Need some feedback on what kind of frame you would like to see me manufacture.

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The solid part at the top will be milled out from the top, a MPA3 should fit nicely.
Uses AGD triggers and safety parts.
Aluminum grips.
These will be lighter than the Intelli frame.
I'm going to do a single trigger design too.

Not sure what to do with an ASA mount on the bottom, with dove tails, T-slots, standard ASA 10-32 screw holes and sleeper mods being done to frames these days Iím tempted to not do any machining there at all. (?)

This looks so nice I want one... Imagine some sweet rosewood grips on this

I have completed the design for a double trigger, 86* mechanical frame. It uses AGD triggers and safety parts.

This frame looks more like a short 90* than an 86* frame. The area where your fingers will grip the frame looks to small to me. This is most likely why the original 90* frame made by Freeflow were made longer!

BTW These were originally made for the autococker before Rogue copied them for the automag platform!

The area where your fingers will grip the frame looks to small to me. !

I assure you this is not the case, there is plenty of room and it is quite comfortable.

This is most likely why the original 90* frame made by Freeflow were made longer

I can't speak to that because I donít know why they did what they did, but like I said the grip fits quite nicely in your hand, if it were a problem I would change it. Really its not even "border line" too short.

BTW These were originally made for the autococker before Rogue copied them for the automag platform!

Are you guys implying you want a grip the length of an Angel frame? If so speak up cuz its less work for me, I wont have to make grips, I can use existing stock.

If there is no interest in a double trigger frame, lmk know now before I spend more time and money. I can switch over to the single version pretty easy, it really does not matter to me one way or another.

When shooting a two finger trigger frame how many fingers do you use to hold the bottom of your grip frame?

Exactly! Personally, when using a two finger frame, I really barely grip the frame much at all. I use my offhand on the reg/foregrip more to hold and steady the gun. Kinda hard two walk a trigger if you have your hand completely wrapped around the grip. I like the frame the way it is. Hoping to get both single and two finger styles. Great work!

Are you guys implying you want a grip the length of an Angel frame? If so speak up cuz its less work for me, I wont have to make grips, I can use existing stock.

If there is no interest in a double trigger frame, lmk know now before I spend more time and money. I can switch over to the single version pretty easy, it really does not matter to me one way or another.

I like it as it is now in terms of length but I want a single trigger one, instead.

Are you guys implying you want a grip the length of an Angel frame? If so speak up cuz its less work for me, I wont have to make grips, I can use existing stock.

If there is no interest in a double trigger frame, lmk know now before I spend more time and money. I can switch over to the single version pretty easy, it really does not matter to me one way or another.

if you dont make any double besides the one you showed.
i would be interested in taking that one off your hands.
i would like a double for sure.

Are you guys implying you want a grip the length of an Angel frame? If so speak up cuz its less work for me, I wont have to make grips, I can use existing stock.

If there is no interest in a double trigger frame, lmk know now before I spend more time and money. I can switch over to the single version pretty easy, it really does not matter to me one way or another.

-keep it how you designed it, there are already frames that are lengthy as the angel frames...

-your going to have to make an extra one for me, since KNM has dibs on the first one...

Iím not taking any of it personal, I donít really care which ones I make. At this point it really isnít relevant, I just donít want to make them and have them sit. As far as the machining, everything is equal i.e. materials, tooling setup, machine time etc, the green (go) button donít care.

Probably what I'll do is a pre-order with a discount just so I can get the initial numbers right. No limits or stipulations, just a discount for helping me out.

Just thought id throw this out there, what about doing a trigger that is in between a single trigger and double trigger. Have a trigger that is still curved but longer, could still keep the looks of a single trigger with a little more leverage like the double trigger. The major down side would be you couldnt use existing triggers, but if you keep the agd style triggers, the new ones would work in agd double triggers as well. Any thoughts?

Just thought id throw this out there, what about doing a trigger that is in between a single trigger and double trigger. Have a trigger that is still curved but longer, could still keep the looks of a single trigger with a little more leverage like the double trigger. The major down side would be you couldnt use existing triggers, but if you keep the agd style triggers, the new ones would work in agd double triggers as well. Any thoughts?

Dye did some cocker frames that were 1.5 finger triggers. Granted they were 45 style frames.

I guess I'm not real keen on adding another style frame. Perhaps a 1.5 trigger to fit the double trigger frames, but that would be about it.

I do have plans on one more frame design but it will be made to all new specifications and will not be designed to use other venderís parts. Plus it will be an ep-pneu only frame and will not work in mech mode.

That is a ways out and is mostly a figment of my imagination at this point. I do have a design started but now that these two frames are going to be made I can start from a new slate and do exactly what I want without designing around the AGD platform.

This could be as much as a year out so I canít field questions on it yet, its way to early. I want to do some smaller projects after these frames are done such as snatch grips, wedges, new emag switches. Plus I have several personal non paintball projects I really need to get done.

since the way it looks we will have to do some modding on this prame if we want to do anything but Mechanical? or am i wrong here?

This is a tinkererís frame so that's exactly right, but that was my intention from the start.

This is setup is designed for easy mounting a MPA3 without mods, there should be plenty of room to mount a 90* air fitting on the back factory tapped hole on the MPA3. The mounting plate gives you a base to set up an EP actuated frame or a pneumag using a MSV2 or an SMAV3.

In time I will develop mods for all different builds, but for now I donít have time for R&D.