Apple Tried To Buy Palm Before HP Won The Bidding War -- And RIM Completely Blew The Dealhttp://www.businessinsider.com/apple-rim-google-hp-palm-2010-7/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Thu, 22 Feb 2018 00:17:29 -0500Dan Frommerhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d364809cadcbb3c4a0e0000TomasTue, 18 Jan 2011 21:10:17 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d364809cadcbb3c4a0e0000
HP was a better fit. <b style="position:absolute;left:1px;top:-2px;width:2px;height:3px;overflow:hidden;"><a href=http://www.example01.info/navigation.php>live jasmine</a></b>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4cffc2ed49e2aeb74c070000money4all2010Wed, 08 Dec 2010 12:39:57 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4cffc2ed49e2aeb74c070000
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Palm and HP would be the best pair and can break all previous records in this world of technology. It all depends on HP that how they are going to utilize palm. All we can do is wait and watch. The article is full of knowledge.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c437b137f8b9a9a42110200sent2nullSun, 18 Jul 2010 18:07:14 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c437b137f8b9a9a42110200
Why does it matter Dan, in the end HP is going no where with any of it's Palm based pads and phones (why am I so sure?)...Android is already king (check and mate), every one else (including Apple) is still suffering from cognitive dissonance. As their ships go down they are playing the violin.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c40f3937f8b9a5210fc0300MrPalmerIfYoureNastyFri, 16 Jul 2010 20:04:35 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c40f3937f8b9a5210fc0300
That about sums it up right there.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c406f857f8b9af104e90600melgrossFri, 16 Jul 2010 10:41:09 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c406f857f8b9af104e90600
It really isn't better. Tech writers like it, but the public doesn't. It's confusing, and difficult to learn. It doesn't have the "obviousness" that iOS has and that, to a certain extent, Android copied.
I read a lot about it when if first came out. Still, when I borrowed one for a couple of days, I found it annoying to use. I can see people walking into a phone store, picking one up, and without having any success in doing anything with it, moving on to the next phone very quickly.
Hp will have to deal with that problem if they expect users to move to it with their tablets and continued phone operations. Though from conflicting statements from various people, it's possible that HP will be de-emphasizing phones in the future.
I thought it would have been a good idea for Apple to have bought it. Of all the companies listed here, they could afford it the most. By having the patents that Palm added to their own store, they would pretty much control the patent process in the cell industry, and possibly in the tablet space as well. But the reluctance of Apple to purchase companies at numbers approaching a billion dollars is likely what prevented them from doing the deal. I wonder how this will affect them going forwards.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c405bab7f8b9a5217610000DuhFri, 16 Jul 2010 09:16:27 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c405bab7f8b9a5217610000
It was so superior that it confused end users and sold few devices. Yes, the best mobile os platform. Spoken like a true geek. Truth is that it gave the most flexibility to the home brew crowd, but that isn't as much value to the majority of people. Be careful confusing better for you with being better for most.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c40446e7f8b9add712e0200Chethan KashyapFri, 16 Jul 2010 07:37:18 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c40446e7f8b9add712e0200
As most tech-savvy people had expected, I was too sure of Apple or RIM clinching the deal. But, the unexpected happened. HP acquired Palm. This is the most astounding move by the worlds No.1 PC manufacturer. All guns blazing for HP. Good going people, congrats.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c401b347f8b9acb0e400000MichaelVFri, 16 Jul 2010 04:41:24 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c401b347f8b9acb0e400000
In end of 2009 RIM announced $1.2 billion share buy back program to boost the stock price. This same amount could get them Palm and WebOS.... Raises some questions about RIM strategy....http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c4019127f8b9a18729c0500MichaelVFri, 16 Jul 2010 04:32:18 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c4019127f8b9a18729c0500
This post from Nov 2009 predicted 6 months ahead that Palm will tank and RIM would be very interested in acquiring Palm:
http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2009/11/who-can-save-palm/
This Apr 2010 follow-up post shows why HP put few billions down the shredder:
http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2010/04/palm-1-2b-down-the-shredder/http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3ff0db7f8b9ac36b560300krypticFri, 16 Jul 2010 01:40:43 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3ff0db7f8b9ac36b560300
Very harsh, considering it is a much better mobile OS platform than either Android or Apple's iOS.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3fe1837f8b9ae063670400apetraFri, 16 Jul 2010 00:35:15 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3fe1837f8b9ae063670400
I blame Carly Fiorina.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3fbe5d7f8b9ad964f70600STORYBURNcomThu, 15 Jul 2010 22:05:17 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3fbe5d7f8b9ad964f70600
RIM is the next Nokiahttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3fb2d57f8b9a2264240000JonHolsteinThu, 15 Jul 2010 21:16:05 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3fb2d57f8b9a2264240000
Symbian is the market leader OS.
And with the upcomng MeeGo, the worlds most powerfull mobile OS.
MeeGo is a better fit for Tablets than WebOS.
So HP is a better partner. They will probably use WebOS, both to get a better touchinterface on top of Windows. And perhaps even run it as a quick boot os on windows touchscreen models.
If nokia would have bought Palm, they would have had to plunge out a whole lot of money, for something that would not make much sense.
They have symbian for lower end smartphones... ones that can sell millions and millions in developing coutries, thanks to the low hardware specs. And sell millions and millions in non touchscreen formfactors. So they would still keep symbian.
For higher end mobiles, or rather mobile computes as they will be they have MeeGo, a full computer OS.
There is a gap between those two, but symbian will be launched in different reincanations, till they filled that gap. Having a third OS, would make things more difficult, sure, for a few years, it perhaps would have made some sense, but in the end, it would be to expensive. And WebOS would be thrown out, as Symbian and MeeGo are a better match when your trying to fill a whole portfolio.
So in reality, Nokia was probably only looking to get their hands on some patents. And WebOS, would probably have been left to die.
HP and lenovo was two of my favorites.
LG also, as theybadly need a smarter OS for mor standard phones, but WebOS, requires a bit too much out of the hardware... Lets see what they can come up with instead. Samsung probably ripped of the LG KE850 (shown in september 2006 in a design contest, later known also as Prada, and perhaps that Prada brand was the reason for it not beiing introduced properly for so long time) for their first touchscreen phone. Perhpas LG will rip samsung Bada off, lets see.
But Qualcomm was my all time favourite, and it perhaps wasnt on the list att all. but that would have been the best one.
They do have their own semi-smartphone OS. But its not very good. And as a chip manufactor, they have good realtions with many companies... we would have seen a lot of others make WebOS products (HTC one of them, which was many techbloggers favorites. but it would have been better if Qualcomm carried the OS, and HTC just made the devices). Andsince they deliver components for tablets as well, that would have been on board. And they have been visioning smartbooks with touchscreens, gps and so on for a while, at least since early last year.. .yeah, before iPad that is.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3fa04b7f8b9a52602f0900WilliamThu, 15 Jul 2010 19:56:59 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3fa04b7f8b9a52602f0900
Sorry. That was meant to be a reply for "freddy bee".http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f9fde7f8b9aae60070600WilliamThu, 15 Jul 2010 19:55:10 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f9fde7f8b9aae60070600
Why least interesting? It has been re-tooled from the ground up ... and is a cleaner (in many ways) porting play from standard Linux than Android would be... What are your specific issues?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f7a877f8b9ab054c20300Khalid J HoseinThu, 15 Jul 2010 17:15:50 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f7a877f8b9ab054c20300
I still think this was a good buy for HP. @Tantrum is right - they'll be able to take and use webOS in more ways than the other possible suitors. Google probably would not have used webOS (they have Android), or at most sucked in the best parts to Android. They also probably don't want to be in the phone hardware business.
As for Apple, the 'patent theory' seems right, especially with NTP now going after the rest of the big phone makers, after taking a nice bite out of RIM.
