Posted by tcochran on 10/2/2012 7:11:00 PM (view original):You guys realize you pay this site to play this game right?

From the way this thread sounds it's almost like he's doing us a favor by actually doing his job.

Is there something wrong with telling a guy good job?

No, but if your business sold a pile of **** to customers and the customers were like, "oh wow really enjoyed the texture of my **** this time!" or "GREAT smell on that deuce!" then why would the business ever sell anything of value?

Posted by cydrych on 10/2/2012 9:57:00 PM (view original):So when he doesn't communicate with us, he's done run off with our money cackling into the night. But when he does communicate with us, he's just fishing for compliments?

It's not a commentary on his behavior, but on how expectations (or complete lack thereof) of customers is what allows WIS to consider GD an afterthought in terms of resources.

It's a positive thing that there is an actual developer working part-time on the game (as badaxe said) and it's a positive thing there's communication. I just don't understand how the replies in this thread can be celebrating a couple of paragraphs as if we finally have a great finished product. You guys do know that this will not be released for at least 6 months, right?

Posted by cydrych on 10/2/2012 9:57:00 PM (view original):So when he doesn't communicate with us, he's done run off with our money cackling into the night. But when he does communicate with us, he's just fishing for compliments?

Cyd, c'mon, neither A or B. It's the business and the customer response that's ridiculous.

WIS, the business, hyped 2.0, and rolled it out to paying customers, seemingly, without Beta testing. Maybe they did but it sure doesn't seem like it was appropriately tested. By most accounts, 2.0 was a train wreck. One with a defectively built train carrying lots of paying customers. Sorry about the damage folks but those tickets---non-refundable.

In the 1 or 2 years (?) since 2.0, we've learned little gems like---oh, formation (?) practice, not turned on. The draft thing, busted, we're shutting it down. I'm sure if I spent the time to look, there may or may not be other similar representations about the game. I would love to see Conte's post I recall summarizing the anatomy of a play or something like that. If there were someone with the time and talent, I would be curious whether or not any business practices/representations ran afoul of any consumer protection laws.

And then the "fix." It's a bird, it's a plane, it's 3.0. Arriving in August.sometime in the future. WIS: So stay in those train seats folks, the mechanic is working as we speak. And hold those spots. Yes, you in the back, the seats do cost the same. Yes, the reward miles are less. Yes, we're not moving forward. And, yes, we're still screeching along in the same busted train. But we're going build a new one, I promise. Until then keep paying us money, god bless and good night. And then the round of atta' boys and thunderous applause from the customers.

That, in a nutshell, is the truly amazing part. Quite frankly, I am a little embarrased that I still have teams. I just keep a sliver of grace by not saying, "thank you, thank you, thank you" while being on the receiving end of a tea bag. Just saying.

Posted by cydrych on 10/2/2012 9:57:00 PM (view original):So when he doesn't communicate with us, he's done run off with our money cackling into the night. But when he does communicate with us, he's just fishing for compliments?

Cyd, c'mon, neither A or B. It's the business and the customer response that's ridiculous.

WIS, the business, hyped 2.0, and rolled it out to paying customers, seemingly, without Beta testing. Maybe they did but it sure doesn't seem like it was appropriately tested. By most accounts, 2.0 was a train wreck. One with a defectively built train carrying lots of paying customers. Sorry about the damage folks but those tickets---non-refundable.

In the 1 or 2 years (?) since 2.0, we've learned little gems like---oh, formation (?) practice, not turned on. The draft thing, busted, we're shutting it down. I'm sure if I spent the time to look, there may or may not be other similar representations about the game. I would love to see Conte's post I recall summarizing the anatomy of a play or something like that. If there were someone with the time and talent, I would be curious whether or not any business practices/representations ran afoul of any consumer protection laws.

And then the "fix." It's a bird, it's a plane, it's 3.0. Arriving in August.sometime in the future. WIS: So stay in those train seats folks, the mechanic is working as we speak. And hold those spots. Yes, you in the back, the seats do cost the same. Yes, the reward miles are less. Yes, we're not moving forward. And, yes, we're still screeching along in the same busted train. But we're going build a new one, I promise. Until then keep paying us money, god bless and good night. And then the round of atta' boys and thunderous applause from the customers.

That, in a nutshell, is the truly amazing part. Quite frankly, I am a little embarrased that I still have teams. I just keep a sliver of grace by not saying, "thank you, thank you, thank you" while being on the receiving end of a tea bag. Just saying.

A very concise history of GD 2.0, and the WIS response--completely agree.

...and it is exactly why we need to be so appreciative of Norbert's efforts. Doubtless, he is the game's savoir, and by the shining light of his sacrifice, all of our coaching careers will be born again! Hallelujah!!! Thank you, Norbert, my personal pretend-computer-football Jesus! I feel better already....blinded by irrational hope, and I'm sure that is what all of this is really about.