Given that they are already classless enough to be throwing a "themed" funeral and a war-themed one at that, I'm a little suprised that the organizers didn't invite her to be dragged naked, and in chains, behind the funeral caisson and ritually garrotted at the end of the ceremony. I mean, if you are going to do a Roman triumph, do it right for pity's sake

Magorn:Given that they are already classless enough to be throwing a "themed" funeral and a war-themed one at that, I'm a little suprised that the organizers didn't invite her to be dragged naked, and in chains, behind the funeral caisson and ritually garrotted at the end of the ceremony. I mean, if you are going to do a Roman triumph, do it right for pity's sake

Magorn:Given that they are already classless enough to be throwing a "themed" funeral and a war-themed one at that, I'm a little suprised that the organizers didn't invite her to be dragged naked, and in chains, behind the funeral caisson and ritually garrotted at the end of the ceremony. I mean, if you are going to do a Roman triumph, do it right for pity's sake

When Dubya dies, I'm sure the funeral will be a "Spring Time for Hitler" affair, with 9/11 reenactments, a Bob Hope "road" type search for chemical weapons in Iraq and a bunch of unfunded mandate stuff.

Katolu:When Dubya dies, I'm sure the funeral will be a "Spring Time for Hitler" affair, with 9/11 reenactments, a Bob Hope "road" type search for chemical weapons in Iraq and a bunch of unfunded mandate stuff.

Well, she needs to be remembered for something, and wrecking the UK's manufacturing base and poking giant holes in its social safety net aren't as much fun as kicking the crap out of a military junta.

I can't understand how she and/or Great Britain get criticized for the Falklands War. That was a reasonable, measured response to a military invasion by an aggressive autocracy. You don't want to fight wars, Argentina, then don't start them.

Also, the fact that Argentina dismisses the desires of the people who actually live on the Falklands is the reason why they're never going to get them. Self-determination is a fundamental principle of international law.

Thatcher ordered the sinking of the Belgrano - a ship steaming for home as fast as possible and way outside the exclusion zone - as a political act, not a military one. Over three hundred men died, most of them teeange conscripts with no option but to be there. She was a deeply cold, selfish, contemptuous, vicious excuse for a human being and the world is better off without her. But she's done massive and lasting damage to Britain, she shredded the social fabric of the country and it's never recovered. I'll be attending a celebration party on Wednesday. Burn in hellfire, biatch. I wish the IRA had nailed you.

Has Argentina actually made a case directly to the otherwise happy-to-be-British residents of the Falklands? Instead of whining to the international community, try to sway the people actually f*cking living there.

I'm not a greedy man. You give me a free coupon for the deluxe car wash package and some Tim Hortons gift cards, and I'll at least listen to you.

Lord Summerisle:But she's done massive and lasting damage to Britain, she shredded the social fabric of the country and it's never recovered. I'll be attending a celebration party on Wednesday. Burn in hellfire, biatch. I wish the IRA had nailed you.

I think that's the socialist policies that followed Thatcher that's helped turn the UK into a great welfare state with a camera up everyone's backside.

Lord Summerisle:Thatcher ordered the sinking of the Belgrano - a ship steaming for home as fast as possible and way outside the exclusion zone - as a political act, not a military one. Over three hundred men died, most of them teeange conscripts with no option but to be there. She was a deeply cold, selfish, contemptuous, vicious excuse for a human being and the world is better off without her. But she's done massive and lasting damage to Britain, she shredded the social fabric of the country and it's never recovered. I'll be attending a celebration party on Wednesday. Burn in hellfire, biatch. I wish the IRA had nailed you.

The belgrano wad not steaming "for home". It was steaming away from the islands but heading for a rendezvous with other units to take further action.

Besides, in a war who cares which wad an enemy ship is heading anyway? What did it matter?

dittybopper:Magorn: Given that they are already classless enough to be throwing a "themed" funeral and a war-themed one at that, I'm a little suprised that the organizers didn't invite her to be dragged naked, and in chains, behind the funeral caisson and ritually garrotted at the end of the ceremony. I mean, if you are going to do a Roman triumph, do it right for pity's sake

Magorn:Given that they are already classless enough to be throwing a "themed" funeral and a war-themed one at that, I'm a little suprised that the organizers didn't invite her to be dragged naked, and in chains, behind the funeral caisson and ritually garrotted at the end of the ceremony. I mean, if you are going to do a Roman triumph, do it right for pity's sake

Indeed. I really don't get the idea of having a themed funeral, especially for a head-of-state. The theme of the funeral is: the old PM who truly had a lasting effect on the country is dead. A theme is superfluous and crass. That goes without regard for whether people have hate or love for her. It seems very unBritish (but I am an American, so that could just be my British stereotypes kicking in).

Are we going to have an Iraq themed funeral for Cheney when he fully transitions to a full lich?

Lord Summerisle:Thatcher ordered the sinking of the Belgrano - a ship steaming for home as fast as possible and way outside the exclusion zone - as a political act, not a military one. Over three hundred men died, most of them teeange conscripts with no option but to be there. She was a deeply cold, selfish, contemptuous, vicious excuse for a human being and the world is better off without her. But she's done massive and lasting damage to Britain, she shredded the social fabric of the country and it's never recovered. I'll be attending a celebration party on Wednesday. Burn in hellfire, biatch. I wish the IRA had nailed you.

Not true. The Belgrano was 36 miles outside the 200-mile exclusion zone, and on a course parallel with it. Other Argentine naval and air forces were engaged in aggressive maneuvering toward the British task force. Thatcher's commanders on the spot asked for an exception to the 200-mile zone ROE, because they thought Belgrano was a threat, and Thatcher agreed.

