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04-10-2013 01:58 PM

Minnewaska

Re: US Navy ship strikes reef because of incorrect charts

For those that criticize the merits of the military academies. Which shoes have you spent a day in?

Forbes rates them among the best colleges in the country:

#7 West Point (Harvard was #6)
#35 Air Force Academy
#43 Naval Academy

These out of 650 that are ranked. It takes more than a political appointment to pull this off.

Scooter. Buddy. Some Midshipman steal your girl? Most of those "ring knockers" would take your lunch in any competition from seamanship to arcade games. Get a grip!!!

Nope! Will never happen... They aren't flexable enough in their thinking on Seamanship.

From a Retired Boatswain Mate.

04-10-2013 09:07 AM

AKscooter

Re: US Navy ship strikes reef because of incorrect charts

hmmmm...don't know about you but.....I do listen to those that have local knowledge....anyway...I be workin' on me second doctorate...them boys.....naw...they earned what.....??? Hittin' up some politician's office for an appointment???? Snort!

Very few earn it....a damn few........and that boy will be a boy all his life.

04-10-2013 08:36 AM

fryewe

Re: US Navy ship strikes reef because of incorrect charts

Scooter. Buddy. Some Midshipman steal your girl? Most of those "ring knockers" would take your lunch in any competition from seamanship to arcade games. Get a grip!!!

04-10-2013 06:05 AM

AKscooter

Re: US Navy ship strikes reef because of incorrect charts

Well, the boat is finally off the reef, in a million pieces......Frickin' ring knockers.

02-23-2013 09:08 PM

AKscooter

Re: US Navy ship strikes reef because of incorrect charts

They are going to salvage the bow and stern sections.....the rest is basically fiberglass and wood in small pieces. They have/will remove the equipment first. The US Navy stated that they were going to restore the reef. (I really want to know how they are going to do that)
No timeline has been given for this operation as tropical depressions have been rolling through the area........

What does this even mean?? English, do you speak it? If left to choose between foreign ships with better than half witted pilots and money, want to bet they will take the money.

Seriously, who was it that drove a perfectly good ship, with unlimited electronics, in excellent weather onto a reef??? A feriner??? Nope. Probably one of them thar fancy Annapolis graduates.
How much was that ship worth.....bwahahahahaha...glad I do not pay taxes in the US anymore. I do not support stupid.

Let me make this clearer for you, as my quote was a take off on your "half witted" comment.

The Filipinos are going to be just as happy, if not happier, with the money they will get from the US over this than giving a darn about a human being having made a mistake. Everyone makes mistakes, even stupid ones.

The chip on your shoulder is quite obvious. Thanks for moving out. That was the noble thing to do.

02-15-2013 12:30 AM

ShoalFinder

Re: US Navy ship strikes reef because of incorrect charts

There may be some truth to that. But when you buy used, you get what you get.

We sold some old junk frigates to Israel many moons ago. One year when my ship pulled into Haifa, we saw those old hulks we sold to Isreal, only Isreal had turned them into much better versions than what they originally were.

Then you have the Kidd class destroyers which were designed for Iran (before they took the hostages, which killed the deal.) When the sale to Iran fell through, these ships were put into the US fleet. They were designed with air-conditioned engine rooms (!) and sand separators for the air intakes. Both nice features. However, they also wanted actual livestock storage pens. The Kidd class destroyers were known throughout the fleet as the "Ayatollah Class." They were really nice ships. I never had an air conditioned engine room on anything I was on! But these were not old vessels sold off from the fleet, they were designed and purpose built.

A friend of mine is pretty sick over this. He served on this ship as a diver a number of years ago and like all sailors has sentimental attachment to his ship.

I had friends on sister ships of this class. It's odd- it wasn't so long ago these were being built. A guided missile cruiser I served on is being decommed next year, and that is heartbreaking to me. I would be horribly saddened to see my ship foundering on a reef and junked before my eyes in such a manner.

Perhaps therein lies the reason you guys usually strip the good bits off and sell what's left to our idiot politicians "fully fitted out" at bargain-basement prices instead. (Brilliant sales-job, BTW)

..and leave us to spend gazillions re-fitting them, none the wiser...

02-14-2013 10:46 PM

ShoalFinder

Re: US Navy ship strikes reef because of incorrect charts

Agreed. I believe this ship has the Isotta-Fraschini diesel. That diesel and the reduction gear is probably half the value of the ship. Between those and the ROV / Mine Disposal System and the towed sensor array, the rest of the boat is relatively worthless.

A friend of mine is pretty sick over this. He served on this ship as a diver a number of years ago and like all sailors has sentimental attachment to his ship.

I had friends on sister ships of this class. It's odd- it wasn't so long ago these were being built. A guided missile cruiser I served on is being decommed next year, and that is heartbreaking to me. I would be horribly saddened to see my ship foundering on a reef and junked before my eyes in such a manner.

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