The Descent of Sarah Palin, and the Decision of the GOP.

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Golden Girl —> Pit bull —> Air Head —> Diva. Thus has been the progression of labels given to Alaska Governor and Vice Presidential wannabee, Sarah Palin. Now we can add a new monicker to the de-evolution of the Republican Party’s darling girl. “Whack job.”

And no, this didn’t come from a blog, or the “Liberal Media”. It came from an official in the McCain campaign! Have a listen.

This is a good segment. I particularly like the acknowledgment that the Republican party needs to decide what it’s going to be. After the next four years, which looks like a scenario in which the GOP will be wandering the moors like King Lear, they need to make some choices. Will they look to their pre-Reagan past for inspiration? Or will they allow the party to be cannibalized by the religious right, with the pit bull-diva-whack job as head chef?

As reported earlier, Governor Sarah Palin will star in the upcoming movie X-Men 4 replacing Anna Paquin as the character Rogue. However, Sarah Palin’s character Rogue will no longer reunite with love interest Iceman played by Senator John McCain. In a bold, rogue move Palin has asked for a rewrite of the script. Her new love interest in the film will be a business associate of her husband Todd Palin.

In the manner of the true sociopath she’ll find a way to turn all the negativity on her to her own advantage. Don’t count out the whack-job just yet.

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Enjay in Eastern MT(20:45:18) :

Slowly wandering over to new thread & listening to KO

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asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN(20:47:21) :

I still think the best thing is for the GOP to splinter in two with the rightwingnuts going their way and the true conservatives going theirs. Heck, the moderate cons can have our moderate libs if they want. Three parties. If we keep the party-system at all.

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eajphd Molten Contra Palin(20:47:25) :

“Mizer (20:43:56) :
Sarah is just a “Game Show Host” !”

If you look at her calling out Joe the Plumber, Mary the Hair Dresser, Pete the Roofer… the next thing you expect to hear is come on down and play the election! Which is exactly what she and McCain are trying to do.

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Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin(20:47:29) :

Hey mudpups..

I’ve been quiet.. Got a damn cold/sore throat.. Wonder who was at the Leesburg VA rally that did this to me.. hmmph..!

Anyway,, here’s my take on things tonight.

I’ve been looking at McAngry videos tonight, and see a distinct contrast to them when I see the calm, polite demeanor of Obama.

Here’s the weird part. I ruptured my achilles tendon back in June and today was my last med visit and he said i have healed well.. I asked him if he’d been hammered in the stock market and he said he just didn’t look at his losses..

I said at least you’ll be happy when Obama takes over and fixes this mess and he instantly went off into how he was totally in McGrumpy’s corner. He clearly had koolaid on his lips. He even used the Failin is so much more qualified than Obama. Every talking point memorized. Yet, when he asked me why I liked Obama, he didn’t care to hear my answers.

As one of the top orthopedic surgeons in northern VA, he’s very busy and said he would love to discuss this more, but he had a waiting room full of patients. So, it ended there without much more dialog.

My question I ask myself repeatedly, is how intelligent people like a surgeon can’t see what we see. I understand how ignorant racist idiots can justify mcgrumpy, but a doctor? Maybe he makes over $250k and he’s mad he has to pay more in taxes?

But he’s the curious part of the mcgrumpy allure. Middle aged, over middle income, well educated. Yet, he thinks Barbie is better than Obama.!!

LOL and the ship is going down, down down🙂 I sorta feel bad for them. Man this seems like conversation they should be having after the election not before. My God I can even fathom them two running this country.

Good questions, AKM. I can only hope that for the sake of good conservatives (like my hubby who feels so betrayed by his own party) that some new, good, honest and respectable ground will be found from which to rebuild conservativism in America. (I’m not afraid of true conservatives, even though I may not agree with all of their beliefs.)

But I do hope the far right wing religious fringe feeds on itself until there’s nothing left or, at the very least, becomes so marginalized in the American politcal system that it can no longer do any harm. And I do think its utter marginalization can happen if we stay vigilant, if we keep pushing back, if good folk of every stripe (liberal, conservative, green, libertarian, etc.) keep the pressure and the scrutiny on, keep revealing their rant and their nonsense for what it is. Most of us are fully awake now. Let’s stay that way.

hose Hussein hotrod

g’night all

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eajphd Molten Contra Palin(20:54:06) :

Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin (20:47:29) :

The AMA having drumming fear of socialized medicine into MD’s for years. The big fear is that people will take a really close look at their incomes and perhaps think they’re a tad too high. A lot of successful practitioners come in well above $250k, the top medical school professors usually make more than the college presidents, strangely enough even more than the football coaches.

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bPoint(20:54:06) :

Here is a great video of a gentleman who just met Obama

Enjoy it!

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Big Al from Las Vegas(20:54:08) :

Goalie Sanka in NM,

Don’t know enough about NM Gov Bill Richardson to endorse him for Secretary of State. But, I will say this …

To enhance his appeal to everyday Latinos, Bill Richardson should claim to be a relative of former L.A. Dodgers pitcher and Mexican-American icon Fernando Valenzuela. They look alike beer belly and-all. Richardson can also pass as a relative of the older, retired and overweight world boxing champion Roberto “Manos de Piedra” Duran. A Spanish-language nickname might also help- something like Bill “Ricky Ricardo” Richardson.

No worries. I’m half Mexican. The beauty of being bi-racial is that I can make white jokes and I can make Latino jokes and nobody can call me racist because I am both.🙂

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Dianna(20:56:12) :

Hey Martha,

I typed a big mess on the other thread to you. Just merrily typing away, making a bunch of typos in my haste.

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Reality Check(20:56:41) :

She is done, stick a fork in her.

John McCain is a complete idiot to have picked her. It should infuriate every American that he picked this person to potentially be our president if he should win and die.

She also deserves to pay the price she is paying for having the nerve/ignorance/audacity to think she could handle this. She is a complete fool. I know that sounds harsh, but it is very true.

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Sourdough Mullet Hussein Palin(20:57:22) :

OH, my god, This is such a relief! I’ve watched Sarah Palin for the past 15 years, as she somehow, incredibly, has moved from Wasilla City Council to Mayor to (gasp!) Governor. I’ve been in total disbelief the entire time. How could people POSSIBLY be so gullible?! Her divisiveness, mean-spiritedness, and total devotion to her own personal agenda and political goals are so transparent!
I’ve lost countless hours of sleep over the past two months, had disturbing dreams, and spent entirely too much time blogging. I’m pretty sure I’ve been written off as a nutcase by more than a few of my friends/relatives because of my rantings about this election, and especially about “the frightening absurdity that is Sarah Palin”. The fact that a McCain staffer actually admitted that yes, Sarah truly IS a Whack Job, just makes me want to dance like a wild chipmunk on the dining room table. YES!!! Someone finally SEES it! The truth is finally emerging from behind the thin veneer of Sarah Palin’s “public persona”. She is, very much indeed, a scary, dangerous, woman, and probably a poster child for narcissistic personality disorder.
Oh, happy day!

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Aussie Puck Mule Hussein(20:57:53) :

Caligal, wherever you are

8 then )

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strangelet (Speck Backfire Hussein P.)(21:00:03) :

Sourdough Mullet Hussein Palin (20:57:22) :
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Great. Now the image of a wild chipmunk dancing on a dining room table is gonna keep making me spit out my drink.

