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[Mass Effect] SPOILER ALL ME3 DISCUSSION. EVERY SINGLE BIT. EVEN HINTS.

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If you preordered using Origin before a certain date (When they pulled the promotional deal without any warning) you're supposed to get BF3 for free. It's also supposed to be nontransferrable, but if it's a code it probably will be anyway. The problem is that as far as I can tell no one has received one yet, and it's supposed to be sent out when the game released. The email I got said the 8th at the latest, but it's the 8th now, and I haven't gotten a thing. Gonna try Origin support and see if they have any word.

After that ending, I need to shoot mans to recover. Because damn.

AH, I see, I didn't hear about that.

Reading up on it, that was a US only promotion,so no wonder I didn't know.

Also I was unaware of this "multiplayer effects galactic readiness and influences the ending" thing.

I pretty much hate to see multiplayer effect the single-player game in any way whatsoever, considering it's been a single-player game to this point.

Like I said in the old thread, I don't really get that mad about it. What I don't like, though, is knowing this I'll get to a point where it'll be time to complete the game. I then have to save, go grind up my multiplayer stuff, and then resume. It doesn't flow right, to me at least.

Now, my plan is to just save, get my ending, and then play multi and load it up and do it again. Hopefully that works.

So has anyone talked about how Newegg shipped Madden 2012 instead of ME3? 'cause they did, and it's not awesome.

We’re contacting you today regarding your recent purchase of the Mass Effect 3 Xbox 360 game. It appears there may have been an error when fulfilling and shipping your order. We’ve received reports that some customers may have received Madden NFL 2012 Xbox 360 instead of the intended product.

To correct this error, a Customer Service Representative will be contacting you at the phone number provided by you within your account to arrange an advanced replacement, if necessary. The Representative will also arrange an RMA with a prepaid return shipping label. Please note that when arranging advanced returns, we do require a credit card number to be on file in the event the originally-shipped product is not returned. Please expect this call within the next 2 to 3 business days; of course, you may contact Newegg customer support earlier as well if you wish.

We deeply apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. As a courtesy, your advanced replacement game will be shipped via overnight delivery at no additional cost to you in the hope that you receive your game as quickly as possible.

Sincerely,
Newegg Customer Support

But as a consolation, I watched a few more episodes of Game of Thrones last night, so I have that going for me. The commentaries are pretty great.

Not to get off topic in this thread, but I'm 800 pages into the third book. You have no idea what is ahead, assuming you haven't read the books. So good.

Edit: third book of the A Song Of Ice And Fire series, which is where Game Of Thrones comes from.

Also I was unaware of this "multiplayer effects galactic readiness and influences the ending" thing.

I pretty much hate to see multiplayer effect the single-player game in any way whatsoever, considering it's been a single-player game to this point.

This isn't spoilery, but talks about number of endings and clarifies how multi affects it without actually spoiling anything about the endings, but spoilered just in case.

There are 3 main endings. There's one tiny addon you get IF you play multiplayer. And I mean tiny. But the "best" ending is achievable without multiplayer. As far as I can tell, you only need 2800 rating for the "best" one.

you:
I preordered Mass Effect 3 while the free Battlefield 3 promotion was going on and it said I would receive that by the 8th. It's the 8th now and I haven't received anything
you:
so I was wondering when I'd get my BF3
Amit:
Hello SniperGuy
Amit:
I am sorry for the inconvenience caused.
Amit:
I would like to say, please wait for some time if you are bought the game before offer ends.Amit:
You'll definitely get your game.
you:
Will that be today?
Amit:
Yes, it might be some delay due to any reason but you'll be get your game.

you:
I preordered Mass Effect 3 while the free Battlefield 3 promotion was going on and it said I would receive that by the 8th. It's the 8th now and I haven't received anything
you:
so I was wondering when I'd get my BF3
Amit:
Hello SniperGuy
Amit:
I am sorry for the inconvenience caused.
Amit:
I would like to say, please wait for some time if you are bought the game before offer ends.Amit:
You'll definitely get your game.
you:
Will that be today?
Amit:
Yes, it might be some delay due to any reason but you'll be get your game.

