American system

Thereisa war wracking the world today. It is not a conflict between individual nations or even blocks of nations. It is not so black and white as that. It is not confined to national borders, as wars of the past typically have been. It might best be described as a war between the rulers and the people. But that does not really tell the whole story either, because in the USA the government is “by the people” – ostensibly. More specifically, the conflict is really between two systems of rule – the empire and the republic, or neo-colonialism and the nation-states.

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Burt ReynoldsI think the thing to do is to study the bible for yourself and come to your own conclusion of when the man of lawlessness will reveal himself and whom that may be. It really does not matter if Robert is wrong. Why should you or I or anyone care if he is right or wrong? We do not stand or fall by what Robert says, but by our own faith. Why seek truth from a man when we have to buy it for ourselves? The...

Bonnie Russell1john41, hey there. I'm kinda confused. You asked Robert some questions and he provided some articles he had written on the subject and then you said it would be easier for you or maybe for you and the forum if he just answered your question directly instead of forwarding you to something he had written prior forcing you to read a bunch of other stuff to figure out what Robert's position was. Now my...

1john41YES I am very aware that this is how you understand it and it is fair that you do but if this is your only argument for your view, it is weak, because you ignore the fact that in the same time period you have two entities both said to be exalting themselves above all, but reasonably if that is what is said of both then they would have to be one in the same. As far as your ‘son of destruction'...

Robert KingThe man of lawlessness is also called "the son of destruction." Jesus used that exact same expression in reference to Judas. It should be noted as regards Judas that he collaborated with the Jewish authorities, who themselves were collaborating with the Romans, in order to do away with Christ. In fact, Judas personally led the Roman soldiers to where Jesus and the apostles were, in the Garden of...

1john41[What difference does it make and can you say it did not start then?] It makes a big difference! I say that because if you know when it starts (and other details) you will know who the MOL is. I say that he is not found with in the WTS but is the same as the KOTN, wild beast, KFIC, 8th king, etc. Robert as a lot of insight but also has a lot of things wrong. It is to bad that I can’t fairly...

Burt ReynoldsThere are articles on the man of lawlessness too...all you have to do is look them up in the archive. However, who knows when the essence of the man of lawlessness began? You will know from your studies that Satan rules over the world; when did the first desire to corrupt the preaching work begin? We only need to understand that it has. We are all drawn out by our own desire and thus it is a secret...

Dr. Moreau (aka DΣαd Δl¡€π)yes, the part in my comment were i said "the king of the north is a composite group that make up the banking cartel and military industrial complex and elite people Satan has placed in high places." & "KOTN apparatus" - Dan 11:40. it shouldnt be too hard to detect the disgusting thing during the time of Jehovah's day. i could have also worded - various institutions & organizations. (such as...

1john41Thank you for your response. It would be easier thou if you just stated your answers here as you have been doing. Anyway, I understood from the link that you do say the U.N. is the ‘disgusting thing" that stands in the holy place, but it is only so at the point that it becomes the 8th king. Is that correct? I did not see rather you say the U.N. is the KOTN. Interestingly, you said: ‘the real...

1914for100AlexLuke 21: 20“But when you see Jerusalem SURROUNDED by armies, then know that its desolation has come near. 21Then let those who are IN JUDEA FLEE TO THE MOUNTAINS... Matthew 24: 15“So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing IN the holy place (let the reader understand), 16then let those who are IN JUDEA FLEE TO THE MOUNTAINS. Notice anything?

Robert KingI have written a number of articles on the topic of the disgusting thing. This site has a pretty good search feature. You can enter a term like "disgusting thing" and get good results. For example, here is one of the more recent articles from 2014 https://e-watchman.com/disgusting-thing-causes-desolation/ As far as the apostasy, the WT has been infiltrated by Masons, evidently from the very beginning....

1john41While waiting to hear back with your answers to these two questions: Is the KOTN the U.N.?
Is the 'disgusting thing' that will stand in the 'holy place' the U.N.? I have a few more: Has the KOTN put forth/lead the so-called apostasy yet? If no, when does that occur? Also, what is that said apostasy?