Assembly Member calls for Pembrokeshire council chief exec to be suspended

An Assembly Member has called for a suspension of chief council officers and an investigation into the salaries and pensions of council bosses, by all councillors in Pembrokeshire and Carmarthenshire.

Mid and West Wales AM Simon Thomas asked an emergency question in the Senedd about the salaries and pensions of senior council officers in light of the damning Wales Audit Office reports into Carmarthenshire and Pembrokeshire Council.

Plaid AM Simon Thomas said: “In light of the Wales Audit Office reports specifically on Carmarthenshire and Pembrokeshire and the unlawful payments made, chief officers should be suspended until a full council investigation takes place. I demanded the Local Government Minister supported this proposal and asked her to call for this action publicly.

“The governance and scrutiny of senior officers’ remuneration is central to securing public trust in their councils.

“Scrutiny committees and auditors must review these reports and ensure that the spirit as well as the letter of the law has been followed.

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“I called for the Welsh Government to apply the rules to those practices that have allowed creative accounting measures from some chief officers to fill their boots such as deferred pension arrangements, car leasing, and other perks.”

The Local Government Minister said she could not comment on the audit reports because the police are liaising with the CPS.

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Assembly Member calls for Pembrokeshire council chief exec to be suspended

Harrygrayballs says...5:29pm Wed 5 Feb 14

What a good start to proceedings......... ........ watch this space.I hope nobody"falls on their sword" over this!! I think we all want to see the end of this saga in public??

What a good start to proceedings.........
........
watch this space.I hope nobody"falls on their sword" over this!!
I think we all want to see the end of this saga in public??Harrygrayballs

What a good start to proceedings......... ........ watch this space.I hope nobody"falls on their sword" over this!! I think we all want to see the end of this saga in public??

Score: 9

hardcheese says...5:44pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Bryn Parry-Jones should not only be suspended but at the same time return all the MONEY he has taken.. this also applies to council bosses and all councillors..

Bryn Parry-Jones should not only be suspended but at the same time return all the MONEY he has taken.. this also applies to council bosses and all councillors..hardcheese

Bryn Parry-Jones should not only be suspended but at the same time return all the MONEY he has taken.. this also applies to council bosses and all councillors..

Score: 18

Welshman23 says...6:33pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Thomas and Crabb are so far out of touch when we told them ages ago there were problems at the Kremlin they didn't want to know, now it's a focus because the CPS are involved they see fit to comment. Both Crabb and Thomas should have been the leaders and asking the serious questions a long time ago.

Thomas and Crabb are so far out of touch when we told them ages ago there were problems at the Kremlin they didn't want to know, now it's a focus because the CPS are involved they see fit to comment. Both Crabb and Thomas should have been the leaders and asking the serious questions a long time ago.Welshman23

Thomas and Crabb are so far out of touch when we told them ages ago there were problems at the Kremlin they didn't want to know, now it's a focus because the CPS are involved they see fit to comment. Both Crabb and Thomas should have been the leaders and asking the serious questions a long time ago.

Score: 12

teifion says...9:22pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Mr Adams is too busy to reply to the WT, probably explaining to his wife/partner/friend no more South Africa holidays at Xmas, indeed several thousand quid of the family fortune will have to be handed back to us, the poor sods, Pembs. tax payers whose money has been paid out illegally - don't believe me look up several English cases including Dame Shirley Porter

Mr Adams is too busy to reply to the WT, probably explaining to his wife/partner/friend no more South Africa holidays at Xmas, indeed several thousand quid of the family fortune will have to be handed back to us, the poor sods, Pembs. tax payers whose money has been paid out illegally - don't believe me look up several English cases including Dame Shirley Porterteifion

Mr Adams is too busy to reply to the WT, probably explaining to his wife/partner/friend no more South Africa holidays at Xmas, indeed several thousand quid of the family fortune will have to be handed back to us, the poor sods, Pembs. tax payers whose money has been paid out illegally - don't believe me look up several English cases including Dame Shirley Porter

Score: 2

Gogledd says...10:25pm Wed 5 Feb 14

The Welsh Assembly should suspend the council while all this goes on and if necessary force re elections so we are in with a chance of getting rid of this inner circle of IPPG.

The Welsh Assembly should suspend the council while all this goes on and if necessary force re elections so we are in with a chance of getting rid of this inner circle of IPPG.Gogledd

The Welsh Assembly should suspend the council while all this goes on and if necessary force re elections so we are in with a chance of getting rid of this inner circle of IPPG.

Score: 12

KeanJo says...2:09am Thu 6 Feb 14

So the LG Minister has declined to comment because the Police are in discussions with the CPS. Nice little get out, tailor made for our Jamie..

So the LG Minister has declined to comment because the Police are in
discussions with the CPS. Nice little get out, tailor made for our Jamie..KeanJo

So the LG Minister has declined to comment because the Police are in discussions with the CPS. Nice little get out, tailor made for our Jamie..

Score: 7

PembrokeshireMan says...7:37am Thu 6 Feb 14

The longer this issue drags on the more it reminds me of the final throes of the Ceausescu dictatorship. www.youtube.com/watc h?v=MhTflHfPhgc Are there really people who believe that what has gone on within Pembrokeshire County Council is legally and morally right? Rather than voting a comment down why do they not join in the discourse and put their side of argument across? The only conclusion I can come to is they they they are being paid to down vote. By who I wonder...

