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This is the extent of my interest, so I won't be collecting data. Like Brewer suggests, who cares, just try to get as much as we can for our own accounts and the accounts of our families. Après nous, le deluge.

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Two of my children also had to take the TOEFL. I think a fair chunk of US born and raised college kids couldn't pass it.

Rich, working with people that are motivated to learn English can be very rewarding. I hope this is a positive experience for you.

I think you are correct about this. I think the same can be said of the citizenship test folks have to take. Many years ago I worked for an immigration attorney, and many of our clients were studying for the citizenship exam. I remember seeing the questions, and being very glad I didn't have to pass the test!

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