Yes, I think I agree with that. I think you 1probably not trouble with them or, at any rate, take them 2very shortly if you want to. 3MR IRVING: Yes. Has your Lordship in your Lordship's memory 4which particular matters those are that are no longer 5relied on? Sikorsky is one, I believe? 6MR JUSTICE GRAY: Sikorsky is certainly one. Hitler's 7adjutants, I think, has rather come back in again. 8I mean, I think it is probably not sensible for me to try 9to identify them now because I do not really have them in 10mind, but if the Defendants let you know whether there are 11parts in your report that are no longer relied on, that 12might simplify things all round. 13MR IRVING: What about Moscow? Is there anything about Moscow 14in this report? 15MR JUSTICE GRAY: I do not think there is. 16MR RAMPTON: Not about Moscow. I have done that anyway. 17Moscow is certainly a live issue. There is nothing about 18Moscow in this report, as far as I know. 19MR IRVING: My Lord, are you going to permit a further 20cross-examination of me? 21MR JUSTICE GRAY: I think we have always contemplated there 22would be a further cross-examination, but it is not 23open-ended. It is dealing with left over topics. 24MR RAMPTON: Can I tell your Lordship what I have left? I have 25got the Fleming book which has a reference to the Muller 26message to the Einsatzgruppen on 1st August 1941. I have

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1got Kinner Zamos report of 16th December 1942. I have got 2Anne Frank. I have got the criminal statistics which is 3dealt with towards the end of Professor Evans' report, 4pages 692 to 8, and I have got a couple of other things 5which I am just having checked at the moment. If 6necessary, I will give notice and, of course, I have the 7political associations as well. 8MR JUSTICE GRAY: Yes. That is very helpful, but if you are 9able to tell, or Miss Rogers or somebody is able to tell, 10Mr Irving that there are parts of Professor Evans' report 11which are no longer really relied on and, therefore, he 12need not trouble with them? 13MR RAMPTON: I think it means we can regard the Adjutants and 14the Roman Jews as out of the ring. 15MR JUSTICE GRAY: There may be other bits? 16MR RAMPTON: Little bits, but those are the two main subjects, 17yes. 18MR JUSTICE GRAY: Does that help, Mr Irving, a bit? 19MR RAMPTON: Though I cannot guarantee it will not ---- 20MR IRVING: If I had known we could have torn up the first 120 21pages of his report, it would have saved a lot of time. 22MR JUSTICE GRAY: I am not sure that I would put it quite like 23that. 24(The court adjourned until the following day)2526