Atlanta. #3 WORST. I would agree, if we look at the city limits. It's barren downtown. No shoppers. No businesses of merit. Few tourists. Plain & simple it was put to death by blacks. Yeah, it's cluster**** of crime, with little commerce.

Atlanta in terms of suberbia, is another deal. Green, white, and vibrant. METRO Atlanta suberbs can be very, very nice. The clubs, the shopping, the folks who produce, are all outside the perimeter.

But one strange thing is happening. Even some inner city neighborhoods are getting better. Because whites, in true pioneer fashion, are taking back what was once there's. What was once white, is in certain areas, becoming somewhat white again. Blacks are complaining, because their tax rates are rising, due to the fact the value of the houses and property have increased! Basically saying, we are happy to live like thugs and pigs.

My thoughts are that I am shocked that Tucson is in there at #25. Ugh!!!!

I'm surprised that it is so far down on the list!!!

I lived there for ten years and if they are ever going to give the state of Arizona an enema, Tucson is where they will insert the tube. Of course the joos that run the place will ge sure to get an "insertion fee". Tucson was on another list as the #1 city over 500 thousand with the worst crime, but most of it was larcency; not a lot of murder there. Crime is crime, no matter what.

I don't know why it took me ten years to see the light and get the hell out of that hellhole. The city is broke, the traffic is a nightmare and there really isn't a lot to live there for unless you are in the military or with the university.

"Surrounded by mountains on all sides, Tucson's terrain makes for excellent hiking, mountain biking, and even skiing. The U of Arizona anchors the city's cultural offerings and economy, and there is virtually sunshine every day of the year".

Is that true?? Sounds pretty nice to me.

I lived in Tucson and thats true about mountain hiking and good weather but thats it! Theres nothing more to Tucson. It has somewhat of a 'tinsel city' feel like Los Angeles and it has no character whats-so-ever. It used to have character when it still had remnants of the wild west cowboy/indian things going on but after WW2 things changed until now its just a big city full of commercial bussinesses with nothing else. There used to be horse ranches all around Tucson(even right in the city) but there all gone to developers.

What an interesting list. I've driven through Billings, MT quite a few times and know people who live there, and I can believe it's on the "good" list. I don't know if I've ever seen a non-White in that city.

Also, this summer I went on a road trip through the South, and I can believe cities like Savannah, Atlanta, and Birmingham are right up there on the "worst" list. While driving through Birmingham I counted how many White people I saw as opposed to blacks, and I came up with that the city must be 95% black from what I saw. I guess I was closer than I thought, as the list says it's 73%! Wow. To someone who lives in rural South Dakota, that whole trip came as a shocker. In one Birmingham ghetto-ish neighborhood, there were neon signs posted around advertising "6 gold teeth for 100 dollars" .... .... I mean, what culture shock for me . I would NEVER want to live in a Southern city. It was just so strange, the cities seemed totally black and run-down, and then just a few miles outside of the city limits, everyone was White and friendly again. So I agree, the suburbs of these "worst" cities might be nice places indeed.

As far as the good list, does anyone here live in Bend, Oregon? I vacationed over there last year, and it seemed like a very clean, White place to live. I couldn't even find a bad part of town. And what a beautiful location! So does anyone think it could make the "good" list, or was I just missing something (besides Oregon being the "liberal capital of the U.S.") ?