To play devils advocate he does have two rookie's playing big minutes, even Brandon Jenkins saw the field a lot first half. Carriker's out, J. Jenkins is suspended, Meriweather out, Coefield is wearing a full sized baby on his hand. D. Hall is D. Hall, as is Doughty. Defense was on the field for 2/3 of that first half.

Not exactly starters talent out there... really effects depth. A lot of guys that should be subbing in for a play or two are playing starters roles. Not saying they shouldn't be ready, but that's just what it is.

That is why we needed to get a FA S or CB, but the cap crap hindered us in really being able to do so. Neither of our rooks are a Sean Taylor, Champ Bailey, or Smoot(1st stint with us)

Phillip Thomas was our only hope at Safety. No wonder Rambo dropped to the 6th round. Should have used last years 3rd rounder on DB instead of on Josh (you can't be) LeSerious that we drafted him in the 3rd.

Always good to find perspective in the midst of a game like this. In his 4th season, shanahan has only produced a serious football team for half a season, which also coincided with the rest of the division having its worst season in decades. In other words, what we're seeing here is really back to normal.

The silver lining is this should be the season Bruce Allen and Dan finally call a spade a spade on move on. There are soooooooooooo many coaches we've missed out on waiting for mike and Kyle to get it together. It's not happening. Time to move on and I imagine Dan wont let the embarrassment go on much longer.

Amen Bro!!! Not having the balls to sit his ass down against Seattle in the playoff game when he was already a gimp, then letting the player get hurt even worse was down right stupidity on Shanny's part. Kyle isn't the offensive genius he was billed as being. Too much hype in the NFL all around, even with coaches. Shanny came in with a rebuilt Broncos team and with a HOF QB and won 2 SBs, then after Elway left hasn't won shit since. I think we need to really get some scouts out to evaluate potential coaches for next season if Mike can't get it together after our bye week.

seriously....0-16 do you think that is a real possibility? can't see it, not even close

Purely as a realist and not because im pissed off rite now....if you look at the schedule the easiest game rite now is Oakland and that is a road game. I think going 0-16 is as hard as going 16-0, but we are so bad rite now that i cant imagine where a win is going to come from. Long season though.

I don't really know what his plan was and what can or cant be don't by RG3. What I do know is that KS is now trying to work with a QB that is no longer a threat to run which forces him into a being an inaccurate pocket passer.

Phillip Thomas was our only hope at Safety. No wonder Rambo dropped to the 6th round. Should have used last years 3rd rounder on DB instead of on Josh (you can't be) LeSerious that we drafted him in the 3rd.

Rambo fell for the most part b/c of his character, and was getting more looks than Thomas in camp. Do agree with the LeRib pick though.

I can forgive last weeks game with the slow start because of RG III being rusty, and then they made a game of it, but damn, 2 weeks in a row we start out totally incompetent on offense in the first half? I think RG III was right after all with questioning the Shanaplan and how he was dealt with in the preseason.

They aren't using him properly.....and stunted his development as a true NFL QB last year relying on the gimmicky Read-option. RG3 has the arm strength, smarts and accuracy to have a better career than Steve Young or Warren Moon.....but with MS/KS coaching may not make it to a second contract.

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