Monday, May 16, 2016

You are all sex criminals

The ALI will vote at its convention this coming week on whether to adopt a model penal code that would make “affirmative consent” when it come to sexual relations its official policy. Affirmative consent — or “yes means yes” — policies have already been adopted by many colleges and universities, and have become law in California and New York. A letter signed by some 120 ALI members says the group should vote down the changes as a vast expansion of the definition of sexual assault in the legal system.

“The prosecutor need only say, ‘Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury, under the State’s definition, it does not matter whether the complainant actually was willing,” the ALI members wrote. “It is undisputed that the sex act occurred and there is no evidence in the record that the complainant communicated willingness. There is no consent if the complainant has not communicated willingness. You must convict if you find that the defendant recklessly disregarded that absence of consent.”

30 comments:

Women will just claim they said yes under duress or that alcohol, or some other substance, lowered their inhibitions and will to give a clear yes. I predict their will soon be categories of "Yes". However, I did have a soldier once get off of a rape charge because he kept his Burger King receipt, thus proving he was elsewhere when the alleged victim said the rape took place.

Next question - what is the statute of limitations on "affirmative consent"?

Won't it be fun when some psycho bitch ex-GF hits you with a rape charge from five or ten years ago? Now, where did I leave her signed affidavits...

To make it extra fun, they will allow prosecution of the crime for events that happened before the new doctrine was put into force. By the way, Mr. Trump, did you get affirmative consent for those encounters in the 1980s before affirmative consent was the rule?

"To make it extra fun, they will allow prosecution of the crime for events that happened before the new doctrine was put into force. By the way, Mr. Trump, did you get affirmative consent for those encounters in the 1980s before affirmative consent was the rule?"

This is the next step; Cosby was the test-case, because if they could successfully terrorize/prosecute an aged, rich, black male celebrity, well then every male on planet is fair game. Go back enough decades, all guys are criminals. Which of course was always the goal, and the only goal.

You submit to this tyranny then hey, you deserve what you're gonna get. Western men are still hoping they'll just come for The Other Guy. :O) Cooperate, stay low-profile, get a pass when your name comes up before the Kommittee. Heh.

Still waiting to hear how one "proves" consent to a verbal contract, and even if it's documented, written, audio or video, like frenchy said above, there's always the coercion loophole.

Regardless of proof, since "under the State’s definition, it does not matter whether the complainant actually was willing", if you have sex and some prosecutor wants you balls nailed to the wall, you're probably sunk.

"Affirmative consent has never been tested. The colleges and universities say a good game about affirmative consent, but it convicts a student regardless of evidence of affirmative consent."

Oh, its been teted alright, several dozen times! You just don't hear about it since all the federal actions by male students end up getting settled, with non-disclosure agreements between the men and the universities settling their claims.