My Experience at the 911 Rally in NYC~Taking it to the Streets~ Videos

On Saturday I attended the 911 rally in NYC. Which was held in remembrance of the victims of 911, and against the proposed Ground Zero Mosque. Before I went there I had promotional materials, and flyers which outlined the threat of Sharia Law printed up. I also brought a camcorder with me, but outside of handing out the flyers, I was not exactly sure what my game plan was going to be. I figured I would play it by ear. When I got off the train I was a few blocks away from the main stage of the event. As I walked towards it, one of the first things I noticed was the large amount of people in favor of the Mosque (although they were greatly outnumbered). Being that this was my first time recording, navigating through the crowd and debating I didn’t do such a good job with the video. But I will use this as a learning experience, and do a much better job next time. (Or bring someone with me to do the recording.) But the audio you will hear in this video says it all. The first guy I spoke to was speaking out against “Islamophobia”, but at about the midway point of the video, I turn my attention to some guy who called me a bigot.

After those two encounters, I decided to head toward the stage while handing out my flyers. Along the way I saw this Muslim preaching the “Islam is peace” line. In the video, a non-Muslim states that Sharia Law is unconstitutional, but he messes up the argument by being too aggressive. The Muslim asked for the evidence, and I was going to get involved but the police made us clear the street. There will be another time….

WARNING: GRAPHIC LANGUAGE

After we were told to clear the street, I continued walking towards the stage, and noticed a few groups engaged in conversation. At this point I put away the camcorder, and started to hand out the flyers. The first crowd had a bunch of Muslims in it who were claiming to be “moderates”, but they were in support of the proposed Ground Zero Mosque. When I mentioned that I was there more for their religion more than the Mosque, and Muslim cannot be a moderate and support Sharia, one of the Muslims said they do not support Sharia. I told them they were not making sense because Imam Rauf is pro-Sharia.

I also mentioned that there are Mosques across America preaching for Sharia. A Muslim woman said they know, and I told her that she should go to those Mosques and protest against them. She did not respond to that, and then the usual talking points of the Crusades and Bible came into play. I let her know not to bother trying to change the subject, it does not work with me. Right around that point some Muslim guy who was with her group came right up beside me, and loudly asked what do I know about Sharia? When I started mentioning some of the laws of Sharia, he told me I was crazy and walked away. When I called for him to come back, he turned around with a big wisea$$ smirk on his face, and says he does not debate anyone who is crazy. First of all, if he is a “moderate” why is he is so defensive of Sharia, and if I am so crazy he should be able to refute my statements easily. But he did not.

The next person I encountered was a liberal woman, who was very polite and willing to listening. She was stating that not all Muslims are terrorists, and was standing up for Islam. So I let her know that Koran verses 8:12 and 8:13 condone terrorism, in the ahadith Mohammad admitted to being a terrorist. I also mentioned that the Koran states that the actions of Mohammad are to be followed for all times.

YUSUFALI: Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): “I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.”

Koran Verse 008.013
YUSUFALI: This because they contended against Allah and His Messenger: If any contend against Allah and His Messenger, Allah is strict in punishment.

Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand.” Abu Huraira added: Allah’s Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures (i.e. the Prophet did not benefit by them).

YUSUFALI: Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah.

She really didn’t respond to me, but like I said she was willing to listen and did take in the information. After speaking to her, I walked around handing out flyers and noticed one more circle of people. I did not hear which exact Koran verse they were talking about, but a non-Muslim and Muslim were arguing over one of them. The non-Muslims said it was violent, and of course the Muslim said it was not. The Muslim then said he has the Koran on his phone and he will pull it up. Wouldn’t you know it? The verse said exactly what the non-Muslim said, and the Muslim guy tried to spin it that the word fight, does not mean fight. No one was buying it, and he went silent.

On the side I was talking to another Muslim (Sunni) about Sharia, and jizya. He tried to make Sharia sound acceptable by saying jizya is paid for my protection, but I told him I will not pay any religious tax, especially for getting less rights in return. At that point it was announced the rally was over, and what was the most interesting part of the day was about to occur. Another non-Muslim and I were walking together towards the train, and right behind us was the Muslim that I had just been talking to. The three of us walked up the block, and had about a 10 minute friendly conversation about Islam. I went on to tell him what a bunch of verses of the Koran and ahadith said. Now I know Muslims lie a lot like their religion encourages them to, but I believe this guy was sincere. He swore he never heard of those verses, and I am not saying that I changed his mind, but in his eyes I could see sadness, concern, and confusion. At a minimum, the seed of truth had been planted. We shook hands and walked away.

