FlashHarry:OSULugan: My problem with President Obama is the broken promises, not the unemployment.

which ones?

Allow 5 days of public comment before signing non-emergency billsClose Guantanamo Bay Detention CenterAnnual Speech to lay out national security policyNegotiate Health Care Reform in public sessionsFMLA - Employee Count Threshold ReductionRequire Employers to provide 7 paid sick days per year

Besides his more generic "Hope/Change" message which he promptly discarded in favor of signing Patriot Act extensions, increasing DHS/TSA authorities as well as stupid things like banning the sale of clove cigarettes.

Some of these things he's not had great control over, but simple ones his administration had direct control over, and chose to do otherwise.

OSULugan:Besides his more generic "Hope/Change" message which he promptly discarded in favor of signing Patriot Act extensions, increasing DHS/TSA authorities as well as stupid things like banning the sale of clove cigarettes.

Some of these things he's not had great control over, but simple ones his administration had direct control over, and chose to do otherwise.

Full disclosure: Mitt does not excite me either.

fair enough - though hope and change is pretty tough when the entire republican party is unified against you, with the media parroting its bullshiat.

still, ending DADT, passing obamacare, and enacting wall st. reform (weak though it may be), is a lot of hope and change for a single term. when you add it to preventing a second worldwide depression, i'm inclined to cut the guy some serious slack.

FlashHarry:air enough - though hope and change is pretty tough when the entire republican party is unified against you, with the media parroting its bullshiat.

What he said. The Republican party pretty much blatantly said that they would nuke our economy if that what it takes to make Obama a one term President. The fact that Romney has the balls to talk about unemployment given the fact that he made his fortune destroying American companies and sending jobs to China shows that he is completely clueless or thinks everyone else is.

OSULugan:FlashHarry: OSULugan: My problem with President Obama is the broken promises, not the unemployment.

which ones?

Allow 5 days of public comment before signing non-emergency billsClose Guantanamo Bay Detention CenterAnnual Speech to lay out national security policyNegotiate Health Care Reform in public sessionsFMLA - Employee Count Threshold ReductionRequire Employers to provide 7 paid sick days per year

Besides his more generic "Hope/Change" message which he promptly discarded in favor of signing Patriot Act extensions, increasing DHS/TSA authorities as well as stupid things like banning the sale of clove cigarettes.

Some of these things he's not had great control over, but simple ones his administration had direct control over, and chose to do otherwise.

Full disclosure: Mitt does not excite me either.

All of your problems are with Congress except for the Annual Speech and public comment ones. The public comment one is never going to happen - I would be willing to bet if you were elected you yourself wouldn't follow through on this.

The public option and Guantanamo ones though, he really tried to push that through. he just isn't a dictator

OSULugan:FlashHarry: OSULugan: My problem with President Obama is the broken promises, not the unemployment.

which ones?

Allow 5 days of public comment before signing non-emergency billsClose Guantanamo Bay Detention CenterAnnual Speech to lay out national security policyNegotiate Health Care Reform in public sessionsFMLA - Employee Count Threshold ReductionRequire Employers to provide 7 paid sick days per year

Besides his more generic "Hope/Change" message which he promptly discarded in favor of signing Patriot Act extensions, increasing DHS/TSA authorities as well as stupid things like banning the sale of clove cigarettes.

Some of these things he's not had great control over, but simple ones his administration had direct control over, and chose to do otherwise.

So yesterday Obama was an empty suit who couldn't organize a circle jerk if you spotted him all the lefties, but today he's a Machiavellian uber-genius who can manipulate data like Mozart at the harpsichord?

Is there some kind of schedule that's printed so we know which day is which?

7.8% is nothing to brag on, so why are people making it out to be such a big deal?

If Obama wants to really make me happy, he needs to have the government take out some of those ridiculously cheap loans on offer and put some people back to work.

The delta of -0.3% drop in the U3 in one month is huge. 0.4% since August. That's a 0.2% drop each month. If that improvement continues you would have 7.3% by the end of Obama 1st term.

