Now, regarding Adi's death: I'm one of the guys who's constantly going "TCW didn't ruin anything; all they've done is added." While Adi's death does break with that a bit, I don't think it removes Obsession from continuity.

Personal Retcon Ahoy:

Obsession takes place slightly earlier in continuity (I'm thinking shortly before the S3 time-jump, before the events of the Nightsister trilogy). Adi didn't die, she was just terribly wounded and got better (I don't remember how she died, but as long as she wasn't torn apart or burned in a fire, then a comic-book-resurrection is ok). And when Ventress leaves the Galaxy forever, it just isn't forever. She comes back, and returns to Dooku, who betrays her for the last time, causing her to run to Mother Talzin (Nightsisters trilogy).

If I remember Obsession correctly, she just got stabbed in the chest by General Grievous - it is certainly possible that she could have survived this (after all, Darth Maul survived being cut in half).

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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:37 am

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Jedi JoeMaster

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GrandMaster wrote:

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I think the green mist had something to do with Mother Talzin - the same thing happened when Maul's mechanical leg was chopped off.

I think the red mist in TPM was meant to be blood.

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It was meant to be blood, but Maul was meant to die as well. Maybe Talzin used some red magic on Maul the first time... haha

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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:13 am

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Taral-DLOS wrote:

I loved this episode!

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Now, regarding Adi's death: I'm one of the guys who's constantly going "TCW didn't ruin anything; all they've done is added." While Adi's death does break with that a bit, I don't think it removes Obsession from continuity.

Personal Retcon Ahoy:

Obsession takes place slightly earlier in continuity (I'm thinking shortly before the S3 time-jump, before the events of the Nightsister trilogy). Adi didn't die, she was just terribly wounded and got better (I don't remember how she died, but as long as she wasn't torn apart or burned in a fire, then a comic-book-resurrection is ok). And when Ventress leaves the Galaxy forever, it just isn't forever. She comes back, and returns to Dooku, who betrays her for the last time, causing her to run to Mother Talzin (Nightsisters trilogy).

I like it. Sounds as plausible as anything else we or they've come up with. Personal canon.....erm.... I mean, personal continuity lives!

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:36 pm

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Taral-DLOSMaster

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Mad Wook wrote:

Taral-DLOS wrote:

I loved this episode!

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Now, regarding Adi's death: I'm one of the guys who's constantly going "TCW didn't ruin anything; all they've done is added." While Adi's death does break with that a bit, I don't think it removes Obsession from continuity.

Personal Retcon Ahoy:

Obsession takes place slightly earlier in continuity (I'm thinking shortly before the S3 time-jump, before the events of the Nightsister trilogy). Adi didn't die, she was just terribly wounded and got better (I don't remember how she died, but as long as she wasn't torn apart or burned in a fire, then a comic-book-resurrection is ok). And when Ventress leaves the Galaxy forever, it just isn't forever. She comes back, and returns to Dooku, who betrays her for the last time, causing her to run to Mother Talzin (Nightsisters trilogy).

I like it. Sounds as plausible as anything else we or they've come up with. Personal canon.....erm.... I mean, personal continuity lives!

I find that I enjoy TCW more when I discount it from canon altogether. It just ruins the experience when I have to reconcile it with the films and other canon._________________Darth Vegas the unwise...

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:45 pm

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EMPIRE622 wrote:

All I can say is REALLY! I wish they would stop messing with Continuity!

I'm not hugely surprised. George loves to screw with stuff just because...reasons.

I mean, yes, you need to tell a good story, but picking two jedi masters, OTHER than two who are shown to be alive later, would not really change the plot of the show that much. Oh wait, at all.

I pity Leland and the others who have to work to clean things up after this is all said and done.

Personally, I'm hoping that TCW is eventually declared non-cannon or something like that that removes its numerous continuity blunders.

Taral-DLOS wrote:

I loved this episode!

Click here to see the hidden message (It might contain spoilers)

Now, regarding Adi's death: I'm one of the guys who's constantly going "TCW didn't ruin anything; all they've done is added." While Adi's death does break with that a bit, I don't think it removes Obsession from continuity.

Personal Retcon Ahoy:

Obsession takes place slightly earlier in continuity (I'm thinking shortly before the S3 time-jump, before the events of the Nightsister trilogy). Adi didn't die, she was just terribly wounded and got better (I don't remember how she died, but as long as she wasn't torn apart or burned in a fire, then a comic-book-resurrection is ok). And when Ventress leaves the Galaxy forever, it just isn't forever. She comes back, and returns to Dooku, who betrays her for the last time, causing her to run to Mother Talzin (Nightsisters trilogy).

