I admit, I've read nothing of this thread, but ... is the title of this thread A JOKE?! Look, I can tell you're a teenager, and trying to feel things out, but people don't keep lists of the best black tennis players here. And they keep lists of a lot of other things, like players going bald. Really, kid, move on.

i guess that was my whole point. to say that someone is "black" is completely idiotic. not to mention it's inaccurate, though it is in common usage everywhere. it says very little about where someone is from, or what their lineage is.

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Out come the White Guilt Brigade, right on cue... "You just can't talk about this, OK?! It doesn't exist, so whatever you do don't talk about it!!"

To make this thread back into an argument...some puerto ricans and dominicans are very dark, so would you classify them as black? What about men or women who were born black, but had a sever case of vitiligo and appear white? Would you classify them as white if you saw them walking on the street?

Evonne is multiracial, not black. Anyone can see that she's not a black woman. Is Roger Federer also black because he has dark hair? Has there been another poster who's agreed with natural? This black man doesn't agree that Evonne Goolagong is black because she's not.

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If that's your definition, then neither Blake nor Tsonga is black. And, of course, neither is Obama or Tiger Woods.

To make this thread back into an argument...some puerto ricans and dominicans are very dark, so would you classify them as black? What about men or women who were born black, but had a sever case of vitiligo and appear white? Would you classify them as white if you saw them walking on the street?

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this thread is looking more and more as if it belongs in "rants and raves"