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Yeah, the odd repaints and characters made me jump ship. Too many repaints, and too far off base from our established, beloved characters. If they stuck with some iconic, recognizable ones, I'd be more apt to keep buying them... and lining the shelves with repaints.

As is, I will keep buying a zillion of these repaints: Seeker Jets Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen Junkions

Besides those, I'm going to think HARD about buying more than a couple of the mold.

Slashercon wrote:LOGICALLY, with Smokescreen's appearance in the show and Prowl's supposed appearance in the upcoming Jagex game, you would think they would create an entirely new mold just for them. But nope, this is Hasbro and Takara, where logic is tossed out of the window.

Uh, Prowl & Smokescreen are two different models. While bearing some similarities in the shoulder pads and legs, I have doubts Smokescreen and Prowl would look good together as the same mold in this particular universe.

I wonder what TFP Bluestreak/Silverstreak would look like. A hybrid of Prowl and Smokescreen?

By "Kim Yura" & "Zimmo81"

Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.

While I'm not too bothered by Breakdown (Dr. Wu will hopefully put out a better Silas head), it's a shame about Nemesis. Maybe Has will make an accurate deco (It's an easy repaint), or maybe he'll be an exclusive of some sort.

Actually, Nemesis Prime is more of a dull maroon and black rather than the purple and black that SG OP is.

By "Kim Yura" & "Zimmo81"

Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.

While I don't love that Smokescreen is just a Knockout repaint with a new head, it actually doesn't look that bad. And given that the details such as the 38's are probably decals on the Takara version, it would make buying him and turning him into a Prowl stand-in that much simpler.....

Motto:"I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe. Oh, and I may or may not have been to Coruscant once or twice. Recently. Possibly."

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PrymeStriker wrote:

Slashercon wrote:LOGICALLY, with Smokescreen's appearance in the show and Prowl's supposed appearance in the upcoming Jagex game, you would think they would create an entirely new mold just for them. But nope, this is Hasbro and Takara, where logic is tossed out of the window.

Uh, Prowl & Smokescreen are two different models. While bearing some similarities in the shoulder pads and legs, I have doubts Smokescreen and Prowl would look good together as the same mold in this particular universe.

I wonder what TFP Bluestreak/Silverstreak would look like. A hybrid of Prowl and Smokescreen?

I would actually dispute that. They in fact look so similar that the only thing that distinguishes them are their heads and smokescreen's lighter blue instead of black

Slashercon wrote:LOGICALLY, with Smokescreen's appearance in the show and Prowl's supposed appearance in the upcoming Jagex game, you would think they would create an entirely new mold just for them. But nope, this is Hasbro and Takara, where logic is tossed out of the window.

Uh, Prowl & Smokescreen are two different models. While bearing some similarities in the shoulder pads and legs, I have doubts Smokescreen and Prowl would look good together as the same mold in this particular universe.

I wonder what TFP Bluestreak/Silverstreak would look like. A hybrid of Prowl and Smokescreen?

I would actually dispute that. They in fact look so similar that the only thing that distinguishes them are their heads and smokescreen's lighter blue instead of black

Smokescreen also has a bulkier torso, different wings, a less blockier forearm, and the wheels are located elsewhere on the leg rather than the ankle.

Also, the wings are at a different angle and Prowl has shoulder missiles, but they may be adjustable.

By "Kim Yura" & "Zimmo81"

Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.

You might actually be able to make a good-looking, show accurate Nemesis Prime if you Frankenstein parts from "AM-25 Nemesis Prime" (for the Legs, Forearm translucent plastic, and Head) and "Toys R Us Exclusive Battle Shield Optimus Prime" (For the remaining parts).

The dull reds and grays of Battle Shield OP will contrast really nicely with the bright reds and grays of the Hasbro Powerizer OP (and the molded on Micron ports will help differentiate the mold better). For added accuracy, remove the Light piping from Battle Shield and paint it/color it with a sharpie yellow,

Another bonus is that since TT uses stickers for detailing and symbols, you don't have to include the faction stickers on Nemesis' shoulders (as I'm pretty sure he didn't have any faction symbols, besides the Autobot logo on his grill).

hey, the knockout mold has not 1, but 2 ports on his back right? so what are the odds that you could stick the micron on his back and fold it out to make his ''wings?'' also, why didnt they at least remold his shoulder armor? knockouts firebender shoulders dont really remind me of smokescreen. then again, niether does that vehicle mode...

Slashercon wrote:LOGICALLY, with Smokescreen's appearance in the show and Prowl's supposed appearance in the upcoming Jagex game, you would think they would create an entirely new mold just for them. But nope, this is Hasbro and Takara, where logic is tossed out of the window.

Uh, Prowl & Smokescreen are two different models. While bearing some similarities in the shoulder pads and legs, I have doubts Smokescreen and Prowl would look good together as the same mold in this particular universe.

I wonder what TFP Bluestreak/Silverstreak would look like. A hybrid of Prowl and Smokescreen?

I would actually dispute that. They in fact look so similar that the only thing that distinguishes them are their heads and smokescreen's lighter blue instead of black

Smokescreen also has a bulkier torso, different wings, a less blockier forearm, and the wheels are located elsewhere on the leg rather than the ankle.

Also, the wings are at a different angle and Prowl has shoulder missiles, but they may be adjustable.

