Sunday, January 29, 2012

Mohammad Shafia, along with one of his wives and his son, murdered three daughters and a second wife for "betraying Islam." The three defendants have just been found guilty of first-degree murder. I'm wondering if CAIR will cry "Islamophobia" at this one.

THE CANADIAN PRESS--A jury has found three members of an Afghanistan-born Montreal family guilty of killing three daughters and a co-wife in a so-called honour killing.

Mohammad Shafia, 58, his wife Tooba Yahya, 42, and their son Hamed, 21, have been found guilty of four counts each of first-degree murder.

They have been convicted of killing Shafia sisters Zainab, 19, Sahar, 17, and Geeti, 13, as well as Rona Amir Mohammad, 52, their father's childless first wife in a polygamous marriage.

Their bodies were found June 30, 2009, in a car submerged in a canal in Kingston, Ont., where the family had stopped for the night on their way home from Niagara Falls, Ont.

The Crown theory was that Shafia, Yahya and Hamed drowned the four victims elsewhere on the site, placed their bodies in the car, then pushed it into the canal with the family's other vehicle.

The defence had said it was an accident, that they had gone for a joy ride with Zainab driving and accidentally plunged into the canal with Hamed watching, although he didn't call police. (Source)

Muslims do have plural marriages in Canada, but they are not legally recognized as the law still forbids it. Recently, that was challenged by the FLDS on the basis of free religious practice. However, I think the court decided to uphold the current law. During the controversy, muslims claimed to have performed such plural marriages (against the law), but obviously didn't say who the people were. I think in this particular case, they were already married before they immigrated, so the first wife was claimed to be "aunt."

Otherwise, did anyone know about the bomb threat? This happened right near where I work...

Events like this and our reaction to them reminds me of something I read about. Back when India was a colony of Great Britain some Hindus where explaining to the British authorities that it was tradition to burn the wife alive on a funeral pyre of the departed husband. Their reasoning was given that it was there tradition the British should not object. The British authorities reply no, by all means honor your tradition, but while you build your pyre to honor yours, we are going to build some gallows right next to your pyre so we can then honor our tradition of hanging murders.

Per the media policy of refusing to report the actions of Muslims - even crimes - in a negative light, "honor killings" done under Islamic principles are not being reported for what they are. For instance, the "Santa killer" in Texas was reported in the mainstream media as simply having allegedly killed his family with no clear motivation and only after gushing praise for him, the Muslim father. Under Sharia law, which enforces Islamic principles, a father may kill his children for rebelling against Islam without incurring prosecution. (Sharia Law o2.4 (‘Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2.) “Reliance of the Traveller”).

President Obama is trying to give the Muslim Brotherhood's global jihad a large loop hole in which to enforce Sharia law in the U.S. by preventing the criminal intent, as defined by U.S. law, of First Degree Murder (e.g., killing one's child to save face/preserve Muslim honor under Sharia law) from being recognized, the evidence collected, and being used in prosecution of such crimes. He is doing this by banning/censoring even the words describing such intent from the U.S. Government and its agencies' vocabularies. Such action is in itself enforcement of Sharia law which prohibits any critical analysis or criticism of Islam or Mohammad or Muslims enforcing Sharia law. For example:

Haddith: Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 38, Number 4349:

Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib: "A Jewess used to abuse the Prophet (peace be upon him) and disparage him. A man strangled her till she died. The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) declared that no recompense was payable for her blood."

Qur’an 33:36: "It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Apostle, to have any option about their decision: If anyone disobeys Allah and His Apostle, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path." )

Your whitewash policy is in collusion with this seditious enforcement of Sharia law.

Muslims in the U.S. do have every right under the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights to believe whatever they want, but they do NOT have the legal right to enforce Sharia law on anyone. Let the crimes, as defined by U.S. law, that jihadists commit be prosecuted as crimes and reported as crimes. Let Muslims have equal protection under the - U.S. - law (not special protection) and let them be prosecuted for their crimes and let their crimes be accurately reported. Further, as we have "gang crimes" with stiffer penalties because of the extreme disregard for human life and property, we should also have "jihad crimes" which recognize the criminal intent of committing honor killings to save face under Islam and therefore given tougher punishment and also because they are seditious in attempting to enforce Sharia law over Constitutional law.

The question to you and your media outlet is: Which do you submit to and seek protection from, Sharia law or Constitutional law? The answer to this question is illustrated in your news stories and is important to your audience.

