While that NYT headline claims certainty the text does not. It obediently repeats the Turkish government claim but adds:

Syrian Arab rebel forces fighting with the Turks said they had not received official notification that the Syrian government had launched the strike. One fighter said he had heard that the strike was from the Syrian government but heard later that it had been from the Islamic State. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a network based in Britain that monitors news from Syria, also said that the strike had been by the Islamic State.

An updated version of that report adds:

Some on the ground raised questions about whether the strike was undertaken by Syrian government forces. A network of activists who monitor the skies over Syria said Thursday that its watchers had spotted a Syrian aircraft taking off after 2 a.m. and also a Russian aircraft about the same time as the strike on Turkish forces occurred. It is impossible to know where the planes that were sighted went; they could easily have had another destination, the network said.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a network based in Britain that monitors news from Syria, said the strike was by the Islamic State. But the Islamic State, also known as ISIS, is not known to have combat aircraft.

--- Excursus: The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) is a sophisticated disinformation outlet of the British foreign intelligence service MI-6. SOHR is on one side very manipulating, i.e. SOHR counts only foreigners, deserters of the Syrian army, ISIS and al-Qaeda fighters on the anti-government side as "rebels killed". Ten-thousands of Syrian civilians who took up arms to become well paid "Syrian rebel" fighters are counted as "civilians" when besieged, killed or wounded. On the other side SOHR provides the most complete and detailed record of the war. It helps its reputation and is the reason why it is a favorite quoted source for "western" news "reporting". ---

The answer to the reader's question is that both Hurriyet and Al Masdar, are right and the NYT writers are confused by the fog of war and too lazy to do basic research. The devil is, as always, in the details.

On November 23 a Turkish armored military vehicle was attacked near the village Wiqah north of Al-Bab in northern Syria. Some sources claimed a guided missile strike. ISIS related Twitter accounts claimed a suicide attack.

The SOHR account of the Turkish vehicle hit, cited by the NYT, obviously refers to this November 23 attack.

The air-attack on the Turkish soldiers north of Al-Bab happened on November 24 at 3:30am local time according to the Turkish army. It was confirmedto journalists by very senior people in Damascus. The Al Masdar News account though, seemingly denying such a strike, includes a very specific non-denial-denial quote:

A high-ranking official from the Syrian Arab Air Force (SAAYF) told Al-Masdar on Thursday night that their fighter jets did not bomb the Turkish Army in east Aleppo.

"No Syrian or Russian aircraft bombed the Turkish Army near Al-Bab on November 23rd - all reports claiming otherwise are lies," the official confirmed to Al-Masdar on Thursday.

The airstrike did not on occur on the 23rd, as "denied" by SAAYF, but on the 24th. The NYT report mixes up two attacks as one, while basic research shows evidence of two very different attacks. The Al Masdar folks do not understand the specificity of the quotes their sources give.

Mystery solved.

Hurriyet and others have connected the Syrian air-attack to the Turkish attack on a Russian jet exactly one year before. I doubt that this coincident is intended. Al-Bab, held by ISIS and coveted by nearby Turkish, Kurdish and Syrian government forces, is an important target that will be fought over between the various sides for some time to come. The hit was not some symbolic, historic revenge act, nor was it to roast Turkey for Thanksgiving, but a signal to Turkey that Al-Bab is and will stay off limits for its forces.

News accounts of war, be those of casualties, of specific incidents or assume motivations, are always suspect. They are often written with disinformation in mind. Historic accounts are mostly written by the winners of a specific conflict and heavily "colored" from that perspective. Forensic or video proof can be easily forged and should always be taken with many pinches of salt. Only diligent research on all sides of a conflict can uncover what really happened. Only when "reports" from opposite sides agree on numbers or specific incidents on can assume to be near the truth.

As the above news dissecting shows it is quite possible to beat the (lazy) New York Times reporting in correctness and thereby quality.

I wholeheartedly recommend to use at least parts of the list that new anonymous censorship entity provides as your new or additional "Favorite Bookmarks" list. It includes illustrious financial anti-fraud sites like Yves Smith's Naked Capitalism, Wikileaks, well informed libertarian sites like Ron Paul and AntiWar.com and leftish old timers like Counterpunch. Of general (non-mainstream) news sites Consortiumnews, run by Robert Parry who revealed the Iran-contra crimes, is included as well as Truthdig and Truth-out.org. Some easy to remove nazi sites have been added to that list to smear the serious ones. A rather stupid "trick" of "guilt by association" for which only the very dumb fall.

