Panzer 4

I have unlocked the basics for this tank, i have 75% crew with mostly the T4 items, but nothing advanced yet.
I am finding T5 to be horrible, no matter what tank u are in, and i seem to hit, and crit alot with this tank, doing 0% damage and gaining poor amounts of exp. I cant hurt the T8 tanks i get out in battles with, and i got this tank as i like being a sniper, i also hated the M4. Seems such a waste when u work so hard.
Has anyone had similar experiences? Does anyone have any advice on what to do with this tank? And how to do more to help ur team in battle, other than being a target so ur friends dont get killed as fast

Yes, stock Pz IV is crap. Did you researched engines on Pz IIIa? If not, buy Pz IIIa or III and get them. You should also have FuG7 unlocked before. Most important is getting L43 and L48 guns first so you can actually damage anything, but Pz IV is only great after installing Schmalturm and L70. Tip: don't install Schmalturm until you get L70, it has worse traverse speed.

well, I have PzIV still, and I own Bat Chat and T54. I will never sold my pzIV

At first, I thought you meant you can destroy a BatChat/T54 with a PzIV, and I was preparing to call bullsh** on you. Then I checked your garage .

Regarding the issue of the tank being useless: seriously, I had the same problem as you did when I got to PzIV. I grinded my way through Pz38na, and, at first, the PzIV sucked so hard. And until you get the Schmallturm and the L70 gun it will continue sucking just as hard. There is literally NO redeeming feature until you get those 2 items. Guns suck big time, paper side and back armor which prevents you from getting up close without being finished off even by a loltraktor, and, on top of that, slow.

But trust me, everything changes when you get the Schmallturm and the L70. Just hang in there and grind your teeth a bit more, it's worth it.

As said before get yourself the 7,5cm/L70, but I have to warn You though. Playing is going to get much better, but be prepared that Your tank will look sh*te. Fortunately, there are fellow modder-players that are Your salvation. Panzer IV turm mit Schurzen is a way to go.

i bought the pz4 afther eliting the pz3/4 and while using the 3601, at first i thought it was crap, not agile, crappy armor, no gun, but once i got the last gun with the last turret i could damage kvs and other t6 from long distances(since a kv can kill you in 1-2 shots, long range is your advantage over them)

For me, Pz IV is a good tank. The new turret has a huge armor for tier 5 (120mm). I have destroyed much many enemies. And now i have the elite status at my pz IV, AND aprox 100000 experience points. BUT now, in the 7.2, a Pz IV is very expensive.

Yes, stock Pz IV is crap. Did you researched engines on Pz IIIa? If not, buy Pz IIIa or III and get them. You should also have FuG7 unlocked before. Most important is getting L43 and L48 guns first so you can actually damage anything, but Pz IV is only great after installing Schmalturm and L70. Tip: don't install Schmalturm until you get L70, it has worse traverse speed.

Pz IV with Schmallturm without the L70 is not a good idea, you need to remain agile and you lose your agility with the Schmallturm. If you have the L70 researched you have one of the best Tier 5 weapons and you're about the only tier 5 medium higher tier tanks can not ignore, which is a questionable quality . It's more of a heavy medium hybrid with sniping qualities, it's definitely not good in a brawl, there the Pz 3/4 does better. I think the best tactic for this tank is to play it in packs so you have someone watching your sides, because they're made from paper.