Short of that unrealistic hope, I would like to find someone who would actually be psyched to hang the draws for me with the right amount of support and encouragement. (Another unrealistic hope?) The draw-hanging joke is actually not fun anymore, I do seriously want to punch faces when I hear that, and since you, Shaun and Ed are particularly prone to it, your faces are in most danger.

Wait, now I'm comfrused. When you say "hang your draws," do you mean in the literal, or euphemistic sense? Because seriously, part of project climbing is just sussing out a route, and putting your own draws up via hang dogging, stickclipping, or whatever. Not by getting a stronger partner to do it, that will seriously limit your options.

My bad, I kind of thought that you would rather climb something that is a project for me, but relatively-easy one go climb for you, instead of belaying me for couple hours while I haul up the stick clip and suss out the moves. Duly noted. I will stop feeling bad about taking too long on a climb, and start taking couple hours per burn. I am sure I will lose some partners that way, but you just volunteered?

Next weekend of climbing together, I promise to stick clip up every bolt up Made in Shade. Tell me you would have gotten on Fuel Injector if it didn't have the draws hanging though, and I would call you a liar.

Btw, report from Ed says that Shaun sent 8ball first go, and Ed sent Trust in Jesus 3rd go, his first 11b.

you're more likely to lose partners being unpleasant than being slow on a route.

it doesn't take hours to stick clip aid a route. I didn't even take me hours to ghetto aid New Traditionalist!

and you're way the fuck stronger than I was last fall when I did all the moves on Made in the Shade. Why don't you just fucking try it?

Gee, you are back on hormone pills, or something? You've never struck me before as being unable to understand hyperbole.

No, it doesn't take hours to stick clip your way up a route, but it does take a fair bit of time. I do believe camhead was present the one time we were all waiting around for about 45 min for a girl to get up the Scar Tissue at the Red, and he was distinctly not amused by it. I do believe that working through the moves on Made in Shade will take about that long for me. It took you no less that that, when you tried it.

I didn't get on Made in Shade because i had one hour total to climb, when we walked it to Area 51. Matt was the first one to get on it, Paul was belaying, and Cat was taking pictures. I had no one to belay me, even if the route was open. I suppose I could have shouted, ME FIRST! But Matt didn't climb much in the morning, it was his turn to climb.

When Matt came down, Paul started climbing on his project, with Matt belaying. I have not met Cat until this weekend, and have not actually seen her belay anyone all weekend, even though mat obviously trusted her, I was not comfortable with her belaying me on a hard project, so I decided that I want to do something easy and quick, instead.

I believed that camhead was speaking from personal experience, when he told me that the Waco was a short fun juggy climb I would like. He neglected to mention that he has never been on it. I walked over there with my own draws, planning to climb it, and yes, hang the draws. Two other guys were on it by then, I knew them, they let me climb on their draws to clean the route. I did climb, I cleaned it, and I did not enjoy the route.

... I ask for entertainzment, and ewe have provided.

I know. But I won't be AB and run away when dribble starts hating on me, because i still love the sad boy, stress and all.

I think the last big family fight we had was jake vs GG?

I couldn't quite figure out that one. It was something about GG repeating the tired old joke about Rumney being a chosspile, and Jake hating on it? It didn't seem like that big a fight, I was surprised wiith how it ended.

throw in some quick temper, sensitivity about the fact that rumney really is a ledgy bouldering area with a few bolts per boulder problem, and a bit of past issues ...

Short of that unrealistic hope, I would like to find someone who would actually be psyched to hang the draws for me with the right amount of support and encouragement. (Another unrealistic hope?) The draw-hanging joke is actually not fun anymore, I do seriously want to punch faces when I hear that, and since you, Shaun and Ed are particularly prone to it, your faces are in most danger.

Wait, now I'm comfrused. When you say "hang your draws," do you mean in the literal, or euphemistic sense? Because seriously, part of project climbing is just sussing out a route, and putting your own draws up via hang dogging, stickclipping, or whatever. Not by getting a stronger partner to do it, that will seriously limit your options.

My bad, I kind of thought that you would rather climb something that is a project for me, but relatively-easy one go climb for you, instead of belaying me for couple hours while I haul up the stick clip and suss out the moves. Duly noted. I will stop feeling bad about taking too long on a climb, and start taking couple hours per burn. I am sure I will lose some partners that way, but you just volunteered?

Next weekend of climbing together, I promise to stick clip up every bolt up Made in Shade. Tell me you would have gotten on Fuel Injector if it didn't have the draws hanging though, and I would call you a liar.

Btw, report from Ed says that Shaun sent 8ball first go, and Ed sent Trust in Jesus 3rd go, his first 11b.

you're more likely to lose partners being unpleasant than being slow on a route.

it doesn't take hours to stick clip aid a route. I didn't even take me hours to ghetto aid New Traditionalist!

and you're way the fuck stronger than I was last fall when I did all the moves on Made in the Shade. Why don't you just fucking try it?

Gee, you are back on hormone pills, or something? You've never struck me before as being unable to understand hyperbole.

No, it doesn't take hours to stick clip your way up a route, but it does take a fair bit of time. I do believe camhead was present the one time we were all waiting around for about 45 min for a girl to get up the Scar Tissue at the Red, and he was distinctly not amused by it. I do believe that working through the moves on Made in Shade will take about that long for me. It took you no less that that, when you tried it.

I didn't get on Made in Shade because i had one hour total to climb, when we walked it to Area 51. Matt was the first one to get on it, Paul was belaying, and Cat was taking pictures. I had no one to belay me, even if the route was open. I suppose I could have shouted, ME FIRST! But Matt didn't climb much in the morning, it was his turn to climb.

When Matt came down, Paul started climbing on his project, with Matt belaying. I have not met Cat until this weekend, and have not actually seen her belay anyone all weekend, even though mat obviously trusted her, I was not comfortable with her belaying me on a hard project, so I decided that I want to do something easy and quick, instead.

I believed that camhead was speaking from personal experience, when he told me that the Waco was a short fun juggy climb I would like. He neglected to mention that he has never been on it. I walked over there with my own draws, planning to climb it, and yes, hang the draws. Two other guys were on it by then, I knew them, they let me climb on their draws to clean the route. I did climb, I cleaned it, and I did not enjoy the route.

... I ask for entertainzment, and ewe have provided.

I know. But I won't be AB and run away when dribble starts hating on me, because i still love the sad boy, stress and all.

I think the last big family fight we had was jake vs GG?

I couldn't quite figure out that one. It was something about GG repeating the tired old joke about Rumney being a chosspile, and Jake hating on it? It didn't seem like that big a fight, I was surprised wiith how it ended.

Short of that unrealistic hope, I would like to find someone who would actually be psyched to hang the draws for me with the right amount of support and encouragement. (Another unrealistic hope?) The draw-hanging joke is actually not fun anymore, I do seriously want to punch faces when I hear that, and since you, Shaun and Ed are particularly prone to it, your faces are in most danger.

Wait, now I'm comfrused. When you say "hang your draws," do you mean in the literal, or euphemistic sense? Because seriously, part of project climbing is just sussing out a route, and putting your own draws up via hang dogging, stickclipping, or whatever. Not by getting a stronger partner to do it, that will seriously limit your options.

