Amazing how right-wing extremists never have any desire to work to solve issues but, rather, just want to "pick up their toys and go home" when they don't get their way. Obstructionists from the start.

averagenotjoe wrote:Instead of a new state, how about joining one of the border states?

If you were them, would YOU want to be part of Nebraska or Kansas? :mrgreen:

There are good people in both of those states just like there are good people here. If they would be better served being part of one of those states, yes I would want to be part of one of those states.

When Bill Clinton said he didn't have sexual relations with that woman, he didn't mean Monica.

Weld County Commissioners...what an embarrassment. Looking for media attention with a stupid idea. They do realize that if they are complaining there is no money to fix roads, why would they waste even more on a special vote that has no way of passing yet alone actually doing anything? If Weld can't afford road repairs or money for their schools what makes them think they can be an independent state? These commissioners are on their way out and struggling to justify their positions. Vote the stupid out!!

Politicians sinking to new lows. Acting like spoiled children who don't get their way. I got news for Mr. Corey Gardner: Nobody took your damn guns away. Nobody has taken any energy from fracking away. Everybody in the urban areas of Colorado are reaping the rewards of having to pay a coupla bucks more for their electricity. It's time the rural folks got on that train as well.

Get over yourselves and your feigned bluster. We are all Coloradoans. We breathe the same air, we drink the same water. We all enjoy our beautiful state whose population is increasing and you idiots who want to "increase your political capital" are going to bankrupt the political system if you don't wake up and realize that your childish impudence causes great harm to all of us.

melekalikimaka wrote:Weld County Commissioners...what an embarrassment. Looking for media attention with a stupid idea. They do realize that if they are complaining there is no money to fix roads, why would they waste even more on a special vote that has no way of passing yet alone actually doing anything? If Weld can't afford road repairs or money for their schools what makes them think they can be an independent state? These commissioners are on their way out and struggling to justify their positions. Vote the stupid out!!

Is there any opposition to secession?

I see people typing that Weld county is stupid, but does anybody have a care or a reason why Weld should remain in Colorado?

globalexplorer wrote:Amazing how right-wing extremists never have any desire to work to solve issues but, rather, just want to "pick up their toys and go home" when they don't get their way. Obstructionists from the start.

So they want to leave but they also obstruct? Do you realize how ignorant that comes across?

globalexplorer wrote:Amazing how right-wing extremists never have any desire to work to solve issues but, rather, just want to "pick up their toys and go home" when they don't get their way. Obstructionists from the start.

And how exactly do you "solve issues" when your political leaders either ignore you (but they are happy to cash the checks) or refuse to give you straight answer?

Amazing how Liberals never want to solve issues either. With them it is either "my way or the highway". Well.. so be it.

Weld County's bid to divorce Colorado and form its own state is a powerful rebuke of Front Range interests that no longer align with rural parts of the state, supporters of the idea say.

Agreed! Weld County is certainly on to something, considering much of the idiotic legislation advanced by the liberal legislature and signed into law by the Hickster. Maybe Weld County doesn't want to be "blue". If in fact this does occur, I'll be relocating.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------DEFINITION OF INSANITY“Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured, but not everyone must prove they are a citizen.”“And now, any of those who refuse, or are unable, to prove they are citizens will receive free insurance paid for by those who are forced to buy insurance because they are citizens” Ben Stein

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." -- Thomas Jefferson

Could we expand this to include the Western Slope? In fact, segregate Denver and Boulder north up through Fort Collins, and almost the entire rest of the state would be fighting to join the new group.

In fact, some Denver's SUBURBS would want in. You think Douglas County and Colorado Springs like being ruled by the political culture of Denver and Boulder? Aside from Pueblo and Aspen, I can see the rest of the state warming very nicely to the idea.

Isolated in that manner, the Denver-to-Fort Collins corridor could go ahead and liberalize their little enclave until it looked like Northern California (with ALL the disfunctions). The rest of us would go about our business and structure a government that was actually FOR the People and by the People. And we'd take the prosperity with us.

Weld County's bid to divorce Colorado and form its own state is a powerful rebuke of Front Range interests that no longer align with rural parts of the state, supporters of the idea say.

Agreed! Weld County is certainly on to something, considering much of the idiotic legislation advanced by the liberal legislature and signed into law by the Hickster. Maybe Weld County doesn't want to be "blue". If in fact this does occur, I'll be relocating.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------DEFINITION OF INSANITY“Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured, but not everyone must prove they are a citizen.”“And now, any of those who refuse, or are unable, to prove they are citizens will receive free insurance paid for by those who are forced to buy insurance because they are citizens” Ben Stein

We shall see how the VOTE comes out, and I am thinking it will be a huge YES, and the same in most of the other counties named! We would be happy to have ya Jake.

