Tom Sunic interviews author and retired politician Bob Whitaker about his take on the semantics of ‘political correctness,’ ‘free speech,’ ‘hate speech,’ the First Amendment, and his former role in the Reagan administration. Do not miss it!

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Whitaker is 100% right. We should hammer this genocide point constantly.

george wells on
August 13th, 2009 5:10 pm

Program was just too short. I would like to understand better the reasoning behind the strategy of discussing genocide as opposed to other strategies.

johnUK on
August 13th, 2009 5:56 pm

People would laugh of the genocide remark. It would be better to improve our own national birth rate so there is no excuse to import foreigners.

Whitakers talk about PC and immigration just blaming it on unidentifiable people like liberals or companies is part of the problem that it’s just a political psyche and culture that there is no specific group of people with an agenda you can pin it down to.

David Duke and Kevin MacDonald clearly show who is behind the immigration issue and with there own writings there agenda behind it historical and the specific people who US immigration laws the Jewish community.

The similarities between Communism and PC in the US is because Jews created and ran both systems and dominate US academia and the media just like they did in the USSR until 1968.

george wells on
August 13th, 2009 6:19 pm

I personally feel better talking to others about the gd jews but how effective has that been for me? I really have not had measurable results.

With Whitaker, how can you argue with success? He is a strategist with proven results, so what he says should not be dismissed lightly.

If you wanted to destroy a dam, all you need is one tiny tiny hole and then nature does the rest. Maybe white genocide is that tiny tiny little hole, that one idea that is ready to rise to the top, that can bring the whole structure down.

Bill on
August 13th, 2009 6:31 pm

“People would laugh of the genocide remark. It would be better to improve our own national birth rate so there is no excuse to import foreigners.”

They might laugh at first, but the facts are so clear that laughing would stop. There’s really no denying what’s happening. Even the dullest among us can understand the basic math of genocide. Also it cuts through all the economic side arguments. For someone to support the status quo means they must be in favor of white genocide. Everyone must be forced to go on the record as being either for or opposed. When they admit they’re in favor of white genocide, then at least we identified the enemy in no uncertain terms.

But they would also go along with the rationale the number of white people would remain the same regardless of how many immigrants come to the country.

Immigrants aren’t actually killing millions of people.

You could make argument of ethnic cleansing or what you call “white flight”.

You could use genocide with abortion I don’t know the numbers since WW2 of how many abortions there have been in the US but I would imagine it is over a million.

Bill on
August 14th, 2009 1:05 pm

“But they would also go along with the rationale the number of white people would remain the same regardless of how many immigrants come to the country.”

No, because integration and assimilation invariably equals genocide. Its like Whittaker says: if someone demanded that only blacks countries be inundated with non-black immigrants, nobody would deny that the eventual result would be the elimination of blacks. No black would be questioned let alone condemned for opposing such a situation.

johnUK on
August 14th, 2009 3:04 pm

@Bill

But they would bring up Europeans colonial past in Africa where white settlers became a powerful minority and ruling class unlike settlers to the US.

The same can’t be said of immigrants to Europe and the US.

And immigration is not a serious issue in political debate because it is white people that are behind the immigration issue who draft the laws to let them come into the country. So the rationale is why they would support immigration knowing it would be disastrous for the country and there own people.

Bill on
August 14th, 2009 3:52 pm

“David Duke and Kevin MacDonald clearly show who is behind the immigration issue and with there own writings there agenda behind it historical and the specific people who US immigration laws the Jewish community.”

The Jews aren’t the only ones behind it. The big liberal foundations like Ford, MacArthur, and Rockefeller, pour literally tens of millions of dollars into the pro-immigration movement. Then you have businessmen who want cheap labor. Both of these groups are predominantly non-Jews.

I’m the last person to defend Jews, but I’m not willing to let the white traitors go unnoticed. Hardly anyone talks about these damned, rotten foundations and the tremendous damage they do.

“But they would bring up Europeans colonial past in Africa where white settlers became a powerful minority and ruling class unlike settlers to the US.”

But those whites in Africa were a relatively small number and didn’t threaten overwhelm the black population racially. As everyone knows, the whites segregated themselves and avoided intermarriage. Just compare the black population before whites arrived and afterward – the number of blacks increased substantially. Hardly a genocide.

