I watched this game just as a guy watching a game. Trite as it is to say, Ohio State came to play and Michigan looked bewildered most of the game. Do not understand Michigan's play calling. If you call the same play enough times maybe it will work?

"No, no!" said the Queen. "Sentence first–verdict afterward.""Stuff and nonsense!" said Alice "The idea of having the sentence first!""Hold your tongue!" said the Queen, turning purple."I won't!" said Alice."Off with her head!" the Queen shouted at the top of her voice."

Insanity- doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Urban Meyer can flat out coach. Harbaugh can coach, just not against Ohio State. Win/loss records don't matter, predictions don't matter, history doesn't matter. It is that day, that one day. Michigan wasn't ready. Ohio State was.

Boise State did all they could to let Utah State back. A scrappy game until the end, BSU wins.

My expectations for the Ohio State - Michigan game were so low, I so believed Spence. Michigan was not motivated or something. Ohio State did so very little wrong. Game of the week for dour coaches.

"No, no!" said the Queen. "Sentence first–verdict afterward.""Stuff and nonsense!" said Alice "The idea of having the sentence first!""Hold your tongue!" said the Queen, turning purple."I won't!" said Alice."Off with her head!" the Queen shouted at the top of her voice."

Donovan, I think that Boise State has what I consider to be an elite program. The last 20 years or so they have replaced several coaches and the program moves forward. They may not have their choice of “5 star” guys, but they recruit good players and they always have a quality team. In some ways they are more “elite” than the guys who get the five star guys because they have to evaluate talent a lot better and do it with less money. I have been very impressed by how that program has operated since I started coming to this board many years ago. There aren’t many programs who have been good for as long as Boise State has been.

Spence wrote:Donovan, I think that Boise State has what I consider to be an elite program. The last 20 years or so they have replaced several coaches and the program moves forward. They may not have their choice of “5 star” guys, but they recruit good players and they always have a quality team. In some ways, they are more “elite” than the guys who get the five-star guys because they have to evaluate talent a lot better and do it with less money. I have been very impressed by how that program has operated since I started coming to this board many years ago. There aren’t many programs who have been good for as long as Boise State has been.

Kind words, I thank you. Many years ago Pokey Allen was the coach at Boise State. He had been at Portland State following Mouse Davis who developed and refined the "run and shoot" offense. Allen developed cancer and his recruiting was limited. Al Borges, then offensive coordinator, came to our home and recruited one of our sons. This was circa 1995. He played for Boise for 5 years. Allen died, during our son's redshirt year, from cancer and Houston Nutt took over. It was with Allen's leadership the foundation for Boise's program took hold. Harsin, the current coach played with our son and they still keep in contact..texting, whatever it is people do nowadays. Over the past 25 years have spent significant time in Boise, not so much anymore, times change and we all move on.

"No, no!" said the Queen. "Sentence first–verdict afterward.""Stuff and nonsense!" said Alice "The idea of having the sentence first!""Hold your tongue!" said the Queen, turning purple."I won't!" said Alice."Off with her head!" the Queen shouted at the top of her voice."

The level they remain at in that program is impressive. They get players year after year and they win most of their games. That doesn’t happen at most places. It is probably real cool for your son to see his school lead by someone he played with, someone who knows the traditions. That is what they do at Ohio State. Every coach who has coached at Ohio State except one- John Cooper- was a coach in Woody Hayes’ tree. They all knew the foundation. They all know the expectations and traditions. That is what makes programs. —-Well, that and money.