Webwanderer wrote:Where is the devil's advocate in my comments?
You have to know that being so general is simply a way to avoid the core issues. And my goal is not to debunk anything. I'm just a guy in the coffee shop asking questions to understand the real concerns. You have yet to state what is really bothering you. I'm not sure you actually know living on the surface as you are. It is there however. If you actually want to uncover it, I'm happy to help. If you just want to complain about your life as you perceive it, I'll respect that and move on.

WW

The funny thing is ... this thread was never about my life story. I was just stating that, whenever I speak from now on, I want the discussion to have a little more openness in terms of context. It doesn't help to look at everything from a rigid ET perspective ... at least not for me. I don't want discussions to follow a script, and that has happened quite a bit (which is what prompted this thread). Now, given that this is an ET site, I hope that the moderators will allow a slight deviation from the main theme (ET), as long as the overall goal is the same - seeking the truth. If not, it's kind of pointless for me to be here.

But then, you started asking me questions. There is nothing left for me to uncover. I understand whatever I need to understand. I'm just journaling what I feel about this world, in response to people asking me questions (or in response to the urge to journal). Whether it is out of frustration, anger, whatever, is irrelevant. This is what forums and blogs are about, to the best of my knowledge, ... part discussion / part journal.

Nothing needs to be uncovered here. I just don't get why, every single time I journal, people assume it's a therapy session and I'm trying to solicit "help". Can I not just spit out what's going through my head, without it becoming a mistaken "cry for help" ? It is actually quite frustrating at this point.

If the content is uninteresting or inappropriate, then there are 2 options - 1: change the channel, or 2: have the mods delete it.

Hope this is clear. Not once, in all my time here, have I asked for "help". I have asked questions, but never as a "cry for help", and I never will, because I am certain that I know what I need to know. I'm here to pass the time and for entertainment. Now, if I'm speaking some mysterious language that no one understands, then, I guess I should just not speak anymore.

There is nothing left for me to uncover. I understand whatever I need to understand. I'm just journaling what I feel about this world, in response to people asking me questions (or in response to the urge to journal). Whether it is out of frustration, anger, whatever, is irrelevant. This is what forums and blogs are about, to the best of my knowledge, ... part discussion / part journal.

Nothing needs to be uncovered here. I just don't get why, every single time I journal, people assume it's a therapy session and I'm trying to solicit "help". Can I not just spit out what's going through my head, without it becoming a mistaken "cry for help" ? It is actually quite frustrating at this point.

If the content is uninteresting or inappropriate, then there are 2 options - 1: change the channel, or 2: have the mods delete it.

Hope this is clear. Not once, in all my time here, have I asked for "help". I have asked questions, but never as a "cry for help", and I never will, because I am certain that I know what I need to know. I'm here to pass the time and for entertainment. Now, if I'm speaking some mysterious language that no one understands, then, I guess I should just not speak anymore.

As moderator, I don't see this forum as a place for people to come and just vent their frustrations about the world and their perception of their life. This forum was born out of an interest in the growth of consciousness based on the Tolle teachings and other useful avenues of growth. I would request that you respect that and not dominate the the pages with venting's irrelevant to the forum's mission.

If you have no interested in your own growth as a conscious being, this may not be the best place for you, or in the best interest of the members of the forum. If you don't want honest feedback from the membership here, based on their own interest in growth, then there is no dialog to be had in the spirit of which this forum was created.

Webwanderer wrote:As moderator, I don't see this forum as a place for people to come and just vent their frustrations about the world and their perception of their life. This forum was born out of an interest in the growth of consciousness based on the Tolle teachings and other useful avenues of growth. I would request that you respect that and not dominate the the pages with venting's irrelevant to the forum's mission.

If you have no interested in your own growth as a conscious being, this may not be the best place for you, or in the best interest of the members of the forum. If you don't want honest feedback from the membership here, based on their own interest in growth, then there is no dialog to be had in the spirit of which this forum was created.

WW

Excellent ! Done. Thanks for having me here. Feel free to delete all my "venting irrelevant to the forum's mission".

I don't see this forum as a place for anyone's personal journal only to detail their suffering and their cynical view of human life. This is especially true when there is, not only no interest in growing beyond it, but actually preferring to avoid any such discussions and offerings from those who happen upon the topic. I certainly wish you well, and hope you find a way to clarity and more peace in life.