Nobody cares about any of these characters besides Batman and Superman

Flops all around

Flash is sorta cool but Ezra Miller? Flop

I'm not that down on it yet; I think a lot will depend on how Batman v Superman turns out and if it can set the pace for the rest of the DCU; I didn't think Man of Steel was bad, but it wasn't great the way say Iron Man was for Marvel as a launching point.

Nobody cares about any of these characters besides Batman and Superman

I don't necessarily agree with this. Look at how Marvel turned a bunch of unknown characters into hugely popular films. The problem is with how Warner and DC are approaching their Cinematic Universe. It just seems very thrown together. I know I've hammered home how I feel about that to death in other threads about their upcoming films but I really feel like its true. Plus from the way it sounds most of these films are tentative and only are being made if the other films if the big hitters (Superman V. Batman: Dawn of Justice and probably the Justice League film) do well so it makes it seem like there isn't really a plan in mind but more just some scenarios that could play out depending how things go. It just feels really sloppy and I'm not very impressed especially when we see how well Marvel has done. Maybe its unfair to make comparisons but it really is hard to not do so when the competition has done what Warner/DC is trying to do so well.

Now that Arrow, The Flash, and to a lesser extent, Gotham, are all on the air as television shows, I really don't care what Warner's theatrical division does with DC's superheroes.

i care. i want to see more batman and superman movies. we'll never see those characters on tv in the near future.

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Nobody cares about any of these characters besides Batman and Superman

Flops all around

Flash is sorta cool but Ezra Miller? Flop

Nope:
-Bats/Supes not a Flop
-JL 1 and 2 not a Flop
-Wonder Wonder not a Flop...will do well with men and women
-Shazam, Cyborg ???
-Flash...PLEASE change that actor (wont flop, but no blockbuster)
-GL...bad rap from last movie, has a big hill to climb. JL movies have to re-make him so his solo movie will be a hit.

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Ayer's Suicide Squad is still in early development and the script is being worked on. But that is not stopping the filmmaker and the studio from making overtures for what is to be an A-list ensemble piece filled with colorful anti-heroes. Sources say that Will Smith, Margot Robbie and Tom Hardy also are fielding offers. Warners had no comment.

This. How anyone could not want an awesome DC Cinematic Universe is just too bizarre to believe.

I'll bite. While I wouldn't say an awesome DC cinematic universe wouldn't be awesome (if it was in fact awesome), I'd rather see great movies. Marvel's got the whole homogenized universe thing figured out, but the movies are all starting to run together. It's less about making a great film than it is about extending the story to the next installment. They really are the cinematic equivalent of comic books in that sense. I love 'em, but at this point we know exactly what they are.

I'd rather see DC take some chances with their properties. Hand their projects off to visionary directors. Focus on making ONE great movie. Take Darren Aronofsky for example. We've now come close to seeing two different comic book films from him. First he was attached to Batman: Year One, then he was supposed to do The Wolverine. He obviously has at least a cursory interest in superheroes. Give him another shot at Batman or give him something more obscure like, I don't know, Martian Manhunter. Let him go to town. Don't worry about making it conform to some sort of preexisting universe. Just let him make a great film. When it's over, move onto the next project and focus on making another great film. Maybe it's a Booster Gold/Blue Beetle buddy comedy or a family film starring Captain Marvel. Maybe it's even an Indiana Jones-esque period adventure with the Hawks. Who cares. Just do something new and different.

I think Marvel's "continuity" between films is wildly overrated, it is all held together by one or two key characters across the films. People seem to go wild if they throw in a 30-second, post-credits teaser, but they are generally less sophisticated than I like my movies. I don't want that happening to a series of DC films, which I suspect is what will happen. I'm just hoping that Batman and Superman work out together in Man of Steel 2.

Going off Google Images, that actor looks nothing like any Flash I've ever seen drawn, unless they plan to make a Goth version of Bart Allen as the primary choice.

A shared universe seems to have it's pros and cons; on one hand it feels like movies need to fit a certain tone so that audiences will buy that these characters all live in the same universe, but doing so could limit or restrict some of the more far out characters from fitting in. Personally, I've absolutely adored what Marvel has done so far and for me as a casual comic reader since I was young it's just about perfect. I think DC following that trend is a good thing (if they can actually do it right), especially after we just got a Batman where it was harder to buy a character like Superman swooping in at any time during the Dark Knight trilogy.

I guess the thing these days is to complain about Marvel being boring and stale, but with the last couple movies and the slate they have planned, I don't get that at all.

