topic Re: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availability in Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1560202#M29495
Apparently this is not very popular but I have never experienced these kind of speeds that I am experiencing now… This latest update has radically optimized my system… I’m sorry everyone has trouble but my system is the best it has ever been… By farSat, 28 Apr 2018 04:18:23 GMTAcerun2018-04-28T04:18:23ZOrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557575#M29076
<P>A quick update. &nbsp;We're about to release an updated version of OrbiOS 2.1.4 in the next few days through our auto-update mechanism&nbsp;for all Orbi models. &nbsp;When it goes live, you should see a prompt in the Orbi Mobile App (or the WebUI) to upgrade your firmware. &nbsp;In addition to the connectivity fixes in 2.1.3, has a few additional bug fixes from the last release (2.1.3).</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>Orbi Product Mangement</SPAN></P>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 00:26:11 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557575#M29076AmitR2018-04-24T00:26:11ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557582#M29078
Now does this require a full reset? From 2.1.2.18Tue, 24 Apr 2018 00:38:48 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557582#M29078OrbiMan2018-04-24T00:38:48ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557646#M29089
<P>In the meantime can we get a download link for 2.1.4? Would love to tortue myself with it.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>As for OrbiMan's question. I haven't done a reset since I purchased my Orbi 6 months ago. I have entered&nbsp;way too many port forwarding and LAN Address Reservations to have to reset every time. I would only consider it if I were having problem, of which I am not.</P>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 04:52:06 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557646#M29089Rattler2018-04-24T04:52:06ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557833#M29111
I just got a prompt for the update and it is installing now.<BR /><BR />Are the new fixes also related to connectivity?<BR /><BR />ThanksTue, 24 Apr 2018 13:35:43 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557833#M29111Wizec2018-04-24T13:35:43ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557881#M29114
<P>Hi, the web interface tells me that the updrade is available only for satellites and not for router...</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>How is this?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>any direct link to update manually?</P>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 14:37:57 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557881#M29114pm73it2018-04-24T14:37:57ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557892#M29116
<P>Rlease notes says still there is know issue with 2 or more satellite</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><STRONG>Bug Fixes:</STRONG></P><UL><LI>Fixes the issue where Orbi app displays a “Router Not Setup” message and requests the user to setup their Orbi router again even though the user already completed the Orbi router installation.</LI></UL><P><STRONG>Known Issue:</STRONG></P><UL><LI>When user has two or more Orbi satellites connected to Orbi router using Ethernet backhaul connection, an Orbi satellite might not connect to the Orbi router after the firmware update. A workaround solution is to reboot the Orbi router and then wait for 2 –5 minutes.</LI></UL><P>So should we still wait for a fix?</P>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 14:49:26 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557892#M29116wifi_en2018-04-24T14:49:26ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557919#M29119
<P>RBR50 and RBS50 only so far:</P><P><A href="https://kb.netgear.com/000055985/RBR50-RBS50-Firmware-Version-2-1-4-10" target="_blank">https://kb.netgear.com/000055985/RBR50-RBS50-Firmware-Version-2-1-4-10</A></P>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:05:49 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557919#M29119FURRYe382018-04-24T15:05:49ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557927#M29123
<P>What happened to me this morning was my WiFi connectivity went to heck in a hand basket. Long WiFi drops over and over again.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I decided to try a factory reset since I had never tried that since purchasing the system. Right after I did that, the Orbi app on my phone prompted me that there was an update available, so I updated from within the app. It updated my satellite and router.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>It’s also possible that they have some kind of phased rollout when it comes to router update detection, say by serial number or something, and my serial number just happened to be in the pool that can detect the update from the router this morning. I have no idea if that’s a thing though.</P>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:12:59 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557927#M29123Wizec2018-04-24T15:12:59ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557935#M29125
<P>So... the release notes say that with 2 or more ethernet backhaul satellites there will be issues...</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I have 2 satellites, and with os 2.1.3.4 the ethernet backhaul was a pain.</P><P>So that has not been resolved.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>But release notrs say tat is enaugh to wait 2-5 minute for it ti fix by itself???</P><P>Or is beter for me to use 1 satellite with ethernet and the other with wifi?</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:16:25 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557935#M29125pm73it2018-04-24T15:16:25ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557942#M29129
<P>Try setting up 1 satellite first via wifi, then connect the ethernet cable and give 5 minutes to let it configure the system. Check internet connection thru the satellite. If good, do same for 2nd satellite.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>How big is your home? Sq Ft? Distance between router and satellite is key. 30 ft minumum distance is a good start.&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="604763"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P>So... the release notes say that with 2 or more ethernet backhaul satellites there will be issues...</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I have 2 satellites, and with os 2.1.3.4 the ethernet backhaul was a pain.</P><P>So that has not been resolved.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>But release notrs say tat is enaugh to wait 2-5 minute for it ti fix by itself???</P><P>Or is beter for me to use 1 satellite with ethernet and the other with wifi?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:23:19 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557942#M29129FURRYe382018-04-24T15:23:19ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557943#M29130
<P>Did you do another reset after the udpate was applied? Try this then set up from scratch.&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="503272"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P>What happened to me this morning was my WiFi connectivity went to heck in a hand basket. Long WiFi drops over and over again.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I decided to try a factory reset since I had never tried that since purchasing the system. Right after I did that, the Orbi app on my phone prompted me that there was an update available, so I updated from within the app. It updated my satellite and router.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>It’s also possible that they have some kind of phased rollout when it comes to router update detection, say by serial number or something, and my serial number just happened to be in the pool that can detect the update from the router this morning. I have no idea if that’s a thing though.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:24:29 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557943#M29130FURRYe382018-04-24T15:24:29ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557947#M29133
<P>My house is 2500 sq feet on three flor.</P><P>My orbi router is in the middle floor</P><P>1st and 3rd floors have orbi satellite.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Wifi connection is good, but i would prefer the wired one since close to each orbi unit i have a ethernet port that goes in a switch in the basement where&nbsp;i have a rack with a switch and internet modem.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>But when i try to use ethernet backhaul is a pain.... simply does not work, i think it creates something strange with sonos that i have all wired in the same switch (i have 8 sonos components all wired in that switch and they work flawlessly)</P>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:28:24 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557947#M29133pm73it2018-04-24T15:28:24ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557959#M29139
<P>Disable the sonos while setting up the system. Backhaul is working on v2.1.3.4 and should be same on v2.1.4.10.&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="604763"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P>My house is 2500 sq feet on three flor.</P><P>My orbi router is in the middle floor</P><P>1st and 3rd floors have orbi satellite.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Wifi connection is good, but i would prefer the wired one since close to each orbi unit i have a ethernet port that goes in a switch in the basement where&nbsp;i have a rack with a switch and internet modem.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>But when i try to use ethernet backhaul is a pain.... simply does not work, i think it creates something strange with sonos that i have all wired in the same switch (i have 8 sonos components all wired in that switch and they work flawlessly)</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:38:06 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557959#M29139FURRYe382018-04-24T15:38:06ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557970#M29142
<P>I'll try to disable sonos... but my guess is thet when if plug it again it will be the same...</P>
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<P>my switch is unmanaged, so it shoub be not a problem.</P>
<P>As of today in that switch there is sonos and sky q plugged, and both work fine</P>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:44:12 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557970#M29142pm73it2018-04-24T15:44:12ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557974#M29143
<P>Yes, unmanged is good.&nbsp;</P>
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<P>Seen others post about Sonos causing problems though. I have wired back haul working here, however I don't have any Sonos.&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:49:35 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1557974#M29143FURRYe382018-04-24T15:49:35ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558058#M29150
