Yeah Federer is defending semis in both IWand Miami which is actually pretty hard to beat given his record at both events since 2006. Then he can pick up more points in MC and Rome but so can Nadal at Rome and Madrid and then Federe has RG finalist points to defend. So it's still pretty tough unless nadal bails out early in the next couple of masters.

Having said all this I think Dubai is Murray's title, Federer oly beats him in slams and WTF

Yeah Federer is defending semis in both IWand Miami which is actually pretty hard to beat given his record at both events since 2006. Then he can pick up more points in MC and Rome but so can Nadal at Rome and Madrid and then Federe has RG finalist points to defend. So it's still pretty tough unless nadal bails out early in the next couple of masters.

Having said all this I think Dubai is Murray's title, Federer oly beats him in slams and WTF

Fed isn't improving his IW and Miami results, I don't think.
IW I can atleast entertain thoughts but Miami? Not a chance!

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I'm not sure if he'll even play Miami. And Nadal will have to lose before finals at IW & Miami plus maybe have a really off result at one of the masters for Roger to have any shot at all. I think Roger will only have a chance if he really picks up at Wimbledon-something he hasn't done for the past couple of years.

Heck, he'll be 4600 points behind Nole
Nole to defend 4250 (pre-french) + 720 (french) + 2000 (wimbledon)
and Nole has to defend 3600 points by the end of the USO.

Not suggesting he'll get to #2 or #1, but there is a non-trivial possibility. If Rafa doesn't win the French, he'll likely lose #2 to Fed.

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Just think, last year at this same time all his fans were whining how it was the end of Federer and how he should just retire.

However, now they are licking their chops thinking that he could possibly capture the #2 spot at some point. Last year he said he was happy that the hardcourt season was over, now he is having a "ball". Plenty of points for Federer to "racket" up right now.

Just think, last year at this same time all his fans were whining how it was the end of Federer and how he should just retire.

However, now they are licking their chops thinking that he could possibly capture the #2 spot at some point. Last year he said he was happy that the hardcourt season was over, now he is having a "ball". Plenty of points for Federer to "racket" up right now.

As you can see Federer is not some washed up old man past his prime.

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Just think if jackson_vile actually posted something other than hateful garbage.

Just think, last year at this same time all his fans were whining how it was the end of Federer and how he should just retire.

However, now they are licking their chops thinking that he could possibly capture the #2 spot at some point. Last year he said he was happy that the hardcourt season was over, now he is having a "ball". Plenty of points for Federer to "racket" up right now.

As you can see Federer is not some washed up old man past his prime.

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Actually, it just shows we are in a weak area when a nearing retirement 4 years past his prime Federer can still get deep in almost every tournament. 2004 - 2007 on the other hand, now that was a strong area! I can't imagine this Federer making a single final back then.

Just think, last year at this same time all his fans were whining how it was the end of Federer and how he should just retire.

However, now they are licking their chops thinking that he could possibly capture the #2 spot at some point. Last year he said he was happy that the hardcourt season was over, now he is having a "ball". Plenty of points for Federer to "racket" up right now.

As you can see Federer is not some washed up old man past his prime.

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Can you show us the posts? You've been known to pull things out of where the sun don't shine for fun.

Yeah I do like the court speed, on the other hand I remember the match Fed lost to Murray in Dubai and from what I can remember, aside from Fed making too many errors, Murray served really well like he did today and when Murray gets a lot of first serves in he's pretty hard to break. Just get a feeling Fed will make too many errors, but I hope I'm wrong.

Yeah I do like the court speed, on the other hand I remember the match Fed lost to Murray in Dubai and from what I can remember, aside from Fed making too many errors, Murray served really well like he did today and when Murray gets a lot of first serves in he's pretty hard to break. Just get a feeling Fed will make too many errors, but I hope I'm wrong.

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It's quite ok if a 4 years past his prime and nearly retired Federer loses to a peak Murray. Like I said, I can't imagine this Federer even making a final during the strong 2004-2007 area.

Federer has to win a major if he wants to even think about top 2 ever again in his career.

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Stranger things have happened, Federer just maybe the opportunist and we saw what Nadal and Novak can do regarding each other. You can only play so many grueling matches like that before your body simply can't keep up anymore.

When does rafael nadalogram get the number 1 ranking? Must be soon because djokovic is defending champ of everything so if djokovic keeps losing to murray/federer then its like 'rafael nadalogram world number 1 for 103rd week.'

When does rafael nadalogram get the number 1 ranking? Must be soon because djokovic is defending champ of everything so if djokovic keeps losing to murray/federer then its like 'rafael nadalogram world number 1 for 103rd week.'

So really points wise they are not that far apart, as crazy as it is. That RG win was huge. If Federer had won that he would be pretty close to Number 2, so if he was to win a slam and nadal didn't it is very possible he could overtake him which seems odd, but it will need Djokovic to keep beating Nadal and keep titles out of his hands.

He basically has to do at least as well in IW/Miami (or better) as he did a year ago and Nadal has to slip at the same time. The good news is that Fed's in good form while Nadal could be rusty in Indian Wells after a 5 week+ break.

Yep well everyone has a nemesis and djokovic became nadal's nemesis. Only person i can think of that never had a nemesis was pete sampras.

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On the other hand what would his h2h against Nadal look like if he played 14 times on clay against him + 3 times on slow grass and a bunch of a joke clay-speed-like hard courts? Hell, Sampras would be 0-14 down just from the clay encounters.

Yeah, the Nadaltards here think that Federer would actually be a "better player" overall if he sucked on clay thus miss all the clay encounters against Nadal and had a positive h2h against him, instead of making countless finals only losing to one man who happens to be the clay GOAT.

Yeah, the Nadaltards here think that Federer would actually be a "better player" overall if he sucked on clay thus miss all the clay encounters against Nadal and had a positive h2h against him, instead of making countless finals only losing to one man who happens to be the clay GOAT.

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Federer will probably get mad big praise for his french slam finals more after he retires and people don't see them as losses so much. I think federer must have made more french finals than almost everyone ever which is a big achievement. He might make like 3 more the way he is playing!

Federer will probably get mad big praise for his french slam finals more after he retires and people don't see them as losses so much. I think federer must have made more french finals than almost everyone ever which is a big achievement. He might make like 3 more the way he is playing!

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Borg and Nadal with 6 are the only ones with more FO finals than Federer.:shock: