SparkFun Electronics Commentsurn:uuid:214d0e4e-f1b1-d287-ce26-ac5b4c9f82492016-12-09T06:36:10-07:00SparkFun ElectronicsCustomer #786425 on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardCustomer #786425urn:uuid:9ef6b0cf-82d3-24a6-b187-33235894af952016-06-18T04:18:05-06:00<p>I&rsquo;m super new to these stuffs and I&rsquo;ve been wondering&hellip;do you need a battery for this? Or will it actually charge(and would last) after being connected to a computer? Or does it actually even need a battery to be operable even if connected to a PC?</p>bboyho on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple Boardbboyhourn:uuid:a75e8a07-2d84-a17e-bf9d-33f903b1e9dc2015-11-02T12:03:26-07:00<p>It looks like in the board layout and the schematic that the application circuit for the charger IC does not power the bluetooth through the FTDI header pins. To get the bluetooth mate working with the LilyPad Simple board, you would need to reroute the pins so that you can provide power to the bluetooth mates <a href="https://www.sparkfun.com/search/results?term=bluetooth+mate" rel="nofollow" >https://www.sparkfun.com/search/results?term=bluetooth+mate</a> .</p>
<p>Assuming that you are soldering a 6 pin female right angle <a href="https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9429" rel="nofollow" >https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9429</a> to the bluetooth plated through holes, you would need to connect the m/f jumper wires <a href="https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9140" rel="nofollow" >https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9140</a> between the two boards (Tx, Rx, and GND).</p>
<p>For the Vcc pin of the bluetooth mate, you would need to connect it to a power source. Assuming you are using a nominal 3.7V LiPo battery (like the batteries with the silver and yellow packaging - <a href="https://www.sparkfun.com/products/339" rel="nofollow" >https://www.sparkfun.com/products/339</a> ), you would just need to connect the Vcc pin to the + pin of the LilyPad Simple. There are a few methods to do this. You could us a m/m jumper wire <a href="https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8431" rel="nofollow" >https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8431</a> , bend one end to make a sequin, and sew the terminal end to the + pin of the LilyPad . Here is one example of making a sequin using non-standard LilyPad components <a href="https://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/281" rel="nofollow" >https://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/281</a> .</p>
<p>You can also cut the m/f jumper wire in half, use wire strippers to remove the insulation, and then make an additional sequin out of the wire with the male terminal.</p>Customer #707862 on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardCustomer #707862urn:uuid:3e6fb6a8-8c0c-b28f-0845-1bf0d57b15412015-09-14T16:52:29-06:00<p>It would have been helpful if there was a link or even a note that a device like the FTDI Basic Breakout would be needed to communicate with this board.</p>
<p>Here I linked it:
http://sfe.io/p9716</p>
<p>It&rsquo;s a major disappointment when I&rsquo;m trying to learn all this stuff and now have to wait for another part to arrive before I can assemble my project. Help streamline this stuff for us by adding the link in the description.</p>LightManCA on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardLightManCAurn:uuid:80fbeaad-80e2-97b3-4c3d-2ee7fae067222014-10-15T18:55:28-06:00<p>Hello.</p>
<p>If the device is connected to a lipo battery, how much power (ma) can be output on the &ldquo;+&rdquo; pad? Is it directly connected to the battery, or is it like the regular Arduino +3.3 pin that would have a significant limit on the power it can provide?</p>Naoz on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardNaozurn:uuid:a211c5f3-e6f9-7c4e-1042-a7f9d459dbd02014-10-15T07:09:10-06:00<p>Hi everyone, I was wondering if this product will charge the Polymer Lithium Ion Battery - 2000mAh? Also if I&rsquo;m looking into more power, will it be able to power the Polymer Lithium Ion Battery - 6Ah?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>Customer #339096 on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardCustomer #339096urn:uuid:f3befaee-9a1a-9fdf-77bd-89ac1180502e2014-04-11T18:30:50-06:00<p>Can this Arduino be used with I2C? I&rsquo;d like to read analog input from an MMA8452Q, Triple Axis Accelerometer. https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10955</p>
