I haven’t been studying Venezuela too much, but it seems that food shortages were occurring first, and they are now at the black out stage.

That is because the farming in that nation collapsed before the fuel did.In the U.S. there is vastly more food production than fuel production and refinement.

If only they could Import more Mexicans to work those fields. I mean come on, what happened to the mantra of Women about buying local, growing local, and Farming? I thought this GREEN economy things works? They make their own fuel, I don’t understand it? What went wrong?

Its so weird. The place is a farming paradise. Why are they starving? It just does not make sense! I thought Immigrants were our strength? If they have all the strength, why are they starving. It makes no sense. Must be the White man holding them down. Err… (anyone from Europe will get that joke)

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

Let me let you in on a secret. Most HVAC in most business is controlled by some central location. Most do not encrypt their traffic either. THe controllers themselves are RIPE for fun activities. In fact, most of the main units have ZERO Firewalls.

Say if some asshole was an LVE tech. Came in during a remodel, being paid s~~~ wages, and said, LET F~~~ SOME S~~~ UP!.

Good times man. In fact, You can ROYALLY f~~~ up work days by Messing with the sensors. You have no idea just how f~~~ed up the collapse is going ot be without letting out a single firearm.

Like I said. People have no idea what they created. The more they rely on tech, the harder these f~~~ers are going to fall.

Folks, without the Network, People can not get ANY work done. THey can’t even get Phone calls or call for emergency services.

What most people don’t know is that most buildings and public offices don’t have real backups to the POTS line for 911. Ask PCC about their SITE WIDE BLACKOUT. The classes that required Online class work from the School’s own internal network was SOL.

In fact, in any major city, they all have the same backbones with little to no capacity for Backhauls. THose alone are based on Microwave tech. Rain, A sack of potatoes, Aluminum foam cans, etc can take each and every one of them out in a matter of 5 seconds. In fact, most Building UPS systems are almost all out of date. Not in operation, or have some kind of maintenance issue.

Because most utilities have to have an offsite and outside main, TUrning off entire buildings and freezing access to the main lines is as easy as can be. Once you have enough of these problems happen all at once, you can then concentrate on the Police force. THey are all out taking care of these issues. When you close down streets, and you have the masses of hungry starved people do the only thing they can do. ROB the COPS and POLICE. THey will be in FULL body armor. Problem is, They will be in such close proximity, they will be helpless to protect themselves in the city.

Private security will be hired. Problem. THat private security are just Unknowing entry points into the building.

You have no idea just how vulnerable this system is. People say a collapse will happen years from now? How about in the next 24 hours? And you can’t stop it.

What they do is predictable. You time the lights. You time the drive times. You time the garage doors. You find out WHO works what time and where they go and exit. You find out where they eat. You find out ALL this info, a SINGLE person Can do it all without even leaving his office chair.

And you can ALL thank women. They made this ALL so easy and possible. THe collapse is going to come when women get too scared to go to work. WHen Families are to scared to send their kids to school.

The best part, THE MEDIA is going to REPORT AWAY! And it was ALL caused by LAZY people trying to blame all of this on not putting the right people in charge.

Look up how 911 went down in Washington state. You don’t have to do s~~~. JUST KEEP PUSHING THEM TO HIRE WOMEN IN THESE TOP POSITIONS! Hell California made it easy for you. Put more women on the board. Watch the companies unravel, Swoop in a business , Undercut the contracts, and BOOM. A team of 100 men can do the work of 10,000 women. And if you think I am joking? Take a look at what happened in Hong Kong. THEY FIRED ALL THE WOMEN when they had no men to do the jobs for them.

Like I said. COLLAPSE is coming faster than you think. And thanks to MEN and companies always willing to let ANY women in, well. They made it easy. All the important men that run things are limited to a small handful. You take out those men, the whole house of cards come falling down.

HVAC? Try the doors not opening cuz the fire locks close all the doors. All of these system are now all connected. Again. You have no idea just how bad they f~~~ed themsleves. It’s only a matter of time.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

Let me let you in on a secret. Most HVAC in most business is controlled by some central location. Most do not encrypt their traffic either. THe controllers themselves are RIPE for fun activities. In fact, most of the main units have ZERO Firewalls.…

HVAC? Try the doors not opening cuz the fire locks close all the doors. All of these system are now all connected. Again. You have no idea just how bad they f~~~ed themsleves. It’s only a matter of time.

SCADA is quite vulnerable to hacking.

The possibility of Russia, China, Iran or North Korea doing a massive electronic Pearl Harbor is real.

Consider a massive electronic Pearl Harbor taking down massive amounts of SCADA systems and the Internet. Then a surprise launch from the middle of the Atlantic Ocean of 2 or 3 missiles and a high-atmosphere EMP pulse that fries everything else. Followed by a few well-placed terrorist attacks against physical infrastructure that is not electronic in nature… e.g. damns, bridges and critical overpasses, for example a few spots on I-95 that are choke points. S~~~ would be all f~~~ed up. Most of the country would be dead within a year, and that would be without a single nuke getting close to detonating near a city.

