US launches Tomahawks on Syrian airbases

And how exactly is that different from when Russia first went in to Syria? The agreement only came about because of Turkey shooting down a Russian
aircraft. There was no cooperation agreement or hotline before that, and no dangerous incidents.

Fuel degradation could also be an issue. I'm speaking as a control systems expert, not a Tomahawk expert, so I don't know if the missiles are
preloaded with fuel or fueled prior to deployment. If the fuel performed poorly enough, though, that would directly affect the ability of the controls
to manipulate the trajectory.

On the other hand, maybe Russia has been waiting and planning for a long time for a reason to attack.

I tend to think they are as corrupt as us, but with less control at the top. If they were planning some mastermind attack they would just do it.

It's the response of America if/when one of our jets is shot down over Syria.

NO I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR US TO BE SHOT DOWN

Sorry, some people seem to get that misconception from my participation in the thread. I'm worried about a possible response that could end in that
result. For some reason people think that is inconceivable and/or impossible.

With this event it's very likely (IMO) that a response will happen in the form of one of our jets being shot down.

The UN are the good guys?? To hell with the UN!! Those blue helmets should have a target on them.

ETA... got my helmet colors confused.

UN is not good guys or bad guys. It's just a platform created to avoid another large conflict. It's made of us. When it's not functional it's because
we suck. They are talking about it at UN as we speak.

Exactly right. That's due to weather, probably. It doesn't need to be a storm or anything that fantastic, just different air masses in the area.

GPS receivers collect satellite signals with precise timing, then calculate location based on the relative phase shifts in those signals. Anything
that slightly affects one signal more than another will create an error, and air does affect the speed of EM waves propagating through it. I've had my
car GPS showing me driving in the field beside the highway many times.

Metallic reflection causes sudden large shifts because the receiver is accepting a reflected signal rather than an original, sort of like trying to
see something through a mirror. It looks farther away than if no mirror was used, because the light has to travel past you to the mirror, then back to
you instead of just directly to you.

The UN are the good guys?? To hell with the UN!! Those blue helmets should have a target on them.

ETA... got my helmet colors confused.

UN is not good guys or bad guys. It's just a platform created to avoid another large conflict. It's made of us. When it's not functional it's because
we suck. They are talking about it at UN as we speak.

Yeah, and the UN cant be trusted either, jokes aside. They can be used and because people still trust their word for whatever reason, their word can
be used to start something catastrophic.

I thought Assad destroyed his? Or are you admitting he violated UN directives, along with Russia?

TheRedneck

THATS what I was talking about earlier.. THIS is going to be an issue. People have SHORT memories. Russia has placed itself in a precarious position
from having agreed to receive and dispose of chems.. when it can be said they have not. KWIM?

Seems to be a lot of fighter jet activity out of Buckley AFB east of Denver today - I imagine heightened alert? Usually I only hear a lot of activity
over the weekends, that's when they seem to do a lot of their maneuvers. I've heard them flying over several times today.

I will have to take up for Russia here. They felt backed into a corner by the Obama administration. Ukraine and Crimea were not what we were told (and
I got this directly from the lips of a Russian student). We stirred those pots to try and distract Russia from Syria. They need the Russia/Iran/Syria
trade agreement.

The thing is, I think they misjudged Trump. They expected him to be as meek on actual conflict as Obama, and more open to negotiation. I think Trump
would still like negotiation, but he wants to negotiate from a position of strength. He has that advantage now.

Pentagon officials say the U.S. is investigating the role that Russia may have played in Syria's chemical weapons attack on its own civilians
earlier this week. According to an Associated Press report, a drone that belonged to either Russia or Syria was seen hovering over the site on Tuesday
after the attack, which killed more than 80 people, including at least 20 children. That same drone reportedly returned to the area later, just before
a hospital was bombed. The hospital raid was allegedly an attempt at covering up evidence of the chemical attack, according to AP sources.

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