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Re: What happened?

A very solid and competitive fight. GGG legitimately won a very close decision against a top notch and bigger opponent. It's not weird, it's just that we've been used to GGG slaughtering his opponents for a long time now and we came to take it for granted.

A very solid and competitive fight. GGG legitimately won a very close decision against a top notch and bigger opponent. It's not weird, it's just that we've been used to GGG slaughtering his opponents for a long time now and we came to take it for granted.

Re: What happened?

There's not a great fighter in history that hasn't had an unexpectedly hard fight (even dropped a loss) in their pomp. It's a testament to Golovkin that he's on a pedestal where he's expected to blow away all his competition. Now obviously the ultra pedantic "fan" will say "all the current middlweights are shit," so lets just step back a generation or two.

Would Golovkin or Jacobs really be considered an easy fight for the top middleweights from recent generations? Hopkins, Taylor, Pavlik, Sergio or Tito, Winky, Joppy, Eastman, Simon, Abraham, Sturm etc.

Hopkins is the bonafide all-time great middleweight from those names, right? Mainly due to longevity not actual particular wins.

So where would Jacobs rank amongst first ballot hall of famer BHop's best middleweight wins?

Re: What happened?

Originally Posted by Fenster

There's not a great fighter in history that hasn't had an unexpectedly hard fight (even dropped a loss) in their pomp. It's a testament to Golovkin that he's on a pedestal where he's expected to blow away all his competition. Now obviously the ultra pedantic "fan" will say "all the current middlweights are shit," so lets just step back a generation or two.

Would Golovkin or Jacobs really be considered an easy fight for the top middleweights from recent generations? Hopkins, Taylor, Pavlik, Sergio or Tito, Winky, Joppy, Eastman, Simon, Abraham, Sturm etc.

Hopkins is the bonafide all-time great middleweight from those names, right? Mainly due to longevity not actual particular wins.

So where would Jacobs rank amongst first ballot hall of famer BHop's best middleweight wins?

I would place Jacobs on par with Hop's win over Joppy. I think Hop faced and beat better competition overall, and I don't think GGG has faced any kind of monster like Tito was at that time. Of that list I give Pavilik, Taylor, Winky, And Martinez great odds to beat GGG. I think Hop destroys him and lols phenomenal in the process.

Re: What happened?

So it would be fair to say Jacobs - let alone GGG - would be regarded as one of Hopkins best wins at middleweight. And that would certainly go for every other middleweight I named - that's if they won of course.

Golovkin didn't blow Jacobs away which means either - he's overrated or he had a bad night. When in reality Jacobs is better than everyone gave him credit for and wouldn't look out of place with past generations.

Nice list. Glen Johnson should be on the list, he was undefeated before he fought B Hop.

Good catch. Not sure how I could leave The Road Warrior off that list. I would place him above Echols on that list. Glen learned a lot in that fight and was a much better fighter when he beat Roy and Tarver, later in his career. For that reason, I don't place Hop's stoppage of Johnson over his performance vs Tito.