Tuesday, June 21, 2005

Saan ba mas magandang mag-migrate sa Canada o sa NZ?

Hindi ko masasagot ito kasi di pa ako nakapunta ng Canada. But someone who's lived in both countries might be able to give anyone thinking of migrating to either of these countries some valuable insights.

KA ELYONG: Thanks a lot for your very helpful input! I read them to my husband just now. Now, nalilito tuloy kami. Canada ba or NZ? :-) Gusto ko Canada kasi we have lots of relatives in the US. We have to think hard about this now. We want to move out of Switzerland pronto! All I know is, Heidi Land is not for Pinoy immigrants. Language studies (German, French, Italian) na lang, ubos na ang pera, time and energy mo. Siguro I will get a job pag 65 na ako, hehe...by then wala na kukuha sa akin sa trabaho. :-) Super tindi din ng discrimation, lalo na in the hiring process. Anyway, I should stop rambling about my host country at may mga pros naman -- like yung sceneries. Siguro I can be like Julie Andrews and sing "The Hills are Alive..." almost everyday. :-) Masarap din ang chocolates.

tama lahat naman ay personal preferrence. what is an advantage to one person may actually be seen as a disadvantage by another. for example the fact that canada is close to US may be seen by some as advantageous if they have relatives in the US. but for some it may be seen as a disadvantage kasi malipit sa terrorisms. NZ is an island and is far from all other countries. some will see it disadvantageous but some will see it as being safe from global events.

isa pa lahat din relative. when one say that good government in canada. i think that means compared to the Phil. dahil sa NZ maganda rin namam ang palakad ng gobyerno.

for me, personally, gusto ko simpleng buhay lang. sa canada mas mabilis ang pace. sa nz, more laid-back. it really boils down to which lifestyle one prefers and feels more comfortable with. walang pinagkaiba sa big-city-life vs small-town-life. both have pros and cons. mathematically, one will be earning more in canada, but that also means there will be more expenses. you'll be prone to buy more expensive things like plasma tv, etc. it is easier to have more than one job in canada, but doing that will mean one will have lesser time with the family. so give and take din. sometimes you have to make a choice because you can't have both.

as far as moving to canada: i have friends (pinoys) who came from (via) spain, israel, uk, australia, nz and they said that much easier for them to come here rather than directly from philippines. some of them have gotten work permit first as domestic helpers.

most of them are amazed how fast they were able to bring their relatives from the philippines (family integration program)

i like to visit nz someday but the airfare is too expensive i think from montreal unless i could find a super rate. :)

sori ha... i've never been to any of those countries! but to share some comments from friends, they say mas maganda daw sa canada kung benefits ang pag-uusapan, but a friend who was going to nz told me that the nationals of nz are friendlier.

I agree with you KU. Yes, it really comes down to what one wants. For me, time with family is always important. Money, we can have that in NZ though inde ganun kalaki but enough to sustain the family with some savings.

Napasyal ako dito dahil nakita ko na nagsubmit kayo ng bagong thread sa backpack-nz. Anyways, salamat sa komento. Ang masasabi ko lang sa posting na ito ay kagaya rin na sinabi ninyo at doon sa sinabi ko sa backpack (yun nga palang link Ka uro hindi nagwowork)- nasa personal na kagustuhan ng tao kung saan sila nababagay. Mahirap sabihin na sa Canada ang mas maganda dahil may mga bagay sa NZ na mas maganda kaysa Canada at vice-versa. And I understand why people prefered other country than others kasi ang basehan nila is more of the new country there in and the Philippines. Both Canada and NZ are welfare state, both provide benefits to their citizens. Here are things I like about NZ - people saying thank you to the bus driver when riding and when accosting from the bus. Greeting each other even they don't know the person. I was in South Island (Cromwell), fruit stands with bags of cherries, nectarines, etc.. are in the table. There are no people but just a note saying "please feel free to grab a bag and make a donation" - in one corner there is a basket with money and also a note on it saying "please grab your change". Kung sa pilipinas lang iyon - kinuha na ang lahat ng bag ng walang bayad tapos kukuha pa ng sukli. (never seen one like that in Canada yet)! I love the outdoors (no poisonous animal). Very relax environment - stress free and nuclear free. I love the people!

Here is what i like about Canada - more opportunities for me and higher compensation compared to NZ. I love the rockies (lot's of bears and cougars and wild animals) which in my personal opinion is more rugged than the NZ mountains. I like the medical benefits than the one in NZ (state of the art facilities). People are more tolerable to our culture because they've met a ton of Filipinos before. I love the different cultures!

Again, there are pluses and minuses and there are more to include but this will become a novel.

I am in Canada. Just been here for 7 months. That notcanada.com site...that's just a prejudice to the country. I'm sure if there would be a site notusa.com baka mas marami pa. The truth is, Canada is the best!

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