Couldn't tell you because I didn't watch the game. The hata's fascination with the Jets' preseason fortunes is downright ClamChowdahian.

You do realize that you're standing smacktalk shoulder to shoulder with a guy who really hoped last preseason that Kyle Orton had really turned a corner and would soon sign an extension to stay on for a few more years.

Preseason is preseason. None of it makes any difference.

I never hoped for anything there douche...I did however ask you or another nuthugger like yourself if it was possible that Orton would be re-signed by the Broncos if he played well and Broncos had a good season, after a nuthugger had stated he was a lame duck QB. Turns out he didn't play well, and he was benched and then released....and I had no problem with it.

I also stated that if the Broncos benched Orton and played Tebow, that they needed to leave Tebow as the starter regardless as it would help his development and confidence vs. jerking him in and out of the line up.

See the difference between us is I didn't defend Orton after he was benched, or after he was waived...

you on the other hand whined like a little b**** over Tebow being traded....waxing poetic about how sad it was and the tears in your kid's eyes as you and him cried together over what was to most a no brainer decision to get rid of his non-throwing ass...and you're still whining, and constantly trying to discount the Manning signing and the fact that this team is heads and shoulders better due to the addition of Manning and subtraction of Tim Tebow as our starting QB.

true and the hatred for a guy that did some positives around here is uncalled for

Hatred is wishing someone would take a crowbar to another player's knees or head in order for Tebow to play.....

Hatred is posing a scenario of how much better off the franchise would be if a hypothetical plane crash resulted in the death of John Elway and John Fox....because they didn't treat Tebow the way the nuthuggers though they should.

Saying that Tebow is a great guy who has yet to develop into a moderately tolerable QB is not hatred...it's an honest assessment

I never hoped for anything there douche...I did however ask you or another nuthugger like yourself if it was possible that Orton would be re-signed by the Broncos if he played well and Broncos had a good season, after a nuthugger had stated he was a lame duck QB. Turns out he didn't play well, and he was benched and then released....and I had no problem with it.

I also stated that if the Broncos benched Orton and played Tebow, that they needed to leave Tebow as the starter regardless as it would help his development and confidence vs. jerking him in and out of the line up.

See the difference between us is I didn't defend Orton after he was benched, or after he was waived...

you on the other hand whined like a little b**** over Tebow being traded....waxing poetic about how sad it was and the tears in your kid's eyes as you and him cried together over what was to most a no brainer decision to get rid of his non-throwing ass...and you're still whining, and constantly trying to discount the Manning signing and the fact that this team is heads and shoulders better due to the addition of Manning and subtraction of Tim Tebow as our starting QB.

true and the hatred for a guy that did some positives around here is uncalled for

I cant speak for the others here, but my "hate" never came about because of tebow as a person or player. When I said he wasn't good I got blasted by blinded fans. So it just makes it a little sweeter when he doesnt play well. Not because of him though, but because of some of his followers.

I cant speak for the others here, but my "hate" never came about because of tebow as a person or player. When I said he wasn't good I got blasted by blinded fans. So it just makes it a little sweeter when he doesnt play well. Not because of him though, but because of some of his followers.

Go back to draft day when we picked him I bet you won't find many posters as happy about drafting him as me. Now because of these clowns I feel just like this.

Go back to draft day when we picked him I bet you won't find many posters as happy about drafting him as me. Now because of these clowns I feel just like this.

I agree...I liked the pick because he was a high character guy, a born leader, a generally great guy, and I thought he'd be a special QB who would overcome his throwing mechanic problems because he was such a hard working guy....

however after watching him play at the NFL level (and reading/listening to his whacked nut job fans blame everyone, and anyone for his problems) I formed the opinion that he was not the long term answer... but he did help us win 8 games last season (playoffs included)....and was a positive locker room presence and all around great guy...

but again his whack job fans made his staying in Denver kind of unbearable for the FO in my opinion.

I agree...I liked the pick because he was a high character guy, a born leader, a generally great guy, and I thought he'd be a special QB who would overcome his throwing mechanic problems because he was such a hard working guy....

however after watching him play at the NFL level (and reading/listening to his whacked nut job fans blame everyone, and anyone for his problems) I formed the opinion that he was not the long term answer... but he did help us win 8 games last season (playoffs included)....and was a positive locker room presence and all around great guy...

but again his whack job fans made his staying in Denver kind of unbearable for the FO in my opinion.

