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The scientists baptized it Covid 19, but humanity couldn’t forget the original name with which the virus introduced itself: Corona. Let’s consider Covid 19 its nickname.

Sometimes humanity is exposed to calamities that overshadow the previous one, or ones. The corona virus has paralyzed the social life of all people. It triggered a serious anxiety the like of which humanity hasn’t experienced for a long time.

A few days ago there appeared a somber message by “An Italian Girl” addressing the leaders of West. The Italian Girl expressed her disgust on the way Western leaders treated Italy like dirt in its time of need, they even failed to help it by providing small things like masks. In a reprimand, She lamented it was Italy that gave the world the banking system, statecraft, law… Marconi, Columbus, Marco Polo, Michelangelo, Galileo, and many more. And she reminded the leaders to abruptly stand on their feet with their heads down in respect whenever they hear the name of Italy.

What humanity is going through is sad, but Italy was among the few countries that Corona attacked mercilessly. That is why we think the “Italian Girl” forgot to mention Florence Nightingale, the founder of modern nursing. And in these trying times, anyone who doesn’t recognize the sacrifices of the health professionals is an inhuman imbecile; we are grateful to all the medical personnel.

But the medical community cannot fight the Corona pandemic alone, it needs the support of all the people and governments. Unfortunately, when most countries are transparent on how they are dealing with the pandemic, including releasing correct data that reflects the status of each country, there are a few countries that are not trustworthy. And the government of our home country, Eritrea, is among them.

A few days ago, we heard that a certain government has instructed its doctors to record Corona virus related infections and deaths, as pneumonia. Of course they encouraged to do so because when people die in some countries, the hospitals do not have to worry about disclosing the cause of death, particularly in the countryside where people die at home. In such places, people die simply because their time is up; or they just had fever, or diarrhea, or simply collapsed. RIP is all they get. It has never been as complicated as it is in the civilized world where death requires many arrangements: death certificate, signatures, burial permits, and burying space. It’s such traditions that treats death lightly that enables dictators to get away with murder, literally.

Eritrea has hundreds of prisons, from dungeons to shacks and hastily prepared open yards with acacia shrub fences. Many die in these places and are silently buried by the prison guards without bothering to notify their next of kin. Many have been denied visitation rights for decades. And still there are thousands of victims imprisoned in their teens and the grow up to be adults without enjoying basic personal freedoms. Incidentally, today, many Eritreans from her generation and others are holding a virtual party to celebrate the 23rd birthday of Ciham Ali Abdu. She was jailed when she was only 15. Alas, contrary to the dreams that Eritreans held, the young are inhumanly wasting their years in prisons instead of becoming the likes of Florence Nightingale of this age.

Ciham Ali was born in the United States and moved to Eritrea with her family. Her father was a minister in Isaias Afwerki’s government. He fled to Australia when he fell out with the president. When Ciham tried to leave, she was arrested at the border. She was 15. On April 2, she turned 23, after eight years in jail. Human Rights Watch has called herrelease.

Ciham, is just one example, though a familiar victim. But she is imprisoned with thousands of others, including former senior government officials, ministers, teachers, journalists, political activists, artists, veterans of the struggle era, religious leaders, and many more. They have not been publicly charged, and they do not enjoy any visitation rights, and the whereabouts of thousands more is unknown even after 20 years of imprisonment.

Many Eritreans have appealed to the government to release the prisoners, to disperse the Sawa military camps that the government claims are simply training centers. But it also forces students to finish their senior year of high school in the same notorious Sawa military camps which are overcrowded and a fertile ground for the spread of the Corona virus. As expected, the leaders do not seem to care about the disease more than what they care about what they can gain from it. When, and if, the spread of the virus subsides, they will claim they single-handedly fought the virus into submission. Until then, they will enjoy tormenting Eritreans and jailing the likes of the innocent Ciham Ali. But not for too long. Soon, those who are perpetuating such brutalities on Eritreans will be held accountable and they will pay a heavy price.

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Simon Kaleab

NewDawn,

The youtube video in the link you provided tries to connect the demographic needs of Israel to Muslim migration to the West.

This video propagates a conspiracy theory that will appeal to simple minds.

Some facts:

-IsraAid is a leftist NGO similar to MSF.

-IsraAid was active in many disaster zones such as Haiti, Burma, Sri Lanka, South Sudan, Uganda, Mozambique etc., not just in Greece.

-It is well known that more than 60% of American Jews are leftists who vote for the Obama party.

-Israel and Syria are technically at war. Israel’s main concerns are, weapons transfer to Hizb-Allah from Iran via Syria, and setting up of bases in Syria by Hizb-Allah and Iran, in particular on the Syrian side if the Golan.

It is interesting and sad news: I don’t think anyone died in Ethiopia but in here in the US, 100 Ethiopians are dead and I got to believe this just around DMV. I am happy the poor Africans people are spared but at the same time, I never thought this many Ethiopians will check out.

African residents of Guangzhou, southern China, reportedly found themselves sleeping on
the street this week as renters arbitrarily evicted them, hotels banned them, and restaurants refused to serve them food.

The Africans – many businessmen, students, and others from places like Nigeria,Kenya, and Zimbabwe – say they are also being subject to arbitrary coronavirus testing and still shunned when they test negative. Many have spent years in China without leaving, unlike their Chinese neighbors, making the Communist Party’s explanation that travellers from abroad require more isolation and testing to prevent “imported” cases of Chinese coronavirus not applicable.

The Chinese coronavirus, currently behind a pandemic sweeping through most of the
world, has had a markedly more muted effect in sub-Saharan Africa than other places, though some speculate this to be a product of many countries in the region having insufficient access to testing. In contrast, China is the origin country of the virus and its government actively silenced medical professionals sharing hygiene tips for months, enabling the spread of the virus to such a degree that one study found the Communist Party responsible for as many as 95 percent of the world’s coronavirus cases.

The vast majority of Chinese coronavirus cases in Guangzhou are Chinese nationals.
Despite this, many Chinese in Guangzhou are blaming Africans from the Chinese virus.
Multiple outlets, citing locals in Guangzhou, reported that the government has begun arbitrary Chinese coronavirus testing of black people and ordered restaurants and other service businesses not to serve black people. Many who were tested say they are not giving any results, so they have no idea if they are coronavirus carriers. Others say they are told they tested negative, but are still forced into what amounts to house arrest – and note that the Chinese of Guangzhou are not facing similar treatment.

“I’ve been sleeping under the bridge for four days with no food to eat … I cannot buy food anywhere, no shops or restaurants will serve me,” Tony Mathias, an Ugandan student, told Agence France-Presse (AFP) in an article published Saturday. “We’re like beggars on the
street.”

“Everywhere the police see us, they will come and pursue us and tell us to go home. But where can we go?” an unnamed Nigerian businessman told the outlet.

“Even if we have a negative test result, police don’t let us stay (in our accommodation) and they don’t give a reason why,” another Nigerian identified as Denny told AFP.

AFP found evidence that all black people, not only those from Africa, faced similar treatment the city.

“There’s just this crazy fear that anybody who’s African might have been in contact with somebody who was sick,” a black Canadian told AFP.

Kenyan newspapers have also noted that Chinese social media – heavily controlled by
the Chinese Communist Party and purged of any content Beijing disagrees with – have become home to “a torrent of abuse online, with many Chinese Internet users posting racist comments and calling for all Africans to be deported.”

Reuters reported on Saturday that a group of African ambassadors in China issued a letter
to the Communist Party’s top diplomat Wang Yi demanding Beijing stop “stigmatization and discrimination” against Africans in Guangzhou.

“The Group of African Ambassadors in Beijing immediately demands the cessation of
forceful testing, quarantine and other inhuman treatments meted out to Africans,” Reuters quoted the letter as saying.

Several diplomats from nations like Ghana, Kenya, and Zimbabwe also reportedly either
summoned ambassadors in their countries or otherwise alerted China to their displeasure at the abuse of their citizens.

Many Africangovernments that represent the nations sending businessmen and others
to cities like Guangzhou – a port city of nearly 15 million – joined China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), the Communist Party’s plan to dominate the world’s most important shipping and transport routes. As part of the plan, China offers predatory loans to African leaders in exchange for offering to build high-tech infrastructure in underdeveloped areas. The countries use the predatory loans to pay Chinese workers to build these projects,
meaning China gets paid with the original money and then again with debt payments.

The result has been widespread abuse of African workers and racism against Africans in
their own countries.

“With stakes worth billions of dollars in businesses ranging from agriculture to oil, gas, and construction, China’s Greek-gift economic assistance is increasing unemployment and worsening job creation in Nigeria,” Nigerian journalist Adedayo Adejobi warned in August. “It’s such a pathetic situation that Nigerians are slaves in their country to Chinese exploiters!”

Kenya has seen perhaps the most outrageous incidents of Chinese racism on the continent. In 2018, Kenyan workers on the Standard Gauge Railway (SGR), a BRI project, revealed that Chinese workers had established an “apartheid” system on work sites. Africans were not allowed on the same transport vehicles, in the same cafeterias, or otherwise near their Chinese counterparts. Despite being educated in engineering and construction, the Chinese allowed Kenyans only poorly paid manual labor jobs.

Outside of the SGR, Kenya was forced to deport one Chinese national for calling President
Uhuru Kenyatta and Kenyans in general “monkey people” on video. Another Chinese national, illegally present in Kenya, was arrested for whipping a Kenyan worker on video. Last year, a mob of Chinese immigrants beat a Kenyan engineer after he found them to be flouting safety rules and refused to take a bribe.

While African nationals have been most dramatically affected, the U.S. consulate in
Guangzhou warned black American citizens weekend that they may also face racism.

“Anyone with ‘African contacts’ faces mandatory virus tests followed by quarantine, regardless of recent travel history or previous isolation,” a statement from the consulate said.

Kenya’s Daily Nation, which exposed several racist incidents tied to Belt and Road,
published an editorial Saturday accusing China of “the height of treachery” for police-mandated racism in Guangzhou.

“Kenya and the rest of Africa feel deeply betrayed by China,” the editorial read. “Africans are subjected to online abuse and bullying and negatively profiled, with the call they be deported. This is the height of treachery and defies social relations and human rights, let alone international protocols. It is racist and objectionable.”

The editorial also asserted the scientific consensus that the coronavirus originated in
Wuhan, China, which Beijing has denied without evidence.

Zhao Lijian, a Foreign Ministry spokesman responsible for the false claim that the U.S. Army created the Wuhan virus in a laboratory, issued a statement Sunday in response to Guangzhou’s racist attacks on Africans, asserting that “China has achieved remarkable progress at this stage thanks to our most comprehensive, rigorous and thorough
measures.”

Zhao insisted that “imported cases” of coronavirus are now China’s problem, not people-to-people spread of the virus within China. There is ample evidence that this may not be true.

“While overcoming difficulties at home, we also give love and care to all African citizens in China, especially African students,” Zhao’s statement read. “All foreigners are treated equally. We reject differential treatment, and we have zero tolerance for discrimination. Since the outbreak, the authorities in Guangdong [the province where Guangzhou
is located] attach high importance to the treatment of foreign patients, including African nationals.

Simon Kaleab

Selam all,

China-Africa relations rocked by alleged racism over Covid-19

Africans in Guangzhou evicted from hotels and had passports confiscated, officials say
-Financial Times
[There is a similar story on Al Jazeera]

Sino-African relations have been plunged into crisis after African officials reacted furiously to allegations that their nationals were being routinely discriminated against in Guangzhou, southern China, as alleged potential “carriers” of coronavirus.

Video posted on social media over the weekend showed people of African descent being evicted from homes and hotels, sleeping rough and being refused service in shops. Widespread reports alleged others have been forced into quarantine despite testing negative for Covid-19.

African ambassadors in Beijing wrote a letter to China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, seen by the Financial Times, condemning what they said was “the persistent harassment and humiliation of African nationals”.

Families with young children had been forced to sleep on the streets and passports had been confiscated, they said.

“The singling out of Africans for compulsory testing and quarantine, in our view, has no scientific or logical basis and amounts to racism towards Africans in China,” the letter said, flagging the possibility of a backlash against the Chinese diaspora living on the African continent.

A second letter obtained by UN officials and signed by a group called the All African Community in Guangzhou accused China of “being at war” with Africa. “The inhuman treatment, hatred, and outright discrimination of Africans that is currently going on in Guangzhou, China is beyond expression,” it said.

One man from Chad working in the Chinese city said he had been told by authorities to self-quarantine for 14 days because he was African. Alush, an entrepreneur from Chad, said he had not left the city for four months and twice tested negative for coronavirus. Nonetheless, he was told by Chinese authorities to self-quarantine for 14 days because he was African, he said. “I’m really sad, I don’t understand,” he told the FT. “I have my own company here, I pay my taxes, I have a work permit. It’s just not right how they are treating us.”

A Nigerian businessman who did not want to give his name said he had been evicted from his apartment and refused entry to a local supermarket when he tried to buy food and water. “I feel like Chinese people hate black people,” he said. “Not everyone hates us, I have some very kind Chinese friends who are like brothers but I hear people call me racial slurs on the subway, in shopping malls, on the streets.”

“A lot of my African friends in Guangzhou say they want to go back to Africa once the quarantine measures lift,” he said.

McDonald’s admitted to an incident in which a black person had been refused service, saying it apologised unreservedly and was conducting training on diversity and inclusion. “Currently, all customers are welcome to all our restaurants after body temperature check-up with health QR code issued by the local government,” it said.

Africans have long complained of experiencing racism in China. In 2018, China’s national broadcaster televised a blackface skit during the annual Spring Festival gala, the most watched television programme in the world.

On another occasion, a Chinese laundry detergent brand had to apologise after it released an advertisement showing a black man getting “washed” into a lighter skinned Asian man in a washing machine.

But the latest events risked lasting damage, experts said, to a political, commercial and cultural relationship that has become increasingly important to China and Africa.

In several African capitals, ministers reacted angrily, breaking a normal taboo against open criticism of China, which is a big lender to many African governments. Between 2000 and 2018, Chinese institutions, including the China Development Bank, lent an estimated $152bn to 48 African states, according to the China Africa Research Initiative at Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies.

Chinese ambassadors to Abuja in Nigeria and Accra in Ghana were among those summoned by their respective host governments to give an explanation. In Addis Ababa, the capital of Ethiopia, Moussa Faki, chairperson of the African Union Commission, said he had “invited” the Chinese ambassador to the AU to express “our extreme concern”.

Zhao Lijian, a foreign ministry spokesman, said Beijing was taking the allegations seriously.

The foreign ministry would continue “close communication with the Guangdong authorities and continue responding to the African side’s reasonable concerns and legitimate appeals,” he said. The Chinese, he added, regarded Africans as “brothers and partners”.

One senior official in east Africa said many African governments felt betrayed as Beijing had specifically asked them not to repatriate their citizens when the coronavirus outbreak began in Wuhan. “There was a strong campaign from Chinese themselves to ask Africans not to panic and to keep their students and traders there,” said the official, who asked not to be identified by name. “So there’s a reaction: how could you do this to us?”

Eric Olander, managing editor of The China Africa Project website, said the events of recent days had “led to an unprecedented rupture in China-Africa relations”. In recent weeks, China had presented itself as an important benefactor to Africa, making large donations of medical supplies, such as masks and test kits sent by Jack Ma, the co-founder of Alibaba.

But, said Mr Olander, Beijing was in danger of losing that goodwill. “Time is quickly running out for the Chinese side to find a way out before sentiment on African social media metastasises and further limits the options of African leaders to move on and focus on more pressing national priorities with the Chinese like debt relief”.

Sultan M.G.

Selam Simon:
China will suffer the consequences, not only by Africans but by the entire world .

But can you say same about Trump and his irresponsible recklessness of ignoring the looming deadly pandemic ??
What about the deadly UNJUST disparity of the African -Americans are going through?
More than 50- 75% of COVID-19 infections and deaths in the USA are among Blacks!

Simon Kaleab

Selam Sultan,

Can you produce any concrete evidence where Trump took actions contrary to expert advice?

I will forward your enquiry about the 50% to 75% infection rate to the ultimate fake man Obama Obigmama.

Sultan M.G.

Sir:

Was just quoting what the CNN and its Public Health Experts reported but my figure is not a national figure but based on morbidity and mortality rate from Chiago, Detroit and NY!

Plus, do not try to be more Catholic than the Pope .

Not sure what your professional background is but those of us at the front line now and during the AIDS/HIV epidemic in the USA, know what we are talking about !

Evidence ?

With all due respect,Dude, we practice Evidence-based Medicine!

Trumpism?

Get it real!

Are u one of the paid Fox News Propagandists, God forbid???

Insulting Obama?
For?
U seem to have no clue about what the Supremacists at the Congress and the Senate along with the Fox News treated him and dealt with him by blocking every constructive agenda , Legislature and policy he had crafted and tried to pass , not to mention the toxic and defamatory propaganda against him calling him a Non-US born Citizen and an underground Muslim and Executer of Osama bin Ladin!!

Don’t insult the Intelligence!

Except his deadly and regrettable foreign policy on Eritrea and Yemen, I love him.. as a Human Being and as a Leader.

Blame the crooked avenger,Dr.Susan Rice and Hillary with full of ego and the inept asha “Dr” Frazier,on his deadly policy on Eritrea

Simon Kaleab

Selam Sultan/Hope,

So, you have no evidence.

Goodbye!

Sultan M.G.

Simon:
What kind of Evidence are you looking,sir?
Are u from Planet Jupiter?
What the Public Health Stats we are getting from the Experts and Reliable Media is,what now?
You sound like PIA!

Simon Kaleab

Selam Sultan/Hope,

You are still here?

Go back to sleep.

Sultan M.G.

Selamat Simon:
Tonight is my only off duty night, the reason am flooding the forum and am trying to enjoy the forum just for tonight!

Nitricc

Simon; I don’t know what is with and the freaking evidence. All what you say is absolute true, for anyone to say something they need evidence. Aren’t you the one you denied for Trump saying it is a hoax when he was warned about the Chinese virus? You remind me the saying of” the illiterate of the 21st century will not be to those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn and relearn”
You are too rigid to accept other people’s comment and opinion.

Simon Kaleab

Selam Nitricc,

Why don’t you jump from the top of Mount Emba Soira?

Nitricc

Simon; hahahaha why don’t you jump to the lake! My point you should able to unlearn what you have learned. what you have learned could be incorrect.

Simon Kaleab

Nitricc,

You complain, you jump!

I am not complaining.

መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

Selam Simon,
You are asking too much. Single-cell 55 yrs old boy doesn’t even know where Mount Emba Soira is located. Please, make you requests simple.

Sultan M.G.

Dear Simon:
Did u read or see your Fav President’s discriminatory and Racist tweet about the Chinese-Americans in China Town of San Francisco?
Go and figure it out!

Presidential Candidate Young’s factual reporting on the CNN and that of the more than 5 Asian-Americans’ Advocacy Groups and organizations on the alarming victimization of the Asian-Americans is another damning report you conveniently opted out not to mention!

I took it for granted that you are fully AWARE about your fav President’s nasty “Xenophobic, Islamophobic , Africanophobic “ and dangerously RACIST comments against Mexicans, Muslims and Africans!

Simon Kaleab

Selam Sultan/Hope,

Where is the link to the tweet?

If true, what has it got to do with Chinese discriminatory actions against Africans?

Stay on topic.

Sultan M.G.

Selamat Mr Simon:

Can’t post the link on a week since I will be banned if I do so!
Just google the tweet under Pilosi visiting SF….and Trump response.
You are not either on the topic but am comparing and contrasting both countries and their dirty acts.
You are on record praising the Trump adm and covering up his dirty actions and comments and yet demonizing China…. unfairly!

Simon Kaleab

Selam Sultan,

The burden of proof is on you.

Demonizing China unfairly? Any evidence?

Don’t quote nervous Pelosi, who is sick in the head?

Nitricc

The Question is why is Ethiopia is afraid of Dejibuti ? the truth is, through Dejibuti you may lose your commodities, through Eritrea you lose your life. the choice is yours Me Sisay.https://i.imgur.com/S52CqLd.png

Simon Kaleab

Selam all,

Six critically ill coronavirus patients in Israel who are considered high-risk for mortality have been treated with Pluristem’s placenta-based cell-therapy product and survived, according to preliminary data provided by the Haifa-based company.

Selam Simon:
Good news;and there is hope that a new old antiretroviral drug tried for the previous corona virus epidemic is said to be 70% effective and plasma from people,who recovered from COVID-19 like Prof Aman Hidrat,is hoped to help in the Rx of COVID19 infected/ ill patients!

1. – My, my, my, my……… Mah boy! You rock; you really do!!
Thanks for the images and small footages you presented – they speak volume about Eritreans and the rest of the African leaders who’re praised by the West as democratic (emerging) countries – like Kenya and Et…………….ia.

And I admire you for rowing your boat with resolve against the tide of the top “brainiacs” here at Awate – though not much of a brain tide in all honesty – but nonetheless….. still a tide.

2. – Nitricc, there is a difference between Eritrean mindset (the battle-hardened CheguAr Dangas) and the rest. We Eritreans believe:

A. – When injustice is done to us Eritreans, the right way to handle the injustice is to fight-back – regardless the size and magnitude of the looming dark storms on the horizon. Straight up! People of color in America, when injustice is done to them by the police or the justice system, they’re trained/advised by the “experts” to go to church and pray – true; very true story.

B. – Even here at Awate, our anti-PFDJ political activists and our Western educated scientist, physician, PFDJ opponent, “Eritrean bred” scholar (Paul) is/are prescribing prayer to combat the Coronavirus – while the Eritrean leadership at every level, the Eritrean physicians pharmacists lab-technicians and hospital workers are focused on combating the Coronavirus based on the advice of research scientists and experts on these fields – testing, quarantine, social distancing, hand hygiene, avoiding large gathering of people, closing borders and air/sea ports…………

C. – The difference between Eritrean and other African leaders approach to the current Coronavirus pandemic is, the images you showed – empty streets of Asmara, and the aid begging crowd in Eritrean Refugee camps in Tigray and in Kibera in Nairobi. And mind you: the “geniuses” here at Awate are screaming at the top of their lungs day-in and day-out – Eritrea to be a democratic country, like Kenya and the rest of Western endorsed, IMF and World-Bank indebted, “emerging” African “democratic” countries.

D. – At the end of the day, is the Eritrean government approach going to work as it was intended? Probably not! If we can’t expect perfection from the wealthy and powerful countries of the west, why would we expect perfection from a poor small nascent African nation? But, but, but still…………….

We aggressively do what we believe is right; we learn from our mistakes; as we fight, we correct our mistakes; and by doing so over and over, we improve our method of fight – everyday moving the needle a natch towards perfection. Meaning: when we get sick and die, we die while trying – not lining at a fold-aid long line.

