Payap University: Class Notes

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I am currently attending Payap University's Intensive Thai Study program in Chiang Mai. I thought it would be a nice idea to give a little back to the helpful members of Thai Visa, and decided to start this class notes thread. These are daily class notes of discussions and vocabulary that we talk about in the classroom.

The program here at Payap consists of 2, 1.5 hr. classes each morning. There is Listening and Speaking from 8:30-10:00 and Reading and Writing from 10:30-12:00. For the L/S section I'll list vocabulary that comes up in discussion. And for R/W I'll try to give examples & usages for any grammatical type vocabulary that comes along.

I am by no means an expert in the language, and even farther from a good typist. I will make daily mistakes I'm sure, but part of this Blog is to practice typing vocabulary to familiarize myself with the Thai keyboard. Hopefully this will inspire some daily contributions of examples and conversation about different usages, and concepts. One great bonus about TV is a diverse member group, which allows us to compare ideas across cultures and languages.

I hope this is helpful to some and brings along some knowledge and insight to the forum. Please feel free to add daily, especially if you are studying Thai elsewhere in Thailand!!

Lithobid

P.S. If you do type in Thai on this page, I ask that you please try to use a large font size 4 or greater for those of us learning to read the Thai language. Thank you.

You should change the spelling of country, which you wrote as ประทเศ instead of ประเทศ

Thank you Riga!

Just a short note to anyone reading, if you find spelling errors I do appreciate corrections, I think about how many people read this post and did NOT see these mistakes. Please feel free to post corrections to any Class Notes postings.

Class notes

Term 1

Speaking & Listening

26.6.08

Directions

ตะวันเหนือ (North)

ตะวันตกเฉียงเหนือ ตะวันออกเฉียงเหนือ

(West / North) (East / North)

ตะวันตก (West) ตะวันออก (East)

ตะวันตกเฉียงใต้ ตะวันออกเฉียงใต้

(West / South) (East / South)

ตะวันใต้ (South)

Remember Thai expresses the adjective after the noun, so it comes out backwards for us Westerners.

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A special thanks to Meadish for pinning this thread, and editing. I try to keep it as neat as possible but that's the side effect of learning. http://ic.payap.ac.th/certificate/thai/about.php This is the URL for Payap's current schedule, tuition fees, and contact #'s. I started this thread in part to peak interest, because I think they have a great program worth every penny. I know when I was searching for a school, it was hard to come by good 1st hand info, so please if you have any questions about the University or the Thai Studies program, don't hesitate to ask.

Cheers Lithobid

Giving Directions (Part

I've separated the directions into two sections, part A for giving directions to a place, and part B is more for describing where a place is, in relation.

Notice how กับ (with) is used in most of these words.

In class I noted the unusual dictionary definition for เยื้องกับ, I think a better translation for common usage would be "up, down the street from". David I'm sure you have advise here?

เยื้องกับ – Diagonally Opposite

ระหว่าง – Between

ติดกับ – Next to

ตรงข้ามกับ – Across from

ใก้ลกับ – Close to

อยู่บนถนน "___" – On "____" road.

อยู่ในซอย – On the street (Notice how we use บน for road, and ใน for ซอย)

ทางไป – On the way to

อยู่บนถนนทางไป – On the street on the way to…(this is good to use if you don't know the name of the street, but you do know where it goes ex.)

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A special thanks to Meadish for pinning this thread, and editing. I try to keep it as neat as possible but that's the side effect of learning. http://ic.payap.ac.th/certificate/thai/about.php This is the URL for Payap's current schedule, tuition fees, and contact #'s. I started this thread in part to peak interest, because I think they have a great program worth every penny. I know when I was searching for a school, it was hard to come by good 1st hand info, so please if you have any questions about the University or the Thai Studies program, don't hesitate to ask.

Cheers Lithobid

Giving Directions (Part

I've separated the directions into two sections, part A for giving directions to a place, and part B is more for describing where a place is, in relation.

Notice how กับ (with) is used in most of these words.

In class I noted the unusual dictionary definition for เยื้องกับ, I think a better translation for common usage would be "up, down the street from". David I'm sure you have advise here?

เยื้องกับ – Diagonally Opposite

ระหว่าง – Between

ติดกับ – Next to

ตรงข้ามกับ – Across from

ใก้ลกับ – Close to

อยู่บนถนน "___" – On "____" road.

