the Hijacking of the 9/11 Truth Movement
by the No-757-at-the-Pentagon Theory

Monday, May 5, 2008

BOBBY BALSAMO CAPTION CONTEST

first posted April 20last updated 5/5 1 am

At least at the CIT Forum I’m allowed to read any posted attacks against me, unlike at some other forums where one must register their computer with the owners to even read it, which I refuse to do. Craig got mad about my ‘attack’ on a witness he’s about to publish. They offered no link to the actual attack, as they don’t link to ‘disinfo’ and banned me from posting there for being disinfo, of course, as dis-disinfo would be called by disinfo.

He again resorted to my “ego-driven obsession” admission, which I injected into his quote repertoire intentionally as a dye marker to gauge when he really has nothing else to offer. To prove I said this, he even finally offers a direct link to my 'disinfo.' I've seen it, and can document it. I make a bad point, they call me on it. He's wrong! Here's why. Then I consider that, reformulate and hit back... and suddenly it's either a fluffed-up bluff, an accusation of incoherency (what? I couldn’t hear ya! What?) or failing even that, it’s the ego/obsession thing, or perhaps I’m an “operative” if I’m dealing with Aldo.

I was hoping to keep the kid out of all this, and I had a feeling of dread one night recently when I realized I had still been logged into his account when responding to one of Rob’s lying posts on my video page. I hoped he'd be mature enough to leave that alone, but got myself worked up worrying about it for reasons I can’t fully explain, and can’t expect Rob to understand. So of course he passed the link on to CIT who make an animated gif of me where Nick coaxed me to be in one his shorts – getting hit in the head with a ball of clay and falling down like a dork in my messy kitchen. They captioned this with witty lines about me being deceptive and knocked over by CIT’s evidence and shit like that. I chuckled a bit despite myself. They all had a great time, not playin, making fun of my hair and skinniness, whatever. [eh, see them there] Hahaha! I look like dork in my messy kitchen! This is okay since I did this earlier for CIT using Ranke's public picture: But for my own reasons, I had really been hoping to keep Nick out of this, at least by name, but too late now. What pissed me off most was when Rob, probably belligerent drunk, asked “I wonder if that "Nick" kid was the same "Nick" we were arguing with last year on ATS.” After I had asked him to not drag the kid into it, he said “Adam.. YOU brought the kid into this by having him post on the net (if in fact it was the same Nick. Going by his replies, it sure seemed like a 10 yr old).” [emph mine] Yes Rob. Last year when he was nine I had him argue with you online. He’s a smart kid, just not smart enough to use a screen name other than his own. I brought it down on us. For some reason this whole thing really pissed me off. I told him if we were in the same room I’d punch him in the face. I’m sure he’d win the fight, but still… update 4/22 nick 7261 argues fine, this is just another insult. perhaps little nick could argue rob down, i dunno, but big nick did well - he was over-zealous and sometimes stupidly wrong, but really smart and biting at moments too.

Rob did correctly point out that it was never top-secret, that “you can scroll through "related videos" on the right margin of your "CausticLogic" videos and find "AdamSonOfLars" and vice versa.” Yes, I never liked that and that’s my fault - but it was somehow never a problem until a couple days after that stupid slip that gave him this opportunity to do some accidental op research. So you got your funny pictures, and whatever else. Account closed, new one if there is will be firmly separated and any further drawing in of my personal life and family into this - should be avoided for many reasons. Harassers for 911 truth doesn't have the same ring...

Stick to the issues please Rob. Still no explanation for what you meant by all those cherries I made that pie out of. Still no (public) correction to your patently ridiculous G-force calcs based on an irrelevant thought exercise. Nothing beyond the word of a FDR salesman that that wrong data is 1 sec or less from the wall, tho we hear you have more evidence somewhere. And how about that airfones thing? You can’t get your own shit together yet you can always find time to sling more insults. Oh, and to go enjoy your water sports. I mean, I could go off on that stupid picture you slapped me with of your lying fat ass on that waterskiing adventure, sucking up the $$$ that suckers keep sending you for DVDs and barbecue aprons, but that would be side-stepping the issues and engaging in childish personal attacks on your motives and appearance.

But while we all wait for updates and/or admissions, this will help while away the time. First, I’ll let anyone else decide what to put in this balloon. Submit entries in comments section below. I’ll add my own later. Winners will be posted, and recieve nothing more. Then I can call it even and move on to you continuing to ignore and downplay your own lies and not-quite-lies as I finally stop bothering "holding your hand" and trying to walk you towards a more truthful path.---update 4/22 I’m less angry now - my girlfriend thinks it's not such a big deal... she's more upset that i deleted the page. I’m new to the sorta-parent thing and was trying a bit too hard with the 'protective' thing. Also Craig, thanks for the tips. you may just be better at parenting advice than at running an 'investigation.' keep trying and you may find your calling. update 5/5: In fact I have Rob to thank for helping me realize I don't want video accounts tangled and there''s no way it seems if they're even looked at on the same computer. So I'm deleting my Youtube videos and not watching others. Also, the contest is decided after I received Rob's entry as well (see comments below). This is the winner.

