that difference in numbers between total(EB) and total-india-GC for 2006 is because of a special provision of 50k visas made for schedule-A (nurses). Folks from Philippines and India took a big chunk of those visas. There was a lot of discussion of that on IV, because those 50k were recaptured visa numbers, which instead of being put into the general pool, were all given to schedule-A.

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07-13 10:23 AM

To those guys:

Who are against Ms Murthy or any other law firms please educate yourselves before start whining. I am not going into more detail but I think Delax has fairly explained... Some entities may be working in the background for our cause and can not go public about their activities... You would say how do you know? For that you will have to learn the art of "Reading between the lines" .. And if you can not do that please shut your mouths. Everybody is playing their parts fairly.

It will only take less then 1 minute of your time to click this link ImmigrationVoice.org - Advocacy -- OPPOSE the Sanders-Grassley-Harkin amendment S.AMDT.4319 in bill H.R.4213 which severely hurts Competitiveness, Innovation and creating jobs in America (http://immigrationvoice.capwiz.com/immigrationvoice/issues/alert/?alertid=15130466)

and send the message out

Please post this link on other forums and mail to friends asking them to join this action item.

IF DOS does not make EB2 I C and EB3 ROW current before Jul 2011. ROW world has a quota of 149,200 and pending applications of 100 + 44,800 = 44,900. Lets say EB1, EB3 ROW uses 30K which I doubt will be far less than that, so there will be 70K visas just from ROW to spill to EB3 ROW. If DOS/USICS decides not to waste the Visas definetly EB3 Mexico and India should get a good share of that 70k. This 70k should even be more as there might be some unsed EB1.

THIS IS ALL VOID IF EB2 I C and EB3 ROW becoming Current before Jul 2011 and also if they start quarterly spill over.

Legal Immigrants Voice is a good suggestions, place card was very heavy in future try to make place less heavy :) It is first time around 1000 people gathered for their rights, it was awesome view, and you are demanding your rights in front of number one democratic institution in the world. For movement I can feel what participants might have felt when Martin Luther King gave "I�ve dream" speech on the same ground long time back.

It is not only mathematics of the number or support, It felt good for me, my wife and others, with the help of Immigration Voice, I was a part of movement which is democratic, legal, peaceful and required.

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theperm

03-15 11:46 PM

instead write long letters to USCIS like IV suggested ! thats the place to vent.

Guys, this looks good. It is NOT for illegal aliens. Paragraphs (c) and (d) state that the alien must be admissible as an immigrant (i.e. not have broken the law by being an illegal), read paragraph (d) here:

"(d) Security and Law Enforcement Clearances- The alien, if over 15 years of age, shall submit fingerprints in accordance with procedures established by the Secretary of Homeland Security. Such fingerprints shall be submitted to relevant Federal agencies to be checked against existing databases for information relating to criminal, national security, or other law enforcement actions that would render the alien ineligible for adjustment of status under this section. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall provide a process for challenging the accuracy of matches that result in a finding of ineligibility for adjustment of status."

Read the "or other law enforcement actions that would render the alien ineligible for adjustment of status under this section"....so, anyone who broke the law by entering the country illegally would NOT be eligible.

So, stop sending those letters opposing this bill, and instead let's support it!!

Totally agree with you. All opposed are not getting the point that they do not stand to loose either way. Hope they come to their senses. Anyhow if nothing happens they will be waiting way more than 5 years. This can only reduce the backlogs. Think with a clear mind. You might have a fast car but you can't go fast if the freeway is clogged. THink!

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va_dude

03-19 08:44 AM

Guys... can we drop the whole discussion about this guy's name.

It is no advisable to discuss such topics in public forums on the internet. These keywords attract unwarranted attention.

We should also start using the word Green Card the reporters gets confused by the temp and perm visa or employment based visa... also we should also have designated people to talk to reporters who can explain the problem in nut shell.

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06-11 08:02 AM

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE SEND THE MESSAGE. WE WILL ALSO START WITH THE PHONE CAMPAIGN IN THE MORNING.

Reason being, the other side is writing letters to other Senators to seek their support. They want to see this amendment pass. Here is the letter.

Please Support the Sanders-Grassley Employ America Amendment to the Tax Extenders bill

Dear Colleague:

Since the recession started in December of 2007, nearly 8 million Americans have lost their jobs and the unemployment rate has nearly doubled. In total, 15 million Americans are officially unemployed, another 8.8 million Americans are working part-time only because they cannot find a full-time job, and more than one million workers have given up looking for work altogether.

With the unemployment rate still unacceptably high and millions of people looking for a job, we have a responsibility to ensure that companies do not use temporary visa programs to replace American workers with cheaper labor from overseas.

Therefore, during the consideration of the American Jobs and Closing Tax Loopholes Act, we will be offering an amendment that would prohibit companies which have announced mass lay-offs over the past year from hiring guest workers, unless they can prove that their overall employment will not be reduced as a result of these lay-offs.

At a time when millions of Americans are out of work, the notion that we need to import labor from abroad because there are not enough qualified, willing or able American workers in this country rings hollow.

Recently, some of the very companies that have hired tens of thousands of guest-workers from overseas have announced large scale lay-offs of American workers. The high-tech industry, a major employer of H-1B guest workers, has announced over 330,000 job cuts since 2008. The construction industry, a major employer of H-2B guest-workers, has laid-off 1.9 million workers since December of 2007.

The American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan, signed into law last February, included a provision to prevent companies receiving assistance through the Troubled Asset Relief Program from replacing laid-off American workers with guest-workers from overseas.

The Employ America Act expands upon this provision to prevent any company engaged in a mass lay-off of American workers from importing cheaper labor from abroad through temporary guest-worker programs. Those companies that are truly facing labor shortages would not be impacted by this legislation and could continue to obtain employer-sponsored visas. Only companies that are laying-off a large number of Americans would be barred from importing foreign workers through guest worker programs.

If you would like to co-sponsor this amendment, please have your staff contact Warren Gunnels in Sen. Sanders� office at 8-6358 or Kathy Nuebel Kovarik in Sen. Grassley's office at 4-3744.

To all those who are screaming and shouting about "IV collecting Donations and doing nothing", I am not a donor myself, but we have to understand that IV IS THE ONLY platform we (EB community) have. However shaky or small the platform is. It takes a different kind of person to doggedly keep at something as insipid and difficult and immigration relief for EB and to put up with all the brickbats that armchair immigration proponents and to be beneficiaries like us throw at the IV core.

Pappu, I have put forth this idea many times, and will do so again, let IV be a members only forum, with a REASONABLE annual subscrition amount (say equal to themonthly cost of a decent cable/satellite subscription:-)..

This will achieve the following: (1) Assured, stable fund collection for IV activities (2) Only genuine IV supporters will sign up. (3) To some extent, may be, will keep antis away (this is not assured, but may happen)

...Its Friday, so pickup a 6-pack, 12 pack or whatever pack on your way home, and relax...

$25 a month is reasonable. What people want it GC in $25 in less than 6 months. Somehow these same guys do not mind paying lawyers $700 for EAD filing which they could do themselves. In other words they trust lawyers who are clearly have a self interest in you not getting a GC but will not trust one of your kind because these guys think their crummy $25 is being flinched.

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10-20 01:06 PM

Hello there, I cant less concur to what you jsut said, if someone has something to say and critique , they can very well post their response or send a private message.

Anyways the focus is the campaign. Have we decided on what and when we should do this flower campaign?

I request all IV members, to please unite and do something, we all need to be mobile and create more awareness.

Have we all forgotten how much publicity we got in 2007? lets all wait till the election day is over and the right candidate is elected.

Then we should plan a rally.

I am lucky, because I work hard. We all can be lucky as well, all we need to do is, work hard on these rally's. A flower campaign, a rally and maybe someone earlier suggested the EB community should take one day off work and attend that rally. This way, they will understand our Importance

How stupid can someone be to give me a red for my previous post.

