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Originally posted by: g3xoiThis certainly needs clarifying since membership grades were disconnected from qualifications - they still are connected in [most] other professional bodies.

I would certainly support MIET to be included in the list of people who can countersign. After all academic qualifications to degree level plus experience are required to obtain MIET and there are engineers in top jobs including senior University lectures in engineering and science departments who have MIET but not CEng or IEng. Don't they count as being professional? Check out the list below:

I think the reason why they say "engineer (with professional qualifications)" is to distinguish between cowboys who call them self engineers and those at professional level. Most registered engineers would interpret that as being CEng or IEng. However It doesn't take much to be a "Trade Union Officer".They just ask members to volunteer to be Officers and that's all there is to it. MIET is certainly well above that standard. And I can't see chiropodists building Aircraft, the internet, roads and Bridges any day?

Come on IET pull your finger out and do something useful for your members. Get MIET included on that list. We pay enough to earn it.

I notice that 'professional photographer' is on there, so rather than trying to find a CEng FIET PhD etc etc I suggest just nipping down to the bars in Soho on a Saturday night - there's usually plenty of professional photographers looking for models there... (or so I've heard )

Originally posted by: amillarso rather than trying to find a CEng FIET PhD etc etc I suggest just nipping down to the bars in Soho on a Saturday night - there's usually plenty of professional photographers looking for models there... (or so I've heard )

I think you'll probably find a few more names on the list frequenting the Bars.

Having another look at the list and it does suggest MIET is suitable by way of the indirect statement as follows:

member, associate or fellow of a professional body

So I take back what I said before.........about the IET pulling it's finger out that is.

Interestingly enough the BCS, who used to have a big presence on the list some time back, seem to have gone off the radar.

I would certainly support MIET to be included in the list of people who can countersign. After all academic qualifications to degree level plus experience are required to obtain MIET and there are engineers in top jobs including senior University lectures in engineering and science departments who have MIET but not CEng or IEng. Don't they count as being professional?

What about EngTech's who have MIET with postgraduate level qualifications? Surely they are being discriminated.

It is definitely YES, I have been doing so for 30 years even when I was an Associate Member. None have been refused in all of that time. We are also accepted as referees for Firearms and Shotgun Certificates, Airport Security Passes and many others.