Wait, there must be a problem with subby's math. Because if Brett Ratner is going to direct Beverly Hills Cop 4, which would have to mean that someone already made a Beverly Hills Cop 3. And we all know that never happened.

Never. Happened. It was just part of my nightmare where I imagined there was also a Major League 3, a Rocky V, and a Caddyshack II.

Mugato:When was the last time Eddie Murphy was funny? The Nutty Professor when he was doing the minstrel black guy in drag thing? I heard Bowfinger was funny, I admittedly didn't see that.

Bowfinger IS funny, though IIRC Murphy himself was only a small part of what made it funny. He wasn't bad, just not the center of funny. You should check it out, but its very much a quirky kind of funny.

stoli n coke:Wait, there must be a problem with subby's math. Because if Brett Ratner is going to direct Beverly Hills Cop 4, which would have to mean that someone already made a Beverly Hills Cop 3. And we all know that never happened.

Never. Happened. It was just part of my nightmare where I imagined there was also a Major League 3, a Rocky V, and a Caddyshack II.

I'm sure Judge Reinhold hasn't done anything lately, and Eddie Murphy hasn't been funny since the first two, on the funny note John Ashton said he would be interested in returning to BHC 4. They can meet up with Bronson Pinchot (Serge) who can't believe AXWELL is still around!

/I seen BHC 3 one time, Wonder world? yeah no thanks, Some sequels do quite well, however this had to be one of the worst movies i've seen in years.

JammerJim:Mugato: When was the last time Eddie Murphy was funny? The Nutty Professor when he was doing the minstrel black guy in drag thing? I heard Bowfinger was funny, I admittedly didn't see that.

Bowfinger IS funny, though IIRC Murphy himself was only a small part of what made it funny. He wasn't bad, just not the center of funny. You should check it out, but its very much a quirky kind of funny.

News of the obvious: most comedians lose their edge when they age, and especially when they have kids. Eddie Murphy will never be "funny" like you want him to be again. He will never be "Eddie Murphy Raw" again. Stop being disappointed that the impossible will never happen.

Klippoklondike:stoli n coke: Wait, there must be a problem with subby's math. Because if Brett Ratner is going to direct Beverly Hills Cop 4, which would have to mean that someone already made a Beverly Hills Cop 3. And we all know that never happened.

Never. Happened. It was just part of my nightmare where I imagined there was also a Major League 3, a Rocky V, and a Caddyshack II.

Mugato:As for another Beverly Hills Cop, it'd be easier to list comedy sequels that didn't suck, because there are few. Christmas Vacation, the Back to the Futures, maybe Wayne's World 2.

Hot Shots Part Deux, which is better than the first. Naked Gun Two and a Half, Addams Family Values (which I prefer over the first), Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey, Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me.

The trouble with comedy is that it relies on a fresh, original idea. It's not carried by brands or cast bringing huge audiences in, but by original ideas. And a lot of comedy either fails, or is a bit meh, and in my opinion, the difference between working and not working in comedy is really small, in my opinion, in a way that isn't true with other cinema genres. So, the probability of getting it right twice, by taking the same characters, but doing a different take or a progression and that working is very small.

Farking Canuck:He always shall be known as the Rat-Bastard for ruining the Xmen trilogy.

Now, now. Bryan Singer ruined the X-Men trilogy when he passed on making the third one and decided to ruin the Superman movies by having Supes portrayed as a vanilla boy scout which audiences claimed they didn't want until Man of Steel came out.

Mugato:stoli n coke: and decided to ruin the Superman movies by having Supes portrayed as a vanilla boy scout which audiences claimed they didn't want until Man of Steel came out.

I thought he was a creepy stalker in Superman Returns and a murderous psycho in Man of Steel.

Considering the only person he actually killed on screen was Zod, that's a bit of a leap. Although, I'm sure there were casualties in the final fight scene destructothon, which could have been cut by a good 5 minutes. I chalk that up to his relative inexperience as a superhero.

Personally, I found it interesting that they finally portrayed Superman grappling with a very unique problem: He could effortlessly kill anyone he wants, and comes from a race that views human beings no higher than cockroaches, but the only person he willfully kills is one of the last of his own kind, someone bred for war that on multiple occasions stated that death was the only thing that would stop him.

I know the fanboy chant of "SUPES DOESN'T KILL," but during Man of Steel, Kal-el was still learning how to be Superman.

stoli n coke:I know the fanboy chant of "SUPES DOESN'T KILL," but during Man of Steel, Kal-el was still learning how to be Superman.