Where were they back in 2002/2003 when NYT and WaPo and the networks were kowtowing to the Bush administration, w/o mentioning the embedded journos who were the spinmasters of the military and Viceroy Bremmer?

How come they don't talk about WaPo being a rapporteur at the annual Bilderberg meeting?

The fact that the attack came on the first anniversary of the Russian jet crisis might not be a coincidence, as Syria’s army might be attempting to sow divisions between Russia and Turkey.
If Turkey heightens the friction with Syria due to the attack, it may be forced to open a new front in the region, in addition to its existing ones against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) and Syrian Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD). And in such a case, it would face Russia as a belligerent state.

Such friction with Syria and Russia may dim the effect, in the long run, of Turkey’s aerial support for the Euphrates Shield operation.

So we are supposed to believe that not only the anniversary of the shoot-down is a coincidence, but also that November 24 was Thanksgiving in the US, where they sometimes pardon a Turkey but most often stuff and roast some? Hmm.... ;oP

Congrats for making the list, b!

Their "allies" blogroll is telling as well, sporting such impressive institutions as stopfake, Brown Noses and Interpreter Rag... lol

@6 virgile, 'And in such a case, it would face Russia as a belligerent state. Such friction with Syria and Russia may dim the effect, in the long run, of Turkey’s aerial support for the Euphrates Shield operation.'

Is Hurriyet noting the end of the Turkish Air Force's adventures in Syria?

The Guardian
Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq
The west looks on as corruption and bigotry rule in the 'new Ukraine'
Video raises concerns over Ukraine's treatment of Russian prisoners

New York Times
Why Ukraine Is Losing the War on Corruption
Ukraine’s Security Services and Rebels Are Said to Be Equals in Torture
Getting Ukraine Wrong
Don't Arm Ukraine

I'm sure you will agree, only Russian propagandists would put out such ludicrous articles. These sites are not to be trusted."

Russian propaganda. Jeez...
I remember being bombarded with news items during the run up to our Brexit vote that a vote to leave the EU effectively made you a Putin sympathiser and ergo some kind of Kremlin troll. So too during the US election, and now watch the same accusations surface during the French election. Astonishing ignorance of what's really happening, so blame the Russian boogeyman.

Would you allow to go to waste the efforts made from the mid to late 1940's until today to generate fear and loathing of Moscow's rulers? At least four generations suckled that fear with their mother's milk. A mighty waste if it were not used and kept limber for tomorrow's pointed purpose. Just how hard do you think it is to create out of thin air, aversion so profound as to be indelible on a population's psyche.

That's a funny list, just like the EU setting up their own propaganda outlet to counter "anti-EU" propaganda.
As if the bulk of mainstream media weren't pure propaganda for the US, and to a lesser extent for the uber-capitalist European Union.
As implied by Yul @3, at least, Moon of Alabama and many of these listed sites didn't cause 1 million Iraqi deaths last decade - heck, they or their writers were openly against that war and were busy debunking the ridiculous WaPo/NYT claims of Saddam ready to nuke the world...

@19 because deplorables are too lazy to learn second languages, the rest of the world has, in exasperation, found it easier to use English. French is a beautiful language, once the so-called language of diplomacy. Once real diplomacy died, we chose the language of Wall Street, or Fleet Street as the case may be.

Be aware that Russia is trying to supplant actual journalism (that has editors and fact checkers who impose accountability for mistakes), with fake-"media" online propaganda that Russia influences or controls.

Spread the word: Russia is attempting to manipulate the American people through online propaganda.

Obtain news from actual reporters, who report to an editor and are professionally accountable for mistakes. We suggest NPR, the BBC, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, Buzzfeed, VICE, etc, and especially your local papers and local TV news channels. Support them by subscribing, if you can!

...

We call on Congressional leadership, and the Obama administration, to:

Immediately begin investigations to determine whether any U.S. government action or inaction has allowed Russia to manipulate the US domestic political process, and interfere in the 2016 election, through online propaganda.

Immediately begin investigations to determine whether, by action or inaction, the American public has been deprived of related information that they need to vote in an informed manner.

