I think we should fight against all "sin" taxes, or well taxes in general, ha!

As such I don't agree with "carbon taxes". However, that doesn't take away from evidence that we might be encountering a serious problem.

Yes, it is a might, but a might with a ton of support via environmental issues. The whole "weather is cyclical" perspective is just not enough to explain it or is the warming of the sun. Many scientist consider both of these, but we can't deny human involvement. That is simply willed ignorance.

Quoting: luridanimus

Why can't we deny it when one volcano can release as much shit into the atmosphere as we have in the last 150 years. If we have any effect at all it is less than 1%.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42132317

Lets assume your numbers are correct. We still have volcanic activity annually. So we are adding our 1% to the 150 years worth of our 1%. In a system that has overtaxed and damaged means to clean itself it will only create more pressure on the system to work beyond it's means. Moreover, the particulates in the atmosphere, as well as the "greenhouse" gases are only a part of the whole picture.

I am completely mystified at how Obama supporters continue to stand by him even though the facts are that he LIES to them continually and uses falsified information to push his agendas... Knowing full well that this will enslave generations to come. I am all for doing things more intellegently and to be less impact to the rest of the world... But, when it's forced upon us and not enforced on anyone else, I take issue. And this is really about funding the NWO which will be run through the UN just as papa Bush said it would be... This is far larger than what is being written in this story because most of us are looking too narrowly at what is being written here.

I seem to remember that when the 2009 Sustainablity Summit happened, it was Americans that were going to pay for all of the carbon taxes of the rest of the world because we were the biggest polluters for so many years.... And Obama was going to sign us onto it knowing full well that it would completely cripple America and that it was only about sucking the wealth out of this country.

To pass laws exectutively without congressional approval is treasonous and then to have it based on false data is just over the top...

"Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever." ~ George Orwell

"The exact level of tyranny that you're going to live under, is the level of tyranny you put up with." ~Thomas Jefferson

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. ~ Thomas Jefferson

"If you are for gun control, then you are not against guns, because the guns will be needed to disarm people. So it’s not that you are anti-gun. You’ll need the police’s guns to take away other people’s guns. So you’re very Pro-Gun, you just believe that only the Government (which is, of course, so reliable, honest, moral and virtuous…) should be allowed to have guns. There is no such thing as gun control. There is only centralizing gun ownership in the hands of a small, political elite and their minions."Stefan Molyneux

I am completely mystified at how Obama supporters continue to stand by him even though the facts are that he LIES to them continually and uses falsified information to push his agendas... Knowing full well that this will enslave generations to come. I am all for doing things more intellegently and to be less impact to the rest of the world... But, when it's forced upon us and not enforced on anyone else, I take issue. And this is really about funding the NWO which will be run through the UN just as papa Bush said it would be... This is far larger than what is being written in this story because most of us are looking too narrowly at what is being written here.

I seem to remember that when the 2009 Sustainablity Summit happened, it was Americans that were going to pay for all of the carbon taxes of the rest of the world because we were the biggest polluters for so many years.... And Obama was going to sign us onto it knowing full well that it would completely cripple America and that it was only about sucking the wealth out of this country.

To pass laws exectutively without congressional approval is treasonous and then to have it based on false data is just over the top...

Quoting: Question EVERYTHING

They continue to support him because they are as "amerikan" as he is and yes they hate this country too...

I am completely mystified at how Obama supporters continue to stand by him even though the facts are that he LIES to them continually and uses falsified information to push his agendas... Knowing full well that this will enslave generations to come. I am all for doing things more intellegently and to be less impact to the rest of the world... But, when it's forced upon us and not enforced on anyone else, I take issue. And this is really about funding the NWO which will be run through the UN just as papa Bush said it would be... This is far larger than what is being written in this story because most of us are looking too narrowly at what is being written here.

