That's the thing with maps though. You need usage data to improv it, Apple has been helping Google making Google Maps better and better and now they'll need to collect usage to improve their own maps. Apple's maps won't be even close to Google Maps for quite some time but they'll eventually catch up and they may even surpass given the amount of usage Google is missing from no longer having access to iOS users usage.

09-20-2012

uofmtiger

Yep, Safari is definitely snappier than it was before. Also, there was some sort of bug that made a difficult to switch from wifi to LTE on my iPad3 and now it goes back and forth without an issue.

I also tried Siri for sports. Very impressive, you can get sports scores, rosters, ask it who plays QB for the Broncos and it will pull up everyone that plays the position. I also tried it with basketball by asking for the Miami Heat roster and it pulls up each player with a pic of each player. Not sure how it works with other sports, but for NFL and NBA, it is pretty cool.

I checked out that turn by turn instructions on my way home from work last night. It was interesting that audio only came out over my speakers when I was using Bluetooth audio to stream music (my phone wasn't plugged into the car). However, when I switched to the radio, it did not come out of the speakers. They have an easy to access button that allows you to switch to iPhone speakers very easily, though. I can't say how great the mapping was, since I take backstreets to get home, but it is a nice feature than may make it possible to leave the Garmin at home when we travel with the gf's vehicle.

Edit: I forgot to ask if anyone has tried the maps.google.com on the web versus the old Google Map app on the iPhone? Is there a major difference? I rarely use maps on my iPhone, but I am curious.

09-20-2012

dc89

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tutankhamun

That's the thing with maps though. You need usage data to improv it, Apple has been helping Google making Google Maps better and better and now they'll need to collect usage to improve their own maps. Apple's maps won't be even close to Google Maps for quite some time but they'll eventually catch up and they may even surpass given the amount of usage Google is missing from no longer having access to iOS users usage.

But Google have access to the usage data from Android, and that has a larger install base than iOS now.

Apple just messed up I think, they were desperate to get Google off their platform and at the moment, it's at detriment to their own customer.

Everyone is talking about this now from Sky News to BBC News and then all the tech sites:

I've said it since I got the beta at WWDC. These maps are poop! All my friends who own iPhones told me "You're in a beta, what do you expect? They will improve them for the iOS launch" etc.

I got a text today from a friend "you were right, these maps are shit".

Android have a larger install base but data suggest Android users doesn't use internet services to the same extent as iOS users. iOS has truly helped Google Maps grow, no doubt. Rumors are flying around that Google has their own Google Maps app sent for review so it seems clear they think being on iOS is important. That doesn't excuse Apple's maps for having issues but it does offer an explanation. Honestly, from playing around with them for me it's not a huge deal it seems to find the places I search for fairly well and the map layout is decent. The satellite images are another story but I don't relay on them.

I wouldn't automatically assume it was only Apple's decision to end the contract with Google though, it may well have been a mutual decision. Google having their own apps will allow them to sell their product (users) much easier than just being the backend to an Apple written app would. There's reasons for both companies to separate.

09-20-2012

uofmtiger

Google did not offer turn by turn directions on the iPhone, so that may have played a part.

09-20-2012

Tutankhamun

Quote:

Originally Posted by uofmtiger

Google did not offer turn by turn directions on the iPhone, so that may have played a part.

Yeah. And their API restricted usage of their vector maps as well.

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Ordered an iPhone 5 today. 32GB White. Too bad it isn't mine. It's for my mom, our carrier started taking pre-orders at midnight so she asked if I could put one through if I was up and I did.

09-21-2012

z36cbr

Hi, can you please upload the app again? I need it too. Thanx in advance! :)

I believe (not confirmed but heard through the grapevine) that the exact price for a 32GB model from Apple will be 6795kr - the 16GB starting at 5795kr.

The thing is though, if you order it subsidized from, say, Telia you'll end up paying a lot more. Like 2000kr more before the contract is up after 24 months at least with the plans they're offering for pre-orders (they only have three right now). I have a really good plan right now but the contract is up and I'd like to keep it so I got to buy it without a contract. And I'd rather deal with Apple than ordering through a carrier, every time I've ordered from Telia I've gotten burned on delivery times.

