We never would have found him without interrogating detainees at Gitmo, a place meant to collect intel on where OBL was located.

The real success there came in 2007, when Obama was condemning keeping detainees and Gitmo and our interrogation techniques.

Of course, that was then, and this is now. Obama has reversed course on these things, now that he's president, and most Republicans do not try to undermine his correct policy today the way Obama tried to undermine Bush.

Bush is right to congratulate Obama for doing his most basic job. It's a stark difference from that 'air raiding villages' language.

Anyway, I am thankful for another Bush admin success, and I honestly think Obama has learned to appreciate this point of Gitmo in a protracted war on terror.

So, I guess we can assume this means that eventually, some future administration will finally bring charges against all decision-making members of the Bush and Obama administrations for their part in commission of war crimes.

So, I guess we can assume this means that eventually, some future administration will finally bring charges against all decision-making members of the Bush and Obama administrations for their part in commission of war crimes.

I suppose if some future administration is part of Al Quaeda then yes, I suppose your wish would come true.

Robert Cook: I guess we can assume this means that eventually, some future administration will finally bring charges against all decision-making members of the Bush and Obama administrations for their part in commission of war crimes.

"Those whose ideology runs counter to the evidence will refuse to admit any evidence is sufficient. "

That's an extreme generalization.

Sure, there's some truth to it, but at the very least, it is mandatory that Obama release all videos and photos that establish we really got OBL. I am sure he has such things, and I'm pretty sure we'll see them soon.

This isn't about politics. We need to be as convincing as possible to the world, especially the paranoid world in the middle east that things we could make anything with CGI. Honestly, it's a little weird that they didn't have this ready when he gave his speech. I figured that was why they waited so long to give it.

Um,no. People who fabricate "wars against terror" that are really "wars for oil" (and other American political objectives) get good men, women, children, and old people killed, combatants and noncombatants alike.

In just feel sorry fot the fish eating that corrupt body. Hope there are no belly aches. Gitmo detainee gave up pseudonym of trusted courier and in 2007 his real name. Intel followed him to USL's mansion in August. They figured it was too good for a courier.

In just feel sorry fot the fish eating that corrupt body. Hope there are no belly aches. Gitmo detainee gave up pseudonym of trusted courier and in 2007 his real name. Intel followed him to USL's mansion in August. They figured it was too good for a courier.

It will be their meme for a few days and then back to hating Obama 24/7 ie priorities lol."

read the washington post before lying, please, Shiloh.

this is a very good day for America. Obama has a legitimate success to his credit. But if you learn about how we found Osama Bin Laden, it's clear Bush also deserves credit for his Gitmo policies. That's just an established fact now.

Why play partisan games with national security, shiloh? Can't you just avoid that for once in your life? This isn't really about Bush or Obama. This is about the USA never stopping until we get Osama bin Laden. For their differences, both presidents clearly did their best to make this happen, and they both are to credit for it.

It really doesn't have to be a partisan hate fest. I saw one of the other kooky trolls here screaming 'fuck teabaggers' or something. Is that really the way to respond to this great news?

Can't you people just admit that Bush and Obama are imperfect, but did their best?

Oh dear. It looks like Fen isn't taking the news of Bin Laden's death very well."

That's a really nasty thing to say.

But I looked, and I don't see any justification for it. Claiming Fen is upset OBL died is really going too far. Why play partisan games?

His point is that we shouldn't witch hunt earnest efforts to protect America, from Obama or Bush. His other point is that Shiloh is weird and dishonest, which obviously is not important or breaking news or anything.

@Marshall, it is fair to consider Libya a war for oil. Qaddafi renounced his efforts to develop weapons of mass destruction shortly after the US took down Iraq, so there is nothing besides oil in Libya worth worrying about.

@Marshall, it is fair to consider Libya a war for oil. Qaddafi renounced his efforts to develop weapons of mass destruction shortly after the US took down Iraq, so there is nothing besides oil in Libya worth worrying about."

So when that's over and we don't take their oil either you'll agree this is stupid?

Libya isn't about oil. It's about not standing by and watching civilians be slaughtered. It may or may not be good policy, but it isn't about oil. A pro-oil policy would be supporting the regime.

Information from Guantanamo detainees made it possible to locate bin Laden.From the NYT article "Detective Work on Courier Led to Breakthrough on Bin Laden":

For nearly a decade, American military and intelligence forces had chased the specter of Bin Laden through Pakistan and Afghanistan, once coming agonizingly close and losing him in a pitched battle at Tora Bora, in the mountains of eastern Afghanistan. As Obama administration officials described it, the real breakthrough came when they finally figured out the name and location of Bin Laden’s most trusted courier, whom the Qaeda chief appeared to rely on to maintain contacts with the outside world.

Detainees at the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, had given the courier’s pseudonym to American interrogators and said that the man was a protégé of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the confessed mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks.

American intelligence officials said Sunday night that they finally learned the courier’s real name four years ago, but that it took another two years for them to learn the general region where he operated.

Still, it was not until August that they tracked him to the compound in Abbottabad, a medium-sized city about an hour’s drive north of Islamabad, the capital of Pakistan.

How was this information extracted from the detainees? Obama scores the success of killing bin Laden, but did that success depend on interrogation methods that he has long condemned?

@shiloh. Yep. I agree with GWB on all three of his quotes. The ones you posted and the one above. Bin Laden deserved to be tracked down and killed, but by 2002 he wasn't the catalyst for anything.

@Robert Cook. Extrapolating some kind of logic from your accusations, I suggest you add Clinton, GHWB, Reagan, Carter, Nixon, LBJ, Kennedy, Eisenhower, Truman, Roosevelt and the rest as targets of your star chamber. Some of them you'll have to try posthumously, of course.

So, I guess we can assume this means that eventually, some future administration will finally bring charges against all decision-making members of the Bush and Obama administrations for their part in commission of war crimes.

So apparently the "war for oil" idiots believe a meeting about what might happen in the future is more important that what actually transpired. So they believe we went to war for the oil, but inexplicably decided not to take it after we won.

Garden variety ass clown would-be Pol Pots like Robert Cook only seem interesting. Really, there's nothing under the veneer but vacuousness and stupidity. Thus, the answer to every question is trial, jail, and death to the enemies.

But, Robert, under what law? How will you prosecute if you don't have a law and maintain your ostensible respect for due process and that constitutional shit?

Yes. The trail had gone cold and it didn't appear as if Obama would be found anytime in the short term, if ever, and he never really cared anyway. The real objective--justifying war in Iraq--had been achieved.

"I don't think Libya is about oil, but how do you reconcile our involvement there but a dearth of action in Darfur, or Syria, or Iran?"

Darfur was before leftists spent a decade telling each other America was to blame whenever a million people die. We're in Libya specifically because of Darfur.

Syria and Iran are each in a position to ensure a war costs more to win than Libya was, plus neither country had even the level of organized and armed resistance the Libyans have. If the cost goes up enough a cost-benefit analysis gives you a different conclusion.