then he needs to remove himself from those situations. Nothing good can come of it. Odell, mostly because of himself, is under a microscope. He needs to understand that.

You sound like my daughter. Daddy, can I wear makeup to school. No honey. But everyone else does!

I don't care what everyone else is doing. I don't care what Gronk gets away with. I don't care what Leonardo DiCaprio gets away with. OBJ is under a different microscope, just don't put yourself in that situation. He, or someone with him, invited this girl into his room and allowed her to do coke. This wasn't some big party, it was his hotel room and she was allowed to do coke. I've been in that situation before, it doesn't bother me, but Odell needs to understand that he's not just some everyday schlub.

Really think when these athletes or celebrities go to parties there are not drugs there?

Of course there are, like someone said on another thread, when you do coke you know you have money

That is ridiculous. Even if it were true, then they were smart enough not to allow someone to video it. Are you sore from contorting yourself into a pretzel to make excuses for Odell? Sorry, he fucked up. He has a problem tential payday coming up, and he literally canít keep his nose clean until it is done?

Really think when these athletes or celebrities go to parties there are not drugs there?

Of course there are, like someone said on another thread, when you do coke you know you have money

That is ridiculous. Even if it were true, then they were smart enough not to allow someone to video it. Are you sore from contorting yourself into a pretzel to make excuses for Odell? Sorry, he fucked up. He has a problem tential payday coming up, and he literally canít keep his nose clean until it is done?

Iím a big fan, but he is becoming harder and harder to defend.

The only mistake he made was letting himself get taped, that was the only thing he did wrong..

And you really don't think drugs are present when celebrities are partying? Seriously?

a few years back and I was amazed at how many people were doing coke in the apartment before we went out and then in the bathroom at the club. Iím talking an easy 10-15 people in a group of 50 or so. My wife and I were pretty surprised about it but it wasnít our business, ignored it and had fun regardless.

Point is this shit is common. Whether itís a few people in a room or a bunch of people in VIP at a club, it happens everywhere. You can be as cautious as you want, but itís going to happen and you just have to hope a quick video or picture doesnít slip through even if you arenít doing anything wrong.

Based on how incredibly popular Beckham has been for a while now, heís done a really good job not getting involved in this stuff. 1 slipped though the cracks so everyone will go nuts, shit happens.

if Beckham (or anyone else) doesnít want to pat down and confiscate phones every time he goes somewhere thatís his business. I know I wouldnít want to do that and thatís a risk that you take I guess. I also wouldnít want to hangout with anyone that took my phone. Not everyone wants to be like Jeter, a guy Iím guessing has been around coke once or twice in his day.

if Beckham (or anyone else) doesnít want to pat down and confiscate phones every time he goes somewhere thatís his business. I know I wouldnít want to do that and thatís a risk that you take I guess. I also wouldnít want to hangout with anyone that took my phone. Not everyone wants to be like Jeter, a guy Iím guessing has been around coke once or twice in his day.

I understand all of this. He's his own person, as long as he isn't partaking, who cares. Most of this is optics which is really only something for the drama queens to get dramatic over.

That being said, if you were a young kid with 100M on the line, wouldn't you be a little smarter and maybe not allow some random chick to do coke in your room? He has to know the situation better. He met some hot chick in the bar and he brings her up to his room. I'm guessing she asked if she can take a few bumps and he said fine. Or she pulls out some coke and starts to put it down. He's gotta be smarter and remove himself from that situation. It's really that simple for me.

I'm a huge Odell fan and I've defended him a ton on bbi because most of the crap he gets is unwarranted, but you cannot compare your life to his. He's a professional athlete in the public eye. He needs to know that and remove himself from any situation like this. It def shows poor judgement and immaturity.

what the point of being a pro athlete if you cant hang out on hotel rooms with chicks and blow?

if Beckham (or anyone else) doesnít want to pat down and confiscate phones every time he goes somewhere thatís his business. I know I wouldnít want to do that and thatís a risk that you take I guess. I also wouldnít want to hangout with anyone that took my phone. Not everyone wants to be like Jeter, a guy Iím guessing has been around coke once or twice in his day.

And why should we expect that when this chick offered to let Beckham do rails off her ass, he finally drew the line?

In four years of rationalizations for this guy the ones associated with this latest incident of dipshittery have to be the funniest.

donít know what to tell you. I donít think he ďlet it happenĒ. He learned a hard lesson and maybe he starts confiscating phones (or maybe he already has since the video is old).

