Andrea Bargnani for 2014 1st rounder?

As much as I would like to see Charlie and Rod gone, I would rather be patient than take on more salary for a marginal player. Those guys will be gone soon, and we may be able to trade expiring contracts for something of actual value.

Plus, Toronto ain't taking Chaz back. Their organization is wise to that guy.

We got future players on our team who are watching what management does this off season. Keeping Stuckey and CV another year and our future stars could sign extensions elsewhere. Sign a has been...or never was coach and we'll be posting below .500 blues for five more years.

I read on the internets that Toronto will consider using the amnesty if they can't trade Bargnani.

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Did someone (other than Colangelo) from the Raps organization say that or was it some media slappy/blogger? I would contend that the new management in Toronto will do everything they can to not use the amnesty clause. Ujiri will try and get something in return for Bargs and the Raps' PR people will sell it to their fan base.

Irregardless of what happens, if Stuckey and CV are gone (I don't care how really) and we get BarneyYarney at a reasonable price, I'll be pretty stoked.

Did someone (other than Colangelo) from the Raps organization say that or was it some media slappy/blogger? I would contend that the new management in Toronto will do everything they can to not use the amnesty clause. Ujiri will try and get something in return for Bargs and the Raps' PR people will sell it to their fan base.

Irregardless of what happens, if Stuckey and CV are gone (I don't care how really) and we get BarneyYarney at a reasonable price, I'll be pretty stoked.

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I think you might be giving Ujiri too much credit. But that's to be expected, coming from a Denver homer like yourself. (Nice avatar by the way, did you stitch that yourself?)

I think you might be giving Ujiri too much credit. But that's to be expected, coming from a Denver homer like yourself. (Nice avatar by the way, did you stitch that yourself?)

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Shut it CJ.

My view doesn't necessary stem from thinking Masai Ujiri is the second coming of Jack McCloskey. It's more of an issue of Bryan Colangelo being a total simp. Ujiri is a very competent guy and Toronto will improve as a result.

My view doesn't necessary stem from thinking Masai Ujiri is the second coming of Jack McCloskey. It's more of an issue of Bryan Colangelo being a total simp. Ujiri is a very competent guy and Toronto will improve as a result.

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I lol'd.

Bryan Colangelo was thought to be a genius when we went to Toronto if I recall correctly. Wasn't he the architect of the Steve Nash-led Phoenix Suns?

Bryan Colangelo was thought to be a genius when we went to Toronto if I recall correctly. Wasn't he the architect of the Steve Nash-led Phoenix Suns?

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Yes he put together those Suns teams with Amare and Steve Nash. Those teams had the amazing ability to lose games 130 to 128. I'd say that over the past 4 years or so, he's been battling a couple other NBA execs at trying to become the most incompetent GM in the league. Unfortunately, one of the guys he's been battling keeps the popcorn venders busy at the Palace.

Yes he put together those Suns teams with Amare and Steve Nash. Those teams had the amazing ability to lose games 130 to 128. I'd say that over the past 4 years or so, he's been battling a couple other NBA execs at trying to become the most incompetent GM in the league. Unfortunately, one of the guys he's been battling keeps the popcorn venders busy at the Palace.

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There's nothing like some good ole' fashion competition, I always say....

Just saying, Toronto is "dating the hot chick" again. Colangelo still had way more success in Phoenix than Ujiri had in Denver. That doesn't mean he's a better candidate, maybe he just got lucky. I'm just going to remain skeptical that Toronto (or Detroit) is going to be any good this decade until I see it.

Just saying, Toronto is "dating the hot chick" again. Colangelo still had way more success in Phoenix than Ujiri had in Denver. That doesn't mean he's a better candidate, maybe he just got lucky. I'm just going to remain skeptical that Toronto (or Detroit) is going to be any good this decade until I see it.

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Denver has one of the deepest rosters in the Association. When it's all said and done, the core of this Nuggets roster will out-perform those PHX teams. ...they only need to win one Conference finals matchup.