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Solo - Rachmaninoff Elegie Op 3 #1, Schumann Op 12 Warum, Grillen and a few short pieces by various composersCollaboration - Concerto in C for Oboe and orchestra attributed to Haydn edited by Evelyn Rosewell and some duets

Well after some thought, I will put my name down for the Melody op. 47 no. 3. If my teacher does not think this piece is suitable; I will look for another piece by Grieg to learn, because I would really like to be a part of this recital.

OK, Rossy, I am going to be one of your unruly children. Would you change my second choice to 47 7 Elegy? I keep listening to the available pieces and fall in love with a new one everyday. This one has grown on me the most!

- I don't know if I've got the wrong end of the stick but it appears that a few of us have given up their 2nd choice. What is the point of that?

It doesn't make any difference to a potential new participant who can freely pick from all those pieces in the main list which are still unassigned, and in giving up your 2nd choice, another participant looking for a 2nd choice is now free to put a 'hold' on a piece for which you've relinquished an option. It's only a conditional option, anyway.

... a few of us have given up their 2nd choice. What is the point of that?

Purely psychological, dire tonic.

When we're trying to entice newcomers to the recital or those that might be undecided (or they would have joined in already) they might not be as forthcoming if there are names already against unassigned pieces and to "pinch" them off someone might make them feel uncomfortable if they felt they weren't able to do as good a job, perhaps.

There's a history of interests in the thread and whilst no-one would look askance if a newcomer opted to do Summer's Eve, say, it would be frowned upon if I took it from Farm Girl as soon as second choices were allowed. But to include them in the main list may not be appropriate.

We could all be reminded of who has expressed interests before the call for second pieces goes out.______________________

... a few of us have given up their 2nd choice. What is the point of that?

Purely psychological, dire tonic.

When we're trying to entice newcomers to the recital or those that might be undecided (or they would have joined in already) they might not be as forthcoming if there are names already against unassigned pieces and to "pinch" them off someone might make them feel uncomfortable if they felt they weren't able to do as good a job, perhaps.

There's a history of interests in the thread and whilst no-one would look askance if a newcomer opted to do Summer's Eve, say, it would be frowned upon if I took it from Farm Girl as soon as second choices were allowed. But to include them in the main list may not be appropriate.

We could all be reminded of who has expressed interests before the call for second pieces goes out.______________________

Great to see you in, Irene!

This, and the fact that me and a few others can play more difficult pieces and so we didn't want to discourage someone who is limited in what they can choose from. We got our first choices that we're happy with. I'm still sort of working on my 2nd choice, as I think it is more difficult, but I'd rather get another participant.

I don't believe we've announced this recital on the Pianist Corner, have we? That's how I found out about the Mendelssohn recital. We could post on there - and also maybe the Teacher Forum as well.

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Morodiene,

Wayne once advertised on PC for submissions to a recital and he got a response.

I believe it may not have been the response he was hoping for, I believe the term "lead balloon" may have been used in the next post wayne did after that one.

Its dark and argumentative over there sometimes, and funny thing is for so many clever, intellectual and talented folk that do dwell on PC ; That proportionally , when compared to ABF they have so many many threads locked down due to arguments that descend into chaos and nastiness, compared to ABF where it is quite rare.

One could ask I suppose....

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... a few of us have given up their 2nd choice. What is the point of that?

Purely psychological, dire tonic.

When we're trying to entice newcomers to the recital or those that might be undecided (or they would have joined in already) they might not be as forthcoming if there are names already against unassigned pieces and to "pinch" them off someone might make them feel uncomfortable if they felt they weren't able to do as good a job, perhaps.

There's a history of interests in the thread and whilst no-one would look askance if a newcomer opted to do Summer's Eve, say, it would be frowned upon if I took it from Farm Girl as soon as second choices were allowed. But to include them in the main list may not be appropriate.

We could all be reminded of who has expressed interests before the call for second pieces goes out.______________________

Great to see you in, Irene!

+1. Yep. I cannot agree with you more. Re Summer's eve, I remember AimeeO mentioned that it makes her think of a certain product.. Here's my research result. http://www.summerseve.com/It makes this "night club" sounding music much more fascinating to me. When I listened to the music. I know I'm thinking too much.

Edited by FarmGirl (05/05/1310:49 AM)

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Solo - Rachmaninoff Elegie Op 3 #1, Schumann Op 12 Warum, Grillen and a few short pieces by various composersCollaboration - Concerto in C for Oboe and orchestra attributed to Haydn edited by Evelyn Rosewell and some duets

Wayne once advertised on PC for submissions to a recital and he got a response.

I believe it may not have been the response he was hoping for, I believe the term "lead balloon" may have been used in the next post wayne did after that one.

Its dark and argumentative over there sometimes, and funny thing is for so many clever, intellectual and talented folk that do dwell on PC ; That proportionally , when compared to ABF they have so many many threads locked down due to arguments that descend into chaos and nastiness, compared to ABF where it is quite rare.

One could ask I suppose....

Originally Posted By: Rostosky

Morodiene,

Wayne once advertised on PC for submissions to a recital and he got a response.

I believe it may not have been the response he was hoping for, I believe the term "lead balloon" may have been used in the next post wayne did after that one.

