If Park Bank is liable for not spotting Sujata "Sue" Sachdeva's $34 million embezzlement from Koss Corp. and has to reimburse the company, Koss Chief Executive Michael Koss should also be ordered to personally pay the public company he runs, the bank argues in a new lawsuit.

Grant Thornton, Koss Corp.'s former auditor, should also have to pay a portion of any award that may be ordered, Park Bank argued in the latest twist in a long-running court fight stemming from Sachdeva's massive embezzlement.

"Park Bank denies any and all liability to Koss in this case," the bank said in its action. "Nevertheless, should Park Bank be found liable to Koss (Corp.) and required to pay damages to Koss, in this case, those damages will have been the result of a common liability of Park Bank, Michael Koss and Grant Thornton, thereby entitling Park Bank to (a) contribution from Michael Koss and Grant Thornton."(10)

Packers meet with agent to discuss Dietrich-Smith's future

Green Bay —Ted Thompson and the Green Bay Packers had an up close look at several center prospects these past few days in Indianapolis. But while at the NFL scouting combine, they also had another order of business. »Read Full Blog Post

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Might as well sign him. We could do alot worse than EDS. He'd come "semi" cheap, we wouldn't have to use a draft pick on a center this year then, and with the money saved on signing him vs. high priced free agent centers, we could use some of that money towards signing A-Rod, Clay and Raji long-term. Probably not the center you want to hook your wagon to for the next 10 years but good enough at this time.

I think that may be the most important point in this whole discussion BMS. I really like EDS, great underdog story, maybe even a viable long-term center (I can't be sure) but it would be a pretty exceptional story to go from cut from two teams not even 2 years ago to filling in for 4 games for an under-performing vet to long-term.

Think about it, they didn't even want to do that for Wells when Wells was declared the best linemen on the team by the HC (second in command really) before hitting FA.

On the flipside, if both Rodgers and Saturday think EDS is capable (I thought they were both sincere), those are some big time peers to give their blessing to you (when they didn't have to do so in public).

EDS being cut and brought back isn't all that unique. It happens frequent enough with young players that need time to develop. Look at Breno Giacomini. I think the Packers cut him twice, signed him to the PS at least once, and he eventually ends up starting in Seattle because he couldn't stick with GB.

EDS is a guy that you love to have on your team. He's also a guy you hate to have on the field actually playing. You can live with EDS as a backup that plays a few games every year - especially since there is nothing else on the roster - but he's a guy you'd always be looking to upgrade. Give him the mid-tender, draft well, let him play out the year and move on.

PB- While I think there's some truth to your statement, when you always assume the coaches/GMs know best, how do you explain the times they make mistakes? Also, isn't it the role of fans to be so into a team that they speculate on discussion boards... why even post if we can't comment on EDS (or any other player's) talent?

The thing here what PB states is that we cannot really truly tell how good a center EDS is. We are not up front and center but watching from a TV or high up in the bleachers. Coaches/GM's watch the player up close and personnel see them work at practice and understand the role of the player on the field. Coaches and GM's VS the Fans (constant Bloggers) the question is who wins? the men who scout for a living or the pizza man? Yes we can debate we have our opinions and share them but that does not mean us bloggers know more than the guys who work football for a living with no other distractions and who watch tape and evaluate the players performance. Would you take anyone's post here above Ted Thompsons or MM's view on the player?

As much as you do not like the player does not mean MM or Ted will not like the player regardless according to this article it looks like EDS will be our center for the future until one player beats him out of the position. GO PACK GO

Also, don't you guys all think there's some level of gamesmanship going on across the board? Thompson may sincerely think EDS is incredible and give the press a sign that he wants a long-term deal... or he may be throwing some bait out there so other teams don't entirely buy into the idea that GB needs a center (think about the draft repercussions if EDS is signed long-term vs. RFA at a mid-tender).

Thompson is way too thrifty and crafty to show his cards completely at any position let alone before the draft when the draft is his primary way to build a franchise. Even with Rodgers in the early days, he drafted a QB in the second (whom prior to flopping was viewed as a legit 1st round talent).

Teams lament all the time about a certain guy they were targeting getting picked one or two slots ahead of their time on the clock.

i doubt anyone here REALLY knows what kind of center EDS can be. we can't watch him consistently enough and we don't even know what his blocking assignments are to begin with.

so, yes, the coaches and personnel are easily the best ones to assess that information.

i do know this, many in the organization have spoken very highly of EDS when offered the chance. the o-line appeared to be much more stout when he replaced saturday and he graded out well by most analysts, particularly in the run game.

