Here is an interesting compromise that I think will make open-borders people and anti-illegal immigration people equally happy. The solution lies in the correct interpretation of the constitution that says the federal government has the power to establlish naturalization rules. Naturalization rules are not the same as immigration because naturalization is the process at which someone becomes a citizen of the United States while immigration is the movement of people across national borders. This is a clear distinction that says that the power to control immigration lies with each state so a state like Arizona can declare no more immigrants while California can allow as many people as they want simply because the power to control immigration belongs to each state and not to the federal government. Each state can then have its own immigration policy (not naturalization policy since that belongs in the federal government). This should make everyone happy.

Do you want to add something intelligent to the conversation? Actually..can you add something intelligent to any conversation?

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To consider this an conversation would be saying that what you're saying isn't complete bullshit in the first place.

Just consider this cold hard fact next time before making a similar thread: The Federal Government gives how much aid to states? Think about that.

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How does that change the constitutional powers of any state because if getting money from the federal government means you lose your rights then federal welfare recipients lose theirs as well. Think about that.

Naturalization rules are not the same as immigration because naturalization is the process at which someone becomes a citizen of the United States while immigration is the movement of people across national borders.

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Except the fact that the federal government will end up paying for any benefits of those who are not citizens if any partake in any sort of government program. Hence, the federal government has a say in what goes on.

The states cannot simply take federal money and have the final say on immigration.

I have a novel, never before attempted approach to the illegal alien problem. All of the illegal aliens could either go back to Mexico under their own steam or be carried out. Then, they could seek to come into this country legally. If your intentions are honorable, why do you "sneak" into the country?

I have a novel, never before attempted approach to the illegal alien problem. All of the illegal aliens could either go back to Mexico under their own steam or be carried out. Then, they could seek to come into this country legally. If your intentions are honorable, why do you "sneak" into the country?

Here is an interesting compromise that I think will make open-borders people and anti-illegal immigration people equally happy. The solution lies in the correct interpretation of the constitution that says the federal government has the power to establlish naturalization rules. Naturalization rules are not the same as immigration because naturalization is the process at which someone becomes a citizen of the United States while immigration is the movement of people across national borders. This is a clear distinction that says that the power to control immigration lies with each state so a state like Arizona can declare no more immigrants while California can allow as many people as they want simply because the power to control immigration belongs to each state and not to the federal government. Each state can then have its own immigration policy (not naturalization policy since that belongs in the federal government). This should make everyone happy.

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im·mi·grate (&#301;m'&#301;-gr&#257;t')
v. im·mi·grat·ed, im·mi·grat·ing, im·mi·grates
v. intr.To enter and settle in a country or region to which one is not native. See Usage Note at migrate.
v. tr.To send or introduce as immigrants: Britain immigrated many colonists to the New World.

nat·u·ral·ize
&#8194; &#8194;/&#712;næt&#643;&#601;r&#601;&#716;la&#618;z, &#712;næt&#643;r&#601;-/ Show Spelled [nach-er-uh-lahyz, nach-ruh-] Show IPA verb,-ized, -iz·ing.
verb (used with object)
1.to confer upon (an alien) the rights and privileges of a citizen.
2.to introduce (organisms) into a region and cause them to flourish as if native.
3.to introduce or adopt (foreign practices, words, etc.) into a country or into general use: to naturalize a french phrase.
4.to bring into conformity with nature.
5.to regard or explain as natural rather than supernatural: to naturalize miracles.
6.to adapt or accustom to a place or to new surroundings.
verb (used without object)
7.to become naturalized.
8.to adapt as if native to a new environment, set of circumstances, etc.
9.to study or carry on research in natural history.

Also, especially British, nat·u·ral·ise.

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Do you wish to rephrase your OP or do you prefer to continue to display your ignorance and stupidity?

Naturalization rules are not the same as immigration because naturalization is the process at which someone becomes a citizen of the United States while immigration is the movement of people across national borders.

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Except the fact that the federal government will end up paying for any benefits of those who are not citizens if any partake in any sort of government program. Hence, the federal government has a say in what goes on.

The states cannot simply take federal money and have the final say on immigration.

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Where in the constitution does it says states have this power unless they are getting money from the federal government? And if the federal government doesn't want to pay for a states open border policy then declare that no money will be spent on non-naturalized immigrants. That state can pay for its own open-border policy.

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