Grades from a home school don't mean much. All the kids I have talked to are above a 3.5, many at 4.0. The key measure to compare is the SAT. The average home school score is 1065, math and reading. Stuyvesant 1400. Laurel Springs does not say what its average SAT is except to say it is over the national average. That is consistent with the 1065, which is over the national average. I believe most hp junior tennis players are bright and could attend a top high school and do well. My point is parents should recognize that when they home school for tennis in the preteen and teen years they are making a choice of tennis over academics. Not saying that is good or bad. Just that this is what the evidence says.

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He did take a practice run for the heck of it and your correct his sore I believe was in the 2000 range but with more focus I am sure he could bump it up .

Thats the answer I expected. History is not repeating itself in regards to kids competing with engineers from India and China. History is not repeating itself in regards to hedge fund managers making billions making up pretend financial instruments.

Kids today do not have the chance for one spouse to work the other care for kids, make $40,000 yet buy a house for $50,000 and sell it for $250,000 and retire to FL. like grandpa did. To have large pensions, rely on SS as seniors. That history which pays the bills is not ever coming back.

Sorry, today's kids need to worry about the ever changing future, not the past.

I'm not so sure about your last line. with me being an A.P. U.S History teacher I think it's very important to learn about the past and yes history does repeat itself just change around some names and really pay attention to how it's repeating itself constantly.

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Awesome that you are a history teacher. My daughter took APUSH as a junior and really loved that class.

He did take a practice run for the heck of it and your correct his sore I believe was in the 2000 range but with more focus I am sure he could bump it up .

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Uh huh... add this to the bullsh*t list just like everything else. So with all his other freakish athletic accomplishments that you like to tout, he also just "for the heck of it" has SAT scores good enough to get into Harvard or Yale? Oh, but college isn't the goal so don't take it officially. He's a prodigy and a genius and a freak athlete, and it's all because of you. Sure, Brad.

Here is a hint when exaggerating (read: lying): try and at least make your body of work within the realm of possibility.:roll:

From all accounts DB is a very bright kid. I'm assuming that the academics are taught more by his mom than his dad (based on spelling and word usage). No evidence to doubt that the kid can score high on test. Pound on his dad, but not the kid.

I'm not so sure about your last line. with me being an A.P. U.S History teacher I think it's very important to learn about the past and yes history does repeat itself just change around some names and really pay attention to how it's repeating itself constantly.

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Nice to hear you are a hs teacher. History is very important. Can't figure out a solution to pblms if we don't know what got us here. Also helps to know how the great leaders, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln, Churchill, Roosevelt, thought and handled things.

If the USTA offered to let your child come and train for free would you let them go? I would have to say yes because of financial reasons. I would rather train full time with my daughters coach but financially my wife and i could not afford it. I know people talk bad about player development but if your child was given the chance to train there and everything was free would you say no?

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Ga tennis,

Have you looked into the current coaches' situation at Boca? You probably saw the HP coach job posting on this board the other day.

I heard a couple of highly-ranked, pro-aspired juniors in our section who have got financial support from USTA to train with the current coaches, tournament fees, travel expense, etc. without moving to Boca. They have to play certain tourneys and occasionally go to Boca for training.
Your daughter just started to play USTA tourneys so might not be in that situation yet but it is worth exploring that alternate route....so she can continue with HW.

If you choose for her to go full time at Boca, will you or your wife move to be with her so could see her daily or at least every weekend? At 10, she is too young to be by herself IMO. Besides...I'm sure you could not live more than a few days without seeing her hit tennis ball...

Have you looked into the current coaches' situation at Boca? You probably saw the HP coach job posting on this board the other day.

I heard a couple of highly-ranked, pro-aspired juniors in our section who have got financial support from USTA to train with the current coaches, tournament fees, travel expense, etc. without moving to Boca. They have to play certain tourneys and occasionally go to Boca for training.
Your daughter just started to play USTA tourneys so might not be in that situation yet but it is worth exploring that alternate route....so she can continue with HW.

If you choose for her to go full time at Boca, will you or your wife move to be with her so could see her daily or at least every weekend? At 10, she is too young to be by herself IMO. Besides...I'm sure you could not live more than a few days without seeing her hit tennis ball...

