Sexual assault victims’ organizations are slamming evolutionary
biologist and leading atheist Richard Dawkins for comments he made about
the inoffensiveness of “mild pedophilia.”

Dawkins made the remarks in a recent interview with The Times magazine.
He said that during his time at a boarding school as a boy in the
1950s, a teacher “pulled me on his knee and put his hand inside my
shorts.” Dawkins described the incident as “mild pedophilia” that left
him no worse off. Neither Dawkins nor the other boys abused by this
teacher suffered permanent physical or mental damage, he said.

“I don’t think he did any of us lasting harm,” said Dawkins.

Dawkins also said that it was improper to judge the acts committed by this teacher by today’s higher moral standards.

“I am very conscious that you can’t condemn people of an earlier era
by the standards of ours,” he said. “Just as we don’t look back at the
18th and 19th centuries and condemn people for racism in the same way as
we would condemn a modern person for racism, I look back a few decades
to my childhood and see things like caning, like mild pedophilia, and
can’t find it in me to condemn it by the same standards as I or anyone
would today.”

His perspective on sexual assault drew strong criticism from numerous
victims’ rights organizations, including Peter Watt, director of child
protection at the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to
Children.

“Mr. Dawkins seems to think that because a crime was committed a long
time ago we should judge it in a different way,” said Watt, according to The Washington Post. “But we know that the victims of sexual abuse suffer the same effects whether it was 50 years ago or yesterday.”

No lasting harm? Is that why he turned out to be a rabid, God-hating atheist bent on convincing others to reject God?

And none of the others boys suffered lasting harm, either? How does he know? Does he know every victim? Has he followed all of them for the last 5 decades?

Today's higher moral standards? And his example is racism? Because being a racist is so much worse than openly embracing sodomy like our society today does.

Clearly, Dawkins is just going mild on his own depravity. After reading this, I have zero doubt that he himself is a pedophile. Openly accepting him and his like is next on the agenda of perverting humanity.

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Yes, absolutely. I have seen this in so many ways - our society is being "groomed" for the acceptance of pedophilia, and we don't even realize that it's happening. Whether it's the portrayal of younger and younger girls as sex objects (just look at any clothing store) or things like the Dawkins debate, this is the next sexual frontier. Sad.

um. Wow. I think that Mr. Dawkins needs some therapy. Because obviously what happened to him as a young boy did in fact impact and affect him. There is no such thing as "mild pedophilia" he pulled that term out of his fanny. You either are or are not a pedophile. There is no range like the hotness of salsa...there is no mild or medium. And it is just plain wrong. Both morally as well as legally.

I also think that Mr. Dawkins is trying to justify something in his head. Either he is trying to downplay the impact the incident actually had on him (you know, say it over and over and maybe you start to belive it..."meh, it didn't affect me. I'm FINE!") or he's trying to justify his own actions for something.

I'm so so glad you posted about Dawkins. That guy is lower than pond scum. He's arrogant and shallow and even if I wasn't theologically opposed to him he's still horrible. Dawkins hopes there isn't a God because he knows he has darkness in his heart. I've heard him "debate" with scholarly theologians but this usually comprises of eyerolling and premises like "why don't we all just believe in fairies in the bottom of the garden" on his behalf. This leads to cheers from the "educated" young people in the audience who are so green at life they'll love anyone with a catchphrase. I don't think he's read the Bible, occasionally makes references to the OT which are out of context eg Leviticus 19:19. He won't debate anyone with actual academic rigour and has turned down several opportunities to talk to notable academics and Christian apologists. He then lambasts them cowardly on his blog to which they can't reply. His attitude towards women is deplorable (the elevator incident) but says the Bible is sexist. Thinks its fine to be an unrepenting homosexual or pedophile! But wait, it's the Bible that is wrong/oppresive/violent and makes claims that God is morally flawed! How does that work?Isaiah 5:20 ring any bells? Oh how I could go on! I will try to pray for the man but gee, it is hard. He is a terrible influence on youth but I pray they will see it is evil garbage. Thanks for the post Zsu but this is no good for my blood pressure :D

This is sick. When you accept homosexuality there is not much you won't accept I guess, it just keeps getting sicker. Here is an article I read a while ago on the subject accepting pedophilia as a sexual orientation like homosexuality.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pedophilia-a-sexual-orientation-experts-tell-parliament/ This is the kinda garbage they say about it. Quoted from that article :

“Pedophiles are not simply people who commit a small offence from time to time but rather are grappling with what is equivalent to a sexual orientation just like another individual may be grappling with heterosexuality or even homosexuality,” emphasized Van Gijseghem.

“True pedophiles have an exclusive preference for children, which is the same as having a sexual orientation. You cannot change this person’s sexual orientation.” He added, however: “He may however remain abstinent.”

