Comments on: Should the Cubs get rid of their historic scoreboard?http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/22/should-the-cubs-get-rid-of-their-historic-scoreboard/
Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball.Tue, 31 Mar 2015 22:37:28 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: El Bravohttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/22/should-the-cubs-get-rid-of-their-historic-scoreboard/comment-page-1/#comment-460721
Fri, 22 Mar 2013 21:25:43 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460721I’ve only been to Cit Bank park once, but it was extremely fun and there were no notable douches. Philly does get a bad rap but that’s b/c those isolated incicdents are so friggin’ ridiculous, crude, mean, violent, and/or hilarious.
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Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:20:01 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460641I’m fairly certain this is satire of Wrigleyville alderman Tom Tunney proposing on the 21st that the Cubs tear down the scoreboard to put up a video board there, and therefore not block the view of the neighboring rooftop owners. The owners who just happen to be his most consistent campaign contributors.

The scoreboard’s got landmark status, to the point that the Cubs can’t even list every game being played on there.

Eventually, from what I can tell, there’s going to be a video board out in left field, with the Toyota sign moving. Tunney will whine, the Cubs will threaten the move to Rosemont, and eventually they’ll get to do in Wrigley what the other 29 teams can do in their ballparks.

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Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:17:51 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460636That scoreboard is not a good thing. It is an old thing. And it is terrible.
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Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:16:50 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460633He’s right. I don’t know what the thumbs-down are for. If I want to know who is in the visiting team’s bullpen, it makes sense to use a cell phone. If there’s some second-year outfielder I’ve never heard of who is having a great game, it makes sense to use my cell phone to see who he is. I can do these things and watch the game. Easily.

The assumption — and I’m putting words in your brain — is that I’d only use a cell phone to post a photo on facebook. But I’m reasonably likely to want to know who their lefty specialist is, and how well he does against righties. There’s no scorecard in the world that would have that information.

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Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:03:41 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460615I think Wrigley is a great place. I’ve been there once, and I tend to favor the classics. But that scoreboard is an abomination. It does not contain useful information. It was terrible when it was created, and it’s worse now given our understanding of statistics.

I don’t need VORP up there. But something about the current pitchers being a lefty or how many runs he’s allowed? The position of the batter? How many stolen bases he has? These aren’t nerd-o statistics, and that scoreboard has no space for them. I don’t need a jumbotron — I need something that helps me understand the game taking place in front of me, and the Wrigley Scoreboard, classic though it may be, fails utterly on that count.

It wastes space with line scores from out-of-town games and the numbers of the umpiring crew and yet doesn’t have anything from the game you’re watching beyond runs and hits.

It’s a bad scoreboard. It’s been a bad scoreboard for 75-plus years. There’s no good reason to save it.

Granted these are two extremely different examples, but look at what the rule changes are doing to the NFL. Now you’re talking about making one of sports all time classic, beautiful, historic, iconic, etc… ballparks more modern!

Please, just leave things the way they are.

Fans have smart phones and radios. If they are so thirsty for this kind of information they can surely find it without having to compromise Wrigley.

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Fri, 22 Mar 2013 18:38:22 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460548Have you ever been to a sporting event in Philly? I have my fun with the Phaithful, but I’ve never found the denizens of the Bank anythjng less than pleasant, and I always go decked out in Yankee paraphenalia. Those were fairly isolated incidents.
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Fri, 22 Mar 2013 18:17:33 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460528Ever been to any sporting event in Philadelphia? They don’t even bother going to the bathroom to puke…they just vomit on each other.

And the old scoreboard should stay. I’m not from Chicago and I’ve only been to Wrigley a couple of times, but part of the experience to me was seeing baseball as purely as you can outside of a Little League game. You watch the game, you listen to the organ playing, you sing “Take Me Out to the Ballgame.” There aren’t any flashing ad banners. If you don’t pay attention to a play, you just don’t see it. It was refreshing, and something a lot of teams could learn a little something from.

