As you know, E-50 designed by Argus, Auto Union and Adler. But sometimes I see information about Daimler-Benz involved in this project. Probably has its roots version of the rear transmission on E-50, if we remeber their VK3002(DB). Does anyone have any information about E-50(DB)?

steben

08-17-2011, 04:14 AM

As you know, E-50 designed by Argus, Auto Union and Adler. But sometimes I see information about Daimler-Benz involved in this project. Probably has its roots version of the rear transmission on E-50, if we remeber their VK3002(DB). Does anyone have any information about E-50(DB)?

Many projects and armor were eventually developed in partnership between multiple manufacturers.
Henschel, Porsche, MAN, MIAG, Daimler, Rheinmetall, Krupp, Krauss, ... all were important production factors.
In this case, I can't really help in detail, but you must take in consideration a different firm didn't mean a different design.

Nickdfresh, I knew that E-50 had a hull from "King Tiger" with minor changes. But Daimler-Benz involved in this project too and "Indienpanzer", probably, evolution of "E-50(DB)".
And once I saw a reference to the "Argentina-panzer". Maybe it's fiction. But I was extremely interested. However, new information I wasn't found. The possibility of such tank should not exclude - Germany and Argentina had a close relationship.

steben, Nickdfresh, KW30 served as an early prototype for Leopard. Has been developed in Switzerland(?) because of the restrictions after the WW2.

this i got from wiki,.
The ARL 44 was a French heavy tank produced just after World War II. Only sixty of these tanks were ever manufactured[1] and the type was quickly phased out.
The Encyclopedia of Tanks and Armored Fighting Vehicles: From World War I to the Present Day - stated about the same,.

well it just happened,. after the war,. everyone build their own big tanks,. one way to another resembling Germans WW2 heavy tanks,. be it their own design or development from previous light or lighter tanks,.

spyder

01-14-2012, 12:20 AM

gumalangi, "designed" and "manufactured" - not the same :)
ARL-44 developed during the German occupation. And builded after, right.

gumalangi

01-14-2012, 04:45 AM

gumalangi, "designed" and "manufactured" - not the same :)
ARL-44 developed during the German occupation. And builded after, right.

it is true,..

However,.. this statement from page of Arl 44

A large and well-armed vehicle might still be useful, however obsolescent its individual parts were, especially as the British and Americans seemed to be behind Germany in heavy tank development, having no operational vehicles that could slug it out with a Tiger II

guess everyone took germans tanks as their basis to build their own :)

The M-47 of the Patton series wasn't really a "monster," is was considered an improved M-46/stopgap tank until the more mature, perfected M-48 series was available. The "monster" American tank meant to deal with the Soviet IS3 was the M103 tank. Made is small numbers, it suffered what the other monsters all seemed to suffer: chronic unreliability and the technical faults of straining transmissions and engines to move heavy pieces of equipment on the battlefield...