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Southernbelle(21:01:09) :

Marty Hussein,
Being a southern belle and all here’s my take–the scary facists are usually blue collar and working poor. And in spite of their hatred and anger I feel sorry for them. They’re afraid and often have good reason to be as they are usually getting the shaft and on top of it being manipulated by the very people they champion. People like your doctor–and I have very good friends in Richmond who come from the same kind of background–are basically concerned about their money. That’s it. Nothing else. For some reason they resent having to share the wealth. They believe that everybody else got the same start on third base they did or if they didn’t they should just work harder. I’ve heard this my entire life and I’m not young. What can you say? Not much. I just do my best to either have a sense of humor and try to make them laugh or find something we both agree upon. Sigh.

the best thing the GOP could do is back away from some of this hard-right ideology. shake out all this “God hearts Politics” BS and get back to what the party used to represent – smaller government, fiscal responsibility/conservative. the way they look now is like a bigger version of the infamous days of televanelists Jim and Tammy Faye Baker (may she rest in peace).

I guess the label “Rogue” must have had too positive a connotation for the McCain camp. You can envision an evangelical TV ad with Sarah Palin in X-Men gear touting her new rogue identity. “My running mate John mccain may be a maverick, but i’ve one-upped him because i am now a rogue! VOTE YES ON PROP 8 IN CA!! Hee-Haw!!!” Let’s see how the Sarah Palin camp spins the “wack job” label into a positive.

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mhrt oregon"steve"(21:03:04) :

no heads up on new post……..not first

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sauerkraut aka Palins MooseCandy(21:03:06) :

Yanno the best thing about waking up at 1 am and looking at all the commens posted since I fell asleep?

Yep.

There’s been no change in the poll figures. McCain and Palin are still losers.

I can now go back to sleep safe and secure in the knowledge that when I wake up, there will be hope. And change that doesn’t involve a diaper.

Sorry, all you old people, but I need my sleep. I’ll catch up tomorrow.

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Bec Hussein in Illinois(21:03:50) :

Marty — I’m glad you seem to be healed so you hopefully won’t have to visit your ortho again. Or maybe you have just one lovely visit left – AFTER the election and you can rub it in?

I am sure the comments by eajphd Molten Contra Palin are quite true, too. Though I think medicine is totally up for grabs right now and they don’t know which way to go. Or how they will have to work in the coming years. My husband just had a long conversation with his doc about the difficulties of being a doc these days. Unless they are from wealth – they are still paying for their education and new practice well into their 50s.Not to mention the liability insurance that is sky high.

I also think there is probably a touch of the red hot Republican (Palin) Viagara working there.

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Hick Town in W PA(21:04:38) :

Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin (20:47:29) : Marty, every dentist I ever had, save one, was (is) a fascist. And they go on their rants when you have a mouth full of stuff and can’t say a thing. It’s a form of torture.

The status quo suits them so they want no changes. However, because the profession has kept themselves artificially small, there isn’t much they can do. It will do them good to have to think about a few things.

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prettybrown(21:05:04) :

The wierd this is they ran such a disfunctional campaign up against Obamas who ran his sooooooo well organized and innovative. I mean really he has set a new standard for campaigning. This one will go down in the books of how too’s. 🙂

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asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN(21:06:10) :

Night, upnorth MN aka hose Hussein hotrod!

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Enjay in Eastern MT(21:06:33) :

Comment f/The New Republic “Defending Sarah”

The Arizona senator, after all, has been well served by his maverick instincts for much of his political life. But, at the most important moment of his career, those instincts led him in disastrous directions–causing him to gamble with his vice-presidential pick, provoking him to suspend his campaign in the midst of the financial crisis, and generally making him appear erratic and unpresidential.

Hey gang, are you all getting tired of McSame and Palin throwing out all these lies about Obama. It’s been Muslum, terrorist, socialist, Marxist, and more. They know if they throw enough stuff out there some of it will stick with their stupid followers.

It’s time to turn the tables and try to start another distraction for the Republicans. Here’s a link to all the news agencies again.

Lets write them all and ask them to investigate Todd Palins membership in the Alaskan Independance Party. Lets accuse Sarah of sleeping with a separatist! Maybe we can question her loyalty to the USofA. It’s worth a shot. I know the Dems won’t do it cause they’re taking the high road. Maybe with a little luck we can get one of them to raise the issue.

Other issues that I haven’t heard any MSM cover is the endorsement of Obama by NOW (National Organism of Women) First time since 84 that NOW has endorsed a presidential candidate.

Also, I haven’t seen any mention of the Alaskan Daily New’s endorsement of Obama either.

Only a few more days left. Let’s make them count. Let’s floods them with emails.

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Big Al from Las Vegas(21:09:31) :

Krystal (20:33:44) :

Hey, can someone tell me what Obbie was getting at with his joemamma comment being a slander against hispanics? I love him, but he completely lost me on that one. Any helpful hints?
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I have no idea. Are you sure he didn’t say “Jose’s mama?”

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LibertyLover(21:09:42) :

OK. I have to ask, because somewhere I missed it… but what in the heck does SWWNBN stand for (Besides Palin — that much I got)?

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pamela(21:10:11) :

I’m afraid that with the recent Wall St. mess, the economic conservatives have lost all credibility – and the repubs are ripe for a social conservative right wing nut job takeover. These folks still like Sarah Palin. (I was going to say “warts and all” but I don’t think they see the warts.) She may be looney, but she’s a rock star. Remember, this country elected Reagan and W. I won’t put it past a percentage of the country to rally around Palin.😦 So, I guess our job, as upnorth suggested, is to stay awake!

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asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN(21:11:04) :

I think since Palin is so empty of a real personality, people tend to project things on her. She’s the ultimate doll in that she can be whoever you want her to be. Unfortunately for her, there’s no there, there.

Big Al in Vegas, I know what you mean! One of the few perks of being a minority is that I can make Asian jokes with impunity!

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Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin(21:11:15) :

Here’s my other point.

Less than a week to go before we’re done with McGrumpy Coward, and other than rhetoric, can anyone definitively tell me what his ACTUAL policies are?

He doesn’t seem to have one. Both his and Barbies speeches are just loaded with hate filled comment about how bad Obama is. There is never any actual time spent on policy statements. Why bother? That’s simply not important to the McJerkoff twins.

There is a whole series of videos of crowds going to mcstupid’s rallys. In them, the hate message du jour is spewed by the lemmings WE LIVE NEXT DOOR TO.. How scary is this? ?? Our friends, neighbors, work associates, doctors, all buy it.

But what are they buying? It’s certainly not McDopo’s tax plan. He doesn’t have one. It’s not his energy plan, thats just drill baby drill, but that’s barbies plan. It doesn’t matter it won’t help for 10 years. It’s just fun for them to say. It’s not his education plan. He’s never stated one. It’s not his health plan, which amounts to ‘AMF’s.. you’re on your own’…

so, what is it? Hate. Simple. We knew there would be backlash to a black candidate, but while so many of us don’t see a black man when we watch Obama, the haters always will, and they’ll hate us for electing him. They can’t see what he offers, they ignore what he says.

Hate consumes them. Those videos, Hate filled tirades by people that ARE neighbors. Many of them look like someone we know. Yet, what we couldn’t see what the hate that rages within them. Maybe they don’t even know it. Maybe if we called them racists, they’d be indignant and insulted. Not them, they’d proclaim. But then, what is it? Hate doesn’t need to be racist, it can be hating the unknown, or hating people who have nice smiles.

The end result is we end up with a huge part of America guided by some warped sense of value that maybe sociologists in 50 years will figure out. but it’s out of our control. We’re confident Obama will win, all the polls seem to bear this out. For this, there is some gratitude that enough people are intelligent enough to see past the ugly venom the McGrumpy twins spew on a daily basis.

McGrumpy will go home, his darling Stepford Wife, Cindy will divorce him.
Barbie will go home and she’ll get indicted. The Feds got a taste for Alaskan blood with Teddy and now they’ll focus on Barbie, and my guess is Obama will be the top of the heap wanting her gone.

