TUF4: Anyone watching?

So is anyone watching this season's TUF4? I watched last week and had to chuckle to myself after Shonie schooled that other dude. I actually thought the other guy was a shoe in to win but I guess Shonie proved me wrong. Haha...

Anyway, I don't really care much for this season's layout. It seems like they just grabbed a bunch of fighter's and are throwing them at each other. Doesn't seem like there's much connection with the fighter's and the audience. I didn't see much of either GSP or Couture in the first episode. I think having no-name, up and coming fighters being trained by successful UFC fighters is much better to watch. Seeing guys develop and improve each week is what's interesting.

Well, who knows there was only 1 episode so far and I'll be looking forward to this Thursday's episode. I hope it gets better.

Ah, you don't like the Latin Snake? The way The Contender chops the fights up is utterly ridiculous. Anyways I'm looking forward to this season of TUF. It'll get better, the fact that all the fights will be at a much higher level then the previous season's has me intrigued. I think Shonie/No Love will be one of the worst fights all season.

I miss the old style. The behind the scenes stuff at the house were funny and entertaining. Also it was interistiing to to the the coaches and how they are away from the ring. I became a Tito fan after this last show.

He was definitely bleeding right into Ray's face/eyes/mouth. He took a solid shot more than once while trying to dodge that steady flow of blood. I understand that the cut wasn't in a bad place, but that was a lot of blood. I thought it was going to be called as soon as the cut was opened up.

He was definitely bleeding right into Ray's face/eyes/mouth. He took a solid shot more than once while trying to dodge that steady flow of blood. I understand that the cut wasn't in a bad place, but that was a lot of blood. I thought it was going to be called as soon as the cut was opened up.

That cut was nasty! I was really impressed with his ability to remain calm, while spplying pressure to the cut and still managing to give some nice forearms to the face.

Yep sure knows how to pour it on. Anyone else surprised that it went to a thrid round? Despite the blood I thought DeWees decisively won the first two rounds...

I did 2. The only reason that went to a 3rd round was the blood. DeWees lost out on a couple of good arm bars for submission because I don't think he could see that Ray was pushing his arm up by itself which is a no no when you are mounted. And for Ray to call it a wicked elbow in the post fight interview. It was a lucky elbow. But that's fighting. Either way DeWees did a hell of a job. Even with his one hand trying to stop the blood while fighting. Shows he has a big warriors heart.

Not to take anything away from the other guy. He does look like one tuff SOB and had some good kicks.

That fight was disgusting and I have a sick affection for blood. Dewees couldnt handle the sight of all that blood. Not to knock the guy, but his game went from great to barely moving after that cut. He either gassed, or that blood scared the **** out of him.

As for Gideon, come on, do some cardio. The last 2 rounds were weaksauce. If you open a guy up like that, finish it off

Like I said earlier, I think he handled the blood great. He had enough composure/skill to cover the cut with one hand and still pound Ray with the other. If anybody didn't handle it well it was Ray. He was squirming to get out of the way of the blood and took some solid shots because of it...not that I blame him though.

I can't believe Jeremy Jackson did what he did in the situation he was in. Not trying to be a ****, but it's easy to understand why he is sleeping in the trunk of his car. He's a good guy hopefully he'll get his sh*t together. I've had friends like him that do unbelievably stupid sh*t over girls, and I honestly can not fathom what is going through there head. Scott Smith's RNC defense is REALLY bad!

Yeah, that was stupid. At least Dana didn't give another "I'm a badass" speech. I was hoping Smith would take it since he kinda got screwed vs. Terrell (although they edited on unleashed), but he looked bad.

What's the story with Serra's right bicep? It looks like part of it was removed or something.

I really want to see Burnett. He looks beat up and worn down by life now, but I enjoyed his fights from the old days.

That's twice now that they've mentioned Rampage in the UFC. I've gotta think that Dana's trying to get him....

I think TUF4 is okay, I also would like to see more of the coaches with the fighters. They dont seem to motivated in there training. I think Sera is a very very good corner man, its easy as a fighter to understand him and he stays calm so in sence it would help the fighter to stay relaxed and focused.

I think TUF4 is okay, I also would like to see more of the coaches with the fighters. They dont seem to motivated in there training. I think Sera is a very very good corner man, its easy as a fighter to understand him and he stays calm so in sence it would help the fighter to stay relaxed and focused.

Yeah Sera gives good advice. St pierre dont say sh1t he's just there for the $ and exposure IMO. I dont think TUF4 is bad, I try to catch an episode whenever i can. Man Mikey Burnett was such an animal before but he was real dissappointing in his fight he just doesnt have the fire anymore. I think he did to much drugs thats why he always does that funky thing with his eyes.

I don't think Burnett's eye thing is from drugs, it looks like the same condition a student of mine had last year. I can't think of the name, but the eye flutters back and forth faster than normal (all eyes do that to some extent).

I dont think that's a fair assessment. Couture and GSP are there as coaches only. I would bet that 99% of footage with them is on the cutting room floor.

In the first three TUF's there was almost nothing in the way of coaching footage shown. It was the actual fights and all the drama stuff; TUF 4 is no different. They probably don't want to be providing free MMA tips or be liable for injury by airing coaching footage.

oh, i didnt know that. looked like a twitch from using uppers to much. Wasnt he a beast tho' back in the day? He was in great shape too.

He's like all the Lion's Den fighters, they were really good back then, and everyone else progressed and they didn't progress much. He's still as much of a beast, just Din Thomas is waaaay better then anyone he was fighting back in 97 or whatever.

I will have to politely disagree about GSP being there for the exposure/$. I remember watching his first big PPV against Karo and he has done nothing but make a name for himself since then...that was about three years ago. I doubt there are many MMA fans that don't already know who he is. I'm not knocking you bro, that's just my opinion.

LOL...I have to agree about Burnett. Nice guy but damn he has a mean eye twitch.

Yeah, I was pulling for him, but he was just out matched. What do you guys think about this year in comparison to the past two years? I was against the concept at first, but I have been surprised with how much I have liked this season. Shonie Carter cracks me up and I love it that some of the guys "get" his character and what he is doing IE Matt Serra.

I will have to politely disagree about GSP being there for the exposure/$. I remember watching his first big PPV against Karo and he has done nothing but make a name for himself since then...that was about three years ago. I doubt there are many MMA fans that don't already know who he is. I'm not knocking you bro, that's just my opinion.

yeah well ill agree. its probably like someone else said, its all cut out of the show

I was pulling for Burnett, but you could tell that he wasn't going to win. He's missed too much time and may not have the fire he used to have as one of you said. It's weird that he went home too. The other guys who lost have stayed around to train.

He should have probably won the title against Millitech back in the day. All Millitech did was tie him up and try to neutralize him causing it to be terribly boring.

I was pulling for Burnett, but you could tell that he wasn't going to win. He's missed too much time and may not have the fire he used to have as one of you said. It's weird that he went home too. The other guys who lost have stayed around to train.

He should have probably won the title against Millitech back in the day. All Millitech did was tie him up and try to neutralize him causing it to be terribly boring.

He wasnt in nearly as good of shape as he was before. Could be age or just lack of training.