@StateMan08 Well, to say that the SEC has 'NOTHING' on the Big 12 this year is somewhat of an overstatement. I believe that the BIg 12 is overall a better conference when measuring each time as a part of the median/mean/mode, but that doesn't really mean a whole lot to us if Alabama (or another team - hey, anything can happen in college football) wins the national title game. I think ultimately it will be either Alabama vs Oregon, or Alabama vs West Virginia. Then again... I'm short on my wins in the bets department, and it is too early to come to any conclusion in that regard. Go Cyclones!

@dynamitefan2 I think that this is by and large a fair statement. It is unfair to remove the successes and judge an individual only on the failures. At the same time, if this success was not a product of Chizik, meaning you could put anyone in that situation and they would win, would it be fair to assume the same? Of course, you would also have to apply that logic to the reverse; put a any legendary coach in his place during the failures and would they also have the same seasons? I'm not sure. Overall, a well thought out statement, dynamitefan2. Unfortunately, the currency of coaching is measured only in wins, and Chizik's account is currently in the red.

@DawgInMemphis@StateMan08 I would say that the Big 12 is generally the better conference when weighing all teams and creating an average. The SEC has some elite teams, but it also has some teams that are not good. Place Alabama against any team and it wins 99% of the time, but this is one end of the spectrum. I would support the statement that the SEC has the best team(s) in the nation, but not that it is the deepest conference if the measure includes all members as an average, or median.