Yes, I know it's listed on the Federal website. You can even put it in a "comparison box" and compare its attributes to Federal's other LE loads! But the main difference with LE132-1B is FEDERAL DOES NOT SELL IT AND THEY DO SELL THE OTHERS.

Why don't I contact them and ask them why this load is not available? Good question. Here's the answer.

I believe Federal started the rumor that this load has been released solely to generate email and telephone calls to gauge (pun intended) consumer interest.

I'm sure Federal is monitoring the emails and phone calls they get on this and will one day make a decision as to whether or not to make any to sell. If they get enough people expressing interest, they might actually make some.

I refuse to participate in their clandestine consumer research. it's a misleading, crappy way to do business.

I just wish the idiots that see the stuff on the Federal website would stop saying, "See? They have it. It's for sale."

It ain't for sale. Anywhere. No how. No way. They ain't selling it folks.

Yes, I know it's listed on the Federal website. You can even put it in a "comparison box" and compare its attributes to Federal's other LE loads! But the main difference with LE132-1B is FEDERAL DOES NOT SELL IT AND THEY DO SELL THE OTHERS.

Why don't I contact them and ask them why this load is not available? Good question. Here's the answer.

I believe Federal started the rumor that this load has been released solely to generate email and telephone calls to gauge (pun intended) consumer interest.

I'm sure Federal is monitoring the emails and phone calls they get on this and will one day make a decision as to whether or not to make any to sell. If they get enough people expressing interest, they might actually make some.

I refuse to participate in their clandestine consumer research. it's a misleading, crappy way to do business.

I just wish the idiots that see the stuff on the Federal website would stop saying, "See? They have it. It's for sale."

It ain't for sale. Anywhere. No how. No way. They ain't selling it folks.

The sources I saw said it was scheduled for a January release. Given normal new product startup delays and the time it takes to fill the supply chain, I'm not surprised that it's not out yet.

And why so angry?

Ah, another guy with "sources!" Are the sources "inside sources?" How did you get your info? Did you read it on the Internet? If so, it MUST be true.

i mean is this info just regular background stuff from unnamed sources or is it real deep background stuff where someone might get hurt if they disclose the source(s)?

What a freakin' joke. If you swallow much more of the BS Federal is dishing out to consumers you're very likely to get dysentery.

So the LE132-1B isn't out there because of startup delays, filling the supply chain.... . Anything else? I'm sure your sources could provide you with more crap if you need it.

Does Federal pay you professional apologists to take up their cause? You must be getting some free ammo (a type they actually manufacture and sell) to spread their BS.

Look pal, they feature LE132-1B on their website along with other ammo they sell. But they don't have it to sell. it's not being manufactured and they are misleading the public.

I'm telling you, putting it up on the website as if it really exists is a marketing ploy to gauge interest. That's all it is. Your "sources," IF they exist, are BSing you.

And as far as, "why so angry?"

Well, i never finished finished my court ordered Anger Management course. I punched the instructor in the face and was banned from the class.

Oh well.

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Here is additional information for you to rant about: "sources" tell me that LE132 1B is actually in production and is working its way through the distribution channels.

In addition, there have actually been reports of people having tested LE132 1B. You may want to read this thread, from another forum, which describes the results of one such test: http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=69992 I am now done feeding the trolls.

Here is additional information for you to rant about: "sources" tell me that LE132 1B is actually in production and is working its way through the distribution channels.

In addition, there have actually been reports of people having tested LE132 1B. You may want to read this thread, from another forum, which describes the results of one such test: http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=69992 I am now done feeding the trolls.

Face it, you have been duped. You have been misled by Federal and like so many other hapless suckers you believe everything you have been told by them and their Internet shiils.

Did someone test LE132 1B as you say they did? I suppose it's possible. But the fact remains, dear boy, they feature it on their website as if it's currently for sale. AND IT'S NOT.

Why don't you cut all the mysterious "my sources" crap and simply tell us who your "source" is? I will venture a guess as to why you can't. You have painted yourself into a corner by repeating a bunch of crap you've read on the Internet and repeating it here. You have no "source," pal, but you can't admit it. I understand.

How's this? I think you're a liar. I think your "source" does not exist. Again, tell us who your "source" is. And if you can't name your "source," tell us why you can't.

You believe everything you read on the Internet? God help you.

I choose to believe this guy, whose comment was also found in another forum:*****************************************22 January 2012 01:35 #39 zero7one View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage

Staff Join Date:Mar 2009Location:NWPosts:673Downloads:5Uploads:7 Originally Posted by neo9710 There has been some talk about a new Federal Shotgun cartridge. Doc Roberts was involved with it and gave it a thumbs up. I think someone mentioned that it was going to be released at SHOT...

" Based on IWBA data, Don Hacklander from San Diego Police Supply and I have been discussing the potential of a properly designed #1 buckshot LE load for many years--with Don's help and the efforts of some folks at ATK, this has now finally been brought to fruition!

We shot the new Federal #1 buckshot, 15 pellet, 1100 fps "Flight Control" load (LE132-1B) yesterday out of a generic 18" 870P, including patterning from 5-35 yards, as well as a bare gel shot at 7 yards. In bare gel, all 15 of the 30 caliber plated pellets penetrated in the 14-18 inch range.

This new Federal LE132-1B #1 buckshot load offers IDEAL terminal performance for LE and self-defense use and is the best option for those who need to use shot shells for such purposes." - Doc

Talking to the ATK guys, there was not a new Federal LE shotgun round introduced this year at SHOT. ****************************************

I'm with mick53 on this one, this conspiracy MUST BE STOPPED ! Federal is working in conjunction with the alien invaders, they know this round is lethal to the Borgonians and might hamper their coming invasion of earth !

The Borgonians have secretly implanted their mind control devices inside the brains of the Federal executives !IT'S TIME FOR ACTION BEFORE WE ARE TAKEN OVER AND ENSLAVED !!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm with mick53 on this one, this conspiracy MUST BE STOPPED ! Federal is working in conjunction with the alien invaders, they know this round is lethal to the Borgonians and might hamper their coming invasion of earth !

The Borgonians have secretly implanted their mind control devices inside the brains of the Federal executives !IT'S TIME FOR ACTION BEFORE WE ARE TAKEN OVER AND ENSLAVED !!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Tin Foil Hat,

I noticed your a brand new member of the Forum. Just registered today in fact.

You wouldn't be "nyshooter" by any chance assuming a new identity because your embarrassed by being duped by Federal, right? Nahhh, couldn't be.

Funny a brand new guy's first post would set him down in the middle of something like this.