Tuesday, May 8, 2007

When did Kurt decided to stage his death

Well as I said yesterday in my post Kurt's personal life was a mess excepting Frances , which I think is the main reason why Kurt didn't commit suicide. We have to remember that Kurt didn't have a childhood and I as a sensible soul he was and is I think he couldn't do the same thing to his child. I personally think that Kurt decided to stage his death long time before the day he "committed suicide". I also think that he wasn't alone in this plan, and Courtney was beside him all the way. Not for free of course but she had to help Kurt realizing his plan. She only got in return fame and money , just enough for her. One episode that I can remember is the Rome incident where Courtney was shouting loud that Kurt was suicidal and that was a suicide attempt ... False Another lie by Courtney was that in his last days Kurt was suicidal and chaotic ... False ... If you look at "The last 48 hours of Kurt Cobain" there was a girl named Katia , who meet Kurt one day before his "death" and she describe Kurt as being happy. Another thing Katia said was that she remarked the joy and the light of Kurt's eyes ... So that was the state of Kurt one day before "suicide". I would say this is the state for a man who is sure he soon will get a new and better life. As for Courtney she only followed Kurt's plan , to create a diversion so that everybody would think Kurt committed suicide.

Well, I would like to say, even as a huge Cobain fan, that most people before they commit suicide, are very happy, and joyous, not down and deppressed, thats why when someone does kill themself you always hear people say "but they were such a happy person" or something like that. So if he did commit suicide then that is why he was happy and joyous before hand.s

about that video, the original song doesnt make a lot of sense, and then when its backwards it solves the puzzle. "Do you know what im singing?" if you think about it, maybe just maybe she chose those words on purpose "might last day, yeah minus forever"...what??? Think About It .keo.

he killed himself. You can see all signs. And as the guy said up : people about to commit suicide are happy, because this is the end of pain.

He was addict to heroine, scandalously famous and feeling ashamed, about to divorce with courtney (the divorce of his parents was a trauma for him), and he was fucked up, like trapped, always with this feeling of being guilty...

He shot himself. Why will he sacrifice someone else to get a fuckin "new anonymous life", with no papers etc, that is fantasy, man!!!! wake up :)

Or maybe the "mysteries" about his death reveal that he been killed. But.... hm. He was suicidal.

prior to suicide people have been known to appear happy because they have finally decided they are going to depart this place and they would be exited like a child knowing that they were going to disney land.however i believe he was murdered and here is the proof on http://www.cobaincase.com/

".One Courtney love is claiming six Cobain's"fraud that's right Some one is using his ID,and withdraw-ling billions of dollars... Alive.. He stage it after he found out that Herion was ruining his own life." So in other words with plans with the rape me video he staged it some time after than once his CD came out he was found dead with a shot in his hands and a suicide note laid near by.)

you make a good point...i fdon't care what people say i think kurt staged his death to get away from the spotlight.....here look at this i wrote it a back when i was living in puerto rico for a few years.

I do not know if Kurt Cobain is dead or alive, but wouldn`t people have been able to have a close look at the body and prove it is kurt? or not kurt.I`d normally just think he committed suicide ( He seemed to be so on drugs and alcohol. I could understand if he didn`t want to live anymore), but there are so many facts that he didn`t. It is too mysterious!

this blog is bizzare!! dont you all think that SOMEBODY would have recognised him? Also he really is dead, you say he staged his death because he couldnt kill himself coz of frances ... he was an addict, surely if anything was going to make him sort himself out it was parenthood ... it didnt, he was a manic depressive with a drug habit, what more prove do you need??? oh yeah i saw elvis yesterday ....

You seem to be off I live here in in Olympia know his family and just happened on this sight we all K now Courtney had him killed with their drug connects!I said that very carefully!This is Olympia she best never show her face around here again!

I think you are right. That Kurt staged his own death because he wanted a better life in a different body. Rumor says that Kurt is in a famous band under a new name and new face but that he still sings and plays guitar...

look i am a HUGE cobain fan but i think he wouldnt pretend t be dead cuz baisically he was lasy look he wouldnt even tidy up a little bit for tracy marrander (ex-girlfriend) so y wud he o through this much hassle and ppl say that there was two sets of handwriting thats bcuz he wrote on 2 different surfaces and he sais he would outlive every1 but that was 1 f his many fantasies but he also said he would b a superstar muscian kill himself and go out in a flame of glorybaisically wat im sayin is nobody nos and probaly no1 will ever noR.I.P. kurt cobain

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If Dylan Carlson(Kurt's best friend) knew Kurt was suicidal, why did he buy the shotgun for Kurt? Why were there no fingerprints found on the shotgun, the ejected shell or the pen used in his supposed 'suicide' note?Why was there a note in Courtney’s bag that shows she was practicing handwriting?Why were all the tyres on Kurt’s Volvo flat? Why was Kurts credit card still being used after his death?Why were items logged into evidence in the case turned back over to Courtney before the case was even 30 days old? Why did Courtney pretend to be Kurt's mother when calling in the missing person's report to the SPD on April 4th? Why didn't Courtney go back to Seattle to help locate and maybe save her "suicidal husband"? Why hasn't Courtney sued Tom Grant for his claims, but yet sues everyone else on a spin of a dime?

