I was hoping for another one bites the dust as a headline with Bostick and now Teixeira.

Teri Bristol should be looked into next, she knows this was wrong but is spineless to challenge her boss.

CTI.. but so what anymore(Wednesday, July 08 15 12:16 pm EDT)

Just speculation, but really think about this...

The FAA was reluctant to investigate Shelton Snow. In fact, during that time, he was promoted to a very well paying position.

I wonder how many HR names he has that helped him, that he will name quickly if he is investigated. That is probably why the FAA doesn't want this investigated.

Concerned CTI(Tuesday, June 16 15 11:41 am EDT)

NEW AT-SAT UPDATE: There is NOTHING NEW. EVERYTHING IS THE SAME MATERIAL, SAME PROBLEMS, SAME QUESTIONS!!

They only took out the personal questions at the end which were about 150 questions (wouldn't impact your score anyway). SAME OLD AT-SAT.

Dials section has a problem which has no correct answer. 0.625 was the correct reading, but according to the options they were all incorrect. I am pretty sure I can see and scoring well over 90+ on
previous 2 AT-SATs. We were never given notice our AT-SAT scores have expired, so they should remain active for 3 years as previously stated by the FAA.

The Analogies section has duplicate questions for the last 2 pictures. So, if you got it wrong, you missed 10 automatically.

The Grandmas who administered the AT-SAT are clueless. They cannot answer any questions, yet alone see. Nobody could give an answer why they are duplicate questions.

Why wasn't the biographical questionnaire scored immediately upon closing of the vacancy announcement? How did applicants pass one version of the biographical questionnaire and not the other? (2014
vs 2015) Did applicants change how they answered? If so, how credible is the testing when applicants are gaming the test? If not, how can both tests be validated? How do you answer the allegations of
what appears to be blatant cheating by Shelton Snow with the aid of human resources?

Why is Molly Harris of the FAA saying in internal memo's they need to carefully craft responses regarding FAA hiring? "We have to find a way to address Congressional inquiries without hurting our
case when it comes to litigation"

Were high school dropouts allowed to apply to become controllers? (YES. Mr. Huerta if you would like to dispute this point us to where graduating high school was a requirement to apply in
2014.)

Were resumes initially looked at prior to disqualifying applicants? (No)

Did Terry Craft confirm on video that CTI students were diverse and Michael Huerta was well aware of it? (Yes)

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H35hJEeDjc

Does the FAA require highly specialized aviation related experience for an ATA (Air Traffic Assistant, subordinate to a controller) who gives ZERO control instructions (Yes)

Were many military controllers disqualified off this biographical assessment? (Yes, many of these controllers hold FAA certified CTO's.)

Did many current Air Traffic Controllers surreptitiously take the biographical assessment and get rejected? (Yes)

Did the FAA tell people as late as October 2013 on their website the only way to become a controller was CTI or military despite having a change in plans in the works for months? (Yes)

How much money was wasted with administering the AT-SAT to applicants who previously scored well-qualified?

Did new hired employees from 2014 lack a basic understanding of the English language and one with a speech impediment? (Yes, Source: FAAMA statement to Human Resources: "A large number of newly hired
employees have already begun their federal employment as future air traffic control specialists without an interview, yet some did not have a basic understanding of the English language. Another case
we discussed with you concerns an air traffic control student with a speech impediment. In each of these cases, a pre-employment interview would have identified these issues prior to their employment
and the wasted salary and per diem associated with failing their initial training. Most importantly, is the need to identify applicants who are unsuitable for employment based on safety and security
grounds ; " -January 20, 2015 letter )

Could the FAA hire every applicant in the existing pipeline as of December 31st, 2013 and give them a TOL to help with the controller deficit? (Yes)

Why is the FAA avoiding answering any questions involving their reports that show an indisputable advantage of hiring CTI/WQ applicants? Why hasn't Mr. Huerta answered any of the repeated inquiries
from the media or members of Congress and the Senate?

(No matter how much anecdotal evidence the administrator wants to cite...CTI graduates succeed at a much higher rate despite it not being adjusted for first facility difficulty. CTI's were challenged
more because they were deemed able to handle it and less likely to fail.

Source: Page 13 of the

The Utility of the Air Traffic Selection and Training Test Battery in Hiring

Graduates of an Air Traffic-Collegiate

Training Initiative Program.

An invalid counterpoint that may be brought up is that the FAA used to always hire off the street....like when resumes were actually reviewed, there wasn't an option to go to CTI school, and the
academy had rigorous standards. Is the FAA going to say that some students couldn't afford tuition at a community college or were denied student loans? Despite Embry Riddle costing 100k for tuition
they aren't the only CTI school in existence.

Did the FAA stop hiring off the street candidates because they "just weren't working out" and didn't allow them to apply to any new bids in 2010 and 2011?

(Yes, Pubnat 8 was 2009. They hired from that list in fall 2010/Spring 2011. The last public hiring was in 2009. They gave AT-SAT's that fall. They would go on to look at these candidates fall 2010
and spring 2011. Where were all the public hire bids in 2010 and 2011? There was no reason for them to bring them back since the CTI schools were growing and between them and VRA's they would crank
out enough well qualified applicants. Public hires were supposed to be a last resort if the well was dry. FAA was constantly culling data on CTI's vs OTS, WQ vs Q etc. They saw they correlation and
it kept growing. The amounts of CTI schools were hitting a pinnacle. These "Better qualified" candidates were so "better" the FAA didn't want them for years.)

Ask Mr. Huerta if the biographical assessment was proctored (it wasn't, leaving it open to cheating as well as receiving coaching or advice on how to answer).

^NBCFAE says no wrongdoing on their part. I must have imagined Sheldon Snow's voice text

[Greeting Members,

On yesterday, FOX NEWS broadcasted a segment in which they accused the NBCFAE of cheating. These allegations are not true and unfounded.

The National Black Coalition of Federal Aviation Employees (NBCFAE) is an employee’s association with over 1000 members. We are a multicultural educational organization with more than 35 years’
experience in promoting careers in aviation, science, and technology, primarily through providing aviation career education (ACE) academies, educational seminars, college recruitment, and training
conferences. Membership in the NBCFAE is open to all demographics.

