>>102210469
It's 8 years+ but I agree in a sense. It's (if I overstate it) "Lord of the Rings" kind of the story. For all ages but you will most likely savour it more if you are older and can appreaciate how it ignores many standard clichés and such. It's truly great.

>>102210703
It was an enjoyable read, I disliked how that one guy who was actually a noble prince became Itachi for some reason, but it's just one con in a sea of pro's if you get used to the artstyle.
Yet somehow I can't imagine Ares being targeted towards the shounen demographic.

>>102215848>Is this really a pure shounen in category?
SWJ tries to direct HxH towards the shounen demographic, but togashi writes HxH as a shounen in the same way Anno wanted Evangelion to air during children cartoon daytime.

>>102216284>Most shounen will show the deaths offscreen or in a flashback though.
Ironically Togashi didn't even draw the Troupe massacring Kurapica's clan in the special chapter and wrote a description.

LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK BEYOND
YOU CAN MAKE AN UNBREAKABLE BOND
THE WORLD AROUND YOU'S, NOT WHAT IT SEEMS
SO REVEALED, BEYOND YOUR WILDEST.
SO MANY THINGS I NEVER COULD SEE
SO MANY CHOICES FALLEN ON ME
COULD IT BE MY DESTINY?
TO BE SHAMAN KING.

>>102229209
Kid's are incapable of liking anything their friends don't like, which plays a big role in a fickle and overcrowded market and adults don't buy the merch, which is where the live-or-die part of shonen manga is.

It's why almost everything not already popular that could be construed as falling under the shonen demographic ends up published in borderline or outright ero-mags.

>>102232648
not edgy, but pretentious as fuck. so much so, that the only way to enjoy it is to overthink everything and make up connections and foreshadowing that aren't there. if you turn your brain off, it's just regular bad.

Honestly, it's still too early for this manga to go down as a really popular one, but so far this shit has been blowing my mind. The MC alone is one of the most interesting in shounen history. The best part about it is the balance between comedy and the fights.

>>102232481>>102233105
What was wrong with Yu Yu Hakusho's and Rurouni Kenshin's endings? I've only seen the anime for those two (I haven't seen the OVAs or the DEEN episodes for RK yet). Not that I'm disagreeing with the ranking, I'm glad someone here has the balls to admit that neither are that great as people say they are and are both far from top tier manga (especially YYH).

>>102235560
You have a shitty argument. You're assuming that I think there's some kind of meaningful story to be found in OPM, but there's nothing in my post that could imply that. I fully understand that the manga has more of a comedic goal than an action oriented story goal. So what? That's what I find great about it. The action and art in it is nothing to fucking sneeze at either.

I never said Saitama was deep. You're making shit up to try and make your pathetic argument look better. I never said he was unique either. I said he was one of the most interesting, which is to say the timing in the writing from when he switches from humorous/silly to serious is engaging for me and is pulled off very well.

>>102234869
Pretty sure it is. Though Kenshin is far from perfect. Not counting the filler eps (because they're just filler) a lot of the fights fall under the traditional shounen anime trope of telling rather than showing, as characters often stand around talking more than actually fighting, and it doesn't help that the fights dragged on and on with nothing being accomplished for a long while, also a traditional shounen trope.

The series didn't really pick up steam until the Kyoto arc either, although some arcs like Jinei Udoh and Raijuta were enjoyable enough.

You can't be serious anon.
I understand what you're saying about the ridiculousness of the setting of that episode.
However, it was done perfectly and as such turned out to be one of the best episodes in a LONG time.

I wouldn't call myself a Naruto fan and this is only half on topic, but I can't be the only one who thinks it gets a lot of undeserved hate.

Like sure, it doesn't excel at... anything really, but I'd say it's a cut above most of the shounen fight manga that come and go in Jump, as well as several of the mainstays around /a/.

Like, why the fuck do we give Bleach a passable mark? Naruto's characters have a kiddy pool of depth but Bleach's characters are 90% plot devices and 10% PLOT. The power creep isn't nearly as bad as it is in Dragonball or Beelzebub, there's a bit of it but Zabuza is as relevant now as he was years ago as a threat. None of the enemies just come out of nowhere, they all have some amount of lead-up which is more than Gash Bell can talk about.

It's like, yeah Naruto isn't great, yeah Naruto being better than shit doesn't make it worth talking about, but the amount of hate it gets it mindboggling to me considering that we let series that're much worse float around the front page.

>>102245278>Like, why the fuck do we give Bleach a passable mark?
Because Bleach actually has things it excels at and reasons for people to like it. How is excelling at nothing, having kiddy pool depth characters, and 'not that bad' of a power creep a good thing?

>>102245278
It's mostly due to the cancerous fanbase that overrate and overhype the series to death. The same reasons why DBZ was widely hated and bashed as much as Naruto (and Sword Art Online) back in the late 90s-early 2000s.

>>102247085
You do realise that is this point there's just seldom of people who actually bothered to read the entire manga/watch the anime.

Mostly retards who take their opinion about the series from second hand sources. I mean, if you see anybody calling the writing in HnK shit and whatever, try to ask them specifically what and they'll instantly shut up.

>>102247230
I kindly wish to go back to the time where every single person ever has read Hokuto no Ken.

>Recently finished re-watching the first part>Couldn't fully remember what went down with Yuria at the end>Watch the last episode>...I'm sad again now

I still feel that the best evidence personally of how ell HnK was written was Souther, he was an absolute bastard and killer and yet despite that, through the quick backstory reveal of his, I still felt a bit sad that he had to die. Buronson, why do you do this me.

Also HnK invented a lot of Shounen fighting standards so there's that as well.