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Bhagavata: "By regularly hearing the Bhagavatam and rendering service unto the pure devotee, all that is troublesome to the heart is practically destroyed, and loving service unto the glorious Lord, who is praised with transcendental songs, is established as an irrevocable fact."<br />
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Prabhupada:<br />
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nasta-prayesv abhadresu<br />
nityam bhagavata-sevaya...<br />
[SB 1.2.18]<br />
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Bhagavata: "By regularly hearing the Bhagavatam and rendering service unto the pure devotee, all that is troublesome to the heart is practically destroyed, and loving service unto the glorious Lord, who is praised with transcendental songs, is established as an irrevocable fact."<br />
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Prabhupada:<br />
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nasta-prayesv abhadresu<br />
nityam bhagavata-sevaya...<br />
[SB 1.2.18]<br />
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(sound of small children)<br />
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Bhagavata: Go! Celo.<br />
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Prabhupada: Hm.<br />
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...nityam bhagavata-sevaya<br />
bhagavaty uttama-sloke<br />
bhaktir bhavati naisthiki<br />
[SB 1.2.18]<br />
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Naisthiki. Nistha. From nistha... Nistha means "firmly fixed up." Firmly fixed up. Adau sraddha tatah sadhu-sango 'tha bhajana-kriya tato 'nartha-nivrttih syat tato nistha. Srila Rupa Gosvami has explained how one can be fixed up, nistha. This nistha stage comes when one is freed from anartha. Adau sraddha. Just like you all have come here out of sraddha, some faith, that "Let us go to the Hare Krsna temple, see the arati, or hear from the swamis." This is the beginning, sraddha. To create sraddha, little faith, these centers are established. And one takes to faith, then he gradually advances. Adau sraddha. And that sraddha has been explained by Kaviraja Gosvami, what is sraddha.<br />
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That sraddha, he has said, sraddha-sabde visvasa kahe sudrdha niscaya. Sraddha means firm faith, visvasa, sudrdha niscaya, unflinching. What is that sudrdha niscaya? Krsne bhakti kaile sarva-karma krta haya. This is the beginning of sraddha. Sraddha means... As in the Bhagavad-gita it is said, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. If one is agreeable to this condition, that krsne bhakti kaile, if one agrees, "Yes, if I surrender to Krsna, my all perfection of life is achieved," this is sraddha. Not that "Krsna is also good, and this demigod is also good, you are also good, I am also good. You are also God, I am also God." There is no sraddha. Just like a chaste woman cannot say that every man is good. She'll say, "Only my husband is good." That is chastity. If some woman says that "Any man is good..." Similarly, sraddha means to become chaste, pure krsna-bhakta. That is sraddha.<br />
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sraddha-sabde visvasa kahe sudrdha niscaya<br />
krsne bhakti kaile sarva-karma krta haya<br />
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Now practically you can see. These American and European boys, they began with sraddha. I told them that "Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Krsnas tu bhagavan svayam." They accepted it. They did not present so many rascals, that "Here is another God, here is another God, here is another God." No. Krsne bhakti kaile sarva-karma... They fixed up their faith. That is their fortune. They had no hodge-podge idea. Therefore they are making progress. Adau sraddha. Then sadhu-sanga. That sraddha, that firm faith in Krsna, can be more and more firm by sadhu-sanga. Sadhu-sanga means... Who is sadhu? A sadhu means a devotee. Sadhur eva sa mantavyah [Bg. 9.30]. Who is sadhu? Sadhu means..., does not mean that having a long beard and saffron-color dress. Sadhu means, mahatma means, who is pure devotee.<br />
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That is the explanation in the Bhagavad-gita:<br />
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api cet su-duracaro<br />
bhajate mam ananya-bhak<br />
sadhur eva sa mantavyah<br />
samyag vyavasito hi sah<br />
[Bg. 9.30]<br />
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He is sadhu, even he is su-duracarah. Just like sometimes we find these American, European boys, from our angle of vision, they are deviating little. But Krsna confirms, "Even if he's deviating, still, he's sadhu." Why? Bhajate mam ananya-bhak. "Because he does not know except Me, Krsna." This is the certificate given by Krsna. Sadhur eva sa mantavyah [Bg. 9.30]. Samyak... "Oh, he may be sadhu, but not complete." No. Samyag vyavasito hi sah. He's complete sadhu. So what is the qualification? Now, bhajate mam ananya-bhak. The example you can see, how they are making bhajana by the Deity worship. You'll never find in Calcutta such nice Deity worship. Bhajate mam ananya-bhak. They do not know. All these boys and girls, they do not know anything but Krsna. So this is the qualification, sadhu.<br />
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So we have to associate with such sadhus, who has got unflinching faith in Krsna and fully engaged in Krsna's service. He is sadhu. Bhajate mam ananya-bhak. Mahatmanas tu mam partha daivim prakrtim asritah, bhajanty ananya-manasah [Bg. 9.13]. That is mahatma. We are after mahatma. Who is mahatma? Sa mahatma sudurlabhah. Vasudevah sarvam iti sa mahatma sudurlabhah [Bg. 7.19]. One who's accepted Krsna as everything, such mahatma is very rarely to be seen. Otherwise, so-called mahatmas, they are loitering in the street: "You are God, I am God, everyone is God." Not that kind of mahatma. Mahatma means bhajanti, "He worships Me, Krsna." Krsna is bhajaniya, and we are servant. One who is convinced on this platform, he is mahatma, he is sadhu. So we have to associate with such sadhus.<br />
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Adau sraddha tatah sadhu-sangah. Pure devotee of Krsna. They have no other desire. Anyabhilasita-sunyam [BRS 1.1.11]. They have no other desire. Anyabhilasita-sunyam jnana-karmady-anavrtam, uncovered by the mental speculation or fruitive activities, karma-kanda. Jnana-karmady-anavrtam [Madhya 19.167]. Not covered. If you mix up karma with bhakti, if you mix up jnana with bhakti, or if you mix up yoga, it is contaminated. It is not pure. Pure devotional service is given by Rupa Gosvami: anyabhilasita-sunyam [Madhya 19.167]. No desire for fruitive activities or philosophical speculation or yogic, mystic yogic magic. No. Simply how to satisfy Krsna. That is bhakti. Anukulyena krsnanusilanam. Anukulyena. Anukulyena means what is favorable, what Krsna desires. Just like Arjuna. He did not like to fight. He wanted to be a very nice, nonviolent gentleman. But Krsna was inducing him, "You fight." Then later on, he agreed: "Yes, karisye vacanam tava [Bg. 18.73]." This is anukulyena. "Krsna wants it. Doesn't matter whether it is violent or nonviolent, Krsna wants it. I must do it." This is called anukulyena, not against the desire of Krsna, but in favor of Krsna. This is called anukula, anukula-seva. So anukulyena krsnanusilanam bhaktir uttama. That is first-class bhakti. Not that "If I like it, then I shall do it." That is not anukula. That is pratikula. You like or not like, that doesn't matter. Krsna likes it,; you must do it. That is anukulyena krsnanusilanam.<br />
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So if we associate with sadhu... Sadhu means, mahatma means, who are fully engaged in Krsna's service. That is sadhu. That is mahatma. Therefore it is recommended, adau sraddha tatah sadhu-sangah. And if you associate with sadhu, then bhajana-kriya. If we... Just like so many thousands of Europeans, Americans, they have joined us on account of sadhu-sanga. First of all they come in the temple and hear for some days. Then all of a sudden he becomes shaven-headed. We haven't to request. He takes a bead and bead bag, although he's not initiated. Then, after some days, he approaches, "Please get me initiated." The bhajana-kriya. This is called bhajana-kriya. So we initiate. "Yes, now you are interested, we initiate." We give him hari-nama: "Chant Hare Krsna mantra." This is the first initiation. "And chant sixteen rounds and observe these rules and regulations." Then, when I see, six months or one year, he's doing very nicely, then we accept him as my disciple, the second initiation. So this is bhajana-kriya. Then he's admitted to worship the Deity or cook for the Deity, so many things. Bhajana-kriya.<br />
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Adau sraddha tatah sadhu-sango 'tha bhajana-kriya tato 'nartha-nivrttih syat. If there is bhajana, then he'll be freed from all anarthas. Anartha means unwanted things. Just like one man is smoking. Smoking is not essential for living. If you don't smoke... Just like we don't smoke. That does not mean we are dying. It is an anartha. But anyone who has learned this smoking, he cannot stop it. Anartha. The result of bhajana will be substantiated when anartha-nivrttih syat, he's no more interested with some unwanted things. We have practiced so many unwanted things. The first of all -- illicit sex, making so-called lusty affairs without any married bondage, illicit sex. This is anartha. Why? If you want sex, get yourself married according to sastra. Then there is no hindrance. According to Vedic civilization, the, a girl must be married. But in every country I see the female population is more than the male population. Then how every girl should be married? Therefore in India more than one wife was allowed. Now it is not allowed. That is the Vedic injunction, kanya-dana. The father must get, find out a husband for his daughter. There are many histories, the Kulina brahmana.<br />
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So anartha. We should not create in the society anarthas, unwanted disturbances. The unwanted disturbance is illicit sex. And meat-eating. Meat-eating... Why one should eat meat? No animal foodstuff. Krsna has given so many nice things. Produce. Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita, annad bhavanti bhutani. Krsna never says, mamsad bhavanti bhutani, matsyad bhavanti bhutani. Never says. Annad. Anna, anna. Anna means food grain. Produce sufficient food grain. So the... In the village side you go, hundreds and thousands of acres of land is lying vacant. Nobody is interested. Now they are interested (in) opening slaughterhouse. Kill the poor animals and eat, but don't produce food grain. The whole world, this rascaldom is going on. I have traveled over many countries, all over the world. In Africa there are so much vacant land. In Australia there are so much vacant land. But nobody is producing food grains. They, they have kept some cattles, these cows. They are automatically maintained. There is grass. And when they are fatty, take them and send to the slaughterhouse and eat. But the land is lying vacant. The land is lying vacant.<br />
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So therefore people are not following the rules and regulations given by God or by nature's own way. They have invented their own way of living condition. Therefore they are suffering. Now we see in Calcutta or any other... Now it is a problem. Everywhere the problem will be food shortage and fuel shortage, power shortage. This is the prediction of many, many great scientists. Because people are committing so many sinful life, they must starve. That is the punishment. That is the punishment. These sinful rascals must be punished. Tan aham dvisatah kruran ksipamy ajasram andha-yonisu. These godless persons, dvisatah, envious of God: "Why there should be God? Why Krsna shall be God?", envious...<br />
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So these are dirty things. We began in this chapter that,<br />
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srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah<br />
punya-sravana-kirtanah<br />
hrdy antah-stho hy abhadrani<br />
vidhunoti suhrt satam<br />
[SB 1.2.17]<br />
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Abhadrani, all dirty things, they are accumulating. So by hearing about Krsna... Nityam bhagavata-sevaya. Nityam bhagavata-sevaya [SB 1.2.18]. You have to hear... Not that Bhagavata-saptaha. I don't find this Bhagavata-saptaha in anywhere in the Bhagavad, Bhagavata. But they have invented some means for professional reading. Nei. In the Bhagavata it is said..., not said, saptaha bhagavata-sevaya. Why it is said, nityam bhagavata-sevaya? You have to hear Bhagavatam daily, regularly. That is the injunction of Bhagavatam. You have to hear from, not from the professional men, professional reciters. Bhagavata-saptaha, and then, after one saptaha, you do your all nonsense things and he takes some money for livelihood, for maintaining his wife and children. And so many umbrellas, so many suits, so many utensils, and sell in the market, get some money, and maintain them. This kind of bhagavata-seva will not help. Nityam bhagavata-seva. Caitanya Mahaprabhu's order is bhagavata pada giya bhagavata-sthane(?). If you want to realize what is Bhagavata, then you must go and learn Srimad-Bhagavatam from a person whose life is Bhagavatam, not the professional Bhagavata reciters.<br />
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So here it is said... And who will recite Bhagavatam daily unless he has dedicated his life for Bhagavan? He's bhagavata. Grantha-bhagavata, and the person bhagavata. Bhagavata. Maha-bhagavata. A person, a devotee is called bhagavata. And the grantha-bhagavata. So we have to serve both. We have to hear daily Srimad-Bhagavatam from the realized person. Nityam bhagavata-sevaya [SB 1.2.18]. The guru, the devotee, they are bhagavata. So we have to serve, we have to please them. That is also said in the Bhagavad-gita. Tad viddhi pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya [Bg. 4.34]. If you want to learn the transcendental subject matter, then you must adopt three things. Tad viddhi... First of all surrender. Find out that kind of person where you can surrender. If there is no surrender, it is not possible.<br />
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So the, the Vaisnava philosophy begins from surrender. Therefore Krsna says, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. That is the order of Krsna. And what is the difference between Krsna and His representative? The representative says that "You surrender to Krsna." He never says that "You surrender to me. I have become Krsna." That is a nonsense, rascal. He will say the same thing. Therefore he's Krsna's representative. Krsna is personally asking that "You surrender to Me," and it is the duty of the bona fide spiritual master, guru, to say to his disciple that "You surrender to Krsna." He'll never say that "You surrender to Me. I have become Krsna. Now I have realized soul. I have become Bhagavan." He's a rascal.<br />
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So these are the process. Tad viddhi pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya [Bg. 4.34]. Here it is also, the same thing. The same thing is said in a different way. That is sastra. Actually, as Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita... What is Veda? There are four Vedas and 108 Upanisads, then Vedanta-sutra, then so, so many books. All of them are Vedas. And what is the purpose? Vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyah [Bg. 15.15]. You read all the Vedas, all the Puranas, Brahma-sutra, Ramayana, Mahabharata. What is the purpose? To understand Krsna. If you don't understand Krsna, then it is useless. Your so-called study of Vedas are useless. Srama eva hi kevalam. That is the confirmation of Srimad-Bhagavatam.<br />
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dharmah svanusthitah pumsam<br />
visvaksena-kathasu yah<br />
notpadayed yadi ratim<br />
srama eva hi kevalam<br />
[SB 1.2.8]<br />
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You are spoiling your energy. You are... Dharma... A brahmana is executing his brahminical culture very nicely. It is very good. A ksatriya is doing his duty very nicely. That's all right. A vaisya, he's dutying... But the test, whether he's perfect or not, or simply working for nothing, wasting his time, what is that test? That is also stated by Suta Gosvami:<br />
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atah pumbhir dvija-srestha<br />
varnasrama-vibhagasah<br />
svanusthitasya dharmasya<br />
samsiddhir hari-tosanam<br />
[SB 1.2.13]<br />
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He must understand whether by executing his... It doesn't matter whether Hindu or Muslim or this or that. Your duty is, by executing your religious principles, whether you are satisfying Krsna. That is wanted. Tasmin tuste jagat tustam.<br />
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So the Krsna personally says that "You surrender unto Me." That is the only business. There is no other business. Simply to see that "Whether I am satisfying Krsna?" So that will be possible... Here it is said that nasta-prayesu abhadresu. Not completely. There are so many dirty things within our heart. If at once it becomes all cleared, then immediately we are liberated person. And that is not possible. Gradually. Gradually, you go on hearing, hearing, srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah [SB 1.2.17]. Gradually, all the dirty things will be cleansed. So nasta-prayesu, almost clean. Not purely, not completely clean. Even it is almost clean... Nasta-prayesu abhadresu. How it is cleansed? Nityam bhagavata-sevaya [SB 1.2.18]. You serve your spiritual master, the representative of Bhagavan, bhagavata, and you hear Srimad-Bhagavatam -- these are the two kind of Bhagavatam -- and you do it. Nityam bhagavata-sevaya. Nasta-praye... Almost, almost cle... Then what is that? Bhagavaty uttama-sloke bhaktir bhavati naisthiki. The result will be that you'll be fixed up in the devotional service.<br />
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Uttama-sloka. Bhagavan's another name is Uttama-sloka. Uttama-sloka means selected prayers. Just like Brahmaji is offering prayers to the Supreme Personality of Godhead:<br />
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cintamani-prakara-sadmasu kalpa-vrksa-<br />
laksavrtesu surabhir abhipalayantam<br />
laksmi-sahasra-sata-sambhrama-sevyamanam<br />
govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami<br />
[Bs. 5.29]<br />
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There are so many prayers in the sastras. So therefore His name is Uttama-sloka. These prayers are composed by not ordinary rascal poet. They are composed by very, very stalwart, great personalities like Lord Brahma, Lord Siva and others, Suta Gosvami, Sukadeva Gosvami, Vyasadeva. Therefore they are called uttama-sloka, selected poetry. Therefore Bhagavan's another name is Uttama-sloka. He is offered prayers by the great personalities with selected composition of poetry and prayers. So bhagavaty uttama-sloke.<br />
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If actually we follow these regulative principles, nityam bhagavata-sevaya [SB 1.2.18], then gradually our heart will be cleansed. Ceto-darpana-marjanam [Cc. Antya 20.12]. Caitanya Mahaprabhu said. The process is to cleanse the dirty heart. Actually, we are clean. Asango 'yam purusah. We have no business to be contaminated with the material qualities. We do not contaminate. Just like we know... In Bengali we say, tele jale mesera(?). You put oil in the water, it will never mix. Similarly, we are spirit souls, aham brahmasmi. We have nothing to do with this material world. But somehow or other, I am in contact. So simply I have to be contactless. That Caitanya Mahaprabhu says, ceto-darpana-marjanam [Cc. Antya 20.12]. As soon as your heart is cleansed with all dirty things, then bhava-maha-davagni-nirvapanam, immediately you become out of this contamination, bhava-maha-davagni.<br />
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This contamination means we are in the blazing fire of this material world. Blazing fire. It is, has been... Blazing fire... Bhava-maha-davagni. Maha-davagni. Davagni means the fire in the forest. In the forest nobody goes to set fire, but it takes place. Just like we, in India we thought that "By driving away the Britishers, we shall be happy." No. The davagni is so that... That is not the medicine. Medicine is bhavausadhi. Medicine is Krsna consciousness. Not that simply changing from this ism to that ism, this political party to this... That is not. Because everyone is imperfect. How they can give you perfect happiness? It is not possible. They are themselves andha. Andha means blind. So if you follow the blind man, how you'll cross? That is not possible. Andha yathandhair upaniyamanah. Why they are andha? Na te viduh svartha-gatim hi visnum [SB 7.5.31]. They do not know the ultimate goal of life is to surrender to Krsna. That they do not know. They are manufacturing their own ways of advancing. That will never be successful. They do not know. Na te viduh svartha-gatim hi visnum durasaya ye bahir-artha-maninah [SB 7.5.31]. They are thinking, "By adjustment of this material world, we shall be happy." That is not possible. The maya, the material energy, will not allow you to become perfect unless and until you surrender to Krsna. That is her business. Therefore it is said in the Bhagavad-gita,<br />
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daivi hy esa gunamayi<br />
mama maya duratyaya<br />
mam eva ye prapadyante<br />
mayam etam taranti te<br />
[Bg. 7.14]<br />
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This is the way.<br />
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So in this verse it is confirmed... The same thing. In the Vedic literature the same thing is spoken in a different way, in different circumstances. But the ultimate goal is how to know Krsna. Vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyah [Bg. 15.15]. So if we follow this principle, hear Bhagavatam... Bhagavatam means the words or the activities of Bhagavan. But the impersonalists, they think the ultimate goal, ultimate truth, Absolute Truth, is not a person. So there is no activity. If one is person, he has got activities. But if one is not person, void, just like a sky... In the sky, there is no activity. The only activity is the sky is covered with cloud, and you cannot see the sun. That is the only activity.<br />
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So that kind of activity is not required. Regular, varieties of activities. Therefore we have to hear about Krsna. You'll hear about Krsna in so many varieties of activities. Bhagavad-gita, you hear. It's so many activities of Krsna. So we have to hear about these. And unless there are activities, what you will hear? Simply "Brahman, Brahman, Brahman... nirakara." How long you will hear? And how long you will enjoy? That is... There is no enjoyment. Therefore they, these Brahmavadis, these Nirakaravadi, although by austerities and penances they may rise up to the Brahman effulgence, still, they will fall down. Because we are living entities, we want varieties of enjoyment. We are not satisfied in void, in zero. That is not possible. Therefore srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah [SB 1.2.17]. One has to hear about Krsna, varieties of activities. Varieties of activities. Not nirakara, without any activities. No. That activity is different from material activity. Janma karma me divyam. Therefore it is called divyam. They are not ordinary activities. They are all transcendental, spiritual activities. The Mayavadi philosophers, they cannot understand.<br />
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So we have got enough matter for hearing about Krsna. Srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah punya-sravana... If we simply sit down and hear, we become pious. And as soon as we become pious, then we can understand what is Krsna, what is God. If we are involved or implicated in sinful activities, there is no chance. Therefore anartha-nivrttih syat. By sadhu-sanga, by association with the sadhus, bhaktas, and by bhajana-kriya, we'll be seen, a person will be seen that he's no more involved in unwanted things. He's simply interested in executing devotional service. Nityam bhagavata-sevaya, bhagavaty uttama-sloke bhaktir bhavati naisthiki [SB 1.2.18]. When we are almost free from all this contamination, then we become fixed up in the devotional service. That is...<br />
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Bhagavan said in the Bhaga... Bahavo jnana-tapasa putah. Putah. Puta means purified. So this bhakti process means to become purified, purified. That is... The Narada-pancaratra-sutra also says that,<br />
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sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam<br />
tat-paratvena nirmalam<br />
hrsikena hrsikesa-<br />
sevanam bhaktir ucyate<br />
[Cc. Madhya 19.170]<br />
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Bhakti can be performed when you are purified. Sarvopadhi-vinirmuk... Upadhi. These are the upadhis: "I am American," "I am Indian," "I am Hindu," "I am Muslim," "I am black," "I am white." These are upadhis. This is the description of the skin, not for me. Aham brahmasmi. I do not belong to the skin. I do not... Because I do not belong to the skin, then so many skin descriptions... Caitanya Mahaprabhu says that "I am not a brahmana. I am not a sudra. I am not a sannyasi. I am not a brahmacari. I am not a ksatriya." In this way, "not, not, not..." Then what You are? "I am gopi-bhartuh pada-kamalayor dasa-dasanudasah." When you understand that "I am eternal servant of Krsna," that is purification. That is purification. You accept it blindly, or by the process of reading sastra and Vedas, you have to come to the conclusion: vasudevah sarvam iti sa mahatma sudurlabhah [Bg. 7.19]. Then you become mahatma and your life is perfect.<br />
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Thank you very much. (end)<br />
Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.2.18 -- Calcutta, September 26, 1974 "Krishna Is Omnipotent" BY SRILA PRABHUPADAtag:iskcondesiretree.com,2011-03-23:2103886:Topic:4847392011-03-23T10:50:57.856Zpadmavati matajihttps://iskcondesiretree.com/profile/padmavatidasi
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Prabhupada:<br />
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srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah<br />
punya-sravana-kirtanah<br />
hrdy antah stho hy abhadrani<br />
vidhunoti suhrt-satam<br />
[SB 1.2.17]<br />
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Krsna, this sound, transcendental sound. Krsna means the highest pleasure. Highest pleasure. Everyone, every living being, is seeking after pleasure, but he does not know how to seek pleasure. Therefore in this material conception of life we are being…
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Prabhupada:<br />
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srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah<br />
punya-sravana-kirtanah<br />
hrdy antah stho hy abhadrani<br />
vidhunoti suhrt-satam<br />
[SB 1.2.17]<br />
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Krsna, this sound, transcendental sound. Krsna means the highest pleasure. Highest pleasure. Everyone, every living being, is seeking after pleasure, but he does not know how to seek pleasure. Therefore in this material conception of life we are being frustrated in every step for satisfying our pleasure. Because we have no information from which platform we can have pleasure. That we are discussing for the last few weeks, that we are not this body. We are consciousness. Not exactly consciousness. Consciousness is the symptom of my real identity. I am pure soul. I am merged within this material body... And the modern material science, they have no stress of it. Therefore they are sometimes misled about this understanding of the spirit soul. But the spirit soul is a fact. And everyone can understand by the presence of consciousness. Any child can understand. The consciousness is the symptom of the spirit soul. So the whole process now we are trying from the Bhagavad-gita is to bring one to get him on the platform of consciousness. And if we act from the platform of consciousness, then we may not be pushed again into the platform of this bodily conception. And if we can continue that platform, if we continue to act on that platform of consciousness, then, at the end of this body, not even at the end of this body, even in the presence of this body, we shall be free. We shall be free from material contamination. Our spiritual life will be revived and the result will be that in our next life, next life, after leaving this body, we shall have our full spiritual life eternally.<br />
