topic Re: tRump is a Russian Pawn in Politics, Current Eventshttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212079#M942049
<P><FONT size="4">tRump is a Russian 'Pawn' and full disclosure of tRump's financial records from Deutsche Bank will disclose that.</FONT></P>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 11:16:31 GMTChasKy532019-12-27T11:16:31ZtRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211510#M941791
<P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">Connect the dots Trumpettes:</FONT></STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">1. Lil donny became a person of interest to the KGB in 1977 when he married Czec national Ivana <SPAN><SPAN class="ILfuVd NA6bn c3biWd"><SPAN class="e24Kjd">Zelníčková. Why? Because in '77 Czechoslovakia was behind the Iron Curtain and they were all BROKE - anyone with money fascinated them, especially an egomaniac like donny who possessed many of the traits the KGB looked for in a "useful Idiot" they could recruit to advance World Communism.</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080"><SPAN><SPAN class="ILfuVd NA6bn c3biWd"><SPAN class="e24Kjd">2. When Communism fell in the Velvet Revolution of 1989, the files Czech StB (National Security, which had been under the control of the KGB since 1948) were opened to the public, and a thick folder on Donny was uncovered. Seems Ivana's dad had been forced to inform on his daughter and son-in-law tRump, including his financial problems due to all the failed businesses and the fact no Western bank would lend him money. To pretend an even thicker folder is not still begting added to in Moscow is to imagine the KGB did not recruit agents in the US.<BR /></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080"><SPAN><SPAN class="ILfuVd NA6bn c3biWd"><SPAN class="e24Kjd">3. In 1987, donny again spiked the interest of the KGB by placing a full page ad in the NYT asking President Reagan to make him the head of the Nuclear disarmament talks (SALT) with the USSR, based on his wonderful deal making ability. In addition to love of money, the KGB was always looking for egomaniacs as these folks are easy to manouver into compromising situations or flattered into thinking they're going to be a special player in World History. To pretend donny does not fill that bill is to ignore his life story.</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080"><SPAN><SPAN class="ILfuVd NA6bn c3biWd"><SPAN class="e24Kjd">4. When tRump approached the Soviet Government about a tRump Tower in Moscow in 1987, he was treated to a royal reception by the elite of the Communist Government - exactly the kind of reception that blinds donny to the true nature of his hosts to this day (think North Korea and Saudi Arabia). Think about it - the KGB had a ton of data from the Czechs, they new the twit worshipped money, had an ego the size of the sun, <EM>AND COULD NOT GET A LOAN!&nbsp; </EM>Would the KGB just sit on this intelligence, or would they begin to use it to turn donny into a VERY useful idiot?</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080"><SPAN><SPAN class="ILfuVd NA6bn c3biWd"><SPAN class="e24Kjd">5. By 1990, donny couldn't even get junk bond financing for his sundry scams, but then Deutsche Bank's Personal Wealth Management Division suddenly had an BOTTOMLESS bucket of money for donny. DB was CONVICTED and fined billions of dollars for operating a "money laundering" operation for the Russian Mob, Oligarchs and Government. It worked like this: When Communism fell in 1991, the new Government privatized all the former Goverment assets WHICH WAS EVERYTHING! - there was no private property in the USSR. People with some power and influence BOUGHT all this property, or cheated others out of it. Then they sold the property they had stolen and to "launder" the money, bought real estate and super yachts which they then resold so the money from the resale could not be traced to the frauds and extortions used to acquire the former Government property. This is what Paul Manaford went to jail for - while working in the Ukraine for the totally corrupt pro-Russian Government he claimed he paid a million bucks for clothes, which he resold for a million bucks, but in reality he paid maybe $10,000, but the Russians wanting to hid their money paid him an extra $990,000, so long as he gave them a receipt for the million so when they resold it it would SEEM legit. tRump's businesses continued to FAIL all during this period, BUT HE HAD OODLES OF MONEY - you guess how that happened - some of this showed up in the Mueller Report, but since he was by then ToadPOTUS, Mueller could not indict him. You might also wonder what it was about Manafort's history of making big bucks dealing with Russian Oligarchs that tRump thought would make him the perfect campaign manager?</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080"><SPAN><SPAN class="ILfuVd NA6bn c3biWd"><SPAN class="e24Kjd">The fair market value of everything donny owns is $3.6Billion. His loans from the Russian Mob, Oligarchs and Government via Deutsche Bank total in excess of $2Billion. He cannot make the payments on those loans - even with the rampant violations of the Emoluments Clause where donny funnels Government business to his hotels and golf clubs <EM>THEY ARE NOT MAKING MONEY.</EM><BR /></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080"><SPAN><SPAN class="ILfuVd NA6bn c3biWd"><SPAN class="e24Kjd">Given his personal history, what would donny do to avoid being publically humiliated by having all his assets foreclosed? Better question: Given his personal history would would donny NOT do to avoid this?<BR /></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P>Tue, 24 Dec 2019 21:49:54 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211510#M941791Olderscout662019-12-24T21:49:54ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211533#M941803
<P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Wow scout, Mueller did not find any of that...</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>How long have you been writing fiction? &nbsp;I noticed there were no foot notes or citations to support what you just wrote.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Enjoy your evening...</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Tue, 24 Dec 2019 23:21:44 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211533#M941803jimc912019-12-24T23:21:44ZtRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211535#M941804
<P>Here's some NON-Fiction. Comrade Trump's foreign policies for the past 3 years are the same as Vladimir's.</P>Tue, 24 Dec 2019 23:29:17 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211535#M941804CriticalThinking2019-12-24T23:29:17ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211537#M941805
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>I noticed there were no foot notes or citations to support what you just wrote.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><FONT color="#666699"><STRONG>Innocent until proven guilty.&nbsp; Your turn to attempt disproving any single detail in scout's excellent summary of Mr. P.'s useful idiot's</STRONG><STRONG> lifelong, ongoing corruption.</STRONG></FONT><EM><STRONG><BR /></STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P><FONT size="5"><FONT color="#666699"><STRONG><IMG src="http://www.msnbc.com/sites/msnbc/files/styles/ratio--3-2--1_5x-768x512/public/ap_18197550077492.jpg?itok=19SfxSCH" alt="Image result for images trump and putin photographs" width="602" border="0" height="401" /></STRONG></FONT></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Tue, 24 Dec 2019 23:39:35 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211537#M941805oceanedge22019-12-24T23:39:35ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211540#M941806
<P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Don't have to, it's fiction... &nbsp;Or was Mueller that inept?</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>TDS is robbing your life folks.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Merry Christmas</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Tue, 24 Dec 2019 23:45:47 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211540#M941806jimc912019-12-24T23:45:47ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211568#M941825
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Don't have to, it's fiction... &nbsp;Or was Mueller that inept?</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>TDS is robbing your life folks.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Merry Christmas</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>He gave you the run down on Trump over the years, and what he tells you is closer to fact than anything you have posted. Muller was not involved in that part of Trump life so why do you bring that up.</P>Wed, 25 Dec 2019 01:59:24 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211568#M941825john2582019-12-25T01:59:24ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211616#M941840
<P>You are full of alot of blah,blah,blah and very disrespectful.</P>Wed, 25 Dec 2019 13:47:21 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211616#M941840DanielA2315772019-12-25T13:47:21ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211617#M941841
<P>Say what you may, President Trump has made America great again ! He has my vote for 2020.</P>Wed, 25 Dec 2019 13:49:14 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211617#M941841DanielA2315772019-12-25T13:49:14ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211621#M941843
<P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">For the lofo's refusing to admit the truth about donny Bonespurs, just google any of the events I listed and see for yourself. The $2Billion he owes Russias and Russia is the amount he spent while only Deutsche Bank would lend to him - there's no other source, and banks do NOT loan you THEIR money - they loan you OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY, and in this case the people desperate to launder their ill gotten gains were RUSSIAN&nbsp; Oligarchs, Mobsters and Government Officials.</FONT></STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">The greatness your imagination is concocting has nothing to do with reality - wages are stagnant, our trade deficit has GROWN, the deficits are back to levels only achieved by jrbush as he was destroying the economy via deregulation and those low unemployment figures are because the people going back to work because Republicans connived to screw them out of their retirement pensions had to re-enter the labor market to pay their bills - since they weren't part of the number "seeking employment", their addition to the employed skewed the numbers - there are still no really good jobs that will support a family AND allow eventual retirement for 90% of workers.</FONT></STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">Oh yeah, then there's the FACT tRump is a Russian pawn destroying America's alliances and trade agreements and quietly defunding health care for the 34 million now covered under PPACA while packing the courts with neocon idealogues.</FONT></STRONG></P>Wed, 25 Dec 2019 14:06:41 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211621#M941843Olderscout662019-12-25T14:06:41ZtRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211622#M941844
<P>America was great long before Comrade Trump showed up and invoked the policies of Vladimir Putin. Trump's destroyed our reputation with our allies, injected bigotry into the White House, showed a new generation of young Americans that our President is a pathological liar who surrounds himself with convicted felons.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Despite all of the above, he is worshipped and idolized in Trump World where he's seen as the savior of White People.</P>Wed, 25 Dec 2019 14:08:32 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211622#M941844CriticalThinking2019-12-25T14:08:32ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211627#M941848
CriticalThinking posted...<BR /><BR />America was great long before Comrade Trump showed up and invoked the policies of Vladimir Putin. Trump's destroyed our reputation with our allies, injected bigotry into the White House, showed a new generation of young Americans that our President is a pathological liar who surrounds himself with convicted felons.<BR /><BR /><BR /><BR />Despite all of the above, he is worshipped (sic) and idolized in Trump World where he's seen as the savior of White People.<BR /><BR />===========================================================<BR /><BR />I see that you do not let up with your left wing garbage even on Christmas day.<BR /><BR />It should be a day to be thankful for our blessings.<BR /><BR />MERRY CHRISTMASWed, 25 Dec 2019 14:28:45 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211627#M941848KidBoy22019-12-25T14:28:45ZtRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211633#M941849
<P><STRONG>In Trump World they have no values, no respect for honesty, and they do not put America first. The only thing which matters is keeping Trump in power, no matter what he does or says.</STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG>Is this the kind of role model you want for our children and grandchildren?</STRONG>&nbsp;</P><UL><LI>He's a <STRONG>pathological liar</STRONG></LI><LI>He insults people 24/7</LI><LI>He's been accused of sexual assault by multiple women</LI><LI>He surrounded himself with an array of <STRONG>convicted felons</STRONG></LI><LI>He writes <STRONG>love letters to brutal North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un</STRONG></LI><LI>He listens to Vladimir Putin instead of U.S. Intelligence Agencies</LI><LI>He's been accused of <STRONG>obstruction of justice</STRONG> multiple times</LI><LI>He refuses to release his tax returns like all other U.S. Presidents</LI><LI>etc.</LI></UL>Wed, 25 Dec 2019 14:36:52 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211633#M941849CriticalThinking2019-12-25T14:36:52ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211637#M941852
<P><FONT size="5"><STRONG><EM>Just more drivel from the sore</EM> losers&nbsp;aka, never Trumpers and dimms all suffering TDS... &nbsp;</STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><STRONG>God bless their little hearts..</STRONG></FONT>.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Dec 2019 14:41:33 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211637#M941852jimc912019-12-25T14:41:33ZtRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211639#M941854
<P><STRONG>In Trump World they have no values, no respect for honesty, and they do not put America first. The only thing which matters is keeping Trump in power, no matter what he does or says.</STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The following is drivel only in Trump World where they ignore facts and the truth.<FONT color="#000080"><STRONG> I challenge any objective person to point out anything below which is not true. </STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG>Is this the kind of role model you want for our children and grandchildren?</STRONG>&nbsp;</P><UL><LI>He's a <STRONG>pathological liar</STRONG></LI><LI>He insults people 24/7</LI><LI>He's been accused of sexual assault by multiple women</LI><LI>He surrounded himself with an array of <STRONG>convicted felons</STRONG></LI><LI>He writes <STRONG>love letters to brutal North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un</STRONG></LI><LI>He listens to Vladimir Putin instead of U.S. Intelligence Agencies</LI><LI>He's been accused of <STRONG>obstruction of justice</STRONG> multiple times</LI><LI>He refuses to release his tax returns like all other U.S. Presidents</LI><LI>etc.</LI></UL>Wed, 25 Dec 2019 14:52:31 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211639#M941854CriticalThinking2019-12-25T14:52:31ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211642#M941855
<P>Things are becoming delusional as the losers are running out of ammo... So, they copy and paste the exact same paragraph time after time after time.... &nbsp;That is delusional.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Dec 2019 14:49:57 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211642#M941855jimc912019-12-25T14:49:57ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211668#M941871
