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Vighatika Lagna is used for sex determination, In Jaimini Updesa Sutram determination of Sex based on Vighatika time of birth is indicated. Refer to Pt. Sanjay Rath's translation on Commentry on JUS for this.

Warm RegardsSanjay P

Hare Rama Krishna

Further Notes.

Method:Note the time for birth since Sunrise. Convert the time into Seconds.Note the Day of the birth.

Procedure:Divide the birth time since sunrise by 24. Roundup the quotient. Divide the quotient by 7. Roundup the qoutient.Take the planet ruler as per Normal Order table given below.Then Determine the sex of the individual as per the planet.

Tables:Normal order for Planets (Weekday is given rulership as per Normal Order)1 Sun2 Moon3 Mars4 Merc5 Jupiter6 Venus7 Saturn8 Rahu9 KetuNote:The Each 1 Sec of the 24 Seconds are ordered as per zodiacal speed of the planet. Hence every 24th is thus the normal weekday order. The 24th second is the lord of the cycle. The 8th and 9th cycle is given Rahu and Ketu ownership. Speed Order ownership for each second is Saturn,Jup,Mars,Sun,Venus,Merc,Moon.

Wednesday, July 20, 2005

> Jai sai Ram
>
> Respected Guru Ji's,
>
> 1)Can we interlink Divisional charts reading with D-1...like placement of planets of D-10 can we link them to lordship of houses in D-1 or viceversa...well i use to think till today.. that we have to read divisional charts separately...(This is without using UL & AL methods)
>
> I had come across a Site looking for dasamsa..Pls comment and rate the contents regarding Dasaamsa...
>
> http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/skinbags/id60.htm
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Sunil Kumar Varanasi

Namaste Sunil Kumar,

I will answer your question based on my limited understanding of the topic.

The rasi chart shows the physical existence. The divisional charts show the supporting environements (e.g. professional environment, spiritual environment etc).

Of course, the two interact and influence each other. Thus, the charts CAN be correlated.

In fact, not only do rasi and divisional charts interact, but various divisional charts interact too. For example, someone's professional and spiritual environments may overlap. Someone's financial environment and professional environment may have links. Someone's education and career may have a strong link and that may not be so for someone else. All these can be judged by studying the links between various divisional charts and rasi chart.

Let me give some examples.

Take the chart of Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati. In his D-10, chart of career, Moon is in the 10th house in a Martian sign (Scorpio). In his D-20, chart of spirituality and sadhana, the same Moon and Mars are together in the 9th house. The 9th house of dharma in D-20 shows religiousness and piety in spiritual sadhana and following dharma in spiritual matters. The planets associated with that house influencing the 10th house of D-10 clearly shows that there is a strong link between the work he does in society and the religiousness of the person. No wonder he is spiritual leader.

As another example, take Ramakrishna Paramahamsa. In his D-10, Saturn is in 10th house in Aquarius, owned by Saturn and Rahu. In D-20, Saturn and Rahu are together in the 8th house of sadhana, tapasya and mystic experiences. So his Saturnine career shown by D-10 has a link to his spiritual sadhana and mystic experiences.

Take Sri Aurobindo Ghose. In his D-24, chart of education, Venus is the 5th and 10th lord and hence a yoga karaka. He also participates in excellent raja yogas in Aquarius with 1st and 9th lords. The sign where this raja yoga occurs (Aq) is badhaka sthana in D-4, the chart of residence. Venus is the 7th lord and occupies the 8th house Scorpio with Rahu, clearly showing displacement from home and living abroad. Thus, most of his education was abroad. The same Aurobindo has Sun in own sign in the 8th house with nodes in D-24, showing excellent occult learning. But that sign is the 5th house in D-4 and Sun is in 5th in D-4. So his occult learning came at mother land. In his D-10, lord of the 5th house of patriotism is Rahu and he is in marana karaka sthana in Gemini, showing fanatical patriotism and problems due to it. Gemini is the 3rd house of sukha lopa in D-4 and the 12th house of incarceration in rasi chart (physical existence). So he was jailed due to his patriotism. His 10th house of D-10 contains Saturn like Ramakrishna Paramahamsa. Also, just like the latter, his Saturn is associated with 8th house in D-20 and hence his Saturnine career had a link to his spiritual sadhana. After all, not everybody with Saturn in 10th in D-10 becomes a yogi like Ramakrishna or Aurobindo. Without the proper links to D-20, that combination can also show a labourer.

