He was 5 of 14 for 51 yards with no TDs and 1 pick. That's almost as bad as Maddox' game against the Texans back in '03 or whenever the hell it was. That was a horrific loss though. Walter played like garbage, but escaped with a win.

I thought the only loss was against Troy Smith (Ravens) in the last game of '07 when a lot of starters were rested.

You are correct about the loss to Troy Smith, sir. Guess that makes it two losses.

Looks like USA Today is slightly off. Somebody e-mail those clowns and tell 'em to get their facts straight!

So, did they just miss that game started by Smith or did they inadvertently give them a win when it shoulda been a loss?

Either way, 11-2 or 12-2, I like those odds. That's a trend I'll follow. I will say though, Dalton might be one of the best, if not the best, rookie QB they've faced in that timeframe. I've watched chunks of several of their games (*shudder*) and have to admit to being impressed with his performance. He's flying under the radar a bit because Newton is making such a big splash in Carolina. Palmer refusing to play when he was there might end up being the best thing to happen to that team in awhile; might've even saved Lewis' job too.

"Dreith said I hit Sipe too hard. I hit him as hard as I could. Brian has a chance to go out of bounds and he decides not to. He knows I'm going to hit him. And I do. History."- - - Jack Lambert, after referee Ben Dreith ejected him from a game for knocking out Browns QB Brian Sipe.