That new model is actually more historically accurate (the hull itself was less sloped than the spaced armour, that's why it's mounted on rods and not directly welded on). But then again, the gun is utterly neutered, it was on par with the long 88 (it's an L/74 barrel, ffs).

Buff its pene/accuracy (~ 200mm/0.34) and nerf the RoF a bit, and I won't mind the reduced armour. But we all know that's not gonna happen.

Who gives a flying fuck about this "historical accuracy" bullcrap? Every 2nd tank in this game is NOT historically accurate! This is only a bloody lame excuse for WG.net buffing, but mostly nerfing tanks around every way they want to. Do you want to tell me that e.g. putting the transmission in front of German tanks is "historically accurate"? I cannot hear this bullshit anymore the arrogant pricks at WG.net are feeding us with every time they are making some of their ridiculous, feeble minded game changes. There are so many "historically inaccurate" things in this game that if the WoT game designers would get a punch in the face every time they start this "historical accuracy" blabber, they had no faces anymore.

I currently have 908 average XP in it, with 1,7k dmg. It is not that bad, as u make it.But it is not really versatile - go in the face of the enemy is the only tactic viable. At least if u want to actually hit the enemy and not the ground, trees, houses, bushes, water or the sun.

200-225 went through the front before anyway. JPII, Ferdi, and KT 10.5 reliably pens the lower glacis, T34 and IS-3 punch through the upper glacis like nobody's business. Angle and use the invinci-mantle.

"200-225 went through the front before anyway. JPII, Ferdi, and KT 10.5 reliably pens the lower glacis, T34 and IS-3 punch through the upper glacis like nobody's business. Angle and use the invinci-mantle."

No, the super pershing did not suffer a reduction to its spaced armour. It's spaced armour is identical to what it was. The only thing that changed on the 8.6 front in gamemodels, from some reason a 0mm spaced armour component is displayed.

Thats not what i meant ( but good to know though ). They changes/nerf made the frontal armor slope less, so doesn't this reduces the overall frontal armor? Shouldn't this just make it easier to penetrate with AP? ...

Making a tank weaker is a nerf, regardless of the justification. And it's still not fully accurate- instead of having two 38mm spaced armour plates, it has only one, with the sections of hull with double overlap being thickened by 38mm- and the hull has less slope than the extra plating. Not to mention the massively gimped long 90. -Platypusbill

Tread lightly with the use of the word 'Historical'. WG's use of the word for the following means:In reference to ussr and chinese armour means buff and not OP.In reference to all other armour means nerf and erradicate usefulness.

Where is the historical gun for this tank. Records indicate it was a little bit more powerful than the current pea shooter it has.

Some Russian guy from WG said, that the SP wont absorb the HEAT shells as it used to, because there are not much space between the hull armor and the additional armor. Only high tier tanks like E-100 and Maus benefit from this because they have larger space between the inner and outer armor.

WTF are you smoking? Tier ISU-152 AP goes trough UFP 80% of the time at least on 0.8.5. Do you even own SP? Oh,right.The bother is that everyone with 225+ penetration will be able to just kill SP right trough the front hull. No need to BOTHER with the weakspot. And yes everyone shoots the weakspot only now they will be able to do so more reliably because of the accuracy buff.SP armour went from hero to zero is what bothers me, and the rest of the tank is crap.

For some reason, the added a 0mm group of spaced armour for the tank, taking the place of what was the front spaced armour (38mm), and pushing the colour of the spaced armour to be slightly darker. Overall, the armour is identical.

2nd Anniversary Birthday Card Contest whine was a bit too much(whining about not getting a tank out of the contest).I bought SP for cash and now is getting nerfed armour AND MM(tier IX arty will rape it) and everyone is getting a buff to accuracy(so more hits to the weakspot). The reaction is rather UNDERWHELMING IMO.

It's no real nerf, calm down. Maybe more guns will pen the front but that doesn't mean this shells will do damage because it's still spaced armor. And everyone "pens" the front of SP actually in 8.5 already but doesn't do any damage.

SP is made for newbies who rush straight to the enemy. Because of the spaced armor this noobs can survive a little bit longer and "enjoy" the game more then 2-3mins per round. No serious player would play the SP... wait... no serious player would play WoT seriously. Hope you get my point ;)

I guess that next time they'll either remove its tracks or gun in order to force us and buy something else, right? It was already the worst tier 8 premium, since it's the less expensive, but they had to make it even worse, nice marketing strategy WG.

Still worth its weight in cash if you arent stupid enough to believe people won't just pen your front. Ever since gold rounds for credits came out, only an idiot SP driver would rely on its hull armor completely.

They're bitching because that change crippled its armor. Its armor - the only strongpoint the tank had - is now 30% less effective. HEAT changes? Would take 60cm of space between the spaced armor and hull to make up for that (hunt: there's not that much room). APCR? Normalization dropped by three but the Super Pershing lost 10 degrees at least.

Every fucking asshole is using prem ammo on SPs when they are too dumb to pen it at its weak spots anyway, and now it got nerfed so that the "casual" (let's rather call them what they are: noob) players can handle it easier? OMG, those butt hurt brainless retards from WG.net did it again. I bought something for good money, being promised a certain performance, and then it gets degraded with every fucking patch by those Belorussian FRAUDSTERS (because that is what this scum really is). Had it with the T34 and Löwe already (don't tell me their accuracy did not get nerfed with every single patch since 0.8.0). I wish someone would pay these bastards a visit with a baseball club.

Cant agree with you more there. Hope you dont have a stockpile of HEAT shells that you paid for with gold, it appears as though they are not reimbursing gold after they remove your purchased ammo from you stash. Atleast i will never need to use the pershing again after they nerf it. They are reimbursing players with credits apperently.

Lol finnally because i see a IS8, IS-8!!! shot 3 times to a Super in frontal and all shots 0 dmg, lol equal to a T32, only premiun shells, luck to hit the little weak points or Tier 9 to 10 make a good dmg to frontal armor in that tank considering to is a Mediun lol.