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Spirit is described... We have already discussed on this point that the spirit is eternal. Na hanyate hanyamane sarire: [Bg. 2.20] "Even after the destruction of this body, the consciousness is not destroyed." That continues. Rather, consciousness transferred to another type of body makes me again alive to the material conception of life. And that is also described in the Bhagavad-gita. Yam yam vapi smaran bhavam tyajaty ante kalevaram [Bg. 8.6]. At the time of death, if our consciousness is pure, then it is sure that next life is not material. Next life's pure spiritual life. But if our consciousness is not pure at the point of the verge of death, just leaving this body, then we have to take again this material body. That is the process going on by nature's law. We have got our finer body. This is gross body. The body which you are seeing, which I am seeing, this is gross body. Just like shirt and coat. Within your coat, there is shirt, and within your shirt, there is a body. Similarly, the pure soul is covered by shirt and coat. The shirt is mind, intelligence and false ego. Mind, intelligence and false ego. False ego means that the wrong conception that "I am matter. I am something, product of this material world." This wrong conception makes me localized. Just like because I have taken my birth in America, therefore I think myself American. Because I have taken my birth in India, therefore I think myself as Indian. But as pure soul, I am neither Indian nor American. I am pure soul. Because this is designation. This American, or Indian, or German, or Englishman, or cats and dogs and this and that, black and white, all these are designations. Spiritual consciousness means to become free from all these designations.<br />
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So that freedom is achieved when we are in constantly touch with the supreme spirit, Krsna. That supreme spirit is Krsna. So this assembly which we are trying to conduct is just to keep in touch constantly with Krsna. Krsna, Krsna can be in constantly companion with us. Because He's omnipotent, God is omnipotent, therefore He can be exactly in touch with us by His words. His words and He are not different. That is omnipotency. Omnipotency means in everything relating to Krsna has the same potency. Just like here in this material world the..., if you want water, you are thirsty, if you want water, then this water, simply calling, simply saying repeatedly, "water, water, water, water, water," will not satisfy your thirst. Because this word has not the same potency as water itself. You require the water as it is. Then your thirst will be satisfied. But in the transcendental, in the absolute world, there is no such difference. Krsna and Krsna's name and Krsna's words and Krsna's qualities, Krsna's pastimes -- everything is Krsna. Somebody, some people argues that "Arjuna was talking with Krsna. So Krsna was present before him, whereas my case, Krsna is not present. So how I can get direction?" That is not the fact. Krsna is present by His words, this Bhagavad-gita. Krsna... Therefore the system is... Of course, here we don't find such facilities, but India, when we speak on the Bhagavad-gita, or on the Srimad-Bhagavatam, we worship regularly with flower, with other paraphernalia required for worshiping. You see? In the Sikh religion they also, they have no deity, form of the deity, but they worship the book, grantha-seva. Perhaps some of you who are acquainted with the Sikh community, they, they worship this grantha. Similarly, the Muhammadans also, they worship the Koran. And similarly, in your Christian also, you worship Bible.<br />
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So it is a fact that Lord Jesus Christ is present by his words, Bible. Similarly, Krsna is present by His words. These personalities, either God or son of God, who come from the transcendental world, they keep their transcendental identity without being contaminated by this material world. That is their omnipotency. We are practiced to say that God is omnipotent. Now, this is His omnipotency. Omnipotency means that He is not different from His name, from His quality, from His pastimes, from His instruction, everything. Therefore the discussion on Bhagavad-gita is as good as you are discussing certainly to Krsna. And not only that; Krsna is seated in your heart, in my heart also. Isvarah sarva-bhutanam [Bg. 18.61]. God, God is situated in everyone's heart. God is not away from us. He's friendly. He's so friendly that in my repeated change of birth, He's with us. He's trying to see when we shall turn to Him. Rather, He's canvassing. He's canvassing. He's so kind that we may forget Him, but He has not forgotten us. He is with us. Just like the father never can forget the son, however the son may forget the father. That is, that is natural. Similarly, God is the original father of everything, everybody, all living entities. We may have different bodies. That is our shirt-coat. It has nothing to do with our real identity. Our real identity is pure soul. That pure soul is the part and parcel of the Supreme Lord. Mamaivamso jiva-bhutah [Bg. 15.7]. You'll find in Bhagavad-gita. And that part and parcel of the Supreme Lord is encaged in this material body. And you'll find in Bhagavad-gita that the Lord is said,<br />
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sarva-yonisu kaunteya<br />
murtayah sambhavanti yah<br />
tasam brahma mahad yonir<br />
aham bija-pradah pita<br />
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"My dear Arjuna, whatever forms of life you are seeing..." There are eighty-four lakhs species of life. That means eight millions and four hundred thousands of different varieties of life. Not one, two, three or one thousand, two thousand. No. We have not seen. Even the biologists, or the anthropologists, they cannot calculate. But from authoritative, revealed scripture we get this information that there are eight, eight, 8,400,000's of species of life of which human beings, they are divided into 400,000's species of life. And eighty, eighty million, eight million, there are other species of life. But Krsna, the Supreme Lord, claims that all of them, never mind, either he is bird or beast or man or a snake or whatever he may..., god, or semi-god, demigod, anything, whatever... "There are different forms, but apart from the forms, real identity is that all of them, they are My sons. I am actually bija-pradah pita, seed-giving father." Just like the father gives the seed, and the mother receives the seed, and the body is formed according to the mother's body. And when the body is completely formed, it comes out, either from cats, either from dog, either from man, or anything. That is the process of generation. The father gives the seed, and it takes, emulsified, two kinds of secretion within the womb of the mother, and in the first night the body is formed like a pea. Then gradually it develops. There are certain holes, the nine holes. They first of all come out, nine holes. We have got nine holes, two eyes, one mouth, two ears, and penis, and so many things. So when they are fully developed, they come out. And according to their last karma, or action, they get this body and enjoy, or suffer. That is the process of birth and death which is going on. And after finishing this life, again dies, again enters into the moth..., womb of the mother, again gets another type of body, again comes out. This is going on. This is going on.<br />
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So we should be very much intelligent that "How long we shall continue this repetition of birth and death and change of body?" Any intelligent man... That is the prerogative of the human form of life. That is the prerogative. He can stop this process, repetition of birth and death. He can get his real, actual spiritual form again and be blissful, full knowledge and eternal life. That is the whole process. So we should not miss this. And the whole thing begins just what we have begun now, now, this chanting and hearing. I wanted to point out that this chanting and hearing is as good as actual association of Krsna. That is stated in the Bhagavata, that srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah punya-sravana-kirtanah [SB 1.2.17]. This, this process is called kirtana. Even one does not understand the language, still, by hearing only, he acquires some piety. His, his assets become pious life, even he does not understand. It is such powerful. Srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah... krsna-katha means topics in, in the matter of Krsna. The topics in the matter of Krsna, there are two, two kinds of topics. One topic is this, Bhagavad-gita. It is spoken by Krsna. It is spoken by Krsna. And another krsna-katha, I mean to..., topics about Krsna, is this Srimad-Bhagavatam. That is spoken about Krsna. So there are two types of krsna-katha, and both of them are equally potent. Because it is connected with Krsna.<br />
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Now, in the Bhagavad-gita... We find that the Bhagavad-gita is spoken in the Battlefield of Kuruksetra. Now, what we have to do with the battlefield? We have nothing to do with battlefield. We are here to have some knowledge in the spiritual atmosphere, and why should we bother about the battlefield? No. Because in the battlefield there... [break] The whole battlefield has become Krsna-ized. Krsna-ized. Just like if there electric charges, electric current, is in some metal, the whole thing becomes surcharged with electricity, similarly, when Krsna is interested in some matter, then the whole thing becomes Krsna-ized. Otherwise, there was no need of discussing the Battlefield of Kuruksetra. So that is the omnipotency. Now this omnipotency is described in Srimad-Bhagavatam,<br />
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srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah<br />
punya-sravana-kirtanah<br />
hrdy antah stho hy abhadrani<br />
vidhunoti suhrt-satam<br />
[SB 1.2.17]<br />
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Now, simply by hearing the krsna-katha... That means, krsna-katha means... This... krsna-katha, there are many. All the Vedic literatures, they are full of krsna-katha. And all the Vedas means that is also krsna-katha. Any scripture in Veda, that may appear apparently different, but they are meant for krsna-katha. Krsna-katha. Because you'll find in the Bhagavad-gita that vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyah [Bg. 15.15]. The whole topics, they are meant for krsna-katha. (aside:) You'll excuse me. I am called by nature. I shall... [break] So krsna-katha... srnvatam krsna-katha. If you kindly simply hear about this krsna-katha, topics on Krsna, then what will be the result? Because it is pure, transcendental vibration, the result will be srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah punya-sravana-kirtanah, hrdy antah stho hy abhadrani. We have accumulated many inauspicious things within our heart due to our material contamination for many, many births. Many, many births. Not only this birth, but many, many last births. So when we surcharge our heart with the krsna-katha, then the result will be... srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah punya-sravana-kirtanah, hrdy antah sthah.<br />
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Hrdy antah sthah. Hrdy antah sthah means the contaminations which we have accumulated within our heart, that will be washed off. That will be washed off so that your heart will be cleansed of all rubbish things. And, as soon as all rubbish things are cleared off, then we are situated in pure consciousness. Because it is very difficult to understand, to eradicate oneself from all the designation. Suppose I am Indian. Is it very easy...? Is it not very easy to take it for granted immediately that I am not Indian, I am pure soul? Similarly, anyone, to not identify with this bodily designation, it is not very easy task. But still, if we go on hearing the krsna-katha, as we have begun here, it will be very easy. It will be very easy. You, you make an experiment. You make an experiment how easily you shall be able to get yourself free from all these designations. And as soon as we are free from the designations... What are the freedom? What are the signs of freedom? The signs of freedom...<br />
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srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah<br />
punya-sravana-kirtanah<br />
hrdy antah stho hy abhadrani<br />
vidhunoti suhrt-satam<br />
[SB 1.2.17]<br />
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Nasta-prayesv abhadresu. Nasta-prayesv abhadresu nityam bhagavata-sevaya [SB 1.2.18], bhaktir bhavati, bhaktir bhavati naisthiki, bhavati naisthiki. Now, as soon as, not cent percent clearance... It is not possible to clear our, I mean to say, rubbish things within our mind all of a sudden or very soon, all things. Even some percentage of the rubbish are cleared off, then at once it happens that our, the influence of the material nature becomes slackened.<br />
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tada rajas-tamo-bhavah<br />
kama-lobhadayas ca ye<br />
ceta etair anaviddham<br />
sthitam sattve prasidati<br />
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The material nature is working in three modes: goodness, passion and ignorance. Now, ignorance is hopeless life. Passion is too much materialistic. Passion means, one who is influenced by the modes of passion, he wants, he wants this false enjoyment. Although... Because he does not know, he wants to squeeze out the energy of the body to enjoy this matter. That is called modes of passion. And modes of ignorance, they have neither passion nor goodness in the modes of darkness of life. And mode of, modes of goodness is that in that position we can understand, at least theoretically, "What I am, what is this world, what is God, what is our interrelation?" This is the, I mean, stage of the modes of goodness. So by hearing krsna-katha, you will be freed from the two stages of ignorance and passion. You'll be situated in the modes of goodness. At least, you'll have the real knowledge, "What I am." Because in the ignorance... Just like animals... Animals, you see, the animal's life is full of suffering. But still, the animal does not know that he's suffering. Or take the case of a hog. Of course, here in your New York City, no hog is seen, but in village, in India, not only villages, sometimes in towns, we see the hog. Oh, how much miserable life they are, living in a filthy place, eating stools, and always unclean, and anyone sees hog and "Unhh! Nasty." But he, the hog, does not know that he's nasty condition. He's very jolly. (laughs) He's very jolly. The person who's in the upper status of life, he can see that "Oh, this is very nasty life!" The hog is very happy by eating stools and having sex intercourse with the she-hog constantly. Oh, it is getting fat, getting... The hog gets very... Too soon, they become very fatty. Because that spirit of enjoyment is there although the nasty enjoyment... [break]<br />
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Then he'll understand what is happiness. So you'll be promoted to that stage of life, goodness.<br />
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srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah<br />
punya-sravana-kirtanah<br />
hrdy antah stho hy abhadrani<br />
vidhunoti suhrt-satam<br />
[SB 1.2.17]<br />
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Nasta-prayesv abhadresu nityam bhagavata-sevaya [SB 1.2.18]. Nityam, daily, as a routine, routine work, if you hear this krsna-katha, then the result will be that nasta-prayesu abhadresu, when all this accumulation of dirty things in our heart accumulated for life after life, they'll be cleared off. And as matter of evidence you'll see that you are not no more in ignorance and in passion, but you are situated in the modes of goodness. Then what is, what is that position? Ceta etair anaviddham. Then your mind will not be attacked by the modes of ignorance and passion. You'll be steadily fixed up in the position of goodness. Then, when you are in goodness, then what is your attitude? Prasanna-manasah. You will find yourself joyful in every circumstances of life. You'll never feel yourself morose.<br />
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In the Bhagavad-gita you'll find... That is our brahma-bhuta situation. The Vedas teaches us that "You are not this matter. You are Brahman." Aham brahmasmi. Lord Sankaracarya, he preached this gospel to the world that we are not this matter. We are Brahman, spirit soul. So that, when that spiritual realization will be actually done, then your symptoms will change. What are those symptoms? Brahma-bhutah prasannatma na socati na kanksati: [Bg. 18.54] "When one is situated in his own spiritual consciousness, then he will have no hankering and no lamentation, lamentation for loss or hankering for gain." Two things are going on in this material world. The things which we do not possess, we hanker after it: "If I get these things, I'll be happy. If I get these things... Oh, I have no money. If I get one hundred thousand millions dollars, then I'll be happy." This is hankering. And when one hundred thousand million dollars you have got... Some way or other, it is lost, oh, you cry, "Oh, I am gone." So either for earning or we hanker, that is also a kind of distress, and when we suffer loss there is distress. But if you are situated in brahma-bhutah avasthana, you'll be neither, neither distressed, nor hankering. You'll be in equilibrium. Yasmin sthite gurunapi na vicalyate. Even if you are situated in the midst of fiery tribulation, you'll not be disturbed. That is the position.<br />
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evam prasanna-manaso<br />
bhagavad-bhakti-yogatah<br />
bhagavat-tattva-vijnanam<br />
mukta-sangasya jayate<br />
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Bhagavat-tattva-vijnana... Bhagavat-tattva-vijnana means the science of God. The science of God becomes perceivable by such person who is situated in the brahma-bhuta, I mean to say, status. So from that brahma-bhuta status, we have to work, and that work is recommended here,<br />
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buddhi-yukto jahatiha<br />
ubhe sukrta-duskrte<br />
tasmad yogaya yujyasva<br />
yogah karmasu kausalam<br />
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Now, so, so long we have got this material body, we have to work. We cannot stop working. That is not possible. But we have to adopt the tactics of yoga so that even by doing ordinary work in which by destiny or by circumstances I am put into, there is no harm. You'll find in Bhagavad-gita that even if you find in your own occupation there is... Suppose I am occupied in some business in which I have to speak lie. Without speaking lie, my business cannot go on. Now, suppose if that is the position. Now, speaking lie is not very good thing, and if you think that your business is not very, based on very moral principle, "So I should give up," then Bhagavad-gita you'll find that "Don't give up." Even if you are put into such circumstances that your livelihood cannot go on without that unfair means, still, you should not give it up, but you should try to make it purified. You should try to make it purified. How it is purified? Now, you should not take the fruitive result of your work. That is meant for God.<br />
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So here it is stated that, that buddhi-yukto jahatiha ubhe sukrta-duskrte. Sukrta means pious activities, and duskrta means impious activities. In the material platform we are two things, pious or impious. Pious or impious. Either we are doing some pious activities or we are doing some impious activities or we are doing mixed, pious or impious. So Lord Krsna advises that if you act with intelligence or devotion of the Supreme... Intelligence means... What is that intelligence? That "I am the part and parcel of the supreme consciousness, pure soul. I am not this body." This is called intelligence. If you identify yourself, "I am American," "I am Indian," "I am this or that," then you are material placed.(?) If you identify yourself that "I am neither American, nor Indian, but I am pure consciousness, I am subordinate consciousness of the supreme consciousness, or, in other words, I am servant of God... God is supreme consciousness, and I am subordinate." That... So for our present understanding, subordinate means a servant. But don't carry out the idea of servant in relation to God. Here nobody wants to be servant. Everyone wants to be master. Because to become servant is very, not very, mean, a palatable thing. So but to become a servant of God is not exactly like this. Sometimes servant of God becomes the master of God. The real position of the living entity is a servant of God, but in Bhagavad-gita we see that the master, Krsna, has become the servant of Arjuna. Arjuna is sitting on the chariot, and Krsna has accepted his drivership. Is not the servant of the owner of the chariot? So in spiritual relation we should not carry out the conception of this material relationship. Although the relationship are there. The whole relationship, as we have got experience in this world, the same relationship are there in the spiritual world. But that relationship is not contaminated with matter. Therefore they are pure and transcendental. Therefore they are of a different nature. As we become advanced in spiritual conception of life, then we can understand what is the actual position in spiritual, transcendental life.<br />
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So here the Lord instructs that buddhi-yukta. Buddhi-yukta means with the full consciousness that you are not this body. If we act in that way... Now, if I am, I am not body, then I am consciousness. That is a fact. Now, if we act on the consciousness platform, then we can overcome the fruitive result of good work or bad work. It is transcendental stage. It is transcendental stage. It is especially mentioned, buddhi-yukto jahatiha sukrta-duskrte. That means you are acting on other's account, on the supreme account. You are not liable for loss or gain. When there is gain, don't be puffed up. You should think that this gain is for the Lord. And when there is loss, you, you should know that "This is not my responsibility. It is God's work. He'll see." Then you'll be happy. That practice you have to do, everything on account of the Supreme. That transcendental nature we have to develop. Tasmad yogaya yujyasva yogah karmasu kausalam. This is the trick of doing work in these present circumstances. As soon as we work on the platform of bodily consciousness, we become bound up by the reaction of my works. And as soon as I work on spiritual consciousness, I am not bound up either by sukrti or duskrti, either by pious activities or by, I mean to say, vicious activities. That is the technique.<br />
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Karma-jam buddhi-yukta hi phalam tyaktva manisinah. Manisinah. This word is very significant. Manisinah means thoughtful, thoughtful. Manisa. Manisa means thought. Manisinah, those who are got, those who are thoughtful, not trifling. Those who are thoughtful. Unless one is thoughtful, one cannot understand that he is not this body. Then how, how you can do work for yourself? What is your position? Now, I am consciousness. What kind of consciousness? Subordinate consciousness. I am the part of the supreme consciousness. Then what will be your activities? My activities will be under the guidance of the supreme consciousness. Just like in office, the managing director is the supreme consciousness. Just for example. Now, everyone is working under him, under his direction. So anyone who is working under his direction, they have no responsibility. They have got simply to discharge the duty, either pious or impious, never mind. In the military rank the order of the captain or the commander is there. The soldier has to execute it. Never mind whether it is pious or impious. It doesn't matter. He has to act simply. Then he becomes a, I mean to say, real soldier. If he acts in that way, he gets remuneration, he gets reward, he gets title, he gets honor. He doesn't care. The commander asks him, "Just go and kill the enemy." He goes and kills. He gets reward. But killing, do you mean to say one gets reward? No. For the duty discharged. For the duty discharged. Similarly, here the whole position is that Krsna is instructing Arjuna. Krsna is the supreme consciousness and Arjuna has to discharge only according to the order of the supreme consciousness. So my, manisinah. Manisinah means those who are thoughtful philosophers, those who can take up things by philosophical conclusion, that "I am consciousness. I am the part and parcel of the supreme consciousness. Therefore my duty is to act according to the supreme consciousness." Just like your hand is the part of your body. Now, it is moving according to my consciousness. The hand is not moving in its own way. As I want, that let the hand be moved, let my legs be moved, let my eye be opened and see, so I am dictating and these parts are working. Similarly we are all parts and parcel, parcel of the supreme consciousness. When we train ourself to move and act in according to that supreme consciousness, then we become transcendental to all these pious or impious activities. That is the technique.<br />
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So karma-jam buddhi-yukta hi phalam tyaktva manisinah. Manisinah means thoughtful, those who are thoughtful, those who have understood that "I am the part and parcel of the supreme consciousness and let me act in that way"... Then what will be the result? Just see the fine result: janma-bandha-vinirmuktah padam gacchanty anamayam: "Then he becomes free from the bondage of birth and death, no more birth and death." Janma-bandhana. This is a, this is a very strong shackle. You see? Janma. Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi. The modern scientists, modern philosophers, they do not think about these four things, janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi, birth, death, disease and old age. They set it, set them aside. "Oh, let them be happened. Let us enjoy this life, hogs and dogs." This is human life. Human life is meant to make a solution of this bondage: life, I mean, birth, death, disease and old age. If the human civilization has not made a solution of these four things, oh, that is not human civilization. Human civilization is meant for making a complete solution of these things.<br />
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So here, in the Bhagavad-gita, just see how the Lord says that karma-jam buddhi-yukta hi. Karma-jam. Karma-jam means whenever you act, there will be some reaction. If you act good things, there will be a good reaction. If you act bad things, there will be bad reaction. But reaction, either good or bad, that is, in higher sense, all suffering. I have already explained to you another, some other day, that suppose by good action I get good birth, good riches and good features of the body, good education, all these thing I get, but that does not mean that I am free from the material pangs. The material pangs are janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi: birth, death, old age and diseases. Because you are rich man, because you are beautiful man, because you are educated man, because you are born in a aristocratic family, that does not mean that you have avoided death, old age and disease. So we shall not be concerned with pious activities or impious activities. We shall be concerned with transcendental activities. That will save me from this bondage of birth, death, old age and disease. That should be our aim of life. We should not be hankering after good or bad things. Because everything here, in higher consciousness, everything material... Now, take for example... Suppose you are diseased, suffering from some disease. You are lying on the bed. And you are eating in that stage, you are passing your nature's call in that way, and taking bitter medicines, and always you have to keep by the nurses clean. Otherwise, there is some obnoxious smell. In such a condition you are lying, and some friends come to you and ask you, "My dear such and such, how are you today feeling?" "Yes, I am today feeling well." What is this "well"? He's lying on the bed. He's passing his nature's calls in that way. He's eating bitter medicine, and he, he cannot move. All these inconveniences, and he says that "I am well." Similarly, in our material conception of life, if we think, "I am happy," that is foolishness. That is foolishness. There is no happiness in material life. It is impossible to get happiness. Then we do not know meaning of happiness. Therefore this very word is used, manisinah. We want to happy, to become by some extraneous, artificial means. And how long it will stand? It will not stand. You'll again come back. Suppose by intoxication you feel happy. Oh, that is not your actual happiness. Suppose by chloroform I am unconscious; I don't feel the pains of operation. Oh, that does not mean that I am out of these pains and pleasures. This is artificial. So real, real pleasure, real life is here, as recommended in Bhagavad-gita by Sri Krsna. Just see. Karma-jam buddhi-yukta hi phalam tyaktva manisinah. Manisinah means the thoughtful. "They give up the reaction of, of work, being situated in the platform of consciousness. And the result will be that janma-bandha-vinirmuktah, this bondage of birth and death and disease and old age, he becomes free from that." Then the next life? Padam gacchanty anamayam. Anamayam. Anamayam means where there is no death, no, I mean to say, old age, no birth, no disease. That is possible. That is called Vaikuntha. Vaikuntha. The Sanskrit word is Vaikuntha. Vaikuntha means vigata-kuntha. Kuntha means anxiety, anxiety. Here, due to our material contamination, we are always full of kuntha, anxiety. Even a bird, when he's eating, he's seeing like this; this way, this way, this way, "Somebody's coming, or kill me. Oh." Full of anxiety. We are also anxiety, anxious. The politician is anxious. So long we are in contamination of this material body, we must be anxious. We must be anxious.<br />
