For a dozen years or so, I’ve been pointing out that Southern California appears to be filling up with immigrants from the former Warsaw Pact.

But it’s hard to find out much about them. The media aren’t too interested in them. They’re immigrants (yeah), but they’re white (not yeah), so that confuses and discourages the press: What line should we take on them? Are white immigrants bad or good?

And they aren’t particularly loquacious. My wife’s nephew played on a soccer team at the local park that was otherwise all Russian-speaking and the limit of his conversations with his furtive-looking teammates was roughly, “Hey, you, play over there.”

One interesting question I’ve seldom seen discussed is: how Jewish are these immigrants? They don’t look too Jewish, but they seem attracted to places like North Hollywood that aren’t far from large, wealthy Jewish communities. The U.S. long had special religious rules for Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe, but how do U.S. government officials decide who exactly is a Jew?

So, I’ve been interested in the coverage of the two Russian sisters who got tied up with the Farook Family and Friends in San Bernardino as a rare newspaper attempt to find out something about some Warsaw Pact immigrants. From the L.A. Times:

who was charged with buying the rifles used in the massacre and for allegedly planning an earlier terrorist plot with Farook. Federal prosecutors allege Marquez’s union was a fraud and that he was paid $200 a month to marry Mariya.

Neither sister has been charged with a crime, and officials have made no indication that they knew about Farook and his wife’s plan to open fire at a holiday party in San Bernardino on Dec. 2, killing 14 people.

Documents and interviews trace the sisters’ journey to America, but it remains a mystery how they fell into Farook’s orbit and became so woven into the family.

The daughters of Anatolij and Valentina Chernykh came separately to the U.S. from Vysokiy, a village nearly 400 miles south of Moscow. Tatiana secured a short-term educational exchange visa and arrived in 2003, living at some point in Virginia.

Within two years, she married a man in Richmond.

But the couple separated after four years and she filed for dissolution in 2010. By then, she had moved to Southern California and mailed her husband the divorce papers, which were filed in a Pasadena courthouse. He never replied, according to court records.

Tatiana showed an enterprising streak and launched several businesses, including the kiosk at the Montebello mall, according to public records.

Among her employees was her younger sister, Mariya, who left Russia in the summer of 2009, also on a short-term exchange visa.

At the mall, Mariya found a romantic interest in Vram Kupelian, who worked in a nearby shop, he said in an interview. The relationship lasted more than a year, although her busy schedule allowed little time for leisure, he said.

“She pretty much spent seven days working at the mall,” Kupelian said.

Since the sisters’ parents lived in Israel, the prospect of living and working together gave the sisters a support system that life in Russia didn’t offer, he said.

So the Chernykhs were at least Jewish enough to move to Israel, although plenty of rabbis in Israel are not happy about all the vaguely Jewish Russians that Ariel Sharon invited in to help outnumber the Arabs. (Of course, Sharon himself wasn’t the most 100% Jewish looking guy in Israel.)

On her Russian social media account, Tatiana posted photos of trips the couple took together: to Lake Tahoe, Disneyland and Cancun.

She identified herself online as a businesswoman with a love of comedy films and reality TV shows, such as “The Real Housewives of Orange County.” In the space for “about me,” she wrote, “I [live] in the usa, just got engaged, living a happy life.”

When Tatiana and Raheel married in 2011, the two witnesses on their marriage license were his brother, Syed Rizwan Farook, and Marquez. …

While employed part time at a Riverside bank, Tatiana underwent fertility treatment, and she alleged that she lost her job because she went on medical leave, according to a lawsuit she filed in 2014. The case later was settled. …

At least two times since July, police were called to the home on reports of a dispute between Raheel and an unidentified woman, Corona police said. …

Tatiana, a state-licensed cosmetologist, once invited Adams over to show off the beauty salon she had in her garage, complete with purple walls and a professional hair dryer.

There, Adams recalled meeting Mariya, whom she described as quiet and more reserved. Tatiana chalked up her younger sister’s reticence to her limited English, Adams recalled.

Mariya crossed paths with Oscar Romero, who works at a flower wholesale business in downtown Los Angeles, according to records. The relationship blossomed, with Mariya using an online name to match her boyfriend’s: Maria Romero, according to an affidavit and an archived copy of the now-deleted profile.

In photos posted online — part of a social media presence that FBI investigators described in the affidavit — she and Romero posed in front of a Christmas tree and in nightclubs. The couple soon had a daughter together.

In a telephone interview with The Times earlier this month, Oscar Romero said he was the father of Mariya’s child but that their relationship had ended and he knew few details of her life.

“Like I said, she’s my baby’s mama. Whatever she does with her life,” he said, is her business.

He didn’t provide a date for their split, except that it happened before she married her husband, Marquez.

When Marquez and Mariya married in a mosque in 2014, the witnesses were her sister and Syed Raheel Farook, according to the marriage license. All four listed their address at Tatiana and Raheel’s Corona home.

But in the days after the shooting, according to a federal affidavit, Marquez said otherwise: He was approached by Raheel to marry Mariya, and in exchange, he would receive $200 a month, according to the affidavit.

The marriage was a ruse, he said, because Mariya had immigration issues and needed a green card, according to court records and federal sources.

While Marquez lived at his parents’ home — they knew nothing of the marriage — his wife continued to live with and date her ex-boyfriend, he told investigators, according to the affidavit.

“Date” has become a four-letter word.

Marquez and Mariya’s green card interview was scheduled for Dec. 3, the day after Syed Rizwan Farook and his wife attacked the Inland Regional Center. …

In online messages obtained by investigators, Marquez admitted to Mariya that he was “just a little anxious” and had prepared practice questions, according to the affidavit.

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An article I read in November about people fleeing North Korea described one such refugee (Hyeonseo Lee, the first name is strange in Korean and I remembered it) as having “dated” a Chinese policeman in order to avoid other, more negative attention from the law in that country.

I just went through those photos -- wonderful! In the last picture, Sharon looks like a typical European. He could be British. German. Slovakian. If you didn't know he was Jewish, would you have guessed it from the last photo? I doubt it.

I’ve met a few women from the lands of the former Soviet Union b/c they work at the Jersey and Delaware seashore resorts during the summer and then never go home. Some of them drift to the Philly burbs after summer is over.

That's what my wife did. Worked at a hotel on the Jersey Shore. Moved here in 2001. She put herself through Vaughn College (aviation) working at a gift shop on 5th Ave. She got a job at Lockheed as a contractor for FAA. Now she works at Port Authority.

Recent Russian immigrants with varying degrees of Jewish admixture remind me somewhat of the wave of Italian and Portuguese immigrants that came to Canada in the 70′s and 80′s. They tend to be very clannish and prefer to mainly deal with their co-ethnics. I’m partly of Ukrainian heritage myself, and I find that these “Warsaw Pact” immigrants will often really open up when I tell them that. Many of my genetic relatives from 23andme who hail from Eastern Europe and now live in the US or Canada have been really eager to contact me. I think assimilation will happen, but because of multicultural policies encouraging tribalism, it will take a few more generations to occur.

What strikes me as very unusual is that a Russian immigrant with family ties to Israel would hook up with a Pakistani Muslim. That deserves a closer investigation.

What strikes me as very unusual is that a Russian immigrant with family ties to Israel would hook up with a Pakistani Muslim. That deserves a closer investigation.

Yes, that is very odd. Either they're not really Jewish, or they're connected to Mossad. They owned and operated mall kiosks, which along with "art students" have been discovered to be fronts for Mossad:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7545.htm

Fox News has learned that one group of Israelis, spotted in North Carolina recently, is suspected of keeping an apartment in California to spy on a group of Arabs who the United States is also investigating for links to terrorism. Numerous classified documents obtained by Fox News indicate that even prior to September 11, as many as 140 other Israelis had been detained or arrested in a secretive and sprawling investigation into suspected espionage by Israelis in the United States.

Investigators from numerous government agencies are part of a working group that's been compiling evidence since the mid '90s. These documents detail hundreds of incidents in cities and towns across the country that investigators say, "may well be an organized intelligence gathering activity."

The first part of the investigation focuses on Israelis who say they are art students from the University of Jerusalem and Bazala Academy. They repeatedly made contact with U.S. government personnel, the report says, by saying they wanted to sell cheap art or handiwork.

Documents say they, "targeted and penetrated military bases." The DEA, FBI and dozens of government facilities, and even secret offices and unlisted private homes of law enforcement and intelligence personnel. The majority of those questioned, "stated they served in military intelligence, electronic surveillance intercept and or explosive ordinance units."

Another part of the investigation has resulted in the detention and arrests of dozens of Israelis at American mall kiosks, where they've been selling toys called Puzzle Car and Zoom Copter. Investigators suspect a front.

Shortly after The New York Times and Washington Post reported the Israeli detentions last months, the carts began vanishing. Zoom Copter's Web page says, "We are aware of the situation caused by thousands of mall carts being closed at the last minute. This in no way reflects the quality of the toy or its salability. The problem lies in the operators' business policies."

USA as flophouse/shopping mall. Ask a native white or black American in my home state where they live and they tell you, “Atlanta,” or “Dahlonega” or “Brunswick.” Americans are apt to express regional pride: the South, the Appalachians, out West.

But to immigrants it’s all one undifferentiated, AMERICA!, and they gravitate to wherever their patronage networks are or the green card-spouse, etc. and drift around from there. Never really settling in, adopting a consumerist, shallow, secular lifestyle. The perfect ciitizens for an all-grasping federal government and its mega-corp sponsors.

This is spot on. I was in an upscale mall near Bethesda, MD, this weekend. Maybe 20% of the patrons were white Americans; the rest were Indian/East Asians, in family groupings, and a smattering of Hispanics. Aside from the immediate observation that they were all (from the 3 year olds through the waddling mothers and fathers to the abuelas) monstrously unattractive, they were all obviously pretty well-off (other than the Hispanics, who appeared to be there to go to Target and Costco). My guess (based on the horrible clothes, lack of fluent English and poor grooming) was that the key demographic among the fathers was H1-B/former H1-B computer programmers making in the 90-150k range. In any case, despite the unpleasant feeling witnessing all of this gave me in the pit of my stomach, it was clearly giving the American consumer goods industry one hell of a shot in the arm (the place was absolutely buzzing, from GameStop to Nordstrom and Saks). It is experiences like this that tell you what you *really* need to know about the bi-partisan consensus on race replacement in America.

" Americans are apt to express regional pride: the South, the Appalachians, out West.

But to immigrants it’s all one undifferentiated, AMERICA!, and they gravitate to wherever"

You speak as if Good Americans consciously cultivate "regional pride" out of a sense of duty and nothing stops those vile immigrants from choosing to live rootless lives.

It's part of the larger delusion among some here that American virtues are all a matter of solemn choice, like eating your spinach. There are no inexorable forces pushing immigrants into Americanization. That's actually funny because, as any immigrant kid could tell you, parental attempts to keep their kids at least vaguely connected to their ancestral culture is the equivalent of forcing kids to eat spinach!

Someone(s) has been tinkering with US immigration policy since the 1960s to slant it in the direction of these floppers and shoppers in particular, and to the exclusion of other kinds of potential Americans.

"All grasping federal government" and "mega corp sponsors" strikes me as as metonymy: exactly WHO in these institutions--whether constituted by law or invented by corporate charter--has this influence?

There are power brokers and spin masters, those who benefit more or less, those whose visions are articulated and those whose visions (and concerns) are suppressed.

That is what needs to be mapped and articulated. These relations of power, these actual acts.

We've only gotten as far, as a republic, as having people like Mark Krikorian and Roy Beck pointing out that there *IS* a problem, despite the assertions of the propaganda masters.

Naming the problem is hard enough. Start naming names about who might benefit from this redefinition of the US and replacement of its founding stock, even in the spirit of formulating testable hypotheses, and the accusations of racism, anti-Semitism, xenophobia, Islamophobia, etc., come fast and furious.

Which is why, e.g., this crucial, rich, complex, and potentially explosive area of inquiry has not been taken up by tenured researchers sinecured in The Ed Biz. They have no problem, e.g., tracing out the evolution of telcoms consent decrees or "domestic abuse" law...or various Studies Studies topics, like the legitimacy of Fifty Shades as Art, or Lady Gaga's tweets to its fanbase.

The USA was an HBD experiment by a very gifted group of people FOR others with those gifts or capable of quickly emulating or developing them. The idea since 1965 that the US is a mercantile enterprise open to all tired poor huddled fleecable-for-profit comers arrived in my experience (Northeast metropolis, 1960s to 1980s) with Russian and other Jews in the big Jewish immigrations of the late 1800s--when they comprised a huge portion for several years of total immigrants.

What I call real Americans do have regional and ethnic pride, and a sense of roots. They do not perceive themselves as people in diaspora, but people seeking to re-establish those roots.

"Ask a native white or black American in my home state where they live and they tell you, “Atlanta,” or “Dahlonega” or “Brunswick.” Americans are apt to express regional pride: the South, the Appalachians, out West."

Actually, the PEOPLE I know, white, black, Hispanic, da Joos, who are citizens of the U.S. express their pride in a variety of ways, stating where they live, their backgrounds. You're being your typical obtuse self again.

"The perfect ciitizens for an all-grasping federal government and its mega-corp sponsors."**

Since 1607! In all seriousness, you really should trademark this line**. Perfect for your "replacement stock" zombies that seem to gravitate toward your insight.

Circassian is a group the Caucuses, from where we get Caucasian, which was chosen as the term for white people by an 18th cent German who wrote:

Caucasian variety—I have taken the name of this variety from Mount Caucasus, both because its neighborhood, and especially its southern slope, produces the most beautiful race of men, I mean the Georgian; and because all physiological reasons converge to this, that in that region, if anywhere, it seems we ought with the greatest probability to place the autochthones (original members) of mankind.

"Circassian" came to mean any white women from east europe or w/ fair features,
Though if memory serves originally they were reknown for the black curly locks, white skin and fair eyes- much like a beautiful fair (or 'pale' thesedays) scot or irish woman when they look good.

I don’t know what scam the sister’s parents used to get into Israel but all the clues point to the sisters have little or no Jewish origin. They are as Jewish as a ham sandwich.

Sharon’s looks have an explanation – his mother was a Subbotnik – these were Russian Christian peasants who spontaneously adopted Judaism on their own and were not (at least at first) accepted as Jews by the Jewish community. A lot of them went to Palestine and ironically they were much more religious than the Jewish Zionists, most of whom leaned toward socialism. The closest equivalent in the US would be the Black “Jews” like Michelle Obama’s cousin the “Rabbi”. Eventually the Subbotniks who went to Palestine blended into the regular Jewish community.

Possibly the sisters’ parents claimed Subbotnik ancestry as their ticket to Israel. The article says that they are from a village nearly 400 miles south of Moscow. That general area is where the Subbotniks were centered. This area is outside the Pale of Settlement (the portion of Poland annexed to Russia in the 18th century) where all the real Jews were originally located. Prior to that annexation, Russia had (other than the Subbotniks) very few Jews.