Terps, Iím merely pointing out what happens when athletes donít go to bed at 9pm every night like youíd prefer. They go out and dumb shit like his happens, if you can choose to be mad at it and let it further stroke your ego, have at it.

ď The whole Gronk family was incredibly nice and interactive with the fans. Rob signed autographs after almost every single activity, he and his family took photos and interacted with guests throughout the day, and even his artists/guests were pleasant to interact with.Ē

Because that's what people do on a weekend-long booze cruise and music festival.

We pick and choose what we want to believe when it suits the cause.

Athletes need to insulate themselves from situations like being recorded, but let's not be entirely naive about the very different world of opportunities that are afforded to them that are completely alien to us. Especially for older sports fans who grew up in the 70s and 80s when this was rampant, you'd think there would be less surprise over the reveal that things like this do happen. I mean, the NHL has been getting negative press for high levels of cocaine use among their players as recently as two years ago.

I saw something that looked like a white line on a case or something that is lying on the bed between them but, the camera goes by so fast and out of focus - you can't identify what it is. I couldn't even tell if it was a line of anything - it could have been some sort of angle of a shadow or a reflection of something.

some other athlete you pay someone to take phones away. Roethlisburger had a cop with him in when he got in trouble. The security tapes magically vanished. Odell probably needs to make an investment in a body guard. Giants may tell him this.

It's not rationalizing, it's that some grown ups really can separate what a decently young man does off the field from his value on the field.

No one should be surprised OBJ was with someone who parties. Not shocked.

No one should be surprised OBJ did a silly dance. Not shocked.

No one should be surprised OBJ hit a wall once. Not shocked.

No one should be surprised OBJ gets emotional during games. Not shocked.

Plenty of grown ups only care about football and understand the team can employ players they don't like or don't care for their lifestyle. And they also realize the team can insure and secure contracts so signing imperfect people to the team isn't a hazard.

doing bonehead things at the same level as Beckham. It's just that in his case no one clutches their pearls and demands that something has to be done about it. Or assumes that he's a coke fiend. As if Gronk, in all his partying, has never been in the presence of drugs that are commonly associated with the kind of music scene he's into.

When the shit bubbles to the surface its because whatís underneath is bad.

I have no idea how bad it is but no one gets caught on video the first time. Its been going on awhile.

The failed tests or arrests and the rehab come later, not first. Hopefully he never gets there.

The most troubling sign is he has shown no sign of adjustment, no change after any incident and nothing despite a massive long term contract on the horizon. He was back in Miami just 4 weeks after the boat incident.

doing bonehead things at the same level as Beckham. It's just that in his case no one clutches their pearls and demands that something has to be done about it. Or assumes that he's a coke fiend. As if Gronk, in all his partying, has never been in the presence of drugs that are commonly associated with the kind of music scene he's into.

If gronk is in a video with cocaine 6 inches from him then people will assume he does cocaine

You made up a law about possession (which was a horrible swing and miss) and Odell is now definitively doing coke. Whatís next?

This far exceeds not wanting the Giants to invest in the guy.

People cant take me seriously?

You posted that the video may have been when Odell was in college when he looks nothing like his college self. Give me a break. When I posted his college photo you couldnt even bring yourself to admit hw wrong you were and how far you stretch to defend anything he does.

/Constructive possession is a legal fiction used to describe a situation where an individual has actual control over personal property, but not actual physical control. In other words, if the item is in your car, your room, or some area over which you have control, just not in your pocket, backpack, or in your hand. Under the laws of most states, a person with constructive possession is treated no differently than a person with actual possession." More on Constructive possession - ( New Window )

It was likely a blunt or cigar. There was a rumor it was from college from a separate thread which I commented on both there and here. I didnít see the picture of Odell in college but I think its safe to assume itís from atleast a year or two ago. Itís a guess and I can atleast admit I donít know for a fact.

It was likely a blunt or cigar. There was a rumor it was from college from a separate thread which I commented on both there and here. I didnít see the picture of Odell in college but I think its safe to assume itís from atleast a year or two ago. Itís a guess and I can atleast admit I donít know for a fact.

Thatís my last post on this thread. Have a good night.

Of course it is. You just accused me of making something up and i called you out on it and you have nothing.

Worked in concert promotions so yeah seen a few lines floating around but I'm nor someone on the verge of being
one of the highest paid players in the NFL no matter if
he is innocent or not the Owners likely did a face palm .
It's the last thing people needed to see . The optics are very bad IMO .

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