During my tenure as President, the NBCFAE has never authorized, promoted, engaged, or supported any effort to undermine the testing process for prospective air traffic controllers. Any assertion to
the contrary is untrue and unfounded. Our website describes the process for gaining employment with the FAA ONLY by linking candidates to the FAA’s officially published procedures.

The NBCFAE supports hiring highly qualified candidates for all positions within the FAA, but we are not a hiring authority for the FAA. We support diversity and inclusion.

I ask that you as members of the NBCFAE focus on the great things we have done and continue to help make a difference in the DOT/FAA. Remember our motto “Let each become all they are capable of
being”.

A lot of people who work under Teixeira are afraid to speak out against him. They need to be forced to legally make a statement under oath because as it stands now they are happy to dodge the issue
and kick the can.

I have personal knowledge a CTI dropout (couldn't hack the program) was selected over myself.

Keep on going after the FAA, we can't and won't stop now.

Thank you CTIstudents.com for existing. Keep the aggression up. I will be back with more stubborn questions....

psychomagician(Monday, April 20 15 09:04 pm EDT)

Sole source to APT Metrics (aka Applied Psychological Techniques, Inc.) of $1,820,000 in contracts under DTFAWA-13-C-00002 with proposed mod of up to $1.5M for new test when multiple qualified
bidders available

Mike Hotel(Saturday, March 28 15 01:35 am EDT)

Very suspicious the FAA pushes back the application deadline. Clearly all the CTI's are done applying...seems to me maybe there is something less than ethical going on.

anonymous(Monday, March 16 15 05:39 pm EDT)

any news on the lawsuit? I heard the FAA offered a settlement, and it was rejected by the lawyers. I didnt join it in time. :(
Good luck to everyone else though. Anonymous

“FAA’s lack of oversight resulted in four consecutive years of cost overruns totaling $89 million. Furthermore, the agency expended its full five-year budget in the span of four years. Since these
excessive expenditures were primarily caused by internal mismanagement, creating a new training program would likely result in the outlay of significant additional taxpayer funds with no guarantee of
success.

“At a time when the FAA plans to hire more than 11,700 air traffic controllers through fiscal year 2021 to deal with an impending shortage of controllers, FAA should immediately solve the internal
problems that afflict the agency. Otherwise, neither the incumbent contractor nor a new contractor will continue to be able to fulfill the objectives of the ATCOTS program.”

bio-Q ready(Wednesday, March 04 15 04:35 pm EST)

So anyone have anonymous details about the "settlement offer" from the FAA. I filed in the case, but haven't heard anything yet.

[Many AT-CTI schools partner with other groups in a collaborative effort to bring more minority
youth into the school system. Florida State College “partners directly with several high schools
that serve both urban and rural areas and traditionally underrepresented student populations.”
One outgrowth of this partnership is an aviation-themed summer camp, which is offered to
students through the help of the Organization of Black Aerospace Professionals (OBAP). The
Community College of Beaver County is also working with a nationally recognized organization
(The National Black Coalition of Federal Aviation Employees) to increase minority enrollment.
Similarly, Purdue’s College of Technology at Indianapolis has partnered with aviation
businesses and professionals to form SOAR, which assists minority students as they work
towards an aviation degree.]

How to get hired(Sunday, January 25 15 03:05 pm EST)

Pay one of your friends to come take the BQ for you that was hired in the 2014 panel.

I didn't see part 5 posted in the comments or on the front page. In any event feel free to keep it off the comments part of the site and mix in some of those stubborn questions with these. Please cut
or add as you see fit. I'm anticipating any updates to the site. We thank you. You have my full permission to publish how you see fit.

Are current and ex FAA employees (many of them NATCA members who encouraged family and friends to attend CTI schools or enlist as a controller) working behind the scenes to gather evidence as well as
volunteering to sign sworn affidavits or testify in front of Congress regarding the FAA's hiring debacle? (Yes, including but not limited to some very CREDIBLE members who have spent decades training
controllers.)

Did some BIO-Q passers (not including the one with a DUI, zero aviation experience, or those who didn't even want an ATC job.) have to repeat ATC related course curriculum because they failed to
receive a satisfactory grade? (Yes, big thanks to the above militia who was able to provide this information among other tasty tidbits we will save for a later day and time)

Could the FAA hire every applicant in the existing pipeline as of December 31st, 2013 and give them a TOL to help with the controller deficit (Yes, and my Congressmen as well as those in neighboring
districts are baffled as to why this wasn't done yet. They have all the information they need regarding this.)

Was my Congressmen bemused when I showed them qualifications of myself and my peers including but not limited to CTO's issued by the FAA, pilot's licenses, dispatcher certification, tremendous
aviation experience, military experience, CTI/ATC coursework, and statements against OTS hiring from lifelong FAA employees who provided sourced, factual information for them to reference?
(Yes)

Does the FAA mitigate much of their advantage in CTI student hiring by assigning students who took TERMINAL CLASSES an EN ROUTE FACILITY and vice versa (Yes. I just learned this happened after the
BIO-Q and has been going on forever. Another feather in the CTI cap. You send kids who ran tower labs and terminal approach scenarios for a couple semesters to En route facilities and they STILL are
doing significantly better than the OTS hires. The FAA is wasting a built in advantage there as well….what a shock. Thanks again to the militia who did some matching with transcripts and placement of
candidates)

Is the FAA currently in communication with CTI schools regarding who graduated and received a recommendation? (Not to our knowledge. Congress, still curious….)

Do we have much, much, more information we are sitting on (Yes)

Dear FAA,

You can fix this debacle tomorrow.

Do the right thing with those in the pipeline who passed the AT-SAT with a WQ score and offer them TOL's. Work with our representatives moving forward to ensure the best of the best is plugged in for
decades to come. We know many of you have been told this is a huge mistake. My Congressman has said they would "call off the dogs" and eagerly anticipate a chance to discuss a better hiring system
moving forward.

"Two degree Tina", I'm in stitches over here. Hey Tina why don't you spend sometime investigating one of the biggest embarrassments in the agencies history? Or answering any of the stubborn questions
we have posted on this site?

