There is no best food or supplement to have before bed. Just hit your macros and you're set. Some will argue that you need casein protein, either in powder form or from dairy, but you do not need it. One will not lose muscle from not having a slow digesting protein before bed. As far as timing goes. Eat whenever you want. It will not affect your body composition. Some people sleep better on an empty stomach and eat 1-2 hours pre bed and some can sleep after eating. See what you respond better to.

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I like to have a scoop of casein about a half hour before going to bed. I don't i'll continue once i've used what I bought up because it honestly didn't make a huge difference. Like the dude above me said tho ZMA is nice. I take ZMA, and sublingual Vitamin D3 before bed too.

There is no best food or supplement to have before bed. Just hit your macros and you're set. Some will argue that you need casein protein, either in powder form or from dairy, but you do not need it. One will not lose muscle from not having a slow digesting protein before bed. As far as timing goes. Eat whenever you want. It will not affect your body composition. Some people sleep better on an empty stomach and eat 1-2 hours pre bed and some can sleep after eating. See what you respond better to.

Correct.
I always find it amusing when guys believe BOTH (a) that you can "go catabolic" during 5-8 hours of sleeping, AND (b) that 16/8 hour intermittent fasting is beneficial. Isn't the contradiction obvious?
I guess some people are just not thinkers.

The window of time before catabolism truly kicks in is, in fact, amazingly long—something like 60-72 hours, according to most of the studies that have been done.
Yeah those studies weren't done on people with higher-than-average muscle mass due to training (= bodybuilders/fitness guys). So muscle wasting/catabolism would probably start sooner in the kind of people who populate this forum... but definitely not less than 30-40 hours.

Suck it up people. Hunger is the feeling of a burning furnace, own that s**t.

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Personally I eat all my food (and do all my workouts) within six hours of bedtime. Mostly because (a) that's when my kids are sleeping, but also (b) because I'm a "night person" by nature—I get sleepy and lazy when it's daylight out—and (c) because I sleep best on a decently full stomach.
On workout days I regularly consume between 150 and 200 g of carbs, along with 100 to 150 g of protein, within 2-3 hours of going to sleep.
At bedtime, I usually eat 30-60 grams of almonds, brazil nuts, and/or peanuts.
I am about 7% bf right now, so there are clearly no issues of nighttime fat retention.

Correct.I always find it amusing when guys believe BOTH (a) that you can "go catabolic" during 5-8 hours of sleeping, AND (b) that 16/8 hour intermittent fasting is beneficial. Isn't the contradiction obvious?
I guess some people are just not thinkers.

The window of time before catabolism truly kicks in is, in fact, amazingly long—something like 60-72 hours, according to most of the studies that have been done.
Yeah those studies weren't done on people with higher-than-average muscle mass due to training (= bodybuilders/fitness guys). So muscle wasting/catabolism would probably start sooner in the kind of people who populate this forum... but definitely not less than 30-40 hours.

Suck it up people. Hunger is the feeling of a burning furnace, own that s**t.

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In response to the original question:

Personally I eat all my food (and do all my workouts) within six hours of bedtime. Mostly because (a) that's when my kids are sleeping, but also (b) because I'm a "night person" by nature—I get sleepy and lazy when it's daylight out—and (c) because I sleep best on a decently full stomach.
On workout days I regularly consume between 150 and 200 g of carbs, along with 100 to 150 g of protein, within 2-3 hours of going to sleep.
At bedtime, I usually eat 30-60 grams of almonds, brazil nuts, and/or peanuts.
I am about 7% bf right now, so there are clearly no issues of nighttime fat retention.

I have my last meal 2-3 hours before bed. At the moment taking just one pill of Vanillien before bed. I used to believe that whole going catabolic while sleeping and used to take cassien before bed and never saw a difference. Never went back to it.

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There is no best food or supplement to have before bed. Just hit your macros and you're set. Some will argue that you need casein protein, either in powder form or from dairy, but you do not need it. One will not lose muscle from not having a slow digesting protein before bed. As far as timing goes. Eat whenever you want. It will not affect your body composition. Some people sleep better on an empty stomach and eat 1-2 hours pre bed and some can sleep after eating. See what you respond better to.