3. – Nitricc: here in the Awate world of opinions – the likes of you and I are wired differently from the rest of the crowd. And these are the differences between the likes of you and I, and the rest – inside and outside of the Awate world

A. – They always want to look civilized and educated. To look educated and civilized, they seek the validation of the “White-man” (to borrow your phrase). Which you and I, and many of our likes don’t give a hute. Let me be very precise and very blunt. Many slave-minded, corrupt, and inept African national and opposition leaders do/aspire to do, the following when they reach at the helm of power

B. – When they govern their country, in order their governing style to be “democratic”, they aspire to earn the validation of the “White-man”.

C. – When they have national elections, their election to be “free and fair elections” in the eyes of the “world”, they aspire to earn the white-man’s validation – invite the white-man as election financier observer advisor and as the one who puts the stamp of approval – which no white-man wouldn’t allow on his own people or country.

D. – When they institute higher education institutions, they aspire to earn the white-man’s validation. And any higher education that doesn’t have the white-man’s stamp of approval (accreditation) is deemed substandard and inferior. Remember: Because you had your day in court doesn’t mean you’ve been served the justice you deserved.

E. – When they speak – in order to look intelligent – they parrot/quote a dead/old white-man (again to borrow your phrase) speech/words. To look civilized, they denigrate their culture, their customs, their language, their way of life, their dish, their clothing, their faith…… as uncivilized and savage. They parrot “white-man” talking points, catch phrases and words – tyrant, rogue nation, dictatorship, human rights, justice, democracy, rielections

3. – Now, let’s see when Eritrea will be a democratic country:

A. – To the Eritrean Islamists and Jihadists Eritrea will be democratic country only when Isaias and his PFDJ clan are arrested, killed, and weed-out – and when Eritrea has successfully become an Islamic state, arabic is Eritrea’s National language, and Eritrea is a member of the Arab league

B. – To the Tigrigna AgAzians Eritrea will be a democratic state only when the Tigrignas North and South of the Mereb River are united as one nation, and their borders extend from Djibouti to Ale-Waha, to Tikl-Dingay, and to the Red Sea and its 354 islands. Muslims are welcomed to reside inside our AgAzian land provided that……………

C. – To the Eritrean Ethnic Warriors Eritrea is a democratic country only when they successfully erected walls between Eritrean ethnics and communities – and they are safe from the intrusion of other ethnics and communities.

D. – To the Eritrean regionalists Eritrea is democratic only when Isaias is deposed and Eritrea is dominated and ruled by people from their narrow region (district).

E. – To the gun-toting Amara-Tigrean (ነፍጠኞች) and their Eritrean Unionists Eritrea will be a democratic country only when it is united with its Habesha Ethiopia mother-land.

People with the above mentioned non-converging parallel views are the ones who are making loud noises every single day here at Awate, to advance their narrow sub-national agendas.

Now tell me: when would Eritrea be a democratic country. If we take to hart that the PFDJ regime is selling Eritrea (soon), then, who would be the saver of Eritrea?

Selam Semere Tesfai
I really liked when u said “people of color in America when injustice done on them by police or justice system, they r trained/advised by experts to go to church and pray” this reminds me, when there r injustice in ethiopia all the fake and defeated so called oppositions and the ethiopian priests and Sheikhs, the so called activists, journalist and so on tell u , train u and advice u to go to church or mosque to pray for peace and to forget about it .

Hashela

Selam Semere

Two purely technical questions.

It seems the boundary between 3C and 3D is fluid. What is the most distinctive characteristic that keeps them separate?

Did not you omit a category where a large segment of our people feels home?
An all encompassing nationalist governing system that despises the elements in your listing (3A-E) and PFDJ.

Semere Tesfai

Selam Hashela

1. – “It seems the boundary between 3C and 3D is fluid. What is the most distinctive characteristic that keeps them separate?”

3(C) – Think of – Kunama Liberation Front, Afar Liberation Front……..

3(d) Think of ELLF – I think Eritrean Lowlands Liberation Front. Which they consider PFDJ as ethnic Tigrigna government. Don’t get me wrong, they are for the whole Eritrea intact but Eritrea governed under their terms and conditions (hegemony).
And think of – some Woyane manufactured and assembled Eritrean-Kebessa centered Awrajawyan political organizations.
That’s what I meant

2. – “Didn’t you omit a category where a large segment of our people feels home?
An all encompassing nationalist governing system that despises the elements in your listing (3A-E) and PFDJ.”

I’m product of ELF, LP at that. But I lost respect for them a long time ago.

This one is that had in mind when I asked. As intended by Woyane, it has an explosive mix of ኣውራጃ, ሓይማኖት, and ዓሌት .

Sultan M.G.

Ya Ustaznas Sem and Hashela:

Exactly my entire point and “ Mumbo-jumbo” arguments and ….about the TPLF and its registered Cadres!
Tell that to Simon and his twin Bro,Paulos et al

Simon Kaleab

Selam Semere T.,

Eritrea became independent after 30 years guerrilla fighting. For the next 30 years [almost] and counting, the country has been ruled by the EPLF/PFDJ military [almost] government. This is a huge investment, in the broader sense.

Irrespective of party affiliation, ethnicity, region and religion, what are the gains in terms of feeling secure, income, education, physical and mental health, and individual liberty for an ordinary Eritrean?

Paulos

Simon,

None!

Simon Kaleab

Selam Paulos,

Sadly, it has been a poor return on investment.

Should the cure be worse than the disease?

In nearly all cases, guerrilla movements and violent revolutions have proved to be bad business models.

Paulos

Selam Simon,

So far, Eritrea has been bad news. Here is a bit of history—Did you know that, Ferdinando Martini, the Governor of Eritrea was seriously considering to sell Eritrea to the King of Belgium? He had a nagging feeling about the new colony. And strange as it may seem, the feeling still persists and is shared by many till the ONE comes along to turn Eritrea into good news.

P.S. Maybe, Abination has an idea who the ONE is.

Simon Kaleab

Selam Paulos,

The king of Belgium? I did not know.

Congo and ethnic extermination comes to mind. God have mercy!

Paulos

Simon,

It is true. Glad Martini changed his mind otherwise my old man would have spoken Flemish and would have named me say, Jean-Paul instead.

Simon Kaleab

Selam Paulos,

That is assuming he survives the extermination.

The king of that little crappy fake country, aka Belgium, is a war criminal. He also robbed blind, Congo, his private ranch.

Paulos

Simon,

I agree.

Semere Tesfai

Selam Simon Kaleab

“Eritrea became independent after 30 years guerrilla fighting. And after its independence, Eritrea been ruled by the EPLF/PFDJ military government for another 30 years – and still counting. Now, what are the gains in terms of feeling secure, income, education, physical and mental health, and individual liberty for an ordinary Eritrean?”

Ever Since their independence in the 1950s and 1960s, many African countries haven’t made commendable headway in improving the quality of life of their citizens. That is a fact.

Now, do you believe their national independence from European colonizers was/is not worth the sacrifice they made. Mind you: Algeria alone – in just eight years (1954-1962) – sacrificed more than 1.5 million of her precious sons and daughters to achieve its independence.

What is the price of independence to you? If you were in a position of power, would you’ve allowed an European nation to colonize Eritrea, if it could elevate the quality of life of the Eritrean people a notch higher?

I don’t know about you, but for some of us, National Independence is priceless. No buyer’s remorse!

Semere Tesfai

Simon Kaleab

Selam Semere T.,

Here we go again. Your statements are based on logical fallacies.

1) Straw man argument.

I did not talk about independence in general. I asked if there are concrete measurable gains in Eritrea after independence.

2) Tu quoque [You/Them too] argument.

“many African countries haven’t made commendable headway in improving…”, therefore the same for Eritrea.

Paulos

Simon,

When Eritreans are misty and nostalgic of the Dergue era, that tells you all!

Simon Kaleab

Selam Paulos,

A nice choice between HIV and Ebola.

Paulos

Selam Simon,

History is replete with what-ifs where the courses of history would’ve changed in a radical way. And with in that vein, what if Isaias had joined the TPLF instead on account that he traces his bloodline from that part of Ethiopia. He might not have survived much less to make it to the top. I would think.

Simon Kaleab

Selam Paulos,

I guess he would have made it to the top because he has all the essential qualities of a guerilla leader. He has intelligence, quick thinking, self-belief, decisiveness and callousness.

On the other hand, the Eritrearn field would not have missed him badly. A certain Abdul Hamid or Woldegebriel would have replaced him. Events shape a person and vice versa.

Samuel

Selam Paulos,
That’s interesting point, I kind of agree with you. I don’t think he would have survived with TPLF, Gidey Zeratsion and Aregawi Berhe are good examples for that, specially Aregawi Berhe he has done every possible way to stay in power but he finally lost it. Even after 45 years look what Aregawi is doing in Addisi Ababa, he is still seeking power.

TPLF had very different culture than EPLF. Until 2001 the culture of TPLF was full of debates and votes, they are well-known for their collective leadership. For example MZ was against the Ethio-Eritrea war but he lost the popular vote (EC vote), and he did against his vote he went to war. That shows you the culture of TPLF, I don’t think EPLF had that kind of culture (collective leadership).

FYI, in last 45 years TPLF have changed their leader 7 times.

Thanks,

Paulos

Selam Samuel,

Isaias was never a man with a sense of mission or vision where he has always had a laser sharp focus on one thing and one thing only–Power. He attained power in the Eritrean field through manipulation and turning the cultural and religious divide of ከበሳ–መታሕት to his advantage.

As you’ve aptly put it, he wouldn’t have had any serious loopholes in Tigrai to manipulate and turn any cracks to his advantage either. The Front, from the get go had a clear mandate and ideology on how to lead and function where collective leadership was the ethos. Again, Isaias couldn’t have survived in that kind of milieu. I guess, the stars must have aligned for the Front to have been spared of a person like Isaias in its midst.

Abi

Paul
Time to hide under an undisclosed, underground, concrete fortified and airtight bunker before the snipers arrived with their AK 47.
Make sure to pack enough water and dry food that lasts you until end of May.
ደጉ የደርጉ ዘመን ይሻል ነበር
የሚል ዜና መጣ ካባሻውል መንደር
አንተም ይህን ብለህ እማን ሆድ ልትገባ
በል ሳይተኩሱብህ ዝለቅ አዲሳባ::

Teodros Alem

Qabi
Tella ” eyebasebeh metta enda” for nationalist eritreans(those believe in eritrea), this is by far the most foolish argument, u guys r comparing dictators with colonizers, i know u r for “dabo” before anything, before sovereignty but ask any nationalist ethiopian (those believe in ethiopia), about the 5 years occupation of Italy vs about derg/hs, which one they like.
Endabade washa atezebark, zem bel.

If u believe that the successful “ Cheguar Dangas” like Vet Semere and Mahmuday are “ Failure in Life”,who sacrificed their teen and youth life for the sake of others , and yet, to have become Teachers, Engineers, etc… with MAs and PhDs from the scratch with zero background in basic English and Elementary math after all the traumatic and devastating years, you should be the LOSER…. and …,
If u don’t want to be attacked,then STOP attacking others in any form!

Simon Kaleab

Selam Sultan/Hope,

Clearly, you are dazed and confused. You don’t know where you started and where you are heading. Can you sit down and relax?

Now, use 1961 as a base year. Irrespective of party affiliation, ethnicity, region and religion, what are the gains in terms of feeling secure, income, education, physical and mental health, and individual liberty for an ordinary Eritrean?

Evaluate your life.

Sultan M.G.

Simon:
You are the one, who should evaluate your life since you are the one, who is bashing about and belittling the lives of others.
U r the one, who have no clue about what u r talking about the origin and justification of the legit Eritrean political and Armed struggles .
Your way of thought process and logic about the Eritrean Struggle is but fallacious and lacks substance, to use your biased language.

We have had enough of Yosef G/ Hiwet .
The fact that one person screwed up things does not mean that the Eritrean struggle was fake and illegitimate and the fate of Post Independent and liberated Eritrea is blink and hopeless.
It is just a matter of time that we will get to where we deserve to be.
Everything is relative and relatively speaking, despite the hiccups and the ups and downs Eritrea and Eritreans have gone through due to obvious external and internal factors and interferences ,I think we are safe and on the right direction .
Weren’t we supposed to be decimated from the world map?
But Eritrea is INTACT as a nation and as a people despite the huge loss for the 20 years due multitudes of reasons and factors , which you are fully of aware of!
I consider your blink and pessimistic Asst of Eritrea as a Psychological warfare against Eritrea and Eritreans, which is NOT new to us !

Simon Kaleab

Selam Sultan/Hope,

You are trying to console yourself and justify the squander of 60 years. This is insanity, but facts remain as they are.

Hashela

Abi

“airtight”! Slowly but surely, you are becoming a good friend of Eritrea

Abi

Hashela
I have always been the best friend of Eritrea. I did my best to protect Eritrea from Eritreans. I failed miserably!! Well, with friends like you around me, I’ll try again.

I was expecting the straight shooter snipers to aim at St Paul. Well, the boomerang thrower appeared from his hideout.
Watch out!!!!

Simon Kaleab

Selam Abi,

Definitely, no boomerang thrower but a creepy character with nothing of substance to say. [Ashmuregna in Amharic].

At last they will understand that you are not, can’t be, in the hear no evil, see no evil, and speak no evil camp. That is the essence of being an intellectual, having the courage to criticize oneself when it is right, instead of covering up. He who hides his illness will have no cure. They should know.

The story of two ladies sitting at their door steps during the evening, who said, at least during the derg they had electricity, is an old one. No one should have been angry with that, because it was true, unless any truth that points to the Derg is anathema for political reasons. They have many other reasons to accuse the Derg for.

One of the problems is hiding the reality and whitewashing and rationalizing everything that happens in Eritrea, especially by regime supporters. Living with the dream of what she is not and can’t be, instead of aiming for what she can really achieve has always been the Achilles heel, in my opinion. Had they lived in the real world, Eritrea could have been a different country by now.

Semere Tesfai

Selam Paulos

“When Eritreans are misty and nostalgic of the Dergue era, that tells you all!”

We Eritreans never said the Dergue(s) were sterile; we said the Dergue(s) were barbaric. And we Eritreans are civilized enough to accommodate the few.

Semere Tesfai

Berhe Y

Hi Semere,

Eritrea being one of the last African country to gain full independence, it has the wisdom to learn from mistakes in f others and set on a right course.

EPLF has the support of the whole population and support from many good wishers alike. I think may be that’s the problem.

Speaking of other African countries who were able to transform, Botswana was a perfect example.

The country was the second last pure country in the world. It was land locked, and Surrounded by three hostile neighbours, South Africa and the colonial powers in Namibia and Zimbabwe.

Khama, the first prime minister set the country to path of democracy and the rule of law and with good fortunes of natural resources, it’s one one the most richest country in Africa.

There was absolutely yes reason why Eritrea should be anything less if we had a visionary leader instead of what we have now, a malaria infested baboon.

Berhe

Nitricc

Hey Semere, you said it all but I will replay when I get home from work. In the mean time, I wanted you to tell me that Dijubuti undermines Ethiopia? there was food-shipment to Ethiopia from overseas and Dejubuti took it, yet, the Ethiopians flax their force on Eritrea. why is that? it is their intelligent leader who refused to use the Eritrean port and said let it be the drinking water-hole for the Camels. The tiny country gets from electric power to water from Ethiopia but the Ethiopians are scared this country?

Aron

Hi Semere,
I am not that articulate to put together pages long rebuttal but I like to say few things.

As far as accredited school goes I hope and I am sure you did not put your children in joe blow college or university. If you got Your children in good accredited schools, I would have thought you would want that same thing for all Eritrean kids.

For starters What i want for Eritrea is simple things like for people to be ruled by laws not by the whim of one man. I want simple things like checks and balances, budget approved by people’s representatives, for people to take their own money from the bank, for people to be allowed to work, for our children to go to accredited schools instead of staying in foxholes for 20 years, to have mature and healthy foreign relations and I long to see for people not to rot in dungeons with out being charged and not being able to defend them selves.
I have no problem admitting I don’t believe in the current Eritrean border. I also like to tell you I believe in the Unity of Tigrigna people. For now that can wait until the Tigrigna people can decide for themselves under better conditions. For right now I will settle saving our young’s from lampedusas, Sinai desert and refugee camps. I don’t want mothers and fathers to be arrested and fined hefty fines because their children run from government conscription looking for better life in the white land like you nitric and me.
My question to you is you pointed out what others want. What do you want for Eritrea. I respect your contributions in Ghedli. I don’t share your support for the government. I rather you support the people you help liberate from oppression.
Aron

Semere Tesfai

Selam Aron

1. – Very good points.
Having said that, first and foremost, let me say I haven’t recognized you – (recognize your voice of opinion) – in terms of the Awate colorful opinions. I’m sure you’re very opinionated like me; but until I catch your precise political wavelength, let me start to answer your questions in an honest way.

2. – “As far as accredited school goes I hope and I am sure you did not put your children in joe blow college or university. If you got Your children in good accredited schools, I would have thought you would want that same thing for all Eritrean kids.”

As hard working tax pairs, yes my wife and I did send our kids to highly regarded higher institutions of education. And our kids are earning way better than their parents. And I’m thankful for that.

3. – “For starters What i want for Eritrea is simple things like for people to be ruled by laws not by the whim of one man</u>.”

So, do you question the intelligence (as low IQ) of the people who support the PFDJ government? Do you believe they are herded by the whim of one man with no say at all – even those who reside outside Eritrea? What makes you think you’re smarter than them? Meaning, what makes you think you can differentiate right from wrong and they can’t? What makes you think they can be manipulated and you can’t?

4. – “I want simple things like checks and balances, budget approved by people’s representatives, for people to take their own money from the bank, for people to be allowed to work, for our children to go to accredited schools instead of staying in foxholes for 20 years, to have mature and healthy foreign relations…….”

(a). – I’m with you on that. I don’t have any qualms with what you mentioned above – you just have to be very specific, and you’ve to back-up your claims with facts and figures.

(b). – Considering the global politics that goes with everything in our lives – because a higher learning institution is accredited by the West doesn’t necessarily mean it is a good school; and because a school is not accredited by the West doesn’t mean it is valueless school. The nuclear scientists of North Korea are not from Western accredited higher learning institutions; what does that tell you?

5. – ” I long to see for people not to rot in dungeons with out being charged and not being able to defend them selves.”

Because you haven’t heard about it, or because you don’t know about it, or because you don’t like the verdict of the court, doesn’t mean the people who’re “rotting in dungeons” didn’t had their day in court. They did. You just didn’t know or like like the verdict of the court. As to the specifics of it, listen to Dr. Andebrhan Weldegergis – one of the opposition leaders have to say. I don’t know more than him. Leniency is an argument I would accept.

6. – “I have no problem admitting I don’t believe in the current Eritrean border. I also like to tell you I believe in the Unity of Tigrigna people. For now that can wait until the Tigrigna people can decide for themselves under better conditions.”

I completely disagree; though I admire your honesty.

7. – “For right now I will settle saving our young’s from lampedusas, Sinai desert and refugee camps. I don’t want mothers and fathers to be arrested and fined hefty fines because their children run from government conscription looking for better life in the white land like you nitric and me.”

Two points here

(a). – Running from National Service (government conscription) is a crime by any nation. Don’t even try it. When I became US citizen, like everybody else, this is the commitment I made: if I’m called for duty, I sweared to bleed and die defending the US. That’s how it goes.

(b). – Leaving your country looking for a better life is not a crime; but it can’t be construed as injustice done to an individual Eritrean citizen by the PFDJ regime either. Eritrea is a poor country; therefore poverty in that country is a reality of life – PFDJ or not PFDJ. Get over it!

Aron: was pleasure conversing with you. Thank you for engaging; and thank you for being very respectful. Hope to talk to you some other time. Thanks again.

Semere Tesfai

Abi

Hello
ወንድም አማች
Two point here
1 it must be snowing outside
2 I can definitely tell that you are wearing your ጨጋር ዳንግ ቁምጣ ሱሪ with matching ባለስምንት መስኮት ሼዳ

Semere Tesfai

Selam ጋሼ ወንድም አማች

“Two point here
1 it must be snowing outside
2 I can definitely tell that you are wearing your ጨጋር ዳንግ ቁምጣ ሱሪ with matching ባለስምንት መስኮት ሼዳ”

To begin with, I’m not the brightest light bulb on the Awate’s Christmas Tree, but I as a ጨጋር ዳንግ ባለ ቁምጣ ሱሪ who never missed a single shot/bullet on his target – I’m stunned my shots from my well calibrated gun to have landed way off the mark. Blame the mileage on the ጨጋር ዳንግ. Thanks for the feedback though. I’ll try harder.

2. – Now I know – not only you’re a master of ሰምና ወርቅ but also a man who tells the truth. I remember you telling me once that your genius kids have your brain and their mom’s beauty. Makes sense!

3. – Once an Ethiopian friend told me, when it comes to brain power – Shoans are እንግሊዝ, Gonderies are ሞስኮ, Guragies are Japanese, and Adwan Tigreans are simply ብልጦች.

The point: I don’t know if you do know, but at a minimum you’ve few drops of Adwa blood. Don’t push Tigreans to part from the motherland.

Semere Tesfai

Abi

Hello ወንድም ጋሼ
Three points here
1- I never doubted your effectiveness when it comes to using your well oiled gun and hitting the target specially . Are you kidding me!!
2- thanks for the kind words. I don’t think one finds Smart and Abi in the same planet.
You are definitely the brightest light on the Awate Christmas tree. The problem is you show up only when there is a mountain of snow outside.
3- I don’t push the Tgreans from the motherland. I don’t beg them to stay either. In the immortal words of Dr Tewodros “ I don’t give a damn!

Semere Tesfai

Selam ወንድም ጋሼ

“I never doubted your effectiveness when it comes to using your well oiled gun and hitting the target specially.”

Ahhhh……. ወንድም አማች – I haven’t even told you my ድልድይ የማፍረስ talent. I think about my talent (that is being wasted) every time I cross the interstate bridges of this great nation 🙂

Happy Easter to you and to your wonderful family.
Take care and be safe

Semere Tesfai

Aron

Hi Semere,
Thanks for the response.
“Trust me – there is a government and there are laws in Eritrea. There always have been. I assure you on that. You just don’t like them. And all you’ve to be is – courageous credible and honest person – and say I don’t like the laws and the PFDJ government of Eritrea. Simple as that.”

I like to trust you. We need verifiable system. How and why did all those Gedim Tegadelti perish. Why were not their families allowed to see them? How did the appeal process work. Is it all the law of trust me by supporters? I understand. I was once ardent supporter until it hit hard home.

“Because you didn’t know, because you didn’t see, because you didn’t like the verdict of the court doesn’t mean the people you’re talking about didn’t commit a crime, didn’t had their day in military court, or didn’t had a court verdict.” I don’t see the law , the verdict or the trial hence can’t trust. Is not that my whole complaint. people disappearing with out trace and you telling me to ask Andemariam and social media. What a system. We are in real trouble.

