Comments on Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?TypePad2013-10-31T17:11:42ZEric Zornhttp://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/tag:typepad.com,2003:http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2013/10/esceletiquette-should-standers-keep-to-the-right/comments/atom.xml/Edge of the 14th Ward commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0095b1d6970d2013-11-02T18:36:14Z2013-11-02T18:36:14ZEdge of the 14th Ward--I'm a big fan of "stand on the right, walk on the left," but instead of conforming to a simple...<p>--I&#39;m a big fan of &quot;stand on the right, walk on the left,&quot; but instead of conforming to a simple rule, I think the most important thing people can do while riding escalators (or doing anything else in public) is to be aware of their surroundings. Don&#39;t zone out to the extent that you don&#39;t notice somebody trying to pass you on the left. There&#39;s really no excuse for not knowing who is behind you, who is in front of you, and what they&#39;re trying to do as you take a short escalator ride.</p>DaveB commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0093e2ed970c2013-11-02T14:27:06Z2013-11-02T14:27:06ZDaveBBruce L, I think Left Lane is just pulling our chain. Nobody could be as complete a brass mole as...<p>Bruce L, I think Left Lane is just pulling our chain. Nobody could be as complete a brass mole as he&#39;s claiming to be.</p>JoanM commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b008c1aa5970d2013-11-01T18:32:34Z2013-11-01T18:32:34ZJoanM"How lazy do you have to be to not walk down stairs?" If you're lucky enough to grow old and...<p>&quot;How lazy do you have to be to not walk down stairs?&quot;</p>
<p>If you&#39;re lucky enough to grow old and develop severe arthritis, or otherwise have a mobility issue as a younger person which might not be obvious to a stranger - you&#39;ll know the answer to that question.</p>Bruce L. commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b008a688a970b2013-11-01T15:05:25Z2013-11-01T15:05:25ZBruce L.@ JJF Will you never learn?!? Not only are you creating an unsafe and hazardous situation, but you are, in...<p>@ JJF</p>
<p>Will you never learn?!? Not only are you creating an unsafe and hazardous situation, but you are, in fact, BREAKING THE LAW:</p>
<p>Left Lane Law - While traveling on an interstate highway, a vehicle may not be driven in the left lane, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle. This prohibition does not apply to authorized emergency vehicles while engaged in official duties.</p>
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&quot;So many accidents are due to people staying in the left lane and blocking traffic. That leads to road rage and people whipping around them to pass on the right,&quot; said Millner, a former Elmhurst police chief.</p>
<p>Highway signs have advised motorists for decades to stay right except to pass, but Millner says too many drivers ignore the warning and disrupt traffic flow.</p>
<p>Some drivers set their cruise control at 55 m.p.h. and try to enforce the speed limit by staying in the left lane. Millner says that creates a ripple effect, forcing other drivers to hit the brakes and change lanes.</p>
<p>&quot;It&#39;s not their job to enforce the law,&quot; he said. &quot;Their speedometer might say they&#39;re doing 55 m.p.h., but how do they know? They may actually be going slower.&quot;</p>
<p>Master Sgt. Rick Hector, an Illinois State Police spokesman, says the law could curb some of the anger on expressways caused by slow drivers hogging the left lane.</p>
<p>&quot;For years in our defensive driving course we&#39;ve been teaching that the left lane should only be used for passing,&quot; Hector said. &quot;If you go out driving, it&#39;s easy to tell when there is someone who gets out there [in the left lane] and just doesn&#39;t move over. The intent of this law is to prevent the road rage incidents that happen as a result of that.&quot;</p>Joseph J. Finn commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0089cebc970c2013-11-01T14:16:03Z2013-11-01T14:16:03ZJoseph J. Finn"Left Lane Finn" Thank you, Barry, for the compliment to my safe and legal driving!<p>&quot;Left Lane Finn&quot;</p>
<p>Thank you, Barry, for the compliment to my safe and legal driving!</p>Bruce L. commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b008a0d42970b2013-11-01T14:14:25Z2013-11-01T14:14:25ZBruce L.Yes, hate the people that stand on the left and block the escalator! Hate! For the most part, people at...<p>Yes, hate the people that stand on the left and block the escalator! Hate! For the most part, people at downtown L stops know this but I am often forced to say &quot;walk left, stand right&quot; as I try to ascend the escalator... and I notice that this is always more prevalent on Fridays when there are more tourists in town... stupid tourists ;-)</p>
