Half a league, half a league,Half a league onward,All in the valley of Death,Rode the six hundred.'Forward, the Light Brigade!Charge for the guns' he said:Into the valley of DeathRode the six hundred.

'Forward, the Light Brigade!'Was there a man dismay'd?Not tho' the soldiers knewSome one had blunder'd:Theirs not to make reply,Theirs not to reason why,Theirs but to do and die:Into the valley of DeathRode the six hundred.

Cannon to right of them,Cannon to left of them,Cannon in front of themVolley'd and thunder'd;Storm'd at with shot and shell,Boldly they rode and well,Into the jaws of Death,Into the mouth of HellRode the six hundred.

Flash'd all their sabres bare,Flash'd as they turned in airSabring the gunners there,Charging an army whileAll the world wonder'd:Plunged in the battery-smokeRight thro' the line they broke;Cossack and RussianReel'd from the sabre-strokeShatter'd and sunder'd.Then they rode back, but notNot the six hundred.

Cannon to right of them,Cannon to left of them,Cannon behind themVolley'd and thunder'd;Storm'd at with shot and shell,While horse and hero fell,They that had fought so wellCame thro' the jaws of Death,Back from the mouth of Hell,All that was left of them,Left of six hundred.

When can their glory fade?O the wild charge they made!All the world wonder'd.Honour the charge they made!Honour the Light Brigade,Noble six hundred!

We need to defend our agreement with them, or we will never have a country be willing to give up their nuclear arsenal for empty promises. I hate saying that because I dont want to have my country involved in war, but if we dont keep our word, we're never going to be able to negotiate in good faith again.

Yeah, real smart there, Ukraine. Instead of giving up Crimea (Mostly Russian anyway, and home to the Russian Black Sea fleet so there was no way in Hell they were going to jeopardize that), you're gonna wave your dick at Putin.

Greywar:We need to defend our agreement with them, or we will never have a country be willing to give up their nuclear arsenal for empty promises. I hate saying that because I dont want to have my country involved in war, but if we dont keep our word, we're never going to be able to negotiate in good faith again.

I don'te give a shiat if no one ever gives up their nucelar aresenal.actualy isn't it actually preferable they had a nuclear arsenal so we and they would not be in this postiion where the only wise thing to do is to tell them they are on their own?

LordJiro:Yeah, real smart there, Ukraine. Instead of giving up Crimea (Mostly Russian anyway, and home to the Russian Black Sea fleet so there was no way in Hell they were going to jeopardize that), you're gonna wave your dick at Putin.

LordJiro:Yeah, real smart there, Ukraine. Instead of giving up Crimea (Mostly Russian anyway, and home to the Russian Black Sea fleet so there was no way in Hell they were going to jeopardize that), you're gonna wave your dick at Putin.

God, I hope the rest of the world isn't dumb enough to get involved.

And yet if they don't, Russia gets the green light to do whatever the fark they want.

WW3 is going to start with preemptive cyberattacks, not nukes. So if your power, internet and cell service all go out simultaneously with no adverse weather conditions and don't come back up, that could be it.

ladyfortuna:LordJiro: Yeah, real smart there, Ukraine. Instead of giving up Crimea (Mostly Russian anyway, and home to the Russian Black Sea fleet so there was no way in Hell they were going to jeopardize that), you're gonna wave your dick at Putin.

God, I hope the rest of the world isn't dumb enough to get involved.

And yet if they don't, Russia gets the green light to do whatever the fark they want.

Like secure their major military bases during massive, violent riots? Because that's all that was happening until now.

"Patience, Highlander. You have done well. But it will take time. There are generations being born and dying. You're at one with all living things. Each man's thoughts and dreams are yours to know. You have power beyond imagination. Use it well my friend. Don't lose your head."

ladyfortuna:And yet if they don't, Russia gets the green light to do whatever the fark they want.

To some extent, we don't have the right to tell them they can't. Even in the best circumstances our military isn't in any place to do anything about it (short of nukes), unless there is also a commitment from Germany and Poland at a minimum. We've overextended our commitments, and at some point it's gonna bite us.

HotWingAgenda:Wolf892: So, in laymen speak, how close are we to WW III?

WW3 is going to start with preemptive cyberattacks, not nukes. So if your power, internet and cell service all go out simultaneously with no adverse weather conditions and don't come back up, that could be it.

I'm going to stop paying my electric, cell, and ISP bill and help get WWIII started.

With armies now being put in the field of battle, it can easily turn to shooting.

If Ukrainian forces defeat even a small contingent of Russian forces and video proof hits the airwaves, Putin may feel compelled to widen the scope of his invasion. He's not the type to lose face easily.

Right now, there are probably CIA specialists liaising with Ukrainian forces on their weaponry and supply needs. Unlike Syria's rebels, the mainline Ukrainian army would probably be trusted with western technology, including the latest anti-aircraft.

No one can stop Putin from taking eastern Ukraine. Western Ukraine is now mobilizing a few hundred thousand men. If Putin moves west, he's in for one hell of a fight.