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Kris White: Claire’s dreams take flight, Kate refuses to be fenced out, and Jack plays catch. We’ll have commentary from executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse on all that and more in today’s Official Lost Podcast hosted by ABC.com.

[Opening Lost Theme]

Kris White: Welcome to the podcast for the episode “The Man from Tallahassee.” I’m your host Kris, and in today’s podcast executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse join us to talk about last week’s episode “Par Avion,” which includes the much expected revelation that Claire and Jack are in fact related. They’ll also have insights on some of our previous episodes including “Enter 77.” First up though, we have a sit down interview with the actress who plays the long lost member of the Shephard clan, Emilie de Ravin. “The Man from Tallahassee” airs Wednesday March 21st from 10 to 11 pm only on ABC.

[Lost Podcast Theme]

[Scene from “Par Avion”]

Emilie de Ravin: It was a really, uh emotionally taxing episode actually. What she’s going through required a lot of pulling from emotion on my behalf and you know sort of being… her character being mentally in just not, not a good stable place. So, long days of that [Laughs] ... can breathe now

Kris White: Did you have any music or magazines or anything that you used, you know between takes to kind of take your mind off the intensity?

Emilie de Ravin: Yeah, no I was, I used my iPod a lot for…for that, you know music for different things, when you’re really, especially when you’re, you know working like 3am till 6 at night. You really, you need something there, and it’s you doing all these things. You’re in every scene and you’re the focus of these things as opposed to being in big group scenes where you interject here and there with a line. When you’re really getting down to focusing about serious emotional material, that does help me and keep you focused, sort of, throughout the day.

[Scene from “Par Avion”]

Emilie de Ravin: It’s contrary to so many situations and so much more to deal with, uh present day and in her, in flashback life, or life before the crash. So… yeah really interesting.

Kris White: The big question now is: Will Claire and Jack ever discover they’re related? After all, the characters have gone a lot longer than 60+ days without the subject ever coming up.

Emilie de Ravin: Yeah, I mean I'm sure they will. I’m sure that they’re going to somehow bring that up whether it’s uh... you know uh, freak happening that it’s spoken about or his name is brought up or there’s a photograph or there’s something found out. I, I think that has to happen, somehow. And I think that it’d be very interesting to work with and for him to find out and for Matthew to deal with this. Realizing he has another family member that you didn’t know about, same thing for me and also whether that's dealt with too in future flashbacks for either one of us. That if we really did neither know or you know if either one of us did know prior to and is hiding it or if it really is still unknown to both of us. So who knows? Maybe we’ll never find out. [Laughs]

Kris White: Of course the only people who know if Claire and Jack will ever attend a family reunion together are executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, whom we now turn it over to.

Carlton Cuse: We do apologize but we have an extremely busy, this like the worst time of the year because we’re trying to, to sort of write the last four episodes of the show and we have to kind of get everything sort of organized on a macro level in order to make sure all the parts of our finale fall correctly, and it just, it’s a lot more difficult on a story narrative level plus the airing of an episode every week is keeping us really busy with post. So something has had to give and unfortunately it’s been our podcast, and we apologize.

Carlton Cuse: Should viewers, uh... What do you think now? Think that people should be happy now?

Damon Lindelof: I don't know. I mean, the reality is we've balanced out the show a little more. I think, you know, the Others are still in the show, certainly, but we're not hanging out in cages all day. We're getting around on the Island, and we're doing some beach stories. You got a little bit of Hurley, a little bit of Claire action. Some old school Sayid, but that wasn't a beach story, I mean that was a very Others-driven story, "Enter 77."

Carlton Cuse: Yeah. Well, speaking about the Claire story, talk about, you know, the fact that Claire and Jack-

Carlton Cuse: And some answers actually. I mean, you should actually believe everything that Mikhail says, other than the fact that he says that he was a member of the DHARMA Initiative. Correct?

Damon Lindelof: Yeah. Well, he's pretending to be a member of the DHARMA Initiative, but everything that he says about the Others, while he's pretending to be a member of the DHARMA Initiative, is true, so... or at least he believes it to be. It's all perspective, I guess.

