>>101408416>>101408424>>101408450>>101408498
Why did the scene have to exist? I see no particular reason another than the setup for the end or to show that Shinji had some problems with himself? Am I missing something here?

>>101408680
I can't wait until you throw the "muh real girl" tantrum in order to prove just how flawless Asuka is.
I swear to fuck, Asukafags are the most insufferable and defensive faggots I've ever encountered.

>>101408736>Anno takes notice of Asumari's presence in the facebase, finds it cute.>Decides do add a new plot to 4.0 involving both girls>Turns out Mari was part of the scheming of the unit 03 incident>Turns out she was just using Asuka all this time>This results in gruesome deaths for both sides

>>101409972
Damn, I really felt sorry for Asuka during all the flashbacks to her fucked up childhood.
I'll never understand why people like to talk shit about Eva girls so much, just because it's not their girl of choice.

Here's how Evangelion works:
01. Make up an entirely unlikeable cast
02. Call the worst of them Rei
03. Make one perfect character and call her Asuka
04. Come up with badass designs for your mechs
05. Make some plot twists (e.g. you mechs maybe aren't even mechs after all)
06. Stretch out scenes to make them look deep and shit
07. Run out of money halfway through the show
08. Throw in some religious shit to make it feel deep and mysterious
09. Disappoint everybody with the ending but hint at some deeper meaning
10. Have faggots search for this non exsistant deeper meaning for years and literally print cash with overpriced merch

>>101411509
No need to get hostile. Asuka being an emotional wreck is just part of her character. Just like Shinji. And how Rei doesn't know how to deal with or express her emotions. I like Asuka as a character, but she is a very flawed person and if you're unwilling to see that, then there's no hope for you.>>101411571
Bingo. Shinji would run away from people to keep them at a distance, Asuka would actively push them away.

>>101411161
You didn't notice how she has a massive complex about not wanting to be a "doll" which is the driving force behibd her overblown ego and inability to allow herself to show vulnerability to others?

>>101411798
Anon, you're fighting this way too hard and making yourself look like YOU want some perfect girl that doesn't exist. Asuka is very much like a real teenage girl. Emotional issues and all.
And stop with the "Hurr durr Rei" thing. I'm not the one bringing her up except to point out she has her own mess of emotionally stunted issues.

Hey /a/ watched NGE recently, would you understand if I didn't like it that much?
Is it possible that it was awesome back then, but nothing special nowadays?
There is also so much I still don't know and 25/26 bored me too death, I mean generally speaking characters like shinji suck, but they usually don't take 26 episodes to stop being a fucking faggot.

Oh and what happens in the end?
I guess you can't tell me why he strangles asuka and what happened to the world in the end right?

Why is Adam the first angel if they found Lilith before?
Why is Lilith the second angel if she isn't an angel at all?
Where did they find her and why did no one ever mention her?
Did the third impact happend cause adam and rei aka the lilith clone fused? Does that mean a clone can work like the original?

>>101412352>I mean generally speaking characters like shinji suck, but they usually don't take 26 episodes to stop being a fucking faggot.

Just replace Shinji with a generic cute moe girl and it all starts making sense.
He doesn't stop being a fucking faggot because he is a fucking faggot. He's literally a girl who happens to have a dick.

>>101412585
But that's not truth. There are countless kids nowadays with introvert issues.
Think that your mother got killed on an experiment and your dad abandoned you. Why can't you think like a human being?

>>101411704
You have a point, but I don't think Asuka rejects people to avoid them from suffering; she projects part of her insecurities against them to compensate herself, as another Anon said before.

>>101412504>Adam landed on earth first. Lilith was never meant to land on earth, she crash-landed on earth accidentally and this caused Adam to go into stasis mode with his lance.>everyone is angles>they found her in the geofront, aka the black moon.>yes. But a clone can only work like the original if it has Lilith's soul. If it has no soul at all then it's just a soulless useless doll.

>>101412740>contributed very little
What is the first real friend who doesn't care about what you look like, what you do, what you like, why you do, etc. And then you have to choose between saving humanity(which has people who actually DON'T care about you) and saving your first real friend and consequently killing all the human race who didn't care?
Fuck I got baited so hard.

