I like dragons and want to see more in game, and not just the evil ones. Not only more, I want to see more powerful ones, ones who actually use all the powers they possess not only a small percentage of them.

/rubs genie lamp

hydra_ex

11-14-2009, 10:21 AM

I like dragons and want to see more in game, and not just the evil ones. Not only more, I want to see more powerful ones, ones who actually use all the powers they possess not only a small percentage of them.

/rubs genie lamp

Well... Cydonie is technically a dragon... (at least I think)

So granted, but we won't be able to fight any of them.

Having to fight more dragons would be great. Devils are getting boring.

Depravity

11-14-2009, 10:25 AM

I like dragons and want to see more in game, and not just the evil ones. Not only more, I want to see more powerful ones, ones who actually use all the powers they possess not only a small percentage of them.

/rubs genie lamp

Oh great, more wing buffett. :p
For real fun, get some friends together and let them fight a young adult dragon w/ the hover feat. Near-guaranteed party wipe.

Eberron fluff is actually pretty big on dragons being rare and remote from the affairs of mere mortals. That said, I do enjoy interacting with them. :)
Getting a dracolich going wouldn't be bad either.

Wizzly_Bear

11-14-2009, 10:53 AM

Well... Cydonie is technically a dragon... (at least I think)

So granted, but we won't be able to fight any of them.

Having to fight more dragons would be great. Devils are getting boring.
you know....I don't think I could ever get tired of fighting dragons, unless maybe they all spammed buffet (but that would go back to part of my request that they use ALL of their abilities, not just some).

/drools at thought of as many dragons in game as devils

Xenus_Paradox

11-14-2009, 12:54 PM

Adding green dragons and metallics would be nice.

Being able to throw down with the Truthful One would be AWESOME. I mean, we thwarted his plan to raise an undead army, surely he's going to want revenge?

moorewr

11-14-2009, 02:03 PM

/signed - absolutely signed.

I'd like them free to fly and use breath weapons as well as spells, fear aura, tail, bite, claw, buffet. Above all I want super tough dragons that AREN'T red-named.

I'd also like to see the Truthful One plot continue.. although fighting a dracolich of that magnitude should in fairness be at least as hard as the beat-down portion of the Ascension Chamber.

mediocresurgeon

11-14-2009, 02:17 PM

I would love to face off against the Truthful One.

However, I would like to see less undead in the game (nobody likes monsters immune to their coolest attacks).

Metallic dragons, a prismatic dragon, a force dragon, and/or a green dragon would be great additions to the game.

I want a shadow dragon or a Dracolich added, (then my kewl ghost touched greater dragon bane greatsword would rock, im holding it in a bank slot hoping the day will someday come)
Deal!

Turial

11-25-2009, 01:05 PM

I want a dragon who can fly for some of the time. It would be hard to do but amazing. Think something like demon queen and shroud part 4 but where the dragon actually takes off and flies around.

Letrii

11-25-2009, 01:59 PM

Then they could give us fly spell and give favored soul their rightful class ability.

Kromize

11-25-2009, 03:15 PM

When will the day come when we can actually call this game something other than "Dungeons and a Few Dragons Here and There", or back in the day, "Dungeons and A Dragon", or on release before MOD 1, "Dungeons and some monsters" :P

ICPNinja

12-14-2009, 03:27 PM

/Signed!

/signed!

This game wasn't named Dungeons and Devils Online: Eberron Unlimited!

Well for those who are F2P it seems more like Dungeons and Kobolds. And I would love to see at least a couple Dragons to fight on F2P quests. Kinda unfair that only P2P characters can fight them or you have to save up to buy the Adventure Packs that contain them. It is a huge jip that the only F2P Dragon you see you can't even fight.

Sarazahj

12-14-2009, 03:32 PM

More Dragons would be great,but I'm really against non-red named Dragons,Vorpal on those would just be lame and there's no excuse to give them an immunity,they do need their head to survive and in DDO even a Halfling can reach the head of a 20 foot Giant so yeah...

Bogenbroom

12-14-2009, 03:44 PM

Well, only if it is in extreme upper end content. I still get annoyed as hell seeing a dragon in Misery's Peak. Even then, I wouldn't want there to be a *lot* of them.

captain1z

12-14-2009, 04:01 PM

Was hoping for:

- Dracolich (thought there might be one in reavers refuge when it first came out but it was Sor'jek)

- A large dragon of any color as a rare encounter in an explorer area. One who can fly, breath fire and cast spells.
(and some rare loot or collectables/ingredients.....idea: red dragon scales for new armor)

- A raid that takes place in a dragons lair....... a big one.

Cyr

12-14-2009, 04:26 PM

/signed

I think a lot of lower level content could benefit from this also. Smaller dragons like those in the Tor or weaker that can actually move a little unlike Velah which was perhaps the worst monster coding job in game. (yes worse then dogs that run away even). Of course high level content could have a lot of smaller ones or a few bigger ones too :)

Thrudh

12-14-2009, 04:34 PM

Give the dragons in Prey some super loot.... That's the easiest way to add at least ONE dragon fight to the game...

Since NO one does it now...

salmag

12-15-2009, 11:59 AM

/signed

Best idea out there...

other than "fix Ranged combat."

Duskslayer

12-16-2009, 06:55 AM

How about slightly more INTELLIGENT dragons instead?

How often would a dragon just SIT in one place and watch a dozen clowns "solve" some pillar puzzle before nuking them?

And hey.. here comes ONE of those clowns and is trying to kill me.. with a puny sword... Yes! I'll just SIT here and make frightning noises while ALL the others (standing on that tiny little spot) spam heals and buff on this one. Oh wait... I am dying... should I fly perhaps??

