Woman As Aggressor: The Unspoken Truth Of Domestic Violence

I approach this writing with some trepidation because it will run counter in some areas to the current debate regarding domestic violence. When wading in these highly volatile and controversial waters, one finds that disclaimers – like life jackets – must be affixed to the body of the argument.

Incidents of domestic violence against women occur every 15 seconds in the U.S.

Add to those glaring examples of epidemic-like violence against women figures college/university campus date rape statistics, the high rates of sexual assault in South Africa, the Save Our Girls campaign in Nigeria, and the list could go on and on. Yet, although violence against women and girls includes domestic violence, not all domestic violence features women and girls as the victims. Sometimes, the woman is the abuser.

Let me be clear, the hesitance in speaking about female-initiated domestic violence is rooted in a very real concern about what the discussion can give way to: a dismissal and abnegation of the actual dangers women face. That, however, fails to be a compelling reason not to discuss the role of women in domestic violence. For example, an honest discussion about Israel’s occupation of Palestine need not devolve into anti-Semitism. Neither does a hard look at real terrorism, perpetrated by entities such as the Islamic State, have to degenerate into Islamophobia. So, conversely, a sincere critique regarding the totality of domestic violence does not have to be reduced to a capitulation to misogyny and sexist insensitivity.

Female-initiated domestic abuse

Women are three times more likely to be killed or seriously injured by their male counterpart than vice versa. Though those numbers suggest a more dire need, they do not connote that women are completely innocent when it comes to domestic violence.

More than 830,000 men fall victim to domestic violence every year. A man is the victim of domestic abuse every 37.8 seconds in America. These numbers are not inconsequential and the frequency is far from insignificant.

Jan Brown, executive director and founder of the Domestic Abuse Helpline for Men, stated that “domestic violence is not about size, gender, or strength. It’s about abuse, control, and power, and getting out of dangerous situations and getting help, whether you are a woman being abused, or a man.”

In 2001, the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health collected data about the health of a nationally representative sample of 14,322 individuals between the ages of 18 and 28. The study also asked subjects to answer questions about romantic or sexual relationships in which they had engaged during the previous five years and whether those relationships had involved violence.

From this information researchers found that of the 18,761 relationships, 76 percent were non-violent and 24 percent were violent. Of the 24 percent that were violent, half had been reciprocal and half had not — reciprocal meaning there was violence inflicted by both partners. Although more men than women (53 percent versus 49 percent) had experienced nonreciprocal violent relationships, more women than men (52 percent versus 47 percent) had taken part in ones involving reciprocal violence.

This statistic was undoubtedly the most striking: in committing acts of domestic violence, more women than men (25 percent versus 11 percent) were responsible. In fact, in the 71 percent of nonreciprocal partner violence instances, the instigator was the woman. This flies in the face of the long-held belief that female aggression in a relationship is most often predicated on self-defense.

Further, while injury was more likely when violence was perpetrated by men, in relationships that featured reciprocal violence men were injured more often (25 percent of the time) than women (20 percent of the time).

The Department of Psychology at California State University, Long Beach, compiled a bibliography that examined 286 scholarly investigations, 221 empirical studies and 65 reviews and/or analyses demonstrating that which we are reluctant to discuss — the uncomfortable reality that women are as physically aggressive, or even more so, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners.

Let’s put this into perspective: a significant amount of the findings regarding male-as-victim intimate partner violence came about as the result of studies and surveys that were aimed at understanding domestic violence against women. These are not studies conducted by rabid anti-women men’s groups or right-wing think tanks. They were conducted by organizations like the Centers for Disease Control, National Institutes of Health, the American Sociological Association, Psychology of Women Quarterly and the American Journal of Public Health, to name a few.

And yet, these numbers prompt a resounding backlash. Accusations such as “You’re saying abused women are asking for it,” or “You’re blaming the victim,” get hurled. No person — female or male — is asking for it, and no victim — female or male — should be blamed for what is done to them. I’m merely broadening the definitions of abuser and victim.

If we are serious about addressing domestic violence, then we must deal with all of the incarnations of the realities of domestic violence.

Mixed messages

This writer does not pretend to have all the answers when it comes to this issue, but this can be said with a great deal of certitude: Confusing the very people one is trying to affect is not a sound strategy for change. If only one person in the relationship is supposed to exercise control, if both partners are not equally responsible for keeping a relationship respectful and free of violence, we will have succeeded in changing nothing.

In recent months we’ve seen that the NFL has a confused policy in regard to domestic violence. For quite some time we’ve known that our court system has had a confused policy about domestic abuse. Their confusion reflects our societal misunderstanding of domestic violence and our muddled perceptions about gender.

Men are told in one breath to shed their machismo and sexist leanings, and in the next they are told to “man up” and take the blows dealt to them by their female partners. Men are being told that phrases like, “You throw like a girl,” or “You hit like a girl,” have chauvinistic underpinnings, while simultaneously being told, “It doesn’t matter if she hits you because, essentially, she hits like a girl and you can handle it, big boy.” So, while we recognize there’s often a difference in the physical impact between male and females hitting each other, we completely disregard the emotional and psychological impacts — and often even the physical harm — of a woman hitting a man, whether it be with her hands, feet or objects.

Just as we have done with women, we are trapping men in certain gender-based stereotypical straightjackets. This leads to two very important questions that are rarely asked: Is a woman ever responsible for a physical altercation that takes place between her and her male partner? Does a man ever have the right to tell a woman to not put her hands on him and expect her to respect that? Statistical and anecdotal data says the first question is barely acknowledged, and the second is treated by and large as an April Fools joke.

The same protocols that are used to address domestic violence against women are used to handle domestic violence against men, and the research tells us that the same abusive behaviors and tactics demonstrated by men (physical, verbal and emotional threats and intimidation) are also demonstrated by women. And the fear and shame that is felt as a result of being abused, as well as the excuses made to cover up the abuse, are not gender-specific. Additionally, some researchers estimate that about 20 percent of men who call law enforcement to report an abusive spouse or partner, are, in turn, arrested for domestic abuse.

There are signs, at least in the health care field, that these perceptions about men being the victims of intimate partner violence are beginning to change. The world-renowned Mayo Clinic has posted helpful information for men who have been victims of domestic violence. (I have practically lived at Mayo this year and can attest that the same questions that were once asked only of women in regard to domestic violence, are now being asked of men with great frequency.)

Child abuse

Courtesy of recent revelations surrounding NFL players, child abuse — another form of domestic violence — is also grabbing headlines. According to child welfare studies, mothers are almost twice as likely to be directly involved in child maltreatment as fathers. Mothers are more likely to abuse or neglect their children than fathers. I agree with those who say these numbers are as such because women are usually more involved with their children, and as single-parent homes are on the rise and women are increasingly the single parent, they become over-represented in the numbers on child abuse.

Interestingly, when former Minnesota Viking and NFL Hall of Famer Cris Carter spoke of being a victim of child abuse, he revealed that it was his mother who was the abuser. His central point about child abuse was well-received, but the fact that his mother was his abuser was either largely ignored or thought to have been of no consequence.

Meanwhile, one could also say that black males are over-represented in terms of homicide rates for various reasons (poverty, unemployment, education, etc), but the reasons why they are killed don’t make them any less dead than any other homicide victim. So it is with child abuse: The reasons why women are over-represented in the crime of child abuse does not make a child any less abused. And these abused children, half of which are male, live with that pain and become adults. As men, they are told to not talk about their pain or acknowledge that a woman hurt them.

“Man up. Don’t cry,” we tell them. And in doing so, we create the perfect conditions for a toxic relationship: men who can’t verbalize their very real pain and an ethos that says women can’t really hurt or traumatize men.

Is a woman every bit as capable as a man?

In terms of domestic violence and/or intimate partner violence, the conversation is, overwhelmingly, about what we need to talk about with our men and boys. This writer agrees: We need to talk to our boys and men about having respect for their partners in their relationships. Yet, that’s only part of the problem. Our girls and young ladies need to be taught what appropriate behavior is and what non-violent conflict resolution looks like.

We are paying the price for not having this conversation with our daughters because over the past 20 years or so we have been experiencing a disturbing trend. Meda Chesney-Lind points to this in her essay “Are Girls Closing the Gender Gap in Violence?”:

“Between 1989 and 1998, arrests of girls increased 50.3 percent, compared to only 16.5 percent for boys, according to the FBI’s 1999 report, Crime in the United States 1998. During that same period, arrests of girls for serious violent offenses increased by 64.3 percent and arrests of girls for ‘other assaults’ increased an astonishing 125.4 percent. In 1999, the Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention reported that the female violent crime rate for 1997 was 103 percent above the 1981 rate, compared to a 27 percent increase for males, prompting the statement that increasing juvenile female arrests and the involvement of girls in at-risk and delinquent behavior has been a pervasive trend across the United States.”

A later report further stated that by 2000, that proportion had grown to 18 percent, and by 2004 it had risen to 30 percent. Although arrest numbers remained higher for boys than girls during that period, arrest rates for girls increased as that for boys decreased.

The voices in our world that cry out for greater protections for women against sexual assault, human trafficking and spousal and/or intimate partner homicide must be heard. But we are taught by our mores, ideologies and politics that we can only recognize one reality at a time. If we talk about female-initiated domestic violence, then it takes away from addressing violence against women. Further, we worry that writings such as these only serve as distractions, smoke-screens and misdirections.

I don’t believe that. I believe that we have an equal stake and an equal responsibility in making sure our relationships are healthy. I believe that we all have an equal right to not be assaulted or have our personal space disrespected. By bringing this largely unknown and very uncomfortable truth to light, it means we are serious about addressing violence — not just domestic violence — and its causes and effects.

“Is a woman every bit as capable as a man?” We are constantly answering the question across this country in our mayoral and gubernatorial elections and in our House and Senate races, and 2016 tempts us with that question in a national general election. Granted, not all elections and appointments come down to gender, but we have been able to see woman as CEOs, as leaders, and maybe soon we’ll even get to see woman as commander in chief. That equality, though, also demands that we be able to entertain the thought of women as aggressors.

The views expressed in this article are the author’s own and do not necessarily reflect Mint Press News editorial policy.

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Abuse is abuse, regardless whether or not it’s a man or woman. When people see a woman hitting a man without provocation they get all confused. It’s REALLY not that complicated. You hit someone unjustly, you’re the agressor. There are simple ways to analyze whether it was just or not. If a woman hits a man, and some sort of damage results, then give the fella some help and punish the woman? How f***ing hard is this stuff for people? It isn’t rocket science!

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Your statement would never hold up if the person hitting/abusing was male and the other was female, no one would be talking “nuance and context”. This is a tragedy! Many homes are affected by really violent women who seemingly have ‘all the cards’ in their hands – and know it – and justify their behavior in one way or another. intimate partner is affected, kids (when present) are affected, but no one really wants to discuss it because in the end it will all be made to look like she was justified and the male was either at fault or too weak for his own good! Women are generally way more experienced at evoking sympathy from society and friends, for incidents of IPV or emotional/psych abuse and know how to play to the gallery for such support even when they may be the instigators or in the wrong. This is extremely rare for males. I’m NOT saying 90%, 95%, 98% of abuse cases are not afflicting women! Just saying that in the 2%, 5%, or more of cases where males are the victim, there is not much sympathy, support, or even ‘legal fallback’ without the man destroying their reputation (yet they may be the victim). It is herein that I often am confused as to if females truly have agency (and are responsible for their behavior) as taught us, or if this is just a convenient fiction for use and discard as appropriate. I am sure a politically charged and agenda driven person will try to reiterate the magnitude of the discrepancy in female abuse percentage rates, but this is not about ratios; it’s about what to do with woman on male abuse! I for one would like to know what the predictors are, what type of childhood experiences lead to this (if any), do “mean girls” become abusive women? Do father-figure issues, lead to abusive women? Is there a gene for violence or pleasure from violence? I literally see pleasure on the face of a person I know when they are being abusive! What is that feeding!? How can you be happy or satisfied to cause pain in another’s life?

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I had a look at the study and noted a couple of things:
“Some have suggested that survey studies, such as this one, likely exclude the more severely abused women typically studied in clinical settings”, and, “An important caveat to these findings is that we do not know the extent or severity of the injuries reported, only that they were reported to have occurred.” .. The study did not include violence where a knife, gun, choking or burning was involved, which certainly skews figures.

Also, the study only focused on frequency of violence and excluded injury severity and whether medical attention was needed or sought. Although I’m not underplaying the damaging effects of emotional violence, but surely a study on violence that doesn’t include guns, knives, choking, and injuries resulting in hospitalisation is not making accurate claims that women are just as, or more, violent than men.

Really interesting, the most violent by far were white males and females with college degrees.

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False. Are Men and Women Equally as Likely to Be Victims or Offenders?

The National Family Violence Survey (NFVS) found nearly equal rates of assault (11–12 percent) by an intimate partner among both men and women. If so-called “minor” violence such as pushing and shoving is excluded, the rate is around 3 percent — more than twice the rate found in NVAWS.

NIJ researchers have found, however, that collecting various types of counts from men and women does not yield an accurate understanding of battering and serious injury occurring from intimate partner violence. National surveys supported by NIJ, CDC, and BJS that examine more serious assaults do not support the conclusion of similar rates of male and female spousal assaults. These surveys are conducted within a safety or crime context and clearly find more partner abuse by men against women.

For example, NVAWS found that women are significantly more likely than men to report being victims of intimate partner violence whether it is rape, physical assault, or stalking and whether the timeframe is the person’s lifetime or the previous 12 months. NCVS found that about 85 percent of victimizations by intimate partners in 1998 were against women.

The studies that find that women abuse men equally or even more than men abuse women are based on data compiled through the Conflict Tactics Scale (CTS), a survey tool developed in the 1970s. CTS may not be appropriate for intimate partner violence research because it does not measure control, coercion, or the motives for conflict tactics; it also leaves out sexual assault and violence by ex-spouses or partners and does not determine who initiated the violence.

****A review of the research found that violence is instrumental in maintaining control and that more than 90 percent of “systematic, persistent, and injurious” violence is perpetrated by men.****

Yes. Men tend to “count coup” but rarely look at the context and have little idea of nuance. One of the telling factors is fear. As Margaret Attwood has said,

“Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.”

Of the men who are survivors of violence, how much of it was part of their partner’s coercive control? how much was part of a regular cycle of violence that perpetuated the aggressor’s power and control over them? how many were actually in fear for their lives? On the last one, indeed, how many men simply laughed or mocked their female “aggressor” but still considered her actions violence?

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The idea that women are too “weak and feeble” to do terrible things, is equally sexist as saying they’re too “weak and feeble” to do positive things as well.

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They’re both two sides of the same sexist coin.

Jenni Lee

Are Men and Women Equally as Likely to Be Victims or Offenders?

The National Family Violence Survey (NFVS) found nearly equal rates of assault (11–12 percent) by an intimate partner among both men and women. If so-called “minor” violence such as pushing and shoving is excluded, the rate is around 3 percent — more than twice the rate found in NVAWS.

NIJ researchers have found, however, that collecting various types of counts from men and women does not yield an accurate understanding of battering and serious injury occurring from intimate partner violence. National surveys supported by NIJ, CDC, and BJS that examine more serious assaults do not support the conclusion of similar rates of male and female spousal assaults. These surveys are conducted within a safety or crime context and clearly find more partner abuse by men against women.

For example, NVAWS found that women are significantly more likely than men to report being victims of intimate partner violence whether it is rape, physical assault, or stalking and whether the timeframe is the person’s lifetime or the previous 12 months. NCVS found that about 85 percent of victimizations by intimate partners in 1998 were against women.

The studies that find that women abuse men equally or even more than men abuse women are based on data compiled through the Conflict Tactics Scale (CTS), a survey tool developed in the 1970s. CTS may not be appropriate for intimate partner violence research because it does not measure control, coercion, or the motives for conflict tactics; it also leaves out sexual assault and violence by ex-spouses or partners and does not determine who initiated the violence.

****A review of the research found that violence is instrumental in maintaining control and that more than 90 percent of “systematic, persistent, and injurious” violence is perpetrated by men.****

“Women are equally capable, except when it comes to abuse. Then you just let them rape and abuse any kid, that comes their way, without consequence.”

“Women are too ‘weak, feeble, and pure’, to do terrible things to people”.

That’s pretty much what you advocate, for right?

If so, you’re a monster, and a sexist.

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Women can not be leaders if they do not have equal accountability.

You want to live in a world where women are not equally accountable for men for their actions?

Fine.

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But then say goodbye to a woman president.

Say goodbye to a woman in any sort of leadership position.

Leadership is impossible without accountability.

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If women are viewed as being too “weak and feeble” to have equal accountability to men.

Then…welcome to the 1950’s.

Hope you enjoy your stay.

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3/4 of the women who “hit” the man did it in self-defense after being physically abused first. A man would hit any man who physically attacked him, wouldn’t he? And the study found more men are likely to press charges against their female partners than women against men. Plus men are not in fear for their lives since they are usually larger, stronger and more confident than their female partners. If men feel so badly when they find themselves victims of females then they should understand how females feel. They should advocate against male violence and speak out against it since they know first hand how much it hurts.

NCY

did you read the article? Women are more likely to be the initiator of violence in reciprocal violence relationships. So no 3/4 of the women did not hit him in self defence.

PolybiusTestUnit

“Women are too weak and feeble to be abusive”.

You are an insane sexist a__hole.

Go back to the 1950’s where you belong.

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Without equal accountability, female leadership is impossible.

Is that truly what you advocate for?

A return to the 1950’s?

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Women, just like men abuse as a result of abuse. Violence is a learned behavior, I am struggling with this as we speak, every relationship I have ever been in has left me beaten and broken more so then the previous, as a child my mother beat me, to take her anger out on someone from her violent marriage, my father sexually abused me, at 15 I was so happy and full of life even after all of that.
I never thought that 18 years later I would have so much anger and fear towards men. My husband suffers from bipolar 1 and is very manic at times. He will harp on things, get very mentally and verbally abusive, then I go into to flight or fight mode, I have never been able to flee so I stand and fight. I love my husband ( I know every abuser says the same thing) I do everything I can to not resort to violence, he wont let me walk away. He walks away he leaves and runs off. I fear losing my whole world over and over again. So What do you do? You can’t get help because youll be labled. Charges maybe even.

Chintan Shah

YOur case may be unique as you mentioned that your violence is perpetuated because of reaction to your surroundings…but for these..
“In fact, in the 71 percent of nonreciprocal partner violence instances, the instigator was the woman. This flies in the face of the long-held belief that female aggression in a relationship is most often predicated on self-defense.”…It’s not the same as yours….
I feel that whoever is in power is more likely to abuse…till now men were dominant, powerful partners, so they abused…the power equation changes…the abuser changes…

women resort to violence out of fear for themselves. they can be provoked to it when no other peaceful option is able to stop or give them space. I think research into motivations for female aggression would likely find that male aggression and female aggression are motivated differently. while everyone wants non violent interventions and solutions… one thing is clyar. violence works….it’s fast and effective. if that was not true…..if it was just a moral question….you could reason with people to not use it. women resort to aggression when they believe they have too. the physical differences mean risk. women cam fight physically back too…but so what? it’s just violence. who wants all violence to stop, who advocates for respect, dignity etc? usually women. no….I know women do this. but I all into question whether it should be a women’s issue, cause it’s a human issue…violence in intimate relationships. well, now what? let’s not be confused. there is no virtuous victim or blamless perpetrator. in that cycle….those roles flip too. on that point…it’s jutt unhealthy and wrong. to stop the behaviour means stop behaviour and thinking add language that makes violence OK. good luck when it’s changing core beliefs. that requires willingness to change.

Canada, eh?

Women abuse men and same-sex partners because of a need for control. The motivation is the same, regardless of gender. To lessen that very basic concept is irresponsible.

Joe Stirling

Yeah, because a female care giver was threatened by a child. Of course they would attack and harm a child out of fear. Try again.

PolybiusTestUnit

“Women are too weak, feeble, and pure to do terrible things to people”

That’s what you’re saying, right?

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Maybe you’re saying that when a woman abuses someone, its somehow more justified.

So when women rape or torture children, those kids were obviously “asking for it”.

The knee jerk reaction to most violent acts against men such as slapping, throwing things, biting and even cutting (use your imagination) is surprise at best and laughter at worse. The fact that women in our society are usually the physically weaker of the sexes doesn’t mean that domestic violence can not happen both ways. Women, futhermore, based on being typically physically weaker, often use other ways to “get to a man” such as with psychological abuse e.g. insults about ability as a provider economically or sexually. This is an ongoing dilemma for many men victimized by women who engage in this behavior that is often supported by society thinking includinng advertisements and movies. Men thus fact two problems in such cases – a domestic violent abusive partner and a society that is less responsive to men than women in such cases. Though men are typically stronger and do more damage in domestic violence when they are involved, it must be considered that women may be part of a problem that is neglected in domestic violence incidence.

1. Women are in more danger from leaving an abusive relationship than men are, and are less likely to report abuse as a result, believing they will just get into more trouble if they do. (They’re right.)

2. The government is counting transwomen as women. How many of these women abusing men are actually women? Because transwomen aren’t, and they have the same rates of violent behavior that men do, since they are men themselves.

3. Males are better equipped to leave a relationship and in general are physically hurt less in abusive situations where a female (not transwoman) is the abuser. Plus you make more money as far as median nationwide income, so it’s easier to start over.

4. A woman hitting you back when you abuse her is not an act of abuse. If you don’t want her to hit you back, don’t hit her to start with.

Anyone being an abuser is bad, but the reason we get so upset about men beating women is because it so often results in permanent injury or death. If you have two lots next to one another and one has a house on it that’s ablaze with children on the second floor and the other lot has a teensy little grass fire going on, which house do you think the firefighters will visit first?

Theodore Fenton

Judging from your photo, the chance of you having a “relationship” that lasts more than 5 minutes is about zero. Men don’t hurt women like you, they shoot their load, then flee quickly. It’s always ugly lonely women who whine about “abuse” because you hate all men.

The Young Fool

Oh what a giveaway Theodore! They shoot their load and flee quickly. But not before they batter their partner verbally and emotionally, huh? Insulting their looks and denigrating their character. Shame shame shame on you Teddy!

thushjz

I know from experience what you’re saying is not always true, I was in a marriage where my glasses were broken twice (on my face), was hit with fists, doors,Hot tea thrown on me, computers destroyed… and cops came to the house called by my wife and after interviewing us both said to ME when do you want to file charges?

Randall Nelson

when talking about these abuses, women get virtually 100% of the representation. If this was under represented than I’d be fully on your side. But the point of this article is about how when men suffer no one speaks up, even less so if its the woman doing the crime.

Plus, how do we know the truth when social stigma’s prevent men from speaking up; especially when the aggressor is a female. Progressive movements have pushed female issues to the front stage and left men in the 1940s. We need to work on both issues, equal protection.

Right now women have a lot of impunity when it comes to abuse, and that needs to change. Watch any movie that has a woman smack a guy and it’s almost always a good thing. Flip that around and watch the uproar, even if she experienced no more harm than the man did. Does he not deserve the same respect she demands?

No one, reasonable, is trying to diminish female issues. Just trying to get away from woman=good man=bad. Teaching that to our kids is only going to cause more pain. No boy should have to suffer your battle of the sexes.

“Plus you make more money as far as median nationwide income, so it’s easier to start over” I want to address this just for a second. Just because most of the privileged class are males tells you NOTHING about what the average man makes. Most homeless are men as well, so that should tell you something about privilege. If you had a choice of your gender, but new nothing about the type of person you’d be or the time you’d live. It might not be wise to choose male, you’d have much much higher risk of suicide, incarceration, homelessness, being drafted, dying in war, genetic defects, working a dangerous and deadly job, as well as lower life span. Sure you’d have lower risk of rape, but how much lower. Until men start talking more openly about these things, and society accepts this, we actually won’t know.

Actually Dana, none of your points are correct. The difference is the perception of men as perpetrators and women as victims.

There is a massive amount of stigma around men being abused. They’re ridiculed for it and very unlikely to be believed when they come forwards. There have been so many cases when a man has reported being abused he has been arrested and forced to go on an anger management course because as a society we are not willing to see men as vulnerable. He must have provoked her…

Do we know whether more men or more women suffer from intimate parter violence without reporting it? No, it’s unreported so it’s impossible to know. This should be obvious!

As for your third point. Men tend to stay in abusive relationships for the same reason women do. For example, when there are children involved they stay to protect their children. Single mothers are the most frequent abusers of children and no loving father would accept their child becoming a punch bag in his place.

Secondly, if the man is married, he knows he could be financially ruined if he leaves. Women have all the cards up their sleeves when it comes to divorce courts. All they have to do is make an accusation and she gets everything, he leaves with nothing.

Thirdly, abusive partners (whether male or female) are incredibly manipulative and chip away at their partners confidence until there’s no will to even resist anymore.

Your forth point is interesting because if you reverse the genders, you’d actually be giving great advise because in 70% of male on female IPV the female hits first. If you want to stop women getting hit, you should teach them not to hit men first. It’s not smart. Men are physically stronger and women bruise more easily. If you don’t hit a man he’s very unlikely to hit you. Of course, in reality very few men hit women anyway because it’s ingrained in our culture that a man should never hit a woman. Women no this and that’s why they provoke men, they think they can get away with it and by and large, they do.

Steve

Well stated. I also had problems with some of her points. I think men and women are both physically obviously but also very psychologically different in the way our society has evolved and reinforced patterns of behavior from advertisement and the movies to concepts such as chivalry and beliefs of the church. This is a complicated topic but definitely one that is valid considering the problem in our society. One issue that is underplayed is the role of psychological abuse in inciting men who are often victimized more easily than women in this regard that increases the risk of their responding with violence. Its a relationship bullying that goes on all the time.

The Young Fool

3/4 of women arrested for battery are simply self defending against males hitting them first. ARe you saying women are not allowed to defend themselves now?

M.S.1

WRONG: generally, when women are victims, it’s because they initiated violence, and the male then responds: [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/glenn-sacks/researcher-says-womens-in_b_222746.html]

This response is why it’s so hard to have this discussion and make some progress. Rather than addressing the points that are brought up, the response is a reassertion that “no, it’s worse for women.” But the conversation has to go beyond a scorecard of who has it tougher.

We can’t set up a false analogy of 2 fires side-by-side. For the man/men who are your “teensy little grass fire” what they’re going through is real, and you’re suggesting that they don’t deserve ANY help until the “real” fire is under control. Life doesn’t work like that.

Robert Jones

So many god damn hypocrites on this subject….and throughout all of politics…UGH.

Steve

Abuse is abuse. The major point of the article is that men are abused more often than previously thought and that psychological abuse is a factor that has not been considered enough.

While what you say with number 1 may be true i believe, i do not see any statistics that support number 2 and even if that is the case, domestic violence is unde-reported towards men and on the rise. Look it up. Number 3 is debatable as women often have more community resources to help them start over than men and society is generally more sympathetic towards helping women than men. Number 4 is off base in my opinion. If you think a women hitting back is excusable if hit first then you must say the same for a man if he is hit first. Abuse is abuse. Furthermore, the man or woman “hitting back” may escalate into picking up a knife or gun. In the case of children they only see their parents fighting.

You are right in your last statement about the fires so consider that if the abuse is equal then its equally bad for a woman or a man to engage in domestic violence. It is something that should not occur but it evolves in relationships in different ways. Consider that there may be psychological provocation toward a man by a woman that increases the likeliness of violence. That is typically a tactic used more often by women than by men. As you say, “if you don’t want her to hit you don’t hit her to start” but remember if a woman doesn’t want to be hit her chances are improved if she doesn’t psychologically provoke a man.

ray allen

Regarding Point 4 – my ex-wife used to attack me with knives and screwdrivers, so my disarming her to keep her from hurting me was not ‘hitting her back’.

As far as income is concerned, I worked every hour of overtime that I could get in order to pay my ex-wife’s debts before being ordered to pay only half of my net income as ‘child support’ to my voluntarily unemployed ex-wife, so I question your blanket statement that men are better equipped financially to leave a relationship and your implication that men do not suffer financially from divorce.

I’m also aware that I stayed in my marriage far longer than I should have, but I was doing my best to protect my children from my ex-wife. IF I would have had a realistic chance to get custody, I would have left sooner, but my lawyers warnings about my local family courts preference for sole maternal custody and the courts willingness to believe a woman’s false accusations of abuse without question proved to be true.

Last note – even Erin Pizzey (who founded the first domestic violence shelter in England) noted in her book that significant numbers of women initiate domestic violence, and that some relationships were ones where mutual combat was the norm.

Robert Jones

How do you know? Where are your citations?

M.S.1

[Picture related] regarding your misandrist post.

Ravi Subba

Hilarious ! and yet a FACT.

slimtrimtim

sorry, but the facts are 1. men are less likely to report being the victim of abuse because of social stigma and police are less likely to treat it with seriousness. that is the fact.
2. the government? i don’t think you know what you’re talking about. indeed, this statement is not only bizarre, it is essentially meaningless. but once again you are in your default position of: men, bad. women, not bad. your bias is showing.
3. you actually have no grounds to make a sweeping generalization that men are more equipped to leave. the dynamics of abusive relationships are complex and you are not in a position to abstract from your own preconceived notions blanket boilerplate about men and their agency.
4. you are actually so misguided that to disabuse you of your fallacious reasoning would take too long. but let me just say: people involved in interpersonal relationships hitting back and forth are in an abusive situation PERIOD.
you seem to be rationalizing something here. perhaps it is your own pattern of behavior. who knows.

>1. Women are in more danger from leaving an abusive relationship than men are, and are less likely to report abuse as a result, believing they will just get into more trouble if they do. (They’re right.)

WRONG- There are now 1,500 shelters for battered women in the United States. There were once TWO shelters for men, now there are none.
In the UK, there are between 2000 and 500 shelters for women (numbers vary greatly), and only 5 for men.
In Australia, there are over 300 shelters for women, and NOT ONE DV SHELTER for men.
The few shelters that DO exist for men, usually cater to the homeless or mentally ill, and are therefore totally unsuitable for men trying to get themselves (and possibly their children) away from an abusive spouse. They also receive very limited public funding in comparison to women’s shelters, and are actually chronically starved of funds.

In any case it is MEN who are less likely to report abuse, and when they do, not only are they likely going to be laughed at or ignored, they may well be punished for it:

Of the abused men who called domestic violence hotlines, 64% were told that they “only helped women.” In 32% of the cases, the abused men were referred to batterers’ programs. Another 25% were given a phone number to call that turned out to be a batterers’ program. A little over a quarter of them were given a reference to a local program that helped. Sixteen percent said the people at the hot line “dismissed or made fun of them.”https://nationalparentsorganization.org/blog/3977-researcher-what-hap-3977

>since they are men themselves.
Again, you’re not only wrong, you’re transphobic and incrediby misandrist and sexist to boot.

>3. Males are better equipped to leave a relationship and
Incorrect. As shown in my response to your very first point, to be a man and leave a relationship is to leave it alone and empty-handed, with no help or assistance of any sort. Most importantly, you’d be eaving your kids behind, and even if you didn’t, the state would step in and hand them to the mother in the majority of cases, regardless of her abusiveness.

>in general are physically hurt less in abusive situations where a female (not transwoman) is the abuser.
Dead wrong, as shown in my response above and in these official and peer-reviewed studies:

>Plus you make more money as far as median nationwide income, so it’s easier to start over.
Oh, the old wage gap meme. Well, not only is that misleading and false, but also if you wanted to earn the same amount as a man you’d do the same job.

>4. A woman hitting you back when you abuse her is not an act of abuse. If you don’t want her to hit you back, don’t hit her to start with.
Here, let’s flip the genders on that:
“A man hitting you back when you abuse him is not an act of abuse. If you don’t want him to hit you back, don’t hit him to start with.”

You should not hit a man (or woman) IN THE FIRST PLACE. If a man upsets you to the point you decide to hit him, you deserve being hit because you have just attacked him and he is defending himself. DON’T HIT MEN OR WOMEN YOU ABUSIVE MONSTER, DANA!
And studies have CLEARLY shown that women are perpetrators at least as often as men. -> http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/V75-Straus-09.pdf

>Anyone being an abuser is bad,
But apparently men are the only truly evil ones????

>the reason we get so upset about men beating women is because it so often results in permanent injury or death.
[citation needed] and that’s obviously not true. If it was, then there would be a large percentage of abused women who would either die or be permanently crippled, and such injuries are not in the majority of cases. You’re trying to lie, Dana, and doing a poor job of it.

>If you have two lots next to one another and one has a house on it that’s ablaze with children on the second floor and the other lot has a teensy little grass fire going on, which house do you think the firefighters will visit first?
Actually, the empty one, so they can set up their equipment to rescue the kids. And nice using of children as emotional imagery t sway your point. I guess you had to, because you know you have no arguent to make.

The person _least_ likely to suffer a domestic violence attack is a gay man.

“Women commit twice as much unprovoked Domestic Violence as men”
“Women are responsible for over two-thirds of non-reciprocal Domestic Violence”
“Lesbian couples have the highest rate of violence, followed by heterosexual relationship and gay male couples have the lowest rate of violence.”http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pic/articles/PMC1854883/

Do we even need to go into how the person most likey to murder a child is it’s own mother? Because I have proof of that too.

STOP BEING VIOLENT, DANA!

The Young Fool

Oh please 3/4 of the women who hit are simply self defending in response to men hitting first. Are you saying that women are not allowed to defend themselves? And what about the size and strength differences? Muhammed Ali would never be allowed to fight a bantam weight without being arrested. And they’ve found that men are more like to press charges against their victims than vice versa (poor babies). And if it’s so bad for the men then why aren’t they advocating against male batterers since they know how horrible and painful being beat up is? Maybe men would listen to other men.

M.S.1

First of all, thank you for your response, and allow me to congratulate you on your name, “The Young Fool”. Very fitting, at least based on your reply to me.

“3/4 of the women who hit are simply self defending in response to men hitting first” – Dead wrong on that one, the actual number is more like one-third according to actual experts (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/glenn-sacks/researcher-says-womens-in_b_222746.html) – in addition, not only are there multiple personal stories in this very thread proving you wrong, there’s over 300 peer-reviewed scientific studies that I referenced in my post proving that it is _women_ who are more often violent in interpersonal relationships. Also remember that when women kill their partners there was (and is in many places) an established defence called “battered women’s syndrome”, where she claims that she’s been abused, and therefore gets away scot-free with murder. No such defence ever existed for men.

“Are you saying that women are not allowed to defend themselves?” If it is ACTUAL self-defence than of course not, but thanks for trying to insinuate that I approve of spousal abuse, I guess, since you can’t actually make a real argument to back your point.

“And what about the size and strength differences? Muhammed Ali would never be allowed to fight a bantam weight without being arrested.”
Funny how men are taught from childhood to ‘never hit a girl’, yet the reverse is not taught to women. If a woman throws an item at their male partner, this gets defined as her being “upset”. If a man throws an item at their female partner, this is defined as him being “angry” and “abusive”, and he is defined as a woman-beater. You know those sitcoms and punchlines that are chock-full of women screaming at men, slapping them, giving them the silent treatment, forcing them to sleep on the couch, etc.? Hello- all of those examples are domestic violence, the damage of which will last a lifetime, especially in children that witness such behavior. I also point out that it is more often women who pick up a weapon to use on their partner, such as a knife, etc. However, they will rarely get arrested, and even if arrested, they are unlikely to be punished as much (or at all, if they claim it was self-defence).
Here’s a little exposition of how gender bias works in sentencing, and how it benefits females:https://www.law.umich.edu/newsandinfo/features/Pages/starr_gender_disparities.aspxhttp://www.terry.uga.edu/~mustard/sentencing.pdf

“And they’ve found that men are more like to press charges against their victims than vice versa (poor babies).” [citation needed] and I love your throwaway passive aggressive comment at the end. So mature. If anything, the gender bias in the model used for response to DV (the Duluth model) practically guarantees police will ignore any wrongdoing done by the female and arrest the man, even if in some cases it is impossible for him to have been the violent person. This would actually explain the need to press charges where the Police is too busy being a “white knight” and refusing to arrest the criminally violent female.

