Nobody is going to drop $300 to play with the Ps eyetoy, with worse graphics. See what I did there. Cause I typed it on the internet it's FACT!

Seriously though I don't understand people who think the Move bundle is just a Wii with better Graphics. Its as if they forgot the thing still plays Ps3 games, is a bluray player, web browser, internet video conferencing machine, can save lives (folding home), free internet, etc.

Not to mention the Move is way more accurate than the Wii and has more core games working with it.

I agree with zootang though Europe is GT Land. And if there is any game that will make people by console just for that one game it's GT5.

I would drop $400 to play a wii with better graphics... if I didn't spend it on a Reach console. I think the move is better than the kinect but I know I won't play the ps3 very much given all the games the 360 is pumping out on my got to get list.

Dont worry the Xbox is only counted for how many they shipped out not for what they sold.It doesnt matter if it had a year or more start until MS releases the true numbers in how many they sold then I WILL KEEP ROLLING MY EYES AS USUAL.Until then I will go by what nintendo ans sony show in numbers because there legit numbers by sale not by how many consoles they shipped.Give me break MS you know your hurting up the ass for a while now come clean already.

It is true the 360 went out one year earlier than the ps3 but it is true and unfair that you don't count the 140million ps2 base in favor of ps3 and the blue ray lovers that buy the ps3 just to see movies......

Sorry, but i hate that arguement. Obviously, you're forgetting that not everyone has a brand loyalty, and that there were hundreds of reasons why the PS2 sold in those numbers and the PS3, so far, hasn't. Everything from the types of games (generally the biggest games were always PS2 exclusive, especially early on), the fact that alot of casual shovelware was on the PS2 (more so than any other console), that it never really had proper competition as the Xbox came about too late, that it was generally cheap, the slim proved to be stupidly popular (along with the price drops), that video games in general where becoming massively popular and beginning to rival movies in terms of revenue and popularity.....i could go on with reason after reason as to why the PS2 sold in the numbers it did, and just because it did, does not mean the PS3's success was going to be immediate.

Tons of factors influence it, and using the line 'ps2 sold loads therefore ps3 should have' is a cheap get out clause that simply doesn't work.

If anything, Sony should be applauded for how well they have done, given the compeition, the problems in the global market, the price points compared to the competition, the loss of key games, that the competition has always been cheaper and out earlier...again, tons of factors. I personally think Sony would be more than pleased with the PS3s current standing, and as long as they keep churning out quality games, then i couldn;t give one damn about whether the PS3 comes 1st, 2nd or 3rd.

Come on a lot of people still think that all ps2 games that they have will be compatible with ps3 and you say is not a fact..........what if i tell you that i had ps2 and when the next gen were announce i just said wao a ps3! because i was too satisfied with my ps2 so i was just looking forward for a successor. The only why i have a 360 is because i had in that moment a hd projector so i wanted HD content but after i have the 3 consoles i definitely give more credit to Microsoft because they are the new kids on the block and what a war they have made to sony that after 4 years it seems that sony wont get to it.

They aren't. Let's see. So they still have the PS3 under-tracked by 2 million consoles - still haven't fixed that "little" error. And 360 sales are still over tracked for some reason, with VGChartz claiming in the first six months of this year that the 360 sold over 30% more than Microsoft says they even shipped to retail (and not the first time they've been busted for over tracking the 360)

If you want real numbers, wait till each company releases their next quarterly update next month. VGChartz is so far off from the official data they're either incompetent or simply faking their data. Which is it?

Its so true they need to come clean and tell the truth and stop going by how many they shipped and go by how many they sold.Once they learn how to actually do tracking and inventory like a real company then you will be known as a good company.The other two companys have nothing to hide so why Is MS always hiding shit.Because they are hurting real bad.True sales gives a true idea of how well there doing not how many consoles are shipped out and still sitting on shelves or in storage areas.Its funny how you guys will defend a company that is crooked and has nothing to show for it but failure.They give you a console that is plagued with problems but yet you support them and you support numbers that arent even released.Good job on that one guys.

Its the same old crap.I cant figure out why people think that xbox is winning.Its not.The numbers are showing how many xbox consoles are shipped out not by how many they sold.The ps3 and nintendo products count how many they sold not for how many they shipped out or im sure that nintendo and ps3 would be on top period.Thats why I hate Vgchartz they need to be more accurate and get the true numbers of sale for MS but MS only releases what they shipped.Kind of funny how they hide there sales to me.We all know that its not doing that well.

What is it with you all, close sales are good it means each company is kept on there feet and will benefit each of us.

I made a comment yesterday about the sony fan boys making comments about MS promising the world with Kinect and not delivering.

My comments were I don't see how any PS fan boys can call MS after what Sony have done with the PS3. It has lost playing PS2 games USB ports installing a OS changing the HDD card reader and they now have a chargeable service for PSN. I got my PS3 and 360 on day one but my ps3 has lost so many things since the start it is just wrong the 360 has not lost anything since it came out.

Ive had privet message back regarding that comment and it the guy has not even played on a 360 his last comment was well the ps3 will play ps1 games and he heard the 360 plays all original xbox gamers really bad.

all the fan boys need to stop looking at sales go out and buy the consoles your slagging off and enjoy them because if your a gamer this is what it is about playing games any thing else added to the console is a bonus.

The games industry would be really bad if we only had one company making a console.

Its the same crap when sales are involved. If Microsoft were shipping tons like the fanboys seem to think then they wouldnt have shipped any out this month because all the shops are full to the brim with 360s from all the over shipped 360s from the month before...

I expect all the stores to have 7000 Xbox 360s out the back if we listen to the stupid Shipped Vs Sold argument....

.... I have one theory. The head of VGcharts is a bit of a prankster, he comes on N4G quite regularly and just for a laugh he Never accurately represents Sonys quarterly numbers just to see the chaos he causes every week. Hes not a MS fanboy or anything he just likes a good laugh now and again and likes stiring things up a little.

I think all 3 represent numbers the same way. That being the case, VGChartz is undertracking Sony. Why? It seems odd to me, that's all. And they STILL haven't updated it yet after the quarterly report.

As an "accurate" barometer that lights up fanboy fancies each month on here, well I think it would hold more weight if it were actually... you know, accurate?

Nintendo & Sony have one of their guys on the door of every shop. The chains, the indepentent stores, Asda, Tesco, Walmart... Yes I know, Im going to be told in this day and age they could all be connected up to Sony HQ and when the cash register sells a PS3 ANYWHERE Sony will know. All the stores love doing this for Sony and Nintendo.

Microsoft on the other hand just wait till a store puts in an order for some more 360s and then sends them out. EASY...

I went into a Game store today and they told me they are going to have to shut down as Microsoft keeps sending them 360s. They have 32 thousand in the one store and they just havent got the room for any more.

Below Real Killer. Yes just like most PS3 slims were a rebuy when they came out...

Can you prove to us that most Xbox360s are being bought by previous owners of the older Xbox360 models? Please provide proof...You know. Links from reputable sites stating backing your opinion. Stats from sources backing what you say....ANY PROOF AND NIT JUST YOUR RANTS THAT YOU DO EVERY DAY ON THIS SITE IN EVERY MS thread. Oh yes..thats right. You're real killer. You never provide proof...you just state how YOUR MATE AT Nvidia or Sony or MS told you so....It would be nice for once for you to actually provide proof to all your BS rants. You sound like Glenn Beck.

BTW. Does that same logic apply when Sony released the PS3 Slim...that most people tha bought it were previous PS3 owners? Lets see your hypocrisy Sarah Palin of N4G.COM