Edit... Ugh, I ordered one. Too bad it will be a good long while before I can throw it. Will be cold by the time I get it and will be a good while before I can have a chance to. LOL. Also, it let me choose a color, but it's only if they "HAVE" the color. I chose Black, and hopefully this place still has some, if they got any at all. But, I'm really looking forward to a black one!

Let you now in a few days but supposedly they go real far but are a little flippy and not good for headwinds.

Sounds Katanaish. Anyway, Discraft is pissing away a REALLY GOOD marketing opportunity imo by not flooding stores with these before Xmas and preempting Innova's stock release of the Katana. I personally would love to see them pull a punch like that. Instead, they're following Innova's lead and making them a fundraiser for the holidays.

Let you now in a few days but supposedly they go real far but are a little flippy and not good for headwinds.

Sounds Katanaish. Anyway, Discraft is pissing away a REALLY GOOD marketing opportunity imo by not flooding stores with these before Xmas and preempting Innova's stock release of the Katana. I personally would love to see them pull a punch like that. Instead, they're following Innova's lead and making them a fundraiser for the holidays.

Would it not be the smart thing to do to release it in limited quantities and see if it is any good? Usually only those who know anything about the sport, know anything about discs, are they not the ones to go out of their way and get tournament discs? I think it would be better to dangle the carrot a little more, wait until these tournament discs are a little dinged up and people begin clamoring for back-ups and regular runs that they do not care to damage. I am not sure I want to go through another wave of Groove like discs again. I remember how excited we were about those and how many were sold when they went into production. I thought Discraft was wise to hold back their version of the Groove and not flood the market with theirs as well.