"Our fans are pretty good. They don't give away too much. Sometimes people love dropping spoilers, but our fans are good. They tend to do it in such a way that doesn't ruin it for fans who don't want to know."--Phil Keoghan

I noticed in the Azerbaijan leg Phil did NOT say 'this is the second of two fast forwards on the race' (I didn't want to bring it up back then because I thought it would be irrelevant)

which means there is definitely possibility for a third one, but to have it this late in the game?

what's everyone else's thoughts??

In the olden days they did really late fast forwards, even several times in the final four. BUT it has been many seasons since there were three AND all the racers have their hair intact in the F3 photos Maybe Vanessa shaves her head and gets eliminated in Japan

I noticed in the Azerbaijan leg Phil did NOT say 'this is the second of two fast forwards on the race' (I didn't want to bring it up back then because I thought it would be irrelevant)

which means there is definitely possibility for a third one, but to have it this late in the game?

what's everyone else's thoughts??

In the olden days they did really late fast forwards, even several times in the final four. BUT it has been many seasons since there were three AND all the racers have their hair intact in the F3 photos Maybe Vanessa shaves her head and gets eliminated in Japan

If one of the girls did shave her head, it still wouldn't have grown back completely by present timeIm not sure if you watched TARAus1, but Joey shaved her head for an FF in Leg 3 (filmed in November) and after they broadcasted the episode they were eliminated (in May), in the interview her hair still hadn't completely grown back

so if anything I would think if a team did take an FF, it would be Art and JJ or Mark and Bopperwe know Art and JJ have taken a FF, so that leaves Mark and Bopper, which could very well be likely, and would guarantee them a spot in the F4

I noticed in the Azerbaijan leg Phil did NOT say 'this is the second of two fast forwards on the race' (I didn't want to bring it up back then because I thought it would be irrelevant)

which means there is definitely possibility for a third one, but to have it this late in the game?

what's everyone else's thoughts??

In the olden days they did really late fast forwards, even several times in the final four. BUT it has been many seasons since there were three AND all the racers have their hair intact in the F3 photos Maybe Vanessa shaves her head and gets eliminated in Japan

I remember Tara and Will in TAR2 and David and Jeff in TAR4 reaching a spot into the F3 by using the FF.

If she had said "I need MY hair to be pretty", it could be some hairstyling task.

But she said "I need hair to be pretty", meaning she needs to have hair!

What if it's a mark quote?? LOL

My guess is that eddiethejet has nailed it.

Given that Mark is putting on the "dress" (don't know the correct name) and going out to dance with a number of beautifully dressed women, I can easily see Bopper telling Mark to "go out there and be pretty", and Mark replying "I need hair to be pretty".

If she had said "I need MY hair to be pretty", it could be some hairstyling task.

But she said "I need hair to be pretty", meaning she needs to have hair!

What if it's a mark quote?? LOL

My guess is that eddiethejet has nailed it.

Given that Mark is putting on the "dress" (don't know the correct name) and going out to dance with a number of beautifully dressed women, I can easily see Bopper telling Mark to "go out there and be pretty", and Mark replying "I need hair to be pretty".

This is the name for the second india episode not the first one where they dance with the Bollywood dancers

If there is a FF in the penultimate leg it sure does reinforce the idea that they are trying to make this season like the older ones. If Mopper is still around in that episode then they would certainly take the FF as they would be desperate. Also they are the most likely choice because Rachel or Vanessa are not about to shave their heads

I looked more closely at the area, and pinpointed the location of the intro cap shot as Kahana Bay, which is on the windward/eastern side of Oahu. Kualoa Ranch is on the other side of the ridge, just to the south.

Kualoa Ranch is a private 4,000 acre property, totally stunning to look at, and historically significant to the Hawaiian people, so certainly another candidate for a finale location.

If there is a FF in the penultimate leg it sure does reinforce the idea that they are trying to make this season like the older ones. If Mopper is still around in that episode then they would certainly take the FF as they would be desperate. Also they are the most likely choice because Rachel or Vanessa are not about to shave their heads

However, Vanessa and Ralph can count and realize that they had to go for it if they believed the F3 teams (which would not be know) to be stronger. I have this major problems with your logic:

1. There are 2 India legs coming up and only one can potentially be a NEL, meaning that one of Vanessa/Ralph and Mark/Bopper has to be eliminated before the penultimate leg in Japan (where the other one will be eliminated).