I can go on and on like this with many many examples, but I must stop due the paucity of time. I gave some more examples of mult-divisional chart linking in my TP book.

Monday, July 18, 2005

> And are you aware of any classical reference that gives a particular point
> in the sky that's regarded as the commencement of Aswini?

There is no real physical star at the beginning of Aswini.

Instead, with Lahiri/Chitrapaksha ayanamsa, we get Spica star in the middle of Chitra nakshatra (i.e. at 180 deg).

In recent years, Sri Chandra Hari did some good work and he placed Lambda Scorpionis star at the beginning of Moola nakshatra and came up with his own ayanamsa ("Chandra Hari ayanamsa"). His logic is based on some tantric tradition and he refers to Mooladhara chakra.

Mooladhara chakra is the basis of one's existence. More than Sahasrara chakra (1st house - head), it is the Mooladhara chakra (7th house) that needs to be fixed as the basis. I am inclined to agree with him on that. But I don't agree with identifying Moola nakshatra as the Mooladhara chakra.

Sahasrara chakra of Kalapurusha (natural zodiac) is at 0Ar0 (or closeby). Mooladhara chakra of the Kalapurusha is at 0Li0. The upper chakras are on one side and the lower chakras are on the other side.

Thus, fixing the zodiac based on the 180 degree point as the Calendar committee did is quite logical.

I will not engage in a debate with Pradeep, who seems to make up his own rules to play by and keeps changing them as the debate progresses. But I wanted to write in detail about the verse I mentioned yesterday for the benefit of those who are interested and also those who may be confused by all this.

I am using the ITrans convention for transliteration. You can cut & paste this text into software supporting ITrans (e.g. "ITranslator 99" from Omkarananda Ashram) and see the text in Sanskrit.

This verse means that if lagna in all the six divisions is occupied or aspected by the same planet, it constitutes a raja yoga. Based on the fullness of the aspect, the strength of the yoga is to be decided.

One can argue that this is rasi drishti (which does not need houses), but the mention of full, half and quarter aspects makes it quite obvious that graha drishti based on houses is being referred to. In rasi drishti, there are no grades of aspects.

As a matter of fact, Sri Santhanam did not translate the verse any differently than I would. In fact, I see no scope to translate differently. Under his notes, Sri Santhanam wrote the following:

"Aspects are referred to in the divisional charts here. I am unable to fully conceive the logic in aspects in divisional charts for the sage himself referred to the longitudinal aspectual evaluations in an earlier chapter. Without commenting further on this controversial aspect I leave it at that, accepting my limitations to explain this fully."

While some people seem to be quite arrogant in vehemently and forcefully dismissing the use of houses in navamsa despite the long history of the practice by great scholars, one may notice that the great Santhanam was quite humble. He did not question the verse or try to misinterpret it or give alternate interpretations. He was a scholar. He clearly recognized what this verse meant and what it implied!!! He simply accepted his limitation to explain it further or make sense of its obvious implication.

That is why I respect Sri Santhanam so much. Even if I disagree with him in a few places based on careful study, it is nothing personal. As a person, I respect him immensely. He is a great role model to aspiring scholars.

Now, intelligent readers should note that Santhanam's "inability to explain this fully" does not mean that the verse is wrong or questionable. As Santhanam himself accepted, it was his "limitation" that he could not "explain this fully". Now, let me try to "explain this fully". (Note to Pradeep: I will NOT respond to any questions or comments from you.)

If Jupiter is at 2 deg in Pisces (i.e. in 0:00-3:20), he is exalted is Cancer in navamsa. Why is it called Cancer? We know that Aries, Taurus etc are divisions of the "physical" zodiac and Cancer is physically the region between 90 deg and 120 deg. Why didn't sages come up with new names for the navamsa divisions, drekkana divisions etc? Why are all those divisions mapped back to the same 12 signs? When we say that Jupiter in the above example is in Cancer in navamsa, do we mean that he is between 90 deg and 120 deg? Otherwise, why is it called "Cancer" for God's sake?

This is the crux of the issue. If one understands this clearly, there is no confusion and the above verse of Parasara makes perfect sense.