<p>The data sheet doesn&rsquo;t specify I2C pins, like the Lilypad USB, are they still built in?</p>RobertC. on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardRobertC.urn:uuid:ecf6f857-35bb-86b9-4514-dd67556dd3be2013-08-13T17:51:59-06:00<p>it really depends on what you&rsquo;re doing. it&rsquo;s going to be pretty minimal though. your best best would be to hook it all up, and then just test how much the current draw is. from there, you can calculate how much battery capacity you need for the desired number of hours.</p>geet on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple Boardgeeturn:uuid:d5fa75c9-9d28-e84c-2803-6e414a7dac772013-08-13T16:15:56-06:00<p>I am trying to build a simple LED blinking project and it will have to solely operate on the batteries for several hours. I am trying to figure out how long can I keep the project going on the battery. Any idea how much current the board alone consumes?</p>SFUptownMaker on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardSFUptownMakerurn:uuid:e5782ef8-1ee4-5e43-bf07-845ab47f48ce2012-11-29T12:01:06-07:00<p>You&rsquo;re right- it won&rsquo;t. The Arduino LilyPad mainboard will work still, so if you need Bluetooth connectivity, you&rsquo;ll have to use that board.</p>
<p>We&rsquo;ll try and fix it in a later rev.</p>katehartman on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple Boardkatehartmanurn:uuid:7dbc701b-a314-4ffc-2fea-3471a3fe45c52012-11-28T15:01:11-07:00<p>The addition of the charging circuit is super handy. However, since it&rsquo;s been added it seems that the Bluetooth Mate isn&rsquo;t able to get enough voltage when connected via the FTDI headers. Is anyone else having this problem?</p>Customer #310535 on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardCustomer #310535urn:uuid:7bf2466a-9dd5-42af-18c5-42c75356d9762012-11-21T11:02:31-07:00<p>You&rsquo;ll need to lift pin 20 (ARef) - it&rsquo;s tied to Vcc on the board. See figure 23-1 and section 23.5.2 in the datasheet (http://www.atmel.com/Images/doc8161.pdf).</p>Customer #62923 on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardCustomer #62923urn:uuid:baa0fcc1-5016-8cb5-3528-26d944a6d47a2012-11-05T21:37:31-07:00<p>I was checking the schematic and noticed that the R_prog resistor is set to 1K ohm. Is this correct? According to the MCP73831 datasheet, 1K R_prog corresponds to a charging current of 1 amp. This sounds quite a lot and will probably charge the battery too fast. Any idea?</p>RobertC. on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardRobertC.urn:uuid:a81601db-b032-8b8e-2806-6880676040f32012-09-26T16:01:28-06:00<p>oh, you&rsquo;re correct, it indicates charging, not power.</p>Kamiquasi on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardKamiquasiurn:uuid:775ffc04-bc8f-a8a9-5f10-65ed02d2163b2012-09-26T15:59:03-06:00<p>I just answered a question about the LiPo charging circuit in another product, and your comment made me wonder; You say that the LED (D4) is on the voltage regulator - but it&rsquo;s actually on the mcp73831 Li-Po charge management controller. Specifically, it&rsquo;s on the STATUS pin, which should mean that it does actually indicate charging status?</p>Customer #171004 on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardCustomer #171004urn:uuid:a818bb2d-78c9-03cb-a211-72fb366d5d662012-08-24T01:36:19-06:00<p>I am trying to use this internal analog reference on this board</p>
<p>via AnalogReference(INTERNAL) command, which i expected to be 1.1v reference, it doesnt seem to be. It still seems to be using supply voltage (which is a pain since I am trying to measure the supply voltage).</p>
<p>Does anyone know whats going on here? Or what the internal voltage ref actually is?</p>Customer #341993 on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardCustomer #341993urn:uuid:9bdaee34-faf5-5d56-0b36-b097c63bb2582012-08-09T18:37:23-06:00<p>If you are planning on using SPI, as for example with Total Control Lighting, you will need to connect to the SCK pin on what would be D13 on a through-hole on the back of the board. It does not connect to a pad. It is not solder masked so you can solder to it. You can figure out which one it is by tracing from the surface mount LED back through its resistor.</p>