<p>And yes, I agree with the elevator assertions too; standing in front of the door while going to the top floor is obnoxious and wastes everybody&#39;s time... in the same vein, the people that stand right in front of the L doors but are riding to the end of the line and don&#39;t bother to step out of the train car onto the platform to allow other riders to disembark drives me nuts! I often take my place in the coveted doorway spot but always step out of the car at each station to allow others to get off unimpeded...</p>johnnyruss commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b008a29a8970d2013-11-01T14:14:11Z2013-11-01T14:14:11ZjohnnyrussListened to a Trixie complain about suburbanites one time before mentioning Rockford was her hometown. "So you're a hick?" didn't...<p>Listened to a Trixie complain about suburbanites one time before mentioning Rockford was her hometown. </p>
<p>&quot;So you&#39;re a hick?&quot; didn&#39;t endear me to her.</p>Dienne commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b00886b41970c2013-11-01T10:39:11Z2013-11-01T10:39:11ZDienneMCN - you might be heartened to know that chivalry is alive and well in the building I work in....<p>MCN - you might be heartened to know that chivalry is alive and well in the building I work in. Every man in the building will allow the women to get on first and then, being right by the doors at the other end, they will wiggle and squirm and dance to let the ladies off first. Maybe elevators should be designed to open on the other side at the bottom.</p>Greg J. commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0085b9d7970c2013-11-01T03:50:54Z2013-11-01T03:50:54ZGreg J.@Barry3, Wendy and I enjoy serious political discussions and good natured ribbing in less serious conversations. She gives as good...<p>@Barry3,</p>
<p>Wendy and I enjoy serious political discussions and good natured ribbing in less serious conversations. She gives as good as she gets in both. I was hoping I could also bait the Earl of Lake Forest into the fray but I can&#39;t have it all. He&#39;s a city kid from the west side whereas my roots are suburban, and I&#39;m sure i&#39;d hear all about how he went in the right direction (even though I get to choose from a wider selection of quality drinking establishments). Anyway, I have to channel my inner Royko while I&#39;m still living downtown. The suburbs get most of us eventually.</p>
<p>@Wendy C,</p>
<p>An impressive string of adjectives you put together there.</p>jlp commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0085a184970d2013-11-01T02:29:03Z2013-11-01T02:29:03Zjlp@Jimbo2K7: "clothing, shoes, and body parts can get caught in the gap between the moving step and the stationary skirt"...<p>@Jimbo2K7: &quot;clothing, shoes, and body parts can get caught in the gap between the moving step and the stationary skirt&quot;</p>
<p>When I was a wee child, I sat down on an escalator at Marshall Field&#39;s. Before my mom could do anything, my coat got caught. My fault entirely, but Field&#39;s repaired the garment. Catch Macy&#39;s doing that!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fieldsfanschicago.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fieldsfanschicago.org/</a></p>Mark McDowell commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0084c547970c2013-11-01T01:30:18Z2013-11-01T01:30:18ZMark McDowellWouldn't the European travelers at Ohare just naturally stand on the left? . There really are some high-speed escalators in...<p>Wouldn&#39;t the European travelers at Ohare just naturally stand on the left? . There really are some high-speed escalators in operation. That solves the problem completely, however they can be crowded. People go to the Met Life building just to ride the high speed elevators. They are like amusement rides. </p>Wendy C commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b00850fb3970d2013-11-01T01:15:48Z2013-11-01T01:15:48ZWendy CYeah, this undesirable will be happy to stay away from the rude, boorish, tactless, course, obnoxious, ill-bred, uncouth Chicagoans. Y'all...