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The Leone Family did try to take revenge on Claude in the mission "Under Surveillance." They send three groups of hit squads after him. You are then tasked with killing them all on orders from Asuka Kasen.

As for the future of the Leone Family; Toni Cipriani is the obsessive successor to Salvatore Leone. Joey Leone would not assume the position just because he is Salvatore's son, the mafia does not work like that, Toni was his second-in-command and as such would take over following Sal's death.

One thing I've noticed though - how come the Leones don't have a advisor/Consigiliere?

rebel_36

The Leone Family did try to take revenge on Claude in the mission "Under Surveillance." They send three groups of hit squads after him. You are then tasked with killing them all on orders from Asuka Kasen.

that mission is pretty weird, the subtitles say theyre salvatores men but asuka talks about the fbi.

i guess we will never know which story is the correct one, id assume its the fbi though since its much more likely for r* to have forgotten to adjust a subtitle than cutscene audio..

sgt.slaughter

The Leone Family did try to take revenge on Claude in the mission "Under Surveillance." They send three groups of hit squads after him. You are then tasked with killing them all on orders from Asuka Kasen.

that mission is pretty weird, the subtitles say theyre salvatores men but asuka talks about the fbi.

i guess we will never know which story is the correct one, id assume its the fbi though since its much more likely for r* to have forgotten to adjust a subtitle than cutscene audio..

i guess we will never know which story is the correct one, id assume its the fbi though since its much more likely for r* to have forgotten to adjust a subtitle than cutscene audio..

Don't they use the Leone skin though? That would mean they are Leone hit men, rather than the FBI.

im pretty sure they also use the leone skins for the cia in 'marked man', dunno if theyre exactly the same though, i may check tomorrow..

No. The CIA agents in Marked Man have unique skin and their face looks more like the FBI agents from Vice City with similar hair style.

I think we've established that the Leone Family did seek retribution for Claude's assassination of Salvatore. I'm just wondering why they stopped there - I'm guessing they would be pretty pissed off with him, why stop at one failed attempt?

I would of though Salvatore's death should of been a reoccurring theme in GTA III with Toni Cipriani (as the new head of the family) attempting to take revenge upon Claude multiple times during the course of the story. Though I guess that would of got in the way of the rest of the story.

DiscoverProject

They kinda knew that Claude didn't betray the Leone family and Mafia loyalties being what they are, they probably didn't care as Salvatore was just jealous of Claude.

For the Leone family, it probably went on for a while fighting with the Triads. They possibly move to another city, like the Coreleone family in The Godfather.

No Sal wasn't jealous of Claude. He did not want to make the same mistake he did in San Andreas having Carl joining in the mafia helping them out with the casino and Carl backstabs him by robbing his casino. He didn't want to make the mistake twice so thats why they betray Claude for suspecting to betray Sal.

And also there is another reason why. Last Request mission when they betray you Maria also tells to Salvatore that maria likes Claude, that they were an "item" also called "couple" or "having feelings for Claude." And Sal got pissed and wasn't indeed "jealous" just "Pissed".

And bobgtafan was right, Toni maybe took over the mafia and knew that Claude was going to start big in Yakuza. You gotta understand that theres 3 big gangs. Cartels, mafia, and Yakuza. Mafia and Cartel hate eachother, Yakuza is neutral with everyone. Why avenge somebody's death that was a prick and have both Yakuza and Cartel at your throat. Yakuza and Cartel were sorta hostile but not totally hostile. The only problem with Sal was he was to over powered. He wanted power so much, he wanted to control Liberty City. If it wasen't for Toni in Liberty City Stories, the Leone gang wouldn't last a chance with the Silician Gang. Also Sal's Uncle does say "every dog has its day" as in Sal was going to be killed. which I'm glad Sal is dead because he is a prick, btw Sal is pretty funny in LCS.

chapapote

"Every dog has its day".Do you think Salvatore's uncle would try again to take over Liberty City after III's ending? I suppose it's a better moment than during LCS. With the 3 big gangs beheaded, I suppose there's nobody to oppose him, at least until a new leader takes command of those gangs. But even then, Claude's actions have done a lot to weaken them, I suppose.

Arsen Vitiuk

My theory: After Salvatore's decease the gang slowly decreased into the shadows of the city, just like the Forelli Family. Because neither Toni nor Joey could restore the family's might. Saint Mark's was then taken over by the Diablos and Liberty City Triads, and those two gangs continued to struggle for turf contol between themselves. This could also be followed by Toni, Joey, Misty, Luigi, Mickey and the remnants of the gang leaving Liberty City at all.

IvoryX

Well I think Toni Cipriani would take control of the Leone family because he was a made man and after all what he did in the past (LCS events) but some members would just run away so they would be very weak. Losing territory in Saint Marks, surely Luigi would have big problems with Diablos, Toni with Triads and Joey would just run his garage because he hasn't any enemy after the Forellis disappaered.

Losing territory in Saint Marks, surely Luigi would have big problems with Diablos...

I would even dare to suggest that the Diablos would run Luigi out of Sex Club Seven and take it over for their gang, with Red Light District fully becoming a Diablo Turf as a result - the thing the Diablos failed to do back in 1998, due to Toni's efforts.

In short, the Leones would face a total downfall on all fronts, and in the meantime, this family would cease to exist as a crime family at all.

Linc.

In short, the Leones would face a total downfall on all fronts, and in the meantime, this family would cease to exist as a crime family at all.

