Sort of like stealing the watch off a dead guy lying in the alley, but.....

seriously, you'd have to be very careful how you handle this stuff if you're Urban Meyer...the optics of it could do more harm than the players you get could do good...

Disclaimers aside...the big offensive tackle from PA, Dorian Johnson is a guy just about any program in the country would have taken, and he's probably the only guy I'd be interested in from their class...at a position of need for OSU. Most folks think he would end up at Pitt or WVU though, if he decides to leave PSU.

The TE Brenneman (sp?) had an OSU offer, but they have signed others since, and Brenneman tore his ACL and is out for the season.

"I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken

Hate to sound like a big ole downer here, but there is not much on PSU that we would really want. There are a couple of recruits that would be good. I would love to grab Dorian Johnson (5*OT), but he would be a long shot. They have a nice TE recruit (#1 TE), but he is coming off an ACL. tOSU is already VERY deep at TE, I would prefer to just stick with Baugh (#3 TE). Douglass couldn't hold any of tOSU's DB recruits jocks and he is there best guy in the secondary. Sickells is a nice recruit, but tOSU really doesn't need ANOTHER DE. Webb (DT) has already decommitted and is now going to UNC. He would have been a nice pick up, but tOSU already has 2 DTs in the class. Hackenburg (Prostyle QB) has been blowing up camps and combines all summer, but Miller has 3 years left and JT Barrett (looks pretty damn good himself) is already on board for 2013 and he fits tOSU's offense better. Couple that with tOSU position with 2014 QBs, and it would make more sense for tOSU to save that schollie too.

As for current players, tOSU needs linemen, playmakers and LBs.

PSU really doesn't have any playmakers.PSU's line is pretty decent, but not great. Not sure there is anyone there with enough eligibility to be a good match.PSU does have a couple of good LBs, but tOSU just brought in 5 last year.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

We wouldn't really want anyone from PSU. They are going to be starting 3 new DBs this year, none seem any more promising that tOSU's youngins, similar issues on the OL.

It seems likely that Redd will be the only guy to split. If this happened in May or June, it would be WAY more likely, but the players have less than a week before camp.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

So that tumbling house of cards certain internet insiders have been running around predicting regarding this 2013 PSU class isn't going to happen..... SHOCKING!

The four best recruits in the class are all firm and staying and a total of seven out of 12 have no affirmed their commitments.

Meh... this whole stupid thing reminds me of weathermen screaming about apocalyptic storms once a week, staying inside, don't dare venture out, ration your food and ammunition, and then you get almost an inch of snow flurries.

If we stop parroting these talking heads they may ultimately have to go a different route than teasing and titillating and throwing shit at a wall.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

I don't know, Mike. The counter people at McDonald's give you exactly what you ask for too.

If people didn't eat it up those who serve it would be forced to find something else to provide.

No accountability at McD's either. Do employees routinely get fired for fucking up your drive through order? Nope. If they did, they might get that shit right. I think you kind of made my point.

The problem is that 9/10 times you just drive home and eat that nasty fish samich even though you ordered a chicken samich, so no one is all the wiser that the drive through is nearly as fucked up as it is.

The issue is that everyone knows that Skip Bayless (and his ilk) is an idiot, yet people continue to watch it, therefore ESPiN (and similar organizations) doesn't care.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

I don't know, Mike. The counter people at McDonald's give you exactly what you ask for too.

If people didn't eat it up those who serve it would be forced to find something else to provide.

No accountability at McD's either. Do employees routinely get fired for fucking up your drive through order? Nope. If they did, they might get that shit right. I think you kind of made my point.

The problem is that 9/10 times you just drive home and eat that nasty fish samich even though you ordered a chicken samich, so no one is all the wiser that the drive through is nearly as fucked up as it is.

The issue is that everyone knows that Skip Bayless (and his ilk) is an idiot, yet people continue to watch it, therefore ESPiN (and similar organizations) doesn't care.

Yep. Two sides of same coin.

It's bad for you and still people order it up. And yes, that goes for McD's and Skip Bayless. But McD's and Skip wouldn't be mentioned ever again if people stopped eating shit or watching shit. As long as they continue to be okay with it we'll get more and more shit.

I stopped watching all the ESPN talking head BS a couple years ago. I will listen to Cowherd as he does have some decent takes, but in general I don't pay attention to much on that except their live broadcasts. Gameday was decent until Lee Corso went completely senile, I just get all my lawn work done now between 10am and noon kicks.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

I stopped watching all the ESPN talking head BS a couple years ago. I will listen to Cowherd as he does have some decent takes, but in general I don't pay attention to much on that except their live broadcasts. Gameday was decent until Lee Corso went completely senile, I just get all my lawn work done now between 10am and noon kicks.

Me too.

It was surprisingly easy actually. I never missed it. I watch live events and read linked articles. I like some of their baseball guys but I'm not going to pay insider for Law so, oh well. With everything else out there I never missed it.

Suprising in some sense that the juniors are leaving as well, especially those with a NFL future. Over/under on how many players Penn State opens the season with on scholarship? I'd set the target around 70-75...

They lost a pretty good WR too. All in all the losses are not that bad, but unfortunately PSU was not particularly deep. I didn't see if Issah transferred and I am too lazy to look it up. If he did (and he was rumored to be looking), PSU would be in serious trouble at RB.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.