The Rabbit we all once knew and loved is no more. That’s the conclusion I’ve drawn after listening to everything Eminem’sThe Marshall Mathers LP 2 has to offer, ending with “Love Game” featuring Kendrick Lamar. Don’t confuse my words with hate; they aren’t.

Em’s just lost connection to all the traits that once made him Em. The Slim Shadyness that made people wince when he described murking Kim and other graphic acts of violence. The battle rap spirit in his rhymes that generated “oh shit” responses and hitting rewind. At this point, everything’s been “ewww, shit.” Sometimes, a song makes it to listenable, but none warrants repeat plays. I play it, I listen and almost immediately after it ends the mind wonders where the aforementioned characteristics drifted off to.

The struggle begins as soon as the out of place production begins on “Love Game” and continues through Em’s verse and the putrid chorus. K.Dot does his best to resurrect the song – even calling up Sherane – to make it listenable, but that’s just it. He can’t. Just like Rihanna couldn’t on “The Monster” and probably like we’ll find out with any other big name features on MMLP2. The co-stars can’t do enough to carry the show when the leading character can’t shoulder his share of the load.

This saddens me.. Like, to the core. Can we all agree that Rick Rubin does not have the magic touch and is overated. I wonder if anyone in Ems camp has told him they these songs are wack. Or is he surrounded by yes men.

@troiboi……… WHAT THE HELL U TALKIN BOUT WILLIS?????? rick ruben only becuase he has been called apon by 3 of the greatest that are obviuosly falling……………dosnt mean its his fault. u would prob b the same guy that yelled at the gas station attendent for there not being any gas….HAHAHAHAHA.

THE INDUSTRY DOSNT WORK LIKE THAT. clearly these 3 men, kanye, jay & em.. have in their own ways been having writing block or something similar. RICK RUBEN IS BEING PAID!!!!!!!!! remember he dosnt have a lable anymore where he is also doing full artist developement!!!???? he gets a cal, gets a check and moves on. for his great albums he did more than that no matter early on or recent

I’m not going to talk about the Rubin thing the 100% agree with the yes men stuff. Somebody in that camp should have tapped Em on the shoulder the second he even considered picking this shitshow of a beat to rap on. And again when he decided to keep it. And again when he decided this is the song to put his Kendrick feature on.

I totally agree on Yes men being the problem. And how ironic too, he complained about being surrounded by them when he was on drugs, and now that it seems his whole album is being cattle prodded by Jimmy Iovine nobody has the nerve to tell him this shit is garbage! Troi you have no clue how much this saddens me too. Like this was a guy who once upon a time could do no wrong musically, now look at we’re getting from him. Sad day for me!

Isnt the album executive produced by Rubin? Why are people acting like Rubin is a god or some shit. I’m not a music nerd but HGMC and Yeezus were all boo boo and he had a hand in those. So forgive my musical ignorance.

Rubin produces for a lot of other different genres of music. For instance, he has produced a couple of the Avett Brothers albums who are widely considered the best folk band in the world. Dude is incredible. If you’re gonna blame someone for not liking em anymore blame em or yourself.

Geez. Some of y’all need to get Rubins nuts out ya mouths. He has helped make countless of classics in all typesof other genres as well but im simply stating that he might not have been the right person for making Ems album. I can only imagine what type of album Eminem coulda made with someone else in the helm. Yall acting like all an artist needed to do is smoke a bowl with the shoeless hippie and they’ll magically make good music.

Son got a point on the basis that Rubins hip hop production has never left the 80’s, his blending of rock and hip hop Is so outdated and sounds like jaajagajaga like this or 99 probs whereas Just blaze has found the sweet spot of blending the 2 genres with shits like PSA and You don’t know

El is currently my favorite artist outright but he’s not on Em’s caliber of lyrical craziness. But does he make far better music right now? Hell Yes, he’s surpassed Em in terms of my fandom. Him and Killer Mike have aged gracefully in terms of music compared to their mainstream contemporaries. Ye’s album was “enh”, Jay’s was an exercise in bloviated marketing and self importance, and Em’s dropping a certified Dud that may still go platinum. But as an Em fan I hope it flops terribly, just so he gets the message that this shit isn’t worthy!

I was thinkin bout this a while back. Idk bout the best but the most successful white rapper next to Eminem has been overlooked because he doesn’t make Hip-Hop music but he’s still a rapper. Mike Shinoda of Linkin Park has the most records sold of any white rapper besides Em, just something to think about.

