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“The principle for which we contend is bound to reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form.”President Jefferson Davis, C.S.A. I believe that time is now. The “Federal” government, having been given supreme and unchecked power for over 150 years now, has expanded their control and eroded our Liberties to the point that many of the sheeple are beginning to realize something is wrong. When a government has bloated itself beyond ridiculous measure even those that have been indoctrinated through the “education” system can see that we’re in trouble. It’s no wonder that “the principles for which we contend” is making a come back. One hundred fifty one years of Northern education consisting of rewritten history and lies could not erase the feeling many of us have had here in Dixie that something very important was lost….and now is the time to reclaim that Liberty.To live in such a time is an honor. I get goose bumps thinking about it. But the excitement needs to be tempered with sober reality. The times ahead are going to be traumatic. With the US government on the verge of a fiscal cliff and economic collapse,there will be an overreach of “emergency powers” to “save the Union” (yeah, where did we hear that before??). Homeland security has already declared military Veterans as potential threats to the USA. Also in that list are people who know how to grow their own food, are qualified in CPR, etc. Really? They will become desperate and people in power who are desperate are dangerous people indeed.A people who have come together to form (or resurrect) their own government within their borders will not go unnoticed. They have successfully demonized the C.S.A. and deified Lincoln to the point that your average American would consider us as extremists,racists, idiots and rednecks who are uneducated buffoons. Little do they know that they are the ones who have been mis-educated. Nevertheless, once we have been perceived as a threat (despite declaring we do not advocate a violent overthrow of their government)the pressure and heat will be applied. To believe otherwise is foolhardy. After all, we’re talking about the gov’t who invaded it’s own citizens; ransacked whole communities,towns, cities; burned homes; stole all they could carry; raped, maimed & murdered civilians; killed livestock; burned crops. They left our people homeless, without food and without clothes to face winter. They laughed about it and then declared themselves to be righteous. Somehow, through the magic of rewriting history, the South became the villains. I don’t think they will hesitate to use force again.Being prepared for whatever may come our way only makes sense, but one of the obstacles we will face is the massive propaganda we have all faced at the hands of the“education” we received. The following is one of my favorite quotes:”Every man should endeavor to understand the meaning of subjugation before it is too late…”It means the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern schoolteachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the war; will be impressed by the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors, and our maimed veterans as fit objects for derision…”It is said slavery is all we are fighting for, and if we give it up we give up all.Even if this were true, which we deny, slavery is not all that our enemies are fighting for. It is merely the pretense to establish sectional superiority and a more centralized form of government, and to deprive us of our rights and liberties.”C.S.A. General Patrick R. Cleburne He obviously hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately his forewarning has come true to the point that Americans take the propaganda for gospel truth. The radio talk show host Mark Levin, who hates the big centralized government overreaches and socialism, believes that Lincoln was our greatest President. How could that be possible if everything he hates about our bloated government is only possible because of Lincoln? The answer is because the brainwashing of Americans has been very powerful and runs deep.One of the best advocates of the Truth is Professor Thomas DiLorenzo. He has written several books about Lincoln and the deceptive US government such as: The Real Lincoln and Lincoln Unmasked. I highly recommend all C.S.A. citizens read these books and as many of the other books referenced in Lincoln Unmasked as possible in order to be truly educated. It is through this knowledge that we will be able to combat the propaganda and lies that many people believe…even many of our own Southern brothers and sisters. I had an opportunity to debate a coworker about the reason for the War of Northern Aggression and one of his points was that the Abolitionist movement was a driving fact or that pressured the North to start the Civil War. If this is true then why would one of the top Abolitionists, Lysander Spooner, absolutely hate Lincoln? Also, why was Lysander an advocate for the South’s right to secede from the Union? Read Professor DiLorenzo’s books and you’ll know the answer.It’s great to be a proud Confederate, but it’s critical to be an educated Confederate. When you have the facts at your disposal the propaganda of rewritten history cannot hold up.This, the Truth, can be one of the best weapons we can use to defend our sovereignty.

Very true. I would also like to point out, if any nation had one of their generals do to an enemy what Sherman did to us, with blessings from dishonest abe, they would today be tried as war criminals. Jail time and/or executions would take place and reparation paid to the victims.

I would like to ask if abe would, today be on trial for having war with us, and if at the time it it was illeagal to secceed from a union as it is today.I do very well believe that Robert E. Lee was a true hero, because he unlike abraham stopped the killing instead of killing more.