For some reason this is not allowing me to reply directly to your article (?). I know you are not a Christian (or religious) but God will use people for his Will and I think you are definitely doing his Will by sharing the truth about Islam with Muslims as well as non-Muslims. Keep up the good work. And, yeah, maybe having a second person to handle the video would be a good idea. P.S. Love your accent (LOL!)

I’d suggest you do some practising until it becomes second nature to you. Then you’ll be able to concentrate on the subject matter and instinctively know what to do. It doesn’t take very long. A few hours practise at most.

Next year it is the 10th anniversary and my guess it will gather even more people than this year. I would have loved to attend but I don’t know at this moment how to finance the trip. NYC must be pretty awesome. I’ve never been to America, at least not in this lifetime. I had a couple of past-life regressions in the mid-90’s and one of those past lives was spent in the US, which didn’t surprise me because I like both your country and UK and I’m sure I’ve lived there before.

Unless I get banned for life for having insulted Odumbo of course but at least the cops haven’t paid me a visit yet. But then again, I believe they are even stricter dhimmis in UK since they already have a shitload of sharia-courts over there lol. But aside from that I would love to go to NYC and California for that matter.

Gailie

September 15, 2010 at 2:07 pm

Hey, thanks for mentioning that. I haven’t been on that site for a while. Gonna check it out now.

Yeah, that was perfect!!! Both of the comments were right to the point. People are idiots and it shows. How can you be racist against a religion? Unbelievable. And those Jews were such bigots to hate Hitler. I mean, come ON.

Wow – what a wonderful experience. Free speech and open debate in action!

It is true that, under the surface, most intelligent muslims are deeply ashamed of Muhummad’s behavior and the violent verses in the Quran, especially when a non-muslim points this out in a non aggressive manner. We need to remember that when discussing Islam with them.

Absolutely superb reporting! Wish I had been there. We can only hope those in Washington has seen and heard what you’ve been preaching and start to make changes to helping America defeat islam.
God bless.

An American, so you think that Muslims would walk away from the Qur’an if they read it. Maybe I’m a pessimist, but I believe more Muslims would embrace the violence contained in the Qur’an if they read it. The violent Muslims are devout Muslims, authentic Muslims. So maybe it would be better if Muslims never read the Qur’an. In fact, it would have been better if no one had read the Qur’an. Don’t you think?

I was soooo proud of you when I heard your eloquent quotes.
This is exactly what is needed. Out in the STREETS – a REAL debate. For all of America to see.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
For my part – I have been printing flyers and posting them where I can.
I take web page and print them and the links.
They are different with each printing, but I keep some – like the petitions – but change them up every now and again. And I go to different places. Thats my little contribution. Plus my website.
I have been having some issues with posting on other websites. I have a feeling it’s Chrome.
I hope this comment goes through

I was there too.
One Muslim tried to convince me that jihad means “personal struggle” (yawn). He said going to work to support your family is also ‘jihad.’
Another said, with a straight face, “911 had nothing to do with Islam.”
My sign said We Will Not Submit in Arabic nd English.

Christopher – you are MY HERO!!! Excellent questions. I think it is better to debate them on the facts and issues as well as the Qur’an, haddith and sira… Calling names only garners sympathy for THEM so maybe our next task is to educate people how to argue with them without sounding crazy and name calling. Your questions about what race is Muslim and the Jews opposing Nazis were brilliant! Love it!! Keep up the good work!!

Dear Christopher, Good footage, nice and raw just the way I like it. My sister, my future husband, and I were there Saturday and we were wishing we knew what you look like so we could meet you in person. It was a great experience for us in many ways. I’ll share a few highlights: We stayed at the Millenium Hilton which is at GZ and just before midnight we heard what sounded like the earth moving. I looked out the window and there was a huge contingent of bikers, thousands, rolling down Church St. to pay their respects to the 9-11 victims,awesome sight to behold!Some had “no mosque” and “allah sucks” stickers. We met some EDL members who told us that Tommy Robinson, the founder, was not allowed in the U.S. for some “visa irregularity” and they sent him back the the UK. We have a vid that my fiance took of a man doing a presentation of “the koran as toilet paper”, absolutely hysterical, a must see. I’d love to send it to you, he gave us permission to post it but we don’t have a web site. All the speakers at the rally were phenomenal and there was a priest, a minister, and a rabbi to begin it with prayers. Thanks for all you do and you’re always in my prayers.God Bless!!

