tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post4650364418729270159..comments2019-02-22T04:20:26.251-08:00Comments on EU Law Analysis: What happens to British expatriates if the UK leaves the EU?Steve Peershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05869161329197244113noreply@blogger.comBlogger184125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-85275499599636441262017-07-20T09:43:52.803-07:002017-07-20T09:43:52.803-07:00i m really ensure the matters of K would be free t...i m really ensure the matters of K would be free to give expression to these views, but there would be consequences for British expatriates remaining in the EU.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.knightwolffe.com/" rel="nofollow">Hire Tax advisors in the UK</a> | <a href="http://www.knightwolffe.com/is-using-a-tax-trust-classed-as-tax-avoidance/" rel="nofollow">Is a trust tax avoidance</a>Susan Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01664984250375605237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-33253376976660301852017-02-26T05:48:46.634-08:002017-02-26T05:48:46.634-08:00That will depend on the acquired rights agreement ...That will depend on the acquired rights agreement if there is one, and if it deals with this issue. Otherwise it would depend on national law, unless (on the Spanish side) an EU law addresses the issue. Steve Peershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05869161329197244113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-54144671278895657872017-02-26T05:47:08.697-08:002017-02-26T05:47:08.697-08:00Unless an acquired rights agreement covers situati...Unless an acquired rights agreement covers situations like yours it&#39;s possible that visiting the property for periods of longer than 3 months in a 6 month period (which is the usual limit for non-visa non-EU nationals) will be more complicated after Brexit. Steve Peershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05869161329197244113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-91348505593943067662017-02-26T05:45:29.706-08:002017-02-26T05:45:29.706-08:00Another point - is it too late to apply for Reside...Another point - is it too late to apply for Residencia in Spain as a pensioner .will there be a cut off off date for DWP provision of an S1 that you need for this. Will it be the article 50 triggering date or the actual BREXIT date ?PAT BOORMANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14985420916149766450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-27974615181317641512017-02-26T05:40:26.372-08:002017-02-26T05:40:26.372-08:00As a second home owner in Spain I am fiscally non ...As a second home owner in Spain I am fiscally non resident and am limited to 182 days a year . I think this will be unaffected by BREXIT. However I hope as I have a property not of high value though and an NEi of course that I will not need a visa to go to my Spainish property in the winter. Also I think whether being an owner prior to BREXIT whether I might be allowed to stay longer than 182 days if I need to in my old age provided maybe I fill in full tax return instead of the 210 impuestos por la rent a minimal amountPAT BOORMANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14985420916149766450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-36129526117730278252017-02-22T04:07:11.058-08:002017-02-22T04:07:11.058-08:00I have read all the comments ,and I despair .If we...I have read all the comments ,and I despair .If we leave the EEU we will be at the mercy of countries like the USA who see us as a country for sale, it will not matter how much Germany wants us to stay if any one of the other 27 say NO ,and there are lots who don&#39;t like us for our past dealings. As for immigration I think most who voted for that reason meant from the rest of the world, which is the greater number not from the EU, outside of the EU nothing will stop this Government from down grading Health &amp; Safety Human Rights and rafts of other laws which protect the citizens of this country Who is doing this, none other than a person who is unelected either by her own party or the country using a vote that carries no weight in law.Nigel by the way stated the if the vote was against leaving then it had to be by 2/3 majority so we the people have aright to demand a vote on any future outcone.Applebynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-23845457710119892272017-01-17T08:58:11.824-08:002017-01-17T08:58:11.824-08:00Nice blog! UK Prime Minister has clarified that UK...Nice blog! UK Prime Minister has clarified that UK will not guarantee rights of EU nationals working in UK unless EU countries extend similar guarantee to Britons working in EU Countries @ http://www.canadaupdates.com/2017/01/17/eu-citizens-might-face-difficulties-to-stay-in-the-uk/Vaibhav Manchandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01426774421304542771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-16424040806144850342016-10-02T01:01:37.607-07:002016-10-02T01:01:37.607-07:00The &#39;EUSSR&#39; is the most pathetic argument ...The &#39;EUSSR&#39; is the most pathetic argument ever made by Brexiteers. At what point did the EU invade countries or hold show trials, etc? Every state voted to join by an elected parliament or (in the majority of states) by the public. Grow up. Steve Peershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05869161329197244113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-85558017552153131102016-10-02T00:52:31.351-07:002016-10-02T00:52:31.351-07:00That would violate EU immigration law and human ri...That would violate EU immigration law and human rights law. Are you some sort of fascist?Steve Peershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05869161329197244113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-4412149087970641402016-10-01T17:02:21.527-07:002016-10-01T17:02:21.527-07:00You can then easily move to Switzerland where sala...You can then easily move to Switzerland where salaries are 4 times larger than in Germany.