Mr. Chambers,
These things that you mention, died in your country long before Barrack Obama. Obama is not the problem, he, like Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Carter, etc, are all only symptoms of the National Democracy government that occupy’s our Confederate States. We wish to restore the Founders Confederated Republic. We are not idle, we are working hard to restore that which was taken and is being denied, LIBERTY. If the name that you have given is correct, I just keyed it into our registry and see that you are not a registered Confederate citizen; Why? Why not join our cause, then you may see that we are not, “Idle”.

If the Obama administration signs this international treaty with the UN to disarm the American people, which is suppose to happen this March 2013, we will see a new civil war rather we want it or not when the UN troops are knocking at our door. International treaties, allows any of the parties to “assist” in enforcing that treaty and therefor would allow foreign troops to infiltrate out country side and homes, and would not hold the Obama administration accountable for invading their own country or charged with treason because it was a treaty signed for the “betterment” of the people with international parties who also see it in their bast interests to enforce such a treaty.

When this happens, it won’t just be US troops, in fact most likely until the Confederacy and Union have separated it will mostly be UN troops simply because most American troops will not follow orders to infiltrate their families houses and be prepared to open fire if necessary. UN troops have no vested interest in our people. You can see the states filing for secession again already since Obama won the presidency again. People in support of this are C.S.A. citizens and most are not and are not even aware it is an intact Government. When this happens, and the states separate from the Union once again. Be prepared! Every person who signed the petitions will be helping to re establish and defend our great government of the Confederate States of America. Idle we are not! We have no plans or wishes to attack ANY individual, organization, or agency, we wish for a peaceful secession. We are also prepared to defend and die for what is right, and for the people and for LIBERTY!

My great grandfather was General George Pickett, and though controversial, a confederate general non the less and I find it my duty and a privilege to defend and support the Confederacy to it’s wholeness.

why doesn’t the south stop whining like little bitches and fight for your own private government. because honestly i want to see the south die again! haha ha ha. FYI you lost because you were devided. the north won because they had a single goal, destroying the south. so grow a sack and try again cause i want to see you die trying!

EXAMPLE: the confederacy were so divided each state had their own currancy. while the union had a single currancy for the entire united states. just goes to show you UNITED WE STAND! DIVIDED THE SOUTH FALLS.

PLUS: the south will never rise again because you dumb white people cant learn to live in harmony with other cultures. the minute you cross the line every black, white, asian, german, russian,…… you see my point. they’ll kill you and your children to be sure you never get any thoughts of trying it again.

Sonny, The “South” is not made up of only “white people”.
I think that from your comments that you may be confusing Confederates with Conservative Republicans of your country. I do live in harmony with “black, white, Asian, German, and Russian people.
Your statement here indicates that you believe as the former Soviet Union, and North Korea, that anyone attempting to leave the so called union must be killed. This thought process of yours sounds like Tyranny to me.

what i hate is people who are unamerican. if the south was so great and inteligent they would have won the civil war. but the fact is the united states won because they had the brains to be friends with black people. the rebel soliders lost to black people. you want people to support your cause, KILL THE KKK! prove the south has changed

i read your COMPARE & CONTRAST section, and the part about america having slaves and the confederate states not is wrong. if the confederates were against slavery why did the blacks run to the north for safety? also did you know 20 of the confederates top generals and soldiars founded the KKK. and another tid bit the whole idea of no taxing is a sure way to burn your government to the ground.

Sonny,
You are trying to associate Confederates with the past, not the present. If you wish to compare our four year confederate past with your governments past since 1865, then I suggest that you read the article titled Symbols of Slavery, hate, and racism” it is posted on the articles section herein. As for the KKK it originally was a militia organization established to combat William Gannaway Brownlows (Parson Brownlows) militia, which was a terrorist organization aimed at terrorizing ex-confederates and confederate sympothizers during reconstruction. Once Parson Brownlow,s terrorist militia was disbanded, So to did General Forrest disband the KKK.
The KKK of which you write was a whole different animal from the original KKK.

fyi if the south did win the civil war there wouldnt be such a vast culture in this country. in fact if the south won it wouldnt be a country it would be tiny little colonies spread out. the souths biggest mistake was trying to give each state their own money and governments

Sonny,
Which “Country” is it that you refer to?
We are the Confederate States of America. I suspect we as an unoccupied confederacy would have little effect on the culture of your country, (The United States Inc). I cannot attest to what the cultural difference between your Country and mine would be, as we have been held under your National governments occupation since 1865, affecting our direction of peace and non intervention, etc….

