Shane Morris is really clever. Think about the sublety of the joke the way he told it; he leaves unsaid that offering a schollie to a longsnapper is the punchline. I like it. (I realize we offered George Morales/he got a schollie here).

Or...to Shane, the punchline is Dantonio contradicting himself, sort of, in the quote Shane uses. Hmm....which is it? We may never know.

I'm not sure what your point is? Obviously wins>recruiting. I'd much prefer a win. And I'm not denying that MSU has beat us the past 4 years. But at the same time, they have 4 threads on the front page of RCMB dealing with Shane Morris. Both of those are facts. I never said anything to the contrary of what you said, take a chill pill.

Practice makes perfect. Unless you're the Buckeyes. Then you have to cheat.

First off, all I said was "You mad Sparty?" If you consider that talking shit, you need to get some thicker skin.

Second off, once again, I'm not denying that we've lost 4 straight. Once again, they have us where it matter right now. But this is a rivalry. Fans will always "talk shit", to take your phrase, in a rivalry. Even if one school has lost 4 straight, that school will continue to "talk shit." That's part of what keeps a rivalry going.

So if we've lost 4 straight, but we're beating them in recruiting to all neutral eyes, then we talk shit there.

If we all lived by your expectations, for the past 7 years, we couldn't have said anything regarding OSU.

"Oh yeah, did you hear about Jim Tressell lying to the NCAA? He's in a ton of shit. But we can't talk about it, we've lost 7 straight, so I guess we just have to sit here with our heads down crying."

Third off, as a poster below said, I'm not "talking shit" about the fact that we have Morris. I brought this up because they're obssessed with Shane Morris, a recruit of ours, despite the fact they've won 4 straight.

Practice makes perfect. Unless you're the Buckeyes. Then you have to cheat.

He didn't say anything about wins and losses, he was pointing out how many threads they have on our one commit, and saying it's funny. It is. If we beat them four times in a row and then we did something really lame like that, they would have every right to make fun of us.

The whole point IS they've won four in a row, so why do they care so much about a recruit. When we on 6 in a row, we weren't obsessing over who they recruited. Heck, we've lost four in a row, and we're not obsessing over who they've recruited.

I just see this as an opportunity for Dantonio to pick a fight with a high schooler instead of a college kid this time....

It's always a good time to talk trash to sparty. It's so easy. They're always mad. They won 4 in a row, and beat Georgia and they still whine like they got robbed or something. Even when I try and be nice and talk about football with my sparty friends and say conciliatory things it sets them off. It's too much fun to not mess with them.

One of those threads (throwing to Arnett) was dated yesterday morning, before this video, and relates to one of their players (at a position of need/desperation this year). The one about "what is he eating" at least I interpret as a "holy crap, think we have enough Shane threads on this board?" So I'm not sure if either of those really count as outrage.

Of the remaining two, they are copies of each other. They both posted the video of the Dantonio impersonation. Even there, a lot of people are loling or saying it's no big deal. Not sure you can really hide Dantonio's stern demeanor, lol, but I'm also not sure we can call it outrage yet.

Of course they're mad. You're right in that they shouldn't be, but they are. Hey, nobody said Sparty fans were rational or clear minded! No victory is ever going to make them happy and for good reason. No matter how much they win, no matter what they win at, they will always be considered second tier by every analyst, broadcaster, expert, and average joe in the country. Even now, when they're having some of the best success in their programs history, more than half of the story lines involve "Will Sparty surpass Michigan" or "Is Michigan on the way out". I'd be ticked off too if half the headlines and stories about the Wolverines involved a comparison or opinion in regards to MSU.

Isn't there a little truth to the circle jerk comment? These guys are all top level guys, so they aren't going there to get noticed or get recruited. They're there to get exposure and talk about how awesome they are.

So anytime successful people are together in one place, it's a cirlce jerk?

By the way - they aren't all top level guys, at least not that everyone knows. Some of them have lower level offers and are fishing for more. Some are looking to boost up their rankings. Some are trying to recruit other guys to their school. Some are there to meet the guys from other schools and see who they fit in with the best. Some of them are just 17 year olds who are excited about being on TV (understandably so).

Right - or all of the other things I listed above. Or how about - it's fun! I went to summer camp every year without anything to "gain" from it other than having a good time and meeting people. Shane seems like a personable guy, maybe he likes hanging out with people who, like him, are top notch football players that he has a lot in common with.

Or maybe you're right and he's just in it for a game of soggy biscuit with the top athletes in the country.

Why does this competition exist? Is it for high level athletes to high five each other, and say hey, we're awesome? No. Think about it. This is a HUGE (let me say that again H-U-G-E) Marketing coup for Nike. Recruiting is a massively hot item right now. People (aka me) are obsessed with it to the point of stalking recruits on twitter (Not recommended, just say no people). The whole point of the Opening is to capitalize on this. Nike wants to sell shoes, and shirts, and little gold necklaces with swooshes on them. The way to do that is to get athletes that are obsessed over by fans (aka me) to come to their party, wear their gear, show how amazing and awesome they are at football, and make fans go buy Nike gear because they think it will help them throw a football like Shane Morris, or run like Derrick Green (or maybe they just really like the swoosh). Middle 3 star recruits aren't going to draw the fans like 5 and high 4 stars will. So no, it's not a circle jerk. It's a high level competition between the best athletes in the country that serves a secondary purpose of selling lots of cool Nike stuff. The kids are on board because they get to go against the best of the best (think Top Gun here people) and the execs like it because it makes them $$. It's a win win situation. The only losers in this are the MSU fans, so it's not like anybody that matters is getting hurt.

can get dealt into AA situations in the short term. Mathematics says it won't last.

Every man at some point is gonna lose a battle. He's gonna fight and he's gonna lose. But what makes him a man, is that in the midst of that battle he does not lose himself. This game is not over, this battle is not over. So let's hear it .

RCMB is what happens when there is no order. The u mad bro types take over. State needs a better run blog/board that doesn't represent the couch burning contingent of their fanbase. I'm glad there are mods here to keep our heads on.

TOC is a really good blog. A while back when Tim was still at MGoBlog, he gave them his Hello: write up for Aaron Burbridge. I just wish they'd get more traffic, they don't have nearly the amount of fan posts as RCMB, which sucks because the quality of their actual writing is really good.

Practice makes perfect. Unless you're the Buckeyes. Then you have to cheat.

It feels like I'm watching Jerry Springer (when I was a kid). I know I'm wasting my time on absurd people, but the constant train wreck never ceases to amaze me.

Every man at some point is gonna lose a battle. He's gonna fight and he's gonna lose. But what makes him a man, is that in the midst of that battle he does not lose himself. This game is not over, this battle is not over. So let's hear it .

RCMB is a place I try to stay away from as I enjoy my IQ where it is at, but I couldn't help reading some of those threads and I can't stop laughing. They seriously are trying to say they wouldn't take Shane?? Wow the force is strong in them.

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.