5. I have been trying to find a list or a 'guesstimate' myself

26. I found this on "the Google":

"The pressure has been rising on 31 Democrats who a year ago joined a letter written by House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa to President Barack Obama, asking him to direct Mr. Holder and the Justice Department to work with the congressional investigation into Fast and Furious, the botched gun-walking operation. That list of 31—which included such members as Pennsylvania Reps. Jason Altmire and Mark Critz, Utah Rep. Jim Matheson, and Kentucky Rep. Ben Chandler—read like a who's who of vulnerable Democrats in the 2012 election. These members are aware that many voters in their swing districts have been focused on Fast and Furious, and at least last year wanted to be seen as aiding efforts to get to the bottom of the affair."

>snip<

"When the Hill newspaper contacted all 31 to ask their intentions, Mr. Cooper and three other Democrats (Ohio's Tim Ryan; New Mexico's Martin Heinrich; and Texas's Gene Green) said they would vote against contempt in the broader House. A spokesman for Maine's Mike Michaud said the congressman was undecided. The 26 others did not respond to requests for comment, although Utah's Mr. Matheson has since become the first Democrat to say he will vote with Republicans to hold Mr. Holder in contempt. As Mr. Matheson told the Salt Lake Tribune: "Sadly, it seems that it will take holding the attorney general in contempt to communicate that evasiveness is unacceptable." "

8. Hell ...

We can't show unity among liberals/progressives in the civilian population that have nothing to lose by showing unity ... why would we expect that of people whose fame and fortune is based on their being "an independent voice in Congress?"

62. Bi-Partisanship at its most nauseating!

Now THIS is Bi-Partisanship.
Better get used to it!
Hahahahahahaha!

For those who insist that the US Government is a monolithic organization
incapable of acting quickly,
let this forever dispel that myth.
The Senate, The Congress, and the White House delivered almost a Trillion Dollars to
the Wall Street Banks less than a week after receiving the 3 page Extortion Note!
Our Congress & Senate can strike faster than a rattlesnake...
when their 1% Personal Portfolios are threatened.

They didn't "Save the Economy".
They saved their Personal Net Worth from taking a hit,
and the jobs of a few friendly Wall Street Bankers.

Kumbaya my lord,
Kumbaya!

"Its a BIG Club,
and YOU ain't in it!"--- George Carlin

Thank gawd it passed!

You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
Solidarity99!--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

18. They find they can get more conservative laws passed as "Democrats"

why would they change their winning plan now?

They have been infiltrating for years and have set up Conservative think tanks like Third Way and PPI to promote conservatism. The Koch Brothers even helped with the financing and personally kick started the DLC.

All is well for them, they would be weaker as the Republicans they are and they know it.

We are the ones that need to change strategy because our strategy of giving them all the power to fuck us from within has been a disaster. We even put infiltrators on the top of our ticket and wonder why we get Heritage Foundation laws being passed by "Democrats" that negotiate conservatism in our name.

Do you really want them stinking the tent up with elephant shit all the time?
I hate the smell around here myself.

21. They already vote with the Republicons

So what's the difference when they switch parties?
The Democratic party needs to dragged back to the left kicking if screaming. If it takes losing a couple seats in order to get it done so be it. We have to look at the long term, not just election to election. The Republicons did it and look at the condition our country is in. We won't get any change if we keep putting the same people back in office hoping for a different result.

16. As soon as the NRA said they were scoring the vote, it should have been apparent to all

what the hell was going on.

Actually, when Issa and the other GOPheads started spouting that gun control lunacy, people should have known there was never going to be any there there. But the NRA scoring is like a triple-gainer leap over the shark for this Fast and Furious BS.

23. Not easy to be an FDR Democrat these days

27. I fear we may end up prevailing at the end of a depression that will dwarf the last one

Remember, we do not have the pressure of a Communist party pulling from the left to help us find a true balance like we did last time.

Without that, FDR Democrats (the closest thing to the true center in America) are pulling the rope alone against the fascist right. We may very well end up with third world lives and fascism before we even have a chance.

28. Send the FORUNE article to their offices and follow up with a phone call.

30. If Holder himself weren't such a coward, it would be easier to defend him

This is an Attorney General who has chosen to persecute cancer-stricken medical marijuana users and minimum-wage single-moms of illegal music downloaders rather than Bush war criminals and Wall St. firms who've swindled the middle class out of its nest egg.

Somehow, the Democratic party went from great AG's like Robert F. Kennedy to 1% enablers like Eric Holder.

32. Someone always says they have to worry about their conservative base..

why in the hell aren't they worried about us. If they are so worried about their conservative base then they need to trot their asses right over to their party the CONservative/RepubliCON party and stop trying to pretend that they are there for our best interests.

These are the same mfkers who stopped most of what we wanted in healthcare among other things the President has tried to do. He knows which ones who won't have his back so he has to always make some bullshit deal.

McCaskill,Casey,Testor and especially Manchin who is really an in your face RepubliCON would never get my vote he runs on fox and tells the world he is really a republiCON who is pretending to be a Democrat he shows up on Hannity and takes his marching orders..

40. HUGE K & R !!!

41. The DCCC has been bombarding my email account

begging for money (as usual), citing the 2nd quarter deadline of June 30th as vital to Democratic candidates. Well, guess what, folks???
Not a dime of mine will be going to the DCCC. Instead, the little I can give this quarter will be going to Obama, Grayson, Warren, and Sherrod Brown. The DCCC will be getting a note from me, with CC's to Debbie W-S and any Dems who vote with the repigs.

56. In many cases it's actually the other way around

It's less that they've been 'let in' and more that they are 'still there.'

Alot of this has much to do with regional identity. Many conservative Dems come from conservative places with longstanding ties to the Democratic party, going back to when the parties were very different. West Virginia is a perfect example. It's fairly conservative in many ways, but still retains a lot of its old allegiance to the Democratic party (though not in presidential politics).

52. Just saying...

Not that I'm an expert, but I think it is a pretty good guess that all or most of these 30 Democrats feel that they have a very precarious situation with their own re-election efforts back home. I don't know, what's better... Vote against contempt and raise the risk of losing the seat to a Repub, or vote for contempt and maybe decrease the risk of losing? Just saying...

54. Wow, are they really voting on this tomorrow?? Sounds like cover for good ACA news they expect....

anyone else think so?? If they thought it would be bad news for the President, they would have saved this vote for next week so they could prolong the bad news. This makes me think they want to vote tomorrow to overshadow the good ACA news they see coming out tomorrow.