disgruntledgamer:This game is getting criticized on other sites for being the same as the 1st Black and white. Not that it matters IMO you just use Water on Fire, Fire on Grass and Grass on Water and call it strategy. Sorry but Rack, Paper, Scissors strategy is not hard to master unless you're 12 or touched in the head. Using whatever the other person is weak against isn't hard to figure out.

But you get a strategy when you can choose from a giant roster of Pokes, all with different combinations of types (electro/bug, fire/fight, fire/bug and so on), all with several possible movesets and different stat and EV spreads (aka different speed, attack strength, defensive strength) and items. If you have to build a team of 6 where each one has to hold a purpose and you have to be able to be able to beat all kind of builds you build yourself up a strategy.

There is so much more to this game than just "rock, paper, scissors".

Nope sorry you're wrong even when you pick your roster your still using the same Rock, Paper, Scissors strategy, your just hoping yours matches his nicely which is luck, yes you could play it safe and pick a broad roster but it still boils down to using whatever the other person is weak against which is the simplest type of strategy to the point where most wouldn't even consider it strategy.

The single player aspect of the game is entirely beatable with "rock paper scissor" strategy. It is easily beatable without any strategy. Go into any sort of competitive environment with that as you're only aim and you're not going to have a good time.

The single player aspect of the game is entirely beatable with "rock paper scissor" strategy. It is easily beatable without any strategy. Go into any sort of competitive environment with that as you're only aim and you're not going to have a good time.

I dunno if you like to do this so if you do just ignore me.

BUT if these kind of people annoy you I would suggest not trying to debate with folks who have an agenda. Their name is literally "disgruntled" and they are being hyperbolic, I'd save your time <.<.

Plenty of valid complaints about Pokemon to be had, if they can't be bothered to pick ANY of them then others shouldn't need to explain it to them.

Nope sorry you're wrong even when you pick your roster your still using the same Rock, Paper, Scissors strategy, your just hoping yours matches his nicely which is luck, yes you could play it safe and pick a broad roster but it still boils down to using whatever the other person is weak against which is the simplest type of strategy to the point where most wouldn't even consider it strategy.

This is applieable to every game that has SP. While you can apply tactic or strategy it can also be simply "bumrushed", overrun the enemy by building more shit or just hardcounter his setup. Because the AI sucks (always) and is only capable of countering your decisions if the game limits you. On the other hand, if the designer apply limitations to the AI (like themed Gyms) they fuck any kind of strategy you might want to use and let you roll with "Excadrill pracitcally dominates everything the game throws at you. Always". Though there is no ground to discuss the reasoning behind those limitations: The Pokemon SP is basically just aimed at kids - it is obvious since they 'hide' everything that makes the game complex from any viewer who does not want to start with this things.

Give me any game you might find "oh so strategic" where you play against AI and I find you the easiest way to exploit weaknesses of the AI and limitations set up by developers.

But since we are talking about strategic possibilietes we should include the only area where different strategies and decisions actually do count: Multiplayer.

Sargent Hoofbeat:Anyway; off track. If we think "Oh, I'll be OK with just the starter pokemon" then that's all we'll get. Where as ALL THE POKEMON, everyone can choose. Think of someone else for a change!

As if the poster has any direct control over which it ends up being...?

OT: Dunno if this is worth buying since I already have Black, but it sounds like it has enough for those who haven't come to the current generation yet.

Sargent Hoofbeat:Anyway; off track. If we think "Oh, I'll be OK with just the starter pokemon" then that's all we'll get. Where as ALL THE POKEMON, everyone can choose. Think of someone else for a change!

As if the poster has any direct control over which it ends up being...?

OT: Dunno if this is worth buying since I already have Black, but it sounds like it has enough for those who haven't come to the current generation yet.

>Forgetting Mass Effect 3 fiasco

When anon is loud enough...

>Implying that Pokemon isn't digital crack and you must have all the games.

I've decided this game I'm going to EV train... Its gonna hurt so much

Anything less will incur all of my fan boy rage... and based on the fandoms I'm in I apparantly have a lot

The Gen 5 starters are fine, the weakest design out of them is the Tepig line. And personally, i'd love a Samurott following me, a Sea Lion with swords...what's so wrong about that? ;D

We all know Gen II has the best starting pokemon

Ok, well, I know. I had a Feraligatr, and it was the pokemon game I brainwashed myself on. I named him "Todonumega lord".

Anyway; off track. If we think "Oh, I'll be OK with just the starter pokemon" then that's all we'll get. Where as ALL THE POKEMON, everyone can choose. Think of someone else for a change!

god no, gen 4 of fact that the whole gen was a awesome but broken mess of super powered pokemon almost all of the pokemon in that regieon you could play and do good-to-awesome with with ,and that fact that infernape ended up being insanely powerful, aswell as grass starter in its own right

chozo_hybrid:I'm glad to see they are starting to make use of the systems graphical capabilities, aside from Stadium etc is this the first main Pokemon game to have 3d graphics in it? I'm curious, I don't play them but I used to, from red up to silver.

Diamond and Pearl had 3D stuff in them, progressively more of it as the games have gone on.

Sargent Hoofbeat:Anyway; off track. If we think "Oh, I'll be OK with just the starter pokemon" then that's all we'll get. Where as ALL THE POKEMON, everyone can choose. Think of someone else for a change!

As if the poster has any direct control over which it ends up being...?

OT: Dunno if this is worth buying since I already have Black, but it sounds like it has enough for those who haven't come to the current generation yet.

>Forgetting Mass Effect 3 fiasco

When anon is loud enough...

>Forgetting that it wasn't one poster who directly influenced that, but a multitude of posters protesting that it be done...