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Re: Do you feel better about the Pacers?

I don't feel any better, I knew how good the Pistons were. Their interior defense is by far the best in the NBA, their backcourt is the best in the NBA, they have the best coach in the NBA. They are the toughest team in the NBA mentally and physically. Their chemistry is perfect. They have the best starting 5 in the NBA

Re: Do you feel better about the Pacers?

I think we are so close to a championship. I think we are just a small piece away, and yes it does make me feel better seeing them beat teams like this when we played them so tough.

To be honest I think the missing piece might be Stephen Jackson, and this offseason has proven to me that we should not make any moves that change the starting lineup. (Maybe backup pointguard though.)

Re: Do you feel better about the Pacers?

I don't feel any better, I knew how good the Pistons were. Their interior defense is by far the best in the NBA, their backcourt is the best in the NBA, they have the best coach in the NBA. They are the toughest team in the NBA mentally and physically. Their chemistry is perfect. They have the best starting 5 in the NBA

Amen to that.

I agree with Indypacers67 too, I think that Jax could be the piece of the puzzle, he definately has heart and a will to win.

Life without water is tough, life without air is hard,life with one leg only is wobbly, Life without Reggie Miller, is impossible.

Re: Do you feel better about the Pacers?

I feel very good about our chances next year. SA is hardly a dynasty, we seem to have Miami's number, and Detroit should slip just enough w/o LB to allow us to get by them. Add an All-Star SF to the mix (Ronnie) and Jack back at his natural position, and I really like our chances.

Re: Do you feel better about the Pacers?

Without our second best player, we gave them a hell of a series, they were just too much in the end.

Wait, I thought JO played during the series.

But back to the question. No, in fact I feel a little worse because of this: The difference between the two teams is mostly mental. The Piston's are not that much different from the Pacers from a skill or physical standpoint, but I think they play a lot smarter, and I think they are mentally tougher.

That's discouraging to me.

Pacers best four players -->

JO -- Not mentally strong. Doesn't play smart. Doesn't understand the benefits of ball movement. Want's too badly to be "the man" instead of the Pacers being "the team".

Tinsley -- Not mentally strong. Pouts sometimes. Goes off on his own too much. For a player as skilled as he is at passing the ball, he doesn't set up his teammates very well.

Jackson -- I think he's mentally strong at times, but too erratic and he just loses it sometimes.

Artest -- Not much to be said. Mentally, well....he's a mental patient.

Re: Do you feel better about the Pacers?

In defense of our 4 best players. One thing I really like about all 4 is that they are extremely competitive. No one ever mentioned that. IMO they are as competitive as any group in the NBA. Why don't we ever mention that

Re: Do you feel better about the Pacers?

In defense of our 4 best players. One thing I really like about all 4 is that they are extremely competitive. No one ever mentioned that. IMO they are as competitive as any group in the NBA. Why don't we ever mention that

Because sometimes they are too competitive. I love their aggressiveness, but they do need to keep their mouths shut sometimes.

Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

Re: Do you feel better about the Pacers?

In defense of our 4 best players. One thing I really like about all 4 is that they are extremely competitive. No one ever mentioned that. IMO they are as competitive as any group in the NBA. Why don't we ever mention that

I don't think anyone would question that.

However, are they SELFLESS? I don't think so.

I do believe the Pacers show a certain degree of synergy - the whole is better than the mere sum of the parts.

Otherwise, how could we play even with the Spurs and the Pistons?

But I also believe that our primary players can tend to go their individual ways much too often in critical game situations.

We need a couple of things to assure that we will get over the hurdle, more emphasis on the team, and perhaps an upgrade at center to a player that has many of Jeff's and Dale's skills, as well as the ability to hit an open 10-12 foot shot.

Re: Do you feel better about the Pacers?

In defense of our 4 best players. One thing I really like about all 4 is that they are extremely competitive. No one ever mentioned that. IMO they are as competitive as any group in the NBA. Why don't we ever mention that

Each of these four may be competitive all right, but they've also got a tendency to believe "I can win this game for my team all by myself". Its not 'competitiveness' you see as much as it is individual ego/ pride. And that's fine when its held in-check by a proper team structure.

But as we proved over-and-over last season, it really doesn't work like that.

I'd rather have better balance between "competitiveness" and "willing to check individual egos and agendas at the door" than all of these super-competitive guys that break plays, toot thier own horns, and get easily distracted by officials, opponents, or according to Kegboy watching the Pacemates during timeouts.

You know which two teams should've run the "One Goal" slogans this season? I'll give you a hint, they're still playing. And they're playing Game #7 for a championship tonight.

Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

Re: Do you feel better about the Pacers?

I do believe the Pacers show a certain degree of synergy - the whole is better than the mere sum of the parts.

Otherwise, how could we play even with the Spurs and the Pistons?

But I also believe that our primary players can tend to go their individual ways much too often in critical game situations.

We need a couple of things to assure that we will get over the hurdle, more emphasis on the team, and perhaps an upgrade at center to a player that has many of Jeff's and Dale's skills, as well as the ability to hit an open 10-12 foot shot.

I think all 4 really, really want to win. Maybe they just don't know how to win yet. Hopefully they are learning from the Pistons.

It is selfish to think that the best way for my team to win is when I try to score with two defenders on me. I don't think that is selfish it might be dumb, but not selfish.

I don't think for one minute Ron Artest is selfish at all. When he takes a bad shot it is not because he wants to be on Sportscenter or show off for the ladys, he takes bad shots for other reasons. He is very confident and thinks he can score at will. And he also gets too caught up in the action. Jax is the same way

Re: Do you feel better about the Pacers?

Each of these four may be competitive all right, but they've also got a tendency to believe "I can win this game for my team all by myself". Its not 'competitiveness' you see as much as it is individual ego/ pride. And that's fine when its held in-check by a proper team structure.

But as we proved over-and-over last season, it really doesn't work like that.

I'd rather have better balance between "competitiveness" and "willing to check individual egos and agendas at the door" than all of these super-competitive guys that break plays, toot thier own horns, and get easily distracted by officials, opponents, or according to Kegboy watching the Pacemates during timeouts.

You know which two teams should've run the "One Goal" slogans this season? I'll give you a hint, they're still playing. And they're playing Game #7 for a championship tonight.

The funny thing is the spurs did run the same "One Goal" slogan. You saw it in their pre-game intros.

Re: Do you feel better about the Pacers?

The funny thing is the spurs did run the same "One Goal" slogan. You saw it in their pre-game intros.

I've been locked in an office for the past week and a half. I've only seen four minutes of basketball since Game #1. So unfortunately, I haven't even seen their pre-game intros.

Maybe tonight, but unlikely...

Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

Re: Do you feel better about the Pacers?

I know, but tell that to the damn judge who set the absurdly tight hearing date for this case...

For all I know, I may still have to be in an airplane tonight for depositions tomorrow.

Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

Re: Do you feel better about the Pacers?

Yeah, and so do Managing Directors when they get appointed "expert witness" and then make me manage the case.

EDIT - Whooops. I should've put this in my "Official b!+c# about work thread." Sorry.

Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you