I'm not even sure if a flip flop is a real weapon. If you went to the police, and claimed assault with a deadly weapon, and then told them that weapon was a flip flop, they'll likely beat you with something that isn't broken by the gap between my big toe and that other ******* toe I don't know the name of.

The majority of flip flops either wouldn't fit in your mouth, or you could bite through it and eat it, because it's a flip flop. Even trying to beat someone to death with it, you might end up giving them a nice breeze and maybe, just maybe, a bruise.

actually i see kids that need to be spanked but others can obey their parents without getting spanked and grow to be even better people if they arent
i myself never got spanked when i was small and i grew up pretty normal
i love and know a lot about literature,physics and philosophy i speak 3 languages and trying to learn italian as a 4th (hebrew russian and english as my weakest) i am not obese or physically weak or too spoiled and try to help around the house
i think the only thing that my parents dont like about me is my school grades and i bet 90% of this site is having problems in school and most of them were physically disciplined

>It's 1998-ish.
>My curious, young mind is wondering how things sink so fast.
>Decide CD's are really cool looking
>Chuck them into giant fish tank.
>Hundreds of CD's no longer cool enough to look at.
>Finds universal remote (expensive as **** at the time, true inivative technology and all that jazz).
>Father walks in.
>The beginning of the end of my life.

i had a similar experience with fire. Loved watching stuff burn. Lit a piece of paper up when i was 9 and it got on the carpet and singed it. My dad had just put it down the day before. Dad notices. EVERYONE DOWN STAIRS NOW!! ****************** .jpg
He doesn't ask us directley because he wanted to see if we lie. He knew if we would, it was physcic. We all lined up by age. Asked my little bro. " Did you burn my brand new carpet?" "no sir." " get up stairs." Asks my sister and the same thing happens. Gets to me. " did you do it?' " No sir" He turned to my bigger bro and told him to go upstairs. ******************* .jpg. Get licked 14 times by thick leather belt.

******** . If your parents pulled those and you got popped once with em you remembered it and you knocked it the **** off and became a contributing adult who actually cares about trying to do better for yourself. These kids nowadays have everything handed to them and most have no work ethic or concept of reality it's all, "Woe is me my life sucks because I'm such a little **** ." No, My kids are getting whipped when they deserve it and they'll thank me for it later when they're doing well for themselves and not living at home in my basement doing NOTHING with their lives.

Regardless, I just think it's much more logical to have some respect for your kid, have him respect you, and verbally punish him. Make it clear what he did wrong.

If you were contemplating doing something that could get you into trouble with your parents, your incentive not to do it should be "I respect my parents and I won't do this to them" not "Well... if I do I'll get a beating. Best not"

Yeah, it's ******* abuse to get hit across the ass 1-3 times because your kid decided **** YOU and broke the TV when you told them NOT to play in the living room and you have to pay 700$ to replace it. Not to mention the fire they could've started from the burning electronics because it was plugged in at the time. Or the terror of losing everything you own because the fire spread and they forgot to call 911. Or the toxic chemicals and particles in that TV could kill your kid eventually from cancer. Sure that's building on one simple thing but it's hard enough to afford kids but if you look at the bigger picture it also puts a child in the perspective that you are the adult, you are not their friend, you cannot be their friend. You may love them enough to give up your own life for them, but the minute you become their friend before the age of 40 then they walk all over you.

You can STILL punish them with methods like taking **** away from them, grounding them and similar methods. And talk to them to make sure they know what they did wrong and why it's wrong. Don't make them not want to do bad things because they're afraid they'll get a beating, make them not bad things because they don't want to disappoint you.

Also.... I never said anything about them being your friend.
I've read through my comments here. Not one mention of it.
I think you just made that up...

I said have respect for them, but for gods sake, you can EASILY make it clear that they're your parents, and are in control of you WITHOUT a beating.
You don't need someone to hit you to realize that you're below them.

Physically punishing your children is unnecessarily unpleasant for them.
Sure, it might work. But it can also work with a less cruel system, and your child will have an overall happier life not being afraid of their parents.

I mean, I'm not scared of my parents.
The reason I don't do things they want me not to do is because I respect them and don't want them to be disappointed in me.

Not just because I'll get hit.
That would be a TERRIBLE way to look at it.

I cited your method equivalent to being their friend. I'm not, a cozy lovable mom all the ******* time I'm a tyrant when I am needed to be and you can take your red thumb and suck it. I'm fully respectful in the sense that other people's methods may work better, and that's for THEIR kids. But with some of these brats swinging is the only thing that gets through to them. The next time you're in a super market and you hear some brat saying buy me that buy me that you can't honestly tell me you don't feel the compulsion to slap that child and say "ENOUGH!" I've been around enough years to appreciate the smacks I've been given and know that because my mother hit me with her hand when it was neccicary and I've struck more than one bottom that way myself that it hurts you too. You suffer with your kid you don't take the pussy way out and just hit them with an object because you do that then you're not subjecting yourself to the consceous choice you have just made to inflict pain. Also, I'm not afraid of my mom, I'm afraid of the response I'd get if I ****** up her **** , and she's 50 and I have a healthy respect for that back hand.

I agree. I think that if you need to resort to hurting your child to teach them something, then you're parenting wrong. You should teach your child manners and good behavior through respect and communication from the start, that way they'll grow up respecting you, respecting authority, and without any resentment. If your parents hit you to teach you that you're doing something wrong, well then they're not parenting correctly to begin with.

Let me elaborate with you a little more then on this. My prerequsits for hitting my kid involve breaking a window, smashing electronic equipment, attempting to shove their baby sister in the washer, and running up a credit card and by hit I mean 1-3 swats across the butt. And if I'm willing to hit for that then that teaches the kid to be aware of the strangers around them before they go pissing on someone else's cereal. Because if MOM is willing to strike me across the butt because I didn't listen to her and took something of her's without asking that I was told not to, what's THIS GUY over here going to do to me for stealing? Manners do work, but I believe in only having to scare the **** out of my kids once or twice and that should be enough. I was spanked a grand total of 9 times in my life, and always with an open hand up until I was 17 years old if I ****** up and I never felt abused my mother used it as a last resort when I figured out I didn't have to give a **** about what she said. It was only when I heard her tell me to, "Come here." That i panicked and wised up. Got much faster about it too as I got older and didn't get hit at all between 11 to 17 when at 17 I thought I was big enough to get away with telling her to **** off. The answer was Nope. And my kids will never be old enough to tell me to **** off either.

my childhood was amazing, and i was beaten.... but it taught me to respect both my parents and is something SEVERELY lacking in children these days.... god im 19 and i sound like im 40.... can anybody explain whys there's a generation gap between people 18+ and 17 and below? shouldn't it be less pronounced?

Dad: Son, I got you a new belt! Guaranteed to get you all the girls!
Mom: C'mere, honey, you can lick the spoon this time. Hurry up, the oven's running.
Sister: If you find my lost flip flop, I'll give you ten buc.....Oh hey! Thanks, bro! Go buy yourself some candy!