Keep cashing that FAA paycheck though...shills gunna shill. Are you in charge of deploying the pro-OTS sentiment to the internet? We had a good laugh at all the alleged CPC's who came out of the
woodwork to defend OTS hiring with their anecdotal examples both past and present ducking and dodging the FAA reports citing the CTI advantage. We've refuted that argument to death though and being
college graduates we were able to source our work.

Fortunately many of us can go visit our local field facility and have a good chuckle talking with legitimate controllers who want the best and brightest alongside them. Tina, what do you think we did
in the armed forces or CTI school exactly? We didn't have 35 operation errors on the AT-SAT, ask for a handout, or fail drug tests for one.

Stubborn Questions for the FAA Part 5:

Are NATCA members and CPC's infuriated with the lack of response from the FAA as well as NATCA?

(Yes, you do understand that CPC's and NATCA members coast to coast find it embarrassing that military controllers and CTI graduates are being passed over in favor of people with ZERO aviation
experience, ZERO desire for the position, or an ability to pass a background check? Many NATCA members have friends or family they encouraged to go to CTI schools like they did and question the
integrity of the FAA's new hiring procedures. What confidence does a current TOL holder have in NATCA or the FAA after witnessing this massive debacle?)

Did the Barrier Analysis conducted by Dr James Outtz recommend that the relationship of the FAA with the CTI schools be strengthened? (Yes)

Did Terry Craft confirm on video that CTI students were diverse and Michael Huerta was aware of it? (Yes)

Did Terry Craft confirm on video that the diversity advantage was mitigated by Carolyn Bostick's neolithic incompetence?
(Yes, this excuse also makes zero sense to me but probably is more canned FAA deception. Previously your age had frozen if you were awarded a TOL, so what was the problem? Someone is huffing paint
when they come up with this nonsense....maybe they need to hand out some randoms at headquarters...Carolyn if you're feeling that generous with handouts why not give up your job to an OTS
applicant?)

Is the FAA trying to stall and delay answering questions to beat the morale out of the CTI students and military applicants that were wronged? (Yes)

wanttohelp(Wednesday, November 26 14 09:35 am EST)

Do you think any of the off the street, no aviation experience needed new hires could have done this?

ATC audio of a Houston controller talking a VFR pilot through an emergency IFR approach into Houston Executive Airport included instruction on setting up a GPS, vectors, and managing the Cessna 172's
engine as it descended from 8500 feet. Pilot Mark Nelson had called ATC for help when he was trapped above clouds flying his Cessna 172 over Texas on Nov. 16. According to a report from KHOU 11 News,
controller Hugh McFarland -- an instrument-rated pilot -- was tapped to aid Nelson. He assessed the pilot's flight condition and pointed him towards Houston Executive on the edge of the Class B
airspace. The airport was reporting 800 feet overcast. Nelson, who was solo, said he had a Garmin GNS 430 and a handheld GPS on board, but no autopilot. He said he had some IFR training.

During the 41-minute audio, McFarland instructed Nelson to fly wings level and use standard rate turns when he needed to change his heading. He confirmed that the cockpit CDI was coupled to the 430
and told Nelson to keep it in GPS mode. Nelson followed instructions to descend at 90 knots, 500 feet per minute, as he followed vectors heading south, then east and north to line up with Runway 36.
During the descent, McFarland reminded the pilot to enrichen the mixture and use carburetor heat. "You're doing great," he said. "You're tracking southbound and your airspeed seems to be under
control." During the final descent and lined up with the 6,600-foot runway, Nelson had trouble finding the airport, but McFarland continued talking after he lost radar contact with the Cessna. He
pointed out that Interstate 10 runs south of the field and continued talking until Nelson had the runway in sight. "I found the airport, I think I'm gonna make it, thank you," he said.

Rumored OTS hiring again in March (they never learn). They were ripped by the House today over NextGen failures.

They are trying to foist as many OTS in before they privatize or Congress steps in. I question where NATCA's allegiance lies now, many new hires and current CPC's are furious and their patience is
running out.

FAA hoping to beat the morale out of the CTI's through delay and dodging.

FAA Playbook coming soon....

want to help(Thursday, November 06 14 03:25 pm EST)

The way the FAA is validating the biographical questionnaire is not even valid, the way I was told it was going to work is that CPCs and CPCs-IT will answer the biographical questions (over 260
questions) and then supervisors will rate the CPCs and CPCs-IT, APT Metrics will compare the ratings of the CPCs and CPCs-IT to the way they questioned the questions to come up with a way of how to
validate the BQ. If two CPCs answer the questions with the same answers but their supervisor rates one as a great controller and the other as an awful controller how can the BQ be validated.

MINIMUM ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS: (A) Not more than two separate incidents involving Federal aviation regulations violations in the last 5 years; (B) Valid State driver's license; (C) Fluency in the
English language; (D) No chemical dependencies or drug abuse that could interfere with job performance; and (E) High school diploma or equivalent.

MEDICAL REQUIREMENTS: Applicants for positions that require participation in the operation of aircraft MUST possess a valid second-class medical certificate in accordance with Federal Aviation Agency
(FAA) regulations and pass recurrent medical examinations as prescribed by the FAA.

SPECIALIZED EXPERIENCE, TRAINING, AND CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS: To qualify for this position you must demonstrate in your application that you possess at least one year of specialized experience
equivalent to the next lower level in the Federal Service. Specialized experience is experience that has equipped you with the particular knowledge, skills, and abilities to perform successfully the
duties of the position. Applicants should include examples of specialized experience in their work history.

In addition, applicants MUST meet all of the following: (A) At least 1 year of pilot experience in multi-engine aircraft of more than 12,500 pounds maximum certificated takeoff weight; (B) Not more
than 2 flying accidents during the last 5 years in which the applicant's pilot error was involved; (C) Professional flying skill as demonstrated in a simulator check to Airline Transport Pilot
Standard; (D) Minimum 100 flight hours during the last 3 years; (E) Airline Transport Pilot Certificate or Commercial Pilot Certificate with instrument airplane rating; and (F) minimum 1,500 total
flight hours.
Evaluation Criteria

j. lewis(Wednesday, September 10 14 01:07 pm EDT)

Check out more FAA Air Traffic "Successes" in the DOT IG report dated 08.14.2014 Management Advisory on Weaknesses with Site-Specific Deployment Requirements and Specialist Training for STARS.

