A new search for a missing Satsuma, FL girl might be in the works at this time.

Just over ten months ago, then 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings was taken from her father’s home in the middle of the night. So far, only a few verifiable facts have been learned of the events leading up to her disappearance and nothing has been learned of her present whereabouts.

News/Talk 97.3 The Sky has spoken with a representative of The Laura Recovery Center in Friendswood, TX this morning to get verification on the rumblings we’ve heard from interested 3rd parties elsewhere.

The representative we spoke with Friday morning said a meeting would be held today to see if this case will be one they will be able to accept.

The Laura Recovery Center offered its assistance early in the investigation, but was turned down by law enforcement.Â It is our understanding that a third party made contact with the group and then contacted both sides of Haleigh’s family.

This is a portion of an email sent to the third party from the Laura Recovery Center in response to an inquiry:

“We have watched coverage on Haleigh’s case and when she was first
reported missing offered assistance to Law Enforcement who declined our
offer.

The Laura Recovery Center responds to missing persons cases when
requested by Parents, Law Enforcement or part of our local Amber Plan.

I would like to talk with Haleigh’s mother or father to see if there are
any resources or assistance that we can offer.

Certainly, this must be an extremely difficult and emotional time for
all who know and love Haleigh. We pray that Haleigh will be found and
that she will be reunited with those who love her.”

I wonder who declined the offer and why? Did the Parents know about the offer?

AnneInTn said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

looking for justice said,in December 11th, 2009 at 1:41 pm Why would law enforcement decline their help

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Makes one wonder dont it. They declined there help in the begining when LE ask Tim Miller to leave the search. Full Moon is on its way.

tobias said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

Does this mean they will come and start a new search? Tim Miller has not returned to do anymore searches and this could really be a great thing. jmo

PAW69 said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

It’s sad that LE is so corrupt to the point they decline help to find a missing child and help the ones who love her the most. More so, if Ron and Chrystal didn’t know about this help. Haleigh may have been found long ago if they wouldn’t have declined.

looking for justice said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

AnneInTn, yes I remember. Why would any LE turn down help to find a missing child? Why did they ask Tim Miller to leave and put The FBI on call if needed? I would like to know if the parents were informed. It should of been the parents decision; not LE who they wanted help from. I say the more the merrier.

tobias said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

TJ we are so happy you talked to these people and we hope they come and search. Have they contacted Ron or Crystal? At least they care,it seems everyone else has given up on ground seaches since the pond draining. jmo

tobias said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

If you ask me they asked Tim Miller to leave because he was asking Misty alot of questions and the polys. Also letting the tapes get released to the public, they didnt like that one bit in my opinion. Its almost like they were mad because other sources were getting information and they were not. jmo

Seriously? said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

OMG are you people really this clueless? I am just sick of hearing how LE must be corrupt or LE screwed up this and that. Just because you don’t know what the hell LE is doing does not mean they have screwed up or are corrupt!

It is so easy for you all to sit in judgment behind your computer screens sitting on your ass.

You really have no clue what LE is doing in this case and you will be shocked when the truth comes out.

Most of you that are judging LE are starting to sound as warped as Timothy H.

Get a clue. LE owes none of us a damn thing. They will do what is right for Haleigh and her alone.

Excuse the interruption. I will let y’all get back to your deep denial now.

AnneInTn said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

I know for a fact that the family did not contact this group to come back and search. Someone contacted them, but the mother or father has to sign a release form to come there and search.

AnneInTn said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

Seriously? said,in December 11th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

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No LE owes us nothing but they sure the HELL owes Haleigh something.

tobias said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

Remember without all the media attention on this case she would have been forgotten by all but those who loved her. I started to keep an eye on a case in Calf. where Hasanni Campbell was missing they got little media attention and now there is only one person who is still trying to find him, his (foster mother) aunt and her boyfriend are not even looking anymore either. Makes you wonder what would have happened if the media had not been so involved in this case.imho

AnneInTn said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

tobias,

your so right. yesterday i was giving up and today , well here i am. Pray for Haleigh safe return.

To seriously and everyone else,
Everyone of us who blog on this site care and if nothing else if Haliegh is in heaven I am sure she knows we all care about her and I for one think that is the greatest gift we can give CARING AND PRAYING. And without the media and those that care this would have been filed away months ago. imho

PAW69 said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

Seriously?, If they turn away “HELP” then YES they ARE CORRUPT PERIOD!!! When someone is missing, you don’t turn away help to find them.

treece said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

Let’s put Christ back in Christmas and pray He brings Haleigh home. Wishing a Merry Christmas to you all.

tobias said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

Let the reason for not accepting help go for now. Focus on finding Haliegh please come and search. jmo

treece said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

Hi PAW, I agree the more help the better.

tobias said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

If I were Ron,Teresa,Crystal or afamily member you can bet I would be on the phone or e mailing The Laura Foundation right now. jmo

PAW69 said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

Hiya Treece.

Tobias, I agree, I would be on the phone too with them.

BOLDONE3 said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

Why would LE turn down add’l help? They thought they could find Haleigh on their own?? And when they couldn’t?? Why didn’t THEY approach this organization??

Do I think LE is corrupt Seriously??. Where does LE come from in Putnum County?? They are merely an extension of the people who live in Puntnum County now. They’ve graduated from drug addicts & thiefs to just plain stupid low lifes. And that qualifies them to be in LE.

To have closure for Haleigh would be a Xmas miracle.

tobias said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

Bold one, it was said a long time ago that PCSO is a training place and most of the officers move out to different jobs after they complete training and I can see why.

lostnthemiddle said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

Ann if I’m not mistaken We have already had Decembers full moon, but a blue moon is on it’s way around the last day of the month.

AnneInTn said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

lost,

my mistake guess its the blue moon i read about.

lostnthemiddle said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

I agree treece, when they write xmas they are taking Christ out of Christmas, so yall please don’t do that. It’s Christmas OK. We are praying for a miracle, where do yall think that’s going to come from? Remember the true meaning of Christmas.

lostnthemiddle said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

Ann it is a full moon, but kind of like a extra one. I was just pointing it out because it seems to me to be more special that just a regular full moon, because it only happens every couple of years. 🙂

mlee said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 3:30 pm

looking for justice, that is a very good question.. Why would PCSO have declined their assistance and offered Searches?? I would put money on PCSO coming back with, No we didn’t..

Of course on the talk line I was told that Marie and Crystal declined their original offer to help too.. I don’t know, can’t imagine that occurring, can you??? Why would they???

Of course we were told that PCSO ask Tim Miller to leave the first time, and then told they didn’t and then told they did.. So, it would be nice to have answers to these questions.. but unfortunately, this merry go round seems to spin so fast, I get dizzy so.. We must wait and see..

hmmm said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

I remember LE saying they didn’t want anyone searching. They said it will cause problems with what could at some point being a crime seen. I had never heard LE say anything like that is any other case. Makes no sense imo

AnneInTn said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

Family didnt turn this team away in the begining LE did.

cent said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

I’m thinking that LE was possibly trying to avoid the “circus”. Is there a law that says that a private party CAN NOT search. I would think that LE was just NOT going to lend assistance with the other searches.

cent said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

Ann,

What are you talking about… radio show.

WinterRose said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

I’m telling you,since many missing persons cases could be human trafficking,they should have a special task force from the very beginning take over the cases.Use local LE at the very first with the area search,but let the task force take over after the first day.

m2c♥ said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

WinterRose: I agree. That’s a great idea. Let’s face it. Most local LE has enough to do on a normal day. They don’t have the personnel or budget for extended or complex investigations like this. Especially when the child could have been taken out of the area.

In the past – and maybe even now – just taking a child across a county line was enough to baffle the cops who did not communicate or coordinate across county lines. That’s what happened with Adam Walsh’s son. The report of him missing was kept within the county he lived in. But the killer took him to the next county. Anyway, poor Mr Walsh had to work for YEARS to get LE to talk to each other.

Anyway, I think it’s a great idea and we should consider demanding it at the Federal level.

m2c♥ said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

Seriously? at 2:10 pm:

If you are a well-read and intelligent person (and I thnk you are) then you know full well that some individuals in LE and some LE agencies in various local areas have been and are corrupt and/or incompetent or simply not trained or funded well enough to handle everything that’s thrown at them.

It would be stupid and ingenuous of us to assume that LE has handled this perfectly well since the beginning. PCSO made the decision to play this close to the vest and they have the right to do that if it will help the investigation. At the same time they have to take the heat for it because we KNOW they are human, we KNOW it’s possible that something has gone very wrong, and it is our DUTY as the public to hold them accountable.

Anything else would amount to a police state – with the public unable to challenge or question them. And what would happen then?
Ultimately, worst case, Nazi Germany is a good example. So please don’t tell us we should sit quietly, blindly, twiddling our thumbs. All that accomplishes is for Haleigh to be forgotten (like so many others).

m2c♥ said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

I don’t know if or when the Laura search group offered to search before. If it was right after Haleigh went missing then MAYBE LE turned them down because EquuSearch was already there (like within a day or two).

Practically speaking, LE has to coordinate with searchers and help so maybe LE thought it was enough for them to work with EquuSearch (along with all the other investigation things LE was doing) rather than put more time and manpower in helping an additional volunteer group.

However, I still wonder why the search was stopped so soon. I don’t think that was Tim’s decision – but it doesn’t matter because LE stopped searching at the same time.

tobias said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

If this group gets a call from one of the Parents and they come to search how is LE going to react? We shall see soon enough is my guess because if I were the parents and I were offered free help I would take it. jmo

bonanzajellybean said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

Wonderful news. Perhaps they will now find Haleigh and bring her home to rest, and give the family closure. With a body, they also can move forward on finding the individual(s) responsible. RIP Haleigh, we never gave up trying to find you.

AnneInTn said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

cent said,in December 11th, 2009 at 5:02 pm Ann,

What are you talking about… radio show.
————-
Yes the radio show.

tobias said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

There seems to be a show coming soon in Vegas called Vegas Bond. Art harris is involved in it too. Cobra needs to recoup the money he has lost on this case but I think he will still be in the loop to find Haliegh. jmo

tobias said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

Does anyone else find it strange that Ron and Misty claim to have parted on good terms, but she didnt show up for the vigil? Why if the family still believes she is innocent I think that is very telling. I dont think they parted on such good terms as would like us to think. jmo

There seems to be a show coming soon in Vegas called Vegas Bond. Art harris is involved in it too. Cobra needs to recoup the money he has lost on this case but I think he will still be in the loop to find Haliegh. jmo

You are correct. Our double emmey winning reporter is trying to get a ‘reality’ TV series running. He has been for many months.

