I think a lot of you guys will dig them. I have listened to whole album and it is fantastic.

Originally Posted by bmack86

And it's been long established that Chris hates fun.

Originally Posted by Hatinisbad

I took my niece this year and it was her first Coachella. It was so fun to see it through her eyes. She thought it felt like a magical scene from Shreck. The one where all the fairy tale creatures meet for the first time in Shreck's swamp.

Re: Damaged: Hardcore, Post-Hardcore, Emo & Noise Rock

I had a friend who used to poll every punk kid we met with the following question:
Black Flag, Minor Threat or Bad Brains? Which band was the best early hardcore band (for this, he'd say ignore everything after Damaged by Black Flag and only look at the short and hard Bad Brains stuff).

Re: Damaged: Hardcore, Post-Hardcore, Emo & Noise Rock

I think it's Black Flag. Bad Brains and Minor Threat were better musically, but Black Flag's old recordings sound so raw and aggressive and force you to feel every note. "Depression" or "Room 13" with Keith or Henry singing is as hardcore as it'll ever be, IMO.

Re: Damaged: Hardcore, Post-Hardcore, Emo & Noise Rock

for me, minor threat set the tone from very early on. i played in a dingy little punk band that essentially started doing gigs and was only able to fill up a set by playing 3 covers of them.

these days though i find myself appreciating black flag in a way that i never could back then. intriguing question but i've guess i've never been a fan of making definitive calls like that. its all too good!

Re: Damaged: Hardcore, Post-Hardcore, Emo & Noise Rock

Originally Posted by bmack86

I had a friend who used to poll every punk kid we met with the following question:
Black Flag, Minor Threat or Bad Brains? Which band was the best early hardcore band (for this, he'd say ignore everything after Damaged by Black Flag and only look at the short and hard Bad Brains stuff).

So?

Minor Threat for me. Everything Ian Mackaye has ever had to say in his music always really struck a chord with me.

Re: Damaged: Hardcore, Post-Hardcore, Emo & Noise Rock

I always chose Minor Threat, he always chose Black Flag. I love all three, but Minor Threat have the great benefit of not having released a single bad song. Neither Black Flag nor Bad Brains get to claim that. Also, poor Black Flag got so blunted by the Unicorn debacle.

Re: Damaged: Hardcore, Post-Hardcore, Emo & Noise Rock

Someone want to provide me with good list of your favorite 90s/early 2000s hardcore albums/singles comps/eps? I'm intimately versed in 80s, but 90s onward is mostly a dark void. I know the post-hardcore stuff very well and skate punk and some crust and all that.

Re: Damaged: Hardcore, Post-Hardcore, Emo & Noise Rock

Originally Posted by bmack86

I always chose Minor Threat, he always chose Black Flag. I love all three, but Minor Threat have the great benefit of not having released a single bad song. Neither Black Flag nor Bad Brains get to claim that. Also, poor Black Flag got so blunted by the Unicorn debacle.

"Asshole Dub" is pretty weak. Not sure what they released it on besides that Dischord Anniversary comp, though.

Re: Damaged: Hardcore, Post-Hardcore, Emo & Noise Rock

Originally Posted by dorkfish

"Asshole Dub" is pretty weak. Not sure what they released it on besides that Dischord Anniversary comp, though.

They didn't release it anywhere else. I think I read in the booklet that it was the only thing they tried to record that they couldn't figure out, so they chose not to put it out. As a result, it was the only thing they had for the box set other than the demo tape that they wound up pressing on its own anyway.

Re: Damaged: Hardcore, Post-Hardcore, Emo & Noise Rock

Originally Posted by bmack86

They didn't release it anywhere else. I think I read in the booklet that it was the only thing they tried to record that they couldn't figure out, so they chose not to put it out. As a result, it was the only thing they had for the box set other than the demo tape that they wound up pressing on its own anyway.

I also wondered if they were just messing around or poking fun at Bad Brains with it.

Re: Damaged: Hardcore, Post-Hardcore, Emo & Noise Rock

Thanks for checking them out! And I definitely hear the similiarities. I know Daughters, Orchid and WPP are all big influences on the band as well.

Funny enough I once told my buddy, their guitarist, some of their stuff remind of Refused and he got legitimately upset. He fucking hates Refused.

Originally Posted by bmack86

And it's been long established that Chris hates fun.

Originally Posted by Hatinisbad

I took my niece this year and it was her first Coachella. It was so fun to see it through her eyes. She thought it felt like a magical scene from Shreck. The one where all the fairy tale creatures meet for the first time in Shreck's swamp.

Re: Damaged: Hardcore, Post-Hardcore, Emo & Noise Rock

The 90's had so many breakoff scenes with so many good bands that it's tough to paint a picture of the decade. The Epitaph scene definitely blew up the biggest and got the most national recognition after the Offspring sold a million records and the critics shit their pants for Rancid's ...And Out Come The Wolves. There was a huge militant straight edge scene that had smatterings of veganism and krishna throughout - Earth Crisis and 108 are definitely my favorites from that group. SoCal skate punk like the Vandals, Ignite, 98 Mute, and Pennywise was always huge where I grew up. Then you had smaller scenes for powerviolence, grind and hardcore really brewing with bands like Infest forming at the end of the 80's.

Re: Damaged: Hardcore, Post-Hardcore, Emo & Noise Rock

Hey Drinkey - remember that a lot of people who've never heard this kinda music will read this thread. You just blew our only chance to remove 18 Visions and that entire shitty ass OC fashioncore scene from history. I would gladly trade the one band I liked (Bleeding Through's Portrait of a Goddess is basically a death/black metal album made for moshing instead of smoking weed and being glum) to wipe that shit off the planet.

Those were the same kids who were wearing JNCO pants, Krishna beads and Xing up in the 90's. OC was loaded with rich kids that could afford to change scenes at the drop of a hat.