Recent document on Jews merely a symptom

While it is right to express outrage over the Pontifical Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews’ recently published document on Nostra Aetate, the only responsible response must go well beyond the document in question to include the source of the very errors that inform it.

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On December 10th – the Pontifical Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews published a 10,000 word treatise on Nostra Aetate – the Second Vatican Council document on the Church’s relation to non-Christians.

Many of my colleagues in Catholic media are outraged by this document. Now, don’t get me wrong. I am pleased to see their outrage. I am even more pleased to see it being shared by those who are just now having their eyes opened to this extent of this crisis.

And yet, I am pleased to see this document published.

Why?

Simply put, because it makes perfectly plain a point that I, and others, have been making for some time: Nostra Aetate contains grave error.

I’ve linked two important articles below, both originally written in March, that demonstrate as much; meticulously and clearly. In support of this argument, these articles offers excerpts taken from a speech given by Cardinal Kurt Koch – the President of the Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews.

The reaction to these articles from those who are unwilling to condemn the Council sometimes went as follows:

Sure, I can see how certain churchmen, like Cardinal Koch, have used Nostra Aetate to teach heresy with respect to the Jews, but I don’t agree that this is what the Council really meant…

While this argument was weak half a year ago, today it is entirely unsustainable. You see, what this most recent document from the Pontifical Commission provides is nothing less than the “official” meaning of Nostra Aetate’s treatment of the Jews.

Today, there can no longer be any question whatsoever as to what the Council is teaching; much less is there any question as to how that teaching is to be applied in the life of the Church if accepted.

In any case, the punchline to this latest contribution to the post-conciliar apostasy in Rome can be summed up as follows:

Catholics are henceforth encouraged to consign the Jews to eternal death. I’ll say that again just in case you missed it:

Catholics are henceforth encouraged to consign the Jews to eternal death. In other words, let them rot in Hell.

Of course, the Captains of the church-of-man that emerged following the so-called “New Pentecost” of Vatican II don’t use those precise words, but make no mistake, that is exactly what they are saying.

The document states:

“It is easy to understand that the so–called ‘mission to the Jews’ is a very delicate and sensitive matter for Jews because, in their eyes, it involves the very existence of the Jewish people.”

Please allow me to translate: The Jews are uneasy about the Church’s mission because rejecting Jesus Christ, well… this goes to the very heart of what it means to be a Jew. If we invite them to “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins” as St. Peter did on the day of Pentecost, we may as well ask them to become a new creation.

But isn’t that what Baptism does for everyone? Why is it OK to bring an individual heathen, or Buddhist, or Muslim to new life in Christ, but not the Jews?

Well, according to the Unholy See, they’re different. Before we get to how they’re different, the document then states:

“This question also proves to be awkward for Christians, because for them the universal salvific significance of Jesus Christ and consequently the universal mission of the Church are of fundamental importance.”

Notice what is being done here: The “fundamental importance” of the Church’s “universal mission” is being reduced to an esoteric concept that is valid only for Christians. In other words, the document speaks of “universal mission” in one breath, while deeming it less-than-universal in the next. This is classic conciliar contradiction.

The document goes on:

“The Church is therefore obliged to view evangelisation to Jews, who believe in the one God, in a different manner from that to people of other religions and world views. In concrete terms this means that the Catholic Church neither conducts nor supports any specific institutional mission work directed towards Jews.”

Did you get that?

Christ the King sent His disciples forth to baptize all nations. St. Peter, who was there that day, understood this to mean the Jews as well as much as anyone else.

The apostates running the show in Rome today, however, say, “No, we have no evangelizing mission to the Jews!”

A true Catholic can not fail to recognize that this is tantamount saying the Jews can go to hEll for all we care!

According to newchurch, by contrast, we have no mission to the Jews because their salvation is secure in spite of their rejection of Jesus Christ!

The document states:

“From the Christian confession that there can be only one path to salvation, however, it does not in any way follow that the Jews are excluded from God’s salvation because they do not believe in Jesus Christ as the Messiah of Israel and the Son of God.”