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There is a nice instruction by Prahlada Maharaja, a great devotee, boy devotee. And he was, from his boyhood, childhood, from his mother's womb, he became a devotee by the grace of Narada Muni. That is the history. Now, he, he was five-years-old boy, and his father was too much materialistic. And he wanted that his son should be great politician, economist, and so on, so on, just like the materialists want. But the boy, he's a devotee. So father did not like the idea. So one day he called his boy, "My dear boy, come on." He came. A small boy. "Sit down on my lap. All right, my dear boy, will you kindly tell me what you have learned, the best thing in your school?" "Yes, my dear father, I shall tell you." So he said like this, tat sadhu manye 'sura-varya dehinam sada samudvigna-dhiyam asad-grahat, hitvatma, hitva atma-patam grham anda-kupam vanam gato yad-dharim asrayeta [SB 7.5.5]. "My dear father..." He's addressing his father, "O the best among the materialists." Now, he's not afraid. His father was very powerful, and there is a story. We shall narrate one day. Now, today is... Very shortly I am giving some instance... So he says, "My dear father, you are the greatest of the materialists, but to my opinion that is the best thing if people should give up this materialistic life and devote himself for searching out God, then he'll be free from the anxiety which is due to him due to his material connection." Just, how, see the nice, that hitva, tat sadhu manye 'sura-varya dehinam sada samudvigna-dhiyam. Persons who are always full of anxieties. Why? Now, due to their material connection. Asat. Asat means matter. Matter will not stay, however you may chemically try to preserve. Will... It will not stay. Therefore matter's another name is asat. And spirit's another name is sat. Sat means "which exists." Asat means "which does not exist." Antavanta ime deha nityasyoktah saririnah [Bg. 2.18]. We have already described that this body, this body is antavat, it has got end, but the consciousness, or the spirit soul, it is not... It is endless. So the endless, I mean to say, ever-existing soul, being contaminated by this body, he's full of anxiety. So Prahlada Maharaja thinks that in order to realize his self for self-realization, if he gives up all material engagement and takes to the path of self-realization, that is the best way of his life. And the father became angry. "What nonsense he's taking? A five-years-old boy, he's taking, talking of self-realization. I wanted to make him a great politician, economist. Now he's talking of this nonsense and..." Hitvatma-patam grham andha-kupam. "He's describing that this family life is just like a dark well." If a man is put, dark well... [break]<br />
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...be engaged. Be... Whatever you are, that doesn't matter. But act it on the platform of consciousness. And that platform, acting on the consciousness, is, Lord Caitanya has made very easy. Just like there are some note-makers of school books, "Easy Study." So Lord Caitanya has recommended that "You may be engaged in whatever occupation. That may be good or bad. We don't mind for that. But you must hear the krsna-katha. You must continue to hear this Bhagavad-gita." That is... For this, we are trying to organize this institution, that "You come. Whatever you do, that doesn't matter. Everything will be adjusted by and by." Because, as I have described in the beginning, that srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah, hrdy antah-stho hy abhadrani [SB 1.2.17]. Everything will be adjusted as our mind becomes clear, clear, clear, simply by hearing. Simply by hearing.<br />
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So this process, this association of hearing about the krsna-katha, what Krsna is speaking and what is spoken about Krsna, if we continue about the, about this process and chanting the Krsna name, you'll practically see how much your heart is becoming clearer and clearer and how much you are pro..., making progress towards spiritual realization and real, real identity of pure consciousness.<br />
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Thank you very much. Any question?<br />
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Mukunda: If a good man, who is passed through the states of being ignorant and passionate and he's really a good man, is walking down the street, let's say, in Delhi or Istanbul or any place, any city. And he sees a very young man beating up on a very old man just for no reason at all. He's just beating up, beating him to death. And the old man is calling out for help and there's a few people standing around. And as he approaches, he, he begins to get stirred by this scene. And being a good man he feels the whip on this other human being's back. Now, as a good man, should he not take sides on the two people quarreling and accept it and just walk on, even though he feels something welling up in him, or should he give way to what would be a passionate desire and try to interrupt and stop this injustice, so to speak?<br />
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Prabhupada: The whole idea is that action, either in ignorance or passion or goodness... We have discussed that point. That doesn't matter. But action should be done from the spiritual consciousness platform. That's all. Then you transcend the reaction. Just like, for example, Arjuna. Arjuna's fighting... This fighting is on the modes of passion, passion. Now, when the, that work of passion, if he does... Now, Arjuna was thinking not to fight, not to fight, because he thought that "Fighting with my brothers, with my relatives, is not good."<br />
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Mukunda: Yes.<br />
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Prabhupada: So, from material point of view, it is all right. From material point of view. But the thing is that material point of view, if you do act good work, you have to enjoy the reaction. That is the point. As I have already explained that by your good work, you get good birth, you get good wealth, you get good education, good features of body. But that is not the solution of your problem. Here the whole thing is that how to act. If we act from the material platform, even in the modes of goodness, that is also not solution of my life. But even, even in the spiritual, from the spiritual platform, if we act which apparently may seem to be acts of passion, that is not reactionary. That is not reactionary. Just like Arjuna. Arjuna... Now, the Lord says that you become free from the reaction of your activities. That is the proposition. Now, at the same time, He's inducing Arjuna to fight. Now, fighting is on the platform, on the modes of passion. Does it mean that simultaneously Krsna is inducing him to be entangled in the reaction of passion modes? No. That action, even apparently appears to be act, being acted on the platform of passion, it is transcendental because it is direction of the supreme consciousness. So whole thing is that we have to... Just like... Same example can be cited, that a soldier is killing his enemy, and the soldier's rewarded, "Oh, you have killed such a big enemy. You are rewarded." Do you mean to say by killing one is rewarded? But he is not acting on his platform. He's acting on higher consciousness platform, higher order. So if a commander's order can give him immunity from the reaction of being hanged, why not God's command? That is the thing. So we have, we haven't to discriminate whether I am in the modes of ignorance or passion or goodness. No. We have simply to see whether I'm acting under the direction of the supreme consciousness. That is the thing to be seen. Then we are free. Then our life becomes free. That thing, we have to learn. Yes?<br />
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Student: Is there...? Am I my brother's keeper? Am I, am I responsible for my brother's actions?<br />
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Prabhupada: Yes. Materially, you are responsible. Because materially you are responsible for all acts, good or bad. That I have already explained. So you may think that you have taken the responsibility of maintaining your brother, but at the same time, you are responsible for all the reactions.<br />
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Student: For all the?<br />
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Prabhupada: For all the reactions out of that act. It may be bad or good. That doesn't matter. Our problem is not to be infected with the reaction. If you think that bringing up your brother... It is, actually, it is good thing. You are doing good thing. That's all right. And you'll have the good result of it. But that, having that good result, does not mean that you are free from the reaction. Now, our problem is that we want to be free from the reaction. So long... Now... The same answer is there, that reaction of my good work, that I get good birth, I get good education, I get sufficient wealth or I get good features of body. These things are goodness of this material world. But that does not make solution of the disease in which... [break]...vyadhi, birth, death, old age and disease. The whole problem is that we have to get out of this material existence. So the, from the material point of view, or platform, any act, good or bad, that will have material reaction. And we are, we want to get out of this material reaction. That is our point of view. (end)<br />
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Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)<br />
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srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah<br />
punya-sravana-kirtanah<br />
hrdy antah-stho hy abhadrani<br />
vidhunoti suhrt satam<br />
[SB 1.2.17]<br />
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Translation: "Sri Krsna, the Personality of Godhead, who is the Paramatma, Supersoul, in everyone's heart and the benefactor of the truthful devotee, cleanses desire for material enjoyment from the heart of the devotee who relishes…
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Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)<br />
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srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah<br />
punya-sravana-kirtanah<br />
hrdy antah-stho hy abhadrani<br />
vidhunoti suhrt satam<br />
[SB 1.2.17]<br />
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Translation: "Sri Krsna, the Personality of Godhead, who is the Paramatma, Supersoul, in everyone's heart and the benefactor of the truthful devotee, cleanses desire for material enjoyment from the heart of the devotee who relishes His messages, which are in themselves virtuous when properly heard and chanted."<br />
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Prabhupada:<br />
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srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah<br />
punya-sravana-kirtanah<br />
hrdy antah-stho hy abhadrani<br />
vidhunoti suhrt satam<br />
[SB 1.2.17]<br />
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There is a English proverb that "God helps him who tries to help himself." That is a English proverb. So to become Krsna conscious is not very difficult thing. People have no taste. They do not understand the importance of this Krsna consciousness movement. But this is the only way by which one can become perfect and happy.<br />
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It is confirmed in the Bhagavad-gita that just to become happy and peaceful one has to learn three things.<br />
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bhoktaram yajna-tapasam<br />
sarva-loka-mahesvaram<br />
suhrdam sarva-bhutanam<br />
jnatva mam santim rcchati<br />
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If you want... Because the problem is that we want to be happy and peaceful. Everyone says, "I want peace. There is no peace in my mind." That is a general understanding. Nobody can say that "I am completely happy and peaceful." No, that is not possible. The material world is made in such a way that you cannot feel happy. That is not possible. First of all, we have come to this material world to enjoy sense gratification, but that is not our proper business. Our proper business is to satisfy the senses of Krsna, not our senses. So because we have deviated from our original position, therefore it is always a perplexity of our life. But due to illusion we cannot understand it.<br />
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Just like a hog is eating stool, living in a very filthy place, having sex without any discrimination, but you see, hogs are very fatty. They feel very happy. Unless one feels very happy, he cannot become fatty. This is a psychology. Yes. We have seen, sometimes, a confectioner, very quickly they become fatty. Because they always smell rasagulla. It is natural. You see. So the hogs, they feel very happy, and get fatty. You see. But actually what is the happiness? He's eating stool, living in a filthy place and no fixity of eating. But still, he's happy.<br />
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Therefore Prahlada Maharaja, when he was asked by his father, "My dear boy, will you kindly let me know what best thing you have learned from your teachers?" So Prahlada Maharaja replied,<br />
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tat sadhu manye 'sura-varya dehinam<br />
sada samudvigna-dhiyam asad-grahat<br />
hitvatma-patam grham andha-kupam<br />
vanam gato yad dharim asrayeta<br />
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"My dear father..." He did not say "father." He said, "My dear the best of the demons..." His father was a demon, and he was not afraid of his father, although his father was always insisting him, "You give up this Krsna consciousness, learn like me, become a very big king, politician." But he would say, "No. Sravanam kirtanam visnoh [SB 7.5.23]. This is best thing." So that was the fight between the father and the son. So sometimes, after all, he was father, sometimes patting the son. So he replied, "My dear the best of the demons, asura-varya..." Asura means demon, and varya means the best. Tat sadhu manye 'sura-varya dehinam. "I think for any living entity who has accepted this material body..."<br />
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All of us, we have accepted this material body. Tat sadhu manye 'sura-varya dehinam asad-grahat, sada samudvigna-dhiyam asad-grahat. Because the living entities accepted this material body, asad-grahat... Asat means "that will not exist." Every living entity is eternal. He must have his eternal body. But purposefully, to enjoy this material world, the living entity has accepted a material body. Not only once, but it is going on continually, one after another. As I am accumulating material desires in this life... Just like I have got this body according to my desires in the last life, similarly, whatever we are desiring in this life, that will be fulfilled in the next life. Krsna is very kind. As we desire, ye yatha mam prapadyante tams tathaiva bhajamy aham [Bg. 4.11]. Krsna is so kind that if you want a tiger's body, Krsna will give you. If you want a demigod's body, Krsna will give you. If you want a body like Krsna, Krsna will give you. Mad-yajino 'pi yanti mam. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita. Yanti deva-vrata devan pitrn yanti pitr-vratah [Bg. 9.25]. Whatever you want, especially in this human form of life, whatever you desire, Krsna will give you chance. It may be very unpalatable, but this is a fact. We have heard from authorities.<br />
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That is why in Vrndavana there are so many hogs and monkeys and dogs. This is very mysterious thing. The siddhanta, the conclusion is, we get it, information from Bhagavatam... Just like that, the two sons of Kuvera. What is the? Manibandha...?<br />
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Devotees: Manigriva.<br />
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Prabhupada: Manigriva...?<br />
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Devotees: Nalakuvara.<br />
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Prabhupada: Nalakuvara. They wanted extensively sense enjoyment. They were enjoying. At that time, Narada was passing. But they were so much intoxicated that they could not cover their body. So Narada cursed them that "You become a tree." But when they were very much submissive, fell down on the feet of Narada, "How we shall get...?" he asked them to get the tree life in Vrndavana. And because they were put in Vrndavana, after some time, they were delivered.<br />
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So similarly, those who are executing devotional service, but at the same time cheating... Cheating means outwardly very devotional, inwardly doing all sinful activities. Such living entity is given the chance to become a hog and dog in Vrndavana so that the reaction of the sinful activities, they get this body; at the same time, due to their touch with the dust of Vrndavana, they become eliminated of all sinful activities and liberated. So these hogs and dogs, they're also very important. They are not ordinary thing. But this is the explanation. The tortoise, the... They have, they have got... Therefore a devotee, when he's punished in that way for the short time, they'll be liberated. Undoubtedly.<br />
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There is a statement in the Srimad-Bhagavatam:<br />
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tyaktva sva-dharmam caranambujam harer<br />
bhajann apakvo 'tha patet tato yadi...<br />
[SB 1.5.17]<br />
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Even one falls down, still, there is no loss. Because he'll get the chance. Krsna will arrange in such a way. They'll get the chance. So actually, there is no loss. But one must be purified completely. So to get this hog's and dog's life means they are being purified. They are being purified. But without being completely purified, nobody can enter into the kingdom of God. That is not possible. Yesam anta-gatam papam. So there is another version in Caitanya-caritamrta:<br />
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anivijna tare visaye khana diba<br />
sa caranamrtam diye visa bhula iva(?)<br />
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If one, by mistake, while executing devotional service, at the same time, keeping his propensity for sense gratification, material enjoyment, then he is rectified in that way.<br />
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So we should be very much careful. Careful... It is said, ksurasya dhara nisita duratyaya. The spiritual path, Krsna consciousness path, is just like sharpened razor. You take your sharpened razor and shave your cheek. If you are expert, it will be very clean-shaved. But if you are not expert, there is little inattention, immediately cut and blood. Ksurasya dhara. This is an example. Durgam pathas tat kavayo vadanti. But the safest way... Here it is stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam, srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah [SB 1.2.17]. If we attentively hear about Krsna, punya-sravana-kirtanah, if we hear about Krsna, it doesn't matter what I am, but simply by hearing Krsna, about Krsna, I shall acquire some resultant action of pious activities. Just like there is the Bhagavata-saptaha. You, within a week, nobody can understand what is Bhagavata. And the speaker also does not know what he's speaking. But because somehow or other, they're hearing about Krsna, there is some pious resultant action. That's a fact.<br />
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So srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah punya-sravana-kirtanah [SB 1.2.17]. If we engage ourselves... Caitanya Mahaprabhu accepted this process, simply hearing... That is the accepted process, sravanam, sravanam kirtanam. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu also accepted this process. Sthane sthitah sruti-gatam tanu-van-manobhih. He refused so many other processes of self-realization, beginning from varnasrama-dharma, jnana-misra-bhakti, karma-misra-bhakti, karma-tyaga. He, not rejected; he said, "It is external. If you know something more, speak," when He was talking with Ramananda Raya. So when Ramananda Raya quoted a passage from Srimad-Bhagavatam which was spoken by Lord Brahma:<br />
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jnane prayasam udapasya namanta eva<br />
jivanti san-mukharitam bhavadiya-vartam<br />
sthane sthitah sruti-gatam tanu-van-manobhir<br />
ye prayaso 'jita jito 'py asi tais tri-lokyam<br />
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So Caitanya Mahaprabhu accepted that people should be given chance, some way or other, to hear about Krsna. That's all. These meetings are arranged, these sankirtana parties are arranged... We are sending our men throughout the whole world simply to give them some chance to hear about Krsna. This is the process. And it is actually happening very effective. Simply.<br />
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When I was coming here, I was in Manila. What is called?<br />
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Devotees: Manila.<br />
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Prabhupada: Manila. Yes. Manila, in Philippines. So this Manila, Philippines, they eat dogs. But still they gave very patient hearing to krsna-katha. My last meeting was in a big hotel. Our Sudama Vipra Gosvami Maharaja arranged it, and it was very successful meeting. All full of young men. And they came to hear about Krsna. And they responded very nicely. They purchased books, they danced, they chanted. So this Krsna consciousness movement is progressing only in this basis: srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah [SB 1.2.17]. Just give them chance to hear about Krsna. We are not bribing them. I have not bribed all these American and European boys to become Krsna conscious. I have no money. I, when I went to America, I had only seven dollars. One hour's expenditure in New York. You see. So there is no question of bribing them. But they heard about Krsna. I was reading Bhagavad-gita on the street, on the store, in the park, and chanting. They heard, and they came to me. They became attracted. Why? Because it is said here, hrdy antah-sthah. Within the heart, hy abhadrani...<br />
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People are suffering because they have got so many dirty things within the heart. The most important dirty thing are the modes of material nature. Sattva-guna, tamo-guna... Sattva-guna is also not dirty, but it is mixed with dirty things. And rajo-guna, tamo-guna is purely dirty. Rajo-guna, tamo-guna is purely dirty. Here, our intelligence is also dirty, because it is mixed up with these modes of material nature. In the material life, the int..., we are using our intelligence... Everyone is using, or..., his intelligence, how to become happy. The whole world is going on, working so hard. There is intelligence, certainly. But that is dirty intelligence. That is dirty intelligence. Dirty intelli...<br />
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What kind of dirty intelligence? That is described in the Bhagavad-gita: duskrtinah. Krti. Krti means very expert, krti. Krti. One who is expert, he's called krti. But here the word has been added: dus. Duskrti. Duskrtin. Just like one who has discovered the atomic bomb. It has required very nice brain. Unless the scientist is very intelligent, krti, how he could discover such dangerous weapon? So there is intelligence, undoubtedly. But the intelligence has been wrongly used. Duskrtinah. They have discovered something to kill man. But they could discover something which will save man. But that is not possible. That is Krsna consciousness movement -- which will save man. You can discover something to kill man, but you cannot discover something which will save man. That is Krsna consciousness. And it is very easy. Simply by giving some time to hear about Krsna. As soon as one sincerely hears about Krsna...<br />
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Krsna is situated in everyone's heart. Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese arjuna tisthati [Bg. 18.61]. Krsna and I, both are living together within the heart as friends. Krsna is so sincere friend that He's trying always to take me back again, back to home, back to Godhead. That is His business. But I am denying, "No, Sir, I shall remain as hog. I shall be happy by eating stool." Krsna says, "No, give up this business." Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. "I'll give you protection." "No, Sir, I'll eat meat, I shall eat the stool. I have got very good facility for sex life without any discrimination." There are so many so-called... I don't wish to discuss, but sex life is so strong that they cannot give up even in so-called devotional life. So this is dirty things. Actually it is very dirty. But one can give it up if one is very strongly under the shelter of Krsna.<br />
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yad-avadhi mama cetah krsna-padaravinde<br />
nava-nava-rasa-dhamany udyatam rantum asit<br />
tad-avadhi bata nari-sangame smaryamane<br />
bhavati mukha-vikarah susthu nisthivanam ca<br />
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Yamunacarya says. If one... Krsna is Madana-mohana. If one is attracted, actually, by Krsna, madana cannot kill him. Krsna will save. So the... Actually, the dirty thing is our..., this sex desire. Sex desire increases our attachment for this world.<br />
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pumsah striya mithuni-bhavam etam<br />
tayor mitho hrdaya-granthim ahuh<br />
ato grha-ksetra-sutapta-vittair<br />
janasya moho 'yam aham mameti<br />
[SB 5.5.8]<br />
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Everything is there, Srimad-Bhagavatam. The ultimate knowledge to understand everything. Unfortunately, they speak on Srimad-Bhagavatam, but not scrutinizingly, pointing out what are the defects in our life. They want to enjoy another type of sense gratification. Anyway, we do not wish to discuss. But actually, if we want to get rid of all dirty things from our heart, we must hear scrutinizingly about Krsna. This is the prescription given here. Srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah punya-sravana-kirtanah [SB 1.2.17]. If you do not understand, it doesn't matter. You simply give vibration, hear the vibration. Just like we are doing. What, in European countries and American countries, they'll understand? But we are sending in every important street. In New York we are sending in the Fifth Avenue, the most important street in the world. Fifth Avenue, New York, we are chanting. We have seen pictures in our Back to Godhead. They are chanting. In London, the most important street, Oxford Street, we send our men. In Melbourne, they're, they're now arresting. I do not know what is the position now. But they are prepared. These boys and girls, so nice that they're arrested sometimes. Just like Kazi was torturing Caitanya Mahaprabhu's party. Of course, now, civilized world, there is no such torturing, but our men are, very often they are arrested and put into jail also. But still, they go. They go every day. Now in London, the police has become disgusted. They don't, do not arrest anymore. Yes. So I say that if you are arrested, why you should be sorry? You go in the jail and chant Hare Krsna. That's all. So that others will get the opportunity to hear about Krsna.<br />