>>101412751
I assume you don't see real life as a whole do you? People doing drugs at the age of 9, killing people at 12, getting an alcoholic father that raised you poorly.
Now you have the example of a kid who is completely isolated from love for more than 5 years.
Fuck you and your stupidity

>>101413487
Rei is now literally albino Kamina, Asuka speaks with a pirate accent and drinks rum all day, Kaworu is now a sexual deviant and on top of all that they add a loli pilot called Marye (pic related)
Stay away from it.

>>101413974
Only clue we have is when she gives Shinji his walkman back it has another track on it and Kaworu does the same thing. Who knows what significance it had, it might not even be relevant to the story.

>>101414322
Father/Daughter didn't make me laugh. For you see there is a general joke that shinji acts like a girl would. So by substituting him in the position that a woman takes. My simple image takes on a whole new comedy perspective.

>>101407853>I hate it when people post images like yours where rei is completely out of character.
I hate retards like you who are so out of touch with the real world you think that's out of character.

>>101415458>4.0 deals with the timeskip>Is literally the best thing ever done with Evangelion, makes everything else looks silly>Except for one detail, it ends as Asuka and Mari goes to space. The preview of the next episode is 3.0 scenes.>Literally no word is said about what happens after 3.0's end, Anno is never seen again.

I finally got my shit together and watched Eva, I expected it to be fantastic.
And what I got was stupid contrived bullshit with some religious names and symbols here and there. It isn't deep, it isn't meaningful, it's just really mediocre writing. You can create crazy theories about anything if you try hard enough.
So, a question to you. Is Eva deep or DEEP for you guys?

>>101417791
I'm not baiting, I'm legitimately curious. Nothing qualifies as groundbreaking or even good writing in Eva aside from the characters which were explored quite deeply as >>101417752 pointed out.

>>101417911
This is bs. Anno never said anything like that.
The religious is actually pretty damn deep if you look into it. It's just based on more Kabbalah and Gnosticism then typical biblical judeo-christian mythology.

>>101418094
Not in the US it wasn't.
Also it was an original IP that took inspiration from mecha, not an anime adaptation.
And Hollywood loves their adaptations for quick-easy money. Just look at cape flick adaptations.

>>101418176>Because Christianity is an uncommon religion in Japan we thought it would be mysterious. None of the staff who worked on Eva are Christians. There is no actual Christian meaning to the show, we just thought the visual symbols of Christianity look cool.
Not Anno himself, but Kazuya Tsurumaki (assistant director) said this exact thing on Otakon 2001.
So, yeah. Deep my ass.

>>101417664
No it isn't "deep" in that sense of the word. There's a story behind the whole thing and the show makes it a point to do things like mention key plot devices once and never bring it up again. It tries to tell a story you can piece together on your own but it kind of fails in that regard since everyone who watches it for the first time barely understands why anything was happening in the first place.

Other than that, the sections dealing with the character's inner trauma are hit or miss depending on what kind of person you are. Some people think it's garbage while others feel connected and can relate to thoughts they have about themselves.

Then you've got the budget problems and long drawn out scenes to save money and you've got something thats objectively a 6/10 - 7/10 but it's got a cult following just for treading new ground and at least attempting to be interesting. The whole thing is pretty much love it or hate it which is why you have so many people that swear its a masterpiece and an equal amount of people who vehemently despise it and everyone who likes it.

>>101417664
It's got some neat subtext, but it isn't a voyage to trip out city the same way space oddysey or Country for old men is. Its messages are easy to understand, and the religious themes don't add much besides the scale of the story and the sense of mythology when it comes to the angels, much like how the bosses of house of the dead are named after tarot cards. The story is excellent, the characterization is some of the best i've ever seen, but it's also pretty clear they made it up as they went along.

>>101424527
2001 and No Country For Old Men are two of my favorite movies ever but I still think Eva is fantastic and so rich with subtext that I literally manage to discover new things every time I watch it.