Our Ethnogenesis: Founding Myth

Every nation needs a founding myth to bind its people together and help forge a common identity. These myths can be animating sources of strength for patriots around the world. Often in ancient times they revolved around creation myths and the founding of city-states. More recently, they have generally been based upon wars of independence to form nation-states. Let’s take a look at a few founding myths before considering myths for a re-birth of our people today.

The Romans famously had the story of Romulus and Remus who were nursed by the she-wolf. The Roman people formed from a union of the Latins, Sabines and other Italic peoples and established a city-state which grew into a national confederation of Italian peoples which eventually became the mighty Roman Empire.

The Spanish and Portuguese nations have their Reconquista in which they struggled for centuries to wrestle back control of their homelands from Muslim occupiers. These nations, formed from a union of Mediterranean, Romano-Celtic and Germanic tribes, fought countless battles against the Muslim “other,” giving them lots of heroes and a sense of a national mission. Both established huge, far-flung empires shortly thereafter and brought Western Christian civilization to numerous barbaric lands across the oceans.

The Jews have their Exodus from Egyptian slavery and later their liberation from Babylonian captivity. Formed from feuding Semetic tribes, their covenant with Yahweh and belief that they are a chosen people above all others has sustained them through numerous trials over the centries. More recently, the story of the Holocaust has also served as a powerful force to unite them as a people.

The Americans have their Revolutionary War for self-government and liberty. It gave them a cast of Founding Fathers as heroes with George Washington as their great general and first president. His life is surrounded in myths such as the cutting down of the cherry tree and the crossing of the Delaware. There is also the Pilgrim’s Thanksgiving, a feast which has continued to this day in the form of a national holiday.

OUR MYTHS

Texans have a ready-made, organic national myth in the form of the Battle of the Alamo and their struggle against the Mexicans. They already have a Texas Independence Day and the impressive San Jancinto Monument around which they can rally. As well, they have the Confederate story which they share with all of Dixie. Being a Southern people they can either share in our common Dixie identity or strike out on their own. Either way they have a strong founding myth.

White Nationalists of Cascadia who favor the Northwest Imperative (check out the podcast) can draw upon the story of the settlement of the Western frontier. They also have the possibility of using the White ecotopia vision of the future in contrast to the polluted, crowded multicultural mess of the dying US empire. And they can promote the idea of Cascadia as a place of refuge for beseiged Whites, much as the Jews see Israel, as part of their founding myth.

The Amerikaner White Nationalists of the Midwest can promote their identity as a mostly Germanic people of a former industrial superpower which was de-constructed by globalists. Before being the Midwest, they were once the Northwest and fought wars against the Indians of that land – a struggle which can be incorporated as backstory into their founding myth. Independence for them could be shown as the only way to save their land and people from being looted and destroyed by hostile coastal elites. They still have much work to do in creating a founding myth.

Dixie is the easiest. Every Southern county has a Confederate statue to our fallen countrymen who died for Southern independence. We have a flag (lots of them, actually) and an anthem. Most people, according to mainstream polls, view our flags as symbols of pride in our identity. We were an independent country for four years and endured a tyrannical subjugation and occupation that bound us tightly together. Digging back beyond the Confederate experience, Hunter Wallace and I have done a lot of work promoting the concept of the Golden Circle and an identification among Southerners with our origin in the once great plantation civilization of the colonial era. We have lots of heroes such as Robert E. Lee, Davy Crockett and “Stonewall” Jackson that people admire. Tons of movies and books have been published about our identity and struggle – and not all of them are hostile towards us. Our culture is already recognized as somewhat unique from the rest of the USA. We have large heritage organizations that glorify our fallen ancestors. We have long-established nationalist organizations and new ones on the rise. And we are still mostly ethnically homogeneous as a people. In short, we do not have to create our ethnic and national identity. It began evolving long ago from British settlement, wars with the Indians on the frontier, development of our plantations and farms, experience with the Negro, conflicts with the Federal Government, invasion and war, occupation and poverty and all that we have experienced as a unique people since. We only have to promote our identity and build upon it as a basis for a new political order and civilization which might rise from the ashes of the American empire.

Historically, the black belt has always been under control until blue-bellied agitators came down here and enforced their “moral” ways on us. Times change, and I feel things will come full circle soon enough.

