am i allowed back in to this thread please? was absent due to t'internet and laptop problems.all sorted now.training ok, did 14 last sunday in very muggy heat and a speedier run on Thursday, also v warm. was trying to tell myself it wasnt really that hot as i did northants ultra 35 end of may in sweltering conditions. have a 20miler on Ridgeway planned in 2 weeks and then 28 maybe 2 weeks after that. ABO will be a last long run for me before doing Druids ultra so should all fit in nicely

good run for you then today aching calves,and a speedy pace, yes the weather much better this weekend, last week was v humid. i will be treating abo as a training run with regards to mileage AC, but with slightly faster pace than for an ultra..if that makes sense ...

Good long runs happening out there. I am still in recovery mode from South Downs Marathon 3 weeks ago, though I've run pretty much every day since, and I even did a 5 and a bit trail race on Wednesday, which was my first full speed run. 7 miles this afternoon, with a bit of pace for the last couple.

The trick is going to be balancing marathon training for Abo with bike training for the London to Brighton off-road in September

30miles a day for the three days makes me wonder how you keep the legs from tightening up over night? Are you doing all three?

Did London last year, was under prepared and over raced, you can guess the outcome hobbled in in 3:28. Then, as already booked, did Edinburgh five weeks later a few minutes slower with the last hour being awful lol.

loulabell - 30 miles a day for 3 days sounds sounds frighting. I assume the key is not to over do it on the first day, so you still have something left for day 2 and 3. How much slower is ultra pace compared to marathon pace?

CFB - sounds like you are getting back into the swing of things. Have you a bike training plan for London to Brighton, or is it the case of just fitting in some long bike rides with the marathon training?

AC - it's the latter, because as far as I'm concerned London to Brighton offroad is not really a race - I'm doing it with a couple of mates, one of whom is pretty fit and another who is, as they say, built for comfort not for speed. Mind you, they both do a lot more cycling than me!

Loulabell, I've considered entering the Jurassic Challenge for the last couple of years but I would love to know how you train to run so long (and over such hilly terrain) on 3 consecutive days. I'm pretty sure I couldn't have run another marathon the day after South Downs - though I could probably have managed a 5 hour plus march-shuffle-jog.

CFB, AC, mee meep, i have not done a multi day ultra as of yet. am only doing first day of druids as i have a 9year old who has dance classes on saturdays lol so im doing just the friday stint of 30m. in 6 weeks i have northdowns which is 50miles so have some long runs planned for july.

AC, ultra pace starts off slowly..and gets slower lol.. anywhere between 9mm to 15 is normal, varying depending on terrain. getting used to longer distances goes hand in hand with refuelling on the run too and having your head in the right place.

CFB, on northants ultra we followed the Jurassic way for quite a lot of it.and the march/shuffle /jog is sometimes what it comes to nearing the end of some!

Weirdly got used to the rain now and quite enjoy it . So the 16 week plan started fairly well yesterday, with 3m easy-steady, 1m @MP, 1m @HMP, 1m @tempo, 1m @10k, 1m @10k, 1m cd. 2 min recovery between miles, from MP down. Hadn't ran any quicker than MP since May so pleasing to hit all paces

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