Disagree. This defense has a swagger that I have only seen once in my lifetime. And that was the early 2000 ravens. That team was mean, cocky, and could back it up. I truly believe that they can too.

This type of chatter IMO only helps this team. 1. It ties this defense together. 2. The Fans love it, and the more love the louder the crowd, and 3. Teams like this breed opponents mistakes. This might be a overly simplified example but its like dealing with that one cocky annoying guy at work, or in sports, you begin to care more about hoping and trying to get him to mess up and you push too hard or forget about what you are supposed to do.

EastCoastHawksFan wrote:to be honest Sherman is standing up for all Seahawk fans and players and the organization as a whole.

our team is a family and i wouldnt be surprised if pete brings up shermans trash talking at the team meeting today. they will laugh and look forward to thursday

and THIS:

GoldenTater81 wrote:I do not want him to tone it down.. I want teams to hate us.. I want to be an island here on the west coast that is talked about because teams hate to play us..

I am tired of the warm, cuddly Seahawks we have had the last 10 years.. I love a guy who is willing to talk and then back it up by shutting down his side of the field..

I am mostly tired of people finding out i am a seahawks fan and laughing because of the mediocrity we have been going through.. I want them to be pissed off and remember a time when a Seahawk punched them in the mouth and walk away irritated.

Sherm's smack talk is bigger than just getting in Brady's face. It's getting in EVERYONE'S face. Hawks have not been respected by anyone this year, even when we had the #1 defense and the #1 rusher, we were still underdogs in our own house, we were still labeled "pretenders" by the national media talking heads. And even little talking heads who said good things about us we shit on by the BIG talking heads for being delusional. Then Brady comes out with all this "turn the 12th man against the Seahawks" and "come talk to me after we beat you" crap talk. More disrespect. Sherm's tired of being disrespected, as is the rest of the team and the 12th man. Sherm's tude and swagger is helping transform this team from a doormat "nice guy" Tim Ruskell team into a punch you in the face, take your lunch, eat it in front of you and feed you the garbage group of bad asses.

Couldn't disagree more. This is emblematic of the "nice" and "polite" Pacific Northwest culture. I guarantee you wouldn't see this kind of post on an Eagles' or Steelers' fan board. I love the fact that we finally have a team full of bad asses with a healthy dose of swagger. This is who Richard Sherman is, and it's part of what makes him great. I hope he never shuts up.

What did he do that was so bad? Do we know what he is actually saying in that photo he posted? Was it his rant after the game saying we don't get enough respect? Or him saying Brady should have had 5 picks? Both of those are true statements.

I love it. Sherman has backed up every bit of trash talk he has done so far in his career.

I couldn't disagree more with the OP. This kid needs to do what he's doing because it works. If teams want to work it on him all game then it just means more INT's for us. If it means they throw away from him, then good... we have another great corner and two great safeties. Did talking big hurt Deion Sanders career? I bet he makes a better living now financially than he did as a player. As a mid-rounder Richard isn't making big-time NFL money. His next contract will likely be the one that sets him up for life. How do corners get noticed? They talk... and talk....and talk.... and produce! He does these things well. Why fix it if it isn't broken?

If it starts leading to fines, then I guess you ask him to zip it, but he's not Deion Branch, who has always been a talker and has produced in about 3 games in his career (1 with Seattle, and it was against New England, and one a Super Bowl).

Steve Smith has trash talked his way possibly into the hall of fame by getting into guy's heads. He is small and I bet many of you don't know that Steve broke his neck and had to wear a halo his junior year of college and it hurt his draft status (I saw the screws in his skull up close and personal on the sideline when BYU played Utah... I also saw him break his neck from 10 feet away and it was absolutely disgusting and heartbreaking for an extremely talented kid). Steve talked and talked and talked and produced. He has gotten into the head of EVERY DB in the league at some point and it has served him well. Without that big mouth he wouldn't have had the career he's had I feel. It has made him more productive by giving him a slight edge. You saw two masters of it when Steve and Sherm went up against each other last week.

