's job. and feel free to drive that wedge between the truth andwhatmr. ryanhasto say. >> jennifer: i think there are a lot of wedges or air that can be exposed between, for example, paul ryan and mitt romney. paul ryan's budget, huge opportunity, and of course the lies that paul ryan himself has uttered like in his convention speech. biden is not going to sit back and take that i assume. >> no, i don't think so. and i think people will be watching for daylight between paul ryan and mitt romney. paul ryan not wanting to drag his own career down with this guy who has been kind of on the losingen of the stick. we saw that happen with mccain and palin, right. somebody wanting to make their own career at the expense of someone else's. but joe biden is a thoughtful man, an experienced leader and he is committed to his partner in this, president obama. here is the other thing, joe biden is a heck of a story teller. his gaffes come with a lot of affection, because they are usually in the telling of a really important human story. >> jennifer: i agree with you. but do yo

mr. ryan, buti was especially proud of vice president biden because he hit the issues. and, again, i was reminded that although i have not forgotten, that i've been a 47% that mr. romney is not interested in. the debate went very well for mr. biden. host: thanks for calling. here's the front page of "the huffington post" online. and we want to show you the daily caller. i guess we don't have that one quite ready. next, bill in massachusetts on our republican line. caller: good morning. first, i felt martha raddatz did an excellent job. at times it seemed like ryan was debating two people, the moderator and that joe biden. ryan still kept his cool and did a great job. biden is the reincarnation of harold stasstzen. his incessant interrupting, smirks, giggles and laughing at ryan, he was trying to sucker right into losing his temper, but ryan did not fall for that. an embarrassing display of buffoonery. i am interested to see what mr. obama's supporters will say today, their tone. i think they will be running scared. host: this morning we are using span2012 if you would like to make a

, what do you think--mr. ryan--steve kornacki? >> i i've always been impressed by joe biden. the reason he ended up on the ticket in 2008 is because of all those primary dietz bates, when it was hillary and obama were the stars, but the guy invariably we end up saying won those debates was joe biden. he's a strong communicator, very good in the debate setting. i expect him to press the case in a way we didn't see last week. how ryan handles that is really the $1 million question. >> steve thank you for your time tonight. >> sure. >>> catch steve on "the cycle" weekdays at 3:00 eastern right here on msnbc. >>> still ahead, was there an intervention in the romney campaign? news tonight about a big fight inside team romney. >>> rudy giuliani think about it, there is only three, a noun a verbal and 9/11 nothing else. i've been negotiating since you were in congress. if you all had been around enough -- maybe i've been around too long they forget all the wonderful things i've done -- but all siding aside -- walk around in my neighborhood or go up to scran

smirked and rolled his eyes,andmr. ryanspokeand laughed atst..mr. ryanwasmore earnest and polite, taking a sip of water between answers, listening to mr. biden, who he called joe. a little take from the analysis in carolco." and decided -- analysis from the journal co -- "the wall street journal." caller: i decided after last night -- i listened to congressman ryan. he is not a leader. he is a follower. he said a lot of ignorant things. he did not answer any questions. he stumbled over a lot of his words. , askings on pointpointm questions. yet people going bare feet and wal-mart, and this man is trying to help -- host: will leave your comment there, and we will go to j ohn in new hampshire. why are you undecided? caller: ossapeak. i have not heard in the clear plan from either side. i may laid off executive, trying to find a job like what i was doing before, even beyond that, maybe even about a different career. i am not hearing any clarity. i am hearing name calling. it seems to be -- and my fear is we will end up with another four years of a stalemate, with not being -- with n

it of the 43-year-oldcandidate,mr. ryan, whoacted in a calm, cool, reasonable reserved way. not the old politician with 36 years in the senate. watching it, really reminded me of -- >> -- you have an example, peter, of what you say are the scare tactics used in this -- >> -- let's look at it. [ laughter ] [scary. [ laughter ] >> that was -- that was unintentional. but that. >> that's frightening. >> play it again. i think it's important. let's play that again. let see what that is that is dr. evil on one side. now joe biden is not dr. evil. is he an honorable american investor isn't a and patriot. when you look at this kind of unhinged unbridled, unfettered that michael laughing and looking up at the sky and throwing your eyes back and throwing your head back and looking and interrupting 80 different times, you say, you know, has he he become a movie character? are the gaffes intentional? or are the gaffes not intentional? can he control himself or can he not control himself? can he he control himself when he takes about benghazi and blows out the state department and comes up with a ne

's performance in kentucky fairly low, perhaps an advantage for him, 40% say they expectcongressmanryanwilldo a better job in the debate. 34% for mr. biden. as for the moderator, abc news insists there will be no conflict of interest. they revealed that barack obama attended her wedding in 1999 when a student at harvard law school. the man she married was later the head of the fcc by president obama in 2009. that is 12 years after raddatz divorced him. this is absurd, martha raddatz is known for her tough, fair reporting which is why it was no surprise to her colleagues inside and outside abc news she was chosen for this assignment. congressman ryan arrived in danville early last night. vice president biden spent last night in delaware. he'll arrive in kentucky later today. speaking of debates, last night was round three in that closely contested u.s. senate race up in massachusetts. republican senator scott brown, democratic challenger elizabeth warren facing off in springfield, mass, as two new polls are split on which candidates as the advantage there. unlike the first two debates, last ni

>>> good morning. combative and confrontational, joe biden andpaulryancomeout swinging in their one and only vice presidential debate. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch of ma larky. >> mr. vice president, i know -- mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground. >> but without a clear winner, did the debate matter? >>> dire threat. defense secretary leon panetta issues a chilling warning about computer hackers. a scenario he describes as a possible cyber pearl harbor that could be as destructive as the 9/11 attacks. we're live at the pentagon. >>> and hello, brooklyn. the legendary barbra streisand takes the stage in her hometown for the very first time. ♪ beneath the moon, the stars and under the sun ♪ >> a homecoming concert decades in the making today, friday, october 12th, 2012. >>> from nbc news, this is a special edition of "today," decision 2012, with matt lauer and savannah guthrie. live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. >>> and good morning. welcome to "today" on a friday morning. i'm matt lawer. >> good morning,

that obama had a bad debate, didn't do what he was supposed to do butmr. romneylied. >> bill: you are absolutely right. again, i compared romney's debate performance to the ryan speech in tampa. it was a good performance but it was packed with lies. i think the entire media was focusing on stage craft and performance or entertainment or acting ability and not on the substance of what they said. on the substance of what he said mitt romney simply did not tell the truth about the $5 million, about health care, about a whole lot of stuff. kevin in chicago, kevin getting rid of big bird good idea? >> caller: yeah, my granddaughter is four years old, so i'm ul up to speed on big bird. and it brings back memories of when my kids were young. >> bill: same here. >> caller: it is just an example of the crap that comes out of his mouth. they don't realize the value of putting something on tv for the kids to watch -- >> bill: and learn, yeah. >> caller: and the whole industry that has spawned off of it of the kids toy, and everything -- >> bill: you got it. big bird is a

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