“Morgellons” is the name Mary Leitao chose for what she considered to be a mysterious new illness afflicting her son. Doctors told her it was just eczema, and that the fibers she found on his lip were just lint. But she was determined it must be a novel new disease that she personally had discovered, so she set up a foundation to publicise it. Eventually, via the internet, other people join her organization, the list of symptoms constituting “Morgellons” is expanded to include these new people. Eventually the list of symptoms becomes very broad, and encompasses just about any medical condition. Doctors reject “Morgellons”, since the symptoms are explained by other diseases, and are too varied and vague to constitute a working definition of a new disease.

But the “Foundation” continues on its mission of “raising awareness” of “this disease”. With lots of hard work they get some press coverage, then some local TV coverage, and then eventually some major TV coverage. Each time the story is the same. Some patients are presented who are obviously ill. Their doctors have told them Morgellons is not a real disease, and the fibers are just lint or hair. Wymore says it is a real disease. The CDC is investigating. The end.

As you can see here, Morgellons was a short-lived phenomenon. The local media coverage spurred interest which faded away. The CNN story spurred some interested, but was limited by the audience. Finally two huge spikes surround the networks morning shows and the “Primetime” special, then nothing, it tails off to zero after the next two months.

So what’s going on? Was Morgellons just a product of a media desperate for news during the silly season? The MRF supplied them with an interesting sounding story, and they ran with it? Then what happened? Where did Morgellons go?

But “Morgellons” has gone away. It was a label someone decided to put on a bunch of symptoms without any evidence to indicate that anything unusual was happening, and contrary to the opinions of the entire medical community. A few people publicised it very well for a period of time. The media ran the story, but now they’ve “done that”, and there will be no more stories.

Save the inevitable CDC report on “insufficient evidence”, the inexplicable advocacy of Professor Wymore, and the interminable and sad believer’s theories on Morgellons discussion boards, Morgellons is over.

Morgellons is over, but people are still sick. They are probably more sick now than when the MRF started their media campaign. By popularizing “Morgellons” as an actual disease, it gave validity to those who disagree with their doctors, self diagnosed, and chose inappropriate treatments. Morgellons is over, but the damage is done.

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The damage is done, and for a lot of people, it was, before they ever heard of this. It’s going to forever continue for people, too, as long as they embrace a lie, substituting whatever it is that they can’t face, own up to, and deal with, as being “morgellons disease”. Sure, they’ve been this way without it, though, and people always have lived in fear and denial. That’s nothing new, but basic understandings, and adaptive skills, are not in place to cope with things, too, for these people, and they view a big scary world, outside of their own little scary ones.

Beyond any shadow of doubt, people who believe in this are ill, on various levels, with various diagnosable things. They need simple assistance, and don’t know it. “Morgellons disease” is purely a fear-driven phenomenon, with many intricate facets. There isn’t a group of patients with all the same symptoms in common, but there’s most definitely a group of patients with many troubling things that they can’t make any sense of, united in fear, thinking it is all to blame on things much larger than them.

It even “almost” appears to be a novelty, for some. Of course, I don’t fully understand that, but what illness(es) cause that type of behavior, has it seeming to appear to be a preoccupation that grounds a certain subset of patients. For those, it “seems” to “almost” be a good thing, but I don’t think it’s the best habit to cultivate, in order to cope with something else. They haven’t the capacity to realize that other people, who are utterly at a complete loss to understand their existence, notice what they say on the internet, and don’t know of anything else to do, but to latch onto their words. The authority with which they write (well, copy & paste, mostly), proclaiming their scientific research, and their discoveries, has always bothered me, a great deal. What must they say to people in their daily circles? Of course, they don’t know what they’re doing, or what they’re saying, but other confused people certainly can’t know that.

The snowball effect is incredibly sad to see. The other far-reaching effects of all of this, and what happens to such people as a result, as well as to the others in their lives, including the innocent little ones, and pets, is the hardest thing to think about.

My interest in morgellons was high after seeing the Good Morning America thing. But after investigating and analyzing things I began to realize it was just a total sham and never even existed. My interested is down to checking this website about 1 a month if not less. Right now i am just bored in my cubicle and need something to read. Still going to update Michael?

My next post will probably be when the CDC says something, unless there is some major event. I think I’ve pretty much covered everything else up to this point. I’ve been doing this for six months, and I need a new hobby.

no, you goat lovin, baphomet worshipping jezebel, no
I haven’t yet accepted this diagnosis,
I suffering lesions, not discoid thickening.
What is your CV smelly?
Do tell, coz man you are an expert on everything, amazing……

it is discoid lupus, you nong
if you are so keen on offering unsolicited platitudes,
get it right………
are you lonely?
got no friends?
try delivering meals on wheels.
Smelly, a real lot of people are absoltely disgusted with your pretensious, patronizing goo….
Go get a job babe

Whether this will ever end, who knows? It’s great that the momentum has slowed, or stopped altogether. Hopefully, when the CDC comes out with their report, some of the Morgies will finally come to their senses and treat the conditions they really have. Let’s hope those with serious diseases don’t wait too long to get started.

hi asshole, no it aint slowed, or stopped, just more pain.
I have an open mind to this, in fact one could argue that you are delusional, with your fixed beliefs and unwaving confidence in your convictions.
Hey TC, YOU are the nutter
GUFFAW

i guess most sufferers are avoiding posting on here to avoid the ignomony of your sarcasam and ridicule….
Maybe the blog is trashed coz the tide of awareness regarding your arcane involvements shine on through…..V. boring TC
Oh happy holidays Michael, ya goin to langley for a refresher?

FIll him in on the details and he’ll change his diagnosis to systemic lupus erythematosus. You’d run plumb out of words if you couldn’t use profanity, huh? You have a head, Al, but you just havn’t been using it. Don’t you know that you’re wasting your time trying to bat in the big league?

Al, I’m not sure exactly what you’d like to know about my CV, so you’ll have to be more specific. My concern is that all people live better lives. You truly need to consider your own CV, though, and not mine. However, ask me what you’d like to know, and I’ll be happy to answer. Previously, you’d stated that discoid lupus had been misdiagnosed, and I agreed with that, afterwards, based on the small amount of information you’ve supplied. I’d explained how the systemic type of lupus is often diagnosed as only the cutaneous form, and, how, when more symptoms occur, doctors detect the systemic form. You should think back on your health history and collect all of your medical records. I haven’t a clue as to whether you stuck with the original diagnosing physician, or whether you continued to share that discoid lupus diagnosis with consecutive health care providers. I know you need to be doing something about that, though, if you want to stand any chance of improving.

well, when i ease the thickened scab from my lesion, thick viscous blood comes out, not your runny stuff, no this is semi congealed, hope you’ve had brekky.
I would leave it alone, if it were a normal scab, but the fibres, the thick viscous blood, it hurts like all fuck.

Scabs hurt in part because they tighten and pull at the skin surrounding them, which is painful and can cause itching. Try applying a moisturizer to the scab every few hours. Neutrogena Lip Moisturizer actually works very well on scabs, and it’s handy since you can put it in your pocket.

Quit picking and scratching at your scabs and let the lesions heal. Leave the fibers alone. Quit obcessing with your skin. Your thinking has become delusional. Listen to your doctors. You’re not match for their education.

They’re right, Al. As wounds heal, they can often be uncomfortable. The blood congeals, naturally, and tissue growth factors are involved when a scab forms. New collagen fibers are trying to do their job, but scabs have to remain over wounds, in order for them to complete healing. That new tissue, results in a scar. That’s the normal healing process, and it gets more itchy, as more healing occurs. The more a new scab formation keeps on being removed, the more scar tissue will result, thickening up more, and more, each time.

Didn’t any morgie people get banged up as kids, or was it only me? Hahaha!!!

Why to you prefer a mysterious, albeit, unreal “disease” over one that is known and treatable? Is it about being right? Does the idea of “Morgellons” make you feel special? Validation? Vendication? A crutch? What do you really believe, Starlink? Do you think your mother has “Morgellons” or a corn allergy? Or do you think that all of the Morgies have corn allergies?

Why do you think, so strongly, that your mom has “morgellons disease”, Norman? So strongly, that even though you can’t share any reasons, you are threatened by anyone who points out that there’s no such thing?

Norman, I know parasites exist. What revelance does that have to “morgellons disease”? None. Why? Because there is no “morgellons disease”, but there is such a thing as having parasites, and they are not difficult to detect. You never did answer, when you expressed concern over them before, if your mother had done any travelling, and visited a region where they are endemic. If she has worms, take her to a doctor.

i dont actually despise you at all, in fact you are both rather cute.
I guess this discussion boils down to a philisophical one as you two really have no proof this condition doesn’t exist, and to be fair I cannot categorically say it does. Yet I suffer, as do others, and it seems that you two are the only ones decrying this situation. As to you TC; I dont give a fuck what a meth smoking fag says about me, your bitter, snide remarks quite underwhelm me. Back to science chaps

It’s impossible to prove that something doesn’t exist. The closest thing to proof is the fact that there is no evidence that it does exist. We’ve also told you how the Morgellons nonsense got started in the first place, and the testimony of several qualified people that also deny it’s existance. Additionally, many of the Morgies have demonstrated that they have serious mental problems. You see, I can, and do, catagorically say that it does not exist. Am I taking a gamble? If so, it sure as hell isn’t a very big one.

Never pick at skin, but disinfect a new wound, initially, then afterwards, avoid using anything like hydrogen peroxide, betadine, hibiclens, alcohol, etc. These substances are excellent at killing bacteria, but they’re also good at killing the white blood cells and fibroblasts that work at protecting and knitting wounds shut. The only cleanser needed is soap and clear water, or saline. If the wound is contaminated with particulate matter, water under pressure is the best.

After cleansing a wound, it needs a proper dressing to prevent further contamination and promote healing. Polysporin ointment (bacitracin and polymyxin B combination) gives the best antibiotic coverage and the least possibility of allergic reactions. It has been shown to speed wound healing and produce a better looking result.

The wound should then be covered with something that won’t stick to it, such as a telfa pad. If it isn’t covered, environmental debris will stick to it. Scabs need to stay on, don’t pick at them, and try to keep them as dry as possible, when bathing. Wounds will heal much better if they are kept under a bandage and covered with antibiotic ointment. Healing won’t take place as long as it’s interfered with.

If anyone’s thinking they have “morgellons disease” is a good thing in their life, by all means, they should enjoy it. It sure doesn’t seem to be, but at the same time, all signs indicate it is. If I ever figure out how come, I won’t be so curious about it. Think I ever will, or do I already have a clue? Think there’s ever going to be proof such a disease exists? There’s more evidence in favor of the existence of a man named Santa Claus.

I have seen several articles on toxins produced by blooms of algae and cyanobacteria. The blooms are increasingly common now with global warming and the high levels of of “fertilizers” (or at least ingredients that encourage the growth of algae/cynanobacteria) in runoff. Algal and cyanobacterial toxins can affect the liver and the nervous system, and from what I understand they can cause many of the symptoms people who believe they have Morgellons report (itching/tingling, aching, dizziness, fatigue, etc.). I doubt that most docs have considered this possibility, much less tested for it, since tests are expensive and the technology not easily accessible. I hope the CDC is at least considering this as a possibility, given that: 1) no pathogen for Morgellons has been identified (this could be the case if it was just a toxin); and 2) the distribution of cases seems to cluster around warm coastal states.
Most algal toxins are water-soluble and wash out of the system quickly, but a few are fat-soluble and can hang around the body longer. Some scientists are investigating a link between a cyanobacterial toxin that might cause alzheimer’s, since its structure is similar to an amino acid and it can be built into our proteins, releasing the toxin as the proteins are slowly broken down over the years.

If someone’s skin is tingling or itching and the doctors can’t seem to find a diagnosis that fits, it’s not suprising that they’d be tempted to start picking at their skin and/or examining it with a microscope to try and find out what’s wrong and prove they’re not just crazy. Unfortunate that that just makes them look crazier. But it seems to me to be a perfectly predictable response.

I got hit on my motorcycle. I was thrown clear but broke my wrist on impact. When the doctor took the bandages off there were fibers. I now know that it was Morgellons, not just an accident/injury. It was Morgellons that must have disabled me so I was hit by a pickup truck by a woman talking on her cell phone.

Yeah, that’s what happened. Oh, wait a minute, the fibers are from the bandage.

David!!! Oh, whadda stinker, you are. I’m sorry about your wrist, and hope, luckily, that was the extent of your injuries.

Jillian, I’m sure that many doctors find diagnoses that fit. A lot of patients even treat for them, inappropriately, stopping treatment as soon as they notice improvement, and, then, claiming that “their morgie critters” have returned with a vengeance. From all I have taken in, going on two years, now, nothing is a perfectly predictable response, other than the events following the one, common, diagnosis and the denial of it.

These people have a variety of skin problems. Most of them are probably common, but some may be uncommon, like like algal toxins. But they are diagnosed with DOP because of they way they act and the things they say. The diagnosis is based on their unwarranted beliefs and the fact that they can’t be swayed by any amount of logic.

After receiving that diagnosis they set out to find another doctor, one that will tell them what they want to hear. None will do that except the few Morgellons quacks that are exploiting them for their money. From that point on, everything goes to hell in a hand basket.

Morgies try to blame their skin problems on some of the most complicated and unlikely causes, with a preference to those causes with which some entity will be responsible. But they can’t get past the simple and most likely causes until they can quit the damn scratching, and quit popping off their scabs and pulling fibers out of their lesions. They can’t quit exacerbating their problems with caustic compounds, and they can’t quit smothering their skin with oils and pastes.

It seems too many morgie people can’t turn off their thoughts on the matter, or exercise much control over a lot of things. But, of course, this is a movement, to them. Most people, when they’re depressed, have compulsions, anxiety, or anything, making them miserable, want to treat those conditions, so they can feel better. Most people also know about the itch/scratch cycle, and to leave scabs alone. Most people trust their doctor’s judgement, follow their orders, and stay in contact during treatment. Also, coastal waters are monitored, and the US EPA, NOAA, FDA, USGS, US ACE, NIH, NIEHS, CDC, USDA, and the UNC-CH IMS are aware of Cyanobacterial Harmful Algal Blooms. That isn’t “morgellons disease”. There is no such thing as it, but there are people with a lot of things that they’re calling “morgellons disease”.

Go read today’s biology-online post if you want more details of this real but faux disease! They do it all thru computers and neural interfaces. That drop of water on that crystal lens, etc., and yeah, I don;t know that much about it Michael, that’s why I came here to ask you.

Any others want more info, read today’s post on biology-
online.org for more links.

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Norman, that is nothing that has been prejudged by me. Since you believe it is, then it is up to you, to defend your position to me, finally, like a mature adult. Bear in mind, now, I’m a former sufferer of delusional parasitosis, and I have been observing “morgellons disease”, on line, for almost two years. Let’s have it.