“And if it’s so bad for the men then why aren’t they advocating against male batterers since they know how horrible and painful being beat up is? Maybe men would listen to other men.”
Considering that it’s women who are the problem the majority of the time yet men get blamed and demonized, what would you suggest? Perhaps for the first time ever, the women who should stop talking and listen to the men.

Self defence is important, at what point can a man decide to not take another hit and deliver a few of his own? Are we not allowed to defend ourselves? If so, go tell the police & courts, oh and the rest of society.

mystazsea

Awesome work M.S.1 you saved me the trouble of rebutting her….Also it should be noted that It estimated that 0.3 percent of the population identify as Transgender…So the actual percentage added to womens statistics is already far less than 1% and if you further adjust for transwomen only the rate would be even less..less than 0.3 % …her argument is completely debunked…Well done sir for being so Professional in your rebuttal to her completely invalid and unscientific arguments.

It is the kind of misinformation that people like Dana spread that is muddying the waters on these important issues..You will notice that Dana presented no evidence at all for her statements…Not a single piece of documentation or research..only ambiguous statements. She also downplays violence against men as not as important as womens..Which is exactly what this article was talking about. Its pretty clear to see exactly what kind of abuser Dana is..

Objectivity

That is a lot of justification for what you seem to agree with. Is it right? Should it be this way? All we know is that you realize the reasons for the lack of equality in the system, but instead of stating it’s wrong and should be changed, you sadly justify it, just as those in the 50s did for segregation. So if we see inequality, justification appears to only passively agree with it, even though our entire society screams “equality” out of the other side of their mouth.
So rather than justify inequality, how about we confront it and wipe it out. It is the only way we get there.

Mgmue mgmu

Girls gain a big set of balls when they realize that a man will not hit them & they have free reign. Men are taught as boys not to hit girls, girls are taught boys are not to hit girls, girls learn they can get away with murder. A boy the same size as a girl would never physically confront a man of much greater size, and learns this at a young age. Women never learn this lesson.

In fact, a trans woman is probably more likely to be abused than you are:

“According to the CDC, 46% of bisexual women have been raped, compared to 13% of lesbians and 17% of heterosexual women. Another study found that more than 25% of transgender
individuals had been sexually assaulted after the age of 13.”

the ‘interesting’ thing is… it’s WOMEN WHO ARE DOING 98% OF THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING ALSO… do your research people… the little parasites games are over. time to see the gender for what it really is… a companion – OR A PROBLEM. do not save them from themselves. not your job, eh? and they do not care about help – they just WANT. LQQK around. Today’s women = twisted excuse laden parasitic gestators… and all because some hoe wanted to be POTUS and not get busted for all the problems they have caused. Better get some balls men.

NS Citizen

Another idiot comment.

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The Young Fool

Human trafficking? In little victimized boys such as you Christopher? What a joke. Like OJ being the “battered husband,” huh?

M.S.1

30% of all UN-member countries worldwide were analyzed, and it found that women made up the majority of human traffickers.
That’s nearly 1/3 of the world surveyed; a very large peer group, and thus safe to say it’s representative of the world in its entirety.

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This is incredible!! I still imagine how Dr Ekpiku brought my husband back to me in just 48hours.. No one could have ever made me believe that this testimony would actually one day be written by me. I never believed in magic spells, but I was told by a trustworthy source (a very close co-worker) that Dr Ekpiku is a gifted spell caster, My love life was in total mess after my husband dumped me for another woman. I had been through two divorces and was on the brink of a third. but my husband didn’t seem to care. This man is for REAL. He did whatever magic he does, and lo and behold, no more than 48 hours later, I had my husband back! It was like a miracle! and now he has loved me more than ever..Thank you so much Dr Ekpiku for your Love and for reuniting my family back sir. His Email: Ekpikuspelltemple@live.com

Moreau Gzenaelle

How to restore a broken relationship

Unlike the movies we see ,every relationship does not always have a happy ever after. Something or factors are always there to bring down the relationship you have given your all. It can be as a result of dishonesty, failing finance , misunderstanding , job requirement and so on. It take more that a lot to save a failing relationship take it from i have been there. Now i know a few ways that can help restore a failing relationship i am going to work it down form the top to the last ultimate way i know.

Understanding

Understanding is one way to restore a failing relationship.But as easy as it sounds, it is the hardest task to accomplish.Why is this? let see. In a relationship no one likes to be that person that never get heard like he or she does not exist. Men feel like everything he say or do is right because they are men and they think they need to always be in charge because men are the heard and women feel like they need to be heard and their opinion matters a lot. If they both can not balance this i do not see any hope for that relationship because after so many fight resulting from misunderstanding they will call it the end.

Stable Finance

This is mostly for the men. It is important to have a stable finance because a lot of bad things can happen due to financial trouble. Even if your spouse choose to stay with you through the troubled time you might just see yourself as the fault and before you know little things and talk about money leads to fight and as you know the relationship falls. But stable finance can only restore a failing relationship to an extent before some other factor kicks in.

Couple Counseling

This for a very long time has been the the last terminal point of almost all couple before the final fall.Here the relationship are either restored or destroyed.Couple Counseling has recorded a high amount of success over the years but does not ensure that the relationship will stay strong for a very long time.Studies show that most of the relationships saved by counseling experience a positive change for a maximum of 3 to 5 years before failing again and some just do not even experience any change. I am not saying couple counseling does not work i am just saying, it does not really ensure a long lasting relationship.

Love Spell

To me this is the only way that ensures you and that someone you love will always be together just as they promised you. My marriage had its own trouble bigger than counseling, Understanding and all the things a relationship is built upon the only thing that worked for me was the spell Metodo Acamu did for me. It was the only help that i seeked that actually worked for me that is why i am saying it the Ultimate.My friend who advised me to contact a spell caster has stayed married to her husband for ten year and some months now because of the love spell Metodo Acamu did for her.I cannot talk about mine because its just been two months now.I you want to save your your relationship contact the spell caster with this email metodacamufortressx@(yahoo). com correct to the normal way email address are written…..

CatalinaC

Reading about spell is not new to anyone who uses the internet frequently.More accurately, most of us depend greatly on the internet for information’s and ways to fix things.It can be relationship related, or finance related or any kind of problem you can think of.So in all words we try everything we read to fix it which might just include spell casting.I know this sounds crazy but believe me spell casting is just as real as any other thing you can think of. It just turned out that the internet is flooded with a lot of fake making it is very difficult to separate the “shaft from the wheat” fake from real so here are five reason that i think will convince positively about spell casting

Empirical Evidence
Even before any of us reading this article was brought into exist those before us and before them and before those before them relied on spell for healing, protection, blessing and all other thing and guess what? they never complained about the failure maybe because there where no fakes then or those who asked the spell casters help completed the process rather that not seeing it through to the end.

Paranormal That Science Can’t Explain
A lot supernatural thing happens around us.We are either too blind to see it or we just let science explain it for us.We think anything that science can’t explain is left to be thought as nothing.

Testimonies
There are a lot of those all over the internet.Yes, we can say not all are true but yet again, we can’t say that they are all not true because we can never be sure unless we go through the complete process that is required form us.

My Testimony
A lot of you reading this might say am sick or crazy or what ever you may please just describe how discontent you are with this article but am glad even one has his or her right to their personal opinion which this is.It can only be understood by those who see reasons with me.I was in a messed up situation and the only help i could get was from a spell caster and if i have to, will seek their help all over again because even if we refuse to believe,this world is bigger that what our eyes can see and what our senses can feel.

Faith
Even if this sounds religious, it will interest you to know that it is not religious because contrarily to what we all know, Magic or sorcery or spell making has nothing to do with religion its more like the understanding of deep nature that goes beyond what we see and what we feel.If it is right to believe that the earth rotates because some man made telescope tell us so,why is it wrong to believe magic sorcery or spells let us gain access to deep mother nature when nature expose itself everyday.

This is not meant for everyone to read but if you do,and you want a spell caster find one carefully ans wish i would advice you contact Metodo Acamu with this OK metodoacamufortressx at (yahoo) dot com *** use this in the usual email format just like your own email format***..

Ed Wallace

It should not be so hard to write the truth in any country but saying that women can be domestically violent is almost a crime in America. Excellent article.

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Was this comment really necessary? Are people, really this facepalmed?

Vivian Adam

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begged him with everything even with the name of our kinds,made promises but he refused. I explained my problem to someone online and she suggested that I should rather contact a spell caster that could help me cast a spell to bring
our marriage back but I am the type that never believed in spell, I had no choice than to try it, I mailed the spell caster, and he told me there was no problem that everything will be okay before four days, that my husband will return to me before four days, he cast the spell and surprisingly in the second day, it was around 4pm. My husband called me, I was so surprised, I answered the call and all he says was that he was so sorry for everything that happened, that he is very very sorry for the pains he has put me and with our kinds, that he wanted us to return to him, that he loves us so much. I was so happy and went to him with our kinds, that was how we started living togethe happily again as one family, Since then I have
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Anders

Here is what we never talk about: having digested the initially shocking news that at least half of domestic violence is perpetrated by females, I think we would still be justified to see male on female violence as the larger problem (though of course NOT the only problem). Here is why: women have never learned, like men have from childhood, that hitting the opposite gender is wrong. In fact, it is even encouraged in popular culture. It is, perhaps, a way of expressing emotion, safe in the comfort that they will not end up on the wrong end of the moral code. And yes, as we have all seen, the general public will go to great lengths to justify female violence (maybe he cheated on her?), while condemning even the smallest hint of male on female violence.

As a result, a man hitting a woman is much more likely to have crossed the psychological boundary that separates normal human behavior from psychopathy. Hitting a woman is an absolute last resort, an expression of frustration so deep that the person has taken leave of his desire to belong to society. Such a man is, of course, much more likely to be dangerous than a woman slapping her husband in frustration. And, as research shows us, light violence is mostly female perpetrated; severe violence mostly male (but far from all – around a third of spousal homicide victims are male).

Having said that, our continued ignorance and unwillingness to act on female-perpetrated domestic violence is disgraceful. Think about it. Who would lobby for it? How vulnerable would that person be? It is not a coincidence that most lobbyists on domestic violence towards men are female. But even a gynocentric approach should see the value in changing these parameters: I suspect that a significant percentage of male-perpetrated violence comes as a result of longer periods of sanctioned, lighter female-perpetrated violence.

Jay Henriksen

Your comment is ridiculous. There certainly is some truth to it, but it does not lend to female violence being the bigger issue. How many male on female attacks are really female on male attacks that happened over and over until the man finally snapped? When is enough enough? I know first hand just how abusive women use their female gender as a protective shield and feel it entitles them to any level of abuse they choose to give out without repercussion. I’ve been spit on, punched in my chest, had soda cans thrown at my head, causing bleeding welts, etc. The only time I ever reciprocated was when a punch was thrown at my face and I caught her wrist. I left marks on her arm from where I grabbed her, midpunch. She proceeded to show people and claim abuse. When she did so with me home, and I overheard her, I interjected and said ” did you share how you swung at my face and i only grabbed your wrist to prevent you from connecting?”. She responded “so what, you’re a man and should be able to take a punch”. Her friend that she was sharing this with was not impressed…. Never heard her name spoken again.

After spitting on me repeatedly one night, she came out and said ” you like that? Just hit me already so I can have you arrested”. The next time she attacked me, I had her arrested and everyone labelled me “The Bad Guy” in her family. No one could comprehend how awful living like that was. It needed to end before I did lose control, at which point, I’d have been the abuser and her the victim, by your standards. I put up with it to try and provide a stable family environment for my son. It was obvious when doing it in front of him didn’t bother her that that was impossible.

Charlito Brown

I empathize with you because I’m going through similar things with my wife right now.

IRS

Bail, I left my gf of five years with whom I had a one year old with after she beat me repeatedly with closed fist punches. PPD kicked in after our child was born and the steak knives started getting pulled and thrust at me. After I took all the knives out of the house (except butter knives) I had to remove all pictures with glass on them because she would smash them and pick up broken glass and try to stab me with that. These situations prompted me to remove all internal door knobs in the house. She eventually left with our child unannounced when I told her I no longer wanted to continue the relationship. I ended up in jail for yelling at her when she would not give me my belongings that were in her new apartment when I was visiting our child. She admitted in court that she was the physically abusive party and that I never harmed her physically through the entirety of the relationship, she was then granted a two year no contact order.

Robert Jones

Please get in touch with me, if you can… I’d love to share your story… By the way, I’m Robert Jones.. I’m a freelance writer….and I’m on a mission.

Robert Jones

Psychopathy doesn’t even exist. PsychologyToday pumped out an article on it awhile back. The term “psychopath” was first used to describe someone, like “jerk”; an adjective.

Psychopathy is not recognized in the PCL-R. If you don’t know what this means, it’s pointless for me to explain it. Go read up on the entire thing. It’s a long read though….but it’s objective.

Scoan Healings

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“If we talk about female-initiated domestic violence, then it takes away from addressing violence against women.”
And if we don’t then it takes away from addressing the violence against women inflicted by other women. The same is true for rape.

1. Beat up children According to the US Department of Health and Human Services, women are more likely to abuse children than men. In Australia, “mothers carried out almost 68 per cent of cases of emotional and psychological abuse committed by parents, about 53 per cent of physical abuse and more than 94 per cent of neglect cases.” If you ever find yourself asking why there are so many violent people out there, you might want to start by looking at all those women beating up little children.

2. Pop pharmies According to the Center for Disease Control, one out of every three women aged 15-44 filled a prescription for narcotics in any given year. That is a lot of drugs, ladies. Women are 50% more likely than men to leave their doctor’s office clutching a little bag of legal drugs than men, even when they have the same condition. Popping oxycontin is classier than shooting heroin, but just as dangerous. Women are outpacing men in the percentage increases in deaths from overdosing on prescription medication.

3. Gang rape In 2010, the Center for Disease Control asked young men and women about sexual violence and 1 in 39 men admitted to taking part in a gang rape. 1 in 5 women said they took part in a gang rape, and no, not as victims. As perpetrators . Men and women carry out pretty much equal levels of sexual violence by the age of 18, but it looks like men have a lot of catching up to do when it comes to raping in a pack.

4. Stalk, attack and psychologically abuse a partner When criminologists as the University of Florida asked students about their relationship behaviors, they discovered that women were more likely to stalk, attack and psychologically abuse their partners than men. 32% of women admitted to physical violence against their partners, while just 24% of men reported the same. 58% of all the stalkers were women. Women are definitely stepping up their domestic violence game.

5. Cheat on a partner In a survey of 3000 people, 25% of women agreed they would be DTF if a new guy caught their eye. Just 9% of men agreed they would cheat on their partners. Could be that men just say one thing and do another, or it could be that a quarter of women think they’re excellent liars. Either way, that’s a lot of women ready to drop thongs for a new man.

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Joes Candra

I am joes candra, I promise to share this testimony all over the world once my boyfriend return back to me, and today with all due respect i want to thank DR.OSAUYI for bringing joy and happiness to my relationship and my family. I want to inform you all that there is a spell caster that is real and genuine. I never believed in any of these things until i loosed my boyfriend, I required help until i found a grate spell caster, And he cast a love spell for me, and he assured me that I will get my boyfriend back in two days after the spell has been cast. Three days later, my phone rang, and so shockingly, it was my boyfriend who has not called me for past 6 years now, and made an apology for the heart break, and told me that he is ready to be my back bone till the rest of his life with me. DR.OSAUYI released him up to know how much i loved and wanted him. And opened his eyes to picture how much we have share together. As I`m writing this testimony right now I`m the most happiest girl on earth and me and my boyfriend is living a happy life and our love is now stronger than how it were even before our break up. So that`s why I promised to share my testimony all over the universe.All thanks goes to DR.OSAUYI for the excessive work that he has done for me. Below is the email address in any situation you are undergoing a heart break, and I assure you that as he has done mine for me, he will definitely help you too. OSAUYILOVESPELL@YAHOO.COMOROSAUYILOVESPELL@OUTLOOK.COM that is his email address bye or you can call is hot line on +2347064294395 http://osauyilovespelll.webs.com/..

caston

, Hello everyone,who still cares about his/her ex-lover or having any other problem,I am Emily Erica, from Canada i never thought my ex will come back to me again,i am very happy at last that my ex-lover now my husband is back to me,who left me six months to our wedding just because of some little misunderstanding,But today we are married and we are expecting our little baby,i sincerely want to say thanks to OSAUYI for helping me cast the spell that brings him back to me,i am grateful and happier than ever before,Thank You Doctor for helping me, and if you are also having problem in your relationship or any part of life, you can also contact him and he will respond to you. email Goodluck OSAUYILOVESPELL@OUTLOOK.COM OR OSAUYILOVESPELL@YAHOO.COM YOU CAN CALL HIS CELL PHONE ON +2347064294395 http://osauyilovespelll.webs.com/…

Joes Candra

I am joes candra, I promise to share this testimony all over the world once my boyfriend return back to me, and today with all due respect i want to thank DR.OSAUYI for bringing joy and happiness to my relationship and my family. I want to inform you all that there is a spell caster that is real and genuine. I never believed in any of these things until i loosed my boyfriend, I required help until i found a grate spell caster, And he cast a love spell for me, and he assured me that I will get my boyfriend back in two days after the spell has been cast. Three days later, my phone rang, and so shockingly, it was my boyfriend who has not called me for past 6 years now, and made an apology for the heart break, and told me that he is ready to be my back bone till the rest of his life with me. DR.OSAUYI released him up to know how much i loved and wanted him. And opened his eyes to picture how much we have share together. As I`m writing this testimony right now I`m the most happiest girl on earth and me and my boyfriend is living a happy life and our love is now stronger than how it were even before our break up. So that`s why I promised to share my testimony all over the universe.All thanks goes to DR.OSAUYI for the excessive work that he has done for me. Below is the email address in any situation you are undergoing a heart break, and I assure you that as he has done mine for me, he will definitely help you too. OSAUYILOVESPELL@YAHOO.COMOROSAUYILOVESPELL@OUTLOOK.COM that is his email address bye or you can call is hot line on +2347064294395 http://osauyilovespelll.webs.com/

john

Spell caster? Give me a break. This is not a site for nonsense or for some fake doctor trying to get more patients through a spurious testimonial. There is no such thing as spells. If you are for real, it was a random event that your boyfriend came back and if I was your boyfriend, I would question your belief in this kind of nonsense.
On a further note, why is it mainly women who believe in psychics, tarot card readers, astrology, and new age “medicine”?

Steve

“Why is it mainly women who believe in psychics, tarot card readers, astrology, and new age ‘medicine’?”

That’s an excellent question and alludes to the reality that women are perhaps more prone toward emotional responses which may be linked to hormones but also it involves our society that promotes and propagates such behavior that often appears more dismissive to the eccentricities of women than men. It may also be why women are often given a pass more often than men in domestic violence cases.

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Are Men and Women Equally as Likely to Be Victims or Offenders?

The National Family Violence Survey (NFVS) found nearly equal rates of assault (11–12 percent) by an intimate partner among both men and women. If so-called “minor” violence such as pushing and shoving is excluded, the rate is around 3 percent — more than twice the rate found in NVAWS.

NIJ researchers have found, however, that collecting various types of counts from men and women does not yield an accurate understanding of battering and serious injury occurring from intimate partner violence. National surveys supported by NIJ, CDC, and BJS that examine more serious assaults do not support the conclusion of similar rates of male and female spousal assaults. These surveys are conducted within a safety or crime context and clearly find more partner abuse by men against women.

For example, NVAWS found that women are significantly more likely than men to report being victims of intimate partner violence whether it is rape, physical assault, or stalking and whether the timeframe is the person’s lifetime or the previous 12 months. NCVS found that about 85 percent of victimizations by intimate partners in 1998 were against women.

The studies that find that women abuse men equally or even more than men abuse women are based on data compiled through the Conflict Tactics Scale (CTS), a survey tool developed in the 1970s. CTS may not be appropriate for intimate partner violence research because it does not measure control, coercion, or the motives for conflict tactics; it also leaves out sexual assault and violence by ex-spouses or partners and does not determine who initiated the violence.

****A review of the research found that violence is instrumental in maintaining control and that more than 90 percent of “systematic, persistent, and injurious” violence is perpetrated by men.****

Do you know why there are less reports by men? Because they fear what they may face if they do report violence. Humans are social beings. They fear ostracization and isolation almost as much as they fear death. Men are not recieved well as abuse victims so they don’t report anything. They don’t tell ANYONE, because they see also see it as an issue of pride, which they’re taught they must maintain at all time. You saw it yourself in this article: 20% of men who report domestic assault are the ones who get arrested.

caston

, Hello everyone,who still cares about his/her ex-lover or having any other problem,I am Emily Erica, from Canada i never thought my ex will come back to me again,i am very happy at last that my ex-lover now my husband is back to me,who left me six months to our wedding just because of some little misunderstanding,But today we are married and we are expecting our little baby,i sincerely want to say thanks to OSAUYI for helping me cast the spell that brings him back to me,i am grateful and happier than ever before,Thank You Doctor for helping me, and if you are also having problem in your relationship or any part of life, you can also contact him and he will respond to you. email Goodluck OSAUYILOVESPELL@OUTLOOK.COM OR OSAUYILOVESPELL@YAHOO.COM YOU CAN CALL HIS CELL PHONE ON +2347064294395 http://osauyilovespelll.webs.com/.

lisa jerry

BULLY JANE, From USA I wish to share my testimonies with the World about what Dr Keke has just done for me ,This great man brought my lost Ex husband to me with his great spell within 24 hours. I was married to my husband JACK BULLY, we were together for a long time and we loved our self’s but when I was unable to give him a child for 2 years he left me and told me he can’t continue anymore then I was now looking for ways to get him back until a friend of mine told me about this man and gave his contact email (greatkekespelltemple@gmail.com) then you won’t believe this when I contacted this man on my problems he prepared and cast a very strong spell for me and bring my lost husband back within 24hrs, and after a month I missed my monthly period and went for a test and the result showed that i was pregnant. i am happy today am a mother of a baby girl, thank you once again the great Dr Keke for what you have done for me.Contact him on his private email greatkekespelltemple@gmail.com

Vic Doyle

“Please Help me and my 2 little girls. We are Victims of Domestic Violence. Most men would never admit that they are Victim of such abuse. But, I have had to struggle through 8 years of it. My now former wife despite the 3 independent charges against her got unsupervised probation and classes. She had to take regular urinalysis. She passed those tests for nearly 2 years using fake urine and was finally caught only after she was turned in independently for using fake urine. She violated her probation and now that goes back to court. Two weeks later, She also was rearrested on two more Domestic Violence charges where she assaulted two more males. My daughters do not need to be around this. The courts deemed to give her 50/50 custody with me. I’m the only stability my girls have. Due to my former wifes constant rearrests I have missed so much work and it has taken a financial and emotional toll on us. I have NO family support out here in Washington state to help watch the girls and her family is not helping. They continue to funnel money into getting their daughter out of trouble. I dont have money for a lawyer and have had to take leave of absence from my work in order to take care of my girls. I cant take any more time off. I need to be able to pay for a lawyer to get my girls out of this situation and move back to Indiana where I have parents and other family support and a job lined up. I’m desperate for help and dont have anywhere to turn. I’m asking for help to be able to pay for a lawyer to get my daughters away from their abusive mother who is still facing 5 charges of Domestic Violence in two separate cases, and keeps continuing her cases. My daughters deserve stability and I need to be able to get back to work. Lawyers cost more money than I have. I have tried to handle going to court and representing myself filing the paperwork myself but Washington courts keep telling me I have the wrong paperwork filed. My ex wife has the support of her well to do parents and I have been busy caring for my girls with no one to watch my children. I’m asking for donations to help to get a lawyer, and for moving expenses to get back to Indiana when I win full custody of my girls so they can have a stable life away from their abusive addicted Mother who is facing years in jail as it is. Please help us. We need a new start. I’ve struggled to do the best I can and this is my last resort, to ask for help. Its hard for me as a man to ask for that. But, I’m asking for my girls.”

, Hello everyone,who still cares about his/her ex-lover or having any other problem,I am Emily Erica, from Canada i never thought my ex will come back to me again,i am very happy at last that my ex-lover now my husband is back to me,who left me six months to our wedding just because of some little misunderstanding,But today we are married and we are expecting our little baby,i sincerely want to say thanks to OSAUYI for helping me cast the spell that brings him back to me,i am grateful and happier than ever before,Thank You Doctor for helping me, and if you are also having problem in your relationship or any part of life, you can also contact him and he will respond to you. email Goodluck OSAUYILOVESPELL@OUTLOOK.COM OR OSAUYILOVESPELL@YAHOO.COM YOU CAN CALL HIS CELL PHONE ON +2347064294395 http://osauyilovespelll.webs.com/

I think that domestic violence is more widespread regarding men than society knows about. I have a friend who is in his 60’s now. He was a victim of domestic violence for 20 years. Hi ex-wife beat him regularly. He ended up in hospital on many occasions. At first he dismissed the violent episodes as being her monthly problems but the angry outbursts happened nearly every day some weeks. One day he told me she really got very annoyed and hit him so hard with a frying pan he ended up in hospital with concussion and 25 stitches in his head poor man. When he came out he decided to get out of the relationship as he was afraid she would kill him. I asked him once why did you put up with it for so long I don’t really know he said she had many good qualities and I did love her. But her violent side and controlling nature I could not stand anymore. He remarried and is now very happy with her and he enjoys his life which I am glad about he deserves so happiness after such a bad life before.

ThomasMooree

Sometimes i ask myself, what really make those who claim to love you stay ? Is it the feel of protection, or the feeling that their money is enough to make someone endure their presence until it all blows away or the feeling of love, or is it all these wrapped in one big gift bag? I never got to know the answer to my question and i may never get the answer. You see, i had money or rather i can say i had enough to care for my ex wife now and my two kids and heaven know i gave my wife then all the love she needed from me in every way i can imagine or possibly give love. I gave my family protection, love and everything one can ever ask for in one big gift bag. Now speaking of my ex wife, i did the impossible to see she was happy all the time because i loved her so much that seeing her happy really makes me happy. But it seems to my ex wife money and the good life was everything and love, was nothing but an illusion. Some how in a way one thing leading to another i lost my job at J.P Morgan as an accountant and just like that my beautiful world of colors as i knew it, came down crashing on me. Being not in my youth and vibrant age it was so impossible to get a new job. No one wanted to heir someone like me i mean if it were me, i sure as he** wouldn’t heir me. They all needed a fresh young and updated version of me. After six months my bills started pilling up i was so late on my mortgage and every hard thing that happens when someone losses his job just as a finger snap was happening to me. My wife being my wife saw this and thought there was no way out and then she felt me filed for a divorce and wanted to take all i had left. The one thing that kept me from breaking just as i watched my life come to end. She wanted to take my girls from me and have them rised by her lover. This will be a very long tale if i start on how she got herself a new man off course with money and managed to make him fall for her just as i did so i will just skip that part. The fight for custody went on and i was going to loss in all ways because i had just lost my job and house was gone and i was diagnosed to be emotionally unstable. By some cosmic accident that i don’t even believe in, i found a witch doctor named Mutton Osun on the internet who out of desperation i contacted for help and somehow placed all my hope on and heave bless him, he lived up to his words. I poured on him my sorrows,I told him how i lost my job ,my wife and how i was about to lose my girls and he listened and comforted me via telephone. Speaking to Mutton Osun healed my heart and gave me hope again. Mutton Osun is a rear gem that can not be easily found. I wanted him to help me get back my job and win my girls custody battle. He asked me to get some materials which was going to be used to get a spell done to grant my request. I gave him the money to get the materials for me because it saved me a lot of expenses. After four day he sent me a package asking that i follow the instruction he left along with the package. I did all he asked of me and like a miracle i was called back to my job at J .P Morgan with them saying i have been given a second chance after six month? and just after the spell? it only explained on thing that the spell is at work and i won the custody case of my girls just as i asked. I should have asked for my wife back but no she caused me so much pain and every bit of love for her ,was dead. You reading should not just believe me. Contact Mutton Osun let him help you and your problem them you will believe all this is as real as it gets. Use this as contact godsofosunx @ roc ket mail. com

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stella kyes

I never believed in love spells or magic until I saw a testimony about one woman called Tiffany on the internet testifying about how a spell caster called DR KALA of (kalalovespell@gmail.com) bring back her ex husband who left her for another woman, and i decided to contact the man to give him a try. So when i contacted him he told me that he is going to bring my husband back to me that i should give him two days to do the casting of my spell which i did. I am out here to testify that what DR KALA did for me really work out good for me because I am really happy now with my husband because after i contacted DR KALA he promise to bring back my husband to me which he did. So i really don’t have much to say about this man but all i have to say is that DR KALA is really a powerful man and could help cast spells to bring back one’s gone, lost, misbehaving lover. I’m now happy and a living testimony because i am now leaving happily with my family. So if you need any of his help you can contact him via email KALALOVESPELL@GMAIL.COM

Jacob Eagleshield

All this ‘mama whatshername and chief spellcaster stuff has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
Domestic violence against men,perpetrated by omen,id growing. Question is why.
1) Many men,like me,were raised to believe that a man does not raise a hand in anger to a woman,no matter what.There ARE women out there(a small percentage to be sure) who will take advantage of that,seeing it as a sign of weakness in him.
2)Society and the law,scoffs at men who claim to be a victim,especially if their is a substantial size difference between him and her.
I was in an abusive marriage. I am six-six,my ex is five-three. She used to throw things at my head almost daily.
When I finally had enough,and called the law,the first thing the responding officer did(a female cop) was SNICKER
The officers first words to me were ‘What did YOU do to set her off?’ That is why so many of these incidents go unreported by men. Plus if it gets to court,the judge is of the same mindset. Just as society believes the myth that a woman is a better parent simply because she is female,it also cannot comprehend the idea of a violent woman.

Dizzy Alex

I never believed in love spells or magic until I saw a testimony about one woman called Tiffany on the internet testifying about how a spell caster called DR KALA of (kalalovespell@gmail.com) bring back her ex husband who left her for another woman, and i decided to contact the man to give him a try. So when i contacted him he told me that he is going to bring my husband back to me that i should give him two days to do the casting of my spell which i did. I am out here to testify that what DR KALA did for me really work out good for me because I am really happy now with my husband because after i contacted DR KALA he promise to bring back my husband to me which he did. So i really don’t have much to say about this man but all i have to say is that DR KALA is really a powerful man and could help cast spells to bring back one’s gone, lost, misbehaving lover. I’m now happy and a living testimony because i am now leaving happily with my family. So if you need any of his help you can contact him via email KALALOVESPELL@GMAIL.COM

Jesus

my ex girlfriend/baby mama has on numerous occasions threaten to call the police and deliberately lie to them to have me thrown in jail. i swear this is a true story. we were arguing and she blocked door which was my only exit (take note that my forearms are littered with scars from all the scratching she has inflicted on me) she had already threw something at me so i just wanted to get out because that is what they tell you to do right? they tell the man to just leave if it gets hectic or to take a walk away and thats what i tried doing. anyway, she was blocking my way i picked her up and set her aside (im pretty strong so i grabed her by her arms lifted her and bolted thru the door) long story short i came back from my walk 30 minutes later. the cop was waiting for me inside the apt. i didnt know he was there so i unlocked the door and went in and he ambushed me to the ground he didnt give me a chance to explain.(well he did but after i was in the squad car) charges were later dropped against me. but the thing that disturbed me the most was this. by the end of the six months that it takes for the court to try to convict you i was at my hearing yet again to prove my innocence when my public attorney pulled me away and suggestes i take a plea from the da and they would drop my charges from battery to a house hold member to simple battery (the punishment being a little less harsh then the other) she assured me that this was going to go to a jury trial and that this was my best bet. i looked at her straight in the eyes and said i will never admit to something i never did. five minutes later i was told my case was being dismissed. i could have ruined my life and reputation for fear of what a simple lie to the police can do. needles to say i walked away bitter and very disappointed in our justice system. amd funny thing is. she still wants me back. but being a single dad is wayyyyyyy less stressful and i dont have to worry about anyone using the police against me.

My name is joy and I base in USA…“My life is back!!! After 1 years of Broken marriage, my husband left me with two kids . I felt like my life was about to end i almost committed suicide, i was emotionally down for a very long time. Thanks to a spell caster called High Priest mama aluta which i met online. On one faithful day, as I was browsing through the internet,I came across allot of testimonies about this particular spell caster. Some people testified that he brought their Ex lover back, some testified that he restores womb,cure cancer,and other sickness, some testified that he can cast a spell to stop divorce and so on. i also come across one particular testimony,it was about a woman called Sonia,she testified about how he brought back her Ex lover in less than 7 days, and at the end of her testimony she dropped High Priest mama aluta ‘s e-mail address. After reading all these,I decided to give it a try. I contacted him via email and explained my problem to him. In just 3 days, my husband came back to me. We solved our issues, and we are even happier than before. High Priest mama aluta is really a gifted man and i will not stop publishing him because he is a wonderful man… If you have a problem and you are looking for a real and genuine spell caster to solve all your problems for you. Try High Priest mama aluta anytime, he might be the answer to your problems. Here’s his contact:{madodospelltemple@gmail.com}.

Hello i am Jacqueline Ashley ,from USA, I am out here to spreed this good news to the entire world on how i got my ex lover back.I was going crazy when my lover left me for another girl last month,But when i meet a friend that introduce me to Dr Agumagu the great messenger to the oracle that he serve,I narrated my problem to Dr Agumagu about how my ex lover left me and also how i needed to get a job in a very big company.He only said to me that i have come to the right place were i will be getting my heart desire without any side effect.He told me what i need to do,After it was been done,In the next 2 days,My lover called me on the phone and was saying sorry for living me before now and also in the next one week after my lover called me to be pleading for forgiveness,I was called for interview in my desired company were i needed to work as the managing director..I am so happy and overwhelmed that i have to tell this to the entire world to contact Dr Agumagu at the following email address and get all your problem solve..No problem is too big for him to solve..Contact him direct on: agumaguspelltemple@gmail.com or agumaguspelltemple@outlook.com and get your problems solve like me..here is my email address in case you need any question from me jacquelineshley@outlook.com

John

Stop feeding the hate troll please

Alexander

I do not believe that women are not capable of harming others. It is good to know that I am not the only one who believe thisalexander.@themissinglink.tk

Carole Heath

I quite agree Alexander my previous comment does verify this issue. I think that male domestic violence in many cases is hidden to a degree from society as it is still a stigma like mental illness. Society needs to address this issue and not think that men aren’t included in the scenario it isn’t just a women’s problem.

Honestly so sad and sensitive an issue. Remember we are protecting the weaker. And so far there has not been a woman president. It seems statistically men are still winning. One way or another. Bring what is happening at home to our attention and make arrests of men. And they make a change by arresting the woman. We need to wake up.

