Some trinkets have "equip" bonus that look like "on use" ones, odd. Agree with your point of view about rogues, Colkil. I have a lvl 58 rogue alt, and sometimes I just have to wait there waiting for the energy to go up, while with my main, hunter, I can use focused shot. Well, maybe it's my fault not knowing how to play a rogue, but still...

After all these years, my main is still a rogue, but i play it rarely, becuase:1) It doesnt do the damage in PvE (raiding HCs mostly);2) It doesnt do the damage in PvP (BGs)So whats the point of it anyways - smoke bomb and thats it?

Yep. We have nice niches (in arena we can do extremely good), but the feeeling is that we are overall mediocre. Anyone posting "but i get constantly killed by rogues" should ask himself hif he's really good at his class. Anyone posting "but i rape recount" should ask himself if the others are really good at their class. Anything is possible ofc, but everyone should consider the context. Rogues really need a good overhaul. I love the class, but they could be a lot better.

Some trinkets have "equip" bonus that look like "on use" ones, odd. Agree with your point of view about rogues, Colkil. I have a lvl 58 rogue alt, and sometimes I just have to wait there waiting for the energy to go up, while with my main, hunter, I can use focused shot. Well, maybe it's my fault not knowing how to play a rogue, but still...

We made some changes (i.e. stealth movement speed) to try and make some of the rogue mechanics more fun and this is the kind of thing we'll continue to keep an eye on.

I agree with everything you said except with this. I'm sorry but stealth is the most op mechanic in entire pvp (maybe even in pve but mobs never complain) and it really didn't need any buffs. Resetting fights with vanish is like god mode or like instant townportal in diablo2. The stealth mechanic is way too good because it doesn't have a duration, it doesn't require timing nor anything, the BG or whatever starts, you go into stealth and are untargetable until you attack. And spamming aoes to get someone out of stealth only works rarely.

Played my rogue to level 85. Started to become no fun at about level 81, I think alot of the pve had to do with the time it took to kill a mob compared to say other classes that could round up alot of mobs and kill them all at once. As a rogue you'd take ages to kill a mob and then be on relatively low health after you killed it. And going in and out of stealth while on kill 10 of X quests was also lame. Finally when you hit 85 and do some pvp you see how fail undergeared rogues are, especially vs. plate wearers. Not worth it. Rolled a fury war and had a much more fun expierence all the way to 85 and beyond.That's all I've got to say about that.