Now for this. Why should someone hide behind a red dot (just to say "you suck" and things like that). Most, if not all, red dots are personal attack on the person rather than the post. The very few reds which actually are justifiable are the ones where someone is given the red for his offensive remarks.

I realize that a side discussion on red dots is not germane to this post, but it is the participants in the discussion here who have brought it up. As evidenced by so many posts that keep happening now and then, some feel bad to post when people intimidate them with reds. Of course, some may say that red dots doesn't matter, but to a new member (who has contrarian views), getting red pretty much means some people are not going to take them seriously.

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06-12 08:37 PM

Jeo laal Jeo.... I totally agree with you. I want to see these h1 b restrictions that have been applied in the CIR pass. It will be fun...

I do not think that they above restrictions will be in the CIR bill for H1-Bwhen it passes. We know, the tech companies know and most of the law makers know that they need us.. There will be an H1-B increase, restrictions removed and there will be a provition made in parallel to the merit system for EB green cards.

Our job is to get backlog relief.. How we do it is the question....

dont count on the restrictions being removed, the restrictions are the trade off to the major increase that is goin to take place for the h1b's , the biggie US companys are not gonna get affected by them, its only the indian IT and the desi bodyshoppers, so they wil support it as long as they get the h1b's.

logiclife

01-30 01:07 PM

Unpaid bench means you are "Out of Status". Not illegal.

When you are present in the country after your I-94 has expired, then you are illegal.

There are 3 things guaranteed in life: Death, Taxes and unpaid bench when working for a desi company.

Whether you will go on bench or not depends completely on you, your skills, your willingness to find jobs across the country (not just where you live), your willingness to travel and the biggest factor : Market conditions. Right now, the market is good, and if you live in a big city with good opportunities, and if your skills are good, then you may be able to find a project wherever you live.

If the whole thing doesnt work out, then you can always go back on H4.( If you stop working, you have to file for H1 to H4 transfer also, its not automatic, many people have learned this the hard way)

About stamping, well, that's a question I really dont know the answer to. I have not heard of many examples or questions about what happens when a person on valid H4 applies for a H1 stamp. Someone here, if he/she has experience may be able to answer.

ash123

02-12 03:41 PM

FYI .. This post is what I received in e-mail few days back.

I would like to bring to the notice of your readers, editorial committee and leaders of the Indian community of a systematic way that (legally) the US Government is practicing legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and Chinese and other H-1B visa holders.

While it is agreeable that the current economic downturn is the worst one has seen. It is time to band together with what resources we have and make it thru this perfect storm. However, the machinations of a few politicians and the further connivance of the USCIS, we are about to see a systematic 'legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and other foreign professionals'.

Leaders of the ethnic Indian community should take up this issue. Leading Indian attorneys such as Chugh Firm, Khanna Firm, Sheela Murthy, and leaders like Dr. Romesh Japra and Yogi Chugh etc should do something about this with their contacts at the highest levels.

How is this happening and why is it ethnic cleansing?

Since 1990's every year several thousands of Indian professionals come to the US. Because of delay in processing of their Green Cards a vast majority of them are on H-1B.

With the current downturn, Sen. Grassley et all have raised such a stink that companies are forced to lay off H-1b holders first before they lay off any other US employees. While the US employers may not always do this. They are being shamed into revealing how they laid off US Citizens before laying off others. Net Net....Indian professionals are being laid off from large companies (ofcourse, along with layoffs of US citizens and Green card holders as well).

Now, having been laid off, H-1b holders are forced to leave the country within 10 days if they do not find another job. Now, many are forced to leave the US as they cannot sustain living in the US. However, some enterprising few are finding lower paying jobs or are finding so called 'body shopping companies' to file their H-1b transfer in anticipation of staying around till the economy improves and they can find suitable jobs. Here is when the systematic targetting and ethnic cleansing is coming to the fore. The USCIS in the past which did not, out of the ordinary question such H-1b transfers. is raising Request for Evidence (RFE) from these companies.

