That's pathetic, and I'd be annoyed if I was on either team in that game. Hacking is just, well, pathetic. I don't see how it would be anything other than boring for the hacker and annoying for everyone else.

Apparently it's cool to be in 'Demi-God' form and watch the other team suffer. This guy deserves even less respect since he died with all that firepower! Just checked the guys GT and it's a fresh account, so it's no skin off of his hide.

Not funny or cool at all in matchmaking so fuk them. Would be fun and hilarious in customs though.... Gonna have to start getting those Majestic Map Pack Achievements legit before those cheaters start preventing people from getting them legit or at all.....

That's pathetic, and I'd be annoyed if I was on either team in that game. Hacking is just, well, pathetic. I don't see how it would be anything other than boring for the hacker and annoying for everyone else.

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How would someone find that fun....idiots...

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1 Game. Maybe 2. After that it'd just be boring. Now if everyone in the game had the same setup, that could be fun for awhile longer. Definitely more interesting.

There's a reason videos with titles like "Angriest Kid on Xbox Live" or "CoD Blast Shied Trolling" are insanely popular. I'm sure if this modder started a channel dedicated to trolling online with these mods, many people would find it hilarious and entertaining, especially if he generated angry responses during & after the game. Personally, whether or not I was modding, I would find it goddamn hilarious if everyone on the other team were raging at me; be it for shotgun camping, rocket-whoring or just plain teabagging. Trolling, most times, is most enjoyable for the person doing the trolling; that's why they're called trolls and why you're not supposed to feed them. For most, this wouldn't get boring in the slightest.

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It would be fun to try for a few games but probably not worth the ban. I've not encountered any game changing hacks / mods / glitches really apart from the little complex wall glitch on flood.

Most modders are aware of the incredibly simple way of obtaining an infinite number of 2-day or 14-day Xbox Live trials (depending on whether you redeem them on the Xbox or website). So to many dedicated modders (like the one in the video), this is plenty worth it.

And should they get console banned, it can be side-stepped with a simple keyvault swap. KV's can be insanely cheap if you buy them in bulk.

tl;dr: well-versed modders basically play online for free and aren't inconvenienced in the slightest in the event of a ban

There's a reason videos with titles like "Angriest Kid on Xbox Live" or "CoD Blast Shied Trolling" are insanely popular. I'm sure if this modder started a channel dedicated to trolling online with these mods, many people would find it hilarious and entertaining, especially if he generated angry responses during & after the game. Personally, whether or not I was modding, I would find it goddamn hilarious if everyone on the other team were raging at me; be it for shotgun camping, rocket-whoring or just plain teabagging. Trolling, most times, is most enjoyable for the person doing the trolling; that's why they're called trolls and why you're not supposed to feed them. For most, this wouldn't get boring in the slightest.

You're probably right that this wouldn't get boring for a lot of people. And personally, I also find it funny when people rage at me for doing better than them. But it wouldn't be nearly as funny to me if I was only doing better because of this stuff. I'm far from an expert player, I get my ass kicked more often than I do the kicking, but that just makes it more fun when I do win. Winning without a challenge quickly feels hollow. *shrug* Just my view.

Oh, but as far as the rage filled videos. I admit, this one made me laugh alot. :P

There's a reason videos with titles like "Angriest Kid on Xbox Live" or "CoD Blast Shied Trolling" are insanely popular. I'm sure if this modder started a channel dedicated to trolling online with these mods, many people would find it hilarious and entertaining, especially if he generated angry responses during & after the game. Personally, whether or not I was modding, I would find it goddamn hilarious if everyone on the other team were raging at me; be it for shotgun camping, rocket-whoring or just plain teabagging. Trolling, most times, is most enjoyable for the person doing the trolling; that's why they're called trolls and why you're not supposed to feed them. For most, this wouldn't get boring in the slightest.

There is a difference between people raging because someone is simply better than them and people raging because someone is a cheating modding asshole.
Having said that I don't find rage vidoes, hack videos, people raging at hack videos funny or entertaining in the slightlest, and don't see why anyone would. Or troll videos in general for that matter.

Trust me, it is. I use to do it a lot on MW2 (PC) and until I got a VAC ban (oh n0ez!!!) it was the funniest shit. Seeing and hearing all the abuse from pre-pubescent children really makes for a good time.

There is a difference between people raging because someone is simply better than them and people raging because someone is a cheating modding asshole.

I don't believe I said there was. I simply said that other people (read: not you) enjoy listening to people rage as a direct result of their actions, "cheating" or not. You think that super-bouncers back in Halo 2 didn't enjoy people bitching and moaning at them? Wait, don't answer that; we both know you won't respond honestly so you can keep up this silly charade of yours.

