AMD To Show Radeon RX VEGA at Computex - But no availability

In a post on reddit AMDs Raja Koduri made an interesting comment, well multiple interesting comments really. AMD will show Radeon RX VEGA for consumers at Computex, but there will be no availability in that time frame. BTW we also have a photo of Vega in the AMD LAB

Meaning we're going to see a soft-launch. I'll just leave you guys with the post he made:

We’ll be showing Radeon RX Vega off at Computex, but it won't be on store shelves that week. We know how eager you are to get your hands on Radeon RX Vega, and we’re working extremely hard to bring you a graphics card that you’ll be incredibly proud to own. Developing products with billions of transistors and forward-thinking architecture is extremely difficult -- but extremely rewarding -- work. And some of Vega’s features, like our High Bandwidth Cache Controller, HBM2, Rapid-Packed Math, or the new geometry pipeline, have the potential to really break new ground and fundamentally improve game development. These aren’t things that can be mastered overnight. It takes time for developers to adapt and adopt new techniques that make your gaming experience better than ever. We believe those experiences are worth waiting for and shouldn’t be rushed out the door. We’re working as hard as we can to bring you Radeon RX Vega.

On HBM2, we’re effectively putting a technology that’s been limited to super expensive, out-of-reach GPUs into a consumer product. Right now only insanely priced graphics cards from our competitors that aren’t within reach of any gamer or consumer make use of it. We want to bring all of that goodness to you. And that’s not easy! It’s not like you can run down to the corner store to get HBM2. The good news is that unlike HBM1, HBM2 is offered from multiple memory vendors – including Samsung and Hynix – and production is ramping to meet the level of demand that we believe Radeon Vega products will see in the market.

In further posts he also mentions that the board could be fitted with a 6-pin and 8-pin power connector opposed to two 8-pins:

I grabbed an engineering board from the lab on the way to the Sunnyvale auditorium, and that boards works well with a 6 and an 8 pin. We decided to put two 8 pin connectors in the production boards to give our Frontier users extra headroom.

Raja also confirmed 8GB memory for the Rx Vega and stated the Water-cooled edition will be clocked faster:

There will be a slight difference in clock speeds, and therefore performance as well.

Also he made a comment about the FE edition versus the Rx Vega:

Consumer RX will be much better optimized for all the top gaming titles and flavors of RX Vega will actually be faster than Frontier version!

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#5433467 Posted on: 05/19/2017 09:11 AM
I guess they are too polite to say directly that Hynix is too incompetent to get the HBM2 production working properly.

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#5433492 Posted on: 05/19/2017 11:29 AM
Looks more like they're trying to close the deal on that IKEA endorsement...

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#5433506 Posted on: 05/19/2017 12:04 PM

Developing products with billions of transistors and forward-thinking architecture is extremely difficult -- but extremely rewarding -- work. And some of Vega’s features, like our High Bandwidth Cache Controller, HBM2, Rapid-Packed Math, or the new geometry pipeline, have the potential to really break new ground and fundamentally improve game development. These aren’t things that can be mastered overnight. It takes time for developers to adapt and adopt new techniques that make your gaming experience better than ever. We believe those experiences are worth waiting for and shouldn’t be rushed out the door. We’re working as hard as we can to bring you Radeon RX Vega.

Other than terms like "extremely difficult - but "extremely rewarding" to justify the delay and worth the wait message, have a feeling this will be another 'product for the future'. The game devs may need time to showcase Vegas fuller potential. So if initial benches are not too exciting, it will then be another AMD product you ought to buy for the future.

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#5433517 Posted on: 05/19/2017 12:31 PM
just seems to me HBM2 is being more than a little awkward to produce and what little of it is available is being put on high margin low volume GFx cards of both NVidia and AMD for the professional segment.

After all trying to launch before supplies are sorted out properly to the gaming market will just get them a tonne of flack due to lack of availability and damage their public perception Far more than launching later.