<p>Yeah, this undesirable will be happy to stay away from the rude, boorish, tactless, course, obnoxious, ill-bred, uncouth Chicagoans. Y&#39;all must be in a hurry because much of your day is spent trying to earn enough money to pay the exorbitant fines, fees and services your city heaps upon you, which are ten times what I shell out in my suburban location. And I don&#39;t have to fight for &quot;dibs&quot; in the winter, either!</p>JL commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0084c8f9970d2013-11-01T00:38:02Z2013-11-01T00:38:02ZJLExpanding on Greg J's downtown comments, if you are a 60-something suburban or Gold Coast lady who has never worked...<p>Expanding on Greg J&#39;s downtown comments, if you are a 60-something suburban or Gold Coast lady who has never worked a day in your life, please understand that most people downtown are not just there to pass the day and *do* need to be somewhere. That applies on the streets, in the Metra station, at the cashier at Corner Bakery, etc.</p>
<p>On elevators, is there something to a man getting onto an empty elevator first to give the woman waiting a diplomatic way to pretend she forgot something and will catch the next one if she really is just nervous about safety?</p>Pan commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b008493c3970b2013-11-01T00:27:51Z2013-11-01T00:27:51ZPanIf you're standing close to an elevator door, get through it and get the hell out of the way so...<p>If you&#39;re standing close to an elevator door, get through it and get the hell out of the way so that the people behind you, whatever their gender, can get off too. I don&#39;t see what&#39;s so complicated about that.</p>MOPerina commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b00844d9b970c2013-11-01T00:26:56Z2013-11-01T00:26:56ZMOPerina If I am really in a hurry, I take the actual stairs which are always empty. However, I also agree...<p>If I am really in a hurry, I take the actual stairs which are always empty. However, I also agree with stand right, and walk left. I am a little leary of escalators because my Dad broke his arm on one when his coat got caught in the belt feeder. </p>Barry3 commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b00844204970c2013-11-01T00:18:06Z2013-11-01T00:18:06ZBarry3GregJ, So suburbanites are undesirables? Look at the voting results from 2012 and you may want to reconsider. BTW, I...<p>GregJ,</p>
<p>So suburbanites are undesirables? Look at the voting results from 2012 and you may want to reconsider. BTW, I think Wendy is a suburbanite.</p>halcyon commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b008413ff970c2013-10-31T23:35:49Z2013-10-31T23:35:49ZhalcyonYes, it's a mark of a civilized society to stand right and walk left! Not just for "type A" people,...<p>Yes, it&#39;s a mark of a civilized society to stand right and walk left! Not just for &quot;type A&quot; people, but those who are in a hurry, or just want the exercise. It would also be courteous to keep to the right on sidewalks and pass on the left. But that&#39;s probably asking too much. Just don&#39;t meander down the middle. And for God&#39;s sake, do not serpentine!</p>Greg J. commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b008397cd970c2013-10-31T22:21:20Z2013-10-31T22:21:20ZGreg J.@Wendy C, You may be right about the danger and lawsuits. However, if the idea of being injured by people...<p>@Wendy C,</p>
<p>You may be right about the danger and lawsuits. However, if the idea of being injured by people engaging in dangerous activity on escalators and moving walkways is sufficient to keep suburbanites and other undesirables out of the city, it&#39;s all worth it.</p>Barry3 commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0083c6ba970b2013-10-31T22:09:04Z2013-10-31T22:09:04ZBarry3I'm just glad to know that Left Lane Finn doesn't think this behavior needs regulating and believes that people on...<p>I&#39;m just glad to know that Left Lane Finn doesn&#39;t think this behavior needs regulating and believes that people on the left side of the people movers should be unimpeded and move as fast possible.</p>JakeH commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0083e42c970d2013-10-31T22:07:09Z2013-10-31T22:07:09ZJakeHDienne: "Since we inadvertently got on the subject of elevators, could I ask you gentlemen not to be chivalrous, at...<p>Dienne: &quot;Since we inadvertently got on the subject of elevators, could I ask you gentlemen not to be chivalrous, at least when getting out? Just get off the damn thing. In much less time it takes you to skooch around and make room for me to get off ahead of you, you could have just gotten off and then we&#39;ll all be off quicker. Thanks.&quot;</p>
