The Psychosis Of Single Moms

What happens when unmarried women chase down noncommittal cads, get knocked up by them, give birth to illegitimate bastards, and then languish in despair as they quickly notice their material well-being, love life, and dating market value deteriorating immensely as single moms? They have mental breakdowns!

This post brought to you by the Committee of Helpful Reminders that a national 41% illegitimacy rate is bad news for modern civilization.

PS The Committee for Proven Solutions as Opposed to Feel-Good Solutions offers the following four-point plan for ending bastardy and reckless single momhood:

1. Shame

2. Ostracization

3. Elimination of all state-sponsored financial support, including but not limited to food stamps and mandated maternity leave.

4. Condoms

In this Christmas season, we should all be so fucking humanitarian as the spirit of this post.

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Nothing is going to change until the system collapses. The good news is that it won’t take too long: anyone with math skills can see that the welfare state is starting to break down and within twenty years it will be done for.

In the meantime, learn some game and wear your party hat while you party so you don’t wind up like poor Brad.

Institute a regressive tax system, whereby the poorest members of society, who utilize the social welfare system the most, are made to pay the highest tax rate, thereby forcing them to carry their own weight.

While the richer members of society, who are less and less dependent on the forced-charity of others for mere survival depending on how much money they make, pay only a small percentage of their earnings in taxes which are used for only the most basic of public utilities such as roads, police/fire/hospitals, and the military.

Institute a regressive tax system, whereby the poorest members of society, who utilize the social welfare system the most, are made to pay the highest tax rate, thereby forcing them to carry their own weight.

is it just me, or is it wrong for tax payers to be forced to wait for food stamp users in line at the store? Shouldn’t there be some sort of shaming mechanism or at least a reward to those who have jobs? Also, maybe you shouldn’t be able to use the things at Whole Foods.

Also, the po’ don’t have a problem taxing me, so I return the favor if I could.

Whitemonk yup damn those terrible jooooos. The white person is a naive little snowflake who has been conned right? Cuz whites are naive like that? Look at what you are implying. Not very flattering for your master race.

Don’t you know, you’re never allowed to criticize or even comment on any choices a woman ever makes?

Be the Good Man and shut up. Stop proving to women how men are really pigs. If we’re quiet and reflective and supportive of all women all the time, regardless of social conditions or results, they’ll be nice to us and respect us.

What exactly will be the driving force for putting feminism back in the bottle? There’s certainly no hope in our political system, which continues to erode liberty and put a bigger squeeze on the productive class in order to give free cheese to parasites that vote. There are so many people on one or another form of free government cheese that there’s no collective political will to shrink government. The shrinking of government will only happen as the the productive tax base erodes, and even then the voters will continue to vote for more free cheese instead of liberty and the enforcement of property rights.

Having a child raises the standard of living for some women. She can then discard the FOB in favor of her Surrogate Husband.

Her Surrogate Husband will give her WIc, earned income credit, child care credit, Section 8 housing, welfare cash, food stamps, rent assistance, Medicaid, free school meals, and in some states will subsidize her home purchase. ObamaCare will expand Medicaid eligibility to higher incomes, thus relieving more women with babies of the need to marry. Men should be advised not to marry unless they can outearn Surrogate Husband.

Have you ever visited a homeless shelter? The residents are almost all men. Women with babies go to the top of the free housing lists. Men stay in the shelters.

What did all women of all ages and cultures do when found pregnant with no husband? They either pressed their needs upon the FOB, or their family of origin, or found a sugar daddy. Today, Surrogate Husband will rescue her, and upgrade her standard of living.

At age 38-40, her youngest child will age out; she has another newborn, and Surrogate Husband will ante up for another 18 years, until her age of 56.

What happens when unmarried women chase down noncommittal cads, get knocked up by them, give birth to illegitimate bastards, and then languish in despair as they quickly notice their material well-being, love life, and dating market value deteriorating immensely as single moms?

The single moms are just mentally challenged proxies for the real ring-leaders.

And the ring-leaders don’t have children. They just die off.

Problem kind-of solves itself.

But the liberal-feminists can’t even discuss their own demise. It’s against their rules.

It’s so painfully obvious that they’re engaging in wholesale demographic suicide; worse, their compatriots are helping the cause by encouraging population replacement.

The replacements do *not* share any of the niceties the feminists do: few immigrants believe in “multiculturalism”, and are rabid ethnic chauvinists of the old-school variety; practitioners of other religions, especially Islam ,share none of the core beliefs of liberal ideologies and are actively hostile to them, facts which liberals are tragically willfully ignorant of;

Liberals and feminists will scream bloody murder when they see the writing on the wall, but this is a basic truth:

They’re brought absolutely everything down on themselves. The seeds of their destruction were obvious from the start, in hypocrisy and willful blindness.

And the worst thing?

They just can’t see it.

The upshot: By not breeding and not promoting their own values or culture (which their own values and culture won’t permit them to do), they’re consigning their entire philosophy to extinction. It will happen soon enough.

I’m not confident that feminism is on the way out, but I do see a rebalancing coming up. Men are learning that hierarchy and domination are nothing to apologize about, and we will once again feel pride in attaining submission and dominance over a loving mate. Maybe not generally, as a sex, but moreso.