My bad, I kind of thought that you would rather climb something that is a project for me, but relatively-easy one go climb for you, instead of belaying me for couple hours while I haul up the stick clip and suss out the moves. Duly noted. I will stop feeling bad about taking too long on a climb, and start taking couple hours per burn. I am sure I will lose some partners that way, but you just volunteered?

Next weekend of climbing together, I promise to stick clip up every bolt up Made in Shade. Tell me you would have gotten on Fuel Injector if it didn't have the draws hanging though, and I would call you a liar.

Btw, report from Ed says that Shaun sent 8ball first go, and Ed sent Trust in Jesus 3rd go, his first 11b.

you're more likely to lose partners being unpleasant than being slow on a route.

it doesn't take hours to stick clip aid a route. I didn't even take me hours to ghetto aid New Traditionalist!

and you're way the fuck stronger than I was last fall when I did all the moves on Made in the Shade. Why don't you just fucking try it?

Gee, you are back on hormone pills, or something? You've never struck me before as being unable to understand hyperbole.

No, it doesn't take hours to stick clip your way up a route, but it does take a fair bit of time. I do believe camhead was present the one time we were all waiting around for about 45 min for a girl to get up the Scar Tissue at the Red, and he was distinctly not amused by it. I do believe that working through the moves on Made in Shade will take about that long for me. It took you no less that that, when you tried it.

I didn't get on Made in Shade because i had one hour total to climb, when we walked it to Area 51. Matt was the first one to get on it, Paul was belaying, and Cat was taking pictures. I had no one to belay me, even if the route was open. I suppose I could have shouted, ME FIRST! But Matt didn't climb much in the morning, it was his turn to climb.

When Matt came down, Paul started climbing on his project, with Matt belaying. I have not met Cat until this weekend, and have not actually seen her belay anyone all weekend, even though mat obviously trusted her, I was not comfortable with her belaying me on a hard project, so I decided that I want to do something easy and quick, instead.

I believed that camhead was speaking from personal experience, when he told me that the Waco was a short fun juggy climb I would like. He neglected to mention that he has never been on it. I walked over there with my own draws, planning to climb it, and yes, hang the draws. Two other guys were on it by then, I knew them, they let me climb on their draws to clean the route. I did climb, I cleaned it, and I did not enjoy the route.

... I ask for entertainzment, and ewe have provided.

I know. But I won't be AB and run away when dribble starts hating on me, because i still love the sad boy, stress and all.

I think the last big family fight we had was jake vs GG?

I couldn't quite figure out that one. It was something about GG repeating the tired old joke about Rumney being a chosspile, and Jake hating on it? It didn't seem like that big a fight, I was surprised wiith how it ended.

In a nut shell, Jake's GF doesn't like me, and apparently I was mean.

shit. forgot to mention teh grape issue.

GG doesn't like to share her grapes? Or did she eat Jake's grapes? That is really mean!

Short of that unrealistic hope, I would like to find someone who would actually be psyched to hang the draws for me with the right amount of support and encouragement. (Another unrealistic hope?) The draw-hanging joke is actually not fun anymore, I do seriously want to punch faces when I hear that, and since you, Shaun and Ed are particularly prone to it, your faces are in most danger.

Wait, now I'm comfrused. When you say "hang your draws," do you mean in the literal, or euphemistic sense? Because seriously, part of project climbing is just sussing out a route, and putting your own draws up via hang dogging, stickclipping, or whatever. Not by getting a stronger partner to do it, that will seriously limit your options.

My bad, I kind of thought that you would rather climb something that is a project for me, but relatively-easy one go climb for you, instead of belaying me for couple hours while I haul up the stick clip and suss out the moves. Duly noted. I will stop feeling bad about taking too long on a climb, and start taking couple hours per burn. I am sure I will lose some partners that way, but you just volunteered?

Next weekend of climbing together, I promise to stick clip up every bolt up Made in Shade. Tell me you would have gotten on Fuel Injector if it didn't have the draws hanging though, and I would call you a liar.

Btw, report from Ed says that Shaun sent 8ball first go, and Ed sent Trust in Jesus 3rd go, his first 11b.

you're more likely to lose partners being unpleasant than being slow on a route.

it doesn't take hours to stick clip aid a route. I didn't even take me hours to ghetto aid New Traditionalist!

and you're way the fuck stronger than I was last fall when I did all the moves on Made in the Shade. Why don't you just fucking try it?

Gee, you are back on hormone pills, or something? You've never struck me before as being unable to understand hyperbole.

No, it doesn't take hours to stick clip your way up a route, but it does take a fair bit of time. I do believe camhead was present the one time we were all waiting around for about 45 min for a girl to get up the Scar Tissue at the Red, and he was distinctly not amused by it. I do believe that working through the moves on Made in Shade will take about that long for me. It took you no less that that, when you tried it.

I didn't get on Made in Shade because i had one hour total to climb, when we walked it to Area 51. Matt was the first one to get on it, Paul was belaying, and Cat was taking pictures. I had no one to belay me, even if the route was open. I suppose I could have shouted, ME FIRST! But Matt didn't climb much in the morning, it was his turn to climb.

When Matt came down, Paul started climbing on his project, with Matt belaying. I have not met Cat until this weekend, and have not actually seen her belay anyone all weekend, even though mat obviously trusted her, I was not comfortable with her belaying me on a hard project, so I decided that I want to do something easy and quick, instead.

I believed that camhead was speaking from personal experience, when he told me that the Waco was a short fun juggy climb I would like. He neglected to mention that he has never been on it. I walked over there with my own draws, planning to climb it, and yes, hang the draws. Two other guys were on it by then, I knew them, they let me climb on their draws to clean the route. I did climb, I cleaned it, and I did not enjoy the route.

... I ask for entertainzment, and ewe have provided.

I know. But I won't be AB and run away when dribble starts hating on me, because i still love the sad boy, stress and all.

I think the last big family fight we had was jake vs GG?

I couldn't quite figure out that one. It was something about GG repeating the tired old joke about Rumney being a chosspile, and Jake hating on it? It didn't seem like that big a fight, I was surprised wiith how it ended.

In a nut shell, Jake's GF doesn't like me, and apparently I was mean.

shit. forgot to mention teh grape issue.

GG doesn't like to share her grapes? Or did she eat Jake's grapes? That is really mean!

Short of that unrealistic hope, I would like to find someone who would actually be psyched to hang the draws for me with the right amount of support and encouragement. (Another unrealistic hope?) The draw-hanging joke is actually not fun anymore, I do seriously want to punch faces when I hear that, and since you, Shaun and Ed are particularly prone to it, your faces are in most danger.

Wait, now I'm comfrused. When you say "hang your draws," do you mean in the literal, or euphemistic sense? Because seriously, part of project climbing is just sussing out a route, and putting your own draws up via hang dogging, stickclipping, or whatever. Not by getting a stronger partner to do it, that will seriously limit your options.

My bad, I kind of thought that you would rather climb something that is a project for me, but relatively-easy one go climb for you, instead of belaying me for couple hours while I haul up the stick clip and suss out the moves. Duly noted. I will stop feeling bad about taking too long on a climb, and start taking couple hours per burn. I am sure I will lose some partners that way, but you just volunteered?

Next weekend of climbing together, I promise to stick clip up every bolt up Made in Shade. Tell me you would have gotten on Fuel Injector if it didn't have the draws hanging though, and I would call you a liar.