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So this is our propaganda. Krsna consciousness movement means we are giving chance to people to hear about Krsna. Srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah punya-sravana-kirtanah [SB 1.2.17]. The same thing can be done in India also. But we have got better field of activities outside India, I tell you, frankly. I am very much encouraged. Because the, we get very good response quickly. And they become immediately attached to Krsna, as you see the samples here. They have given up, on account of their attachment to Krsna, they have given up all their nonsense, or abhadrani. Abhadrani. Abhadrani. This, the principle abhadrani means illicit sex, intoxication, meat-eating, and gambling. These are the four pillars of abhadrani. So by Krsna consciousness, Krsna helps. Srnvatam... When Krsna sees that "This man, this living entity's now sincere to hear about Me," He helps. Hrdi... Because He's there. You haven't got to find out somewhere else. You haven't got to go to Himalaya to find Him. He's here. Hrdy antah-stho hi. So He's also within. And my all dirty things are also within. So as soon as He sees... I am also within. As soon as He sees that "This living entity's now little serious about hearing about Me," He helps. Hrdy antah-stho hy abhadrani vidhunoti. He helps you. I cannot get out of these dirty things by my own endeavor. That is not possible. But Krsna helps. As soon as we are little serious to hear about Krsna, He helps.<br />
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Buddhi-yogam dadami tam yena mam upayanti te. Krsna says. Here, it is indirectly said that Krsna helps. And in the Bhagavad-gita Krsna directly says, "Yes. I give him such intelligence so that he may come back to home, back to Godhead." Yena mam upayanti te. To whom? Tesam satata-yuktanam bhajatam priti-purvakam [Bg. 10.10]. One who is twenty-four hours engaged in the loving service of the Lord, and satata-yukta... Satata means twenty-four hours. Not officially. Of course, by official, one may gradually come to the position of satata-yuktanam. Bhajatam priti-purvakam. With faith and love, if one is engaged in the service of the Lord, then Krsna says, buddhi-yogam dadami tam. There are two things, buddhi and buddhi-yogam. Buddhi, ordinary buddhi, intelligence, that is dirty. But when it is yogam... Yogam means connected with Krsna. It is called buddhi-yogam.<br />
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So we require buddhi-yogam. Not buddhi. If we simply use our buddhi, intelligence, then we continue to become duskrtinah. Buddhi's there, but it is utilized in a misdirected way. That is called duskrtinah. Therefore we must engage our buddhi... Because buddhi is the immediate step before we realize self. First our conception is indriyani, these senses. Indriyani parany ahur indriyebhyah param manah [Bg. 3.42]. We give very much importance to the senses. The bodily concept of life means to give importance to sense enjoyment. That's all. This is bodily concept of life. So indriyani parany ahuh. They are very important. Those who are bodily, in bodily concept of life, they are addicted to sense gratification. Indriyani parany ahur indriyebhyah param manah [Bg. 3.42]. And those who are little advanced more, they are addicted to the mental speculation. The so-called jnanis, mental speculation. Manasas tu para buddhih. Then again you come to the platform of intelligence. Intelligence, and when the intelligence is purified, hrdy antah-stho hy abhadrani, purified, simply by hearing about Krsna, then immediately you are raised to the platform of spiritual life. This is the process.<br />
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So,<br />
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srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah<br />
punya-sravana-kirtanah<br />
hrdy antah-stho hy abhadrani<br />
vidhunoti suhrt satam<br />
[SB 1.2.17]<br />
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He is very intimate friend of the sadhus, of the devotees. He is everyone's friend. Suhrdam sarva-bhutanam. He's everyone's friend. God, Krsna, He's everyone's friend, but He's a special friend for the devotees. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita. He says,<br />
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samo 'ham sarva-bhutesu<br />
na me dvesyo 'sti na priyah<br />
ye bhajanti tu mam bhaktya<br />
mayi te tesu capy aham<br />
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Priyah tesu te mayi: because He's God, He's kind to everyone; without His kindness, we cannot live for a moment. That is a fact. But if one becomes a devotee, He gives special protection. Kaunteya pratijanihi na me bhaktah pranasyati. So therefore this human form of life is a special prerogative for the living entity, and if we take advantage of it and simply try to hear about Krsna, then our life is successful.<br />
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Thank you very much. (end)<br />
Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.2.17 -- Vrndavana, October 28, 1972 "The Way To Go Back To Godhead" BY SRILA PRABHUPADAtag:iskcondesiretree.com,2011-03-23:2103886:Topic:4848422011-03-23T10:45:33.649Zpadmavati matajihttps://iskcondesiretree.com/profile/padmavatidasi
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Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)<br />
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susrusoh sraddadhanasya<br />
vasudeva-katha-rucih<br />
syan mahat-sevaya viprah<br />
punya-tirtha-nisevanat<br />
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Translation: "O twice-born sages, by serving those devotees who are completely freed from all vice, great service is done. By such service, one gains affinity for hearing the messages of Vasudeva."<br />
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Prabhupada: Mahat-sevam dvaram ahur vimukteh [SB…
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Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)<br />
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susrusoh sraddadhanasya<br />
vasudeva-katha-rucih<br />
syan mahat-sevaya viprah<br />
punya-tirtha-nisevanat<br />
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Translation: "O twice-born sages, by serving those devotees who are completely freed from all vice, great service is done. By such service, one gains affinity for hearing the messages of Vasudeva."<br />
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Prabhupada: Mahat-sevam dvaram ahur vimukteh [SB 5.5.2]. In another place it is said, mahat-seva, rendering service to the pure devotee, mahat. Mahat means who is great soul. Who is great soul? Great soul means who is twenty-four hours engaged in the service of the Lord. In the Bhagavad-gita, the description of mahat, mahatma, is given there:<br />
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mahatmanas tu mam partha<br />
daivim prakrtim asritah<br />
bhajanty ananya manaso<br />
jnatva bhutadim avyayam<br />
[Bg. 9.13]<br />
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This is the mahatma. They are under the daivi-prakrti. Daivi-prakrti. There are two kinds of prakrtis. We have studied in Bhagavad-gita: apara-prakrti, para-prakrti. So para-prakrti, or nature, transcendental nature, that is called daivi-prakrti. Just like we are trying to be under the guidance of Radharani, daivi-prakrti. Prakrti means woman, and daivi, transcendental woman. And those who are materialists, they are under the maha-maya, material energy, Goddess Kali, Durga. They are the symbolic representation of material energy.<br />
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So those who are materialists, they take shelter of the material energy, and those who are transcendentalists, they take shelter of the transcendental nature. So those who are mahatma, they take shelter of the transcendental prakrti. So we have to render service to such person who is under the protection of the transcendental nature. That is called mahatma. A mahatma, this word you have heard. A mahatma's description is mahatmanas tu mam partha daivim prakrtim asritah [Bg. 9.13]. Mahatma has nothing to do with this material world; he is simply under the care of the transcendental prakrti.<br />
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So susrusoh, susrusoh sraddadhanasya. Those who are engaged in hearing with faith, sraddadhana... Adau sraddha. Without faith, you cannot make any progress. This is the beginning of spiritual life. Adau sraddha. "Oh, here is..., Krsna consciousness is going on. It is very nice. They are preaching nice." People still, they are praising our activities. If we keep our standard, then they will appreciate. So this is called sraddha. This appreciation is called sraddha, sraddadhanasya. Even he does not join, if one says, "Oh, it is very nice, it is very... These people are good." Sometimes they, in papers they say that "These Hare Krsna people are nice. We want more of them." They say. So this appreciation is also an, also a lift for such person. If he doesn't hear, doesn't come, simply one says "It is very nice. Yes." Just like small children, a baby, he's also appreciating, trying to stand up with his cymbal. Appreciating. From the very beginning of life, appreciating, "It is nice." He knows or does not know, it doesn't matter. Simply appreciation is giving him a touch of spiritual life. It is so nice. Sraddha. If they do not go against, simply appreciate, "Oh, they are doing nice..." So development of spiritual life means development of this appreciation, that's all. But degrees, there are appreciation.<br />
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So susrusoh sraddadhanasya vasudeva-katha-rucih. In the previous verse, it has been explained, yad anudhyasina yuktah. One has to be engaged always thinking. This is the sword. You have to take this sword of Krsna consciousness. Then you become free. The knot is cut by this sword. So... Now how we can get this sword? That process is described here that you simply, with faith, you try to hear. You'll get the sword. That's all. Actually, our this Krsna consciousness movement is spreading. We are getting the sword one after another, simply by hearing. I started this movement in New York. You all know. I had no actually any sword. Just like in some religious principles, they take the religious scriptures in one hand and another hand, sword: "You accept this scripture; otherwise, I'll cut your head." This is also another preaching. But I had also sword, but not that kind of sword. This sword -- to give chance people to hear. That's all.<br />
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Vasudeva-katha-rucih. So as soon as he gets a ruci... Ruci. Ruci means taste. "Ah, here is Krsna talks, very nice. Let me hear." This very much you get the sword, immediately. The sword is in your hand. Vasudeva-katha-rucih. But the ruci comes to whom? This taste? Because, as I have several times explained, the taste, just like the sugar candy. Everyone knows it is very sweet, but if you give to a man who is suffering from jaundice, he'll taste it's bitter. Everyone knows sugar candy is sweet, but the particular man who is suffering from disease, jaundice, he will taste the sugar candy as very bitter. Everyone knows it. That's a fact.<br />
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So ruci, the taste for hearing vasudeva-katha, krsna-katha, this materially diseased person cannot taste. This ruci, taste. To get this taste there are preliminary activities. What is that? First thing is that appreciation: "Oh, it is very nice." Adau sraddha, sraddadhana. So sraddha, the appreciation, this is the beginning. Then sadhu-sanga. Then mixing: "All right, these people are chanting and talking of Krsna. Let me go and sit down and let me hear more." This is called sadhu-sanga. Those who are devotees, to associate with them. This is the second stage. The third stage is bhajana-kriya. When one is associating nicely, then he will feel, "Why not become a disciple?" So we receive application, "Prabhupada, if you'll kindly accept me as your disciple." This is the beginning of bhajana-kriya. Bhajana-kriya means to be engaged in the service of the Lord. This is the third stage. Then anartha-nivrttih syat.<br />
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As soon as one is actually doing bhajana-kriya... Bhajana-kriya means chant Hare Krsna mantra and observe the regulative principles. To observe the regulative principles means anartha-nivrttih syat. Anartha means all rascal habits are immediately vanquished. Just like we say "No illicit sex." So this is only a rascal habit, illicit. "You can marry a boy or girl. If you like, you can have sex." No. They'll not agree. They will agree to that rascal habit, illicit sex. "You want sex? All right. wife, husband." But no, they want illicit, without marriage. Married wife left aside, another illicit. This is anartha, rascaldom.<br />
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According to Vedic civilization, because man is very aggressive, so he's allowed to accept more than one wife. He's allowed. Generally, female population is greater than the male population. So the Vedic principle is that every girl must be married by the guardian, father. A father's duty is, as soon as girl is thirteen years old, fourteen years old, it is the duty of the father, or in the absence of father, it is the duty of elder brother to get her married. Some way or other, find out any husband. Yes. So if every girl has to be married, and if the female population is greater, then where to get so many husbands? Therefore it is very nice system that one man can marry more than one wife. That is natural.<br />
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So in Vedic system a husband can marry... Why others? Krsna, He married 16,000 wives. But not like us. He was present in the house of 16,000 wives by 16,000 forms. Every, each and every wife had palatial building, establishment. Each wife had ten sons. Not that because He has married 16,000, He cannot meet all of them. No. So that is Krsna; He is God. But even common man... Just like Krsna's father, he had also sixteen wives. Krsna is one wife's son. Vasudeva... Subhadra is another wife's daughter. Balarama is another wife's son. So in order to stop this rascaldom, that a human, I mean to say, man, he's allowed: "Marry them. Keep them nicely. Give them apartment. Give them nice food, nice dress, nice ornament. You enjoy." But rascaldom means "No, without responsibility I shall make phish, phish, phish" that's all.<br />
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So this rascaldom, so long the rascaldom is not gone, illicit sex, intoxication... These are called anartha. Anartha. Unnecessarily they have created this atmosphere, illicit sex, intoxication. What is the use of intoxication? There is no need. Just like in our society there is no intoxication. We don't take tea, we don't smoke. Are we dying for that want of tea or smoke? No. Therefore it is anartha; it is unnecessary. So first stage is appreciation, sraddha. Second stage is associating with the devotees. Third stage is to be engaged in devotional service. And if one is actually executing the rules and regulations of devotional service, naturally he'll be freed from this rascaldom. Anartha-nivrttih syat. Then next stage is nistha, faith. That faith, beginning faith, becomes strong, fixed up. Then ruci this ruci, taste. Just like immediately, the person suffering from jaundice cannot taste sugar candy as sweet, but the sugar candy is the only medicine for him. He is to be given sugar candy, and in this way, as the disease is cured, he comes to this taste stage, "Oh, it is nice, it is sweet." (aside:) Don't do that.<br />
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So, to come to the stage of taste, you have to first go through the so many... Not so... Five stages.<br />
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adau sraddha tatah sadhu-sango 'tha bhajana-kriya<br />
tato 'nartha-nivrttih syat tato nistha rucis tatah<br />
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This ruci. Vasudeva-katha-rucih. Susrusoh sraddadhanasya. So if you continually hear with faith and appreciation, then you will come to the stage of tasting, "Yes." Taste means, if you like it, that is called taste. Not that by force one has to eat something. Unless he has got a taste for it... Just like if we are forced to eat meat, we cannot eat, because we have no taste for it. But another, as soon as you give a plate of meat, immediately, voracious eating. Yes. Because he has got the taste for it. So this taste is required. Then you get the sword, yad anudhyasina. If there is taste, then you can very nicely go on chanting Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare,/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. Because taste.<br />
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Just like Rupa Gosvami, he increased the taste. They were liberated souls. Therefore, he is writing that "If I could possess millions of tongue and trillions of ear, then I could nicely chant and hear." And so far we are concerned, because we have no taste, that sixteen rounds is also very difficult job. Because we have no taste. Why there is no taste? Because we are lacking in that previous processes. Bhajana-kriya.<br />
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So one after another, to get that sword, it, they requires this qualification: adau sraddha tatah sadhu-sangah. Then there is taste. Now how this taste is created, that is also explained in the next line. Syan mahat-sevaya. Mahat-sevaya. Mahat means... I have already explained. A devotee, pure devotee, whose..., who has no other business than to serve Krsna, he is called mahat. So one has to engage himself in the service of the pure devotee. As soon as we serve a pure devotee... As it is spoken by Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura, yasya prasadad bhagavat-prasadah **. Yasya prasadat. If you satisfy a pure devotee by your service, then, even there is some discrepancies, you get all these qualities. Syan mahat-sevaya rajan. Syan mahat-sevaya viprah. Viprah. All the audience members hearing Suta Gosvami, they were all brahmanas. Otherwise, how they will have got taste? Brahmana, Vaisnava, they have taste. Not the sudras. Because at the present moment there are sudras, they are lacking taste. But our propaganda is, by some way or other, even they are sudras, even they're demons, we are creating the taste. That is our Krsna consciousness movement. Even there is..., there is no taste for vasudeva-katha-rucih, still, our process is so nice that we create the taste. Nobody was interested in Krsna consciousness, but there are thousand now. How? Because we are trying or we have created the taste, by this process.<br />
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The process will be explained in the next verses very nicely, but the main principle is to hear. To hear and... That is also natural. If we are pure, then we shall be naturally inclined to hear. Just like child. He is not taught, he is not educated, he has no knowledge, but he is also trying to hear. He's trying to get up and join us. It is natural. Because in everyone's heart that krsna-bhakti, or devotional service to Krsna, is there. But it has been covered by material dirty things. So this chanting of Hare Krsna mantra is ceto-darpana-marjanam [Cc. Antya 20.12], to cleanse that dirty things. The more you chant, more you hear, then the dirty things on the heart will be cleansed. And plus, if you engage yourself to carry out the orders, to satisfy a pure devotee... Syan mahat-sevaya viprah, punya-tirtha-nisevanat... Punya, pious. These are pious activities. Tirtha, tirtha, a saintly person is called tirtha. And nisevanat. In other places also, the same thing is... Mahat-sevam dvaram ahur vimuktes tamo-dvaram yositam sangi-sangam. Mahat-sevam, serving the pure devotee, is the path of liberation. Mahat-sevam dvaram ahur vimuktes tamo-dvaram yositam sangi-sangam. And if we become too much sexually inclined, then it is the path of darkness. Two paths are there. Mahat-sevam dvaram ahur vimuktes tamo-dvaram yositam sangi-sangam. Not only to become personally very much sexually inclined, if you associate with a person who is sexually inclined, then you will fall down in the hell. Yositam sangi-sangam.<br />
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So we should be very much careful about this. Married life sex is allowed. Nothing else. That is sinful. Krsna says, dharmaviruddhah kamah. Lust, lust which is sanctioned by religious principles... Sanctioned means... This is sanction: you can have sex life in married life, not otherwise. If you want, more wife. But not more husband. No, that is not allowed. More wife is allowed. A man can have more wives, but woman cannot have more husband. Of course, in special cases, that is another... But generally, this is the rule. This is Vedic civilization. So as far as possible, we shall try to avoid this illicit sex, because that is very detrimental for advancing in the path of spiritual life. Therefore our first principle is no illicit sex. Mahat-sevam dvaram ahur vimuktes tamo-dvaram yositam sangi-sangam.<br />
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So things are difficult, at the same time very easy, provided we are determined that "In this life, I shall go back to home, back to Godhead." So these are the processes. So? Purport?<br />
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Pradyumna: "The conditioned life of a living being is caused<br />
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by his revolting against the Lord..."<br />
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Prabhupada: That's all right, no time. Now chant Hare Krsna. (end)<br />
Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.2.16 -- Los Angeles, August 19, 1972 "Developing Taste" BY SRILA PRABHUPADAtag:iskcondesiretree.com,2011-03-23:2103886:Topic:4844262011-03-23T10:42:57.504Zpadmavati matajihttps://iskcondesiretree.com/profile/padmavatidasi
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Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)<br />
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susrusoh sraddadhanasya<br />
vasudeva-katha-rucih<br />
syan mahat-sevaya viprah<br />
punya-tirtha-nisevanat<br />
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Translation: "O twice-born sages, by serving those devotees who are completely freed from all vice, great service is done. By such service, one gains affinity for hearing the messages of Vasudeva."<br />
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Prabhupada:<br />
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susrusoh…
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Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)<br />
<br />
susrusoh sraddadhanasya<br />
vasudeva-katha-rucih<br />
syan mahat-sevaya viprah<br />
punya-tirtha-nisevanat<br />
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Translation: "O twice-born sages, by serving those devotees who are completely freed from all vice, great service is done. By such service, one gains affinity for hearing the messages of Vasudeva."<br />
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Prabhupada:<br />
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susrusoh sraddadhanasya<br />
vasudeva-katha-rucih<br />
syan mahat-sevaya viprah<br />
punya-tirtha-nisevanat<br />
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So our purpose is, as described in the previous verses, how to become Krsna conscious. Our present consciousness is absorbed in so many external subject matters. One is self-centered, bodily conscious; some of them are family-wise, family conscious. Some of them, community conscious, society conscious, nation conscious, or international conscious. Utmost. No more, finish their business. But still, you have to extend more and more. "International" means within this u..., within this planet. But what is this planet? It is only insignificant spot within the universe. So if you increase your consciousness more and more, then it may be interplanetary consciousness. But what is this interplanetary? This universe contains millions of planets. That's all right. But there are millions of universes also. Yasya prabha prabhavato jagad-anda-koti [Bs. 5.40]. Not only one universe. This universe which we are seeing, this is only one of them. Caitanya Mahaprabhu compared this universe... One devotee, he requested Caitanya Mahaprabhu, "My Lord, You have come. Please liberate all the people of this universe. And if they are sinful, so all their sins, I may take, but they may be delivered." This is Vaisnava philosophy. "Others may be delivered by the grace of the Lord. I may rot in the hell. That doesn't matter." Not that, "First of all I go to the heaven, and others will rot." This is not Vaisnava philosophy. Vaisnava philosophy is, "I may rot in hell, but others may be delivered." Patitanam pavanebhyo vaisnavebhyo namo namah.<br />
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Vaisnava is meant for all the fallen souls. Just like a very good example: Lord Jesus Christ. According to the Christian idea, he took all the sins of all people and he sacrificed his life. Very good example. Similarly, Haridasa Thakura also. There... Nityananda Prabhu. The Vaisnava is always eager how to deliver all these fallen souls rotting in the hell of maya. Therefore it is recommended, syan mahat-sevaya. You have to take shelter of a mahat. Mahat means mahatma or Vaisnava. Sa mahatma sudurlabhah. That mahatma, simply by dressing like me with a saffron cloth, does not become a mahatma. The mahatma is described in the Bhagavad-gita:<br />
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bahunam janmanam ante<br />
jnanavan mam prapadyate<br />
vasudevah sarvam iti<br />
sa mahatma sudurlabhah<br />
[Bg. 7.19]<br />
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There are many mahatmas, but one who has understood Vasudeva, Krsna, is the cause of all causes...<br />
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isvarah paramah krsnah<br />
sac-cid-ananda-vigrahah<br />
anadir adir govindah<br />
sarva-karana-karanam<br />
[Bs. 5.1]<br />
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He's mahatma. One who knows that Krsna, Vasudeva, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is the origin of everything... Krsna also says in the Bhagavad-gita,<br />
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aham sarvasya prabhavo<br />
mattah sarvam pravartate<br />
iti matva bhajante mam<br />
budha bhava-samanvitah<br />
[Bg. 10.8]<br />
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Actually, one who knows things as they are, they understand, vasudevah sarvam iti [Bg. 7.19], "Vasudeva, Krsna, is the root of everything." Here also it is stated that susrusoh sraddadhanasya vasudeve, vasudeva-katha-rucih. To know, to become inquisitive about Krsna, to know about him, this is required. This is Krsna consciousness.<br />
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In Caitanya-caritamrta it is said,<br />
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siddhanta baliya citte na kara alasa<br />
iha ha-ite krsne lage sudrdha manasa<br />
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Siddhanta, to become a pure devotee, a staunch devotee of Krsna, one has to learn about Krsna. Krsna is, therefore, coming personally to teach us what He is. That is required. Vasudeva-katha-ruci. Our life is meant for becoming Krsna conscious. Ruci. This ruci is very important thing. Ruci means... Just like we like to eat some favorable food. That is called ruci. Somebody is interested in eating some salty food, somebody's interested some sweet food, spicy food... Just like we have got taste for different types of food, similarly, when we shall increase our taste, propensity for Krsna, that is the beginning of our perfection. Before that, we are in the material consciousness. When we increase the taste for Krsna, for understanding Krsna... This ruci comes when one is actually liberated. This ruci. Tato 'nartha-nivrttih syat. First of all, sraddadhanasya. As it is stated here, sraddha, faith. Krsna is... Krsna says that mattah parataram nanyat kincid asti dhananjaya [Bg. 7.7], "There is no more superior authority than Me." Mattah parataram na anyat. Na, "Nobody else. I am the Supreme." So when we have faith in this explanation of Krsna...<br />
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As Arjuna said... Arjuna, after hearing Bhagavad-gita, he said, sarvam etad rtam manye yad vadasi kesava [Bg. 10.14], "My dear Krsna, whatever You are saying, I accept them in toto, word for word." This is required. Not that I give up this portion, I give up that portion, whatever is to my purpose... Just like sometimes the politicians, scholars, they also try to understand Bhagavad-gita. Because Bhagavad-gita is very authoritative book, they want to exploit. They do not understand what is Bhagavad-gita. Otherwise they would have preached Krsna. Because what is Bhagavad-gita? Bhagavad-gita is Krsna, Krsna, the supreme. That is to be taught. That is to be understood. That is Bhagavad-gita. Not that keeping Bhagavad-gita in front, a scapegoat, I become great politician and great scholar and give my own opinion: "In my opinion, it is like this." This is nonsense. What you are? Your opinion? We don't care, we don't care for all these nonsense who gives his own opinion as if Krsna left something to be opined by another rascal. This is their business. He becomes greater than Krsna, to interpret Krsna's words. This is rascaldom. We don't accept.<br />