One can only hope that he has the same ‘impartial’ journalism that we saw in the coverage of Haleigh Cummings.

Examples of that can be found in the filings by Kim Picazio getting out of the Bar Complaint. Art was retained as the ‘media consultant’, of course Art never bothered to tell us that he was representing one side. We all assumed that he was being a journo, not so, he was rehabilitating Crystal Sheffield’s public image.

I am happy to supply the documents filed with the Florida Bar that show this.

hope said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

i thought kp paid cobras way. if anyone lost money it would be her. im sure cobra spent money on attorney’s fees and feul for court dates but that was his own doings. im sorry to sound harsh but please haleigh has lost her family and her family has lost her. and that my friends you can put no amount of money on. smiles, laughs, kisses , hugs, etc. you cant go out and buy those things. so long story short the only pitty i have is for haleigh not for anyone who tried to cash in on a reward and it back fired and they were many that fall into that catagory.

one thing isnt it funny all was going well and only a small reward was offered little of no money. but golly gee when the reward jumped then all of a sudden here comes people out of the wood work and all hell breaks loose. and that tells you where their hearts were in their pockets.

now leonard padilla i remember him being there in the first week and instead of looking to collect he put 25,000 up for reward for anyone who returned haleigh before a certain day (cant remember) now that was sincere.

treece said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

I guess I am in the twilight. I don’t know any news about Cobra, did his case get dismissed????

tobias said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

Does anyone know if Kieth Williams is related to Jerome Williams? Just curious if this is the unnamed black guy in the Misty and Charlie party? Jerome Williams was a big drug dealer that went to prison but first tried to help find info about Haliegh(supposedly).

hope said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

i dont know about a keith williams but i know there was a sampson harris staying there at this guy charles’ along with misty and others. check out the jail log to see his mug.

m2c♥ said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

Hi, Treece! Just popping in but wanted to tell you that the last I heard his trial had been scheduled for January which exceeds the 180 day “speedy trial” limit so I guess he’s hoping to get it dismissed on that technicality but I have not heard that it has been yet.

tobias said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

Cobra made mention on the show last Sunday to Denny that he would be coming out to Vegas if his trial was dismissed. I believe he is a very nice man and I would not blame him at all for wanting to recoup what he has lost. He has to make a living and he cant do that without his license. No one can give up their whole life to find Haliegh its not possible. jmo

treece said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

m2c, thank you and I hope Cobra’s case is dismissed and this can be a closed chapter in his life. I just don’t understand Simon’s post?
new’s travels fast? what news?

tobias said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

Hope how do you know this?

AnneInTn said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

Simon, i will forward you a e-mail.

hope said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

i wont say who but go knock on there door. youll find them all there.

tobias said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

Well that would be hard for me seeing as how I would have to book a long flight on a plane to get there. Just thought there was an article stating who was there.

hope said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

if i had a million dollars i would bet on it. unless hes left in the past couple of days.

hope said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

well tobias you must talk to someone too since your far away how do you hear of keith williams. lets just say i did my home work

hope said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

check sampson lamar harris 4/98 attempted murder. yeah misty is in good company bet she feels right at home. this guy has a rap sheet. well found the recent charge looks like he got the boot from momma’s house and had to go somewhere. misty is like a magnet for her kind of people.

DustyRose said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

I think the Police were right in asking Tim Miller to leave. . They had no choice they had to ask him to leave. However with that said he was reacting emotionally and out side of his capabilities in what he does he is likely one of the best in what he does and while emotionally grounded.
Another issue with Tommy why would Ronald ask him to go there and then not call him back and then fail to tell Police and then Police say Tommy is telling the truth but clear Ronald? How can that work in order for Tommy to be telling the truth Ronald has to be lying they need to decide. I think Ronald is telling the truth as for Lindsay IMO she worries a lot about image and hopes education will be her ticket out which it will help a lot but she is going to need to come clean about her husbands time line. She is going to have to face this she either deals with it or becomes part of it. She either comes clean now and perhaps works something out or spends the rest of her life running as far as she can hoping it will never find her. He’s not worth it.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families

Birdie said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

Hope, Any one can go down the Putnam County Booking log and throw out names. What are you doing? What is your point? If you have information than just say it with an explanation. Otherwise, you are just a troll.

hope said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

im no troll you missed the point tobias asked about a keith williams being in the company of charles jones and misty and i informed him not sure about that but there is a sampson there and they are all the same class of people. you want proof go get it yourself these are dangerous people but i can assure you a night in that part of town and you will see the crowd strolling or walking the streets.

m2c♥ said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

DustyRose: I think you are mixing up the two different times that Tim Miller was involved in the Haleigh case. He and his search team went there a day or two after Haleigh’s disappearance last February and worked with LE to physically search the area for her. After 3-4 days of searching both LE and TES stopped.

The next time was months later when he offered the LDT, hypnosis and Voice tests to Misty. And shortly after that we learned about Tim’s colleague Donna Brock supposedly be-friending Misty to try to learn things.

The only time LE may have infuenced Tim’s leaving was during the first search in February. I have not heard of anything else.

m2c♥ said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

tobias, I think Denny lives in Vegas and that’s why Cobra mentioned he might be going ther. I do not think that Art Harris’s possible TV show has anything to do with Cobra. I have not gotten the impression that Art and Cobra are friends (anymore). Maybe I’m wrong. Anyway, I think it’s a coincidence of the location of Vegas.

hope said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

past present future
who they knew, who they know, and who they will know. eventually if people keep close watch on who’s who then someone from the past may cross paths with someone from the future and then the pieces will fit..

Birdie said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

hope,

I followed the conversation. He asked you if Williams was related to the imprisoned Jerome Williams and you brought up a new name out of thin air with no explanation.

John Gotti has a record too.

You are just playing games and it is not amusing.

Birdie said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

Hope, if you know so much, you should be talking to Law Enforcement. My guess is, you don’t although I am fully aware this is a high for you. You are sad.

hope said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

im not playing games if you want proof go stand at the local store and you will see them. and as for my name who’s keith williams thats no different. i happen to know what comes across the radio and i assure you sampson harris was there and arrested. now like i said it only matters that this is who misty is keeping company with. i dont have to play games actually im tired of games. just go talk to some of the locals since you want to do some investigative work. go canvas the neighborhood. no i am not playing games. that i promise you

hope said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

well that’s kinda contradicting since le where the ones who arrested this guy at that house.
they are well aware of who’s where.

aware of where all the characters are not haleigh we are speaking in re: misty

PAW69 said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

To be quite honest with you, I have no clue who or what you are speaking of because you are speaking in riddles.

hope said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

the moral of the story is misty has failed to cooperate with le so maybe she will slip up and tell someone something. so its good to know who she in the company of.

PAW69 said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

If I remember correctly, she has cooperated with them fully until she got tired of repeating herself over and over again. She took 3 LDTs, 1 Hypnosis, and 1 voice that I know of. That’s not failing to cooperate.

BTW, You got all that just by someone asking about Kieth Williams? WOW!

hope said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

well you say cooperated but she didnt cooperate with the hypnosis, she walked out of an interview with le , and shes failed ldt. she was taken in for questioning without choice and when asked questions she would refer to having a lawyer. and when asked to go on her own accord she did not. that is not cooperation. she has not been interogated intensely. shes always had mommy by her side and the states attorney present because she was a minor. oh and she tried to pick and choose who questioned her cause someone made her mad.

Pinkey32/HUMBLED said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

HOPE
U KNOW I HAVE BEEN READING ALOT MORE THAN POSTING…SEEMS TO ME U WERE IN ON THE INCIDENT W/ ANSWER RIGHT IN FRONT “POSTER’UR RESPONSE TO HER EVEN SOUNDED FAKE.U ARE A TROLL AND U NEED TO BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF,HALEIGH IS A LIL’GIRL,MISSING.THIS IS NO JOKE.GROW THE HECK UP.

hope said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

no im seeking the truth. justice for haleigh.

treece said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

Pinkey, I think you nailed Hope!!!

PAW69 said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

I see once again she has been convicted without evidence of anything.

Thoeries can be thrown around all day and all night. But until LE puts out the evidence, It means nothing.

Haleigh needs to be found. And hounding 1 person for almost a year doesn’t cut it. Especially when that 1 person doesn’t say any more nor any less than they have for almost a year now.

Misty is 18 yrs old now. She’s still not being interrogated as of right now. So obviously they have nothing on her at this time. Because if they did, she would be at the station right now.

hope said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

yeah jesus was nailed too.

treece said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

PAW69, no one has been hammered like Misty has. I just wonder if all the time and energy LE and Tim M have wasted on Misty would have been spent really investigating if Haleigh would have been found.

PAW69 said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

Treece, I have been wondering the same thing for a long time now. If they would have put in the time and effort to really investigate on others other than Misty, Haleigh may have been found long ago. Also if they really truly turned others away who had the means to help search for Haleigh, they just blew their case all to heck.

treece said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

PAW69, it makes you wonder if they truly want to find her or do they already know the truth and just won’t reveal it. It is like they have picked on Misty and used her as a distraction. I am usually very supportive and loyal to LE but this crew I do not trust.

PAW69 said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

Treece, Either way, this is making them look worse than the drug dealers. They messed up, so they have to blame someone. Blame the minor who is a druggie and under educated.

treece said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

PAW69, I agree, and that is disgusting. Misty hasn’t had a fair shake her entire life and doesn’t look like Haleigh has ever been the priority.

PAW69 said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

It’s obvious that 99.99% of this town is warped. So being a druggie and having sex with half the town and being under educated is irrelivant. It also doesn’t make a person a kidnapper/killer either.

Lets pray more and on our knees …to be humble and Hope and have Faith that God will see fit to bring let Haleigh be found one way or the other.

