the tires don't heat up enough.. But they've gotta be spinning to heat up

First of all DR s don't need to be heated up to work. If you race with them you do a light burnout to clean them off. That is what Mickey Thompson recommend. They are grippy but if you think you might have to drive in the rain I would advise against it. Just my .02

First of all DR s don't need to be heated up to work. If you race with them you do a light burnout to clean them off. That is what Mickey Thompson recommend. They are grippy but if you think you might have to drive in the rain I would advise against it. Just my .02

You don't need to heat them up for them to grip BUT you absolutely HAVE tpo heat them up for them to get the traction a Drag Radial provides. Cleaning off tires is for street tires, not drag radials. If MT recommended that, they're crazy.

Meaning a Nitto 555 Non R and a MT DR will both allow you low 1.8s. But when you heat a MT DR it will allow for high 1.6s.

You don't need to heat them up for them to grip BUT you absolutely HAVE tpo heat them up for them to get the traction a Drag Radial provides. Cleaning off tires is for street tires, not drag radials. If MT recommended that, they're crazy.

Meaning a Nitto 555 Non R and a MT DR will both allow you low 1.8s. But when you heat a MT DR it will allow for high 1.6s.

I guess we can agree to disagree. I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you guys so you need not be insulting to me. If you think winning championships are easy or cheesy or like flame stickers on an s -10 then let's see what you can accomplish. Anyone can go out and hammer their car and I have too but I race to win and have been doing for a long time. If you think you have to do a long smokey burnout on drs then waste your money but don't insult me

I guess we can agree to disagree. I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you guys so you need not be insulting to me. If you think winning championships are easy or cheesy or like flame stickers on an s -10 then let's see what you can accomplish. Anyone can go out and hammer their car and I have too but I race to win and have been doing for a long time. If you think you have to do a long smokey burnout on drs then waste your money but don't insult me

No one insulted you. We corrected you. The truth hurts. Winning championships has NOTHING to do with your knowledge on tries. A DR HAS to be heated for maximum effectiveness. YOUR 60' PROVES that. What part do you not understand? 1.78 60' is not good for ET streets. ET streets have nailed mid 1.6s for people. I do 1.812 on regular street tires.

My comment about the championships was to suggest that you're racing against regular people, not professional drivers, so not wanting the BEST time is proof of that. Unless you're doing 1.78 every single time and .000 reaction every single time, you're not consistent and are definitely not winning any championships. Your opinion does not change facts. Drag radials need to be heated for their maximum effectiveness. Regardless of what you THINK.

I guess we can agree to disagree. I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you guys so you need not be insulting to me. If you think winning championships are easy or cheesy or like flame stickers on an s -10 then let's see what you can accomplish. Anyone can go out and hammer their car and I have too but I race to win and have been doing for a long time. If you think you have to do a long smokey burnout on drs then waste your money but don't insult me

Nobody started out trying to insult anybody in this thread. But when you jump in and say that you know better because you've won some bracket racing championships, you've got to expect to get some feedback. It's awesome to win anything while driving, but you gotta realize that you threw the first rock.

Wasn't trying to throw the first rock and maybe my comments were taken the wrong way. I wasn't trying to sound high and mighty if that's the way it cam across I apologize. Please read this article this was only the point I was trying to make. That's all. http://www.stangtv.com/tech-stories/...-drag-radials/

Wasn't trying to throw the first rock and maybe my comments were taken the wrong way. I wasn't trying to sound high and mighty if that's the way it cam across I apologize. Please read this article this was only the point I was trying to make. That's all. http://www.stangtv.com/tech-stories/...-drag-radials/

It states that Drag radials need a burn out. It also states that the Mickey's need a burnout, just smaller. A haze is suggestive of the smoke, not a "spin clean". He is suggesting that the tires do not need a smoke cloud, just a "haze".

Cleaning the tires would not generate a haze. So a cleaning is under heating them. 1 or 2 seconds more of spin will be just enough.

Wasn't trying to throw the first rock and maybe my comments were taken the wrong way. I wasn't trying to sound high and mighty if that's the way it cam across I apologize. Please read this article this was only the point I was trying to make. That's all. http://www.stangtv.com/tech-stories/...-drag-radials/

It's all good. Everyone wants to make their point and sometimes it seems to get personal. These discussions are always great, I usually learn a lot of new things or see a different perspective.

I guess there just was a communication break down on my part. When I ran et drags on other cars heating the tires meant to me sitting a nod baking them. I did state in a previous post I roll into the water set the line lock light them up and roll out while spinning left that part out. I just meant you don't have to bake them so to me what I do is cleaning them off which you wouldn't know tha about me because I didn't explain myself. My fault. Guess we were basically talking about the same thing. As far as my 60' that's a reflection of how I drive this car versus how it hooks. No hard feelings wasn't trying to be arrogant. Sorry if I came across that way

I guess there just was a communication break down on my part. When I ran et drags on other cars heating the tires meant to me sitting a nod baking them. I did state in a previous post I roll into the water set the line lock light them up and roll out while spinning left that part out. I just meant you don't have to bake them so to me what I do is cleaning them off which you wouldn't know tha about me because I didn't explain myself. My fault. Guess we were basically talking about the same thing. As far as my 60' that's a reflection of how I drive this car versus how it hooks. No hard feelings wasn't trying to be arrogant. Sorry if I came across that way

No arrogance. This is the internet, I do not take anything personal. Intense discussions always make people research more. If I didn't jump down your ****, you wouldn't have thought to link the article, etc, which has other useful info for others.

As for your 60, that is my point. You can nail significantly better 60' foot times.