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I also just love to watch Jason and Molly at their 1st ATFR when he asked her to give him a chance ! That sends chills on my spine because he was so broken and unsure and she was still in love with him.

For me and knowing that they were able to make a go of it despite everything is one of the most beautiful scenes this series has ever generated.

Re: General Bachelor chat - spoiler forum

Originally Posted by ADHDR

I’m more of a lurker around these parts, but figured I’d give this a one-time shot. Sorry if this post is the wrong forum/thread!

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Enter Cori. She and Ricky (if they were even a couple- ha!) were supposed to marry in September 2003, per the “save the date” card seen in InTouch. (Speculation: Did Ricky’s meeting Emily cause their train to derail? Maybe, but we’ll never know.)

That save the date card... LOL Who saves those for this long?

Anyway a very well thought out and researched post... I agree about the Hendricks thinking of Ricki as a gift. They lost so much..

Re: General Bachelor chat - spoiler forum

Originally Posted by nd4reality

I also just love to watch Jason and Molly at their 1st ATFR when he asked her to give him a chance ! That sends chills on my spine because he was so broken and unsure and she was still in love with him.

For me and knowing that they were able to make a go of it despite everything is one of the most beautiful scenes this series has ever generated.

Oh so true. Jason's such a weenie but I thought them getting back together in the face of all the "adversity" was really beautiful to watch and took a lot of courage on both their parts.

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I’m more of a lurker around these parts, but figured I’d give this a one-time shot. Sorry if this post is the wrong forum/thread!

Edit- since I'm new I can't post URL's. If someone would like to post the URL's for me, send me a PM- I'd appreciate it!

The hearsay about Emily-Ricky-Cori has bothered me, so I’ll throw in my $0.42.

Emily was born Feb 1986, and presumably graduated high school in or around May 2004. There are several sources online (whether or not they’re accurate, I couldn’t tell you) that say things to the effect of, “Emily moved to Charlotte after she graduated,” or, “Emily moved to Charlotte six months before Ricky died.” Either of those statements would be consistent with her age, presumed graduation date, and Ricky’s death date.

There’s a lot of speculation as to when Emily and Ricky met: I’ve heard 1999, 2001, 2003, etc. Don’t know what’s true. Public records for Florida show that Emily’s parents bought their house in early-mid 2003, and Ricky’s parents built their vacation home in 2003. Logic would presume that would’ve been when they met. Emily would’ve been 17 then (and Ricky 22-23).

Enter Cori. She and Ricky (if they were even a couple- ha!) were supposed to marry in September 2003, per the “save the date” card seen in InTouch. (Speculation: Did Ricky’s meeting Emily cause their train to derail? Maybe, but we’ll never know.)

Backtracking. With the assumption that Cori and Ricky were indeed a couple at one point, I ask the question: how long were they actually together? Here’s a fun little ditty from nascar.com: (URL #1 removed since I'm a n00b) (Don’t know if the interview took place on the EXACT date the article was published, but I would think it was done not too long beforehand). So here we can establish that Ricky had NO girlfriend in or around June 2002.

Certainly the timing of Ricky’s engagement to Cori (after not having a girlfriend just one year prior) would be consistent with a mid-2004 engagement to Emily (after meeting her -presumably- around mid 2003).

Ricky’s obituary (published in Charlotte Observer on Oct 27, 2004): (URL #2 removed since I'm a n00b) lists Emily as his “girlfriend”. In the guest book, there are a handful of comments that refer to her as his “girlfriend” as well as his “fiancee”.
- page 58 (Oct 29, 2004): “girlfriend”
- page 183 (Oct 26, 2004): “girlfriend” (reference mentioned “a few months ago”)
- page 283 (Oct 25, 2004): “fiancee”
- Other nonspecific (i.e., no “girlfriend” or “fiancee” label) references to Emily: page 95 (Oct 27, 2004) and page 14 (Nov 11, 2004)- this one appears to be from a long-time friend of Emily (lived in WV)

Here’s a website that lists obituaries (it appears they were copied and pasted from somewhere else) for many of the people on the plane. Ricky’s says, “He was recently engaged to be married.” There is no date as far as when this was published.(URL #3 removed since I'm a n00b)

