Some cool ideas, I definitely agree with 1 and 3, though I'm not sure exploring different tones would fly on live-action. Personally I really want to see a series with a consistent tone, at least for the first few seasons. If the show is successful for awhile, then they could go a little nuts after they've established the world.

But why does it have to be on HBO?

I'm sure it sounds schizophrenic when I talk about different tones, but I'm thinking about the ability to experiment, more than you'd be able to do in a single feature. There'd be a more or less consistent tone for the series overall, but you'd have that ability to experiment stylistically.

HBO just because it's HBO, and there wouldn't be the kinds of restrictions or pressures from network TV or even basic cable.

Of course, because you just can't fulfill the promise of Batman without nudity, swearing, and buckets of blood!

Not what I meant, but I get why you'd assume. It's about creative freedom and going where you'd be likely to get the most support and the best input, not the freedom for a ton of gratuitous sex and violence. I don't know why you'd take this (hypothetical) show to NBC or TNT or ABC or wherever else when you could take it to HBO. HBO's not the only option, but in this hypothetical, I'd take it there first, that's all.

But I think that a way to bypass visual effects stuff is to use some smaller effects houses. Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance used a budget of around 50 million and had some pretty good visuals. Also, this could be a chance to use more old school techniques like miniatures and make-up for characters like Killer Croc, Poison Ivy, and Two-Face. And animatronics for Bane.

I thought of another totally random but oddly specific scene I'd love to see on a show. Probably in season 2. After Harvey becomes Two-Face, he meets the Joker. He and Harv would probably have a bit of history by this point, so Two-Face gives him the ol' coin toss, and it comes up good heads. Everyone looks relieved until Two-Face headbutts Joker and proceeds to punch the unholy snot out of him. Two-Face would show how in charge he is, and Joker would still be smiling at the end.

Has there ever been a scene in the comics where Two-Face beat up Joker?

On that note, that's another thing you can do on TV that's a lot harder to do in the movies: watch a wide array of characters and personalities play off each other. In a film, you've got a story to get to.

I thought of another totally random but oddly specific scene I'd love to see on a show. Probably in season 2. After Harvey becomes Two-Face, he meets the Joker. He and Harv would probably have a bit of history by this point, so Two-Face gives him the ol' coin toss, and it comes up good heads. Everyone looks relieved until Two-Face headbutts Joker and proceeds to punch the unholy snot out of him. Two-Face would show how in charge he is, and Joker would still be smiling at the end.

Has there ever been a scene in the comics where Two-Face beat up Joker?

Anyway, I'd say "Fringe", "Person of Interest" and especially "Nikita" are the shows that most have me convinced that a Batman show is doable on network TV. And wouldn't you know it, all three of those shows are from Warner Bros. Television.

It really comes down to money; not cost so much as profit. There's little doubt that an amazing show could be produced on a TV budget, even a full-season network TV budget (which is more than I can say for most A-list superheroes). There's also little doubt that a TV show could be hugely popular. But if WB's accountants calculate that more money can be made with the movies, it'll never happen. If the opposite were the case, if the numbers suggested that a TV show could make as much or more than the movies, WB would make it in a heartbeat.

I think it could even work in the CW network, i also think that a tv show running alongside the movies could benefit both, i think Star Trek used this strategy, either way a successfull movie and tv show can both find new fans, some people that only watch tv shows may become interested in watching the movies, and people that like the movies and want to see more may be interested in the tv show.

Unfortunatelly most studios probably to trust this strategy.

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Plenty of male-led action films fail, yet the actors' gender is not blamed. Why should it be different for women? Especially since far more male-led action films are made than female-led action films?

I think it could even work in the CW network, i also think that a tv show running alongside the movies could benefit both, i think Star Trek used this strategy, either way a successfull movie and tv show can both find new fans, some people that only watch tv shows may become interested in watching the movies, and people that like the movies and want to see more may be interested in the tv show.

This would be a dream come true if they did it, and let''s face it if they did manage to make it work- it would be the biggest TV Show out there. I mean, think about it- the audience for this show would be HUGE.

This would be a dream come true if they did it, and let''s face it if they did manage to make it work- it would be the biggest TV Show out there. I mean, think about it- the audience for this show would be HUGE.

Not really. People like the Batman movies, but I don't think all kids, teens, and adults would sit down to watch a Batman TV show.