The smoke is gone. They changed the defective modulator, dropped the pan again
showing no visible debris, charging me yet another hours labour. Said the fluid
looks dark.

Where it used to shift hard up and down a little above 20 MPH before we started
everything - it now slips. RPM's seem higher all across the board, then again
that could be my imagination. A couple of times I hear some chattering under
load, more often in reverse.

Mechanic is telling me the tranny just died and needs rebuilding - has nothing
to do with his changing the fluid and the modulator. Is just a coincidence.

The truck is at 68,000 km. I've towed a uhaul trailer once in the last 2 years,
don't try to burn rubber or do any off roading. The previous owner did not seem
the type for that either. I am just a little miffed that some preventative
maintenance seems to have started this all off.

I've noticed in the Ford service manuals that one can adjust the bands. When
would one normally perform that service? Would it help here?

I am confused. I thought following your suggestion of a partial fluid change
would be good for the truck. Is it normal for the A4LD to just start slipping
that quickly?

I know it is hard for you to say without seeing or driving the truck. But if
there is something I can try and report back to you then I will.

Can you recommend a site that has a good description of the basic workings of an
automatic transmission so I can get a better understanding?
--
Roy
rem NADA to reply

it's too late to tell at this point, but I wonder if the correct modulator
was put in it

"Roy Brown" <roybrown@sympatico.caNADA> wrote in message
news:TkTKe.8806$yH2.506097@news20.bellglobal.com...
> The smoke is gone. They changed the defective modulator, dropped the pan
again
> showing no visible debris, charging me yet another hours labour. Said the
fluid
> looks dark.
>
> Where it used to shift hard up and down a little above 20 MPH before we
started
> everything - it now slips. RPM's seem higher all across the board, then
again
> that could be my imagination. A couple of times I hear some chattering
under
> load, more often in reverse.
>
> Mechanic is telling me the tranny just died and needs rebuilding - has
nothing
> to do with his changing the fluid and the modulator. Is just a
coincidence.
>
> The truck is at 68,000 km. I've towed a uhaul trailer once in the last 2
years,
> don't try to burn rubber or do any off roading. The previous owner did not
seem
> the type for that either. I am just a little miffed that some preventative
> maintenance seems to have started this all off.
>
> I've noticed in the Ford service manuals that one can adjust the bands.
When
> would one normally perform that service? Would it help here?
>
> I am confused. I thought following your suggestion of a partial fluid
change
> would be good for the truck. Is it normal for the A4LD to just start
slipping
> that quickly?
>
> I know it is hard for you to say without seeing or driving the truck. But
if
> there is something I can try and report back to you then I will.
>
> Can you recommend a site that has a good description of the basic workings
of an
> automatic transmission so I can get a better understanding?
> --
> Roy
> rem NADA to reply
>
>
>
> "TranSurgeon" <nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom> wrote in message
> news:kXLKe.17591$084.15504@attbi_s22...
> | if it's 'still' blowing white smoke, it's still sucking ATF out of the
> | modulator
> |
> |
> | "Roy Brown" <roybrown@sympatico.caNADA> wrote in message
> | news:dMKKe.8514$yH2.418344@news20.bellglobal.com...
> | > If not, could you please give me your opinion on my other posts in the
> | thread:
> | >
> | > "94 Ranger problems (tranny and now white smoke?)"
> | >
> | > Is there something fixable or do you think I also need a remanned
> | transmission.
> | >
> | > --
> | > Roy
> | > rem NADA to reply
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > "Roy Brown" <roybrown@sympatico.caNADA> wrote in message
> | > news:Te5Ke.7114$6d4.893780@news20.bellglobal.com...
> | > |I would like some quick telephone advice ASAP. If I can call you
please
> | email
> | > me
> | > | your tel #.
> | > |
> | > | TIA
> | > |
> | > | --
> | > | Roy
> | > | rem NADA to reply
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

OK my brother suggested that I bring the truck to his town to see a tranny guy
he recommends. It is about 40 minutes away at highway speeds. Would you think it
is OK to drive mine that far, or should I get it towed?

