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That was a great way to kick start the show. Lots of flashy scenes and great pacing. The mecha itself felt great as well and the world seems quite interesting. I was particularly interested in that conversation between the computer and Ledo at the start and how it conveys something rather important about the great empire. It looks like soldiers (at least) only get recognized as citizens after a minimum amount of time spent in service. That's a rather interesting tidbit that I hope will serve as a basis for comparison with this waterworld Ledo finds himself in.

On the other hand I wouldn't mind seeing what Gen would do with that concept of earned citizenship since that seems to lend itself to the type of stories he's known for (the ones that nicknamed him butcher )

That was a great way to kick start the show. Lots of flashy scenes and great pacing. The mecha itself felt great as well and the world seems quite interesting. I was particularly interested in that conversation between the computer and Ledo at the start and how it conveys something rather important about the great empire. It looks like soldiers (at least) only get recognized as citizens after a minimum amount of time spent in service. That's a rather interesting tidbit that I hope will serve as a basis for comparison with this waterworld Ledo finds himself in.

On the other hand I wouldn't mind seeing what Gen would do with that concept of earned citizenship since that seems to lend itself to the type of stories he's known for (the ones that nicknamed him butcher )

Yeah, I got that too. Although it feels more like the goal of citizenship is just a carrot that no soldiers will actually get (they'll probably die in battle before then).

Anyways, I got a huge Ender's Game vibe from the first half. The whole battle felt like Ender's fleet fighting the buggers, especially the Little Doctor like device they were using.

So he time travelled back to Earth before humanity set out for the stars? Colour me disappointed, since I loved the epic space battle in the beginning, and I doubt we'll ever get back to it. Now we're onto land and sea battles, which doesn't tickle my fancy as much as space battles do.

So he time travelled back to Earth before humanity set out for the stars? Colour me disappointed, since I loved the epic space battle in the beginning, and I doubt we'll ever get back to it. Now we're onto land and sea battles, which doesn't tickle my fancy as much as space battles do.

I don't think he travelled back in time. This should be still in the same time period as the first half. Remember that Earth is 'lost' to the Galactic Alliance humans.

I'm really glad there's finally a show which lives up to expectations, and then some. I suppose it's pretty much redundant now to talk about how great everything is about this first episode.

I hope Gen and co can keep up with this so that by the end of it I'll have one more series to add to my all time favourites!

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On the other hand I wouldn't mind seeing what Gen would do with that concept of earned citizenship since that seems to lend itself to the type of stories he's known for (the ones that nicknamed him butcher )

Well this is not a new concept to begin with. The most obvious example being Starship Troopers - "service guarantees citizenship".

But yeah I'd love to see more about life (or the lack thereof?) in the Alliance. Maybe there'll be flashbacks in future eps about Red's life growing up as a soldier.

BTW does it look like the soldiers in the Alliance are clones or at least artifically grown, judging by the same hair colour? Maybe to do with coping with heavy losses fighting the war? That could explain the "right to reproduce"...

That was even better than I expected. Wonderful animation, gorgeous scenery and battles, and bright color palette. The soundtrack isn't bad either.

Both settings (futuristic space colony Avalon and what I assume is a post apocalyptic Earth) were very interesting. I'm dying to find out more about the universe of Gargantia. I'm curious to see how they will tie everything in exactly. The previews made it seem like this would be a rather light-hearted show compared to Urobuchi's usual works, but the prologue indicates otherwise. We will definitely hear of those mysterious aliens again, and I wouldn't be surprised if they took the fight all the way to Earth. This could get dark pretty fast.

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Yeah, I got that too. Although it feels more like the goal of citizenship is just a carrot that no soldiers will actually get (they'll probably die in battle before then).

It takes over 16 years (145,000 hours) to get the persmission to apply for limited citizenship rights... so yeah, I don't think these soldiers have any future. The numbers seemed iffy to me since Ledo seems very young. I assume that means he's been fighting ever since he was a kid. Genetic manipulations are probably involved, too. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the soldiers were clones. It would explain why they don't have rights.

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So he time travelled back to Earth before humanity set out for the stars? Colour me disappointed, since I loved the epic space battle in the beginning, and I doubt we'll ever get back to it. Now we're onto land and sea battles, which doesn't tickle my fancy as much as space battles do.

There's no way they would create such a setting only to discard it completely ten minutes later. Ledo didn't time travel. Earth's level of technology is low because it's in decline.

Definitely a very interesting start to the series. I hope that things will continue to develop well. I'm not sure yet if the story will be about the fights with the aliens or living on an underdeveloped earth. One of the better first episodes this season.

It takes over 16 years (145,000 hours) to get the persmission to apply for limited citizenship rights... so yeah, I don't think these soldiers have any future. The numbers seemed iffy to me since Ledo seems very young. I assume that means he's been fighting ever since he was a kid. Genetic manipulations are probably involved, too. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the soldiers were clones. It would explain why they don't have rights.

Some people are speculating that all the soldiers are basically enhanced humans produced for the sole purpose of fighting. Ledo says he's never even seen Avalon so he's probably spent his entire life in space training to be a soldier. There's also that whole brainwashing thing at the beginning so they're probably all disposable.

Nice start to the series. It looks like they blew their money shot this episode, and boy did they with that space battle. Now, I look forward to a fish out of water scenario and go from there. I was going "NOOOOOOOOO!!" at the end of the episode, and am ready for the next one.

Some people are speculating that all the soldiers are basically enhanced humans produced for the sole purpose of fighting. Ledo says he's never even seen Avalon so he's probably spent his entire life in space training to be a soldier. There's also that whole brainwashing thing at the beginning so they're probably all disposable.

Knowing zippo about this new series until I watched it, I admit I was a little bored by the first half of the show, not being a great fan of mecha battles. However, as soon as the second half started, my interest certainly perked up. Amy in her very bright costume running through the corridors of what looked to be an old an dilapidated ship started to make things look much more interesting for me. The show suddenly switched from a mecha battle anime to, well, what???

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Now, I look forward to a fish out of water scenario and go from there.

Yes, this seems to be where it's headed, or, at least, what will be a major part of the development.

My only disappointment was that, with all that obsolete fire power aimed at him, the MC didn't get blown from here to kingdom come. I wonder what his buddy would have done without him.

HAH first show of the season that genuinely gets my interest up and I find out Gen wrote it...Why am I not surprised? Here's to hoping they can do more with the setting then Psycho did. Like others said I wanna hear more about society on that world ship/colony he comes from.

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No matter what enemy. No matter what ally. Mowing everything down with maximum destructive power.

Guess we see how overpowered our pale friend and his system is at least against pirates. Also liked the ice breaking gesture by Amy with the fish. Ah, but I'll have to wait for subs for the other stuff.