Romney to reach 1,144 Delegates in Texas:

Originally posted by jjf3rd77
If you can't show me an official link of any kind than you are talking air. Please show me one little link that talks about your numbers. Unless they
are not your made up numbers....

I have no idea why you are asking for a link. This has been posted in damn near every Ron Paul delegate count thread since it was developed. It has
even been linked, in comments made directly to you in your own threads, countless times.

This whole delegate argument has been done to death and somehow you seem to have missed it. I don't believe that to be true at all. I think you are
just willfully ignoring anything in opposition to your position.

Originally posted by bl4ke360
You have no idea what you're talking about, there could easily be a second round of voting if Romney doesn't get 1144 delegates in the first round,
which I've already explained to you but you didn't reply to my post, so I'll say it again. Nobody is forced to vote, which means Romney delegates
can simply not vote in the first round, so it doesn't matter how many delegates Romney has if they don't vote for him. And I know of plenty of Paul
supporters that are Romney delegates so expect to see this happen. Not only can delegates abstain from voting, the law states that delegates can vote
for whoever they want, and this is what happened in 2008 when a delegate was supposedly bound to his state to vote for Mccain, but chose to vote for
Romney instead. This was allowed, just as the same will be allowed for Ron Paul if you apply the law consistently.
It's pretty ironic that somebody who has no idea how the process works or what the rules are, makes a thread about this.

1. I didn't respond to your post because I had already debunked that map. Finding it unverifiable and offering a different independent source that
was not some random blogpost. Furthermore, I debunked the only link that it sent me to, talking about the Michigan primaries written by a bias ron
paul supporter!

2. Do you know how rare a brokered convention is???

3. NO, then let me put it in perspective for you. The last time the republicans went to their convention without knowing who their nominee is was in
1976! This battle was between Reagan and Ford. Ford won the first ballot. If Reagan could have somehow gotten a second voting round, he would have
won.

4. Still not getting the picture? Ok How about in 1924 during their democratic brokered convention. There was no clear front runner until the 108th
ballot in 16 days!

5. States control the delegates in the rare in case of a brokered convention. So, that being the case. Each state is not going to vote for the same
person. Look at in the democratic primary. Obama's main contenders are an inmate and a local attorney! In those states Ron Paul would lose in favor
to an inmate or attorney! Each state votes differently. There's no rule saying they have to vote for Ron Paul. Some are pledged and bound to already
to Mitt Romney, some are released after the first round, and some are released after the second. No brokered convention in history has ever made it to
the second round of voting. So for the RNC's rules to be completely wiped clean, you would have to START at minimum at the third round of voting!
Which I can guarantee you will never happen!

6. There is no guarantee that Ron Paul will be the nominee on the third round of voting! People like Chris Christie and Jeb Bush or Allen West will be
voted in as well. There is no telling what will happen.

7. Its incredibly naive to even think Ron Paul will win if a brokered convention happens. The only way Romney will chose to release his delegates is
if the party chooses somebody that is a. not the other candidates. b. somebody with his same values. The others are going to do the same. Just as Ron
Paul is wary of ever endorsing republican candidates for President. He won't endorse Romney so that Romney can take his delegates. Romney wont do the
same!

Its better to let it happen the normal and right way, because a brokered convention will be even more messy and more anarchy-like and more so-called
corruption filled than any other election in history. Trust me, you do not want a brokered convention. It will only hurt Ron Paul's chances, if he
has any left!

Originally posted by jjf3rd77
If you can't show me an official link of any kind than you are talking air. Please show me one little link that talks about your numbers. Unless they
are not your made up numbers....

I have no idea why you are asking for a link. This has been posted in damn near every Ron Paul delegate count thread since it was developed. It has
even been linked, in comments made directly to you in your own threads, countless times.

This whole delegate argument has been done to death and somehow you seem to have missed it. I don't believe that to be true at all. I think you are
just willfully ignoring anything in opposition to your position.

There is even a thread about this count under the title "REAL delegate count"

I use the greenpapers which are verified. This is only verified by Ron Paul supporters. and it doesn't link to how it has received its data. I have
very many simple questions about this map. That only Ron Paul supporters seem to be using...

He should reach the threshold next week, when voters go to the polls in Texas.

Assured of the party nod...

Argue what this means to you but you know it's not official until the convention.

You are hoping for a routine and uneventful Republican convention but you have your doubts that has any certainty.

