When you can afford sli 680's or xfire 7970's, I don't think an extra $200 is really going to hurt you that much. If it does, you need some financial therapy as you shouldn't considering those cards in the first place then.

I was wondering why the 7970s have been going up. Guess it's a good thing I bought a 7970GHz even with the $20 price increase. Took 3 years for me to get tired of my 5870 Vapor-X, hoping my 7970GHz Vapor-X does that same thing! I love my Vapor-X

I was wondering why the 7970s have been going up. Guess it's a good thing I bought a 7970GHz even with the $20 price increase. Took 3 years for me to get tired of my 5870 Vapor-X, hoping my 7970GHz Vapor-X does that same thing! I love my Vapor-X

In another email between Dan Vivoli of Nvidia and Dave Orton of ATI, Dan wrote:

"I really think we should work harder together on the marketing front. As you and I have talked about, even though we are competitors, we have the common goal of making our category a well positioned, respected playing field. $5 and $8 stocks are the result of no respect."

In the same email, Dan wrote:

"Both of us have spent the last three years trying to bring the perceived value of our products up to the level of Intel. The "GPU" category is clean and has served us well that way. We both have increased the price of our high end product several fold over the last 4 years while Intel’s high end prices have more than halved. Creating another category serves to work contradictory to that. How does one cleanly position it versus a GPU and a CPU?? It will tear down what we have both built."

other industries? pc's are the worst industries for collusion, the DRAM cartels, the LCD panel cartels, hard drive manufacturers...name one component in the pc that hasn't had a charge or fine for collusion.

The Steam survey is probably the most accurate hardware survey we have for PC enthusiasts and gamers. I don't think its that biased more than any other survey ever taken.

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The fact of the matter is, an AMD rep himself has said (on this very site mind you) at this point nothing has been announced, so this has to all be taken with a grain of salt. For all we know the 8 series could drop in less than 3 months, or it could be 2014.

Personally, my opinion is that it will be a chest thump by Nvidia (Titan) and a patient AMD waiting on the actual important player, the 780, to come out and then drop the new cards. Much like the Ghz edition of the 7970 is technically as of right now, the single fastest stock single gpu card, they will wait to see what Nvidia brings then drop something slightly ahead or better. And thus, the cycle begins again.

An AMD rep themselves also told us many things that also turned out to be false. I think memory around here gets selective

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@tsm106

they have sea island in the pipeline for probably 2 years already, this is probably AMD in need to sell some more 7k cards they have left. Perhaps sales figures for their cards haven't been looking good.

This is probably closer to the reason that we REALLY aren't seeing HD8000 yet.

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^^That would be collusion and highly illegal for the record. That said it's not unheard in other industries.

I was going to comment on this but 2 posts down someone else beat me two it

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Cloudfire I don't agree with most of what you've said, but I will say that at the very least neither company has shown any real desire to take the gloves off these past ~16 months.

I think they are soaking up profits from this series of GPUs as much as they can.

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other industries? pc's are the worst industries for collusion, the DRAM cartels, the LCD panel cartels, hard drive manufacturers...name one component in the pc that hasn't had a charge or fine for collusion.