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="739192"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />CriticalThinking posted...<BR /><BR />America was great long before Comrade Trump showed up and invoked the policies of Vladimir Putin. Trump's destroyed our reputation with our allies, injected bigotry into the White House, showed a new generation of young Americans that our President is a pathological liar who surrounds himself with convicted felons.<BR /><BR /><BR /><BR />Despite all of the above, he is worshipped (sic) and idolized in Trump World where he's seen as the savior of White People.<BR /><BR />===========================================================<BR /><BR />I see that you do not let up with your left wing garbage even on Christmas day.<BR /><BR />It should be a day to be thankful for our blessings.<BR /><BR />MERRY CHRISTMAS<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="4">I see that trump supporters don't let up on their Denial on Christmas Day.&nbsp; I am more than thankful for my blessings, especially the blessing of being intelligent and open minded enough to see what tRump truly is.</FONT></P>Wed, 25 Dec 2019 16:45:24 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211668#M941871ChasKy532019-12-25T16:45:24ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211669#M941872
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P>Things are becoming delusional as the losers are running out of ammo... So, they copy and paste the exact same paragraph time after time after time.... &nbsp;That is delusional.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="4">The truth has to be posted over and over to tRump supporters, they barely recognize it anymore because of the repetitive&nbsp;lies they have been told over and over by tRump, Fox, and tother&nbsp;extreme right wing sources they use.</FONT></P>Wed, 25 Dec 2019 16:49:28 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211669#M941872ChasKy532019-12-25T16:49:28ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211679#M941880
Jim posted..<BR /><BR />Things are becoming delusional as the losers are running out of ammo... So, they copy and paste the exact same paragraph time after time after time.... That is delusional.<BR /><BR />==========================================================<BR /><BR />Not only that but we have one that has the gal to go by critical thinking in his/her stage name. Every time I see that I have to laugh.....critical thinking...not!Wed, 25 Dec 2019 17:12:25 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211679#M941880KidBoy22019-12-25T17:12:25ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211681#M941882
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="1371512"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P>Things are becoming delusional as the losers are running out of ammo... So, they copy and paste the exact same paragraph time after time after time.... &nbsp;That is delusional.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="4">The truth has to be posted over and over to tRump supporters, they barely recognize it anymore because of the repetitive&nbsp;lies they have been told over and over by tRump, Fox, and tother&nbsp;extreme right wing sources they use.</FONT></P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Yet you post no evidence to support the title of this thread being true...</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Its just one more work of fiction fabricated out of desperation created by losing 2016 and the reality of knowing they will lose again in 2020. &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>The dimms have no plan or vision for America...</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Dec 2019 17:17:16 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211681#M941882jimc912019-12-25T17:17:16ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211684#M941885
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="21759606"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P>Say what you may, President Trump has made America great again ! He has my vote for 2020.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>So you are&nbsp;voting for him. Well here is who you are&nbsp;voting for. Trump: Tried&nbsp;to steal 3 million from NYC, Paid 24&nbsp; million to Students of Trump Univ. for fraud, His his Charity shut down and paid a 2million fine, Paid off many women after he had sex&nbsp;with them, rapped his wife, Is an unindicated Coconsperitor with Michael Cohen in a crime and should be in jail with him, hast worked as Putins&nbsp;lackey for years, caused Brexit in&nbsp; Europe, left the Kurds to die in battle, killed people crossing the order, taken children from their parents at the border, has a White&nbsp;supremacists in his staff creating that type of policies, trying&nbsp;to destroy the EU, and NATO, made the US the ex leader in the world. Green lighted the killing of a reporter working for the DC Post in Turkey by SA, trying to over throw the Pope, has more people who worked for his campaign and in govt in jail or convicted that any President, lies over 90% of the time. Yes there is more. A vote for Trump is just like what the people in Germany did in the 1930 when they created&nbsp;Dictator Hitler. A vote for Trump creates&nbsp;Dictator Trump who will do just what Hitler did to Germany to the USA.</P>Wed, 25 Dec 2019 17:40:27 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211684#M941885john2582019-12-25T17:40:27ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211833#M941951
<P><A title="If The FBI’s Contempt For The Law Is Not Reined In, Its Abuses Will Get Worse" href="https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/26/if-the-fbis-contempt-for-the-law-is-not-reined-in-its-abuses-will-get-worse/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">If The FBI’s Contempt For The Law Is Not Reined In, Its Abuses Will Get Worse</A></P><DIV class="subtitle"><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>The former CIA and FBI director’s article is a symptom of how the establishment media has become the propaganda arm of an increasingly robust U.S. authoritarian movement.</STRONG></EM></FONT></DIV><P>&nbsp;</P><P>BY: &nbsp;Adam Mill</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>In 2018, the U.S. government <A href="https://fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fisa/2018rept.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener">filed</A> 1,117 final applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court for authority for the FBI to conduct electronic surveillance and physical searches. One application was withdrawn. One other was denied. The remaining 1,115 were granted.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Hours before the FISA court issued a December 17 <A href="https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6600-fisa-court-demands-answers-fro/87f1132ddc399b0c99b1/optimized/full.pdf#page=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener">order</A> openly declaring that it could no longer trust <EM>any</EM> of the sworn statements the FBI had submitted to justify spying on Americans, The New York Times published an opinion <A href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/16/opinion/FBI-Trump-russia-investigation.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share" target="_blank" rel="noopener">article</A> by William Webster, a former director of both the FBI and the CIA. Webster wrote, “Today, the integrity of the institutions that protect our civil order is, tragically, under assault from too many people whose job it should be to protect them.”</P><DIV><DIV class="perma-ad-wrapper">&nbsp;</DIV></DIV><P>Gone are the days The New York Times worked to expose government abuse of power. The New York Times now defends power from truth.</P><P><FONT size="5"><STRONG>No More ‘Dissent Is Patriotism’</STRONG></FONT></P><P>Setting aside the very dubious propositions that the FBI and the CIA should be protected from criticism, let’s plumb the depths of the Webster/NYT argument. Who, according to Webster, has the job of protecting the FBI and the CIA? Webster explains exactly who he means: “I am deeply disturbed by the assertion of President Trump that our ‘current director’ — as he refers to the man he selected for the job of running the F.B.I. — cannot fix what the president calls a broken agency.”</P><P>Webster goes on to suggest that the FBI should operate as an independent agency and that he is outraged by the “president’s thinly veiled suggestion that the director, Christopher Wray, like his banished predecessor, James Comey, could be on the chopping block.” He adds, “The independence of both the F.B.I. and its director is critical and should be fiercely protected by each branch of government.” Webster goes on to make it clear that the “rule of law” is threatened by the president criticizing the FBI.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The article is a symptom of how the establishment media has become the propaganda arm of an increasingly robust authoritarian movement in the United States. This movement inverts</P><P>constitutional principles so that it becomes the president’s job to protect the FBI from criticism and his threat to fire an FBI chief is a threat to the Constitution. This is the kind of thing that Vladimir Putin might have told Tass to publish as he sought to seize power from Boris Yeltsin in the 1990s.</P><P><FONT size="5"><STRONG>Not Mistakes But Deliberate Abuse of Power</STRONG></FONT></P><DIV><DIV class="perma-ad-wrapper">&nbsp;</DIV></DIV><P>The legitimacy of the FBI is in free fall. But not its terrifying power. The biggest lie about the latest <A href="https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Office of Inspector General report</A> is that it reveals “mistakes” made by the FBI. These weren’t mistakes. The FISA court used more accurate terminology, like “misconduct.” The FBI investigators who applied for the Carter Page warrants had in their possession information that directly contradicted the basic factual requirements to apply for a surveillance warrant.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>As noted by the FISA court, “On December 9, 2019, the government filed with the FISC public and classified versions of the OIG Report…It documents troubling instances in which FBI personnel provided information…which was unsupported or contradicted by information in their possession.” These include falsely claiming dossier author Christopher Steele’s prior work was relied upon in prior criminal proceedings, doctoring evidence to hide the fact that Page was actually working for America to spy on Russia, and falsely claiming that the FBI had corroborated Steele’s work when Steele himself questioned his source’s accuracy in October 2016.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The FBI knew by October 2016 that Page denied ever meeting Paul Manafort but nevertheless told the FISA court that it believed Manafort coordinated the Trump/Russia collusion through Page. The FBI told the FISA court that Page was working directly with two Russians he denied ever meeting.</P><P><FONT size="5"><STRONG>‘They Withheld Information Detrimental to Their Case’</STRONG></FONT></P><P>Webster wrote, “In fact, the report conclusively found that the evidence to initiate the Russia investigation was unassailable.” That’s simply not true. The FISA court wrote, “The FBI’ s handling of the Carter Page applications, as portrayed in the OIG report, was antithetical to the heightened duty of candor described above. The frequency with which representations made by FBI personnel turned out to be unsupported or contradicted by information in their possession, and with which they withheld information detrimental to their case, calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable.”</P><DIV><DIV class="perma-ad-wrapper">&nbsp;</DIV></DIV><P>The FISA Court is referring to all pending FISA applications, more than 1,000 of which were initiated last year. The FISA court ordered the government to, “no later than January 10, 2020, inform the Court in a sworn written submission of what it has done, and plans to do, to ensure that the statement of facts in each FBI application accurately and completely reflects information possessed by the FBI that is material to any issue presented by the application.”</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>America is deep in the midst of a civil liberties crisis. The FISA court recently <A href="https://www.intelligence.gov/assets/documents/702%20Documents/declassified/2018_Cert_FISC_Opin_18Oct18.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener">exposed</A> a massive spying operation by the FBI using the National Security Agency’s secret database. It confirmed that under FBI Director Christopher Wray, “Since April 2017, the government has reported a large number of FBI queries that were not reasonably likely to return foreign-intelligence intonation or evidence of crime. In a number of cases, a single improper decision or assessment resulted in the use of query terms corresponding to a large number of individuals, including U.S. persons.”</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The FBI routinely violated record-keeping procedures the court established to ensure that the FBI could account for who it spied upon and why. This followed an earlier decision in which the FBI falsely certified to the FISA court that it was not abusing electronic spying. In that opinion, the FISA court accused the intelligence community of an “institutional lack of candor.”</P><P><FONT size="5"><STRONG>FBI Fights to Hide Its Misconduct</STRONG></FONT></P><P>Under Wray, the FBI has <A href="https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fbi-clashes-with-house-judiciary-chairman-bob-goodlatte-over-transcripts-deadline" target="_blank" rel="noopener">fought</A> congressional and judicial oversight. It <A href="https://amgreatness.com/2019/10/17/christopher-wray-has-some-explaining-to-do/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">fought</A> the public release of yet another damning opinion from the FISA court released earlier this year. It appears to have slowed the release of this most recent OIG report.</P><DIV><DIV class="perma-ad-wrapper">&nbsp;</DIV></DIV><P>The OIG <A href="https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/461356-justice-oig-complete-probe-on-fbi-surveillance-of-trump-campaign" target="_blank" rel="noopener">completed</A> its probe of the Page FISA warrants in mid-September of this year. Nevertheless, the FBI withheld from the FISA court shocking revelations until the last possible minute. The FBI <A href="https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/26/ig-report-shows-fbi-has-lost-control-of-its-source-network/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">slashed</A>by 85 percent its office in charge of monitoring the shady relationships between FBI agents and their confidential human sources.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>In other words, Wray has accelerated the FBI’s decline in a way more commonly associated with James Comey. One need only listen to Wray’s words to understand why. He recently <A href="https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-director-chris-wray-reacts-doj-watchdog-report/story?id=67605418" target="_blank" rel="noopener">said</A> of the shocking IG report on the FBI’s many deceptions of the FISA court that it was “important that the inspector general found that, in this particular instance, the investigation was opened with appropriate predication and authorization.” That’s actually totally irrelevant. That Wray doesn’t seem to care that the FBI repeatedly deceives courts to spy on Americans is what’s important.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>How will the FBI react to this seemingly avalanche of damning information? The accelerating march to a Soviet-style FBI will continue unabated under the cover of lip service to correct a “failure in the process.” That’s ridiculous. Exactly what regulation needs to be changed so that the FBI stops lying to courts?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The FBI has repeatedly promised to stop illegal spying on Americans, only to increase operations. It has contempt for the court and the president’s constitutional authority to reign in these abuses. As of 2017, it used this spying to interfere with the peaceful transfer of power to a new elected president.</P><P>It’s all happening in plain sight. The legacy media, led by The New York Times, are openly</P><P>advocating making the FBI an independent agency with power over the elected president. Lying to spy on Americans is pretty much the worst thing a law enforcement agency can do, short of framing elected leaders for treason. Somebody has to go to prison, or this will get worse.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>We keep hearing “nobody is above the law.” But the FBI has repeatedly demonstrated otherwise.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Thu, 26 Dec 2019 13:01:10 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211833#M941951jimc912019-12-26T13:01:10ZtRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211838#M941953
