@rawtee I totally agree with @casein_point
Only other thing I would add is edit the shop page and take out the big cartel branding on your page. I am more familiar with them than you, and you dont want somebodys attention to be taken away. Especially at the store front.

@happenclothing Do not spend any money on legal until you have something worth protecting (money wise) and also have the money to hire an attorney for a drawn out legal fight. Also, everything you design is automatically protected under IP (Intellectual Property Law).

Also, like others have said, you should set up the business correctly upfront (LLC, C Corp., S Corp.) because you might have to file all this back paperwork, taxes and filings for dates you've been in business. Whether you wait or not, keep good records.

Basically, I want to correct this statement from above...

"I have seen to many people get their logos copied or yet alone stolen by another company.

"

Either they had nothing to protect ("fair use") or they couldn't afford a lawyer.

Not necessarily on the stolen statement. I actually said that because a incident recently happen where I had to inform a another company local to me that someone had taken their TM logo and just flat out copied it.

@happenclothing Do not spend any money on legal until you have something worth protecting (money wise) and also have the money to hire an attorney for a drawn out legal fight. Also, everything you design is automatically protected under IP (Intellectual Property Law).

Also, like others have said, you should set up the business correctly upfront (LLC, C Corp., S Corp.) because you might have to file all this back paperwork, taxes and filings for dates you've been in business. Whether you wait or not, keep good records.

Basically, I want to correct this statement from above...

"I have seen to many people get their logos copied or yet alone stolen by another company.

"

Either they had nothing to protect ("fair use") or they couldn't afford a lawyer.

Not necessarily on the stolen statement. I actually said that because a incident recently happen where I had to inform a another company local to me that someone had taken their TM logo and just flat out copied it.

It was actually a member who posted in here who tried to steal the logo and use it as a design.

Always protect your neck

I don't want to turn this into an IP forum but this is what I was talking about with fair use. I think everyone would agree the original idea came from Nintendo's Mario Kart. It's the difference between same and similar. This is why it's ok to do parodies and why everyone and their mom has a design with Mickey hands.

Also, this proves my point that the piece of paper did nothing to protect them. All you can really do write a cease and desist letter or sue them. But if the big brands can't stop knockoffs then how can you? Anyway, everything you design has copyright protection (don't waste money on paperwork and lawyers).

@happenclothing Do not spend any money on legal until you have something worth protecting (money wise) and also have the money to hire an attorney for a drawn out legal fight. Also, everything you design is automatically protected under IP (Intellectual Property Law).

Also, like others have said, you should set up the business correctly upfront (LLC, C Corp., S Corp.) because you might have to file all this back paperwork, taxes and filings for dates you've been in business. Whether you wait or not, keep good records.

Basically, I want to correct this statement from above...

"I have seen to many people get their logos copied or yet alone stolen by another company.

"

Either they had nothing to protect ("fair use") or they couldn't afford a lawyer.

Not necessarily on the stolen statement. I actually said that because a incident recently happen where I had to inform a another company local to me that someone had taken their TM logo and just flat out copied it.

It was actually a member who posted in here who tried to steal the logo and use it as a design.

Always protect your neck

I don't want to turn this into an IP forum but this is what I was talking about with fair use. I think everyone would agree the original idea came from Nintendo's Mario Kart. It's the difference between same and similar. This is why it's ok to do parodies and why everyone and their mom has a design with Mickey hands.

Also, this proves my point that the piece of paper did nothing to protect them. All you can really do write a cease and desist letter or sue them. But if the big brands can't stop knockoffs then how can you? Anyway, everything you design has copyright protection (don't waste money on paperwork and lawyers).

Just to jump in this convo, it's always smart to register your artwork somewhere first, proves you did whatever it is first, at least. A good free site I know of is http://myfreecopyright.com/.

Yes registering your images, phrases and name does something. It allows you faster judgments in courts for higher penalties. But I'm guessing that most people on this forum couldn't afford the legal fees and the people that you'd be suing couldn't afford the fines.

@kitelife dude. Your designs are terrible, I sincerely hope you're trolling. PLEASE don't spend any more money (if you have) on this project because I can fully tell you your brand will NEVER EVER go anywhere if you do those designs.

there will always be haters. hater niggas will marry hater bitches and have hater children#KITELIFECHOSEME

I know it's cool. It would be better if haters gave useful feedback rather then just one sentenced opinion. If they know what they're doing and have so much to say why not drop gems right?Oh wait why help potential competition right?...and i know most people will reply "competition yeah right" or something alongs those lines. Then whats the excuse?

...there's none.

It is what it is, they told Einstein he'd never amount to shit and he became one of the greatest minds in history.

Thanks for the support make sure to follow us and hit us up kitelifeco@gmail.com (sidenote: Plus a lot of people don't catch on to the term "KiteLife" right away i tend to have to explain it...although very simple lol. )