Mothers sells a kit for ~$18, it includes a spray bottle of some snake oil, a small bottle of wax and a ball of silly-putty looking stuff. You spray your car down and then rub the silly-putty over the body. It pulls out dirt from the paint and smoothes the surface unbelievable. I was working in the garage last night and had some extra time and two beers left so I did my bike with it. The deep cranberry paint is soooo deep now. I also ran it across the plastic/lexan windshield. It removed all the swirl marks from years of waxing attempts. It looks brand new.

I suggest to anyone doing a clay bar treatment on their car to put a sealer on the paint before waxing. 3M makes a couple as well as Mothers and Meguiars among others. It will keep the color deeper and prettier longer.

Yeah clay bars are awesome. For people that have never used em, if you rub your hand accross your car after you wash it, you'll notice that there are really tiny bumps of what I assume to be little bits of dirt or whatever that stuck to the paint. After using the clay bar, you rub your hand on the same spot and it feels as smooth as a new piece of glass and looks good too.

Clay is great, but you don't need to spend megabucks on the kits, do it the Grassroots way!

Go to your local craft store or even the craft department of Wal Mart and buy a package of their synthetic clay. It usually comes in a package of colored strips. Now you have a large amount of clay so you can make a good hand sized wad that is much easier to work with than those stingy little balls they give you with the kits.

The liquid that comes in the kits is simply a detergent/water mix to make it slippery. You can use a car wash/water mix or a Dawn dishwashing soap/water mix. I prefer Dawn. The experts recommend washing with Dawn occasionally to strip the old wax anyway.

This will give you several clay kits for quite a bit less than the cost of just one of the Automotive kits. It works great! I've done it this way for years and my cars look great.

You are supposed to rework the clay occasionally to work the contaminants into the clay ball and keep them off the surface so they don't scratch the paint. That is so much easier when you have a large wad of clay than one of those teeny little balls like comes with the kits.

If you drop your ball on the ground, with the expensive kit that comes with only one ball you have to take the time to pick all the little pieces of dirt and grass out and hope you've got all the grit out, with the cheap stuff you just toss it.

When you use clay sometimes little bits will adhere to the car and they can be a bugger to get off. This usually happens when you've hit too dry of a spot, an extra dirty spot or over a seam. I like to use a contrasting color clay so that it is easy to spot and I can go back over that spot with the bar until I have all the clay off the car.

We spent a good portion of 4th July w/e clay-barring my daily driver... she was long overdue... just used the clay bar and soapy water... :( ...then 5 coats of Zaino... unfortunately, a dark blue car looks dirty pretty quickly...

All the clay I have right now is in an opened package, but I will look for it in the store tomorrow.

I don't believe it's really totally synthetic, although it could be, I think it is more of something has been added to the medium to make it smoother and more malleable. That's why I like it better, it's easier to use in cold weather.

A lab technician friend of mine took samples of the "real" car clay and the couple of brands we bought and put them under the microscope to see if there were any differences. Read that to mean was the cheaper stuff gonna scratch the paint.

He couldn't find any real differences by look, but he did say the particles in all the clays were rougher than we'd imagined. He told me that if he didn't know it worked he would have thought it was too rough. So it appears clay really is a fine polishing medium.

I got this tip from my Dad. He saw me using the bought and paid for stuff and laughed at me. It seems that body guys were using clay for a long time before this stuff appeared on the market. And he thought it was funny I was using this expensive stuff.

carguy123 wrote:
All the clay I have right now is in an opened package, but I will look for it in the store tomorrow.
I don't believe it's really totally synthetic, although it could be, I think it is more of something has been added to the medium to make it smoother and more malleable. That's why I like it better, it's easier to use in cold weather.
A lab technician friend of mine took samples of the "real" car clay and the couple of brands we bought and put them under the microscope to see if there were any differences. Read that to mean was the cheaper stuff gonna scratch the paint.
He couldn't find any real differences by look, but he did say the particles in all the clays were rougher than we'd imagined. He told me that if he didn't know it worked he would have thought it was too rough. So it appears clay really is a fine polishing medium.
I got this tip from my Dad. He saw me using the bought and paid for stuff and laughed at me. It seems that body guys were using clay for a long time before this stuff appeared on the market. And he thought it was funny I was using this expensive stuff.

carguy123 wrote:
He couldn't find any real differences by look, but he did say the particles in all the clays were rougher than we'd imagined. He told me that if he didn't know it worked he would have thought it was too rough. So it appears clay really is a fine polishing medium.
I got this tip from my Dad. He saw me using the bought and paid for stuff and laughed at me. It seems that body guys were using clay for a long time before this stuff appeared on the market. And he thought it was funny I was using this expensive stuff.

It's not a polisher, it actually lifts dirt out of the paint. If you look at a pain chip in a microscope it's not smooth; it has peaks and valleys and dirt gets trapped in those valleys. What the clay does is attract the dirt, lifting it out of the paint.