Did the Raiders really trade 2 1st round picks for Palmer?

Christ, what a terrible trade. Palmer sucks hairy assssssssss. Raiders are a major joke. (Just like the Jets) And just where is Raider fan 90210? He defended that trade practically swearing on his life that Palmer was the real deal. Haha. Wrong!

The reality is though, at least half of the "good" portion of those numbers have come in absolute garbage time and were meaningless to the outcome of the games. His turnovers have all come though when the game was still a game and gave his team no reasonable chance to win. ESPN's QBR stat actually is useful to evaluate him, it has him as one of the worst QBs in the league (#26, although still far better than Sanchez, lol)

Desperate times call for desperate measures. Besides, the Raiders are known for crap like that. However, they suckered us into giving up a 1st for TE Jolley.

Who did we draft with their #2? That was Mike Nugent wasn't it?

This is the same stupid effer that is running our scouting and we wonder why we suck! We should start calling him Woody Vagina because he sure as hell doesn't have a Johnson...keeping people like that employed. SMH.

This is the same stupid effer that is running our scouting and we wonder why we suck! We should start calling him Woody Vagina because he sure as hell doesn't have a Johnson...keeping people like that employed. SMH.

I think so. If it was, that's another knee jerk reaction from Doug brien. Could of easily of signed a FA kicker that year

Palmer throws a beautiful ball... but just there's something missing with him.

He can't make a read.

Lest we forget:

Palmer's best season had a fully healthy and still incredible Ochocinco and Housh pairing.

He's simply not that good. Nor was he ever. The injury combined with the degradation of Johnson and Housh's skills and the mental idiocy of Chris Henry ruined this guy.

He was NEVER like Peyton, Brees, etc., guys who elevate their Wideouts. Palmer was and always will be a product of his wideouts.

He has a huge arm and quick release, but he is best in a situation where he throws it up and lets his guy make plays for it (like Eli) rather than trying to confuse you and pick you apart like Manning or Brady.

The only thing I can think of that was worse was giving up picks to move up to #5 for Rain Man Sanchez.

Originally Posted by Dcat

we swapped 1sts and gave a 2nd in addition to a handful of journeymen scrubs.

It was a great value to be able to move up like that. Mangini got a bunch of his castoffs, nothing more.

And again, the Jets didn't draft Mark Sanchez to be the next Dan Marino. Of course you hope that that's what he becomes, but the Jets were desperate and there were no other quarterbacks on the roster or in free agency that they could get.

And again, the Jets didn't draft Mark Sanchez to be the next Dan Marino. Of course you hope that that's what he becomes, but the Jets were desperate and there were no other quarterbacks on the roster or in free agency that they could get.

Jason Campbell was available and had already proven the ability to be a game manager.

The Redskins wanted to trade him to move up for Sanchez. They thought Sanchez would be a stud.