Btw, report from Ed says that Shaun sent 8ball first go, and Ed sent Trust in Jesus 3rd go, his first 11b.

you're more likely to lose partners being unpleasant than being slow on a route.

it doesn't take hours to stick clip aid a route. I didn't even take me hours to ghetto aid New Traditionalist!

and you're way the fuck stronger than I was last fall when I did all the moves on Made in the Shade. Why don't you just fucking try it?

Gee, you are back on hormone pills, or something? You've never struck me before as being unable to understand hyperbole.

No, it doesn't take hours to stick clip your way up a route, but it does take a fair bit of time. I do believe camhead was present the one time we were all waiting around for about 45 min for a girl to get up the Scar Tissue at the Red, and he was distinctly not amused by it. I do believe that working through the moves on Made in Shade will take about that long for me. It took you no less that that, when you tried it.

I didn't get on Made in Shade because i had one hour total to climb, when we walked it to Area 51. Matt was the first one to get on it, Paul was belaying, and Cat was taking pictures. I had no one to belay me, even if the route was open. I suppose I could have shouted, ME FIRST! But Matt didn't climb much in the morning, it was his turn to climb.

When Matt came down, Paul started climbing on his project, with Matt belaying. I have not met Cat until this weekend, and have not actually seen her belay anyone all weekend, even though mat obviously trusted her, I was not comfortable with her belaying me on a hard project, so I decided that I want to do something easy and quick, instead.

I believed that camhead was speaking from personal experience, when he told me that the Waco was a short fun juggy climb I would like. He neglected to mention that he has never been on it. I walked over there with my own draws, planning to climb it, and yes, hang the draws. Two other guys were on it by then, I knew them, they let me climb on their draws to clean the route. I did climb, I cleaned it, and I did not enjoy the route.

... I ask for entertainzment, and ewe have provided.

I know. But I won't be AB and run away when dribble starts hating on me, because i still love the sad boy, stress and all.

I think the last big family fight we had was jake vs GG?

I couldn't quite figure out that one. It was something about GG repeating the tired old joke about Rumney being a chosspile, and Jake hating on it? It didn't seem like that big a fight, I was surprised wiith how it ended.

In a nut shell, Jake's GF doesn't like me, and apparently I was mean.

And teh pegboard champ was even meaner, but Jake's ballcupping prevented him from directing his butthurt to chossy.

Short of that unrealistic hope, I would like to find someone who would actually be psyched to hang the draws for me with the right amount of support and encouragement. (Another unrealistic hope?) The draw-hanging joke is actually not fun anymore, I do seriously want to punch faces when I hear that, and since you, Shaun and Ed are particularly prone to it, your faces are in most danger.

Wait, now I'm comfrused. When you say "hang your draws," do you mean in the literal, or euphemistic sense? Because seriously, part of project climbing is just sussing out a route, and putting your own draws up via hang dogging, stickclipping, or whatever. Not by getting a stronger partner to do it, that will seriously limit your options.

My bad, I kind of thought that you would rather climb something that is a project for me, but relatively-easy one go climb for you, instead of belaying me for couple hours while I haul up the stick clip and suss out the moves. Duly noted. I will stop feeling bad about taking too long on a climb, and start taking couple hours per burn. I am sure I will lose some partners that way, but you just volunteered?

Next weekend of climbing together, I promise to stick clip up every bolt up Made in Shade. Tell me you would have gotten on Fuel Injector if it didn't have the draws hanging though, and I would call you a liar.

Btw, report from Ed says that Shaun sent 8ball first go, and Ed sent Trust in Jesus 3rd go, his first 11b.

you're more likely to lose partners being unpleasant than being slow on a route.

it doesn't take hours to stick clip aid a route. I didn't even take me hours to ghetto aid New Traditionalist!

and you're way the fuck stronger than I was last fall when I did all the moves on Made in the Shade. Why don't you just fucking try it?

Gee, you are back on hormone pills, or something? You've never struck me before as being unable to understand hyperbole.

No, it doesn't take hours to stick clip your way up a route, but it does take a fair bit of time. I do believe camhead was present the one time we were all waiting around for about 45 min for a girl to get up the Scar Tissue at the Red, and he was distinctly not amused by it. I do believe that working through the moves on Made in Shade will take about that long for me. It took you no less that that, when you tried it.

I didn't get on Made in Shade because i had one hour total to climb, when we walked it to Area 51. Matt was the first one to get on it, Paul was belaying, and Cat was taking pictures. I had no one to belay me, even if the route was open. I suppose I could have shouted, ME FIRST! But Matt didn't climb much in the morning, it was his turn to climb.

When Matt came down, Paul started climbing on his project, with Matt belaying. I have not met Cat until this weekend, and have not actually seen her belay anyone all weekend, even though mat obviously trusted her, I was not comfortable with her belaying me on a hard project, so I decided that I want to do something easy and quick, instead.

I believed that camhead was speaking from personal experience, when he told me that the Waco was a short fun juggy climb I would like. He neglected to mention that he has never been on it. I walked over there with my own draws, planning to climb it, and yes, hang the draws. Two other guys were on it by then, I knew them, they let me climb on their draws to clean the route. I did climb, I cleaned it, and I did not enjoy the route.

... I ask for entertainzment, and ewe have provided.

I know. But I won't be AB and run away when dribble starts hating on me, because i still love the sad boy, stress and all.

I think the last big family fight we had was jake vs GG?

I couldn't quite figure out that one. It was something about GG repeating the tired old joke about Rumney being a chosspile, and Jake hating on it? It didn't seem like that big a fight, I was surprised wiith how it ended.

In a nut shell, Jake's GF doesn't like me, and apparently I was mean.

shit. forgot to mention teh grape issue.

GG doesn't like to share her grapes? Or did she eat Jake's grapes? That is really mean!

Short of that unrealistic hope, I would like to find someone who would actually be psyched to hang the draws for me with the right amount of support and encouragement. (Another unrealistic hope?) The draw-hanging joke is actually not fun anymore, I do seriously want to punch faces when I hear that, and since you, Shaun and Ed are particularly prone to it, your faces are in most danger.

Wait, now I'm comfrused. When you say "hang your draws," do you mean in the literal, or euphemistic sense? Because seriously, part of project climbing is just sussing out a route, and putting your own draws up via hang dogging, stickclipping, or whatever. Not by getting a stronger partner to do it, that will seriously limit your options.

My bad, I kind of thought that you would rather climb something that is a project for me, but relatively-easy one go climb for you, instead of belaying me for couple hours while I haul up the stick clip and suss out the moves. Duly noted. I will stop feeling bad about taking too long on a climb, and start taking couple hours per burn. I am sure I will lose some partners that way, but you just volunteered?

Next weekend of climbing together, I promise to stick clip up every bolt up Made in Shade. Tell me you would have gotten on Fuel Injector if it didn't have the draws hanging though, and I would call you a liar.

Btw, report from Ed says that Shaun sent 8ball first go, and Ed sent Trust in Jesus 3rd go, his first 11b.

you're more likely to lose partners being unpleasant than being slow on a route.

it doesn't take hours to stick clip aid a route. I didn't even take me hours to ghetto aid New Traditionalist!

and you're way the fuck stronger than I was last fall when I did all the moves on Made in the Shade. Why don't you just fucking try it?

Gee, you are back on hormone pills, or something? You've never struck me before as being unable to understand hyperbole.

