They are refered to as demi-gods, (by Start), gods (by ************* Fury) and as non-gods (by Hannibal Lecter), and in 'Thor" someone said it's cool coming to earth and playing gods. Conclusion -> my name

Atheists don't believe in any god, I am one an atheist, not a god and it's not like I refuse to accept that there may or may not be gods overall - I just do not believe in any of them, whether they are there or not.

Same with Christians - they chose to believe into this one particular deity, but no Christian with reasonably working brain could deny, that indeed there may or may not be any or more gods they simply do not take as their own ones.

It's actually not one but many. It is the logical thing too. Otherwise you can't prove Harry Potter doesn't exist, so he must exist. Same with Superman, Batman, Iron Man, Aliens, Ghosts, BigFoot, Slenderman...

Do they exist? They might, but until there is no evidence we can't say that they do... Like do Aliens actually exist? We can't say, we have no evidence, therefore they do not (not matter how it is the most likely of all to exist)

Like i said, yes they might exist, but until we can't prove the exist, they do not exist.

If you say something exist, you have to prove it. Until you can't prove it you cannot say it exist. After it is proven it exist you can only say it doesn't exist if you can prove it. But you only need proof for something not existing after it was already proven to exist.

You are incorrect. It's only someone's theory. If you can't prove something exists, it means you can't confirm its existence. Nothing more and nothing less. It doesn't confirm something's lack of existence, nor the existence or its lack of something else. Simple and easy.

I find you arrogant and overconfident and this conversation got boring. You got nothing new to add. You only repeat yourself over and over again. Stay here then, believing in your assumption, that is no concern of mine.

I see now... I guess your problem is that you are a little slow in the head.

Let me explain:
What i said is that Aliens might exist, but we can't say they do until you prove it. Right? Now it seems like you don't understand that because you actually said the same thing.

It means that Aliens can exists somewhere we don't know about, but we have no evidence of their existence, therefore we cannot say "Yes Aliens exist".

Sorry for repeating myself once again, but for someone like you there is no other way. You fail to see the point and jump in conclusions while saying the same thing i did. I don't want to call you ignorant or stupid, so i stay with "little slow in the head".

You're arguing against the philosophical burden of proof, Cia. It's one of the most fundamental rules of logical thinking. Because we cannot prove a negative (there is always somewhere we haven't looked), logic says we should assume that without evidence that it does exist, it doesn't exist. That is also the basis of 'innocent until proven guilty'.

You clearly have never taken a proficient high school level science class let alone studying a scientific topic in college just from utter the words lack of proof equals none existence. According to you gravity does not exist because Newton's theories are still just that theories there is evidence they are right but no PROOF they are universal and absolute therefore gravity does not exist. (neither do black holes, evolution, relativity, most modern science) Hell you make the world sound a lot more like its described in the bible. Your lack of intelligence astounds the most motley retards.

And yeah, old artifacts do not prove that some god doesn't exist. You assume that god is that beardy guy from the bible. Your mind is so narrow, you can't even grasp the actual concept of what god is.

Initially, god is an absolute, a concept of the world, it may not even be a person. Some religions personify it, but that doesn't mean anything, it's just someone's interpretation. People believe what they chose to believe. Christans see god in this and not another way and so be it.

And holy ****, I am a darn atheist and I actually defend the religion now. Because there's so much nonsense in your words. If you picture a god only by the perspective of one religion, one small book, then you need to seriously revise your world view. And read a lot more.

They are called that by some, but my point was that, if you go back far enough, our ancestors would consider anyone with a lighter to be a god of fire, a taser would make you Zeus, etc.
Technology can appear to be magic to someone who doesn't know what it is.

In the movie verse they are aliens who are so advanced that they can not be distinguished from aliens. In the comics they are literal gods. The movie verse are from another "planet" (more like a space city). The comic version is from another plane of existence.

No, they are literal gods. They use magic. There is an actual Yggdrasil that links the nine realms together, not just a constellation. Loki's daughter Hel actual rules over a hell like afterlife. Admittedly it is kind of weird because the movie version is no different from comics except having spaceships and bringing up that they are aliens but in the comics they are actual immortal gods.

and actually they weren't actual gods originally either. "The Olympians are a race of extra-dimensional beings that possess a variety of mystical superhuman abilities that were once worshipped on Earth as gods" These were supposedly immortal.

Asgardians only lived long and were not immortal. And they had no powers other than being strong "Asgardian flesh and bone is three times denser than similar human tissue contributing to their superhuman strength and weight"

I have heard of and read Ultimate Comics. Nobody believed he was a god, simply a psychotic man with powers, until he was confirmed to be a god (Ultimates 2).

I will acknowledge that I was incorrect about the immortal thing but they are gods. They weren't originally worshiped by humanity but that doesn't change the fact that the are magical higher level beings who functioned as gods to the Norse. The Norse origin is likely true for the Asgardians. Thor's mother is the goddess Gaea. Odin has access to a divine magic called the Odin Force.

Holy crap balls, this is one of my biggest comic book peeves. Thor and Loki and all of the Asguardians are not gods, They are an alien race that lives thousands of years and has a type of technology that to us is like magic. When they visited earth many centuries ago the locals saw their technology and started treating them as gods. Asgaurdians are NOT immortal, and are in NO way actual gods. The Marvel Universe DOES have its fair share of actual gods and spirits, but NONE of them are Asguardian.

From personal experience I recommend you grow beyond the need to be a grammar nazi asap. People will only ever think of you as a douche no matter how hard you try. They'll continue to make the same mistakes and it will still drive you nuts. Plus, on the internet, you might very well be speaking to someone that doesn't speak English as a first language. That type of thing is hardly encouraging.