This actually makes sense. But I still hope for the above.

But I REALLY like how you're thinking with this.

GrandMaster wrote:

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If I remember Obsession correctly, she just got stabbed in the chest by General Grievous - it is certainly possible that she could have survived this (after all, Darth Maul survived being cut in half).

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As someone who has seen that exact injury in the trauma department at a hospital (admittedly with a knife rather than a lightsaber), that is in fact quite survivable. So long as you miss the heart and the aorta, you're not going to kill the person. Especially with a lightsaber that would cauterize whatever else it damaged.

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:13 am

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Luke92Knight

Joined: 19 May 2011Posts: 367Location: England

Darth_Henning wrote:

EMPIRE622 wrote:

All I can say is REALLY! I wish they would stop messing with Continuity!

I'm not hugely surprised. George loves to screw with stuff just because...reasons.

I mean, yes, you need to tell a good story, but picking two jedi masters, OTHER than two who are shown to be alive later, would not really change the plot of the show that much. Oh wait, at all.

I pity Leland and the others who have to work to clean things up after this is all said and done.

Personally, I'm hoping that TCW is eventually declared non-cannon or something like that that removes its numerous continuity blunders.

Taral-DLOS wrote:

I loved this episode!

Click here to see the hidden message (It might contain spoilers)

Now, regarding Adi's death: I'm one of the guys who's constantly going "TCW didn't ruin anything; all they've done is added." While Adi's death does break with that a bit, I don't think it removes Obsession from continuity.

Personal Retcon Ahoy:

Obsession takes place slightly earlier in continuity (I'm thinking shortly before the S3 time-jump, before the events of the Nightsister trilogy). Adi didn't die, she was just terribly wounded and got better (I don't remember how she died, but as long as she wasn't torn apart or burned in a fire, then a comic-book-resurrection is ok). And when Ventress leaves the Galaxy forever, it just isn't forever. She comes back, and returns to Dooku, who betrays her for the last time, causing her to run to Mother Talzin (Nightsisters trilogy).

This actually makes sense. But I still hope for the above.

But I REALLY like how you're thinking with this.

GrandMaster wrote:

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If I remember Obsession correctly, she just got stabbed in the chest by General Grievous - it is certainly possible that she could have survived this (after all, Darth Maul survived being cut in half).

Click here to see the hidden message (It might contain spoilers)

As someone who has seen that exact injury in the trauma department at a hospital (admittedly with a knife rather than a lightsaber), that is in fact quite survivable. So long as you miss the heart and the aorta, you're not going to kill the person. Especially with a lightsaber that would cauterize whatever else it damaged.

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Well Kyle Katarn and Jaina Solo both got stabbed through the chest and survived so it's not beyond the realms of possibility

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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:24 am

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Taral-DLOSMaster

Joined: 23 Nov 2010Posts: 1998Location: Ontario, Canada

Has anyone else been reading the Darth Maul comics?

I just wanted to put forward one point that I like: there's nothing in the TV episodes that disproved the current TCW comics.

1. Brothers
2. Revenge
3. The Sith Hunters (digest, starts with Maul and Opress abandoned in the cargo ship)
4. Darth Maul: Death Sentence (4-issue miniseries, 3 of which are already out.)
5. Revival (injuries sustained by the characters not reflected in comics, so they come first.)

I like when the shows don't tread on the TCW EU. Like when the Citadel trilogy claimed that Anakin and Rex had never been carbon-frozen, but they had been in Shipyards of Doom (though that was the only inconsistency; the rest of the story was left alone)._________________http://taralbooks.blogspot.ca

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:46 am

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Jedi Joe wrote:

I find that I enjoy TCW more when I discount it from canon altogether. It just ruins the experience when I have to reconcile it with the films and other canon.

I agree. I could enjoy TCW as a separate canon. Different but equal to the EU. Unfortunately Apocalypse changed all that..._________________
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:20 am

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I have been mighty happy with the way the comics and the episodes of the clone wars have been tied in together but also work alone. They are doing a good job at keeping the feel of maul and opress very much the same in both as well. My faviorite part is that since Maul's return things have not been easy, times are hard for the brothers!_________________Mara: "Not many people Dare to hug me"
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