Economically I don’t really see women becoming destitute, nor can I envision a drastic reduction in their monetary social entitlement. I’d like to see more guys simply dump their unmarried pregnant girlfriends and skip town and become invisible. Yes, I’m not thinking of the children – I’m thinking of the more valuable social asset, which is the grown man who we’ve already invested in. A grown man must be worth hundreds of thousands in invested time and money, a fetus is worth the cost of the abortion or the cost of the mothers diminished quality of life. If the guy didn’t want it, it’s a sad shame to see him enslaved. Social good or no – I’m anti slavery.

So I’d like to see more deadbeat guys, and I’d like to see more men learn to treat women in ways that gives them the obvious upper hand at best, or at minimum doesn’t leave them at a disadvantage. I expect to see more of the latter – men are starting to not pedestalize women as much, and there is an actual growing anger at them.

Actually, there is an enormous movement in the US right now in favor of radical plans to reduce the size and scope of the federal government. Our fed and state governments have already imploded financially, with some notable exceptions. Part of the fallout will be rolling back destructive feminist law and policy, which has helped to cause, and continues to cause, society to regress.

I’m with Evan in thinking that the only workable option is to work with those who would restore a healthy, wealthy, creative society. The alternative is cynicism and despair.

askjoe – “is it just me, or is it wrong for tax payers to be forced to wait for food stamp users in line at the store? Shouldn’t there be some sort of shaming mechanism or at least a reward to those who have jobs?”

Hogwash. For your position to hold water, you’d have to make a compelling case that the unemployment rate went from 4% to 9.8% because millions of Americans suddenly decided they didn’t want to work. I’m sure it’s a comforting thought for you to believe that everyone unemployed and drawing assistance is lazy and unwilling to work, but it’s not reality.

There’s plenty of rhetoric about decreasing government, but not much actual decrease. Sure, there’s some government layoffs going on now, but it’s nowhere near what’s happened in the private sector. The private sector has been decimated.

Furthermore, the cutting that’s going on is only the minimum requires to kick the can down the road. I don’t see many people seriously talking about banning unions of public employees or about ending our military adventures abroad or stopping the “war on terrorism” or the “war on drugs.” Just look at Obamacare or the new “food safety” bill. Local governments everywhere are increasing taxes instead of making painful decisions.

My personal effort in this noble quest:
When the pregnant single ladies share their news in giddy, joyful tones I always inquire if there will be a marriage. If the response is “no,” I counter with “oh” (delivered in glum, accusatory tone).

Evan, that belief certainly has no foundation as long as people believe it has no foundation. Perhaps we should all live in villas outside Florence when the plagues hit, or move back to the monasteries when the dark age tribes return. I’ll probably be in the city when it all starts to burn, in the bucket lines.

Greenlander, we still have obstacles sitting in important chairs at the federal level. When those chairs have new occupants, things should pick up speed. I don’t see clover, but I think it’s reasonable to expect improvement.

Evan, that belief certainly has no foundation as long as people believe it has no foundation.

Then you will educate the people, and they will come around! Or is it that your analytical grid, and not the peoples’ belief, is mislaid?

Also mislaid is your analogy. You won’t be dousing the flames of anything as treasured as Florence centuries ago. You’ll be trying to patch together something quite different. I for one am rooting against your efforts, and hope we might actually get some room to move outside the crummy paradigm in which we are trapped.

Anyway.

There’s plenty of rhetoric about decreasing government, but not much actual decrease.

To that point,

The Tea Party sounds so often like the Left because it is for the most part a product of the Left. Its people were educated in public schools, watch mass entertainment, and have absorbed most of the leftist values of the elite class, to whose rule they object only quite selectively. From the demonstrators’ perspective, that elite isn’t patriotic enough in backing America’s crusades for human rights and in looking after the marvelous welfare state we’ve already built. The Tea Party types are understandably upset that their entitlements may be imperiled, if the current administration continues to run up deficits. This is the essence of their anti-government rant. And above all they don’t want more illegals coming into the country who may benefit from the social net and who may be receiving tax-subsidized medical care.

As others have noted, i indeed expect demographic pressure will be the major factor of the western world’s demise. However, america’s strength has always been the gaining of new immigrants to compensate for this pressure, so, ironically, a feminist – based state needs the importing of patriachal – orientated immigrants in order to survive. however, seeing as it will eventually gain the lion’s share of immigrants from Mexico, i also expect Mexico to be the cause of america’s demise as mexican immigrants don’t assimilate. Mexico may then even replace the US as a superpower, provided it does not follow it’s feminist – orientated demographic course. economic policies matter little, as we have seen troughout history

Nothing is going to change until the system collapses. The good news is that it won’t take too long: anyone with math skills can see that the welfare state is starting to break down and within twenty years it will be done for.

Feminazi-ism is on the decline… unfortunately, it’ll probably take down our way of life as we know or at least make sh*t real obnoxious for everyone else, as intertwined in everything as it’s gotten, on the way out.

Yes, I agree. When I refer to collapse I’m not referring to the glorious, pornographic money shot that reactionaries and white nationalist thrill to, in which everyone forgets that centuries of egalitarianism and decades of third world invasion happened.

Instead we’ll turn into Brazil. Shakey infrastructure, tribal landscape, corrupt politics. And we’ll stay that way for my life time at least.

Oh man….this blew my mind. Woe unto me cuz I am a girl and woe unto single men. How the hell will soceity make it? It cannot…

This is so profoundly screwed up and sad for men and that poor baby.

Dat bitch is freaking nuts. Wow. This has to be a American girl. Has 2 be.

