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Don’t lift the ban! If so, we will pull our son out on the spot!… And so will MANY, MANY friends and parents! Shame on BSA for caving on this… Many boys will miss out because a few gays try to push their agenda. Selfish b@stards!

This ban lifting is stupid… What if a 40 year old male parent wants to camping with his daughter’s girl scout troop… same tent and everything? NEVER gonna happen… Nor should it. Same thing here. Gay IS a sexual orientation… Same (however uncomfortable) reason that they would never allow a male to go camping with a bunch of girls…. Why can’t Libs shut the hell up?! Who do they care about most?

I PROMISE that we will quit the Scouts! Our Son is in it and we will remove him immediately if they lift this ban.

Peteoh ...it will be your sons loss and what do you think you are protecting him from....a normal boy who may be gay?

April 20, 2013 at 9:04pm

Azzman responded:

Pet- There are other groups you can join, please check them out and talk to the other parents in your troop. The Youth Patriots and the Royal Rangers stay true to principal. They could use your financial help too as these groups grow over the summer and into the fall.

April 11, 2013 at 1:05pm

This is NOT a civil rights issue… If so, it would be so on behalf of the Florist. I can’t believe that this is something that the Washington State should be involved in… It should be renamed to: “Washington (would be turning over in his grave) State”

This is an immoral event to many… If the Florist was asked to do an arrangement for a many marrying a goat, would the State get involved? NO! Because there is NO such thing! The same with Gay Marriage… There is NO such thing. Plus, despite the best efforts of these lefties, this is STILL America! You can’t make a free enterprise business sell to anyone he doesn’t want to. The Government has gotten into the health care business… Maybe they should expand into the Flower Shop business and gays can buy flowers from them. Can anybody recall seeing signs in businesses saying “we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone”?

As if this article wasn’t sad enough… The additional sad thing is that you’re right. I wish you weren’t… We’ve seen the cops become goons, good cops look the other way, laws become chains, interpretation open to motive, motive open to mood… All of this is about control. These laws are choking us. According to a recent best seller, the average American unknowingly commits two Federal offenses DAILY! Way too many stupid laws. I challenge Congress to TAKE A YEAR OFF from making NEW laws and spend the time striking down bad laws.

Don’t lift the ban! If so, we will pull our son out on the spot!… And so will MANY, MANY friends and parents! Shame on BSA for caving on this… Many boys will miss out because a few h@mos try to push their agenda. Selfish b@stards!

This ban listing is stupid… What if a 40 year old male parent wants to camping with his daughter’s girl scout troop… same tent and everything? NEVER gonna happen… Nor should it. Same thing here. Gay IS a sexual orientation… Same (however uncomfortable) reason that they would never allow a male to go camping with a bunch of girls…. Why can’t Libs shut the hell up?! Who do they care about most?

TO Chipolte…. You just lost my family’s business and our companies! Idiots!

Shame on the “Conservatives” who shut down the discussion on Hussein’s birth. This is a perfect example of the Media infiltrating the thoughts, conferences and even the actions of anything GOP through FEAR alone! This is a legitimate issue that remains unanswered. We are so afraid of what we’ll be called that we avoid the issue. Shame on the GOP for caving on this issue. Even IF Barry was born in Hawaii (for which there is ZERO concrete evidence), he does NOT meet the standard for NATURAL BORN. Before you reply with “Barry is a US Citizen”, please look up the definition of Natural Born and Article 2, Section 1 of our often ignored Constitution. Taiiz should be allowed to speak, let alone ask a question without getting heckled by our own. Shameful!

It's not just about where Obama was or wasn't born. That's where Beck wants it all to end, though, and what he's reduced it to, but there's much, much more. It's the fact that the birth certificate online is a "forgery," as well as the selective service card. Experts have proven it. And, it's the fact that Obama has been using someone else's social security number. That, too, has been proven. I'm sick and tired of Glenn, Pat and Stu hushing everyone up over this discussion. They claim Obama is using it to accuse us of racism. To that I say that Obama plays the race card every single day! What else is new?

March 17, 2013 at 12:26pm

unclegeek responded:

You sure it was conservatives there....or planned noise makers there for that one purpose?