It’s just sad America has such a huge screwed up population. And this isn’t just about McGrumpy’s candidacy. He could have kept a promise he made way back in March or April when he promised to run a clean campaign, i think he said the cleanest ever.

Yet, from DAY ONE, when it was Obama v. McGrumpy, he was already in attack ad mode. Wright was his first, Ayers, Socialism, and whatever other made up BS they could think of.

In Contrast, Obama has acted like an adult and a professional man who knows his mission. He’s never stooped to the gutter and stayed on message. Explained his plans and dreams, and that’s resonated with so many of us. Fortunately, enough to carry the Obama team to the Presidency.

So many years, our Dem candidates were really the lesser of two evils and we lost twice in the past eight years. This year, there is a clear choice, good v evil and an honest man with integrity will rent the White House for the next eight years. We know he can do no worse than W.. But, unlike in the past, this year, there is excitement and passion. And we sit around a blog in Alaska commisserating with friends who understand.

And we wait for late night on 11/4 with the confidence of the future. And God help us all if we’ve miscalculated. This will be a very sad place to live.

Just vote, and in numbers, we’ll win and we’ll watch that wonderful smile when President-Elect Barack Obama tells us it’ll be ok.

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pamela(21:11:15) :

LibertyLover – “She who will not be named” (as in Harry Potter)

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Big Al from Las Vegas(21:12:22) :

Newsflash!

George Bush has agreed to play William Stryker, the.Christian fundamentalist politician who sees himself on a mission from God to destroy the mutant race through economic catastrophe, for the fourth installment of the movie franchise X-Men entitled “X-Men 4: Mavericks Down!” Stryker is teamed up with his sidekick Karl Rove who plays himself.

The good mutants are led by Wolverine played by the optimistic Joe Biden and the beautiful Storm played by Halle Berry (who is just too hot to be replaced by a career politician).

The militant mutants are led by cynical yet resolute leader Magneto played by Ralph Nader. Ted Stevens will replace Rebecca Romijn-Stamos as Mystique, Magneto’s loyal second-in-command.

Barack Obama will play the voice of the ghost of paraplegic telepath Professor Charles Xavier.

As reported earlier, Governor Sarah Palin will star in the upcoming movie X-Men 4 replacing Anna Paquin as the character Rogue. However, Sarah Palin’s character Rogue will no longer reunite with love interest Iceman played by Senator John McCain. In a bold, rogue move Palin has asked for a rewrite of the script. Her new love interest in the film will be a business associate of her husband Todd Palin.

Is there an evangelical preacher online that can call in the rapture and get Sarah Palin lifted the hell out of here?

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whichferret(21:16:10) :

So I am waiting to find out if I have a “troll” or if I am going to be able to convert someone at my blog

wish me luck

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Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon(21:16:50) :

Dianna! I’m here – sorry that took so long, my husband was making dinner! I have 20 signs, and they say “Obama 08”. Very cool signs.

Email me a my alternate account: mtoonster at hotmail.com and I’ll get your address. Express mail would be best – I found a mailer just now and I can do a Clik N Ship Label tonight and get it out first thing AM. Our Fed Ex is slower, and has earlier cutoffs. I will post back here if I don’t find you at hotmail.

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asianHusseingrrl"thatone"MN(21:20:16) :

Hey, if Nov. 4th goes poorly, then I have a few sources who say I will be welcomed up north (Canada) with open arms. My passport is updated, and I can leave at any moment.

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DrChill(21:20:41) :

but what in the heck does SWWNBN stand for (Besides Palin — that much I got)?
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I refer to her as “McCain’s choice.”
After all, the election is not about her kids or her gender, her accent…

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prettybrown(21:20:43) :

I do hope that once McMeany/Painin loose that they do make some type of speech correcting the false allegations they have made against Obama. Something that will unify America. I think they have really instilled a lot of fear and anger in the hearts of many American against Obama. If they say Country first then I hope they do the right thing and correct this wrong so that we can come together and climb out of this mess.

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antiAnti(21:20:51) :

pta mom to national-grade whack job in approx. ten years – AHA – now I have an answer to the “she’s a role model” angle. Thanks AKM. nite

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mhrt oregon"steve"(21:22:13) :

@Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin (20:47:29) :
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you know what I think it is ……………they just go party………they do not look any thing up………..the just listen to what they hear on tv…………..so you really think if they heard that witch craft stuff…………and the AIP that they would believe in her…….I don’t think so………….they just listen to the news…….the TV…………and the don’t see the bad stuff………

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Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin(21:22:37) :

whoa.. i was busy typing.. time to tivo backwards to see this rather exposed and hot actress on The Late Late Show.. yikes.. how’d i miss that? Curse you, Barack Obama..🙂 hahahahaha

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DeMo(21:24:49) :

Krystal (20:33:44) said:

Hey, can someone tell me what Obbie was getting at with his joemamma comment being a slander against hispanics? I love him, but he completely lost me on that one. Any helpful hints?
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I think it’s because recent Hispanic immigrants have trouble pronouncing the “y” sound. Instead, they often use the “j” sound. Since the expression is “yo’ mama,” Joe Mama could be heard as a slur against Hispanics. It’s a stretch, but I think that’s what Olbermann was going for.

Some you can’t save. At least my kids are both firmly voting Obama. My good genes must have gotten in them..!🙂

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Hick Town in W PA(21:26:17) :

Night all … I have citizens to call in the a.m.

The haters are dead enders. We want a better America. They think it has been taken from them and it’s going to get worse. Hate can be an addiction also and Palin feeds it because she feels the same.

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Dianna(21:26:20) :

Martha!

Got it!

I will pick up the cost. Going to e-mail you.

Hugs to you!

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Marty (VA) Hussein 10 Point Lead..:)(21:26:51) :

maybe my new id will hold up another 6 days..!

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Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin(21:26:56) :

asianHusseingrrl”thatone”MN (21:20:16) :

Hey, if Nov. 4th goes poorly, then I have a few sources who say I will be welcomed up north (Canada) with open arms. My passport is updated, and I can leave at any moment.
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You’re welcome to join the 1 million other Americans who have moved up here. They were all discussing voting on the radio today. Most seem to be democratic save for those in Alberta who lean right. There has been a veritable flood since 2004.

I ask because the 5th photo made me cry like a baby. A lot of things about this election campaign have made me cry — good tears, tears of hope. I get really really angry about the hate talk and the racism and the rest of the M/P bullsh!t, but I don’t cry about that stuff. The hope & happiness in these faces just really really moves me.

I, too, am a little blue boat in a sea of red. My neighborhood here in Alaska, where the toddler & I have been going door to door, is enough to get ya down. Some people are just so effing rude, as if it is personal to them that I am not voting M/P. Of course I don’t explain to them that until the Palin pick I was a registered republican, that when she was picked I knew that there was no hope for the party unless they go down in flames this time around and have to regroup.

I don’t get it, why these people are so hateful — my husband & I have never scoffed or been angry at Democrats in the past. Big deal, it’s democracy in action, everybody gets to choose their own candidate to vote for. Mind you, I hope that I can never ever understand why people are voting for M/P — I don’t think my brain could handle it, might burst into flames or something. Yes, some people are filled with hate and fear and rage, but some are good people who have their reasons, reasons that I will never understand or relate to, but I’ve got to let that go. I have friends who feel really strongly about abortion, they are one-issue voters, and I have to be okay with that or give up friendships that are decades in length.

Focus on the positives, it’s the only way you’ll get through with your sanity intact.

Coming here helps A LOT.

Hang in there. And don’t invite the haters to your xmas parties.