As for the collaspe it is on its way. China/Russia dumps the dollar last week, Gold imports to China is surging, unemployment is rising, there are no jobs, there is no such thing as recovery in a freaking depression…America is dithering over all kinds of BS issues b/c they do not understand that this is post America.

The right and left are calling for the death of Julian @ wikileaks. both sides are epic fuck ups.

You feminists must be laughing in joy. Destroying the family, ruining men and women, complete chaos. Thanks to femisnism and neoconnery of the medias and banks.

Decreasing illegitamite children rates can not come with a culture that openly permits and encourages “free loving”. In the long run it’s either one or the other. One can not simultaneously support and advocate for both. I honestly can not think of any society where free loving and absence of illegitamite children occurred simultaneous (and both on a widespread scale) and would be very curious to hear of any that did or do exist. This is why the 4th solution (condoms) will not and does not work. The majority of women permitting their children to be born fatherless often are of lower intelligence and socioeconomic background. Should condoms rain down on them like manna from the heavens, I doubt it would help decrease the spread of STDs or zygotes.

No doubt this cum dumpster was sleeping with multiple men. My money says Brad was the most nurturing of these men so she’s claiming he’s the father. Maybe he really is, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he wasn’t.

Was the collapse of the Soviet Union slow? It collapsed in 1990, only 30 years after its zenith in 1960. Was the military coup in Kazahstan slow? Was the downfall of Saddam’s Iraq slow? Only 35 years ago Spain was a dictatorship. Was the beheading of King Louis XVI slow? Was the Russian Tsar’s family was shot slowly in 1918?

Certainly, the Russian, French and Spanish cultures lived on. However, the governments themselves changed quickly.

The article you’ve cited is about cultures collapsing. Western culture will exist and be felt in some form for centuries to come although it will slowly collapse if feminism continues. It’s government-sanctioned misandry that’s killing us now, and that can change overnight in the right circumstances.

As others have noted, i indeed expect demographic pressure will be the major factor of the western world’s demise. However, america’s strength has always been the gaining of new immigrants to compensate for this pressure,

Spoken like a true… Canadian.

so, ironically, a feminist – based state needs the importing of patriachal – orientated immigrants in order to survive. however, seeing as it will eventually gain the lion’s share of immigrants from Mexico, i also expect Mexico to be the cause of america’s demise as mexican immigrants don’t assimilate. Mexico may then even replace the US as a superpower, provided it does not follow it’s feminist – orientated demographic course. economic policies matter little, as we have seen troughout history

Feminists here champion not having children and do nothing to build: They only take and regulate.

In a very real sense, they’re not “progressive” – they have nothing to replace the structures they’re destroying with. This is conscious.

As Mackinnon said, Feminism is a Socialist Revolution. The object is to bring down and destroy.

In reality, it’s a massive Shit test. We should have put it down, but failed to do so – so as the marriage heads to a divorce when the shit-test is failed, the marriage of ideologies and peoples that created civilization is headed towards its inevitable end.

Women don’t *create* wealth: they have no idea how to. They’re very, very good at redistributing it. They take no risks and don’t build. They don’t make bread; they spread butter.

It’s not obvious, unless you’ve taken the red pill. Women are absent from the ranks of innovators because they don’t. They also don’t fix things, aren’t interested in maintenance, and don’t innovate because they lack a certain degree of creativity as a sex (though often not as individuals).

The obvious truth of this would be immediately apparent to anyone observing any human society anytime anywhere.

By giving women ultimate power over men, even morally, we’ve betrayed ourselves, our civilization (entirely constructed, for better or worse, by almost all-male work and creativity – and not because women were denied the chance), and ultimately our women.

There was a reason men infantilized women in the past. They truly do want rights without responsibilities.

Feminism is all about the right to do anything you want but the responsibility to answer to no-one for the consequences for your actions.

Being male is all about the obligation to consider consequences – look at how both liberals and conservatives speak to men and women. It’s the same.

Trust this:

When time comes to pick up the pieces, it will, once again, be men doing it.

When women whine about how they’re mistreated or men look down on them, just treat them as little wayward children. They Know Not What They Do.

We truly would be living in nothing but grass huts without men. What’s shocking is that most feminists think this is fine.

(until a group of patriarchs move in and take away the womens’ options – once they’ve killed off their own patriarchs).

Virtually every single technological, ideological or social advance has been conceived of, created or engineered by males. Usually with the promise of reward at the end (power, ergo power to get women and access to sex and reproduction).

After reading the exchange between the father and his “unborn daughter”, I have to wonder what angered him the most- arguing with his unborn child, or arguing with her on facebook? Either way, it seemed a lose-lose proposition. In addition to calling Social Services, he should notify facebook about his daughter having a facebook page; I believe that Facebook has a minimum age requirement, and a think “unborn yet” violates it.

Girly Girl,
So true. It takes sperm to make a baby, If you make one, pay for it yourself! Except for the nutjobs who poke holes in condoms, no woman ever got pregnant without a guy willing going bareback. No such thing as ‘free’ lovin.

People who have babies and expect taxpayers to foot the bill for his/her upbringing are no better than spongers who borrow from friends and family with no intention of paying it back. This goes for baby mama and baby daddy equally. Except for the nutjobs who poke holes in condoms, no woman ever got pregnant without a guy willing going bareback. Yeah, I know rubbers break. And that is my problem how? Double bag it or buy better condoms. No such thing as ‘free’ lovin.

