Is pretty good and pretty darn good the same thing? Because, I don't know, but adding that "darn" in there makes it kind of different.

But why are we still talking about this? It's James Thrash, for crying out loud

I didn't bring him back up. He was referenced as an answer to you over 31 bust out question. Randy Moss come to mind after sub par seasons with the Raiders. And yea pretty darn good and pretty good are one in the same just to clarify.

Devery Henderson and Brian Hartline, all under 30, should get some play on the open market. While none of them is a true No. 1 wide receiver, they will produce at a higher level for a longer period of time than Jennings and Welker.

See, because "bust out" to me isn't Randy Moss because we saw in Minnesota how great he could be. To me it's someone who kind of flies under the radar for much of his career and then takes his game to another level not yet seen.

And stop getting so pissy when asked to clarify/defend your position

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Forbath's kick-offs were definitely lacking, but that was his first full year doing it.

I remember reading an article, Forbath did say that he has been working on it through out the offseason. But yeah I think it's what Cult said, bringing someone in to give Forbath some break in camp and preseason sometimes. We will find out soon enough

See, because "bust out" to me isn't Randy Moss because we saw in Minnesota how great he could be. To me it's someone who kind of flies under the radar for much of his career and then takes his game to another level not yet seen.

And stop getting so pissy when asked to clarify/defend your position

You know darn well what I meant. You were just trying to start it up again. Because you were trying to say Henderson wouldn't be able to make a substantial contribution because he was 31?. All I said was he may bust out. Especially with a different team now. Not that he would but he might. But you still are worrying me about it after I gave you one example of a player who wasn't getting it done and then started to.

You know darn well what I meant. You were just trying to start it up again. Because you were trying to say Henderson wouldn't be able to make a substantial contribution because he was 31?. All I said was he may bust out. Especially with a different team now. Not that he would but he might. But you still are worrying me about it after I gave you one example of a player who wasn't getting it done and then started to.

Sigh. Fine, whatever. moving on

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I would be willing to bet serious money that neither Henderson nor Stallworth are going to "bust out" (per SS's definition) this year. In fact, I would be mildly surprised if both make the roster. Looking at the WR corp and depending on how many we keep, I think one of them has a pretty good shot to be that 5th or 6th "insurance" WR who is only active in injury situations. As I recall, Stallworth played some ST for in his last stint and, if he is willing to do so again, that might give him a leg up.

I can see our top 5 from last year returning w/ possibly Briscoe being cut in favor of Henderson/Stallworth and then one of the UFA guys (I'm specifically thinking of L. Lewis) making the final cut.

Again, such a nice change from a couple of years ago when we had no depth.

I didn't bring him back up. He was referenced as an answer to you over 31 bust out question. Randy Moss come to mind after sub par seasons with the Raiders. And yea pretty darn good and pretty good are one in the same just to clarify.

Devery Henderson and Brian Hartline, all under 30, should get some play on the open market. While none of them is a true No. 1 wide receiver, they will produce at a higher level for a longer period of time than Jennings and Welker.

Now go argue with someone else. Like some nagging schoolgirl.

Nobody is nagging or arguing with you. Nor is anyone giggling at you.

If you can't have a discussion with someone that disagrees with you maybe a discussion board isn't for you.

No need to get so defensive when someone challenges your position. This is what we do around here.

If you can't have a discussion with someone that disagrees with you maybe a discussion board isn't for you.

No need to get so defensive when someone challenges your position. This is what we do around here.

Honest debate I love. Arguing because you are ill at me about previous Thrash talk and want to pick something else to argue about because of the poster is totally different. I guarantee that if you had said what I said you would have got no such response from Smoot or anyone else. Guaranteed.

It wasn't a "I don't think Henderson can get it done here" but more of an argument towards the poster than the topic. Let's be honest here and not hide behind "challenging your position" nonsense. When the debate is an honest one you will here no worrisome comments from me. Why would I get mad if someone doesn't think Henderson can get it done. Clearly I wouldn't. It's how it is said rather than what is said. If you don't like me then just say so and not hide behind if you challenge my position I get mad nonsense. It seems personal with you and Smoot. Not the topic.

Be honest and just kick me off the board rather than disingenuous debate. We know the score. We've been at it before. Not once have we ever agreed and I remember it being ugly before. So let's not say it is the topic anymore. Do what you must.