Who cares what their upside is, it's what they actually bring. Admittedly, JVR is currently showing a lot. I'm still convinced he never would've brought that out had he stayed here, because he just wouldn't get the same opportunity. So I'd rather have a 2nd pairing man than a guy that has the "offensive upside", but never shows it.

I'm not even sure how anyone could think that. How could you not care what their upside is when we're talking about young players? Every impact player in the came started out as a young player with "upside".