i am not a pro member...so i didnt but i wrote it down on my own sheet of paper

8:47 am

hurshy

i believe you can use the marks even if you are not pro...

8:47 am

hurshy

shift-click doesn't do anything for you?

8:48 am

lailie

oh haha it does, sorry i am kinda new here

8:48 am

hurshy

that's quite alright

8:49 am

lailie

i am just a little frustrated because i keep getting number with two possible places ..if you know what i am talking about

8:49 am

hurshy

do you know about naked pairs?

8:50 am

lailie

no i do not ...please inform me :)

8:50 am

hurshy

if you have two boxes where there are 2 numbers that can only go there, then no other numbers can go there.

8:51 am

hurshy

it helps you eliminate some possibilities.

8:51 am

lailie

yea i know ... so i marked them off

8:51 am

hurshy

this principle also works for more than 2 numbers.

8:51 am

lailie

since those naked pairs are mostly vertical it is hard to figure them out

8:54 am

hurshy

there is another trickity trick

8:54 am

hurshy

sudokus have one unique solution

8:55 am

hurshy

this means that if you have 4 squares lined up in two different groups, you can't have the same pair of numbers in both of them, cause if you did, they would be interchangeable and there would be two solutions

8:55 am

lailie

interesting ... i think this is why i am addicted to sudoku...so many little tricks to learn

8:55 am

hurshy

if you examine the ends of the third and fourth rows, you may find it fruitful

8:56 am

hurshy

well, a little fruitful.

8:56 am

hurshy

elimination wise.

8:57 am

lailie

icic.. i wil give it a look

9:01 am

hurshy

have you considered the situation of the 1's in the right third of the grid?

9:02 am

lailie

yea i am looking at it right now

9:02 am

hurshy

it is useful.

9:03 am

hurshy

that should get you there.

9:03 am

hurshy

"there" is a word which here means "to the end"

9:04 am

hurshy

(been reading lemony snicket...)

9:04 am

lailie

hehe thanks alot

9:10 am

lailie

ah finally solved it

9:10 am

lailie

hank you so much

9:10 am

lailie

is it really worth it to get the pro-membership ?

9:31 am

MpP

morning everyone

9:51 am

chebuctonian

morning

9:52 am

bookwyrmish

hallo

10:03 am

chebuctonian

yay, another 3 points :)

11:30 am

Anne

another easy hard one !

11:55 am

System

11:56 am

eyeman

go

12:51 pm

yul

hello

12:51 pm

hurshy

hello there yul

12:52 pm

yul

hershy, good to see you dear

12:52 pm

hurshy

oh, thanks, good to see you too. how are you doing?

12:55 pm

yul

i had lots of dimsums just now and thinking of musel as a litlle pithon. how is your Sunday going?

12:55 pm

spreadeagle

Done, easy for a hard, Rank me....

12:55 pm

hurshy

musel as a little pithon? my sunday is fine thanks

12:56 pm

yul

myself :)

12:56 pm

hurshy

let me go meooooooooooow, like a kitten in the sun
let me go meooooooooooow, cute paws, i know you're the one

12:56 pm

hurshy

OH

12:56 pm

yul

i could hardly talk :)

12:56 pm

hurshy

like the one in the little prince that ate an elephant?

12:56 pm

hurshy

well i guess that would be a big python.

12:57 pm

yul

but drawing was small

12:57 pm

hurshy

yes.

12:58 pm

yul

how many cats do you have at the moment, hershy?

12:59 pm

yul

hurshy, sorry

1:00 pm

hurshy

i have 3 cats, and have had 3 cats for... let's see... approximately 3.24 million moments

1:00 pm

hurshy

(assuming moment = minute)

1:01 pm

yul

i am looking after one big black one, who could play me too well :\

1:01 pm

hurshy

if moment equals second then 60 times as much so about 200 million moments.

1:01 pm

hurshy

play you? what does it do?

1:02 pm

yul

it does things :D

1:02 pm

norinva

Ahhh, someone else with 3 cats also!

1:02 pm

hurshy

my cats do things to, but they don't play me.

1:03 pm

hurshy

oops *too

1:03 pm

hurshy

my cats are very well behaved.

1:04 pm

yul

it knows that i have a soft spot for it so he demands extra food from me (and only me) even he has to be on a strict diet :(

1:04 pm

hurshy

OH

1:04 pm

hurshy

don't you watch dr. phil?

