[quote author=Grace23 link=topic=27782.msg803118#i love love love ian..but if ian wins over dan....it is only b/cuz this jury is bitter..ian played a ok game...jmo..not a amazing game ...dan played the amazing game, ok ..please dont hate me i you all..love, peace, butterflies, rainbows, rolling hills...beauitful waters ..to everyone here ..respect you all, just think dan, is the best of the bb players...and really should win..but i do not trust ian...he is a little villan..and could vote out dan if dan throws this hoh to him..go for the win dan..and take ian if you want..[/quote]

Grace23, I agree. Dan did play an amazing, dirty game. I also think Ian played a great game too but not quite as brilliant as Dan's. I'm glad my girl Brit realizes it.

I'll be ok if either Dan or Ian win. I'll be really pissed off if Dani wins. She would have been gone long ago if Dan hadn't coached her through the game. If she wins then it will truly be just about revenge of the jurists.

YIKES-- I just had a thought that's got me thinking--Didn't Ian say he wanted to be the villian? What if he thinks by getting Dan out-- that the jury members will all think he is both hero and villian. He kept saying over and over a while back-- to be the best you have to beat the best. I sure hope his plan isn't to pull a really fast one and actually not take Dan. Taking Dani

It think Ian will definitely be in the final 2. I think this because of Dan's speech.

If Ian doesnt win outright, Dan will throw it to him.

He spent FAR to much time putting her jury speech together. His choice of words made it clear that he believes it will be him and Ian in the final 2.

Nobody spends that much time practicing a jury speech with the goal of beating Ian in the vote. If he thought is would be he and Dani, his words would have been completely different. Not once did he practice any wording that would indicate he was thinking Dani would be in the final 2.

The final 2 will be Ian's decision. He may choose to take Dani, but I dont see it.

Both Dan and Ian are smart players and arent personal. Both know their best chance is against the other.

And the ONLY way Dan has a chance of winning is if Dani blames Ian for her eviction rather than blaming Dan.

Cant wait to see the look on Dani's face. I hope, if Dan throws the comp to Ian, that Ian calls Dan out on that in HIS jury speech. Will he the only chance he will have to get Dani's vote.

It think Ian will definitely be in the final 2. I think this because of Dan's speech.

If Ian doesnt win outright, Dan will throw it to him.

He spent FAR to much time putting her jury speech together. His choice of words made it clear that he believes it will be him and Ian in the final 2.

Nobody spends that much time practicing a jury speech with the goal of beating Ian in the vote. If he thought is would be he and Dani, his words would have been completely different. Not once did he practice any wording that would indicate he was thinking Dani would be in the final 2.

The final 2 will be Ian's decision. He may choose to take Dani, but I dont see it.

Both Dan and Ian are smart players and arent personal. Both know their best chance is against the other.

And the ONLY way Dan has a chance of winning is if Dani blames Ian for her eviction rather than blaming Dan.

Cant wait to see the look on Dani's face. I hope, if Dan throws the comp to Ian, that Ian calls Dan out on that in HIS jury speech. Will he the only chance he will have to get Dani's vote.

Just my opinion.

I just don't understand why anyone would throw an hoh at this point and put their fate in someone else's hands. But I heard Dan say just that the other night. I do hope its Dan and Ian in the end-- I feel like Dani got to the end because of Dan not her own game. Where definitely Ian and Dan played the game. Both deserve being there.

I always choose the finale night to post my one post of the year. Last year I was jumping off the sofa. This year I'm scratching my head. I can't say I hands down agree with Janelle that Dan is the best player ever (though he just may be) but for Ian, who Dan played the entire season, to win? Ummm. No! Nice is nice but this is BB. Sorry Ian, it's not because of you but rather CBS's lack of an ability to cast people that do know the game that i won't be watching any further. Btw. Thanks updaters. You rock!

He, and so many of his fans, were convinced that he is so good because he played such a ruthless game, lying, backstabbing, and made it to the f2.

What he, and his fans forgot, is that getting to the f2 is ONLY half of the game. The BEST players always consider the jury votes as they work their way through the season.