Jupiter in the above example is in Pisces physically. So he is at 2 deg in Pisces as far as Rasi chart or rasi space (i.e. physical space) is concerned. But navamsa is a different chart altogether. It is a different space altogether. It is not a physical space and is an abstract space (that is why only rasi chart shows the physical existence, while navamsa shows an abstract environment known as dharmik environment). A planet in 0:00-3:20 of Pisces in the phsycial space (rasi) is mapped in this abstract navamsa space to 0:00 to 30:00 of Cancer. In other words, a planet in 330:00-333:20 of the zodiac in the physical space is mapped in this abstract navamsa space to 90:00-120:00 of the zodiac. So Jupiter at 2 deg in Pisces in the physical space (rasi) is at 18 deg in Cancer in the navamsa space. (Side note: In fact, this is the very foundation of the casting of navamsa-dwadasamsa chart. Navamsa-dwadasamsa is not based on dividing rasis into 108 parts and linearly mapping them. Navamsa is the intermediate step. It is based on casting navamsa, treating it as rasi and finding its dwadasamsa. The sign occupied in navamsa-dwadasamsa by a planet at 2 deg in Pisces in rasi is the same as the sign occupied in dwadasamsa by a planet at 18 deg in Cancer in rasi!)

If you realize this, then the fact that "the sage himself referred to the longitudinal aspectual evaluations in an earlier chapter" is no longer a concern and does not become a limitation in "accepting this fully".

Some may tell you that Cancer in navamsa is not the same as Cancer in rasi. Don't kid yourself. Otherwise, it wouldn't be called "Cancer". They correspond to the same 30 degrees in the zodiac, albeit seen from two different spaces. Cancer in rasi chart corresponds to the same 30 degrees in the physical space, while Cancer in navamsa chart corresponds to a various smaller regions when seen thru the physical space. But once you enter the navamsa space thru one of those 3:20 regions in the physical space and see things thru the navamsa space, you are in the same old Cancer, i.e. 90-120 deg. If 90-120 deg is the second house from 60-90 deg in the zodiac in one space, it is so in another space too. Period.

If the planet is in 330:00-333:20 in the rasi chart, that is so in the physical rasi space. Once you are dealing with navamsa, don't think that it is still in 330:00-333:20. When viewed thru the navamsa space, it is NOT in that region. It is in 90:00-120:00 when viewed thru this space.

Those who do not understand and appreciate this simple concept will tell you not to take houses in navamsa (and other divisions). But they will not be able to explain the verse I quoted above. Either they will have to accept their limitation in explaining it, like Sri Santhanam did (there is nothing wrong with it), or give some misinterpretation, like Santhanam did not. On the other hand, if you get this simple concept into your system, there are no issues. The choice is yours.

There are many other references to houses in amsas by Parasara, but they are more ambiguous.

Despite my strong (and quite justified, in my view) views on taking houses in navamsa and other divisional charts, I do respect those who think otherwise. I sincerely hope that they too can respect my views and agree to disagree. If they do not try to force me to accept their views or throw around objectionable adjectives to describe my views, I will not force them to accept their views.

Understanding that houses in divisions are important is one thing and understanding how to use them and how to use houses in rasi chart and how to correlate the two is quite another thing. But that is not my focus for today.

Thursday, July 07, 2005

> Dear Narasimha
> I noticed that, in JHora software the Shodashottary dasha sub
periods
> do not start from its own period. I was reading Shri Goel's book
on
> this. And in the book the sub periods start from its own ..
> Meaning Jup-Jup first etc. But in JHora it is different. Just
wanted
> to bring this to your attention. Please take a look when you get a
> chance.
>
> MS.

I programmed it based on the teachings of our tradition, as conveyed to me by my guru Pt Sanjay Rath.

There are three ways of reckoning antardasas in nakshatra dasas. One is Jupiter's way, one is Rahu's way and one is Ketu's way. Antardasas start with mahadasa in Jupiter's way and they end with mahadasa in Rahu's way and Ketu's way. They go in the reverse order in Rahu's way and in the normal order in Jupiter's way and Ketu's way.