...HOWEVER, this message forum also has the EXACT same list of obituaries copied onto their forum (see post #5). It was posted on Oct 25, 2004.(URL #4 removed since I'm a n00b)

We know that Emily found out and broke the news that she was pregnant “five days later” and “the day after the memorial service”. That would be Oct 29, 2004. If Ricky’s family wanted to alter history (i.e., if Emily and Ricky were never engaged), then I don’t understand why there are sources printed EARLIER than this date that say they were engaged. Much less the fact that there is a picture of Ricky with Emily, wearing what appears to be an engagement ring.

The original article is no longer available, but Ricky’s mom was interviewed by the Charlotte Observer and the following was published on Nov 8, 2004. She mentions “fiancee”.(URL #6 removed since I'm a n00b) (scroll about 3/4 the way down the page... or search for “Hendrick mom has faith, no regrets”). Ricky, Emily, and his mom had arrived back in Charlotte from their trip to Hawaii on Oct 23, 2004, the day before his plane crashed.

Were they engaged? I’d like to think so.
Did Cori exist? Don’t know, don’t care. If she did, it would appear that Emily became the love of his life once he met her.

Other thoughts: There’s been a lot of ragging on Emily as far as her job situation (whether or not she has a job), and how she supports her daughter. Many say she lives off the Hendrick family. I’ve also read many references (albeit not half as many) that say Emily’s family is wealthy. This is correct. Their home in Florida was a multi-million dollar house in a prime real estate location. It wasn’t NEXT DOOR to the Hendricks’ multi-million dollar vacation home, but it was nearby.

I have no idea if she has a job or not. Do I care? Not particularly. It’s possible that Rick Hendrick told her, “We will support you and Ricki, and we’d like for her to be brought up with the best environment possible,” with that inferring they don’t WANT her to work, that they would rather her spend time that she would be working at home with her daughter. Again, like so much of Emily’s situation, this is speculation on my part.

Another thing that I think we forget is that Emily gave the Hendricks the BEST gift possible, short of bringing their son back, at the worst time in their lives. For anyone who has lost someone, what would you pay to have a gift of their spirit living on? It’s priceless, although wealthy people tend to show gratitude through money. For Ricki to have the same upbringing that would be provided had Ricky been around, I would imagine the Hendricks are MORE than happy to provide for her and Emily. Should this matter to us? No.

Again, sorry if this was the wrong thread. It seemed like the best option!

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I’m more of a lurker around these parts, but figured I’d give this a one-time shot. Sorry if this post is the wrong forum/thread!

Edit- since I'm new I can't post URL's. If someone would like to post the URL's for me, send me a PM- I'd appreciate it!

The hearsay about Emily-Ricky-Cori has bothered me, so I’ll throw in my $0.42.

Emily was born Feb 1986, and presumably graduated high school in or around May 2004. There are several sources online (whether or not they’re accurate, I couldn’t tell you) that say things to the effect of, “Emily moved to Charlotte after she graduated,” or, “Emily moved to Charlotte six months before Ricky died.” Either of those statements would be consistent with her age, presumed graduation date, and Ricky’s death date.

There’s a lot of speculation as to when Emily and Ricky met: I’ve heard 1999, 2001, 2003, etc. Don’t know what’s true. Public records for Florida show that Emily’s parents bought their house in early-mid 2003, and Ricky’s parents built their vacation home in 2003. Logic would presume that would’ve been when they met. Emily would’ve been 17 then (and Ricky 22-23).

Enter Cori. She and Ricky (if they were even a couple- ha!) were supposed to marry in September 2003, per the “save the date” card seen in InTouch. (Speculation: Did Ricky’s meeting Emily cause their train to derail? Maybe, but we’ll never know.)

Backtracking. With the assumption that Cori and Ricky were indeed a couple at one point, I ask the question: how long were they actually together? Here’s a fun little ditty from nascar.com: (URL #1 removed since I'm a n00b) (Don’t know if the interview took place on the EXACT date the article was published, but I would think it was done not too long beforehand). So here we can establish that Ricky had NO girlfriend in or around June 2002.

