13 Reasons to Fear the COVID World OrderThe world’s reaction to COVID-19 is already providing very strong hints of what our dystopian future will probably look like.

Andrew Korybko

COVID-19 has fundamentally changed life as we know it, and it’s more than likely that our future will be a dystopian one given how various governments have already responded to this viral outbreak.

The skeptics among us are fearful that this whole pandemic is overblown and being exploited as a smokescreen for stealing our freedoms, and while their attitude towards this disease is questionable (and quite possibly dangerous), their suspicion about a government takeover of society is warranted.

Never before have governments had so much power over the people, though in these emergency conditions, that might not be an entirely bad thing for the time being seeing as how it could very well be necessary for our survival.

The problem, however, is that these newly assumed powers probably won’t be voluntarily surrendered after this epidemic ends, which is why many people are so concerned. They’re convinced that we’ve suddenly entered a period of global dictatorship, and it’s difficult to argue with them.

So much else is also changing as well, and it’s hard to keep up with the “COVID World Order” that’s been thrust upon us, but what follows is an attempt to briefly describe everything that’s already taken place and predict what will probably follow:

1. De-Facto Martial Law…

There’s no other way to describe both the “recommended” and mandatory quarantines that many in the world are experiencing than to call them what they are, a state of de-facto martial law, which isn’t being formally declared in order to not provoke any more panic than there already is.

2. …Is The “New Normal”

Now that de-facto martial law of a seemingly indefinite period has been accepted by the people (whether willingly or begrudgingly), it’ll probably become the “new normal” and be implemented countless times in the future, be it as an “overabundance of caution” in the event of another outbreak or under any other pretext.

3. Social Media Censorship Will Intensify

“Big Brother” is already here, but he’s going to become a bigger bully than ever before by intensifying his censorship of people’s social media posts on the basis that they’re “socially irresponsible” (e.g. questioning the seriousness of this disease), after which the “politically incorrect” net will widen to encompass other topics too.

4. Travel Will Never Be The Same Again

Domestic and international travel will never be the same again, with internal restrictions on movement likely becoming commonplace and most foreign guests being required to self-quarantine for a period of time except in special circumstances, thus all but killing the global tourism industry.

5. Border Control Will Become More Robust

Gone are the days of so-called “open borders” where anyone can freely move between jurisdictions at will (whether legally or otherwise), with more stringent controls being put into place to protect the local population from outsiders (including their own compatriots from elsewhere in the country).

6. Mandatory Vaccines Are Coming

For whatever one thinks about vaccines, there’s probably no way to stop them from becoming mandatory after the COVID-19 pandemic, with it being predicted that people will have to prove that they’ve been vaccinated in order to do anything at all such as study, work, travel, and receive government benefits.

7. Remote Learning & Working Will Increase

With so many people stuck at home and unable to leave except to purchase essential goods in most cases, it’s predictable that remote learning and working (the latter which will of course be for those whose jobs allow them to do so) will pick up in the coming future as society gets used to this way of doing things.

8. 5G Is Inevitable

The massive surge of online traffic from folks who are learning, working, or simply entertaining themselves online will necessitate the rapid roll-out of 5G technology despite what some people suspect are its serious health concerns.

9. Society Depends On Just A Few Jobs To Function

The “new normal” of de-facto martial law has made many people realize that society really just depends on a few jobs in order to continue functioning at the bare minimum, with these being techies, grocery store and pharmacy employees, bank clerks, healthcare professionals, food service workers, farmers, and truckers.

10. Nationalization Might Be Imminent

For better or for worse, governments across the world might go on a nationalization spree in order to take control of what they regard as “essential industries” (though whether some of them truly are or not is another story), which could lead to the informal imposition of either socialist or fascist economic models.

11. “Universal Basic Income”

Given the scale and scope of the global economic collapse that was catalyzed by the world’s uncoordinated response to COVID-19, it’s foreseeable that governments will unveil what’s been described as a “universal basic income” in order to ensure that their people can continue to at least purchase basic goods and services.

12. Mandatory Medical Training In Exchange For Government Benefits

Medical training is arguably more important than military service nowadays, so the state will probably make it mandatory in schools from here on out and for anyone who wants to receive government benefits, thereby enabling the government to draft them in the future whenever there’s a dearth of healthcare professionals.

13. Say Goodbye To Cash

The cashless society is coming, whether justified by the (real, false, or exaggerated) fear that lethal viruses can be spread by paper currency or as the government’s preferred method of dispersing its “universal basic income”, meaning that the authorities can cut folks off from their funds at any time that they want to.

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There’s no guarantee that everything that was described above will come to pass, but there’s certainly a high likelihood that at least some of it will transpire with time, though it’ll remain to be seen how sustainable these socio-economic and political changes are and whether or not they can ever be reversed.

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Joseph Magil

Apr 1, 2020 2:52 AM

I predict that if a universal basic income is implemented, it will come with many strings attached, reducing those who need it to the status of slaves or even livestock. It will be utterly unlike the Social Credit system propounded by Major C. H. Douglas a century ago.

I would add one more item: We may probably see individual hacker ‘terrorists’ revolting against the system . One day you may see a different kind of virus attack. It will paralyse the whole banking system. Your online banking, POS sales, ATMs etc won’t work for a week. What follows then is left to your imagination. A total social unrest after day 2.

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Robbobbobin

Mar 29, 2020 6:28 AM

You, personally-by-proxy, wanted aeroplanes to fly into the Galápagos for your exotic summer vacation, you got Seymour and San Cristóbal airports to enable just that. Now tell me you, personally-by-proxy, didn’t strongarm Ecuador into allowing it. The end of history occurred just before before WW2 and was still in effect the day you booked your travel, perhaps?

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Michael McNulty

Mar 28, 2020 7:41 PM

I wonder how many people who went into this lockdown proud to belittle conspiracy theories will soon be conspiracy theorists themselves? The government can’t take away bread and mind-numbing TV circuses and not have people delve inside their own minds and start some real deep thinking. Many used to be so busy the only thinking they could do was when they climbed in bed then soon fell asleep. That’ll change!

“I wonder how many people who went into this lockdown proud to belittle conspiracy theories will soon be conspiracy theorists themselves?”

Not, I daresay, any of the several lapdogs who yesterday yapped at me for being too old –obviously 80+–to get in some cycling pleasure and exercise (especially not the one who ran out onto the road to do it).

I believe most will only become more passionate in their belief in the truthfulness of the mainstream media and the rightness of every government policy. Every few years, fundamentalist Christians sit on their rooftops awaiting the rapture, which is almost 2,000 years late by my reckoning. Self-delusion is a faculty humans will never lose. I predict that conspiracy theorists like myself will become increasingly despised and looked down upon as pathetically deluded at best or evil disrupters of society at worst. The people will not come after the oligarchs or the government with their pitchforks, they will come after us.

Think this cld be an accidentally released bioweapon, by the US, can’t remember the name of the lab which was shut down for leakages late last year. Might just be a naturally occurring virus too tho, it’s far from lethal even to more at risk older ppl, the fear porn is the real danger.

Biggest danger of all tho is to people’s mental health, the propaganda is pure evil designed to cause ppl so much fear, they will agree to the most vile, freedom denying *protection* for what they think is safety.

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Brian

Mar 28, 2020 8:51 AM

Essential jobs? You haven’t mentioned oil and gas production, oil refining and/or the wider energy sector? This must have been written by someone who doesn’t understand what drives everything around them. Another example of a pointless doom-mongering, incomplete mess of an arrival. The internet and social media gives a voice to people who are not qualified and proper journalists, any fool can’t write something and get it “published” now.

There was no claim that the list was exhaustive. Apparently in your mind a “qualified and proper” journalist is one who drives a car.

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falcemartello

Mar 28, 2020 2:36 AM

Welcome to Orwells Brave New World. Next chapter will Be Orwells Animal Farm.
FASCISMO 101 has become the mew normal. . This my fellow bloggers is classified as a coup d’etat and the sheeple have accepted it .
SAD BUT TRUE.

Aldoux Huxley Brave New World. Orwell wrote 1984, Animal Farm. But H. G Wells wrote New World Order.

Orwell wasn’t a Fabian. The other two were .

Fabian Society is behind this virus.
Commufascist takeover using Eugenics.

Ready for their beast empire new world order.

Suit up ppl.

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Ken

Mar 28, 2020 2:09 AM

What an excellent way to further divide and conquer us. I guess 9/11 and it’s fruits have grown a bit stale after nearly 19 years now. The new terror threat is biological and your new enemy is the person getting too close to you, doing an uncovered cough across the street, or your unvaccinated neighbor. I truly am worried about the kind of world my little boy faces. It’s also a lonely feeling being mostly surrounded by willfully ignorant sleepwalkers in my daily life who appear to be quite willingly accepting of their increasing oppression, with no questions asked. Thank you all for being here.

