i e-mailed the guy and it is the greg-from-uptown i thought it was. he said the 180's at scooterville (bob, you know it?) he bought both bikes from an old scooter-chum of mine back in the mid 90's.

i sent off a second e-mail to him asking about the rally/ss confusion, i'm guessing he just doesn't know enough about scooters to know what he has. he didn't know much about scooters back then, either, but he seemed a nice enough guy. i didn't know him well, though.

as i said, the rally 180 i saw back then was in pretty good shape and the engine had not yet been rebuilt or "customized".

if someone was looking for a vespa project, and could get him to back down on his price since it's only a rally, it might be worth a look... but you'd better know what you're looking at or bring along someone who does to make sure it's not a mess!