On any given day, we are closer doing be completely and perfectly f~~~ed beyond all recognition than 99.99% of the population realizes.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear.And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable.Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom.Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

But think about every other system you named, if any of those went down they’d close the building too. windows dont open for safety, so if hvac gone, its too cold or too hot. if computers or the network are down, probably cant do their jobs. if electeicity gone, computers and network are down, and hvac is down.

Look up the NYC Blackout of 1977. At the time NYC was dealing with a heat wave and that heat wave was considered one of the causes for the riot in NYC that the blackout caused.

Brother, Each day for the last year, I have been trying to help out men that are homeless. Do you know what I found? most do not have the will to break away from their addictions.

Gravel pit seems to be correct that some people have their path in life. Sometimes, compassion is the wrong thing to give a man. You must give knowledge. But only to those that seek it. That thirst for it.

You can’t feel bad for men that won’t break the cycle. They CHOOSE to be there. The best thing you can do is set an example by Hitting your full potential as a man.

For some this is money. For some it is knowledge. For some it is security, or family. Do I feel sorry for a man with a full family, kids, house debt and all that. Nope. A man is living his life as that man sees fit.

Remember in THe Human Stain:

” One of the most poignant moments in this sophisticated screenplay is when Silk tells Faunia, “I don’t think that you can measure sorrow.” True enough. But unlike any recent movie, The Human Stain tallies up the pain, the suffering, and the loss that come into our lives when we refuse to acknowledge the shadow part of ourselves. To live a lie about freedom is terrible whether one is a person or a nation. ”

We all must come to terms with our live brother. Some are well to do, and some are not. You have to accept that.

It’s like me always trying to be better than those around me. It’s a foolish thing to do. Yet, I still have not learned. I am stuck in that loop. And I have to admit that to myself.

Should any of you feel bad that I am smoking my lungs to an early grave? No. I choose to do so. Regardless. I have made my choice, and no one is going to change my mind. Just as a fat f~~~ does not change his lifestyle habits until the heart attack comes.

Its wasting your time and energy to care about those that do not choose to care about themselves when there is a ladder to climb out of the pit. Yet they choose not to.

For some like THX, he is always going to talk about one subject. Lurch, the same thing. Blade is going to get better one day and start posting fat whales on MGTOW again. And Faust, Wizard, and Branched are all going to keep their own bias about what they have experienced and seen. Many of the black members on here are still going to think we are stormfront light. And every woman is going to keep thinking we hate women etc etc. etc. And those notions that I have are going to be there until they change.

You can’t feel sorry for what we do and what paths we take in our lives. In truth, and this is my Bias, you should cheer the f~~~ up. Start breathing in that sweet wonderful air in your lungs, and not worry about other people. Just like Baz Luhrmann said, “worrying about a problem is about as productive as chewing bubble gum” . Sure it keeps your teeth someone clean, but it does nothing about the cavities.

I don’t know brother. You seem to have something going on in your life. Or maybe it’s just you. And I am reading it wrong. But it sure seems that there is something going on in your life. And I hope you find happiness.

Life is just time. Once it is passed, you don’t get any do overs in this lifetime. Sure, you will come back at some point maybe as another being or soul. Maybe you will go to the great beyond. Who knows. But this is all the life you got man. Enjoy it. Its to short to worry about others that don’t care about you.

Do I care. Yes I do. But just like Carnage pointed out, I have my own selfish motivations. Or maybe, I’m just sick and tired of enjoying all of this wonder all by myself. And I want to enjoy it with other like minded men. TO create. To Build. And to make something that lasts its time on this earth.

Like it or not, time waits for no man. SO LIVE. LIVE a good life.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

If you believe that, then why are you on a forum dedicated to intelligent/responsible men whom walk away from society to go their own way?

F~~~ all was said for effect. We are making a small impact, but MGTOW per se isn’t going to achieve much, ultimately.I’m on this forum because I wanted to save myself, also out of compassion for other men.

I will tip my hat to you for directly responding to my question.

Your mistake is assuming that MGTOW are not doing anything. MGTOW have mostly given up on changing the current system. Though, most MGTOW see the current system is on the way to collapse and some MGTOW are preparing for what comes after the collapse of society.

