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Originally Posted by Borgoguy

In all seriousness problems will always exist and like every serious issue everyone needs to contribute, people need to be kinder, we need more attention put on mental health issues, and yes, we need some, some changes to some gun issues. It's a massive undertaking.

In all seriousness problems will always exist and like every serious issue everyone needs to contribute, people need to be kinder, we need more attention put on mental health issues, and yes, we need some, some changes to some gun issues. It's a massive undertaking.

Yup. That nut could have walked into that classroom with a 10 gallon gas can and incinerated the place. Society will never factor lunacy, or a disgruntled person hell bent on revenge, completely out of the equation.

My bother kills someone, so cops can come into my home and take me out in cuffs in front of my neighbors? Even if I didn't do anything? Just seems strange.

Why wouldn't they just frisk me if they suspected I had a weapon?

I think yesterday's situation was a little extreme. His brother had his ID on him. The mother was also dead. They thought there might have been a second gunman and there was only one witness and she was hospitalized. I don't think the police were going to take any chances yesterday. This wasn't a typical shooting.

Well, it's interesting that few seem to care (and in fact relish) that it gives the millions of legal, law abiding and responsible gun owners in America a bad name. So mcuh so, they are widely demonized and declared the "problem".

But mention Autism, or other forms of ilness, mental or otherwise, and it's suddenly most vital to protect all austistics from generalized slander?

Clearly this kid was severely disturbed and damaged mentally, and that was the primary cause of this event.

It wasn't games. It wasn't guns. It wasn't the price of tea in China.

Broken human beings do broken and horrific things. It's a shame we, as a society, only seem to care after the fact.....when it's before-the-fact that is the only time it could have been stopped.

True statement, but his designation as an autistic most certainly had little to nothing to do with what happened and only serves to stigmatize a no-so-well-understood disorder even more. While there have been instances of autistics killing other people, they are almost always relegated to low-functioning individuals resorting to some primal form of "acting out" wherein they do not understand the consequences of their actions, literally. Same goes for their lack of a sense of self-preservation.

That said, even if there is a complete disregard for his HIPAA rights post-mortem, whatever is revealed to be an underlying disorder is not an excuse for what happened, only a possible explanation. Either way, it is little comfort to all that have been affected by the brutal act.

I think yesterday's situation was a little extreme. His brother had his ID on him. The mother was also dead. They thought there might have been a second gunman and there was only one witness and she was hospitalized. I don't think the police were going to take any chances yesterday. This wasn't a typical shooting.

Not that this is on his mind now, but I think he has quite the lawsuit against various media sources and arguably the Hoboken police department.