The shaming of illegitimate parents in the good old days rained down on the dads and the moms. As a beleaguered taxpayer, I fully support garnishing wages of either/both parents to repay taxpayer assistance.

“I for one am rooting against your efforts, and hope we might actually get some room to move outside the crummy paradigm in which we are trapped.”

I don’t think we’re disagreeing about that. It sounds like you want everything really to crash so that something else can be rebuilt in its place. I guess I believe it’s infinitely harder to do that than to modify (however profoundly) something that exists. For starters, the collapse might not be survivable.

I joined a dating site recently. The amount of single mothers on there is absolutely ridiculous. And the dumb bitches go on and on about how “independent” they are. Trawling for some sucker to pay for their bastard thug spawn, and they’re “independent”.

The profiles themselves are a collective sign of the times in their own right. Most are obese, and there is a major tendency for the chicks to talk about repulsive, afeminine traits as if they are proud of them.

“I can be a real bitch”

“Sarcasm is like a second language to me”

“Im one of the guys, dude”

“My career comes first”

“I am uncomfortable with my lack of penis”, etc.

I actually saw this quote on one girl’s profile, I swear:

“I’m selfish, impatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am out of control and at times hard to handle. But if you can’t handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don’t deserve me at my best.” – Marilyn Monroe

They project the fucked up qualities they find attractive in men onto themselves… Their “female intuition” telling them that guys are attracted to domineering career bitches with tattoos sordid sexual histories.

Gorb, I agree with you about Islam. The more closely Muslims adhere to the Koran and follow the example of Mohammad in the hadith, the closer to the bottom of the social shitcan their abusive, parasitic, dysfunctional societies will remain.

So we have to distinguish between patriarchies by how they treat males. In Western versions, males are privileged and rewarded when they’re risk-takers, creators, and producers. In Islamic patriarchies, privileged males are put on silk pillows and told merely to supervise — work being beneath themselves. Look no further than Saudi Arabia.

I don’t think we’re disagreeing about that. It sounds like you want everything really to crash so that something else can be rebuilt in its place. I guess I believe it’s infinitely harder to do that than to modify (however profoundly) something that exists. For starters, the collapse might not be survivable.

Obviously there are explanations behind each of these positions that aren’t going to get fully ventilated in this thread. I got a weekend to get. LATA!

You have it exactly. You’re not even allowed to think outside of the box in Islam – it’s actually forbidden.

Islam is most concerned with creating a 7th-century status quo and maintaining it.

The ironic thing about Islam in the West is that feminists and multiculturalists are its biggest allies – and these are the characters who would be first up against the wall or stoned to death in Islam. It’s a one-way love affair. Islam is in the marriage for the passport, and will ultimately kill the sponsor; the sponsor is in it to piss off her father and is delusional about her suitor.

Regarding point #3, I would be sure to include a ban of free school lunches. I was shocked to learn that a full 50% of the students attending my local (large) school district receive free lunch.

Some would say it’s not fair to punish the children for the parents mistakes. I disagree. Because they have their fathers bad boy DNA, bastard children are guilty from the day they are born. Because so many bastard boys grow up to be thugs I would argue society is better off for them not to be well fed. Full nutrition will just make them become bigger, stronger thugs. As for the girls,they will grow up to be attracted to bad boys just like their mom so I have no compassion.

3. Elimination of all state-sponsored financial support, including but not limited to food stamps and mandated maternity leave.

3. Not just state sponsored financial support, but also state mandated “child” support.

If a woman wants a man to help support her child she should be providing ongoing wifely services to him, such as appealing sex, companionship and cooking etc.

Whether a man supports his bio child, which may be an oops accidentally on purpose pregnancy on her part (and she could have gone with plan b, abortion or giving up to adoption while he had no such choices), should be completely up to him.

This post couldn’t have been timelier. I have a guy friend who has a son and the son’s mother told him that he needed to take custody of the kid because she is feeling suicidal and panic attacks. Of course, she is still keeping his over $500 a month in child support while he takes care of the kid. He says she is just money hungry and her mind is so screwed up because she keeps letting random dudes stick their dicks in her who then run off. She got pregnant with his child at 17 but afterwards had 2 or 3 abortions by different men. I hope she gets her act together and he gets custody of his son.

These sorts of situations are sad all around.

Men: if you are doing to be an Alpha do what Tucker Max did and take that chick to the local planned parenthood BEFORE you have sex with her so you KNOW she is on birth control. Don’t be stupid.

i don’t get the worry about bastard or “illegitimate” kids being the norm. pretty sure these were just legal terms for inheritance within royal systems. i disagree that the “high rate” is going to spell doom and gloom for america (though this site has that tendency so whatever).

what’s more of a problem is single parenthood in general…having only one parent in a kid’s life fucks them up and makes life harder on everyone.

1) When children are born, there’s a mandatory DNA test.
The father is immediately determined. This is always done.

In Marriage:

2) If not his child, then he’s legally entirely off the hook for its support. Period.

3) If his child, he’s on the hook for it (he was married).

Not in Marriage:

2) The child is not his. He has no further legal role in the child’s life.

3) It *is* his child. Then the man is asked to acknowledge it.

3a) Acknowledges it: Then he’s on the hook for child support BUT he ALSO gets VISITATION and PARENTAL rights. Of course.

