Are they somehow complete pensions? I mean, partial pensions are a thing that are given to people who don't work 40 years at the same job. And they're usually available after 65, even if you keep working.

ikanreed:Are they somehow complete pensions? I mean, partial pensions are a thing that are given to people who don't work 40 years at the same job. And they're usually available after 65, even if you keep working.

Is this wrongdoing or republican style narrative-making?

//Not that you need a pension when you're on a senator's salary.

It's probably not wrongdoing at all. It doesn't change the fact, however, that John Cornyn is an idiot and an asshole.

tnpir:ikanreed: Are they somehow complete pensions? I mean, partial pensions are a thing that are given to people who don't work 40 years at the same job. And they're usually available after 65, even if you keep working.

Is this wrongdoing or republican style narrative-making?

//Not that you need a pension when you're on a senator's salary.

It's probably not wrongdoing at all. It doesn't change the fact, however, that John Cornyn is an idiot and an asshole.

And one of the leading floggers of the "overpaid, lazy, Federal employee" narrative

ikanreed:Are they somehow complete pensions? I mean, partial pensions are a thing that are given to people who don't work 40 years at the same job. And they're usually available after 65, even if you keep working.

Is this wrongdoing or republican style narrative-making?

//Not that you need a pension when you're on a senator's salary.

Some, like the one Gov Perry gets, credits time served in National Guard*.That is why Perry gets so much money.

*partly to make up for Texas State Congressmen only working 90 days every 2 years.

trotsky:Yet they give Teachers shiat for $700/month pensions. Christ, what an asshole.

Indeed. I'm okay with a pension for a job you've done. That was part of the agreement to work. But 50k a year for how long - until death? - for 6 years as a state supreme court justice? 10k for 3 years as state attorney general? Unless those jobs were nuclear physicist or elementary school teacher, I'm gonna think it's some kind of scam.

Cornyn, unlike Perry, is drawing his pensions and salary from different levels of government. His salary is supported by the federal government, while his pensions come from state and local government.

I don't know if that makes any different that it's state and local and NOT Federal, but I thought it interesting. He's still a bit slimy to me, but it's not out of my tax dollars.

ikanreed:Are they somehow complete pensions? I mean, partial pensions are a thing that are given to people who don't work 40 years at the same job. And they're usually available after 65, even if you keep working.

Is this wrongdoing or republican style narrative-making?

//Not that you need a pension when you're on a senator's salary.

40 years? Try 20 or so. There used to be an old trick that was very common. Serve 20 years in the armed forces, retire on half pay at 38. Join the local PD, work 20 years, retire with even more money at 58. Get government consulting/contracting job. Rake in money

dantheman195:trotsky: Yet they give Teachers shiat for $700/month pensions. Christ, what an asshole.

Umm not in New Jersey, the average NJEA Socialist Scum make 50K a year plus full medical benefits for life, pension wise.

Yet they still complain how "underpaid" they are

Not bad for a part-time job

God damn that is stupid. Take that massive 50K and divide the so-called part-timeyness of it over twelve months. Yeah, they don't work for two months, but they don't draw pay during those months unless they elect to have their pay distributed that way.

If you think less than $4200 a month BEFORE taxes is great pay, you're easily impressed and a farking idiot.

Seriously,as jealous as you are, go become a teacher and show us how awesome it is, you cretin.

I believe the average public school teacher last something like five years. Hard farking work dealing all day with a bunch of uncivilized people (i.e., kids), having administrators do all they can to undermine your ability to teach, dealing with parents that do the same, having to do a ton of paperwork because no one trusts you actually to do your job, and being shiat on by folks like dantheman.

/oh and -- if you are in math or science -- getting paid far less than any public sector job//and there's also summer school, but I guess no one actually teaches those classes///slashies come in threes

Seriously,as jealous as you are, go become a teacher and show us how awesome it is, you cretin.