I would explore whether you can get financial support from the USTA and stay at home with your current coach. She may have to agree to go to Boca 3 or 4 times a year. If your player is 4 star or higher most local coaches will give a discount if you have limited resources. Sometimes a flat fee for the year- which can work out to big savings. Coaches don't mind cutting their price for the best players. It attracts parents with deep pockets who believe, mistakenly, that the coach has a magic wand. He/she will wave it a few times and their kid will be great too.

She has not been asked.I would move my whole family down there with her. I can't go a day without my baby girl!!!!!

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My daughter played a girl in a regional G12 tourney a couple of years ago who trained at Boca. I talked with her mother during that match. She said both of her kids commuted daily to Boca. They lived in Miami. The girl was homeschooled and wanted to be a pro. Her older brother, may be 15 did not want to be a pro, in regular school but still go daily to train at Boca. They were local there and it seemed they could get invited there easily. Another father of a gold ball winner I talked to briefly during a match at Winter national told me his daughter was not home schooled, go to Boca or Carson occasionally. She is a USTAPD kid but not home schooled.

Uh huh... add this to the bullsh*t list just like everything else. So with all his other freakish athletic accomplishments that you like to tout, he also just "for the heck of it" has SAT scores good enough to get into Harvard or Yale? Oh, but college isn't the goal so don't take it officially. He's a prodigy and a genius and a freak athlete, and it's all because of you. Sure, Brad.

Here is a hint when exaggerating (read: lying): try and at least make your body of work within the realm of possibility.:roll:

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Wow that was simply beautiful. I don't think Mozart, Michelangelo or Shakespeare could have said it so eloquently. Certainly Robin Williams would not have made me laugh so hard.

Wow that was simply beautiful. I don't think Mozart, Michelangelo or Shakespeare could have said it so eloquently. Certainly Robin Williams would not have made me laugh so hard.

Thank you

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I laughed pretty hard also this idi*t, has never spent a day with us , never been to our house , has never met us and if he did was for 10 mins if that and with that said knows exactley what is going on , this is what i call a complete idio*t peole should send their kids with him around the world only to get 0 results of any significants .

This is why he is in France looking for the magic wond or the magic coach that can help out his top players he has with them "he cant",,what are those top players names BMC96 ?? will see how quick you spit those names up!

I laughed pretty hard also this idi*t, has never spent a day with us , never been to our house , has never met us and if he did was for 10 mins if that and with that said knows exactley what is going on , this is what i call a complete idio*t peole should send their kids with him around the world only to get 0 results of any significants .

This is why he is in France looking for the magic wond or the magic coach that can help out his top players he has with them "he cant",,what are those top players names BMC96 ?? will see how quick you spit those names up!

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Uh... I'm not a coach, nor have I ever been to France. Your memory is keeping pace with your writing skills, Brad!

I laughed pretty hard also this idi*t, has never spent a day with us , never been to our house , has never met us and if he did was for 10 mins if that and with that said knows exactley what is going on , this is what i call a complete idio*t peole should send their kids with him around the world only to get 0 results of any significants .

This is why he is in France looking for the magic wond or the magic coach that can help out his top players he has with them "he cant",,what are those top players names BMC96 ?? will see how quick you spit those names up!

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Yea man I feel ya. Hey one question I got wrong on that test which Deit probably got right. This one really got me man.

If 4(x+y) (x-y) = 40 and x-y=20, what is the value of x+y?

Oh wow, I got this one wrong too. Hey man please try to get the big man to get this for me.

A small company has some free movie tickets to distribute to its employees. If each employee gets 5 tickets, there will be 15 left over. If 5 employees will receive 7 tickets, and none will be left over. How many tickets does the company have?

Yea man I feel ya. Hey one question I got wrong on that test which Deit probably got right. This one really got me man.

If 4(x+y) (x-y) = 40 and x-y=20, what is the value of x+y?

Oh wow, I got this one wrong too. Hey man please try to get the big man to get this for me.

A small company has some free movie tickets to distribute to its employees. If each employee gets 5 tickets, there will be 15 left over. If 5 employees will receive 7 tickets, and none will be left over. How many tickets does the company have?

Whew dude that one was rough, can you get the big Deit to help me.

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(x+y) = 0.5

seems like a really easy problem

your 2nd math problem isn't clearly written

So with all his other freakish athletic accomplishments that you like to tout, he also just "for the heck of it" has SAT scores good enough to get into Harvard or Yale? Oh, but college isn't the goal so don't take it officially. He's a prodigy and a genius and a freak athlete, and it's all because of you. Sure, Brad.

