>>134150715Hey at least he joined aogiri because of the genocide of their people. What CCG/V are doing from their dead bodies and keep making weapons and juice just to make monsters. Shpinex sure got the right idea.

>>134151072Do you seriously believe that?So, what if CCG/V are gone? Do you think Aogiri's just going to disappear too? Their ideals is that they believe ghouls are superior and should start killing off humans, only keeping some alive for food.

>>134150094>There won't be spoilers/chapter until Wednesday>Faggot keeps making multiple threadsHow about shitposting on any English forums but here?Go choke on a dozen cocks shitposter-kun>>134151507>KanekiHe will die alone at the end like he deserves.>GayrimaHeh, he only wants to bang Haise's boypussy, at least.

“Q: It’s okay if there’s no Chinese scanlation, can we see the spoilers first?

A: The spoilers come from the raw provider, and the raw provider did not manage to buy the magazine, so it’s impossible for us to have any real spoilers and this is coming from the tieba Chinese scanlation team’s side.

As for other sources such as 2ch etc, those spoilers may not be trustable, unless there are pictures. Only spoilers with pictures can be trusted! Everyone please stick to this rule!!

Anyway, we still have raw providers who are able to buy spoilers from the 11th ward, but they are not necessarily willing to release spoilers, especially at this time.

Q: What’s the situation now?

A:

There are no spoilers on Saturday, as the man who was originally delivering spoilers to different stores got arrested.

Last week there was a holiday, so spoilers were early.

There won’t be spoilers on Sunday, because there isn’t delivery service on Sundays, so there won’t be magazines delivered to stores that day.

There won’t be spoilers on Monday, because the raw provider has lessons the whole day. From the shop’s opening hours to closing hours they will be having lessons, and since the shop is at least half an hour away from the school, it’s impossible for them to make it. Plus we can’t make them skip school every week to buy the magazine, so we have no choice but to give up on that.

We used to advertise every week looking for raw providers because we were afraid of situations where raw providers couldn’t get the raws. But no one came forward, or if they did they were unable to scan the raws. It’s not like they could scan it at a shop, that would be like getting caught red-handed.

And there won’t be spoilers on Tuesday too, because at the moment it’s confirmed that one of the stores selling the magazines is closed on Tuesdays.

At the moment we are no different from any of the baidu users, we don’t have any news about 55.

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I don’t want to repeatedly tell you guys this just so that everyone can say stuff like “oh raw provider, you’ve worked hard, oh Chinese scanlation team, you’ve worked hard too, we will wait, we will support you all”. Because the truth is, without the pictures, we also can’t do anything, no matter how much thanks and sympathy we get, it doesn’t change the anxiousness of the readers who want to read 55.

Some people aren’t sure about it and so they spread false information, rumours about us are already everywhere, and so 1 or 2 more postings doesn’t matter. But I wanted to explain why there aren’t any pictures now, and unless someone thinks their position is OK, is able to scan, and can get the raws on Monday, if not then from now on Chinese scans will be on Wednesday.

In any case, we aren’t sure about the English scanlation team’s side, but we’re sure the Korean scanlation group’s status is stable, though I don’t know when they release their scans.

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… And yes there will be a Season 3 in 2016, and it’s still Studio Pierrot animating it.”

If he hadn't been tortured, then he would have had no character development. That change was huge for him and without it, we'd probably just get his change at the end of the first season rather than him becoming Haise, and going through another change.

>>134153022So, had he not been tortured but still ended up "unleashing" his full ghoul sense, would it have been the same? Absolutely not. The series would have ended right there because people would drop the fuck out of it. That's way too shonen and no one here wants that unless you're a fucking newfag.

>>134153252I'm not sure if you're baiting or I'm retarded, but I never directly called you one. I was giving an implied response from the fans, since no one right now wants the shonen Kaneki that previous fake spoilers have pointed out.

What exactly are you trying to describe? Kaneki without torture and still becoming the ghoul he is now would have been a terrible move on Ishidas part. Since he's not a retard and actually gave a reason, he's not edgy or lacking in character growth, so everything he is now makes perfect sense.

>>134150487>terrorist>serial killer>literally canabilizing his own sisterKaneki let him off easy. Even if Ayato didn't have a ghoul's healing factor, breaking half of his bones was letting him off easy.

>>134152612He very flawed but very likeable.He always tries to do the right thing but isn't obsessive about it like a shounen MC, and isn't afraid of doing edgy things. The main reason white-haired Kaneki was the best and why he's so popular because of it is because he embraced the moral grey of the world. Too many MCs get caught up in pursuing moral absolutes, but Kaneki just didn't care about that at that point. He tried to do the right thing when he could, but wasn't afraid of getting his hands dirty and killing countless people to pursue his own personal goals.

