3. Gavinator actually has some pretty funny ways of trolling every now and then. funnily enough, he trolls the best when he actually isnt talking about the godamn parham all the time, when he is making jetfighter rage so hard that he gets deaththreats it's genuine fun. This is why gavinator is almost close to being likeable. It's a damn shame he insists on keeping this up (even whatup was mature enough to stop eventually)

2. Sungolian, Every single one of sungs posts is a godamn waste to read. You don't really get mad or irritated at them, you just wonder to yourself why he even bothered to post in the first place. It's painfully clear that nobody likes him and that he wont be liked by anyone.

1. Yereslov, this guy genuinely manages to irritate people with his complete retardation. He has not made a single redeeming post and even though everyone knows he is a 1000% troll we keep posting to him because of the retarded shit he posts (unlike sungolian who people tends to avoid nowadays -- much like real life for him I suspect).

Final notes:Gavi, give up the trolling and people will start liking you, you're almost charismatic enough to be civilized.

And Gavinator, when you say that I lost to whatupyodog, you are using a database of 2 games (which is less than 4):

50% - White win

0% - Draw

50% - Black win

You should note that in every database given the ruy lopez scores better than this.

Fine print: Given the past few posts, you might think I like the ruy lopez. I actually play 1.d4. I am just trying to show that openings that are considered sound are better than the parham.

More fine print: Gavinator is right that the ruy has a higher draw % than the parham, and in his database (only) the parham wins more than the ruy. Nevertheless, even in his 17 game database the ruy scores better because most of the draws the ruy creates would have been wins for black in the parham. It's better to draw than lose in my opinion, and I believe most people will agree with this.

I think that databases aren't a very good thing to test the Parham, because that:

1. There is no actual defined Parham theory.

2. There is many people who play it for the 4-move mate then get crushed after.

3. There is just a lack of games, nobody has found more than 20 games or so in a single databases, while many of these databases have thousands of Ruy Lopez Games.

P.S.- I didn't try to find a database where the Parham won more than others. I literally searched "Chess Opening Explorer", and the chessgames.com came up first, but you have to pay for full access, in chess365 there was more games and you didn't have to pay for full access. That's the DB I always use, I didn't find one for the Parham.

Somehow I think I am going to side with not only the better player, but the more expierienced person, the engines, GM's, and my own gut feeling, and say this opening is a POS (for those who don't know that acronym google it.)