<P>Remember when the Republican Party was proud of it's strong stance against Russia? But once Trump arrived on the scene, that turned around 180 degrees. It started when Trump diluted the strong anti-Russian platform at the 2016 campaign, and it's continued for the past 3 years.&nbsp;</P>Thu, 26 Dec 2019 15:06:45 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211838#M941953CriticalThinking2019-12-26T15:06:45ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211844#M941958
<P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">Nice to see no rightwingnut has managed to refute a single fact I presented.</FONT></STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">Instead, just like the elected GOPers trying to "defend" the indefensable tRump, they cut n paste long diatribes attacking the FBI or simply say tRump is not one of Putin's Useful Idiots, <EM>as if there's another explanation for donny's full throated support for all policies Putin.</EM></FONT></STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">As Jack Webb was wont to intone on Dragnet, "<EM>just the facts</EM>", and here they are:</FONT></STRONG></P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">1. tRump owes Russians more than he can repay.</FONT></STRONG></P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">2. tRump holds SECRET meetings with Russian officials and destroys any and all records of what happened in those meetings.</FONT></STRONG></P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">3. tRump talks with Putin every week on his own phone (no security) with only a translater, who has been sworn to secrecy, present and no record of the calls are made.</FONT></STRONG></P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">4. tRump puiblically stated his support for Russia's invasion of Ukraine and their occupation of Crimea.</FONT></STRONG></P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">5. tRump ordered out troops out of Syria and arranged so Russian troops could then occupy our fully stocked base camps.</FONT></STRONG></P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">6. tRump abandoned the Kurds, our strongest allies in the fight against ISIS, so they could be slaughtered by the Turks and Syria would be able to reestablish their close relationship with Russia.</FONT></STRONG></P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">7.tRump has constantly lied about our NATO allies to make his lofo base think somehow we are overpaying for having access to bases 3,000 miles closer to the Mideast, bases which are totally subsidized by the host country - we pay not a dime more to have troops in Germany, Italy, England and all the other NATO nations than we would pay if they were stationed in Kansas. This arrangement has existed since Kissenger renegotiated the Status Of Forces Agrement (SOFA) in 1972.</FONT></STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">So GOPers - IF you really think your idol is NOT a Russian pawn, <EM>WHY IS HE ACTING LIKE ONE?</EM></FONT></STRONG></P>Thu, 26 Dec 2019 13:52:33 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211844#M941958Olderscout662019-12-26T13:52:33ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211853#M941965
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="639942"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">Nice to see no rightwingnut has managed to refute a single fact I presented.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">Instead, just like the elected GOPers trying to "defend" the indefensable tRump, they cut n paste long diatribes attacking the FBI or simply say tRump is not one of Putin's Useful Idiots, <EM>as if there's another explanation for donny's full throated support for all policies Putin.</EM></FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">As Jack Webb was wont to intone on Dragnet, "<EM>just the facts</EM>", and here they are:</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">1. tRump owes Russians more than he can repay.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">2. tRump holds SECRET meetings with Russian officials and destroys any and all records of what happened in those meetings.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">3. tRump talks with Putin every week on his own phone (no security) with only a translater, who has been sworn to secrecy, present and no record of the calls are made.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">4. tRump puiblically stated his support for Russia's invasion of Ukraine and their occupation of Crimea.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">5. tRump ordered out troops out of Syria and arranged so Russian troops could then occupy our fully stocked base camps.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">6. tRump abandoned the Kurds, our strongest allies in the fight against ISIS, so they could be slaughtered by the Turks and Syria would be able to reestablish their close relationship with Russia.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">7.tRump has constantly lied about our NATO allies to make his lofo base think somehow we are overpaying for having access to bases 3,000 miles closer to the Mideast, bases which are totally subsidized by the host country - we pay not a dime more to have troops in Germany, Italy, England and all the other NATO nations than we would pay if they were stationed in Kansas. This arrangement has existed since Kissenger renegotiated the Status Of Forces Agrement (SOFA) in 1972.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">So GOPers - IF you really think your idol is NOT a Russian pawn, <EM>WHY IS HE ACTING LIKE ONE?</EM></FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><LI-VIDEO vid="https://youtu.be/HQ5v3KBeUWk" align="center" size="small" width="200" height="113" uploading="false" thumbnail="https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HQ5v3KBeUWk/hqdefault.jpg" external="url"></LI-VIDEO></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Watch in Comey's own words, refute everything you just wrote&nbsp;<LI-USER uid="639942"></LI-USER>&nbsp;...</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Thu, 26 Dec 2019 14:12:31 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211853#M941965jimc912019-12-26T14:12:31ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211854#M941966
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="639942"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">Nice to see no rightwingnut has managed to refute a single fact I presented.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">Instead, just like the elected GOPers trying to "defend" the indefensable tRump, they cut n paste long diatribes attacking the FBI or simply say tRump is not one of Putin's Useful Idiots, <EM>as if there's another explanation for donny's full throated support for all policies Putin.</EM></FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">As Jack Webb was wont to intone on Dragnet, "<EM>just the facts</EM>", and here they are:</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">1. tRump owes Russians more than he can repay.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">2. tRump holds SECRET meetings with Russian officials and destroys any and all records of what happened in those meetings.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">3. tRump talks with Putin every week on his own phone (no security) with only a translater, who has been sworn to secrecy, present and no record of the calls are made.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">4. tRump puiblically stated his support for Russia's invasion of Ukraine and their occupation of Crimea.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">5. tRump ordered out troops out of Syria and arranged so Russian troops could then occupy our fully stocked base camps.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">6. tRump abandoned the Kurds, our strongest allies in the fight against ISIS, so they could be slaughtered by the Turks and Syria would be able to reestablish their close relationship with Russia.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">7.tRump has constantly lied about our NATO allies to make his lofo base think somehow we are overpaying for having access to bases 3,000 miles closer to the Mideast, bases which are totally subsidized by the host country - we pay not a dime more to have troops in Germany, Italy, England and all the other NATO nations than we would pay if they were stationed in Kansas. This arrangement has existed since Kissenger renegotiated the Status Of Forces Agrement (SOFA) in 1972.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">So GOPers - IF you really think your idol is NOT a Russian pawn, <EM>WHY IS HE ACTING LIKE ONE?</EM></FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><LI-VIDEO vid="https://youtu.be/HQ5v3KBeUWk" align="center" size="custom" width="200" height="113" uploading="false" thumbnail="https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HQ5v3KBeUWk/hqdefault.jpg" external="url"></LI-VIDEO></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Watch in Comey's own words, refute everything you just wrote&nbsp;<LI-USER uid="639942"></LI-USER>&nbsp;...</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="4">So you post the words of a corrupt tRump pawn in the hope to discredit the fact that Trump is a Russian/Putin pawn.&nbsp; It just doesn't get any better than this !&nbsp; &nbsp;SNL could use this on their show !!!!!</FONT></P>Thu, 26 Dec 2019 14:16:13 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211854#M941966ChasKy532019-12-26T14:16:13ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211863#M941974
<P><FONT size="4"><STRONG>I agree whole-heartedly with <LI-USER uid="639942"></LI-USER>.&nbsp; Not only is</STRONG></FONT><FONT size="6"><STRONG>&nbsp;tRump a Russian Pawn, </STRONG></FONT><FONT color="#800000" face="arial black,avant garde"><FONT size="6"><EM><STRONG>he's a Putin Plant! &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT><FONT color="#0000ff" size="5"><STRONG>My hope is our country will not be destroyed by his continuance and the appalling silence of the GOP which go-alongs to get-along with the Tryannt Trump; <FONT color="#ff6600" face="comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="6">selling out America and the American people--all for the love of money and power!</FONT></STRONG></FONT></FONT></P>Thu, 26 Dec 2019 23:55:42 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211863#M941974LydiaN5863092019-12-26T23:55:42ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211895#M941982
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><A title="If The FBI’s Contempt For The Law Is Not Reined In, Its Abuses Will Get Worse" href="https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/26/if-the-fbis-contempt-for-the-law-is-not-reined-in-its-abuses-will-get-worse/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">If The FBI’s Contempt For The Law Is Not Reined In, Its Abuses Will Get Worse</A></P><DIV class="subtitle"><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>The former CIA and FBI director’s article is a symptom of how the establishment media has become the propaganda arm of an increasingly robust U.S. authoritarian movement.</STRONG></EM></FONT></DIV><P>&nbsp;</P><P>BY: &nbsp;Adam Mill</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>In 2018, the U.S. government <A href="https://fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fisa/2018rept.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener">filed</A> 1,117 final applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court for authority for the FBI to conduct electronic surveillance and physical searches. One application was withdrawn. One other was denied. The remaining 1,115 were granted.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Hours before the FISA court issued a December 17 <A href="https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6600-fisa-court-demands-answers-fro/87f1132ddc399b0c99b1/optimized/full.pdf#page=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener">order</A> openly declaring that it could no longer trust <EM>any</EM> of the sworn statements the FBI had submitted to justify spying on Americans, The New York Times published an opinion <A href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/16/opinion/FBI-Trump-russia-investigation.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share" target="_blank" rel="noopener">article</A> by William Webster, a former director of both the FBI and the CIA. Webster wrote, “Today, the integrity of the institutions that protect our civil order is, tragically, under assault from too many people whose job it should be to protect them.”</P><DIV><DIV class="perma-ad-wrapper">&nbsp;</DIV></DIV><P>Gone are the days The New York Times worked to expose government abuse of power. The New York Times now defends power from truth.</P><P><FONT size="5"><STRONG>No More ‘Dissent Is Patriotism’</STRONG></FONT></P><P>Setting aside the very dubious propositions that the FBI and the CIA should be protected from criticism, let’s plumb the depths of the Webster/NYT argument. Who, according to Webster, has the job of protecting the FBI and the CIA? Webster explains exactly who he means: “I am deeply disturbed by the assertion of President Trump that our ‘current director’ — as he refers to the man he selected for the job of running the F.B.I. — cannot fix what the president calls a broken agency.”</P><P>Webster goes on to suggest that the FBI should operate as an independent agency and that he is outraged by the “president’s thinly veiled suggestion that the director, Christopher Wray, like his banished predecessor, James Comey, could be on the chopping block.” He adds, “The independence of both the F.B.I. and its director is critical and should be fiercely protected by each branch of government.” Webster goes on to make it clear that the “rule of law” is threatened by the president criticizing the FBI.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The article is a symptom of how the establishment media has become the propaganda arm of an increasingly robust authoritarian movement in the United States. This movement inverts</P><P>constitutional principles so that it becomes the president’s job to protect the FBI from criticism and his threat to fire an FBI chief is a threat to the Constitution. This is the kind of thing that Vladimir Putin might have told Tass to publish as he sought to seize power from Boris Yeltsin in the 1990s.</P><P><FONT size="5"><STRONG>Not Mistakes But Deliberate Abuse of Power</STRONG></FONT></P><DIV><DIV class="perma-ad-wrapper">&nbsp;</DIV></DIV><P>The legitimacy of the FBI is in free fall. But not its terrifying power. The biggest lie about the latest <A href="https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Office of Inspector General report</A> is that it reveals “mistakes” made by the FBI. These weren’t mistakes. The FISA court used more accurate terminology, like “misconduct.” The FBI investigators who applied for the Carter Page warrants had in their possession information that directly contradicted the basic factual requirements to apply for a surveillance warrant.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>As noted by the FISA court, “On December 9, 2019, the government filed with the FISC public and classified versions of the OIG Report…It documents troubling instances in which FBI personnel provided information…which was unsupported or contradicted by information in their possession.” These include falsely claiming dossier author Christopher Steele’s prior work was relied upon in prior criminal proceedings, doctoring evidence to hide the fact that Page was actually working for America to spy on Russia, and falsely claiming that the FBI had corroborated Steele’s work when Steele himself questioned his source’s accuracy in October 2016.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The FBI knew by October 2016 that Page denied ever meeting Paul Manafort but nevertheless told the FISA court that it believed Manafort coordinated the Trump/Russia collusion through Page. The FBI told the FISA court that Page was working directly with two Russians he denied ever meeting.</P><P><FONT size="5"><STRONG>‘They Withheld Information Detrimental to Their Case’</STRONG></FONT></P><P>Webster wrote, “In fact, the report conclusively found that the evidence to initiate the Russia investigation was unassailable.” That’s simply not true. The FISA court wrote, “The FBI’ s handling of the Carter Page applications, as portrayed in the OIG report, was antithetical to the heightened duty of candor described above. The frequency with which representations made by FBI personnel turned out to be unsupported or contradicted by information in their possession, and with which they withheld information detrimental to their case, calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable.”