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Well, with all the metaphysical talk happening in the episode 3 disscussion thread and the little bit in the Suzumiya Haruhi thread itself, I suggest a Metaphysics of Suzumiya Haruhi thread so these suprisingly interesting discussions have a home.

Maids! x3 had the better title I feel... The Ontology of Suzumiya Haruhi.

It gives you a wider breath of topics to discuss, rather than limiting yourself simply to the Metaphysics. In theory, not only could it contain the metaphysical discussions that have been bandied about in the ep3 thread, but it could also contain the description of the formulae from the OP... as well as potential future disussions as we learn more about the backgrounds/workings of the other characters in the show.

I mostly add this here because quite a lot of the ep3 discussion will fall into the shadows once the ep4 discussion opens. Technically the difference between Metaphysics and Ontology is some people won't have to hit the dictionary to get a definition of the former ^^

It seems to me that my earlier request for a "metaphysical/philosophical" thread (that later got morphed into the "speculation" section of the Future Episode Synopses/Series Predictions/General Speculation thread) has come up again in a different form. As such I feel duty bound to add my voice to the others above requesting for an Ontology of Suzumiya Haruhi thread.

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The discussion was drifting from philosophy to physics, and we all know where that leads: mathematics. I thought, "these people are going start solving equations." It's an appropriate topic for the subforum, I think. It was a little off-topic for the Episode Three thread. Without their own thread, the same thing will happen with Episode Four. Or is it Seven?

See? We had an Episode One that may in fact be Episode Zero, and now, apparently, we are about to get an Episode Four that might be Episode Seven. Sooner or later, someone is going to detect a pattern! And patterns inevitably lead to places. Places like Copenhagen. If Copenhagen comes up again in the Episode Four (which might be Episode Seven) thread, I'll have to start drinking very heavily. Which also leads to places. Uncertain places. And uncertainty will only lead us to Heisenberg, whom I believe was a student of Neils Bohr, and Bohr just brings us back to Copenhagen. And more heavy drinking.

It's a viscious cycle. So please give the physicists and philosophers their own thread.

Maids! x3 had the better title I feel... The Ontology of Suzumiya Haruhi.

It gives you a wider breath of topics to discuss, rather than limiting yourself simply to the Metaphysics. In theory, not only could it contain the metaphysical discussions that have been bandied about in the ep3 thread, but it could also contain the description of the formulae from the OP... as well as potential future disussions as we learn more about the backgrounds/workings of the other characters in the show.

I mostly add this here because quite a lot of the ep3 discussion will fall into the shadows once the ep4 discussion opens. Technically the difference between Metaphysics and Ontology is some people won't have to hit the dictionary to get a definition of the former ^^

Good point and I agree that the new thread should be The Ontology of Suzumiya Haruhi.

On this idea of an Ontology of Suzumiya Haruhi thread...can you tell me where the discussion starts in the Episode 3 thread? Which post was the genesis of the discussion? I'd like the read up on what you guys are talking about without having to sift through 15 pages. Thanks.

Maids! x3 had the better title I feel... The Ontology of Suzumiya Haruhi.

All right...I created this thread and moved over a batch of posts. If there's a post of yours (or anyone’s) that you feel belongs in that thread, let me know or just re-post the information. I'm not so sure about the word "Ontology". I know what it means and use it on a daily basis, but I'm not so sure others will, soooo, if you see future "Metaphysical" post crop up by people that don't know what that words means, be a pal and nicely point them to that thread.

This new thread should be a good test to see if off topic chat in the Episode threads has legs beyond the Episode thread and is worthy of a separate discussion of its own. Props to melange for originally proposing the idea awhile ago.

See? We had an Episode One that may in fact be Episode Zero, and now, apparently, we are about to get an Episode Four that might be Episode Seven. Sooner or later, someone is going to detect a pattern! And patterns inevitably lead to places. Places like Copenhagen. If Copenhagen comes up again in the Episode Four (which might be Episode Seven) thread, I'll have to start drinking very heavily. Which also leads to places. Uncertain places. And uncertainty will only lead us to Heisenberg, whom I believe was a student of Neils Bohr, and Bohr just brings us back to Copenhagen. And more heavy drinking.

I forget which blog had a good discussion going about this, with answers like: Haruhi, Mikuru, mass hysteria, good animation, Kyon's voiceover, self-reflexiveness, leaving gaps that suck people in, etc. We haven't really started talking about it here, I don't think, but I certainly don't know why the show has become so viral.

I posted something about Marshall Mcluhan's media theories (this being a "cool" show in that it leaves a lot out and requires the audience to participate by filling in the blanks) and it was suggested that further discussion along those lines belongs in the Ontology thread, but I think it belongs more in a thread like the one I suggest.

I forget which blog had a good discussion going about this, with answers like: Haruhi, Mikuru, mass hysteria, good animation, Kyon's voiceover, self-reflexiveness, leaving gaps that suck people in, etc. We haven't really started talking about it here, I don't think, but I certainly don't know why the show has become so viral.

I posted something about Marshall Mcluhan's media theories (this being a "cool" show in that it leaves a lot out and requires the audience to participate by filling in the blanks) and it was suggested that further discussion along those lines belongs in the Ontology thread, but I think it belongs more in a thread like the one I suggest.

I've attempted to spark some discussion about that in the original Suzumiya Haruhi Thread but it never caught much steam, my guess is that most people throw away all reason and simply enjoy the show

But it certainly would be fun to analyse what makes the show reminiscent of an epidemic

I forget which blog had a good discussion going about this, with answers like: Haruhi, Mikuru, mass hysteria, good animation, Kyon's voiceover, self-reflexiveness, leaving gaps that suck people in, etc. We haven't really started talking about it here, I don't think, but I certainly don't know why the show has become so viral.

I posted something about Marshall Mcluhan's media theories (this being a "cool" show in that it leaves a lot out and requires the audience to participate by filling in the blanks) and it was suggested that further discussion along those lines belongs in the Ontology thread, but I think it belongs more in a thread like the one I suggest.

I don't have any hypothesis' to add at the moment (need sleep) but I do think it should be something to be looked into. A new thread would keep things nice and streamlined (since 'ontology' seems to be more scientific/metaphysic and not media studies like this would be) but I don't mind if it ends up in an existing thread.