Bull****. You went from riding Orton's jock all last offseason...

(buh buh buh, if he plays good, why can't we resign him Pleeeeeez? Best Chance to Win guys, Best Chance to Win.)

Straight to hating on Tebow from Start #1 last year.

Let's just say your Jimmy the Greekin' based on offseason Camp Champery is somewhat suspect.

Look it up MCDUMBASS I said I was glad to have Manning but we should have kept TT as well..............**** you retard......don't assume **** cause it makes you look like the fool you are.

Only lately have you tards gone about explanation your BS hatred for a former Bronco who did nothing but good for the team because you got called out for your idiot take of basically saying he will never be an nfl qb and he can't throw even throw he did while here.

You two CANNOT see the future so shut up.
You two are just losers to consistently talk about the guy like he was some sort of a POS in the locker room or off the field...............all he did was win and bring some enjoyment to an an otherwise terrible season.

You two should be thrown under the bus like you have tried to do to him..........sad individuals you two are

I agree...I liked the pick because he was a high character guy, a born leader, a generally great guy, and I thought he'd be a special QB who would overcome his throwing mechanic problems because he was such a hard working guy....

however after watching him play at the NFL level (and reading/listening to his whacked nut job fans blame everyone, and anyone for his problems) I formed the opinion that he was not the long term answer... but he did help us win 8 games last season (playoffs included)....and was a positive locker room presence and all around great guy...

but again his whack job fans made his staying in Denver kind of unbearable for the FO in my opinion.

I think there is a place in the NFL for Tebow but his fans just make it impossible to keep him on the bench.

I think there is a place in the NFL for Tebow but his fans just make it impossible to keep him on the bench.

really come on..............not true.

The only reson people called for TT last year was because Orton stunk it up.............Manning is here now and there is no way people would be calling for TT except for gimmick type plays or maybe a goal line type. Other than that no way in hell.

Sick of a-holes dumping on the guy............people cannot see the future in anyway and do not know what will happen to this guy but he sure as hell helped us out last year and deserves our respect for that.

The only reson people called for TT last year was because Orton stunk it up.............Manning is here now and there is no way people would be calling for TT except for gimmick type plays or maybe a goal line type. Other than that no way in hell.

Sick of a-holes dumping on the guy............people cannot see the future in anyway and do not know what will happen to this guy but he sure as hell helped us out last year and deserves our respect for that.

Where else does the back-up QB get a billboard pushing for him to start? I think Orton melted under the pressure Tebow created, kind like the way Plummer was sucking when Cutler was behind him.

And how does he get an equal amount of booing and cheers when he comes into a game like he did in N.Y. tonight/ He is a very divisive personality and it if Sanchez struggles the fans in NY will demand that Tebow starts even though he shouldn't.

Look it up MCDUMBASS I said I was glad to have Manning but we should have kept TT as well..............**** you retard......don't assume **** cause it makes you look like the fool you are.

Only lately have you tards gone about explanation your BS hatred for a former Bronco who did nothing but good for the team because you got called out for your idiot take of basically saying he will never be an nfl qb and he can't throw even throw he did while here.

You two CANNOT see the future so shut up.
You two are just losers to consistently talk about the guy like he was some sort of a POS in the locker room or off the field...............all he did was win and bring some enjoyment to an an otherwise terrible season.

You two should be thrown under the bus like you have tried to do to him..........sad individuals you two are

Sorry to break your bubble but the reality is: this never had the slightest chance of ever happening. Elway & Fox had already determined that Tebow's skill set didn't match what they envisioned for the future... and once they got Manning, why would Tebow want to stay (and hold the clipboard for Manning with no opportunity whatsoever to compete for the starting job)? The bottom line is... Tebow wanted the trade as much as Elway & Fox did.

He should have never tried to change his mechanics. So very dumb to do that. Guy was an accurate passer in college but all the pressure of the NFL wizkids somehow convinced him to try and shave 0.1s off his throwing motion. That said, I still think he starts for the Jets sometime this season.

Here in Denver, our coaching staff re-designed the offense to better fit Tebow. It seems New York wants him to sub in their traditional offense, and if anyone remembers the Detroit game last year, you don't need a psychic to know how that is going to turn out.