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Re: Ian Mahinmi to Indiana

if we could of got a 1st rd pick without having to take back a bad contract im sure we would of done that. But realistically name a team who would give a 1st for DC?? I just don't see it he is a decent backup to ok starter but in this era of pgs there must be 50 guys like that in the NBA.

I was one that said he was not 1st round pick worthy in my view, but for a team that needs PG depth badly, Pacers could have atleast got a 2nd round pick from the Mavs, I mean Kyle Lowry was traded for not just a 1st rounder but a lottery pick.

I always thought DC's trade value was a early 2nd, unless there was a team that needed a strong backup PG.

Re: Ian Mahinmi to Indiana

Between this highway robbery and the solid one-year, $8 million deal for Chris Kaman, the Mavs appear to have most of their work done. The team has more than $5 million in cap space available (I mistakenly tweeted $4 million Wednesday, but I hadn't removed Mahinmi's cap hold), which may be enough to win an amnesty auction for another solid player on a one-year deal, Elton Brand. If not, other frontcourt options are out there.

How about this.... DC and DJones for Ian and Elton Brand? What if as part of this trade they limited Dallas bid on Brand to 5 million? That would mean the Pacers can bid 6 and there you go. Possible?

Re: Ian Mahinmi to Indiana

I was one that said he was not 1st round pick worthy in my view, but for a team that needs PG depth badly, Pacers could have atleast got a 2nd round pick from the Mavs, I mean Kyle Lowry was traded for not just a 1st rounder but a lottery pick.

I always thought DC's trade value was a early 2nd, unless there was a team that needed a strong backup PG.

Kyle Lowry played at an all star level last year. He was snubbed off the team do to depth but to put DC and Lowry in the same value ring isnt near true IMO.

Re: Ian Mahinmi to Indiana

First, ESPN's writers were laughing at us about the Plumlee pick.

Now ESPN's writers are laughing at us about the Collison trade.

I really hope we make people eat their words but it's pretty depressing when just about every sports writer and every fan think the moves we're making are stupid. It seems to be only Walsh, Pritchard, Bird and whoever else in the first office that think these are good moves. They better be right.

"I have never taken the high road, but I tell other people to ’cause then there’s more room for me on the low road."

Re: Ian Mahinmi to Indiana

A salary dump? they were not making much... and to me their value was greater than their salaries.

Good view.

1.2 mil is the savings between DC & Dahntay's salary and the 4 mil for Mahinmi. Did the Pacers need the mil plus savings that badly? As Hollinger stated they could have just signed Mahinmi outright. Interested in seeing what else if anything the FO has coming up.

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Re: Ian Mahinmi to Indiana

It added 5 million (4 million with the Ian cap hold release) or so to the Mavs cap though...

The numbers Ive heard make sense, I saw something yesterday Brand could get bid on as much as 9 million from Mavs, then Hollinger says they only have 5 million today, post moves last night. If you know the most cap room/highest bid the Mavs could make, you could get Brand for just over that for one year. I'd go so far to say, if they were really trying to sign and trade Tyler for DJ, that they had to have another PF lined up.... like Brand.

Of course I could be wrong but I think its possible if the numbers are correct.

In that scenario its DC/DJones/Hansbrough for Mahinmi, DJ, Green, and Brand, essentially. Thats a great haul for an expiring and two guys you weren't keeping past this year anyway, imo.

Re: Ian Mahinmi to Indiana

I'm sorry. I've tried to wait a few days to let myself settle, but I am really disheartened by picking up Mahinmi. He's okay and had a few moments last season, but I simply can't put a positive spin on this, for me. I find Ian's basketball IQ suspect. I greet this acquisition with as much enthusiasm as picking up Solomon Jones. What REALLY bothers me is seeing Gustavo Ayon going to Orlando for Ryan Anderson. THAT is a guy I can see really fitting in here and considering what Orlando gave up for him, we could have matched that easily. I am more than willing to give him a chance, but this just feels like another move towards mediocrity.

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Re: Ian Mahinmi to Indiana

1.2 mil is the savings between DC & Dahntay's salary and the 4 mil for Mahinmi. Did the Pacers need the mil plus savings that badly? As Hollinger stated they could have just signed Mahinmi outright. Interested in seeing what else if anything the FO has coming up.

Dumping DC and Dahntay saved $5.2 million this year over signing Mahinmi outright.

And they've already upgraded Dahntay's spot at a cost of $3 million (or whatever Green's first year salary is).

I really hope we make people eat their words but it's pretty depressing when just about every sports writer and every fan think the moves we're making are stupid. It seems to be only Walsh, Pritchard, Bird and whoever else in the first office that think these are good moves. They better be right.

Don't single out ESPN--all the national media outlets have poked fun at the Plumlee pick and the Collison trade.

Re: Ian Mahinmi to Indiana

You can claim him, you just cant trade him if you do. You have to keep an amnestied player for at least a year.

I'm talking about claiming Brand via a silent bid via waivers....What I'm saying is if its the Mavs and Pacers bidding for Brand and you can only bid what cap room you have available; giving the mavs 4 million in extra salary in DC/DJones, only puts them 5 million under the cap; the Pacers would bid slightly higher and could get Brand and keep him for a year. Prior to the trade Mavs could have bid up to 9 million for Brand off the waiver wire.