OT: Pacquiao Marquez 4

Pacquiao-Marquez getting under way right now, I guess I'll watch, hoping for Pacman to win so that there is no longer any excuse for Pacquiao or Mayweather to keep ducking each other...though you know they will keep ducking.

Floyd is a pathetic excuse for a person but he may be the best fighter I've ever seen... And I've seen them all (assuming there's video anyway). Manny was never in his league and he's a naturally smaller man to boot.

I've never thought he would take out Mayweather, and the Mayweather/Marquez fight pretty much showed everyone everything you needed to know. His legacy will just be the Marquez boughts (well, I guess the "Mexican killer" phase of his career more generally), and I would atleast be intrigued by them meeting up again. We'll find out if anyone else is in the next couple of months I would assume.

At this stage of their respective careers, Mayweather has not yet started to lose his edge but Pacquiao clearly has...fwiw, this is two straight losses for Manny. Mayweather would beat him soundly for 10 rounds and then Pac would go out.

The guy who makes the commercials and gets the product endorsements right before the heavily-promoted fight gets knocked on his face.

Manny should have taken the money that was available for a fight with Mayweather 2 or 3 years ago. He still would have gotten his ass kicked, but he would have gotten the biggest payday in his life. Even if he does now agree to fight Mayweather, the money he'll get will be just a fraction of what he could have gotten.

Figure a 50/50 split in 2010 with the madatory drug testing that Pacquiao refused...would have generated about $50 to $60 million per fighter/camp

Now, you can't do that fight once, unless Mayweather just utterly destroyed him (quite likely but even Floyd in Vegas vs. Pacquiao would have been looking at 115-113 cards or something similar.

They could have manufactured another fight, same monies (more or less).

Now, due to his promoting himself and basically contracting services with Golden Boy Mayweather keeps a lot more than Pacquiao as a percentage. That leech Bob Arum keeps a sizeable amount for himself.

I suspect that Arum's motivation was probably, as you say, to protect Pacquiao's "legacy" by fighting the Timothy Bradleys and JMM's of the world. Guys that, literally in JMM's case, Mayweather dominated. Plainly, this strategy left a lot of money on the table and rather than cement Pacquiao's legacy, has virtually destroyed it.