One source (WaPo) pushes the Russian conspiracy to use fake news to "attack our democracy" via the election process BUT another source rips into the WaPo sources. So much for any WaPo credibility they might have had.

31.
"Obtain news from actual reporters, who report to an editor and are professionally accountable for mistakes. We suggest NPR, the BBC, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, Buzzfeed, VICE, etc, and especially your local papers and local TV news channels. Support them by subscribing, if you can!"

Some non english open threads wld be fun and definitely 'new'
on the web!!
Why not give it a try? After all b does not discuss the
us in priority but the whole planet. It might bring ppl who're
afraid to write bad english but have important news on other
corners of the world.

Another way to avoid the brain-destroying fungus Cordyceps! embedded into the skulls of unwary hosts through the media is to understand that the crimes charged to the Righteous are the self-same crimes actually committed or contemplated by their accusers.

I was poking around the site looking for leads since who ever posted said some of them prefer to be anonymous. Reading down the FAQ - the last entry is as follows:

The YYYcampaignYYY is in part a direct response to the anti-Semitic, alt-right triple-parentheses (((echoes))) campaign, which, like it has done in the past, Russian propaganda uses and helped amplify. Unlike parentheses, YYYs show up in search queries and can be used to track crowdsourced identification of Russian propaganda over time. The YYY does not stand for anything specifically, but we are fans of the band The Yeah Yeah Yeahs, who have nothing to do with Russian propaganda.

Click the 'Yeah Yeah Yeahs' link. Seems almost like an admission that the whole thing is a joke - What do you make of that?

Also, can anyone tell me if there is such a thing as 'anti-Semitic alt-right triple-parantheses'?

I'm not sure how much of a 'smear' it is for MoA to be included in a list of truth-seeking sources. I'd call it an unintended compliment/consequence.

What the World's Second ex-SuperPower (AmeriKKKa) laughably describes as The International Community is in fact merely a collection of once-powerful Christian Colonial Countries whose bribed leaders have exchanged National Sovereignty, Independence and Democracy (Govt by the people, for the people) for MONEY to become vassals of AmeriKKKan influence.

Unfortunately, part of this deal with The Great Satan (AmeriKKKa) is that the West's bribed leaders have agreed that they'll ignore the Will of the People and substitute Lecturing for Listening.

Fortunately, The People are waking up to the fact that their leaders don't listen and are voting with their feet. A symptom of this emerging New Reality is that a significant proportion of the West's studiously ignored citizens, when asked to name an admirable leader, reply Vladimir Putin. It's getting to the stage, in Oz, where deaf Oz politicians who criticise Putin are regarded as jealous and/or ignorant and tone-deaf.

The Syrian army and the Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG) launched a joint military operation against the ISIS terrorist group east of Aleppo city on November 24. Their forces reportedly liberated at least 2 villages in the area: Sheikh Kife and Nirbeh. Pro-government sources also argue that they liberated Juba and Halisah, but they had alredy been in the hands of YPG. Clashes between pro-government force and ISIS were also reported near Tal Shair.

The joint advance of Syrian government and YPG forces took place following the recent escalations between them and Turkish-led forces across Syria. On November 23, in northern Latakia, Turkish artillery units delivered strikes against the Syrian army, reportedly killing up to 80 soldiers. On November 24, the Syrian Air Force allegedly hit Turkish army units deployed in the countryside of al-Bab, killing at least 3 soldiers. Ankara threatened to retaliate to the attack, according to Prime Minister Binali Yildirim. Intense fighting between Turkey-led forces and Kurdish YPG units has been ongoing west of Arimah since November 22.

If the army-YPG cooperation east of Aleppo is confirmed to be a full-scale advance, it will mean that the Syrian government and its Kurdish allies have decided to build a buffer zone west of al-Bab to prevent the Turkish military from expanding its presence into central Syria. In this case, a major escalation against Syrian army and Kurdish YPG forces the only way to seize al-Bab for Turkey.

So in the upcoming war between Syria and Turkey, which side are the Russians on? Could be a good opportunity to demonstrate the effectiveness of their S-400 defense system. As well as their SU-25s and helicopters as anti-armor defense.

The US has backed off, claiming that the Turkish adventure has nothing to do with their "anti-terrorist" coalition's efforts to unseat Assad, I mean defeat al-CIAduh/ISIS, in Syria. Sounds like an invitation to the Russians to kick Erdogan's ass for them.

