For all you fucking kids that say "Brady just wins", even though he went ten years between titles...Graham went to the Championship Game ten years in a row, winning seven of the ten. Bobby Lane's Lions won a couple in a row to break things up. But no one "just won" like Otto Graham and Marion Motley, and that was before Jim Brown even arrived to the Browns squad.

>>65478669Favre was the "clumsy, ballsy gunslinger" whereas Marino was the prototypical pocket passer with the quickest release in football history.The ball was in the receiver's hands 2 seconds after the snap from center.

When I did my list, I put Tark in the Demi-God list. Tough to put him at the God Tier without a championship, and I didn't feel like his accomplishments reached what Marino would later do (who made my God level). But OP's list with Marino as GOAT should have had Tark as a God by his standards.

Moon is hard to put on the list with his no Superb Owl and epic playoff collapse. Jim Kelly was good, but he also lost to an inferior Giants team in the Owl. Tough to put them there, although they would probably be the next two guys on if I extended my list here

Wilson almost entirely undid all of the good from his first Super Bowl with his goal line interception. If he wins another you can put him on the list somewhere, but otherwise he needs a long career of great numbers to even be considered at best low Godtier.

He hasn't even begun to peak, and when he does peak, you'll know because he's gonna peak so hard that everybody in Denver is gonna feel it.

He's in his prime, and I bet you he could bring the biggest dynasty to the NFL just based on what he's already done as a GM alone, and your loser team will be crushed by them because it's shitty, and that's just the way of the world. All he has to do is turn on his Super Bowl winning charm, and the NFL will be putty in his hands.

bress definitely in GOD and Favre in GOATRodgers himself is already borderline GOD and should be in, in a year or twoa few missing for DEMI-GOD if people like aikman get in, like moon mccnab etcfavre > marino

>elway

literaly a meme shit who could do nothing but get BTFO in owls without his elite rb

>>65479428I think rapistburger needs to be mentioned with his two owls and being a key component getting the Steelers' 6th Bowl. I haven't followed his career that closely at all but that would put him near Bradshaw levels

>>65479958Post-season and 4th quarter, he turns into some type of God. Regular season he can be inconsistent. Definitely one of the better QBs in the league but hes usually good rather than incredible.

>>65478682Romo should have won last year's MVPhad more fourth quarter winning drives and his numbers got better towards the end while Rodgers started off great and dropped in formthe MVP is won and lost in December but this Fudge Packer still won

Tom Brady is the GOAT. Tom Brady is the only one who would be in the top 5 talent wise and the top 5 career achievements wise. Rodgers is more talented than Brady but lacks the Belichick requires to reach career achievement GOAT.

>>65478682This is a misleading stat since it disregards all the times Rodgers tied or gained a lead in the 4th only to have the defense shit it away in under 2 minutes. Just look at this last season. He brought them back at least 5-6 times only to have a missed FG or never get the ball in OT

>>65484819>rodgers dicision making isn't great and he isn't clutchDude pulled like 2.5 hail marys this season alone and he isn't clutch? He always ends in the top 7 qbs for rushing and is literally the best qb on film since Marino. His pocket movement, scramble ability, pre snap ability, and ball placement are all in the top 3 for all qbs

>>65478243Manning is the most overrated QB of all time. May be the best regular season quarterback of all time. In the playoffs, he's just about as a good as a damn rookie. I'd have most of those guys over him any day.

I do appreciate the Big Ben love though. I can live with a Demi-God ranking. But if he wins at least one more, which I think he will, he's gotta move up.

>farve not goat tier>3x consecutive mvp>most consecutive starts>that arm>had the most fun playing the game>1st pass completed to himself>would fuck your shit up senpai>literally did not give a single fuck

>>65483203Rodgers is the most overrated QB of this current generation. He's extremely accurate and has a cannon for an arm but seems to have trouble with elite defenses. Doesn't help that the Packers D always sucks except for the one year they won the owl with him.

Troy Aikman has only 24 more touchdowns than interceptions. If you include rushing touchdowns and fumbles lost as functional TD's/Turnovers, his TD/Turnover difference for his career shrinks to 11. 11 more TD's than turnovers.

Ben has had the better career. If Ben wins another Superb Owl, Ben will be a GOAT tier. Aikman is the Bradshaw of his generation.

>>65496425Yes you did. 49ers came up with the west coast offense and Marino came up with 5 wideout sets and teams had no answer for it for years, pretty much until the early 90s. Modern defenses are much faster and oriented to defend the pass so it's a more complex issue than going all THEY WERE KILLIN HIM BACK THEN HE'S THE GOAT like a fucking casual pleb.

Pure talent and skill wise, Young was superior to Montana. Obviously one has 4 rings and the other just one so people rate Montana higher but still, if I had to pick one of them in their prime I'd pick Young.

>>65496496Again, learn about the history of the game. This is all after the Mel Blount rule. The West Coast/spread sets would've been murdered out of existence if they had taken place before this rule went into effect. The Mel Blount rule made careers for guys like Bill Walsh, Montana, and Marino.

You could still get away with a lot during the 80s but not nearly as much as the 70s.

manning belongs on the goat tier with brady and montana, he fixed his shitty playoff record and is the greatest regular season quarterback ever with a positive playoff record and 2 rings

not the clutchest by any means but he has stats out the ass and 2 rings + fixed record now

montana and brady definitely much better playoff wise, but manning did work in regular seasons in comparison

still think montana is the greatest ever, manning is just regular season and brady has arguable goat coach at least defensively and that 'system' even made that one scrub backup look respectable the year he was injured

could also argue with brady vs manning that manning did great with multiple coaches on multiple teams if you wanted, but i think obvious ranking would be montana > brady > manning, manning being up so high because of accomplishments and the fact he has a stupid amount of nfl records now

>>65496489People say he's bad against good teams even though he won a SB with a top 5 all time playoff passer rating.

They forget he's bad against good defense because he's never had a HoF level talent on offense to throw to. Brady got to throw to Moss and Gronk. Rodgers only has had Nelson and Finley, neither of which will make HoF.

>>65497496He was too good for his own good, never got a solid draft pick to get a good running back. The closest was Karim Abdul Jabbar.

Closest Marino got was in 1985, AFCCG against the Patriots everyone decided they were going to go full retard and have 6 turnovers. Had they won, the 85 bears would've got destroyed like they did on Monday night football. Marino was the only QB built to shred that meme 46 defense. 31-10 at half time nigger. Instead the cunt Pats got blown the fuck out who clearly didn't belong there.

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