all that is left is for the fiat fractionalised reserve banking system to collapse and than we get a true global governance of state and the long arduous process of eugentic natural selection of self sovereign & governed individuals.

>no such thing as a superpower nation state, just super powerful individualistic based intelligence

>>575820829Russia spends more on military than it can afford, while ruining their relationship with the rest of the world which damages them economically. They use the threat of cutting off the gas-supply from dependent nations with pushes them closer to NATO.

Russia can invade ukraine, sure. They would win. But in the process of doing so they would cripple themselves. There is no real possibility of gain here.

They are setting themselves up for a huge fail when their economy collapses.

>>575821758Where do you get your facts, from the back of a cereal box? If anything, US and Russia are about equal with what they can get away with politically. As far as military goes, the US budget is higher and the technology is decades ahead of Russia.

>>575822812>even China is getting tired of North Korea's shit.Times sure have changed.Anyway, it is impossible to invade both Russia and the United States, hell even China. Any war of the sort would go nuclear, and when one nuke goes up, everyone who has nukes sends them anywhere and everywhere.

>>575826056>drones all over the place killing about 10 innocent people to every terrorist... if thatYou are talking out your assBut if Israel kills civilians it's ok because they are gods chosen people right? Fucking Republicunts

>>575825809>If anything, US and Russia are about equal with what they can get away with politically.really faggot?>us invades countries daily and no one says shit about it>russia invades one backwater country and the whole world imposes sanctions on the and destabilize their economy

No. While Nazi Germany had thousands of tanks to roll over the territory in question AND a strong alpha ideology, the US can only afford bombing countries with outdated air defense. The world is different, indeed.

>>575821140lol norussia can only threat the world with one thing: nuclear weaponshowever everyone assumes they won't use it, so nobody fears themand if they actually use it, then there will be no russia in 30 minutes, so they know they can't do itthat way or another, russia means nothing

>>575832284not necesarly. When one nuke is fired, other will follow, and most likely the world as we know it will end. That's why everyone should have one. Ukraine gave up their nukes exactly 20years ago because Russia, US and France I believe, promised to assure their safety. Look how it turned out..

>>575826686Honestly no one is jealous of America. America is like that one friend that everyone hates and talks about behind their backs but no one would ever admit it out loud because they get shit out of being around them. Look at all these American dumbasses " Duurr, we a superpour because we got nuwear bambs"They pretty much just throw temper tantrums until they get what they want

>>575834750Rogue state is the one that poses a threat to others - so the one that tries to take over other countries or invades "for reasons". Yep, it makes both USA and Russia rogues. Maybe they would stop if the little guy they attack had a nuke.

>>575833252Putin is an alright dude, America is pretty much the only country that compares him to terrorist organizations. I've never even met an American that knows why they hate Putin, they just don't like Russia because they think its a poor, underdeveloped country, fed by war where the government oppresses people who wait in a line for bread for 4 hours a day. Oh yeah, and they all think its a cauldron of propaganda to justify their hate towards America, "the greatest country on earth that everyone loves".

The only other countries that would think this way are the Ukraine and Afghanistan. They have the right to, definitely, but at least the Russians are capable of acknowledging that the things they do have the ability to be wrong and that their actions aren't all holy crusades in the name of emancipation and "freedom" -unlike Americans.

>>575834903There is actually plenty of legitimate reasons to hate America. For one, like I said before, they just throw big temper tantrums and threaten to blow smaller countries up when they don't get what they want. Your economy is based on stealing

>>575836045maybe he would. Imagine Saddam actualy had a nuke. Wouldn't he lauch it when US were already on his land, army defeated, more US coming?

Anyway I gotta go now, have to work in the morning. Just to make it clear - i'm not pro russia, nor pro usa, I would just like everyone to stfu, maybe work together (yeah, I know, utopia) and colonize fucking space. See ya.

>>575835840Americans are so sad..Why do you think people working in the entertainment industry are filthy stinking rich in America ?Because they distract people from thinking about important matters that the government are dealing with. It is the most vital profession in your governments eyes because it's keeping you all stupid. You're all blissfully unaware of what a shit hole your government and country is

Putin's Russia is no better than the USA. They are both run by corrupt rich men, same with China as well. I just hope future generations of politicians are not as reckless as these control-freaks. But with that said, at least these countries are better than the dictatorships in the middle east.

Allow me to educate all of you faggotsMilitary: It's hard to say who's stronger conventionally considering both countries have similar tech (Su-27=F-16, Su-25=A-10, T-90= M1A2 Abrams, etc) but I would have to give America the upper hand but not by a lot. If nuclear war happened everybody would be dead in hours, considering both countries are far ahead the rest of the world in nuclear technology and stockpile so that's not really a discussion. Neither country could invade the other cause 1. Russia is enormous, cold as shit, and the people get extremely patriotic in times of war. They've got damn good defensive systems (some even better than America's) that could kick invaders' asses. 2. America spends a shit ton on military to the point where they're uninvadable. Not really much to say since they were never invaded before but let's just assume cause their military.Economy: Yes, US has a much bigger GDP than Russia and yes, Russia has smaller debt and more resources coming being produced and shit. So please, shut the fuck up about their economies. They're both going to shit and both will fix themselves. Seriously, historyOh, and China. The Chinks aren't exactly with these two faggots, but they're getting there. Militarily, economically, etc.

>>575838754by which you mean, given no nuclear weapons used, USA soil would be still left unscathed, only the war would cost a lot of money and would have bad geopolitical effect on USA's position everywhere

>>575836763It was an opinion based on what I know about America, it's government, and it's relations with other countries. Americans don't really realize this but their government does pull a lot of shit to get their own way, which hasn't really made them popular with other countriesAlso, like this guy >>575837397 said, most of this thread is peoples opinions. If all of this was pure facts, we wouldn't be able to argue over whether it's true or not, now would we.

Everyone acts like its 100% a loose loose situation.The United States has the most advanced and successful CICBM. A missile born nuke is no threat to the CONUS.The US is also a beast with resources (oil). The majority of our oil is protected within wildlife reservations or the method to aquire it is risky to the enviroment. A few years ago the US became the world leader in natural gas production and its about to become the leader in crude oil aswell.

I'm trying to be as unbiased as possible, in Russia they say the American air force is mostly transports and the navy is just fancy looking. In here ( Murica) they say Russian navycan't float and the air force is small. Also, what do you guys think about ground forces?

>>575839707It doesn't matter what they say. All you have to do is look at the numbers and the resources going into each. Russia would be slaughtered.>ground forcesWithout air backup, conventional ground forces would inevitably lose. Guerrilla forces could last for who knows how long.

>>575840062Was talking about the russians lol. Saying just cause they appear to have aircraft, etc. similar in tech levels to the U.S. doesn't mean shit when you don't have a lot of them or advanced weaponry for them to use.

>>575839760I didn't say I was pro Russian either. I just happened to not be talking about Russia. Obviously most countries do this, but America is the most notorious because of their 'god bless america and fuck everyone else' attitude.

>>575841793by that logic, USA consists of some 50 states give or take, not an american

economy is not measured by gdp, this number is only somewhat meaningful

>>575841997another anon said that tatars drove out the greeks. for all i know, the greeks did live there a long time ago, but i don't know if the tatars drove them away, and even if so, it must have been before XVI century at least. so im asking when that happened if that happened

>>575840930>750,000 members of the US armed forces. 4,000 dead. What a big fuckig hit

50,000 gravely injured. I was visiting Hot Springs AK for a few days during the iraq war and noticed lots of young guys in wheelchairs tooling around. I was puzzled but later found out the city has a rehabilitation center for injured soldiers.

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