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We accept yad vadasi kesava, following the footsteps of Arjuna, who directly understood Bhagavad-gita. He said, "My dear Krsna, whatever You say, I accept them as it is." Then others may say, "Well, Arjuna was Krsna's friend. So just to flatter Him, he might have said like that." No. Arjuna gave immediately evidences that "I..., not only I accept You, but great personalities like Vyasa, Narada, Devala, Asita, and many others." Authorities. Just like when you speak something in the legal court, you give evidences from other judgement, authorities. That is a good case. Similarly, Arjuna accepted Krsna as the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Param brahma param dhama pavitram paramam bhavan [Bg. 10.12]. "My dear Krsna, I accept You. You are the Supreme Brahman." Brahmeti bhagavan, paramatmeti bhagavan iti sabdyate. Brahmeti bhagavan, paramatmeti bhagavan iti sabdyate. Therefore Bhagavan is param brahma. Simply impersonal Brahman-realization is not finishing the business. You have to go further, further, further. In the Isopanisad, it is said, "My dear Lord, kindly wind up Your blazing effulgence so that I can see You actually." That is stated in the Isopanisad.<br />
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So one should not be, I mean to say, amazed simply by realization of impersonal Brahman. There is further business. Brahmeti paramatmeti. Just like we are experiencing daily the sunshine. So if we become satisfied with the sunshine only -- "Now we have come to the light" -- that is not perfection. You go to the sun planet. Because from there, from the sun planet, the sunshine is coming out. So the source of sunshine is the sun planet. But unfortunately, it is very difficult to enter into the sun planet. And if you enter into the sun planet, you'll find there is a predominating deity whose name is Vivasvan, god, sun-god. These are the statements. As Bhagava..., Bhagavad-gita says,<br />
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imam vivasvate yogam<br />
proktavan aham avyayam<br />
vivasvan manave praha<br />
manur iksvakave 'bravit<br />
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So formerly people used to go to the sun planet. It requires such yogic mystic power. Just like Durvasa Muni. He used to travel all over the universe, and beyond the universe. He reached to the Vaikuntha planets also by yogic power, and he returned within one year. So it is possible. You can go. The yogis, the perfect yogis, they can transfer them to any planet they desire. Any planet they desire. These are stated in the sastras, in the Bhagava..., Srimad-Bhagavatam.<br />
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So to become Krsna conscious, that is the highest perfection of life. Param Brahman. Param Brahman. Brahman, impersonal effulgence. Just like the sunshine. Then localized sun, the sun globe. Then further, if you able to enter the sun globe, you'll find there is a predominating deity. There are also cities and palaces -- everything, just like this planet. But this planet is made prominently of earth, and that planet is one of the elements, material elements, earth, water, fire, air. So if this planet is made of earth, why not other planet made of fire? What is the scientific reason to deny it? Because I cannot live in the fire, it does not mean other living entities cannot live there. There are different kinds of living entities. Just like you cannot live within the water, within the ocean, but there are other living entities... Just like fish. They live very comfortably within the water. So why should we conclude that there is no life in the sun planet or moon planet? This is not perfect knowledge. From Vedic books we can understand that this moon planet is one of the heavenly planets and people live there. They are demigods. Their duration of life is very long. And one can go to that planet by performing the rituals. They are described. In the Bhagavad-gita also it is said, yanti deva-vrata devan. If you are serious to go to the planets where demigods live, you can go. There are rules and regulations, rituals. Just like if you want to pass law examination, you prepare for that examination, and you pass, you become a lawyer. You become an engineer. Similarly, any planet you want to go, you prepare in this life. Don't degrade yourself to become again cats and dogs, but you prepare yourself to be promoted to the other, higher planetary system... As it is stated in the Bhagavad-gita, urdhvam gacchanti sattva-sthah. You can go there.<br />
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Krsna says,<br />
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yanti deva-vrata devan<br />
pitrn yanti pitr-vratah<br />
bhutani yanti bhutejya<br />
yanti mad-yajino 'pi mam<br />
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So there is another planet... Not another planet, another nature, sanatana. Paras tasmat tu bhavo 'nyo 'vyakto 'vyaktat sanatanah [Bg. 8.20]. There is another nature, eternal nature. That is called Vaikunthaloka. Yad gatva na nivartante tad dhama paramam mama [Bg. 15.6]. Every dhama, every place, is Krsna's. He's the supreme proprietor. Sarva-loka-mahesvaram. "I am the proprietor." But there are differentiation, param dhama and aparam dhama. This is aparam dhama. This material world is aparam dhama, inferior nature. These are stated in the Bhagavad-gita. Apareyam itas tu viddhi me prakrtim param. Itas tu viddhi me prakrtim param. There is another prakrti, another nature. There is Vaikunthaloka. Not one, two, but millions, unlimited. And the topmost planet is called Goloka Vrndavana. That is mad-dhama, Krsna says, or tad-dhama.<br />
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So all these informations are there. Simply we have to know. Unfortunately, because we are too much materially absorbed, we cannot understand. We cannot understand. Neither we are very much interested to know. So vasudeva-katha-rucih. There is no ruci because they are conditioned by the material nature, by the three modes of material nature: sattva-guna, rajo-guna... Tamo-guna is the lowest, rajo-guna is the via media, and one who is the sattva-guna, he can understand. Therefore the whole Vedic civilization is meant for making people brahmana. Not to keep him in ignorance, not to keep him in the position of a sudra. The whole Vedic scheme is that from the lowest grade of li..., existence, one can be elevated to the highest grade. Sudhyanti. Sudhyanti, purification. That is purification. In ordinary life also, there are purificatory methods, dasa-vidha-samskara. That purificatory method begins before the birth, which is called garbhadhana-samskara. Not that a man, a high-caste brahmana or ksatriya or even vaisya... Especially brahmana and ksatriya. Especially brahmana. He's not meant for giving birth to a child like cats and dogs. He has to observe the garbhadhana-samskara. In the sastra it is said in a brahmana family, if the garbhadhana-samskara is not observed, he immediately falls down to the sudra class.<br />
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Kalau sudra-sambhavah. Because this garbhadhana-samskara is not observed, therefore it is to be taken, accepted, everyone is a sudra. But the Krsna consciousness movement is to again elevate the sudra to the standard of brahmana. This is the Krsna consciousness movement. Because without brahmana... Just like without head, what is the value of your body? Brahmana means the head.<br />
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mukha-bahuru-padebhyah<br />
purusasyasramaih saha<br />
catvaro jajnire varna<br />
gunair vipradayah prthak<br />
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Brahmana means the head. Therefore brahmana is offered so much respect. Because head, without head, in the head, in the brain, you conceive something, and the hands and legs, they execute the order. Similarly, the head of the society, they should be the brahmanas. They are not interested in capturing political power. No. Brahmana is to give instruction. We find from Vedic literature. There were committees, privy council committees of great sages and brahmanas. They would give the king advice that "You rule in this way." And if the king is disobedient, sometimes the brahmanas would dethrone them. Or kill them. That was the Vedic system. We find from the life and ruling of Maharaja Prthu, how he was ruling over the world, how he was observing that every community, either brahmana or ksatriya or vaisya or sudra, they were properly employed. There was no unemployment question. It was the duty of the king to see that not a single man is unemployed. He must be engaged. So they made arrangement like that.<br />
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So what is the idea? The idea is to elevate everyone gradually to the position of brahmana and Vaisnava and thus make their life perfect. That is the scheme of Vedic civilization. Catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah [Bg. 4.13]. Not that "Keep the sudras or the mlecchas in the downtrodden position, and let me advance." No. Everyone should cooperate. Why the sudras or mlecchas and yavanas should remain as such? Actually, India's falldown is meant by that process. Nobody cared. So many Muslims, they converted, but the higher caste, they did not care. "Oh, they have become Muslims. Reject them." Why reject? Krsna says,<br />
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mam hi partha vyapasritya<br />
ye pi syuh papa-yonayah<br />
striyo vaisyas tatha sudras<br />
te 'pi yanti param gatim<br />
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Why these Muslims were neglected? Why they were not turned into Vaisnavas, just like we are doing? This is the fault of the leaders. Therefore India is now divided, Pakistan and Hindustan.<br />
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So if we actually try to understand Krsna and Krsna consciousness, there is solution for all the problems of society, of government, and everything. It is not a sentimental movement. Vasudeva-katha-rucih. One must increase the taste for understanding Krsna. Just like Krsna came. He came not only to dance with the gopis. He took part in politics. He killed so many demons. He established good government. He showed how householders' life. Krsna It is all in our Krsna book, Srimad-Bhagavatam. He was lying with His beautiful queens, and as soon as there is cock crow, immediately He would rise, early in the morning, three o'clock. The queens will be disgusted: "Now it is early in the morning. Krsna will go away." But Krsna immediately gave up the company of the wife and immediately rise and immediately take bath and do the needful as it is enjoined in the Vedic performances. He's ideal grhastha. He will give in charity every day thirteen thousands of cows to the brahmanas. Read all these things. Don't think that Krsna consciousness movement is simply dugdughi.(?) Not dugdughi. It includes everything, all-pervasive. Krsna is aham sarvasya prabhavah, Krsna is the root of everything. Therefore anything you conceive of, politics, sociology, philosophy, religion, anything, there is adjustment if you become Krsna conscious. That is the Krsna consciousness movement.<br />
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Yad yad acarati sresthas tat tad evetaro janah. Therefore we want some leading personalities to become Krsna conscious so that others will follow. So that others will follow. But if we go some leading personality, minister or prime minister, "Oh, we are secular. We have rejected Krsna." That's all. Nonsense. What is your value, rejecting your Krsna? Harav abhaktasya kuto mahad-gunah. You are rejected. You have no good qualification. You have rejected Krsna. Therefore we reject you. Harav abhaktasya kuto mahad-gunah. Anyone who is not Krsna conscious, he has no value. We don't give any value, however he may pose himself as a very great man. No. We say, harav abhaktasya kuto mahad-gunah. Mano-rathenasati dhavato bahih. "Because you are not Krsna conscious, you are hovering on the mental plane. Therefore you must fall down." This is the conclusion of sastra.<br />
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So here it is, susrusoh sraddadhanasya. Just like you all people have gathered. There is sraddha, that "Let us hear something about Krsna, what Swamiji's spoke, speaking." This is called sraddha. This sraddha has to be increased. Then when you come to the point of ruci, vasudeva-katha-rucih, that is the beginning of our perfection. At the present moment, there is no ruci, no taste. Vasudeva-katha-rucih. There are so many exalted persons, but they have no taste. They have lost all taste. Vasudeva-katha-rucih. There are two faults. Either people could not preach properly so that they could not create taste of the people in general... It is not the fault of the people in general. It is the fault of the so-called preachers also. Because they could not create taste, they wanted to take the place of Krsna. That was their purpose. Imitation of Krsna. Imitation of God. That will not do. You have to create taste. Just like Caitanya Mahaprabhu did. Namo maha-vadanyaya krsna-prema-pradaya te [Madhya 19.53]. Srila Rupa Gosvami, when he first met Caitanya Mahaprabhu, he offered this prayer: namo maha-vadanyaya, "You are the most munificent incarnation because you are giving Krsna. You are giving Krsna. You are, You are greater than Krsna." Maha-vadanyaya. Because Krsna asked everybody to surrender. He did not give himself immediately. But Caitanya Mahaprabhu. He's also Krsna, in the form of devotee, He's giving Himself, "Take me," without any price.<br />
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So vasudeva-katha-rucih. People should be educated how to increase the taste for understanding Krsna. This is Krsna consciousness movement. Everyone should come forward. Apani acari prabhu jivere siksaya. One should behave himself as Krsna conscious. Then he will be able to make others Krsna conscious -- not by theoretical knowledge, but by behavior. Apani acari prabhu jivere siksaya. So this is required. It is a very, very, very important movement. Any leader of the society, any political leader, any social leader, they should study. Our only request is that "Please try to understand this Krsna consciousness movement." Just like in the Caitanya-caritamrta karaca says that caitanyera dayara katha karaha vicara. It is not blindly accepting. Vicara. Just judge yourself how great important this movement is. Caitanyera dayara katha karaha vicara. Vicara karile citte pabe camatkara. If you are sober, thoughtful, you'll find it is sublime. It is sublime.<br />
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So that is our request. The people who are leaders of the society, they should take this Krsna conscious movement very seriously, study, and then give their judgment. And people will be happy.<br />
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Thank you very much. (end)<br />
Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.2.16 -- Vrndavana, October 27, 1972 "Don't Be Carried Away By Maya" BY SRILA PRABHUPADAtag:iskcondesiretree.com,2011-03-23:2103886:Topic:4845292011-03-23T10:39:55.746Zpadmavati matajihttps://iskcondesiretree.com/profile/padmavatidasi
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Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)<br />
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rupam sa jagrhe matsyam<br />
caksusodadhi-samplave<br />
navy aropya mahi-mayyam<br />
apad vaivasvatam manum<br />
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Translation: "When there was a complete inundation after the period of the Caksusa Manu and the whole world was deep within water, the Lord accepted the form of a fish and protected Vaivasvata Manu, keeping him up on a boat."<br />
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Prabhupada: So here is…
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Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)<br />
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rupam sa jagrhe matsyam<br />
caksusodadhi-samplave<br />
navy aropya mahi-mayyam<br />
apad vaivasvatam manum<br />
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Translation: "When there was a complete inundation after the period of the Caksusa Manu and the whole world was deep within water, the Lord accepted the form of a fish and protected Vaivasvata Manu, keeping him up on a boat."<br />
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Prabhupada: So here is history also. This Vedic history is not that for one thousand years or two thousand years. No, not like that. One period. One millennium, Brahma's one day, it is millions and millions of years. So just like there is night after day, day after night, similarly, the Brahma's day, Brahma's night, that is calculated. And one Brahma's day. You know, that is described in the Bhagavad-gita. Sahasra-yuga-paryantam ahar yad brahmano viduh [Bg. 8.17]. So Brahma's one day means one thousand times of the yugas. The yugas means the Satya-yuga, Kali-yuga, and..., Treta-yuga, Dvapara-yuga, and Kali-yuga. So Satya-yuga's duration is about 1800,000's of years. The next, Treta-yuga, duration about 1200,000's of years. And then Dvapara-yuga, 800,000's of years, solar years.<br />
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We are calculating the years, the time also relative. That is the latest theory of the scientists, law of relativity. My hundred years and Brahma's hundred years and an ant's hundred years, a germ's hundred years, they are not the same. Similarly time calculation, if you go in the upper planetary system, that time calculation is different. Just like in modern age, the sputnik age, they are flying sputnik. The first sputnik flight, they circumambulated this earth three times in one twenty-five hour and minutes. And they saw that there is night and day. Here in this planet our night and day experience is twenty-four hours. But as soon as you leave this planet, you fly in a different speed, there is three times night and day in one hour and minutes. So similarly everyone lives hundred years, but that hundred years are all relative. An ant's hundred years and man's hundred years is not the same. Similarly, a man's hundred years and a demigod's hundred years not the same. In different planetary system the time is... Similarly, if you go still up and up, the time is relative.<br />
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So we are calculating our three thousand years, four thousand years in our system. That three thousand or four thousand years, as soon as you go little up, it become one hour, twenty-five minutes. So Brahma's one day is different. But it is stated in the Bhagavad-gita... You know, who are reading Bhagavad... Sahasra-yuga-paryantam ahar yad brahmano viduh [Bg. 8.17]. You try to understand Brahma's one day equal to our one thousand times of the yugas. And the yugas, as I have already explained... The Satya-yuga, 1800,000's of years; Treta-yuga, 1200,000's of years. In the Satya-yuga people used to live for 100,000's of years. Valmiki Muni, he practiced yoga for 60,000's of years. So unless one has got 100,000's of years duration of life, how he could practice 60,000's of years? So we should understand, everything is relative. This is called relative world. Relativity, law of relativity.<br />
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So Brahma's one day means 4300,000's of years of our calculation. Forty-three hundred thousands of years, little more. That is Brahma's one day. And in that one day, 4300,000's of years, there are fourteen manus changing. So these are described here. The manu, Caksusa Manu, Vaivasvata Manu. There are fourteen manus. So the calculation is in one day of Brahma, ah, in one month of Brahma, there are about five thousand manus. So this calculation is taken in the duration of manu's life.<br />
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The Bhagavad-gita says,<br />
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imam vivasvate yogam<br />
proktavan aham avyayam<br />
vivasvan manave praha<br />
manur iksvakave 'bravit<br />
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So this is the parampara system. So here it is, Vaivasvata Manu. What is text number? Fifteen. Here it is. Vaivasvata Manu. So this Vaivasvata Manu means at the present moment the president of the sun planet is called Vivasvan. His name is Vivasvan. And because his son Manu... Vivasvan manave praha... The Bhagavad-gita was spoken long, long ago by Krsna to the sun-god, Vivasvan. Vivasvan. They are trying to understand the historical dates. So how you can understand the historical date? It is beyond your calculation. You cannot calculate even one Brahma's day. And in Brahma's one day there are fourteen manus. So it is beyond your brain substance. You can have some idea.<br />
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Now here it is said Vaivasvata Manu. Vaivasvata Manu. There are different manus. Just like first of all it is said Caksusa Manu. Similarly, next it is said Vaivasvata Manu. So this Vaivasvata Manu is the son of sun-god. There are two kinds of ksatriya families within this planet: one coming from the moon and the other is coming from the sun. The first person, I mean to say, first father of this ksatriya family from sun, his first son is manu. And his name is Vaivasvata Manu. Because he is the son of Vivasvan, therefore his father's name is also added. In India the system is still that when a man will give you name, the first name is his own name, the second name is his father's name, and the third name is his village name. So that by three names he will understand that "This man is the son of such and such gentleman and coming from such and such village." Complete name. Just like when we give our identification, we give our own name, our father's name and address. That is complete identification. So still, not in everywhere, in almost all provinces of India, the system is still current. State..., especially in Maharastra province. Maharastra province, they exactly will give you his own name his father's name, and his village name.<br />
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So here also, Vaivasvata Manu. Vaivasvata Manu means the son of the gentleman whose name is Vivasvan. He is the president of this solar world, of the sun, sun planet. There is also president. You have got your president here. Why not in the sun planet? Why...? How can you deny with teeny knowledge that there is no life, there is no city, there is no...? Simply you go on smoking ganja and telling anything, but the fact is different. The fact is different. From common sense we can understand that this is a planet made of five elements: earth, water, fire, air, and ether. So this whole material world is made of these five elements. Somewhere, some portion is very prominent. Here the earth is very prominent. Similarly, in the sun planet the fire is very prominent. But there are five elements. Nothing is made... Just like if you go to a fireplace, there the temperature is different, but the fireplace is made of these five elements: earth, water, air, fire, ether. Nothing but.<br />
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Therefore if we study Bhagavad-gita very carefully, you understand everything. A little brain required. Just like we can... Just you, when you go to the oven, fire, fireplace, that fireplace, the stove... What is the stove? The stove is made of these five elements, earth, water, fire, air, but there the fire is very prominent. Therefore you cannot touch it. You do not go there. Similarly, sun planet is not very wonderful thing. It is also made of the same ingredients as it is made here in this planet, because the whole material world is made of these five elements. But there the fire element is very prominent. Therefore we are thinking, "How one can live there?" How one can cook in the kitchen when the fire is so hot? It is possible. Just like you can see in the water. You cannot live in the water, but there are thousands and millions of living entities. They are very comfortably living. The same living entities, you bring on the land, they cannot live. But you can live.<br />
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So it is, God's creation is like that. According to karma, there are different species of forms of life, but they have got all facilities to live. That is God's creation. Mayadhyaksena prakrtih suyate sa-caracaram [Bg. 9.10]. The direction is there, that this living entity wanted a body to swim in the sea very jubilantly, so now he has got the body of a fish. So let him live very peacefully. That is God's mercy. You take very much pleasure with that surf... What is called, in the sea?<br />
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Devotee: Surfboard.<br />
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Prabhupada: Surfboard? Yes. (laughter) So if you increase your engage..., "How I shall be swimming and enjoy this sport all day and night?" then Krsna will give you the body of a fish. (laughter) Yes. He is very kind. And you will very nicely live in the sea, always swimming without any difficulty. Every life. As you increase your propensity for a certain type of activities, nature is ready immediately: "Take this body. Why you are anxious? Take this body." Similarly, if you become anxious to have a body like Krsna, that is also ready. Now it is your choice. If you like, you take the body of a fish, or if you like, you take the body of sac-cid-ananda-vigraha [Bs. 5.1], eternal, blissful knowledge.<br />
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So we are trying to give that body. Not a fish body, cat's body, dog's body. That we have experienced, past life. We have got this life now to make discretion, to make choice, what kind of body we are going to get next. That is intelligence. That is intelligence. Not that to give away with the waves of this time. Mayar bose jaccho bhese' Khaccho habudubu bhai. Bhaktivinoda Thakura therefore sings that "Don't be carried away by the waves of maya. Now you have got intelligence. You try to understand that you are eternal servant of Krsna and do the needful. Then get out of this maya's webs." This is Krsna consciousness movement, giving the right information, that "If you do not want to be carried away by the waves of this maya, material nature, then take to this consciousness so that at the time of your death you will change this body to Krsna planet, Krsna, Goloka Vrndavana." Tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti [Bg. 4.9]. Krsna says. Krsna is not making lying propaganda. He has no business. He is giving you information, that if you become Krsna conscious, janma karma me divyam, always thinking of Krsna -- how He is acting, why He has come, why He has appeared, why He has given us the Bhagavad-gita, what lessons He is giving -- in this way, if you simply try to understand Krsna, janma karma me divyam yo janati tat..., in truth, not whimsically, not sentimentally, with sound philosophy, knowledge, argument, you try to understand Bhagavad-gita as it is, then you get tyaktva deham... Then after giving up this body, undoubtedly you go back to Krsna, go back to home back to Godhead.<br />
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This is the proposition, Krsna consciousness movement. Otherwise, these changes of Manu, changes of millennium, changes of devastation... In every... Manvantara. At the end of Manu, there is another devastation. Pralaya-samplave, caksusodadhi-samplave. After the span of life of Caksusa Manu, there is another inundation. And then again everything comes out gradually and the water dries. Just like you see the Pacific Ocean, it is drying. Of course, we shall not live, but if hundreds years after, if somebody comes here, he will see that the Los Angeles city has expanded and the Pacific Ocean has diminished. This is going on. In this way, one day will be, there will be no Pacific Ocean. And therefore, without water, everyone will die. Simply sunshine, bright sunshine. So then again, as there is after bright sunshine there is cloud and rain, similarly, again there will be rain. Then again there will be water. Samplave, inundation. This is going on. Bhutva bhutva praliyate. This material world, these scientists, the rascal scientists, they are trying to save it, "How to run on our motorcar, how our grandchildren who are coming, how they will drive this motorcar." They are thinking and trying to find out some energy. But the rascals, they do not know where they are going. He is thinking for the future grandchildren. What is the relationship with grandchildren? There are so many living entities, they are coming and going. Bhutva bhutva praliyate.<br />
