tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post9177358049012397880..comments2015-03-03T10:14:17.659-08:00Comments on John K Stuff: Big Thank You to March Contributors- And How To Write DialogueJohnKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14033480276168015590noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-15256753615672577492008-05-15T05:54:00.000-07:002008-05-15T05:54:00.000-07:00I might add a couple of don'ts -If you ever find t...I might add a couple of don'ts -<BR/>If you ever find that you have written the following lines:<BR/><BR/>1. Zero, zip, nada, zilch!<BR/>2. What the...!<BR/>3. Radical!<BR/><BR/>It's time to put down your pen. Or to turn off the computer. And then bury it.<BR/>I've lost count of the times I've heard cartoon characters say those lines. Nobody has ever said "What the..." and failed to say "fuck!" Dan Chttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18133320689848797620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-22989649406023428522008-04-09T10:01:00.000-07:002008-04-09T10:01:00.000-07:00Thank you for this. I've always thought about how ...Thank you for this. I've always thought about how my characters should talk. Sometimes with I work on them, I sometimes wind up writing in some dialogue in hopes of showing off what they are like. But yeah, I try to really think it over and make sure that it makes sense to whoever reads it by speaking the dialogue outloud.<BR/><BR/>http://dynamicsketch.deviantart.com/art/Li-l-Dameon-82031894<BR/>Chris E.http://www.blogger.com/profile/08885271532871340321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-91426633118379785102008-04-04T11:18:00.000-07:002008-04-04T11:18:00.000-07:00That chihuahua's brilliant. I imagine it's shiveri...That chihuahua's brilliant. I imagine it's shivering and its eyes are glistening slightly, and it smells like the inside of a shoe. <BR/><BR/>Hope he's doing well!Jack Ruttanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11202365155540203592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-72384729841237913822008-04-02T12:03:00.000-07:002008-04-02T12:03:00.000-07:00It is a distorted habit of mind which identifies t...It is a distorted habit of mind which identifies the real with the actual. In any philosophy worthy of the name, the real is always the ideal, the actual merely the apparent. In genuine philosophy the word ideal signifies what ought to be realized, and is realizable. The perversion of modern thought consists in this, that it understands 'realism' to signify what is in the sense of what occurs; Travenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02837442458479791130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-84701544046209312612008-04-02T10:01:00.000-07:002008-04-02T10:01:00.000-07:00Thanks for the clarification, John!I hate it when ...Thanks for the clarification, John!<BR/><BR/>I hate it when I get dialogue notes from people saying, "That's not how people talk!" Duh! Who wants to hear that?<BR/><BR/>- trevor.<BR/><BR/>PS: It also pisses me off when dialogue is recorded and they delete any spaces the actor takes, and the only time there are any pauses are when they are making something obvious. It hurts, John, it really Booo Tooons Ltd.http://www.blogger.com/profile/08554109671909765241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-35711431825212993332008-04-01T19:19:00.000-07:002008-04-01T19:19:00.000-07:00"It should be colorful, in character, smooth and u..."It should be colorful, in character, smooth and understandable."<BR/>There it is... "in character".<BR/>George Liquor is George Liquor and he should speak and respond to any given situation the way George Liquor would respond to it - which is not the way Bugs would respond, not the way Daffy would respond, and not the way Ren or Stimpy would respond to the same situation.<BR/>Since these are Larry LaBallisterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06481177476730437128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-57614083472347890902008-04-01T15:41:00.000-07:002008-04-01T15:41:00.000-07:00Two things John Babe:1. I have noticed on the flat...Two things John Babe:<BR/><BR/>1. I have noticed on the flat talky cartoons, the diaolgue explains every single little thing that is going on. I've left the room while watching the simpsons once and I noticed you don't even have to watch the TV. Every character is explaining every single little action. They'll be like:<BR/><BR/>Principal Skinner: [over the intercom] Attention please, I need a PCUnfunnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00518171797365794688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-4721055522344535892008-04-01T15:22:00.000-07:002008-04-01T15:22:00.000-07:00Well I didn't say dialogue had to be realistic. It...Well I didn't say dialogue had to be realistic. It has to sound natural, not necessarily be totally realistic.That would be boring.