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Well we already know he is a very good tennis player. I don't think Brad has lied about his "athletic accomplishments." They are there on the web for everyone to see.

I don't see why it is so hard to believe that he has a decent SAT score as well.

Well we already know he is a very good tennis player. I don't think Brad has lied about his "athletic accomplishments." They are there on the web for everyone to see.

I don't see why it is so hard to believe that he has a decent SAT score as well.

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I think why i am so turned off to the college deal is all the reps on here for college and their lack of simple knowledge , lets say for one taking a sample test out of a book , on line , going to a place of testing to do a trial run before the real deal a year and a half from now ect. very possible but can not happen these days I guess .

Soianko I read jealousy a mile away and shortcomings in life most on here have then there are the few like yourself that are content .

Yea man I feel ya. Hey one question I got wrong on that test which Deit probably got right. This one really got me man.

If 4(x+y) (x-y) = 40 and x-y=20, what is the value of x+y?

Oh wow, I got this one wrong too. Hey man please try to get the big man to get this for me.

A small company has some free movie tickets to distribute to its employees. If each employee gets 5 tickets, there will be 15 left over. If 5 employees will receive 7 tickets, and none will be left over. How many tickets does the company have?

Whew dude that one was rough, can you get the big Deit to help me.

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Your mom and I hung out one night many years ago I have bad genetics and it has come back to haunt me can you figure out my flawed offspring son?

Well we already know he is a very good tennis player. I don't think Brad has lied about his "athletic accomplishments." They are there on the web for everyone to see.

I don't see why it is so hard to believe that he has a decent SAT score as well.

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Because the claim is not just a "decent score". It is a score way above his peer group, home schooled kids. I am told, by an Ivy coach, only 1 or 2 home schooled kids in the country score that high. And it is usually a girl. The score claimed is comparable to what a Stuyvesant student scores. In addition he ran the 40 yd dash in a time equal to Andrew Luck and Cam Newton- the last two first draft choices of the NFL- and considered 2 of the best college athletes ever at the quarterback position. Draw your own conclusions.

Because the claim is not just a "decent score". It is a score way above his peer group, home schooled kids. I am told, by an Ivy coach, only 1 or 2 home schooled kids in the country score that high. And it is usually a girl. The score claimed is comparable to what a Stuyvesant student scores. In addition he ran the 40 yd dash in a time equal to Andrew Luck and Cam Newton- the last two first draft choices of the NFL- and considered 2 of the best college athletes ever at the quarterback position. Draw your own conclusions.

Because the claim is not just a "decent score". It is a score way above his peer group, home schooled kids. I am told, by an Ivy coach, only 1 or 2 home schooled kids in the country score that high. And it is usually a girl. The score claimed is comparable to what a Stuyvesant student scores. In addition he ran the 40 yd dash in a time equal to Andrew Luck and Cam Newton- the last two first draft choices of the NFL- and considered 2 of the best college athletes ever at the quarterback position. Draw your own conclusions.

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My offer to you if your in the So.Cal Area we start right start right after the next month on speed and strength combinations over a 3 week period , by Jan 1st he will be peeking get a hold of me through my youtube account bring out your stop watch and report back to this board the times you record.

If he does not break 4.7 I hand you $100.00 if he does you hand me 2 offers there let me know when you would like to meet .

BTW board QB's dont train to run they drop back and look to throw from a pocket most our tennis kids start from the age 7 or 8 yrs old racing down balls .
Its amazing when you decide to sidetrack and get your player with and elite runner at the olympic level to teach him how to run correctly with the foundation that has been there from the beginning .

Most on here dont believe it cause they have never thought of taking there player down that road and are not wanting to believe some uneducated guy thought it up and did it and is getting those times .
I am ok with you guys holding your positions and more then anything hope you encourage everyone you meet it cant be done it will help me out a lot with my project. To that i say thanx ahead of time.

Because the claim is not just a "decent score". It is a score way above his peer group, home schooled kids. I am told, by an Ivy coach, only 1 or 2 home schooled kids in the country score that high. And it is usually a girl. The score claimed is comparable to what a Stuyvesant student scores. In addition he ran the 40 yd dash in a time equal to Andrew Luck and Cam Newton- the last two first draft choices of the NFL- and considered 2 of the best college athletes ever at the quarterback position. Draw your own conclusions.

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I don't believe that only 1 or 2 home-schooled kids got above a 2000 on the SAT.