Earlier articles had the girls from Voronezh, which I assume is the local big town, in Russia, about 150 miles NE of Kharkiv (which is in the Eastern Ukraine). This would be about the furthest German advance into Russia in WW2 (for context: they made it about another 100-200 miles to the SE towards Volgograd (Stalingrad). I'm thinking Kursk was fought just about there.)

I agree that the girls do not look particularly Jewish, but I'm guessing they are dying their hair also. I think it's also true that to get to Israel there must have been some Jewish ancestry, however, my experience with Soviet Jews back in the day is that for the most part they were secular and frequently had non-Jewish spouses. I'm not sure what fraction of heritage is used: I've heard of immigrants from the former USSR having 1/4 German heritage getting into Germany, not sure what standard applies to Israel. It seems likely that one of the parents is "Jewish" by Russian ethnic category. Incidentally, the earlier Washington, DC marriage explains the Italian surname cited earlier for the eldest sister.

Also worth mentioning that this part of Russia, i.e., anything in the area south or north of Moscow and moving East is going to be still very ethnically diverse, not only Jews of various ethnic origins (e.g., Subbotniks, Circassians -- I actually knew a Circassian Jewish family in NYC 40 years ago who were thoroughly assimilated) but also the various Finno-Ugric tribes (Mordvin, Mari, etc.) who are going to be hard to tell from anyone else without some powerful "Slavdar." Remember the old saying, "Scratch a Russian, find a Tatar" -- think Charles Bronson -- the Russian Empire was very diverse.

Also, re: the article -- "Mariya crossed paths with Oscar Romero, who works at a flower wholesale business in downtown Los Angeles, according to records. The relationship blossomed -- that was lazy. Too bad it wasn't "nipped in the bud."

USA as flophouse/shopping mall. Ask a native white or black American in my home state where they live and they tell you, "Atlanta," or "Dahlonega" or "Brunswick." Americans are apt to express regional pride: the South, the Appalachians, out West.

But to immigrants it's all one undifferentiated, AMERICA!, and they gravitate to wherever their patronage networks are or the green card-spouse, etc. and drift around from there. Never really settling in, adopting a consumerist, shallow, secular lifestyle. The perfect ciitizens for an all-grasping federal government and its mega-corp sponsors.

The white or yellow ones seem to assimilate within a few generations. It’s a matter of what groups you can marry into.

"The white or yellow ones seem to assimilate within a few generations. It’s a matter of what groups you can marry into."

Assimilate in the sense of becoming indistinguishable by speech or mannerisms alone? Perhaps. But they bring their particular social capital to this country - the kind of social capital that allows them to work at mall kiosks, become garage beauticians, and run immigration grifts - and that stays. What really happens is that the country assimilates to them and becomes more like them.

Since we still have "Irish Americans", "Italian Americans", and "German Americans" I would say they never assimilate. You are American or not, nothing else goes in front of it. All immigration has been bad for the United States.

Those are just different transcriptions of the Cyrillic alphabet. "Anatoly" is what we are used to but in Cyrillic the last two letters would be an "i" and then a vowel shortening sound (represented by a separate letter, here "j".) In English we would represent both letters with just "y", e.g., "Dostoevsky" but, in German, "Dostojewskij".

Cyrillic also has a consonant hardening letter and a consonant softening letter, in English the "hard sign" is rarely represented but the "soft sign" is often represented as a "i" or a "y".

vaguely Jewish Russians that Ariel Sharon invited in to help outnumber the Arabs.

You keep repeating this. The mass immigration of non-Jewish Russians to Israel is a phenomenon that began in 1998, during the first Netanyahu administration (although some percentage of Russian immigrants had always been non-Jewish since the very beginning in the early 90s).

Also, Israelis don’t consider Sharon to have been foreign-looking. Rabin, on the other hand…but nobody has ever said anything about him having non-Jewish ancestry.

I don't know what scam the sister's parents used to get into Israel but all the clues point to the sisters have little or no Jewish origin. They are as Jewish as a ham sandwich.

Sharon's looks have an explanation - his mother was a Subbotnik - these were Russian Christian peasants who spontaneously adopted Judaism on their own and were not (at least at first) accepted as Jews by the Jewish community. A lot of them went to Palestine and ironically they were much more religious than the Jewish Zionists, most of whom leaned toward socialism. The closest equivalent in the US would be the Black "Jews" like Michelle Obama's cousin the "Rabbi". Eventually the Subbotniks who went to Palestine blended into the regular Jewish community.

Possibly the sisters' parents claimed Subbotnik ancestry as their ticket to Israel. The article says that they are from a village nearly 400 miles south of Moscow. That general area is where the Subbotniks were centered. This area is outside the Pale of Settlement (the portion of Poland annexed to Russia in the 18th century) where all the real Jews were originally located. Prior to that annexation, Russia had (other than the Subbotniks) very few Jews.

Earlier articles had the girls from Voronezh, which I assume is the local big town, in Russia, about 150 miles NE of Kharkiv (which is in the Eastern Ukraine). This would be about the furthest German advance into Russia in WW2 (for context: they made it about another 100-200 miles to the SE towards Volgograd (Stalingrad). I’m thinking Kursk was fought just about there.)

I agree that the girls do not look particularly Jewish, but I’m guessing they are dying their hair also. I think it’s also true that to get to Israel there must have been some Jewish ancestry, however, my experience with Soviet Jews back in the day is that for the most part they were secular and frequently had non-Jewish spouses. I’m not sure what fraction of heritage is used: I’ve heard of immigrants from the former USSR having 1/4 German heritage getting into Germany, not sure what standard applies to Israel. It seems likely that one of the parents is “Jewish” by Russian ethnic category. Incidentally, the earlier Washington, DC marriage explains the Italian surname cited earlier for the eldest sister.

Also worth mentioning that this part of Russia, i.e., anything in the area south or north of Moscow and moving East is going to be still very ethnically diverse, not only Jews of various ethnic origins (e.g., Subbotniks, Circassians — I actually knew a Circassian Jewish family in NYC 40 years ago who were thoroughly assimilated) but also the various Finno-Ugric tribes (Mordvin, Mari, etc.) who are going to be hard to tell from anyone else without some powerful “Slavdar.” Remember the old saying, “Scratch a Russian, find a Tatar” — think Charles Bronson — the Russian Empire was very diverse.

Also, re: the article — “Mariya crossed paths with Oscar Romero, who works at a flower wholesale business in downtown Los Angeles, according to records. The relationship blossomed — that was lazy. Too bad it wasn’t “nipped in the bud.”

Voronezh was precisely the center of the Subbotnik movement. Hair dyed or not, the girls register zero on my Jewdar for actual Ashkenazi ancestry.

Since Jewish descent is matrilineal, as long as their maternal grandmother was Jewish (in turn had a Jewish mother) the rest doesn't matter, but I'm still voting for a Subbotnik claim.

Israel hasn't really looked that hard at the Soviet "Jews" - they figure that if you identify as Jewish that's one more for their team and anyway your kids will grow up as Zionists in a Jewish atmosphere, serve in the Israeli army, etc. so whatever residue of Christianity you had (e.g. posing under a Christmas tree) will fade away in a generation or two. Sharon is the ultimate example. Many Russian "Christians" are atheist anyway and having emigrated to Israel as supposed Jews are in no position to attend church or associate themselves with organized Christianity.

As I mentioned before, this area was part of historic (pre- Polish annexation) Russia and historically would not have had any Jews (other than Subbotniks) but of course in the Soviet period things got all mixed up.

One Jewish grandparent suffices for immigration to Israel, but it does not guarantee citizenship. The Orthodox rabbinate in Israel is empowered to decide who is actually a Jew, and the only quarter-Jews who would qualify would be those who had a maternal grandmother who at least at some point in her life had documented links to an approved (i.e. Orthodox) Jewish community.

“So the Chernykhs were at least Jewish enough to move to Israel, although plenty of rabbis in Israel are not happy about all the vaguely Jewish Russians that Ariel Sharon invited in to help outnumber the Arabs.”

I don’t know where Steve got the idea that bringing Jews from the former Soviet Union to Israel was some sort of personal project of Ariel Sharon. Sharon did not become prime minister until 2000/01. The immigrants came to Israel mostly during the 80s and 90s, under governments of both right and left. And bringing them in was not controversial among Jewish Israelis. The right, the Jewish left and the religious Zionists all wanted them. The Left, in particular, wanted them because the Russians are secular Ashkenazim (those of them who are Jewish). Unfortunately for the Left, the Russian immigrants, although they remain nonreligious and hostile to the ultra-Orthodox (“haredi”) parties, generally vote for right-of-center parties and have no sympathy for the Left’s Arab mascots and no use for the Left’s secular progressive ideology, which reminds them of communism. Perhaps the Left now regrets having brought in the Russians, but they’re stuck with them.

The haredi parties, as well as the haredi chief rabbinate, may have been unhappy about the Russian immigrants, but the haredim are not really Zionist parties in the first place, and represent only around 10% of the population.

Yeah, I too wondered about the phrase "my wife's nephew". Checking a dictionary, "nephew" means either (a) the son of one's brother or sister, or (b) the son of one's brother-in-law or sister-in-law. Here, (a) is a blood relative, and (b) is not (or not necessarily). So maybe Steve was thinking, "my nephew = nephew(a), my wife's nephew(a) = my nephew(b)".

Earlier articles had the girls from Voronezh, which I assume is the local big town, in Russia, about 150 miles NE of Kharkiv (which is in the Eastern Ukraine). This would be about the furthest German advance into Russia in WW2 (for context: they made it about another 100-200 miles to the SE towards Volgograd (Stalingrad). I'm thinking Kursk was fought just about there.)

I agree that the girls do not look particularly Jewish, but I'm guessing they are dying their hair also. I think it's also true that to get to Israel there must have been some Jewish ancestry, however, my experience with Soviet Jews back in the day is that for the most part they were secular and frequently had non-Jewish spouses. I'm not sure what fraction of heritage is used: I've heard of immigrants from the former USSR having 1/4 German heritage getting into Germany, not sure what standard applies to Israel. It seems likely that one of the parents is "Jewish" by Russian ethnic category. Incidentally, the earlier Washington, DC marriage explains the Italian surname cited earlier for the eldest sister.

Also worth mentioning that this part of Russia, i.e., anything in the area south or north of Moscow and moving East is going to be still very ethnically diverse, not only Jews of various ethnic origins (e.g., Subbotniks, Circassians -- I actually knew a Circassian Jewish family in NYC 40 years ago who were thoroughly assimilated) but also the various Finno-Ugric tribes (Mordvin, Mari, etc.) who are going to be hard to tell from anyone else without some powerful "Slavdar." Remember the old saying, "Scratch a Russian, find a Tatar" -- think Charles Bronson -- the Russian Empire was very diverse.

Also, re: the article -- "Mariya crossed paths with Oscar Romero, who works at a flower wholesale business in downtown Los Angeles, according to records. The relationship blossomed -- that was lazy. Too bad it wasn't "nipped in the bud."

If this town Vysokiy is the one in Voronezh Oblast, the oblast ethnic statistics from 2010 are here:

That sounds about right. Meanwhile, the large Mordvin and Mari concentrations (historically, anyway) should be right next door in the next province. Of course, they are down to a few hundred K now. Such is assimilation.

Earlier articles had the girls from Voronezh, which I assume is the local big town, in Russia, about 150 miles NE of Kharkiv (which is in the Eastern Ukraine). This would be about the furthest German advance into Russia in WW2 (for context: they made it about another 100-200 miles to the SE towards Volgograd (Stalingrad). I'm thinking Kursk was fought just about there.)

I agree that the girls do not look particularly Jewish, but I'm guessing they are dying their hair also. I think it's also true that to get to Israel there must have been some Jewish ancestry, however, my experience with Soviet Jews back in the day is that for the most part they were secular and frequently had non-Jewish spouses. I'm not sure what fraction of heritage is used: I've heard of immigrants from the former USSR having 1/4 German heritage getting into Germany, not sure what standard applies to Israel. It seems likely that one of the parents is "Jewish" by Russian ethnic category. Incidentally, the earlier Washington, DC marriage explains the Italian surname cited earlier for the eldest sister.

Also worth mentioning that this part of Russia, i.e., anything in the area south or north of Moscow and moving East is going to be still very ethnically diverse, not only Jews of various ethnic origins (e.g., Subbotniks, Circassians -- I actually knew a Circassian Jewish family in NYC 40 years ago who were thoroughly assimilated) but also the various Finno-Ugric tribes (Mordvin, Mari, etc.) who are going to be hard to tell from anyone else without some powerful "Slavdar." Remember the old saying, "Scratch a Russian, find a Tatar" -- think Charles Bronson -- the Russian Empire was very diverse.

Also, re: the article -- "Mariya crossed paths with Oscar Romero, who works at a flower wholesale business in downtown Los Angeles, according to records. The relationship blossomed -- that was lazy. Too bad it wasn't "nipped in the bud."

Voronezh was precisely the center of the Subbotnik movement. Hair dyed or not, the girls register zero on my Jewdar for actual Ashkenazi ancestry.

Since Jewish descent is matrilineal, as long as their maternal grandmother was Jewish (in turn had a Jewish mother) the rest doesn’t matter, but I’m still voting for a Subbotnik claim.

Israel hasn’t really looked that hard at the Soviet “Jews” – they figure that if you identify as Jewish that’s one more for their team and anyway your kids will grow up as Zionists in a Jewish atmosphere, serve in the Israeli army, etc. so whatever residue of Christianity you had (e.g. posing under a Christmas tree) will fade away in a generation or two. Sharon is the ultimate example. Many Russian “Christians” are atheist anyway and having emigrated to Israel as supposed Jews are in no position to attend church or associate themselves with organized Christianity.

As I mentioned before, this area was part of historic (pre- Polish annexation) Russia and historically would not have had any Jews (other than Subbotniks) but of course in the Soviet period things got all mixed up.

USA as flophouse/shopping mall. Ask a native white or black American in my home state where they live and they tell you, "Atlanta," or "Dahlonega" or "Brunswick." Americans are apt to express regional pride: the South, the Appalachians, out West.

But to immigrants it's all one undifferentiated, AMERICA!, and they gravitate to wherever their patronage networks are or the green card-spouse, etc. and drift around from there. Never really settling in, adopting a consumerist, shallow, secular lifestyle. The perfect ciitizens for an all-grasping federal government and its mega-corp sponsors.

This is spot on. I was in an upscale mall near Bethesda, MD, this weekend. Maybe 20% of the patrons were white Americans; the rest were Indian/East Asians, in family groupings, and a smattering of Hispanics. Aside from the immediate observation that they were all (from the 3 year olds through the waddling mothers and fathers to the abuelas) monstrously unattractive, they were all obviously pretty well-off (other than the Hispanics, who appeared to be there to go to Target and Costco). My guess (based on the horrible clothes, lack of fluent English and poor grooming) was that the key demographic among the fathers was H1-B/former H1-B computer programmers making in the 90-150k range. In any case, despite the unpleasant feeling witnessing all of this gave me in the pit of my stomach, it was clearly giving the American consumer goods industry one hell of a shot in the arm (the place was absolutely buzzing, from GameStop to Nordstrom and Saks). It is experiences like this that tell you what you *really* need to know about the bi-partisan consensus on race replacement in America.