No, it doesn't take hours to stick clip your way up a route, but it does take a fair bit of time. I do believe camhead was present the one time we were all waiting around for about 45 min for a girl to get up the Scar Tissue at the Red, and he was distinctly not amused by it. I do believe that working through the moves on Made in Shade will take about that long for me. It took you no less that that, when you tried it.

I didn't get on Made in Shade because i had one hour total to climb, when we walked it to Area 51. Matt was the first one to get on it, Paul was belaying, and Cat was taking pictures. I had no one to belay me, even if the route was open. I suppose I could have shouted, ME FIRST! But Matt didn't climb much in the morning, it was his turn to climb.

When Matt came down, Paul started climbing on his project, with Matt belaying. I have not met Cat until this weekend, and have not actually seen her belay anyone all weekend, even though mat obviously trusted her, I was not comfortable with her belaying me on a hard project, so I decided that I want to do something easy and quick, instead.

I believed that camhead was speaking from personal experience, when he told me that the Waco was a short fun juggy climb I would like. He neglected to mention that he has never been on it. I walked over there with my own draws, planning to climb it, and yes, hang the draws. Two other guys were on it by then, I knew them, they let me climb on their draws to clean the route. I did climb, I cleaned it, and I did not enjoy the route.

... I ask for entertainzment, and ewe have provided.

I know. But I won't be AB and run away when dribble starts hating on me, because i still love the sad boy, stress and all.

Short of that unrealistic hope, I would like to find someone who would actually be psyched to hang the draws for me with the right amount of support and encouragement. (Another unrealistic hope?) The draw-hanging joke is actually not fun anymore, I do seriously want to punch faces when I hear that, and since you, Shaun and Ed are particularly prone to it, your faces are in most danger.

Wait, now I'm comfrused. When you say "hang your draws," do you mean in the literal, or euphemistic sense? Because seriously, part of project climbing is just sussing out a route, and putting your own draws up via hang dogging, stickclipping, or whatever. Not by getting a stronger partner to do it, that will seriously limit your options.

My bad, I kind of thought that you would rather climb something that is a project for me, but relatively-easy one go climb for you, instead of belaying me for couple hours while I haul up the stick clip and suss out the moves. Duly noted. I will stop feeling bad about taking too long on a climb, and start taking couple hours per burn. I am sure I will lose some partners that way, but you just volunteered?

Next weekend of climbing together, I promise to stick clip up every bolt up Made in Shade. Tell me you would have gotten on Fuel Injector if it didn't have the draws hanging though, and I would call you a liar.

Btw, report from Ed says that Shaun sent 8ball first go, and Ed sent Trust in Jesus 3rd go, his first 11b.

you're more likely to lose partners being unpleasant than being slow on a route.

it doesn't take hours to stick clip aid a route. I didn't even take me hours to ghetto aid New Traditionalist!

and you're way the fuck stronger than I was last fall when I did all the moves on Made in the Shade. Why don't you just fucking try it?

Gee, you are back on hormone pills, or something? You've never struck me before as being unable to understand hyperbole.

No, it doesn't take hours to stick clip your way up a route, but it does take a fair bit of time. I do believe camhead was present the one time we were all waiting around for about 45 min for a girl to get up the Scar Tissue at the Red, and he was distinctly not amused by it. I do believe that working through the moves on Made in Shade will take about that long for me. It took you no less that that, when you tried it.

I didn't get on Made in Shade because i had one hour total to climb, when we walked it to Area 51. Matt was the first one to get on it, Paul was belaying, and Cat was taking pictures. I had no one to belay me, even if the route was open. I suppose I could have shouted, ME FIRST! But Matt didn't climb much in the morning, it was his turn to climb.

When Matt came down, Paul started climbing on his project, with Matt belaying. I have not met Cat until this weekend, and have not actually seen her belay anyone all weekend, even though mat obviously trusted her, I was not comfortable with her belaying me on a hard project, so I decided that I want to do something easy and quick, instead.

I believed that camhead was speaking from personal experience, when he told me that the Waco was a short fun juggy climb I would like. He neglected to mention that he has never been on it. I walked over there with my own draws, planning to climb it, and yes, hang the draws. Two other guys were on it by then, I knew them, they let me climb on their draws to clean the route. I did climb, I cleaned it, and I did not enjoy the route.

... I ask for entertainzment, and ewe have provided.

I know. But I won't be AB and run away when dribble starts hating on me, because i still love the sad boy, stress and all.

I think the last big family fight we had was jake vs GG?

I couldn't quite figure out that one. It was something about GG repeating the tired old joke about Rumney being a chosspile, and Jake hating on it? It didn't seem like that big a fight, I was surprised wiith how it ended.

throw in some quick temper, sensitivity about the fact that rumney really is a ledgy bouldering area with a few bolts per boulder problem, and a bit of past issues ...

Short of that unrealistic hope, I would like to find someone who would actually be psyched to hang the draws for me with the right amount of support and encouragement. (Another unrealistic hope?) The draw-hanging joke is actually not fun anymore, I do seriously want to punch faces when I hear that, and since you, Shaun and Ed are particularly prone to it, your faces are in most danger.

Wait, now I'm comfrused. When you say "hang your draws," do you mean in the literal, or euphemistic sense? Because seriously, part of project climbing is just sussing out a route, and putting your own draws up via hang dogging, stickclipping, or whatever. Not by getting a stronger partner to do it, that will seriously limit your options.

My bad, I kind of thought that you would rather climb something that is a project for me, but relatively-easy one go climb for you, instead of belaying me for couple hours while I haul up the stick clip and suss out the moves. Duly noted. I will stop feeling bad about taking too long on a climb, and start taking couple hours per burn. I am sure I will lose some partners that way, but you just volunteered?

Next weekend of climbing together, I promise to stick clip up every bolt up Made in Shade. Tell me you would have gotten on Fuel Injector if it didn't have the draws hanging though, and I would call you a liar.

Btw, report from Ed says that Shaun sent 8ball first go, and Ed sent Trust in Jesus 3rd go, his first 11b.

you're more likely to lose partners being unpleasant than being slow on a route.

it doesn't take hours to stick clip aid a route. I didn't even take me hours to ghetto aid New Traditionalist!

and you're way the fuck stronger than I was last fall when I did all the moves on Made in the Shade. Why don't you just fucking try it?

Gee, you are back on hormone pills, or something? You've never struck me before as being unable to understand hyperbole.

No, it doesn't take hours to stick clip your way up a route, but it does take a fair bit of time. I do believe camhead was present the one time we were all waiting around for about 45 min for a girl to get up the Scar Tissue at the Red, and he was distinctly not amused by it. I do believe that working through the moves on Made in Shade will take about that long for me. It took you no less that that, when you tried it.

I didn't get on Made in Shade because i had one hour total to climb, when we walked it to Area 51. Matt was the first one to get on it, Paul was belaying, and Cat was taking pictures. I had no one to belay me, even if the route was open. I suppose I could have shouted, ME FIRST! But Matt didn't climb much in the morning, it was his turn to climb.

When Matt came down, Paul started climbing on his project, with Matt belaying. I have not met Cat until this weekend, and have not actually seen her belay anyone all weekend, even though mat obviously trusted her, I was not comfortable with her belaying me on a hard project, so I decided that I want to do something easy and quick, instead.