Why did Courtney pretend to be Kurt's mother when calling in the missing person's report to the SPD on April 4th? Why didn't Courtney go back to Seattle to help locate and maybe save her "suicidal husband"?Why hasn't Courtney sued Tom Grant for his claims, but yet sues everyone else on a spin of a dime? make website in flashcharity video production

to be honest well i am anyways; that really sounds like it COULD be true but even if it is true or not why are you obsessed with weather he commited suicide.? fuck iv tried and im not even 17 yet and nobody gave a fuck ,but i think to if i were in shoes that i wouldnt let go what i loved the most even though im deeply depressed; therefore i would make everyone go along with the fact that im dead to bring less attention to myself. so have some empathy dude and drop this subject would you lke someone putting your shit and lives out in the open ;idk ; but i wouldnt and you should feel that way to.-tessa

The girls name was actually Caitlin. Caitlin Moore.I've seen so many factual inaccuracies in your writing that I can't take you seriously AT ALL.

Kurt is dead. I wish with all my heart that he wasn't, but he is.Kurt did not kill himself though-Kurt was murdered.It's as simple as that.Unlike you, I have gathered evidence, and researched the entire year leading up to his supposed "suicide", and anyone who even entertains the idea that he's still alive, has obviously not done their homework.

Courtney Love had Kurt Cobain murdered. She did not kill him herself, but she hired someone to do the dirty work for her.

If you are a Nirvana, or Kurt Cobain fan, you NEED to get as many names as possible together, and send them to the Seattle Police Dep, insisting that Kurt Cobain's case is re-opened, and that Tom Grant be allowed to argue his case.Tom Grant has evidence-HARD EVIDENCE-that will prove, beyond ANY type of doubt, that Kurt Donald Cobain was murdered, and that Courtney Love masterminded the entire plot.

The girls name was actually Caitlin. Caitlin Moore.I've seen so many factual inaccuracies in your writing that I can't take you seriously AT ALL.

Kurt is dead. I wish with all my heart that he wasn't, but he is.Kurt did not kill himself though-Kurt was murdered.It's as simple as that.Unlike you, I have gathered evidence, and researched the entire year leading up to his supposed "suicide", and anyone who even entertains the idea that he's still alive, has obviously not done their homework.

Courtney Love had Kurt Cobain murdered. She did not kill him herself, but she hired someone to do the dirty work for her.

If you are a Nirvana, or Kurt Cobain fan, you NEED to get as many names as possible together, and send them to the Seattle Police Dep, insisting that Kurt Cobain's case is re-opened, and that Tom Grant be allowed to argue his case.Tom Grant has evidence-HARD EVIDENCE-that will prove, beyond ANY type of doubt, that Kurt Donald Cobain was murdered, and that Courtney Love masterminded the entire plot.

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As with all of the comments on this blog, this is just my opinion. I have been troubled by Kurt's "suicide" since I was 14 and it was reported on MTV. Then, I read the High Times magazine which mentioned about a possible murder. I have been through the gamut of Kurt's "suicide," even buying Tom Grant's manual and audio tape quite a long time ago.

In my current opinion, after reading much more on the internet (which includes so many different viewpoints as to be very mind-reeling, the internet's not too good for research), I have a few things to say.

If Kurt committed suicide by shooting himself in the head with a shotgun, he was not the man alot of people think him to be, and was a selfish jerk, in a way. He should have known there would be copy-cat suicides and if he was "empathetic" with everyone, he wouldn't have done it like that. Just OD on heroin (he supposedly had more left next to him in the cigar box) and end your life like that, sad, but no copy-cat suicides, just maybe some more heroin users out there either being more cautious, or others not doing it at all.