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So our relationship is just like sometimes there is wind and some straws gather together, and as soon as the wind is finished the straws are again strewn everywhere. So our this gathering, this father, mother, son, children, grandchildren, it is like that. By nature's blast, we gather together, again finished. So where is your grandchildren, where is your grandfather?<br />
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prakrteh kriyamanani<br />
gunaih karmani sarvasah<br />
ahankara-vimudhatma<br />
kartaham iti manyate<br />
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They are, by the freaks of nature, by the arrangement of nature, they are gathering together. So-called nation, so-called family, so-called society. Again, by freaks of nature, they are thrown here and there. Sometimes somebody is going to be cat, sometimes he's he is going to be dog. So if your grandchild, grandson is going to be a cat and dog, how he is coming to drive your motorcar? (laughter) But these rascals, they do not know. They are trying to make provision, "How my grandchildren will drive car. The petrol will be finished, and what other energy we shall make in stock so that my grandchildren will come and very comfortably drive his car?"<br />
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This is called maya-mohita.<br />
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maya-mugdha jivera nahi svatah krsna-jnana<br />
jivere krpaya kaila krsna veda-purana<br />
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That is stated in the Caitanya-cari... We are so much engrossed by the influence of maya that we are trying to do so many things, but our only business is how to forget Krsna. That's all. Our real business is how we can kill Krsna -- "There is no God" -- how we can forget Krsna. And we are very busy in finding out petroleum energy. This is our business. Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu says, anadi-bahirmukha jivera svatah krsna nahi jnana.(?) We are so much foolish, influenced by the illusory energy, that by automatically we cannot understand Krsna. Because we are influenced. Therefore this propaganda required. Not that automatically they will come to Krsna consciousness. There is need of spreading, unless... If you want to save..., if you are actually benevolent to your countrymen, to your society, to the human society, you must preach this Krsna consciousness movement. Otherwise they are going away, they are carried away by the influence of maya. That is... Therefore the most welfare activities, the most valuable welfare activity is to spread this Krsna consciousness movement all over the world. Otherwise they are being carried away by maya. Anadi-bahirmukha jivera svatah kr..., ataeva krsna kaila veda-purana.<br />
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Now we have to accept knowledge from Vedas, Vedic knowledge, not this rascal's knowledge. Rascal knowledge is that "Yes," as soon as he comes to the imperfect point, "yes, we are trying." You are trying. What is this trying? Trying means that your knowledge is imperfect. And another rascal will come, he will say, "Now here is the perfect." And ten years after, another rascal will come," No, this is not perfect. This is perfect." This is going on. This is called scientific advancement. This is... Advancement means... But we don't change our Vedic knowledge. We do not say, "Now, Krsna, five thousand years ago, said like this. Now we are advanced. We change this line." Of course, others are doing. In the scriptures... Just like the Christians, they are changing the words. But you cannot do that. Then where is the authority? If you change the word of the scripture, then where is the authority of the scripture? Just like in lawbooks, there is some law made already. Whimsically you cannot, I mean to say, erase the words and put something that "It should be changed like this." That will not be accepted. Law, if there is change... Actually, there is no change. There cannot be change. Real law means there is no change. Just like day and night, it is coming. The fortnight, the dark period and the light period, it is coming for millions and millions and time immemorial. The same law is going, going on. You cannot change. So as soon as you change, that means it is imperfect. You change.<br />
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So Vedic laws are not like that. You cannot change. Five thousand years ago Krsna said, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja: [Bg. 18.66] "You give up all other religious principles. Simply surrender unto Me." We are preaching the same thing. No change. No change. There is no possibility of change. Then how Krsna is authority? So change means imperfect knowledge. This very change. And perfect knowledge... You will find that one who is very experienced medical practitioner, he gives you a prescription, and you visit him again and again, he gives you the same prescription unless you are cured. His prescription is so nice that he doesn't change. But a nonexperienced physician, every time you go, he will change the prescription. But actually, those who are experienced, he knows "This is the disease, and ultimately this medicine will cure. So let him repeat that medicine." So our is that platform. Harer nama harer nama harer namaiva kevalam [Adi 17.21]. We repeat only. We don't change: "Now harinama is not curing so let me add, instead of Hare Krsna, ‘John Krsna,' if I may." No. No "John Krsna." (laughter) That same Hare Krsna must be repeated. And you will be cured. So change means imperfect knowledge. No change means that is perfect knowledge. So we follow that no change policy. No, not that because I think I have become now advanced, I change this to that. That mean I am not advanced. My knowledge is imperfect. Therefore I am changing.<br />
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So this verse, the appearance of Vaivasvata Manu is described. So Vaivasvata Manu is incarnation of God. Svayambhuva Manu, Vaivasvata Manu. As I told you, there are fourteen manus within the day. Now out of that fourteen manus, this is the seventh manu. It is going on. This Vaivasvata Manu is the seventh manu. So another seven manus, when they will be finished, this one day of Brahma will be finished, and there will be another devastation. This is the law of nature.<br />
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Thank you very much. (end)<br />
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Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)<br />
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yad anudhyasina yuktah<br />
karma-granthi-nibandhanam<br />
chindanti kovidas tasya<br />
ko na kuryat katha-ratim<br />
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Prabhupada: In London, they used to put a blackboard and write the verse so everyone could see and chant. You may arrange like that. In big letters, so that they will hear the sound and see. It is practical. All right, word meaning.<br />
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Pradyumna:…
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Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)<br />
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yad anudhyasina yuktah<br />
karma-granthi-nibandhanam<br />
chindanti kovidas tasya<br />
ko na kuryat katha-ratim<br />
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Prabhupada: In London, they used to put a blackboard and write the verse so everyone could see and chant. You may arrange like that. In big letters, so that they will hear the sound and see. It is practical. All right, word meaning.<br />
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Pradyumna: (reads synonyms) Translation: "With sword in hand, intelligent men cut through the labyrinthine knots of reactionary work, or karma, by remembering the Lord. Therefore, who will not pay attention to His message?"<br />
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Prabhupada: So knot. We have experience... (microphone adjusted) Do it nicely. Karma-granthi. Granthi means knot. So... Just like a man, if it is tied very strongly with ropes, hand and legs, he cannot move independently, similarly, we are tied up by the laws of material nature. Material nature. Just like we, when we become criminal, we become... We are always bound up by the laws of the state; either criminal or civil, it doesn't matter. But criminal is more strong. When we are under criminal laws, then it becomes very painful. We cannot violate the state laws, either criminal or civil; it doesn't matter. But if we violate the civil law, there is no such strong punishment, but if we violate the criminal laws, then it is very strong.<br />
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Similarly, we living entities, those who are conditioned by this body... This body itself is a punishment. That, these rascal people, they do not know. They are trying to enjoy this body. The body, there are senses... So they are satisfied... The same thing. Just like hog. He has forgotten that he has got a body of hog so that he is bound to eat stool and live in a filthy place, but because he has got the facility of sense gratification with other female hogs -- never mind whether sister, mother or daughter -- he is happy. This hog's life. The hog is satisfied. It doesn't matter. We are seeing that what is the abominable condition, in a filthy place, he is eating stool. We are conscious that what is the condition of his life, but he is very happy. "Oh," you see, "what a very nice, happy, very life. I am eating very nicely the first-class food and having sex without any restriction. This is life."<br />
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So this is called maya. Praksepatmika-sakti, covering. Avaranatmika-sakti, praksepatmika-sakti. There are two kinds of energy of material, maya. One is avaranatmi..., ignorance. One is living very condemned life; still, he's thinking, "I am very happy." Or "We are all right." So that is called avaranatmika, covered. Real knowledge is covered. And another sakti is praksepatmika. Praksepatmika means if anyone tries to get out of this... Suppose our students are coming to Krsna consciousness, somebody is coming to us, maya will dictate, "Oh, why you are coming here? There are so many restrictions and so rules and regulations. Better give it up." "Why, yes, what is this nonsense? Give it up." This is called praksepatmika. Maya is dragging. Because the more one is sinful, the more one is miscreant, the more one is the lowest of the mankind, he, maya will not allow: "Oh, why this rascal is here? He must suffer under me for more..., some times more; then he may be allowed." That is maya's business. Thankless business. Just like police. Police is nobody's enemy, but when criminal, they punish like that, put him in the jail and beats him with a rod. That is the business of maya, thankless. Nobody will thank police. When police beats, nobody will, "Thank you very much." No. Nobody is happy. Similarly, maya's business is very thankless task, but she is engaged by the supreme authority to punish.<br />
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So, so long one is not conscious that "What is the position of my life? What I am doing?" that is called knot, tied up very tightly. So here is the medicine. What is that? Yad anudhyasina yuktah. Just like if there is very hard knot, you sharp knife and you can cut it, then the knot will open, immediately. Similarly, this knot, this materialistic way of life, is very strong. Daivi hy esa gunamayi mama maya duratyaya [Bg. 7.14]. And this knot is, the beginning of the knot is sex life. Beginning of this knot. We are tied up by this sex life. The lowest is the hog. There is also the sex life.<br />
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So knot begins... Pumsah striya mithuni-bhavam etam. The world, we are bound up within this material law of nature -- why? Because we have got strong desire for sex. Not only also human society, in animal society also. The central point is sex. Yan maithunadi... These people are working so hard because they have got the aim, "I will enjoy sex life." Just like in your country, the hippies. They have given up everything, but sex is there. They cannot give it up. They have renounced everything, their father's property, their happy life, everything, but the sex is there. They cannot leave it. That is the central point of knot. "Where you shall go, sir? Here is your knot."<br />
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Therefore, this knot is very difficult to cut, but here is suggested, "If you take this sword..." What is that sword? Yad anudhyasina. Always chanting Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. Take this sword. This sword is only remedy. Yad anudhyasina yuktah. If you take this sword, then karma-granthi-nibandhanam, this hard knot of karma... Karma means fruitive activities. I am doing something now, so I am creating another body. If I am acting like a dog, then I am creating another body, dog's body, hog's body, tree's body, or even demigod's body. If you act piously, then you create demigod's body. Janmaisvarya-sruta-sri. But that is also knot; that is not freedom. Just like you are American boys and girls. You are supposed to be born of rich nation, rich father, than us Indians. We are born of poor father. So... But that does not mean that you are free from this knot. That is there. To become...<br />
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People are trying that "We shall be happy by becoming materially advanced." That is called durasa. That is hope against hope. Na te viduh svartha-gatim hi visnum [SB 7.5.31]. They do not know that destination of life is to attain Krsna consciousness. No. They do not know. They think, "By increasing motorcars, we shall be happy." This is called maya. That will not help. This motorcar civilization will be finished within another hundred years. It has begun, say, for the last hundred years, and after a hundred years, when... The scientists say the petroleum will be finished within fifty years or like that, so, say hundred years, this motorcar will be finished. So anything we manufacture, the so-called empire, so-called material civilization; it is finished, it will be finished. That is another knot only, that we become captivated. So "What is this Krsna consciousness movement? We must have three dozen motorcar and three dozen wine bottles and this..." This is their civilization.<br />
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So this is karma-bandhana. Narottama dasa Thakura sings therefore,<br />
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sat-sanga chadi' kainu asate vilasa<br />
te-karane lagila ye karma-bandha-phansa<br />
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This knot, karma-bandha-phansa. Sat-sanga, this is sat-sanga. This is sat-sanga. You are hearing Srimad-Bhagavatam in the front of Krsna and practicing how to become pure. This is called sat-sanga. And asat-sanga means this intoxication, illicit sex and drinking, so many things, asat-sanga. The advertisement, "Come on, here is cigarette, ‘Kool,' make your brain cool." (laughter) "By smoking." (laughter) Rascal. They think that "I am smoking..." How it can be cool? But they purchase Kool. This is called maya. He's smoking fire, and he's becoming cool. (laughter) And the advertisement is going on, and the rascals are captivated by these advertisement, and they smoke, become cool. Yes.<br />
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So this is called knot. In so many ways, they are tied up. So actually, if anyone is kovida... Kovida. Here it is used. What is the meaning of kovida? "Intelligent." Kovida means intelligent. So intelligent persons should see to it. Just like it is a little, little intelligent. Just like we can see when the advertisement, we can immediately understand, "What is this nonsense advertisement? He's smoking, and it is cool?" So contradiction. You'll find contradiction everywhere. Because they are not intelligent, they are thinking intelligent. But anyone who is intelligent, they can understand what is the trick.<br />
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So when actually one becomes intelligent, then the enquiry is: "Why? Why I am put into this miserable condition of life? I do not want this, and it is forced upon me. I do not want to die; death is there. I do not want disease; the disease is there. I do not want this; it is forced upon me. I don't want war, but they, the draft board drags me to the war. Why these are?" This "why" question must be there. That is intelligence. That is Kenopanisad, Kena. There is Upanisad, Kena. And Sanatana Gosvami, when he approached Caitanya Mahaprabhu, he also inquired this "Why?" Ke ami, kene amaya jare tapa-traya. "Who am I? Why I am put into this miserable condition of life?" That is intelligence. He was minister. He could understand that "I am minister. People adore me as very learned man." He said that to Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Gramya-vyavahare pandita, tai satya mani. "My dear Lord, these common people, my neighbors, because I am minister, and I'm supposed to be educated, I know little Sanskrit, I know little Arabian language, they call me pandita, learned man, very scholar and versed. I, to tell You frankly, I do not know what I am. So what is the value of my education? I do not know." Ke ami, kene amaya jare tapa-traya. "What I am."<br />
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So this is called intelligence. And cats and dogs, they are suffering; they don't mind. "Oh, I..." They forget. You have got experience. A cat is coming to eat some milk here; you chastise, you... But again it comes, again it comes. Because it is animal. And the difference between animal and man is... Suppose there is very palatable dish. So man, unless he is offered, although he is greedy, although he is hankering after that food, but he's awaiting the invitation, "Yes, you can take." But cats and dogs, without invitation, catches. That is the difference between the man and animal. Animal cannot control; man can control. Although he is hungry, he can control, out of civility: "How can I taste without invitation?" So that is the difference. Therefore, the conclusion is, man's life is meant for control. Not like animal: "I want to eat, immediately catch it." A cat and dog or a cow or a bull -- rape. As soon as there is a female, immediately rapes. So there is no punishment. But if you do that on the street, raping, immediately you will be criminal. So that is the difference. The inclination is there, both in the animal and both and in the human being. But a human being supposed to be controlled. That is human life. The more you control, you become perfect. And though, the more you become loose, you are animal. That is the difference.<br />
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So they do not know. They want freedom. In the freedom, in the name of freedom, they are becoming animals. That's all. This is the civilization. But here it is said, kovida, intelligent. Intelligent man should take up this sword to cut the knot of our attachment for this material enjoyment. What is that? Anudhyasina. Anu means always. Another anu means following. Anu means always, and anu means following. Following means spiritual master or acarya. Acaryopasanam. "How acarya, how spiritual master dealing, let me follow that." Or, anu, as soon as he becomes accustomed, then anu, anuksana, always chanting. Anudhyasina. Asina, asina means by sword. Anudhyasina yuktah, karma-bandha-nibandhana. We have to cut up this knot of karma-bandhana. By the karma-bandhana, we are transmigrating from one soul, one body to another. This is not Darwin's theory. I am the soul. I am changing, I am selecting my body, in this life. Not that by nature there is a, I mean to say, gradual evolution. Not evolution, it is already there. This living entity simply enters a particular type of body. Actually, it enters, because... Suppose I am doing something, my next life has to become a dog, that is my punishment. Then I'll have to enter into the womb of a dog mother, and she will give me the body of dog. Then I come out and enjoy like dog. This is the law. This is the law. Not that my body is turning.<br />
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So you can become dog; you can become god also. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita: yanti deva-vrata devan pitrn yanti pitr-vratah [Bg. 9.25]. So you create your body at the present moment. You have got the facility, the human form of body. Now you can make your choice, whether you are going to be dog or whether you are going to be god. Both. Mad-yajino 'pi yanti mam. "Those who are devotees engaged in My devotional service, they come to Me." And when you go to God, you must have a body like God. Just like if you want to enter into the water, then you must have a body like a fish. Otherwise you cannot enter into the water. Similarly, when you enter the spiritual world, then you have a body like God. And if you don't want, if you want to enjoy unrestricted sense, then you take the body of a hog. So nature is open to everyone. You can select your own. Not that you are forced. You can have your... Therefore it is said, kovida, one must be intelligent to select "What is my next life? How I can get out of?" That is the whole instruction of the Vedas, how we can get out of these clutches of karma-bandhana, the knot of karma, one after another.<br />
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So the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krsna, personally says that janma karma ca me divyam evam yo vetti tattvatah [Bg. 4.9]. Simply one who understands what is God, or Krsna, simply... Not that "Here is a God." No, he must... Tattvatah, he must know what is God. Just like the rascal is advertising: "No book. I am God. You accept me." Then how can I accept you God without book? But the people are so rascal, they're accepting,"Yes," and going after him. So they have become so cats and dogs that anyone says that "There is no need of understanding through book, through book of knowledge. I say. You accept me," the rascal will do that. Everything in the scientific world, there is book. In any science you take. Suppose in botany, they are mentioned, "This tree, this is the characteristic. A mango tree, the leaf is like this, the fruit is like this, the taste is like..." Chemical. Take any chemical. There is characteristics. Just like, what is called that, potassium cyanide. There is no taste, and the chemical characteristic, there is no mention of taste, because potassium cyanide is not yet tasted by anyone, because the tasting means immediate death. Potassium cyanide. So chemical, there is "The color is like this, the taste is like this, the reaction is like this."<br />
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So everything has got a test. But these rascals, without testing, accepting another rascal as God. Caitanya Mahaprabhu, when He was asked that how to accept one God, He said, "Well, there is in the sastra mention, the characteristic. According to the characteristic, if it is corroborating, then he is God." This rascal is saying, "No, there is no need of God. Ah, book. Simply I say; you accept it." The people are accepting. How foolish rascals they are. Just see. There must be a test. We are accepting Krsna as God not blindly, but by testing. By testing. His character is mentioned in the books. Therefore, we accept God, not by blind faith, but by testing. Although we cannot test, but sastra gives us the chance of testing. We accept spiritual master by testing, not by blind faith. No. According to the Vedic instruction, tad-vijnanartham.<br />
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tasmad gurum prapadyeta<br />
jijnasuh sreya uttamam<br />
sabde pare ca nisnatam<br />
brahmany upasamasrayam<br />
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These are the qualifications, symptoms of guru. Sabde pare ca nisnatam. He has got full knowledge in the transcendental science, and without book, how he has got knowledge? Or without hearing from another authority?<br />
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So... So one must be intelligent. Then he can become free from this knot, hard knot of material life, by cutting it with the weapon, yad anudhyasina. And what is that? Chindanti ko... Chindanti: cuts; kovidah, intelligent. Tasya ko na kuryat katha-ratim. Katha-ratim. One should be intelligent enough to understand or to hear katha of Krsna. Simply you have to do this. Just like you are all sitting here. It doesn't require that you have to pass M.A. examination, Ph.D. examination. God has given you the ear. Simply you sit down and hear from a realized person. The words are there, the message are there. Just like Srimad-Bhagavatam, Bhagavad-gita, especially. Everything is there to understand about God. Simply you have to increase your attachment for hearing. That is, that qualification required. Not that first of all you pass M.A. examination, then you come here and you can understand. No. Simply by hearing, hearing, hearing, you will become expert. Kovida. Simply. That... This process has been approved by Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Sthane sthitah sruti-gatam tanu-van-manobhih. You can remain in your position, but try to hear the transcendental message from realized soul. Then gradually you will be enlightened and you will be free from this knot, this material bondage.<br />
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Thank you very much. (end)<br />
Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.2.15 -- Los Angeles, August 18, 1972 "If Krishna Says All Right..." BY SRILA PRABHUPADAtag:iskcondesiretree.com,2011-03-23:2103886:Topic:4847352011-03-23T10:34:28.682Zpadmavati matajihttps://iskcondesiretree.com/profile/padmavatidasi
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Pradyumna: Translation: "O best among the twice-born, it is therefore concluded that the highest perfection one can achieve, by discharging his prescribed duties, or dharma, according to caste divisions and order of life, is to please the Lord Hari."<br />
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Prabhupada: Atah pumbhir-dvija-srestha varnasrama-vibhagasah. Varna and asrama. This varnasrama is very important thing in the…
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Pradyumna: Translation: "O best among the twice-born, it is therefore concluded that the highest perfection one can achieve, by discharging his prescribed duties, or dharma, according to caste divisions and order of life, is to please the Lord Hari."<br />
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Prabhupada: Atah pumbhir-dvija-srestha varnasrama-vibhagasah. Varna and asrama. This varnasrama is very important thing in the human society. Unless one accepts these principles of varna and asrama, they're animal society. That is not human society. Four varnas -- the brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, and sudra, four divisions of the society; and asrama, spiritual order -- brahmacari, grhastha, vanaprastha, and sannyasa. This is Vedic culture, varna and asrama. That is accepted as human society.<br />
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In the Visnu Purana also it is said,<br />
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varnasramacaravata<br />
purusena parah puman<br />
visnur aradhyate pantha<br />
nanyat tat-tosa-karanam<br />
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The whole aim of life is to achieve the favor of Visnu. Om tad visnoh paramam padam. That is the Rg-Veda mantra. To reach Visnu. But they do not know the goal of life. Na te viduh svartha-gatim hi visnum [SB 7.5.31]. They do not know. Anyone, or any society who does not know the aim of life, they are in the darkness. Actually, at the present moment especially, the whole human society has missed the point. They are trying to be happy by material adjustment. By social adjustment, by political adjustment, by economic adjustment, or by religious adjustment, they are trying to make the whole human society happy, but Bhagavata says, durasaya ye bahir-artha-maninah. This is something which is beyond the fulfillment of hopes. This hope will never be fulfilled. Durasaya. Bahir-artha-maninah. Because they have accepted the external energy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, bahir-artha.<br />
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Just like this body. Your body, my body, this is bahir-artha, external. Just like my, this wrapper. This is external. Real person is the soul. But they have no information of the soul, neither information of Visnu, the origin of soul. They are interested with the external body. That is called bahir-artha. Bahih means external. Artha means interest. Just like you have seen, our, in our Bhagavata, the picture, that one lady is taking care of the cage, and the bird within is dying. So bahir-artha-mani means this, that we are taking care of the body, external body, but not taking care of the soul within. This is the civilization of cows and asses. Sa eva go-kharah [SB 10.84.13]. Go means cows, and khara means asses. Therefore here it is said, atah pumbhir dvija-sresthah.<br />