D Kerr said,

in December 11th, 2009 at 11:59 pm

Seriously,boy did you step in it big time.You can bet you are going to catch it from the bloggers.As for LE,I think they have done a really bad job with this case,and I am not the only one.I am not judging them,as I don’t have to as they have done enough to cause the feelings people have for them.This case went down hill from jump.As for LE not owing any of us anything,that is pure bull,we paying those people,we don’t pay for them to set on their asses and drink coffee all day and night.They are to serve and protect,and by God they need to do just that.And if anyone wants to help look for that child then LE should never of turned them away.I do understand they needed time to check things out and then organize things but it has been 10 long months now.There are a lot of people on her that has grown to love this child and we don’t hide behind our computers,we blogg to show our support.We all have families yet we check everyday for this little lost child.We care,we don’t always agree and even get pretty mad at times but I can say this,we seem to care more than anyone in that town,LE,and Haleigh’s family.So if you know so much maybe you have inside info,are you part of the LE,or a spouse of one of them?I do know that there has been little happening and little progress,which makes me very unhappy.I pray if Haleigh is alive and someone has her they are being good to her,and making her happy.Hope her Christmas is full of joy and love.If she is not alive,I know in my heart she is a pretty Angel and she is watch from Heaven and she knows she is loved by so many.So lets all stop fighting for awhile and start right now,praying together for Haleigh and just maybe if we do our prayers will be answered and she will be found,one way or the other.As for the parents,if you read the bloggs,please get in touch with this team of people and let them help.Merry Christmas Blogg family,and Happy New years

Laura Recovery Center and TES said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 1:44 am

Simon, Jan, TJ or any blogger do you know if the Laura Recovery Center is affiliated with TES in any way?
I am wondering this because Laura is the first name if Tim Miller’s slain daughter and the LRC is also from Texas.
I haven’t searched for any info. on the net yet but I am going to.
TIA!

prayers4haleigh said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 1:44 am

I don’t post here, or anywhere much, especially concerning the disappearance of precious Haleigh Cummings. I do read alot and keep up with what is going on, as far as what the media has put out. I’ve done a bit of research myself concerning this case, and it still puzzles me why oh why did this have to happen, as I’m sure we all have. The reason I’m even posting is because I ran across a myspace page of Joe Overstreets younger brother, at least I think that is who it is. It may not be anything worth looking into, and LE has probably checked him out as well. Check out his myspace page when you get a chance. http://www.myspace.com/brandon12345b

DustyRose said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 1:57 am

m2c.hmmm Well if in fact he was asked to leave a ground search then it had good reason, that is what he is very good at.
On another note in general discussion , I find no legitimate or relevant connection between Misty’s private life and Haleigh’s abduction. I find the probing into who sleeps with who in media today as ridiculous & diminishing the importance of basic human rights, personal freedom, individual freedom. Mr.TJ Hart did you forward that email? If it is bogus at random that will cleared up quickly and if not then it can be brought to a halt as it is BS. People doing that take up valid and needed resources, aka the police. Every phony and misleading tip takes away from Haleigh and it is as possible that she is alive that she is not. It’s 50/50 literally. A child’s life is in the balance. If she is alive then she likely is in a pedophile ring being switched around. I seen a person sold for a six pack and a sub sandwich once, it’s no joke and no easy place to be she needs real help if she is alive. I wish people did not make up stories and send off phony emails and tips.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families

Hope is correct said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 2:01 am

Hope is correct on her post about S. Harris knowing/living with C. Jones. It was on the scanner recently that C. Jones (not going to state his address) called in a complaint about Ron C. harassing him. When C. Jones was revealed to be aquainted with Misty (even though Simon’s e-mail he received states C. Jones has a girlfriend) I put 2 and 2 together and knew that was a fact because C. Jones called LE about Ron. This past week S. Harris name was heard on the scanner (same address at C. Jones) and he was arrested this past week.

BTW Hope, do you think Ron or any of his family have any knowledge about what happened to Haleigh that they are not revealing to LE?
Did you go to the vigil for Haleigh the other night? Are you Ron’s cousin? Is this you?

Who was the poster that was posting their supposed bosses notes on the case, the boss was suppose to be a psychic?? I thought it was hope.. could be wrong but…

Hope is correct said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 2:25 am

TruthBeTold
The name of that poster is The Answer is Right in Front Of Us.
Hope was posting the same time Answer was and was conversing with her.
Don’t know if it was her….

viola said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:42 am

Just this group telling that they were turned down and making the email public is not appropriate in my opinion. Neither is searchers giving interviews on TV shows and bounty hunters running around with major dramatics going on. The circus that went on with Caylee and then somewhat with Haleigh may be why searchers were turned away or turned down by LE. LE needs to investigate instead of giving out critical information for others to go blab. When physical searches become some soap opera murder mystery to be dramatically played out on TV for spectators to sit around and ridicule the families of the missing….

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:03 am

DustyRose,I apologize that I was not clear. LE called off the physical search for Haleigh= stopped their own officers from searching at the same time that EquuSearch stopped. I believe LE did not want anymore searching going on.It was NOT anything that Tim or EquuSearch did at that time (back in Feb).

ms.peridot19 said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:13 am

good morning everyone,

t.j. thank you for all you are doing for haleigh. you are amazing!

normally i do not check crayon boy’s website. i saw it and decided to see if he is still writing about haleigh’s investigation. he has written about how marie and teresa want the fbi to take over haleigh’s investigation. marie wants a probe. t.h. quotes both teresa and marie.

if the families are making requests to gov. ch christ to bring in the fbi, maybe we all need to write letters supporting their request. or letters to whoever could help bring the fbi into the case at this point? (can someone here explain what athority the fbi has to insert themselves.) it sounds like if they (the family) suspect a “extremely corrupt”… situation, maybe the fbi has a reason to look further into how this case is being handled. or hopefully with so much time passing, that is enough reason for the fbi to come in and put more effort into h.c.’s case.

because of the information in the above article tj wrote, i am inclined to believe it may also be true haleigh’s families came together to demand more action in her case. and two families standing together on this, are better than one.

t.h. also writes about the fact that pcso know’s where misty and haleigh were that night haleigh went missing. if this is true, this does not sound good for haleigh. but of course it is still possible, someone took her or even gave her away, where ever misty was at, that night.

i hope sunday, t.j., simon, and cobra can tell us more about the laura recovery center coming on board. also, if possible can you tell us if haleigh’s family is contacting gov. ch christ and/or the fbi directly to reinvestigate or take a new look at the case. it could not hurt for us all to write back up request letters if they are indeed working on this. TIA, ms.p.

First Coast News pulled the story about HaLeigh’s grandmothers requesting FBI intervention.

My Question Is WHY? Did somebody put pressure on them to pull it?

Polly said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 9:47 am

New sheriff in town, inexperienced with this type of case, wants to prove to his constituents he’s got the right stuff. FBI more than likely told him that this ain’t no abduction, look at the family, in particular the babysitter. Babysitter fails 3 polys, voice analysis and does not cooperate with hypnosis. Babysitter cannot account for large chunks of time in her timeline. Babysitter contradicts herself on several occasions. Babysitter’s family very much involved in the drug scene, petty theft and other criminal activities. Occam’s Razor tells us that Misty is the only viable suspect.

Misty, Tommy, Cousin Joe and Timmy’s van. Possibly Timmy. I cannot believe he’s the only Croslin to just said “no” to drugs.

Watch all the interviews with Misty, notice how she tries to avoid questions, answering a question with a question, notice how she gives TOO much information concerning the pee blanket, notice how she tries to project blame onto Tommy, Cousin Joe and Crystal. Notice how she vigorously declares Timmy as Ron’s favorite. Notice how, when asked the hard questions, she begins whining about how hard her life is and how she’s only a kid herself.

Consider how Cousin Joe took off to Tenn the very next day.
Consider how Timmy and Chelsea moved to Mass. when things got too hot in FL. Consider how Lisa tried to relocate to Tenn. Consider how Misty needed to clear her head in Orlando.

Keep in mind Misty’s behavior the weekend prior to Haleigh’s disapperance, a three day sex and drug binge. Keep in mind that Misty was robbed during an attempt to buy drugs. Keep in mind that Misty has allegedly been partying, sex and drugs again, in the months following her divorce from Ron.

I do not believe Misty was home that night. I believe she was with Tommy and Cousin Joe, and possibly Timmy, as he had the ride. I believe drugs were involved. Was there an accident concerning Haleigh? Very likely. Tommy and Lindsey have a trampoline, not the safest thing for kids to play on. Could there have been a medical emergency? Possibly, Haleigh had asthma.

Polly, you just neatly put it in a nut shell.I hope and pray Haleighs family gets the greatest gift for Christmas …the truth about what went on the night she disappeared.There is someone out there who knows the truth and they could give meaning to the real meaning of the phrase …it is more blessed to give than receive.Christmas is the season for giving.

sharpvisions said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 11:08 am

Only reason they would turn down search teams is because they are ignorant or corrupt. The same reason they won’t look at Snodgrass. Either way they should be fired. The people of Putnam Co should demand they all resign or get fired. The old saying we have heard for months “Misty holds the key” is an excuse to cover up corruption or ignorance. Why don’t they go look at those thousands of pictures of kids Snodgrass has and see how many missing kids pic are there.

Polly said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 11:22 am

Thank you ms.p

I miss Dad and always will. We prayed for healing and that is the way God answered our prayers. Who are we to question that? I’m happy to know my father is no longer in such physical pain. I told my mother the hardest part is over now, we had to let him go, but we will be with him again.

We all want Haleigh and all the other missing children to be found alive and well, but I fear that is not going to be the case. Now I pray just that Haleigh (and all other missing persons) be found, so we may give her the proper respect she deserves and that the perp(s)be held accountable.

Polly said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 11:29 am

And as far as Mr.Snodgrass is concerned, he either needs to be locked up – pronto, or he needs to have a psych evaluation – pronto.

treece said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 11:38 am

Polly, you are right, your dad has the ultimate healing now, no sorrow, no pain but an abundance of peace and joy that we don’t even comprehend. As you miss him just think, he may be being grandpa to some “missing child”. I hope knowing you will be with him again will bring you comfort this Christmas season. Treece

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 11:40 am

Hope is correct, Hope Sykes was at the vigil she is on the video towards the end. I wondered who she was and now we know. I also have a feeling she may be the one posting also.
Either she lives down there or she is making things up, who knows for sure? There also was a blogger called cousin on the same night as Answer who thought they knew Hope and then realized it was a different Hope. Without proof of what they are saying no one should believe them.jmo

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 11:49 am

Hope, if you are Hope sykes, we are sorry for thinking you are a troll , we can not trust any information without hard evidence or we risk getting mislead. We really do care where Haliegh is and want to help find her.jmo

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 12:00 pm

Wow things got quiet all of a sudden. hmm.