I agree with you people should not run from national service in accordance with the law. In our case 30 months. I never suggested otherwise. I was talking about conscription for life as the main reason for people to run from the law if it exists like you said it exist. Of course with high intelligence and education like yours, you knew exactly what I was talking about.

On the school system, I’ll take the western system any time than north Korea.

On the respect side, I respect every one and if I object it is still with respect. The disrespect comes at all times as far as I know from nsu and supporters, like if you don’t like it go to the moon and people should go to the water not the water come to them kind of things you know. And also read Nitric Blink and all others calling Woyanes Dedebits and stuff to people who disagree with them.

You may also know and have trustable info why Ciham is in there since she was 15. She probably was tried under secret Military tribunal for trying to cell the country to the Woyanes.

last but not least, I believe in god and in science. I don’t think they are mutually exclusive as you think. Hmamat is here, I will pray for our people to be safe and respect and abide by science and the authorities. Gods to god and Ceaser’s to Ceascer. Thanks.

Paulos

Selam Aron,

I admire your energy and stamina. I wish I had it so that I could engage supporters of the regime for a debate. We debated for twenty long years and the hard lesson I have learned is ናብ ዘይሰምዓካ ደርቢ ኣይትማህለል! Happy Easter!

Selema Semere Tesfai,
I know this is about Eritrea internal politics but I couldn’t keep silent on this.

You said…. “(a) What makes you think there are no laws in Eritrea? If you don’t like the existing laws or the current Eritrean government, does that make your claim true? Trust me: there is a government and there are laws in Eritrea.”

Just wondering about your response, the article above is about “Ciham Ali”. Ciham Ali was arrested when she was 15 years old, 15 years old*. The dictator who arrested the 15 years old high school student is the very person you support, DIA.

Yes Eritrea has laws, even N.Korea has laws, but does the government abide by the law? If government doesn’t abide by the law then what is the purpose of bragging “there is a government and there are laws in Eritrea”?
When you respond please be specific on “Ciham Ali” imprisonment and others like her and your statement “there is a government and there are laws in Eritrea”. Why was she imprisoned? Has she ever present in front of the court? Do you know where she is? Is she alive?

There are many similar story that we don’t know (the article put it well), so what does it mean to say “there is a government and there are laws in Eritrea”?

By the way I have no problem you supporting IA, or PFDJ government, that is none of my business, you have the right to support whoever you like, but claiming “there is a government and there are laws in Eritrea” is just stretching the truth.

Thanks,

Simon Kaleab

Selam Samuel,

The key questions should be: Are these laws made with the free consent of the people? Are the people, collectively, entitled to change them if they disagree with them?

Samuel

Selam Simon Kaleab,
That’s good question, I don’t think he can answer that.

If there is no justice, where is the government? and where is the law? Especially when you hear PFDJ government has arrested a 15 years old high school student, what is the need to brag “Trust me: there is a government and there are laws in Eritrea.” It is against the truth on the ground, I am not sure to whom he is telling those falsehoods. Most people in this site are well read and well informed.

He can defend PFDJ on other things (if there is any), but not on the rule of law and justice.

Thanks,

Simon Kaleab

Selam Aron,

I find your writing to be very articulate. But, if you are expecting a logical response from dazed and confused communities, may God grant you infinite patience.

Also, remember the saying: “You Will Know Them by Their Fruits.

Aron

Hi Simon,
Thanks man, happy Easter
aron

Berhe Y

Dear Aron,

You wrote “I have no problem admitting I don’t believe in the current Eritrean border. I also like to tell you I believe in the Unity of Tigrigna people. For now that can wait until the Tigrigna people can decide for themselves under better conditions.”

First I really admire you for writing honestly and straight forward, what you thoughts are and what you like to see. This is admirable please keep it up so people can have an honest discourse with you.

1) I am part of the Tigrigna people and as a fellow Tigrina people, what is there for us Tigriana people from Eritrea with this union that you are proposing?

2) Can you tell us, any positive experiences that we had as people with the people from Tigray (I am assuming) the union you are proposing.

3) What do you expect to happen to the rest of Eritrea (other than the Tigrina?).

4) Does this union also include Afar and Red sea?

Than you,
Berhe

Abi

Hawna Berhe
Until Aron gives you his answer I like to inform you that the Afar and Red Sea regions will be united to Ethiopia. Problem solved.
I am warming up to this Agazian idea.

Nitricc

I got a good news for you. finally PMAA solved the Tigray problem. silently this happens in tigray.

Selam Berhe Y.,
The real danger for Eritrea lies here. Eritrea will find herself in the most difficult situation, because she will be divided geographically (Highland vs lowlands), religiously (Christian agazians vs Muslims), ethnically (tigrigna speakers vs the rest). That could be the end of Eritrea for two main reasons – she will be swallowed by greater Tigray and she will be divided, the rest going to Sudan and Ethiopia. War that engulfs the whole region will be fought, and only God knows what will remain in the end. It is an anti-Eritrea conspiracy to sacrifice Eritrea to fulfill the big dream of greater Tigray. No mistry about it.

Saleh Johar

Hi Horizon,
Can you dream something positive about Eritrea, for a change? Please try.

I always dream good things about Ethiopia, even when I know you have worse social and political problems compared to Eritrea. Our tyrant inherited tyranny from you, remember the 800 years of history under elect-of-god tyrants and dictators? But I do not dream negative dreams about Ethiopia. It’s always flowery and rose petals flying everywhere, despite the destructive ethnic and other cleavages that outnumber the course of all your rivers. Be kind.

Selam SJG,
Why not. I can wish them good luck. Let their dreams come true, all dreams they might have, and also the Tigrigna speaking people are united and they prosper and live in peace and happiness for ever. Who is there to stop people from dreaming. Let Ethiopians too learn to dream flowery for Eritrea as Eritreans are doing for Ethiopia

Paulos

Selam Horizon,

Eritrea’s predicaments are not that complicated. That is to say that, for the nation to get back to normalcy and to stand on its own feet is not that hard. All it needs to do is get rid off the regime in Asmara. That is all there is to it.

Nation building had long started in the 1930s during the colonial era and what is left is state building and that is done through a general consensus rooted on common history—-history based on the protracted struggle for independence where practically almost every household had paid a price and a common scar where almost every household is affected by the brutal Isaias regime. These two powerful historical experiences will pull and bring the people together for a better future where the rest as they say are mere footnotes. Certainly, as Julius Caesar famously said it, if fortune [good luck] is to be on one’s side, one has to work hard for it.

Saleh Johar

Thanks Horizon,
Of course why not? That was the gist f my comment.
But sometimes we talk from both sides f the mouth and that is when food and saliva are shot with our words. All I am saying is it’s not decent to talk while chewing. Now I will get a nap and dream positive things. Thank you

Selam SJG,
Have it your way. If you think that i am indecent and you are decent, it is a matter of opinion that doesn’t affect me. Again i say, no one is a saint nor a devil.

Saleh Johar

Sorry Horizon,
I apologize you are offended. But replying to your sarcasm with the like should not offend you. It’s only fair that you receive what you give. Still, I criticized you because I often see you wish ill for Eritrea and I pointed that to you because I felt it’s just not good. Instead of slowing down, you doubled that up. In case you forgot, I am Eritrean and after a cycle of provoking comments against my country, you should be sporty and allow me one reply in kind. So, take it easy, even the holy books say, you reap what you sow. Let’s leave this behind us and I kindly ask you to be sensitive and not abuse the patience of some of us. Please don’t gloat over our misery, it is not something we expect from enlightened neighbors. A little sensitivity can go a long way and let’s remain friends and have peace. Check your mail box at home, I sent you an olive branch–not through the pot office but with a homing pigeon. Peace out!!!

I apologize too. Be sure my criticism doesn’t come in any way imaginable out of getting any sort of satisfaction from the plight of other people, especially the Eritrean people, with whom Ethiopians have lived and still live. I call that sick and inhuman to think of. What i am trying to say is that one should have a soft spot in his/her heart for the suffering people, when one is somehow better off, thanks to the Lord.
Talking about what went wrong is not a sin, in my opinion. On the contrary, it may remind us all that the problem is not forgotten, for it’s everybody’s problem in the region, whether the problem is in Ethiopia or Eritrea. The blame lies on the political elites and not on the people. It is possible that what I believe in my heart and the impression I gave didn’t correspond so well.
Let there be peace and prosperity for the people of Ethiopia and Eritrea.

Aron

Hi horizon,
What you just stated above was already done by no other than entering minilik and the Italians. It worked. Divide was our house you guys won. When we were united you guys, the Egyptians and Italians know what we are capable of. So you are back to the old trick. You are worried about Ertra getting swallowed by Tigrai. Don’t worry brother, Tigrai Eritrea is the same no difference. That divide and rule thing I believe is for bygone times. I believe the next generation will be better than their fathers. Aron

Selam Aron,
When you say, “I am not trying to shrink our border, I am trying to include what is naturally ours Tigray and expand it.”. Expand the borders at the expense of which people? Do you have in mind the Afars and all the other ethnic groups that live in the region? Will it take place with their consent (which i doubt) or by force?

Teodros Alem

horizon
snoop, u guys r still trying to make alliance by creating common enemies as usual, this is the reason why people say corrupted mind is always corrupted. aron just told me “he want the people decide freely” but he is at it.

Aron

Hi Horizon,
Refer to my response to Berhe please. Aron

Sultan M.G.

Horizon:
Please, with all due respect, I advise you to review the more than 135 yrs old Eritrean history!

If Eritreans have survived against all odds and against all kinds of Tsunamis, Divisive politics and agenda for decades; and have come out to be the winners and have stood taller and stronger against all ODDs, there will be NO other agenda or power that will make them fail anymore!

In fact, the hard lessons they have learned for/from the last 5-6 decades or century shall make them stronger and more united than ever.

Paulos

Capo,

Can you be a good sport and share with the rest of us the Tsunamis Eritreans faced and overcame it? If what you have in mind is Isaias when you talk about Tsunami, I would partially agree with you for they haven’t defeated him yet but if what you have in mind is the defunct Dergue, hardly it was a Tsunami.

Abi

Paul
The only Tsunami I see is his comments. He is shooting in every direction.

Paulos

Abination,

That is precisely my point. The hyperbole is just mind boggling. I get what he is trying to say but again there is no need to inflate it out of proportion.

Sultan M.G.

Doc:
With all due respect t,Dottore,we precisely also know who Prof Tekeste and Dr Paulos are and what their agenda and stand on Eritrea and Eritreans are/is !

U r no less than your Abination for belittling the horror the Eritreans have gone through!

And to tell you the truth, no other Ethiopian regime has tortured Eritrea and Eritreans worse than the TPLF , its Leadership and its followers have done!

Am fully aware of the destructive role of the PFDJ Leadership but that was coz of the devastating role the TPLF has played and us still playing !

Paulos

Capo,

Wrong! My problem was with the wording you employ so to speak. There is no need to inflate it.

Sultan M.G.

Doc:
Well, I have news for you that only a nano-fraction of the horror and TSUNAMI Eritrea and Eritreans have gone through have been documented.

Selam Sultan M.G (Major General),
Why are you barking about TPLF day in and day out? I thought your master DIA has already declared “Game-Over”, thus the game is over stop talking about TPLF. Do your homework and clean your house first.

Do you watch the Seinfeld sitcom TV series? In one of the episode Elaine said “George isn’t bald he is baaalding….just a little…”.

At least you need to have some kind of clarity on the “Game-Over” chant. If it is over it is over, there is no “undo” in real life.

Gaslighting isn’t helpful at all, just slow down and understand your limits, what TPLF did to DIA was they just thought him the limit of his ego. Don’t forget that DIA and PFDJ leadership was hibernating for 20 years, that was one of the good lesson they took from TPLF great classes, but they seem to forget that.

My two cents for you … “Do your homework and clean your house first”, ego, exaggeration, grievances isn’t helpful. Let’s use our past mistakes and wrongdoings to create a stronger future. Your number one enemy isn’t TPLF, it is DIA and PFDJ leadership.

Thanks,

Sultan M.G.

Selamat Guad Abinet, the ESEPA Remnant and Derghi left-over Dude:

You have NO MORAL ground to talk about Eritrea and Eritreans.

Hands off Eritrea, Eritreans and their Business,please!

Abi

እዋይ

Sultan M.G.

Selam Abi:
Guaddu:
Akatarinet is NOT an Eritrean culture, and as such, am NOT here for Guad Abinet’s style akatarinet but to shoot at and hit back to those entities with Anti-Eritrea stand and attitude!

Simon Kaleab

Selam Sultan/Hope,

There are many cultures within Eritrea.
So, which culture do you have in mind?

Teodros Alem

Selam berhe
if this union doesn’t affect other neighboring people of the region, meaning if the union do not try to Invade other peoples land, i think what aron idea is great idea specially for ethiopia and the region.
but first what aron and his likes need to do is creat a friendly environment between tigrai and highland eritrea, they need to work to hell the wound and animosity instead of working for regime change, let us say pia is gone today and a agazian friendly gov take power in eritrea, what the agazian r planning to do about the nationalist eritreans? Silent them? That might creat a country called agazian but a miserable and destabilized agazi.
First creating a peaceful and friendly environment is a way to go instead of endless sabotage and animosity.

Aron

Hi Teddy
I don’t want anyone “silented”, I want reconciliation reunification and harmony. Let people decide their fate. People if allowed know what is good for them. I agree with you about creating conducive atmosphere and build trust between the people.
aron

Aron

Hi Berhe,
I just saw your post and will get back with you tomorrow. I am an employee short and stock at work.
Thanks, Aron

Aron

Hi Berhe,
First it is natural to stay one if you are one and the same. if the same people were separated for what ever reason they should work towards unity.
Second unity is strength. That question you always ask what is in it for Eritrea Tigrigna people it sometimes naggs me also. When I think of how victory was achieved in united front against all odds and against very powerful military I say unity is strength and answer my own question.
Third the people were separated against their will. Good example they want to be together is what we saw when that border was opened briefly. That other thing you mention what the feudal lords did before should be seen in time context. They use to go at each others throats to solve power struggle problems thereby hurting people. Issaias is a continuation of it. We need to change.

I am not trying to be controversial, actually far from it. If I have offended you it is not intentional.But I am truly worried about how Kebessa is getting depopulated and have seen arguments to make Arabic our national language to minimize Tigrigna in to obscurity. You have seen this week someone arguing for Eritreas national language Tigrigna not to be used in this forum.

Afar and all other people have coexisted with Tigrigna from time immemorial. I am not trying to shrink our border, I am trying to include what is naturally ours Tigray and expand it.
I am a simple man and this is my opinion that is shared by a lot of people. I am not a member of any organization or group yet. I am waiting for a unitary, reasonable and equitable leadership to all our people to materialize and give them a chance to decide for themselves and let the chips fall where they may.
Aron

Nitricc

Hey Aron: in the interest of clarity; are you a Tigrayan; meaning from Tigray?
Thanks.

Aron

Hi Nitric,
As defined by the current border yes. aron

Nitricc

Hey Aron: so, again in the interest of honesty, are Agazian?

Aron

Hi nitric,
Yes Nitric, I am Agazian, Habesha Tigrigna which all means the same. You may have forgotten but I’ve stated this many times. I also am on record disagreeing with the war mongers and some agitators with harsh rhetoric. Aron

Nitricc

Hey Aron; thanks for bing honest; so if you are against war mongers; does it mean you are against weyane? It is your right to be on any side but don’t you see the wrong with idea of agazian? If you are saying the Tigrinya people, what are going to do with other Eritrean populations?

Aron

Hi nitric, The idea of agazian is not wrong. Of course in every party there are abusers. Agazian means descendants of geez. The inclusion of Tigrai into Eritrea doesn’t mean something is going to happen to other people. Why would you think that.They will coexist like they do now. There should be inclusive constitution that protects minorities.
Weyane unlike PFDJ has good sides as bad sides. I’ve stayed in Eritrea and Tigrai for little bit over four months last year and I tell you Tigrai have thousand more rights than we do. Weyane marched 25 years forwards while PFDJ marched 25 years backward in every way that counts.
Nitric, when I saw the difference kebdey Hirir eyu elu. Not because they gained, but because it showed me clearly what we could have done with a whole lot better skilled populace if allowed to work if they could do what they did with the hand they were dealt when they took over Tigrai. I’ll not be surprised if you say it is because of the war weyane brought and so on. If Issayas stays in power for the next ten years we will be going 10 years backward while the world marches ahead. Aron

Nitricc

Hey Aron; Thanks for the post answering my question . And thanks for your answers and honesty. However; let me repay your honesty as such honesty. I refused to believe a full bolded Eritrean person will wish and want Tigray Tigringi or Agazian state. It is really a slap in the face to the lowlanders who paid more than their share to create a country called Eritrea. Anyway, it is free to dream and it is free to wish but in million years, there never will be Tigray-Tigrnigi BS in Eritrea. So, I advise you to pack your back-pack and head to your beloved Tigray. It amazing; for a people who deported pregnant women through a war zone; because they didn’t like the color of their eyes and now you want Tigray-Tigrini state? Have a little respect to the full blooded Eritreans and to the victims of the evil TPLF. .

Sultan M.G.

Hi Aron:
For the sake of honesty, if you are an AgAzian, does it mean that you believe in the AgAzian Agenda of polarizing and dividing Eritreans based on their region, ethnicity and religion?

Aron

Hi SMG,
Read the answer to Nitric below because you copy pasted his question. Read also response to Teddy and Berhe. Ashas hanti derfu, you been saying tegaru this tegaru that for twenty plus years. Redundant. Aron

Aron:
U might not be as articulate as Ustaz Teg Semere Tesfai but for sure as knowledgeable as him vis-a-vis Eritrea and Eritreans and the unheard of a non-ending atrocities and difficulties they have gone thru .
The TPLF and its supporters (read : Tigreyans) are some of the culprits , which contributed to that endless suffering of Eritreans and you have the gut and courage to tell us Eritreans here in our own home that we are brothers and dusters…. after miserably FAILING to destroy Eritrea and Eritreans!
Good to you with your outdated fake and treacherous propaganda !

Nitricc

Hey Semere; To my thinking this “ To look educated and civilized, they seek the validation of the “Whiteman” this worst disease it brought down the African continent and what do you think do a person? Read the anti-Eritrean crowed.
They don’t try to seek the truth; they fault finders and a bunch of people who are educated beyond their intelligence. If they were truly educated and care about the country they could have understood the TPLF dangerous plans for Eritrea. Many dishonest people think Eritrea started the war but in the latest General Tsadkan
told the world the truth. He said, “we had un agreed none of us to be armed
when we get in to disputed area then the Eritreans came in and we fired ” If
the TPLF highly paid Amara so-called journalist had any journalism duties, he could have followed the question and find the truth. All he had to ask the fat General was “ I thought you both agree not to carry an arm; where did you get the gun to gun down the Eritreans? But he didn’t. he is making 30K Birr a month and he can’t risk that. But if the truth to be told; they had an agreement and the Eritreans uphold it, they went in without their guns and TPLF was armed and waiting and massacred the innocent Eritreans. Once again the Eritreans were fooled. The rest is all out war to reverse the independent of Eritrea. The TPLF plan was to make Eritrea in another Somalia and have an absolute control every Eritrean affair from Mekkele. That was the plan but execute the plan you have create war and Eritrea just walked right in to the trap. The Eritrean government knew what TPLF’s plan after the war ended and Eritrean government has to guard with everything it has against this plan. Along in the line, there are few things wrong and wrongly executed but it was a necessary thing to do. At the end of the day PIA’s plan worked. Regarding the choice you presented, none of them works for Eritrea. One thing that will works for future Eritrea is; let PIA pick one person who will lead in transition. Give him or give her five years of time and within that time frame, holding REAL election; implementing REAL constitution and form three different parties. that is the best way to go. till then the grip should be even more tighter.

Semere Tesfai

Selam Nitricc

“They don’t try to seek the truth; they fault finders and a bunch of people who are educated beyond their intelligence. If they were truly educated and care about the country they could have understood the TPLF dangerous plans for Eritrea.”

Nitricc: these are the three sore-losers in this Awate world.

1. – The Amara elite. After dominating Ethiopian politics for a hundred years (a) the Western World, the UN, the Security Council, and the African Union lining-up on their side (b) Ethiopian population being twenty times the size of Eritrea – they thought Eritrean independence was just a pipedream, unattainable hope, fantasy, delusion…… Well, they learned their lesson the hard way – they lost their century-old dynasty, they lost their pride and dignity; and most of all they lost the Eritrea they bled for three decades. And at the end what did they get? A world record – the most populous landlocked country on this planet.

And these sore-losers are telling us here at Awate – yes you’ve your Eritrea and your Red Sea – but we have democracy but you don’t. Ethiopia and democracy on the same sentence? I’m speechless!!

2. – The Tigrean elite: Again dominating Ethiopian politics (thanks to Eritreans) not even a decade at the helm (a) the Western World, the UN, the Security Council, the African Union, the IGAD member nations, the SANA Form, every shady and dubious “Human Rights” organization, the Unionists, the Derg Babies, the Eritrean sellouts sore-losers opportunists lining-up on their side (b) Ethiopian population being twenty times the size of Eritrea (c) dividing Ethiopians into ethnic fiefdoms – they thought that …………

(1) – they were destined to rule Ethiopia for the next hundred years

(2) – defeating the Eritrean Jonturas was a matter of – at the most three days battle(s)

(3) – accomplishing the Greater Tigray project – a project that extends from Alewaha to Weqait to Assab and to the Coast Waters and Islands of the Red Sea was a reality that was just few months away

Well, theTigrean elite learned their lesson the hard way – they lost the power they had; they lost their pride and dignity; and most of all they lost a reliable dependable trusting honest friend – Eritreans. And today, they are begging the very friend they betrayed to throw them a life-jacket to keep their head-up to breath so they can live to see another day. How do you see the very friend you stabbed on the back repeatedly – squarely in the eye and say – let’s be friends again?

3. – The Eritrean Opposition: Believing they were on the side of the winers – the Eritrean opposition leaders synchronized their policy with Woyane’s policy, blessed Ethiopian invasion and occupation of their country and people, followed the invading Ethiopian army riding on the back of their tanks stepping over the dead bodys of our Warsays and YikaAlos, willingly and knowingly became instrumental in sanctioning their country and starving their people, willingly and knowingly became instrumental in the exodus and death of our young, willingly and knowingly became instrumental in the vilification and demonizing campaign siding with all Eritrean enemies, to this day (May 1998 – April 2020) never voiced a single statement in opposition to the occupation of sovereign Eritrean territories by the Woyanes. And to the surprise of no one, they’re still flirting and sympathizing with their old bosses and financiers. If this is not treason I don’t know what is.

Semere Tesfai

Abi

ወንድም አማች
You listed the three losers in your unusually short hateta.
Who are the winners?

Semere Tesfai

Selam ወንድም አማች

“You listed the three losers in your unusually short hateta.
Who are the winners?”

