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Monday, May 30, 2011

emesene 2.11.5

So, developers have worked hard this month, and here we come with the new and shiny release: emesene 2.11.5!

look ma' i'm running the latest emesene version!

If you already tried/used the previous emesene-2 version (2.11.4), here's a small and readable changelog between the .4 release and this that tries to cover the tons of git commits we had this month:

- Experimental Qt4 gui (disabled by default: if you want to try it, run emesene with the -e main:qt4_main flag, and make sure to have python-qt4 around)
- Better support for Adium themes, including emoticon themes!
- Better working group chat
- Drag and drop support in chat window
- Ctrl+Tab support for switching tabs
- MSN groups chats support when using Adium themes
- Updated translations
- Lots of other bug fixes (so much we forgot about them? we fixed more than 100 user-reported issues!)

Thanks to all developers, translators, casual contributors, users, spammers, haters.
We hope our effort will be useful and appreciated, and that this new release will raise the interest in order to make the emesene ecosystem and community more powerful and capable of making the best instant messaging client you can think of!

p.s. unfortunately we haven't been able to have some fixes to the python-papyon library committed upstream, we recommend to stick with the 0.5.5 version and upgrade as soon as the 0.5.6 version comes out (we don't know when, unfortunately).

Is there any chances that 2.11.5 will be uploaded to the official Natty repositories? Since it's mostly a bugfix release..If not, will the official emesene PPA be updated with this version for natty?Thanks in advance!

Any WINDOWS users interested in the portable version, future development packages (2.11.6-devel), and a standalone uninstaller (should work on any previous emesene2) go to http://www.mediafire.com/emesene .

2.11.6-devel releases should be considered experimental and may have issues.

@fasix: we had an issue when copying packages, they picked up the wrong python version and now launchpad is refusing to rebuild them, we hope to solve this issue asap, by tomorrow i hope we can have the ppa fixed

Hey, if you're able to make a totally new interface (qt), would you be able to make a one window version too? Look at this post and I think you'll understand what I mean:http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/12/one-window-empathy-boy-would-it-simplify-my-life/

@cl0udI contacted fedora and OpenSUSE 3 weeks ago about packaging 2.11.4. Looks like fedora has put it on hold, probably because of the release of fedora 15. Suse on the other hand hasn't acknowledged my request at all.

Anyway, I made some packages for 2.11.5:Fedora 15 and later (made to official Fedora Guidelines): http://www.2shared.com/file/GaIgcBEW/emesene-2115-1fc15noarch.htmlOpenSUSE (latest release): http://www.2shared.com/file/wM158p7-/emesene-2115-1susenoarch.html

I'd like to join the project as a coder, however, (as of today,) I'm a beginner with Python. I want to tackle the issue of getting video calling (re?)implemented. Can someone point me in the right direction for starting?

@kyle: first see here http://blog.emesene.org/2011/04/emesene-development-continues.htmlthen, you need a windows computer with the latest wlm in a local lan (or non-NAT internet, so no virtual machines) with a webcam capable of sending to emesene. With emesene-git you should be able to see video, what needs to be fixed is sending our video; gstreamer skills are requested for making papyon/farsight/whatever's failing to get the video stream from v4l2 and sending to live messenger, the infrastructure (gui widgets) is quite already there

extending my last comment: once it works in a non-NATed environment, some effort must be made inside python-papyon to support these kind of network configurations (with i.e. upnp), but that's definitely another problem unrelated to the main one that needs to be discussed with the other upstream developers :)

@alex-pp: use whatever version or software you prefer, but please know emesene-2.11.5 is the stablest of the emesene family and the issue about nick/etc. not saving is a consequence of emesene-1.6.3 usage. As said many times before, just check Preferences-Live Messenger and follow the instructions. Ofcourse using emesene-1.6.3 again will break your user-profile another time :)

But I have a little problem here: I set my contact list sorted by group, and the list should be expanded. But by some groups the contact list are always rolled up, when I log in. Is there any way to solve this small inconvenient?

And sometimes, emesene just cannot rememer my settings...

Sorry for my poor English, if you couldn't understand what I mean, I'll try another way to explain it.

@Hiunn-hué: i assume it's because you're not closing emesene when closing your session; try closing gracefully the program through File-Quit once you do all the settings at least once and see if it works then

I don't know what did you do, but everything is shitty. The look is shitty, the bubbles are shitty, the personal smileys feature is shitty, everything is shitty. What you should do is come back on emesene 1. Seriously.

'Cause emesene does not always forget my settings (just sometimes), so I cannot tell if your Tip works. Anyway, I'll try to use "File-Quit" to close emesene every single time.

About the "rolled up contact list" ... I think I found the problem.

I have 8 groups on my contact list, only two of them alway keep rolled up, when I open emesene. I find out that, they both contain character such as ä, ö or ü in their name. So I change their name, and delete those characters. Then, the problem is gone.

In order to confirm, I put those characters back, and problem shows again.

before all, thanks for all the work you're doing on emesene2.I have only one question. Emesene1 was able to notify me about contacts apparently connecting to network in an offline status. Emesene2 is not able anymore to detect it, as far as verified it many times with friends. Probably that status is still intercepted but the new client discharge it before it triggers any notify's window. There is anything i could modify in order to get again the same behaviour? Any plan or request to put back that function on emesene2?thanks in advance

@Hiunn-hué: one time just for make it save setting should be enough :) about contacts with unusual letters, this is strange, groups shouldn't be affected by this..

@sturmanskie: iirc we're checking the previous status and discarding the notification if it doesn't meet certain requisites (e.g. offline to invisible is a no-no) and no, we don't have plans to change this behaviour (we want to be good citizens in the IM field preserving user privacy (?)) but you could easily browse the code and find where this checks are happening :)

@kyle: most of us don't even use msn :) as for video calls, apart from not being generally interested, they require a lot of knowledge of some stuff mainly developed by Collabora Inc. Using papyon as the msn library helps a lot, but there's lots behind it, we just plugged the api and hoped for the best

The new version is great! It solved some important bugs and works fine. I would develop some plugins if I could program. It would be awesome if somebody makes some conversation history plugin. That's an essential functionality in a messenger client.

Emesene 2.11.5 many times forget my setting like my name Michael and then i only see my e-mail adress other times my i am notified when someone are logging out of msn, have always adjust emesene så i dont get notified when someone leaves

"NOTE: IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH YOUR NICKNAME/DISPLAY PICTURE/PERSONAL MESSAGE NOT BEING REMEMBERED OR CORRECTLY RETRIEVED PLEASE FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE IN OPTIONS - PREFERENCES - LIVE MESSENGER AND RESTORE A CLEAN PROFILE WITH EMESENE CLOSED. THEN RESTART EMESENE AND IT WILL WORK."

Thanks Riccardo (c10ud) for helping me and thanks to syst3mfailur3 too, that link works on my emesene 2.11.5, I'm not sure if my contacts can see what I'm listenig but I can see and activate plugins on this release.