KOTOR 2 still did not live up to how good the original one, by Bioware, was, by a long shot. The game had a lot of errors, issues and in the end didn't provide the same in game feel as the initial game did.

Dunno Seproth, if Obsidian does the same thing as they did in KotOR then I'd be unhappy. While there were changes, such as component breakdown, influence, more classes and such, a lot of it was not up to snuff and not tested throughly. If they take their time with this one and don't sprint through production like a bat fleeing hellfires then I'll be optimistic.

Do you mean *this* Fallout in particular or the entire Fallout franchise? This isn't an expansion (DLC) it's a brand new game in the franchise. And hey, some of us liked FO3 but, it wasn't as good as the original Fallout.

now i'm just indifferent. i liked fallout 3 pretty well until my computer decided to stop running it (but thats my problem, and i dont dislike the game for it). i dont think i liked it enough to get excited about a sequel. :\

@OV, if that was directed at me, I can't imagine a more immature reply. How is my not being impressed with the old fallout games related to my "arguing" with ToW and chaut(with whom, btw, I don't recall arguing)

Would have to disagree with you there. I can see why you'd think that but..GTA2 was top-down, Fallout 2 is isometric. GTA3 is third person, Fallout 3 is first person..worlds of differences.Anyway, personally, I have no real interest in the early GTA games..3D is where it thrived..but I can't recommend the early Fallouts enough, isometric or not. The high resolution patch brings it up to speed well enough.

Not really the same thing though (replying directly to your comment after mine, not that little 'argument' or w/e, fyi).

I mean with GTA the core gameplay was still exactly the same; steal cars, drives cars, total cars, find guns, shoot guns, kill people, etc. It just went from crappy PS1 top down to 3D, evolving.

Whereas Fallout 2, a true RPG in pretty much all senses of the words, moved to Fallout 3 and was turned into an action-RPG, the core gameplay mechanics being completely different. Okay, maybe it wasn't a complete overhaul since they still had a number of RPG aspects in the game, but it was still an overhaul, a pretty obvious one if you'd played any of the old games.

The metaphoric Pikachu of GTA turned into a Raichu, whereas the metaphoric Charmander of Fallout somehow turned into a Blastoise.

Obsidian Entertainment, who are technically part of Black Isle Studios, who made the original Fallout and Fallout 2, are now, after Bethesda, making a Fallout based on Bethesda's universe and not their own?

Kinda weird that they'd not show interest in a series they kinda created and would wait until someone else made it cool again... and then do it their way.

But Kotor II was cool. Not half as good as the original, but it had some sweet characters and plots, so these guys have talent.