PS4 Blowout: GPGPU, DirectX 11; Sony London to “Set the Bar for the Industry”, More

With the PS4 probably coming out next year, and certainly no later than 2014, we’ve been digging around looking for the inside scoop on what exactly you should expect. All of the following is based on publicly available information, rather than shady secret anonymous sources where you have to trust us because we’re games journalists (ha!).
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The PS4 is apparently supposed to be better than the Wii U but a bit weaker than the NextBox, according to this rumor page. Plus both the PS4 and NextBox are gonna have a form of VR. Also, the PS4 won't be called Orbis but instead it supposedly will be called "PlayStation Omni."

Interesting stuff, people.

It's the biggest list of leaked info from a reliable source that I have found.

A buddy sent me this link. And I about flipped when I read through it.

Is there a reason to all the disagrees? Just wondering. Just so you guys know, this is NOT my website. I'm just trying to let y'all in on this info. It's some seriously legit-sounding info. You want to read this, trust me.

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Yeah, it's kinda funny. It's not like I'M saying it. haha It's in the linked article. They shouldn't take it out on me with disagrees. It's not my fault what the rumor is. lol

I think they've learned their lesson with that, but to be fair Killzone 3 looks pretty dang close to that Killzone target video they released back in the day. So, they weren't completely fooling us. Now, as far as that Motorstorm target video, they missed the mark quite a bit on that one. haha Remember all the mud and dust and stuff? I'm sure the PS4 will make KZ3 and The Last of Us look last-gen and I can't wait for it.

Don't know about anyone else buy I cannot wait for the PS4. I think Sony learned a lot this generation and won't be resting on their laurels and come in with an arrogant attitude this time. The launch of games should be much stronger than what we saw on the PS3 as well.

I think Sony is set up pretty well for next generation. They have learned a lot this generation and they have the best lineup of developer talent, bar none.

I just hope they don't make their console too under-powered, under the misguided assumption that it will make them more successful like the Wii. The kinds of 1st party developers under their umbrella--like Naughty Dog, Sony Sanat Monica, and Guerrilla--really need to have a capable system to work with.

Didn't see you and all the other hypocriets (game media) cry when MS showed project nathal for the first time , when the real thing got released it didn't trun to be like those fake videos from E3 .
Did you get blown away with kinect ???

Killzone 2 and 3 don't even come close to that original 2005 video. The fact that so many people (in a certain group within the community) really makes me realize that most people don't have a clue what they are talking about and I have no reason to take anything said in these comment sections seriously.

These are the same people that said that Final Fantasy 10 was the best looking game of the last generation.

What on earth gives you the idea that the PS4 will be less powerful than the Xbox 720? I would think the reverse situation would be more likely, with Microsoft desperate to avoid another billion-dollar loss due to defective and/or overheating hardware, having learned their lesson via the RROD fiasco. You can only stuff a finite amount of graphical and processing power into a compact box without it overheating, and I'm sure Microsoft is fully aware of this.

Not to mention the rumors that the next Microsoft console will sport a seriously weak HD 6670 as its GPU (although I've also heard rumors of Nvidia cards in recent Xbox devkits, so take all rumors with a grain of salt). And, not to mention the fact that Microsoft will probably place a ton of emphasis on pushing Kinect functionality and integration, even more so than they have this generation, as a selling point for the new console, rather than pure hardware horsepower. Microsoft has been showing more and more in recent years that they're prioritizing catering to the casual market rather than the hardcore gamer market.

"Also, the PS4 won't be called Orbis but instead it supposedly will be called "PlayStation Omni.""

It'll be called the PlayStation 4 or I'll be duct-taping something over it that says PS4.

It will be a dumb move on Sony's part if they go with anything besides PS4. "Vita" clearly didn't do any better than "PSP2" would have.

Talked about this plenty of times already, but PS4 has mass name recognition already and extends it to PS5 and beyond. A name change means a lot of wasted time & money building name recognition with the masses aka a lot of lost sales.

PlayStation 1-3 is the highest selling home consoles franchise by far. ~60 million more than all of Nintendo's home consoles (CTVG, NES, SNES, N64, GC, Wii, WiiU) combined. ~100 million more than all of Microsoft, Sega, Atari, NEC, Mattel, Coleco, Magnavox/Phillips, and Panasonic consoles combined.

After what will be three 100mil+ sellers, you go with "4", not Orbis or Omni, lose your name recognition and possibly lose half or similarly large chunk of sales.