Excellent job, wanted desperately to be there but had many family obligations on that day. Live in brooklyn and went to the last two. Would gladly hold the camera for you next time. Or if you need backup I would be happy to help!
You can contact me at the email address above.
Keep up th great work!

Maybe Chris should plan a meet up ahead of time (privately, of couse. No need to tip the koranimals off) so that everyone can coordinate and work together. These protests are gaining momentum and I hope the next one is even larger.

It is, of course, well-known that Islam alone, among the major non-Christian religions, arose after the emergence of Christianity. Most Muslims would deny this and would say that Islam has always been the religion of the righteous man. They would claim, for example, that Abraham and even Adam were Muslims. Nevertheless it remains true that the religion of Islam as we know it, with its sacred book, its law and many of its cultic features, began at a definite historical time (approximately AD 560-632, the lifetime of the prophet of Islam) and is particularly tied up with with life of a particular person named Mohammed and the community which he founded. The Cult Of The Moon God ”ALLAH”

In the 1950’s archaeology disproved the Muslim faith. A major temple to the Moon-god was excavated at Hazor in Palestine. This important discovery of science is recorded in “The Moon-god Allah in the archaeology of the Middle East” by Dr. Robert A. Morey. Two idols of the Moon-god Allah were found, proving that the Allah which Muslims around the world worship as the only true God was a pre-Islamic pagan deity! Photos at the escavation of Allah sitting on a throne show the crescent moon, the symbol of the Islamic faith. Yet these Moon-god statues were made long before the Islamic faith was founded. With this in mind, let’s look at a brief history of Islam. Sometime near the middle of the sixth century AD Mohammed, the yet to be Prophet of Islam, went to the city of Mecca, Arabia, where was located a pagan temple called the Kabah which housed 360 idols, including the Moon-god Allah! Mohammed was forced to flee Mecca with his small band of followers when his religious teachings were rejected there. He wanted to create his own religion and went to the Sabeans in Arabia who worshipped the three daughters of Allah, three idols to demon goddesses. Upon coming to the city of Al Medina, he declared that he was the Prophet of Allah sent to them. They militarily followed him, and by the sword they converted Arabia to the new Muslim faith, killing all who refused to convert to Islam. Violence has plagued Islam from its very inception, and as the new leader of the Muslim faith, Mohammed did not hesitate to rob and kill as a way of life. Concerning Mohammed’s private life, he had a large harem, and at one time he even took away the wife of his adopted son and had sex with her when she was a child of only nine years old.

IS MOHAMMED INFALLIBLE?

According to the Muslim faith, Mohammed is infallible and you cannot doubt anything he ever said. For example, in Hadith 543-Vol. 4, it is stated by Mohammed that the earth is flat, not round, and has to be balanced by the mountains. Furthermore, when the sun goes down each night, it goes into a muddy spring according to Mohammed in Sahih 41:9-10. That, of course is contrary to what we have learned through science, yet Mohammed is right and science is wrong, at least according to the Muslim faith! Our first Adam was 90 feet tall according to Mohammed in Hadith 543-Vol. 4, and the angel Gabrieth has 600 wings according to Mohammed in Hadith 380-Vol. 6. Mohammed always had to have much bigger stories and alleged miracles than those contained in the Bible. Did you know that according to Mohammed Satan resides in the upper part of your nose at night, that dirty booger, so it’s best to blow him out with some water up your nose in the morning! (Get serious! Some people still believe this!) Hadith 516-Vol. 4. Did you know that even though Alexander the Great was a recorded pagan who died hundreds of years before Mohammed’s time, Mohammed claimed that he was a Muslim! And to top it off, Mohammed claimed that drinking camel urine will make you healthy! (Hadith Vol. 7:590) How many modern Muslims partake of that pearl of wisdom? The Koran, authored by Mohammed, states that Haman was Pharaoh’s minister (cf. Suras 28, 5:29, 38:40, 25:38). Both Jewish and Christian scholars agree that only an ignorant man could have made this statement. Haman was the minister in the court of Persia, not Egypt. Joseph was the minister in Pharaoh’s court. Mohammed got a number of Bible stories mixed up in their details. There were many Jews and Christians where Mohammed lived and he heard these Bible stories from them, he then somehow got his facts mixed up for these stories. Mohammed heard of the miracles of Jesus, and not to be outdone, he told his followers of miracles he had done which were greater than those of Jesus. Whatever Jesus did, he told his followers how he had done greater, greater miracles than Jesus. He told them of how he had ridden a unicorn through the air. He had many amazing, miraculous stories he told his followers. Mohammed told them how the Virgin Mary, mother of Jesus, was the sister of Aaron (Sura 19:28) and daughter of ‘Imran’ (Amram) (Sura 66:12) and hence identical with Miriam the sister of Moses and Aaron. Mohammed missed this reference by maybe 1,400 to 1,500 years in light of Bible history! Jesus and Moses did not live a few years apart from each other, but would have had to if Mohammed were correct.

