Ties in the workplace seem to be a thing of the past – relegated to a few bespoke (no pun intended) professions and institutions. Oddly enough, ties in casual situations appear to be coming in style… that is, if you lean toward the hipster end of the spectrum.

For those who’ve struggled to tie a tie, your chances just got harder. Researchers (and yes, someone did research on this) figured out there are 177,147 different ways to tie a tie. It’s more math of combinations than anything in particular.

Of course, the glass half-full person would see their “failed” attempt to tie a knot as just one of the 177,147 possible outcomes and it’s done.