Ken, thank you also for being here to add to the online community that is keeping us all sane. You know, the new terror is, as you say, quite probably biological. I think back to the Skripals which was described as ‘Chemical’ bio warfare. This mass hysteria was also created around the Skripal saga but, the Government’s story was such BS the stench could not be abided by even The Sun readers in the end – until nobody believed the story anymore – and hey presto, right on cue, another load of Government BS re the Almnsurbury cases. The Skripals are clearly, unfortunately and innocently dead having been disappeared probably by Mossad, MI5 and the CIA. Now we have this virus which broke in a region of China which has a WHO specialist bio research lab just a mile away. Just saying……

When I joined the Army in 1990 we were trained in NBC tactics. Nuclear Biological Chemical warfare. Biological weapons have been around for many years so nothing really new, its just the main streaming of them. We have our very own institution in the UK for this stuff… Porton Down.
Nuclear is dying (except for N Korea and Iran) Chemical warfare is age old… Mustard Gas in WW1 and probably other things earlier. Biological is the new SCARY stuff… it’s working just look at the zombie apocalypse happening on every sofe throughout the UK… people are shit scared.

It is running rather slowly these days, but completely f….., it is not.

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Gall

Mar 27, 2020 11:17 PM

The elephant in the room perched on the sofa is the compelling evidence that this virus is a bioweapon but even if it wasn’t it is obvious that the Anglo/American/Zionist Empire is using or attempting to exploit this pandemic to its Geopolitical advantage first pulling a “ham sandwich”and indicting Maduro on trumped up “narcotics” charges based on no evidence whatsoever. Talk about the pot accusing the kettle! I guess the hypocrites forgot about the Opium Wars and turning Afghanistan into a big H pipeline not to mention the explosion of opiate deaths cause by Big Pharma.

I mean the Drug Cartels in Central and South America ain’t got nothing like Purdue Pharmaceuticals who have been pushing their poison onto millions of Americans as “safe and effective” according to the stalwart FDA.

Also US Forces had planned a preemptive attack in Iraq while they were trying to handle a pandemic and before that the current creature from Foggy Bottom wanted to bomb Iran again while they were in pandemic panic mode. I mean the definition of evil needs to be expanded to include these reprehensible deranged psychotic assholes.

It is not generally known that Bacillus anthracis has a very high IQ and, consequently, has been recruited into ASIS, via ectoplasmic communications with William of Ockham, as Controlled Opposition. William has been asked to bring along his razor to cut the throat of anyone who disagrees with his appointment.

Incidentally, do you moonlight as one of those bots that repeatedly insert the victim’s name into personal directed advertising?

This virus is a whole can of worms as a psychological weapon regardless whether it is in fact definitively isolated and proven to be the cause of symptoms or not. (Viruses get a bad press).

Bioweapons. Like Rappoport receently, I have no doubt there are concerted efforts make them, but fail. What doesn’t fail are toxic exposures and along with your examples are many others that operate a negative synergy.

Medical treatments are the 3rd leading cause of death in UK/US and likely in other developed countries. The real position is probably first. Lockdown the medical monopoly? Not likely!
Of course we all die anyway and our medical god is our current expression of War on Death – which like all such ‘wars’ does the thing it claims to defend.

If expert toxicologists were brought in instead of virologists, I believe we would not only address the needs directly instead of compounding with other toxic treatments, but bring the underlying causes to pubic accountability.

The fear of contagion is too powerful a leverage to allow to be brought to light or in banking terms, too big to fail. Belief in fear is so powerful that it can shut the world down and turn your brother into a people-killer for walking in non essential parks or beaches.

Reasons to fear anything are looking at it all backwards.
Reasons to trust your life
1. It is who you truly are.
2. That’s the only way to live it.
3. Why not?

Fear is an addiction.
A form of possession (or really a dispossession or dissociation)
Is there another way of looking at everything?

BTW I don’t see medical training coming but robots to replace doctors – at least for the masses. Blood tests, biometrics, profile in – pharma out.

Binra, yep, fear has dominated the USA psyche for centuries – be it global, internal, external etc. Read Noam Chomskey on the Republican Party – being the ‘most evil people in america and probably earth” (something like that anyway). They keep the USA scared scared scared and keep winning elections as a result of it. Interesting Fact: Steve Bannon (yep that well known Fascist extreme right wing founder of Cambridge Analytica) and also Trump’s campaign manager and advisor – ran the campaign for the Tory Party in the last election – look at Republican dirty tricks in election – they were all evident here. I believe, but I might well be wrong, that Bannon now runs Breitbart?

Gall, yes strange about Maduro since USA failed to win the ‘coup’. The reality is the USA made those indictments against him to block a massive UN aid package to Venezuela and Iran. They did the same to Saddam Hussein, General Noriega, Allende, the President of Nicaragua etc. Strangely enough though the common demoniator with Venezuela and Iran is that they are both massive oil producers. I don’t see them doing it say, a country which does not have oil or natural resources that the USA could plunder.

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axisofoil

Mar 27, 2020 9:19 PM

If the whole article in The British Medical Journal didn’t open…..here is the rest of the text.
BMJ. 2005 Dec 10; 331(7529): 1412.
PMCID: PMC1309667
Press
Are US flu death figures more PR than science?
Peter Doshi, graduate student
Author information Copyright and License information Disclaimer
US data on influenza deaths are a mess. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) acknowledges a difference between flu death and flu associated death yet uses the terms interchangeably. Additionally, there are significant statistical incompatibilities between official estimates and national vital statistics data. Compounding these problems is a marketing of fear—a CDC communications strategy in which medical experts “predict dire outcomes” during flu seasons.

The CDC website states what has become commonly accepted and widely reported in the lay and scientific press: annually “about 36 000 [Americans] die from flu” (www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease.htm) and “influenza/pneumonia” is the seventh leading cause of death in the United States (www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lcod.htm). But why are flu and pneumonia bundled together? Is the relationship so strong or unique to warrant characterising them as a single cause of death?

David Rosenthal, director of Harvard University Health Services, said, “People don’t necessarily die, per se, of the [flu] virus—the viraemia. What they die of is a secondary pneumonia. So many of these pneumonias are not viral pneumonias but secondary [pneumonias].” But Dr Rosenthal agreed that the flu/pneumonia relationship was not unique. For instance, a recent study (JAMA 2004;292: 1955-60 [PubMed] [Google Scholar]) found that stomach acid suppressing drugs are associated with a higher risk of community acquired pneumonia, but such drugs and pneumonia are not compiled as a single statistic.

CDC states that the historic 1968-9 “Hong Kong flu” pandemic killed 34 000 Americans. At the same time, CDC claims 36 000 Americans annually die from flu. What is going on?

Meanwhile, according to the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), “influenza and pneumonia” took 62 034 lives in 2001—61 777 of which were attributed to pneumonia and 257 to flu, and in only 18 cases was flu virus positively identified. Between 1979 and 2002, NCHS data show an average 1348 flu deaths per year (range 257 to 3006).

The NCHS data would be compatible with CDC mortality estimates if about half of the deaths classed by the NCHS as pneumonia were actually flu initiated secondary pneumonias. But the NCHS criteria indicate otherwise: “Cause-of-death statistics are based solely on the underlying cause of death… defined by WHO as the disease or injury which initiated the train of events leading directly to death.'”

In a written statement, CDC media relations responded to the diverse statistics: “Typically, influenza causes death when the infection leads to severe medical complications.” And as most such cases “are never tested for virus infection...CDC considers these [NCHS] figures to be a very substantial undercounting of the true number of deaths from influenza. Therefore, the CDC uses indirect modelling methods to estimate the number of deaths associated with influenza.”

CDC's model calculated an average annual 36 155 deaths from influenza associated underlying respiratory and circulatory causes (JAMA 2003;289: 179-86 [PubMed] [Google Scholar]). Less than a quarter of these (8097) were described as flu or flu associated underlying pneumonia deaths. Thus the much publicised figure of 36 000 is not an estimate of yearly flu deaths, as widely reported in both the lay and scientific press, but an estimate—generated by a model—of flu-associated death.

William Thompson of the CDC's National Immunization Program (NIP), and lead author of the CDC's 2003 JAMA article, explained that “influenza-associated mortality” is “a statistical association between deaths and viral data available.” He said that an association does not imply an underlying cause of death: “Based on modelling, we think it's associated. I don't know that we would say that it's the underlying cause of death.”

Yet this stance is incompatible with the CDC assertion that the flu kills 36 000 people a year—a misrepresentation that is yet to be publicly corrected.

Before 2003 CDC said that 20 000 influenza-associated deaths occurred each year. The new figure of 36 000 reported in the January 2003 JAMA paper is an estimate of influenza-associated mortality over the 1990s. Keiji Fukuda, a flu researcher and a co-author of the paper, has been quoted as offering two possible causes for this 80% increase: “One is that the number of people older than 65 is growing larger...The second possible reason is the type of virus that predominated in the 1990s [was more virulent].”

However, the 65-plus population grew just 12% between 1990 and 2000. And if flu virus was truly more virulent over the 1990s, one would expect more deaths. But flu deaths recorded by the NCHS were on average 30% lower in the 1990s than the 1980s.