<p>I agree with this: ladies first is fine and lovely unless you&#39;re right by the door on a crowded elevator and observing the custom would just get in the way. Also, I think couples should stay together, even if it means that some men, horrors, will disembark before some women. Sometimes I see the male half of a couple wait for all the ladies, leaving his own companion to wander ahead into the wilderness for many seconds completely unescorted and wondering where the hell Steve went. As for the revolving door, I guess I tend to observe ladies first, but of course I try to come to the ladies&#39; rescue quickly with my big muscles. Actually, some revolving doors these doors require even me to put my weight into them, if you can imagine. I think they used to move more freely.</p>
<p>Now let&#39;s talk about night club attire. In my day it was strictly black tie unless it was a special occasion like New Year&#39;s Eve, in which case it was white tie. Nowadays people where sport coats and dungarees, and they drink *beer*! I mean, honestly.</p>
<p>As for escalators, yes, of course, stand right, as any Londoner at a tube station will tell you, sometimes with a rude, downright continental tone and affect.</p>Wendy C commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b00838290970d2013-10-31T21:17:32Z2013-10-31T21:17:32ZWendy CI have a clue for those of you impatient with the users of elevators, escalators and moving walkways. Avoid them;...<p>I have a clue for those of you impatient with the users of elevators, escalators and moving walkways. Avoid them; there are usually old-fashioned options available like stairs, ramps and non-moving walkways. I think it&#39;s dangerous to walk, skip or run around on any moving surface. Seems like the complainers here have lots of indignant energy they should use productively by walking (or running) without mechanical assistance. I&#39;ll bet most of the lawsuits filed by people injured on escalators resulted from contact by a moving individual.</p>MrJM commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b00837daf970d2013-10-31T21:15:14Z2013-10-31T21:15:15ZMrJMhttp://profile.typepad.com/mrjmI have nothing to add to the "stand on the right" crowd's argument other than some profane modifiers. -- MrJM<p>I have nothing to add to the &quot;stand on the right&quot; crowd&#39;s argument other than some profane modifiers.</p>
<p>-- MrJM</p>LizH commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b00833d6a970b2013-10-31T20:58:49Z2013-10-31T20:58:49ZLizHWhen I used to take the el downtown, many years ago, the escalators there were/are wide enough for people to...<p>When I used to take the el downtown, many years ago, the escalators there were/are wide enough for people to stand right, walk left. I still don&#39;t quite understand that need to walk up, but, there was room. Some newer escalators are narrower, so that doesn&#39;t work. But where they are, it should. And, going down is harder to walk down for people like me with bad knees, and anyway, most places are designed by 27 year old architects with good knees, so they don&#39;t think you need an escalator down. Not true! </p>
<p>In elevators, the ones who annoy me are either the ones who get in and stand right in the middle of the doorway (back enough so the doors can close, of course) in spite of the fact that they are getting out last, so they block all others, or people who get on &amp; have to stand in opposite corners &amp; shout past everyone in the middle.</p>
<p>I remember walking in the Pedway from the el to the Aol bldg, where people tended to walk to the right, so there was a side going one way &amp; one the other, unless there was only one of the doors open of the double doors, in which case the one side was too lazy to open that door, and just tried to go through the one open door, oblivious, it seemed, to the people going the other way. Some were so intent on talking on the phone that they actually crashed into people going on &quot;their side&quot;. </p>
<p>The funniest one I saw once was a lady who, at the Addison stop on the Blue line (where the escalators are narrow), RAN to the escalator, STOOD on the escalator to the top, tapping her hand on the rail all the time, then RAN from the escalator to where she was going. There was no one else to stop her from walking up the escalator, and it was just wide enough to walk up the middle. It did look kind of odd! </p>
