So for us non-Sony experts, are these APS-C lenses or FF lenses? Are they for use with the crop factor of a crop sensor, or are they really wide for FF? And what is the adapter for they mention if they are E-mount? Am I the only one that read that and went, "huh"?

Joe Ogiba: It's funny seeing DSLR fanboys talking shi* about mirrorless cameras. They think the huge flipping mirror DSLR is the future. Wrong, the DSLR is the buggy whip of cameras. I bet the top people at DPR know that but they depend on the aging DSLR sheep for view count. The A7r II, A7s II , NX1 etc are the future.

TN Args: Let's hope the camera isn't as 'me too' as the lens spec. OTOH introducing a new camera and making it a DSLR instead of mirrorless is about as 'me too' as one can get. Like introducing a 'new' TV with a CRT.

TTLstalker: Not sure if this is the right move. Maybe they should do full frame mirrorless instead since it seems the industry is going in that direction. If they spend their time and resources developing lenses for a full frame DSLR, the lenses would need an adapter if they ever wanted to go mirrorless.