Em handled the lyrics. Dre handled the beats. That, or some aspect of that is what worked best. Em can still rhyme his azz off, but somebody in the camp must’ve forgotten that people actually want to dance, or at least bop their heads to a “rap song”.
This sounded like some Fat Boys/Chubby Checker abomination with better rhymes.

Not looking good, i was looking forward to Em ending on a good note, but im starting to compare wayne to Em again, em lost it i’d much rather hear a new wayne verse then a new Em song and thats saying something. i like wayne but hes not as good as he used to be but Em fell waaaay off.

A couple highlights on the album but just like this track.. the shit was a let down. The outro evil twin track jam tho…Once again, a sequel can’t fuck with the original. Shoulda just called it Re-Recovery and collected his plat plaque.

Hmmm I thoroughly enjoyed this song. I guess y’all are expecting some drug induced lyrics to still come out of em and it ain’t gonna happen. What do you want? Tom ford, molly, beamer, Benz, Bentley raps? Kendrick did his thing ems first verse was funny and his second verse was awesome. I can see why people don’t like it but y’all talking like you expected some 2000 em to come around.

People like myself and many others are mad at Em coz it seems his ear for beats and hooks is totally broken. Someone mentioned El-P and I think he’s a great example of someone with a great ear. He can rap circles, and just creates these amazing orchestral beats and atmospheres on his songs. now you have em here spitting but its on such a terrible beat. All this lyricism is tainted by such a terrible song structure! Its all for naught!

I don’t know, it wasn’t bad. At least not worth declaring Shady dead over. Yeah its not like his early stuff, which is why i think its a problem for a lot of people. The lack of Nostalgia in these new songs is what really does it for some people. If you don’t go expecting the old M in his new tracks, you won’t have an immediate hatred for it. How can you declare an artist gone over a track you couldn’t have listened to more that twice. I for one think this wasn’t half bad. In fact I enjoyed it the most out of his recent songs.

I listened to the leak and didn’t like the album at all. I don’t want to hear top pop 40 when I listen to a hip hop album. I want to hear actual HIP HOP. Isn’t it sad when one of the so called best rappers in the game couldn’t make a better album than Miley Cyrus? Further more, why should he be making an album and the first thing that pops into my mind to compare it to is….Miley Cyrus…..lol

I refuse to accept this! ha. Classic Eminem it may not be but not many are fucking with his rhyme schemes or flows, which as he is rich as fuck, you would imagine he creates purely for the love of the art form at this point.

Right? Had some good chances 2nd half. Piss poor the first half. Fabianski is SUSPECT. and idk what happened to jenkinson but he slowed up the offense way too much virtually everytime he touched the ball. If Wenger wanted to win shoulda started the big boys from the start

Don’t know what TGSTEL means, I feel like i should. But Bendter is just all sorts of slow; in the mind, his legs, his feet everything to be playing for Arsenal. They play to quick for him. Good goal scorer for Denmark though. lol

Hahaha, he’s wearing the shirt and he’s trying, plus he hasn’t been a complete c*nt publicly in quite a while, I think he needs to be supported.
Jenkinson looks like he hasn’t played a minute of competitive football this season, and I agree, injuries got Wenger stuck half way between resting for the next few fixtures and trying to win… Which resulted in the Jekyll and Hyde performance last night. Couple more youngsters I’d have like to see on the pitch though.

Sucks to lose but I honestly don’t care about the league cup while were still top of the league. Which we still should be after the weekend @Pounds_Sterling, will be a great game though.

I’m downloading MMLP2 as we speak. I recognized the sample that De La Soul used on “My Brother’s A Basehead” off ”De La Soul Is Dead” which probably stopped me from turning it completely off. Rhyming has never been Em’s problem. Dude is nice. He put in lyrical work on “Recovery” too, in my opinion. My problem with “Recovery” and everything song I’ve heard thus far from MMLP2 is the production. I just don’t get it. Then again, somebody up top blamed Interscope and I do believe that is where some of the fault lies. This has been a sad year for major label hip-hop…at least to me.

If Eminem had looked up Prince Paul on his roladex and brain stormed some ideas over at Paul’s Coffee Shop then maybe just maybe he could have pulled it off. Thus far this project is mad suspect like OJ Simpson.

