DanL wrote on Jan 15, 2010, 10:01:Been playing MW2 since launch, and really the reports of hackers are way out of proportion. Its not any worse than any game released since the days of quake. I look forward to BFBC2, mainly because my buddies are BF fans, but I always preferred the CoD series over BF. Something about the movement or combat or weapons that makes the BF series feel clumsy to me. I dunno. Anyway, people just hate MW2 because they need something to hate... No dedicated servers is not an issue, IWnet has been working great for me.

I still really like the game, but like I said, I seem to run across someone using a noticeable hack once a night or so (that's an average; some nights it's 0, some nights it's 2). That's more than I've hit in any other game. It's not hard to just quit the server and join another, though, and it doesn't wreck my enjoyment of the game. I've also been accused of hacking a couple of times, which is just beyond fun.

Sepharo wrote on Jan 14, 2010, 22:37:No mods and no privately owned server?

Okay we just dropped from a strong B+ to a D here.

I wish I could have some how gone longer not reading that.

I could care less about privately owned servers and mods. Just as long as the core game mechanics are good and I can return to a favorite clan or administrated server, I'm happy. Still an A+ as an anticipation grade for me.

Been playing MW2 since launch, and really the reports of hackers are way out of proportion. Its not any worse than any game released since the days of quake. I look forward to BFBC2, mainly because my buddies are BF fans, but I always preferred the CoD series over BF. Something about the movement or combat or weapons that makes the BF series feel clumsy to me. I dunno. Anyway, people just hate MW2 because they need something to hate... No dedicated servers is not an issue, IWnet has been working great for me.

I was ridiculed recently on Blues when I said this game was gonna be consolised, now look at it now haha! a PC FPS without a console, yea that'll be due to hacking of course it will, it isn't like it is consolisation or anything

Let's see...not moddable game, no publicically available dedicated server files...no console which on pc nowdays is a must.... lol looks like battlefield days of being a good true pc fps are over. shame, oh well another one bites the dust.

SBlat wrote on Jan 14, 2010, 19:34:Isn't this like saying you won't have config files and so the game won't be able to be hacked?

"the game won't be possible to hack in this regard"

It's a tautology: He's saying that by having no console, it will be impossible to hack the game via the console. Tough to argue with, but it doesn't mean the the game will be unhackable.

Opps, yes. What I actually meant to get at is: is a console really any more hackable than having a config file is anyway? If they've really had online cheating occurring due to changed config variables... whether through the console or not, maybe they shouldn't allow those variables to be configured in the first place?

They owe their beginnings to PC gamers in Call of Duty and Battlefield series and now they just fuck us. Fuck them.

Ditto. I can't believe how many of these huge companies started these franchises as pc experiments that allowed them to make the games they make today, and in return they fuck us, and start taking things away. Anyone play bf heroes? I spent hours trying to get into the beta, then to play for less than half an hour and decide. Fuck DICE.

You spent HOURS trying to get into the BF Heroes beta. Lol. You couldn't pay me to waste a minute on that POS.

They owe their beginnings to PC gamers in Call of Duty and Battlefield series and now they just fuck us. Fuck them.

Ditto. I can't believe how many of these huge companies started these franchises as pc experiments that allowed them to make the games they make today, and in return they fuck us, and start taking things away. Anyone play bf heroes? I spent hours trying to get into the beta, then to play for less than half an hour and decide. Fuck DICE.

Don't forget that there will be no publicly released dedicated servers and that there won't be any released mod tools for bad company 2 as well:

"Mod Tools: There will not be mod tools for BFBC2. However a majority of the the games logic is controlled by the server and there will be Serverside control options for the dedicated servers.

Public Server Files: We will not distribute these publicly. There are many factors for why we have decided this with the biggest factor being security & integrity of our game & Dedicated Servers."From http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/Default.aspx##

It's sounding more and more like a PC game every announcement. Fuck Infinity Ward and fuck DICE. They owe their beginnings to PC gamers in Call of Duty and Battlefield series and now they just fuck us. Fuck them.