This man is crazy in his thinking. Yes, it was a different time, but it was sexual abuse just the same as it is today. Three of my sisters and I were all sexually assaulted by a swim coach, along with a lot of other girls on the team. Although there was no penetration it was sexual assault and he did end up in prison. This was in the early 1960's. It did affect us all. Two of my sisters are drug/alcohol addicts who have had their children removed and given o other family members. One sister and I jut learned how to turn it off and pretend it didn't happen. She by having sex with any man that comes along always looking for Mr. Right and sitting in church every Sunday. Me, I turned to an obsession with higher education and going to university for too many degrees and a lot of alphabet soup behind my name.

I do want to say that the majority of pedophiles are not gay/lesbian. They are men trying to live a straight life, often with families. I am the proud mother of a gay son, and he's a fine upstanding citizen who graduated from university and has a successful career. If you met him in person your gaydar would not raise and you would be shocked to learn he is gay, just as you would if you were to meet any of his friends. The majority of them attend services at St. Marks Episcopal church on Sunday evening, and they are a joy to be with. I refuse to disown my son for being as God created him. I enjoy your blog tremendously, and I know we disagree harshly on this subject.

No lasting harm? Besides the points you made, the fact that he remembers this incident tells me it was significant in his life. What percentage of a person's childhood does someone actually remember? It is very little. This had more of an impact than he realizes, let alone the fact that it has warped his mind...

Further, normalizing this of course makes me wonder at what point pedophila is actually wrong in his mind? There is no way this teacher actually stopped at this behavior. That might have been all he did to Dawkins but I'm sure his acts grew much worse as he had no consequences for his sick actions. The world wants to make everything grey these days, no wonder they hate God and the Bible.

You can accept homosexuality without accepting pedophiles. I know of no one who is accepting of same sex relationships, (either as a straight person or in one themselves) who thinks that violating a child in that way is normal, or does not carry lasting damaging effects to the child.

Despite his strong following as far as his beliefs about the origin of life and the world go, he does not have the same backing for this comment. And again, you can be an Atheist without thinking pedophilia is ok.

Disagree with him, absolutely, but do not let this unfortunate example stand for all Atheists or homosexual/homosexual supporters out there, it is a huge leap between a lack of belief in god and believing children are sexual objects.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Are you saying that it's okay to embrace sodomy privately?

What happens if one of your sons comes to you and says he is gay? I know you would show him and read to him what the bible says. They probably already know what it says about homos. What if they have the feelings though and admit it to you?

Sorry to all above defending homosexuals but there are are a lot of homosexual pedophiles and A lot of homosexuals are predators. This is an inconvenient fact for those pushing the gay agenda. In fact NAMBLA was welcome at gay parades until only recently, and only renounced by tbe community as a PR move. Also whether you can accept it or not the pedophiles at Dawkin's school were gay or same sex pedophiles! Gay culture is largely youth oriented and yes, that means pushing frontiers of the age of consent! Some have lobbied for it actively and rabidly. Sorry but to say theree are less gay predators than straight ones is a major fallacy pushed by the gay agenda.

Thankfully the atheist community is by and large condemning what he said. I don't think anyone is celebrating his statements or pedophilia. Consent matters to secular people, arguably more than it does to most Christians.

ive disagreed with you on things and still do and will probably do........but i agree with this. my first thought when i saw this a week or so ago was, Theres no such thing as "mild pedophilia". one incident doesn't have to ruin a persons life, especially if it were small, and some people may not think about it very much........but, even so, that doesn't make it right what that man did. the fact that NAMBLA could even exist grosses me out very much. do i want to get to the level concerning homosexuality that i want to put tires over a persons head and light them on fire like i saw a guy post on your husbands facebook page?-NO!! i tend to have more compassion naturally than that, wanting multiple chances for all people to change. but, pedophilia grosses me out....:(

When society starts to accept one form of sexual depravity eventually it will all become acceptable. Everyone doing what's right in their own eyes. Homosexuality is just as sick and depraved as pedophilia, incest and bestiality.

Incest and polygamy are consensual, too - that doesn't make it normal.

Besides, being a homo is one manifestation of abuse or early childhood exposure to s**, and therefore the result of abuse. People are groomed and recruited into being a homo, much as predators groom those in their care into "consensual" relationships.

If an adult brother and sister began a consensual sexual relationship would you say it's ok because they are consenting? It's not stupid at all to compare one form of sexual depravity with another. It's all perversion.

I am sorry but your use of the word "homo " is offensive....along with your idea that people become gay by being groomed for it. If this is what being taught in your church/home then I am sorry for your family and congregation .....absolute ignorance.....

