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I haven't looked at the maps posted at Maybury in a while, but I always find it helpful when riding unfamiliar trails if the maps clearly mark your present location - something like "you are here". It can sometimes get confusing on twisty trails or ones with many intersections (which isn't an issue at Maybury of course) to know where you are on the map.

IronMike wrote:We need a clear left arrow titled: "Main Trail" and a clear right arrow titled:"Alternate Trail (does not return to Main Trail Head)".

This would make it clear at a glance that you should probably go left, and curious beginners may choose to stop and learn what this "Alternate Trail" is all about. I'd avoid the term "shortcut", which sounds attractive to beginners since it implies a shorter way to the "end" which it is not.

Agreed, a simple "trail head" and an arrow, and a "re loop" or whatever arrow the other way

IronMike wrote: I'd avoid the term "shortcut", which sounds attractive to beginners since it implies a shorter way to the "end" which it is not.

Agree about avoiding "Shortcut". I'll post up a new thread with any proposed changes for comment.

Thanks to everyone that's made suggestions and provided feedback. We don't have many formal feedback mechanisms, so these anecdotal stories are useful to get a qualitative idea of what's happening on the trail.

IronMike wrote:Before I started, a rider coming off the trail warned me there was a low branch to watch out for. I saw no downed trees or branches, so I assume he was referring to the usual "duck points". The caution tape is gone from tricky tepee near the end, but duck there anyways.

A week or so ago there was what some would consider a "low branch" right at the beginning of the high speed section just before the second paved path crossing (where the rest hut is). For us taller guys, the branch is (was?) a serious issue as it could cause some major bodily harm to someone not looking far enough ahead. The high speed that I and many others typically carry there means that if you don't notice it in time you will not have enough time & space to duck/break and avoid the branch. Maybe it's been removed since I saw it, but if not, this very well may be what he/she was referring to.

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bentmettle wrote:Agree about avoiding "Shortcut". I'll post up a new thread with any proposed changes for comment.

Thanks to everyone that's made suggestions and provided feedback. We don't have many formal feedback mechanisms, so these anecdotal stories are useful to get a qualitative idea of what's happening on the trail.

I first rode the trail three seasons ago and when my riding partner and I approached what we call the "B" loop cut-out we started up the trail toward what we know now as the winter trailhead. We quickly realized something was wrong and went back to the split. Fortunately a more seasoned rider set us straight.

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I'm in the parking lot now and it seems there's a lot of bike carriers here. But the group coming off right now is covered in mud. They said it's no problem riding through the puddles on the straight sections, just watch for the muddy corners. I am going to try Hickory Glen.

I was on it today. Pretty wet-holding in lots of puddles. It could use a day or so to dry out. There was also a tree down across the trail between 4.25 and 4.75 sign Somewhere just after the wooden "A" frame jump and before the rock piles-if that makes sense. I did my best impression of "I pick things up and put them down." But it was too much for me. needs a chain saw or 2 tough guys/gals

We rode at Addison Oaks today and just to let others know, that trail had NO mud and NO standing water at all after the recent rain. That trail has had so much work done to it that it drains better than any other trail and man is it fun to ride. WE love the flow of that trail and always enjoy riding there. Give it a try if you haven't been there.