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Fair enough. I'm really gutted on how short this League is. The League is the whole point of Ash travelling to each region and the leagues are always my favourite part of each saga.

Same I wish we would get a big league 10 episodes worth atleast but it seems they won't ever do that, and now they had time not like Sinnoh that they had to rush it because the new generation was coming(even then they made extremelly dumb decisions).

Originally Posted by G50

It does mention something about Snivy... though I'm not sure what.

Well Snivy and Oshawott are most likelly here, because of that game and because they haven't battled yet.

Worse, 1, 2 or even 3 pokemon will lose and get Torterra treatment in the league, aka losing without a win.

Snivy and Unfezant got recent wins so they migth make them lose due to that.

Originally Posted by Haunter227

Not true at all.

I loved the Kanto League even if Ash did place fairly low.

Well for a faster paced series BW definetly did a better job in all aspects compared to Kanto though.

Let's think, please. We know N will appear at Unova league (we've seen some pictures about that, where we can see the battle field and N with Pikachu, if I don't remember bad). In 17th we know N will appear, but maybe at the second part of the episode, when Ash has been defeated by Virgil and the winner is being awarded.

So, it would be this:

10th: first half, Ash defeats Kotetsu. Second half, Ash VS Virgil.
17th: first half, Ash is defeated by Virgil. Second half, we see Virgil losing and the fat guy being presented as the winner of the tournament. At the same time, they meet N and say goodbye to Stephan, Bianca and the others.

What scares me is the word "conclusion". Maybe it only reffers to the end of the battle between Ash and Kotetsu, but maybe he really loses... I only want to have hope. The writers are really crazy.

Back then, who believed that on of the biggest battles in the Unova league will be between Pikachu and a Lucario.

Also, I remember that before the Sinnoh league started, there was a battle between Pikachu and Lucario in the opening (The Greatest -Everyday), and then people thought that we're gonna get a battle of the two in the Sinnoh league. Maybe it was a hint for the Unova league?

In snow, the pure white coat covering its body obscures it from predators.Dewgong

I'm feeling So angry right now !!!
Not only Ash didn't won any Tournament , Writer didn't bother to let him properly battle Virgil.
I thought that Writer atleast make up for everything in the League but I guess its too much to expect since writer give dam care to Ash and his fan !
I guess we really are garbage !

I'm feeling So angry right now !!!
Not only Ash didn't won any Tournament , Writer didn't bother to let him properly battle Virgil.
I thought that Writer atleast make up for everything in the League but I guess its too much to expect since writer give dam care to Ash and his fan !
I guess we really are garbage !

There is a chance that he could battle Virgil though, but it would probably be quick.

Anyway, Ash has never won the league, I don't see why he would've won this league either, but that's just me. :/

I understand the fast pace of Best Wishes 1 & 2, but not the league ... Seriously, 2 more episodes were needed to close everything ... I hope N's castle appears (with or without N himself) because the league seems too rushed

I understand the fast pace of Best Wishes 1 & 2, but not the league ... Seriously, 2 more episodes were needed to close everything ... I hope N's castle appears (with or without N himself) because the league seems too rushed

As far as we know, that won't happen. They will ordinarily leave the League, then eventually run into N in the way to the White Ruins.

I think this proves that ash's team wasn't ready for the league, he did better in sinnoh and hoenn

OMG aha.

Ash made it to Top 8 in Hoenn and he is in Top 8 this time around too. Are you saying Hoenn team wasn't ready too? Seriously biased fans at their best.

On Topic: Don't you people find the title little strange. How can Lucario vs Pikachu be Unova League Conclusion? It is a Top 8 battle. They could very well mean it is conclusion for Ash but that would sound a inappropriate because league is for everyone.
And who is to say that the league can't end on Jan 17? It could take up like 5-7 minutes from that episode where Ash loses to Virgil who goes on to win the tournament. They have done it before.

On Topic: Don't you people find the title little strange. How can Lucario vs Pikachu be Unova League Conclusion? It is a Top 8 battle. They could very well mean it is conclusion for Ash but that would sound a inappropriate because league is for everyone.
And who is to say that the league can't end on Jan 17? It could take up like 5-7 minutes from that episode where Ash loses to Virgil who goes on to win the tournament. They have done it before.