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Big Al from Las Vegas(21:31:06) :

Electoral Map Question: “If a state like Georgia or West Virginia is labeled a pink state, shouldn’t these states support gay marriage?”
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Yo, I was in California last week and was tripping out on all the “Vote Yes on Prop 8” propaganda. What the hell is going on in the Golden State? Why all the haters?

My liberal friends, if some jerk-off Californian conservative is pro-Prop 8 make the following appeal: “Yo, jerk-off. Think about it this way. If gays want to get married let them. Then, they can get divorced and be miserable like the rest of us.” Jerk-off’s love that “misery loves company” appeal.

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testerm(21:31:16) :

Elmer Creek
don’t forget her political career was started in the living room of a CONVICTED FELON.

I always knew from the first time she spoke and I read about her that she was the plant of the Repug party. I wouldn’t put it past them to claim Mc unfit if he won, (which he isn’t going to do) and have SP be president. We all know how the true Right-wing Repugs hate Mc.

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SMR(21:32:29) :

@Vlad — my hubby is in Calgary working. I’m ready to apply for political asylum if M/P win the election! Calgary is full of oil people (like us), hence the right-leaning thing. My husband and I are sane & rational, though, that’s two!

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Aussie Puck Mule Hussein(21:32:39) :

@whichferret (21:16:10) :

So I am waiting to find out if I have a “troll” or if I am going to be able to convert someone at my blog

wish me luck
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Good luck, I hope it’s worth it.

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Marty (VA) Hussein 10 Point Lead..:)(21:32:40) :

ok.. time for a little levity..

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Marty (VA) Hussein 10 Point Lead..:)(21:35:10) :

Moving to Canada would mean learning a new language.. hmmmm.. eh?

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Big Al from Las Vegas(21:36:38) :

Krystal (20:33:44) said:
Hey, can someone tell me what Obbie was getting at with his joemamma comment being a slander against hispanics? I love him, but he completely lost me on that one. Any helpful hints?
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DeMo (21:24:49) replied:
I think it’s because recent Hispanic immigrants have trouble pronouncing the “y” sound. Instead, they often use the “j” sound. Since the expression is “yo’ mama,” Joe Mama could be heard as a slur against Hispanics. It’s a stretch, but I think that’s what Olbermann was going for.
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Big Al further comments:
Since the “j” in Spanish is pronounced something similar to the “h” sound in english, “yo momma” becomes “ho momma.” but, i don’t think that was obbie’s point. i think obbie was simply calling S Palin a racist idiot for saying, “yo/joe/ho momma” to begin with. Why the hell would a V.P. candidate dare to say such a thing at a rally? Oh, I forgot, she is a maverick, i mean rogue, i mean wack job.

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Glenn2008(21:36:52) :

Game Over Palin (aka GOP)

The title of the game she will host? MAVERICK!

Sorry, I just love this term, every time they manage to float it. It is so succinct and expressive, with its limitless promise of nothing.

I visualize it as something combining Superman, Wondewoman, the Fantastic Four and the Incredible Hulk.

Can we have the game on a desert island, please? One of those between Alaska and Russia.

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Pacificnwgal(21:37:16) :

Southernbelle (21:01:09) :
Re: sharing the wealth

They are worried about their money? So is the poor guy or gal who works two jobs just to put food on the table. They should thank their lucky stars. The facts are that in many ways the wealthy pay less taxes. For one, people only pay social security taxes on the about first $90,000. Anything above this amount is not taxed for SS. If all income was taxed for social security and the Congress would stop looting it for things like the war, then it would be solvent. The thing is that in the middle class, there are different tax brackets also. There is a higher tax bracket for someone making $40,000 than there is for someone making $20,000. And $40,000 is not very much money. Where is their the incentive to make more money when it is just taxed higher? One would have to make A LOT more money for it to pay off. This is where the wealthy need to be taxed a little more, not the people making $40,000. I could go on and on about the tax scenarios, social discrimination, and government roadblocks that penalize the middle class, low income, and poor people. The rich have nothing to complain about. At least in this country, they still ( and STILL WILL) have the opportunity to be and get rich. In England it is about 50 percent income tax.

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Vlad the I'm HUSSEIN Palin(21:37:34) :

Marty (VA) Hussein 10 Point Lead..:) (21:35:10) :

Moving to Canada would mean learning a new language.. hmmmm.. eh?

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Two – French and the Queen’s english, eh? Say what? You’d be gob-smacked1

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Marty (VA) Hussein 10 Point Lead..:)(21:37:40) :

ok.. this mcgrumpy video just blows me away.. these are a little obscure so im guessing you’ve not seen them..

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Dianna(21:39:54) :

There was a disturbing post at Huffington Post by a gay man saying that he is living in Arizona, and he’s 47 yrs old. He said that if McCain got elected he was going to take his life because he was tired of what he has already had to deal with. Sounded like he is depressed and lonesome. A few posts after that were awful.

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vena45(21:40:59) :

You’re damn right Palin’s only a game show host not a potential president in 2012. NO WAY, NO HOW, NO MCCAIN/PALIN!

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Big Al from Las Vegas(21:44:32) :

Is there an evangelical preacher online that can call in the rapture and get Sarah Palin lifted the hell out of here?
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And, while the preacher is at it, have them rapture-lift Karl Rove, George Bush, Dr. James Dobson, and Pat Robertson. But, make sure to leave Pat Buchanan on eearth. He’s good in his role as the conservative voice on MSNBC. Always nice to have that insight into how the other side thinks.

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Sandie(21:49:41) :

I tell you what, as someone who used to make $25,000 a year, and had to rely on state funded health insurance for my children, and now living in a $120,000 plus household, I amso happy to pay more in taxes. The programs were there when we needed them and now we are in a position to help ensure the same programs will continue to exist. This is our obligation and a happy one. We have SO much now, and after 5 years of manual labor to support my family, I know first hand how hard some people have to work to bring home those just above poverty level paychecks. I suggest a stint in low paying, hard wokr blue collar for everyone, really changed my perspective

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Krystal(21:50:03) :

Have y’all seen this yet:

I knew I liked that sappy lifetime movie with matthew perry for some reason. It just makes me feel good in the face of so much division on the message boards, I know I shouldn’t read them on sites like politico but I do it anyhow.

@Big Al — You are reading my mind! I typed in a comment here a couple of days ago. Something along the lines of “can we get Bible Spice raptured now?” I was having a day where I was really hating on her, she was probably calling Obama a communist that day or something. I thought “I’m being mean. People will think I’m awful.” So I erased it and didn’t post it.

I don’t think you’re mean or awful. You obvs have a great, twisted mind like mine.

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Sandie(21:57:07) :

I ran into Palin’s mom the other day, and really, she is so sweet, it is just hard to believe… I feel bad for her, she looked tired and said she was ready for this to be all over. Wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

Big Al from Las Vegas (21:02:02) :
let’s see how the Sarah Palin camp spins the “wack job” label into a positive.”

Don’t cha know whack means to cut? I’m a really budget whacker – that’s my job. The McCain people are so proud of me they call me the whack job to emphasize it, just like John calls Obama that one to emphasize Oprah’s idea that he’s The One. It’s just a term of endearment that pays great tribute to my stellar qualities, as you know stellar refers to stars and the North Star is the compass everyone navigates by. It’s clear they’re saying that I’m a whack job, because I’m one the one who can guide everybody of of this economic mess by my skill at budget cutting. Just ask Ted the Felon or John the Loser.

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Marty (VA) Hussein 10 Point Lead..:)(21:59:41) :

here’s a particularly nifty view of the most recent polls. note who doesn’t have a single dot in the plus category for october..!