<BR/><BR/>It should be colorful, in character, smooth and understandable. This requires great skill and art.<BR/><BR/>there are no cartoon writers today that are on anywhere near the level of old Hollywood screenwriters.<BR/><BR/>The Dennis Miller example is very apt.JohnKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14033480276168015590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-78314438923643512382008-04-01T14:51:00.000-07:002008-04-01T14:51:00.000-07:00John,What do you say to people who's favorite dial...John,<BR/><BR/>What do you say to people who's favorite dialogue-heavy movies sound nothing like how people really speak ( a la 'His Girl Friday' )?<BR/><BR/>- trevor.Booo Tooons Ltd.http://www.blogger.com/profile/08554109671909765241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-3719697501275233932008-04-01T11:53:00.000-07:002008-04-01T11:53:00.000-07:00"So let's take this thing off....Whoa! Looks like ..."So let's take this thing off....Whoa! Looks like you NEED a mask, buddy!"<BR/><BR/>"Aagh! I'll tear your REAL face off for this! NOBODY out-tricks me!!"Raffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03572774347485509691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-9875744186837125432008-04-01T07:21:00.000-07:002008-04-01T07:21:00.000-07:00I think that all writers should read Hemingway for...I think that all writers should read Hemingway for his natural and simplified writing. He's a great example of someone who can tell a story without it sounding contrived or forced.<BR/>A good example of BAD writing would be the later episodes of M*A*S*H. In the later years, every character seemed to have a version of Hawkeye's lyrical quick wit and tonque twisting creativity in every line they Larry LaBallisterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06481177476730437128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-62078221297831745312008-04-01T05:11:00.000-07:002008-04-01T05:11:00.000-07:00"Matthew Glenn Nunnery"Aww man, it should have sai..."Matthew Glenn Nunnery"<BR/><BR/>Aww man, it should have said 'from Booo Tooons Studio with thanks'... This is what you get when you don't have a bank account and have to rely on your fellow Matthew Nunnerys to take care of the donations for you.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, Booo Toons Studio says: "Thank you, John! From Trevor Thompson ( me ), Matthew and Janine Nunnery. We're glad the dog is warm, Booo Tooons Ltd.http://www.blogger.com/profile/08554109671909765241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-88066894308691233702008-04-01T01:14:00.000-07:002008-04-01T01:14:00.000-07:00Thanks for sharing!Thanks for sharing!Emmanuelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04519230761916408119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-39107357759046784602008-03-31T21:16:00.000-07:002008-03-31T21:16:00.000-07:00Wow, great post on dialog writing!Mr. K, I think y...Wow, great post on dialog writing!<BR/><BR/>Mr. K, I think you should let the viewers of this blog know how much money you are making from them. Like a chart of what goal you're trying to reach or something? "When it reaches here, REAL cartoons can be made again!"Thornhillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01470631022216539786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-20589308171251201772008-03-31T20:14:00.000-07:002008-03-31T20:14:00.000-07:00i have to write an english paper tonight, its most...i have to write an english paper tonight, its mostly dialogue. you picked the prefect night to post this, haha.Jon, Garaizar. superstarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07808878082939885971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-56067522973345652972008-03-31T17:44:00.000-07:002008-03-31T17:44:00.000-07:00Brilliant brilliant. i fully agree, this is wine f...Brilliant brilliant. i fully agree, this is wine for my ear. i feel exactly the same about dialogue. Everything here that you say is how i think it should go. You know the score with scripts written by some bumpkin... i read one just recently that ignored everything you say here and guess what it reads like a confused spiritless bag of shite. What you outline is so simply the way to go that i Mickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17759513040836089014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-30088308934455940552008-03-31T12:50:00.000-07:002008-03-31T12:50:00.000-07:00This