Pointing out that an NFL analyst has his head up his butt is hardly breaking news. But Shaun King's take on Russell Wilson in this 2012 NFL "re-draft" is something to behold. Ryan Tannehill over Russell Wilson?

1. Russell Wilson: Probably would have had the best rookie season in NFL history had Pete trusted him to run the offense sooner.2. Robert Griffin III: He's injury prone, but I'd bet even RG3 on a leash will outplay Andrew Luck in 2013.3. Andrew Luck: Among the starting QBs with higher passer ratings than Luck in 2012: Kevin Kolb, Carson Palmer, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Christian Ponder, Matt Hasselbeck, and Blaine Gabbert (not joking). 4. Luke Kuechly: When Kuechly moved to MLB, his defense took off like a rocket. Anyone who wants to bash Kuechly- remember that JS wanted Kuechly a full round earlier than Wagner.5. Doug Martin: Kind of a logjam for the final spot, I gave it to Martin over Alfred Morris. As a rookie 1926 he had rush+receiving yards. I'm amazed that isn't a rookie record.

1. Russell Wilson: Probably would have had the best rookie season in NFL history had Pete trusted him to run the offense sooner.2. Robert Griffin III: He's injury prone, but I'd bet even RG3 on a leash will outplay Andrew Luck in 2013.3. Andrew Luck: Among the starting QBs with higher passer ratings than Luck in 2012: Kevin Kolb, Carson Palmer, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Christian Ponder, Matt Hasselbeck, and Blaine Gabbert (not joking).

a) Imagine if Russell had Miller as an active target instead of him having to pass block against constant blitzes on obvious pass downs with that vanilla play calling. I think he'd have set an NFL record much less a rookie record. lol.b) I feel bad for RJoeThiesmann III. Maybe Shanahan will protect him better, but I don't have any faith in that.c) Also among the quarterbacks with a higher completion percentage then Luck in 2012: Mark Sanchez. Ouch.

I'd put Tannehill in there for a solid season. He could have done a lot worse.

"Russell Wilson is the best QB and best player on the board. But Seattle is the perfect situation for him, so we're going to select Ryan Tannehill." "Yep."

49ers webzone: Win or lose, i hope you injure Sherman. Like a serious career ending injury. I don't want him to get paid.49ers webzone: noise should not be the overwhelming reason a team is favored. they need to spray noise-damping foam onto the ceiling of that place.

HawkFanNC wrote:Pointing out that an NFL analyst has his head up his butt is hardly breaking news. But Shaun King's take on Russell Wilson in this 2012 NFL "re-draft" is something to behold. Ryan Tannehill over Russell Wilson?

Interesting that Luck is still widely considered the #1 prospect of the 2012 class despite having two rookies outperform him in every meaningful QB metric last year. Bias toward tall white QBs is alive and well in the nation. Don't give me the "he's a true pocket passer" crap. Luck didn't demonstrate that he could do even that better than Wilson or RG3.

DavidSeven wrote:Interesting that Luck is still widely considered the #1 prospect of the 2012 class despite having two rookies outperform him in every meaningful QB metric last year. Bias toward tall white QBs is alive and well in the nation. Don't give me the "he's a true pocket passer" crap. Luck didn't demonstrate that he could do even that better than Wilson or RG3.

to be fair he took a team in a MUCH worse position than the other two into the playoffs, not to mention RG3 has Morris, Wilson has Beast, Luck has.... ummm?

DavidSeven wrote:Interesting that Luck is still widely considered the #1 prospect of the 2012 class despite having two rookies outperform him in every meaningful QB metric last year. Bias toward tall white QBs is alive and well in the nation. Don't give me the "he's a true pocket passer" crap. Luck didn't demonstrate that he could do even that better than Wilson or RG3.

to be fair he took a team in a MUCH worse position than the other two into the playoffs, not to mention RG3 has Morris, Wilson has Beast, Luck has.... ummm?