>>134156239Strength build every time, every stat that isn't Strength is a dump stat. Is pizza cutter even good? I won't be able to play the DLC for a long while so I haven't looked too much into in fear of spoilers.

>>134159554These spoilers were posted previously, or at least I recognise parts of it.

瓜江がノロを両断し更に身体を細切れにする

地べたに倒れている不知瓜江が声をかけるが反応しない

瓜江が不知を抱き寄せる号泣している才子

ノロの仮面が取れる回想：ノロは店長がエトを託した人

Urie holds a dying Shirazu, he's crying. Attention shifts to the ceiling, spoilers are still incomplete and are being updated.IIRC this is from one of the spoilers where Eto offered Kaneki the seat of OEK.

>>134159700The death of Shirazu would bring forth some serious character developement for the quinx, but still I would feel sorry for him. I thought he will become a half ghoul and CCG want him to be executed. It's still a possibility, but the death flag is pretty much real after these spoilers.

>>134159996Nah, I think Kaneki will just force him to eat human flesh and heal up, leading the other Quinx to distance themselves from Shirazu as he becomes a half-ghoul.If he does die, then it could motive the Quinx to want to grow, more then already.

>>134160074>I think Kaneki will just force him to eat human flesh and heal up, leading the other Quinx to distance themselves from Shirazu as he becomes a half-ghoul.

That would be interesting, But we still don't know how Kaneki will interact with the quinx first. While it is true, that Haise and Kaneki were the same person, but Ken is so edged out now that he rather will ask about 1000-7 is what.

>>134160104>Just why not take Mutsuki instead FUCK.Exaclty. Shirazu has more potential than being a trigger for the quinx to change, while Mutsuki didn't work out well as a character at all.

>>134160171They don't. Sadly the majority of the Tokyo Ghoul fanbase is too feeble minded to even comprehend what's going on in the manga anymore. They "read" it, but don't understand anything about it or the characters.

>>134160171Ishida loves his parallels, what was the first step that moved Kaneki into the life of a ghoul? It was Touka force-feeding him human flesh, and making him realize that he wasn't fully a human any longer.I just think this Kaneki might do the same, but we can't know yet.

>>134160532There's still Urie. I mean, he'll be the one who walks away with the achievement of killing the SS~ rate even though Shirazu did most of the work and even died.He'll be promoted without fail. It's only right for him to begin taking care of Shirazu's sister after this.

M-maybe at the end of he arc there will be a heartwarming scene on the hospital where Shirazu wakes up after being heavily injured, Saiko and Mutsuki cries with joy and Urie will play it cool and just say "Good work rank 2 Shirazu" while nodding ;_;

>>134160782>I've watched half of a botched anime adaptation of the first part of a manga series>let's go in a thread made for discussing spoilers of the next chapter of the second part of said manga series>ask them why botched anime series is botched and why I don't understand things despite being about 1/4 through the current size of the story

>>134160971ctrl c+v into google translate and make sense of the mess it spits back at you like the rest of us.It's really far from proper english, but easy to make sense of if you're familiar with all of the relevant characters and theories.

>>134161099I can see that happening. I'm pretty sure she fed on some dead ghoul or humans back in the auction arc when she was injured by Kanae. I'm also willing to bet Ishida will pull another twist and reveal the one who actually murdered her family was herself.

>>134161183Fuck, Ishida and his stupid foreshadowing.>>134161190Ukaku don't have healing powers capable of mending injuries that severe. He'd have to be a kakuja to survive that and in the group the only one who may have a kakuja implanted is Saiko.

>>134161264>>134161278Don't tell me that you niggers have already forgotten the secondary traits of the respective kagune. Ukaku have speed, Rinkaku have regen, Bikkaku have strength and Koukaku have durability/hardness.

>>134161236Doesn't in order to be a Kakuja a ghoul has to consume another ghoul to have huge amounts of RC cell,Yamori is a cannibal and Arata only eats ghoul so they can be one, none of the Q's feeds on ghoul as far as we know.

By the way is it just me or does the concept of Kagune and RC cells is very similar to Branch of Sin in Deadman Wonderland, it even looks like solid blood in the anime.

>>134161329Ukaku is speed, Kokaku is defense, Rinkaku is attack, Bikaku is balanced.Regen can very from ghoul to ghoul with Rinkaku being better on average, but Shachi a bikaku could heal fast enough to make Kaneki stare in disbelief, even Noro was a bikaku and not a rinkaku.