อยู่ในซอย – On the street (Notice how we use บน for road, and ใน for ซอย)

ทางไป – On the way to

อยู่บนถนนทางไป – On the street on the way to…(this is good to use if you don't know the name of the street, but you do know where it goes ex.)

(The City Hospital is next to the University, and down the street from the City hall, on Madison Ave. and 3rd Street.)

Now take a look at the map, and try describing a location to your friend!

I've been in the habit of putting a อยู่ before all the location placement words in your sentences. Do they teach it without the อยู่?

e.g. (โรงพยาบาล

อยู่ติดกับมหาวิทยาลัยเมืองและเยื้องกับศาลากลางบนถนน Writing it out again I see that I would actually use the อยู่ before the first one but not repeat it for a second phrase in the same sentence. What do they say about the use of อยู่ in sentences like that?

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I've been in the habit of putting a อยู่ before all the location placement words in your sentences. Do they teach it without the อยู่?

e.g. (โรงพยาบาล

อยู่ติดกับมหาวิทยาลัยเมืองและเยื้องกับศาลากลางบนถนน Writing it out again I see that I would actually use the อยู่ before the first one but not repeat it for a second phrase in the same sentence. What do they say about the use of อยู่ in sentences like that?

Well, you're in the right habit I talked with my instructors, and they said either way is correct, though using อยู่ is better. I've heard them leave it out in conversation if they are speaking quickly, although speech tends to be much less formal, so many Thai words spoken one way, and written another.

Lithobid

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A quick note on question words, and replies, looking at this sheet really helped solidify how and when to use the question words. Soometimes I find when learning (even a simple topic) I tend to get quite confused and quick review sheets like these really help.

Question Word------How to Answer

อะไร------------------------Noun

กี่ + บาท(Clf.) -------------Number + บาท(Clf.)

เท่าไร-----------------------""

กี + Clf.--------------------Number + Clf.

เป็นยังไง--------------------Adjective

ใคร-------------------------Person

ที่ไหน-----------------------Place

Verb + ไหม----------------Verb or (ไม่ + Verb)

ใช่ไหม----------------------ใช่ or ไม่ใช่

Question Word + บ้าง-----Multiple answers using conjunction กับ

Noun (หรือ) Noun----------Chose one

Again, I know these are basic, though language is progressive, and review never hurts. Especially seeing something presented in a different way.

Enjoy

Lithobid

Edited July 9, 2008 by Lithobid

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Learned some great things today, including what and what not to say adressing family members! In class we drew out family trees, although, having much trouble already copying and pasting Word text into TV, I thought I'd just run some lists for this.

Starting with Generations – รุ่น

Thai separate the family into two categories by father and mother. In English we'd say mom's mom, and dad's mom, but Thais have unique words for each person (for the most part).

ปู่- Grandfather, father of father

ย่า – Grandmother, mother of father

ตา – Grandfather, father of Mother

ยาย – Grandmother, Mother of mother

The grandfather or grandmother of either of the parents is "ทวด".

This first generation is known as (รุ่นปู่ย่าตายาย) they are addressed individually by these names because of their singularity in this position, similar to English, Grandma, Grandpa Ect.

The next step is the papa's and the mama's (note: all of these are from your prospective)

This generation is known as (รู่นพ่อแม่ลูงป้าน้าอา)

พ่อ - Father

แม่ - Mother

ลูง - Brother of Father (older)

ป้า - Sister of Father (older)

อา - Sister / Brother (Father's side younger)

น้า – Sister / Brother (Mother's side –younger)

Some extra words for you.

หย่า – taken to mean divorce or separated, you can also use แยก

เลี้ยง – use in front of แม่ or พ่อ for step-mother/father

ลูกกำพร้า – orphan

(พ่อ/แม่)บุญธรรม – one who has adopted a child out of Poomsan Becker บุญ means good deeds or merit, ธรรม – as Buddhist Teaching, or Dharma.

David, I'd love to know what is a layman's take on this word บุญธรรม to me there is something there that western culture doesn't address in the meaning.

That's part of the family for now,

Cheers

Lithobid

Edited July 18, 2008 by meadish_sweetballSlight correction (thanks to David).

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