If passed, the Flu Protection Act of 2005 will revamp US flu vaccine policy. The legislation will require CDC to pay makers for vaccines unsold “through routine market mechanisms.” The bill will also require CDC to conduct a “public awareness campaign” emphasising “the safety and benefit of recommended vaccines for the public good.”

Yet this bill obscures the fact that CDC is already working in manufacturers' interest by conducting campaigns to increase flu vaccination. At the 2004 “National Influenza Vaccine Summit,” co-sponsored by CDC and the American Medical Association, Glen Nowak, associate director for communications at the NIP, spoke on using the media to boost demand for the vaccine. One step of a “Seven-StepRecipe’ for Generating Interest in, and Demand for, Flu (or any other) Vaccination” occurs when “medical experts and public health authorities publicly…state concern and alarm (and predict dire outcomes)—and urge influenza vaccination” (www.ama-assn.org/ama1/pub/upload/mm/36/2004_flu_nowak.pdf). Another step entails “continued reports…that influenza is causing severe illness and/or affecting lots of people, helping foster the perception that many people are susceptible to a bad case of influenza.”

Preceding the summit, demand had been low early into the 2003 flu season. “At that point, the manufacturers were telling us that they weren’t receiving a lot of orders for vaccine for use in November or even December,” recalled Dr Nowak on National Public Radio. “It really did look like we needed to do something to encourage people to get a flu shot.”

If flu is in fact not a major cause of death, this public relations approach is surely exaggerated. Moreover, by arbitrarily linking flu with pneumonia, current data are statistically biased. Until corrected and until unbiased statistics are developed, the chances for sound discussion and public health policy are limited.

What a fucking amazing song! Where the hell did that come from? Dylan knew all this at the time but never said directly probably because he was too keen to stay alive. Now he’s 78 he doesn’t give a shit. Proof that he knew then? This from “Desolation Row”:

At midnight all the agents and the superhuman crew
Come out and round up everyone that knows more than they do
Then they bring them to the factory where the heart-attack machine
Is strapped across their shoulders and then the kerosene
Is brought down from the castles by insurance men who go
Check to see that nobody is escaping to Desolation Row

What an opportune time for a virus to appear and socially distance a volatile and outraged planet. Until the arrival of COVID-19 nothing was able to thwart the tenaciousness of the Yellow Vest Protest Movement. Poverty and genocidal wars never provoked as much mass hysteria as the relentless pronouncements of COVID fatalities. Each cable TV channel has a running “Death-0-Meter.” It’s as if they’re tallying election results. The commentator excitedly predicts which geographic location has the highest death toll and is the official winner.

MSNBC and CNN found an ingenious way to use election graphics, instead of citing the outcome of the rigged primaries they now tally deaths…….

Thanatophobia has put the world’s population in-its-place. Every government eager
to flex their muscles are wildly shaking their index finger at panic ridden populations saying all autonomy is eliminated, but it’s all for your own good……….

So why is it not possible that a panic pandemic is not a joint endeavor-East/West are equally predatory as
well as capitalistic. The usual global ghouls–you know the Gates/Davos crowd who see the writing on the planet’s wall- eight billion souls erupting in simultaneous outrage. Is there no better way to contain a sociological frenzy then a by utilizing biological means. A panic pandemic is just what the doctor ordered……

Mr Assange is just another casualty in the never ending class war , in which the global elites have won a great victory for the moment with the successful Coronavirus panic. What happens next is what should be on everyone’s mind ? Now is not the time to grieve for fallen comrades.

If one is born in the ‘dystopian’ future then one knows nothing else, and their lives will be ‘normal.’
Our micro-managed lives would have probably appeared insufferably intolerable to our hunter-gatherer ancestors.

A good point. My children, now in their late 20s and early 30s don’t think anything of the spy cameras now on every street corner, and in fact everywhere. To them they are just ‘security cameras’, a normal part of life. To me, in my 60s, they are one of the most hateful, sinister, Orwellian, developments I can think of, even after 30 years of their deployment.

And generation after generation of us are being born into progressively more developed versions of it and have been ever since. 1984 was always cryptically 1948. The future has always been now. We must fight, not against the implementation of a new normal, but of all the new normals which ever were and that ever will be!

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Alan Tench

Mar 27, 2020 4:26 PM

Identity cards anyone? Has this old chestnut reared its repulsive head yet?

It’s coming: Agenda ID2020
“What is the infamous ID2020? It is an alliance of public-private partners, including UN agencies and civil society. It’s an electronic ID program that uses generalized vaccination as a platform for digital identity.”

Yes. Bill Gates is involvedhttps://id2020.org/
He thinks it would be a great idea to microchip the whole world so they can see if we have had our vaccines and eventually all our details will be on it. The mark of the beast.
Oddly it was involved in the John Hopkins University pandemic exercise last October. Now what a coincidence!http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/newsroom/center-news/2019/2019-08-21-event201.html
Bloomberg gives load of money to John Hopkins University
I suppose it was called ID2020 because it was planned to be implemented in…2020?

ID cards… ID chips is the future. Roll Roll Roll people for your new injectable chip… it’ll let you pay for shopping without carrying your wallet or purse or cash…. oh and we won’t tell you but we’ll be able to track via satellite and mobile phone mast.

Fuck me I wonder about my sanity sometimes….

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JudyJ

Mar 27, 2020 4:12 PM

The UK Govt has now revised its earlier diktat about the once a day exercise excursion. They have now decreed that this should be undertaken locally and as near to home as possible and people should not drive to other areas. This follows what appears to have been a widespread

unilateral police initiative

to deem it contrary to coronavirus control measures to drive anywhere for the purpose of exercise or to walk the dog. Until this morning this was considered by rational people to be a drastic and purposeless over-reaction. And it appeared that until this morning the UK Cabinet Office, in response to a query from the Guardian, agreed with us.

But now the UK Govt has backtracked. Can anyone out there who supports the fascist control measures please explain the logic of this in scientific terms? Apparently it is fine for me to drive 5 miles to a local supermarket where I shall be herded like a submissive, compliant sheep with hundreds of other people, having parked up with a car 2ft to each side of me. But I am not allowed to drive 2 miles to my favourite 500 acre estate and be one of only 12 cars in a 40 space public car park and be one of three people walking in the estate grounds. And what then is the logic of allowing cyclists out on the public road cycling maybe 50 round miles as their daily exercise regime?

Absolute madness.

p.s. just seen Esther Rantzen saying that people should take the opportunity to explore and enjoy the world they live in…someone needs to tell her “Not any more!”.

Engage people in conversation where ever you can, talk is still free…
Spread the word, spread the descent of The Crackpot Government and it’s leader, Bozo Stalin.
I intend to disobey ‘orders’ where I see them as evil.

I have engaged five people in conversation since yesterday. Three came across as tolerating or ‘humouring’ the mad woman, one effectively told me to ‘talk to the hand’ as he had “medics in the family” who had assured him that the virus was causing mayhem, and one person seemed genuinely interested. 1 out of 5 with some insults thrown in – could’ve been worse. 😀

Talked to several people in last few days. Roughly 50/50 to those who believe the compulsive liar to those who don’t trust him. Even some people who I thought were quite sane believe the liar, and his scaremongering.]
In a few weeks time we are going to have the biggest mental health crisis ever seen. Domestic and child abuse will shoot up , caused by this mass hysteria. Mostly I am concerned for those who have to endure this “shielding” process, many with physical disabilities who can’t get the care they need.
Cheers
Ian

Ian/John as Marx said, if there was to be a revolution in Britain it would be in gardening. Ok Let’s start with Gardener’s Question Time – which, incidentally, in my travels around the excellent Netherlands, the Dutch thought was the height of British eccentricity and thought it was a sarcastic comedy programme!! As they say, stimulating a clematis is a very delicate thing!

That ‘disobedience’ will continue later tonight, I’m going to visit my 90 year old neighbour as I always do. She has a bottle of whiskey for me…
To me, that is evil, letting an old dear be frightened and alone without a little company, even Her supine nearest and dearest are obeying Bozo Stalin.
Google “Common Purpose” if you want to find out what has became of our once decent police.

If you watch the use less crooks (victim of multiple crimes, police response useless) none of them are staying apart. This is just their usual anti people policy and in a few weeks time, they will ask for that same public’s help after irritating them for no reason. Can see no reason for not going to more scenic areas for exercise. What I went to know is how many deaths are caused by the virus compared to those who die with it? and how many of these deaths are of the usual 1800 who die every day anyway.

You’ve hit the nail on the head. Your last two sentences: that’s what we’d all like to know but, for some reason, the Government seems reluctant to share that information, that’s assuming they know it themselves!