Roland Johnson

My Name is Roland Johnson

How my ex girlfriend came back to me through Dr Azuka love spell caster.

I Have never believer in love spell until i met this world’s top spell caster. He is really powerful and could help cast spell to bring back once’s gone,lost misbehaving lover and money spell or spell for a good job or whatever your problem is. I am a living testimony the man i wanted to marry left me a week before our wedding and my life was upside down because our relationship has been on for 3 years. I really love him, but her mother was against us because i was not financially boyant to take good care of them. So when i met the spell caster, I told him what happened and explain the situations of things to him. At first i was undecided,skeptical and doubtful but,i just gave him a try and in 2 days when i returned to USA, my girlfriend (now wife) called me by hermself and came to me apologizing that everything had been settled with her mum and family and i got a new job interview so we got marriage. I don’t believe it the spell caster asked me for my name and my wife’s name and that is all i wanted her to do. well we are married now and we are expecting the our baby,and my wife also got a new job and our lives became better. In case anyone needs the spell caster for help this is the email address Email:greatazukalovespell@yahoo.com or greatazukalovespell@hotmail.com tel:+2348071398555…

Roland Johnson

My Name is Roland Johnson

How my ex girlfriend came back to me through Dr Azuka love spell caster.

I Have never believer in love spell until i met this world’s top spell caster. He is really powerful and could help cast spell to bring back once’s gone,lost misbehaving lover and money spell or spell for a good job or whatever your problem is. I am a living testimony the girl i wanted to marry left me a week before our wedding and my life was upside down because our relationship has been on for 3 years. I really love her, but her mother was against us because i was not financially boyant to take good care of them. So when i met the spell caster, I told him what happened and explain the situations of things to him. At first i was undecided,skeptical and doubtful but,i just gave him a try and in 2 days when i returned to USA, my girlfriend (now wife) called me by hermself and came to me apologizing that everything had been settled with her mum and family and i got a new job interview so we got marriage. I don’t believe it the spell caster asked me for my name and my wife’s name and that is all i wanted her to do. well we are married now and we are expecting the our baby,and my wife also got a new job and our lives became better. In case anyone needs the spell caster for help this is the email address Email:greatazukalovespell@yahoo.com or greatazukalovespell@hotmail.com tel:+2348071398555…

J

I feel like the biggest shock about society is that we are still too busy comparing statistics to realise that there is still a noticeable increase of people getting arrested. I think maybe we should stop reducing it to how males do this and how many females do that and just realise that society has a huge problem if so many people are being arrested, and there is still an incerase

Adams Bella

My name is Adams Bella, i live and work in Oxfordshire, UK. My life is back!!! After 2 years of Broken marriage, my husband left me with two kids, I felt like ending it all, i almost committed suicide because he left us with nothing, i was emotionally down all this while. Thanks to a spell caster called Dr.Trust of Ultimate spell cast which i met online. On one faithful day, as I was browsing through the internet, I came across several of testimonies about this particular spell caster. Some people testified that he brought their Ex lover back, some testified that he restores womb,cure cancer,and other sickness, some testified that he can cast a spell to stop divorce and also spell to get a good paid job so on. He is amazing, i also come across one particular testimony, it was about a woman called Vera, she testified about how he brought back her Ex lover in less than 2 days, and at the end of her testimony she dropped his email.After reading all these, I decided to give it a try. I contacted him via email and explained my problem to him. In just 48hours, my husband came back to me. We resolved our issues, and we are even happier than ever.Dr.Trust you are a gifted man and i will not stop publishing him because he is a wonderful man. If you have a problem and you are looking for a real and genuine spell caster, Try him anytime, he is the answer to your problems. you can contact him on (Ultimatespellcast@gmail.com or Ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com) or call him +2348156885231. he is the best caster that can help you with your problems.

jessylynn harvey

..Hello, My name is
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because i have contacted so many other spell casters with no results.
when i read about Dr Keke Odin (The Chief Priest Of all the spell
casters in India) on his website at http://greatkekespelltemple01.webs.com
so i decided to contact him for help. to my greatest surprise, in just
24 hours later my Husband called me and started begging for forgiveness.
i am now a happy woman with a beautiful baby girl.all thanks to Dr Keke
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Tucker Stacey

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Santo Champion

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Gabella Suarez

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Hello, My name is
Jessylynn harvey. i want to share to the whole world on how Dr Keke Odin
the chief Priest of all the spell casters in India Helped me reunite my
marriage. To cut the long story shot, after 2 years of break up with my
Husband with no phone calls or email messages. i was so frustrated
because i have contacted so many other spell casters with no results.
when i read about Dr Keke Odin (The Chief Priest Of all the spell
casters in India) on his website at http://greatkekespelltemple01.webs.com
so i decided to contact him for help. to my greatest surprise, in just
24 hours later my Husband called me and started begging for forgiveness.
i am now a happy woman with a beautiful baby girl.all thanks to Dr Keke
Odin. You can contact Dr keke Odin On contact him directly on his email at greatkekespelltemple@gmail.com or contact him through his website at http://greatkekespelltemple01.webs.com. his help is assured and guaranteed once again email him directly at greatkekespelltemple@gmail.com

Cindy Ivan

I am Cindy Ivan from United Kingdom, Scotland, I did not believe in Love spell magic for i thought and believed it was not real until the day that my boyfriend left me for one Girl, I tried all my possible means to get him back to me but it all seems to be in vain, So one day i saw a testimony on the INTERNET about DR OVIA how he helped one Man to get his wife back, although i didn’t believe in love spell, i contacted him because i loved my Boyfriend and i want him back, So DR OVIA performed the love spell and told me to wait for just 12 hours which i did, So surprisingly, My Boyfriend sent me an apologizing Text and he started begging me, from that day, we became together and up till now, We are in love with each other like never before.. If you need any help, You can as well contact DR OVIA on this Valid Emails ( droviasolutioncenter@gmail.com or droviasolutioncenter@yahoo.com) You can also call him on +2348054049995 or contact him directly Via His Website http://droviasolutioncenter.webs.com/
My Regards…./

Cindy Ivan

I am Cindy Ivan from United Kingdom, Scotland, I did not believe in Love spell magic for i thought and believed it was not real until the day that my boyfriend left me for one Girl, I tried all my possible means to get him back to me but it all seems to be in vain, So one day i saw a testimony on the INTERNET about DR OVIA how he helped one Man to get his wife back, although i didn’t believe in love spell, i contacted him because i loved my Boyfriend and i want him back, So DR OVIA performed the love spell and told me to wait for just 12 hours which i did, So surprisingly, My Boyfriend sent me an apologizing Text and he started begging me, from that day, we became together and up till now, We are in love with each other like never before.. If you need any help, You can as well contact DR OVIA on this Valid Emails ( droviasolutioncenter@gmail.com or droviasolutioncenter@yahoo.com) You can also call him on +2348054049995 or contact him directly Via His Website http://droviasolutioncenter.webs.com/
My Regards…

Maris Jos

I am MARIS JOS from USA,i hear how people are talking about The powerful spell caster called DR TRUST in regard of how he bring back ex lover,winning lottery,getting pregnant and getting married to their dream true lover and i also contact him to help me cast a spell in regard of my ex lover whom i love so much that left me 2yrs ago,but today my ex is back to me and we are happily married with 3kids and i am so much happy for the help i found in you DR TRUST. I and my family are very much happy and we are living large now,i am grateful and appreciate your good work of spell casting,thank you and may you leave long to help people in problems His email is Ultimatespellcast@gmail.com or ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com call +2348156885231,..

Cindy Ivan

I am Cindy Ivan from United Kingdom, Scotland, I did not believe in Love spell magic for i thought and believed it was not real until the day that my boyfriend left me for one Girl, I tried all my possible means to get him back to me but it all seems to be in vain, So one day i saw a testimony on the INTERNET about DR OVIA how he helped one Man to get his wife back, although i didn’t believe in love spell, i contacted him because i loved my Boyfriend and i want him back, So DR OVIA performed the love spell and told me to wait for just 12 hours which i did, So surprisingly, My Boyfriend sent me an apologizing Text and he started begging me, from that day, we became together and up till now, We are in love with each other like never before.. If you need any help, You can as well contact DR OVIA on this Valid Emails ( droviasolutioncenter@gmail.com or droviasolutioncenter@yahoo.com) You can also call him on +2348054049995 or contact him directly Via His Website http://droviasolutioncenter.webs.com/
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Cindy Ivan

I am Cindy Ivan from United Kingdom, Scotland, I did not believe in Love spell magic for i thought and believed it was not real until the day that my boyfriend left me for one Girl, I tried all my possible means to get him back to me but it all seems to be in vain, So one day i saw a testimony on the INTERNET about DR OVIA how he helped one Man to get his wife back, although i didn’t believe in love spell, i contacted him because i loved my Boyfriend and i want him back, So DR OVIA performed the love spell and told me to wait for just 12 hours which i did, So surprisingly, My Boyfriend sent me an apologizing Text and he started begging me, from that day, we became together and up till now, We are in love with each other like never before.. If you need any help, You can as well contact DR OVIA on this Valid Emails ( droviasolutioncenter@gmail.com or droviasolutioncenter@yahoo.com) You can also call him on +2348054049995 or contact him directly Via His Website http://droviasolutioncenter.webs.com/
My Regards…

My name is Richard Sophia, i think its a good thing to share this wonderful testimony because am so happy now, i have been married for four years, with two kids, and a lovely husband, i was having a sweet family, until when things started getting sour, my husband started coming home late at night, started ignoring my feelings and needs, i later found out that he was having an affair with with another woman, this was tearing my family apart as my children was been affected a lot, i didn’t know what to do, my heart was so saddened, until i came in contact with one Dr. OGBIDI, a spell caster, on a marriage website, i told him about my problems in my family, he told me he is going to fix my family and bring back my husband if only i could provide what will be needed, i did as he asked and he fixed my family for me and my husband broke up with the lady and came back home and asked for forgiveness, am so so happy today, i cant hide this but share the good news,
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he can help you with the following……..1. Get YOUR boyfriend/girlfriend/husband/wife back..2. Heal all kinds of sickness.. 3.Fix barrenness……4. Wealth/Riches….5. Cancel a divorce order 6. Fix addition to drugs and many more…..contact him today: DROGBIDISOLUTIONHOME@GMAIL.COM OR… DROGBIDISOLUTIONHOME@YAHOO.CO.UK.,,,

Tara Richard

No one could have ever made me believe that the letter I’m about to write would actually one day be written. I was the world’s biggest sceptic. I never believed in magic spells or anything like that, but I was told by a reliable source (a very close co-worker) that Dr Marvel is a very dedicated, gifted, and talented person, and after much “cajoling,” she (my co-worker) got me to visit this website. It was one of the best things I have ever done. My love life was in shambles; I had been through two divorces and was on the brink of a third. I just couldn’t face another divorce, and I wanted to try harder to make our relationship work, but my husband didn’t seem to care. So, with nothing but my pride to lose, I checked it out. I was flabbergasted. Dr Marvel is for REAL. He did whatever magic he does, and lo and behold – no more than TWO DAYS later, I had my husband back! It was like a miracle! He suddenly wanted to go to marriage counselling, and we’re doing very, very well, on the road to recovery! Love and Many Blessings Back to You! Contact Dr Marvel through his email on extremespellhome@hotmail.com or extremespellhome@gmail.com

Tara Richard

No one could have ever made me believe that the letter I’m about to write would actually one day be written. I was the world’s biggest sceptic. I never believed in magic spells or anything like that, but I was told by a reliable source (a very close co-worker) that Dr Marvel is a very dedicated, gifted, and talented person, and after much “cajoling,” she (my co-worker) got me to visit this website. It was one of the best things I have ever done. My love life was in shambles; I had been through two divorces and was on the brink of a third. I just couldn’t face another divorce, and I wanted to try harder to make our relationship work, but my husband didn’t seem to care. So, with nothing but my pride to lose, I checked it out. I was flabbergasted. Dr Marvel is for REAL. He did whatever magic he does, and lo and behold – no more than TWO DAYS later, I had my husband back! It was like a miracle! He suddenly wanted to go to marriage counselling, and we’re doing very, very well, on the road to recovery! Love and Many Blessings Back to You! Contact Dr Marvel through his email on extremespellhome@hotmail.com or extremespellhome@gmail.com.

julei lucas

My name is sarah dixon, am from Dublin. i want to use this opportunity to thank my great doctor who really made my life a pleasurable one today. This great man DR.Zaza brought my husband back to me, i had 2 lovely kids for my husband, about 3 years ago i and my husband has been into one quarrel or the other until he finally left me for one lady. i felt my life was over and my kids thought they would never see their father again. i tried to be strong just for the kids but i could not control the pains that torments my heart, my heart was filled with sorrows and pains because i was really in love with my husband. Every day and night i think of him and always wish he would come back to me, until one day i met a good friend of mine that was also in a situation like me but her problem was her ex-boyfriend who she had an unwanted pregnancy for and he refused to take responsibility and dumped her. she told me that mine was a small case and that i shouldn’t worry about it at all so i asked her what was the solution to my problems and she gave me this great man phone number and his email address. i was doubting if this man was the solution, so contacted this great man and he told me what to do and i deed them all, he told me to wait for just two day and that my husband will come crawling on his kneels just for forgiveness so i faithfully deed what this great man asked me to do and for sure after two days i heard a knock on the door, in a great surprise i saw him on his kneels and i was speechless, when he saw me, all he did was crying and asking me for forgiveness, from that day, all the pains and sorrows in my heart flew away,since then i and my husband and our lovely kids are happy.that’s why i want to say a big thank you to Email: drzazaspelltemple100@hotmail.com This great man made me to understand that there no problem on earth that has no solution so please if you know that you have this same problem or any problem that is similar, i will advise you to come straight to this great man. you can email him at: drzazaspelltemple100@hotmail.com or call him on +2348103508204

nicko333

When I was 15, my mother and I got into a verbal argument about my girlfriend. My mother called her a name and I said, “don’t call her that.” I was standing approximately five feet from my mother. I don’t even remember her hitting me, just suddenly looking behind me (sounds funny, but my entire body twisted down and around). At the time, I was a freshman and weighed about 140 pounds. My mom was closer to 200. She lunged again and I grabbed her. We fell to the ground and she punched, kicked, pulled hair and scratched. I was just trying to contain her. After about 15 seconds she got off of me, ran to her bedroom and called the police – on me. She didn’t even have a mark on her. I was bloody, bruised and scratched, with a piece of my hair missing. When the cops arrived, one of them got in MY face and said I “should never talk to my mother like that.” They did NOTHING. They saw her as some kind of victim in it and left. I stayed the night elsewhere and took pictures of the injuries. Called a hotline the next day and they told me they would have a hard time reporting a 40-some year old woman had abused her 15-year-old son.

When I get angry, I attempt to leave the room, but my wife will grab me and start trying to wrench my neck. In order to escape, I have to remove her. Then it’s, “you son of a B*&^%^ you are abusing me!” It’s like if they corner you, you have no choice – take a beating – or get everything taken from you.

Ignorance about domestic violence against men is as ancient as bigotry. Yes, men have long taken advantage of backward laws, finally coming to an end in the 1960s. However, protection of an individual should not swing on a genitalia-based pendulum. Just as racism should not swing completely the other way. People don’t understand the Diva-generation and how they operate. They merge chauvinistic 1950s “open the door and pay for me” logic with modern “don’t need a man” or “need a better man if you aren’t good enough or oppose me.” Little “princesses” running around nailing us at will, cheating at will, and all they have to do is walk into the courtroom and tell that 50, 60-year-old judge, “I’m afraid of him” and boom! You lose your kids, your house, your marriage, and they run to sleep with the next guy laughing all the way. Are all women like this? Absolutely NOT. But, as you can see from this article, the balance between social ignorance and protective justice for all people is severely tipped in a woman’s favor. “No More” you say? Prove it. Protect men now.

My name is Handford Ann,i base in canada.i want to share my wonderful testimony on how i got back my ex-lover of my life back, who i sworn to be with until when he left me to another woman for no reason and i try to make things work for both of us yet things where getting worse and i love him so much and there is nothing i could do to get my ex back until i met a testimony share by Maria from USA on the internet talking about a powerful spell caster who brought his ex lover back within 48hours and i decide to give it a try and to my greatest surprise he also did it for me just as he did for Maria and i have a lot of people complaining of fake spell caster but this one i met was a real spell caster who help me to solve my problem i have no solution to,i introduce many of my best friends that have a similar problems,and their problem were solve with the great help of dr.Trust.they get back their ex within 48 hours.i am so happy that my ex is back to me again,and the most surprise,is that our love is very strong,every day is happiness and joy. and there is nothing like been with the man you love.i am so happy my love is back to me with the help of Dr.Trust.if you have similar problem i will advice you to contact him ,he is there to help you and put a smile on your face ask he did to me and others.contact email(ultimatespellcast@gmail.com or ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com call +2348156885231) what will i have done if not the great help of dr.trust. Thanks Handford Ann from canada. ,../

jbeme

I agree, most women are violent – a lot more then I was ever led to believe growing up. As an adult I’ve never understood the male aggressor thing.
A lot of women know you can’t fight back and use it against you. If you call them out for hitting you, then your weak. I had one who use to complain that I hurt her wrists while holding her back and that it was abuse. My holding your wrist so you can’t hit me – is abuse, Okay… How about try and not hitting me, and stop following me when I try and get away.
Worst part is, a woman hitting you in public isn’t even noticed. Her screaming is met with, “let’s go the other way”. I just know if I respond even slightly, that phone will be out in a second and you will be dialing 9-1-1.
I must have high standards or something. All I want, a woman that doesn’t hit me, doesn’t cut herself, doesn’t starve herself, and doesn’t like to be choked in bed. Or am I surrounded by some really odd women, cause even my co-workers have similar stories.
I think the root of the problem, every guy can be rich and it lasts (we at least have the potential) – not every girl can be pretty and even then it doesn’t last. That must really mess with them. Our society needs to change the demands on women to be more in line with what we ask of men. Even though I have dealt with a lot of crazy women, I do think there is hope but we need a vast overhaul.

cannon shelly

Good day.Compliments of the season to you all out there.. I am so full with joy as i write this post right now.. i really have had an en counted with a real spell caster who is so true with is word and he does what he says he will do. He is the realest of all spell casters out there.. so genuine and true. I want to thank High priest ozigididon for all he had done for me within the short time i met him.. he has really made my end of year a memorable one and has made me know that there is still hope. Thank you once again for bring back my lost love and making my life sweet and better.. I am so happy for the divine turn around he brought to my life. friends out there.. search no further for fake and scam spell caster, the real one is highpriestoziigididon@gmail.com and his name is High priest ozigididon, Contact him today and share your problems with him and i am so optimistic there will be a solution to that problem when been brought to High priest ozigididon. highpriestozigididon@gmail.com

Sue Preedy

Hi I am SUE PREEDY from London I got a love spell done on my fiance actually he left me after one year of engagement I was shocked when he told me he does not love me any more he is going to marry with another girl it was very difficult to believe because we were in love from last 5 years he was the guy who never thought to live without me for a second he used to give thousands of phone calls in a day and he was saying to me he does not love me any more, it was a worse news for my family because I gave a very good treat to my friends and raletive on my engagement and we put engagement ring to each other in front of hundreds of people now if he didn’t marry me so it was shame for me in my society so I decided that I will get him back any how, than I found Dr.Trust on Internet I told him my problem he told me not to worry I will fetch him back to you he said that he will come himself and will beg me.he gave me 48 hours time and of course it happened before 48 hours he come back to me and said he is sorry for what he did to me,that he is ready to marry me. we get married and we are happy now as husband and wife. really Dr.Trust is a Miracle Man. contact him for your own help ultimatespellcast@gmail.com or ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com call me +2348156885231….

Natasha Johnson

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An amazing testimony on a spell caster who brought my husband back to me.. My name is Natasha Johnson,i live in Florida,USA,and I’m happily married to a lovely and caring husband ,with two kids.A very big problem occurred in my family seven months ago,between me and my husband .so terrible that he took the case to court for a divorce.he said that he never wanted to stay with me again,and that he didn’t love me anymore.So he packed out of the house and made me and my children passed through severe pain. I tried all my possible means to get him back,after much begging,but all to no avail.and he confirmed it that he has made his decision,and he never wanted to see me again. So on one evening,as i was coming back from work,i met an old friend of mine who asked of my husband .So i explained every thing to him,so he told me that the only way i can get my husband back,is to visit a spell caster,because it has really worked for him too.So i never believed in spell,but i had no other choice,than to follow his advice. Then he gave me the email address of the spell caster whom he visited.{bravespellcaster@gmail.com}. So the next morning,i sent a mail to the address he gave to me,and the spell caster assured me that i will get my husband back the next day.What an amazing statement!! I never believed,so he spoke with me,and told me everything that i need to do. Then the next morning, So surprisingly, my husband who didn’t call me for the past seven {7}months,gave me a call to inform me that he was coming back.So Amazing!! So that was how he came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and he apologized for his mistake,and for the pain he caused me and my children. Then from that day,our relationship was now stronger than how it were before,by the help of a spell caster. So, i will advice you out there to kindly visit the same website { http://enchantedscents.tripod.com/lovespell/},if you are in any condition like this,or you have any problem related to “bringing your ex back. So thanks to the Dr Brave for bringing back my husband ,and brought great joy to my family once again. {bravespellcaster@gmail.com}, Thanks..,,..

lizzy benjamin

Hello I am lizzy , am out here to spread this good news to the entire world on how I got my ex husband back.I was going crazy when my husband left me and my two kids for another woman last month, But when i met a friend that introduced me to DR Agbalagba the great messenger to the oracle of DR Agbalagba healing home,I narrated my problem to DR Agbalagba about how my ex Husband left me and my two kids and also how i needed to get a job in a very big company.He only said to me that i have come to the right place were i will be getting my heart desire without any side effect.He told me what i need to do,After it was been done,24 hours later,My Ex Husband called me on the phone and was saying sorry for living me and the kids before now and one week after my Husband called me to be pleading for forgiveness,I was called for interview in a very big company here in IRELAND were i needed to work as the managing director..I am so happy and overwhelmed that i have to tell this to the entire world to contact DR Agbalagba on his personal email address and get all your problem solve..No problem is too big for him to solve..Contact him direct on: agbalagbatemple@yahoo.com and your problem will be solve.

marian bush

I have be married for nine years my husband and i where living happily and just two months ago my husband ment his ex girl friend whom he had in school days and all of a sudden he started dating her again and he never cared about his family again all he does is to stay late at night and when he come’s back he will just lie to me that he hard some fault with his car,there was this faithful day i caught the both of them in a shop,i walked to them and told the girl to stay of my husband girlfriend again,i have suffered too much in the hand of a cheating husband but and when he came home that evening he beat me up even despite the fact that i was pregnant he was just kicking and warning me to never point a finger on his affairs. thank to ancientokija whom i got from a blog site after a long search for a real spell caster i was so happy that he fufilled all what he said in just less than three days after the spell was casted they quareled and he broke up with the girl and his senses are fully back and he now care and love me like he have never done before and if you are their suffering from a broken marriage or your husband or ex cheats? you can email (LAVENDERLOVESPELL@YAHOO.COM) his spells are pure and very powerful without any doubt. or call him +2347053977842. he is the best caster that can help you with your problems.

Carolyn

My name is Kate Morrison, i live in UK. My life is back!!! After 2 years of Broken marriage, my husband left me with two kids, I felt like ending it all, i almost committed suicide because he left us with nothing, i was emotionally down all this while. Thanks to a spell caster called Dr.Trust of Ultimate spell cast which i met online. On one faithful day, as I was browsing through the internet, I came across several of testimonies about this particular spell caster. Some people testified that he brought their Ex lover back, some testified that he restores womb,cure cancer,and other sickness, some testified that he can cast a spell to stop divorce and also spell to get a good paid job so on. He is amazing, i also come across one particular testimony, it was about a woman called Vera, she testified about how he brought back her Ex lover in less than 2 days, and at the end of her testimony she dropped his email.After reading all these, I decided to give it a try. I contacted him via email and explained my problem to him. In just 48hours, my husband came back to me. We resolved our issues, and we are even happier than ever.Dr.Trust you are a gifted man and i will not stop publishing him because he is a wonderful man. If you have a problem and you are looking for a real and genuine spell caster, Try him anytime, he is the answer to your problems. you can contact him on solutionoflovespelltemple@gmail.com, he is the best caster that can help you with your problems.

Carolyn

My name is Deborah Joy,i base in Canada want to share my wonderful testimony on how i got back my ex-lover of my life back, who i sworn to be with until when he left me to another woman for no reason and i try to make things work for both of us yet things where getting worse and i love him so much and there is nothing i could do to get my ex back until i met a testimony share by Maria from USA on the internet talking about a powerful spell caster who brought his ex lover back within 48 hours and i decide to give it a try and to my greatest surprise he also did it for me just as he did for Maria and i have a lot of people complaining of fake spell caster but this one i met was a real spell caster who help me to solve my problem i have no solution to,i introduce many of my best friends that have a similar problems,and their problem were solve with the great help of Dr.Iyaryi. they get back their ex within 48 hours.i am so happy that my ex is back to me again,and the most surprise,is that our love is very strong,every day is happiness and joy. and there is nothing like been with the man you love.i am so happy my love is back to me with the help of Dr.Iyaryi. if you have similar problem i will advice you to contact him ,he is there to help you and put a smile on your face ask he did to me and others.contact email(driayaryi2012@hotmail.com)

John White Jnr

This is my testimony about the good work of a man who helped me..My name
is Tracy Adams, and I base in Canada. My life is back!!! After 2 years
of marriage, my husband left me with our three kids. I felt like my life
was about to end, and was falling apart. Thanks to a spell caster
called Dr John who i met online. On one faithful day, as I was browsing
through the internet, I was searching for a good spell caster that can
solve my problems. I came across series of testimonies about this
particular spell caster. Some people testified that he brought their Ex
lover back, some testified that he restores womb, some testified that he
can cast a spell to stop divorce and so on. There was one particular
testimony I saw, it was about a woman called grace,she testified about
how Dr John brought back her Ex lover in less than 72 hours and at the
end of her testimony she gave Dr John e-mail address. After reading all
these,I decided to give Dr John a try. I contacted him with his via
email address and explained my problem to him. In just 2 days, my
husband came back to me. We solved our issues, and we are even happier
than before. Dr John is really a talented and gifted man and i will not
to stop publishing him because he is a wonderful Dr…If you have a
problem and you are looking for a real and genuine spell caster to solve
that problem for you. Try Dr John today, he might be the answer to your
problem. Here’s his contact: HOMEOFSOLUTIONS@OUTLOOK.COM Thank you once
again Dr John. Contact him for the following:

My name is morgan keri.i want to give thanks to dr.trust for bringing back my ex husband.No one could have ever made me believe that the letter I’m about to write would actually one day be written. I was the world’s biggest skeptic. I never believed in magic spells or anything like this, but I was told by a reliable source (a very close co-worker) that Trust is a very dedicated, gifted, and talented person,It was one of the best things I have ever done. My love life was in shambles; I had been through two divorces and was on the brink of a third. I just couldn’t face another divorce, and I wanted to try harder to make our relationship work, but my husband didn’t seem to care. and he brake up with me again.I was confuse and do not no what to do again,rather them to get in contact with dr.trust. He did a love spell that make my husband come back to me. we are now very much happy with our self. dr.trust make him to realize how much we love and need each other.This man is for REAL and for good.he can also help you to fix your broken relationship. I had my husband back! It was like a miracle! He suddenly wanted to go to marriage counseling, and we’re doing very, very well,in our love life.contact email(ultimatespellcast@gmail.com or ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com tel:+234186885231)

Morgan Keri

My name is morgan keri.i want to give thanks to dr.trust for bringing back my ex husband.No one could have ever made me believe that the letter I’m about to write would actually one day be written. I was the world’s biggest skeptic. I never believed in magic spells or anything like this, but I was told by a reliable source (a very close co-worker) that Trust is a very dedicated, gifted, and talented person,It was one of the best things I have ever done. My love life was in shambles; I had been through two divorces and was on the brink of a third. I just couldn’t face another divorce, and I wanted to try harder to make our relationship work, but my husband didn’t seem to care. and he brake up with me again.I was confuse and do not no what to do again,rather them to get in contact with dr.trust. He did a love spell that make my husband come back to me. we are now very much happy with our self. dr.trust make him to realize how much we love and need each other.This man is for REAL and for good.he can also help you to fix your broken relationship. I had my husband back! It was like a miracle! He suddenly wanted to go to marriage counseling, and we’re doing very, very well,in our love life.contact email(ultimatespellcast@gmail.com or ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com tel:+234186885231)…

My name is Carol williams, i live and work in Oxford shire, UK. My life is back!!! After 2 years of Broken marriage, my husband left me with two kids, I felt like ending it all, i almost committed suicide because he left us with nothing, i was emotionally down all this while. Thanks to a spell caster called Dr. oyinbo the spell caster which i met online. On one faithful day, as I was browsing through the internet, I came across several of testimonies about this particular spell caster. Some people testified that he brought their Ex lover back, some testified that he restores womb,cure cancer,and other sickness, some testified that he can cast a spell to stop divorce and also spell to get a good paid job so on. He is amazing, i also come across one particular testimony, it was about a woman called Vera, she testified about how he brought back her Ex lover in less than 2 days, and at the end of her testimony she dropped his email.After reading all these, I decided to give it a try. I contacted him via email and explained my problem to him. In just 48hours, my husband came back to me. We resolved our issues, and we are even happier than ever.Dr.oyinbo you are a gifted man and i will not stop publishing him because he is a wonderful man. If you have a problem and you are looking for a real and genuine spell caster, Try him anytime, he is the answer to your problems. you can contact him on ( prophetoyinbojesus@yahoo.com or prophetoyinbojesus@yahoo.com) or call him +2348074066640. he is the best caster that can help you with your problems.

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HOW I GOT BACK MY LOST LOVER BY PRIEST ODUMA +2348153363047

Hello my name is Kevin Jeffrey. I was in a sexual relationship with my ex-girlfriend for 4 years, we had rocky start for good 3 years then our relationship grew stronger and we were so happy and even planned to get married until she & my Mum had a blew, Mum called her awful names because she is short. I did what any partner would and stood by my ex-girlfriend, then she decides to dump me by text telling me that she was hurt by my Mum’s behavior when they had a blew. I was mad when I noticed that she has reconciled with his old time fiancee week after the blew with Mum, I don’t want the years that I have spent with her to waste because I know that she truly love me but my Mum won’t allow us to get married.

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Barry

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I have been in great bondage for about 4 years
suffering in the hands of a cheating husband. We were living happily
until he meant his old time girl friend and he started dating her again
outside our marriage and before i knew it he stopped caring for his own
family, to the extent that he was planning to marry her and divorce me. I
cried and reported him to his family members but he never listened to
anyone and to cut the story short, i came in search for a real spell
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and our 2 kids again; on my search i saw people sharing testimony on
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and told him the problem that i was going through, and he agreed to help
me and told me never to worry. After he had finished casting the spell,
on the second day, they both had a quarrel and he beat up his
girlfriend and he came back home begging me to forgive him that his eyes
are clear now that he will never do any thing that will hurt his family
again and promise to be a caring father and never to cheat on me again.
I am so happy that i did not lose him to the girl and all appreciation
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Glen

I have 2 children with a woman I have been with for 11 years. After having separated 4 times, been to court to defend myself against false accusations, had restraining orders made against me, when forced to defend myself and seen the manipulation and controlling measures that women go to, even lying to their children is no problem or of any conscionable issue for them, I know first hand that females abuse their partners and manipulate everyone around them to no end. The question is why do women feel the need to do this in the first place?

When people face problems in their relationship, it’s easier to use the blame card than to accept that their are two sides and being reasonable with an irrational person, will never work.

Couples who find themselves in any abusive relationship, must look at the problem together and accept there are two people involved and neither one is without some form of blame or accountability. As a parent this is a duty to your children and yourself that must not be let just slide until next time and there will almost certainly be a next time until you start reaching out to seeking help for yourself and your partner.

Always document any issues of abuse. Be it that she didn’t come home for a few days, attacked, lied, whatever the case maybe, your only defence is going to be your ability to prove your innocence and stand up for yourself in a world that has become completely biased toward female’s and all too often overlook’s that men can easily be the victims in any case.

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I will never understand these women, you have the privilege of picking who it is you’re with. But men always get the blame, show some personal responsibility.

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The great affect hormones have upon the sexes is only deemed a matter for academics and not really chouder for the average punter but the fact is our hormones are the product of very complex evolotion that has resuledt from millions of years of perfection and when you consider the female hormone and its effect upon the female mind you enter a world of truly primeordial nature.

Take the menstration cycle, perfectly aligned with the phases of the moon, and why? Well when we were fish upon the sure their would be a mad rush to mate upon a full moon, to cast eggs and fertilise them and this of course is as much a truly amazing fact as it would be a truly abrasive argument for any religus cretlionlist to take on.

I have a theory that explains the widely hidden and usialy coverd up effect of P.M.T and this is that our ancestors would form matrearchs and their menstrul cycles would synchronise as is still the case with women that co habitate.

Upon the point at which eggs were ready to be fertilised the alpha females would fight and compete for the alpa males and this exactly the behaviour we still see now.

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there is no safe place to hide in the world of statisitics, the best hope is for the weaker members of all contests is that the mechanisims that measure the amount of abuse are tipped in the favour of the under dog…

Diane

As a former copy editor and proofreader, I can be heavy-handed about this: If you claim that “studies” prove something, cite the studies. If you are going to use the word “studies” or “reports” to support your claims here, name those studies and supports. Otherwise, I don’t believe you.

Eugene Jackson

You pointed to no particular example. Being a former copy editor and proofreader, please provide the specificity that you claim the author, this article and this site does not. Otherwise, I don’t believe YOU.

b2curious

You want to see the names of the studies and reports? Click on the links in the article, you’ll go right to the studies and reports. Then you can see the name of the study/report, as well as the information in it. I don’t see the need to put lengthy study names such as “Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence,” when a simple mouse click will take you right to it. Such convoluted study/report titles would make the article rather unwieldy. You, of course, are entitled to your own opinion.

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It’s one that I’ve felt compelled to write about many times, but have stayed away from it because–as a man–my experience has been one of two reactions to the story:

1. People have looked at me strangely as though, “What’s wrong with him? He can’t “control” his own wife?
(And the answer to that one is I am HORRIFIED at “controlling” anyone. That’s not my job. Never has
been and never will be.)

2. Or second, people find it funny that a man allows a woman to beat-up on him–either physically, mentally,
or both. And if you do, you must be a wimp. I am not.

I, for one, was married to a professional, highly visible woman in the business community. We were both high profile persons. She was an outstanding business woman, very accommodating to her public–and when WE were in public, she was the friend, wife, companion that most ANY man would envy.

But when we came home, it was like an actress stepping off the stage, getting out of character, and becoming passively controlling and violent as hell without any provocation.

The perfect example is when (because neither of us were home to cook, I brought dinner in–or we ate out–seven nights each week) I called her about 4 p.m. and asked what time she would be home so I could pick-up dinner from a seafood restaurant, and she said between 6:30 and 7 p.m.

I had hot seafood platters and walked into the house at 6:45, when she didn’t show at 7 or 7:15, I called her cell phone. No answer. I waited and called again at 7:30….then 8…then 9…and still no answer. Because of her “high profile job”, I really became concerned that she hadn’t called…hadn’t told me any change of plans…and working at a financial institution, she might have been targeted leaving the building.