Does the FAA still avoid answering any questions involving their reports that show an indisputable advantage of hiring CTI/WQ applicants?
(Yes)

Do FAA shills tout that you either have what it takes or don't to be a controller
(Yes)

Note: No matter how much anecdotal evidence you want to cite...CTI graduates succeed at a much higher rate despite it not being adjusted for first facility difficulty, hmmm CTI's were challenged more
because they were deemed able to handle it and less likely to fail. Also FAA please tell us about the success rate of the ELITE CTI schools versus off the street, we could use another chuckle.

Another argument we see your minions using is that the FAA used to always hire off the street....like when resumes were actually reviewed, there wasn't an option to go to CTI school, and the academy
had rigorous standards. This of course well before the kids from Riddle, Beaver, Purdue, UND, etc. were running up the score. Hey FAA is your next move really going to be touting that some students
couldn't afford a student loan to a community college?

Newsflash: us graduates of all genders, races, and financial situations couldn't either but we were willing to do whatever it took. Students moving far from home, accruing debt, working for minimum
wage, or working multiple jobs WHILE attending CTI programs.

Is FAAMA against the FAA's hiring procedures? (Yes)

Was someone with 35 procedural errors on the AT-SAT referred for hiring? (Yes)

Have high ranking FAA officials been told by current CPC's, supervisors, and management that they made a colossal mistake with the last round of hiring? (Yes)

Does the FAA require highly specialized aviation related experience for an ATA (Air Traffic Assistant, subordinate to a controller) who gives ZERO control instructions (Yes)

Could the FAA hire all wronged previously well-qualified CTI students and shore up hiring for the foreseeable future? (Yes)

Has Joe Teixeira lost numerous EEO complaints? (Yes)

Did the FAA stop hiring off the street candidates because they "just weren't working out" and didn't allow them to apply to any new bids in 2010 and 2011?
(Yes, Pubnat 8 was 2009. They hired from that list in fall 2010/Spring 2011)

Do many of the FAA higher ups have higher education (Yes, including but not limited to Teixeira, Bristol, Harris, Huerta....)

Came to United States in 1998; escaped war and wanted to become an ATC since junior in HIGH SCHOOL. Convinced parents of the "American Dream" and to take out STUDENT LOANS from banks to go to ERAU.
Now, 5 years later - over 98% AT-SAT WQ (had to retake twice because it expired). Almost all STUDENT LOANS in collections and struggling to understand what I did wrong. Very misleading from the FAA
and shattered my dreams.

The last public hiring was in 2009. They gave AT-SAT's that fall. They would go on to look at these candidates fall 2010 and spring 2011.

Where was all the public hire bids in 2010 and 2011? Their was no reason for them to bring them back since the CTI schools were growing and between them and VRA's they would crank out enough well
qualified applicants. Public hires were supposed to be a last resort if the well was dry. FAA was constantly culling data on CTI's vs OTS, WQ vs Q etc. They saw they correlation and it kept growing.
The amount of CTI schools were hitting a pinnacle.

"Better qualified" candidates....so better the FAA didn't want them for years.

FAA shills still can be found defending the agency saying (paraphrased) I have seen OTS pass and ex-military wash out.

The next time you see this yarn spun on sites such as stuck mic kindly point that out as anecdotal evidence. The FAA has the data available to source already saying there is a strong correlation of
success with CTI's and WQ scores against a large sample size. Why do you think they moved away from hiring OTS in the first place? "They just weren't' working out"

Greco's statements are purely textbook public relations. You would never hear the claim be "35% of our hires have ZERO collegiate, military, or aviation experience." Thanks though, we'll say that for
you.

When providing Congress and the media information present them factual information that's sourced and not conjecture. Ask them to have the FAA address specific information and not allow them to give
general prepared statements where they can isolate statistics to skew viewpoints.

CTI Student(Tuesday, August 05 14 01:39 am EDT)

Re: Herman Munster - actually I did notice the resemblance. The only thing missing were those electrodes sticking out of her neck.

[Applicants with controller training in college programs “did very well,’’ FAA spokeswoman Kristie Greco said, pointing to the 754 jobs offered to air-traffic control students and
graduates....]

What about the countless elite CTI students passing the only validated ATC exam (with historical data to back it up), the military members with CTO's issued from your agency, and the CPC's who
collect their FAA paycheck that your agency told "didn't have what it takes." That's right 30 year CPC's working the busiest skies in the world were "rejected" by a sham test en masse.

Don't softball the FAA any questions and urge the media not to either. Make them dispute statements or facts and source it. See the below article, notice the FAA was happy to present their side by
skewing stats.

There are reports from Daniel Webster college cti grads that they are failing on there last graded, the problems are not recorded, instructor are taking off points if you do a pointout and the
instructor thought that another pointout should have been done first even if there was no airspace violation.

Herman Munster(Saturday, August 02 14 05:13 am EDT)

Did anyone notice the family resemblance of the corrupt co-conspiriter from Tetra to mine.

Full steam ahead. Fully backed by the big C. Bostick. First TOLs going out today.... even though it's a weekend. doing it while many in HR arent even there! HR sticking by big Joe 100%. Congress only
asking for CTI to still be considered in future... not placed. Weak Sauce. Lawsuit has big hole in it.

internal(Thursday, June 26 14 07:38 pm EDT)

Right now they may be leaning toward not restoring CTI, as it would invalidate BQ. Looks like no way around it from legal standpoint. Many CTI failed it. How can FAA let them in and not others who
failed BQ who are OTHERWISE QUALIFIED... especially reinstatement bidders, and first time VETERAN applicants eliminated only by a "bad BQ" (which it would be if they let some people in that failed
it).

So... full steam ahead for new Feb 14 hires. Pre TOL emails sent out to try to appease all the phone calls it looks like, but full steam ahead.