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Dvija-sresthah. In that meeting of Naimisaranya, there were all best brahmanas, the ksatriya and the vaisyas. They are supposed to be twice-born. One birth by the father and mother, and the other birth is by the guru and Vedic knowledge. The guru is the father and Vedic knowledge is the mother. This is in Aryan civilization, this varnasrama, varna: brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra. Sudras are once-born. They have no ceremony for twice-born. Or one who is not twice-born, he's a sudra. If the twice-born ceremony is not observed, is not observed, then it is sudra. Or act..., practically at the present moment, even in India, these ceremonies are not accepted or they do not care for it. And what to speak of other countries. Therefore the conclusion of the sastra is kalau sudra-sambhavah. In this age of Kali, there are only sudras. Practically there is no brahmana, no ksatriya, no vaisyas. Maybe some vaisyas. But this is the position.<br />
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But here it is said, varnasrama-vibhagasah. Unless one, unless the society comes to the institution for accepting these four varnas and asrama, it is not human society. And in the human society there is understanding of God, not in the animal society. Therefore as the institution of varnasrama is now abolished, people are becoming godless. Because varnasrama means the institution or a set-up of society where gradually one can understand Visnu and worship Visnu. Visnur aradhyate. That is the system. Not that so-called brahmana and so-called ksatriya, they have no information of Visnu, and they are declaring, "I am brahmana," "I am ksatriya." They are called, according to sastra, brahma-bandhu, dvija-bandhu. Dvija-bandhu. One who is born of a brahmana family or a ksatriya family or vaisya family, but do not act as brahmana, ksatriya, and vaisyas, they are called dvija-bandhu. They are not accepted as dvija. Stri-sudra-dvija-bandhunam trayi na sruti-gocara.<br />
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This Mahabharata was compiled by Vyasadeva for this purpose because stri, women; sudra, the fourth class of the society, laborer class, worker class; stri, sudra; and dvija-bandhu, and persons who are born in the families of brahmana, ksatriya, but they do not act, they are called dvija-bandhu. For them, this Mahabharata was compiled. It is called "Fifth Vedas." Four Vedas: Sama, Yajur, Atharva..., Sama, Yajur, Rk, Atharva. So this Vedic language cannot be understood by the less intelligent class of men who are known as woman, sudra, and dvija-bandhu, stri-sudra-dvija-bandhunam. In the Bhagavad-gita also it is said,<br />
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mam hi partha vyapasritya<br />
ye 'pi syuh papa-yonayah<br />
striyo vaisyas tatha sudras<br />
te 'pi yanti param gatim<br />
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So when one becomes Krsna conscious, it does not matter whether he's a stri or a sudra or a dvija-bandhu. Te 'pi yanti param gatim. They also can be elevated to the highest platform of perfection.<br />
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So that is Krsna's special favor. Ordinarily, this is the formula. This formula. What is that? Dvija-sresthah, atah pumbhir dvija-sresthah. This is the ordinary formula. Atah pumbhir, pumbhir dvija-srestha varnasrama-vibhagasah. It is based on the varnasrama division. Svanusthitasya dharmasya samsiddhir hari-tosanam [SB 1.2.13]. Everyone must have perfection, but people are not interested what is the perfection of life. Neither they know what is the position of perfection. The perfection is hari-tosanam, to satisfy the Supreme Personality of Godhead. It doesn't matter what you are. If you are brahmana, by your activities, satyam samo damas titiksa, by your austerity, knowledge, you satisfy Krsna, the Sup..., Visnu, the Supreme... Krsna and Visnu, the same. Visnu-tattva..., Krsna is the origin of visnu-tattva. Aham sarvasya prabhavah. Krsna says. He is the origin of Visnu also. Sarvasya. Because in the creation, Brahma, Visnu, and Mahesvara. The origin of original demigods of this creation. Brahma is the creator, Visnu is the maintainer, and Mahesvara, or Mahadeva, or Lord Siva, is destroyer. The three deities in charge of three departmental activities. So Krsna says, aham sarvasya prabhavah. That means He's the origin of Brahma, He's the origin of Visnu, He's the origin of Lord Siva. Aham sarvasya pra..., mattah sarvam pravartate. So therefore, here it is said, hari-tosanam. If we satisfy Hari, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, He includes everything. Sarvasya prabhavah. You do not require to satisfy separately other demigods. There is no need.<br />
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The example is given: yatha taror mula-nisecanena trpyanti tat-skandha-bhujopasakhah. Just like pouring water in the root of the tree, automatically you water the branches, the twigs, the leaves, the flowers, and everything. This is the way. Pranopaharac ca yathendriyanam. You supply foods to the stomach, and automatically the energy will be distributed to other parts of the body. You do not require to supply food to the eyes, to the ear, to the nose. No. Simply supply food to the stomach and the energy will be distributed. Similarly, samsiddhir hari-tosanam [SB 1.2.13]. If you simply satisfy Hari, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, then you satisfy all others. Tasmin tusto jagat tustah. Just like you know the story, in Mahabharata, that Duryodhana planned... Duryodhana... Once Duryodhana satisfied Durvasa Muni very nicely, and Durvasa Muni wanted to give him some benediction, "Now you take some benediction, whatever you like." So Duryodhana was very cunning. His only aim was how to cheat the Pandavas. So he said, "My dear sir, I shall ask you some day. Not now." So "All right." So when the Pandavas were in the forest and Duryodhana's plan was how to tease them. So he approached Durvasa Muni, "My dear sir, you wanted to give me some benediction. I have come for it." "Yes" "Now, you go to the Pandavas with your all disciples, sixty-thousand disciples, and you go when Draupadi has taken her food." So Durvasa Muni one day... Because he wanted to give that benediction, he approached the Pandavas in the forest. And it is the duty of the ksatriya to receive the brahmanas. So they were, they were, they had finished their lunch, and Durvasa Muni came. So how they can deny? They are ksatriyas. "Yes, my lord. You can, you are welcomed. Just take your bath, and we are making arrangement..." What arrangement they will make? In the forest? So they were perplexed.<br />
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So Krsna, kaunteya pratijanihi na me bhaktah pranasyati... Krsna's vow is that He will see always His devotees are protected. So when they were perplexed, Krsna came. Krsna came that "What is the problem?" They explained, "This is the problem." Then asked Draupadi that "You have already finished..." Because Draupadi had an, a benediction that so long she does not take his (her) lunch, any number of men come, she, she will be able to feed. That was his (her)... But she had finished her lunch. then Krsna said, "Just go, find out some foodstuff, any little in the kitchen." They said, "No, everything is finished. There is no food." "No, just try to see." Then, in one pot, they saw a little sak, a vegetable, was stuck up. So they brought it and Krsna took it, immediately. So as soon as Krsna took, all the Durvasa Muni and company, they, they felt that their belly is filled up. Tasmin tusto jagat tustah. So they were feeling ashamed that "How we shall go? We cannot take any food?" So they fled away from the Ganges.<br />
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So the process is this, actually. If you can satisfy Krsna, if Krsna says, "All right," then every, everything is all right. Bas. This is Krsna consciousness movement. Somehow or other, you satisfy Krsna. Samsiddhir hari-tosanam [SB 1.2.13]. Then you have all perfection. Very simple method. You try to satisfy Krsna, and your everything satisfied. Every, everything is perfect. Krsna also says that. It is not very difficult to satisfy Krsna. Krsna is so kind, He says, patram puspam phalam toyam yo me bhaktya prayacchati. Krsna says, "You want to feed Me. That's all right. You collect little flower, patram, a little leaf... Whatever you... Not that all. Any one of them." Patram puspam phalam toyam, a little water, yo me bhaktya prayacchati. Real thing is bhakti, love, devotion. Not that Krsna is asking you, "Bring volumes of luci, puri, kacuri, halava." No. Krsna wants your love. Real thing. Bhaktya. Yo me bhaktya prayac... Krsna is not beggar, neither Krsna is hungry, that He has come to your place to eat something. That's not the position, Krsna's. Krsna wants only your love. Just like father takes the responsibility of the whole family. He works hard day and night to maintain the family. He expects only love from his wife and children. That is the impetus of economic development. Otherwise he's earning daily thousands and lakhs of rupees. It is not that he will eat. He will eat that four capatis. That's all. Worth six annas. But he works so hard just to be satisfied that his wife, his children love. When he comes at home, he sees them very satisfied.<br />
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Similarly, Krsna has expanded this family. Ekam bahu syam. He has become so many living entities. What is the idea? Anandamayo 'bhyasat. Because He's anandamaya, He wants to enjoy the love exchange between the living entities. That is His purpose. Otherwise, why He has created? He wants love. But these rascals, they have forgotten that thing. They are saying, "There is no God. I am God. I am enjoyer." Instead of loving God, they are becoming "God." This has killed the whole situation. Therefore Krsna comes, and He wanted to reestablish that reciprocal exchange of love which is called bhakti. You love Krsna, and Krsna loves you. Krsna loves you, even without your love. Otherwise, how you are eating? You, why, you cannot live even for a moment without Krsna's mercy. That's a fact. Eko bahunam yo vidadhati kaman. So Krsna comes.<br />
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Krsna, when He says, dharma-samsthapanarthaya sambhavami yuge yuge, this is real dharma. Dharma means dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam [SB 6.3.19]. Dharma means the what is enjoined by the Lord, God. What God says, that is dharma. God says, "Do this." That is dharma. Not that you manufacture your dharma. God says, Krsna says, man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru [Bg. 18.65]. Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam... [Bg. 18.66]. This is dharma. Anything beyond this, all nonsense. They are not dharmas. Dharmah kaitavah. Cheating, simply cheating. Therefore Bhagavata says, dharmah projjhitah atra kaitavah: "All rascaldom dharma is thrown away, kicked out." This is dharma. Dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam [SB 6.3.19]. This is dharma.<br />
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Therefore here it is same thing is confirmed. Svanusthitasya dharmasya samsiddhir hari-tosanam [SB 1.2.13]. You are religious. That's all right. But the purpose of religion is to satisfy the Supreme Lord. That is perfection. It doesn't matter. Because it is said, varnasrama-vibhagasah. A brahmana, brahmana-varna, he can satisfy Krsna by his tapasya, by his truthfulness, by his knowledge of the sastras. He can preach the knowledge of the sastra to the world. He can eat on behalf of God. Therefore according to Vedic civilization, there is brahmana-bhojana. Brahmana-bhojana means whatever a brahmana eats, it means God is, Krsna eats through the brahmana. Therefore brah..., brahmana... In Vedic civilization there is no daridra-bhojana. There is no such word. Now they, they have manufactured: refugee-bhojana, daridra-bhojana. But the, the real is brahmana-vaisnava-bhojana. Because through the mouth of the brahmana and Vaisnavas, those who are real brahmana... So this is the samsiddhir hari-tosanam [SB 1.2.13]. You may remain a brahmana. That's all right.<br />
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Just like Arjuna. Arjuna was a ksatriya. He was not a brahmana; he was ksatriya. He was not a sannyasi; he was a grhastha, king. His business, he knew how to kill. So by killing he satisfied Krsna. Samsiddhir hari-tosanam [SB 1.2.13]. This is the whole purpose of Bhagavad-gita. He was unwilling to kill, and Krsna was inducing him, "You must kill." And when he agreed to kill, then Krsna became satisfied. He became perfect. These are the evidence. The purpose is to satisfy Krsna. When he was denying to fight, that was his own satisfaction. "I shall not kill my grandfather, my nephews, my brother on the other side. If they die, I shall be unhappy. So what is the use of killing them?" These are all sense gratification, so-called nonviolence. A devotee does not know what is violence and non-violence. He wants to satisfy Krsna. That's all. They do not know what is morality or immorality. They want to satisfy Krsna. Just like the gopis. At dead of night, they went to Krsna. This is immorality. But they did not know what is morality or immorality. They must go to Krsna. Samsiddhir hari-tosanam [SB 1.2.13].<br />
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So anyone, in whatever position he may be, it does not matter. Everyone should try to satisfy Krsna. Mad-yaji mam namaskuru. Man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru [Bg. 18.65]. This is perfection of life. Always think of Krsna, man-manah. "Always become My devotee," mad-bhakta. "Always worship Me," mad-yaji. "Always offer your obeisances unto Me," mam namaskuru. "But I have got other religion, Sir. Why shall I think of You only? I have to think of Goddess Kali. Otherwise I cannot eat meat." Therefore Krsna says, sarva-dharman paritya... "It is all nonsense. Give up all this nonsense." Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam [Bg. 18.66]. "Simply unto Me." Ekam. "Don't bother with other demigods. They are My servants. You are not to satisfy My servants." Of course, those who are real servants, that is different.<br />
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So this is the real dharma, samsiddhir hari-tosanam [SB 1.2.13]. If you, someway or other, can satisfy Krsna... Just like Arjuna, by killing, he sat... Killing art is not very good art. But because by killing he satisfied Krsna, Krsna gave him certificate, bhakto 'si priyo 'si me, "Oh, you are My very dear friend." Because Krsna's purpose was to kill the demons. Paritranaya sadhunam vinasaya ca duskrtam [Bg. 4.8]. So Arjuna helped to kill the demons and fulfill the desire of Krsna. And therefore he became perfect by killing. So if you do anything which is sanctioned by Krsna, or by His bona fide representative, that is real dharma. Samsiddhir hari-tosanam [SB 1.2.13].<br />
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Thank you very much. Hare Krsna. (end)<br />
Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.2.13 -- Vrndavana, October 24, 1972 "Qualifying To Dance With Krsna" BY SRILA PRABHUPADAtag:iskcondesiretree.com,2011-03-23:2103886:Topic:4848342011-03-23T10:31:45.183Zpadmavati matajihttps://iskcondesiretree.com/profile/padmavatidasi
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Prabhupada:<br />
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tac chraddadhana munayo<br />
jnana-vairagya-yuktaya<br />
pasyanty atmani catmanam<br />
bhaktya sruta-grhitaya<br />
[SB 1.2.12]<br />
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We have been discussing the instruction of Suta Gosvami, what is the purpose of life. Jivasya tattva-jijnasa. The only business of the human being is to inquire about the Absolute Truth, tattva-jijnasa. And that tattva has been explained in the previous…
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Prabhupada:<br />
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tac chraddadhana munayo<br />
jnana-vairagya-yuktaya<br />
pasyanty atmani catmanam<br />
bhaktya sruta-grhitaya<br />
[SB 1.2.12]<br />
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We have been discussing the instruction of Suta Gosvami, what is the purpose of life. Jivasya tattva-jijnasa. The only business of the human being is to inquire about the Absolute Truth, tattva-jijnasa. And that tattva has been explained in the previous verse:<br />
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vadanti tat tattva-vidas<br />
tattvam yaj jnanam advayam<br />
brahmeti paramatmeti<br />
bhagavan iti sabdyate<br />
[SB 1.2.11]<br />
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So the Absolute Truth is one. There is no doubt about it. But according to our angle of vision, we appreciate the Absolute Truth in different ways, although the Absolute Truth is one. Somebody is realizing the Absolute Truth as impersonal Brahman, and somebody is realizing the Absolute Truth as localized Paramatma, Supersoul, and somebody is realizing the Absolute Truth as the Supreme Personality of Godhead. That is the last word, Supreme Personality of Godhead, in the matter of understanding the Absolute Truth.<br />
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So our Gosvami Bhavananda has explained about the Absolute Truth, Krsna. Krsnas tu bhagavan svayam. Bhagavan iti. But who is Bhagavan? That has been also explained. Bhagavan means sad-aisvarya-purna, complete in six opulences. He is Bhagavan. Bhaga means opulence. Just like we say bhagyavan. This bhagyavan word comes from bhaga. Bhaga bhavarthe sri-karna(?), bhagya. And van is vatup, asty arthe vatup(?). If somebody possesses something, this affix vat or mat is used. So bhagavan means one who has opulences. So Bhagavan, Krsna, when He was present on this planet, nobody could excel His opulences. That's a fact. Everyone knows. People want to enjoy. That is natural tendency, the association of woman. Here also we see that very, very rich men, they want to associate with nice, beautiful woman. In the Western countries I have seen. In Paris there are many clubs. So the club business is to go and enjoy the association of nice beautiful woman. So everyone knows it. So tendency is there. That is also richness. So that richness I have already explained. Here in the material world the same thing is represented pervertedly, not in actual position. Therefore we are frustrated.<br />
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So there are two kinds of philosophers. The mental speculators, empiric philosophers, they therefore reject that this should be zero. Here the association of woman is so abominable that it should be rejected. But they have no information that this association of woman and man is so, I mean to say, opulent in the spiritual world. Otherwise how Krsna is associating with the gopis? Gopi-bhava-rasamrtabdhi-lahari. Gosvamis, the six Gosvamis, about their life, they are described by Srinivasa Acarya, tyaktva turnam asesa-mandala-pati-srenim sada tuccha-vat. Rupa Gosvami, Sanatana Gosvami were ministers in the government of Nawab Hussein Shah, most opulent. So naturally the minister must have association with big, big zamindars, lords, aristocratic family. But about them it is said, when they joined Caitanya Mahaprabhu's movement, resigning from their ministership, so that is described by Srinivasa Acarya, tyaktva turnam asesa-mandala-pati-srenim. Mandala-pati means big, big zamindars, aristocrats. So tyaktva, gave up their association. Just like we flatter here. If we can mix with a very big rich man, we consider very fortunate. But these Gosvamis, they gave up, tyaktva turnam asesa, not only one, two. Because they were ministers, everyone is coming to flatter him, all big, big zamindars. But he gave up that association. Tyaktva turnam asesa-mandala-pati-srenim sada tuccha-vat. Tuccha means very insignificant. Then what they became? Bhutva dina-ganesakau karunaya kaupina-kanthasritau. Dina-ganesakau, just to show favor to the poor souls, dina-ganesakau. Gana. Gana means people in general. So just to show them favor, accepted the life of a mendicant. Tyaktva turnam asesa-mandala-pati-srenim sada tuccha-vat bhutva dina-ganesakau karunaya kaupina-kanthasritau. Kaupina-kantha. That is the last stage of sannyasa, paramahamsa stage: a loin cloth and an underwear, kaupina-kanthasritau.<br />
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But we have got practical experience that if somebody from very exalted post becomes a renouncer, he cannot tolerate that. We have seen it. In Calcutta there was a big man. You have heard. Mr. C. R. Das, Gandhi's lieutenant, he gave up his practice. In those days he was..., fifty years ago he was earning fifty thousand rupees. So that is not joke. So he became mendicant. All Gandhi's followers, they became mendicant. Without becoming mendicant, you cannot do any welfare activities. That is the Vedic process, sannyasa. So but he could not live. After giving up his job as a lawyer, he could not live for more than one year, because he was living very opulently and all of a sudden he became a mendicant. He could not tolerate. That we have seen. But here we see that the Gosvamis, they were also very big men, ministers, but how they lived? Tyaktva turnam asesa-mandala-pati-srenim sada tuccha-vat bhutva dina-ganesakau karunaya kaupina-kanthasritau, gopi-bhava-rasamrtabdhi-lahari. Gopi-bhava. They were living simply by thinking of the ecstatic love of gopis. Gopi-bhavamrta. That is compared with an ocean. As the ocean is beautiful, constant flowing of waves, similarly, the ocean of bliss of the gopis relationship with Krsna, these Gosvamis were always absorbed in that. Gopi-bhava-rasamrtabdhi-lahari-kallola-magnau muhur vande rupa-sanatanau raghu-yugau sri-jiva-gopalakau. So Krsna's opulence, Krsna's dealings with the gopis, they are not ordinary things.<br />
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ananda-cinmaya-rasa-pratibhavitabhis<br />
tabhir ya eva nija-rupataya kalabhih<br />
goloka eva nivasaty akhilatma-bhuto<br />
govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami<br />
[Bs. 5.37]<br />
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He got His pleasure potency. Anandamayo 'bhyasat. The Supreme Absolute Truth is the reservoir of all pleasure. Anandamayo 'bhyasat.<br />
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So Brahman realization, Paramatma realization and Bhagavan realization. If you realize Bhagavan, then you realize Brahman and Paramatma. Just like if you have got one lakh of rupees, ten rupees or fifty rupees are already there within, similarly, if you understand Krsna, Bhagavan, then you understand automatically what is Brahman and what is Paramatma. But if you simply stick to Brahman realization or Paramatma realization... The jnanis, they are interested in Brahman realization, and the yogis, they are interested in... [break] ...realization cannot be continued if you do not realize the other two things, namely Paramatma and Bhagavan. Cit and ananda. Simply realization of sat, om tat sat, will not satisfy you because you are part and parcel of the sac-cid-ananda-vigraha. Isvarah paramah krsnah sac-cid-ananda-vigrahah [Bs. 5.1]. Vigraha means form. So you are also form. Because you are part and parcel of the form, therefore you have got a form. The form may be different in the material world. Krsna therefore claims all forms. Sarva-yonisu kaunteya sambhavanti murtayo yah [Bg. 14.4]. Sarva-yonisu. There are different, 8,400,000 forms of living entities, and Krsna claims, sarva-yonisu kaunteya sambhavanti murtayo yah, "As many forms are there," tasam mahad yonir brahma aham bija-pradah pita, Krsna says, "I am the seed-giving father."<br />
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So Krsna is father for all living entities. They are simply struggling here in this material world under different desires, and therefore they are getting transmigrating from one body to another, and in this way they are wandering within this material world. That is their real disadvantageous position. Therefore Krsna says the real problem is janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha-dosanudarsanam. This is the real problem. Whole spiritual process should be executed to get out of this entanglement of repetition of birth, death, old age and disease. That is real problem. So Krsna therefore comes, that "Why you are rotting in this material world?" Manah sasthani indriyani prakrti-sthani karsati. "Why you are struggling so hard?" For ananda. Everyone is struggling for ananda, but he does not know whether ananda is there. Anandamayo 'bhyasat. Krsna, the Supreme Absolute Truth, He is the reservoir of ananda Therefore you will see Krsna's picture always in ananda. Wherever you see Krsna... Krsna is in the battlefield, still, He is smiling, ananda. He is not morose. Arjuna is morose. But He is not morose. Because he is anandamayo 'bhyasat.<br />
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So everything is there. The pleasure which we are hunting here within this material world, everything is there, full, full ananda. You can enter into the anandamaya-lila. That He practically demonstrates in Vrndavana. He is playing with His cowherd boyfriends, He is dancing with the gopis, He is playing as a child to His father and mother Yasoda. He has got conjugal love with Radharani. Everything is there. Therefore here it is said, tac chraddadhana munayo jnana-vairagya-yuktaya, pasyanti [SB 1.2.12]. You can see all this anandamaya-lila, atmani, within yourself. How? Tac chradda, chraddadhanah. Sraddha. This sraddha means... I have already explained many times. It is explained in the Caitanya-caritamrta, sraddha-sabde visvasa kahe sudrdha niscaya. This is called sraddha, when you firmly believe. Sraddha-sabde visvasa kahe sudrdha. Without any shaking. Not shaking platform. Firmly. What is that? Krsne bhakti kaile sarva-karma krta haya. If you become a devotee of Krsna, then all perfection is there. This is called sraddha. Because Krsna says at the last stage of His instruction in the Bhagavad-gita, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. Saranam vraja: "Voluntarily you surrender unto Me. Then I take charge of you." Aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami ma sucah. "There is no question of considering. Do it immediately." That Krsna says.<br />
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So if one accepts this principle, then that is called sraddha. Here it is said... Because after Bhagavad-gita, Bhagavata was written... So one who accepts Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead by understanding Bhagavad-gita as it is, not by malinterpretations, as it is, then that is called sraddha. Sraddadhana munayah. As soon as you become a surrendered soul, then you become one of the munis, great-minded, wide-minded, muni, mahatma. Munayah. And why kind of sraddha? Now, jnana-vairagya-yuktaya. Two things must be there -- jnana and vairagya. I have already explained that actually our aim of life, human life, is to acquire knowledge and vairagya. Simply talking of knowledge is useless. There must be vairagya also. Therefore Sripada Sankaracarya, he never liked simply talking. "First of all become a sannyasi." That was his propaganda. "Then you talk." So jnana-vairagya. One who is actually jnani, he must be vairagi. Vairagi means vigata-raga. We are not ragi. Raga means attachment. We are materially attached, and when you become actually jnani, then you should be materially detached. That is called jnana-vairagya-yuktaya. Tac chraddadhana munayo jnana-vairagya-yuktaya, pasyanty atmani catmanam [SB 1.2.12]. Atmani, within his mind and within his self, he sees the Paramatma. Dhyanavasthita-tad-gatena manasa pasyanti yam yoginah [SB 12.13.1]. Perfect yogi always sees the Supreme Personality of Godhead within himself.<br />
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Premanjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena santah sadaiva hrdayesu vilokayanti, yam syamasundaram [Bs. 5.38]. The question was, "Why Krsna is black?" But that black is described in the Brahma-samhita, syamasundara. Here one who is black, nobody likes to see, naturally. But Krsna is black, at the same time the most exquisitely beautiful. That we cannot adjust. In another place it is said, asitambuda-sundarangam. Asitambuda-sundarangam. Asitambuda-sundarangam. His body is just like black cloud. Kandarpa-koti-kamaniya. Kandarpa-koti-kamaniya. We understand Kandarpa, the Cupid, as very beautiful, but if you millions of Kandarpas act together to increase the beauty, that is also not comparable with Krsna's beauty. So these contradictory terms cannot be understood unless one has got the ointment of love of Godhead. Premanjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena. Anjana. Anjana we understand, a kind of ointment. Premanjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena santah sadaiva hrdayesu vilokayanti [Bs. 5.38]. So the first beginning is sraddha, tac chraddadhana munayah. Adau sraddha. If you have got this faith... This is the...Bhagavad-gita is just to create the preliminary faith to understand God. That is the only... That is Bhagavad-gita.<br />
