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I've only watched 2 of his games, both from this year. Vs GA State and MTSU.

What I've seen I have really enjoyed. Mainly because I like his eye work. A bit long armed in his throwing motion... but there IS something there that shows a certain potential that makes me giddy. Will be watching more soon.

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Rudolph and Jackson as the top two?? Good thing I'm not drinking anything at the keyboard anymore, I'd have spit it out,

laughing. we'll see how it all turns out.

I see....it was Draft Scout that had White as a a 2-3 round pick.

And...honestly at this point...I would rather see either Rudolph and Jackson ....and even White, over DeShone Allen...aka, Brandon Weeden Jr. The more I look into Allen....the more that that is what I see of him.

I agree with some of CBS' opinions- but care to explain how in the world they can have Mason Rudolph rated as their #1 QB prospect and the 5th quarterback taken in the draft? Other than their outlier- no other mock I've seen has Rudolph in the first round, and certainly not the #1 QB prospect. Does not compute.

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And...honestly at this point...I would rather see either Rudolph and Jackson ....and even White, over DeShone Allen...aka, Brandon Weeden Jr. The more I look into Allen....the more that that is what I see of him.

Somehow you missed the weeden when watching Rudolph?

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I agree with some of CBS' opinions- but care to explain how in the world they can have Mason Rudolph rated as their #1 QB prospect and the 5th quarterback taken in the draft? Other than their outlier- no other mock I've seen has Rudolph in the first round, and certainly not the #1 QB prospect. Does not compute.

Sure it computes. They have Rudolph ranked as the best prospect.....but Mock Drafts are NOT designed to rank prospects....they are projections of what the author of the mock thinks that teams will do. We have gone over this before. It is also likely that it is a different writer that does the mock than does the prospect ranking.

ALL of these are, after all.....just some mope's personal opinions on things....be it Kiper, McShay, Brugler, Mayock, you, me, or any other gasbag with a forum to get their opinions heard.

No...I didn't miss it because I didn't see it. (I have heard that Allen basically fits that mold) But I did note the same reservation that I had for Weeden....and Mayfield....and everyone else that has come out of the Big 12: Big 12 QBs cannot be trusted....as they have never been very successful.

As someone noted: NO Big 12 QB since the inception of the league (in like 1994) has ever won an NFL playoff game. The best ever has been Andy Dalton....who has lost 4 playoff games.

If the best the Browns can do with their drafting of a QB is to get another Dalton.....then I am all for going elsewhere with the pick.

I think it boils down to one of the Pac 12 guys likely. Allen....we got his clone now in Kizer. Mayfield and Rudolph....the Big 12 curse. Jackson....not unless we want like a Mike Vick type clone...who cannot throw nearly as well as Vick did.

Sure it computes. They have Rudolph ranked as the best prospect.....but Mock Drafts are NOT designed to rank prospects....they are projections of what the author of the mock thinks that teams will do. We have gone over this before. It is also likely that it is a different writer that does the mock than does the prospect ranking.

ALL of these are, after all.....just some mope's personal opinions on things....be it Kiper, McShay, Brugler, Mayock, you, me, or any other gasbag with a forum to get their opinions heard.

Go ahead and keep being obtuse. So yeah, if different guys are doing the rankings\draft I can see it. But if Rudolph is truly the #1 prospect (and as I pointed out only CBS does- and that's a major outlier in the discussion) there is absolutely no way in hell four other quarterback needy teams are going to pass on him.

Sorry if you think an outlier fits your argument. Walter has him #6 qb, ditto NFL.com. SI and Jeremiah don't even have him in the top 50 prospects. So CBS having him drafted (at best) in the lower half of the first round fits what the other draftniks and talking heads think about his ability. In other words, whoever at CBS ranked him the #1 qb prospect is crack head BS, and doubtless they'll change it after the combine. The new term being bandied around is click bait.