The voters of Weld Co. should be mad. There is a way to solve that problem under the U.S. Constitution and the Colorado Constitution. Win elections. When Wayne Allard spent 12 years in the Senate and deregulated the banking industry while sitting on the Banking Committee. People remember the day that they had a home with value and a 401(k) account with money in it. But the huge banks took that money with the help of insurance companies and too big to fail banks. Allard and Gov. Owens selected George Bush and told Coloradoans to support him. Bush started three undeclared wars and spend trillions of dollars without Wayne Allard ever mentioning that the Constitution of the United States says that Congress shall declare War. Now Governor Hickenlooper has punched the republicans right in the eye over and over. Sean Conway should step up and run for office. He has been a government bureaucrat his entire life. Run Sean Run. But he cannot win. There is no Republican State Party. His good friend Dick Wadhams ruined that. So run around and recall people. Talk about forming your own state. Have a bunch of hearings. Or get a candidate like Cory Gardner or Sean Conway to run against Hickenlooper and Udall. That is what the constitutions provide. But that would require courage. Something lacking in Mr. Conway and Mr. Gardner.

maverick6436 wrote:Could we expand this to include the Western Slope? In fact, segregate Denver and Boulder north up through Fort Collins, and almost the entire rest of the state would be fighting to join the new group.

In fact, some Denver's SUBURBS would want in. You think Douglas County and Colorado Springs like being ruled by the political culture of Denver and Boulder? Aside from Pueblo and Aspen, I can see the rest of the state warming very nicely to the idea.

Isolated in that manner, the Denver-to-Fort Collins corridor could go ahead and liberalize their little enclave until it looked like Northern California (with ALL the disfunctions). The rest of us would go about our business and structure a government that was actually FOR the People and by the People. And we'd take the prosperity with us.

Bring it!!

Yeah.

This is good idea.

The liberals have disdain and disrespect for rural America, so I can't see why they would object.

Certainly they don't want us in their hood ...so what better way to please everybody than secession?

Let's see how they do raising a tax base for trivial things like roads, health care, etc....

Yep, it's fascinating how anti-tax some folks can be. Except when it comes to the things that they immediately see as benefiting them....

It's fascinating listening to "any concern about government spending/direction of tax dollars=anti-tax" strawmen concocted by lefties who can't engage in an actual discussion of logic and ideas. Brought to you by the party of dirty water, dirty air, and grandmas pushed over cliffs.

It's a little tough to bring logic to a discussion where the best idea folks can bring to the table is *seceding from the state!* And, this isn't "'any concern"; this is *seceding from the state!* In the words of the internet meme, "That escalated quickly."

delnorteknight wrote:Politicians sinking to new lows. Acting like spoiled children who don't get their way. I got news for Mr. Corey Gardner: Nobody took your damn guns away. Nobody has taken any energy from fracking away. Everybody in the urban areas of Colorado are reaping the rewards of having to pay a coupla bucks more for their electricity. It's time the rural folks got on that train as well.

Get over yourselves and your feigned bluster. We are all Coloradoans. We breathe the same air, we drink the same water. We all enjoy our beautiful state whose population is increasing and you idiots who want to "increase your political capital" are going to bankrupt the political system if you don't wake up and realize that your childish impudence causes great harm to all of us.

Wow...Calma Downa...Everyone has the right to question their government or create a new one.

newman53 wrote:The voters of Weld Co. should be mad. There is a way to solve that problem under the U.S. Constitution and the Colorado Constitution. Win elections. When Wayne Allard spent 12 years in the Senate and deregulated the banking industry while sitting on the Banking Committee. People remember the day that they had a home with value and a 401(k) account with money in it. But the huge banks took that money with the help of insurance companies and too big to fail banks. Allard and Gov. Owens selected George Bush and told Coloradoans to support him. Bush started three undeclared wars and spend trillions of dollars without Wayne Allard ever mentioning that the Constitution of the United States says that Congress shall declare War. Now Governor Hickenlooper has punched the republicans right in the eye over and over. Sean Conway should step up and run for office. He has been a government bureaucrat his entire life. Run Sean Run. But he cannot win. There is no Republican State Party. His good friend Dick Wadhams ruined that. So run around and recall people. Talk about forming your own state. Have a bunch of hearings. Or get a candidate like Cory Gardner or Sean Conway to run against Hickenlooper and Udall. That is what the constitutions provide. But that would require courage. Something lacking in Mr. Conway and Mr. Gardner.

Newman, A little windy here, but you are 100 % correct. Allard did sell us out. Colorado is a blue state now because of people like Allard and Andrews and the Republicans that had a majority in the legislature for 40 years. Funny that the folks in Denver didn't run around pouting about not getting their way during those times

maverick6436 wrote:Could we expand this to include the Western Slope? In fact, segregate Denver and Boulder north up through Fort Collins, and almost the entire rest of the state would be fighting to join the new group.

In fact, some Denver's SUBURBS would want in. You think Douglas County and Colorado Springs like being ruled by the political culture of Denver and Boulder? Aside from Pueblo and Aspen, I can see the rest of the state warming very nicely to the idea.

Isolated in that manner, the Denver-to-Fort Collins corridor could go ahead and liberalize their little enclave until it looked like Northern California (with ALL the disfunctions). The rest of us would go about our business and structure a government that was actually FOR the People and by the People. And we'd take the prosperity with us.

Bring it!!

"Denver-to-Fort Collins corridor could go ahead and liberalize their little enclave until it looked like Northern California"