Wednesday, July 06, 2005

> hello forum members,
>
> i got this data frm a shri Rath's serbia website.
>
> yogas in navamsha varga
>
> There are some additional Yogas such as Bahoo Stree Yoga which were present in
some of the horoscope, which is formed by mangal and shukra influence over 2nd
house, while guru influence may enhance immorality, ketu lorded by Shri Ganesh
can definitely stop it. Guru in trines or other chastity Yogas such as
dharmakarmadhipaty may also counteract the evil influence.
>
> kindly suggest something that ...why guru is said to be enhancing immorality
..
>
> because many members have previously said that Guru is guru its totally of
nice morals...
>
> thanks
>
> tarun.

Dear Tarun,

Guru's aspect on Venus and Mars in 2nd in navamsa increases the licentious nature in sexual matters.

According to Puranic stories, Brihaspati raped an unwilling Mamata, wife of Brihaspati's elder brother Utathya. The child born due to Brihaspati's moment of weakness, Kacha, was brilliant and he is the one who learnt the Mrita Sanjivini mantra from Sukracharya, teacher of demons.

Of course, even Brihaspati had to pay for his karma. His own wife Tara fell in love with Moon and had a child with Moon, giving much grief to Brihaspati. Mercury was born to Tara as a result and Jupiter accepted him as his son later.

So Jupiter is associated with two stories of immoral extra-marital affairs - once on the receiving end and once once on the other end.

Though mythological stories help us sometimes to make sense of astrological combinations, a better way to appreciate those stories is by understanding the metaphors in them. Puranic stories are full of metaphors. I am not saying that the stories are unreal. They may be a real in a different space or a different loka. However, given that each human being is a microcosm of the entire universe and that various lokas, devas and asuras exist in each human being, one can see that various Puranic stories are re-occurring within each human being at various
times, metaphorically speaking.

For example, let us understand the metaphors in the above stories.

Who is Brihaspati? As astrologers, we know that Jupiter shows the wisdom and intelligence in a person. He shows the dhee of a person. What does Mamata show? Mamata means ego-centricism, selfishness etc (mama-ta=mine-ness). In other words, Mamata of mythology is a metaphor for the selfishness within us.

Is ego-centricism/selfishness the correct companion to wisdom? Of course not. No wonder, Mamata is not Brihaspati's wife. Brihaspati's wife is Tara. By the meaning of name, Tara stands for a radiant and brilliant protecting force that carries across. Such a force is the right companion to wisdom. While male element shows the existential potentiality, female element shows the engulfing energy and the actual manifestation. Thus, Brihaspati's manifestation is thru the energy of Tara. No wonder the purpose of wisdom, intelligence and dhee is to
radiate brilliance, protect one and carry one across. That is how wisdom is supposed to manifest!

Also no wonder Rishi DirghaTamas was Mamata's son thru her real husband Utathya. Utathya could mean certainty or confidence that comes with great learning. That confidence is born before wisdom (elder brother). When such great confidence combines with ego-centricism, excellent knowledge is born which is also blind forever. No wonder, Utathya and Mamata had a child named Dirgha Tamas (long darkness), who was very learned but blind.

Anyway, coming back to the main story, ego-centricism and selfishness are not the correct companion to wisdom. But, if wisdom finds selfishness attractive and combines with it once, it is not bad after all. Without some selfishness, a lot of abilities of wisdom go wasted in a sense! When Brihaspati (wisdom) combined with non-cooperative selfishness (Mamata), it resulted in the birth of practically inclined brilliance (Kacha)!

Similarly, when the mind (Moon) and the brilliant protecting and carrying force of wisdom (Tara, wife of Brihaspati) combine, the learning ability (Mercury) is produced!!! Learning ability (Mercury) of the product (son) of mind (Moon), but it is accepted and nurtured by wisdom and intelligence (Jupiter).

As time is short, I will not speak of the metaphors in the story of Sukracharya, Kacha, Devayani, Asuras and Mrita Sajivini mantra.

All this is just the tip of the iceberg. There is so much more to the Puranic stories. The metaphors in Puranic stories are very meaningful and illuminating. Sometimes, there are astrological links to the metaphors. I am not such a good scholar in Puranic stories. But, even with my limited knowledge, I see so much Light in those stories!

I covered this to some extent in my first few Sunday classes at Dracut, MA, USA. MP3 audio is freely downloadable at the link given below.