first of all bub 1 cultural deference is texas is a leading supplier of crude oil, so the united states would have taken control of that oil weather the south liked it or not. yes the united states are tyrants but their great tyrants. could you say with an open mind that if the confederat states did survive do you think they would have a black president or abolish slavery? or even do buisness with other countrys

Sonny,
Your Empire has used hegemony to control all the worlds oil supply, that is why the majority of the States despise your Empire. This is why your Empire is in a state of continual war, and why the poor are sent to fight the rich mans wars. I see no greatness in tyrants or bullies in the school yard. Yes I can say with an open mind that Slavery would have been abolished long ago. I can also say with an open mind that the chance of a black man becoming President of the Confederate States of America, would be as likely if not more so here as in your Empire. I do not see things in terms of Black and White, or Race. Racism is found as much within your Empire as in our Confederate States, and likely in larger numbers. The most recent incident that comes to mind is the massacre of the Sieks in Wisconsin. Wade Michael Page was a product of your Empire. And Last, Yes we would be trading with other foreign States, as we have among the best farmland in the world, and also as you mentioned Oil, Copper and Zinc, and much much more to offer in trade.

i just read something funny, someone wrote in the introduction that the south never really surrendered. lol so tell me why is alabama and all the other so called confederate states still following barrack obamas orders? are you all just paying taxes till you get the ok to try and rise up? fact is the south surrendered your not confederates anymore your wannabes. if i was a confederate i would have died before seeing my country surrender. your ancestors had no heart they were to scared to die for what they believed in.

Sonny,
You did NOT read the introduction correctly, or you are intentionally being misleading. The introduction states that our Confederate government was never surrendered. Here is the actual wording….The Government for the Confederate States of America never officially surrendered to the National Government of America and thus still exists as an occupied government under the control of the National Government, (UNITED STATES, INC.)

yes the confederates did surrender. by giving up thats called surrendering they dindt need to sign any paperwork cause in war you either give up or die! just because theres no signed document doesnt mean the south didnt surrender. your talking about a sub-government inside a larger government. that is called a conspiracy. you better be careful saying that

Sonny,
No, you are incorrect. Our government, our constitution was forced into exile, but never surrendered. This has never been done, by our Confederate government, this is why an occupation still exists. We are not talking about a sub-government, we are talking about your empire being a defacto government, and our Confederate government being Dejure.

Sonny,
You state that…”what i hate is people who are unamerican. if the south was so great and inteligent they would have won the civil war. but the fact is the united states won because they had the brains to be friends with black people. the rebel soliders lost to black people. you want people to support your cause, KILL THE KKK! prove the south has changed” We are a government under occupation, your government is responsible for killing the KKK, as well as the Aryan Nations, the black Panthers, etc, Your government is in control of the occupation. The KKK and the others mentioned are a fabric of your culture. We despise all such groups based on hatred.

You use the term “Rebel flag”, our flag, the flag we use, is our Confederate Flag, not a “Rebel flag”. Rebel indicates Rebellion, each confederate State declared independence as sovereign States, this is not rebellion, therefore your use of the word rebel when referring to our flag, is incorrect. Our flag was not “created to symbolize segregation, this is a false statement. The Flag used by our government is the blood stained banner. The Flag used at KKK and Aryan Nation rallies is your Stars and Stripes, or Old Glory as many in your country refer to it, this is your government flag. The KKK and Aryan Nations, only use our Confederate battle ensign, NOT our Confederate Flag, yet they do use your government flag, NOT ours.
Your knowledge of history seems to be woefully lacking.

Sonny,
The States were Sovereign States at the time each seceded. For a State to exist, it must be a sovereign, otherwise it is not a State, but rather a Provence of a State. During the 1787 Constitutional debates, Gunning Bedford stated that….”That all the States at present are equally sovereign and independent has been asserted from every quarter of this house, our deliberations here are a confirmation of this fact.” You may also understand that the word “States” is plural, not singular, this indicates that they are separate States, not a single State. Therefore you cannot make the statement that the states rebelled against themselves, or that…
“those states rebeled they wanted to be soverign states, but the united states didnt allow it.”
Your statement does not even make sense. Your own words prove that your Empire,(The United States Inc), is no different than the former Soviet Empire, in that the assertion that States exist without the sovereign authority to leave is simply
perpetuating a lie, that they are States when the very evidence that they cannot exit the Empire that holds them hostage proves that they are not States, but rather provinces of a single consolidated National government.