On my way to work today – yes essential – I stopped at local garage, at least 6 police officers getting their takeaway coffees, when I asked if I could get a take out I was told no it’s a special arrangement. WTF!!!!!! On way not one police (or PCSO) office asked where I was going, instead they joked “you’ve never seen so many of us” to which I replied, “good to see my tax money being used properly”

It’s like one long holiday for the police. They’ve never had it so good. No real work to do, they can relax (whilst on official business of course!), and have freedom to harass anyone who they think is a soft touch. I doubt that they’re eager for all this to be over! 😀

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jay

Mar 27, 2020 4:05 PM

All the famous and important people coming down the ‘dreaded’ illness…I do not know a single, solitary soul who has it.
Is corona carried by tv cameras?

Jay, now you’ve raised an interesting point there. I have tracked, over the years, the celebrity trend of being diagnosed with what I call ‘conditions du jour’ – when Aspergers was a popular diagnosis, how many celebrities miraculously claimed to have recently been diagnosed with it – loads. Now one thing, there is no such thing as late onset Aspergers, you have it from birth/childhood or you don’t. Then there came OCD, OMG, I lost count of all the celebrities and famous people who came forward to claim they had been diagnosed with this. These are just two – there are many more but would be too long for here. Clinical OCD is a severely debilitating mental illness which traps someone in a cycle of activity which has its roots in psychological and emotional disturbance. The same with Asperger’s. Now of course it’s CV-19 but hey, they’ve probably just got a cough and a cold. Anyway, how come they get tested and nobody else seems to?

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John Martin

Mar 27, 2020 3:15 PM

I have rarely been so afraid. The world is slipping further and further into fascism, and there doesn’t seem to be anything I or anyone else can do about it. Previously, voting would perhaps have given the illusion of some control over the events that shape our lives, but that has long since gone. And far worse than what the state is doing, is how many people are cheering from the sidelines. My wife is asthmatic and is a bit worried about catching the virus, but even she is of the opinion that the restrictions are justified. I am sitting here at home, and it feels like I’m in prison, yet I have never broken the law in my life. And yet now, I am in the depths of despair. These restrictions are not going to be lifted after six months. It takes impossible naivety to think otherwise. I don’t know what to do.

That is exactly what this is. The willful destruction of the OLD order. The elites are burning down the Titanic. Those who survive and fall into the ocean, will be grateful to be able to live on a wooden raft.

I am sitting here at home, and it feels like I’m in prison, yet I have never broken the law in my life.

Not even a speed limit ? 🙂 Maybe the universe is punishing you for going 75mph on a motorway …

And yet now, I am in the depths of despair.

Darkest hour is just before the dawn. Take care of yourselves, John. Eat well, sleep, exercise. watch some old Ken Dodd shows. Peruse this website.

These restrictions are not going to be lifted after six months. It takes impossible naivety to think otherwise.

Meh. Once a sufficient number of people wake up to their absolute absurdity, they’ll be toast before you know it.

I don’t know what to do.

Stay positive. Maybe perform one act every day that brings us nearer to where we should be. Get stoned. Dig the garden. Write that novel. Hug a tree. Apologise to anyone you’ve ever accused of being a conspiracy theorist. 🙂

John Martin, they will be lifted by Easter I predict for a variety of reasons. In Italy, the public are now having enough and have started to defy them. A Government cannot keep people in indefinitely especially when they have created a situation where mass unemployment is already starting. I detect Cabin Fever has started with some of my colleagues who I am still in touch with, friends, family and acquaintances. Nil desperandum – fear will keep you a prisoner hope will set you free – yep, tagline of The Shawshank Redemption. Keep psychologically well, flout the rules, go out 10 times a day if necessary, get out in the fresh air as much as you can and keep psychologically fit and positive. Keep on this site for reasoned dissent and some humour. The Yellow Vests movement will be out on the streets before long – we should start one here.

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1of7billion

Mar 27, 2020 3:00 PM

I know things may seem bad at present, and like those in power are doing “the mother of all crackdowns.”

But I do think we need to keep some perspective.

i.e. I wonder that if there really is this organised age old conspiracy to enslave humanity to a level that even George Orwell could not have imagined, by some “Illuminati” group hiding in the shadows or in plain sight even, but pretending they are all good citizens, how did the masses ever get the kind of freedom and aid they’ve had in particular since the end of the 2nd world war – in the UK anyway – in the form of the NHS and welfare state and right to a university education, such that even the poorest person is if talented and hard working enough able to rise to at least professional status?

So yes, I’d agree that since Mrs Thatcher in particular, and arguably even worse, Tony Blair, we’ve seen a roll back of the progress for the masses of these things, which by the way have included the abolition of the death penalty, corporal punishment in schools, and the right to legal representation and jury trials, which are all massive leaps forward for the ordinary people, who as little as a hundred years ago – i.e. WWI – were considered almost entirely as easily disposable cannon fodder and 10 year old pit slaves.

Which right to send the masses to their death by rulers, including in dangerous mines, was pretty much the case all throughout previous history.

So if we compare our lives even now, with the sort of thing our ancestors experienced in former times, like the Middle Ages, when we could legally even be tortured for one reason or another, we still have an immense amount of freedom and aid by comparison – especially healthcare – you know, we lay dying in the road after an accident, and countless £1000s get spent on us, as a “flying squad” of highly trained experts arrive and do their utmost to keep us alive in hi-tech operating theatres, and in the UK at least, don’t even inspect our wallets in advance or demand payment afterwards.

So I really think we need to get things in perspective, or else whether or not the government “locks us down” for some reason or other as with this virus, we can lock ourselves down in paralytic fear, like being addicted to a horror film we can’t stop watching, playing it over and over again, to escape from reality.

Fundamentally I think we only have one main problem. Which is, that what we need to push for, is a system in which our politicians, our MPs, actually represent us.

This is what we need to do, instead of worrying if the fleet of black helicopters is about to come over the horizon and we will be either murdered or draggged off to be microchipped and made to do something or other for the rest of our lives that those in power want, though we aren’t even sure exactly what it is.

Electoral reform is our main need, or else our votes will remain largely meaningless, though not totally, as Brexit for example was a decision in which the majority were genuinely able to exercise their will, whether that was the right decision or not, I do not wish to debate here.

But if we agree democracy is the way forward, then our number one need is to promote real democracy, and therefore to identify what it is that is preventing it – for example in the US right now, it appears electoral fraud may be a part, that has led to the apparent destruction of Bernie Sanders.

So we should for example resist electronic voting machines, as they are too easily used to commit voting fraud.

But above all, what makes global democracy mostly invalid, for those nations who even have elections, is that the public almost never has any control over electoral candidate lists, so their vote is meaningless.

As whoever they vote for is merely full of plausible promises to gain votes, but after the election, reneges on all their promises, and merely carries out the policies of whatever group who put them on the candidate list demands, whether that group is the rich elite, or some political activist group, supporting some minority cause against the majority’s wishes.

So if we want to stop this madness happening again, we need to get control over electoral candidate lists, and vote for only those who we believe are genuine people, who care, and are not merely seeking office for personal gain, as it appears most of our modern politicians are.

Likewise, even with the system as it stands (in the UK) without proportional representation (which the main parties are united in resisting, as they know their domination would be over if it was allowed) a large percentage of the population’s votes are totally useless, as they know wherever they are, the same party has often taken local power since elections began almost.

Because if we don’t get truly representative politicians, who genuinely serve the people, instead of just themselves, this kind of madness we’ve just seen with the response to the virus, is going to repeat over and over, as it has done already of course.

As with Mrs Thatcher destroying most of British industry and self-sufficiency, and waging a pointless murderous war against Argentina; Tony Blair privatising our public services further, while pretending he was a socialist, and leading us into another disastrous war none of the British people wanted, that brought terrorism upon us ever since, and so on.

I would personally love to see a referendum on the virus measures – do you want to cower in fear imprisoned in your homes, or do you want to live “free and brave” and carry on life as normal, whilst just protecting the old and vulnerable? Yes or No?

I’m pretty sure most of the population would have voted freedom and life as normal.

But as they weren’t asked, we’ll never know.

But you certainly can’t call it democracy when they aren’t consulted over such matters, except by dubious polls that are almost certainly phrased and vetted and manipulated, such that they report “the public supports by poll” whatever the current government wants to do – certain of the polling companies can be traced almost directly back to the government in terms of funding, personnel or whatever.

Electoral reform won’t help us, our political parties are all beyond redemption. We are ruled by a loose alliance of security services, think tanks, NGOs, financiers, global corporations, senior civil servants and public institutions. All backed by the media, marketing and advertising, educationalists, religious leaders and academics. You’d literally have to tear the whole lot down and start from scratch in order to make real changes.
You are right to say “we still have an immense amount of freedom and aid by comparison”. That’s how they keep us in line as ‘managed democracies’) and will continue to do so until the cyclical crash that brings the whole lot down. Ane they aren’t by any means stupid, so times like this can only drive people’s suspicions of motive.

There was no need to go through Covid to realize the dystopian tones of the path human “civilization” have been folowing for a while …..this was clear long ago for any aware observer…Covid just happend to make it patently vivid on a large scale.

