Re: [News] Another School Turns to Free Software - Linux

This is a discussion on Re: [News] Another School Turns to Free Software - Linux ; Adam Albright wrote:
>Of course Frank never lets facts get in the way of his obvious hatred
>of all things Linux which itself proves Frank is bigoted, racist, foul
>mouth little turd that we just loves to kick around for ...

Re: [News] Another School Turns to Free Software

Adam Albright wrote:
>Of course Frank never lets facts get in the way of his obvious hatred
>of all things Linux which itself proves Frank is bigoted, racist, foul
>mouth little turd that we just loves to kick around for the heck of it
>because you can bet the farm this retard is wrong 99% of the time
>regardless the topic.

Re: [News] Another School Turns to Free Software

Verily I say unto thee, that Rick spake thusly:
> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:04:48 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>> You want to because you are a radical with an agenda. The guy using
>> Photoshop is an artist who wants to earn a living.

Prove that he can't earn a living with Free Software.

IMO you and your imaginary artist friend are simply bigots, which makes
your assertion that I am a "radical" quite hypocritical.
> Yeah. All those people that have pirated Photoshop are professional
> artists.

Nearly everyone I know who uses Photoshop is using an unlicensed copy.
After Windows itself, it's probably the No2 "pirated" software.
>> Think of it this way, you are hanging a picture on a wall. Do you
>> really need a $150.00 hammer with a carbon fiber handle? Would you
>> even know the difference between that one or the $3.99 Dollar
>> Heaven Special?
>>
>> Probably not.
>>
>> A person who is a professional carpenter will though which is why
>> he will more than likely have a much higher grade ($$$$$$$) of
>> tools than you will.

It's a very naive outlook to make a directly proportional correlation
between price and quality, especially when what one is paying for is the
fictitious element of Intellectual Property delivered in a facsimile
copy (i.e. a commercial license for proprietary software).

Such things have zero inherent value, and indeed /no/ products have any
inherent value beyond material costs. The marked-up prices we pay for
the goods we buy are determined by the number of intermediaries used to
deliver those products to consumers, and market research used to
determine the maximum price that can be squeezed out of consumers before
they complain and go to a competing product.

The concept of monetary value is, much like the concept of "Intellectual
Property", purely fictitious.

IMHO the couple of extra features in Photoshop are simply not worth over
a thousand dollars ... to me or anyone else, and losing my Freedom is
not worth even an additional /penny/.

Re: [News] Another School Turns to Free Software

Homer writes:
> Verily I say unto thee, that Rick spake thusly:
>> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:04:48 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
>>> You want to because you are a radical with an agenda. The guy using
>>> Photoshop is an artist who wants to earn a living.
>
> Prove that he can't earn a living with Free Software.
>

The proof is that the professionals choose to pay for Photoshop you
raving idiot.

Re: [News] Another School Turns to Free Software

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:34:44 +0100, Homer wrote:
> Verily I say unto thee, that Rick spake thusly:
>> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:04:48 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
>>> You want to because you are a radical with an agenda. The guy using
>>> Photoshop is an artist who wants to earn a living.
>
> Prove that he can't earn a living with Free Software.

He probably can.
Why he would want to is another reason.

It's like having to frame a house 8 hours a day with a $1.99 hammer.
> IMO you and your imaginary artist friend are simply bigots, which makes
> your assertion that I am a "radical" quite hypocritical.

You're a radical nut [Homer].
Your rantings are more than enough to substantiate that claim.
>> Yeah. All those people that have pirated Photoshop are professional
>> artists.
>
> Nearly everyone I know who uses Photoshop is using an unlicensed copy.
> After Windows itself, it's probably the No2 "pirated" software.

You are obviously hanging around with the wrong friends.
Oh well, the apples don't fall far from the tree.

BTW why aren't they using Gimp?

>>> Think of it this way, you are hanging a picture on a wall. Do you
>>> really need a $150.00 hammer with a carbon fiber handle? Would you
>>> even know the difference between that one or the $3.99 Dollar
>>> Heaven Special?
>>>
>>> Probably not.
>>>
>>> A person who is a professional carpenter will though which is why
>>> he will more than likely have a much higher grade ($$$$$$$) of
>>> tools than you will.
>
> It's a very naive outlook to make a directly proportional correlation
> between price and quality, especially when what one is paying for is the
> fictitious element of Intellectual Property delivered in a facsimile
> copy (i.e. a commercial license for proprietary software).

It must have taken you am hour to come up with that paragraph of paranoia.
Look, people want to get work done.
They use the best tool, this is even more so for professionals.
Linux or Gimp is obviously NOT the best tool or people would be using it.

> Such things have zero inherent value, and indeed /no/ products have any
> inherent value beyond material costs. The marked-up prices we pay for
> the goods we buy are determined by the number of intermediaries used to
> deliver those products to consumers, and market research used to
> determine the maximum price that can be squeezed out of consumers before
> they complain and go to a competing product.

Linux is free..
So why aren't people using it?

> The concept of monetary value is, much like the concept of "Intellectual
> Property", purely fictitious.

Tell that to Mark Kent:

"At BT Global, our crown jewels are the services we supply to our
customers. With jNetX we own the intellectual property for our services,
allowing us to evolve the services as and when required."

