As the title says--- our good friends at EAS, local Orange County BMW tuner, parts, and mod specialist dyno'd a few of my cars and member VDubpower's car (E63TT). As a BMW owner (5 M's) they are my "go to" down here in So Cal.

All three cars were done on different days but the conditions were relatively similar. Tom, co owner, was kind enough to do an overlay of the 3 cars for perspective. Keep in mind that the cars being done on different days will yield different results but arguably they wont differ too much. I thought it would be cool to see where the sweet spots are on each car vs each other. I have had 2 M157 PP engines so I know what they are capable of but with all due respect stock vs stock my M5 beats the CLS and E63TT's that I had. My Black is lower on the power list but weighs less and that makes up the gap.

This first dyno sheet shows the power with mph vs rpm's. Check out the Black's power (hp) curve vs the M5--- similar in shape just lower on the spectrum. Thanks again to Tom and team at EAS (European Auto Source). These are all SAE corrected numbers.

Wow that e63 is a monster in the torque department. I find it funny they rate the black series at 510hp and the m5 at 560hp, yet the m5 is coming out at over 86whp more. Dang vic your m5 is pushing over 650hp at the flymark, with no tune!

Holy moly the M5 is powerful. Not surprised the higher displacement benz makes more outright torque, but the M5 holds its torque for longer. I wonder if the S63tü is near its limits in stock form because it seems like tuners are able to extract more from the M157 easily than the S63Tü. Still amazing what only 4.4 liters was able to do against the big boys!

@Vic- Oh ok, I didn't know if that was calculated with drivetrain loss or no. But still that is impressive, your definitely over the 600 mark.

@Wisesoul- I agree but I don't know if we can make the call yet, the car really has only been on US soil for 4-5 months. They seem to keep finding more gains in the M157 and its been out for a while now. I guess time will tell.

Holy moly the M5 is powerful. Not surprised the higher displacement benz makes more outright torque, but the M5 holds its torque for longer. I wonder if the S63tü is near its limits in stock form because it seems like tuners are able to extract more from the M157 easily than the S63Tü. Still amazing what only 4.4 liters was able to do against the big boys!

Yeah, it does seem that BMW is pushing their powerplant harder from factory to be at current segment power levels. I think time will tell the M157 does have more tuning potential. Either way both cars are very quick.

As the title says--- our good friends at EAS, local Orange County BMW tuner, parts, and mod specialist dyno'd a few of my cars and member VDubpower's car (E63TT). As a BMW owner (5 M's) they are my "go to" down here in So Cal.

All three cars were done on different days but the conditions were relatively similar. Tom, co owner, was kind enough to do an overlay of the 3 cars for perspective. Keep in mind that the cars being done on different days will yield different results but arguably they wont differ too much. I thought it would be cool to see where the sweet spots are on each car vs each other. I have had 2 M157 PP engines so I know what they are capable of but with all due respect stock vs stock my M5 beats the CLS and E63TT's that I had. My Black is lower on the power list but weighs less and that makes up the gap.

This first dyno sheet shows the power with mph vs rpm's. Check out the Black's power (hp) curve vs the M5--- similar in shape just lower on the spectrum. Thanks again to Tom and team at EAS (European Auto Source). These are all SAE corrected numbers.

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I'm not sure how you figure that when we havent seen what the new m3 will bring... and based on history.

MB always had MUCH more torque and Audi always used turbocharging and AWD. BMW was rarely fastest in the straight line, but they knew that sport car, as opposed to the race car, had to be most enjoyable, not necessarily fastest. BMW as of late are not that sharp, and MB are more fun to drive plus its torque give more usable and effortless performance.

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Originally Posted by nbennettksu

What happened in dtm? Didn't audi use awd? and... m3 > * in dtm.

NO! DTM cars are more or less the same. RWD, NA 4l V8. Plus with Audi's and MB's consent they changed the rules and each gave BMW one great driver to ALLOW BMW to be competitive in 2012 DTM. All for the sake of sport. I wish F1 and WRC were like that.