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Let’s be clear first, we’re an independent publication, with unbiased political ties towards a particular situation. Today’s news, however, sees the Confederate flag, Chevrolet and Kid Rock thrown into the mix.

The Oakland Press has recently called out Kid Rock for his use of the Stars and Bars at nearly all of his shows, and calls for a change in his behaviors regarding the flag. How does Chevrolet fit into this? Well, Chevrolet is currently sponsoring Kid Rock’s upcoming summer “Cheap Date” tour.

Kid Rock also roped Chevrolet in with a controversial photo including a Confederate flag flask, mentioning the bowtie brand exclusively saying, “We should all tip our hats to Chevrolet for sponsoring this summers run and helping me to keep the $20 ticket alive for y’all!! Baseball, Apple Pie and Chevrolet!! God Bless America!”

Now, skeptics are shaming Kid Rock for associating Chevrolet with the flag, as writer of the column calls for General Motors to “step in, take immediate action, and demand Kid Rock not ever associate the Confederate flag with the Chevrolet logo, lest he loses financial sponsorship of his current Cheap Date concert tour.”

Ultimately, that’s for no one to decide except GM itself, but these are choppy times indeed.

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Frankly, I’m getting tired of this political correctness nonsense. It’s making our country the laughing stock of the world, and it’s repulsive. People are getting their feelings hurt and instead of doing something productive with their lives, they cry like little babies until those who aren’t so PC cave to their demands.

this is what happens when the people put a liberal minority in the highest office in the USA. everything they hate is now fair game because the have to power of the office behind them and no one will fight back because they will be called racist.

“this is what happens when the people put a liberal minority in the highest office”

Elections. Are a vote of THE PEOPLE. That is a majority of voters put Democrats in the highest office. A minority of voters didn’t put Obama into office twice. It wasn’t a fluke.

STRIKE ONE. Batter up!

“everything they hate is now fair game because the have to power of the office behind them”

Right. That’s the POINT of an election. If you win it, you get to try to do what you like against those you ‘hate’. When W became President, he and Cheney staged a completely fake war. Killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who had nothing to do with 9/11. Why? To bomb the crap out of people they hated from W’s Dads days. President Cheney revenge.

STRIKE TWO. Batter up!

“and no one will fight back because they will be called racist”

What a cowardly apologist position this is. If you believe the Confederate Flag doesn’t offend black Americans, state your case. But understand if you say “there’s nothing wrong with that flag” you’ll likely be labeled as racially insensitive.

The Civil War was to keep blacks as slaves in the South. There’s no way around that. And so excusing yourself from having a racist position (or positions) because your party lost the White House the last two times to a Democrat is seriously sad whiney Gerber baby reasoning.

I agree with a portion of your comments…but either you misstated or you don’t know your “War Between the States” history to the full extent as to “WHY” the North and the South went to war.
It is true there was an issue with “SLAVERY” and those that know their history will surely admit it…but to say THAT is the reason without supplying the other 90% of WHY they went to war is soooo wrong.
That would be like saying Kid Rock uses the Stars and Bars because he supports slavery. Lets get real here..from what I see exhibited on the news lately is “hate” on both sides of the fence and it’s all due to a lack of education on history…or hate bred into people as a child. None of us that came into this world had any say in what the color of our skin was to be…but we all have a say as to how we look at others as we mature…no matter how our parents may have perceived it. Read the bible and you will find that whites were slaves as well…and years before our skin color and language were changed when the tower of Babel was under construction. God changed our language and our skin color to hinder us from uniting as one nation for the purpose of pursuing evil. Hate is EVIL that some are pursuing today. The flag is a piece of colored cloth…it can’t hate…it can’t spread dissension among people. It’s primary reason for existing was to mark the position of the regiment on the battlefield. Hatred of anything or anyone is mental and no one can change that hatred but the person hating. My writing this comment will not change anyone’s mind, nor will anyone else’s comment…but we say what we feel hoping it will instill a bit of piece and understanding. Maybe it will cause someone to seek education on this subject of hate…be it hate of a flag…of a skin color or event. This sick individual was seen with a Confederate battle flag so now we want to remove it from history to make some feel better…what would we do had he been seen with the American flag? Should we remove it to make some feel better? Again…what did this flag do?
Should we “HATE” the gun or guns he used? What did the guns do? Just what is the answer? When you have a water leak you go to the source of the leak and repair it…you don’t get rid of the water. The sick individual is the problem so get rid of him…be it death or incarceration for he is a menace to society…a liability…not an asset. Nuff said…maybe too much.

“It is true there was an issue with “SLAVERY” and those that know their history will surely admit it…but to say THAT is the reason without supplying the other 90% of WHY they went to war is soooo wrong.”

If you read that Bible closely it says things about not bearing false witness.

