<quoted text>what about all the compound interest I have earned since I started paying, in 1965?

Okay. So we will say since you are a big earner, you paid in more than most people, okay you get SS and Medicare for 5 more years to get back the interest. Okay, so you get SS and Medicare for ten years, then you can go off of it for the rest of your life. Then you can take out a reverse mortgage and live on your savings. Ooops, Americans have NO savings.

See, and they tell people that natural gas is going to be so cheap. People never figure it out that the oil and gas companies lie and lie. Hell, they are who we have the wars for. They are WHY we have all of this debt. Get the oil in Iraq, get the oil in Iran for Exxon and for BP. NEWSFLASH: Everything the oil and gas companies tell you is a lie, it's all promotion, it's all BS. the second they can get the politicians to run up $800 billion of debt on a natural gas infrastructure, everyone will start paying four times what they pay now for natural gas. Ooops, they lied, ooops they were not making a profit. Oops, they kept the price down to get the taxpayers to fund an $800 billion dollar gas infrastructure. Next, off to Iran for Exxon to take over the oil in Iran. Oops, U.S. taxpayers will be on the hook for another 2 trillion for another war in the Middle East. Yahoo!!!!!! Just buy their stocks and roll with it.

If Obama stays in office, invest in a company that takes EBT cards, invest in Medicaid companies, invest in Section 8 housing.

If Romney gets in, invest heavily in war corporations and in oil companies. You can always count on the Dems to give out more welfare and you can always count on the Repubs to pay and pay the war corporations and the oil companies.

Apparently America is a dictatorship and The Congress and Senate are things that we dreamed up so it seems like we are a democracy. Obama is the Dictator of the world because apparently when something in the world goes wrong it's Obama's fault.

<quoted text>You could care less about anyone who really needs help, you could care less about someone in their 50s dying of cancer. All you post is abuse to me, so don't give you bullsh!t about you care about one thing other than you, you, you having money and your old family members living off of the goverment so you don't have to help them. You don't give one crap about one thing other than greed of money. You could care less who dies young. You want to depend on a government that cuts indigent programs to pay rich state retirees 6-20K a month, that wants to tax people who make $7,500 a year to pay other people huge state pensions, you think you can count on SS when the politicians are drafting proposals so that if you get any other income retired, they will cut you off of SS and Medicaree, they are making plans to give people vouchers and make them buy their own health insurance, and Paul Ryan wants to means test the vouchers. If I do have other income, soon enough the government would SS and Medicare on me. When you see those programs are in 120 trillion dollars of debt, this is why they now begin to cut and cut those programs. That's why no more even tiny $20 a year cost of living increases, the government can't afford it. You think I want to be dependent on a government health care plan that Obama took $500 billion out of to fund a new health care plan?? You really think you can count on any of that stuff ten years from now?? These things won't exist ten years from now. Neither will those big government pensions. The government promised the baby boomers big huge monies that fit in the middle of the last century when people died at 62. These programs are NOT funded for 2012 when everyone lives to be 90. They are not paid for.I already live through tons of things being cut and eliminated. One day people could go to community colleges, the next day 300,000 young people were rejected from community colleges due to cuts, one day millions in CA had dental care, the next day the program is gone. The price of food doubled but no raise to SS because they do not put food nor gas into the Consumer Price Index, they do this on purpose because if they had to increase the SS payments on 60 million people, they would have to borrow money from China to do it. I would like to have some type of stable medical care and some type of stable income that is not going to end, go away, be means tested, cut, turned into a voucher, where the government doesn't run off doctors with low payments and with Obamacare. Like Ralph Ried said, they should end the double payments to men and give the double payments to indigent seniors. You don't give one crap about anything other than you abusing strangers. You are the typical American, you got yours, screw everyone else, and then you make it up that the two richest people in the U.S. are an example of the 300 million idiots in this country who have NOTHING who want to live off of the government, who have NO education, who do NOTHING for any charity. You're an evil pile of crap. GET OUT OF HERE. Stop pretending to be human. You're not

If you have any tranquilizers in the medicine cabinet, now might be a good time for you to push away from the computer, grab a glass of water, and go take one. You don't want to have a stroke while you're so busy solving all the nation's problems, do you?

BTW, while you're busy fixing government and entitlements, why don't you take a minute or two to see if you can't figure out how to get yourself out of that hood where you're so unhappy and away from all those fat lazy people who surround you?

Also, FaceBook is actually a good investment. People think it's overpriced, I think Zuckerberg is smart and as soon as he did his IPO he made it so that kids can all go on FaceBook and he bought that photo company and he just got Apple to put the FaceBook app on their stuff. If he gets billions of new customers from letting kids go on FaceBook, the stocks will go up. What I wouldn't do is invest in Europe or China, contrary to what Peter Schiff says. He's have-a-clue.

Why are you promoting a company hell bent on supporting Socialism and the selling of people's freedom of ananomity to the federal government?I knew you were not a real Libetarian.

People had better hang onto whatever money they have coming in and stop their spending addictions and they need to invest in real estate and in gold and silver and in commodities, and also, they need to move their money off of the dollar before the dollar crashes. This idea old folks will rake in all of these government pensions is not realistic.My neighbor here could have saved her pension money and owned a home outright by now and should her pension be cut, she could have taken out a reverse mortgage. Instead, she spent every cent she gets on QVC buying stuff and they giving it away to people. Now, CA IS cutting state pensions, and her car was just stolen so for the first time in years now she has a car payment while her pension will be cut and she has zero savings and zero equity in a home. People had better wake up because government monies are not going to be going to people much longer. They had better save what they have. I think the old people think this country is still rich and it's 1970 and that they can get all of this government money. It's nothing like that now. Bush and Obama took the U.S. into massive debts and took the U.S. down and no one can fix that anymore than the European countries can fix their debt problems.

