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On God’s Law, Sarah Palin and Proposition 8

I’ve been doing a lot of reading recently on the “Mommy Wars” set off when John McCain nominated Sarah Palin for his VP. I pretty much agree with the stance taken on this by those at Ladies Against Feminism and Vision Forum. From these sources, I have really been learning a lot about having more of a Christian worldview in all areas of life. The Bible requires manhood as the first primary qualification of any civil magistrate.

But I’ve been thinking a lot more recently about the importance of Proposition 8 passing here in California. I’ve been doing more reading and studying and listening to an R. C. Sproul CD series of messages on the Church and the State. I am now convinced that, if Proposition 8 fails in California, that represents the failure of Christianity in California. Period. “Homosexual marriage” is a contradiction in terms. Imagine the absurd conversations that would happen soon if homosexual marriage gained ground and became accepted in society. Upon seeing the wedding ring on the finger of someone you just met, you would have to ask the person: “Are you married to a man or a woman?” If that’s a logical question, then why not ask: “Are you a man or a woman?” Because, after all, don’t homosexual men say they’re a woman in a man’s body (and vice versa)? It would be like living in Alice In Wonderland. Once we depart from God’s definitions anything at all, things get strange very quickly. The homosexual imposters who think they are now married (such as my next door neighbors–I’m not joking–my lesbian next door neighbors had their “wedding” last month and their “honeymoon” in Aruba) are in reality trying for abolition of God’s law throughout the land. To accept this and not to fight it is to deny the faith! Why do I say this? Because, a few tyrannical judges in the judicial branch of the State have made decided to redefine marriage. Clearly, they have exalted themselves as lords above God. Accepting this would require us to accept the State as god and deny the Lordship of Christ. That puts Christians back where they were in Caesar’s day, when Caesar exalted himself as god. In the Great Commision, Jesus taught us to teach all peoples to obey all of His commandments. Not just the politically correct commandments. How can we let go of God-ordained marriage without a fight to the death????

I walked precincts last Saturday for the http://www.ProtectMarriage.com campaign, and I was the only Christian in the group from my zip code. The rest were all Mormons from the same Stake. Where are the believers?? Why aren’t they acting? Why aren’t they fired up against those tyrants who want to abolish godly marriage? Make no mistake–that’s just what will happen, in effect, if Prop 8 fails. Look, in European countries that have legalized homosexual marriage, heterosexual people don’t even bother to get married anymore. But of course. To change the definition of marriage like this is to dilute it. If you dilute it, you kill it. Not to mention the unmentionable state-sanctioned abuse of children that would also result from homosexual “marriage!” Christians of California, stand up for God’s ways, and fight the godless paganism that has swept our land!! Do it for the sake of the children!

It seems to me that Christians have self-silenced based on the prevailing doctrine of the land: the absolute truth of political correctness. I know I’m guilty of so doing. I often wonder why I and other Christians, when we hear someone say, “gay people didn’t choose to be gay, so they should be accepted and we should respect them as long as they’re in committed, monogomous relationships,” we Christians inwardly rebuke the statement, but outwardly give tacit approval by not immediately denouncing it as totally immoral, based on God’s Law. This silence gives tacit approval to their deception. And with Christians out of the way (simply because we’ve allowed ourselves to be intimidated into silence) the homosexual activists have managed to turn public opinion in their favor in a much shorter time than one would have expected! I’ve decided enough is enough. It’s almost like we Christians are submitting to the same mindset that the Jews in the Polish ghettos passively accepted–silencing ourselves for fear of repercussions. And thus, making ourselves powerless as they make us more and more marginalized, moving us more and more to the outskirts of society. No. It’s time for God’s people to “come out of the closet!” God alone is Sovereign over all that is in the earth, and His Law on sexuality has never been repealed. Sexual immorality of all kinds, including homosexuality, is breaking God’s Law. Marriage was created by God alone, not by man, not by government, and certainly not by a few tyrannical judges in San Francisco! God is the Creator of all things, therefore He gets to define His creation, its boundaries, and its purposes. The laws man makes must be within His terms. Otherwise, we’re making ourselves out to be gods. That is what the state is doing now. I think Christians have to stand up, like our ancient Brethren did in the days of Caesar, and say, “Christ is Lord,” not the State! If we are persecuted for so doing, then we are in the company of the brave. Christ was crucified because of lawlessness, and those involved in it must repent and receive Christ’s unmatchable love and forgiveness, or else be judged for eternity in Hell. That is God’s truth. That is what we need to speak loudly and not fear the repercussions!

