by your math stinks of account sharing?….remind me to never let you do my taxes.The tile war was during a very active time for us .face it our members care about our faction and we will not let each other down.we do NOT account share.ive been in this faction for four months and can from the bottom of my heart say I dont know of a single time an account was shared while ive been here,if things happened before that let it go those players either dont play anymore or now in your faction

That’s fine, I take your word for it. However, please don’t get mad at me for finding it difficult to believe you managed to coordinate (at times) 10+ people to hold loses. I have done conquest for a while now and there is that one person (usually me) who doesn’t like to go into a specific chat and will get a random loss.

LOL just because you are a retarded at following simple directions doesn’t mean the rest of the world operates like that. If we all have to behave according to your standard, heaven help us all because apparently, idiocy is not only acceptable but should be encouraged.

You know what? I’m going to post like you now. Shut up you warlike bot, warlike brothers is full of botters. I have no proof, but that doesn’t mean your sh*t faction isn’t botting.

1 more post and you will officially not be an alt account!

No way, go me!

Sadly, no amount of posts will make you not a bot. And a stupid bot at that :(

OMG I can’t name a person? But how am I going to complain? Because you know what the darkest part about all of BW? There is no alt equality!

That’s right, some alts have better surging skills, card pool, etc. than others. This isn’t fair! I urge all of you to petition this person I can’t name but is the original account holder of all the 150 accounts in BW and make him treat all his alts fairly! All alts should be equally loved.

- In quite some wars they have 50 active members fighting the war.
- Banana+ told me that some of their members maintain an lp gain of 400+ per day up to 600 on some days!
- I have personally kicked some actual BW members out of my former factions because of low activity. I wont call out any names on the forum but if BW is interested in the names I gladly share them. It seems hard for me to believe they become super active now.

Currently we have a pretty high activity level but there were definitely periods where a couple of members go AWOL (net negative over 7 days). We have swapped out inactive members from time to time but some also leave on their own accord when they feel that they wouldn’t be able to commit the time they want to Tyrant. I’m sure your faction has cleaned up its rosters every once in a while too to maintain activity level?

Every faction have some amazing members who can maintain an lp gain of 400+ per day, but not every member in BW does that. I can assure you personally…

As for your 3rd point, I think only those members can tell you what’s going on.

I’m an atheist too but I’m all for celebrating people’s religious holidays. In fact I think it’s terrible how Hannukah, Kwanza, Ramadan, Spring Festival, etc. are not recognized as federally recognized as statutory holidays. +1 for more days off :D

-1 Christmas can beat up all those holidays

- __ – this isn’t MFC the holiday edition.

but forgot, -1 to the original topic because I have nothing to do on Dec 25 but Tyrant anyways :p

I’m an atheist too but I’m all for celebrating people’s religious holidays. In fact I think it’s terrible how Hannukah, Kwanza, Ramadan, Spring Festival, etc. are not recognized as federally recognized as statutory holidays. +1 for more days off :D

Just out of curiosity, since the onus is on the accused to prove innocence, what proof would invalidate your (and the other people’s) claims of bw cheating?

I have no idea. I’ve never seen anybody prove they weren’t acc sharing.
I guess the best evidence would be activity levels throughout the day, number of times canvas link was loaded, IP addresses from which the canvas link was loaded, basically stuff that would indicate either a lack of or a presence of the account being accessed by multiple people.

:( I think this is the issue. You are one of the few who has made the most reasonable claims out of this mess, without resorting to fallacious condescension, and it still results in a deadlock.

I don’t think IP lists are conclusive either as they can be manipulated via proxies. Thanks for giving me a straightforward answer though.

TL;DR: please stop accusing BW unless you have some form of proof or suspicious behavior.

Let me just guide you through the logic chain I made yesterday.

Do you remember Pescado, botmaster?
A lot of people suspected he was using bots.
They were correct.
Do you remember EliteCareBear14, the extremely cursed booster?
He confessed to many things people suspected him of doing.
Do you know about DULO, suspected bot faction?
Nobody has provided evidence that they were real players, and EnixSR provided evidence that they were bots, despite the leader insisting the faction was clean.

Now, on to Better World.
People have widely suspected BW of acc sharing. There is no evidence to disprove this, however, there have been 2 catfaces in the past, both due to acc sharing.

What does this tell me?
It says that unless you come up with concrete proof, there is no fucking way you are going to be clear of suspicion. Unfortunately, here, it’s guilty until proven innocent.

Just out of curiosity, since the onus is on the accused to prove innocence, what proof would invalidate your (and the other people’s) claims of bw cheating?

You are correct oohnirav. BW is 149 accounts of alts and all members share accounts, being alts and all. The one man is awake 24/7 to generate activity on all 150 accounts as well as talk to other faction people from different accounts so it wouldn’t be suspicious. He even talks to himself in private faction chat from all these accounts so he wouldn’t be lonely.

But, since its only one man, this faction do not have measurable success in anything Tyrant, since we (or I?) have no tiles and cannot invade other factions tiles, loses 100% of faction wars, etc.

Does this make you feel better now?

I wanted to find a picture of a farmer cutting down a straw man, but the sad part is that this is actually closer to the truth than what DANzam111 claims.

The truth won’t make you feel better now, but it will help you in the longterm. Embrace it.. or you can keep making fallacious arguments. Unfortunately, I am aware of the option you and your alliance cheaters will pick based on your history (which supposedly doesn’t repeat itself, according to DANzam111.. wow, that is easy!).

I realize I’m making a fallacious argument but nothing I say will change your opinion one way or the other. Why don’t you show me up by making a non-fallacious argument then so that I can learn from your virtuousness?

And my inquiry was for your well-being. Being an “alt” means I don’t have feelings to better.

You are correct oohnirav. BW is 149 accounts of alts and all members share accounts, being alts and all. The one man is awake 24/7 to generate activity on all 150 accounts as well as talk to other faction people from different accounts so it wouldn’t be suspicious. He even talks to himself in private faction chat from all these accounts so he wouldn’t be lonely.

But, since its only one man, this faction do not have measurable success in anything Tyrant, since we (or I?) have no tiles and cannot invade other factions tiles, loses 100% of faction wars, etc.

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