Making Social Learning work - the Learning and Skills Group2020-06-07T10:53:41Zhttps://learningandskillsgroup.ning.com/forum/topics/making-social-learning-work?commentId=2362250%3AComment%3A12620&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks for this, Jon, and yes…tag:learningandskillsgroup.ning.com,2010-01-26:2362250:Comment:129222010-01-26T18:37:17.976ZAlan Bellingerhttps://learningandskillsgroup.ning.com/profile/AlanBellinger
Thanks for this, Jon, and yes I do remember your session well! Your point is well taken; in this thread we've tried to identify what is critical to making social learning work - and you've taken us neatly to the position of focusing on the ends rather than the means.
Thanks for this, Jon, and yes I do remember your session well! Your point is well taken; in this thread we've tried to identify what is critical to making social learning work - and you've taken us neatly to the position of focusing on the ends rather than the means. Alan,
I've just posted on a…tag:learningandskillsgroup.ning.com,2010-01-26:2362250:Comment:129192010-01-26T18:22:03.562ZJon Inghamhttps://learningandskillsgroup.ning.com/profile/JonIngham
Alan,<br />
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I've just posted on a meeting with Josh Bersin yesterday: <a href="http://http://strategic-hcm.blogspot.com/2010/01/josh-bersin-on-informal-and-social.html" target="_blank">Josh Bersin on informal and social learning</a><br />
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In the post I note that social learning needs to be integrated with other social management approaches. The same applies with social networking too - so I'd suggest the answer to your question is: don't start with social networking. Find something else for people to…
Alan,<br />
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I've just posted on a meeting with Josh Bersin yesterday: <a href="http://http://strategic-hcm.blogspot.com/2010/01/josh-bersin-on-informal-and-social.html" target="_blank">Josh Bersin on informal and social learning</a><br />
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In the post I note that social learning needs to be integrated with other social management approaches. The same applies with social networking too - so I'd suggest the answer to your question is: don't start with social networking. Find something else for people to believe in (you might remember my session on Capabilities in your track (3) at LT 2008).<br />
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If this thing / capability is something to do with either learning or social, then you've got it made. The word social can also be u…tag:learningandskillsgroup.ning.com,2010-01-26:2362250:Comment:129182010-01-26T17:09:11.729ZJon Inghamhttps://learningandskillsgroup.ning.com/profile/JonIngham
The word social can also be useful.<br />
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Social learning is not not (to use McAfee's term) about being social - ie concerned with relationships.<br />
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If we don't use the term (introduced carefully), we restrict ourselves from being able to gain some of the possible benefits of the technologies / approaches.<br />
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See: <a href="http://blog.social-advantage.com/2009/10/dont-get-made-sick-by-social.html" target="_blank">http://blog.social-advantage.com/2009/10/dont-get-made-sick-by-social.html</a>
The word social can also be useful.<br />
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Social learning is not not (to use McAfee's term) about being social - ie concerned with relationships.<br />
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If we don't use the term (introduced carefully), we restrict ourselves from being able to gain some of the possible benefits of the technologies / approaches.<br />
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See: <a href="http://blog.social-advantage.com/2009/10/dont-get-made-sick-by-social.html" target="_blank">http://blog.social-advantage.com/2009/10/dont-get-made-sick-by-social.html</a> Thanks for the link, Sumeet -…tag:learningandskillsgroup.ning.com,2010-01-21:2362250:Comment:127732010-01-21T15:29:30.610ZAlan Bellingerhttps://learningandskillsgroup.ning.com/profile/AlanBellinger
Thanks for the link, Sumeet - some good stuff here.