The coaches and personnel guys make several bad decisions a year (Jeff Saturday) so I have no problem forming an opinion about EDS. McGinn has never said he's close to being special. Neither has Larry McCarren. No other team is bidding up for his services. All that evidence supports what I saw--he's ordinary.

they gambled that he had one more year left in his body and he didn't. that's they way it goes.

mcginn-

"(EDS) packed a heavy punch against pass rushers and held up well against stunts. A better center than guard, he allowed all three of his sacks and all five of his penalties from LG. Of the seven O-linemen that played, he yielded the fewest pressures (10½). Didn't have a faulty shotgun snap and seemed to handle the mental part of the game without a hitch. Will be hard to dislodge from the lineup."

notice the last sentence.

i imagine mccarren also liked what he saw because EDS played well.

teams aren't bidding for anyone yet because they're not allowed to. that would be "tampering". not to mention they don't even know who is available.

they gambled that he had one more year left in his body and he didn't. that's they way it goes.

mcginn-

"(EDS) packed a heavy punch against pass rushers and held up well against stunts. A better center than guard, he allowed all three of his sacks and all five of his penalties from LG. Of the seven O-linemen that played, he yielded the fewest pressures (10½). Didn't have a faulty shotgun snap and seemed to handle the mental part of the game without a hitch. Will be hard to dislodge from the lineup."

notice the last sentence.

i imagine mccarren also liked what he saw because EDS played well.

teams aren't bidding for anyone yet because they're not allowed to. that would be "tampering". not to mention they don't even know who is available.

I agree with PB, how can you declare that EDS will forever be inadequate after 4 starts at C?

He likely signs a 3 year deal, so he has a chance to cash in when he is 29 and proves he is worth good money. On the flip side, a 3 year deal gives the Packers a chance to determine if he is worth keeping around for the long haul. They draft someone in the later rounds this year to develop and serve backup duty until they decide if they want EDS as the long term C.

I liked what I have saw with EDS who is still a young player who has potential of being a special player. Our OL was getting thrown back early on with Saturday when EDS got moved to the Center position with Barclay coming in the OL DID get better as the season went on. I will agree with Packer brass to re-sign him and make him our starting Center for years to come.

I still don't understand the "Special" that you are seeing...the guy was a SIEVE at Guard, looked completely lost and overmatched, and was an obvious upgrade at Center due to Saturday being old and out of time in NFL years...we have not seen enough of EDS to call him the Center of the Future but I still think he is being given every chance to take that job and run with it...3 year deal max...

I think there is a massive amount of chess being played here. It's pre-draft but also time to think about RFA tendering... on a team that builds from the draft. What better thing to do to confuse your competition than to say "hey we think this guy is worth a first round tender."

The drafting game involves a pretty big mix of playing it coy and doing due diligence especially at slot #26.

Make no mistake about it, I think the Packers like ALL their players. The question is ALWAYS at what price for the role you want them in compared to what's reasonably available in FA or draft. Unless EDS transformed completely in one orbit around the sun, this is a guy whose struggled to make multiple teams in the past year or two. I like the guy a lot but I doubt he's "the future" to warrant a long-term deal before the draft. If they want him long-term, why not RFA this year and work out the long-term later?

If Thompson thinks Barrett Jones or Frederick is the best player at #26 (or wherever he trades up/down to), he'll take a center.

Some folks are very high on Frederick...............word is he's better suited to the power blocking schemes than he is at zone blocking. Since he's never played in a zone blocking scheme no one knows if he can thrive in it.

I wouldn't complain if Ted took either of those 2 guys.

Heck he could trade out of the 1st round and pick 2 times in the 2nd for all I know.

I don't know whether its all planned or what regardless I think teams will choose who they feel will help their team get better I think EDS deserves to continue his career with all his accomplishments this year. He stepped up when asked and over exceeded expectations. If a player beats EDS than he beats him. Whatever the Packers do I think we will truly see who is our center through training camp and pre-season. I won't complain if we take an OL in the 1st round but I truly don't think that will happen. I see a lot more great choices on defense in the first round that can fall to us.

PB- I think the paradox is, due to there being "no chess in signing a guy to a long-term deal" (especially an underdog, twice-cut final 53 type, before the draft) that's the exact reason Thompson wouldn't do the long-term if he can use RFA. Unless his agent is saying "well go to FA for certain in 2014" I don't see what chips EDS has to force that.