Wiring more than one Sonos unit killed my Orbi. I don't think this is only a Orbi problem, it requires spanning tree protocol or something on the router. Only wire one Sonos unit fixed it for meTue, 24 Apr 2018 18:12:24 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558058#M29150cscheiene2018-04-24T18:12:24ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558153#M29162
How about you give us the option to turn OFF AUTOUPDATE. Or STOP automatic updates all together! When you guys roll out the updates FORCED Orbi resets and looses all my settings and takes down my internet and home security system as I’m not home. That’s a fantastic feature! SO sick of this POS not working reliability.Tue, 24 Apr 2018 20:45:54 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558153#M29162EvolutionOX2018-04-24T20:45:54ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558234#M29168
<P>That's not normal<SPAN class="UserName lia-user-name lia-user-rank-Initiate lia-component-message-view-widget-author-username"> <A id="link_22" class="lia-link-navigation lia-page-link lia-user-name-link" style="color: #000000;" href="https://community.netgear.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/491672" target="_self"><SPAN class="">EvolutionOX</SPAN></A></SPAN>, Orbi should not forget configuration settings just because it was updated. Perhaps you have a defective unit? I agree Control over the upgrade process should be given to users. Netgear can sell their products to auto update by default, but always giving the users a choice if they wish not to do so.</P>
<P>I fully understand their reasons for doing&nbsp; this (possible security issues in the future that clueless users will be affected by because they have no idea their router needs updating) but still give us a choice, it's just fair for those that are tech savy.</P>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 23:20:13 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558234#M29168Ely2018-04-24T23:20:13ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558235#M29169
<P>This is the exact reason I am going to return the RBK53 kit I bought from costco. Insane not to give the user the option to choose whether to do firmware update!</P>
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<P>Orbi team, please add this option now!!!!</P>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 23:17:44 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558235#M29169taohat2018-04-24T23:17:44ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558264#M29176
Search old thread bit there are way to telnet into router and change variables so that updates won't happen. Not user friendly but it is there.Wed, 25 Apr 2018 00:17:48 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558264#M29176OrbiMan2018-04-25T00:17:48ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558269#M29179
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="402609"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />Search old thread bit there are way to telnet into router and change variables so that updates won't happen. Not user friendly but it is there.<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>I read a lot of old threads, seeing different outcomes. Is there a reliable method?</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 00:33:07 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558269#M29179taohat2018-04-25T00:33:07ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558271#M29180
<P>Any update on updating the VPN certificate?</P>
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<P>&nbsp;<span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="vpn.png" style="width: 562px;"><img src="https://community.netgear.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/26687iBF2548569A376704/image-size/large?v=1.0&amp;px=999" title="vpn.png" alt="vpn.png" /></span></P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 00:36:17 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558271#M29180m14t2018-04-25T00:36:17ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558281#M29181
Is 2.1.4 stable? I’m still on 2.1.2.18. Has anyone successfully updated through the app with rbk50 system and then not heard anyone yelling about the WiFi not working?Wed, 25 Apr 2018 00:57:12 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558281#M29181Eric90i2018-04-25T00:57:12ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558287#M29183
Yeah I literally just rolled back to 2.1.2.18 because I got tired of random issues like my RainMachine losing connection after a few days. I think I might stay on this for a while. I am curious if 2.1.4 is considered a beta still? I haven’t gotten a notification for an update even if I manually check and I’m wondering if it’s because I’m not on a beta at the moment.Wed, 25 Apr 2018 01:34:06 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558287#M29183Sdiver24892018-04-25T01:34:06ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558289#M29184
So my app shows the option to update to 2.1.4.10 currently. Usually they don’t give you the phone app update feature if the firmware is still beta, but who knows. Did you roll back from the 2.1.4.10, if so why?Wed, 25 Apr 2018 01:44:43 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558289#M29184Eric90i2018-04-25T01:44:43ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558295#M29186
No sorry I rolled back from 2.1.3.4. I am worried that the issues I experienced won’t be fixed because the “bug fixes” of this release are pretty darn small. I’ll wait to hear reports on this one...I hope it fixes more than the release notes lead on.Wed, 25 Apr 2018 01:58:47 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558295#M29186Sdiver24892018-04-25T01:58:47ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558323#M29192
<P>If you update to v2.1.4.10 from v2.1.2, you'll need to do a factory reset and set up from scratch. There are major changes which include items in v2.1.3.4 and now v2.1.4.10 which need a good clean slate to start after installed. Others have posted that problems continued after updating to v2.1.3.4, the problems went away after doing a full factory reset and set up from scratch. I've seen this as well.</P>
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<P>You should give this a try if you deicide to update.&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="545888"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />Is 2.1.4 stable? I’m still on 2.1.2.18. Has anyone successfully updated through the app with rbk50 system and then not heard anyone yelling about the WiFi not working?<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 03:55:33 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558323#M29192FURRYe382018-04-25T03:55:33ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558324#M29193
<P>So I have done some testing with this new version. Just as I have done with every past version since the packet loss issue began. Here is my testing setup for this occasion. There were a total of five devices on my network arranged as such:</P>
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<LI>A simple router providing DHCP with no internet connection. (10.0.0.1)</LI>
<LI>RBR50 Orbi Router in AP mode. (10.0.0.2)</LI>
<LI>RBS50 Orbi Satellite. (10.0.0.3)</LI>
<LI>Testing laptop. (10.0.0.40)</LI>
<LI>Synology NAS (10.0.0.42)</LI>
</UL>
<P>All my testing was done via the testing&nbsp;laptop and always connected to the Orbi Sattelite. The Orbi units where running on wireless backhaul with line of sight of each other. I ran packetloss tests on three targets: simple router, Orbi Router (AP mode) and Synology NAS. Keep in mind there was no internet access during this time and no other devices where on the network. As usual, I did a full factory reset on the Orbi units. Here are my results:</P>
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<P><span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-center" image-alt="10.0.0.1(RouterDHCP).png" style="width: 400px;"><img src="https://community.netgear.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/26688i1750619E32F4356A/image-size/medium?v=1.0&amp;px=400" title="10.0.0.1(RouterDHCP).png" alt="10.0.0.1(RouterDHCP).png" /></span></P>
<P>&nbsp;First up is the simple router on 10.0.0.1 as we can see there is heavy packet loss, as has been with the latest firmware versions on this particular models. A notable difference is that the packet loss pattern is&nbsp;now concentraded in larger chunks. Previos versions would generate a more scattered pattern with thinner lines.</P>
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<P><span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-center" image-alt="10.0.0.2(Satellite).png" style="width: 400px;"><img src="https://community.netgear.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/26689iF7314E0167A24EF4/image-size/medium?v=1.0&amp;px=400" title="10.0.0.2(Satellite).png" alt="10.0.0.2(Satellite).png" /></span></P>
<P>&nbsp;Next is the Orbi router on 10.0.0.2 this is an interesting result because we see no packetloss at all.&nbsp;Keep in mind for this probe all my traffic went from the testing laptop, to&nbsp;the Satellite unit, through wireless backhaul and into the Orbi Router. This clears up any suspicion of the wireless backhaul being the reason of the packet loss. Could it be that my humble router (10.0.0.1), providing DHCP to the network is to blame?</P>
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<P><span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-center" image-alt="10.0.0.42(NAS).png" style="width: 400px;"><img src="https://community.netgear.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/26690iD2CAAE9D14A4CDF5/image-size/medium?v=1.0&amp;px=400" title="10.0.0.42(NAS).png" alt="10.0.0.42(NAS).png" /></span></P>
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<P>This is the result of the same test and same network but this time the target was the Synology NAS. Surprisingly the packetloss is back with the same pattern as we observed on the router (10.0.0.1). This seems to confirm the wireless backhaul is definetly not the cause for this issue. This points to the ethernet ports of the Orbi Router as the failure point.&nbsp;</P>
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<P>The same devices on the same network arrangement rendered&nbsp;no packet loss on all the same tests when running firmware V2.0.0.74. This strongly suggests the issue is due to some factor in the newer firmware. Here is a short Q&amp;A&nbsp;of other variants I tried before typing this post:</P>
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<P><STRONG>Did you tested with&nbsp;any&nbsp;other devices&nbsp;apart from that silly router (10.0.0.1) and the Synology NAS (10.0.0.42)?</STRONG></P>
<P>Yes, practically with anything that had an ethernet port in my home. TVs, game consoles, STB, bluray player, printers, etc...The results where always the same.</P>
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<P><STRONG>Could it be that some of the ethernet ports of your Orbi units are defective?</STRONG></P>
<P>This was one of my first concerns. So I repeted the tests by trying differnet ethernet ports for each&nbsp;device, each time! The only thing that actually made a difference was... firmware version!</P>