MORE CONFUSION!

Mohammed also stated that the wife and one son of Noah died in the world flood. Nearly 200 ancient civilizations have this universal story of the great world flood, with this strange man who entered a big boat with a lot of animals to save them. In none of these accounts, nor the Bible account, does it report that Noah lost his wife or any of his sons. In fact, all other accounts report that everyone came out of the ark safely afterwards. When Mohammed was challenged about whether or not his accounts agreed with the Bible, he would defend himself by saying that the Bible was “corrupted”. That was easier than admitting that he was wrong and had gotten his details mixed up. The discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls has confirmed the fact that the Old Testament was reliably translated, and that there is no so-called “corruption” of the Old Testament. Also, fragments of the New Testament were found there, and another fragment found elsewhere has been reliably dated around 50 AD, as well as entire texts of the New Testament which have been found in ancient sites with other ancient copies. There is no evidence of “corruption” in the New Testament either. The Muslims repeat the charge of Mohammed against the Bible, not understanding that the Dead Sea Scrolls, and other ancient discoveries in the Middle East, confirm that the entire Bible has been reliably translated down to the present time, and that there is no “corruption” of the Bible. The truth is that Mohammed made up this false charge in order to cover for himself when he couldn’t keep his facts straight about all the different Bible stories he heard from the Jews and Christians. Mohammed claimed that Jesus never died on the cross and was never resurrected. Bishop Polycarp, venerated by all of ancient Christianity because he was the last bishop alive who had been ordained by the Apostles, knew most of the Apostles personally, and had interviewed many of the 500 witnesses who had seen Jesus Christ alive again after being crucified, dead, and buried for three days. He was martyred for the Christian faith around 160 AD. The Roman authority at Smyrna, before the whole population in the Roman stadium, offered to spare Bishop Polycarp’s life if he would deny his claims about Jesus Christ. Polycarp stated that he could not deny what he had known all his life to be true, so he was executed by the state for admitting that Jesus had resurrected from the dead and was the prophesied Son of God sent as the Savior for the whole human race, even for the Muslims and Jews who have too much personal pride to admit that Jesus might really be the Savior for mankind. He was the only religious leader ever witnessed by 500 people or more to have arisen from the dead after three days, proving He had power over death. Mohammed never resurrected from the dead, but will face God as judge someday and try to explain why he, Mohammed, rejected Jesus Christ and created a new religion dedicated to destroying with the sword all Christians and Jews, if they could get away with it. Many statements of Mohammed have been disproved by science, by archaeology, by history, by medicine, and by the reliably translated Bible. Yet the Muslims assert the reason why they know that Mohammed is the true prophet of God, whom they claim is named Allah, because he never made an error in any statement he ever made for the Muslim faith. His infallibility in all statements is what proves he was a genuine prophet. Muslims will violently oppose, even to the point of murder, anyone who begins to check out whether or not the many claims of Mohammed match the known facts.

