I thought you where growing up a bit.Gaza is one of the most densely populated areas on the planet,there are very few open areas.Those open areas there are have been attacked nearly non stop since this started.Why because that's were most of the Palestinian resistance is dug in.

Of the 66 Palestinians killed so far 24 were children and a large proportion of the rest were woman (several pregnant) or older men (over 55).

I thought you where growing up a bit.Gaza is one of the most densely populated areas on the planet,there are very few open areas.Those open areas there are have been attacked nearly non stop since this started.Why because that's were most of the Palestinian resistance is dug in.

Of the 66 Palestinians killed so far 24 were children and a large proportion of the rest were woman (several pregnant) or older men (over 55).

It's lose lose for Israel. Collateral damage does not win them anything, only makes it worse, reinforcing harsh feelings. I don't remember every twist and turn of the Israel Palestinian conflict, but what does Hamas really want? A fair economic system, restoration of lands?, or just a good fight? My understanding is that Palestinians are faced with a high level of corruption among their leadership complicating the situation. Israel does have a right to defend itself, but it also must take significant steps to address Palestinian issues if there is going to be any resolution other than killing all of them...

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So why isn't Hamas condeming the attack and trying to help Israel find the culprits who have launched 600 missiles into Israel? If Hamas wasn't backing this don't you think they would notice that hundreds of missiles, and the launchers have been rolled into Gaza and Hamas would have told Israel about it in good faith?

No. Because it's Hamas launching the damn rockets.

The extend that people go through on both sides of this to make excuses is simply astonishing.

So why isn't Hamas condeming the attack and trying to help Israel find the culprits who have launched 600 missiles into Israel? If Hamas wasn't backing this don't you think they would notice that hundreds of missiles, and the launchers have been rolled into Gaza and Hamas would have told Israel about it in good faith?

No. Because it's Hamas launching the damn rockets.

The extend that people go through on both sides of this to make excuses is simply astonishing.

My guess when it comes to missiles flying out of Gaza and hitting Israel, Hamas is in tacit control of the situation.

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You're either trolling us or being deliberately obtuse. No matter which way you look at it, it's impossible to come to a conclusion other than Israel being completely disproportionate with their firepower.

You're either trolling us or being deliberately obtuse. No matter which way you look at it, it's impossible to come to a conclusion other than Israel being completely disproportionate with their firepower.

And you come to that conclusion based on....? What exactly?

Hell, if you want you can compare the number of rockets/bombs dropped by both sides. Tell me the proportion to that.

If anyones interested here's a link to Harry Fears stream.He's sleeping or being interviewed somewhere else at the moment.He has however left a street mic on and you can hear the constant whine of drones above.Imagine what this is doing to the children of Gaza:

Hell, if you want you can compare the number of rockets/bombs dropped by both sides. Tell me the proportion to that.

Yep, definitely trolling. Because 60+ dead versus 3 on the other side is proportionate? Or lets take "operation cast lead" of four years ago. 1300 Palestinians v wait for it... 14 Israelis, 9 of which were soldiers.

Don't make this into a game of top trumps. Human life is so much more valuable than that. Or are you more upset over the fact that you won't be able to buy twinkies anymore?

How it should and how it will are two different things. They've been fighting for so long that none of them even know why they are fighting anymore. 'Should' would be bury the hatchet and reach some compromise but 'will' will be keep on killing each other for reasons that no one even remembers why.

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Don't make this into a game of top trumps. Human life is so much more valuable than that.

Well I'm not doing that so idk what you're talking about

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Yep, definitely trolling. Because 60+ dead versus 3 on the other side is proportionate? Or lets take "operation cast lead" of four years ago. 1300 Palestinians v wait for it... 14 Israelis, 9 of which were soldiers.

In case you weren't aware, disagreement =/= trolling. So you guys can stop copying me now and trying to use that as a buzz word.

Anyway.

Of those 60 dead, who are actually civilians, where were they when they died?