There is actually quite a difference between worshipping someone and just being fair. It is unfair to blame MEtte-Marit for trying to push her son into royal circles. She has got countless advisors who would definitely have told her if she'd try to do something bad-mannered such as bringing her child uninvited. So I think it's safe to assume that he's been invited. Which is not Mette-Marit's fault.

(BTW Mette-Marit's become royal by marriage, so should she put her son up for adoption to keep him from contaminating "royal circles"?!?)

I admire Haakoon for his courage in wanting to marry Mette-Marit and her for her courage in accepting his proposal. IMO this is a point in favour for both of them.

All I'm saying is that we are all defined by our actions and choices and that one must have certain qualities to defend the title of the crown princess which I don't think she does. It's not only the royal origin or blood that makes you royal. That's my personal opinion. I never said she should hide her son, for God's sake!

All I'm saying is that we are all defined by our actions and choices and that one must have certain qualities to defend the title of the crown princess which I don't think she does. It's not only the royal origin or blood that makes you royal. That's my personal opinion. I never said she should hide her son, for God's sake!

pray tell ,in your "opinion" what makes a "crown Princess"???????
because at the end of the day they are only human and all of them makes mistake's one way or another !
however why dont we agree to disagree !

I'm not a fan of Mette-Marit at all. She doesn't carry out enough engagements for my taste, but the Norwegian royals don't have the same workload as most other royal houses (the Danes have lots of off-days, too). That being said, I feel MM has to be judged in comparison to the rest of the Norwegian royal house, and she works just as hard as the rest of them.

You shouldn't have commented at all on Marius, because he's not illegitimate and attacking a child because you don't like his mother makes you look petty and completely detracts from whatever argument you may have had.

MM's past is not the issue here. The Norwegians have accepted her and feel that she does a good job. Since they are the ones who pay for her, that's all that counts.

[QUOTE=prm79]All I'm saying is that we are all defined by our actions and choices and that one must have certain qualities to defend the title of the crown princess which I don't think she does. It's not only the royal origin or blood that makes you royal.

If one must have certain qualities and illegitimate children is not one of those, I would imagine many royals shouldn't be in their jobs. C'mon prm79, I am not necessarily a fan of the Norwegian royals but I am a huge fan of people being inclusive instead of exclusive. If we are all defined by our actions and choices, it seems to me all the adults involved in including young Marius in baptismal, royal or whatever events, and thus helping him to have a stable and secure upbringing ought to be applauded and not chastised. I don't think any evolved adult wants to see Marius suffer because he is excluded. He already has enough to deal with being the older step-sibling that will not inherit the throne.

If one must have certain qualities and illegitimate children is not one of those, I would imagine many royals shouldn't be in their jobs. C'mon prm79, I am not necessarily a fan of the Norwegian royals but I am a huge fan of people being inclusive instead of exclusive. If we are all defined by our actions and choices, it seems to me all the adults involved in including young Marius in baptismal, royal or whatever events, and thus helping him to have a stable and secure upbringing ought to be applauded and not chastised. I don't think any evolved adult wants to see Marius suffer because he is excluded. He already has enough to deal with being the older step-sibling that will not inherit the throne.

If you hadn't been experiencing serious problems reading the posts of this thread in order and perhaps notice the name of each poster, then you would have realised that what I said about those qualities certainly had nothing to do with cute Marius. This is of course a proof that some people read what they want to read and not what is actually written. Do you even know the story of Mette Marit, have you watched her on tv, read her interviews? At least, I lived in Norway for the last 6 years so allow me to have an opinion which, of course, is just personal.

I'm not sure but since the former greek royal family hasn't adopted a last name I guess they don't have one. It's Crown Prince Pavlos and Crown Princess Marie-Chantal. I'm not sure though...That's one of the reasons that the family members don't have a normal passport.

they are crown Prince and Crown Princess although they aren't?
That means, I could call myself Crown Princess if I'd like to?

Crown Princess hippiesheep, that's really cool...

Well, possibly as much as you could call yourself President hippiesheep (I'd vote for somebody with this name anytime!). It wouldn't make you president, and it wouldn't make you a crown princess if it is just a name you choose. It's a title and has to be recognized by someone official. I suppose calling those Greek guys crown prince and princess is just a matter of courtesy, they have no official capacity whatsoever since Greece is a republic.
It's like in Austria, we have no aristocracy any longer, so if you want to be extra-nice you'd call somebody duke or duchess, or whatever, but it's not an offical title.