I always thought it would be nice to have a place to ask breeding questions, boast awesomeness or share breeding woes. I looked around, but didnt find such a thread, so I'm starting one. This thread is meant mainly for those of us who still do things the hard way, breeding without RNG abuse or any cheating devices, but anyone is welcome to share. i suppose I shall start this off =)

Up: Managed to breed a Female Ralts with Trace, Modest nature (+Sp. Atk, -Attack) and max IVs in everything but attack, which was around 13-14. my most epic breed ^_^ I've been trying to get another poke as good ever since.

Down: Today I was breeding Houndours. I was aiming for speed nature with Flash Fire and max IVs in Attack / Sp. Atk / Speed. I came close.... Male Houndour with Flash Fire, BOLD nature (which is +Def, -Attack), Max IVs in everything EXCEPT Defense. I was thinking I could still work with that, but then checked the Defense IV.... which is one. and its HP is Dark. I think I'll just use him for breeding.... T.T

Down: I have not, for the life of me, been able to breed a simple Adamant Magikarp. Let alone good IVs, I've never gotten the nature.

that sucks I tend to do batches of ~300 eggs, so i'll usually get at least one with the right nature. but now that i'm aiming for specific natures / abilities and IVs, I'll have runs where I just cant quite get the right mix. times like those i wish i had a flawless IV ditto of the nature in question to help me out

Luna decided to breed a she could use in the Battle Frontier, this is how it went...

Luna : Okay, So I caught 2 Taillow in the wild & then breed them to get another Taillow which I decided to then just breed to get the moves I wanted, I breed it with a Staraptor once it became a Swellow, both were done with training & afterwards I had around 30 Taillows & I had to pick 2 of them to breed together. The specs for the Taillows I decided on was as followed(note I am breeding with the EV training items);

So I decided to breed the 2 of them until I got 1 with the Adamant Nature, I got what I wanted kind of quickly & here is what I got(note that I stop breeding with the EV Training Items at this point, don't ask why, okay?);

Looking Back on it = I breed a Taillow that almost meet my standards, I just dealt with the SPDEF & the HP IV while I wanted 31, 30 was not so bad. I stopped breeding them with the EV Training Items I had been breeding with before due to the fact that I wanted the HP IV to be 31 & it is the hardest IV to interit. I wanted Taillow to have Brave Bird & Whirlwind & the only pokemon I had that learned these both by level was Starly/Staraptor so that had to be done first, I actually breed Swellow & Staraptor only until I got a Male Taillow for obvious reasons, I then breed it with the Swellow that already breed with Staraptor once trained to a level where it didn't grow fast to get the 30 Taillows. The best part of this experience was that I obtained a Taillow that actually had a decent HP IV & was Adamant, the first of the 30 Taillows I breed had a 30 HP IV that was characteristically proven but was not much else along the lines of IVs.

Next is Plusle as Shellos/Gastrodon is not obtainable for me right now in Soul Silver...

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Up- Managed to get hydro pump bagon for my platinum game by breeding in emerald.

Down- After 2 weeks of breeding for an adamant shuckle- I FINALLY got one. It had the right speed Ivs I was looking for, but after Ev training it (I HATE HAVING TO WRITE DOWN THE FREAKIN EVS), teaching it earthquake, bug bite, power trick+ stone edge. I found out it had 0 Iv's in defense......... But Im still gonna us it CAUSE I DONT WANT TO TRY BREEDING ANOTHER ONE!!!

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thats a nice taillow =) i had been using one in sapphire recently, and its a pretty fun pokemon. i may breed myself a fancy one to play around with.

@GofD, EV training has to be my least fave part of training a pokemon. even with pkrs and power items, i lose track of what I'm doing far too easily and often have to reset. "was that 12 magikarps? or 11? bah! *soft reset* let's try that again with less fail at counting" If ever you do decide to breed another shuckle, you may want to grab yourself an adamant ditto and make it hold an everstone. 50% chance of getting your adamant shuckle that way =)

Thats what I did.... But I wasnt gettin the right speed Ivs. I was gettin roughly in the 20-30 range, when I needed it in the 0~10 range for trick room to wrok its magic.. And I just relized this now it was BRAVE nature shuckle I was after... See I did so much breeding for it I dont remember what it is..

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Up: Managed to breed several pokes, including my Hasty with 31 Speed IVs and other good IVs (but its attack IV was pretty meh), my Calm with Haze and good IVs, and my Sassy with good IVs! You bet how happy I was (With Shuckle!)

Down: Breeding takes seriously long to do. I seriously wish Gamefreak didn't invent Natures or EVs because if I have a poke that I just had it battle random foes, I would feel like it is weaker than it should be. Gamefreak should have just forgot EVs and natures and kept Stat Exp instead. Even if it makes your pokemon slightly weaker, it would surely make it EASIER to train, and all you would have to worry about is good IVs (and maybe Stat Exp.)

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Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:14 pm

Lawence Codye

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IVs are what I have a problem with, they are outrageously unpredictable & unless you are cheating in some sense of the world, getting a pokemon with the exact & I mean exact IVs you want in each individual stat is borderline impossible, even with HGSS having the EV training Items as a help when passing on what IVs you want.

EVs are only a problem for me due to the fact that Gamefreak thought it was a good idea to keep the numbers hidden which is just stupid imo...

Stat Exp. I never really got but to be fair, I didn't exactly try to learn about them either so I don't know, what are the limits?...

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Yeah, even if you have flawless IV ditto + power item, its still rough to get what you want. is it possible to get flawless IV dittos of every nature? or are there some natures + flawless IV spreads that just never occur?

Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:38 pm

Lawence Codye

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Yeah, even if you have flawless IV ditto + power item, its still rough to get what you want. is it possible to get flawless IV dittos of every nature? or are there some natures + flawless IV spreads that just never occur?

