6'8" is a little tall for DT. You also need to look at him. He is a lean 315. And we will be playing some 3-4 and 3-3-5 this year.

The guy is a 3-4 DE so people see DE and assume that is what he is. His utility would be if we go 3-4 like you said or on the inside if we stay 4-3 maybe in passing situations. I suppose in a pinch he could play strong side DE but don't see him being that effective rushing the passer.

At DE we have one solid starter in Morgan and a rotational starter in Wimbley. So either we are going to start playing a bunch of 3-4 looks where Wimbley is more of an OLB or we need another full time DE.

DE's are always a gamble and we're solid right now at the spot IMO. Morgan and Wimbley both played well last season and we've brought in some rotational guys to help them carry the load. It's not an area of need IMO. It's a luxury position. Would be nice to have another DE, but not neccessary.

I guess your argument could be made for DE with my justification for DT. But I think DT and CB are bigger needs than DE.

I consider DE and DT about equal needs. But that's just me. I'm thinking we have two young DTs with lots of potential in Casey and Martin. On the other hand, I don't see Morgan and Wimbley getting much better. Morgan could get better but I don't think he'll ever be a truly dominant DE. And Wimbley is entering his 8th year so I think we've already seen his ceiling.

I'd be thrilled if we addressed either position with the 10th pick. We need a legit, consistent playmaker on the DL regardless of which position it comes from.

He has rare size, speed, and explosion that will let him separate but those aren't the whole picture when it comes to production. How well can he grasp the play book, how much time will he put into getting better and refining his routes because the natural athleticism is not in question its the other intangibles.

No doubt about it, that's why I asked if the grade was just off measurables. He's got great size, speed, vert... he's a "workout warrior" if you will. His highlight film is great, but all his flaws will be exposed even more in the NFL. Route running is everything, theres not many receivers in this league who can run terrible routes and still get catches; were talking Calvin, Fitz, Julio, AJ Green, etc... even then most of them are still good route runners.

Patterson is very raw, but could easily be the next big receiver; or the next no-name wasted 1st round pick. Darius Heyward-Bey was the same thing. Projected late-1st, had a great combine, people became amazed and he went early. Although, Al Davis/Raiders are part to blame.

Seems timid going across the middle of the yield; and going up to grab a ball. You can tell he's thinking about the safety coming over top, and not catching the ball. Not a huge deal, just something I noticed.

Seems timid going across the middle of the yield; and going up to grab a ball. You can tell he's thinking about the safety coming over top, and not catching the ball. Not a huge deal, just something I noticed.

Ok, I just wanted to hear your explaination. Everything I've read states nearly the opposite. That he is in fact very physical. I've noticied him to be very difficult to tackle once he has the ball in his hands. He's not easy to bring down and he does not stop moving his legs in an attempt to pick up more yardage. Not exactly the traits of your typical timid reciever. Now before the catch entirely, you may be right, but its the first I've heard of that, and I would consider it surprising given the style he plays once he has the ball in his hands.

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