Long story shorter, she walked into the door at 3:40 in the morning, and I still hadn’t eaten my dinner, so both of our dinners were still waiting.

I told her how concerned I had been…and she–in her Baptist drunkenness–proceeded to beat upon my chest, my face and all I knew to do was allow her to keep hitting me so she would become tired quickly. I was afraid to defend myself in ANY WAY, knowing that I would be “the one to go to jail”. (Who’s going to believe a man, anyway?!?) She tired quickly. I brought her hands to her side in the same way a police officer would and restrained her, telling her, “That’s enough.” And so the story goes…on and on…and on…and on.

We divorced within three years of that incident, but about the time of our divorce, our local Police Department put bumper stickers on EVERY SINGLE POLICE CAR that said, “STOP DOMESTIC VIOLENCE” on one line; and underneath it was this line: “Violence Against Women is Wrong”. (Now, I ask you, humbly, WHAT does that bumper sticker imply? Violence against WOMEN is wrong, sure. But violence against MEN is okay?)

WOW!!!!!!! How about simply, “Stop Domestic Violence. Violence is Wrong.”

A few years ago, a childhood friend confided in me that, when we were 9, he was repeatedly sexually abused, tortured, and molested by one of his older sisters.

I asked him why he hadn’t told anyone and he told me that he’d spoken to a teacher about it in elementary school. She laughed at him and told him to stop making up “fibs.”

These things happen. Blaming men for all cases of domestic violence and sexual abuse is simply disingenuous.

Carole Heath

I quite agree Victor sexual and domestic violence just doesn’t happen to women and girls when someone isn’t believed it must be terrible for that person. You can’t just blame men for all cases I agree with you.

PlainOldTruth

“Index: Serial Killers” (find on google) is a list of over 600 female serial killer cases — the vast majority of them ignored by criminologists. A categorical presentation of these cases can be found online as “Female Serial Killer Collections: MASTER LIST.”

The article online entitled “Death on the Baby Farm” exposes how today’s criminologists still deliberately distort the historical record on violence by women against children.

Thank you for writing this article. I have a good friend who is currently in prison with extremely high bail after years of verbal abuse, threats, being hit with the women’s cane across the back, etc. He finally couldn’t take it one day and hit her below the knee after she struck him with her cane. She went to the ER and an advocate found her and convinced her to press charges. She now has blown everything out of proportion and is saying she’s afraid of him! This guy lives on SS disability and cannot even come close to the bail bond. No family, no place to live now that she’s put a restraining order. It’s so very sad when you see someone go through this. Thank you again.

Hanker

Great article! It would be equally nice if the statement “If we are serious about addressing domestic violence, then we must deal with all of the incarnations of the realities of domestic violence” could be utilized on an honest discussion about racism. However, just like the article speaks to “discussion about Israel’s occupation of Palestine need not devolve into anti-Semitism. Neither does a hard look at real terrorism, perpetrated by entities such as the Islamic State, have to degenerate into Islamophobia”, any Caucasian who wants to have an honest discussion about racism, is always labeled a racist.

Awakened Avenger

I’m still trying to determine how in the hell did ‘we the people’, allow the State to manage our domestic affairs? The world didn’t fall apart before these decrees were legislated into existence and that has only been in recent memory. About 20 years ago? The question remains, “How do we get the State out of our domestic affairs?” ‘Their’ solutions causes more problems.

TEEJAYZ

This is an excellent article and one that needs to be heard. No matter what we are led to believe we do NOT live in a gender neutral society when it comes to our court system.

Case in point. Yesterday the mayor of Bell Gardens was shot and killed by his wife. Explaining to police that she was intervening on behalf of her husband in what was a clear case of Domestic Violence, she was released and no arrest was made. If the gender roles were reversed there is no doubt in my mind that the man would be sitting in jail.

In Family Court, an increasingly common tactic is for a woman to tell the judge, “I was afraid he was going to physically (or sexually) abuse me and/or the kids.” Based on that alone a judge will immediately suspend all visitation rights for the father. And the only way he can get that claim expunged from his record is to sue his wife.
Reports show that upwards of 30% to 40% of all Domestic Violence cases are perpetrated by women against men. but, as was stated in this article, that’s a side of the coin that our society has chosen to ignore.

Oh…Happy Domestic Violence Awareness Month everyone!

noreply

Soooooo FAR….. I have been drugged by my X and it was witnessed and reported by the woman who witnessed it and I have been run over by my X and she broke my leg with my Daughter watching in the car as a witness..My X put her hands around my neck until I almost passed out and she did as my Daughter wrote to her brother tried to strangle her also….and I reported it and recorded it all on tape and NOTHING I DID to provoke any of it BUT……EVERY TIME i asked to file or report the serious harmful LIFE threatening abuse.the POLICE WOULD TELL ME real men DO not FILE ABUSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have the Sargent from the Rcmp recorded telling me this and also with a woman present as a witnessed this. I reached out to many as a man and I am sick to my heart and the PAIN I have from all the mental abuse especially by the ones we TRUSTED to PROTECT US ALLLLL is keeping my life in serious unbelievable stress and i have no words to describe it !!!!!!! other then my lawyer tell the DIVORCE JUDGE Quote “That if he didn’t do something this woman will hound and pound this man to death” and anoather quote from my lawyer to the judge was ” Judge, you couldn’t write a movie scrippt for this case” NOOOOOOOO SOME ONE TELL ME>>>>> HOW AND OR WHY DO THESE PEOPLE ALLOW AND YES IT,S THE JUDGES WHO ALLOW THIS TO GOOOOO ON>>>>>> NO ONE ELSE>>>>>>>>> THAT IS WHAT A JUDGE DOES HE IS SUPPOSED TO STOP THE BULLYING AND VIOLENCE NOT A ALLOW THE ABUSER OF AN OFF AND OFF TILL SHE KILLS ME OR MY CHILD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and on top of it the judge tell my X even after 5 long years that she continues doing hurtful and painful things to me as she promised she would the judge still tell her even after all what i mentioned he looks at her and tell her HE…… don’t know who she does what she does !!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT YET HE KNOWS WHAT SHE IS DOING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! REACHING FOR “HELP” !!!!!!!!! can ANYONE HELP ME OUT THEIR ????????????????????????? and help me show and tell my story ?????? I have it all documented and recorded and quoted by the same judge was to me he quoted ” He didn’t believe in people recording people but no one would believe me if I didn’t” SOOOOOO with that quote from the judge……….HOW CAN NO ONE HELP ME AND AS I SAID I HAVE IT WELL DOCUMENTED AND RECORDED AND WITNESSED ALLLL OF IT……….. EVEN the police telling the witness to RUN AWAY FROM REPORTING THE DRUGGING !!!!!!!! I HAVE THIS RECORDING> With ALL the people talking about ABUSE…. I CAN NOT REACH NOT A PERSON TO HELP ME !!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY???????????????????????

maybe

Put it on you tube. Show the world then maybe something will get done.

tjmoe

Good article. Despite what is projected by mass media, I believe the reality is, that there are many respectable women out there and they understand hitting is wrong period. They do not defend women (nor men) who feel it’s okay to hit the person [you] supposedly love….

At the end of the day… sign says “Don’t tease animal in cage” . Person goes ahead and teases animal in cage… Animal in cage attacks and hurts person. Animal in cage will justifiably be punished [put down] for attacking person… HOWEVER people WILL be reminded and the media WILL SAY, don’t provoke animal in cage because you just MIGHT get attacked. So want’s wrong with telling women not to hit men. The knowledge has nothing to do with the animal [or man], it’s for a persons [the woman’s] own well being.

Great article! I wrote a paper for a Women’s Study class I took some years ago and was interested to learn that since DV is always seen as a male/female phenomenon the issues of bisexual women and lesbians aren’t addressed. The research I found stated that bisexual women reported higher incidences of DV when in homosexual relationships than when they were in heterosexual releationsips. The research also stated that bisexual women and lesbians also reported that the police were less sensitive to their situation once they found out that a woman had beaten them and that, if they did go to a shelter, the language surrounding DV was about men as victimizers and women as victims which did not apply to their situations.
As for DV statistics…I don’t trust them. I don’t know of many men who would call the police if their wives or girlfriends were victimizing them. I currently work in a hospital where all patients are asked about DV. All of the women who were being victimized by their spouses or boyfriends were willing to speak to a social worker and to the police…none of the men were. So, when statistics are bing compiled they can’t possibly be an accurate representation of the extent of DV against men.

the logic here is flawed. the stats are misleading, and it is useful in keeping the focus away from where it needs to be… the NFL should never be seen as a leader in this social problem, this male problem. what is the gender of the writer? what is the writers intention, we have cycled to a place where we must ask those questions, given the desires of those whose intentions are questionable, and the long term lack of solutions to violoence against women. long term, understatement.

Eugene Jackson

Don’t just say they’re flawed, debunk them. Because I’ll take the writer’s research and cited sources over your unsubstantiated claim that the stats are misleading. If they are, then lead us.

“In 2011, an estimated 19,000 rapes and sexual assaults — overwhelmingly against women — took place in the military.”

The fact is that a bit over half of the rapes and sexual assaults which took place in 2011 in the military (as measured by a survey) were against men.

Robert Monroe, Jr.

This month’s GQ magazine has an article about male rape in the military. It stated that when a man enlists in the military the chance of him being sexually assaulted increases by a factor of 10.

Idiotesque

What’s also a fact is that women make up around 15% of the military, while men the rest of it. In fact I think the estimative is 1 in 3 women in the military having been raped. Women are particularly targeted.

It is nice to see someone courageous enough to draw attention to this subject. Every time I attempt to bring it up I feel like I am hammered as being insensitive to the plight of women. It is time to address domestic violence truthfully and we may finally make progress toward violence free relationships when we openly discuss the truth of violence against people instead of violence against only women.

Margot

Great article, and there is an incredible balance between portraying women as perpetrator and keeping in mind that they are the majority of the victims. I will use this article as a base of one of my blog posts on http://shedidit2014.wordpress.com/
a blog on men victims of domestic violence.

There’s even reason to question some of those figures this article begins with; boys who are victims of sex traficking appear to be overlooked by some source, and women participating in it do too. I think when we start seeing all these problems as human problems we will all be better off.

Guest

Aye, Dean has the truth of it. A lot of problems we have are human problems. Racism is a human problem. Sexism. Hate. Everyone has the capacity for the greatest good or the greatest evil. Nobody should be on a pedestal, and in the pursuit of justice, nothing should be overlooked.

nickel

Violence by women followings the ‘family terrorist’ model. Its not about her hitting. Its about a full on reign of terror. A nightmare, I can tell you. http://www.batteredmen.com/pizzey.htm

Adrian

I am presently in a situation where I have been arrested twice and an Order of Protection placed against me based on allegations from a woman i divorced after years of mental and economic anguish. The system is s stacked against good men it is astonishing. This woman assaulted me physically towards the end of our marriage and she was sent back to the home (a house I purchased prior to the marriage).. She went and lied to the Family Courts that i hit her 15 year old daughter from a previous marriage. The Order was dismissed after 15 months. When i walked out of court, I was again arrested for allegedly violating that order that was dismissed. I am now back in court. This time Criminal Court while her and her kids form a previous marriage are in my home, not paying the mortgage etc. Now my home is in the process of foreclosure ans i try to do a short sale. The system allow women to abuse it. Does anyone out there know any serious advocacy groups that i may join to let people especially men know about these atrocities?

michael borg acosta

Simple solution if she attacks you again you hit her as hard as you can its self defense sure you might be going to jail but she sure as hel will think twice about touching you

hg

Where are you located? Unfortunately there are not many advocacy groups for men. I work in the court system and it is truly biased against men. The problem is so many professionals have been exposed to only one point of view for so long and so many outdated studies are recycled year after year. Then there is the political reality of things and eh financial. There is zero money out there for men’s support groups. That is why I think like minded people must band together to provide support and help for each other.

Paul Johnson

There’s the men’s rights movement. There’s also the community of the wrongly accused. They aren’t really groups, though — they’re movements. But if you seek them out they may be able to point you to a discrete group near you.

A Voice for Men has a Judicial Accountability Committee.

Sagamanus

I can see MRA cuckoo’s out in force on this one.

FrillArtist

And I can see the white knights, sjws and feminazis out in force on this one. Starting with you…

Sagamanus

Who gives a damn. I’d rather be a white knight than a bloody white supremicist which is what most of you wacko’s are at the end of the day. It always comes down to white males being the most maligned group in the history of the world according to you people. Oh and I’m glad to be a social justice warrior than a right wing nutjob.

FrillArtist

“Who gives a damn?”

Yet here you are commenting. Strange…

Sagamanus

Who gives a damn about what you think of me, mutant. Not the article!

FrillArtist

My comment stands. You don’t give a damn yet you got highly agitated and pi$$y…take a sip of tea and settle down.

Sagamanus

Lol. Get lost loser.

Bee Dubya

To me, they come off as Social Justice Panhandlers – using aggressive moral intimidation to gather “correct” thoughts for their cup. As the panhandler does not get the coins of “Correct Thoughts” the panhandling becomes more aggressive.

Frontierguy03

As all in depth studies and statistics show women are most often the ones who initiate domestic violence making them the perpetrators, that makes men the victims. It is only by going to the fact that women suffer more injuries can they claim a victim status. The question is, how long will society continue to reward perpetrators with victim-hood if they suffer from the result of picking on someone with more physical strength than themselves?

rudy

I can testify about woman violence , i’m undergoing it almost every 2 days not only the Physical, but also orally( an avalanche of comparaisons from what other woman who supposedly more stupid than mine have recieved from their husband and how lucky they are allways about glitter, sometimes about my age, acting as like Madamme scandale, i have 25 y.more than she and blackmail violence! tomorrow i leave, sometimes up to 3 times a day , including preparing suitcases etc… I’m a european pensioner living in Tunisia maried with a Tunisian woman, my wife is Bi polar it starts like putti the light on, press a button its takes sometimes 3 days sometimes 15 minutes it comes and go’s like a flash ! She is very violent with whatever she take’s in the hand even knives and dead manacesI never use violence but can understand some men , not well trained martial arts so i can control myselve. Although being not rich we eat good healthy food have free medical assistance and live in a 50 feet sailing boat !

Donald Bolson

If she comes at you to hurt you and you keep allowing it then its just going to continue and her confidence with what she can get away with is going to grow. If she’s endangering your life, knock her out. Call the police and detail situation. If her prints are on a deadly weapon, she’s fucked.

QleanQlassy Atlanta

I also point out the CDC study Lesbians are Higher Abusers than male look at the WNBA cases but because its a female its ok that the still play

MarthaThompson

They shouldn’t be allowed to play.

cross

thank you for this very real article! feminist writers are always blaming the man, and they have set up policy that hurt men in many ways! a woman cannot start fights and claim victim-hood! and studies have shows for years that women are the cause for their own violence! it is a shame that you have to word your document so that people know that you are not “blaming the victim” however, looking into the role the “victim” played is very important!

Sagamanus

“Studies have shown for years that women are the cause for their own violence”

Are you insane?

cross

nope it is the truth… women hit first and get hit back! reciprocal violence! don’t start fights, you wont get hit back do you get it now?

Moghedia

That might be the case some of the time, but not all of the time. These sweeping statements are what the writer of the article is trying to prevent!

Bewildered

Indeed ! But you need to be consistent ,sweeping generalizations from any direction need to be called out.Fixating on gender/sex is what’s responsible for the present mess.

Sagamanus

Go to hell liar. MRA wacko.

guestboy!

I’ve punched more girls than I have guys. Want to know why? Because guys aren’t stupid enough to attack me. Girls on the other hand punch me, and don’t stop punching when I ask, and so I have to punch them back to get them to stop.

Sagamanus

Guys aren’t stupid enough to attack you? Because, you’re super tough? And It must be a tough life you lead, you know with all the girls coming out of the woodwork to punch you for no damn reason right? I mean what reason could they have had?

LogicalReminder

MRA… a quick jump… it does look like both ends of the spectrum are fully represented and using this post as the battle ground. Now I fully expect each of you to make fun of each other, calling names, trying to get one up… you know why? Because that is what abusers do.

We need to have legitimate discussions regarding the issue, and in order to do that, we’re going to need to leave the name-calling, bullies out at the kid’s table so the adults can work on the solutions.

Max Gold

This is typical feminist rhetoric. If a woman hits a man she is justified and the man deserves it, if a man strikes a woman he is an abuser and the woman the victim. Let’s reverse your example: When a man strikes a woman she must have done something to deserve it. Because we know men don’t hit women for no reason? I mean what reason could they have had? The fact feminists cheer on your thinking that women are justified in striking men but when reversed it is considered misogyny is proof of how destructive and fascist feminism is.

Sagamanus

He does deserve it. Men get away with rape and abuse on an exponentially larger scale than anything women get away with. So spare me. I’m sorry your mom hit you with a purse and you thought she should be brutally killed for it. But that is the logic of your kind.

Objectivity

No! The victim NEVER deserves to be abused regardless of gender. Domestic violence must end… all of it. All current research shows men and women are equally violent and that society only focuses on one side. Most DV is reciprocated and when you ask men and women the same questions with the same definitions of terms, young women are perpetrators of violence on their boyfriends than vice versa. And before you try to negate facts by screaming MRA, no I dont subscribe or belong to any. I merely read the research that is there for everyone instead of listening to opinions of special interests with opinions and justification.

Sagamanus

Men and women are not equally violent. Nowhere god damn near. It’s absurd to say so. Only an MRA wackjob would ever foist that nonsense in an argument. I will never believe that BS. It’s like saying half the mass shooters are women instead of all white MALE nutjobs. Who would believe it?

Objectivity

Interesting that the article you are posting on cites evidence of that which you cannot conceive. Is that a problem with the data, or with your ability (or obvious desire) to interpret (misinterpret) it? As the saying goes, “one can explain it to you, but they can’t understand it for you.”

Sagamanus

Show me the particulars of the violence idiot. Getting pushed is not the same as a right and left hook. Only a mens rights wacko draws comparisons like that. Athletes get away with rape all the time as well. There is an entire system dedicated to sports culture in the US relieving worshiped sports stars of any and all consequences. But you apparently think that one or two incidents is parity?

Objectivity

As I have stated, I have no connection to any MRA, but I dont mind if you keep incarnating them for your desire to call names, kick and scream. I’ll continue with the facts and help the adults find a solution to all of DV. It’s interesting that many such as yourself expand the definition of DV when speaking of the 1.5 million women victims. If you use the same definition, it oddly yields 1.3 million men victims… but when that hits the media, we redefine it again to trivialize half of the DV that is reported. Based on your previous posts, you’ll have to excuse me if I choose other sources for my facts.

Sports cases? Really? Bengals receiver, Steve McNair? Where was the outrage when they were killed? Not seriously injured, but killed? You can deny female violence all you want. i see it all the tme… girlfriends slapping, kicking, pushing, demeaning their boyfriends… and yes i intervene just as i would if a male were doing it, but the weird thing is? I havent had to because i havent seen it happen. I men really… male victims of DV are in our sitcoms… that’s how mainstream it has become. It is accepted as humor.

Getting pushed is not the same as a punch, no doubt. But when reporting female victims, we include both. Women shouldn’t be pushed, but if she hauls off and punches him back, but he doesnt go to the hospital, we dont call that altercation a female only victim because he didnt get medical attention. But that is what you do. You imply only a mens rights wacko would do that… but I dont take you for an MRA, so once again, your own post disproves your statement. Do you do this on purpose, or do you really believe what you write?

Sagamanus

You see it all the time? Yeah on the streets. In buildings. In houses. At the mall. At sports stadiums…What will society do with this epidemic of potential female serial killers and assassins. And surely the vast array of criminals in the NFL. Of which there is no end(you can look this up) are all under the heel of a female matriarch. Aren’t they? Most being domestic abusers btw.

Men laugh at those shows you mention not to mention act in them. Oh and produce and direct them. Go blame them then. And apparently while viewing all this female violence which you witness everyday and in fact can’t get out of bed without seeing, not once have you seen male violence against women because of the code of the gladiator no doubt.

Objectivity

Yes, it is everywhere because it is accepted. It needs to not be accepted. But then comes more fallacy:
“…epidemic of potential female serial killers and assassins”
And yet I mentioned nothing of the sort. I specifically cited call names kick and scream at their boyfriends. A poster we both know well said only a mutant could confuse that, yet here you are. You try to negate fact by stretching reality to the extreme and then argue the absurdity of the extreme you create. So go ahead and archrival and forthvwithvyourself. When you are done, we can continue with facts.

I most certainly do NOT blame women for the idiocy of pretending victims of domestic violence dont exist based on gender. I blame politics and special interest for the subterfuge it took to create those like you saying it is ok to kill your husband because he always deserves it. If she did it, just believe he deserved the death penalty solely because she is a woman. I wouldn’t trust any individual human that much let alone over half the country solely because of what’s between their legs. Gender reassignment surgery would really mess that up as well.

Paul Johnson

Nobody said men don’t contribute to the zeitgeist. Men are plenty the problem when it comes to violence against men. Men are the biggest excusers of violence by women.

Sagamanus

Ahh your side says nothing but that. You go to these pedo sites like AVFM and you can’t find a single man that’s done wrong at anytime in their life.

Paul Johnson

“My side! Your side! My side! Your side! My side! Your side!”

Sagamanus

I don’t want to be on your side. It is us against you and it will stay that way.

nordmann

Woooowwww.

Don’t change your avatar. It works for you.

I have a theory that you’re actually a fifteen-year-old right-wingnut dude posing as a feminist to try to discredit the movement. Could be wrong, but who knows?

Sagamanus

I have a theory and that’s you’re an idiot. I don’t want unity with right wingers. If you do, go become one. Don’t change your avatar either. I mean there is nothing there. Which makes sense, since there is nothing in your head either.

Objectivity

I find it hysterical you of all people ask for particulars. You don’t really wsnt them. You merely want to find a way to solidify your opinion as fact in your mind. I’m sorry, I’m really just having fun reading your responses trying to put a name to each of the issues. Kind of like extra credit. You will probably end up as a case study.

Sagamanus

Yes you are so superior. If only I had the the wisdom you profess to possess. Perhaps I could join a white men’s movement somewhere for the truth.

Objectivity

Oh geez. Its not that complicated. Read the story you commented on. But I will warn you… the facts will need repudiation from a certified MRA hunter. I’ll let you know if I see any.

Boring. Every article there is from a legion of scorned pedo’s who make up stories. Not one of you have ever had anything happen that you didn’t make up.

Sagamanus

You are already a case study and your clan of idiots pretending to be neutral.

Objectivity

I have no clan. But you want me to because a vampire hunter needs a vampire. You have read it incorrectly, but again, please do not let the facts get inbthe way of your opinion.

Sagamanus

There you go again. Facts huh? Let’s also pretend that half of mass shooters are women too. If men rule at the top of the froth, you can bet its the same behind closed doors and domestic violence.

Objectivity

Look, squirrel! Ha… now you pretend I talk about mass shooters. Can you stay on topic or is that not really why you are here? Are you here to defend domestic violence or are you desperately trying to get the cat back in the bag? Either way your intentional disregard for the truth exposes your hate. But you have a right to it.

Sagamanus

Yawn. Typical stupid MRA tactic pretend nothing else has to do with anything else. From low rung to top rung men rule in violence against each other and others. Case closed.

Objectivity

Women actually are as violent as men in all modern research. I know you want to believe what you are saying is true, but look at the name of the article… the unspoken truth… and you’d apparently like to keep it unspoken… Hide it, because you hate so much you’d rather cover up the truth than accept it.

Sagamanus

Cover up the truth of which you are in possession of right?

Paul Johnson

And you’re not clearly a hateful ideologue pushing a threat narrative against half the population?

Sagamanus

No such thing as misandry no matter how much you purport there is. I’m a man are you saying I hate men and can’t crit them? Of course you are, for you no man has ever done anything wrong.

Paul Johnson

There have been plenty of incidents where women have glassed men in the face, nearly killing them. Women throw things (sometimes a purse, sometimes a glass ash-tray), use weapons, or proxy violence.

Sagamanus

Sure there have. To defend themselves yes.

Objectivity

Are you in a personal war with MRA groups? Do you see them everywhere you go? You bring them up a lot as if it is your idol you hold up as the evil you can point to and chant around. If MRA groups are as sexist as many of the feminist groups out there then I would share your disdain for them. However, what MRAs and feminists fight about is inconsequential to the facts. Each of these fringe groups have a right to their opinions and sexist behavior, but no one has a right to their own facts.

Sagamanus

They are everywhere I go. They post long disertation like statements that reek of being machines. There paragraphs are also very bulky as if they can’t shut up.

Objectivity

I figured. Once they enter your psyche they grow exponentially.

Sagamanus

They’re like you a tumor.

Objectivity

Oh geez. Ran out of content and just went with name calling? Now that’s not interesting at all. Third grade at best. I expect much more based on the depth of hate you have to share.

Sagamanus

Hating your movement is a legitimate occupation. As you are all a bunch of Rogers and Lapine’s.

Objectivity

I dont have a movement but I do like how it is your go to insult whenever you are wrong. Your go to move is to paint the other as part of this huge oppressive devil… then I see you folding your arms, stompingvyour feet and scream “There!”

Sagamanus

That sounds more like you if anything. You keep coming back as well. Saying nothing that would convince anyone either. You must be some kind of brat whose had problems with women all his life. Sorry but feminism ain’t going away. You’re proof of that,

objectivity

I know you are but what am I? Really, you just used that as your argument? Feminism was a great cause, but those like you have used it as a shield of hate. True feminism is identical to masculism and neither is bad for the other… but what it has become is just another arm of the KKK. A group so filled with hate they can’t accept truth if were handed to them in a research paper. This version of feminism and MRA will fold and yield to those who don’t want to hate others. The hatred need only be revealed in order to get the evil in the open. You are doing a fine job and I thank you.

Sagamanus

Another arm of the KKK? Lol. No you’re not an MRA you just completely sound like one. What a ridiculous statement.

Paul Johnson

I swear to God, you must be a CIA plant. NOBODY really believes Lapine or Rodger (not Rogers) was an MRA.

Sagamanus

A CIA plant? Take off your tinfoil hat. For once. The term barely existed then. But they’re protos.

Paul Johnson

That was a while ago.

Paul Johnson

Fortunately it’s a free world. You can believe whatever you want to believe so long as you obey the law!

Sagamanus

The cops don’t even obey the law. So why should anyone else.

Paul Johnson

I’m just saying you have a chip on your shoulder and seem potentially quite violent. Everything’s fine and dandy as long as you keep your urges in the comments section. I can see you popping off on some guy for saying something factual. Just don’t hurt anybody, dude.

Sagamanus

The only violent people are the Lapine’s that make up 100% of your movement. Oh and you guys aren’t in possession of any facts. Well almost none. The FACT you love children in a sexual manner is quite apt.

Objectivity

“He does deserve it.”
No he doesn’t. If one man gets away with rape you say it is ok for a woman somewhere else to hit a man that had nothing to do with a rape. As if hurting innocent people solely based on their gender is just punishment for someone else having hurt one of the other gender. As if each gender is all part of the same body. This is how racists justify themselves as well. It is logical fallacy, nothing more than justification that allows one to hate another based on the appearance of a group rather than action of the individual.

Sagamanus

Yeah throwing a purse at someone is the same as an uppercut. Only in your F’d up head.

Michael

So because you think that “men get away with rape and abuse on an exponentially larger scale than anything women get away with” I deserve to get hit by a woman? That’s the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Sagamanus

You don’t get hit by women. You’ve never been hit by a women. Stop exaggerating women going around just beating people up. You’re a low commenting fraud who is probably TheGhostofJH.

Harmon Jenkins

So tell me, where exactly did you get this magical crystal ball of yours that gives you knowledge of every domestic violence case as well as every second of the life of the person you were just responding to? I want one!

Sagamanus

You don’t have a domestic violence problem. You’re more likely to be the abuser and probably are.

Harmon Jenkins

It’s like you want women to be the victims and males to be the monsters. Again, where did you get the crystal ball?

Sagamanus

Probably not the same place where you got your logic.

Paul Johnson

She NEEDS women to be the victims. If the truth ever made it into her skull it would fracture her delicate psyche.

Oh my god! I love internet trolls! You make an otherwise uninteresting evening so much more entertaining.

Sagamanus

You are a low commenter coming into an article where you want anonymity. I’ve been coming to this site for more than 5 years and have several thousand comments here. You sir are the troll. And if that’s what you do for fun, find something else to do with your time.

Michael

I don’t care if you have been here for 5 years, you’re the one calling anyone who disagrees with you mutants and MRAs. I’ve looked at your comments on this article, as well as others, and most of them are irrational name calling and just baseless accusations. This is an otherwise enlightening article and discussion.

Sagamanus

You just called me a troll moron. Despite you having one comment to your name, made for the purposes of concealing your main account. You don’t know what that word means despite being one.

And get lost. Nothing I say is irrational. All of it stems from encountering wackos like you who is most likely the other idiot now under your sock account.

Paul Johnson

So what’s your name?

Sagamanus

Why you want to jerk me off after you stalk me? Guarantee you’ll be the one on the ground. And that’s not a sexual position if you were salivating about it.

Paul Johnson

You’re the one talking shit about people being anonymous. I don’t see you speaking under your name.

Sagamanus

Why would I do that? You clearly don’t understand context of reply. Your side loves to dox and stalk. What you want to stick your tongue in my backside?

Paul Johnson

WOW! You are a class-A bigot.

Sagamanus

Can’t be a bigot against men. Misandry doesn’t exist. It would be like running over someone and calling it genocide. You idiots constantly trying to get new meaning to words is not working. It makes you look like Goebbels.

Objectivity

Own your bigotry… stop running from it. Look in the mirror, textbook sexism.

Sagamanus

No such thing as misandry. You childish little wretch.

Objectivity

Own your bigotry. Stop running from it. Look in the mirror, textbook sexism.

Jay Henriksen

He does deserve it? Because he’s a guy? How can you speak out about sexism when you are so blatantly sexist?

The ignorance is strong with this one…

47ronin100

Wow, you seem like a real badass.

Angster

This wreaks of low life trash…you and them.

cross

that all you got? Im not an MRA i am an egalitarian… I look for true equality not manufactured B.S.

Sagamanus

Egalatarian? Lol. Only MRA nutjobs looking for easy cover call
themselves that. We can only hope a woman curb stomps you one of these
days. We can only hope.

cross

WOW your response is epic!!! you are against violence against women, however you don’t mind seeing a man be “stomped” by said female! and when man (such as myself) defends himself against this aggressive female, she will be considered the victim! I think you suffer from what is called cognitive bias with a side of cognitive dissonance! this is a common disorder in feminist avenger, Captain save a ho,e males as well as man-hating females.

Sagamanus

You are not a victim. You’re full of shit. You make it sound as if men are being attacked day and night everywhere, and were it not for the ‘Socialist’ govt. protecting women and preventing men from defending themselves you would rise up. What about all the men getting away with rape? And if you’re a male athlete you can get away with easily. You have nothing to worry about as a male but for other males. All of which you will defend as just boys being boys. So spare me. Not to mention most of you wacko’s are worried about white males – you know the greastest and most maligned victims in history according to your side. This is where you step in and tell me you’re black or you have black friends who all agree with you right?

Stop defending men for everything they do. If you have a problem in your life I doubt it’s the woman that’s to blame.

cross

they are, just look at the media! look at your everyday male who may look at another woman and is assaulted by his wife, girlfriend etc. slap punch hit etc. although many blow it off we see this and blow it off. here is a you tube social research that illustrates my point … http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3PgH86OyEM
as you see in the video female violence is seen as funny, male on female violence is seen as serious and action must be taken! i say all violence is bad. we must teach females that it is not fashionable to strike your male partner! however feminist avengers such as yourself show a great deal of cognitive bias and deny the problem even exists! BTW I am a Black male, and I see how feminist ideology has ruined the community

t-man

My wife tried to kill her self in front of my son and my self. My wife was putting her hands on me for two and a half years ans nothing happened to her. One day I was going to leave her and I tried to take my son with me. My wife called the police and a female cop show up and tried to tease me. It was a good thing that a sheriff show up right after she did because I might of been dead if she had her way. The sad is that I didn’t do anything bur still got charged with domestic violence. Don’t tell me that women don’t get away with domestic violence because they do!

Sagamanus

Another full of shit story. You throw a female cop into the mix as well? Men get away with abuse infinitely more as they commit it in epidemic numbers without consequence. My dad was a domestic abuser and if there is one thing I remember, it’s that he was never in jail for it. In a world of supposed matriarchal overlords as your side likes to endlessly wag on, apparently the real rapists, domestic abusers, serial killers and invisible empire that has created every war in history has been women. I just can’t take you crackpots seriously. You know you might very well be telling the truth with your story. However it would be irrelevant. Since cops get away with murdering people everyday, brutalizing blacks and Muslims, killing dogs endlessly, enforcing the status quo and suppressing protests with extreme violence. In the midst of that don’t expect a fair shake, as other men are the ones exercising that order with a few attack dogs of another gender or race as good cover.

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t-man

First of all my wife was putting her hand on me for almost years and the only reason why I didn’t call the police is because we have a son together and she also work the county at the time so I wasn’t trying to mess her job up. Second, my wife tried to kill herself two months prior to this incident in front of my son and myself so you really don’t know what your talking about because you wasn’t there. Third, if you had someone in your past that committed domestic violence, I’m sorry about that but that doesn’t mean that all men are domestic violent offenders. The men in today’s society are paying for what men in the past have done. You make it seem like women can’t committed domestic violence and we see on TV everyday with the reality shows and the general public thinks that this is O.K., IT ISN’T!!!!!!!! Domestic violence against men is real so stop trying to make this issue seem like it’s not real. The only way that this issue is going to stop is to start treating women who committed domestic violence the same way that they treat men that commit domestic violence, IN JAIL!!!!!!

Sagamanus

You said a funny an stupid thing. Men who commit domestic violence overwhelmingly get away with it. I mean can you read? My dad did not go to jail for it, yet here you are talking about a problem that rarely ever sees men punished, but you want women to go to jail for it?

t-man

What part of the country are you from! Where I”m from domestic violence is taken very seriously. I have serious issues because you’re not r-understanding anything. Women commit domestic violence all the time, it just isn’t considered domestic violence. I don’t know what state you live in but where I live, if a domestic dispute in called in, someone has to go to jail by law.

Sagamanus

You are a ridiculous man. Men rarely ever suffer consequences for domestic abuse. Who cares how many go to jail. It will never be the amount that actually should be in jail.

t-man

I’ve suffered domestic violence at the handsof my wife you make it seem like it’s. My fault that that happen! Look, I don’t know if you’ve been abused as a child or something happened to where you think all men are abusers but I think you need to go talk to a therapist because your way of thinking isn’t logical. What happened to me is real and I’m going to tell you again, YOU WASN’T THERE SO STOP ACTING LIKE YOU WAS!!!!!!! It’s people like you there reason why men don’t report domestic violence to the police because they don’t believe us because they think that men are the only ones that commit domestic violence and we all know that’s not true. I just hope that you get some help because you really need it.