What we have to do, instead of committing crimes against humanity – which will soil us in the eyes of The Lord – , is get back control over our laws and form a society that holds people, and communities, to account, and which in lieu of employing government to create artificial social constructs, uses it to preserve the natural order of things – majority will dictates to the minority the basis for being here.

This is what we had, and it worked.

We simply have to get The New England Government, and it’s myriad proxies, out of our South.

Once we do these things, the Black community will either leave, and or reprise it;s original hard-working and independent ways that were prevalent under Jim Crow.

California is dominated by pozzed white leftists. The black belt states are dominated by conservative, racially conscious though not yet nationalist whites. It is not even close to the same thing. Good luck electing a Donald Trump as president with out the deep south.

I have a question for Southerners. You say your darkies aren’t the same as our darkies up North, that they are tame and more submissive to the White man’s authority. Are they of the red/pink gum variety or are they the black/blue gum types? The former are from the jungles of West Africa and are said to be not as violent as the latter, which come from the dry grasslands of East Africa. Thank you for any information you can provide to help clear up this matter.

All people, Mr. Kleinfeld, irrespective of race, are the product not only of their genetick traits, but, how those traits are interpreted by environmental influences (food, family, school, locality etc) and the nervous system (individual state of mind).

When you realize this, you realize that any group, depending on what their circumstance is, can have certain traits come out more loudly in the mix – either negative or positive.

My point is that I have seen Southern Negroes, in The South under Jim Crow, after a century of it, and in the ‘Civil Rights’ era, and, as well, I have seen Negroes up North, in this modern time.

At the end of Jim Crow, in The South, the average Negro I knew as a child, was hard-working, law abiding, and God-fearing.

Our house and my daddy’s business was filled with these kind of people – from nannies to domesticks. In Raleigh, for blocks around the governor’s mansion, Blacks ran their own thriving businesses – tailors, pharmacists, barber-shoppes, funeral homes, cobblers, pawn-brokers, grocers, jewelers, and anything else you could shake a stick at.

It’s all gone now – all except for two small barbershoppes.

And these people, you might not have liket their personalities, but, this is what they were, by and large, as a group – self-sufficient and industrious.

It was no accident.

Our system was carefully evolved by our ancestors to create a kind of Black community that we, and they, could live well with.

That system was dismantled by The New England Government, and it’s allies – Jewish agitators and media, and Liberal anti-White scalawags – White Northern nihilist professors chief among them.

What you see in the Negro community, today, is the result of New England Government meddling – from the hellholes that are Milwaukee, Detroit, Baltimore, and Newark, to the pervasive Black crime in places like Columbus, Georgia, upon which Mr. Griffin dutifully reported a few days ago.

When I was a kid, you could walk through the Negro community in Raleigh North Carolina and not worry. Hell, they did not worry, either. Moist Black fathers were home and teaching their sons the ropes. Today, Black fathers are not home – but, somewhere else, and the result of this else is a sizeable minority of Black youth males who are violent uncivilized sociopaths.

In the olde days, when our complex system failed, there was always the KKK, and our law-enforcement men, which the Black community, always suspected were KKK, as well.

They knew that, if they got out of line, consquences were likely to be swift.

We also had a lot of rules, and that taught them to be attentive to borders And boundaries, which, in turn, helped Negro males to get the better of their oft savage inclinations.

I’ve seen all this with my own eyes, and I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the disaster that is The Negro community, as a whole, in this country, falls right at the door of The New England Government – supported by Jews, Yankee Liberals, and a sizeable minority of Southron scalawags.

Nothing can change until the laws and cultural mores that have created this, are changed.

Not to steal Junius’ thunder, but niggers are niggers. The difference is that we have a tradition of not tolerating TNB. In spite of laws imposed from the outside, there’s a silent consensus about the nature of blacks and how to deal with them. Whereas in the North, the laws and society at large, are sympathetic to blacks, not towards any potential white victims.

All people, Mr. Kleinfeld, irrespective of race, are the product not only oftheir genetick traits, but, how those traits are interpreted by environmentalinfluences (food, family, school, locality etc) and the nervous system(individual state of mind).

When you realize this, you realize that any group, depending on what their circumstance is, can have certain traits come out more loudly in the mix -either negative or positive.

