If coca-cola is a positive status symbol in certain places in the world, it still doesn't work as an analogy because the hats that were posted were being compared as a negative brand in the fashion-world just as Mcdonalds/Coke would be a negative brand in the food-world.

People aren't going to wear Carhartt hats because they're fashionable and cool. They're going to wear them because it's what they can afford and they are cold. To insult someone for that shows pitiful moral character.

This is a forum about men's fashion. Of course there will be an elitist streak; that's part of what makes style fun.

I may shooting in the dark here, since I didn't see the beginning of this discussion, but I could see someone wearing a Carhartt hat for that faux trucker look or maybe if they're really into the outdoors thing. I have LL Bean duck boots that I rock every once and a while. It reminds me somewhat of the Land Rover vibe (not Range Rover).

Managed to sort out my voucher/code with TBS. They had not set it up correctly which is why it did not work on sale stock. I must say, even though commincation can be a little difficult with the time differences, they communicate fantastically. Service is incredible really.

After a little back and forth over email for 2 days and this evening I was able to use the code with sale stock. And even though I was a little disappointed that it took so long to sort out, and therefore many items had become out of stock, I had a pretty massive win as a result of this.

I originally bought these McNairy brogues at retail (one of the few things i've bought at retail). I ordered them in a 7.5 UK thinking i'd size down half like my Grenson's but they were too tight in the toe box. Grenson's only go down a half because they are G width. 8UK on the way.

So I returned them and rather than asking for an exchange, I asked for the credit/voucher which was issued immediately without question. It has timed out well as these shoes then went onto the Winter Sale. And for the past week were sitting at 30% off - a good deal. However today they went to 50% off!

Very pleased with that result. What I also noticed was a few other items dropped further and I decided to pickup another pair of McNairy's. The Commando Wax Wholecut Burgundy. I'd been considering the shoes I have in rotation now and what has been missing is a solid all weather Derby. And furthermore, something with a smooth leather rather than suede finish.

While I was waiting for the voucher to be fixed I had this Acne Isherwood shirt sitting in my cart - hoping that it would not go out of stock in my size. Thankfully it held out and I popped it into the cart again. It felt nice to place this order and not have to actually pay much more. All in, this was about 800 EUR worth of goods for about 350 EUR including the voucher.

The beanies were not purchased as a workwear accessory, but because they were cheap and came in a wide variety of colors. I bought four and gave the two in colors I ended up disliking to my mom and younger brother.

OH and I bought a pair of garters to keep my socks up when I cuff/roll my pants above my ankles.

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I played hockey with a bunch of goons, headcases, and rich kids who hated their parents to more than an unreasonable degree. Oh high school.

I played lacrosse in high school. Mine was the only public high school in my city, so the lacrosse team was not in fact full of privileged WASPs. I remember one kid was a heroin dealer. Heroin. I mean everyone sells pot in high school and college, but fucking heroin??

There was another kid, a D-pole, who got so mad at a girl at this party that he punched a hole in a wall and broke his wrist to the point of needing surgery. Another dude, an attackman, did the same thing to a chainlink fence. It didn't break, but he somehow broke his wrist too, albeit much less seriously.

Cheap toques are a necessity. I lose several a winter to bars, the bus, smelly salty shoe-water on the floor, whatever.

I picked up a couple things during sales this week, nothing too exciting but they were lots of percentages off:

These CPs which are hilariously terrible on snow but nice and warm and comfy.

And this SNS sweater I have a question about: is it a bad idea to cut the steel wire that runs up the sleeves and down the sides so I can stretch the body down? It fits but an extra inch would be perfect.

The beanies were not purchased as a workwear accessory, but because they were cheap and came in a wide variety of colors.

That's fine. I had hoped that what I had meant was clear, but since some people didn't get it:

You posted those hats in this thread, and among their advantages you cited their cheap price, "reasonable" affordability, and the fact that they're Made in USA ... none of which have anything to do with their appearance, their coordination ability, whatever. I think there's some sort of expectation that items posted in this thread are going to be used on some level as style items. So when you posted an item in here and listed a bunch of "advantages" (none of which are really valuable other than the fact that they are cheap), I found it pretty odd.

And not to beat this horse more dead than it already is, but can we at least agree Carhartt is to workwear what Coca-Cola is to soda and MacDonald's to burgers. The iconic status is there. Same frame different picture.

Also safe to say Carhartt has parlayed it's workwear vibe into other categories besides workwear via collabs. Duh. Quite well too. See Adam Kimmel, Apc, and others that don't come to mind at the moment. Basically uptown people looking to downplay their high brow shtick and branch out a little.

Funny that with the collab pieces you get what you pay for in that the stuff merits the price (more or less) whereas with the stock beanie you’re basically paying for the label, ie that beanie sans tag is dirt cheap.

That's fine. I had hoped that what I had meant was clear, but since some people didn't get it:
You posted those hats in this thread, and among their advantages you cited their cheap price, "reasonable" affordability, and the fact that they're Made in USA ... none of which have anything to do with their appearance, their coordination ability, whatever. I think there's some sort of expectation that items posted in this thread are going to be used on some level as style items. So when you posted an item in here and listed a bunch of "advantages" (none of which are really valuable other than the fact that they are cheap), I found it pretty odd.
Whatever.

I think being warm and soft are advantages. When I'm getting gear for the winter I tend not to abstract away from the functional qualities of an item to mere form, as that usually ends up with my ears or other extremities turning pink.

Made in the USA is an advantage to those of us who, rather than being nostalgic about the golden days of American workwear manufacturing, feel good about supporting companies that use fair labor practices. I think it's safe to say that the Chinese immigrants who make acrylic beanies in Detroit (or wherever Carhartt's factories are) experience better working conditions than the Chinese nationals who make acrylic beanies in Guangdong.

You must hate when someone posts that they got a deal on something on sale, or from a certain store. What does that have to do with the aesthetic, right?

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Funny that with the collab pieces you get what you pay for in that the stuff merits the price (more or less) whereas with the stock beanie you’re basically paying for the label, ie that beanie sans tag is dirt cheap.

If you can find me a beanie with a similar range of colors that's also MIUSA for less than $7, lmk, and it'll save me the time of removing the label from these.