is a gripe I have with Dennis Miller's approa...This is a gripe I have with Dennis Miller's approach to comedy - completely apart from his ideology, on just an esthetic level, I feel like I'm being read to and it ends up sounding pretentious - delivery is a lot of what makes or breaks comedy, regardless of the ideas.andyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09055579181373343782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-52112190761076797862008-03-31T12:17:00.000-07:002008-03-31T12:17:00.000-07:00I think I laughed for about 10 minutes at your chi...I think I laughed for about 10 minutes at your chiuahuhua joke. God bless those folks who help sickly animals...Gavin Freitashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13085463383029726857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-44124885776640778122008-03-31T12:02:00.000-07:002008-03-31T12:02:00.000-07:00Comic dialogue is awesome because it's hokey and u...Comic dialogue is awesome <I>because</I> it's hokey and unnatural. One of my favorite artists -- <A HREF="http://dcmatthews.deviantart.com" REL="nofollow">David C. Matthews</A> -- is an expert at writing dialogue in the golden and silver age style and re-creating that old DC and Marvel "feel".<BR/><BR/>The Stimpy's Invention line was awesome. For us the quality of R&S dialogue practically goes Jeff Readhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00953053257166510446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-62419555870392016392008-03-31T06:37:00.000-07:002008-03-31T06:37:00.000-07:00So you think you can improve my dialogue writing s...So you think you can improve my <B>dialogue writing skills</B>, do you? Well I tell you that non one can out-write <B> THE ANIMATION WRITER!</B>. MWAH HAHAHA!<BR/><BR/>*Bursts into a swarm of fully animated purple and pink bees that cascade across a pastoral, Breugal-esque countryside.*NateBearhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17020145920932782176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-25550181776340141002008-03-31T00:58:00.000-07:002008-03-31T00:58:00.000-07:00Where are the animation writers? Serious question ...Where are the animation writers? Serious question and something I was wondering about on my own space recently. Why no web presence? Why no discussion? Why no animation writers' message boards? Where the hell are they?<BR/><BR/>I found one animation writing blog and there's just tumbleweed there. <BR/><BR/>I am genuinely interested in writing and, personally, I think the craft of writing is oftenBitter Animatorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06617537816971588380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-22691585182953429162008-03-31T00:30:00.000-07:002008-03-31T00:30:00.000-07:00Nobody will probably care other than comic artists...Nobody will probably care other than comic artists, but dialogue in comics is a little different than in film.<BR/><BR/>Space is really valuable in comics, and dialogue sometimes needs to be very functional and even schematic to resolve some minor scenes and save valuable panels for where they are needed most.<BR/><BR/>A 15 second conversation is easy to cram in a film, but in comics that's Zorrillahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06785263901609791012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-55758839779116393702008-03-30T21:46:00.000-07:002008-03-30T21:46:00.000-07:00To play devil's advocate a little...The Coens' scr...To play devil's advocate a little...<BR/><BR/>The Coens' script for <I>Miller's Crossing</I> is not natural sounding at all. There's virtually no one on the planet who can speak (off the cuff) as well as the clever characters do in that movie.<BR/><BR/>Verbally, the whole thing comes off like a filmed play, but I maintain that it works, and works really well.<BR/><BR/>I realize that you're Jeff Pidgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09480545918063778031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-53559701762562313272008-03-30T19:35:00.000-07:002008-03-30T19:35:00.000-07:00this is an awesome post.this is an awesome post.Michael Turekhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05905341838773713352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-28229226336641346042008-03-30T16:32:00.000-07:002008-03-30T16:32:00.000-07:00do you actually own a little "Ren" with a sweater ...do you actually own a little "Ren" with a sweater or it's a joke?. I'd love to have that dog anyway.diego cumplidohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15541405344944402676noreply@blogger.com