Wasn't that the same theme with the first Star Trek Movie? The Voyager came back in search of it's creator after becomg sentient rom all the information it gathered. But it was called "V ger" due to a scuff mark on the probe.

1) I loved it when Neko refered to Google 'bots taking over this site: but I would like to reserve the phrase "Google 'bot" for those people who get all their info off the web.

2) Who thinks that Zion and all that jazz is still in the Matrix?(i.e. the whole "escape" that occured for Neo and other's in the 1st Matrix movie was just a sub-programmed reality for that 0.5% who can't tolerate the "normally" programmed Matrix reality). Explains why Neo had the ability to zap the drones at the very end of the movie...even after having left the matrix. Do you think that a planet full of human's who have lived their lives in "muck" battery chambers would be physically capable of just getting up and walking to Zion? My guess is that the Matrix is an emergency rescue plan enacted by humans to save humans, with a small "heroic" subroutine for the maladjusted outsiders like Neo. (\me: <Not explaining very well>).

thought the same thing about their being a matrix within a matrix. Would make sence a kind of abstract programming

that or because he can do things in the matrix which is simlation of reality some abilities their can be used in reality because the matrix is a digital plane of existance with the same rules as universe which is a kind of anolog reality which has the same rules as the simulated copy of it self alows for simular manipulation. This manipulation can be carried across the different systems because to the human brain their is no way to distingish which is which simple because preseption of ones surrounding are in essence electrical signals so something that simluates those signals is to you no differnet from the original on which the simualtion was built

Shtoink wrote:Wasn't that the same theme with the first Star Trek Movie? The Voyager came back in search of it's creator after becomg sentient rom all the information it gathered. But it was called "V ger" due to a scuff mark on the probe.

It was actually space-crud. And this super-advanced intelligence wasn't even smart enough to wipe the crud off its case and figure out the correct name.

There is a movie called "The 13th floor" which came out just after the Matrix that deals with that. The first time I saw it, I thought it was a matrix rip off until I heard that it was written a long time ago. Go see it, it's pretty good with lots of twists and turns.

RageX wrote:It was actually space-crud. And this super-advanced intelligence wasn't even smart enough to wipe the crud off its case and figure out the correct name.

But that would have ruined the plot, and wasn't Einstein a bit sad in the hygien department? I'm not even sure he could even tie his own shoes, but don't get into an arguement about any advanced mathmatics.