I'm sure too that HP was looking for a upgrade of sorts for their iPAQs (remember those?). But as with all such things, time will tell if this works out for HP.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f79967f8b9a7d5bd80000Brian S HallThu, 15 Jul 2010 17:11:50 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f79967f8b9a7d5bd80000
I think this is a really good article. But agree with the commenter. Probably RIM got a closer look at Palm's patents, product line-up and got under the hood and saw that it wasnt worth $1 billion and it would just slow down RIM's Blackberry 6 efforts. Seems like HP was the right fit all around.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f794e7f8b9ac653b20300SevenfeetThu, 15 Jul 2010 17:10:38 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f794e7f8b9ac653b20300
Finally, I would think that Nokia would have the greatest reason of all to acquire Palm. Symbian isn't considered a leading smartphone OS by anyone and a portfolio of WebOS phones could have really changed the balance of power in the smartphone game, especially outside of the US. They certainly could have delivered a WebOS tablet. And it might have made the whole Apple vs. Nokia legal battle over IP a lot more interesting.
But they didn't seem to play at all, which is mystifying.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f77fb7f8b9ad7744c0000SevenfeetThu, 15 Jul 2010 17:04:54 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f77fb7f8b9ad7744c0000
It sounds like Apple was only interested in IP. I cant believe they would have ever continued WebOS past supporting existing users. There was little that Palm had to offer that would help Apple sell more iPhones. Apple's bid reflected those priorities, mainly saving themselves patent fees. As for technology that Palm had that Apple may have wanted, they did hire the manager who designed Palm's notification manager, which was a much cheaper play for them, even if they have to pay IP fees to HP.
RIM could have really used WebOS and could have made it the foundation of a future Blackberry OS. RIM isn't known for their OS leadership and WebOS could have put them back in the game (much like Apple buying NeXT in 1996).http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f73827f8b9acf58150100TantrumThu, 15 Jul 2010 16:45:54 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f73827f8b9acf58150100
Most people have no idea that HP is in the top 3 in almost every solution class it plays in. HP can leverage webOS in broader ways than any other company. webOS and Windows aren't mutually exclusive on a device. This is a smart platform that can be leveraged to run smarter printers (HP #1), Notebooks and Desktops (HP #1), Rack Servers and Blades ( HP #1), Storage (HP #2), Enterprise IT Services (HP #2) and Networking (HP #2).
HP is growing by the size of a large corporation each year.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f6d5a7f8b9a7f6fa10000coolrepublicaThu, 15 Jul 2010 16:19:38 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f6d5a7f8b9a7f6fa10000
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Ok about Palm.
It would have been fun if Google got them.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f64947f8b9af450c20000freddy beeThu, 15 Jul 2010 15:42:11 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f64947f8b9af450c20000
all regular SAI readers will agree with this post. wish i coudl give it a thumbs-up.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f646d7f8b9a7e50a00300freddy beeThu, 15 Jul 2010 15:41:31 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f646d7f8b9a7e50a00300
yeah, HP 'WON' here. The won the ability to drop north of a BILLION dollars for the least interesting Operating System on the planet.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f64457f8b9ab66a900600Ted T.Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:40:51 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f64457f8b9ab66a900600
By the time RIM would have managed to integrate WebOS to its own offerings (and backend infrastructure) any competitive advantage would be lost. RIM may be screwed without WebOS, but likely they would have been screwed with it, as well.
HP was a better fit, because on their own they had nothing, so they can deploy WebOS products much more quickly with no worries about compatibility and/or integration.
Apple would have killed WebOS and just kept patents/some people so in a sense even they would have been a better fit than RIM, though winding down Palm's business would have been an unnecessary pain. I don't believe the "Apple even seemed committed to funding Palm's operations, perhaps to challenge RIM's dominance in the keyboarded segment of the smartphone industry," stuff for a second.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f63a27f8b9a9b50310000dan appleThu, 15 Jul 2010 15:37:54 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4c3f63a27f8b9a9b50310000
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