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Topic: EP 5 Clues/ Spoilers & Specualtion (Read 8881 times)

Riverrat

Yep, that looks like Chris and his hair. I'm glad we are doing this for fun. I wouldn't want to stake my life on who is on what tribe. I know there is a key to how they do the picks but we won't even know if we hit on the right one until Thursday.

My gut tells me the earthquake is pretty much a decoy to disguise the pictures if possible. I think the earth quake happened while each tibe was in their own camp before the visitors came calling. That was how it looked on the previews from last week.

So we know about 3/4 of each team maybe? :\/If we assume *8 the earth quake happens in the beginning of the show, we know who gets booted ?? soooooo what we don't know is, which challenge this is. I'm thinking Yasur loses IC so who is most likely to bond at the falls after winning RC? Sarge and Twila?

Ha, all I feel halfway sure about is, Twila is with Lopevi, Rory is with Yasur and MB is the one and only chief. 88))

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I may be seeing shadows. The first guy/gal diving looks like they have a shirt on. Either that or a shadow on the left arm. The second looks bare chested. The third either a shirt scrunched up or a sack on their back. I can't tell but the first looks kind of like Bubba with the mask strap trailing behind. His hair looks red and curly.

Earthquake happens, Wezzie says it happened at 805 am We see Eliza , Julie, Lisa in the background.I'm guessing the Quake is before the boatdudes arrive per statement Rory: What the hell is going on today?

Travis in a confessional when the Quake happens

Boat dude arrives , gives Lea his TamTam, Necklace , whatever, "One Chief"Boat dude tells Yasur that there will be only " one Chief"Note Julie & Elizas buffs are worn the same way as in the first Quake vidcap above.

Tribes arrive at RC , Jeff " alright everyone drop your buffs"

Camara zooms in on Twila & TravisNote the flower in Twilas hair , could be something , maybe not ?Bubba/ Travis reaction , note no Buff

Diving challenge, note that Jeffs shirt and background are 100 % the same as when he announces Drop your buffs

The only 3 we see for sure on Lopevi are Twila,Lea,Chris in the water Note the numbered Disks behind Twila & Sarge , probably what they are diving for

On Yasurs , raft whatever, we see in this vidcap , Ami , Eliza, Lisa , LeeannIn this shot I count 5 people , 4 girls ( Lisa stands out , not sure who else becuase of the blurred picture)1 guy ( Rory), with Jeff off to the right ( I'm thinking someone is sitting out ? One of the missing Scout/Bubba/ Chad with one in the water , Scout ,Bubba ,Chad )

First of all, I haven't read all the prior messages due to time constraints. So if I'm repeating, forgive me. I think this will be a repeat of the Episode 9 in All Stars when Amber remained a Chapera while everyone else changed tribes. So in essence, she was the only one who changed tribes.

Now to "The Clue", where there may be some ideas. I need some help bouncing these ideas around. This "Drop your buffs" is not the merge because clue 10 states: The Octant Combination: Twila before Mia, but Lea after Brook. Hammer, nails and wood in the depth of July but before the flow of the orange. -I interpret this to mean that Twila and Lea are gone before the merge.

Clue 2 states: The volcano tribes of red and yellow lava flow through two different paths, never to mingle until the Tam Tam becomes a circle. Only then will the glow of orange be noticed when the branch breaks and the judges increase. - OK, a Tam Tam is a wooden drum made out of wood, sort of in the shape of a man. But then, the Tam Tam was in the game played last episode and the women matched it. BUT, this says the red and yellow will not become orange until the Tam Tam becomes a circle. Does this mean that part of the "Tam Tam" must come from a switching of tribal members?

The Aziel 25 Bootlist says that Twila is yellow, Scout, Travis, and Eliza are red. That tells us that in this switch, at least Scout and Eliza will become Lopevi.

In Clue 12: The six Tam Tam, split in the middle. Maybe with this switch, there will be three in red and three in yellow. The three red seem to be Scout, Travis, and Eliza. The yellow are maybe Twila, Ami, Leann and Julie. Before the merge, Twila is booted, which leaves the three: Ami, Leann, and Julie. So the six Tam Tam would be Scout, Travis, Eliza, Ami, Leann, and Julie.

But wait, another part of Clue 12 states: The lame shall go far, but not past the Three. The others, all blind and banish, he walks alone on the right path as fourth. - OK, this seems to say that Chad is in the final four and is voted out fourth from last. We also know from the Three Monkeys that there are two females and one male. That seems to say that Travis is in the final Three. But does the fact that Chad makes it to the final four mean he's part of the Tam Tam? It says "the others, all blind and banished," does this mean that no one saw that Chad was part of the alliance until that moment? So then, I want to change my six Tam Tam to Scout, Travis, Eliza, Ami, Chad, and either Leann or Julie. Since Chad is in the final four and possibly a secret member of the alliance, maybe he is switched in Ep. 5 to the Yasur tribe.