Or can the Russians just cite all of the above and just talk Erdogan out of it?

Among the websites listed by PropOrNot as “allies” are a number of groups funded by the U.S. government or NATO. They include InterpreterMag [1], an anti-Russian media monitoring blog funded through Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, an arm of the U.S. government, which is edited by the hardline neoconservative Michael Weiss. Polygraph Fact Check [2], another project of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty aimed at Russian misinformation, is listed as an “ally.” So is Bellingcat, the crowdsourced military analysis blog run by Elliot Higgins through the Atlantic Council [3], which receives funding from the U.S. State Department, various Gulf monarchies and the weapons industry. (Bellingcat is directly funded by Google, according to Higgins. [4])

As I look at the list I think there are patterns to who got listed and which outlets were recommended. But you know, this is not about the black listed sites as Russian propaganda conduits. Look at the list. The big picture is that the blacklisted sites offer alternative points of view to the establishment press and media which protect corporate interests, act as government stenographers, etc. Even ones that people think of as right wing offer alternative views and information from the sitting powers in the media.

It is no wonder as various pundits mentioned, there is no knowledge about who funds the group and their identities. That information would quickly expose them.

The big picture aim is not to counter Russian propaganda but to squash basic dissent and it looks like to me from that point of view, propornot has done one excellent job of identifying highly effective dissenting websites. Very good joke about "hey thanks for all the good bookmarks" in sense reveals the blacklisted websites as quality sources of information.

Ok it was a joke :) a way to tease you by taking a common place on American blinders. I suspect that people here are more open. Greetings to the German friend :)) and thank you for the attention you have given me :))

I had a look at all 204 sites. Ok a very quick look ;) ... and pruned them back to what turned out to be fifty known to be of interest, or that looked interesting.

Thanks to propornot.com for the initial winnowing. They could do a little better though, experts that they are, I had to toss what, 154 of 204? I suppose most people would have to do at least the same.

Hilarious, the next step is for the WP to say they have been fooled by Russian spies who sold them the story and actually stand behind the anonymous porn-news-makers.https://twitter.com/ggreenwald?lang=fr

The way the WP article describes the methods sounds like these are the very tricks used in the coloured revolutions so they have a certain facility to describe it in detail. Not a word of some famous hoaxes in which the MSM failed, and how come the New Yorker is not in the list!! A very dangerous magazine which has uncovered nasty things about Iraq and Syria more than once.

I wonder what will FB/Twitter do with the Arab media, controlled at 90 % by the Saudis, and where fake news are just daily bread.

Anyway, all these intrusive buttons on each single website are so intrusive, eating part of my screen, obliging webmasters to adapt to what stays a commercial technology, that it is high time to get read of these and evolve to a better internet.

Wow. Let's regulate the way people send news on Facebook and then we'll regulate the way people express themselves on Twitter, and then we'll regulate how people Snapchat (some filters are really a threat to democracy), and then we'll regulate the kind of photographs that people post in Instagram.

In general, it is better to regulate the way people think, express and behave so that they do not represent a corrosion of democracy. Welcome to the future neoliberal Echo Chamber, where censorship and control are used to protect democracy and intellectual debate or the challenge of different ideas are unknown concepts.

Indeed, what happened here is the essence of fake news. The Post story served the agendas of many factions: those who want to believe Putin stole the election from Hillary Clinton; those who want to believe that the internet and social media are a grave menace that needs to be controlled, in contrast to the objective truth which reliable old media outlets once issued; those who want a resurrection of the Cold War. So those who saw tweets and Facebook posts promoting this Post story instantly clicked and shared and promoted the story without an iota of critical thought or examination of whether the claims were true, because they wanted the claims to be true. That behavior included countless journalists.

So the story spread in a flash, like wildfire. Tens of thousands of people, perhaps hundreds of thousands or even millions, consumed it, believing that it was true because of how many journalists and experts told them it was. Virtually none of the people who told them this spent a minute of time or ounce of energy determining if it was true. It pleased them to believe it was, knowing it advanced their interests, and so they endorsed it. That is the very definition of how fake news functions, and it is the ultimate irony that this Post story ended up illustrating and spreading far more fake news than it exposed.