The thing is to not become a T.O. (ME FIRST) or to become a problem off the field. Steve Smith was never a problem off the field and is a good teammate by most accounts. Sherm is all about the 3 guys next to him back there. He's about proving he belongs. He went to Stanford for hell's sake, so he obviously is an intelligent guy. He's not some knucklehead jawjacking for fun. I believe he's very measured at times in what he does, and others he's just making a name for himself. If it sets him up for life, gets him endorsements, and brings Seattle our new Gary Payton (another prime example of a guy who was a complete pain to EVERYBODY, but by all accounts is a great guy) then all the better.

In fact my uncle met Gary at an Eagle Hardware store his rookie year and talked to him for a half hour about hoops, life, the Sonics, etc. and said he had never met a more kind, respectful, intelligent, congenial, or more thoughtful athlete (and he had met many as he was a dentist that did work on many of the Sonics players, since his office was right by Bill Russell's place). Gary impressed him more than all of the athletes he'd ever met or done emergency dental surgery and follow-ups on over 20+ years, and this was when Gary was still young and known as the biggest mouth in the west. It served him well professionally on the court, professionally off the court, and personally as it built him into a superstar and THE icon of Seattle. Anybody who saw that full building side pic of the Glove down by the Nike Store in the day remembers I hope that Gary WAS Seattle and who knows.... Sherm could be our Revis... and already is looking to be. He's even outplaying Nnamdi for about 1/20 the money. GO SHERM!

"I'm not the type to let a sleeping giant lie. I wake up the giant, slap him around, make him mad and beat him to the ground. I talk a big game because I carry a big stick." --- All-Pro Stanford Graduate

yeah I have to disagree with OP too here. Brady told Sherm to come see him after the game when they (the patriots) have won. That is in my opinion well deserving of some post game smack talk especially after the conclusion we witnessed.

I love it. Sherm has got giant brass cohones and we NEEDED players like this after all those years of soft "character" guys. I LOVE IT.

Screw that nonsense of him toning it down. Brady was being a douche, as usual, Sherman made him pay for it and shoved it right back in his face. I don't want Sherman to tone it down one bit and loved how he acted towards Brady the Lady. Keep it up Richard, and don't listen to these fans who think you should tone it down.

Well, the whole thing was pretty strategically placed if you ask me. Sherman baited Brady - an outstanding HOF quarterback - into throwing at him, and picked one off. What happens when he baits Alex Smith to beat him with the passing game?

World Champion Seattle Seahawks football. It's an addiction, and there is no cure.Les Norton - gone but never forgotten. Rest in blue and green peace, my friend.

Seahawk Sailor wrote:Well, the whole thing was pretty strategically placed if you ask me. Sherman baited Brady - an outstanding HOF quarterback - into throwing at him, and picked one off. What happens when he baits Alex Smith to beat him with the passing game?

Sherman is exactly what you need - badassitute - to be a power puncher. I loved this quote after the game: "We're built for a heavyweight fight," cornerback Richard Sherman said. "I don't think they're built for a heavyweight fight."

SalishHawkFan wrote:Just don't let it become a distraction and stay focused on the next opponent.

That is one of the things I love about this whole Sherman thing....In his locker room "rant" he said that they can enjoy the win now (last night) but have to get ready for a very good 49er team on Thursday. He sounds like he's VERY ready to start prepping for the next game

SharkHawk wrote:I couldn't disagree more with the OP. This kid needs to do what he's doing because it works. If teams want to work it on him all game then it just means more INT's for us. If it means they throw away from him, then good... we have another great corner and two great safeties. Did talking big hurt Deion Sanders career? I bet he makes a better living now financially than he did as a player. As a mid-rounder Richard isn't making big-time NFL money. His next contract will likely be the one that sets him up for life. How do corners get noticed? They talk... and talk....and talk.... and produce! He does these things well. Why fix it if it isn't broken?

If it starts leading to fines, then I guess you ask him to zip it, but he's not Deion Branch, who has always been a talker and has produced in about 3 games in his career (1 with Seattle, and it was against New England, and one a Super Bowl).

