tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post6425372740711676333..comments2015-03-27T05:08:59.814-04:00Comments on Adventures in Autism: Dr. Koren Boggs Does Not Want To Talk About Her Idiotic StatementsGinger Taylorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04200286625735078479noreply@blogger.comBlogger92125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-26021937267375676602013-08-22T22:45:47.115-04:002013-08-22T22:45:47.115-04:00So turns out Artie... not so super stable of a guy...So turns out Artie... not so super stable of a guy. He is spamming the comments. So all done comments.<br /><br />Say night, night.Ginger Taylorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04200286625735078479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-26621480136813854192013-08-22T22:42:54.492-04:002013-08-22T22:42:54.492-04:00&quot;That&#39;s why I&#39;m harassing you or rath...&quot;That&#39;s why I&#39;m harassing you or rather reading you the riot act, because you deserve it little boy/girl. You wouldn&#39;t let an unruly child behave the way you have would you? Would you? It&#39;s your mental health that&#39;s in question here!&quot;<br /><br />Ginger, I do hope you are capturing this comments. He&#39;s admitting to harassing you. You can easily obtain his IP address and use these comments to file legal action against him.<br /><br />And Artie, he wouldn&#39;t let an unruly child the behave the way you have. Which is why he dismissed, then ignored you.<br /><br />&quot;It&#39;s just that his ranting was unworthy of my time or effort to respond to. I knew he wasn&#39;t interested in discussing the issues and only wanted to feel smart and important. I could tell otherwise, and I treated him accordingly.&quot;<br /><br />And you were 100% correct in doing so.provaxquackshttp://provaxquacks.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-16857811919482397022013-08-22T22:42:39.728-04:002013-08-22T22:42:39.728-04:00First Amendment, Taylor! I&#39;ll keep adding this...First Amendment, Taylor! I&#39;ll keep adding this until you leave it and I have oodles of patience and time! And if I am to be banned, ban Gambolpotty and Provax as well because they have been just as bad! Ban them, and I&#39;ll shut up.<br /><br />Gambolpotty, you are the child here. You are a coward and an idiot and won&#39;t defend yourself from rightful challenges. That is a perfect example of a lack of rationality. This isn&#39;t about seeking attention for me. This is about proper scrutiny, which you are running away from as fast as you can! That&#39;s why I&#39;m harassing you or rather reading you the riot act, because you deserve it little boy/girl. You wouldn&#39;t let an unruly child behave the way you have would you? Would you? It&#39;s your mental health that&#39;s in question here! You&#39;re the one who needs help, not me.<br /><br />Provaxquack, that is not rational no matter which way you slice it! AND it IS running away. Look out Usain Bolt!<br /><br />Seeking out a person&#39;s name for a lawful reason is not stalking. Yeah by the book it&#39;s legal to have an unvaccinated kid but that doesn&#39;t make it right!Artie Christouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08136633262836243743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-30459419285536863052013-08-22T22:41:46.724-04:002013-08-22T22:41:46.724-04:00First Amendment, Taylor! I&#39;ll keep adding this...First Amendment, Taylor! I&#39;ll keep adding this until you leave it and I have oodles of patience and time! And if I am to be banned, ban Gambolpotty and Provax as well because they have been just as bad! Ban them, and I&#39;ll shut up.<br /><br />Gambolpotty, you are the child here. You are a coward and an idiot and won&#39;t defend yourself from rightful challenges. That is a perfect example of a lack of rationality. This isn&#39;t about seeking attention for me. This is about proper scrutiny, which you are running away from as fast as you can! That&#39;s why I&#39;m harassing you or rather reading you the riot act, because you deserve it little boy/girl. You wouldn&#39;t let an unruly child behave the way you have would you? Would you? It&#39;s your mental health that&#39;s in question here! You&#39;re the one who needs help, not me.<br /><br />Provaxquack, that is not rational no matter which way you slice it! AND it IS running away. Look out Usain Bolt!<br /><br />Seeking out a person&#39;s name for a lawful reason is not stalking. Yeah by the book it&#39;s legal to have an unvaccinated kid but that doesn&#39;t make it right!Artie Christouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08136633262836243743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-22550122425085250642013-08-22T22:39:50.884-04:002013-08-22T22:39:50.884-04:00First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned,...First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned, ban Gambolpotty and Provax as well because they have been just as bad! Ban them, and I&#39;ll shut up. I&#39;ll keep adding this until you leave it and I have oodles of patience!