When you look at the media they recommend, and at the smileys in their tweets (see Greenwald's article) you think immediately to ... the Libyan/Syrian PR rebels. NPR? VICE? these are the guys they have been most in contact with. It also comes right on time with the current demonization of Assange and Wikileaks in the US as pro-Trump

Today, this delusional guy was explaining a sceptic journalist that "there might be a few islamists in Aleppo East but just a few", that the people who live there did not want to leave because there are their houses and they have nowhere else to go, and that the people who had tried to take the corridors to leave had been attacked at the checkpoints by the Syrian army.http://www.deutschlandfunk.de/syrien-konflikt-europa-muss-eine-eigene-sicherheitspolitik.694.de.html?dram:article_id=372399
When asked if it was still realistic now than Trump was saying he could talk with Putin, he said that it was a bit more complicate now with Brexit and Trump but that certainly if was the right time for Europe to get united and have a common security.
Seems that the fact 4 EU countries strictly refuse the entrance of Syrian refugees does not trouble him.

Hilarious!!! When Junker is sober he can say interesting things!https://www.rt.com/news/368310-eu-juncker-odious-regimes/
“We, the European Union, have links with regimes that are odious. And nobody asks us about it. Everybody’s worried about Turkey, but nobody’s talking about Saudi Arabia,” he said.

"Syrian government forces have retaken the largest rebel-controlled district in eastern Aleppo, state media report.
The capture of Masaken Hanano, in north-east Aleppo, could give Syria's army line-of-fire control over other opposition-held areas, activists say.
The government resumed its offensive to retake eastern Aleppo on 15 November. Some 275,000 people are under siege."

Led by the Republican Guard, the Syrian Arab Army managed to liberate the small village of Umm Ahmad Al-Talatin after overrunning the Islamic State's main defensive line this afternoon.

In addition to liberating the village of Umm Ahmad Al-Talatin, the Syrian Arab Army has captured a number of small hilltops en route to the strategic radar base located directly west of Al-Bab.

The Syrian Armed Forces were able to make these rapid gains today, thanks in large-part to the Kurdish-led "Syrian Democratic Forces" (SDF), who have applied pressure on the Islamic State's positions in the north.

Ahmed Hani, an activist from the Kurdish self-defense forces, writes: “URGENT: Assad’s military planes have attacked a Turkish military camp in the village of Azraq. Casualties have been reported. A Turkish tank is on fire.” He added: “There was an attack yesterday as well. Today, Russian and Assad’s planes also bombed a military base of FSA groups in Azraq.”

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani says consultations between Iran and Turkey will contribute to the promotion of peace and stability in the Middle East.

He said safeguarding territorial integrity and maintaining national unity in Iraq and Syria, forming the governments in these two countries based on the principles of democracy, preventing the killing of people and destroying infrastructure as well as helping refugees return to their homelands are among measures which need to be conducted to solve regional crises.

The Popular Mobilization Units (PMU), also known as Hashd al-Shaabi forces, in Iraq say the US-led coalition fired a missile at their command tent at the recently liberated Tal Afar Airport after Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi met with commanders there.

In a statement released on Friday, the PMU said that the attack took place on Thursday and left several people injured.

[T]he missile landed one meter and a half from the PMU commanders’ tent while a drone belonging to the US-led coalition was up in the sky.

The PMU called on the US-led alliance to provide an explanation for the incident, noting that it will announce the findings of the probe after its conclusion.

****** McCarthyism is the practice of making accusations of subversion or treason without proper regard for evidence. It also means “the practice of making unfair allegations or using unfair investigative techniques, especially in order to restrict dissent or political criticism.” ********

I had noticed trolls on some websites already responding to people's comments by putting their screen name with YYY around it. PropOrNot says that by putting YYY around someones name, they will be able to keep track of people that way over time. Example: YYYPropOrNotYYY.

“Moving forward,” said Google in a statement to Reuters, “we will restrict ad serving on pages that misrepresent, misstate, or conceal information about the publisher, the publisher’s content, or the primary purpose of the web property.”

So then I went to the propornot.com and they have no advertisements so won't be affected by the Google position

Another quote from the article....the last sentence says it all
"
Traditionally, the misinformation business was reserved for the higher end of the news production cycle: a William Randolph Hearst, a Rupert Murdoch, or a director of propaganda operations in a government (totalitarian or otherwise) ever enthusiastic about spinning the story. The difference now is that the arm of dissimulation has been extended – to the ordinary citizen who has a huge array of sharing functions and social media platforms to spread a word.

