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Re: Jammin's Mancave

haha i was reading beelzebub once, it was a bit interesting before it totally turned into a gag manga, and with lame gag If you ask me for real funny stuff i'll mention stuff like GTO, zippy ziggy. Beelzebub gag = the baby need diaper. Also it looked like the author of beelzebub didn't know what to do anymore, he made a couple of chapters there were doing nothing except playing a video game ( dropped around there, couldn't take it anymore).
I would put beelzebub in the same category of: reborn, fairy tail, d gray man, soul eater, medaka box. some popular shounen-ish stuff with lame gag that i don't understand why they're popular.

Re: Jammin's Mancave

Originally Posted by scav

haha i was reading beelzebub once, it was a bit interesting before it totally turned into a gag manga, and with lame gag If you ask me for real funny stuff i'll mention stuff like GTO, zippy ziggy. Beelzebub gag = the baby need diaper. Also it looked like the author of beelzebub didn't know what to do anymore, he made a couple of chapters there were doing nothing except playing a video game ( dropped around there, couldn't take it anymore).
I would put beelzebub in the same category of: reborn, fairy tail, d gray man, soul eater, medaka box. some popular shounen-ish stuff with lame gag that i don't understand why they're popular.

No accounting for taste, I suppose.

I rate it much much higher than that. It's a comedy but I consider the dialogue and pacing to be well above the standard. I would even say it that I consider it to be kind of brilliant in how it plays with the expectations of Shounen readers and occasionally lampooning bad habits of the genre. One example that comes to mind is when Oga and Furuich fight and Tamura did one of those "It all started back when..." flashbacks that Kishimoto does so very often and then....

Re: Jammin's Mancave

It's not hate M3J it's love. Furuichi endures torment more entertainingly than almost any other character I can think of. So I want to give him the opportunity to shine.

I categorically refuse to even think about it.

Wanting to see him tortured is love? ._.

Why? It's not really wrong, since Hilda as far as I know isn't related to Beel at all. Unless she sucks at knowing the line between maternalism and loverism.

Originally Posted by Teeba

That is not hate, my friend, that is a pure, untainted desire to see Furuichi have something good happen to him for once. Him ending up having a harem that even Oga could not attain would just be awesome and amazing. As a Furuichi fangirl, I pretty much support anything involving someone thinking he's a super cool awesome guy. I think Jammin's idea for a Furuichi love rhododendron is epic, though a bit unlikely.

Torment is good for him? But, I wouldn't mind seeing a Sango-Miroku like relationship between the two.

It could be possible though. That'd be a big irony or whatever - a known predator that repels a lot of girls suddenly has his own harem. Probably suits the humor of the manga.

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As for Hilda-Beel, I have heard this from tons of other people as well. I think it makes sense considering that its the royal family we're talking about, and royal families always have shady family relations. But considering the angle Tamura has framed Hilda's character development in, I think her feelings are just maternal.

So Jammin, outside of FuruNene, what else do you see stored for Furuichi?

What maternal feelings kisses a baby on the lips? Or fangirls over a baby like a lover, in a way? D:

Re: Jammin's Mancave

Hey Jammin~ Glad to see you made a thread! I like the title. Feels very manly in here.

I find it really interesting that pairing talk is your favorite type of discussion.... in a good way!

Haha, There is a certain irony with that isn't there .

I've always found it to be an area of conversation where everybody has a slightly different take (even if they agree) and everybody is passionate about it. Not to mention it's just...fun. I used to practically live in the Naruto shipping threads...before the dark times.

Originally Posted by igotthegoods

Why so much shounen, though? Do you ever read any shoujo/josei?

Shounen kinda gets my allegiance by default.

With Seinen I've always found that a lot of series waste much their potential trying to "act mature". Using unnecessarily amounts sexuality and gore to try a prove how mature they are(Sun Ken Rock, Gantz, and Blade of the Immortal). It's great when a series manages to balance it in a way I find "tasteful" but in my experience that's pretty rare. Berserk and Ubel Blatt are the only series that jump to mind offhand.