Japan has found trace amounts of unapproved StarLink corn in an American shipment bound for Tokyo’s food supply, renewing fears that major trading partners may once again turn their backs on U.S. crops, U.S. exporters said on Friday. The return of StarLink corn comes as the United States tries to convince reluctant trading partners like the European Union and southern Africa that genetically modified crops are safe for consumers.

Made by Aventis CropScience, the biotech corn variety slipped into the U.S. food supply in September 2000 sparking a nationwide recall of more than 300 kinds of corn-based foods. U.S. regulators had only approved StarLink for animal feed due to concerns that it might cause allergic reactions in humans. Aventis CropScience was later sold to Bayer AG (BAYG.DE) as part of the fallout from the Starlink recalls.

Japan’s Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries late Thursday detected StarLink corn in a U.S. corn shipment in a vessel, The North King, docked at Nagoya harbor, three U.S. exporters told Reuters. “We can confirm that in fact some food corn was detected as StarLink,” one U.S. exporter, who wished not to be identified, told Reuters. “They randomly test inbound corn for StarLink both food and feed corn.” Another U.S. exporter said the discovery would “create a problem for everyone.” “Everyone’s gotten a little lazy. The Japanese government hasn’t been testing that often,” the U.S. exporter said. “Now they’ll be testing every boat again for the next month.”

A Japanese embassy official in Washington said he could not yet confirm that StarLink corn was found, but was checking with Tokyo.

USDA “UNAWARE” OF MATTER, INVESTIGATING

A U.S. Agriculture Department official said the agency was unaware of Japan’s findings on StarLink corn, but was looking into the matter. “There hasn’t been any communication with USDA from the Japanese government,” said a USDA spokesman, who wished not to be identified. “All of our vessels are tested for StarLink.” USDA officials said they were surprised by the news since they believed all remaining StarLink corn was destroyed last year.

U.S. exporters said The North King was chartered by Japanese trading house Mitsui. A Mitsui spokesman in New York could not confirm or deny it was their vessel. The company official said to call its Tokyo office for any comment. The United States is the world’s largest producer of crops that are genetically modified to make them resistant to pests, or to withstand herbicides used to kill nearby weeds. Exporters said the Starlink issue was still vexing, since it takes only a few kernels of corn to spoil an entire cargo. Before the first Starlink recall, corn and other grains were normally “blended” to obtain overall higher grades for food or feed use.

After Starlink roiled the grain trade, the USDA’s Federal Grain Inspection Service put in place specific procedures to “identity preserve” (IP) and segregate grains. “Shippers are supposed to follow the FGIS protocol,” said one corn trader. A POTENTIAL GLOBAL IMPACT The return of StarLink corn could renew widespread international backlash against U.S. grain exports as it did when it was first discovered in the United States two years ago. U.S. corn purchases from top buyer Japan have only started to return to normal this year, while South Korean food processors have continued to shun U.S. corn for food use. South Korea’s KOCOPIA food processor, once a top customer for U.S. corn, bought 107,500 metric tons of Chinese and South American corn on Friday.

It now routinely demands official “non-StarLink” certification and samples for its tenders. Many environmental and consumer groups, especially in Europe, have opposed biotech crops saying more research was needed to ensure they are safe for humans and the environment. The European Union has banned imports of new biotech goods for the last four years due to consumer suspicions. The Bush administration is considering lodging a compliant before the World Trade Organization, saying the restrictions were baseless.

Europe’s fears helped prompt Zambia in not accepting biotech corn, or maize, because there was insufficient evidence of its safety. It is one of six southern African countries facing famine. Fears of a fresh backlash against all U.S. corn weighed on U.S. grain markets on Friday, traders said. Corn for March delivery at the Chicago Board of Trade closed 3 cents lower at $2.39-3/4 cents a bushel. Bids for loaded corn barges at New Orleans, the main U.S. export channel for corn, also were weaker as grain traders awaited more details, merchants said. 12/27/02 14:57 ET

WASHINGTON, July 27 (Reuters) – A science advisory panel on Friday
urged the Environmental Protection Agency to maintain its ban on StarLink
biotech corn in human food, saying too many questions remain about whether
the gene-spliced corn can cause rashes, breathing problems or other allergic
reactions.

StarLink, originated by the European drug giant Aventis SA, caused a
massive U.S. food recall last autumn when traces of the bio-corn were
discovered in taco shells.

The vast U.S. corn supply was accidentally contaminated when farmers,
shippers and grain handlers mixed small amounts of StarLink with other
varieties of yellow corn.

The EPA asked a panel of 16 physicians and independent scientists to
evaluate if a “tolerance level” — or maximum allowable amount of StarLink
– could be established for StarLink in human food.

The agency approved StarLink in 1998 for livestock feed and ethanol, but
banned it in human food because of uncertainties about health effects. At
issue is StarLink’s unique Cry9C protein, which protects the growing plant
from pests.

STARLINK A POTENTIAL ALLERGEN

The science panel concluded in its 40-page report that “no evidence has
been presented that demonstrates StarLink Cry9C’s protein allergenic
potential is diminished.”

It also reaffirmed an earlier finding that the gene-spliced corn has a
“medium likelihood” of being a human allergen.

The panel’s recommendation to the EPA is a setback for Aventis, which faces
several lawsuits and is trying to sell its agricultural division.

The scientists, led by University of Florida toxicologist Stephen Roberts,
questioned the reliability of laboratory tests used by the Food and Drug
Administration and the Centers for Disease Control. The panel expressed
concern about the FDA’s use of an alternate form of Cry9C protein in its
testing, rather than the authentic Starlink-produced Cry9C protein.

The CDC tested blood samples of 17 consumers who claimed to have allergic
reactions to StarLink from food products. All 17 tested negative.

Other safety tests should be conducted with farmers and grain mill workers
to identify any allergic reactions, the scientists recommended. And private
physicians specializing in allergies and immunology should be alerted to
report food reactions to the government for further investigation.

MOST STARLINK GONE

The panel also noted that virtually all StarLink corn would be gone from the
U.S. corn supply by 2002 because of aggressive efforts by the U.S.
Agriculture Department and Aventis to remove StarLink from the market.

Major food makers have also begun testing their corn supplies for StarLink
contamination.

The wet-milling corn process used by food makers for corn-based snack foods
and flours diminishes StarLink’s Cry9C protein and risk to public health,
the panel said.

The EPA, which will consider the panel’s recommendations before issuing a
final decision, said the new report showed there was little risk to the
public from StarLink.

“This supports the agency’s determination that there is no public health
risk from eating products manufactured from StarLink corn through the
wet-milling process, provided that corn utilized in the wet-milling process
does not contain significant levels of StarLink,” the EPA said in a
statement.

EPA TO MAKE FINAL DECISION

The scientific review of StarLink was prompted after Aventis asked the EPA
to set a tolerance level of 20 parts per billion for StarLink in processed
food.

Aventis contends StarLink poses no risk of allergic reactions and is safe to
eat.

“Aventis will fulfill its commitments to continue direct Cry9C-containing
corn to approved feed and nonfood industrial uses,” the company said in a
statement. “We will continue to support the grain handlers and millers with
their testing programs.”

The EPA, which typically follows the advice of its science advisory panels,
did not say how soon it would issue a decision on Aventis’ request.

“EPA sincerely appreciates the high level of scientific expertise this
panel has provided on this important issue,” Stephen Johnson, EPA assistant
administrator, said in a statement.

“Bringing the best science to the table, and evaluating it in a transparent
manner is fundamental as we continue the important work of ensuring
protection of public health and maintaining consumer confidence in the
integrity of the food supply,” Johnson added.

The panel’s recommendation was a victory for environmental groups, which
have urged regulators to go slow with biotech food approvals until more
research is done.

They cited the case of a Florida optometrist who documented with photographs
his skin rash after eating corn chips containing a small amount of StarLink.

“The passive allergy reporting measures that the EPA and FDA have enlisted
to date have been insufficient,” said the Genetically Engineered Food
Alert, a coalition of green and consumer groups. “American consumers have
the right to know what they are eating and that the food they are eating is
safe.”

Scientists considering whether a variety of biotech corn should be allowed
into the food supply heard from a Florida optometrist that he’s allergic to
the grain despite a negative government blood test.

Keith Finger showed the panel pictures of welts and rashes he says he
suffered Sunday after he ate a mixture of StarLink corn and water. He says
he earlier had allergic reactions to tortilla chips that tested positive for
the corn.

“The itching was horrible,” Finger told the scientists Tuesday.

A member of the panel, Dean Metcalfe, an allergy specialist at the National
Institutes of Health, said symptoms like Finger’s would be sufficiently
convincing for a doctor to order tests to tell whether he was allergic to
the corn.

Finger is among 17 people whose blood the Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention tested in the spring for sensitivity to a special protein in the
corn. The tests were negative. Like Finger, all the 17 people had reported
allergic reactions after eating corn products.

Some of the scientists questioned the effectiveness of the test and why the
government had not sought out more potential victims by contacting doctors
around the country. Federal officials said they lacked the money for
wider-ranging tests.

Discovery of the corn in taco shells last fall led to nationwide recalls of
corn products. The corn has been withdrawn from the market, but the crop’s
developer, Aventis CropScience, is asking the Environmental Protection
Agency to allow a minimal amount in the food supply to avoid further
recalls.

The scientific advisers are deciding whether the agency should set a maximum
level for the corn of 20 parts per billion.

The scientists are not expected to issue their recommendation for a week.

A special protein in the corn, called Cry9C, breaks down slowly in the
digestive system, an indication that it might induce allergic reactions.
However, scientists say people would have to be exposed to the protein
repeatedly to become sensitive to it.

StarLink is among several varieties of corn genetically engineered to
produce their own pesticides. StarLink corn was supposed to have been grown
and handled separately from other grain, but farmers often failed to do so.

The Agriculture Department reported Tuesday that it had accounted for all
but 720,000 of the 128 million bushels of StarLink corn. Another 4.9 million
bushels may have been mixed with grain that went to food processors.

Steve Gill, a USDA official, said most of the corn should have been caught
in testing by processors and shippers.

In a report to the scientists, EPA says the actual levels of StarLink in
U.S. corn supplies range from 0.34 to 8 parts per billion, depending on the
method used to make the estimate.

Hells-bells, Norman, that is such old news! Don’t you recall when it was in the news? GM foods have gone a long way since back then. Uh-oh, it’s better that someone like you doesn’t know that, though. Nevermind, ignore what I just said.

I trust you’re typing right now, but in the meantime, you need to lay off any processed foods that contain any GM crop by products, and GM produce, itself, if you’re allergic to it, and get on something for your anxiety over it.

Hi, London. I looked at the links you supplied. Do you mean that you now think that minds are being controlled through electromagnetics, and, that somehow, cybernetics are turning morgie people into robots, or something?

You’re just fooling around, Norman. It’s too obvious, in your case, that you’re just someone sitting at a computer, who knows there is nothing to “morgellons disease” and you’re only playing around. That’s all you’ve ever done, since your explosive arrival here, accusing us of making fun of your mother.

T-Shirt Made of Corn – The industry BIO has come out with a new product! It is a t-shirt made of corn. The carbohydrates in in corn are converted to polylactic acid, which is used to produce fiber that can be woven into a shirt! Can we do the same with spinach?

I hope the E coli used to produce the indigo dye in your jeans isn’t an issue for you, Norman, and that you’re only concerned over GM foods you’re allergic to, or afraid of. I’m sorry if that REALLY IS an issue, but in case it is, just avoid GM foods, to the best of your ability (that’ll be hard, though), and treat for alllergies & anxiety. It’ll be all right. But really, you have been on the wrong subject, here, all along. The topic of discussion on Michael’ blog is “morgellons disease”.

The spin technique they have used in called reverse spin. This is where I had hoped Michael would help me out. Or you or anyone that is knowledgable.

I find it quite strange that we say we have fibers that do not look natural in us and the NSF’s own posted projects called the fibr projects. I think they had 6 of them. I have personally witnessed all of them happening to me.

But what I was mostly trying to say is that it is all done via computational algorithms, gm foods after the lil wasp has done it’s number on the wheat, man-made real illnesses being pumped out of the computer and boom, finally, they are using the memes!

Hell, I’m not that bright but I sure am not that stupid either. Case in point. Not well yet a month ago, I was on the bio-online website and I could visually see thru parts of the computer screen. Of course, 3D. I watched in amazement as the

screen shifted from left to right and vice versa. Just like some gd maize. Well Hello! This is nothing but a meme and hell yes Michael, I know what it is modeled after. I can’t think of the name at the moment but it is modeled after some antiquated prison in Ireland. The one with the big-arse stones. I think it was in use in the 1700′s or so. I think it’s right on track. They burn my gd eyes with their little green and hot pink footballs and this is how it starts. Thru the eyes.

I’m not going into their gd maize nor eat the gm corn maize either. Michael was clearly wrong when he said the parasitoid wasp were “no biggy” b/c they are!

I hope he was wrong on accident and not part of the coverup of this. I mean, c’mon, there is a lot at stake here. Many people have invested a lot of money. but you know what? F them all!

They have no regards for others’ life. They think the world will not support all of us and by 2025 there wont be enough air for all of us to share so they created this chemicle bullshit disease and hope to knock us off via aids and the C.Jacobs disease…..aka Simian Virus.

Try this, it’s called the B16 virus. They have a computer terminal called the very same. I now think that that terminals should be properly called: Terminus Terminals.

There are, however, many pitfalls to being bright and curious. The brilliant mind voraciously consumes everything it encounters, often with scant self-checking, only to connect dots that are not, in fact, connected at all.

The brightest minds are those capable of imagining everything .. and anything.

It can also be a curse.

Myself, I sincerely believe that we’re all poorer, that your mind has been snared by “Morgellons”, when the world is so sorely in need of brilliant and tenacious thinkers.

There’s a lot of malevolent things going on in this world. There are also a lot of false suspicions. But unless you think you can stop the malevolence, why not happily ignore it until they take you out. But, what does all this have to do with Morgellons?

You’d get run outta morgie-town, of course, if you tried enlightening anyone else, but this is good technology, London, that will help millions of people in the future. I’m sorry, you guys & gals aren’t interpretting it correctly.

Also, nano does not equal evil. Nano-energy may be our only viable means to “provide clean, abundant, low-cost energy throughout the world to the 6 billion people that live on the planet today, and the 10+ billion that are expected by the middle of this century.”

Hi guys, sorry I missed your postings last night. I will go back and read all hyperlinks now.

But what about the inks? How can microbes living inside my computer set up help me? Sorry, I don’t care about the paralyzed man getting any help if that means making thousands of others ill. I do not mean that in a mean or malicious way, I don’t. I mean if I was in those shoes, I sincerely would not want anyone to suffer if that means me getting well. I’m not that selfish.

I admit, I am confused and need to do a lot more reading. But man, the Princeton Lab and MIT can do it all. They can map out the dimensions of my face even. I think all of this is
a violation of privacy and should be against the law. But hey, it’s our own government doing it.

By the way, some of us have followed the mysterious man named TamTam. One thing he used to say that none of us could figure out was C3. Now I know what it is. And that just irks me even more. They can read everything on our computer and also copy it, wipe it out, etc., this ain’t right.

Hey starlink, I will try to get another example (hyperlink) that explains it better. Maybe this maize in indeed symblomatic to the gm maize. God, these people make me want to slap, kick and destroy things.

I think I will go inhale some Lavender or take a xanex and a glass of wine for my breakfast. There, that sounds like a Saturday winner for me.

London, you’re adorable, and if anyone who believes in “morgellons” fiber disease has a place in heart, it’s you. You’re intelligent, you have that wonderful sense of humor to carry you through anything, and you’re slow to anger. That really sets you aside. (Plus, you recognize quality, with your admiration of TC. Or, is that a crush? Either way, you see him in the right light.) There are, like TC said, lot’s of malevolent things in the world, but we have to change what we can, within reason, if we can, and ignore the rest. The many problems of this big world shouldn’t bother us, if we can make our own little piece of paradise, living one day at a time, in our own little piece of the planet.

There are numerous disorders and diseases that have been in existence for a very long time, with no known causes, and many of them have no know cures. Many of these things are mild, and many of them are severe. People who think they have this malady, aren’t accepting their real issues. For some reason, they can’t, and this made-up disease is taking them over. It’s feasible, when a person legitimately treats what they have, through doctors, as much as it can be treated. For some problems, that requires treatment from here on out. For other problems, treatments are limited. Either way, many health problems requires people to adjust, cope, and learn to accept that they have forever changed.

If all this looking into irrelevant things keeps certain types of people away from treating what is really causing their misery, whatever that may be, I would try to break the habit, by replacing it with a new and better one. If I couldn’t do it on my own, I’d seek assistance. Like I said before, a lot of vulnerable people view the things others write, and actually swallow what they say, and get pulled into it. Those people are very sick, and being a spectator to all this, for as long as I have, and witnessing their infiltrative, chaotic, methods of influence on others, is beyond terrible.

Things aren’t even understood by people, and such things do not even effect anyone. Going way out there with it, and trying to tie things into a bigger picture is very unhealthy. I once lived with a paranoid schizophrenic, and it is not easy to understand. I thought it was a game, at first, like a hobby. All the weekend warrior, soldier of fortune stuff, and conspiracy theories, weren’t a game, afterall, and it almost cost me my life, many years ago.

Whether the people that influence others, on “morgellons disease” (and its other branches), do it on purpose, as part of what I’ve called baiting and hooking, meaning that they work as part of the scheme to spread this madness, to increase the numbers (which is how it appears); whether they’re people getting their kicks, playing a sick game with sick people; or whether they really have paranoid schizophrenia, they should not be on the internet hurting other people. But, the reality is, that they are.

I hope you are able to treat what you have, before it does any further irreparable damage. Rheumatoid arthritis is very destructive, and living with it, even with treatment, is often hell. It’s one of the most painful conditions there is.

So, you think if I get “it” out of my house, I will imrove? I can shut up too. I just want to get better, hell, I will eagerly stay the same as I am now if I will not get any worse.

But if this gd thing turns into aids or HIV, I will be the first to file the biggest lawsuit ever created and will use every last dime I can get my hands on to do it. But hell, can one actually sue a Gov’t operation?

Look, if any of those idiots that created this are reading it now, just make mine stay the same, or else. If there is a will, there is a way biotech boys!

Okay, back to smart Smileycans……Hey, I really can use your opinion of this then. I know that this psuedo disease works on my olfactory senses. So, what fragrance is best? Nice inviting, ejoyable smell-good ones? Or should I use the usual stinky one> Pee tree Oil? And, your opinion on using Pine and peppermint please?

I prefer Romance by ralph L. or the classic Eternity (Mens) to sniff but I will go where ever you smart people suggest.

You need to see your rhumatologist and get some medications started. You need to do this ASAP. You also need to put a thin film of antibiotic on your arm and cover it with a sterile dressing. It’s imprtant that they QUIT picking at it, and let it heal. What has you doctor said about your arm?

London, I don’t know about your having a pseudo-disease. You’ve said you’d been diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, ezcema, and mentioned that you’re going blind. Unless my memory fails me, you had mentioned a pulmonologist, at one time, but didn’t elaborate as to why you have one. You’ve said a few times that you’re dying, and I hope & pray that you haven’t received that prognosis, from the actual diagnosis of a terminal illness, at some point in your life. None of us can know anything about each other, beyond what is said, here, on the internet. Maybe some people can, and do, open up more to others, away from message boards. That certainly was the case with a lot of unexpected emails I used to receive. “Morgellons disease” was often hardly spoken of, but there were extremely uncanny similarities in the messages I used to get.

I don’t understand what the “it” you’re referring to is. Aromatherapy lifts our spirits, of course. Pine scent is one of my favorites, and peppermint, I think, is good for concentration (hehe, maybe I need some, so I could remember just what it’s for). Citrus, is invigorating, and one that I use a lot. Lavender is supposed to help to calm, as you know. Naturally, any scents that we enjoy enhance us into better moods, and I wish that you felt much better. Try relaxing, and focusing on what needs to really be done to improve your level of well-being. Treat what you know you have, and then, see how things evolve.

“Aromatherapy lifts our spirits, of course. Pine scent is one of my favorites, and peppermint, I think, is good for concentration (hehe, maybe I need some, so I could remember just what it’s for). Citrus, is invigorating, and one that I use a lot. Lavender is supposed to help to calm, as you know.”

Smiley, That does NOTHING to help people with parasites. The smell of crap is in the air.

“A special protein in the corn, called Cry9C, breaks down slowly in the
digestive system, an indication that it might induce allergic reactions.
However, scientists say people would have to be exposed to the protein
repeatedly to become sensitive to it.

StarLink is among several varieties of corn genetically engineered to
produce their own pesticides”

What if you were exposed and had this crystal growing protein in your system. Simlpy stop eating it would not stop the original exposure.

The correct proceedure is to come up with a case definition first. That’s what the CDC is trying to do right now. The CDC cannot use the case definition give to it by the MRF. It’s too broad and it includes several other known diseases. Once they get a case definition, if they can, then they will determine whether or not there are any people whose symptoms fit it. It that happens, a treatment or cure would follow, maybe quickly, because lots of researchers would join in on the effort. Research grants would be awarded. But first they have to have a distinct disease or syndrome, and so far, they don’t.

Okay, back to smart Smileycans……Hey, I really can use your opinion of this then. I know that this psuedo disease works on my olfactory senses. So, what fragrance is best? Nice inviting, ejoyable smell-good ones? Or should I use the usual stinky one> Pee tree Oil? And, your opinion on using Pine and peppermint please?

I prefer Romance by ralph L. or the classic Eternity (Mens) to sniff but I will go where ever you smart people suggest.

Yes, that’s what I said, and that’s exactly correct. So far, the CDC has no evidence that any new disease exists, and to be quite honest with you, they aren’t going to. Morgellons is nothing but a bunch of different ailments. Nothing new, at all!! But, the proper proceedure is to first determine whether or not there is a disease. How are you going to know what causes it, unless you first determine that “it” exists, and how the disease is defined? You can’t.

I have low tolerance for your ignorance, tonight, Norman. London had asked me, about fragrances in comment #101. actually. Why are you jumping from allergies, to worms, back to allergies, again, and then back to worms? Who has what, you or your mom, and why aren’t you treating it? WTF are you messin’ around for? There’s no “morgellons disease”, it is sheer madness to think there is. Treat what you, or your mom has…..allergies/worms. Right?

It’s not okay to wreck the people around you, then blame it on something you claim you cannot control. Once you’ve gotten to that point, you need to take a step WAY back and have a look at what you’re doing.

jeeezelouise Says:
October 14th, 2006 at 10:46 pm
Go on back and read Gillian’s posts, Starlink. She wrote quite an interesting volume that included how she beat on her roommate, maybe broke his nose, but it’s not her fault because she’s sick.

Well excuse me!! You want a friggin argument?? I’ll give ya one!!

His nose isn’t broken. But guess what???? He is pissed right NOW!!

You don’t treat people the way he treats me – sick or not, gotta it???

TallCotton – Are you trying to tell me that if I take an Antipsychotic my fibers will disappear?

I tried taking them – I gained 20 kilograms in damn fibers!

We have been down this path, and I will not repeat what I have already told you, so don’t even start with me. I told you to save your damn lectures. You push me into a corner and I will come out swingin..

Last night I broke a cupboard door off in the kitchen and I slamed the fridge door closed so hard during my rage all the shelves collapsed off the fridge door and everything fell to the floor. I am not sure what my friends nose looks like today, but he was bleeding quite a bit from me hitting him.

Why would I sue you? I have no grounds. But I no longer have sympathy for you. I *have* been in a battering relationship, and you know what? My batterer used to claim the same thing, it was all MY fault, he had SO MUCH going on, and I should NOT have bothered him.

Jeezelouise – You want to talk domestic violence??? I used to work in that field, I know what domestic violence is.

You don’t bother me one bit. You don’t live under this roof, so you don’t know. I tell you what I did to him, but I haven’t told you what he has done to me. Because I feel people won’t believe me, and they will tell me I am an idiot for living here…where the hell do I go when I so damn sick. Back to my parents so my mum can live my life for me?? No thanks, I would rather die.

For those of you wondering why we labeled an illness before it was officially investigated: we were attempting to give a unified voice to thousands of people with the same illness, who were describing this illness in various ways. The people with this illness were losing power in terms of being recognized as a single group. Prior to this label, most physicians would not recognize this illness as anything other than a delusional disorder. Health departments and politicians were hearing from people with this illness, but were hearing various disease descriptions. Thus, we labeled this disease out of necessity, and based the name on a disease description from the 1600’s, which was the only thing that seemed even remotely similar to this disease. None of us will ever know if these illnesses were one and the same, and it really doesn’t matter. We had a name, which could be used consistently with politicians, health departments, and physicians.

There are, however, a LOT of people who stand to gain $$ if they can keep convincing vulnerable people that Morgellons is real.

Starlink, for example, is sitting on a few domain names he hopes to sell. If he can push Gillian to a murderous psychotic break that puts “Morgellons” on the front pages, he stands to make a fortune on those domain names.

There’s a lot of diseases in this world, some curable, some incurable. Some are relatively easy to understand, some are mysterious. More than likely, there are some people with diseases that havn’t been discovered, or named. It may be that only the sufferer knows that something is wrong, but doesn’t know what he or she has. But Morgellons is not one of these diseases. It’s not a syndrome. It’s not a health condition. In itself it is nothing. If you have a disease, or if anyone you know has a disease, it’s not Morgellons. It’s not the fiber disease. It’s something else. Morgellons, at best, is a mistake, a big, harmful, mistake. At worst, it’s a lie, still big, and still harmful. It’s harmful to believe in Morgellons. It causes one to ignore legitimate diagnoses, or abandon a doctor, that might very well come up with an accurate diagnosis. It causes people to refuse their needed medication, medication for other, serious, physical conditions. It’s a waste of time, energy, and money. The hope of finding a cure for “Morgellons” is futile, because the disease DOES NOT exist. Time is of the essence, because people are suffering from other real illnesses. Some could die if they don’t start listening to their doctors. The “belief” in “Morgellons” destroys families and relationships with spouses and friends. The “belief” bankrupts formerly self-sufficient people. The people who promote “Morgellons Disease”, for the most part, don’t realize the terrible harm they are doing. For a long time, I helped to probagate the misinformation myself, until I found out the truth. I do know what the truth is.

Time is of the essence, because people are suffering from other real illnesses. Some could die if they don’t start listening to their doctors.

A very good example is how the Morgies claim Travis Wilson as their poster boy. Lisa Wilson long ago retracted her statements that Travis killed himself because he had Morgellons, and now says he did, in fact, OD on narcotics.

Travis should have been aggressively treated for opiate and amphetamine abuse. Instead, he died.

By the way, Billy Koch wants nothing to do with the Morgellons “movement”. But does that stop them from using his name?

I just want them all to come to their senses. Starlink’s mom needs help. The other’s need help to. But none of them are “ever” going to get any help by thinking they are afflicted with this non-existant illness. They have “other” real disorders that need to be addressed. They are harming themselves and each other. They are harming others that come along and swallow the lie of morgellons.

You see, Starlink, you have demanded that we prove Morgellons does not exist, demanded that we prove we are not being paid, demanded that we prove we do not work for some nefarious government agency, prove that we do not work for Monsanto, prove that we are not involved in the GM food industry, etc etc etc.

So, since you think it’s easy to prove a negative, please prove to us that you do not have domain names to sell.

I believe that Starlink has domain names he hopes to sell, and that the best thing he can possibly hope for, is Gillian suffering a complete psychotic break that includes a spectacular and bloody stand-off.

I further believe that Starlink and all of the other personas he uses on this blog post here with willful and knowing intent to push Gillian or any other Morgie over the edge, so that he/she/it can make a fortune on those domain names.

Okay, it has been demonstrated that while you demand proof of every statement made on this blog, you are incapable of backing up your own statements. Further, it’s been demonstrated that you’ve the cognitive facility of a 12 year old. Nothing for me to lose sleep over. Good night.

Michael created his blog to inform the public of the myth behind this. He’s allowed comments, but he hasn’t had to.

Where did the name Morgellons Disease originate?

For those of you wondering why we labeled an illness before it was officially investigated: we were attempting to give a unified voice to thousands of people with the same illness, who were describing this illness in various ways.

DOP is often classified into three types according to the underlying condition:

The people with this illness were losing power in terms of being recognized as a single group. Prior to this label, most physicians would not recognize this illness as anything other than a delusional disorder. Health departments and politicians were hearing from people with this illness, but were hearing various disease descriptions. Thus, we labeled this disease out of necessity, and based the name on a disease description from the 1600’s, which was the only thing that seemed even remotely similar to this disease. None of us will ever know if these illnesses were one and the same, and it really doesn’t matter. We had a name, which could be used consistently with politicians, health departments, and physicians.

DOP HAS MANY DIFFERENT CAUSES

Mary Leitao, an apparent DOP/MSBP mother, made up the “case definition” which reflects all those many various causes. Nobody has anything in common, and that’s precisely why there are “various disease descriptions”, as stated above. The only thing in common, is what many people were diagnosed with, and in denial of. She chose to make up a “new” disease which bore striking similarities to a 400 year old misinterpretation of common skin occurences, giving it the same name.

C.E. Kellett said,

It is, I think, significant that the distribution of this malady should, in the main, coincide with those areas where this superstition prevailed at that time the most, and fitting that the etiology of both should have resided in factors with which Sir Thomas Browne should, perhaps to a greater extent than any of his contemporaries, have been so unconcerned.