Hi MM,
I second.
Even though my tigrigna is not what you call fluent, I get what Semere is saying. Issayas married Eritrea for life and is not going to leave her for another Country after 55 years. Completely besides the point to what he is doing to Eritrea. Granted isu is a good gorilla fighter and played his role as the leader to usher in independence. As a leader after independence the man is beyond horrible. And Mariam Barka if she voluntarily married him she is asking for divorce. He just doesn’t listen. Aron.

መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

Hi Aaron,
I believe you have very good understanding. In this case, I was having some fun 🙂

Sultan M.G.

Ahlen Bika Ya Ustaz Semere:

Thank YOU, SIR!

Did U CC this articulate and to the point commentary to Ayte Simon Kale-Ab?

Even our famous Shoan Kim Hanna admired/praised you for your accurate and truthful articulation!

It is curious to read your eloquent extended comments and not marvel at the similarities of your core beliefs and that of Haile Selassie.
Most of the problems of THEN are the same problems of TODAY stated in a slightly different way.
I am not interested as to how you address and how you reconcile these unresolved social pathology in the future. It will keep ticking until it resolves itself.

The mention of your talents about “bridges” brought memories of the old days. I never expected to politely communicate with the opposite end of that struggle.
You won and I lost, fair enough.

Question:
Now, after everything is said and done at the spot of April, 2020 time, do you feel “good” ….”successful” …”positive achievement” for your efforts and sacrifices.
The reality of having Eritrea becoming a sovereign nation, member of the African Union and United Nations worth the price of all the death and destruction, flight of virtually all the elites to the 4 corners of the world never to come back again and more importantly the unrelenting torture of the rest of the people as of to date, worth it. The number is such, every Eritrean is affected.
That is 3 or 4 generations of lost souls and counting.

I apologize for the brutality of my question as it might touch most Awatistas.

Mr. K.H

Sultan M.G.

Selam Semere and Nittric:
No doubt that what Eritrea has done so far against the COVID-19 pandemic is commendable, relatively speaking .
You guys are missing the other BIG picture:

***Keeping in jail more than , allegedly, 10 k people with no major crimes, if any.
Ignoring Basic Social and Political Justice is but a Major crime!

Hey MM; I have no idea what you are saying but I read people showering you with your skills of saying things in Tigrinya. If you are that brave and love your people, why not carry AK-47 and go to get rid of PIA? You see, when was in his prime, he didn’t like what was going on and he picked up his AK-47 and fought what he believed what was right. Now, I wish you post that Tigrigna of yours in the Jebena section. And please pick up your arm and fight PIA. Pia is going no where because you write BS and losers are applauding you.

መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

Hi Private,
It is a good thing that you have no clue that you have a medical problem. Everything that you write here is not normal but you fail to notice. You are indeed blessed. Let me state few facts:
1. You seem to think Eritrea is above any African nation. Wrong. At this moment we are at the bottom of the curve
2. You seem to think Eritrea is flourishing. Wrong again. We are starving to death when it comes to information, freedom, food, education, etc. It is very long to list here.
3. You think you know Eritrea. Wrong again. You are a Gojame born and raised. You are misinformed by the people around you.
4. You even think we are the smartest people on Earth. Do I need to spoil it for you? Let’s start with you. What exactly do you do? Take it from there and you will have an idea.

Oh, I forget you are just a on cell [as they said before] over 40 yrs old boy. Your only cell is betraying you, private.
As Abi said, go visit your parents homeland, if you really have a village to visit. Do you have one?

Nitricc

Greetings A-hole; no need for you to ballistic, but what I was trying to tell is your Enda-Suwa Tigrinya BS is distributing the flow of this forum. I know the old like your self and the old timers may appreciate your garbage BS but for the rest, you are nothing but a losers paradise. I know all but I will not be degraded on my age, I am 55 and you can’t take my life to cut it short. Lol, A-hole, all I am trying to tell you is, keep reading about a virus, if you weren’t stupid, you could have read it on line but that is your choice. However; that tells me you are a worthless Sh!!!!t and don’t you ever engage me. You are stupid and I hate stupid people. Thank you and good bye.

መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

Hi Nitricc,
You talk a lot of Eritrea but you get irritated when you see Tigrigna? You see how stupid this sound is? You are the core of stupidity and you won’t know what stupid is.
I would tell you to grow up but even if you double your capacity, it will only be dual cell 🙂

Nitricc

Sir, all I am saying is keep your Tigrean dialect to jebena section, can you do that?

መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

Tigrean dialect? Funny!
Spell it if you see any Tigrean dialect, even though there is nothing wrong with Tigrean dialect.
Typical hgdf lackey. You know what your county people [Gojames] call when they meet like you? ኣሳዳጊ የበደለው!
Now, you are ignored

Hi private,
You know what Malcom X used to call people like you? House slaves.
You keep praising DIA {to you DIA is Eritrea anyways} but serving USA as a low level soldier. Your life is full of hypocrisy.
Be careful of any virus, a single-cell old 55 yrs old boy 🙂

Nitricc

Greetings moda; my apology. sometimes, this people they bring the worst out people. having said that, this Tigrigna thing is really distractive to the flow of the forum. I can understand if there was alternative but there is, the Jebena section can be used strictly for Tigrigna post. I know some attention seeking and Enda-suwa wanna be artists are allowed to do this. For instance, there is no better one than Kokob-selam but he uses the jebena section. I even proposed from Jebena to be renamed to Kokob-selam page, my question is why is this person who got his engeenering degree got from Enda-Suwa is allowed to post his worthless Tigrigna posts?

If the information about the Eritrean Government’s refusal to accept much needed help in the form of protective materials and testing devices is true, then the regime has reached a new height of carelessness and neglect of its duty. At the same time and suspiciously, the regime is asking the Eritrean diaspora for Cash (cash only!) to fight Covid-19.

Even for its blinde followers, the regime is becoming indefensible.

Nitricc

Hey Heshela; you too, huh? I was yelling Abiy, there is a difference between building a nation and building sky scrapers. When you build a nation, you build the mind set. And the greatest challenge is to avoid being addicted to aid and dependency while bing poor. But once you break that challenge, the mindset of Work ethic, self- reliance and self worth achieved. He is going the right thing. I now for some no matter what he does, it is all bad and negative. I know it can be confusing, all the Ethiopian media are talking about it and they didn’t why Eritrea refused.

Teodros Alem

Selam Nitricc
the ethiopian gov didn’t build sky scrapers either, most of the buildings r built by privately owned companies.

Nitricc

Hey Teddy; again you are missing the point. Don’t you think there are thousands of Eritreans who are welling to built sky scrapers and shin Asmara? The proof is Eritreans built elsewhere from Juba, to Uganda, Angola, Rwanda and the list goes on. But the man in Asmara knows that is deceiving and misleads of what nation building is. The true nation building you got to start from the scratch, you start from the people’s mindset and the rest will fit in like magic. Last year FIFA offered to build state of art Stadium but Eritrea said, No! That alone should tell you what is up.

Teodros Alem

Selam Nitricc
Do u honestly believe eritrean gov don’t accept any assistant ? Google UN in eritrea. I even saw a UN YouTube that show a medical aid reception from un to eritrea at asmera airport.
Am not sure about Angola but there is no sky scrapers in juba, Rwanda, Uganda but i believe the eritreans can build a lot of buildings.

Teodros Alem

Selam hashela
If the eritrean gov’s refusal to accept the Chinese aid via ethiopia is true, it also shows the relationship between ethiopia and eritrea govs is not in a good ways.

Nitricc

Hey Teddy you are fishing in the wrong place. The Aid was from China, not from Ethiopia.

Teodros Alem

Selam Nitricc
I said from chine via ethiopia. The Chinese gave the aid to ethiopia to distribute it to the whole of Africa. Right?

Nitricc

Hey teddy; I understand but if it was from directly from Ethiopia your assumption could be, but this is from China. If you say, there is a problem between China and Eritrea makes sense but it is not Ethiopia that is giving the Aid, it China to many African country. If it wasn’t a matter of principle, there is nothing wrong Eritrea accepting the Aid. So nothing to do with Eritrea and Ethiopia but everything to do with principles.

Teodros Alem

Selam Nitricc
1st, the aid came not from Chinese gov, but from a Chinese billionaire jack ma.
2nd, the aid came by 3A request to jack ma , using 3A’s personal relationship with jack ma(ali baba)
3, ethio airlines was the one distributing the aid to the whole of Africa using its own expense.
The reason that u think otherwise is because u think eritrea do not accept any aid.

Nitricc

Hey Teddy; again, as long as there is TPLF, PMAA and PIA, will never have any problems between each other. Sure, there will be some strategy to confused the confused Weyane, but third alliance is here to stay. PMAA loves his power and PIA wants nothing than seeing the TPLF thugs dead. So, that is that and all I am saying is your assumption is unlikely. They need each other.

Teodros Alem

Selam Nitricc
Based on the ratheric and medias u r right, but in reality there is nothing that shows 3A and tplf r enemies and pia and 3A r bffs.
me believe, tplf never rule alone since 1993 and what happened 2 years ago was a reform that tplf was part of it and they r playing on different stages with different games but i know it sounds crazy but that is what i believe.

Nitricc

Hey teddy; I wired you money; and you rejected to accept, is this the bank to blame? No, you are rejecting it because of the source and the sender.

Teodros Alem

Selam Nitricc
the is what the reality on the ground telling me and that is what i believe.

Nitricc

Hey teddy; it is not in the ground not it is the reality; all you have is your opinion and your assumptions. To be reality and facts in the ground, one must be present and know the inside details.

Teodros Alem

Selam Nitricc
Isn’t that weird that both gov didn’t reach any agreement?
Isn’t that weird there is no any economic activity between the two countries until now except ethio airlines and phone?

Nitricc

Hey Teddy, because there is poisonous called TPLF, that why. I do believe there is a plan to get weyane to let it collapse in its own weight. Getting some young Tigriyans to join PP is the sign you should follow closely. It is a big crack on the weyane goons.

Teodros Alem

Selam believe
As far as i know tplf and the rest eprdf planned to dismantle their parties in 1993, the decision was made in 1993, they say it was necessary to operate as eprd / tplf, andm,opdo,spdmfor the time being, for tactical purposes.
what kind of power did tplf alone has to poison the relationship between eri and ethio??
do u know country to country relationship is the duty of the federal gov?
r tplf a rebel outlawed group?

Hashela

Hi Teodros

This is an interesting interpretation and you seem to have a good understand of PIA’s behavior. As infantile as it sounds, it is likely that PIA’s refusal to accept the help has do with the current state of PIA and PM Abyi relationships.

NewDawn

Selam hashela, can you elaborate why pia refusal of aid has to do with the current state of his relationship with abiy?

Aron

Dear Nitric,
As it maybe high time, joyous and wonderful dream come true for you, your likes and isu to see the country under complete lockdown, the view you put on is heart breaking, gut wrenching and painful for Eritreans. Hopefully soon you guys will be held to account.
Aron

Nitricc

Hey Aron; be thankful. And give the Eritrean government a little credit. It could happen like this but the brave Eritrean people did it right. Take a look

Hey Aron; it is! Eritrea is in Africa. But what Eritrea and Eritreans differentiations is the Eritrean People’s mindset. When hardship comes, they handle it with dignity and resolve. It matters. I am not saying it is all good but, judge for yourself

This is Denden street Asmara. On the left is the compound of the Presidents Palace/residence old Haileselassie Gbi. The Palace is not visible. On the right, the beautiful building is one of the government offices. This is one of the first streets to be planned and built by the Italians because it leads right in front all the way to the fort called Baldisera at the time. The street was named after Crispi (viale F Crispi) the Italuan Prime minister of the time. It is a beautiful street where are located the cinema Capitol, the old office of the second division (ሁለተኛ ክፍለ ጦር, of interest to you), the Italian consulate, the eye hospital and biggest Asmara hospital right at the end if the street.

Hashela

Selam Haile

I know Abi is too shy ask. What was the name of Denden Street during the Ethiopian occupation era? ምነሊክ ኣደባባይ?
Who is residing now in the office where the command of the ሁለተኛ ክፍለ ጦር was.

Abi

ጉተን ሞርገን
You are passing the salt to the wrong person.
Any Passerby knows who resides at the former command center. The Ethiopian Ambassador to Eritrea.

Hashela

Good one, ጓድ ኣብዮታዊ

Abi

Hashela
The nice thing about talking with you is most people don’t understand what we are saying.
እባብ ለእባብ…

Haile S.

Selam Hashela,

The Ethiopian time name of the street was Ras Mokonnen Avenue. I don’t know what the old 2nd division office us now. I don’t think it could be turned to a residence as Abi suggested.

Hashela

Selam Haile

Thanks for the info. So I was not far that from the true regarding the street name.

Abi

ጋሽዬ
I was just giving Hashela hard time. Our permanent Ambassador to Eritrea resides in the HaileSelassie Gbi.

Hashela

Abi

Your PM is repeatedly making mistakes by sending the wrong Ambassadors to Eritrea. PIA wants a Gonderie who boldly claims the return of WalKayit to its rightful owner

Hey Hashela, if I was an authority figure in Eritrea I will demand and accept Ras Abiy to be the Ethiopian ambassador to Eritrea, just to torch him.

Abi

Hello General
I make sure I visit Eritrea before you do. Now that is what I call torture! Oops.

Nitricc

Hey Abiy, you might but at the end of the day, you will report to me. Believe me.

Abi

General
I believe you General. Just let me know your location. I will report to you twice a day.
I bet you it won’t be in Eritrea.

Kim Hanna

Selam Nitricc,

Field Marshall, General Dada Nitricc, I want the job in Asmara. In my early high school days I used to look forward to having my honey moon in Asmara. I envisioned walking down the boulevards in the evenings. That is even before I had a girl friend. That dream is dead, but I still would like to walk down the roads hoping to see one of my old friends who might be sipping tea at one of those places. I wonder if it is an empty dead dream too, just the same I would like the job for closure.

Mr. K.H

Berhe Y

Dear K.H.

I hope you have a chance to go and visit Eritrea. Not only in Asmara, but please consider going to Massawa and Keren.

Anytime you can to Eritrea, even now, and I am sure you will have the best experience.

With so many things have gone wrong in Eritrea, the one thing that stayed the same is the people’s hospitality towards anyone.

Berhe

መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

Abi,
You mean Isayas? 🙂

Paulos

ኢንጂኔረ,

ሕክያ ጠፍሹካ’ሎ ከይትብለኒ’ምበር….

How do you exactly spell his name?

Is it:

Isaias
Esayas
Issaias
Isias
Essias
Essayas

መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

Doterre,
The right name is Isanass

Abi

Hello MM
እዩት ሲጠረጥር !

መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

Abi,
I thought about it since you said permanent Ambassador to Eritrea and he said to AAA to lead him. If you apply simple linear equation, you will reach to that conclusion as well.

Abi

MM
እዩት ሲያውቅ!

Abi

ጋሽዬ
የቀንየለይ
General Nitricc and Ras Abi are learning about Asmara at the same time.

Nitricc

Hey Ras Abiy; after you see this you will admire Eritrea and the Brave Eritrean people.

LAURA INGRAHAM: This virus originated in China, we still don’t have all the data, we still don’t really know about patient zero in China. A lot of that data is being withheld, still, from the United States, and top medical people are saying that. What about the Justice Department getting involved more, I guess obviously, to the American people in this battle against the ongoing propaganda machine of China in the United States at our universities, in businesses — hey, in the White House Press Room the other day.

ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM BARR: Yes, the Department is heavily engaged in that. In fact, that’s one of our highest priorities in the counterintelligence realm, counterespionage realm, and protection of trade secrets is our activity’s directed to defend
against the Chinese. The Chinese are engaged in a full-court blitzkrieg of stealing American technology, trying to influence our political system, trying to steal secrets at our research universities and so forth — and we are focused on it. We have something we call the China Initiative. We’ve brought a lot of indictments, but it’s something that we also have to expose by letting the business community understand exactly the nature of the threat.

Paulos

Selam All,

China is Great but America is the Greatest.

In his “Second Treatise on Government”, John Locke famously wrote, “In the beginning, all the world was America.” Perhaps, that kind of bold statement underscores the birth of a new world where according to Locke, Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness are taken not only for a national credo but America through providence is set to be a microcosm of a world where Individual Freedom takes the center stage as well.

But across the world, traversing vast oceans, mountain ranges and expanse of merciless deserts, a country has refused to be taken for a second class when it’s name means—“Middle-Earth” for it truly believed that, it’s Emperor was a representative of the vast Universe here on Earth. Experts tell us that, in the Chinese language, the word for China is “Zhong Guo”, which means “Middle Kingdom.” Again, “Middle” signifies not to the space between other rival Kingdoms but to all that lies between Heaven and Earth.

The relevant question we need to ask is then, what exactly happened to China to lag so much behind and ultimately lose its grand cultural status before it started to come back to restore its pride and equality among nations? We would have to look not only historical contexts but the role of the man whose sole mission is to restore back China’s lost greatness as well.

According to Xi Jinping, the General Secretary of the CP of China, the following are what it meant for him to restore China’s greatness.

*Returning China to the predominance in Asia it enjoyed before the West intruded.

*Reestablishing control over the territories of “Greater China” just not only Tibet on the mainland but also Hong Kong and Taiwan.

*Recovering the historic sphere of influence along its borders and in the adjacent seas so that others give it the deference great nations have always demanded.

*Commanding the respect of other great powers in the councils of the world.

The intense nostalgia of the old glory and unique position in history traces its roots when China boasts two Millennia old of Legalism and Law and Order including hierarchical administration based on Meritocracy when the rest of the world was still struggling to come out of the Dark Ages. The Millennia of Chinese dominance ended abruptly in the first half of the 19th Century when the Qing Dynasty came face to face with the power of an industrializing, imperial Western Europe.

The following decades were marked by a military defeat, foreign influenced civil war, economic colonization, and occupation by outside powers—first by Europeans and later by Japan. For much of this period, foreign powers exerted greater influence in China than the Chinese government itself. When the Qing tried to prohibit British merchants from selling opium to Chinese in the 1830s, London dealt them a quick, decisive defeat in the First Opium War, which begun in 1839. When the Qing sued for peace, the British pressed their advantage with the treaty of Nanjing, which ceded control of Hong Kong to Britain, opened five ports to trade with foreigners and granted British citizens immunity from local law.

And the subsequent Treaties forced the Qing to recognize Great Britain as a nation equal to China. Almost a decade later, the French joined the British in the Second Opium War, eventually burning the Imperial Summer Palace in Beijing to the ground in 1860. The defeated Chinese were forced to legalize both foreign merchants’ attempts to hook them on opium and foreign missioners’ efforts to convert them to Christianity.

The Qing’s efforts to defend China’s sovereignty through military strength proved futile. For centuries, China had treated Japan as a vassal state. But in 1894, a modernizing Japan attacked, seizing Manchuria, Taiwan and the vassal state of Korea. The exhausted Qing government couldn’t go on holding out what it could when the Dynasty collapsed in 1912 and plunged the country into a protracted Civil War—a war where Warlords divided China into their fiefdoms and it lasted for over forty years. In the meantime, Japan exploited the chaos and invaded the country in 1937 and occupied pretty much the entire country. The era of the Civil War is nationally known as, “Century of Humiliation.”

It wasn’t until Mao Zedong’s Chinese Communists won the Civil War in 1949 when the national humiliation finally ended. Throughout the famine of the Great Leap Forward, the disaster of his infamous Cultural Revolution, and his Stalinist purges, Mao’s achievement has remained the core of the Communist leadership’s claim to legitimacy. According to the leadership, the Party saved China from domination by foreign powers. And today, after three decades of economic growth and expansion, China believes that, it is coming back to its rightful place in the world stage. Its place however can only be receptive particularly in the developing world not only by injecting funds where strings are not attached but by standing for universal values as well as in human rights issues among others. America remains the Greatest precisely because of that—adhering to Universal Values.

P.S. Most of it is taken from the book titled, “Destined For War. Can America and China Escape Thucydides Trap.” By Graham Allison.

If i may ask, don’t you see hypocrisy in the America’s rhetoric, when it says that it stands for universal values and human rights? It has shown to the world, especially to third world countries, that it has no qualms to sleep with dictators who trample on their people’s human rights and carry out killings, as long as the famous American (corporate) interest is served. We can name mobutu seseko, who assassinated Patrick Lumumba ,so that the USA will not lose the uranium mines from which it extracted uranium that killed 70,000 people just in one city in Japan at the end of WWII, Chili’s dictator pinochet, who killed Salvador Allende so that socialism should not set foot in South America, and many other dictators. When such possibilities do not exist, they will go in themselves to invade other countries and kill on false premises, as they did in Iraq and elsewhere.

Human rights rhetoric and call for democracy by the USA is skin deep, and it is fake, in my opinion. They don’t see beyond their interests or the interests of American corporations. It is the key to open the door for exploitation, leave behind the dark continent as they like to call it, backward and poor, etc, rather than giving it opportunity to actualize its potential towards progress and economic development.

China may not give democracy and human rights, neither does the USA in actual fact, nevertheless China gives third world countries like Africa infrastructures, and the rest. If Africans are not lazy and corrupt they can build on these to extricate themselves from poverty and backwardness.

When there is neither democracy nor development, the priority for third world countries should be, in my opinion, to develop their economy first, and at the same time fight for democracy, rather than losing both, as it was the case with the West over the last five centuries.

Therefore, China is not a bad choice until America changes its ways. The capitalist system of exploitation has no future as Covid-19 proved it in the most dramatic way.

Hashela

Selam Horizon

Please add Haile Selassie to your listing of despots who with the support of the US were starving their people and slaughtering people of neihboring nations. I believe it was an innocent omission!

Abi

Hello Hashela
I never heard His Excellency slaughtering people of neighboring nations. Which neighboring countries do you have in mind?
A Kenya
B. Djibouti
C. Somalia
D The Sudan
E No country

Hashela

Hi Abi

fatigue and sleep depravation can lead to an ephemeral amnesia. Please have a sleep and then work on the list

Abi

Hashela
I will sleep over it and see if I forgot a country or two.
I suggest you cut your sleep by half. You are dreaming a little bit too much. You are hearing voices and seeing places that don’t exist.

“Wake me up before you go… “said George Michael

Hashela

Abi

You are almost there with your list. Ask Ethiopia ” who is sitting on your throat and suficating you?”. Then you will have the name of the country that is missing in your list.

Abi

Hashela
I will just do that.
In the mean time let me go back making coffee and midnight snacks for my son and his friends. I’m hosting two of his friends ( international students) who could not go back to their countries due to the current situation.
They have group projects with other international students at different parts of the world. You can imagine the difficulties that is caused by the time difference.
The place is active during the night time to accommodate those in India and Japan. There is one in Sweden, one in Nigeria. The other two are in US.
I’m the coffee manager:)
May be I will pass your question to them.

Hashela

Abi
where is እምቤትየ?

Abi

Hashela
Sleeping. She is a very light sleeper. I don’t want the boys come to the kitchen and make noises.
This is my responsibility I signed up for.
Great and noisy students!!