Thanks for the link, Sumeet - some good stuff here. Thanks for this Mark - I real…tag:learningandskillsgroup.ning.com,2010-01-21:2362250:Comment:127602010-01-21T07:56:13.415ZSumeet Moghehttps://learningandskillsgroup.ning.com/profile/SumeetMoghe
Thanks for this Mark - I really loved that post of yours. A couple of months ago, I put some of my thoughts into a blogpost titled - <a href="http://www.learninggeneralist.com/2009/11/making-enterprise-20-succeed-little.html" target="_blank">Making Enterprise 2.0 succeed - little things that help</a>.<br />
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My key thought however resonates one of yours - 'it's really about syndication'. The place where most enterprise 2.0 installations fail is when we start competing with the web. Instead, we should…
Thanks for this Mark - I really loved that post of yours. A couple of months ago, I put some of my thoughts into a blogpost titled - <a href="http://www.learninggeneralist.com/2009/11/making-enterprise-20-succeed-little.html" target="_blank">Making Enterprise 2.0 succeed - little things that help</a>.<br />
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My key thought however resonates one of yours - 'it's really about syndication'. The place where most enterprise 2.0 installations fail is when we start competing with the web. Instead, we should be looking at harnessing people's wisdom from the public internet and aggregating it to create collective intelligence.<br />
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At ThoughtWorks, we're doing this by aggregating people's 'lifestream' (all their public social media intake) and their 'workstream' (all the work they're doing professionally for the company). We're looking at interesting ways of contextualising and visualising this information so people can keep learning from each other on a continuous basis. Hi Alan,
Community management…tag:learningandskillsgroup.ning.com,2010-01-21:2362250:Comment:127592010-01-21T07:47:23.555ZSumeet Moghehttps://learningandskillsgroup.ning.com/profile/SumeetMoghe
Hi Alan,<br />
Community management is crucial to the success of social learning. Don's a great example of an effective community manager for this group itself. I recently hit upon this excellent presentation on community management. It lists <a href="http://ow.ly/WJLu" target="_blank">5 tips for community management</a> which I think are extremely crucial to the success of any social learning initiative.<br />
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Hope you find this useful.<br />
Sumeet
Hi Alan,<br />
Community management is crucial to the success of social learning. Don's a great example of an effective community manager for this group itself. I recently hit upon this excellent presentation on community management. It lists <a href="http://ow.ly/WJLu" target="_blank">5 tips for community management</a> which I think are extremely crucial to the success of any social learning initiative.<br />
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Hope you find this useful.<br />
Sumeet I knew I forgot one thing...I…tag:learningandskillsgroup.ning.com,2010-01-20:2362250:Comment:127522010-01-20T18:05:40.274ZMark Oehlerthttps://learningandskillsgroup.ning.com/profile/MarkOehlert
I knew I forgot one thing...I think one of the common fears is what you voice above - that they'll be used to waste time. My experience however has been that people who are time-wasters would have found some way to waste time 50 years ago and that these tools don't turn people into time-wasters but do provide lots of tools to save time and build community that we might not have access to. :-)
I knew I forgot one thing...I think one of the common fears is what you voice above - that they'll be used to waste time. My experience however has been that people who are time-wasters would have found some way to waste time 50 years ago and that these tools don't turn people into time-wasters but do provide lots of tools to save time and build community that we might not have access to. :-) HUGE fan of Etienne Wenger's…tag:learningandskillsgroup.ning.com,2010-01-20:2362250:Comment:127512010-01-20T18:02:19.848ZMark Oehlerthttps://learningandskillsgroup.ning.com/profile/MarkOehlert
HUGE fan of Etienne Wenger's work and I actually sit in the Knowledge Management branch in my office where one of main functions is building and expanding our CoPs. And the term is perfectly fine and does have a lot behind it, I also think that it probably carries a lot of baggage with it, in the sense that I think a lot of CoPs have been implemented badly. That being said, no reason to abandon the term.<br />
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My thinking though is that like O'Reilly's use of "2.0" to indicate break with the past…
HUGE fan of Etienne Wenger's work and I actually sit in the Knowledge Management branch in my office where one of main functions is building and expanding our CoPs. And the term is perfectly fine and does have a lot behind it, I also think that it probably carries a lot of baggage with it, in the sense that I think a lot of CoPs have been implemented badly. That being said, no reason to abandon the term.<br />
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My thinking though is that like O'Reilly's use of "2.0" to indicate break with the past way of doing business, the term "social learning" still has some utility if for nothing else than to frame the differences with CoPs and to push some discussion forward there. Couldn't agree more with the…tag:learningandskillsgroup.ning.com,2010-01-20:2362250:Comment:127502010-01-20T17:52:35.682ZMark Oehlerthttps://learningandskillsgroup.ning.com/profile/MarkOehlert
Couldn't agree more with the importance on culture. My background is actually in anthropology so the focus on culture is second nature to me. I find that too often we'll implement an enterprise-wide system that costs tons of money w/out a thought to how the culture will react or how to prepare that culture for the system.
Couldn't agree more with the importance on culture. My background is actually in anthropology so the focus on culture is second nature to me. I find that too often we'll implement an enterprise-wide system that costs tons of money w/out a thought to how the culture will react or how to prepare that culture for the system. How about picking a term that…tag:learningandskillsgroup.ning.com,2010-01-20:2362250:Comment:127492010-01-20T17:49:07.679ZMark Berthelemyhttps://learningandskillsgroup.ning.com/profile/MarkBerthelemy
How about picking a term that has got a lot of academic thought behind it: communities of practice?
How about picking a term that has got a lot of academic thought behind it: communities of practice?