>>134161385Aogiri acquired both Manager and Seidou from the Anteiku Raid 3 years ago. It's very likely that Seidou was operated upon and made into Seidowl around that time, meaning he's been a ghoul for about 3 years by the time he showed up for the Auction Raid, plenty of time to develop his own kakuja by devouring ghouls Aogiri doesn't need. Not to mention that his kakuja doesn't bear much resemblance to Yoshimura's at all, AND his kakuja is nowhere near finished developing. If the kakuhou implants carried the kakuja of the ghoul with them, then Seido would have the full-body Owl kakuja that Yoshimura had, not a shitty inconsistent mask and not much else.

>>134161443Putting aside the misinterpretation, we know that ukakus have shitty healing and being hurt by another kagune significantly slows down regen.Unless Shirazu starts gulping down human and ghoul meat, he's fucked.>>134161348I don't believe kakuja is something unique only the original user. We've seen Quinque made from kakuja that have retained the powers of the original. A kakuja is an evolved kakugou, It is possible that the traits of a kakuja may be unique only to the transformed kakugou.

>>134161501>Where are you going with this?That Shirazu has been noted to have high regeneration among the Quinx, and that just by being a Ukaku doesn't mean it's necessarily an unrepairable wound.He's probably still dead.

Now that we're talking about this, why exactly are bikaku > rinkaku and ukaku > bikaku? All the other pokemon type advantages make a good deal of sense. Given relatively similar levels of strength, ukaku can move quickly and deal lots of damage, but lack the true ohk punch to break through a koukaku's kagune. Rinkaku, on the other hand, are slower than Ukaku, but possess the punch to defeat koukaku. Bikaku have what? a tail? ???

>>134161463Noro's clearly a special case, and I don't think Shachi healed anything, it's just that Kaneki wasn't even damaging him seriously in the first place. Superficial wounds, that was it.

You are right though, as far as regeneration goes only Rinkaku are stated to have superb regen, while we can assume all other types have the same standard regen on average(although it varies ghoul-to-ghoul).

If Ukakus had a definitively shitty healing factor, then Kaneki would have accidentally killed Ayato when he broke half the bones in his body. But he didn't, and we've seen that Ayato was completely fine just weeks later.

Ayato having half of his bones broken is worse damage than what Shirazu's sustained, I'd say.

I still think he'll die because it would be an interesting and enjoyable twist, but if they find a way to get him regen'd back to full it won't be surprising.

>>134161537Where are you all getting the idea that Ukaku have shitty regen? lesser stamina != slower rate of healing. If anything, it means that they cannot fight for as long as other types can because they become fatigued quickly.

>>134161537>Putting aside the misinterpretation, we know that ukakus have shitty healing and being hurt by another kagune significantly slows down regen.It's being hurt by their antithesis that slows down regen. Ukaku is affected by koukaku, koukaku is affected by rinkaku, rinkaku is affected by bikaku, and bikaku is affected by ukaku. Not sure if other kagune types also hinder regeneration even if they're not the actual counter.

>>134161548Just curious, whem does it stated that Shirazu has high regen among the Quinx?

All Quinx except Saiko shown high regenerative abilities so far, Urie has stab wounds all over his body and can still fight minutes later, Mutsuki is stabbed through the stomach and turns out just fine.

>>134161553bikaku, users have been shown to be great at physical combat unless you lso train in martial arts like say kaneki or some other slect ghouls if you can't overwhelm them with speed you should be at a disadvantage.

but honestly all of this is very basic

kaneki is doing speed feats regularly, imitating other types of kagune and is a quinque master and competent martial artist

>>134161553>>134161553Bikaku have all good base stats. Decent speed, decent strength, decent durability. While Rinkaku are glass canons. A decent Bikaku will have a good chance dealing damage against a Decent Rinkaku.

>>134161553Just read the page that introduces the rock>paper>scissors concept. See here as well: >>134161463It's just the logical advantages they would have over one another, like Koukaku being good against Ukakus because the Koukaku's high defenses can shrug off the Ukaku's attacks, and easily win the long-battle against the stamina-weak Ukaku ghouls.Rinkaku excell at strong, critical strikes, so against the slower Koukaku ghouls they can find an opening, but the Bikaku ghouls are more well-rounded and won't provide such openings, which gives Bikakus the advantage against Rinkakus. And so forth.

>>134161641While rinkaku aren't as fast as ukaku, they're pretty quick. That combined with having the heaviest attacks means, normally, a koukaku simply can't tank a rinkaku.

This is just comparing their base characteristics. Ghouls can learn fighting styles to improve their combat ability, such as fencing in the case of the Tsukiyamas or martial arts like Shachi or Kaneki.