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<P><STRONG>Maybe your testing laptop has a faulty network connection?</STRONG></P>
<P>I thought this too and repeated the same tests with two other laptops and iOS devices. The results where the same.</P>
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<P><STRONG>Did you do a full factory reset on the Orbi units? / Configured from scratch? / Updated the Satellite first and Router second?</STRONG></P>
<P>Yep</P>
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<P><STRONG>Tried&nbsp;changing the position of the Orbi Router and Satellite?</STRONG></P>
<P>I don't see how this affects anything considering the results. But, yes I did tried several locations on my house.</P>
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<P><STRONG>Maybe your ethernet cables are bad?</STRONG></P>
<P>Incredibly, my frustration is so big at this point that I actually took the time to test CAT5, CAT5e and CAT6 cable for all tests and devices.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P><STRONG>What is the brand and model of your _______&nbsp;device?</STRONG></P>
<P>At this point it doesn't matter since I tried with so many devices and still the only fix was rolling back to V2.0.0.74</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P><STRONG>Maybe the Orbi units are fine and the other devices are running some weird network configuration?</STRONG></P>
<P>This is the main reason I repeated (painstakingly) the test with all kinds of devices, managed and unmanaged, old and new, etc..(see above). The results remained the same. More importantly, all packetloss patterns went away, from all tests,&nbsp;as soon as&nbsp;I reverted back to&nbsp;firmware 2.0.0.74 on the Orbi units.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>I hope this post is&nbsp;of some use to someone out there on my same situation. Online gaming, VoiP calling, FaceTime Video and that kind of thing are&nbsp;greatly degraded when packet loss is present (specially at the massive rates I'm seeing on my Orbis). Sadly, packet loss is not so noticiable when one&nbsp;is accustomed to a bad ISP service. I'm lucky to be in an area with excelent providers to choose from that provide amazing service. So&nbsp;it is an important matter for me since I work from home.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 03:59:43 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558324#M29193PyroDog2018-04-25T03:59:43ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558325#M29194
<P><SPAN>If you update to v2.1.4.10 from v2.1.2, you'll need to do a f<U>actory reset</U> and <U>set up from scratch</U>. There are major changes which include items in v2.1.3.4 and now v2.1.4.10 which need a good clean slate to start after installed. Others have posted that problems continued after updating to v2.1.3.4, the problems went away after doing a full factory reset and set up from scratch. I've seen this as well.</SPAN></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="560099"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />Yeah I literally just rolled back to 2.1.2.18 because I got tired of random issues like my RainMachine losing connection after a few days. I think I might stay on this for a while. I am curious if 2.1.4 is considered a beta still? I haven’t gotten a notification for an update even if I manually check and I’m wondering if it’s because I’m not on a beta at the moment.<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 04:02:36 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558325#M29194FURRYe382018-04-25T04:02:36ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558326#M29195
<P>Im not seen bad packet lost with my system:</P>
<P><A href="https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1547562/highlight/true#M27733" target="_blank">https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1547562/highlight/true#M27733</A></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Your sysetm maybe intro'g interferences.&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 04:05:42 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558326#M29195FURRYe382018-04-25T04:05:42ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558328#M29196
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="74881"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>Im not seen bad packet lost with my system:</P>
<P><A href="https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1547562/highlight/true#M27733" target="_blank">https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1547562/highlight/true#M27733</A></P>
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<P>Your sysetm maybe intro'g interferences.&nbsp;</P>
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<P>It seems you are using a different Orbi model from mine? I guess that at least we know your model is free from this issue.</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 04:19:48 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558328#M29196PyroDog2018-04-25T04:19:48ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558331#M29197
<P>After updating to latest firmware 2.1.4 has anyone tried logging in to the satellite?&nbsp; Mine says "</P>
<H1 class="extender orange"><SPAN class="extender poor">Move your Orbi satellite closer to your Orbi router to improve the connection"</SPAN></H1>
<P>why do I get this message the main unit RBR50 shows "wired" for sattalite ?? I am confused why do I need to move the satellite if I am using wired backhaul ? YES I factory reset BOTH several times and nvram erase on both same message ! Never saw this on 2.1.3.4 is this a bug? Can someone confirm by checking logging into sattalite ? My Orbi is in AP mode, googlefiber gigabit speed.</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 04:23:51 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558331#M29197JMU19982018-04-25T04:23:51ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558333#M29198
<P>Same code base...</P>
<P>40 Series system.&nbsp;</P>
<P>Test was live and online with ISP modem and services and home networking all running.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>You may have bad configuration, HW or test confiuration.&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="536779"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="74881"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>Im not seen bad packet lost with my system:</P>
<P><A href="https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1547562/highlight/true#M27733" target="_blank">https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1547562/highlight/true#M27733</A></P>
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<P>Your sysetm maybe intro'g interferences.&nbsp;</P>
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<P>It seems you are using a different Orbi model from mine? I guess that at least we know your model is free from this issue.</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 04:39:48 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558333#M29198FURRYe382018-04-25T04:39:48ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558334#M29199
<P>What browser are you using? Try a different browser? IE11, FF or Opera?&nbsp;</P>
<P>Which did you update first? Satellite is recommended first then the router. Then factory reset both and set up from scatch.&nbsp;</P>
<P>Set up the satellite first on wifi and get it added. Then connect the LAN cable to the satellite for wired back haul and give it 5 minutes to re-configure. Seen it where the routers UI doesn't fully update quickly. You might give it say 15-30 minutes to settle in then check the status.&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>When the satellite is wireless connected, what is the distance between the router and satellite?&nbsp;</P>
<P>Any network switches in between the router and satellite?&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="127217"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>After updating to latest firmware 2.1.4 has anyone tried logging in to the satellite?&nbsp; Mine says "</P>
<H1 class="extender orange"><SPAN class="extender poor">Move your Orbi satellite closer to your Orbi router to improve the connection"</SPAN></H1>
<P>why do I get this message the main unit RBR50 shows "wired" for sattalite ?? I am confused why do I need to move the satellite if I am using wired backhaul ? YES I factory reset BOTH several times and nvram erase on both same message ! Never saw this on 2.1.3.4 is this a bug? Can someone confirm by checking logging into sattalite ? My Orbi is in AP mode, googlefiber gigabit speed.</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 04:35:00 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558334#M29199FURRYe382018-04-25T04:35:00ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558339#M29200
<P>I upgraded my Orbi + 3 satellites to V2.1.4.10 using the web browser (Update All) and everything worked smoothly.&nbsp; fast.com reports 250 Mbps which is as fast as it has been&nbsp;with previous firmware versions.&nbsp; However, I was also one of the lucky ones with no issues with previous Orbi firmware versions and my 55 connected devices.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 04:44:24 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558339#M29200Mikey940252018-04-25T04:44:24ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558341#M29202
<P>Nice to hear. Hope it works well for you. Hope you don't need to factory reset either.&nbsp;</P>
<P>Enjoy.&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="1370"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>I upgraded my Orbi + 3 satellites to V2.1.4.10 using the web browser (Update All) and everything worked smoothly.&nbsp; fast.com reports 250 Mbps which is as fast as it has been&nbsp;with previous firmware versions.&nbsp; However, I was also one of the lucky ones with no issues with previous Orbi firmware versions and my 55 connected devices.</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 04:45:38 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558341#M29202FURRYe382018-04-25T04:45:38ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558345#M29204
<P>Upgraded succesfully here, no issues at all so far, pretty stable.</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 04:49:43 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558345#M29204Ely2018-04-25T04:49:43ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558381#M29210
Can someone please explain or link to the instructions on how to reset the NVram via telnet on the Orbi?Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:16:07 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558381#M29210EvolutionOX2018-04-25T08:16:07ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558412#M29211
Pyro what is that software? Is it just a simple continuous ping with gui interface?Wed, 25 Apr 2018 10:28:47 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558412#M29211OrbiMan2018-04-25T10:28:47ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558439#M29214