Objectivity

Your facts are nothing more than hate speech. Little of what you write is true, but who cares, right? It allows you to stay angry and full of hate. There are other groups in this country that do the same thing, but withvthecfreedom of speech come the necessity of letting ignorance speak. If more people could hear you, the faster they would run from your cause. It took some time to get here, but those that speak like you are being exposed for nothing more than one who hates and hides behind their own opinions for justification. Please continue. The more you hate the fewer will follow.

Sagamanus

You’re pathetic. You’re the real hate group here. Saying that about this side of the fence is like a Nazi saying he was the true human rights advocate and the person who was attacking him was the real racist. You are not making the inbounds you think you are. The shear amount of crackpots on your side(all of them) fill the sewers to the brim. You’ll have more Elliot Rogers that is all.

Objectivity

Nope. Nope. And nope.

Sagamanus

Nope what? Elliot is in your brain. You can’t hide from him.

Objectivity

Don’t know any Elliott… you brang him to the conversation. Came right out of your brain and then you say I have him in mine. Is anything you say true or do you pride yourself on having a truth only onto yourself?

Ha! I don’t get offended by women. I generally don’t get offended by anyone because I believe everyone has a right to be a moron. I don’t see lines drawn by gender. I see hate groups of men AND women and find a lot of humor in their desperate attempts to force their hate on others, pretending there is justification for their twisted minds. They continuously turn others into something they hate, because most of the time, the others are not something they hate… but the mind of a hater cannot come to terms with that… so they pretend the other person is their “go to” evil talisman in order to continue to hate. Some hate because of color of skin, others due to race, and yet others for religions. I don’t hate for any of these… I pity those that do. What a horrible waste of a life. I judge people on their actions, and no matter what is between your legs (although you say you are a white male… wouldn’t be your first lie) you are a hater… male or female, your gender is so completely inconsequential to the evil that lies within. The irony is that your abusive style, demeaning statements and willingness to lie to gain advantage is all the living proof this article needs. Again, I thank you for your honesty.

Sagamanus

And you might want to check on your ten mile long paragraphs. Only MRA’s feel a need to write comments that long.

Objectivity

And only those with the ability to read can comprehend them. No MRA affiliation, but you might want to look into some local college courses before continuing. But with your inability to apparently take in facts, on the other hand, it would probably be pointless.

Sagamanus

You have nothing to say windbag Hindenburg.

Objectivity

If you have the inability to read, you’ll find no one has anything to say.

Sagamanus

You have possibly 12hrs before auto-cancellation. Where you then can go back and whine how white males have it tougher than anyone else.

Objectivity

You have no control here. You seem to miss that point again and again. Your abuse, your power of hate, your sense of entitlement… all useless in the real world.

Sagamanus

Cancelled. 11 hrs and counting.

Objectivity

Still no. On Oct 7, you retweeted, “Hard to believe that people open accounts with the sole intention of insulting others & getting blocked. What sad, pathetic lives they lead.” And yet, here you are.

Sagamanus

I haven’t blocked anyone you loser. And my account is not private while a guy with a fake account is. My guess is I already know you and this account is your pathetic cry for help account.

Objectivity

I never said you blocked anyone. Again, you say things and attribute it to me. It’s basic comprehension of the written word. Your ignorance is either intentional, or you just don’t take the time to let the words tell the story. You’ve told yours, and I understand what you write and respond to it. Even though we disagree, we have a right to communicate it. Normally facts are used, but intolerant rants filled with insults is also a communication method. Normally used by those that refuse to listen, or hear, anything but what they believe. How do you think religion has lasted as long as it has with all the facts out there? And 12 hours is not the procedure to be removed. But if you believe it, it is real.

Sagamanus

You are not deserving of anything but insults. I’m not interested in your stupid MRA positions on things. You’re not even human. And yes you are an illiterate windbag, who has never even heard of line breaks.

Objectivity

You don’t have anything but insults. The funniest part is that you keep bringing MRA into it. Apparently your go-to evil you fight. I’m not a part of that. They have ingrained themselves in your psyche and you can’t shake it. Your demons are your own, not mine. So continue to fight them with insults while the rest of us adults talk about issues with logic and fact.

Sagamanus

Haha. You are barely literate and not deserved of anything but insults. You have 6 hrs before auto cancellation.

Objectivity

I am not afraid of you. Bullies need to be stood up to and exposed for what they are. At least we know you can count. It’s a start…

Sagamanus

You are laughable.

Objectivity

At least the hate is taking a back seat if not just for a moment. You’re welcome.

Sagamanus

You’re a moron and deserved of nothing but contempt. Your account will be imminently cancelled.

Objectivity

In your world I have been canceled, yet in the real world, I continue to respond. Your threats don’t scare me. You are powerless. That must be hard to reconcile for you, but take a minute and digest it. For all your roaring, for all your hate, for all your threats, I’m still here. Unafraid of the opressing, abusive bully who rants with hate and insults, completely blind of facts. Here you are exposed in front of everyone, not by me, but by yourself. You cannot control everyone.

Sagamanus

Haha. I think you could give a chimp a run for its money in the telepathy dept.

Objectivity

You don’t deny any of it so it all must true. Isn’t that how you believe? By ignoring what is said, you accept it as the truth. We’re making progress.

Sagamanus

Boring. Your account is about to be cancelled.

Objectivity

Your threats won’t stop the truth. You can try to kill every last person you are bigoted against, but as Hitler found out, the truth of what you do leaves you alone and cowering in a hole society finds you in.

Sagamanus

Dude I think I know you. You sound like Indiana.

Objectivity

You would probably like me if you knew me… but that could be said about many faceless names on the Internet I suppose. I’m sure I would like you if I knew you, and maybe we do know each other. Regardless of politics or views on the world.

Objectivity

I’m 3 hours past your self-imposed deadline. You are not looking very believable. You do realize that I place no stock in the threat of bullies, and I will gladly stand up and prove them wrong. Maybe more of the abused will learn that you can stand up to tyrants, and then maybe one day, society will catch up to true equality, where abuse is scorned and is not tolerated, regardless of the gender of the one abused or the abuser themselves.

Sagamanus

Like that was even real you moron. Who would take it seriously but a guy like you? Jesus! Lol. No such thing as misandry except in your own head.

Objectivity

So now we know you lie to try to gain control. You insult to deflect facts that are contrary to your beliefs, and somehow you want anyone to believe anything you say? Misandry is apparently live and well, and the only place it doesn’t exist is in your head. But if you lie, insult and deflect, you might just get to keep holding your bigoted opinions as facts. The rest of us see you transparently for whom you are. Thank you for making the point.

Sagamanus

You are a certified ignoramus. Your account will be cancelled in 12 hrs!

Objectivity

Back to name-calling. Do you actually have anything to say that isn’t a lie, an insult, threat or attempt to control? You are an abuser. Feel free to rant, but you have no power. Your words are idle threats based on lies and fallacies. You cannot be taken seriously in any circle of debate. Full of hate and contempt, your only allies are lies, insults and deceit. It is apparently all you have to work with. I’d pity you, but I don’t believe you are so ignorant you can’t do better. You are so ignorant, you choose not to.

Sagamanus

11hrs till you implode!

Objectivity

So, you have run out of language. So soon? Have you grown tired of trying to keep up the lies? You have shown a lot about yourself and although much of what you write is fake, a troll still shows their character. It doesn’t matter your gender, does it. All can be equally abusive. But when you are confronted and your abuse does no damage, you become bored and want to move on, but you can’t. You can’t. I’m here for every post. I might even copy our dialog and upload it elsewhere, giving you full credit with links. We’ll see how others’ views change when they see what you do in your spare time.

Your ability to reason has been questioned, your opinions washed out by facts, your insults confronted by not backing down, and your ignorance exposed by your own hands. Your futile attempts at control through bullying failed, your invalid excuses on subject matter you know little about, taken apart piece by piece and you become monosyllabic. Crawl back into your safe-haven of childish threats, acquiescing to the power of fact, but you will not be given a free pass to bully others online.

Sagamanus

I see that you are in no danger of running out of hot air. Just for the record I don’t read a word over one sentence when it comes to you. So I suggest you forego all commas and periods. Making one sentence in total.

Objectivity

You don’t get it, do you? It’s not about you. I don’t think you could read a word over one sentence. You haven’t actually gotten past the first few words in most posts you respond to. You’re not about reading what others say… you are only about propagating lies, deceit, hidden agendas, insults and threats to try and control others. When it hits too close to home you stop reading and hurl insults. Keep your head in the sand, or wherever else you seem to keep it, and don’t learn, don’t grow, stay ignorant. People like you are the problem society has. Your great entitlement to condescend to others… no matter how ignorantly you do it. If I were to forego commas or periods, you still couldn’t read it. But again, this is not written for you. What we have done is for others… those who want to see who you are when you rant at them. Now, they have something to review. Nothing but ignorance, and they’ll realize they are not communicating with someone who has any thought or should carry any weight in a debate. Nothing but a troll. I actually haven’t had someone go so far as you have gone in completing the entire task before. But now you’re out there for all to see. Thank you! You have served your purpose to me.

Sagamanus

Account cancelling imminent. No one is going to read that.

Objectivity

But they do. You’ve put on quite a show. Again, thank you. You don’t catch on as quickly as most, but you’ve fulfilled your part in the plan. Anything more is just icing. Keep it coming.

Sagamanus

Your ability to churn out para after para without saying a god damn thing is astonishing. You get paid by the letter right?

Objectivity

That’s the funny thing. You get confused and think nothing is said, when in actuality, you just don’t understand. Based on how you respond, like any abuser, you would blame the one speaking for your ignorance of the conversation. Still in character, good. But if you stay in character long enough, you do become as ignorant as the character you play.

Sagamanus

Lol. Yeah I’m the abuser and not you morons who think white guys are having a tough go at things.

Objectivity

All people have a tough go at things. It’s the lazy ones that blame whoever or whatever they can for their failure. Yes, some white males have things given them, some white females have things given to them, some black males have things given to them, some black females have things given to them. Poor you. Do what most white and black men and women do and earn it. I had nothing given to me. It was a hard road filled with a lot of hard work, but I didn’t cry about not having things given to me. I went out and worked for them. But yes, let’s pretend it’s not that way so you can blame others for your failure. Based on your responses, the mirror is your enemy, not [insert blame group here]. Poor you. Get over yourself and look inside for your failure.

Sagamanus

What a windbag. You’re on this article because you blame women for things, and then talk to me about not blaming anyone. Honestly you should consider 1000 sleeping pills before bed.

Objectivity

Funny, I don’t blame all women for anything one woman does. I blame her. Weird concept right? Your cognitive ability fluctuates greatly, or maybe you it only appears you understand at times. I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day. The research done is clear. Refute it all you want. If you say the sky is green and then call me names because I say it is blue, it’s on you for ignorance. Facts are on the side of the article. I blame each man who is violent for his violence. I blame each woman who is violent for her violence. And I blame each ignorant online abuser for their own words, you included. You are an abuser who loves to demean and control. You are textbook definition of an abuser.

Sagamanus

If you think this is abuse, and it compares to what men do to women, you really are stretching the concept of victimhood. I would not keep kids around someone like you.

Objectivity

Ahhh.. deflection. I happened to have raised four, all very successful. You could have used a role model to teach you self worth, that if you could only succeed if you tried. I’m sure we both agree that if you were a role model, the kids would grow up hating everyone that didn’t look like them and instead of trying for success, they would stew in a pool of hatred lashing out at facts, calling names and continuing in their spiral of failure. I don’t cry about what others get. I take pride in what I accomplish. And that is the future generation. Your cesspool of hate is two generations ago. Society has passed your thinking, and it angers you. You are old news. You are the lies of a previous generation, you are powerless and it angers you. Understood.

Sagamanus

Haha. Go climb a mountain and jump off of it. Yeah society has passed me by. It’s going to embrace someone who thinks white guys are the most victimized group on Earth instead.

Objectivity

Why do you use logical fallacies in every post? You keep stating white men are… white men are… Your understanding of the issues is ignorantly flawed… if you start from there, who can blame you for coming to the wrong conclusion? You really need to read more… not emotionally charged blogs where your sole purpose is to call names, but actual articles and reseach. Educate yourself not on politics and hysteria, but on fact.

Sagamanus

Haha. What are the facts again honkie?

Objectivity

Why? You admit you don’t read… or as you said, you can’t read more than a sentence… maybe you should go find them on audio tape.

Sagamanus

Yeah I’m sure I would listen to you on audiotape. I doubt you could answer a multiple choice question without a dissertation.

Objectivity

How did you misunderstand that one? I may have given you too much credit. It’s not intentional ignorance is it.

Objectivity

And yes. What you do is textbook abuse, but I don’t give you that power. You write as if you want to be more abusive, you are just powerless to do so. That is some psyche you got going. Abuse is abuse… you don’t get to change what is or what is not abuse to fit your opinion… you can for yourself, but it is comical to watch you pretend your opinion is fact. Again it boils down to a hate so strong it doesn’t allow you to comprehend the bigger picture. You only see a pixel and scream it is the picture.

Sagamanus

Makes a loud horn sound. It summons the windbag dragons.

Objectivity

And…. you’re back. Lack of understanding, or is it just getting too close to the truth that scares you? It goes against all you believe so you call names to make it not real. To try to correlate the truth with your belief… this is where you stick your fingers in your ears and hum. It beats having to come to terms with the truth.

Sagamanus

It’s you who keeps replying to me. I didn’t even hear of you before you decided to write me a love letter for a ten year old article. Who are you again? And how many Doritos did you consume?

Objectivity

Oh… so you aren’t responding at all? Weird how you take no responsibility, right. Logical fallacy again, but the only one you fool is yourself.

Sagamanus

Men’s rightists. Morons to the core. I have no responsibility. And I owe you idiots nothing. This is an ancient article bozo. The onus is on you to drop dead. Now go get your shine box.

Objectivity

Of course you have no responsibilty, that would mean accountability. But you want neither… you want to wallow in self pity and blame others for it. Own your failure, own your future. Blame others and you just stay in the same spiral you have so perfectly painted.

Sagamanus

I have self pity? Lol. I don’t even think you understand words you illiterate Lemur. What exactly did I fail at again? Enlighten me. Apparently I should be responsible to a a whackjob on the net who thinks I owe him something.
Now go and try practicing self-lynching at the end of a bungee cord.

Objectivity

You don’t owe me anything. You owe it to yourself to take responsibility for your life and your failure. No one is this angry who has succeeded. White men are to blame for your failure. That’s pretty much the extent of your message through hundreds of posts. Get over it, pick yourself up and succeed, even if it means your hatred is misplaced.

Sagamanus

You are the failure, not me. And I will ask you again. Is your name Cecilia?

Objectivity

“I know you are but what am I?” Seriously, that’s your response? And no, I told you it’s not Cecilia, maybe you should try another guess?

Sagamanus

Yeah, cause you repeating yourself like that wasn’t the start of it all. Stop using words, you don’t know what they mean.

Objectivity

I will not stop using words. That is how ignorance continues. It appears you tell everyone around you to shut up… that way you can have your bliss without pesky facts getting in the way.

Sagamanus

Haha. Yeah I’m censoring you with law no doubt. The Puppetmaster has spoken. Jesus. I bet you think you’re own eventual suicide will be an act of heroism.

Objectivity

Now your just putting random words together hoping they mean something. They don’t. Next?

Sagamanus

Who’s trying the ‘I know you are but what am I’ thing now? Cecilia is it?

Objectivity

You? Strange questions you use… look up the term.

Sagamanus

Did you ever imagine yourself as a pirate? How about an illiterate one? Well you have the latter down pact, and 1 out of 2 ain’t bad.

Objectivity

Random. Fallacy. But no.

Sagamanus

Psst. Over here.

Objectivity

You’re fun to play with.

Sagamanus

Over here…psst!

Objectivity

And you somehow think you’re not responsible for your own failure. Classic. You’ve got nothing left, do you. Your vocabulary is limited. Do it again, you can’t help yourself. It’s who you are. Weak and powerless due to your own personality, so you go incognito on the Internet to see what it’s like to be the bully. Problem is, you still blame others in the real life, so not only are you powerless here, you’re powerless to correct it. Rather than try, you just blame others.

Sagamanus

My failure? Haha. Holy crap, as the resident chimpanzee you are, you really have a high horse view of things. Stop doing so much cocaine.

Objectivity

Yes, your failure is due to you and no one else.

Sagamanus

I haven’t failed at anything. But of course you would know, after all you can read minds.

Objectivity

I don’t have to read minds, only what you’ve written. You have failed. You have admitted to lying in order to maintain control, at which you failed, you fail to comprehend, you fail to read, you fail badic logic and you blame others for it. I dont have to read your mind, you state it very clearly.

Sagamanus

Haha. Yeah you’re a clever puppetmaster, steering the debate, making the calls and capturing information on the enemy. What was that about a web and deception?

Objectivity

That’s the greatest part. There was no deception, I just kept feeding you rope, and like the multitude of people like you on the web, you just couldn’t stop yourself. Most others did figure it out, but you’re still fun.

Sagamanus

The puppetmaster strikes again! What new and cunning plan do you have in store for me!?

Objectivity

You should already know the answer to that. You really don’t read much of what others write. At least there is one thing you were honest about.

Sagamanus

Strike of the puppetmaster!

Objectivity

But the puppet is so willing. It’s what makes you fun.

Sagamanus

You must lead a very eventful life.

Objectivity

I do, thank you. And I have met many people. But the weird thing is most I meet, no matter gender, no matter race, no matter religion… all have an interest in making things better. Rarely do you find someone screaming insults trying to pretend things are the same as they were 50 years ago, so they can remain avictim, blaming others for failure and doing nothing to make it better for the next generation. Responses like yours, ignorant of the truth, get society nowhere, but that is your goal. It means your failure is not your responsibility, doesn’t it? Unfortunately for your point of view, accountability and responsibility are the cornerstones of equality. But equality means you have to be responsible for your own success or failure… we can’t have that, but we scream for equality… it’s a catch 22 you can’t escape.

Sagamanus

Didn’t read that. And your absurdly long paragraphs containing words but no substance are ridiculous. If you think anyone else is going to read that, it would be like trying to grab onto a cloud. Good luck Horn of loser!

Objectivity

Appears I have lost you again. I do expect you understand only a small percent of the big picture, but you can live on your pixel.

Sagamanus

Can you spell deluded? Can you say tragic-romantic with an excessively floral and high view of himself? Objectivity is thy name. A parasite stalker living on Doritos and raindrop dialysis.

Objectivity

Oh-oh, reusing previously posted words, but this time not in context. You have run out of vocabulary already? No wonder your posts contain only insults and bigotry. You really don’t appear to know anything else. You’re not as fun anymore.

Sagamanus

You are beyond boring. My guess Dennis O’Keefe huh? And all you do is say the same thing. That I’m going to be churned like butter in this Ragnarok of yours. I can’t even take you seriously.

Objectivity

You don’t have the capacity to take things seriously. You show only basic human instincts of fight or flight… and the only fight you have are insults and lies. That would get tiring.

Sagamanus

You blow into a Tuba all day don’t you?

Objectivity

Nope, but I can appreciate one well-played. And you… a kazoo?

Sagamanus

Is your name Cecilia?

Objectivity

No, but keep guessing, there aren’t too many to go through.

Sagamanus

Nah. I’m not you. Who happens to be Cecilia Meadowlark the third.

Objectivity

Deflect…dodge…insult. that could probably be the appropriate response to 99% of your posts. I really did think it was intentional, that you were going somewhere, but you’re not, are you? You don’t have a point, you only have negative response. Well that’s got to be a lot easier for you, especially when you’ve already stated you take no responsibility. The picture is filling in.

Sagamanus

There is nothing to deflect. You have no argument. No substance. And you can barely even read or write. What is your level of literacy? Do you paint with a stylus at the end of your elephant trunk?

Objectivity

Elephant… wow! That’s a pretty big word for you. Ever seen one in the wild (not in a zoo)? They are impressive. But why elephants now? Just pop into your head?

You’ve used the words ad hominem, so I assumed you looked it up at some point. You realize it is part of a family called logical fallacy. Look that up. Your posts represent every member of the family.

Sagamanus

You love your CRT don’t you? Would you say it was a substitute child Cecilia?

Objectivity

A fetish of yours? Did she hurt you when you were growing up? See, we don’t blame all girls named Cecilia, do we? Maybe we just need a new line of thinking for you. Give me some more to work with. Who else hurt you? They were wrong and you didn’t deserve it, but we could turn your bad experience with Cecilia or anyone else in your past to a learning experience you might understand. Let’s do this.

Sagamanus

It’s possible I’m your only friend on the net. Perhaps I can teach you to both read and write?

Objectivity

Good morning sleepyhead. Wondered if I kept you up too late. Some of us who don’t blame others have been up working for hours. And don’t kid yourself, your online persona is no ones friend. Based on your responses, it is quite clear you would be hard-pressed to teach anyone anything but intolerance, hate, sexism, bigotry, abuse, bullying and then dodging it all with logical fallacy. They would learn not because you could actually teach it, but would be completely dependent upon their ability to learn through example.

Sagamanus

Cecilia that you? Another hot-air balloon statement with nothing but exaggeration. You have herpes don’t you? And a twitch?

Objectivity

Your abuse continues. But I do not give you any power, so you fail. Fumble around some more. You are a top notch abuser and bully, but as with all bullies, you just end up alone, hating yourself and everyone else, blaming them for your constant failure. It’s no wonder you advocate so hard that only others can abuse. It’s part of your bully mentality that is the reason for your constant failure. Maybe some day you’ll grow up mentally, but historically, your odds are not good.

Sagamanus

Lol. I hate myself eh!? Haha. Don’t confuse me hating you with that. You’re just a member of the scorned. Tell me how you blamed your mom when your dad was the abusive one?

Objectivity

Neither of my parents were abusive to me or each other, and I quickly left a relationship where she felt she had the right to be physically violent, not to mention the screeching insults that put yours to shame. She took no responsibility either. Come to think of it, you two have a lot in common. Your hatred of yourself causes you to lash out at others throwing blame everywhere hoping beyond hope it sticks to anything but you. But you are your own worst enemy… you can lift yourself out, but it has become you. The hate is part of who you accept yourself as… to lose that would be to lose yourself. Most adult failures follow your same path.

Sagamanus

Cuckoo, cuckoo! You feel that? A gulf stream of hot air sweeping up over everyone. Dennis O’Keefe please!

Objectivity

You desperately need that to be the case to deflect. But it’s not. You can’t change reality by insulting it, but that shouldn’t stop you from trying.

Sagamanus

You have no facts. No argument. And no business here. You do however, have a penchant for elevating ennui to an artform, and making chimpanzees into a plastic taxidermy that you can stretch and spin to win arguments.

Objectivity

I do research for a living. When I see articles like this and read the backing research, along with due diligence of methodology, I find it hysterical when those without the ability to do the same somehow think their opinions carry the same weight as fact. Become educated and we can discuss issues. Otherwise, I’ll just continue to play with you, your hate and your uneducated opinions. You have brushed off all facts you don’t agree with, a most tragic way to come to a conclusion… because you have already concluded and you only entertain those facts that seem to correlate with your opinion, even though they don’t. But you don’t seem like you could possibly understand most of what I write, so I play.

Sagamanus

Lol. Research eh? Why don’t you research your family history to discover the origins of your psychopathic behavior. At this point you’re just trying to get the last word in. You really must lead an eventful life. Go clean your crumb-catcher beard, and let out some more hot air. And no you don’t have any facts.

Objectivity

I have gathered the facts on everything I talk about. If you went into an auditorium, in front of researchers and presented your theories (a.k.a. your personal opinions) and pretended they were fact, you’d be questioned. And your first response would be to insult the person asking, since you can’t answer the question. At that point, you’d be laughed out of the conference. I’ve researched the facts, understand the methodology and the report in this article is on point. Anything to the contrary will have to be met with facts that disprove any portion. Not opinions and name calling that don’t want it to be true, but facts, researched and vetted. Since you have name-calling as your fact, I say again… let’s just play instead. You’re more well-equipped to do that than to educate yourself to think through issues and come to conclusions that the facts bring you to… not to the ones your opinions always draw you back to.

Sagamanus

But you don’t seem like you could possibly understand most of what I write.

Objectivity

1) Name implies your subjective lies and distortions are objective. Not to mention the snooty arrogance of a guy whose religion is a practicing self-delusion.

2) You’re barely literate, and I bet you make escutcheons for a living. All with your face on them.

3) How could anyone understand what you write, since you don’t say anything?

Objectivity

Well, you can copy/paste. That’s something. What are you so afraid of?

Sagamanus

Shortest sentence ever. It must have been tough…not as tough as being illiterate though I’m sure.

Objectivity

See, you don’t answer questions, you don’t have discussions… you merely insult. So let’s keep playing. Spewing hate, bigotry and insults appears to be the only thing you are capable of.

Sagamanus

????

Objectivity

Suddenly you pretend to understand English. You know what it is called when you shift a conversation because you have no response to the issue? Deflection. And do you know what part of communication that is? Logical fallacy. You bathe in it in almost every post… but you don’t know how to swim, so you struggle, lashing out in a feeble attempt to regain your hate in an ocean of fact. The more you lash out, the more you drift from reality… but that is your choice. You are of course free to drown in your own pool of bigotry. Either way you become inconsequential in the conversation. To be relevant, you need to widen your horizons and view the bigger picture. You are pixilated on hate, and it doesn’t allow you to see much more than your own misguided point of view.

Sagamanus

Lol. I love how people dismiss me as irrelevant and then keep coming back over and over again. Aren’t you suppose to leave after you say that and never come back?

Objectivity

I said you were irrelevant in the conversation about the article. You spend precious little time on the subject, but overload on insults, threats and online abuse. You are the epitome of the exact thing you are so afraid of. You are your own demon, screaming about things you yourself are guilty of. Yes, you are irrelevant in the discussion, but that doesn’t mean you will be left alone to abuse. You count on being able to beat others into submission with insults and angry tirades. But it won’t work. In the long run you fight a losing battle, not against others who oppress and abuse, but against yourself. In the end you cannot reconcile the vile hate you spew without giving vile hate to opposing viewpoints, be it right or wrong. You don’t seem to care. And that needs to be exposed and fought with every breath of every American. Your hate speech does nothing positive. It never has, it never will. Instead of looking for demons around you, be careful of the ones attacking from within.

Sagamanus

TL; DR. W-I-N-D-B-A-G!

Objectivity

It’s not hard, the words are fairly well known to most. If there is anything you don’t understand, just ask. I am more than happy to use different ones you can read/understand.

Sagamanus

Try a Polish dictionary then. And write out every word three times.

Objectivity

Do you understand Polish?

Sagamanus

No. But it will make as much sense as you do.

Objectivity

Hopefully, some day, in whatever language you understand, you will see more than the black cloak of hate you cover yourself with. The Crow understood hate was not something you bestow on all for the actions of some. We dont hate all women because one killed their child. We don’t hate all African Americans because one killed another, we don’t hate all Muslims because a fringe group carries out terrorist acts. The symbol of the “Crow” is more than suface hate and zombified response.

Lying? The only disingenous POS here is you. A little brat who thinks he’s stumbled upon a fountain of knowledge that no one else has, if only the world would listen to him then they’d be converted too. For all you say about others you call feminists the same thing and don’t even see it. You are full of crap.

Paul Johnson

RODGER, you dipshit. And he killed 5 men and 2 women. He hated everyone.

Sagamanus

Of course you would know how to spell it properly. He’s your hero. And his objective was to kill WOMEN – ALL OF THEM! Moron. So what if he couldn’t get to them, in fact was unable to open a door and then took out men that were getting in his way by default. Only your stupid logic and despicable math could turn that into a propaganda vehicle for the pedophiles on your side.

NotPhilMcFraken

Objectivity
Sagamanus appears to be an insane angry hateful troll – attempting to show their logical fallacies is more likely to backfire and reinforce their deluded beliefs

I really can’t take you seriously. You think men don’t get away with rape and domestic abuse? Only a mutant say that.

Objectivity

Men and women get away with crimes every day. It is how our justice system works. We accept that some will not be held accountable in order to make sure no innocent person is convicted. So you are the onlyone to have made the claim. And then you argued with it calling the person who wrote it a mutant. You are entertaining.

Sagamanus

Innocent people are prosecuted everyday. Do you know how many crimes white men got away against blacks for centuries? Hell it hasn’t ended.

Objectivity

Prosecuted yes… but that is why the system is set up as it is. So we rarely convict an innocent person. That does mean a lot of guilty go free, but our system values an innocent person going free more than a guilty person going to jail.

Do you know how many crimes humans of every race and both genders have gotten away with? This is not about gender or race… it’s the justice system that protects the rights of the defendant.

Sagamanus

Again with the parity nonsense. It’s like saying slaves were not blameless and in fact killed and abused more whites. Try passing that off.

Objectivity

I really believed your logical fallacies were planned and used in context, but this one? It doesnt follow any logical connection. You cant call other people idiots and then post that…

Sagamanus

What of it? It’s the same moron. Guys like you defend everything white men do. Hell I bet you’ve found yourself defending slavery at some point. I wouldn’t doubt it.

Objectivity

No, but you bring slavery into a domestic violence post and pretend I defend it so you have something to argue with. So keep bringing up ridiculous statements and argue with them. Let me know when you’re done.

Sagamanus

You do know what an analogy means right? No I don’t suppose a machine code MRA like you would.

objectivity

No… it is a fight or flight mechanism in an argument where you feel compelled to bring in something that has nothing to do with the article at hand, make it egregious, pretend the other one supports it and then argue with yourself, pretending it is the other. That is not an analogy… it is logical fallacy. You consistently use it and constantly back-peddle trying to figure out how to stay away from the topic. Domestic Violence, woman as the aggressor, the unspoken truth. No matter how angry you get, it will not change fact. You can scream, call names, point to mass shootings, Mickey Mouse and any other deflection you have, but it doesn’t change the fact women are just as violent as men in the home… if not more-so based on the research that is currently out there (read the article…albeit you will not be able to accept it). Now they didn’t take into account your hate when they published the research, so maybe you can call in a favor and get all facts that say women are just as violent as men wiped from the world… but you know what? Even if you could push all research under the rug, the reality does not change. You can argue the sky is green until you believe it, but it doesn’t make it any more green. Even if you call me names.

Sagamanus

Not reading that machine code. Quit with the bloody dissertation.

Michael

I don’t think anyone here is taking you seriously.

Sagamanus

Oh another MRA come to chime in on the matriarchal tyranny of this world.

30-40% of emergency room visits for domestic violence are men. It is not a small number. Rather than pretend they don’t exist and have to justify your way out of facts, embrace the truth and become part of the solution instead ofvcintinuing the problem. If you ignore the facts you cannot find a solution. What you can find is hate and reasons to hate and in the end support hurting men solely based on their gender. I am sincerely happy we have made speaking that way about women intolerable. Society needs people like you to see the absurdity in ignoring the facts.

Bewildered

Men who commit domestic violence overwhelmingly get away with it.
Where’s your evidence ? My dad did not go to jail for it,
This doesn’t qualify as evidence just because you believe the personal is political.
Moreover its a travesty of logic to say that ” yet here you are talking about a problem that rarely ever sees men punished” can be inferred from what you have stated unless ALL the men on this planet are clones of your Dad !
Good laws should take into account all lived experiences, it’s ideologues who deem certain “lived experiences” as more valid than the others and create big gaping loopholes in them for evil,cunning people to exploit.

Sagamanus

Get lost MRA trash. I was indicating my situation in counter to his situation. Where is the evidence? Lol. Oh god I can’t take you seriously.

Bewildered

Many people have lost their legs jumping to conclusions.Grandiose general assertions are not valid without solid evidence.
Adhoms are both puerile and futile.Get rid of your MRA phobia ASAP for your own sake.
Love heals ,hate is self destructive.

Sagamanus

My own sake? Is that a threat? Spare me your nonsensical pretend rationality. You are a crackpot. You’re a league of bloody pedophiles as far as I’m concerned. Machines not worthy of respect, or existence.

Harmon Jenkins

I think a pedophile is a much better human being than a white knight douchebag like you

Sagamanus

I’m sure you would think that. Because all of you morons are pedo’s. I don’t give a shit if you think siding with women instead of being a beanbag full of nutjob beliefs that women are the problem that’s worse. I’d rather be a white knight than an uncle tom like you anyway. Although pretty sure someone like you on the net is probably a white supremecist. Someone should also tell you SJW has been widely embraced by your enemies as a good thing. Go back to eating too much, it’s your only issue. Not women of which you’ve never seen.

Harmon Jenkins

I’m an African-American white supremacist? lol wtf?!

Sagamanus

You don’t read very well do you?

Harmon Jenkins

Actually yes, I read very well. I’m African American and you called me a white supremacist.

Objectivity

Unfortunately, the joke here (in abuse, arrogance, and opinion presented as fact) would be you. Name calling is the last resort of one that has no proof to back up their opinion, no matter how racist or sexist it is. You have a right to your own opinion, but if you want others to agree, just telling them they are stupid if they don’t is not proof. In fact, in this case one would be wiser and less sexist to disagree based on facts.

Sagamanus

But my dear idiot. I have no wish for you to agree with me. MRA’s disavowing anti-male sexism. Lol. Nice reverse nonsense. No one believes any of that crack pot garbage.

Objectivity

Your narcissistic response only proves that gender does not play a role when it comes to those who want control of others. Again, ironically, each time you post, you prove yourself wrong. It is interesting to see it done by the textbook.

Objectivity

I’m not sure why you have such a fear of MRAs, or why you seem to have the need to point and screech, but being contrary to facts will place your no one reference only in your mind.

Sagamanus

Narcissistic response? Oh we have a brilliant scholar here who pretends he’s intelligent instead of part of the most maligned group in history. White men of course. Poor men how have they ever managed to survive so mindlessly handing over all their faculties to the great machine of state. When it benefits them they are for it. When it benefits others, women, blacks, etc suddenly they recognized that they are being controlled and want its destruction. Please tell me about the infection of cultural Marxism which you haven’t brought up yet. Or tell me about the great sacrifice men have made on behalf of women in wars. I really want to hear your story. Don’t forget to attack the theory of patriarchy while stating the real overlords are women. How are women controlling you exactly?

Objectivity

Oh sorry, hit it right on did I? Not a member of any MRA, but if it gives you wings to think you’re fighting the White Devil, then let me know which one I should be to complete your circuit.

You bring up some odd theories and the question them. Since you made the claim, how exactly are women controlling all men? Please remember we are pretending in absolutes… that all women act the same and are controlling and all men act the same and are being controlled. We both know that assumption is absurd but it is the basis for your arguments, your anger and your ignorance. It is evident in almost every post.

Hmmmm… Marxism… really?? What about the aliens in ancient Egypt? Im sure they supported hate groups.

Sagamanus

Your side always brings it up what are you talking about? Marxism now = talking about aliens apparently. Wow do you have an exalted view of yourself. How did you hit anything right on except your own face. You’re the one talking about control in your previous statement. And don’t tell me how I came to the conclusions that you were talking about women. You think a matriarchy really controls everything and it contrary to popular opinion is not known? Please elucidate how women control you?

Objectivity

Seriously? My side? We should be on the same side against domestic violence. I’m against all of it. What the heck side are you on?

Sagamanus

How the hell are you and I on the same side when you would have a sympathetic ear to MRA’s? Have you ever read the comment sections on those so-called ‘Egalatarian’ sites? A word you have embraced with your defence of another poster – implied of course.

Objectivity

I do not have an ear for MRA nor feminism. I dont know much about the former, but i cant imagine a world where groups advocate only for their gender. How pathetically stupid. I dont go to those sites because nothing can be gained by jumping into the lap of sexism either in the MRA or feminism. They are both deserving of each other.