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DO you realize that when you limit the rights of others, when you discriminate, that t puts YOU at risk for discrimination? Your logic makes it easier for people to say that catholics ought not to have rights, what with their archaic ways and their archaic book.

I would fight for your rights to exist, practice, pray, marry, vote, be a neighbor, etc. Why wouldn’t you fight for mine? As a catholic, I learned that Jesus teaches us to turn the other cheek, to so unto others as we would have them do unto us. That I why I would fight to protect your rights. I would hope you’d do that for me. Where are the believers. We are right here. We ARE your neighbors.

Finally, no, of course you would not have to ask everyone with a wedding ring on if they are married to a man or woman. Basically, it’s best to avoid assumptions anyway. Would you assume, for example, that a woman wearing a wedding ring is married to a living person? Perhaps her husband died. So when you invite her and her husband over for dinner, and she tells you he recently died, you apologize and move on. It’s hardly the end of the world.

And gay men do not necessarily feel like women trapped in the bodies of men. Some heterosexual men feel like women in the bodies of men. Again, one cannot make assumptions about how someone else feels. Essentially, you are mistaking a homosexual for a transgender person, anyway. Don’t fear social change. It will not hurt you. In fact, it can only help you in that you will have the support of your happy fellow gay brothers and sisters. Now isn’t that what Jesus would do? Wouldn’t he be loving and supportive rather than hateful and vitriolic?

For the past 2.5 years, our next door neighbors have been a couple named Linda and Alice (not their real names). Back in August, Linda told me: “We’re getting married this Friday. Our honeymoon is going to be in Aruba.” I have always just tried to mind my own business, pray for them, be kind, and look for opportunities to be a good neighbor. I do not hate them–I pray for them and hope they come to know truth of God’s Word and salvation of their souls through faith in Christ. I also don’t think they need Him more than my other neighbor, Peter, who is a single, heterosexual male, or any more than I do.

Even if it’s true that they are “born that way,” that doesn’t make homosexuality any less sinful. According to the Bible, we are all born with a serious problem that God hates: original sin. If that were not the case, there would be no need for Christ to die undeservedly on the cross for the sins of the world.

I do not hate homosexuals. Nor do I hate homosexuals who seek to redefine marriage. God knows my heart. I’m simply trying to do my best, by the grace of God, to live by the tenets of my religion, as set for in the sacred text of my religion: the Holy Bible. It says in I Corinthians 6:9: “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”

If I said homosexuality is just fine, just to bow to social pressure, you would be justified to call me a hypocrite, because I would not be at all consistent with the teachings of my Scriptures, the Bible. Jesus never changed God’s Law. He upheld, affirmed and strengthened it. He would indeed be loving. And the most loving thing one can do for someone in error is to gently tell him the truth. When Jesus was with sinners, he ate with them and associated with them, but he also told them “Go and sin no more.” (John 5:14, John 8:11)

Upon seeing the wedding ring on the finger of someone you just met, you would have to ask the person: “Are you married to a man or a woman?”
You would have to ask them that? Really? Because when I see a wedding ring on a stranger’s finger, I’m not driven to start asking them personal questions about their spouse, whether the person they’re married to is short or tall, thick or thin. I don’t think the legalization of interracial marriage left people forced to ask “are you married to a black person or a white one?”

“Because, after all, don’t homosexual men say they’re a woman in a man’s body (and vice versa)?”
I think you’re thinking of transexuals, rather than homosexuals. Most homosexuals have no desire to be the other sex.

“Jesus taught us to teach all peoples to obey all of His commandments.”
To teach. That’s quite different from using force, don’t you think?

“How can we let go of God-ordained marriage without a fight to the death????”
Who exactly do you plan on killing here, and in what way do you feel the killing justified? Really, I think you’d better step back and rethink what you’re planning here.

Our sex determines the terms of our existence. At a church picnic on Saturday, I went without my husband and daughter. I was asked: “Where’s your husband?” This came from someone who knows my husband, but it didn’t have to. It may very well have been asked by one of the many people there with whom I had yet to become acquainted. Over time, with legal homosexual “marriage,” the new “morality” would begin to take hold, and people would begin to be told they’re bigoted or narrow-minded if they automatically assume a person with a wedding ring on is married to the opposite sex. This sort of thing has already made its way into our society even at the most conservative levels.