<br /><br />Gambolpotty, you are the child here. You are a coward and an idiot and won&#39;t defend yourself from rightful challenges. That is a perfect example of a lack of rationality. This isn&#39;t about seeking attention for me. This is about proper scrutiny, which you are running away from as fast as you can! That&#39;s why I&#39;m harassing you or rather reading you the riot act, because you deserve it little boy/girl. You wouldn&#39;t let an unruly child behave the way you have would you? Would you? It&#39;s your mental health that&#39;s in question here!<br /><br />Provaxquack, that is not rational no matter which way you slice it! AND it IS running away. Look out Usain Bolt!<br /><br />Seeking out a person&#39;s name for a lawful reason is not stalking. Yeah by the book it&#39;s legal to have an unvaccinated kid but that doesn&#39;t make it right!Artie Christouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08136633262836243743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-61445161355559339632013-08-22T22:38:10.456-04:002013-08-22T22:38:10.456-04:00First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned,...First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned, ban Gambolpotty and Provax as well because they have been just as bad! Ban them, and I&#39;ll shut up. I&#39;ll keep adding this until you leave it and I have oodles of patience!<br /><br />Gambolpotty, you are the child here. You are a coward and an idiot and won&#39;t defend yourself from rightful challenges. That is a perfect example of a lack of rationality. This isn&#39;t about seeking attention for me. This is about proper scrutiny, which you are running away from as fast as you can! That&#39;s why I&#39;m harassing you or rather reading you the riot act, because you deserve it little boy/girl. You wouldn&#39;t let an unruly child behave the way you have would you? Would you? It&#39;s your mental health that&#39;s in question here!<br /><br />Provaxquack, that is not rational no matter which way you slice it! AND it IS running away. Look out Usain Bolt!<br /><br />Seeking out a person&#39;s name for a lawful reason is not stalking. Yeah by the book it&#39;s legal to have an unvaccinated kid but that doesn&#39;t make it right!Artie Christouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08136633262836243743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-48575810121463262432013-08-22T22:36:52.700-04:002013-08-22T22:36:52.700-04:00First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned,...First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned, ban Gambolpotty and Provax as well because they have been just as bad! Ban them, and I&#39;ll shut up. I&#39;ll keep adding this until you leave it and I have oodles of patience!<br /><br />Gambolpotty, you are the child here. You are a coward and an idiot and won&#39;t defend yourself from rightful challenges. That is a perfect example of a lack of rationality. This isn&#39;t about seeking attention for me. This is about proper scrutiny, which you are running away from as fast as you can! That&#39;s why I&#39;m harassing you or rather reading you the riot act, because you deserve it little boy/girl. You wouldn&#39;t let an unruly child behave the way you have would you? Would you? It&#39;s your mental health that&#39;s in question here!<br /><br />Provaxquack, that is not rational no matter which way you slice it! AND it IS running away. Look out Usain Bolt!<br /><br />Seeking out a person&#39;s name for a lawful reason is not stalking. Yeah by the book it&#39;s legal to have an unvaccinated kid but that doesn&#39;t make it right!Artie Christouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08136633262836243743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-71614583387983988412013-08-22T22:35:51.136-04:002013-08-22T22:35:51.136-04:00First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned,...First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned, ban Gambolpotty and Provax as well because they have been just as bad! Ban them, and I&#39;ll shut up. I&#39;ll keep adding this until you leave it and I have oodles of patience!<br /><br />Gambolpotty, you are the child here. You are a coward and an idiot and won&#39;t defend yourself from rightful challenges. That is a perfect example of a lack of rationality. This isn&#39;t about seeking attention for me. This is about proper scrutiny, which you are running away from as fast as you can! That&#39;s why I&#39;m harassing you or rather reading you the riot act, because you deserve it little boy/girl. You wouldn&#39;t let an unruly child behave the way you have would you? Would you? It&#39;s your mental health that&#39;s in question here!<br /><br />Provaxquack, that is not rational no matter which way you slice it! AND it IS running away. Look out Usain Bolt!<br /><br />Seeking out a person&#39;s name for a lawful reason is not stalking. Yeah by the book it&#39;s legal to have an unvaccinated kid but that doesn&#39;t make it right!Artie Christouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08136633262836243743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-43758546384841118722013-08-22T22:33:19.709-04:002013-08-22T22:33:19.709-04:00First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned,...First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned, ban Gambolpotty and Provax as well because they have been just as bad! Ban them, and I&#39;ll shut up. I&#39;ll keep adding this until you leave it and I have oodles of patience!