My point is that I have seen Southern Negroes, in The South under Jim Crow,after a century of it, and in the ‘Civil Rights’ era, and, as well, I have seen Negroes up North, in this modern time.

At the end of Jim Crow, in The South, the average Negro I knew as a child,was hard-working, law abiding, and God-fearing.

Our house and my daddy’s business was filled with these kind of people -from nannies to domesticks. In Raleigh, for blocks around the governor’smansion, Blacks ran their own thriving businesses – tailors, pharmacists, barber-shoppes, funeral homes, cobblers, pawn-brokers, grocers, jewelers, and anything else you could shake a stick at.

It’s all gone now – all except for two small barbershoppes.

And these people, you might not have liket their personalities, but, this iswhat they were, by and large, as a group – self-sufficient and industrious.

It was no accident.

Our system was carefully evolved by our ancestors to create a kind of Blackcommunity that we, and they, could live well with.

That system was dismantled by The New England Government, and it’s allies – Jewish agitators and media, and Liberal anti-White scalawags – White Northern nihilist professors chief among them.

What you see in the Negro community, today, is the result of New England Government meddling – from the hellholes that are Milwaukee, Detroit, Baltimore, and Newark, to the pervasive Black crime in places like Columbus, Georgia, upon
which Mr. Griffin dutifully reported a few days ago.

When I was a kid, you could walk through the Negro community in Raleigh North Carolina and not worry. Hell, they did not worry, either. Most Black fathers were home and teaching their sons the ropes. Today, Black fathers are not home – but, somewhere else, and the result of this else is a sizeable
minority of Black youth males who are violent uncivilized sociopaths.

In the olde days, when our complex system failed, there was always the KKK, and our law-enforcement men, which the Black community, always suspected were KKK, as well.

They knew that, if they got out of line, consequences were likely to be hard and swift.

We also had a lot of rules, and that taught them to be attentive to borders and boundaries, which, in turn, helped Negro males to get the better of their oft savage inclinations.

I’ve seen all this with my own eyes, and I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the disaster that is The Negro community, as a whole, in this country, falls right at the door of The New England Government – supported by Jews, Yankee Liberals, and a sizeable minority of Southron scalawags.

Nothing can change until the laws and cultural mores that have created this are changed.

All people, Mr. Kleinfeld, irrespective of race, are the product not only of their genetick traits, but, how those traits are interpreted by environmental influences (food, family, school, locality etc) and the nervous system(individual state of mind).

When you realize this, you realize that any group, depending on what their circumstance is, can have certain traits come out more loudly in the mix -either negative or positive.

My point is that I have seen Southern Negroes, in The South under Jim Crow, after a century of it, and in the ‘Civil Rights’ era, and, as well, I have seen Negroes up North, in this modern time.

At the end of Jim Crow, in The South, the average Negro I knew as a child, was hard-working, law abiding, and God-fearing.

Our house and my daddy’s business was filled with these kind of people – from nannies to domesticks. In Raleigh, for blocks around the governor’s mansion, Blacks ran their own thriving businesses – tailors, pharmacists, barber-shoppes, funeral homes, cobblers, pawn-brokers, grocers, jewelers, and anything else you could shake a stick at.

It’s all gone now – all except for two small barbershoppes.

And these people, you might not have liket their personalities, but, this is what they were, by and large, as a group – self-sufficient and industrious.

It was no accident.

Our system was carefully evolved by our ancestors to create a kind of Black community that we, and they, could live well with.

That system was dismantled by The New England Government, and it’s allies – Jewish agitators and media, and Liberal anti-White scalawags – White Northern nihilist professors chief among them.

What you see in the Negro community, today, is the result of New England Government meddling – from the hellholes that are Milwaukee, Detroit, Baltimore, and Newark, to the pervasive Black crime in places like Columbus, Georgia, upon
which Mr. Griffin dutifully reported a few days ago.

When I was a kid, you could walk through the Negro community in Raleigh, North Carolina and not worry. Hell, they did not worry, either. Moist Black fathers were home and teaching their sons the ropes. Today, Black fathers are not home – but, somewhere else, and the result of this else is a sizeable
minority of Black youth males who are violent uncivilized sociopaths.