Carlton Cuse: Right, but he is not intentionally misleading them when he is downloading all the information that he downloads to them about the interrelationship between the DHARMA Initiative and the Others.

Damon Lindelof: And we learned what the DHARMA Initiative called the Others, which is not the Others, called them-

Damon Lindelof: But what are you gonna do? I mean, Jack seems to be really enjoying himself.

Carlton Cuse: Well, I think they gotta find out what happened to him. I mean, if you've come all the way out there, and he's throwing the football with Mr. Friendly, I personally want to know what the heck's going on.

Damon Lindelof: And what, are we gonna have to wait six weeks for that to happen?

Damon Lindelof: Oh! Interesting, all right, well I'll tune in for that.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah, um, all right, shall we uh... Oh, shall we talk about the ping-pong game from the previous episode? What inspired the ping-pong game?

Damon Lindelof: Heh. Well, we have a ping-pong table outside the writers' room, so occasionally after working for several hours into the wee hours of the morning, we will go out there and blow off some steam playing ping-pong and occasionally what will happen is we figure out these great pieces of mythology in our show, but the harder stories to kind of break are the smaller stories, and we will bang our heads against the wall going, "God, what can they be doing this week that's sort of amusing and diverting that isn't intense like shooting Ms. Klugh?"

Carlton Cuse: And so then a really, really brilliant idea strikes us, like: Hey, what if they're playing ping-pong?

Damon Lindelof: I think that's about 5 posts a day, somewhere in that neighborhood. Here's the question, "Why is Locke being an a-hole to his friends, hiding the C-4 and not discussing things with Kate and Sayid. What is his problem lately?"

Carlton Cuse: I think that it's kind of apparent that John Locke is following the beat of a different drummer, I would say. And that different drummer may be his own self.

Damon Lindelof: Wow, so you think there's a method to all these crazy things that he's doing?

Carlton Cuse: I do think there is. I think that Locke has kind of decided that it's time to think about John Locke.

Carlton Cuse: "I loved Pickett's character and thought he was used well, and we got to find out more about him. Did however feel a bit shafted that you brought Ms. Klugh back in Enter 77, only to kill her off. Will we learn more about these two through flashbacks later in the season?"

Damon Lindelof: Well, you never know when someone- The beauty of Lost is when someone dies, they're dead, but that doesn't mean that they won't show up in our memory, and Ms. Klugh is certainly a very interesting character, as is Pickett, who had a relationship with Colleen, who also died. So, you know, what's very interesting is there's a whole 'nother show going on that nobody's watching, which is--

Damon Lindelof: "I think it's possible to kill someone with sound waves, but to have it localized enough to not kill bystanders would seem to have one major flaw: Why couldn't someone just run through it without stopping? It seemed to take several seconds to kill Patchy, so if you ran through and got out of range, you'd be fine, right?"

Carlton Cuse: Wow, that's kind of one of those questions that you just can't answer without like- It's like: Do you always beat your wife?

Damon Lindelof: Here's how I would look at the issue of the sonic fence, wife-beatings aside, is that I wouldn't be running- I wouldn't be doing experiments to find out how it worked or how it didn't work, like if you ran through it really fast, maybe-

Carlton Cuse: That's like if you ran through like a flaming building, would you like catch on fire? I mean, it's kind of not a good idea, just to start, just as a basic tenet. And I think actually, you know, who's to say the sonic fence was turned up full volume when it hit Mikhail? Maybe if the sonic fence was even at a more intense level, it would have fried Mikhail right when he went through. That's why I don't think he's dead because... in my belief, had the sonic fence been turned on to full, Mikahil had gone through there, [snaps fingers] he would have been instantly pulverized by those sound waves.

Carlton Cuse: "He is great at finding things, but don't let him touch anything once he finds it. What's next? Will he find a secret tunnel off the Island and blow that up too?"

Damon Lindelof: Wow, that's very prescient. You're- well picked, booga. You might not want to watch the episode this Wednesday night. You should just skip right ahead to the Nikki and Paulo episode the following week.

