Re: [Inkscape-user] Transparent text or text mask.

Thanks Rob, but.. did you try it? Is it working for you? It doesn't for me. Neither in home computer, nor in the one I have got where I work..
As far as i use some text, grouped or not with some background, the bitmap just disappears completely when masking it. I tryied many combinations, white text black background, black text white background, with gradients et cetera.. nothing working .. :(
Lucio
.Draw a black rectangle the same size as the bitmap.
.Put your text on top of this, in white.
.
.Group the black rectangle and the white text.
.
.Select the image and the group, then Object->Mask->Set
.
.This will give you the bitmap with the text "cut out" from it.
.
.(You will have to release the mask to be able to edit the text in the
.group).
.
.-Rob A>
.
.On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 9:05 AM, loscotec@...:
.
.> Hello everybody!
.>
.> Does anybody know how to use text as object-mask?
.>
.> I need to cut a text in a picture so that the text would actually be
.> transparent!
.>
.> The goal is easily achieved converting text in path, and grouping it with a
.> background, and then using it as a mask for the picture. But in this way I'm
.> loosing the chance to change what is written in a second moment.
.>
.> Reading some references, I saw that text objects should work as any other
.> objects about masking, but they they don't.
.>
.> What am I missing?
.>
.> Lucio
.
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Thanks Rob, but.. did you try it? Is it working for you? It doesn't for me. Neither in home computer, nor in the one I have got where I work..
As far as i use some text, grouped or not with some background, the bitmap just disappears completely when masking it. I tryied many combinations, white text black background, black text white background, with gradients et cetera.. nothing working .. :(
Lucio
.Draw a black rectangle the same size as the bitmap.
.Put your text on top of this, in white.
.
.Group the black rectangle and the white text.
.
.Select the image and the group, then Object->Mask->Set
.
.This will give you the bitmap with the text "cut out" from it.
.
.(You will have to release the mask to be able to edit the text in the
.group).
.
.-Rob A>
.
.On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 9:05 AM, loscotec@...:
.
.> Hello everybody!
.>
.> Does anybody know how to use text as object-mask?
.>
.> I need to cut a text in a picture so that the text would actually be
.> transparent!
.>
.> The goal is easily achieved converting text in path, and grouping it with a
.> background, and then using it as a mask for the picture. But in this way I'm
.> loosing the chance to change what is written in a second moment.
.>
.> Reading some references, I saw that text objects should work as any other
.> objects about masking, but they they don't.
.>
.> What am I missing?
.>
.> Lucio
.
.. Caminante no hay
camino, solo se hace
camino al andar ..
--- o
meglio ---
.. Caminante el
destino no es al
final de el viaje,
pero en todo el
andar ..

It is! (When I apply the mask I don't actually see the bitmap)
I even tryed selecting all the stuff in a different order.. no way!
:(
Lucio
...Yes, I did try it. And it worked fine.
.
.Do you have the z-order correct? The bitmap must be below the grouped
.text/rectangle.
.
.-Rob A>
.
.
.
.On 6/23/08, loscotec@... <loscotec@...> wrote:
.> Thanks Rob, but.. did you try it? Is it working for you? It doesn't for me.
.> Neither in home computer, nor in the one I have got where I work..
.>
.> As far as i use some text, grouped or not with some background, the bitmap
.> just disappears completely when masking it. I tryied many combinations,
.> white text black background, black text white background, with gradients et
.> cetera.. nothing working .. :(
.>
.> Lucio
.>
.>
.> .Draw a black rectangle the same size as the bitmap.
.> .Put your text on top of this, in white.
.> .
.> .Group the black rectangle and the white text.
.> .
.> .Select the image and the group, then Object->Mask->Set
.> .
.> .This will give you the bitmap with the text "cut out" from it.
.> .
.> .(You will have to release the mask to be able to edit the text in the
.> .group).
.> .
.> .-Rob A>
.> .
.> .On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 9:05 AM, loscotec@...:
.> .
.> .> Hello everybody!
.> .>
.> .> Does anybody know how to use text as object-mask?
.> .>
.> .> I need to cut a text in a picture so that the text would actually be
.> .> transparent!
.> .>
.> .> The goal is easily achieved converting text in path, and grouping it with
.> a
.> .> background, and then using it as a mask for the picture. But in this way
.> I'm
.> .> loosing the chance to change what is written in a second moment.
.> .>
.> .> Reading some references, I saw that text objects should work as any other
.> .> objects about masking, but they they don't.
.> .>
.> .> What am I missing?
.> .>
.> .> Lucio
.> .
.>
.> .. Caminante no hay
.> camino, solo se hace
.> camino al andar ..
.>
.>
.> --- o
.> meglio ---
.>
.> .. Caminante el
.> destino no es al
.> final de el viaje,
.> pero en todo el
.> andar ..
.>
.>
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Hi everybody, thanks for all the replies, and sorry if I'm not replying you, due to an exam I haven't got much free time.
Hystrix.. what do you mean with flowed text? And how to unflow it if necessary? please notice that I've got the italian version of inkscape. I wanted to switch to the english one, but I don't know how to do that as well.. !!
Thanks ROb for the example.. it is working, so that helped me understanding that my problem is nor a corrupted installation nor a wrong procedure. Can it be due to font choosen? I tried with many, though.. still no way.. as soon as I will have tried a little further, I will send you an example not working.
Thanks very much for your kind help!
Lucio
.On 6/21/08, loscotec@... <loscotec@...> wrote:
.> Hello everybody!
.>
.> Does anybody know how to use text as object-mask?
.>
.> I need to cut a text in a picture so that the text would actually be transparent!
.>
.> The goal is easily achieved converting text in path, and grouping it with a background, and then using it as a mask for the picture. But in this way I'm loosing the chance to change what is written in a second moment.
.>
.> Reading some references, I saw that text objects should work as any other objects about masking, but they they don't.
.>
.> What am I missing?
.>
.> Lucio
.I tried it and found out that it doesn't work with flowed text, maybe
.that was your case. If so, can you try unflowing the text?
.
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I can confirm that flowed text does not work with masks.
Lucio, in the english version, you unflow text with Text->Unflow, or
Shift-Alt-W
-Rob A>
> Hi everybody, thanks for all the replies, and sorry if I'm not replying
> you, due to an exam I haven't got much free time.
>
> Hystrix.. what do you mean with flowed text? And how to unflow it if
> necessary? please notice that I've got the italian version of inkscape. I
> wanted to switch to the english one, but I don't know how to do that as
> well.. !!
>
> Thanks ROb for the example.. it is working, so that helped me understanding
> that my problem is nor a corrupted installation nor a wrong procedure. Can
> it be due to font choosen? I tried with many, though.. still no way.. as
> soon as I will have tried a little further, I will send you an example not
> working.
>
> Thanks very much for your kind help!
>
> Lucio
>