3b) Does not acknowledge it. The woman is required to sue him for child support. IF SHE WINS, he also MUST be granted parenting rights.

Parenting rights must be enforced for child payments to continue.

Conditions:
– The State does not pay.
– Child support is *geared to his income*, to a maximum designed to keep the child above poverty
– Payments MUST assume that the woman will be working. If she’s not working, this does not affect his payments.
– He retains 50% parental rights. If the woman marries another man, then these parental rights are not extinguished. If the child is adopted by another man, with the agreement of the father, then his parental obligations are extinguished as are his rights.

3C) In cases of deceit (using sperm from the condom, stealing sperm, etc.) – if this can be shown, then no child support is forthcoming. In fact, the woman should be on the hook for fraud and can be sued and possibly tried in court. The child can always be given up for adoption if this will cause hardship for the child.

And about what Gorbachev said to Feh: “You have it exactly. You’re not even allowed to think outside of the box in Islam – it’s actually forbidden.

Islam is most concerned with creating a 7th-century status quo and maintaining it.

The ironic thing about Islam in the West is that feminists and multiculturalists are its biggest allies – and these are the characters who would be first up against the wall or stoned to death in Islam. It’s a one-way love affair. Islam is in the marriage for the passport, and will ultimately kill the sponsor; the sponsor is in it to piss off her father and is delusional about her suitor.”

You’ve got it. They want to party like it’s 799 and left/libtards think it’s just a common hatred of Republicans.

My personal effort in this noble quest:
When the pregnant single ladies share their news in giddy, joyful tones I always inquire if there will be a marriage. If the response is “no,” I counter with “oh” (delivered in glum, accusatory tone).

I can’t believe the attitude of begruding a child free lunches. In a lot of cases that may be all this child eats that day. I know there are children with parents capable of working on plans like this and WIC and foodstamps. But I would rather see a hungry child being feed and kids of a few deadbeats parents slip in there and receive a free meal than see a child go hungry trying to keep someone from getting something for free.

Speechless,
There’s no such thing as a free lunch. Those free school lunches are being paid for by people who are responsible acting and didn’t have children they can’t afford to feed. There’s a concept called “moral hazard” which many people don’t seem to understand. If you reward reckless behavior like having children you can’t feed, then you’ll get more and more people who do that until no one is left to pay for it all because everybody needs to have the government feed their children. Then what?

If–tho its not possible with our current politics–but if a man had NO obligation for any child he fathered with a woman,if she was not married to him,wouldnt that impinge on your beloved Alpha lifestyle??

I know myself and other taxpayers are paying the bill for these free lunches. I would rather pay for free lunches for children of deadbeats than let children go hungry. I do not have children. Can see you point regarding reckless behavior, but hungry children must be feed.

John

Good point — no obligation for any child would completely in time do away with Alpha lifestyle.

You would rather the children of deadbeats eat a free lunch than go hungry. But did you ever stop to think if free lunches (and all the the other welfare programs from a-z) didn’t exist there wouldn’t be so many children of deadbeats in the first place? Because of the welfare state women can indulge their most base animalistic istincts in sexual selection. They can and do choose deadeats and if theyget knocked up they face no consequences whatsoever as big government plays the role of father figure. We have reached the point where this has become the norm. Can’t you see where society is melting down because of it. this can’t continue to go on.

I know a few different guys who would have liked to have children and raise a family. They have good jobs, they would have been good fathers..their children would NOT be on food stamps or getting free lunches. They would have been provider betas, a cornerstone of civilization. Instead women rejected them as being too nice and boring,,they never got to raise a family like they were born to do..instead they have indulged in their hobbies all their lives, oh and paying taxes to support the bastards created by deadbeats and the women who love them. So you think you are being compassionate by wanting to feed fatherless children, your good intentions have paved the road to the hell were in..where the family has become a subculture.

I was chatting up a sexy Latina chick once, wanted to bang, things were good until i told her i have a secret, i told her that girls use me for sex (funny cocky line) – she says i have a secret too, i have a kid. I thought she was joking, she wasn’t, laughing caused a crazy reaction. When i told her i’m not interested in raising someone else’s kid, she told me that was a turn off.

Really? Being a mom was way more of a turn off. They are insane. She seriously wondered why guys took off as soon as she mentioned this.

Adding my two cents, one important addition to the list is an effective reversible male birth control pill. Right now the only thing available to men is either condoms or to get snipped.

Feminism really took off in the early 1960s when the pill became available for women. This effectively decoupled sex and children which brought both pleasure and freedom and the destruction of the family.

I think if men had the same option it would be a real game changer. Women would no longer be in near total control when and with whom they would have a child with. The men who would most likely use a MBCP would be those who had the most to lose. Men with money or a future could simply say that the Nor-Plant comes out after the Pre-Nup is signed.

Was all this worth it because he blew his load? Never mind, don’t answer it. The omegas and the some betas( the ones that can’t get laid) should consider themselves lucky that they don’t have to go through this shit. Thank god women in this country reject me, I don’t have to get married, don’t have to have kids, don’t have to have a mortgage. They are doing me a favor.

