Q: Okay. I'm presenting on the ELMO -- let me see if I can focus
in on this. Can you read that? Probably not.

A: I can read it because I'm familiar with the document.

Q: Okay. Well, you indicate that you are familiar with the
document, sir; how are you familiar with the document?

A: I received these documents on the date that I arrived at the
Golden Era Productions and given a bunch of documents by Ken Hoden and
their internet expert, Ida Gavina, I believe his name was, presented me
a bunch of internet documents as I arrived there.

Q: Okay. And what was the nature of receiving these documents?

A: I received a call that they had somehow been made aware of
this internet site or news group -- or I'm not too familiar with the
exact terminology of the internet -- but that they felt that they were
being threatened by some of the postings and some of the comments that
were on the internet. They called down to the station, and I was sent
out there to handle it.

Q: And when you arrived you spoke, you said you spoke with a
person by the name of Ken Hoden; who is he?

A: Ken Hoden, I believe he is the general manager of the -- maybe
the San Jacinto chapter, I suppose. I know he was a general manager, I
don't know of what. But he referred to himself as the "general manager."