DIFFERENT WORDS – DIFFERENT MEANINGS

The Muslims currently have a book out which claims there are 50,000 errors in the Bible. But when you talk to Muslims you begin to realize that they don’t understand the meaning of the word “sin”, as well as many other important words in the Bible. Muslims don’t have the cultural background necessary to understand many things written in the Bible. They could just as easily imagine 50 million errors as 50 thousand errors in the Bible because they don’t understand what the Bible is really saying. You may translate the Bible into their language word for word, but the meanings they attach to these words in their language are many times completely different than ours. Words like “sin” and “blood atonement” are so alien in meaning to them they might as well be spoken by visitors from another planet. They don’t understand the basic principles of Christianity, therefore they cannot understand the Bible, and with typical Middle East pride will never admit they don’t understand. In most other parts of the world, if people don’t understand something they freely enough admit it, ask questions, learn, and pretty soon they do understand what they previously did not. They are not offended in their pride to the point that they can’t seek after knowledge and truth which may help them. Yet in the Middle East, they think it is a personal attack on them to say they don’t know everything. But they have had to swallow their pride in order to study western technology about how to build nuclear bombs and missles, seeing that the West has military technology too powerful for them to fight unless they can learn how we of the scientific western world do all this.

$ FINANCING ISLAM $

Saudi Arabian oil money is pushing the Muslim faith hard in America, Africa and Europe. Their boast is that they will win many countries from within by converting them to the Muslim faith. Yet Christians in America, Africa, Europe and the Middle East are going to continue telling the truth about Islam, reprinting this report and others like it. Huge multitudes of Muslims throughout the world are going to realize that they are following a false prophet and that it’s time to get serious about finding out how to get to the real Heaven, instead of spending all eternity in Hell because they were deceived into worshipping the pagan mood-god called Allah. The Muslims think they are very clever in their attempts to take over other countries for Islam. And because of their unlimited supply of oil money, they have made many inroads into lands where the Muslim faith had never been heard of before. The sacred book of Islam, the Koran, teaches that Muslims have the right to lie, cheat, deceive and murder in order to advance the Muslim faith. Muslim oil money financed the genocide of 300,000 Ugandans under Idi Amin as he pretended conversion to Islam. More recently Muslim extremists crucified 16,000 or more people living in Sudan when they refused to convert to the Muslim faith. In every country where Muslims gain control of the government, terrible persecution becomes the rule for Christians. For example, Muslims in Egypt would love to kill the millions of coptic Christians who also live there. What is their crime? They refuse to convert to Islam so they must die. In most Muslim countries it is forbidden to witness for Christ, and many carry the death penalty for those caught trying to spread Christainity. Through this type of ruthless oppression they have succeeded in keeping millions of people bound in darkness as slaves to Islam. Let this be a warning to those countries where Muslims are currently agitating for control. History has proven that nothing but persecution, violence and bloodshed follow a Muslim takeover until all of their enemies are exterminated and they establish the “peace” of Allah’s kingdom. We believe that a religion which continues to act like something out of the Dark Ages of mankind, or like a brutal barbarian movement claiming to be the religion of the only true god, should be exposed to the whole world for its bloodthirsty attitude and wicked desire to murder everyone in the entire world who will not convert to the Muslim faith. They would love to acquire enough military technology, nuclear weapons and biological/chemical weapons to threaten the rest of the world into submission. If they can get enough powerful, modern weapons, their desire is to spread the Muslim faith by force, waging a “holy war” of extermination until all who won’t convert to Islam are wiped out.

MOHAMMED – BLACK OR WHITE?

The Muslims, in their game of subversion, assure the Blacks that their Mohammed was a black man. They are pulling a shrewd con game on the Blacks, because in Sahik Al Bukhary Vol. 1, no. 63, we read, “…who amongst you is Mohammed?” We replied, “this white man…” In Volume 2 Hadith No. 122, Mohammed is referred to as a “white person”. Mohammed referred to Blacks as slaves and even owned several himself. Bilal, Abu Hurairah, Usamah, Ebn Zaayed, and a “Ghullaam” (youth) named Rabbah, were among Mohammed’s slaves. Even in modern times, the common word of Islam in Saudi Arabia for “black” is “abd”, meaning slave. When Mohammed was alive, one Muslim gave a Black slave his freedom. Mohammed seized the boy, auctioned him as a slave and sold him for 800 derhams to Na-eem Ebn Abdullah Al-Nahham (Sahih Moslem Vol. 7, pg. 83). Mohammed referred to Blacks as “raisin heads” (Sahih Al Bukhary Vol. 1, No. 662 and Vol. 9, No. 246). He also made other crude comments about Blacks showing his utter contempt for them. Some of these quotes are really bad! For Blacks who think that the Muslim faith is their friend, I would ask them who do they think the first slave traders were? For centuries Muslim slavers rounded the Blacks up from all over Africa, killing any who resisted, and then sold them into bondage around the world.

