Saturday, January 9, 2010

We have problems in this country: illegal immigration, hurricane recovery, alligators attacking people in Florida...Everybody's worried about the problems, but not me. I concentrate on solutions for the problems.

It's a win- win situation.

+ Dig a moat the length of the Mexican border.

+ Send the dirt to New Orleans; raise it above sea level.

+ Put the Florida alligators in the moat along the Mexican border.

How 'bout these: Cows, The Constitution, The Ten Commandments?

C O W S:

Is it just me, or does anyone else find it amazing that during the mad cow epidemic our government could track a single cow, born in Canada almost three years ago, right to the stall where she slept in the state of Washington? And, they tracked her calves to their stalls. But they are unable to locate 11 million illegal aliens wandering around our country. Maybe we should give each of them a cow.

T H E C O N S T I T U T I O N:

They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq ... Why don't we just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, it has worked for over 200 years, and we're not using it anymore.

T H E 1 0 C O M M A N D M E N T S:

The real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments posted in a courthouse:

You can't post 'Thou Shalt Not Steal,' 'Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery,' and 'Thou Shall Not Lie' in a building full of lawyers, judges and politicians. It creates a hostile work environment.

It's not that WE (conservatives) are not using the constitution anymore; THEY (you know who they are) are not using it anymore.

And to ship our constitution off to Iraq seems like a waste to me: the Iraqis will just wipe their butts with it, toss it into the sand where camels will urinate on it. Hmmm, come to think of it, sounds like it would not get much better treatment over there than Democrats are doing to it right now....

Spalding is not the only Constitutional scholar in the country. Many others disagree.

Furthermore, he repeats the canard that you keep claiming that the government is going to take over 1/6th of the US economy. This is simply untrue. Even if we went to a single payer system, doctors nurses, and hospitals, etc. would still be private entities.

But this isn't even single payer AND there may not even be a public option. Only regulation of the insurance industry. So the idea that "Obamacare" will take over 1/6th of the economy is absurd from beginning to end.

The US regulates energy companies, financial institutions, drug companies food production, and just about every other part of the US economy. Does the government control the entire economy? If so, it has since the days of Teddy Roosevelt.

It's a silly claim.

This guy even FURTHER spews the LIE that the bill can't be repealed. That is simply FALSE, FALSE, FALSE. As in not true and a LIE. Even the one subsection that he uses to claim this lie only applies to the way in which Congress will evaluate the recommendations of the cost saving commission, and IT CAN BE changed or repealed with a 60 vote super majority.

So this Spalding guy is spewing untruths all over the place and you are presenting THIS clip as proof that Obama is "shredding" the Constitution?

So Obama, with cheers from Jim, is actually the one selling the canard. He wants us to buy this half duck and believe the other half won't ever show up. Does anyone honestly believe that this bill is not a first step in taking over the health care industry?

Why don't you try a little honesty please Mr. Jim. Of course most people will reject your half duck, but at least you would be being... well... honest.

"But this isn't even single payer AND there may not even be a public option."

Now Jim is going to tell us all how I'm fear mongering here. Well to that I say, I am afraid. God didn't give us fear so that people could use it to control us, sometimes there's good reason to be afraid, and I think this is one of them.

...there may not even be a public option...only regulation of the insurance industry.

aaahhh... raise your hand if you think that the insurance companies are not now regulated.

This guy even FURTHER spews the LIE that the bill can't be repealed. That is simply FALSE, FALSE, FALSE.

Dude, take a pill. Now, go back and watch again and show us where he "spewed" (I like that by the way, kinda sounds like he's the demon possessed little girl on The Exorcist). I'm not saying that he didn't say it, I'm just saying that after watching it twice, I'm not getting where the did that spew thing with that message at all. here it is on You Tube for your convince, I think anyway

And while you're at it, why don't you take issue with the issues Spalding presents rather than just generalize that "some scholars disagree". I thought he was very fair, articulate, and did a good job of presenting his case.

JoeNY~ Welcome! Glad you came by, & thanks for the follow. Oh, & that's JT in your pic., right? He was raised a North Carolina boy, you know?

Jim~ I'm w/ Dan on the 'spewing' thing (i.e., there's no spewing to be seen/heard/found). Spaulding is clear & articulate, & his assertions are absolutely plausible. His assertions are also validated by all of the other news/information sources that I have consulted. In fact, the only 'source' that I've found who disagrees w/ these concerns is you, Jim dear. Oh...you & that Gibbs fella.

Hi all~I apologize, I introduced (in my comment to Fredd) a topic of conversation which actually belongs to another comment thread. If you'd like to know what we're talking about, feel free to take a peek .

Spewing is an absolutely appropriate word. The claim is untrue, it is demonstrably untrue, and Spalding either knows it's untrue and therefore he's lying, or he has never read it and is lying when he claims to know what it says. Either way he is a liar.

Validated by other news sources you've consulted? You mean video clips of Spalding and Krauthammer where they make assertions but present no facts? Eh!

"why don't you take issue with the issues Spalding presents rather than just generalize that "some scholars disagree"." I believe that's exactly what I did.

"Reminds me of Shakespeare: "Methinks he doth protest too much," if you get my drift..."

With all due respect Sussanah, this is your SOP. If I protest at all, I doth protest too much. I don't buy it.

Jim is a jewel for providing such wonderful and blatant examples of the typical fallacious arguments forwarded by leftist. Check this out:

StrawmanThis is the fallacy of refuting a caricatured or extreme version of somebody's argument, rather than the actual argument they've made. Often this fallacy involves putting words into somebody's mouth by saying they've made arguments they haven't actually made, in which case the straw man argument is a veiled version of argumentum ad logicam.

"If I protest at all, I doth protest too much."If you say so. But you know Jim, it is my blog. I make no secret of my opinions. They're passionate, yes, but also carefully reasoned & reasonably articulate.

I call it as I see it. Take it or leave it.

And yes, Jim, imo you do protest just a wee bit too much on this one. Makes your arguments feel a little weak, actually.

That is simply FALSE, FALSE, FALSE. The claim is untrue, it is demonstrably untrue, and you either know it's untrue and therefore you're lying, or you haven't ever watched it and are lying when you claim to know what he said. Either way you are a liar.

You can claim it's there if you'd like, the video is available for any to watch and make their own judgments, and I hope that many do for Spalding is a well spoken scholar who isn't making any of the claims that you falsely accused him of, along with being a liar, but is instead well spoken, level headed, and informative.

"The notion, the audacity of putting something in to prevent this from every being changed, repealed, amended, is a violation of the Constitution but is also just insulting to the way that a Constitutional rule of law system operates."

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