Jay Fink: “Because of the welfare state women can indulge their most base animalistic istincts in sexual selection. They can and do choose deadeats and if theyget knocked up they face no consequences whatsoever as big government plays the role of father figure. We have reached the point where this has become the norm. Can’t you see where society is melting down because of it. this can’t continue to go on.
I know a few different guys who would have liked to have children and raise a family. They have good jobs, they would have been good fathers..their children would NO be on food stamps or getting free lunches. They would have been provider betas, a cornerstone of civilization. Instead women rejected them as being too nice and boring, they never got to raise a family like they were born to do..instead they have indulged in their hobbies all their lives, oh and paying taxes to support the bastards created by deadbeats and the women who love them.”

And it ain’t just the Beta guys… I’m (a lesser Alpha on Roissy’s scale and) getting divorced (kicked to the curb at the “seven year itch” point for the second time in my life, despite that I get hit-on by married women looking to “trade up”) because I “don’t need” her… she’s already been “used” and dumped by some tool she pines after (screw her, she ain’t getting back here now). (Women want an insecure faux “Alpha” that gets ’em wet with a lot of posturing and other douchebag antics but has emotional vulnerability they can have something in-common with and control him by… lack vulnerability and they find they ain’t got a handhold on you; crying doesn’t work, go have a beer ’til they calm down.) Looking for Ms. Next in the interim, I’ve already been selected against for some asshole douche-job (an “on again, off again” boyfriend who treats her like a glorified bootie call) because I have self-control and am responsible even though, being military, I do it with firepower and extreme predjudice (see, John Wayne would get the shaft too). At 40 now, I thought I’d be raising teenagers like my parents did at this point… the times they have a frickin’ changed.

1) Convince the man to acknowledge the child and then give him half of the parental rights. Both parents are now fully financially and personally responsible for the child in equal measure. This can be parsed out such that it’s actually equal and it’s also good for the child. No more automatic custody to women – ever.

If she doesn’t want the man involved, then she gets no child support. Period. QED. She’s stolen the child from the man; therefore she’s not entitled to his help in raising it.

That absolutely has to be the only fair quid-pro-quo.

2) If the man refuses to acknowledge the child, then she can sue him – but if she wins, 1) above occurs. She’d better be sure she wants to win. She’s *not* just going to get a paycheck.

3) Get an abortion.

If she *has* the child, and wants support – she’d better have a plan. If she’s not married and the father doesn’t acknowledge the child, then she may end up having to raise it herself.

At the trial for #2, the man can argue that she could have had an abortion. If her belief system forbade her from doing this, then perhaps her belief system should have forbidden her from sleeping with the guy.

Look, fairness is all very simple and straightforward. It’s completely fair to women and to men. Feminists champion abortion so it can go easily:

You can raise the child on your own or you can get an abortion. The man – even if the natural father – was not offered a choice on the abortion, and it’s HER body. So it’s HER child. Have fun.

*NO* state support must be given (that’s a separate issue). No enforced child support paychecks unless the father acknowledges the child.

So far, the law basically turns men into slaves: All of the responsibilities, but none of the rights to anything. Women have every single decision-making right.

This way, a woman is guaranteed access to abortions (feminist goal), complete and total power over her own reproductive strategy–

But she doesn’t get to milk the system or get a free ride from some poor male sap.

I say give the feminists what they want. Don’t let them have their cake and eat it too (situation right now).

Make them eat their cake.

Fair is fair – they can’t complain.

So: If the mother appears incompetent in raising the child, … perhaps the natural father can be given first option to adopt. In which case his parental rights (and responsibilities) are re-activated. Of course, this means that the woman’s will be nullified.

It’s entirely easy to come up with a fair system. Also straightforward.

It’s not rocket science.

Men just have to start acting like actual males and stand up for themselves.

PRCalDude and WNs (weenies and ideologically blinded non-men) and liberals (delusional dimwits) and conservatives (head-in-sand throwbacks) and religious nuts (pie-in-the-sky dreamers) all suffer from the same mindset.

The truth is: None of these ideologies allows space for men, and male interests, let alone celebrates being a Man. But even WNs trumpet White Women. Their interests are to be protected. Men are nothing.

If these fucktards want to collectively destroy the country and worship women as if they were indicators of sainthood, go for it. I have nothing but contempt for WN’s of all stripes. WN men have had their testicles removed. And female WN’s are particularly disingenuous about their motivations for keeping out non-white women from their social dystopias.

White Nationalism is inherently socialist – communalist. It’s also inherently anti-male. It always has been. Even when it was just the good-old boys, it was the same.

Fuck them all.

The *only* good thing about a WN regime would be that there would be no minority underclass. But the retarded white People of Walmart proles would still be a massive chain around our necks, a disgusting racial embarrassment, and our women (fat, ugly, aggressive and assertive women who like browbeating men) would dive the price for their fat-obscured pussy through the roof. Men would be subject to scrutiny about every aspect of their lives.

Screw that.

Even if I agreed to a WN agenda in keeping the white population distinct and pure, I could never agree to the rest of their shitty programs. The rest is crap. I’d sooner vote for Conservatives. At least their crap is known crap.

The rank poison of socialist thought infects all of these group-think movements.

Truly, we men have to at least defend our individual interests. Even if we don’t bite the socialist group-think bullet.

Imagine being put in jail because you fucked a super hot black woman or decided that a smart, well-behaved, feminine Asian woman (not fat!) was a better wife than any of this white trash we have floating on the top of our slimy American ocean getting drunk and fucking every guy on the country’s lacrosse teams.

Douchebag and Creepy are two popular male-shaming words that are expanding to include almost all men.