1:04 pm

hurshy

or the dog whisperer?

1:05 pm

hurshy

children, dogs, and cats - all need to know that you are in charge.

1:05 pm

norinva

The alpha cat, as it were.

1:06 pm

hurshy

yes although i don't quite know how it works with cats cause they aren't pack animals like dogs, are they?

1:06 pm

norinva

It's like being the mother cat.

1:06 pm

hurshy

<-- now this cat here, my marty, he is mischievous

1:06 pm

hurshy

so sometimes i have to yell at him to get down from somewhere or something

1:07 pm

yul

we don't have dr.phil in the uk. this cat knows i am in charge, but he is so cute an he makes little crying noises. it hard for me to resist him

1:07 pm

hurshy

and then he meows at me SO pathetically and needs a hug, like he is saying "don't you love me anymore?"

1:07 pm

hurshy

but will that stop me from yelling at him? no.

1:07 pm

norinva

wrapped around his little cat nail..../

1:08 pm

hurshy

mitten wants more food than is good for her and meows plaintively as well. like the drug slogan goes... JUST SAY NO

1:08 pm

norinva

It's hard to do that with 3 of them, they eat each other's food all the time.

1:08 pm

yul

yes, i am wrapped a bit. it's good i don't have to look after him all the time.

1:09 pm

hurshy

my cats seem to each be assertive enough that they each get enough.

1:10 pm

norinva

they all try to eat the others' food before they finish their own...quite illogical.

1:10 pm

hurshy

mine don't have specific food that is "theirs", i just put out enough for all 3 and they eat some all together and then as they are hungry later they go back and finish it off

1:11 pm

hurshy

since they are maintaining their weight, it seems to be fine.

1:12 pm

hurshy

norinva, are you in the US?

1:12 pm

yul

we used to have two cats and one was eating cat food of anoter. one of the cats only liked chiken and prones and other was hoovering all the cat food without any problems and became diabetic :(

1:12 pm

norinva

I have a seriously overweight one with psychological problems. I think she was starved before I got her, so she eats everything in sight.

1:13 pm

hurshy

marty just has a picky stomach, used to throw up a lot. had to get special food from the vet for awhile which was too expensive for all of them to eat and i had to prevent them each from eating each others' food then. but then i found purina one sensitive systems and i just feed that to all of them and we're all good.

1:16 pm

norinva

Mine are all seniors now and are on old kitties food. you'd think they wouldn't gain weight that way...!

1:17 pm

hurshy

i just kept weighing them all on a baby scale every week until i found the right amount of food that they maintain a steady weight.

1:18 pm

norinva

I'm thinking about going with more meals but timed with less food several times a day.

1:19 pm

hurshy

my cats sleep with me, so i have to feed them just before bed so that they aren't bugging me for food during the night, lol

1:20 pm

norinva

Yes, although they know I get up early on workdays, so if I'm not getting up soon enough for them on weekends, one of them starts biting my fingers. I can tell the weather is getting cooler, since they are starting to sleep with me more.

1:21 pm

hurshy

do you live in the US? cause if so, check out www.catgenie.com

1:21 pm

yul

buting fingers! so noughty

1:21 pm

hurshy

they aren't shipping them overseas yet, but plan to next year

1:22 pm

norinva

If you don't have an alarm clock, it's quite effective!!

1:24 pm

norinva

just checked it out, looks pretty cool. Not one of my favorite jobs for sure. I'll look more later.

1:24 pm

hurshy

mine is coming tomorrow! *hums happily*

1:25 pm

norinva

let me know how it works out. i'm interested.

1:25 pm

hurshy

you might want to check out this website, it's a forum, people comment on all sorts of litterbox options: http://www.litterbox-central.com/forum/index.
php

1:25 pm

yul

our cat thinks that biting is very serios and he does it only when he is extremly upset

1:25 pm

yul

our cat thinks that biting is very serios and he does it only when he is extremly upset

1:25 pm

yul

our cat thinks that biting is very serios and he does it only when he is extremly upset

1:25 pm

yul

sorry

1:26 pm

hurshy

that forum is where i learned of the cat genie's existence.

1:26 pm

norinva

mine onel "playbite", not to draw blood (usually!)

1:27 pm

norinva

only not onel, darn fingers!

1:28 pm

hurshy

people that have already gotten theirs have posted about it so it's the best way to really learn about it.