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 12:07 pm

Viola @ 3:42 am – I agree with your whole post. And about the Laura search team offer at the time of Haleigh’s disappearance, local LE already accepted Texas EquuSearch’s offer of help. I’m sure that searching takes coordination of LE and searchers. So maybe LE did not think they had the manpower to coordinate their OWN search plus TES’s plus a THIRD group from out of town. I’m not a big LE fan but I can certainly see that as being understandable.

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

Ms Peridot at 6:13am – I think it’s a great idea for us to write the FBI and state atty’s office to demand an objective investigation of Haleigh’s disappearance (separate from local LE). Possibly even an investigation INTO local LE.
Whether the grandma’s want it or not.

I do not think such a request or demand can be made by the residents of Putnam County. Because LE has power. And whether LE is corrupt or perfectly legit, they might be pretty miffed at the request and the people who could “pay for it” are the residents.

So I think it’s up to us to make that demand.

Polly said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 12:12 pm

Treece,
Thank you. Dad is going to have a great Christmas. Christmas in Heaven must be awesome.

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

Polly, you said at 9:47 am “New sheriff in town, inexperienced with this type of case, wants to prove to his constituents he’s got the right stuff.”

I’ve been worried about that from the beginning. In addition the new sheriff fired the top two most experienced detectives just before this happened (I think it was before).
That was supposedly a typical political move – to oust people who supported the former sheriff. But it resulted in having less experienced people to investigate Haleigh’s disappearance.

I think it was WinterRose who suggested that there be a national or federal task force that is specifically set up to fly in and investigate the disappearance of children. I know the FBI goes for the first few days but that’s not enough. It’s obvious that many many local LE’s do not have the time or training or budget for prolonged and complex investigations like this. The PERFECT situation for kidnappers and SOs. So if a task force, trained in such investigations went in, worked with local LE to an extent, and then continued, I’d be all for it.
And Damn the expense.
The cost of one more jet to fly over some foreign country could do a heck of a lot to find THIS country’s lost children!

cent said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

So is the last vigil posted somewhere?

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 12:25 pm

Well, my second try on this story has not posted either. Basically it’s a story about a guy in Cleveland who dressed in a Santa outfit and tried to kidnap a child. He had a unicycle with him decorated for Christmas. I think we should ask Snodgrass what’s with unicycles and child sex offenders/kidnappers, don’t you?

Hopefully my earlier posts will show up at some point. If not just google Cleveland unicycle and you’ll find the story.

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 12:26 pm

Viola 342, If you have ever followed cases of missing children than you know without media attention they usually go cold. Look up Hasanni Campbell from California, it is never in the news and only on Nancy Grace 1 or 2 times. This little boy will more than likely never be found, and why? NO MEDIA ATTENTION, NO ONE HEARS ANY NEWS ON THE SEARCHES. Sorry it just makes me so mad that if your child is missing and gets no media coverage the odds are against finding them.jmo

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 12:30 pm

M2C, I heard it on the radio and wondered the same thing. Family is down playing the incident too. He supposedly wanted to give her a candy cane and grabbed her arm. hmmm. ya never know. jmo

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 12:31 pm

Cent, go to jax4news jacksonville

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 12:46 pm

The reward for Hasanni Campbells where about has also increased to 75,000 and his vigil only had a half dozen people attending, what a darned shame.

I had never heard of the Laura Recovery Center until this article. I do see they now have media coverage and are a legit 501(c) organization, but what was known about them 10 months ago? LE can’t just let people out on their own to search as it needs to be supervised to prevent leaks and destruction of evidence. A grid pattern needs to be set up and adhered to with meticulous records kept of areas searched. They already had TES involved in the search, a group that is trained and supervised, so I can completely understand their turning down the Laura Recovery Center.

Winter Rose posted 12/11 at 5:39 about having a missing persons task force to initially assist local LE, then take over the search which I think is an excellent idea and a way to prevent being thorough in every detail that needs to be covered in a missing person’s investigation.

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 1:16 pm

Cent, I am afraid that if we all dont push this will get put in a file and stored away as a cold case. Jaycee Duggards Mother never gave up and she was found after 18 years, the case was actually a cold case. jmo

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

There was a news video of a guy from Putnam county that regularly searches for Haliegh.
He is a retired (game warden or forestry) I will try to find the news release again.

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

tobias @ 12:26 – I think Viola was talking about the kind and quality of media coverage. At least I read it that way.

IMO there is a LOT more that media could do but they do NOTHING unless it is dramatic or controversial etc. For example, why can’t at least the local news orgs have a link on their web home pages to PHOTOS and info on missing kids? Help keep their names and pictures in the public’s mind?
But no, they don’t bother with a child until something “new” or sordid happens. IMO

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

LincaOz – I agree with both your comments at 1:15 pm

AnneInTn said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

IMO, the media can only do so much. They have to have facts to print anything.

cent said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

I agree that the media needs to step up, but I still have an issue with the families not being pro-active. Maybe, I shouldn’t lump them all in one big hunk, cause it’s not fair, and I’m not there on the inside. I don’t know… maybe their hands are tied!

AnneInTn said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

cent,

maybe so.

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

The media is powered by ratings and advertisers. We are what gets them the ratings and buy what the advertisers are selling. As I see it we have all the power. We just need to voice it. jmo

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

I just saw the news release that TN and MS are pushing the gov. Crist for FBI to take over the case. Great news, I am sure they will get to the bottom of this.

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

Misty has sure got her work cut out for her now, how to pull the wool over the FBIs eyes?
The I dont know I was asleep story isnt going to fly now. jmo

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

Does anyone know if Misty still has a lawyer?
And if she does why would he still represent her knowing she is living with felons and drug addicts? I am sure he is pro bono, she doesnt have any income to pay for him.jmo

Vaquera said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

The Laura Recover Center has been around for a while, here’s an article from 2001

tobias, you are assuming Misty is the guilty party and that is a huge assumption to me. I do believe there is a huge possibility that PAW69 is correct and Misty may have told all she knows. She may have been very sound asleep and someone (probably that haleigh knows) came and took her. Actually I am hoping that is true and Haleigh is alive and well someplace and will be found and returned to her dad and grandmas very, very soon. JMO but I don’t see any PROOF that Misty knows anything.

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

I doubt very much that it was the Sheffields or the Cummings family. And we all know Misty was the only one at the MH that night and she has been lying from the start. The fact that she failed 3 polys, blamed numerous other people, cant keep her story straight,her own family thinks she knows more than she is telling,and she is now doing what? I believe she is showing her true colors. If it walks like a duck…. jmo

Vaquera said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

I agree with all you said treece.

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

She states that Jr. rolled over her while they slept, if she was such a sound sleeper she would not have noticed that. jmo

hangnon said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

I have to agree in that I do not believe Misty knows anything more then she has told LE.

She said she vaguely remembers Jr crawling over her and him standing at the bedroom door. She was not awake, more like a dreamlike state.

Gosh I don’t know anybody who has not experienced things like that. Something wakes you but you are not really awake, and in the morning you vaguely remember something but it is not clear in your mind. Could have happened or you could have dreamed it. It is a cloudy memory.

stormgardner said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

Hi all,
I’m trying to at least read every day and keep up to date hoping there is new information about Haleigh, but I’m so confused right now.
Ever since the post from “The answer is right in front of you” the other night, I am more dumbfounded than ever. I’m not sure what to make of it. Seems there are several posters with the name of “hope”. I don’t want to think badly of anyone if they are sincere in what they are doing. I really thought it was a troll trying to throw everyone off and just cause an argument among the bloggers. There are many who have been an advocate for Haleigh since day one. Some just can’t seem to accept there are people who want to help and really care about this child.
Right now all I can do is pray for Haleigh’s family. They are all going through something unimaginable right now and need all the support they can get, even if it is from strangers.
Thanks to all who are here for Haleigh keeping her name out there so she isn’t forgotten, writers and bloggers alike. Most of us are here for the same reason. For the very few that aren’t here for that, may I ask that you please think about Haleigh and her family before you post something that would be painful for her family to read.
Everyone have a great afternoon.

AnneInTn said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

hangnon said,in December 12th, 2009 at 2:58 pm I have to agree in that I do not believe Misty knows anything more then she has told LE.

——-

I agree with this also.

ms.peridot19 said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

hangnon that article from firstcoast is still not back up. hmmm? maybe they are working on it more and it will be back up sunday or monday. they would make sure that the facts are correct before they put the article up, i hope.

did you read it. were they just reporting about what was on t.h. site or did they talk to someone and get the facts themselves.

i really was hoping it was true that the grandma’s were going to ask for more help.

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

There are too many facts pointing in her direction for her not to have known more than she is saying. The backdoor did not open itself and the light in the kitchen did not turn itself on. She failed 3 polys not 1 not 2 but 3 I am not sure to what extent but she knows more than she is saying. I do not think she did it but she knows who did. She does not know where Haliegh is but she knows who does and she does not know if she is dead but she knows who does.jmo

Nobody knows the results of the polys given to Misty by LE EXCEPT LE. All we know is that TM gave her a poly and says she did not pass it. That is one poly not three.

AnneInTn said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

Can drugs keep you from passing a poly test? idk

hangnon said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

Ms P — I read it and it was just taken from the press release. It did not have anything in it that made me think that FCN contacted the family about it.

If TH said the grandma’s are asking for help from FBI then I believe that is the case. I know Ms Neves wants the FBI to take over but I can’t confirm Ms Griffis wanting the same thing, but I would imagine she does.

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

cent @ 1:31 – About the families doing more. Yes I think both families maybe could have done more before – soon after Haleigh disappeared. But now?

I think some much more educated (shall I put it?) families would be baffled about what to do now. Maybe some well-off families could afford “spokespeople” or publicisits or Public relations people or someone to guide them. These people can’t. And God knows the “help” one of them got (KP) well…pfft. They would have been better off without her.

So picture yourself in that position, in a small community, with little money, with your only line of defense being the local LE, who is basically stonewalling you. Plus you and everybody else is at the local LE’s mercy. They have the power to arrest anyone in your family, friends, etc. In fact they may decide to blame Haleigh’s disappearance on your child or just choose to hound them with traffic tickets or other nuisances.

So if the grandmoms are reaching out to the FBI now that’s HUGE.
And I think we should support them in that.

I really don’t know what more it is you expect the families to do at this point.

I hope you won’t suggest that they themselves actually search. That is the very last thing a family member should do. Really. You really want a family member finding that? I don’t.

