Post by Alan FrisbieDoes an Alpha version of the ODS-1 ACP exist, either officiallyor otherwise? If so, how can I get a copy?

None exists within VSI.

How hard can it be? If the code exists for VAX... ;-)

I once looked at that a long time ago. Much more complicated than Ithought it would be. Lots of ugly BLISS-32 code. Also, any macro codewas never put through the VAX-Alpha porting, which can get interesting.

Post by Alan FrisbieDoes an Alpha version of the ODS-1 ACP exist, either officiallyor otherwise? If so, how can I get a copy?Thanks,Alan

Alan,

The answer has always been "no".

The caveat more recently has been:

- Run one of the VAX emulators- Run OpenVMS on simulated VAX- Configure (possibly LD virtual disks) for the emulated environment- Copy the files to an ODS-2/5 volume- Access the ODS-2/5 volume from the Alpha

Post by Bob Gezelter- Run one of the VAX emulators- Run OpenVMS on simulated VAX- Configure (possibly LD virtual disks) for the emulated environment- Copy the files to an ODS-2/5 volume- Access the ODS-2/5 volume from the AlphaHope the above is helpful.

Like the vast majority of your answers, not at all.

Those steps are totally obvious to the most casual observer.The goal was to eliminate one of them.

Does an Alpha version of the ODS-1 ACP exist, either officially orotherwise? If so, how can I get a copy?

DEC never brought ODS-1 support or tooling past OpenVMS VAX.

Get the OpenVMS source listings and figure out how to build it (and Idon't recall anybody in ZKO even looking at this, either; not past thedecision not to port), or fetch one of the open-source ODS readers foranother platform (one or two were on the OpenVMS Freeware) and startwith that.

Or port the PDP-11 or whatever source of this data forward from ODS-1to something with more current support. See if whatever PDP-11 boxinvolved here can generate something that EXCHANGE or some other filesystem or tool available for OpenVMS can deal with, for instance.EXCHANGE does RT-11, FILES11 (which won't help here), or DEC's DOS-11format. The /VIRTUAL support also won't help here, AFAIK.

XMODEM/YMODEM or ZMODEM or whatever the data across a serial or networkconnection.

Maybe start to replace the data source environment with hardware andsoftware from the post-PDP era? That'll be more disruptive short term,but better long-term as these problems only accrete.

Or write some OpenVMS glue code for whatever you're up to here.Scripting a SIMH launch and boot, at al. That's the usual approach,after all: more glue code, longer chains of dependencies. complexity.