<br /><br />Gambolpotty, you are the child here. You are a coward and an idiot and won&#39;t defend yourself from rightful challenges. That is a perfect example of a lack of rationality. This isn&#39;t about seeking attention for me. This is about proper scrutiny, which you are running away from as fast as you can! That&#39;s why I&#39;m harassing you, because you deserve it. You wouldn&#39;t let an unruly child behave the way you have would you? Would you? It&#39;s your mental health that&#39;s in question here!<br /><br />Provaxquack, that is not rational no matter which way you slice it! AND it IS running away. Look out Usain Bolt!<br /><br />Seeking out a person&#39;s name for a lawful reason is not stalking. Yeah by the book it&#39;s legal to have an unvaccinated kid but that doesn&#39;t make it right!Artie Christouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08136633262836243743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-78580354357158852982013-08-22T22:31:10.049-04:002013-08-22T22:31:10.049-04:00First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned,...First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned, ban Gambolpotty and Provax as well because they have been just as bad! Ban them, and I&#39;ll shut up. I&#39;ll keep adding this until you leave it and I have oodles of patience!<br /><br />Gambolpotty, you are the child here. You are a coward and an idiot and won&#39;t defend yourself from rightful challenges. That is a perfect example of a lack of rationality. This isn&#39;t about seeking attention for me. This is about proper scrutiny, which you are running away from as fast as you can! Provaxquack, that is not rational no matter which way you slice it! AND it IS running away. Look out Usain Bolt!<br /><br />Seeking out a person&#39;s name for a lawful reason is not stalking. Yeah by the book it&#39;s legal to have an unvaccinated kid but that doesn&#39;t make it right!Artie Christouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08136633262836243743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-67663284464122675722013-08-22T22:31:02.835-04:002013-08-22T22:31:02.835-04:00Oh, dear. The poor child is ranting again. Oh well...Oh, dear. The poor child is ranting again. Oh well, I thought he was through with us...guess not.<br /><br />Only one other person has been banned from this site, and that was John Best? That&#39;s some pretty disreputable company to be in. Also, note that continuing to comment after she has told him to stop doing so is a form of harassment, and she can take legal action if she so wishes. I hope she does. His words and actions are those of someone who is deeply disturbed.<br /><br />I was never running away from his comments, the poor child. It&#39;s just that his ranting was unworthy of my time or effort to respond to. I knew he wasn&#39;t interested in discussing the issues and only wanted to feel smart and important. I could tell otherwise, and I treated him accordingly.<br /><br />I will say that I am truly concerned about his health and well-being. Someone that angry is bound to hurt himself or others, and I would feel absolutely dreadful if something bad were to happen to him or because of him. I do hope he gets some professional help.Gambolputtyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07825113789255161302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-23131269828483480162013-08-22T22:28:48.184-04:002013-08-22T22:28:48.184-04:00First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned,...First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned, ban Gambolpotty and Provax as well because they have been just as bad! Ban them, and I&#39;ll shut up. I&#39;ll keep adding this until you leave it.<br /><br />Gambolpotty, you are the child here. You are a coward and an idiot and won&#39;t defend yourself from rightful challenges. That is a perfect example of a lack of rationality. This isn&#39;t about seeking attention for me. This is about proper scrutiny, which you are running away from as fast as you can! Provaxquack, that is not rational no matter which way you slice it! AND it IS running away. Look out Usain Bolt!<br /><br />Seeking out a person&#39;s name for a lawful reason is not stalking. Yeah by the book it&#39;s legal to have an unvaccinated kid but that doesn&#39;t make it right!Artie Christouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08136633262836243743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-29230540371036961342013-08-22T22:27:52.809-04:002013-08-22T22:27:52.809-04:00First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned,...First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned, ban Gambolpotty and Provax as well because they have been just as bad! Ban them, and I&#39;ll shut up. I&#39;ll keep adding this until you leave it.