I didn't watch the trailer at E3, but at least I provided links to Youtube to support my opinion. What have you got? Did you see the trailer as it was shown in 2005 at E3? What are your claims that "Killzone 2 and 3 don't even come close to that original 2005 video" based on?

Oh you didn't see me when Natal was hyped up eh? Why is that because I was still here??

Clearly you've taken what I said to heart but Sony did pretty much lie to everyone. When prompted about the Killzone tech demo they never answered the question directly and even the likes of John Carmack had to get involved and speculate.

I'm sorry but Sony has a habit of doing this; it did it with the PS2 and PS3. As a fan, you of all people should feel insulted, misleading you like that. But obviously no....you're too busy rushing to their defence as if you owe them your life.

The same criticism goes to MS and Natal. But please tell me, when was 'the real thing released'?? Think before your fanboy rage types nonsense for you.

@above. Come on......really?? Just look at the two trailers. One is blatantly CGI and just all round better. Its the kind of quality you expect from the next generation of consoles, not this one.

The article already explained why the gpgpu is the best possible direction these consoles should take since no matter how fast the cpu and the gpu are there will still be a bottleneck with the time it takes the for data to travel between them. To get around this problem, they chose out of the two which one processes data the best then modify that one to be able to handle the job of the other one while maintaining the same techniques that made it superior.

The convenience of HSA means they can work independently at the same time as well.

It will likely be tied to APU + GPGPU or 2 APUs + GPGPU.

GPGPU or workstation video cards are very expensive pieces of equipment with lots of heat typically I suspect one at 1 Tflop or so will be what Sony goes with alongside APU(up to 1 Tflop) or Dual APUs. Equating to about 2-3 Tflops.

Maybe more if this power talk is true. There was a rumor awhile back of 1.840 Tflop GPU in PS4 kit. Possible that is GPGPU is based on or exactly the AMD FirePro V7900? The V7900 runs with up to 1.86 Tflops or so it has been marked to do so. Its not impossible to imagine 1.84 Tflops from it.

I expect XB3 to come down a similar path close to same end-game. I have a suspicion of NVIDIA ARM APU for XB3 + whatever else is in the system. There is a reason Microsoft has partnered with NVIDIA locking out others from buying them. Maybe its all Windows ARM related, but maybe its not.

@midnighter20c_stf yeah pc, i have a 360 im not hating on microsft, its good for bethesda games and other games which are better that dont have online, but it only had gears, halo, and forza as exclusives this gen not counting the kinect..would have been better off getting a gaming pc..because 1 good exclusive (halo) isnt really worth the purchase. Just stating facts, no fanboyism here. If ms actually has exclusives for durango then ill get it.

The article in no shape or form said the ps4 will get DirectX. According to the article, the ps4 instead will use an api developed by sony london that will have comparable features with DirectX11. Also no one is stopping Microsoft from putting Blu-Ray in the Xbox other than their pride.

@DivineHand125: Not exactly. This is what they said: "That’s why it’s important to hear that Sony are working on an equivalent API if they plan on competing graphically with whatever Microsoft brings out." They never said for sure that the 'equivalent API' with be in the PS4, only that they are working on one. It may be better to just use DX11 to make it easier on 3rd developers. Ports could be a big issue again, if they do not get it right and this could be the new 'Cell' for Sony. Sony could use DX11 and M$ the new Blu-ray.

sounds awesome. though GPGPU is an extension of the Cell concept. The cell just had dedicated cores. Using a GPGPU is going to be no more easy than using the CBE. it just might be more familiar to programmers since it is more generic

Hmmmmmm. A gpgpu in a console. Where have I heard that before? It must be some revolutionary new concept.... In all seriousness, it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Next Xbox used one as well. As usual, I buy all gaming systems that come out. I can't wait to sit Xbox Next and the PS4 next to my Wii U.

GPGPU is not a chip. It is a style of programming where you use a GPU do to CPU workload.... -__-

You could do GPGPU implementation on the GPU's of the PS3 and Xbox but they aren't powerful enough to handle shadings and CPU workload at the same time. PS3 only has 24 cores and the Xbox like 48 but you need like 200 to be able to achieve this.

You mean you fanboys wouldn't want to own all 3 systems? Did I offend some of the Sony fanbase because I don't hate I play other systems as well? I have always been a multiple console owner and I will continue to do so. Why miss out on great games do to blind loyalty?

people are disagreeing with you because you think that GPGPU is a chip. And is not about having one but about if the GPU is capable of it. If the rumored more powerful Xbox has a decent CPU then GPGPU will just be a waste of time... Games like Just Cause 2 have already proven that there is no performance gain by using GPGPU.