NotPhilMcFraken

Sagamanus is on Sagamanus’s side and everyone else is the enemy as far as they are concerned

NotPhilMcFraken

no one can take you seriously given the hostility you spit out

Sagamanus

Plenty do. I wouldn’t expect it from MRA garbage like you though. Oh and I have no time for reasoned debate with a machine like you. Misandry doesn’t exist. Mens rights are like asking for heterosexual rights or white rights. And you’re an idiot. End of story pedo.

Paul Johnson

And a charge of pedophilia? Are you David Futrelle?

Objectivity

Are you advocating that if a man gets away with it (some do some dont, some falsely accused some not), then all women should? Men and women should both be held to the same expectation of responsibility for their actions, regardless of who proves it and who doesn’t. You write as if you believe it is men vs. women which puts you at an immediate disadvantage in being able to understand the issue, let alone the solution. Men and women need to work together to hold others and themselves equally accountable for their actions without the kindergarten response of “they did it, so I can.” When the reality is that we need to stop those that do, not give a free ride for one to abuse because someone who looked like them in another city was abused. It seems logical to justify it until you break it down into the flawed logic that allows (actually invites) the abuse to continue.

Paul Johnson

Again, here’s where you confuse your experience with world-wide averages.

Sagamanus

Get lost idiot. For you men aren’t to blame for anything.

Max Gold

To think that countless men sacrifice their lives in wars protecting others, work dangerous jobs, cure disease, laboring tirelessly constructing bridges and cities and yet they still have to tolerate ingrates and degenerates such as yourself. The unending progress made by men is wasted on oxygen thieves such as yourself.

Sagamanus

They do nothing of the sort and not for anyone’s benefit but their own. Most of the world’s problems are easily solvable and they aren’t being dealt with, because of a system laid down by men. It’s you who is a waste of oxygen not me. Not to mention a waste of skin. But then again a garbage can is your home so it’s quite convenient I’d say.

Nathan

I’m sorry you had an abusive father, but surely you can hear what a crackpot you sound like arguing that men deserve to be the victims of violence just because you have had a bad experience in your own life. The moral of this article is that both men and women commit violence against each other, and to deal with it effectively we have to acknowledge that instead of marginalizing one gender. The thing that makes me sad is the way you say things like “your side”… you obviously live in a world of us vs them, and you can’t let go of that anger. Not all men are out to hurt you, and your anger against an entire gender is misplaced.

Sagamanus

I have an us vs them attitude? lol. My father was abusive toward my mother not me. And spare me the attitude of men being the victims. Almost all the men I’ve ever known enjoy violence in all facets of their life then find it bizarre when it comes their way. Men are man’s problem. I should know I am one.

Objectivity

Actually, you write with a very abusive personality. If you are ffemale, even you have to see the irony of your argument…

Sagamanus

I am a white man. I write with an abusive personality? Really? Alright. You then write with a scorned male outlook who wants revenge against women. Fair enough right? Don’t bother convincing me otherwise.

Objectivity

Ha! I can’t convince you with facts. White man eh? Yeah, ok.

I dont blame women for the stupidity of society. Hell, they have to live with the result as well. I want to work with men and women alike so that my children and grandchildren dont have to deal with MRAs and feminists in order to end an issue like DV. It’s an extremely distorted view of reality and is the remnants of oppression that wont release their grip. Eventually, all the anger and hatred will move from civilized society.

Sagamanus

What facts have you ever offered? You said you see shit all day and everyday of violent women attempting to rule over the majesty of men. Surely you are correct when you put it that way?

Objectivity

No ruling over, no majesty… but if you sensationalize it to absurdity you can pretend the facts arent true and you can continue to live in your world. So live there. The rest of us in reality have a real issue to deal with.

Paul Johnson

The facts have already been presented in the article.

Sagamanus

There are none.

NotPhilMcFraken

sounds more like a hateful troll

Sagamanus

Drop dead moron. I do hate you. What of it?

nordmann

OK, so my guess above was correct, at least as concerning gender. Did I get the right-wing fifteen year old part correct, too?

Sagamanus

How in the hell do you infer I’m a right winger you MRA POS?

Objectivity

No, you’re not, but you pretend to be. It’s clear you want to be.. your appaent jealousy is so strong it has reared its head as extreme hatred. Being a female is ok sagamanus, but a real human has compassion for others. Only a monster has contemptable hatred in their soul.

No. The world need less haters and more people to shine a light on those who hate and bring them out of their basement dwellings. Feel free to cancel yours, or to continue your abuse… on an article about abuse. You’re a fine specimen aren’t you?

Sagamanus

CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT NOW!!!

Objectivity

Your control has no power here. Those that scream insults the loudest are the weakest of the weak. My account stays.

Sagamanus

CANCEL IT!!! Haha.

Objectivity

“The time frame remained the same, this time 7 writers contributed to this manifesto of hate!” and you were one of them. Supernaught? Hardly.

Sagamanus

Sorry honk. No such thing as misandry, or reverse racism.

Objectivity

No need to be sorry. You just misunderstand. There is such a thing as hate. And you spew it based on how one is born. That is bigotry and hatred. That is sexism. We agree completely that there is no such thing as reverse racism or reverse sexism. Those phrases were made up by people who think like you. There is only one racism, (hating one because of their race). And there is only one sexism (hating one because of their gender). Which race and which gender does not matter. The term “reverse” was added by ignorant people who think it only goes one direction. Do some reading in your spare time, it will help you write, I promise.

Sagamanus

10 HRS TILL AUTO CANCEL!

Sagamanus

No such thing as misandry. For that to happen, men would have to be universally oppressed by women. And in no time in history has that occurred. Misogyny is however real, especially by whiny pathetic guys like you, who worrY about women raping men and sexism against the male gender.

Objectivity

You misinterpret the definition, misleading you to the wrong conclusion. Something doesnt have to be universal to happen… otherwise misogyny would not be real. It is not universal, but there are some that hate women, and they are misogynist. Those that hate males are misandric. In either case the larger umbrella is sexism and should never be tolerated in any form in our society.

Sagamanus

NO SUCH THING! 9 HRS TILL CANCELLATION!

Objectivity

See? You still believe, no matter all facts to the contrary.

Objectivity

And again, you have no control here. You are impotent. My account will not be canceled and you will continue to be exposed as the bigot you are. Hate has no place in our society… you spin like a taz devil, deflecting facts so they can’t unravel the very basis of your hate. You’ve spun so many times, your dizzy responses are nothing more than comical attempts at control… at abuse. But I don’t give you that power… so you don’t have it in the real world.

Objectivity

Epidemic numbers? False. Not in this country. In this country we are extremely concerned with stopping half of the violence… I guess protecting half is better than none, but shouldn’t we see this as human rights, not just rights for one gender? Should all not expect the same respect regardless of gender? How hard is it to expect everyone to keep their hands to themselves? How hard is it to have equal accountability and responsibility with no justification because of gender? Seriously?

NotPhilMcFraken

you are full of shit

Sagamanus

No. But every story MRA’s put out there is made up fantasy garbage. Go back under your bridge.

Harmon Jenkins

Have you seen every last domestic violence case? No? Then how in the world can you be spewing this BS that no women are aggressors? Are you fucking kidding me?! https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=305948309599067 Look at those disgusting comments on this and tell me we don’t have a problem.

Sagamanus

What of it? Most of them are looking at it knowing he’s been bringing bullshit to the table for their relationship and she reacted. You know like when MRA idiots say the man finally had enough of the woman and just snapped and they justify his behaviour. Apparantly women are never allowed to be angry. God knows how many times you’ve seen the reverse and found yourself justifying it as well. Have you? And plus we don’t know anything about that. Not to mention there are a lot of men in the comments laughing. Where is your condemnation of them?

Also nowhere near what women have had to go through. Don’t even put it on the same level.

Harmon Jenkins

So if a woman decides that a man is ” bringing bullshit to the table for their relationship” she should be allowed to body slam him? And plus how are you going to say we don’t know anything about that but make that assumption? The men laughing at this are just as disgusting as the women doing it, much like yourself. The only time I have ever defended an alleged abuser is when he was attacked first and defending himself, which wasn’t the case there. But clearly you think defending abuse is good since you just did it. I am not convinced that women have it worse either, especially with this new study on abuse. Women are believed when they say they’re abused, while men are always treated like the villain. And you can’t possibly think that men actually are ALWAYS villains, can you?

Sagamanus

Who was laughing? MRA’s always try for nuanced arguments when men are the abuser and try to justify their actions. Yet here I’m asking you for nuance and you say no there isn’t any, and that it’s clear cut. And it’s one damn video what the hell does this even mean. Ray Rice is another and I don’t see you presenting that as a balanced argument against male abuse.

And why in the hell would you ever side with men on anything? I’m a man and I don’t. You expect me to take domestic abuse against men seriously when men are the ones demeaning other men, when they are the total of mass shooters. When they are the people who incite war and vote accordingly. When the security apparatus is installed by men. When they are the serial killers and pedophiles. When they commit massacres worldwide. When they worship violence in every facet of their existence? Men are your problem. Why is it if you want balance you aren’t siding with feminists then instead. If a man punched me in the face and then another, followed by yet another I wouldn’t start screaming at women that they are to blame. Statistically you have more to worry about from another man than anything not women. Hell you don’t even have to get into a relationship and can stay home.

Harmon Jenkins

Well, I’d have to be insane to side with anyone who condemns the entire male gender that I’m part of, and I think it’s kind of a tragedy that you are. It probably has something to do with either your extreme desire to please women and score points with them, or this over exaggerated view that they are victims in ALL situations. If a man punched me in the face I wouldn’t automatically assume a woman was to blame, but a woman body slamming me like in that video? Call me crazy, but that woman is definitely to blame for that one. Men commit crimes too, but your entirely one sided position doesn’t help anything. If anything, it makes more people wonder when they hear about a woman being abused, if she was truly abused by her husband or if she attacked first and cried abuse when he defended himself. You think you’re helping women out by running this crusade against all other males but what you don’t realize is that, when you do something really messed up to people and shaft groups of people wrongfully, you have to be prepared for the backlash that it brings. Some men also face circumstances that women don’t. I’m not saying it justifies their actions, but I tend to be able to relate to males a lot more.

Also, the women who I see condoning other women’s abuse of males are not who I think of as feminists. Feminism means belief in equal rights. If you think a woman should be able to beat the shit out of a man whenever she feels like it, you’re not for equal rights. Those people are misandrists. Big difference. You also don’t seem to want equal rights, you’re advocating for female supremacy.

Sagamanus

No such thing as misandry. I can tell you one thing, as opposed to you. I don’t go to bed at night worrying that a woman is going to kill me by popping out of the closet as you seem to. I don’t worry about being abused by women and never have…IN MY ENTIRE LIFE! You apparently walk with caution expecting to be murdered at every turn by the matriarchy as the real rulers of the earth somewhere conducting their connivances on a mountain in secret.

Harmon Jenkins

So is it that you hate all other males and don’t think male victims deserve justice, or simply can’t quite wrap your mind around the idea of a woman being a badass abuser in a relationship?

Sagamanus

Is that all you can say to anyone who dares challenge the male status quo, is that they hate all males? How is it then you don’t accept you hate all women and wish them to be exterminated if I were to accuse you of it? Which I am. But you should feel combfortable with that. I frankly do not care about such things as the rare to non-existent female abuser. It’s not even on my radar. Just like male abusers are not on yours.

Concerning myself with male rights are like an argument about civil rights and police thuggery toward blacks. What if some idiot white guy started screaming “What about us? What about white rights?”. Who the hell wouldn’t laugh at him as if there was any danger to white men at all…EVER! The same can be said of female abusers.

Harmon Jenkins

I asked you a simple question, all you needed to do was answer. Now I’m guessing the answer is the latter, you don’t think any abusers are female. But why are you not concerned with helping all victims of domestic abuse? Why is there discrimination based on gender?

Sagamanus

Like I said about as interested as you are in helping women of domestic abuse. The fact is if you’re dealing with men who have supposedly been abused and one already harbors negative feeling toward women. That man is always going to think that any woman out there got what she deserved in any case. It’s all about math and numbers. There is no way in hell a men’s rights activist could give a shit about a woman. He is fighting against what he sees as a beast that gets away with everything, when its men who get away with everything. Theses are his relishing small victories. Men always think they’re the victims of everything and women are the traditional and convenient target to blame. I hear surprising things come out of men all the time. Guys who I believed weren’t like that and then one day their misogyny thinks it’s found a receptive ear.

Harmon Jenkins

The best thing for society would be an uprising of, not MRA or feminists (or white knights), but HUMAN rights people. I consider myself closer to one of those. MRA’s and feminists are essentially both on the same mission: to make the world a fair and equal place for both genders (or as close as possible), just working different parts of the job. But too often these two sides clash with each other and it becomes a battle of the sexes where it should be good vs. evil. Each of these groups has extremists that prefer supremacy over equality, and really those people are the ones that should be opposed. But there are a LOT more feminists- and radical feminists- than there are MRAs. This is kind of a travesty because problems that males are more prone to facing can be just as serious as those of women if not more so. Just because they typically don’t involve a ‘villain’ doesn’t mean it hurts any less, or that it’s any easier to deal with. The reason I’m focusing more on men’s help is because men are the ones whose support seems to be disproportionately low compared to how many of them need it, especially in domestic violence cases where there’s double standards working against them.

Objectivity

Yes, right, because if hatred for males had a name, you’d be required to take it. So you don’t want it to have a name. You want your hatred to be clandestine, because you know it would be wrong… yet, you cant let it go, so you pretend things dont exist. It’s the ugliest form of sexism, but continue to spew hatred about what you do yourself. If you hate yourself that much, maybe you are the ultimate wonan-hater…you are so reviled by it you strike out at others, at reality itself. You have a right to do so, but you are the blackest of knights.

Sagamanus

Yeah that must be it. I do this to please women. Just like you hate women to please men because you’re latently homosexual and denying it to yourself. You like that logic?

Harmon Jenkins

It may surprise you to know, but the things I’m arguing against create gender wars and drive a wedge between the sexes, rather than making them more able to get along. I do’t like having to argue that people are sexist against men, but sometimes it’s necessary.

Sagamanus

Running a crusade? What? I don’t side with you and get attacked. Lol. You really don’t listen to yourself. I can tell you from reading these MRA tracts. No man has ever done anything wrong. Literally you will not find any man on those sites who ever did anything bad, it was always the woman. Who can take a guy then claiming it was the woman’s fault?

Sagamanus

You tend to be able to relate to males more? Well that says it all. I’m a white guy who can step out of his shoes and see it from her perspective. I don’t auto side with men or my own race. The latter which is guilty of things beyond belief and it continues.

Harmon Jenkins

Well when I said I can relate to men more I didn’t just mean abuse I meant everything. And yea, a lot of men have trouble with things such as unrequited love, being confident, being embarrassed about their emotions, being uncomfortable with being automatically profiled as a predator or “creepy”, etc. and I have too. (No it doesn’t make me a loser, I’m a fairly confident guy now) Women’s issues often revolve around being constantly wanted and chased by men. I honestly feel like that would be great, and I can’t understand the responses to that by women, but it could be because unfortunately I haven’t had an excessive amount of females chasing me. Again, I’m not saying no women seem to like me, as I’ve had my share of (sort of) harassment, just that I don’t get approached by 10,000 a day. If I did I might get just as upset as they do, but I feel like I wouldn’t. It doesn’t seem like an issue most males face. That’s what I mean when I say I can relate to guys more.

Now another thing I can relate to some males with is the frustration of always being stigmatized as the perpetrator of domestic violence, regardless of who started it. Being villainized for being a male. Well, it’s more frustration at the idea of it, as I haven’t literally had a domestic violence encounter, it just seems inexplicably wrong to me for a male to always have to be the bad guy in all cases.

Sagamanus

Well if you can use your domestic violence incident as a measuring stick. I should be able to use mine. My dad was a perpetual drunk and a wife beater. No he didn’t beat me or my brother, but big deal that isn’t a saving grace when he beats the mother.

And I know what men are like and what they think of women. I’ve been around them all my life. And condemnation of men is tepid and innocuous from women compared to what men really deserve. There has never been a point in my existence where they aren’t referred to as Bit@#%! or whores or as some kind of attachment to his dick. I hear of men who get away with rape all the time especially when its related to a popular athlete. Where anyone invested in that sickening nationalism that expresses itself in sports will defend their bastard rapist no matter what.

I would never embrace a men’s movement that is alongside conservative lines. Which it is, and sees women as the problem when it’s other men that are the biggest problem for men. But he can’t very well look in the mirror in the morning and blame himself can he?

Harmon Jenkins

I never said women cause ALL the problems, but I believe some cause a few more than they get blamed for, due to views similar to the ones you’re expressing. As I said, I’ve never been involved personally in a domestic violence case. Being called whores or other demeaning names honestly sounds like heaven compared to some of the things I’ve experienced and the challenges some young men are forced to go through, and most involve the dating system, which is pretty much controlled by women. Who the blame lies with for that is a matter of perspective. Just because some men get away with rape doesn’t mean all female criminals should get away with their crimes too. Two wrongs don’t make a right, or in this case, countless wrongs. Also, feeling broken because of being raped by a famous athlete is unfortunately something else I cannot identify with.

I understand that SOME men hurt women and SOME women are victims, but why do you insist that ALL women are victims and ALL males are predators? And also, for that matter, assume that if someone disagrees with that first one that they are blaming ALL women. SOME women are manipulative, evil, and yes, abusers. Rapists even! Some are not. SOME men are some of those same things. Some are not. The reason why these results are so shocking is that often times what would by law be defined as abuse perpetrated by women isn’t seen as such by society at large.

Objectivity

Who was laughing? Most of society at you. Ever feel like you’re a lone warrior in your cause? It’s because the rest of society has grown up and realized equality is about learning to accept all, regardless of how they are born. You sound like an angry old person who can’t find a place in the present.

Sagamanus

Haha. Yeah I’m the angry one. Not you pillow humpers.

Objectivity

Finally, it’s getting through.

Paul Johnson

What part of “every 37.8 seconds” do you not understand?

Sagamanus

Throwing a purse at a man is not violence. He probably deserves it.

Objectivity

And this written on an article about female violence with which you vehemently disagree. Classic. Saving this one for my book.

Sagamanus

They do deserve it. Women who kill their spouses are overwhelmingly in response to his abuse. He deserves it.

Objectivity

I could not disagree more. You are generalizing every case as the same facts. No one kills their spouse for no reason, regardless of gender. Each believes they have a right to do it.

A victim never deserves to be abused. You are not justified in killing you significant other unless you are in immediate threat of life. You have a right to defend yourself with deadly force when you are attacked with deadly force regardless of gender. I do not support a man killing his spouse in any other circumstance, I dont support a woman killing her spouse in any other circumstance.

A victim of domestic violence NEVER deserves the violence regardless of gender.

NotPhilMcFraken

going from Sagamanus’s logic … if ANY women kills Sagamanus, then Sagamanus deserves it

Ravi Subba

Well said. You nailed it !

Paul Johnson

The occasional appearance of people like you serve as a reminder to the rest of us just how few and far between you and those like you are becoming. The truth is getting out there. 2014 was absolutely stellar, and 2015 is going to be even better.

Sagamanus

Lol. Sure it was. No such thing as misandry idiot.

Sagamanus

The appearance of people like you proves women need more protection from rapists.

Objectivity

Studies have overwhelming shown that men are the cause for their own abuse? Are you insane? I think you spoke these words with a different gender and then turn around and state the same insanity. “Shut up about the facts, I’m trying to hide the truth to make sure my venom is clear. It is a natural reaction to one who has been indoctrinated. No amount of fact will never be enough to dissuade the belief. And when the fact can’t be hidden, it is run from and the subject changes… It is how the KKK was able to do what they did… for a time… The same is apparently true now.” Live in your world of your own hypocrisy. The rest of us who have moved out of the past will continue to help you grow up. But you don’t want to do you? The hate is what keeps you warm.

Sagamanus

You are barely literate, even with this fake account.

Objectivity

Continued name calling only shows lack of ability. Your hatred doesn’t allow you cognitive thought. You only react with anger out of fear of exposure. Rest assured, that reaction exposes you more than anything, or anyone else ever could.

Sagamanus

Yes and I hope you cite it properly too, with ‘John T. Some guy on the Internet’ when you quote me.

Objectivity

We’ll see. Stay interesting.

Paul Johnson

Hey, I’m an MRA and I don’t call myself an egalitarian. I’m for the equal protection and treatment of men and women, but I don’t call myself an egalitarian because it’s a meaningless term.

Fence-sitters who think that MRAs are the same but opposite of feminists call themselves egalitarians because assuming a false middle ground is easier than fact-checking.

When I talk about equality, I’m specific about which ways we need to be “equal.”

Paul Johnson

DING DING DING DING
Another gender ideologue bites the dust (reverts to ad-homs when the facts don’t confirm their prejudice, blames any non-gender ideologue of being an MRA) 😀

Sagamanus

AD HOMONYM, AD HOMONYM, AD HOMONYM! Repeat that a few more times will you, just like the robots you are. GOEBBELS!

Angster

The “truth” according to a man who has read all those studies he CLAIMS warrants women “getting the violence they deserve.” Sure!
Wow! Where do you people come from?
Let me spell it our for the idiot: Just because a percentage of women you know (I’m guessing these are sleazy bar fights because none of the women I know use violence against the innocent of any gender), does NOT mean that all women start the violence that occurs against them.
Your intellectual “reasoning” leaves much to be desired.

cross

how about this… why don’t we teach people to keep their hands to themselves! that way women will not be struck back when a man decides to defend himself!

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Bewildered

But you think your reasoning is ‘intellectual’ ?

Does this” because none of the women I know use violence against the innocent of any gender” necessarily preclude the existence of women who are indiscriminately violent ?

does NOT mean that all women start the violence that occurs against them.
What a convenient strawman ! No one has claimed that.
The reason why people are harping on the evil things SOME women do is because people like you pretend or like to pretend with the culture’s blessings that these things never happen or rarely happen without bothering to know the truth.
So I suppose it won’t be too hard for you to convince a rape victim,after duly empathizing and sympathizing with her, that NOT ALL MEN ARE rapists,potential or otherwise, and tell a girl who was unfortunate to have a shitty dad that NOT ALL DADS are shitty ?

Angster

He may be insane, but is definitely the epitome of unadulterated ignorance.

Bee Dubya

I was a bouncer – women hit much more than men – because they know they can get away with it – we wouldnt hit back. Happens all the time.

Sagamanus

Yeah and I’m sure it’s happening every second of every minute of everyday. Instead being a rarity. And even if you seen it in a shitty bar, who cares. I mean I’ve seen KKK rallies, therefore all men are in the KKK. Like that analogy?

Bee Dubya

Perhaps one of the stupidest analogy ive ever read – but I get it. You are one of those “all women are perfect angels types”. Not buying it – lived too long – women can be dirtbags, like men, but they go through life with using casual victimhood along the way – to get rid of their dirt. Seen too many women freely hook up then claim other bs later – seen too many show up on “girls night out” only to pick up the younger guys. Been around clubs since the 1980’s and the current crop is very forward. The female victim card is dying a tragic death. LOL im happy to see it get flushed. Now maybe everyone can be a bit more responsible.

Sagamanus

You proceed to work from a platform that I think that all women are angels, not me. In any case it would be irrelevant since you’re picking from a crop that frequents those places and applying it to the whole gender. And that bullshit that you encounter that so-called type of woman non-stop still stands. It’s an exaggeration. The fact you are on an article that targets a traditionally maligned group and most likely never other kind says a lot. Again I don’t know you but I can guess. If you can apply your experience to someone, I can too in stereotyping you as probably an MRA or at least sympathetic to them. I mean if you witnessed white guys doing bad stuff, and being a white guy yourself. I very much doubt you would say ‘F all white guys’ and that you know what white men are like. I’m white and male and have seen what white guys act like. Would you accept my thesis that they are mostly bad then if that’s what I was putting forward? Highly unlikely.

Bee Dubya

You have written more than 21,000 comments, so other than our skin color (maybe) we have absolutely nothing in common. Get a life internet person. Unless you are disabled in some way and this is your life, then ok, i totally get it.

I stand by what i said as it is my perception of reality and im not alone. As for why i even read this article, its because i know a man very well who was in an abusive relationship that almost ended in his death. We had no clue what was going on, so i wanted to read. Oh, she only got 4 years and may be getting out soon, but that will be a separate issue. As for mens rights – I have only known about them for 2 months, but they have some good points, maybe a bit of complaining, but still some basic legal points. I figure that like non academic feminists, they have probably been traumatized at some point. Academic feminists i have absolutely no tolerance for. I have heard feminist lies and bullshit for my entire 48 years going back to the daycare scares of the 1980’s. I think its hilarious that a Canadian waitress takes those pathetic PhD’s down!!

As for you, i dont care, my only suggestions is ask yourself – what has the 21000 comments got you? What would you trade them for?

Sagamanus

What the hell are you even talking about again? Huh? 21 000 comments over a long time. Years in fact. It’s no skin off my teeth.I interact with a lot of people here and off of here. What of them? You just exposed yourself as another MRA, what a big surprise. Suddenly we go from your astonshing expertise of women who frequent bars to now your intolerance for Feminism, for your entire 48 years of existence. Lol. Wow of course anti-feminism is what brought you here and the wacko’s of men’s rights. If not what is someone like you even doing on the net? You know, a guy who is living it up in the real world while us losers languish in the fictional one. You’re just so much better. For however many men get abused in relationships there are probably 5000 times more women and even more that don’t get reported. It always amazes me that so many men hate women, think that they are all cheating liars, demons out to get them. And yet these morons still get involved. Why is that?

Bee Dubya

Rage much? I think you should maybe take it down a notch! Not sure what you are upset about, but whatever bro. If you need to say I am a MRA to make yourself feel better, use the cushion then and feel good. Im not, i simply watch from the stands – ive probably typed and/or said the word feminist maybe a dozen times in the last 30 years. Its funny though that the old guard of feminism is challenged – but will it affect my life? Nope. Will is affect yours? Nope.. I think your ratio of 1 to 5000 is pretty nuts but people believe in things they want to.. I told you why this article interested me because it was close to home.. Keep posting internet oddity- maybe tweet too – i hear it can be sooo effective in changing things LOL..

Sagamanus

Rage? I appended some comments with laughter, while you were going full crackpot. You responded to me in the first place even though I never heard of you. You keep thinking that feminism is done and it’s just around the corner. You are going to win tomorrow, that’s for sure. Just keep on trucking and don’t get killed riding that bike

Bee Dubya

Win tomorrow? I have no idea what you are talking about. Nobody here can really believe that you have like 21000 comments. Our receptionist thinks that the godzilla fanboy is you thumb upping your own comment since this thread is like 3 weeks old. Pretty pathetic dude. Our receptionist figured you have spent maybe 1750 hours working on comments – woah seek help or write articles – to get the word out.

The bike is pretty nice – its a Harley Fatboy 2003 Anniversary Edition. About 900lbs and 8.5 feet long – great aftermarket add ons and im real happy with the price i paid for it. Its a sweet ride. You can comment back if you like, but im done. At 40 something comments in 3 years, its a waste of too much time already.

Sagamanus

21 000 comments over a multitude of years yes, what of it? Godzilla Fanboy is a guy I’ve known for quite a while and he just cancelled his old account. On most of the sites I frequent 21 000 comments is quite small as well. You’ve put up 40 comments in 3 years? Lol. Why are you on the net anyway fossil? Pathetic is an impotent moron who needs a bike and probably a leather jacket to compensate for lost youth, and the aspirations of poser masculinity. Nothing wrong with liking bikes. Liking them because you feel they’re an extension of your penis is though.

Oh btw tell your receptionist to keep taking those calls, typing away and jotting away numbers like a good little machine because they have the real job, and I supposedly don’t.

Godzilla Fanboy

Just to clarify, I’m not Sagamanus, and no he is not pathetic. I upvote because his feed shows up when I log onto my account and because I upvote friends when they are in the right.

Angster

And I am not Sagamanus either. I also upvoted for him. He makes sense.

Angster

You’re done? Really? So after your pokey snarky juvenile comments, (and then you’re surprised when people are like wtf?…and then you pull in others …um, no, that would be you who cares about his 21, 000 comments. Your character has revealed itself and you have even said your reference is based on bar brawls.
Some empty life ya have there!
You could not stick with the topic. No, you had to go and personally attack someone in a way you know nothing about.
As a matter of fact, it relates perfectly with you and the other idiot; you cannot prove the majority of women (of the ENTIRE GLOBAL population) hits first any more than you can accurately prove (beyond assumption) that a stranger on the internet who chooses to speak up and speak out has no life.
Wow, you’re actually a joke!
What more proof do we need that you are agenda filled and irrational?

Terrie Sanders

The only reason he got so many replies is because his ideas are so far out of the ballpark that he is pissing people off, including me.

Terrie Sanders

Yes it seems to be a total waste of time to get this guy to look at real life for what it is. When you piss people off of course you will get comments. That doesn’t mean you or your post are correct about anything. I have both lived through domestic violence and I am in school for Psychology, so I do know a little about research. You can find a quote to say anything.

Angster

I did not hear rage in his comment. I heard shock. That some dumbass would make a stupid fucking comment about numbers of comments. 19 are we?

Angster

You don’t shit about this person presumably. So your 21,000 comment is pathetic. Passion…Standing up for what is right can be time consuming, but you know what, we need more people like that who care THAT MUCH.
You think you have a life? Mr bar dude? Go have another few drinks and sleep it off…but nah, we won’t concur, that it’s a “life” you’re living. LOL

NotPhilMcFraken

no we don’t – passion without understanding is NEVER going to help

Max Gold

I was shocked to learn you are a man. It does explain a lot though and why you have so many issues with men. Not many men would tolerate your bleating, man bashing and constant insistence you are a victim. It isn’t surprising then that you became a mangina.

Sagamanus

I’m not shocked you’re a man though. I mean perpetually acting tough in the face of actually being weak. Impotent for everything he’s ever gone through. And a life long hatred of women when it’s men who have wronged him. In any case its not like you can do anything about it. Guys like you get knocked out on the street almost daily and still blame women for their problems. Dude my advice to you is just because your father beat you doesn’t mean you should go full pedo on your kids.

Caring Person

Your participation in this discussion provides many classic examples of verbal and emotional abuse. I’m amazed that you think you are defending anyone. You should get help, because I suspect you are going to be one of the statistics above of those who eventually do wind up going to jail for not understanding the difference between assertiveness and abuse.

Sagamanus

Caring person? Lol. Get lost phony. It’s you who needs help. Maybe if you weren’t a woman beater yourself it wouldn’t be a problem.

Sagamanus

Lol. A Voice for Men and MRA. Good mix. I mean War Machine is probably your hero if you aren’t already him.

Angster

Just like the other lame ass, you present info as if it’s across the board; all women. You are the one who is doing what you accuse. “All men are angels.”
No-one here is disputing that there are female and male dirtbags and asshats of both gender. But to say there are no female victims (aka “the victim card is dying a tragic death” ) is something you cannot possibly understand the inherent audacity of.
The poor teen girls in a village in India raped and left hanging from a Mango tree for their distressed and devastated parents to discover…this is a REAL and prevalent reality world wide in one way or another perpetuating real hate toward women.

You should truly be ashamed of yourself. If it were your own sister hanging in that tree naked and never allowed to enter adulthood with her many dreams, you’d wake up. You’d see differently. It’s a fact. Many people suffer at the hands of haters and it is not equal in ,magnitude not now nor has it ever been. And just because you have had relations with dirtbag drunks, (because you are probably one of them), does not make your opinion truth. See, reality does not work that way, dear one.

Bee Dubya

You are saying the world is dangerous? Shocker…..

Ok another fake account from Sagamanus – 17 comments and you happen to find me – this is more pathetic than i would have, but quite humorous! They will love it at work tomorrow. Tweet, make comments and try your moral intimidation as a Social Justice Panhandler, because that is what you really do – trying to be sanctimonious with the zeal of a religious fundamentalist. But you really come off as both the organ grinder and monkey with a little dancing show on the internet. Tip: when shaming someone – dont say “shame on you” i actually threw my head back laughing at that. It pretty much invalidated everything you said before and after. Im not a mens rights nor a feminist – I couldnt care less about that silliness and frankly, its the same arguments over and over and over and over. I have my family, great friends and hang out.

You attempt to characterize me, which i actually really like since it seems like a dark alter ego but unfortunately its wrong – my life is not that exciting. Im going to turn off my notifications, so if you write back it will be for yourselves. Also, dude whats with the talking about my penis? Thats kinda a strange topic to go into – makes me think you are a woman, you sure think and argue like one.

Best of luck with your Social Justice Panhandling – but I think your time would be better spent doing something physically productive.

Sagamanus

Fake account? Whatever. Apparently everyone agrees with you in the “real world” according to you.

Angster

Exactly and again, the example this time given by B Dubya is based on a very specific percentage of people during drunken encounters…bar fights…drunk people…Sound statistics about a whole gender cannot be based on a a percentage of the population who stays drunk…simply absurd.

Ravi Subba

Same thing and logic applies to MEN !!!

LogicalReminder

Interesting… a need to pretend nothing exists but apparently the world that was built around misinformation. The KKK rallied the general populist sentiment to give justification for abusing people due to the color of their skin and they got away with it for a while. I find the same thing happens as we ignore the truth today, rallying the general populist sentiment to give justification for abusing people due to their gender. Women SHOULD be protected by law, but MEN should be protected by the same law. No one should be allowed to lay a hand on another human being. It’s not a gender thing, it’s a reality that many like you become obtuse about while discussing. Willfully rejecting facts in order to maintain your own “reality.” Well, the thing is, eventually reality wins. Eventually the KKK is seen for what it is… nothing more than a group of hateful people. I’m sure the same will be found of the groups you seem to connect with, as the message is clear. Shut up about the facts, I’m trying to hide the truth to make sure my venom is clear. It is a natural reaction to one who has been indoctrinated. No amount of fact will never be enough to dissuade the belief. And when the fact can’t be hidden, it is run from and the subject changes… It is how the KKK was able to do what they did… for a time… The same is apparently true now. History just keeps repeating itself, only changing the group singled out for the hate.

Max Gold

Maybe you should simply read the article that cites a study declaring A man is the victim of domestic abuse every 37.8 seconds in America. And this is just in America, so yes it is happening every minute of everyday. Hope this helps.

guest

No. Just every 37 seconds, like it says in the article. Or can you read?

Bewildered

Instead being a rarity.
This is a popular trick called minimization. It comes into effect when you realize that the opposite side is making some valid points that go against your position.However what do you make of this ” Even one rape is too many !”, I am all for it, but to be consistent you have to be against it !!!

“I had a shitty father, therefore all fathers are shitty “
Do you prefer this analogy ?

Sagamanus

Sorry doesn’t work pedo. I’m the one who was reversing it on your side. Now you’re doing a double reverse? Really?

Objectivity

You seem to be a mirror image of this group. Hating one for how they are born… taking the minority and extending it to the majority… How ironic is it that your methods are in perfect alignment with other hate groups.

d

The bouncer touches on a good point and this information getting out will help both sexes. I believe that woman allow themselves to lose control or cross lines verbally and physically because typically there is no repercussion. Men on the other hand know that they will be held responsible for their actions and if they cross said lines they will be in a fight, subject to incarceration or both i.e. life ruining repercussions. If the magic force field gets removed from women they will adjust like men and be less likely to cross lines that test the restraint of their male counterparts that often lead to domestic abuse. That is not to say there are not horrible, abusive men that deserve to rot in jail, but I do believe it is the force field that empowers women to do and say what they want in fits of anger and the reason that one sided domestic violence is perpetrated by women 71% of the time.