The longer this issue drags on the more it reminds me of the final throes of the Ceausescu dictatorship.
www.youtube.com/watc
h?v=MhTflHfPhgc
Are there really people who believe that what has gone on within Pembrokeshire County Council is legally and morally right? Rather than voting a comment down why do they not join in the discourse and put their side of argument across? The only conclusion I can come to is they they they are being paid to down vote. By who I wonder...PembrokeshireMan

The longer this issue drags on the more it reminds me of the final throes of the Ceausescu dictatorship. www.youtube.com/watc h?v=MhTflHfPhgc Are there really people who believe that what has gone on within Pembrokeshire County Council is legally and morally right? Rather than voting a comment down why do they not join in the discourse and put their side of argument across? The only conclusion I can come to is they they they are being paid to down vote. By who I wonder...

Score: 6

Welshman23 says...7:57am Thu 6 Feb 14

Dear Independent Plus Member I write at this time of significant interest with regard to our current Senior Staff pension policy following the public interest report issued by the WAO. I have had the opportunity to speak at length with a number of you about some of the issues raised and I’m sure many of you will have had conversations with constituents who will be asking further questions. If any Group Member wishes to telephone/email/spea k to me on this matter (or any other) please as ever, don’t hesitate to get in touch I would also be interested to hear your views as to whether you wish to meet next week as a Group to discuss the matter Best regards Jamie Councillor Jamie Adams Leader Pembrokeshire County Council, County Hall, Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire SA61 1TP Telephone: 01437 776231 This is an e mail sent by Jamie Adams to the IPPG members. His time would be better spent sorting out the problems at the Kremlin. His comments shall we meet as a group further suggests this is a political party.

Dear Independent Plus Member
I write at this time of significant interest with regard to our current Senior Staff pension policy following the public interest report issued by the WAO. I have had the opportunity to speak at length with a number of you about some of the issues raised and I’m sure many of you will have had conversations with constituents who will be asking further questions. If any Group Member wishes to telephone/email/spea
k to me on this matter (or any other) please as ever, don’t hesitate to get in touch
I would also be interested to hear your views as to whether you wish to meet next week as a Group to discuss the matter
Best regards
Jamie
Councillor Jamie Adams
Leader
Pembrokeshire County Council, County Hall, Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire SA61 1TP
Telephone: 01437 776231
This is an e mail sent by Jamie Adams to the IPPG members. His time would be better spent sorting out the problems at the Kremlin. His comments shall we meet as a group further suggests this is a political party.Welshman23

Dear Independent Plus Member I write at this time of significant interest with regard to our current Senior Staff pension policy following the public interest report issued by the WAO. I have had the opportunity to speak at length with a number of you about some of the issues raised and I’m sure many of you will have had conversations with constituents who will be asking further questions. If any Group Member wishes to telephone/email/spea k to me on this matter (or any other) please as ever, don’t hesitate to get in touch I would also be interested to hear your views as to whether you wish to meet next week as a Group to discuss the matter Best regards Jamie Councillor Jamie Adams Leader Pembrokeshire County Council, County Hall, Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire SA61 1TP Telephone: 01437 776231 This is an e mail sent by Jamie Adams to the IPPG members. His time would be better spent sorting out the problems at the Kremlin. His comments shall we meet as a group further suggests this is a political party.

Score: 5

teifion says...9:34am Thu 6 Feb 14

KeanJo wrote…

So the LG Minister has declined to comment because the Police are in discussions with the CPS. Nice little get out, tailor made for our Jamie..

If a complaint is made about anybody - a co-worker in industry or a copper in public life they are suspended whilst investigations are being made - It's not an admission or assumption of guilt or innocence (possibly it's just to stop them carrying on the behaviour or to hide any proof of guilt) - so why not councils?

[quote][p][bold]KeanJo[/bold] wrote:
So the LG Minister has declined to comment because the Police are in
discussions with the CPS. Nice little get out, tailor made for our Jamie..[/p][/quote]If a complaint is made about anybody - a co-worker in industry or a copper in public life they are suspended whilst investigations are being made - It's not an admission or assumption of guilt or innocence (possibly it's just to stop them carrying on the behaviour or to hide any proof of guilt) - so why not councils?teifion

KeanJo wrote…

So the LG Minister has declined to comment because the Police are in discussions with the CPS. Nice little get out, tailor made for our Jamie..

If a complaint is made about anybody - a co-worker in industry or a copper in public life they are suspended whilst investigations are being made - It's not an admission or assumption of guilt or innocence (possibly it's just to stop them carrying on the behaviour or to hide any proof of guilt) - so why not councils?

Score: 12

seaveiw says...8:33pm Mon 17 Feb 14

I agree in the NHS in which I work, suspension is carried out whilst a full investigation takes place. I am sure the workers at PCC have no respect for the man

I agree in the NHS in which I work, suspension is carried out whilst a full investigation takes place. I am sure the workers at PCC have no respect for the manseaveiw

I agree in the NHS in which I work, suspension is carried out whilst a full investigation takes place. I am sure the workers at PCC have no respect for the man

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