This describes the mall near me pretty closely. Is it just mall culture? Tons of people from the Middle East and Eastern Europe, and yeah, they operate those kiosks down the center of the mall selling worthless junk. Do those kiosks actually make any money? I wonder if there'll be an expose on them some time as just scams to get money from the people opening them.

Interesting juxtaposition here in my white, Republican county in NoCal. I was called for jury duty and wound up in a hallway with about 95% white people. Only one black guy, and a handful of Asians/Hispanics. We're the registered voters, see. What a contrast to the mall just down the street! Whites vote and sit on juries, immigrants shop and run kiosks.

I was in an "outlet mall" in the Philadelphia suburbs and experienced the same thing - the crowd was maybe 80% non-white, mostly immigrant. Maybe these are the only people with any disposable income or maybe white people shop on the internet nowadays or already have most of the crap they need and have renounced materialism, but I'm sure that if all the immigrants disappeared tomorrow that mall would go broke in a matter of weeks. Then again, probably 90+% of the stuff they were selling in that mall was also imported. Perhaps someday they will figure out a way to sell made in Bangladesh clothes to Bangladeshis in Bangladesh so they won't have to go 7,000 miles in order to buy stuff made in their home country. Aside from the fat corporate profits that come from selling $10 Chinese sneakers for $100 once you put a "swoosh" on them, these malls do provide some minimum wage jobs for the cashiers and stock clerks, but that's about it.

Earlier articles had the girls from Voronezh, which I assume is the local big town, in Russia, about 150 miles NE of Kharkiv (which is in the Eastern Ukraine). This would be about the furthest German advance into Russia in WW2 (for context: they made it about another 100-200 miles to the SE towards Volgograd (Stalingrad). I'm thinking Kursk was fought just about there.)

I agree that the girls do not look particularly Jewish, but I'm guessing they are dying their hair also. I think it's also true that to get to Israel there must have been some Jewish ancestry, however, my experience with Soviet Jews back in the day is that for the most part they were secular and frequently had non-Jewish spouses. I'm not sure what fraction of heritage is used: I've heard of immigrants from the former USSR having 1/4 German heritage getting into Germany, not sure what standard applies to Israel. It seems likely that one of the parents is "Jewish" by Russian ethnic category. Incidentally, the earlier Washington, DC marriage explains the Italian surname cited earlier for the eldest sister.

Also worth mentioning that this part of Russia, i.e., anything in the area south or north of Moscow and moving East is going to be still very ethnically diverse, not only Jews of various ethnic origins (e.g., Subbotniks, Circassians -- I actually knew a Circassian Jewish family in NYC 40 years ago who were thoroughly assimilated) but also the various Finno-Ugric tribes (Mordvin, Mari, etc.) who are going to be hard to tell from anyone else without some powerful "Slavdar." Remember the old saying, "Scratch a Russian, find a Tatar" -- think Charles Bronson -- the Russian Empire was very diverse.

Also, re: the article -- "Mariya crossed paths with Oscar Romero, who works at a flower wholesale business in downtown Los Angeles, according to records. The relationship blossomed -- that was lazy. Too bad it wasn't "nipped in the bud."

Hold it, hold it. Charles Bronson was Lithuanian, not a tatar. The Baltic region was too far north for the Tatars who generally resided much further south, toward the Crimea area, Mongolia, etc.

No, Charles Bronson was Lipka Tatar, who lived in Lithuania. Kind of like saying that Buddy Ebsen was half Latvian, because his mother was from there. But her name was Wendt, in other words, German settlers (which, sure enough, was his first language.)

The Baltic region was too far north for the Tatars who generally resided much further south, toward the Crimea area, Mongolia, etc.

Some Tatars have lived in the Baltic area for centuries. In the 1600s, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth extended from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea.

Here's an excerpt from the Wikipedia article about the Lipka Tatars:

Today there are about 10,000-15,000 Lipka Tatars in the former areas of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth. The majority of descendants of Tatar families in Poland can trace their descent from the nobles of the early Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth.

Lipka Tatars had settlements in north-east Poland, Belarus, Lithuania, south-east Latvia and Ukraine. Today most reside in Poland, Lithuania and Belarus. Most of the Lipka Tatars (80%) assimilated into the ranks of the nobility in the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth while some lower noble Tatars assimilated to the Belarusian, Polish, Ukrainian and Lithuanian townsfolk and peasant populations.

Charles Bronson is part Tatar on his mother's side. She was descendant of Tatar's that stayed in Lithuania & converted. Were famous cavalry soldiers for the Poland/Lithuania kingdom against Russia. Golden Hordes got farther than most realize, sacked Kiev. Almost got to to Novgorod.

Voronezh was precisely the center of the Subbotnik movement. Hair dyed or not, the girls register zero on my Jewdar for actual Ashkenazi ancestry.

Since Jewish descent is matrilineal, as long as their maternal grandmother was Jewish (in turn had a Jewish mother) the rest doesn't matter, but I'm still voting for a Subbotnik claim.

Israel hasn't really looked that hard at the Soviet "Jews" - they figure that if you identify as Jewish that's one more for their team and anyway your kids will grow up as Zionists in a Jewish atmosphere, serve in the Israeli army, etc. so whatever residue of Christianity you had (e.g. posing under a Christmas tree) will fade away in a generation or two. Sharon is the ultimate example. Many Russian "Christians" are atheist anyway and having emigrated to Israel as supposed Jews are in no position to attend church or associate themselves with organized Christianity.

As I mentioned before, this area was part of historic (pre- Polish annexation) Russia and historically would not have had any Jews (other than Subbotniks) but of course in the Soviet period things got all mixed up.

Vysokii was indeed one of the two most famous exclusive subbotnik villages in Russia, along with the neighbouring Ilinka.

“At his peak an acquaintance remembers seeing Halabi in the south of France on a luxury yacht owned by his friend and fellow property tycoon Vincent Tchenguiz.

Tchenguiz received a phone call to say the Sunday Times Rich List had come out and he was 337th on the list. The acquaintance said: ‘Someone then shouted out, “Where am I?” and he was told, “31st, Simon.” That was Halabi.

‘Then another voice shouted out, ‘Where am I ?’ and they were told, “10th, David.” That was David Reuben, the London property developer.

‘A third voice asked: “Where have they put me?” and they were told, “9th, Philip.” That was Philip Green, the Topshop tycoon whose fortune was then estimated at £4.33bn.’”

Voronezh was precisely the center of the Subbotnik movement. Hair dyed or not, the girls register zero on my Jewdar for actual Ashkenazi ancestry.

Since Jewish descent is matrilineal, as long as their maternal grandmother was Jewish (in turn had a Jewish mother) the rest doesn't matter, but I'm still voting for a Subbotnik claim.

Israel hasn't really looked that hard at the Soviet "Jews" - they figure that if you identify as Jewish that's one more for their team and anyway your kids will grow up as Zionists in a Jewish atmosphere, serve in the Israeli army, etc. so whatever residue of Christianity you had (e.g. posing under a Christmas tree) will fade away in a generation or two. Sharon is the ultimate example. Many Russian "Christians" are atheist anyway and having emigrated to Israel as supposed Jews are in no position to attend church or associate themselves with organized Christianity.

As I mentioned before, this area was part of historic (pre- Polish annexation) Russia and historically would not have had any Jews (other than Subbotniks) but of course in the Soviet period things got all mixed up.

I agree that the girls do not look like Ashkenazim, and it would be unlikely because of the Pale of Settlement. But you know, the centennial of the Revolution is coming up next year ……

Their identity seems to be rather fluid depending on whatever door they want opened. It doesn’t seem as if they actually care much about ethnic-religious-racial identity and just hook up with those who seem compatible on a personal basis, entering the ranks of the masses of mixed-meat people of the US. I wouldn’t call them gold-diggers though since the men they got involved with were rather low in status and money nor were they very good-looking men. Just some floaters like millions of others.

The white or yellow ones seem to assimilate within a few generations. It's a matter of what groups you can marry into.

“The white or yellow ones seem to assimilate within a few generations. It’s a matter of what groups you can marry into.”

Assimilate in the sense of becoming indistinguishable by speech or mannerisms alone? Perhaps. But they bring their particular social capital to this country – the kind of social capital that allows them to work at mall kiosks, become garage beauticians, and run immigration grifts – and that stays. What really happens is that the country assimilates to them and becomes more like them.

speaking of such, I always thought the funniest fact about Nietzsche was that he really wanted to be descended from Polish Nobleman so he just sort of convinced himself he was and went about as though that were the seat of his descent. Second funniest, which took some time to finally understand, was that there are not a few places, I think Ecce Homo most, where the consensus eventually had to admit that the madcap was making inside jokes to himself. Oh Magoo, you’ve done it again!

Anyways anytime I get the chance I tell people the name Jan Karski, the most noble Polishman ever resident of our nations capital, Georgetown professor, who posthumously won the medal of freedom a few years ago. For a while now a former student of his has been sitting on a recording of the most powerful war-time testimonial anyone’s ever heard, here’s a bit of it. Oh I mean to say he was the first witness to bring word back about the concentration camps:

Then, I liked my smallness. Oh smallness is so easy! So comfortable! So safe! And I protected my smallness by an effective shield: diplomatic correctness, obedience of orders, they are the best shields for smallness. I did not realize at that time the enormous moral authority I had. The most powerful men in the Allied camp paid their respects to me! And I accepted it as meaningless courtesy—without realizing I should have used it.

I take that to mean moral authority is allowed to yell at people, any people. Which I do think is a lesson.

I just went through those photos — wonderful! In the last picture, Sharon looks like a typical European. He could be British. German. Slovakian. If you didn’t know he was Jewish, would you have guessed it from the last photo? I doubt it.

This is spot on. I was in an upscale mall near Bethesda, MD, this weekend. Maybe 20% of the patrons were white Americans; the rest were Indian/East Asians, in family groupings, and a smattering of Hispanics. Aside from the immediate observation that they were all (from the 3 year olds through the waddling mothers and fathers to the abuelas) monstrously unattractive, they were all obviously pretty well-off (other than the Hispanics, who appeared to be there to go to Target and Costco). My guess (based on the horrible clothes, lack of fluent English and poor grooming) was that the key demographic among the fathers was H1-B/former H1-B computer programmers making in the 90-150k range. In any case, despite the unpleasant feeling witnessing all of this gave me in the pit of my stomach, it was clearly giving the American consumer goods industry one hell of a shot in the arm (the place was absolutely buzzing, from GameStop to Nordstrom and Saks). It is experiences like this that tell you what you *really* need to know about the bi-partisan consensus on race replacement in America.

This describes the mall near me pretty closely. Is it just mall culture? Tons of people from the Middle East and Eastern Europe, and yeah, they operate those kiosks down the center of the mall selling worthless junk. Do those kiosks actually make any money? I wonder if there’ll be an expose on them some time as just scams to get money from the people opening them.

Interesting juxtaposition here in my white, Republican county in NoCal. I was called for jury duty and wound up in a hallway with about 95% white people. Only one black guy, and a handful of Asians/Hispanics. We’re the registered voters, see. What a contrast to the mall just down the street! Whites vote and sit on juries, immigrants shop and run kiosks.

USA as flophouse/shopping mall. Ask a native white or black American in my home state where they live and they tell you, "Atlanta," or "Dahlonega" or "Brunswick." Americans are apt to express regional pride: the South, the Appalachians, out West.

But to immigrants it's all one undifferentiated, AMERICA!, and they gravitate to wherever their patronage networks are or the green card-spouse, etc. and drift around from there. Never really settling in, adopting a consumerist, shallow, secular lifestyle. The perfect ciitizens for an all-grasping federal government and its mega-corp sponsors.

” Americans are apt to express regional pride: the South, the Appalachians, out West.

But to immigrants it’s all one undifferentiated, AMERICA!, and they gravitate to wherever”

You speak as if Good Americans consciously cultivate “regional pride” out of a sense of duty and nothing stops those vile immigrants from choosing to live rootless lives.

It’s part of the larger delusion among some here that American virtues are all a matter of solemn choice, like eating your spinach. There are no inexorable forces pushing immigrants into Americanization. That’s actually funny because, as any immigrant kid could tell you, parental attempts to keep their kids at least vaguely connected to their ancestral culture is the equivalent of forcing kids to eat spinach!

This is spot on. I was in an upscale mall near Bethesda, MD, this weekend. Maybe 20% of the patrons were white Americans; the rest were Indian/East Asians, in family groupings, and a smattering of Hispanics. Aside from the immediate observation that they were all (from the 3 year olds through the waddling mothers and fathers to the abuelas) monstrously unattractive, they were all obviously pretty well-off (other than the Hispanics, who appeared to be there to go to Target and Costco). My guess (based on the horrible clothes, lack of fluent English and poor grooming) was that the key demographic among the fathers was H1-B/former H1-B computer programmers making in the 90-150k range. In any case, despite the unpleasant feeling witnessing all of this gave me in the pit of my stomach, it was clearly giving the American consumer goods industry one hell of a shot in the arm (the place was absolutely buzzing, from GameStop to Nordstrom and Saks). It is experiences like this that tell you what you *really* need to know about the bi-partisan consensus on race replacement in America.

I was in an “outlet mall” in the Philadelphia suburbs and experienced the same thing – the crowd was maybe 80% non-white, mostly immigrant. Maybe these are the only people with any disposable income or maybe white people shop on the internet nowadays or already have most of the crap they need and have renounced materialism, but I’m sure that if all the immigrants disappeared tomorrow that mall would go broke in a matter of weeks. Then again, probably 90+% of the stuff they were selling in that mall was also imported. Perhaps someday they will figure out a way to sell made in Bangladesh clothes to Bangladeshis in Bangladesh so they won’t have to go 7,000 miles in order to buy stuff made in their home country. Aside from the fat corporate profits that come from selling $10 Chinese sneakers for $100 once you put a “swoosh” on them, these malls do provide some minimum wage jobs for the cashiers and stock clerks, but that’s about it.

Perhaps third world immigrants (headed up by a respectably-paid patriarch, as opposed to East African cab drivers) are the only group in America (of those able to afford it) for whom the gaudy consumer experience of a tacky, generic shopping mall is actually still exciting? Most whites I know, even outside of the SWPL urban bubble, find this sort of thing as exhausting, stressful and dehumanizing as I do, and resort to it because they really need to buy some new houseware or other annoying-to-order-online item. As opposed to newly economically empowered third worlders, for whom it remains a great day out (and provides lots of opportunities to post to social media for their relatives back at home, who will no doubt be here as well in a few years).

