Tuesday, May 27, 2008

ISRA Looking for Assistance

Members of the Illinois State Rifle Association have contacted us looking some help:

I'm a member of the ISRA and also one of the people involved in the planning of a Pro 2A rally in Chicago in July.

The process is far enough along that we're contacting groups and individuals that might be interested in speaking at the rally. The fact retired CPD officers are denied the right to carry a weapon came up in the last conference call we had and it was suggested that I contact you regarding the possibility of having some retired officers speak at the rally if they were interested. If you know of anybody who might be interested I'd appreciate it if you would let them know and pass along my email so they can get in touch with me.

Any consideration or assistance you could give to this idea would be greatly appreciated. While the ISRA can't give you a fair contract, hopefully we can give you a louder voice in what's happening to your retired members in the city and state.

27 Comments:

retired cpd said...

We can't carry? Why did I spend that c-note in February and shoot in Rockford. IT'S FEDERAL LAW!!!Even Barack signed the bill.I would advise anyone carrying under 218 to be 100% right(not drunk and shoot an unknown stickupguy,etc),but da king(stut. prick) has nothing to say about it.......

Sounds like a good opportunity to call the mayor and aldermen on their bullshit concerning weapons in Chicago. Point out the hypocracy publicly and see if it gets into the Chicago media. I doubt it will, since they bow to Da Mayor.

Police union boss blasts 'double standard' on gun planOne set of rules for aldermen, one set for rest of us, he says

May 21, 2008)

BY FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter

Fraternal Order of Police President Mark Donahue today decried the "double standard" that prompted Mayor Daley to endorse the idea of temporarily re-opening gun registration in Chicago after a request from Ald. Richard Mell (33rd).

"We have retired police officers who have a right to carry concealed weapons across the country, and they're being barred from registering their weapons in Chicago. We've taken one of these cases to Circuit Court. Dick Mell has taken his case to the City Council," the union president said. ....

A friend of mine is a retired CPD Sgt. He has qualified with the state police and carries a weapon. Recently he just purchased a new 5 shot hammerless S&W revolver but the city won't allow him to register it. From what I understand the FOP is going to take this to court and fight it because it will affect hundreds of retired officers. For now you had better purchase and register any handgun you will carry when you retire while you are active duty. Just another example of how little Richie does whatever he wants even if there is a federal law that says we can carry when retired. I say that the federal law should be ammended to read that all retirees are exempt from any local laws requiring registration.

You CAN NOT carry a gun if your a retired po in the city of chicago.Unknown city ordanace covers this and you can thank Daley.If caught you will be pinched.The powers that be will make an example of you to be sure.BTW-you must carry a concealed carry badge and id cards when out of state and you better have personal liability insurance and a lawyer on retainer.You will be hauled into criminal and civil court with out a doubt.Keep believing that your safe but your realy not.Illegals have free rein here but you good citizen are F'ed

The ISRA is a very good organization and I would encourage all officers to join it. I would also encourage all retired officers to move out and leave this rotten city. Why would any of us want to stay?

Here's a small loophole. Let say you are working security, even part time and they require you to have your own weapon, that weapon is exempt from city registration even if you live in Chicago. Soooooo, get a job part time working security and you are exempt. This way you are still covered under HB218

As it stands right now, the City will never, ever, allow a retiree to register a new/used/replacement weapon. I have one and only one that replaced my malfunctioning 38 year old revolver. You can only reregister the one you left the job with. Makes no sense. After 30years, I wasn't to surprised. I fully comply with HR218.

I lost on appeal at Administrative Hearing and the next date up on appeal to that is in Circuit Court is 8/1.

I'll let you know.

Just a retiree trying to do the right thing......

P.S. And don't tell me to move or just put it in my pocket. That's my call.

"You CAN NOT carry a gun if your a retired po in the city of chicago.Unknown city ordanace covers this and you can thank Daley.If caught you will be pinched.The powers that be will make an example of you to be sure.BTW-you must carry a concealed carry badge and id cards when out of state and you better have personal liability insurance and a lawyer on retainer.You will be hauled into criminal and civil court with out a doubt.Keep believing that your safe but your realy not.Illegals have free rein here but you good citizen are F'ed"

5/27/2008 10:02:00 AM

Wrong! Retired coppers CAN legally carry in Chicago, as long as they have their issued photo ID identifying them as a retired law enforcement officer, and have proof that they qualified with their weapon within the last 12 months. Federal law supersedes state law and city ordinances.

From HR218:`Sec. 926C. Carrying of concealed firearms by qualified retired law enforcement officers

(a) Notwithstanding any other provision of the law of any State or any political subdivision thereof, an individual who is a qualified retired law enforcement officer and who is carrying the identification required by subsection (d) may carry a concealed firearm that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce, subject to subsection (b).

Cops who qualify under HB 218 may legally carry a firearm but are still subject to registration requirements if they live in the city of Chicago. The only exception is licensed private investigators, they are exempt from handgun registration.

Bottom line: if you're a copper who qualifies, you cannot be arrested for UUW, but if you don't register your gun, you can be arrested for failure to register.

Master John said "thanks anyway". He's in his "low profile" mode these days.

However, if agent(s)of the City of Chicago attempt(s) to violate my master's rights under the Second, Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments to the Constitution as well as HR 218 and the FOID Act (or any combination thereof), he has promised me that he would never resist. He'd probably even smile and laugh.

With me by his side, he feels so safe in Chicago that he has no need to be armed.

"what cop in his right mind would lock up a retired po for carrying a loaded gun in this shit city, please mayor get a clue we dont care"-anon.

Maybe the same cop that enforces unconstitutional law against every other citizen? And why not? Cops are citizens, not super citizens, not ubermenschen, citizens.

Now, aren't you ashamed that you cry because you now must take the same risks as everybody else? Oh horrors!

Good enough for me, it's damn sure good enough for you. If it isn't good enough for you , it isn't good enough for me. If you ever harbored any illusion to the contrary, either your intelligence or your integrity or both , of necessity, must be suspect.

Here's a small loophole. Let say you are working security, even part time and they require you to have your own weapon, that weapon is exempt from city registration even if you live in Chicago. Soooooo, get a job part time working security and you are exempt. This way you are still covered under HB218

5/27/2008 03:23:00

If i remember correctly this is from a lawsuit brought to the city of chicago for a case where 2 people were arrested in chicago for having their weapons with them while performing process work and were not residents of city of chicago

Of course if you try and register for the hell of it they will say no and will not give any formal paperwork on above actions

For those of us that can think, hate the double standard that exists in this city and support the Constitution in it's entirety, specifically the 2nd amendment,I say let's get something that would identify us a CPD Officers, say a T shirt or a bb cap and march with those citizens that are not Police Officers as they try to take back this city from the demothugs that run it. Show daley and the rest of the world that not all of us support this little tyrant, that some of us believe in the Constitution.