Post by stargazer1682 on Mar 7, 2018 2:37:46 GMT

Not a bad episode, actually. I've always been a little ambivalent about Barry's perception of super speed just being everything else slowed down; because even though it makes sense, it also kind of detracts from the experience for any speedster. If that's all it amounted to, then everything a speedster does at super speed, for them, should be incredibly tedious and uneventful. Getting ready for work? No different than anyone else, you're putting your clothes on like normal, just no notices. Run across town and search a bunch of buildings? It's taken you hours, just sort of trotting at a brisk pace; you may not get tired, but it's taking time. Not to mention things that would suck to have to wait for at super speed. You can't shower, because the water doesn't come out any faster. You could maybe take a bath, but you'd have to let it fill up at normal speed first.

But this episode does appear to suggest that there's more to it, because even when he's slowed down, in "Flashtime," he and the others are still zipping around; Barry runs back and forth between the bomb and Star Labs a few times. There's lightning and no indication that he's slowing time more as he does this. And when Cisco asks if this is what it's like, Barry's answer is less definitive.

I kind of wish he had spent more time sped up. And it's not impossible, given the short sequence of him trying to figure things out, but I would have liked to have seen it stretch into relative days for Barry. Show some beard growth.

I like the sense of urgency, and the limit to how long a non-speedster can stand Flashtime.

Two things that bugged me as they explaired their opinions was, a) speedsters can open breaches, that's how Jesse got there and how she was going to get back. And b) time travel. The solution was fair, in my opinion, but come on, Barry isn't willing to go back isn't willing to go back a few minutes or just a day to avert the city from being nuked? Why?? And don't give me that bs about changing time changing people; we're talking about an insignificant amount of time, and more importantly, the difference between saving millions of people's lives, and letting them die. And how quickly they forget that Barry did exactly that when things went sideways the first time around with Vandal Savage. Never mind that an entire series, which now features The Flash's own Wally West, flouts changing history, even when they claim to protect itMore than that, split the difference between a breach and time travel, and open a wormhole to some far flung period in time, where it won't do any harm.

I kind of feel like this would have made a better cliffhanger, maybe season finale, with Barry disappearing at the end; and maybe have been a good lead in to Flashpoint...

“In the game of chess, you can never let your adversary see your pieces.”

Post by dazz on Mar 8, 2018 6:25:44 GMT

I honestly do not like this episode as it's one of those things that make no sense on the show, if a Speedster can enter FT in any instant how then can any Speedster be hit by any conventional means head on? in a nanosecond they can enter FT in which they can move 1000's of times faster than humanly possible so how do they get sucker punched ever?

Also how can they all exist in the same FT, Barry is easily 10x faster than either Jesse or Jay at their best when at his base level, last we saw Jesse can move at around 3000mph, and Jay is slower than Zoom who was slower than Tachyon Barry who could move at only 10,000mph, Barry baseline now cam run at over 100,000 mph and even exceed over 1 million mph if his feats during this season are an example.

Also FT fatigue made no sense with the Speedsters, they essentially only existed in FT for a few seconds which we see them moving at max speed for minutes at a time, hell Barry was moving running all day prior to the events of the episode with no strain, the only way it works is if FT is separate from simply running or doing things fast and it requires a far greater amount of resources & energy to exist in it, but they don't specify this FT was presented as them simply moving in superspeed, and why did no regular humans require extensive rest from FT fatigue? they don't have enhanced recuperative abilities like Speedsters except KF, but once FT ended none showed any sign of fatigue which made no sense.

It's an interesting episode concept that imo was shoddily executed, even the excuse of why they couldn't run the bomb to safety was idiotic, we have seen Flash's superspeed away with combusting objects in the past and using superspeed never sped up the detonation so for it to do so now is bullshit...stupid episode imo.