tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post1106522593972307691..comments2019-05-24T02:22:01.689-07:00Comments on dhamma musings: Vegetarianism IShravasti Dhammikahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06246408068143301108noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-87467891020634875212016-11-29T08:24:06.137-08:002016-11-29T08:24:06.137-08:00Nowadays, many people have their own especial styl...Nowadays, many people have their own especial style of nutrition because they are vegetarian, certainly, they follow good purposes striving to diminish animal exploitation but some keep the vegetarian diet only because in such a way they keep up to date, so what is vegetarianism and why it is so popular? <a href="http://skywritingservice.com/blog/vegetarianism-just-a-trend-or-vital-necessity" rel="nofollow">http://skywritingservice.com/blog/vegetarianism-just-a-trend-or-vital-necessity</a><br />endy smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09226609303174199878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-70070636601676561592008-08-25T05:40:00.000-07:002008-08-25T05:40:00.000-07:00As long as you live, beings will have to die for y...As long as you live, beings will have to die for you each and every day! Do check out this blog:<BR/><BR/>http://threehierarchies.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>&quot;Plant agriculture results each year in the mass slaughter of countless animals, including rabbits, gophers, mice, birds, snakes, and other field creatures. These animals are killed during harvesting, and in the various mechanized farming processes that produce wheat, corn, rice, soybeans, and other staples of vegan diets. And that doesn’t include the countless rats and mice poisoned in grain elevators, or the animals that die from loss of habitat cleared for agricultural use. . . . Field animals may flee in panic as the great rumbling harvest combines approach, only to be shredded to bits within their merciless blades; they may be burned to death when field leavings are burned; they may be poisoned by pesticides; they may die from predation when their plant cover has been removed.&quot; ....<BR/><BR/><BR/>So in terms of food - none is without sin!<BR/><BR/><BR/>&quot;Seeing the inconstant as inconstant,<BR/>...<BR/>Undertaking right view,<BR/>they transcend all stress &amp; suffering.&quot; <BR/> - Anguttara Nikaya IV.49 Vipallasa SuttaTerrancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11183407664456597891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-28157045638415764672008-07-03T22:36:00.000-07:002008-07-03T22:36:00.000-07:00When we eat crops directly, it is not true that mo...When we eat crops directly, it is not true that more insects have to die - because the crops that meat animals consume is much more - which involves even more deaths of insects. One can also choose to lead an organic way of life. <BR/><BR/>Some links to share...<BR/>Buddhist vegetarians' thoughts:<BR/>http://moonpointer.com/index.php?catid=4 <BR/>Buddhist vege teachers' thoughts:<BR/>http://moonpointer.com/bvf.phpmoonpointerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04141339963282120527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-55938768307435890792008-07-02T02:09:00.000-07:002008-07-02T02:09:00.000-07:00Dear Venerable,This is very well-reasoned. Unfortu...Dear Venerable,<BR/><BR/>This is very well-reasoned. Unfortunately the argument normally gets bogged down in such issues as scriptural authority, without getting to the heart of the scriptural message, which is what you have just done.<BR/><BR/>Well done!<BR/><BR/>AnandajotiAnandajotihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11976447022896538872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-2483409522486059292008-07-01T17:45:00.000-07:002008-07-01T17:45:00.000-07:00A Big Mac! The thought of that is enough to put me...A Big Mac! The thought of that is enough to put me of food altogether! Thanks for your interesting comments.Shravasti Dhammikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06246408068143301108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-58111260970651967752008-07-01T17:04:00.000-07:002008-07-01T17:04:00.000-07:00I have being a vegetarian for past 2 years after s...I have being a vegetarian for past 2 years after seeing a photo of a lamb being slaughter. since then I have ponder on why people choose to eat meat. Here are some of my thoughts. They are more or less related. <BR/><BR/>1.<BR/>Usually people who eat meat do not have craving to kill. Rather they just have the craving to eat meat. This desire makes them forget that a life is actually being sacrifice for their few minutes of enjoyment. <BR/><BR/>2.<BR/>Most people are more concern about their own toothache than about thousands of victims crushed under the debris during a earthquake.<BR/>Thus they fail to realise the pain that animals went through when they are having their neck slit.