Or are you saying only 1 or 2 tennis playing kids or only 1 or 2 kids who applied to that particular Ivy who wanted to play on the tennis team got above 2000 on the SAT?

The last permutation is the only reasonably accurate thing the Ivy coach could have said and that has nothing to do with Deiton.

Brad did not say the boy got a 2400, he said Deiton has scored in the "2000 range" (presumably on practice tests). That really is not a far fetched scenario.

And yes, that is a "decent" score. In my daughter's graduating class kids who were shooting for Ivies were trying to score over 2200-2300 and taking the test multiple times over sophomore, junior and senior year to do so (including test prep and private tutoring).

BTW, you are talking about the Stuyvesant HS average not their top scores...so yes, that is a decent score, not hardly some impossible feat for a smart kid (who may have taken quite a bit of test prep for all we know).

It' a pattern. He exaggerates everything. Take a stroll throgh his various posts and you'll see that his "project" (his word) does everything at top human levels... And all because of Brad's superior methods and intelligence.

Look, I've never rooted against DB and think he's a good player and likely a bright kid, but Brad is a serial liar. This is not just putting a little shine on your kids' ability, which we all do from time to time. It's over the top and people eat it up. That's all I'm pointing out.

It' a pattern. He exaggerates everything. Take a stroll throgh his various posts and you'll see that his "project" (his word) does everything at top human levels... And all because of Brad's superior methods and intelligence.

Look, I've never rooted against DB and think he's a good player and likely a bright kid, but Brad is a serial liar. This is not just putting a little shine on your kids' ability, which we all do from time to time. It's over the top and people eat it up. That's all I'm pointing out.

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Well the offer stands for you also , bring your stopwatch! Find out if just good old fashion hard work is some special intelligence or what I have been exaggerating the whole time "good old fashion hard work" did you you get the method I said it 2x so you would. ?

I don't believe that only 1 or 2 home-schooled kids got above a 2000 on the SAT.

Or are you saying only 1 or 2 tennis playing kids or only 1 or 2 kids who applied to that particular Ivy who wanted to play on the tennis team got above 2000 on the SAT?

The last permutation is the only reasonably accurate thing the Ivy coach could have said and that has nothing to do with Deiton.

Brad did not say the boy got a 2400, he said Deiton has scored in the "2000 range" (presumably on practice tests). That really is not a far fetched scenario.

And yes, that is a "decent" score. In my daughter's graduating class kids who were shooting for Ivies were trying to score over 2200-2300 and taking the test multiple times over sophomore, junior and senior year to do so (including test prep and private tutoring).

BTW, you are talking about the Stuyvesant HS average not their top scores...so yes, that is a decent score, not hardly some impossible feat for a smart kid (who may have taken quite a bit of test prep for all we know).

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Believe what you want to. He has the SAT scores of a Stuyvesant student. The 40 yard dash time of a #1 NFL draft choice. I heard about his massive 125 or 130 mph serve. Do you believe that too? Problem is I saw him play after being told of the serve.You know what, I saw nothing faintly resembling a masive 125 or 130 mph serve. The kid's a good player, but not the level his coach or father claims.

Believe what you want to. He has the SAT scores of a Stuyvesant student. The 40 yard dash time of a #1 NFL draft choice. I heard about his massive 125 or 130 mph serve. Do you believe that too? Problem is I saw him play after being told of the serve.You know what, I saw nothing faintly resembling a masive 125 or 130 mph serve. The kid's a good player, but not the level his coach or father claims.

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Did you have a radar gun in your hand or was there one on the court he played ? Answer is No, so that is and argument neither of us can win , bringing a stopwatch out can get to the bottom of the 40 times.
Are you up for the challenge or are you a coward like the rest of the screen-hiders on here ?

Did you have a radar gun in your hand or was there one on the court he played ? Answer is No, so that is and argument neither of us can win , bringing a stopwatch out can get to the bottom of the 40 times.
Are you up for the challenge or are you a coward like the rest of the screen-hiders on here ?

Did you have a radar gun in your hand or was there one on the court he played ? Answer is No, so that is and argument neither of us can win , bringing a stopwatch out can get to the bottom of the 40 times.
Are you up for the challenge or are you a coward like the rest of the screen-hiders on here ?

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I understand there was no radar gun. What is your opinion on how fast he was serving at the Peliwo match.

