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Mashallah

Posted 05 July 2015 - 10:09 PM

I've nearly disappeared for quite a while from this forum so I think that I should post at least some semblance of an explanation of what happened.

Therefore, here it is:
I came out to my mother as trans in late March. It went seemingly smooth, but downhill after that. After some time I couldn't bear it any more and decided to run away from home. On June 1st, I ran away to Moscow where I stayed at a friend's place. I also had a risky plan on how to semi-illegally migrate to USA within less than a year (it's not something I want to talk much about, though).

But then, something that could be described as a miracle happened: my mother told my other relatives that I'm transgender and they generally accepted me far better than she did, completely contradicting all my expectations. Even my father turned out to be understanding. Thus, I soon moved to Serbia where my relatives provided me with a separate flat (they rented it).

Today, I just moved in into my father's house and my life is better than it ever was. Literally all of my relatives call me Maria and address me as female by now.

I'm also currently enrolling into a good Serbian university.

I'm sorry if this isn't too coherent, I'm just really sleepy as of the moment of writing this.

Futurist

Posted 06 July 2015 - 06:16 AM

@AA: Out of curiosity--did you dad take the news that you are transgender better than your mom did? I just want to make sure about this part.

Surprisingly, yes.

I am actually extremely amazed about this considering what you previously told me about your dad.

That said, though, for all I know, your dad could have felt guilty about how he previously treated you after he found out that you are transgender and decided to try making it up to you. Am I way off-base here, or am I actually onto something here?

Mashallah

Posted 06 July 2015 - 06:35 AM

@AA: Out of curiosity--did you dad take the news that you are transgender better than your mom did? I just want to make sure about this part.

Surprisingly, yes.

I am actually extremely amazed about this considering what you previously told me about your dad.

That said, though, for all I know, your dad could have felt guilty about how he previously treated you after he found out that you are transgender and decided to try making it up to you. Am I way off-base here, or am I actually onto something here?

About a month before my mother told my father that I'm trans, she told him that I have serious psychological issues because of him that made me attempt suicide twice... I think that this was the decisive factor more or less.

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I don't like being lied to, but I'm also tired of The Truth.

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Futurist

Posted 06 July 2015 - 06:51 AM

@AA: Out of curiosity--did you dad take the news that you are transgender better than your mom did? I just want to make sure about this part.

Surprisingly, yes.

I am actually extremely amazed about this considering what you previously told me about your dad.

That said, though, for all I know, your dad could have felt guilty about how he previously treated you after he found out that you are transgender and decided to try making it up to you. Am I way off-base here, or am I actually onto something here?

About a month before my mother told my father that I'm trans, she told him that I have serious psychological issues because of him that made me attempt suicide twice... I think that this was the decisive factor more or less.

Understood. However, I am surprised that your father didn't previously know that beating a child because he or she "wasn't masculine enough" could cause this child to have serious psychological issues and/or to attempt suicide.

TheComrade

Posted 06 July 2015 - 04:21 PM

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Do you know Serbian?

Yes. It's one of the three languages at which I'm fluent.

Cool. But still let me doubt this. And let me play Sherlock Holmes here... i can easily imagine Russian person with fluent English, but with fluent Serbian? Living in SPB, you could hardly met many Serbs to raise your skills neither had any real reason to do that. Long-long ago you yourself told that despite thelow income of your family, you're still studying in one of the best universities of SPB. I'm glad for you. But this low income also means you're hardly the person who often travelled to Serbia, only to spend some time with father whom you hated (according to your own words). I, for example, have some Jewish ancestry, some Jewish friends and even Jewish neighbour & still i don't know a single their word other than "shalom" since i don't need it in my everyday life.

That's what fuels my "pointless overskepticism". Yes, life is full of strange stories, but...

Yuli Ban

Posted 06 July 2015 - 04:23 PM

I've nearly disappeared for quite a while from this forum so I think that I should post at least some semblance of an explanation of what happened.