Hashela

Abi
I am in a similar situation.
Because of Covid-19 an international student went back to her country without doing the final exam. Now I am watching her remotely while she is writing the exam.

Abi

Hashela
Go easy with her. Enough stress already.
One more thing I forgot to tell you
I’m the door man to receive deliveries from food to amazon….
Interesting times

Hashela

Abi

It is a challenging and interesting time for every body.

For the first time, I am spending so mucht time with my 13 year old daughter and learning about her world

Abi

Hashela
Enjoy this time as much as possible. It is a rare opportunity!

Paulos

Selam Horizon,

True that, nations do not have permanent friends but permanent interests. The dictum cuts deep into the “Realism School of Thought” and arguably America is a prime paragon to that effect.

Moreover, as James Madison [One of the Founding Fathers] famously put it, “If America crosses the oceans in search of monsters to destroy, she will lose her own soul.” The ambivalence and contradiction which had played on world affairs have thus far defined America where some see it as an imperative Police-Man of the world [When it got rid off brutal dictators, such as Saddam Hussein, for instance] and others see it as a tentacle with an imperialist ambition no better than any other European powers of the 18th through 20th Centuries.

That said however, the distinction I tried to draw was not to sanctify one and taint the other, rather when America was founded on Ideas and Ideals, China on the other hand was driven by a “Cultural Osmosis” not by a missionary zeal to spread its values when it never had one.

Admassie

Selam Horizon,
I totally agree in all what you said it above.
But, your two opinions quoted bellow are well articulated.

1. “China may not give democracy and human rights, neither does the USA in actual fact, nevertheless China gives third world countries like Africa infrastructures, and the rest. If Africans are not lazy and corrupt they can build on these to extricate themselves from poverty and backwardness.”

First no country gives a dime with out speculating what it gets in return. The sense of being holy (ብፁእ) of the west and US in democracy as well as in free market is full of hypocrisy. The truth of the matter is the west shield its loan with preconditions aiming at extending its ideological, political and economic influence in weak and poor countries in the name of fake democracy and free market.

With all the failure in curbing corruption, Ethiopia’s development in infrastructure for the past 20 years was made possible with the huge money we got from China. This huge loan and its result in great development could not have happened if China was not in the picture to lean on. The huge investment in infrastructure has facilitated mobility of goods and human, provided services, created opportunities in exploiting resources and ultimately created jobs and has woken up the economy. As long as one maintains its economic development, loan can not be a burden for the economy sustains the return. Therefore, for poor countries like Ethiopia who do not have other means to access huge money, the opportunity provided by China (which the west can not provide) is a blessing.

2. “When there is neither democracy nor development, the priority for third world countries should be, in my opinion, to develop their economy first, and at the same time fight for democracy, rather than losing both, as it was the case with the West over the last five centuries.”

The human being has survived living with out democracy for thousands of years, but can not survive a week with out a bread! For a poor country such as ours, the concept of democracy is a luxury compared to poverty. Some times, the talk of democracy in the west comes from a position of luxury. But, we are seeing now how that belief is fragile in times of challenges and in the face of formidable enemy, corona! That is how we, citizens in poor countries, feel in the face of poverty and why we should give our priority to eradicating poverty.

Admassie A.

Paulos

Selam Admassie and Horizon,

If I could make a short comment here.

We had discussed about it many times before where the advent of Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan in the early 80s heralded “Neo-Liberalism” and subsequently plunged particularly the developing nations into an abyss through the West’s prescription of what is otherwise known as, “Structural Adjustment Program” [SAP] where they were forced to liberalize their meager infrastructures. And the latter day leaders, Meles among them turned to the East when the latter offered help as you both have aptly put it in your comments.

That said however, is China sustainable? Is it solid? America or the West in general attain legitimacy to govern their respective constituencies through their democratic institutions, China or the Communist Party, a single party which presides over 1.5 billion people draws its legitimacy through a state apparatus—collective control where security stands out the most and civil liberties are none existent.

That said however, sensing that, it is not sustainable and precarious including when the Asian nations in its neighbors were economically taking off, the Chinese leaders opened up the market right after the death of Mao in the late 70s. As such, they created a middle-class citizen which can give them legitimacy to govern so long as the middle-class is provided with the economic backbones it needs most. Once China slows down, however, its legitimacy to govern becomes shaky. Again, in a sharp contrast, America or the West relies on its organic and evolving Democratic Institutions irrespective of its economic standing.

Western democracy is not a panacea anymore, and it is passing through a serious crisis. We can’t say that it is the good example we knew it used to be for others to mimic. It is as precarious as any other system. We see institutions being forced to bend over to facilitate the demand of some western semi-authoritarian leaders who pass anti-people policies through democratic looking processes.

Western Neoliberalism has shrunk the middle class, a force which is known to support democracy, made the rich richer and the middle class poorer, dismantled the welfare state, brought the economic crisis of 2008, we are not sure if institutions do really function well, (the police – the judiciary biased against black people in the USA), radicalization of politics as the result of rising inequality, identity politics, etc. All these are undermining western democracy and we can not be sure if it can continue to work with these inherent controversies.

On the contrary, in China there may be authoritarianism and there may not be democracy as we know it in the west, nevertheless, the government has shown major economic achievements as never seen before in human history, brought out of poverty hundreds of millions of its people, made china a world power to reckon with, and its influence has expanded far beyond its borders. It has built institutions that are result-oriented and they are giving results as we saw when they built mega hospitals in an unimaginable short period of time.

No one system is perfect, nor is democracy, unless implemented practically as it should. The difference between the two is that western democracy is aging and gradually morphing into authoritarianism as we see in the USA, Italy, and elsewhere, while Chinese authoritarianism, we may guess without being sure, that with each success it may show a more democratic face in the future. No one knows. Anyway western democracy seems to be at a crossroad, either it has to fix itself or go to authoritarianism.

Paulos

Selam Horizon,

Western Democratic Institutions are resilient where they have gone through trials and tribulations when they first came to a serious test with the advent of “Magna Carta” in the 12th Century. As you have aptly put it, they are not perfect but they evolve with in their defined parameters in conjunction with the vagaries of history.

If we look at the Institutions from a classical and philosophical point of view, we might see them in a broader light where the two pillars—Liberalism and Democracy define what the West is all about.

Liberalism is as old as humanity where it cuts deep into the rebellious nature of humanity when the ultimate freedom of “Man” is the right to have unlimited power over “His” own life. On the other hand, Democracy is a social and more so a political construct that had evolved through the maturity of human consciousness.

The conundrum and dilemma rests not so much on how to redistribute Democracy but on how to rein-in on the power of Liberalism instead. That is to say that, if one is endowed by nature to do what he or she wills including being stronger and smarter than others in unequal stature, war against all will ensue as a result. The question remained: How do we stop the mayhem that was created due to the freedom that was given to us to have a full leverage and ownership of our individual lives including the right to infringe on the lives of others?

Certainly, thinkers and philosophers alike wrestled with the predicament when some prescribed for a central power to rein-in on the powerful in defence of the weak and marginalized—Thomas Hobbes’ Leviathan [Powerful Monarch], for instance and others prescribed for a Social Contract where every one gives up certain natural rights lest the society collapses under the burden of unmitigated freedom. As such, the natural aspect of Liberalism morphed into a political realm when Democracy offered a tool on how to equalize the unequal nature of humanity. The powerful had to give up his or her power; the strong had to give up his or her strength; the more intelligent had to share his or her intelligence with the not too intelligent; the wealthy had to share his or her wealth with the poor and needy. They do that, through the Ballot Box including the political institutions of Checks and Balances. This time tested arrangement had defined the very essence of the West and has thus far worked with all its shortcomings when other “Isms” either failed through history or stand on a shaky ground including Chinese Communism precisely because, it can not address the fundamental need of humanity—the right to own your own life.

Admassie

Selam Paulos,

I am not against democracy, cvil and human rights at all. Because, I know exactly what the lack of it mean in my day to day life.
But, building democracy and respecting essential rights need a transformation in society. This transformation will not happen while people are starving and desperate. The pressure to bring domocracy first in poor countries is not a call of those desperate majority. It is a fancy of some elites and the pompous west.

Therefore, it should not be surprising if governments of poor countries who want to fight against the real problem, poverty, turn their face to China for help and want to emulate her way of development.

I do not think China’s ruling will loose its legitmacy in times of stagnation for they have proved what they can make in times of desperation. The people of China may have thier own value in the type of governance they want which is not necessarily similar to the west.

Four months ago I had to host a Europian visitor in my house. She is a teacher and a good friend of my wife and two children in Europe. She came to stay for a couple of months. The first month, she was working as a volunteer in a rural area around Dembecha, Gojjam. After she came back, she was really depressed by the extent of poverty she saw and she was in tears when ever she talks about it. Once, she woke up early in the morning along with the local women who are bare footed and poorly dressed and went to a river to fetch water. That experience alone was an agony for her. Next she visited almost all the historical places and natural sites of the country.

After she returned I asked her what her experience was. She did not waste time in talking the usual tourist talk by praising the historical and natural places. She said emphatically ” You are poor!”
I said “Well Come to Ethiopia!”
“So…what do you suggest? Shall we fight for democracy or for bread first?”
She said “I do not think the women and the society in the Dembecha area know what the heck democracy is. But they understand what a tap of water and a bulb of light in house is. They know what will mean to thier children to have a bread through out the day. Therefore, skrew democracy and fight for your bread!”
I said “ሃሌ ሉያ! Well Come to Admassie!”

Teodros Alem

selam admasie
First i think ur history that u said above is a made up poltical story but even if it is true, what makes u think is the root cause of the poverty in gojam? Is it democracy or dictatorships? since there was never been democracy, it get to be dictatorship the root cause of the problem.

Abi

Admassie
ይህ ረመጥ የማይዳፈነው የኩበት ነው እንዴ?
You and I ልብ ለልብ!
I always believed that dimokrasi is so fancy I don’t even know how to spell it correctly.
እኔስ ዳቦዬን መግመጥ ነው የናፈቀኝ::
Welcome to Ras Abi! I have been in the trenches fighting fancy ideas like dimokrasi.

Teodros Alem

Qabi
tella, u guys really think u can make people silent by force and insult forever? I thought u guys r made to act like adgi car( gare) who don’t listen any thing( joro daba lebes) as u trained, i was wrong and now i know u guys r not just hourse cars, who don’t see right and left but u guys really think u can silence people by force and insult.
do u guys think democracy make a country or people poor ? The flipside of ur slogan “dabo first, democracy 2nd” means u can’t have dabo in democracy or what?
i tell u this throughout history ethiopia always been under dictatorships and if dictatorship will solve the shortage of “dabo” ethiopia will be full of “dabo” by now.

Sometimes I don’t know if I am in different world but I get puzzled why African countries are not able to join forces and created a unique currency so they don’t need anyone to fund their infrastructure and projects?

Look the US, just printed 2 trillion dollars to over one the crona crisis, and the rest of western world is doing the sane.

Why should Africa depend on China or the US or Europe to create wealth which is based on real assets and resources.

For example, is there an African stock market?

Berhe

Admassie

Selam Berhe,

The idea of one currency for Africa has been floating for some time. But, I do not know if it is feasible with out creating one economic market like EU. I believe creating one economic market by itself may need some level of development in infrastructure and others.
I do not know if there is an African stock market, but I know that Ethiopia do not have one.

Abi

Paul The Greatista
Very interesting as usual!
Please read “Day of Confession’ by Allan Folsom if you haven’t yet.
You won’t be disappointed.

Paulos

Abination,

Thanks for the recommendation. Will do.

Abi

Paul
You said “ China believed that it is coming back to its rightful place in the world stage “
It is rather China is slithering its way in the world stage through every crack imaginable.
Forgery, counterfeiting, corruption, cheap child labor, inhuman working conditions with the minimum wage, confiscating peasants lands…..

Paulos

Abination,

What you just said could be a stain of propaganda when you consider the following:

Perhaps, it helps more when we see the current Chairman–President Xi is a no nonsense guy when we look at his policies and ambitions for his country China. Experts on China take him serious not so much he intends to trick the world through forgery and counterfeiting as you implied.

Xi is determined China become a world leader in Science, Technology and Innovation by the mid-Twenty-First Century. He has boosted R&D spending incubated tech start-ups, and called for a “Robot Revolution.” In 2016, China employed more Robots than any other country in the world, for instance.

He believes that China’s concentration of power in government is inherent advantages over Western competitors because it can pool resources in a major mission. Unlike the US in recent years, it can also sustain commitments over a decade or longer if required, as it had demonstrated in becoming the leader in fast trains, solar power, super-computers among other areas.

Domestic reforms are matched by similarly dramatic changes to China’s role in the global economy. In 2013, Xi announced a multi-decade, multi-trillion-dollar infrastructure project called, One-Belt, One-Road [OBOR]. Its goal is a transportation and technology network spanning Eurasia and nearly all countries bordering Indian Ocean.

The plan will effectively export some of China’s excess industrial capacity and provide a cushion for the construction, steel, and cement industries, which have struggled in recent years as the country completed many of its highest priority infrastructure projects. The planned projects abroad are massive. From 1,800-mile, $46 billion corridor of roads, railways, and pipelines running through Pakistan, to Hydroelectric dams and Tin mines in Myanmar, to new Naval installation in Djibouti in the Horn of Africa. As you can see, these are hardly forgeries or counterfeits but grand ambitions with concrete results.

Simon Kaleab

Selam Paulos,

“Experts on China…”

Which experts?

Can you name any game changing new technology China invented in the last 100 years?

If basic teaching and research is top quality in China, why are students from mainland China flooding British Universities?

Paulos

Selam Simon,

Experts on China is not the same as Chinese experts. Experts on China are trained people [Foreigners] who have studied China instead.

I don’t think you would expect me to lay out for you all the inventions and innovations—if there are any—attributed or credited to China with in the last hundred years for it would be dull and lame. We should see a collective trajectory instead when the nation leaped with in the last four decades [300 million of its citizens came out of abject poverty, for instance] from a backwater to a power-nation to reckon with. The deal is–whom does the new century belong to? China or America? Again, we should listen to the experts on China.

Simon Kaleab

Selam Paulos,

I just checked a list of Fields Medal winners. S-S Chern is not there [could be because his age, over 40]. I can see only Shing-Tung Yau and Terence Tao. Out of a population of 1.4 billion!

There are more Jewish winners [inside or outside Israel], including Grigori Perleman [whose results the Chinese falsely claimed as theirs]. A population of less than 15 million!

Abi

Paul
Beautiful. You just slapped me left and right I’m hurting.
I never knew Chinese invent or spend money on RD. I’m sure you are not mixing RD with copying from others. I don’t mean that they have to invent every wheel again.
I got a joke for you. I think you deserve a good joke the above rebuttal.

An American company made a hair thin wire and showed it to a Japanese company and ask what they can do with it.
The Japanese guys drilled a hole through the wire to show their technological superiority.
They asked the Chinese what they can do with it?
The Chinese guys stamped “ Made in China “ on it.

Paulos

Abination,

Funny! Thanks for the laugh. What would the Forum do without you. Really! ንሩልን የኔ ወንድም!

Selam paulos,
China will lose only if their human nature has the upper hand over their officials, and their behavior at a certain point in the future changes for the worse. That is to say that as it grows more developed and powerful, it starts implementing a brute hegemonic policy towards others from today’s policy of equal partners and equal beneficiaries, to that of becoming the master exploiter.
China seems to be getting the upper hand in AIs. It is no more like the China of twenty years ago that was sniffing around to get some sort of technological information from the west.
Its insatiable appetite for raw materials, especially from Africa, will make it a reasonable partner with the countries of Africa. It may outsource some of its not so sophisticated industries to Africa in the future. Nevertheless, Africans should not put all their eggs in China’s basket, and they should not have blind trust. They should be ready to work with it as long as their interest is also served.
The policy of not allowing money for infrastructures to pass through the hands of african dictators, but invested directly by themselves in infrastructures that they are sure would pay back their money, is a clever way of investment. As much as western aid and borrowed money was concerned, the money was put in the dark hole of african and western corrupt officials, and africa was loaded with debt without seeing any of the infrastructures for which the money was borrowed in the first place

Paulos

Selam Horizon,

It is important to remember that China is not reaching out to Africa in particular to boost economic development in exchange for raw materials but something deeper than that—-shared history.

As we tried to highlight the other day the kind of humiliation China endured in the hands of Western Imperialists and later on Japan, China is telling the African people and leaders that, “I know your scars for I have them as well” when Africa went through similar humiliation particularly during the “Scramble for Africa” in the late 1800s. As such, China is trying to inject a common historical angle to its ambition for Africa where the leaders of the latter are generally receptive. Moreover, China is sending a message to Africa saying that, if we had shared the past in its dark aspect, we can share a bright future by working together in an equal partnership.

Simon Kaleab

Selam Paulos,

How about the 55 non-Han ethnic groups, such as the Tibetans, Uighurs and Mongols oppressed by China?

On a different note, the Japanese could have ruled China at will for a 1000 years if the Americans did not hammer Japan. They should be grateful.

Somebody wrote that
“No country has made as big an impact on the political, economic and social fabric of Africa as China has since the turn of the millennium
Foreign aid is a curse that has crippled and corrupted Africa—and that China offers a way out of the mess the West has made.
Between 1970 and 1998,, when aid flows to Africa were at their peak, poverty in Africa rose from 11 percent to a staggering 66 percent.”

This is the painful reality about Africa. This is what Africa got from the west.
On the contrary, by using soft power and by giving and not only taking, China is going to attract Asia and Africa in to its sphere of influence. With China, India and Russia (if the last could have its house in order, otherwise it will be left out), and other Asian countries, the center of the world is going to shift to the east. The fate of the west will be gradually to whither under the weight of its controversies (exploitive capitalism, white supremacists, right wings fascists and nazis, an aging population, especially in Europe, an economic policy that is condemned to fail, etc).
Empires come and empires fall, this time under its own weight.
Africa seems to be seeing the future from the right perspective. If China could help in Africa’s agricultural revolution, the continent will succeed. Many say so.

Paulos

Selam All,

Fierce war or battle between Bacteria and Viruses—ሰላሕታ ወራር!

The other day, we saw how Viruses were discovered where their nature remained elusive for it is neither a living thing in the strictest sense of the term. Nonetheless, it is an established fact that, Viruses are made of Nucleic Acids [DNA or RNA] and Proteins.

If we were to personalize a Bacteria and ask a battle hardened Bacteria [Let’s call it a Five-Star General], if Antibiotics were its sworn enemies, it would laugh it off for its fiercest and deadly enemy is a Virus instead. That said, It was in the early 1900s when the hidden war between the Bacteria and Viruses started to come to light.

In 1915, an English Physician named Frederick Twort stumbled upon the hidden world of the Viruses by accident. At that time, he was looking for an easier way to make Smallpox vaccines. In those years, the standard vaccine for the disease contained a mild relative of Smallpox called “Vaccinia.” But the challenge was that, new Vaccinia viruses could be collected only from hosts—either from immunized people or immunized animals. Twort wondered if it might be possible to grow Vaccinia much faster by infecting cells he grew on lab plates instead.

His first trial was not successful when Bacteria contaminated his plates and killed off all his cells he prepared in the plates. But as it happens in the annals of history—history of Science more often than not, serendipity was in the offing. When he was frustrated enough with his failure, he noticed something that caught his attention and peaked his curious mind as well. He noticed glassy spots developing in his plates. Under a microscope, Twort could see that the spots were full of dead microbes or Bacteria when he first actually thought that, the contaminating Bacteria killed all his cells instead. It was rather strange when he didn’t know what to make of the dead microbes.

He later collected tiny drops from the spots and transferred them to a living Bacterial colonies. Shortly there after, glassy spots formed in the new plates, full of more dead Bacteria. But if he added drops of the glassy spots to a different species of Bacteria, no spots were formed. It was a puzzle to say the least. What was killing the otherwise living Bacteria but unable to kill other species of Bacteria?

Twort could think of three explanations for what he had observed. It might be some bizarre feature of the life cycle of the Bacteria. Or perhaps the Bacteria were making some enzyme that was killing them. The third possibility was the most farfetched: He wondered if he had discovered a Virus that kills Bacteria. Twort later on published his preliminary findings including the three above mentioned possibilities but never assumed if the last possibility was the actual case.

Two years later, a Canadian born Physician named Felix Herelle independently made the same discovery. In 1917, Herelle was working as a military Physician, caring for French soldiers dying of Dysentery. Dysentery is caused by Bacteria known as “Shigella.” Shigella is normally treated with the use of Antibiotics but in those days, Antibiotics to treat Shigella had not been synthesized yet and it had to be made available decades later after World War I.

In order to have a better understanding of the the Shigella, Herelle examined the diarrhea produced by the sick soldiers. As part of his analysis, he passed the stool of the soldiers through fine filters, trapping Shigella and any other Bacteria they contained. Once Herelle had produced this clear, Bacteria-free fluid, he then mixed it with a fresh sample of Shigella-Bacteria and then spread the mixture of Bacteria and clear fluid in Petri-dishes.

The Shigella started to grow but with in few hours Herelle noticed clear spots starting to form in their colonies. Herelle drew samples from those spots and mixed them with Shigella again. More clear spots formed in the dishes. These spots, Herelle concluded were battlegrounds where Viruses were killing Shigella [Bacteria] and leaving behind their translucent corpses. Herelle believed his discovery was so radical that his Viruses deserved a name of their own. He named them “Bacteriophages”, meaning “Eaters of Bacteria.” Today, they are known as “Phages” for short. As they say though, only the dead see the end of war. The battle continues nonetheless!

It wasn’t until the 1940s that Scientists finally found the visual proof that Herelle was right. The invention of the electron microscope was powerful enough to see the minuscule Viruses. After the invention of the electron microscope, when Scientists mixed Bacteria–killing fluid with E.coli [A different strain of Bacteria], and put it under the electron microscope, they saw that Bacteria were attacked by Phages. The Phages had boxlike shells in which their genes [Nucleic Acids–DNA or RNA] were coiled, sitting atop what it looked like spider legs. The Phages dropped into the surface of E.coli Bacteria like a lunar lander on the Moon and then drilled into the microbe [Bacteria], invading their DNA.

Phages do not depend to a single species, and different Phage species behave differently toward their host. Herelle had found a lethal and vicious form called a Lyric-Phage for it kills its host as it multiplies pretty much like the HIV. There are other, Temperate Phages where they infect the Bacteria but instead of killing the host, they join their genes with the Bacteria’s DNA and the host continues to grow and divide and helps the Virus to multiply and grow as well. It is as if the Virus and the Bacteria become one. It is a whole mystery world where we are beginning to understand to say the least.

መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

ስራሕ ምሁር ከምዚ ‘ዩ ! Thank you for the lesson, Doterre!
Question:
1. If HIV kills its host, how is it multiplying then?
2. Can you give an example on what kind of virus acts as if Virus and the Bacteria become one?