<P>The Orbi app offered to update my system this morning.&nbsp; Good way to do it.&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>The update went smoothly, as have all past updates since I installed in December.&nbsp; I needed to restart the Orbi app to refresh it's data.&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>I have not needed to do a factory refresh.&nbsp; My configuration had always been transferred automatically through each update.&nbsp; &nbsp;I don't remember all the version numbers,&nbsp; but I started in 1... to 2.0.. to 2.0.?.18 to 2.1.3.4 to 2.1.4.10.</P>
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<P>All working well so far.&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 11:48:30 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558439#M29214BobDuke2018-04-25T11:48:30ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558476#M29216
<P>Update mine via the app last night.&nbsp; Very disppointing.&nbsp; No drama at all.&nbsp; After about 5 minutes or so everything was working as normal with no issues at all.</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 12:54:58 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558476#M29216tsig2018-04-25T12:54:58ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558502#M29219
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="402609"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />Pyro what is that software? Is it just a simple continuous ping with gui interface?<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>This is the software I'm using for my tests:</P>
<P><A href="http://www.pingplotter.com/products/free.html" target="_blank">http://www.pingplotter.com/products/free.html</A></P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 13:18:38 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558502#M29219PyroDog2018-04-25T13:18:38ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558516#M29220
<P>HomeKit still broken.</P>
<P>Back to 2.1.2.18.</P>
<P>Your next update should really include the 'no update' option. <img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /></P>
<P>30-40 minutes of my time to roll back every time is getting tiresome.</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 13:34:09 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558516#M29220usahale2018-04-25T13:34:09ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558576#M29221
<P>I updated because the interface offered it to me. It went smoothly so far. I'll see if the Rainmachine issues continue or other weird random issues.&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 14:24:20 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558576#M29221Sdiver24892018-04-25T14:24:20ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558581#M29222
<P>When I updated my RBK50 (both router and satellite) to&nbsp;<SPAN>2.1.3.4 I reset everything but still had issues with the satellite. When the RBW30 2.1.3.6 firmware was released I updated those, reset and added to the RBK50 router and was goind relatively well. A few drops here and there but nothing major.</SPAN></P>
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<P><SPAN>I then updated the router to 2.1.4.10 via the web gui upgrade and both RBW30's now drop in and out a lot so have turned them off until a 2.1.4.x update is available for those. I am not resetting everything again as have had enough of doing that and as per various comments updating from 2.1.3.4 to 2.1.4.10 via an upgrade instead of using BETA software shouldn't require a full reset again.</SPAN></P>
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<P><SPAN>I tested again with the RBK50 satellite (RBS50), updated, reset it and connected but as I noticed before bugger all devices will connect to it and continue to connect to the router so have just swtiched that off as no point wasting electric.</SPAN></P>
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<P><SPAN>will await RBW30 firmware before testing those again.</SPAN></P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 14:28:52 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558581#M29222RJD2018-04-25T14:28:52ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558617#M29226
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="552431"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>Updated this morning,&nbsp; no reset.&nbsp; Very disappointing.&nbsp; No drama at all.&nbsp; After about 5 minutes or so everything was working as normal with no issues at all.</P>
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<P>Ditto</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 14:55:40 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558617#M29226tagteam2018-04-25T14:55:40ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558620#M29228
<P>I update three bases and 3 satilittes yesterday. Upgrade was a smotth as silk.</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 15:03:03 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558620#M29228Frank_H2018-04-25T15:03:03ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558621#M29229
<P>As so many others have stated THERE NEEDS TO BE A NO UPDATE OPTION AVAILABLE!!!! I saw the update last night and installed it. It worked for a few minutes then I lost connectivity completely. My ORBI router sits in my office at the front of the house where my modem is. One satellite in my master bedroom closet connected wirelessly. The second satellite connected via ethernet backhaul upstairs at the back of my house. The system was stable under&nbsp;<SPAN>2.1.2.18. I rolled back to&nbsp;2.1.2.18 after 2.1.4 hosed everything. All was back to normal. Then I wake this morning to find that 2.1.4.10 was installed again on the system and again loss of connectivity. Rolled back to&nbsp;2.1.2.18 again this morning and will have to check again at lunch if it has gone to 2.1.4.10 again. I haven't tried factory resetting it all yet. I guess I have to see if that works.&nbsp;</SPAN></P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 15:03:43 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558621#M29229kc5grw2018-04-25T15:03:43ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558657#M29236
<P>You can use iPerf3 as well which is more accurate and is what router Mfr use in there testing...</P>
<P>This elimicated the need of additional testing HW. You want the most accurate test configuration to get the most accurate results. Having additonal test HW can cause false or bad results. Just two PCs with Gb adapters is all thats needed. Can use a Gb non managed switch were needed.&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="402609"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />Pyro what is that software? Is it just a simple continuous ping with gui interface?<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 15:33:00 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558657#M29236FURRYe382018-04-25T15:33:00ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558658#M29237
<P>Glad the update went smoothly and you haven't had to factory reset. Some haven't had any problems during or after updates. Thats good as well. Factory reset is recommended if you do encounter problems.&nbsp;</P>
<P><BR />Enjoy.&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="533952"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>The Orbi app offered to update my system this morning.&nbsp; Good way to do it.&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>The update went smoothly, as have all past updates since I installed in December.&nbsp; I needed to restart the Orbi app to refresh it's data.&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>I have not needed to do a factory refresh.&nbsp; My configuration had always been transferred automatically through each update.&nbsp; &nbsp;I don't remember all the version numbers,&nbsp; but I started in 1... to 2.0.. to 2.0.?.18 to 2.1.3.4 to 2.1.4.10.</P>
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<P>All working well so far.&nbsp;</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 15:34:53 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558658#M29237FURRYe382018-04-25T15:34:53ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558661#M29238
<P>When coming from older v2.1.x.x FW there are some major changes when loading v2.1.4.10. So please do a full factory reset on the router and satellites then set up from scratch. Should see better results. Others have mentioned this as well.&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="605109"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>As so many others have stated THERE NEEDS TO BE A NO UPDATE OPTION AVAILABLE!!!! I saw the update last night and installed it. It worked for a few minutes then I lost connectivity completely. My ORBI router sits in my office at the front of the house where my modem is. One satellite in my master bedroom closet connected wirelessly. The second satellite connected via ethernet backhaul upstairs at the back of my house. The system was stable under&nbsp;<SPAN>2.1.2.18. I rolled back to&nbsp;2.1.2.18 after 2.1.4 hosed everything. All was back to normal. Then I wake this morning to find that 2.1.4.10 was installed again on the system and again loss of connectivity. Rolled back to&nbsp;2.1.2.18 again this morning and will have to check again at lunch if it has gone to 2.1.4.10 again. I haven't tried factory resetting it all yet. I guess I have to see if that works.&nbsp;</SPAN></P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 15:37:56 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558661#M29238FURRYe382018-04-25T15:37:56ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558688#M29252
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="74881"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>When coming from older v2.1.x.x FW there are some major changes when loading v2.1.4.10. So please do a full factory reset on the router and satellites then set up from scratch. Should see better results. Others have mentioned this as well.&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="605109"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>As so many others have stated THERE NEEDS TO BE A NO UPDATE OPTION AVAILABLE!!!! I saw the update last night and installed it. It worked for a few minutes then I lost connectivity completely. My ORBI router sits in my office at the front of the house where my modem is. One satellite in my master bedroom closet connected wirelessly. The second satellite connected via ethernet backhaul upstairs at the back of my house. The system was stable under&nbsp;<SPAN>2.1.2.18. I rolled back to&nbsp;2.1.2.18 after 2.1.4 hosed everything. All was back to normal. Then I wake this morning to find that 2.1.4.10 was installed again on the system and again loss of connectivity. Rolled back to&nbsp;2.1.2.18 again this morning and will have to check again at lunch if it has gone to 2.1.4.10 again. I haven't tried factory resetting it all yet. I guess I have to see if that works.&nbsp;</SPAN></P>
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<P>The idea of recommending/forcing people to perform a factory reset is bogus.&nbsp; IMHO this would appear to be an easy fix that could be applied with each update and FW install tool, much like a web browser clears its cache.&nbsp; Many folks have personal settings, passwords, etc that require time to reload if a factory reset is perfomed.&nbsp; Don't make it harder than it needs to be.</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 16:09:53 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558688#M29252Retired_Member2018-04-25T16:09:53ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558698#M29256