Information in this era, being treated as some magic gold dust, is being packaged and fed to the public via various mediums. The only thing interesting about this aspect is the democratisation of production and dissemination. We are all potential directors of the fake news industry.
"

We are all potential directors of the fake news industry.......We are all potential directors of the real news industry

Voltaire gave us this quote: “History is the lie commonly agreed upon.” I think we are in a state where that common agreement has broken down and believe that is a good thing for society in general. My sincere hope is that we focus on the fact of the lie part of history that is filled with human hubris about our place in the Cosmos we know so little about but create and honor Gods in our likeness.

Brexit, The Don, with more likely to come in Italy in France. Haha, the zionist MSM (((publishing house))) Hollywood formula fakery doesn't work anymore, huh...? ...get the popcorn, democracy is alive and kicking...the usual psychological switches and levers are not garnering the trusted popular response anymore. Best to pour shit on the digital revolution and accuse it of the same crime it has been guilty of for the ages.

@75 psychohistorian
Deceptive words by Google. Wasnt their corporate catchphrase 'dont be evil'. They need to stay out of politics and just search my shit. I sincerely hope that Google is not the force that brings AI to the point of singularity or we're screwed. Such a planetary changing swing between good or evil should not fall to those privateers who jump into bed with the guvna and do it's bidding on the sly... google knows what you had for breakfast... Slutty

We are a collective of bloggers and dedicated sites and we would be very pleased to appear on your list. We feel our inclusion is timely as we all engage in Russian propaganda. Thank you in advance for considering our request. Please feel free to contact us should you require any further information about any of our pro-Russia sites.

A question for techies: on an phone running Android 3, there was the option to have websites appearing with no pictures (saves a limited prepaid). Is it possible on the commonly used browsers? I just hate twitter pages to take so long because of all the fancy frames and pics everywhere. I do know adblock and adblock ultimate of course that kill a few buttons on most websites, but if there is anything that work fine for people who like text more than pics, please tell me.

One of the most puzzling sites included on Jeff Bezos' list is the uss liberty veterans association. This is a site run by the veterans of the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty ... it forces one to conclude that it's criticism of the USG and its past actions that 'merits' inclusion on the list. That criticism of the USG is being billed - unapologetically - as 'reliably echoing Russian propaganda'.

Doesn't Jeff realize how much that weakens whatever argument he thought that he had for his list to begin with? I guess he's just pitching his new demographic ... the people predisposed to 2 minute hates, the ones who don't need a reason.

Well, it's his blog, I guess. And I guess his mouthpiece was inexpensive to him. He only paid $250 million for it: 0.25 billion. Chump change in San Francisco. Hell, he got more than $600 million from the CIA in a single storage contract. I guess this and posts like this are payback for that and, undoubtedly, other contracts with the AC/DC three-letter agencies.

OT but apparently Syria has a government now. This has replaced to regime at least according to the BBC.
Could it have something to do with the SAA's recent success....or maybe Trump?

"Syrian government forces have retaken a second rebel-held district in eastern Aleppo, military sources say.
They say the army and its allies had "fully recaptured" Jabal Badro.
Hours earlier, rebel sources confirmed that neighbouring Hanano district had fallen and was now under government control."

The militants fired at the Israeli soldiers, who were on the Israeli-controlled territory, from a vehicle driving along the Syrian side of the Golan

Except this time, instead of aiding their jihadi allies by targeting Syrian government forces, Israeli warplanes struck their armored vehicle instead. So what happened? Simple miscommunication? Confusion in the fog of war? Wrongful procedure of things?

I was sure a name like that could not have been imagined by Americans. Sounds too much like "pro-porno". Any native PR guys would have noticed.
Good to see again the solidarity between Ukrainian nazis and Syrian "rebels".

Perhaps the most salient characteristic of their proscription list is its inaccuracy.

Pro-Porno-t is an independent team of concerned American citizens with a wide range of backgrounds and expertise, including professional experience in computer science, statistics, public policy, and national security affairs. We are currently volunteering time and skills to identify propaganda - particularly Russian propaganda - targeting a U.S. audience. We collect public-record information connecting propaganda outlets to each other and their coordinators abroad, analyze what we find, act as a central repository and point of reference for related information, and organize efforts to oppose it.