Donald Bolson

Writers make policies? Also your using feminist wrong. Your shitty writing style makes you sound like an idiot. Do you mean that society has long adopted a gender bias towards men and crafted policies that are unfair and put men at a disadvantage? Then yeah. Also I agree that understanding what both parties did in a given situation is only right and bias towards gender clouds judgement. I also hate that woman feel entitled to hit a man but comments like yours will not change public perception. Grammar is important. Do YOU get it now?

Enharmonics

“your using feminist wrong”

You’re = contraction of “you are”
Your = possessive pronoun

Way to criticize someone on their grammar while simultaneously exhibiting the grammatical skill of a grade schooler. Disgusting hypocrite feminist. Typical.

And did you seriously just say society has adopted a gender bias TOWARDS (in favor of) men and crafted policies that put men at a DISADVANTAGE? Are you autistic?

Terrie Sanders

Do you really have to insult people to get your point across? Use a little intelligence, please. I’d rather see a misspelled word and read a sound, intelligent post than see it all grammatically correct with the words of an uninformed writer. You ought to know that you need to investigate the issue (maybe you should get someone else to help you) before writing about it. You say you have, yet you still defend these foolish ideas. Go look in the mirror and ask yourself why you have to take this stand. Really, look inside yourself.

Oh the irony, have you even read your own posts? You’re projecting and responding with your emotions rather than rational thought!

Angster

Really? You’re talking about grammar? LMAO

Angster

You fucking retard. Learn to speak coherently. “and studies have shows for years that women are the cause for their own violence!” What a ridiculously stupid thing to say. There are times this is true, as there are many different individuals in the world, but you make it sound as if all violence to women is warranted. And for you to say such a blatant lie and misogynist statement makes you part of the PROBLEM.

cross

not ridiculous buddy… it is true! women tend to hit, bite, pinch, slap,etc. more than men! according to the CDC 70% of all domestic violence is started by women! men just hit harder! take off the feminist shades

angster

Yeah maybe according to the drunks you hang out with. That is NOT what statistics and reputable studies indicate domestically nor globally. But hey, it’s the Internet and there will always be people as ignorant as you. (Who make shit up as they go along …and use as references their sleazy experiences as a foundation for what “most studies say “most women do.”

cross

And what is your source? please present it… the CDC? that is the united states government. not made up! you know the same one dealing with the Ebola situation! you must be a troll! and by the way… your feminist shaming tactics don’t work on me… here is just one link to my source… where is yours?http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/2003-06-22-abuse-usat_x.htm
I am willing to bet with all the sh,it you are talking you cannot come up with one good source!

Angster

Case in point. You’ve proven to be your own worst enemy here. The sole reason that the article YOU provided states nowhere that “70% of all domestic violence is started by women!” is that it is fabricated by you.
A troll? You perhaps. I guess it’s simply convenient for you to claim I am. Poor guy. It’s obvious you can’t really read/accurately infer.
Rather, I am a human who knows globally there are so many women who are raped (in India it is every 20 minutes) and killed and this has NOTHING to do with your stupid bar brawls with supposed vicious women. I am sure they are out there (and as another poster said I am sure you infuriate the hell out of many and who knows what has actually happened and let’s be clear, I am done talking with you, so don’t explain it to me);

Clearly, “70% of women”…that is you being a liar with a clear agenda.
And bottom line, the author of this article I doubt ever was trying to support fairytale myths like you are presenting. Rather, he was trying to seemingly balance things a bit. Balance is one thing but what you’ve done, turning studies on their sides (and using your own drunken experiences) is simply hogwash. I have nothing else to say; you presented an article and it says NOTHING that you claim. Period. You should consider ‘outsourcing’ the job of convincing …to someone with a brain and minus that fat agenda/chip on the old shoulder. Your opinion is just that and it is chalk full of baggage; yours.

cross

http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/intimatepartnerviolence/ I hope you can read statistics… 70% of violence against women is perpetrated by the female… in other-words, women statistically start physical violence they cannot finish, then they claim victim-hood! before you call someone a liar please look up your facts! you have been fooled by the feminist agenda so blinded by hate you cannot see past your own Bull, shyte! the feminist agenda is a fary tail myth!

cross

BTW with the link i sent you please download the “fact sheet” and you can see how much of a “liar” I am… this so called “fary tail” myth you say that I present is clearly written in black and white, with the methodology presented and clearly stated! I await your retort!

Objectivity

I believe cross refers to non-reciprocated violence. In this article, “In fact, in the 71 percent of nonreciprocal partner violence instances, the instigator was the woman.”

Quite honestly this scorecard is meaningless other than the fact our society pretends it doesn’t exist. All victims should be protected and all perpetrators held accountable regardless of gender.

Terrie Sanders

Speaking of sources, who are YOU? Obviously not someone who knows anything about being abused. Your facts don’t mesh with the way it really goes down, and you have irritated the *&^% out of me. I have been a victim and yes, I am a woman. I DO know, from LIFE, what is happening. I don’t give a crap who your sources are – get out there and experience it and then rewrite your article. Don’t put crap like that up to disillusion people.

cross

your “life experiences” do not illustrate the whole picture! that is your world view, and not what is happening with boys and men overall! I know about being abused lady, and it is not right whether be a man or woman who is abusing! to blame all men for social ills is not right or fair. when you look into statistics and FACTS you see that women hit, punch, slap, and hurt more than men! when men finally hit back the abusive woman is seen as the victim! I am sorry about your situation but it seems as if you are just bitter about what happened to you and want to blame males for your plight! I wonder what your role was in your so called abuse! many women tend not to look at what they did when they are hurt! and when a person asks, women say we are “blaming the victim” this is a fallacy looking into the role the “victim” played is not blaming! think about it!

Bewildered

many women tend not to look at what they did when they are hurt!

They don’t have to because they are sooooo…. perfect according to a popular fairy tale.

Ravi Subba

Well said.

Objectivity

I have been a victim and I am male.

You would expect people to hear you and feel empathy… of which I do. You do not deserve to be treated like that.

I however expect people to laugh at me and ask me what I did… and they do.

nicko333

That is sad, but unfortunately, truth.

Paul Johnson

I am very sorry you had to go through that. I’m glad the environment is changing to see what has happened to you as a crime.

Times are a’changin’.

Paul Johnson

Your anecdote isn’t suitable for making policy and educating the public. A bibliography of HUNDREDS of studies is.

Objectivity

Actually, the studies are the most recent, the ones that interviewed both men and women instead of the old studies that only interviewed women as victims. We need to take a step back and realize that we have a good start on this issue, but we DO need to expand it to cover all victims and to hold all perpetrators accountable regardless of gender. For anyone that doesn’t believe a woman can be violent, just peruse this post. The level of name-calling, demeaning behavior is just as aggressive if not more so than any man. But we justify it based on gender. The aggressive behavior is the responsibility of that individual, but holding everyone accountable equally is our responsibility. If we fail, equality cannot exist.

Paul Johnson

If by reputable you mean, “One old study from the ’80s by gender ideologue Mary Koss (which has been debunked every year since it came out),” sure.

Jason

The Center for Disease Control said that 70% of all domestic violence is started by women?

wow!

Objectivity

Actually what cross says is identical to how we treat most male victims. What did he do/say is the first thing that leaves most peoples lips when a woman is violent to a man. Stupid… that is a bit harsh. Ignorant and in need of education. If I hit someone, I expect to be hit. If I don’t hit someone, I expect they will not hit me. If I get hit, I DO hold some culpability in the first scenario, but none in the latter. However, in DV in our current society, actions in a situation are never as important as gender. And that is as ignorant as anything else.

DietrichB

Here is domestic violence expert, Dr. Frank Ochberg, Psychiatrist, on why it is women who are the most common prey of domestic and other abuse and discrimination:

“Why does spouse abuse happen?

Although there are cases of wives who assault husbands, by and large spouse abuse happens because men batter and get away with it. Violent aggression is human, And among humans, the dangerous violators are overwhelmingly male. Males outnumber females as murderers, assaulters, sexual abusers and every other category of violent criminal action. Males use deadly weapons for sport, for war, for personal gain far more frequently than do females. The mammalian brain has sex-linked differences associating aggression and male gender. The male hormone, testosterone, is implicated in violent behavior.

Laboratory experiments on rats and mice show hormonally induced reversal of gender correlates with reversal of aggressive patterns of behavior. Any attempt to explain why spouse abuse happens must begin with the fact that the male of our species, for many reasons, has aggressive behaviors and these often find expression in the family.

Spouse abuse has historic roots. Females have been bought and sold and bartered, ritually branded and mutilated, denied education, land ownership, means of travel, and are not yet full partners in owning and controlling the major institutions of this world. In a political sense, the female gender is engaged in a long march from slavery, still eclipsed in the shadow of patriarchal dominance. When parity in power is sought, too often the seeker is punished. Behind closed doors the punishment may be swift, explosive and brutal.

Some cultures permit more subjugation and intimidation of women than do others. Some cultures extol the use of force to preserve the status of the male. When males teach males to slap their women to keep them in line, abuse is normative rather than aberrant. Although wife beating is no longer a publicly acceptable behavior, it is privately promoted within many male groups.

Why does the victim stay?

Why would a woman whose face is disfigured, whose bones are broken, whose pregnancy is lost, remain with a spouse who might beat her to death?

For some, there is simply no exit. The door is open but she cannot leave. She has no resources of her own. Her children need her. She is terrified of the police. Social workers are people who can declare you an unfit mother. The perpetrator has threatened to kill her if she leaves or if she tells and she knows no safe haven from him. There is no federal witness protection program for domestic assault victims. Her fear is real, the threat is real, the pathway to freedom cannot be found.

For some the shame is crushing. To heal in private, behind dark glasses, behind closed blinds is far better than to be seen by others. Physical pain is more bearable than shame. The shame is deeper than embarrassment. It is mortification, humiliation, dehumanization. Shame depends on the eyes of others. Avoid the eyes, avoid the shame. Stay home. Endure.

Some harbor hope for better times. The cycle of tension, abuse, relief; tension, abuse, relief has periods in which optimism is rewarded. Hope for the cessation of battering is realized and the relief experienced in the periods of peace is profound. Animal experimenters and human inquisitors know there is nothing as powerful as relief from torture as a positive reward for desired behavior. For some battered women the thin thread of hope and the episodic experience of relief reinforces her decision to stay.”

http://giftfromwithin.org/html/spousal.html
Sadly, since psychiatry sold out to Big Pharma in the 1980’s and created their bogus DSM bible of psychiatry by voting in pseudoscience stigmas like bipolar, ADHD and others while outlawing any consideration of context, environment or abuse on a victim’s health, the mental death profession has become a major perpetrator of further assault, violence and injustice against women rather than a source of help and recovery acknowledged by the few decent and ethical experts who have admitted this and tried to address the issue like Dr. Carole Warshaw, Dr. Peter Breggin, Dr. Frank Ochberg above, Dr. Susan Weitzman, Dr. Judith Herman and some others. Otherwise, the mental death profession like the rest of those in power aid and abet their fellow abusers in the courts, police, medicine and society in general. That’s why the so called “doctor” of this article cannot speak honestly about the cost of domestic violence that mainly women suffer. Check out the book, ERASED, about all the men who have killed their wives with most getting away with it and please find a comparable book and statistics on women killing husbands and getting away with it! Right!! Not going to happen for reasons Dr. Ochberg cites.
Due to centuries old patriarchal religions, countries, male bastions of power excluding women, the double standard, unequal pay and power even in the “great” USA today, the backlash against women as explained by Susan Falludi’s book, Backlash, and many others, women are the most inclined to not only be abused by men in domestic violence, but also be abused at work, community, school and every other public arena due to a disgusting imbalance of power, rights and equality in every area.
But, no surprise that the cheerleaders for male batterers would come out of the woodwork given this disgusting, misleading article!

R. Smith

you are needing to stop being mean to people because you feel that women are in the minority on help. If you look at the world today we have way more resourses for help than we ever had before. I am not even looking into getting statistics either, as it will be widly misinterpreted by all. I am going to say this loud and clear and not be mean about it…you are acting like you know it as much as the author. Abuse is aabuse, please do not make it about she vs. he. I have seen many people on oth sides get abused or have been in abusive relationships, both sides. It is never okay. To try to make it unequal is dangerous for everyone woh gets mistreated or abused. Sorry to be opinionated about it, but as a women who has been in situations not wanting to be, I still think abise should not happen to anyone at all. no matter who it is. and that is what the focus was mainly.

DietrichB

I’d say you are being “mean” by trying to bully me into agreeing with you and using abuse tactics like trying to define my reality, engage in putdowns, etc.
You have no idea about the credentials of the author or me, but suffice it to say I have studied this issue in depth and have witnessed the issue first hand.
So, you have expressed your opinion and I have expressed mine. Now, I will agree that women tend to bully other women especially at work or when they are trying to shaft a woman over a man and that can be pretty deadly for the victim. But, there is no way I would ever agree that women are as dangerous to men as men are to woman.
And speaking of credentials, I posted part of an article by the famous trauma expert, Dr. Frank Ochberg, Psychiatrist, who speaks of abuse of women on his great abuse/trauma web site, Gift From Within. So, I don’t think you are anyone to talk about anyone’s credentials when you are obviously just shooting off the hip with your personal opinions while my statements are based on tons of research by the REAL EXPERTS who do not agree with the nonexpert who wrote this bogus article!
And somebody spoke of all those resources for abused women! What a joke! There are more animal shelters than shelters for abused women and children fighting for their very lives!! All of you here make it quite clear as to why this shameful situation exists. Did you know it is often human nature to blame the victim and there is a book called Blaming the Victim!
Enjoy your pity party about all those poor abused/raped men out there!

CB

… crazy much? (>O<)

DietrichB

I’d say the real crazies are projecting their own insanity and violence on me because I hit a raw nerve by stating the TRUTH!! Accusing one of being crazy is a typical ploy of male abusers, so thanks for making my point with your fellow abuser above! See move, Gas light, by a psycho abuser trying to make his wife believe she’s crazy after killing her aunt so he can rob her blind. That’s the usual motive of male abusers killing their wives; to get all the marital assets and move on to the next victim without any hindrance!

CB

… I’m a girl…

DietrichB

Oh, Don’t get me wrong! I am well aware that female bullies tend to bully other women the most as in work abuse and other nasty situations, so a woman shafting other women is nothing unusual. See book by psychologist Dr. Phyllis Chesler, Woman’s Inhumanity to Woman and the book, In the Company of Women, about how women shaft other women at work so much women in higher positions are now unwilling to help other women. That’s why women will never get anywhere unlike the old boy network that knows enough to stick together. Thanks for your “input.”

CB

…okay? I don’t have a job cause im in high school??? And if I didn’t “stick together with fellow females” I wouldn’t bother to love my mom and 5 sisters like i do…?

DietrichB

CB, Glad to hear that those in the younger generation may be able to change many of the nasty dynamics that are perpetrated by bullies and abusers. But, as a high school student I would imagine that you see plenty of bullying and mobbing by the popular clique to maintain their status at others’ horrific expense. This is no innocent behavior because many are driven to suicide due to work/school/domestic abuse/bullying and mobbing as with the infamous Phoebe Prince case. The problem is girls/women mainly do their dirty work with what is called “relational aggression” or destroying the mainly female targets’ reputations and social relations and often get guys to do their dirty work while boys/men are more inclined to duke it out though they are merciless teasers and harrassers as well to their fellow males especially. So, boys/men tend to have more power, are usually stronger, are more physically violent per their higher testosterone per Dr. Ochberg above and do much more harm to their victims as the author of this article admits. I am not saying that women tend to be more moral as a rule, but girls tend to be conditioned to look out for others more than themselves and are pressured to live up to a higher standard in behavior than men. That’s one of the reasons girls/women tend to engage in sneaky, underhanded aggression against other girls/women especially whom they view as competition, which is very sad and impedes the progress of ALL women!!
Again, I hope your younger generation does things differently so that women can claim their rightful, equal status in the world and CHOOSE their options by supporting each other as the old boy network has been doing all along.
Another good trend is that abuse/bullying and mobbing dynamics are being exposed more and more so that it won’t be so easy to get away with such despicable behavior. Sadly, domestic violence against women and children is perpetrated in private homes or as in the infamous Rice case in closed elevators when the perp thinks nobody will catch him only to find he has been recorded on video surveillance for the whole world to see.
Thanks for your comment; the only one I find encouraging here.

chris

coo-coo…….coo-coo……coo-coo…..

DietrichB

You are projecting your own ignorance, less than ideal mental health and capacity with delusional disorder along with abusive traits described by experts on me.

I will leave all the female abuse deniers with this great brave article by a real man about the joke of claiming that male violence against women in any way compares to female violence against men or anyone for that matter:

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/09/no-hope-solo-is-not-like-ray-rice/380626/
Obviously, there is no use arguing with ignorant, abusive, narcissistic people/men who are insist on emulating climate change and Holocaust deniers when it comes to the neverending lies and excuses by cowardly, pathetic abusive men in their denial of their oppression and violence against women and children no less!
“The rest is silence” since there is no use trying to speak to the willfully ignorant and blind!

Themostunclean

Check their Disqus profile. I’d say crazy all the time, actually.

Themostunclean

After reading all of your ranting, SJW biased comments I can only come to one of two conclusions. 1- You didn’t read the article at all or just skimmed for the parts you could be most indignant about without actually knowing the context. Or 2- you’re just plain ignorant. I’m thinking it’s a bit of both.

DietrichB

Yes, Master Abuser!!! I’d say your rant is just what you are accusing me of and greatly demonstrates your own viciousness and violence! I’d say you are projecting your own lunacy on me when you can’t tolerate somebody having a different opinion than you, which is typical of abusers! They define their victim’s reality! You sound like a narcissist in that you see others as mere extensions of yourself who are not entitled to their own thoughts and opinions! Telling somebody to “shut up” is also abusive and rude! Boy, your violence really got worked up by somebody disagreeing with your male chauvinist world view. Sorry, the real experts beg to differ from you and this great expert author of this article.

Themostunclean

I’m actually fairly calm compared to the paranoid, delusional stuff you’re spewing. You’re obviously living in your own purely reactionary, paranoid world where you don’t bother to actually read or comprehend what you’re lambasting. Anyone disagreeing with you is an abuser or chauvinist. You don’t know the first thing about me yet you’re lobbing accusations.

The ironic thing is that your behavior, lashing out at others, hurling accusations and generally being a delusional and miserable person is just as abusive to others as you accuse them of being. There’s no use arguing with you because you’re either a troll or have serious problems.

Kevin Chenault

It seems to me you are the one intolerant of other opinions. You make a completely baseless accusation that Themostunclean is an abuser. Even more ironic its in the same breath you claim “They define their victim’s reality!” when this is exactly what you are attempting to do to him. It is blatantly obvious that you have both a myopic viewpoint of the world in general, and about Men in particular.

DietrichB

I haven’t attacked, judged or expressed intolerance of any individual’s opinion here! Rather, I was subjected to insults, accused of being crazy and a bunch of other false accusations because I expressed my own opinion of the article! I did not comment directly to anyone here until they ATTACKED and ABUSED me just like you are doing now by your own false accusations! I merely pointed out some of the traits of abusers which include defining their victims’ reality and other gems just like YOU ARE DOING NOW. MYOB!

chris

DietrichB…………I read every comment from top to bottom, and let me just say you are looney tunes. Coo-coo……..coo-coo…..

Eugene Jackson

@Kevin, make no sudden movements, don’t make eye contact and slowly back away from the keyboard.

Yeah I know DietrichB, I’ll do it for you: I’m the abuser who infests the world with pain and pestilence; who cut off the their tails of blind mice with carving knives; who tortures the puppies and kittens for man is evil.. yada, yada, yada??????!!!!!!!

adamnarcross

The moment you attributed a label of violence and character of abuser onto Thermotuclean you lost all credibility. your idea of abuse is so broad as to include any consideration of something you don’t personally sanction is just plain unhinged. If you think a few abrasive words said in reaction to your provocation makes him a chauvinist and violent, then you really have some problems because it sounds like you have more involved with embracing personal victimology than anything else.

DietrichB

I strongly urge you to check out the definitions of domestic violence. They are about exerting power, control and fear over the victim and include verbal, psychological, spiritual, financial, physical and other abuse/violence. They are intended to destroy the victim’s self esteem, relationships, career/livelihood and everything else important in her life so she is at the mercy of and trapped by the abuser. The abuser also engages in smear campaigns as a pre-emptive strike to invalidate the victim in advance with her family, friends and others in her life, so she is isolated and all the more at his mercy and has nowhere to turn as the abuse accelerates.
See expert Lundy Bancroft’s great book, Why Does He Do That? Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men. Bancroft ran programs for batterers in a group called Emerge and is considered an expert in the field. He shows how abusers have a huge entitlement mentality, so they use their anger and bullying to force their wives and children to walk on eggshells, so the abuser always get his way while his victims are destroyed. Further, the most dangerous time for abused women and their children is when they try to leave; that’s when they are most inclined to be killed! There is a saying that men fear women will laugh at them while women fear men will kill them. Which would you prefer?
I repeat that I was one of the first ones here to comment and I have been attacked viciously with many abusive, insulting comments with name calling, gas lighting, accusations I’m crazy and all the typical psychological cruelty so well mastered by abusers.

Anyway, I’m out of here. Unfortunately nobody here seems to have studied the evidence, which I have done, so engaging any more here is a lesson in futility. As Dr. Phil would say, “You either get it or you don’t,” and he’s been advocating for abused women on his show recently while he’s had no programs for abused men because they rarely get disfigured or killed in domestic violence as do women!

Donald Bolson

Men are victim to abuse as well as women. Your using an argument that’s strangely reminiscent of the abusers you loathe.

Granny47

Thank you so much for this article. It needs to be brought to light.

Mike

I believe that the only thing the author is trying to point out is that men are victims of domestic abuse just like women. I would suggest that you read the 2010 Study from the CDC – The National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey. Six of the eight authors of the study were women. The study states the following:
“About 1 in 4 women (24.3%) and 1 in 7 men (13.8%) have experienced severe physical violence by an intimate partner (e.g., hit with a fist or something hard, beaten, slammed against something) at some point in their lifetime.” Here is the study .. Read it http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_report2010-a.pdf

I don’t trust these studies because the statistics are faulty. I don’t know of many men who would call the police if their wives or girlfriends were victimizing them. I currently work in a hospital where all patients are asked about DV. All of the women who were being victimized by their spouses or boyfriends were willing to speak to a social worker and to the police…none of the men were. So, when statistics are being compiled they can’t possibly be an accurate representation of the extent of DV against men by women.

justin

well ive had my x call the police on me becuase she was attacking me and she feared i attack back all i did as she called was yell and scream at her and tell her she’d be going to jail if she called well she called i showed the police my bruises and well she got arested over the weekend they dropped the charges on her the system is messed up and is gender biased themslve reverse racism works the exact same way. when i was forcing my x to anger managment i even had a cousilor tell me if i don’t like her actions when she gets mad don’t make her mad doesn’t the saying go of a abuser ” if you don’t like what i do when i’m mad you shouldn’t do or not do things that piss me off” the point is it doesn’t matter what your doing or not doing the abuser is always going to be mad for what ever reason they can justify in their own mind. should we tell women the same thing the cousilor told me a guy. and that is then just stop pissing them off.??? ya like that works huh!!

Guest

One, what your saying would only amplify the numbers in the favor of the authors point here. And two, there is a world of difference between taking part in a study and talking to the police. Huge. The system is rigged in favor of women. The stigma of a man hitting a woman is so strong that it has an effect on our justice system. “Most of the women who were being victimized by their spouses or boyfriends were willing to speak to a social worker and to the police…none of the men were” Your very words should tell you that this is true. The other part being that men beat up by women aren’t taken seriously, and are laughed off like a joke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlFAd4YdQks there are more out there, but this gives a good idea as to the general feelings of people towards women abusing men, and the blatant double standard.

hg

There are similar studies in other English speaking countries as well. The CDC’s findings are incredibly consistent with the numbers from England/Wales, Ireland and Canada. There needs to be a campaign to raise awareness of this.

FrillArtist

Excellent article. Notice how the NFL has now hired FOUR WOMEN to enact policies about domestic violence among NFL players. No male voice included.

Sagamanus

Yeah and maybe after a black person is killed by a white police officer, they should form a panel with a good number of white men on it too right?

Enharmonics

I love the “logic” behind this statement – based purely on the presupposition that all white men are intrinsically biased and racist against blacks to the point that they are incapable of formulating an impartial opinion based on empirical data.

There’s a name for that kind of assumption… oh yeah, RACIAL PROFILING.

You “progressive” liberal retards are all the same. Idiots, hypocrites. Societal parasites.

Sagamanus

Well I am white, but you can drop dead. War mongering racist, misogynistic homophobes who think they’re the victims of anything are the real parasites. White people being racially profiled. Lol. Who could take that seriously. Don’t you got a Reagan convention to go to you conservawacko?

Bee Dubya

Yup, just like bill clinton – his accusers were sent to hillary for a good old beat down.

Sagamanus

What does this even mean? I wouldn’t vote for either party. Do you think Democrats are different from Republicans?

MarthaThompson

The NFL is run by MEN. The only reason they hired 4 women was they realized, AS MEN, they were doing a shitty job trying to figure how to penalize…other MEN, when they beat their wives.

I don’t understand your point. The real problem is they didn’t put any women of color. But realistically this “female group” will have no power to change anything..they are only there as stick figures for NFL PR.

NUK

The NFL is about football, a sport. It’s not about judging or ruling according to crimes that happen in other people’s private life, for that you have the Justice system. Take your fight there and leave the damned sport as a sport: leave the rest of the scum for the courts to deal with.

Bee Dubya

Unless its clinton – then you simply sick hillary on the women.

Paul Johnson

“…of color.”

I’m getting sick of seeing this racist phrase bandied about. Just go on ahead and say what you mean. “Non-whites.”

LostInUnderland

Consider for a moment the picture at the top of your article. The position of her arms indicates that she is handcuffed and she is certainly in court. Do you think if she had been a male abuser it would be just as likely or more likely for her to be handcuffed and in court for domestic violence? Of course women can be abusers, rapists, murderers and just about anything that a man can be. You present this idea like it is new. Also, “Men are told in one breath to shed their machismo and sexist leanings, and in the next they are told to ‘man up’ and take the blows dealt to them by their female partners. Men are being told that phrases like, ‘You throw like a girl,’ or ‘You hit like a girl,’ have chauvinistic underpinnings, while simultaneously being told, ‘It doesn’t matter if she hits you because, essentially, she hits like a girl and you can handle it, big boy.’ ” First, I do not believe ANYONE considers it okay for a woman to hit a man. If a person believes that it is okay for a woman to hit a man, I think it is highly likely that same person believes it is okay for a man to hit a woman. Phrases like “you throw like a girl” and “man up” are damaging to men and women. If someone tells you to “man up”, they are showing their own lack of understanding. Speaking out against such phrases and attitudes will lead to the kind of world in which men can seek help when they are abused without being ashamed.

anonomoose

“I do not believe ANYONE considers it okay for a woman to hit a man”

I don’t completely agree with this. Maybe not completely okay, but it’s definitely not something most people see as a big deal. As the article points out, consider the number of times we hear that we have to teach boys that they should respect women and hitting a girl is never okay. Yet, despite evidence that women can also be guilty of domestic violence, you never hear people suggesting we teach girls that hitting boys isn’t okay.

Think about the following scenario: A girl finds out her boyfriend has cheated on her, and slaps him. This happens on TV shows all the time, and is usually thought of as funny. If it were the reverse, though, suddenly it’s a very serious domestic violence issue and not to be joked about.

See the following example as well:http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20140919/LOCAL07/309199947/1002/LOCAL
Particularly, the following quote: “Eventually, the boy tried to protect himself, at which point Bredemeyer
told him he would be arrested since he left marks on her, the report
said.” Apparently, this adult woman believed that it was okay for her to beat a crying boy, but if he tried to defend himself he would be arrested for hurting her. And who knows, if there hadn’t been a video, he might have been. This is the kind of thing that happens when we perpetuate the idea that there is no excuse for boys to hit girls, but make girls hurting boys into comedy.

Now, I have some doubts as to the numbers provided in this article, and would tend to believe that women are far more likely to be the victims of domestic violence than men. But that doesn’t mean they’re the only victims. It feels a little unfair to me to drill into boy’s heads that it is never okay to hit a girl, and then to find it funny when the reverse happens.

MarthaThompson

My knee jerk reaction to this statement is “A girl finds out her boyfriend has cheated on her, and slaps him.” he can still walk away. Change the statement to “A boy finds out his girlfriend is cheating” it’s not usually a slap it’s a punch, worse case scenario—murder. We’ve all seen those stories.

I understand your point. I was raised not to hit.period. Male, female, animals, whatever. My 4 brothers were raised not to hit girls…insinuating they could could beat the crap out of each other or other boys but not the same on a girl.

nickel

Demonstration of your ignorance on the topic.
Look, its not about the woman beating the man up. Its about a systematic agenda of control and terrorizing the man. Getting him thrown in jail for her violence. You dont get it.

Donald Bolson

Martha Martha Martha Having read a few of your comments I highly suggest you read literature on domestic violence and how it plays in a relationship. Cause bluntly, you sound fucking stupid. Also just due to being raised a certain way doesn’t validate it. That would be same If my dad raised me to keep my mother in her place and her mouth shut. “Well my daddy raised me like this” In fact it’s precisely whats wrong with common wisdom. A woman has no right to hit a man, just as a man has no right to hit a woman. By you endorsing your argument that it’s okay to hit men, you make it harder to change the minds of people with the exact opposite view you have. What , cause woman mostly hit lighter its okay? Thanks I’ll just smack my bitches around with an open palm then and go easy. No, that’s fucking stupid. No one has the right to put their hands on me, and if someone does I’m going to defend myself.

Awakened Avenger

“I do not believe ANYONE considers it okay for a woman to hit a man”. Idk? In cinema for the last 100+ years, it was perfectly OK for ‘upset’ or angry women to ‘slap’ the shit out of men. Audiences usually giggle at this type of socially accepted ‘abuse’. Final point is if you don’t want to get seven shades of shit kicked out of you, then keep your hands to yourself.

wildwillywong

In many cases, a man is arrested for defending himself against an attacking woman. It nearly happened to me. An incident occurred where I was attacked by a woman who was throwing objects at me, and I received a small cut on the palm of my hand when I deflected one of them.

When two police officers showed up, one of them had on tight black leather gloves and had his hands in a fist most of the time the police were there, and this officer was shadowing me as if he were ready to pounce at any time. He wanted to fight me really, really bad.

The attacker had fled the residence, so he wasn’t able to falsely accuse me as he obviously wanted to. I didn’t think anything of the small cut on the inside of my hand until he said “Was anybody hurt?” When I showed him the slightly bleeding cut on the inside of my hand, I could see his heart sink to the floor. He know at that point that he was obligated by law to arrest the attacking woman, and he wasn’t going to be able to brutalize me as he obviously wanted to.

Even though he was required by law to arrest the woman, he didn’t. I didn’t call him on it because I knew that at some time, he could and would retaliate against me. I voluntarily agreed to leave my residence, and as I was going out he said he was going to follow me in his squad car until I got to where I was going, but first I would have to pass a breathalyzer test. I blew into his little device and again a look of sadness crossed his face.

He reset the unit and asked me to do it again. After I passed two times, he was utterly dejected and angry, but he knew he had been beaten this particular night and his fantasy of rescuing a damsel in distress had been shot down in flames.

The point is, the myth of domestic violence being done only by men is a cruel hoax, and in the very vast majority of cases the man is simply defending himself. After seeing what can happen first hand, I have no sympathy for any woman who claims she was just baking cookies while doing the dishes, and vacuuming the living room when she was attacked for no reason.

Women lie about domestic violence all the time, and they are completely stupid fools for attacking someone twice their size, with twice their strength. Naturally they are going to lose that fight, but they do it knowing that society will side with them 100% of the time.

This happened to a family member but the female was arrested. The female officer in charge of the domestic abuse complaints coached the woman on what to say and do and my family member was arrested and convicted of stalking after sending a single text message. The fact that he wasn’t properly served didn’t matter.

In this case, the responding officers were correct in their assessment but the rest of the “justice” system failed.

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Christopher Stuart

I remember when I was 6 years old, my father moved us out to the country. I saw next door to me a rooster that was perched upon a fence. I thought it would be fun and interesting to throw rocks at it. After about 5-10 throws (small pebbles), it proceeded to come down off the fence and kick my ass. Scratches and peck marks all over.

I ran into the house crying the rooster attacked me and “packed me, mom!!!”. In those days, that could mean the “axe” for an ill-tempered rooster but I think my father overlooked it. (I mean, my father didn’t believe I was a good boy all the time?)

I see no difference to what happens in our society with men and women a lot of times.

We probably need stronger laws or more enforced laws of “taunting.” It’s a legitimate NFL penalty and I think it carries 15 yards with it. Refs do it to preserve order and civility in a game lest it just devolve to be an ongoing brawl with the person striking the hardest getting ejected.

I guess what I am saying is men are going to have to be more educated and proactive about this kind of a law.

Not that women ever taunt their partners. . .

Kab

In many cases, a man is arrested for defending himself against an attacking woman”

This I can see to be true

The point is, the myth of domestic violence being done only by men is a cruel hoax

No one ever said only men can be abusive, just that the majority of abusers are men.

After seeing what can happen first hand, I have no sympathy for any
woman who claims she was just baking cookies while doing the dishes, and
vacuuming the living room when she was attacked for no reason.

So because of your personal experience, every woman that says she was attacked by a man or abused is now a liar or deserves it.

Regardless of what has personally happened to you, violence against women by men is a real thing and happens a lot.

LogicalReminder

“No one ever said only men can be abusive, just that the majority of abusers are men.”

Odd you would say that… Based on this article, a majority of the abusers are women. Most DV is reciprocated, and when it is only one-way violence, the research shows women in the lead.

Violence against women IS a real thing. So is violence against men. Isn’t it time we stop pretending like the majority of abusers are men, start waking up to the facts in the research and stop trying to cling to a political story that is not true? Is it not high time for a “Violence against humans” act?

I realize it doesn’t get votes as it is hard to look like a “Knight” standing a pulpit protecting men too, but shouldn’t we as a society address the entire issue with our heads out of the sand? Every human being deserves the same respect as another regardless of what is between their legs, but society doesn’t work that way does it? We wonderfully protect women from having to register for the draft, while sending hundreds of thousands of young men to die in other countries. We protect a baby girl’s body from even having a pin prick in her prepuce at birth, even if it is for religious reasons… in fact, I’m greatly appreciative it is a federal law… but boys? The same fold of skin can be completely cut off for no other reason than we like the way it looks, killing 100 baby boys each year, and we don’t even have a discussion about it. We give women a choice at EVERY step along the way about whether or not she wants to be a parent, be it abortion, adoption or safe have… yet men we still hold to accountability on the night of conception. If we really want to have equality, we need to maintain the laws that are there to protect women, and do nothing more than expand them to include men. We’ve already done the work getting the law created… we need only allow it to protect all humans.

