Tuesday, August 23, 2005

Police shooting

39th and Giles. Looks like an off duty copper in barber shop lit up a stick up man. Details still trickling in.

UPDATE: Bad guy wounded. Seems the copper was getting a haircut and goof tried to stick up the joint. Copper identified himself and drilled the asshole. Copper and everyone else OK. Sounds like a good shoot all around.

UPDATE II: Here is the Tribune story. Frank and Fran are still trying to work in some racial profiling angle for tomorrow's slum-times.

Yes, I agree. I bet Rev Meeks demanded that the Barber skip everyone in line...since he's such an important state senator. Little did he know that the robber would've shot him in his fat head if need be. Peace on earth

Meek's driver plead guilty to all four traffic tickets in court today. Meeks didn't even send his driver a lawyer to fight the tickets. His driver could not prove that he had insurance and subsequently plead guilty...even though the judge offered to continue the case.

His driver admitted that Meeks ordered him to go around the Sgt at the intersection after the Sgt was stopped for a whole 4 seconds. What a joke!!

Meeks should not only have been arrested but also have been searched for heroin..as his fellow pastors have been arrested for. Rev Meeks and Jakes and Jesse in 08!!!

all the revs. showed up and had a meeting last night...chairman of police/fire committee introduces ordinance to tell police how to conduct a traffic stop...oh, and he'll have hearings regarding racial profiling...traffic stop stats shows african americans stopped at higher rate than their percentage of society.

what about comparing it to the rate at which the victims report that the offender is of that race? maybe you'll see some similiarities then.

or...what about the amount of police service that is dedicated to those areas?

when cars are being stripped from other districts to be sent there and every unit of the dept is focused there of course you'll have more stops...gimme a break already.

another fancy tidbit...parkers written by cpd down about 15%. tv reported that # written down from 1.15 mil to 1 mil through same time last year. revenue the same due to fine increase.

Can someone tell me why and who sanctioned the second highest ranking officier to speak on our behalf on GCI? I mean as much as I love WGCI I don't listen. Why did they choose Dana for that role????????????????????????????

I was just wondering if rev meeks had any comments on african americans being victims and Offenders of homicides in much greater numbers than there percentage of the population.( our citys favorite stat that you dont hear about now that we arent going down anymore)

Reverend Meeks and the City Council are working on a code of conduct for all barbers, beauticians, and would-be armed robbers. Going forward, barbers will be required to use clear plastic capes when cutting the hair of off-duty officers so as to avoid any misunderstandings among armed robbers as to when it is safe to proceed with their robbery.

As a society, we can no longer tolerate police having an unfair advantage over barbershop robbers stemming from the use of cloth barbershop capes.

A prayer Meeks should share with his congregation: God bless and watch over the police and their loved ones and forgive those who sacrifice the guardians of society on the alter of public opinion for political gain... Amen.

2.5 times the population of Chicago, and on-track to have less homicides than Chicago (again).

NYC is down from 2000 or so at the peak, and it stands in stark contrast to Chicago in terms of population. Chicago losing population, NYC gaining or holding steady once again.

If Chicago stays on this track, its just going to be drug dealers, drug users, murderers, welfare recipients, ghost payrollers, the Daleys/Joyces/Mells/Jacksons and other core democratic constituencies. And the Police.

Now, now , now don't paint New York in such glowing terms. They too play with the numbers, we went there to learn how to play games with numbers, thats why the homicide clearance caluculation was changed to instantly boost kleins clearance rate 25%. If NY did it leg. they would have had 3000+ more homicides the year of Sept 11. They lie better than we do but we're getting better.

You bet your ass that we lie about the stats. Kline learned to play games with crimes stats from one of the best around his good friend Bill Hanhart, who was there when Pam Zekeman did her story on "killing crime". Oops we shouldn't mention Hanhart, do you think that Kline still breaks bread with him once a week.

well whoever we sent there for school the first time better go back for summer school then.

Even if we are both playing with the numbers, New York's homicide rate is now 40% of Chicago's, where they were both once essentially equal (rate = per capita). So do the politicians and brass in the City of Chicago get an "F" in health class for having 300+ too many homicides per year, of an "F" in math class for not knowing how to subtract 300+ deaths from the sheets the way they would in New York City!

Thats a lot of bodies to bury. You think the liberal media can't figure out where NYC is burying the 750 extra bodies it would have this year if it weren't being run any better than Chicago(e.g., if it were Chicago)? The liberal media would use any reason they could to get rid of a red mayor in a blue town. But nope, not even the liberal media can find that story. Not even the New York Times or CBS!

and if you believe Chicago wasn't playing with numbers (and stories) before Giuliani was even born, I've got a bridge in, er, a Captain's spot in the State's Attorney's office to sell ya! Interested?

Anonymous 8:39pm,Do you have your head up your ass. First, being shot at has been an Agg Assault for some time now. Second, regardless of whether a Homicide is cleared Justifiable it is still a Homicide and goes on the count. Does fuck go to the joint, probably not but if the Dets who are working the case want to go that way then shame on them

NYC went from 2200+ homicides a year to about 850 the first year they implemented their new counting strategy. There is no statistical probability that a city of 8 million people did that thru Bratton's "Broken Window" strategy. They killed crime by counting it differently. Otherwise, the would have closed a bunch of the morgues and laid off coroners. That didn't happen. That would have made the news.

And the trick they used to shed the 9/11 numbers was calling them "casualties of war," a category that never existed before then.

Remember, there are lies, there are damn lies and then there are statistics.

"I can't remember shots fired at someone being an aggv. battery (with no in custody) ever."

It was for case reporting purposes until about (guessing here) 3 or 4 years ago. It changed around the same time home invasions, which used to be reported as robberies, were changed to burglary as the primary classification.

>>NYC went from 2200+ homicides a year to about 850 the first year they implemented their new counting strategy. There is no statistical probability that a city of 8 million people did that thru Bratton's "Broken Window" strategy. They killed crime by counting it differently. Otherwise, the would have closed a bunch of the morgues and laid off coroners. That didn't happen. That would have made the news....

Remember, there are lies, there are damn lies and then there are statistics. <<

NYC never went from 2000 homicides to 850 homicides in a single year.

According to the information in the following chart, it went from 2245 in 1990 to 2154 in 1991.

So yes, there are lies, damn lies and statistics. And then there are people who just make shit up in the finest of traditions which we have been taught.

as recent as about 4 yrs ago, if a person was shot at (not hit) it was classified as an aggravated battery for case reporting purposes, and that is where these stats are derived from. that has been changed to aggravated assault. of course you'd never get charges approved but their stats are compiled from the case reports, which now classify this as an aggravated assault.

Along the lines of the change in reporting, this is the way that the OE(now with an M)C's call classifications were created, and this is the way people were trained there.

Its also based on the common (and I suspect almost universally the statutory) law definition of "assault" versus the common (and I suspect almost universally the statutory) law definition of "battery". The old way of classifying people who were shot at but uninjured (not even incidentally like when they jumped under a car and scraped their knee) seemed contrary to the very definition of "battery".

Nevertheless, I still recall how the old (perhaps still used) UCR of "041A" or was it "041B" was used as a classification for both those who needed to have a hole plugged and those who merely needed a change of diapers.

So yes, if they changed it, it would seem to be in line with conventional usage of the terms (and I suspect the way the rest of the country was defining agg batts and agg assaults).