He's a bust based on my expectations. I expected a fiery competitor who was going to contribute to a winning culture and benefit the Cavs franchise in the long run. I was wrong about the guy. He's definitely a bust at this point.

if the team that picks you number 1 still tanks 2 years in a row after the draft it shows that they dont trust you to carry the team to the playoffs let alone a championship. bust confirmed.

well when you consider that the cavs trusted lebron (lebrons better then kyrie) to carry them to a championship and it didnt work out can youu blame them for thinking one star player isnt good enough to win? they are trying to build a winner not sign a bunch of crappy free agents with no star potential. so they need to draft. to draft another good player or two they need to tank.

I was comparing second year Durant to Irving. Westbrook vs Irving was never a necessary comparison.

Also 2nd year Westbrook would involve a 3rd year Durant. Third year Durant is certainly better than all of Kyrie's supporting cast added together.

Sorry dude, when you reply to budadii I think it's automatically a goatbrook discussion. So you feel as if 3rd year kyrie led cavs can succeed. We'll see. And then you can trade the entire rockets roster for kyrie if they don't.

Sorry dude, when you reply to budadii I think it's automatically a goatbrook discussion. So you feel as if 3rd year kyrie led cavs can succeed. We'll see. And then you can trade the entire rockets roster for kyrie if they don't.

Dude is a top 5 point guard this season, by no definition is he a bust. and if you question his ability to help his team win, I guess the games you're watching are the cavs 5-5 practice games.

He might occasionally have a dumb hero ball type quarter but more often than not the guy helps his team win. And the hero ball thing is a part of growing up and maturing. He's already a ridiculously talented player, and he'll add more to his game.