<p>I have managed to solder to this twice on two boards with good results. Then I applied a ton of hot glue to keep the wires from pulling off.</p>M-Short on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardM-Shorturn:uuid:7a7e2be5-3dc2-5f81-6527-0e046daae3142012-07-27T09:45:07-06:00<p>The SPI pins are always broken out somewhere, it might be a test pad but they are always broken out. The chips come in and are always soldered to the board unprogrammed, so we always need access to the SPI pins to get the bootloader on the board. Check the schematic and Eagle files, I think there are test pins on the board which you can solder to if needed.</p>HelloTechie on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardHelloTechieurn:uuid:579909e2-8f5b-a7fe-3879-0e28ac9ef55a2012-07-09T17:05:01-06:00<p>You won&rsquo;t need a separate charger. Just connect the lipo battery to the Lilypad Simple. The Lilypad Simple will charge the lipo battery when powered by the FTDI basic through your USB Port.</p>EncorePTL on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardEncorePTLurn:uuid:00341f1f-2b82-0029-f6f4-9a509a9d48672012-07-07T21:56:59-06:00<p>So do we need a separate LiPo charger? or just connect the battery and USB port and it will charge the battery along with powering the Lilypad</p>Puddles on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardPuddlesurn:uuid:4dc0c759-1c4d-39da-6d0b-0f7db8d695e92012-07-07T18:34:55-06:00<p>I have a question, I&rsquo;m an arduino beginner, and I want to use this board, if I use the onboard battery plug for the LiPo battery, should I connect the ground of my components to the negative terminal on this board? Or should I find another ground? How about a Vcc? Should I just use the positive terminal, or should I use a simple digital output (actually, that might be simpler, but the question still remains)?
Edit: I found the answer to all of these questions hidden on the LilyPad homepage, connecting the power of other objects to + and the ground to - WILL work as per the example given at: http://web.media.mit.edu/~leah/LilyPad/08_sensors.html)</p>RobertC. on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardRobertC.urn:uuid:b3aa9dbf-4f17-78d1-998b-6dc7526b5b072012-02-27T15:41:42-07:00<p>It&rsquo;s just the basic &lsquo;power&rsquo; LED. Check top right on schematic, it&rsquo;s on the voltage regulator.</p>markmoran on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple Boardmarkmoranurn:uuid:c78cd92e-55a9-7c07-d334-246c4e8eddee2012-02-27T14:47:30-07:00<p>What is the orange LED next to the on switch? I don&rsquo;t see it in the schematics, but I&rsquo;m new at this so may be missing it. I&rsquo;m assuming it has to do with whether the board is running from USB power or battery power? Or whether the USB is currently charging the LiPo battery? It seems to sporadically come on, whereas the green LED on pin 13 is blinking every second as per the basic sketch.</p>Customer #117317 on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardCustomer #117317urn:uuid:d1d181d1-0024-b483-b2e5-210c60db491a2011-11-30T13:34:59-07:00<p>Will the simple board be able to power 5 RGB LEDs? Or should I be looking at a different board</p>shapr on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple Boardshaprurn:uuid:da8be269-7bef-6f51-5753-4bc0977ed2582011-10-21T15:22:59-06:00<p>Since this is part of the beginner&rsquo;s kit, I&rsquo;d like to request that a sentence be added to the end of the first paragraph:<br/>
&ldquo;The charging circuit means the LilyPad Simple will charge the included LiPo battery when plugged into a powered USB port."<br/>
