Dialogue of the Gods?

Observation of socialized fear not withstanding
is not simply accepting a dysfunction as being part of
"normalized reality" a dysfunction in and of itself?

This is my "complaint" about Ken Wilber who simply
states the problem very well however that is like him
reporting on and documenting the obvious. What is
not obvious is "the solution." If someone is "wise"
then would it not make sense for them to speak to
the solution issue?

Perhaps the "human realm" is the human realm because
it is a dysfunctional situation and there are NO solutions
in that realm because the human realm is based upon
a faulty premise with the human brain based upon faulty
programming?

Attempting to be a leader in the human realm would
appear to be a no-win situation.

I bring all this up as a means of attempting to address
some of Bohm's frustrations and give words to the
process of an attempt at solutions. Captain Kirk did
not appreciate the idea of the "no-win scenario" of the
Kobayashi Maru computer simulation so he reprogrammed
the computer. Even though his instructors and fellow
students noticed that he had "cheated" he figured that
what sense did it make to be "tricked" into thinking that
there was such a thing as a no-win situation in the first
place and that there is ALWAYS a solution?

This is the situation that I believe that we are in today.
Some one person or group is playing God and they
are "expecting" that no one will notice how bad their
"acting" is not to mention their faulty logic (non-logic).
What sense does it make to "permit" such people to
continue doing such ludicrous things?

True power has to do with the ability to "verbalize" an
alternative in a language that can be understood by
someone who has physically destructive power.
It is fearful people who deem it necessary to have
physically destructive weapons in the first place.
When will "we" begin speaking the solutions into
existence as I am doing now? Complaints are useless.

"In the beginning was the WORD." God "spoke" the
world into existence in six days and on the seventh
day he rested. He "created" the "idea" of a week
having seven days, a small enough set of days
that a "human being" (simple-minded person)
could work with or handle in small chunks like
eating an entire elephant one bite at a time.

In other words, God in the form of a man created
or designed a "scenario" where people would not
"need" to "think and reason" very much such that
they could be "made" to do things that the gods
wanted them to do. In still other words, at the time
of the original telling of the story and then the writing
of the Bible God had created institutionalized slavery
which is spoken about profusely in the form of the
metaphor of "the sheep and the shepherd tending
his flock."

Of course it was not the "universe" or the Earth that
was created in seven days, it was the "human world"
or the artificial "contextualization" of what a "human"
is that was "created." Basically it was the "downgrading"
of "fellow gods" who were not gods at all until something
"less" was imagined by one of them. So God may have
created man in his own image but he gave him less
brain programming by "forcing" a "teaching" on him.
God "dumbed down" his own children or the children
of another tribe by telling stories of a "contrived" reality
that effectively prohibited the children from learning
intuitively on their own.

The "God in human form" made it look like people
behind the scenes like himself were responsible for
the chaordic organization of matter and energy that
had evolved into a natural balance and thereby he
gained "psychological" power over the people whom
he "deprived" of having "natural" intuitive abilities
(true power).

This is why the process of Dialogue needs "some"
form of leadership or perhaps directorship or guidance
counselor person of sorts to insure that there is a
consistent awareness of the need to think in terms of
a solution orientation as opposed to a complaint
orientation with questions like, "If you were to imagine
a solution to the problem that YOU are communicating
what might that solution be?" Otherwise the "attempt"
at Dialogue deteriorates into argumentative rhetoric
and soon leads to the end of the Dialogue. No actual
solutions need be verbalized during the Dialogue nor
do any specific decisions need to be made. There is
no Dialogue as long as there is "only" complaints being
verbalized. Dialogue takes place when when people
reach a higher level of awareness as the result of
listening to a point of view other than their own.

Remember, there are really no problems at all. The
"solution" is not in the "human" realm as it is the
realization that there is an error in the initial premise
of the imagined problem. So, the "Dialogue Facilitator"
needs to be aware of this and "guide" the Dialogue
toward this realization by paying very close attention
to the dysfunctional aspects of the languaging of the
people who are participating in the Dialogue and without
making anyone "wrong" inquire into alternative ways of
thinking or looking at the issue in question.

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