I seem to remember that when the 2009 Sustainablity Summit happened, it was Americans that were going to pay for all of the carbon taxes of the rest of the world because we were the biggest polluters for so many years.... And Obama was going to sign us onto it knowing full well that it would completely cripple America and that it was only about sucking the wealth out of this country.

To pass laws exectutively without congressional approval is treasonous and then to have it based on false data is just over the top...

Quoting: Question EVERYTHING

"To pass laws exectutively without congressional approval is treasonous and then to have it based on false data is just over the top..."

I am stunned by this too, but more stunned that no one is challenging it. I guess once a politician gets to Washington they become a Senator or a Congresscritter and forget they are amerikans first...

He needs to try an save the something of country before he takes on more grander things.. the record ain't been to good so far..It's nothing but slavery...masked as a 'savior.'And NO i'm not a fan of pollution...not even about that,it's only about money..more money...he said he would shut down the coal mines, increase costs to where it would be so high one could barely pay for it.

He needs to try an save the something of country before he takes on more grander things.. he record ain't been to good so far..It's nothing but slavery...masked as a 'savior.'And NO i'm not a fan of pollution...not even about that,it's only about money..more money...he said he would shut down the coal mines, increase costs to where it would be so high one could barely pay for it.

Quoting: ceawaves

The Gulf of Mexico around Texas is full of PCB's and dioxin because chemical plants and refineries said they couldn't afford the cost to properly store or dispose of the waste. When rules came online governing the storage and disposal of said waste many people said it would cost people their jobs and that it would hurt the US economy.

Some parts of the coast are so saturated with PCB's they think it will take hundreds of years for it to be gone. Dioxin is not much better.

Call your representatives. Call your senators. Tell them how pissed you are! News flash - they don't give a flying FUCK at a donut in the dark about you. They got into the game to make money and to get power. Insider trading? Hell yah! What was that pinned thread yesterday about two worthless Eurozone politicians that checked in for 300 Euros a day to do nothing!

This is our world.

The productive members of society are being shit on day after day. We have no functional government. We pander to the dregs of society who contribute nothing toward the evolution of mankind. We're infiltrated by Islamic militants who receive endless benefits at our expense! We have NO leaders that represent anything that is good and patriotic. Only psychopaths hellbent on getting the most power they possibly can while dancing on the backs of the bruised if I can steal a line from NIN.

Now what the hell do we do?

Anyone have any solutions? Riots? What will it take to make these degenerates listen to us? Is there any hope left? Will any vestige of what is left of humanity go down into the sewers?

Quoting: calx

Thank you for your passion. Im just wondering which coruption part got the Pin: The keeping us citizens from knowing about the artic methane release, or that congress is allowed to do insider trading or that Obama is starting to introduce milimeter by milimeter earths melting artic and the methane release too slow or is it that they are and have built lots of underground living for all the important people and used our money to do it...just wondering what part gets to you? Under Denver airport is the best one and it can run for years via nuclear power plant to provide electricity for there with no help and littlle maintenance so I hear. Anyways, wish I could build me an underground house for me and my family. I have a dream house I saw in Idaho I would live...completely self sufficient...the only thing it can not do is pay for itself lol.

I moved in with my elderly parents after my dad had a stroke 2 years ago. Now we are like the three muscateers. I kept buying gallons of water and can goods each time I went for groceries and if on-sale stacks of bottled water...finally Mama politely asked whats up with all the water. I finally came out and told her. I think it went well, the other day she was talking to a real estate lady. I asked why? She said , I was reading and we need a bug-out place...hehe true story! Well enough about me.

He needs to try an save the something of country before he takes on more grander things.. he record ain't been to good so far..It's nothing but slavery...masked as a 'savior.'And NO i'm not a fan of pollution...not even about that,it's only about money..more money...he said he would shut down the coal mines, increase costs to where it would be so high one could barely pay for it.