Mark on
August 14th, 2009 7:28 pm

He’s right, it will eventually lead to genocide.

The video below elucidates the point, although its context is religious, what we’re really talking about here is the displacement and eventual replacement of native whites with non-whites.

“The Jews aren’t the only ones behind it. The big liberal foundations like Ford, MacArthur, and Rockefeller, pour literally tens of millions of dollars into the pro-immigration movement. Then you have businessmen who want cheap labor. Both of these groups are predominantly non-Jews.”

I doubt that the foundations are WASP controlled institutions. I doubt that the businessmen that who want cheap labor are primarily non-jew. There are alot of jews presenting themselves as white that are not white.

As a race they are very skillful at shifting guilt from themselves to others. I’ve met enough jews to know the difference between a good jew and a bad jew is just not enough opportunity to hurt a large enough group of people. Good jews (they are heavily invested in promoting this concept) have the same attitudes as their brethren they just have not figured out a way to leave their mark effectively upon us.

I believe there is alot of wisdom in the words (referring to the tax exempt foundations and businessmen) of Tom Metzger, that you have to assume they are jews unless proven otherwise.

Jesus said the same thing when he said, “by there fruits ye shall know them.”

If people act against the white race by promoting genocide then they are enemies. Who is the greatest enemy of all? The jewish people!

But these companies are usually affiliated with the Rothschilds like Andrew Carnegie with there affiliated foundations to play ball in an economic system Jews created and a culture they promote though there control of the mass media.

And it is Jewish groups that created immigrant groups like La Raza and help organise and hold pro-immigration rallies.

You’re right though in that it is the mass public s own fault they don’t make it a senior issue and voted for McCain as presidential candidate the biggest advocate for mass immigration.

Off topic but Ted Pike said that Jacob Schiff was a member of B’nai B’rith is this true?

I’ve heard that B’nai B’rith was originally a masonic offshoot Jewish advocacy group does any one have any info on this?

“In 1917, international Jewish supremacist organization B’nai B’rith masterminded the Bolshevik revolution. The czar was overthrown and Russia was submerged in Communist totalitarianism. The Bolsheviks were financed by B’nai B’rith insider Jacob Schiff, head of Kuhn and Loeb Bank (now Chase Manhattan), along with affiliated Jewish banking houses, the European Rothschilds and Warburgs.”

Does Sunic read these posts because I was going to ask him a question about Yugoslavia which I remember him saying before he had affiliations with Tudjman at some diplomatic level?

Bill on
August 15th, 2009 8:26 pm

“But these companies are usually affiliated with the Rothschilds like Andrew Carnegie with there affiliated foundations to play ball in an economic system Jews created and a culture they promote though there control of the mass media.”

James, you’re casting about from one thing to another. First it was claimed that the foundations I mentioned were run by Jews. So I posted the links from the foundations’ websites showing that Jews are certainly there on some of the boards, but there’s far more non-Jews in positions of authority, especially on the MacArthur Foundation which is probably the most anti-white of them all. Now you’re claiming that the Rothschilds are actually running them. OK, show me the proof of this. The truth is these foundations operate via their investments which provide the foundations’ operating capital. Lord knows, Henry Ford wouldn’t have ever created the Ford Foundation if he had known what it would eventually turn into.

What I would like to know is why are you so determined to protect these white traitors or even to deny they exist?

Tom Sunic on
August 16th, 2009 3:13 am

To James et al,
When time available I sometimes read the posts – some are good..

“Does Sunic read these posts because I was going to ask him a question about Yugoslavia which I remember him saying before he had affiliations with Tudjman at some diplomatic level?”

I find the Yugoslavia example interesting as the only real differential between the three parties other then some historical grievances was religion Croat Catholic, Serb Orthodox and Bosnian Muslim.

Interesting how Bosnian Serbs identify themselves more with foreign Jihadists than there ethnic Serb or Croat cousin.

Be good if you did a show of what you thought the conditions and circumstances that lead to conflict not just in Yugoslavia but other countries soon after the fall of the USSR Moldovia, Armenia-Azerbaijan, Russia’s South North Ossetia-Ingushetia, Tajikistan, Georgia South Ossetia and Abkhazia. I think that’s all of them.

george wells on
August 17th, 2009 6:12 pm

Bill,

Its always hard to tell if the dog wags the tail or if the tail wags the dog. There are advocates on both sides of this.