Tali gave me a pistol. I love the pistol, but every time I use a power (I'm an adept), it zooms in! None of my other pistols do this and it's kind of irritating. Is there a fix or anything? Does anyone else have this problem?

You didn't accidentally modify it by attaching a scope, perhaps ?

IIRC it actually came with a scope. But then I took the scope off and it's still doing it... (I also like putting a scope on my pistols)

you:
I preordered Mass Effect 3 while the free Battlefield 3 promotion was going on and it said I would receive that by the 8th. It's the 8th now and I haven't received anything
you:
so I was wondering when I'd get my BF3
Amit:
Hello SniperGuy
Amit:
I am sorry for the inconvenience caused.
Amit:
I would like to say, please wait for some time if you are bought the game before offer ends.Amit:
You'll definitely get your game.
you:
Will that be today?
Amit:
Yes, it might be some delay due to any reason but you'll be get your game.

Man, that sure is some grammar by the EA dude there.

"I would like to say, please wait for some time if you are bought the game before offer ends. " sure made me laugh.

1) Why do the Reapers destroy all sufficiently advanced life when they return? Why not just destroy all the synthetics so that organic life can continue?
2) Why do the Reapers leave? Why solve with mass murder what could be solved with education?
2a) Or Indoctrination? Work out a lightweight way of Indoctrinating without the Huskification side-effects, and infest species' thought patterns to dissuade them from creating synthetic life?
3) If the organic lives have been saved by placing them in Reapers (???) why are they so compliant with the Catalyst? That doesn't sound like being saved at all.
3a) If they are 'saved', are they actually aware that they're destroying the modern organic species? Do they even feel anything about that? Again, how are they 'saved'?
3b) Do we kill the last remnant of a species every time we kill a Reaper?
4) Why does Shepard reaching the Catalyst mean that the Catalyst's plan has failed?
4a) Why does Shepard get given control just for reaching it? What possible reason is there to assume that the organic life has the capability to make such a wide-sweeping decision, and why is this an option in this cycle and not the cycle when Catalyst was created?
5) If you choose synthesis, what does that mean for the likes of EDI and the Geth? Joker gets glowy eyes but EDI looks unchanged.
6) WTF Normandy crash landing. Just WTF.

There's more where that came from, but those are the ones going through my head over and over.

1) Because the organic life would just rebuild the synthetic eventually, or something so like it it would make no difference.
2) Because they're dicks who believe themselves to be the supreme life forms.
2a) Because Indroctination, even a little bit, fucks you up yo. It involves nanites 'n shit.
3)/3a) They are preserved. They continue to exist in a new form. "Salvation through Destruction", remember?
3b) Yep.
4) Because Shepard can make a choice. Because the Catalyst cannot stop Shepard.
4a) Because every species improved upon the Crucible until it finally could work.
5) Organic processors, presumably. Organic circutry, specialized organs, who knows?
6) The Normandy crashes in every single game, it's just how shit gets done.

Aside from not getting something that was supposed to be included, you're not missing out on too much unless you play a class that has absolutely no concern for power recharge. The Argus rifle is amazingly heavy (maxed out weight), and the Raider shotgun is half-way decent as a bit of a novelty (it's basically a sawed-off, double-barreled shotgun: two shots before a reload and MASSIVE scatter).

Still, that's pretty raw that you didn't get the original Origin pre-order guns.

Aside from not getting something that was supposed to be included, you're not missing out on too much unless you play a class that has absolutely no concern for power recharge. The Argus rifle is amazingly heavy (maxed out weight), and the Raider shotgun is half-way decent as a bit of a novelty (it's basically a sawed-off, double-barreled shotgun: two shots before a reload and MASSIVE scatter).

Still, that's pretty raw that you didn't get the original Origin pre-order guns.

I played an infiltrator, so it's not a huge deal to me, but somewhat annoying. I got my hoodie and all that. Now to go back to ME1 and start a renegade Femshep!

that you go on this epic quest to unite the entire galaxy and bring peace between warring factions...

and then everyone just gets cut off from each other anyway so it doesn't really matter.