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

has anyone found out why the mainstream news site removed the article about both grandmas wanting the FBI to take over? I’m not going to believe anything Timmy says.

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

TM sent for a professional to give a standard poly and a voice stress poly which were both failures. They also did hypnosis and it was not effective, even though she tried to fake it. If you were to be hypnotised and werent wouldnt you say something like this isnt working or I dont feel like I am under?
The professional even said on record that she did not pass and was not under hypnosis, he sure would not lie and face court action. jmo

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

I thought we already pretty much established that the LDT and voice stress tests that TMiller had Misty take were incorrectly given and the results are worthless. I don’t have much faith in the hypnosis either. I think all three of those tests should just be eliminated from consideration.

PAW69 said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

Anne, I don’t know if drugs persay can make you fail a LDT. But I do know that if someone feels guilty on the terms that they were the last one to be with a person (in this case Misty was the last one to be with Haleigh)and being responsible for that person, it can make you fail a test. Because you feel guilty and bad because you feel resposible that the person is now gone. Haleigh was in Misty’s care. She was responsible for her. She was babysitting her. That’s enough to feel guilt when Haleigh went missing. BUT!, That doesn’t mean she did anything either. Which is just 1 reason why LDTs are not allowed in court. There are too many reasons an innocent person can still fail a LDT. Which I might add that she volunteered to take the others over again.

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

I don’t think anyone “passes’ or “Fails” an hypnosis. Hypnotists get really mad when they fail to put someone under so he was probably PO’d about that. The other two tests were jokes. None of that is worth a moment’s thought. IMO

AnneInTn said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:30 pm

PAW69,

thank you.this does make sence to me. TY

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:30 pm

Sotrmgardner – Please just ignore the whole incident with the “answer” troll. Otherwise you allow he/she to accomplish their goal – upset and confuse everyone. They had nothing of value to add. Not really.

PAW69 said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

To me, The fact that LE didn’t pick up Misty on her 18th birthday speaks volumes to me. If they really truly had anything on her for anything, She’d be at the police station.

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

Not to get off the subject but why isnt Misty with her family? Isnt that why she came back from Tennessee? And I believe if LE did not have all the croslins arrested for their crimes they would all be in Tennessee now and out of the PCSO and medias watchful eye. jmo

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:42 pm

tobias – Who is Misty staying with if not her own family. I thought she and her girl friend were staying at Tommy’s and Lindsay’s along with the Lisa and Hank. No?

treece said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

Tobias, M2c is right. TM did not give a “professional” test. No “professional” talks like that and tells the tester that they are lying during the test. Read up on LDT they are not done that way. It was a farse. TM hiring a “mom” to deceive Misty to me shows how out of line everything he has done is. Can you not consider any other view except Misty is the problem? You sound like LE, blaming everything on Misty, instead of considering other probabilities. I am not trying to be rude to you but I don’t think most of us believe that Misty holds the key to Haleigh. JMO

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

I dont think there is enough hard evidence to prosecute without a body. They need alot of evidence like in the Anthony case, even though Caylee was eventually found. jmo

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

I have taken polys for work purposes and they do ask you questions if the poly shows deception so you can clarify your answer.imho

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

I agree with Treece but Tobias even IF Misty is responsible or knows a whole lot more than she has said so far, it is very very important to separate the wheat from the chaff. I mean separate what info can be fairly well depended upon and what cannot. And those tests that Tim Miller had administered have to go in the “useless” (irrelevant) pile.

treece said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

stormgardner, thank you for being sensitive and reminding us all to consider the innocent family members feelings. You are correct they do not deserve harsh things said about them.

Tobias, I agree they may ask other questions, yes or no questions for clarification BUT they do not badger the one being tested and tell them, “you are lying, this shows 90% deception” like was done to Misty. NO professional behaves like that.

ms.peridot19 said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

thank you hangnon for the information on the article. that is what i was afraid of. well maybe next week we will find out more.

PAW69 said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

This is sad. If Misty would have denied taking a LDT people would be sitting here saying she’s guilty because she denied taking the LDT. If she would have passed, People would say she’s a very good liar. She failed and volunteered to keep taking the tests.

WHAT GIVES. No matter what, Misty is damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t. All because she was the only one who was with Haleigh last, was 17 yrs old, is a druggie (like the rest of the town), has sex (like everyone else), and is a 6 grade drop out (like 95% of that town).

This is why she is guilty in the eyes of so many. And that is sad.

I pray every day that Haleigh be found whether alive or gone. I pray every day that there is still evidence with her if she’s gone.

They should not have stopped looking and they should have brought everyone in to help. They chose not to. This isn’t about Misty anymore. It’s about LE and the mistakes THEY made from day 1.

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

PCSO is really taking a lot of hits right now and we dont know if they are corrupt or not.
TJ seems to have alot of info on Misty why is that? Just because PCSO hasnt found Haliegh is not reason enough to say they are corrupt, they dont have to tell us anything they are doing in an investigation. All we can do is keep the pressure on and hope that the FBI comes in to help. I wish I am wrong too and they find her alive, but I really doubt it. jmo

treece said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

PAW69, absolutely, right on!! now that is what i’m talking about!!!!

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

Do you really believe Misty is innocent? Really
And if she is who took Haliegh? jmo

PAW69 said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:05 pm

I’m not saying whether she is innocent or not.

There are plenty of people who could have taken Haleigh.

AnneInTn said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

PAW69, i agree with you totally.

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

Also right now she isnt really making herself look very innocent.jmo

treece said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

Tobias, you are right, I don’t know if PCSO is corrupt or not but I do know for 10 months they have mouthed, “Misty is the key”, over and over instead of looking in every other direction. I know they did very little, if any, investigating on Crystal’s side of the family. So corrupt or just lazy or stupid or just human error I don’t know and I really don’t care. They have dropped the ball with this case and Haleigh and her family are the one’s that have suffered the most from it.

PAW69 said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

She’s not making herself look guilty either.

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

I believe LE has some evidence that is guiding them towards Misty and we are not privy to it.
They wouldnt be stretching their necks out on this if there wasnt some reason. jmo

ms.peridot19 said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

well i am going to respectfully disagree with many of you. i don’t mean misty any ill will, but, i don’t trust anything she says. is she telling the truth, possible but, very unlikely, in my opinion.

there is no proof against anyone that we know of. but, i partially agree with tobias. i don’t believe she is telling all she knows. i think that misty is more than immature. she is pretty messed up. sounds like she may be putting herself at real risk.

and if true, she is reported to want a baby. i really hope she waits on that.

PAW69 said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

And if she does have an attorney, The Attorney has probably told LE to put up or shut up, and since they haven’t put up, they have shut up.

I think Misty is behaving pretty much the same way she did before she met Ron. Nothing new there.

I think children in the care of neglectful or careless adults are more vulnerable to SOs – they LOOK for children in conditions like that.
That could mean anything from (a) Misty was passed out and an SO broke in or walked in and took Haleigh (it could have been someone she knew) to (z) some druggie Misty knows took her.
I don’t have an opinion about that I’m just saying that Haleigh was vulnerable.

I can’t even imagine what info LE could have that would support their focusing ONLY on Misty all this time. They would have to have a theory about what happened and should have followed up in other ways to get at the truth. They’ve had ten months to do that. Maybe they have. I don’t know. But it’s time to try something else.

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

Well lets all hope the FBI gets involved and settles this case. And it would be great if they start searching again who knows maybe they can actually get the community involved again.Some of the snow birds have returned for the winter, they might remember something from lastyear. jmo

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

We also may learn alot on the sunday show.

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

I just found the article on firstcoastnews.com that had temporarily disappeared. The one about the g-mas wanting the FBI involved.
Here’s the link to the article:

yes stormgardner,Thanks for that,but good luck with that,some have been begging for just that for months now and been met with hateful attacks for it.

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

One thing just occurred to me about the offer that the Laura search group just made. Usually search groups work in coordinatio with LE or at least with some kind of respectful relationship. But the Laura group just dumped on PCSO announcing that they’d refused their help in February. So I have to wonder what kind of reception the Laura group should expect from local LE. I think the Laura group just shot themselves in the foot (by doing something very self-serving and unnecessary).

Kool Look said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

I would like to know exactly what is it, or has in the past, that Misty has done that makes her look guilty please?

She’s living her 18 year old life exactly like someone who has the background she comes from and has been raised in. Guilty people don’t subject themselves repeatedly and voluntarily to interrogating hostile test givers, and un-friendly accusatory LE and outsiders, but yet Misty did. Over and over. That’s the point.

LE needs to get off their duffs and stop this undercover bull. It ain’t workin, for Haleigh, her family them or the public. I believe whole heartedly in undercover good police protocols, but this undercover keepin it close to the vest is being mis-used for reasons not what they were intended to be used for.

Too much cover your selves, no Le accountability to the family nor the public, nothing. The investigation from the start was mis-handled, though I don’t believe it was intentional, just inexperienced errors on behalf of those who had no idea how to handle criminal crimes of this nature. I could list the errors, such as phone records come to mind, need I go painfully further? Ugh!

Knowing how they treated the Grandmother, Teresa Neves, talking to her with such dis-respect, will never be forgotten by me. No one had a right to do this. Don’t care what kind of badge and gun you carry.

I call for an internal investigation into this department. It’s time people stop accepting the behavior of LE beginning with the no official statements on any type of acceptable time frame given to the public informing the public of needed progress, etc…. so they can keep their eyes peeled back in case Haleigh sightings could be had to assist LE with tips. It’s obvious they don’t plead for these tips.

No one has stopped them from being on a few respectable news media shows to talk about the disappearance of Haleigh and plead for information. That was their choice, and I’m not buying the keep it close to the vest. I’ve seen too many missing persons cases, and after all this time, LE is talking with the public through the media keeping the information current and real. This has never happened in this little jurisdiction.

Vaquera said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

The article is back so I guess First Coast got their confirmation from the grandmothers.

I think the Shanya case was too. And I am hoping this one is not related to that. I dont think Mcneil was acting alone I think there were more people involved in a underground network. as awful as that sounds it happens in other parts of the world all the time, we are not immune. jmo

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

Kool Look, good points.
The other problem that PCSO has caused since the beginning is that by announcing their focus on Misty, they basically told the world not to bother looking for Haleigh. Not to pay attention to what could be other leads.