DID YOU KNOW THAT….

Muslims may not have Christians or Jews for friends (Sura 5:54). To oppose Islam is punishable by either death, crucifixion, cutting off of the hands and feet, or exile from the land (Sura 5:36). In Muslim dominated countries there are no opposition parties allowed (Surah 4:59), and no separation between church and state (Surah 2:193). Under Islam a man may beat his wife (Surah 4:34). A Muslim who converts to Christianity must be killed (Sura 9:12). The Koran of Mohammed teaches that the Muslims should be patient and courteous with the people of the Book (Christians and Jews) when the Muslims are weak. But once they are strong, then they may act as described in Sura 2:191, which tells them to “Kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out…” Muslims are bound to follow the example of Mohammed who changed his position from one of acquiesence to one of attack as soon as he became strong enough to launch the Gihad (holy war). In light of these points, you can better understand why Muslims bomb planes and buildings, issue murder contracts before the entire world, and continue to execute hundreds of thousands of people right through 1995 who will not convert to the Muslim faith, or who are found converting Muslims to another faith. The Koran teaches the Muslims a religion of violence and hatred towards all those who are not children of “Allah”, a bloody religion which, if able, will put to the sword any who stand in its way!

It will come as a surprise to many Muslims and Non-muslims alike that the word “Allah” was not something invented by Muhammed or revealed for the first time in the Quran. The well known Middle Eastern scholar H. Gibb, pointed out that the reason that Muhammed never had to explain who “Allah” was in the Quran was that his listeners had already heard about Allah long before Muhammed was ever born.1 Dr. Arthur Jeffery, who was one of the foremost Western Islamic scholars in modern times and Professor of Islamic and Middle East Studies at Columbia Univ., pointed out that, “The name Allah, as the Quran itself is witness, was well known in Pre-Islamic Arabia. Indeed, both it and its feminine form, Allat, are found not infrequently among the theophorous names in inscriptions from North Africa.”2 The word “Allah” comes from the compound Arabic word, “al-ilah”. The “al” is the definite article “the” and the word “ilah” is an Arabic word for “god”. It is not a foreign word. It was not even the Syriac word for God. It is pure Arabic.3 Neither is “Allah” a Hebrew or Greek word for God as found in the Bible. Allah is an Arabic term used in reference to an Arabian deity. Hastings’ Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics states, “”Allah” is a proper name, applicable only to their (i.e. Arab) peculiar God.”4 According to the Encyclopedia of Religion, “”Allah” is a pre-Islamic name….corresponding to the Babylonian Bel.”5 Due to past experiences with recalcitrant students who found it hard to believe that “Allah” was a pagan name for a peculiar pagan Arabian deity in pre-Islamic times, the following citations are given. “Allah is found…in Arabic inscriptions prior to Islam.” (Encyclopedia Britannica)6 “The Arabs, before the time of Mohammed, accepted and worshipped, after a fasion, a supreme god called allah.” (The Encyplopedia of Islam, ed. Houtsma)7 “Allah was known to pre-Islamic Arabs; he was one of the Meccan deities.” (Encyclopedia of Islam, ed. Gibb)8 “The name Allah goes back before Muhammed.” (Encyclopedia of World Mythology And Legend)10 “The origin of this (Allah) goes back to pre-Muslim times. Allah is not a common name meaning “God” (or a “god”), and the Muslim must use another word or form if he wishes to indicate any other than his own peculiar deity.” (Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics)11 To the testimony of the above standard reference works, we add those of such scholars as Henry Preserved Smith of Harvard University who said, “Allah was already known by name to the Arabs.”12 Dr. Kenneth Cragg, who was the editor of the prestigious scholarly journal “Muslim World” and an outstanding modern Western Islamic scholar, whose works were generally published by Oxford University, comments, “The name Allah is also evident in archeological and literary remains of pre-Islamic Arabia.”13 Dr. W. Montgomery Watt, who was Professor of Arabic and Islamic studies at Edinburgh University and visiting Professor of Islamic studies at College de France, Georgetown University and University of Toronto, has done extensive work on the pre-Islamic concept of Allah. He concludes that, “In recent years I have become increasingly convinced that for an adequate understanding of the career of Muhammed and the origins of Islam, great importance must be attached to the existence in Mecca of belief in Allah as a “high god.”14 Caesar Farah in his book on Islam concludes his discussion of the pre-Islamic meaning of Allah by saying, “There is no reason, therefore, to accept the idea that Allah passed to the Muslims from the Christians and Jews.”15

