This episode was recorded live at Indy PopCon on the Podcast stage. We were joined by Jason Percy and Dave with World’s Collide where they discuss their new card game, challenges that an independent game designer encounter, and their plans for their game going forward.

This was a canned episode we’ve been sitting on for a bit. We’re taking our summer break, so you’re getting it now. However, our Patreon backers are getting a super awesome episode TODAY that the rest of you won’t be getting until next week.