<P>I presume thats NG desired/intended design. However when users are still continuing to see problems after FW updates, resets is a valid troubleshooting step to take. Again, users have expressed having better results after doing a factory reset and set up from scratch. Others have recently just posted that they have not and are not experiencing problems as well. This is fine and works for them. Others, not so much so lets reset and try this last resort step. Again, I've explained this to you many times.&nbsp;</P>
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<P>Thanks.&nbsp;</P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519673"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
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<P>The idea of recommending/forcing people to perform a factory reset is bogus.&nbsp; IMHO this would appear to be an easy fix that could be applied with each update and FW install tool, much like a web browser clears its cache.&nbsp; Many folks have personal settings, passwords, etc that require time to reload if a factory reset is perfomed.&nbsp; Don't make it harder than it needs to be.</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 16:28:47 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558698#M29256FURRYe382018-04-25T16:28:47ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558718#M29259
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="74881"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>....................................Again, I've explained this to you many times.&nbsp;</P>
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<P>Thanks.&nbsp;</P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519673"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
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<P>The idea of recommending/forcing people to perform a factory reset is bogus.&nbsp; IMHO this would appear to be an easy fix that could be applied with each update and FW install tool, much like a web browser clears its cache.&nbsp; Many folks have personal settings, passwords, etc that require time to reload if a factory reset is perfomed.&nbsp; Don't make it harder than it needs to be</P>
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<P>Thanks…but no thanks</P>
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<P>My post was more of a ‘I thought this was being addressed as a FW bug’, for I’m almost certain it was mentioned in previous post and not by me. Just because it may work for a few, doesn't make it the end all fix.&nbsp; Furthermore, my post or opinion was not directed to you although the quote did get pulled in, in as much it was to be considered a part of the open discussion. &nbsp;Unless you’re driving the NG ship, I am in no need of any explanation from you.</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 16:46:20 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558718#M29259Retired_Member2018-04-25T16:46:20ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558724#M29260
<P>Of course, to each his own.&nbsp;</P>
<P><BR />Good Luck.&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 16:57:34 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558724#M29260FURRYe382018-04-25T16:57:34ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558793#M29267
<P>I have been plagued with Wi-Fi dropping for months now. So two days I ago I decided to manually upgrade my RBR50 and RBS50 sattelite to v2.1.3.4 and everything was working good!&nbsp; Then last night I lost internet connection twice. I logged into the webUI and noticed that they both updated automatically to v2.1.4.10 without my knowledge or input (of course the day after I finally got them working well). My RBW30 updated to 2.1.3.6 automatically as well. Each time a reboot of the router fixed the internet issue. This morning when I woke up I didnt have internet over Wi-Fi again, a reboot fixed the issue again. I tried downgrading my router to 2.1.3.4 but it was unsuccessful. Tonight I will try factory resetting everything and seeing if that helps. I just wish I had the option to install the update and that these firmware upgrades worked better.&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 19:37:17 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558793#M29267DanimalC2018-04-25T19:37:17ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558797#M29268
<P>Let us know if doing a factory reset after applying v2.1.4.10 and set up from scratch helps. .</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="605198"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>I have been plagued with Wi-Fi dropping for months now. So two days I ago I decided to manually upgrade my RBR50 and RBS50 sattelite to v2.1.3.4 and everything was working good!&nbsp; Then last night I lost internet connection twice. I logged into the webUI and noticed that they both updated automatically to v2.1.4.10 without my knowledge or input (of course the day after I finally got them working well). My RBW30 updated to 2.1.3.6 automatically as well. Each time a reboot of the router fixed the internet issue. This morning when I woke up I didnt have internet over Wi-Fi again, a reboot fixed the issue again. I tried downgrading my router to 2.1.3.4 but it was unsuccessful. Tonight I will try factory resetting everything and seeing if that helps. I just wish I had the option to install the update and that these firmware upgrades worked better.&nbsp;</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 19:55:35 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558797#M29268FURRYe382018-04-25T19:55:35ZBetreff: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558810#M29272
<P>New version 2.1.4.10 auto-installed while I was away. No paper clip reset done after this update.</P>
<P>I wait and see what happens thus let you know.</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 20:15:44 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558810#M29272Planetom2018-04-25T20:15:44ZBetreff: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558831#M29275
<P>Hope it works well for you.&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="546780"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>New version 2.1.4.10 auto-installed while I was away. No paper clip reset done after this update.</P>
<P>I wait and see what happens thus let you know.</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 20:51:06 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558831#M29275FURRYe382018-04-25T20:51:06ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558838#M29278
Is there a preferred or recommended procedure for performing a factory reset? I have a system with 2 satellites. After upgrading to 2.1.4, I get extensive and long duration dropouts on my Nest Outdoor cam.Wed, 25 Apr 2018 20:57:32 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558838#M29278erikrubin2018-04-25T20:57:32ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558841#M29279
<P>I would hit the reset button on the back of each Satellite for 15 seconds until you see the top LED glow yellowish color. Then let go. Then top LED should start to blink white. then slowly blink white tell you it's ready to be added. You can reset the router using it's web page UI under Advanced Settings/Backup or use same button in back looking for the top yellowish LED then let go.&nbsp;</P>
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<P>Set up the router first, then add on satellite via wireless. Ensure you see the top LED turn BLUE then add the 2nd Satellite using same add process.&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>You might try setting maual channel 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz instad of AUTO.</P>
<P>You might disable MIMO, Daisy chain and Fast Roaming as awell on the router to test.&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="427494"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />Is there a preferred or recommended procedure for performing a factory reset? I have a system with 2 satellites. After upgrading to 2.1.4, I get extensive and long duration dropouts on my Nest Outdoor cam.<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 21:03:11 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558841#M29279FURRYe382018-04-25T21:03:11ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558890#M29283
<P>Has homekit/mDNS broadcast been fixed in this release?</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 22:46:22 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558890#M29283eljarviso2018-04-25T22:46:22ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558903#M29284
<P>Have had a STABLE connection&nbsp;6 WEEKS ON 2.0.1.4!!!&nbsp; Now the udate to 2.1.4.10 has screwed that all up. Router resets every 15 to 60 minutes. Both router and sateltie are on 2.1.4.10 and both have been factory reset. Still resets keep happening. Going to reset to 2.0.1.4 again. If this keps happening will be getting rid of Netgear product and going else where. This has been going on for far to long.</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 23:06:24 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558903#M29284acrawford722018-04-25T23:06:24ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558910#M29287
<P>Whats the Mfr and model of the ISP modem that the Orbi router is connected too?&nbsp;</P>
<P>Any wireless neighbors near by? If so, how many</P>
<P>What channels are you using? Try manual instead of Auto.&nbsp;</P>
<P>Fw update should try a full factory reset on all units then set up from scratch.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>What is the distance between the router and satellite? 30feet minimum to start.&nbsp;</P>
<P>Whats the size if your home? SqFt.</P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="578054"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>Have had a STABLE connection&nbsp;6 WEEKS ON 2.0.1.4!!!&nbsp; Now the udate to 2.1.4.10 has screwed that all up. Router resets every 15 to 60 minutes. Both router and sateltie are on 2.1.4.10 and both have been factory reset. Still resets keep happening. Going to reset to 2.0.1.4 again. If this keps happening will be getting rid of Netgear product and going else where. This has been going on for far to long.</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 23:16:17 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558910#M29287FURRYe382018-04-25T23:16:17ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558932#M29290
<P>Got the&nbsp;&nbsp;2.1.4 update through the web GUI.&nbsp; Took just a few minutes and all appears to be in order.&nbsp; No factory reset.&nbsp; Wish me well.</P>
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<P>May the force be with us all...............</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 00:34:16 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558932#M29290Retired_Member2018-04-26T00:34:16ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558935#M29291
