]]>By: Irishttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/01/10/pro-gay-us-congresswoman-shot-six-killed/comments/#comment-158487
Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:51:17 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=22053#comment-158487That’s shocking, David in Indy.
]]>By: David in Indyhttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/01/10/pro-gay-us-congresswoman-shot-six-killed/comments/#comment-158473
Wed, 12 Jan 2011 05:38:04 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=22053#comment-158473I just read an article claiming the gun sales in Tuscon have doubled since this shooting, which if true is absolutely appalling. How is anything going to change for the better if more guns are introduced onto the streets? Arizona (along with the rest of the U.S.) is quickly becoming another “shoot-out at the OK Corral”.

Everyone packing heat, concealed weapons on half of our citizens, gunfights on every corner… is THAT the solution? Sorry, that doesn’t make me feel very safe. :-(

]]>By: Irishttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/01/10/pro-gay-us-congresswoman-shot-six-killed/comments/#comment-158335
Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:11:35 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=22053#comment-158335“Reminds me of a managerial expression I hear once:- “promoted one level beyond their competence”…. in her case, more like 24 levels….”

I agree, Will. What I find scary about people like Sarah Palin is I’m never quite sure if they actually ARE incompetent/ignorant or whether they’re not but choose to aim their words at that very particular kind of paranoid, messed up person and appeal to the lowest common denominator.

I find both those alternatives very frightening. Personally, I think Palin was inspired by the nutty Youtube videos where some ‘patriot’ sits there caressing their gun and ranting about random ‘injustices’. I’m sure people like that would be easy votes for her. But I see absolutely no need for imagery linked to guns AT ALL.

]]>By: Kazhttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/01/10/pro-gay-us-congresswoman-shot-six-killed/comments/#comment-158332
Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:09:52 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=22053#comment-158332Jo, I must say I’m puzzled with your statement that it’s the left in the USA who are speaking in such angry and hateful terms. Whilst I’m in the UK, I do consume a lot of American news and political information.
Two people who spring to my mind in pushing for violence are Sarah Palin and Sharron Angle (incidentally, both beloved by the Tea Party). Sharron Angle stated that if the right didn’t win at the ballot box they should look into “Second Amendment remedies” and as we know the Second Amendment is the right to keep and bear arms, the whole quote essentially advocated for the violent overthrow of those who have been legitimately elected.
Anyone sensible and reasonable would reject this as being over the top but to someone who is obviously disturbed this could conceivably be taken in an entirely different manner.
It was also the right who had previously attacked Rep. Gifford’s office (and many other Democratic Reps and Senators recently) and sent her hate mail.
It’s also rather telling that Sarah Palin’s “Cross-Hairs” campaign was removed within hours of the attempted assassination of Rep. Gifford, most of us would not have known about it if it wasn’t for Google caching and the sterling work of some in the media, largely on the left.
]]>By: Pavloshttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/01/10/pro-gay-us-congresswoman-shot-six-killed/comments/#comment-158326
Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:30:57 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=22053#comment-158326From Sarah Palin’s chilling target page, with rifle sight cross hairs symbols and all…

“We’re paying particular attention to those House members who voted in favor of Obamacare and represent districts that Senator John McCain and I carried during the 2008 election. Three of these House members are retiring – from Arkansas’s 2nd district, Indiana’s 8th district, and Tennessee’s 6th district – but we’ll be working to make sure that those who replace them are Commonsense Conservatives. The others are running for re-election, and we’re going to hold them accountable for this disastrous Obamacare vote. They are: Ann Kirkpatrick (AZ-1), Harry E. Mitchell (AZ-5), Gabrielle Giffords (AZ-8), John Salazar (CO-3), Betsy Markey (CO-4). Allen Boyd (FL-2), Suzanne M. Kosmas (FL-24), Baron P. Hill (IN-9), Earl Pomeroy (ND-AL), Charlie Wilson (OH-6), John Boccieri (OH-16), Kathy Dahlkemper (PA-3), Christopher Carney (PA-10), John M. Spratt, Jr. (SC-5), Tom Perriello (VA-5), Alan B. Mollohan (WV-1), and Nick J. Rahall II (WV-3).

We’ll aim for these races and many others. This is just the first salvo in a fight to elect people across the nation who will bring common sense to Washington. Please go to SarahPalin.etc and join me in the fight.

Stand tall, America. Real change is coming!”

– Sarah Palin

]]>By: Willhttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/01/10/pro-gay-us-congresswoman-shot-six-killed/comments/#comment-158307
Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:55:40 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=22053#comment-158307“No, it wasn’t directly Palin’s fault, but she seems to stir up mentally ill people and goad them into action in a way that sometimes seems calculated.”

Well said, Iris. If one inbred moron up a tweet telling people to “realod”, as Palin put it, s/he is quite rightly ignored (or offered mental health counselling), but this person is aiming to be a presidential candidate, and yet she behaves like a swamp hick with the IQ of a turnip. She should have more sense and civility for a person in her position. Reminds me of a managerial expression I hear once:- “promoted one level beyond their competence”…. in her case, more like 24 levels….

I can’t believe that map’s till up. No, it wasn’t directly Palin’s fault, but she seems to stir up mentally ill people and goad them into action in a way that sometimes seems calculated.