Eyeballing serve speed means nothing. Any claim should be in competition with an official radar. A hand-timed 40 means nothing. It's too short a distance to be accurate in any way. Any claim should be electronically timed, just like published NFL times and official track and field records. A practice test that's "in the range" means nothing. Any claim should be an accredited test and published results. Anything else is just speculative hot air.

Eyeballing serve speed means nothing. Any claim should be in competition with an official radar. A hand-timed 40 means nothing. It's too short a distance to be accurate in any way. Any claim should be electronically timed, just like published NFL times and official track and field records. A practice test that's "in the range" means nothing. Any claim should be an accredited test and published results. Anything else is just speculative hot air.

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The kid lost the match 3 and 3. He didn't serve big. 36 1st serves in, 2 aces. Any frequent observer knows what a 125 mph serve looks like and sounds like. His serve was not fast or overpowering. He held 6 times, got broken 3 times. Kid's very good, not on level with top juniors. Got to do on the court, can't do it with Dad's bragadiccio on TW.

I understand there was no radar gun. What is your opinion on how fast he was serving at the Peliwo match.

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I would say he served a few in the 120's but i also take into count Filip was returning 'great", anything in his strike zone Filip returned at a high rate and with ease , Cant take from Filips returns which made a lot of big serves look average.

Eyeballing serve speed means nothing. Any claim should be in competition with an official radar. A hand-timed 40 means nothing. It's too short a distance to be accurate in any way. Any claim should be electronically timed, just like published NFL times and official track and field records. A practice test that's "in the range" means nothing. Any claim should be an accredited test and published results. Anything else is just speculative hot air.

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I agree but like I said so many on here are ready to say what they "saw" eyeball it , heck even TCF throws out ridiculous statements without even seeing anything with his own eyes and is completely sure of it, no evidence needed for him .

I offer you what i can ,Man up or what do they say "shut up". You guys can shut me down just show up bring your stop watch and if you like we can place money on it and i have a couple of colleges here in So.Cal i can probably get the electronics for you ..

Just let me know when you want to step up or you start sounding like
TCF and his freak athlete girl who would blow Serena off the court , we still would like a video of her .

I agree but like I said so many on here are ready to say what they "saw" eyeball it , heck even TCF throws out ridiculous statements without even seeing anything with his own eyes and is completely sure of it, no evidence needed for him .

I offer you what i can ,Man up or what do they say "shut up". You guys can shut me down just show up bring your stop watch and if you like we can place money on it and i have a couple of colleges here in So.Cal i can probably get the electronics for you ..

Just let me know when you want to step up or you start sounding like
TCF and his freak athlete girl who would blow Serena off the court , we still would like a video of her .

But dont worry will video that in Jupiter very soon or Boca Resort .

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Man up to what? I'm not the one making claims on an internet forum. My post history is all there - never made any claims or statements as to my own or my kids' abilities, results, or phantom future accomplishments. I discovered this forum years ago when researching shoulder surgery. I stayed because I found it a great resource for tips, drills, advice and shared experiences. Not much of that going on these days - mostly bragging, arguing and hubris now. Bummer.

Man up to what? I'm not the one making claims on an internet forum. My post history is all there - never made any claims or statements as to my own or my kids' abilities, results, or phantom future accomplishments. I discovered this forum years ago when researching shoulder surgery. I stayed because I found it a great resource for tips, drills, advice and shared experiences. Not much of that going on these days - mostly bragging, arguing and hubris now. Bummer.

This reminds me of the days when I would go to a bar and there was some tough guy in there acting all tough wanting to fight doing a lot of talking , heres what I would do, I would order a song no one liked but allowed me the whole floor then I would give the tough guy the finger and present the challenge him against me "I love the arm bar or choke "! Guess what happened almost everytime? tough guy changed the subject, act like he didnt notice me but everyone there saw the challenge was there for his taking .

As for BMC96 I knew he wouldnt take the challenge something about electronics and coaching32 he is giving and honest assesment of what he belives is true and I respect that .

This reminds me of the days when I would go to a bar and there was some tough guy in there acting all tough wanting to fight doing a lot of talking , heres what I would do, I would order a song no one liked but allowed me the whole floor then I would give the tough guy the finger and present the challenge him against me "I love the arm bar or choke "! Guess what happened almost everytime? tough guy changed the subject, act like he didnt notice me but everyone there saw the challenge was there for his taking .

As for BMC96 I knew he wouldnt take the challenge something about electronics and coaching32 he is giving and honest assesment of what he belives is true and I respect that .