Wait, wait, wait... Adyon are you implying that characters in Sinfest have, at least occasionally, a level of depth which makes accepting or rejecting their premises wholesale intellectually problematic? I don't like it. I, like all men (hurr hurr), like my philosophy in stark black and white._________________"Worse comes to worst, my people come first, but my tribe lives on every country on earth. Iíll do anything to protect them from hurt, the human race is what I serve." - Baba Brinkman

Truly, I'm really pleased to see this comic. I love that Tat has finally made it explicit that feminism gets rather complex.

For instance, this comic seems to have a really strong stance against pornography--but many feminists seem to have different issues with the industry and practice of using pornography. Anyway, I appreciate the treat, it's kind of nice to see Squig's carefree personality struggle with an ethical issue like this.

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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:43 pm Post subject:

Okay, I consider myself a rational feminist, that's not a type, but a personal approach. I don't think of the Sisterhood as RadFems, more second-wave perhaps, but definitely not like any of the RadFems I've encountered. Those women are just off the chain!

Also, I am not of the opinion that second-wave feminists are sex-negative. They are against misogynistic power dynamics around sex and the industry that is absolutely androcentric as we have inherited it. Second-wave feminists were raised in a different culture from ours. Women went to college to get their Mrs. degree; the career they were groomed for was as a wife and mother; they had just won the right to vote, but were taught to keep ignorant of politics and most anything outside of homemaking; they were supposed to be subservient, submissive. It was legal for a husband to rape his wife because sex was his right to have and take as he wished. Access to birth control was just becoming available, and of course, Roe v. Wade gave women some control over their own bodies. All of that is taken for granted by Gen Y and the millennials, and they act accordingly, but the old guard is still in control for now in re: the sex industry, and even in marriage, though I don't feel that the power dynamics of a modern marriage are those of my mother's or even mine. Guys today seem more open to the idea that women are their own people._________________Flow like honey, taste like vinegar.

Yea I also know some female feminists liking porn. But its the respectful kind. (yes it exists) The ones with much eye contact, hugging, caressing and much more aimed at satisfying the woman alltogether.
Not my stuff though.

Oh no Dogen, I'd never imply that! I definitely hate things like that too! I like my messages straightforward, cold, and calculating with no way to think of them as having any depth! But not just me...obviously all men as you said. Tat too though...He must obviously be writing everything at face value alone, and no characters must be more complex than the stereotypical archetype they're first presented as!

Yea I also know some female feminists liking porn. But its the respectful kind. (yes it exists) The ones with much eye contact, hugging, caressing and much more aimed at satisfying the woman alltogether.

Psh...who could like that kind of thing...with all it's focus on actual emotion and realistic tones. Like movies that have anything besides explosions, sex, action, and explosions...I mean seriously, who wants good characters and stories? It's cutting down on time for explosions!_________________

Did somebody say third wave?
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