<p>Once I was riding the el to Cumberland. I sat near the door, and after we left Harlem &amp; went a little ways, started to go to the door to depart. A lady got in front of me, got in the doorway &amp; blocked my exit. Which would have been fine had she been getting off at Cumberland, but she was getting off at Rosemont! I tried (&quot;excuse me!&quot;) to get her to move, but, no. Then as I moved into the other doorway, people were boarding, so I couldn&#39;t get out, and I ended up riding to Rosemont &amp; catching a train back. How rude!</p>MCN commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b00835584970d2013-10-31T20:54:42Z2013-10-31T20:54:42ZMCNDienne: There is very little chivalry left for a number of reasons I won't go into. Be grateful that some...<p>Dienne: There is very little chivalry left for a number of reasons I won&#39;t go into. Be grateful that some men still will open doors for you and permit you to get off the elevatorfirsst.</p>Greg J. commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b00833152970b2013-10-31T20:52:34Z2013-10-31T20:52:34ZGreg J.@Dienne, I agree with that and I think there has to be some unwritten understanding revolving around capacity. If there...<p>@Dienne,</p>
<p>I agree with that and I think there has to be some unwritten understanding revolving around capacity. If there are only two or three people in a large elevator then by all means ladies first. If it&#39;s a crowded elevator and you are jammed so close to the front that you almost lost a treasured part of your anatomy when the doors closed then, yes, step out first when the doors open. For situations in between, use common sense based on the capacity and your position in the elevator.</p>
<p>The trickier situation is with revolving doors. I think that guys don&#39;t want to go first out of habit - even though they realize it&#39;s more chivalrous to be the one to push the door. I think that women are used to going first and interpret any awkward pause by the guy(s) as a signal that she needs to get moving or no one will. What I see happen fairly often is an odd sequence of false starts and hesitations until either the woman or the boldest guy pushes the door. It&#39;s even odder when you realize that revolving doors are intended to eliminate the need to open and close a doorway that gets heavy traffic.</p>Tom Hedeen commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b00834248970d2013-10-31T20:44:52Z2013-10-31T20:44:52ZTom HedeenThe worst are people who stop after stepping off an escalator. All the people behind start backing up.<p>The worst are people who stop after stepping off an escalator. All the people behind start backing up.</p>Tim O. commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0082d394970c2013-10-31T20:39:47Z2013-10-31T20:39:47ZTim O.I'm sure all the people who are standing on escalators only have our safety in mind!<p>I&#39;m sure all the people who are standing on escalators only have our safety in mind!</p>Garry commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0082d2b0970c2013-10-31T20:39:22Z2013-10-31T20:39:22ZGarry@jpn: I'll call your Metra complaint & raise you a few! If you have problems using the stairs on Metra,...<p>@jpn: I&#39;ll call your Metra complaint &amp; raise you a few!<br />
If you have problems using the stairs on Metra, you should board last &amp; alight last.<br />
Otherwise you&#39;re blocking the rest of us. I&#39;ve missed a few buses I was transferring to because of this.<br />
The same goes if you have luggage.<br />
At least at Union Station, you have sensible sliding doors when leaving the platforms to the concourse. At Olgilvie, we have to go through those godawful slow revolving doors that take forever due to the damned office building above. Even worse are the mantrap doors for those with bicycles, luggage or the handicapped. Then at street level on Madison, there aren&#39;t enough doors in the right places!</p>jpn commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0082eecf970b2013-10-31T20:19:10Z2013-10-31T20:19:10ZjpnI stand on escalators, mainly, but stand to the right whenever I can. I don't want to impeded others' progress,...<p>I stand on escalators, mainly, but stand to the right whenever I can. I don&#39;t want to impeded others&#39; progress, if they&#39;re in a hurry, more power to &#39;em.</p>
<p>But the folks who get my goat: the &quot;sprinters,&quot; those goofs who congregate in the vestibule on Metra trains a stop or two ahead of their intended station, then, when the doors open, they leap to the platform and sprint to their cars to try to be the first ones out of the parking lot. Many of them men in suits, or women in sensible heels. Or the people who congregate in vestibules and leap to the platform at Union Station, so they can sprint down the platform right to....the aforementioned escalators.</p>
