You don't get that Plummer's still winning. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

plummer's not winning, he's doing everything he can to lose.

5-1, looks like he's winning to me. You don't mess with a good thing. You're not winning anything with a rookie QB. You'll probably go one and done if you do.

when you go to the playoffs every single year, it no longer becomes enough to just go. plummer can't win in the playoffs. if you watched last year, champ won that game. the defense won it. just like every game this year. i know you're a browns fan so you must have watched last week. your defense would've had 6 ints if they hadn't suddenly developed brick-hands. we would've lost had that happened. jake literally threw the ball directly to five seperate browns players and threw into quintuple (yes, quintuple) coverage on two other occasions. that is not a winning quarterback. that's a man lucky to be playing in denver where the defense is the only reason he's not 0-6. one would think that, since jake doesn't play defense, the defense would likely not play worse if cutler were the starter or if van pelt came back or if we traded for tom brady. the only difference would be that we would likely score more than 12 points per game.

so you're saying cutler would have brought them to the superbowl if he was the starter?

You don't get that Plummer's still winning. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

plummer's not winning, he's doing everything he can to lose.

5-1, looks like he's winning to me. You don't mess with a good thing. You're not winning anything with a rookie QB. You'll probably go one and done if you do.

when you go to the playoffs every single year, it no longer becomes enough to just go. plummer can't win in the playoffs. if you watched last year, champ won that game. the defense won it. just like every game this year. i know you're a browns fan so you must have watched last week. your defense would've had 6 ints if they hadn't suddenly developed brick-hands. we would've lost had that happened. jake literally threw the ball directly to five seperate browns players and threw into quintuple (yes, quintuple) coverage on two other occasions. that is not a winning quarterback. that's a man lucky to be playing in denver where the defense is the only reason he's not 0-6. one would think that, since jake doesn't play defense, the defense would likely not play worse if cutler were the starter or if van pelt came back or if we traded for tom brady. the only difference would be that we would likely score more than 12 points per game.

so you're saying cutler would have brought them to the superbowl if he was the starter?

i'm saying we certainly wouldn't have been any worse and we absolutely could've been much, much better.

I don't think most of you realize just how bad the Broncos offense has been. They have only scored 13 points per game. For some perspective, the Bears last year scored 16 ppg. Only the Raiders have a worse offense than the Broncos. And this has to mbe ostly on Plummer. They are running the ball effectively and Walker is playing like a top WR. Plummer is just making terrible decisions and is inaccurate. Jake is just not a pocket passer, and you can't roll out every single play. The Broncos offense needs to step it up if they want to win the Superbowl. They can't expect their defense to shut down the opponent every single game, especially not with Plummer turning the ball over. Plummer either needs to get his act together or Cutler needs to come in. I have no doubts that Cutler could do better than Plummer at this point as well as provide a spark for a struggling offense.

THat's very well possible. It's sad tho that our team has to lose a string of games for Shannahan to put in the better QB. A lot of people don't think that rookie QBs can succeed in their first year, but keep in mind that Big Ben was incredibly great his rookie yr due to a strong running game, WR corps, and defense (kinda like the current Broncos eh?)...

Furthermore, despite his amazing physical ability, it's been mentioned numerous times in the preseason, but Cutler's poise in the pocket is not like a rookie. It's amazing. Cutler on the field means we'll score at least 10 more pts per game than Plummer leading the offense.

THat's very well possible. It's sad tho that our team has to lose a string of games for Shannahan to put in the better QB. A lot of people don't think that rookie QBs can succeed in their first year, but keep in mind that Big Ben was incredibly great his rookie yr due to a strong running game, WR corps, and defense (kinda like the current Broncos eh?)...

Furthermore, despite his amazing physical ability, it's been mentioned numerous times in the preseason, but Cutler's poise in the pocket is not like a rookie. It's amazing. Cutler on the field means we'll score at least 10 more pts per game than Plummer leading the offense.

its not even that i think cutler is more talented...i just think he will actually throw good passes..as his arm is great...plumer not so much