You are correct about Social Security; if incomes above $90,000- say up to $150,000- paid into the system, and the retirement age (for full distribution; you can get some money before age 65) is increased slightly each year for several years, then Social Security would be fine. The program to worry about is Medicare-

I agree with Warren Buffet, who said that there is something wrong with our country when he pays a lower percentage of his income in taxes than his administrative assistant. He also doesn’t believe in getting rid of estate taxes- too bad more Repugs don’t listen to the Oracle of Omaha (my home town, by the way- my childhood home is close to where he still lives)

Hang in there, all you blue islands in seas of red; if Colorado can change its hue to purple/leaning blue, anything is possible. I’m going to work for the Obama office close to my house on election day, as I have already voted by mail- I’m so pumped!

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SMR(22:02:56) :

Chief — I just saw it & replied to it there. G’nite.

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Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(22:03:20) :

Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin (20:47:29) :

Hey mudpups..

I’ve been quiet.. Got a damn cold/sore throat..
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Hope you get to feeling better soon.

A retired family doc who is a friend attended a Physicians for National Health Program ( http://www.pnhp.org/ ) convention last week and he says their latest survey has 69% of doctors in USA wanting universal healthcare. This percentage holds up across all specialties except a very few, like dermatology. I know a lot of healthcare types who are proObama. It is hard to navigate the current healthcare environment for providers as well as patients.

Marty – I had the same experience with my long time dentist. He has done a lot of work on my teeth and did a good job. But now it’s like – how can he be such a good dentist – he must be intelligent – and support McCain/Palin? It just doesn’t make sense to me. I’m seriously thinking of changing dentists because of this. I know it might sound weird but I keep thinking now that there’s something I don’t know about him. Something wrong. Is it possible to be intelligent and support McCain/Palin? This election has changed my mind about a number of people – I don’t hang out with people anymore that don’t get it. It’s just not worth it – and therefore I am becoming a hermit. I don’t want to think I’m becoming a snob, but what can I say? Weird things going on in this new world we are witnessing.

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mhrt oregon"steve"(22:10:21) :

@http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/25/654354
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HE DID NOT PICK HER……………………..family first did

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biglake (sack panther hussein)(22:10:33) :

I just got an email from my French branch of Democrats Abroad.
Just 144 hours left to go!
Can this be true?!
I wonder if this last week will feel as interminably long as this past month has seemed.

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eajphd Molten Contra Palin(22:10:36) :

Big Al from Las Vegas (21:09:31) :

Regarding Olbermann I think it was a play on Hispanic accents with yo transmuting into jo it was rather lame. Oh well.

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Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(22:13:18) :

Sandie (21:57:07) :

I ran into Palin’s mom the other day, and really, she is so sweet, it is just hard to believe… I feel bad for her, she looked tired and said she was ready for this to be all over. Wouldn’t wish it on anyone.
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As a mom who has always been into promoting education, I considered that the campaign would provide a unique educational opportunity for Palin’s children—the travel and the process of election and even exposure to so many different people. However, I think the down side would outway all the good UNLESS they were very well attended and protected from harmful influences and helped by an adult to sort through stuff regularly. I know they have a Nanny, but really, I don’t remember kids that young having been so exposed in a national election.

I bet Palin’s mom worries about the grandkids.

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Big Al from Las Vegas(22:16:09) :

SMR (21:54:45) :

re: Palin disappears during the rapture.
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Never second guess your Mudflats posting. Barack Obama has opened up the closet door invitiing liberals to punch, jab, hook, uppercut, kick, elbow, knee, and choke the opposition into submission (i apologize again for the boxing/mixed martials arts analogies. i am a recovering sports journalist.)

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Big Al from Las Vegas(22:18:05) :

eajphd Molten Contra Palin (21:59:07) :

Big Al from Las Vegas (21:02:02) :
let’s see how the Sarah Palin camp spins the “wack job” label into a positive.”

Don’t cha know whack means to cut? I’m a really budget whacker – that’s my job. The McCain people are so proud of me they call me the whack job to emphasize it …
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NIce.🙂

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Sandie(22:18:09) :

Denise thatOne:
Sarah’s mom said she was flying out Monday to join Sarah and see the kids. The oldest daughter was there with her. Yeah, it seems like a lot for the kids to go through.

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Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(22:22:00) :

I heard a journalist talking about how McCain’s camp believes the MSM has let Obama off easy, then he cited an example of how Dems have not hurt Obama over where O departs from them. Huh? These Repubs are so into LockStep they fail to understand how independent Dems are and how we prize uniqueness.

Jeez. It’s like Repubs are from Venus and Dems are from Mars.

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Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(22:26:03) :

Sandie (22:18:09) :

Sarah’s mom said she was flying out Monday to join Sarah and see the kids. The oldest daughter was there with her.
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It’s good to know Granny is there for them. I agree it seems like a lot for the kids to have to go through at their ages. We’ll probably be seeing them in the future appearing on whatever serves as Oprah’s or Jerry Springer’s show.

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Aussie Puck Mule Hussein(22:28:14) :

biglake (sack panther hussein) (22:10:33) :

144 hours to go from where they are😀

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mhrt oregon"steve"(22:28:41) :

Sourdough Mullet Hussein Palin (20:57:22) :

OH, my god, This is such a relief! I’ve watched Sarah

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ot…..ourdough Mullet Hussein Palin (20:57:22) :

OH, my god, This is such a relief! I’ve watched Sarah Palin for the past 15 years, as she somehow, incredibly, has moved from Wasilla City Council to Mayor to (gasp!) Governor. I’ve been in total disbelief the entire time. How could people POSSIBLY be so gullible?! Her divisiveness, mean-spiritedness, and total devotion to her own personal agenda and political goals are so transparent!
I’ve lost countless hours of sleep over the past two months, had disturbing dreams, and spent entirely too much time blogging. I’m pretty sure I’ve been written off as a nutcase by more than a few of my friends/relatives because of my rantings about this election, and especially about “the frightening absurdity that is Sarah Palin”. The fact that a McCain staffer actually admitted that yes, Sarah truly IS a Whack Job, just makes me want to dance like a wild chipmunk on the dining room table. YES!!! Someone finally SEES it! The truth is finally emerging from behind the thin veneer of Sarah Palin’s “public persona”. She is, very much indeed, a scary, dangerous, woman, and probably a poster child for narcissistic personality disorder.
Oh, happy day!
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she is a whack job………….donhja no it…..youbech ya

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Krystal(22:32:08) :

Random thought before I go to bed:

Had interesting idea today. It seems to me that Mccain throughout the whole campaign was constantly trying to trap, box in or corner Obama on one thing or another. As it didn’t work, he got more and more frustrated. Nothing he did could ever shake him. The pundits all claimed that Obama was slow to respond to the Palin bump but I disagree. They kept on track, never going off message or buying into the media hysterics. Prime example, calling off the debate to “save America.” They thought Obama would fold or at least show some hesitation about the whole thing. Obama coolly and coldly called his bluff and Mccain was left with egg on his face. The same really could have been said about Clinton though I didn’t follow the primary well enough to say for sure.

Anyhow, what struck me is how successful Obama is going to be in regards to foreign policy. If he treats our enemies and frenimes like did Mccain, he will be pretty successful. Most of presidential diplomacy is like the biggest staring contest in the world anywaze, waiting to see who will look away first. If his election run is any sign (and why wouldn’t it be?), Obama is going to be a tough mofo that many of these guys don’t see coming. However, and here’s the beauty of it, the same pragmatic and realistic streak will go along way towards then gaining their respect.

It should be interesting to watch.