There is no guarantee that Ron Paul will be the nominee on the third round of voting! People like Chris Christie and Jeb Bush or Allen West
will be voted in as well. There is no telling what will happen.

Yeah, it sounds like you're sitting on the edge of wetness.

Its better to let it happen the normal and right way, because a brokered convention will be even more messy and more anarchy-like and more
so-called corruption filled than any other election in history. Trust me, you do not want a brokered convention. It will only hurt Ron Paul's chances,
if he has any left!

Argue what this means to you but you know it's not official until the convention.

Laughable because if Romney doesn't win on the 29 he
will definitely win the nomination on June 5. Nevada, California, and South Dakota, and New Jersey will be in the drawing! Once he secures all the
1,144 delegates before the convention it doesn't matter. The convention only matters if he doesn't win any delegates in the next three primaries in
the last seven states. You fail there. thinking Ron Paul will take all of those delegates. Remember Romney only needs 60 delegates to win! Texas has
152 delegates up for grabs. To be legally bound. 3 soft delegates will be awarded at their convention next week. So that means. If Romney gets less
than half those delegates (which its likely he will get most if not all of them) Then he will win right there. Soo let's do simple math here. 152/2 is
76. Romney needs 60 to win. End of the line!

You are hoping for a routine and uneventful Republican convention but you have your doubts that has any certainty.

You purposely mis quoted me here. I said there will be a routine republican convention. The scenario I outlined was in the 1% chance that a brokered
convention does happen! Which is highly unlikely!

All the Paul supporters should be getting behind him to help spread a message of liberty, which is what Paul himself wants.

This claiming we are winning just feeds into the generalization of Paul supporters a crazies and doesnt help the movement at all.

How do you propose we "should be getting behind him" and "help the movement"? Vote for Romney or Obama?? No, thanks. I doubt that would help on
either count. To "help spread the message of liberty" should I tell all my friends and together we ask Romney pretty-please, or Obama?

I know, since Paul is still in the race and any alternative candidate, with the possible exception of Gary Johnson, would be counter-productive to
your recommendations and personally distasteful, why not let's just stay with our candidate of choice for the distance? For me that means through the
convention, to a third-party, or a write-in selection. I don't see many other options.

The OP still gives Paul 100 to 1 (1%). I'll take those odds. I am neither a corporatist, evangelical, nor authoritarian so even as a registered
Republican I see no sense in backing the GOP's manufactured favorite, nor the incumbant.

The OP still gives Paul 100 to 1 (1%). I'll take those odds. I am neither a corporatist, evangelical, nor authoritarian so even as a registered
Republican I see no sense in backing the GOP's manufactured favorite, nor the incumbant.

I never said there was a 1% chance that Ron Paul will win. I said that there is a 1% chance that a third voting round will ever take place during a
hypothetical scenario where we have a brokered convention. Which won't happen. So what's 1% of impossible?

Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Romney has no serious competition left in the race. He has been solely focusing his attention on Obama. And in a recent speech Obama actually called
Romney the candidate to beat. Those two are butting heads and Soon it will be official, with no chance of a brokered convention, like some were hoping
for.

On May 29 Mitt Romney will become the official Republican Nominee for the President of the United States!

Yep, I expect Romney to win in Texas by a landslide. I don't expect Ron Paul to do well in his own home state, not even his district. In the last two
presidential campaigns Ron Paul ran in, he only won one small county north of the state, he can't seem to convince even his own district voters.

This once again ia all BS as Ron Paul HAS obtained almost ALL the delegates so far. The delegates votes have been flipped in favor of Romney.
Minnesota was all Ron Paul but one delegate. I have a friend who IS a delegate and he is pissed that the media and the conspirators of "government"
are taking and flipping the delegates votes and stances. The media is perpetrating the lies and the people are believing it. Sad country we live in.
If Romney does somehow manage to win/run against Obamanation, he will lay down and let Obama win the CEO position of the corporate U.S. He IS NOT MY
president, he is the head of a corporation that I am not an employee of!! Wake up folks. I really don't care who wins as I don't vote and am not a
"resident" but a transient inhabitant, an American National, freeman on the land.

As a Texan, I would like to apologize for our state to the rest of the nation. Apparently, people here would rather support the douchebag...er I mean
Romney than a true man of the people Ron Paul. I for one WILL vote for Ron Paul whether his name is on the ballot or not...I'm writing it in. As for
the rest of the sheeple that support Romney....shame on you. No, seriously, shame on you, and may the blood of all the victims of future American wars
led by Romney should he become POTUS be on your hands.

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