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Because we do not know. We cannot understand God with these blunt senses. Atah sri-krsna-namadi na bhaved grahyam indriyaih [BRS. 1.2.234]. The present senses, they are simply after material gratification. So how they can understand Krsna? That is not possible. Therefore it is said, jnana-vairagya-yuktaya. You can understand after jnana. Jnana means brahma-bhuta, one who understands aham brahmasmi: "I am not this material body; I am spirit soul." So brahma-bhutah prasannatma [Bg. 18.54]. Now we are designated by this bodily relationship: "I am American," "I am Indian," "I am brahmana," "I am ksatriya," "I am black," "I am white," "I am strong," "I am weak," "I am fatty," "I am thin," so many. These are all designation. So one has to become free from the designation. That is jnana. Sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam [Cc. Madhya 19.170]. Upadhi. This upadhi. The bodily conception of life is called upadhi.<br />
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So sarva upadhi, when you become completely freed, no more thinking like American, Indian, brahmana, sudra, no... "I am eternal servant of Krsna." Gopi-bhartuh pada-kamalayor dasa-dasanudasah. Caitanya Mahaprabhu gave His identification in this way: "I am not a brahmana, I am not a sudra, neither I am a king, neither I am a vaisya, neither I am a sannyasi. I am nothing of this." Because this material designation, varna-asrama. Four varnas, brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, and four asramas, brahmacari, grhastha, vanaprastha and sannyasa. So anybody must be within these eight categories. Caitanya Mahaprabhu says that "I don't belong to any of these categories." Naham vipro na ca nara-patir na ca yatir va. Then what you are? Gopi-bhartuh pada-kamalayor dasa-dasanudasah. "Gopi-bhartuh, the maintainer of the gopis, gopi-bhartuh, and the master of the gopis, Krsna, pada-kamalayoh, lotus feet -- I am His servant, dasa, and his servant, his servant, his servant, his servant, his servant, his servant, in this way servants' servant." The more you become servants of servant, then you are liberated. Here this material world they want master. He is master: "I am his master, I am his master, I am his master." They are trying to become master. It is just the opposite -- to become servant. This is Vaisnava philosophy, how to become the servant of the servant of the servant of the servant, oh, hundred times servant. Because this philosophy is understood by becoming a servant, not by becoming a master. That you will not. That is called jnana-vairagya-yuktaya. Because so long wants to become a master, he is still in ajnana because he cannot be master. How he can be master? Real master is Krsna. Bhoktaram yajna-tapasam sarva-loka-mahesvaram [Bg. 5.29]. How you can be master? Can you become more than Krsna? He is sarva-loka-mahesvaram.<br />
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So this is jnana, as Caitanya Mahaprabhu enunciates, not to become master or God, to become servant of the God. Not only servant, but servant, servant, servant, servant, hundred times downward. Then you become perfect. That is the demand of Krsna, that you first of all become servant. Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam [Bg. 18.66]. Because that is your real position. Caitanya Mahaprabhu confirms it. Jivera svarupa haya nitya-krsna-dasa [Cc. Madhya 20.108-109]. This is our position. This is jnana. Anyone who is claiming other that this is not in knowledge. He is ajnana. That is also confirmed in the Bhagavad-gita -- I have several times repeated -- bahunam janmanam ante [Bg. 7.19]. After many, many births trying to become the master, when actually he becomes jnanavan, then jnanavan mam prapadyate. This is the sign, when he surrender to Krsna. That is real knowledge. That knowledge is not sentiment. Because bahunam janmanam ante [Bg. 7.19]. After experiencing many, many births that "I am the master, I am God, I am this, I am that," so when he actually jnanavan, mam prapadyate, vasudevah sarvam iti.. [Bg. 7.19]. When he understands, "Oh, Vasudeva, Krsna, is the origin or everything," that is real jnana. That is real jnana.<br />
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Therefore it has said, jnana-vairagya-yuktaya. Then you have to become vairagi to your puffed up consciousness that "I am master, I am God, I am this, I am that." No. That is called jnana and vairagya. Jnana-vairagya-yuktaya. And again it is confirmed, bhaktya. As soon as the bhakti word is used, there is no question of becoming master. Bhakti is used via media between Bhagavan and bhakta. The dealings of Bhagavan and bhakta is called bhakti. Bhakti, bhaja-dhatu. Bhaja-dhatu sevayam. Sevayam. Seva mean there is a sevaka and there is a master, sevya, one who is worshiped and one who serves. Then the process is called bhakti. Here it is also said, bhaktya. What kind of bhakti? Bhaktya sruta-grhitaya. Sruta, by hearing sruti, or Vedas. Completely on the basis of Vedic knowledge, that bhakti, not sentimental. Sentimental bhakti is also there, because the acceptance of Krsna is there. Therefore there is some value. But real bhakti, Sri Jiva Gosvami has commented that bhakti based on understanding of Vedanta-sutra is perfect, on the basis of jnana, knowledge, and vairagya. That is... And Krsna has also said, brahma-sutra-padais caiva hetumadbhir viniscitaih [Bg. 13.5]. Brahma-sutra means Vedanta-sutra.<br />
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So actually the Vedanta-sutra, everything is bhakti. But unfortunately, people have taken Vedanta in a different way, after the Sariraka-bhasya. But all the acaryas, Ramanujacarya, Madhvacarya, they have all, they have commentated on the Vedanta-sutra. So Vedantist does not mean simply the Mayavadis. Actually Vedantists are the devotees. Because veda anta. Veda means knowledge, and anta means the last word. The last word is bhagavan. That is Vedanta. Here it is said, brahmeti paramatmeti bhagavan iti sabdyate. If you understand by studying Vedanta simply Brahman realization, that is not perfect. If you understand Paramatma realization by studying Vedanta, that is also not perfect. When you come to understand Bhagavan, that is perfect. That is confirmed in the Bhagavad-gita: vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyah [Bg. 15.15]. By studying Vedanta or all Vedic literatures, if you do not understand Krsna, then srama eva hi kevalam.<br />
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vasudeve bhagavati<br />
bhakti-yogah prayojitah<br />
janayaty asu vairagyam<br />
jnanam ca yad ahaitukam<br />
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These things are required, jnana and vairagya. That is very easily achieved. Vasudeve bhagavati bhakti-yogah prayojitah. If bhakti-yoga is adopted unto the Supreme Personality of God, Vasudeva, then very soon janayaty asu... Asu means very soon. Jnana-va iragyam ahaitukam.<br />
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The example you can see. These European and American boys and girls, how they have become vairagi? They have got immense opportunity for material enjoyment. Material enjoyment means money and woman. That is the standard of material enjoyment. So these boys, these girls, they have got enough. The money is thrown on the street. And woman is loitering on the street. You can pick up as many as you like. You see. That is the Western countries. But they have left everything. That is vairagya Why? Jnanam. They have obtained the real knowledge. Krsnas tu bhagavan svayam. As Bhavananda Maharaja said. They are firmly fixed up. Krsnas tu bhagavan svayam, "Let us sacrifice our life for Krsna." That is real jnana and vairagya. Bhaktya. This is to be understood, bhaktya. Because without bhakti, there is no admission in the kingdom of God. That is not possible. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita:<br />
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bhaktya mam abhijanati<br />
yavan yas casmi tattvatah<br />
tato mam tattvato jnatva<br />
visate tad-anantaram<br />
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Visate means enter. One is admitted in the spiritual world... Paras tasmat tu bhavah anyah. There is spiritual world. There is another world. Paras tasmat tu bhavo 'nyo 'vyakto 'vyaktat sanatanah [Bg. 8.20]. That sanatana-dhama you cannot enter without being a bhakta. Bhaktya mam abhijanati [Bg. 18.55]. Those who enter that spiritual world, Brahman, nirvisesa-brahman, because they are lacking in bhakti, they again falls down.<br />
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That is stated in the Bhagavata. Aruhya krcchrena param padam tatah patanty adhah anadrta-yusmad-anghrayah. Ye 'nye 'ravindaksa vimukta-maninas tvayy asta-bhavad avisuddha-buddhayah [SB 10.2.32]. There are certain persons, they are thinking, "Now I have become liberated." Ye 'nye 'ravindaksa vimukta-maninah. Vimukta-maninah means "thinking that they have become liberated." But avisuddha-buddhayah, their intelligence is not yet clear. So what is the result? Suppose one realizes Brahman realization. He is not mukta? Yes, he is mukta. That's all right. But the intelligence is not yet purified. Why? Aruhya krcchrena param padam tatah [SB 10.2.32]. After undergoing sever austerities and penances, they rise up to the Brahmaloka, param padam. Patanty adhah, again falls down, again falls down. Why? Anadrta-yusmad-anghrayah. Just like the impersonal sky. You can go in the sky with your seedy airplane, but if you don't get a shelter in any planet, you will have to come again. Just like this moon planet–goers, going and coming. Why don't they stay there? So it doubtful whether they are going.<br />
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So anyway, this is the position of the nirvisesa-vada. Because they do not enter in one of the Vaikuntha planets... Because they are not bhaktas, they are not admitted. Without being bhakta, nobody is allowed to enter into the Vaikuntha planets. Just like here in the sky there are millions and millions of planets, similarly, in the brahmajyoti there are also millions and millions of planets. They are called Vaikunthaloka. But in those Vaikunthalokas only bhaktas are admitted, not the nondevotees. They can go to the Brahmaloka. Brahmaloka is combination of the spirit souls. But spirit soul means part and parcel of the Supreme Lord, who is anandamaya. So they do not get that ananda. They simply are elevated to the position of eternity. But eternity without ananda. Just like you just imagine: suppose you are given a very nice place. You are ordered that "You live here eternally, but don't allow nobody else. You can live alone." How long you will live? Because as a living entity, as part and parcel of Krsna, you want ananda. So ananda, you require society, friendship and love. That is ananda. That is not impersonalism. That is personalism. So unless you enter to the personal activities of Krsna, there cannot be ananda. There cannot be. Unless you are qualified to dance with Krsna or to play with Krsna, to become father of Krsna, mother of Krsna, and enjoy the anandamayam, ananda-cinmaya-rasa-pratibhavitabhih, you cannot be happy. Therefore aruhya krcchrena. The brahma-pada, the Supreme, param padam, it is called param padam... Aruhya krcchrena param padam tatah patanty adhah [SB 10.2.32]. Adhah. They fall down. Therefore we see sometimes, big, big sannyasis, brahma satyam jagan mithya, they give up this world, take sannyasa, but after some time they come to politics, to sociology. Why? If the jagat is mithya, why you are interested in politics and sociology an welfare acts? That means anadrta-yusmad-anghrayah: He could not get ananda without being in touch with the lotus feet of Krsna. Therefore they come this ananda. Ananda. Aruhya krcchrena. This is practical.<br />
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So simply Brahman realization is not perfect. Simply Paramatma realization is also not perfect. When you realize Bhagavan, then you realize Brahman, Paramatma, and Bhagavan simultaneously. That is ananda. That is ananda. That is available as it is. Pasyanty atmani catmanam bhaktya sruta-grhitaya. Sruta-grhitaya, hearing. Therefore Rupa Gosvami says,<br />
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sruti-smrti-puranadi-<br />
pancaratra-vidhim vina<br />
aikantiki harer bhaktir<br />
utpatayaiva kalpate<br />
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One who does not understand the bhakti philosophy through sruti, through Veda, smrti... Just like Bhagavad-gita is smrti. Sruti-smrti-puranadi [BRS 1.2.101], and Narada-pancaratra. Without reference to these books of knowledge, if one becomes a so-called devotee, that is not accepted by Rupa Gosvami. Here also it is said, bhaktya sruta-grhitaya. Sruta-grhitaya, knowledge, full knowledge, through Vedas, bhaktya, with devotion. Dry Vedic knowledge makes you impersonalist, only a partial realization. Therefore bhakti must be there. Bhakti means without any result or karma and jnana. Anyabhilasita-sunyam jnana-karmady-anavrtam [BRS 1.1.11]. People are interested with dharma, artha, kama, moksa. But Bhagavata says that above that, dharmah projjhita-kaitavo 'tra [SB 1.1.2]. Here in the Srimad-Bhagavatam... Dharma, artha, kama, moksa, they are cheating, because they are not giving directly the devotional service to the Lord. Dharma, artha, kama, moksa. Therefore Vyasadeva says, dharmartha-kama-moksa, dharmah projjhita-kaitavo 'tra paramo nirmatsaranam vastavam vastu vedyam atra [SB 1.1.2].<br />
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So if we want to understand the real reality, vastava-vastu, that is Krsna, then this is the process. What is that?<br />
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tac chraddadhana munayo<br />
jnana-vairagya-yuktaya<br />
pasyanty atmani catmanam<br />
bhaktya sruta-grhitaya<br />
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You have to receive through the channel of parampara system, bhakti. Evam parampara-praptam imam rajarsayo viduh [Bg. 4.2]. Parampara. Adau gurvasrayam. Therefore we have to accept a guru who is coming in the parampara. Just like Arjuna. Arjuna is parampara. Because the parampara was lost, Krsna again said Bhagavad-gita to Arjuna. So as Arjuna understood, if you understand Bhagavad-gita as Arjuna understood, if you understand Krsna, then your understanding of Krsna is perfect. And if you invent some imaginary meaning, then you are srama eva hi kevalam, waste of time. So don't do that. Try to understand Krsna as He is, as He speaks Himself about Himself, that "I am like this." What is the difficulty? If Krsna says, if God says, "I am like this," why you are manufacturing ways and means to understand God, uselessly wasting time? God is giving His name, God is giving His address, God is giving His activities. Everything is there. Why don't you understand God? Why you are researching? This is called srama eva hi...<br />
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dharmah svanusthitah pumsam<br />
visvaksena-kathasu yah<br />
notpadayed yadi ratim<br />
srama eva hi kevalam<br />
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So don't waste time in searching out what is God. God is canvassing you, "I am God, here." Bhaktya sa... Man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru [Bg. 18.65].<br />
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So this Krsna consciousness movement is not a manufactured way. It is simply the standard. Krsna says, man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru [Bg. 18.65]. We are preaching this philosophy. It is not difficult. Anyone can do it. Anyone can do it. It is not that I am playing something wonderful. What Wonderful? They talk about this, that I have done something wonderful. I do not know any wonderful thing. I only know to present Krsna as He is. That's all. This is the secret. So anyone can understand Krsna as He is from Bhagavad-gita or from Srimad-Bhagavatam. Why do they search out? Why they should invent some means? This is useless waste of time.<br />
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Thank you very much. Hare Krsna. (end)<br />
Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.2.12 -- Delhi, November 18, 1973 "Become Very Eager To See Krsna" BY SRILA PRABHUPADAtag:iskcondesiretree.com,2011-03-23:2103886:Topic:4847322011-03-23T10:29:04.036Zpadmavati matajihttps://iskcondesiretree.com/profile/padmavatidasi
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Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)<br />
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tac chraddadhana munayo<br />
jnana-vairagya-yuktaya<br />
pasyanty atmani catmanam<br />
bhaktya sruta-grhitaya<br />
[SB 1.2.12]<br />
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"The seriously inquisitive student or sage, well equipped with knowledge and detachment, realizes that Absolute Truth by rendering devotional service in terms of what he has heard from the Vedanta-sruti."<br />
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Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)<br />
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tac chraddadhana munayo<br />
jnana-vairagya-yuktaya<br />
pasyanty atmani catmanam<br />
bhaktya sruta-grhitaya<br />
[SB 1.2.12]<br />
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"The seriously inquisitive student or sage, well equipped with knowledge and detachment, realizes that Absolute Truth by rendering devotional service in terms of what he has heard from the Vedanta-sruti."<br />
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Prabhupada: (interrupts and corrects one devotee's chanting of the verse:) We are repeating so that by hearing the sound, you can practice. You should be attentive. By... (chanting resumes)<br />
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Very good, thank you. Yes. She has done better than all of you. All right. (chanting resumes) (Prabhupada interrupts again:) Yes. That's all.<br />
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So people, they sometimes say, "Can you show me God? Have you seen God?" These questions sometimes we meet. So the answer is here. Yes, you can see God. Everyone can see God. I am also seeing God. But there must be the qualification. Just like God is there... Suppose a motorcar is there, something is wrong there. Everyone is seeing. But one engineer or mechanic, he sees differently. Therefore we have to go there. "What is the wrong in this car? It is not running." He immediately touches some machine part; it runs. So these rascals, they do not know that "How I can see God if I have not the qualification?" The machine has gone wrong, I am seeing the machine. And the engineer, the mechanic, he is also seeing the machine. But his seeing and my seeing is different. He's qualified to see. Therefore when the machine has gone wrong, immediately he touches some part, it runs. So if for a machine we require so much qualification, and we want to see God without any qualification? Just see the fun. Without any qualification. Rascal, they are so rascal, so fool, that they want to see God with their nuisance qualification.<br />
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Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita: naham prakasah sarvasya yoga-maya-samavrtah: [Bg. 7.25] "I am not exposed to everyone. Yogamaya, yogamaya is covering." So how you can see God? But this rascaldom is going on, that "Can you show me God? Have you seen God?" God has become just like a plaything. "Here is God. He is incarnation of God." Na mam duskrtino mudhah prapadyante naradhamah [Bg. 7.15]. They are sinful, rascals, fools, lowest of the mankind. They inquire like that: "Can you show me God?" What qualification you have acquired, that you can see God? Here is the qualification. What is that? Tac chraddadhana munayah. One must be first of all faithful. Faithful. Sraddadhanah. He must be very much eager to see God, actually. Not that as a proclivity, frivolous thing, "Can you show me God?" A magic, just like God is a magic. No. He must be very serious: "Yes, if there is God... We have seen, we have been informed about God. So I must see."<br />
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There is a story in this connection. It is very instructive; try to hear. One professional reciter was reciting about Bhagavata, and he was describing that Krsna, being very highly decorated with all jewels, He is sent for tending the cows in the forest. So there was a thief in that meeting. So he thought that "Why not then go to Vrndavana and plunder this boy? He is in the forest with so many valuable jewels. I can go there and catch the child and take the, all the jewels." That was his intention. So, he was serious that "I must find out that boy. Then in one night I shall become millionaire. So much jewelries. No." So he went there, but his qualification was that "I must see Krsna, I must see Krsna." That anxiety, that eagerness, made it possible that in Vrndavana he saw Krsna. He saw Krsna the same way as he was informed by the Bhagavata reader. Then he saw, "Oh, oh, you are so nice boy, Krsna." So he began to flatter. He thought that "Flattering, I shall take all the jewels" (laughter). So when he proposed his real business, "So may I take some of your these ornaments? You are so rich." "No, no, no. You... My mother will be angry. I cannot..." (laughter) Krsna as a child. So he became more and more eager for Krsna. And then... By Krsna's association, he had already become purified. Then, at last, Krsna said, "All right, you can take." Then he became a devotee, immediately. Because by Krsna's association...<br />
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So some way or other, we should come in contact with Krsna. Some way or other. Then we'll be purified. Kamad bhayad dvesyat. Just like the gopis... The gopis came to Krsna being captivated by His beautiful features. They were young girls, and Krsna was so beautiful. So actually, they came to Krsna being lusty, but Krsna is so pure that they became first-class devotees. There is no comparison of their devotion. Because they loved Krsna with heart and soul. That is the qualification. That is the qualification. They loved so much Krsna that they didn't care for family, for reputation. When they were going at dead of night... Krsna's flute was there, and they were all fleeing. Their father, their brother, their husband: "Where you are going? Where you are going in this dead of night?" They didn't care. They neglected their children, their family, everything: "We must go to Krsna." So this is required. We must be very, very eager so that... And many gopis who were forcibly stopped, going to Krsna, they lost their life. Just see how much eager they are. So this eagerness is wanted. Then you can see God. Either you become lusty or a thief or a murderer or whatever it may be. Some way or other, if you develop this eagerness, that "I must see Krsna," then Krsna will be seen.<br />
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So here is... The first thing is how much eager you are to see Krsna. Krsna will respond. If you are actually eager to see Krsna... It, the reason may be different, either you are lusty or to steal His ornament. Some way or other, you become attracted to Krsna, then your business is successful. Rupa Gosvami has advised that... He says in a poetry. It is on the matter of the gopis talking. One gopi is advising another gopi that "My dear friend..."<br />
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smeran bhangi-traya-paricitam saci-vistirna-drstim<br />
vamsinyastadhara-kisalayam ujjvalam candrakena<br />
govindakhyam haritanumitah kesi-tirthopakanthe<br />
ma preksisthastava yadi sakhe! bandhu-sange 'sti rangah<br />
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The idea is that one gopi is advising another gopi, "My dear friend, there is one boy. His name is Govinda. He is standing on the bank of Yamuna near the Kesi-ghata, and He's playing on His flute. And He's so beautiful that especially during full moon night, please do not go there." (laughter) Why? "Now, because if you have got intention to enjoy in this material world with your family members, wife, children, husband, please do not go there." Smeran bhangi-traya-paricitam saci-vistirna-drstim. Bhangi-traya. "Krsna always stands in three-curved way with His flute. That is Krsna's tri-bhanga-murari." Tri-bhanga. Three places, He is bent. So,<br />
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smeran bhangi-traya-paricitam saci-vistirna-drstim<br />
vamsinyastadhara-kisalayam ujjvalam candrakena<br />
govindakhyam haritanumitah kesi-tirthopakanthe<br />
ma preksisthastava yadi sakhe! bandhu-sange 'sti rangah<br />
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"If you think that you will enjoy more your life in this material world, then you do not go there. You do not go there."<br />
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The idea is that if you once see Krsna, then you will forget all this nonsense material enjoyment. That is seeing Krsna. No more. Svamin krtartho 'smi varam na yace. "My dear Lord I don't want anything." Dhruva Maharaja... Dhruva Maharaja went to see Krsna to get the kingdom of his father, but when he saw Krsna, Visnu... Visnu offered, "Now, whatever benediction you want, you take." He said, svamin krtartho 'smi varam na yace, "My dear Lord, I have no more any desire." That is Krsna seeing. That if you want to see Krsna for some business, that "I shall see Krsna..." Just like... Of course, if you are eager to see Krsna, the motive may be different, but somehow or other, due to your eagerness, you'll see Krsna. That is the only qualification.<br />
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In another poetry Rupa Gosvami says, krsna-bhakti-rasa-bhavita matih kriyatam yadi kuto 'pi labhyate. The, our this Krsna consciousness, I have taken this from this word krsna-bhakti-rasa-bhavita matih. This is actual translation in Sanskrit or... Krsna-bhakti-rasa-bhavita matih. So Rupa Gosvami advises that "Krsna consciousness, if it is possible, please purchase. Don't delay." Krsna-bhakti-rasa-bhavita matih kriyatam. "Purchase immediately!" Krsna-bhakti-rasa-bhavita matih kriyatam yadi kuto 'pi. "Where it is available? It is very nice thing." "Yes, it is available. You can purchase. The movement is going on." "And what is the price?" "Price?" "It is such a nice thing; you have to pay price." "Yes, there is price." "What is that?" Tatra laulyam ekalam mulyam: "Simply your eagerness. That is price. This price you have to pay." Then you get Krsna. Immediately. Krsna is not poor. And the Krsna-seller, the Krsna devotee, he is also not poor. He can distribute Krsna free. And he's doing that. Simply you have to purchase by your eagerness. That is wanted. Tatra laulyam. "Oh, eagerness? I have got eagerness." "Oh, it is not so easy." Tatra laulyam ekalam mulyam janma-koti-sukrtair na labhyate: "This eagerness cannot be achieved even by pious activities for millions of births." If you simply go on doing pious activities... Because without being pious, you cannot approach Krsna. So if you go on doing simply pious, janma-koti-sukrtaih... Sukrti means pious activities, simply pious. Still, this eagerness is not awakened.<br />
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So this eagerness is very important thing. But it can be awakened by the association of devotees. Therefore we are giving chance to everyone to invoke that eagerness. Then you will see God eye to eye. It is not difficult. Tac chraddadhana munayah. Those who have developed that eagerness, faith, that "I must see Krsna in this life..." This life is meant for seeing Krsna. It is not meant for becoming dogs and hogs. Unfortunately, the whole civilization is going on, they are being trained to become dogs and hogs. It is the only institution that is teaching people how to see Krsna. This is the only institution, this Krsna consciousness movement. It is so important. Tac chraddadhana munayo jnana-vairagya-yuktaya [SB 1.2.12]. By eagerness, automatically you will be enriched with knowledge and detachment. Knowledge does not mean, "Now we have discovered this atomic bomb." That is not knowledge. What knowledge this is? People are dying. You have discovered something which will accelerate death. But we are giving some knowledge to stop death. That is Krsna consciousness. This is knowledge. Jnana-vairagya-yuktaya. And as soon as you get this knowledge, automatically you become detached to all this nonsense material happiness.<br />
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Hare Krsna. Thank you very much. Hare Krsna. (devotees offer obeisances) Chant Hare Krsna. (end)<br />
Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.2.12 -- Los Angeles, August 15, 1972