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biglake (sack panther hussein)(22:33:59) :

@Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca
Jeez. It’s like Repubs are from Venus and Dems are from Mars.

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Tha’s what my mate and I were shaking our heads about last night.
Surely any sane person would not automatically come up with the answers we keep hearing.
OK, so they aren’t all on koolaid, but they’re quick to jump on the Spin Talk Express.

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Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(22:34:33) :

SMR (22:05:01) :

Love the signs! And there was CASSIE JEEP!!! It is such a treat to get to put faces with names.

Regarding Olbermann I think it was a play on Hispanic accents with yo transmuting into jo it was rather lame. Oh well.
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Maybe “jo” is code for O.J. And, maybe McPalin’s weekend strategy is to say that Barack Obama was O.J.’s paid assassin that killed Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman. The GOP plans to demonstrate as proof an Obama Hand Sculpture fits the glove left at the 1994 crime scene. The RNC will also put former LAPD detective Mark Fuhrman on the stump in western PA where he will endorse the McPalin ticket laying out the timeline that clearly shows how a 33 year old Barack Obama was able to teach a University of Chicago constiutional law class in the morning, register fake voters for ACORN in the afternoon, fly to L.A. and assassinate two innocent victims at sunset, fly home in time for a nightcap with Bill Ayers and Weather Underground before ushering midnight mass at Rev Dr Jeremiah wright’s trinity unity church of christ where he organized a post-midnight mass roundtable to discuss readings of Karl Marx.

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Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein(22:40:32) :

Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca (22:22:00) :

These Repubs are so into LockStep they fail to understand how independent Dems are and how we prize uniqueness.

Jeez. It’s like Repubs are from Venus and Dems are from Mars.
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Seeing how Mars is the red planet and Roman god of war, and Venus the sexy, sensitive nurturing, bluish side, I’d have to say Repubs are from Mars, and Dems are from Venus.

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Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(22:42:24) :

biglake (sack panther hussein) (22:33:59) :

Surely any sane person would not automatically come up with the answers we keep hearing.
OK, so they aren’t all on koolaid, but they’re quick to jump on the Spin Talk Express.
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I really believe they get talking points. They would have to for so many to come out saying the very same thing the very same way.

Repubs like big daddy authority. And they tow the line. Which is bad when the leader is someone less than capable (BUSH or SheBush–if the election nightmare happens). This willingness to follow the leader means the Repubs will be a formiddable minority in the Congress. And lets make sure they get the chance to prove it. HA.

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Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(22:45:17) :

Scrimshaw, I’m with you. I actually thought about reversing the order when I wrote it. So let it be known that Dems are from Venus and Repubs are from Mars.

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Bea(22:46:10) :

SMR (22:05:01) :
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What GREAT pics!! Is that your little girl in the pink T? Adorable.

Love the reference to Palin as “Spongebrain Squarespecs” on one of the signs. LOL.

You should re-post these in the bedtime thread whenever it goes up so the morning folks can enjoy them too.

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SMR(22:47:02) :

@Denise: Glad you could see the signs. That was me with the sign that I told Cassie Jeep I’d carry for her. Where in the hell is she these days anyway? Haven’t seen her on here for ages. I never go over to the Forum — that’s too much work for me, only did it tonight to figure out the flickr stuff… Is she hanging out over there these days? Do you know?

@Big Al: I will try not to edit out my bitchy thoughts in the future. You will be my role model from here on out. I’m sure that I cannot manage the great humor that you bring to the table though. Love your newsflashes.

I wish that we could have a big real-life mudflats reunion someday. Everyone here is so wonderful. I’m not a big hugger, but I just want to hug all of my mudbuddies! I will be moving to Calgary after our eldest graduates in May, so I will at least be closer to the lower 48, maybe catch some of you eventually. We visit Washington regularly (family there) — maybe some golden day…

Must go to sleep now. Have horrible cold that I caught from the toddler. It’s vile & I am feeling like death warmed over.

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Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(22:50:40) :

SMR, Feel better soon. Lots of fluids and rest is prescribed.

I haven’t kept up with Cassie Jeep’s location. You looked great in the photo. And that was extra special nice to carry the sign for Cassie. We have all made such great friends here.

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Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(22:52:17) :

Lots of fluids and rest ARE prescribed.

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Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon(22:55:31) :

Dianna,

20 Obama ’08 rally signs and ONE Alaska for Obama rally sign on the way! You go girl.

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Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(22:55:56) :

Sweet dreams to those on the Mudflats.

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Aussie Puck Mule Hussein(22:59:48) :

Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon (22:55:31) :

Dianna,

20 Obama ‘08 rally signs and ONE Alaska for Obama rally sign on the way! You go girl.
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‘Alaska for Obama’ is going to look soooo cool in Mississippi! What a shame nobody thought to distribute them all over the US.😉

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Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(22:59:57) :

Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon,

Glad to see you! Hey, did you ever see where I was trying to compliment you on your letter? I hope you did see my reply to your question; if not, scroll on back through the archives. Because I thought the letter was a brave act. And your observations are validated by various Alaskans.

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SMR(23:00:00) :

@Bea — Yes, that’s our little one in the pink T. Our eldest (we only have 2) holding her spongebrain squarespecs sign. Me holding the Cassie Jeep sign that I made at the request of a long-time mudflatter (from Mississippi?) so that she could be there in spirit…

I will take your advice and re-post the link to the photos on the bedtime thread when I wake in the morning. Or one of you can post it for me on the bedtime thread if you are willing, as I don’t think I’ll make it that long…

My favorite photo, as I was explaining on a different thread, is the one of Lottie with the little friend she made at the rally. Both of them holding up their Obama signs (made with the paper & crayons that Lottie has to carry with her everywhere we go — Charlotte only able to write O & B back then). To me it’s a symbol of all that’s beautiful about Obama’s campaign — different races uniting, brought together for one person, Obama, and one theme, Hope.

Night all!

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testerm(23:02:15) :

Good nite all. Here’s a link to an actual vote being flipped. Let’s make sure we all vote and get many others to vote. They may be able to steal some votes, but we can overwhelm them with numbers they just can’t ignore. Hope is so much better than fear.

I just read over on HuffPo that Elisabeth Hasselbeck says Obama’s half-hour campaign ad is “repulsive”. They quoted her exact words and I swear it reads exactly the same as Sarah Palin’s word-soup. What’s with these overly-cute women unable to string together a coherent set of sentences?

“Obviously both sides are trying to run and create image. So if we use this as, so they both have funds and are creating an image, making sure their candidates are where they need to be seen, as they need to be. I find it completely then repulsive to then – if we want to look at spending – see how Barack Obama now is going to spend what $3 million on two thirty minute ads that are going to run this week.”

I have to finish reading this thread, but there’s a new thread up about the opening of the Mudflats Store!!

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mwTHATONE40yrsAnchorage(23:24:45) :

Big Al from Las Vegas (22:37:36) : ……cracked me up on that last rant of yours; it really could be what They think, but you do have gifts of expression/fantasy/humor….. Looking forward to hearing of the book you must be writing.

When she says, Joe the plummer, Connie the hairdresser, Ted the accountant, Bob the mechanic, etc, etc, etc, she never mentions, Sarah the liar or Sarah the phoney or Sarah the grandmother does she?

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InJuneau aka Wrangler Tractor That One Hussein(23:36:39) :

@Aussie Puck Mule Hussein (22:59:48) :

…Alaska for Obama’ is going to look soooo cool in Mississippi! What a shame nobody thought to distribute them all over the US.

Over on the Forum I reported that we’d sent one to my in-laws in PA. They put it up and have had at least one “little old lady” (this from my over 70 year old FIL!) knock on the door and tell them she was happy to see it. She said that politics is a young man’s game and McCain is too old and anyway, that Sarah Palin is a ditz! FIL agreed with her! And he’s been telling off the McCain pollsters too!