<p>Two things I never do: sprint to work in the morning, or sprint to my car after work, so that I can get into the stop-and-go traffic in the parking lot sooner. </p>Dienne commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0082c2c5970b2013-10-31T19:58:44Z2013-10-31T19:58:44ZDienneSince we inadvertently got on the subject of elevators, could I ask you gentlemen not to be chivalrous, at least...<p>Since we inadvertently got on the subject of elevators, could I ask you gentlemen not to be chivalrous, at least when getting out? Just get off the damn thing. In much less time it takes you to skooch around and make room for me to get off ahead of you, you could have just gotten off and then we&#39;ll all be off quicker. Thanks.</p>Greg J. commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b00827655970c2013-10-31T19:54:27Z2013-10-31T19:54:27ZGreg J.@Jimbo2K7, Nice catch. People who don't move quickly enough in and out of elevators should be trampled too.<p>@Jimbo2K7,</p>
<p>Nice catch. People who don&#39;t move quickly enough in and out of elevators should be trampled too.</p>Jimbo2K7 commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0082a3eb970b2013-10-31T19:44:48Z2013-10-31T19:44:48ZJimbo2K7Greg, you are welcome to walk on all the elevators you want. That is how you get on and off.<p>Greg, you are welcome to walk on all the elevators you want. That is how you get on and off.</p>Greg J. commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0082259e970c2013-10-31T19:18:44Z2013-10-31T19:18:44ZGreg J.One of my biggest pet peeves when I worked downtown was idiots who stood wherever they wanted to on elevators....<p>One of my biggest pet peeves when I worked downtown was idiots who stood wherever they wanted to on elevators. I agree with Eric, MCN, Dienne and others - walk left, stand right (if you must). If you believe that elevators are not to be walked on and if you don&#39;t believe in the hurry up mentality, please do not come to Chicago. There are places for the slow, lazy, and safety-conscious and those places are collectively known as the suburbs. </p>Jimbo2K7 commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b00826096970b2013-10-31T19:15:31Z2013-10-31T19:15:31ZJimbo2K7Google 'escalator accidents' and check for videos. If that doesn't open your eyes to how dangerous escalators can be than...<p>Google &#39;escalator accidents&#39; and check for videos. If that doesn&#39;t open your eyes to how dangerous escalators can be than I don&#39;t know what will.</p>Joseph J. Finn commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b00825c25970b2013-10-31T19:13:40Z2013-10-31T19:13:40ZJoseph J. FinnPeople who drive in the left lane are already regulated, Bradley, by the speed limit. I've never called for anything...<p>People who drive in the left lane are already regulated, Bradley, by the speed limit. I&#39;ve never called for anything more than that.</p>
<p>I&#39;m with MCN (I KNOW!) on people movers. Stand to the right there as well and get your freaking luggage off the left side for those of us who want to walk.</p>Jimbo2K7 commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b00820934970c2013-10-31T19:06:20Z2013-10-31T19:06:20ZJimbo2K7One of the more serious risks of standing to one side to allow others to pass is that clothing, shoes,...<p>One of the more serious risks of standing to one side to allow others to pass is that clothing, shoes, and body parts can get caught in the gap between the moving step and the stationary skirt, and the escalator is not forgiving.</p>
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<p>Escalators are powerful machines, and although they are very safe, when misused they can tear you to pieces. Encouraging people to use escalators in an unsafe manner is irresponsible.</p>Jimbo2K7 commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0081f86a970c2013-10-31T18:58:36Z2013-10-31T18:58:36ZJimbo2K7The safe way to use an escalator is to stand in the center of the step, hold on to both...<p>The safe way to use an escalator is to stand in the center of the step, hold on to both handrails and keep your feet away from the skirts on both sides of the step. They are not stairs, they are transportation, and are not designed to be walked on. </p>
<p>The pitch and dimensions of an escalator step are intended to accommodate standing, not walking.</p>
<p>How much time do you save by walking up the escalator anyway? 10 seconds? 20? I know we all have busy lives, but seriously?</p>
