Dixie_Wrecked:Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.

Gee, they seem in real danger here.

amid "some of the most intense rockets and mortar fire in months" there have been a grand total of 5 people wounded. Wow, that certainly sounds like the most advanced and well equipped military in the region needs assistance.

The Israeli's can certainly handle themselves in this regard as the have dozens of times in the past.

/you expect people to want to intervene for a nation who has fought off a conventional invasion from four opposing nations simultaneously WITHOUT direct assistance before now? Really?//you guys keep talking about Israel like its such a weak and helpless friend beset by stronger enemies at all times and not the most capable military force in the entire region.

Eye for an eye doesn't make the world blind. It cures the world of dangerous idiots.

What, pray tell, would you have the B52 hit? Its not like there is an installation, or permanent base these are coming from. You just going to have one loiter until a truck looks suspicious and then flatten half a square kilometer?

Jeeze, you would think there were nukes on these over-sized bottle rockets.

Actual, effective military solution:Israel throws some drones up and prosecutes real-time retaliatory strikes on the launch vehicles/sites.Difficulty: any civilians hit will bite you in the ass for twice whatever gains you make.

Egoy3k:Dixie_Wrecked: Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.

Assuming you aren't a troll, what do you think he should do exactly?

There are reasons to protect Israel. I find it funny/irritating that most farkers can't have an objective view about politics. Everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong.

signaljammer:I wonder if this Zionist contagion of the USA will ever end. It doesn't seem to have any precedent historically. Truman was a tool.

Yes, because it was the USA that came up with and lead the whole return-Jerusalem-to-the-jews thing.

The plan to create Israel on land in the middle east was developed post WWII by NATO countries to help settle displaced Jews following the war, given the residual feelings about the Jews in Germany/Europe, and the understandable feelings following the Dismal Solution. I mean, would YOU want to stay in a country that had been waging a campaign to use your ethnic/religious group as guinea pigs/slave labor until they could eradicate you?

signaljammer:I wonder if this Zionist contagion of the USA will ever end. It doesn't seem to have any precedent historically. Truman was a tool.

It's odd that the US culturally prefers a high-performing, hardworking, general peaceful culture which exemplary financial and scientific accomplishments, who have built a 1st world country out of a pit of cheap sand bereft of national resources and surrounded on all sides by aggressors over a collection of violent, lazy, debauched nomads and camel jockeys, who have spent the last 1200 years trying to conquer Europe.

Dixie_Wrecked:Egoy3k: Dixie_Wrecked: Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.

Assuming you aren't a troll, what do you think he should do exactly?

There are reasons to protect Israel. I find it funny/irritating that most farkers can't have an objective view about politics. Everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong.

Answer this question.

It has nothing to do with Republican vs. Democrat. What avenue of action is available to the US that the Israeli's can't do at all, or can't do better given their experience, locality, and resources?

This doesn't even approach the level of swatting flies. Its like shooing away gnats. Israel can handle that perfectly fine, and more ably, than the US can.

I would argue we already HAVE helped them in this regard considering our technological assistance in developing Iron Dome and other active protection and/or various detection systems.

Dixie_Wrecked:Egoy3k: Dixie_Wrecked: Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.

Assuming you aren't a troll, what do you think he should do exactly?

There are reasons to protect Israel. I find it funny/irritating that most farkers can't have an objective view about politics. Everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong.

You aren't answering my question and I am not the one who brought partisan politics into this debate. I'll ask again. What exactly do you expect him to do in defense of, as Wicked Chinchilla so aptly described them, the most advanced and well equipped military in the region?

I mean if you are being critical of the president's leadership tell us what he should have done instead of what he did do.

Wicked Chinchilla:Dixie_Wrecked: Egoy3k: Dixie_Wrecked: Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.

Assuming you aren't a troll, what do you think he should do exactly?

There are reasons to protect Israel. I find it funny/irritating that most farkers can't have an objective view about politics. Everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong.

Answer this question.

It has nothing to do with Republican vs. Democrat. What avenue of action is available to the US that the Israeli's can't do at all, or can't do better given their experience, locality, and resources?

This doesn't even approach the level of swatting flies. Its like shooing away gnats. Israel can handle that perfectly fine, and more ably, than the US can.

I would argue we already HAVE helped them in this regard considering our technological assistance in developing Iron Dome and other active protection and/or various detection systems.

Egoy3k:Dixie_Wrecked: Egoy3k: Dixie_Wrecked: Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.

Assuming you aren't a troll, what do you think he should do exactly?

There are reasons to protect Israel. I find it funny/irritating that most farkers can't have an objective view about politics. Everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong.

You aren't answering my question and I am not the one who brought partisan politics into this debate. I'll ask again. What exactly do you expect him to do in defense of, as Wicked Chinchilla so aptly described them, the most advanced and well equipped military in the region?

I mean if you are being critical of the president's leadership tell us what he should have done instead of what he did do.

And to prove my point, right from the article:"Six Palestinian militants were killed in Israeli airstrikes on Gaza."

They had 70+ rockets fired at them plus some mortars over the course of a day resulting in 5 wounded. Real effective weapons there.

During that same time frame they have already retaliated and drawn blood.