Steve Smith has trash talked his way possibly into the hall of fame by getting into guy's heads. He is small and I bet many of you don't know that Steve broke his neck and had to wear a halo his junior year of college and it hurt his draft status (I saw the screws in his skull up close and personal on the sideline when BYU played Utah... I also saw him break his neck from 10 feet away and it was absolutely disgusting and heartbreaking for an extremely talented kid). Steve talked and talked and talked and produced. He has gotten into the head of EVERY DB in the league at some point and it has served him well. Without that big mouth he wouldn't have had the career he's had I feel. It has made him more productive by giving him a slight edge. You saw two masters of it when Steve and Sherm went up against each other last week.

The thing is to not become a T.O. (ME FIRST) or to become a problem off the field. Steve Smith was never a problem off the field and is a good teammate by most accounts. Sherm is all about the 3 guys next to him back there. He's about proving he belongs. He went to Stanford for hell's sake, so he obviously is an intelligent guy. He's not some knucklehead jawjacking for fun. I believe he's very measured at times in what he does, and others he's just making a name for himself. If it sets him up for life, gets him endorsements, and brings Seattle our new Gary Payton (another prime example of a guy who was a complete pain to EVERYBODY, but by all accounts is a great guy) then all the better.

In fact my uncle met Gary at an Eagle Hardware store his rookie year and talked to him for a half hour about hoops, life, the Sonics, etc. and said he had never met a more kind, respectful, intelligent, congenial, or more thoughtful athlete (and he had met many as he was a dentist that did work on many of the Sonics players, since his office was right by Bill Russell's place). Gary impressed him more than all of the athletes he'd ever met or done emergency dental surgery and follow-ups on over 20+ years, and this was when Gary was still young and known as the biggest mouth in the west. It served him well professionally on the court, professionally off the court, and personally as it built him into a superstar and THE icon of Seattle. Anybody who saw that full building side pic of the Glove down by the Nike Store in the day remembers I hope that Gary WAS Seattle and who knows.... Sherm could be our Revis... and already is looking to be. He's even outplaying Nnamdi for about 1/20 the money. GO SHERM!

Damn Shark, not to be on your nuts, but you're on a roll today. First the post to the Pats fan and now this? Good stuff, man. And extra kudos for bringing up Gary. He was and still is one of the most popular athletes (not talking about in the media-with other athletes and entertainers, he's a popular man.)

Let Sherm be Sherm. He is at his best when he is running his mouth. It was worse last year, because he didn't keep himself in check during the game, and was called multiple times for penalties after plays. This year, he is keeping his anger controlled, and playing clean football. A good example of this was the Carolina game, against Steve Smith. Sherm gets under people's skin, and backs it up with SOLID cornerback play. There is little anyone can do to stop either one.

I fully support Sherman's attitude.

cboom wrote:Wilson is the worst QB I have seen as a Hawks fan. And I have been around long enough to see them all.

We are who we are, smash mouth on both sides of the ball, and they are backing up thier talk.

I LOVE the toughness and the talk.

Yep, I seem to remember a lot of fans giving props to Matt Hasselbeck when he gave the We want the ball gig IN GB.Brady didn't show any respect to the Seahawks with his we're going to beat you attitude, and Sherman RIGHTFULLY called him on it.Can't knock Sherman for feeling vindicated with the way it all came down.Brady was put in his place for shooting off his mouth, good for Richard, bad for Tommy.

Someone said on KJR, that Sherman is "Gary Payton with shoulder pads."

Perfect analogy!

"I'm not the type to let a sleeping giant lie. I wake up the giant, slap him around, make him mad and beat him to the ground. I talk a big game because I carry a big stick." --- All-Pro Stanford Graduate

We are who we are, smash mouth on both sides of the ball, and they are backing up thier talk.

I LOVE the toughness and the talk.

Yep, I seem to remember a lot of fans giving props to Matt Hasselbeck when he gave the We want the ball gig IN GB.Brady didn't show any respect to the Seahawks with his we're going to beat you attitude, and Sherman RIGHTFULLY called him on it.Can't knock Sherman for feeling vindicated with the way it all came down.Brady was put in his place for shooting off his mouth, good for Richard, bad for Tommy.