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Gwyn

Mar 27, 2020 1:58 PM

The de Piffle monstrosity, I mean, our esteemed prime minister, has now supposedly tested positive for the virus.

Next up: Her Majesty the Old Baked Bean. The flag-wavers of Little England go (even further) into meltdown…

Gwyn, Bozo Stalin has not tested positive for CV-19 and does not have it. He is a pathological liar. How convenient it was for him to go into self-isolation just when he was at the receiving end of severe criticism for his failure to accept the EU’s offer of a procurement exercise to purchase ventilators in quantity and at an affordable cheap cost and other criticisms surrounding him at the time. Great way to exit stage left isn’t it. He hasn’t got it neither has Matt Hancock – it’s called in the magic circle – a disappearing act.

As well as pretending to have the virus to serve the purpose that you mention, he’s also a lazy bugger who’s breezed through life without having to do a day’s hard work, Jo.

What is it with these born-to-rule types and their tendency to disappear when they might have to roll their sleeves up?

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1of7billion

Mar 27, 2020 1:41 PM

I think there are so many factors in play here, that it’s not easy to see exactly what all the outcomes are for even those who may think they are in charge of the game, and in fact, I would debate if anybody really is.

For example, one of my own personal theories, is that – however it seems – China actually started this Draconian set of measures against its own population, caused the international scare to begin.

And in fact the fabled abuse of the doctor who tried to “blow the story” but was allegedly tried to be repressed (clearly not very successfully, you will note), so beloved a news story to the Western media, was the key “set up” element to fool the China-abuse-hungry Western media and governments, causing them actually to “sting” themselves, by aping the Draconian measures the Chinese had taken, whose likely purpose was to find an acceptable excuse to get the apparently relentless and death-defying Hong Kong protesters off the streets, who are its main problem in terms of its international profile.

After all, what could other world governments say about China’s abuse of the Hong Kong protesters when they were if the plan succeeded – as to date, it clearly has – doing the very same or even worse to their own populations, in the name of controlling this virus?

As if anybody ever could defeat an invisible, invulnerable and mostly even undetectable enemy that can’t be bombed, intimidated, or even reliably disinfected anyway.

So then, if that theory is true, which I’m not insisting, but I very much doubt anybody could convincingly prove me wrong about, then instead of the Western leaders looking like some wicked chess grandmasters in a global conspiracy to permanently imprison their people in a never-ending Orwellian dystopia, they are seen as naive dupes.

Frightened, politically insecure leaders, who have been scared mostly unwillingly (except for certain first rate despots like Macron) into taking very dangerous and ultimately very unpopular measures, which may not only leave them being held as responsible for the destruction of the economy, but also unelectable, and destined to go down in history as the worst of all national leaders.

But it appears to me fortunately for all of us, we have a perhaps unexpected saviour, in the form of “the real Donald J Trump.”

As it appears from his recent statements, he believes the left wing are deliberately trying to use this to destroy the US economy, which is his main focus – and a very plausible case exists that the left in this country are trying to do the same, as the most enthusiastic of “freedom deniers” like Sadiq Khan and others calling for ever more “shut downs” and social control/deprivation of liberty – for precisely the same purpose of getting rid of Boris Johnson.

That is, the left – the PC crowd, who have taken over the Labour party since Tony Blair – don’t in fact give a damn that by their relentless egging on of Boris Johnson to ever more restrictions of civil liberty, under the threat they will brand him a mass murderer if he fails to cooperate, and therefore be forced to resign and unelectable, that they are putting not only the whole population but even themselves and their families into untold danger.

For when the (they don’t seem to realise, very fragile) system as we know it properly breaks down – all sorts of problems could occur – shortages of food, medicine, and the other basics of life like water, gas, electricity, with the almost certain outcome of eventual riots in which nobody would be safe, including themselves.

So gladly, it appears within a fortnight, President Trump is going to order America back to work and more or less resume life as it was before, but just telling people to wash their hands still and practice some social distancing, avoid handshaking, etc. – things probably we should have all been doing anyway, just to keep the population and ourselves healthier in general.

Then probably even opportunists like the despotic Monsieur Macron, whom it is clear also has exactly the same if not a worse problem with protesters than China, will be forced to relent, as just as the domino effect of copycat leaders led to the mass lockdowns, the same effect in reverse, starting with President Trump, will cause the lockdowns to be lifted.

A new mantra will arise – “we have to have trade-offs – shutting down society will kill move than the virus in the long run…” that will shut up the actual anti-freedom fanatics, who are mostly in the left rather than the right wing.

The right wing mainly just want to keep the status quo of servants of the masses, they don’t actually want to stick wires in their brains and reprogram their morals like the left/PC groups largely do, as long as they keep turning up for work on Monday mornings, and thus keep the wealthy fat and rich and the stock market indexes high.

None of this is to say there isn’t still a mass injustice in the world, really masses of injustices, which obviously includes the ever widening wealth inequality.

But it is not in the interests of the rich elite who admittedly mostly control governments as things stand, to create a chaos that even they won’t survive forever, however deep and secure their bunkers, as they too will sooner or later want to resume their public pursuits – you know, at the Henley Regatta, Ascot and skiing in Switzerland, Royal garden parties at Buckingham Palace, etc., so they’ll still need their slaves from the masses to hold the drinks trays and serve at table and prepare their haute cuisine banquets.

I can’t see them cancelling Wimbledon and many more cricket test matches for example – oh no, that just wouldn’t do, old boy!

So rest assured, this is likely to be a very temporary episode of “1984”, probably over within 4 weeks is my guess – i.e. about 2 weeks after Donald Trump packs in it.

And in fact, unless the bodies pile up in droves as the doomsayers suggest, which they won’t, a lot of people are going to have egg on their faces after this, and not be listened to again.

And in fact, the left wing/PC brigade who have so zealously supported this temporary mass madness are likely to have this backfire on them, when it is remembered they were so enthusiastic to take everybody’s human rights away without due cause, while pretending to be the champion of such rights, all the rest of the year round.

Interesting stuff. My take on the role of the Left, however, is that they are being used to front calls ‘to do more’ that are actually originating with the Deep State and even the conservative establishment. The Left has very often been used to legitimise right-wing, extreme policies – remember the Iraq War and many other issues. I think this is what is happening here. Remember too that Trump has been at loggerheads with the American military-industrial complex for all his presidency.

I agree with you. It’s the “Responsibility to Protect” virus carriers. Wreathed in virtue, fully “liberal” and absolutely on-board with anything the imperial scumbags do. In fact, I’ve just described a Grauniad drone.

I would say that Trump has APPARENTLY been at loggerheads with the American military-industrial complex, but the continuation of US imperialism all over the place leaves me unconvinced.
You’re either president, or you’re not. If you can’t do what you think is important for the country, then you have to quit the job and try to pave the way for a person with stronger character and integrity to follow you.

The thing is, 1of7, these “frightened, politically insecure leaders” actually chose a career in politics, although I am constantly asking myself what on earth would lead someone in the 21st Century to follow that path… If they do it because the pay is good, because they like ordering other people around, or because they just like to look important, then to my mind they belong in the category of narcissistic, arrogant psychotics, who are way beyond being “frightened”, or “politically insecure”.
After all, they can always stick together and hide behind each other’s misdemeanours, enjoying the self-confidence which comes from “the group”.
They may indeed, as you suggest, be dupes, but that doesn’t mean they are in the same category as the ignorant dupes to be found in the bulk of our populations. On the contrary, they, in turn, are quite deliberately taking part in the duping of the latter, and probably have a pretty good idea of the horrid corruption which lurks in their own background and to which they owe their illustrious duping careers.
Acting the fool, acting the Drumpf, or acting the Boris is easy enough when you get handsomely paid for it and can even afford to attend evening classes in play-acting.

You are forgetting one thing- Event 201. It’s obvious by looking at the videos of their meeting, that the elites knew the “pandemic” was coming. They were making last minute preparations, and making sure everyone is on the same page.

Donald Trump is just another puppet of the elites. The people who run the show are the Zionist bankers. It’s no coincidence that Trump has a wealthy Jewish son-in-law. I think he even mentioned once that his mother was part Jewish.

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breweriana

Mar 27, 2020 1:17 PM

Public Health England’s (PHE) epidemic intelligence activities monitor global HCID (high consequence infectious disease) events. These are published in a monthly summary in the form of a downloadable pdf file. The summaries followed monthly, through 2019, right up to the December bulletin, thus:

In that issue, the monthly update for December 2019 we have:
‘UNDIAGNOSED DISEASE Events Wuhan, Hubei Province, China. In late December, an outbreak of viral pneumonia of unknown aetiology was identified in Wuhan. Many, but not all cases were linked with a seafood and live animal market in the city (Huanan South China Seafood Market). The cause was SUBSEQUENTLY IDENTIFIED as a novel coronavirus. A FULL UPDATE WILL BE PROVIDED IN THE JANUARY 2020 SUMMARY.’ (uppercase added).

No information is given at all as to who, how, where or when the cause became known, and no further bulletins have been publicly issued since!