<br /><br />Gambolpotty, you are the child here. You are a coward and an idiot and won&#39;t defend yourself from rightful challenges. That is a perfect example of a lack of rationality. This isn&#39;t about seeking attention for me. This is about proper scrutiny, which you are running away from as fast as you can! Provaxquack, that is not rational no matter which way you slice it! AND it IS running away. Look out Usain Bolt!<br /><br />Seeking out a person&#39;s name for a lawful reason is not stalking. Yeah by the book it&#39;s legal to have an unvaccinated kid but that doesn&#39;t make it right!Artie Christouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08136633262836243743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-45652190684865842422013-08-22T22:26:25.261-04:002013-08-22T22:26:25.261-04:00First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned,...First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned, ban Gambolpotty and Provax as well because they have been just as bad! Ban them, and I&#39;ll shut up. I&#39;ll keep adding this until you leave it.<br /><br />Gambolpotty, you are the child here. You are a coward and an idiot and won&#39;t defend yourself from rightful challenges. That is a perfect example of a lack of rationality. This isn&#39;t about seeking attention for me. This is about proper scrutiny, which you are running away from as fast as you can! Provaxquack, that is not rational no matter which way you slice it! AND it IS running away. Look out Usain Bolt!<br /><br />Seeking out a person&#39;s name for a lawful reason is not stalking. Yeah by the book it&#39;s legal to have an unvaccinated kid but that doesn&#39;t make it right!Artie Christouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08136633262836243743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-71298231501541901172013-08-22T22:24:17.779-04:002013-08-22T22:24:17.779-04:00First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned,...First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned, ban Gambolpotty and Provax as well because they have been just as bad! Ban them, and I&#39;ll shut up. I&#39;ll keep adding this until you leave it.<br /><br />Gambolpotty, you are the child here. You are a coward and an idiot and won&#39;t defend yourself from rightful challenges. That is a perfect example of a lack of rationality. This isn&#39;t about seeking attention for me. This is about proper scrutiny, which you are running away from as fast as you can! Provaxquack, that is not rational no matter which way you slice it! AND it IS running away. Look out Usain Bolt!<br /><br />Seeking out a person&#39;s name for a lawful reason is not stalking. Yeah by the book it&#39;s legal to have an unvaccinated kid but that doesn&#39;t make it right!Artie Christouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08136633262836243743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-38640235424714014332013-08-22T22:23:07.059-04:002013-08-22T22:23:07.059-04:00First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned,...First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned, ban Gambolpotty and Provax as well because they have been just as bad! Ban them, and I&#39;ll shut up. I&#39;ll keep adding this until you leave it.<br /><br />Gambolpotty, you are the child here. You are a coward and an idiot and won&#39;t defend yourself from rightful challenges. That is a perfect example of a lack of rationality. This isn&#39;t about seeking attention for me. This is about proper scrutiny, which you are running away from as fast as you can! Provaxquack, that is not rational no matter which way you slice it! AND it IS running away. Look out Usain Bolt!<br /><br />Seeking out a person&#39;s name for a lawful reason is not stalking. Yeah by the book it&#39;s legal to have an unvaccinated kid but that doesn&#39;t make it right!Artie Christouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08136633262836243743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-14425171343592379632013-08-22T22:14:51.777-04:002013-08-22T22:14:51.777-04:00First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned,...First Amendment, Taylor! And if I am to be banned, ban Gambolpotty and Provax as well because they have been just as bad! Ban them, and I&#39;ll shut up. I&#39;ll keep adding this until you leave it.<br /><br />Gambolpotty, you are the child here. You are a coward and an idiot and won&#39;t defend yourself from rightful challenges. That is a perfect example of a lack of rationality. This isn&#39;t about seeking attention for me. This is about proper scrutiny, which you are running away from as fast as you can! Provaxquack, that is not rational no matter which way you slice it! AND it IS running away. Look out Usain Bolt!<br /><br />Seeking out a person&#39;s name for a lawful reason is not stalking. Yeah by the book it&#39;s legal to have an unvaccinated kid but that doesn&#39;t make it right!Artie Christouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08136633262836243743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-46077705518119662252013-08-22T21:46:58.930-04:002013-08-22T21:46:58.930-04:00Dude!! Holy crap, that is one crazy individual!