Douchebag: It’s getting to the point where it includes any man that has confidence in himself and even worse, has the audacity to be unapologetic about it. Since men enjoy shaming and putting each other down, no help needed from women here. While we’re talking about race (again), I’ll add that douchebag is usually reserved for white men. As we know white men being confident, masculine, and unapologetic is forbidden. White men must be effeminate goofy nerds or brooding and charmless. A confident, guilt-free masculinity is not allowed for white men as it is for black men (e.g. rappers) and hispanics.

Creepy: Any man that…likes women. If you’re a beta or less, you’re automatically creepy, even if you just momentarily glance at a woman in the mall. If you’re an alpha, you’re a creep to a girl if you like a woman other than her and do nothing to hide it. She still wants you though.

Creepy was mostly used by women to shame men, but I’m seeing it used by men more and more. Guys, stop using the word creepy. It’s a girl word. You’re falling into the trap of helping modern society shame men and male sexuality.

worst part is women all have to learn from first hand experience. They think things will go back to normal after they have a kid. They get bitter and become complete bitches when they get the fat ugly girl treatment and no longer can get attention from men even though they look the same. They are easy fucks though

“Douchebag: A 39-year-old man called police after being assaulted by his girlfriend. He told officers that he was in the residence that he shared with the suspect when she suddenly started throwing alcohol on him.”

Well, complain all you want, but our society caters to single mothers. It’s like they are some protected minority or something. Women are basically getting a big, free ride in return for irresponsible behavior. A very perverse incentive.

People who smoke and get sick get no sympathy, and that tobacco tax they pay doesn’t pay for their health care. It just goes into the general medicaid fund here in Maryland. Guess who gets the major share of medicaid money? Single moms I am sure get a bunch. There is also a line item in the tobacco settlement budget expenditures for breast cancer.

So, until men in this country start agitating and voting properly, this nonsense will not stop. The problem lies with the young betas (the majority) who just haven’t figured out the system yet. The greatest public service possible would be for Roissy’s advice on women to be universally propagated. (His views on politics might be a bit controversial.) Where is Wikileaks when you need it?

Meanwhile, enjoy! This party won’t last much longer, and, you are not getting any younger!

As Girly Girl said, condoms don’t help. We’re already throwing them at kids like a pederast throwing candy, and the illegitimacy rate just keeps going up. Condoms only encourage people to think of sex as consequence-free; so when one breaks, fails, or isn’t handy, the randy little buggers who have been taught to expect regular safe sex are hardly going to abstain.

The first three points are all necessary, though. And that doesn’t mean a mother and child should be pushed out in the snow to die. Churches and other organizations cared for single mothers back when society still considered illegitimacy a shameful thing. They loved the sinner while hating the sin; nowadays we call that a hate crime.

Single motherhood, like every other aspect of the pathology industry, is a big business. It’s not about right or wrong. It’s about jobs, yet-another-bureaucracy, and big budgets being funded that year or not.

Like researching a “cure” for breast cancer the true aim is to ensure that never happens. Millions of pink ribbons = billions of green dollars every year.

Fuck. I saw this situation firsthand, but in a slightly different scenario. A coworker of mine broke up with his unemployed hog of a girlfriend for cheating on him with two different guys, then got back together a few weeks later when she mysteriously became pregnant.

My coworker didn’t bother with a paternity test and wholeheartedly accepted the massive burden of caring for a child who’s probably not his, as well as his cheating girlfriend’s bitchy, ever-expanding waistline. The entire male population of our company told him he needs to find out if the kid is his, yet he refused and instead rewarded the mother’s shitty behavior with an engagement ring. The women in our company praised his decision to get married.

Needless to say, I was pretty fucking shocked to get a friend request from “his” unborn child on Facebook a few weeks after the marriage proposal. Same thing as above, except it’s the father who set the facebook page up. An exemplary display of betatude.

Our society is a bunch of spoiled ‘hos and douchebags… anybody who isn’t just gets the dirty end of the stick when it comes to having a family and a nice life any more.

As one commentator put it (though somewhat fictionalized for the current day and for the current war):
“This generation is so Goddamn spoiled and lazy they they wouldn’t know a real threat to their freedom until it interrupted the power source to their X-box and killed half a million people!”

“Well, complain all you want, but our society caters to single mothers. It’s like they are some protected minority or something. Women are basically getting a big, free ride in return for irresponsible behavior. A very perverse incentive.”

Gramps nailed it. They’re being rewarded for their bad behavior, so they are NOT going to change, we have too.

Gramps, you are exactly correct but I would add another element to your comment. Men need to organize politically. It is not enough to go out and vote every four years. Many of us are doing that now. What men need to do is build organizations, and fund the hell out of them, that will allow for such things as media coverage, legal teams, voter information, opposition research, etc. Basically, we need to do what the women did 40 years ago. The funny thing is that men have one ability that our opposites do not share in proportion, the ability to raise money. If that ever happens, and I hope it does, we will begin to see positive changes.

You can only win in a system that is set up against you by passive strategy in your mind, or both. We all are forced to play the game by living, the problem in the USA is the culture of compliance, once that ceases to exist so will the system at least as it is now.

For all the blather about “family values,” we see traditional two parent families disintegrating in the USA. Of course, if the government were really interested in the family then it might do any of the following:

* Have some sort of qualification to get married so it just doesn’t become something to do on impulse (leading to quick divorce). Some states have “covenant marriage” concepts.
* Make divorce much harder to obtain.
* Penalize women for having children out of wedlock.

