21:26:04 :vkn :A lady purchased the building previously owned by the Lucius funeral home and found this book with 300 records

21:26:20 :Art :What good fortune

21:26:30 :vkn :brought them to Anniston Library where I volunteer So we made a bound copy for use and I of course have a copy for Afrigeneas

21:28:36 :rcs :slow and steady wins the race....all th epeople who are going to figure out everything in three weeks are a trip

21:28:56 :vkn :Howdy Lynda. So glad to see ya

21:30:08 :rcs :I was just contacted last week by people responding to a query I posted over 6 months ago....and I was supposed to get my information to them asap

21:31:55 :vkn :There is a post now on beginners

21:32:16 :vkn :where person is trying to begin with great grandfather

21:33:19 :Art :that seems to be the trend vkn

21:33:25 :vkn :I responded with an assignment to complete and get back to us. Not sure if it will work or not.

21:33:48 :lyndam :At least it was on the beginners' board :)

21:34:13 :vkn :Not sure how much we help by just giving answers

21:34:22 :Art :good point lyndam....

21:34:22 :vkn :True Lynda

21:34:32 :vkn :ET Howdy

21:36:13 :Art :I think Denise has the right idea on "look-ups"....if she finds a "look-up" she tells them where it is Series, Roll # & page #...if they're really interested they will get it..if not nothing lost

21:36:36 :rcs :I have been doing less

21:36:52 :Art :Yep, I've noticed

21:36:56 :rcs :and only when there is enough info to make an ID likely But we've been busy at work too...cuts into internet time

21:37:44 :Art :It hurts when you give them something and they say " I have that"

21:38:05 :rcs :or they say "no, that's not the one"

21:38:21 :Art :makes me want to say ^&)(*%$$:)

21:38:21 :rcs :but no details to help out

21:38:23 :lyndam :Or ... His name was STEVEN, not STEPHEN!!

21:40:36 :Art :Hello Shell

21:42:50 :Shell_ :Is there a special topic this evening?

21:43:52 :ET :Not that I'm aware of...was supposed to touch on DNA...but, do you have a subject?

21:44:42 :Shell_ :No not really. I am still trying to understand the DNA, It's a little confusing to me.

21:45:04 :rcs :we're all trying just to stay awake waiting for you to excite us

21:45:56 :Shell_ :I need to try to stay awake myself .

21:47:18 :Art :DNA testing...it appears to be somethiing of a "money-maker" need to research agency and type of testing they are doing.

22:07:47 :CAK :Shell, there will always be a need to check original sources

22:08:12 :Shell_H :that's true.

22:08:21 :Art :For the Y-chromosome test don't you need to match against a "suspected" male ancestor in your direct line?

22:08:39 :vkn :CAK I smile as I read the thread this week about the "truth" in death records.

22:08:40 :rcs :to check/verify among possible cousins, I would agree

22:09:46 :vkn :And Art what about the adoptee who is without knowledge of the biological line.

22:10:36 :Art :I think that would be a "waste" vkn

22:11:11 :rcs :it could help verify a likely identified birth family

22:11:20 :Denise :yes

22:11:38 :vkn :Well I will follow the DNA approach closely at a distance lol

22:11:55 :Art :If there was a test bed of potential parents to match against, right?

22:12:10 :Denise :how many posts do we have archived where folks speak of being descended from a slave owner? Or an overseer?

22:13:08 :Art :right, so you would match against a sample from the owner or overseer not against all white people form england

22:13:12 :CAK :Denise, I don't know how many posts but g grandmother was the daughter of the overseer

22:13:15 :Denise :right

22:13:17 :rcs :back to Sally Hemming and family

22:13:23 :vkn :I trust what you beautiful people tell me and a bit of what I read. No interest to pursue it in my own research. I also would not question the results for those who go that route.

22:14:46 :Denise :actually - the research is quite amusing - especially for those folks wh harp about their "purity" and then find out (no surprise to us) that there is no such thing it all boils down to being human - mixed

22:15:22 :ET :vkn it appears that Art is trying to establish that for geneaolgy purposes, one needs a representative ancestor to get any really useful information...otherwise the results only show 'group' possiblities.

22:15:37 :vkn :i see I understand.

22:15:50 :Art :right ET

22:16:44 :rcs :And we can look at 2/3 of the AA in America and say Gee, they got some European and some African ancesters

22:16:58 :Denise :well - it can narroe down potentials - for example - if you showed Tay-sachs - you might have an Eastern european Jewish ancestor

22:17:21 :Denise :excuse my typing - can't find my glasses

22:18:09 :vkn :and so what if sickle cell shows in other groups, denise?

22:18:50 :Doll :hello all!

