(I've been on vacation, and so for anyone who thinks I should have dropped this already, STOP reading this thread. If you read these responses, they clearly interest you.)<br><br>Shooshie, you've sent me an email asking that we put this disagreement aside and not do our laundry in public. <br><br>Since you didn't provide me this decency over this issue, why should I provide it to you? You had the opportunity to reject my bio without discussing it with others, for maybe valid reasons. You had the opportunity to leave my bio-free in the Mozaic and chose not to.<br><br>The reason why I posted this here wasn't to have a discussion with any MC members, but to alert MM users how worse MC has become instead of better. I will not post this there because I do not wish to be there, and it is my hope that others who bounce in between will think twice about what a nice, friendly group MC is.<br><br>First of all, using NotTheOnlyOne's name was never an issue.<br><br>For you, no. For me, yes. As explained below, my name and address were asked for, and I believe- believe- you included my name in your bio. I was also asked if I could attend a signing party. What you don't seem to get is that no matter how big a parade y'all want to throw for the Mozaic- WHICH IS AN ISSUE IN IT'S OWN RIGHT- it seemed that doing as I promised wasn't enough.<br><br>Whether it mushroomed into a feature film where each of us would be paid a zillion dollars is IRRELEVANT to my desire to be done with it. Since I'm not obliged to be a part of any further developments, you and the Moz crew SHOULD HAVE RESPECTED that if I wanted nothing more to do with it after my contribution, than it would have to stay where it was and you'd have to deal with it, not retract it. I did NOTHING wrong.<br><br>We had made the decision to remove his tile before he ever even mentioned the name issue to me, and in the context of the time, I didn't even know that was what he was referring to.<br><br>That is a clever statement. Makes you sound like an angel and me an idiot. Now that I'm not on vacation I've just explained the name issue. Now.. when you say 'we had made the decision to remove the tile before he ever even mentioned..' you infer I had a choice. That is, if I had gotten back to you sooner, maybe things would have been addressed. <br><br>Did you send me an email saying my second bio was unacceptable, and that if I don't provide something better, I'm out?<br><br>No, you said my new bio was unacceptable, frustrating, etc., etc., and told me my tile WAS out. I hear that you claim great pain that you had sent me PMs that I ignored, but again-- despite your claims to the contrary- I wasn't visiting MC a whole lot and I missed them.<br><br>Furthermore, I set OW to only allow banners to blink twice. This has the unwanted side effect of making PM icon notifications blink twice quickly and disappear. If you think I'm making THIS up, check this forum where I praise this browser for doing as much.<br><br>The truth is that you didn't like having to pull my tooth to get a bio. But I did give you one, one that you claim is sarcastic but for some mysterious reason you refuse to print here. The reason why you refuse to is that it wasn't sarcastic and said nothing negative against MC. Go ahead- print it and prove me wrong.<br><br>AND EVEN IF IT DID, why not just put my virtual name, a title, and leave it blank? Why was that SOOOOOOOOOO hard? SOOOOOOOOOO unimaginable?<br><br>NotTheOnly1 is right in a sense that it seemed like people just decided they'd do this and that, and started asking for information. But everyone else jumped on the idea; the support was almost unanimous.<br><br>NO. I'm right in that I provided what was asked AND THEN people decided I owed them more. PERIOD. <br><br>Shooshie, you of ALL PEOPLE have championed AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN in political and religious posts too numerous for the Smithsonian to index the philosophy that individual ideas are not worthless in the view of the group. <br><br>YOU do not follow the pack as a way of living. So for you to even utter the argument that 'most of us had no problem with an idea and so NTO1 shouldn't either' is not only ludicrous from you, but sacrilege.<br><br>The difference between you and I Shooshie, and it's a sad difference, is that just because the water is filthy doesn't mean I'll play along and suggest it's drinkable. Even if I'm the ONLY ONE saying it, and I've got MC ninnies trying/failing to gang up on me and shut me up, I don't care.<br><br>The idea that I owed you anything apart from the tile and that- by not providing it- I had to have my tile withdrawn is undrinkable water. If you honestly feel that what the majority wants is what the majority should get, than in my eyes, all your 'compassionate' posts on all subjects are corrupt by definition.<br><br>I don't honestly believe someone with such a mind and heart can take the position you took without being pressured by others. But what do I know? According to you, I'm not only a twerp, but something worse than that you were ever so kind enough not to share. <br><br>As I've done with every artist's profile, I sent it to him the moment I finished it for him to proof. I said, "make any changes you want in red, and send it back to me." I was concerned that I would not hear back from him at all (I hadn't heard a word after a week of asking for anything he could give to help me out) It wasn't an hour after I sent the "finished" bio that he fired it back to me. About half of what I wrote was cut out. He said, "your words were nice, but those aren't the words I choose."<br><br>I misunderstood that the bio was to be written by you, no matter what. As a friend, you are aware that I'm a writer. A part of me found it odd that you needed to rewrite a damn word of mine, frankly. I'm no Shakespeare, but have you considered THAT for three seconds?<br><br>Also, that neat little paragraph NEGLECTS TO MENTION your words that presented me as an active member of MC. SENTENCES. Haven't you and I discussed my position already on this subject? Why would YOU present MC favorably in my bio, when I would wish otherwise given the choice? Did THAT sink in? Can't YOU see that maybe YOU pissed ME off by doing such in MY bio?