Quoting: ceawaves

The Gulf of Mexico around Texas is full of PCB's and dioxin because chemical plants and refineries said they couldn't afford the cost to properly store or dispose of the waste. When rules came online governing the storage and disposal of said waste many people said it would cost people their jobs and that it would hurt the US economy.

Some parts of the coast are so saturated with PCB's they think it will take hundreds of years for it to be gone. Dioxin is not much better.

well I beg to differ , I think it is commendable to try and reduce the toxins which are plenty , indeed. the average car on the road today emits its weight in soot, toxins ect. we need the electric car, but it didn't make it , for some reason, hmmmmm I wonder why???

well I beg to differ , I think it is commendable to try and reduce the toxins which are plenty , indeed. the average car on the road today emits its weight in soot, toxins ect. we need the electric car, but it didn't make it , for some reason, hmmmmm I wonder why???

Quoting: ozymandias

Are you aware that those battery ran cars are more toxic for 100's maybe 1000's of years than any of the other stuff you say a car on the road emits today? Ever heard of battery acid?

He needs to try an save the something of country before he takes on more grander things.. he record ain't been to good so far..It's nothing but slavery...masked as a 'savior.'And NO i'm not a fan of pollution...not even about that,it's only about money..more money...he said he would shut down the coal mines, increase costs to where it would be so high one could barely pay for it.

Quoting: ceawaves

The Gulf of Mexico around Texas is full of PCB's and dioxin because chemical plants and refineries said they couldn't afford the cost to properly store or dispose of the waste. When rules came online governing the storage and disposal of said waste many people said it would cost people their jobs and that it would hurt the US economy.

Some parts of the coast are so saturated with PCB's they think it will take hundreds of years for it to be gone. Dioxin is not much better.

He needs to try an save the something of country before he takes on more grander things.. he record ain't been to good so far..It's nothing but slavery...masked as a 'savior.'And NO i'm not a fan of pollution...not even about that,it's only about money..more money...he said he would shut down the coal mines, increase costs to where it would be so high one could barely pay for it.

Quoting: ceawaves

The Gulf of Mexico around Texas is full of PCB's and dioxin because chemical plants and refineries said they couldn't afford the cost to properly store or dispose of the waste. When rules came online governing the storage and disposal of said waste many people said it would cost people their jobs and that it would hurt the US economy.

Some parts of the coast are so saturated with PCB's they think it will take hundreds of years for it to be gone. Dioxin is not much better.

That still does not change the fact that it's really only about the money.. Hitler was the first 'Green' Fascist.

Quoting: ceawaves

Isn't that what I said?

Quoting: luridanimus

Don't know i didn't read your links.. but heard yesterday 0's down there having his green gestapo to blow up existing oil rigs... killing millions of fish that have made them into their homes/reefs... telling you people.. they want to turn the gulf into one huge government ran fishery operation.. where there's those cages and they farm the fish, like in Japan..They're also doing this because he's shutting down all the american ran oil rigs in the gulf, unless it's a foreign country with the drilling rights, tried last night to find more info about all this.. and went to the epa site, bty: used to visit there a lot, and knew how to maneuver around the site pretty good, used to look up permits/violations all kinds of things.. now whole sites seems to have changed, except for their 'cover page' and appears they're using outdated data now, like from the late 80's 90's and early 2009, last update was like 2010.. whole thing was seemed very strange to me...i did how ever find a whole new agency, that i had never heard of before, and i've been there several times since 2010..pretty sure all this has been redone since very recently: [link to www.bsee.gov]

Some person taped them blowing up these rigs and this was reported on a local news station down there, looked for it last night but couldn't find the news clip, someone informed me about all this going on last night, about them going out there blowing up the rigs.. this has never happened before that's i've know of, the used to cap them and that was it, because sometimes they go back an retap the well..apparently there's going to be no more of that..my main concern is them killing the fish that are living on those rigs now, could be 10 of thousands=millions on these old rigs.. yet they have strict controls on what/when sport fishers are allowed to catch these same fish they're blowing apart.