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Basketball - NBC SportsTue, 03 Mar 2015 19:28:28 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: tontoepsteinhttp://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/07/luol-deng-andrew-bynum-trade-could-backfire-on-both-chicago-bulls-and-cleveland-cavaliers-in-short-term/comment-page-1/#comment-266609
Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:02:53 +0000https://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=690840#comment-266609Deng, you’re right. Irving, you’re wrong. Guys never leave after their first contract, they leave after their second.
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Wed, 08 Jan 2014 15:41:54 +0000https://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=690840#comment-265883No one will come to the Bulls or Cav’s as a free agent.
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Wed, 08 Jan 2014 07:44:33 +0000https://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=690840#comment-265804The stat that drives this post is misleading. The fact that in most years 66% of teams three games into playoff contention make the playoffs is moot.

The situation this year in general and with these two teams in particular renders it so. In most seasons, a team three games into the playoffs would not be trading off their best active player for nothing and a team 3 games out of the playoffs would not be trading for a 2 time All-Star.

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Wed, 08 Jan 2014 01:17:40 +0000https://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=690840#comment-265749Is this the first year you’ve followed the NBA?
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Tue, 07 Jan 2014 22:34:27 +0000https://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=690840#comment-265726Another dumb move by Chicago’s management team and it will backfire. Who will sign with Chicago who will be better than Deng? I can’t think of anyone and amnestying Boozer will free up cash to pay whom? Cleveland will be better this yr, but will Deng stay? Maybe, and this could work out for the Cavs if he does but definitely not Chicago. They should fire both Forman and Paxson after this fails.
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Tue, 07 Jan 2014 22:11:17 +0000https://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=690840#comment-265717This may the first year in NBA history where several teams fight desperately to NOT make the playoffs, in particular the final two spots in the East….Two home playoff games getting dismantled by Miami or Indiana will not be nearly as valuable as a lottery pick…..
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Tue, 07 Jan 2014 21:43:16 +0000https://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=690840#comment-265702Deng must be thrilled to get out of Chicago, where the entire team is constantly dragged down by Rose’s injury situation.

At least he is on a team now that controls its own destiny this year. They may not be good enough to win anything big, but they have all their pieces on the floor, and their money isn’t tied up in a multi-year physical rehab project.

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Tue, 07 Jan 2014 21:25:16 +0000https://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=690840#comment-265699Yeah, I’m not sure how it could backfire at all. I mean, it might not work out exactly as planned. But the bulls have tax relief, money under the cap to spend next summer, and some extra picks, and the cavs gave up a player they were going to waive and a pick that might not even be a first in 3 years (that isn’t theirs) to pick up what is at worst a rental player. It gets even better if they can resign Deng.

Maybe if Bynum magically becomes a monster basketball player and wins a championship, or if Deng goes somewhere and knocks the bulls out of the playoffs with a game 7 buzzer beater. Those would be backfires. But neither thing is happening in the short term.

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Tue, 07 Jan 2014 19:36:48 +0000https://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=690840#comment-265658Yes obviously the records make it a possibility that the bulls will make the playoffs and the cavs won’t, but how does that mean the trade backfires?
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Tue, 07 Jan 2014 19:26:01 +0000https://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=690840#comment-265653Deng isn’t going to stay in Cleveland. Irving isn’t either. Not being mean, just realistic.

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Tue, 07 Jan 2014 18:58:00 +0000https://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=690840#comment-265649“In the last five 82-game seasons, two-thirds of teams within three games either side of the playoff cutoff 70 days into the season have remained on the same side of the cutoff when the season ended.”
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Tue, 07 Jan 2014 18:57:09 +0000https://nbcprobasketballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=690840#comment-265648Of course current records have predictive value for who makes the playoffs, but most teams in that sample maintain the same roster strength.

Deng brings a solid +5.0 simple rating, which would easily be the highest of any Cavs player (Varejao and Waiters are the top 2, Irving 3rd!) and definitely a huge upgrade over Gee and Clark at the 3. All starters would then in theory be above 0, not bad… and could definitely be a significant enough change to get them in the playoffs of the lame East…