I ask those of you again saying how the US should help: how WOULD you have us help in some form of effective manner? This needless sabre rattling and calls to thrust the US military into every teeny tiny little scrap the Israelis deal with on a day-to-day basis is ridiculous.

Wicked Chinchilla:And to prove my point, right from the article:"Six Palestinian militants were killed in Israeli airstrikes on Gaza."

They had 70+ rockets fired at them plus some mortars over the course of a day resulting in 5 wounded. Real effective weapons there.

During that same time frame they have already retaliated and drawn blood.

I ask those of you again saying how the US should help: how WOULD you have us help in some form of effective manner? This needless sabre rattling and calls to thrust the US military into every teeny tiny little scrap the Israelis deal with on a day-to-day basis is ridiculous.

Joe Blowme:Wicked Chinchilla: And to prove my point, right from the article:"Six Palestinian militants were killed in Israeli airstrikes on Gaza."

They had 70+ rockets fired at them plus some mortars over the course of a day resulting in 5 wounded. Real effective weapons there.

During that same time frame they have already retaliated and drawn blood.

I ask those of you again saying how the US should help: how WOULD you have us help in some form of effective manner? This needless sabre rattling and calls to thrust the US military into every teeny tiny little scrap the Israelis deal with on a day-to-day basis is ridiculous.

CUT OFF FUNDING!!!

/maybe he has me on ignore?

Nope, I don't have anyone on ignore actually.And I agree with you that the level of funding we send there should be discussed. We have valuable technical development relationships with them (and other things) that are ongoing, but do we really need to provide as much aid as we do?

give me doughnuts:uber humper: Kit Fister: Yes, because it was the USA that came up with and lead the whole return-Jerusalem-to-the-jews thing.

If the US didn't support Israel, we would still have problems with the Muslims. What country doesn't?

Even if Israel hadn't been created in the '40s, we'd still have a problem with Dar al Islam.

Oh, I agree. After the Christians and the Jews refused to help Mohammed drive the pagan Arabs out of Mecca and Medina and support his cause, he basically declared them infidels and thus started the generally standing hatred of the infidels.

Mix in a general population of uneducated people that are driven by religious fervor to follow the words of Mohammed, and you have a powder keg.

Wicked Chinchilla:Dixie_Wrecked: Egoy3k: Dixie_Wrecked: Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.

Assuming you aren't a troll, what do you think he should do exactly?

There are reasons to protect Israel. I find it funny/irritating that most farkers can't have an objective view about politics. Everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong.

Answer this question.

It has nothing to do with Republican vs. Democrat. What avenue of action is available to the US that the Israeli's can't do at all, or can't do better given their experience, locality, and resources?

This doesn't even approach the level of swatting flies. Its like shooing away gnats. Israel can handle that perfectly fine, and more ably, than the US can.

I would argue we already HAVE helped them in this regard considering our technological assistance in developing Iron Dome and other active protection and/or various detection systems.

It has nothing to do with Republican vs. Democrat.

It does because a Dem is the president therefore whatever he does will be perfect to you.

What avenue of action is available to the US that the Israeli's can't do at all, or can't do better given their experience, locality, and resources?Cut their funding. You guys are saying cut Israel's funding but I say cut the other assholes' funding. Why would you fund 2 groups who hate each other? To act like you are trying to get a long with both? Or how about so they can keep fighting each other, give Israel our new technology to test out on brown people so the US doesn't look like the bad guy?

Joe Blowme:Wicked Chinchilla: And to prove my point, right from the article:"Six Palestinian militants were killed in Israeli airstrikes on Gaza."

They had 70+ rockets fired at them plus some mortars over the course of a day resulting in 5 wounded. Real effective weapons there.

During that same time frame they have already retaliated and drawn blood.

I ask those of you again saying how the US should help: how WOULD you have us help in some form of effective manner? This needless sabre rattling and calls to thrust the US military into every teeny tiny little scrap the Israelis deal with on a day-to-day basis is ridiculous.

Dixie_Wrecked:Wicked Chinchilla: Dixie_Wrecked: Egoy3k: Dixie_Wrecked: Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.

Assuming you aren't a troll, what do you think he should do exactly?

There are reasons to protect Israel. I find it funny/irritating that most farkers can't have an objective view about politics. Everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong.

Answer this question.

It has nothing to do with Republican vs. Democrat. What avenue of action is available to the US that the Israeli's can't do at all, or can't do better given their experience, locality, and resources?

This doesn't even approach the level of swatting flies. Its like shooing away gnats. Israel can handle that perfectly fine, and more ably, than the US can.

I would argue we already HAVE helped them in this regard considering our technological assistance in developing Iron Dome and other active protection and/or various detection systems.

It has nothing to do with Republican vs. Democrat.It does because a Dem is the president therefore whatever he does will be perfect to you.

What avenue of action is available to the US that the Israeli's can't do at all, or can't do better given their experience, locality, and resources?Cut their funding. You guys are saying cut Israel's funding but I say cut the other assholes' funding. Why would you fund 2 groups who hate each other? To act like you are trying to get a long with both? Or how about so they can keep fighting each other, give Israel our new technology to test out on brown people so the US doesn't look like the bad guy?

What do you think the joint weapons development does.Also, the US doesn't provide aid to Hamas or Hamas controlled entities.so..... next question?