pieces o'nine wrote:I think the board members have made themselves abundantly clear on the matter of publishing the Loose Canon.

it's clear that the active members from your list are not in favor of your project,

you must contact Bobby and acquire his written permission to do so.

There are 25 contributors. I know what 3 of them think but I'm more interested in hearing what the other 22 contributors think before I throw up my hands and quit. On the Bobby issue: I only seen one work in the Loose Canon attributed to Bobby Henderson. I'm not touching the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. That book is currently being published by Villard Books. Besides, I'm not so sure Bobby Henderson is a real person. If he is, he's dead or uninterested in what is going on here.

pieces o'nine wrote:I think the board members have made themselves abundantly clear on the matter of publishing the Loose Canon.

it's clear that the active members from your list are not in favor of your project,

you must contact Bobby and acquire his written permission to do so.

There are 25 contributors. I know what 3 of them think but I'm more interested in hearing what the other 22 contributors think before I throw up my hands and quit. On the Bobby issue: I only seen one work in the Loose Canon attributed to Bobby Henderson. I'm not touching the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. That book is currently being published by Villard Books. Besides, I'm not so sure Bobby Henderson is a real person. If he is, he's dead or uninterested in what is going on here.

A: It’s ok to use FSM materials for your own use and to spread the word – I’m happy to see it. There have been a number of sports team and club shirts — I can provide high quality images/vector designs for screen printing, just let me know.

That said, it’s not ok to *SELL* FSM products.

A couple reasons for this. I’m wary of the FSM being used in designs with slogans that are purposely antagonistic or otherwise harmful to the Cause. I’m thinking of a case years ago where someone was selling overtly caustic anti-religion shirts with various FSM designs and it became a problem.

I’m all for pointed criticism and humor at the expense of too-powerful religious institutions, but that is a very different thing than declaring someone is stupid for being religious. I’m strongly against simple intentional offense just for the sake of offending – I believe it makes the larger problem worse, causes everyone to entrench in their views, and gives ammunition to opponents. I have no say in the broader non-religious movements, but I don’t want FSM seen as cynical and negative. This is very important to me.

Second, unlike mainstream religions, there is no soliciting for donations or tithing here. This server was expensive to build and is expensive to run, and it’s funded by sales of shirts/books/emblems. Because of that, I am aware of the hundreds of FSM products offered that don’t support this site, and the few who I feel hurt the cause. I believe most people have good intentions, but also I don’t want to see this organization disappear.

If there’s something specific you want offered on the FSM store, let me know and I’ll see what I can do.

If ever possible, I would love to do away with all merchandising – I think it hurts the purity of the Cause. It would be nice if there was a rich benefactor keeping things afloat. (Accepting applications).

By reading this post, you agree that you are solely responsible for your reaction to it. The poster takes no responsibility for any offense taken where none was meant. Except in cases of accidental microaggressions, in which case please explain it, so that we may better understand.

Will the copyright page(s) be included in the 2nd Edition of the Loose Canon? Here is a sample of what it might look like:

This book is a collection of works of fiction. Names, characters, places and incidents are products of the authors' imaginations or are used fictitiously. Any resemblance to actual events or locales or persons living or dead is entirely coincidental.

Now that I've finally gone through and read the posts on this thread, I see that the 2nd edition is back in the works! Well, I guess this means I'll have to double-time it on all of the books I need to retranslate. I foresee some loooong days a-comin'.

Warlord of Elephants wrote:I have a better idea. You will NOT PM anybody who asks you not to. The first time you "forget" will be the LAST time. SiN WoE.

Why are you so energized about finding reason to eliminate me? Just use the excuse that my hair is too short, too long or maybe it's too average in length. It's obvious that you enjoy eliminating discussion. But is that truly appropriate for a "Discussion Forum"? I personally don't think it is. I think it's better to keep me around to entertain others.

You may not realize it, but the way you are acting here has put a lot of people on edge. Whether you meant to or not, you've given offense to many of us here. I tell you this in the hopes that you can take a step back and see how your actions and words could be construed as pushy, overly critical, and demanding. You could have said much the same thing s in very different and infinitely more tactful ways. You could have asked questions instead of demanding answers. You could have made friends instead of making enemies.

I am giving you the benefit of the doubt, and I am assuming that you may not be a native English speaker, and/or you may come from a different cultural background where your behavior would not be considered impolite, and/or you are somewhat socially dysfunctional.

The reason you are on the receiving end of so many unfriendly remarks is because your words and actions have suggested to us that the only things that matter to you are your own ideas and opinions. Whether or not that is true, it is how you appear to us, as a selfish and tactless person who thinks they know better than anyone else about how to do anything.

Normally, I dislike speaking for other people, especially since I'm not the best at social interactions myself. However, in this instance I don't think you will find many who disagree with my analysis.

If you are at all serious about being a part of this forum, I suggest you stop trying to run the forum and start trying to become a part of it.

By reading this post, you agree that you are solely responsible for your reaction to it. The poster takes no responsibility for any offense taken where none was meant. Except in cases of accidental microaggressions, in which case please explain it, so that we may better understand.

Rev. Rowan Redbeard wrote:Normally, I dislike speaking for other people, especially since I'm not the best at social interactions myself. However, in this instance I don't think you will find many who disagree with my analysis.

I think you will find that most of us on this forum have a few . . . errrm . . . social issues. Of course, that doesn't make me anyone less on here.

my friends

juicegiver may rub some of us the wrong way, but he has not done anything egregious that would warrant his being banned from the forum - at least not that I've seen - but then again I can be a bit of a mushhead.

Questioning authority is something that I think we all have in common. Please give him(?) a chance as we would like to have others give us a chance.

Get your bake on.

TwistedSister wrote:You can't go wrong with a side of Bacon on your side.........

Warlord of Elephants wrote:Juicegiver has been warned and spoken to by pm, more than once. The ball is in his court now. His actions will decide if he stays around or not. SiN. WoE.

Yes Juicegiver has rubbed some people up the wrong way, but I hope we can find a way past this as Juicegiver's submissions to the 2nd edition do seem worth of consideration. I think it was be a shame if any such discord was to lead to Juicegiver's removal from this forum.

My position on publication, Yes it would be wonderful to have it in easy to purchase hard-copy, but NO profit should be made from it. If it proves to be not possible to do it that way then it will remain as an online publication that if people want a hard copy they will have to print it themselves.

The Dark NoodleAKA - The Rev. Dr. Jo Freddie

The Book of Piraticus 12:1-3I gave you brains, the ability to reason, and free will for a reason.Please use them.If I say something dumb, question it.http://www.loose-canon.info/ - A really Important Collection of Words.