A very plausible scenario,but where did you fit our Monarchy into that? As Canadians of European descent,we happily and financially allow the Queen to
still basically rule. Asians would not do the same. Going to have them overthrow all British rule?

It does about as well in the scenario as it did holding on to Hong Kong realistically.

A very plausible scenario,but where did you fit our Monarchy into that? As Canadians of European descent,we happily and financially allow the Queen to
still basically rule. Asians would not do the same. Going to have them overthrow all British rule?

It does about as well in the scenario as it did holding on to Hong Kong realistically.

Hong Kong was not a British Colony
Britain had a 99 year lease on Hong Kong. When the lease expired it was handed back to China.

Well I'll bite. I thought this thread was about joining our countries into one but you took it into a possible future scenario with China taking over
as the worlds super power. There is little doubt concerning China's ambitions. There is a military conflict coming. I am not a war monger but I see
no other way to preserve the free world from communist China. Since China's admission in 2001 into the WTO (World Trade Organization) they have
snubbed every trade regulation there in. We live within a tsunami of Chinese consumer goods fueled by the multinational corporations who care only
about profits. This has been the single largest reason for our economic reality today in both the United States and Canada if not the entire world.
It's pretty easy to compete when you have 1.3 billion slaves at your disposal.

Apple, our darling little phones everyone can't live without employees 26 000 people in California and 700 000 in China where all their products are
manufactured. They are worth billions and use slave labour to make it and we all line up to buy it. We need to wake up folks.

The large players in our mist like the Bilderberger types and the Bohemian grove types are feudal lords today as they were hundreds of years ago. Back
then we could make a run on the castle and have their heads but today it's quite a bit different because they own governments, armies and police
forces. We are done to them. They need new consumers. This is what terms emerging economies and globalization is all about. Even war to them is a
mechanism to profit.

What a mess and how deep does the rabbit hole go. We can't solve it all here on ATS but we can inform ourselves. Stop buying goods from China.
Walmart is Chinamart so stop shopping there. Capitalism, socialism, communism and all the other ism's are not the answer. We need something new.
Competition isn't helping either. Sustainability might be a starting point to consider.

I don't overly buy into the whole "don't buy from China they will take over thing"

North America has always been the place for refugees, even if you look at the natives you find Haplo groups from all over the world.

The next wave of immigration in a Continent shaping way is Asian regardless of what anyone does they have the numbers and money just like at one point
Europeans were 5 times as numerous as people on this continent, our population control bs is the real issue.

Here's the deal, China can start a war in the Pacific rim, LOOSE BADLY but still demographically convert us to an Eastern Superpower from a Western
super power.

Picture 10 Million Indians, Vietnamese, Japanese, South Koreans, Taiwanese along with another 15 million assorted Islanders, Burmese, Philippines,
Malaysians Indonesians etc.... China could cause that exodus without eating 1/100th of it's population to displace it. Japan has Reactors... one
Missile and another Fukushima in the south, you might get 2-3x that number having to leave, these are Islands...and peninsulas, contaminate them
people have to get on boats

China knows what the USA does when it wins a war, you become an ally, get rebuilt... Japan bounced back better than before...

So is there even a fear of fighting us, 50-60-70 Million refugees of Asian decent (at least) and if you loose your an ally lol?

Canada don't got but 36 Million people and 20% are already from overseas...

And we have a lot of abortions, people who are limited by law, land area, resources etc from having children, will have a lot of babies generations 1
and 2 in the new world...

Fight Asia you get More, don't fight them it still is inevitable unless your a Mormon from utah and still keep up birth rates... there are well over
3 Billion in the area... we combined on the continent including Mexico...just over 400 Million, your out numbered 10-1, it's not a stupid "Army of
One" battle where the USA thinks technology can have a 10-1 kill ratio. It can... That's why they wont fight us that way.

We didn't kill of the natives when it was Europe's exodus... maybe 1-2% from fighting...

penninja
Hate to break it to the canucks who have it good at the moment....

You can make all wild claims, like "over my dead body" but this WILL happen AND just like what goes on in the States so slowly there isn't a damn
thing you can do about it...

I'm not talking after the next elections, over the next...oh I'd venture 40 years and IF they want it to happen faster, there will be something that
mandates it like war...

Truth is... none of you even matter in this, in 40 years your voices will be gone/diminished and you need to look at the demographics of the future
not what you THINK should be the case...

1: treaties that are slowly vaporizing the ability to even tell the difference between the 2 nations happen every few years, one of the biggies will
be a necessitated water deal sometime in our lifetime

2: Canada can resist US pressure about only as long as the US allows it to, 40 million people North 300 + million South and you are completely and
absolutely dependent on us in case of war... Yes I can hear the giant scoff from up North but be realistic, there is only so far Canada can go in
allowing ties with the USA to diminish, all the liberality you have like health care...dependent entirely on the US war machine, China needs a place
to expand and your empty

3: back to demographics

The truth, you current canucks will be a minority by then... the reality china and India in fact have already invaded, NO, not with Tanks, with
people... the Chinese call it "Peoples War" and with 2.6 Billion Chinese and Indians we don't even have a chance against the tide let alone
Canada... what will be the capacity for the Canadian tune to change? A MASSIVE ASIAN populace that thinks about money not keeping a pristine
wilderness intact...

Think I'm wrong? In both America and Canada Asians are the number one growing ethnic group, even in Mexico they come like a storm, while idiot
Americans watch the border of mexico the TRUTH is, hardly any come anymore... more are going home because we are in a # state of affairs...

But on the West Coast... Asians, 20 locations around San Fran are 20% Asian by demographic at least 4 are over 50% and Doctors will tell you they are
loading up houses and birthing them in... Just 2 months ago a very wealthy area of LA became demographically Asian... And that's the USA

How about Hongcouver, you can't even tell looking at a Photograph it isn't part of Asia but rather North America...