</P><DIV><DIV class="perma-ad-wrapper">&nbsp;</DIV></DIV><P>The FISA Court is referring to all pending FISA applications, more than 1,000 of which were initiated last year. The FISA court ordered the government to, “no later than January 10, 2020, inform the Court in a sworn written submission of what it has done, and plans to do, to ensure that the statement of facts in each FBI application accurately and completely reflects information possessed by the FBI that is material to any issue presented by the application.”</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>America is deep in the midst of a civil liberties crisis. The FISA court recently <A href="https://www.intelligence.gov/assets/documents/702%20Documents/declassified/2018_Cert_FISC_Opin_18Oct18.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener">exposed</A> a massive spying operation by the FBI using the National Security Agency’s secret database. It confirmed that under FBI Director Christopher Wray, “Since April 2017, the government has reported a large number of FBI queries that were not reasonably likely to return foreign-intelligence intonation or evidence of crime. In a number of cases, a single improper decision or assessment resulted in the use of query terms corresponding to a large number of individuals, including U.S. persons.”</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The FBI routinely violated record-keeping procedures the court established to ensure that the FBI could account for who it spied upon and why. This followed an earlier decision in which the FBI falsely certified to the FISA court that it was not abusing electronic spying. In that opinion, the FISA court accused the intelligence community of an “institutional lack of candor.”</P><P><FONT size="5"><STRONG>FBI Fights to Hide Its Misconduct</STRONG></FONT></P><P>Under Wray, the FBI has <A href="https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fbi-clashes-with-house-judiciary-chairman-bob-goodlatte-over-transcripts-deadline" target="_blank" rel="noopener">fought</A> congressional and judicial oversight. It <A href="https://amgreatness.com/2019/10/17/christopher-wray-has-some-explaining-to-do/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">fought</A> the public release of yet another damning opinion from the FISA court released earlier this year. It appears to have slowed the release of this most recent OIG report.</P><DIV><DIV class="perma-ad-wrapper">&nbsp;</DIV></DIV><P>The OIG <A href="https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/461356-justice-oig-complete-probe-on-fbi-surveillance-of-trump-campaign" target="_blank" rel="noopener">completed</A> its probe of the Page FISA warrants in mid-September of this year. Nevertheless, the FBI withheld from the FISA court shocking revelations until the last possible minute. The FBI <A href="https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/26/ig-report-shows-fbi-has-lost-control-of-its-source-network/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">slashed</A>by 85 percent its office in charge of monitoring the shady relationships between FBI agents and their confidential human sources.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>In other words, Wray has accelerated the FBI’s decline in a way more commonly associated with James Comey. One need only listen to Wray’s words to understand why. He recently <A href="https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-director-chris-wray-reacts-doj-watchdog-report/story?id=67605418" target="_blank" rel="noopener">said</A> of the shocking IG report on the FBI’s many deceptions of the FISA court that it was “important that the inspector general found that, in this particular instance, the investigation was opened with appropriate predication and authorization.” That’s actually totally irrelevant. That Wray doesn’t seem to care that the FBI repeatedly deceives courts to spy on Americans is what’s important.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>How will the FBI react to this seemingly avalanche of damning information? The accelerating march to a Soviet-style FBI will continue unabated under the cover of lip service to correct a “failure in the process.” That’s ridiculous. Exactly what regulation needs to be changed so that the FBI stops lying to courts?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The FBI has repeatedly promised to stop illegal spying on Americans, only to increase operations. It has contempt for the court and the president’s constitutional authority to reign in these abuses. As of 2017, it used this spying to interfere with the peaceful transfer of power to a new elected president.</P><P>It’s all happening in plain sight. The legacy media, led by The New York Times, are openly</P><P>advocating making the FBI an independent agency with power over the elected president. Lying to spy on Americans is pretty much the worst thing a law enforcement agency can do, short of framing elected leaders for treason. Somebody has to go to prison, or this will get worse.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>We keep hearing “nobody is above the law.” But the FBI has repeatedly demonstrated otherwise.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>The nonsense still flows from the far right leaders through the far right press which lies like Trump. Only the&nbsp;&nbsp; enablers would think this stuff is news, thinking people know Trump is the&nbsp;worst President this country&nbsp;has ever had, and has destroyed more lives and countries than just about anyone in the history of the world. No one will have a&nbsp;happy new year till Trump is gone.</P>Thu, 26 Dec 2019 17:35:06 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211895#M941982john2582019-12-26T17:35:06ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211897#M941983
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><A title="If The FBI’s Contempt For The Law Is Not Reined In, Its Abuses Will Get Worse" href="https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/26/if-the-fbis-contempt-for-the-law-is-not-reined-in-its-abuses-will-get-worse/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">If The FBI’s Contempt For The Law Is Not Reined In, Its Abuses Will Get Worse</A></P><DIV class="subtitle"><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>The former CIA and FBI director’s article is a symptom of how the establishment media has become the propaganda arm of an increasingly robust U.S. authoritarian movement.</STRONG></EM></FONT></DIV><P>&nbsp;</P><P>BY: &nbsp;Adam Mill</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>In 2018, the U.S. government <A href="https://fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fisa/2018rept.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener">filed</A> 1,117 final applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court for authority for the FBI to conduct electronic surveillance and physical searches. One application was withdrawn. One other was denied. The remaining 1,115 were granted.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Hours before the FISA court issued a December 17 <A href="https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6600-fisa-court-demands-answers-fro/87f1132ddc399b0c99b1/optimized/full.pdf#page=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener">order</A> openly declaring that it could no longer trust <EM>any</EM> of the sworn statements the FBI had submitted to justify spying on Americans, The New York Times published an opinion <A href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/16/opinion/FBI-Trump-russia-investigation.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share" target="_blank" rel="noopener">article</A> by William Webster, a former director of both the FBI and the CIA. Webster wrote, “Today, the integrity of the institutions that protect our civil order is, tragically, under assault from too many people whose job it should be to protect them.”</P><DIV><DIV class="perma-ad-wrapper">&nbsp;</DIV></DIV><P>Gone are the days The New York Times worked to expose government abuse of power. The New York Times now defends power from truth.</P><P><FONT size="5"><STRONG>No More ‘Dissent Is Patriotism’</STRONG></FONT></P><P>Setting aside the very dubious propositions that the FBI and the CIA should be protected from criticism, let’s plumb the depths of the Webster/NYT argument. Who, according to Webster, has the job of protecting the FBI and the CIA? Webster explains exactly who he means: “I am deeply disturbed by the assertion of President Trump that our ‘current director’ — as he refers to the man he selected for the job of running the F.B.I. — cannot fix what the president calls a broken agency.”</P><P>Webster goes on to suggest that the FBI should operate as an independent agency and that he is outraged by the “president’s thinly veiled suggestion that the director, Christopher Wray, like his banished predecessor, James Comey, could be on the chopping block.” He adds, “The independence of both the F.B.I. and its director is critical and should be fiercely protected by each branch of government.” Webster goes on to make it clear that the “rule of law” is threatened by the president criticizing the FBI.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The article is a symptom of how the establishment media has become the propaganda arm of an increasingly robust authoritarian movement in the United States. This movement inverts</P><P>constitutional principles so that it becomes the president’s job to protect the FBI from criticism and his threat to fire an FBI chief is a threat to the Constitution. This is the kind of thing that Vladimir Putin might have told Tass to publish as he sought to seize power from Boris Yeltsin in the 1990s.</P><P><FONT size="5"><STRONG>Not Mistakes But Deliberate Abuse of Power</STRONG></FONT></P><DIV><DIV class="perma-ad-wrapper">&nbsp;</DIV></DIV><P>The legitimacy of the FBI is in free fall. But not its terrifying power. The biggest lie about the latest <A href="https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Office of Inspector General report</A> is that it reveals “mistakes” made by the FBI. These weren’t mistakes. The FISA court used more accurate terminology, like “misconduct.” The FBI investigators who applied for the Carter Page warrants had in their possession information that directly contradicted the basic factual requirements to apply for a surveillance warrant.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>As noted by the FISA court, “On December 9, 2019, the government filed with the FISC public and classified versions of the OIG Report…It documents troubling instances in which FBI personnel provided information…which was unsupported or contradicted by information in their possession.” These include falsely claiming dossier author Christopher Steele’s prior work was relied upon in prior criminal proceedings, doctoring evidence to hide the fact that Page was actually working for America to spy on Russia, and falsely claiming that the FBI had corroborated Steele’s work when Steele himself questioned his source’s accuracy in October 2016.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The FBI knew by October 2016 that Page denied ever meeting Paul Manafort but nevertheless told the FISA court that it believed Manafort coordinated the Trump/Russia collusion through Page. The FBI told the FISA court that Page was working directly with two Russians he denied ever meeting.</P><P><FONT size="5"><STRONG>‘They Withheld Information Detrimental to Their Case’</STRONG></FONT></P><P>Webster wrote, “In fact, the report conclusively found that the evidence to initiate the Russia investigation was unassailable.” That’s simply not true. The FISA court wrote, “The FBI’ s handling of the Carter Page applications, as portrayed in the OIG report, was antithetical to the heightened duty of candor described above. The frequency with which representations made by FBI personnel turned out to be unsupported or contradicted by information in their possession, and with which they withheld information detrimental to their case, calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable.”</P><DIV><DIV class="perma-ad-wrapper">&nbsp;</DIV></DIV><P>The FISA Court is referring to all pending FISA applications, more than 1,000 of which were initiated last year. The FISA court ordered the government to, “no later than January 10, 2020, inform the Court in a sworn written submission of what it has done, and plans to do, to ensure that the statement of facts in each FBI application accurately and completely reflects information possessed by the FBI that is material to any issue presented by the application.”</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>America is deep in the midst of a civil liberties crisis. The FISA court recently <A href="https://www.intelligence.gov/assets/documents/702%20Documents/declassified/2018_Cert_FISC_Opin_18Oct18.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener">exposed</A> a massive spying operation by the FBI using the National Security Agency’s secret database. It confirmed that under FBI Director Christopher Wray, “Since April 2017, the government has reported a large number of FBI queries that were not reasonably likely to return foreign-intelligence intonation or evidence of crime. In a number of cases, a single improper decision or assessment resulted in the use of query terms corresponding to a large number of individuals, including U.S. persons.”</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The FBI routinely violated record-keeping procedures the court established to ensure that the FBI could account for who it spied upon and why. This followed an earlier decision in which the FBI falsely certified to the FISA court that it was not abusing electronic spying. In that opinion, the FISA court accused the intelligence community of an “institutional lack of candor.”</P><P><FONT size="5"><STRONG>FBI Fights to Hide Its Misconduct</STRONG></FONT></P><P>Under Wray, the FBI has <A href="https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fbi-clashes-with-house-judiciary-chairman-bob-goodlatte-over-transcripts-deadline" target="_blank" rel="noopener">fought</A> congressional and judicial oversight. It <A href="https://amgreatness.com/2019/10/17/christopher-wray-has-some-explaining-to-do/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">fought</A> the public release of yet another damning opinion from the FISA court released earlier this year. It appears to have slowed the release of this most recent OIG report.</P><DIV><DIV class="perma-ad-wrapper">&nbsp;</DIV></DIV><P>The OIG <A href="https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/461356-justice-oig-complete-probe-on-fbi-surveillance-of-trump-campaign" target="_blank" rel="noopener">completed</A> its probe of the Page FISA warrants in mid-September of this year. Nevertheless, the FBI withheld from the FISA court shocking revelations until the last possible minute. The FBI <A href="https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/26/ig-report-shows-fbi-has-lost-control-of-its-source-network/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">slashed</A>by 85 percent its office in charge of monitoring the shady relationships between FBI agents and their confidential human sources.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>In other words, Wray has accelerated the FBI’s decline in a way more commonly associated with James Comey. One need only listen to Wray’s words to understand why. He recently <A href="https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-director-chris-wray-reacts-doj-watchdog-report/story?id=67605418" target="_blank" rel="noopener">said</A> of the shocking IG report on the FBI’s many deceptions of the FISA court that it was “important that the inspector general found that, in this particular instance, the investigation was opened with appropriate predication and authorization.” That’s actually totally irrelevant. That Wray doesn’t seem to care that the FBI repeatedly deceives courts to spy on Americans is what’s important.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>How will the FBI react to this seemingly avalanche of damning information? The accelerating march to a Soviet-style FBI will continue unabated under the cover of lip service to correct a “failure in the process.” That’s ridiculous. Exactly what regulation needs to be changed so that the FBI stops lying to courts?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The FBI has repeatedly promised to stop illegal spying on Americans, only to increase operations. It has contempt for the court and the president’s constitutional authority to reign in these abuses. As of 2017, it used this spying to interfere with the peaceful transfer of power to a new elected president.</P><P>It’s all happening in plain sight. The legacy media, led by The New York Times, are openly</P><P>advocating making the FBI an independent agency with power over the elected president. Lying to spy on Americans is pretty much the worst thing a law enforcement agency can do, short of framing elected leaders for treason. Somebody has to go to prison, or this will get worse.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>We keep hearing “nobody is above the law.” But the FBI has repeatedly demonstrated otherwise.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Boy the the orders from the leaders must have gone out yesterday to the enablers put up every article in the far right news media today. So we see tons of nonsense to distract all from Trump and his&nbsp;inability to stop telling lies, and how he has not lived a life worthy of support by the Evg sect. They say all of the Mob was in FL with Trump planing how they would move further to destroy the US, and the rest of the world. The nonsense flows from the nonsense right wing press.</P>Thu, 26 Dec 2019 17:42:42 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2211897#M941983john2582019-12-26T17:42:42ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212079#M942049