Exactly, after watching the movie I thought that was the best way to establish that he doesn't kill. Granted I only thought the movie was ok, but still I had no problem with that aspect. I still say all the pieces of a fantastic movie were there and they had the right idea of how to make it good, but they just didn't quite pull it off. It was almost like I was watching a rough cut of a film.

Brett Ratner should be where frats go to die. But no, you have to inflict your psuedo-Bluto, WHOSE TOGA YOU ARE NOT FIT TO IMAGINE reviving. This is also why Michael Bay movies thrive. Stop spending your parents' money on crap, Chad.

Brett Ratner is why Pheobe Cates doesn't make any movies anymore. No one objectifies Kevin Kline. Except for Tom Selleck.

stoli n coke:Mugato: stoli n coke: and decided to ruin the Superman movies by having Supes portrayed as a vanilla boy scout which audiences claimed they didn't want until Man of Steel came out.

I thought he was a creepy stalker in Superman Returns and a murderous psycho in Man of Steel.

Considering the only person he actually killed on screen was Zod, that's a bit of a leap. Although, I'm sure there were casualties in the final fight scene destructothon, which could have been cut by a good 5 minutes. I chalk that up to his relative inexperience as a superhero.

Personally, I found it interesting that they finally portrayed Superman grappling with a very unique problem: He could effortlessly kill anyone he wants, and comes from a race that views human beings no higher than cockroaches, but the only person he willfully kills is one of the last of his own kind, someone bred for war that on multiple occasions stated that death was the only thing that would stop him.

I know the fanboy chant of "SUPES DOESN'T KILL," but during Man of Steel, Kal-el was still learning how to be Superman.

In the comic books, it wasn't until after Superman executed the 3 Kryptonian Phantom Zone crinimals that he ever formally established his no kill rule.

And even then, his rule is more "try not to explicitly kill if you don't have to".

spcMike:stoli n coke: Mugato: stoli n coke: and decided to ruin the Superman movies by having Supes portrayed as a vanilla boy scout which audiences claimed they didn't want until Man of Steel came out.

I thought he was a creepy stalker in Superman Returns and a murderous psycho in Man of Steel.

Considering the only person he actually killed on screen was Zod, that's a bit of a leap. Although, I'm sure there were casualties in the final fight scene destructothon, which could have been cut by a good 5 minutes. I chalk that up to his relative inexperience as a superhero.

Personally, I found it interesting that they finally portrayed Superman grappling with a very unique problem: He could effortlessly kill anyone he wants, and comes from a race that views human beings no higher than cockroaches, but the only person he willfully kills is one of the last of his own kind, someone bred for war that on multiple occasions stated that death was the only thing that would stop him.

I know the fanboy chant of "SUPES DOESN'T KILL," but during Man of Steel, Kal-el was still learning how to be Superman.

In the comic books, it wasn't until after Superman executed the 3 Kryptonian Phantom Zone crinimals that he ever formally established his no kill rule.

And even then, his rule is more "try not to explicitly kill if you don't have to".

And then there's Doomsday, which he died to basically kill (though it didn't take for either of them) while also wrecking metropolis.

Why people think that collateral damage could have been avoided is beyond me....

The Banana Thug:Klippoklondike: stoli n coke: Wait, there must be a problem with subby's math. Because if Brett Ratner is going to direct Beverly Hills Cop 4, which would have to mean that someone already made a Beverly Hills Cop 3. And we all know that never happened.

Never. Happened. It was just part of my nightmare where I imagined there was also a Major League 3, a Rocky V, and a Caddyshack II.

I can only agree with half of that list. Sorry, but Star Trek 2 was pretty damn good.

The best thing I can say about Into Darkness was a 75% reduction in lensflare. (And no, that's not a standard-issue crack on Abrams, I just don't enjoy squinting throughout a movie.) It had all of the elements for a good movie, but they were hidden behind a wall of Kirk and Spock's blossoming friendship. It felt like they put too much energy and focus into that part of the story and failed in other areas where there should've been tension or suspense. I'm not sure if using Khan hurt the film, or if it was just the way they used him, but that felt like a waste to me. The crew seemed underutilized as well. Two films in, the reboot just feels like a fanfic. Still, I'd be lying if I said I didn't grin ear to ear when they began their 5-year mission at the end.