I believed that camhead was speaking from personal experience, when he told me that the Waco was a short fun juggy climb I would like. He neglected to mention that he has never been on it. I walked over there with my own draws, planning to climb it, and yes, hang the draws. Two other guys were on it by then, I knew them, they let me climb on their draws to clean the route. I did climb, I cleaned it, and I did not enjoy the route.

... I ask for entertainzment, and ewe have provided.

I know. But I won't be AB and run away when dribble starts hating on me, because i still love the sad boy, stress and all.

I think the last big family fight we had was jake vs GG?

I couldn't quite figure out that one. It was something about GG repeating the tired old joke about Rumney being a chosspile, and Jake hating on it? It didn't seem like that big a fight, I was surprised wiith how it ended.

In a nut shell, Jake's GF doesn't like me, and apparently I was mean.

And teh pegboard champ was even meaner, but Jake's ballcupping prevented him from directing his butthurt to chossy.

Nathan will tear you to pieces if he feels like it. He's a sweet thoughtful guy most of the time, but when he's mean, he's fucking mean. Jake decided to go after an easier target.

Short of that unrealistic hope, I would like to find someone who would actually be psyched to hang the draws for me with the right amount of support and encouragement. (Another unrealistic hope?) The draw-hanging joke is actually not fun anymore, I do seriously want to punch faces when I hear that, and since you, Shaun and Ed are particularly prone to it, your faces are in most danger.

Wait, now I'm comfrused. When you say "hang your draws," do you mean in the literal, or euphemistic sense? Because seriously, part of project climbing is just sussing out a route, and putting your own draws up via hang dogging, stickclipping, or whatever. Not by getting a stronger partner to do it, that will seriously limit your options.

My bad, I kind of thought that you would rather climb something that is a project for me, but relatively-easy one go climb for you, instead of belaying me for couple hours while I haul up the stick clip and suss out the moves. Duly noted. I will stop feeling bad about taking too long on a climb, and start taking couple hours per burn. I am sure I will lose some partners that way, but you just volunteered?

Next weekend of climbing together, I promise to stick clip up every bolt up Made in Shade. Tell me you would have gotten on Fuel Injector if it didn't have the draws hanging though, and I would call you a liar.

Btw, report from Ed says that Shaun sent 8ball first go, and Ed sent Trust in Jesus 3rd go, his first 11b.

you're more likely to lose partners being unpleasant than being slow on a route.

it doesn't take hours to stick clip aid a route. I didn't even take me hours to ghetto aid New Traditionalist!

and you're way the fuck stronger than I was last fall when I did all the moves on Made in the Shade. Why don't you just fucking try it?

Gee, you are back on hormone pills, or something? You've never struck me before as being unable to understand hyperbole.

No, it doesn't take hours to stick clip your way up a route, but it does take a fair bit of time. I do believe camhead was present the one time we were all waiting around for about 45 min for a girl to get up the Scar Tissue at the Red, and he was distinctly not amused by it. I do believe that working through the moves on Made in Shade will take about that long for me. It took you no less that that, when you tried it.

I didn't get on Made in Shade because i had one hour total to climb, when we walked it to Area 51. Matt was the first one to get on it, Paul was belaying, and Cat was taking pictures. I had no one to belay me, even if the route was open. I suppose I could have shouted, ME FIRST! But Matt didn't climb much in the morning, it was his turn to climb.

When Matt came down, Paul started climbing on his project, with Matt belaying. I have not met Cat until this weekend, and have not actually seen her belay anyone all weekend, even though mat obviously trusted her, I was not comfortable with her belaying me on a hard project, so I decided that I want to do something easy and quick, instead.

I believed that camhead was speaking from personal experience, when he told me that the Waco was a short fun juggy climb I would like. He neglected to mention that he has never been on it. I walked over there with my own draws, planning to climb it, and yes, hang the draws. Two other guys were on it by then, I knew them, they let me climb on their draws to clean the route. I did climb, I cleaned it, and I did not enjoy the route.

the hormone comment is low, even for how mean you've been lately.

please note that I personally wasn't being hyperbolic at all when I said you'd lose more partners by being unpleasant to be around than you will by any amount of being slow.

Short of that unrealistic hope, I would like to find someone who would actually be psyched to hang the draws for me with the right amount of support and encouragement. (Another unrealistic hope?) The draw-hanging joke is actually not fun anymore, I do seriously want to punch faces when I hear that, and since you, Shaun and Ed are particularly prone to it, your faces are in most danger.

Wait, now I'm comfrused. When you say "hang your draws," do you mean in the literal, or euphemistic sense? Because seriously, part of project climbing is just sussing out a route, and putting your own draws up via hang dogging, stickclipping, or whatever. Not by getting a stronger partner to do it, that will seriously limit your options.

My bad, I kind of thought that you would rather climb something that is a project for me, but relatively-easy one go climb for you, instead of belaying me for couple hours while I haul up the stick clip and suss out the moves. Duly noted. I will stop feeling bad about taking too long on a climb, and start taking couple hours per burn. I am sure I will lose some partners that way, but you just volunteered?

Next weekend of climbing together, I promise to stick clip up every bolt up Made in Shade. Tell me you would have gotten on Fuel Injector if it didn't have the draws hanging though, and I would call you a liar.

Btw, report from Ed says that Shaun sent 8ball first go, and Ed sent Trust in Jesus 3rd go, his first 11b.

you're more likely to lose partners being unpleasant than being slow on a route.

it doesn't take hours to stick clip aid a route. I didn't even take me hours to ghetto aid New Traditionalist!

and you're way the fuck stronger than I was last fall when I did all the moves on Made in the Shade. Why don't you just fucking try it?

Gee, you are back on hormone pills, or something? You've never struck me before as being unable to understand hyperbole.

No, it doesn't take hours to stick clip your way up a route, but it does take a fair bit of time. I do believe camhead was present the one time we were all waiting around for about 45 min for a girl to get up the Scar Tissue at the Red, and he was distinctly not amused by it. I do believe that working through the moves on Made in Shade will take about that long for me. It took you no less that that, when you tried it.

I didn't get on Made in Shade because i had one hour total to climb, when we walked it to Area 51. Matt was the first one to get on it, Paul was belaying, and Cat was taking pictures. I had no one to belay me, even if the route was open. I suppose I could have shouted, ME FIRST! But Matt didn't climb much in the morning, it was his turn to climb.

When Matt came down, Paul started climbing on his project, with Matt belaying. I have not met Cat until this weekend, and have not actually seen her belay anyone all weekend, even though mat obviously trusted her, I was not comfortable with her belaying me on a hard project, so I decided that I want to do something easy and quick, instead.

I believed that camhead was speaking from personal experience, when he told me that the Waco was a short fun juggy climb I would like. He neglected to mention that he has never been on it. I walked over there with my own draws, planning to climb it, and yes, hang the draws. Two other guys were on it by then, I knew them, they let me climb on their draws to clean the route. I did climb, I cleaned it, and I did not enjoy the route.

the hormone comment is low, even for how mean you've been lately.

please note that I personally wasn't being hyperbolic at all when I said you'd lose more partners by being unpleasant to be around than you will by any amount of being slow.

Short of that unrealistic hope, I would like to find someone who would actually be psyched to hang the draws for me with the right amount of support and encouragement. (Another unrealistic hope?) The draw-hanging joke is actually not fun anymore, I do seriously want to punch faces when I hear that, and since you, Shaun and Ed are particularly prone to it, your faces are in most danger.

