20 minutes for LEO

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Agreed Andrew 25 minutes was pretty good all things considered and that was to their credit timed from the time I dialed 911 to arrival. The 911 call itself took up ~ 4 minutes in conversation time with the operator wishing to reconfirm who I a, my own physical address, as well as that of my neighbor who is directly across the street.

Even still if say it were my own home on fire or I was being assaulted by a BG or had called upon being assaulted and was bleeding out on my porch...I'd have been toast unless during that :25 countdown I had tools & techniques available and thought to save myself until the cavalry and/or Superman arrived.

I am surprised though by the OPs post that the policeman rolled up to his door nonchalantly with such a call for help. That's not good at all.

Easy to fix the response times folks. Tax increases, say to the tune of 60&#37; increase should fit the bill. Take the other 40% of what you have left for our education system, and we should have crime and all other social issues solved. Then, of course we could all feel better and safer.
Where I live it took 45 minutes to get to the 911 across the street, rural. Lock and load..

In my home town, our fire department which my dad was on, all volunteer, so they actually had to drive from their houses to the fire station, had like a average of like 4 min from call to leaving the station, then it would range from 2 minutes to 10 depending on where you lived in the area. I always thought it was funny, one day an ambulance guy was talking to some guys and told them they should actually wait until the ambulance left for like car crashes and stuff where they get called out to......and he was serious. The ambulance service took like 10 minutes to get 2 or 3 people down to the station the minimum for them to leave. I was in disbelief in what I heard, and I was like 12 at the time. What stupid idea, lets just give them no help instead of some. They were all trained in basics so Its not like they would break anything else on the person hurt.

The police are really good, I have never had to call them or anything, but I know that one time my mom dropped the phone when she was cleaning and it hit the speed dial for the 911, she just picked it up and put it back, she didn't know it dialed anyone, and in about 10 minutes a officer was at the door, and I remember seeing him looking about from the door, making sure no one was there that shouldn't be. I must have been like 6 or something. I thought it was a good time, although our town only takes like 5 minutes to go from edge to edge.

We had a situation at my moms house last year. My brother still lived at my moms house at this time, in a rural area about half a mile out of town, approx 3 miles away from the police station. We came home from playing golf, when we noticed a car tailgating us. Pulling into the driveway, the car stopped in front of our driveway, one guy got out and walked towards the driveway, but they took of when they saw me leaving the car. According to my brother, those clowns where the same guys who stalked and actually threadened my brother and his friends with a rifle some days ago.

Our Parents were not at home, so i grabbed my stepdads shotgun and positioned myself behind the front door. My brother called 911 at this time (i know for a fact that 911 is/was routed to the local sheriffs office in that county). The car came back about 15 minutes later, pulled into the driveway, the same guy got out of the car, holding a rifle in his hands. I opened the screen door, pointed the shotgun and yelled "GET OUT OF HERE!". At this time, my brother called 911 a second time, reporting that these guys had a rifle and that they pulled into the driveway, threadening us. They told him that they will send someone over...

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... about 30 minutes later, with me still standing at the front door, waiting for these clowns to come back, we were still waiting for a LEO to show up. So my brother called in a 3rd time, asking where the LEOs are - they answered "We already told you we will send someone over!" and hung up on him!

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...another 30 minutes later, at this time we were waiting about 1 1/2 hours, i finally called a friend of my parents who is working as a dispatcher for the sheriffs office and told her the whole story. She was pretty upset about the fact that no one showed up yet. She made another call and guess what. 2 Cops showed up 5 minutes later. Everything turned out fine, they eventually caught these clowns. Turned out they were "just" stupid kids doing some dumb bulls, they kept them at the police station and called the parents to pick them up. Still, it could have been a way worse situation. I wonder what a cop does when he shows up, finding a murdered family about 2 hours later

If your home has been invaded by a nut case bent on murder, it doesn't matter if the LEOs show up in two minutes or twenty. If you can't defend yourself, you are done in a few ticks of the clock.

I think I read somewhere that the average police response time is seven minutes and the average act of violence is seven seconds.

The saying: "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away" is not a knock on law enforcement. These hard working men and women are spread too thin to be 24/7 bodyguards for each and every citizen.

Ditto that in a forced entry scenario or home invasion one minute can be an eternity. In a violent home invasion a 5 minute response time might as well BE an hour.
There is no substitute for the ability to defend your own.

2 weeks ago I call adjoining county to ask about a traffic accident report, this was right at noon and the dispatcher informed me that no deputy would be on duty til 6:00 pm, call back then. Boy that instilled confidence if a problem was to arise.