1. and 2. Never noticed any.... have average 20-30 sfs loaded on pentium 3 machines and runs as expected. The union seems to have no penalty...if there is its more to do with decompressing the contents of the sfs.. If the sfs are loaded to ram as I do then that more than compensates for any slowdown.

3. thats depends on how they are built. If they are built for a particular system then duplication would be avoided same as a pet/deb and so on. If there is the odd duplicated library its of no consequence.

4. Thats more to do with construction.. An app can have its own library versions if system variables are used to point to them. So not an sfs feature as such. The files are layered transparently into one filesystem...which is the idea.

5. The cleaness depends on if you have a save system like a save file. But definately clean in so far as removal is always 100%...good for testing and updating. I happen to use a sfs for saves on puppy.

6. Not sure really.... not useable in a full install but as it turns out even that is possible. sfs versions are not backward compatible..ie one made for system x will not load for an older one even though the software inside might actually work.

Slax might be an interesting one to look at... the full system layering approach you will see in there ...

Hi all;
Now fullscreen of my Opera doesn't freeze LazyPuppy anymore.
Click the preference, click the max button on top, click OK and then remaster LazyPuppy. The new OS will free Opera harmfullness to LazyPuppy. But it's not 100% functioning, you can't leave fullscreen with F11 but only with the right click menu. Then you have to right click the Opera button on the task bar and select the Move menu._________________Many bad aliens live in the high building (~50 fl.), some decoration around the top. Near Time Square?

7 giant UFOs, ~10 km long. will perform the next Exodus at the top major cities. No disc type, but funny design which can make U smile or laugh.

Thanks to the last saviour for the tips to Nathan's Wallpaper Setter and for the use of Opera.

matiasbatero wrote:

Maybe, someone can answer my basic questions:

1) What is the impact of the speed of the app, using SFS in comparation with a normal installation using a classic package manager? I read that sfs uses unionfs to mount programs in layers. And i don't know, if this mode have impact on speed.. (global and/or in the app).

2) Similar to the first point, if you have 14 SFS running at the same time, there is a lost of speed?

4) SFS's system, can allow to use multiple versions of apps, with no-conflicts?

5) SFS' seems that system is always clean. Like a first fresh installation always... it is ok??

5) Finally, what are the limitations of SFS, and advantages or disadvantages?? Because, from my point of view, there are 90% advantages, and 10% of ... not very important disadvantages..

Really, at this point, SFS seems to me, a "revolutionary package method".

Thanks to mikeb for answering already to these questions.

Just want to add a Note.

I do use all my Applications generally from SFS Modules, which are sized from 4096 B (yes, byte) up to 587 MB. My OS is currently at 144 MB. I had already up to 65 Modules loaded at a time and the OS was running 16 days in a row without to do a reboot. Never noticed a loss of speed or anything else that might have minimized the comfort of this method.

I don't use a save file and if I want to have something permanently saved, I do either edit the SFS Module or remaster the OS or use my Personal Data and Config SFS Manager, which is something similar to mikeb's SFS-Save-File (I happen to use a sfs for saves on puppy.)

matiasbatero wrote:

I really like this method..

Yes, me too!

And therefor -I think- I do have some good news for all

- who do like this method
- who are using LazY Puppy and missing its comfort when forced to use any other Puppy

Just drag and drop a SFS Module onto the SARA B. Application and it will create a SARA R.S.D., which stays for:

(S)tand (A)lone (R)ox (A)pp (R)un (S)cript (D)irectory.

The created SARA R.S.D. Applications are much more functional than the RunScripts used in LazY Puppy 2.0.2-005 and makes any user able to use the LazY Puppy Method in almost any Puppy - no need to do a remaster, because they are Stand Alone Rox Apps, running from everywhere (EXT or NTFS).

RSH,
Glad to see you are back. Been a while myself.
Got an old IBM Think Pad G40 from a friend with just a 20GB hard drive and 512MB of RAM (will be expanding soon).
Was planning on putting Lazy Puppy on a 16GB micro SD card to use with it. This way I can still use the Windows OS for Windows proprietary software.