In fact, a few same-sex marriages were performed by the deranged Roman Emperor Nero (who was gay and the 1st Roman Emperor to “marry” a man) and would still have NO legal standing in Rome… It was basically ceremonial with no legal impact. Otherwise, most or all references in ancient times state “same-sex unions”, “marriage-like” and “relationships”. No reference to Greeks EVER referring to same-sex unions as “marriages”. EVER. As for Spain, there was ONE performed by some priest in 1061. Wanna guess his fate or what the Church did about it? In China, they weren’t marriages. They were ceremonies where a guy would “bound” himself to another. Not a marriage. And to your point (which was well made), there may have been some same-sex “marriage” by a rogue authority. I believe in states rights and am comforted that marriage has been held traditional in Ohio by law. Per the 2010 census, gays are 1.8% of the US population. I would never support denying gays rights. They do have a right to marry. Just not to redefine it. It’s simple. Quoting scattered obscure examples thousands of years old hardly makes the point in today’s America. Gays can have their unions or marry someone of the opposite sex. This is about a sexual preference, not rights. Aside from great decorating and “fabulous” yard parties, there is NO societal benefit to “gay marriage” (if it even existed). There is a societal benefit to “true” marriage… Procreation.

Why are we letting Libs dictate the narrative on this? There is NO gay marriage… In every corner of the globe, in every culture, in every religion in all of history, there has NEVER been gay marriage. You wanna live together… fine! It’s no marriage. However, to be fair, gays DO have the right to marry… Someone of the opposite sex, just like we all do! So, this is all about a sexual preference and abnormalities. Keep marriage as is and traditional. Don’t back down. Take a stand! We can tolerate gays. But we don’t have to change our morals, traditions, history, definitions & culture to do so. Trying to redefine issues to assert your right is like.. HERE! I’m a straight guy trying who talk his wife into threesomes with hot nannies! If you deny me, then you are a hater! It’s just who I am. I’ve know it for years. I’m a “nannysexual” and I demand my rights… Redefine marriage to include my wife and I marrying a smokin’ hot nanny! Yeah… that’s the idea!There is a societal benefit from heterosexual marriage… It’s called PROCREATION! Gay marriage doesn’t offer that… So, there is NO gay marriage. Plus, to show my appreciation to society, I promise to procreate with my two hot wives!

In ALL of human history, marriage is defined as being between a man and woman… That’s it. Anything is NOT a marriage. Redefining is BS. Call the gay relationship anything you want, but it’s NOT marriage. Gay have the right to marry… Just like everyone else. However, “marry” has always been “man and woman”… Making this a civil rights issue is a cheap attempt at legitimacy on the backs of true civil rights issues… Blacks, women, voting, slavery, etc. Not this feeble attempt at validation. Conservatives do NOT agree with gay marriage… No such thing. If they wanna marry, fine! Just with someone of the opposite sex like the rest of us. Oh… California sucks.

That's not quite accurate, Pete.
Gay marriages where common in the Zhou Dynasty period of China, the Early Roman Empire, Greece, Spain in the 11th century, and other places as well.
Not saying they were right or wrong... just saying they existed.

March 6, 2013 at 9:36am

VRW Conspirator responded:

Hey Peteoh...
did you know that CA citizens have voted 3 times in the past 20 years to define marriage as ONLY between a man and a woman...Prop 8 was the most recent...since it was passed in 2008, the law has been tied up in court over and over and over again...even now before the SCOTUS....
the support for traditional marriage in CA used to be in the high 60's but the last Prop 8 vote was low 50's....mainly due to the large demographic change in CA...hispanics now make up the largest ethnic group...even over whites by 4%...in the state...and while they tend to be more religious and traditional...they vote more with the Dem's and liberals...stupid and weird but true...
so..don't bash CA...2/3 of the counties in CA are solidly red...the 1/3 that are blue just have almost 60% of the state's population in them....so the state goes blue 55-45% for the last 20 years...
and besides...regardless that there is a religious and moral arguement against gay-marriage and redefining the term....it is a State's Rights Issue and the National GOP should say that and state it that way.... gay-marriage DOES NOT belong on the National party platform..
if the RNC would simply make a statement saying "we know the religious and moral arguments against redefining marriage but we must hold to the Constitution and the 10th Amendment, this issue belongs at the state level, like abortion, drug legalization, and many others"

March 6, 2013 at 9:40am

PeteOH responded:

Why are we letting Libs dictate the narrative on this? There is NO gay marriage… In every corner of the globe, in every culture, in every religion in all of history, there has NEVER been gay marriage. You wanna live together… fine! It’s no marriage. However, to be fair, gays DO have the right to marry… Someone of the opposite sex, just like we all do! So, this is all about a sexual preference and abnormalities. Keep marriage as is and traditional. Don’t back down. Take a stand! We can tolerate gays. But we don’t have to change our morals, traditions, history, definitions & culture to do so. Trying to redefine issues to assert your right is like.. HERE! I’m a straight guy trying who talk his wife into threesomes with hot nannies! If you deny me, then you are a hater! It’s just who I am. I’ve know it for years. I’m a “nannysexual” and I demand my rights… Redefine marriage to include my wife and I marrying a smokin’ hot nanny! Yeah… that’s the idea!There is a societal benefit from heterosexual marriage… It’s called PROCREATION! Gay marriage doesn’t offer that… So, there is NO gay marriage. Plus, to show my appreciation to society, I promise to procreate with my two hot wives!

March 6, 2013 at 9:56am

CapnCrumbles32 responded:

I'm tired of this line "Hispanics are more religious". Anything can be your 'religion'. Religion just means a system of beliefs and practices. To say someone is 'religious' is to say they have a belief system, which every human being does whether it's established and popular or not. Be specific. When you say they are religious do you mean that Hispanics are Christians? Because they are not! Most worship images of the virgin Mary and the pope and they have no knowledge or understanding of scripture or a relationship with Christ. Sad but true! This expectation on behalf of conservatives that deep down Hispanics hold the same beliefs as us is a farse. They are very liberal through and through.

March 6, 2013 at 9:57am

VRW Conspirator responded:

Peteoh
actually...the libertarian and constitutionalist movement have been on this issue WAY before the liberals/DNC.....they have been screaming that abortion and marriage and education belong at the state and local level...
the liberals simply saw an opportunity to lock up one more voting block and took it...they REALLY do not care about gays or any other group, like blacks or hispanics, they just want the power and the votes...and once they have it...you will see Hitler again...and the first thing that Hitler did was KILL all of the groups off that got him elected....
the gays and minorities will be the first to be locked up in the camps....and the right wing extremists that once decried the dictator will praise him not realizing that they are next....

March 6, 2013 at 10:22am

JohnofOregon responded:

This is the issue that the democrat party finally destroyed the Republican Party with back in 2005ish.
By placing rino's in key legislative position, liberal democrats got the Republican Party to not just spilt into 2parties, but they were successful in splitting it into 3 parties.
The republicrats
The constitutional party
Non affiliated conservatives and Christians
Pick ups were made in libertarians and independents. The democrats lost some to the greens.
The Republican Party damaged itself so bad that it will not be able to gain a state wide seat for decades. The bizarre twist was when the republican senator Gordon smith used far left liberals in his commercials because of his support of gay marriage ended his career while Jeff merkly portrayed himself as a typical guy worried about jobs and families. Conservatives voted in that election. They did not vote in that race.
This was engineered completely by log cabin republicans. That's the ones that support bigger government, less freedom, more taxes, anti-free speech, less states rights and the elimination of religious liberty.
You know ...democrats
I cannot believe beck continues to promote cupp and other democrat operatives. The end game is elimination of conservatives and a smoother transition to accepted socialism.

March 6, 2013 at 10:30am

Locked responded:

@Peteoh
"In every corner of the globe, in every culture, in every religion in all of history, there has NEVER been gay marriage."
Reread Eastinfection's response to you. He provided several examples proving your sentence here factually incorrect.