The ONLY reason to announce that “Misty is the key” would be to put her under enough public pressure that her life could have easily been endangered. That’s irresponsible. The only other reason is to give an excuse for why THEY (local LE) wasn’t going to do anything more to look for Haleigh.

ms.peridot19 said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

m2c, i first want to comment on how well you described what it must be like to live in that town and be afraid of what it would be like if a loved one gets targeted by the police.

i truly agree they need to always be open to all the possibilities. before focusing in i hope they considered everyone close to haleigh as well as all the other possibilities.

also what you said about it may be best that people in the community not write the letters. i hope the grandma’s are working on something and we can write and support them. if not, we should each write the letters on our own. i think it would be helpful to know the best people to mail the letters to. i have never written a letter to the fbi before. i guess we would start with their local office? and any other office they have that could be helpful.

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

Tobias, you are right about that (@ 4:39)
I read recently that thousands of SOs can’t be located or accounted for. They are off the grid. And some LE agencies all over the country are trying to figure out better ways to keep track of them.
I think “checking the SOs in the area” and ruling them out was ridiculous at least as far as ruling out an abduction by an SO. There could have been four more in the area that no one knew about that night.
Whether this is what happened to Haleigh or not (and I pray not) it is a horrible problem in this country and it can only be solved by locking up child predators forever. And much harsher sentences for any offences against children (because these guys START with lesser offenses).

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

ms Peridot – Maybe we could enlist the aid of some of our fellow bloggers to put together a list of places to write to. In a way I don’t think it matters if we write to local FBI or Quantico or the Gov or the State Atty’ General or FDLE – and maybe we should all write to all of them! They’ll all compare notes at some point if we put the pressure on and maybe they’ll do something!

They may have done that to get just a little more evidence to add to what they have so they could arrest her, like if she wasnt at the MH where was she. If she was there and with someone, who were they, etc. They also knew all along that Ron called Tommys MH ,they may not have known who he talked to, and what the conversation was. I also think they thought they would get more out of Tommy than what they did. jmo

treece said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

m2c, I think it has been a cop out not to do anything else.

Kool Look said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

agree, very dangerous what LE has done concerning Misty’s life. If she were my daughter, I would be their worst nightmare. Never would I have shut up to the possibilities of what their actions could have permanently done.

This is one of the exact reasons why I know LE is in the wrong. Even if Misty is guilty, you don’t endanger your suspect, or want vigilantes taking matters into their own hands, or spoofing the suspect. It absolutely contradicts any common sense or theory. Tells me the opposite, that they know Misty didn’t do anything to Haleigh and they could care less about this case, care less about finding Haleigh, care less about the families involved. They should be investigated, as they turned everyones focus off any possibilities and hopeful answers with their obvious intentional attack on Misty. As they for months continued saying these things about Misty. Only recently have they now backed off of that. Why?

Something isn’t right in putnam county, I feel sorry for the residents.

cent said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

m2c @ 3:22

I would suggest that they do WHATEVER it takes to get answers/finding HaLeigh… If that means standing at the PD holding a sign… so be it! If that means setting up interviews on camera with websites, blogsites.. and broadcast that footage on youtube… then do it.

As far as the family searching for her themselves, I can’t say yea or nay, HaLeigh is their child. But of course I would not want ANYONE to come across the possible remains of their loved-ones.

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

I am quiting until tomorrow but I need to ask
if the FBI gets involved all they can do is take all the evidence collected so far and from what we know this is probably not enough to prosecute anyone. jmo

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

cent, I understand what you are saying but Ron and his mom went on NG and basically just got interrogated and then reamed by the public. Did that really do any good? And then Ron tried to do it a differen way by having his lawyer videotape a plea to be aired and he got reamed for that. Did that really help?

I don’t know what crystal has done. I’m not sure she can put three sentences together on the subject (for whatever reason).

And please read my earlier post about being a resident there and vulnerable to the whims of local LE.

In this situation with these two parents particularly I can’t ask any more of them right now. I think it’s up to us to put pressure on the right organizations.

treece said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

kool look, I so agree, if Misty were my child I would be scared for her and getting her out of town. I would also have given LE fits for what they have done.
m2c, I agree with you too, I think Ron, Misty and Teresa N have all been bashed no matter what they did, a no win.

ms.peridot19 said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

lie detector tests are only slightly better than 50% correct is my understanding. i thought they are only a loose or general help tool to the police.

the hypnosis was a joke. i don’t know if we saw the whole thing, but, it appeared misty didn’t have much of a chance to be under. she was having trouble following his directions. i personally watched a number of times and i had trouble following the directions (i was tired = misty was on camera.) you could see the confusion on her face, i think she didn’t want to say, “WHAT???” or “slow down and start over.” some of us are better at following a guided path than others. he didn’t seem to give her much of a chance, after she had a bad start.
Kool Look said:
“Guilty people don’t subject themselves repeatedly and voluntarily to interrogating hostile test givers, and un-friendly accusatory LE and outsiders, but yet Misty did. Over and over. That’s the point.”

i don’t believe it was voluntary. reportedly g.g.sykes pressed misty. maybe ronald pressed misty too. that was reported by cobra or t.j. i believe.

cent said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

m2c,

I read your post about living there, and I’m from Oakland, so I know about all that. The NG thing was just that, a thing! As far as I’m concerned they skated around some questions, and perhaps the questions that needed to be asked were not. I refuse to give any of them, Crystal included… a way out.

Perhaps the reasons why folks will not come forward, is because they don’t see the family applying pressure.

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

I will post my theory and without a confession they cant solve this case.

Tommy unlocked the door earlier in the day (after Ron checked it and left for work).
He plans on coming back to steal the guns to sell for drugs.
He asks Misty to come over and babysit his kids so he can go steal, but she cant( Ron says they fought on the phone about this).
Ron later calls Tommy and asks if Misty is there so now Tommy thinks Misty has left the MH
He enters the MH turns on the light, Haliegh wakes and naturally thinks its Ron home from work. Paniced and probably on drugs Tommy tries to quiet her. Ill leave this part out because I hate it. Misty may have woke up and found him out and after he explains that he really didnt mean for this to happen she covers for him. She washes the blankets and cleans up while Tommy hides Halieghs body.
There is no evidence left behind, his finger prints are there because he came over earlier.
No one else saw anything, the blankets were washed, there is no body. There is no hard evidence. jmo PSCO nor anyone else can solve this without a confession and the killers know it. jmo jmo This is just my theory

TruthBeTold said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

m2c♥ you said,
in December 12th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

Kool Look, good points.
The other problem that PCSO has caused since the beginning is that by announcing their focus on Misty, they basically told the world not to bother looking for Haleigh. Not to pay attention to what could be other leads.
————————————————
I agree, not to mention all of those who so adamantly state that RC or MC killed Haleigh, you know, those that continuously spread lies about the Cummings family and shove the poor Crystal propaganda down our throats? I feel this has caused many people to not even look for this little girl and find that disgusting in and of itself.They say they have not hurt her case with their lies, but I see it different.

cent said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

I am BoUnCiNg OuT for a while, I will check in to catch up. And for the record… THEY ALL FAILED HALEIGH!!!

TruthBeTold said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

Agree cent, agree fully. Have a good one

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

We should not be bashing LE without knowing what they have as evidence and in an investigation they dont have to release anything to the public that will jeprodize the investigation. We will have to wait and put pressure on them to do their job and arrest the guilty party. jmo

ms.peridot19 said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

treece said,in December 12th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

treece i would like to add one more possibility of what has gone wrong in the investigation.

it is possible there just is not much to go on and no matter how hard the police work, there is not much they can do. i am not saying that is what i happened, i just think it is one more possibility.

i too suspect what m2c? said earlier about money and being trained and equipped to take on cases like these.

also like tobias says they need to have enough proof to press charges, even if they do know. it is not easy.

there is a fine line where pressuring is not enough or is to much. the criminals don’t voluntarily give up the facts. (this is not meant to be flip in any way. the police should certainly not endanger anyone.)(i don’t believe the police ever said misty is guilty of anything, just, that she has not told the whole truth about her timeline. i personally don’t believe they endangered her.)

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

Misty endangers herself with her life style.
She could OD , being where she is at is more dangerous than anything LE said. She could have stayed at her Grannys in Tennessee where less people would know who she was. jmo

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 5:59 pm

Tobias, @ 5:39pm:
There is a difference between bashing LE and putting pressure on them (at the local level or higher) to keep working the case. I think that’s what you are saying and I agree.

For whatever reason each one of us has, I think it’s a good thing to write, email whatever to demand that more be done now – to keep investigating. If some people have doubts about local LE’s handling of the case they can write federal or state agencies and ask that local LE be investigated as well as ask that they take over the investigation.

Frankly, to me, all the letters we can write to try to keep this case in the spotlight ACTIVE (for whatever reason) has to be helpful.

Vaquera said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:01 pm

Something isn’t right in putnam county, I feel sorry for the residents

==============
Kool, I totally agree.Something ain’t right in Putnam County.

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:06 pm

tobias,I agree that Misty is endangering herself. Has been since she’s been on her own. Before that her family endangered her thru neglect etc. But that does not excuse LE for possibly putting her in danger by announcing long ago that she was the key.

And Ms Peridot: You have seen how CRAZY some bloggers are. We KNOW how CRAZY some people in our society are.
By publicly putting the spotlight on Misty (a 16 – 17 year old girl), they made her a target of any whacko out there who could have done something awful to “try to get to the truth.” I won’t spell out what I’m talking about but I’m sure you can imagine. That’s what I mean.
Maybe that was a remote possibility but nevertheless it was a possibility and LE did it.

And

ms.peridot19 said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

kool look and treece, i too am afraid for misty, but, not because of the police. i am more afraid of the limited education, no job skills, and the drugs and partying. she may be living with another man already. if not already, she may end up living like nay nay and amber – it maybe around the corner. if i were blessed to have her as a daughter, i would fight THOSE people tooth and nail. but, now she is 18. she has to make her own choices now. i would still fight to get her away from all of that. maybe when they(parents, brothers) cannot do it for themselves they think they can’t make their daughter do better than they have.

AnneInTn said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

Vaquera said,in December 12th, 2009 at 6:01 pm Something isn’t right in putnam county, I feel sorry for the residents

==============
Kool, I totally agree.Something ain’t right in Putnam County.

==============

I agree also. I feel its gona come to a head soon imo.