<P>I too was for weeks on&nbsp;<SPAN>v2.1.3.4 with zero issues.&nbsp; Then during the day yesterday I lost internet connection. I logged into the webUI and noticed that only two of my three satellites got upgraded&nbsp;to v2.1.4.10. &nbsp;The lone satellite that was on 2.1.3.4 effectively brought down my whole network. &nbsp;NETGEAR STOP AUTO UPDATES...I was planning on updating myself on the weekend but the autoupdate FORCED me to do a whole ORBI reset after what was already a long day at work. &nbsp;To be safe I reset the router and all 3 satellites and hopefully my system will be stable for awhile (until the next auto update).</SPAN></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P><SPAN>GIVE ME A GUI CHECKBOX TO TURN OFF AUTO UPDATES.</SPAN></P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 00:52:36 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558935#M29291WAP2018-04-26T00:52:36ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558955#M29297
Performed the update via the phone app. Went smoothly, no factory reset needed. Things have been running as expected to my knowledge for about 12 hours now. <BR /><BR />One side comment, I have never seen my Orbi auto update since I’ve had it. I’ve always either updated when I want or waited for another release.Thu, 26 Apr 2018 03:22:00 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558955#M29297Eric90i2018-04-26T03:22:00ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558963#M29298
<P>I'm not sure why they are releasing firmware update option via the App and Web UI when upgrade firmware isn't available for ALL devices.&nbsp; You really shouldn't update with only partial firmware available.&nbsp; Updating the router and one satellite (RBR50 and RBS50) and then leaving the RBS50Y and a RBS40 for instance on older firmware is just a recipe for disconnects and frustration.</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 04:06:36 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558963#M29298loomis19752018-04-26T04:06:36ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558974#M29301
<P>I followed the instructions&nbsp;<A href="https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/The-2-1-2-18-nightmare/m-p/1490248/highlight/true#M21767" target="_self">here</A>&nbsp;and my Orbi's have not auto-updated to 2.1.4. After months of non-stop issues, my base and&nbsp;<SPAN>satellites</SPAN> are&nbsp;mostly working now.&nbsp;I'll never take another update if I can prevent it. Netgear has proven they&nbsp;don't have the&nbsp;<SPAN>discipline</SPAN> to push&nbsp;firmware automatically.&nbsp;</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 04:50:08 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558974#M29301bentwookie2018-04-26T04:50:08ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558993#M29303
<P>PoC system auto-updated at 3am, stopping all speakers in the house that we use for white noise. &nbsp;i now have most of the family awake in the middle of the night for only one reason, bad software. Give us an option to control WHEN WE UPDATE.&nbsp;</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 07:23:28 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1558993#M29303usahale2018-04-26T07:23:28ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559019#M29306
<P>After being forced to auto update to 2.1.4.1 the Orbi has been absolutely terrible. Websites intermittent loading, poor performance satellites losing connection., etc. &nbsp;Ths firmware is unusable. &nbsp; I was on 2.1.3.4 with no problem. I have spent about 3 hours on the phone with tech support and here is where I stand.&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Tech support told told me not to plug in one satellite for fear it might be creating interference. Don’t use Ethernet backhaul. And currently I can download 170mbs if my computer is hardwired into the router, but wireless speed is 20mbs download when the device is 10feet from router (connected to router, not satellite). With no physical object blocking signal.&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>System ran fine in 2.1.3.4, &nbsp;now it’s terrible. Worst thing is the auto firmware update. I can do a thing about it.&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Unbelievible. I think I will have to return it to Costco. My family and myself are losing our minds.&nbsp;</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 09:38:50 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559019#M29306Yamamoto2018-04-26T09:38:50ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559202#M29324
<P>When I wake up at 5 AM in the morning and my cameras are down, alarm is down, my phone isn't working right because it's connected to wireless that isn't actually going anywhere is not acceptable.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>I'm soooooo glad that there people that don't have issues with these updates. But for the people that do, asking them to do factory resets is insulting. And it's beyond irresponsible for Netgear to release a firmware that would require people to do that and/or soft brick their PREMIUM product that people paid well over $400 for.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>I just now got my system up and running, and it's taken me almost 5 hours. Setting everything back up after a firmware update is the dumbest thing that I've ever heard of. I have my CCNA, N+ and I'm MSCE in Windows Server and have my Masters Degree in Networking, and am the senior networking administrator at a company of over 50,000 employees - and it took me 5 hours to figure this mess out and get it working. What does that mean for your average home user that bought the unit because the guy at Best Buy said "its awesome!"? This is not the way a product should be handled, and not the way updates should be handled. And Netgear owes people an apologize for it. Will we ever get one, no. We'll get another firmware update that causes us to do this all over again.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>If I was not past my return policy, I'd return this steaming pile of horse manure back to the depths from which it came. Because that's all it is, a pathetic excuse for a piece of networking equipment, being sold as a premium.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>And before you go and say, "Well, that's a valid troubleshooting step..." No, it's not. factory resetting your equipment is not a valid troubleshooting step. It's the LAST step, not the first. If you firmware releases require factory reset, then you're not doing your job right. If these were used in enterprise environments, and they pushed out firmware's like this - they wouldn't be in business long. Which is why after the first time I had this happen with this crap product, we ripped all the Netgear branded routers and switches out of our company and replaced them. If this is how Netgear is going to treat consumers, then they don't deserve our companies business either.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>My "SETUP" - AT&amp;T GIGAPOWER (1000 Mbps / 1000 Mbps) &gt; Netgear Orbi POS&nbsp;<SPAN>RBR50 w/1 RBS50 with public static IP assigned - Latest firmware - 2.1.3.4 before #brickgate.</SPAN></P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 14:52:49 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559202#M29324Squeaky3692018-04-26T14:52:49ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559232#M29330
<P>"You can lead a horse to water, can't make it drink"</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Good Luck in your endeavours.&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="486108"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>When I wake up at 5 AM in the morning and my cameras are down, alarm is down, my phone isn't working right because it's connected to wireless that isn't actually going anywhere is not acceptable.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>I'm soooooo glad that there people that don't have issues with these updates. But for the people that do, asking them to do factory resets is insulting. And it's beyond irresponsible for Netgear to release a firmware that would require people to do that and/or soft brick their PREMIUM product that people paid well over $400 for.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>I just now got my system up and running, and it's taken me almost 5 hours. Setting everything back up after a firmware update is the dumbest thing that I've ever heard of. I have my CCNA, N+ and I'm MSCE in Windows Server and have my Masters Degree in Networking, and am the senior networking administrator at a company of over 50,000 employees - and it took me 5 hours to figure this mess out and get it working. What does that mean for your average home user that bought the unit because the guy at Best Buy said "its awesome!"? This is not the way a product should be handled, and not the way updates should be handled. And Netgear owes people an apologize for it. Will we ever get one, no. We'll get another firmware update that causes us to do this all over again.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>If I was not past my return policy, I'd return this steaming pile of horse manure back to the depths from which it came. Because that's all it is, a pathetic excuse for a piece of networking equipment, being sold as a premium.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>And before you go and say, "Well, that's a valid troubleshooting step..." No, it's not. factory resetting your equipment is not a valid troubleshooting step. It's the LAST step, not the first. If you firmware releases require factory reset, then you're not doing your job right. If these were used in enterprise environments, and they pushed out firmware's like this - they wouldn't be in business long. Which is why after the first time I had this happen with this crap product, we ripped all the Netgear branded routers and switches out of our company and replaced them. If this is how Netgear is going to treat consumers, then they don't deserve our companies business either.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>My "SETUP" - AT&amp;T GIGAPOWER (1000 Mbps / 1000 Mbps) &gt; Netgear Orbi POS&nbsp;<SPAN>RBR50 w/1 RBS50 with public static IP assigned - Latest firmware - 2.1.3.4 before #brickgate.</SPAN></P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 15:35:48 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559232#M29330FURRYe382018-04-26T15:35:48ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559235#M29331
<P>What is the Mfr and model# of the ISP modem the Orbi is connected too?&nbsp;</P>
<P>Please try a factory reset on the router and satellite and set up from scratch and let us know if this changes anything.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="605415"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>After being forced to auto update to 2.1.4.1 the Orbi has been absolutely terrible. Websites intermittent loading, poor performance satellites losing connection., etc. &nbsp;Ths firmware is unusable. &nbsp; I was on 2.1.3.4 with no problem. I have spent about 3 hours on the phone with tech support and here is where I stand.&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Tech support told told me not to plug in one satellite for fear it might be creating interference. Don’t use Ethernet backhaul. And currently I can download 170mbs if my computer is hardwired into the router, but wireless speed is 20mbs download when the device is 10feet from router (connected to router, not satellite). With no physical object blocking signal.&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>System ran fine in 2.1.3.4, &nbsp;now it’s terrible. Worst thing is the auto firmware update. I can do a thing about it.&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Unbelievible. I think I will have to return it to Costco. My family and myself are losing our minds.&nbsp;</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 15:37:16 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559235#M29331FURRYe382018-04-26T15:37:16ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559237#M29332
