Why would such a room as a "library" be on a future spaceship? Do cruise ships or freighters have libraries today? Instead, make it a conference room for the various department heads or scientists to get together to discuss things. It could double as a reading room if one is desired, but the regular staterooms could suffice for that.

GamingGlen wrote:Why would such a room as a "library" be on a future spaceship?

Library (TL8)
A library room contains computer files as well as lecterns, display screens, holotanks and perhaps even hard copies of books. A good library is useful for both research and passing time in jump space.

Having a library on board a ship grants DM+1 on any EDU check made when training for new skills in jump space or other periods of extended inactivity.

GamingGlen wrote:Why would such a room as a "library" be on a future spaceship?

Library (TL8)
A library room contains computer files as well as lecterns, display screens, holotanks and perhaps even hard copies of books. A good library is useful for both research and passing time in jump space.

Having a library on board a ship grants DM+1 on any EDU check made when training for new skills in jump space or other periods of extended inactivity.

Yeah yeah, I read that blurb. Still doesn't make it a good idea for ships tight on space.

"computer files"? Really? We have very few large rooms of tape drives remaining as in the 60s. Display screens can be in any wall. And from some stuff I've seen you could roll it up and plaster it against any wall you want. And that's with our tech today. Books will be relics, a few treasured items among a person's belongings. Kindle has shown the future of reading.

"So the Increased Size disadvantage (and the Early Prototype modifier) can also increase the number of crew needed. Requiring more power (Energy Inefficient disadvantage) would also require a larger power plant, which may also require a larger crew."

I like that. Next time I take a trip up to the Highport I'll have to take the tour of the prototype jump 1 ship they have at the shipyard museum. (and for the heck of it, might have to design it too.)

The idea of including the Library was discussed earlier on this thread where I considered what its function would be and

"Hmmm. Then again, it's not a traditional bookshelf library but a place for resources for the team to reference data as well as tools to collect information for analysis and storage. Could have presentation equipment such as holographic projectors the team can gather around and conference. Good compliment to research laboratories on a ship."

Reynard wrote:I'm not sure if there is a Disadvantage for engines needing more crew.

There is, at least indirectly. The number of crew needed depends on the size of the drive/plant. So the Increased Size disadvantage (and the Early Prototype modifier) can also increase the number of crew needed. Requiring more power (Energy Inefficient disadvantage) would also require a larger power plant, which may also require a larger crew. . . .

For small ships, aren't the engineering sections small enough that only one engineer were required. Even if so, maybe early prototypes require more specialization, so that each system requires at least one engineer.

According to HG2e both commercial and military vessels need 1 engineer per 35 tons of drives BUT "Spacecraft in the hands of small-time traders or adventurers usually run with the barest minimum of crew, with personnel often fulfilling more than one role as situations demand." Yeah, they take chances.

So far I've been concentrating on the very early designs for jump 1 ships. The time period can last decades to a few centuries before the advent of jump 2 at TL 11. Within that time TL 10 science and technology adds a few advances to spacecraft and starships. Naturally the development of 2g maneuver will have everyone happy with all that speed and time saving.

The military will rejoice at the resiliency of Crystaliron hulls while sensors take a boost. Add a pat on the back to the scientist that introduce the accuracy advantage with beam lasers which ties well with Point Defense Type I batteries. At this time the first concept of a spinal mount emerges with the railgun dawning the age of devastating capital ships.

The Mail Distribution Array makes efficient interstellar communication possible with purpose built postal service. With fewer large population worlds, the system would have ships more independent and robust compared to the later X-boat so they can cover sparse routes. It would still be attempting to service important route then having secondary means for reaching less populated area such as the Early Traders.

Security cutters and patrol vessels will benefit from the newly developed Shallow Penetration Suite for observing the interior of ships remotely. Troop transports acting as mobile interstellar security bases will benefit from the Training facility keeping soldiers in top condition between the stars.

I'm sure the spaceways will become gaudy billboards by commercial ventures when they realize the potential of the Holographic Hull.

Depending how you interpret ship design and primitive starship sequence, the smallest early prototype jump drive is either ten or fifteen tonnes, depending on whether the five tonne overhead is doubled in size or not.

Condottiere wrote:Depending how you interpret ship design and primitive starship sequence, the smallest early prototype jump drive is either ten or fifteen tonnes, depending on whether the five tonne overhead is doubled in size or not.

The minimum basic size is 10 dT, an Early Prototype is doubled to 20 dT.

I would think a realistic Disadvantage for software would be a negative DM considering the complexity of coding. On the same note, is there a reason we don't see software listed with Advantages or Disadvantages?

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BTW, for a one-shot, good-for-a-con, scenario involving the first jump made by humans I had designed one early prototype, at least generally with HG1.
I was going to have a couple of the pre-gen characters desiring to sabotage the effort, for examples: a religious nutcase thinking the jump portal will open up Hell, another thinking it's a waste of money and one set back will have the government not fund the project any more.

I'm still waiting for my hard copy of HG2; seems like Alliance distribution still lists it as a pre-order. *sigh*