School, work, every where I go is the immoral acts of men with men, and women with women in intimate contact; publically. Now all (believe in Jesus or not believe in Jesus) , saying all people know within that this is absolutely wrong. God created our bodies of us female/ male for one purpose which is the beauty of life, which is for good. Corrupt acts of such is evilness. Truth is it is wrong. This is all of the choose of men/ women to corrupt their own bodies in vile ways. :( rosita

I recently caught my husband looking at children on the computer, I know this post is late but what do I do? Lawyer told me I do not have sufficient. Evidence for jail time also my Pastor counseled us on it and says I should "forgive him " but he acts weird around the children sometimes I am shaky for bath times even though I always do it I can hardly sleep did I get bad advise? Help

Romans 127 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Unsaved people (who may lie and claim to be saved just as Judas did) who reject God again and again, while hearing and knowing the truth (such as from going to church, but not truly believing) will eventually be rejected by God in return. When He does, these people are given over to a reprobate mind, which is a prerequisite in order to even be capable of the unnatural sins that these people commit. It's not that they lost their salvation, they were never saved to begin with, because they never truly believed, only carried on an act. These are the wolves in sheep's clothing the Bible warns against. They like going to church because it is a trusting environment, with lots of easy victims. They like going to church to bring shame to the cause of Christ and lead others astray.

To explain it better, all of us are sinners. We all have a tendency to want to commit "natural" sins, such as lying, stealing, lusting, committing immoral acts, or even wanting to kill another person. This of course is wrong - it is in our sin nature. However, certain sins are NOT part of the natural sin nature. Lusting after someone of the same gender, children, animals, and other depraved acts are AGAINST nature, as the Bible makes clear. So while I might have to make a concerted effort not to tell a lie, or a man may have to avert his eyes when he sees a woman he finds attractive in order not to lust, no normal person has to avert their eyes from a child, or someone of the same gender, to avoid lusting after them. It goes against every natural tendency. The only people who lack these natural instincts are reprobates, those who have been given over by God to have the heart and mind of an animal.

If your husband is looking at child porn, he is a reprobate. Many pastors these days who preach only sweetness and light, and only the loving side of God, balk at this concept, but I challenge you to read the Bible on this subject. Also, here are just a few sermons dealing with this topic:

There is no way to "fix" your husband. He will continue down this path, only becoming more vile and dangerous. Hopefully, he will be caught and locked up before he defiles children in the flesh, rather than just looking at images of poor children already having been abused.

We are 100% against divorce, as well as remarriage (unless your husband is dead). This is why God instituted the death penalty for reprobates - so you could pick up and carry on with your life as best as you could given the circumstances. Since this is not an option under the laws of our land, you are bound by the law in marriage until he dies.

However, since preventing serious physical harm (such as sexual abuse of your children) is a major priority, I advise you to get yourself and your children out of harms way, and legally separate from your husband. Being married to a confirmed reprobate is the ONLY condition under which I believe this to be the lesser of two bad options (separation vs. endangering your children). Certainly, there will be harm done no matter which of the two options you choose, as children are intended to be raised by a godly father AND mother, but like I said, it's the lesser of the two evils. Again, if he were NOT a reprobate, I would never advise this. You are not free to remarry unless he dies, however.

It is unfortunate that the law will not lock him up, hopefully they will find enough evidence against him to do so.

Your pastor is wrong to expect you to forgive something that God himself will not forgive. He must be ignorant of the fact that God does NOT forgive everyone, indefinitely. People in hell are past the point of forgiveness. People who blaspheme against the Holy Ghost have no forgiveness. Your husband has crossed the line of no return. He should be dead, but isn't, because our society knows better than God.

You and your children are the victims in all of this. Your main priorities should be to protect yourself and them from certain bodily harm, and try to serve God and raise your children for Him to the best of your abilities in spite of this tragedy.

Anon above, I recommend taking the computer your husband uses to a police station. They can look at what he's been looking at and decide whether or not to lay charges. This may help in your divorce too.

Also, leave. Don't tell him why. Just go, go, go. You'll be fine. And don't listen to any lies he will eventually tell you... such as "I was doing research work", "I was working for the police", "I was curious" "I was stressed out" "I was sick but now I'm well again" etc etc.

Sad to say but someone close to me ended up having an "interesting" history that I wouldn't have known if one of his family members hadn't told me. I cut all ties, I advise you do the same.

I agree with you - the police should be able to retrieve enough evidence from the computer. If he pulled up any images on it, it is impossible to permanently and complete erase them, even if they seem to have been deleted. The harddrive can be "drilled" with soft ware that brings up anything that has ever been downloaded or even viewed on the computer. It sounded to me, too, like the lawyer was ignorant or useless.

Anon above ^. If you come back to this post, please leave a sentence or two just to let us know how you are. I certainly did pray for you. I know how disappointing/disheartening this is. You are not alone, there are plenty of women who have been in your position, we just don't talk about it in polite company! Use your Bible like a sword when times are tough. Hebrews 4:12! Anyway, hope you stayed strong and left. Blessings, your anonymous friend.

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