FunkOut:Mad_Radhu: Tencolin: psychicdeath99: Eventually Mr. Science is going to figure out the Governor is evil.

I wonder if he was even a real scientist before the zombie apocalypse. I mean, he does seem to have some methodology to his little experiments, but Milton strikes me more as someone with a bachelor's in psychology.

I see him as the kind of guy who would create a 13 month calendar full of new age bullshiat.

I see him as the guy who taught grade 5 and wasn't very good at it.

He's the Walking Dead's version of Dr. Arzt. Hope he doesn't handle any dynamite.

NeoCortex42:FunkOut: Mad_Radhu: Tencolin: psychicdeath99: Eventually Mr. Science is going to figure out the Governor is evil.

I wonder if he was even a real scientist before the zombie apocalypse. I mean, he does seem to have some methodology to his little experiments, but Milton strikes me more as someone with a bachelor's in psychology.

I see him as the kind of guy who would create a 13 month calendar full of new age bullshiat.

I see him as the guy who taught grade 5 and wasn't very good at it.

He's the Walking Dead's version of Dr. Arzt. Hope he doesn't handle any dynamite.

Heh. Poor Milton. I want to see more of his asinine zombie experiments before he goes all Arzt.

So half the group is out on walkabout and the other half don't notice a strange car drive up or a strange person someone getting into the guard tower. Yeah, I think I'd take my chances with Merle out in the wilderness.

I'm probably splitting hairs, but wouldn't those rounds go right through Axel into Carol? I'm not 100% on the type of assault rifles used (looked like an M4 and a Steyr Aug?), but it seems like the rounds would be high enough velocity to go through a body.

They've been in there for over a week now and they still don't have it secured. There are perimeter breaches they don't even know about. They should have just fortified a "keep" that is locked down tight and draw the Woodbury team in and pick them apart Viet Cong style. WOUND people instead of killing them.

Woodbury itself is an even bigger pillow fort. They don't have enough shooters to man the wall. Send in Michonne nightly and have her come back and start her own Idi Amin memorial severed head aquarium. The population of Woodbury would collapse in panic.

bearcats1983:I'm probably splitting hairs, but wouldn't those rounds go right through Axel into Carol? I'm not 100% on the type of assault rifles used (looked like an M4 and a Steyr Aug?), but it seems like the rounds would be high enough velocity to go through a body.

bearcats1983:I'm probably splitting hairs, but wouldn't those rounds go right through Axel into Carol? I'm not 100% on the type of assault rifles used (looked like an M4 and a Steyr Aug?), but it seems like the rounds would be high enough velocity to go through a body.

Any gun nuts (term of endearment...) have an idea?

Depends on what type of rounds, hunting rounds are designed to slow down in a body and do a ton of damage. If you watched mythbusters with higher energy rounds, they break up REALLY fast, where slower rounds go deeper.

bearcats1983:I'm probably splitting hairs, but wouldn't those rounds go right through Axel into Carol? I'm not 100% on the type of assault rifles used (looked like an M4 and a Steyr Aug?), but it seems like the rounds would be high enough velocity to go through a body.

Any gun nuts (term of endearment...) have an idea?

You'd be right. Either one fires the 5.56 mm NATO standard and a skinny guy like that wouldn't stop a round like that. Hollywood physics.

bearcats1983:I'm probably splitting hairs, but wouldn't those rounds go right through Axel into Carol? I'm not 100% on the type of assault rifles used (looked like an M4 and a Steyr Aug?), but it seems like the rounds would be high enough velocity to go through a body.

Any gun nuts (term of endearment...) have an idea?

Depends on the type of bullets used. Expanding hunting bullets or full metal jacket. FMJ would be most likely used in those numbers, so yeah, they'd probably go through the body.

One Bad Apple:bearcats1983: I'm probably splitting hairs, but wouldn't those rounds go right through Axel into Carol? I'm not 100% on the type of assault rifles used (looked like an M4 and a Steyr Aug?), but it seems like the rounds would be high enough velocity to go through a body.

Any gun nuts (term of endearment...) have an idea?