It reminds me of a recurring theme on this blog: third world immigrants, both at the relatively high IQ end (Indian business analysts and systems engineers), through the criminally-inclined (former soviets) to the mestizo end, have incredibly poor taste and aesthetic sensibilities by the standards of modern SWPLs.

I have the same experience whenever I shop at brick and mortar stores in the Dallas suburbs of Frisco and Plano. We have a lot of Asians here, without a doubt, but they're punching far above their weight in the retail context. I have to assume that the many affluent whites here are too busy shuttling their kids between their various activities while shopping online. That's my theory because that's what I do.

For a United Nations experience, go to almost any mall in the greater Los Angeles area, especially in the San Fernando Valley and mid-Wilshire. You will find a range of nationalities to match the languages, such as the Hollywood elementary school that had 56 different languages spoken.

There must be a high demand for cell phone cases and screen protectors, based on the demographics. In parts of the east Valley, there is a vibe of Nice cell phone you have there, shame if something were to happen to it.

In the smaller shopping areas in Malibu you usually hear English with some Scandinavian and other European languages spoken by au pairs and tourists depending on the season. There may be the odd Hebrew or Farsi speaker on occasion.

What is the ethnic significance of these strange name spellings, e.g. Anatolij and Mariya?

Those are just different transcriptions of the Cyrillic alphabet. “Anatoly” is what we are used to but in Cyrillic the last two letters would be an “i” and then a vowel shortening sound (represented by a separate letter, here “j”.) In English we would represent both letters with just “y”, e.g., “Dostoevsky” but, in German, “Dostojewskij”.

Cyrillic also has a consonant hardening letter and a consonant softening letter, in English the “hard sign” is rarely represented but the “soft sign” is often represented as a “i” or a “y”.

Next you're going to tell me that Antwon, Ant'Wonne, Antwawn, Antione, and AntwWonNayNay are all spelled that way because of the Bantu alphabet. ;)

I mentioned some weeks ago that I bumped up on the Operation Exodus thing when it was first happening.

I crossed paths occasionally with a literacy volunteer who taught a bunch of the "Russian Jews" to read English, or in some cases, read. One woman he taught, whom I met, was a Russian non-Jew married to a Jew. She was frustrated because no one would be straight up with her about how to spell her first name "in an American way." Her name, Angelica, was transliterated by her handlers as something like Anzhelyikeh, though I think it had more letters than that.

The fact was, her handlers wanted her to retain her apartness. She wanted to assimilate as fast as possible. She used to listen to English regional dialect tapes at the public library to practice them, since, as she put it, she didn't know where she was going to end up finding a job, and wanted not to "Stick out like too stupid to learn. Like, you know, those Allied Drive people."

That was local code for blacks. She had been in the US for two weeks before noticing racial differences, and her literacy tutor (NY Ashkenazi lefty Jew) took it on himself to try to brainwash her otherwise. It didn't work. She eventually asked for another tutor, and he told me that she "had become a fascist," and he reported her as such to the program. I doubt it amounted to anything. In any event he soon gave up tutoring. But I digress.

Hold it, hold it. Charles Bronson was Lithuanian, not a tatar. The Baltic region was too far north for the Tatars who generally resided much further south, toward the Crimea area, Mongolia, etc.

No, Charles Bronson was Lipka Tatar, who lived in Lithuania. Kind of like saying that Buddy Ebsen was half Latvian, because his mother was from there. But her name was Wendt, in other words, German settlers (which, sure enough, was his first language.)

That sounds about right. Meanwhile, the large Mordvin and Mari concentrations (historically, anyway) should be right next door in the next province. Of course, they are down to a few hundred K now. Such is assimilation.

speaking of such, I always thought the funniest fact about Nietzsche was that he really wanted to be descended from Polish Nobleman so he just sort of convinced himself he was and went about as though that were the seat of his descent. Second funniest, which took some time to finally understand, was that there are not a few places, I think Ecce Homo most, where the consensus eventually had to admit that the madcap was making inside jokes to himself. Oh Magoo, you've done it again!

Anyways anytime I get the chance I tell people the name Jan Karski, the most noble Polishman ever resident of our nations capital, Georgetown professor, who posthumously won the medal of freedom a few years ago. For a while now a former student of his has been sitting on a recording of the most powerful war-time testimonial anyone's ever heard, here's a bit of it. Oh I mean to say he was the first witness to bring word back about the concentration camps:

Then, I liked my smallness. Oh smallness is so easy! So comfortable! So safe! And I protected my smallness by an effective shield: diplomatic correctness, obedience of orders, they are the best shields for smallness. I did not realize at that time the enormous moral authority I had. The most powerful men in the Allied camp paid their respects to me! And I accepted it as meaningless courtesy—without realizing I should have used it.

I take that to mean moral authority is allowed to yell at people, any people. Which I do think is a lesson.

[fact about Nietzsche was that he really wanted to be descended from Polish Nobleman so he just sort of convinced himself he was and went about as though that were the seat of his descent]

He mentions this once, as a wish rather than a conviction, at a time when his reason was already shaken.

Recent Russian immigrants with varying degrees of Jewish admixture remind me somewhat of the wave of Italian and Portuguese immigrants that came to Canada in the 70's and 80's. They tend to be very clannish and prefer to mainly deal with their co-ethnics. I'm partly of Ukrainian heritage myself, and I find that these "Warsaw Pact" immigrants will often really open up when I tell them that. Many of my genetic relatives from 23andme who hail from Eastern Europe and now live in the US or Canada have been really eager to contact me. I think assimilation will happen, but because of multicultural policies encouraging tribalism, it will take a few more generations to occur.

What strikes me as very unusual is that a Russian immigrant with family ties to Israel would hook up with a Pakistani Muslim. That deserves a closer investigation.

Ethnic Russians really aren’t clannish. You’re thinking of Ukrainians, who are so to a far greater extent.

Voronezh was precisely the center of the Subbotnik movement. Hair dyed or not, the girls register zero on my Jewdar for actual Ashkenazi ancestry.

Since Jewish descent is matrilineal, as long as their maternal grandmother was Jewish (in turn had a Jewish mother) the rest doesn't matter, but I'm still voting for a Subbotnik claim.

Israel hasn't really looked that hard at the Soviet "Jews" - they figure that if you identify as Jewish that's one more for their team and anyway your kids will grow up as Zionists in a Jewish atmosphere, serve in the Israeli army, etc. so whatever residue of Christianity you had (e.g. posing under a Christmas tree) will fade away in a generation or two. Sharon is the ultimate example. Many Russian "Christians" are atheist anyway and having emigrated to Israel as supposed Jews are in no position to attend church or associate themselves with organized Christianity.

As I mentioned before, this area was part of historic (pre- Polish annexation) Russia and historically would not have had any Jews (other than Subbotniks) but of course in the Soviet period things got all mixed up.

Just for the sake of the argument, consult the photos at this web address: the father looks Ashkenazi to me.

The story says that the parents are from "a strongly-Jewish Russian village". Vysokii is no such thing - it is a strongly Subbotnik Russian village.

Although the Subbotniks adopted (some) Jewish religious practices, they were otherwise indistinguishable from other Russian peasants. They were as different from Ashkenazi Jews in the Pale as chalk and cheese. As I said before, the closest equivalent in America would be "Black Hebrews".

In terms the authentic Jewishness of Russian “Jews” emigrating to Israel in the ’90s, I suspect it may have been relatively easy for the Israeli immigration officials to tell. I know that the Belarussian passport used in the ’90′s listed the holder’s ethnicity. “Jewish” was one of those ethnicities. The same may have been true of Russian passports of that era (but not currently), since this was a practice held over from the USSR. How the ethnicity was determined by the passport office is another story, I suppose.

Speaking only of the immigrant Russian Jewish women I know, they all look unequivocally Ashkenazi, as if they’d just stepped out of a Gustav Klimt painting (e.g. Adele Bloch-Bauer). Their notable character traits include intelligence, warmth, honesty, moderation, and an uncanny aesthetic sense. They seem to have none of the bitter sharpness or odd superstitions of ethnic Russians. They do gravitate towards other Russian Jews and non-Russian former SSR types (Georgians, Armenians…) but they are not exclusive, readily forming friendships with your typical educated American. The best social event I’ve ever attended was a quasi-secular Russian Jewish wedding. Everyone went out of their way to make us feel welcome. The joie de vivre at that event was pretty overwhelming. Providing that the sisters Chernykh were the exception proving the rule, we could do with more Russian Jewish immigrants.

Circassian is a group the Caucuses, from where we get Caucasian, which was chosen as the term for white people by an 18th cent German who wrote:

Caucasian variety—I have taken the name of this variety from Mount Caucasus, both because its neighborhood, and especially its southern slope, produces the most beautiful race of men, I mean the Georgian; and because all physiological reasons converge to this, that in that region, if anywhere, it seems we ought with the greatest probability to place the autochthones (original members) of mankind.

I was in an "outlet mall" in the Philadelphia suburbs and experienced the same thing - the crowd was maybe 80% non-white, mostly immigrant. Maybe these are the only people with any disposable income or maybe white people shop on the internet nowadays or already have most of the crap they need and have renounced materialism, but I'm sure that if all the immigrants disappeared tomorrow that mall would go broke in a matter of weeks. Then again, probably 90+% of the stuff they were selling in that mall was also imported. Perhaps someday they will figure out a way to sell made in Bangladesh clothes to Bangladeshis in Bangladesh so they won't have to go 7,000 miles in order to buy stuff made in their home country. Aside from the fat corporate profits that come from selling $10 Chinese sneakers for $100 once you put a "swoosh" on them, these malls do provide some minimum wage jobs for the cashiers and stock clerks, but that's about it.

Perhaps third world immigrants (headed up by a respectably-paid patriarch, as opposed to East African cab drivers) are the only group in America (of those able to afford it) for whom the gaudy consumer experience of a tacky, generic shopping mall is actually still exciting? Most whites I know, even outside of the SWPL urban bubble, find this sort of thing as exhausting, stressful and dehumanizing as I do, and resort to it because they really need to buy some new houseware or other annoying-to-order-online item. As opposed to newly economically empowered third worlders, for whom it remains a great day out (and provides lots of opportunities to post to social media for their relatives back at home, who will no doubt be here as well in a few years).

It reminds me of a recurring theme on this blog: third world immigrants, both at the relatively high IQ end (Indian business analysts and systems engineers), through the criminally-inclined (former soviets) to the mestizo end, have incredibly poor taste and aesthetic sensibilities by the standards of modern SWPLs.

I was in an "outlet mall" in the Philadelphia suburbs and experienced the same thing - the crowd was maybe 80% non-white, mostly immigrant. Maybe these are the only people with any disposable income or maybe white people shop on the internet nowadays or already have most of the crap they need and have renounced materialism, but I'm sure that if all the immigrants disappeared tomorrow that mall would go broke in a matter of weeks. Then again, probably 90+% of the stuff they were selling in that mall was also imported. Perhaps someday they will figure out a way to sell made in Bangladesh clothes to Bangladeshis in Bangladesh so they won't have to go 7,000 miles in order to buy stuff made in their home country. Aside from the fat corporate profits that come from selling $10 Chinese sneakers for $100 once you put a "swoosh" on them, these malls do provide some minimum wage jobs for the cashiers and stock clerks, but that's about it.

I have the same experience whenever I shop at brick and mortar stores in the Dallas suburbs of Frisco and Plano. We have a lot of Asians here, without a doubt, but they’re punching far above their weight in the retail context. I have to assume that the many affluent whites here are too busy shuttling their kids between their various activities while shopping online. That’s my theory because that’s what I do.

I was in an "outlet mall" in the Philadelphia suburbs and experienced the same thing - the crowd was maybe 80% non-white, mostly immigrant. Maybe these are the only people with any disposable income or maybe white people shop on the internet nowadays or already have most of the crap they need and have renounced materialism, but I'm sure that if all the immigrants disappeared tomorrow that mall would go broke in a matter of weeks. Then again, probably 90+% of the stuff they were selling in that mall was also imported. Perhaps someday they will figure out a way to sell made in Bangladesh clothes to Bangladeshis in Bangladesh so they won't have to go 7,000 miles in order to buy stuff made in their home country. Aside from the fat corporate profits that come from selling $10 Chinese sneakers for $100 once you put a "swoosh" on them, these malls do provide some minimum wage jobs for the cashiers and stock clerks, but that's about it.

For a United Nations experience, go to almost any mall in the greater Los Angeles area, especially in the San Fernando Valley and mid-Wilshire. You will find a range of nationalities to match the languages, such as the Hollywood elementary school that had 56 different languages spoken.

There must be a high demand for cell phone cases and screen protectors, based on the demographics. In parts of the east Valley, there is a vibe of Nice cell phone you have there, shame if something were to happen to it.

In the smaller shopping areas in Malibu you usually hear English with some Scandinavian and other European languages spoken by au pairs and tourists depending on the season. There may be the odd Hebrew or Farsi speaker on occasion.

South of Seattle (South King County, Tacoma area) there are quite a few former-Soviet immigrants (mostly Ukrainian and Moldovan). A lot of them are Baptist or Pentecostal Christians.
I see a lot of them at the YMCA branch I go to. The older generation (parents/grandparents brought over later) sometimes wear old-country clothes, but most of the Ukrainians/Moldovans blend in very well with the local blue-collar white population (IMHO they would stick out more in Seattle itself).

Recent Russian immigrants with varying degrees of Jewish admixture remind me somewhat of the wave of Italian and Portuguese immigrants that came to Canada in the 70's and 80's. They tend to be very clannish and prefer to mainly deal with their co-ethnics. I'm partly of Ukrainian heritage myself, and I find that these "Warsaw Pact" immigrants will often really open up when I tell them that. Many of my genetic relatives from 23andme who hail from Eastern Europe and now live in the US or Canada have been really eager to contact me. I think assimilation will happen, but because of multicultural policies encouraging tribalism, it will take a few more generations to occur.

What strikes me as very unusual is that a Russian immigrant with family ties to Israel would hook up with a Pakistani Muslim. That deserves a closer investigation.

The parent’s probably emigrated to Israel for economic reasons. They may not even have any ethnic Jewish background, or only very dilute. Fake genealogies have been produced for immigration purposes.

Earlier articles had the girls from Voronezh, which I assume is the local big town, in Russia, about 150 miles NE of Kharkiv (which is in the Eastern Ukraine). This would be about the furthest German advance into Russia in WW2 (for context: they made it about another 100-200 miles to the SE towards Volgograd (Stalingrad). I'm thinking Kursk was fought just about there.)

I agree that the girls do not look particularly Jewish, but I'm guessing they are dying their hair also. I think it's also true that to get to Israel there must have been some Jewish ancestry, however, my experience with Soviet Jews back in the day is that for the most part they were secular and frequently had non-Jewish spouses. I'm not sure what fraction of heritage is used: I've heard of immigrants from the former USSR having 1/4 German heritage getting into Germany, not sure what standard applies to Israel. It seems likely that one of the parents is "Jewish" by Russian ethnic category. Incidentally, the earlier Washington, DC marriage explains the Italian surname cited earlier for the eldest sister.