Assuming it even progressed at half that rate, you would be looking at 5.5% is less than 2 years. It is more about trajectory than anything else.

Consider that U3 was at 9% this time last year. That is a very impressive improvement. Outpacing Reagan's recovery in his last but also outpacing other industrialized economies. At that rate you will be well under 6% next year. The prospect of this happening while Obama is in charge is truly terrifying for the GOP.

7.8% is nothing to brag on, so why are people making it out to be such a big deal?

If Obama wants to really make me happy, he needs to have the government take out some of those ridiculously cheap loans on offer and put some people back to work.

The delta of -0.3% drop in the U3 in one month is huge. 0.4% since August. That's a 0.2% drop each month. If that improvement continues you would have 7.3% by the end of Obama 1st term.

Assuming it even progressed at half that rate, you would be looking at 5.5% is less than 2 years. It is more about trajectory than anything else.

Consider that U3 was at 9% this time last year. That is a very impressive improvement. Outpacing Reagan's recovery in his last but also outpacing other industrialized economies. At that rate you will be well under 6% next year. The prospect of this happening while Obama is in charge is truly terrifying for the GOP.

Which makes Romney's promise to bring unemployment down to 6% by the end of his first term interesting.

SnakeLee:All of your problems are with Congress except for the Annual Speech and public comment ones. The public comment one is never going to happen - I would be willing to bet if you were elected you yourself wouldn't follow through on this.

Perhaps, but I wouldn't promise to do it to get elected in the first place.

And while I'm sure Congressional opposition to President Obama has been a thorn in his side, his non-answer to Wednesday's debate question on crossing party lines is indicative of the administration's problems in getting initiatives through congress.

7.8% is nothing to brag on, so why are people making it out to be such a big deal?

If Obama wants to really make me happy, he needs to have the government take out some of those ridiculously cheap loans on offer and put some people back to work.

The delta of -0.3% drop in the U3 in one month is huge. 0.4% since August. That's a 0.2% drop each month. If that improvement continues you would have 7.3% by the end of Obama 1st term.

Assuming it even progressed at half that rate, you would be looking at 5.5% is less than 2 years. It is more about trajectory than anything else.

Consider that U3 was at 9% this time last year. That is a very impressive improvement. Outpacing Reagan's recovery in his last but also outpacing other industrialized economies. At that rate you will be well under 6% next year. The prospect of this happening while Obama is in charge is truly terrifying for the GOP.

Which makes Romney's promise to bring unemployment down to 6% by the end of his first term interesting.

I think we could bank on Romney having a math guy as good at this kind of projection as the GOP collective is at the other.

7.8% is nothing to brag on, so why are people making it out to be such a big deal?

If Obama wants to really make me happy, he needs to have the government take out some of those ridiculously cheap loans on offer and put some people back to work.

The delta of -0.3% drop in the U3 in one month is huge. 0.4% since August. That's a 0.2% drop each month. If that improvement continues you would have 7.3% by the end of Obama 1st term.

Assuming it even progressed at half that rate, you would be looking at 5.5% is less than 2 years. It is more about trajectory than anything else.

Consider that U3 was at 9% this time last year. That is a very impressive improvement. Outpacing Reagan's recovery in his last but also outpacing other industrialized economies. At that rate you will be well under 6% next year. The prospect of this happening while Obama is in charge is truly terrifying for the GOP.

Which makes Romney's promise to bring unemployment down to 6% by the end of his first term interesting.

That would certainly make an interesting rebuttal point if anyone minimizes how quickly the U3 is dropping under Obama.

Mr. Coffee Nerves:So yesterday Obama was an empty suit who couldn't organize a circle jerk if you spotted him all the lefties, but today he's a Machiavellian uber-genius who can manipulate data like Mozart at the harpsichord?

Is there some kind of schedule that's printed so we know which day is which?

No, he's both at the same time.

He's also a Muslim-socialist and a radical-Christian-fascist. simultaneously.