You are obviously the one who has issues with the meaning of words. EVIDENCE is only EVIDENCE if it APPLIES.

Right. And gun violence in other rich, Western countries applies.

You can argue that it applies poorly, but if you're actually trying to argue that it doesn't apply at all, then you're out to sea. There is nothing that makes other rich, Western nations completely inapplicable to our conversations.

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What you presented does not meet this standard therefore it is NOT evidence. Seriously, how do you not know the meaning of the word???

I presented you data in a proof of my case. Just because you don't consider the statistics I've presented as definitive, they are still verifiable and supportive of proving my case.

This happens all the time in law. People will present evidence of their case, and even though the other side does not consider their evidence to be definitive and settle the matter, it's still very much evidence.

You're just wrong, man. Embrace the warm shower of truth.

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Burden of proof is on YOU. Show me how it DOES apply.

What do you need to see? What standards, to you, establish comparable cultures?

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I at least have first hand knowledge that informs me otherwise. You on the other hand have nothing.

Try this on for size:

You're lying about all the conversations you claimed to have had, though. And you know I can't prove it, and you know you can't prove it, so you're just inventing these conversations and claiming that they count. I on the other hand, have spoken with multiple American ambassadors to Austrailia on several occasions and they've personally assured me that I have a definitive understanding of their people.

Neither one of us can prove what we've personally gone through, period, on this forum.

Personal stories mean jack shit on an internet message board. Wake up and smell the roses.

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Ah, you assume what I do and don't know about you. Where is your proof to back that up?