Noise signifying nothing, way too early to talk about whether expansion is going to happen or not. Either way, B12 is set up fine. I still say FSU is a definite #11. Clemson talk is dying, GT is picking up, and Louisville is still trying to work their way in. ND just playing their game trying to angle themselves for the best deal possible, whatever it might be.

And good for them. All I'm saying is that ND is not the only factor in B12 expansion. Everyone is waiting for the financials to be hammered out with the new playoff system before making official moves, which means we probably won't see any real movement until this time next year.

So, ND can agree to whatever they want... for now. But, indications are, that if the projections are correct for FSU, they will be in the B12 soon, the money per year is too significant not to. If the SEC gets their way, they'll add a couple of ACC teams as well. Another travel partner comes with FSU, maybe the B!G makes a move in the area or two, and all of a sudden there's no real ACC to partner with in the Orange Bowl. ND withdraws due to a change in the contract conditions and then they reassess if the Independent route is what they really want to stroll.

Of course, that's all speculation, but it isn't beyond the realm of possibility, that's why I don't really care what ND does at this time. They want to project a position of strength, so they go ahead and make this deal. They really can't make any major moves until the NBC contract comes to term, anyway.

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I agree with PGM. I'll take it further though, college football is becoming more of a joke than ever. Drink beer, enjoy the fresh air but take it for what it is...a showcase of potential pro players...nothing about this "sport" is fair.

Holy crap. We agree on something I...have to agree with yours as well.

I agree with PGM. I'll take it further though, college football is becoming more of a joke than ever. Drink beer, enjoy the fresh air but take it for what it is...a showcase of potential pro players...nothing about this "sport" is fair.

I agree with PGM. I'll take it further though, college football is becoming more of a joke than ever. Drink beer, enjoy the fresh air but take it for what it is...a showcase of potential pro players...nothing about this "sport" is fair.

That's nothing new. It's been a showcase for the last 50 years. It makes a bajillion $'s for the power brokers in the universities and the NFL doesn't have to subsidize it. It's always been a perfect situation. For everybody but the players.

That's nothing new. It's been a showcase for the last 50 years. It makes a bajillion $'s for the power brokers in the universities and the NFL doesn't have to subsidize it. It's always been a perfect situation. For everybody but the players.

The players only get $100,000 worth of scholarships, the best coaching in the world, and a four-year audition for a job that pays millions of dollars per year.

You'd think teams would be jumping at the bit to join such a great conference.

They actually are, since you're not specifying which teams. Louisville desperately wants in. Of course, its a simple mind that assumes he thinks he knows what is going while making generalized and biased assumptions to attempt to denegrate the Big 12.

We're going to be making more per year than any team not in the PAC, B!G, or SEC, and in the same neighborhood as those conferences. We have a partnership deal with the SEC, that will combine the two conferences that have made the BCS Championship game more than any other.

That kind of earnings potential will entice schools to want to join, but it doesn't mean we have to offer. We actually are in a position to be selective.

Now, go and have fun in your junior membership.

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They actually are, since you're not specifying which teams. Louisville desperately wants in. Of course, its a simple mind that assumes he thinks he knows what is going while making generalized and biased assumptions to attempt to denegrate the Big 12.

We're going to be making more per year than any team not in the PAC, B!G, or SEC, and in the same neighborhood as those conferences. We have a partnership deal with the SEC, that will combine the two conferences that have made the BCS Championship game more than any other.

That kind of earnings potential will entice schools to want to join, but it doesn't mean we have to offer. We actually are in a position to be selective.

Now, go and have fun in your junior membership.

Sounds like the Big 12 has no interest in anyone except Notre Dame. Landing a deal so valuable with only 10 teams was a bombshell. Especially given the fact that each team is free to earn whatever they like 3rd tier. No reason to add anyone unless it really boosts the earnings even more and at this point only ND and perhaps FSU do that.

It's weird though because apparently the deal the Big 12 signed with FOX and ESPN includes clauses that increase the payouts for ANY schools the Big 12 adds. Talk about a power position. Well done.

They actually are, since you're not specifying which teams. Louisville desperately wants in. Of course, its a simple mind that assumes he thinks he knows what is going while making generalized and biased assumptions to attempt to denegrate the Big 12.

We're going to be making more per year than any team not in the PAC, B!G, or SEC, and in the same neighborhood as those conferences. We have a partnership deal with the SEC, that will combine the two conferences that have made the BCS Championship game more than any other.

That kind of earnings potential will entice schools to want to join, but it doesn't mean we have to offer. We actually are in a position to be selective.

Now, go and have fun in your junior membership.

Gotta love those who talk as if they are the schools president LOL

Yeah that JR membership has landed them some of the top facilities in the nation, a top 25 recruiting class in football, more national exposure, and enough money to extend our football coach to keep him from going to other schools.

Meanwhile KU is being used as a filling spot for the Pac 12 plane and hired a coach who was fired from his last head coaching gig. Whats the bar set at? 5 wins this year? Rock Chalk.