&...Dude!! Holy crap, that is one crazy individual!<br /><br />&quot;Seeking out a person&#39;s name for a lawful reason is not stalking.&quot;<br /><br />And what&#39;s your lawful reason? Because someone wouldn&#39;t give your vacuous mumblings attention? OMG...how freakin&#39; childish can you be? A rightful challenge? <br /><br />http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3uny63/<br /><br />You do know it&#39;s perfectly legal in the United States to have a child who is partially or even completely unvaccinated, don&#39;t you? No, clearly you don&#39;t...<br /><br />&quot;Gambolpotty, you are the child here. You are a coward and an idiot and won&#39;t defend yourself from rightful challenges. That is a perfect example of a lack of rationality. This isn&#39;t about seeking attention for me. This is about proper scrutiny, which you are running away from as fast as you can!&quot; <br /><br />He&#39;s been quite rational, actually. Compare that to your rabid, spittle-flecked, hateful explosion, and he is the very modicum of civility and rationality. There was no running away involved, you complete and utter cretin...he was dismissing your childish attempts at gaining attention; he was ignoring your drooling diatribes as inconsequential. But the way you blew up and became unhinged is an awesome thing to behold and completely ruins any credibility you had.<br /><br />Watch out, Ginger...he&#39;s declaring a jihad upon us. I am positively quaking; absolutely terrified, I am. Yup...<br /><br />Man...I&#39;m saving this one so I can post it on my facebook page and laugh about it.provaxquackshttp://provaxquacks.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-56744393469735246742013-08-22T19:54:44.770-04:002013-08-22T19:54:44.770-04:00And with that Artie... you are now banned from com...And with that Artie... you are now banned from commenting on my blog.<br /><br />Congratulations. <br /><br />In Nine years of blogging I have had to ban only one other person, none other than John Best, for unacceptable behavior here. And that was, also after being warned to be more respectful, choosing to threaten people.<br /><br />Do not comment here again.Ginger Taylorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04200286625735078479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-4485625808353447402013-08-22T19:41:05.704-04:002013-08-22T19:41:05.704-04:00Wow! What a spectacular melt-down. Truly epic. He&...Wow! What a spectacular melt-down. Truly epic. He&#39;s like a little boy stomping his feet because he&#39;s not getting his way. Magnificent!<br /><br />I have nothing to say at all whatsoever; his immaturity, paranoia, and lack of anything even resembling rationality is a true testament to what it means to be anti-science. Well done, Artie...well done.<br /><br />When describing why so many are turning away from vaccinations, I&#39;ll make sure to point people to your comment here.<br /><br />Child, I don&#39;t have to respond to your juvenile and demands for attention. I told you that before. I had you pegged from the get-go; you have no interest in rational discussion, so why should I give you the attention you crave? Poor lad...<br /><br />Oh, and good luck finding out my identity. I&#39;ll also be sure to take a screenshot of this very threatening comment for posterity, and I encourage PQ to do so as well. I do not have children, but if PQ does, and they find out you&#39;re stalking them, this can be used in the legal proceedings.<br /><br />Au revoir. Auf Wiedersehen. Sayounara.<br /><br />Wacka, this the sort of &quot;ally&quot; you can do without. You, at least, seem somewhat reasonable. This child, though...wow!Gambolputtyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07825113789255161302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-84333735182661974472013-08-22T19:03:41.529-04:002013-08-22T19:03:41.529-04:00To Provaxquacks,
You&#39;re an idiot. No clue. Wa...To Provaxquacks,<br /><br />You&#39;re an idiot. No clue. Wacka Dawson called you out well and truly and all you can do is squeal from an impossible position and dig yourself in deeper in the process, and you&#39;re too stupid to see it happening! You want to call me out on perosnal attacks? I call you out on the same thing and I&#39;m only doing it because it&#39;s a language, and probably the only language you understand! And even Ginger saw what was going on and backed up!<br /><br />But now you lot are admitting that this ISN&#39;T about Autism! Oh hooray! About fricking time! It&#39;s about &quot;autism like symptoms&quot; that Wacka said isn&#39;t Autism. And yet you and Gambolpotty and still trying to make the connection! Get with the program, dumbasses! The reports that don&#39;t mention Autism are not relevant and they don&#39;t even mention &quot;autism like symptoms&quot;! That&#39;s why I demanded an explanation for that one listing I repeated, twice, and you two decided &quot;Uh Uh don&#39;t want to know about it&quot;!