SQLServerCentral.com / Editorials / SQLServerCentral.com / The Auto OS / Latest PostsInstantForum.NET v2.9.0SQLServerCentral.comhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/notifications@sqlservercentral.comSun, 02 Aug 2015 14:53:06 GMT20RE: The Auto OShttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1398765-263-1.aspx[quote][b]phonetictalk (12/20/2012)[/b][hr]I'd love to see cars offer the ability to download your data so you can analyze it yourself (or send it to 3rd parties who can analyze it).[/quote]Welcome to the 90's my friend! I can not only program my RC cars ESC I can download data from it. I've had an OBD-II reader for a long time and it was worth every cent it cost. Those tend to be more geared towards emissions, etc but I've been able to use it to diagnose issues with a Jaguar and Mercedes I used to own and correct the problems myself. There have been "piggy back" ECU modules for years that allow you to trick the controller in to letting all kinds of things to happen. Point is, what you would like not only exists, it has for a long time.Sun, 23 Dec 2012 18:14:36 GMTjfogelRE: The Auto OShttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1398765-263-1.aspxSteve, my wife drives a Prius 2. Her consumption is down to 4.4 liters per 100km, which is around 53mpg. She's very happy with that vehicle.Fri, 21 Dec 2012 03:09:57 GMTJan Van der EeckenRE: The Auto OShttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1398765-263-1.aspx[quote][b]phonetictalk (12/20/2012)[/b][hr]I'd love to see cars offer the ability to download your data so you can analyze it yourself (or send it to 3rd parties who can analyze it).[/quote]There are seemingly thousands of devices these days that plug into the obd2 port and do varying levels of scanning, logging and analysis.Just a fewhttp://www.race-keeper.com/OBDII http://www.racepak.com/Components/OBDII.phphttp://rlcracing.com/micro-pod-expander-obd-ii.htmhttp://www.vericomcomputers.com/OBDII.htmlThu, 20 Dec 2012 11:00:18 GMTbenjamin.reyesRE: The Auto OShttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1398765-263-1.aspx[quote][b]Narud (12/20/2012)[/b][hr]Unfortunatelly looks like the car's industry isn't worried about security when implements technologic improvements for its vehicles.[url]http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9229919/Car_hacking_Remote_access_and_other_security_issues[/url][/quote]Actually, if you read to the end of the article, it lays several ways that they're already working on improving security.Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:49:55 GMTGSquaredRE: The Auto OShttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1398765-263-1.aspxUnfortunatelly looks like the car's industry isn't worried about security when implements technologic improvements for its vehicles.[url]http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9229919/Car_hacking_Remote_access_and_other_security_issues[/url]Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:25:37 GMTNarudRE: The Auto OShttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1398765-263-1.aspxAs I write this, the wholesale price of a Pentium 4 is $3.00. There is no reason not to put these into everything and program the stuffing out of them.Thu, 20 Dec 2012 07:59:51 GMTGeorgeCopelandRE: The Auto OShttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1398765-263-1.aspx[quote][b]pdanes (12/20/2012)[/b][hr]Yeah, I can't wait until hackers get into car OSs and make the engines quit, shift into reverse on the freeway, floor the accelerator in the driveway, maybe even self-start and drive away under a hacker's control. What a neat concept - steal a car from the comfort of your own home, and have it drive itself to your place, or to your favorite chop shop.[/quote]Too late: [url=http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-20085131-48/remote-unlock-and-start-for-cars-hacked/]Remote unlock and start for cars hacked[/url]Of course, this requires a car that can be unlocked using a smartphone app to begin with, so your key-fob unlockable car is probably safe...[quote][b]phonetictalk[/b]I'd love to see cars offer the ability to download your data so you can analyze it yourself (or send it to 3rd parties who can analyze it). LeonardMadison, WI[/quote]You can now, actually. There are companies that sell devices that plug into the OBD-2 interface (that jack under the dash the dealership uses when you take your car in for service) Yeah, you need to have a bluetooth capable laptop in the car with you to actually capture the data for analyzing, but it's a start...[url=http://www.scantool.net/scan-tools/smart-phone/obdlink-mx.html]OBDLink[/url]Thu, 20 Dec 2012 07:23:44 GMTjasona.workRE: The Auto OShttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1398765-263-1.aspxBlack boxes. I was taught at University by the person this term was named after.http://www.whitehavennews.co.uk/home/copelandcrack-1.681091/who-really-invented-the-black-box-1.745517#Thu, 20 Dec 2012 06:38:41 GMTdes.browningRE: The Auto OShttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1398765-263-1.aspxDid you know your steering wheel's on the wrong side ?Thu, 20 Dec 2012 06:32:44 GMTdes.browningRE: The Auto OShttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1398765-263-1.aspxI'd love to see cars offer the ability to download your data so you can analyze it yourself (or send it to 3rd parties who can analyze it).Thu, 20 Dec 2012 06:32:27 GMTphonetictalkRE: The Auto OShttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1398765-263-1.aspxI've been experimenting with black boxes in cars. These plug into the small scart type socked under the steering wheel.In my car an over-revving problem has simply gone away since plugging in the box.I know of one guy who took his BMW to a dealer with an engine misfire problem only to be presented with the black box as the source of the problem.Vehicle manufacturers or more accurately their component suppliers need to agree on standards first before they start mucking around with operating systems. It's not just that a hacker might find it funny to make your car zoom off in the night but that a legitimate action might trigger that due to the register X meaning accelerate on one model and demist on another!Thu, 20 Dec 2012 02:34:11 GMTDavid.PooleRE: The Auto OShttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1398765-263-1.aspxYeah, I can't wait until hackers get into car OSs and make the engines quit, shift into reverse on the freeway, floor the accelerator in the driveway, maybe even self-start and drive away under a hacker's control. What a neat concept - steal a car from the comfort of your own home, and have it drive itself to your place, or to your favorite chop shop.Thu, 20 Dec 2012 01:40:48 GMTpdanesThe Auto OShttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1398765-263-1.aspxComments posted to this topic are about the item [B]<A HREF="/articles/Editorial/95673/">The Auto OS</A>[/B]Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:30:48 GMTSteve Jones - SSC Editor