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Iím a Fred for sureÖ Iím in what I would call the utility Fred category. Iím a man, I ride a Mixte with North road bars (that I like quite well) and a rear rack, with a frame pump that probably weighs as much as some of the new carbon bikes, and I ride in jeans, or regular shorts and a sport shirt, or T shirt, helmet with large visor, and stick on mirror... So Lance I am surly not. But, Iím good with that. Ps I'll be getting a new set of panniers next week.