The stupidity that some have the courage to write is beyond me. How can something so insensitive and stupid be accepted in this time. Yeah in every pocket of society there are thorns that give the rest a bad rap but to use the logic that it was “once accepted” is dumb. Slaves were “once” accepted so by that theory let them have them again. Sometimes society can be so good and sometimes it can just be plain awful

Whether some folks like it or not, the Confederate Flag is undeniably part of our American heritage and bloody battles were fought and won to guarantee Everyone’s freedom. “Freedom” in the American sense means we respect a citizens right to express his own, perhaps differing beliefs without fear of persecution. The Confederate Flag is deeply engrained in Southern culture and to dismiss it as merely a “symbol of bigotry” is to be bigoted and lacking perspective yourself. The issue isn’t all black and white – no pun intended.

Today, Kid Rock’s support of Chevrolet could be called into question by many as left-wing hatred toward American corporations and institutions rages like wildfire across the land. To a proliferate mob of disgruntled Americans, the Stars and Stripes itself symbolizes an entire collection of backwards ideas that must surely CHANGE. If nothing else, history has taught us that being among the majority doesn’t always mean you’re right.

Once again it’s time to play DO YOU EVEN HEAR YOURSELF speaking? Batter up!

“Whether some folks like it or not, the Confederate Flag is undeniably part of our American heritage.”

Straw man argument. ‘A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent’s argument, while actually refuting an argument which was not advanced by that opponent.’

No one against confederate flags denies they are a part of our history. It is their place in history that actually causes their controversial nature.

STRIKE ONE. Batter up!

“bloody battles were fought and won to guarantee Everyone’s freedom”

The North and the South were not fighting together to guarantee everyone’s freedom. If they were they’d have been fighting on the same side. The North was fighting to makes slave free where the South wasn’t.

STRIKE TWO. Batter up!

“The Confederate Flag is deeply engrained in Southern culture and to dismiss it as merely a “symbol of bigotry” is to be bigoted.”

Straw Man returns with a vengeance. Opponents of the flag do not dismiss it merely as a symbol of bigotry. We understand it represents all sorts of Southern ‘ideals’ besides slavery. The problem is that the slavery aspect of the flag — the idea that blacks shouldn’t be free — has never left that flag. Why? The South lost and this flag had to be abandoned. Except it hasn’t been.

STRIKE THREE AND YOU’RE OUT!

I’m certain that back in Nazi Germany the Nazi flags were a sign of hope to so many people. If they weren’t there wouldn’t have been the Nazi movement after all. So if a German from that period was to say, “Look… you don’t understand what that flag represented to us. It wasn’t JUST a call for ethnic cleansing. It was a call for a rise in stature for Germany, a recovery of our economy, it was hope… it was dreams…” these are valid statements. For history. Not for waving the Nazi flag now.

Slavery was an African genocide. A completely immoral act. Something to be terribly embarrassed about. Waving a Confed Flag about the good ol’ days is rubbing salt in wounds. This isn’t a history parade —

LOL…you struck out this time. You are the poster child for an old comment..”Tis better to be thought a fool, then to speak and remove all doubt!”
Everyone can clearly see you sir are uneducated when it comes to “War Between the States” history.
The flag was never abandoned clown…but then maybe you don’t know what abandoned means…;o)
The flag didn’t symbolize slavery then at all…it was and is a symbol of pride carried into battle…hence a “Battle Flag”. I don’t expect a closed mind..what little mind you have…to do any research on “Battle Flags” and I am not pointing to only the Confederate flag…speaking on battle flags hundreds of years before it was thought of. I could be wrong…but it sounds as if you are a “Damned Yankee” by all the strike outs you have made with your comments about the historical aspect of the “FLAG”
Let us hear you tell us why TEXAS came to join the Confederate States…love to hear more of your knowledge on Confederate History…;o)

The Flag like the war means a lot of thing to a lot of people. For some it was slavery the foundation of the war. But for others it was states rights and how the north treated many of the southern states. For some they just had enough when they were minding their own business and had their farms burned and family members killed that were not fighting.

Then after the war and even yet today people who are from the south are proud of where they are from. They are not always proud of what happened in the past but they are tired of being called bigots when most are not and dumb because they have an accent. There is a lot of pride to this part of the country and they feel they should be the ones to determine what they do.

Yet while the pious rest of the country forget that they too have pockets of bigots that are every bit as bad as anything the south had. Just look at Portland Or. That was one of the larger areas to have the KKK to the point that Kaiser had to build a town to let black live in that worked in his ship years. They were no allowed into Portland. This was 1945? In 47 the town was washed away and 16 people killed before they were permitted into Portland.

What is sad here is the far left has taken the media off the poor souls that died and they are for the most already forgotten in this foolish argument.

The bottom line is the flag will never go away. You can do all you want but it will remain. It should remain the and the history should be taught truthfully and not hide the good or the bad that came from that war. There are things for all of us to learn and never repeat again. More people died in that war than all the other American wars combined. Most of them could have cared little about the slavery issue and fought for many reasons that too should never be repeated.

“But for others it was states rights and how the north treated many of the southern states. For some they just had enough when they were minding their own business and had their farms burned and family members killed that were not fighting.”

No argument that carpetbagger types were in play during and after the war. And that’s something to really resent. Absolutely.