Also worth mentioning that this part of Russia, i.e., anything in the area south or north of Moscow and moving East is going to be still very ethnically diverse, not only Jews of various ethnic origins (e.g., Subbotniks, Circassians -- I actually knew a Circassian Jewish family in NYC 40 years ago who were thoroughly assimilated) but also the various Finno-Ugric tribes (Mordvin, Mari, etc.) who are going to be hard to tell from anyone else without some powerful "Slavdar." Remember the old saying, "Scratch a Russian, find a Tatar" -- think Charles Bronson -- the Russian Empire was very diverse.

Also, re: the article -- "Mariya crossed paths with Oscar Romero, who works at a flower wholesale business in downtown Los Angeles, according to records. The relationship blossomed -- that was lazy. Too bad it wasn't "nipped in the bud."

One Jewish grandparent suffices for immigration to Israel, but it does not guarantee citizenship. The Orthodox rabbinate in Israel is empowered to decide who is actually a Jew, and the only quarter-Jews who would qualify would be those who had a maternal grandmother who at least at some point in her life had documented links to an approved (i.e. Orthodox) Jewish community.

Actually to judge from the list of signees, a lot of them are NOT professional physicists nor could they even be construed as physicists in any sense. But no matter, their opinions – no better than any one elses on the matter – will be accorded extra deference by the I-f**king-love-science-despite-not-knowing-anything-about-it crowd. Yeah! Science, bitch!

I quickly scanned that manifesto and as soon as I saw the term "institutional racism" aka phlogiston, my eyes glazed over and I knew that these "scientists" were simply invoking appeals to the unmeasurable. Would scientists do that?

The story says that the parents are from “a strongly-Jewish Russian village”. Vysokii is no such thing – it is a strongly Subbotnik Russian village.

Although the Subbotniks adopted (some) Jewish religious practices, they were otherwise indistinguishable from other Russian peasants. They were as different from Ashkenazi Jews in the Pale as chalk and cheese. As I said before, the closest equivalent in America would be “Black Hebrews”.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm saying look at the pictures: the father looks Jewish to me, specifically, Ashkenazi Jewish. Specifically, he resembles my Ashkenazi father in law who was a fervent Catholic.

It's not like the Subbotnik villages in Voronezh area were existing in a vacuum. If the area was receptive to Jews, then I could easily imagine Ashkenazim ending up there during the Soviet period or even during the Imperial period. I've known Ashkenazim from places like Chelyabinsk, and the other big industrial towns built during the '30's. Not to mention all the other big towns, Georgia, Armenia (Kasparov), and so on.

USA as flophouse/shopping mall. Ask a native white or black American in my home state where they live and they tell you, "Atlanta," or "Dahlonega" or "Brunswick." Americans are apt to express regional pride: the South, the Appalachians, out West.

But to immigrants it's all one undifferentiated, AMERICA!, and they gravitate to wherever their patronage networks are or the green card-spouse, etc. and drift around from there. Never really settling in, adopting a consumerist, shallow, secular lifestyle. The perfect ciitizens for an all-grasping federal government and its mega-corp sponsors.

Mostly spot on…but this didn’t Just Happen.

Someone(s) has been tinkering with US immigration policy since the 1960s to slant it in the direction of these floppers and shoppers in particular, and to the exclusion of other kinds of potential Americans.

“All grasping federal government” and “mega corp sponsors” strikes me as as metonymy: exactly WHO in these institutions–whether constituted by law or invented by corporate charter–has this influence?

There are power brokers and spin masters, those who benefit more or less, those whose visions are articulated and those whose visions (and concerns) are suppressed.

That is what needs to be mapped and articulated. These relations of power, these actual acts.

We’ve only gotten as far, as a republic, as having people like Mark Krikorian and Roy Beck pointing out that there *IS* a problem, despite the assertions of the propaganda masters.

Naming the problem is hard enough. Start naming names about who might benefit from this redefinition of the US and replacement of its founding stock, even in the spirit of formulating testable hypotheses, and the accusations of racism, anti-Semitism, xenophobia, Islamophobia, etc., come fast and furious.

Which is why, e.g., this crucial, rich, complex, and potentially explosive area of inquiry has not been taken up by tenured researchers sinecured in The Ed Biz. They have no problem, e.g., tracing out the evolution of telcoms consent decrees or “domestic abuse” law…or various Studies Studies topics, like the legitimacy of Fifty Shades as Art, or Lady Gaga’s tweets to its fanbase.

The USA was an HBD experiment by a very gifted group of people FOR others with those gifts or capable of quickly emulating or developing them. The idea since 1965 that the US is a mercantile enterprise open to all tired poor huddled fleecable-for-profit comers arrived in my experience (Northeast metropolis, 1960s to 1980s) with Russian and other Jews in the big Jewish immigrations of the late 1800s–when they comprised a huge portion for several years of total immigrants.

What I call real Americans do have regional and ethnic pride, and a sense of roots. They do not perceive themselves as people in diaspora, but people seeking to re-establish those roots.

The problem with HBD is that you could use it to justify genocide on the grounds of the higher IQ group having the right to get rid of the lower IQ group in the most efficient way possible? While nationalism, like white nationalism is more about we want to like the way we are, and IQ arguments are only secondary in nature?

Hold it, hold it. Charles Bronson was Lithuanian, not a tatar. The Baltic region was too far north for the Tatars who generally resided much further south, toward the Crimea area, Mongolia, etc.

The Baltic region was too far north for the Tatars who generally resided much further south, toward the Crimea area, Mongolia, etc.

Some Tatars have lived in the Baltic area for centuries. In the 1600s, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth extended from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea.

Here’s an excerpt from the Wikipedia article about the Lipka Tatars:

Today there are about 10,000-15,000 Lipka Tatars in the former areas of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth. The majority of descendants of Tatar families in Poland can trace their descent from the nobles of the early Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth.

Lipka Tatars had settlements in north-east Poland, Belarus, Lithuania, south-east Latvia and Ukraine. Today most reside in Poland, Lithuania and Belarus. Most of the Lipka Tatars (80%) assimilated into the ranks of the nobility in the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth while some lower noble Tatars assimilated to the Belarusian, Polish, Ukrainian and Lithuanian townsfolk and peasant populations.

“Circassian” came to mean any white women from east europe or w/ fair features,
Though if memory serves originally they were reknown for the black curly locks, white skin and fair eyes- much like a beautiful fair (or ‘pale’ thesedays) scot or irish woman when they look good.

Recent Russian immigrants with varying degrees of Jewish admixture remind me somewhat of the wave of Italian and Portuguese immigrants that came to Canada in the 70's and 80's. They tend to be very clannish and prefer to mainly deal with their co-ethnics. I'm partly of Ukrainian heritage myself, and I find that these "Warsaw Pact" immigrants will often really open up when I tell them that. Many of my genetic relatives from 23andme who hail from Eastern Europe and now live in the US or Canada have been really eager to contact me. I think assimilation will happen, but because of multicultural policies encouraging tribalism, it will take a few more generations to occur.

What strikes me as very unusual is that a Russian immigrant with family ties to Israel would hook up with a Pakistani Muslim. That deserves a closer investigation.

What strikes me as very unusual is that a Russian immigrant with family ties to Israel would hook up with a Pakistani Muslim. That deserves a closer investigation.

Yes, that is very odd. Either they’re not really Jewish, or they’re connected to Mossad. They owned and operated mall kiosks, which along with “art students” have been discovered to be fronts for Mossad:

Fox News has learned that one group of Israelis, spotted in North Carolina recently, is suspected of keeping an apartment in California to spy on a group of Arabs who the United States is also investigating for links to terrorism. Numerous classified documents obtained by Fox News indicate that even prior to September 11, as many as 140 other Israelis had been detained or arrested in a secretive and sprawling investigation into suspected espionage by Israelis in the United States.

Investigators from numerous government agencies are part of a working group that’s been compiling evidence since the mid ’90s. These documents detail hundreds of incidents in cities and towns across the country that investigators say, “may well be an organized intelligence gathering activity.”

The first part of the investigation focuses on Israelis who say they are art students from the University of Jerusalem and Bazala Academy. They repeatedly made contact with U.S. government personnel, the report says, by saying they wanted to sell cheap art or handiwork.

Documents say they, “targeted and penetrated military bases.” The DEA, FBI and dozens of government facilities, and even secret offices and unlisted private homes of law enforcement and intelligence personnel. The majority of those questioned, “stated they served in military intelligence, electronic surveillance intercept and or explosive ordinance units.”

Another part of the investigation has resulted in the detention and arrests of dozens of Israelis at American mall kiosks, where they’ve been selling toys called Puzzle Car and Zoom Copter. Investigators suspect a front.

Shortly after The New York Times and Washington Post reported the Israeli detentions last months, the carts began vanishing. Zoom Copter’s Web page says, “We are aware of the situation caused by thousands of mall carts being closed at the last minute. This in no way reflects the quality of the toy or its salability. The problem lies in the operators’ business policies.”

The story says that the parents are from "a strongly-Jewish Russian village". Vysokii is no such thing - it is a strongly Subbotnik Russian village.

Although the Subbotniks adopted (some) Jewish religious practices, they were otherwise indistinguishable from other Russian peasants. They were as different from Ashkenazi Jews in the Pale as chalk and cheese. As I said before, the closest equivalent in America would be "Black Hebrews".

I’m not disagreeing with you. I’m saying look at the pictures: the father looks Jewish to me, specifically, Ashkenazi Jewish. Specifically, he resembles my Ashkenazi father in law who was a fervent Catholic.

It’s not like the Subbotnik villages in Voronezh area were existing in a vacuum. If the area was receptive to Jews, then I could easily imagine Ashkenazim ending up there during the Soviet period or even during the Imperial period. I’ve known Ashkenazim from places like Chelyabinsk, and the other big industrial towns built during the ’30′s. Not to mention all the other big towns, Georgia, Armenia (Kasparov), and so on.

"The white or yellow ones seem to assimilate within a few generations. It’s a matter of what groups you can marry into."

Assimilate in the sense of becoming indistinguishable by speech or mannerisms alone? Perhaps. But they bring their particular social capital to this country - the kind of social capital that allows them to work at mall kiosks, become garage beauticians, and run immigration grifts - and that stays. What really happens is that the country assimilates to them and becomes more like them.

“What really happens is that the country assimilates to them and becomes more like them.”

Yes, in the way that a landscape overrun by kudzu looks like every other landscape overrun by kudzu.

Those are just different transcriptions of the Cyrillic alphabet. "Anatoly" is what we are used to but in Cyrillic the last two letters would be an "i" and then a vowel shortening sound (represented by a separate letter, here "j".) In English we would represent both letters with just "y", e.g., "Dostoevsky" but, in German, "Dostojewskij".

Cyrillic also has a consonant hardening letter and a consonant softening letter, in English the "hard sign" is rarely represented but the "soft sign" is often represented as a "i" or a "y".

Next you’re going to tell me that Antwon, Ant’Wonne, Antwawn, Antione, and AntwWonNayNay are all spelled that way because of the Bantu alphabet.

I mentioned some weeks ago that I bumped up on the Operation Exodus thing when it was first happening.

I crossed paths occasionally with a literacy volunteer who taught a bunch of the “Russian Jews” to read English, or in some cases, read. One woman he taught, whom I met, was a Russian non-Jew married to a Jew. She was frustrated because no one would be straight up with her about how to spell her first name “in an American way.” Her name, Angelica, was transliterated by her handlers as something like Anzhelyikeh, though I think it had more letters than that.

The fact was, her handlers wanted her to retain her apartness. She wanted to assimilate as fast as possible. She used to listen to English regional dialect tapes at the public library to practice them, since, as she put it, she didn’t know where she was going to end up finding a job, and wanted not to “Stick out like too stupid to learn. Like, you know, those Allied Drive people.”

That was local code for blacks. She had been in the US for two weeks before noticing racial differences, and her literacy tutor (NY Ashkenazi lefty Jew) took it on himself to try to brainwash her otherwise. It didn’t work. She eventually asked for another tutor, and he told me that she “had become a fascist,” and he reported her as such to the program. I doubt it amounted to anything. In any event he soon gave up tutoring. But I digress.

"The white or yellow ones seem to assimilate within a few generations. It’s a matter of what groups you can marry into."

Assimilate in the sense of becoming indistinguishable by speech or mannerisms alone? Perhaps. But they bring their particular social capital to this country - the kind of social capital that allows them to work at mall kiosks, become garage beauticians, and run immigration grifts - and that stays. What really happens is that the country assimilates to them and becomes more like them.

Or is this by the Bernays rule? Edward Bernays was the blood nephew of both Mr & Mrs Sigmund Freud, so both got to call him nephew, unlike 99%+ of besiblinged couples.

So the slightly older cousin we took our baby daughter to visit yesterday is my half-niece-in-law? How cumbersome. She can call me "Uncle"!

“Isn’t your wife’s nephew your nephew, too?”

Yeah, I too wondered about the phrase “my wife’s nephew”. Checking a dictionary, “nephew” means either (a) the son of one’s brother or sister, or (b) the son of one’s brother-in-law or sister-in-law. Here, (a) is a blood relative, and (b) is not (or not necessarily). So maybe Steve was thinking, “my nephew = nephew(a), my wife’s nephew(a) = my nephew(b)”.

The US has become an undefended target in the eyes of millions of people who plan to come here and NEVER GO HOME. Obviously these sisters are two examples of that. What makes their case particularly galling is that they had a First World haven in Israel with their parents but no, they had to come here too.

We spend trillions on defense and yet we are defenseless. We spend trillions on making other First World countries safe (Europe, Japan, South Korea) yet we do not take care of ourselves.

The two Chernykh women's ancestral Jewish affiliation is probably Subbotnik (Judaizing ethnic Russian) rather than ethnic Jewish, and they appear to observe no Jewish religious practices, so that might explain Israel's lack of appeal to them. Also, since their parents appear to be Israeli residents rather than Israeli citizens, it might not be guaranteed that their adult children could emigrate there. That said, the U.S. government should send the younger one in the sham marriage back to Russia or wherever else will take her. In an ideal world, our government would also be able to deport the entire Farook clan and the older Chernykh sister as well.

The US has become an undefended target in the eyes of millions of people who plan to come here and NEVER GO HOME

The Dallas Cowboys became America's team and now America has become the world's country. Everybody thinks America is their country. All they have to do is move here and we have no say about it. We have to accept them and let them take our jobs, although according to the elites there is no such thing as "our jobs". America is really getting to be a big joke.

There wasn’t a buried lede, there was no lede – when is Maria being deported for engaging in a sham marriage? Weren’t the reporters interested in that question? They already have Enrique admitting to engaging in marriage fraud. Maria is the “Great White Illegal” that can be used as a poster-child for deportation. You’d think that the press, depressed at their bad luck at never hitting blackjack for the “Great White Defendent” in murder and rape cases or the “Great White Terrorist” would jump at the chance to highlight the “Great White Illegal” and yet they don’t want to lift the lid on this issue and write about deporting Maria.