But then, a new single webpage format report was issued by the UK government thus:

‘Covid-19 has not been an HCID in the UK since the 19th March 2020, when it was declassified by PHE and the NHS, and also by The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) who were also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID.

An HCID is defined as:
an acute infectious disease
typically has a high case-fatality rate
may not have effective prophylaxis or treatment
often difficult to recognise and detect rapidly
ability to spread in the community and within healthcare settings
requires an enhanced individual, population and system response to ensure it is managed effectively, efficiently and safely’

Yet, on the very same day the ‘virus’ was de-classified, Prime Minister Boris Johnson then announced measures unheard of in a supposed ‘democracy’ – ‘lockdowns’, threats, no freedom to work or take recreation. A curfew in all but name.

What is the most scary part to me personally, is the suggestion of mandatory vaccinations – they are good, say some. Likewise, so were the cattle trucks taking certain folk to ‘safety and security’ a long time ago, said some.
“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.”
Albert Camus quotation.

Enforced mass medication. Like fluoridation of water. Another bad idea.

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Mucho

Mar 27, 2020 1:15 PM

No-one suspects that 5G will harm our health. We know 100% for a fact that 5G will harm our health. We have the documents to prove this. Here is a summary of those health effects from an official CIA document, page 57, link below:

“Morphological, functional and biochemical studies conducted in humans and animals revealed that millimeter waves caused changes in the body manifested in structural alterations in the skin and internal organs, qualitative and quantitive changes in the blood and bone marrow composition and changes of the conditioned reflex activity, tissue respiration, activity of enzymes participating in the processs of tissue respiration and nucleic metabolism. The degree of unfavourable effect of millimeter waves depended on the duration of the radiation and individual characteristics of the organism.”

Proper 5G uses millimeter waves. They may in the UK initially go sub mmw and claim this is 5G, but the plan is to go full mmw. WIGIG, the new USA approved wifi, broadcasts at 60Ghz millimieter waves, that is a fact. Here is the proof of that. Take your pick on which links you press to confirm this.

Mucho, interesting the information is from the CIA isn’t it because China are at the forefront of it’s developoment. As Mike Pompeo said “the 5G War is one that we, the USA, has to win”. So, it’s only when China is the only country seriously advanced in its’ development and the USA have effectively put in sanctions to prevent other countries buying it (which haven’t worked) but they also see it as a ‘war’. Propaganda is Propaganda is Propaganda. Once again, the anti-China narrative is taking hold.

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TFS

Mar 27, 2020 1:13 PM

Sorry OffG : Off Topic.

Any chance you could run some articles of updates for various things people who read this website are interested in? You could label it ‘Out in the Wild : Update’.

We’d love to but our resources are finite and the police state rollout worldwide seems the most urgent issue right now, to us and to our contributors. But we will no doubt be covering these other major events when we can.

Porton Down admits to primate testing of Novichok in response to a freedom of information request!

The MH17 stuff looks interesting.

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wardropper

Mar 27, 2020 1:06 PM

Thank you. Now let’s have 14 ways of DEALING WITH the bloody CoVid World Order. I think we’ve all got the message about how awful it is.
It’s hard, I know, but we need to call out by name, using the information and evidence we have, those who are actively promoting this ludicrous and deadly panic.

The opening 30 minutes of the Adrian Chiles show on Radio 5 this morning is well worth a listen to get a handle on just how farcical this whole charade is. They really are doing a great job of proving how easy it is to fool people and turn them into dribbling morons. So called doctors sounding totally clueless, contradicting themselves all over the place, it has to be heard to be believed, then confirming that the tests produce both false positives and false negatives (Covid 19 was only supposedly isolated on 13th March https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/coronavirus-covid-19-virus-isolate-canada-scientists-mutations-strains-a9399226.html so how they have all these tests ready for something isolated 14 days ago is something of a mystery and yet more proof this is nothing but a giant hoax, a government manoeuvre where basically the virus hoax is the cover story for the imposition of the New World Order)…..okayyyyy……people saying they KNOW they had it because they had a bit of a cough. Of course no-one is being pulled up for spreading such blatantly false misinformation. And now apparently another defacto, proven beyond all doubt symptom of coronavirus is when women get a bit of a headache and feel tired. All in the space of 30 minutes. What. A. Joke. This. Is. The controllers must be absolutely rolling on the floor in hysterics with this one, what with all the regular Joes prancing around in their Hamzat suits, fully tooled up for the apocalypse.

In a previous post I mentioned Western governments printing money to stop living standards from falling.

Supply chains are now being critically inpacted across the world in a ‘death by a thousand cuts’ scenario. Most of production now in Europe and North America is completely shuttered down.

So, there we have the supply shock – the volume of goods and services available for purchase is shrinking.

On the demand (consumption) side we have the western central banks and governments now vomiting forth an apparently endless stream of monopoly money in a frantic attempt to sustain their citizens’ living standards.

Decreasing supply meeting this flood of money means hyperinflation, for which enough fuel has already been produced in the last 50 years anyway.

It gets worse.

In the UK something like 80% of households live paycheque to paycheque, their money goes out at least as fast as it comes in. They don’t save – indeed can’t.

So, they have to spend.

What will they spend it on?

This is where it gets interesting.

Across most of Europe and North America the only shops now open are those selling basic essentials food, medicines, toilet-paper etc.

However, even food has very complex supply chains. Just think of the fertilizers, feedstock, spare parts for tractors and other equipment etc. that is necessary to feed 7.5 billion people.

I wonder how that’s faring right now.

In my local supermarket the price of noodles has doubled compared with 3 weeks ago.

So, this system is going down with hyperinflation – very probably this year – conservative estimate.

Hyperinflation will not only destroy the present monetary system, but also the power of managers of thats system who presided over it.

Korbyko makes the mistake of thinking that just because people are docile when the shope are full and their fridges are full, that they will always be docile.

He’s not alone – quite a few rulers in the past have made that mistake too.

He seems to forget also that this massive apparatus of oppression, that he envisages, produces nothing, would be in itself completely dependent on a very finely-tuned global superorganism of billions of people all working away at their Jobs and businesses to improve and sustain their own lives. Just think of all the hardware (computers and such) it would need.

Goods and equipment can’t be clicked into existence in a software program.

This apparatus of oppression, producing nothing, depends on an economic surplus being there. As a society becomes more impoverished, there is less surplus available to the rulers for oppression. Which means they have to extract more. Which means the people become more rebellious or work less. Which means oppression must be tightened or taxes increased. A vicious circle spiralling downwards.

Korbyko says also that government has never had so much power over the people.

In a legal sense this is close to being true. However, ask yourself this. If the governments are so powerful, then why are they scrambling to print money to try and sustain living Standards?

We know it’s not because they love the people.

It’s because they fear how the people will react to a sustained fall in living standards with no prospect of improvement.

Korbyko overstimates the abilities and self-confidence of elites.

So, while Korbyko is right to be wary, don’t succumb to his pessimism.

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jiri

Mar 27, 2020 12:36 PM

There migh be an another aspect of all of this. If i recall correctly then China was struggling with US sanctions and trade war for about a year or two. There is authoritarian regime, right? So if I hypoteticaly send out a message, well dont have actually to create anything, there are plenty already, so just a message, about some new virus, what was “found”, coz they have the best laboratiories globaly to find some unseen shite and with that global medical network working like charm, there are many options.
Afterwards send few real information to social media, create few “reallistic leaked flicks” with many deaths and start local theater, well perhaps circus, for few hundert tousends citizens, which is pretty much doable with such goverment, in the end this is not as comlicated as large military excersise and wait for about 3-5 months, when social and mainstream media catch in. Funny is, you dont need to make it as secret as it might be, there are many sheeples even in China, so few choosen, some key players dissapearance afterwards just make story more valid, coz evil chinesse goverment, even thou they might have new identity and swimming in sea on beach with life set or not, dont matter. Then other bigwigs could go with the flow and fuel mass hysteria as saivors, to cover several fuckups in state budgets, such as Italy was right before bancrupcy. So in the end China is back manufacturing number one, making billions of medical and protective gadgets, no restriction to trade, some goverments swept below the rock budgets fuckups and crowd on shouting huzzah is happy and content and even asking willingly to get less and less freedom, like banning money (they can spread diesase and typing pin on the bank card payment terminal on keyboard touched by tousends not) and such little hassles, mostly already mentioned, what are now can be done in one go…
There is some old Jewish saying, if you unsure, follow money…

why? – they’re prolly lying to you to fake-out your sympathy… – where are *you*?, where you *at*?… who’s close by you?, – family?… – friends?… – give them your attention, not some pinnochio on a stage…

Read my comment properly, please, Sgt. Of course fakery will go on, but I’m talking about one of our leaders actually, really, ending up on life-support due to CoVid19. When that happens, I’m listening, and not until then.
A rough parallel would be one of the witch-hunt stories (Salem?), where practically any woman was liable to be accused of being a witch – until the wife of the local witch-finder/magistrate was accused too. Then the magistrate decided that enough was enough, and the hysteria disappeared overnight.

