I've always liked Biden a lot more in debates, because he's far more disciplined. Almost all his hilarious/stupid gaffes seem to be in front of crowds where he gets amped up and flies off script.

Smart post though. I don't agree it kills the issue, I keep going back to it if I'm Biden. Past positions don't vanish into the ether, and the fact that the Ryan budget has kept evolving from the far right as we get closer to election time...

Holy crap the Mayans were right.. the word is ending.. I pretty much agree with you throughout this thread!

OK, I'm off for a bit, I'll try to get back in during or after the debate.