Believe you me, as a guy that gets a hard on just hearing the name "Edwin Newman" I would love it if everyone was as enthusiastic about language as I am. That is simply not the case no matter how many times I clack my heels together and repeat "there's nothing like proper English".

Oh yeah. Then when you go and start pointing out the flaws in others' English you welcome the same right back onto yourself with a wicked force. For example.

"It's Asgardians (there is no reason for these to be on separate lines and both "Asgardian" and "asguardian (sic)" should be in quotes as I've demonstrated) not asguardians[.] (don't forget proper punctuation like periods at the ends of sentences.)
(Don't forget to capitalize the first letter in a sentence) [S]orry but spelling mistakes is my biggest pet peeve[.]"

Don't be that guy. You only make people mad and you look like a douche when you don't even demonstrate the ability to live up to your own standards.

let me just acknowledge that the function of grammar is to make language as efficient and clear and transparent as possible. But if we're all constantly correcting each others grammar and being really snotty about it, then people stop talking because they start to be petrified that they're going to make some sort of terrible grammatical error and that's precisely the opposite of what grammar is supposed to do, which is to facilitate clear communication.
-John Green

a quote for your rant

Few things concentrate the mind more efficiently than the necessity of saying what you mean. It brings you face to face with what you are talking about, what you are actually proposing. It gets you away from the catch phrases that not merely substitute for thought but preclude it.
-edwin Newman

I was actually going to point it out as well but he beat me to it. Believe me when I say that it has nothing to do with bad grammar. Its the same as if I were having a conversation about funnyjunk and kept saying "fannyjunk" instead. Bad example because people would just think I'm doing it on purpose for some reason. Baiting or whatever. Couldn't think of anything else.

I don't know what's that called if there's even a name for it. It's my pet peeve as well but I rarely bother commenting on them. I have no problem when it comes to people with bad grammar.

One last thing. He wasn't being a dick about it and even apologized so whats up with the rant? To me, you're the one who looks like a douche. No offense.

I'm not a grammar nazi
I'm terrible at grammar as you clearly and unnecessarily pointed out
only spelling mistakes bug me
and trust me i know people think i am a douche because of it
hence why i stopped correcting my friends and others in person years ago
now i only rarely correct people on the internet
but thank you for talking to me like i'm some socially challenged teenager
the only reason i corrected the spelling is because it is a common mistake because people take the name asgard in the sense of the word guard because of the thought that they are guardians so it perpetuates the incorrect spelling when people see it and continue to use it as such
so i thought it would be good to make sure people who didn't know the spelling of it to know their mistake so as to stop the common misconception at the source
sorry if it made you mad or uncomfortable
i didn't mean to release your inner rage grammar nazi
and on top of that

It doesn't bother me one bit. If you want to correct someone that's your business. My subtle point was that growing beyond the need to correct people just because it peeves you is among the ways to triumph over social awkwardness.

And because no good leader (not that I'm seriously claiming to be a good leader) does anything without showing an example take a look at the response my comment has garnered. I've caught more flack than you. People might not always say it, but that is the general response. It only results in more social awkwardness. If you can rise above that before your teens are over then you will have done yourself a service far greater than... pretty much anything I can think of.

I don't expect you to take my word on it, but that wasn't a personal attack and I rarely step into others' business like that. Maybe the stars aligned just right, but something caught my eye about your post so I went for it. How well a service I did is up for history to decide now. I shant be a nuisance any longer in this debate.

My apologies, I thought you were baiting with a question like that. But no, Deadpool is just a mutant although I've forgotten most of the details of his origin story. Thats the comicbook version anyway.

"A demigod (or demi-god) is a divine or supernatural being in classical mythology. The term has been used in various ways at different times and can refer to a figure who has attained divine status after death, a minor deity, or a mortal who is the offspring of a god and a human."

So as he's neither attained divine status after death or a minor diety, though we don't know who his parents are, its safe to say he is not a Demi-God.

not yet, that wasn't what i meant, i mean that if he finds an artifact or something that gives godlike powers but when normal people try to gain it it's too much and tears them apart, deadpool could take that power and survive

It really kinda depends on the author. Comic book writers really suck at staying true to previous writers, for many reaons. Mostly 1) They didn't do all the reading up on the characters their writing and 2) they just plain think the previous writer had stupid ideas and decided to retcon or complete ignore previously established fact.
It kinda goes back and forth, at least in the 616 Marvel Universe. I think in the Ultimate Universe Asgardians are for sure aliens.

I wasn't talkin' sh*t I was explaining to slowpokeforever a common occurance that happens among people who have emotional relationships with individuals that either do not exist or that they do not know enough information about. We fill in the blanks.

It does, if the person hasn't learned enough about Tony. We could have a definitive knowledge of Tony Stark and every single aspect of his personality and character traits, but if someone only knows a little bit and they desire to have more connection, they will fill the gaps.

Comics Tony sure, I'm talking about Movie Tony. And to your spoiler, just because he's smart doesn't exhume him from religion. The Dalai Lama and the Pope are very intelligent but are devout. Come on man.

I don't understand why everyone is so butthurt about the post calling Thor and Loki gods. Ok, they're not gods in the Marvel universe but they're obviously based on norse mythology so ... I think it's forgivable

That's actually perfectly plausible. Captain America met two superior beings from another Universe, that were most likely considered gods by ancient civilizations on Earth. The Abrahamic God could still exist beyond the realm of Earth and Asgard etc.

Just how, IRL, even if you have theistic/deistic views you can totally separate them from Abrahamism (I'm kidding, most mofos are too stupid for that) and notice that every existing religion is both stupid and made-up, a fact backed up by both logical an d historical arguments.