You'd be right. Either one fires the 5.56 mm NATO standard and a skinny guy like that wouldn't stop a round like that. Hollywood physics.

So, we can suspend disbelief about the existence of zombies, but when a bullet doesn't "act right", we have to have a discussion about it?

One Bad Apple:AkaDad: Defend the prison or take the fight to Woodbury?

I'm going with defend the prison.

They've been in there for over a week now and they still don't have it secured. There are perimeter breaches they don't even know about. They should have just fortified a "keep" that is locked down tight and draw the Woodbury team in and pick them apart Viet Cong style. WOUND people instead of killing them.

Woodbury itself is an even bigger pillow fort. They don't have enough shooters to man the wall. Send in Michonne nightly and have her come back and start her own Idi Amin memorial severed head aquarium. The population of Woodbury would collapse in panic.

That's a good argument.

I figure they know the prison and there's all kinds of chokepoints. Then again, the woods are so close, they can just pick people off when they go outside.

One Bad Apple:They've been in there for over a week now and they still don't have it secured. There are perimeter breaches they don't even know about. They should have just fortified a "keep" that is locked down tight and draw the Woodbury team in and pick them apart Viet Cong style. WOUND people instead of killing them.

Woodbury itself is an even bigger pillow fort. They don't have enough shooters to man the wall. Send in Michonne nightly and have her come back and start her own Idi Amin memorial severed head aquarium. The population of Woodbury would collapse in panic.

There was too much forced drama tonight. At a time where the group knew they were in danger, they all did the stupidest things possible. Rick went nuts, Maggie started pulling a Lori, Glen went nuts, Darryl and Merle were off wandering around, and no one on watch was actually watching anything. Even by the standards of tv drama, it was too much.

Mentat:One Bad Apple: They've been in there for over a week now and they still don't have it secured. There are perimeter breaches they don't even know about. They should have just fortified a "keep" that is locked down tight and draw the Woodbury team in and pick them apart Viet Cong style. WOUND people instead of killing them.

Woodbury itself is an even bigger pillow fort. They don't have enough shooters to man the wall. Send in Michonne nightly and have her come back and start her own Idi Amin memorial severed head aquarium. The population of Woodbury would collapse in panic.

There was too much forced drama tonight. At a time where the group knew they were in danger, they all did the stupidest things possible. Rick went nuts, Maggie started pulling a Lori, Glen went nuts, Darryl and Merle were off wandering around, and no one on watch was actually watching anything. Even by the standards of tv drama, it was too much.

I read a lot of history stuff. A lot of it is war-related. It's actually amazing how many times one side loses a battle for reasons much like the ones you've stated.

Axel just revealed he was gonna be a serial killer rapist in early drafts of his TV character... kinda glad they changed it up, less cartooney. And it was fun with him still being a creeper around the ladies, minus the whole RAPE RAPE RAPE thing

Kentucky Fried Children:Axel just revealed he was gonna be a serial killer rapist in early drafts of his TV character... kinda glad they changed it up, less cartooney. And it was fun with him still being a creeper around the ladies, minus the whole RAPE RAPE RAPE thing

There was a lot of internal group strife during the prison arc of the comic that was completely dropped for the TV series. Some of it was good, but I do enjoy that the TV series is really its own thing since it keeps me surprised regularly.

I'd put those guys in a different order: Busey is batshiat crazy, Gibson is slightly less crazy, and compared to the other two Sheen is the least crazy, but still crazier than the rest of us. (MOST of the rest of us)

NeoCortex42:Kentucky Fried Children: Axel just revealed he was gonna be a serial killer rapist in early drafts of his TV character... kinda glad they changed it up, less cartooney. And it was fun with him still being a creeper around the ladies, minus the whole RAPE RAPE RAPE thing

There was a lot of internal group strife during the prison arc of the comic that was completely dropped for the TV series. Some of it was good, but I do enjoy that the TV series is really its own thing since it keeps me surprised regularly.

I agree. It's nice being surprised by both the little and large differences. It's cool that he could play such a nice guy who was still creepy. I have to admit that I was always squeamish when he was in a potential position to be near the ladies (and especially Beth).