Gonna be tough to restore CTI and still claim BQ was valid.

internal(Wednesday, June 25 14 01:31 am EDT)

ossible holdup is some of the EEO lawsuits. Minority cases brought up even before the Barrier Analysis... big NBCFAE influence.., some VRA first time applicants deemed ineligible by BQ... and some
Age Discrimination cases too... Age cases by former older FAA ATC employees, both older CPC and even former FSS guys. FAA does not want them, even used BQ to eliminate them with FSS question. Most
are really old. FAA trying to figure out how to do this, and still say BQ was valid, when it was not. They do not want former CPC, and especially ancient FSS. They want to quietly restore CTI, and
relieve political pressure, and not give in to complaints from VRA, age, minority, etc. May be more news imminently.

CTI UNITED(Tuesday, June 24 14 03:18 pm EDT)

Internal - This shouldn't be their primary concern.

I'd allow all those OTS a chance to re-apply (even if they turned 31) but the caveat being they aren't allowed to jump any CTI/VRA from the 2012 pipeline.

Take the 1% from that and funnel them in with the rest of us and be done with OTS hiring for a minimum of 6 years.

CTI UNITED(Tuesday, June 24 14 12:28 pm EDT)

Easiest way to do this.

Everyone in the old pipeline from 2012 is given a TOL. Academy dates go in order from oldest applicants to youngest. Everyone's age should be frozen so no one times out.

Do the right thing FAA.

internal(Tuesday, June 24 14 05:24 am EDT)

One of the main issues now is if they reinstate the CTIs that were purged, that would show the BQ was invalid... which you have been saying all along. But what to do with the other "20,000 plus" non
CTI that failed the invalid BQ? This is being discussed intensely... but may not be able to purge list without other consequences. Many were eliminated from this bid by an invalid test. The CTIs were
previously qualified while all the rest were not. What to do with those who were not previously qualified is the question.

J. Lewis(Saturday, June 21 14 06:40 pm EDT)

Joseph's pathological lying is part of the profile of a classic sociopath. Look it up. I am not alone in this observation and opinion.

Prince(Monday, June 16 14 03:37 pm EDT)

How come the Senate and Congress haven’t cited the CTI domination of the OTS applicants historically? All CTI graduates please include this in your correspondence with the applicable sources when you
write our honorable officials.

accompanying the Senate version of the FY2015 Transportation, Housing, & Urban Development (THUD) appropriations bill, S.2438

FAA's New Process for Hiring Air Traffic Controllers.--This
past December, the FAA announced that it would begin hiring
additional air traffic controllers, and that it would use an
entirely new process to fill those positions. Among its
changes, the FAA decided that it would start a new competition,
no longer using the list or ``inventory'' of candidates that
the agency had reviewed from prior job announcements; it would
open the competition to the general public, whereas the agency
had traditionally targeted its announcements to veterans or
graduates of schools designed by the FAA as Collegiate Training
Institutes [CTI]; and it would start using a new tool called
the biographical questionnaire to screen its candidates.
The Committee understands that the FAA's new hiring
policies are necessary to address important shortcomings in the
way the agency had been hiring air traffic controllers. The old
process did not appropriately apply veterans' preference law,
and it raised barriers against the FAA's ability to hire a
diverse group of new air traffic controllers. The Committee
agrees that the FAA, as an agency of the Federal Government,
should ensure that its hiring processes are open and fair for
everyone.
However, the FAA managed the change to its hiring process
poorly. For many, the FAA's announcement was unexpected and
came suddenly. The FAA had dedicated several years to research
and development for the new hiring process, and the agency had
reached out to a variety of stakeholder groups who could help
inform its decisions. Even so, as valuable as this effort was,
the FAA never reached out to key participants in the aviation
community, including controller candidates and CTI schools.
Instead, the FAA announced its decision in the middle of a
school year, issued its next job announcement immediately, and
caused confusion among the very people who needed to navigate
the new process.
Furthermore, significant questions have been raised now
that the FAA has conducted the biographical questionnaire for
the first time. According to the National Air Traffic
Controllers Association, who worked closely with the FAA in
developing its new hiring process, the agency had expected
about 30 percent of its candidates to advance beyond the
biographical questionnaire. Yet, less than 8 percent have
advanced beyond the questionnaire this year. Candidates who had
applied for a controller position through a previous job
announcement, taken the FAA's technical skills test, and been
told that they were considered ``well qualified,'' now find
themselves being screened out by the biographical
questionnaire. They are shaken by this experience because they
feel that they had already proven their technical abilities,
but they are now being screened out by a questionnaire that
asks them, for example, to decide if other people would
describe them as a person with great ``drive'' or great
``persistence.''
The FAA has placed great confidence in its new hiring
process, arguing that it will lead to more open and fair
competition. The Committee, however, is concerned that
confusion about the new process and the role of the
biographical questionnaire has detracted from this year's
recruiting effort.
The Committee has included a new provision in its bill
language to ensure that the FAA's new hiring process truly
gives every applicant the ability to compete openly and fairly
for a job as an air traffic controller. This year's process may
have been marked by confusion, but the Committee believes that
applicants should be held harmless from the FAA's inability to
manage the transition to the new hiring process. The bill
clarifies that any person who held a position on the FAA's
``inventory'' of qualified candidates from previous job
announcements can apply for a position as an air traffic
controller during fiscal year 2015, even if they turned 31
years old and aged out of the process during this past year.
In addition, the Committee expects that in the future FAA
will consider its partnership with CTI schools more seriously,
and invite their input when contemplating significant policy
changes that would affect their students.

And from the text of the bill itself, under Operations in the FAA section

Provided further, That none of the funds
provided in this Act may be used for the Federal Aviation
Administration to issue a job announcement for air traffic control
specialists that renders ineligible any applicant who had been included
in the air traffic control specialist applicant inventory as of January
15, 2014, and who was born between February 9, 1983 and October 1,
1984.

West Coast CTI(Tuesday, June 03 14 11:40 pm EDT)

That was an incredible job with the last article keep hitting them with the stubborn FACTS listed on the front page of this site. Show the media and Congress the FAA's own reports and words.

