so, i'm pretty sure i've brought this up before, but i never got an answer and i can't find anything helpful on the entire internets so here goes once again:

i have asthma. i also love marijuana. compared to a lot of other heavy smokers i know, i'm probably considered a lightweight in both volume per session and volume per day. i used to smoke pretty much every day over the course of senior year back in high school, but after i started developing asthma i sorta put the brakes to that lifestyle and quit for a while. when i did start again, i bought a VaporGenie because i'd heard vaporizing is like this magical way of ingesting weed that has no adverse effects whatsoever. so, after about another year or so of that, i had to quit again because of asthma/acid reflux issues i was getting...and then after several months of not smoking i picked it back up again, this time using a combo VaporGenie with bong to try and catch some of the debris that i was inhaling constantly. eventually my symptoms peaked last summer and i quit altogether for 6 months, then weed became legal here in CO so i started back up once more.

this most recent time i spared no expenses and bought a top-of-the-line vaporizer (the Ploom Pax), and usually i go through at most one "bowl" per day that i sorta nurse whenever i get a few mins to myself. however, even now with all the precautions i've taken, my symptoms continue to get worse. those 6 months i quit feel like nothing because i never got better, and i just feel like my lung function is decreasing day-by-day.

this sucks because i have sort of an addictive personality, so i would prefer to get high every day over not getting high because i lead an incredibly stressful life...and now it's becoming very clear to me that i just can't because life is shit, no matter how much i want to. the issue isn't combustion of a plant going into my lungs or anything like that, it's literally having my cilia filled with debris particles that are stuck in there pretty fucking good....and i mean PRETTY FUCKING GOOD, i have a constant, daily, chronic cough where i'm literally trying to eject this shit out of me and clear my breathing passages to no avail. i have an albuterol inhaler and a one-time prescription for like Advair or something that i use, but they don't seem to alleviate the issues. they help a little bit, but not really...

anyway, so now that all that exposition is out of the way, lemme get to what i wanted to say. if you google up "asthma, marijuana, vaporizer" or whatever, you will come across hundreds of articles and forums where people just dismissively tell you that vaporizers are the greatest thing since Jesus and there's no way in Hell they could be bad for you in any way...but nothing about anyone who's used a vaporizer (like i have) and still experienced the same goddamn symptoms i was told using the fucking thing would alleviate. doctors and patients alike seem to all be in agreement that weed vapor is the cat's pajamas, and that therefore my issues are irrelevant and non-existent. i've been to LUNG SPECIALISTS that have ran tests on me just brush it off and say "oh, well there's no data demonstrating that marijuana has any harm on the lungs whatsoever, especially if you vaporize..." and then still sit and wonder why the fuck i have breathing issues.

i had an asthma/anxiety attack last night after taking ONE hit from my vaporizer that i guess was too large, and now i've pretty much quarantined all my weed stuff indefinitely once again...so what i wanted to know is, have any of you guys experienced THIS much shit from long-term smoking/vaporizing/etc.? i don't understand how Madlib can just inhale 3-4 blunts on stage and not only function, but also not have any health issues whatsoever...yet when i take one hit from a portable vape the size of an iPod, my fucking lungs seize up to the point where i feel like i might be dying. and even when i'm not smoking it's like i have mesothelioma or some shit because whatever is in my lungs currently is NOT going away any time soon, and any more hits i take just add to the cakey layers of debris in there. are there alternatives, like tinctures or edibles? those don't seem to be very conducive to a normal work day, i wish i could just smoke all day but i'm 100% positive that if i even tried that i'd end up in the ER. any advice?

(sorry for the manifesto, but this is shit that i have to deal with on a constant, daily basis...in fact, i probably coughed at least 10 times just writing this shit out)

well edibles, yeah, but not so much for the tinctures lol...since they're such a niche thing, i've never even seen one personally. and for edibles i'm willing to go that route-- but it's kinda hard to judge when it would kick in and how intense the effects would be when i'm typically used to, you know, sneaking a quick toke before class or the bus or something. all i know is that i have to give up anything lung-related...or at least anything lung-related on a daily basis.

Tintures are dope! my boy makes them! They're the same effects as an edible but kick in after only about 10 minutes for me. Perfect for any time of day and on the go. I love going on hikes though the great northwest mountains and valleys with a bottle of tincture in my pocket. Fond memories, or lack thereof I suppose.

I use to work at a medical dispensary and the tinctures were absolute shit. But I'm the type of cat who LOVES blowing massive amounts of actual smoke. Never been a fan of vaporizers or volcanoes. I'm not really even an advocate of edibles. As Jiggaman said, 'I got no patience/and I hate waiting'

I use to work at a medical dispensary and the tinctures were absolute shit. But I'm the type of cat who LOVES blowing massive amounts of actual smoke. Never been a fan of vaporizers or volcanoes. I'm not really even an advocate of edibles. As Jiggaman said, 'I got no patience/and I hate waiting'

Well bongs don't help anyone, stupid fucking invention, not everyone is built to take weed, I know the brain is built to take it, and that is provable. I worked with a kid with Cystic Fibrosis, the one thing which he would of done him some good to relax his joints from was weed, but I couldn't suggest it as I was meant to care for his needs ( even though I am if I did suggest it), and inhaling anything literally nearly killed him, and I do mean anything like walking to fast he would go blue and need to stop. Change your habits and get some breathing exercises going, might be a good idea to start playing the trumpet. There are other ways to get stoned you don't have to inhale. Personally I will not touch weed till after 7,00 in the evening, taken me years to get this disciplined with it, no more wake and bake in the morning, it's no different to having a beer in the morning, fuck sneaky tokes before everything you do like rituals, One when you wake, one after breakfast, one on the way to the bus stop one when you get off etc, you got to look at whats good what works and what isn't good and don't do it. And fuck being hardcore or comparing yourself to what Madlib's ingestion of weed is, the weed is not here for that, you dis respect it's use of course it will slap you in the face, you go through your day deal with the stress the set backs the crisis and tears, then have a couple of tokes and reflect on the day, or in your case hash cakes or tea I think

^ yeah, i think in either case it would be a good idea for me to get back into shape...and that may very well be the axiom of all my health issues. but both Grifty and ODK laid down some pretty solid advice-- i've been trying to reason out some sort of new system where i only partake either 1) once in the morning; 2) once in the evening; or if it gets really bad, then 3) once every few days/once a week. hopefully this shit'll go away eventually though, cause i sure do like my weed...haha. but i also like living and not succumbing to various respiratory diseases before i turn 22.

