I dig this mock. Its a little crazy, but things are bound to get shook up compared to what most mocks have right now. I think FLoyd has the potential to rise that high and I like that they have Werner and Moore dropping a bit. I don't hate either player, but they aren't top 5 guys.

Watson is a wildcard, I think he could sneak his way in after the combine, interviews etc.

Why do Raiders fans, whose team is desperate need of ANY defensive talent at any position, think they don't need a guy like Floyd (or Richardson)?

Yes, because the Raider fans here are saying they want to draft a WR instead of Sharrif Floyd.

That's just stupid. Most Raider fans here believe Floyd would fail with the Raiders and they need either an edge rusher like Moore/Jones/Mingo or a guy who will control the LOS like Star. The Raiders don't need an ultra-aggressive interior lineman, they need someone who will take up blockers. Especially as they move more to a 3-4 scheme.

Yes, because the Raider fans here are saying they want to draft a WR instead of Sharrif Floyd.

That's just stupid. Most Raider fans here believe Floyd would fail with the Raiders and they need either an edge rusher like Moore/Jones/Mingo or a guy who will control the LOS like Star. The Raiders don't need an ultra-aggressive interior lineman, they need someone who will take up blockers. Especially as they move more to a 3-4 scheme.

So you're saying you play exclusively 2-gap and have no need for someone who can penetrate from the inside on passing downs?

EDIT: I'm semi-seriously asking the first question and being obviously facetious with the second.

So you're saying you play exclusively 2-gap and have no need for someone who can penetrate from the inside on passing downs?

EDIT: I'm semi-seriously asking the first question and being obviously facetious with the second.

I'm saying that's all the Raiders have right now. Kelly, Seymour, Bryant and Houston all fill that role. The Raiders have absolutely no one who can fill that 2-gap role. That's why they were so absolutely horrid against the run. Every damn DT they have wanted to get up field every play.

I'm saying that's all the Raiders have right now. Kelly, Seymour, Bryant and Houston all fill that role. The Raiders have absolutely no one who can fill that 2-gap role. That's why they were so absolutely horrid against the run. Every damn DT they have wanted to get up field every play.

I was under the impression that Houston would continue to play end and none of those other guys are locks to be back.

2-gap run cloggers are usually not difficult to find and are rarely top picks.

I think the main problem with your D was scheme and discipline, similar to the Bucs two years ago.

Meh. But isnīt it pretty standard for a lot of the draftnik pundits from the bigger sites (NFL.com, ESPN and CBS) to put out these slightly more unconventional mocks early in the proces? Makes good sense to me. Put out a couple of "weird" mocks early, and if some of those picks actually happends come april, you can point out how you made a bold prediction two months ago..

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Ours without any professional scouting, ties to the league, or experiences in war rooms with current GMs and decision makers are the weird mocks, especially with how cookie cutter the hivemind make the in Freakin February and with well over half of them done with little or no film study on many of the prospects they mock.

Ours without any professional scouting, ties to the league, or experiences in war rooms with current GMs and decision makers are the weird mocks, especially with how cookie cutter the hivemind make the in Freakin February and with well over half of them done with little or no film study on many of the prospects they mock.

An ex scouts is not meh. Ours are meh.

The "Meh" part of my comment wasnt directed at the mock, but more the OPs reaction to it. I have no reason to think that Jeremiah doesnīt know what he is doing as a former scout.

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