I'm not honestly in much of a rush due to currently playing older games mostly, but still excited for the launch when it finally arrives.
At least it is starting to sound like it really can be faster than the 1080Ti, looking forward to that upgrade after so long. Fury is not so great with more demanding/newer titles at 4k....

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#5433524 Posted on: 05/19/2017 01:16 PM

Other than terms like "extremely difficult - but "extremely rewarding" to justify the delay and worth the wait message, have a feeling this will be another 'product for the future'. The game devs may need time to showcase Vegas fuller potential. So if initial benches are not too exciting, it will then be another AMD product you ought to buy for the future.

I agree, this look bad even at hype stage.A déjà vu.

If AMD advantage in DX12 is not enough to make their GPUs more appealing for customers: Real game performance AT LAUNCH,not marketing BS, slideshows or next years performance against TODAY competition...

It takes time for developers to adapt and adopt new techniques that make your gaming experience better than ever.

...Devs are not going to make a special ACTIVE effort to support the GPUs with less market share if that means GPUs with more market share lost optimization.

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#5433562 Posted on: 05/19/2017 02:54 PM...Devs are not going to make a special ACTIVE effort to support the GPUs with less market share if that means GPUs with more market share lost optimization.

It shouldn't be much longer. I reckon the ball will start rolling when MS Scorpio drops. Devs just need a more platforms to develop games with DX12 or a variant of it.

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#5433574 Posted on: 05/19/2017 03:22 PM
It's already rolling. Vega will be even more efficient with triangle throughput and graphics bottleneck, so things will be much better from the get go. I still bet it will take them a bit of time to tweak this (as it should be expected actually).

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#5433579 Posted on: 05/19/2017 03:25 PM

It's already rolling. Vega will be even more efficient with triangle throughput and graphics bottleneck, so things will be much better from the get go. I still bet it will take them a bit of time to tweak this (as it should be expected actually).

".....have the potential to really break new ground and fundamentally improve game development."

This doesn't sound like the ball is rolling yet

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#5433590 Posted on: 05/19/2017 04:00 PM
All of a sudden it feels like Rx Vega is standing on our doorsteps and about to knock the door off.

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#5433596 Posted on: 05/19/2017 04:15 PM
I can wait and it'll be worth it. My 2 Furys can rip through every game that's been made so far at 4k 60+fps so there's no rush for me.

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#5433600 Posted on: 05/19/2017 04:20 PM

I can wait and it'll be worth it. My 2 Furys can rip through every game that's been made so far at 4k 60+fps.

Your two fury's can hit 4K 60FPS in every single game that's been made? You must have magical furies sent by some alien civilization.

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#5433602 Posted on: 05/19/2017 04:24 PM
Other than terms like "extremely difficult - but "extremely rewarding" to justify the delay and worth the wait message, have a feeling this will be another 'product for the future'. The game devs may need time to showcase Vegas fuller potential. So if initial benches are not too exciting, it will then be another AMD product you ought to buy for the future.
I know that I don't reflect most people here, and I understand them, but if I get a Vega part and I manage to keep it five years like I've kept my Tahiti I will be extremely happy.

".....have the potential to really break new ground and fundamentally improve game development."

This doesn't sound like the ball is rolling yet The first mainstream console to have parts of Vega will appear around November. This is essentially the same time windows as Tahiti had with the PS4.

I guess they are too polite to say directly that Hynix is too incompetent to get the HBM2 production working properly.

I think that Vega has sufficient compute performance to be released in profi market.

But driver for Gaming still needs work to use properly all new features, and AMD does not want to have another Borked Gaming launch.
GCN 1.0 got like 15% performance boost within 1 month.
GCN 1.1 got 10% within 1 month.
GCN 1.2 got even 30% in some games, and it tool like 3 months.
As for Polaris initial hickup, I really do not know, but pattern of new stuff and need to do driver work...