Apparently you can remove channels via the guide, which has the little window, so there is an easier way to do this.

I fix the problem by simply subscribing to everything. Except the Spanish channels, but those are easy to pick out by name and are in one block.

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I am apparently not in the know on some of these guide tricks, I will have to play around a bit. We only subscribe to a mid-tier of Comcast programming and so there are many channels we don't get (and don't want) and it always seems like TiVo finds another one and starts recording blank suggestions from it.

1 plus for Charter, at least here, is they arrange all the channels for a given tier into a block with a gap before the next tier starts. So like 2-90 are Basic, 100-190 are Extended, 200-whatever are spanish, etc.... so it's pretty easy to deselect a block you don't subscribe to.

I don't want to criticize, but I have to say I honestly don't understand the uproar about the remaining SD menus. It's literally JUST the settings screens now that Wishlists are in HD.

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I don't have a Roamio, but I sure thought others confirmed previously that Find by Time/Find by Channel were still in SD.. Those are the ones that I see at least daily (on average). Yes, I have a bazillion season passes set up.. Yes, I still skim the guide to look for specials or missed shows.

1 plus for Charter, at least here, is they arrange all the channels for a given tier into a block with a gap before the next tier starts. So like 2-90 are Basic, 100-190 are Extended, 200-whatever are spanish, etc.... so it's pretty easy to deselect a block you don't subscribe to.

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How do you deselect a block? Or do you mean, it's easy to press the select key 100 times in a row, to deselect sequential channels?

How do you deselect a block? Or do you mean, it's easy to press the select key 100 times in a row, to deselect sequential channels?

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Yea, I believe this is what Dan is meaning. It is an advantage in creating a guide.

Also, as mentioned, one can add/remove from Favorites or Channel List, via the guide, by clicking on the channel number to get a popup window. Was this option available on the Premier boxes? If so, I hadn't known. It's made things a lot easier with the new box.

Also, does it matter much whether I create a Favorites guide or a My Channels guide? Meaning, would creating a Favorites guide influence my TiVo Suggestions? I mean, you know, should my TiVo Suggestions happen to decide to work today?

I don't want to criticize, but I have to say I honestly don't understand the uproar about the remaining SD menus. It's literally JUST the settings screens now that Wishlists are in HD. How often are you guys going into the settings screens after initial setup? About the only time I have to go in there is if there is a change to the channel lineup.

I don't know what the holdup is on TiVo's end in finishing the HDUI, but I'd hate them to make that a priority over new hardware and features! I want things like the HTML 5 app store, out-of-home streaming/downloading, and the new My Shows layout MUCH more than HD settings screens.

Though I do agree that the welcome screens and initial setup should be in HD just for first impressions.

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It's not about the SD menus themselves (although, they do look amazingly tacky) but it's more an indication of a systemic problem within the company itself. From a practical day-to-day purpose is it a "problem"? Not really. But it does make them seem incompetent, lazy, or uncaring about the users.

I mean, do these guys even use their own product? You have to think that someone in management one day would be looking at these terrible SD menus and wonder what the heck is going on within his own company and then make an effort to fix it. It's been literally years and years and it hasn't happened yet. Makes you wonder.

How do you deselect a block? Or do you mean, it's easy to press the select key 100 times in a row, to deselect sequential channels?

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Yeah. The way it auto jumps to the next channel makes it easy to deselect channels. I remember back in the old days before they added that auto jump feature. That was truly painful to deselect channels.

Yeah. The way it auto jumps to the next channel makes it easy to deselect channels. I remember back in the old days before they added that auto jump feature. That was truly painful to deselect channels.

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This has been a feature for years; The TiVoHD does it.
But it is faster now and a bit easier to use but I wish there was a live view in this mode. It is not designed for managing 1000 channels in the typical modern cable lineup.

This has been a feature for years; The TiVoHD does it.
But it is faster now and a bit easier to use but I wish there was a live view in this mode. It is not designed for managing 1000 channels in the typical modern cable lineup.

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I've been around since the early S1 days. The first software version I had was v1.3. I think this feature was added in the S2 days in v3 maybe.

Though I do agree that the welcome screens and initial setup should be in HD just for first impressions.

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I would think those two areas would be the only thing that would HAVE to remain in SD. If someone buys and hooks up a Premiere or Roamio to a SDTV, guidied setup would be illegible in HD on a SDTV. The unit doesn't know you have a HDTV until you tell it you do.

Same thing with the welcome screens. The unit doesn't know what type of TV it's hooked up to until your saved preferences are loaded. I'm not sure of the boot order, but preferences would be after more important items.

I bet Margaret cares about those SD menus. That woman seems to have a very good handle on what TiVo needs to do with their product based on what we've seen happen over the past 12 months.

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Yeah, I guess she needs more resources to wrap this up once and for all. As has been said, in day to day usage it's not a huge deal... but it's reflects poorly on TiVo's ability to execute (to those who notice and care). And I agree something isn't aliasing right or similar.

I would think those two areas would be the only thing that would HAVE to remain in SD. If someone buys and hooks up a Premiere or Roamio to a SDTV, guidied setup would be illegible in HD on a SDTV. The unit doesn't know you have a HDTV until you tell it you do. Same thing with the welcome screens. The unit doesn't know what type of TV it's hooked up to until your saved preferences are loaded. I'm not sure of the boot order, but preferences would be after more important items.

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Eh, TiVo should be able to sense connection type and branch or display different resolutions... like many, many other set-tops.

Yeah, I guess she needs more resources to wrap this up once and for all. As has been said, in day to day usage it's not a huge deal... but it's reflects poorly on TiVo's ability to execute (to those who notice and care). And I agree something isn't aliasing right or similar.

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Absolutely resources. New functionality is always king when prioritizing resources. No one buys Roamio just because all the sub-menus are HD nor will the not buy because of it either. What differentiates TiVo on the shelf does e.g. DIAL, OOH, mini DTA, 6-tuners, etc.

Considering all the new tech being pushed into Roamio, it very understandable why these sub-menus have not gotten attention. Not only that, the bug fixes and releases (mini w/ season pass mgmt) since the Roamio are also more important. While ugly, WRT the new HD theme, they're still functional. I'd suspect with how busy Tivo is after launching Roamio, it maybe a while for those sub-menus to get some love.

I would think those two areas would be the only thing that would HAVE to remain in SD. If someone buys and hooks up a Premiere or Roamio to a SDTV, guidied setup would be illegible in HD on a SDTV. The unit doesn't know you have a HDTV until you tell it you do.

Same thing with the welcome screens. The unit doesn't know what type of TV it's hooked up to until your saved preferences are loaded. I'm not sure of the boot order, but preferences would be after more important items.

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But as far as I know Roamio doesn't have an SDUI option... Will it even work on an SD television acceptably?

I think setup worry about a 4:3 television is moot on the Roamio line.