Sent one to my grandmother in OR too. She bleeds Democratic blue blood like the rest of us, so she loved it and put it up.

Spreading the word that not all Alaskan like the “diva/whack job/mavericky rogue”!

I was completely moved by this. I wish you were Sandie the Whatever in the national media discourse, as opposed to the really contrived Joe the Plumber.

Really, this took me aback and in the best possible way. I agree wholeheartedly and share your opinion. I completely get it.

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Martha Unalaska Rally Sign Toon(23:47:28) :

Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca (22:59:57) :

I did find it, thank you! I answered you in that post, then tried in another… sorry you missed my response. I was all riled up after I wrote my third letter to our fascist governor and I completely misread you all the way, 100% bonehead, 100% obtuse. I appreciated your response very much and pretty much felt like a dunce.

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Dianna(23:48:46) :

Martha,

This is amazing! I am thrilled to tell everyone that signs are coming from Juneau, Alaska to right here in MS. This is such a great story and great teamwork. I spent quite awhile on BO’s website tonight and now need some sleep. Just about 3:00 here. Most of these signs will probably be displayed by Choctaws, as that is my neighborhood. I live on a Choctaw Reservation.
Thank you, Martha and talk to you tomorrow. Thank you, all.
Goodnight. Sweet dreams of victory.

And another thing, I’m getting damm tired of hearing about conservatism! The national debt is eleven trillion dollars. Seventy percent of which has been accrued in the last eight years by conservatives no less. What has been conserved? Our constitution has been wrecked our economy has been wrecked and they want to continue on this insane path with pledges of “I’ll fix whats wrong”, “Sarah the Liar” herself said that she and John will balance the budget in four years! They don’t deserve a chance. Never should she or McCain be allowed near the national cash register. You have a sitting Senator with seven felony convictions that is allowed to continue making laws that everyone else must obey and yet the average Joe the exconvict is stripped of his right to vote.
Our troubles lie soley at the feet of the republican party and theirs alone. If they get busted doing something wrong, why they just go back and amend the rules because they believe it doesn’t apply to them while the rest of the average people in this country are crushed into submission by righteous freaks of supremacy.

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Suzanne(23:57:47) :

What have you heard up in Alaska about the results of SP and Todd’s depositions last Friday? Any results yet?

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New Boston Yankee(00:16:57) :

I too (like many other concerned progressives) juggle conspiracy theories concerning an emergence of October surprises. One involves a 2001 Obama interview that the McCain campaign is apparently trying to get its hands on. I haven’t read the entire text yet on Huffington Post, but I would guess that by tomorrow, Sarah Palin will be attacking on a new front.

At the same time, I am intrigued (not overjoyed, just intrigued) by the news that Vanity Fair has been pursuing a story on an alleged McCain car crash that occurred 40 years ago (visions of Chappaquidick) just OUTSIDE the gates of a Navy installation and resulted in the hospitalization of McCain and the death or hospitalization of another person.

The Navy gathered the records and filed them away.

Through the Freedom of Information Act, Vanity Fair (along with at least one wire service) has attempted since August to get the Navy to release the 1964 accident records; nevertheless, the Navy asserts that any information it might release would cause far more harm than enlightenment, at least so close to the election.

It seems that both McCain and Palin have led charmed lives, at least in their abilities to previously sidestep personal scandal.

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Martha Unalaska Yard Sign Toon(00:29:07) :

Suzanne (23:57:47) :

Nothing yet on the Troopergate Sequel. AKM always manages to get the first whiff…very astute that one.. I believe AKM has a wide net cast on all of Southcentral AK. Add that to mudpuppies elsewhere in AK & great technology for posting – it’s pretty good roundup. Roundup? No cows or sheep in Juneau, don’t know where that came from. Oh what the heck, it’s late and I’m going to bed, too.

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trig or treat(01:05:15) :

“Joe Wurzelbacher, a.k.a. “Joe the Plumber,” said Friday he may consider running for Congress in 2010, challenging longtime Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D) in the Toledo-area district.

I have a question for BigLake or any Akkers in the know: Would Mike Richter, VP of BP/Conoco/Arco/Phillips BP- be related to either Eric Richter (formerly of Alaska PDF) or Scott Richter (of sharing investments with the Palin’s fame)?
Does he also reside in BigLake?

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austintx(02:42:01) :

Marty – way down the post – but here goes- I have a buddy here in Austin who I have known 25 yrs. He is a Dr. and employs 55 employees at 2 clinics that he owns. We have literally cried on each others shoulders over our respective divorces. We can candidly talk about anything. BUT……when this election comes up……..he goes batshit…….the blinders go on and the lame-ass talking points spew forth……..he has even used the “n” word………..he is smart and funny….but I dunno no more……..his main rant is “taxes”…….I’m sad for him….

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Susie in Jersey(02:54:08) :

I’ve read only the up-thread comments but just had to hop in now and say that last week I was talking to our CFO, who is voting for McCain and has said he “has to like Palin” (IOW, he doesn’t approve of her but he has to accept her). His words to me were “I’ve worked hard for my money and I don’t want it given to anybody else.”

That statement, along with the statements another acquaintance has made to me that she is going to lose her house and end up in the women’s shelter under Obama, leads me to believe that many repubs are totally selfish and in life for themselves (and their families) only and anyone else be damned.

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End the End Times(03:23:05) :

@ ian in hamburg–Don’t know if you’ll see this, your post was way up there, but as far as “don’t count her out,” yes, remember how long it took Grigori Rasputin to go down?

@ Sourdough Mullet Hussein Palin–Boy, I thought it was hard feeling like this since she’s been governor..you really have been living a frayed existence..

If Palin does babble up from the 7 mountains once again after the lipschtick bungle:

Newly formed groups set to align themselves in 2012 for Palin:

Galactic Federation of Tanning

National Association for Dividin’ America

Stateswomen for A National Ban on Fake Media

Focus on the Fannies, Forget about the Freddies

(I had one that may be too mean, so I’m bitin’ my tongue, or in this case, restraining my fingers)

Well, I think our whack job (I live in Juneau, Alaska),
will at least always have global dimensions. : )

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West Virginian aka Halter Grasshopper Palin(03:29:58) :

I realize that I’m a bit prejudice, but are all the Repub ads mean and ugly? I see Obama’s ads and for the most part it’s just him saying what he’ll do.

I watch Pittsburgh channels in the AM for news and I feel as if all I’ve seen this morning are McCain ads. I thought they were running out of money??

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0whole1(03:31:40) :

Susie in Jersey (02:54:08) :
>That statement, along with the statements another acquaintance has made to me that she is going to lose her house and end up in the women’s shelter under Obama, leads me to believe that many repubs are totally selfish and in life for themselves (and their families) only and anyone else be damned.

That in a nutshell is it. I commented on one of the Atlantic’s articles that I thought the GOP’s current rep was that it didn’t care about helping folks, and that this needed to change if it was going to be attractive to voters. The reply I received was along the lines that Democratic candidates that professed to wanting to help folks were either being unrealistic or were cynically misrepresenting their (selfish) intentions.

It was if the replier intrinsically could not understand selflessness.

To tell the truth, I’d prefer this as an explanation for the rabid response the right has to Obama — that they just can’t understand selfless motives so they’re searching around for the hidden agenda. Unfortunately, I think it’s just racism, plain and simple.

29102008

Ripley_6 AKA Copper Hussein Catfish in CT(04:14:47) :

Bigger than any gaffe attributed to Joe the Biden is SWWNBN using the term “Joe mama” in her stump speech as her favorite sign.

