I was watching some guys playing around at the club yesterday and shooting 27 yard doubles, It looked like fun but they were having trouble with the second bird, Anyone tried this and what was your opinion?

We shoot a game here in the Pacific Northwest called " 50 Bird Doubles Buddy Backer". This is shot from the 27 yard line with the machine set for doubles, IN THE #2 HOLE, with the oscillator on. We usually add a little more spring to the trap to make it more interesting and to narrow the spread of the targets just a bit. Shot with a partner, or buddy, each pair of shooters has 2 shots apiece to break both targets. Usually, the shooter on the left takes the left hand target and the shooter on the right takes the right handed one, but, you can shoot it any way you want. If one shooter breaks his target with one shot, he can use the other shot to help his partner break his target. The goal, of course, is to break as many of the 50 targets as you can. Trust me, a 50 straight in this event is extremely rare and it's a blast to shoot, especially at night under the lights...... You can build a purse any way you want with this game..... Dan Thome (Trap2)

We used 27-yard wobble doubles to settle a tie in the "Two in Family" trophy at the Utah State Shoot this year. It was shot as a "buddy" format with each "two-in-family" pair comprising a team. The shooter on the left had to break the left-hand target, and the shooter on the right had to break the right-hand target. One shot apiece. It went two rounds. I think the winning second round score was 38 to 34.

Everybody seemed to enjoy it. Might make it a fun, non-registered "event" next year.

Larry you are correct they did institute Handicap Doubles but I have the rules. The yardages were a bit different that 27yds.

Handicap Doubles

This event must be shot 10 shots at each station as directed by shoot management from 18 to 27 yards with each shooter in order shooting at two targets thrown simultaneously from the trap house until all have shot the specified number of times, then rotating in a clockwise manner to the next station. Earned yardage will be earned in the same manner as described in Article IV (C). A contestant must stand on the highest whole yardage punched on his or her card. For example, if a card is punched at 20.5 yards, the shooter will stand on 20.0 yards. However, if one half yard is then earned, the card must be punched to 21.0 yards and the shooter must stand on the 21.0 yard line. Initial yardage assignment for all shooters with established Doubles Averages on at least 500 targets in the current and previous target years will be based on their current Doubles Average as follows:

AA 25 Yards

A 23 Yards

B 22 Yards

C 20 Yards

D 17 Yards

New shooters with no established doubles average will be assigned the 18 yard line.

A shooter may not stand on a higher yardage than he is punched, unless assigned penalty yardage by the shoot handicap committee. If there is a 200 target handicap doubles event, the second 100 handicap doubles event must not begin prior to the awarding of earned yardage based on the first 100 target event. It is not permitted to have more than one 50 target handicap doubles events in a registered tournament in 28 any one day.

Doubles from the 16 yard line is now the least favorite ATA event. If we were to add doubles from the 27 yard line, I would predict that 16 yard doubles would no longer be the least favored ATA event. I now shoot a lot of doubles and a lot of handicap from the 27. Both are fun but can be rather frustrating at times. I have no desire to compound my frustration.

Ahab- If doubles from the 27 yard line are easier than doubles from the 16 yard line, then singles from the 27 yard line would also be easier than singles from the 27 yard line. My experience suggests that this is not true.