WilliamL wrote:"If we are not a little bit uncomfortable everyday,we are not growing. All the good stuff is outside our comfort zone"-Jack Canfield

This quote really inspired me.Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, ambition inspired, and success achieved.Hard work is the key to success. A happy childhood isn’t always the best preparation for a successful and enjoyable adult life.

Let us not throw the baby out with the bathwater, Jack Canfield. Some of that good stuff is still within our comfort zone.

But I realize what he meant.

“How can a bird that is born for joySit in a cage and sing?” ― William Blake

Arcturus Descending wrote:Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not; remember that what you now have was once among the things you only hoped for.

- Epicurus

Yo Epi, but was it wrong to hope for it in the first place?? Maybe you wouldn't have had it if you dint desire it dude.

*You Epi* lol. You made a good point here I think. Perhaps Epicurus was speaking more about hedonism here ~ too much desiring, too much over-the-top hoping. When we focus too much on what we do not have, we lose focus and the truth of what we do already have.

I do not think that hoping for something is necessarily wrong unless we are wasting time and energy on something which we, on some level, know that we can never have but we choose to ignore the truth of it.

But I do intuit that there is such a thing as too much hope and not enough *going after*...

I think that Epi was basically talking about balance here...the epicurean as opposed to the hedonist...the fine balance of *enjoying* perhaps something *lesser* but good now as opposed to craving *it all* and not appreciating THIS moment.

“How can a bird that is born for joySit in a cage and sing?” ― William Blake

I cleave the heavens and soar to the infinite.And while I rise from my own globe to othersAnd penetrate ever further through the eternal field,That which others saw from afar, I leave far behind me.- Giordano Bruno

RaptorWizard - Secret Garden of Rare Quotes - viewtopic.php?f=1&t=194124The value of a novel is not that it is real or will ever happen but rather it represents reality in an architectural model of how it could be or should be. Similarly, when theoretical physicists dream of a utopian golden age of scientific discovery where humans have evolved to the point of mastering hyperspace and bending the universe to their will, the value of it is not that logical calculations indicate humans are too insignificant for this to be our destiny, but rather the value is in the theory itself of creating a vastly unprecedented and advanced society, the architectural model of how humanity could evolve and what humanity should achieve. Achieving this in the imagination, the world of the mind would be the focus that could manifest itself into a better reality. The value is in the journey of humans becoming the lords of creation rather than the destination.

"A fire broke out backstage in a theatre. The clown came out to warn the public; they thought it was a joke and applauded. He repeated it; the acclaim was even greater. I think that's just how the world will come to an end: to general applause from wits who believe it's a joke." - Kierkegaard

promethean75 wrote:"A fire broke out backstage in a theatre. The clown came out to warn the public; they thought it was a joke and applauded. He repeated it; the acclaim was even greater. I think that's just how the world will come to an end: to general applause from wits who believe it's a joke." - Kierkegaard