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I just think it's stupid how they cover horse racing and poker, but they can't cover surfing. Sportscenter is on for 12 hours out of the day, I'm sure they could squeeze in some surfing stuff in there.

I just think it's stupid how they cover horse racing and poker, but they can't cover surfing. Sportscenter is on for 12 hours out of the day, I'm sure they could squeeze in some surfing stuff in there.

all sports have their shredders. and zach, no offense, but big bear is basically like surfing in va beach in the summer. anyone CAN do it. but to say mountains don't change? you clearly haven't spent any time in the backcountry or even in-bounds after a huge dump at a place like jackson or telluride or taos. it's just different. some guys can rip on a wave and some guys can rip in the snow. some lucky guys can do both...

Wow, I have never heard anyone diss big bear. Have you ever been? Big Bear is better than any mountain I have ever seen back home. If you want to go up past the Canadian border into Vermont and Maine, than maybe...

But dude, if you say the snowboard park at Big Bear is like Va Beach, then you must be a world travelling snowboarding expert... Ask Shaun White about Big Bear.... That is his home mountain bro. Im not mr. snowboard, but big bear is legit for sure. 10K+, Tons of snow... Riding in a Tee-Shirt...

My buddy is sitting next to me right now. He was a pro snowboarder. Sponsored by SunDiego for like 5 years. He owns sh** when we go to big bear. He read this post and he is laughing his as$ off right now...

He is the one feeding me with all this stuff about how the mountain doesnt move. And this guy is an actual pro. He says surfing is the hardest thing he has ever done.... This guy does insane aerial tricks that are death defying... He has surfed his whole life, and isnt even close to a pro level in surfing.

Now, you want to see something that is Hard? Something on a mountain that is harder than surfing.... Check this out...

But short of that, I think you are 250% off... If you have a problem with Bear and Summits snowboard parks, your nuts. I cant think of a better PARK in the USA.... Yeah, there isnt tons of backcountry snowboarding, but thats not why we go up there. We go up there for the snowboard park...

And yeah, backcountry snow leaves sketchy holes and different obsticles, but to say that the snow or runs move is wrong... Its just doesnt. YOu see whats ahead of you, and its all stationary....

Wow, I have never heard anyone diss big bear. Have you ever been? Big Bear is better than any mountain I have ever seen back home. If you want to go up past the Canadian border into Vermont and Maine, than maybe...

But dude, if you say the snowboard park at Big Bear is like Va Beach, then you must be a world travelling snowboarding expert... Ask Shaun White about Big Bear.... That is his home mountain bro. Im not mr. snowboard, but big bear is legit for sure. 10K+, Tons of snow... Riding in a Tee-Shirt...

My buddy is sitting next to me right now. He was a pro snowboarder. Sponsored by SunDiego for like 5 years. He owns sh** when we go to big bear. He read this post and he is laughing his as$ off right now...

He is the one feeding me with all this stuff about how the mountain doesnt move. And this guy is an actual pro. He says surfing is the hardest thing he has ever done.... This guy does insane aerial tricks that are death defying... He has surfed his whole life, and isnt even close to a pro level in surfing.

Now, you want to see something that is Hard? Something on a mountain that is harder than surfing.... Check this out...

But short of that, I think you are 250% off... If you have a problem with Bear and Summits snowboard parks, your nuts. I cant think of a better PARK in the USA.... Yeah, there isnt tons of backcountry snowboarding, but thats not why we go up there. We go up there for the snowboard park...

And yeah, backcountry snow leaves sketchy holes and different obsticles, but to say that the snow or runs move is wrong... Its just doesnt. YOu see whats ahead of you, and its all stationary....

um. did i mention a snowboard park? i'm talking about ripping up the steeps and big bear ain't got 'em. (and yes, i've been. i used to live in wrightwood so i'm familiar with the mountains in so. california). a lot of snowboarders never leave the park (sounds like you might be one of 'em) and i'm not interested in a pissing contest about which sport is harder. i'm just saying there are people out there taking ridiculously hard lines down mountains (with deep snow that moves) but it doesn't sound like you're interested in those types of folks...

um. did i mention a snowboard park? i'm talking about ripping up the steeps and big bear ain't got 'em. (and yes, i've been. i used to live in wrightwood so i'm familiar with the mountains in so. california). a lot of snowboarders never leave the park (sounds like you might be one of 'em) and i'm not interested in a pissing contest about which sport is harder. i'm just saying there are people out there taking ridiculously hard lines down mountains (with deep snow that moves) but it doesn't sound like you're interested in those types of folks...

Im not trying to argue either. We just simply dissargree. Nothing wrong with that. And I have Fuel TV, which is NOTHING but freaking backcountry snowboarding and those guys taking those "insane" lines... But again, THOSE guys to me are like the big wave surfers... There is a lot more "balls" and nerves involved in stuff like that...

Point being, If kelly slater would take up big wave surfing, he would change the sport. He would win every contest... He is just plain more talented than everyone else, so he could be doing insane moves and pushing the limits the way people never have... These days, big wave surfing is about a huge drop, and survival... which reminds of of what you are speaking of with regards to big lines in snowboarding... Yes, you must be a SICK snowboarder to pull that stuff off, but more than that, you need balls...

Surfing isnt about balls all the time. Its about skill, precision, atheleticism and talent... Same goes for snowboarding... But what impresses me in snowboarding is what goes on in those half pipes and stuff like that. That crazy deep snow giant drops is cool, but half the tossed footage in those snowboard videos are guys just freefalling and having a garage sale when they land and explode into 10 ft. deep snow... Looks cool, but half the stuff they dont land, and snow is pretty forgiving for the most part...

Just my opinions. I am a weekend snowboarder. I have never taken it seriously. I usually change the channel when watching Fuel, cause snowboarders in videos are usually tools. They make jokes that arent funny. They talk like surfers with the "DUDE"... and all that. And if I hear one more DUDE say "HELI" when referring to a helicopter, I will scream...

Its just not that impressive to me, thats all im saying... and the characters within the snowboard world are just plani dorky. Im sorry. They are goobers (mostly).