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

TruthbeTold – I agree. Someone asked earlier why the reward wasn’t higher. Well I’m sure as soon as the public heard FROM LE that it was a “family” thing, not a “stranger” abduction, they thought, “oh, well. The child’s probably okay.” Or whatever but no longer felt the same way they did before.

I think LE’s announcement of their “conclusion” put a stop to a lot of things that might have helped in some way – including contributions to the reward.

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

Drugs have run rampant as far as I can see and if they arrest everyone for drugs they wouldnt have enough space to put all of them. Some how they need to stop the drugs from coming in, and that is a big job. Most of the crimes are because of the drugs in the first place. Take away the drug problems and there would be way less crime. jmo

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:15 pm

tobias, I agree about the drug problem. I am still totally baffled about where Tommy etc and Hank and Lisa and Misty and everybody else gets the money for their drugs.

However, take the drugs away and those people still don’t have an education or skills (except I think Hank Sr and Tommy put up drywall) and no jobs. So there would still be crime I bet. Not that that’s a reason not to stop drugs. But there again is something LE can’t seem to do in Putnam County.

ms.peridot19 said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

later cent,

tobias, you sound just like a dective i know.

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:19 pm

M2C, I cant agree with you because Hasanni Campbells reward is 75,000 with no media attention, just one woman who refuses to give up and she has raised all this money nearly by herself and a few businesses and car washes.
She is not a relative and just wants this little boy to be found. They have vigils once a month even when only 6 or 7 people show up.
Where is that determination in this case?
I wonder is there one person in this area that cares enough to have a vigil themselves or a car wash or anything to raise money? jmo

ms.peridot19 said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:31 pm

tobias, bless her heart. there are some very special people in the world.

treece said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:33 pm

tobias, this is the last thing I am going to post in opposition to you tonight but I just want to ask, how can you judge Ron or Teresa N heart? No one really knows how we would react if we were suffering as they are. We don’t know if we would feel so hopeless we didn’t know what to do. We don’t know if they have been instructed by LE not to physically hunt. We don’t know how many times they may have a private vigil or how many hours they may pray. I can only imagine how hard it might be to get up and face another day without knowing if Haleigh is ok, yet they have to provide some type of life for little Jr. My heart is sad for them. JMO thanks, Treece

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:34 pm

Please everyone go to the Hasanni Campbell case. The police have given up as far as I can see but one woman and a few people are not letting this go, they never had Tim Miller or anyone helping. But they are still looking.
At least Haliegh is still getting help by the media,bloggers,and hopefully LE. JMO

ms.peridot19 said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:35 pm

i had a friend whose father-in-law was murdered in his condo. the police took mary to one station and her husband and 18-19 yo son were taken to another police station. they were all kept seperate from ea. other. mary was told her husband confessed. and so on… her husband nor her son had really confessed. they told mary’s husband and son that she had told on them ea. to pressure/trick them. the real murderer was a teen in his building that killed him while robbing the man in his condo.

when i told a few people this story, they were outraged at the police for treating mary that way. but, this is how they catch people. also of course you have to be careful not to get false confessions. i really believe we should all have lawyers. but, then the lawyer earns their pay by telling you not to talk.

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:36 pm

tREECE, nOT ONCE DID i MENTION THE FAMILY. i AM TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.

JB said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

I recall a volunteer or someone stating that they wanted to search a wooded area for Haleigh after she first went missing and LE wouldn’t let them because they said the area was “dangerous due to criminal activity” or something like that. IF LE knows that the area is dangerous and full of criminal activity (drug manufacturing?) then why don’t they clean it up and make some arrests? That never made any sense to me. That is like LE telling you not to open an account at a certain bank because it is being robbed but doing nothing to stop the robbery! AND if LE believes this abduction to be an “inside job” by a family member then why haven’t they arrested someone? There is only so many family members it could be! I mean, can’t they eliminate suspectc within the family by proving alibis or something until they at least narrow the field!? What are they doing to find Haleigh and/or her abductor?

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:45 pm

Treece, I was not talking about the families.
There are churches in Putnam county arent there, they could hold vigils every month and take small donations toward the reward money, people in the community could hold car washes,
do odd jobs anything to donate money towards a reward. No one is doing anything to help these suffering families, they could help get a PI WITH DONATIONS TOO. JMO

tobias said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

good night everyone, Dont forget to pray for Haliegh and her family> Hope for better news On Sunday, we may all be surprised.

ms.peridot19 said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

tobias, i see no new news for about a month
do you have a website you recommend or just look through the news and sites?
TIA good night all (wave)

JB said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 6:57 pm

Treece – I think the point Tobias is making, at least IMO is that there is no community involvement. The community could be raising money to find Haleigh (one of their own). Are they not helping because of drug use in the family, criminal activity and behaviors and/or because this appears to be an inside job? Who knows! I’m sure there are good people in the community….I just don’t see very many of them stepping up in the search for Haleigh. We may never know the reason why but I can honestly say that if I were a member of that community it would be difficult for me NOT to judge this family and I mean BOTH sides. I’m certainly no saint but I’m not sure how involved I would want to get with these people either.

Ms. Peridot – what I don’t understand is why the FBI wasn’t involved in the first place. Obviously a crime was committed – the child is missing and there is enough criminal activity in Misty’s family alone to fill the County Jail. Does anyone know what the requirements are for the FBI to stop in? Does local LE have to request them? If so, why hasn’t LE done so? Now I would LOVE to see Misty go through an FBI interrogation! 🙂

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

tobias @ 6:19 You did not understand my comment about why the reward is low if you are comparing it to Hassani’s which is high.

Please re-read my comment. The reason I was suggesting is that the community AND the general public have been given the idea that the police KNOW who did it, it’s a family thing and that does not compare with hunting for an “unknown” abductor or – like in the case of Somer Thompson, an unknown killer.

I think overall you need to try to understand the dynamics of a small community in order to stop blaming both them and the families and demanding that they do what YOU think they should do.

JB said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

*step in….:oops:

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

Oh, and the other reason there is only the $35,000 reward is because Tim Miller confused everybody when he had his friend write Ron a check for $30,000 (remember that?).

That was totally misunderstood by a lot of people who now think that the reward is $60,000 or $65,000.

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

JB – It’s my understanding that the FBI was there at first and helped check out the known SOs in the area. Not sure what else they did. Then they left. I don’t know why. I, too, would like to know how these things work.
And why the FBI is not still involved.

I think they are supposed to be if it is KNOWN that a child is taken over state lines. But that’s stupid if the child is missing, how is anybody supposed to know where she is?

And the Law says.... said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

Because there is no pending charges to be filed in the near future, because there is no arrests to be made in the near future, because there has been no apparent forward motion on this case, you can all write to Putnam County Sheriff’s Office, the State Attorney that would do the prosecuting on this case, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, and the Attorney General for the state of Florida and ask for what information they do have on this case under the Sunshine Law.

If you go to the Forums there is a post in the Haleigh section that has the Sunshine law posted and it is towards the bottom that explains all of this.

m2c♥ said,

in December 12th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

Tobias, I hope you will read my previous posts about some of the reasons I think the community may not be more active.

But I would like to know what you are getting at, what is your point about the (seeming) lack of it? Do you think the community is involved (like a Twilight Zone episode where the whole town is in on it?). Or do you think that local LE is corrupt and the community is afraid of them? Or what is the point or theory you are suggesting by going on about this?

One more thing about small communities: In a way sometimes everybody knows everybody else’s business and in another way at times people leave well enough alone (for different reasons). And this community was torn apart from the beginning by the Crystal vs Ron battle (thanks to KP). So there are probably pretty deep divisions between families and friends and friends of friends etc. So a vigil held by someone who is known to have a connection to one side of the family could be an affront (and cause for trouble and bad feeling) on the part of others who are friends with the other side.

It’s a mess. And obviously – for whatever reason – Haleigh needs more help than she’s getting from local LE, the community etc.
That’s why we need to get busy and try to help. Not keep complaining about what others aren’t doing. IMO

stormgardner said,

in December 13th, 2009 at 12:17 am

It’s possible that the community might be a bit more responsive if Ron & Crystal were to stand united as parents and demand answers about their daughter. They need to all come together and work as a family. That could go a long way. If I’m not mistaken, Nancy Grace has extended an open invitation to Haleigh’s family. Not just Ron, but both parents need to make a public plea for the return of their daughter. I was using Nancy Grace merely as an example. I understand that she can be pretty intimidating. She didn’t go easy on Crystal. Irregardless of how anyone feels about Crystal, she is still a Mother who who is grieving for her child. I’m sure there are other media outlets that would extend the same invitation.
With all the bickering going on between the family’s, the community probably doesn’t know what to think or what would be the best way to help. Surely there are some good people in Putnam County. I think they need to hear from the parents how they can help best. I’m not sure raising the reward money would help at this point. It couldn’t hurt though.
At Christmas time people seem to be more caring & giving. What better time to ask the public for help in finding Haleigh?
Just something I’ve been thinking for a while now. They need to put their differences aside and work together. It might even help to ease a little of their pain. Only they know as parent’s of Haleigh what it’s like to wake up to the nightmare everyday.

treece said,

in December 13th, 2009 at 12:56 am

stormgardner, I agree it would be nice if they could work together but I think Kim P ruined that. They were being kind and supportive of each other but after all the accusations Crystal made to Ron I doubt they could ever be on good terms again. I know if I had not abused my child and my x and her wild lawyer accused me of abusing my child I would never trust either one of them again.

treece said,

in December 13th, 2009 at 12:57 am

I am tired and going to bed, hope you all have sweet dreams. Treece

DustyRose said,

in December 13th, 2009 at 1:38 am

IMO the reason there has not been anyone come forward who seen anything is because there isn’t anyone who seen anything. IMO the person parked close by, entered,left and went undetected. The reason there has not been anyone come forward with what happened is because there is only one person holding this secret,the person who did it. The best way to keep a secret is to make sure no one else ever knows your secret. There are only a couple possibilities to accommodate the above. The person has no significant other/others or was in a situation that it would not of applied a significant other that would of noticed their absence. 2ND some one is covering for someone in terms of time line. There was a case a few years back that turned out to be a married father of two, the girl he killed was mere months younger than his he was a coach stable in his job no record no drugs. He never told anyone however his wife lied for him and gave a phony time line to Police, she later told a friend and that friend contacted the Police. Some where along the line something is going to give in this case but who ever knows anything needs to come forward and give this family peace and closure

TruthBeTold said,

in December 13th, 2009 at 3:11 am

I really don’t think it is fair to blame KP for the accusations Crystal made. That was Crystals doing and started with Geraldo, not KP. Go back and watch the video’s from day one and you will see. Please put blame where it belongs, Crystal could have united with the Cummings family to fight whom ever it took to get to the truth of what happened, but instead she chose to sling mud and create a circus that has taken the focus off Haleigh.I have read the bar complaint and have to wonder if the main focus was on the $$ or the safety of Jr. when she did as she did.

ms.peridot19 said,

in December 13th, 2009 at 8:51 am

And the Law says…. said,in December 12th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

thank you for the information ms.p.