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Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:22:35 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460440Phil Rogers is trolling.
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Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:15:07 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460426Fuck a Jumbotron,and the shitty music,stupid videos,games,races, commercials and all the rest of the crap,and while they are at it,PLEASE,PLEASE stop with the inanity of walk-up music.
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Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:00:15 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460403Definitely keep the scoreboard. I went to Wrigley for the first time this past summer and my wife and I both felt like we went back in time. Sure, not everyone likes the stadium, but putting a video board up would take away a lot of the experience. The closest stadium I have is the Rogers Centre and I hate the Jumbotron there (not to mention the stupid carpet turf, but that’s a whole other kettle of fish).
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Fri, 22 Mar 2013 16:59:52 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460402Have you ever tried to use the internet at a game? Impossibly slow.
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Fri, 22 Mar 2013 16:31:32 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460378Being a fan of another team and living no where near Chicago, I finally had the opportunity to take in a game at Wrigley last year and it was a great baseball experience. There are no distracting graphics or stats to take you away from the game of baseball being played on the field. If you need those stats and info while watching the game either look it up on your phone or watch the game from home. Wrigley is about pure baseball and is now my favorite place to watch a game. Everyone around us was interested in the game and it was quite enjoyable.

Also, since no one mentioned this yet in the demolishment argument, I am curious how they are going to get around the landmark status of the scoreboard itself. As I learned on a tour of Wrigley (during the same trip to Chicago), the red marquee on the front of Wrigley, the ivy covered outfield walls, and the manual scoreboard are all considered landmarks. Any expansion or reconstruction done around the stadium has to be done around these items and very carefully.

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Fri, 22 Mar 2013 16:20:56 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460367You mistook my statistic’s meaning… I meant for every drunk fan, which you assume is nearly every fan. I do not. There are tons of kids, tons of families in general that go as well. There are many suburbanites that go to watch, neither heavily drinking nor fervently keeping score. I’m saying that for every extremely drunk/obnoxious fan that you describe is a fan that is deeply into the game and keeping score. The vast majority is somewhere in the middle, just like every ballpark.
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Fri, 22 Mar 2013 16:13:44 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460359“For every drunk fan at Wrigley, there is a quiet one keeping score and watching baseball.” You think a 50-50 split is normal? At most ballparks 10-20% of folks are there to booze with 80-90% there to watch. At Wrigley, 50-50 is about right. If you thinks Cubs fans don’t over-consume beer when compared to other fan bases, you haven’t been to games outside of Wrigley Field.
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Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:54:23 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460339Keep it. Fans have cell phones. They can get stats etc on their phones if they need it. It looks cool IMO.
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Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:47:33 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460330You’re wrong on this one, Craig. My argument is 100% emotional, but you’re wrong. So deal with it!

Also, I think the scoreboard is part of the designated historical part of Wrigley.

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Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:42:23 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460319ZING! Seriously let’s make this happen.
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Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:41:01 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460318This.
]]>By: Alex Khttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/22/should-the-cubs-get-rid-of-their-historic-scoreboard/comment-page-1/#comment-460315
Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:40:14 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460315Keep painting with that broad brush. It makes you look like a real genius.
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Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:38:58 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460314This is the dumbest generalization I’ve seen in awhile. You can say that about any fans of any park. For every drunk fan at Wrigley, there is a quiet one keeping score and watching baseball. Sure, the bleachers are much more raucous, but seriously, you have no idea what your talking about as far as the entire Wrigley experience.

The scoreboard should stay. The jumbotron can go in Left easily and block that stupid Miller Lite roof ad across Waveland. There aren’t even rooftops with stands over there.

]]>By: Gamera the Bravehttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/22/should-the-cubs-get-rid-of-their-historic-scoreboard/comment-page-1/#comment-460299
Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:29:26 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460299“I find the kiss cam as a good opportunity for chicanery and hijinks.”

Sure, if you’re a blackguard or a knave, or some other fashion of
ne’er-do-well…

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Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:25:12 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460292Let’s replace the Green Monster with an IMAX screen that plays Dora The Explorer reruns so Fenway is more kid friendly.
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Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:12:34 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319807#comment-460281I say they need to do away with it because its always wrong. the out of town part is the majority of the thing and the scores are wrong and pitchers are always wrong.

If they could at least get that right it’d be fine, but they never do.