__________________Damn....Phil will endorse anything. What next....Duck Commander Condoms? Magnum sized in Max-4 camo for when you want to boom boom boom with your Suzy without worrying about her raising a brood....Matt

What's the purpose of the rifle? Plinking? Home defense? Hunting? Also, what's your budget? I usually recommend someone buy one and learn the platform if you're not already familiar with it. A S&W entry level rifle can be had for less than $600. If you're wanting something geared more towards HD, look at Daniel Defense, BCM, or Sons of Liberty Gunworks. Those will run in the $1000-1200 range. You can also find a Colt 6920 for around $800 if you shop around, but lots of guys poopoo on Colt nowadays for whatever reason.

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You'll get no sympathy from me. You want sympathy, look in the dictionary between shit and syphillis. That's where you'll find my sympathy.

I saw NIB Smith and Wesson MP15 Sport IIs with dust cover and forward assist for 609.00 a while back. Lots of used ones in the 500 range.

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Want it for work and play. State will not issue me one and i want to get certified and take some patrol rifle classes so im just want to get my own.

If that's the case, I would go with a duty grade factory rifle. Built guns can be finicky. If it comes down to your life depending on it, you want the best you can afford. BCM, Daniel Defense, SOLGW, and Colt would all make sufficient patrol rifles.

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You'll get no sympathy from me. You want sympathy, look in the dictionary between shit and syphillis. That's where you'll find my sympathy.

If that's the case, I would go with a duty grade factory rifle. Built guns can be finicky. If it comes down to your life depending on it, you want the best you can afford. BCM, Daniel Defense, SOLGW, and Colt would all make sufficient patrol rifles.

If you're authorized to carry a personally owned rifle then I agree with Piggy. LMT is another option that's not stupid priced like Daniel Defense or LWRC. For plinking I'd just get whatever.

I know most people know this, but remember to budget for an optic, a 2 point sling (my preference by far) and gun light if it's for duty or a true defensive rifle. I also prefer a midlength gas system to carbine because it's a little smoother to shoot. Later you can add a nice trigger if you want it.