Luck has Reggie Wayne who is by far the best WR on any of those three teams. The Colts also had one of the worst strength of schedules in the league. Their 11-5 record was a joke.

I think Tannehill has to be top 5 in a redraft, although obviously not over Wilson. Tannehill didn't have the season of the big 3, but he looked fantastic for a supposedly-raw rookie with a subpar group of targets in the passing game.

It's not even close which one you take. Not to mention that the Seahawks had a much, MUCH better defense, along with a better offensive line than the Colts.

That's not to say that I'd take Luck over Wilson; I wouldn't.

I don't see why, as Seahawks fans, we have to bash Luck at every turn believe that he is some overrated hack. He's an amazing young talent, and fans of both the Colts and Seahawks should be absolutely thrilled to have an elite-caliber QB on their roster for likely the next decade plus.

Rat wrote:I think Tannehill has to be top 5 in a redraft, although obviously not over Wilson. Tannehill didn't have the season of the big 3, but he looked fantastic for a supposedly-raw rookie with a subpar group of targets in the passing game.

Hmm. I only got a good look at Tannehill in the Seahawks game, but his numbers don't look very good at all. He had a worse passer rating, QBR and completion percentage than Matt Moore had for the Dolphins in 2011. Granted, they lost Brandon Marshall and were still a better overall team with Tannehill than with Moore, but some of that credit has to go on the new head coach.

I think he's OK in the 5-10 range. Vikings still take Kalil at #4 over Tannehill. The rest of the top 10 depends on team need and draft positioning. Tampa Bay had the original #5, and I don't think they would start Tannehill over Josh Freeman. They'd probably be happier taking Kuechly. The only way Tannehill goes #5 is if Jacksonville still trades up to that spot.

It's not even close which one you take. Not to mention that the Seahawks had a much, MUCH better defense, along with a better offensive line than the Colts.

That's not to say that I'd take Luck over Wilson; I wouldn't.

I don't see why, as Seahawks fans, we have to bash Luck at every turn believe that he is some overrated hack. He's an amazing young talent, and fans of both the Colts and Seahawks should be absolutely thrilled to have an elite-caliber QB on their roster for likely the next decade plus.

How was I bashing him? I made a comment about him still being the near consensus pick as the #1 QB prospect in the 2012 class, even though he was outperformed by both Wilson and RG3. You said yourself you would take Wilson over him, so it looks like we're in agreement. Objective analysis is allowed here. Also, someone asked who Luck had in terms of top level talent. I answered him.

DavidSeven wrote:Interesting that Luck is still widely considered the #1 prospect of the 2012 class despite having two rookies outperform him in every meaningful QB metric last year. Bias toward tall white QBs is alive and well in the nation. Don't give me the "he's a true pocket passer" crap. Luck didn't demonstrate that he could do even that better than Wilson or RG3.

to be fair he took a team in a MUCH worse position than the other two into the playoffs, not to mention RG3 has Morris, Wilson has Beast, Luck has.... ummm?

In one of the worst divisions in football. The Jaguars and Titans spotted the Colts 4 wins.

Blaine Gabbert put up better numbers than Luck so don't just blame the supporting cast.

It's not even close which one you take. Not to mention that the Seahawks had a much, MUCH better defense, along with a better offensive line than the Colts.

That's not to say that I'd take Luck over Wilson; I wouldn't.

I don't see why, as Seahawks fans, we have to bash Luck at every turn believe that he is some overrated hack. He's an amazing young talent, and fans of both the Colts and Seahawks should be absolutely thrilled to have an elite-caliber QB on their roster for likely the next decade plus.

Where I see the big advantage is at RB the rest is even. We both have subpar OL's concerning pass blocking last year. But that can be fixed by draft and maturity.

Shaun King's logic was freaking stupid too.. so what that Russell Wilson found a great home in Seattle? He's still better than Ryan Tannehill and last I checked in a REDRAFT you're taking guys who are BETTER than you originally thought.