Most probably come from the Mexican military or Police (corruption) or through the BATF (more corruption). What I can pretty much guarantee you is that fully automatic weapons are not coming from American civilians. They are too rare and too expensive.

Done by a shop assistant? BTW wikipedia says BATF controls only sellers. So how is it checked?

It is called in to the ATF, ID and any purchasing permits scanned, and name is run. Paperwork is filled out and must be kept on record for a number of years.

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Michal may have noticed the signs behind the firearms in the photos he posted noting that Federal laws regarding purchase would be recognized.

Yeah... The first one is to be older than 21? What are the others two? One cannot wear a prison uniform or a foreign military uniform? One cannot be an evil alien?

The first is 21 to buy a handgun OR handgun ammunition. Second is 18 to buy a rifle or shotgun or their corresponding ammunition. Third would be to have valid identification (for the BATF check and yellow form I mentioned above).

Your extrapolations about a Country I doubt you'd ever even been to are matched only by your phallic fixations.

You write that in the USA people are raped, robbed or murdered all the time. The state is too weak to protect the citizens (or the citizens do not want to be protected) so everyone own a gun (or a dozen). Guns are able to be bought everywhere including internet shops and supermarkets. Even small children own them and are taught to shoot. The state also cannot provide medical healthcare and education for its people. Authorities from all political options speak all the time about God and religion. The state regularly starts wars with other countries - these are the characteristics of a third world post-colonial country like Palestine, Syria or Somalia.

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I would be happy to agree with you, but then both of us would be wrong.

Your extrapolations about a Country I doubt you'd ever even been to are matched only by your phallic fixations.

You write that in the USA people are raped, robbed or murdered all the time. The state is too weak to protect the citizens (or the citizens do not want to be protected) so everyone own a gun (or a dozen). Guns are able to be bought everywhere including internet shops and supermarkets. Even small children own them and are taught to shoot. The state also cannot provide medical healthcare and education for its people. Authorities from all political options speak all the time about God and religion. The state regularly starts wars with other countries - these are the characteristics of a third world post-colonial country like Palestine, Syria or Somalia.

I didn't realize everyone in Poland had a state appointed bodyguard that not only followed you around, but slept with you.

Your extrapolations about a Country I doubt you'd ever even been to are matched only by your phallic fixations.

You write that in the USA people are raped, robbed or murdered all the time. The state is too weak to protect the citizens (or the citizens do not want to be protected) so everyone own a gun (or a dozen). Guns are able to be bought everywhere including internet shops and supermarkets. Even small children own them and are taught to shoot. The state also cannot provide medical healthcare and education for its people. Authorities from all political options speak all the time about God and religion. The state regularly starts wars with other countries - these are the characteristics of a third world post-colonial country like Palestine, Syria or Somalia.

I didn't realize everyone in Poland had a state appointed bodyguard that not only followed you around, but slept with you.

Yeah right. If this were true and the bodyguard were a Polish chick I'd have long ago emigrated.

Yes, vamrat would totally give up his gunz and third world/fourth rome gangsta lifestyle and live in Michal-Kalinaland for any of them (though preferably the brunette on the left).

Your extrapolations about a Country I doubt you'd ever even been to are matched only by your phallic fixations.

You write that in the USA people are raped, robbed or murdered all the time. The state is too weak to protect the citizens (or the citizens do not want to be protected) so everyone own a gun (or a dozen). Guns are able to be bought everywhere including internet shops and supermarkets. Even small children own them and are taught to shoot. The state also cannot provide medical healthcare and education for its people. Authorities from all political options speak all the time about God and religion. The state regularly starts wars with other countries - these are the characteristics of a third world post-colonial country like Palestine, Syria or Somalia.

But it is strong enough to have the largest proportionate number of citizens in jail in the world.

Yeah, I forgot about several things: world's biggest prison ratio, forcing confessions under torture, jailing people without trial and great influence of the army - these are also marks of some third world dictatorship.

We get it. America is filled with evil yahoo cowboys who enjoy actions never seen in any other part of the world, ever. Your first hand accounting and experience of American society is spot on.

Your extrapolations about a Country I doubt you'd ever even been to are matched only by your phallic fixations.

You write that in the USA people are raped, robbed or murdered all the time. The state is too weak to protect the citizens (or the citizens do not want to be protected) so everyone own a gun (or a dozen). Guns are able to be bought everywhere including internet shops and supermarkets. Even small children own them and are taught to shoot. The state also cannot provide medical healthcare and education for its people. Authorities from all political options speak all the time about God and religion. The state regularly starts wars with other countries - these are the characteristics of a third world post-colonial country like Palestine, Syria or Somalia.

