Karac:fusillade762: cchris_39: The reading comprehension around here is somewhere between Creationist Peter and Feral Peter.

Please enlighten us, o wise one: which part of this quote are we misinterpreting?

"What we gain and my concern was then and it remains today is that the biggest threat we face is the possibility of terrorist groups like al Qaeda equipped with weapons of mass destruction, with nukes, bugs or gas. That was the threat after 9/11 and when we took down Saddam Hussein we eliminated Iraq as a potential source of that."

Even if you take Cheney's statement is the most positive light possible - that Saddam could have created a bomb, and he could have become friendly with al Qaeda, and he could have decided to part with the WMD's he had spent decades building by giving them to someone over whom he had no control, and who could have very well used them against Saddam himself - even if you assume that all of that is true, you still have to recognize one simple, incontrovertible fact:

We create thousands upon thousands of more terrorists and extremists by invading Iraq than we ever killed there. The US invading Iraq was the greatest recruiting commercial for terrorists in the world since the Russians invaded Afghanistan.

cchris_39:fusillade762: cchris_39: The reading comprehension around here is somewhere between Creationist Peter and Feral Peter.

Please enlighten us, o wise one: which part of this quote are we misinterpreting?

"What we gain and my concern was then and it remains today is that the biggest threat we face is the possibility of terrorist groups like al Qaeda equipped with weapons of mass destruction, with nukes, bugs or gas. That was the threat after 9/11 and when we took down Saddam Hussein we eliminated Iraq as a potential source of that."

I read it more as Michael Corleone saying he has eliminated you as a threat. Just seems to be a better contextual fit.

Wut? We lost thousands of our citizens, we killed hundreds of thousands of humans, we created thousands of radicals who now have reason to harm us, we spent trillions, we blew our first shot and trimming our deficit since WW2-

Mambo Bananapatch:malaktaus: Satanic_Hamster: God damn.... I hate to say crap like this, but in a perfect world he'd be on trial and hung for what he's done to the world.

In a perfect world his mother would have had an abortion.

In a perfect world his *grandmother* would have had an abortion, just to make sure.

Just imagine how different things would be if only Clayton Williams hadn't told that less-than-ten-second joke in 1990. Texas would have to have done without their best governor in recent memory, but think how much better off the USA and world would be today.

Flappyhead:And this guy hasn't been black bagged, thrown into a van, driven to an airport and flown to the Hague because?

Because neither Iraq nor the USA is a state party to the ICC. AFAIK either the alleged offender must be a citizen of a ratified state party, or the crime must have taken place in a ratified state party.

Anyway, he should be rolled up into a carpet and dumped into the East River.

D. medinensis is a parasite which has been reported in humans, dogs, cats, horses, cattle, and other animals in Africa and Asia. It enters a host by way of host ingestion of stagnant water contaminated with copepods (water fleas) infested with guinea worm larvae. The adult worm grows within the host and eventually moves downwards, usually to the lower leg, through the subcutaneous tissues it leads to intense pain localized to its path of travel. The painful, burning sensation experienced by infected people has led to the disease being called "the fiery serpent". Other symptoms include fever, nausea, and vomiting. Once a Guinea worm begins emerging, the first step is to do a controlled submersion of the affected area in a bucket of water. This causes the worm to discharge many of its larva, making it less infectious. The water is then discarded on the ground far away from any water source. Submersion results in subjective relief of the burning sensation and makes subsequent extraction of the worm easier. To extract the worm, a person must wrap the live worm around a piece of gauze or a stick. The process can be long, taking anywhere from hours to months. It is of great importance not to break the worm when pulling it out. Broken worms have a tendency to putrefy or petrify. Putrefaction leads to the skin sloughing off around the worm. Petrification is a problem if the worm is in a joint or wrapped around a vein or other important area.

Dick Cheney is the only person who ever lived who actually deserves guinea worms. Sadly, they are repulsed by him and will have nothing to do with him.

Marcus Aurelius:Maybe we should invade Israel to make sure THEY don't have nuclear weapons.

Who's with me?

Best Korea has chemical AND nuclear weapons. Definite possession of WMDs. We KNOW they've got them. Hell, they even brag that they've got them. No U.N. inspectors necessary. Why don't we invade NK and get rid of those WMDs?

