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If you're being sarcastic, it's hard for me to to detect it.

If you're not, how could you possibly OC that? I haven't come across any holsters for AR pistols yet. If you have one, give it a try, but if you're considering OC'ing a loaded AR pistol with a single point slight (or some other kind of sling), you're headed for trouble, IMO.

One of the main reasons a loaded pistol doesn't warrant alarm is that it's in the holster and not being handled/touched.

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Trust me, I like the idea of OC'ing an AR, AK or Serbu... but the only way to do it would be to use a holster for it, unless you want to what the smell of week-old vomit in the back of a Crown Victoria smells like.

Now, if you're going to somewhere like a camp site or to a wilderness shooting area, I don't see any issue. I just wouldn't recommend it in public.

If we still get hassled in this state for peaceable, holstered OC of "normal" pistols, just take a second to think what kind of hassle you'd get with that holstered... much less slung.

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So?... Just because the Serbu is an AOW doesn't mean it can't be OC'd... just like the AR pistol or AK pistol (which I'd rather OC than an AR).

I have OC'd a SOCOM 16 on a sling in cities before. You can OC a Serbu Super Shorty. Nowhere is open carry of rifles or AOW's prohibited. You have to be very prepared to deal with LEOs if you OC a rifle and you should make sure your sling allows you to carry it in such a way that you are not walking around with the weapon "in-hand." I'd avoid one of the tactical slings that acts as a front-carry sling, since they make the rifle seem very accessible. A standard military sling with the rifle over a shoulder is a better option. I think the same holds true for your AR-15 pistol. You'd want it to hang on your back or at your side in a way that keeps it away from your hands and allows you to carry hands-free.

What you can't do with the Serbu (since it's not a pistol) is get into a vehicle with it loaded and hope your CPL allows you to do it. (It doesn't.) The same goes for my battle-rifle.

Since the AR-15 pistol is registered as a pistol (and WA calls it a pistol too since SBR's are prohibited here) if you have a CPL you could keep it loaded in the car or wear it concealed too.

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Wa state law defines pistols as having under a 11 inch barrel and firing one handed I believe .... should be Legal to CC/OC

and the Serbus are AOWs , smooth bore pistols by deffinition , zip guns (even rifled) and any cartridgepistol Not C&amp;R listed with a smoothbore are also AOWs , and if you stick a Verticalforegrip on a PLR-16 or AR pistol its an AOW now and you just manufactured it .........

Remington 10gauge flare pistols , and my understanding now the Ithaca auto burgler guns are legal C&amp;R pistols .... the Ithaa is an arm and a leg but the Rems are about $300

Kinda wanted a serbu once myself years ago

Id think its wrist breaker to fire , the Marshal Witness protector shotgun I know has a longer barrel/tube and effectively a cut down stock grip ...... "hacksaw" grips transfer recoil straight to the wrist

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Thinking about it. I'm guessingthere's a good chance i'll have a combat-boot print on my neck by the end of the day though.

funny you should mention this...and forgive me for what I'm about to say as I'm new enough that I'm not sure when anyone is joking or not.

we all had a good conversation about this very TYPE of situation &amp; all agree that it's a poor choice..primarily from the point of a more negative image of MOST gun owners. in a time when all rights are being restricted or reduced, the gun movement can not afford to have the kind of negative attention that this type of OC would garner. There was a lot of agreement that one who would carry something like this OR get all "tacticool"d up to OC is simply looking for attention and is more concerned with self-gratification than with the group as an entirety.

the entire OC field is about using your BRAIN and acting RESPONSIBLY, and I can't help but hope that this entire thread was nothing more than a joke because this is one mentality that this kind of movement has no place or need for.

say what you wish, but I"m sure that I'm not the only one that feels this way.

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