Let's not forget the economic zones the chinese govt is setting up...they aren't screwing around, you could claim this is immigration to major
cities and always the case, but no... Chinese run locations in America include Part of Idaho and Northern Michigan and every home in detroit is being
bought by a chinese person post bankruptcy for pennies...

But it doesn't stop with immigration and trade...

No one is dumb here right? We ALL know Fukushima is bad news right, when 10 Million Japanese show up eventually who else will take them but us and
Canada, what will we do as Westerners say NO? You know we can't right?....

How about Taiwan? And South Korea? This is Ats right? We are aware here that the US govt sooner or later is in deep doo doo economically, that our off
shore ability to project power will one day be unaffordable, there will be no more choice than when the Soviet Union fell to "let go" of some
interests....

So when China takes taiwan back, does so with the tech they stole from us, and every taiwanese kid that can get on a boat arrives and ditto for when
lil Kim starts thrusting his Dong into South Korea, both our countries are going to absorb a lot of freakin Asians...

Sorry but this is predictable stuff... Canada ALREADY has a larger percentage of Asians than we have Blacks and we have a Black president... and
Unlike our Blacks (no offense intended here) Asians make a lot of god damned money...

The next wave is Asian... PERIOD, so is the MONEY

Right now Asian Immigration to America is higher than Mexican Immigration ever was and Canada has larger numbers and a smaller population...

So when this vote comes...

After years and even Decades of chiseling the boundaries away...

The Voters will be from an America that is 30% - 40% Asian and a Canada that might top 50% - 60% and every God damn company lobbying for it will be
Chinese owned... in 40-50 years, if not sooner...

20% of Canada is no immigrant, 1 in 5 and we all know they have more babies than established Natives... and that's not including the 4% actual
natives who are for all intents and purposes...Asiatic of origin, 60% of those immigrants are Asian, not including those from India as part of
Asia...

This PRE USA collapse from the region and God knows how many that will arrive as Chinese power slowly flexes over the coming decades...

How do I know the trend will continue... Canada has the land, it's only 500,000 for an Entrepreneurs Visa, which for all Intents and purposes is the
way to "buy in" anywhere you want, the Chinese have the Money as will Taiwanese, Japanese and south koreans fleeing china..and disasters and what
have you... Lowly Americans like me can't afford that lol... but they sure can. They have programs to sponsor it...

So again...

When this vote comes, it wont be Us Muricans you dislike so much, nor you rednecks up North doing the voting... it will be the 7 children of your
philipino neighbor and others.... with Chinese Lobbyists in your Governments pushing it and things of such a nature...

It will happen, you will be the crazy old white guy with a shotgun keeping all the little Asians off your Lawn when it does...

You do know that 89% of Canadian territory is "Crown Land" i take it?
When you say "It's going to happen" i am afraid it is quite the reverse.
The Crown will never give up the land, in fact they carn't. It is written in statute that it has to be passsed onto the next Monarch.
Even if the US or any other country wanted to buy it, they would never have enough money to do so.

of course ALL Canadian's and AMERICANS,, get too have a North American Referendum,, right?,,ohh and i get too build the WEB page,,
but,, if we do MERGE,, i want as part of the MERGER argreement, between a Corp. USA,, and a Confederation of Prov.,,, i want MY CHOICE of
handgun,,rifle,,with a crate of Ammo for each,,,,or im not signing.

i thought Britian was Broke,,,remember last year,, Buckingham,, had to cancel Christmas,,for the STAFF,,, lack of funds

"You do know that 89% of Canadian territory is "Crown Land" i take it? ",,yes except for the parts ,,NOT negotiated,
with, when that North American Act,,was signed,sealed and,,paid for. many times over.

and the Confederation of Province,, own the Land's Resources,,if i remeber right.
not the Federal Govt.
So any deal for Resources must be made too the Head or Premier,, of said Prov.

i thought Britian was Broke,,,remember last year,, Buckingham,, had to cancel Christmas,,for the STAFF,,, lack of funds

"You do know that 89% of Canadian territory is "Crown Land" i take it? ",,yes except for the parts ,,NOT negotiated,
with, when that North American Act,,was signed,sealed and,,paid for. many times over.

and the Confederation of Province,, own the Land's Resources,,if i remeber right.
not the Federal Govt.
So any deal for Resources must be made too the Head or Premier,, of said Prov.

"The largest class of landowners are the provincial governments, who hold all unclaimed land in their jurisdiction"

ok so Possession is 9/10th of the LAW of ownership.
(may refer to,,, Contents,,ie LAND's Resources. 1 Law

is 9/10th of the LAW

and Holding for the Crown,, does not mean the Crown,, OWNS's the Land,, just has first "dibs",,as we ,common folk say.

After all it worked for the Indians,, and thats why neither the,,,Govt. Federal or Provincial,,or the CROWN IN Britian,,would dare to say "this is
our land"
but hey us Canadians are pretty easy going,, so ya our Politions probably sold us out.

as an aside Paul Guy Desmarais Sr. died,,may he rest in piece,,,what was the name of his buddy,,way back in the day ,,that went too the U.N.,,thought
he was Lester Pearson,,

In a personal perspective, having a fiancé in Canada. It would make travels and immigrating process so much easier. It would be nice, if we could
have a EU like system. There are many who travel in and out of Canada/US, doing this would make traveling and immigrating anywhere in North America
seamless.

But of course there is always sovereignty and national pride to come across.

China is literally playing "the Crowns Game" The very colonies that "The Crown" uses USA, Canada, Australia... to maintain it's power base are
the exact same places where the voting population will be over run with Asians...

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