I did say a “rough” parallel. That means not to be taken as an exact parallel. The point of my parallel was to indicate the sort of thing that can actually put a stop to mass hysteria.
I woke up a long time ago, and I completely agree with what you say about the media.

“I woke up a long time ago, and I completely agree with what you say about the media.”

i know, wardropper, from reading your many other comments onsite, and as an OffG noobie please accept my apologies… – just *exasperated* at this media-driven psyopery.

– rather, please take my comments as intended, as attempting to illustrate a general point, and directed at the entire audience here, not you personally, tho’ i’ll admit this shit is making me more twichy than i’d like.

I get the twitchiness too, Sgt, as well as your general point. It’s a problem I noticed as soon as texting and FaceBook became a thing in our society. People who actually meet and talk together are generally pretty considerate and read each other’s facial expressions accurately enough. But when all they have is a text to go on, it’s all-too easy to imagine a negative tone behind it.
I’m as guilty as anyone there, so my apologies too.

If some celebrity gets the virus and then dies this will bring it home for many folks. But if Prince Charles, Tom Hanks, Mrs. Trudeau, Prime Minister Johnson and others all go on to live many more years the n what are we to think?

Exactly. Not that one would wish death upon anybody, but it would certainly alter the public perception of what seems to me, and to several respected scientists, to be a commonplace bug.
One thing that characterizes our modern media is that they never think anything through to the end, if that might conflict with “a dramatic narrative”.

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SteveEss

Mar 27, 2020 12:23 PM

Apparently we PD’s (Pandemic Deniers) can no longer counter that “seasonal flu is far worse than Covid-19″… Turns out the CDC (and WHO, and others) have been lying about those #s for years as well…

Just back from my daily trip to the circus, that I previously called a supermarket. The tape is now being stuck to the pavement outside and sheep are being made to queue acres apart. The one-upmanship amongst the retailers is a sight to see now. By tomorrow I fully expect to see the supermarket further down the road crank up the symbolism with some other futile idea.

I’ve just done the same – an hour’s wait to get into Sainsbury’s. I don’t think many of us will be looking at the supermarkets in the same light again after these events. It all seems suspiciously well planned and coordinated too.
But if there is a positive, at least it should show beyond doubt what the British government has become – a treacherous junta of big business and the security agencies that has left the country like a cross between Soviet Russia and the Taliban’s Afghanistan.

starve them of your bux… – all of the local grocers near me (indian, pakistani, lebanese, etc.,…) ain’t getting their shelves stripped bare… – am *very* lucky to have a lebanese supermarket open 24/7 and *chock-full* of produce (incl: fresh fruit and veg) right now… – all the muppets seem to be heading for the big chains…

Sgt yep. I have a Lidl 4 mins walk away, and it is an oasis of calm actually. I can also recommend Poundland, the corner shops you refer to as I have for a long time bought rice, herbs and other food from the local Asian Food Shop. I buy my meat from a butchers and, not being a fruit or a vegetable eater with the exception of peas and tomatoes, buy what I need in my local market. A City Analyst said on the radio that, at the end of last week, there was £1bn more food in people’s houses than ever before. Who is making megabucks here?

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Sgt Oddball

Mar 27, 2020 11:45 AM

just stuck my head out the window here in a typical brit metropolis and grabbed a lungful or two, and i thought of this:…

“Not a Martian in sight! The day seemed dazzling bright after my imprisonment and the sky a glowing blue. Red Weed covered every scrap of ground but a gentle breeze kept it swaying, and oh! the sweetness of the air!”

Wardropper, I like it. It brought a smile and a laugh. I strongly suspect that what he will be diagnosed with in 30 years plus his remaining life span depends on how far up the Orange Baboon’s nether regions his head is up. Shit is highly contagious when a Baboon and his Mini Me Baboon spout it from their mouths and causes a speech disorder underpinned by a complete inability to tell the truth.

I don’t like to indulge in semantics, but aren’t we talking about “The Boy Who Cried, ‘Wolf'”?
Peter and the Wolf is not about a boy who was constantly alarming people by pretending he saw a wolf, but is best known as a musical story by Prokofiev for narrator and orchestra about a boy who fearlessly trapped a local wolf and marched home with it, along with his animal companions. The music is priceless. Highly recommended for all ages, unlike Boorish, who would never fearlessly do anything at all – except talk crap.

I’ve heard it all now. I saw yesterday circulating on Twitter video footage from the Peak District showing people individually or in couples walking remotely in the Peak District with no one else near them. There were captions over each piece of footage saying that they were contravening the containment rules because they had driven there. I thought it was a parody but I have just heard on the Radio news that it was genuine aerial footage filmed by the local police and they had produced it as a public information bulletin.

The police chief in charge was asked to explain the heavy-handed approach. His sarcastic and smug defence was that it was perfectly justifiable because instructions to the public are that they should only undertake essential travel and [in his words] “the instructions don’t say ‘keep travel to a minimum unless you happen to want to go to the Peak District’ “. Jeez. He’ll get promotion no doubt for initiative.

Police said members of the public should not be driving anywhere to walk their dogs or exercise.

However, the Guardian checked with the Cabinet Office, which is overseeing restrictions on movement, and a spokeswoman confirmed that the guidelines did not prohibit driving somewhere for exercise or dog walking.

You can always trust the coppers to exceed their authority. Which is why one should always always always question the routine request from them for extra powers. And that’s just in normal times. These times are anything but normal.

Peter Hitjchens blog. As the excellent Lord Sumption says, these so called containment measures are not law – there is a qualitative difference between instructions and the law. The Police cannot, and I repeat, cannot penalise members of the public for failing to follow unreasonable, idiotic instructions. The Police, as Lord Sumption quite rightly points out, are the to uphold the LAW not INSTRUCTIONS

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sabelmouse

Mar 27, 2020 10:52 AM

not sure vaccine mandates will even be needed after this, or censorship re that issue.

Sadly, Mouse, and probably difficult for most members of the commonwealth to believe or understand, it will ALL be voluntary: the vaccines, the inspections, the directions, the food shortages, forced collections and distribution, the devolvement of power, the ‘watcher’ in each block, the reporting of, what… ‘rightists’, ‘subversives’, ‘bio-terrorists’?

If a plan has worked before, it will work again – and what we are going through has already happened elsewhere – and it worked.

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milosevic

Mar 27, 2020 10:38 AM

Moon of Alabama has clearly gone off the rails, but left this amusing graphic for posterity:

Yeah, very disappointed about MoA. I’ve followed ‘b’ for years! He almost never let us down on anything important in the past. Sad to see him succumb to the Great #CoronaHoax of 2020.

But there are actually quite a lot of people in the alt-media, both left and right, who really want to believe in this. They all seem to think they can somehow game this ‘plague’ politically to get their favorite reforms passed. The right-wingers are all so happy about having their borders back (even though they can’t leave their houses), while the lefties are overjoyed that they’re now all finally going to get socialized medicine–YEAH!!!

Gone off the rails… or got a bung or threat to toe the line. It isn’t the only supposedly ‘alternative’ site, unfortunately, that has either been silent or mealy-mouthed about the coronavirus lockdown.

Maybe some grim-looking blokes came round with hammers to smash their laptops

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Arsebiscuits

Mar 27, 2020 10:37 AM

Hey looky here, them good people at the CDC were looking for any good hearted person with skills to work in quarantine advisory role all the way back in November… Not bad money either for a job role that had no future then…

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Estaugh

Mar 27, 2020 10:34 AM

http://jdmichel.blog.tdg.ch/archive/2020/03/24/hydroxychloroquine-comment-la-mauvaise-science-est-devenue-u-305255.html. The link is in french, a must read, (for those with the lingo).Exposes the ties between govs and the Big Pharma lobbies; their collusion in policy making, how they control the ‘scientific’ narrative, (ie, lies), and why they poo-poo chloroquine. Plenty of links to other articles on same subject, some in english, (like the following):-https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmselect/cmhealth/42/42.pdf . What is taking place is a Corporate coup d’etat, courtesy of our present governance of occupation.

I suppose this is marginally off topic but lots of folk have posted a clip of a Simpsons episode featuring the creation of a phoney pandemic. The trouble is that I can find nothing to tell me which episode this is from. There’s a Simpsons fan site which lists it as an episode called “The Plague” and yet the Wiki page of Simpsons episodes doesn’t list this title. (I’ve noted that some things are very difficult to find on the net. Is that intentional or am I being paranoid?) Can anyone help?

Mega bail outs of trillions once again as the banks and corporations privatise their profits and socialise their losses. Governments are ushering in a new wave of socialism under the cover of an epidemic while the clueless masses cheer them on. They get what they deserve, just a pity that the well informed get dragged down with them too. It’s like a race to the bottom.

