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BlueStreak wrote:Yeah, more of the "non-regulars" came out for this book than Batwoman. Granted, both were in double digits (we're slowly building toward the first of my three goals for Review Group!).

Here's the crazy thing. Daredevil has (and I'm doing this by memory so it might be off by a digit or two) 16 reviews so far which puts it as the most reviewed book since Nemesis #3. Batwoman had fourteen, which is still a solid amount of reviews. However, the amount of Daredevil reviews doubles the amounts of American Vampire and Hellboy, both of which are highly acclaimed books and indy books that I thought were pretty well circulated.

People are cunts with bad taste in comics, I just had too much going on to review those weeks.

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BlueStreak wrote:Yeah, more of the "non-regulars" came out for this book than Batwoman. Granted, both were in double digits (we're slowly building toward the first of my three goals for Review Group!).

Here's the crazy thing. Daredevil has (and I'm doing this by memory so it might be off by a digit or two) 16 reviews so far which puts it as the most reviewed book since Nemesis #3. Batwoman had fourteen, which is still a solid amount of reviews. However, the amount of Daredevil reviews doubles the amounts of American Vampire and Hellboy, both of which are highly acclaimed books and indy books that I thought were pretty well circulated.

People are cunts with bad taste in comics, I just had too much going on to review those weeks.

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BlueStreak wrote:Good possibility for that, especially with Hellboy. I'm not criticizing by any means. I understand money concerns, trade waiting and all that jazz. (I'm about to make a hefty cut into my pull list due to budget realignment and the realization that there's some stuff I'm just not enjoying anymore) I guess I overestimated the draw of certain books, especially American Vampire, which I thought was generally believed to be one of the best books on the stands today. The Spreadsheet of Doom reveals a lot.

I'm also interested to see how this coming week's pick goes. I'm hoping we maintain our double digit streak.

Verigo, especially because of the (normal) $9.99 first volume has become a major WFT imprint, at least according to the internet. Add to that the fact that the AV book that was picked was the middle of a storyline and its easy to see why it was skipped by many.

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BlueStreak wrote:Good possibility for that, especially with Hellboy. I'm not criticizing by any means. I understand money concerns, trade waiting and all that jazz. (I'm about to make a hefty cut into my pull list due to budget realignment and the realization that there's some stuff I'm just not enjoying anymore) I guess I overestimated the draw of certain books, especially American Vampire, which I thought was generally believed to be one of the best books on the stands today. The Spreadsheet of Doom reveals a lot.

I'm also interested to see how this coming week's pick goes. I'm hoping we maintain our double digit streak.

Verigo, especially because of the (normal) $9.99 first volume has become a major WFT imprint, at least according to the internet. Add to that the fact that the AV book that was picked was the middle of a storyline and its easy to see why it was skipped by many.

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GHERU wrote:Verigo, especially because of the (normal) $9.99 first volume has become a major WFT imprint, at least according to the internet. Add to that the fact that the AV book that was picked was the middle of a storyline and its easy to see why it was skipped by many.

The Red Stands for Irony

GHERU wrote:Verigo, especially because of the (normal) $9.99 first volume has become a major WFT imprint, at least according to the internet. Add to that the fact that the AV book that was picked was the middle of a storyline and its easy to see why it was skipped by many.

All good points.

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by ****** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:27 am

I think Vertigo has given up on the $9.99 first trade thing. AV had that hardcover v1 and iZombie's v1 trade was solicited at $15.

The low number of reviews for AV week was probably a result of it being mid-arc and lacking name creators.

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BlueStreak wrote:Yeah, more of the "non-regulars" came out for this book than Batwoman. Granted, both were in double digits (we're slowly building toward the first of my three goals for Review Group!).

Here's the crazy thing. Daredevil has (and I'm doing this by memory so it might be off by a digit or two) 16 reviews so far which puts it as the most reviewed book since Nemesis #3. Batwoman had fourteen, which is still a solid amount of reviews. However, the amount of Daredevil reviews doubles the amounts of American Vampire and Hellboy, both of which are highly acclaimed books and indy books that I thought were pretty well circulated.

Exactly what I said would happen. People refuse to try new books in a group where the whole point is to try new books and when it comes to picking, there's a contingent of folks who just pick whatever they are already reading without regard to how accessible it's going to be to people not following the book already.

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BlueStreak wrote:Yeah, more of the "non-regulars" came out for this book than Batwoman. Granted, both were in double digits (we're slowly building toward the first of my three goals for Review Group!).

Here's the crazy thing. Daredevil has (and I'm doing this by memory so it might be off by a digit or two) 16 reviews so far which puts it as the most reviewed book since Nemesis #3. Batwoman had fourteen, which is still a solid amount of reviews. However, the amount of Daredevil reviews doubles the amounts of American Vampire and Hellboy, both of which are highly acclaimed books and indy books that I thought were pretty well circulated.