Damn near every ship in the galaxy is together in Sol, with some of the greatest minds of a generation. They'll figure something out.

end spoilers

Yup, dying from lack of food. Unless Earth is so depopulated that they can just inhabit that. Which doesn't help the various differently nutrient based species. Unless you got the Synthesis ending, then I'm assuming everyone gets solar panels built into their hair.

that you go on this epic quest to unite the entire galaxy and bring peace between warring factions...

and then everyone just gets cut off from each other anyway so it doesn't really matter.

Damn near every ship in the galaxy is together in Sol, with some of the greatest minds of a generation. They'll figure something out.

end spoilers

Yup, dying from lack of food. Unless Earth is so depopulated that they can just inhabit that. Which doesn't help the various differently nutrient based species. Unless you got the Synthesis ending, then I'm assuming everyone gets solar panels built into their hair.

1) Because the organic life would just rebuild the synthetic eventually, or something so like it it would make no difference.
2) Because they're dicks who believe themselves to be the supreme life forms.
2a) Because Indroctination, even a little bit, fucks you up yo. It involves nanites 'n shit.
3)/3a) They are preserved. They continue to exist in a new form. "Salvation through Destruction", remember?
3b) Yep.
4) Because Shepard can make a choice. Because the Catalyst cannot stop Shepard.
4a) Because every species improved upon the Crucible until it finally could work.
5) Organic processors, presumably. Organic circutry, specialized organs, who knows?
6) The Normandy crashes in every single game, it's just how shit gets done.

1) So just stick around and blow up new synthetic species.
2a) So, presumably, would synthesis. If they can MAGICALLY synthesize every organic bit of life in the galaxy, getting indoctrination to stop people from building robots doesn't seem all that difficult.
3a) That's not really existing is it?
3b) Heh.

I'm supposed to go to a terminal to get information on a Hanar diplomat. I've read comments that this quest is slightly bugged. Where is the second terminal I have to go to?

Aria wants me to get support from 3 mercenary gangs for fighting the Reapers. One of them (I think the Eclipse one) was locked up in C-Sec. I talked to Bailey and he said she was crazy, so I went to talk to her. I decided not to release her, but now it seems like the quest is stuck. I can't interact with the terminal at the C-Sec station to talk with the merc leader again, or interact with the C-Sec officer who was there. Talking to Bailey or Aria doesn't give me any more options. Is this quest now at a dead end?

So far I don't really know what to think of me3. In terms of shooting, it is by far the best game in the series and I really enjoy it for that. Also like the choices involved with the different war assets and how interesting they have made the core missions. But in other ways I am not finding this as enjoyable. They've made planet scanning and many side quests just pointless wastes of time, which do not seem to fit with the games dire situation - honestly am I really going to be space postman during the fucking reaper invasion?

Also really do not like what they did with a certain character immensely. Maybe it will grow on me after more play, but really not liking some of their decisions involving the characters in this game.

Aren't there bioware folks on this forum? Can't we get a weigh in here?

I think they've left. I would very much like to read a writer's explanation or justification for the endings.

Considering they get jumped on and called liars or have "news" sites take their comments out of context that get them in trouble when all they do is post their own honest thoughts in their own free time, I don't blame them.

1) Because the organic life would just rebuild the synthetic eventually, or something so like it it would make no difference.
2) Because they're dicks who believe themselves to be the supreme life forms.
2a) Because Indroctination, even a little bit, fucks you up yo. It involves nanites 'n shit.
3)/3a) They are preserved. They continue to exist in a new form. "Salvation through Destruction", remember?
3b) Yep.
4) Because Shepard can make a choice. Because the Catalyst cannot stop Shepard.
4a) Because every species improved upon the Crucible until it finally could work.
5) Organic processors, presumably. Organic circutry, specialized organs, who knows?
6) The Normandy crashes in every single game, it's just how shit gets done.

1) So just stick around and blow up new synthetic species.
2a) So, presumably, would synthesis. If they can MAGICALLY synthesize every organic bit of life in the galaxy, getting indoctrination to stop people from building robots doesn't seem all that difficult.
3a) That's not really existing is it?
3b) Heh.

But the Reapers are synthetic too. So if they just cruise around screaming FUCK DA ROBOTS,and whipping up doods into an anti robot frenzy, some species is going to try to kill them. And as you know, the Reapers can be killed.

