Onkel Buck:phrawgh: Onkel Buck: C'mon subby be fair, people are allowed to "evolve" on an issue, aren't they?

No. Why do you hate Christianity?

We need to get God back in the war on drugs.

Ya think we can wrap up the war on poverty first?

Snark noted. That said, I feel obligated to point out that the war on drugs is a major front in the war on poverty. The artificially high cost of drugs is keeping millions of people in poverty. Their money is being siphoned off by gangsters, both of the drug dealer variety and the law enforcement variety. Their men (and less often women) are being removed from society in their teens and twenties, being put in prisons or graves. Their children are being shot. Their brothers are struggling with addictions that they can't get help for. Their sisters are dying of overdoses due to questionable doses and purity of the drugs. They are dying of infections from dirty needles. Their schools spend more money on security than on education. Their teachers spend too much time dealing with underfed, unloved, filthy children whose parents--if they're lucky enough to have two--are imprisoned, stoned, or committing crimes. Government resources that should be spent making them productive citizens are instead paying for cops and prisons. Ending the war on drugs would be a major victory in the war on poverty.

thurstonxhowell:Some people here seem like they'd rather keep their enemies enemies than win over friends. Events in my life changed my parents' opinions on a few subjects, why should I get mad at this guy because the same thing happened to him?

shiatting all over him for having a change of heart is not going to help anyone.

Fark him. There is a difference between forgiving a Nazi sympathizer vs. forgiving the guy who ran the gas chamber. Some people are beyond redemption.

thurstonxhowell:Some people here seem like they'd rather keep their enemies enemies than win over friends. Events in my life changed my parents' opinions on a few subjects, why should I get mad at this guy because the same thing happened to him?

shiatting all over him for having a change of heart is not going to help anyone.

This wasn't a mere "difference of opinion", this guy has done harm. He has advocated for policies, put people in jail, and ruined lives. I don't think a mere "my bad" is sufficient.

And I'll go you one further. Dude had his change of heart because of personal interests (his son), so there is a fair amount of self interest here. Is this guy advocating for change? Is he calling his contacts and helping the cause? If his son were cured tomorrow, would he continue to support medical marijuana or would he go back to his old views?

More than 15 years ago, McDonald's son Bennet Black was riding a "go-ped" in the intersection of Guadalupe and Val Vista in Gilbert. He was hit by a car traveling 45 miles-per-hour and suffered massive brain damage.A year later, he developed epilepsy. Epilepsy medication saved his life, but left Bennet so nauseous he would be unable to eat for days at a time."I was just trying to figure out how on earth to work with these new disabilities," Black said."It is a constant battle for life," said McDonald. "And the only thing that helps with the nausea is marijuana."----

Typical goddamn baby boomer, only shows empathy for something once his personal world is affected. It's nice this fcuukstick has come around, I'm sure that will be of great consolation to all those he sent to jail as a judge and U.S. Attorney.

It would be *almost* be worth Arizona repealing the law just to make this asshole's kid into a law breaker and potential felon./No, not really. But self righteous assholes like this really piss me off.

StrangeQ:way south: This.When caught in a war you want to stop you can't start shooting the generals who finally come to your side.For whatever personal reason that he's made this choice, He's someone that's seen the error of his ways, and you use his conversion to strengthen the argument against this war.

You can when judging from their actions it is apparent that they care nothing for anyone but themselves and will just as quickly turn on you when it become favorable to do so.

When I was young, I discovered that the best way to learn tolerance was to have a gay friend, a black friend, whatever. Personal experience can teach you the error of your ways.Of course, we all know people without empathy. They will not, or can not, see another's point of view until it becomes their own.

Oh, I see. So now that it's affecting your family personally and not just some wastoid, pot-head loser who just wants to get stoned, suddenly it is an important issue worthy of consideration.

This guy can go fark himself and I hope his son dies in the most painful way possible.

I understand the angst, but I think we need to accept converts with open arms. All of them, regardless of motivation.

This.When caught in a war you want to stop you can't start shooting the generals who finally come to your side.For whatever personal reason that he's made this choice, He's someone that's seen the error of his ways, and you use his conversion to strengthen the argument against this war.

/and to be technical about it, fighting the war wasn't one mans choice. It was a decision made and enforced by elected politicians from both sides./If you want to blame someone for the continuing war, look at the names on your ballot.