I don't see anything beautiful about the old Coach building. It's old, but even at that, it doesn't look "classic". Put it anywhere else in the city, it's just another unidentifiable old building. Put it on the spot of some impending new building, suddenly it's going to be missed. I just don't get it.

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I don't see anything beautiful about the old Coach building. It's old, but even at that, it doesn't look "classic". Put it anywhere else in the city, it's just another unidentifiable old building. Put it on the spot of some impending new building, suddenly it's going to be missed. I just don't get it.

I think the reason for that is because we don't see those buildings coming up anymore. Sure, it might look regular compared to other, more ornate, older buildings, but when you think about it, it will never be replaced either. It will come to the point where we might look back and ask if we could have saved a bit more. However, as you've mentioned before, there are so many in NYC right now, it's not close to being a problem. I just happen to have the fear of losing them entirely.

So what buildings in the Hudson Yards are U/C or are undergoing site prep? The south tower is rising, the north tower is, I believe, undergoing site prep but otherwise ready to rise. Are there any other proposals that are close to rising?

as you've mentioned before, there are so many in NYC right now, it's not close to being a problem. I just happen to have the fear of losing them entirely.

Well, that will never happen, for a variety of practical and financial reasons to numerous to get into. Rest easy.

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So what buildings in the Hudson Yards are U/C or are undergoing site prep? The south tower is rising, the north tower is, I believe, undergoing site prep but otherwise ready to rise. Are there any other proposals that are close to rising?

I would put this one further off on the construction timetable, though if Related manages to snag another mega-lease for the Hudson Yards area, this would be the likely space. 55 Hudson is for smaller tenants, and 30 Hudson has largely been taken over by Time Warner. The other large office tower planned for the western half of the railyards is too far off.

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^^On the other side of the coin, it's frustrating when some of these large ornate buildings are demolished when in neighborhoods like this especially, the quality of replacements is (A) not very good (not talking about hudson yards, but virtually every new development in hells kitchen), and (b) there is a gluttony of open space in this part of town.

As for other established neighborhoods it varies. Park Avenue in the 50s has lost nearly all of its prewar office buildings, which is why a building like the Drake is harder to see torn down. Likewise when a row of town homes on the upper east side comes down, I don't think theres reason to weep.

The key's context, just because manhattan as a whole has many prewar buildings doesn't mean its a blanket condition across all neighborhoods, and not all pre-war buildings are created equal. A warehouse in the meatpacking district should not be seen as equal to a madison avenue hotel (however often times this doesn't feel like the case).

Back to this building, its going to have to come down here, since the realignment of 33rd st needs to take place, you'll notice on the 33rd street photo the dip in the street, this is going to be regraded (Flat), and underground access to the subway from the HY Mall will be introduced. Its easier here to start from scratch, and it will allow for easier flow between properties.

.....And in terms of looking for tenants, Related is now going through that process for two other office towers planned for the north side of West 33rd Street — technically not over the rail yard, but still considered by the developer to be an extension of the first half of the Hudson Yards project.

One of those planned buildings, 50 Hudson Yards will rise to 62 stories and will be wide enough to cover nearly half the block between 10th and 11th Avenue, according to current plans.

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“Office buildings are our factories – whether for tech, creative or traditional industries we must continue to grow our modern factories to create new jobs,” said United States Senator Chuck Schumer.