My only question is ~ I assume that the scuba divers woudl be good at this, BUT they can go down far with and oxygen tank and they are breathign . . . .will they be as good when they have to hold their breath?

With just a cursory look, I'd place my bet with Lopevi on the water challenge. But then I looked more closely at the teams as I think they will be after the "shake-up" and I think Yasur will win the Reward challenge. However, with Lisa being voted out, it's a given that Lopevi wins Immunity. As far as I'm concerned, Immunity is the game to win.

Heading over to MessHall now..Texan , I'm not a swimmer so I really don't know the difference between Scuba diving & Deep sea diving, I'm pretty much just trying to figure out the stronger Tribe . Everyone is counting Scout out ( sitting out) this challenge ..with her experience as a swimmer I could see her helping to win this challenge . ****If anyone sits this out it had better be Bubba , because as a non-swimmer ..I would **0

eta..a new Vicap. Ami also has a red feather flower in her hair/ear. Could be something or maybe just female bonding (#) I'm going to check out the Mele Cascades to see if I could find any red flowers /feathery thingeys...could it be that the BoatDude gave them to the ladies :\/ ?

OK these look like the same flowers , Just wondering if the flowers in their hair,ear are all over the Islands or just at Mele Cascades because I'm trying to figure out if those pictures of Twila & Ami are before IC or if the flowers were a part of the RC 8-)' This would totally upset my speculaton * I'll be back ........

The red flower could be a sort of hibiscus. The whitish yellow flower in the middle of the bouquet is a plumeria or frangipani (depending on what you want to call it, we call it both names down here). The little white budlike objects in the bouquet are gardenias. I remember those from being in Tahiti. They put them on your pillow at night instead of a chocolate. They smell so good. Not so sicky sweet like the ones you have in the US. The long red bloom looks like a ginger flower.

An elderly chief dressed in ceremonial costume entered the clearing. He was wearing a decorative woven belt which held in place his banana-leaf penis sheath. A few green leaves and a bright-red ginger flower tucked in the belt completed his outfit. His face was marked with red color and he wore a necklass with two nearly-circular boars' tusks and carried a long stick with an ornately carved top

If and only if this is how the tribees end up after the swap , lets try to figure out Why Lisa is the next boot. Lets assume for now that the newley swapped contestants have immunity .Now Texan and I were talking earlier about the final 2, lets say that its Eliza & Rory ..being as the spoiler boards have picked these two as the final two ..Eliza = Brian H (amazon) Rory = Clay (amazon) ,whatever .(pure speculation)we know that these four go premerge as per Snewsers list LisaJKBubbaJulie

Rumored final 4 ( again pure speculation)ChadScoutRoryEliza

This leaves TwilaLeaLeeannChristo be booted after the merge ( no particular order )

Say we have New YasurElizaLeeAnnAmiLisa ChadRoryBubba

New LopeviJulie LeaScoutTwilaJKChris

Could it be that Eliza makes a bond with Chad/Rory /possably Bubba ? and gets the boys to boot Lisa Ep5?I cant see Ami/LeeAnn wanting to keep Eliza around at this point, with Julie in Lopevi ..Eliza would be theie next "young'un" in line for the boot?boot vote predictions Elza votes ~ Lisa ( who pissed her off last week by changing her Twila vote to Mia)Rory votes ~ LisaChad votes ~ LisaBubba votes ~ LisaAmi votes ~ ElizaLeeAnn votes ~ Eliza

We still have the RC winning tribe up for speculation..any thoughts?A trip for one tribe leads to bonding and makes one castaway very happy. My hinkies are telling me this is Rory ..

the other riddle~One castaway is caught by a tribemate while attempting to communicate secretly with a member of the opposing tribe.

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Riverrat

Well my list of tribes doesn't read exactly like that. Anywho, I think Rory and anyone else that may be switched is probably immune this week but, if not they are happy to go along with the others just to save their skins. Lisa may have been the one caught trying to contact the opposing tribe member to. To some people Lisa voting against Mia was way worse than Eliza voting against Dolly. I guess they go after what they may think is the lesser of two evils.

I posted this over in "The Clue", but I'm not sure if anyone other than Puddin and I are bothering with all of that mess. Anyway, I thought this bit was important. Not maybe for Ep 5, but for the game in general. If you go to the message from ChansonMirthProse and figure it out, you will see that the solution is: Merry Christmas. Who has a birthday on December 25th? Eliza.

What I see , the mystery person(who I now think is Eliza) sitting on the dock to the left....behind that person ..I see Bubba ,I swear )() either that or my mind is fried ..watch the arms , now watch behind mystery persons head..another head..a Bubba head...that puts 6 on the dock..could be that the next person(Eliza?) is getting ready to dive? :)ZZZ:) nite nite....