First, note the qualifier, from the Christian confession… This is an obvious attempt to suggest that there are more than one “confessions” or sets of belief that are valid. The Christian confession, on the one hand, that proclaims Jesus Christ as the solitary way of salvation, and the Jewish confession that rejects Him entirely.

As for the consequences of that rejection?

To the men of newchurch, there are none. They cannot possibly say so any more plainly. I’ll repeat it in case you missed it:

“It does not in any way follow that the Jews are excluded from God’s salvation because they do not believe in Jesus Christ…”

By contrast, Jesus Christ, apart from whom no one is included in “God’s salvation” – that’s Catholicism 101 – said, He who rejects me rejects God. And yet the Unholy See is insisting that this “does not in any way follow?”

This latest abomination from Rome is saying that Jesus Christ is optional for salvation.

This is either the truth, or it’s wholesale apostasy. If it’s the truth, then Our Blessed Lord is a liar, His first Vicar, St. Peter, is a damned fool, and so are all of the Saints and Doctors of the Church who ever lived! We can’t have it both ways.

So, in which will you believe – that this abominable document from Rome represents a total repudiation of the Christian faith, or that Jesus Christ is a liar? It’s one or the other.

It’s not a very difficult choice, and not just for so-called “traditionalists” – aka Catholics.

Presumably, it’s not a difficult choice for Michael Voris, or Jimmy Akin, or Karl Keating, or anyone else who fashions themselves a “conservative” Catholic.

The difficult part, at least for many of them, is going to be coming to grips with what all of this really means.

I was speaking the other day with my good friend Damian Goddard, and we came to the conclusion that while our conservative friends know that something is wrong in the Church; in fact, they talk about it often, they’ll only go so far in addressing the underlying malady.

In other words, they’ll admit that the Church has headache, but they can’t bring themselves to acknowledge that the Body of Christ on earth has something more akin to cancer.

In the present case, remember what we’re talking about here: This document recently published by the Pontifical Commission for Relations with the Jews isn’t the product of just another crackpot cardinal spouting off with a bunch happy homespun heterodoxy.

No; it’s much more than that. This document is nothing less than the “official” teaching of Vatican Council II in action.

This being the case, while it is right to express outrage at this terrible affront to Our Blessed Lord and our Holy Catholic faith, the only responsible response must go beyond the document in question itself to include the errors of Vatican II that inform it.

It will be interesting to see how many of those with a voice in Catholic media have the wherewithal to stand up and be counted for Christ in the aftermath of this attack, knowing as I do firsthand, that this side of Heaven, there is a price to be paid for doing so.

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FrankDecember 11, 2015

Congratulations Louie. You have begun to delve into what I, in my brief time as a traditional Catholic, have not seen much of in the traditional Catholic media: The Jewish rejection of our LORD and consequently the reality of the diabolical nature of todays Judaism and jewry and the disgusting pandering to the Jews (And by jews I mean a belief system based essentially on the Talmud, not genetics) , by the Popes and Clergy of The Catholic Church, who make no mistake about it (the jews I mean) , mostly follow the blasphemous, racist, satanic Talmud; whether they are religious or not, has to be called out. For anyone who wants to learn about the reality of the jews and Judaism today and the threat they pose, which is greater than the muslims, read traditional Catholic Hugh Akins “Synagogue Rising”. I’m not yet through with it myself, but it is eye opening, frightening and extremely important !

This is without a doubt, as Louie says, the official stance of the vatican 2 religion. The problem though is that if one acknowledges the vatican 2 religion as the Catholic religion, then one has no choice but to abide by its teachings, which of course would mean that the Church prior to vatican 2 was wrong….which is obviously not a possibility in dogmatic terms. You cant say “yeah, vatican 2 is Catholic, but….” We must at all times obey the pope on matters of the known faith. If he promotes ideas contradictory to the known faith…well, then we should know which direction we have to take.

How and why do these modernists keep coming up with all this hogwash and garbage-? I’m only a few days from being the same age as Fr. Bergoglio. We’ve lived through the same periods of history and I simply cannot fathom how he comes up with these false ideas about the Catholic Faith. I guess I will never be considered an intellectual. Than you, God.