<P>Try this to disable auto update:</P>
<P><A href="https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/The-2-1-2-18-nightmare/m-p/1490248/highlight/true#M21767" target="_blank">https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/The-2-1-2-18-nightmare/m-p/1490248/highlight/true#M21767</A></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="597521"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>PoC system auto-updated at 3am, stopping all speakers in the house that we use for white noise. &nbsp;i now have most of the family awake in the middle of the night for only one reason, bad software. Give us an option to control WHEN WE UPDATE.&nbsp;</P>
<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 15:38:35 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559237#M29332FURRYe382018-04-26T15:38:35ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559239#M29333
<P>Try this to disable auto update?&nbsp;</P>
<P><A href="https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/The-2-1-2-18-nightmare/m-p/1490248/highlight/true#M21767" target="_blank">https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/The-2-1-2-18-nightmare/m-p/1490248/highlight/true#M21767</A></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="539844"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>I too was for weeks on&nbsp;<SPAN>v2.1.3.4 with zero issues.&nbsp; Then during the day yesterday I lost internet connection. I logged into the webUI and noticed that only two of my three satellites got upgraded&nbsp;to v2.1.4.10. &nbsp;The lone satellite that was on 2.1.3.4 effectively brought down my whole network. &nbsp;NETGEAR STOP AUTO UPDATES...I was planning on updating myself on the weekend but the autoupdate FORCED me to do a whole ORBI reset after what was already a long day at work. &nbsp;To be safe I reset the router and all 3 satellites and hopefully my system will be stable for awhile (until the next auto update).</SPAN></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P><SPAN>GIVE ME A GUI CHECKBOX TO TURN OFF AUTO UPDATES.</SPAN></P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 15:39:38 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559239#M29333FURRYe382018-04-26T15:39:38ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559249#M29336
<P>No, I don't think so. At least not until Netgear puts this process into their user manual or blesses the steps officially. God only knows what has changed since this amazing client figured out what the Netgear internal fields/values were. I, and most of the folks having problems, have done enough beta testing for Netgear.</P>
<P>I sandbox OS updates and make sure they are solid, on my own time. I sandbox work-related program updates and make sure they are solid, on my own time.</P>
<P>I can only hope that Netgear figures out what they've broken and eventually fixes it. Until HomeKit and Auto Update are addressed, my Orbi system will be gathering dust.</P>
<P>I'm back to my ASUS 'network' (after 8 months of this excrement) until I see HomeKit, and Auto Update, addressed in the release notes.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<P><SPAN>GIVE ME A GUI CHECKBOX TO TURN OFF AUTO UPDATES.</SPAN></P>
</BLOCKQUOTE>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 15:53:21 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559249#M29336usahale2018-04-26T15:53:21ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559258#M29340
<P>Good Luck.</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="597521"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>No, I don't think so. At least not until Netgear puts this process into their user manual or blesses the steps officially. God only knows what has changed since this amazing client figured out what the Netgear internal fields/values were. I, and most of the folks having problems, have done enough beta testing for Netgear.</P>
<P>I sandbox OS updates and make sure they are solid, on my own time. I sandbox work-related program updates and make sure they are solid, on my own time.</P>
<P>I can only hope that Netgear figures out what they've broken and eventually fixes it. Until HomeKit and Auto Update are addressed, my Orbi system will be gathering dust.</P>
<P>I'm back to my ASUS 'network' (after 8 months of this excrement) until I see HomeKit, and Auto Update, addressed in the release notes.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<P><SPAN>GIVE ME A GUI CHECKBOX TO TURN OFF AUTO UPDATES.</SPAN></P>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 16:11:56 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559258#M29340FURRYe382018-04-26T16:11:56ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559267#M29347
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="519673"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>Got the&nbsp;&nbsp;2.1.4 update through the web GUI.&nbsp; Took just a few minutes and all appears to be in order.&nbsp; No factory reset.&nbsp; Wish me well.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>May the force be with us all...............</P>
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<P>well that was fun.....18 hours after the FW upgrade and we're dead in the water.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Costco here we come..........................</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 16:28:57 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559267#M29347Retired_Member2018-04-26T16:28:57ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559280#M29351
<P>Dear Mr. Netgear:</P>
<P>Orbi is supposed to be a consumer product.&nbsp; I'm a consumer not a IT professional.&nbsp; Telnet, Putty is not the solution for a consumer product. Orbi RBK50 is not listed on the netgear website under business prodcuts.&nbsp; Please give us a check box</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 16:42:12 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559280#M29351WAP2018-04-26T16:42:12ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559295#M29352
<P>RED FLAG: v2.1.4.1.0</P>
<P>I've owned an ORBI RBR50 and three BRS50's for 4 months.&nbsp; I regularly read all the posts in this forum.&nbsp; Between v2.1.2.18 and v2.1.3.4 I've had a very solid system for 4 months (I have uverse gigafiber...I always get 400 Mbps up and down with my iphone 7 using Speedtest app).&nbsp; I've had v2.1.4.10 installed for two days and it has now gone <U>completely offline twice</U>.&nbsp; After the first crash two days ago I did exactly what the moderator is telling everyone (load new firmware/use paperclip to reset router and satellites, disable daisy chain, MIMU, fast roaming etc..., I forced wifi channel 1 rather than auto), I use the RBR50 in access point mode (mapped to the same static IP that I've been using for 4 months).&nbsp; I haven't added any new clients (we are all apple house, other than a wifi sprinkler and Lenovo laptop, no cameras).&nbsp; Don't do VPN and other more advanced stuff.&nbsp; v2.1.4.1.0 is broken.&nbsp; For the last four months I've&nbsp;had one BRS50 connected wirelessly to the RBR50 and the other two RBS50 have been connected via ethernet.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>•Based upon the release notes for <SPAN>v2.1.4.1.0</SPAN>&nbsp;should I convert one of my two ethernet RBRS50's from ethernet to wifi? (the third BRBS50 is too far away to connect via wifi...it will have to remain ethernet)?</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Literally the day of&nbsp;<SPAN>v2.1.4.1.0 auto install was the first orbi failure I've ever had.&nbsp; After the complete reset with&nbsp;v2.1.4.1.0 this is the second failure I've ever had.&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 17:11:14 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559295#M29352WAP2018-04-26T17:11:14ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559299#M29353
<P>I have RBK50 with 3 RBS30 Satellites. Previous 2.1.3.4&nbsp;firmware worked almost ok after hard reset both router and satellites except no or very slow response from Homekit devices.</P>
<P>This new 2.1.4.10 is unstable even after hard reset, losing devices, Homekit doesn’t seems to work.</P>
<P>It would be nice to have check box for Autoupdate option.</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 17:16:13 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559299#M29353gertg2018-04-26T17:16:13ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559310#M29354
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="539844"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>Dear Mr. Netgear:</P>
<P>Orbi is supposed to be a consumer product.&nbsp; I'm a consumer not a IT professional.&nbsp; Telnet, Putty is not the solution for a consumer product. Orbi RBK50 is not listed on the netgear website under business prodcuts.&nbsp; Please give us a check box</P>
<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>ditto</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 17:56:06 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559310#M29354taohat2018-04-26T17:56:06ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559333#M29356
<P>ETHERNET BACKHAUL WILL CRASH THE SYSTEM!</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Disable Daisy chain and do not use ethernet backhaul even on 1 satellite.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Funny how Netgear force the update so we can do all the troubleshooting for them. &nbsp;I'm curious to see if the update was only pushed through to users who registered it as a 'HOME' product and not a 'BUSINESS' product.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Clearly forcing the update to some users will allow them to test the stability of THEIR&nbsp;firmware on OUR&nbsp;time.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>PATHETIC</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 17:58:45 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559333#M29356Yamamoto2018-04-26T17:58:45ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559338#M29357
Whyyyyyy!!!! My rbk53 olus (hardwired rbr50) took a **bleep** from last night! Been over 12 hours connection issues!! I probably power cycled , hard reset 10 times this stupid firmware is pissing me off and Netgear is aswell! Garbage honestly they try to fix couple issues they create other issues!! Whyyy did I update whyyy!!! Netgear doesn’t know what they are doing some workers need to be FIRED ASAP!!!!!!Thu, 26 Apr 2018 18:09:05 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559338#M29357Sevo1232018-04-26T18:09:05ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559369#M29361