Importing from the U.S is complicated, if you get caught in customs you'll have to pay a 25% interest of the price of the goods to the government and whatnot.

09-21-2012

MATRIX 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tutankhamun

I believe (not confirmed but heard through the grapevine) that the exact price for a 32GB model from Apple will be 6795kr - the 16GB starting at 5795kr.

The thing is though, if you order it subsidized from, say, Telia you'll end up paying a lot more. Like 2000kr more before the contract is up after 24 months at least with the plans they're offering for pre-orders (they only have three right now). I have a really good plan right now but the contract is up and I'd like to keep it so I got to buy it without a contract. And I'd rather deal with Apple than ordering through a carrier, every time I've ordered from Telia I've gotten burned on delivery times.

Importing from the U.S is complicated, if you get caught in customs you'll have to pay a 25% interest of the price of the goods to the government and whatnot.

Right, which is why you buy it unlocked. But still, considering it goes for $750 and you pay $1041, there is a substantial savings to be had. And how exactly can they find out in customs if it is sent by private mail delivery?

09-21-2012

MjW

I ordered two 32GB iPhone 5s this morning. A black for me and a white for the gf.

12 month contract. Who knows, might have to get an other one next year :p

I tried ordering last night when preorders begun but carrier's website was down to its knees. I ordered the phones with 5 minutes difference and there were already 342 orders in between.

TA-pa-TA-pa-taPAtalk

09-21-2012

Tutankhamun

Quote:

Originally Posted by MATRIX 2

Right, which is why you buy it unlocked. But still, considering it goes for $750 and you pay $1041, there is a substantial savings to be had. And how exactly can they find out in customs if it is sent by private mail delivery?

The difference is the VAT essentially. They don't find out if its a private delivery and the sender writes gift on the parcel. But otherwise they'll check. I imagine they do some random checks as well now and then.

The other issue with ordering from the U.S now is wait times, the initial stock has already been sold online and they only have phones in physical stores now. The wait time from the U.S online store is currently 3-4 weeks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MjW

I ordered two 32GB iPhone 5s this morning. A black for me and a white for the gf.

12 month contract. Who knows, might have to get an other one next year :p

I tried ordering last night when preorders begun but carrier's website was down to its knees. I ordered the phones with 5 minutes difference and there were already 342 orders in between.

TA-pa-TA-pa-taPAtalk

Did you order from Telia? I managed to get my moms order through like 00:40 and I had to use Chrome. Wouldn't work in Safari. Kind of funny how Telia's site crashes every year, one would think they'd learn to adjust for the demand.

09-21-2012

BBK..

Almost left town with a 64GB white one. Only because that was the only one they had in stock :lol: the sensible side told me to wait till i get back from 'Merica and buy a 32GB Black like originally intended.

I feel like O2 have screwed me over, i called them up when the 4S was released and got put onto a rolling contract what I was told i would be able to pre-order the IP5 as soon as it was announced, fast forward a few months and they say i'm last in priority to upgrade. }

God damn I hate waiting.

09-21-2012

keefy

Why the rush, your exsiting phone sends and recieve texts, calls, emails.
Wouldn't it be cheaper in the US anyway?

09-21-2012

Tutankhamun

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyBettaKnow

Almost left town with a 64GB white one. Only because that was the only one they had in stock :lol: the sensible side told me to wait till i get back from 'Merica and buy a 32GB Black like originally intended.

I feel like O2 have screwed me over, i called them up when the 4S was released and got put onto a rolling contract what I was told i would be able to pre-order the IP5 as soon as it was announced, fast forward a few months and they say i'm last in priority to upgrade. }

Why the rush, your exsiting phone sends and recieve texts, calls, emails.
Wouldn't it be cheaper in the US anyway?

I have one vice and that's buying a new iPhone every two years as fast as possible.

09-21-2012

MjW

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tutankhamun

Did you order from Telia? I managed to get my moms order through like 00:40 and I had to use Chrome. Wouldn't work in Safari. Kind of funny how Telia's site crashes every year, one would think they'd learn to adjust for the demand.

Halebop. Kind of the same.

It was impossible to order last night. I just hope I'll get mine a couple of days after release, or early October latest.