Damon Lindelof: The good news is you will actually learn why Locke is on what I like to call the grand explosion tour of aught-four. Yes, he did not mean to implode the original hatch. He actually believed that the button didn't need to get pushed. But there might be an argument to be made for the fact that when he entered 77, especially since we've now seen that he took some C-4 for himself, that he wanted to destroy The Flame. And I'd be very curious as to why. What could his explanation possibly be?

Carlton Cuse: I think it kind of goes back to: What's going through Locke's mind? In fact, you know, it's interesting because this next question is a follow up to the other question which is by JoeSculptor, who's posted 417 times in the last 90 days--

Carlton Cuse: --and he's like, "So what's up with Locke? I mean last night has to be the strangest I've ever seen him with his computer obsession. Even standing guard over a captured prisoner, the computer kept calling out to him, and he had to answer. I mean, how dumb was it to respond to the question if there's an incursion by the hostiles, enter 77? I mean, what else can it be but an alarm? Locke tells Patchy, now I know why you didn't want me to beat it, and then kaboom. Did Locke blow it up on purpose?"

Carlton Cuse: --5 posts in the last 90 days. "There's a rumor that there's a Nikki and Paulo flashback episode coming soon. Is that true? I've also heard that Boone and Shannon will be in that episode. Is that true? Will we figure out who the gay character is in this episode? Thanks, Brady."

Damon Lindelof: Just a little teaser about the Nikki and Paulo episode, you go ahead and raise your eyebrows and be cynical, but you're gonna like it. We get- If you're listening to this podcast, you are gonna like the Nikki and Paulo episode a lot, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say.

Damon Lindelof: "There are several references to a mystery man by the name of Him. Pronouns obviously keep things mysterious. Have we seen this Him before? Can we ever expect Him to show up in a flashback of any of our islanders? What questions about Him do you want us to be asking?"

Carlton Cuse: Um... Well, I think, we've also said this mysterious- We've also heard about somebody named Jacob.

Carlton Cuse: And I think that it would be fair to say that the Him that Brady Hardin is referring to would be Jacob.

Damon Lindelof: So when Ben says -- back when he was Henry Gale in the hatch last year -- oh, I'm not the leader of the Others, the guy who is the leader of the Others, he's a magnificent man and is a vengeful man or whatever the hell it is he says, he's talking about Jacob?

Damon Lindelof: He's... well, they refer to him, and Pickett said he's not even on Jacob's list and... I don't know, we've heard his name enough times to- I would think there is. I don't know who he is.

Damon Lindelof: I don't think they knew about the existence of the Swan station. For one, Kelvin is down there continuing to push the button, even before Desmond comes, for all that time, well after we know that this purge allegedly occurred. And the Others have completely left him alone. So, if they do know about it...

Carlton Cuse: It might make some certain amount of sense, too, that if the - if there was an incident in the Swan station, and there was this electromagnetic anomaly, and this sort of Chernobyl kind of circumstance there, the DHARMA guys wouldn't probably want a lot of other people to know about it. I mean, it would be a definite need-to-know basis because of that kind of circumstance, wouldn't it?

Damon Lindelof: Yeah. It would. And we know that in the Pearl station, they monitor the Swan station. So it's possible that the Others found out about the Swan station once the Oceanic survivors showed up; once Locke found the Hatch...

Carlton Cuse: Let's say one... um... Yeah, I think that's a... that's a good question. But I think their knowledge of the Swan was pretty limited. And I think when Ben came over there and saw that these people were pushing a button every 108 minutes, I think his skepticism was genuine.

Carlton Cuse: Anyway, well I personally love Nikki and Paulo, so I'm looking forward to that, and I'm looking forward to talking to you about that more, next time when we have our next podcast. So, for now, Carlton saying goodbye. Damon, thanks a lot. I'm glad to be here with you.

Kris White: That's it for this podcast. Join us again next week for more inside scoop on Lost, including an exclusive interview with the actress Elizabeth Mitchell. "The Man From Tallahassee" airs Wednesday, March 21 from 10 to 11 PM on ABC, and is available the next day at abc.com.