I didn't want to get into this but was forced to do so. I have a 1968 Eagle that is #7600. I have owned it for 21 years and have put 172,000 miles on the Coach. That is more than most ten of you have put on your buses. I took mine to the core before it was converted and replaced all the bad steel. I have had 3 engines in it during this time and it has been on some of the worest rodes in this country, Mexico and Canada. I drive lots of other buses, they all rust when they get old.If I were going to convert another one it would still be a Eagle. That should say enough.Jack

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I'm just saying that every time an Eagle comes up you start slamming them immediately, you must have your panties in a wad and your shorts hiked up, you sure do get upset when an Eagle person asks a question, you bring up the rust issue.

I want to know how you get all your knowledge about buses when your 38 years old and you've been doing buses for 30 years. When someone is buying an MCI or other buses you never seem to jump in about the rust, you just cut down the Eagles, I'm not saying anything bad about MCI's, or any other brands, yes we all have rust issues.I'm just making a point. I respect people who own all kinds of buses, that's their freedom of choice.

This is my last post on this subject lets all sit around the campfire, roast marshmallows and talk about other issues.

Pete FANTASY

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WHAT EVER YOU DO, OR TO WHO YOU DO IT TOO, DO IT WITH A SMILE, IT MAKES IT LEGAL THAT WAY.

I don;t think I come accross as being angry or upset when Eagles or discussed.......seems like a defensive knee jerk reaction from the mother of an ugly baby....LOL and lets be honest...there are some ugly babies out there...and I am sure they are wonderful people and their mothers love them to no end.......but they are still ugly ( my politically incorrect statement for the week

HHMMMm 30 years of bus experience comes from being forced into child labor at age 8 (1978) for the Families Charter Bus business, In fact I probably have more time under a bus than most on this board

now if you overly sensative eagle guys would read my post in entirety ( not only the ones that relate to eagles, I do point out issues with other brands....unless they were already commented on. Generally on MCI, Nick or someone beats me to the punch.....and unlike some people I generally read prior posts before replying as not to be redundant.

I forget if it was this board or the other but after my initial post on Flxible rust, I emailed the prospective buyer directly with a more in depth disclosure.

as for GM's.....My exerience started with the 4104 which my family purchased in 1977 and I just sold last year. with me personally owning it for the last 6.

As for the family, We have outright owned the following coaches in order:

Furthermore I have hands on experience in late model Prevost as well as MCI's.

As I said earlier.....when someone brings up eagle....their major flaw ( which most eagle owners admit to) is Rust.Most people are not the type who want to by a vehicle of any type with a major rust issue.There are a few who don;t care because they are OK with rebuilding from the ground up.....or doing major rebuilding.

MCI's do have rust issues: Rear suspension structure Bulkheads on both sides of the rears Structure holding up the radiator blowers And yes the verticle members of the walls which is evidenced by wavy sides as well as a few other indicators.

now in all my years of being around buses Eagles are the only ones ( yes there have been several) that will rain rust when you give them love taps.

Oh yeah, my Eagle experience: Never owned one, and have never worked on one myself, have been under and around many just to loook, a neighboring comany we used to lease from operated Eagles, so I have their experience second hand, there are several Eagles who used to get work done at the same place that does most of my maint today...one of which was asked not to come back because of it's condition (rust wise)

small Kudo to eagle on this last one: despite being able to make rust rain anywhere on the bus.....it was said that this bus would motor down the highway like it was brand new......which is a testiment to the torsilastic suspension design.

What I read! This Eagle look great for a '68 coach...And I understand this guy. I am in the same situation (divorce) but my coach is payed. For the rust, my coach is a '82 and he has rust. It's not a problem. It's not major anyway. Find a coach in north america whitout rust is impossible. Winter is terrific for all vehicule drive on the road with salt and sand...As I cannot buy a ''new'' coach (recent) my coach do the job...with his rust...under the chassis.

(In december, I was in New Mexico for 2 weeks. My new girlfriend lives in Albuquerque. I saw on the I-25, exit 259, a beautiful Prevost parked a long side of the house. Is the owner participated on this forum? If yes...I would like sending him a message by e-mail...)lemiragequebec@hotmail.com

A curmudgeon's reputation for malevolence is undeserved. They're neither warped nor evil at heart. They don't hate mankind, just mankind's absurdities. They're just as sensitive and soft-hearted as the next guy, but they hide their vulnerability beneath a crust of misanthropy.

finding a rust free bus is not hard at all, you just have to know where to look and who to ask. I have seen buses that have spent their entire commercial life in the rust belt and didn;t have any corrosion worth metioning.

And you can certainly go to the south or southwest and find coaches with no corrosion.

you can also find many that are so bad off if inspected by DOT they would be deemed unsafe to operate on public roads.

As a proud owner of my Eagle for 9 years I can say that anyone looking to buy an Eagle needs to be made aware of the possible rust issues. I knew about it going in, but also knew that I could make whatever repairs that I needed. If someone does not have access to a welding shop or can do their own welding, they need to inspect any Eagle very closely. Most of all of our damage was in the wheel wells and we have completely rebuilt all four (I have the single axle Suburban model Eagle). Also had to replace the bay area where the A/C units where located. I would want to know about any common issues about any bus I was thinking of purchasing especially if I was not prepared to do major work on it. I have seen several buses that were purchased and conversions built on a platform that was not stable or even safe. I am glad that I went into this hobby educated by those on these boards willing to share their experience. My money is too hard to come by.Tom Hamrick1984 Eagle 10S