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Having said that I don't find rage vidoes, hack videos, people raging at hack videos funny or entertaining in the slightlest, and don't see why anyone would. Or troll videos in general for that matter.

So we're to assume you don't feel an inkling of satisfation when an enemy rages into his mic just after you assassinate him? Or when you ruin an enemy's gauss-turret perfection attempt and listen to him bitching at you in post-game? Sorry, not buying it.

Also, if you think hacking is "anything but pathetic", then I'll also assume you haven't seen the flippin' amazing custom gametypes and maps created via modding.

Luckily I haven't encountered any cheater like that online. But yesterday I met one guy named CursiveBasher87 (apparently he is a modder) who has a Believe stand without mastering any Forerunner ordnance.

Luckily I haven't encountered any cheater like that online. But yesterday I met one guy named CursiveBasher87 (apparently he is a modder) who has a Believe stand without mastering any Forerunner ordnance.

There have been bugs with Halo 4's Commendations recently. I may not play the game anymore but it doesn't stop me from keeping up-to-date with how glitchy it is.

Also CursiveBasher87 is one of the randomly generated gamertags that you start off with after first joining Xbox LIVE.

Luckily I haven't encountered any cheater like that online. But yesterday I met one guy named CursiveBasher87 (apparently he is a modder) who has a Believe stand without mastering any Forerunner ordnance.

Damn the flood is comming.

His gamertag sounds generic, so it's probably another 14-day trial account used for modding. And yes, I believe he's a modder if what you said it true; there's quite a few ways to mod your gamertag to have all armor unlocks including stances.

I don't believe I said there was. I simply said that other people (read: not you) enjoy listening to people rage as a direct result of their actions, "cheating" or not. You think that super-bouncers back in Halo 2 didn't enjoy people bitching and moaning at them? Wait, don't answer that; we both know you won't respond honestly so you can keep up this silly charade of yours.

O_o O_o O_o

I've never played Halo 2 so have no idea what you are referring to there. And I'm being 100% honest thanks.

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So we're to assume you don't feel an inkling of satisfation when an enemy rages into his mic just after you assassinate him? Or when you ruin an enemy's gauss-turret perfection attempt and listen to him bitching at you in post-game? Sorry, not buying it.

I prety much answer that with the first part of my post that you quoted here. There is a difference between rage caused by hackers and rage caused by someone being better. Anyone finding the rage caused by hackers funny is quite frankly pathetic, I'd be just as annoyed if I came across a hacker. Anyone finding the rage caused by them being beaten by a better player funny is more understandable but I personally don't. For a start, 9 times out of 10 I'm in a party and can't hear anyone else in the lobby anyway, but I couldn't care less about other people's reactions really. All I care about is my own fun and enjoyment.

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Also, if you think hacking is "anything but pathetic", then I'll also assume you haven't seen the flippin' amazing custom gametypes and maps created via modding.

Ok maybe I should have phrased that better originally. Hacking a game, in this way, for your own benifit, is pathetic. I never stated it as a "all hacking always is pathetic", though I thought that would be pretty clear from the way I worded my post that I was simply referring to the original video...
That said, I don't agree with a lot of hacking as it can go wrong (i.e. the Borderlands 2 graveyard save "virus" that went around thanks to hackers) but that's for a different topic.

Also, raging because someone assassinated you doesn't make the other player "better". Raging because you otherwise put a wrench in their workings is more to what I'd call it; this can be achieved with or without modding.

They have some bizzare ideas of fun then, because playing like the hacker in the original video would bore me to tears in about 10 seconds.

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Also, raging because someone assassinated you doesn't make the other player "better". Raging because you otherwise put a wrench in their workings is more to what I'd call it; this can be achieved with or without modding.

There is a difference between people raging because someone is simply better than them and people raging because someone is a cheating modding asshole.

So we're to assume you don't feel an inkling of satisfation when an enemy rages into his mic just after you assassinate him? Or when you ruin an enemy's gauss-turret perfection attempt and listen to him bitching at you in post-game?

I prety much answer that with the first part of my post that you quoted here. There is a difference between rage caused by hackers and rage caused by someone being better.

raging because someone assassinated you doesn't make the other player "better". Raging because you otherwise put a wrench in their workings is more to what I'd call it; this can be achieved with or without modding.

Did I say that did make someone a better player? No.

No? You basically extrapolated that if you assassinated a player or ruined their killstreak and they raged, you're practically a better player than them. If that's not what you said, then I'll ask again:

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So we're to assume you don't feel an inkling of satisfation when an enemy rages into his mic just after you assassinate him? Or when you ruin an enemy's gauss-turret perfection attempt and listen to him bitching at you in post-game?

