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^its not just stairs, its bench's as well. Anything that provides a resting place, and if its poorly lit it will be even more desirable. I have brought this up before re some of the Quarters plans, where I said "that won't work, it will be a homeless magnet", but it seems then get accused "Edmonton can't have nice things". Its not that, its just you have to remove trouble areas, and design with the possibility of this happening, in mind.

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Easy to criticize when you don't have to deal with the problem. Ashetsen, save your self-righteousness, you don't know the context, details nor who was involved. The stairs in question that were removed were not in great shape and rarely used. EPS, City had to weigh the pros and cons. Many stakeholders were consulted.

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I should point out that those stairs were there for several decades and weren't really an issue until the homeless shelter opened in the motel next to Edmonton House.

No kidding.

The stairs are the problem.

Not the crack shack.

Yep. So shortsighted of the City to close the Stairs and especially at this time when access from the river valley to the downtown is extremely limited. At a time that we are supposedly promoting use of the river valley we are closing stairs to it. Wow, only in Edmonton?

"if god exists and he allowed that to happen, then its better that he doesn't exist"

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^its not just stairs, its bench's as well. Anything that provides a resting place, and if its poorly lit it will be even more desirable. I have brought this up before re some of the Quarters plans, where I said "that won't work, it will be a homeless magnet", but it seems then get accused "Edmonton can't have nice things". Its not that, its just you have to remove trouble areas, and design with the possibility of this happening, in mind.

Divided opinion on this. I've had the same concern but the primary difficulty is the overall failure of LMP to consistently get general pop in the area and utilizing that area. Not at all helped by the COE itself several times boarding up and fencing areas for prolonged times including right now. The City does this far too often and with such shortsighted vision that they build something and then spend the rest of the time after having it under continual construction, disarray, fenced off etc.

More events, more development in that park, and actually working to make it a focal point would help. Its a known that if you build facilities that are not generally used by most citizens then somebody will move in and make use of it.

Reminds me of a summer Event on Whyte Avenue regarding usable art. they build these installations people can sit on and next thing you know street people are sleeping on them. Who saw that coming..

"if god exists and he allowed that to happen, then its better that he doesn't exist"