Sir Thomas Browne firmly believed in witchcraft and demons. DOP & “morgellons disease” are synonymous illnesses. Until people take Step A, to treat it, and get over it, they can’t take Step B, and attend to their underlying condtions that are causing it to manifest. Their lives fall apart in ruins, and they blame it on “morgellons disease”, when it isn’t. It’s what their doctors diagnosed, over & over.

I think people are worse off than we realize and nobody can do anything to change that. Giving them this made-up “disease” that covers them all, has messed with people’s minds way more than they already were. Anyone that TC & I were ever able to touch in the past, obviously had secondary DOP, from an underlying organic cause, just like we’d had, so it was easier to recover from. God knows, it was FAR from easy, though, and nearly took both of us out of here. Still, I think that is the simpler form.

The orgnanic cause for DOP is the “simpler form”, for way too obvious reasons, but until the delusions cease, one doesn’t know that they were in a delusional state.

There are people are overly sensitive & have crying spells — why not treat that? People are overly aggressive — why not treat that? People are anxiety-ridden — why not treat that? People are paranoid — why not treat that? People are driven by obsessive compulsions & compulsive obsessions (yeah, I know it’s OCD, I just wanted to say that) — why not treat that? — and those are the easier things that need brought under control and are being denied. Treating those conditions “might be” all that it takes for some people to improve. The other mental disorders are far more problematic.

#180 Starlink Says:
October 15th, 2006 at 12:41 am

Hey smiley-

Can you re-right the previous post without the word “they”

Hey, yeah, if you point it out to me. Do you enjoy your condition, or do you suffer from it?

You’re such a dumbass. You accuse Smiley of talking to herself, but you post 4 times in a row before any of the rest of us get out of bed. That’s not to mention laughing at your own stupidity. Throw Mama another ear of corn!!

Jeezelouise – You want to talk domestic violence??? I used to work in that field, I know what domestic violence is.

You don’t bother me one bit. You don’t live under this roof, so you don’t know. I tell you what I did to him, but I haven’t told you what he has done to me. Because I feel people won’t believe me, and they will tell me I am an idiot for living here…where the hell do I go when I so damn sick. Back to my parents so my mum can live my life for me?? No thanks, I would rather die.

That’s funny. Wasn’t he pointing the other way?
Scarecrow
Of course, people do go both ways!
Dorothy
Are you doing that on purpose, or can’t you make up your mind?
Scarecrow
That’s the trouble. I can’t make up my mind. I haven’t got a brain, only straw.

Now, Norman. Thinking Tall has anything indecisive in his nature, makes as little sense as the things June said concerning me. HAHAHAHA. She’d said, for one thing, that I’m a man, and that I long to be the man I used to be. Gotta love it. I think you may have misunderstood what I’d meant, again, in the links for Gilllian. The last one had a lot of extra literature on both topics, disabilities in women & domestic violence. If we didn’t have you keeping us in line, my gosh, I’d hate to think how disorganized we’d all be, Norman.

Hi folks, I don’t have time to read all the posts, but I see things are going swimmingly. I just wanted to share this email from Doctor Schwartz:

Hello. We now have very effective broad-based treatment leading to effective
control in difficult cases,rapid cure in early cases.Developing name change
from “Morgellons” as bad association with “delusional” The bone erosion is
important to address since we have seen bilateral hip joint degenerations in
young people. The neurological MRI examinations are very disturbing as they
show scattered areas in the peri-ventricular regions which we believe
represents encystment of parasite. We have developed a network of treating
physicians who will use our protocols. Right now, we charge a one-time
consultation fee of $500.00 which includes help with management of the
patient over a year or until full cure and consult or assistance in finding a
treating physician. Anyone interested can send check or mo to Dr. G. Schwartz
at 6574 North State Road#7 suite 404 Coconut Creek, Florida 33073. PLEASE
no responses saying the fee is too much or too little or whatever. Our staff
has to live also and the service is real, effective and guaranteed to offer
major improvement and control, full cure in early cases.

It’s pretty easy to eliminate an encysted parasite that doesn’t exist. In my opinion, Dr. Schwartz is the parasite, feasting on these people’s hopes and hard earned money during a time of desperation. I think this one belongs behind bars.

I hope anyone who is in denial of this disese gets it, it sucks, its real, and for anyone who is so cold and closed minded to say negative things about the people who have it “get a life” your living in a box, you dont see the future and you obviously wont be part of it, I beleave in bad carma and its coming your way!
I wont respond to any response you give, becouse its a waist of my time, I have more important things to do than wast my time with stupid people!

I’m sorry that you’re sick. No one here is in denial of any real diseases. What disease do you have?

I’m sorry that you’re so angry as to wish your disease on other people. With that kind of attitude, if I were you, I would be afraid that the Karma would come back on me.

Obviously, your disease has disturbed your thinking. Also, I don’t know how you expect to get better with such a negative handle as “Almost Dead”. If you feel like responding, let us know what disease you have.

Please don’t concern yourself with Morgellons. It doesn’t exist. Just concern yourself with what you really have. Take care of yourself, and please get rid of that name you gave yourself.

When one knows an untimely death is approaching, it is wonderful to be able to accept it, and to go ahead with things, as one prepares. Certainly, time shouldn’t be spent on anyone, or, anything, that’s stupid.

Did y’all hear why Starlink got himself a Bassett hound? Well, when he first went to Texas he bought himself a brand new ten gallon hat. He was walking down the road one day, wearing that new hat and some rednecks came driving by, and shouted, “Get along little doggie”. HAHAHAHA!!!

the bastards have stopped me posting
fascist pigs….
well well how funny to see you being defensive and rude Smilykins
You really let yourelf down.
I have tried to post several times but my posts have been blocked.
I see you had time to orchestrate that Michael, YOU idiot.
TC, you making redneck jokes….You must think of then as funny….
Over here we call that the pot calling the kettle black.
Oh yeah 300,000, 000 yanks, now thats a lot of tugging
Jeezelouise, you are a typical bully/coward.
Oh well thats all from dingbats@yahoo.com

so you stupid person, let me be very specific.
1/… Do you have any Tertiary Qualifications?
2/…Do you represent the veiws of any third party?
3/…How do you respond to the allegation that you are colluding with others in this matter?
4/…Do you hold any current Practitioners License?
5/…Have you had any License to Practice revoked?

Gill I’m a good guy, I got an aeful lesion and I’m sore….but life goes on…
I think if Smilykins can be so authoratative on all matters, she aught to vouchsafe for herself. I think the questions are more than reasonable, considering the obvious suffering this causes… God Bless You Gill..

so you stupid person, let me be very specific.
1/… Do you have any Tertiary Qualifications?
2/…Do you represent the veiws of any third party?
3/…How do you respond to the allegation that you are colluding with others in this matter?
4/…Do you hold any current Practitioners License?
5/…Have you had any License to Practice revoked?

Waiting WAITING
WAITING SMILYKINS WE’RE WAITING…..so you stupid person, let me be very specific.
1/… Do you have any Tertiary Qualifications?
2/…Do you represent the veiws of any third party?
3/…How do you respond to the allegation that you are colluding with others in this matter?
4/…Do you hold any current Practitioners License?
5/…Have you had any License to Practice revoked?

N.b. Please adress all points in a concise erudite fasion.

Regards as ever, in pain AL

I GUESS IT WILL BE LONG AND BORING, BETTER THAT I GUESS, THAN SMALL’n SMELLY

Funny you know – 2 years on from the birth of Morgellons and certain people just say to me now, “Don’t waste your time on Morgellons”…funny isn’t it.. HA HA HA HA

I now smile too myself because what I always believed in my heart at the very beginning of my illness has ALL come to light..thank you to the good guys (and you people know who you are)…I am not sorry to have learnt about Morgellons…I am so very grateful…and I just keep smiling…

so you stupid person, let me be very specific.
1/… Do you have any Tertiary Qualifications?
2/…Do you represent the veiws of any third party?
3/…How do you respond to the allegation that you are colluding with others in this matter?
4/…Do you hold any current Practitioners License?
5/…Have you had any License to Practice revoked?

C’MON SMELLY
dont be a sad sack sad assed yank…
I thought you of all people could “understand” and “empathise”
now ur swearin at me?
lemme think ofa question for TC…..
ummmm. ok ,
1/… HAVE YOU EVER CONDUCTED/TAKEN PART IN ANY “DELIVERANCE” MINISTRY? Y/N
…. i have no further questions, at this time, Your Honour…

well Tc, thats funny coz I’m sure u n smelly have ur heads in each others ass……ewwwww what a stench, as can be attested by your torrent of bile, amidst a jetsam of verbal goo….(i like the word goo….do you?)

Gee, that wuz fun. YA DAMN COMMIE!!! Hahahaha. Has everyone else got their CVs in good form, so they can be free to speak? Geesh, Al. Whazzup witchoo? I’m sorry you’re in pain. I really am, but what is up with you?

tallcotton Says:
October 17th, 2006 at 7:43 pm
No, let’s don’t call it lyme. Let’s call each person’s illness what each person has. People DO NOT have the same set of symptoms. That’s the lie of Morgellons.

Where? Show it to me, Norman, cuz I missed it. He’d asked for my CV, a week ago, and I told him he needed to be concerned about his own, not mine. But to appease him, since I didn’t know what he wanted to know, precisely, I’d told him to be specific, and I would be happy to answer anything he wanted to know. So, show me what I missed.

Ok bitch, what we want to know is where you get the gumption to prattle on concerning matters to wit, you attest, that you have no formal training…on that basis, I require more attention to details in your answers. Perhaps you were a little too concise….Did you, for example, finish High School?

Do you EVER question the idiots giving nothing but HARMFUL, dangerous, advice to people who claim to be suffering from “morgellons disease”, Al, or Norman? They never ask anything from one another, they just give insane advice to prolong symptoms. That’s cool, is it?

Now come on TC you rednecked coot, answer the questions….
1/…Are you involved in a cult?
2/…Is it the Scientologists?
3/…Is it the cult of “the return of the village people”?
4/…Fire away sailor boy, i mean semen stains, i mean you drip
i reckon your y chromosone is firing too much TC….
Question 5/.. Are you on HRT?….

I’m here, Norman, because I can be, living in a free country, having free speech. While we’re on the topic, you know what else is real un-cool? All these people who live in fear of our government, when they belong to a group of people who all wrote the government, dogging our lawmakers about their conditions. Reason that out to me.

Smilykins we all see you as a wheedling fool, we reason nothing to you, except to say you are, perhaps, the most forthrightly disgusting, amoral dweeb I’ve ever encountered….happy days together you drop kicks…

I’ve told you, over and over. I am here trying to keep vulnerable people from becomming sucked into the lie of Morgellons. Morgies have their minds made up, so it’s hard to help them, but there are undecided people that could get into the morgellons trap. The belief in Morgellons is quick sand and it’s potentially deadly. You people are playing with people’s lives and the belief in morgellons could kill them.

The Duval County Health Department Epidemiology Program began to receive phone calls from the public in February 2005 regarding a skin condition called Morgellons Disease recently highlighted in local news reports. DCHD initiated an investigation into the epidemiology of Morgellons Disease in Duval County. Each reported case was documented and investigated, and the feasibility of designing an epidemiologic study was considered.

I guess that is the nub of the problem smellyflaps, is that you actually believe in your intelligence, now excuse me but aren’t falsely held beliefs a delusion… you are a pathetic worm and i guess you deserve TC, but God help us you cant breed.

Well done Starlink, case proven.
You are a nothing Smily
as are you TC
ROLL UP ROLL UP
TO THE GREATEST
CON OF ALL
THE MOST FARCICAL
PORTRAYAL OF
REASON
EVER EXIBITED IN PUBLIC
THE COMPLETE ABANDONMENT
OF FACT
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I PROUDLY PRESENT TO YOU
SMALL n’ SMELLY
GIVE IT OVER, FOLKS

SMELLY, I’m sure you know who you have dismissed and TC has ridiculed… but by we I sorta am generalizing you sickening pile of alcoholics chunder broiling in the sun on your filth ridden sidewalks of downtown us.

Norman, you are astounding. Now, why not take that lovely logic of yours and warn all the delusional people on morgie message boards….

THE PEOPLE GIVING ADVICE HERE ABOUT MORGELLONS HAVE NO EDUCATION IN MEDICINE.

and…

You would be better off talking to your local herb and vitamin store than taking advice from this site.

Al, you are the first person in my entire life that has ever applied the word “stupid” to me. Do you seriously think your little words on a computer screen damage me in any way? Even if anyone in real life would ever have cause to think I was a stupid person…..well, no, I just can’t fathom that ever occurring.

You are both fools. You are risking people’s lives by promoting the lie of Morgellons. You are hurting people!!!. This phoney Morgellons self-diagnosis is hurting people. You both know that Smileykins knows what she’s talking about. She’s very educated and intelligent. If you havn’t figured that out, God help you. No one else can.

Smilykins, you are an obtuse character, but please, there is nothing particularly memorable about what you say, but I get the impression you would argue the point even in bed…..ewwwwww , another disgusting image…
Smily, not only are you the most able fool I’ve met, but you do it in such a way as to really show your sad little life, but apart from that, you are rather underwhelming.

You need someone to turn a firehose on ya Norman, full blast, because there hasn’t been anyone on this blog giving out any advice on “morgellons disease”, except for a few morgies than come here by accident, not seeing the big words at the top of the page. The people participating in Michael blog, know what “morgellons disease” is, and everyone would, if they were not mixed up to begin with, and susceptible to falling under its spell. Once they have, they’re gone. We can’t get them to ever return to reality. Such people as yourselves, don’t want reality. You’ve been deceived out of it. I was there myself, one time, for a short spell.

how is Smilykins educated, TC?
when i asked she told me that she had no tertiary education……
ahhhh you mean the university of life….i guess
comeon you fuckstick, she either is, or aint, fucking educated….now which is it?

No one respects you, and no one believes you. When you open your mouth, nothing comes out but lies. You need to wise up, but first you need to grow up. Like you are right now, you’re a worthless little bastard. You need psychiatric help. You’re one strange SOB.

Guys, I’m just unaccustomed to your conditions, so sure, it’s a curiosity. I don’t mean to be argumentative. I really don’t like to argue, but what’s going on here, certainly doesn’t qualify as arguing. I don’t really know what it is. It’s a rather unique and intriging experience, though.

Don’t read my goo. It’s over your head, Al. Morgie people want someone to care, and when anyone does, they turn into demons against them. I’m sure it’s that way in real life, too. When I went through a two month long delusional phase, I sure as hell didn’t turn into an asshole. I was never one to begin with, though.

hun, the ironic thing is, people such as myself and others, couldn’t stomach reading all your carefully worded arguments, but they are so easy to rebut, coz you learn by rote, try some independent thinking, objective stance, I feel you try to be objective using flowery bullshit prose, doesnt work for me…. how are ya TC? ya wanker?