<P><FONT size="4">tRump is a Russian 'Pawn' and full disclosure of tRump's financial records from Deutsche Bank will disclose that.</FONT></P>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 11:16:31 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212079#M942049ChasKy532019-12-27T11:16:31ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212119#M942072
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="1371512"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><FONT size="4">tRump is a Russian 'Pawn' and full disclosure of tRump's financial records from Deutsche Bank will disclose that.</FONT></P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Why have you not turned over the records to the dimms for distribution? &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 15:08:52 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212119#M942072jimc912019-12-27T15:08:52ZtRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212123#M942075
<P>Remember when Republicans put America first by standing up to Russia? Not any more, the Republican Party has become the pawn of Vladimir Putin.</P>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 15:17:42 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212123#M942075CriticalThinking2019-12-27T15:17:42ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212125#M942076
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="120630"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P>Remember when Republicans put America first by standing up to Russia? Not any more, the Republican Party has become the pawn of Vladimir Putin.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Again you make me laugh out loud!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Like Obama was so tuff on Russia... &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Remember the hot mike moment " Tell Vlad I will have more flexibility after the election" ... &nbsp;Yeah that sounds so tuff and certainly not America First.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>All those&nbsp;rocks must be so very heavy...LOL</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 15:22:42 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212125#M942076jimc912019-12-27T15:22:42ZtRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212126#M942077
<P>We're talking about the Republican Party which used to take pride in their strong stance against Russia, putting America first.&nbsp;</P><UL><LI>During the 2016 Republican convention, Trump watered down the strong anti-Russian policy.</LI><LI>Trump opposed sanctions on Russia</LI><LI>Trump attacked NATO, the EEU, and dropped out of the TPP</LI><LI>Trump and the Republican Party continually push <STRONG>Vladimir's misinformation Ukraine campaign</STRONG>.&nbsp;</LI><LI>None of the above is funny. But what is pathetic, is the fact that Trump Cult members no longer put America first. Vladimir is the one who's LOL.</LI></UL>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 15:26:08 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212126#M942077CriticalThinking2019-12-27T15:26:08ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212128#M942078
<P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Another one of Obama's empty words disclaimed to the entire world... &nbsp;Remember the red line?</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Every country in the world knew Obama's threats were empty words not to be taken seriously. &nbsp;Those days are over, there is a new Sheriff&nbsp;in town.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 15:31:08 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212128#M942078jimc912019-12-27T15:31:08ZtRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212129#M942079
<P><SPAN>The&nbsp;</SPAN><STRONG>Magnitsky Act</STRONG><SPAN>, formally known as the&nbsp;</SPAN><STRONG>Russia and Moldova Jackson–Vanik Repeal and Sergei Magnitsky Rule of Law Accountability Act of 2012</STRONG><SPAN>, is a&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN>bill </SPAN><SPAN>signed into law by President Obama</SPAN><SPAN>&nbsp;in December 2012. It was impelemented to punish Russian officials responsible for the death of Russian tax accountant Sergei Magnitsky in 2009.</SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>Vladimir and his flunkies have been angry about this bill since it was passed, But don't tell any Trump Cult members about the law.</SPAN></P>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 15:37:24 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212129#M942079CriticalThinking2019-12-27T15:37:24ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212130#M942080
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Another one of Obama's empty words disclaimed to the entire world... &nbsp;Remember the red line?</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Every country in the world knew Obama's threats were empty words not to be taken seriously. &nbsp;Those days are over, there is a new Sheriff&nbsp;in town.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Not one word of what you post is true. Every Country in the world looked on Obama as a person they looked up to and could work to make a better world which he did. Have you been to any country during the Obama time in Office. I have and here is one example. In Israel we were greeted in old J going to the wailing wall by people who asked if we were Americans. We said yes and they then cheered and sang Obama, Obama to us, and said how the world was so much better for him being President. Now we have a&nbsp;mentally&nbsp;retarded mob boss&nbsp;Dictator in Trump and the world laughs at us. We went from 1st to last place. Putin beats out Trump in how the world looks at its leaders.</P>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 15:41:57 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212130#M942080john2582019-12-27T15:41:57ZtRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212131#M942081
<P>President Obama imposed a set of sanctions on people and enterprises in <STRONG>March 2014</STRONG> following the Crimean annexation, and sector-based sanctions on Russia in July 2014 following continued Russian military activities in eastern Ukraine, said Anders Åslund, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>President Obama expelled a singificant number of Russian diplomats in December 2016, he closed several Russian compounds, and made a variety of statements critical of Russia and Putin.</P>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 15:45:21 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212131#M942081CriticalThinking2019-12-27T15:45:21ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212132#M942082
The whole Russian hoax has been debunked. However.... if it helps you focus you election anxiety, from what could make you whole ,then by all means believe the lie, believe the hate, believe you're got it right.<BR /><BR />It just helps Americans see the insanity of the demolibs.Fri, 27 Dec 2019 15:48:56 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212132#M942082Fishslayer7772019-12-27T15:48:56ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212134#M942084
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="13210188"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />The whole Russian hoax has been debunked. However.... if it helps you focus you election anxiety, from what could make you whole ,then by all means believe the lie, believe the hate, believe you're got it right.<BR /><BR />It just helps Americans see the insanity of the demolibs.<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>No true. Our intel have given us the truth and proved the Russian mess true to all except to the far right Trump enablers and the child like&nbsp;Dictator and his like minded enablers.</P>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 15:52:04 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212134#M942084john2582019-12-27T15:52:04ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212141#M942088
<P>DNC intel? Lol... or AARP posts? Steel dosier?&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Again...&nbsp; the act of continuing to believe lies indicates a demolib narcissistic&nbsp;behavior, where you can't possibly be wrong. FYI... You couldn't be more wrong.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I'm embarassed for you.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 16:04:01 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212141#M942088Fishslayer7772019-12-27T16:04:01ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212142#M942089
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="1891044"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Another one of Obama's empty words disclaimed to the entire world... &nbsp;Remember the red line?</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Every country in the world knew Obama's threats were empty words not to be taken seriously. &nbsp;Those days are over, there is a new Sheriff&nbsp;in town.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Not one word of what you post is true. Every Country in the world looked on Obama as a person they looked up to and could work to make a better world which he did.&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Sure they did&nbsp;<LI-USER uid="1891044"></LI-USER>&nbsp;, they all knew he was a very weak President and they could walk all over him! &nbsp;Which they did! &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>What did he do about Russia invading Ukraine? &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Where were you?</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 16:04:03 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212142#M942089jimc912019-12-27T16:04:03ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212144#M942090
The whole russian thing.... it's symptom of a disease that demolibs can't cure. In fact the symptom gives cover to the real illness, hate. The malignancy of hate is off the chart, seems to have not end, and manifest as same symptom over and over. Common word is russian. Common thought is hate and the process... doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results... everyone knows what that is... right?<BR />Enter Russia Collusion, the Ukraine sequel. The demolibs followed the exact same playbook by accusing Trump of a crime (Ukraine "quid pro quo"), and then turning the accusation over to a politically allied legal official (Adam Schiff), and then having the politically loyal official (who understands the real purpose of the initial accusation) look for (and create) any crime on anybody associated with Trump at any time in history.<BR /><BR />Rinse - lather - repeatFri, 27 Dec 2019 16:15:27 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212144#M942090Fishslayer7772019-12-27T16:15:27ZtRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212154#M942094
<P>Trump Cult members live in an alternate reality bubble where facts and the truth are irrelevant. For example, U.S. Intellgence Agencies advised the Senate Intelligence Committee the Ukraine Meddling theory was a <STRONG>Mis-Information Plot concocted by Russian Intellgence.&nbsp;</STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>But since Trump World is no longer concerned about protecting America, they repeatedly push Vladimir's bogus plot.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>There is only one thing Trump Cult members care about and that's protecting their Supreme Leader, just as if we were living in North Korea.</P>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 17:27:52 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212154#M942094CriticalThinking2019-12-27T17:27:52ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212169#M942104
so hating our adversary, Russia and not wanting any more interference allowed in our elections again is a disease related to hate?? Wow. You guys used to hate Russia as much as we did, so what happened??? LOL.Fri, 27 Dec 2019 18:20:28 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212169#M942104Tom56782019-12-27T18:20:28ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212174#M942108
<P>Fishslayer777<BR />&nbsp; The whole russian thing.... it's symptom of a disease......<BR />***************************************************************************<BR /><BR /><FONT color="#ff0000"><STRONG>YES IT IS FISHSLAYER &nbsp; !!! &nbsp;&nbsp;</STRONG></FONT></P><P><BR /><STRONG>As the "useful idiot"&nbsp; recently.... T rump became even more devoted to&nbsp; Russia &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; . Deutsche Bank has T rump’s taxes — and loan applications cosigned by Russian oligarchs...(.couldn't get loans in USA cause of bad credit in USA ...T RUMP doesn't pay his bills ) .</STRONG></P><P><BR /><STRONG><A href="http://www.dailywire.com/news/report-when-plagued-bankruptcies-trump-turned-hank-berrien" target="_blank">www.dailywire.com/news/report-when-plagued-bankruptcies-trump-turned-hank-berrien</A></STRONG><BR /><STRONG>T rump’s love affair with Russia began in the 1980’s when he visited Moscow to discuss renovating hotels there. &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; When his efforts to build in Russia failed, he and his children pursued the oligarchs who had been permitted to purchase state-owned companies after the fall of the Soviet Union.</STRONG></P>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 18:32:39 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212174#M942108JANMB2019-12-27T18:32:39ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212176#M942109
Trump fell in love with Russia early as you pointed out Jan. Putin was tipped early about this one, from all of his many visits going back many decades. Putin did his homework with Donny. He could not have picked anyone who has done any better job of ripping the country apart at its seams, IMO. That's why Russia wants him to win again in 2020, and we must not allow this to happen, AGAIN.Fri, 27 Dec 2019 18:36:33 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212176#M942109Tom56782019-12-27T18:36:33ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212194#M942117
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="2462198"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />so hating our adversary, Russia and not wanting any more interference allowed in our elections again is a disease related to hate?? Wow. You guys used to hate Russia as much as we did, so what happened??? LOL.<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Your reading comprehension... needs improvement.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 19:57:55 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212194#M942117Fishslayer7772019-12-27T19:57:55ZtRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212197#M942118
<P>One of the characteristics of a cult is DENIAL. They can deny it all day long, but we know the Republican Party no longer perceives Russia as an adversary. Just review the foreign affairs policies of Comrade Trump since he's been in office.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG>The Russian Ukraine Dis-Information campaign is a class example. Before Trump, Republicans would be making fun of anyone who fell for that intelligence scam.</STRONG> But under Trump, cult members must adhere to the policies of their Supreme Leader and act as if Ukraine actually cared about the 2016 U.S. election. I'm LOL.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The above is almost as funny as Trump pretending he cared about corruption in Ukraine. Are you kidding me?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Yes, Vladimir goes to sleep every night knowing Trump is a useful idiot for the Russians, along with his cult members.</P>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 20:06:34 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212197#M942118CriticalThinking2019-12-27T20:06:34ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212209#M942125