The problem is the South is so caught up in this resentment/pride they’re still being played by carpetbaggers. George W and Mitt Romney the absolute stankiest carpetbaggers ever — and did the South every support these two.

Yes state right and about 10 other reasons many could give that all have a part in this. That is why the flag is not just about slavery only.

It also is a regional pride and a sign of defiance just as the Gadsden Flag that was used in the war of 1812 and by the tea party today.

As for your right wing attacks you also had better get some more history correct. Many of the states did not use the flags after the war but in the 40’s-60’s under Democratic left wing leadership they brought them back and placed them on capital grounds and on the states flags.

The Democrats here have been very two faced on this as they are part of the reason they are in play in the argument on the capital grounds in many states. Now they are making an issue about them to be gone?

The basic fact is the war and flag had many meanings and you are not going to erase any of them. Best to learn from them and never repeat the tragedy.

I assume Chaney also was responsible for leading Lincoln into this too?

No wonder this country is going to hell. All the bankrupt cities and states in crisis had a person with a D behind the name. The only good Democrats are in Indiana and WV.

These racist apologists want to lecture everyone that everything isn’t black and white… or us and them. This creates their fuzzy fog. A fuzzy fog that allows such ludicrous statements as ‘slavery had only %10 to do with the Civil War’.

But at the end of the day it’s really simple. Most black Americans resent the Confederate Flag. Most rednecks and racial apologists don’t.

All that is at stake now is the basic freedom to defend one’s own views without suffering forceful, repeated bludgeoning by an infectious brigade of super-leftists for not caving in to their character attacks and insistence upon distilling complicated issues into “mine is the only truth and if you don’t see it as I do, you’re racist”. Remaining quite consistent with your own polemic:

I believe in freedom. You don’t even understand what it means.

A person of your ilk should be aware the politically correct term for black people in this country is “African American”. Kindly stop annoying and offending your fellow Americans on both sides of the debate.

“A person of your ilk should be aware the politically correct term for black people.”

I see. So instead of admitting I’m not a super-leftist that doesn’t use super leftist polemic, you ‘bludgeon’ me with a ‘chararcter attack’ which you admit doesn’t apply. That is: your’s is on the only truth and if I don’t see it, I’m a super-leftist.

The Confederate flag – some say it’s an homage to the poor guys who got mowed down in defense of the states that seceded:
though you could make a case for them having to fight on behalf of the rich landowners and slave owners. Kid Rock is from Michigan and is the son of Bill Ritchie (Bill Ritchie, Kid Rock’s father, operated a Lincoln-Mercury car dealership up until he sold it in 1999. They lived in Romeo, MI). Some say it’s a symbol of racism best forgotten.

Interesting, too, that while the Nazis reverted back to their original flag, Japan still flies the rising sun.

Speaking of not knowing your history. It is a Myth that the South Seceded Over Staes Rights. In fact, they opposed other states rights to oppose slavery. They were very clear that this was about keeping slaves.

On Dec. 24, 1860, delegates at South Carolina’s secession convention adopted a “Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union.” It noted “an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery” and protested that Northern states had failed to “fulfill their constitutional obligations” by interfering with the return of fugitive slaves to bondage. Slavery, not states’ rights, birthed the Civil War.

South Carolina was further upset that New York no longer allowed “slavery transit.” In the past, if Charleston gentry wanted to spend August in the Hamptons, they could bring their cook along. No longer — and South Carolina’s delegates were outraged. In addition, they objected that New England states let black men vote and tolerated abolitionist societies.

Other seceding states echoed South Carolina. “Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery — the greatest material interest of the world,” proclaimed Mississippi in its own secession declaration, passed Jan. 9, 1861. “Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of the commerce of the earth. . . . A blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization.”

Other stories denying that the South seceded mainly because of slavery are just that. Stories. Stories created to avoid facing the truth about the main Southern economic interests that were threatened in 1860 and to create a falsely romanticized view of the “Old South”. These were successful efforts to distort history to create a fantasy that somehow the confederacy was noble and good, which clearly it was not. Of course, someone would only know this only if they actually research history., instead of relying on propaganda heavily supported by The Daughters of the Confederacy in the early 1900’s.

They say war history is written by the winners of the war. If the South had won I really believe history would record a totally different side of it. One theory I heard stated that the south wanted to start selling more of it’s cotton to Europe, which would have driven up the prices that he north was paying. So the rich mill owners in the North started telling everyone that we should go to war over slavery when the real reason was that they wanted to garintee that their cotton kept coming at a cheap price. So the rich plantation owners wanted to sell their cotton wherever they wanted so they told everyone that the north wants to take away your right o have a dark-colored cook. Take it or leave it. It’s in the past and i’m glad the slaves are free. The issue now is that a bunch of crybabies got offended and are trying to push their agenda on the rest of us in the name of civil rights. i have a civil right to fly any flag i feel like and they may as well get used to it. and by the way i am from the North and have lived here all of my 21 years.

Only one problem: African Americans, and others, have been calling for the removal of this flag from public buildings for years. In many folks eyes, this incident has only served to intensify the need for its removal. It’s not been deemed the initiator of the movement.