]]>By: Pavloshttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/01/10/pro-gay-us-congresswoman-shot-six-killed/comments/#comment-158298
Tue, 11 Jan 2011 09:42:05 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=22053#comment-158298Palin’s target page is still up here:http://www.facebook.com/notes/sarah-palin/dont-get-demoralized-get-organized-take-back-the-20/373854973434
]]>By: Steve@GayWebHostinghttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/01/10/pro-gay-us-congresswoman-shot-six-killed/comments/#comment-158294
Tue, 11 Jan 2011 07:44:18 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=22053#comment-158294Well, Palin has far too much gob for her own good. “Hockey-Mom” indeed…. and how does the ´hockey mom´ feel about the shooting of an innocent 9 yr old girl then?

Yes this shooter might well have mental issues.. That is the VERY reason why Palin should share some of the blame for the levels of political violence we are beginning to see..

Her ´appeal to the lowest common denominator´ whack-jobs rhetoric is at least partly the cause of such actions..

Instead of listening to all of these right-wing sickos, I prefer to listen to the actual VICTIM… The congresswoman herself was recently interviewed on TV (after her offices had been smashed-up) She herself condemned Palin and the right-wing incendiary language as having consequences…

Tragically, as we have seen… SHE was right!

Well done to Daniel Hernandez jr. Sounds like a true hero and a credit to all that is decent in Humanity!

]]>By: atalantahttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/01/10/pro-gay-us-congresswoman-shot-six-killed/comments/#comment-158293
Tue, 11 Jan 2011 07:44:12 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=22053#comment-158293@Helen: great quote, but you buried the lead a bit there.

Mr Hernandez is gay and a hero. His decision to help the congresswoman, although it meant moving towards the shooter (when most people would be running away), probably saved Ms Giffords’ life.

Before anyone shouts ‘Oliver Sipple’, Mr Hernandez was out beforehand and has a public profile in Tucson LGBT activism.

]]>By: Willhttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/01/10/pro-gay-us-congresswoman-shot-six-killed/comments/#comment-158292
Tue, 11 Jan 2011 07:02:10 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=22053#comment-158292“the right wing has been the ones told to shut-up, sit down, and do not have an opinion that is different from the left!!”

I assume you have never watch Fox “News” from under that rock you’ve been living under all your life, Jo?

The only thing more pathetic than right wing religious nuts is one who is a complete whiner about their lack of right to persecute others.

]]>By: 21stCenturySpiritualityhttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/01/10/pro-gay-us-congresswoman-shot-six-killed/comments/#comment-158291
Tue, 11 Jan 2011 06:44:45 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=22053#comment-158291@ Helen….oooh, those people are so wrong. That is about as far removed from the message of Christianity and the teachings of Jesus as it is possible to get. What happened to ‘Thou shalt not kill’ and ‘love thy neighbour’? Scum, absolute scum – I try avoid name calling in my remarks but thats the only sentiment that seems to fit that bunch of spiritual and ethical bankrupts.
]]>By: 21stCenturySpiritualityhttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/01/10/pro-gay-us-congresswoman-shot-six-killed/comments/#comment-158289
Tue, 11 Jan 2011 06:28:40 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=22053#comment-158289@Jo Wildermuth…”Have you heard this guy had an alter in the back of his house to worship the occult – hardly right wing kind of behavior.” ….Err, Hitler?
]]>By: Helenhttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/01/10/pro-gay-us-congresswoman-shot-six-killed/comments/#comment-158277
Tue, 11 Jan 2011 00:21:12 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=22053#comment-158277Fred Phelps Westboro Baptist Church plans to picket the funerals of the six people gunned down in Arizona on Saturday including that of the nine year old.

The issued a poster saying:

“”THANK GOD FOR THE SHOOTER — 6 DEAD!

Your federal judge is dead and your (fag-promoting, baby-killing, proud-sinner) Congresswoman fights for her life. God is avenging Himself on this rebellious house! WBC prays for your destruction–more shooters, more dead carcasses piling up, young, old, leader and commoner–all. Your doom is upon you!””

This is not to say there are no genuinely left-wing, progressive, liberal people in America – there are plenty – it’s just that the appalling cultural and political machineries of the country (especially the involvement of big business in the media and political funding) work to skew the political conversation much further to the right than it should be.

]]>By: Jameshttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/01/10/pro-gay-us-congresswoman-shot-six-killed/comments/#comment-158265
Mon, 10 Jan 2011 22:39:17 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=22053#comment-158265Jo is that short for jack off? you should and when your done go eat some possums you redneck pig
]]>By: Adamhttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/01/10/pro-gay-us-congresswoman-shot-six-killed/comments/#comment-158257
Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:37:16 +0000http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=22053#comment-158257Do you expect her to take it down? She’s prob gonna use this as a reason for people to have more access to guns for protection ! … Oh if only the victims had had a gun she will say >.> or think … Which means it’ll prob come out of her mouth.

Rush was on his radio like a min after the silence today saying how Obama will use this as political ammunition. I was like umm like your doing you right wing nut job?

But sadly the right to bare arms is sacrosanct in USA. But what can you do legalised guns make defending yourself easier but also easier for would be attackers … But making guns for deffense illegal leaves you unprotected but those setting out to harm will find a way to arm themselves. It’s a real problem.

In the end I think guns are there to stay but I for one would take my money and also invest in as much armour as I could.