I don't think for one minute that IDS resigned because he disagreed with the policies. Nadine Dorries is all over Twitter saying that she is furious because she was going to vote against the disability cuts (if you believe that you'll believe anything) but IDS cornered her and was absolutely furious about it, told her if she did she'd be letting him down as it was HIS proposal. I think it is far more likely that he is going because of what is about to come out about the failures of universal credit. He has been fighting in the courts to stop it being put in the public domain, but has yet again lost the case. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ids-loses-legal-challenge-to-keep-universal-credit-101013025.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw

sassy wrote:-I don't think for one minute that IDS resigned because he disagreed with the policies.

I agree. There are several feasible explanations for Iain Duncan Smith's sudden resignation, but compassion for the sick and disabled is not one of them. It’s more likely that he was angry that after the cabinet had agreed to the latest round of cuts to disability payments, Downing Street appears to be backtracking on them. And as you’ve said, he's just lost the final legal challenge to keeping secret all the problems with his universal credit fiasco.

There are other possible reasons for his resignation, but of course all of this is just conjecture. It’s long been known that there is personal animosity between Duncan Smith and Osborne, which is almost inevitable (forgive the oxymoron!) since both are egomaniacs and psychopaths, as Will Black’s book helps to explain:-

We all saw the arrogant and insensitive way in which Cameron behaved on the day after the Scottish independence referendum – you Scots have voted to stay, but don’t expect to have any say in the UK government. Iain Duncan Smith may be calculating that if the June referendum results in us staying in the EU, Cameron may well clear all the Europhobes out of his government. (I note that the new man at the DWP is a Europhile.) If the vote is to leave, and Cameron is forced out, Duncan Smith is probably hoping for a big role if the odious Boris Johnson becomes PM.

"The last act is the greatest treason, to do the right deed for the wrong reason." (T. S. Eliot)

I'm not sure how international law works, for the despicable Iain Dumkopf Schmidt to give up his office, he must be running scared.We know either he or his department are being taken to court by the EU, perhaps in his pea-like brain he thinks that by buggering off someone else will have to take the Flak and all of the responsibly of each and every dishonest and cruel act he put through Parliament

“This is the secretary of state who has wasted so much money on failed policies that the government is able to claim - entirely truthfully - that the money being spent on disabled people has gone up, even though not a single penny has gone to disabled people, while countless billions have been lavished on IT systems that don't work and a benefit reform that will never be implemented.

This is the man who as leader of the Conservative Party mistook a spoof poster – ‘It rains less under a Conservative government’ - for the real thing, happily posing underneath it. This is the man who Osborne described as "not clever enough" after watching him present on his welfare reforms in the last government. This is the man who, despite having been the longest-serving secretary of state at the Department for Work and Pensions, leaves it having implemented nothing and done nothing.”

Never ever forget that ODS is the vile tory who rejoiced at putting the N into cuts.Squirming and wheedling his way out of admitting guilt - but he cannot rewrite history and the electorate - particularly when it comes to the disabled getting hammered whilst the tories gave themselves an 11% payrise, have long memories

It would appear that we here in America have much in common with themethod of political dirty tricks and late night pay raises > > >

Congress Votes Itself a Pay RaiseSalary will jump by $3,400 a year in 2004http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/agencies/a/raise4congress.htmWith a $480 billion deficit, the escalating cost of the war in Iraq, and a stagnant economy, Congress should be curbing spending, not lining their pockets at our expense."In the House of Representatives, Rep. Jim Matheson's (D-Utah, 2nd) motion to bring the pay raise to a separate vote was rejected 240-173. The Senate must still pass the bill and it must then be signed by President Bush before the pay raises can take effect. Individual members are free to refuse their pay increases, and some choose to do so.Congress has now voted itself a total of $16,700 in raises over the last six years. Since 1990, congressional pay has increased from $98,400 to $154,700 in 2003.

And since it became a republican ran House and Senate, they've done this twice --- at a midnight hour when there aren't the number of 'John Q Public' hanging around to give them grief!

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I wasn't sure at first that IDS's hissy fit departure had much to do with the EU but now all the Tories backing him are pro Brexit and all those against are anti. So, as Ivan says, the scenario could be: Cameron and Osborne out after the referendum (Leave vote or even a close Remain one), Boris Johnson PM and a top job for IDS (although I'm scared to think what that might be). The Tories campaign at the next general election to leave the EU (if we haven't already). If they win, no need for another referendum. Tory civil war = any chance they can all lose? And they're going to need a lot of pineapples.

The former work and pensions secretary, who quit the cabinet in March, used a speech to explain why he thought a vote to leave the EU in the coming referendum would be a force for good for the poorest in society.

The Richmond Park by-election result was noted in Brussels, where the chief Brexit negotiator, Guy Verhofstadt, said: “Europe is watching and we are proud”, triggering an angry exchange with the former cabinet minister Iain Duncan Smith.

The Brexit-supporting MP said the official should “mind his own bloody business”, adding “how dare an unelected apparatchik comment on an election first and foremost”. Verhofstadt tweeted in reply: “Actually, Iain Duncan Smith, I was elected by my constituents with more than half a million votes”.