<P>Upgraded from 2.1.3.4 last night and everything has been more stable for me. Not really any issues before, but sometimes slow connections to Leviton Homekit switches. Since the upgrade everything has been much snappier.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>I am sorry that there are so many problems for most of the posters.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>My system in the Costco AC3000 set. 32 devices attached, all Apple except for one Amazon Button that someone snuck into the house. No ethernet backhaul, not a daisey chain because of locations used. 2 stories and 3700 sq. ft. All Wemo devices and a Lacrosse weather station show as connected on the 2.4 bandwidth (no seperation in SSID between bands) The router is in AP mode and all stationary devices have fixed ip's.</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 18:58:43 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559369#M293614boys2018-04-26T18:58:43ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559472#M29379
<P>This morning the system updated and never came back online! App can't conect with system even after full reboot.</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 21:52:03 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559472#M29379drsg642018-04-26T21:52:03ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559476#M29380
<P>Do you have access to the routers web page via wired PC or wireless PC/laptop?</P>
<P>Whats the Mfr and model of the ISP modem the routers connected too?</P>
<P>Do you have Satellilte(s) connected? Wireless or wired backhaul?</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Try powering down both Obri router, sattelllite and ISP modem for 1 minute. Power up the ISP modem first and let it sync. Then power ON the router. If you get a BLUE LED or it goes from White to OFF, check router web page access then internet access with a PC/laptop. If it's working here, turn ON the Satellite and let it sync and check it's Top LED Color. Hopefully White, Blue then OFF.&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="605646"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>This morning the system updated and never came back online! App can't conect with system even after full reboot.</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 21:56:46 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559476#M29380FURRYe382018-04-26T21:56:46ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559481#M29381
<P>All my gear is Netgear, the router is a CM1000 and im runing a one gig network. Right now everything is unpluged till i can figure out whats wrong.</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 22:03:19 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559481#M29381drsg642018-04-26T22:03:19ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559483#M29382
<P>Also I have no access to network, not with the app or PC.&nbsp;</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 22:05:46 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559483#M29382drsg642018-04-26T22:05:46ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559485#M29383
<P><SPAN>Power up the ISP modem first and let it sync. Then power ON the router. If you get a BLUE LED or it goes from White to OFF, check router web page access then internet access with a PC/laptop.</SPAN></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P><SPAN>Let us know if you get anything here...</SPAN></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="605646"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>Also I have no access to network, not with the app or PC.&nbsp;</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 22:07:22 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559485#M29383FURRYe382018-04-26T22:07:22ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559498#M29384
<P>Netgear, I would like to inform you that beta version OrbiOS 2.1.3.6 is working flowlessly on my particular RBK30 system but sometimes it's acts up. &nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>But After announcing the OrbiOS 2.1.4 will beta testers be able to upgrade automatically or able to manually upgrade to stable release???&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Does OrbiOS 2.1.4 will include major fixes and improvement from Beta OrbiOS 2.1.3.6???&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Netgear please release the final release notes of stable OrbiOS 2.1.4???&nbsp;</P>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 22:57:49 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559498#M29384sohammistry952018-04-26T22:57:49ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559515#M29386
Recent firmware upgrade-no problem<BR /><BR />RBR 50 and 3 satellitesFri, 27 Apr 2018 00:16:12 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559515#M29386Acerun2018-04-27T00:16:12ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559532#M29390
<P>Hi,&nbsp; &nbsp; running&nbsp;<SPAN>RBR50 (with V2.1.4.10) &amp; 2&nbsp;RBS50 (V2.1.4.10) .&nbsp; </SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN>since last nights firmware update, my network is dead. rebooting the router &amp; Satellites dont help .&nbsp; searching this forum i see there is some issue with wired backhauls on v2.1.4.10( which i use on both of my satilites)&nbsp; .&nbsp; ive allready tried resetting the router &amp; Satellites back to default . then as soon as i bring 1&nbsp;Satellite with the wired backhual up, it crashes evrything .&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P><SPAN>im going to try going wireless on the backhaul , but this does not give me the best performacnce .&nbsp; &nbsp;can someone tell me if im&nbsp;missing something ?</SPAN></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P><SPAN>thanks</SPAN></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 27 Apr 2018 01:04:37 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559532#M29390yoot6782018-04-27T01:04:37ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559539#M29392
<P>With 3 satellites (1 wifi, 2 ethernet) on 2.1.4 I wasn't able to keep the system up for more than 3 or 4 hours (even after a full reset from scratch). &nbsp;I've only been using 2 satellites (both wifi) for 14 hours and no issues. &nbsp;In my opinion 2.1.4 broke wired backhaul. &nbsp;Going to run on two satellites (wifi) thru the weekend. &nbsp;If it stays up for the weekend I will plug the 3rd satellite back in (with ethernet). &nbsp;Will give progress update after weekend.</P>Fri, 27 Apr 2018 01:47:50 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559539#M29392WAP2018-04-27T01:47:50ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559540#M29393
<P>After setting up one satellite via wireless backaul, then connecting the ethernet cable between the router and the satellite, how long are you waiting before checking the connection? 5 minutes in needed for the system to reconfigure the wired back haul. Are you seeing BLUE LED on the top of the satellite give time after the ethernet cable is connected?</P>
<P>Any network switches in between the router and satellite?&nbsp;</P>
<P>Connecting 1 Satellite at a time?&nbsp;</P>
<P>Disable Daisy Chain on the router before connecting the ethernet cable?</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="605707"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>Hi,&nbsp; &nbsp; running&nbsp;<SPAN>RBR50 (with V2.1.4.10) &amp; 2&nbsp;RBS50 (V2.1.4.10) .&nbsp; </SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN>since last nights firmware update, my network is dead. rebooting the router &amp; Satellites dont help .&nbsp; searching this forum i see there is some issue with wired backhauls on v2.1.4.10( which i use on both of my satilites)&nbsp; .&nbsp; ive allready tried resetting the router &amp; Satellites back to default . then as soon as i bring 1&nbsp;Satellite with the wired backhual up, it crashes evrything .&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P><SPAN>im going to try going wireless on the backhaul , but this does not give me the best performacnce .&nbsp; &nbsp;can someone tell me if im&nbsp;missing something ?</SPAN></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P><SPAN>thanks</SPAN></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 27 Apr 2018 01:49:24 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559540#M29393FURRYe382018-04-27T01:49:24ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559541#M29394
<P>Disable Daisy Chain on the router?&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="539844"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>With 3 satellites (1 wifi, 2 ethernet) on 2.1.4 I wasn't able to keep the system up for more than 3 or 4 hours (even after a full reset from scratch). &nbsp;I've only been using 2 satellites (both wifi) for 14 hours and no issues. &nbsp;In my opinion 2.1.4 broke wired backhaul. &nbsp;Going to run on two satellites (wifi) thru the weekend. &nbsp;If it stays up for the weekend I will plug the 3rd satellite back in (with ethernet). &nbsp;Will give progress update after weekend.</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 27 Apr 2018 01:50:42 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559541#M29394FURRYe382018-04-27T01:50:42ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559547#M29396
<P>seems like wifi backhaul on both satlites&nbsp; did the trick . seems stable for now .&nbsp; ive been fighting with this all evenening , so ill wait a bit before trying the wired backhaul again .&nbsp; &amp; now that i think about it, i do have an unmanged swith between 1 of the satilte (wasnt a problem before) .&nbsp;&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 27 Apr 2018 02:00:44 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559547#M29396yoot6782018-04-27T02:00:44ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559571#M29401
<P>after having sucsess swithing to wifi backhaul ,&nbsp; figured id try 1 satilite with a wired connection . plugged in the ethernet &amp; rebooted the satilite . after a couple of minutes the network became unresponsive ( wired &amp; wireless devices lost network &amp; internet access)&nbsp; . i waited close to 10 min then unplugged the ethernet &amp; rebooted all the devices.&nbsp; evreyhting came back up &amp; seems stable.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;how can i let netgear know wired backhaul is broken ?</P>Fri, 27 Apr 2018 02:56:17 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559571#M29401yoot6782018-04-27T02:56:17ZRe: OrbiOS 2.1.4 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559581#M29403
<P>reply to furrye88:</P>
<P>full reset</P>
<P>everything that I can think of is disabled and has been for months.</P>
<P>the following is disabled:</P>
<P>daisy</P>
<P>beamforming</P>
<P>mimu</P>
<P>fast roaming</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>I'm in AP mode and have selected channel 1 for wifi. &nbsp;Been working great until the latest firmware from two days ago. &nbsp;Been up for 16 hours now but not using ethernet backhaul for satellites. &nbsp;</P>Fri, 27 Apr 2018 03:37:27 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-availability/m-p/1559581#M29403WAP2018-04-27T03:37:27Z