I’m no intellectual either, but the Lord has given me a finely tuned high gain BS detector… and the red alert horn has been going off a lot lately. Thank God you are not an “intellectual” if it make you a Son of Satan. You’ve got more sense than a planeload of Jesuit scribes. Keep fighting.

Matthew 23:13 But woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you shut the kingdom of heaven against men, for you yourselves do not enter in; and those that are going in, you suffer not to enter

Looks like those fools forgot their copies of the Athanasian Creed at home!

Not to mention:

“Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist, who denieth the Father, and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father. He that confesseth the Son, hath the Father also.”
– 1st Epistle Of Saint John 2:22-23

“He that is not with Me is against Me: and he that gathereth not with Me, scattereth.”
Gospel of St. Matthew 12:30, Douay Rheims

“And every spirit that dissolveth Jesus, is not of God: and this is Antichrist, of whom you have heard that he cometh, and he is now already in the world.”
– 1st Epistle Of Saint John 4:3

Jesus saith to him: Have I been so long a time with you; and have you not known me? Philip, he that seeth me seeth the Father also. How sayest thou, shew us the Father? Do you not believe, that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak to you, I speak not of myself. But the Father who abideth in me, he doth the works.Believe you not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? Otherwise believe for the very works’ sake. Amen, amen I say to you, he that believeth in me, the works that I do, he also shall do; and greater than these shall he do. Because I go to the Father: and whatsoever you shall ask the Father in my name, that will I do: that the Father may be glorified in the Son.If you shall ask me any thing in my name, that I will do.
– Gospel According to Saint John 14:9-15

“Jesus saith to him: I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by me. If you had known me, you would without doubt have known my Father also: and from henceforth you shall know him, and you have seen him.”
– Gospel According to Saint John 14:6-7
-DOUAY RHEIMS

“The Jews, who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and have persecuted us, do not please God, and they are adversaries to all men, prohibiting us from speaking to the Gentiles that they may be saved, to fill up their sin always: for the wrath of God has come upon them to the end.”

— St. Paul, I Thessalonians 2:14-16

“You stiff-necked people, with uncircumcised hearts and ears! You are just like your fathers: You always resist the Holy Spirit! Was there ever a prophet your fathers did not persecute? They even killed those who predicted the coming of the Righteous One. And now you have betrayed and murdered him, you who have received the law that was put into effect through angels but have not obeyed it.”

–St. Stephen, Acts 7:51-53

“It would be licit, according to custom, to hold the Jews in perpetual servitude because of their crime.”

— St. Thomas Aquinas

“Crucifiers of Christ ought to be held in continual subjection.”

— Pope Innocent III

“The Lord made Cain a wanderer and fugitive over the earth, but set a mark upon him, lest anyone finding him might slay him. Thus the Jews, against whom the blood of Christ calls out, although they ought not be killed, nevertheless as wanderers they must remain upon the earth until their faces be filled with shame and they seek the name of Jesus Christ the Lord.”

— Pope Innocent III

“Ungrateful for favors and forgetful of benefits, the Jews return insult for kindness and impious contempt for goodness granted. They ought to know the yoke of perpetual enslavement because of their guilt. See to it that the perfidious Jews never in the future grow insolent, but that in servile fear they always suffer publicly the shame of their sin.”

— Pope Gregory IX

“Let the Gospel be preached to them and, if they remain obstinate, let them be expelled.”

— Pope Leo VII

“One who dies a Jew will be damned.”

— St. Vincent Ferrer

“The Jews are enemies of God and foes of our holy religion.”

— St. Padre Pio

“The Jews were unworthy to perceive the meaning of the divinely-inspired Scriptures which speak of the mystery of Christ. And because they had taken no notice of the truth, they made themselves unworthy of the salvation which flows from Christ.”

— St. Cyril of Alexandria

“Jews are slayers of the Lord, murderers of the prophets, enemies and haters of God, adversaries of grace, enemies of their fathers’ faith, advocates of the devil, a brood of vipers, slanderers, scoffers, men of darkened minds, the leaven of Pharisees, a congregation of demons, sinners, wicked men, haters of goodness!”

