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I get into troubles... I created a document with page size 441x666pt and I defined some margins etc. but when I export in into PDF and I read it with Adobe Reader and I check the properties of the document, the size is not the one I defined.. it's bigger like if the margins were added outside de document instead of inside..

Yes I have bleeds in my document. Then does that mean that if I want to use bleeds then I have to calculate the size of the page minus these bleeds size? e.g. if the final size of the document is 661pt width and the bleeds are 10pt then I should say that the width of the document is 661-10 = 651pt?

There is something really strange.. Even if I change the size of my document in scribus to 100pt width.. and I export it into PDF it remains 521pt width when I check the properties of the PDF file... Something is wrong but I do not understand what??

Scribus will add trim/bleed marks outside the bleed area, so if those marks are included the PDF size will be bigger than the page size.

The whole point with bleed is to add additiona space outside the page, the printing process should use the trim box to decide what part of the page is "the content" and it should not matter whether there is space outside.

But then.. if I have a page size of 361pt width and I have bleed of 9pt and margins of 18pt and interior margin of 45pt.. then the final size of my pdf should be: 361 + 9*2 + 18*2 + 45 = 460pt although the final size of the pdf (checking inside the properties of the pdf) is 441pt.. so why?

But then the size of the pdf (in my example) would be 361+2*9 (9 is the size of the bleed I set in scribus) but then even with 2pt more the size of the pdf should be around 383 and not 441... So I do not understand why I get this? I am confused sorry..

I think the problem here is that Scribus allows no control of the size of the region used for crop/trim marks. The intention is probably that the RIP should take care of removing excess "margins" when the job is imposed. The best solution is probably to let Scribus make the PDF as large as needed, and then use some other tool to crop the PDF to the desired size.

for me everything looks as expected. if you take a look at the different frames in acrobat ('print production' – 'crop pages'), you'll see, that the final page is 361x586pt for every file.bleeds and crop marks need some space – so the full pdf size needs to be bigger!

The "problem" is that soso74 wants to have control of the size of the region used for the "marks", but Scribus does not allow that control. Now Scribus adds "to much space". Scribus only allows changing the bleed area, not the "marks" area.

So, as I said, the best solution is most likely to crop the document to the desired size in an external application. Or, if the PDF "boxes" don't have to be correct, use the "old" 1.3.3.x way for bleed (create the page size the same as the sheet and use guides and margins to place the content within the correct area).

on the linked blurb info page they recommend to check the final dimensions. but the dimensiones listed in the properties screenshot are those of the full pdf file. for the final page size (after cutting) you need acrobat pro (or you trust scribus…)