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Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

Originally Posted by savafan

OBM, you're making this out like it is the second coming of the Frank Robinson trade. On the surface, at least right now, it's not that bad of a trade.

I guarantee you that ten years from now, people will be talking about this trade like they do with the Bagwell trade. Pena will go on and hit 500 homeruns in his career while the Reds may get a few decent years out of Arroyo...maybe.

Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

Originally Posted by savafan

OBM, you're making this out like it is the second coming of the Frank Robinson trade. On the surface, at least right now, it's not that bad of a trade.

No kidding. Step back from the ledge and breath, OBM. Reds need pitching, any pitching. Arroyo is a ground ball pitcher who's signed to a reasonable deal, these are the type of guys the Reds need to target. Losing WMP isn't great, but the odds are just as high the guy will never develop into the player people think he can be.

Some of you amaze me. Reds make no moves for pitching? You complain. They try and get some pitching? You complain. The Reds aren't going to spend $20+ million a year to sign the latest free agents like the Yankees, pitching will have to be developed or traded for, just the way it is.

Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine

I guarantee you that ten years from now, people will be talking about this trade like they do with the Bagwell trade. Pena will go on and hit 500 homeruns in his career while the Reds may get a few decent years out of Arroyo...maybe.

VERY VERY unlikely, pena is no where near the hitter bagwell was, pena has a horrible obp and strikes out every other time he steps to the plate

Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

Originally Posted by Reds4Life

Some of you amaze me. Reds make no moves for pitching? You complain. They try and get some pitching? You complain. The Reds aren't going to spend $20+ million a year to sign the latest free agents like the Yankees, pitching will have to be developed or traded for, just the way it is.

Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

Personally I like the trade, which I know puts me in the minority. I was looking forward to seeing Wily Mo Pena playing everyday, but at first glance I like the trade. The Reds offense is good even without Pena. What needs to get better is the pitching as we all know. Although Arroyo will never win a Cy Young, I don't believe we could have got more for Wily Mo.

I try to look at our players objectively and not overvalue, which sometimes people tend to do.

I refer to past statements from Marty Brenneman, if the GM (Krisky) could have made a better trade he would have. This was the best he could get.

Plus, I think the Pena's (not) playing in the WBC, rubbed the Reds the wrong way.

Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

I think the main problem I have with this trade is that it appears that Hatteberg now becomes your everyday 1B. As if Womack starting at 2B wasn't bad enough, coupled with this = not good. If Freel steps into LF or they find a spot for Denorfia, hey, I'll take the "wait n see" approach. But come OD when the right side of the infield is Hatte and Womack, :sick:

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