March 6, 2013 at 11:19am

PeteOH responded:

In fact, a few same-sex marriages were performed by the deranged Roman Emperor Nero (who was gay and the 1st Roman Emperor to "marry" a man) and would still have NO legal standing in Rome... It was basically ceremonial with no legal impact. Otherwise, most or all references in ancient times state "same-sex unions", "marriage-like" and "relationships". No reference to Greeks EVER referring to same-sex unions as "marriages". EVER. As for Spain, there was ONE performed by some priest in 1061. Wanna guess his fate or what the Church did about it? In China, they weren't marriages. They were ceremonies where a guy would "bound" himself to another. Not a marriage. And to your point (which was well made), there may have been some same-sex "marriage" by a rogue authority. I believe in states rights and am comforted that marriage has been held traditional in Ohio by law. Per the 2010 census, gays are 1.8% of the US population. I would never support denying gays rights. They do have a right to marry. Just not to redefine it. It's simple. Quoting scattered obscure examples thousands of years old hardly makes the point in today's America. Gays can have their unions or marry someone of the opposite sex. This is about a sexual preference, not rights. Aside from great decorating and "fabulous" yard parties, there is NO societal benefit to "gay marriage" (if it even existed). There is a societal benefit to "true" marriage... Procreation.

March 6, 2013 at 11:36am

Locked responded:

@Peteoh
"Aside from great decorating and “fabulous” yard parties, there is NO societal benefit to “gay marriage” (if it even existed)."
So... you're saying there are benefits? And it doesn't harm anyone? And the government shouldn't even have constitutional power over marriage in the first place? Welcome to the conservative case for allowing gay marriage.
"There is a societal benefit to “true” marriage… Procreation."
If you think marriage is required for procreation, you might want to review basic biology. :-)
There are many benefits for being married (inheritance being one of the important ones; 5th amendment being another) that have nothing to do with procreation. And while creating a stable environment for children is definitely one goal of marriage, it certainly is not the only one (nor should it be; I'm sure my aging parents would be very upset if they were declared not married because children no longer live with them).
Personally, when it comes to tax benefits, I think married couples should only have them when they have children living with them under the age of 18. Tax benefits simply for being married seems ridiculous; saying that they are to encourage procreation is silly (just confer the benefits once the child is alive).

March 6, 2013 at 11:38am

VRW Conspirator responded:

@John
you are right about this issue splitting up the GOP into factions but it was not a Democrat issue really...as I already stated, the libertarian and constitutionalist issue way before that....whether you believe the right to decide marriage/abortion/education policy belongs with the States or the individual religion/community...that predates the Progressive inclusion of this plank into their platform, which only has happened openly in the last 20 years.
what the Republicans need to do it stick with the big pillars laid out by Reagan and those of his era... strong defense, low taxes/pro business atmosphere, protection for life at all stages and in all places, and MAXIMUM personal liberty and the lowest possible government intrusion into your daily life.
Reagan tried to give the States back control of several areas, like education, but he was fought even by elements of his own party.
I think Glenn said it best last week while talking to three different heads of libertarian organizations. You can't win by just jumping back to 1791 in one step...you need to work over a long period starting with the low hanging fruit, like return of control on education, drugs, marriage and the like to local and State levels. All of these ideas are something that the majority of American voters approve of and would rally behind. THEN you can start with major entitlement draw down and removal and foreign policy issues.

March 6, 2013 at 11:49am

Walkabout responded:

Eastinfection
I have read stuff about homosexuality in Rome. It was something to hide or be ashamed of unless you were immensely powerful.
People complained about Hadrian's Bythnian lover. Legionaires made fun of Ceasar's Bythnian escapades. He survived because he was from a noble family & there was no proof. Later he was a successful general.
Generally Roman men had to be tops. If they were bottoms they were toast. That does not sound like a ringing endorsement of homosexuality to me.
I also read that Caracalla or Commodus had a gay lover. Upon becoming emperor & traveling to Rome for the hinterlands, well Sartorius ...uhmmmm... didn't make it. It does not sound like people accepted it except at the point of a sword (or barrel of a gun).
Perusing the latest issue of National Geographic would be in order. It has a good article on Bonobos. It is not all that it is cracked up to be.
Also in ancient Greece I am not impressed by the relationships by rich property holding Greek men & young boys. Generally the sexual part of the relationship ended when they boy became hirsute/ hit puberty. Why is that? It might be dangerous to continue as before. After all the youth is stronger , more willful & independent than before. that is someone might get shanked if they tried to carry on as before. Why would the "couple be on friendly terms after the boy hits puberty? POWER. I am not impressed.

