It would also be helpful to summarize the basic differences between this pack and the other popular options, ie why did you create this pack? Why weren't the others meeting your needs? Making this pack just to prove you can make one is perfectly fine as far as it goes, but why should anyone else use it?

i've downloaded and will try on a virtualbox install...
might be several days before i can test it out...

i *HIGHLY* applaud having MORE than "just two" options to pick from as far as update packs go...

i've been toying around with creating my own also...
but so far the furthest i've gotten is creating my own IE8 and WMP11 "merged" addon...

one of the things that has always "bugged me" about this site is the whole mentality of "we already have a public update pack, why create your own?"...

but what bugs me even more is that when you go to a link that "discusses" the 'differences' between the public releases, you land on a page talking about releases that haven't been around for YEARS... why is that post even HERE, dated 2006 and at the TOP as if it were "important" or something...

long story short (too late?), i wish MORE people would post their "look what i made" update packs...

but yes, also a brief description of what makes it different from the "other two"...

i'm from the "camp" that believes one of these days we will wake up and read a post from "the two" saying they've "moved on", where would that leave us?

so yeah, let's ENCOURAGE *ALL* the "look what i made" update packs from those that have learned the know-how to create one...

bphlpt wrote:It would also be helpful to summarize the basic differences between this pack and the other popular options, ie why did you create this pack? Why weren't the others meeting your needs? Making this pack just to prove you can make one is perfectly fine as far as it goes, but why should anyone else use it?

long-lurker wrote:
but yes, also a brief description of what makes it different from the "other two"...

hi
be patient because i am busy now
and i answered you in wincert
here is the answer
i used to intgrate xable update pack
but it stopped since 12/12/2012
so i wanted to make my own pack which has high priority updates
and all other updates have hotfixs which not very important

long-lurker wrote:one of the things that has always "bugged me" about this site is the whole mentality of "we already have a public update pack, why create your own?"...

It's just a hazing directed at new guys posting their own stuff. No big deal. You learn to shrug it off and move on. You should have heard the howling and screaming when I first started posting my stuff here. Once they get to know the member here at RVM it's business as usual. You create something, you post it. Like you said "The more, the merrier". Nobody ever died from having multiple choices..............

By downloading an ELiTE Switchless Installer Addon you, the End User, agree to abide by any Terms of Use prescribed by the Freeware App contained within.

Nowhere in this thread have I said anything about not wanting or needing another option when it comes to either Apps or Update Packs. I only ask for it to be clarified as to how the new option is different than other options that are available. Dream World has stated that his update pack is high priority updates only, similar to the old xable pack which does not seem to be updated anymore. That seems to be a valid reason to make this pack. I'm not familiar enough with either this pack or u_h's pack to know what the exact differences are between them, but I believe they are different based on that explanation. Once this pack is stabilized, perhaps it would be interesting to see a chart showing the differences between this pack, u_h's and OnePiece's pack, for the user's information.

long-lurker wrote:one of the things that has always "bugged me" about this site is the whole mentality of "we already have a public update pack, why create your own?"...

It's just a hazing directed at new guys posting their own stuff. No big deal. You learn to shrug it off and move on. You should have heard the howling and screaming when I first started posting my stuff here. Once they get to know the member here at RVM it's business as usual. You create something, you post it. Like you said "The more, the merrier". Nobody ever died from having multiple choices..............

I Agree with you
another thing:
i have my special way to get the hotfixs that windows need
so users have multiple choices
they can see my pack , user_hidden pack and onepiece pack
and they choose what they need
my pack has 128
about 118 are high
thanks every body for supporting me

Last edited by Dream World on Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:47 am, edited 1 time in total.

long-lurker wrote:i've downloaded and will try on a virtualbox install...
might be several days before i can test it out...

i *HIGHLY* applaud having MORE than "just two" options to pick from as far as update packs go...

i've been toying around with creating my own also...
but so far the furthest i've gotten is creating my own IE8 and WMP11 "merged" addon...

one of the things that has always "bugged me" about this site is the whole mentality of "we already have a public update pack, why create your own?"...

but what bugs me even more is that when you go to a link that "discusses" the 'differences' between the public releases, you land on a page talking about releases that haven't been around for YEARS... why is that post even HERE, dated 2006 and at the TOP as if it were "important" or something...

long story short (too late?), i wish MORE people would post their "look what i made" update packs...

but yes, also a brief description of what makes it different from the "other two"...

i'm from the "camp" that believes one of these days we will wake up and read a post from "the two" saying they've "moved on", where would that leave us?

so yeah, let's ENCOURAGE *ALL* the "look what i made" update packs from those that have learned the know-how to create one...

THE MORE THE MERRIER

Seems to me you were the one attacking others before anyone else was too. We had only supplied suggestions you instantly started scolding us for a imagined slight that was not even directed towards you.

remember what one piece said
"Don't ask for a different configuration of Onepiece's XP AIO Update Pack: use one of the existing vanilla XP UpdatePack with your preferred addons instead"
and no one asked him "why he made his pack"
or "what is the difference between his pack and others"
we have now multiple choices
any one can choose one of it

Onepiece stated from the beginning what are the differences beetween his pack and Ryan's pack:

This XP post-SP3 All-in-One Update Pack differs from Ryan's One, which is more customizable to your needs, as it includes by default more stuff like IE8, DX updates, all .NETs or WMP11 for an easier integration, along with official and nearly all request-only hotfixes (RyanVM's Update Pack is more selective with request-only hotfixes, which is fine): all in a few MBs.

Please don't get me wrong. It's good to have multiple choices, but the users would like to know the differences beetween update packs, so they can make a choice: which one is better for their needs.
Also, a new pack brings some suspicion: does the pack integrate without consequences? , is the maker experienced or just a beginner?, etc.

Kelsenellenelvian wrote:
Seems to me you were the one attacking others before anyone else was too. We had only supplied suggestions you instantly started scolding us for a imagined slight that was not even directed towards you.

you are STIRRING THE POT...
and you KNOW IT !!!...

there is a very VERY long history here of "why learn to create an update pack, we have two excellent one's to chose from"...

my post was intended to ENCOURAGE users to create update packs...
YOU KNOW THAT, so does everyone else that read it...

STOP STIRRING THE POT !!!...
you are LOSING the "respect" of your peers !!!...

you are a MODERATOR and SHOULD be ABOVE this type of CRAP !!!...

if YOU decide to continue down this path, i sincerely hope that your MODERATOR priveleges are PULLED OUT FROM UNDER YOU !!!...

Very few around here have shown us original pack makers around here respect in a really long time. Most of the newer people (including you) only demand updates and changes. Then whine when things aren't done in a timely manner. You guys need to learn we are people and do this on our own time without recompense! It's members like you that made slot of us quit...

Welcome all
I hope that our dialogue on development and improvement
And I like to say I'm not a beginner
I am in this field since 9 years and more
and i have my own website but not in English
and all errors will be fixed in the next version

It's been brought to my attention that this is infact my update pack and addons bodged together by someone who doesn't know what they are doing, "Dream" posted on my forum asking for help and was quite rude.

All this is without my permission. My advise is to leave this well alone and use an alternative, I will update my pack at some point however I've broke my hand and it's in plaster atm so cannot give an eta.

@Dream World, please take this down, you didn't ask if you could take my packs, update them and claim them as your own and I don't appreciate you doing so. It's not cool. By all means learn how to make them and build your own like every other pack maker has done, there are plenty of people, including myself that will help you.