She will be deported likely once they convict her dumb mestizo patsy of immigration fraud (the technical charge is called something different, I can't remember what exactly). They won't charge her with a crime, more than likely -- while jail time is technically a legal sanction for immigrants engaging in fraud of this nature, they very rarely pursue this course of action. The usual option is simply deportation - which makes a lot more sense, really. But deport they (almost) always do. There is simply no way you are staying in the US after you've been judged to have engaged in immigration fraud. The fact that there are tens of millions of turd worlders living it up here tends to obscure this reality in the perceptions of many, but it is in fact a reality.

Also -- deporting her right now as a perpetrator of immigration fraud would surely be prejudicial to the criminal case being faced by Marquez, no?

There are enormous distinctions and differences between pre-1924 Great Wave immigrants and post-1965 immigrants, and every one of the differences of the post-1965 immigrants has contributed far less to us than the plundering they’ve done to the United States. Pre-1924 immigrants contributed to building the United States and aspired to and attained assimilation that, by 1940, had melded us into One People (we were even proud of our regional distinctions, to the point that Americans joked good-naturedly about them); while the post-1965 immigrants have come merely to feed parasitically off of the rotting welfare state splinter-group-identity-politics corpse of what used to be our country. The contrast is blindingly obvious to ordinary Americans who lived and knew our One People era, but is invisible to ordinary Americans who grew up from 1960 on.

The US has become an undefended target in the eyes of millions of people who plan to come here and NEVER GO HOME. Obviously these sisters are two examples of that. What makes their case particularly galling is that they had a First World haven in Israel with their parents but no, they had to come here too.

We spend trillions on defense and yet we are defenseless. We spend trillions on making other First World countries safe (Europe, Japan, South Korea) yet we do not take care of ourselves.

It all just makes me sick.

The two Chernykh women’s ancestral Jewish affiliation is probably Subbotnik (Judaizing ethnic Russian) rather than ethnic Jewish, and they appear to observe no Jewish religious practices, so that might explain Israel’s lack of appeal to them. Also, since their parents appear to be Israeli residents rather than Israeli citizens, it might not be guaranteed that their adult children could emigrate there. That said, the U.S. government should send the younger one in the sham marriage back to Russia or wherever else will take her. In an ideal world, our government would also be able to deport the entire Farook clan and the older Chernykh sister as well.

Umm, bit of a Freudian slip? Wouldn’t he be YOUR nephew too, Steve? (Realize you probably only mean he’s not blood, but comes off as if you simply don’t like the kid).

Syed Raheel Farook, a U.S. Navy veteran from a first-generation Pakistani family. Friends knew him as Raheel. …

Again, the former AV club presidents and yearbook committee queens who are immediately all over Trump for not knowing the full 26 syllable name of the latest, greatest moderate rebel leader in Syria (trust me, he’s not part of the human liver-eating tribe, he’s totally vetted by State) still have no clue about Jihad-World naming conventions. Syed is a honorific, so of course his friends call him something else. And yeah, Fire Chief Wilson is actually not called “Fire Chief” by his family and friends, thanks for shining the light of understanding into our complex world, journo-listers!

Incidentally, are people here mad at the younger sister for immigration fraud and the thought of her probably not being deported (FBI will claim she provided “material” testimony on her “husband” Marquez) or madder that Hispanics don’t even have to bother with such things as fake marriages to US citizens as the Federal, state, and local governments are already in full connivance with their entry into the US?

“Sweden is set to drastically reduce the flow of refugees into the country by imposing strict identity checks on all travellers from Denmark, as Scandinavian countries compete with each other to shed their reputations as havens for asylum seekers.
“The government now considers that the current situation, with a large number of people entering the country in a relatively short time, poses a serious threat to public order and national security,” the government said in a statement accompanying legislation enabling the border controls to take place.

In his new year address, Denmark’s liberal prime minister, Lars Løkke Rasmussen, said the country was prepared to impose similar controls on its border with Germany, if the Swedish passport checks left large numbers of asylum seekers stranded in Denmark…. Last month, the government said police should be able to confiscate valuables from refugees to help cover their costs – just one of 34 proposals aimed at tightening refugee policy…Last week, Norway’s rightwing government proposed a package of new measures that it claimed would make Oslo’s asylum policies “among Europe’s toughest”. “

Their identity seems to be rather fluid depending on whatever door they want opened. It doesn't seem as if they actually care much about ethnic-religious-racial identity and just hook up with those who seem compatible on a personal basis, entering the ranks of the masses of mixed-meat people of the US. I wouldn't call them gold-diggers though since the men they got involved with were rather low in status and money nor were they very good-looking men. Just some floaters like millions of others.

Agreed. “Adventuresses” is a really flamboyant term for women who hawk phone protectors in the mall or run hair salons from their garage.

That presupposes they are satisfied with their station in life. I doubt this. Adventuress is pretty apt for a couple of gals who have crossed several borders and dated several men when it has been to their advantage. Not forgetting the deceit of at least the younger sister.

The only heartwarming part is that you have Jews and Muslims dating on a regular basis. Who said the peace process was dead.

There wasn't a buried lede, there was no lede - when is Maria being deported for engaging in a sham marriage? Weren't the reporters interested in that question? They already have Enrique admitting to engaging in marriage fraud. Maria is the "Great White Illegal" that can be used as a poster-child for deportation. You'd think that the press, depressed at their bad luck at never hitting blackjack for the "Great White Defendent" in murder and rape cases or the "Great White Terrorist" would jump at the chance to highlight the "Great White Illegal" and yet they don't want to lift the lid on this issue and write about deporting Maria.

She will be deported likely once they convict her dumb mestizo patsy of immigration fraud (the technical charge is called something different, I can’t remember what exactly). They won’t charge her with a crime, more than likely — while jail time is technically a legal sanction for immigrants engaging in fraud of this nature, they very rarely pursue this course of action. The usual option is simply deportation – which makes a lot more sense, really. But deport they (almost) always do. There is simply no way you are staying in the US after you’ve been judged to have engaged in immigration fraud. The fact that there are tens of millions of turd worlders living it up here tends to obscure this reality in the perceptions of many, but it is in fact a reality.

Also — deporting her right now as a perpetrator of immigration fraud would surely be prejudicial to the criminal case being faced by Marquez, no?

I don't know what scam the sister's parents used to get into Israel but all the clues point to the sisters have little or no Jewish origin. They are as Jewish as a ham sandwich.

Sharon's looks have an explanation - his mother was a Subbotnik - these were Russian Christian peasants who spontaneously adopted Judaism on their own and were not (at least at first) accepted as Jews by the Jewish community. A lot of them went to Palestine and ironically they were much more religious than the Jewish Zionists, most of whom leaned toward socialism. The closest equivalent in the US would be the Black "Jews" like Michelle Obama's cousin the "Rabbi". Eventually the Subbotniks who went to Palestine blended into the regular Jewish community.

Possibly the sisters' parents claimed Subbotnik ancestry as their ticket to Israel. The article says that they are from a village nearly 400 miles south of Moscow. That general area is where the Subbotniks were centered. This area is outside the Pale of Settlement (the portion of Poland annexed to Russia in the 18th century) where all the real Jews were originally located. Prior to that annexation, Russia had (other than the Subbotniks) very few Jews.

About the Subbotnik stuff, you’ve got the wrong Israeli general. That was Rafael (“Raful”) Eitan. Sharon was A. Jewish on both sides.

Yes, Raful Eitan is Subbotnik on both sides but Sharon is so on his mother's side:

Sharon was born on February 26, 1928 in Kfar Malal, an agricultural moshav, then in the British Mandate of Palestine, to Shmuel Scheinerman (1896–1956) of Brest-Litovsk and Vera (née Schneirov) Scheinerman (1900–1988) of Mogilev.[14] His parents met while at university in Tiflis (now Tbilisi, Republic of Georgia), where Sharon's father was studying agronomy and his mother was studying medicine. His mother, Vera, was from a family of Russian Subbotnik Jewish origin.[15]
[Wikipedia]

The US has become an undefended target in the eyes of millions of people who plan to come here and NEVER GO HOME. Obviously these sisters are two examples of that. What makes their case particularly galling is that they had a First World haven in Israel with their parents but no, they had to come here too.

We spend trillions on defense and yet we are defenseless. We spend trillions on making other First World countries safe (Europe, Japan, South Korea) yet we do not take care of ourselves.

It all just makes me sick.

The US has become an undefended target in the eyes of millions of people who plan to come here and NEVER GO HOME

The Dallas Cowboys became America’s team and now America has become the world’s country. Everybody thinks America is their country. All they have to do is move here and we have no say about it. We have to accept them and let them take our jobs, although according to the elites there is no such thing as “our jobs”. America is really getting to be a big joke.

I wasn’t born here, I came here legally. I went before the Judges, I even went to a passport photo location that was on the list given to me by the government because that was one of the locations on the list, I’m sure I could have gone anywhere for the photos. I went to the interviews, it never occurred to me to cut corners or take shortcuts. I took these things seriously, I thought it meant something. I wanted to be an American and that meant doing things like the Americans did them. I look at these people and all I see is slime, sleazebags that have no principles other than getting what they want as easily and quickly as they want. Nothing means anything besides gimme. I can barely read the news anymore. People from outside and people inside. I am waiting for the day when there will be a full magazine spread of the Kardashians taking a shit. What has happened to us? My God, we are in a light speed race to the bottom. I met some new “immigrants” from XXXX recently and they were wearing Nike headbands, I almost crapped my guts. Even the ISIS murderers are wearing Nike headbands. It seems all there is COOL! Blah! Whatever!

About the Subbotnik stuff, you've got the wrong Israeli general. That was Rafael ("Raful") Eitan. Sharon was A. Jewish on both sides.

Yes, Raful Eitan is Subbotnik on both sides but Sharon is so on his mother’s side:

Sharon was born on February 26, 1928 in Kfar Malal, an agricultural moshav, then in the British Mandate of Palestine, to Shmuel Scheinerman (1896–1956) of Brest-Litovsk and Vera (née Schneirov) Scheinerman (1900–1988) of Mogilev.[14] His parents met while at university in Tiflis (now Tbilisi, Republic of Georgia), where Sharon’s father was studying agronomy and his mother was studying medicine. His mother, Vera, was from a family of Russian Subbotnik Jewish origin.[15]
[Wikipedia]

Agreed. "Adventuresses" is a really flamboyant term for women who hawk phone protectors in the mall or run hair salons from their garage.

That presupposes they are satisfied with their station in life. I doubt this. Adventuress is pretty apt for a couple of gals who have crossed several borders and dated several men when it has been to their advantage. Not forgetting the deceit of at least the younger sister.

The only heartwarming part is that you have Jews and Muslims dating on a regular basis. Who said the peace process was dead.

Ah but you are missing the great point. Russian women are notorious for requiring BEEEG A-holes. Not just your standard grade jerks. BEEEG! Jerks. Bad boys. A-holes. A-holeness to a whole other level. Like Chechen level even.

If these Russian women had wanted money, well Silicon Valley is filled with nerds with money. But they never touched them. Heck they could have landed an up and coming Hollywood writer, on the theory that a strong female hand guiding them could turn a C lister screenwriter into an A lister producer. But they did not choose that.

Instead, what did two pretty young women with no money and no real support choose -- the brother of a Jihadi who was low rent -- his father a retired truck driver; and a Latino layabout, the latter with which the younger one had a child.

Here's the perfect test case for the failure of beta male provision. Not even Uber, Lyft, and Dropbox money could persuade two attractive Russian women to stomach White beta male nerdiness -- instead they chose two swarthy but dominant A-holes. Tingles uber alles. Heck not even the allure of Hollywood fame, of being maybe the wife of a big time producer could make them stomach the SWPL lack of uber-A-hole testosterone.

If Weed is the big vice of the male millenial generation, then A-hole testosterone is that of its women. There is enough money to be made for even relative failures scamming the system that beta male provisioning is worthless while Alpha male a-holeness is cost-less.

Something to ponder -- as Jewish women shun anything but swarthy A-holes like the Russian women who probably are not Jewish, what will the Jewish male response be? Double down on the beta male strategy or Alpha Up via technology, including testosterone enhancement, artificial personality enhancement (don't laugh, its already a DARPA project), and sex bots? Or simply switch gears and demand deportation of all the Alpha A-holes on the theory of likely scamming (true) and terrorism (at least probable for many).

Earlier articles had the girls from Voronezh, which I assume is the local big town, in Russia, about 150 miles NE of Kharkiv (which is in the Eastern Ukraine). This would be about the furthest German advance into Russia in WW2 (for context: they made it about another 100-200 miles to the SE towards Volgograd (Stalingrad). I'm thinking Kursk was fought just about there.)

I agree that the girls do not look particularly Jewish, but I'm guessing they are dying their hair also. I think it's also true that to get to Israel there must have been some Jewish ancestry, however, my experience with Soviet Jews back in the day is that for the most part they were secular and frequently had non-Jewish spouses. I'm not sure what fraction of heritage is used: I've heard of immigrants from the former USSR having 1/4 German heritage getting into Germany, not sure what standard applies to Israel. It seems likely that one of the parents is "Jewish" by Russian ethnic category. Incidentally, the earlier Washington, DC marriage explains the Italian surname cited earlier for the eldest sister.

Also worth mentioning that this part of Russia, i.e., anything in the area south or north of Moscow and moving East is going to be still very ethnically diverse, not only Jews of various ethnic origins (e.g., Subbotniks, Circassians -- I actually knew a Circassian Jewish family in NYC 40 years ago who were thoroughly assimilated) but also the various Finno-Ugric tribes (Mordvin, Mari, etc.) who are going to be hard to tell from anyone else without some powerful "Slavdar." Remember the old saying, "Scratch a Russian, find a Tatar" -- think Charles Bronson -- the Russian Empire was very diverse.

Also, re: the article -- "Mariya crossed paths with Oscar Romero, who works at a flower wholesale business in downtown Los Angeles, according to records. The relationship blossomed -- that was lazy. Too bad it wasn't "nipped in the bud."

The white or yellow ones seem to assimilate within a few generations. It's a matter of what groups you can marry into.

Since we still have “Irish Americans”, “Italian Americans”, and “German Americans” I would say they never assimilate. You are American or not, nothing else goes in front of it. All immigration has been bad for the United States.

Actually to judge from the list of signees, a lot of them are NOT professional physicists nor could they even be construed as physicists in any sense. But no matter, their opinions - no better than any one elses on the matter - will be accorded extra deference by the I-f**king-love-science-despite-not-knowing-anything-about-it crowd. Yeah! Science, bitch!

I quickly scanned that manifesto and as soon as I saw the term “institutional racism” aka phlogiston, my eyes glazed over and I knew that these “scientists” were simply invoking appeals to the unmeasurable. Would scientists do that?