Where does in the Quran and hadith is honor killing allowed. I must say, if there is any crime that you ever hear about you will find a way to blame Islam for it. Infact, islam prohibits harming muslims.

Sahih Bukhari

Volume 1, Book 2, Number 9:Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr:

The Prophet said, "A Muslim is the one who avoids harming Muslims with his tongue and hands. And a Muhajir (emigrant) is the one who gives up (abandons) all what Allah has forbidden."

Volume 1, Book 2, Number 10:Narrated Abu Musa:

Some people asked Allah's Apostle, "Whose Islam is the best? i.e. (Who is a very good Muslim)?" He replied, "One who avoids harming the Muslims with his tongue and hands."

But clearly, you have your own hidden agenda to just mock Islam without providing any sources. How convenient of you.

Why did they give them life with a chance of parole? Why throw them a bone and give them a chance to reintegrate with our society (Western)? These folks killed their flesh and blood. I'm the son of immigrants - our only choice in Western society is to integrate or die.

I enjoy my culture, but I will be the first to trim the fat off of any aspect of my culture that contradicts my Christian values.

In my opinion, they deserve no chance of parole. This was too vicious.

People wonder why there is so much evil in this world. This is your answer right here. Evil needs to be "revealed" before it is "reviled".

"We are not criminal, we are not murderer, we didn't commit the murder and this is unjust."

In the Islamic mindset it was a perfectly justified act. The media seems to treat this as a claim of innocence. But its a claim of innocence of murder, not of killing them. The brother, though, seems to have claimed that he did not kill his sisters, "I did not drown my sisters anywhere." (highly qualified, but again no claim that he didn't kill them or participate) Too bad they don't have a death penalty. This father talks about honor; even Klingons have a better understanding of honor than this guy.

I noticed you have come back recently after being completely refuted in everything else. It is no surprise how you cans stay a Muslim with your complete inability for critical thinking. You posted this as your evidence against Honor killing. My gosh your amazing!

Sahih Bukhari

Volume 1, Book 2, Number 9:Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr:

The Prophet said, "A Muslim is the one who avoids harming Muslims with his tongue and hands. And a Muhajir (emigrant) is the one who gives up (abandons) all what Allah has forbidden."

So I guess because of this hadith all punishment for Muslims is void. This is just speaking about a pius Muslim. Not Muslim that commit immorality or Islamic crimes. You are so ignorant it is absolutely fascinating. If I have to elaborate on this I am going to laugh my Azz off! LOL!

Mr. Shafia: “They were treacherous. They betrayed both themselves and to us. Like this woman standing on the side of the road and if you stop the car she would go with you anywhere. For the love of God, Tooba, damnation on this life of ours, on these years of life that we lead. When I tell you to be patient you tell me that it is hard. It isn't harder than watching them every hour with [boyfriend]. For this reason, whenever I see those pictures, I am consoled. I say to myself, ‘You did well. Would that they come back to life a hundred times for you to do the same again.’ That's how hurt I am. Tooba, they betrayed us immensely. They violated us immensely. There can be no betrayal, no treachery, no violation more than this.”

Mr Shafia

“Even if they hoist me up onto the gallows...nothing is more dear to me than my honour.”

“Let's leave our destiny to God and may God never make me, you or your mother honourless. I don't accept this dishonour.”

“This is my word to you: Be I dead or alive, nothing in the world is above than your honour.”

“I am telling you now and I was telling you before that whoever play with my honour, my words are the same...There is no value of life without honour.”

“If we remain alive one night or one year, we have no tension in our hearts, [thinking that] our daughter is in the arms of this or that boy, in the arms of this or that man. God curse their generation. Curse of God on both of them, on their kind. God's curse on them for generations...May the devil [defecate] on their graves. Is that what a daughter should be? Would [a daughter] be such a whore?”

@Samatar: Hmm. That's an interesting opperative word there, "muslims". Could it be argued that one who is not living as a muslim (having non-muslim boyfriend, not wearing the burka) is not actally a muslim?

Also, it's a laugh to say I'm "blaming Islam", It is muslims themselves who are doing horrible things and then using their scriptures to excuse it. The issue you should have is not with ME but with THEM, your fellow brothers who are making Islam look bad! (Over 18,000 acts of terror since 9/11 and counting!)

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