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-27372260439569957352016-10-01T16:57:53.315-07:002016-10-01T16:57:53.315-07:00You smart arse Brits want best of both worlds brou...You smart arse Brits want best of both worlds brought to you by a platter and the messenger would not be a democrat. How about three referendums, would that satisfy you? Second one votes LEAVE and then third one votes LEAVE. How&#39;s that? Bye bye EUSSR and welcome back home in the YOUKAY. Znatnice?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-33085516235781584052016-10-01T16:53:07.747-07:002016-10-01T16:53:07.747-07:00Your only hope that the EU reaffirms to everyone t...Your only hope that the EU reaffirms to everyone that they are NOT a democracy and annulls the Brexit Referendum. Tough luck Sandra! Byebye France for you and Hello Home Sweet Home! I am pro Brexit by the way, so you&#39;re not the only one loving your freedom from the oppressive undemocratic state called &quot;EU&quot; and I hope that my Spain leaves it as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-22172067896250552842016-10-01T16:49:41.430-07:002016-10-01T16:49:41.430-07:00Tough luck John! You can&#39;t have best of both w...Tough luck John! You can&#39;t have best of both worlds... Choose one! You can always have the better one: the UK, not Spain. JoseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-24270706456299769002016-10-01T16:45:32.438-07:002016-10-01T16:45:32.438-07:00I was waiting for this day until all UK &quot;expa...I was waiting for this day until all UK &quot;expats&quot; or rather immigrants or migrants or job seekers will get kicked out of Spain, Portugal, Greece, Italy, Germany, France etc. The sooner the better. Sooner - better. Tomorrow - even better. Today - is perfect!<br /><br />Jose CarlosAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-86797805204970845822016-07-07T14:16:02.429-07:002016-07-07T14:16:02.429-07:00Unless you are the family member of an EU citizen ...Unless you are the family member of an EU citizen then Brexit will not affect you anyway. But in any event the UK&#39;s application of EU law should not change over the summer. Steve Peershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05869161329197244113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-22966666634992361002016-07-07T08:17:57.908-07:002016-07-07T08:17:57.908-07:00Im from albania i have a redincial card- leave to ...Im from albania i have a redincial card- leave to remain card and live in UK, im going to albania in 2 weeks will there be a problem moving back and further now that were out of EU. THank you Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-17392135297104243302016-06-30T02:01:29.675-07:002016-06-30T02:01:29.675-07:00Thoroughly agree with you , Sandra and sympathize ...Thoroughly agree with you , Sandra and sympathize with your plight. I am Scottish but have lived in the Netherlands since 1982 . I never saw the need to change my nationality believing that my UK passport would guarantee my right of residence. In the event of an ad hoc agreement with the EU , this will no longer be the case . I am not a lawyer but I believe the referendum could be declared illegal on the following grounds: The people were being asked to choose the status quo and completely unknown territory . It ought to have been between the status quo and the Post-Brexit negotiated deal. Secondly. the British people were lied to about the savings in EU contributions and immigration. In the event of Britain remaining in the EEA ( the single market), the free movement of people would still be a reality and Britain would continue to have to pay a contribution to the EU . In this scenario , the British would lose the right to vote in EU elections , lose the commissioners , effectively relinquishing all influence over EU decision-making . Ergo , there has to be a second referendum , this time with a proper choice between the present situation with all rights and influence retained or the single market that is all the duties of membership without the rights . This is surely not a good situation to be in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-45668735099858544622016-06-14T10:23:16.760-07:002016-06-14T10:23:16.760-07:00Certainly as UK National OAP&#39;s living in Franc...Certainly as UK National OAP&#39;s living in France, it is a constant worry as to what is likely to happen ...my husband has had two mini strokes, and I have had various illnesses - at our age it is unlikely we would receive treatment in the UK (83 and 68) ....and probably unlikely we would be able to afford private health cover. There are a number of young people with families from the UK working here who would probably be unable to stay (most of them work for themselves under various schemes ) as those jobs could be done by French nationals ...as has been said, nothing has been said that gives us any concrete information as to what the position would be of ex pat UK nationals . Some remarks have been made to the effect that &#39;you made your bed, you lie on it&#39;...this is not very helpful or informative. It would be difficult if not impossible to move back to the UK even if forced to do so by France ....we could not afford even to move, let alone obtain anywhere to live ! and we are not alone. <br /><br />Also, Security of the whole of the UK and the EU is of increasing concern (not to mention the US now) and in the EU shared intelligence is a matter of great importance. The UK cannot go it alone, no matter what they say. This has, as usual, been a knee jerk reaction - not thought through. Now it is too late - the only hope is that the EU will decide the referendum in the UK is illegal.sandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05624899596442659379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-9879086075457701132016-05-15T15:04:28.838-07:002016-05-15T15:04:28.838-07:00I am British and I live and work in the United Sta...I am British and I live and work in the United States it took me two years and having to do a second masters degree to get a job here, and I want to stay this is my home, my partner is American. I constantly worry about being sent home so we decided to get married next year so I can apply for citizenship. My daughter is currently living and working in France as a mechanic and is really worried about having to go back to the UK. I don&#39;t want her to be constantly worrying about