Her California State pension has been cut? You said she "could have saved her pension money" so that means she's a current retiree?

Which state agency cut pension benefits for those already retired? I'm unaware of it happening.

<quoted text>If you have any tranquilizers in the medicine cabinet, now might be a good time for you to push away from the computer, grab a glass of water, and go take one. You don't want to have a stroke while you're so busy solving all the nation's problems, do you?BTW, while you're busy fixing government and entitlements, why don't you take a minute or two to see if you can't figure out how to get yourself out of that hood where you're so unhappy and away from all those fat lazy people who surround you?Ella Fitzgerald"Get Happy"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =mwoPlRR9J_kXX

Pammy is on a roll today. I get a big bang out of her rants. John Winkor who has the website the Daily Churmudgeon stated there are no female churmudgeons. Ithink pammy is a chrumudgeonette or female Churmudgeon. She does highlite a lot of off the wall things. I think differently about some things also. Once I was driving a semi down the road and a big dog was standing in the road. I didnt honk the horn ,slow down or swerve. I nailed that sucker. My co driver was agast. He said you hit that dog on purpose! I replied shure. then I explained I might have saved someones life that would have swerved and wrecked trying to avoid it. and if we ran over all the dogs in the road pretty soon we wouldnt be breeding dogs so stupid as to be in the road. Also if the owner finds poor dead Fido in the road maybe they will become responsible pet owners and fence their place so Fido II wont be in the road. Kinda makes sense in a not poltically correct manner.

<quoted text> Pammy is on a roll today. I get a big bang out of her rants. John Winkor who has the website the Daily Churmudgeon stated there are no female churmudgeons. Ithink pammy is a chrumudgeonette or female Churmudgeon. She does highlite a lot of off the wall things. I think differently about some things also. Once I was driving a semi down the road and a big dog was standing in the road. I didnt honk the horn ,slow down or swerve. I nailed that sucker. My co driver was agast. He said you hit that dog on purpose! I replied shure. then I explained I might have saved someones life that would have swerved and wrecked trying to avoid it. and if we ran over all the dogs in the road pretty soon we wouldnt be breeding dogs so stupid as to be in the road. Also if the owner finds poor dead Fido in the road maybe they will become responsible pet owners and fence their place so Fido II wont be in the road. Kinda makes sense in a not poltically correct manner.

Well, I get your point, but I'm a dog lover, so I've developed a technique along the lines of how to control a skid. I practiced on ice coated parking lots when I was about fourteen until I had the hang of it. Of course, I don't drive a semi, so I get your problem with that approach. My dog's invisible fence battery is down, but he doesn't know it yet. I'm glad he's stupid. I really really like him a lot.

<quoted text>Her California State pension has been cut? You said she "could have saved her pension money" so that means she's a current retiree?Which state agency cut pension benefits for those already retired? I'm unaware of it happening.Source please.

She's making fruit salad. Expect the cherries and whipped cream to be added later today;-)

<quoted text>If the Islamic terrorists stop fighting, there will be no more war, if Israel stops fighting there will be no more Israel. If Iran had their way, you would be walking 3 steps behind your husband and wearing a burqua.If you didn't convert to Islam, you would be beheaded.

Israel is locked into a stupid, never-ending war with the Arab world, one which is ENTIRELY THEIR OWN FAULT. And now America is getting itself locked into the same war on Israel's behalf. No wonder that conspiracy theorists blame Israel and Mossad for conspiring in 9/11, that attack certainly made life easier for the Israelis.

If you were honest, you wouldn't be fearmongering and pandering to the anti-Muslim crowd.

<quoted text> Pammy is on a roll today. I get a big bang out of her rants. John Winkor who has the website the Daily Churmudgeon stated there are no female churmudgeons. Ithink pammy is a chrumudgeonette or female Churmudgeon. She does highlite a lot of off the wall things. I think differently about some things also. Once I was driving a semi down the road and a big dog was standing in the road. I didnt honk the horn ,slow down or swerve. I nailed that sucker. My co driver was agast. He said you hit that dog on purpose! I replied shure. then I explained I might have saved someones life that would have swerved and wrecked trying to avoid it. and if we ran over all the dogs in the road pretty soon we wouldnt be breeding dogs so stupid as to be in the road. Also if the owner finds poor dead Fido in the road maybe they will become responsible pet owners and fence their place so Fido II wont be in the road. Kinda makes sense in a not poltically correct manner.

Swerving off the road and killing yourself would have made equal Darwinian sense, of course. A stupid human, though, is more dangerous and destructive than a stupid dog.:)

If Obama stays in office, invest in a company that takes EBT cards, invest in Medicaid companies, invest in Section 8 housing.If Romney gets in, invest heavily in war corporations and in oil companies. You can always count on the Dems to give out more welfare and you can always count on the Repubs to pay and pay the war corporations and the oil companies.

The EBT Community are huge supporters of Obama. He promises them an endless stream of other peoples hard earned $$$$$. Most SoCal Markets wouldn't even carry Filet Mignon and Prime Rib if it weren't for EBT cards.

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