— St. Gregory of Nyssa

“The Jews wander over the entire earth, their backs bent and their eyes cast downward, forever calling to our minds the curse they carry with them.”

-St. Augustine

“If someone should kill the beloved son of a man, and then stretch forth their hands still stained with blood to the afflicted father, asking for fellowship, would not the blood of his son, visible on the hand of his murderer, provoke him to just anger instead? And such are the prayers of the Jews, for when they stretch forth their hands in prayer, they only remind God-the-Father of their sin against His Son. And at every stretching-forth of their hands, they only make it obvious that they are stained with the blood of Christ. For they who persevere in their blindness inherit the blood-guilt of their fathers; for they cried out: “His blood be upon us, and upon our children” (Matthew xxvii.25).”

— St. Basil the Great

“Poor Jews! You invoked a dreadful curse upon your own heads in saying: “His blood be on us and our children”; and that curse, miserable race, you carry upon you to this day, and to the End of Time you shall endure the chastisement of that innocent blood. O my Jesus! … I will not be obstinate like the Jews. I will love Thee forever, forever, forever!”

— St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori

“We order all our brother bishops absolutely to suppress the blasphemy of Jews in your dioceses, churches, and communities, so that they do not dare raise their necks, bent under eternal slavery, to revile the Redeemer.”

— Pope Gregory IX

“It is known that the Jewish people are polluted with wickedness, blasphemy, and the shedding of the blood of Jesus Christ so that their wickedness has no limit.”

“….while our conservative friends know that something is wrong in the Church; in fact, they talk about it often, they’ll only go so far in addressing the underlying malady. In other words, they’ll admit that the Church has headache, but they can’t bring themselves to acknowledge that the Body of Christ on earth has something more akin to cancer.”

Cancer is something you wouldn’t choose on your own. I would use the analogy of AIDS instead – a disease nearly 100% avoidable by one’s own choice, and a disease that renders one unable to fight off infection. Vatican II is the AIDS of the Catholic Church.

While reading an article on this topic by Robert Sungenis, I came across this quote from no other than the man who does theology on his knees.

Cardinal Walter Kasper, President of the Pontifical Commission for the Religious Relations with the Jews, explained this practice. In a formal statement made first at the seventeenth meeting of the International Catholic-Jewish Liaison Committee in May 2001, and repeated later in the year in Jerusalem, Cardinal Kasper spoke of “mission” in a narrow sense to mean “proclamation” or the invitation to baptism and catechesis. He showed why such initiatives are not appropriately directed at Jews:

“The term mission, in its proper sense, refers to conversion from false gods and idols to the true and one God, who revealed himself in the salvation history with His elected people. Thus mission, in this strict sense, cannot be used with regard to Jews, who believe in the true and one God. Therefore, and this is characteristic, there exists dialogue but there does not exist any Catholic missionary organization for Jews.”

And here, we can see very similar language in p.247 of EG. I would not be surprised if Kasper wrote this section of EG.

Evangelii Gaudium
Relations with Judaism
247. We hold the Jewish people in special regard because their covenant with God has never been revoked, for “the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable” (Rom 11:29). The Church, which shares with Jews an important part of the sacred Scriptures, looks upon the people of the covenant and their faith as one of the sacred roots of her own Christian identity (cf. Rom 11:16-18). As Christians, we cannot consider Judaism as a foreign religion; nor do we include the Jews among those called to turn from idols and to serve the true God (cf. 1 Thes 1:9). With them, we believe in the one God who acts in history, and with them we accept his revealed word.

1. The Jews do not have to “turn from idols” – but:
a. If that is a reason not to evangelise them, it is a reason not to evangelise Mahometans either. (As the framers of the document are probably aware.)
b. The Jews have no external idols – but what about turning from ideas and desires that function as idols ? Idols in the heart and soul need to be turned from too.
c. The point is not that they worship the God of the OT, but that they do not accept and worship “Jesus Christ Whom He has sent”. And to reject Christ, is to to reject the One Who sent Him.

