This also better change quickly or the coach need to have the courage to make the change.

barkleynash

11-05-2012 11:52 AM

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Jballer, I agree with you here on all points. Don't forget Amir has also been very efficient. I wonder what Casey will do if it continues. I think he probably needs to go ahead and start Anderson. He gives them the best chance to win now, as he plays a really nice overall game on both ends of the floor. They must have another shooter with Derozen, who has played pretty well. Fields does not stretch the floor at all. If this continues he will probably be our amnesty case next summer.

I sometimes wonder if Bargs, Kleiza Calderon and Fields could land us Rudy Gay and and Darrell Arthur and Josh Selby

Yeah, I think Fields is going to be a one year wonder and pretty much untradeable, so he will be the amnesty clause. Anderson should be our starting 3 man right now anyway , as he is a better all-around player. Fields should be playing on the second unit anyway.

Bargs must get playing better in order to trade him, or get the most out of him and give him and val a chance to work together. Obviously 3 games is a pretty small sample size.

Right now, they have been the two most disappointing players to date.

I think Kleiza may actually be a guy we can give a go to as our starting 3 man. Anderson should get a shot first, and if that doesn't work out I would go with Kleiza to help stretch the floor and post up smaller threes.

I would like to see what type of chemistry val and Kleiza have together. The back-court is looking pretty good with Lowry and Derozen.

If bargs can get back to what he did for those few brief games last year, this team could get scary. If Lowry plays like an all-star and Derozen can keep up his improved all-around game we just need Bargs to get his shit together. It's not like he shouldn't be feeling Davis and Amir breathing down his neck. They are both deserving of more playing time.

b4ball

11-05-2012 05:03 PM

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Fields does not fit the elegibility requirements to become an amnestied player.

Jballer

11-06-2012 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by barkleynash

I think Kleiza may actually be a guy we can give a go to as our starting 3 man. Anderson should get a shot first, and if that doesn't work out I would go with Kleiza to help stretch the floor and post up smaller threes.

This +1 .. I am wondering what Kliza will bring.

Actually I really dont know what to project.

I mean he was hurt a lot of last year but then had a good Olympics. Olympics are a different game than the NBA. Dont know what the personal issues are but hope its all good for him; and he comes back steps up and pushes Fields into performance. Frankly any comptetion from the 3 is welcome.

Barges increase perfromance I have no doubt, especially on the scoring front. He is getting the touches - but as per the Brooklyn game all the touches were at 25 - 30 feet. That spot on the floor should be Demars.

I dont know if the offense is scripted this way to put Barges to the outside because Fields cant hit a shot - and Kliza isnt there - but I have to believe the offense is scripted to move Barges to the low post. Barges should be lethal (offensively - not rebounding) in no mans land at 9 feet from the rim in the low post quadrent.

I am getting tired of excuses; play better or bench him in favor of Davis.

neilio23

11-06-2012 02:32 PM

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It won't matter how poorly Landry plays.

The media will praise him for making "intangible" contributions, and "winning" plays, regardless of how he actually performs in a game.

Already in these first few games, Jack Armstrong has compared Landry with Shane Battier numerous times. I hope Dwayne Casey doesn't buy this bs.

Landry had a good rookie year. Despite his horrendous contract, he could make a useful contribution to this team if he could play up to his potential and be a solid role player.

From what I hear, Lowry is quite vocal, so I imagine he'll call people out. That's something the Raptor's team has lacked for many years - a vocal leader.

Himan12

11-06-2012 08:57 PM

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I caught some knick games of fields last year and all I saw was player with no confidence. Something broke him which is why I was real doubtful of him when he was signed, its not even the contract as I would have been against the raps signing him at all.

Hope he gains some confidence and turns it around if he can get back to that level he was playing at as a rookie we would have a damn fine player.

bokes15

11-06-2012 10:17 PM

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Today is the first NBA game i've been able to see all season. (go figure, the first game I get to watch my favorite player on the team goes down). But from what I saw, to borrow a phrase from Charles Barkley "lots of Tito's and no Michael" We have a pg in Lowry that pushes the pace, and we have guys that can catch and shoot or catch and dunk. BUT we still don't have wings that can create off the dribble. And we don't have that game changer that we can't count on consistently to draw double teams and make the game easier for the other players. As Himan said in the other thread, Lowry would be a great compliment to a Bosh or an all-star/superstar talent but on this kind of team he's a drop in the ocean being wasted really.

Himan12

11-06-2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bokes15

Today is the first NBA game i've been able to see all season. (go figure, the first game I get to watch my favorite player on the team goes down). But from what I saw, to borrow a phrase from Charles Barkley "lots of Tito's and no Michael" We have a pg in Lowry that pushes the pace, and we have guys that can catch and shoot or catch and dunk. BUT we still don't have wings that can create off the dribble. And we don't have that game changer that we can't count on consistently to draw double teams and make the game easier for the other players. As Himan said in the other thread, Lowry would be a great compliment to a Bosh or an all-star/superstar talent but on this kind of team he's a drop in the ocean being wasted really.

Yeah which is why I m hoping raps can grab josh smith or rudy gay. Having such a dynamic player, the raps really need an upgrade at sf or pf spots.

Otherwise lowry will probably head somewhere else if he doesnt get paid.

:facepalm When I initially saw that I was like wtf just happened. And the NBAtv guys claimed that the shot was influenced and that's why he missed so I just accepted that. But now after seeing it again in slow motion nobody even so much as took a swing a block. He literally just Kwame Brown'ed a wide open layup.

Beebo

11-07-2012 04:03 AM

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I didn't know you could be THAT bad and still play in the NBA :facepalm

Dudes like the SF version of Hoffa

Legends66NBA7

11-07-2012 04:19 AM

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Dudes like the SF version of Hoffa

I would honestly rather have Hoffa on the team over Fields right now.... I'm dead serious.