--
Roy
rem NADA to reply

"TranSurgeon" <nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom> wrote in message
news:oc0Le.245118$_o.152752@attbi_s71...
| it's too late to tell at this point, but I wonder if the correct modulator
| was put in it
|
|
| "Roy Brown" <roybrown@sympatico.caNADA> wrote in message
| news:TkTKe.8806$yH2.506097@news20.bellglobal.com...
| > The smoke is gone. They changed the defective modulator, dropped the pan
| again
| > showing no visible debris, charging me yet another hours labour. Said the
| fluid
| > looks dark.
| >
| > Where it used to shift hard up and down a little above 20 MPH before we
| started
| > everything - it now slips. RPM's seem higher all across the board, then
| again
| > that could be my imagination. A couple of times I hear some chattering
| under
| > load, more often in reverse.
| >
| > Mechanic is telling me the tranny just died and needs rebuilding - has
| nothing
| > to do with his changing the fluid and the modulator. Is just a
| coincidence.
| >
| > The truck is at 68,000 km. I've towed a uhaul trailer once in the last 2
| years,
| > don't try to burn rubber or do any off roading. The previous owner did not
| seem
| > the type for that either. I am just a little miffed that some preventative
| > maintenance seems to have started this all off.
| >
| > I've noticed in the Ford service manuals that one can adjust the bands.
| When
| > would one normally perform that service? Would it help here?
| >
| > I am confused. I thought following your suggestion of a partial fluid
| change
| > would be good for the truck. Is it normal for the A4LD to just start
| slipping
| > that quickly?
| >
| > I know it is hard for you to say without seeing or driving the truck. But
| if
| > there is something I can try and report back to you then I will.
| >
| > Can you recommend a site that has a good description of the basic workings
| of an
| > automatic transmission so I can get a better understanding?
| > --
| > Roy
| > rem NADA to reply
| >
| >
| >
| > "TranSurgeon" <nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom> wrote in message
| > news:kXLKe.17591$084.15504@attbi_s22...
| > | if it's 'still' blowing white smoke, it's still sucking ATF out of the
| > | modulator
| > |
| > |
| > | "Roy Brown" <roybrown@sympatico.caNADA> wrote in message
| > | news:dMKKe.8514$yH2.418344@news20.bellglobal.com...
| > | > If not, could you please give me your opinion on my other posts in the
| > | thread:
| > | >
| > | > "94 Ranger problems (tranny and now white smoke?)"
| > | >
| > | > Is there something fixable or do you think I also need a remanned
| > | transmission.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Roy
| > | > rem NADA to reply
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "Roy Brown" <roybrown@sympatico.caNADA> wrote in message
| > | > news:Te5Ke.7114$6d4.893780@news20.bellglobal.com...
| > | > |I would like some quick telephone advice ASAP. If I can call you
| please
| > | email
| > | > me
| > | > | your tel #.
| > | > |
| > | > | TIA
| > | > |
| > | > | --
| > | > | Roy
| > | > | rem NADA to reply
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

Made arrangements to bring it in to the trans shop on Tuesday. I'll post back
when we know more.

--
Roy
rem NADA to reply

"TranSurgeon" <nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom> wrote in message
news:fV4Le.262444$xm3.141990@attbi_s21...
| the second one
|
| as far as driving it 40 miles, I wouldn't
|
|
| "Roy Brown" <roybrown@sympatico.caNADA> wrote in message
| news:jF4Le.18493$6d4.1404455@news20.bellglobal.com...
| > The first modulator, second or both?
| >
| > OK my brother suggested that I bring the truck to his town to see a tranny
| guy
| > he recommends. It is about 40 minutes away at highway speeds. Would you
| think it
| > is OK to drive mine that far, or should I get it towed?
| >
| > --
| > Roy
| > rem NADA to reply
| >
| >
| >
| > "TranSurgeon" <nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom> wrote in message
| > news:oc0Le.245118$_o.152752@attbi_s71...
| > | it's too late to tell at this point, but I wonder if the correct
| modulator
| > | was put in it
| > |
| > |

Got it to the tranny shop.1st test drive (me driving) the tech noticed the
slipping, but wanted boss to check it out. 2nd drive with boss, started off with
the slipping, then the reams of white smoke and rough engine, rattling etc. He
thought the same as me, head gasket, when this happened back in the beginning of
this ordeal. Said it was virtually impossible for 2 modulators to go within a
tank of gas. So he pulled into the mechanic he knew to get a second opinion.
They popped the hood, pulled the vacuum line, smoke stopped and engine levelled
out.

Turns out the 1st garage dropped the little pin the modulator valve moves, this
in turn, was causing the diaphragm to blow.
They had a pin on hand, installed it with a new modulator and more fluid.

So 3 modulator valves and partial fluid changes later, I've still got a hard
shift up and down that I guess I'll have to live with. Carrying a lighter load
in my wallet doesn't seem to make any difference.

Do you think tinkering with the adjustment screw on the modulator valve might
help?

Thank you for all the help.

--
Roy
rem NADA to reply

"Roy Brown" <roybrown@sympatico.caNADA> wrote in message
news:kUcLe.21958$6d4.1472736@news20.bellglobal.com...
| Thank you very much,
|
| Made arrangements to bring it in to the trans shop on Tuesday. I'll post back
| when we know more.
|
| --
| Roy
| rem NADA to reply
|
|
|
| "TranSurgeon" <nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom> wrote in message
| news:fV4Le.262444$xm3.141990@attbi_s21...
|| the second one
||
|| as far as driving it 40 miles, I wouldn't
||
||
|| "Roy Brown" <roybrown@sympatico.caNADA> wrote in message
|| news:jF4Le.18493$6d4.1404455@news20.bellglobal.com...
|| > The first modulator, second or both?
|| >
|| > OK my brother suggested that I bring the truck to his town to see a tranny
|| guy
|| > he recommends. It is about 40 minutes away at highway speeds. Would you
|| think it
|| > is OK to drive mine that far, or should I get it towed?
|| >
|| > --
|| > Roy
|| > rem NADA to reply
|| >
|| >
|| >
|| > "TranSurgeon" <nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom> wrote in message
|| > news:oc0Le.245118$_o.152752@attbi_s71...
|| > | it's too late to tell at this point, but I wonder if the correct
|| modulator
|| > | was put in it
|| > |
|| > |
|
|

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