Certainly the timing of Ricky’s engagement to Cori (after not having a girlfriend just one year prior) would be consistent with a mid-2004 engagement to Emily (after meeting her -presumably- around mid 2003).

Ricky’s obituary (published in Charlotte Observer on Oct 27, 2004): (URL #2 removed since I'm a n00b) lists Emily as his “girlfriend”. In the guest book, there are a handful of comments that refer to her as his “girlfriend” as well as his “fiancee”.
- page 58 (Oct 29, 2004): “girlfriend”
- page 183 (Oct 26, 2004): “girlfriend” (reference mentioned “a few months ago”)
- page 283 (Oct 25, 2004): “fiancee”
- Other nonspecific (i.e., no “girlfriend” or “fiancee” label) references to Emily: page 95 (Oct 27, 2004) and page 14 (Nov 11, 2004)- this one appears to be from a long-time friend of Emily (lived in WV)

Here’s a website that lists obituaries (it appears they were copied and pasted from somewhere else) for many of the people on the plane. Ricky’s says, “He was recently engaged to be married.” There is no date as far as when this was published.(URL #3 removed since I'm a n00b)

...HOWEVER, this message forum also has the EXACT same list of obituaries copied onto their forum (see post #5). It was posted on Oct 25, 2004.(URL #4 removed since I'm a n00b)

We know that Emily found out and broke the news that she was pregnant “five days later” and “the day after the memorial service”. That would be Oct 29, 2004. If Ricky’s family wanted to alter history (i.e., if Emily and Ricky were never engaged), then I don’t understand why there are sources printed EARLIER than this date that say they were engaged. Much less the fact that there is a picture of Ricky with Emily, wearing what appears to be an engagement ring.

The original article is no longer available, but Ricky’s mom was interviewed by the Charlotte Observer and the following was published on Nov 8, 2004. She mentions “fiancee”.(URL #6 removed since I'm a n00b) (scroll about 3/4 the way down the page... or search for “Hendrick mom has faith, no regrets”). Ricky, Emily, and his mom had arrived back in Charlotte from their trip to Hawaii on Oct 23, 2004, the day before his plane crashed.

Were they engaged? I’d like to think so.
Did Cori exist? Don’t know, don’t care. If she did, it would appear that Emily became the love of his life once he met her.

Other thoughts: There’s been a lot of ragging on Emily as far as her job situation (whether or not she has a job), and how she supports her daughter. Many say she lives off the Hendrick family. I’ve also read many references (albeit not half as many) that say Emily’s family is wealthy. This is correct. Their home in Florida was a multi-million dollar house in a prime real estate location. It wasn’t NEXT DOOR to the Hendricks’ multi-million dollar vacation home, but it was nearby.

I have no idea if she has a job or not. Do I care? Not particularly. It’s possible that Rick Hendrick told her, “We will support you and Ricki, and we’d like for her to be brought up with the best environment possible,” with that inferring they don’t WANT her to work, that they would rather her spend time that she would be working at home with her daughter. Again, like so much of Emily’s situation, this is speculation on my part.

Another thing that I think we forget is that Emily gave the Hendricks the BEST gift possible, short of bringing their son back, at the worst time in their lives. For anyone who has lost someone, what would you pay to have a gift of their spirit living on? It’s priceless, although wealthy people tend to show gratitude through money. For Ricki to have the same upbringing that would be provided had Ricky been around, I would imagine the Hendricks are MORE than happy to provide for her and Emily. Should this matter to us? No.

Again, sorry if this was the wrong thread. It seemed like the best option!

Thanks for taking the time to do all this! Well done and . Stay with us a while!

Re: General Bachelor chat - spoiler forum

Originally Posted by nd4reality

I also just love to watch Jason and Molly at their 1st ATFR when he asked her to give him a chance ! That sends chills on my spine because he was so broken and unsure and she was still in love with him.

For me and knowing that they were able to make a go of it despite everything is one of the most beautiful scenes this series has ever generated.

Me too! I love Molly and you could see that she was still so in love with Jason but hesitant to jump right back in with him.

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