Wait, now I'm comfrused. When you say "hang your draws," do you mean in the literal, or euphemistic sense? Because seriously, part of project climbing is just sussing out a route, and putting your own draws up via hang dogging, stickclipping, or whatever. Not by getting a stronger partner to do it, that will seriously limit your options.

My bad, I kind of thought that you would rather climb something that is a project for me, but relatively-easy one go climb for you, instead of belaying me for couple hours while I haul up the stick clip and suss out the moves. Duly noted. I will stop feeling bad about taking too long on a climb, and start taking couple hours per burn. I am sure I will lose some partners that way, but you just volunteered?

Next weekend of climbing together, I promise to stick clip up every bolt up Made in Shade. Tell me you would have gotten on Fuel Injector if it didn't have the draws hanging though, and I would call you a liar.

Btw, report from Ed says that Shaun sent 8ball first go, and Ed sent Trust in Jesus 3rd go, his first 11b.

you're more likely to lose partners being unpleasant than being slow on a route.

it doesn't take hours to stick clip aid a route. I didn't even take me hours to ghetto aid New Traditionalist!

and you're way the fuck stronger than I was last fall when I did all the moves on Made in the Shade. Why don't you just fucking try it?

Gee, you are back on hormone pills, or something? You've never struck me before as being unable to understand hyperbole.

No, it doesn't take hours to stick clip your way up a route, but it does take a fair bit of time. I do believe camhead was present the one time we were all waiting around for about 45 min for a girl to get up the Scar Tissue at the Red, and he was distinctly not amused by it. I do believe that working through the moves on Made in Shade will take about that long for me. It took you no less that that, when you tried it.

I didn't get on Made in Shade because i had one hour total to climb, when we walked it to Area 51. Matt was the first one to get on it, Paul was belaying, and Cat was taking pictures. I had no one to belay me, even if the route was open. I suppose I could have shouted, ME FIRST! But Matt didn't climb much in the morning, it was his turn to climb.

When Matt came down, Paul started climbing on his project, with Matt belaying. I have not met Cat until this weekend, and have not actually seen her belay anyone all weekend, even though mat obviously trusted her, I was not comfortable with her belaying me on a hard project, so I decided that I want to do something easy and quick, instead.

I believed that camhead was speaking from personal experience, when he told me that the Waco was a short fun juggy climb I would like. He neglected to mention that he has never been on it. I walked over there with my own draws, planning to climb it, and yes, hang the draws. Two other guys were on it by then, I knew them, they let me climb on their draws to clean the route. I did climb, I cleaned it, and I did not enjoy the route.

the hormone comment is low, even for how mean you've been lately.

please note that I personally wasn't being hyperbolic at all when I said you'd lose more partners by being unpleasant to be around than you will by any amount of being slow.

Short of that unrealistic hope, I would like to find someone who would actually be psyched to hang the draws for me with the right amount of support and encouragement. (Another unrealistic hope?) The draw-hanging joke is actually not fun anymore, I do seriously want to punch faces when I hear that, and since you, Shaun and Ed are particularly prone to it, your faces are in most danger.

Wait, now I'm comfrused. When you say "hang your draws," do you mean in the literal, or euphemistic sense? Because seriously, part of project climbing is just sussing out a route, and putting your own draws up via hang dogging, stickclipping, or whatever. Not by getting a stronger partner to do it, that will seriously limit your options.

My bad, I kind of thought that you would rather climb something that is a project for me, but relatively-easy one go climb for you, instead of belaying me for couple hours while I haul up the stick clip and suss out the moves. Duly noted. I will stop feeling bad about taking too long on a climb, and start taking couple hours per burn. I am sure I will lose some partners that way, but you just volunteered?

Next weekend of climbing together, I promise to stick clip up every bolt up Made in Shade. Tell me you would have gotten on Fuel Injector if it didn't have the draws hanging though, and I would call you a liar.

Btw, report from Ed says that Shaun sent 8ball first go, and Ed sent Trust in Jesus 3rd go, his first 11b.

you're more likely to lose partners being unpleasant than being slow on a route.

it doesn't take hours to stick clip aid a route. I didn't even take me hours to ghetto aid New Traditionalist!

and you're way the fuck stronger than I was last fall when I did all the moves on Made in the Shade. Why don't you just fucking try it?

Gee, you are back on hormone pills, or something? You've never struck me before as being unable to understand hyperbole.

No, it doesn't take hours to stick clip your way up a route, but it does take a fair bit of time. I do believe camhead was present the one time we were all waiting around for about 45 min for a girl to get up the Scar Tissue at the Red, and he was distinctly not amused by it. I do believe that working through the moves on Made in Shade will take about that long for me. It took you no less that that, when you tried it.

I didn't get on Made in Shade because i had one hour total to climb, when we walked it to Area 51. Matt was the first one to get on it, Paul was belaying, and Cat was taking pictures. I had no one to belay me, even if the route was open. I suppose I could have shouted, ME FIRST! But Matt didn't climb much in the morning, it was his turn to climb.

When Matt came down, Paul started climbing on his project, with Matt belaying. I have not met Cat until this weekend, and have not actually seen her belay anyone all weekend, even though mat obviously trusted her, I was not comfortable with her belaying me on a hard project, so I decided that I want to do something easy and quick, instead.

I believed that camhead was speaking from personal experience, when he told me that the Waco was a short fun juggy climb I would like. He neglected to mention that he has never been on it. I walked over there with my own draws, planning to climb it, and yes, hang the draws. Two other guys were on it by then, I knew them, they let me climb on their draws to clean the route. I did climb, I cleaned it, and I did not enjoy the route.

the hormone comment is low, even for how mean you've been lately.

please note that I personally wasn't being hyperbolic at all when I said you'd lose more partners by being unpleasant to be around than you will by any amount of being slow.

Short of that unrealistic hope, I would like to find someone who would actually be psyched to hang the draws for me with the right amount of support and encouragement. (Another unrealistic hope?) The draw-hanging joke is actually not fun anymore, I do seriously want to punch faces when I hear that, and since you, Shaun and Ed are particularly prone to it, your faces are in most danger.

Wait, now I'm comfrused. When you say "hang your draws," do you mean in the literal, or euphemistic sense? Because seriously, part of project climbing is just sussing out a route, and putting your own draws up via hang dogging, stickclipping, or whatever. Not by getting a stronger partner to do it, that will seriously limit your options.

My bad, I kind of thought that you would rather climb something that is a project for me, but relatively-easy one go climb for you, instead of belaying me for couple hours while I haul up the stick clip and suss out the moves. Duly noted. I will stop feeling bad about taking too long on a climb, and start taking couple hours per burn. I am sure I will lose some partners that way, but you just volunteered?

Next weekend of climbing together, I promise to stick clip up every bolt up Made in Shade. Tell me you would have gotten on Fuel Injector if it didn't have the draws hanging though, and I would call you a liar.

Btw, report from Ed says that Shaun sent 8ball first go, and Ed sent Trust in Jesus 3rd go, his first 11b.

you're more likely to lose partners being unpleasant than being slow on a route.

it doesn't take hours to stick clip aid a route. I didn't even take me hours to ghetto aid New Traditionalist!

and you're way the fuck stronger than I was last fall when I did all the moves on Made in the Shade. Why don't you just fucking try it?

Gee, you are back on hormone pills, or something? You've never struck me before as being unable to understand hyperbole.