The FAA can't refute anything, and won't even try to. The reporter did a tremendous job of pointing out the FAA was evasive and deceptive. THESE ARE TACTICS IN THE FAA "PLAYBOOK".

[The FAA declined to be interviewed. Instead, FAA management crafted a general statement that clearly avoided answering any of Ferrugia’s questions.]

^What....no coaching?

From wikipedia: (I'm sure they took notes)

[Question dodging is the intentional avoidance of answering a question.

This may happen when the person questioned either does not know the answer and wants to avoid embarrassment, or when the person is being interrogated or questioned in debate, and wants to avoid
giving a direct response.]

Keep stalling...the tough questions are coming (and we are already preparing the rebuttals with sources for any assertion you want to make).

Please god protect our skies(Saturday, May 31 14 03:04 pm EDT)

Just want to draw your attention to a post on stuckmic, http://www.stuckmic.com/atsat-information/25974-taken-atsat-2014-a-5.html. I thought I finally found the first person to fail the ATSAT, this
particular individual had 35 procedural errors on the scenarios, much to my dismay, several comments later, he was referred. Bravo FAA.

FAA insider(Thursday, May 29 14 09:22 pm EDT)

I'd like to remain confidential, see what else you have heard on the following:

The FAA was planning on smoke screening the AT-SAT scores all along. Here's why...They KNEW any of the CTI/VRA's that passed the Bio-Q were likely taking the test for the 2nd time at minimum, thus
inflating their score. Huerta knew this and countered before the CTI students could. If the CTI's challenged the FAA on AT-SAT's under the old scoring system (since its the only valid predictor) they
would show a bigger margin than ever for this reason alone.

Also, I think the CTI grads and Congress are going down the wrong path on the BIO-Q. Getting a score or the passing number will do little to help exterminate the test. This still gives you zero idea
what they are looking for and your still heavily outmatched.

The FAA knows this as well and may compromise this without a fight. IMO, the questions regarding aviation experience were weighted the same as all others. So even if 3,000 CTI students started up a
couple points with this factored in, the randomness of the other questions and the sheer volume of a 6 to 1 ratio of OTS vs all others assured that many OTS would get in off of variance alone. This
mitigated the CTI/VRA advantage and allowed the FAA to push their agenda. When the screwjob happens again in the fall the FAA will say hey we gave them the scores and the passing marks.

The FAA wants to give a TOL to everyone because they think its less likely someone who was denied will get upset and leak what they put for their answers.

Greco is being deceptive. This is key when asking the FAA questions they like to use words like virtually. This is the type of verbiage the FAA will use (expect it from Huerta). Present them with a
fact and make them dispute it (they can't and won't)

Go read page 13 of the PDF on

The Utility of the Air Traffic Selection
and Training Test Battery in Hiring
Graduates of an Air Traffic-Collegiate
Training Initiative Program.

Right there...CTI better than OTS. This didn't even account for the fact CTI students were getting more difficult facilities. CTI beat out OTS at the academy and first facility and the preference was
deemed warranted. Don't let the FAA shills on the internet tell you its close either. The high level facilities are chock full of CTI grads and ex-military controllers.

Also the FAA has the data isolated from the elite CTI schools vs OTS and its a complete blowout. Riddle, UND, UAA, Beaver, etc. The FAA always "forgets" about this when comparing CTI to OTS.

[The drag on the CTI average is partially from the lower tiered CTI schools who haven't been around as long.]

I am a reporter in Denver. Looking to connect with a female vet in Colorado with ATC-related military experience who was NOT hired after applying for FAA position. Seems many vets are being passed
over for some applicants with no CTI and no experience.
Please Email: john. ferrugia@kmgh.com

J Lewis(Sunday, May 18 14 12:53 pm EDT)

The decision for off the street hiring is not fiscally sound or logical. Plus it is just not the right way to treat people.

What do you expect from those that are not controllers - Huerta, Bristol, Teixeira and Kalinowski. Then there are those that never could keep two airplanes apart - Lynn Ray, Terry Biggio, Tim Arel
and Dirty Dave Boone. Biggio and McCormick - what happened to you two since 9/11?

If the VA was not such a scandal you would all be front page news. You all have the morals of those in the VA who hide the numbers that show the real story.

“These are not just students or individuals who are interested in a job; they’re interested in a career,” LoBiondo said. “When we’re facing an air traffic controller shortage, this isn’t about a
bureaucrat who’s going to sign off on a wheat deal to Bulgaria or something; this is about air safety — it’s about having the best and the brightest.”

*Rich Ducharme recognizing CTI students and noted the important role they will play in taking the agency further* (2012)

Go see Joey and Mary discuss "Safety in the Digital Age: Evolving Safety to Address the Complexities of NextGen"

The jokes write themselves.

political contributions(Wednesday, May 14 14 03:46 pm EDT)

Find out who gave what money to who

http://www.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/norindsea.shtml

College time(Saturday, May 10 14 06:29 pm EDT)

Hmmm......

Teixeira - SUNY/London City Univ.

Bristol - Univ. of Maryland

Huerta - UC Riverside/Princeton

Harris - U. of Michigan

Johnny Baseball(Wednesday, May 07 14 01:35 pm EDT)

Guaranteed a job? What a disgrace. Guess that person with a DUI is having it swept under the rug.

Apply pressure(Wednesday, May 07 14 01:29 pm EDT)

You think the AT-SAT bar is being set low just you wait until they all get to the academy. Rest assured the FAA will push them right through to their facility, anything to justify this BIO-Q. This
has been the plan from the jump. A few people have reported already the OTS are easily identifiable during AT-SAT testing, scared and clueless.

They will keep this charade up as long as possible and delay all the way. Just check their "playbook"....CTI grads and VRA's need to keep pressure on them daily, the FAA wants this to all go away.
Good news is many of Joey's” buddies” as well as current CPC's from front line controllers to supervisors to management (not the FAA shills who parade around to defend them on the internet, or show
up at facilities with their pre-planned responses) are already volunteering to testify against the new changes on behalf of all CTI and VRA's. The data already exists and backs up the CTI/VRA
preference; anything else is fraud, waste, and abuse. AT-SAT re-testing another huge taxpayer waste.