Haha! Thanks, 'Yoda'. I'm feeling better now. This was cathartic, and that entry just blew off the last of the steam. I did the gliding one, btw. The first one isn't so much balloon material as addenda to the logo, or perhaps for a photoshopped group picture. Meh! they're right about a couple things, as you know...

I didn’t feel like approving this whole turd in one chunk and then trying to down it in one flush. So here it is in RB and AL format, already broken up and flushable. ---RB: How about.."My other 'jet' is a boat!"and then post this picture of my boat which is pulling me...http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/myphotos1960/screens/frontview.jpg

AL: Last entry I was waiting on, and the winner will be decided by me ten minutes ago. Not this one, clever as it is, it doesn’t have the effect I was looking for. Nice boat tho. Why mention it? Ah…

RB: Adam, the above is what happens when you educate yourself for a decent occupation/career. Since then, health issues (and the fact im a cancer survivor) have grounded me temporarily (my choice, not by the FAA) and now im running P4T is my full time job. If you think we/i are/am accumulating more income to support the organization, along with boats and bike, than i made as a full time line pilot, you are truly as delusional as you appear and behave.The boat has been sold as well as my Harley (http://www.myspace.com/johndoexpt)before i even started my 9/11 research in May 2006. But then again, you'll never know what its like to gain a career that pays well so you can enjoy some finer things in life. Isnt that right trash hauler...?

AL: I’m sorry that bad things have happened to you and you're making less money now. And I don’t care if you do something honest and worthwhile and make money off it. If you do good in fact you should, if possible, to keep yourself in business. If I could get paid for what I do anyway I would. Now this is just me, but if I ran the unit assigned to discredit the Truth movement, I’d be at your door to recruit you. They’d be fools not to, and you’d be a fool to turn them down, especially if your lies and distortions seem to come naturally anyway. So DVD sales, boat sales, disinfo paychecks, whatever. We all have to pay the bills. I find your apparent consumerist materialism annoying, but that’s neither here nor there.

RB: By the way, my waist was size 32 in that picture. But after seeing your picture, I suppose anyone with any amount of muscle on their bones looks like a "fat ass" to you.

AL: Neat. Truthfully you look fine and fit, and good for you. I really don’t care what the hell you look like - you could be a crippled obese weakling with three tits and it don’t matter to what you have to say. I was just hoping to hit you in an insecurity spot of an aging man who likely hates himself deeply. It was an immature move, and I’m not as good at it as some. In fact I’d never dream of making stupid comments about peoples’ appearance or low income or other such irrelevant issues all on my own. It’s a learned behavior, and you know from where, dickwad.

RB: Also, please source the quote of me calling Ted "Goebbels" or admit you lie. I notice you dont source any of my quotes. I dont blame you. It will readily expose your lies.

AL: I’ll do neither. It was an audio review I didn’t source at the time. I wish I had but I’m not spending hours looking for it and listening to you spin your BS webs again and again to find it. Paraphrase as I recall it: “yeah, he’s not answering any questions, this lopat… lopiat…. Yeah, he’s like the Joseph Goebbels of the NTSB.” This is how I honestly recall it sounding, soft-quotes used. No lies intended, as always. And as always, you take the chance to call anything remotely mistaken a “lie.” That’s not quite a lie on your part, but very deceptive.

And as far as not sourcing your quotes ever, that is a bold-faced lie since I suspect what got you so pissed is that I sourced every single quote here [ http://frustratingfraud.blogspot.com/2008/04/cherry-pie-from-robs-orchard.html ], which pretty much verifies you as a liar about ‘north plot data.’ And how about I “refused to contact the NTSB”? Honest oversight or lie? And this being after "...he accused us of fabricating the animation.” Please cite this 'accusation.' This quote was cited at the thread where I metioned the Goebbels quote, so why don’t YOU, as the one with issues here, expose my “lies” yourself by setting me straight with a comment there? I doubt it will appear.

RB: Get any hits today besides me? lol

AL: Goddamn that’s funny. You sure lol a lot for a serious truth-seeker type. I don’t have a hit counter, but probably a few dozen, a hundred, 412? Why the fuck do you care? Playing more immature “I’m more popular than you” junior high games?

RB: I dont suppose you will approve this comment. So i'll copy it to one of the links you have through to CIT.

AL: Not immediately or on your terms alone, since I don’t owe you anything. Yea, I do rpovide some one-way streets to CIT land and hope the reade can get back home by memory. Why are they so reticent to link to my “greasy-haired” “disinfo” if it’s so bad? I link to them, since they make the case for me unaided half the time.

