@Suvitruf Well, if we don't, we're still keeping him away from something that encourages deeply unhealthy behavior.

Now historically, in general, I've felt there's three main reasons to suspend someone - to discourage a specific problem behavior, to protect other people from a users, or to protect a user from themselves.

And the point of a suspension isn't the suspension. Its the intended change in behavior.

does "not being here because I no longer find the place welcoming" count as yes or no?

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I have what I believe is reasonable judgement in how to talk to people, so I'll always do what I feel is right (which might include not being here if I don't feel I can expect fairness from whom makes the calls)

What the h-e-double hockey sticks was that kick for? I was literally censoring every word that could even possibly be found offensive even with the most stringent definition of offense! Can someone please explain to me?

@JourneymanGeek How in the world would I know that the sc-word was offensive, or that the j-word was? I mean I know of all the bad words like the f-word, and I never use it. But I genuinely cannot tell what that previous kick was for.

An article I read recently but that I unfortunately cannot locate at the moment made a really great point. It's not the words itself that are obscene. It's the intent behind what you're saying. A word list is pointless, because the words are not the issue. It's more an issue of how you're expressing yourself - if you're more likely to be using vulgar (note: not obscene) language, then you're more likely to be speaking in an obscene way as well.

@Mithrandir Oh I get it, I know there are plenty of bad phrases with benign words. But saying that someone is "being a j*rk" or that something got "scr*wed with"? I would have never, not once in my life, thought of that as so offensive.

@forest Everything depends on context, how toxic you're otherwise being, and if you've been warned before. It's not the language itself that's the issue; it's that you're being toxic and constantly trying to press the limits of what folks here are comfortable with.

@Mithrandir If you read the scroll logs, I was very polite before I was first kicked.

I asked what someone was doing in the past, and I was told they were exploiting a bug to delete other people's rep (I was later told that it was temporary and the result of caching). I said that person was being a j*rk, and got kicked.

He-double hockey sticks, simply mentioning that someone is being a j*rk for explicitly ruining other people's reputation is going against the CoC or something? If I said that Bittaker and Noris were a pair of rather unpleasant people, would I get suspended for that for being rude to them?

If I give the place an hour and come back, will I just get kicked the next time I say something that's not positive about a troll? Or use a word that I had never known was a bad word? I mean I'd love to put this behind me, but as I see it, no matter what I do, you'll find something I said and call it offensive.

I will try to be as absolutely polite and unoffensive as I can possibly be.

But please, if I use a word or phrase that is offensive for some reason, just tell me that it's offensive and I'll try to remember not to use it. Don't just kick me out of the blue for the j-word or the sc-word. That doesn't teach me, it just makes me mad.

Example: I would not have said what @M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ just said because of a worry that I would be kicked for being dismissive to people who have lost loved ones to choking-related accidents. That's the level of self-censorship I'm trying to employ.