Did this trail this morning. There was not a lot of traffic when I went. There was 10 people that I came across at 5 different occasions. Once you park, the trailhead is .1 or .2 miles away. The trailhead states that the trail is 4.2 miles long, however, I don’t think that adds the distance of the “extreme” trail. My distance at the end was 5.9 miles and it took me 2.5 hours. I’m personally out of shape and found some parts of the trail strenuous. However, the trail was well marked and I took the more difficult trails. This trail is surrounded by the city, but offers amazing views.