Please, go off and pick your scabs now, with all your friends in morgieland, and have a ball. Mail ‘em in to your delusional professor and let him obsess over them. Better yet, go see him in person, and let him pick you, just like monkeys do each other on animal kingdom programs.

ummm. in our westminster system, we’d call this holding the balance of power….
hurry home Michael, you got some programming to do…
Smilykins is falling apart here dude…..while you are on holidays, how rude…

Threatening as hell to your manhood, ain’t I? Hehehe. Well, don’t feel bad, I’ve always had that effect on men, Al. TC’s been the only one with a strong enough sense of himself to handle me. So in Tassie, if you complete high school they consider people as “drop-outs” for not pursuing high education? Golly.

I didn’t say I was on any medication for ADD, dummy. If I were, how would you have thought I had ADD? Frankly, I didn’t even look at what you posted when you questioned it. I just admit it, because I have it. Now, I’ll go see if you really spotted it, or if you were just being Norman.

Norman, comment number 330, that you referenced as showing my ADD, was hilarious! I’d addressed you, and then, I addressed Al. That’s great how your cognition functionings work so well for ya. And I have a 12th grade education, tra-la-la-la-la-la-la.

I always have this effect on men, for some reason. Listen how obsessed with me you guys are. Oh. Or can you just not help that? Al, baby, I was an honor student, of course, and I’m a little knock-out. I only graduated high school. Did I already say that, several places on this blog, besides underneath this topic? Oh yeah, I did. I’ll give each of you fellas a brand new fitty-cent piece, if ya can find where I did.

Look this is a scientific blog, and I further note, that in Michael absence, the debate has been derailed by continued IDIOTIC goo written by these two pigs trotters, Smelly n’ Small….I aske formally that the moderation is switched back on, so my posts can be blocked, and Smelly n’ small can delete their blogs too…. coz the cracks are showing…plumbers butt we call em…..back to science ……PLEASE

GILL I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT
we are just enjoying some time out from oozykins n’ co
coz as she says:
smileykins Says:
October 17th, 2006 at 7:48 pm
Norman, I DO have a low education level. I only graduated high school

Poor devastated academic smelly
u orta be on stage
there is always an opening for a drama queen

to do bold; and be as omnipotent as smilykins type with strong written in between ok? asdescribed above the text box you write in
THEN ONLY THEN CAN WE BE AS LITTLE SMILYKINS UNTO OURSELVES, AND RIGHT UP OURSELVES

All right. Do you think you can attempt to communicate on the level of a adult? Not necessarily, even, a mature adult, but just an adult? It seems that quite a few morgies spread the word around, THEMSELVES, whether you can realize, and acknowledge, it, that Michael, Tall Cotton, and I, were doctors, or possibly medical students, in the early days of this blog. There was speculation, too, that Tall Cotton & I, aka, Bugs Alive & Adapted, were responsible for Michael’ blog. Do you realize how ludicrous many of you have been, labeling us as this and that, as well as Jeezelouise, and Sarah Bione-Dunn? Especially those such as Norman, who’s even got his own blog, about us, saying that we work for the government, and that this blog is government sponsored. I said a long time ago, when accused of being a doctor, and/or of “diagnosing” over the web, that I only have a 12th grade education. It isn’t easy to understand people that see things so differently. I’ve tried to, but I don’t know how. Can you help me? I have tried to be nice, and I honestly am concerned, and want to know about your conditions. What have you done towards promoting understanding?

SMALL N’ SMELLY
really brings forth an array of disturbing imagery…………………
like a prawn, slowly putrefying in a dogs bowl….
or,
like a dog poo when you mow the lawn……
or,
like TC…..
or,
the slowly decaying goldfish i kept as a kid

“those such as Norman, who’s even got his own blog, about us, saying that we work for the government, and that this blog is government sponsored. I said a long time ago, when accused of being a doctor, and/or of “diagnosing” over the web, that I only have a 12th grade education. It isn’t easy to understand people that see things so differently. I’ve tried to, but I don’t know how. Can you help me?”

well, what we have done to promote understanding, smelly , is to promote the understanding that you are a sham and a fraud, offering your unsolicited advice….that is the understanding I/we, she, he and thee are fostering…..
back in your hole, snake

Obviously smelly feels a bit undermined, this is great, but as she squirms and waffles on, please be kind, coz she hasa limited grasp of academic interests, it is very sad…..very, very sad….so, so sad….

where are the results of your “study”?
I feel we have proven you are unfit to undertake any study hun, coz you have not a clue as to how to set up a control or even a basic grasp of statistics required to analyze information…. you are DREAMING YOU SAD OBSESSIVE CRONE

Show me any unsolicited advice I’ve issued. Ha! I’ve never given a piece of advice that was unsound. Show me, and I’ll accept the charge against me. Why do you not see anything wrong with a bunch of morgie people telling each other how to further harm themselves? Oh, that is okay, because you know your disease has to be prolonged and exacerbated in order to hang onto it. That’s how the swindlers like for you to be, too. Nice and messed up, so they can profit from it.

To be Blunt, you are so full of shit that it is obvious your self esteem is so low that you need the company of suffering people to lord it over to affirm yourself. Go take a dose of self respect and have a nap…

Show me any unsolicited advice I’ve issued. Ha! I’ve never given a piece of advice that was unsound. Show me, and I’ll accept the charge against me. Why do you not see anything wrong with a bunch of morgie people telling each other how to further harm themselves? Oh, that is okay, because you know your disease has to be prolonged and exacerbated in order to hang onto it. That’s how the swindlers like for you to be, too. Nice and messed up, so they can profit from it.

hmmmmm parts of this seem a bit driven…..to wit, “Ha! I’ve never given a peice of advice that was unsound”……
Jesus woman, are you Ghandi?

If I could give a dose of my self esteem to each morgie person who needs it, which is all of you, I would glady share it with everyone, Al. To be blunt, you’re all drowning in a sea of misery, and don’t want out of it. They’ve got you all easily brainwashed into thinking they have the power to change your lives back into whatever state you want them to return to, someday. It’s a lie.

well, what we have done to promote understanding, smelly , is to promote the understanding that you are a sham and a fraud, offering your unsolicited advice….that is the understanding I/we, she, he and thee are fostering…..
back in your hole, snake

Oh? So, explain. How am I a fraud? I have never proclaimed to be anything other than what I am. Show me this unsolicited advice. Futhermore, if it has grieved you so, you must ask yourself why that is. The only understanding you have fostered, is that you desire no understanding, no assistance, no one to care about you, and that you have something to protect.

Mary Leitao, Dr. Harvey, Dr. Stricker, Ginger Savely, all of the board members at MRF, and everyone at NMO, plus Dr. Schwartz, and any doctor on the face of the planet earth who pretends to believe in “morgellons disease”, as I had been referring to, previously, when I used the word, “swindlers”, in comment #451, and the king savior himself, Randy Wymore.

I haven’t humiliated anyone, Al. Now, what do you mean, that you are protecting yourself? How? And who do you mean you’ll defend, if you think that I have humiliated anyone? That doesn’t make any more sense to me, than you thinking I am looking for fame of some sort. I got on this blog, back in April, because I found a long overdue place to tell what “morgellons disease” really is, and I wanted to be a part of that, for anyone who was curious. The trouble began when morgie people wandered in here, and became upset. That keeps me yappin’ more. That’s all.

well, is that the strength of your retort to my offense to you today?
I need to respect my adversary, but you make the whole saga wearisome with the repetitive pontification you so clearly try to thrive on.
I think you have a vicarious obsession developing smelly….go to a GP

Al, I have said all along, if people need it, they’re welcome to it. If they can’t tell what they’re doing, or if they defend the right to not have to know what they’re doing, and they don’t mind relinquishing their power to a wolf in sheep’s clothing, there’s nothing anyone can do about that. It’s rather hard for other people who care about what’s happening to bear witness to it. You would try to reach people if you thought you could touch just one, yourself, if you were in the same position.

well yes, I actually thought a leprous stump would give me a sort of olde worlde charm, you nong!!!
Seriously you are a high school drop out wanna be, i need an intellectual equal, sometimes at least.
You are amusing for a while, sorta the detached interest a cat takes in a stuffed toy…
yes a leprous stump, sounds fine….

i know…. i’ll go see a doctor, which would make it a bout 20 by now..
ok a doctor….goodo…..
ok i’ll just ring up….
“hello?”
“yes , hello, i need to see a doctor”
“oh ok…are you ill?”
“no, but i have had pus filled sores on my arms for years”
“oh then sir we cant help you, coz that particular condition is only in your head”
“oh ok, then I’m just a self mutilating manic depressive, then?”
“yes, I’m afraid so, take this respiredone, if your arm drops off, pick it up”
“thank you doctor”
“your crazy!…next”…..

“hello doctor”
“hello crazy patient of mine…..how can i help you?”
“oh, it’s just my arms, the sore ones…”
“oh yes, i want to smother you in zinc cream and you are to leave a dressing on it for a month..”
“umm, doctor, they really hurt”
“they dont look infected to me…”
“i can feel my lymph glands are swollen..”
“rubbish, nobody has feeling there”
“i have pus suppurating from my lesions….”

Can you try focusing your attention away from your arm, and onto something else, like working a jigsaw puzzle, or something? Have you ever collected your medical records, looked them over, shared what you’ve seen in them with other doctors? Al, I’m so sorry, but I don’t know any details of what’s happening. Most people won’t open up and talk about it. I don’t know if you have lupus, leprosy, or what. I do care, though. Everyone on this blog does, believe it, or not. We care, and nobody who is under the false belief of “morgellons disease” even knows it. It is in the way, seriously, of treating what is really wrong. You could develop sepsis, if you have a serious bacterial infection. Having an enlarged spleen is not something that is just inside your head, is it?

‘hello, doctor, its al”
“sigh, yes al, what now?”
“i think my spleen is in my head, i looked, but all i got was a booger…”
“al, have you ever picked your boogers, then scratched your arms?
“no doctor, i usually do the bushmans blow…’
“hmmmmmmmmmm…”
“doctor i think there is a subcutaneous sinus in my arm”
“i wish you would go away, al”
“doctor i debride my ulcers…”
“no, crazy man, you self mutilate”
“it is hot and itchy doctor”
“of course it is you silly man, you continually excoriate”
“but doctor, what comes out is thick viscous goo…”
“al, you know goo is not an appropriate term….next”
“but doctor…..”
“next….tell the receptionist to charge for a long consult..”
“goodbye doctor”
“next…”

i also got run out of town, got sent by the local brethren to an interstate town, where I contracted these lesions on my arms in a pub via several hearty handshakes, i suspect embedded tick bites, the one on my legs….well i’m guessin they did that in the psyche ward….”next”

“hello doctor, it’s al”
“yes al?….next”
“well doctor, I think that I need a biopsy”
“i hate blood…next”
“what about quorum sensing life forms?”
“you are just fucking crazy al…next”
“can i see an infectious disease specialist? for lyme disease?”
“you tested negative for borrelia..so no, next….sigh…yawn…(remembers to kick the living shit out of the cat when he gets home, god he hates al)….next”
“but doctor, lyme disease is hard to diagnose…. they call it the great imitator…..I have all the symptoms….”
“you are mad al , thats all, try a lobotomy…next…”
“but doctor, i have lost movement in my left elbow…”
“you’re just old and fucked, al…next”
“i have a natropath, she swears i have lyme….”
“well, get her to go to medical school for years shes just crazy too….next!…get out al, you trouble making nutter!….
security!!…next!!!!….police!!!!!….al!! …STEP AWAY FROM THE SCALPEL……NEXT!!!!!…………..NEXT!!!!…..GET OUT AL YOU BASTARD…..NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!…….”
“will i make another appointment?….”
“

Okay, so you’ve had a shitload of miscommunications with doctors. There isn’t a doctor in existence, that I’m aware of, other than a crooked one, who appreciates a patient coming in and telling them what they have, or what they think they have. Only you know whether you’ve ever received word that you have an enlarged spleen. I swear to you, if you could consider an underlying cause, there is a chance that you could get the actual help you need. You have just been going about it the wrong way. What we say to doctors matters a great deal. Please read this…

Howdy, Al. Maybe, aside from what you might be telling a doctor, you may want to consider including, “Excuse me, I don’t feel you’re hearing what I’m saying to you, doctor.” (I can hear ya, now. Sorry.) Obviously, yes, I know it’s far more problematic than that. Seriously, patients can’t start off on the wrong foot by telling a doctor all about what they “think” they have wrong with them. We have to fill them in on what we “know” we have already been diagnosed with, providing that information in the pre-registration/health history forms we fill out when we see a new doctor. It’s very wise to take it upon ourselves (unless we’ve been referred, cuz then, it may already be taken care of to an extent), to collect pertinent medical records/reports/films to share with them. Their job is to hear our current symptom complaints, and to figure out what is causing them. They’re well trained.

Sure, the world is full of quack doctors and doctor imposters that are getting by with murder, literally. That’s precisely why it’s mandatory that we safeguard ourselves. Well, maybe not always, but definitely if we’re having surgery. Defintely, too…..oh, nevermind. I think you know. But, concerning surgery, we have to check their certification, ask how many of the operations they’ve performed, and get a second opinion, if we feel it’s necessary. When less than satisfied with a doctor, speak up and tell them, work through it if possible, and, if not, move along, and hope for the best next time. Doctor-hopping just ain’t right, though.

“those such as Norman, who’s even got his own blog, about us, saying that we work for the government, and that this blog is government sponsored. I said a long time ago, when accused of being a doctor, and/or of “diagnosing” over the web, that I only have a 12th grade education. It isn’t easy to understand people that see things so differently. I’ve tried to, but I don’t know how. Can you help me?”