Luckily I don't. I do try to only smoke with either a bubbler or a bong though. Pipes, joints, and blunts are too harsh for me. I've also been using hemp wick to light all my bowls for nearly four years now.

but i also like living and not succumbing to various respiratory diseases before i turn 22.

Frank. I would agree with Sunny that you should go down the edibles route. I've been smoking weed on a daily basis for about 8 years, and also cigs for about half that time. I don't have near the problems you describe, but the cigarette element and the stupid internet have turned me into a bit of a hypochondriac, so I'm often getting paranoid and checking up on shit like "does weed contribute to emphysema" etc... I've got an extremely addictive personality (the knowledge of which has thankfully kept me away from hard drugs for the most part) and I too LOVE the sensation of smoking anything (it's why I started with the cigs) so I feel you on the whole not wanting to quit entirely thing.

HOWEVER, what you're describing ain't great. If you've got a bad case of asthma, not to mention it seems to get worse with every puff you take, you should definitely consider putting down the pipe in favor of the brownie. True, you'll have to experiment a lot before you know just what you're getting into with each individual edible, how much is right for what scenario, etc., but in the end it will be worth it man. I don't know shit about tinctures really, but you live in CO! you've got to take advantage of the fact that you can go into a shop and choose from a vast edible array. I'll admit, from my experience a brownie probably isn't going to encourage you to exercise (I tend to get more laid out by edibles personally), but you should try the route of 3 or 4 days of light cardio a week (20-30 min to start, then work your way up to where you feel comfortable), with edibles in the evenings. I'll bet you you'll start to feel better. Every once in a while take a vape puff just to check on the respiratory situation. disclaimer: I am not a doctor.

Also, just as a side note, a chunk of respiratory symptoms can sometimes be anxiety-triggered as I'm sure you know, and the cycle of "smoking->coughing->stress->smoking..." can put your head in a bad space. If your doctor tells you you have nothing to worry about, then you should try to give yourself a break (while doing what you can to comfort yourself: edibles, and the knowledge that you are improving your body through regular light exercise)

I use to work at a medical dispensary and the tinctures were absolute shit.

I used to think that too cause every single tincture I've tried in the past (about 6 different kinds) hardly did anything. Even at 3 dropperfuls! BUT I just made my own with top quality Indica buds, everclear, and a touch of strong ionized alkaline water. Let it sit for a week, took ONE dropperful yesterday and within 10 minutes that shit kinda kicked my ass for like 3-4 hours!! In fact I didn't even swallow it... just swished it around for about 20 seconds and spit it out (I was still at work and didn't want to get too ripped, thank god it was the end of the day and I own my own business ha!). I'm a true believer now.

I used to think that too cause every single tincture I've tried in the past (about 6 different kinds) hardly did anything. Even at 3 dropperfuls! BUT I just made my own with top quality Indica buds, everclear, and a touch of strong ionized alkaline water. Let it sit for a week, took ONE dropperful yesterday and within 10 minutes that shit kinda kicked my ass for like 3-4 hours!! In fact I didn't even swallow it... just swished it around for about 20 seconds and spit it out (I was still at work and didn't want to get too ripped, thank god it was the end of the day and I own my own business ha!). I'm a true believer now.

I used to think that too cause every single tincture I've tried in the past (about 6 different kinds) hardly did anything. Even at 3 dropperfuls! BUT I just made my own with top quality Indica buds, everclear, and a touch of strong ionized alkaline water. Let it sit for a week, took ONE dropperful yesterday and within 10 minutes that shit kinda kicked my ass for like 3-4 hours!! In fact I didn't even swallow it... just swished it around for about 20 seconds and spit it out (I was still at work and didn't want to get too ripped, thank god it was the end of the day and I own my own business ha!). I'm a true believer now.

My dude makes stuff with a similar mixture but sometimes does keef ones too, he also lets some age and frement. Had some year old ish a few weeks back, and as a serious smoker, I was blitzed for almost 24 hours on this tincture. I go all insmoniac when I smoke too so a couple dropperfuls and I can make beats all night without having to reload.

Weed isn't what it used to be.... y'all got that GMO Weed now lol.... I stopped smoking weed back in november or so... I don't plan on going back to smoking.... I realize how much more time i've got on my hands now...it's ridiculous.

Weed isn't what it used to be.... y'all got that GMO Weed now lol.... I stopped smoking weed back in november or so... I don't plan on going back to smoking.... I realize how much more time i've got on my hands now...it's ridiculous.

Weed is so god damn potent today too. And it seems to get more and more potent each year. I remember even just a few years ago I wouldn't get as high as I do now. Maybe it is just me and my tolerance wavering, but damn. I actually quit recently as well. Just graduated from college and about to start the job hunt, so I do not want to risk anything. Plus, weed just gets me too anxious these days.

I don't feel right without a drop of thc. I am at the pint tho where I would love a pill, with a prescribed dose. That would make my day. Instead of taking a puff, just swallow a pill. Anyhow, weed is great, y'all nuts for quitting.