These RFEs are raised in such a way that it is impossible to answer them. They are thus not only targetting the H-1b candidates, they are systematically undermining the people (companies) who want to help out H-1b candidates out of their predicament of being stranded.

Imagine living in the US for the past 8 years. Owning a home, then getting in line for the Green Card. You are close to getting the green card but because of backlog you only get what is called the Employment Authorization Card (EAD). So, you continue to be on H-1b status. Then your employer fires you....

There are two paths here.....Technically, with a EAD card you can get employment anywhere with what is called US AC21 Portability.However, AC21 EAD portability comes with the need that a person with EAD should have another job with the exact same profile and same salary. In this market who is going to give you a job with this exact profile as your old job. The only way for a person to stay on 'legally' is to file a backup H-1b.

Thus a person in the 'last stages' of his green card also actually ends up joining a fresh h-1b software professional.

Now, what will the USCIS do? They will ensure that they find some issue with the RFE response provided by the 'body shopping company' and issue a denial of H-1b extension.

The body shopping companies are trying to be the Raoul Wallenbergs (helping with visa when a person is in distress - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raoul_Wallenberg). However, the USCIS will ensure that literally hundred thousand Indian and Chinese professionals are kicked out of the US. The same professionals who came to US to contribute to its success will now be kicked out of US against their wish. The companies who are willing to help them will also be harassed in the bargain, some of those companies will be investigated for non-payment of wages, some of them will be subjected to USCIS audits for trying to help these helpless people whose lives are being uprooted.....I am not in any way saying that lives of US citizens is not being uprooted. These are very tough times and there is no reason to pick on the helpless, unrepresented people.

This is as un-american as it gets. US is famous for its chivalry. Over 5000 lives have been sacrificed in Iraq to foster democracy and fairness in that part of the world. This is an un-American as it gets. This is a planned lynching and killing of the 'spirit' of the foreign worker who came to US dreaming of making it the American dream and participating/contributing to its success.

What should the USCIS do?

Given the tough times...They should allow people to stay on in the US as long as another employer is willing to keep them in status. They should not question the H-1b applications as everyone knows that USCIS can find issues with every single H-1b extension filed right now with their respective offices. As someone said - Rejecting a H1b now is like issuing speeding tickets at INDY 500. Even the largest companies such as Microsoft and IBM can have their H-1b applications rejected by the USCIS with the silliest of excuse.

What is in it for the USCIS not to do this ethnic cleansing?

Long term vision for America not just right now. This year the US Embassies in India issued over 98,000 visas to students from India. These are students who are paying their way thru education in the US (a country with the most expensive but best education). If it turns out that US specifically targets Indians for 'special h-1b rejection treatment' literally half of them will never aspire to come to the US within the next 2 or 3 years.

Right now the economy is bad, but it will improve: It is a 'perfect storm' right now which is causing this downturn. The economy will surely improve in the next few quarters. There will then be new sectors of the economy that will boom that will need professionals. There will be enough work by then for these H-1b professionals as well as US residents.

Confident and free people contribute positively: If the word spreads that even in bad times this society did not turn on them then the US people will be appreciated. But, if the message is, when you are down they will kick you where it hurts, then this society will not succeed. Just imagine, there are at least 250,000 (maybe more) people of Indian and Asian origin who would end up buying a house if they knew for sure that they could continue to live without the fear of being 'ethnically cleansed'. Most Indians and Asians save money and do not splurge. Just this measure of confidence will ensure that they will spend money in the US economy. Just their contributions will ensure that there is a bump in the housing sector.

Finally, As they say - "Those who do not learn from history are forced to repeat it". The US is perpetrating a betrayal of people who could contribute to its success in the long run. But, what they are getting is a form of 'systematic and legally driven ethnic cleansing' - they are being identified and driven out of the country which they have loyally served for varying periods of time.....