and your guys accepting of an adversary to use in order to win an election has room for improvement too.Fri, 27 Dec 2019 20:47:16 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212209#M942125Tom56782019-12-27T20:47:16ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212210#M942126
The two biggest traits are denial and ignorance IMO.Fri, 27 Dec 2019 20:47:57 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212210#M942126Tom56782019-12-27T20:47:57ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212226#M942130
<P><LI-USER uid="639942"></LI-USER>&nbsp;Thanks for providing more historical information concerning trump. And after reading the entire thread, thanks to others for providing real perspectives to the realities of trump.&nbsp;<BR />It's way past time for trump supporters to focus on their support of trump...if they support someone who is a threat to our Country, by backing and conveying their support of trump, do they not become part of that threat? They claim that we are hateful towards trump, that is not true. But, while speaking of truth, would they be honest enough to admit that they have chosen party over Country?</P><P>Those of us who have chosen Country, have a right to ask that question...do they choose Country...it doesn't sound like it...to choose party is to support trump and putin...isn't putin an adversary that is interfering in the security of Our Country, which trump supports?<BR />And their choice is?</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 22:16:43 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212226#M942130williamb391982019-12-27T22:16:43ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212277#M942156
<P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">Still waiting for someone from the lunitic fringe to point out what event I catalogued in describing how we know donny is Putin's Puppet that did NOT happen.</FONT></STRONG></P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">Did the KGB begin a dossier on lil donny Bonespurs when he married a Czech national - Ivana? YES! We have the actual files the Czech Secret Police maintained&nbsp; since 1977.</FONT></STRONG></P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">Did donny wind up unable to borrow money even at junk bond rates because of his serial bankruptcies? YES!</FONT></STRONG></P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">Do we have PROOF that Deutsche Bank loaned donny hundreds of millions? YES</FONT></STRONG></P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">Do we have PROOF DB was convicted of laundrying billions for Russian Mob Oligarchs and Government? YES!</FONT></STRONG></P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">Do we have PROOF donny was treated like royality when he visited Moscow to discuss his Trump Tower project? YES!</FONT></STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">and most importantly, do we have PROOF donny has shifted the entire thrust of the Republican Party Platform AND his administration's entire foreign policy to one favoring RUSSIA? YES!</FONT></STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">So, considering the fact most murder convictions happen on the basis of CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence, how can GOPers deny the CIRCUMSTANTIAL PROOF that their ToadPOTUS is a totally compromised tool of Vlad Putin?</FONT></STRONG></P>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 01:33:08 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212277#M942156Olderscout662019-12-28T01:33:08ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212283#M942159
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="639942"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">Still waiting for someone from the lunitic fringe to point out what event I catalogued in describing how we know donny is Putin's Puppet that did NOT happen.</FONT></STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>It still looks like a work of FICTION since there are NO references or citations to support the statements made by&nbsp;<LI-USER uid="639942"></LI-USER>&nbsp;... &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>I am suppose to consider your words "Facts" simply because "You said so" ??? &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Welcome to the information age, the burden proof lies with you the writer and in this case the "accuser". &nbsp;It is incumbent&nbsp;on you to provide the proof or evidence if you are to be believed. &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>No Sources...It's a work of FICTION and also just a rant. </STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>&nbsp;I know you hate the President.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 01:56:08 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212283#M942159jimc912019-12-28T01:56:08ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212293#M942164
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="1371512"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><FONT size="4">tRump is a Russian 'Pawn' and full disclosure of tRump's financial records from Deutsche Bank will disclose that.</FONT></P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Why have you not turned over the records to the dimms for distribution? &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="4">The only ones I know that are "dimm" are tRump supporters. The courts will be ruling on Deutsche bank releasing tRump's financial records, which have been subpoenaed.</FONT></P>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 02:26:34 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212293#M942164ChasKy532019-12-28T02:26:34ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212294#M942165
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Every country in the world knew Obama's threats were empty words not to be taken seriously. &nbsp;Those days are over, there is a new Sheriff&nbsp;in town.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="4">Kim Jong Un has no respect for the "new sheriff" or his "empty words", just like most all other countries don't. It seems that trump's words are the ones that are "empty".</FONT></P>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 02:32:10 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212294#M942165ChasKy532019-12-28T02:32:10ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212455#M942261
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="1891044"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Another one of Obama's empty words disclaimed to the entire world... &nbsp;Remember the red line?</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Every country in the world knew Obama's threats were empty words not to be taken seriously. &nbsp;Those days are over, there is a new Sheriff&nbsp;in town.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Not one word of what you post is true. Every Country in the world looked on Obama as a person they looked up to and could work to make a better world which he did.&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Sure they did&nbsp;<LI-USER uid="1891044"></LI-USER>&nbsp;, they all knew he was a very weak President and they could walk all over him! &nbsp;Which they did! &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>What did he do about Russia invading Ukraine? &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Where were you?</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Dream on. Truth is something the enablers know nothing about. You are asking questions again. Why do you support Trump when he rapped his wife. Answer me first.</P>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 22:37:45 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212455#M942261john2582019-12-28T22:37:45ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212456#M942262
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="1371512"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Every country in the world knew Obama's threats were empty words not to be taken seriously. &nbsp;Those days are over, there is a new Sheriff&nbsp;in town.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="4">Kim Jong Un has no respect for the "new sheriff" or his "empty words", just like most all other countries don't. It seems that trump's words are the ones that are "empty".</FONT></P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>I beg to differ... &nbsp;Where is the "Christmas Gift" little rocket man was talking about? &nbsp;Operative word... TALKING. &nbsp;At this point he knows better; Because he knows he is not dealing with Obama, the weakest president since Carter.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 22:37:50 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212456#M942262jimc912019-12-28T22:37:50ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212458#M942263
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="13210188"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P>DNC intel? Lol... or AARP posts? Steel dosier?&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Again...&nbsp; the act of continuing to believe lies indicates a demolib narcissistic&nbsp;behavior, where you can't possibly be wrong. FYI... You couldn't be more wrong.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I'm embarassed for you.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>You are correct and all the of the Trump enablers fit that as truth is something they never get&nbsp;from their leaders or pass on to anyone. All thinking people know that.</P>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 22:39:27 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212458#M942263john2582019-12-28T22:39:27ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212459#M942264
tRump is a Russian Pawn<BR /><BR />If you mean our President Trump the answer is no.Sat, 28 Dec 2019 22:46:55 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212459#M942264KidBoy22019-12-28T22:46:55ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212499#M942286
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="739192"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />tRump is a Russian Pawn<BR /><BR />If you mean our President Trump the answer is no.<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>No I mean our mob boss&nbsp;Dictator Trump the&nbsp;mentally&nbsp;impaired leader of the enablers. Why is your answer no.</P>Sun, 29 Dec 2019 02:41:38 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212499#M942286john2582019-12-29T02:41:38ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212634#M942363
<P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">Apparently FOX is not covering lil donny's Russia Connections, and our rightwing fringe inhabitants cannot Google, so here's a primer for those Trumpettes who would actually look for actual facts instead of swallowing whatever the GOPerLords spoon into them:</FONT></STRONG></P><P><FONT size="4"><STRONG>SEARCH: Czech secret service file on Trump</STRONG></FONT></P><DIV><P>&nbsp;</P><DIV><P>About 5,700,000 results (0.65 seconds)&nbsp;</P></DIV></DIV><DIV><P>&nbsp;</P></DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV>Search Results<DIV>Web results <A href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/29/czechoslovakia-spied-on-trump-to-exploit-ties-to-highest-echelons-of-us-power" target="_blank" rel="noopener">inside the Czech spying operation on Trump - The Guardian</A><P>&nbsp;</P><P><A href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/29/czechoslovakia-spied-on-trump-to-exploit-ties-to-highest-echelons-of-us-power" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.theguardian.com › us-news › oct › czechoslovakia-spied-on-tr...</A></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><P>Oct 29, 2018 - He was also, we now know, the target of an extensive spying operation conducted by <EM>Czechoslovakia’s</EM> Státní bezpečnost (StB) <EM>intelligence service</EM> – together with “friends” from the KGB.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><STRONG>SEARCH: Trump unable to borrow from Western banks</STRONG></FONT></P><P>About 3,560,000 results (0.48 seconds)&nbsp;</P><P><A href="https://themoscowproject.org/collusion/banks-refuse-lend-trump-citing-donald-risk/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Mid-1990s: Banks Refuse to Lend to Trump, Citing "The ...</A></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><A href="https://themoscowproject.org/collusion/banks-refuse-lend-trump-citing-donald-risk/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://themoscowproject.org › collusion › banks-refuse-lend-trump-citing-...</A></P><P>He needs money, and turns to two sources: Deutsche <EM>Bank</EM> and Bayrock Group. ... <EM>Banks</EM> Refuse to <EM>Lend</EM> to <EM>Trump</EM>, Citing “The Donald Risk” ... crisis and, by extension, <EM>Trump's inability</EM> to repay the <EM>loan</EM></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><STRONG>SEARCH: Deutsche Bank convicted of laundering billions for Russian Oligarchs</STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><A href="https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/apr/17/deutsche-bank-faces-action-over-20bn-russian-money-laundering-scheme" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Deutsche Bank faces action over $20bn Russian money ...</A></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><A href="https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/apr/17/deutsche-bank-faces-action-over-20bn-russian-money-laundering-scheme" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.theguardian.com › business › apr › deutsche-bank-faces-actio...</A></P><P>Apr 17, 2019 - <EM>Deutsche Bank</EM> was embroiled in a vast money-<EM>laundering</EM> operation, ... with <EM>billions</EM> transferred to Moldova and the Baltics via a bank in Latvia.</P><DIV><P>&nbsp;</P></DIV><P><A href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=2&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjl4sK60NvmAhXJBc0KHUDyDLMQFjABegQIAxAB&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fmoney.cnn.com%2F2017%2F01%2F31%2Finvesting%2Fdeutsche-bank-us-fine-russia-money-laundering%2Findex.html&amp;usg=AOvVaw2g1zq6MgLQObpQZR-16al8" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Deutsche Bank fined for $10 billion Russian money ... - Business</A></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><A href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=2&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjl4sK60NvmAhXJBc0KHUDyDLMQFjABegQIAxAB&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fmoney.cnn.com%2F2017%2F01%2F31%2Finvesting%2Fdeutsche-bank-us-fine-russia-money-laundering%2Findex.html&amp;usg=AOvVaw2g1zq6MgLQObpQZR-16al8" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://money.cnn.com › deutsche-bank-us-fine-russia-money-laundering</A></P><P><EM>Deutsche Bank</EM> fined for $10 <EM>billion Russian</EM> money-<EM>laundering</EM> scheme. By Jethro Mullen January 31, 2017: 5:32 AM ET. The big fines keep coming for&nbsp;...</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><STRONG>SEARCH: Trump given official Government welcome to Moscow in 1997</STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV><P>About 962,000 results (0.49 seconds)&nbsp;</P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV>Search Results<DIV>Web results <A href="https://themoscowproject.org/collusion-chapter/chapter-1/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Chapter 1 - The Moscow Project</A><P>&nbsp;</P><P><A href="https://themoscowproject.org/collusion-chapter/chapter-1/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://themoscowproject.org › collusion-chapter › chapter-1</A></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><P>Donald <EM>Trump</EM> may not have any business in Russia, but Russia certainly has ... (<EM>Trump</EM> Organization has repeatedly denied, both in <EM>specific</EM> cases and in ... act on the <EM>government's</EM> behalf and where the line between <EM>government officials</EM> and ... With the collapse of the Russian economy in <EM>1998</EM>, Russian oligarchs who</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Sun, 29 Dec 2019 20:04:30 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212634#M942363Olderscout662019-12-29T20:04:30ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212643#M942366
<P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Now I get it...&nbsp;<LI-USER uid="639942"></LI-USER>&nbsp;, Is writing fiction for the Moscow Project that was founded by a convicted felon for stabbing a man in the face... &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>To each his own I suppose.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Sun, 29 Dec 2019 20:46:58 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212643#M942366jimc912019-12-29T20:46:58ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212649#M942371
