Just bought a tv that records video in a usb drive but can't open them on my pc.tried VLC WMP classic and others, also installed latest K-Lite códec pack full and nothing, HELP!I'm on Windows 8 64 bits.

Last edited by kantazo on Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:28 pm, edited 4 times in total.

TS should be an MPEG2 Transport Stream but it's anyone's guess whether the TV is encoding something proprietary within the file container. You might need to use something like a DVD/BRD ripper and a re-encode with Handbrake in order to view them on a PC (which probably defeats the purpose of an easy DVR solution you were hoping for). Did you try opening them with an actual DVD or BRD software player such as PowerDVD?

If the content is indeed encrypted or copy protected, then discussion of tools to remove that protection is against the forum rules, as circumvention of copy protection is a violation of the DMCA in the US (where this site is based).

If it can be determined that this is merely a format conversion issue (and not a copy protection issue), then this discussion can continue; otherwise not.

Just because it is on free broadcast TV doesn't mean it isn't copyrighted.

I have no idea how the copyright laws work over there in Spain, but here's the situation in the US: Copying for personal "fair use" purposes (e.g. time shifting) is permitted, but circumvention of DRM is not. So we're in the rather bizarre situation where the tools needed to exercise your fair use rights are technically illegal! US broadcasters are also implementing something called the broadcast flag, extending DRM to free over-the-air programming as well.

Sounds like Europe does not have an equivalent of the broadcast flag (yet), so at least you're in the clear there. But *if* the reason you can't play these files on your PC is some form of DRM, I'm afraid we can't discuss how to get around it here.

I honestly don't know enough about your TV or what the issue might actually be to say one way or the other. The thread will remain open for now, since based on the information we have so far it isn't yet clear whether this is a DRM issue.

just brew it! wrote:Just because it is on free broadcast TV doesn't mean it isn't copyrighted.

I have no idea how the copyright laws work over there in Spain, but here's the situation in the US: Copying for personal "fair use" purposes (e.g. time shifting) is permitted, but circumvention of DRM is not. So we're in the rather bizarre situation where the tools needed to exercise your fair use rights are technically illegal! US broadcasters are also implementing something called the broadcast flag, extending DRM to free over-the-air programming as well.

Sounds like Europe does not have an equivalent of the broadcast flag (yet), so at least you're in the clear there. But *if* the reason you can't play these files on your PC is some form of DRM, I'm afraid we can't discuss how to get around it here.

Copyright and DRM are really two separate issues. Virtually every broadcast out there has been copyrighted since the very beginning. Even discussion of encryption methods is a gray area with regards to the DMCA, heck even intel has a fair amount of discussion and white papers on items like HDCP.

Can you upload a small file somewhere so I can look at it and try it out?I was playing .TS files 5-6 years ago, so u must be missing something.Again, make sure it is legit first and not copy righted; maybe an ad or something.

I'd try mplayer on it. It may be a multiplex so you might have to select the correct stream in the channel. If you can upload a small snippet as Dposcorp says then I can try taking a look at it. If not, at least post what mplayer says when you run it on the file.

from my reading on the web it sounds like this likely has encryption included in the transport streams so you aren't going to have any luck in reading them. That seems to be common with most of the Freeview PVRs.

just brew it! wrote:If the content is indeed encrypted or copy protected, then discussion of tools to remove that protection is against the forum rules, as circumvention of copy protection is a violation of the DMCA in the US (where this site is based).

If it can be determined that this is merely a format conversion issue (and not a copy protection issue), then this discussion can continue; otherwise not.

Really, TR's policing policy on DRM is asinine. There are 120 comments on that story (above) alone, most of which involve ripping a Blu-ray into another format to defeat the DRM, and not a single moderator jumping in with the infamous Rule # 1 wrist slapping. Let's make this an all or none policy, please. Ban me or whatever, but it's just asinine and does not stand up to scrutiny.

MOD EDIT - This is warning; don't threadcrapIf you have a issue with the above, start your own thread; don't crap in someone else'sYou are wrong and comparing apples to oranges.The forums have Mod's; the front page news posts are policed by top level management so feel free to email them.

Thanks for that. I've taken a look at it and I'm afraid I have no idea what it is. It is definitely not an MPEG2 Transport Stream, not even the encrypted version. When TV is transmitted encrypted, then the MPEG2 TS header is still in plain text, just the data packets are encoded and the file doesn't have MPEG2 TS headers as far as I can tell.

I Googled a bit and all I could find were other people posting the same problem with OKI TVs. I don't think you are going to have any luck with this.

Going to bed and will try more stuff later, but wanted to give you guys a chuckle.I went to http://www.zamzar.com/ since they advertise free converting of .ts files and then they email them back to you in your pre-chosed format.I got this email:

Hello from Zamzar !

There was a problem converting your file - We attempted to perform the conversion you requested from ts to mpg but unfortunately the conversion failed - our support team have been notified and are looking into the problem. Please click here if you would like to try and perform your conversion again. Conversion failed for the following file:

1test2.ts

Please do not reply to this automatically-generated email. If you have any questions, please email us at support@zamzar.com

For what it’s worth: It didn’t work on an–almost–up–to–date MPlayer2 (a fork of MPlayer), with FFmpeg that was just compiled yesterday from Git (revision N-50552-g8cc5481) (FFmpeg is the important part here).