Ok, so have seen some mixed reviews on these, but after owning some AKs, I like the piston vs DI gas. With that said, I have also liked the AK round in forms of affordability, ballistics, penetration etc, but understand a bit more recoil and possibly less accuracy.

So if you were going to spend 1,000 on either, for a rifle that could be catergorized as a SHTF weap or back up weap, what would it be? I like the built in optics rail with piston...so these seem best of both worlds. Understand neither have chrome lining but they claim another process that is just as good if not superior to corrosion protection.

I have an Aresenal SGL21 and a WASR 10/63 and a few different ARS.

So id like to hear arguments for the 7.62 or the 5.56 and why....thanks

What do you anticipate YOUR SHTF scenario would be? Protecting your dwelling from zombies/looters?

Protecting dwelling/property from Zulu/Lima's?

5.56 is going to allow you to protect the confides of the house and your homes immediate "perimeter", I would think. For CQB, the 5.56 will work, if you can't reach the shot gun.

If you foresee providing over watch from the roof, while wife gets the laundry off the line, then by all means, go with .308.

Everybody needs a 5.56 for the Apocalypse.

I have a 5.56 that will be only use if the Penut Butter dosn't work on gobing up the mouths of the Zombies during an attac to where they are not able to eat my brains. Gota save ammo for those SHTF folks who are going to be wondering around with to much gear and not enough water or ammo. U will notice them, They will be thirsty and all there gear will still have the tags on it.

5.56 they only way to go. You can use dead peoples ammo as more SHTF folks have 5.56's than .308.

Gota save ammo for those SHTF folks who are going to be wondering around with to much gear and not enough water or ammo. U will notice them, They will be thirsty and all there gear will still have the tags on it.

Hahaha....yeah, but by golly those wandering dudes will have AR's that have BUIS "cowitness" with their wiz bang optics though. Bet your boots on that, Podnah.

I don't think an American is literally a traitor but i guess it just bugs me, when just about any enemy the US has ever fought since Korea has used the AK to kill our guys. I watched on our low level flights into some very rough areas of Iraq/Afghanistan as towel heads fired their dinky AK's. Our 130's were hit more than once. And as a loadmaster all you can do is call out fire and directions to the pilot lol. It's not like you can stick a rifle out the troop door and fire back.

I personally would never own one, but i won't hold it against anyone who's on my side if/when the time comes to fight here.

Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum

"And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts. And I looked, and behold a pale horse, and his name that sat on him was Death, and hell followed with him."

How any American can buy the AK or anything close to it, is a damn traitor in my book.

I don't care if it's even built here in the US, it's just plain wrong. That gun was designed to kill Americans.

by this logic Americans should also not buy Japanese cars, because they bombed Pearl Harbor... or anything made in Germany, because the Nazzi's killed thousands of Americans and millions of others.

the AK, like the AR, like the Uzi, like the Colt Peacemaker is just a tool. Just because this tool was made by our one-time enemy, doesn't mean you can't use it. If some NATO country had folded and there had been millions of M-16's laying around, waiting to be sold to every third world "freedom fighter" would we then be traitors for using them as well?

If you read my follow up post (last one on page 1) you'd see i don't literally think you're a traitor or anyone else who has an AK for that matter. I simply will not own one. Personal preference as i think they're only prop is durability and i've never, not once had a failure to fire, or eject etc with any AR or American made weapon.

And like i've said on my last post as well, when you've seen people trying to kill you with them it makes a decision not to own them a little bit easier.

Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum

"And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts. And I looked, and behold a pale horse, and his name that sat on him was Death, and hell followed with him."

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