Granted, the Jews suffered terribly during the Shoah – but how is that a reason not to evangelise them ? The implication seems to be that the anti-Jewish mood in the CC before WW2 disqualifies the CC from evangelising the Jews. It does not, and cannot, for no amount of sin in the Church can blot out the Grace of Christ which makes the Church to be the Church. The CC is not purely or primarily human, but Divine. Not to evangelise the Jews is profoundly anti-Jewish, disobedient to Christ, and unspeakably cruel.

I would like to know when the word “mission” acquired the narrow sense the Cardinal claims for it. There is no such restriction in the NT.

Yes. That is a great conversion story of a Jew by Our Lady. I often think about it.
—–http://www.traditioninaction.org/SOD/j112sdOLMiracles_1-20.ht
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Alphonse Ratisbonne became a Jesuit priest, took the name Marie-Alphonse, and later co-founded the Order of Sion to convert Jews.
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Have you seen what the modernist church has done to Alphonse Ratisbonne’s “Order of Sion” whose mission it was to convert the Jews?
Check out their new “goals.”http://www.brothersofsion.org.il/Result.asp?recordID=commhistory
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“After the re-direction of the official teachings regarding Judaism, the Fathers (of the Order of Sion) changed from an emphasis on the conversion of Jews to working to foster understanding and the development of deeper ties between Christians and Jews.”

They don’t even have the decency to disband the order. They have turn it’s mission around to just “understanding” Jews. So I guess that means looking at the Talmud from which we know they have a hatred of Jesus Christ and Our Lady. So what’s left to understand?!

This is incredibly disappointing. Why would anyone think our dear Lord wouldn’t want the Jews to have the full Truth and all the blessings and graces offered through His Holy Catholic Church? How selfish -and demonic- to purposely keep people out. God help us all.

Excellent video, Louie.
……… “knowing as you and Damian Goddard do firsthand, that this side of Heaven, there is a price to be paid for …. speaking Truth …….
May you both persevere and may Our Good God reward you.

Matthew 15:24-28 :24And he answering, said: I was not sent but to the sheep that are lost of the house of Israel. 25But she came and adored him, saying: Lord, help me. 26Who answering, said: It is not good to take the bread of the children, and to cast it to the dogs. 27But she said: Yea, Lord; for the whelps also eat of the crumbs that fall from the table of their masters. 28Then Jesus answering, said to her: O woman, great is thy faith: be it done to thee as thou wilt: and her daughter was cured from that hour.

Our Lord Jesus Christ came first to convert the Jews – it was to them he preached and ministered, and from whom he chose the first pope and bishops, and priests. To exclude those who practise Judaism from the mission of His Holy Church on Earth, is to explicitly disobey and defy God. It is the solemn mission of the Church to go out and preach the truth of redemption through the Incarnation to all men. Do they (we) not tremble to go against the sacred duty given them (us) by Christ, Our Lord and Saviour?? They have no Faith; they have positioned themselves in opposition to Gid and His commands. Lord, have mercy.

A fish rots from the head, and the headless chicken has about two minutes of headless meaninglessness.
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‘This abominable doctrine’ is the mutant beast Dr Frankenstein/Frankenchurch implanted into the non-Catholic heart of the Novus Ordo. There is no Catholicity in such…none.
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The Bride, the Faithful Immaculate Spouse of Christ, is immune from such Protestant treachery.
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Rabbinicalism believes in a god who hates Christ; Imamism believes in a god who hates Jews and Christians and rejects the Precious Blood, and confuses (in their scriptures) the leper-stricken sister of Moses with Immaculata. Buddhism believes in a no-go that overcomes all salvation in the name of nirvana. VII respects all of the above with ‘apostolic authority’ = bollocks = their authority ended the moment they signed their ‘respect’ for satan. The big deal in the past made about pacts with satan…wow…take a look at VII and its New Order…it is a finessed pact with satan that would put Caiaphas to shame.
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PS believe it or not there is an old Jewish tale about a village of ‘persecuted’ Jews, who entered a Catholic Church and found solace from Our Lady…
–http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/the-kosher-church.htm

Remember, proselytizing is “solemn nonsense”. I heard about this from Voice of the Family and was shocked, however this confirms the sense I had when I used to attend the NO, namely, that you simply wonder if there remains any shred of belief whatsoever in Our Divine Lord any longer.