Kab

I find it really hard to believe the majority of abusers are women. The majority of murderers are men, the majority of rapists are men, the majority of criminals are men, how is it that the majority of abusers could possibly be women if men are universally more violent than them and do most crimes. I won’t lie, it’s great to not have to sign up for the draft, but that is an advantage that we have as women, men have their own set of advantages also. There are many countries where women and girls go through so much worse than circumcision and having to sign up for the draft, they’re married off at young ages to husbands 5 times older than them, they’re beaten badly and killed, they have absolutely no rights, they have no choices, and there are countries where girls old enough to know what is happening get circumcised, and because these countries aren’t as developed it hurts a hell of a lot more than a baby boy in America getting circumcised because the tools used are not as sterile or effective, and I would guarantee more than 100 girls die a year because of it in these countries. The reason women get more say in whether she wants to be a parent is because it’s her body, men already get the satisfaction of being able to bring a child into this world without having to do anything other than have sex, something they’ve probably done lots of times for pleasure, the person who does more work should definitely have more say, and women do 99.99% of the work. Now I am dead set against abortion so I’m not condoning that cause I believe people should take responsibility for their actions instead of punishing a child, but just because I hate abortion doesn’t mean I can tell someone what to do with their body. Now adoption that’s different, if she doesn’t want the child but the husband does, just have him raise baby and make all decisions regarding the child.

Murphy

“I find it really hard to believe the majority of abusers are women.”

Maybe if you weren’t so terribly sexist it wouldn’t be so hard for you to accept reality.

Paul Johnson

Especially when there’s a mountain of evidence to demonstrate that.

What are you going to believe? A bibliography of hundreds of studies that all say essentially the same thing, or one study by gender ideologue Mary Koss who clearly had the conclusion drawn up beforehand and drafted her study to produce the desired result?

Honest Guy

“I find it really hard to believe the majority of abusers are women.”

We live in a culture where girls are taught that they are downright EXPECTED to slap and throw things at their husbands/boyfriends out of anger. Furthermore, they are taught that they aren’t accountable for it! This is reinforced time after time, when they actually do it and then are not accountable for it. That’s the only reason you believe men are “more violent” and are “the majority of abusers”. It really is a scathing indictment of our culture, our society, and our system of law enforcement.
On nearly every single domestic violence call, the police decide before arriving at the scene that the man is going to jail. This is true even if he is the one who called 911, and is true even if it is apparent on the phone that he is calm and she is out of control. If there is any indication that he has had anything at all to drink that night, then the officers will arrive and ask him to tell them what happened out in front of the house. Then they will arrest him on the spot for being drunk in public. I know this, because I’m a civilian employee of a police agency, and I’ve seen it happen first-hand. I’m not proud of it. I think it’s terrible. But it’s expedient, which unfortunately is what the officers are going for.

Anders

I think it is relatively simple. Men may be more violent, but they are also conditioned, biologically and culturally, to never hit women and children. Even otherwise psychopathic criminals sometimes adhere to this norm. Women have fewer such barriers. They often consider their actions justified, like kicking upwards. Movies, for example, almost always show female on male violence as justified, and the opposite as the epitome of villainy.

Given that, is it much of a surprise that women predominate? The hysteria surrounding violence against women is not so much based on urgency, but on the manner in which it addresses the inherent desire of both sexes to protect women (a desire that not long ago, in a world full of violence and disease, was a prerequisite for survival of the tribe).

Make sense?

Objectivity

The majority of criminals we hold responsible for their behavior are men. As a society we refuse to hold women responsible for anything. She can get pregnant by having sex with a drunk man and not be a rapist… then she can get an abortion, turn it over to safe haven or adopt it out with no further responsibility for her action. We hold him to the night of conception… society would scream misogyny if women were held to the same responsibility. Throughout history all societies have killed our men in gendercides we call wars. To touch the prepuce of a female with even a pin prick is a federal crime (thank goodness)… being a crime against humanity… and in the same breath say it is ok to cut the same fold of skin completely off of a baby boy, killing 100 each year… so how many is too many? With the stupidity of society in holding only one gender accountable, and only protecting the other, is it so hard to believe we’d ignore male victims of domestic violence? Who cares? If a man comes in with a black eye, we ask what did he say or do… but if you ask that of a woman, suddenly you see the insanity society embraces in the hypocrisy it carries out. The basis of equality is responsibility and accountability. Society wants to sound good by screaming it, but has NO intention of creating the ability for it to exist. We are indoctrinated to believe the opposite of reality, merely justifying the hypocrisy so we can continue in the myth. Odd, isnt it?

Sagamanus

Men started those wars. And its also the pool from which masculinity benefits from. You would think the entire majority of MRA’s would be anti-war if it was the case. As of now none of them are. And they continue to mythologize it as a necessary sacrifice.

Objectivity

You speak in absolutes as if all men and all women behave and believe everything based on their gender. This is reminiscent of hate groups throughout history. If women were in roles of leadership, they too would be involved in war. In fact throughout history women leaders proved equal as humans in acts of war. But what is history compared to a rant? Soap boxes get extremely slippery when doused with facts. Do be careful.

Paul Johnson

You’re making shit up. Demonstrate that MRAs aren’t in majority anti-war. And for the record, men don’t start wars, politicians do.

Politicians aren’t a gender it all. Politics is a career path, not a sex. Women who run for office have the same chance of success as men.

Sagamanus

Oh man you got me there. I mean women have started all those wars that men love, right?

Paul Johnson

I didn’t say women started any wars. Women is a demographic group. So are men. Demographic groups don’t start wars, politicians do. Nobody likes war except arms dealers and politicians who get rich from it.

Sagamanus

Men love war. They love violence in all aspects of their life. I should know I am one who has been around men all my life. Don’t tell me what they are and aren’t.

George Tasker

Margaret Thatcher started a war with Argentina.

Sagamanus

Holy crap you’re right. Clearly one woman skews it in the opposite direction. I mean I’ve been wrong all along!

George Tasker

Sounds to me as if you never heard of the White Feather campaign of World War I.

Sagamanus

Lol. You MRA’s are idiots. You make it sound as if they were the impetus for WW1 and that without them it wouldn’t have even happened. HAVE SOME GOD DAMN CONDEMNATION FOR THE MEN WHO LAUNCHED IT AND FOUGHT IT! Not something insignificant and misplaced. White Feather was a male creation too.

George Tasker

Yes as is just about everything you currently use to enjoy your life as a social justice warrior. That room you’re sitting in now, built by men, that chair you’re sitting on, built by men, that road you used today, built by men, the telecommunications system you’re using to send your drivel, built by men.

The feminism campaign that you’re part of was started by men as well. The vote that you currently enjoy having was given to you by men. All you are proving by what you have said is that women are fantastic followers but terrible leaders in general. Women subconsciously know this which is why they never bother to apply for leadership positions in general.

They also have no values and that is why they rarely fight. They would sooner change their own values than get frozen out of the female heard. Men have values and generally would rather die than change their values. Hence this “love for violence” that you love to spout on about.

Sagamanus

You have built none of those things you piece of trash. I owe no one anything and especially not you. I’m a white guy btw and no way in hell would I praise someone for doing those things. None of it was done for the human race and none of it for free. It’s momentum that’s it. You make it sound as if you’ve made some kind of contribution just for being a man, when we both know you haven’t.

Women were also prevented from even entering most fields for the longest time too, as if this would remedy itself over years or decades. It hasn’t for other minorities either since the ‘ol WHITE MALE BOYS CLUB’ still predominates.

Everything you say bad about women can be applied to other minorities as well. God knows you think that white males are the most maligned group out there showing how ridiculous you are.

And don’t tell me about women’s predilections for following when it’s men who don’t even challenge the paradigm for war and go wherever they are told. You are no doubt one of those morons.

Oh and someone should tell you that SJW is only a bad word to right wing wackos like you. The people you accuse of being SJW have fully embraced it as have I. In no way would anyone ever think that’s a bad word no matter how much you try to use it like a weapon.

Keep feeding at that MRA trough. Sooner or later you’ll become a mass shooter, but remember. Save one bullet for yourself.

George Tasker

I hope you have your tampons at the ready as it seems as if it has become that time of the month for you.

Sagamanus

Don’t you have a kid to stalk pedophile?

George Tasker

Yeah! You!

Sagamanus

That’s the 5th Male rights wacko I’ve encountered whose first reply wasn’t to deny he was a pedophile. I’m sensing a pattern.

George Tasker

Yeah but not smart enough to know what it is. The pattern is that you’ll believe what you want to believe regardless of admissions or denials to the contrary.

Sagamanus

Again no denial of actually being a pedophile. I will take that as a 100% confirmation that you are.

George Tasker

I love to hear you vocalising your projections of yourself onto other people.

Sagamanus

Again no denial. The first thing should be that you aren’t one. But then you do think women rule the world and are sapping your precious bodily fluids. Don’t worry about getting her pregnant. You’re sterile!

George Tasker

Keep vocalising those projections darling.

Sagamanus

Machine man. Come together with your plan. Machine man.

George Tasker

And the projections continue.

Sagamanus

Read yourself at ROK then talk to me about projections pedo.

George Tasker

You’re really fixated on pedo projections aren’t you.

Sagamanus

Machine code. Machine code.

Sagamanus

Machine man. Machine man. Machine man!

Jay Henriksen

Why would anyone justify such ignorant and baseless claims with a response?

Sagamanus

MRA?

Jay Henriksen

You’re clearly a nutcase with an agenda. I don’t associate with any groups which segregate themselves from other groups while claiming to want equal rights to said groups. It’s a contradiction to work towards equality only in facets where it negatively affects a class you belong to while ignoring it where it benefits said class and negatively affects another/others. Feminists and MRAs alike are guilty of this.

Not sure why I’m bothering with a response, though. You clearly have so much hatred towards men that any logical and rational point made to you falls upon deaf ears. You immediately dismiss any argument against you as coming from what must be a member of an MRA. You’re ignorant and too stubborn to enlighten.

Have a good day.

Jesus

what is your problem lady? guys get abused every day and i am one of those victims. i wish i could have hit her back and make her feel the humiliation that i felt when she did that. but i didn’t. because i know politicaly correct yahoos such as yourself in this society will back up whatever a women says against a man. you sexist partisan

Sagamanus

Drop dead woman hater. You don’t seem to see your partisanship do you? The only people using the term ‘Politically correct’ are libertarian wackos who think they’ve taken a neutral position on things and are beyond right and left. Guys get abused by other guys on pretty much everything and I don’t see you exerting your precious time to condemn them for anything. In fact other men are your problem the overwhelming majority of the time. So save your hate for them.

Objectivity

And this from you… so sure to blame everyone that looks like someone who did something. So angry at men you’ll grasp at anything to demean, destroy, probably kill. And you pretend in some way that men are the ones to blame for war? Go back and read through your posts… go ahead, I’ll wait… Tell me, who hates more… tell me who has more evil in their soul. Those that fight tyranny, even if they are male, or those that propagate it, even if they are female, such as yourself. Are you so angry and jealous that you weren’t the cause of WWII? It sounds like something you’d be very happy to have done. Think about it… you could have killed 500,000 American men just like that. Fathers, sons, brothers, husbands, good human beings. But because they were born a certain way, they deserve to die. I do believe German leaders used to propagate the same. The most evil, vile leaders to ever exist on the planet, and YOU, a female, model yourself and your responses after them. So I’m sorry… what was your point again? That men, just because they are men, are all evil? Even the depiction of yourself shows your character. If you are female, you, yourself are proof everything you say is wrong. You know it, yet you still pretend to claim otherwise, even though you act in complete opposite of what you claim.

Your writings are a piece of work. Completely sexist and maligned, but it’s OK right, it’s from you. I’m sure a former German leader felt just as justified to do exactly what you do. Congratulations… your hate has been clearly identified. And by the way, like racism and your sexism, hate has no place in society for women or men. But carry it with you if it keeps you warm.

Sagamanus

F off windbag. I’m not reading a wall of text.

Objectivity

Probably better you dont try. Based solely on your posts, it’s very doubtful you would have the attention span, let alone the ability to comprehend.

Sagamanus

Based solely on your hot air, it’s a volcano in here. Illiterate monkey.

Objectivity

Yes, your use of namecalling shows clearly how intelligent you are. I wonder if in a debate at Yale, the opposing team has ever screamed, “you’re a big stupid monkey?” I wonder if that would win the award for intelligent debate? So continue to expose your lack of substance by calling names… I guess that’s what adults do in your world. For the rest of us, we expect it of 5 year olds. And we eventually teach them the right way to communicate.

Sagamanus

CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT PLEASE! Thank you.

Objectivity

Your abuse will not be tolerated. Your childish namecalling will never be taken seriously. You will present yourself as a joke the more you are given the opprtunity to communicate. Keep it coming. My account stays. You will learn at some point hate and desire to control makes you look foolish. We see it, but keep posting until you do.

Yes, your childish namecalling abuse. Textbook domestic violence. You are an abuser, no wonder you don’t want it to be a law that protects all equally. As I said before, my account stays. Your attempts at belittling, controlling, ignorance of facts and acting out violence in a public forum expose you for whi you are. You’ll do anything to try to hide it. Deflect, dodge, call names, try to control others. The mirror is not your friend…it is what you profoundly scream profanities at. One day your mind will mature, but not without you kicking and screaming all the way. Not part of any MRA, but it is your go-to safe place to avoid reality. You jump to it every time you’re close to a logical break-through. A defense mechanism, like an ostrich, to keep your head deeply buried.

Sagamanus

Starts crying. Cheeks get redder. PLEASE CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT!!!

Objectivity

As I said before. No. Your control knows nothing here. Your hate has no power. Your bigotry will be exposed and your pathetic fight against your own demons will continue.

Sagamanus

Lol. Oh god.

Objectivity

No, but at least your name calling is getting better.

Sagamanus

Haha. Oh god are you illiterate.

Sagamanus

You’re barely even literate. So can you do me one favor and please cancel your account!? Thank you.

Objectivity

As long as there are terroists like you, hating people solely based on how they were born, you will find people like me who shine a light on your dark hate and tell you it is not ok. Society doenst need you any more than it needed hitler. I will do you no favors…ever. You will be called out for your hate at every corner, you and all of those that hate as you hate. Your kind is being recognized and turned away from… but rather than change to the path that helps society, you are hell-bent on going back to the 1950s. Hating people because of how they are born has no place in this century… so do yourself a favor and cancel your account, then be reborn with a sense of humanity. Your hate and anger, namecalling, condescending words only represent your inability to communicate. It shows not intelligence, but a complete lack of control. For each angered insult, you only show the depths of stupidity you are willing to stoop to hold tightly to the hate you see as part of who you are. Let go of the hate and find a better country, a better world, a better human being inside. But sadly, you do not sound like one who is ready. You seem bound and determined to prove your lack of thinking with each insult, each angry rant, each hateful statement. I will continue to respond to you and my account is going nowhere.

Sagamanus

TL;DR – Windbag cancel your account now!

Objectivity

Easy. No. Your hate and desire to control, your abuse, will not be tolerated. Nor should it be.

Sagamanus

All you are proving is that all men are liars and devious bastards who weild power behind the scenes for nefarious designs. Grow up and condemn MEN FOR ONCE IN YOUR PATHETIC LIFE.

George Tasker

There’s no need. You sheila’s have already been doing it for generations. You just don’t like being held accountable for your own actions toots.

Sagamanus

Lol. As if men have ever been accountable. The fact men can get away with rape the majority of the time as they rarely see a prison cell. You for instance.

George Tasker

You love your rape fantasies don’t you.

Sagamanus

You’re from ROK. The home of mass shooters, rapists, and pedo’s. And I’m banned from there. Apparently you have to be a child killer to be a member. Hey wait you’re a member!

George Tasker

I see. You’re obviously upset about being banned from ROK because you’re yet another mass shooter/rapist/pedo who wanted in with the club. You must be some special kind to be unacceptable to such a club.

Sagamanus

Fantastic comeback. I mean it makes no sense whatsoever such is the quality. Definitely a difficult achievement. You must be commended.

George Tasker

That’s fine if it makes no sense to you. Your lack of smarts to determine the truth is already public record. I’m only continuing for the benefit of the public reading this exchange so that they can see for themselves you lack of comprehension.

Sagamanus

They only need to look at your ROK history to find a racist, misogynistic, homophobic pedophile who is two seconds away from becoming a mass shooter.

George Tasker

Interesting that you seem to find a racist, misogynistic, homophic, pedophile, wannabee mass shooter under every rock. You sure you’re not projecting?

Sagamanus

You are an obvious one. Ever read yourself? Probably not as your split personality which is an even bigger pedo than your so-called normal self tries to stay on the down low.

George Tasker

Keep vocalising those projections my dear.

Sagamanus

You should listen to your split personality once in a while otherwise you’ll only have mass shooter as a future job prospect.

women have started and been involved in wars as well. do you forget Joan of arch? Madeline Albright? queen Sheba, etc. to say its only men who start wars is sexist and ignorant!

Paul Johnson

Oh, and MRAs (feel free to call me one, I’m actually a self-proclaimed MRA) aren’t situated anywhere particular on the political spectrum, though there is a heavy libertarian influence. I’m just as weary of traditionalists as I am feminists.

Sagamanus

Libertarian. Big surprise. The spectrum of wacko in that strain is unbelievable.

Sagamanus

What the hell does self-proclaimed mean? So what you don’t officially belong to any group. Skinheads aren’t official members of the original NAZI party either.

Paul Johnson

It means I proclaim it myself. It means I’m an MRA because I say I’m an MRA, not because you do, as you have done with pretty much everybody who disagrees with you here.

Sagamanus

What? I think therefore I am…an eggplant.

MRA’s circle-jerking each other are not agreement. They’re a mob who thinks female violence is out of control on a world where only men’s is.

Paul Johnson

I bet you’re a 10%er, like Krista “Femitheist Divine” Heflin. You’d like to see the male population culled as much as possible, wouldn’t you?

Do you think you’d be one of the 10%? I’m not sure you’re self-deprecating enough.

Sagamanus

You’re nuts. As if that was representative of anything. You should not exist though I will agree on that. Men are the ones in power. If there is any culling of people like you it will be at the hands of other men. You’re too god damn stupid, just like the rest of your pedo allies to know that.

Objectivity

“The majority of murderers are men, the majority of rapists are men, the majority of criminals are men”
But you miss that a majority of men are not murderers, rapists or criminals. In fact most men are honest, decent human beings, just as most women are. Dont misunderstand statistics… if most murderers are men, it does not preclude women from being the primary offender in child abuse or domestic violence. There is no connection in these numbers. It’s like saying most child abuse is caused by women so I find it hard to believe most of those who murder are men. One cannot be used as proof of the other.

Paul Johnson

Yes, there are plenty of gender ideologues who believe that only men can be abusive, and that whenever a woman is acting violently, she’s merely defending herself — even if she’s the only one who was violent.

PolybiusTestUnit

Depends on what you’re’ talking about.

For the record, the majority of child abusers are women:

“In 2012, Child Protective Services estimated that 686,000 children were victims of maltreatment in the United States. 45% of the total number of perpetrators were men. And 54%? Women.”

You are also more likely to be physically assaulted in a lesbian relationship, than a heterosexual one:

“The National Violence Against Women survey found that 21.5 percent of
men and 35.4 percent of women living with a same-sex partner experienced
intimate-partner physical violence in their lifetimes, compared with
7.1 percent and 20.4 percent for men and women, respectively, with a
history of only opposite-sex cohabitation. ”

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Smegtasticus

Cops often seem like simple-minded brutes with a very black and white worldview. It’s sad that we have to rely on such thugs to “protect” us. I know they’re not all bad, since I’ve met some decent ones when I was working in security, but the one you’re describing sounds like the type of cop I described in the first sentence of my comment.

Andrea Jean

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Tara Richard

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Eduardo Morris

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Sue Preedy

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Hansford ann

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mrcanada976

I totally agree with your well thought out missive. Just last Friday I was attacked by a female room renter in my home. She was supposed to leave and was a litigous type, so rather than try to throw her crap outside I simply cut the power, heat and hot water and went out with friends for the night. (I figured she’d get more motivation to pack if it was cold. On top of that she had stolen an electric fireplace of mine and was secretly using it, double heating her room, so I had a snicker that she was going to have to not only deal with the normal house temperature but with the furnace disabled).
All I had done was cut the main breaker, and while I was out the police called me about the power. I told them how to turn it back on, simple: switch on the main breaker. So the chick got her lights back, whatever, the police said she was going to leave. Her original plan was to demand her damage deposit back, in cash (not a check), leave stuff in the room she was supposed to vacate, and keep a key. I got to tell the officer that this plan was unacceptable so I switched off the power, and she trying to look like the “good person” agreed to leave thank god.
Now on top of this whole situation with her leaving, she had made my life a living hell over the past 45 days. She would eavesdrop on my conversations and come out and start screaming at me. She by this point had twice been screaming at me and begging me to “kick her ass”, and once to one of my friends who just happened to be visiting while we were talking in the kitchen.
So this night I had come home and was drunk after being out with friends. I had one drink at home that I was going to have and go to bed. Out comes this woman, screaming and yelling at me and I just kept repeating that all she needed to do was pack her things and leave by 1pm the next day. I was sitting, she was standing, lording over me.
Then, she slapped me straight across the face, probably as hard as she could; this is after an hour of taunting, belittling me, calling me a drunk. That was a very challenging moment. I knew the system. Fight back and I end up in jail, this litigous woman was trying to provoke me into hitting her so she could call the cops on me. Given that I was out drinking in a he said she said I would lose. I told her to get out of my face and she grabbed my glass and threw it at my face. Sick and tired of this situation I pushed her into her room and closed the bedroom door- I figured a barrier between us would end this abuse.
But it didn’t. She came flying out of the room and attacked me with a broom handle. I shoved her back into her room and closed the door, and when she came flying out of the room again I figured I had to just call the police. Once I did that she finally shut up; the police never came, they did call me and I talked to them the next day.
It was a troubling situation. Here I’m getting attacked, accosted, provoked with weapons of increasing power. I’ve been drinking and I am maintaining my cool. But knowing that I can’t fight back was so very frustrating. Someone who attacks you with a broom handle deserves to be thrown to the ground, and all I could do was disarm her and try to maintain a safe distance.
The next morning, I left my own house. The police officer called me and I chatted. She was sympathetic, but then called me and said that the Sergeant wanted to speak to the both of us. I just wanted this woman to leave my house. What stopped me having to sit there and be accused of whatever in some potentially horrible conversation was the fact that I had left and I was nowhere near the house. I came back around lunchtime and the crazy chick left on time.
Its a horribly unfair situation. I am attacked, accosted, provoked, with and without weapons, in my own house, and I know full well that the best way to ensure my legal safety is to leave my own premises. By all rights the cops should have arrested her for wasting police resources. But she has a vagina.
The justice system has to take better into account that women are quite prone to violence. Not all women hit men with casual indifference, but most have used violence on men at one point or another that, if the genders were reversed, would probably result in charges The current state of affairs leaves men in fear. A woman would have to practically stab you to be the one escorted off in silver bracelets. If she has a scratch left by the cat she can call the police and you will either be arrested, or at minimum told to vacate your own home. Women can even have no discernable injury and claim abuse and have a man arrested or forced out of his own home. Its crazy.
And I do have to wonder what was going through that woman’s mind. Here I have 12 years of martial arts experience, I’ve been drinking most the night out, and she thinks it’s a perfectly logical idea to come and attack me with and without weapons, taunt me and try to provoke me to physically fight with her for over an hour. The logic is that she is operating under the impression that because I’m a man I “can’t” hit her back, so this abusive behavior is safe – and if I do hit her back she can run to the police.
If it were a situation between men, or probably between two women, it would have never happened that way. To provoke an attack, and attack, and you will likely see someone respond in-kind. So there may have been some yelling or more likely just quiet fuming while he packed his things. Maybe some choice words. Absolutely not slapping throwing dishes and attacking with a broom handle.
Anyways I am digressing and starting to repeat myself. But this is a real problem that needs to be solved – by women for women. It is not acceptable to hit or provoke someone and then run to the justice system if they defend themselves.
I can only thank my lucky stars that the attending officer was a woman. When I was recanting what happened, I said to her, “You will likely understand, as you are both a woman and a police officer. While I’m getting attacked, because she’s a woman I am wary of even defending myself because I know how the system works.” The female officer completely agreed. I’m sure she sees this play out all the time.

DietrichB

I feel nothing but contempt for this author’s pretense of being a “doctor” and trying to claim that the violence against women is equal to women’s violence against men. How many men or children does one see getting killed when they leave the relationship? With violent men all too frequently they kill the woman and often the children when the victim tries to leave after years of psychological, financial, spiritual, physical torture! But the mental death profession claims to forcibly commit and drug those who are a danger to themselves and others. When is the last time a batterer was committed to stop him from killing the woman and/or children in his life though he had a long time pattern with the terrified, terrorized victims. And though women accused of abusing/killing men get maximum penalties, men mostly abuse with impunity often not even facing jail. See book, Political Ponerology, Snakes in Suits, Without Conscience, Working with Monsters and many others showing the impact of psychopaths inventing and controlling the courts and other social systems with those in power mostly men.
Many narcissistic, psychopathic men have been guided by their equally sadistic, evil lawyers to falsely accuse their abused wives and children of being violent, mentally ill and other LIES so they can get restraining orders when the women and children are traumatized wrecks from the abuse and most vulnerable, so the abuser can gain custody and rob the victim of all assets. So, many of the so called abused men are manipulative liars turning the tables on their victims to get all assets while gleefully destroying the victims with impunity with much help from the courts, mental death profession, employers and others in power.
Batterer experts from Emerge, a domestic violence program that sees through such abusers’ ploys, does not fall for this garbage from violent men because they are well aware of the abusers’ many lies, manipulations, entitlement, narcissism, etc. See Lundy Bancroft’s Why Does He Do That: Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men. Bancroft, a former Emerge batterer expert, is well aware of how horribly and unfairly abused women are treated in the courts, the mental death system and other supposed sources of help that blame and destroy the victims. See book, Divorced From Justice.
This author obviously does not have a clue about the horrific psychological soul murder that the abuser inflicts on the woman with constant rages, abuse, lies, gas lighting, smear campaigns with all of the victims’ social support system and general torture of the woman and children. See book, Stalking the Soul about emotional abuse and the erosion of identity by a psychiatrist, about how the male abuser demolishes the victims with psychological violence over time to the point that she must act out to save her life from this sicko who will never quit his evil assaults. See movie, Gas Light, for another male psychopath trying to rob the woman’s assets by driving her crazy after killing her aunt, unknown to the victim.
Now, there are so called “men’s rights” groups so these men with no shame or pride can turn the tables on the victims and rob the abused, traumatized women almost destroyed by these abusers of what little gains women had made in custody battles so that men routinely play the victim with monstrous, outrageous lies that the woman/children are violent, mentally ill and others even going so far to get the stigmatized, drugged and committed, arrested to destroy and discredit them all the more. The current Emerge leader has pointed out that when abused women seek help, they are more inclined to be arrested themselves now, thereby destroying their careers/employment prospects, custody of children and lives in general!! Again, this is thanks to the cowardly, despicable abusers using the little gains women made to give themselves more sexist, misogynist perks to the huge detriment of women and children since abusers almost always get sole custody when they fight for it with ever dirty trick and tactic in the book.
Courts have been shown to aid and abet batterers as well while treating the abused women with total contempt and disrespect when she is at her most vulnerable after years of abuse and trauma, which badly affects her health, career, financial security, relationships and well being. This has been proven in studies on abused women in the courts that can be found online with “The Battered Woman’s Testimony Report” one example of many on the web.
But, the abuser takes and wins all with all his fellow abusers in power like this author pretending women abuse men as much with the same horrific results. Right! Talk about an insult to one’s intelligence! It is well known that so called studies that rely on “self report” are a joke for the most part, which is what the author of this pathetic article is citing. He is probably a member of one of those men’s groups seeking more men’s rights as if they don’t control everything and everybody already with less powerful ones all the more domineering and abusive with women to vent their rage and misplaced power ploys on them!
This bogus claim that domestic violence is almost equal between the sexes is just a justification by our abusive, misogynist, patriarchal society and the mental death profession that has always mostly preyed on women and children to justify and collude with male domination and violence should not be allowed to comment on this issue since they have done almost nothing to help or stop it except for a few isolated, dedicated people like Dr. Carole Warshaw, Psychiatrist, Dr. Judith Herman, Psychiatrist and Dr. Frank Ochberg, Psychiatrist though they have not had much impact due to the bogus medicalized paradigm of psychiatry that refuses to acknowledge any context or environmental stressors like domestic/work/school bullying, abuse, mobbing. Hard to believe, isn’t it? Per Dr. Warshaw, the mental death profession misdiagnoses abused women and children as bipolar, ADHD, delusional, paranoid and any other bogus DSM stigma now declared INVALID even by Dr. Thomas Insel, Head of the National Institute of Mental Health, which destroys their lives in the courts in custody battles, division of assets, etc. And they call this help!!!!!!!????
Another ploy of abusive men is the bogus “parental alienation” claim, which corrupt lawyers and judges use against the victims while pretending the real abuse victim is using the real claims of abuse as a strategy while aiding the abuser to turn the tables on the victim with false claims with the female victims getting harsh punishments and losses while the abuser becomes the winner who takes all with his Prince of Darkness lawyers per Lundy Bancroft, domestic violence and male batterer expert.
Anyway, just looking at how many women get greatly disfigured and killed due to male domestic violence should demonstrate that the author of this article has no conscience, honesty or decency at all whatever not to mention any knowledge of the truth. He should also check out the huge problem of police violence worse than the NFL in the latest online Atlantic Magazine who are the very ones from whom women must seek help. That’s why women are more likely to be arrested than the abuser if they call police for so called help just like the mental death profession more apt to destroy them rather than help. See Dr. Aphrodite Matsakis, author of the trauma book, I Can’t Get Over It, 2nd ed., where she laments that such domestic violence female victims get retraumatized by the horrific, dishonest, corrupt, abusive system they encounter in the courts, the so called mental health system and others, which make her life far worse
PATHETIC, VILE, DANGEROUS, EVIL, DISHONEST, MANIPULATIVE, MISINFORMATION HERE!! I would like to know the author’s relationship background! Avoid this dangerous, invalid article like the plague especially women who are usually inclined to blame themselves due to the abusers’ well plotted, evil demolition enterprise on her self esteem though she may be very successful, happy and with high esteem before getting suckered in by the abuser’s phony charm and fast track plot to quickly sweep her off her feet before she sees through him so he can get back to his abuse as usual routine. See Dr. Susan Forward’s Men Who Hate Women and the Women Who Love Them, Ann Jones’ When Love Goes Wrong, Patricia Evans’ The Verbally Abusive Relationship and Verbal Abuse Survivors Speak Out, No Visible Wounds, The Wizard of Oz and Other Narcissists, Why Is It Always About You?, Not to People Like Us: Hidden Abuse in Upscale Marriages, Dr. Keith Campbell’s When Your in Love With a Man Who Loves Himself, The Batterer and many others at Amazon as well as articles on the web

audubon crosby

This is sarcasm, right?

Guest

When did Rhymes say that “[men’s] violence against women is equal to women’s violence against men”? In the first four paragraphs alone he acknowledged that women remain the most frequent victims of domestic violence.

Rhymes pointed out an uncomfortable truth: men can be victims, too. That doesn’t imply that the violence they suffer equals the violence they perpetrate.

Are there abusive men who pretend to be victims, as you say? Certainly. There are women who also fit this description.

In the end, all victims of domestic violence deserve our compassion regardless of their gender.

DietrichB

What is very disgusting and offensive is those here and the author pretending that domestic violence happens equally or almost equally among women and men with the same consequences which is a disgusting, vile, egregious, despicable lie and fraud typical of the mental death profession and our victim blaming culture that cares more about the fate of animals than abused, often homeless women and children.
Obviously, nobody here has done their homework and the so called “men’s movement” fraud has done a good job playing the victim to avoid responsibility for their crimes, force child custody for abusive men, avoid paying child support, cry parental alienation when their abused, ignored children want to avoid them along with the abused mother and on and on!
Read the great book, Blaming the Victim, which is why we have so many bystanders when bullying and abuse reign over the world! And those who aid and abet them in other ways by joining in like the author of this disgusting article and his cheerleaders!

Eugene Jackson

it’s tragic when someone believes that their pain is the only pain that’s relevant. The writer did something that you are either unwilling or unable to do, he acknowledges the pain that women go through at the hands of men even as he discusses female-initiated violence. You on the other hand act as if women are incapable of abusive or violent. That is not only irrational, and flies in the face of the significant data on the subject, but makes caricatures of women. To be human means that we all are capable of being hurt and being hurtful.

DietrichB

Obviously, you were unable to read and understand all I wrote and expert Dr. Frank Ochberg. I realize women are in power all over the globe and running the world so that all the males are terrified of them! Oh, I forgot! It’s the other way around.
Obviously, those attracted to this grossly misleading article are supportive of male abusers and the vile psychopathic males and few females in power aiding and abetting them! And all those adult male rape and murder victims~NOT! It’s thanks to people like you and your cohorts here that domestic violence, rape and other atrocities against women and children by men go mostly unpunished and ignored.

Eugene Jackson

hyperbole much? For all your talk about advocating for the abused, on this particular page, it’s a sad irony actually, you’re the only one being abusive. And, alas, I’m done.

DietrichB

So you as a bastion of male power claim I am an abuser because I dared disagree with you????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for proving my point in that defining a woman’s reality, bullying her to submit to your self serving, erroneous opinions and then threatening the silent treatment ploy is considered verbal abuse itself. So, perhaps you have some reading to do as to what constitutes the abuse that many women suffer from males including verbal, psychological, spiritual, financial, destruction of the woman’s reputation with smear campaigns to isolate her and on and on in a total demolition enterprise. And the most dangerous time is when the woman tries to leave the abuser because that’s the time most men kill their wives and often their children! Again, check out the book Erased about all the men who killed their wives to avoid sharing divorce assets with many getting away with it though I’m glad to say many did not like psychopath Scott Peterson! Please cite all the thousands of similar cases perpetrated by women!! Yes, I forgot. You are “punishing” me with your anger, insults and silent treatment. As Hamlet would say, “The rest is silence.” And that goes for me too since I will no longer waste my time with those who spout their opinions with no knowledge of the facts or reality.

Eddy

Are you a lesbian by any chance??

DietrichB

Are you a psychopath? narcissist? abuser? I won’t lower myself by preying on gays as you have as well as abused women to put you in your proper place!

DietrichB

Are you a gay basher? A narcissist? Prejudiced red neck? Misogynist? Never mind. You answered my question already.

Themostunclean

They obviously didn’t read it. Just using the comments as a soapbox.

chris

Women are the aggressors 73% of the time according to this study, and I believe that 1000%%%%. The only reason people THINK it is the men doing the abusing, is because when a man and a women have a domestic dispute, the women usually LOSES. In my experience, it is the woman attacking the man the MAJORITY of the time, but then she cries foul when she gets KNOCKED ON HER ASS.

Donald Bolson

Listing reputable authors doesn’t validate your corrupted view. Yes men are culpable in many of the things you mentioned BUT it isn’t singular to the gender. Do some critical analysis on your theory, cause its broken bitch.

DietrichB

Thanks for exposing your true colors as a psychological and verbal abuser/batterer! “Men” like you don’t need me to expose what you are!