March 6, 2013 at 11:57am

VRW Conspirator responded:

@Lock and Peteoh
see...we all do agree...it isn't that the conservative/libertarian case for "gay marriage" isn't logically sound it is simply that on a purely religious/faith based level...many Americans disagree with calling it "marriage" since God created the institution of marriage between one man and one woman for the purpose of procreation and even states that "a man will leave his father and woman will leave her mother, and the two shall become one"...meaning in body, mind, and spirit....
but the government per many of the Amendments SHALL NOT infringe on the individual in this area...

March 6, 2013 at 12:28pm

carbonyes responded:

There is nothing conservative about the gay lifestyle or gay marriage, nor is it a conservative position to support either. It is the death knell for all those she support that aberrant lifestyle and the demise of the wayward, timid Republican Party, which in many respects has already lost its mooring. The demise and destruction of any nation on the face of the earth has followed the acceptance of immoral behavior and the promotion of the same - invariably. America will be no exception.
Obama has a special place prepared for him in Hell. He is the furthest thing from being a Christian, and nearly everything he promotes is contrary to God and His Word and further Obama has mocked God and Christianity. Others have done like him and died a horrible death. Doubtful that he will be an exception.
The naysayers on here. You may want to reconsider your positions. Better to discover the Truth here and be set free than to be judged by the Truth in the hereafter.

March 6, 2013 at 1:00pm

carbonyes responded:

EASTINFECTION, better recheck your "facts" - no gay marriage in Rome, Spain or Greece, and I don't believe there was in China either.

March 6, 2013 at 2:27pm

Walkabout responded:

This is the closest thing I can find. This is based on Boswell's work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelphopoiesis
If Boswell is right, then why did it not continue?
I misspelled someone's name. The name is Saoterus not Sartorius. The insinuation is that Saoterus was Commodus's lover. Well if gay marriage was accepted in Rome, you would think that you would not be able to insinuate against it. Need I say more?

March 6, 2013 at 2:37pm

Walkabout responded:

The Zhou. Well Darn, I'll have to look it up.
I basically remember the Han (1st & 2nd Periods ) the Tang, the Sung, Yuan, Ming & Qing.
I did find this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Leveret_Spirit
It is confined to 1 province. Although provinces in China can be rather large. It is repugnant to me.
It follows the same relationship. Older male with younger male like the Greeks, The Persians, The Turks, the Pashtuns. I do not like it when the Pashtuns do it (Bacha Bazi), why would I respect this.
It seems more a matter of poverty or gold digging. I have never cheered on gold digging or May December Romances.

March 6, 2013 at 2:57pm

Bikkiboo responded:

"Marriage" is between a man and a woman. I don't have a problem with some kind of legal contract with a ceremony, but it is not a marriage. That's like calling a dog a cat.
Remember where we are in time: As the days of Noah were...

March 6, 2013 at 10:44pm

HarryPotter responded:

It really doesn't matter if it's always been done that way. Up until 150 years ago, the world had always had slavery. Did that make it right? Your argument here is not valid, and frankly not true either.

March 7, 2013 at 6:42pm

ree758 responded:

No one has a problem with civil unions. Gay maraige will be used to tear down religion.Why are we talking about this

March 5, 2013 at 11:44am

These are how hockey fights will be under Obama’s 2nd term… Scoreless soccer games for our kids, no tackling in the NFL, shorter hoops for the whites guys in the NBA, dogs and cats living together…

As a party, we can support equal rights for gays WITHOUT inventing new ones or redefining anything! They can vote, work, own property whatever..We don’t need to support gay marriage or gays being forced on the rest of the military to be generally supportive. Don’t forget, this is simply a sexual preference. *** Why do we let Libs dictate the narrative on this? There is NO gay marriage. In every corner of the globe, in every culture, in every religion in all of history, there has NEVER been gay marriage. You wanna live together… fine! It’s no marriage. However, to be fair, gays DO have the right to marry Someone of the opposite sex, just like we all do! So, this is all about a sexual preference and abnormalities. Keep marriage as is and traditional. Don’t back down. Take a stand! We can tolerate gays. We don’t have to change our morals, traditions, history, definitions & culture to do so.Trying to redefine issues to assert your right is like. HERE! I’m a straight guy trying who talk his wife into threesomes with hot nannies! If you deny me, then you are a hater! It’s just who I am. I’ve know it for years. I’m a “nannysexual” and I demand my rights. Redefine marriage to include my wife and I marrying a smokin’ hot nanny! Yeah… that’s the idea!There is a societal benefit from heterosexual marriage. It’s called PROCREATION! Gay marriage can’t offer that. There is NO gay marriage. Plus, to show my appreciation to society, I promise to procreate wit

Very well put! This is a slippery slope. The other side will use labels and bully us into not only tollerating thier sexual perversions, they want to normalize, and even have us celebrate it!
Im sorry, but Im not making a show of my sexuality, nor am I having Strait parades, or forcing people to celebrate my religious convictions on Marriage between a man and a woman.