With Shoujo/Josei it's usually a matter of art style more than anything else. Shoujo/Josei art tends to make all their characters look distinctly feminine; with huge eyes. Which just doesn't suit my tastes. I have read a little though. Usagi Drop was amazing.

Though the ending...

To be honest the ending worked for me but I kinda feel like it shouldn't; if that makes sense.

Originally Posted by igotthegoods

And I happen to agree about Furuichi's torture and misfortune being highly entertaining. It's the bread and butter of his character. How can one not wish for more?

I know, right? Him not suffering would be like a fish out of water.

Last edited by Jammin; August 15, 2013 at 11:04 PM.
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Re: Jammin's Mancave

A man cave, sometimes a mantuary[1] or manspace,[2] is a male sanctuary,[3] such as a specially equipped garage,[4] spare bedroom,[3] media room,[5] den,[6] or basement.[6][7] It is not a cave but rather a metaphor describing a room inside the house, such as the basement or garage or attic or office, or outside the house such as a wood shed or tool room, where "guys can do as they please" without fear of upsetting any female sensibility about house decor or design.[8] Paula Aymer of Tufts University calls it the "last bastion of masculinity".[8]

While a wife may have substantial authority over a whole house in terms of design and decoration, she generally has no say about what gets "mounted on the walls" of a man's personal space.[8] Since it may be accepted that a woman has input on the decoration of the rest of the house, a man cave or man space is in some sense a reaction to feminine domestic power.[8]

Re: Jammin's Mancave

Originally Posted by Josef K.

What exactly is a mancave?

Simply put it's a comfortable place with everything you love in it. Where you can just sit back relax, watch sports, play video games, read books, or maybe just take a nap. Whatever tickles your fancy.

A man cave, sometimes a mantuary[1] or manspace,[2] is a male sanctuary,[3] such as a specially equipped garage,[4] spare bedroom,[3] media room,[5] den,[6] or basement.[6][7] It is not a cave but rather a metaphor describing a room inside the house, such as the basement or garage or attic or office, or outside the house such as a wood shed or tool room, where "guys can do as they please" without fear of upsetting any female sensibility about house decor or design.[8] Paula Aymer of Tufts University calls it the "last bastion of masculinity".[8]

While a wife may have substantial authority over a whole house in terms of design and decoration, she generally has no say about what gets "mounted on the walls" of a man's personal space.[8] Since it may be accepted that a woman has input on the decoration of the rest of the house, a man cave or man space is in some sense a reaction to feminine domestic power.[8]

I'm grateful to you for explaining it but...there is something just wrong about quoting Wikipedia to explain a Mancave.

Re: Jammin's Mancave

what did you study? I'd bet you have some graduate title in literature or something like that. Sometimes you use some technical concepts that makes me think you have it.

Haha. How very flattering. I actually have no education in writing. I was a political sciences major actually.

My only qualification for reviewing is that I love stories and have always paid attention to the way they were told then entering in many forum discussions about it. Then Phio_chan asked me to do weekly reviews for Noblesse and I thought "Why not?". I never planned to keep up reviewing for as long as a have but I'm a creature of habit.

Originally Posted by ukimix

You won the best reviewer award; what do you think of Ego's vision of an art reviewer/critic?

:-)

I think pointing out imperfections is always easier than creating something, even something imperfect.

That's something every critic should appreciate. but not something that should prevent honest and direct assessment of whatever they are rendering a judgement on. I always have tried to frame everything I write as an honest and detailed accounting of my experience with a story. In the hopes that, even at it's most critical, it will come across as more constructive feed back than dislike for a series or author.

The role of criticism in my eyes isn't to defend or attack something. It's just to explain. When something is done well I must talk about what I think was done well and how it was done. When something is done poorly I must talk about what I think was done poorly and where it went wrong.

Another point I don't quite agree with ego on is that I actually find negative criticism a lot less fun to write than the positive variety. It's part of why I'm not reviewing ToG at the moment.