deny, deny, deny, deny. Sad!Sun, 29 Dec 2019 21:19:31 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212649#M942371Tom56782019-12-29T21:19:31ZtRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212650#M942372
<P>Trump implements the foreign policies Vladimir wants.</P>Sun, 29 Dec 2019 21:20:15 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212650#M942372CriticalThinking2019-12-29T21:20:15ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212652#M942373
boy doesn't he though. Funny how Russia has not even tested Trump ONCE in the past 4 years...hmmmm I wonder why???????Sun, 29 Dec 2019 21:23:31 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212652#M942373Tom56782019-12-29T21:23:31ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212673#M942387
<P><LI-USER uid="639942"></LI-USER>&nbsp;</P><P>Great points. But, something that I think gets overlooked...putin, and the oligarchs have stolen the russia people blind, to become multi-billionaires, while setting up a corrupt dictatorship, which is now overflowing into the US.&nbsp;<BR />There is no doubt why the corrupt trump government is so supportive of the corrupt putin government...yet, trump supporters deny this connection, or hide from the facts and the corruption.&nbsp;<BR />Criminals hang with other criminals, don't they!</P>Sun, 29 Dec 2019 22:28:05 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212673#M942387williamb391982019-12-29T22:28:05ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212675#M942389
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><FONT size="3"><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:</FONT><BR /><P><FONT size="3"><EM><STRONG>Now I get it...&nbsp;<LI-USER uid="639942"></LI-USER>&nbsp;, Is writing fiction for the Moscow Project that was founded by a convicted felon for stabbing a man in the face... &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="3"><EM><STRONG>To each his own I suppose.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><STRONG><FONT size="4" color="#000080">jimc - You FORGOT to mention tRump was a business partner with Felix Sater, the face-stabbing Russian who appears in a number of photo's with your smiling buffoon of a ToadPOTUS.</FONT></STRONG></P><DIV class="content-list-component yr-content-list-text text"><P><SPAN>Sater has a long-running association with the Trumps. He has worked </SPAN><A href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/former-mafia-linked-figure-describes-association-with-trump/2016/05/17/cec6c2c6-16d3-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html?utm_term=.201174c15aa4" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><SPAN>in Trump’s towers</SPAN></A><SPAN> on Fifth Avenue and Wall Street, and carried a Trump Organization business card identifying himself as a senior adviser to Trump. He financed Trump properties while working at Bayrock, a company with ties to an </SPAN><A href="https://www.ft.com/content/33285dfa-9231-11e6-8df8-d3778b55a923" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><SPAN>alleged money laundering</SPAN></A><SPAN> scheme. He has even boasted about searching for new Trump-branded </SPAN><A href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/16/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-business.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><SPAN>ventures in Russia</SPAN></A><SPAN> with Ivanka and Donald Jr., and worked with Trump’s personal lawyer to backchannel a Russian-backed Ukraine peace plan </SPAN><A href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/us/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-russia.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><SPAN>to the White House</SPAN></A><SPAN>.</SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG><FONT color="#000080">If you're interested, here's what happens when you GOOGLE <EM>Trump - Felix Sater connection:</EM></FONT></STRONG></P><DIV class="appbar"><DIV><DIV><DIV class="ab_tnav_wrp"><DIV><DIV><FONT color="#000080"><STRONG><FONT size="5">About 81,700 results (0.43 seconds)&nbsp;</FONT></STRONG></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV class="g"><DIV><DIV class="rc"><DIV class="s"><DIV><SPAN class="st"><SPAN class="f">May 17, 2019 - </SPAN><EM>Felix Sater</EM>, a Russian-born businessman with a checkered past, ... 2019, where the president's former lawyer suggested <EM>Trump</EM> lied under oath&nbsp;...</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><DIV class="g"><DIV><DIV class="rc"><DIV class="r">Felix Sater, Trump Associate, Skips House Hearing and Now ...<A href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/21/us/politics/felix-sater-hearing.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><BR /></A><DIV class="TbwUpd"><A href="https://www.nytimes.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.nytimes.com</A> › 2019/06/21 › politics › felix-sater-hearing</DIV></DIV><DIV class="s"><DIV><SPAN class="st"><SPAN class="f">Jun 21, 2019 - </SPAN><EM>Felix Sater</EM>, <EM>Trump</EM> Associate, Skips House Hearing and Now Faces a ... Mr. Sater used his deep <EM>connections</EM> in Russia to help the <EM>Trump</EM>&nbsp;...</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><DIV class="g"><DIV><DIV class="rc"><DIV class="r">Felix Sater - Wikipedia<A href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Sater" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><BR /></A><DIV class="TbwUpd"><A href="https://en.wikipedia.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://en.wikipedia.org</A> › wiki › Felix_Sater</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><DIV><SPAN class="st"><SPAN class="f">Jump to <A href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Sater#Involvement_with_Trump_Organization_during_presidential_campaign" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Involvement with <STRONG>Trump</STRONG> Organization during presidential ...</A> - </SPAN><EM>Felix</EM> Henry <EM>Sater</EM> /ˈseɪtər is a Russian-American .... He boasted to Cohen about his <EM>connections</EM> to Vladimir Putin, saying in an email to Cohen on November 13,&nbsp;.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>Sun, 29 Dec 2019 22:47:28 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212675#M942389Olderscout662019-12-29T22:47:28ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212680#M942394
CriticalThinking (sic) posted this gem...<BR /><BR />Trump implements the foreign policies Vladimir wants.<BR /><BR />========================================================<BR /><BR />That was funny..critical thinking....NOT!!Sun, 29 Dec 2019 23:08:52 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212680#M942394KidBoy22019-12-29T23:08:52ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212681#M942395
we don't think its funny either, nor do we think working with Russia in order to win an election is funny either. Russia's goal is our demise, and in Trump Putin picked extremely well, unfortunately, as he does Putins bidding as Critical Thinking has pointed out.Sun, 29 Dec 2019 23:12:22 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212681#M942395Tom56782019-12-29T23:12:22ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212683#M942397
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="2462198"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />we don't think its funny either, nor do we think <STRONG>working with Russia in order to win an election</STRONG> is funny either. Russia's goal is our demise, and in Trump Putin picked extremely well, unfortunately, as he does Putins bidding as Critical Thinking has pointed out.<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>I thought you read the Mueller report! &nbsp;What you just posted does not line up with Mr. Mueller's findings, so which is it? &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Is Mueller lying or are you?</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><U><FONT size="5"><STRONG>Remember:</STRONG></FONT></U></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG><SPAN>Special Counsel found no evidence that any Americans – including anyone associated with the Trump campaign – conspired or coordinated with the Russian government or the IRA in carrying out this illegal scheme. Indeed, as the report states, “[t]he investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons knowingly or intentionally coordinated with the IRA’s interference operation.” Put another way, the Special Counsel found no “collusion” by any Americans in the IRA’s illegal activity.</SPAN></STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Sun, 29 Dec 2019 23:25:24 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212683#M942397jimc912019-12-29T23:25:24ZtRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212685#M942399
<P>The Mueller Report said there was no crimiinal conspiracy but <STRONG>Trump welcomed Russian interference and never did anything about it.&nbsp;</STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG>Equally important, Trump implemented several pro Vladimir polcies</STRONG>. The latest one is pushing the Russian Dis-Informaiton campaign that Ukraine conspired to interfere in the U.S. election. If you have any intelligence at all, ask yourself why Ukraine would want to interfere in the U.S. election.&nbsp;</P>Sun, 29 Dec 2019 23:48:08 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212685#M942399CriticalThinking2019-12-29T23:48:08ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212687#M942401
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="120630"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P>The Mueller Report said there was no crimiinal conspiracy but <STRONG>Trump welcomed Russian interference and never did anything about it.&nbsp;</STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG>Equally important, Trump implemented several pro Vladimir polcies</STRONG>. The latest one is pushing the Russian Dis-Informaiton campaign that Ukraine conspired to interfere in the U.S. election. If you have any intelligence at all, ask yourself why Ukraine would want to interfere in the U.S. election.&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>TOO FUNNY!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Obama was the President and you are right he did NOTHING to stop it. &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>It's OK though US Attorney John Durham is looking closely&nbsp;at all of this mess leading up to what predicated the Mueller Probe. &nbsp;It's about time!!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Sun, 29 Dec 2019 23:52:13 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212687#M942401jimc912019-12-29T23:52:13ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212689#M942403
Tom5678 posted..<BR /><BR />we don't think its funny either, nor do we think working with Russia in order to win an election is funny either. Russia's goal is our demise, and in Trump Putin picked extremely well, unfortunately, as he does Putins bidding as Critical Thinking has pointed out.<BR /><BR />==========================================================<BR /><BR />". Russia's goal is our demise, and in Trump Putin picked extremely well, unfortunately, as he does Putins bidding as Critical Thinking has pointed out"<BR /><BR />How can you say that?<BR /><BR />I think its a good thing that Trump talks to Putin.<BR /><BR />Sun, 29 Dec 2019 23:55:29 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212689#M942403KidBoy22019-12-29T23:55:29ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212690#M942404
The report pointed out Russias interference in the 2016 election, and oh by the way that includes TRump, lol! And I don't accept Barr's conclusion fwiw. I prefer Muellers complete findings, did you read it?? All some 400 plus pages.Sun, 29 Dec 2019 23:58:00 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212690#M942404Tom56782019-12-29T23:58:00ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212691#M942405
because I read kid, you should try it sometime, lol!!Sun, 29 Dec 2019 23:59:12 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212691#M942405Tom56782019-12-29T23:59:12ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212692#M942406
oh and I don't think its a good thing Trump talks to his handler...why? I don't trust EITHER of those individuals. Sorry.Sun, 29 Dec 2019 23:59:59 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212692#M942406Tom56782019-12-29T23:59:59ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212694#M942408
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="2462198"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />The report pointed out Russias interference in the 2016 election, and oh by the way that includes TRump, lol! And I don't accept Barr's conclusion fwiw. I prefer Muellers complete findings, did you read it?? All some 400 plus pages.<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Mueller punted and refused to draw a conclusion. &nbsp;The AG did and that is what the official DOJ position here. &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>That is the reason Shifty Schiff and Nodding Nadler did not use any of the Mueller Probe findings in the Articles of Impeachment. &nbsp;I pointed this out to you before... &nbsp;You are still losing this debate because the facts are just the facts. &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Mon, 30 Dec 2019 00:04:39 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212694#M942408jimc912019-12-30T00:04:39ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212695#M942409
<P>Deny, dissuade, distract...the common trump supporter defense!</P><P>Mueller stated that russia interfered...</P><P>that's the facts! They are interfering with our Country's security.&nbsp;<BR />trump supporters also support putin...</P><P>how UnPatriotic, and treasonous! To support an adversary and promote their cause.&nbsp;</P>Mon, 30 Dec 2019 00:05:24 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212695#M942409williamb391982019-12-30T00:05:24ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212696#M942410
here you go Jim, my preferred "summary" of the Mueller findings.Enjoy!<BR /><BR /><A href="https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/" target="_blank">https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/</A>Mon, 30 Dec 2019 00:06:30 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212696#M942410Tom56782019-12-30T00:06:30ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212697#M942411
now william as you know those under the spell of the Trump cult NEVER let the facts or truth cloud their judgement. Ever. They prefer dis Information. and CON spiracy theories.Mon, 30 Dec 2019 00:08:03 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212697#M942411Tom56782019-12-30T00:08:03ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212698#M942412
read the FACTS in my post with the Mueller link Jim.Mon, 30 Dec 2019 00:09:12 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212698#M942412Tom56782019-12-30T00:09:12ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212702#M942416
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="2462198"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />read the FACTS in my post with the Mueller link Jim.<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>So all you actually read, was a summary written by people that tell others what to think... &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Now I understand. &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>LOL!! &nbsp;Again!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Mon, 30 Dec 2019 00:41:19 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212702#M942416jimc912019-12-30T00:41:19ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212704#M942418
your interpretation sounds awfully familiar Jim, LOL!!Mon, 30 Dec 2019 00:45:40 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212704#M942418Tom56782019-12-30T00:45:40ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212705#M942419
and no that summary was NOT like Fox News, LOL!!!Mon, 30 Dec 2019 00:46:13 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212705#M942419Tom56782019-12-30T00:46:13ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212706#M942420