<br /><br />Idiot. Coward. Doesn&#39;t understand.<br /><br />I&#39;m through with both of you failures. You&#39;re a disgrace to disease prevention and won&#39;t take it seriously preferring lies that end up killing kids and seniors. I&#39;ve never heard of the three people Wacka named but if they&#39;re anything like you two I don&#39;t want to know!<br /><br />As of right now, I&#39;m making it my business to find out who you two are, and if you are parents and haven&#39;t vaccinated your kids I&#39;ll have your local DCS at your door in an instant!Artie Christouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08136633262836243743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-45963857945261521812013-08-22T11:21:26.322-04:002013-08-22T11:21:26.322-04:00WD,
We actually do kind of agree, &quot;The law c...WD,<br /><br />We actually do kind of agree, &quot;The law court is the last place to settle a scientific argument.&quot; <br /><br />When you have to fighting factions, and at least one has entrenched self interests, the final place to settle matters is in the courts.<br /><br />In the US we have a public health system that is a vaccine patent holder AND their own judge and jury. They are NEVER going to admit the damage being done, because they are functionally a vaccine company that gets to set public health policy, recommend vaccines and the police themselves.<br /><br />They CANNOT be taken to court to have their claims tested, because they passed laws exempting themselves from being sued.<br /><br />IF this matter had been in the US courts decades ago, where it belonged, we would not be in this debate today. US HHS is putting out &quot;science&quot; that is not only junk, but is being published, in a few cases, by a man under indictment for 22 counts of fraud and money laundering.<br /><br />And few in mainstream medicine have the courage to demand that this junk science be retracted. Those that do speak out are punished.<br /><br />That is when the courts are necessary.<br /><br />But before that should be earnest scientific discussion. Which again... the medical community does not want to have, because it indicts their products and practices (including, but not limited to, vaccination) in the autism epidemic.<br /><br />No one is more resistant to the idea that they are causing harm. See Semmelweis Complex.<br /><br />When those earnest scientists/medical professionals are ready to talk again on a level playing field, the debate will begin in earnest, but don&#39;t see that they are ready for that yet.<br /><br />In the mean time, nope... not removing research that supports the vaccine/autism link because you don&#39;t understand it. <br /><br />Because, bottom line, for the people who are actually USING this research in daily life with children with and autism diagnosis, IT FRIGGING WORKS!!! It is amazing! My son is half way recovered and I am thrilled!<br /><br />So please... you must understand that you are operating in an echo chamber that has no intention of ever even trying to see what is happening to children with vaccine induced encephalopathy that gets diagnosed as &quot;autism&quot;. <br /><br />If you really want to understand this, look at it through the this lens. Vaccines can cause.... mitochondrial dysfunction, autoimmune states, GI damage, brain inflammation, metabolic problems... and we see all these things in children given an &quot;autism&quot; diagnosis. When we treat those conditions, the &quot;autism&quot; abates. <br /><br />The position we are taking is that &quot;autism&quot; in the medical sense, is a junk diagnosis. These are sick children whose brain is affected, and are given an archaic diagnosis of &quot;autism,&quot; because the medical community refuses to accept the huge body of research that I have listed. <br /><br />Literally... the US HHS Vaccine Injury Table lists the symptoms of autism, then calls it vaccine encephalopathy, but no docs have ever read it, so when children with textbook vaccine encephalopathy walk into their offices, they have been trained to call it &quot;autism&quot; and tell the parents it has nothing to do with vaccines.<br /><br />If you are earnest, read the book I suggested, then come back to the research list.Ginger Taylorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04200286625735078479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-70888181244968363132013-08-22T10:44:58.333-04:002013-08-22T10:44:58.333-04:00A quick response, and then I will leave you be.