ASTRAL RELIGIONS

According to Middle East scholar E.M. Wherry, whose translation of the Quran is still used today, in pre-Islamic times, Allah-worship, as well as Baal-worship, were both astral religions in that they involved the worship of the sun, the moon and the stars.16 In Arabia, the sun god was viewed as a female goddess and the moon as the male god. As has been pointed out by many scholars such as Alfred Guilluame, the moon god was called by various names, one of which was Allah!17 The name Allah was used as the personal name of the moon god versus other titles that could be given to him. Allah, the moon god, was married to the sun-goddess. Together they produced three goddesses who were called “the daughters of Allah.” These three goddesses were called Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat. The “daughters of Allah”, along with Allah and the sun-goddess were viewed as “high” gods. That is, they were viewed as being at the top of the pantheon of Arabian deities. Along with Allah, however, they worshipped a host of lesser gods and “daughters of Allah”. 18

THE CRESCENT MOON SYMBOL

The symbol of the worship of the moon god in Arabian culture and elsewhere throughout the Middle East was the crescent moon. Archeologists have uncovered numerous statues and hieroglyphic inscriptions in which a crescent moon was seated on top of the head of the deity to symbolize the worship of the moon god. The Quraysh tribe into which Muhammed was born was particularly devoted to Allah, the moon god and especially to Allah’s three daughters who were viewed as intercessors between them and Allah. The worship of the three goddesses, Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat played a significant role in the worship at the Kabah in Mecca. The literal Arabic name of Muhammed’s father was Abd-Allah. His uncle’s name was literally Obied-Allah. Thus the very names of his father and his uncle revealed the personal devotion that Muhammed’s pagan family had to the worship of Allah, the moon god.

PRAYING TOWARD MECCA

Before Islam came to power an Allah idol was set up at the Kabah along with all the other idols. The pre-Islamic pagans prayed toward Mecca and the Kabah because that was where their gods were stationed. It only made sense to them to face in the direction of their gods and then pray. Since the idols of their god were Mecca, they prayed toward Mecca. It is also interesting to note that the worship of the moon god was far more widespread than just the Allah worship in Arabia. The entire fertile crescent was involved in the worship of the moon. This, in part, explains the early success of Islam among Arab groups that had traditionally worshipped the moon god. The use of the crescent moon as the symbol for Islam which is often placed on the top of mosques and minarets is no doubt a throwback to the days when Allah was worshipped as the moon god at the Kabah in Mecca. It is not just a symbol of the feast of Ramadan. While this may come as a surprise to many Christians who have wrongly assumed that Allah was simply another name for the God of the Bible, many educated Muslims generally understand this point.

CONCLUSION

In the field of comparative religions, it is understood that each of the major religions of mankind has its own peculiar concept of deity. In other words, all religions DO NOT worship the same God, just under different names. The sloppy thinking that would allow this type of uninformed assumption would ignore the essential differences which divide world religions and is an insult to the uniqueness of world religions. Which of the world religions holds to the Christian concept of one eternal God in three persons? When the Hindu denies the personality of God, how many religions will agree with them? Obviously, all men DO NOT worship the same God, just under different names. The Quran’s concept of deity evolved out of a pre-Islamic pagan religion. It is so uniquely Arabian that it cannot be simply attributed to Jewish or Christian beliefs. Islam, as we know it today, is rooted in the pagan cult of the moon god.
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Some Christians still insist that GOD Almighty’s original Holy Name was Yahweh. They rely on Exodus 3:15 to prove this nonsense. I clearly proved in the section above that “Yahweh” in Exodus 3:15 was only a title and not a name, and it means “The LORD”, “The GOD” and the “The Eternal” (according to the New Dictionary of the Bible).

Now, let’s assume for a second that “Yahweh” is a name, which is really ridiculous since its English translation starts with “the”. This still doesn’t prove that GOD Almighty’s original name is Yahweh! Exodus 3:15 that Christians are so big on using was revealed to Prophet Moses peace be upon him. How many years are there between Adam and Moses peace be upon them? Probably thousands! If not even millions!

