Sorry, but you're wrong, bud. Yes, Spike was The Big Bad, for a while. You'll notice that in the last few seasons every lead villain on the series was being reffered to as the Big Bad by the Scooby gang. So I came to the conclusion that Grungahn is the Big Bad, and all of those characters working for him are Ubervamps...I mean baddies.

p.s.You're not the only Buffy/Angel freak around these parts.

you know you just may be right Grungahn may well be a bigger bad that spike, and there have been meny " big bads " as cioned by the gang but they just aren't Spike... He was after all the first and self proclaimed " big bad"I guess I'm a little byiss but the episode that showed spike before his vamp days was just the best... A poet and a " bloody awful " one at that being a vamp is the best thing for that poor guy. rock on ... DD...