When you’re young and so and love as we
And bewildered by the world we see
Why do people hurt us so
Only those in love would know
What a town without pity can do

If we stop to gaze upon a star
People talk about how bad we are
Ours is not an easy age
We’re like tigers in a cage
What a town without pity can do

The young have problems Many problems
We need an understanding heart
Why don’t they help us, try to help us
Before this clay and granite planet falls apart

Take these eager lips and hold me fast
I’m afraid this kind of joy can’t last
How can we keep love alive
How can anything survive
When these little minds tear you in two
What a town without pity can do

How can we keep love alive
How can anything survive
When these little minds tear you in two
What a town without pity can do

There must be lights burning brighter somewhere
Got to be birds flying higher in a sky more blue
If I can dream of a better land
Where all my brothers walk hand in hand
Tell me why, oh why, oh why can’t my dream come true

There must be peace and understanding sometime
Strong winds of promise that will blow away
All the doubt and fear
If I can dream of a warmer sun
Where hope keeps shining on everyone
Tell me why, oh why, oh why won’t that sun appear

We’re lost in a cloud
With too much rain
We’re trapped in a world
That’s troubled with pain
But as long as a man
Has the strength to dream
He can redeem his soul and fly

Deep in my heart there’s a trembling question
Still I am sure that the answer gonna come somehow
Out there in the dark, there’s a beckoning candle
And while I can think, while I can talk
While I can stand, while I can walk
While I can dream, please let my dream
Come true, right now
Let it come true right now
Oh yeah

Give me release
Witness me
I am outside
Give me peace
Heaven holds a sense of wonder
And I wanted to believe that I’d get caught up when the rage in me subsides
Passion choke the flower
Until she cries no more
Possessing all the beauty
Hungry still for more
Heaven holds a sense of wonder
And I wanted to believe that I’d get caught up when the rage in me subsides
In this white wave I am sinking in this silence
In this white wave in this silence I believe
I can’t help this longing
Comfort me
I can’t hold it all in
If you won’t let me
Heaven holds a sense of wonder
And I wanted to believe that I’d get caught up when the rage in me subsides
In this white wave
I am sinking
In this silence
In this white wave
In this silence I believe
I have seen you in this white wave you are silent
You are breathing in this white wave
I am free

“Morgellons” is the name Mary Leitao chose for what she considered to be a mysterious new illness afflicting her son. Doctors told her it was just eczema, and that the fibers she found on his lip were just lint. But she was determined it must be a novel new disease that she personally had discovered, so she set up a foundation to publicise it. Eventually, via the internet, other people join her organization, the list of symptoms constituting “Morgellons” is expanded to include these new people. Eventually the list of symptoms becomes very broad, and encompasses just about any medical condition. Doctors reject “Morgellons”, since the symptoms are explained by other diseases, and are too varied and vague to constitute a working definition of a new disease.

So out of Small and Smelly we have a total combined educational experience of a high school degree. So the authoritative angles presented by these parties should be critically understood at their face value

“Morgellons” is the name Mary Leitao chose for what she considered to be a mysterious new illness afflicting her son. Doctors told her it was just eczema, and that the fibers she found on his lip were just lint. But she was determined it must be a novel new disease that she personally had discovered, so she set up a foundation to publicise it. Eventually, via the internet, other people join her organization, the list of symptoms constituting “Morgellons” is expanded to include these new people. Eventually the list of symptoms becomes very broad, and encompasses just about any medical condition. Doctors reject “Morgellons”, since the symptoms are explained by other diseases, and are too varied and vague to constitute a working definition of a new disease.

So out of Small and Smelly we have a total combined educational experience of a high school degree. So the authoritative angles presented by these parties should be critically understood at their face value

Morgie people, embrace what you have, that’s fine with us. Listen, you have to realize we’ve never had a bird’s-eye view into it before, like “morgellons disease” has given us. I, for one, can’t help being intrigued.

smileykins Says:
October 18th, 2006 at 8:50 pm
Morgie people, embrace what you have, that’s fine with us. Listen, you have to realize we’ve never had a bird’s-eye view into it before, like “morgellons disease” has given us. I, for one, can’t help being intrigued.

What???? – well stop being intrigued and let a bit of reality bite you on the arse, its real ok.

If you would have gone to at least a junior college, they would have handed you another piece of paper and your grasp of the world would have been a little greater. But you didnt and you suck. So shut up and leave me alone. We win. Yea!

CONSUMER GUIDE: GETTING EVIDENCE-BASED TREATMENT
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ALTERNATIVE MONEY SPINNERS (Background Briefing: 15/10/2006)
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RECLAIMING IMAGINATION: ART, PSYCHOSIS AND THE CREATIVE MIND (All In The Mind: 14/10/2006)
The imagination of an artist living with schizophrenia can feel like it’s been colonised by diagnostic labels, medication and the often unforgiving and frightening contents of hallucinations or delusions. So what does it mean to reclaim imagination? Is madness a muse or a hurdle? Artists Simon Champ, James de Blas and Martin Sharp reflect on the perplexing nature of our imaginative selves.http://www.abc.net.au/rn/allinthemind/stories/2006/1759662.htm

SYNAESTHESIA (Science Show: 14/10/2006)
Some people see complex visions when they hear music. Some painters like Kandinsky have tried to have their works generate sounds in other people’s minds. Jamie Ward says there’s a nerve crossover explaining how certain stimulation can stimulate more than one sense.http://www.abc.net.au/rn/scienceshow/stories/2006/1764423.htm

TEENAGERS’ BRAINS (Science Show: 14/10/06)
Teenagers are known for lack of empathy, being impulsive, being risk-takers, and not socialising with adults. Sarah-Jayne Blackmore is investigating how these behavioural functions develop. She says that as well as hormones, we need to consider that the brain itself is changing during teenage years.http://www.abc.net.au/rn/scienceshow/stories/2006/1764412.htm

TOMATOES FIGHT ASTHMA (Catalyst: 12/10/2006)
Australia has one of the highest rates of asthma in the world with one in six children and one in nine adults with the disease. Can the humble tomato prevent asthma? That’s the focus of one Australian study while another is trialling a new vaccine – the ingredients of which includes the very things we are often told to avoid.http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s1763143.htm

ALL IN THE MIND: Placenta brain: the cognitive burden of pregnancy?
Saturday 21 October, 1.05pm, Radio National
Ever had a case of ‘placenta brain’, or ‘pregnancy stupidity’? Can carrying a foetus make you drop your cognitive bundle? Are hormones to blame, or the psychological burden of approaching mumhood?http://abc.net.au/rn/allinthemind/

THE PHILOSOPHER’S ZONE: Cricket, lovely cricket
Saturday 21 October, 1.30pm, Radio National
Philosopher Rene Descartes agonised about the relationship between the mind and the body. But what would he know? He was French – he didn’t play cricket. So what can cricket tell us about how mind, memory and body work together?http://www.abc.net.au/rn/philosopherszone/

OCKHAM’S RAZOR: Do We Have To Die?
Sunday 22 October, 8.45am, Radio National
Dr Peter Lavelle from ABC’s Health Matters discusses how, the average life span stayed constant at about 30 years until the link was made between infectious diseases and bad sanitation in the 1900s. But now in the 21st century can we use genetic engineering to manipulate our DNA to possibly live forever? If so, what sort of world would it be where no one died?http://abc.net.au/rn/ockhamsrazor/

HEALTH REPORT: Vaccines for Ebola virus and HIV
Monday 23 October, 8.30am, Radio National
A leading American vaccine researcher is developing what looks like a successful vaccine against Ebola, a highly fatal haemorrhagic fever. He claims that the same technique they’ve used for Ebola, could work for an AIDS vaccine.http://abc.net.au/rn/healthreport/

CATALYST: Smart drugs
Thursday 26 October, 8pm, ABC TV
It has been decades in the making – the revolution of smart drugs called “monoclonal antibodies”. Hundreds of thousands of people suffering from chronic disorders such as rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis and breast cancer are having their lives transformed. How do they work and how successful are they? Catalyst puts the new wave of wonder drugs under the microscope.http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/

“Morgellons” is the name Mary Leitao chose for what she considered to be a mysterious new illness afflicting her son. Doctors told her it was just eczema, and that the fibers she found on his lip were just lint. But she was determined it must be a novel new disease that she personally had discovered, so she set up a foundation to publicise it. Eventually, via the internet, other people join her organization, the list of symptoms constituting “Morgellons” is expanded to include these new people. Eventually the list of symptoms becomes very broad, and encompasses just about any medical condition. Doctors reject “Morgellons”, since the symptoms are explained by other diseases, and are too varied and vague to constitute a working definition of a new disease.

This blog was designed to debunk morgellons. There is no Morgellons disease, but Morgies have DOP, like their doctors said. Some have other mental illnesses on top of that. If they are physically sick, they have other known diseases, not Morgellons, nothing mysterious, nothing unusual happening regarding fibers.

I prefer calling it whatever people legitimately had wrong with them before Mary Leitao’s sick mind conjured it up and took all of the registrant’s problems and threw them ALL into her made-up case definition.

smileykins Says:
October 18th, 2006 at 9:49 pm
I prefer calling it whatever people legitimately had wrong with them before Mary Leitao’s sick mind conjured it up and took all of the registrant’s problems and threw them ALL into her made-up case definition.

Shut up, quit whinging about Mary, leave her alone for gods sake, ring her and talk to her if you are so passionate about what she did.

I’m glad for what she did, I don’t think I would have survived until now.

Yes your honour – this is the only web/blog site that claims there is no such thing as Morgellons ok. Well listen lady pay me a visit in person, then we will talk about it some more, whilst you are eating my fibers, have a nice day.

Yes your honour – this is the only web/blog site that claims there is no such thing as Morgellons ok. Well listen lady pay me a visit in person, then we will talk about it some more, whilst you are eating my fibers, have a nice day.

My question was, how has this site stuffed up anything for anyone?

But, never mind, I can see that you are unable to process logic this evening.

“Morgellons” is the name Mary Leitao chose for what she considered to be a mysterious new illness afflicting her son. Doctors told her it was just eczema, and that the fibers she found on his lip were just lint. But she was determined it must be a novel new disease that she personally had discovered, so she set up a foundation to publicise it. Eventually, via the internet, other people join her organization, the list of symptoms constituting “Morgellons” is expanded to include these new people. Eventually the list of symptoms becomes very broad, and encompasses just about any medical condition. Doctors reject “Morgellons”, since the symptoms are explained by other diseases, and are too varied and vague to constitute a working definition of a new disease.

You can all shut ya traps, research has been done, there is proof, so I hope you choke on it.

How is hoping we choke on anything going to help you? You can’t even help yourself, and you’re thrilled that you can’t. You know there are patient advocates in your region. Oh, but no…..you’d have to convince them of “morgellons disease”, first, and stay in a state of limbo. Right? You don’t want to get to anything real that might be going on with your health. Yeah, that makes a helluva lotta sense to other people.

How is hoping we choke on anything going to help you? You can’t even help yourself, and you’re thrilled that you can’t. You know there are patient advocates in your region. Oh, but no…..you’d have to convince them of “morgellons disease”, first, and stay in a state of limbo. Right? You don’t want to get to anything real that might be going on with your health. Yeah, that makes a helluva lotta sense to other people.

Oh hello dickhead – I have sent 3,00000,00000,00000 emails to the media about Morgellons, sorry I am too ill to turn up in person with a Morgie package. What do you suggest bright spark??

You think you know it all bitch, you don’t, you are showing who you are you know, and I don’t like it one bit.

You hide behind your computer, well I sit behind my computer, but I am also very active in other things I do, so shut ya trap.

So out of Small and Smelly we have a total combined educational experience of a high school degree. So the authoritative angles presented by these parties should be critically understood at their face value

“Morgellons” is the name Mary Leitao chose for what she considered to be a mysterious new illness afflicting her son. Doctors told her it was just eczema, and that the fibers she found on his lip were just lint. But she was determined it must be a novel new disease that she personally had discovered, so she set up a foundation to publicise it. Eventually, via the internet, other people join her organization, the list of symptoms constituting “Morgellons” is expanded to include these new people. Eventually the list of symptoms becomes very broad, and encompasses just about any medical condition. Doctors reject “Morgellons”, since the symptoms are explained by other diseases, and are too varied and vague to constitute a working definition of a new disease.

So out of Small and Smelly we have a total combined educational experience of a high school degree. So the authoritative angles presented by these parties should be critically understood at their face value

You think you know it all bitch, you don’t, you are showing who you are you know, and I don’t like it one bit.

I asked you what terminal illness you’ve been diagnosed with. You’re dying, remember? You say it all the time, off & on, so I want to know. No riddles, I just want to know. Since you bring it up so much, it’s not unusual to expect it’s open for questionihg.

So out of Small and Smelly we have a total combined educational experience of a high school degree. So the authoritative angles presented by these parties should be critically understood at their face value

“Morgellons” is the name Mary Leitao chose for what she considered to be a mysterious new illness afflicting her son. Doctors told her it was just eczema, and that the fibers she found on his lip were just lint. But she was determined it must be a novel new disease that she personally had discovered, so she set up a foundation to publicise it. Eventually, via the internet, other people join her organization, the list of symptoms constituting “Morgellons” is expanded to include these new people. Eventually the list of symptoms becomes very broad, and encompasses just about any medical condition. Doctors reject “Morgellons”, since the symptoms are explained by other diseases, and are too varied and vague to constitute a working definition of a new disease.

“Morgellons” is the name Mary Leitao chose for what she considered to be a mysterious new illness afflicting her son. Doctors told her it was just eczema, and that the fibers she found on his lip were just lint. But she was determined it must be a novel new disease that she personally had discovered, so she set up a foundation to publicise it. Eventually, via the internet, other people join her organization, the list of symptoms constituting “Morgellons” is expanded to include these new people. Eventually the list of symptoms becomes very broad, and encompasses just about any medical condition. Doctors reject “Morgellons”, since the symptoms are explained by other diseases, and are too varied and vague to constitute a working definition of a new disease.

So out of Small and Smelly we have a total combined educational experience of a high school degree. So the authoritative angles presented by these parties should be critically understood at their face value

My doctor doesn’t listen” is one of the most common complaints Americans have about their medical care, according to research from Boston’s Picker Institute.

Small wonder. Given that a typical appointment lasts about 15 minutes and doctors interrupt patients, on average, 23 seconds after they begin to explain what’s wrong, a medical visit is not exactly a relaxed chat over a cup of tea. But you can get more out of this key relationship if you plan ahead. Here are seven tips on talking to your doctor, based on current research and on the advice of doctors concerned with this aspect of medical care.

1. Prepare for your visit. Doctors rarely have time these days to behave as if they’ve stepped out of a Norman Rockwell painting. But many people walk into the examining room with nothing more concrete to offer than a vague complaint that they’re not feeling well. To make the best use of the appointment, write down all of your concerns beforehand in order, from most urgent to least, and take the list along with you.

do u know what to do with you, should some one care to?
well buddy, first u’d get your asshole firehosed out then a conduit with barbed wire inside would be reamed in, the we pull out the conduit….capice?…have a nice day you cruel cunt

Gillian, when you said that people don’t need to learn how to communicate with doctors:

Nope – disagree, people should not have to learn this. Those idiots learn when they are training to be a doctor, they get PAID not to listen to the patient.

STOP – blaming the patient, simple.

I’m really trying to grasp your concept!! Are you *separating* people who believe in “morgellons disease” from the rest of us? Meaning, that when you say things that are out of the ordinary, doctors don’t pay attention to it, and, by “blaming the patient”, are you meaning when they recognize self-inflicted excoriations?

People are people, Gillian, and the world works the same ways for us all. Carrying in literature on “morgellons disease” is not a good way of presenting to a doctor, nor is insisting that one has it.

