you do not want to be standing there ... a close in lead hook means you are standing in the wrong place but it also means he is transfering weight onto his rear leg thus you can place your rear leg "behind" your rear leg and kick him as you move out of range of the punch .. you should do this keyed just by being in this relative position rather than being aware of the punch (difficult)

Why do all that when you can learn a decent block? You may not have time to move out of range of the hook, that is my point. Retreating is not always a viable option.

And for the record, I think this thread is doing admirably well. The discussion is mostly rational, and if we are discussing so many techniques for so many pages, that is precisely because the purpose of this thread is to find out what is and what isn´t **** in wing chun, and why. This is not a flame war, this is not a lineage war, no one here is trying to pass off his own version of wing chun as the only correct one.

We are all just discussing the problems and the merits of wing chun. And we have been doing that for more than 20 pages.

I think this thread should go on.

That civilisation may not sink,
Its great battle lost,
Quiet the dog, tether the pony
To a distant post;
Our master Caesar is in the tent
Where the maps are spread,
His eyes fixed upon nothing,
A hand under his head.

All these WC practioners: has anyone attended a Throwdown? A lot of what I've been reading is still theory. Has anyone ever pulled off a "trap" in a Throwdown? Or, for that matter, any WC techniques? Video please.

Quoting myself is bad but can I get an answer please? We have 20+ pages of WC practioners posting - anyone been to a Throwdown? How did it go? Etc. Etc. Etc.

There is this little thing called geography which prevents me from going to a throwdown. But I did meet a fellow bullshidoka from São Paulo (bait), and we did some grappling. That´s the closest I´ll probably get to a throwdown, unfortunately.

That civilisation may not sink,
Its great battle lost,
Quiet the dog, tether the pony
To a distant post;
Our master Caesar is in the tent
Where the maps are spread,
His eyes fixed upon nothing,
A hand under his head.

if the nature of internet forums is an issue rather than the bullshit on it then I feel I must add the opposition to the thread is often a device for gaining recognition off peers by being anti WC... which I must agree given the state of WC is not difficult.

if you want a cheap sense of belonging being anti this or that is a sure fire way of gaining that sense of security... thats bollux as well if you have no decent grounds for such a stance..

posting that WC has never delivered on video is a GOOD point but that in itself does not invalidate the thread which has turned into a discussion about why WC is ****..

even if you think/know it is crap saying why illuminates the realities it fails to address and quite possibly sheds light on fighting in general

I don't see an reason to stop this thread at all.

whats wrong with you? you too sensitive or something.... what force makes you click on the link to come here and post?

There is this little thing called geography which prevents me from going to a throwdown. But I did meet a fellow bullshidoka from São Paulo (bait), and we did some grappling. That´s the closest I´ll probably get to a throwdown, unfortunately.

I´ll buy dinner for you and yours. And for the foreign bullshidokas that make it here.

Although I think a brazilian throwdown should happen during vacations, preferably in the north east of Brazil. So we could recover from our bruises at the beaches and show off our bruised macho bodies to the ladies. São Paulo is an ugly, ugly city.

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That civilisation may not sink,
Its great battle lost,
Quiet the dog, tether the pony
To a distant post;
Our master Caesar is in the tent
Where the maps are spread,
His eyes fixed upon nothing,
A hand under his head.