When even Jenn City voted to give the game to Ian, that should serve as the exclamation mark to the sentence "Be careful how you treat people on your way up, because you will pass them on the way down!"

Dan is a dispicable players. Openly admitted lying and swearing on holy things and that he left his morals at the door. Anyway, I am excited Ian won.

Final thought::I wish they would give America the chance to vote each season on the biggest idiot for that season. For me, that would go to Dani. Totally misted as you guys say. Anyway, I am looking forward to her post-finale interviews once she finds out how she was used the entire season!

Finally, thank you Texas Lady, Will and everyone else for updating us this year. It had to really be difficult this year and all of us so appreciated you guys and what you endured on our behalf!

I'm thinking the key word is "game". Big Brother is a GAME! People stab each other with swords, shoot each other and run from the police in video games all over the U.S. every day and nobody complains. Why? Because it's a game! I can't believe I'm seeing people prosecute him for his game play. It's a game! I've been watching this game since season one and Dan controlled this season better than any I have ever witnessed. He saved his behind multiple times and (much to my surprise) convinced people to do things i would have never imagined. He did what he had to do to stay in the game. He actually played the GAME! I will agree however that if you throw game out the window I could hate him but he was in the BB house and not on the streets on NY or LA.. The guy knows how to play this game. Dan should have won tonight. Hands down!

I did not say anything as stupid as that BB is a game of integrity and honesty.

I did say that BB is a game that involves good game play including lying and backstabbing BUT ONLY IN A WAY THAT DOESNT ALIENATE THE JURY VOTES.

Dan's approach to lying and backstabbing cost him the win. He was not sandbagged, he was not cheated. He just forgot the truth that the people he was running over each week were the same people that would decide whether he won or not.

A GREAT game player would have found the approach that left him in a position to win.

I did not say anything as stupid as that BB is a game of integrity and honesty.

I did say that BB is a game that involves good game play including lying and backstabbing BUT ONLY IN A WAY THAT DOESNT ALIENATE THE JURY VOTES.

Dan's approach to lying and backstabbing cost him the win. He was not sandbagged, he was not cheated. He just forgot the truth that the people he was running over each week were the same people that would decide whether he won or not.

A GREAT game player would have found the approach that left him in a position to win.

What else needs to be said?

Excellent point but can you honestly say that if he hadn't done what he did he wouldn't have been gone 4 weeks ago?

I can say i had no horse in this final 2....but i honestly think Dan had the votes until Dani asked Ian her question....that turned the votes towards Ian. I can't believe she still gave Dan her vote, at that point, you had to know that he threw those questions, and then Ian tells you flat out that Dan gave him his Grandfathers cross as security...what the heck else do you need to hear....oh yeah and on super pass Dani was told that Dan whispered to Shane that she was playing him the whole game. She was floored again. Honestly i know no one on here cared for Dani or Shane, but to be honest from the beginning to the reset to be 1 on 1 they could have went to the end, it's her fault they didn't, she is so dang gullable (sp) Well i am thrilled about one thing...my favorite won America's choice!!! I'm happy for Frank...and looks like Ashley and Frank are an item!! See you all next year....hugs!!

I am so happy that Ian won, just love that kid And I really loved Dani face lol, She didn't look like she had a good time tonight Still can't believe Frank won AC I would have thought Britney would of won it. Glad that Dan made it to the f2, he is a great player. Again thank you all the updaters, you all did a wonderful job

And especially glad that Satan dirty Dan was exposed by all to be the scumbag, lowlife, lying on a bible (not to mention his wife) dirtbag player that he is.

He is the worst of the worst when it comes to scum and I APPLAUD the jury for exposing him for the dirt that he is.

Karma is a bear Dan and it's biting you you-know-where.

And what a nice surprise, pleasant surprise to see Frank get fan favorite.

This horrible season all came together in the finale with a jury with good values and a respect for the game. Makes me kind of proud to be a member of the human race with these people in it who didn't give a win to such a bottom feeder.