Also, which version did you hear of the second album? I initially heard the CN dubbed version, listened several times and dismissed it as somewhat of a let down. After hearing the Dismal Cursings version I can assure that it is a very worthy follow up to the debut.

I have no idea if there's even a rip floating around online of the DC version. I know the initial rip that I did, which is probably the most distributed digital version, was sourced from the CN dub.

Itīs a good album. Thatīs it for me. The last one didnt even click at all.
I have the tape for trade/sale of "Without..."
I really dońt get the big words thrown here for what is just a good album IMO.
Is it an American thing mostly?
We've had so much better... For instance, concerning the new USBM scene, Odz Manouk is soooo much better.
Maybe they rip live I dunno, but nothing mesmerizing/masterful/outstanding here

Just opinion of course.

ODZ MANOUK is amazing as well, but not psychedelic like ARIZMENDA. I think it is not only a great album, but one that actually fascinates me to listen to, if that makes sense.

I have the one with color glossy cover I think with the masked dude in reddish tones
I know that CN original pressings, a lil bit like RH 1st presses are usually shite so I must have bought the DC version. And even then it wasnt my cup of tea at all, less good than the 1st album which was ok.

@Descension: I respect your feeling man, i know you tend to be super dithyrambic in your "appreciation" threads
I havent listened to Arizmenda "Within vacuum..." In more than 2 years so I'll ditch out the tape from one of the boxes in my car and give it another fresh listen!_________________DISJECTA MEMBRAE plays Torture Doom
FUNERALIUM plays Extreme Doom
ABJVRATION plays Death Doom

I agree with Descension for the most part. Nice to hear that I'm not the only one to hold that tape in high regards. "Within..." is an atmospheric BEAST of an album. I'd say it's flawless. Though, I wouldn't say it's one of the best BM albums ever - it has yet to stand the test of time.

Unfortunately, I own the CN version of the second album and have a hard time getting into it because of the sound.

Does anyone own both versions of the second album and can safely confirm that the sound differs seriously?

i had the first and second presses of "without". 2nd sounded a little better but honestly the magic shines thru the shitty dubbing._________________[quote="Endless Morbidity"]fuck "deluxe" bullshit. Albums don't need extra trinkets and shit. These are METAL records, not cracker jacks.[/quote]

[quote="holy ghost"]
So basically... who gives a cats whiskers?[/quote]

i had the first and second presses of "without". 2nd sounded a little better but honestly the magic shines thru the shitty dubbing.

I had the same thought about Dolorvotre ("Without" is barely listenable imo..). I downloaded some files of the reworked CD to check how it sounds and I really prefer the tape. I'll soon get a copy of the vinyl though, I guess it will sound way better on LP._________________Sic transit gloria mundi

Pro-tapes of second Arizmenda and Dolorvotre are still available directly from me as well for the time being.
Still much looking forward to seeing "Within the Vacuum of Infinity..." materialized on vinyl._________________Dismal Cursings

I love the way it sounds, raw as it should. The rest of their dubbed tapes do sound shitty though, except for the first Arizmenda, and Kallathon too, maybe.

heh, you're right actually. when listening to the cd, you can actually notice that the production on the dolorvotre album is pretty clean compared to most of the other cn stuff._________________[quote="Endless Morbidity"]fuck "deluxe" bullshit. Albums don't need extra trinkets and shit. These are METAL records, not cracker jacks.[/quote]

[quote="holy ghost"]
So basically... who gives a cats whiskers?[/quote]