BoomFrog wrote:I actually disagree with mpolo. From mpolo's perspective there aren't enough scum without mark to make a scum team. Therefore one of me or laserguy is probably scum. But mpolo hasn't come to this conclusion yet haha.

I actually literally came to that conclusion 6 posts above your post.

My thought on Mark is that if he is town, he is likely a power role. His seeming sheeping of BoomFrog could just indicate "best town read" and possibly even "recipient of a fruit", if he is actually the fruit vendor. If that is the case, then BoomFrog has an airtight reason to trust Mark, assuming the jimbob strategy was employed. In my mind, Mark is still a possible scum candidate, but the link to BoomFrog that I detected seems to be a null link, and I don't see where he is linked to anyone else.

So, yeah, I think I'm going to stick with Mark. I think he's scum but I'm not confident enough to risk game-end over it. It's pretty clear Mark can't keep up with the game while he's abroad so replacement or modkill seem very likely. Modkill more so than replacement. I'm personally against a zombie replacement at this stage of the game (N1 is fine but after that not so much) and I get the feeling there aren't any replacement candidates hanging around in gojoe.

I'm not sure I see your logic plytho. If Mark is scum, which your vote implies you believe him to be, then a modkill is beneficial to town. If Mark is town, then a Mark lynch is also not good. What you are implying is that you believe both of Mark and whoever you think will be lynched (i.e. wam or moody) are town. Which is directly contradicted by your actions.

IGMEOY plytho (I'd usually FoS at this time, but everything else about your play is so townie!).

jimbobmacdoodle wrote:I'm not sure I see your logic plytho. If Mark is scum, which your vote implies you believe him to be, then a modkill is beneficial to town. If Mark is town, then a Mark lynch is also not good.

Oh, boy! My favorite part of the game, when everyone decides whatever little pieces of supposed scumminess have added up to a lynchable amount. I've been open about my motivations, so anything I could say now would be repeating myself.

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Tigerlion wrote:Well, I imagine as the game progresses, various people will be getting moody.

BoomFrog wrote:I still have no idea what town moody really looks like.

Plytho's argument about the result of lynching Mark is actually pretty compelling. I wish we had a clear idea of whether a replacement or modkill is likely, though, so that we don't have to go with tactical voting.

Thanks Plytho for pointing out the implications of me getting confused about setups, that’s really fascinating! And I am kind of embarrassed I didn’t think of it.

I’m glad people seem to be moving away from Mark, but I personally am on the side of voting lurkers out so that we only have to pick between high posters in the endgame - not that that means that I think Mark should be voted off, mind. Just that it’s the policy I tend to prefer.

@mpolo, BoomFrog: if you don’t see anyone linked to Mark, who do you see linked together? Why is plytho finding me townie not just evidence that plytho is my scumbuddy?

Mark should definitely claim. I don’t think anyone else should though (except our next most viable voteoff candidate)

About to go to bed, not going to be online at deadline because it’s 3am.

@BoomFrog: I want to sheep plytho but I am not voting for Mark, so I guess there’s only one option for me:

vote: moody

In the words of many a survivor juror, “this is not a vote for moody, this is a vote against mark” (except unlike the survivor final tribal council, you DON’T want to see your name on the parchment, but I digress)

Why is LaserGuy townie? Just good posting? Or just the extremely wonderful personal anecdotes?!

I don’t think plytho’s slip is scumslip because it’s the sort of thing I can see myself saying by accident: then again maybe because I’m careful I’m not the sort of person who would say something like that by accident, so perhaps it’s all null.

Meta: I’ll keep playing during my holiday but expect 1-2 sentence phone posts once a day, given my inability to scumhunt it’s probably not going to ruin me as much as it’d ruin others. I’d prefer to get replaced though for obvious reasons and also for “may not have reliable internet” reasons.

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jimbobmacdoodle wrote:I'm not sure I see your logic plytho. If Mark is scum, which your vote implies you believe him to be, then a modkill is beneficial to town. If Mark is town, then a Mark lynch is also not good.

jimbobmacdoodle wrote:I'm not sure I see your logic plytho. If Mark is scum, which your vote implies you believe him to be, then a modkill is beneficial to town. If Mark is town, then a Mark lynch is also not good.

Right. Haven't had enough chance to think about it. I think the logic is sound enough, although my main concern is not the logic itself, but more the way you've gone about acting around it. At work now, will try to think about it more on the way home.

Going back over the plytho logic, this bit of his post is the most concerning. If you think Mark is scum, lynching him is the logical course of action, as we can't guarantee a modkill. Indeed I'm opposed on principal on relying on modkill to influence the game, regardless of alignment. However, I think your logic does ultimately make sense otherwise (i.e.the conclusion is sound, if not the steps taken to get there). I do still want to review possible Mark buddy partners.

BoomFrog (?) made an interesting point about No Lynch, since that is the usual course of action in MYLO. I think this is only a reasonable course of action if we're pretty confident Mark is town and is going to be modkill. I'm not confident on either point.