On 16/03/2011 PDRM wrote:>On 16/03/2011 Butters81 wrote:>>Motorbikes are unsafe because of people in cars. This is something over>>which you have zero control.>>There's not much in climbing you have zero control over.>>Avalanches, rockfall, etc. ? Control by minimizing exposure, same as a>lot of things.

That's why I said not much
So in the case of a motorbike, you control your risk by minimising your exposure to cars... which would explain why I'm quite happy to ride a trail-bike

On 16/03/2011 Butters81 wrote:>Motorbikes are unsafe because of people in cars. This is something over>which you have zero control.>There's not much in climbing you have zero control over.

There is also perceived danger vs real danger, and there have been studies that show young people are not good at recognizing consequences of risky activities. I personally think you should feel invincible when you are young.

There are many more reasons motorbikes are far more unsafe than cars. Other drivers in cars play a large part but certainly not the only reason they are dangerous. The smallest accident on a bike can have very serious consequences for the rider. The most obvious one to me is in the wet, particularly oil patches.

I love riding so much more than driving but I wont be buying a roadbike again for a while I think.