As for Flash, I googled Ezra Miller and now remember him from Perks of Being a Wallflower. Not a bad actor, but yeah... not right for Flash at all. Ugh.

I initially didn't think the actor they got for the TV show would be a good Flash, and he has turned out to be quite good.

I don't get the complaints about the MCU either. Sure, they're not all excellent, but none of them are outright bad. They're all at least entertaining popcorn flicks. What else do you expect from a COMIC BOOK movie? Quality on par with The Godfather? That's ridiculous. Movies can't all be like that. There's nothing wrong with popcorn flicks.

I don't get the complaints about the MCU either. Sure, they're not all excellent, but none of them are outright bad. They're all at least entertaining popcorn flicks. What else do you expect from a COMIC BOOK movie? Quality on par with The Godfather? That's ridiculous. Movies can't all be like that. There's nothing wrong with popcorn flicks.

This has nothing to do with popcorn flicks vs. prestige films or whatever. Like I said, I've enjoyed all of the MCU movies to varying degrees. Nobody said they have to be the Godfather (although the Godfather is pretty much a popcorn movie). My point is that after 9 or 10 MCU movies we know exactly what they are. Are they fun? Absolutely. Am I pumped for Avengers 2? I think so. Do I want to keep watching variations of the same theme over and over again for the next decade or two? I'm not so sure about that.

I think that in order to make a really great film, there needs to be a certain amount of creative freedom. At some point you need the movie equivalent of someone like a Grant Morrison or a Frank Miller to come in and blow-up the status quo. That's what was so disappointing about what happened with Ant Man. Will the movie we end up getting be good? Probably. Would I have rather seen Edgar Wright put his own spin on the genre? 100% yes. The last thing I want to see is DC/WB doing a sub-par imitation of the MCU. As much as I like comic books and comic book movies, between Marvel and DC how many are scheduled for the next 5 years? 20? I get the appeal. I'm a comic geek, but I'm also a movie fan. I'm at the point where I just want something new.

I still disagree with that Marvel assessment; I think Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy felt very different from the previous movies, and it seems like Doctor Strange might go a bit differently as well. I'm pretty excited with Marvel's slate because I feel like I don't know what to expect with their upcoming movies.

I still disagree with that Marvel assessment; I think Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy felt very different from the previous movies, and it seems like Doctor Strange might go a bit differently as well. I'm pretty excited with Marvel's slate because I feel like I don't know what to expect with their upcoming movies.

This.

And I also do NOT want Grant Morrison or Frank Miller writing these movies.

Morrison is the most overrated writer of the last decade. His work just screams, "Hey look at me. I am trying to be intelligent, but I am really just a convoluted mess." It reminds me of Hideo Kojima's Metal Gear video games.

Miller was great in the 70s and 80s, but he hasn't done anything good since. His recent stuff such as All-Star Batman is just completely atrocious. It's not even worth a 0/10. It should get negative points because it is that bad. It reminds me of that scene from Billy Madison, "Everyone in this room is now dumber..."

And I also do NOT want Grant Morrison or Frank Miller writing these movies.

Morrison is the most overrated writer of the last decade. His work just screams, "Hey look at me. I am trying to be intelligent, but I am really just a convoluted mess." It reminds me of Hideo Kojima's Metal Gear video games.

Miller was great in the 70s and 80s, but he hasn't done anything good since. His recent stuff such as All-Star Batman is just completely atrocious. It's not even worth a 0/10. It should get negative points because it is that bad. It reminds me of that scene from Billy Madison, "Everyone in this room is now dumber..."

Holy crap, don't take everything so literally. I'm not advocating that Grant Morrison or Frank Miller write these f'ing movies. I'm advocating that someone with a unique vision be given the creative freedom to make a movie that isn't bound by the rigid constrictions of a shared universe and inevitable sequels/crossovers. They did that with Nolan and it was a massive success.

As far as the Marvel movies are concerned, we'll have to agree to disagree. In my opinion they all have a similar look/feel/tone and pretty much exist purely as a means to bridge the gap to the next chapter. They're exactly like comic books in that way. They're fun, but once the credits roll, it's on to the next one. One of the reasons I really appreciated The Wolverine was that it at least made an attempt to stand apart from the previous X-Men movies and do it's own thing both in scale and in tone. Ultimately it seems like Fox got cold feet and wouldn't commit to that choice 100%, but there were glimmers of something different.

I'm pretty happy that Marvel/Disney doesn't control the X-Men's film rights, if for the sake of having a different vibe in those films. The one property Marvel does need to get back is the Fantastic Four, I have no doubt they could make it great.