Maybe as a suggestion for guides in the future, could there be a dedicated email address for corrections/suggestions? Whilst PMing Neil's not a big deal, if I wanted to send a pic (okay Neil's a bad example since we all know his email), to show what I was talking about, Chocky's interface is not ideal.

On 8/07/2013 pecheur wrote:>Maybe as a suggestion for guides in the future, could there be a dedicated>email address for corrections/suggestions? Whilst PMing Neil's not a big>deal, if I wanted to send a pic (okay Neil's a bad example since we all>know his email), to show what I was talking about, Chocky's interface is>not ideal.

You will find my email address listed in the guidebook - that is the best place to send corrections/new routes etc. It's the same address I have had for since 1994!

On 8/07/2013 ajfclark wrote:>Do you want to know about layout issues? eg. One of the numbers on one>of the pages isn't in the middle of its blue dot like the rest are.

I probably don't need to know about design problems - but if a fact is incorrect (ie numbering is wrong) then please let me know! I do have plans to update this guide in a couple of years time - so these problems can be fixed in the medium term.

Special request for the next edition. Can you include 1 death choss trad route per crag, for shits & giggles? Oh & to keep Macca happy? Extra points if the selected trad route has an aid point in the grade somewhere!

I've did a couple of new routes at Watchmen Wall in the Northern Grampians late last year. Not on theCrag yet, but I'll get that done soon.
Here's what I sent into ARGUS:

Northern Grampians
Watchmen Wall

Loiterer 19m 22
A short, hard crux at the end of easier climbing – sure to be popular with boulderers!
Start as for We Like to Watch. Follow WLTW to its big half way ledge. Climb diagonally left past 2 FHs to the guano stained ledge (Clip the FH up right). Loiter as long as you like, before powering up to the anchors. (5 bolts)
Michael O’Reilly, Ross Timms and Steve Chapman October 2016

Loiterer Left hand Variant* 21m 19
This easier LHV of Loiterer finally provides the much needed warm-up at the cliff.
Start directly as for We Like to Watch, or climb in easily right of the first FH. Follow WLTW to its big half way ledge. As for Loiterer, climb diagonally left past 2 FHs to the guano stained ledge. Clip the FH up right with a sling or long quickdraw. Loiter as long as you like, before traversing easily left to the black groove using big underclings. Clip the FH and up to the anchors. (6 bolts)
Michael O’Reilly, Ross Timms and Steve Chapman November 2016