On the latter point: please note that the government has no hesitation in penalizing men who do not support children alleged to be theirs — I think we all know of the police state regimen of the child support bureaucracy. Supposing, say, that women who chose to have children out of wedlock lost their driver’s licenses? (We can make exceptions for women who were raped, or whatever.) Her body-her-choice-her-responsibility.

Of course, none of this is going to happen. It is in the interests of the government to wreck the family. The family is one of those institutions of an old order which stood in counterbalance to the expanding power of the state and its corporate partners. The more single mothers, the more rationale for an expanding bureaucracy of child support/custody/protection. The more single mothers, the more lone women who need the state to protect them with everything from SWAT teams kicking in doors to pornscanners at the airport. The more single mothers, the more alienated single men who have little stake in the system and thus are less of a competition to those in power.

This is why it will take something of a revolution to change the system.

As for the coming collapse, I’d say this is not an apocalyptic event in the future, but something that is gradually happening even as I type. Some symptoms:
* The de facto open borders, leading to mass migrations.
* The domination of inner cities by gangs, recognized in some law enforcement circles as quasi-insurgents.
* A middle class which is sunk in apathy, more concerned about who is on “Dancing with the Stars” than what is going on in Wall Street.
* The increasingly police state measures the government is enacting to fight terrorism, this despite a decade of supposed “war on terror.”
* Fill in the blanks.

The real thing is to get oneself organized and prepared for the darker days ahead.

A society thrives or dives based upon the strength of its men. A weak bitch guy society that caters to the weaker, emotionally driven sex, will fall and be replaced by a society of strong men who will keep women in their naturally submissive (and happier) place. This nation will stand or fall depending upon whether its males continue to prostrate themselves and lick the feminine feet or stand, clash their swords against their shields, and let out an angry, gutteral, shout.

Game + amoral, entitled femininity are wrecking balls to a weak society.

Mark
“Speechless,
There’s no such thing as a free lunch. Those free school lunches are being paid for by people who are responsible acting and didn’t have children they can’t afford to feed. There’s a concept called “moral hazard” which many people don’t seem to understand. If you reward reckless behavior like having children you can’t feed, then you’ll get more and more people who do that until no one is left to pay for it all because everybody needs to have the government feed their children. Then what?”

Mark, you are on the money. Unfortunately, expecting a woman to understand the concept of “moral hazard” is almost always futile. Their inability to grasp cause and effect is one of the principal reasons why allowing them to vote is a principal cause for the decline of America.

Met a 31 year old awhile back, the offered me her phone number unsolicited, after about 30 minutes of convo.
I was well dressed as I had just come from work.

I phoned her about a week later, and she was quite rude on the phone, apparently she was working 3 jobs as an ‘actress’, and was stressed and tired.

Got off the phone with her and didn’t bother phoning her back, seeing as she was acting like a real bitch.

She then showed up at the same place a week later, being all nice and friendly. She had a meagre ten dollars in her wallet, bought a glass of wine, then I thought, okay, I’ll test her by buying her a glass of wine as well. But really, at that point, I just wanted to get away from her.

After I finished my drink, I got up, said it was ‘nice seeing her’ and that I had to go….. and what does she do? Waives her empty wine glass at me, asking if I was going to stay for another, and implying she wanted me to buy her another as well….

“*Why* are MBA workers required to work such long hours? Corporate middle managment jobs used to be the classic 9-5.

The reason is obvious. As women flooded into our colleges, MBA programs and junior positions in the business world, the male power elite needed to find an excuse for keeping them out of the inner circles of power. The long hours (and you can add the inhuman travel schedule involving three-week trips to Tokyo and/or weekly domestic flights all over the US to the mix) are a trumped-up new “job requirement” designed specifically to discriminate against women.

This trick will only work, however, as long as *male* executives are spared from the same cruel “career or kids” choice that currently faces women. Women need to stop agreeing to raise men’s children for them. They need to stop “opting out” and becoming stay-at-home moms. That supposed “choice” has a ripple effect that harms *all* women trying to make it in the workforce, by allowing men to “have it all,” devoting all their energy to obscenely well-paid careers while also reproducing.

Let’s have a generation of young women who loudly proclaim that they won’t have any kids (as happened in Europe, with great results) or that they’ll have kids as single mothers using donor sperm, banding together with other mothers to work out cooperative childcare arrangements that allow for a work/life balance.

Some women are already doing this, and, no, I don’t mean just lesbians.”

@CoreyHave any of you guys ever considered taking a year off, and going to work in a place like South Korea or Thailand as an English teacher, and finding a girl that way?
I agree with you 100 percent, American women, especially white women, are totally insane and not worth dating or marrying.
But there are many nice girls in Asia, and if you are looking for married life, well, I would recommend marrying an asian woman. It’s a very fast growing trend, white American men marrying Asian women. And, American women get FURIOUS when they see it happening, because they know that they can’t compete with the asian girls.

I happily endorse this idea. A most excellent idea for American men. Or any Western men. Get thee out there.

Hey, Great Books for Men is right about Bernake butthexing our way of life with his inflated fiat money…

“Such a complete disconnect from reality doesn’t happen on its own.

It is where moral relativism, the cornerstone of progressive thinking, inevitably leads. Decades of teaching people that the state is their bottomless benefactor hasn’t just ruined economies around the globe. It has ruined the people themselves.”

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