so, what's your take on NE not giving welker more money? figured they gave brady nuts and crackers, so that they can pay a little more for other players?

i think not re-signing welker would leave a pretty large hole.

first thoughts are...damn!!!! but you know what, I've felt that way many times before with this team and it's always gone their way so....
I felt the same way with these guys, Ty Law, Seymour, Deion Branch, Mcginnest, Malloy, Samuel.....and I'm probably forgetting a few, honestly, those guys were just mediocre at best after leaving.

I think they'll slide Edelman into his position and probably not skip a beat, they do need to add a player though at the position.

The Lions and Seattle traded DE. Jason Jones went to the Lions and Cliff Avril went to the Sea Hawks. Avril will be in the QB face or out the Qb on his back frequently. This should make Steve Dallas ans Ladybugsmom happy. With Percy Harven and Avril they should at least get to the super bowl
I wander If Avril got the 10 plus million that he was wanting from Detroit

The Lions and Seattle traded DE. Jason Jones went to the Lions and Cliff Avril went to the Sea Hawks. Avril will be in the QB face or out the Qb on his back frequently. This should make Steve Dallas ans Ladybugsmom happy. With Percy Harven and Avril they should at least get to the super bowl
I wander If Avril got the 10 plus million that he was wanting from Detroit

A push? You're really kidding yourself on that one. How can you compare a player who is a guaranteed 100 catches, 1000 yards with Danny freaking amendola?

Welker does lose on the age category, but blows him away everywhere else. Very interested to see how Brady does without his safety blanket as those two have been the only mainstays for the past 5 or 6 years

A push? You're really kidding yourself on that one. How can you compare a player who is a guaranteed 100 catches, 1000 yards with Danny freaking amendola?

Welker does lose on the age category, but blows him away everywhere else. Very interested to see how Brady does without his safety blanket as those two have been the only mainstays for the past 5 or 6 years

1...his 100 catches & yards were from Brady,
2- same exact type of player
3- age
4- speed
5- Brady will get Amendola the ball just like he did Welker

staying on the field is my only concern...... by the way, hows that dismantling coming

In Detroit he was wanting to be the top paid DE in the NFL. Detroit did not the money for him because enterin Fa they was only 3 mill under cap. Suh redid is contrack so they could get Bush Quin and Jones

1...his 100 catches & yards were from Brady,
2- same exact type of player
3- age
4- speed
5- Brady will get Amendola the ball just like he did Welker

staying on the field is my only concern......

You can't blame all of Welkers success on Brady. Brady wasn't the one who always managed to get open on crucial third downs or picked up crazy amounts of YAC on screen passes from behind the line of scrimmage. Welker has been a beast in his own right.

Meanwhile, you're paying more annually for a total of 5(?) seasons for a player who has never even had a 700 yard season. You look at his career numbers (1700 yards, 7 TDs) and that's something Welker could put up in ONE season and almost did in 2011. There is no way Amendola and Brady can work up a rapport to match that which he had with Welker, and while you can't put any tangible number on that relationship, it has got to count for something.

If it were me and keeping Welker wasn't an option, I probably would start to use Hernandez in more of a WR role while allowing Lloyd to become the #1. Gronk would obv still be a major threat from the TE spot with Ballard filling in on the two TE sets.

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by the way, hows that dismantling coming

I'm not too concerned. Pollard is the only one that has me scratching my head.

Kruger and Ellerbe both got overpaid and I'm glad we didn't sign either one. They've combined for 20 starts in the teams last 65 games, so that speaks to how "integral" they are. Kruger, in particular, was just a role player. 2 down linebacker only used in pass rush situations who is being paid like a pro bowler now. He was really only effective once Suggs came back and took most of the attention, so I don't see him as a #1 option for pass rush.

Boldin is old, can't get separation, and has never had a thousand yard season for us. Losing him hurts on the surface, but in reality, he hasn't been a #1 WR since he left AZ, and even then he was their #2.

We had a similar exodus of key players a few seasons ago when we let go Heap and Mason - Spent the next five years in the playoffs. Have always lost "key" defensive players - where are Bart Scott, Ed Hartwell, Dawan Landry, Kik Herring and Adalius Thomas now?

Front office has a plan. Don't know what it is yet, but it will unfold in the coming months. And no matter what, that Super Bowl trophy can keep us warm until September when everything starts up again.

as far as the dolphins "over spending"...i like how people keep saying that about the dolphins, about Wallace, yet no one is saying the seahawks overspent for Harvin. contracts are similar, but miami didn't have to give up any picks...

as far as Wheeler and Ellerbe, They are getting less than Dansby and Burnett. They are younger, faster, and the number 2 and 3 Blitzing LBer's in the NFL right now (PFF)

Fins spending money like the marlins last year (prediction: same result will befall the fins like the marlins)

Bills are........the bills!

And jets are butt fumbling their way through free agency and the revis situation.

Just figured I let you guys know I am alive and kicking. Just been super busy dealing with everyday life still trying to get a camaro back in my garage.

Oh and ravens won it all! Congrats irock. Who would have thunk it!

Missed you this season....

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It's only going to get worse as the season approaches.

Can't wait

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You can't blame all of Welkers success on Brady. Brady wasn't the one who always managed to get open on crucial third downs or picked up crazy amounts of YAC on screen passes from behind the line of scrimmage. Welker has been a beast in his own right.

Meanwhile, you're paying more annually for a total of 5(?) seasons for a player who has never even had a 700 yard season. You look at his career numbers (1700 yards, 7 TDs) and that's something Welker could put up in ONE season and almost did in 2011. There is no way Amendola and Brady can work up a rapport to match that which he had with Welker, and while you can't put any tangible number on that relationship, it has got to count for something.

If it were me and keeping Welker wasn't an option, I probably would start to use Hernandez in more of a WR role while allowing Lloyd to become the #1. Gronk would obv still be a major threat from the TE spot with Ballard filling in on the two TE sets.

I'm not too concerned. Pollard is the only one that has me scratching my head.

Kruger and Ellerbe both got overpaid and I'm glad we didn't sign either one. They've combined for 20 starts in the teams last 65 games, so that speaks to how "integral" they are. Kruger, in particular, was just a role player. 2 down linebacker only used in pass rush situations who is being paid like a pro bowler now. He was really only effective once Suggs came back and took most of the attention, so I don't see him as a #1 option for pass rush.

Boldin is old, can't get separation, and has never had a thousand yard season for us. Losing him hurts on the surface, but in reality, he hasn't been a #1 WR since he left AZ, and even then he was their #2.

We had a similar exodus of key players a few seasons ago when we let go Heap and Mason - Spent the next five years in the playoffs. Have always lost "key" defensive players - where are Bart Scott, Ed Hartwell, Dawan Landry, Kik Herring and Adalius Thomas now?

Front office has a plan. Don't know what it is yet, but it will unfold in the coming months. And no matter what, that Super Bowl trophy can keep us warm until September when everything starts up again.

Brady threw him open actually, the report I saw indicated that both players got the same guaranteed money ....yes, Welker being part of the system is irreplaceable , but I think they will be fine.

How much you think Flacco's contract is playing a role on all the Ravens moves

Yeah right, knowing the bills, flynn and the rookie turn out to be busts. I like their high hopes though. Lol

I, on the other hand, am extatic about Wallace. Pretty happy about wheeler as well

Wheeler is a STUD! Very sad to see him out of Oakland, but glad he got paid. He had one hell of a season last year for the Raiders. I was hoping they would lock him up long term, but that didn't happen.