But it is strong enough to have the largest proportionate number of citizens in jail in the world.

Yeah, I forgot about several things: world's biggest prison ratio, forcing confessions under torture, jailing people without trial and great influence of the army - these are also marks of some third world dictatorship.

We get it. America is filled with evil yahoo cowboys who enjoy actions never seen in any other part of the world, ever. Your first hand accounting and experience of American society is spot on.

Your extrapolations about a Country I doubt you'd ever even been to are matched only by your phallic fixations.

You write that in the USA people are raped, robbed or murdered all the time. The state is too weak to protect the citizens (or the citizens do not want to be protected) so everyone own a gun (or a dozen). Guns are able to be bought everywhere including internet shops and supermarkets. Even small children own them and are taught to shoot. The state also cannot provide medical healthcare and education for its people. Authorities from all political options speak all the time about God and religion. The state regularly starts wars with other countries - these are the characteristics of a third world post-colonial country like Palestine, Syria or Somalia.

But it is strong enough to have the largest proportionate number of citizens in jail in the world.

Yeah, I forgot about several things: world's biggest prison ratio, forcing confessions under torture, jailing people without trial and great influence of the army - these are also marks of some third world dictatorship.

We get it. America is filled with evil yahoo cowboys who enjoy actions never seen in any other part of the world, ever. Your first hand accounting and experience of American society is spot on.

Your extrapolations about a Country I doubt you'd ever even been to are matched only by your phallic fixations.

You write that in the USA people are raped, robbed or murdered all the time. The state is too weak to protect the citizens (or the citizens do not want to be protected) so everyone own a gun (or a dozen). Guns are able to be bought everywhere including internet shops and supermarkets. Even small children own them and are taught to shoot. The state also cannot provide medical healthcare and education for its people. Authorities from all political options speak all the time about God and religion. The state regularly starts wars with other countries - these are the characteristics of a third world post-colonial country like Palestine, Syria or Somalia.

But it is strong enough to have the largest proportionate number of citizens in jail in the world.

Yeah, I forgot about several things: world's biggest prison ratio, forcing confessions under torture, jailing people without trial and great influence of the army - these are also marks of some third world dictatorship.

We get it. America is filled with evil yahoo cowboys who enjoy actions never seen in any other part of the world, ever. Your first hand accounting and experience of American society is spot on.

Kalina thinks that?

There's 12 pages here. Ye'll find it somewhere herein.

America would be so much more fun with evil yahoo cowboys...actually the whole world would be.

The tone of this thread is in itself disturbing, on an Orthodox Christian website.

Now correct me if I am wrong but hasn't there been a big scandal around the ATF, guns smuggled down into Mexico under their watchful eye and then for some the same guns to pop up back in the US and be used against folks there?

The tone of this thread is in itself disturbing, on an Orthodox Christian website.

Now correct me if I am wrong but hasn't there been a big scandal around the ATF, guns smuggled down into Mexico under their watchful eye and then for some the same guns to pop up back in the US and be used against folks there?

First sentence: Yes, the tone of many threads can be considered disturbing. Some of it is people just being silly and childish (like me ). Some of it is, well.....disturbing.

The tone of this thread is in itself disturbing, on an Orthodox Christian website.

Now correct me if I am wrong but hasn't there been a big scandal around the ATF, guns smuggled down into Mexico under their watchful eye and then for some the same guns to pop up back in the US and be used against folks there?

First sentence: Yes, the tone of many threads can be considered disturbing. Some of it is people just being silly and childish (like me ). Some of it is, well.....disturbing.

Second sentence: You are not wrong.

The only thing he is wrong on was the "big scandal" bit. The perpetrators are coated in teflon.

The tone of this thread is in itself disturbing, on an Orthodox Christian website.

Now correct me if I am wrong but hasn't there been a big scandal around the ATF, guns smuggled down into Mexico under their watchful eye and then for some the same guns to pop up back in the US and be used against folks there?

First sentence: Yes, the tone of many threads can be considered disturbing. Some of it is people just being silly and childish (like me ). Some of it is, well.....disturbing.

Second sentence: You are not wrong.

The only thing he is wrong on was the "big scandal" bit. The perpetrators are coated in teflon.

When the perps are the gummint, they're always teflonated--that is, until some kind of scape goat is needed. For the rest of us, especially the people killed and their friends and families, yeah...big scandal. (This might end up in "Politics" )