The Washington Post is reporting that President Barack Obama is preparing to pull out all the stops in pushing his anti-gun agenda in what the newspaper calls a far broader and more comprehensive approach than the Clinton-era ban on semi-autos.

That ban expired in 2004 after a ten-year lifespan. Passage of the measure cost Democrats control of Congress in November 1994.

The moves will be sold as an effort to curb gun violence, but it appears there is much more in the presidents plan, including what the Post calls measures backed by key law enforcement leaders that would require universal background checks for firearm buyers (and) track the movement and sale of weapons through a national database 

National database just might sound like national gun registration to some firearms activists. The concept is almost certain to be toxic to the firearms community. Fear of impending gun restrictions has fueled a buying rush across the nation, and is reportedly swelling the ranks of gun rights organizations with thousands of new memberships.

So does this mean with this “Database” that Obama can finally track down all the guns he gave to those drug cartels in Mexico..Id really like to know what happened to all of those Fast and Furious guns he handed out to drug pushers

Why? I mean, what does this have to do with what sparked the idiotic overreaction? And what do they imagine will happen, aside from law abiding citizens creating more paperwork?

They are like a magic 8 ball with one answer floating inside. Whatdwe do about mass child shooting? “More power.” What about “hurricane” Sandy? “More power.” What about the “fiscal cliff”? “More power.” The debt ceiling? “More power.”

I was at my local gun shop yesterday. There was a line of three gentlemen ahead of me and another guy walking around the store. He never brought anything to the counter and seemed to be “hanging out.”
The reason he made me nervous is a friend was buying 10 round Ruger mags and I said I didn’t need any since I had 20s. His ears perked up like he was taking note of what I said, so I quickly added “pre-ban, of course.”
I will be more careful what I say around strangers from now on.

Isn’t a federal background check already required on all non-private gun purchases? Don’t gun dealers already keep records of who purchased what? If so, the government certainly knows who has had a background check. That might not tell them exactly what a person owns, but it implies who is and isn’t buying guns. Also, couldn’t they pass a law requiring gun dealers to turn over their records? If so, the only guns off the books would be ones that are sold between private owners.

Most likely, and your credit card will be examined periodically and compared to red flagged ammo purchases and etc.

You could build a replica even down to the serial number or do some Youtube editing magic and show a video recording of you taking a cutting torch to your guns, in effect you are destroying them as a favor to save tax payers dollars.

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posted on 01/06/2013 12:38:24 PM PST
by Eye of Unk
(A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)

Has Fast & Furious been forgotten?The spineless Repub leadership in both houses needs to say, in both houses everyday:

"The obama administration, the same one that gave thousands of so called "assault weapons" to bloodthirsty Mexican drug cartel killers, MS 13 and Chicago gangs and armed al queda in the Mideast with real assault weapons, RPGs and manpads wants to confiscate AR 15s and similar firearms from law abiding Americans.

Throw a gun destruction party, invite all your neighbors, get as many sworn witnesses as possible. But beforehand take edited shots of actual guns being torched or shredded, leave nothing that can be reconstructed, use replicas.

Burn safe queens of dubious value, get plenty of replica ARs in the mix, get an expert to film everything, post it on the web.

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posted on 01/06/2013 12:42:51 PM PST
by Eye of Unk
(A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)

"In 2001, all gun owners were required to have a licence and, by 2003, to register all of their rifles and shotguns.

Not everyone complied. An estimated 65% of firearms owners registered at least one rifle or shotgun, and no more than half of all long guns ended up in the registry. Opposition was intense and has never abated. Grassroots anger helped to fuel the rise of the Reform Party, and contributed to the elimination of the Liberals as a political force in the West. Despite their mutual antagonism, three opposition parties (Reform, Progressive Conservative and New Democrat) united against the legislation. Only the Bloc Québécois voted with the Liberals.

In 2002, the auditor-general revealed that the Firearms Centre had grown out of control. Despite political promises that the program would not cost over $2-million, costs were expected to exceed $1-billion by 2005. By 2012, this had ballooned to $2.7-billion. The auditor-general uncovered irregularities including mismanagement and corruption. Her findings stimulated a parliamentary revolt. In 2003, Parliament imposed an annual spending cap.

The auditors reports led to RCMP investigations of Liberal insiders and contributed to the fall of the Liberal government in 2006."

Unfortunately the majority of the evil Obama has done has been forgotten..Obama has gotten away with murder repeatedly and doesn’t have to explain ANY of it..Fast and Furious, Benghazi, he has to answer for nothing which is despicable but since he has 90 percent of the media in the tank for him he can do whatever he pleases..he wants to go after guns, he won’t get away with it, he wants a civil war its ON

"A sixth claim is that the data in the long-gun registry are too valuable to be destroyed.

Unfortunately, the many errors and omissions in the registry vitiate its utility. The RCMP testified to the auditor-general that they could not rely on it in court. Recent information shows that many errors remain despite the best efforts of the Canadian Firearms Program.

Immense problems similarly have been reported concerning the accuracy of the South African firearms registry and the now-abandoned New Zealand long-gun registry.

The RCMP has reported error rates between 43% and 90% in firearms applications and registry information. "

The moment any anti-gunner suggest that there be some reasonable compromise, offer them this:

We will compromise by agreeing that every firearm transfer be subject to a check to verify that the buyer is legally qualified.

They will compromise in that the qualification process will not involve disclosing to the verifying agency any information about the actual firearm purchased, or even that a purchase actually occurred.

This means simply that unqualified buyers are in a database by their drivers license and other info, and anyone can call in to the 800 number or website, enter a buyer’s driver’s license number and name, and see if they’re allowed to purchase.

It’s nothing more than “carding” to show age qualification at the liquor store.

If you find the first part reprehensible, I understand and agree, but you can be sure that the anti gunners would never go for this, and the fact that they won’t proves that a confiscation-enabling database is their goal.

>>Throw a gun destruction party, invite all your neighbors, get as many sworn witnesses as possible. But beforehand take edited shots of actual guns being torched or shredded, leave nothing that can be reconstructed, use replicas.<<

Oh for crying out loud! A fake gun destruction party?

You are kidding around...right? I’m not trying to be disrespectful, but isn’t it just a bit naive to think anyone would fall for that sort of nonsense?

Just, out of curiosity, if registered gun owners reported their guns stolen would they remain in the system as a gun owner?

Of course they would remain in the system. What do you think the reason is for mandatory reporting of stolen guns!

The idea is that if you report a gun stolen, and they search your house and come up with it, you can be prosecuted for obstruction of justice.

The idea is to have all legitimate weapons under the control of the State. They do not care that much about guns that are illegal. In a couple of generations, those will be no problem, because the gun culture will have been destroyed, and guns are of little use if you do not have the will to use them, or the conviction that the right to keep and carry them is your God given right, protected by the Constitution.

If your state has gun shows and doesn`t require checks for private sales, just rent a table at the next one. Sell any junk you may have or just use it as a garage sale but keep the receipt as it is “proof” of where you “sold” your known purchases and when.

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