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Eh, Well niteshift, Since you posted you message I wrote a short story I am going to submit as soon as my copyright registration comes back. No hurry as it is a good basic story. No, I am not a writer as such. This one just came to me.

Someday, Ray, I'm gonna cut you in half like a redwood and count the rings just to figure out exactly how old you are!

Good on you for honoring that "Short Story Muse" who led you a tad outside your comfort zone!!!!

Looking forward to reading it...Don't forget to let us know where to find it!

Well nite, There are all kinds of posts of producers looking for scripts! And after 2 and 1/2 months my registration still has not come back. All I can say is there must be a lot more people writing scripts than songs! Geronimo!

And Would You Believe It, Still haven't seen that Registration! I may, (or may not) have the next great story! Um sorry but it is too long to post here. But! The day ain't over yet! Um, sorry nite but I may be older than trees! I did get my cancelled check back so it is in the works. The weather in Washington has been a bit nasty so those folks probably ain't a working too hard!

I am looking to do something with a music video narrative that follows a concept.I have been doing ads quite a bit towards that and have been using Adobe Elements to where I have not been hooked to a cloud, looking at video making and its many facets.How much does amazon or other sites require to be hooked to a cloud?Everything is so much to be shared nowadays. Do the members do anything standalone anymore? Not hooked in to the cloud?

The "cloud" is not really important re creativity or getting your ideas together.

What I find, that it's simply a storage space, and a space where you can "hire" software rather than own it.

That, together with software what allows you to work on a collaborative project with others, gives a focal point where computing power can be utilised.

Example ; I'm currently working on a 20 second 3d mock up where I want the camera to "walk" through the scene. If my own computer did it, the rendering would take 47 hours. If I use the cloud and a private provider, that same rendering takes about 20 minutes using "quote" a minimum of 3000 cpu's for about $10.

So it's about using money and time wisely, in regard to how much time do you have, and what is most cost effective.

There is no big drama about the cloud. It's simply just storing things on a bigger server, with far greater computing power, and being able to pay for hireage of a computer programme ( should you require it ) rather than owning the programme, and using that computing power to generate your finalised result. Simply something you cannot do with the best of domestic computers.

Stand alone ? That's fine, and for music, if you're not doing it professionally, most home computers will render music only in a relatively small amount of time.

That has given me quite a bit to think about.My instructor informed me about Adobe Essentials but mentioned the time factor too.I am entering another quarter in the fall and could probably deal with the time.But I am going to be looking at internships.So maybe I will eventually have to get connected to the cloud to compete with ads.

Hey All, I thought I might put up a few pages of script and the song that accompanies it. This one was generously donated to the cause by Scott Campbell and Bob Pickens. Since Trigger St seems to have gone belly up, Amazon is a no show and filmmakers.com just seem to want to run "contests", I thought heck, why not ? The intent, since it's a film with music, is to bury music within the script so the reader can have a listen and a sing along as they are reading. Kinda like those musical books for kids, but for adults like ..... um, interns which flick through the dialogue and comment that "it's just not what we're looking for at the moment" Please excuse the formatting, it won't correct. Opening scenes overlayed with credits......

Um, Well, The story is finished, copyright registration came back. Took about 8 months. Tried a couple of Publisher's for hire. They want about $4200.00 or so. Sorry I ain't paying to publish the story. I looked at another site where they ask for info and then find recommendations for you, basically put up Sites you can click on. Well I recognized a couple of them already so passed. However somehow my info got transferred to a new Pay Publisher I didn't ask for. And wouldn't you know it I got a call from them trying to sell me their service.

I have been looking for Movie Producer's that are seeking scripts. There are some that have a page you can give your info about the script and they will contact you if they want to read the script/story. I have sent a few but no one has asked for the story. As it costs me about 12 to 15 bucks for the package I ain't sending anything until they ask for it. I believe most of the producer's are small studios so sending to them something and getting it produced is moot at best.

It can never do any harm to have copyright registration, especially for something that is unique and has taken a lot of work.

There's also nothing wrong with self publishing, if you're getting good feedback on your work. We all release songs which are self published. Including The Wiggles who very wisely kept their publishing rights to themselves.

So what you actually need is a small print run. THEN it's all legwork and self promotion until it gets on a respected critique site. These guys you are talking about are not publishers. It's similar to a dude with a small recording studio saying he's a record company.

If you have faith in yourself, and your work has been professionally vetted, then get it out there. Why not ?

Hey Nite, seems you got the screenwriting form done well. Good luck with it. My bro's novel is almost completed (72,000 - 80,000 words). I'm his agent. Ha! Here's a video Ray Cooper created for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWdMq1lZ7fE Seems all the big publishers have promotion packages. I thought since I did the music for Forged: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scAWpzAj7yQ - a Random House best seller release, they might cut me a deal. Either way, I'm in this hook, line and sinker. BAM has a pretty good promotional package. I'm thinking this is a backdoor in getting a film deal. In which case, maybe a film score for me. Then again, I may just be naive.

Hey Nite, seems you got the screenwriting form done well. Good luck with it. My bro's novel is almost completed (72,000 - 80,000 words). I'm his agent. Ha! Here's a video Ray Cooper created for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWdMq1lZ7fE Seems all the big publishers have promotion packages. I thought since I did the music for Forged: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scAWpzAj7yQ - a Random House best seller release, they might cut me a deal. Either way, I'm in this hook, line and sinker. BAM has a pretty good promotional package. I'm thinking this is a backdoor in getting a film deal. In which case, maybe a film score for me. Then again, I may just be naive.

Best, John

Hey John,

You're an agent ? Well, a spooky novel couldn't have a better agent than Mr Macabre himself !

Yep, it's all about promotion and marketing. Catch the punters eyes or ears, and then lift them up by the ankles and shake out their wallet and spare change.

The promo video looks great. As does the other novel. You're right about one thing. Why bother about trying to bang down the front door, when you can walk around the side and there might be a window left open ?

You're an agent ? Well, a spooky novel couldn't have a better agent than Mr Macabre himself !

Yep, it's all about promotion and marketing. Catch the punters eyes or ears, and then lift them up by the ankles and shake out their wallet and spare change.

The promo video looks great. As does the other novel. You're right about one thing. Why bother about trying to bang down the front door, when you can walk around the side and there might be a window left open ?

cheers, niteshift

Yeah Nite, I'm a double agent - one for my bro and one for me, me, me. Window open? It could accidently be broken open.

2000 unread scripts? That's nothing. I had over 150K CD's in my home, but we actually screened every single one of them! We're starting to toss them out as no one would take them but at a couple hundred a week, even after 5 years of tossing, there's STILL a LOT of them left!

I was reading an article about one of my all time favorite script writers Rod Serling. After many years he finally had his first script made into a TV Movie (one he thought nothing of in the least). It was his 76th feature length script he'd written. Like scripts, if you have written at least a few hundred songs, you're not ready to pitch any of them.