being sent back to the UK or having the expense that I&#39;ve had recently having to reapply for a VISA. People haven&#39;t thought about the millions of British living in European countries or the number of people from other countries who are living and working in the UK and contributing to the economy. Probably because they are so full of hatred and of the opinion that everyone coming to the UK is sponging off the social security and taking jobs that the British should have. Highlighting the sovereignty angle to negate against remaining is another argument being used and I have to admit I&#39;m proud to be British and would hate for us to lose our identity but is that really going to happen, I&#39;m not sure but isn&#39;t that up to the British to retain their identity. It&#39;s not like we really have any real power any more and I think that it just may be disastrous to the economy now if Britain leaves. I remember being able to do my first masters degree for £2,000 because of European funding and my teaching qualification was supported by European funding. Thank you for all your comments. As a British citizen and being able to vote as I only left the UK three years ago after living and working in the UK for 55 years I will vote to stay in the EU. So that future generations will be able to work and travel freely across Europe. Jan58https://www.blogger.com/profile/05697469020688852835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-72633788286205571952016-05-10T12:00:28.672-07:002016-05-10T12:00:28.672-07:00My wife and I have lived in France for 14 years, w...My wife and I have lived in France for 14 years, we sold our house in France last year and since then have been basically living in airbnb properties. In the event of an out vote we feel that the French authorities would not be helpful and would make life difficult. We have two sons one in university in France the other taking a gap year out from his studies. again in France. My sons are effectively French, although British born. This is a nightmare, we have nothing in the UK, yet we could be forced back there. <br />I have spoken to many expat&#39;s who do not seem bothered about the referendum and feel that in the event of an out vote they will be accommodated in the host country. I on the other hand do not believe this and feel a more cautious approach is necessary.<br />Another issue for me is that I am in receipt of UK government pensions and I think the UK government would be only too pleased to freeze my pensions in the event of an out vote. <br />The whole thing is dreadful, the only positive for us is that we are able to still vote.....only just!<br />Any comments really welcome.<br />Regards<br />Robert Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-91965999878233984512016-05-05T01:42:16.751-07:002016-05-05T01:42:16.751-07:00Bring this debate up to date! Prof Derrick Wyatt&#...Bring this debate up to date! Prof Derrick Wyatt&#39;s report to the House of Lords. <br />As a long term expat resident in Spain, who pays taxes and benfits from the health service, and am getting older by the second, I am taking the postion that we will know nothing definite for at least 2 years. My worry is that bilateral negotiations betwen Spain and the Uk will be conducted by self centre politicians who don&#39;t care a toss for their expats! Woe betide the UK&#39;s NHS if 1million over 70s return home, greyspaniardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01880714699288049166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-26027824368483947162016-03-30T10:41:13.504-07:002016-03-30T10:41:13.504-07:00´The degree of ignorance surrounding the whole EU-...´The degree of ignorance surrounding the whole EU-´<br /><br /> it is frightening- the public are just soaking up the deliberate misinformation spread by the anti-EU press without considering if they are being told the truth- look at Boris Johnson´s grilling by the Treasury select committee to see how much misinformation this figurehead spews out wihout any attempt to be accurate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-76149357144338600922016-03-21T10:11:43.951-07:002016-03-21T10:11:43.951-07:00In fact only the UK gets only a small percentage o...In fact only the UK gets only a small percentage of the total number of asylum-seekers coming to the EU. The euro doesn&#39;t seem to deter the large numbers who would like to go to Germany. God forbid the UK is deluged by Syrians like Steve Jobs...Steve Peershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05869161329197244113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-34847647183078954682016-03-21T08:20:01.815-07:002016-03-21T08:20:01.815-07:00As we are already of part of EU, Why United Kingdo...As we are already of part of EU, Why United Kingdom needs to keep Sterling Pounds? Why can&#39;t we change to Euros instead, therefore all those people thinking of migrating will have SECOND THOUGHT. <br />The only reason most people from Syria, Bangladesh, Iraq, Afghanistan &amp; other European countries want to come to live in the United Kingdom because of money &amp; benefits, but mainly they can send money back to their own country. (Better pay &amp; conversion rate compare to Euros).<br />If they do live in the UK, they will NOT adapt to our culture, speak English as their first language, &amp; will keep in their own segregation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8704899696538705849.post-31694517210898112632016-03-13T05:42:08.991-07:002016-03-13T05:42:08.991-07:00Thanks for your comment, Helen. I can&#39;t advise...Thanks for your comment, Helen. I can&#39;t advise on individual cases. In general UK citizens in other Member States should look into the possibility of getting permanent residence under national law (which hopefully would not be taken away after Brexit) and/or under EU law. The latter provides for permanent residence after five years&#39; legal stay on the basis of the EU citizens&#39; Directive, which includes time spent as a worker there. Hopefully there would be a reciprocal agreement to protect any EU permanent residence rights gained before Brexit. Steve Peershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05869161329197244113noreply@blogger.com