Everyone is a fucking victim suddenly. Why don't we all just glue bottles to our mouths since we're all spoiled little whiny babies now?

Bottom line, ya ready for it? Here it is:

If Skyrim DLC releases, you will be entitled to pay for it with your, or probably your parent's, money.

There, there it is. Either pay for it or don't pay for it. Bethesda isn't going to go through all the trouble of making it, then fixing it forever, just to give it to you for free. Don't like it? Don't pay for it! Bottom-fucking-line.

Now can we all leave this plane of fucking self-victimization and incessant whining, and return to being rational mature adults?!!??!?!

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I didn't disagree with you, I said your examples didn't make sense for your argument. If you take some of the time you spent typing out this profanity filled complaint, you'd see that I don't think there is really anything they can do and never suggested them offering the DLC free or discounted. But I'm the immature one...

In terms of the actual topic, not sure much could be done anyways outside of the apologies already given. Ideally it would be nice for them to get the DLC working on PS3 and maybe have a slightly discounted price, but I don't see that happening. It's just one of those screw-ups that you can't really fix and everyone loses. It'd be nice for maybe some PS3-exclusive content for their next game as a way to make amends (provided that content works).

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Meh... The only thing I'm "asking" them is to release games that aren't so messed up in the future. Minor bugs and fixes can be patched. A slideshow festival shouldn't be on the market.

We're entitled to ask this from the best game makers in the industry.

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Here's an interesting theory about that.

Because their games have been so glitch and bug ridden, the community complained about every little they ran into. This made Bethesda repair every little thing gamers complained of instead of focusing on the main issues.

With each successive game, they've reduced the overall amount of problems, but it wasn't until they overhauled their engine (Wiping most of the typical problems with it) that they finally came face to face with the most major flaw of their engine, which has always been there (I ran into tough in both Fallouts).

They knew what it was for quite some time now, but they've been patching up all the other minor and immediate issues.

They have next to no choice but to eliminate this issue before putting out another game because the community may not tolerate it next time..for realz...

I just want a game that runs as well on PS3 as it does on the Xbox version. It's a shame we get the inferior game for the superior console.

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That's what happens when one console architecture is radically different than the other. That, and the games sell more on 360 so its the lead console so there's not much of an effort to utilize whatever else PS3 has.

The only thing(s) PS3 owners of Skyrim are entitled to is a working game that they paid 60 schmackaroonies for. Are they entitled to free DLC because it hasn't come to them yet? No. Why no? Because NO. Look, pretty much every single game ever created has been delayed at some point. Bioshock Infinite has been delayed repeatedly, and don't even get me started on the purgatory that is THE LAST GUARDIAN.<--

GAMES get delayed all the time; does anyone here ever get so frustrated they have to wait longer that they demand it be released free?

And some of those people already have said game(s) pre-ordered - which means they actually DID pay for it/them.

Has anyone here on PS3 paid for Dawnguard or Hearthfire? (see above GIF)

IN CONCLUSION! The only thing PS3 Skyrimers are entitled to is a plethora of patches and updates that restores Skyrim to the functionality it was always intended to maintain. No bullshit. Are we entitled to discounted or even FREE DLC?! No. If DLC comes to us, it will come in time, and we'll pay for it like everyone else - or won't, if you don't want to. It's not like they have the DLC completed, polished, and ready for distribution, but are hoarding it, rubbing their hands and say, "Good, good." No, it's not working. When it works/if it works, we'll get it. Until then, enjoy Skyrim for the fantastic game that it is, but only up until 7000 KBS

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Your examples of delays were delays for all platforms, not one platform while releasing on time for the others, so they don't really apply...

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Final Fantasy XIII was finished on PS3 months before the 360 version.

The game released exclusively on PS3 in Japan, but the American version was held back until the 360 version was complete for a simultaneous worldwide release.

Because their games have been so glitch and bug ridden, the community complained about every little they ran into. This made Bethesda repair every little thing gamers complained of instead of focusing on the main issues.