Paulos

ኢንጂኔረ,

Thank you. Glad you like it.

Certainly, the Bacteria or the Viruses for that matter are not conscious about their existence but there is in-built Evolutionary force where the ultimate “purpose” is not only self-preservation but to pass on genes to the next generation where success is invariably measured. In this nasty battle for meager resources, mating partners [particularly in higher organisms] and other vital necessities of life, Virus strategizes to those ends as well.

As you know, HIV is an RNA virus and it is disadvantaged the fact that, it doesn’t have the vital gene or Nucleic Acid as in DNA in a bid to multiply itself. But Evolution has not denied it entirely where it is endowed with a unique enzyme called “Reverse Transcriptase” where the enzyme helps the HI-Virus to turn its RNA into DNA by using the host’s DNA template. Of interest the reason it is called “Reverse” is that, the central dogma of Molecular Biology is three fold: Replication, Transcription and Translation.

Replication is when the DNA double helix is unzipped so to speak and one single template is replicated into another DNA. Transcription is when the genetic information or code in the DNA is transcribed into RNA so that the transcribed RNA which is called “mRNA” or messenger-RNA is Translated into series of Amino-Acids or Proteins and hence Translation.

Here we can see that, DNA is transcribed into RNA but in the case of HIV, RNA is transcribed into DNA instead and hence the name of its enzyme “Reverse Transcriptase.” HIV not only kills its host but it uses all the genetic material of the host to multiply itself.

The other point is that, I am sure you have heard Clinicians talking about Antibiotic resistance which is literally a nightmare. One of the ways a microbe or a Bacteria develops a resistance to Antibiotics is through acquiring a Phage’s or a Viral genetic material where or when a Phage is incorporated into the Bacterial DNA. The Antibiotics essentially becomes useless for the Bacteria and the Phage become one in fending off a common enemy so to speak—Antibiotics.

መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

Thanks again, Doterre!
Interesting! I am not sure what the solution for #2, except praying perhaps, but on # 1:
Is there anything medical professionals, like you, can trick [to cutoff ]the process? Say to somehow distort the enzymes that helps convert from RNA to DNA? ከም ገለ ጌሩ ዘሽክዕ ማለተይ ‘ዩ 🙂

Paulos

ኢንጂኔረ,

True, Antibiotics-Resistance is really scary.

On HIV, that is precisely the reason the medications available are called “Cocktail” for the medications attack the Virus on different fronts–some of them block it from entering the human cell or T-Cell [the immune system], some of them stop it from multiplying when it tries to use the host’s DNA, for instance.

More over, one of the challenges of the HIV particularly a vaccine has become elusive is that, vaccine works like a key and lock where the key is the vaccine and the lock is the microbe. And what is so strange about HIV is that, it changes its shape frequently and became harder to make an exact key for it so to speak. But all in all, we have come a long way where HIV-AIDS is not a death sentence anymore. And thank God for that.

መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

Doterre,
Just curious, is there any detector within a cell by any chance? If there is, I was wondering if you can make a cell smarter. Detect if the coming item [which is virus in this case] is friend or an enemy? Depends on that, to accept or reject.
Since this virus is slick and changing its format, AI enabled cell would have been a perfect match for it.

Paulos

ኢንጂኔረ,

Well, the immune system is designed in such a way to recognize an enemy. The way they do that is that, they go through regoreous training literally till they are said to be fit for the job.

The immune system is generally divided into two main categories which are otherwise known as T-Cells and B-Cells. Those which are made in the Thymus Gland are called T-Cells—“T” for Thymus and those which are made in the Bones are called B-Cells—“B” for Bones.

In the Thymus including in the Spleen, the immune cells are tested again and again before they are let go to the blood stream or tissues in search of invaders. If they are extremely weak during training, they will be thrown out and if they are extremely strong during training, they get thrown out as well for they could attack the host’s own cells where it is the case with “Autoimmune Diseases” and some cases of severe Allergies as well. As such, those which get selected for the job are those who are not too weak or not too strong.

AI is certainly the future with mixed feelings to speak for it could be a Frankenstein in the making. God forbid.

መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

Thank you, Doterre!
Fascinating! I guess, in a way, they have detectors.
For the untrained brain, I would focus on those Extremely Strong and weaponizing them to smash the HIV 🙂

Nitricc

Hi all; sometimes I wonder; I just listened one of the stupidest interview ever. One Tigrayan political professor of Mekelle university; said coronavirus is a blessing in disguise. You got to watch it to believe me. The question is, this person is a political professor at the university, it means he has some students, what is he teaching them? Now, after you watch the interview then you will agree with me, Africa does not need a university. go a head see for your self.
wow!!!!

Hahah I cannot stop laughing. Eritreans are creative god belles you. Lol I can not post the link but I Eritreans using camels to spray around Asmara.
Hey moda; do I have your permission to share this amazing thing.

Trump wants to make the WHO his scapegoat for his failures, which are costing the USA so much? He says that the organization is China-centric, it relied on faulty data from China, and didn’t tell the truth about the severity of the disease. Among his supporters, Republican Senator Marco Rubio, whoever he maybe, had suggested the resignation of D-G Tedros Adhanom.

Trump’s old habits continue to live with him, the habit of lying, intrigues, betraying and exploiting others, etc, which must have been characteristic of his lifetime modus operandi.

The new conspiracy of the incompetent Trump and his group is to heap all the responsibility for what his failure has brought to the USA, i.e. the number of deaths due to the pandemic, the economy, and social life, on the Director General, who has come from a third world country that dared to stand against Trump’s attempt to sell Ethiopia to Egypt. It is a pity that the USA ended up with such a president with such a disingenuous personality.

He has threatened to freeze American funding to the WHO, at this time when everybody knows that the WHO is doing such a great job and it needs the money.

Paulos

Selam Horizon,

It is refreshing to see you standing up for Tedros knowing full that he is a product of the Weyanes you hate so much. Perhaps it is a national ethos on your part where you unite when one of you is under attack from with-out.

Woyane or non-woyane he is first and foremost an Ethiopian representing Ethiopia. He has done a magnificent job in the WHO, in my opinion. I can’t deny this fact. On top of this, he is being attacked unethically by the worst people.
My objection to tplf and what it has done is our internal problem, and it doesn’t mean that i have changed my opinion on that. Be sure, some people will accuse me in the future for being a tplf supporter for this. For them it is black or white, or a person is always a saint or always a devil. It is not so.

Kokhob Selam

Yes Horizon,

He is trying to cover his all crime as usual,,,we are all following.

.”Trump’s old habits continue to live with him, the habit of lying, intrigues, betraying and exploiting others, etc,”

Yes Horizons. You already know him.. I think he will not be chosen this time..

KS,,

Abi

Hello Horizon
I don’t believe any number that comes out of the Chinese government. How do you confirm the number of people who have been affected by this China virus . God only knows how many people died in China?
I believe that the Chinese government hid the actual number.
They misled the whole world first by hiding the epidemic, then even worse, by not providing the actual information regarding the numbers.
I’m not defending trump or any government official here.

If the USA, with the largest and the best intelligence organization in the world, didn’t know what was happening in China, then they should blame themselves and not China. Moreover, they have the Mossad and all the western intelligence services on their side.

They know how many teeth we have in our mouth, and yet they tell us that they didn’t know what exactly was happening in Chinese hospitals and towns, and they were hanging from the lips of president Xi, is simply an excuse to evade responsibility.

Although Trump and his group were seeing all the signs of an epidemic, and later on a pandemic, as it crossed over to other Asian countries and reached Europe, saying that they were still not aware of the danger shows how much they are trying to find excuses to absolve themselves from responsibility in these pre-election times. Attack on Dr. Tedros is part of the plan.

Unfortunately, Trump has done nothing, rather, he and his group are incompetent to do anything, and it showed in the most painful way for the American people with hundreds and even thousand(s) dying in a single day, in the most developed country of the world that could not provide enough masks and respirators.

Simon Kaleab

Selam Horizon,

Clearly, Tedros is unfit for the job.

As health minister in Ethiopia he covered up a Cholera epidemic. In his fake CV he claimed to have eradicated Malaria and HIV in a region in Ethiopia.

He was elected to the WHO with the support of the Chinese and the Africans. He is now parroting Chinese lies word for word.

The person who is really unfit for the job is the incumbent president of the USA, who is not only clueless, unfortunately, he makes decisions alone on things he has completely no idea.

The work of the head of the WHO is team-work, i believe, and decisions are not made by one single man, but by a group of specialists on the topic under his leadership. That he was backed by China was again said by Trump or one of his colleagues, if I remember well.

Concerning his CV, the USA could have easily blocked him if it felt that he was not for the post, especially if it believed that it was supported by China to do its bidding, and not now retrospectively as Trump is doing.

About covering a cholera epidemic, i have heard about it, but i know nothing more. For the time being, what matters most is what he does to combat the pandemic more than anything else.

Simon Kaleab

Selam Horizon,

China hid the outbreak of the virus for almost 2 months from the rest of the world. This, in the absence travel bans to and from China, allowed the virus to spread to the world silently, turning a local problem into a global problem. Did Tedros challenge China on this?

Early on, Tedros also claimed that there is no evidence of human to human transmission of the virus, repeating China’s lies. Is this professional?

no one

Hallo Horizon
may God bless you to give the right answer for thos Eritrian dictator propagandist. Theis person is elected not appointed himself like their dictators.

Kim Hanna

Selam Horizon,

I pretty much agree on all your points. However, I have chosen a slightly different perch to evaluate and suggest to moderate your accusations of Trump. I am not defending Trump. I can come out and tell you that Trump is not fit for the office, period. At the same time, I am also not saying everything he does is wrong. That is my opinion.

The American people made a choice and elected Trump. That is Democracy after all.
The American people decided to elect a different kind of leader. It is as if, they decided to elect a professional electrician, plumber or a smart construction worker to that position. They new the man. They did not want a Professor, a Lawyer or a Doctor………Democracy.

Therefor for you and me, anytime you listen to him specially without any TelePrompter, you are listening to that smart construction worker. I hope I am not sounding pompous about the professions. I gave up a couple of years ago listening with attention to Trump and watching what his lieutenants and executives are saying and doing in his name.
Hanging to his every word like the news media is doing is a waste of time and borders on self serving entertainment shows.
The other day, Trump said he is a “cheer leader” for USA, whatever that means. This real life Drama will continue until November 2020. I am here to tell you that the American people might do it again. It is Democracy. Democracy is the worst form of Government, except for all the others, someone said.

Mr. K.H

Abi

Hello Horizon
Countries leading the world should be more responsible in their actions. They don’t need to be monitored by other countries or spying agencies.
Comparing their illegal actions against Trump’s inaction, does not absolve them from being responsible for the crime they committed on the human race.

Nitricc

Abiy; so, why do you failed to hold responsible the Weyane- so-called doctor? He concealed the out break and loudly prized China. Old habits die hard, he thought he can conceal like he concealed the Ethiopian pit break, cholera. He brought the same corrupt mentality to the world stage. The USA is in his azz and he gone thankfully. The guy is guilty and has contributed to this world mess. Sometimes, you guys, Ethiopians call the spade is just that, spade. I am saying is because I read the corrupted Horizon has to say and you are silent to tell the truth. The truth is, the TPLF cultured goon has endangered the world

Abi

Hello General
You are absolutely right about Dr Teodros. I also believe that he is a culprit and a coverup for the irresponsible Chinese government.
The way he showered the Chinese with accolades and defended their irresponsible Chinese actions is not just corrupt but outrightly criminal.
This has nothing to do with him being a weyane. Not at all.

Berhe Y

Hi Abi,

I don’t know if he was involved in cover up with China but I doubt he has that much power. There are a lot of people in the organization and he is just the public figure / face of it.

But today his true Eritrean/Asmarino come out when he told them “I don’t give a damn”, that’s the eritrean way.

Proud of him.

Trump and his supporters want a scape goat and they found someone who can beat up. They should go after China and held them responsible, give them sanctions or what have you.

For example, a team of experts lead by a Canadian Dr. Bruce Aylward, went to China representing WHO, on Feb 8 to investigate. What ever speaking point Dr. Tedros was saying, it’s upon the recommendation of those experts.

Trump was bragging it Coronavirus is hoax, and he was tweeting, more Americans die from seasonal flu than Corona virus.

Berhe

Abi

Hawna Berhe
May be you haven’t seen him covering up the dirty deeds of the Chinese government. Have you ever seen him exposing their irresponsible actions? All you see him doing is showering the Chinese with accolades.

I didn’t know Asmarino guys speak like that. “I don’t give a damn” is neither diplomatic nor a mature way of communicating at the highest level. If you are proud of him, you are also proud of the way Isu Chisu communicate with his subjects.
Anyway, I don’t give a damn!

Haile S.

Berhe and Abi,

How do you say I don’t give a damn! In Tigrigna and Amharic?

Saleh Johar

HaileS
In Amharic it’s ምንኣባቱ!
In Tigringia it’s sexist, ባዕለዲኡ ይፍለጥ

Berhe Y

Hi Hailat,

Do you remember watching Zewdi Araya movie “Il signor Robinson”, I think it’s based on Robenson Cruso book in the 80s in Cinema Empero I think. She was making out with the guy who was stranded in the island and one of the native come looking for her and finds her out and asks her what she is doing and she tells him using Tigrina “እንታይ ተዲሹካ”.

So I think “I don’t give a damn” in Tigrina is “አይግድሰንን እዩ”.

Berhe

Hashela

Hi Berhe

“አይግድሰንን እዩ” ~ I don’t care

Berhe Y

Hi Hashela,

You are right, make sense. I think Saleh correct.

Berhe

Hashela

Selam Berhe

yes, Saleh is correct. But I disagree with him about the sexism.

ባዕልኻ ትፈልጥ
ባዕልኺ ትፈልጢ

Hashela

Hi Berhe

in this and other countless cases, Amanuel is very much missed.
I am taking his role by correcting and questioning everything, even AmHaric which is clearly not in the realm of my strength!

Haile S.

Selam brothers,

Try again. I have one or two in my mind that were not spelled. Try please!

Where is Abrehet? ኣብረሀት ዝርኣየ ዓይኑ ይብራህ!

መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

ፋዓራ ኣይገብረሉን

Haile S.

Selam Mehandis and all

Excellent! That is probably the right expression. It didn’t come to my mind before Mehandis brought it.

In Amharic Tedros’s proposition is right. We will wait what Debtera Abi says.

In Tigrigna I was thinking of two expressions, a softer one close to ፋዕራ, ዕጅብ ኣይብለንን’ዩ and a tougher one close to Saleh’s proposition እንዳ ጦርጦስ እቶ።

ጦርጦስ (Tartarus) though in the bible, it originally comes from Greek mythology. Simply put, Tartarus was the king of the hellish under-world which is known by the same name Tartarus where the condemned and the competitors for the throne were kept. It was believed to exist deep inside the earth.

Hashela

Hi Haile

“ዕጅብ ኣይብለንን’ዩ” is very good. But it is more closer to “it does not impress me”

Hashela

Hi Haile
you are pushing us to the limit of …. How about:
“ብጥራጡ ኣስሕቅን እየ”?

I don’t believe a single word that comes out of the notorious Chinese Communist Party.

According to reports coming from individuals inside China, the real tally for the dead is 10 times the official figure. There are stories of crematoriums in Wuhan breaking down due to overwork and old people, considered unable to recover, being tied up and put in body bags and burnt alive.

I don’t call this virus Corona virus.

Here’s my List of names:

Made in Chinese Virus,

Wuhan Flu,

Chairman Xi’s Revenge,

China’s Silk Road gift Pandemic,

Chinese Bat barbeque Flu,

China buy one get one free Virus,

Till death do us part, China productions.

Simon Kaleab

Selam all,

A vaccine, funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, designed to treat the disease caused by the coronavirus (COVID-19), has entered into the human stages of testing after the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved its application to begin trials under the classification of an Investigational New Drug program following promising results achieved during animal testing.

Inovio Pharmaceuticals, the developers behind the INO-4800 DNA vaccine, began injecting volunteers with their first dose on Monday; the second dose will be administered four weeks later. Inovio is expecting the initial data from the trial results by late summer.

It is great news. Australia had said so, and other countries as well, that seem to be on track to come up with a vaccine for prevention, or even drug treatment.

The BCG vaccine was recommended to see if it can work for Covid-19 as well. The test was to be carried out in Europe and Australia. Two prominent French doctors, nevertheless, said on TV a few days ago that the vaccine should be tested first on Africans, because they are the ones who are in greater need of vaccines more than others, and they don’t have the infrastructures and medical supplies necessary to fight the pandemic. One of them in particular said, “In prostitutes, we try things because we know that they are highly exposed and that they do not protect themselves.”

Of course, people were horrified and called it right out racism, to imagine Africans as guinea pigs.
Later on they tried to rationalize it unsuccessfully, by saying that Africa shouldn’t be left out.

Paulos

Selam Simon,

Many thanks for sharing the exciting news. That’s all we need right now. Only good and inspiring news. Please keep them coming. This too shall pass! God bless!

Abi

Paul
I’m more than worried about Ato Amanuel.
Any news?

Paulos

Abination,

Don’t have his contacts. I am sure he is busy at work. In any case, Semerile said the other day that, he will check on him. Hope he did.

Saleh Johar

Hello all,
I contacted Amanuel, he said he will contact me in due time.

Paulos

Selam Aya Saleh,

Glad he is well and thank you for reaching out.

Kokhob Selam

Dear Dr. Paulos.

Did I miss any post? What happened to our Brother Amanuel?

KS,,

Paulos

Selam Kokhobay,

No you didn’t miss anything. It is just we were concerned for he hasn’t been around for a while.

Kokhob Selam

Yes Dr. Paulos,

I wish, he will comeback today and give his very important post as usual..

KS,,

Abi

Kokobe
Yes, We missed Amanuel’s posts. Glad to know he is ok.

Kokhob Selam

Dear Abi,

Yes Abo,,That is nice..we should go like this..go back and read his past articles ..I am sure you will enjoy..

KS,,

Abi

Kokobe
“አሁንስ ጭቅጭቁም ሊናፍቀኝ ከጀለ” አለች አሉ ሴትዮዋ
I’m hoping he will come back with better articles in the future. How about that for optimism?

Kokhob Selam

Wow Abi,

Nice, and that is good idea..

Aman, During your absent me and Abi agree..

KS,,

Abi

Kokobe
You and I agree to read the articles. We haven’t agreed to agree on the articles. Agreed?
At this point all I can say is
“አባ በመጡና አፈር በበሉ” አለች ይላሉ ባሏ ዘመቻ የሄደባት ሚስት::

Abi

Paul
I disagree with Ato Amanuel almost always. As you said, at the end of the day, we should be able to care for each other.

Abi

Paul
Do you know the expression የቁራ መልዕክተኛ? That is Semere.

Paulos

Abination,

No I don’t. What does it mean?

Abi

Paul
It is based on the Book of Genesis 8
ዘፍጥረት: ምዕራፍ 8 Where Noah sent a raven to check if the water subsided. The raven didn’t come back. ( በጥፋት ውሃ ዘመን)
የቁራ መልዕክተኛ የተላከበትን ጉዳይ የማይፈፅም ማለት እዩ:: እንደ ሠመረ አይነት

Selam Abi,
You remember that there are two types of ravens in Ethiopia, the one all black and the other with a white spot on the back of its head. As children we used to say that the white spot was due to a slap from Noah for delaying its return with a small piece from a branch of tree as ordered, so that Noah will know if the flood had subsided.

Abi

Hello Horizon
You are right we have two kinds of ravens. We never liked them because we thought they bring bad luck.
Do you know they are the smartest birds. They are too smart and pure they definitely qualify for citizenship requirements in the future NewDawn kingdom.

Paulos

Abination,

Aha! I did not know that. Thanks for the smart lesson.

Teodros Alem

abi
Topical n shawa culture.

Simon Kaleab

A team of Israeli researchers says that they are days away from completing the production of the active component of a coronavirus vaccine that could be tested on humans as early as June 1.

“We are in the final stages and within a few days we will hold the proteins – the active component of the vaccine,” Dr. Chen Katz, group leader of MIGAL’s biotechnology group, told The Jerusalem Post.

In late February, MIGAL (The Galilee Research Institute) committed to completing production of its vaccine within three weeks and having it on the market in 90 days. Katz said they were slightly delayed because it took longer than expected to receive the genetic construct that they ordered from China due to the airways being closed and it having to be rerouted.

There is this article on the bbc similar to what you told us about the Covid-19 virus last time. Its structure (its outer oily coat or lipid bilayer) may play a role in the possible susceptibility of the virus to heat and hot weather, depending on the existing knowledge from other enveloped viruses.
In relations to this, could it be that Tropical Africa may have the chance to escape major CORONAVIRUS pandemic and deaths, as it seems to be for the time being?, was the point. Unfortunately, there are other scientists who say that this might not be the case. Simply, the pandemic has not reached the continent yet in full force. It seems that it has an itinerary of its own – from Asia to Europe and then America. If it will jump over to Africa (God forbid) we will see.
This lipid bilayer (the oily cost) makes it susceptible to heat, while in cold dry weather as in the northern hemisphere it becomes harder and protects the virus giving it longer life as opposed to what could happen in tropical Africa, where the oily coating could melt and the virus is exposed and inactivated. This is a knowledge derived from other enveloped viruses, yet to be proved for the CORONAVIRUS. The virus lives for about 72 hours at about 22C on hard surface outside the body when coughed out. In higher temperatures as in Africa, its life span is expected to be shorter. Thus, Africa might be spared, God willing, the virus could be seasonal and endemic.
As i said above, it is not shared by others. Therefore, time will tell, and we have to wait.

On another thread, i saw a clip in which the Mufti spoke to Christian fathers and politicians in Addis about the times, man’s sins and the wrath of Allah. This is the silver lining of this crisis that brings even nearer Muslim and Christian fathers. They were standing there as the Mufti explained how human beings, especially the west were not true to Allah, how their heart went far from Him, and He is punishing his people. Nevertheless, the wrath of God will pass as it had passed so many times in the past. Of course, I am paraphrasing him.

Paulos

Selam Horizon,

I remember, the first time that I heard about Corona virus was in Medical School where we were taught that, it was a family of the Severe Acute Respiratory [SARS] causing viruses.

Here as we can see, what makes it more serious than say, the common cold or Rhino virus is that, it is not limited to the Upper Respiratory System only but it goes to the lungs where it becomes Pneumonic. That said however, the practical question we need to ask is that, why do Rhino viruses including the family of Corona proliferate in colder weather—as in why do we get Flu in the winter time instead? Precisely because, the viruses have a protective shield that can help them strive and survive in colder weather. And the opposite—at least theoretically can be true in hot weather or places. That still is a conjecture, however.

Selam All,
Is it possible? Is it fake news? Rumors say that the Eritrean government has refused to accept medical supplies to fight the coronavirus that was donated by the Chinese billionaire and distributed by the Ethiopian PM.

