25H Rag - Holy or Disc?

So my guild's been chipping away at H Rag 25, gotten to P4 a few times on good attempts, and healing has been somewhat fine so far, I'm just wondering if I could be doing better as Disc, because I'm currently Holy. Other healers are disc/rdruid/rshaman most of the time, and I'm on raid healing.

I mean, Lightwell is somewhat useful seeing as my raid has figured out how to click it, but Barrier is even more useful. Pretty much negates seed explosion damage, and can be used during p3 transition as well to lessen damage from the Scions.

Originally Posted by Precursor

"Fall of therzane....." ....um what? if that woman fell , god help us it will be the second cataclysm

I switched to holy for only this fight and noticed a significant healing output increase and fewer mana issues. I haven't really analyzed it yet; it just seems easier to keep up. We haven't killed it yet (close!) but our setup is 1 holy priest 2 holy pallies 1 resto druid.

I switched to holy for only this fight and noticed a significant healing output increase and fewer mana issues. I haven't really analyzed it yet; it just seems easier to keep up. We haven't killed it yet (close!) but our setup is 1 holy priest 2 holy pallies 1 resto druid.

I'm pretty much in the same position, well different healing set up but still: go holy for this fight

We have killed it with HPal, DPriest, 2xRDruid and with HPal, DPriest, RSham, RDruid. I almost exclusive healed as Disipline when I was still pulling as a healer, it was exclusively as Discipline with HPal, HPriest, and Rdruid. Transition was slightly rougher, but that's what your HPriest and Rdruid are for. I fell like Discipline is much stronger in phase 4 since you'll likely have either a RDruid or another Priest you to cover the raid so you can support tank. I personally wouldn't choose anything but Discipline as long as I was healing along side a Holy Priest or Restoration Druid.

Holllyyyy! The key here is knowing where and when to place Lightwell and telling your raiders to use it. I usually drop LW at the melee after healing up the first trap explosion, so then it is still up for a few charges when we're stacking for seeds, then again on the 3rd seed stacking so it is up for trap explosion and sons phase, then again next to me in P3 and when we get to the 2nd frost patch in P4.

Renew is pretty amazing on this fight but you aren't going to get much out of it as disc. A lot of damage is random, sons, wrath, etc so shields can only go so far. Although I use PWS a fair amount in P4 for speed boost on kiters and sweepers as well as just absorbing damage from superheated.

On our kill my lightwell didn't even get used as much as it usually does (usually can pull 500k on a 11min+ attempt).

holllyyyy! The key here is knowing where and when to place lightwell and telling your raiders to use it. I usually drop lw at the melee after healing up the first trap explosion, so then it is still up for a few charges when we're stacking for seeds, then again on the 3rd seed stacking so it is up for trap explosion and sons phase, then again next to me in p3 and when we get to the 2nd frost patch in p4.

renew is pretty amazing on this fight but you aren't going to get much out of it as disc. A lot of damage is random, sons, wrath, etc so shields can only go so far. Although i use pws a fair amount in p4 for speed boost on kiters and sweepers as well as just absorbing damage from superheated.

On our kill my lightwell didn't even get used as much as it usually does (usually can pull 500k on a 11min+ attempt).

We have to go over Baleroc (shouldn't be too much of a problem I think) this week and then we'll be on Rag and I really wish I could try holy again. But I think I'll be lacking a lot of spirit. Disc and Holy have grown appart in term of gearing. I rolled on a lot of dps stuff and I'm afraid I can't switch back to holy now. I think if I reforge every single piece to spirit I could get to 2700, would that be enoug?

I've played disc and holy for our attempts and I actually pull higher numbers as holy.
Though the 'higher numbers' depends on your healing setup and the player of course.

Did the attempts you're using for comparison include longer phase 4 pulls? Holy absolutely matches the damage patterns of earlier phases better (specifically phase 1 and transitions), but by the time you're getting into serious phase 4 attempts, these are trivial. I am pretty confident that my overall throughput would be higher as Discipline on any extended phase 4 attempt. And, perhaps more relevant, I feel that as long as there is at least 1 RDruid or 1 HPriest in the raid, the healing I would do in phase 4 would be more important.

Did the attempts you're using for comparison include longer phase 4 pulls? Holy absolutely matches the damage patterns of earlier phases better (specifically phase 1 and transitions), but by the time you're getting into serious phase 4 attempts, these are trivial. I am pretty confident that my overall throughput would be higher as Discipline on any extended phase 4 attempt. And, perhaps more relevant, I feel that as long as there is at least 1 RDruid or 1 HPriest in the raid, the healing I would do in phase 4 would be more important.

They don't; you make a very good point. I can see how disc would be more important in phase 4.