P.S. If BC has said it's not a talent issue, and this is saying there's no coaching issue... well, I think you guys see what I'm getting at here. :police:

Thug

12-12-2012 12:44 AM

The coaching was fine last year.

bigmandinky

12-12-2012 12:47 AM

It's a commentating issue! Devlin should be the first to go!!!

Beans

12-12-2012 12:50 AM

The Raptors should play handball instead of basketball

Metallikid

12-12-2012 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thug
(Post 719672)

The coaching was fine last year.

A good coach is one who gets the team to play well both on the individual level (in terms of buying into the defensive system and motivating them to put in the effort to match what that system espouses) and on the team level (in terms of dictating the Xs and Os and demanding the unselfish play to carry it out), regardless of roster changes.

Look at Jacque Vaughn, or Frank Vogel, or Mike Dunlap, or Mark Jackson, or Monty Williams or Tyrone Corbin. ALL of them are in their first head coaching position and ALL of them have had to deal with either a severe lack of talent on the roster or considerable personnel changes, or both. It's no coincidence the bottom-of-the-barrel talent level Magic, Bobcats and Hornets are playing better than us in spite of that, or that teams with talent (Pacers, Warriors, Jazz) who lost long tenured coaches managed to maintain or even improve their teams performance.

There's an old adage in basketball, "Players win, coaches lose" Dwane Casey is definitely the one losing us games here.

carp

12-12-2012 03:14 AM

We got younger when we needed to get older... not good. It's not all on Casey. A lot of new players, younger players, injuries, and a shitty glue guy.... hard to completely fault him.

Ba dum tsss

12-12-2012 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carp
(Post 719711)

It's not all on Casey.

Agree, but Raps is in need of serious shakeup. They need to establish a winning mentality and i don't think that DC is the right person to do that. He had his chance. I think that players don't believe in his coaching system. This "team" is in the middle of nowhere, so bring in new coach, or shakeup roster.

rapsmannn

12-12-2012 05:41 AM

stern smiles in other news the nba anounces that the thunder won 4th in the draft lottery,

Bmats7returns

12-12-2012 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carp
(Post 719711)

We got younger when we needed to get older... not good. It's not all on Casey. A lot of new players, younger players, injuries, and a shitty glue guy.... hard to completely fault him.

my biggest problem with casey is, that i don't see the same casey this season as last season; where's the casey who talks with bargnani about his old coach in italy and confirms that he will kick his ass just like him? he just talks soft and defends his players, i want the the old casey but not he new one, kick the new casey the f***k out

Shifty.py

12-12-2012 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmats7returns
(Post 719721)

We're on course to win 18 games this year!

No we're not
15 games have been on the road 1-14
7 games at home 3-4

It will even out

We suck but not that much
And no hope for top3 pick either

Metallikid

12-12-2012 06:40 AM

Quote:

Dontonio Wingfield

This can't be someone's actual name.

Toby

12-12-2012 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metallikid
(Post 719732)

This can't be someone's actual name.

He was a Blazer meng

Deez

12-12-2012 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shifty.py
(Post 719725)

No we're not
15 games have been on the road 1-14 7 games at home 3-4It will even out
We suck but not that much
And no hope for top3 pick either

We all forget about this due to panic.....and for the sake of one liners and zingers. You should post this 50 times a day on this board.

KoolAid

12-12-2012 07:52 AM

I posted this yesterday :cookie:

Bmats7returns

12-12-2012 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shifty.py
(Post 719725)

No we're not
15 games have been on the road 1-14
7 games at home 3-4

It will even out

We suck but not that much
And no hope for top3 pick either

That will probably be 3-7 after the next 3...

but we'll see.

LX

12-12-2012 08:13 AM

The biggest issue is that Casey promised that players would be held accountable, and he wouldn't look past any mistakes this season. That turned out to be almost entirely untrue. And it put him in a lose/lose situation.

What boggles my mind is how the status quo persists at this point, outside of changes forced upon the team by injuries.

Shifty.py

12-12-2012 08:17 AM

Do you want him to react on per posession basis? Or can you name a loss that was entirely accountable to any one player? Without whom we would be great and shiny?

Smitch did it, nobody liked it.

LX

12-12-2012 08:28 AM

Oh, I think it was the wrong approach for him to take when he's got three rookies coming in, and a mish mash of a roster still in play. It was the right approach for a real NBA team, which we may never be.

ollyaaa

12-12-2012 08:48 AM

I put 80% of the blame for this season on DC. He's probably the worst all -around coach/man manager I have ever seen.