<p>Walking up a crowded escalator makes it more dangerous for everyone else. It&#39;s a lot like motorcyclists who want to cut through traffic by riding between lanes. Yeah you can do it, but one mistake can be tragic.<br />
</p>MCN commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0081f79a970c2013-10-31T18:58:09Z2013-10-31T18:58:09ZMCNI'll tell you what really p!sses me off: A family of idiots who spread their luggage out on one of...<p>I&#39;ll tell you what really p!sses me off: A family of idiots who spread their luggage out on one of those moving conveyor type walkway belt thingies that take you from one part of the airport to the other. Like those ones in Terminal C at O&#39;Hare. You know the ones I mean?</p>
<p>What is it with you morons? Are you planting an effing garden or something?</p>
<p>I have no mercy with fools like those. Death from above.</p>jlp commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b00824ba7970d2013-10-31T18:47:13Z2013-10-31T18:47:13ZjlpI stand to the right, but I have encountered escalators that are simply too narrow to allow anyone to pass....<p>I stand to the right, but I have encountered escalators that are simply too narrow to allow anyone to pass.</p>
<p>@ Paul - it&#39;s often more difficult to walk down than up an escalator (or stairs) if you have bad knees. Also, escalator risers and steps are differently proportioned than stairs, and the proportions change as you near the top and bottom, which can be problematic for walking if you have balance issues.</p>Carrie commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b008242c6970d2013-10-31T18:42:54Z2013-10-31T18:42:54ZCarrieDefinitely yes, provided that the escalator is reasonably wide enough for two people to pass beside each other. This goes...<p>Definitely yes, provided that the escalator is reasonably wide enough for two people to pass beside each other. This goes double for the airport people movers.</p>
<p>I generally do not walk up or down escalators, because the excess height of the riser compared to a standard staircase, coupled with the fact that I am short, makes me feel precarious.<br />
</p>Bradley commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b008215c7970b2013-10-31T18:40:41Z2013-10-31T18:40:41ZBradleyIs this at all analogous to JJF wanting to regulate speeders in the left lane back in April? Maybe it's...<p>Is this at all analogous to JJF wanting to regulate speeders in the left lane back in April? Maybe it&#39;s the same people who are standing athwart the escalators of progress yelling &quot;Stop walking!&quot;.</p>Pan commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b008227da970d2013-10-31T18:29:22Z2013-10-31T18:29:22ZPanYes. Not only stand on the right, but keep your suitcase or backpack directly in front of or behind you...<p>Yes. Not only stand on the right, but keep your suitcase or backpack directly in front of or behind you so it doesn&#39;t impede anyone.</p>Icarus commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b00817b15970c2013-10-31T17:57:49Z2013-10-31T17:57:49ZIcarushttp://www.chicagonow.com/adventures-house-huntingWell said Dienne. I suspect these people get that they are impeding others....they think others are bothering them when they...<p>Well said Dienne. I suspect these people get that they are impeding others....they think others are bothering them when they are asked to move, sped up, or otherwise vary their actions to benefit someone other than themselves.</p>MCN commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0081df56970d2013-10-31T17:54:09Z2013-10-31T17:54:09ZMCNDienne, what gives? You and I agree? Cats and dogs, living together?<p>Dienne, what gives? You and I agree? Cats and dogs, living together?</p>Dienne commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0081d405970d2013-10-31T17:48:27Z2013-10-31T17:48:27ZDienne"People can't see you coming from the back and so there's the possibility of accidents or worse if you bump...<p>&quot;People can&#39;t see you coming from the back and so there&#39;s the possibility of accidents or worse if you bump into them coming up and cause a fall.&quot;</p>
