It is a bare bones, low powered, receiver. If your budget was $150, I'd say go for it. At $250 though, you (should) get Audyssey room EQ, and some other nice features. For that extra $100, you get a lot more for your money.

With your two subs, I'd recommend getting a receiver with Audyssey MultEQ (or even better, XT). That should put you right around $250 refurb or clearance.

It is a bare bones, low powered, receiver. If your budget was $150, I'd say go for it. At $250 though, you (should) get Audyssey room EQ, and some other nice features. For that extra $100, you get a lot more for your money.

With your two subs, I'd recommend getting a receiver with Audyssey MultEQ (or even better, XT). That should put you right around $250 refurb or clearance.

Ah yes, Thank you. I meant to put in my original posting under wants also is Audyssey..

Also when looking at a receiver how do you know if it has Audyssey, I never seem to see it listed under specs. I guess i would rather be around $200

Thanks guys. I ordered the Denon AVR-1612 off Crutchfield for $199 shipped...

Man, that's a good deal! Two years I got the Denon AVR 1610 (the 2010 version of the one you just ordered) for over $300 on special. It rocks! If the 1612 is the same as the 1610, just updated, than that's a steal!

Your 1610 has analog to HDMI video conversion and a set of B speaker terminals. Otherwise the receivers are pretty similar.

I got last years AVR-591 for $199 new last year. Great deal. If you wait long enough there are bargains to be found.

Yeah i had it in my cart for $199 and went to check out and said $219. so i called Crutchfield and told them. They said the $199 was a mid day sale but if i was ready to order rigth then they would honor the $199. Great Customer Service!

Hello,
I would go with the TX-NR609 from Accessories4less. Only $50 more than your budget. Nothing comes close to it in terms of output power.
Here is a link to the Bench Test:http://www.hometheater.com/content/o...-labs-measures
It honestly shames some $1000 plus AVR's in terms of power.

While it not having MultEQ is certainly a downer, I would far rather have enough power to drive most Speakers out there which is decidedly an issue when spending this little. The 609 retails for $599 and also offers THX Post Processing, Audyssey Dynamic Volume, Networking and much more. Much more powerful than the 509 (6.2 Amps vs 3.9) as it needs to meet THX Select2 Certification. Accordingly uses the Triple Stage Darlington Circuitry used in the upper level Onkyo Models. Also, you can add 2 additional years of Onkyo Warranty by going to Shoponkyo.com for around $50 as the B-Stocks offer 1 year less warranty than A-Stock, So worth an additional $50...
Cheers,
AD

Yeah i had it in my cart for $199 and went to check out and said $219. so i called Crutchfield and told them. They said the $199 was a mid day sale but if i was ready to order rigth then they would honor the $199. Great Customer Service!

I just called Crutchfield and told them the same story as yours and they bough it. First he said the price has been $219 for some weeks now and it has not changed. He was like, you must have used some sort of discount code to get that price. I told him no, it shows up as 199 in the cart this morning and now when i finally go home and order it, it jumped up in price. He put me on hold for like 3 minutes and said, ok i'll do 199.99 shipped to your door by 05/10/2012

I have a very strict budget and i was waiting for a good receiver and now i can't wait to get some speakers

I just called Crutchfield and told them the same story as yours and they bough it. First he said the price has been $219 for some weeks now and it has not changed. He was like, you must have used some sort of discount code to get that price. I told him no, it shows up as 199 in the cart this morning and now when i finally go home and order it, it jumped up in price. He put me on hold for like 3 minutes and said, ok i'll do 199.99 shipped to your door by 05/10/2012

I have a very strict budget and i was waiting for a good receiver and now i can't wait to get some speakers

I just purchased the Denon 1612 for my daughter at Crutchfield. Seems like a decent receiver and Crutchfield's current promotion is $219 with a $25 Gift card (found at Fat Wallet). I'll be setting this up for my daughter and comparing it to my older Denon 2309CI. She owns the Apple TV2, iPad, iPod, iPhone 4 (and the WD TV Live streamer) so it will be interesting to see how all of these interact with this receiver.