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="2462198"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />here you go Jim, my preferred "summary" of the Mueller findings.Enjoy!<BR /><BR /><A href="https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/</A><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Now this is rich... &nbsp;Your Preferred Summary???&nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Look at the Board of Directors, certainly no bias there... Right...</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><STRONG>Harry Baumgarten</STRONG></FONT></P><P class="position"><STRONG>Director of Strategic Engagement</STRONG></P><P class="position">&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG>Harry Baumgarten</STRONG> joined ACS in May 2019 as Director of Strategic Engagement. His work focuses on judicial nominations before the U.S. Senate and strengthening the ACS professional pipeline.</P><P><STRONG>During more than three years in Congress, Baumgarten served as Legislative Director and Counsel to <FONT size="5"><U>Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz</U></FONT> and Acting Legislative Director and Counsel to Congresswoman Yvette Clarke.</STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Why do people look to others to tell them what they should think rather than drawing their own conclusions of a report that is readily available to read for everyone with the interest to actually know the truth. &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Mueller reached NO CONCLUSION. &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>He punted it to the AG and the AG made a conclusion that you don't like so you look to an associate of Debbie Wasserman- Schultz to explain it.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>There you have it... No bias there huh... ???</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Now that's just TOO FUNNY!!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Mon, 30 Dec 2019 01:05:37 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212706#M942420jimc912019-12-30T01:05:37ZtRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212726#M942431
<P>Trump Cult members live in an alternate reality bubble where facts and the truth are irrelevant. In their world, the Mueller Report completely exonerated their Supreme Leader in the White House.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>For the rest of us, we know exactly what the Mueller Report said about Trump.</P>Mon, 30 Dec 2019 02:43:40 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212726#M942431CriticalThinking2019-12-30T02:43:40ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212728#M942432
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="120630"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG>For the rest of us, we know exactly what the Mueller Report said about Trump.</STRONG></P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Again, I ask you the same question... &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>If what you say is true then why did NONE of the Mueller Report find its way into the Articles of Impeachment? &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Because NONE of it was credible evidence of any high crime!!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>You folks really need to learn from your many mistakes and move on into the future and stop living in the past dust bin of history... &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>It's over!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Mon, 30 Dec 2019 02:52:57 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212728#M942432jimc912019-12-30T02:52:57ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212742#M942435
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="120630"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG>For the rest of us, we know exactly what the Mueller Report said about Trump.</STRONG></P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Again, I ask you the same question... &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>If what you say is true then why did NONE of the Mueller Report find its way into the Articles of Impeachment? &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Because NONE of it was credible evidence of any high crime!!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>You folks really need to learn from your many mistakes and move on into the future and stop living in the past dust bin of history... &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>It's over!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Here are some facts for you. Muller laid out at least 10 crimes Trump committed. The report said congress could carry the&nbsp;cases forwarded through impeachment, or Trump could be tried in court after he left office for them. Over 150 experts in the law area agreed with Muller, and said the report showed more which could be carried to trial. The Muller report was to the AG not Congress. To date Congress has not gotten the unredacted Muller report so they choose to use charges they developed. You have no basis in fact for what you say, and you have no understanding of the subject. It is not over far from it. Trump is a proven pawn of Putin.</P>Mon, 30 Dec 2019 04:29:19 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212742#M942435john2582019-12-30T04:29:19ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212743#M942436
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>It's over!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="4">Yep "it's over". The days of rational thought from the extreme right are over.</FONT></P>Mon, 30 Dec 2019 04:32:19 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212743#M942436ChasKy532019-12-30T04:32:19ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212752#M942440
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="1891044"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BLOCKQUOTE><LI-USER uid="120630"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>If what you say is true then why did NONE of the Mueller Report find its way into the Articles of Impeachment?</STRONG></EM></FONT><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG><BR /></STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Because NONE of it was credible evidence of any high crime!!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4" color="#666699"><STRONG>Mueller's findings of crimes could not result in any indictments against Mr.Rump.</STRONG></FONT></P><P><FONT size="4" color="#666699"><STRONG>That's what Impeachment is for, is doing, with "credible evidence".</STRONG></FONT></P><P><FONT size="4" color="#666699"><STRONG>Enough evidence to support Mueller's (tossing people in jail) and then again enough evidence to form Articles of Impeachment against the sitting president.</STRONG></FONT></P><P><FONT size="4" color="#666699"><STRONG>This is exactly what the rule-of-law requires.</STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>It's over!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P><FONT size="4" color="#666699"><STRONG>LOL....again with the lame "projection".&nbsp; GetSmart. </STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Over 150 experts in the law area agreed with Muller, and said the report showed more which could be carried to trial. The Muller report was to the AG not Congress. To date Congress has not gotten the unredacted Muller report so they choose to use charges they developed. You have no basis in fact for what you say, and you have no understanding of the subject. It is not over far from it. Trump is a proven pawn of Putin.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Mon, 30 Dec 2019 06:04:43 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212752#M942440oceanedge22019-12-30T06:04:43ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212754#M942441
<P><IMG src="https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/80481609_168517834540113_9008784595889422336_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&amp;_nc_ohc=CKEQkmiJ2p8AQmkuw990bRyKBB6wNET9Xfru-TQg-F_of_teQrVL63HLg&amp;_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&amp;oh=456d6b5e0e08b854d4d289325392eff6&amp;oe=5EB193D5" alt="Image may contain: 1 person" border="0" /></P>Mon, 30 Dec 2019 06:43:34 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212754#M942441oceanedge22019-12-30T06:43:34ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212770#M942445
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="1891044"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="120630"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG>For the rest of us, we know exactly what the Mueller Report said about Trump.</STRONG></P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Again, I ask you the same question... &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>If what you say is true then why did NONE of the Mueller Report find its way into the Articles of Impeachment? &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Because NONE of it was credible evidence of any high crime!!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>You folks really need to learn from your many mistakes and move on into the future and stop living in the past dust bin of history... &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>It's over!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;You have no basis in fact for what you say, and you have no understanding of the subject. It is not over far from it. Trump is a proven pawn of Putin.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>You are wrong... &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>The House <U>did NOT include</U> any of the Mueller Report information in the articles of impeachment. &nbsp;That's a fact. &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Please point out where I am wrong.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>It's over... Move on to something that is relevant&nbsp;<LI-USER uid="1891044"></LI-USER>&nbsp;, because your rant is not.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Mon, 30 Dec 2019 09:50:28 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212770#M942445jimc912019-12-30T09:50:28ZtRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212784#M942450
<P>Although the Mueller Report found no evidence of a criminal conspiracy, it said Trump welcomed Russian interference in the electiion (you saw him on television asking for help from Russia) and he never did anything about it. In fact, he spent the last 3 years denyng it happened.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>In addition, the Mueller Report found <STRONG>10 examples where Trump obstructed justice.</STRONG>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>But in the alternate reality bubble of Trump World, where facts and the truth are irrelevant, Trump was exonerated by the report&nbsp; That's because in a cult, protecting the supreme leader is more important thant anything else.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Comrade Trump is definitely a pawn of Vladimir.</P>Mon, 30 Dec 2019 13:03:50 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212784#M942450CriticalThinking2019-12-30T13:03:50ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212787#M942452
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="120630"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P>Although the Mueller Report found no evidence of a criminal conspiracy, it said Trump welcomed Russian interference in the electiion(SIC) (you saw him on television asking for help from Russia) and he never did anything about it. In fact, he spent the last 3 years denyng(SIC) it happened.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>In addition, the Mueller Report found <STRONG>10 examples where Trump obstructed justice.</STRONG>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>In <U>REALITY,</U> Mueller found <U>NO</U> high crimes that rise to the level of impeachment. &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>You can bet the farm, if it did, the House would have used it in the articles of impeachment. &nbsp;Instead, shifty Schiff and nodding&nbsp;Nadler, fabricated two crimes that nervous Nancy is afraid to send to the Senate. &nbsp;She knows they are so weak, Trump is guaranteed&nbsp;a <U>BI-Partisan Acquittal</U>,&nbsp;during the Trial process of this sham impeachment. &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>When will the democrats in the House go back to work on issues that are important to the voters?</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Mon, 30 Dec 2019 13:00:29 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212787#M942452jimc912019-12-30T13:00:29ZtRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212788#M942453
<P>If you don't live in the fantasy world of Trump Cult members, where he can do no wrong, you can research and get the FACTS in the Meuller Report. And those facts clearly cite <STRONG>10 examples where Comrade Trump obstructed justice.&nbsp;</STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Just because the Dems are too stupid to use those ten examples, doesn't mean it didn't happen.</P>Mon, 30 Dec 2019 13:06:10 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212788#M942453CriticalThinking2019-12-30T13:06:10ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212792#M942456
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="120630"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Just because the Dems(sic) are too stupid to use those ten examples, doesn't mean it didn't happen.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Have you considered running for office since as you say, "the Democrats&nbsp;are too stupid" ,to use the 10 examples that Mueller mentioned but could not prove to be true?</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Mon, 30 Dec 2019 13:18:31 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212792#M942456jimc912019-12-30T13:18:31ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212805#M942466
<P><FONT size="5">tRump is a Russian pawn and some trump supporters unknowingly are.</FONT></P>Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:02:58 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212805#M942466ChasKy532019-12-30T14:02:58ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212854#M942504
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="1891044"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519556"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="120630"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG>For the rest of us, we know exactly what the Mueller Report said about Trump.</STRONG></P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>Again, I ask you the same question... &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>If what you say is true then why did NONE of the Mueller Report find its way into the Articles of Impeachment? &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Because NONE of it was credible evidence of any high crime!!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>You folks really need to learn from your many mistakes and move on into the future and stop living in the past dust bin of history... &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="4"><EM><STRONG>It's over!</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;You have no basis in fact for what you say, and you have no understanding of the subject. It is not over far from it. Trump is a proven pawn of Putin.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>You are wrong... &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>The House <U>did NOT include</U> any of the Mueller Report information in the articles of impeachment. &nbsp;That's a fact. &nbsp;</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>Please point out where I am wrong.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><EM><STRONG>It's over... Move on to something that is relevant&nbsp;<LI-USER uid="1891044"></LI-USER>&nbsp;, because your rant is not.</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>If you want to answer something I wrote answer the full quote on the subject not just one small part. This is a trick used by the far right when they have no understanding of a subject in total to try and make people think they understand a subject. If I moved on to something relevant I would never answer any far right post.</P>Mon, 30 Dec 2019 17:26:59 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212854#M942504john2582019-12-30T17:26:59ZRe: tRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212867#M942512
<P>To ask a basic question of the trump being a putin pawn:</P><P>russia is an adversary, trump has secret meetings with putin...has trump "ever" critiqued or criticized putin?</P><P>Nor has trump supported reinforcing efforts to prevent russian intrusions.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>How more supportive of russia can he get? Next, we could focus on trump's financial connections with russia!</P>Mon, 30 Dec 2019 17:51:51 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2212867#M942512williamb391982019-12-30T17:51:51ZtRump is a Russian Pawnhttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2213014#M942577
<P>Comrade Trump is Vladimir's puppet (pawn).</P>Tue, 31 Dec 2019 12:40:17 GMThttps://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/tRump-is-a-Russian-Pawn/m-p/2213014#M942577CriticalThinking2019-12-31T12:40:17Z