Note that it has absolutely nothing to do with being better than them, so I strain to see why that should be any part of the answer that you've shared above.

I only asked this question because in a previous post you claimed not to enjoy or understand why others find "rage videos" funny or entertaining. I merely took the logic and applied it to you personally in the event that someone rages at you for otherwise inconveniencing them in their quest in achieving a perfection, an impressive killstreak or any other significant feat in online multiplayer, and whether or not you'd be amused or entertained.

Maybe another question is needed;

You are continually teabagged by a player on the other team; this has been going on non-stop for 6 minutes. You know he camps in a certain corner of the map. Upon heading there, you notice he just got out of a firefight with a teammate; no shields. He turns the corner and you pop him dead with the headshot. Cue the unbriddled rage, screaming into his mic about how he had just received enough kills for a perfection before instantly dying. You wouldn't feel the least bit of satisfaction that another player raged as a direct result of your actions? You realize that his rage isn't due to you being a better player, but rather your spoiling his attempt at a covetted perfection medal. I imagine two answers:

1) Yes, you would be entertained to any degree to know that an action you took in-game affected another player so intensely and that how much they're taking it seriously leaves you amused.

2) No, you wouldn't find it funny in the least and you would have absolutely no response emotionally -- this means you won't feel any tinge of satisfaction, anger, sadness or guilt. You will be purely stoic and silent, no reaction generated.

If you answer 2), I will see why you would not understand why players are entertained by rage videos or other players raging at them. If you answer 1), then you should be able to understand why players may find rage videos entertaining (most of which are featured without the use of mods or "hacks").

edit: OnTopic: It seems the youtuber has added a new video. It's featuring some new mods, too. It seems there's two modders in that game; they both finish with 700 and 635 points respectively (both have 40 kills) while everyone else has around 100 points and below.

If it's anything similar to his previous videos on Reach, if anyone else is using the Suppresor, they'll be able to shoot lasers as well (which explains why he's using the suppressor as it's known to be the weakest, and subsequently least popular starting weapon.) Now all he needs is that trusty JTAG aim-bot.

No? You basically extrapolated that if you assassinated a player or ruined their killstreak and they raged, you're practically a better player than them.

O_o I didn't say anything like that. I didn't even mention assassinations so why you keep fixating on those I don't know. You're putting words into my posts here.
Ok maybe not being killed by a better player overall, but being killed by someone who handles the specific firefight you get into better and kills you legitmately, i.e. not by being a hacking cheating asshole. Raging because someone gets the better of you is pointless. Raging because someone is hacking is quite understandable. It's still not entertainment though.

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If that's not what you said, then I'll ask again:

Note that it has absolutely nothing to do with being better than them, so I strain to see why that should be any part of the answer that you've shared above.

I only asked this question because in a previous post you claimed not to enjoy or understand why others find "rage videos" funny or entertaining. I merely took the logic and applied it to you personally in the event that someone rages at you for otherwise inconveniencing them in their quest in achieving a perfection, an impressive killstreak or any other significant feat in online multiplayer, and whether or not you'd be amused or entertained.

Maybe another question is needed;

You are continually teabagged by a player on the other team; this has been going on non-stop for 6 minutes. You know he camps in a certain corner of the map. Upon heading there, you notice he just got out of a firefight with a teammate; no shields. He turns the corner and you pop him dead with the headshot. Cue the unbriddled rage, screaming into his mic about how he had just received enough kills for a perfection before instantly dying. You wouldn't feel the least bit of satisfaction that another player raged as a direct result of your actions? You realize that his rage isn't due to you being a better player, but rather your spoiling his attempt at a covetted perfection medal. I imagine two answers:

1) Yes, you would be entertained to any degree to know that an action you took in-game affected another player so intensely and that how much they're taking it seriously leaves you amused.

2) No, you wouldn't find it funny in the least and you would have absolutely no response emotionally -- this means you won't feel any tinge of satisfaction, anger, sadness or guilt. You will be purely stoic and silent, no reaction generated.

If you answer 2), I will see why you would not understand why players are entertained by rage videos or other players raging at them. If you answer 1), then you should be able to understand why players may find rage videos entertaining (most of which are featured without the use of mods or "hacks").

I answer 2. I wouldn't care in the slightlest about his rage reaction, if he reacted that way. That doesn't mean I have no reaction when I kill someone in a game, I enjoy that purely because that's the whole point of these games and that's where the general enjoyment comes from. Don't take that to mean that I care about it when I hear someone rage after I kill them. That has no influence on my level of enjoyment. So no, I still don't understand why people find it funny or entertaining to watch videos of people raging.