Taking time from their day jobs - targeting wedding-parties, funerals, farmers and villagers of all sorts, and the 16 year-old American son of an American father who said things the USG didn't like. 'Collateral damage' is inconsequential to them, even when it dwarfs the population of their intended targets. In fact, the 'intention' is as muddy with pro-porno-t as it has been all along, "For bureaucratic reasons we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction, because it was the one reason everyone could agree on" in the words of Paul Wolfowitz. The real action is DDD&D and feeding the MIC. 'Everyone' has agreed on 'Russian propaganda' in the 'intelligence' community at this point, obviously.

Pro-porno-t is another one of their 'clever' inside jokes, their double entendre, veiling a softcore glimpse at their hardcore profession.

The last two paragraphs from the piece:
"
Western governments are running out of excuses. Since the Clinton regime, the accumulation of war crimes committed by Western governments exceed those of Nazi Germany. Millions of Muslims have been slaughtered, dislocated, and dispossessed in seven countries. Not a single Western war criminal has been held accountable.

The despicable Washington Post is a prime apologist for these war criminals. The entire Western print and TV media is so heavily implicated in the worst war crimes in human history that, if justice ever happens, the presstitutes will stand in the dock with the Clintons, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, Obama and their neocon operatives or handlers as the case may be.
"

And then there are some on the ‘Russian propaganda’ list that I wish would publish me but can’t or don’t, especially stormcloudsgathering and moonofalabama — both terrific sites, which are written and produced by the same inpidual who owns it (and both of which are vastly more truthful than is the Washington Post, though moonofalabama seems to be blind to the falsenesses of Karl Marx and too selective in the truths that are being reported, but some good reporters are communists blind to the falsenesses of Karl Marx, just as some good reporters are libertarians blind to the falsenesses of Adam Smith — ideology is fundamentally different from journalism).

... b is a blind Marxist? ... I always thought he was a closet libertarian. But it makes no difference ... he's trying to nail things as what they are, and he's often very successful. And he's a real Mensch, you can tell, and that counts for more than this or that label, pigeonhole, Procrustean bed ... I'll bet b would let Zuesse comment here. Hell, he lets me comment here, why not Eric Zuesse? Then Zuesse can say he's been published on Moonofalabama.org. As can we all. Thanks b.

Actually, I think even the "major U.S. ‘News’ media" were embarrassed at the sight of Bezos, learing, with his raincoat open, flashing us all. They identified with him so strongly that they went straight to the memory hole with his exhibition. It's erased already. Ask any of them about the Pro-Porno-t(eam) and it'll be, what? who?

American Jews now have a rare opportunity. They can realize where their real interests lie and act accordingly. And, as they always have, those interests lie in upholding the universal principles of civil and humanitarian rights. To not do so is to affirm their present alliance with a nation self-destructing on tribalism and racism.

The truth is that Zionism has turned out to be a tragic and potentially fatal mistake. Those who led the Jewish community to support Zionism tied the fate of the U.S. Jews to an apartheid political ideology that has isolated them from much that is decent and progressive in the world.

As problematic as it is, the ascendency of Donald Trump gives the American Jews a second chance to make the right choice, to join with their natural allies and fight for the equal rights of all groups. U.S. Jews should think long and hard about this, for it may well be that their second chance will also be their last chance.

... if that isn't 'reliably echoing Russian propaganda' ... by a 'self-hating Jew' ... then I don't know what is!

I can recommend Lawrence Davidson's tothepointanalyses.com site. I have his rss feed bookmarked. Short and sweet one-pagers that cut to the quick on the issue at hand. The Pro-Porno-t(eam) is missing an all-star on this one. (I had to type in two words - a new addition - to get to LD's site, might be my no-script, and/or ad-block software ;)

I'm no expert on his site, but I think the key word there is 'occasionally' ... and definitely not of the system. Very faulty, un-'reliable echo of Russian propaganda' ... his being 'Colonel' might have something to do with that. The criticism is not of the ends but of the means of their realization. Definitely softcore to the Pro-Porno-t(eam).

But they listed so many whacko, UFO, alien and other sites ... one wonders how the little gears of their genius turn.