This guy will be the bust of this draft he will be average at best and before everyone starts complaining lets look at him real quick

Doesn't get off the ball quickly, doesn't have great speed off the corner, average size at best. His play recognition needs a lot of work and he leaves the run to the outside open way too much. I mean people can praise him on his work ethic and high motor but against NFL OTs he will be destroyed. He isn't a Elite type of player at all and projecting him in the top 5 would mean there are people who think he is elite...

This guy will be the bust of this draft he will be average at best and before everyone starts complaining lets look at him real quick

Doesn't get off the ball quickly, doesn't have great speed off the corner, average size at best. His play recognition needs a lot of work and he leaves the run to the outside open way too much. I mean people can praise him on his work ethic and high motor but against NFL OTs he will be destroyed. He isn't a Elite type of player at all and projecting him in the top 5 would mean there are people who think he is elite...

He did have 3.5 sacks against Florida, which is half a sack more than entire defenses averaged against Florida during the season.

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Brilliant letting one of Scott Pioli's henchmen have his own team to ruin. One of the premier GM jobs in the NFL and it gets handed to a stupid **** who makes three facepalm moves for every good one. Awesome. Just like handing a new Mercedes to a 16 year old girl who's already been in three wrecks.

This guy will be the bust of this draft he will be average at best and before everyone starts complaining lets look at him real quick

Doesn't get off the ball quickly, doesn't have great speed off the corner, average size at best. His play recognition needs a lot of work and he leaves the run to the outside open way too much. I mean people can praise him on his work ethic and high motor but against NFL OTs he will be destroyed. He isn't a Elite type of player at all and projecting him in the top 5 would mean there are people who think he is elite...

His first step and speed around the edge is actually pretty elite...maybe the best in this class. The problem is that's ALL he has.

This guy will be the bust of this draft he will be average at best and before everyone starts complaining lets look at him real quick

Doesn't get off the ball quickly, doesn't have great speed off the corner, average size at best. His play recognition needs a lot of work and he leaves the run to the outside open way too much. I mean people can praise him on his work ethic and high motor but against NFL OTs he will be destroyed. He isn't a Elite type of player at all and projecting him in the top 5 would mean there are people who think he is elite...

Not sure how much credibility there is there when you have a picture of Blaine Gabbert staring us in the face.

At times i would watch Werner and wonder what the big deal is then he'd show up and make a play to turn the game around. I think we have to keep in mind he is relatively new at the game of football.

This guy will be the bust of this draft he will be average at best and before everyone starts complaining lets look at him real quick

Doesn't get off the ball quickly, doesn't have great speed off the corner, average size at best. His play recognition needs a lot of work and he leaves the run to the outside open way too much. I mean people can praise him on his work ethic and high motor but against NFL OTs he will be destroyed. He isn't a Elite type of player at all and projecting him in the top 5 would mean there are people who think he is elite...

Seriously??? Those are both strengths of his.

Oh it's ok, I see high motor and work ethic, which was taken from the scouting report of EVERY SINGLE WHITE PLAYER OF ALL TIME

Oh it's ok, I see high motor and work ethic, which was taken from the scouting report of EVERY SINGLE WHITE PLAYER OF ALL TIME

That is awesome, and so true.

I don't like his abillity to bend around the corner, I think he is schematically limited and will have a hard time transitioning his game at the next level where I don't believe he has the elite athleticism to rely on.

Not sure how much credibility there is there when you have a picture of Blaine Gabbert staring us in the face.

At times i would watch Werner and wonder what the big deal is then he'd show up and make a play to turn the game around. I think we have to keep in mind he is relatively new at the game of football.

You hit the nail on the head, he is relatively new to the game of football and his best years are still ahead of him. I'd describe him as a non stop motor with high end potential and a likely top 10 pick.

He reminds me of Derrick Morgan. Morgan is a very solid player who suffered from an unlucky ACL injury, but in the end, he still probably was never a guy with potential for 10+ sacks year in and year out. You have to get that out of a guy you take top 5-10

He reminds me of Derrick Morgan. Morgan is a very solid player who suffered from an unlucky ACL injury, but in the end, he still probably was never a guy with potential for 10+ sacks year in and year out. You have to get that out of a guy you take top 5-10

If this thread has taught me anything is that he's a high motor guy who quits on plays all of the time, and his only strengths are his amazing burst and quickness, which isn't really that good...Basically the next wOsi.

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Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.

It is interesting that at times during his career at Florida State he was viewed as the third best DE prospect on the team and now(after injuries to Brandon Jenkins and Tank Carradine) he is projected by many as a top 5 pick.

As an FSU and Jaguars fan I am uneasy with so many people mocking him to the Jags at the #2. But more than anything it makes me think that a couple teams are going to get bargains on Jenkins and Carradine. Both of these guys are being overlooked by too many in internet scouting world.