Have to add my 2 cents.I have been riding the Firewire Vanguard for over 5 months.Best small wave board I have used. (waves up to 5ft) Might also have something to do with the magical lay up firewire use's in their boards.These boards have amazing up wind performance surpassing anything but a foil or course board can offer.Gets thru flat sections - fits into tight sections. Its a dream to use.

Guys at Firewire have been working hard to bring to you a durable, light Kite version Vanguard.That does not lose it's crisp feel like most kite brands copies.Hopefully those interested can hold of a little while longer to experience the real deal.

p.s tautologies: hit me up next time you are at Moke's take one for a spin anytime.

Guys at Firewire have been working hard to bring to you a durable, light Kite version Vanguard.That does not lose it's crisp feel like most kite brands copies.Hopefully those interested can hold of a little while longer to experience the real deal.

p.s tautologies: hit me up next time you are at Moke's take one for a spin anytime.

Hi xray,I have a 5'2 and a 5'4 I weigh 160 pounds ride in 12-25knots mainly.The 5'4 was the first Vanguard I received. Don't let the length fool you.I could manage on the light wind days but when the wind kicked in it was a bit too much float.There is no resistance when trying get planning compared to other boards. Once it starts going it goes. I have had 230# guys on the 5'4 never wanting to go back to a normal board.Saying this I beleive that a rider from 165-230 depending on wind conditions could have this one board in his quiver and be very happy.

Then I decided to dabble a little and see if I could go smaller.I went to the 5'2 -perfect fit for someone my size as there is a bit of wind here in Hawaii and I can sink the rail a little more.Both boards have identical characteristics with one just having a bit more foam.

Hi xray,I have a 5'2 and a 5'4 I weigh 160 pounds ride in 12-25knots mainly.The 5'4 was the first Vanguard I received. Don't let the length fool you.I could manage on the light wind days but when the wind kicked in it was a bit too much float.There is no resistance when trying get planning compared to other boards. Once it starts going it goes. I have had 230# guys on the 5'4 never wanting to go back to a normal board.Saying this I beleive that a rider from 165-230 depending on wind conditions could have this one board in his quiver and be very happy.

Then I decided to dabble a little and see if I could go smaller.I went to the 5'2 -perfect fit for someone my size as there is a bit of wind here in Hawaii and I can sink the rail a little more.Both boards have identical characteristics with one just having a bit more foam.

Felix, could you elaborate on the 5'4 being a bit too much once the wind kicks in? I was wondering at which windspeed you're experiencing that.

Thing is, waves build up towards respectable sizes over here when the wind's howling almost exclusively, so at my 176 pounds (that's excl. wetsuit/harness) the 5'4 should keep up when the average wind hits up to 30 knots.

Thanks for all the info Felix! Is the 5'2 a prototype size or is FireWire producing them as well? Also have you done any big spins or shuv its with vanguard. I'm wondering if there is a noticeable difference having less nose, even with strapless spins

Thanks for all the info Felix! Is the 5'2 a prototype size or is FireWire producing them as well? Also have you done any big spins or shuv its with vanguard. I'm wondering if there is a noticeable difference having less nose, even with strapless spins

All the Vanguards that I currently have are the surf version.They are all production sizes. But very fragile, been taking it super easy on them.Boards are super easy spin 360s on and shuvit. Great for jumping but have not been going to hard on it.

Will be great when the kite layup is complete.[quote="BudhaNl"]Great new info !

"""Felix, could you elaborate on the 5'4 being a bit too much once the wind kicks in? I was wondering at which windspeed you're experiencing that.

Thing is, waves build up towards respectable sizes over here when the wind's howling almost exclusively, so at my 176 pounds (that's excl. wetsuit/harness) the 5'4 should keep up when the average wind hits up to 30 knots.""""

Your weight you will not have an issue at all. 5'4 all the way.Its your money size.Board really has a lot of glide so it really gets up and goes.At 155-160 its that little bit too much foam to sink the rail when having that little bit of extra speed when a gust hits. Riding unhooked.

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