Brother, Each day for the last year, I have been trying to help out men that are homeless. Do you know what I found? most do not have the will to break away from their addictions.Gravel pit seems to be correct that some people have their path in life. Sometimes, compassion is the wrong thing to give a man. You must give knowledge. But only to those that seek it. That thirst for it.You can’t feel bad for men that won’t break the cycle. They CHOOSE to be there. The best thing you can do is set an example by Hitting your full potential as a man.For some this is money. For some it is knowledge. For some it is security, or family. Do I feel sorry for a man with a full family, kids, house debt and all that. Nope. A man is living his life as that man sees fit.Remember in THe Human Stain:” One of the most poignant moments in this sophisticated screenplay is when Silk tells Faunia, “I don’t think that you can measure sorrow.” True enough. But unlike any recent movie, The Human Stain tallies up the pain, the suffering, and the loss that come into our lives when we refuse to acknowledge the shadow part of ourselves. To live a lie about freedom is terrible whether one is a person or a nation. ”We all must come to terms with our live brother. Some are well to do, and some are not. You have to accept that.It’s like me always trying to be better than those around me. It’s a foolish thing to do. Yet, I still have not learned. I am stuck in that loop. And I have to admit that to myself.Should any of you feel bad that I am smoking my lungs to an early grave? No. I choose to do so. Regardless. I have made my choice, and no one is going to change my mind. Just as a fat f~~~ does not change his lifestyle habits until the heart attack comes.Its wasting your time and energy to care about those that do not choose to care about themselves when there is a ladder to climb out of the pit. Yet they choose not to.For some like THX, he is always going to talk about one subject. Lurch, the same thing. Blade is going to get better one day and start posting fat whales on MGTOW again. And Faust, Wizard, and Branched are all going to keep their own bias about what they have experienced and seen. Many of the black members on here are still going to think we are stormfront light. And every woman is going to keep thinking we hate women etc etc. etc. And those notions that I have are going to be there until they change.You can’t feel sorry for what we do and what paths we take in our lives. In truth, and this is my Bias, you should cheer the f~~~ up. Start breathing in that sweet wonderful air in your lungs, and not worry about other people. Just like Baz Luhrmann said, “worrying about a problem is about as productive as chewing bubble gum” . Sure it keeps your teeth someone clean, but it does nothing about the cavities.I don’t know brother. You seem to have something going on in your life. Or maybe it’s just you. And I am reading it wrong. But it sure seems that there is something going on in your life. And I hope you find happiness.Life is just time. Once it is passed, you don’t get any do overs in this lifetime. Sure, you will come back at some point maybe as another being or soul. Maybe you will go to the great beyond. Who knows. But this is all the life you got man. Enjoy it. Its to short to worry about others that don’t care about you.Do I care. Yes I do. But just like Carnage pointed out, I have my own selfish motivations. Or maybe, I’m just sick and tired of enjoying all of this wonder all by myself. And I want to enjoy it with other like minded men. TO create. To Build. And to make something that lasts its time on this earth.Like it or not, time waits for no man. SO LIVE. LIVE a good life.

No offence bro but you have a habit of interpreting what I’ve said the wrong way and then writing war and peace against it!

I simply said I have compassion for other men. That’s it. My compassion is as natural as breathing to me.

I choose to behave according to the kind of world I’d want to live in, even if this isn’t openly shared by the majority.

Don’t worry, I’m not losing sleep over men who don’t want to be helped. It’s possible to practise compassion without attachment, this is the way of the Tao.

This is the way. Look at the way nature seems indifferent, but ultimately cares for all.

I see great compassion within you, but sometimes less is more.

I suggest you read the Tao te Ching.

Your need to over explain and convince is rooted in your lack of self acceptance.

If you believe that, then why are you on a forum dedicated to intelligent/responsible men whom walk away from society to go their own way?

F~~~ all was said for effect. We are making a small impact, but MGTOW per se isn’t going to achieve much, ultimately.I’m on this forum because I wanted to save myself, also out of compassion for other men.

I will tip my hat to you for directly responding to my question.Your mistake is assuming that MGTOW are not doing anything. MGTOW have mostly given up on changing the current system. Though, most MGTOW see the current system is on the way to collapse and some MGTOW are preparing for what comes after the collapse of society.

Resepct bro.

I have literally admitted above MGTOW is making a small impact so I’m a little perplexed at why you’d say what you just did. Please abide by the rules of logic and fairness, Mr Scientist.

Ultimately though MGTOW is just one small side effect of what is massively altering society.

If you get your mouse to highlight (left click button on the mouse and move over the words you want to quote to highlight them) the words, you can click on the QUOTE button. Then a reply box should appear below with the quote.

how do you guys get the quote of what someone else posted into my reply.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

Just go MGTOW. Follow what you have to do. And WORK HARD. SAVE THAT MONEY IN A SAFE PLACE. And you are GOLDEN.

Excellent advice!

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

Who would? The women? The bums on the street? If my scenario where to happen, women would let men out of prison and try to make them work—but it would backfire. What I’m suggesting is: if there are no more responsible men in a society, women will either panic or learn how to do some hard, physical labor in order to maintain the lifestyles they are accustomed to. I think they can’t fully appreciate what responsible men bring to their communities until they can’t find a single one to rely on.

Women that are used to working in air-conditioned office buildings will refuse to collect garbage. So they might give a bottle of whiskey to a street bum to do it for them. But the bums don’t have a set schedule—so that would be a random service. Some of these office bimbos wouldn’t even be willing to get a ladder and change a light bulb. They will pay anyone money to avoid getting their pretty hands dirty. They are not going to be carrying rifles and rounding up men for forced labor. They don’t have the b~~~~ to do that.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

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"I honestly thought I was going crazy! I'm so glad I've found mgtow, I was naturally separating myself from everything, everywhere I looked I wanted to vomit in disgust, it's nice to see that there is an entire group of men who feel the exact same way, I hope this movement makes a massive social impact. I'll gladly support this anyway I can. Thanks guys"