Crystal Palace have let their manager, (Holloway} go after 9 premiership games with no wins in last 7 games. Lessons to be learned for promoted managers from the championship here. If you don't get automatic promotion you are 3 to 4 weeks behind everyone else in the transfer market so make sure yo get that automatic place

Man city have a toughie today alright, away to Chelski. Cardiff defended to the limit yesterday and deservedly got a point but still need another 44 Chris. Sorry you lost yesterday Pam both your coupon and the game but early doors yet. Spurs should win today but not holding my breath. Their 2-0 win away from home in the Euro cup was far from domineering but sitting pretty with 3 wins out of 3

Now Chris, can you imagine the euphoria you would experience of going to the Vetch later in the season and actually in the process of winning there and being the architects of their relegation, just a thought