Because the stated location in the episode titles are the same, I am considering that leg 9 may be the last NEL, or a no-length pitstop leg; and that might be consistent with hiking up the level of difficulty for the two India legs,I'm going to stay out of the grapevine source discussion, but I will point out that frewuently, the best performing team in average placement has more often lost on the final leg than won. (Take a look at the first post in the ranking the teams thread.)Personaly, notwithstanding their good deed in an early leg for Mark and Bopper, I would not be happy with an Art-JJ win, their attitude as reflected in the editing of recent legs has off-putted me. At this point I'd be quite content with either Rachel team winning (and probably Dave-Rachel, depending on how Rachel Reilly behaves in these last four legs.)

If there is a FF in the penultimate leg it sure does reinforce the idea that they are trying to make this season like the older ones. If Mopper is still around in that episode then they would certainly take the FF as they would be desperate. Also they are the most likely choice because Rachel or Vanessa are not about to shave their heads

the blonde Rachel had as much hair in January as she did while running the race. no chance she shaved her head.

If there is a FF in the penultimate leg it sure does reinforce the idea that they are trying to make this season like the older ones. If Mopper is still around in that episode then they would certainly take the FF as they would be desperate. Also they are the most likely choice because Rachel or Vanessa are not about to shave their heads

the blonde Rachel had as much hair in January as she did while running the race. no chance she shaved her head.

If there is a FF in the penultimate leg it sure does reinforce the idea that they are trying to make this season like the older ones. If Mopper is still around in that episode then they would certainly take the FF as they would be desperate. Also they are the most likely choice because Rachel or Vanessa are not about to shave their heads

However, Vanessa and Ralph can count and realize that they had to go for it if they believed the F3 teams (which would not be know) to be stronger. I have this major problems with your logic:

1. There are 2 India legs coming up and only one can potentially be a NEL, meaning that one of Vanessa/Ralph and Mark/Bopper has to be eliminated before the penultimate leg in Japan (where the other one will be eliminated).

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make but in this scenario, Mark and Bopper have survived because of a KRL. A KRL is likely in episode 9 because both episodes are identified as taking place in Kochi and we know that the leg 10 roadblock is very near the area of leg 9.

I have never enjoyed the shave your head FF. I feel it favors men over women. Additionally, in BB12, there was a sacrifice POV competition, when one person could choose to do something with their hair (men had to choose to shave their head or women to dye their hair pink). (Brendon chose to shave his head) I think it is more fair than having women shave their hair for an advantage.

If the time stamps on the photos are correct it means the mystery team (Dave and Rachel) reached the roof first followed by Brenchel with Art and JJ in third. It also means Brenchel spent almost 50 minutes on the roof. Long prep times or rooftop challenge?

That may or may not be true. From the the photos we know the following:

1) The timestamps on photos of mystery team (Dave & Rachel?) gives us the best evidence that they were the first to start ascending the cables.

2) Mystery team had one member severely lagging the lead member on the ascent (having covered less than half the distance up the building while the lead member was almost at the top).

3) In the same set of photos, team Brenchel was seen almost at the top of the building just 16 minutes later.

4) Team Brenchel was the only team that the same photographer captured descending the building.

Based on point #2 above, plus point # 3... fact that team Brenchel both were at the top just 16 minutes after the lagging partner of mystery team still had more than half way to go, when combined with point #4, I think it's likely that team Brenchel overtook mystery team on the way up the building and was the first team to both reach the top , and therefore the first team to start descending.

The only thing that doesn't compute in this scenario is that the timestamps of team Brenchel descending are 50 minutes after they were almost at the top while ascending. Why the almost one hour delay between the near end of the ascension and the beginning of the descension? But on the other hand, why no pictures of the mystery team descending if they were the first team to do so?

I wonder if the photographer could give us more details. I noticed that on the photographer's flicker account page there is button to "send flickrmail" to him. Does anyone here who has a flickr account want to try to "flickrmail" him to see if he can provide more details of what he saw that day?

I hope that this head shaving Fast Forward turns out to be true, not necessarily because I love head-shaving FFs (I do like them ) but because having three FFs on a single race would be a dream come true!!!

If the head-shaving FF turns out to be true, then I speculate that someone (Ranessa or Brenchel) goes there and doesn't use it, like Brandon & Nicole from TAR5. Complete speculation, of course, but I just wanted to throw it out there!

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