On 6/25/08, loscotec@... <loscotec@...> wrote:
> Hystrix.. what do you mean with flowed text? And how to unflow it if necessary? please notice that I've got the italian version of inkscape. I wanted to switch to the english one, but I don't know how to do that as well.. !!
Flowed text is text that automatically insert new lines to adapt to a
shape, usually a rectangle but it can be anything. Here's an example.
To flow text you select both the text and the shape and use the 4th
command from the top on the Text menu. The command below it will
unflow the text.
Also when you create a new text dragging the cursor you make flowed
text, when you just click and release the button it just makes text
not flowed.
To change the language I think you can delete (or move) the locale in
the Inkscape installation folder.

Thank you very much for your replies. it was a flowed unflowed text problem. I did not know there were differences in creation method between click and click and drag for text. thank you for teaching it to me! this also solved some problems I had with pattern-filling! thank you.. it is a great improvement for me, even if it would be nice if coders will be able to let all the types (flowed - unflowed and coverted to text) work the same way.. anyone of them as qualities and difects.. but there is no way to use all the qualities of the three.
Lucio
I found not locale in inkscape directory, but I've found this link:
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ#I_am_working_on_a_machine_with_operating_system_xxx_which_has_default_language_yyy_set.2C_but_I_want_to_work_with_Inkscape_menus_in_language_zzz_.28most_likely_English.29.2C_how_can_I_set_this.3F
which worked ! :-)
.On 6/25/08, loscotec@... <loscotec@...> wrote:
.> Hystrix.. what do you mean with flowed text? And how to unflow it if necessary? please notice that I've got the italian version of inkscape. I wanted to switch to the english one, but I don't know how to do that as well.. !!
.
.Flowed text is text that automatically insert new lines to adapt to a
.shape, usually a rectangle but it can be anything. Here's an example.
.To flow text you select both the text and the shape and use the 4th
.command from the top on the Text menu. The command below it will
.unflow the text.
.Also when you create a new text dragging the cursor you make flowed
.text, when you just click and release the button it just makes text
.not flowed.
.
.To change the language I think you can delete (or move) the locale in
.the Inkscape installation folder.
.
.. Caminante no hay
camino, solo se hace
camino al andar ..
--- o
meglio ---
.. Caminante el
destino no es al
final de el viaje,
pero en todo el
andar ..

Yes, I did try it. And it worked fine.
Do you have the z-order correct? The bitmap must be below the grouped
text/rectangle.
-Rob A>
On 6/23/08, loscotec@... <loscotec@...> wrote:
> Thanks Rob, but.. did you try it? Is it working for you? It doesn't for me.
> Neither in home computer, nor in the one I have got where I work..
>
> As far as i use some text, grouped or not with some background, the bitmap
> just disappears completely when masking it. I tryied many combinations,
> white text black background, black text white background, with gradients et
> cetera.. nothing working .. :(
>
> Lucio
>
>
> .Draw a black rectangle the same size as the bitmap.
> .Put your text on top of this, in white.
> .
> .Group the black rectangle and the white text.
> .
> .Select the image and the group, then Object->Mask->Set
> .
> .This will give you the bitmap with the text "cut out" from it.
> .
> .(You will have to release the mask to be able to edit the text in the
> .group).
> .
> .-Rob A>
> .
> .On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 9:05 AM, loscotec@...:
> .
> .> Hello everybody!
> .>
> .> Does anybody know how to use text as object-mask?
> .>
> .> I need to cut a text in a picture so that the text would actually be
> .> transparent!
> .>
> .> The goal is easily achieved converting text in path, and grouping it with
> a
> .> background, and then using it as a mask for the picture. But in this way
> I'm
> .> loosing the chance to change what is written in a second moment.
> .>
> .> Reading some references, I saw that text objects should work as any other
> .> objects about masking, but they they don't.
> .>
> .> What am I missing?
> .>
> .> Lucio
> .
>
> .. Caminante no hay
> camino, solo se hace
> camino al andar ..
>
>
> --- o
> meglio ---
>
> .. Caminante el
> destino no es al
> final de el viaje,
> pero en todo el
> andar ..
>
>
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