Sonny,
your assertion that we want to live our lives like hippies is also incorrect. Our flag is simply our flag. You need to read the article on this website under the “older entry’s” titled….”The restoration of our Confederacy, is it really what you think?”. You seem to have a misunderstanding of our purpose and goal. Try and drop the indoctrination, and read what our cause is about, and you may see things in a different light. We care not about race. If you review our citizenship application, you will see that there are no questions concerning race. We care not what ones race, or skin color may be, race is not an issue, we only want freedom, from the occupation and our citizens to stop being forced to fund your Empires continual hegemony and perpetual warmongering.

well its like i said “If you want peace prepare for war” because the south aint as big as it used to be. texas wont back your cause theres to many rich people there. no one wants to change the way things are except you people in your 4 states. things will never change youll have 44 states bombing the crap out of you! if you dont like the way this country is run then leave go to canada. because things will never change. your confederate states would have failed. it was poorly thought out.

Sonny,
We did leave. Your Empire then invaded our Confederate States. We want your government to leave our Confederate States. You appear to be a very uneducated individual, I suppose this is the result of your governments indoctrination. Your addition seems to be lacking as well, 4 States, against 44 ? what happened to the other two? Do they remain neutral? Their are 13 Confederate States ane Three Confederate Territories. So by your insistance that your Empire will again attack if we try to end the occupation you are admitting that the “United States is NOT a union of States but rather an Empire holding former States hostage against the will of their people, thus incorporating, (Consolidating) those States into a single National Sovereign National State. This make everything for which your people present their government as a LIE.

oh one more thing about it not being a race thing, to you people and your foolish cause its not a race thing but to the rest of the united states it is. i dare you james to go to wwalk down the streets of los angeles or new york with a confederat flag t-shirt and see what happens. if you know your US history you would know that the united states had no problem with the south runing their own little society, but all the north asked was to stop owning slaves. the south refused. so the south had to die! and if i ever see anyone wearing a confederate flag im gonna shoot him or her.

Sonny,
LA and NY are cities in your Empire, not our Confederate States. Again, you do not know our Flag. You are referring to the battle ensign. We hold the same contempt for your flag as you hold for our battle ensign. As a descendant of the Nansemund,Powhatan, (Native American), Your American Flag represents the GENOCIDE of our people and culture to me. You write piously of accepting all culture’s yet your beloved Empire destroyed ours, and slaughtered our people. Took our children from their parents, placed them in re-education schools, beat them if they spoke their own language, forced them to assimilate into your culture breaking them and their spirit. Your American Flag is much more of a “race thing” than ours. What about your government and the Tuskegee syphilis experiments? Your American Flag represents that as well. Your words indicate to me that you are a hate filled racist. Am I right?

I have signed a petition entitled: “ Peacefully grant the State of Florida to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government”. As I see it this is a chance for our voice to be heard. To tell the United States Government that they are not welcome in our lands or our homes. To stand against those the wish to suppress and oppress the citizens of certain states while bolstering those of other states. Now is the time to use your voice, to be heard loud and clear. I ask each of you to please sign this petition, not for yourselves or just because it sounds good. Sign it for your children and for their children that will one day inherent this country. Ask yourself what kind of world do you want them to have. The if you feel that there is a better way then what to puppets in Washington envision for their future sign the petition. At current there are 20 states that are asking for their independence from the United States of America. I ask not only that you sign for your respective state but also to sign for the other states. Only with one voice can we gain our independence from the US Government. Here is the link to the one for Florida:

Patrick,
It is unnecessary for the Confederate State of Florida to withdraw from the United States of America, this act was accomplished on January 10,1861. The State of Florida currently exists under the occupation of a foreign National government, (The United States Inc). The current government and constitution in Florida are defacto. “To withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government”, would be to establish yet another defacto government where one already exists. The correct LEGAL path to follow is to simply restore Florida,s dejure government as it was before 1865, and at that point immediately amend Florida,s dejure 1861 Constitution, to form the government that the Confederate citizens of Florida choose to institute among themselves, otherwise Florida will still have a defacto government with its dejure 1861 government and constitution having legal claim to remove the defacto government that exists in its place. It is a matter of settling the unsettled and doing things the proper,legal, and right way.
“A question settled by violence, or in disregard of law,
must remain unsettled forever.” Jefferson Davis.
“The principle for which we contend is bound to reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form.”President Jefferson Davis, C.S.A.
Until the issue is properly settled it will reassert itself. FLORIDA MUST FOLLOW THE PROPER PATH TO END THE OCCUPATION. THIS IS WHY THE INTERIM GOVERNMENT FOR THE CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA EXISTS.