>>134161728It also helps that the kagune with an advantage also does damage that is extra-hard to regenerate from (e.g. Kaneki not regening without food after Amon took out his side because Amon used a koukaku/bikaku quinque).

>>134162078Yes. They knew of the kagune walls, which are essentially detached kagunes. And Chigyou, when he was handing Juuzou his quinque, even explained how the quinques can't freely shape themselves like kagunes for two reasons: it's impossible for them to do so and because it's more energy-efficient to restrict them to one shape.

Fuck this chapter for not delivering more Kaneki.Fuck you all for putting me through this torturous bullshit with the continued generals ever since Wednesday last week.And most of all, fuck Ishida for once again blueballing right when it counted the most.To hell with everything. I'm going to bed. Die in a fire.

shirazu is deadkuramoto, kuroiwa, urie, saiko, and mutsuki have survivedurie cuts down noro; last memory is of when eto was entrusted to noromasturi makes an entrance and is going to the rooftop to fight the one-eyed owlkaneki and eto fight and kaneki outwins eto (apparently eto was focusing too much on harassing kaneki verbally, which made her careless and less focused on the actual fight)she threw a big hit towards kaneki but misses, and becomes angrykaneki also gets mad, as he remembers the pastthe name “eto” contains a wish, that many will love and support her

>>134162742People's motivations and backgrounds are being revealed With the latest revelation of Eto's name one out of 3 things will occur.

She dies and either Kaneki or Matsuri gets the glory.

Kaneki decides defect from CCG and save her when he realizes that Matsuri intends to betray him too, together with Noro's death this leaves Eto emotionally vulnerable and she turns to Kaneki. <= Shipperfag's wet dream.

>>134162888She's not jobbing on purpose, she didn't concentrate on fighting and got her ass handed to her.

We're seeing the start of the redemption of Eto. It starts with Kaneki beating her, then he saves her, later on he'll put a bun in the oven and she'll mellow out for real. Redemption through motherhood, it fits her character and background.

>>134162986The spoilers say that she focused too much on taunting and Kaneki is slapping her around because of that.It's obvious as fuck that Matsuri intends to have Kaneki die in this operation, that leaves defecting from the CCG as his only option.

Did you all already forget that Matsuri is conspiring to have Kaneki killed? Washu fucking Matsuri, the grandson of the CCG head honcho.There is no place for Kaneki to return to in the CCG, an undercover arc won't happen.

>>134163269Ui was mentioned before the 'someone'.>>134163325Too simple, this is Ishida. If Matsuri means to kill Ui and then he says that there is another too then he's most likely refering to another CCG agent.

>>134163355>>134163304Holy fucking shit you are both absolutely fucking retarded.His goal has never been to destroy Aogiri, or to dismantle the CCG. He never gave a flying shit about the organizations themselves. He only wanted to protect people precious to him. Actively attacking either would only draw their ire, which is exactly what he and the other ghouls of Anteiku did not want.

Even this new, edgeneki wouldn't want that either. He just wants go out in style, and this would not help that at all either.

>>134163395How could you misunderstand what I'm saying now? I believe that they're the same thing. I'm just pointing out your misunderstanding with this guy's post>>134163253Why are you flipping out so hard on me? You're way too pissed off to have a conversation with anyone.

>>134163435>his primary goal is to defeat aogiriAnon, no. His primary goal was to keep his new friends safe. Sure, he could pluck anyone that posed an immediate danger, but he wasn't actively seeking to destroy Aogiri for the same reason he wasn't attacking investigators on sight - either action would provoke a response that could get someone close to him killed.

You're fucking retarded. It's been foreshadows for AGES that Kaneki is the real OEK. There's no real mention or anything pointing out that Eto is the OEK, and it's been hundreds of chapters since she was mentioned.

Kaneki is already almost as powerful as she is, the spoilers show him wrecking her shit. Soon he'll take control of Aogiri and destroy CCG.

>>134163463Nope he literally says that they (aogiri) are his enemy and even considers to torture and kill Nico just to get more infos about his target the supposed OEK, but Nico gives them to him either way

>>134163520Don't you mean how it's been foreshadowed for ages that Kaneki is a failed Arima clone and that Hide is a clown and how Hide planned for Kaneki to get lobotomized twice and that Hide hid human meat in the sewers in anticipation of that?

>>134163578My understanding is that Kaneki reacted strongly to Nico because he knew ghouls of Aogiri to be dangerous/aggressors, and he associated Nico with a very bad time. Is there a page somewhere where he says he wants to destroy the whole organization?