Measuring the bezels of the iPhone X - can Apple win the bezel-less war? Comments

I think iPhone-X is a whole new level! but after having my s8 for a few days it gets normal after like 2 days trust me. the only thing that still remains nice and useful and fun is the aspect ratio! even with the bezels having a wide/tall aspect ratio is super amazing! it's soooo useful! when using keyboards you can now still see the chat normally! Multi window is finally actually useful and browsing net Instagram and all that is so much easier!

The iPhone X is a great phone. But itÂ’s not worth the ridiculous price tag. Maybe around £699 for the 64GB and £849 for the 256GB. Also why didnÂ’t Apple make a 128GB version. Surely recording at 4K resolution will chew up that 64GB. I believe itÂ’s just a way for Apple to force their iSheeps to the more expensive package. IÂ’m a fan of Apple products but I honestly want them to fail. They are just taking the piss. IÂ’ve got iMac iPhone and iPad so I enjoy some of their products. But I cannot imagine spending over £1000 on a smartphone. I mean letÂ’s up that into context. At the end of the itÂ’s still a phone, maybe a bit more refined.

Linas, 08 Nov 2017"In short, AppleÂ’s engineers deserves kudos" - but wait... who made the display? It was Samsu... moreBecause, my friend - BMW is made in Turkey, Belgium, UK, Germany and USA. Whose credit for the brand engineering it is, hm? Get my point? Samsung is the best for cheap and qualified workforce and manufacturing oled displays in large quantities, nothing more. The engineering of the display is entirely by Apple. You guys keep ranting this for more than 10 years, read first, then think, then speak, not the opposite!:)

One of my friend just naught iPhone x for 1200 dollars 256 gb version and 100 dollar official case, loyal apple follower, and just admitted that has been robbed, phone is nothing special or does offer anything special than competition for abnormal price, just went to shop to return it, does say a lot about how bad iPhone X value for price is

I don't know, when the closest phone, design wise, to the iphone X is Essential PH1 and it is left out of the comparison (as it would beat iphone top and sides, losing only bottom) and you argue that you cant measure the S8 sides because it is curved when you clearly can measure it, it makes the whole article suspicious. For me, a clear attempt to bump the iphone X.

According to GSMArena's calculations, the phone with the best Screen to Body ratio is the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2.

However, for anyone that is interested, I went to check phones with dual-front stereo loudspeakers... almost a must-have feature for high-end phones in my professional opinion, and the shortlist is the Pixel 2, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Nexus 6, SONY Xperia Z3+, Alcatel Idol 4, Alcatel Idol 3 5.5, Alcatel Idol 4s, ZTE Axon 7.

The winner from this short list is the ZTE Axon 7. But how does it compare to the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2, the proclaimed winner from GSMArena?
...well, surprisingly GSMArena's editors are wrong and I'm actually correct (again). I know this sounds like bragging, but I want to approach this from an educational point of view.

So what can we conclude?
The ZTE Axon 7 has a slightly larger display AND a slightly smaller phone bezel/body. An overall improvement of +10% can be seen on the Axon 7. This is especially true when looking at 16:9 content, which is by far and large, the majority of the content (>99%) on the Android ecosystem. Also, the Mi Mix 2 is listed as having 80.8% StB... which should mean the Axon 7 deserves a 88.97% StB, but it doesn't. That's the wrong way to look at it, we should see the Axon 7's listed StB of 72.2%, and work down to state the Mi Mix 2 should have a 65.57% StB.

Whilst weird 18.9:9 or 20:9 aspect ratios sound cool on the spec sheets, and the marketing renders look sleek. But once in your hands, you realise the experience hasn't improved that much, in fact, it has regressed. Its because the bezels from 2015 are still there in 2017, they are just disguised by the aspect ratio... the phone hasn't gotten smaller, the thin display is just covering more.

And to make matters worse, devices like the Samsung Galaxy S8 which curves the corners and the sides makes them unusable at the extreme points and introduces glare and distortions, which means practically they have a smaller usable screen with the same body size. A double-whammy. And lastly, devices with weird notches not only look weird they affect the usable screen area which means they, again practically, have reduced StB ratios even if sites like this do not take this into account.

And the worst part about this?
Even with a device like the ZTE Axon 7, we still have room for improvement but we are regressing. Imagine a device with 4mm side bezels on both sides identical. And 8mm bezel identical on both top/bottom sides. That's very good, but still not the best possible shavings. Those proportions could still house two webcams, proximity sensors, and speakers in the bezels. And on a device with a 5.7 inch display, we're effectively talking about 80% StB on phone dimensions of 143mm x 79mm x 7mm.

Bezels matter, they should be there as they help ergonomics (ie/ holding, gripping, avoiding accidental touches) and they actually aid shock protection in making a more durable device. Again it all comes down to balance and compromises, not too little and not too much. Trust me when I say this, as this is coming from the professional who has asked for larger displays and smaller bezels as back as 2010.... back when most other experts deemed me mad, championed bezels and smaller one-handed screens. Yes, this precedes Steve Job's famous rant about "people sanding their fingers" and that "no one's going to buy that [phone, with a large display]", which editors agreed with. Now, Apple's main iPhone/revenue is their Plus models. Thank you for reading.

Anonymous, 08 Nov 2017Essential phone bezels are much bigger than iPhone X, I mean just compare the bottom bezels of... moreIt's GSM Arena that says in the phone specs that the PH-1 has a bigger screen to body ratio... And i belive that they are right. Essential side bezels are smaller, and the notch is way smaller than the iphone X

sa11oum, 07 Nov 2017Because the Essential phone is garbage. It's very expensive and the camera is worse than 2012 ... moreYou my friend are still stuck in August. Essential is cheaper than the OP5 and has much less bugs and problems.

You can't measure the screens in that way any more!
Put it on the white or solid color background (glowing background would be perfect), put the white screen on and once you get the bw image, use algorithm to compare black and white portion excluding the background

Mike Greene, 08 Nov 2017It doesn't unlock like a fingerprint or iris scanner. You need to look at it, it'll show the u... moreif directly unlock the screen, then you will not able to look at the notification or you just want to check the time.

Duel, 07 Nov 2017"What exactly do you mean by "without doing anything" . We have to lift the gaddammm phone and... moreIt doesn't unlock like a fingerprint or iris scanner. You need to look at it, it'll show the unlock sign, then you need to swipe it up. I'll say it definitely takes more time than fingerprint or iris scanner. They could skip the swipe to make it easier. I really hate swiping up every time to unblock the phone. Again I wish the rumored fingerprint sensor on apple logo could be true

Duel, 07 Nov 2017Galaxy S8 couldn't outsell even 2-years old 6s, nextA two year old phone outselling a 7 month old phone? Wow that's unusual!(sarcasm)
iphone 7 sold less than iPhone 6, so it must be worse by your logic.

Got mine today in silver, it really looks good but about the bezels, the black bezels on the side doesn't let it become a bezel-less phone. The down bezel is also visible and the notch on the top. I hope they could bring the curved display as rumored earlier. It could make it the best looking device. I saw an S8 and it looks completely bezel-less on the sides due to the curves..the other thing which hurt the eyes is the protounding vertical camera. You can't lay it flat on the surface. Overall S8 still looks better due to the always on display and curved aesthrtics but iphone x is all the best looking iphone.