No, it doesn't take hours to stick clip your way up a route, but it does take a fair bit of time. I do believe camhead was present the one time we were all waiting around for about 45 min for a girl to get up the Scar Tissue at the Red, and he was distinctly not amused by it. I do believe that working through the moves on Made in Shade will take about that long for me. It took you no less that that, when you tried it.

I didn't get on Made in Shade because i had one hour total to climb, when we walked it to Area 51. Matt was the first one to get on it, Paul was belaying, and Cat was taking pictures. I had no one to belay me, even if the route was open. I suppose I could have shouted, ME FIRST! But Matt didn't climb much in the morning, it was his turn to climb.

When Matt came down, Paul started climbing on his project, with Matt belaying. I have not met Cat until this weekend, and have not actually seen her belay anyone all weekend, even though mat obviously trusted her, I was not comfortable with her belaying me on a hard project, so I decided that I want to do something easy and quick, instead.

I believed that camhead was speaking from personal experience, when he told me that the Waco was a short fun juggy climb I would like. He neglected to mention that he has never been on it. I walked over there with my own draws, planning to climb it, and yes, hang the draws. Two other guys were on it by then, I knew them, they let me climb on their draws to clean the route. I did climb, I cleaned it, and I did not enjoy the route.

the hormone comment is low, even for how mean you've been lately.

please note that I personally wasn't being hyperbolic at all when I said you'd lose more partners by being unpleasant to be around than you will by any amount of being slow.

Dont be snippy!

don't worry, we're talking about it not in public like grownups.

i mean, I know that's not allowed

I mean, fuck you guys!

::pulls hard turnaround, squeels out of lepe parking lot::

Shit, that's what I was supposed to do? It is really hard to do a hard turnaround out of the Area 51 "parking lot" It is more of a multiple-Y turn.

Short of that unrealistic hope, I would like to find someone who would actually be psyched to hang the draws for me with the right amount of support and encouragement. (Another unrealistic hope?) The draw-hanging joke is actually not fun anymore, I do seriously want to punch faces when I hear that, and since you, Shaun and Ed are particularly prone to it, your faces are in most danger.

Wait, now I'm comfrused. When you say "hang your draws," do you mean in the literal, or euphemistic sense? Because seriously, part of project climbing is just sussing out a route, and putting your own draws up via hang dogging, stickclipping, or whatever. Not by getting a stronger partner to do it, that will seriously limit your options.

My bad, I kind of thought that you would rather climb something that is a project for me, but relatively-easy one go climb for you, instead of belaying me for couple hours while I haul up the stick clip and suss out the moves. Duly noted. I will stop feeling bad about taking too long on a climb, and start taking couple hours per burn. I am sure I will lose some partners that way, but you just volunteered?

Next weekend of climbing together, I promise to stick clip up every bolt up Made in Shade. Tell me you would have gotten on Fuel Injector if it didn't have the draws hanging though, and I would call you a liar.

Btw, report from Ed says that Shaun sent 8ball first go, and Ed sent Trust in Jesus 3rd go, his first 11b.

you're more likely to lose partners being unpleasant than being slow on a route.

it doesn't take hours to stick clip aid a route. I didn't even take me hours to ghetto aid New Traditionalist!

and you're way the fuck stronger than I was last fall when I did all the moves on Made in the Shade. Why don't you just fucking try it?

Gee, you are back on hormone pills, or something? You've never struck me before as being unable to understand hyperbole.

No, it doesn't take hours to stick clip your way up a route, but it does take a fair bit of time. I do believe camhead was present the one time we were all waiting around for about 45 min for a girl to get up the Scar Tissue at the Red, and he was distinctly not amused by it. I do believe that working through the moves on Made in Shade will take about that long for me. It took you no less that that, when you tried it.

I didn't get on Made in Shade because i had one hour total to climb, when we walked it to Area 51. Matt was the first one to get on it, Paul was belaying, and Cat was taking pictures. I had no one to belay me, even if the route was open. I suppose I could have shouted, ME FIRST! But Matt didn't climb much in the morning, it was his turn to climb.

When Matt came down, Paul started climbing on his project, with Matt belaying. I have not met Cat until this weekend, and have not actually seen her belay anyone all weekend, even though mat obviously trusted her, I was not comfortable with her belaying me on a hard project, so I decided that I want to do something easy and quick, instead.

I believed that camhead was speaking from personal experience, when he told me that the Waco was a short fun juggy climb I would like. He neglected to mention that he has never been on it. I walked over there with my own draws, planning to climb it, and yes, hang the draws. Two other guys were on it by then, I knew them, they let me climb on their draws to clean the route. I did climb, I cleaned it, and I did not enjoy the route.

the hormone comment is low, even for how mean you've been lately.

please note that I personally wasn't being hyperbolic at all when I said you'd lose more partners by being unpleasant to be around than you will by any amount of being slow.

Dont be snippy!

don't worry, we're talking about it not in public like grownups.

i mean, I know that's not allowed

Wait, what is this "not in public" of which you speak? Is there a google group where we can get transcirpts of the emails?

Short of that unrealistic hope, I would like to find someone who would actually be psyched to hang the draws for me with the right amount of support and encouragement. (Another unrealistic hope?) The draw-hanging joke is actually not fun anymore, I do seriously want to punch faces when I hear that, and since you, Shaun and Ed are particularly prone to it, your faces are in most danger.

Wait, now I'm comfrused. When you say "hang your draws," do you mean in the literal, or euphemistic sense? Because seriously, part of project climbing is just sussing out a route, and putting your own draws up via hang dogging, stickclipping, or whatever. Not by getting a stronger partner to do it, that will seriously limit your options.

My bad, I kind of thought that you would rather climb something that is a project for me, but relatively-easy one go climb for you, instead of belaying me for couple hours while I haul up the stick clip and suss out the moves. Duly noted. I will stop feeling bad about taking too long on a climb, and start taking couple hours per burn. I am sure I will lose some partners that way, but you just volunteered?

Next weekend of climbing together, I promise to stick clip up every bolt up Made in Shade. Tell me you would have gotten on Fuel Injector if it didn't have the draws hanging though, and I would call you a liar.

Btw, report from Ed says that Shaun sent 8ball first go, and Ed sent Trust in Jesus 3rd go, his first 11b.

you're more likely to lose partners being unpleasant than being slow on a route.

it doesn't take hours to stick clip aid a route. I didn't even take me hours to ghetto aid New Traditionalist!

and you're way the fuck stronger than I was last fall when I did all the moves on Made in the Shade. Why don't you just fucking try it?

Gee, you are back on hormone pills, or something? You've never struck me before as being unable to understand hyperbole.

No, it doesn't take hours to stick clip your way up a route, but it does take a fair bit of time. I do believe camhead was present the one time we were all waiting around for about 45 min for a girl to get up the Scar Tissue at the Red, and he was distinctly not amused by it. I do believe that working through the moves on Made in Shade will take about that long for me. It took you no less that that, when you tried it.

I didn't get on Made in Shade because i had one hour total to climb, when we walked it to Area 51. Matt was the first one to get on it, Paul was belaying, and Cat was taking pictures. I had no one to belay me, even if the route was open. I suppose I could have shouted, ME FIRST! But Matt didn't climb much in the morning, it was his turn to climb.

