How about 20 for the pair? wanna trade anything? I've got a few types of cryps and a ton of guppies. ;-) I'm setting up the 30 tall from John this week and thought a pair would fit OK without killing each other. Feisty little [censored][censored][censored][censored]s. SCAPE is down. My email is rickilee1@cox.net if you wanna get a message through. Have a great weekend. Rick