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Apparently Adrian used to work for Haltech doing embedded design. And designed among other things the Interceptor Platinum for them, what the current PROcede is based on. He left to work for another non-automotive company and Haltech would bring him back here and there for updates as needed.

Shiv started buying from Haltech but needed more programming support than they could provide. So they put him in contact with Adrian. It got too expensive for Haltech so they let Shiv pay Adrian directly for support, and finally allowed Adrian to license use of the hardware he had designed working for them. As part of that license Haltech still builds the hardware for some set fee.

Adrian still works for another company and helps Shiv part time doing firmware updates.

For the long timers it's funny to hear the real story, as Shiv had outright denied working with Haltech around 4 years ago when switching from the XEde. Despite the obvious signs (like Haltech printed on the PROcede circuit board!)

Anyway Haltech offers a variety of newer interceptor type products and seems open to anyone in terms of volume licensing. Although Adrian is probably locked up exclusively with Shiv through some sort of consulting agreement. Not that we have any interest in that as we have the capability to design our own stuff but anyone with the money and interest can pursue it with Haltech. Some of their new stuff is pretty impressive!

no way, he'll just ignore it most likely,as thats what he does when he cant spin it to make him look like the good guy, or option B. randomly come in and say "oh i dont come here so i never saw it". which is BS because you know his minions have already called/texted to alert him to it..

no way, he'll just ignore it most likely,as thats what he does when he cant spin it to make him look like the good guy, or option B. randomly come in and say "oh i dont come here so i never saw it". which is BS because you know his minions have already called/texted to alert him to it..

Pretty sure the "haltech" logo on the V4 board confirms a lot of the speculation LOL

There is no Haltech logo on the v4 board. It is not a Haltech product. Do you need a statement from the owner of Haltech saying the same thing? Or does the fantasy of me being nothing more than a marketing device make you guys sleep better at night. If so, I wouldn't want to get in the way of your beauty sleep

Haltech clearly explained the relationship and history which I summarized -- funny there is still such denial by some.

Well what the hell, it's right there. Just because he got Haltech to take the logo off for the newer boards so he could avoid that direct reference does not mean Haltech does not have their hand in it as they have clearly in the past.

Early Rev.1 units had a Haltech logo on the PCB board because we based the early Procedes on a Haltech Interceptor, but running proprietary source code, firmware and software. This means that users could not convert one to the other in the field. The other option, at the time, was to sell resistors as tunes.

Since 2007, we have been developing the technology independently of Haltech. Technology which we own. As I'm sure Haltech will confirm if asked. These are the facts and I cannot change them. Try as you may.

The question was asked and answered by a Haltech executive at the show. They build the hardware and license it's use to Adrian who had designed it as a Haltech employee. Adrian then writes the firmware software for it when not working at his day job.

FWIW their newer stuff seems quite a bit more advanced. Makes sense given the vintage nature of the Interceptor that the Interceptor Platinum was based on.

but running proprietary source code, firmware and software. This means that users could not convert one to the other in the field.

Why not? I'm willing to bet if one had access to the software they could, as that is all that you were offering, software to interface with the BMW using Haltech hardware, right? You can just upload the new firmware, what is the big deal really?

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Since 2007, we have been developing the technology independently of Haltech. Technology which we own. As I'm sure Haltech will confirm if asked. These are the facts and I cannot change them. Try as you may.

I could care less if you use Haltech or not Shiv.

Does developing technology outside of Haltech mean that you have a former Haltech employee working directly with you? If so, the "technology" is based on Haltech and you are skirting the question by technically claiming you are working outside the Haltech framework with Adrian directly.

The question was asked and answered by a Haltech executive at the show. They build the hardware and license it's use to Adrian who had designed it as a Haltech employee. Adrian then writes the firmware software for it when not working at his day job.

FWIW their newer stuff seems quite a bit more advanced. Makes sense given the vintage nature of the Interceptor that the Interceptor Platinum was based on.

bzzt... wrong. I'll ask the president of Haltech to clarify things for you and for everyone else you purposely misled. Sticky could use the extra traffic. Back to work for me...