I hate to break it to you, but it is all luck, I got lucky by obtaining a Ditto with 31 SPATK IVs & 31 DEF IVs & it had a decent IV somewhere else, & most of the ones I catch have at least 1 IV that is at least 26 that is it's highest IV, the Ditto with those good IVs in SPATK & DEF is Bashful Natured...

I only would even try to say that about Legendary Pokemon IVs as they are literally hell trying to get with good IVs...

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Yeah, even if you have flawless IV ditto + power item, its still rough to get what you want. is it possible to get flawless IV dittos of every nature? or are there some natures + flawless IV spreads that just never occur?

I hate to break it to you, but it is all luck, I got lucky by obtaining a Ditto with 31 SPATK IVs & 31 DEF IVs & it had a decent IV somewhere else, & most of the ones I catch have at least 1 IV that is at least 26 that is it's highest IV, the Ditto with those good IVs in SPATK & DEF is Bashful Natured...

I only would even try to say that about Legendary Pokemon IVs as they are literally hell trying to get with good IVs...

oh i know, without RNG abuse its practically impossible to get flawless IV anything. (my record is 5 max IVs, which I've only hit twice in the thousands of eggs i've hatched) I was just wondering if the one in a billion chance was there at all, because having a flawless IV timid / jolly / modest / adamant US ditto to throw an everstone on would really make my life easier

I don't do it so i'm not 100% sure how it works, but from what i understand there's a program you can dl that will help you determine when you'll get certain nature / IV spreads or shiny pokes. (RNG = Random Number Generator) You need to know your secret ID to do it, and theres a bunch of things you have to enter into it to calculate the thing you want. in DPPt you could use the poketch to skip through the numbers to get to the one you wanted. not sure how you do it in HG/SS, but it seems to involve calling prof. oak.

in other news, my houndour batch turned out alright in the end. I didn't get another one with 5 max IVs, but the one i got for my own nefarious purposes was pretty good: Male, Flash Fire, Naive, [HP 31 / A 29 / D 26-27 / SA 31 / SD 31 / S 31] Its missing 2 points in attack, but i think i'll live

in other news, my houndour batch turned out alright in the end. I didn't get another one with 5 max IVs, but the one i got for my own nefarious purposes was pretty good: Male, Flash Fire, Naive, [HP 31 / A 29 / D 26-27 / SA 31 / SD 31 / S 31] Its missing 2 points in attack, but i think i'll live

That is an awesome Houndour...better get back to doing that soon I guess...

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i know i've read the answer somewhere before, but i'm hopeful that someone will tell me it was wrong.... if i have a ditto and a female pokemon, and give the female poke an everstone, will it get the 50% chance to pass the nature? or does the everstone trick really only work on the ditto in that situation?

i know i've read the answer somewhere before, but i'm hopeful that someone will tell me it was wrong.... if i have a ditto and a female pokemon, and give the female poke an everstone, will it get the 50% chance to pass the nature? or does the everstone trick really only work on the ditto in that situation?

I remember it saying somewhere that Ditto always acts as the mother when breeding so even that being said, I have no clue actually, should probably try that out by breeding 3 to 5 pokemon using the method cause you are bound to get 1 of them with the right nature if it works...

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Well I am currently breeding bronzors, cause the bronzong I made for a single trick room power trick shuckle team doesnt really work (actually the whole freakin team didnt work out as planned) so now im workin on a double trick room power trick shuckle team, and my bronzong has been broken by me. So im gonna try and get a +sp.att -speed natured bronzor with low speed Iv's (or maybe just the nature, I dont seem to have luck with Iv's..)

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i know i've read the answer somewhere before, but i'm hopeful that someone will tell me it was wrong.... if i have a ditto and a female pokemon, and give the female poke an everstone, will it get the 50% chance to pass the nature? or does the everstone trick really only work on the ditto in that situation?

I remember it saying somewhere that Ditto always acts as the mother when breeding so even that being said, I have no clue actually, should probably try that out by breeding 3 to 5 pokemon using the method cause you are bound to get 1 of them with the right nature if it works...

heh, while trying to find a convenient list of differences in breeding between gen IV and gen V I came across this on bulbapedia: "In Generation IV, in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum, inheriting natures remains the same as in Emerald. However, in the Johto remakes, HeartGold and SoulSilver, inheriting Nature was changed a little. Whichever Pok

Thanks. I kinda dont need to chain ditto's cause I own emerald and have a bunch of ditto's I caught from my previous breeding project, I just havent transfered them all over yet. Oh and for the record I own platinum, so im juts gonna have to wing it for the most part. Im not gonna start the breeding yet cause I am currently taking a little break from gaming cause I've playing a bit to much latley, so im gonna give my eyes a little break for a bit.

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hurrah for the everstone trick! i'm aiming for a couple awesome Smeargle atm. one male with good stats for breeding with, so nature doesn't matter, and one Jolly one with good stats. its such a nice change to have about half your pokemon being the right nature. i love my flawless foreign ditto, but i couldnt lock natures and i never got any shinies via masuda method

Well, I got my quiet natured bronzor. It has pretty good Hp, Att and sp. Att ivs, but its speed Iv is around 30. I managed to get another one with aquiet nature, but it didnt have the sp.att iv i was lookin for. Im currently ev training the bronzor i mentioned earlier.

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victory is mine! I have a male smeargle with: HP 31 / Atk 29 / Def 31 / S. Atk 31 / S. Def 31 / Speed 10. Bad nature, but he's meant for breeding. (sketch moves to pass along to pokes in his egg group) That should speed things up, my last smeargle was pretty bad stat-wise. With this guy I'll be able to lock a maxed stat right away Now to check the IVs on all the Jolly smeargles I bred. ^_^

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