halabar wrote:I'm really looking forward to the AH chaos that will be caused by the virtual realms. It will be really interesting to watch.

Hehehehehehehehehehehe

I'm really looking forward to this as well. The AH on my main realm isn't that active atm, although I did manage to run into a wannabe goblin last week. It was fun having a spot of AH pvp, but the poor guy had nowhere near the resources to take me on so I let him have the Engineering market and kinda took him under my wing a bit.

This is the first major patch I've actually put real effort into preparing for, and I'm counting on making a couple million when the patch drops. Well that, or be stuck with a ton of useless crud going into SHINYNEWXPACWOO

As somone playing on a completely dead low pop realm I'm really looking forward to virtual realms. It's impossible to sell anything at the moment since there aren't enough people to buy anything. And good luck leveling a profession without farming all the materials yourself.

The other day I accidentally put up a crafted BoE epic for 10g, and no one had bought it when I noticed it myself several hours later. That's how dead our AH is.

Imperial Silk will be crap after 5.4, except for making bags, for two reasons.

#1 There's a new cloth that takes 10 bolts of Windwool, and it's used to make 2 BOP items, legs and belt. Yep, that's right, currently on the ptr the new crafted gear will be BOP. So no mass production of gear to sell at the high level, and a limited demand for cloth. The only bonus right now is that it doesn't require a raid drop or enchanting drop, so that might be why it's BOP.

#2 Based on a bit of testing on the PTR, all your alts will be swimming in 496 gear in a few weeks. If the drop rate on the PTR is anything close to live, I picked up ~15 of the items, either from drops or chests in about 2 hours. So any crafting of 496 or below gear will be a joke, including crafting the old PVP sets. Looks like Blizz really wants people playing their alts.

The same goes for LW and BS for the crafted gear. There's a likely impact on Enchanting as well, as I can see a flood of Sha Crystals coming.

So, question is, do I make bags now, or do I bother making BOP legs and waist for a toon that's not my main?

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twinkfist wrote:i feel bad for the Mogu...having to deal with alcoholic bears.

halabar wrote:So, after playing around on the PTR, I discovered a few things....

Is there anything useful for Scribes to make? Right now I have a gigantic pile of the daily scrolls, and the only thing to use them on are the 476 fans...

Nothing new that involves the scrolls that I'm aware of. There are new glyphs which will be discovered on the new island. For those daily scrolls.. eh.. make staffs to sell? I stopped making those a long time ago.

Amirya wrote:... because everyone needs a Catagonskin rug.

twinkfist wrote:i feel bad for the Mogu...having to deal with alcoholic bears.

halabar wrote:So, after playing around on the PTR, I discovered a few things....

Is there anything useful for Scribes to make? Right now I have a gigantic pile of the daily scrolls, and the only thing to use them on are the 476 fans...

Depending on your herb/relic market, relics might still be able to net a decent bit.

I buy everything but fools cap 1.25g/ea or less, and fools cap 2.5g and lower.

Been selling trinkets at:Tank 4-6kCaster 6-8kHealer 6-8kMelee 9.5k+

Works out that each card ends up costing me about 200-300g to make, with 8 needed makes it 1.6-2.4k per deck. Allows even some room to buy single cards to complete decks, depending on the prices of them. (ofc this is including trading in ink of dreams for starlights)

I wish they'd at least be BoA. I have LW on my paladin... not going to be super helpful to have some BoP leather/mail items.

Yeah, that kinda sucks for people who have professions that don't match their armor type. Leg enchants will still sell, and you might want to stockpile some of those for all the folks that will be getting these nice shiny 496's on all their alts.

Looking at it on my tailor, it will take 490 bolts of Windwool to make the belt and legs, which is equivalent to 7 satchels, or about 17.5k at current prices on my AH. So, 17.5k for two crafted items isn't bad. However, it does lock you in on your tier set, and you might get hosed if tier legs drop. I'm thinking I may just craft the belt and keep selling satchels.

BoPs are nice when they are a bit better, or are an awesome model (thinking back to the crafted BoP shoulders from BT), but not so great when they very well might get replaced by a raid drop, and are not heavily styled slots.

Trying to sell a few satchels now. Success of that may determine what I do with my piles of cloth.

Amirya wrote:... because everyone needs a Catagonskin rug.

twinkfist wrote:i feel bad for the Mogu...having to deal with alcoholic bears.

halabar wrote:So, after playing around on the PTR, I discovered a few things....

Is there anything useful for Scribes to make? Right now I have a gigantic pile of the daily scrolls, and the only thing to use them on are the 476 fans...

Depending on your herb/relic market, relics might still be able to net a decent bit.

I buy everything but fools cap 1.25g/ea or less, and fools cap 2.5g and lower.