The two sides had already begun fighting in April, as the Brits retook South Georgia and captured an Argentine sub, so the idea that Argentinean warships were safe if they just stayed away from the Falklands is disingenous at best. The Brits formally warned the Argentines through diplomatic channels that any warship could be fair game if they considered it a threat, a week BEFORE the Belgrano headed out to a position near the exclusion zone.

Argentine Rear Admiral Allara, who was in charge of the task force that the Belgrano was part of, said "After that message of 23 April, the entire South Atlantic was an operational theatre for both sides. We, as professionals, said it was just too bad that we lost theBelgrano."

As for those teenage conscripts, who conscripted them and sent them out to fight professionals? Makes me sick to have to white knight Thatcher, so please quit with the misinformation based on propaganda put out by the since-deposed junta.

Lord Summerisle:Thatcher ordered the sinking of the Belgrano - a ship steaming for home as fast as possible and way outside the exclusion zone - as a political act, not a military one. Over three hundred men died, most of them teeange conscripts with no option but to be there. She was a deeply cold, selfish, contemptuous, vicious excuse for a human being and the world is better off without her. But she's done massive and lasting damage to Britain, she shredded the social fabric of the country and it's never recovered. I'll be attending a celebration party on Wednesday. Burn in hellfire, biatch. I wish the IRA had nailed you.

You should tell how you REALLY feel. And don't hold anything back this time.

id10ts:Lord Summerisle: But she's done massive and lasting damage to Britain, she shredded the social fabric of the country and it's never recovered. I'll be attending a celebration party on Wednesday. Burn in hellfire, biatch. I wish the IRA had nailed you.

I think that's the socialist policies that followed Thatcher that's helped turn the UK into a great welfare state with a camera up everyone's backside.

Are you actually familiar with the UK? They were "socialist" long before Thatcher.

Perfect example: Our understanding of the Second Battle of the Atlantic, and indeed the conduct of most of WWII in Europe was woefully lacking prior to the revelations about Bletchley Park and their successes (and failures) against Axis signals. Things that seemed coincidental, or decisions that seemed almost psychic or idiotic, are now shown to be due to mastery (or lack thereof) of the war in the aether.

Thus it is with the sinking of the ARA General Belgrano: The British, who have since WWI been very, very good at signals intelligence, managed to intercept the HF communications of the Argentine navy, and apparently they had the ability to decrypt those messages, which is a major farkin' advantage. If I know where you are, where you are going, and what you plan to do when you get there, I can probably prevent you from accomplishing your mission.

Lord Summerisle:Thatcher ordered the sinking of the Belgrano - a ship steaming for home as fast as possible and way outside the exclusion zone - as a political act, not a military one. Over three hundred men died, most of them teeange conscripts with no option but to be there. She was a deeply cold, selfish, contemptuous, vicious excuse for a human being and the world is better off without her. But she's done massive and lasting damage to Britain, she shredded the social fabric of the country and it's never recovered. I'll be attending a celebration party on Wednesday. Burn in hellfire, biatch. I wish the IRA had nailed you.

+1. Britain should've boarded the ship, endured the necessary casualties, and given those teenagers a good talking to and set them on their way.

And Maggie Thatcher shredded the British social fabric? What?! You sound like a conservative whinging about gay marriage or something. What altered British culture was the massive influx of immigrants that altered the culture (and relax about that, by the way, it's natural evolution - you'll get used to it and your godawful cuisine is already benefitting from the newcomers). Or the rampant alcoholism. Or the drastically increased welfare safety net.

The Thatcher Hate is truly a wonderment to behold. She saved the country from financial ruin and fought a just war to save the Falklands from invasion.

She did NOT "destroy the social fabric of Britain". She saved the country from outright MARXISTS hell bent on destroying Britain via industrial action, aided and abetted by the KGB. She reversed the stupid and destuctive Nationalization that has PROVED to be useless and counterproductive. Britain would've been a third world basket case if not for her actions.

She did good, and the whiney socialists who are STILL pissed off they were denied their prize can just suck it.

mark12A:The Thatcher Hate is truly a wonderment to behold. She saved the country from financial ruin and fought a just war to save the Falklands from invasion.

She did NOT "destroy the social fabric of Britain". She saved the country from outright MARXISTS hell bent on destroying Britain via industrial action, aided and abetted by the KGB. She reversed the stupid and destuctive Nationalization that has PROVED to be useless and counterproductive. Britain would've been a third world basket case if not for her actions.

She did good, and the whiney socialists who are STILL pissed off they were denied their prize can just suck it.

Its an outrage the English won't afford her the respect the American right wing demands she is entitled to.

mbillips:Well, she needs to be remembered for something, and wrecking the UK's manufacturing base and poking giant holes in its social safety net aren't as much fun as kicking the crap out of a military junta.

I can't understand how she and/or Great Britain get criticized for the Falklands War. That was a reasonable, measured response to a military invasion by an aggressive autocracy. You don't want to fight wars, Argentina, then don't start them.

Also, the fact that Argentina dismisses the desires of the people who actually live on the Falklands is the reason why they're never going to get them. Self-determination is a fundamental principle of international law.

what holes in the safety net?isn't housing, food, and healthcare an absolute entitlement there?what are you looking for in terms of a safety net?a range rover?

mbillips:Well, she needs to be remembered for something, and wrecking the UK's manufacturing base and poking giant holes in its social safety net aren't as much fun as kicking the crap out of a military junta.

Wasn't the manufacturing base circling the tubes for years? What she did was more akin to pullingt heplug on life support.

Lord Summerisle:Thatcher ordered the sinking of the Belgrano - a ship steaming for home as fast as possible and way outside the exclusion zone - as a political act, not a military one. Over three hundred men died, most of them teeange conscripts with no option but to be there.

Dont forget that they were on their way to make a donation to Mother Theresa.