To remove arty, simply allow a check box for matchmaking that says "play with arty" --- this way arty players can play with whomever wants to play with them, and war gaming doesn't need to refund anything to people who invested in these arty tanks.

obviously a refund scenario is the major holdback from ever changing arty, so this is why i made a realistic proposition.

How about a check box for playing without whiney [edited]? That would be better.

i try to CB. Ever tried it? You.ve got to be looking almost right at the tracer to get a aim point. On a 40 second reload, you can't wait more than two shots before you have to move on to that heavy or blue guy everyone on your team is pinging because he's eating them alive.

You buttheads play this both ways.. try to get their best players and you're XVM sniping. Try CB and you're ignoring team mates requests for help.

yeah, there's a bad joke here... looks remarkably like you.

​Just another chimp arty player that needs to be safe for an entire game and fling your poo at real tanks trying to play a tank game. Ever wonder why 2 seconds after spawn with no arty everyone rejoices? That's because no one wants to get hit by something they have no chance to fight back against. Don't even say anything about a hidden td you chimpete. That TD still needs line of sight to hit.

Edit - If you xvm snipe in an arty you are the lowest form of dbag arty and one of the biggest reasons xvm needs to be banned. Proves beyond a shadow a doubt what type of player enjoy arty. I bet 500g that you don't xvm hunt those same blue/purple players when you play a real tank. They would open your tank up and send you back to the garage in under 2 minutes. Also just took a look at you on wotlabs, Yeah 300+ games in the SU-26.

To remove arty, simply allow a check box for matchmaking that says "play with arty" --- this way arty players can play with whomever wants to play with them, and war gaming doesn't need to refund anything to people who invested in these arty tanks.

obviously a refund scenario is the major holdback from ever changing arty, so this is why i made a realistic proposition.

Nah! No refund needed. WOT can simply ship to every arty players house, a keyboard with instructions on how to apply significant and consistent pressure to the WSAD keys and how they are associated with movement. Once they learn that they won't need arty anymore and they will naturally disappear

i try to CB. Ever tried it? You.ve got to be looking almost right at the tracer to get a aim point. On a 40 second reload, you can't wait more than two shots before you have to move on to that heavy or blue guy everyone on your team is pinging because he's eating them alive.

You buttheads play this both ways.. try to get their best players and you're XVM sniping. Try CB and you're ignoring team mates requests for help.

yeah, there's a bad joke here... looks remarkably like you.

FYI, look for tracers during your reload, not while you're loaded with important targets lit. Once you've narrowed down where the enemy arty may be, then you can watch for tracers while loaded.

Probably the two biggest issues with CB right now are how weak the tracers are, especially with lower graphics settings, and how easy it is to only damage rather than kill the target.

I bet more than half of you arty whiners are sit in back do nothing to help the team because you can't even see what gets lit up TD players.

​Actually I spend most of my time playing medium tanks. Medium play is much more "dynamic" than the other classes. Sadly some chimp flinging poo normally ruins any chance to engage the enemy using cover/rig lines. Even flanking is not viable since most times when flanking you will be exposing yourself to chimp poo. Hell, it seems arty doesn't care if they hit team mates when firing into close quarters combat. Nothing like eating a 20+sec stun from a "friendly" arty "just trying to help". Guess what arty? You can help by playing a real tank!

To remove arty, simply allow a check box for matchmaking that says "play with arty" --- this way arty players can play with whomever wants to play with them, and war gaming doesn't need to refund anything to people who invested in these arty tanks.

obviously a refund scenario is the major holdback from ever changing arty, so this is why i made a realistic proposition.

Viper69, on Sep 10 2017 - 16:41, said:

I think anyone who owns an artillery piece should have to play against artillery all the time and those of us who don't own them anymore or never have owned them get preferential non artillery included matches . Although it will add yet another algorithm to the already taxed match maker on the NA server.

So what you're is we should basically take arty off the support class it was made to be, and have it go against its true nature in an all arty battle? On a scale of 1 to Braindead how clueless are you?

So what you're is we should basically take arty off the support class it was made to be, and have it go against its true nature in an all arty battle? On a scale of 1 to Braindead how clueless are you?

To remove arty, simply allow a check box for matchmaking that says "play with arty" --- this way arty players can play with whomever wants to play with them, and war gaming doesn't need to refund anything to people who invested in these arty tanks.

obviously a refund scenario is the major holdback from ever changing arty, so this is why i made a realistic proposition.