I work for a system with 6 hospitals. We own and run a school that awards associate and BS degrees in several disciplines in addition to nursing. We also have a local university using the classrooms and dorms from the old diploma program. The students live in the dorms and attend all classes on the hospital campus. Is this what you have in mind?

Jul 18, '02

Hi Sandra,

I'm pretty sure I know what you are asking.

As far as going back to nursing instruction in hospitals, most hospitals, at least where I live, never stopped their nursing programs.

I live in Pittsburgh (city), Pennsylvania (state) and we have a large number of very large health care orginazations and hospital systems.

Many of our hospitals have their own nursing school or nursing program. These programs usually only offer training to be an RN, not an LPN (Licensed Practial Nurse), or special certifications, ie. midwife, etc.

Most programs are usually 18 to 24 months in length and at the end the person may sit for the State Boards to receive licensure to be an RN. Upon completion of the program the person would have an ASN or ADN. They would not have a BSN.

Pre-requisite courses like Anatomy and Physiology, Math, Biology are taken at another University or Community College. Your core Nursing classes and clinicals are taught at the hospital.

A person who completes a program through a hospital is pretty much like a person who completes a 2 year program through a Community College. They have spent about the same amount of time in the program and have taken many of the same types of pre-requisites. Although, they may have some more clinical time under their belts.

A benefit of the Hospital Nursing schools is that they will pay for your education maybe even your books and uniforms and in return you will have to work for them for a period of time. Usually it's a two year commitment.

Of course, you don't have to commit to them. You could pay for your tuition, etc. out of pocket if you wanted to. But I have found the Hospital programs to be much, much more expensive than Community College. In my town Communit Col. is about 4,000 in tuition compared to a hospital which was 20,000.00

I also want to add that due to the nursing shortage many healthcare facilities - LTC, Hospitals, etc. will pay for your nursing classes in return for a working commitment and many facilities offer state certified training to become a Certified Nurses Aid.

This is just what I have found in my area. Programs in other states may be different.

Col!

Jul 18, '02

So Colleen would that be a Diploma School?? Our hospital had a program very similar to the one you just described only it was 3 years including prereqs and they graduated with a Diploma in Nursing.

Jul 18, '02

Hi Fed Up,

Maybe, I'm not totally sure. I'll check around and see what I can find out.

I do know that some of them are affiliated with local university's and colleges and if you complete the program they will give you so many college credits to apply to a BSN if you so choose.

Jul 18, '02

Thank you so far for your replies
The member of staff would like to do her RN training - but would like to do it through a hospital system of training - we dont really have very many of these to my knowledge now - however once we graduate our nursing degrees(we call this RN training - Batchelor of health Scince) they then do a years graduate traingin in the hospital
This nurse has done her EN training - good at it too. This training now is done in our colleges and is a one year full time with practical placament
I had heard there was some hopsital training happening and asked in the original question

Is your state training in any of your hospitals?

What type of training is taking place

What qualifications will these students have at the completion of their training

Thank you
Tookie

(PS not sure if this makes sense today - its very early in the morning here)

Jul 18, '02

Good question, Sandra. I think those are pretty much going the way of the drive-in theatre - seems there are fewer and fewer every year. Just a few years ago the hospital-based school my brother graduated from closed - they turned out excellent nurses with a 100% boards pass rate the first time (because those who didn't "cut the mustard" were invited to leave before they sullied the record - those nuns were tough! I don't know why they are disappearing (I presume it's $ related in some fashion - isn't everything?)

Sep 10, '03

hey,
im a student from india , and im very interested in doing my nursing studies in the united states. i would like to know which hospitals offer a diploma in nursing.
i have heard that some hospitals pay for your education if u sign a bond with them for two years or so. could neone clarify this and if it is so can you please give me the website so i can contact them.

thank you for your thoughts and opinions.

Sep 10, '03

The major hospital player in Columbus still has a nursing program for training-BSN program. Same for the hospital I worked for in Toledo, Vs.