Where’s TRA at? lol I think the industry is playing up & using this dude to flip a new trend in radio or some subliminal shit with this new Em sound as I haven’t seen much interviews or Em or anyone speaking out about this ‘new found sound’. Could be wrong but it’s like I’ve just watched Mike Tyson playing Lawn Bowls with this new stuff, it just doesn’t fit.

I loved it. I loved every second of it. Yes, I can understand that there would be “Subjective Criticism” for tracks like these and especially for the track “Stronger Than I was”. I have matured as a Em fan an can now accept hearing negative things about his music without acting like a Fan boy. Plus, Different options keeps the Stanery and cognitive dissonance tamed.

But…

I just loved this album. As I said it sounds like Eminem on a Eminem album. After the dramatic shifts in Flows, Wordplay, Concepts, and ideas from “Encore” to “Recovery” I had forgotten what a “Eminem” album sounds like. I can now see how crazy he can shift his style from one album to the next. Its like hearing different artists each go around when going through the discovery.

But anyway yes it is a great album and I will no doubt purchase the Physical copy from Bet Buy or Amazon. The singles do this work no justice. If anything, its part of the story that needs the album in order to make sense. Great job Em. Right now based off “Single Digit Impressions:

And I fuck with “Recovery” heavy but, Em sounded… Human on that album if it makes any sense. I like when he sounds like a person not from this world. Corny yes but, its hard to explain. And hen ranking the albums “Recovery” has no choice but to be placed near the bottom. Especially if I were to add “Infinite”

This list is bad. I dont know why Slim Shady LP is so damn underrated, especially placed in its historic context, it makes a good ass argument for one of the most influential rap albums of all time & it’s also pretty much perfect from My Name Is opener to Still Don’t Give A Fuck closer.

….The conversation lingered in my head for hours
Took a shower kinda sour cause my favorite group ain’t comin with it
But I’m witcha you cause you probably goin through it anyway
But anyhow when in doubt went on out and bought it
Cause I thought it would be jammin but examine all the flawsky-wawsky
Awfully, it’s sad and it’s costly, but that’s all she wrote
And I hope I never have to float in that boat
Up shit creek it’s weak is the last quote
That I want to hear when I’m goin down when all’s said and done
And we got a new joe in town
When the record player get to skippin and slowin down
All ya’ll can say is them niggas earned that crown but until then…

I don’t think the song is bad. I just think that it’s unexpected. I’m pretty sure everybody seen the tracklist to MMLP2 and thought…”Oh Shit…Em and Kendrick. That has to be the best song on the album. Who is gonna outshine who?”

I mean, yeah, people are excited for a new Eminem album. Nothing wrong with that.

After listening to it a few times, it’s clear Em still has as much lyrical juice as ever. The beat selection bring the entire album crashing down, though. Five or six different beats behind the same exact lyrics and this thing is a heavyweight.

To steal one of my favorite quotes. “Mr. Mathers, what you’ve just sung is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent garble were you even close to anything that could be considered a dope song. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

This song is straight doo doo. BUT he has a few decent MMLP type songs on the album (Bad Guy, Brainless, Evil Twin) and obviously Rap God. The rest…ehhhhh. I didnt listen to the bonus songs though.
I think one of the biggest problems with the album is the production. Most of the beats are just garbage. Sounds more like a Jimmy album than an Em album.

I’ve never heard an Eminem album start to finish so I can’t really pass comment on this whole shabang but this joint is very gimmicky like early 90s era type vibe.

As a matter of fact I’ve never heard an Outkast or Redman album start to finish. I’ve just finally got around to listening to Wyclef’s The Carnival album today and it’s a solid album!

The moral of this post is that maybe 10-15 years down the line people might understand the genius behind Eminem’s latest long player effort. If I’m still alive way down the line I might unearth this set and give it a goosey gander.

i thought this shit was dope. throwback sample (which i know have kinda died out these days but i prefer it to programmed beats, like the rap god beat), kendrick killed the verse and had me laughin on the hook, the concept was to my liking, and em was also funny on it and killed the second verse. the story in the last verse reminds me of some of the “as the world turns” verses so i liked it…

You guys do understand that this is only the worst song on the album other than Stronger Than I Was. I honestly don’t hate this song either. The album is as solid as The Eminem Show and you guys are all being overdramatic. He’s maturing as an artist and understands his place in the music industry and I have no idea what he was doing with this song but just about every other song on this album is solid. Stop it.