I liked the ending a lot, but I fully expect a lot of bitching about it. Hopefully it won't be on the level of DAII, though, because people act like that game dateraped their hamster on live television.

So far I don't really know what to think of me3. In terms of shooting, it is by far the best game in the series and I really enjoy it for that. Also like the choices involved with the different war assets and how interesting they have made the core missions. But in other ways I am not finding this as enjoyable. They've made planet scanning and many side quests just pointless wastes of time, which do not seem to fit with the games dire situation - honestly am I really going to be space postman during the fucking reaper invasion?

Also really do not like what they did with a certain character immensely. Maybe it will grow on me after more play, but really not liking some of their decisions involving the characters in this game.

Welp..i'm at 100% galactic readiness...guess i should try the single player..but the multi is so very good

I'm very sad they didn't include controller support on the pc, i mean, kbam is better but sometimes i like to play on the couch, and the code was already there with the 360 version, it owuld have taken so little effort to do. sigh.

1) Because the organic life would just rebuild the synthetic eventually, or something so like it it would make no difference.
2) Because they're dicks who believe themselves to be the supreme life forms.
2a) Because Indroctination, even a little bit, fucks you up yo. It involves nanites 'n shit.
3)/3a) They are preserved. They continue to exist in a new form. "Salvation through Destruction", remember?
3b) Yep.
4) Because Shepard can make a choice. Because the Catalyst cannot stop Shepard.
4a) Because every species improved upon the Crucible until it finally could work.
5) Organic processors, presumably. Organic circutry, specialized organs, who knows?
6) The Normandy crashes in every single game, it's just how shit gets done.

1) So just stick around and blow up new synthetic species.
2a) So, presumably, would synthesis. If they can MAGICALLY synthesize every organic bit of life in the galaxy, getting indoctrination to stop people from building robots doesn't seem all that difficult.
3a) That's not really existing is it?
3b) Heh.

But the Reapers are synthetic too. So if they just cruise around screaming FUCK DA ROBOTS,and whipping up doods into an anti robot frenzy, some species is going to try to kill them. And as you know, the Reapers can be killed.

I liked the ending a lot, but I fully expect a lot of bitching about it. Hopefully it won't be on the level of DAII, though, because people act like that game dateraped their hamster on live television.

I'm supposed to go to a terminal to get information on a Hanar diplomat. I've read comments that this quest is slightly bugged. Where is the second terminal I have to go to?

Aria wants me to get support from 3 mercenary gangs for fighting the Reapers. One of them (I think the Eclipse one) was locked up in C-Sec. I talked to Bailey and he said she was crazy, so I went to talk to her. I decided not to release her, but now it seems like the quest is stuck. I can't interact with the terminal at the C-Sec station to talk with the merc leader again, or interact with the C-Sec officer who was there. Talking to Bailey or Aria doesn't give me any more options. Is this quest now at a dead end?

This is the worst part of the booster pack model. I don't mind having random unlocks, but don't let me unlock the same thing twice!

Looks like someone never played Magic: The Gathering or collected baseball cards before!

More like "looks like someone stopped playing Magic for a reason."

And I'm with him. I'd rather have the option to pay 100k credits for an unlock pack for a particular race/class and some related gear. I just want my Salarian Infiltrator. Until then I have to ChargePunchNova all day long. This is Bioware's fault!

Info regarding unlocks (spoilered just because, no story stuff):

I have opened about 20 million credits* worth of Spectre packs, along with some other testing, and came up with some stuff.

1. Consumable items have no hardcoded limit. This means you can hoard an infinite number of useless Thermal Clip packs.

2. There are gold unlocks which will boost your in-mission carrying capacity of consumables. One unlock type for each consumable, and I believe they go up to 10. This makes solo MP trivially easy in terms of survival.

5. Permanent upgrades/unlocks disappear from the potential item pool when you've maxed them out. When you start running out of unique unlocks, 4 of the 5 drops will be consumables almost every single time.

6. An infuriating exception to 5: character unlocks/XP will continue to drop even if said character is already maxed at level 20. Even if every single race/class combo is at level 20. No matter what. This means that your chances of getting an N7 unlock are only slightly less shitty once you've unlocked everything else, because you'll be getting tons of useless character drops.