<br><br>And by the way Shoosh, when I sent you back my bio, I thought you'd get the joke. Not agree with it, but say, "Oh yeah, NTO1 probably wouldn't like to be referred to as a member of MC, what the f%$# was I thinking?". You can say you have deadlines and all and that it annoyed you, but as a 'friend', you shouldn't have been too surprised. I'm sorry you were and took it personally, but as I clearly stated, "not a damn bullet" was aimed at you.<br><br>No answers to my next three emails.<br><br>Which all arrived minutes apart, and again, is a disappointing and deceiving statement. The truth is you were more frustrated with me than I knew- for I only learned of the 'ignored' PMs once you sent a personal email- and you had had it. You thought to wait another damn second was intolerable, and so f^%$ me.<br><br>Did I go this ballistic with you? What if after having been asked for my name, my address, if I could sign the work, and for two bios I said "Fsck you I'm taking my tile out of the mozaic!!!"<br><br>Can you see this Shooshie, or will you say and claim anything to avoid the possibility that you were "overstressed with 34 bios to write". Hey, I didn't ask you to write any bios. I provided my own twice. So that's.. MY fault?<br><br>I'm afraid not..<br><br>Looks like he wanted me to print what he sent, and he's not going to discuss it.<br><br>Hey, for the UMPTEENTH TIME, I was ON VACATION. Does that get any credence in your narrow view? I wasn't saying, "Take it or leave it" and much as "For the love of God, can these damn Mozaic inquiries please go AWAY?!? I'm on vacation, and never agreed to a ONE of these inquiries. Not a one!!!"<br><br>At first they thought about my writing his bio differently, editing out his offensive tone, but when I sent them the correspondence to read, they changed their minds. NTO1 had made it clear that he is not a part of the group and that he did not care about this thing, and that he had done all he was "required" to do, so leave him alone and print what he wrote. The decision in the end was a painful and reluctant one, but a unanimous one: Replace him.<br><br>When I submitted my tile, I made it clear I was a part of the Mozaic. Then y'all formed a group and throw a parade for yourselves. I didn't want to join. <br><br>Why?<br><br>One obvious reason: it has ties to MC, which I have recently broken for the most part.<br><br>A less discussed reason, and one I'm AMAZED no one from MM has murmured: it's a nice mozaic, it really is, but.. um.. so what? Are we artists? Is it art?<br><br>It's interesting, it really is. Since my painting know-how sucks, I'll give you that every tile included is better than mine. Okay? Having said that, I think a bunch of people have gotten a little carried away with themselves.<br><br>NOT A LOT. Just a little.<br><br>How many such posts have I put at MC saying as much? I believe it's zero. Again, if y'all want to throw a parade, I won't rain on it. Just don't ask me to march in it either. Shooshie, by writing a bio FOR me which stated my membership in MC, you were pushing me to march. I pushed back. Then, y'all detonated.<br><br>Be adult and honest. The reason why you detonated is that I've been most vocal about ditching MC, and I think some of you just said 'Fsck him and the horse he rode in on.' That would be fine from many over there Shoosh.<br><br>I just thought you were different, that's all.<br><br>While it made us all sad, and while I personally felt responsible for this whole uproar, the truth is that NTO1 dug his hole with his own shovel.<br><br>So sad, in fact, that no one has said as much. Don't insult my intelligence Shooshie. I didn't dig any goddamn hole and you know it. Y'all held up a hoop, asked me to jump through it six different ways, and while on VACATION I got a little upset about it.<br><br>You also fail to note that most of my second bio was quite usable, and that by dropping a sentence or two, none of this would have happened? Why didn't you? If you didn't need me to write my own bio, why did you suddenly need me to approve jack squat? In fact, why didn't you ask me if I'd like a bio at all? Oh yes, I remember, unanimous, cerebral palsey, blah-blah-blah. <br><br>Nonsense.<br><br>YOU asked me to jump through hoops, not IF I'd like to jump through hoops, and then you overreacted. If you're right, there's no need to say you feel sorry. People feel sorry when they've done something wrong, not right.<br><br> I was as kind and open about things as I know how to be, and never made demands on you, but always just asked for your cooperation.<br><br>If you were kind, open, and not demanding, you would have asked if we should skip my bio altogether, not the tile.<br><br>I know I got angry in the end and called you a twerp, and I apologize for it, but in defense I must say that I'm only human, and everyone has their limits. You just pushed past mine.<br><br>And you and your's had long pushed past mine, but that receives no respect or even admission on your part.<br><br>What is important here ISN'T that my tile should or shouldn't be included, but HOW a group of people can so easily eject a contributor out of one side of your mouths, while throwing a parade for yourselves as artists and great humanitarians out of the other.<br><br>THAT is why I posted my post here, and I stand by it, even if I'm the ONLY ONE that agrees with me.<br><br>This will settle, and perhaps you'll have a change of heart and care to rejoin us at some point. I hope you will be my friend when you do that. Meanwhile, I wish for you some solace and introspection; it's a good chance to learn some things.<br><br><br>I appreciate you're a parent, but could you be a little more patronizing 'friend'?<br><br>If you can get off your high horse, you perhaps you'll have a change of heart after a time of solace and introspection.<br><br>It'll be a good chance for you to learn some things..<br><br>Do you rhumba? Excellent! Now pick a rhumba and sit down.. GM

What language are you typing in? "but you read a make a stupid comment." - that isn't any form of English I've ever seen.<br>As I said in the other thread, "You presented your side, we presented ours, and the issue was resolved last week. It's over, done, finished, completed... GET IT!!!"<br><br>Lets just let it be...<br><br><br>[color:red]semicolon dash parenthesis</font color=red>

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