Its dark and argumentative over there sometimes, and funny thing is for so many clever, intellectual and talented folk that do dwell on PC ; That proportionally , when compared to ABF they have so many many threads locked down due to arguments that descend into chaos and nastiness, compared to ABF where it is quite rare.

One could ask I suppose....

My suggestion is to cross post this in the piano teacher's forum. One reason why Mendelssohn invitation was not warmly received by some in the PC is because of the pieces. As you know many of them are current or former conservatory or University piano performance students if not professional. I think they are more into pieces like Chopin Ballade, Liszt TE, Ondine etc. Its not that they don't appreciate collection of little musical gems in our recital pieces, but don't have time / emotional space to even think of them. Piano teachers, on the other hand, appreciate our endeavor. They can probably pick new pieces by experiencing the journey together. We want people like Morodiene, right? She would've seen the invitation in the teacher's forum had it been posted there.

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Solo - Rachmaninoff Elegie Op 3 #1, Schumann Op 12 Warum, Grillen and a few short pieces by various composersCollaboration - Concerto in C for Oboe and orchestra attributed to Haydn edited by Evelyn Rosewell and some duets

What a mix of ideas we are getting here! Its great that so many of us now care enough about the success of this next recital to make helpful suggestions - like an offer of putting the recordings together, dropping 2nd choices to encourage people to come forward, including other Grieg music beyond the lyric pieces (maybe expecting the lyric pieces to be oversubscribed). People have even started to offer support to each other on how to play tricky bits! And its not even been a week since the Mendelssohn recital ended!

I think we just need to be a bit careful not to get carried away. As with the first three of the themed recitals: Glass, Satie and Mendelssohn, a single complete body of work was performed by ordinary folk (beginners, improvers and others hanging out on RST or the recital threads) - who got involved organically as the idea spread over a period of time. My personal view is that there are enough of us to fill up the list - to perform all of the lyric pieces without putting out appeals to those on other forums. Lets give it time to let people come forward - time for them to get hold of the music, give it a try and dip their toes in the water. After all, one of the main benefits of this way of doing things is that people are prepared to nudge their boundaries a little, and support each other in this. If we were to invite more advanced pianists to participate that benefit might be lost.

And if we find ourselves in the happy situation of having more people than pieces then I think we should then (and only then) consider other works by Grieg.

That's the edition of Lyric Pieces I have. But, I bought it years ago from Dover directly. Talk about a great price on Amazon!!! I find the Dover editions very easy on my eyes to read. Only problem I have with them is getting the book to stay open!! But, the binding can take a beating. My Dover edition of Chopin Nocturnes has stood up extrememly well.

And it is available on Amazon.it too. (It is available for Kindle, but I can't see trying to use my kindle at the piano.........nope, that's not going to happen!Unfortunately the price in Italy is considerably more than in the USA. The Amazon.co.uk site has it at a good price but only sells to UK residents!

_________________________ XVIII-XXXVISometimes I try to progress faster than I am ready for.SwissMsFollow your teacher's instructions and practice wisely/much, and you'll soon wonder how you ever found it hard. BobPicklePerformance anxiety: make it part of your daily routine and deal with it...Cope! zrtf90

Book depository (owned by amazon) ship worldwide and are usually cheaper.

ETA : just checked USA site and they are way cheaper.

I use them often too (great service!)...however in this case the price difference between them and Amazon.it was just a few cents, and I have amazon prime for Italy so don't pay delivery for anything (Prime only cost 9.99 for the first year, I imagine it will go up a lot for the second year, but I don't plan on renewing it!).

The USA site, and the UK site both had REALLY cheap versions! sigh... oh well.My hubby is going to shake his head when he sees ANOTHER book of music arrive. lol.

_________________________ XVIII-XXXVISometimes I try to progress faster than I am ready for.SwissMsFollow your teacher's instructions and practice wisely/much, and you'll soon wonder how you ever found it hard. BobPicklePerformance anxiety: make it part of your daily routine and deal with it...Cope! zrtf90

I bought the same dover version from Amazon.de. It was reasonably priced and free shipping to Switzerland with prime. It said there was only one copy left. We are cleaning them out!

There were only 4 available when I ordered mine. I wonder if anyone is noticing a trend in music purchases this week lol...

_________________________ XVIII-XXXVISometimes I try to progress faster than I am ready for.SwissMsFollow your teacher's instructions and practice wisely/much, and you'll soon wonder how you ever found it hard. BobPicklePerformance anxiety: make it part of your daily routine and deal with it...Cope! zrtf90

I just took advantage of $3.99 offer as well. I also bought a duet book called Sylvia Rabinof: 15 Classical Masterpieces with Added Second Piano Parts and a book called First Four Notes. I think Anazon should pay PW commission.

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Solo - Rachmaninoff Elegie Op 3 #1, Schumann Op 12 Warum, Grillen and a few short pieces by various composersCollaboration - Concerto in C for Oboe and orchestra attributed to Haydn edited by Evelyn Rosewell and some duets

Talking about scores... I am writing down my own with Musescore, so I can print it larger than the one on IMSLP and I can add my own fingering and notes. Thought it might be a good exercise to see if I'm memorizing the piece correctly!

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