Thanks again for all the time and effort you have put into Lazy Puppy and the time spent answering my questions.

Was planning on putting Lazy Puppy on a 16GB micro SD card to use with it. This way I can still use the Windows OS for Windows proprietary software.

Good to hear, that the use of LazY Puppy is still an option by users.

AndyOpie150 wrote:

Thanks again for all the time and effort you have put into Lazy Puppy and the time spent answering my questions.

Once you get Lazy, you can't go back.

Thank you very much and also to smokey01 for still hosting the files.

But, please keep in mind:

- I was completely new to Linux, as I started this
- My only Linux experience was the use of Muppy 08.3F for about a year right before that only as a user
- My knowledge on Bash programming was also below zero

So, because of all of this, and since I'm developing in DE and then turning it into EN, there may be some very very small issues existing, which will mostly result from my (still) newbie-state.

Thanks to the community I was able and allowed to do this all - which means: no community, no LazY Puppy...

This "snowy" Video Window of Openshot usually appears when using LazY Puppy's Openshot SFS Module in other Puppies. It is usually a result of missing codecs in the used different Puppy Version._________________LazY PuppyRSH's DNASARA B.

Posted: Sat 08 Mar 2014, 19:00 Post subject:
Lazy Puppy 2.0.2Subject description: Wow, what a concept! Hey, fellow puppy linux lovers, you have to take this distro for a ride.

RSH wrote:

AndyOpie150 wrote:

Was planning on putting Lazy Puppy on a 16GB micro SD card to use with it. This way I can still use the Windows OS for Windows proprietary software.

Good to hear, that the use of LazY Puppy is still an option by users.

AndyOpie150 wrote:

Thanks again for all the time and effort you have put into Lazy Puppy and the time spent answering my questions.

Once you get Lazy, you can't go back.

Thank you very much and also to smokey01 for still hosting the files.

But, please keep in mind:

- I was completely new to Linux, as I started this
- My only Linux experience was the use of Muppy 08.3F for about a year right before that only as a user
- My knowledge on Bash programming was also below zero

So, because of all of this, and since I'm developing in DE and then turning it into EN, there may be some very very small issues existing, which will mostly result from my (still) newbie-state.

Thanks to the community I was able and allowed to do this all - which means: no community, no LazY Puppy...

Enjoying this Lazy Pup. Very different than other derivatives in the way you can use sfs files. Great concept! Always trying out different derivatives, but this one has really caught my attention. Amazing what you have achieved with this RSH. This one takes a little time to learn, but the time is well spent. Everything just works! Hey everyone, if you haven't checked this one out, I highly recommend you do so. Thanks RSH, truly a work of art here, beautiful derivative. Sticking with this one, so innovative.

Enjoying this Lazy Pup. Very different than other derivatives in the way you can use sfs files. Great concept! Always trying out different derivatives, but this one has really caught my attention. Amazing what you have achieved with this RSH. This one takes a little time to learn, but the time is well spent. Everything just works! Hey everyone, if you haven't checked this one out, I highly recommend you do so. Thanks RSH, truly a work of art here, beautiful derivative. Sticking with this one, so innovative.

Lieber Herr RSH;
Recently I'd found that GNome player need monitor with 24 bit driver, otherwise it won't work. I got problem with it > a year, what a fool I am. Sorry if somebody had reported this problem.

JWildFire 1.6 was released, very good one. But it prefers Java V.7 not V.6.
http://www.andreas-maschke.com/?page_id=351

I'd read the intro in your Sara B whick is very impressive, but I think I read some kind of this document before. Do you use any template to create that intro? Otherwise you can be a writer.

I'm awaiting for your new Puppy with KDE & Dolphin. Hope you will interest to make this release soon.
Thank you._________________Many bad aliens live in the high building (~50 fl.), some decoration around the top. Near Time Square?

7 giant UFOs, ~10 km long. will perform the next Exodus at the top major cities. No disc type, but funny design which can make U smile or laugh.

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