Exactly what I said would happen. People refuse to try new books in a group where the whole point is to try new books and when it comes to picking, there's a contingent of folks who just pick whatever they are already reading without regard to how accessible it's going to be to people not following the book already.

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John Snow wrote:It's at 14k. Vertigo books usually have to drop below 6 to be in trouble.

Of which book we were discussing? But I was speaking of Vertigo books in general anyway, as I am sure that's part of why the $9.99 price point on trades is going away.

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by ****** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:58 am

Victorious Squid wrote:Of which book we were discussing?

iZombie, which has had a fairly decent launch.

But I was speaking of Vertigo books in general anyway, as I am sure that's part of why the $9.99 price point on trades is going away.

They haven't had a $1 first issue in a while either.

With Vertigo's lack of new series to replace the stuff that's ended/been canceled, it's possible that they're already consciously cutting back on the imprint. Air, Unknown Soldier and Greek Street are gone. DMZ and Jack of Fables are right behind them. What is that, a third of the line?

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But I was speaking of Vertigo books in general anyway, as I am sure that's part of why the $9.99 price point on trades is going away.

They haven't had a $1 first issue in a while either.

With Vertigo's lack of new series to replace the stuff that's ended/been canceled, it's possible that they're already consciously cutting back on the imprint. Air, Unknown Soldier and Greek Street are gone. DMZ and Jack of Fables are right behind them. What is that, a third of the line?

Rain Partier

With Vertigo's lack of new series to replace the stuff that's ended/been canceled, it's possible that they're already consciously cutting back on the imprint. Air, Unknown Soldier and Greek Street are gone. DMZ and Jack of Fables are right behind them. What is that, a third of the line?

I know, that's what I surmise/guess and that combined with the editorial people let go and the restructuring over-all is worrying. The dearth of Vertigo books out each month is very noticeable, I agree.

Problem here is I'm not into some of them, and I can't get caught up with Scalped fast enough to buy monthy.

With Vertigo's lack of new series to replace the stuff that's ended/been canceled, it's possible that they're already consciously cutting back on the imprint. Air, Unknown Soldier and Greek Street are gone. DMZ and Jack of Fables are right behind them. What is that, a third of the line?

I know, that's what I surmise/guess and that combined with the editorial people let go and the restructuring over-all is worrying. The dearth of Vertigo books out each month is very noticeable, I agree.

Problem here is I'm not into some of them, and I can't get caught up with Scalped fast enough to buy monthy.

"Being offended is not to be confused with a state of grace; it’s the occasional price we all pay for living in an open society." -- Ian McEwan

Rain Partier

With Vertigo's lack of new series to replace the stuff that's ended/been canceled, it's possible that they're already consciously cutting back on the imprint. Air, Unknown Soldier and Greek Street are gone. DMZ and Jack of Fables are right behind them. What is that, a third of the line?

what was vertigo's last #1?I can only think of 3 in 2010 (IZombie, AV, Daytripper) and all of them were over $1 (i think)

With Vertigo's lack of new series to replace the stuff that's ended/been canceled, it's possible that they're already consciously cutting back on the imprint. Air, Unknown Soldier and Greek Street are gone. DMZ and Jack of Fables are right behind them. What is that, a third of the line?

what was vertigo's last #1?I can only think of 3 in 2010 (IZombie, AV, Daytripper) and all of them were over $1 (i think)

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John Snow wrote:It's at 14k. Vertigo books usually have to drop below 6 to be in trouble.

Sadly we don't know what Vertigo's new standards are. The new Corporate Structure at DC Entertainment has yet to be established, and I would bet you that's coming with a new threshold, titles like DMZ (which is ending next year) and Scalped will probably get grandfathered in, but IZombie is far too young to enjoy such benefits.

Hell, the fact that IZombie isn't going to benefit from the "ease of entry" Price Point of $9.99 is something that raises eyebrows. This is going to have to compete with Morning Glories that'll be released for $9.99 (plus released in such a manner that catching up will be possible), and the result of that competition may not work out for Vertigo.

Why do I have this BAD feeling that IZombie might get Unknown Soldier'd?

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John Snow wrote:It's at 14k. Vertigo books usually have to drop below 6 to be in trouble.

Sadly we don't know what Vertigo's new standards are. The new Corporate Structure at DC Entertainment has yet to be established, and I would bet you that's coming with a new threshold, titles like DMZ (which is ending next year) and Scalped will probably get grandfathered in, but IZombie is far too young to enjoy such benefits.

Hell, the fact that IZombie isn't going to benefit from the "ease of entry" Price Point of $9.99 is something that raises eyebrows. This is going to have to compete with Morning Glories that'll be released for $9.99 (plus released in such a manner that catching up will be possible), and the result of that competition may not work out for Vertigo.

Why do I have this BAD feeling that IZombie might get Unknown Soldier'd?

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by ****** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:14 am

GHERU wrote:what was vertigo's last #1?I can only think of 3 in 2010 (IZombie, AV, Daytripper) and all of them were over $1 (i think)