The Tamil city of Madurai is named after the Uttar Pradeshi city of Mathura. However, since the Tamil language has no 'tha' sound, Tamilians were obliged to changed Mathura to Madura which became Madurai.

Similarly, the Tamil city of Tenkasi is named after the city of Kashi (Benaras or Varanasi) in UP. Tenkasi means Southern Kasi.

the 'tha' sound in thamizh or Thirukural (the soft 't') is different from the 'tha' sound in Mathura. The 'tha' sound in Mathura is the same as the 'tha' sound in Katha. this sound is absent in the Tamil language.

the 'tha' sound in thamizh or Thirukural (the soft 't') is different from the 'tha' sound in Mathura. The 'tha' sound in Mathura is the same as the 'tha' sound in Katha. this sound is absent in the Tamil language.

the 'tha' sound in thamizh or Thirukural (the soft 't') is different from the 'tha' sound in Mathura. The 'tha' sound in Mathura is the same as the 'tha' sound in Katha. this sound is absent in the Tamil language.

just compare the 'thoda thoda' in the hindi song with the 'thoda thoda' in the tamil song and you will know what i mean when i say that tamil does not have the 'tha' sound of hindi (and sanskrit). instead of 'tha', a tamilian unfamiliar with sanskrit and hindi will pronounce 'tha' as 'ta' (with the soft 't') since the tamil language does not have the 'tha' sound of hindi and sanskrit.

garam_kuta wrote:hahaha..stop beeswaxing -looks like you ears need a powerwash at 0:52

i am still not hearing the 'tha' sound of hindi and sanskrit and i did start at 0:52 in the first video. the reason is very simple: tamil does not possess this sound in its repertoire. i am amazed that with respect to the 'tha' sound i know more about the tamil language than the tamilians on this forum.

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for the purpose of comparison, its probably best to stick to these two songs:

the tamil song Thoda Thoda Malardhadhenna:

now the same Thoda Thoda song, but this time in Hindi:

just compare the 'thoda thoda' in the hindi song with the 'thoda thoda' in the tamil song and you will know what i am trying to explain. the 'thoda thoda' in the tamil song is being pronounced 'toda toda' (with a soft 't').

it's the stretch rather than the stress. use a timeranyways, if you can't get the guttural 'th' in O'tha or kaththi or in thathi thathi, it's just that you are the incorrigible my rabbit has 3 legs type.

garam_kuta wrote:it's the stretch rather than the stress. use a timeranyways, if you can't get the guttural 'th' in O'tha or kaththi or in thathi thathi, it's just that you are the incorrigible my rabbit has 3 legs type.

Been a long time since I heard O'tha It was a frequently heard word during my hostel stay. I will probably hear it a lot during a college mates' get together I am attending this December because old habits die hard.

garam_kuta wrote:it's the stretch rather than the stress. use a timeranyways, if you can't get the guttural 'th' in O'tha or kaththi or in thathi thathi, it's just that you are the incorrigible my rabbit has 3 legs type.

Been a long time since I heard O'tha It was a frequently heard word during my hostel stay. I will probably hear it a lot during a college mates' get together I am attending this December because old habits die hard.