T...A quick response, and then I will leave you be.<br /><br />The issue here that provaxquacks pointed out is that there are some children who are experiencing reactions to vaccination that are causing some pretty serious problems. Things like encepalopathy and brain damage. Sometimes, as in the case of Hannah Poling, this brain damage looks very similar to autism. But instead of addressing this, you say &quot;brain damage is not autism,&quot; which is not what is being argued here. What is being argued is that there are cases of vaccines causing encepalopathy and brain damage that look an awful lot like autism. Do you understand that? Does that make sense to you?<br /><br />The comment regarding Gorski shows the ridiculousness of the Body Count site and how the same logic could be applied in Gorski&#39;s case. The fact that you deliberately chose to misinterpret that comment again shows that you are only interested in insulting and belittling anyone who disagrees with you.<br /><br />In my opinion, my interpretation of the &quot;ignorant scientific savagery&quot; applies to your deification of science and your unscientific behaviours, not your failure to explain how these are common sense and simple logic. But, I don&#39;t wish to put words in his (or her) mouth.<br /><br />Finally, it isn&#39;t worth my time, and I&#39;ve explained why it isn&#39;t worth my time. You aren&#39;t here to discuss the science; you are here to bully and belittle those who disagree with you (evident with such comments as &quot;You are the most unhappy creature,&quot; which, as PQ demonstrated, is an attempt to make him/her appear to be less than human). As PQ mentioned, nothing will change your mind, so why bother?<br /><br />I will say, however, that your response to Ginger is most reasonable. If you had approached this conversation previously in this way, then the conversation would have likely been much different. However, you have shown your true colours, and I just can&#39;t find it in me to respond in any other way than amused ambivalence.Gambolputtyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07825113789255161302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-2094232022671054542013-08-22T10:22:07.675-04:002013-08-22T10:22:07.675-04:00Provaxquacks,
You are the sort of &quot;ally&quot...Provaxquacks,<br /><br />You are the sort of &quot;ally&quot; Ms Taylor can do without. To begin with, &quot;autism-like symptoms&quot; is not Autism. It never has been and it never will be. So the connection you attempt to make with brain damage is not applicable. This also applies to neurological damage (it&#39;s the same thing). Do you understand that? Does that make sense to you?<br /><br />I find it amusing that you would compare a public attention hound like Ms McCarthy to a single blog owner like David Gorski. Ms McCarthy has recieved much wider media coverage than Dr Gorski ever has in his dreams, and you have the nerve to claim that Dr Gorski scared just as many people?? That is an incredible assertion that has no basis in logic or practical fact.<br /><br />I am also amused and curious as to how I am engaging in ignorant scientific savagery when my arguments are all about common sense and logic and by my own admission not science, because I don&#39;t need science to prove my point to you. If you wish metaphorically put your fingers in your ears that is your problem and not mine.<br /><br />Gambolputty,<br /><br />I find it interesting that you claim that responding to Artie&#39;s pleas and indeed my echo was not worth your time, and yet Ms Taylor has taken the time as I have taken note of above. So what is your excuse to not do as she has done? Your assumptions are an attempt to bully me and they will not work.Wacka Dawsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10487154678270931228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-6538107736483389712013-08-22T10:12:16.020-04:002013-08-22T10:12:16.020-04:00Ms Taylor,
You said &quot;the debate should not b...Ms Taylor,<br /><br />You said &quot;the debate should not be settled on the internet, but earnest and respectful exchanges in medical journals and open debates between researchers... and of course in the civil court system, the who point of which is to vet these things carefully where real conflict occurs.&quot;<br /><br />I do not agree. The law court is the last place to settle a scientific argument, because science evolves and the law does not due to precedents.<br /><br />I do take note however of your desire to take this debate off the Internet and into proper venues. The Internet is part of the problem and certain individuals inhabit the Internet who, whilst they may be on your side on several points, are detrimental to your cause. I have come across one by the name of Oliver Canby, who I have written a blog about (and I should get back to that one of these days). I understand that you have had dealings with another by the name of John Best. Here in Australia we have a person named Meryl Dorey, who is gaining herself a real life reputation of being quite unstable in her presentation of her views and unlike you will not pay any heed to any reasonable challenges to her views.<br /><br />I do recommend when you review your papers that you remove the ones that do not mention vaccines or Autism. I don&#39;t think that issue affected all of them as I recall so you still have some material to work from. However I wish you luck in getting the attention of the scientific community as no matter what, they regard people like yourself as harmless cranks best ignored. Having said that, if you are able to gain a credible base that they can&#39;t ignore that would be a different matter.Wacka Dawsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10487154678270931228noreply@blogger.com