tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445844569294316288.post1822618462936160031..comments2016-12-05T13:04:31.334-08:00Comments on TOM CLARK: George Herbert: The Pulley (Pandora's Box)Zephirinenoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445844569294316288.post-84303158360042963912012-12-27T08:11:54.905-08:002012-12-27T08:11:54.905-08:00Yes Wooden Boy, something in that &quot;shadowed g...Yes Wooden Boy, something in that &quot;shadowed green&quot; that matters to me too. And yes, Tom&#39;s got it, having been a long-time (if now long ago) resident of this oft (though not today) shadowed landscape.STEPHEN RATCLIFFEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12339481653546188412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445844569294316288.post-28988191439760811862012-12-27T06:14:59.579-08:002012-12-27T06:14:59.579-08:00Quite a pair, Marilyn and Herbert. She was a bless...Quite a pair, Marilyn and Herbert. She was a blessing too. She had talent and beauty, and she had soul, a rare quality anytime, anywhere.Hazenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13417573435195561519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445844569294316288.post-56642976199595204522012-12-26T15:28:15.255-08:002012-12-26T15:28:15.255-08:00The grand beauty of it. I want to be back in Wales...The grand beauty of it. I want to be back in Wales. We should get back to Herbert&#39;s beauty, I guess.Wooden Boyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01100756913131511440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445844569294316288.post-49084099903692228462012-12-26T15:23:03.660-08:002012-12-26T15:23:03.660-08:00Of course Steve may wish to speak for himself on t...Of course Steve may wish to speak for himself on this point, but I take that passage to refer to one of the large fleeting rain clouds streaming in off the ocean, moving over and thus enshadowing the trees that deck the upper reaches of Mount Tamalpais, visible from his daily location.<br /><br />(Steve the constant master of local landscape knowledge, in his particular precinct as ever.)TChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05915822857461178942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445844569294316288.post-31336189284409738402012-12-26T12:18:00.843-08:002012-12-26T12:18:00.843-08:00There&#39;s something in Stephen&#39;s shadowed gr...There&#39;s something in Stephen&#39;s shadowed green that matters for me here. Can&#39;t quite unpick it. <br /><br />Wooden Boyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01100756913131511440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445844569294316288.post-75311145273066612002012-12-26T10:03:07.875-08:002012-12-26T10:03:07.875-08:00Lana may have avoided collapse had she resorted to...Lana may have avoided collapse had she resorted to the chair lift.<br /><br />(Louise probably would have got along quite well without either, brave girl that she was.) <br /><br />This is I believe the only extant photo of the star of the diamond and the star of the screen together.<br /><br />However, as vs. AW (that mechanical iconographer of celebrity), John Vachon, being John Vachon, has skipped over (as if unawares) the &quot;star&quot; aspect of Marilyn&#39;s persona, preferring to show her more &quot;common&quot; -- vulnerable, approachable -- side. <br /><br />Another photo in the Look portfolio (only three of some 200 Vachon shots from the &quot;escape&quot; location in Canada ever made it into the magazine) shows her, again with ankle wrap and crutches, at the hotel swimming pool, larking about with some kids. <br /><br />Seeking and finding the common, Vachon always brings things down from the (false) glamour plane to the (real) human plane. <br /><br />WB, Thanks very much for seeing the crucial doubleness in &quot;rest&quot;.<br /><br />The post was designed to fit the poem, in the &quot;metaphysical&quot; mode, by playing a conceit upon a conceit wrapped within a conceit.<br /><br />The Greek pithos represents that legendary &quot;glasse&quot; or &quot;box&quot; of (dubious) blessings, in the original myth.<br /><br />When Herbert has &quot;the worlds riches/Contract into a span&quot;, he means into the width of the open hand from thumb-tip to tip of little finger.<br /><br />A useful bit on the poem:<br /><br />&quot;Classical myth lies behind this poem in the story of Pandora&#39;s box, from which all grief escaped to trouble mankind, according to Hesiod, or all goods, in the minority view, leaving only hope in the box as a gift. Here all virtues and goods are distributed, sufficient to make man independent of God, with the exception of rest, which man can find only with God. The poet puns on &#39;rest&#39; as &#39;peace of mind&#39; and &#39;rest&#39; as &#39;remainder&#39;.&quot;<br /><br />-- John TobinTChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05915822857461178942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445844569294316288.post-53440779100659795992012-12-26T08:27:18.937-08:002012-12-26T08:27:18.937-08:00Tom,
Yes, not only Marilyn on crutches and Louse ...Tom,<br /><br />Yes, not only Marilyn on crutches and Louse in ecstacy but Marilyn on chairlift, Marilyn with Joe, urn shaped like Marilyn. <br /><br />&quot;Having a glasse of blessings standing by&quot;<br /><br />Coincidentally (?) I was looking at Warhol&#39;s Marilyn Diptych last night, begun weeks after her suicide in August 1962, just 9 short years after John Vachon took these pictures.<br /><br /><br />12.26<br /><br />grey of rain cloud above shadowed green<br />ridge, drops falling on red brick plane<br />in foreground, sound of wave in channel<br /><br /> view of objects in painting,<br /> presence of “objects”<br /><br /> external event, evidence of<br /> it, which includes it<br /><br />grey rain cloud against shadowed ridge,<br />circular green pine on tip of sandspit<br />STEPHEN RATCLIFFEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12339481653546188412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445844569294316288.post-22756586373800259232012-12-26T07:26:01.749-08:002012-12-26T07:26:01.749-08:00Yet let him keep the rest,
But keep them with rep...Yet let him keep the rest, <br />But keep them with repining restlessnesse<br /><br />There’s the delight in the play of language; foolish way to a fierce truth.<br /><br />I love the pictures of Marilyn in crutches (always in crutches) and Louise Brooks in ecstasy. <br /><br />That&#39;s hope for you.<br />Wooden Boyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01100756913131511440noreply@blogger.com