Nitricc

It is true; Eritreans in the diaspora reside almost three million dollars; who wants a charity from China? You need it more than Eritrea does , so keep it. The idea is no matter what, Eritrea by Eritreans.self-reliance is the order of the day in Eritrea.

Nitricc, there is no stone you don’t turn nor any excuses you wouldn’t give to support the dictator and rationalize his irrational actions. You brought again the self-reliance myth that has not brought an iota of change to Eritrea, nor has improved the lives of Eritreans.
You seem a person devoid of empathy and compassion for people. It is not the first time that you show such a feeling. Remember Lampedusa. You don’t seem to care if Eritreans die in their thousands from the Covid-10 virus, although you tell us you are proud of them. Let alone poor Eritrea, even the USA, and European countries are accepting help, because they care for their people.
Yes, Ethiopia needs help, because the Ethiopian government cares much more for its people than the regime you support. What is a country without its people for you?
Last time you said that you have no problem if politicians and some other people remain behind bars and they end up victims of coronavirus. You can’t be more Eritrean than others this way as you try to show.

Nitricc

Dude; what I was trying to was, you guys are addicted to Aid and begging, so Eritrea did you a fever by telling no thanks and keep your stuff to yourself. I think you are the worst one, you supported the The TPLF thugs for the last twenty something years, now after the tplf goons disposed to Mekelle. You have no credibility nor charter. When the Oromo and Amara was dying in the hands of the ignorant Tigryans you said nothing you are corrupted and fake. You have no morals to talk about anything. You are fake and useless. The truth.

Nitricc,
You know that you are lying. You have learnt your lesson very well. You never admit the fault or wrongdoing of the dictator you serve, as Goebbels was doing.

Teodros Alem

Ahelen horizon
I think T kefele has to fire u from ur dog job, u don’t know what u talking about and u don’t know what being consistent and credible means, u become useless Adgi, i think T kefele has to find another like u from “merabete” or from “debre herpa” and fire u. u r a total nonsense.

Kokhob Selam

Dear my Brother Horizon,

Yes it is possible..I am the within witness… We Eritreans are suffering by this tiny group… I am sorry to say that this Mafia group of small group has turned us to unknown journey..It is impossible, for you Ethiopians to go for peace with this collection of Devil..

You can tray peace with Eritreans, I am sure you will successes but not with this tiny collection..just ask your self, Why Eritreans don’t have constitutions to fallow ..this one question itself if enough.. Please, fallow me in our Jebena page ..Don’t give up ..

KS,,

Desbele

Hi Horizon,
Yes, the Eritrean regime has rejected Covid medical supplies assistance from China.
The same regime that happily received 52000 sick Australian sheeps back in 2003.
The sheeps were sick with scubby mouth disease and Saudi and other middle eastern countries rejected them. 5000 of the sheeps had died by the time the shameless self-delusioned Eritrean regime agreed to take them.
It is orwellian world for the likes of Nitricc, War is peace, Ignorance is strength and self-delusion is self reliance.

dear awtistas,
we all wish all our prisoners to be safe and healthy from corona pandemic..and is timely to agitate for their release,,,,,but at the same time we also have to donate what ever we can
through any channel we know or have.
how about raising money through the awate website and send the money collected to eritreans whether at home or in any other places like sudan.

Haile S.

Selam Sara,

Every time the flood comes, we developed the reflex to fund raise. It is normal in a normal country and you are right to think about that. However, the best solution is to pave a proper way for the flood to pass without damage by preventing it from taking everything that is left on its way due to absence of ingenuity, preparedness and long vision. The Eritrean people have been fund raising for decades to their regime that doesn’t want and never raises justice, law, constitutionality and humility in governance.
The imprisonment of Ciham for years is the insignia of lawlessness and badge of dishonor of Eritrea. By releasing Ciham and the other prisoners, the only thing the regime is going to loose is a little of its grip. It has a lot that it could potentially gain if it walks in that right direction. But it seems with this regime we are heading to the abyss with its slogan with our teeth and nail (bxfrna).

SIRAJ ABDURAHMAN

I was reading an article titled “How Long Should Social Distancing Last? the article was in regards to fighting the COVID-19 pandemic. Interestingly, many people have started to stress-out staying at home for few weeks. While I was reading the article, I remembered those gallant Eritrean heroes who are jailed without a trace. The question we all, Eritreans, have to ask is how long are they going to stay in prison? I hope they are still alive. Nowadays, the world is advised to practice social distancing and many have the choice to self-quarantine to avoid the growing risk of COVID-19. Unfortunately, those Eritrean, brothers and sisters, who are in Eritrean prison cells had NO CHOICE to socially distant from their families and to be quarantined from their people. It is sad that the real heroes who gave us an independent nation has been in prison cells for almost twenty years. I wonder how are they coping in such an inhumane situation. The stress of prison life, coupled with a lack of access to quality medical care, means that their health deteriorate faster and age faster than they would in the free world. The hope of their release seems impossible and the idea of coming down with coronavirus in prison is even worse. As we all know, the health experts are telling us that it is expected that the lack of interaction and isolation could impact one’s mental health as many people across the world experience social distancing and self-quarantine. I can’t imagine what the mental status has been for those, brave Eritreans, in prison. I can only pray that God keeps them sane.

Paulos

Selam Siraj,

You said, “…..The hope of their release seems impossible and the idea of coming down with Corona virus in prison is even worse….” Really? Don’t you think that is too gloomy and negative? What we need right now particularly the loved ones of those who are in an unfortunate situation is inspiration, hope and optimism. Let’s give them that. The Sun will always rise for its own sake!

SIRAJ ABDURAHMAN

Selam Paulos – I think you misunderstood my point. Yes, there is always hope and optimism; however, in this situation though it has taken so long life in prison system without any due process. We don’t even know if everyone of the prisoners are still alive. I don’t mean to sound negative but I hope to see the release of our heroes asap and join with their families.

Nitricc

Ciham; I am very sorry. It is one thing to jail politicians and trouble makers to the government but how do you explain, holding young people with no fault of their own? This is crazy. PIA, you are setting very dangerous trend. As a man of your stature and your standing, you have done good and not so good things but no one will hold your children responsible for your shortcomings, so please let Ciham set free. She has nothing to do for what her father whatever he did. It doesn’t even make sense. PIA, she is just a young innocent person. Sometimes I don’t understand how your system works. Let the young lady free, it is the right thing to do.

Saleh Johar

Hi Nitricc,PIA, you are setting very dangerous trend.

He is setting a dangerous trend? It’s not new and you can’t talk about starting. This has been his character all since day one.

Nitricc

Hey SJ; I am just wondering what Ali Abdu had done. I mean Ali Abdu is not the first person to abandon the regime but why is PIA resorted to such cruel and inhuman revenge. I don’t know but it got to be something. What ever it is no child should pay for whatever their parents do or did. That is very wrong!

Simon Kaleab

Nitricc,

Everyone, including “politicians and trouble makers”, deserves their day in an independent court. But, now in Eritrea, it wont happen.

iSem

Hi Simon:
Nitricc wants to have it both ways, But I always chuckle when the so called opposition yell bring the prisoners to courts. Which court? which rule of law.
Ciahm’s plight is so unfortunate and sad, but as her uncle Sal humbly, and correctly says, what happened to her and hus family is not unique
But I also think that Ciham’s disappearance symbolizes the failures of the revolution in general and the EPLF fighters in particular. The fighters, those who brag to us that they liberated us.They did not, they did not liberate us, they enslaved us. They did not even liberate themselves, they did not even liberate even their children
To me this sad story is a reminder that the fighters failed miserably, collectively

Simon Kaleab

Selam Semere A.,

“La Revolucion is like a great love affair. In the beginning, she is a goddess. A holy cause. But — every love affair has a terrible enemy: time. We see her as she is. La Revolucion is not a goddess but a wh-re. She was never pure, never saintly, never perfect. And we run away, find another lover, another cause. Quick, sordid affairs. Lust, but no love. Passion, but no compassion. Without love, without a cause, we are — nothing. We stay because we believe. We leave because we are disillusioned. We come back because we are lost. We die because we are committed.”

“The revolution? When the shooting stops, and the dead are buried, and the politicians take over, it all adds up to one thing: a lost cause.”

From ‘The Professionals’, a 1966 movie.

Nitricc

Hi Simon; every country has to go though misery and Eritrea is no different. Believe me, once Eritrea is out of this mess, she will be the best country in Africa by far. What I don’t get is bushing the fighters; you all run away to fattened your azzs and now criticizing the fighters. Pleased have some decency and shut the F up.

Simon Kaleab

Nitricc,

Go back to sleep, this issue is way above your pay grade.

iSem

Nitricc:
PIA (AKA, DIA) has no stature. Whatever fictitious stature he had, whatever accolades you guys bestowed and showered upon this nobody dude he has squandered and one thing is for sure, if Eritrea survives him you will be so disappointed because no monument will be built that you will pay homage to. His name will forever be linked and lumped to torture, killing and he will be in pantheons of Saddam and his friend Gaddafi, who like IA lived like a dog and died like a dog in side a sewer. What a fitting death, Gadaffi was pulled out of a sewage and so will IA

NewDawn

Selam isem, the key difference been, Gaddafi achieved alot more and his death brought Libya down. Isaias is brutal with no achievements and I’m sure Eritrea can only go up from his departure.

Theoretically you are right, but practically…? It is difficult to say that IA rules alone. A small clique of people around him who participate in the dictatorial government, otherwise his accomplices who are equally responsible for the crimes against the Eritrean people, and his supporters and his enablers in general, are those who have made one single man omnipotent.
The difference between IA and Ghadafi is that the latter had a strong opposition from within the country, while IA seems to have none. DIA’s opponents have shown little sign of decent either by running away, or carrying out an ineffective revolt that was condemned to fail, but not with continued and strong clandestine opposition from within.
Unfortunately, in Libya the opposition was later divided on sectarian grounds, which is exploited by regional governments like Egypt, UAE, Turkey and world powers, the West and Russia, which complicated the situation.
My point is, how would the ruling clique react after DIA’s death, as long as they are accomplices in every crime committed in Eritrea the last three decades, and they know that they will be charged for their crimes? They may fight to keep the status quo to save their own skin.
Therefore, unless some patriotic and strong military man, who believes at least in semi-democracy in post-IA Eritrea comes to the scene, the chances are the old guards may fight to remain in power for their own sake, more or less continuing the dictatorship.
Unfortunately, the opposition doesn’t seem to have worked for the day when such a strong personality comes from the military. Change-seekers may not succeed unless they have the majority on their side, which is not impossible having in mind that most of the military and their families are on the receiving end of injustice.
Moreover, a peace agreement with Ethiopia exists. Some opposition groups used to say that the no-war-no-peace situation was their Achilles heel, because Ethiopia may exploit the situation. The present government of Ethiopia knows very well that it made peace with the people of Eritrea rather than with one man, and it will never save DIA from his own people. Ethiopia wants a free and democratic Eritrea on its northern border.
Although the change-seekers should have worked for this from day one, it is never too late to have some men in the military on their side. In my opinion, it is a must.

Saleh Johar

Hi Horizon,

You wrote, “ The present government of Ethiopia knows very well that it made peace with the people of Eritrea rather than with one man, ”

How cruel can you be ! Is there any peace your government made with Eritreans? Really! At least don’t insult our intelligence of this one, your pm made peace with our dictator. Pls do not make it sound as if Eritreans have elected the dictator.

When you and others accept that Ethiopians and Eritreans should start living in the present and for the future, and not remain stuck in their past history, maybe, there will be some hope for both people, unless one is hell bent against anything whatsoever between the two. Germans and the french have learnt to live in peace looking towards the future, and many others as well.
Behind every government there are the country and the people. These are always in the equation. Whoever thinks that if IA goes the peace agreement will go with him from the Ethiopian side, he is making a big mistake, unless the peace means nothing to them.
Please, take it i am not trying to teach anybody anything, nor do i have the wish to insult anybody’s intelligence. Simply putting my opinion, whether one likes it or not.

Saleh Johar

Hi Horizon,
Whe it cone to peaceful coexistence you are not qualified to lecture me. My views and struggle is all out there . I was not introduced to the principle three years ago. So, please stop your patronizing posture.

As for history, it’s there and flossing over it is dishonest and doesn’t help the future. Covering up what discomforts a few is a recipe for the repeat of the past and I do not wish to see the ugliness repeated. But let bygones be bygones is not always honestly said, it is meant to trivialize the core problem.

What is the core problem, you could ask?

Arrogance! Bigotry! Blood-thirst, hegemonic zeal, chauvinism. Bigotry. All theses and more are the ills, call back when you solve them or at least acknowledge them. But lease, don’t tell me they never existed and do not exist now. I don’t know about you but I see it all the time, in many places.

Selam SJG,
I have nothing to lecture anybody. On the contrary, i have a lot to learn. Nevertheless, nothing is a taboo. It doesn’t mean one shouldn’t touch certain topics at all.
There are two choices for Ethiopia and Eritrea (i am not lecturing anybody, simply putting my opinion, again), the way of peace or the way of animosity. Those who want peace let them speak about peace and those who want to dwell in the past, let them do so. It is as simple as that. When both are satisfied they may approach each other at the center in the future or never. Let it be so. No problem with that.

Saleh Johar

Hi Horizon,
If you didn’t type that comment I will understand. But the following is your comment, and it’s lecturing and condescending. This is a reminder of what you told me: “When you and others accept that Ethiopians and Eritreans should start living in the present and for the future, and not remain stuck in their past history.” And if you do not consider that an insult, then… I don’t want to say any more…

You see, in your comment, you depicted me as anti-peace, and grouped me with people who do not accept that we should not live ion peace, while you promoted yourself as a saintly Yogi. And I am challenging you to show your records on promoting the peace in question adn compare it against mine–show me what you paid for your views on peace, and I will show you mine. Please! I do not raise the issue of peace as a pass time, I believe in it and invested in it heavily. So, save me the patronizing attitude.

While at it, prove to how is Abiy’s agreement with a dictator considered a peace agreement between Ethiopia and Eritreans and a political ploy–if you avoid contradicting yourself, I believe the way you described Isaias (during the last few days), you do not believe one of your statements. Either 1) Isaias is anti-peace and doesn’t represent Eritreans, and that your showman PM’s gestures are not worth the UAE and Saudi papers on which he signed, or, 2) Isaias is a man of peace and he represents Eritreas and the agreement he reached with Abiy is accepted (at least morally, if not politically or legally.) by those you claim your country made peace with. Make up your mind dear Horizon and please don’t let the clownish leaders define our relations as people.

Kim Hanna

Selam Horizon,

SJG’s response to you comes from the emotional revulsion of the statement that equated PIA to Eritrean people. He could’t go past it. With that puritanical scale most national agreements fail for the vast majority of nations.

Some of us believe there was no problem between the people of Ethiopia and Eritrea, ever.
The folks who believe otherwise on both sides come to their positions from their hyper political activism. Some use 2020 terms to argue events of the 1920s. They mix and distill to fit their current goals and agenda.

Our pain originates from our dictators who use any emotional weakness to their ends.
Looking at our most recent dictators, PIA and Mengistu, you can see the level of cruelty they are capable of to stay in power. They both get rid off potential threats. Some times not even a clear threat but perceived threats. That comes primarily from being afraid too much. PIA takes the cruelty a step or two further. He not only wants to eliminate the threat but wants to inflict the maximum pain on those his arm could not reach, using children and wives.
The definition of “EVIL”.

Some of these ruthless dictators seem invincible. They cultivate a persona and a powerful facade. Their foot soldiers were AND are busy doing it. They (dictators) all attempt to blur the line of themselves and their people to a varying degree of success.
However, as we have seen time and again, a little chip in the armor and it all crumbles down like the house of cards.

Selam Kim Hana,
I don’t think that i equated DIA with the people of Eritrea. Never did from what i know. Nevertheless, I know that certain things i say can not be to the liking of everybody.

NewDawn

Selam horizon, I agree with your points. Eritrea needs a right wing political party, that has little interest outside of Eritrea. They need widespread reforms in education, economy, public sector etc.. In particular education as I consider it very important for economic growth, English should be the primary language. As for those in the ruling clique, they will be purged completely as they may be obstructive for future progress. They will be tried in a court of law and sent to prison. Can you elaborate on why you think eritrean opposition hasn’t worked for a day when a strong personality comes from the military and how they can work to prepare for this eventuality?

That the Eritrean opposition seems to have not worked for a strong personality coming from the military is due to the fact that , right or wrong, i don’t see another way how power will come to the people under dictatorship, unless a strong man comes out of the military, and this strong man is ready to hand over power to the people, and also the impression one has about the opposition, again right or wrong. This requires infiltration of the military by the opposition and recruiting especially young officers who aspire for change. If it had been so, over the last three decades somebody may have come forward. It is only my logical conclusion. Nevertheless, everybody is running away from the scene, while they should have remained behind to bring change. This may make things difficult, I don’t know.

In Sudan the people revolted and the military followed the people. In Eritrea’s case this might not be possible, because the people are out of the country, at least those who could have brought the change, and therefore, it is up to the military that is a well organized force to bring change. Now, if there is something we don’t know about the opposition working from within the country, and if it does exist, so much the better. But, from what we can understand this doesn’t seem to be the case. I wish it was. At the end, the whole thing seems to lie on the military.

Even to avert the old guards from telling the Eritrean people that “the king has died, long live the new king, and things will remain the same”, or to bring the culprits to the court of law, the opposition should work with the military for the day when power will be in the hands of the people, which is possible, because it is the only way available.

Two things i have not understood from your comment are: Eritrea needs a right wing political party and English should be the primary language. A right wing political party ruling a country is reminiscent of dictatorship. Are you not worried about that? If by saying that English should be the primary language, you mean the only or common spoken language by the people of Eritrea, i hope you have followed the last discussions to see how much Eritreans are divided on the topic of language.

Berhe Y

Hi Horizon,

All I can say is, there isn’t a formula or a result that Eritreans, be it in opposition outside the country or those inside the country have worked out and agree or disagreed with.

For example, Saleh J. in many occasions in his YouTube channel had advised the Eritrean strongmen Millitary and some even retelling their heroic past reminding them to do wats necessary to safe their people and their country. Saay on many occasions, said, Eritrea problems is 1 breath away. He said, 80% of Eritrea problems will go away, once we get rid of Isayas.

In short, there is no conflict, disagreement or approach for the most part, but we have brutal and very determined enemy that our efforts has not been fully achieved as yet. We happily accept any change that comes with what ever form, as long as it’s done by our own people for our own benefit.

As far as Ethiopia and our relationship, I can say with confidence, 99% of Eritreans do not care much. We just want a peaceful relationship like our neighbours in Sudan. We don’t bother them, they don’t bother us. We travel freely, we trade, and build relationship based on our mutual benefits.

Selam horizon, I ought to be more clear. Within regards to language, it was within the dimension of education. English is an incredibly rich language. It’s easy to learn, it’s the business and finance language. Simply put it’s the world most powerful language. We cant afford to be limited in this technological age, you will never learn quantum physics in tigrinya. My grasp of political terminology is poor, it would have been more correct to say
my political ideology leans slightly to the right or is conservative.Eritrean citizenship requirements shall be changed so that a person needs two eritrean parents To acquire citizenship , even then one is to go through rigorous testing to see what they offer to eritrea. For top government positions eritreans need 3 full generations of ancestry in eritrea. within the eritrean opposition I have ran across a few eritreans that promote western ideals that simply are not compatible with eritrean society and will hinder our progress. I believe if we conserve our society and put forward good politic, economic, educational etc we will make rapid strides in development.

You have brought very interesting points. The requirement of two Eritrean parents, and even then, depending on the person’s merits, to acquire Eritrean citizenship, points to a sort of ethnic purity reminiscent of the recent history of what happened in Germany, where the Nazis aspired for a pure Aryan race. I apologize in advance if i am making a mistake here.

If for top government positions Eritreans need 3 full generations of ancestors in Eritrea, it means that Eritreans who have left Eritrea automatically lose their citizenship, and even if they return back to Eritrea provided that they can prove that there parents are (were) Eritreans, three generations should pass before their descendants become true Eritreans. Do you believe that this is practical?

Western ideals and ideologies have no place in the future Eritrea. If the Eritrean society is conservative and isolated, according to your opinion, it is the best solution for Eritrea. The questions that arise are, such as, how does what you say differ from what white supremacists say, for example, creating white states in the USA, those who propagate the ideology of White Christian Europe, Israel is a Jewish state, etc.?

Who is an Eritrean after all? Does your ideology have religious extensions to it, or not? By the way, does the name NewDawn depict your ideology?

Abi

Hello Horizon
Now I know why Eritreans call themselves UNIQUE!!
Henry Kissinger, Madeline Albright, Barack Obama, and other millions of people who served their countries at the highest level will find it impossible to serve in Eritrea.
I hope Eritrea remains pure!!!!!!!

I respect the gentleman’s world view, honesty and civility. Only that I thought that his vision for Eritrea was somewhat extreme for a third world country with diverse ethnic groups, a country where a large part of its population lives outside Eritrea, and a country cannot isolate itself in this intertwined world of today. Moreover, where genealogical records are not kept, and they are transferred orally from generation to generation, ancestors are sometimes difficult to prove.
To speak of ethnic purity a country must be inhabited by a single ethnic group, in my opinion. One has to find the answer first as to who is an Eritrean? If we accept that all Eritrean ethnic groups are Eritreans by definition, and as long as these people have cross border relatives, almost all of them, how could it be possible to implement the criteria, because it is not a closed nation like, for example, japan? NewDawn may make his point more clear for us.

Hashela

Hi Horizon

I can’t find the paragraph where NewDawn mentioned ethnic purity.
Is it possible that you are confusing a strict citizenship law with a “ethnic purity law” that nobody has in mind?

Regarding the ancestry record, it seems you are unfamiliar with our century-old customary laws of marriage and land ownership.

Abi

Hello Horizon
I don’t just stop at respecting his ideas. I fully support him in all his efforts to create Eritrea with a pure and genius race that is superior than the rest of the world.
Pure and simple!!!

Hashela

Selam Horizon, Abi

It is interesting that to see the expansionistic Ethiopians react promptly and aggressively to the citizenship idea of ጽባሕ.

As a relatively small nation with a neighboring country that is aggressive, demographically exploding, and openly harboring an expansionist ideology, Eritrea is well advised to protect itself from a demographic war.
It is not without a reason that globally small nations have a relatively restrictive immigration and citizenship laws

Abi

Hello Hashela + Haile S
What’s up
I support your purity principles. You can kick out every individual that can’t count his ancestors in Eritrea starting today. You can even ban those Eritreans who happened to have a gene from a different nationality from entering your heavenly kingdom starting today.
It is a must you build a 100 meter tall wall to keep your pure blood intact. You can even make it illegal to marry an inferior race.
It is all your choices. No body has a right to interfere in your affairs.
It is all good.

Haile S.