Been selling trinkets at:Tank 4-6kCaster 6-8kHealer 6-8kMelee 9.5k+

Works out that each card ends up costing me about 200-300g to make, with 8 needed makes it 1.6-2.4k per deck. Allows even some room to buy single cards to complete decks, depending on the prices of them. (ofc this is including trading in ink of dreams for starlights)

Hmm.. must check these prices on my realm.

Amirya wrote:... because everyone needs a Catagonskin rug.

twinkfist wrote:i feel bad for the Mogu...having to deal with alcoholic bears.

Only caution is expect to need a decent bit of wisdoms to finish decks without needing to buy singles (but keep an eye on singles that you need, I recent picked some up for some decks for below what the mats cost to make a card is - 150-250g for some cards).

I currently use 2x of my own scribes daily, and have a friend letting me use 2x of his as well. Also have some friends with unused scrolls that let me use their CDs when they remember to actually do them. Also found offering 30-50g per wisdom along with 3 ink of dreams per nets some people willing to do business, although I find obtaining enough inks with 2/4/6 available wisdoms/day hard enough to justify needing even MORE while buying from randoms.

I'm really surprised those trinkets still sell. I guess it does make sense though since I read for some classes in PvP those trinkets are better than Tyrannical trinkets which is kinda pathetic when you think about it :<

Teranoid wrote:I'm really surprised those trinkets still sell. I guess it does make sense though since I read for some classes in PvP those trinkets are better than Tyrannical trinkets which is kinda pathetic when you think about it :<

It's not that surprising when you consider all the gear normalization that happens in PVP now, and all the nerfs/changes to PVP power and resilience. There are probably some other nice hidden OP things that Blizz unintentionally created along the way..

Amirya wrote:... because everyone needs a Catagonskin rug.

twinkfist wrote:i feel bad for the Mogu...having to deal with alcoholic bears.

Keep in mind that other than spending VP/getting lucky with LFR, that the trinkets are still one of the better ways to boost people's iLvl of new alts in terms of cost & output wise, short of spending 20k+ on a 522 BoE.

Not to mention most will have made 5k+ while questing from 85-90, so it basically pays for the trinket itself.

Xfighter wrote:Keep in mind that other than spending VP/getting lucky with LFR, that the trinkets are still one of the better ways to boost people's iLvl of new alts in terms of cost & output wise, short of spending 20k+ on a 522 BoE.

Not to mention most will have made 5k+ while questing from 85-90, so it basically pays for the trinket itself.

Xfighter wrote:Keep in mind that other than spending VP/getting lucky with LFR, that the trinkets are still one of the better ways to boost people's iLvl of new alts in terms of cost & output wise, short of spending 20k+ on a 522 BoE.

Not to mention most will have made 5k+ while questing from 85-90, so it basically pays for the trinket itself.

So... threadsurection here, I've been looking about and trying to find the best way to process mats. I've taken it upon myself to level one of each class to 90, and since each alt has at least 1 gathering prof, I'm going to be rolling in mats.

You guys got any tips on the best way to process these, whether just selling them as-is, the old ore shuffle, or something else? I have every prof at least to zen if not 600, and two farms completely unlocked with two more I could unlock right now. Of course, some of the profs in the 500-525 range are not going to have all the recipes.

What should I prioritize as far as getting more recipes? I'm pretty good on BS (balanced trillium doesn't teach me anything anymore), LW, getting there on JC, ench is 600 but not that developed, but the rest of the production profs need to be leveled and don't have access to SOSS trainers yet.

Brute wrote:So... threadsurection here, I've been looking about and trying to find the best way to process mats. I've taken it upon myself to level one of each class to 90, and since each alt has at least 1 gathering prof, I'm going to be rolling in mats.

You guys got any tips on the best way to process these, whether just selling them as-is, the old ore shuffle, or something else? I have every prof at least to zen if not 600, and two farms completely unlocked with two more I could unlock right now. Of course, some of the profs in the 500-525 range are not going to have all the recipes.

What should I prioritize as far as getting more recipes? I'm pretty good on BS (balanced trillium doesn't teach me anything anymore), LW, getting there on JC, ench is 600 but not that developed, but the rest of the production profs need to be leveled and don't have access to SOSS trainers yet.

I have not played much in the last 6 mo, but I was still selling bars and stacks of ore. Belts were fine, but I logged in last night and no one on my friends list or in my guild have been on in weeks!

Seems that they have messed up on no new content till Xpac. While I do have the next Xpac already, many I know will not be coming back as they are into other games now at this point. As for me, Neverwinter is my new game. So I've been plying my Goblin skills in there! Though you can use real money to convert to game coin, I still find it fun to flip the rare stuff!