The Union was never meant to be held together by force. The Southern states joined the voluntarily, and they should have been able to leave it voluntarily. A key principle of Americanism is the sacred right of self-government, that government should only govern “with the consent of the governed.” This noble idea is expressed in the Declaration of Independence. came into existence by secession from England. There was only a war because England wouldn’t allow the American colonies to leave in peace. George Washington’s secretary of state, Timothy Pickering of Massachusetts, rightly said that America was founded on the principle of secession. Thomas Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of Independence and the third president of the United States, said in a letter to William Crawford in 1816 that if a state wanted to leave the Union, he would not hesitate to say “Let us separate,” even if he didn’t agree with the reasons the state wanted to leave.
The principle of peaceful separation was as American as apple pie. But Lincoln, relying on an utterly erroneous understanding of the founding of the Union, declared that secession was “treason,” “insurrection,” and “rebellion.” If he had been alive during the Revolutionary War and had used the same kind of reasoning that he used against Southern secession, he would have sided with the British
This shows that The United States Inc has a history of disregard for the rights of states and the rights of the people. While it would be great if The United States Inc would simply allow the Confederate States of America to simply take back what was wrongly taken from them, I do not see it playing out that way. The United States Inc only response to force or the reasonable threat of force. If I am wrong on this point I am all ears and await to be corrected. If not this would be a non issue as numerous members of the Union government and the military opposed invasion of the South. It was only with a sly move to send a resupply convoy to Fort Sumter, after it was promised to be evacuated of Union troops, that provoked a attack by Confederate forces which Lincoln then twisted to create a cause for invasion. The United States Inc has always and will always find someway to twist things to their benefit. It will take people that are willing to stand and say “No sir, not today not ever!” then further be willing to back their words with force if needed.

I am completely willing to aid in the Confederate cause to regain the rights, liberties and lands that where lost during the civil war. If need be I as well as many men that I know are even will to take to arms to ensure the freedom of the people from a government that seeks to enslave its own and force them to remain part of a whole of which they have no desire to be in. The United States Inc has become a self serving government that caters to wealth, certain special interest and in some cases even certain states. To steal a line from the declaration of Independence, “That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness”.

The short hand answer to everything that I have said in this post is, “ Whatever is needed I’m, as well as others I know, am willing to do. However things need to happen sooner then later as things are getting dire for some people in occupied states.”

Correct. I have been preaching the same fact to my petition signing friends on FaceBook. Alabama seceded in December 1860. I am hoping the petition graze will give the north enough headaches and be a distraction to allow the Confederate States to stand together as one again.

Amazing. I have to thank “Sonny” for proving the point I was trying to make with my article above. Reading through these comments it is apparent that “Sonny” is basing his arguments solely on the propaganda and lies he was taught by the US indoctrination (education?) system. An unbiased reader who has no knowledge of US history would read through these comments and most likely would come away believing “Sonny” to be a hate filled hothead. “Sonny’s” bad grammar and poorly structured arguments highlight his ignorance of the CSA, the War of Northern Aggression and the impact that war had on our society. As Thomas DiLorenzo has documented, slavery would have (and should have) ended with peaceful emancipation. A war to end slavery was unnecessary. Also, what is always left out is how poorly blacks were treated in the North during that time. But it is always the race card that is tossed around when people demonize the South. I too reject that as James has in his comments and can prove my point as my wife is not white. I have no hatred of anyone based on color, but make rational judgments based on a person’s character. I am a proud Confederate because I believe with my entire soul that the CSA stood for the basic principles that our Founding Fathers used to build a government. Lincoln killed that. The South was fighting for States Rights and a limited Federal government and continues to do so today. I am very pleased with this exchange between James and “Sonny” as it proves the very point I was making in my article. Despite the accusations, falsehoods and hate filled emotion that “Sonny” spouted; James kept his composure and met the BS with calm factual replies. This is a fine example of the intent of my article.

Texas, is and remains a Sovereign Republic just as do all thirteen of the States united in our Confederacy. Each State united in our Confederacy is a Sovereign Nation, united in a common cause. Our Confederacy is a voluntary commitment to the cause of Liberty, Not a forced consolidation into a single sovereign National government.