Notice the FAA already distancing themselves from the laughable diversity claim to the better qualified candidate non-sense, since the list of great minority candidates from the CTI/VRA pipeline who
were screwed is quite “robust”.

Go re-read the coaching e-mail sent out. It's good for a laugh. The facts are completely devoid; it’s full of opinions and things that can’t be substantiated.

Many of the actual questions asked to FAA officials were completely avoided in both person and e-mail, (they weren’t prepared/coached for that question or their response was rebutted) completely
skirting what was really asked (and trust me those asking are much smarter and weren’t tossing softball questions like the FAA would you have believe). The FAA won't answer a question when their own
data has contradicted what they said (and if they do they embarrass themselves, a win-win!); go try it, its fun!

The other poster on here is right. The FAA needs to be pinned down with yes/no questions. They would love to waste time to talk in circles. Arm your FAA oversight committee, Senate, and House
representatives with facts and sources. The FAA has no answer for these.

If I'm a vet (or have a stable job) I'm miffed at why the bio-q asked how many job applications we put in. If they based it off current or former CPC's (did they?) why would any of them actively
employed with the FAA be seeking employment else where?

Many people close to Teixeira know (and confirm) the ordeals with Tetratech and the CTI purging. I want to know why everyone in DC is so afraid to get in front of this story. Do they really want to
be on C-SPAN spinning through a rolodex of canned excuses about "better qualified candidates"? How is he still employed?! Maybe there hasn't been enough pressured applied they are happy to play stall
ball. They're like a basketball team down 20 who still is fouling with 15 seconds left. Anything to extend the game huh? I really want to know if they plan on being surprised or just ducking any
questions that come their way.

Surely a lot of looking the other way going on, it's a shame.

anon@aji(Thursday, May 01 14 06:39 pm EDT)

Runway Safety debacle is an interesting side show.

J Lewis(Thursday, May 01 14 02:56 pm EDT)

PJ has a long history of trashing those who will not lie for him. Other VPs just tell their people to watch their backs, then sacrifice their people when PJ comes after them. PJ has lied to the
investigators and attorneys. Shame on Ms. Bristol and Mr. Huerta for protecting him. Shame on the VPs for supporting him. Shame on the Juggalos for lying for him or repeating his lies.

CTI Student(Sunday, April 20 14 12:04 am EDT)

Good point Marcus. Why is an Air Force controller qualified to handle a Presidential movement (Air Force 1) but is not qualified to work for the FAA ? It's because the brainiacs in HR do not screen
AF candidates for USAF ATC school. Thank God.

Marcus Harper(Friday, April 18 14 03:19 pm EDT)

We should urge our congressmen and Senators to ask the FAA yes/no questions so the FAA avoids talking in circles and dodging the questions. Follow up with the why questions at the end.

Were high school dropouts allowed to apply? (YES)

Did an FAA's own study say CTI grads warranted a preference over OTS hires because they were succeeding more and failing less at OKC and their first facility? (YES)

Did the majority of current CPC's fail this test? (YES)

Were elite CTI graduates passed over? (YES, show them the sampling of the qualifications posted already on here)

Were those selected (who already had well-qualified scores) forced to re-take the AT-SAT at the taxpayers expense? (Yes)

Was the CTI list purged? (Yes)

Were many military controllers disqualified off this biographical assessment? (Yes) Did the FAA issue many of them CTO's? (Yes)

Is NATCA against this change in hiring and baffled by it? (Yes)

Did the FAA tell people as late as October 2013 on their website the only way to become a controller was CTI or military despite having a change in plans in the works for months? (Yes)

Was the biographical assessment deemed worthless to predict training success in November of 2013? (Yes)

Were resumes looked at prior to disqualifying applicants (No)

I can't wait until some FAA stooge (hopefully Joey) gets up there in front of Congress and gives their best Porky Pig impression.

Will Joey go Sammy Sosa? Forgetting how to speak english....

Maybe he'll go McGwire.... "I'm not here to talk about the past".

Come on Joey, you saw how Senator Murray grilled Foxx, you want no part of that. No amount of talking in circles about diversity or whatever your being "coached" to say will help.

Carlos(Thursday, April 17 14 10:35 pm EDT)

Hey guys, I feel the discrimination pain of the Veteran CTI student whose story you posted today as well. I know this is a site geared toward the CTI demographic, but to piggy-back on the Veteran
issue, I've applied to the FAA for RMC bids since '09 and have been turned-down each and every time, and I know it's not because of my resume. I have two CTO's, 6 radar (including CERAP) facility
certifications (which include stupid busy fighter bases and places where Part 91, 121 & 135 ops were 90% of the traffic) both domestically and internationally, along with two combat deployments
(not counting "contingency" deployments). I've been a certificated pilot since '01, have 500+ hours of PIC time, hold an FAA Class II with no restrictions, was a lead rep for the FAAST (FAA Safety
Team), have an AAS in ATC, a BS from Embry-Riddle in Professional Aeronautics, a Master's Degree in Commercial Aviation, and am a disabled Vet with 10 points preference. Oh, I'm also an Assistant
Professor of ATC at a CTI college. Thought you might like to know my little discrimination story.

internal(Saturday, April 12 14 01:07 pm EDT)

This is from ain internal FAA Human Factors newletter posted 11/15/2013. It pretty much admits that looking back, biodata was useless in predicting training success. The only thing that was reliable
to use was somones age, inversely... meaning the older they are, the less likely they are to succeed. Dana Broach is one of the contributors to these findings, just a couple of months before the BQ
test...

