If you had done a bit of research you would know the person they claim Obama's SSN is for, Harrison Bounel, never even existed!

And there was me, knowing the seedly but powerful existence politicans tend to lead and what is at stake, thinking that 'never existed' very simply
meant some intelligence lackies were sent scurrying around the records office where the puppet masters had lifted the ID of a dead baby born and died
sometime around the same time as a certain well positioned politician was born, and sniffed out and snapped up all remaining records, hard and soft,
that had once belonged to the unfortunate and ID hijacked infant Bounel..silly me...those sorts of things would never happen on any realistic level
for ordinary people, such as you or I, much less for those who wield almost infinite power, money and influence...couldn't happen.

originally posted by: Cynicaleye
Oh look another racist conservative who is trying to get Obama impeached. Yawn. Odd how white presidents have never had to face this sort of
scrutiny..

That Sir, is a bald faced error of fact. I won't be so bold as to call you a scalawag, because you may be as innocent as you are ignorant. The fact
is that American Presidents are scrutinized ever whichaway as everbody (but you) knows.

Let me offer, with humility in my heart, for your edification, the following list:

1. George Washington (1789-1797) was born in 1732, in the British Colony of Virginia, and was a British subject, until the formation of the
Government of the United States of America in 1789, when he became its first president.
2. John Adams (1797-1801) was born in the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1735.
3. Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) was born in 1743 in the colony of Virginia.
4. James Madison (1809-1817) was born in 1751 in the colony of Virginia.
5. James Monroe (1817-1825) was born in the colony of Virginia, in 1758.
6. John Quincy Adams (1825-1829) was born in 1767 in the colony of Massachusetts.
7. Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) was born in 1767 in the colony of the Carolinas.
8. Martin Van Buren (1837-1841) was born in 1782 in the colony of New York.
9. William Henry Harrison (1841) was born in 1773 in the colony of of Virginia. He died in office from pneumonia.

The tenth US president, John Tyler (1841-1845) was the First US born president. He was born in March 29, 1790, in the State of Virginia in USA.

The bad news is many think its all real.
The real real bad news is the Octopus has 8 legs with around 240 suction cups on each tentacle which equates to roughly 1,920 total.
Defenses-
An octopus's main (primary) defense is to hide, either not to be seen at all, or through camouflage and mimicry.

Its quite entertaining to see very intelligent folks with good jobs good pay lots of friends fall for it all...especially when they look down on you
as the real loser.
Gotta lose to win ya know

originally posted by: Not Authorized
Let competent Grand Jury, audit all the details around the certificate.
It will finally end the debate, once and for all.

No it will not, as the birther nonsense was never about any bit of paper Obama produced, it was about the fact he was elected president!

I give you credit for your tenacity as well as your strength of conviction. That is said sincerely, I'm not trying to be a smart @ss.

That being said, this particular stance reminds me of back when Michael Jordan had retired (1st time) and had that commercial (it might have been a
Nike). He looked into the screen with a bit of an intense (possibly intended to be intimidating) stare and asked (I'm paraphrasing from memory),
"If I'd never picked up a basketball, would I STILL be your Hero?"

That always struck as odd all the way around. Had he never played the game, the average basketball fan would never have heard of him. Was he saying
that he was born to be a hero regardless of how he chose to make a living, was it because there was something about him or his skin color that would
have made him a hero, even from obscurity?

It's difficult to feel much sympathy for someone wanting the highest office in the land that wants his personal information kept confidential. It
comes with the territory...

We don't need to argue the rest of it, because we each know where the other stands. I can respect someone that stands up for what they believe
whether I am in agreement or not.

However, if a Republican makes it into office, He or She should absolutely unseal all of Obama's executive order bullsht and reveal it for what it
is. No more conspiracies, either he's a legal president or he is not a legal president.

Let the Democratic Party stand for what they covered up or let the Republican Party look like fools for saying it existed.

originally posted by: CornShucker
It's difficult to feel much sympathy for someone wanting the highest office in the land that wants his personal information kept confidential. It
comes with the territory...

Just like every previous President.... also remember your records are "sealed" exactly the same as Obama's are....

The SAME old people pop up as if they are "The Defenders of the Universe" when discussing Obama.

Their pathetic name calling, "birthers" in every freaking post the make. Really shows the tactics they have to stoop to just to get their point
across.

They spend equally if not MORE time dedicated to the eradication of free speech and the right to question.

Are you people so snug in your little truth blanket that you don't think Obama lies? It's practically a job requirement to become a politician and
even more of an art form for President.

Let people discuss any topic freely without ridicule. When your agenda is to snuff free debate, you are a worse breed than ANY people you label as
birthers. I feel sorry for you. Conspiracies have been proven to be true you know, and with attitudes like yours, no wonder the truth takes so long to
come to light.

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