And yet again, because of the NRA's "Guns for everyone and guns everywhere" 2 more law enforcement dead, 4 shot, this time Michigan. The NRA needs to make up their minds, are they anti government "gotta prevent government tyranny" or are they really for supporting law enforcement? The logic doesn't seem to be working out well for them. They want a paranoid society to keep government in check, but they also want a paranoid police force to protect you from paranoid people with guns.

(11-07-2016 02:59 PM)onlinebiker Wrote: But -- but -- but -- it's ILLEGAL in Michigan to carry a gun into a courthouse....

They've got cops with guns and metal detectors at all of them.............

But SOMEHOW -- it's the NRA's fault........

Uh, huh........

Dude -- with only one idea in your head -- isn't the echo deafening???????

Thanks for falling for that dipshit.

Ok, allow guns in courthouse AWESOME...... So what is to stop an angry parent from shooting the accused rapist while they are being charged by the judge or during their conviction? Good riddens? They deserved it? Then what would be the point of lawyers or judges or juries if we all get to shoot people we don't like?

No fuckwad, it happened because of bad training, or not enough staff, or not the proper restraints and or improper procedure.

And you also forgot that the Dallas police where confused by the open carry that were there and could not tell if there were one suspect or several and that made it take them that much longer to figure out there was only one.

Court in a court building, if one bad guy pulls an officers gun and civilians with guns react to that, they are not stress trained and could hit the court officer, and in return, if civilians pull their guns the court officers aren't going to be able to tell if they are there to defend them or the accused. Or that civilian could accidentally hit another civilian.

You have this bullshit image that mere target shooting is the same as stress shooting like military and cops have to train for. Guns do not automatically mean you win, most of the time trying to use one in response to someone else, especially when you are not cop or military stress trained, you are going to get hurt.

A the bullshit meme of a civilian successfully protecting themselves from a stranger or in an active shooter situation is NOT the norm, in fact it is only 3 percent.

Now, you know who finally shot this guy? Another TRAINED court law officer. AND that is the only way it should be.

Yea it is the NRA's fault even in this case. They do everything they can along with the GOP to stop any law that might fund things that would even prevent this. Like more staff and better training . FUNDING is also part of it. And they are hitched to the GOP that cuts funding for everything, even preventing a study on gun deaths.

(11-07-2016 05:27 PM)Dark Wanderer Wrote: Did a gun sleep with your wife or something? You seem a bit angry at guns.

No, but do have two bullet holes in my moms antiques from when my dad got drunk off his ass when I was a kid and fired a gun with me in the room. But I bet you think "no record at time of buy" is qualification enough. I do take this personally because foot here or a foot there or an inch here or an inch there or the bullet bouncing off and hitting me.

Here it comes " That was your dad, not me"

Yea, I have such an unhealthy fear of guns. Tell that to the Orlando victims and the Charleston victims and the two dead black guys and the 5 Dallas cops.

That is the problem with gun worshipers, you don't fear guns. GUNS SHOULD BE FEARED YOU FUCKWAD, because they are not fucking toys. But no no no, you don't treat yours like toys do you? Missing the point that nobody is fucking taking about you personally.

No, a gun didn't sleep with my wife, but you your insensitive sarcasm to gun deaths as if it is just collateral damage, and the price you pay for living in a free society, makes me think you fuck your own gun. No, you don't but your blindness of "I wouldn't do that myself" makes me think we should pass a "gun marriage law" so you could legally marry yours. Instead of two signatures on the licence you'd have yours and a bullet hole.

Yea, you are making light of the fact I am pissed off, well fuck you. I am tired of hearing about gun deaths every single day, not just street gangs which an idiot like you might think is the bulk of the problem. Not just mass shootings, but even out here in the sticks where I live it is happening, murders with guns. Murder suicide where the spouse dies shoots the baby, who got lucky and survived, then killed himself.

Lucky my dad didn't suffer from depression on top of being drunk, could have been worse. But hey who gives a fuck, a mentally ill guy like the Va Tech shooter also didn't have a record at time of buy.

(11-07-2016 05:27 PM)Dark Wanderer Wrote: Did a gun sleep with your wife or something? You seem a bit angry at guns.

No, but do have two bullet holes in my moms antiques from when my dad got drunk off his ass when I was a kid and fired a gun with me in the room. But I bet you think "no record at time of buy" is qualification enough. I do take this personally because foot here or a foot there or an inch here or an inch there or the bullet bouncing off and hitting me.

Here it comes " That was your dad, not me"

Yea, I have such an unhealthy fear of guns. Tell that to the Orlando victims and the Charleston victims and the two dead black guys and the 5 Dallas cops.

That is the problem with gun worshipers, you don't fear guns. GUNS SHOULD BE FEARED YOU FUCKWAD, because they are not fucking toys. But no no no, you don't treat yours like toys do you? Missing the point that nobody is fucking taking about you personally.

No, a gun didn't sleep with my wife, but you your insensitive sarcasm to gun deaths as if it is just collateral damage, and the price you pay for living in a free society, makes me think you fuck your own gun. No, you don't but your blindness of "I wouldn't do that myself" makes me think we should pass a "gun marriage law" so you could legally marry yours. Instead of two signatures on the licence you'd have yours and a bullet hole.

Yea, you are making light of the fact I am pissed off, well fuck you. I am tired of hearing about gun deaths every single day, not just street gangs which an idiot like you might think is the bulk of the problem. Not just mass shootings, but even out here in the sticks where I live it is happening, murders with guns. Murder suicide where the spouse dies shoots the baby, who got lucky and survived, then killed himself.

Lucky my dad didn't suffer from depression on top of being drunk, could have been worse. But hey who gives a fuck, a mentally ill guy like the Va Tech shooter also didn't have a record at time of buy.

How about you idiots go find some victims families of gun deaths who know we have a gun violence problem, and try to convince them we need more guns. Unless you are willing to do that, you are simply making excuses to justify your own selfishness. I am sure you feel like you are a good guy, and I am sure you have an idea of "I know what I would do if", but that narcissistic confidence of I will win every time, is not the norm with guns.