“hello doctor, it’s al…”
‘oh jesus, fuck me!!!’”..yes al, how are you?….”(sigh, grate teeth)
“well, doctor, smilykins thought my enlarged spleen might be all in my head…”
‘oh, jesus fucking christ!!..what next?’”oh?…..”
“well, doctor, i was gonna take a look, but i got my head stuck up my ass when i tried, now people are callin me TC, coz i look like a huncback..”
“al, come in, well straighten this out for you…”
moral; nobody wants anybody to look like TC

mate, i have a litany of evidence of blase malpractice from doctors over seven years…..some are gonna get their ringitus sued…
what i, and others require from you and your arrogant, simpleton,cripple sidekick, TC, is to show some compassion, without your grandstanding attitude.
How could you even think of marrying an abusive cretan like johnnycottonseed?

now listen to me you obtuse peice of shit.
I have an open mind as to a/ the etiology, b/ the nomenclature and c/mortality of the symptoms I have. So I call upon you to desist from infering I’m a believer of “morgellons”.
What ails me hurts like all fuck, feels fatal, and coincidently, I just happen to have all the symptoms listed in case definition, so sweet heart I got something wrong I couldnt give a tinkers cuss as to what its called, I just hope to God it aint contagious.
Fuck you Smily, get a fucken life.:)

You call upon you me to desist from infering that you’re a believer of “morgellons”, Al? Well, I didn’t know that you weren’t. As far as you, coincidently, having all the symptoms listed in case definition….

#612 smileykins Says:
October 18th, 2006 at 9:49 pm

I prefer calling it whatever people legitimately had wrong with them before Mary Leitao’s sick mind conjured it up and took all of the registrants’ problems and threw them ALL into her made-up case definition.

“Morgellons” is the name Mary Leitao chose for what she considered to be a mysterious new illness afflicting her son. Doctors told her it was just eczema, and that the fibers she found on his lip were just lint. But she was determined it must be a novel new disease that she personally had discovered, so she set up a foundation to publicise it. Eventually, via the internet, other people join her organization, the list of symptoms constituting “Morgellons” is expanded to include these new people. Eventually the list of symptoms becomes very broad, and encompasses just about any medical condition. Doctors reject “Morgellons”, since the symptoms are explained by other diseases, and are too varied and vague to constitute a working definition of a new disease.

Morgie people, and Al, what prevents you from caring to acknowledge skin properties, how the immune system works, and what diagnoses you really have in your medical records? Can you explain? You seem almost proud of this.

The information contained in this blog should NOT be used as a substitute for the advice of an appropriately qualified and licensed physician or other health care provider. The information provided here is for educational and informational purposes only. In no way should it be considered as offering medical advice. Please check with a physician if you suspect you are ill.

We noticed a comment you posted on the Fiber Disease Forum. If we understood it correctly, you think you’ve been banned from Michael Watch.

Sometimes the blog automatically bans a name when it thinks they’re a spammer. Sometimes this occurs if too posts are posted in rapid succession. But sometimes it doesn’t.

If you’ve been banned I suspect this is what happened. It can easily be fixed by emailing Michael. If he doesn’t respond quickly it’s because he’s out of town for a while. He said that he’ll be on just a limited amount for a while.

You’re sick. You don’t want any help. That’s fine. No one’s forcing you. But what really makes you SICK is the fact that you don’t want anyone else to be helped either. What you think or say has no effect on me. I could care less about your opinions. Any one with any degree of sense knows that you are mentally ill.

So smelly & small go lookin at the Fiber Disease forum?? What the hell for hey??

Smelly you admitted you have Morgellons and so does the rest of the world, why don’t YOU tell us all what is it, since you seem to be able to tell us how we should live our lives and how we should talk to our doctors.

Yes you big mouth, you need to go take a look in the mirror, you think we are all as dumb as you and your internet lover.

If you got banned, Al. It’s no wonder. But it’s different with London. You can’t hardly form a sentence without sick obcenities. It’s obvious that you need help. Now, I’m not going to listen to you idiotic remarks. You definitely have a personality disorder.

Don’t you realize when she is being facetious? How many times has she told you there’s no such thing as morgellons. Goodness Gracious. No, she doesn’t have Morgellons. Neither do you, and neither does Al.

oh do i appear unsound, what about you you rude cunt, what is your excuse? ya cripple!

I had previously said, “It isn’t easy to understand people that see things so differently. I’ve tried to, but I don’t know how. Can you help me? I have tried to be nice, and I honestly am concerned, and want to know about your conditions. What have you done towards promoting understanding?”

Define “compassion”. We have regressed to your level to try breaking through your barriers of communication. Do you think you’re supplying something to promote any understanding of what your problems are, aside from the obvious?

I explained. She was being facetious because you asked a STUPID question. She’s told you a thousand times, there is no Morgellons, then you asked her if she had it. My God!! But according to the MRF’s case definition everyone has Morgellons. Of course, the MRF’s case definition is meaningless.

Any phone number you may happen to have. You said you had my phone number, but you don’t. It’s been changed, and you’ll never get my new one, no matter how hard you try. No, i don’t want to phone either one of you. Why the hell would I want to do that?

Morgie people, and Al, what prevents you from caring to acknowledge skin properties, how the immune system works, and what diagnoses you really have in your medical records? Can you explain? You seem almost proud of this.

Bzzzzt. Nobody answered? The answer is: “morgellons disease”, the answer for everything, so there’s no solution to anything. We’re hanging with ya, giving it our best shot, trying to communicate near the same level as what you all are. Walking away from someone isn’t “compassion”….is it?

The only thing you’re gonna see it what the devil shows you. You don’t have any discernment. Neither of us are crippled, physically, mentally, emotionally, or spiritually. That’s a hell of a lot more than I can say about you.

How long have Gillian, Al, and Norman, been like this? Will any of the three of you answer? I know I have been trying to pacify your obsessive questions by answering things you’ve asked of me. But, the three of you are the ones with the agenda, though, of convincing others that you have something that either is “morgellons disease”, or whatever you’re preferring to call it. Are you not? So, why do you avoid answering questions to try to promote understanding among people, concerning what you have?

TC can answer for me anytime, Al, but here, I’ll pacify you again….

#538 Gillian Says:
October 18th, 2006 at 4:56 pm

Smileykins – Do YOU have Morgellons

#540 smileykins Says:
October 18th, 2006 at 5:03 pm

Sure. I was born with it. The entire world has it.

Can you explain the reason she didn’t know I was being facetious? Have you been diagnosed with a terminal illness, Gillian? If you have, I am so sorry.

see you are just a puppet too…
I goad you to answer, and you answer.
Well, now I tell you to SIT and STAY
good boy, I think after a while, i can take
the feral out of you.
God i lovemaking you two jump through hoops.
OK TC, little pup/puppet,
lemme ask you this;
Whats your excuse?
YOU LITTLE BASTARD

You’re a very confused person, Al. We would like to help you by seeing if we can figure out what’s wrong with your skin. But, if we did, it wouldn’t be for the purpose of replacing advice from a doctor. It would be just to help get you on the right track to recovery. We don’t hate you. We get disgusted because you say bad things about us when we try to help.

ANSWER ME, OR SHUT THE FUCK UP & GO AWAY AND DROWN IN A PUTRID PILE OF DOG VOMIT!!!

Golly. Now see, to me, that just doesn’t “feel right”. How can we communicate with a morgie person? There is no way. Yet, they feel that people think there’s something going on with them that they declare “isn’t”. It is, y’all. Ya just can’t wake up and realize it.

I know. Nobody else will do it for people like you, Gillian, and Norman, in your daily lives. You need to talk to a therapist, all three of you. You don’t see other “morgellons believers” trying to fit in on this debunking blog, so you’re all three, at least, trying to work your ways through it.

I don’t care if you answer any questions or not. If you want help, you will answer. If you don’t, you won’t. I don’t lose any sleep because you’re sick. I’d like to help you, because I’m a compassionate person. But it’s entirely up to you. You don’t have any other business here. You havn’t made anyone look bad, but yourself. You can’t hurt us.

I’m just here coz i love a fight
sit down small, stop sniffing smellys bottom,
outside!!!you two remind me of dogs at a dog show, heckles up, noses in the air, sniff , scratch, very irritating, but then i say, its ok al, the are the ugly 2%of americans……u aint all like this are ya?

We don’t believe that Morgellons is a real medical condition, and we have lots of very good reasons for that belief. We have posted those reasons. I don’t know whether or not you’ve read the entire blog, or whether you’ve understood us. You’re free to think what you want to about morgellons. I’ve personally been studying Morgellons and it’s so-called sufferers for going on 5 years now. I don’t think anyone knows as much about Morgellons as Smileykins and I. If they do, they damn sure don’t post it.

would a serious researcher/ doctor allow himself to be verbally shredded on here?
AS I said to Smelly, she aint gonna find fame here, neither are you small.

And fuck me, you know “all about morgellons”…but you surely then know every thing about nothing? ( well, you keep on saying it don’t exist)
In your above post you present as grandiose, and i must say slightly unhinged.

There’s people that are approaching death from other illnesses, and refuse to take their needed medications because people have convinced them that they have Morgellons. Now, you may be here because you love a fight, but if anyone dies, for the reason I’ve stated, then you, AL, are an accomplice to Murder. Do you really want to kill your Morgies. That’s exactly what is happening. Tnink about it.

Gillian doesn’t like me to, as she said, speak in riddles, or however she put it. Al’s accused me flowery prose. Norman, oh, Norman. I’m as far down on your levels as I can go, so can we agree that all three of you are mentally ill? TC and I are not going into “morgellons disease” forums, because we know what all the people there are like, just the same as the rest of the world viewing any of them. Should we just leave you to yourselves, to revel in your madness? Come on, you wouldn’t be outside of the usual forums if you weren’t trying to climb out of your misery. You know that.

That’s what crazy people think about normal people, Al. We both know that there’s very little chance of any Morgie taking sound advice. We didn’t come here to help Morgies. We came here so that others don’t become caught in the Morgellons trap. That’s all it is, a trap. No, I’m not grandiose.

You’re a smart person, but you’ve gotten caught in the same trap that I got caught in. I was caught in it for a long time. We have nothing to gain other than the satisfaction of helping others. We’re on no one’s payroll, and we answer to no one. We’re law abiding citizens, that’s all. But we know exactly what we are talking about. Now, like I said, you’re a smart person, but you are wrong about a lot of things you say. Of course, I don’t think you believe all the things you say. But you need to wise up, then you can start helping people too. You can help us, but you have to get out of that quicksand you’re in first.

Australia needs a stable person that knows the truth. Of course these people are sick. But they have things like Rickettsiosis, Lyme Disease, Sarcoidosis, MS, Eczema, Folliculitus, Krohn’s Syndrome, etc. Not morgellons. Rarely anything unknown or mysterious.

I definitely had bizarre symptoms. I was run down and on drugs. I was really sick from malnutrition and dehydration. I only have one kidney, and it was hardly functioning. I was taking a lot of meth and my immune system was compromised. My body was so toxic that my normal bacterial flor was trying to excape the toxicity. My lower half of my face was covered in oozing sores, and real freaky things seemed to be happening. When I quit the meth, my immune system restarted itself and I pulled out of it. Later I realized that a lot of what was happening was hallucinations. Other things were because of the natural flora being drugged. I also had infection in my face, both bacterial and fungal alternately. Smileykin’s wasn’t taking drugs, but she had heat exhaustion and her kidneys weren’t functioning good either. In her case and mine, because of the kidneys failing, the toxic compounds, her’s natural, and mine both the natural and the ones i was adding through the meth, started coming out of our skin. All kinds of shit came out of us. Fiber shot out of my face and stood at lengths up to 5 inches. This wasn’t an hallucination. She also suffered from heat exhaustion at the same time, and passed beau coup kidney stones. She had fever and was hallucinating also. She pulled out by forcing herself to eat food that looked like it was full of worms. This was an hallucination, but she forced herself through it and started taking selenium and a few vitamins. But, Al, we have studied numerous other people and we know that they are suffering from a variety of problems. Your’s may be like some of the others, or they may be unique. A lot can be determined by the results of your blood tests. All we can “possibly” do is steer you onto the right track, so that you can make suggestions or requests of your doctor. Smileykins knows way way more about medical things than I do. But we’ve both willing to try to help.

Smileykins lost the skin off of almost her entire body. She also has rh factor in her blood and she’s allergic to a lot of things. She’s disabled because of a neck operation, but she’s very, very, smart.

The information on the link you posted is DEFINITELY bogus. I don’t dispute Wymore’s research, but I don’t think all of the fibers that people have are the same, and I don’t believe Morgellons exists. You have something, but not Morgellons. Schwartz is exploiting people.

I feel that some morgies are on meth, but I don’t think that about you or Al. I believe that about Mickelson and some others, though. The thing that was alike about me and Smiley was that both our bodies were highly toxic. Her’s was toxic because her kidneys weren’t functioning. My was toxic because of that, and the fact that I just have one kidney, and the fact that I was taking a lot of meth. You don’t have to take meth to become toxic. All you have to do it have a problem with your kidney or liver. Like I said, people have VARIOUS medical problems. Each person has to be treated on an individual basis.

man, i got a thickened, softish scab yhat feels like it 1/2 inch deep, it always throbs, i use medipulve when it weeps, yo dry it, and whatever i can find, when it is hard, to soften it, under the scab is a cluster of little pustules, tightly clung together, from which this red viscous goo hangs off, in a stringy, fibrous fasion, turns a milky white when immersed in water, same on my left calf, cmon guys, how then to best detox?

It’s of the UTMOST importance that you leave those scabs alone. Keep the lesions clean. Do not scratch them. Do not raise them up to look under them. The things you see underneath them are normal considering the fact that they have been exacerbated.

It’s also important that you see your doctor about the lupus and take your medication. Discuss with him the possibility of it being of the systemic variety. Discuss your “present” symptoms with him, making note of any changes since he first diagnosed you.

You accuse us of exploiting you. For what? Have we asked you for any money? Have we pushed any products? Just what the hell are we trying to get from you. I’ll tell you. All we’ve ever wanted was information so we could try to help you. You ask questions, but you never hear our answers. You ask them over and over and over, and most of them we have answered several times. In the same post that you ask for info, you call us assholes, and imply that we have started this non-disease you call Morgellons. What do you think, that we are microbiologists with labs in our basements. Just who do you think we work for? We’ve already told you that we don’t work for anyone or represent anyone. Why do you keep asking the same things over and over? We’ve answered you. We aren’t going to change our story. The truth doesn’t change. You can tell just by looking at that website that it’s bogus. But it doesn’t matter what any scientist, doctor, or researcher says. There is no such thing as Morgellons. Have you forgotten about the insane woman that started it all, or what her doctors said about her. Havn’t you seen how Dr. Squirts has changed his story, over and over. Our reasons for what we believe are posted all over this blog. Read Michael original posts if you don’t want to go through all the replies that we’ve posted. We have told you the truth, but you do not accept it. I don’t know why you want Morgellons to be a disease so badly. Well, I supposed I do. But all your wishing isn’t going to make it so. I’m tired of answering the same old questions over and over. Goodnight.

