Re: SI dares to claim: Serena can be compared with Federer in GOAT discussion

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Originally Posted by SheepleBuster

Serena is more dominant than Federer but she would not take a game off of Roger. It's probably Chris Evert's intern writing that because she is into that type of nonsense.

She is only dominant because the best WTA players are useless mugs like Azarenka and Sharapova. Nose has to face Nadal, Djokovic and Murray - players who are not afraid of him and have the movement, defense and stamina to destroy him. Remind me who on WTA is a great mover, defender, has a good attacking game and is not a mental midget? Precisely. Serena is feasting on mugs, just like Nose would be without Nadal/Djoker/Mugray.

Re: SI dares to claim: Serena can be compared with Federer in GOAT discussion

I don't like all this mega-hype over Serena.

Her extreme physicality at this age and the fact that she avoided doping control by running into a panic room from controllers, who she took as burglars makes you ask questions (for mods: no accusations just some rational questions).

Anyway, there are guys outside top100 who could probably beat her with ease.

Re: SI dares to claim: Serena can be compared with Federer in GOAT discussion

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Originally Posted by jaymon112

I don't understand the flak she gets, she's an incredible athlete.

really? I don't get these kinds of comments? Exactly what is her great athletic quality? She's just huge and incredibly powerful. She doesn't move particulartly well or seems very agile... It's just that she completely overpowers everyone. I don't find her an incredible athlete at all

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Re: SI dares to claim: Serena can be compared with Federer in GOAT discussion

How insulting to a true competitor like Serena to be compared to a person who's scared of his greatest rivals. Competition has always been a motivating factor for Serena- she faces an obstacle and it pushes her to be better. Fed on the other hand has no problem with people who can't challenge him but let him face someone who doesn't bend willingly and someone who makes it so he has to fight for the win and u can rest assured he'll fold. I'm not saying Fed isn't a legend and an all time great his achievements mandate that as fact and I don't dispute that. I'm just saying u simply can not be the greatest of all time when u lose more than u win against your biggest competitors. Real compition pushes Serena to excellence while real competition pushes Roger to tears. In the instances where Serena's pushed to tears she uses that experience to propel herself- the sign of a real GOAT.

In over achievements: Fed > Serena
In fighting spirit and heart: Serena >>>>> Fed
Peak dominance on tour: Serena > Fed
In facing off against main rivals and top players: Serna >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fed

Honest question for everyone to ponder: if you had to pick one player at their respective peak to face off and play someone on tour for your life or for a loved ones life who would you chose to play that match for you- Serena or Federer? (At the time u have to decide you don't know their opponent or surface, but the players recognize the importance of the match and know the stakes)

Re: SI dares to claim: Serena can be compared with Federer in GOAT discussion

apple and oranges. it's silly to compare Sereana with Fed or any woman with any man. Men and woman don't even play chess together and chess an intellectual sport (no athleticism involved).

Serena simply overpowers her opponents, and there is nothing wrong with that. She simply doesn't have any competition and that's also not her problem. The rest of the women on the WTA tour are pretty clueless but it is what it is. Men and women play 2 different sports (yeah it's still called tennis but nevertheless).

Re: SI dares to claim: Serena can be compared with Federer in GOAT discussion

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Originally Posted by Stefwhit

Serena- she faces an obstacle and it pushes her to be better. Fed on the other hand has no problem with people who can't challenge him but let him face someone who doesn't bend willingly and someone who makes it so he has to fight for the win and u can rest assured he'll fold.

Dude, no one on the women's tour has anything to hurt Serena with. Her opponents not bending over is therefore inconsequential. It's not hard to come across as resilient, a fighter, etc when deep down inside, you know your opponent can't really push you.

Re: SI dares to claim: Serena can be compared with Federer in GOAT discussion

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Originally Posted by Stefwhit

How insulting to a true competitor like Serena to be compared to a person who's scared of his greatest rivals. Competition has always been a motivating factor for Serena- she faces an obstacle and it pushes her to be better. Fed on the other hand has no problem with people who can't challenge him but let him face someone who doesn't bend willingly and someone who makes it so he has to fight for the win and u can rest assured he'll fold. I'm not saying Fed isn't a legend and an all time great his achievements mandate that as fact and I don't dispute that. I'm just saying u simply can not be the greatest of all time when u lose more than u win against your biggest competitors. Real compition pushes Serena to excellence while real competition pushes Roger to tears. In the instances where Serena's pushed to tears she uses that experience to propel herself- the sign of a real GOAT.

In over achievements: Fed > Serena
In fighting spirit and heart: Serena >>>>> Fed
Peak dominance on tour: Serena > Fed
In facing off against main rivals and top players: Serna >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fed

Honest question for everyone to ponder: if you had to pick one player at their respective peak to face off and play someone on tour for your life or for a loved ones life who would you chose to play that match for you- Serena or Federer? (At the time u have to decide you don't know their opponent or surface, but the players recognize the importance of the match and know the stakes)

first of all, nobody showing 'disrespect' to Serena. Also comparing their fighting spirits, achievements, respective peaks etc. is a complete nonsense. I respect both of them but comparing them is absolutely ridiculous.

Compare Graf and Serena. fine with me, and Graf is the GOAT. At least she had some competition, she also won more majors, she won the true GRAND SLAM (meaning all 4 majors in one year). people, wake up.

Re: SI dares to claim: Serena can be compared with Federer in GOAT discussion

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Originally Posted by Alex999

apple and oranges. it's silly to compare Sereana with Fed or any woman with any man. Men and woman don't even play chess toghether and chess in intellectual sport (no athleticism involved).

Serena simply overpowers her opponents, and there is nothing wrong with that. She simply doesn't have any competition and that's also not her problem. The rest of the women on the WTA tour are pretty clueless but it is what it is. Men and women play 2 different sports (yeah it's still called tennis but nevertheless).

Judit Polgar was ranked number 8 in the world in 2005. But in physical sports its no contest between men and women.