JB said,

in December 13th, 2009 at 9:08 am

M2C – TY for the info on the FBI. And you are right – if a child is missing how does the FBI know whether they’ve been taken across state lines or not? Perhaps they should get involved JUST BECAUSE a child is missing…especially when LE seems to have hit a wall in the case. If a child is molested, raped and/or murdered is it really a more horrible crime if the perp takes them across state lines to do it? I think not. This has been a pretty high profile case so I really don’t understand why the FBI didn’t stick with it. TY again.

m2c♥ said,

in December 13th, 2009 at 9:16 am

We cannot change other peoples’ behavior – the community, family or parents. The only thing we can change is OUR behavior. So if anyone wants progress on this case I suggest you write to all the powers that be and demand that the investigation get a jump start, possibly by a new group (take it out of the hands of local LE).

Or just ask that Haleigh’s disappearance get a fresh look from the start. Whatever you want to suggest is fine. But write to those federal and state agencies. To me that stands a better chance of being productive than telling the parents or community what they “should” be doing.

Also IMO, having the parents on national TV again would do absolutely nothing but create a spectacle for the voracious appetite of the public. I can’t see it actually helping find Haleigh at all.

m2c♥ said,

in December 13th, 2009 at 9:28 am

TruthBeTold: I sort of agree with you but I don’t think Crystal “decided” anything herself. I don’t think she’s capable. I think someone else – perhaps a member of her family – encouraged her to start attacking Ron and trying to get custody of Jr and then KP got brought into it and it all got worse.

The biggest benefit (and mystery- to me) is that in the process Crystal got $12,000 back child support paid for her. I’m still pretty curious about that. And have to wonder if LE ever looked into that.

BOLDONE3 said,

in December 13th, 2009 at 10:17 am

I need to add post this:

LE is to blame for a blotched or bad investigation. There Dummies. And if they had the FBI involved, this case would have been over by now.
LE in Putnum Cty is no better than the civilians that live there.

m2c♥ said,

in December 13th, 2009 at 11:07 am

And the Law says, December 12th, 2009 at 8:10 pm –
You and Native Alien seem to be trying to do the same thing. Get the information gathered by LE so far released to the public under the Sunshine Law. Have either of you had any success or heard back on that?

The reason I’m asking is because the law clearly states that info in an on-going criminal investigation is exempt from release under the Sunshine Law.

So, to me, it’s a matter of opinion – you and Native Alien seem to think it no longer qualifies but I’ll bet that PCSO and FDEL won’t agree.

I think some “power that be” will have to decide whether it qualifies as an on-going criminal investigation or not. So we can ask all we want but I think something like this would end up being decided in a courtroom. For example, if one of the news orgs wanted the info they could take the issue to court.

I don’t think it’s going to be a matter of a bunch of us writing and requesting that the info be released.

Justice said,

in December 13th, 2009 at 11:39 am

Good morning, m2c!

I noticed that another Florida TV station has the Haleigh Cummings Family/FBI story. It is a good thing because it is getting Haleigh’s name and picture out there! This station is in Orlando, Fl.:

That’s great, Justice! Thank you for finding and posting this! Those g-mas have some gumption, don’t they? Good for them!

AND we should back them up!

m2c♥ said,

in December 13th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

Below are three places we can send emails to in support of Haleigh’s grandmother’s request.
You can write whatever you want and/or refer them to the article at cfnews13 that Justice posted the link for above:

At firstcoastnews.com
On Your Side
Phone: (904) 633-8825
E-mail: onyourside@firstcoastnews.com
Questions and comments for Consumer and Investigative Reporter Ken Amaro.

Holly's Gmom said,

in December 13th, 2009 at 1:43 pm

I’m finally concious after a horrigying experience with an severely abcessed molar. Yicks! By the time I was able to see a dentist my face looked like I had shoved a softball into my left cheek. I had it pulled on Wendsday and am just now starting to feel ok. Weak, tired, but ok.
I had so many thoughts as I read this thread that I had decided maybe I should write them down as I had them to keep track, Well, guys it up being like 5 notebook pages worth, so I’ll hit the highlights for you.

Hangnon: @ 6:59 am
OMG! Is it true? Can it finally be happening? Have our pleas and prayers been answered? Not only about Haleigh’s family having a united front. If the parents can’t or won’t…by goodness let us Grannies take the wheel. Also that there might be more Federal attention on this case and county.

SharpVisions@11:08 am I’m with you on that even if it has nothing to do with Haleigh. That guy needs to be shut-down.

M2C @ 12:10 pm Well said and you couldn’t be more right. Bravo!

Tobias@12:26 pm I had not given much attention to the Hassanni Campbell case, but I vow to do so right away.

m2c@ 3:22pm DITTO!

Paw69@3:27 I totally agree.

HANGNON@ 3:50 PM I bawled the whole way through. As the words filled the screen I took those moments to imagine, to try to truely feel what they feel and imagined “What if this had been Holly?” Tears rushed down my face with such blinding emotions of rage, sadness and utter desperation. Then while you are trying to even wrap your head around this thing that’s happened, while you’re still ripped apart and bleeding from a wound that can’t heal, not yet.. all the he said she said, accusations and even inquisistions. I admit it I’m guilty. I’ve been insensative to both sides at times, but I can only say it really was only in an effort to find Haleigh. I though about how well my own family, extended and friends would hold up in the nation spotlight. Not too good I guess. Then when I heard her Aunt Tina’s voice and the words she spoke drove home to me the fact that there ARE family members who are mourning her absence, they do love and miss her.

Tobias: @ 4:39 pm You’ve said a mouthfull! I-10 corridor out of LA straight across the south to Florida where I-95 continues south to Miami/Tampa/St Pete or any port city on the peninsula. Or they just turn around and run the racket in the reverse direction.

KoolLook: @4:54 am You are so right! I too have begged for a Federal Investigation.

JB@ 9:00 Am They have to be INVITED by local LE. Unless it can be proven the victim was taken across state lines then it becomes automatically FBI jurisdiction. Thereby they run the show.

looking for justice said,

in December 13th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

I would like to see Ron and Crystal put their differences aside and unite for Haleigh. I am glad to see the granmothers take a stand and unite. This is heartbreaking and it has gone on too long. I always pray for Haleigh and her families. Haleighs family needs to know that she is wrapped around our hearts and the love we have for her is if she were one of our own. Although we have never met Haleigh personally we have met her through the media, pictures and home video. Haleigh is so beautiful. One just cannot help to fall in love with her.
I know we all feel she is our little girl, but she is Gods child first and foremost and he will bring us to Haleigh and to whomever has done this horrible crime. They will receive just punishment for what they have done.

clue said,

in December 14th, 2009 at 7:42 am

I first became interested in Haleigh’s case because I could not understand how you can lose a child in the middle of the night and not notice. I’ve read the blogs here mostly because there was a passionate interest among all involved with this site to find this little girl. Initially I thought Misty was lying but RCs line when she was calling the police “how could you LET THEM TAKE HER???” What I heard in that comment was that RC must have had some threat from someone about taking Haieigh. Perhaps a drug debt; pay up or I will take your kid or (hypothetically) if you don’t have Haliegh then not paying $12,000 in back custody is NOT going to land anyone in jail.
No one in the family seems to believe Haleigh is dead. If Haleigh had a fatal medical issue, an accident or a drug overdose the in my heart I do not believe Ron or Misty would just “dump” her body hoping it would never be found (or that decomposition would make and determinations about her death impossible. I don’t believe either of them are bright enough to carry that out. I also believe they both genuinely loved Hailey and would not treat her body like garbage. They certainly could have made a more plausible story to a medical staff of how Haleigh accidentally got sick/injured/died than coming up with this abduction story.
I also don’t believe Misty knows any more than she has told LE about that night. I see she lies but about stupid thing like the wash, getting a drink of water…..kind of to add substance to something that makes no sense. I think its very plausible that she was passed out cold after her 3 day binge.
And it was expected that she would be.
I,m not sure I have the facts straight here but Ron called Timmy to check on Misty & kids (according to Timmy months later; Ron has never mentioned this). What if Timmy went over to make sure Misty was sound asleep. What if Timmy was offered a few bucks (drugs are costly) to take Haleigh to another location (where she’s be safe and well cared for, no longer abused by RC and maybe to help ease Misty’s burden in being forced to babysit RC’s kids all the time. Cousin Joe could use a few bucks too and he happens to be heading in that direction when he leaves. Timmy was at the MH earlier, maybe he gave Misty something to help her sleep better later? So knock knock, Misty is out cold, Timmy left the door unlocked and they can grab cinderblocks to prop the doors open and now Haleigh is gone.

A drug dealer might benefit from having Haleigh but she has health issues and RC would never allow this to happen. A family kidnapping? Mmmmmm…

1. Crystal and her family do not want Crystal going to jail and the kids staying with good old dad forever. I would be none of them want RC to have the kids at all.

2. Wasn’t there a story circulating (rumor) that possibly Crystal’s former boyfriend is possibly Haleigh’s dad and not RC?

3. There was also a post on another website by a woman who swore she saw Haleigh at a DRs office in Mass (I think on crimesearchersonline.com, cannot access that page at the moment). It sounded pretty credible to me and would explain that someone does have Haleigh and is taking care of her.

There would be an awful lot of explaining in order to undo what was done. And I think ALL the family members know what happened to Haleigh and that she is alive and its going to be very difficult to get her back without dragging quite a few people down who became involved

Just my thoughts

m2c♥ said,

in December 14th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

Clue, goo thoughts but the brother you are talking about, I think, is Tommy. Not Timmy.

clue said,

in December 14th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

Thank you for correcting that. This family confuses me to no end.

m2c♥ said,

in December 14th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

Sorry! I meant GOOD thoughts! Can’t type today!
🙂

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