You guys can't have it both ways. You can't expect to get a pat on the back when you implement something new and then when it is poorly designed not to expect criticism. It is obviously a bad look if every new change that is rolled out states that hey guys this was half assed and we know you spent 200 hours on your character and we will allow someone to steam roll you for "testing purposes" please don't get mad when you lose a fight you can't believe you lost.

Thats the problem, here is the solution: Instead of discussing it why not test it. Invite reputable people to play a character well before its release date and get their opinions. Or open another "test mud" to just run around and try these things out. I would be every single player in this mud will be more than willing to give up their free time to test your changes give you positive feed back since it doesn't involve a character they are currently playing and has no standing in the real game. Trust your players before you push them away.

"every single player in this mud will be more than willing to give up their free time"

This is coming from a guy who prays to be banned all the time.

You several idiots can lie to yourselves but I see right through this facade and I can see you don't care. The fact of the matter is this was actually tested very heavily by me along with a person who has been in every cabal and is a veteran. But go on, keep on bleating it wasn't tested at all. I do love listening to your assumptions. Gives some interesting perspective.

One of the very first things I heard after I had worked on shadows was "I was pissed because it wasnt druids" -- dumb.

You can blame divsky for ninjas being OP for a while mostly. As well as anyone else who thought it was a good idea to make ghostwalk like that. It obviously wasnt ok, but hey, why should I have to filter everything retarded. Since you guys are such obvious pros at it. So just keep those shadow suggestions coming. I wont be satisfied until everyone has quit in disgust anyway, right?

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Why are you judging your player base from the comments on one player? Set-up a poll asking if the people here would like to help you out to test new and exciting things I am sure you will get an overwhelming response that is positive. It was tested heavily by two people which is great, imagine if you guys didn't test it and the product that was produced. All the changes that happened after the fact could and should have been prevented maybe if you were better at testing. At least one player may not have deleted from their frustration with the class ie Beia a reputable player in your community.

Isn't his time and willingness to play a game you so love worth more than the frustration he is faced with?

Everything you are saying is full of hate I feel sorry for you. We care about you and your well being. Do not do this to yourself.

ozaru, how about instead of speaking for other people, just speak for yourself.

dear playerbase, if you do care about davairus's well-being, stop driving him (and other imms) up the wall with your negative comments. he has already asked you to stop several times, in this thread and multiple other ones. it is very easy for you to just write "we are willing to help you do more testing" and leave it at that. see? constructive comment.

"if you were better at testing" and "i feel sorry for you" are bullshit unhelpful negative comments and we do not need them here._________________chortle chortle

Just realized that Davairus is a communist spy designed to collect intel about our RP/behavior and send it back to motherland to develop an ultimate mindfucking machine._________________An optimist believes that we live in the best of possible worlds; a pessimist fears it to be true.