The New York Times has an interesting map about Trump’s Republican support across the Nation. The Trump Belt basically tracks Appalachia into the Deep South. Trump’s support is strongest in West Virginia and then New York State. He seems particularly popular in North Carolina, and the Deep South States of Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana. It would be interesting if there was a Scots-Irish aspect to Trump support as he is the son of the Outer Hebrides. Louisiana makes sense for some strange reason as they have a penchant for “Big Man” politics and larger than life characters, but Alabama and Mississippi supporting a Yankee is interesting.

Seems like Trump is popular with “Former Californians” in Oregon, Nevada, Arizona and perhaps Hawaii. In general, Trump polls well in California, admittedly these are California Republicans. The same can be said about Hawaiian Republicans and New York Republicans.

Trump polls worst in the Mountain West. In particular, the Republican stronghold of Utah has no time for him. I assume his larger than life persona that helps him in Louisiana and New York gets little mileage in more milquetoast and sane Utah. It would seem that the Mountain West with the least exposure to the wonders of Diversity are the States least interested in Trump’s message.

"Seems like Trump is popular with “Former Californians” in Oregon, Nevada, Arizona and perhaps Hawaii. In general, Trump polls well in California, admittedly these are California Republicans. The same can be said about Hawaiian Republicans and New York Republicans."

Republicans living in California, Hawaii or New York are people who aren't choosing sides because of social proof but have decided to be Republicans in places where they will experience blow back for doing so. That tells me they are more committed to their principles and are likely to take the enemy more seriously.

A few years back, we had a lot of burglaries in the Hollywood hills. The police were flummoxed. Driving out of my friends apartment in the area of concern, I notice an spent out looking Eastern European guy standing in front of his building. I said, “you see that guy? There’s your burglary problem.”
He says, “how do you know?” I said “because I know a Russian or an Eastern European fresh off the boat when I see em. You’ve got fresh eurotrash living in some apartment in the area, and they’re organized.”
Long story short, the police held stake outs, and found that it was exactly as I’d said.
The Russians they could catch were prosecuted, their apartments raided, and the burglaries stopped. But not before one of em got into my friends gated parking area, and relieved one of the tenants of their Beemer at gunpoint.
They’re pretty easy to pick out, since the don’t know how to blend in, aside from being white. Shitty clothes or track suits, gold chains, greased back hair, stupid look on their face, etc.
If you see the likes of them hanging in an expensive neighborhood, its not good.
Luckily, they think they blend in, but they don’t. All you have to do is pay attention, and call the cops when you see them hanging around.

“Between 1968 and 1973, almost all Soviet Jewish emigres resettled in Israel. By 1975-1976, however, a near majority favored resettlement in the United States. While the government of Israel wanted all emigres to resettle in Israel, many American Jewish leaders supported “freedom of choice” — the right of Soviet Jewish emigres to choose their country of resettlement. In 1989, however, when Mikhail Gorbachev allowed free emigration for Soviet Jews and over 90 percent preferred to come to the United States, American Jewish leaders supported their government’s policy to limit the entry of Soviet Jews as political refugees.

Even before the monthly dropout [dropouts being Jewish refugees who were opting not to go to Israel] figure rose above 50 percent in March 1976, the situation alarmed the Israeli government. The Israelis and their supporters argued that Israel needed these highly skilled and well-educated potential immigrants for its survival. They could make an important contribution to Israel’s economic development and help in the demographic struggle between a declining Jewish majority and very fertile Arab minority.1

In the confrontation over dropouts, all parties assumed that most Soviet Jewish emigres would prefer to settle in Israel. Understated was a position articulated later by Gitelman, Salitan, and others that most emigres after 1973 preferred the United States with its perceived greater economic opportunities. Gitelman suggests that those Soviet Jews with stronger Jewish identities from the Baltics, Moldavia, and Georgia went to Israel, while more assimilated Jews from the Soviet heartland preferred the West. Most Soviet Jewish Zionists who only wanted to immigrate to Israel had done so by 1973. The overwhelming majority leaving after 1973 were motivated more by economic betterment than by Zionist ideology. They saw Israel as a very small market with fewer opportunities.

At the meeting on July 15, 1976, Max Fisher, Chairman of the Board of Governors, presented an American position which recommended that Soviet emigres who exited on Israel visas and dropped out should not be aided in Vienna. This policy would go into effect once Soviet Jews had sufficient time to learn about the new policy. Those not wanting to go to Israel would have to apply in the Soviet Union for visas to other countries on the basis of family reunification. American Jewish organizations would pressure their government for visas for family reunification and provide aid to the refugees coming to the United States. They would discourage non-Jewish American refugee support organizations from helping dropouts.

The Israelis may have influenced Douglas’s thinking on Soviet Jewish refugees. He met with Raphael Kotlowitz, head of the Immigration and Absorption Department of the Jewish Agency, and also discussed “dropouts” with Yehuda Lapidot, head of the Liaison Bureau. Rather than request a change in U.S. policy, Lapidot explained to Douglas the Israeli policy of invitations, which involved a commitment to absorb them and to give them citizenship. He also explained that the same policy existed for Romanian Jews who also arrived as immigrants to Israel. He asked Douglas why the United States did not consider them refugees too. Why was American policy different vis-a-vis Jews from the Soviet Union? Realizing that Soviet Jews had the alternative of immigrating to Israel in the context of an overburdened American refugee load may have led Douglas to reconsider the American policy of granting all Soviet Jewish emigres refugee status. He came to believe that it was in the best interest of both the United States and Israel to have the maximum number of Soviet Jews resettle in Israel.

At a dinner in November 1988, Undersecretary of State Richard Schifter suggested that the “United States may one day limit entry of Jews from the Soviet Union.” He emphasized that this was due to the large number of those being let out and “particularly when there is another country of refuge — Israel.” He also noted that much of the financial burden for resettling Soviet Jews would rest with American Jewry. Whereas Ambassador Douglas had suggested a similar policy in the early 1980s and met insurmountable opposition from American Jewish organizations, in 1989 the American Jewish establishment would support the new American restrictions on refugee status for most Soviet Jews. It would abandon freedom of choice.

Finally, in contrast to the 1970s, the American Jewish establishment in 1989 was more willing to support the Israeli demand that Soviet Jews be resettled in Israel. Many felt Israel needed them and that Israel provided a better opportunity for them to remain Jewish and part of the Jewish people. Costs were also less and it was easier to raise money among American Jews to resettle Soviet Jews in Israel than in the United States.

In recalling this period many years later, several Jewish lay leaders and professionals argued that they and the majority of American Jewry remained committed to freedom of choice; that Soviet Jews were entitled to choose where they wanted to live. We may prefer that they go to Israel, they argued, but we cannot decide for them. To a great extent, however, by 1989 the CJF leadership and the American Jewish establishment had qualified and then abandoned their support for freedom of choice.

Soviet Jews exiting after November 6, 1989, would not be allowed to apply for visas as refugees at American Embassies in Europe. In addition, aid for dropouts in Europe from HIAS and JDC would be curtailed. This “ended” the dropout phenomena. According to Rabbi Israel Miller, the dropout problem “was resolved by the United States Government by creating a quota.”

This arrangement of a two-track system in Moscow resulted in Israel becoming, “by default, the destination for the vast majority of Jews seeking refuge.” With the opening of the gates in 1989, most Soviet Jewish emigres chose to go to Israel. Almost 400,000 did so between 1989 and 1992. Far fewer went to the United States.

For the time being, the Soviets did not allow direct flights to Israel. To make sure that Soviet Jewish emigres did not drop out, Israel took the precaution of flying them via Eastern European countries. These countries did not allow emigrants to stay and agreed not to raise issues of freedom of choice. The Jewish Agency and Liaison Bureau set up transit sites in Bucharest, Warsaw, and Budapest. By the 1980s the American Jewish establishment supported “direct flights” via Communist countries. They were aware that this denied all participants the option of dropping out on their way to Israel.”

A few years back, we had a lot of burglaries in the Hollywood hills. The police were flummoxed. Driving out of my friends apartment in the area of concern, I notice an spent out looking Eastern European guy standing in front of his building. I said, "you see that guy? There's your burglary problem."
He says, "how do you know?" I said "because I know a Russian or an Eastern European fresh off the boat when I see em. You've got fresh eurotrash living in some apartment in the area, and they're organized."
Long story short, the police held stake outs, and found that it was exactly as I'd said.
The Russians they could catch were prosecuted, their apartments raided, and the burglaries stopped. But not before one of em got into my friends gated parking area, and relieved one of the tenants of their Beemer at gunpoint.
They're pretty easy to pick out, since the don't know how to blend in, aside from being white. Shitty clothes or track suits, gold chains, greased back hair, stupid look on their face, etc.
If you see the likes of them hanging in an expensive neighborhood, its not good.
Luckily, they think they blend in, but they don't. All you have to do is pay attention, and call the cops when you see them hanging around.

Tragically for Bill Cosby’s son, he didn’t haul out of there when changing his tire in the Hollywood Hills.

“Between 1989 and 2006, about 1.6 million Soviet Jews and their non-Jewish relatives and spouses, as defined by the Law of Return, emigrated from former Soviet Union.[1] About 979,000, or 61%, migrated to Israel. Another 325,000 migrated to the United States, and 219,000 migrated to Germany.[2][3] According to the Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics, 240,000 of the immigrants who arrived in Israel, or 26%, were not considered Jewish by Orthodox interpretations of Jewish law (which only recognizes matrilineal descent), but were eligible for Israeli citizenship under the Law of Return due to patrilineal Jewish descent or marriage to a Jew.”

“Orthodox interpretations of Halakha recognize only matrilineal descent. However, the Law of Return qualifies anyone who has a Jewish grandparent, or is married to a Jew. As a result of this discrepancy, the immigration wave included many people who were not considered Jews by the Israeli Rabbinate, such as children of a Jewish father and non-Jewish mother, grandchildren of Jews, or non-Jewish spouses of Jews, who were eligible under the Law of Return. In 1988, a year before the immigration wave began, 58% of married Jewish men and 47% of married Jewish women in the Soviet Union had a non-Jewish spouse.[25] Some 26%, or 240,000, of the immigrants had no Jewish mother, and were thus not considered Jewish under Halakha, or Jewish religious law, which stipulates one must have a Jewish mother to be considered Jewish. This causes problems when they wish to marry, as in Israel marriage arrangements for all religious communities are made by the relevant religious authorities, and in the case of Jewish citizens, only by Orthodox rabbis. This leads many to marry abroad in civil ceremonies, as civil marriages conducted outside Israel are recognized upon the couple’s return.[26]”

“At the start of the mass immigration, almost all those immigrating from the former USSR were considered Jews under Halakha. The proportion of those who were not considered Jewish by Orthodox interpretations of Halakha among the immigrants consistently rose throughout the immigration wave. For example, in 1990 around 96% of the immigrants were Jews and only 4% were non-Jewish family members. However, in 2000, the proportion was: Jews – 47%, non-Jewish spouses of Jews – 14%, children from Jewish father and non-Jewish mother – 17%, non-Jewish spouses of children from Jewish father and non-Jewish mother – 6%, non-Jews with a Jewish grandparent – 14% and non-Jewish spouses of non-Jews with a Jewish grandparent – 2%.”

Actually to judge from the list of signees, a lot of them are NOT professional physicists nor could they even be construed as physicists in any sense. But no matter, their opinions - no better than any one elses on the matter - will be accorded extra deference by the I-f**king-love-science-despite-not-knowing-anything-about-it crowd. Yeah! Science, bitch!

“Instead, we embrace the assumption that minority physics students are brilliant”

Yup, that’s what science is all about, embracing assumptions. Reminds me of that old Albert Einstein quote ‘embrace your own reality, verification is for losers . . .’

They don't just assume. They offer proof, in the form of footnotes. The "proof" that black children are brilliant at physics (well at least math) is given as this book:

[6] Leonard, Jacquelyn, and Martin, Danny B. (Eds.). The Brilliance of Black Children in Mathematics: Beyond the Numbers and Toward New Discourse

This book is a #1 best seller on Amazon (as long as we award it 1,561,245 affirmative action points). You can tell from the title that black kids are really brilliant at math so long as you teach it to them in a culturally appropriate way and leave out all those pesky numbers and symbols.

The New York Times has an interesting map about Trump's Republican support across the Nation. The Trump Belt basically tracks Appalachia into the Deep South. Trump's support is strongest in West Virginia and then New York State. He seems particularly popular in North Carolina, and the Deep South States of Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana. It would be interesting if there was a Scots-Irish aspect to Trump support as he is the son of the Outer Hebrides. Louisiana makes sense for some strange reason as they have a penchant for "Big Man" politics and larger than life characters, but Alabama and Mississippi supporting a Yankee is interesting.

Seems like Trump is popular with "Former Californians" in Oregon, Nevada, Arizona and perhaps Hawaii. In general, Trump polls well in California, admittedly these are California Republicans. The same can be said about Hawaiian Republicans and New York Republicans.

Trump polls worst in the Mountain West. In particular, the Republican stronghold of Utah has no time for him. I assume his larger than life persona that helps him in Louisiana and New York gets little mileage in more milquetoast and sane Utah. It would seem that the Mountain West with the least exposure to the wonders of Diversity are the States least interested in Trump's message.

“Seems like Trump is popular with “Former Californians” in Oregon, Nevada, Arizona and perhaps Hawaii. In general, Trump polls well in California, admittedly these are California Republicans. The same can be said about Hawaiian Republicans and New York Republicans.”

Republicans living in California, Hawaii or New York are people who aren’t choosing sides because of social proof but have decided to be Republicans in places where they will experience blow back for doing so. That tells me they are more committed to their principles and are likely to take the enemy more seriously.

I've met a few women from the lands of the former Soviet Union b/c they work at the Jersey and Delaware seashore resorts during the summer and then never go home. Some of them drift to the Philly burbs after summer is over.

That’s what my wife did. Worked at a hotel on the Jersey Shore. Moved here in 2001. She put herself through Vaughn College (aviation) working at a gift shop on 5th Ave. She got a job at Lockheed as a contractor for FAA. Now she works at Port Authority.

In terms the authentic Jewishness of Russian "Jews" emigrating to Israel in the '90s, I suspect it may have been relatively easy for the Israeli immigration officials to tell. I know that the Belarussian passport used in the '90's listed the holder's ethnicity. "Jewish" was one of those ethnicities. The same may have been true of Russian passports of that era (but not currently), since this was a practice held over from the USSR. How the ethnicity was determined by the passport office is another story, I suppose.

Speaking only of the immigrant Russian Jewish women I know, they all look unequivocally Ashkenazi, as if they'd just stepped out of a Gustav Klimt painting (e.g. Adele Bloch-Bauer). Their notable character traits include intelligence, warmth, honesty, moderation, and an uncanny aesthetic sense. They seem to have none of the bitter sharpness or odd superstitions of ethnic Russians. They do gravitate towards other Russian Jews and non-Russian former SSR types (Georgians, Armenians...) but they are not exclusive, readily forming friendships with your typical educated American. The best social event I've ever attended was a quasi-secular Russian Jewish wedding. Everyone went out of their way to make us feel welcome. The joie de vivre at that event was pretty overwhelming. Providing that the sisters Chernykh were the exception proving the rule, we could do with more Russian Jewish immigrants.

we could do with more Russian Jewish immigrants.