RB: I think this is the first time i have ever read a full blog entry from Adam. Its comic gold.

AL: Yeah, like the part where that dishonest piece of shit Bobby Balsamo dragged my girlfriend’s ten-year old son into the fray by name and accused me of having him debate him online last year. Not really ha ha funny, but some ridiculous antics from someone who claims to be an honest researcher on a high-minded mission of truth and justice for the victims, etc... Keep on not reading. I’m just a janitor. Please ignore, that’s what we’re good at, right?

I can't imagine he's making much this way, officially anyway. He's probably motivated by something else, honest belief in the value of his non-theories? A twisted desire to prank people? Perhaps some $$$ we don't know about? Again, I can't say what it is, but sane AND honest it is clearly not.

If I thought he was nuts I'd have more sympathy. I don't think it's that.

Nuts is the only way I can describe someone who lies pathologically, makes personal attacks on anyone who disagrees with him, and makes threats like he does. We should all be happy he no longer works as a pilot.

Yeah I've seen that... maybe it just a Balsamo fan set on turbo for enthusiasm and servility, but methinks a sock, and he doesn't even care how many holes it has. Just an elastic band around the wrist, really, with Bobby's recognizably porcine hand yakking away as if it were covered...

Mine too I guess... Not that I was sure it was actually him, or that it mattered. The way he repeated the Pfffft critiques, points, and even words- either a sock puppet or just a fan on turbo-mode with the copy and paste functions. The puppet charge still stands tho as valid. the puppet is not the puppeteer – he’s the one with the pupeteer’s hand up his ass. How’s it feel Turbofan?

Listening to Bobby's fixation on material possesions and appearances he strikes a bit vain and shallow. Must have hurt to sell his toys. Since he moved back to NY I'm going to guess he did it for financial reasons. In other words P4T is not bringing enough money and he's moved back in with family.

The Frustration Ends Here... Or Starts, Depending...

"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers."- Thomas Pynchon, Jr.

"The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments."- Friedrich Nietzsche, The Gay Science, section 191

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The "9/11 Truth" scene has made major inroads on the mainstream American psyche in the last two years. A record number of people now believe the government, at best, allowed the attacks to occur. Personally, I'm convinced the kernel of this is the same deep-seated suspicion I and many others have felt since that fateful morning. But the reason it's coming out in such a flood now has numerous explanations, one of which is the cumulative effect of various alternate theories, most notably the strain spread via the video Loose Change.---It is my opinion that these arguments have swelled the movement for all the wrong reasons. The “hard proof” crowd have claimed to find literally hundreds of “smoking gun” clues left laying out in the open. While some have real validity, many, on closer inspection, are fraudulent. Yet somehow the worst arguments get more air play and capture more attention and so the “Truth” movement has become dominated by the desire not to provide the most rational explanation but the one most opposite to the official story. Beyond providing endless distraction and requiring endless de-bunking (and they keep coming back!), this approach alienates intelligent skeptics, whom we need on our side.---It's not for me to say who has intentionally misled and who is simply wrong, but herein I hope to help break the spell of one of their key arguments – no big Boeing jet hit the Pentagon on 9/11 - in hopes of getting some people off that train before it crashes for good. Luckily others have gone before me, and this once crowded carriage is steadily emptying. Through careful research, I have found as have others that almost all evidence points clearly to a 757 as the attack vehicle, piloted by whatever means, and in the process have exposed a long thread of apparent disinformation running from 9/11 to the present and continuing despite all evidence to the current day.

---Truth is a road, not a destination, and it's much safer to walk.---Please feel free to leave comments. I hope I've convinced, provoked, or otherwise effected people with my words here and would love to see any feedback, positive or negative. You can post anonmymously.---Words about The Frustrating Fraud and its author:

"This site [...] does what few do -- take on the Pentagon no-plane/no-jetliner theory head-on and expose the errors of those promoting it."

"[Y]ou’ve done a nice job on continuing to gather facts and reality based information about the Pentagon attack. Some of the comments gave me a laugh or two as well. You’ve accomplished far more in the past couple years in trying to separate facts from fiction than I ever did with that giant 1.5 million+ reads thread! - "Cat Herder" via e-mail

"Caustic Logic made a sad attempt to neutralize our info by casting doubt on us personally. It's pathetic and obvious. And he's a bad writer too. It's like he is a cointelpro flunkie but he keeps trying!"- Craig Ranke

"People like you and Jim Hoffman are dangerous to the truth. You will calmly suggest irrational suggestions in order that you mold the mind of the reader."- Aldo Marquis

"CL, we know you will never amount to anything more than a trash collecting janitor [...] is there some sort of sanitation website where we can check your credentials as a trash throwin janitor?"- Rob Balsamo/John Doe X