In the olde days, when our complex system failed, there was always the KKK, and our law-enforcement men, which the Black community, always suspected were KKK, as well.

They knew that, if they got out of line, consequences were likely to be swift.

We also had a lot of rules, and that taught them to be attentive to borders and boundaries, which, in turn, helped Negro males to get the better of their oft savage inclinations.

I’ve seen all this with my own eyes, and I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the disaster that is The Negro community, as a whole, in this country, falls right at the door of The New England Government – supported by Jews, Yankee Liberals, and a sizeable minority of Southron scalawags.

Nothing can change until the laws and cultural mores that have created this,are changed.

All people, Mr. Kleinfeld, irrespective of race, are the product not only of their genetick traits, but, how those traits are interpreted by environmental influences (food, family, school, locality etc) and the nervous system (individual state of mind).

When you realize this, you realize that any group, depending on what their circumstance is, can have certain traits come out more loudly in the mix – either negative or positive.

My point is that I have seen Southern Negroes, in The South under Jim Crow, after a century of it, and in the ‘Civil Rights’ era, and, as well, I have seen Negroes up North, in this modern time.

At the end of Jim Crow, in The South, the average Negro I knew as a child, was hard-working, law abiding, and God-fearing.

Our house and my daddy’s business was filled with these kind of people – from nannies to domesticks. In Raleigh, for blocks around the governor’s mansion, Blacks ran their own thriving businesses – tailors, pharmacists, barber-shoppes, funeral homes, cobblers, pawn-brokers, grocers, jewelers, and anything else you could shake a stick at.

It’s all gone now – all except for two small barbershoppes.

And these people, you might not have liket their personalities, but, this is what they were, by and large, as a group – self-sufficient and industrious.

It was no accident.

Our system was carefully evolved by our ancestors to create a kind of Black community that we, and they, could live well with.

That system was dismantled by The New England Government, and it’s allies – Jewish agitators and media, and Liberal anti-White scalawags – White Northern nihilist professors chief among them.

What you see in the Negro community, today, is the result of New England Government meddling – from the hellholes that are Milwaukee, Detroit, Baltimore, and Newark, to the pervasive Black crime in places like Columbus, Georgia, upon
which Mr. Griffin dutifully reported a few days ago.

When I was a kid, you could walk through the Negro community in Raleigh North Carolina and not worry. Hell, they did not worry, either. Moist Black fathers were home and teaching their sons the ropes. Today, Black fathers are not home – but, somewhere else, and the result of this else is a sizeable
minority of Black youth males who are violent uncivilized sociopaths.

In the olde days, when our complex system failed, there was always the KKK, and our law-enforcement men, which the Black community, always suspected were KKK, as well.

They knew that, if they got out of line, consequences were likely to be swift.

We also had a lot of rules, and that taught them to be attentive to borders and boundaries, which, in turn, helped Negro males to get the better of their oft savage inclinations.

I’ve seen all this with my own eyes, and I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the disaster that is The Negro community, as a whole, in this country, falls right at the door of The New England Government – supported by Jews, Yankee Liberals, and a sizeable minority of Southron scalawags.

Nothing can change until the laws and cultural mores that have created this, are changed.

The proposed Amerikaner Free State isn’t tied to any one particular region or ethnicity; Cushman just needs to pretend it is in order to shore up SN claims to normalcy. It’s in fact pan-white American and can therefore draw upon every strain of white American cultural inheritance, unlike southern We Wuz Cavaleeyuz mythology.

If you don’t believe me, just come to Europe and work with a few local Nationalist groups. Almost all of them promote ethnic Nationalism. That’s why we want to get the millions of Poles in Britain back home rather than embracing them as our ‘brothers.’

Finally, instead of complaining about Southern Nationalism – on a Southern Nationalist site – why don’t you just create your own website which focuses on Whites in your state? If you think you can do better, prove it. Talk is cheap.

The point is, that kind of ethnonationalism is not normal anywhere in America, not even in the south. That’s why Cushman needs to give the impression that every region is doing its own version of “SN.” If SN were as easy as a sell as the endless commentaries here claim, he wouldn’t need that prop.

The reality is a bit more subtle and elusive than you state, Mr. Silver – for, while you are right to suggest that ethnonationalism is, these days, very rare anywhere in the 50 states, each culture,and subculture, does have it’s creationist lore. exactly as he wrote.