As said above, both look incredibly similar. FAR more similar than Smokescreen is to Knockout. And hey, at least bot Prowl and Smokes' have DOORWINGS!! (At this point, Bumblebee would have been better...or not. He is already overused mold wise, what with there being the Hot Shot figure and the shadow looking B6.)

Slashercon wrote:LOGICALLY, with Smokescreen's appearance in the show and Prowl's supposed appearance in the upcoming Jagex game, you would think they would create an entirely new mold just for them. But nope, this is Hasbro and Takara, where logic is tossed out of the window.

Uh, Prowl & Smokescreen are two different models. While bearing some similarities in the shoulder pads and legs, I have doubts Smokescreen and Prowl would look good together as the same mold in this particular universe.

I wonder what TFP Bluestreak/Silverstreak would look like. A hybrid of Prowl and Smokescreen?

I would actually dispute that. They in fact look so similar that the only thing that distinguishes them are their heads and smokescreen's lighter blue instead of black

Smokescreen also has a bulkier torso, different wings, a less blockier forearm, and the wheels are located elsewhere on the leg rather than the ankle.

Also, the wings are at a different angle and Prowl has shoulder missiles, but they may be adjustable.

As said above, both look incredibly similar. FAR more similar than Smokescreen is to Knockout. And hey, at least bot Prowl and Smokes' have DOORWINGS!! (At this point, Bumblebee would have been better...or not. He is already overused mold wise, what with there being the Hot Shot figure and the shadow looking B6.)

They probably figured Knockout's car mode bares more resemblance to Smokescreen's than Bee. And since Smokescreen "wears" his car mode's front on his chest like the majority of the TF's, it would look weird to have his chest resemble Bee's.

At least with Knockout, there are similarities.

That said, I think Smokescreen deserves at least a retool (Bumblebee mold, but retooled car front and trunk), if not his very own mold.

I wasn't to happy when I heard smokescreen was gonna be a knockout re paint but I'm actually pleased with how he looks. I mean I'd rather have a new mold but if this is all we get I'm happy with it. Also really liking salis breakdown he looks nice all black I just hope he has an eye patch.

Actually, Smokescreen's torso is more accurate to Knock Out's toy's official transformation. The legs are very similar to Knock Out period; it's just the arms and wings. If we had gotten new arms and door wings, then I wouldn't be as disappointed with this toy.

And I was pointing out their differences, not their similarities. So, this isn't exactly valid when quoting me:

Slashercon wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:Smokescreen also has a bulkier torso, different wings, a less blockier forearm, and the wheels are located elsewhere on the leg rather than the ankle.

Also, the wings are at a different angle and Prowl has shoulder missiles, but they may be adjustable.

As said above, both look incredibly similar.

By "Kim Yura" & "Zimmo81"

Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.

That Smokescreen makes me so sad I'm regretting buying Kock Out too. I knew the figure didn't do that character justice but this makes me realise just how wide of the mark they were. They really do deserve better. Come on 3rd parties. Show us what you're made of.

I'm surprised to see Silas Breakdown is just a black repaint of the standard figure. Or has it got a slightly messed up eye which I just can't see?

Slashercon wrote:LOGICALLY, with Smokescreen's appearance in the show and Prowl's supposed appearance in the upcoming Jagex game, you would think they would create an entirely new mold just for them. But nope, this is Hasbro and Takara, where logic is tossed out of the window.

The whole thing said - Where is the logic behind the thought of mixing Hasbro with something that is solely Takara Tomy's line? The Arms Micron toyline is primarily sold in each and every Toys"R"Us in Japan. Meaning that anything tied to Hasbro, namely the Jagex game and Beast Hunters have nothing to do with this. Because when it comes to logic, TOMY decided to make something that was not expensive and that kids within a certain age group will enjoy. Namely young, Japanese boys. Beyond that, they just get the added benefit of having their line enjoyed by collectors who are willing to buy what they like.

So for me... Looking at this figure has made me decide that "Arms Micron" Wildrider will be my last for now, when it comes to Prime. Oh... And I am mildly disappointed that they did not go with a pinkish chrome for "Lucky Draw" Arcee. It looks good, but in the theme of show-accuracy, the white/silver chrome should be a shade of pink. Just sayin'.

Wow! I'm very glad I sprang for the Silas Breakdown! He is different enough to fully justify getting this version and the AM-12 Breakdown. Having Silas inside his chest explains the different grill mold. Overall, I'm very excited to get him.

Smokescreen still doesn't impress me. His head mold looks like Knockout's shape with just a different face. This remold/retool/whatever is NOT different enough to justify the price of importing him...at least to me. I'll pass on him.

Rhinox23 wrote:Can anyone tell if Silas Breakdown has an eye patch? I can't see one, but the picture is too small. Either way, I've preordered him and am very excited to get him!

Smokescreen on the other hand... This remold simply does not work for him. While his vehicle mold looks pretty good (and so does his head mold), I really can't stand his robot mode. If Hasbro doesn't release a new mold version of him then I guess I just won't have a Smokescreen in my TFP collection.

I was trying to collect every show character (and a few others because TFP Rumble seems awesome) but I gave up on that after seeing how crappy Airachnid is. Oh well, I can still get all of the good show characters!

There is no eye patch and there isn't supossed to be one. It's more of a hole with a more earth looking robotic eye.