It's kind of like if you already had an option to secure a guy (through RFA) you had only really seen for 4 games at center, why would you do long-term now? You could even RFA the guy and work out the long term deal in season.

You may be right and tomorrow it's announced that he's signed long-term but I'd find that WAY out of character for TT unless it's a super cheap deal for "starter" money. This is Rodgers' prime, he needs a top of the line center if possible. If they think that's EDS, I hope they're right! I like the guy's story.

This is why I really love the draft. This is a great discussion, thanks for your thoughts fellas (and dudettes if they're posting too).

Good points PB about still drafting a center to develop if he's the best player at the spot they end up drafting.

In a game where injury is fairly likely at all levels of positions, getting a versatile, talented G/C would make sense for GB's immediate and future success (possibly LT too, which makes Fluker interesting since some say he could go inside to guard).

Rodgers won't be extended till 2014 so we have room to extend Raji and Matthews and room to extend Shields, EDS and Crabtree this year. Also one can hope Rodgers will take note to Brady's big deal that greatly helped the Patriots.

And just like in chess, sometimes just being direct without any trickery is the most baffling for the opponent (making the long-term signing possibility even more productive/healthy).

There is some truth/precedence to lesser talented linemen making it at center (Saturday was that storyline, Wells similar, etc). And we know the Packers can't pay top-dollar at EVERY position with the cap... maybe they know they have a good thing with EDS and can get him for fairly cheap if they go for a multi-year now rather than later?

I mean the championship year... it's just about 100% true that if Thompson didn't trade up for CM3 in CM3's draft year, they don't win it all (who knows what that Pats would have done with CM3 but I bet they'd have a post-spygate championship with that big of a playmaker joining them)...

even more interesting, the Bears were right about to pick both Starks and Burnett. The Bears may have been 1-2 pieces away from a championship themselves in 2010 and they might have missed by 1-2 draft slots really. The "game of inches" is also the "game of missing/hitting 1 draft slot ahead of your competition."

Ray Lewis another example... GB may have another championship around the time Lewis won his first (2000 I believe it was?) if he lands in Wolf's lap. All hindsight but also foresight when you think about how sure Thompson's team must have been about CM3 when others weren't.

the benefit i see with a deal for EDS is the cap hit would be less than a 2nd round tender.

with him being the leading option at center, i can't imagine they would want to play out the year on a 1-year tender. if he turns out good, a new deal would then cost them more. if they do a deal now and he bombs, they can just cut him with probable minimal damage on the cap.

in other words, i see no reason not to do a deal unless they know he's not the guy.

Just out of curiosity, what do you guys consider a long-term deal? I bet he doesn't sign for anything longer than 3 years. The Packers keep him around for probably a reasonable price which is still significant regardless of who they draft. If they draft a C high because he is the BPA, then the two compete for a starting job in 2013. If EDS loses the job, he ends up being a good G-C backup for the 3 years. EDS doesn't have much incentive to sign for longer than that, because he wants a better contract than what he will get this year. 3 years will be plenty of time for him to prove that he is worthy of a bigger contract.

Bradys deal in NE will have NO bearing on ARodg whatsoever...why would you expect a HOF caliber starting QB who is due to "cash in" give his team a "discount?" I can see a "cap friendly" deal...but in NO WAY do I expect ARodg to say "ya know, Im due to make literally Millions upon Millions of dollars, and the market says that Im worth it, BUT, Tom just did his team a favor so I may as well too..." NOTGONNAHAPPEN

The offensive line play improved significantly when EDS took over at center last year. I think he can be an effective center, the kind of guy that you don't need to worry about. As long as the money is fair, I think it's a good idea to get the position taken care of.

"Significantly"... due to Saturday being a Turnstile...we haven't yet seen what EDS will look like after a dozen games...not sayin' he CAN'T do it, Im just sayin' the book is still OUT on whether he can...

The agent variable is really interesting here. I bet Parker is really playing up the Wells/Saturday dilemma: "see you took a gamble on a one-year rental and it cost you; sign my client long-term."

I think the key difference is, pound-for-pound at the time Wells moved on, he was a better option at center than EDS is now. EDS has youth and possible further development on his side though (I think Wells was 30 at the time he signed with St. Louis, no?).

I think what also played a part in Wells' departure was the fact that he constantly had to keep fighting for his job...every other year a guy got drafted that was the "Center of the Future" in Packerland, and that stuff just HAS to get old when your a starter...