Re: [News] Another School Turns to Free Software

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:06:05 +0200, Hadron wrote:
> Homer writes:
>
>> Verily I say unto thee, that Rick spake thusly:
>>> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:04:48 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>
>>>> You want to because you are a radical with an agenda. The guy using
>>>> Photoshop is an artist who wants to earn a living.
>>
>> Prove that he can't earn a living with Free Software.
>>
>
> The proof is that the professionals choose to pay for Photoshop you
> raving idiot.

Re: [News] Another School Turns to Free Software

Hadron wrote:
> Homer writes:
>
>> Verily I say unto thee, that Rick spake thusly:
>>> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:04:48 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>> You want to because you are a radical with an agenda. The guy using
>>>> Photoshop is an artist who wants to earn a living.
>> Prove that he can't earn a living with Free Software.
>>
>
> The proof is that the professionals choose to pay for Photoshop you
> raving idiot.

.... including, of course, the professionals using FilmGimp/Cinepaint.

Re: Another School Turns to Free Software

On Jun 2, 7:07*pm, "Canuck57" wrote:
> "Moshe Goldfarb." wrote in message
>
> news:89lnj8n77a38.11mpq1ebngtzj.dlg@40tude.net...
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:19:34 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
> >>| John Nash, network manager and head of ICT for SIA, said: "This academic
> >>| year, rather than using proprietary software, what we've done is be
> >>slightly
> >>| different and use things like the GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program)
> >>| instead of Photoshop, Scribus for desktop publishing and InkScape, which
> >>is a
> >>| full, scalable vector graphics program."
>
> > Yea, that will look great on a resume .
>
> > I can see it now:
>
> > Interviewer: "Do you have any Photoshop experience?"
>
> > Job Applicant: " Well I've been using Gimp"
>
> > Interviewer: " You don't seem like a Gimp to me. Why are you so hard on
> > yourself?"
>
> > Job Applicant: "No, no no. I didn't say I *am* a Gimp, I said I *use*
> > Gimp.
>
> > It's a *GNU* program.
>
> > Interviewer: Oh I see. So it's *new*? What happened to the old version?
>
> > Well leave your resume with the secretary and we will be in touch.
>
> Or it could go....
>
> Interviewer: Hey, can you teach us?
>
> Job Applicant: Yep, no problem.
>
> Interviewer: When can you start?

Interviewer.. - you say its Free!?

Job Applicant: Yep,

Interviewer.. - And it does virtyally Everythig a $600 Copy of
photoshop will..

Job Applicant: Yep; I can save you a Bunch of dough.. !

Interviewer.. - so when you can you start !
-

Re: Another School Turns to Free Software

>"harvey" wrote in message
>news:fb4b01a6-05f7-4b9d-978e-e7a6ae8c38bb@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>"Interviewer.. - you say its Free!?
>"Job Applicant: Yep,
>"Interviewer.. - And it does virtyally Everythig a $600 Copy of
>"photoshop will..
>"Job Applicant: Yep; I can save you a Bunch of dough.. !
>"Interviewer.. - so when you can you start !
>"-

Re: Another School Turns to Free Software

On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:38:42 -0700 (PDT), harvey wrote:
> On Jun 2, 7:07*pm, "Canuck57" wrote:
>> "Moshe Goldfarb." wrote in message
>>
>> news:89lnj8n77a38.11mpq1ebngtzj.dlg@40tude.net...
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:19:34 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>>>| John Nash, network manager and head of ICT for SIA, said: "This academic
>>>>| year, rather than using proprietary software, what we've done is be
>>>>slightly
>>>>| different and use things like the GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program)
>>>>| instead of Photoshop, Scribus for desktop publishing and InkScape, which
>>>>is a
>>>>| full, scalable vector graphics program."
>>
>>> Yea, that will look great on a resume .
>>
>>> I can see it now:
>>
>>> Interviewer: "Do you have any Photoshop experience?"
>>
>>> Job Applicant: " Well I've been using Gimp"
>>
>>> Interviewer: " You don't seem like a Gimp to me. Why are you so hard on
>>> yourself?"
>>
>>> Job Applicant: "No, no no. I didn't say I *am* a Gimp, I said I *use*
>>> Gimp.
>>
>>> It's a *GNU* program.
>>
>>> Interviewer: Oh I see. So it's *new*? What happened to the old version?
>>
>>> Well leave your resume with the secretary and we will be in touch.
>>
>> Or it could go....
>>
>> Interviewer: Hey, can you teach us?
>>
>> Job Applicant: Yep, no problem.
>>
>> Interviewer: When can you start?
>
> Interviewer.. - you say its Free!?
>
> Job Applicant: Yep,
>
> Interviewer.. - And it does virtyally Everythig a $600 Copy of
> photoshop will..
>
> Job Applicant: Yep; I can save you a Bunch of dough.. !
>
> Interviewer.. - so when you can you start !

Re: [News] Another School Turns to Free Software

Verily I say unto thee, that Rick spake thusly:
> Hadron wrote:
>> Homer writes:
>>> Verily I say unto thee, that Rick spake thusly:
>>>> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:04:48 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>>> You want to because you are a radical with an agenda. The guy
>>>>> using Photoshop is an artist who wants to earn a living.
>>> Prove that he can't earn a living with Free Software.
>>>
>> The proof is that the professionals choose to pay for Photoshop you
>> raving idiot.

Bigoted conjecture is not proof, especially when it comes from a well
documented and proven moron like you, Hardup.
> ... including, of course, the professionals using FilmGimp/Cinepaint.

That would be the biggest and most successful professional artists of
all ... pretty much all of Hollywood.