22:18:52 :rcs :yes indeed....back to the purity fallacy

22:19:14 :Art :excuse me vkn..it does in Mediterrains they call it Thallisemia

22:19:42 :Denise :vkn - cell sickling only indicates an ancestor came form a malarial area - of which there are many - not just Africa

22:20:10 :Doll :I have thallasemia

22:20:36 :vkn :Oh really Doll? How is it evidenced?

22:20:39 :Art :Really Doll?

22:20:59 :Doll :i have it in a mild form--trait
i found out after I had my first born
I had a sickle cell crisis

22:22:59 :ET :So...is sickle cell and thallasemia the same disease, or related diseases?

22:23:30 :Art :I'll defer to Doll

22:23:32 :Doll :As far as I know it is sickle cell related
It comes in the form of minor and major
i wear glasses because of this
my eye vessels hemorraghed some years ago

22:25:02 :Denise :the trait has also been found in those with Middle Eastern, Indian, Latin American, Native American, and Mediterranean heritage

22:25:15 :Doll :yes--Denise--because of mixed marriages

22:25:18 :Art :From a "racial" postion ET...Blacks or AA's can have either, but you don't hear of "whites" having sickle cell..as I understand it.

22:25:51 :Doll :My hemotologist told me some years ago
that some of my relatives were probably from northern africa
because of this condition

22:26:05 :vkn :Art It may not even be looked at to rule out in the non Black

22:27:17 :Denise :Asians have a sickling trait - the biologists I work with expalin it as simply a survival adaptation to malarial regions so did my Greek neighbor

22:27:37 :vkn :Denise we look to you, the anthropologist, to help us embrace all of the possibilities.

22:27:48 :Doll :most people who have sickle cell are immune from malaria

22:27:51 :ET :Well, I heard (recently) that the 'sickling' of the blood is some form of 'protective' occurence in folks who live in regions where there is Malaria (as Denise said earlier).

22:27:56 :Denise :I'm not a biologiacla anthropologist

22:28:06 :Art :Just a thought Doll....why not Italy or Sicily or Greece?

22:43:17 :Shell_H :Not much. Just excited about meeting the cousin. I am trying to organize mounds of papers so that they will make sense.

22:43:36 :vkn :Tell us more Shell

22:43:57 :Denise :I hear ya Shell

22:44:29 :vkn :Shell you said you found a cousin who has the same ancestral family lore as you?

22:44:42 :Shell_H :Well I have folders full of letters and research that I did but I didn't organize them well. I am starting to appreciate research notes more.
Yes. I new of him but I had never asked him how we were related. We are connected but he had the same oral history passed down in his family.

22:45:35 :vkn :( you are not alone in that, Shell)

22:45:48 :Denise :I need more hours in the day to organize - sigh

22:47:00 :Shell_H :I now have to go back and do all the census records with his surname to find the connection.

22:47:09 :vkn :Shell how does his story differ from yours?

22:47:31 :Denise :what surname Shell?

22:48:16 :Shell_H :He said that his grandmother was over 6 feet tall and that her father was African. Her surname was Jenkins.

22:48:34 :Denise :interesting

22:48:47 :Shell_H :He also was told the story about the Watutsi and the name change as a child.
His grandmother was also from the same city as my ancestor.
He remembered going there as a child. He doesn't know any names that would help me except the surname and all of his people are dead.

22:51:16 :vkn :Incidentally Shell I search a tiny leaf on my BELL-BENHAM tree in Talapoosa County AL for WARE-SUDDERS

22:52:12 :Shell_H :I am having alot of trouble with the census records. No one is where they are supposed to be there.

22:56:29 :Art :Shell, go to Heirtage Quest Census for 1860 & 1870...I did a search for alabama and folks born in Africa 1860 had 2...1870 had 187 with 3 in Tallapoosa County. surname of Connie, Crayton & Rev???

22:57:46 :Shell_H :My dad's side is a whole new story. I only found one family with their surname in the whole county.

22:57:57 :Denise :which surname?

22:58:07 :Shell_H :Binion

23:01:57 :vkn :Shell great pointers from Art
Tell us next week what you find on follow up
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23:04:31 :vkn :Lynda are you ready to tell us a bit about what you will be doing in May? Doing as far as chat goes

23:05:48 :lyndam :I have a couple of 'guest' lined up for Chat sessions in May

23:06:22 :Denise :what night?

23:06:42 :lyndam :Looking...Preliminary: Wednesday, May 14?
Audrey Westerman will be speaking on South Louisiana research
In June, Judy Riffel of La Raconteur - genealogical society will speak on AA Beginning research - and Resources
She teaches and is a volunteer at the Louisiana State Archives - "Friends of the Archives"
Has been teaching = and helping AA's with their Louisiana research Using Public records - got many back to 'Africa'
I'm hoping to get a few more lined up for June and July

244 :vkn :That is super great Lynda
We will listen to hear more and we will wait on you to tell us when to get the promo out