If he faked his own death, then it is very similar to the suicide theory. He would not be the Kurt we all thought we knew. He would be a jerk for the copy-cat suicides due to him using a shotgun to finalize the ruse. Again, why not just an OD? Also, why so many weird circumstances surrounding his death being let out and existing? Mystery effect? Maybe. If he was such a jerk as to stage his death by a shotgun blast, it could mean he was part of an Illuminati-type conspiracy, whereby they led us on with his songs, interviews, pictures, etc., and then staged a death to bring "us" down. After all, you can't make it in the "show business" without being let in, and it's not always about money. You have to be given air-time, and as we've heard of MK-ULTRA over the years, and music being involved, this could all be plausible, though it could have back-fired and they had him murdered to cover something up or just to break his "followers" or to silence him. All possibilities. But if he faked his own death, no, do not "leave him alone and let him be", he is responsible for many suicides following his death. He would be an "insider" who came, saw, and conquered.

Speaking of which, let's bring Geffen into the mix. Nobody seems to mention him. Do you know that Geffen records was funded 100 percent in their start-up by Warner Bros. Records? Geffen was also Vice-President of Warner Brothers Pictures for awhile. This is all hollywood, and we know that means they know how to appeal to people's emotions and minds and get their money/control them. Here's a kicker, Geffen Records made it big off of John Lennon and Yoko Ono's final record, released on Geffen Records after just signing with them, and he was killed after its initial release just three weeks after it entered the charts, bolstering sales and making the company a huge profit that sealed them in, basically, as a record label. Was Geffen involved? What about with Kurt? Could Kurt have been getting ready to really quit the "showbiz" and Geffen decided on how to get more money off of a staged suicide, maybe even involving Courtney in one way or another?

Another theory I read on one of these blog pages here is that Kurt might have OD'd accidentally and then they faked the suicide by shotgun to bring a legacy. I would question the needle marks on both elbows, again, as there would at least be manslaughter involved in this case, as the other arm would probably have been administered a dose by someone other than Kurt. But, the supposed fact that there was only a little blood visible coming from one of his ears seems to indicate that he was dead already when he received a shot to his head, as else there should have been more blood leakage as the heart continued pumping for a little bit longer.

Now we get to Courtney. She's the one with most eyes on her regarding the murder theory, and El Duce's statements and passed polygraph seem to support those who believe in the murder theory. I've been personally blaming her for years, but the other possibilities mentioned above are all possible as well. This answer does seem the most likely, but there are so many factors to control that I think it might be hard for her to stage Kurt's suicide, and keeping it looking like one while getting away with it, without alot of different people acting in unison. It is possible for this to have all been done, but there would have to be people higher than Courtney involved and helping, in my opinion.

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i hope he's alive and well and having a new life, there's an article that i've read in : http://www.notbored.org/kurdt.html

In the last week, a new joke has been added to the old one: not only does Kurt Cobain want his life back, he also wants money and credit cards and a mansion! It started on 5 March 2008, when Cobain's widow, Courtney Love -- a joke in her own right -- revealed that the Los Angeles Police Department was finally taking seriously her claim that thieves had stolen Kurt's identity (his social security number) and were using it to get credit cards (188 of them) and buy lots of neat stuff, including a $3 million mansion in New Brunswick, New Jersey. Apparently these thieves have stolen over $36 million from the Cobain estate, which was created to benefit Courtney and Kurt's only child, Frances Bean, who is now 15 years old. To make matters worse, or funnier, depending on your perspective, Courtney claims that she became aware of the identity theft and reported it to the police back in 2003, but "nobody believed me," because she had been, in her own words, "cuckoo, bananas." As if she is nothing but sober and sane these days! As if she herself has not stolen musical ideas from Kurt and the rights to his songs from his fellow band mates!

"I would like to know how [this could happen]" Courtney now says. And then, abruptly switching from the theft of her husband's identity to his apparent return from the dead, she joked, "He should probably get his ass back home if that is the case."

It didn't take long for the other jokes to start. "Kurt Bought a House Last Year," said The Sun on 7 March 2008. "Kurt Cobain Back From The Dead," announced the celebrity-baiting blogger Perez Hilton 8 March. "Kurt Cobain Lives An Hour Away From Me, Apparently," stated a blogger who writes for Cinema Blend on 9 March. "Kurt Cobain is alive and well" and "Kurt Cobain Going to Rutgers, Apparently," proclaimed The Philadelphia Weekly on 10 March 2008. "Kurt Cobain Still Living -- and Spending -- Like a Rock Star," announced a blogger writing for seattlest.com on 11 March. And, last but certainly not least, laaaadies and gentlemen, "Kurt's Zombie Identity Stolen. . . by Thieves," heckled a blogger writing for something called . . . hecklerspray.com on 12 March.

i dont know which one to believe but i'd rather believe that he is alive.