When Matt came down, Paul started climbing on his project, with Matt belaying. I have not met Cat until this weekend, and have not actually seen her belay anyone all weekend, even though mat obviously trusted her, I was not comfortable with her belaying me on a hard project, so I decided that I want to do something easy and quick, instead.

I believed that camhead was speaking from personal experience, when he told me that the Waco was a short fun juggy climb I would like. He neglected to mention that he has never been on it. I walked over there with my own draws, planning to climb it, and yes, hang the draws. Two other guys were on it by then, I knew them, they let me climb on their draws to clean the route. I did climb, I cleaned it, and I did not enjoy the route.

the hormone comment is low, even for how mean you've been lately.

please note that I personally wasn't being hyperbolic at all when I said you'd lose more partners by being unpleasant to be around than you will by any amount of being slow.

Short of that unrealistic hope, I would like to find someone who would actually be psyched to hang the draws for me with the right amount of support and encouragement. (Another unrealistic hope?) The draw-hanging joke is actually not fun anymore, I do seriously want to punch faces when I hear that, and since you, Shaun and Ed are particularly prone to it, your faces are in most danger.

Wait, now I'm comfrused. When you say "hang your draws," do you mean in the literal, or euphemistic sense? Because seriously, part of project climbing is just sussing out a route, and putting your own draws up via hang dogging, stickclipping, or whatever. Not by getting a stronger partner to do it, that will seriously limit your options.

My bad, I kind of thought that you would rather climb something that is a project for me, but relatively-easy one go climb for you, instead of belaying me for couple hours while I haul up the stick clip and suss out the moves. Duly noted. I will stop feeling bad about taking too long on a climb, and start taking couple hours per burn. I am sure I will lose some partners that way, but you just volunteered?

Next weekend of climbing together, I promise to stick clip up every bolt up Made in Shade. Tell me you would have gotten on Fuel Injector if it didn't have the draws hanging though, and I would call you a liar.

Btw, report from Ed says that Shaun sent 8ball first go, and Ed sent Trust in Jesus 3rd go, his first 11b.

you're more likely to lose partners being unpleasant than being slow on a route.

it doesn't take hours to stick clip aid a route. I didn't even take me hours to ghetto aid New Traditionalist!

and you're way the fuck stronger than I was last fall when I did all the moves on Made in the Shade. Why don't you just fucking try it?

Gee, you are back on hormone pills, or something? You've never struck me before as being unable to understand hyperbole.

No, it doesn't take hours to stick clip your way up a route, but it does take a fair bit of time. I do believe camhead was present the one time we were all waiting around for about 45 min for a girl to get up the Scar Tissue at the Red, and he was distinctly not amused by it. I do believe that working through the moves on Made in Shade will take about that long for me. It took you no less that that, when you tried it.

I didn't get on Made in Shade because i had one hour total to climb, when we walked it to Area 51. Matt was the first one to get on it, Paul was belaying, and Cat was taking pictures. I had no one to belay me, even if the route was open. I suppose I could have shouted, ME FIRST! But Matt didn't climb much in the morning, it was his turn to climb.

When Matt came down, Paul started climbing on his project, with Matt belaying. I have not met Cat until this weekend, and have not actually seen her belay anyone all weekend, even though mat obviously trusted her, I was not comfortable with her belaying me on a hard project, so I decided that I want to do something easy and quick, instead.

I believed that camhead was speaking from personal experience, when he told me that the Waco was a short fun juggy climb I would like. He neglected to mention that he has never been on it. I walked over there with my own draws, planning to climb it, and yes, hang the draws. Two other guys were on it by then, I knew them, they let me climb on their draws to clean the route. I did climb, I cleaned it, and I did not enjoy the route.

the hormone comment is low, even for how mean you've been lately.

please note that I personally wasn't being hyperbolic at all when I said you'd lose more partners by being unpleasant to be around than you will by any amount of being slow.

Dont be snippy!

don't worry, we're talking about it not in public like grownups.

i mean, I know that's not allowed

Wait, what is this "not in public" of which you speak? Is there a google group where we can get transcirpts of the emails?

It's like hangbored talk, only it is longer, and you don't get stronger at the end.

Short of that unrealistic hope, I would like to find someone who would actually be psyched to hang the draws for me with the right amount of support and encouragement. (Another unrealistic hope?) The draw-hanging joke is actually not fun anymore, I do seriously want to punch faces when I hear that, and since you, Shaun and Ed are particularly prone to it, your faces are in most danger.

Wait, now I'm comfrused. When you say "hang your draws," do you mean in the literal, or euphemistic sense? Because seriously, part of project climbing is just sussing out a route, and putting your own draws up via hang dogging, stickclipping, or whatever. Not by getting a stronger partner to do it, that will seriously limit your options.

My bad, I kind of thought that you would rather climb something that is a project for me, but relatively-easy one go climb for you, instead of belaying me for couple hours while I haul up the stick clip and suss out the moves. Duly noted. I will stop feeling bad about taking too long on a climb, and start taking couple hours per burn. I am sure I will lose some partners that way, but you just volunteered?

Next weekend of climbing together, I promise to stick clip up every bolt up Made in Shade. Tell me you would have gotten on Fuel Injector if it didn't have the draws hanging though, and I would call you a liar.

Btw, report from Ed says that Shaun sent 8ball first go, and Ed sent Trust in Jesus 3rd go, his first 11b.

you're more likely to lose partners being unpleasant than being slow on a route.

it doesn't take hours to stick clip aid a route. I didn't even take me hours to ghetto aid New Traditionalist!

and you're way the fuck stronger than I was last fall when I did all the moves on Made in the Shade. Why don't you just fucking try it?

Gee, you are back on hormone pills, or something? You've never struck me before as being unable to understand hyperbole.

No, it doesn't take hours to stick clip your way up a route, but it does take a fair bit of time. I do believe camhead was present the one time we were all waiting around for about 45 min for a girl to get up the Scar Tissue at the Red, and he was distinctly not amused by it. I do believe that working through the moves on Made in Shade will take about that long for me. It took you no less that that, when you tried it.

I didn't get on Made in Shade because i had one hour total to climb, when we walked it to Area 51. Matt was the first one to get on it, Paul was belaying, and Cat was taking pictures. I had no one to belay me, even if the route was open. I suppose I could have shouted, ME FIRST! But Matt didn't climb much in the morning, it was his turn to climb.

When Matt came down, Paul started climbing on his project, with Matt belaying. I have not met Cat until this weekend, and have not actually seen her belay anyone all weekend, even though mat obviously trusted her, I was not comfortable with her belaying me on a hard project, so I decided that I want to do something easy and quick, instead.

I believed that camhead was speaking from personal experience, when he told me that the Waco was a short fun juggy climb I would like. He neglected to mention that he has never been on it. I walked over there with my own draws, planning to climb it, and yes, hang the draws. Two other guys were on it by then, I knew them, they let me climb on their draws to clean the route. I did climb, I cleaned it, and I did not enjoy the route.

the hormone comment is low, even for how mean you've been lately.

please note that I personally wasn't being hyperbolic at all when I said you'd lose more partners by being unpleasant to be around than you will by any amount of being slow.

Dont be snippy!

don't worry, we're talking about it not in public like grownups.

i mean, I know that's not allowed

Wait, what is this "not in public" of which you speak? Is there a google group where we can get transcirpts of the emails?

It's like hangbored talk, only it is longer, and you don't get stronger at the end.

I'm pretty sure you don't get any stronger by talking about hang boardering.