For example, Mormon missionaries (of all people!) asked my husband–right in front of me and my daughter–” . . . your wife . . .–is she your wife?” They didn’t want to look dumb just in case we happened to be one of those “co-habiting” couples who decided to raise a child together, Brangelina-style.

Another example: the public school system, where kids are being taught everyday to accept homosexuality as equivalent to homosexual “marriage,” no doubt more so now in CA now that a few judges decided that was a new “right,” by fiat, and gays are now “marrying.” So with sex ed, and in Health class, schools are basically feeling like they shouldn’t automatically *assume* a youngster was born heterosexual, so they are beginning to teach homosexual activity right alongside heterosexual activity. This is the logical outgrowth of the political correctness of “homosexual rights.”

No one wants to look like an oaf in case they might be talking to an over-sensitive person in an “alternative lifestyle,” who will pounce on them for “assuming” he’s married to a woman.

Don’t you see how our entire language gets changed around because of political correctness? No longer stewardess, but “flight attendant.” No longer mailman, but “mail courier.” No longer fireman, but “firefighter.” People are so pliable when it comes to the ever-changing rules of political correctness. They will conform their social skills to the new homosexual political privileges sooner or later, should Prop 8 fail.

“For example, Mormon missionaries (of all people!) asked my husband–right in front of me and my daughter–” . . . your wife . . .–is she your wife?” They didn’t want to look dumb just in case we happened to be one of those “co-habiting” couples who decided to raise a child together, Brangelina-style.”

Or you could’ve been a visiting aunt, a friend, whatever. If someone sees me in the company of a woman, it’s often not my wife. And I don’t think the law should be arranged to prevent people from saying something stupid (I’m not sure what law would keep people from assuming my daughter is my granddaughter!)

It’s hard to see what any of those word changes have cost us, or even how well they’ve taken (“mailman” appears on the Internet more than 100 times as often as “mail courier”.)

Really, your campaign to make sure that everyone is the same so that you can have an easy time making assumptions about them seems rather petty. And fighting “to the death” so that you can continue making such assumptions is deeply misguided.

When I greeted these missionaries at the door, I immediately asked them to be quiet because my 2yo daughter was napping. When she came out from her room and I began talking to her, I’m pretty sure I referred to my husband as “Daddy.” Really, the point is not that I want a law to stop people from saying something stupid. Obviously, that missionary’s question was a stupid one. The point is that the guy was doing this because on some level he knew that what used to be taken for granted (the idea that a couple living together with a child is actually married to one another) is no longer safe to take for granted.

What an absurd idea that I think laws are for preventing stupid comments. You’re either missing or avoiding my point. I was simply illustrating how silly things will get in our social interactions. The main thing I’m getting at is that once homosexual marriage is legalized for good (and I hope not), everyone else will be expected to behave as though it’s morally acceptable and on par with marriage as God created it–even though it goes squarely against our religious beliefs. People like my family, in order to stay true to our faith, will resist this and face ridicule more than we already do. We’re already called “homophobic” just for following our religion and stating that homosexuality is a sin. Now with homosexuality enshrined as “marriage,” it will have such huge legal backing that calling it a sin could result it very serious legal repercussions.

By the way–“fight to the death” is a figure of speech. Goodness–did you actually think I want somebody dead? All I want to fight to the death is the powerful momentum of homosexual ideology that is trying to convince people of the rightness of their cause, and I want to fight to the death the apathy of voters who don’t really care about the impact homosexual “marriage” will have on children.

Congrats on your views!!! I too, am amazed at the failure to acknowledge the future consequences of same sex marriages. I am reminded of the biblical warning given to us…..”What is wrong, will be right. What is right, will be wrong”.

I will continue to voice what I believe is right – what God has revealed to us as being right. And that is that marriage is between a man and a woman. I will continue to love all human beings as my brothers and sisters, but I won’t go against the teachings of my God.

It doesn’t shock me however, that all this is taking place. It really is a narrow road to heaven. This climate only affirms that things are going to get worse. Gird your loins Christians! It’s going to be a rough ride.