I am a beginner, and ordered a separate LiPo charger, thinking it was missing from the beginner&rsquo;s kit, even after carefully reading this description when researching the kit.</p>Wascally Wabbit on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardWascally Wabbiturn:uuid:a1038487-9153-7258-0f68-f41a839446632011-09-15T01:22:12-06:00<p>Will this host an XBee board?</p>jr10 on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple Boardjr10urn:uuid:649fa9db-b208-76e9-ebc3-06b0a10973e12011-07-19T15:14:28-06:00<p>I believe the discrepancy has been rectified.</p>jonaslorander on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple Boardjonasloranderurn:uuid:4ea7af9f-8b08-667c-0d52-70e42809a83b2011-06-16T10:35:09-06:00<p>Indeed they are not. Could someone at Sparfun fix this?</p>DSPSteve on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardDSPSteveurn:uuid:7954edfb-9cb1-5cd5-b66c-85cfccb61baf2011-05-13T08:50:00-06:00<p>URGH - I double checked the LilyPad simple schematic. You are correct in that the SPI SCK is not pinned out. You will be fine with the non-PWM libraries which can use any pins. Otherwise you will have to &ldquo;skywire&rdquo; a connection to ATMEGA side of R1. My kids are using the regular LillyPad so they are all set.</p>DSPSteve on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardDSPSteveurn:uuid:51c0d8d7-a057-c7c8-1b51-adb2136c11702011-05-13T08:47:47-06:00<p>It&rsquo;s no problem. Those pins are dual use for GP I/O and an SPI interface. They are available for any use that you have. They are connected to the unpopulated ISP headder in case someone wanted to reflash the default boot code, which you don&rsquo;t want to do. There is no difference between the LilyPad and the standard Arduino in this respect. The LilyPad schematic just has them labeled for both uses. In fact the PWM ADAfruit library uses them as SPI pins so you are all set! LilyPad Simple does not have pin 12(MISO) but this is not used in the library so it&rsquo;s no problem. BTW - it looks like the non-PWM example can use any pins. I got the same ADAfruit RGB strips and will be trying to get this to work this weekend with my kids. They want to wear flashy T-shits at the European Lego Robotics Championship in two weeks (representing the US) so I hope it works! Good Luck.<br/>
(I&rsquo;ll repost on the LilyPand Simple product page and the ADAfruit forum in case you miss this)</p>Customer #200937 on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardCustomer #200937urn:uuid:96c40629-b12a-f4d9-77bd-dcd549b8d4f42011-05-10T00:14:12-06:00<p>Hey, I&rsquo;m thinking of using a LilyPad Simple board to drive some of the digital LED strips using LadyAda&rsquo;s PWM library. That library uses the ATmega&rsquo;s hardware SPI pins which, on a normal Arduino, are broken out on arduino pins 11, 12 and 13. From the schematic it appears that the appropriate pin does <em>something</em> on the LilyPad simple but is <em>not</em> available for general use? Is it at all reasonable to pull that out somehow?</p>IllogicGate on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardIllogicGateurn:uuid:03c83438-27a0-9d80-ee2c-46de7082a98d2011-04-03T09:09:21-06:00<p>I noticed that, just looking for confirmation in case someone ordered one and didn&rsquo;t get their money back 5 minutes later.</p>Bangwaiter on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardBangwaiterurn:uuid:ff28ba3c-5030-856d-1b5e-714b649cb0d42011-04-03T08:09:40-06:00<p>For example, there was stock of the IC ressurecting fumes&hellip;</p>c-scott on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple Boardc-scotturn:uuid:4f67486d-6a66-41dc-5512-758a07d36a512011-04-01T20:47:09-06:00<p>Yeah, that was my first thought as well. I think the idea is that the board is mounted &ldquo;upside down&rdquo;, that is, with the component side facing the fabric. The back of the board is completely flat.</p>c-scott on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple Boardc-scotturn:uuid:f4e9ee52-cd4d-94fc-1357-d9279ea920902011-04-01T20:45:08-06:00<p>Bill, the parts which are in stock are real. It&rsquo;s not hard to figure out.</p>IllogicGate on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardIllogicGateurn:uuid:046b78a3-c231-8873-c673-ba069fe4a1122011-04-01T16:16:50-06:00<p>Whoa, it&rsquo;s in stock and from the April 1st New Product Post. Is it real?</p>Brian W Evans on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple BoardBrian W Evansurn:uuid:76bc17ae-d93f-b3a6-b52b-122c07f593702011-04-01T10:21:35-06:00<p>Hey Robert, the schematic &amp; eagle files don&rsquo;t match the new board.</p>salsa on DEV-10274 - LilyPad Arduino Simple Boardsalsaurn:uuid:1ec4bd45-95b0-e153-2fd1-da9a421cf25b2011-03-31T13:37:12-06:00<p>For something that will likely attach to clothing, the 6-pin male header looks like trouble; a female header with male-male adapter on the cable would be less snag-prone ;)</p>