On morgie message boards, normal conversation is almost prohibited. Who could foresee that any morgie people were going to be participants on a debunking blog? Here, we CAN communicate openly, but look at the communication barriers. Maybe that’s why it’s discouraged in morgie forums. We all know that people can’t be talked out delusions, but there’s something other than that going on here.

Let’s say you got a mosquito bite, pimple or other injury led to itching, picking, scratching and worsening of the original injury, for no particular reason at all.

It’s not compulsive, you can (and do) stop itching and digging at it as soon as you realize what you are doing and that it’s not helpful, and it does not become a bad habit nor lead to an ongoing, nonhealing or infected sore.

Also, you didn’t originally create the injury on purpose by using a knife or matches or chemicals. You didn’t do it to try to get sympathy or to impress your friends or doctor with a “strange weird skin disease” or to try to pull an insurance scam, or just because you are under a lot of stress (such as a divorce).

By all means, it was triggered by an intial injury that you did not intentionally inflict on yourself; you know you made the injury worse yourself, and you haven’t tried to pass it off as an “unknown” or mysterious new skin disease.

All in all, that’s very likely just a normal thing, and not dermatitis artefacta or a neurotic excoriation. You really don’t need to have your head, or your motives, examined.

If you’ve only done a normal thing or two like this, and nothing more serious, yet you’re convinced you have dermatitis artefacta or a neurotic excoriation anyway, then you might want to read up about hypchondriasis or anxiety disorder.

Note: “By all means, it was triggered by an intial injury that you did not intentionally inflict on yourself; you know you made the injury worse yourself, and you haven’t tried to pass it off as an “unknown” or mysterious new skin disease.”

If anyone hasn’t received a diagnosis of DOP, but this, instead, it is a very serious problem. None of these diagnoses is “morgellons disease”. There-is-no-such-thing-as “morgellons disease”! Vulnerable people have fallen victim to this HUGE LIE, and they’re being used, UNETHICALLY, by unscrupulous “doctors”.

Michael’ blog is FULL of information that is not/can not/will not be utilized by some people. That excerpt & link, above, is from the topic, “Morgellons is not Delusions of Parasitosis”. All of his topics have hi-lighted words to click onto, and anyone can read, extensively, on numerous skin topics.

What do you think about the Dr. Hildegarde Straninger report? It seems to me that as an environmentalist she has an agenda and is using Morgies to fulfill it. As you probably know, the 57 year old is Greema (Jan). She has had both knee joints replaced. I would think that if she has high density polyethylene or silicone in the nearby tissues that it is probably material that has migrated from the artificial joints.

It’s hard to tell which patient they are referring to in the article. They seem to switch back and forth from one to the other. Of course I belive that the part about the Morgies fibers being high density polyethylene envelopes is total BS. If not, then I think it would be an isolated case. What do you think?

I have been asked to comment about the results in a manuscript, by Dr. H. Staninger, that discuss Morgellons Disease. First, I am very happy that other professional researchers are involving themselves in trying understand this perplexing disease. There are 3 central points that I will comment on:

1) The composition of the outer casing is made up of high density polyethylene (HDPE) fibers. The Morgellons fibers that I have examined do not seem to have an outer casing. The red and blue fibers seem to be homogenous throughout. We have concentrated on the red & blue fibers because they have been the largest point of contention from the medical community. As many will point out, “We don’t grow red & blue fibers.” Agreed, we do not. On the other hand, the red & blue fibers ARE most definitely present, even under unbroken, unscarred and non-lesioned skin. That is why the colored fibers have been the focus of research here at OSU-CHS. The red and blue fibers can be placed in incredibly harsh solvents and detergents, placed in oxidizing and reducing environments and even heated to near boiling in these liquids with no change in the macro- or microscopic appearance of the fibers. Some of the solvent/temperature combinations would readily break down HDPE, but we did not observe this. If the red & blue fibers were encased with HDPE either the FTIR spectroscopy or the gas chromatography would have easily detected this, as polyethylene materials, whether high density or low density are in common organic compounds and in all of the databases. The gas chromatograph experiments heated the fibers to ~1,400 F and this is many hundreds of degrees higher than the boiling temperature of HDPE, but no volatile organics were given off that would indicate HDPE. Now, I am in no way dismissing the results of the manuscript in question. There are many different fibers that have been described, some of which I have seen, and it is possible that a different type of fiber was analyzed and found to contain HDPE. Because our formal research is in such preliminary stages, including the development of an epidemiology study, there is also the possibility that Morgellons Disease may have more than one causative agent involved. I have no reason to think that, but it remains a possibility.

2) The use of HDPE throughout the nanotechnology world to encapsulate viral genetic material. I am definitely no expert on this topic. In trying to understand some of the difficult to comprehend aspects of Morgellons Disease I have read some literature on the topic of nanotechnology. I am not aware of the widespread use of HDPE for the purpose mentioned in the manuscript. There were 2 references in the manuscript for the widespread use of HDPE for this purpose (21 & 22). Unfortunately, #21 is self-referencing the manuscript and #22 is a web-link that I could not get to work, so I was not able to view the basis author’s contention on this matter. A quick pubmed search did not reveal any papers that discussed this topic. Someone who works in the nano-technology world would be better qualified than me to address this point. It may well be commonly used, but until references can be obtained, it is impossible to comment on in a proper fashion.

3) The silica/silicon connection. I am neither a pathologist nor a histologist, and so I would not recognize the differences silica or silicon from diamonds. For me, looking at the images meant very little due to my lack of any basic experience on this subject. As with all science, once other labs will need to replicate the results that are presented. I believe that this paper has (or will be, I’m not sure) submitted to a pathology journal. I am sure that one or more reviewers of the manuscript will have histology experience and hopefully some experience with silicon/silica damage to tissue.

I hope that Dr. Staninger and other scientists will continue to work on various aspects of Morgellons Disease. The Morgellons population is suffering greatly and many more hands are needed to get to the bottom of this mystery and devise a strategy that will offer an effective and definitive cure.

Please excuse any typos; writing a semi-coherent response at 5:55 AM with only 1 cup of coffee is not easy an easy task!

Sincerely,

Randy …’

Yes, the Morgellons community is suffering greatly. And what is prolonging and amplifying their suffering?

What is prolonging and amplifying their suffering? That’s a tough one.

Oh, I know! I know! The US government has infected these chosen people, through what amounts to an act of bioterrorism, from spraying bacteriophages on our food crops. All the doctors are playing dumb, running scared, and wanting to dope all of them up with mind-altering drugs, because the medical community has been bought off by big pharma.

Ooops! Had my safety helmet off there for a minute.

Otay. It’s back on now. Of course, the lie of morgellons is to blame, but I think that even if it hadn’t been created, a lot of these people would still have gone on, just as they are, just as people with these particular types of conditions always have.

This isn’t nice to say, but these quack doctors should be _______ and __________ed for playing along with them like they are, and messing further with their fragile minds, in my opinion.

It’s always troubled me, a great deal, how morgellons’ believers, in general, despise, and misinterpret, well-meaning intentions, and choose to latch onto the things that they do. These particular statements are helping me understand why there is such a terrible communication problem.

Cognitive and experimental psychology suggest that persons with delusions selectively attend to available information, make conclusions on the basis on insufficient information, attribute negative events to external personal causes, and have difficulty in envisaging other’s intentions and motivations (Fennig, 2005).

Conway et al (2002) reported that patients with delusional disorder required less data to make probability decisions compared with normal controls. Despite using less data, they were as certain as controls regarding the accuracy of their decisions.

Psychodynamic theories suggest that paranoia is a protective response to stress or conflict that represents a threat to self-esteem or to the self (eg, unacceptable homosexual impulses, fear of the unknown, immigration) (Fennig, 2005).

“…devise a strategy that will offer an effective and definitive cure”, he says. Well, now, what does a person call what he has, leading him into making such a bold and promising statement?

Oops. Excuse me. It’s me again, with just a wee little of what I think about that “revealing” report. Insofar as the knee joint replacement surgeries that one of the test subjects has had, it sounds like the knee in question seriously needs an orthopedic surgeon’s attention. Of course, I’d expected to get the full report on both female test subjects (oh yeah, sure I did), when I clicked onto where it said we would, but that didn’t tell me anything. (Well, it said that freaked out stuff of course). Also, in my opinion, infrared light therapy just ain’t quite gonna cut it, if what the one lady has is this. Maybe she’ll be willing to come here and open up to us about it.

E. ADVERSE EFFECTS

1. Wear of the polyethylene articulating surfaces of the tibial and patellar components has been reported following knee replacement. Higher rates of wear may be initiated by particles of cement, metal, or other debris that can cause abrasion of the articulating surfaces. Higher rates of wear may shorten the useful life of the prosthesis, and lead to early revision surgery to replace the worn prosthetic components. Wear may cause polyethylene articulating surfaces to separate from metal backed components. Wear can lead to the increased presence of particulate debris in the joint with associated
histological reaction to that debris.

2. With all joint replacements, asymptomatic, localized, progressive bone resorption (osteolysis) may occur around the prosthetic components as a consequence of foreign-body reaction to particulate matter. Particulate matter is generated by interaction between components, as well as between the components and bone, primarily through wear mechanisms of adhesion, abrasion, and fatigue. Secondarily, particles can also be generated by third-body wear. Osteolysis can lead to pain, swelling, and future complications necessitating the removal and replacement of prosthetic components. See Important Physician Information Section below for more information.

3. Although rare, metal sensitivity reactions in patients following joint replacement have been reported. Implantation of foreign material in tissues can result in cellular reactions involving lymphocytes, macrophages, and fibroblasts.

4. Peripheral neuropathies have been reported following knee joint surgery. Subclinical nerve damage has been reported, and may occur as the result of surgical trauma.

Has anyone heard of the upcoming movie, “Bug”, which opens in theaters December 1st? It’s a film about a Gulf War veteran and a lonely divorcee, who hole up together in a motel and fall in love while contending with an apparent infestation of microscopic bugs. The story addresses issues of domestic violence, conspiracy theories and schizophrenia. The tagline of the film is, “Paranoia is contagious.”

I really feel for morgie people. They claim they don’t want to be shut out by others, but they are the very ones doing the shutting out, themselves. By and large, they want absolutely no outside communication on their message boards, but to just be left alone in their misery. It’s so hard to understand why they have as much trouble understanding other people, as other people have understanding them, but it is undeniable.

It’s interesting how the latest Morgellons Board (Cliff Mikleson’s “Morgellons Group”) is billed as “Totally Open” and “You can talk about anything here”. Yet now their policy is:

“It is the concensus of the members here that if
you believe that Morgellons Victims are suffering from Delusional Parasitosis – your efforts are better spent joining the group at MorgellonsWatch.com.
Please do not pester us with this.
Your posts will be deleted, and if you persist, you will be banned.”

That board has now devolved into a mix of Chemtrails, mysticism, conspiracy, alien skulls, etc. It’s very sad.

Yeah, and morgies’ Golden Rule has always seemed to be so different, too. Comments are deleted from that message board, if you just don’t talk-their-talk, without so much as even the slightest trace of DOP being alluded to, whatsoever, in the least, though. Some morgie people there, don’t pull any punches, and go so far as to state that they desire nobody’s presence unless they are sufferers of the same affliction. It’s really like a parallel universe, and impossible to relate to them, but they obviously want no form of understanding to even be attempted between other people and themselves.

I’d even read a recent comment from one ill person that seemed to notice that they’d finally gotten some relief, from itching, when they’d decided to try their particular mood-stabilizing med, that they weren’t taking, too. The person had asked for some feedback, and it looked as though they’d gotten talked right out of it, by some others.

These people apparently only want communication they can relate to. I guess I can sort of understand that much, almost. But, the stuff that they’re into, though, is far from being conducive to their state of well being, of course. And, yes, it IS terribly, terribly sad.

It’s my understanding, that the moderator of that particular message board, is supposed to be a master of transpersonal psychology. In dealing with morgie people, that’s obviously been cast aside. This person was, at one time, a licensed minister of the Fellowship of Christ International, but claims to no longer be. (A rather popular doctor, who is occasionally a guest speaker on rense. com, is listed as one of the Fellowship of Christ International’s currently licensed ministers.) I don’t know what that is, even, nor who is what, nor when, where, why, nor, how. I guess this person is not with them anymore, though.

The The Fellowship of Christ International’s Stand Against Cults:

The Fellowship of Christ International takes a firm and bold stand against all cults. Any organization, no matter what their teachings or denominational or religious affiliation, no matter how historically, theologically, or doctrinally sound or accurate, if they take away a person’s God-given ability of freedom of choice, tells an individual how to run their life, claims sole-authority over a person’s life and how they lead it, and/or claims to be the sole proprietor of the truth, lies about their history, teachings, and beliefs, is in our opinion, a cult and should be avoided at all costs.

I apologize for doing this here, MG, but there is continuing confusion in the morgie community, I see, pertaining to something that was most recently expressed in the Oklahoma Gazette article’s comments’ section. I know that more eyes view your blog than anywhere else, and I hope you will forgive me. Tall Cotton’s former drug use has never, ever, been “used against him”. He is the sole person who came forth with the fact that he’d once been addicted. Morgie people completely fail understanding this reality, and the concept that when a person has freed themselves through the truth, that lies from others are nothing.

Clarification: Did “Morgellons” cause their mental impairment, leading to delusional thought patterns, or did preexisting mental impairments give rise to their delusions? One thing is for sure, there is no Morgellons.

If you explain the connection to the argument, then I’d probably let it stand – what point were you trying to make by posting Elvis Presley’s performance of “My Way”? But just posting link after link to music videos is essentially spam, and I’ll treat it as such.

NORMAN!!! Oh, I have missed you, and Al too. In that above quote, as I recall, I had responded to something that Al had said in a comment. I don’t know how you concluded that I’d claimed to not be a Christian. I am. With karma mentioned so often, I’d asked, not too long ago, whether you were a Buddhist or Hindu, but you didn’t answer me. This doesn’t have much of anything to do with “morgellons disease”, though, does it? (Neither does a person’s level of education, hehe.) Hey, neither does this, but since I like you so much, and have been concerned as to how you and your mom are doing…

Guys, it’s apparent that there’s a component of anxiety, over several things that you see as threats from living as fellow inhabitants of our great planet. Speaking with a professional about those fears might help you live much more comfortably, and they can help you decide if any anxiety medication is needed too. Lots of people, for different reasons, aren’t able to apply logic to things. There’s nothing wrong with that. But it is wrong when predacious people see that vulnerability and capitalize on it!!!