For the record, I have no problem with Brady coming in with a little cockiness and attitude and rebutting the smack talk during the game. He generally can back it up and has the history to prove it. I just think that as long as you can talk a little smack and keep the overall tone, basically respectful (at least not disrespectful) then I have no issue with it.

Tom Brady saying he is going to come in here and make our fans boo our own team = Totally okayTom Brady saying "come see me after this game after we win" = Totally okayThat Scumbag Hernandez grabbing Chancellor's face mask after a catch while he is on the ground and trash talking = okayPatriots claiming we pump noise in and our crowd isn't really that loud = completely okay, probably truebutRichard Sherman gets a big pick, talks to Brady AFTER THE GAME like "you wanted to see us?" = DISRESPECTFUL

this is why we lose (no not cause we don't talk enough) but because people are so vaginal that they think the hawks don't have a right to talk about nothing ever, we can't talk back even when we win. I bet there are some people in here who think we got lucky. Every key to the game on here is how we hope the other team blows it, our fearless predictions are usually always against us unless its a god awful team we are playing.

you have a good chance to beat any team in the league right now, and no its not any given sunday, its THE HAWKS ARE FREAKING GOOD on sunday, monday, thursday, anyday.

expect to win. it is not impossible to think we will run the damned table.

This defense just beat, Tony Romo, Aaron Rogers, Cam Newton, and Tom freaking Brady. In every game the other team somehow lost on their bye week according to national media,

I'd be talking trash to.

I don't think anything Sherman said was wrong. Now if he is still talking about this game tomorrow or later today then thats when Pete has to remind him that "umm niners thursday Rich" but until then KEEP TALKING.

EastCoastHawksFan wrote:to be honest Sherman is standing up for all Seahawk fans and players and the organization as a whole.

our team is a family and i wouldnt be surprised if pete brings up shermans trash talking at the team meeting today. they will laugh and look forward to thursday

and THIS:

GoldenTater81 wrote:I do not want him to tone it down.. I want teams to hate us.. I want to be an island here on the west coast that is talked about because teams hate to play us..

I am tired of the warm, cuddly Seahawks we have had the last 10 years.. I love a guy who is willing to talk and then back it up by shutting down his side of the field..

I am mostly tired of people finding out i am a seahawks fan and laughing because of the mediocrity we have been going through.. I want them to be pissed off and remember a time when a Seahawk punched them in the mouth and walk away irritated.

Sherm's smack talk is bigger than just getting in Brady's face. It's getting in EVERYONE'S face. Hawks have not been respected by anyone this year, even when we had the #1 defense and the #1 rusher, we were still underdogs in our own house, we were still labeled "pretenders" by the national media talking heads. And even little talking heads who said good things about us we shit on by the BIG talking heads for being delusional. Then Brady comes out with all this "turn the 12th man against the Seahawks" and "come talk to me after we beat you" crap talk. More disrespect. Sherm's tired of being disrespected, as is the rest of the team and the 12th man. Sherm's tude and swagger is helping transform this team from a doormat "nice guy" Tim Ruskell team into a punch you in the face, take your lunch, eat it in front of you and feed you the garbage group of bad asses.

drdiags wrote:As our young players transition to veterans, their personalities will come forward. Pete may talk with Richard to try to cap any bulletin board material, but in the end Sherman would not be the first DB to run off at the mouth. I like the "walk softly and carry a big stick" type approach to shutting folks up but in this hype-driven league, those who feel they aren't getting any generate their own.

If Sherman didn't play for the Seahawks, I probably would just consider him a jackass, but he is a Seahawk so I just accept him, warts and all.

Brady does talk crap, so it isn't like he doesn't like mixing it up. It should have stayed on the field in my opinion but Sherman chose not to keep it there. To the victor goes the spoils I gather.

Tone it down? Bleh. Brady didn't show us any respect either. We're a team of competitors and we have swagger. Sherm has swagger in spades and I love it. We've been missing that "Don't f*** with us" attitude for a long time and it's back.

