Ground grappling starting back to back is retarded. [a tangent thread from MABS]

back to back is retarded

6/30/2007 2:45pm,

mcjon

Quote:

Originally Posted by UpaLumpa

back to back is retarded

thank you for your insight.

6/30/2007 3:10pm,

NeverMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by UpaLumpa

back to back is retarded

Another intelligent well thought out comment from Umpa Lumpa. Don't you have some songs to sing?

Spezza, as I and McJon pointed out, you are flat out wrong regarding the Judo tournament. I find it interesting to see how many people are so ready to jump on something other than BJJ/MT and make FLAT OUT FALSE claims, which I am sure they KNOW TO BE FALSE, just to make it look bad. If anything, THAT'S bullshido.

6/30/2007 3:37pm,

UpaLumpa

What more is needed for such a stupid fucking training practice?
And it is Upa, not Umpa.

6/30/2007 5:29pm,

Somebody

Quote:

Originally Posted by UpaLumpa

back to back is retarded

No more retarded than any session starting in an "equal" position. Whether on the ground or standing, I have found that none of my real-life conflicts (only two full-out fights since I have been here) have started off on even ground. It is training, and nothing more.

7/01/2007 10:35pm,

jnp

Starting on your knees is as bad as back to back in my opinion. Neither bears any resemblance to what you might encounter in the street, in the ring or even a grappling match.

7/02/2007 9:01am,

UpaLumpa

After takedowns and scrambling through positions I've often found myself face to face on knees and chosen to attack from there rather than reengage standing (particularly if my opponent is better on their feet). I've never ended up sitting se-zan back to back.

Also, at least form knees facing you can work some basic pummeling and see how to break an opponents base/posture. This has application to other aspects of grappling (e.g. guard and butterfly guard) so it is a useful pedagogical tool unto itself.

7/02/2007 9:10am,

GoldenJonas

It also conserves mat space which is a precious commodity in larger classes where everyone wants to grapple.