When it comes to the Establishment, I think it would probably be fair to observe that Guido Fawkes is against it, and Paul Staines is already in collusion with it…..perhaps even a willing member. Again, you must look at the facts and decide for yourselves.

The trappings of elite wealth appear, by now, to be in abundance: his wife Orla owns at least two properties in London – a house in Clerkenwell and a flat in Wandsworth – while the couple are also understood to have a substantial place in County Wexford, as well as a holiday home in France. So if he succeeds in his avowed aim of smashing the UK’s established socio-political system, the New Order is unlikely to oppose property ownership. How is Paul making the money to hold up his end of the marriage?

As we’ve already seen, order-order.com is owned offshore – by Global and General Nominees (G&GN), a Nevis-registered firm. This effectively deters all but the most determined litigants, as those wanting to sue are required to deposit $25,000 in court before any libel action can even get off the ground.

In 2006, as his readership began to grow, Staines fairly astutely decided that there could be serious money in blogging about the money-grubbing antics of others. In a nutshell, he set up a media-sales company to ‘represent’ bloggers – or put another way, make money out of the Establishment. With fellow-founder Alex Hilton (also a journalist and blogger) he formed Messagespace.

G&GN is the majority shareholder in Messagespace’s owner EOS Online Media Ltd. Not entirely philanthropic, the media shop also sells space on Guido’s site – as well as for Hilton’s own Recess Monkey, and Iain Dale’s blog. The ‘about us’ page of the company’s website lists some notably radical libertarian clients, for example the Cooperative Bank, the Labour Party, the Liberal Democratic Party and the Conservative Party. Obviously, while Guido Fawkes rips into these corrupt, crypto-Soviet pillars of the Left, Paul Staines is delighted to take their money. So if his ruse to break the system from the inside succeeds, Staines will do himself out of a job on all fronts.

Even harder to understand is Paul choosing to go into business with Alex Hilton; for from the perspective of libertarian politics, Alex Hilton represents spawn of the Devil. He is the editor of Labourhome, and was until 2006 a Labour Councillor in Redbridge. In 2005 he lost Canterbury to the Tories, and is currently the prospective New Labour candidate for Chelsea & Fulham.

This dazzling political career led Wikipedia to note that Hilton ‘has been presented as a “grassroots political guru”’. And that may well be true, because Alex has since formed another company, Gamechanger. The site-blurb for this consultancy claims that ‘Game Changer is a one-stop campaign consultancy for public relations, media training, public affairs and digital engagement. We specialise in devising and implementing targeted and integrated campaigns that raise awareness and initiate change through the power of social networks.’So to summarise, far-Right and utterly committed anti-Establishment terrorist Paul Staines went into business with a member of the Government Party. A bloke who is now a candidate for that Party – as well as being an advisor about media training – that very media training which teaches politicians how to evade questions from the press, or lie. The same press whose ‘too cosy’ relationship with ghastly Establishment toadies Staines is at pains to excoriate. Alex Hilton left Messagespace not because Staines discovered the awful truth that he was a double-agent, but because the ever-tolerant Labour Party threatened to freeze Hilton out of the Left if he didn’t withdraw from all interests in EOS Online. It has been suggested to me that right-wing blogger Iain Dale has also taken an investment in EOS, but I’m unable to stand that up – and anyway he is largely tangential to the story. The only point at which he’s more centrally involved in the career of Paul Staines concerns their mutual interest in Lord Ashcroft. Staines and Dale are friends, and share (at the very least) some political views – plus a lot of business aims. The print magazine Total Politics launched by Iain Dale in 2008 is specifically aimed at the opinion-leading political Establishment. It is bankrolled by Lord Ashcroft, a man who probably represents (along with the Four Taxis for Hire) the major personification of corruption and undue monetary influence in contemporary British politics. Writing in his Guido Fawkes persona, Staines wrote on March 9th this year:‘For the avoidance of doubt, Guido’s blog is an editorially independent, for profit enterprise. If James Murdoch, the Barclay Brothers, Charlie Whelan or Michael Ashcroft want to buy Guido’s blog, he is open to offers. Until that day the editorial line of this blog is determined by Guido alone…’Amen to that. But here and there on order-order.com, a bit of Paul Staines keeps poking through the silly mask. He has a crack at Ashcroft, but in sympathy with the Tories rather than anger at The System:‘There is growing resentment in some quarters with Michael Ashcroft, the feeling is that his Lordship has unnecessarily made difficulties for the Tories by waiting till this late moment to come clean. There is also a concern that in deciding to sue, at this time, the Indy (over allegations of corruption) he is guaranteeing more bad headlines during the campaign.’It’s all a bit “I say there Mikey, play the white man old boy” rather than ‘Smash the System’. Overall, for a man so implacably opposed to the ruling elite to have so many friends and partners at the front of that top-drawer seems odd in the extreme. If, that is, you accept that he really is against the system…..as opposed to wanting to collapse this one – so he can dominate the new one.Which brings us neatly to the concluding part of this Slog Bonfire Day Special: what do we think Paul Staines wants to be after he tires of being Guido Fawkes?

