No offense bud. We just see things differently as regards the asu football coaching scenario. You seem to be a glass is half filled guy whereas when an organization has a history of mediocrity I remain glass half empty until proven otherwise guy.

Oh hell... no worries buddy! I'm feel like I'm simply being fair and realistic. I don't expect ASU to suddenly become the next Alabama! But, I see the changes and the progress Crow and Anderson have made since Ray joined ASU. Hasn't always been perfect, but much of what they do/done extends well beyond the field, or court of play. In short, Ray hasn't done anything yet to garner my disdain or my cynicism.