Rochelle wrote:So I'm guessing next year we can expect a 9.7 average start and a 15.5 average finish like Ryan has this year despite TG???

Maybe that's not fair, Ryan's 1st full cup year he had a 9.8 average start and a 14.5 average finish. Wait, they're almost the same... Never mind...

Oops, pardon my posting Ryan stats on Danica's thread... my bad

...can't sh*t all over TG for 3 years and then think he's "all that" all of a sudden...hyprocrisy...anyone...right...

Nope, I agree. For some reason, sarcasm isn't recognized on this site. Neither is hypocrisy, hence the blocking debacle. Giving anyone TG is a death sentence as far as I'm concerned. Point I was making was that even though Ryan didn't make the chase, his stats are not that bad, even with TG. He's a strong driver with 10 years experience in cup. Danica won't have a chance unless, for some reason, her and TG click. Zippy seems to think it will work and I have no idea why. I'm not a fan but they seem to be setting her up to fail. And whether I like her as a driver or not, that ain't cool...

Just to clarify, TG's face has only been at the bottom of my toilet bowl this year...

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe" - Friedrich Nietzsche

...o.k., I don't sh*t on people for their opinions(like most seem to)...but, remember...Danica is learning a WHOLE new style of driving, and with a CC that EVERY Ryan fan sh*t all over for the last 4 years...it won't be an easy task. I wish Ryan the best(it can ONLY help SHR as a whole if he runs better, better telemetry as a whole for the organization...like HMS...4 guys in the Chase...anyone????) But, Danica...she's got a task ahead of her, maybe the biggest challenge of her career...just think we can give her a bit of a break...for a bit...ESPECIALLY considering her CC...

When she struggles it wont be just because she has a horrible CC. She could have the best CC ever, & she will still struggle. With that said I still feel bad for her getting TG, but it makes sense. Whoever her 1st CC is wont be her CC when she starts doing well. So why waste a better CC that in the end wont be there. let her get her major part of her learning curve with TG, & grow into a better CC down the road.

The thing is, he wont be the only reason she does bad next year, but he will be a great counterpoint to anyone that mentions her struggles. Which I can only envision into long drawn out banter back & forth for no reason at all.

Schmoopy1000 wrote:When she struggles it wont be just because she has a horrible CC. She could have the best CC ever, & she will still struggle. With that said I still feel bad for her getting TG, but it makes sense. Whoever her 1st CC is wont be her CC when she starts doing well. So why waste a better CC that in the end wont be there. let her get her major part of her learning curve with TG, & grow into a better CC down the road.

The thing is, he wont be the only reason she does bad next year, but he will be a great counterpoint to anyone that mentions her struggles. Which I can only envision into long drawn out banter back & forth for no reason at all.

...unerstood, Schmoopy...you're about the ONLY one that there is to make SENSE to here...