February 28, 2013 at 11:28am

crazyrightwingmom responded:

Great post.

February 26, 2013 at 10:23pm

Why are letting Libs dictate the narrative on this? There is NO gay marriage… In every corner of the globe, in every culture, in every religion in all of history, there has NEVER been gay marriage. You wanna live together… fine! It’s no marriage. However, to be fair, gays DO have the right to marry… Someone of the opposite sex, just like we all do! So, this is all about a sexual preference and abnormalities..Keep marriage as is and traditional. Don’t back down. Take a stand! We can tolerate gays. But we don’t have to change our morals, traditions, history, definitions & culture to do so. Trying to redefine issues to assert your right is like.. HERE! I’m a straight guy trying who talk his wife into threesomes with hot nannies! If you deny me, then you are a hater! It’s just who I am. I’ve know it for years. I’m a “nannysexual” and I demand my rights… Redefine marriage to include my wife and I marrying a smokin’ hot nanny! Yeah… that’s the idea!There is a societal benefit from heterosexual marriage… It’s called PROCREATION! Gay marriage doesn’t offer that… So, there is NO gay marriage. Plus, to show my appreciation to society, I promise to procreate with my two hot wives!

WHERE are the honest lawyers? Where is the MEDIA? SCOTUS in the later 1960s ruled that governments, specifically the police, are NOT required to provide for individual protection.. Only the “common defense” and that they can’t be held responsible for someone’s death. Again in 2005, SCOTUS ruled basically the same way in a case out of Colorado. SCOTUS is very clear that individuals are responsible for their own protection. The SECOND Amendment ends with “shall not be infringed” and the EIGHTH Amendment prohibits cruel and unusual punishment (A life long ban on an indiviual NOT a threat to others is wrong!). Also, Courts in the US embrace “DOUBLE JEOPARDY”… Basically stating that you can’t be tried or punsihed twice for the same offense (convicted, sentenced and served for an offense and THEN a lifetime ban is wrong!). ADD IT UP!… If SCOTUS says that police have no duty to protect individuals, if SCOTUS says that individuals are responsible for their own protection and the Gov’t strips away your right and even ability to protect yourself and family, then this is conflicting and WRONG?! WHERE ARE THE LAWYERS!!!! Someone answer

I could MAYBE see the offense if Barry was PERHAPS southern black… He’s not. He’s Kenyan black… Maybe they could cry foul if he was eating a monkey… Wasn’t Barry’s alleged father a goat herder as a boy? Maybe a funny ad would even have Hussein endorsing a burka…”ah… um… it’s the only thing that can cover up, I mean fit Michelle’s, um, well, you know”… or Hussein endorsing those earth sandles… “um, they keep my feet comfy when a have to climb all those stairs to sing the call to prayer”… Or, persian rugs… “easy on my knees when I drop for prayers five times a day… Hey, which way is east?”
But these sissies are upset about a picture of him eating chicken? He ATE it! And, he invited the slobbering press to capture the moment. With that standard, every Italian would be pissed about Barry eating a pizza!

I hope to be picked for a jury one day. The day a TSA agent is on for molesting a child at a check point.

February 19, 2013 at 12:08am

Fan… The victim resisted arrest from three deputies. This happens because many cops become removed for concern because of their perceived immunity from any sort of meaningful consequence. Way too many times, cops have been recorded slugging a woman, tazing a 75 year old granny, shooting without cause and so on. For those of us who support police (and have many that are friends) matters like this make it very difficult to be supportive. There needs to be more recourse. Cops can’t be above the law, kill a suspect, say “oops” or “officer safety”.. With either excuse, you are in the wrong line of work! God bless this poor young man… Struggled through life just to be killed by the very people who are supposed to protect him, over a friggin’ movie ticket!? Let’s see what happens to the cops if this proves to be true.