Just seeing if you are still around, OP. Fascinating thread. In one of your posts, you said something about the "hidden ones." Would these also be the same beings who call themselves Gods or Goddesses? Or am I getting mixed up? Thanks

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12842609

Some of the old gods in ancient texts are what we call archonic. They also reside in the bible.

Quoting: mysterynomore

Can you mention a few archonic gods in the bible? You got me curious now.

And, were they cast out of heaven and down into the 4th dimension - into the "shadow of death"? I always wondered what 'walking thru the valley of the shadow of death' meant. Is earth the 'valley, and 'they' above in an unseen realm casting shadows upon earth? - those dark shadows people see (not me thankfully)? So that verse means we are walking on earth in the shadow of the dark critters in an unseen realm? As in Psalm 23 "Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me"

Thanks OP!

Quoting: sleepypoochy

Christians don't like to hear the truth..it hurts there belief systems.

The majority of what they term the bible was influenced by certain beings...manipulated to suit an agenda.

They play of the good and evil concept to divide the masses.It's the same concept in political circles...the left and right factions.

God...satan...fallen angels...it's all imprinted to seperate consciousness into factions and heirarchies.

All of the worlds systems..be it in political...jobs in company's...every known system has a heirarchy system attached to it.

This only contributes to division in knowledge...self worth and so on.It undermines every aspect of humanity's worth in creation.

The amount of pain and self worth is very evident in our world today..it's made people feel hopeless and discarded as being fodder in this system.

The archonic...demonic...see the similiar wording that's attached to the same being...has been responsibile in part to many of our past and present systems.

The main two gods start as yahweh...yaldabaoth and there are others.I'm not into the bible or religion...so if you see these names and others that are on a similiar line...they are the archonic heirachy.

The jewish faith is littered with these beings...there strong hold in the concept of religious division lies in there ancient texts.

All of it is imitation to rule and divide...it keeps people locked into a certain frequency.

The virgin mary concept is archonic...it's a sexual perverted entity that if revealed would knock the socks of humanity.

The virgin mary is the same as the queen of the sumarian linage...ishtar. these are the same energy lines.also the one they call ishbaal..that one is hidden from the public texts...it's the main energy line of the archonic influence.I know it's in reference to a king in the bible but that name goes back further through the lineage of these entity's.

I could write a whole thread on this...but i'm not going to get into the religion concept here.