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This used to be a good blog when it was Not Born Yesterday. Now it's increasingly irrelevant and today's diatribe of four posts attacking Guido Fawkes proves it beyond doubt. Listen Slogger – nobody gives a flying fuck. Guido's blog is amusing and, most of all, interesting and for you to spend all day writing boring crivel slagging him off reflects worse on you than your content does on him. Keep your vendettas to yourself and write something *interesting* like we used to find on NBY.

No one cares where Guido gets his money from. He could be Murdoch's secret lovechild for all I care. He's got to make a living and as long as his blog allows free speech and keeps up the satire then most folk will be happy. Keeping his blog offshore should help to make it harder to close down. That was a good move. I can think of about 6 blogs that I used to enjoy but were closed down due to harrassment / threats of court action etc

I've found todays blog posts incredibly interesting and very helpful for our Mothers for Justice research, after reading these last few posts we've been doing a little bit of digging as well, in particular, on the Kensington Institute, which was one of the two places which gave invitations to hold a lecture to the paedophile Richard Gardner, the American psychologist who invented Parental Alienation Syndrome. We have found out some new interesting stuff we didn't know before, so thank you NBY.

Come on John…get back to the real business…..I look forward daily to your usual blog offerings, casting light as they often do into some pretty dark corners….equally,whatever the background,Paul does likewise.Both essential reads…

Interesting stuff. A lot of what you've written is probably well known to GF's readers as it's quite easily found out (or he's self publicised it himself here and there). However you do ask some interesting questions about PS' aims.I've been a bit disappointed in the quantity of his outpourings recently. The quality isn't up to much either. There are the interesting snippets, but a lot are just funnies, one liners and self promotional stuff. Compared to your blog which has a higher quantity and a lot higher quality with obvious research behind yours.The one thing that puts me off his blog is the comments section. The tone is more in the gutter than gutter press, though that doesn't put me off, though it doesn't help the image of the blog. What is bad is its system doesn't cope with the sheer number of comments so it's nearly always impossible to read, and then given the quality of the comments it becomes a bit pointless attempting to.As to the other commenters who are giving up reading your blog or who think you are being jealous, thats their problem. If they have so much loyalty to a blog then they aren't being objective in their views. What you are doing to him is the same as to your other "targets". Why should his blog have any special immunity from criticism? I don't have any loyalty to any blog, I read libertarian, left wing and right wing ones. It helps to get an understanding of an issue to see it from both sides and to know if there are any vested interests clouding the story. And if a blog gives grief to others, then it better be able to take it. This goes for GF's blog as well as yours.

I think Dale's links with Ashcroft are far more interesting. Why does he bother to invest in a magazine that claims not to represent any one party and is in any case given to its core readership for nowt?