HawksFTW wrote:Let Sherm be Sherm. He is at his best when he is running his mouth. It was worse last year, because he didn't keep himself in check during the game, and was called multiple times for penalties after plays. This year, he is keeping his anger controlled, and playing clean football. A good example of this was the Carolina game, against Steve Smith. Sherm gets under people's skin, and backs it up with SOLID cornerback play. There is little anyone can do to stop either one.

I fully support Sherman's attitude.

Exactly...he's a lot smarter about his trash talking. He seems to have grown and obviously cares a lot about this team and the fans.

A sure sign of his growth was in practice when Lane, I think, lost his cool and tried to fight, Sherm snatched him up and talked to him.

-The Glove- wrote:Damn Shark, not to be on your nuts, but you're on a roll today. First the post to the Pats fan and now this? Good stuff, man. And extra kudos for bringing up Gary. He was and still is one of the most popular athletes (not talking about in the media-with other athletes and entertainers, he's a popular man.)

I was going to say, Shark, you're killin' it "my brotha" (see what I did there)!

Bringing the A game to the board. Love it.

As for Sherm, I absolutely love it. I'm so beyond tired of being considered a soft, mediocre, afterthought, joke of a team in South Alaska. If poah wittle Tommy's feelings get hurt, TOO BAD. And that goes for every other team, player, coach in the NFL. Gary Payton is one of my all-time favorite sports figures and our defense seems to have that GP Mentality.

PAT206 wrote:was anything sherman said untrue? from what i heard he told it how it is. cant argue with that

He called the Pats a "gimick" offense. That's not true at all and sounds kind of dumb after he just dropped 400 yards on you.

Football games are won on points, not yards.Just like baseball games are won on runs, not hits.That gimick offense went 1 for 6 in the redzone, maybe because the gimicks it uses are only effective against the Seahawks between the 20's.

-The Glove- wrote:Damn Shark, not to be on your nuts, but you're on a roll today. First the post to the Pats fan and now this? Good stuff, man. And extra kudos for bringing up Gary. He was and still is one of the most popular athletes (not talking about in the media-with other athletes and entertainers, he's a popular man.)

I was going to say, Shark, you're killin' it "my brotha" (see what I did there)!

Bringing the A game to the board. Love it.

As for Sherm, I absolutely love it. I'm so beyond tired of being considered a soft, mediocre, afterthought, joke of a team in South Alaska. If poah wittle Tommy's feelings get hurt, TOO BAD. And that goes for every other team, player, coach in the NFL. Gary Payton is one of my all-time favorite sports figures and our defense seems to have that GP Mentality.

Don't apologize for it, KEEP IT UP!

Thanks fellas. I've been needing a pick me up. The past while has really sucked. I just wanted to thank you for your kind words. I kind of went off a little today, but it felt good to mix it up a bit. I really appreciate your kind words. You both made my day!

I have missed this kind of trash talk on any Seattle team since the Glove! Love itMaybe too much Ruskell nice guy stuffed down my face but these boys BACK IT UP! I think it plays a big role in how opponents play against us and seems to be effective...And Jerramy Stevens doesn't count

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I just have a few posts so far, (so take this with the "new guy" grain of salt)... I have a lot of respect for Brady and the Pats but I love what I am seeing from this Hawks team. The comparison to Gary P is pretty right on. Sherm is doing a great job and so he called brady out on his disrespect. Personally, I love seeing our team show some passion and care as much about other teams (and even network commentators) dissing our city as much as us fans do. Pretty funny hearing him call him the Brady Bunch, LOL. ...as long as we can back it up. At the end of the day, we win this one and on to the next one. I doubt any more quarterbacks will tell this defense to "come see him after they win" this year.

But why isn't anyone talking about the real person who should "tone it down" and come back to reality...? Is this a designer bathrobe Tom is wearing???

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"(Sherman's) a very good player, and I have a lot of respect for that defense and certainly that secondary," Brady told Jim Gray on Dial Global Sports, via SportsRadioInterviews.com. "They play very well together. My dad taught me at a young age to play with class and respect and give my opponents respect, and certainly I have a lot of respect for the Seahawks."