Selam Abi,

ወይ ነገር ፍለጋ! ወዴት ጠጋ ጠጋ?
I am not for social-group purity (speaking Emma’s language). Ethnic purity is NOT building strength, but accumulating weaknesses.
ኤርትራዊት ያገባችው፡ ኤርትራዊ ነው። I bestow upon you the Eritrean citizenship by merit!

Abi

ጋሽዬ
የቀንየለይ ::
ጌታዬ ጠጋ ጠጋማ አላዋጣም:: እራቅ እራቁን እንሞክረው እንጂ::

Nitricc

Hey, reading your above post, you don’t sound the proud Ras Abiy from Gonder, Ethiopia. You sounded the typical confused and inferior a person from Tigray. Lol, Eritrea have no choice but to tighten who is who. Look how Eritrea suffered and nearly collapsed as a nation, why do you thing the reason is? Come-on man and you are right give Eritrea a few years and sit and watch.

Abi

Hello General
I don’t know why Eritrea nearly collapsed and suffering as a nation? Are you saying it is because a person from the inferior race is at the top of the helm?
Thing is nobody is filling an application to become an Eritrean citizen. All I see is everyone running away from it . Even those brave Eritreans who never stop bragging day and night are refusing to visit the country.

Nitricc

Hey Ras: Abiy; you know what I am talking about. Once Eritreans were told that no rest till the spinal cord is broken once and for all. Often Eritreans accused for superiority. When you sounded like them, that way I interjected. Regarding the application, if your people can venture to Yemen, wait and see how they will flack to Eritrea in doves. I know you will disagree with me but Eritrea is set to take of. The price has paid and the benefits to be harnessed. Number one requirement for African nation to the next step is freeing yourself from the Addiction of Aid and the influence of the west and Eritrea has achieved that tough and pricey process. You don’t need to that far, look at your own country, 100 million people nation is administered by American Embassy from Entoto. You get the idea. The only African nation that her flag high and free is the Eritreans. Eritrea is the only nation to kick out USAID, Eritrea is the only country to say no for free Stadium by FIFA, the list goes on, why, because building nation is not building high rise building but building the mindset of the masses.

Abi

Hello General
I like you in your military fatigue doing your unmatched ዘራፍ! ዘራፍ!
I agree building the mindset of the masses has no substitute in nation building.
My question is where are the masses? They are not in Eritrea.

Nitricc

Abiy; don’t you worry about it, Eritreans didn’t destroy the best Armies in black Africa within 72 hours by saying Zeraf-zeraf; Eritreans leave that for you guys. What is even interesting is, in the culture of Zeraf, you can’t even defeat Al-shebab, few armed men with a pick-up truck. That is embarrassing. Although, that was the dead body of Weyane army but still the Zeraf nation. One day will come to admire the great Eritreanism. I suspect you know on the first hand. I am still embarrassed for you country. You have the US backing with 100 million country but still can’t beat Al-shebab. Wow you talk about nothing but zeraf society.

The law is required, what ever law that happen Eritreans to agree with. Aren’t you the one accusing Eritreans “ኢትዮጵያ የሁላችን፡ ኤርትራ የጋራችን” and you have no qualms about it.

The law is required because Eritrea has so many, wannabe Ethiopians who their body is in Eritrea but their spirit and heartbeat is in Ethiopia.

But if it was up to me, I would institute this law. Every next Eritrean president / prime minister for the next 50 or 100 years, must be a Muslim.

Based on my limited research, 99.99 % an Eritrean Muslim from where ever ethnic group, from where ever region his or her loyalty is to Eritrean Eritrean people, Eritrea the country. You will never find, agazian, tigray-tigrini, habesha this, habesha that, abay Ethiopia, abay tigray, or anything of that sort…

Please prove me wrong:).

Berhe

Abi

Hawna Berhe
You never Wrong!!
I agree with you in whatever decisions you make.
A Muslim President—Agreed
A Sharia Law — Agreed
Arabic National Language— Agreed
Pure Race —Agreed
Democratic Government— Agreed
Kingdom— Agreed
Sawa— Agreed
Military Service for 20 years— Agreed
Unity with Sudan— Agreed
Unity with Yemen — Agreed

Unity with Ethiopia — አንታ ጠጠው በል!!!

Berhe Y

Hi Abi,

Glad we are on the same page:).

Berhe

Hashela

Hi Abi
thank you for awaking my Amharic from its deep and multi-dedacal dormancy. If it were not loaded with greed, violence, and Schadenfreude, I would have more joy refrehing my Amharic, a soft and beautiful language.

The western Red Sea litoral is firmly in the hands of its rightful owner and will remain so for a extremely long time (~1.8-2.2 million years) until a tectonic force comes to your rescue and brings the smell of seawater to your Afar region.

Abi

Hello Hashela
First thing first. Learn to firmly hold on to your children before you aspire to higher duties like protecting a vast sea. You are not remotely protecting it from Stuttgart or Berlin or…Toronto, London…
Second, you have to recruit only those Eritreans who can bring evidence beyond a reasonable doubt, that they are at least third generation, pure blood Eritreans to protect and defend the sea. Those mixed with the inferior race are not trustworthy enough to be assigned to this kind of higher calling.

Guilty trapping doesn’t work with me. Talking about me relishing on your suffering is utter nonsense. I didn’t cause any pain on you.

Nitricc

No, Semere; every one who ventured to answer the call of the mother land has earned his-her stature. Don’t forget, you neglected that call and run away to Sudan with help of TPLF thugs. So, you are not qualified to speak on it. You will never knew to be hungry, you have no idea how to feel being winded. You have no clue to walk 10 hours a day. You have idea to go days with out sleeping. So my point what the F do you know? I know you are contempt on your own worthless life but at least try to have some compassion and understanding. When some one gives his and her life to a common cause, think about that. I know you live your worthless life for your self, but there more to life. But you wouldn’t know. You don’t seem to understand everything about life.

iSem

Nitricc:
There is quote from some brainy guy, I will not mention his name because you will not know him, they do not teach you that in the Ghetto but the said this: insanity is doing the same thing again and againa and expecting different result. The same goes saying the same thing again again.
I know those who walked 10 hours, died for Eritera, but you have not evidence that your father figure IA did that. Those people like me who have real fathers do not look up to Isaisa Afwerki as a father figure so we tell truth and that drives your one celled brain nuts and that is the goal

Do not lecture me re the sacrifices that Eritreans paid, you have no clue, your father figure through his ypfdj or the Hitler youth told you so. Your filthy mouth is well know., and all your protozoan brain ( this mean single cell), I translate it for your because poor thing you never had that chance to contemplate and wonder about in school and your anguished desire to find father figure might have forgotten what minute schooling you had between the snorts of you know what. So shut up and enjoy your ignorance. Go serve Eritrea in the military and liberate Badme from TPLF and I will have some respect for you. But you will not do that, Eritrea does not allow you to have a bf

Nitricc

semere; you are just a loser who have no idea about life. you are not different that a pig. you runaway like a little girl behind TPLF goons now, you are acting tough. you are nothing but burden of society. go write another article titled “Canada my country” please! Do you still maintain your hook-up in Sudan? you know?????

iSem

Nitircc

go talk to your level. You are an accident, and that is why you are so rude, Nitirc acid was used on you before you were born to get rid of you
You know what I mean? Saddam Hussien,, his name means the confrontational, because his mother did not want him and she tried to get rid of him by hitting her stomach against walls, but the dude was born and she called him Saddam. So is your father figure IA, was an an accident ike you and he is taking his revenge on the eri people, so do not take your revenge on me, Saddam ended up in fox hole, Gaddadif in sewer and IA will be in Mai Bela, and you in the same place. Humanity must get rid of the accidents like you.
You make this August forum a disgrace and that is why I will quit it

Nitricc

semere; my only wish is I hope you don’t have kids. I feel for them. you are a trash of your society and a burden to the west. The truth you runaway and you are coward. now go to Sudan and visit. you know.

iSem

Nitiricc
look who is talking, I just told you are an accident and any accident should be avoided in society and when your father IA that you are emotionally adopted by is gone, you will see what I, Isem the “coward” will do to your likes. If you grow some brains cells by then when IA’s grip is gone from your little brain. do not come to Eri because you cannot imagine what I will do to you. Now go and ask your mom how did she avoid your Nitricc Accident

Nitricc

Semere; there is no surprise that you resort to mothers, growing up father less will allow you such trash what you are. As loser as worthless you are, you have the right to criticize and to comedown at the government, but for a person who runaway wearing women’s dress at the help of TPLF goons; what right do you have to criticize the brave fighters who gave up every thing the greater cause? I know you can’t have shame or morals, one needs to be raised by a father to learn, honor and to have respect to honorable people. That is I prey to good you have no children of your own, god forbid. Again, it fair game to criticize the government and any public officials but to go after the brave fighters while you run away to fatten your worthless self is beyond the rim. No go find a loser to talk to. Quite frankly, it is my beneath to speak with garbage people like you. Got lost and leave the brave Eritrean fighters who lived the meaning of live.

Abi

Happy birthday. Stay strong.
“No matter how long the night may be, the day is sure to come”

Ismail AA

Selam Awate Forum folks,
Happy Birthday Ciham. Hope you are in good health, and staying strong. The ordeal will pass; keep up your struggle to stay strong.

Brhan

Hi Awate Team,

The dictator of Eritrea, like any dictator, uses the opportunity of situations that distract people, to do his dirty work.
We hope for the release of all political prisoners but unfortunately, I do not think COVID 19 will change the dictator of Eritrea’s mind. Even before this invisible virus, the issue of the health of the prisoners was a concern to many, including to some international organizations. Once there was a video shared in social media of the crowded prison of Adi Abeto. And there are many like it , including SAWA, which is a prison by itself
The regime systematically lets the deterioration of the health of sick prisoners and lets them out when it knows they are going to die soon.
Yemane Gebremeskel who loves to tweet to any Eritrean related news from foreign media is mum to the call of some international organizations to the release of prisoners due to COVID 19.
Thanks Awate for highlighting the issue of Eritrean prisoners during the COVID 19 epidemic that we are in and I call forum contributors to address this issue when we speak about the epidemic here and there (Eritrea)

Paulos

Happy Birthday Ciham! May all your wishes come true. I can already see you becoming the first female President of Eritrea! All the power to you!

The most puzzling thing about this dictator is if he has a normal human brain in his skull. Once i had read, but don’t remember the details, that dictators have parts of their brain that are not developed as in other normal people. The scientists said that that could explain the absence of empathy and compassion in these people, and their other characteristics. They also said that people who support dictators have similar brain structure with the dictator when examined under MRI.

Sometimes, one is forced to ask, if he really is aware that people are languishing in his many prisons, if his ministers ever dare to discuss with him the matter or even among themselves about those behind bar, if their conscience accuses them at all, who are living and who are dead, or even if they know that prisoners are human beings, if human beings have any value to them at all, etc. The culprit is not only DIA, but also his ministers and supporters, the enablers in general.

I vaguely remember what DIA said once when asked about a journalist. It was something to the effect, “how do I know his whereabouts?” Is it possible that these prisoners occupy no corner in his brain?

What would he say, if he really cares to say anything at all, if the virus enters one of his many prisons, other than saying that it is pneumonia. These people should have known that pneumonia has a cause, and nobody is going to believe that it is due to bacteria or another virus as long as Covid-19 is causing havoc all over the world.

Here is a chance for the country and for himself, to release prisoners and get out of the quagmire. Nevertheless, how can he explain those who are no more in life. That is his dilemma, if at all. At least those who still live should be spared, and therefore the prisoners should be released ASAP, before it too late.

Does he plan to leave Eritrea and Eritreans in limbo, to sort out for themselves the difficult situation he is going to leave behind when he is dead? Of course, one can’t call it love, what he does to Eritrea, even though he worked for her independence, but utter contempt and hate. BUT WHY???

Abi

Hello Horizon
Isaias is not a normal dictator. He hates Eritrea and Eritreans. His heart was somewhere else. As I have said before, he is intentionally hurting Eritreans for a cardinal sin they committed. They got in his way from achieving his dream of becoming Ethiopian King. Eritrea was supposed to be a stepping stone for his goal. Now that he couldn’t become Ethiopian President, he is stepping on his people’s throats.
I could not come up with a better explanation than this.

Nitricc

Hey ras Abiy; sometimes you go with the stupids. PIA is Eritrean as anyone can be. The man is battle tested and with honors. Although, you can question his deeds, for instance, why keep this young lady, Ciham in prison is something you can question. It just Doesn’t make sense but to say he wanted to be a king of Ethiopia is stupid. There is no one is more Eritrean than PIA. I understand how the losers trying to trash him because they can’t beat him. By the way no one wants to be a king of Ethiopia, too messy and corrupted culture. So my advice to you is stop feeding in to the day-care society and thing for your self

Abi

Hello General
I’m going with the stupids to be on the safe side:)
In the early days of your independence ( when you were running around with your diapers) it was rumored ( it was more of a proposal) that Isaias wanted to unite the two countries and become the president. It was Meles who tightly shut the door in his face.
The people committed the crime by being obsessed with the independent thing.

Teodros Alem

abi
Qomtt’, what happened to “ethiopia for both eri and ethio, but eri for eris slogan”?
1, if pia want to be a president of ethiopia in 1991 nobody i said nobody can stop him because the balance of power was in his side at the time.
2. The whole of ethiopia(-tplf) was extremely dis agree with the separation of eritrea from ethiopia at that time.
3, the war in derg time was all about saving eritrea from separation.
4, eplf war was all.about separation/independence from ethiopia but tplf sidekick war was all about killing Adgi and QoMaT’a.

Nitricc

Abiy; please think for your self, you don’t to follow the adult day care crowd. PIA was leading one of the most unique rebel organization ever known. He had over hundred thousands of fighters who were welling to see Eritrea disassociate from Ethiopia. Suddenly if their leader wants to change venues and that is possibility? They eat him alive. I know to those weak and expired people may think so but in real time, it is impossible. It is true PIA wants strong Ethiopia with strong economic integration with Eritrea but it is BS to say PIA wanted to lead Ethiopia. Even if he wanted so, Melles and the rest of TPLF goons had no power to stop him. He could have done what ever he wanted and he did. He took both ports and got away with it. That is the truth.

Abi

Hello ሚሊሽያ ወታደር ነትራኬ
He will return the ports in due time.
I want to see your face when he return the ports. You will say WHAT?!?!?!?!?

Teodros Alem

abi
Tella, so all the talk, pia want to be president of ethio, pia is from tigrai, bla bla, is a propaganda to make pia return the ports? or what?
i mean can u elaborate a little more how is he return the ports in due time? Is he returning one port or two?

Nitricc

Abiy; what you guys don’t know or refused to know is that it is a done deal. We! Yes! Will safe guard what ever handed to us. The ports are gone. You Have no choice. You could have fought a little harder when you were In Afabet front. Why did you run away to Canada? My man too late. ShEbia did you know what. Pia and EPLF did the did and the. Rest is history.

Abi

መርሃባ ምልምል ወታደር ንትርክ
You said, “We! Yes! Will safe guard what ever handed to us” . Very patriotic in talking department while waiting for the free air ticket handed to you to visit your country. At this rate you might earn a round trip ticket that will comfortably take you via Addis.
The other day you told us you have been to Japan, Thailand and Israel.
See, you are getting closer and closer! Before you know it, you are home!!! I doubt if you can locate Eritrea on the world map? Anyway, I feel generous today so will give you a hint. It is located just North of Ethiopia. Based on your eagerness to visit your country, if you don’t rush a bit, you might find Eritrea in northern Ethiopia. Oops!
Keep dreaming! One day you might wake up in Asmara.

Nitricc

Abiy; I don’t think you any clue what I am talking about. So, here it is
The ports are gone for good.
Eritrea is here to stay for ever and ever.
TPLF thugs are done!
One day I will rule Eritrea and I will put up nice beautifully wall between your TPLF thugs and the dignified people of Eritrea.
During my rule; Eritrea will prevail and will be worthy of the sacrifice her children made
And finally, no one will be hinged up side down, you as your country do.
Now, ras Abiy have the respect EPLF deserves; you know very well what they did to you. It is a Sige of virtue and dignity to respect the people who beat you up and down.
So, on that sprite, why don’t you tell us what happened in Afabet to you?

I think it is time for you to buy your own air ticket and visit all the battlefields in Eritrea. It is shame you haven’t visited Eritrea yet.
Anyway, I promise to tell you everything I know about አፍአቤት after you visited Eritrea. Until then you have got no አፍ to talk about አፍአቤት or any other place or event regarding Eritrea. In other words አፍህን ዝጋ!

አፍአቤት አፋቸውን እንደለጎማቸው ኤርትራውያን አንተም አፍህን ዝጋ::

Nitricc

hey Ras; Abiy; no need to get offended. why can’t you tell us the real story? we know AfAbet is the place of the braves. if not how do you explain a few bandits to destroy the best army in black Africa within 72 hours. So, please tell us, how was it? you don’t have to tell us about the bravery of the Eritreans, we already know but we wanted to know how the best armed and trained can evaporate just like that? what say you, Ras Abiy?

Abi

Hello General
አቤት አፍ!
There are two mysteries I like to find out
1 -why doesn’t this online General grow some balls and visit the country that he is bragging day and night? Why doesn’t he show the MINIMUM respect to the men and women who were sacrificed at different battlefields to bring him a country ?
2- Why is he indifferent about the country and the people?
Now ጀግናው “Captain America”, stop playing video games and go visit your country. Show us you have inherited a fraction of the courage that your fathers and mothers displayed at አፍአቤት.

ምላስና ሰንበር ያለ ሃሞት ነው እንዴ ያበሉህ? ምላስ ብቻ ሆነህ ቀረህ! ምስኪኑ ሚሊሽያ…

Report to me upon returning back from Eritrea. Only then I will tell you everything I know about አፍአቤት.

Nitricc

Ras Abiy; I don’t think you understand. You were one of the best Black African Army that was armed to the teeth and supported with Russian Generals; the question is how is possible few bandits with AK-47 kick you know where? You see where I am having hard time with. all I ask you is a little help. Again how exactly is 20K army to vanish in 72 hours by few bandits who are armed with AK-47. what is even worst is the Russian generals were captured. If I were I will hate Eritrea and Eritreans. They are something. lol please tell us what happened in AfAbet?

Abi

መርሃባ ሚሊሽያ ንትርክ
You just told us that 20K people army vanished in 72 hours. Unbelievable achievement! What do you want me to add other than the victors are in refugee camps all over the world including the streets of Adigrat. I heard some were shot dead on their wheelchairs, some are in the dungeons at አፍአቤት and others places. Some died crossing the Mediterranean Sea. The lucky ones are abusing the people including SAWA slavery camp.
Now tell us why you refused to visit the place you hold near and dear. ( just kidding. The place you try to stay away as far as possible for as long as possible.) My guess is you don’t want to see the abuses happening in your country.

አንተ አፍህን መሰብሰብ ካልቻልክ የአዋተ ቤተሰብ ገንዘብ አሰባስበን ወደ አባትና እናትህ አገር እንልክሃለን::

Nitricc

Hey Ras Abiy; I have more respect for you than the others who runaway like a little girl. At least you were there and fought for what you believe. My point is that the Ethiopian soldiers were educated and battle tested. I read what they did to Somalia but when it comes to Eritrea; Eritreans completely dominated you. All the generals were educated and well tried while the Eritreans has no military education nor experience. Some just came from the peasant family. I am trying to figure out what happened? you know exactly what happened but you are not telling us.

Abi

Hello General
If you really want to know what happened at አፍአቤት you are asking the wrong person. I don’t have any idea what happened at አፍአቤት and all the other places. The first time I saw the ወንበዴዎች was in Addis. You might need to ask another person preferably Vet Mahmud.
Now who is the right person to ask as to why you refused to visit your country ? I know you have already refused to answer a simple question. You are dodging the question like a coronavirus.

Teodros Alem

abi
Tella , i believe u, u were busy shoe shining at that time to support ur mom, when there was no tella and … Costumers.
life is good now with T kefela comparing to then, right?

Teodros Alem

Selam Moderator
Sorry, i didn’t mean to violate the forum, sorry , i was just responding to ….

Teodros Alem

abi
Tella, i think u mixed up things, u mixed up the eplf war with derg regime and the hard time eritrea faces after independence/ separation

abi
Tella, since u r son of 1 birr tella whor , ur insult too like topical lestro son of cheap tella whoer.
Ur mouth is the one stinks because of taking 24/7 nonsense..
Zere Qomatta.

Teodros Alem

Selam Nitricc
The reason the likes of Qabi and others say ” pia want to become ethiopia president” is because,
1, they truly believe ethiopia is nothing, no identity but just a geographical location.
2, this people also believe there is no eritreansim but the people of highland eritrea is tigrai and they believe eritreansim is created by Italian, eplf/pia and elf, and since Italia and elf don’t exist right now in eritrea, this people think attacking pia’s eritrea identity will kill eritreansim.
Having said that, pia arresting Cham Ali for the fault she has nothing to do with it shows nothing but how pia is eritrea”s criminal dictator, even mengesu h/mariam didn’t arrest pia’s family to attack pia.

Paulos

Selam Horizon,

In “Scarface”, Al-Pacino says something that has become an iconic line than in any other Cinema save, “The Godfather.” He says, “I have only two things I hold dear in this life–my bal*s and my integrity, and I won’t break them for no one.”

Moreover, in “The Godfather”, there is this particular scene and dialogue that runs for a good fifteen minutes between Don Corleone and a character named Bona Siera America. He asks and pleads with Don Corleone, to give him justice for his American born and raised Italian daughter had been violated by her American and a son of a powerful politician boyfriend. He went on to say that, the American justice system had failed him.

Certainly, the play-writers had something important to impart on their mind—the Mafias or the Gangsters have their own moral clarity and codes as well. Isaias has neither. Perhaps, as you put it, he is sick in his head for we in a rather strange way, should feel sorry for him. We have to direct our valid anger towards his supporters instead.

Abi

Paul
In relation to The Greatest Al Pacino, there is a motivational speech by him that every human being should listen. Of course, the speech is not based on Politics but the content applies to every aspect of life including people under dictatorship.
Now, I want you to come up with the title of the movie. I’m 1000% sure you have watched the movie at least a dozen times.

Berhe Y

Hi Abi,

I think “scent of a women”.

Berhe

Abi

Hawna Berhe
I’m thinking of “ Any given Sunday “.

Paulos

Abination,

“Scent of a woman”?

Abi

Paul
You deserve 100 push-ups for not paying attention.

Paulos

Abination,

Guess what though, every morning, the minute I get off my bed, I do between 40 to 50 push-ups. No excuses, every morning. I want to keep up with my kids. But tomorrow as per your boot-camp order, will try to Jack it up to sixty not so much 100.

Abi

Paul
If you do it after listening to Al Pacino in “ Any given Sunday “, you can easily make 150.

iSem

Hi Abi:
Guilty by Suspicion 🙂

Abi

iSem
That is by Robert De Niro. I was looking for Al Pacino “Any given Sunday “.
I miss Saay already.