I'm not giving up on this kid by any means, but he is running on fumes.

And because we can't rely on him at the moment, we are OFFICIALLY the same team we've been for the last 4 years.

Wanted for hire: individual who can put the puck in the net.

I think the longer season is really getting to him. Combine that with the fact that he needs to play with talent to really be effective but is stuck on the bottom lines isn't helping either. I think he will have a lot better season next year when he is more conditioned for the length of the season.

hahaha... That effort right there by Franzen depicts this game perfectly... Instead of trying to beat him or slam on the breaks and try to make a play... a soft little backhand flip on net without giving one s*** haha..

I think people need to stop looking at Iginla for a rental. We rarely acquire guys as just a rental and anybody trading for Iginla wont be considering him a rental. If Detroit trades for him it will be because we are resigning him and most likely letting fippula walk. I know people want to trade Filppula for something but he will be important to us in a playoff run.

I know people say they want Detroit to sell but we just don't do that. We have a small window left with Datsyuk in his prime and then we lose one of the best players in the game. Yes, we may not be named a TOP contender but this weekend we showed we can beat the number 2 team in the West, we have played fine against both Minny and Vancouver and our games against Chicago were all close ones that a player like Iginla could really help us win. At some point you have to sell a little bit of your future to play for the now. I have seen people on here asking for a Power forward, asking for a legit winger for Datsyuk but nobody wants to pay for it. We are not just going to mind a Milan Lucic hanging around out back of the Joe with a pair of skates over his shoulder.

The price is high on iginla but once again we have people saying they don't want to sell future parts which aren't even sure about but we are sure that Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Franzen only have a short window of opportunity left.

I say we give it a shot because I do not see us trading Filppula unless it was in a package for an upgrade.

EDIT: With all of that being said... I still want to know the price on Clowe...

imagine having a real true power forward in his prime and not a 35 yr old rental

Like many others have said, watch.... That's the best way to learn.. I can sit here and explain offsides and it would seem some what foreign... Watch what offsides looks like a couple times on TV and it starts to become more clear...

The best part is once you start learning the game and how it's played, you will slowly learn the little things players do that make them that much better then the rest of the guys on the ice.