Mr. Cushman is trying to encourage folks to pick up some of their identity that The New England Government, and all it’s proxies, try so hard to get them to be blithely unaware of.

It’s just that the same people who don’t report Negro and Muslim crime, or who teach the New England mythology in the academies, have censored our history, attackt it’s symbols and monuments, and, in general, tried to skew our civilization, so that we would grow up to both not know ourselves, and, if that were not enough, despise ourselves.

There’s nothing to be despised, Junius—not in my view. The real story—what underlies the Confederate flag, whether or not Southerners want to acknowledge it—is slavery, in support of which, I would say, Southerners did not make a persuasive case. When you’ll have put that behind—put behind your equally-unpersuasive evasions, obfuscations, and sophistries on that point—you’ll be free.

John, 19th century Southern slavery most certainly is one of the things that ‘underlies’ our great flag, just as 19 century northern slavery underlies yours.

I never had made any equivocations on that matter.

So, I cannot see any sophistries in my point of view.

We had slavery, just as had every other country and race in this world, and I accept it, as well as the style of it we had.

I cannot be any more forthcoming.

The Confederate flag symbolized, symbolizes, and will symbolize, the right of The Southern White Race to determine what goes on in it’s lands, without tyrannical interference from aliens and or sumkission to ideas we regard as alien.

Slavery, and or any other economick system, yesterday, today, and or tomorrow, falls within that.

Actually, I was using “your” impersonally, Junius; but I would say your reference, just now, to “19th century northern slavery” is sophistry, not least because the New England Government, as you would say, responded—wisely or unwisely, as may be debated—with great masses of remedial legislation to the complaints about the situation of whites workers in American industry.

‘Actually, I was using “your” impersonally, Junius; but I would say your reference,’

I see : the old dilemma that confronts a Southerners when he listens to a Northerner who has no distinction between you plural and you singular!

As to our views on economick systems and the varying ways of exploitation that are intrinsick to them, we’ve have this discussion more than a few times.

On the whole, I view early and mid 19th century capitalism, as practised North and South as largely barbarous systems of exploitation, much as were the European models of the same.

The sins of both systems seem to outweigh the virtues, though, so complex is an analysis, I must, in the final analysis, leave it to The Lord.

The Southern system of exploitation was vanquisht over time, hence, we have been constrained to adopt the Northern system (The Jewish/English colonial model) of exploitation, and have been encouraged to think about it like Northerners do – that it is an improvement.

That said, I understand you feel The North was superior in this regard, and I accept that.

You will never convince me of that the Northern system is, was, or will be, superior, on moral grounds, anymore than I will convince you to the contrary. so, let’s let it lie – as conversational lines without possibilities for new revelation are exceedingly tedious.

You know slavery takes on many forms, if we scrutinize the doings of the north after the civil war, not counting the millions of sweat shop workers and the theft of the southern black work force, you must realize the New slave trade was moved to russia, central America and some Pacific islands financed out of wall street and facilitated by the US government, the same money and power behind the African slave trade.

The truth is, England created cotton plantations in India after the civil war.
As far as I’m concerned the Chinese are or were our slaves, and the Mexicans domestically, whom I compete with now for work.

I hit his name on accident the other day and disqus beta tester came up on his profile, I did a little research on the web about it and posters were saying don’t sign up for it, anyway, I don’t trust that guy at all.

That’s very gracious of you, Timber—especially since I made a point of responding to your posts when I first saw them here, because I had an impression you were new here and might appreciate not being ignored. You needn’t worry I’ll be troubling you with further replies.

As to my being a “disqus beta tester”: I have no idea what that means, as I told you the other day. As far as I know, I am not such a tester; and certainly, I have never intentionally enlisted as one. If ever I’ve been bothered even to look at my Disqus profile, I did so, the first time, only because another commenter here had mentioned his own profile, and I decided to see what, if anything, might be in mine. Up until that time, if I’m recalling this correctly, I didn’t even know I had a Disqus profile. It’s possible I’ve looked in on my profile one or two other times since that first look I took at it, but I have never bored myself by giving it any real attention. When this site, Occidental Dissent, switched to Disqus, I somehow began commenting via Disqus—maybe I clicked on my Facebook profile or something to get Disqus access. That’s everything I know of Disqus.