For the crap teachers have to go through while they're doing their job: the low pay, the high level of education required, the kids (Oh God, the kids!), the sometimes awful classrooms and school buildings they have to work in, the out-dated text books and lack of new technology, and the sometimes pants-on-head retarded bureaucracy, the LEAST we can do is give them a good pension once they retire.

trotsky:Yet they give Teachers shiat for $700/month pensions. Christ, what an asshole.

On what planet do teachers only get $700/month pensions?

teachers at my kids' district get 75% of their best year (typically in the $70k range) for life after 30 years +full bennies.Don't get me wrong, I think teachers earn every penny but to state they get a pension as piddly as you claim is beyond tarded

$48,000 annual pension for a job he held for 6 years - state Supreme Court from 1991 to 1997$10,000 annual pension for a job he held for 3 years - Texas attorney general from 1999 to 2002$ 6,450 annual pension for a job he held for 4 years - state district judge from 1985 to 1989

So, for 13 years on the government tit, he gets to suck that tit to the tune of $64k per year.WELFARE REFORM NOW!

Reading the article, I can't get all that upset. He has certainly put in his time at various high level positions. Senators make a good salary? I'm shocked. Retiring from state supreme court justice offers a pension that helps keep one above bribery (in theory anyways)? Horrific. 10k for 3 years as texas attorney general seems high, but I doubt it is based solely on the years in that position, but rather that that was the point at which he finished working as an attorney for texas. The last is 6k for a judgeship.

Do we want to not pay our judges well?

None of this means he isn't an asshole or whatever else people who know more about the guy feel like calling him, but a 65k pension after a lifetime of legal work isn't really all that impressive.

Wendy's Chili:Canata: Military retirees get preference for most government schedule positions to boot.

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"It's always an honor to meet veterans of our armed forces. They're the finest men and women on God's green Earth. So what have you been up to since you left the service?"

"Well, I've been working for the US Department of Transportation for the last 20 years."

"You're a leech. A filthy, do-nothing parasite. Kill yourself and quit being a burden on the job creators."

Umm not in New Jersey, the average NJEA Socialist Scum make 50K a year plus full medical benefits for life, pension wise.

Yet they still complain how "underpaid" they are

Not bad for a part-time job

God damn that is stupid. Take that massive 50K and divide the so-called part-timeyness of it over twelve months. Yeah, they don't work for two months, but they don't draw pay during those months unless they elect to have their pay distributed that way.

If you think less than $4200 a month BEFORE taxes is great pay, you're easily impressed and a farking idiot.

Smackledorfer:Reading the article, I can't get all that upset. He has certainly put in his time at various high level positions. Senators make a good salary? I'm shocked. Retiring from state supreme court justice offers a pension that helps keep one above bribery (in theory anyways)? Horrific. 10k for 3 years as texas attorney general seems high, but I doubt it is based solely on the years in that position, but rather that that was the point at which he finished working as an attorney for texas. The last is 6k for a judgeship.

Do we want to not pay our judges well?

None of this means he isn't an asshole or whatever else people who know more about the guy feel like calling him, but a 65k pension after a lifetime of legal work isn't really all that impressive.

Wendy's Chili: Canata: Military retirees get preference for most government schedule positions to boot.

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"It's always an honor to meet veterans of our armed forces. They're the finest men and women on God's green Earth. So what have you been up to since you left the service?"

"Well, I've been working for the US Department of Transportation for the last 20 years."

"You're a leech. A filthy, do-nothing parasite. Kill yourself and quit being a burden on the job creators."

And a big dose of this.

I think part of it is he's collecting all these pensions while he's still working. We had problems in Arkansas with people working a few years, "retiring", starting a pension for life, taking another job, "retiring", adding another pension for life, etc. We finally had to make a rule that you couldn't start collecting retirement until you actually retired.

I'd love to hear you expand on such an important and meaningful comment. But then if you actually engaged in discussion instead of silly one-liners presented as deep thoughts, you wouldn't be DIA, would you?