<p>Yes, but if you were standing on the right to begin with, you wouldn&#39;t be in danger of getting bumped into.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t get the need to impede other&#39;s hurry, whether on the road or on an escalator. Even if you don&#39;t agree with it - why not let everyone else have their own heart attack (and, BTW, they&#39;re probably more likely to have a heart attack fretting that you&#39;re blocking them). Even if you think the person is being reckless (especially if you think so - get out of the way!). Why the need to control other people&#39;s lives?</p>Icarus commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0081d2ed970d2013-10-31T17:47:55Z2013-10-31T17:47:55ZIcarushttp://www.chicagonow.com/adventures-house-hunting--I'm with the please stand to one side crowd. If you must stand, please scoot as far to one side...<p>--I&#39;m with the please stand to one side crowd. If you must stand, please scoot as far to one side as possible so someone can pass you. </p>
<p>What really annoys me is when one person is standing to the left and another person is standing to the right catty corner such that you cannot move around them.</p>
<p>@David P Graf, thanks for pointing this out.</p>Tim O. commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0081c92c970d2013-10-31T17:43:08Z2013-10-31T17:43:08ZTim O.Sorry, but standing in the escalator so others can't pass is extremely rude. Unless it's a person who has good...<p>Sorry, but standing in the escalator so others can&#39;t pass is extremely rude. Unless it&#39;s a person who has good reason to be blocking the escalator (frail, crutches, etc.), I&#39;ll find a way past them. Obviously I don&#39;t want to be a jerk about it, and usually an assertive &quot;excuse me&quot; is enough to get the job done. I spend a lot of time in airports, with their multitude of escalators and moving walkways, and I don&#39;t want to spend any more time on those things than I have to.</p>
<p>There&#39;s nothing wrong with standing on the escaltor/walkway and going for a ride per se, but to force those in back to do it is wrong. I&#39;d also add that most people aren&#39;t doing it because they are insensitive jerks - they just haven&#39;t thought about it. Nevertheless, those &quot;WALK LEFT - STAND RIGHT&quot; signs are there for a reason.</p>Dienne commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b008157ea970c2013-10-31T17:40:48Z2013-10-31T17:40:48ZDienneEvery other major city in the world manages to stand right, walk left. Just not "the city that works". Paul...<p>Every other major city in the world manages to stand right, walk left. Just not &quot;the city that works&quot;.</p>
<p>Paul - It&#39;s not laziness, it&#39;s just that I can walk up a lot better than I can walk down - knee and ankle issues. Unfortunately, at the El stops I use, there are no down escalators.</p>Beth commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b00818daa970b2013-10-31T17:34:10Z2013-10-31T17:34:10ZBethI'm with the "standing on the right" crowd, though I confess I'd never thought of David P. Graf's point about...<p>I&#39;m with the &quot;standing on the right&quot; crowd, though I confess I&#39;d never thought of David P. Graf&#39;s point about bumping into someone. However, that could be avoided by mentioning that you&#39;re passing -- kind of like the bike trail.<br />
</p>David P. Graf commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b00814151970c2013-10-31T17:29:49Z2013-10-31T17:29:49ZDavid P. GrafNo. Escalators are not staircases. People can't see you coming from the back and so there's the possibility of accidents...<p>No. Escalators are not staircases. People can&#39;t see you coming from the back and so there&#39;s the possibility of accidents or worse if you bump into them coming up and cause a fall. Plus, you have to draw a line somewhere against the &quot;hurry up&quot; mentality. However, I do say &quot;Yes&quot; with the people movers at airports which do not angle up but go straight and level minimizing the danger of falls and they&#39;re made wide enough to easily permit passing.</p>MCN commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b0081282b970c2013-10-31T17:17:58Z2013-10-31T17:17:58ZMCNYes. It's the same as when you're driving: slow traffic on the right. There is no excuse. If you're on...<p>Yes. It&#39;s the same as when you&#39;re driving: slow traffic on the right. </p>
<p>There is no excuse.</p>
<p>If you&#39;re on one of those four-story escalators on the London Tube and you&#39;re standing on the left, people will shove you aside.</p>Paul commented on 'Esceletiquette: Should standers keep to the right?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b4ba69e2019b00818ad2970d2013-10-31T17:14:04Z2013-10-31T17:14:04ZPaul--I say yes, but most escalators are too tight for passing. What REALLY bugs me, is people heading down who...<p>--I say yes, but most escalators are too tight for passing. What REALLY bugs me, is people heading down who stand. How lazy do you have to be to not walk down stairs?</p>