Therefore, here it is:
I came out to my mother as trans in late March. It went seemingly smooth, but downhill after that. After some time I couldn't bear it any more and decided to run away from home. On June 1st, I ran away to Moscow where I stayed at a friend's place. I also had a risky plan on how to semi-illegally migrate to USA within less than a year (it's not something I want to talk much about, though).

But then, something that could be described as a miracle happened: my mother told my other relatives that I'm transgender and they generally accepted me far better than she did, completely contradicting all my expectations. Even my father turned out to be understanding. Thus, I soon moved to Serbia where my relatives provided me with a separate flat (they rented it).

Today, I just moved in into my father's house and my life is better than it ever was. Literally all of my relatives call me Maria and address me as female by now.

I'm also currently enrolling into a good Serbian university.

I'm sorry if this isn't too coherent, I'm just really sleepy as of the moment of writing this.

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And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future.

Mashallah

Posted 06 July 2015 - 06:12 PM

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Do you know Serbian?

Yes. It's one of the three languages at which I'm fluent.

Cool. But still let me doubt this. And let me play Sherlock Holmes here... i can easily imagine Russian person with fluent English, but with fluent Serbian? Living in SPB, you could hardly met many Serbs to raise your skills neither had any real reason to do that. Long-long ago you yourself told that despite thelow income of your family, you're still studying in one of the best universities of SPB. I'm glad for you. But this low income also means you're hardly the person who often travelled to Serbia, only to spend some time with father whom you hated (according to your own words). I, for example, have some Jewish ancestry, some Jewish friends and even Jewish neighbour & still i don't know a single their word other than "shalom" since i don't need it in my everyday life.

That's what fuels my "pointless overskepticism". Yes, life is full of strange stories, but...

Jа не видим шта ниjе вероватно у овоме.

I lived in Serbia since I was 5 years old 'til I was 9 years old. My father is Serbian. A lot of my relatives are Serbian.

Why can't I be fluent at Serbian?

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Mashallah

Posted 06 July 2015 - 06:22 PM

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Though I have to admit one thing: my Serbian vocabulary is narrow as hell and I'll have to practice it. But I'm fluent in the sense that I can speak it absolutely freely without any delays or problems until I stumble upon words that I don't know. I even mostly don't have an accent.

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I don't like being lied to, but I'm also tired of The Truth.

Man cannot remake himself without suffering, for he is both the marble and the sculptor.

Rainbow Frog

Posted 06 July 2015 - 09:09 PM

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Do you know Serbian?

Yes. It's one of the three languages at which I'm fluent.

Cool. But still let me doubt this. And let me play Sherlock Holmes here... i can easily imagine Russian person with fluent English, but with fluent Serbian? Living in SPB, you could hardly met many Serbs to raise your skills neither had any real reason to do that. Long-long ago you yourself told that despite thelow income of your family, you're still studying in one of the best universities of SPB. I'm glad for you. But this low income also means you're hardly the person who often travelled to Serbia, only to spend some time with father whom you hated (according to your own words). I, for example, have some Jewish ancestry, some Jewish friends and even Jewish neighbour & still i don't know a single their word other than "shalom" since i don't need it in my everyday life.

That's what fuels my "pointless overskepticism". Yes, life is full of strange stories, but...

What benefit would there be to her lying to us?

It's not like she is payed to say these things.

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Outlook

Posted 07 July 2015 - 06:03 AM

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Though I have to admit one thing: my Serbian vocabulary is narrow as hell and I'll have to practice it. But I'm fluent in the sense that I can speak it absolutely freely without any delays or problems until I stumble upon words that I don't know. I even mostly don't have an accent.

Same situation with my Arabic. Vocabulary narrow, but grammar and accent is ace. It's why I bought an Arabic-English dictionary, but memorizing words is harder than I thought. It should be easier though to build up vocabulary when your environment is filled with the language you try to learn.