Exactly this!

I agree that it should go down like that and I really hope it does.

Originally Posted by HoennDreamer

I agree, the only one here who was stupid enough to think ash would win, is cybercubed....

Although ash finishing 8th is pretty bad, the writers are basically admitting his team isn't strong enough to go any further.

Well he finished 8th before, so did they admit it for the other leagues as well?

On Topic: Don't you people find the title little strange. How can Lucario vs Pikachu be Unova League Conclusion? It is a Top 8 battle. They could very well mean it is conclusion for Ash but that would sound a inappropriate because league is for everyone.
And who is to say that the league can't end on Jan 17? It could take up like 5-7 minutes from that episode where Ash loses to Virgil who goes on to win the tournament. They have done it before.

The League is more likely to end now, since the title itself says it's the conclusion. I think we'll probably see Ash vs Kotetsu and then a) Kotetsu beats Ash and we quickly see some of the remaining fights and the League's end; b) Ash beats Kotetsu then gets defeated lightning-fast by the next opponent and we see the League's end.

Ash made it to Top 8 in Hoenn and he is in Top 8 this time around too. Are you saying Hoenn team wasn't ready too? Seriously biased fans at their best.

On Topic: Don't you people find the title little strange. How can Lucario vs Pikachu be Unova League Conclusion? It is a Top 8 battle. They could very well mean it is conclusion for Ash but that would sound a inappropriate because league is for everyone.
And who is to say that the league can't end on Jan 17? It could take up like 5-7 minutes from that episode where Ash loses to Virgil who goes on to win the tournament. They have done it before.

or this episode could feature ten minutes of Ash vs Kot before a short Virgil vs ???? and an even shorter Virgil vs whoever in the final

I would love if this is the conclusion. With his horrid team he shouldn't even have gotten top 32. This is perfect.~

Aw come on Dax, some of his Pokemon aren't that bad(if you meant when it comes down to strength), I believe.

Originally Posted by HoennDreamer

Yep, Although ash should have won the league in sinnoh, his team was beyond capable off that.

Maybe, but he did go up against someone with 2 legendaries and maybe more. Plus, at least Ash beat someone who probably never had to use his second Pokemon, since it was sort of implied that he always used Darkrai to defeat his opponents.

If the league actually ends here, I hope that the winner ends up being Virgil and not that Imotaro kid.

Maybe, but he did go up against someone with 2 legendaries and maybe more. Plus, at least Ash beat someone who probably never had to use his second Pokemon, since it was sort of implied that he always used Darkrai to defeat his opponents.

If the league actually ends here, I hope that the winner ends up being Virgil and not that Imotaro kid.

Wished tobias never existed, ash was clearly the best in that league, second best if you count tobias..

Anyways i hope virgil wins to, i have a feeling this battle might end up in a tie.

If we go by the title, it means that Pikachu battles Lucario and maybe beat it. If it does, I'll be very angry since Pikachu already beats two of Kotetsu's Pokemon. They really let Pikachu handle all the league battles.

In snow, the pure white coat covering its body obscures it from predators.Dewgong

is the title of the anime is called conclusion League vs pikachu lucario is the final battle as Kotetsu trip went further than this league is obvious that Kotetsu would have 2 episodes to decide his future in the league, we instead have ash vs virgil, only which is the most beautiful ash beat Kotetsu with a lucario, than winning the Kotetsu with a Riolu, and no doubt that is capable of defeating pikachu lucario why yes he can beat lucario and advance to the semi finals

Wished tobias never existed, ash was clearly the best in that league, second best if you count tobias..

Anyways i hope virgil wins to, i have a feeling this battle might end up in a tie.

Wait, what would happen in the event of a tie?

Originally Posted by IcySealeo

If we go by the title, it means that Pikachu battles Lucario and maybe beat it. If it does, I'll be very angry since Pikachu already beats two of Kotetsu's Pokemon. They really let Pikachu handle all the league battles.