A lot, maybe most, of the jewish actors/actresses/others of influence in Hollywood have gentile names and have been interbred to the both where its hard to see their jewishness. Are they then gentiles? Do gentiles then control Hollywood or maybe the arabs as Alex Jones would say?

B’nai B’rith was formed by Henry Jones (a good gentile name) in 1843. Is it then a gentile organization because it was formed by a man with a gentile name?

If someone was to say that criminals have too many guns, the solution could be to attack the guns and/or attack the criminals. White traitors are tools of the jewish criminals and probably psychopaths in their own right.

I don’t believe white traitors are the basic cause but more of the effect of jewish criminals that create the conditions in which white traitors develop and thrive. Jews lift a lot of ordinary white sociopaths to places of power as a sort of social shield so jews are not blamed as they should be. Jews make it appear that the problems they created are due to basic human nature and so a lot of people throw their hands up and are ineffective in dealing with the jewish problem.

Bill on
August 17th, 2009 6:43 pm

“Its always hard to tell if the dog wags the tail or if the tail wags the dog. There are advocates on both sides of this.”

George, let me put it this way. The Jews are there and as a group they’ve always been committed to our destruction. That’s a given and I’m not arguing against that, but the Jews only succeed because we allow them. OTOH, the white traitors are just that – traitors. The Jews can’t be accused of being traitors because they have no loyalty to us other than empty platitudes that all intelligent people understood were just words. The fact that these Jews are there and actively engaged against us in no way changes the reality that we have innumerable white traitors who are fully committed, whether out of stupidity or evilness, to the destruction of their own race and civilization. In my mind, this makes then far more guilty than any Jew.

james on
August 18th, 2009 5:46 pm

I e-mailed Sunic at his email address to ask him to ask his guest Dr. E. Michael Jones is Spartacus was Jewish revolutionary leading a Jewish revolt against Rome as Marx and the Communists referenced him like the Spartacus League and Spartacus revolt in Germany as well as Churchill in his famous Zionism vs Bolshevism article.

I only found out yesterday that Jones would be his guest so I e-mailed him this morning so I am probably to late for him to read the e-mail I sent him.

Following Kaufmann’s comment Kevin MacDonald responds in “I Still Think It Was Murder!” (http://www.vdare.com/misc/090812_kaufmann.htm) with “However, I place more emphasis on Jewish influence as a necessary (not a sufficient) condition for the collapse of Anglo-America.”

Kaufmann and MacDonald are both right and wrong. It is not an either/or situation. WASP America is dead by “doctor assisted euthanasia”. It was dying by self-inflicted means (suicide) when along came the “doctor” to both assist and speed up the process (murder). I would put it this way, “Anglo-Saxon America has neither committed suicide nor has it been murdered but rather it has been subject over several generations to an overriding dynamic of cultural genocide (ethnicide).”

Kaufmann emphasizes the internal dimension of the process of cultural death and although MacDonald acknowledges both the internal and external factors in the demise of WASP America he places the emphasis on the external factor, the Jewish factor.

The United States are dealing with a long historical process. The emphasis at the present moment must be on the internal factor, the WASP factor. Kaufmann emphasizes the internal factor and appears to diminish or disregard the external factor but Kaufmann’s position is an academic position. He may or may not have an activist position but it is an academic position that he articulates.

MacDonald’s opposing position is also an academic position but with an activist patina. He does not recognize the dynamic class nature of the American dilemma, or for that matter, the narrower European-American dilemma. The situation is different today in the first decade of the twenty-first century from what it was in the nineteenth and well into the twentieth centuries. The vital interests then of the WASP elites and of the WASP lower classes fairly coincided. Today they don’t.

American Jews now dominate. The formerly dominant WASP elites are in the subordinate position of shabbos goyim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabbos_goy). They are charged with maintaining the WASP status quo in certain important socio-cultural and political arenas but also charged with carrying out other social, cultural, political, economic and monetary policies that favor the interests of the Judeo-WASP oligarchy at the expense of the American people as a whole and of European Americans in particular, policies designed to favor the global interests of world Zionism.

White Nationalism may aspire to be the successor voice of the disenfranchised WASP lower classes by replacing the old now silenced voice of the Anglo-Saxon elites who have capitulated to the superior force of Jewish-American nationalism (Zionism in an American context) but it is failing to do so.