<BR/>Their craving sort of 'blind' them to these images. <BR/><BR/>3. <BR/>There is also a 'If I can't win them, join them ' mindcept.<BR/>People who don't become vegetarian tends to think : even if I stop eating meat now, animals will still be killed everyday, what difference will I make?<BR/><BR/>4.<BR/>(Probably the lamest excuse of all)<BR/>Most people thinks that if you are kind hearted, there is no need for you to become a vegetarian except mayb on special occasions. You only need to become a vegetarian if you want to 'make atonement' for sins or if you are a really sinful person. Again, I felt it is just some excuse meat lover give to themselves. They jus won't admit they are craving for the big mac. <BR/><BR/>These are just some of my thoughts. But I would like to thank you for the insightful entry. It has really provide some points that I have not thought about myself. <BR/>I will be looking forward to your part 2.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-41737915390125487752008-07-01T11:21:00.000-07:002008-07-01T11:21:00.000-07:00Vegetarians probably tread "lighter" - not necessa...Vegetarians probably tread "lighter" - not necessarily in a physical sense, but ideologically. Is that because we don't bear the tremendous burden of having consumed something that once was ALIVE? Every other merit follows; i'd start with the sheer lightness of being. <BR/>Thank you for inspiring this discussion! Dbdesertboothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02961244399161878817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-67464953673555544262008-07-01T08:39:00.000-07:002008-07-01T08:39:00.000-07:00Bhante,You made some incredibly powerful arguments...Bhante,<BR/><BR/>You made some incredibly powerful arguments that made more firm my own conviction to vegetarianism. I do, however, have a question pertaining to monks being allowed meat that they hadn't seen, heard or suspected had been killed for them. <BR/><BR/>It seems that it may be construed as a tacit endorsement of killing, and, done with a blank mind may be a dull one. However, if one is offered food by people who don't understand the Dhamma as they should, but just know that you offer food to monks, then wouldn't it give them a sour opinion of monks if they refuse food that they householder sees as perfectly good? Might this cause people who would be drawn to the Dhamma to turn away after their offering was "spurned"? <BR/><BR/>I do hold that vegetarianism should be the standard, if only because people just "intuit" this as a "holy" way of being and justification is needed to support its abandonment, but I have run into situations where I know a meat additive was in a particular food offered me, and, so that I didn't create enmity, I took the food. <BR/><BR/>Thank you for this incredibly clear post!<BR/><BR/>SheridanSheridanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10806928319408002607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-58095627832904624612008-07-01T08:19:00.000-07:002008-07-01T08:19:00.000-07:00Wow, nice post, I realise how unintelligent and im...Wow, nice post, I realise how unintelligent and immature I am!<BR/><BR/>=)yamizihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07942497616476006437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-65098776605585920252008-07-01T07:25:00.000-07:002008-07-01T07:25:00.000-07:00Andrew,It is intent that matters. When you purcha...Andrew,<BR/><BR/>It is intent that matters. When you purchase meat, you cannot say that you "didn't intend" for another animal to be killed. (just my opinion until you hear from Bhante)<BR/><BR/>Bhante,<BR/><BR/>Excellent post!<BR/><BR/>I don't know if I would call some of the biological, health, and environmental arguments weak, but when compared to your most excellent five points, maybe they are!<BR/><BR/>In regard to the three-fold rule, I have always wondered why a monk could refuse alcohol placed in the bowl, could refuse tiger meat placed in the bowl, but not meat from chickens, pigs, and cows. As long as a monk is allowed to refuse some things, why not other unwholesome things?Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07714427477703354493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1012277645322483593.post-20516811638265154182008-07-01T04:44:00.000-07:002008-07-01T04:44:00.000-07:00Dear Venerable Sir,Thank you for this article, I h...Dear Venerable Sir,<BR/>Thank you for this article, I have a confession to make I eat fish and eggs and very occasionally meat. It has made me reconsider my position on what I consume.<BR/>Isn't it a fact that the cultivation of arable crops kills insects in there production so you can't win either way.<BR/>We should take this rare oppurtunity to practice vipassana meditation and get release from all suffering so best to make use of this precious human rebirth.<BR/>Kind regards<BR/>andy cAndrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794237044265280965noreply@blogger.com