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Now this is going to make for a very interesting situation for fans of not just Elite but the whole space sim MMO niche.

I loved Elite & Frontier back in the day and never thought that they would make the leap to MMO once Eve Online appeared. Now we have the prospect of Elite: Dangerous going up against Star Citizen. Some of us may be drooling at the prospect of having these titles come along.

Mmm, for kickstart enthusiasts this will add a little bit of spice if you've already dropped some cash on Star Citizen.

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About bloody time..

I have been wanting a reskin or a true Elite Upgrade since the 80's.. I loved the feeling of unlimited space.. I truely explored the galaxy as I saw fit.. I played it as a trader mostly, but did tangle with some priates at times.. and sometimes I was the pirate and faced the consequences.. If they can't make it a true MMO, it would be great to see it come out as a console game, with PC version..

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One of the all-time greatest games is finally getting an update/remake.

EVE Online isn't even close to Elite potential, if done right, and we have all the reasons to believe it will be done right, because original author is doing the remake.

YES!!!!

blasphemy!, Elite and those other traditional space sims are just about being an effing bounty hunter, EVE has a whole group of several potential professions, you cant compare a tactical space sim with almost 4X mechanics with a traditional pew pew and frigates space sim .

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One of the all-time greatest games is finally getting an update/remake.

EVE Online isn't even close to Elite potential, if done right, and we have all the reasons to believe it will be done right, because original author is doing the remake.

YES!!!!

blasphemy!, Elite and those other traditional space sims are just about being an effing bounty hunter, EVE has a whole group of several potential professions, you cant compare a tactical space sim with almost 4X mechanics with a traditional pew pew and frigates space sim .

My question I have tho.. In EVE can a player be 99% safe from PvP? and can you relatively play the game without being forced into a guild?

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One of the all-time greatest games is finally getting an update/remake.

EVE Online isn't even close to Elite potential, if done right, and we have all the reasons to believe it will be done right, because original author is doing the remake.

YES!!!!

blasphemy!, Elite and those other traditional space sims are just about being an effing bounty hunter, EVE has a whole group of several potential professions, you cant compare a tactical space sim with almost 4X mechanics with a traditional pew pew and frigates space sim .

My question I have tho.. In EVE can a player be 99% safe from PvP? and can you relatively play the game without being forced into a guild?

it can, as long as he knows how to avoid those players. as for solo playing, its possible, but it takes time, EVE wasnt designed for solo players. (and even people like to do solo mining, solo ratting, and solo other type of things). so yeah its possible.

but the point is that one cant compare EVE with Elite, Elite has mining and manufacture? no, has planet and moon interaction? (building things on a planet and extracting resources, extracting resources from moons), has player combat in big ships? no, Elite and its sequel are the typical space sim, flying with little ships (basically frigate PvE) getting missions and kiling pirates,trading loot and cargo but nothing else (except, landing on planets but you cant do much more), even Evochron Mercenary has more features, this is a correct comparing . EVE is more like a single player 4X space game (except the fact that empires are built by several players).

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One of the all-time greatest games is finally getting an update/remake.

EVE Online isn't even close to Elite potential, if done right, and we have all the reasons to believe it will be done right, because original author is doing the remake.

YES!!!!

blasphemy!, Elite and those other traditional space sims are just about being an effing bounty hunter, EVE has a whole group of several potential professions, you cant compare a tactical space sim with almost 4X mechanics with a traditional pew pew and frigates space sim .

My question I have tho.. In EVE can a player be 99% safe from PvP? and can you relatively play the game without being forced into a guild?

it can, as long as he knows how to avoid those players. as for solo playing, its possible, but it takes time, EVE wasnt designed for solo players. (and even people like to do solo mining, solo ratting, and solo other type of things). so yeah its possible.

but the point is that one cant compare EVE with Elite, Elite has mining and manufacture? no, has planet and moon interaction? (building things on a planet and extracting resources, extracting resources from moons), has player combat in big ships? no, Elite and its sequel are the typical space sim, flying with little ships (basically frigate PvE) getting missions and kiling pirates,trading loot and cargo but nothing else (except, landing on planets but you cant do much more), even Evochron Mercenary has more features, this is a correct comparing . EVE is more like a single player 4X space game (except the fact that empires are built by several players).

Elite and Frontier weren't typical space sims in their day. Original was more like it.

If the new Elite game and Star Citizen can offer meaningful gameplay to solo players as well as a multiplayer experience (which both propose) they'll make a lot of space sim fans very happy.

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Originally posted by xaritscin

but the point is that one cant compare EVE with Elite, Elite has mining and manufacture? no, has planet and moon interaction? (building things on a planet and extracting resources, extracting resources from moons), has player combat in big ships? no, Elite and its sequel are the typical space sim, flying with little ships (basically frigate PvE) getting missions and kiling pirates,trading loot and cargo but nothing else (except, landing on planets but you cant do much more), even Evochron Mercenary has more features, this is a correct comparing . EVE is more like a single player 4X space game (except the fact that empires are built by several players).

That's somewhat harsh on a game almost 30 years old. It's pretty clear to see that Eve has very strong roots in Elite (1984), particularly Frontier: Elite II (1993). Frontier did have mining and large vessels, multiple & open career paths, and an absolutely massive play area literarly the size of the Milky Way due to procedural techniques that gave a depth never before seen, and until Eve came along, not bettered. As for Evechron Mercenary, you have to remember that when the original Elite came out games were little better than 8 bit Pacman/Galaxian/Defender/Asteroid clones. All of this ran on hardware with much less power and memory of mobile phones a decade ago and designed to fit onto a single floppy disk.

If Elite:Dangerous can capture the magic of previous Elite games in a MMO framework then Eve might lose a few customers.

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One of the all-time greatest games is finally getting an update/remake.

EVE Online isn't even close to Elite potential, if done right, and we have all the reasons to believe it will be done right, because original author is doing the remake.

YES!!!!

blasphemy!, Elite and those other traditional space sims are just about being an effing bounty hunter, EVE has a whole group of several potential professions, you cant compare a tactical space sim with almost 4X mechanics with a traditional pew pew and frigates space sim .

Considering that I'm sure even the EVE makers themselves are probably crazed fans of Elite, I think what you are saying is a lot more blasphemous to them as you are basically pissing on a game that SINGLEHANDEDLY created the genre and on which, EVE evolved from.

You can even lookup this very chart I've mentioned above online if you Google for it. It was articled in PC Gamer/Powerplay only back in 2010.

Everything starts with Elite. You are like basically pissing on Adam and Eve of the genre by saying it is crap and not innovative compared to Eve, which comes more than 20 YEARS after elite first appeared, lol

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I"ve played EVE and I didn't last more then the 10 day free trial.. Without any type of new player guide I was lost.. Add in the struggle to solo as a new player, it just wasn't friendly enough to stay past the free trial.. Shame too, cause when I played elite on my Commodore system in the 80's... I could play for hours and hours, in a day and never get bored exploring what I found.. I just hope that Elite sequal plays more like the orginal game, not not like some online PvP co-op version..

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Originally posted by Rydeson I"ve played EVE and I didn't last more then the 10 day free trial.. Without any type of new player guide I was lost.. Add in the struggle to solo as a new player, it just wasn't friendly enough to stay past the free trial.. Shame too, cause when I played elite on my Commodore system in the 80's... I could play for hours and hours, in a day and never get bored exploring what I found.. I just hope that Elite sequal plays more like the orginal game, not not like some online PvP co-op version..

Did you try the Industrial Sized Knowledgebase guide? It's fairly comprehensive and has excellent production values.