Rotaretilbo wrote:Then why didn't he say Japan instead of the Axis powers? Even then, the number of war crimes committed by Japan are practically on par with Nazi Germany. Except, with Germany, the war crimes were almost entirely committed by the government. With Japan, the entire army was committing such acts. In 1937, 50K Japanese soldiers captured Nanking when the 90K Chinese troops surrendered. Within a four days, Japanese soldiers had brutally tortured and murdered 250K men and children and raped and then murdered 80K women.

Hitler had real hate. Japan did not. Japan was just insane at the time.

Hitler hated a religon. He was influenced into an violent hatred.

Terrorists hate a group. They were influenced into an violent hatred.

I somewhat support the Hamas. I support their objective in removing Zionism in Israel. I do not support the extremes to bring about this objective.

so you think Hitler and Hamas have good goals

taking over the world exterminating all but the arian race removing people because they disagree with you

Body armor? The first real body armor to come back into use(that was effective) was kevlar, which was an American creation. Although ineffective against heavier rounds, the ceramic armor developed afterwards was effective.

The maxim gun, the first real machine gun(which formed the basis for the Assult rifle and SMG) was made by an American Born inventor who mvoed to England.

When it comes to automatic rifles/assault rifles, the Italians, French, Russians, and who knows who else beat the Germans to it.

The Germans may not have invented them, but the Germans made all of them work. Hell, look at the tank. In World War I, the British secretly designed the tank as a super weapon. The thing was epic fail. Germany reverse engineered it, and within a decade, some of the greatest tanks ever designed were fielded by the Third Reich.

What's ironic, Seath, is that the T-34s were actually based heavily on German designs, and were only made possible because the Germans were ordered by Hitler to give the Russians all sorts of tools and manufacturing stuff right before Operation Barbossa. The T-34 would have been impossible without the Germans. I mean, how could the T-34 be based on American designs if the American tank, the Sherman, was one of the worst tanks fielded so late in the conflict?

Rotaretilbo wrote:Actually, Japan had a real hate, too. They hated the Koreans and Chinese.

Anyway, let me get this straight. You are comparing Hamas to Hitler in order to support your argument that Hamas is justified in attacking the Jews in Israel, and even go as far to say that you support Hamas's goal, but not necessarily their methods? So...um...you forgot that part where Hitler was the embodiment of evil and pretty much everyone but NT hates him, didn't you?

No, that was political hate. Like Confederates and the Union. Brothers and yet they fought against each other.You got it in zig zags.

I am comparing Hamas to Hitler by the hatred they had.

Hamas has good reasons for defeating Zionism. But they went to an insane extreme in order to receive this goal.Not attack Jews in Israel. Attacking Zionism by political means.

I compared Hitler and Hamas by hatred and small parts of actions.

1. Hitler was on drugs.2. Hitler was a genius mentally.3. Hitler was insane with hatred.

Actually, no, the Japanese have absolutely despised the Koreans for hundreds of years. It has nothing to do with politics. And the Japanese hated the Chinese because they believed them to be cowards. Also not political.

And I still don't see where you are going with this Hamas-Hitler analogy. How does comparing Hamas to Hitler help your argument in any way? Hitler was a cult of personality, not a genius. The guy is probably one of the most brainfucked people on the face of the planet. Only someone with an IQ below room temperature could have taken Germany, the most technologically and militarily advanced country in the world at that time, and lost a war with the UK, US, and USSR. I could probably list ten decisions Hitler made in contradiction to everyone around him's advice that each could have turned the tide of the war, if he had just listened. Even if he had made the other nine, Germany could have still pulled out on top. It was like Hitler was actively sabotaging his own war effort. The only thing Hitler did for Germany was take all the credit for the economic revitalization, which was really brought on by the people themselves. Hitler's charisma helped, but he certainly wasn't some mastermind behind it.

And God knows, he had no good goal in mind for eradicating the Jews, as you claim Hamas does. The only thing comparing Hamas to Hitler can do is hurt your argument, so why make the comparison?

Rotaretilbo wrote:What's ironic, Seath, is that the T-34s were actually based heavily on German designs, and were only made possible because the Germans were ordered by Hitler to give the Russians all sorts of tools and manufacturing stuff right before Operation Barbossa. The T-34 would have been impossible without the Germans. I mean, how could the T-34 be based on American designs if the American tank, the Sherman, was one of the worst tanks fielded so late in the conflict?

T-34 was a re-design of the BT tank and utilized the Suspension and Slope armor systems/concepts developed by J. Walter Christie

Germans did not come up with the suspension or sloped armor, an American Engineer did. The Russians bought the original designs(through several third parties) and incorporated the systems into the BT, and later the T-34.