Yeah, because you can never have enough Medicaid fraud, welfare scams, car insurance scams and human trafficking.

"Instead, we embrace the assumption that minority physics students are brilliant"

Yup, that's what science is all about, embracing assumptions. Reminds me of that old Albert Einstein quote 'embrace your own reality, verification is for losers . . .'

They don’t just assume. They offer proof, in the form of footnotes. The “proof” that black children are brilliant at physics (well at least math) is given as this book:

[6] Leonard, Jacquelyn, and Martin, Danny B. (Eds.). The Brilliance of Black Children in Mathematics: Beyond the Numbers and Toward New Discourse

This book is a #1 best seller on Amazon (as long as we award it 1,561,245 affirmative action points). You can tell from the title that black kids are really brilliant at math so long as you teach it to them in a culturally appropriate way and leave out all those pesky numbers and symbols.

I quickly scanned that manifesto and as soon as I saw the term "institutional racism" aka phlogiston, my eyes glazed over and I knew that these "scientists" were simply invoking appeals to the unmeasurable. Would scientists do that?

“Would scientists do that?”

Sadly, yes. A lot of physicists, outside of their own field of expertise, are rather dull doctrinaire liberals.

Perhaps third world immigrants (headed up by a respectably-paid patriarch, as opposed to East African cab drivers) are the only group in America (of those able to afford it) for whom the gaudy consumer experience of a tacky, generic shopping mall is actually still exciting? Most whites I know, even outside of the SWPL urban bubble, find this sort of thing as exhausting, stressful and dehumanizing as I do, and resort to it because they really need to buy some new houseware or other annoying-to-order-online item. As opposed to newly economically empowered third worlders, for whom it remains a great day out (and provides lots of opportunities to post to social media for their relatives back at home, who will no doubt be here as well in a few years).

It reminds me of a recurring theme on this blog: third world immigrants, both at the relatively high IQ end (Indian business analysts and systems engineers), through the criminally-inclined (former soviets) to the mestizo end, have incredibly poor taste and aesthetic sensibilities by the standards of modern SWPLs.

Uhm my IQ is about 120 (admittedly lower than Einstein) and I find malls a good place to stroll around provided it is not the peak season/hours?

Someone(s) has been tinkering with US immigration policy since the 1960s to slant it in the direction of these floppers and shoppers in particular, and to the exclusion of other kinds of potential Americans.

"All grasping federal government" and "mega corp sponsors" strikes me as as metonymy: exactly WHO in these institutions--whether constituted by law or invented by corporate charter--has this influence?

There are power brokers and spin masters, those who benefit more or less, those whose visions are articulated and those whose visions (and concerns) are suppressed.

That is what needs to be mapped and articulated. These relations of power, these actual acts.

We've only gotten as far, as a republic, as having people like Mark Krikorian and Roy Beck pointing out that there *IS* a problem, despite the assertions of the propaganda masters.

Naming the problem is hard enough. Start naming names about who might benefit from this redefinition of the US and replacement of its founding stock, even in the spirit of formulating testable hypotheses, and the accusations of racism, anti-Semitism, xenophobia, Islamophobia, etc., come fast and furious.

Which is why, e.g., this crucial, rich, complex, and potentially explosive area of inquiry has not been taken up by tenured researchers sinecured in The Ed Biz. They have no problem, e.g., tracing out the evolution of telcoms consent decrees or "domestic abuse" law...or various Studies Studies topics, like the legitimacy of Fifty Shades as Art, or Lady Gaga's tweets to its fanbase.

The USA was an HBD experiment by a very gifted group of people FOR others with those gifts or capable of quickly emulating or developing them. The idea since 1965 that the US is a mercantile enterprise open to all tired poor huddled fleecable-for-profit comers arrived in my experience (Northeast metropolis, 1960s to 1980s) with Russian and other Jews in the big Jewish immigrations of the late 1800s--when they comprised a huge portion for several years of total immigrants.

What I call real Americans do have regional and ethnic pride, and a sense of roots. They do not perceive themselves as people in diaspora, but people seeking to re-establish those roots.

The problem with HBD is that you could use it to justify genocide on the grounds of the higher IQ group having the right to get rid of the lower IQ group in the most efficient way possible? While nationalism, like white nationalism is more about we want to like the way we are, and IQ arguments are only secondary in nature?

Yes, Raful Eitan is Subbotnik on both sides but Sharon is so on his mother's side:

Sharon was born on February 26, 1928 in Kfar Malal, an agricultural moshav, then in the British Mandate of Palestine, to Shmuel Scheinerman (1896–1956) of Brest-Litovsk and Vera (née Schneirov) Scheinerman (1900–1988) of Mogilev.[14] His parents met while at university in Tiflis (now Tbilisi, Republic of Georgia), where Sharon's father was studying agronomy and his mother was studying medicine. His mother, Vera, was from a family of Russian Subbotnik Jewish origin.[15]
[Wikipedia]

Thanks, but I suspect that that’s wrong. If Wikipedia is the only cite, I’ll stick to my doubts.

That presupposes they are satisfied with their station in life. I doubt this. Adventuress is pretty apt for a couple of gals who have crossed several borders and dated several men when it has been to their advantage. Not forgetting the deceit of at least the younger sister.

The only heartwarming part is that you have Jews and Muslims dating on a regular basis. Who said the peace process was dead.

Ah but you are missing the great point. Russian women are notorious for requiring BEEEG A-holes. Not just your standard grade jerks. BEEEG! Jerks. Bad boys. A-holes. A-holeness to a whole other level. Like Chechen level even.

If these Russian women had wanted money, well Silicon Valley is filled with nerds with money. But they never touched them. Heck they could have landed an up and coming Hollywood writer, on the theory that a strong female hand guiding them could turn a C lister screenwriter into an A lister producer. But they did not choose that.

Instead, what did two pretty young women with no money and no real support choose — the brother of a Jihadi who was low rent — his father a retired truck driver; and a Latino layabout, the latter with which the younger one had a child.

Here’s the perfect test case for the failure of beta male provision. Not even Uber, Lyft, and Dropbox money could persuade two attractive Russian women to stomach White beta male nerdiness — instead they chose two swarthy but dominant A-holes. Tingles uber alles. Heck not even the allure of Hollywood fame, of being maybe the wife of a big time producer could make them stomach the SWPL lack of uber-A-hole testosterone.

If Weed is the big vice of the male millenial generation, then A-hole testosterone is that of its women. There is enough money to be made for even relative failures scamming the system that beta male provisioning is worthless while Alpha male a-holeness is cost-less.

Something to ponder — as Jewish women shun anything but swarthy A-holes like the Russian women who probably are not Jewish, what will the Jewish male response be? Double down on the beta male strategy or Alpha Up via technology, including testosterone enhancement, artificial personality enhancement (don’t laugh, its already a DARPA project), and sex bots? Or simply switch gears and demand deportation of all the Alpha A-holes on the theory of likely scamming (true) and terrorism (at least probable for many).

1. Those girls look Jewish. (Russian Jews look different than German Jews, which most American Jews are)
2. Their father looks really Jewish
3. Russian Jews hooking up with a Pakistani Muslim isn’t unusual. The Pakistani may actually have more in common with the Russians than most American men would. It’s entirely possible she saw feminized American men as pussy boys. Besides, he’s a good looking war hero.

Yes, Raful Eitan is Subbotnik on both sides but Sharon is so on his mother's side:

Sharon was born on February 26, 1928 in Kfar Malal, an agricultural moshav, then in the British Mandate of Palestine, to Shmuel Scheinerman (1896–1956) of Brest-Litovsk and Vera (née Schneirov) Scheinerman (1900–1988) of Mogilev.[14] His parents met while at university in Tiflis (now Tbilisi, Republic of Georgia), where Sharon's father was studying agronomy and his mother was studying medicine. His mother, Vera, was from a family of Russian Subbotnik Jewish origin.[15]
[Wikipedia]

If she was really born a Schneirov from Mogilev, she wasn’t a subbotnik by any stretch of the imagination.

They don't just assume. They offer proof, in the form of footnotes. The "proof" that black children are brilliant at physics (well at least math) is given as this book:

[6] Leonard, Jacquelyn, and Martin, Danny B. (Eds.). The Brilliance of Black Children in Mathematics: Beyond the Numbers and Toward New Discourse

This book is a #1 best seller on Amazon (as long as we award it 1,561,245 affirmative action points). You can tell from the title that black kids are really brilliant at math so long as you teach it to them in a culturally appropriate way and leave out all those pesky numbers and symbols.

What about “The Brilliance of Pygmies at the Centre Position in Basketball: Beyond the Height and Toward New Discourse”?

Voronezh was precisely the center of the Subbotnik movement. Hair dyed or not, the girls register zero on my Jewdar for actual Ashkenazi ancestry.

Since Jewish descent is matrilineal, as long as their maternal grandmother was Jewish (in turn had a Jewish mother) the rest doesn't matter, but I'm still voting for a Subbotnik claim.

Israel hasn't really looked that hard at the Soviet "Jews" - they figure that if you identify as Jewish that's one more for their team and anyway your kids will grow up as Zionists in a Jewish atmosphere, serve in the Israeli army, etc. so whatever residue of Christianity you had (e.g. posing under a Christmas tree) will fade away in a generation or two. Sharon is the ultimate example. Many Russian "Christians" are atheist anyway and having emigrated to Israel as supposed Jews are in no position to attend church or associate themselves with organized Christianity.

As I mentioned before, this area was part of historic (pre- Polish annexation) Russia and historically would not have had any Jews (other than Subbotniks) but of course in the Soviet period things got all mixed up.

Indeed, our merdia, to use the appropriate French moniker,
cannot be expected to pay attention to such trivial matters.
They are white, after all, so who cares?

But seriously, although most of the commenters concerned
themselves with the recent post-’90 Russian immigrants,
the vast majority of the immigrants from the Soviet bloc
prior to 1990 were from Poland, and they still form a
thriving community in So Cal, centered to some extent
around the church of Our Lady of the Bright Mount on
Adams Blvd in LA. The church, by the way, was partly
funded by Liberace (who was half-Polish), the entertainer
par excellence who at the time was one of the richest people
in show business.
The problem is that the U.S. has about 10 million Polish
Americans but they’ve been here so long (first settlers came
on the Mayflower, and major settlements started in Texas
around 1800) that they’re thoroughly assimilated, and so
largely invisible. Probably 3/4 changed names through
marriage or simplification: Congressman Rostenkowski’s
daughter shortened it to Rosten. How many people would
recognize Martha Stewart (née Kostyra), Meg Ryan (née Hyra),
Pat Benatar (née Andrzejewski) or Pat Sajak, for that
matter, as Polish?

In So Cal there are hundreds of thousands of Polish
Americans, born here or immigrants, typically well
educated and solidly middle class. They fund the annual
Polish Film Festival in Los Angeles and the Polish Music
Center at USC – devoted to more recent composers like
Szymanowski, Penderecki, Paderewski or Gorecki.

I’ve met a Polish woman who came here at the age of 10,
and today is a multimillionaire, thanks to wise investments
in California real estate. A UCLA degree didn’t hurt either.

Many Polish Jews whom I’ve met in So Cal, who have immigrated
here from Poland in the last few decades, prefer not to associate
with the American-born Jews and either stick to themselves or
have close relations with the Polish immigrants. It’s no secret that
thousands of Polish Jews have double passports, and visit Poland
repeatedly.

As to the Russian immigrants, I saw a big influx of Russian students
at my university, starting in the mid-’90s, but after 2005 they seem
to have vanished. A couple of Russian girls were cleaning my university
office once, around 1997, and the first question they asked was, “Are
you married?” Similarly, I hear many of the 500,000 Ukrainians who
are in Poland on short-term work visas are hoping to snag a Polish
husband, particularly since the Ukrainian economy continues to
be in free fall. Will more Russian women start coming to Poland now
that Russia is going through a severe recession? Both Russia and
Ukraine have enormous surpluses of women, going into millions,
due to the short life expectancy of Russian and Ukrainian males.

Hold it, hold it. Charles Bronson was Lithuanian, not a tatar. The Baltic region was too far north for the Tatars who generally resided much further south, toward the Crimea area, Mongolia, etc.

Charles Bronson is part Tatar on his mother’s side. She was descendant of Tatar’s that stayed in Lithuania & converted. Were famous cavalry soldiers for the Poland/Lithuania kingdom against Russia. Golden Hordes got farther than most realize, sacked Kiev. Almost got to to Novgorod.

The problem with HBD is that you could use it to justify genocide on the grounds of the higher IQ group having the right to get rid of the lower IQ group in the most efficient way possible? While nationalism, like white nationalism is more about we want to like the way we are, and IQ arguments are only secondary in nature?

You can use anything to justify genocide if justifying genocide is your goal.

What’s your point?

It’s certainly not informed by much comprehension of population genetics….

There wasn't a buried lede, there was no lede - when is Maria being deported for engaging in a sham marriage? Weren't the reporters interested in that question? They already have Enrique admitting to engaging in marriage fraud. Maria is the "Great White Illegal" that can be used as a poster-child for deportation. You'd think that the press, depressed at their bad luck at never hitting blackjack for the "Great White Defendent" in murder and rape cases or the "Great White Terrorist" would jump at the chance to highlight the "Great White Illegal" and yet they don't want to lift the lid on this issue and write about deporting Maria.

Come now, Tango.

Sham Marriages are a politically correct growth industry in the US now.

USA as flophouse/shopping mall. Ask a native white or black American in my home state where they live and they tell you, "Atlanta," or "Dahlonega" or "Brunswick." Americans are apt to express regional pride: the South, the Appalachians, out West.

But to immigrants it's all one undifferentiated, AMERICA!, and they gravitate to wherever their patronage networks are or the green card-spouse, etc. and drift around from there. Never really settling in, adopting a consumerist, shallow, secular lifestyle. The perfect ciitizens for an all-grasping federal government and its mega-corp sponsors.

“USA as flophouse/shopping mall.”

Actually, it’s a vending machine. You really need to keep up here.

“Ask a native white or black American in my home state where they live and they tell you, “Atlanta,” or “Dahlonega” or “Brunswick.” Americans are apt to express regional pride: the South, the Appalachians, out West.”

Actually, the PEOPLE I know, white, black, Hispanic, da Joos, who are citizens of the U.S. express their pride in a variety of ways, stating where they live, their backgrounds. You’re being your typical obtuse self again.

“The perfect ciitizens for an all-grasping federal government and its mega-corp sponsors.”**

Since 1607! In all seriousness, you really should trademark this line**. Perfect for your “replacement stock” zombies that seem to gravitate toward your insight.

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