edocsil wrote:Can't win? Cult would have a majority? might take a day, but it's GG.

I was under the impression that the whole town had to be taken over by the cult in order to let it fulfil its win condition, so same idea as an SK. (except that it may ignore the mafia.)

Regardless if they overrun the twon, as soon as they hit a majority, town and scum cannot prevent it.

For arguments sake, if cult has 5 now and the rest of us are town, if we lynch a cult, then there are 4 cult at night. they recruit one, now there are 5. They have a majority and won't lynch any of their own, so they win.

Now if there are 4 cult and some even split of scum and town, like 2 and 4 respectively. If we lynch scum, then there is one scum left, and CL recruits. Mafia shoot cult at night. This leaves 4 Cult, 1 scum, and 3 town, we're still just barely hanging on, but won't get a lynch in the day. Scum shoots Cult at night, CL recruits, now there are 4 cult, 2 town, and 1 scum. Lylo. endgame. Cult can recruit to win.

So, actually, now that I really think about this, the CL must have been role blocked one night already or we would have already lost. Let's revisit the list of people roleblocked, and try to nail the CL down. The recruiting phase is really what puts us at a disadvantage.

So since I blocked Aage n4, Saf is not the CLSince He blocked me N3, LoVo is not the CL (and lends more credence to his town claim in my book)So that really leaves a list of two people alive that could be the CL, the two people alive from our combined D1 and D2 lynches - SHAGGY AND STRIKE/HIPPO

So now, Aage and I are both role blockers, and we both should target these guys, if they survive the lynch. I am of the impression that I shouldUNVOTE VOTE SHAGGY

If we can lynch him, Scum can shoot hippo/strike and we are back rolling on this game like Cult never happened. MAfia and Town can stop working together and go back to fighting each other.The numbers have to work because the CL HAD TO HAVE BEEN ROLEBLOCKED!

It is now Twilight. I'm dead tired from work right now and will count votes again later today, but offhand I don't believe we obtained the votes necessary for a lynch. You may start sending in your night actions.

Yeah, we can talk but the lynchee (or is that lychee - not that's for desert (not dessert) - English is such a confusing language) cannot. Anyway the math is based on forceability ... if the losing team cannot stop a day lynch or a night kill then the winning team need not play out the next day.

Stop the talking and get the actions in please guys You have until Wednesday morning at this time(48 hours) although if you manage to get them in before I can check the actions I will still accept them.

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Stop the talking and get the actions in please guys You have until Wednesday morning at this time(48 hours) although if you manage to get them in before I can check the actions I will still accept them.

are you waiting on twilight actions...or did you just actually forget the night scene?

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Stop the talking and get the actions in please guys You have until Wednesday morning at this time(48 hours) although if you manage to get them in before I can check the actions I will still accept them.

are you waiting on twilight actions...or did you just actually forget the night scene?

4. This game is meant to be confusing and absurd, if you play assuming the game is balanced you may end up screwing yourself over although my games usually are pretty balanced..

... Based on Sam's logic of yesterday I tried to kill Shaggy but nothing happened. I can only surpise that DJ swapped himself with Shaggy and that DJ was jailed meaning my kill didn't work. Toss up who is worse, DJ or Shaggy but I vote Shaggy as that seems the best answer. Shaggy must be the CL. My pick is we get rid of Shaggy and town can coast to the end.

I'd also like to hear everyone's thoughts on me not using my nightkill again until DJ is lynched tomorrow (if at all from this point on).

Hippo, my action was to nurse shaggy, which protects and role blocks him. That's why your night action didn't go off. Had I known, I think I may not have done that, but I didn't have my revelation until too late.

Saf, what was the result of your night action? This was contingent on you getting results.

aage wrote:If Shaggy was protected and Hippo did try to kill him I don't think the scene would have said that no shots were fired.

Hippo, what role are you again? Please, no one accuse me of skimming, I just think it will be easier for me to have him tell me. Especially if he is going to be on in the next 12 hours. I f I don't hear from him, I will go back and look it up.

Aage, is hippo lying? While normally I would assume this based on your statement, I don't want to race to conclusions.

Also, as most of the remaining players know, I feel that we are close to lylo. So, I think we have to hit cult or scum with each lynch.

Also, did our Leader, Mr. L, the governor prevent anything last night? I may be confused about his role right now, but he can prevent a kill right? Or maybe just a lynch?

At this point, players, we need to be very forthcoming about our night actions.

Pretty clear cut Roleblock. We have killed what, 1 scum? Unlikely that none of them could be bothered to submit a kill. What I want to know is why isn't it already game over. It should be, unless the Cl got blocked.

edocsil wrote:Pretty clear cut Roleblock. We have killed what, 1 scum? Unlikely that none of them could be bothered to submit a kill. What I want to know is why isn't it already game over. It should be, unless the Cl got blocked.

Between Aage and I, we have been role blocking people. I believe that the game would be over if we haven't roleblocked someone. I went through this analysis on the last post of the previous game day (not accusing you of skimming). I had such a strong feeling that I changed my vote last minute. Because we couldn't lynch Shaggy, I roleblocked him. I think that the game would be over if we haven't roleblocked the CL twice, so the only guy that I know that has been role blocked twice is shaggy. So I firmly believe he is the cult leader.

Aage also roleblocked DJ, but I don't think DJ is the CL because if he were, game would be over.

So I just want to get as many night actions in and give one final analysis before I actually place my vote on Shaggy for today. We hit CL, Town and Mafia have a shot. I have to say Mafia has a shot because too because we need them to get on board with a lynch in order for it to carry. We have to get 6 votes to lynch and that means that EVERY NON CULT has to agree to lynch one person.