Went to the supermarket today, nice and early, 7:15, thought I’d be wise and beat the scramble from the hoards. Pulled into the car park and saw an orderly queue of people waiting with their trolleys 2 meters apart. Thought ‘you sad bastards’. I then went and dutifully joined my place in the queue thus instantly becoming one of the plebs, and paying attention to the strips of hazard tape on the ground ensuring everyone complied. I noted 2 women were wearing face masks, and the one nearest the door put on disposable rubber gloves. After 10 minutes queuing enough shoppers had left the store to deem it safe for the next wave to enter. We were let in one by one to the wash station, where we had to sanitize our hands and the trolley. I then made my way guided by barriers into the store. Luckily there was also hazard tape on the floor and radio broadcasts to remind me of the two meter rule. Some shelves were empty, others were half full.

This has been my first taste of communism.

All this after the dumbed down masses were out clapping and banging pans last night to cheer on our media proclaimed ‘heroes’ in the NHS at our time of need. The politicians and City of London must have been pissing themselves laughing knowing the public were gleefully accepting their new future.

Revolutions don’t often start with guns and violence, but rather governments as our savior, while the public clap and cheer on.

Next time I think I’ll just go to the Post Office for bottles of wine…

Nafeez Ahmed writes: I contacted Professor Neil Ferguson, the lead author of the Imperial College paper and a member of SAGE, about the problems identified with his paper and its underlying assumptions. He did not respond.
He did, however, surface on Twitter on 22 March, where he conceded that his model assumptions were written more than 13 years ago and based on the specific dynamics of a flu pandemic. In other words: the model was not calibrated for COVID-19 and failed to sufficiently incorporate new relevant data. According to Professor Sridhar, this is clear evidence of how the Government “messed up”.

“The simplest way to judge whether we have an exceptionally lethal disease is to look at the death rates. Are more people dying than we would expect to die anyway in a given week or month? Statistically, we would expect about 51,000 to die in Britain this month. At the time of writing, 422 deaths are linked to Covid-19 so 0.8 per cent of that expected total. On a global basis, wed expect 14 million to die over the first three months of the year. The worlds 18,944 coronavirus deaths represent 0.14 per cent of that total. These figures might shoot up but they are, right now, lower than other infectious diseases that we live with (such as flu)”. Prof John Lee, writes for the Spectator.

I appreciate that and does it not just sum things up.
Maybe a round of applause would have cheered her up? I choose to show my appreciation in a different way by paying her wages with my taxes.

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Joerg

Mar 27, 2020 9:13 AM

Here something psychological: When we discuss with our fellow citizens that we don’t believe this Corona panic most of them – even very intelligent and reasonable people – refuse to listen to us any further.

Two examples for “Overtone Window”:
1) About 10 years ago (nearly 10 years after 911) I was busy commenting on a quite good blog of a very “lefty” – if not Marxist – person. We also communicated with a lot of e-mails and by telephone. Of course he was against the wars against the Iraq and Afghanistan and so on. Of course he was against NATO and of course against George W. Bush. But when I demanded (in a discussion by telephone) that never a plane could have driven into this one side of the Pentagon he got very angry with me. The fact that no plane could have driven into the Pentagon can be proved by pictures that were made after the explosion, but before the whole wall on this side of the Pentagon came down. And these pictures show a somewhat ‘greater door’ (not more than this) – and a plane could have never have ‘sneaked’ through this – in the end – ‘little entrance-door’. Also no turbines, dead bodies, luggage, seats where found.
And my conclusion (no plane hit the Pentagon) would have been totally on the political line ( George W. bush is a liar) of this guy. But even though this guy refused my idea briskly and he got very angry with me. And only by him I heard for the first time of Thierry Meyssan, because only a few weeks after 911 Meyssan came out with a book, in which he demanded that the Pentagon could never have been hit by a plane. My blog-guy hated Thierry Meyssan, because of this conclusion.
Also when I demanded that no plane could ever had crashed at Shanksville, because the Coroner (isn’t it strange how similar the word “Coroner” is to the name of our nowadays panic-virus?) couldn’t find bodies, luggage, parts of a plane and then the Coroner simply left, this guy called my “stupid” and “absurd” .

Today this guy represents for me a typical case of “Overtone Window”

2) “Flat Earth”. I guess that let’s say 95% of people we discuss with will simply laugh and turn away as soon as you raise this topic of “Flat Earth”. And ‘by result’ they are right of course! If the earth was flat for every living creature on earth sunrise, sundown – and thus also noon – would happen at exactly the same time. But everyone of us who ever flew to a more distant place (Thailand, Sri Lanka, USA and so on), we remember that we had to adjust our watch and our alarm clock (placed on the little table next to our hotel bed) for a lot of hours.
But my point is: Yes, this idea of “Flat earth” is of course idiotic! But the fact that people don’t even oppose you (with very good arguments), but simply turn away laughing, is to me a clear case of “Overtone Window”

And now that we get bombarded with this Corona thing by government and MSM even good friends call you “crazy” if you raise doubts. Also here to me a clear case of “Overtone Window“.

The Overton Window would certainly apply to the presented political spectrum. Everyone is familiar with the “Left to Center to Right” line. The “acceptable” part of this line has been moving ever rightwards for a long time now. And when Tony Blair assumed the lead of Labour, they were practically indistinguishable from the Tories – a fact not lost on Margaret Thatcher who even referred to the shift as her greatest achievement. And it worked. Many thought – and still think – of Blair as “left”. Thus when Corbyn came along with some moderate but actual left policies, he was denounced for being an extremist!

I agree with this, some of the blogs I quite enjoy reading and contirbuting to are having people start to say that sort of thing to me. ‘I hope that you have changed your views on CoVid19’ and the like: to which I reply ‘Show me the Data to make me change my mind!’ or the like.

Data is not a BBC scaremongering article cherry picking data to maximise scaremongering. It is factual data without political manipulation.

That is very difficult in this CoVid outbreak as mere presence of virus is now deemed to be cause of death in many places. Everyone with a brain knows that is not the case.

What also gets my wick is how people claim that dying of CoVid19 is somehow worse than dying of any other number of diseases.

My grandmother died in 1973 of metastatic bone cancer, which was singularly unpleasant. I personally do not think that dying slowly of Alzheimers is the greatest prospect to look forward to. Nor is dying progressively of kidney failure. Nor is serious heart failure much fun to endure through its terminal stages.

Most people seem to forget, that we went to war based on a lie. The ones that do, blame the lone gunman, Tony Blair when the whole establishment including the third estate where rigidly behind the WMD. A massive conspiracy, that was a conspiracy theory then but is now just accepted as fact. Criminals conspired to lie to us for financial and material gain costing the deaths of 1 Million innocent people.
Again, we have WMD, Boris’s WMD…Wuhan of Mass Distruction.
If you are Christian and I am, then the heliocentric model of the solar system is not scriptural, since Joshua 10 tells us…

On the day the Lord gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to the Lord in the presence of Israel: “Sun, stand still over Gibeon and you, moon, over the Valley of Aijalon.” 13 So the sun stood still and the moon stopped till the nation avenged itself on[b] its enemies”.

Everything is lies…Science is mostly just superficially plausible nonsense that most ‘scientists’ know too but don’t speak of as their wages depend on it. Hence the concencus of those who enjoy having a roof over their heads.
Giving the current bollox, scoffing at my deductions would be somewhat…ironic.
I am a ‘no’ planes guy by the way.

I tell people they have to remember that the sun is on a rail, firmly fastened in the firmament at each end and turns off for the return trip in the dark. Explaining the rail’s arch in terms of the Golden Gate bridge or Hoover Dam adds depth.
When I travel, I don’t change my clock. I insist mine is the correct time and politely ask everyone to change theirs. This is a good exercise in observing facial expressions. When I compare these expressions to when I am telling people the truth, I find they are just about the same expressions. Almost like everyone has gone to the same Facial expression seminar.
I think you have also noticed that people are disconnected from reality. So……we might as well entertain ourselves while we are here.

it’s funny you saying this, axis… – back before this convid shit *got ‘real’* i watched the repo market blow-out last september and put my wargaming hat on:- just *what would it take* for the fuckers to keep their ponzi robbery-waggon on the road any further?…

…every path led to this conclusion: – a reality-warping re-engineering of human society itself – *planetwide*…

shortly after it struck me that we are at a historical *fulcrum*, not at all unlike the copernican revolution in cosmology which (amongst other things) overthrew the supremacy of the catholic church as a political power in europe (ie: ‘the modern world’). – go read arthur koestler’s ‘the sleepwalkers’ for an excellent lowdown on this…

– what we are (potentially) now facing is *nothing less* than a ‘cosmological’ socio-econo-political paradigm shift away from a clapped-out old nag of an all-powerful financial system which pupeteers the rest of social and political life, and which consists, at this point, *solely* of ‘epicycles’ – *all the way down*…

… srsly tho’ – there is *no such* thing in our world as an ‘overton window’… – repeat after me: – “left *is* right *is* left *is* right *is* left *is* right *is* left…” – same goes for *any* other trivially ideological dialectic you care to map out… – at this point there is *only* them and us, evil and good…