I couldn't have put it better myself. And this was referenced in GTA IV (although they're different eras) with the old abandoned mansion in Alderney which is supposed to symbolise Salvatore's Gentleman's Club and the downfall of the Leone Family. They are both even in similar locations comparing them to their respective islands.

Tycek

Another theory made by fans and not based on anything. These two mansions made in totally different style, located in two different places with only similarity of location near the beach are definitely connected

Linc.

Another theory made by fans and not based on anything. These two mansions made in totally different style, located in two different places with only similarity of location near the beach are definitely connected

C'mon Tycek, you of all people should be able to see that it is a clear reference to the GTA 3 Era, similar to the R.I.P. Claude, Tommy, CJ etc. graffiti.

Tycek

Another theory made by fans and not based on anything. These two mansions made in totally different style, located in two different places with only similarity of location near the beach are definitely connected

C'mon Tycek, you of all people should be able to see that it is a clear reference to the GTA 3 Era, similar to the R.I.P. Claude, Tommy, CJ etc. graffiti.

Maybe I should, but this mansion isn't any reference. I agree on graffitis on that building in Dukes, but this mansion is just a building. If R* would like to make a reference do you think it was problematic to create model similar to Leone's Gentleman's Club? This building it's totally different and it's not reference in any way. BTW this theory came up on Wikia as many bullsh*t theories.

Another theory made by fans and not based on anything. These two mansions made in totally different style, located in two different places with only similarity of location near the beach are definitely connected

C'mon Tycek, you of all people should be able to see that it is a clear reference to the GTA 3 Era, similar to the R.I.P. Claude, Tommy, CJ etc. graffiti.

Maybe I should, but this mansion isn't any reference. I agree on graffitis on that building in Dukes, but this mansion is just a building. If R* would like to make a reference do you think it was problematic to create model similar to Leone's Gentleman's Club? This building it's totally different and it's not reference in any way. BTW this theory came up on Wikia as many bullsh*t theories.

Wikia is not bullsh*t, the idiotsonWikia are bullsh*t. I used to be admin over at GTAWiki and it is no worse nor better than Gboyers' Grand Theft Wiki. The guys from GTW (eg. Spaceeinstein, Eganio, Gboyers) left us (eg. McJeff, Ilan, Dan) to pick up the pieces. Don't go bashing Wikia for their baloney theories when GTW has just as many.

Another theory made by fans and not based on anything. These two mansions made in totally different style, located in two different places with only similarity of location near the beach are definitely connected

C'mon Tycek, you of all people should be able to see that it is a clear reference to the GTA 3 Era, similar to the R.I.P. Claude, Tommy, CJ etc. graffiti.

Maybe I should, but this mansion isn't any reference. I agree on graffitis on that building in Dukes, but this mansion is just a building. If R* would like to make a reference do you think it was problematic to create model similar to Leone's Gentleman's Club? This building it's totally different and it's not reference in any way. BTW this theory came up on Wikia as many bullsh*t theories.

Wikia is not bullsh*t, the idiotsonWikia are bullsh*t. I used to be admin over at GTAWiki and it is no worse nor better than Gboyers' Grand Theft Wiki. The guys from GTW (eg. Spaceeinstein, Eganio, Gboyers) left us (eg. McJeff, Ilan, Dan) to pick up the pieces. Don't go bashing Wikia for their baloney theories when GTW has just as many.

Another theory made by fans and not based on anything. These two mansions made in totally different style, located in two different places with only similarity of location near the beach are definitely connected

C'mon Tycek, you of all people should be able to see that it is a clear reference to the GTA 3 Era, similar to the R.I.P. Claude, Tommy, CJ etc. graffiti.

Maybe I should, but this mansion isn't any reference. I agree on graffitis on that building in Dukes, but this mansion is just a building. If R* would like to make a reference do you think it was problematic to create model similar to Leone's Gentleman's Club? This building it's totally different and it's not reference in any way. BTW this theory came up on Wikia as many bullsh*t theories.

Wikia is not bullsh*t, the idiotsonWikia are bullsh*t. I used to be admin over at GTAWiki and it is no worse nor better than Gboyers' Grand Theft Wiki. The guys from GTW (eg. Spaceeinstein, Eganio, Gboyers) left us (eg. McJeff, Ilan, Dan) to pick up the pieces. Don't go bashing Wikia for their baloney theories when GTW has just as many.

Tycek

Best answer ever: Wikia is not bullsh*t, the idiots on Wikia are bullsh*t.

Have you actually read your answer. People are making pages like Wikia, it's not like this page can exist on it's own and create new articles. If idiots are adding articles and bullsh*t theories, whole page becomes not trustworthy. I don't care about beef between you and guys who left you to pick up the pieces (boo f*cking hoo, it brought a tear to my eye), I care about informations. I am not saying that GTW doesn't have any bullsh*t in it's articles, but it's not spreading false info as often as Wikia. And Wikia is the source of all these bigfoots, ratmen, false references and other "myths". I am trusting myself and informations provided by game and it's producers. Wikia or GTW are only worth to check something you are not sure of. They are not good enough to base your beliefs on it.

Mansion in Westdyke is not reference to GTA III era. It's just a building.

OT: Leone Family were probably pushed to defence after GTA III and with Cipriani as a new don they probably continued its existence, but not without struggle. Saint Marks and Harwood belongs to them and their bussiness in Red Light are providing not very big, but stable flow of cash. Generally after event of GTA III all the powers are crippled, so we may as well assumed that police finally destroyed them.