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Go ahead and keep being obtuse. So yeah, if different guys are doing the rankings\draft I can see it. But if Rudolph is truly the #1 prospect (and as I pointed out only CBS does- and that's a major outlier in the discussion) there is absolutely no way in hell four other quarterback needy teams are going to pass on him.

Sorry if you think an outlier fits your argument. Walter has him #6 qb, ditto NFL.com. SI and Jeremiah don't even have him in the top 50 prospects. So CBS having him drafted (at best) in the lower half of the first round fits what the other draftniks and talking heads think about his ability. In other words, whoever at CBS ranked him the #1 qb prospect is crack head BS, and doubtless they'll change it after the combine. The new term being bandied around is click bait.

Sorry Larry....you are the one being obtuse because: A. You are entering TCPO type of mental malfunction because you still do not seem to be able to tell the difference between a prospects rating and a mock draft...and B. I am NOT saying that Rudolph is the best prospect in the minds of the mass media.....I understand that most mock drafts and ratings of him do not have him among the top prospects.

What I AM saying is that NO ONE among this crop of QB prospects is all that impressive to me......that NONE of them are what any of us should think of as a sure thing. That for all any of us know this guy could be as good or better than all the others when the time comes to truly evaluate this group of QBs: i.e 3-5 years later.

I mean...look at it this way...I see this draft class as potentially similar to 2012 If anyone said they would think that the guy that was projected to be the 6th best QB of the bunch would turn out to be the best guy....then many of you on here would have said that whoever said that is crack head BS.....and would have doubted that would change. But here you go....QBs in 2012 in order in which they were drafted:

1. Andrew Luck

2. Robert Griffin III

3. Ryan Tannehill

4. Brandon Weeden

5. Brock Osweiler

6. Russell Wilson

7. Nick Foles

8. Kirk Cousins

Now...who would have thought that it was the guys that were the 6th and 7th QBs taken that year would be the ones to be Super Bowl winning starting QBs.....and that the guy that was 8th would be in line to become the highest paid QB in history.

So...the bottom line is: don't be all so effing Socksure that all these rating services and mock drafts will get things right. Would only that the
Browns not have been the dumbarses of the world and taken those 6-7-8th ranked QBs...instead of the one they got.

not at all, goober. I just admire talent - you and a few others, like little sissy markie drooled over manziel's completion percentages and how he had a strong arm. Others of us kept saying the red flags are a concern. Have a nice day, and God Bless Ya !

not at all, goober. I just admire talent - you and a few others, like little sissy markie drooled over manziel's completion percentages and how he had a strong arm. Others of us kept saying the red flags are a concern. Have a nice day, and God Bless Ya !

You talking to me? I had nothing to say about Manziel's completion pct.

All I can figure out is that you really must be a Communist. You love a guy with nothing but red flags. And the flags that I am talking about are just the bare bones statistics. Of the Top 6 candidates I already documented that your boy toy had:

1. The WORST completion pct.

2. The WORST QB rating.

3. The WORST TD/int. ratio

...plus the WORST in several other statistical categories.

Now...he might have the size of Brock Osweiler, and a Brandon Weeden/Derek Anderson/Deshone Kizer bazooka arm. And he might be the nicest kid this side of Brady Quinn...who seemed like a really nice kid. But the fact is.....it seems that he falls into comparison with all these other guys for a reason.

well, judge goober, you are a poor judge of talent, let's leave it at that. He also led his not that talented team to the bowl game,

and wowed scouts in it. I never once said he was a finished product, but let's all just watch the draft, watch their careers. You wanted to sit in a hottub with johnny manziel. Your fave rudolph won't be drafted that high as the top five, take it to the bank.

well, judge goober, you are a poor judge of talent, let's leave it at that. He also led his not that talented team to the bowl game,

and wowed scouts in it. I never once said he was a finished product, but let's all just watch the draft, watch their careers. You wanted to sit in a hottub with johnny manziel. Your fave rudolph won't be drafted that high as the top five, take it to the bank.

The dude using Josh Allen’s hog as a snorkel is in here talking about evaluating talent.