One thing I’ve noticed about friends of the South. They generally begin flinging insults and accusations at those who oppose their views. They have no character, no honor.

Please, look at my upvotes, I am far from ignored. If anything, I made the mistake of engaging you on this sons of the south website.
Someone copied my name when I posted as Jack, and it also had disqus beta tester as it’s profile name, and lastly I hit one of your links, and it seemed to take a picture or did some weird thing, I gave you the benefit of the doubt back then.
I remember you always telling people to look at your previous comments on your profile, even showing them at times, now I know your full of it.
Honor, character, there were many freed Africans in the south before the civil war, and America was as Christian as it would ever get, the moneyed power assaulted and destroyed an established culture, I already told you that slavery was woven into their Christian idenity, to socialize the African.
You speak from a place that has done more damage to God and nature then the south would ever have done, you lack character and honor.

I continue to have no idea what you’re talking about. My previous comments that, as I know, may be read by a clicking of my icon here, at Disqus, are not what I mean by my profile. By profile, I mean some page that would list information about me—my address or whatever; and I have never entered even a single word at my Disqus profile, which doesn’t interest me in the least. The only reason I am even at Facebook, where I entered this icon, is that Facebook lured me, so to speak, into watching a Facebook live-stream in which a friend of mine was speaking. When I went to watch it, I found I had “become a member of Facebook,” or whatever is the terminology. Probably, I entered my birth date and city, and that’s it. That was years ago, and anything else you’re talking about is a complete mystery to me.

I would be curious why disqus beta tester was my profile if you are to be believed, it’s J as of last night.
That strange link was the Philadelphia website about the guy who spray painted anti trump messages if I remember correctly.

Whatever it is that is showing up on your computer screen, smartphone, or whatever it is you’re using has nothing to do with me. When this website switched to Disqus, as I’ve told you, I started using Disqus, which, by some sequence of operations I don’t remember, began using the icon I’d entered at Facebook, years earlier. Maybe something I clicked in that sequence of operations made me a “disqus beta tester,” whatever that is. The only thing I’ve ever done via Disqus is post comments at this and other websites.

You have a consistent tendency of trying to set Whites against each other: Southerners evil for embracing slavery. Northerners good for ending it. Whites need to be united now as never before in order to oppose a common enemy which wants our universal Genocide. Anyone engaged in divide and conquer tactics, be it along regional, ethnic or religious lines, is no friend and anti-White as far as I’m concerned.

Bonaccorsi has a long history of starting arguments, using logical fallacies, contradicting himself, etc.

And when you actually demand he back up his argument, he becomes evasive (I believe the last time I chatted with him he said that I was ‘wrong as usual’ and then – as always – failed to provide any logical reason why my post was wrong).

My study of 19th century Northern Labour practices is that any human material which could be exploited, at a sub-human wage, was.

As long as these workers had the legal right to wander away (how could they if they were starving broke, and sick?) then the exploitation was acceptable.

I don’t see this as superior to Southern Slavery where, if some slaves were abused, others were treated decently, and others outright well.

I know this from reading slave accounts of their lives.

I also know that slaves were often the subject of White working class envy, this because slaves were the only Southerners guaranteed shelter, medical care, and sustenance, at a time when it was touch and go for many Whites.

“The Americans have their Revolutionary War for self-government and
liberty. It gave them a cast of Founding Fathers as heroes with George
Washington as their great general and first president. His life is
surrounded in myths such as the cutting down of the cherry tree
and the crossing of the Delaware. There is also the Pilgrim’s
Thanksgiving, a feast which has continued to this day in the form of a
national holiday.”

The Big Secret enforced by (((The Establishment))) is the Founding Fathers were White Nationalists and they founded the United States for Whites only. This should be disseminated far and wide.

What’s more potent than MEIN KAMPF and THE PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS OF ZION in stoking antisemitism? Jewish behavior itself. It awakens people to the true vile and vicious nature of so many Jews. Jewish attitude, arrogance, and contempt are what triggers people into hating Jews.

I mean… how can one NOT be an anti-Semite after dealing with so many people like Tim Wise, Sarah Silverman, Bret Stephens, and William Kristol?