I started the Mac first. I was upgrading from 10.4 "Tiger" to 10.5 "Leopard". Mac is the "everything just works" platform. I did a straight upgrade on the Mac. When it was done an hour or so later, it would not boot. Came up to the grey screen with the Apple logo and then would shut down. I searched online and found someone else that had the same thing and solved it by doing an archive and install. That worked, an hour and a half later.

On my Linux Fedora box, I did a simple upgrade of the existing Fedora 7 to 8 install and 20 minutes later it was done. Everything was good after the reboot.

donoreo wrote:I started the Mac first. I was upgrading from 10.4 "Tiger" to 10.5 "Leopard". Mac is the "everything just works" platform. I did a straight upgrade on the Mac. When it was done an hour or so later, it would not boot. Came up to the grey screen with the Apple logo and then would shut down. I searched online and found someone else that had the same thing and solved it by doing an archive and install. That worked, an hour and a half later.

Actually, it has a funny side - if you have a cruel sense of humour like me. Imagine all the Apple fanchildren rushing to their nearest Apple shop on release day to buy their Leopard discs. They get home and start the upgrade, only to be confronted with a permanently-frozen piece of hardware and the Apple support line can't help, because they don't yet know what is going on. Several hours later, someone posts a howto for deleting the offending bits of software. But, shriek, horror , you have to open a terminal and - gasp - type in terminal commands. I doubt whether they've got over it yet.

But I'm glad Fedora behaved itself.

By the way - I'm putting off upgrading to Leopard until the new year. I'll let others discover other as-yet undiscovered bugs. Do keep us informed.

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spottedcat wrote:By the way - I'm putting off upgrading to Leopard until the new year. I'll let others discover other as-yet undiscovered bugs. Do keep us informed.

I'm way behind the times. I'm still running Panther on my Mac Mini. Or at least I was when I last turned it on several months ago. Far too busy upgrading 5,000 different Linux distros to even think about Mac. Only just got Fedora 7 sorted and along comes 8.

My installation of Leopard went flawlessly, but then I did the same as I do with Linux, back up the data, do a clean install. It also gave me the opportunity to get new versions of the various apps I was using. In any event, I thought it would be rather rash to jump from Panther to Leopard via an automatic update.

Installing Fink via bootstrap has been quite time consuming though. It's almost as bad as running Gentoo

It could be worse - imagine "upgrading" to Vista, finding out its too slow, amongst your TV card or whatever not working, only to move back to XP and find out that your licence key wont work as its now a Vista key. (I take it once you move to Leopard, you can still use Tiger, right?).

Either way, Upgrading to a new Ubuntu, or Fedora (from each respective distro) is just far more convenient.

spottedcat wrote:You mean you think it might have upgraded itself to Tiger without even being switched on? I knew Mac OSX was a good OS, but...

Much excited by this thought, I just had to check didn't I? In eager anticipation, I wiped the dust off "the white and silver biscuit tin" this morning, pressed the power button and waited. But no, oh dear, inexplicably it still seems to be running 10.3. What a disappointment.

But if I decided I wanted to upgrade to 10.5, would my Mac Mini be able to cope I wonder? I've had mine for about two and a half years and it's the entry level 1.25GHz G4 with 256RAM. It seems to be the norm these days that if you upgrade an o.s. you also have to upgrade your hardware at the same time.

Marrea wrote:But if I decided I wanted to upgrade to 10.5, would my Mac Mini be able to cope I wonder? I've had mine for about two and a half years and it's the entry level 1.25GHz G4 with 256RAM. It seems to be the norm these days that if you upgrade an o.s. you also have to upgrade your hardware at the same time.

So long as you upgrade the memory, the answer seems to be yes, although with that processor I should imagine you'll need the patience of Job.

but I should think you'll be better off with 1G. If you're tempted to replace the RAM yourself, you might find this video useful. Warning - sizeable video and slow server. The most interesting revelation from that video is that the tool recommmended by Apple for opening a Mac Mini up is a putty knife.

spottedcat wrote: ... you might find this video useful .... The most interesting revelation from that video is that the tool recommmended by Apple for opening a Mac Mini up is a putty knife.

Not managed to view the video yet (for the reasons you cite) but I was well aware of the sophisticated tool for opening the case! Annoyingly, as so often happens, fairly soon after I bought my Mini they upped the memory to 512MB in the entry level model. I think I'd better stick with what I've got for now. The upgrade path sounds a bit too expensive!

That's the benefit of a clean install, it doesn't matter what was on the computer before you started, formatting gets rid of the lot. It looks like an archive install wouldn't have produced any problems either.
Still, after over two years, I thought a good clean out was in order.

Diagmato wrote:It could be worse - imagine "upgrading" to Vista, finding out its too slow, amongst your TV card or whatever not working, only to move back to XP and find out that your licence key wont work as its now a Vista key. (I take it once you move to Leopard, you can still use Tiger, right?).

Either way, Upgrading to a new Ubuntu, or Fedora (from each respective distro) is just far more convenient.

Apparently, you can buy a downgrade disk to take you back to XP

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