Making fun of the Hispanic/Latino population only isolates her and her party from the colorful fabric of this society oven more. I hope she pays for that. BIG.

She’s supremely unqualified to be VP, and she’s even more unqualified to be a decent human being. I no longer feel sorry for anyone who is attracted to her hyperbole and external personna. She’s got evil in her bones. Rapture? Doubt it.

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kate aka chin duststrap(05:08:09) :

What I loved about the Keith clip was how uncomfortable McCain and Palin looked next to each other. They both avoided looking at one another and while it was a short clip, he only seems to acknowledge her once.

West Virginian: I think McCain has reallocated his resources. Looks like he’s done if he doesn’t win PA so a lot of the money is being spent here now, and particularly in the western parts of the state. Seems like an odd strategy to me, PA hasn’t gone Repub in 20 years!

29102008

you're kidding,right? aka Slap Spear Hussein(06:02:38) :

KO showed Palin doing her “Joe the Plumber, Cindy the Citizen” shtick, then she said her favorite was “Joe Mama”. That’s where the yomama, jomama KO quote came from.

29102008

DonnaInMichigan(06:42:37) :

I don’t believe that Sarah Palin will rise to be the HEAD of the Republican Party.

McCain will make damn sure that doesn’t happen. After their loss next week, he will make it KNOWN that it was her fault. Of course, it won’t be HIS fault for picking someone so obviously not prepared for the office of vice president.

But anyhoo.

Everyone should remember that what Alaska has here, is a Governor that has already been PROVEN that she abuses her power of office, and is unethical. We don’t know when or how the Personnel Board is going to decide. But if and just IF they find her guilty as well, she is going to be put into a situation where her political career is dead.

McCain/Palin is requesting that Senator Ted Stevens resigns, because he is now a convicted felon. Yet, NO one is calling for the Governor of Alaska, after being found GUILTY of abuse of power, and unethical behavior, by the Alaskan Legislation, to resign. That to me, is hypocritical.

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biscuitmom(07:23:33) :

The Obama campaign has hit the BULLSEYE with their latest campaign ad. ‘They’re targeting Palin at last!

“A new Barack Obama campaign ad targeting John McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin as his running mate is making buzz not so much for what it says, but for what it doesn’t.

The 30-second spot is entirely without a narrator, and instead shows John McCain’s past statements appearing to acknowledge he lacks expertise on economic issues.

“I’m going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated,” McCain said in a 2005 interview with the Wall Street Journal.

A quote from McCain in a November 2007 CNN/YouTube debate is also shown, when the Arizona senator said, “I might have to rely on a vice president that I select…”

(The Obama campaign says McCain was particularly talking about relying on the VP for the economy, though McCain was describing a wide range of issues.)

A graphic is then shown displaying the question, “His choice?” — before showing Sarah Palin winking at the vice presidential debate.”

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biscuitmom(07:25:33) :

The Obama campaign has hit the BULLSEYE with their latest campaign ad. ‘They’re targeting Palin at last!

“A new Barack Obama campaign ad targeting John McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin as his running mate is making buzz not so much for what it says, but for what it doesn’t.

The 30-second spot is entirely without a narrator, and instead shows John McCain’s past statements appearing to acknowledge he lacks expertise on economic issues.

“I’m going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated,” McCain said in a 2005 interview with the Wall Street Journal.

A quote from McCain in a November 2007 CNN/YouTube debate is also shown, when the Arizona senator said, “I might have to rely on a vice president that I select…”

(The Obama campaign says McCain was particularly talking about relying on the VP for the economy, though McCain was describing a wide range of issues.)

A graphic is then shown displaying the question, “His choice?” — before showing Sarah Palin winking at the vice presidential debate.”

29102008

Freethinking(07:35:50) :

Marty (VA) Hussein Queen Grifter Failin (20:47:29) :

About your doctor, the Ortho….. he’s almost surely an authoritarian follower.
It used to drive me crazy trying to figure out why people thought like that…. until I found out what some psychologists have know for quite a while. They will follow perceived authority (to their own detriment and everyone else’s) right over a cliff!

This study completely opened my eyes to how the “sheep” think and feel …
John Dean heavily referenced this study in his book “Conservatives Without Conscience”

from the book: “The studies explain so much about these people. Yes, the research shows they are very aggressive, but why are they so hostile? Yes, experiments show they are almost totally uninfluenced by reasoning and evidence, but why are they so dogmatic? Yes, studies show the Religious Right has more than its fair share of hypocrites, from top to bottom; but why are they two-faced, and how come one face never notices the other? Yes, their leaders can give the flimsiest of excuses and even outright lies about things they’ve done wrong, but why do the rank-and-file believe them? What happens when authoritarian followers find the authoritarian leaders they crave and start marching together?

29102008

Rob in Santa Cruz, Ca(08:50:11) :

McCain has no say in the future of the Republican Party. They didn’t want him this year, and they will blame him for the loss as well. The far right is going to try to take over the party and will probably do so for some time to come.
I think Sarah Palin will be central to this new Republican Party unless her legal problems destroy her…and I think she will survive those. The Republican base is going to keep her out there in the news and use her to consolidate their hold on the party.
The good news is that by doing so, they will make it hard for the party to gain much real power. They will still not be able to attract the center, and the independents. The right wing will just stand around making each other feel good about each other.
Just my opinion….

29102008

chelseabites(10:26:37) :

I’m amazed by the incredible amount of public interest in Sarah Palin. Good or bad, she’s become somewhat of a pop icon. People are dressing like her to be and/or mock her all at the same time.

The largest group supporting McCain is wealthy white men, mostly older wealthy white men. Their problem this year is likely that there are fewer and fewer of the very wealthy as the wealth has failed to trickle-down to a broader spectrum of folks and we all face the vast abyss of the economic fallout of their making.

The Queen of Narnia can’t decide if she is for “spreading the wealth” as she has said:
“And Alaska – we’re set up, unlike other states in the union, where it’s collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs.”

Or she thinks spreading the wealth is a bad thing she and McCain keep accusing Obama of proposing to do.

I asked a few McCain supporters tonight. “Could you see John McCain doing an ad that showed him caring for Americans in the same way Obama did tonight”?
Even the most livid McCain supporter admitted that Sen. Obama looked more Presidential and presented himself as “the one”. The one who millions will vote for and elect as our new President. I do not fault anyone who accepts that he or she made a mistake in choosing McCain. It’s time to pick yourself up and come on over to the Obama camp. You are welcome to join at any time.http://www.ObamasPrayer.com

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dsr(11:14:09) :

was gone from home last night, but i taped obama’s 30 minute “get to know me” show. looking forward to watching it tonight. my daughter said it was really good and didn’t mention mccain or palin at all.
i have a hard time believing that obama isn’t alot further ahead of mccain. he would be so far ahead if he was white. i hope everyone that goes out to vote stop and think about what will happen if palin would become president. it is so scary to me. at least biden is capable of being president. i think alot of republicans don’t know what to think about palin. she talks alot, but you don’t know what she says. she goes in circles.
and what about that nut “joe the plummer”( that he’s not) ?? he says he likes the quiet life so why is he doing all the tv stuff he’s doing? if i didn’t want the limelight, i’d just say NO. he’s a big joke, and mccain will use anyone or thing to get elected. go obama

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Actongue(16:10:41) :

What we maybe Seeing here from this point forward is 3 Parties

The Republicans get back to where they used to be.
Democrats for the most part stay Status Quo

The Radical Right splinters off and becomes its on Party and they elect Palin to be its dictator
(Radical right then becomes a blip on the Radar and from hence forth poses no future threat to the United States)