So according to the Christians’ logic, GOD Almighty was Nameless from the time of Adam until the time of Moses where He, the Almighty, supposedly had finally found Himself and His identity. Correct? Wrong! That’s all a bunch of nonsense!

GOD Almighty’s original Holy Name is clearly “Allah” or “Elaw”! Like I said above, when Jesus peace be upon him was put on the cross, he cried to GOD Almighty and said “Eloi”, which is derived from “Elaw” or “Allah”. He didn’t say “Yahwahoi”!

Therefore, any Christian who decides to act stubborn and reject the crystal clear fact that GOD Almighty’s original Holy Name was indeed “Allah”, because of fearing that it would prove Islam to be the faith of Truth, is guilty of sinning against GOD Almighty!

to Jamil,
you are troll who thinks you know something but you don’t. You’re using Jehovah Witness material to try to convince Christians you know more than us? Allah is derived from the pagan moon god and the devil himself. If for no other proof than to look at the fruit of Islam, you can see hell brought on earth by the life of Mo and his unholy book Quran.
As for the LORD God Almighty the creator of heaven and earth, his original name was unprounceable because it sounds like an exhalation of human breath. the letters Y H W H if tried to be pronounced by a human is his Holy name. they added some vowels to make it more pronounceable. It is called a tetragramaton and is used 6,823 times in the Tanakh. Some of His other names are Elohim, El, Eloah, Elah, Adonai and many others. Your feeble attempts to deceive true followers is just that. But that is the nature of the devil. Please open your heart to the possibility that Jesus Christ Messiah is the one True Son of God and died for your sins and wants to know you personally. You don’t have to keep serving allah the deceiver.

Islam considers Jesus as one of God’s great prophets. His mission was to preach the Oneness of God and to lead man to his Lord. He never claimed to be other than a servant and a Messenger of God. The Qur’anic account of his life and mission is supported by overwhelming evidence. The Muslims do believe in and are awaiting the Second Coming of Jesus. He will come back not as God to judge the non-Christians, but as Jesus, God’s servant. His coming is to correct the misconception which people have developed about his personality and his mission. According to a saying of the Prophet Muhammad, he will stay for forty years which is going to be the happiest years of life on this earth. At that time everybody will believe in him as the messenger, not the Son of God. However, what about those who will not be able to live till his second coming? They better do it now!

Nobody believes the lies of your satanic lord Mahound. He made everything up. Wake up and look around you. If pislam is so great then why are all pislamic countries such shitholes?

eib

September 17, 2010 at 10:55 am

It doesn’t matter how Islam considers Jesus.
In the eyes of Christians, your religion is profane– a worldly cult revealed by a false prophet.

Sami

September 18, 2010 at 8:22 am

Alleluia, now the news shows thousands of christians(not muslims) in the streets of London protesting the visit of the Pope to England and protesting against the case of the sexual abuse of their children by the priests, threating to burn some copies of the Bible !!! Gary.asshole the Jester of the Bloge son of sharmuta ,read this and burn from inside until you die then hell is waiting for you full of sharmutas!!!!

admin

September 18, 2010 at 11:18 am

But you accept the fact that Islam allows pedophilia. You do not have the courage to eve begin to question Islam.

What arrogance.
God’s name is irrelevant.
Your religion is profane in the understanding of Christians. It always will be.
Just as Christianity is profane to you.
Accept that.
All religions/cultures are not alike.
I do not worship at the shrine of multiculturalism.
Your words are truly wasted at this website.

So if you claim the jewish and the pislamic faith has the same roots, how come you arselifters are so obsessed with exterminating them? You claim the judgment day cannot happen before all jews are dead but if it where true what you say and not only the usual trivial taqyyia, then you should love the jews as brethren.

What race is Islam?
Excellent.
Islam is not a race.
It is a religion from a region in which there is no separation of religion from the functions of the state.
That is what Islam is, and within that definition is capsulated all its threat.
If a person standing on the street is incapable of understanding that statement and all its implications, he should not even be a citizen of a free country.

How do I go about speaking with you in person? I live in xxxxxxxxxxx and am watching my neighborhood become overrun by Islam/muslims. I want to become active in making the public more aware of the truth about Islam. I feel so powerless right now, and am deeply saddened by what I see in my neighborhood. Can you help me? Can I help you? Please contact me @ my e mail addresss.