I don't understand why we have to assume the England fullback is going to be Tomkins, at least not once McNamara has relinquished the head coach role. I'm not saying Lomax should be the next England fullback, just in case anyone accuses me of bias, but rather that we need to keep an open mind. Australia can afford to use exactly the same spine year in, year out because they have been stand out players in their competition. Tomkins is no longer in our competition, we don't know how he will go in the NRL, or indeed if a fresh face in the fullback position (and not only that position) would be the difference between coming third and coming top.

Ryan Hall did literally nothing on Friday night. If he can't score against a depleted Saints side what hope does he have against Australia.

I've just had to take another look at the thread title again.Its about England fullback whats it got to do with Ryan Hall.Any way right now I would have Tomkins.I wouldn't read too much into what certain Leeds players didn't do against a depleted Saints team though its only one game,you never know they might get even worse

but you and I weve been through that and this is not our fate.
So let us so let us not talk falsely now.
The hour is getting late
FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB HAS DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESSTHEN i DONT KNOW WHAT IS.

I've just had to take another look at the thread title again.Its about England fullback whats it got to do with Ryan Hall.Any way right now I would have Tomkins.I wouldn't read too much into what certain Leeds players didn't do against a depleted Saints team though its only one game,you never know they might get even worse

I think he was using Hall to illustrate that one quiet game doesn't make you a bad player.

Wow,Saints beat Leeds,Hardaker has a poor game and all of a sudden he should be nowhere near the England setup.Time you got a little perspective.Lomax is wasted at fullback,I thought he was better suited to playing at scrum half.

Ryan Hall did plenty, especially given that he hardly had any ball, it's just that what he did, didn't quite come off.

Plenty is an exaggeration IMO. He did okay but didn't do much. I was just using the point that although Hall wasn't world class against Saints it doesn't make him a bad player. As we have seen with Hall he can score wonder tries against Aus.