Abstract: Biodata factors were examined as predictors of trainingperformance for candidate air traffic control specialists (ATCSs). Thesefactors, which have been shown to predict controller
training performance inprevious research, were highest educational degree achieved, grade pointaverage both in high school overall and in high school mathematics courses,aviation operations
experience, pilot certificates held, and age. Results fromlogistic regression analyses were only partially supportive of previousresearch. Age was the most consistent (inverse) predictor of training
success.Most of the other factors did not predict training success. Differences betweenthese results and previous research might be attributed to differences in thecriterion measures, samples, and
generational differences. Overall, theevidence for using the assessed biodata factors for selection was weak. Researcherssuggested that a new biodata instrument be developed to assess and
identifyexperiences to predict performance of the next generation of controllers.

jeff smith(Friday, April 11 14 06:09 pm EDT)

Interesting. Some of this is so true, some over the top. But the part that is true is just scratching the surface. If the news was not so saturated with Obamacare, IRS scandals, and lost 777s, this
would be front and center in the investigative news. Joseph's responses to the IG, supported by Mr. Foushee are pure fiction writing. Unfortunately, the other VPs are less competent than Mr. Teixeira
but not nearly as active with their blatant abuse of power.

Leaving MTSU(Tuesday, April 08 14 11:50 pm EDT)

I am an MTSU AT-CTI student and this information above is shocking to me. We've been told that the school is trying to get the FAA to reconsider their recent decision to stop hiring CTI students. Now
I find out MTSU is trying to create a business relationship with the FAA to train future new hires (OTS?). That's nice. What about us students who have paid our tuition to MTSU to get the CTI
training? I guess the current students mean nothing to MTSU. It's all about money.

Marcus Harper(Thursday, April 03 14 09:11 pm EDT)

One of the fears confessed by the powers that be is that the answer key eventually spring a leak by someone disgruntled and/or be figured out.

kerry swanson(Thursday, April 03 14 02:24 pm EDT)

RE the BQ.... I'd like to PUBLICLY ask the FAA how ATC experience, or Flight Service experience was rated... did ATC experience help our score or hurt our score in this assessment?

Did Flight Service time help or hurt their scores?

Did having a full time job for the last three years help or hurt?

Presently or in the past have developers of the BQ considered age as a major factor in predicting training success?

Please get a copy of the memo from ATO-1 that mentions how HR officials should answer questions.

Thanks

Arthur Treacher(Wednesday, April 02 14 02:50 pm EDT)

Look for the FAA to come out and say they will give CTI students more consideration next go round per internal discussions. This is a bluff by the agency and nothing more than a public relations move
to quell the masses until they prove otherwise. Remember they tried damage control on the first telecon, saying aviation experience would be considered. Upper management will scramble for a fall guy
if they haven't already.

Arthur Treacher(Thursday, March 27 14 05:53 pm EDT)

The FAA people have already been coached with responses to any of the facts brought forth by the CTI/VRA's. Their arms must be getting tired from carrying all the FAA's water.

If you notice there are many individuals that run rampant on forums such as "stuck mic" who will always tell people to "Stop complaining" in every post, cite alleged anecdotal experience, avoid
responding to anything factual, cherry pick what they respond to, stick up for the agency at every turn, and can never refute anything with documentation.

Also forgot to say everyone may want to learn about the court case of Ryan V. Mineta where "Mr. Ryan has proved in a court of law that the FAA's racial-quota hiring policies illegally discriminated
against him and he won a very substantial settlement."

http://www.adversity.net/FAA/ryan_v_mineta.htm

Johnny Gomez(Monday, March 24 14 02:32 am EDT)

First and foremost - thank you! For exposing the FAA corruption and bringing any and all pressure onto "Joey Tex" and his boys. There are currently many FAA employees on sites such as "stuckmic" who
stick up for the Bio-Q. Also someone with a TOL had it revoked because they published the already public BIO-Q questions online. Someone who attempted to collect all the BIO-Q results of fails vs
passes was allegedly contacted to not disseminate that information.

Can you direct others to where they can send thank you letters/donations to Senators McCaskill and Murrary?

I read the Bio-Q disqualified a current CPC at ZOB. He went back to position and laughed he wasn't "FAA worthy". Not to mention the numerous people who have tower ratings (from the FAA) who were
denied.

The rejection of the BA is actually in the document (page 155). Google "FAA barrier analysis".

"The barrier analysis was underway for several years and, due to a variety of
circumstances, the final product was rendered unacceptable. It did not meet the needs
of Federal Aviation Administration and/or the other stakeholders."

kerry swanson(Saturday, March 22 14 11:39 pm EDT)

I have a question about the Barrier Analysis... you've mentioned that the FAA has rejected it in its entirety.

I have not seen any reference to that. It seems they changed their hiring plan because of it, even though they claim it had nothing to do with the Barrier Analysis.

Is there any reference to them rejecting the findings of the BA?

FAA HQ Lifer(Saturday, March 22 14 02:33 pm EDT)

I agree keep it up. Joseph trys to destroy people who tell him he can't do things. Good people are starting to call his bluff the last few weeks. on the 10th floor- rumor is he's done.

Jon(Saturday, March 22 14 01:57 pm EDT)

Thanks so much guys, this website is our only voice against the wide scale corruption within the FAA. Keep up the good work. Eye of the tiger!!

Twitter?

CTI versus GENERAL PUBLIC APPLICANTS:

There were a
total of 964 new hires… who entered training at an air traffic control facility….

Of
those,CTI hiresattained CPC status from their first facility at a rate of74.6%...

followed
byMilitary at 70.3%...

andGeneral Publicat a rate of44.7%...

CTI and Militaryattained first facility CPC status at a nearly65% greater ratethan General Public.

Source:FAA New Hire Training Performance Semi-Annual Report.

_______________________ “…Overall, a larger proportion of CTI trainees were successful and a smaller
proportion unsuccessful than GP trainees…Simply based on training performance, a preference for CTI graduates over GP applicants at both en route and terminal facilities seems
warranted….”

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aware of this fact, yet due to alleged discrimination, that their own studies disprove, the FAA has effectively eliminated the CTI/ Veteran special hiring pool.

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Oh where oh where has Juggalo CHRIS METTS gone, oh where oh where could he be…

After recusing himself for channeling Juggalo money to Tetra and others,Chris Mettsgoes DEEP DEEP UNDERCOVER(that’s for you PJ because we know you get off pretending to be a spy- we know the real story Pinnochijoe)trying to distance himself from the Juggalos.

NOTE TO
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