I get the feeling there might be some unlikely series of results that would leave us missing out due to run rate

I tried to work it out with tie and no results, but it was too complicated. So assuming no ties or no results in the remaining matches, it goes like this (as far as I can see):

1. NED bt BAN and IRE bt SAF and NED bt IRE and SAF bt BAN. We don't even need to win.2. NED bt BAN or IRE bt SAF or SAF bt BAN or IND bt WIN. We just need to win.3. BAN bt NED and SAF bt IRE and BAN bt SAF and WIN bt IND. If we win it will come down to run rate between England and India for 4th and 5th place in the group.

I get the feeling there might be some unlikely series of results that would leave us missing out due to run rate

I tried to work it out with tie and no results, but it was too complicated. So assuming no ties or no results in the remaining matches, it goes like this (as far as I can see):

1. NED bt BAN and IRE bt SAF and NED bt IRE and SAF bt BAN. We don't even need to win.2. NED bt BAN or IRE bt SAF or SAF bt BAN or IND bt WIN. We just need to win.3. BAN bt NED and SAF bt IRE and BAN bt SAF and WIN bt IND. If we win it will come down to run rate between England and India for 4th and 5th place in the group.

This would mean that if England beat West Indies they will go through with 7 points in 3rd place, if it's another tie England will be on 6 points with Bangladesh and will come down to net run rate or whatever they use to determine, lose to the West Indies and England are out with only 5 points in 5th spot!!! Any more shocks and England could well be out.Basically, beat the West Indies and we're ok If we don't, we've only won 2 out of the 6 games and don't deserve to go through!!!!

England eh? Bloody hell! I suppose it depends on which England team turns up. If it's the team that beat the Saffers and had a draw against India i'd back them to win the World Cup. If it's the 'other' side, well..........plane home but i am optimistic as until recently, it was unheard of what we did to the Aussies in their own backyard in the Ashes.

Get to the knock out stage and anything is possible. I seem to remember us struggling in the 20/20 World Cup initially so there is a precedence!

Is covered in (2). Any single one of those results will do regardless of the other results (if there are no ties or no results).

...and by the time the second innings comes around on Thursday we'll know how quickly we need to score or how much to limit their score to to get our run rate ahead of India. If we do that we're through. India v West Indies is a straight winner qualifys, loser goes home (or stays home) match.

If it comes to the last match and India don't need to win to qualify (ie. just needing a close result to maintain NRR), I think they'll go out. Dhoni will go defensive early and they'll choke. They had the matches against us and South Africa in the bag in the final two overs and failed to finish them off!

West Indies could stitch us up if they're chasing, but I still think they'd rather us through than India.