With each successive game, they've reduced the overall amount of problems, but it wasn't until they overhauled their engine (Wiping most of the typical problems with it) that they finally came face to face with the most major flaw of their engine, which has always been there (I ran into tough in both Fallouts).

They knew what it was for quite some time now, but they've been patching up all the other minor and immediate issues.

They have next to no choice but to eliminate this issue before putting out another game because the community may not tolerate it next time..for realz...

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I'm not concerned with the explanation. I just want to see functional games on the shelves. This goes especially for highly marketed games. Your game is too ambitious? Take it down a notch or two.. The PS3 has bad design? Delay it or don't release it at all..

Yes people gave Skyrim a hard time for minor bugs.. but people complain about minor bugs all the time. Nothing new here. If the dumb complaints confused Bethesda's priority list, I'm sorry but they're idiots. Anyway, that's beside the point. I'm not hating on Bethesda as much as I'm defending my rights as a consumer. That's the bottom line. That's me..

The only thing(s) PS3 owners of Skyrim are entitled to is a working game that they paid 60 schmackaroonies for. Are they entitled to free DLC because it hasn't come to them yet? No. Why no? Because NO. Look, pretty much every single game ever created has been delayed at some point. Bioshock Infinite has been delayed repeatedly, and don't even get me started on the purgatory that is THE LAST GUARDIAN.<--

GAMES get delayed all the time; does anyone here ever get so frustrated they have to wait longer that they demand it be released free?

And some of those people already have said game(s) pre-ordered - which means they actually DID pay for it/them.

Has anyone here on PS3 paid for Dawnguard or Hearthfire? (see above GIF)

IN CONCLUSION! The only thing PS3 Skyrimers are entitled to is a plethora of patches and updates that restores Skyrim to the functionality it was always intended to maintain. No bullshit. Are we entitled to discounted or even FREE DLC?! No. If DLC comes to us, it will come in time, and we'll pay for it like everyone else - or won't, if you don't want to. It's not like they have the DLC completed, polished, and ready for distribution, but are hoarding it, rubbing their hands and say, "Good, good." No, it's not working. When it works/if it works, we'll get it. Until then, enjoy Skyrim for the fantastic game that it is, but only up until 7000 KBS

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Your examples of delays were delays for all platforms, not one platform while releasing on time for the others, so they don't really apply...

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Final Fantasy XIII was finished on PS3 months before the 360 version.

The game released exclusively on PS3 in Japan, but the American version was held back until the 360 version was complete for a simultaneous worldwide release.

With a better example, what do you think...?

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That is an example of a publisher appropriately handling a delay... waiting to release them all at the same time (in the US). A congruent example would be if they released the PS3 version of FF13 in the US because it was ready and waited several months to release the 360 one.

Your examples of delays were delays for all platforms, not one platform while releasing on time for the others, so they don't really apply...

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Final Fantasy XIII was finished on PS3 months before the 360 version.

The game released exclusively on PS3 in Japan, but the American version was held back until the 360 version was complete for a simultaneous worldwide release.

With a better example, what do you think...?

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That is an example of a publisher appropriately handling a delay... waiting to release them all at the same time (in the US). A congruent example would be if they released the PS3 version of FF13 in the US because it was ready and waited several months to release the 360 one.

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But wouldn't that also be appropriate since the 360 version wasn't finished?

Why should the PS3 crowd have to wait when our product is already done? That's exactly what's happening here. The 360 product is done and they get to enjoy it while we wait for the dev to iron out issues with ours.

Should 360 players have to suffer indefinitely right along with us when the revenue from their content can help fix our problem...?

I didn't disagree with you, I said your examples didn't make sense for your argument. If you take some of the time you spent typing out this profanity filled complaint, you'd see that I don't think there is really anything they can do and never suggested them offering the DLC free or discounted. But I'm the immature one...