America is no longer the WASP America that it once was. The old WASP America is dead. It cannot be resurrected although it may still be transformed. The interests of elite WASPS and of the WASP lower classes no longer coincide. Both Kaufmann and MacDonald agree that whether by suicide, murder or a combination of the two, old WASP America is dead and finished. America is now a divided America, a schizophrenic America, a European America on the one hand and a politically correct, multi-cultural America on the other hand.

If White Nationalism is to speak for the WASP lower classes in must do so with the recognition that WASPs are numerically only a small part of European America although an important and essential part. European America has arisen over time out of old “White” America but it charts its own course, creates its own history and culture, and practices its own politics.

If White Nationalism is to have a future it must transform itself to be a voice for all European Americans and not just a voice from the past for today’s beleaguered and outclassed WASP and WASPish Americans.

White Nationalism may speak for the WASP lower classes but it does so poorly. It’s voice must be transformed in favor of a White Nationalist voice that speaks for all European Americans. It must generate a European-American voice or remain on the sidelines. And moreover, the Other America, the non-European, multi-cultural America, is here to stay and it, too, must be dealt with realistically and effectively.

The ascension of a non-White, non-Black, self-described “person of color”, Judge Sonia Sotomayor, a Puerto Rican Latina and sometime Hispanic, to the position of Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, marks the final death throe of WASP America. The unreconstructed “divine” principle of WASP Manifest Destiny has bit the dust.

The modern European-American vision is not the vision of a Melting Pot assimilation into a nineteenth century WASP America. The vision is that of an America under a new socio-cultural and political dynamic where European Americans and non-European Americans can live together in peace, united individually as first-class if not yet sovereign citizens, under a European-American ethno-racial group cosmopolitanism consistent with but transcending the parochial and traditional WASP ethno-racial cosmopolitanism of selfish “frontier” individualism and an egalitarianism reserved “for Whites only”.

The thread started out with an extended discussion on the subject of genocide based on one sentence by Bob Whitaker during the Sunic talk show. The discussion then veered off into immigration, treason and what have you. My comment addresses the issue of ethnicide or cultural genocide and the analogous subjects of suicide, murder and euthanasia. So what is on or off topic? I would say it is fairly arbitrary.

Also when I first posted only the web link to my comment the post didn’t show up. I then posted it again and again it didn’t show up. So then I posted the entire comment and it was immediately published. When I looked later the initial post had been published and in the right time order. So what happened?

Luis

george wells on
August 19th, 2009 7:07 pm

Luis,

You are gloating again, which tells us alot about you! Why don’t you make your points more simple for us whites, so we don’t need to tax our brains to find an alternate reality by which we can actual make contact with that “superb” mind of yours.

Its a little too taxing for me.

It probably feels good to you to express your ideas but its wasted. Find a good anti-racist site where you can be appreciated.

george wells on
August 19th, 2009 7:38 pm

Bill,

Jews are traitors in the sense that they accept citizenship and then undermine the country that they have committed themselves to.

Well, as far as white traitors go, we are all traitors to a certain extent. I just have to open my wallet and see the federal reserve notes, credit cards, and licenses to prove the point I am making. Few are able to get out of the system so are in effect building it up. My wallet probably does not look much different than anyone elses eventhough I have made many efforts to go underground economically and resist authority in various ways.

As long as jews hold economic and political power, whites will seek the rewards held out to them. Economic collapse can help because loyalty to the jewish economic system is very thin. When they can’t deliver the goods, those white traitors will look for other options.

Hard times are ahead of us and can be good for us because white people will have to break down into small groups and learn once again to work together and survive together. Small group community is in our close future. When that happens the white traitors will have much less power and will probably join us and become our best contributors. Sociopaths always seem to survive- they must have something we need or want.

Personally I would like to see them beaten to a bloody pulp and duly rewarded for their deeds.

@Luis Magno: Okay. We have a post on KMac’s Kaufmann review so I initially thought you posted your comment, which is all about KMac/Kaufmann, on the wrong post. On closer look, I can see now that the discussion evolved. No worries.

As far as why comments don’t always immediately appear: We have a spam filter that sometimes unfortunately catches good comments. I try to check the filter at least twice a day. Please be patient.