The Why Not Guy:Hey, save a slice of that blame pie for the 70% of Americans who couldn't be bothered to spend the five seconds necessary to realize the administration's claims simply didn't add up. Of course, you'll have trouble finding them... none of them admit it now.

And each and every Tea Party supporter will claim to have been one of the "Good Germans" when their smoke clears to reveal the burned out wreckage of this once-proud, former world power.

Fark Me To Tears:Marcus Aurelius: Maybe we should invade Israel to make sure THEY don't have nuclear weapons.

Who's with me?

Best Korea has chemical AND nuclear weapons. Definite possession of WMDs. We KNOW they've got them. Hell, they even brag that they've got them. No U.N. inspectors necessary. Why don't we invade NK and get rid of those WMDs?

Same reason we know that Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, et al knew for a fact prior to the invasion that Iraq did not have WMDs: invading a nation that really does have WMDs would be insane.

BMulligan:Dick Cheney is the only person who ever lived who actually deserves guinea worms. Sadly, they are repulsed by him and will have nothing to do with him.

Guinea worms would be way too soft of a punishment for him. That other parasite that enters through the urethra I honestly can't imagine a sufficient punishment. The worst imagined versions of the Christian Hell and Lake of Fire, or any other religion's worst afterlife punishment, don't even come remotely close to sufficing.

Over a million horribly dead (and millions more likely to die) in a vain attempt to satisfy his greed. The greatest nation in history looted and gutted in a vain attempt to satisfy his greed.

Fark Me To Tears:Marcus Aurelius: Maybe we should invade Israel to make sure THEY don't have nuclear weapons.

Who's with me?

Best Korea has chemical AND nuclear weapons. Definite possession of WMDs. We KNOW they've got them. Hell, they even brag that they've got them. No U.N. inspectors necessary. Why don't we invade NK and get rid of those WMDs?

What, are you crazy? They have WMDs! It would be nuts to attack them. I can't imagine why other countries would try to make WMDs of their own, after what happened to Iraq and what didn't happen to North Korea. Wait a second...

D. medinensis is a parasite which has been reported in humans, dogs, cats, horses, cattle, and other animals in Africa and Asia. It enters a host by way of host ingestion of stagnant water contaminated with copepods (water fleas) infested with guinea worm larvae. The adult worm grows within the host and eventually moves downwards, usually to the lower leg, through the subcutaneous tissues it leads to intense pain localized to its path of travel. The painful, burning sensation experienced by infected people has led to the disease being called "the fiery serpent". Other symptoms include fever, nausea, and vomiting. Once a Guinea worm begins emerging, the first step is to do a controlled submersion of the affected area in a bucket of water. This causes the worm to discharge many of its larva, making it less infectious. The water is then discarded on the ground far away from any water source. Submersion results in subjective relief of the burning sensation and makes subsequent extraction of the worm easier. To extract the worm, a person must wrap the live worm around a piece of gauze or a stick. The process can be long, taking anywhere from hours to months. It is of great importance not to break the worm when pulling it out. Broken worms have a tendency to putrefy or petrify. Putrefaction leads to the skin sloughing off around the worm. Petrification is a problem if the worm is in a joint or wrapped around a vein or other important area.

Dick Cheney is the only person who ever lived who actually deserves guinea worms. Sadly, they are repulsed by him and will have nothing to do with him.

The true irony of your statement?

The Carter Foundation, created by that best-of-all-ex-Presidents, one James Earl Carter, has virtually eliminated the Guinea worm in Africa, with an annual infection rate of under 500 last year down from over 2 million when they began 20 years ago. The antithesis of Cheney has nearly eliminated the one thing Cheney deserves more than anything else...

We don't know for sure. Let's have congress send Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney to the Hague and have an international court determine whether they are war criminals or not. If they are not guilty everyone agrees to stop ragging on them, seriously all stop, on the other hand if found guilty they will be hanged until death. Sounds fair?

This is the kind of person who, in centuries past, would have started "disappearing" citizenry who were as vocal in their opposition to the war as many on the left were on the run-up to the absolute farkup that was the new gulf war. And would have done it with a smile.