The dragons are supposedly VERY intelligent and tough creatures with mezzing and a wide array of intricate power arsenals at their disposals. Why make them sitting ducks?

LET them fly around and let our ranger and casters try to target them instead! LET them wreak havoc with destroyable terrain while our tanks cover the squishies and healers assess the damage. LET them be DRAGONS! Dont clip their wings - set them free! And let it be a VERY difficult fight. Dont make it easy just because you want to gratify some kids with uber weapons. (And DONT let it be another "solvable" method: stand here, and shoot/cast and dragon dead!)

Let an ADVENTURE... An encounter to be something to talk about for weeks.. and not another "meh"!

flynnjsw

12-16-2009, 07:05 AM

/Signed!

Well for those who are F2P it seems more like Dungeons and Kobolds. And I would love to see at least a couple Dragons to fight on F2P quests. Kinda unfair that only P2P characters can fight them or you have to save up to buy the Adventure Packs that contain them. It is a huge jip that the only F2P Dragon you see you can't even fight.

The only problem with that is that unless you are dealing with very young dragons, you need a higher level party to be able to defeat a mature+ dragon (ie VoN).

Armair

12-16-2009, 07:38 AM

/Signed!

Well for those who are F2P it seems more like Dungeons and Kobolds. And I would love to see at least a couple Dragons to fight on F2P quests. Kinda unfair that only P2P characters can fight them or you have to save up to buy the Adventure Packs that contain them. It is a huge jip that the only F2P Dragon you see you can't even fight.

Im going to try and phrase this so I do not come off like a complete ******. The reason people who seeing dragons are P2P is because game design, web hosting, staff salaires and a whole lot of other things I wont get into do not come free. What point would there be in giving everything away for free? Either pay to see new content or dont pay to see new content your choice.

I would love to see them personaly build up enough of a client base to completely drop F2P then we would not have to worry about buying someone a pass to get into dungeons among other things. Show me one successful MMO that is F2P most are **** that is thrown together that makes u buy from a store to progress atleast turbine is giving a choice to either advance using monthly fees or store points.

crazycaren

01-04-2010, 08:33 PM

I'd love to see more dragons in the game. Here are three ideas...

1 How about a lvl 4-6 raid where you fight baby-dragons blue/white/black? It would fit into the Korthos Island storyline. They could be in the nesting ground for the dragons you fight in TOR or something. We already have the whisperdoom daughter/adult example quest chain for spiders.

2 How about having the giants in the threnal area be replaced with teenage-dragons? You could add a dragon end-boss quest to that area too.

3 How about there be an area of Aussircaex's Valley where the dragons are winning? It seems odd to run around a valley named after a dragon and there's all those giants. There's even a mating pair of dragons in the valley. Why not have their offspring in the explorer area?

Taurnish

01-04-2010, 09:53 PM

If you want more dragons or other monsters in the game please post on my thread of suggestions linked below.

I agree this game was not named dungeons and devils :(

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=172313

sirgog

01-04-2010, 10:24 PM

Give the dragons in Prey some super loot.... That's the easiest way to add at least ONE dragon fight to the game...

Since NO one does it now...

Agreed.

If the Devs added the following item with a 1% drop rate (2% hard, 3% elite), I'm pretty sure we'd see people running the Prey dragons.

Of course, the Devs would need to tell us that they were adding something there, otherwise noone would ever find it.

Primalhowl

01-05-2010, 05:36 PM

I'm torn with this...

On one hand, I love dragons and fighting dragons and would like to see them utilized to their fullest. Nothing feels quite like fighting a dragon.

On the other hand, dragons are supposed to be RARE! Name one setting (other than that stupid one where you played dragons or Dragonlance in which the focus WAS dragons) where dragons are anything more than rare, mythical creatures that scare the snot out of the common man.

The fact is, there are a TON of other monsters which would be cool and epic to fight they could add that would make interesting opponents.

On a side note, while the game was named "dungeons and dragons", back in the earliest versions, dragons were not meant to be common. They were meant to be the biggest, baddest MoFo your character would ever encounter... once. If you survived.

sirgog

01-05-2010, 05:47 PM

I'm torn with this...

On one hand, I love dragons and fighting dragons and would like to see them utilized to their fullest. Nothing feels quite like fighting a dragon.

On the other hand, dragons are supposed to be RARE! Name one setting (other than that stupid one where you played dragons or Dragonlance in which the focus WAS dragons) where dragons are anything more than rare, mythical creatures that scare the snot out of the common man.

The fact is, there are a TON of other monsters which would be cool and epic to fight they could add that would make interesting opponents.

On a side note, while the game was named "dungeons and dragons", back in the earliest versions, dragons were not meant to be common. They were meant to be the biggest, baddest MoFo your character would ever encounter... once. If you survived.

Beholders evoke that feeling of 'rare and terrifying' in most D&D campaigns, moreso than dragons, IMO.

Yet if you wander through the Subterrane, you fight heaps and heaps of them.

Ghoste

01-06-2010, 05:00 PM

I like dragons and want to see more in game, and not just the evil ones. Not only more, I want to see more powerful ones, ones who actually use all the powers they possess not only a small percentage of them.

/rubs genie lamp
By the part highlighted, do you mean all the powers of a generic D&D dragon, or all the powers of an Eberron dragon? The difference between the two is really quite huge.

Wizzly_Bear

01-06-2010, 11:18 PM

By the part highlighted, do you mean all the powers of a generic D&D dragon, or all the powers of an Eberron dragon? The difference between the two is really quite huge.
I'm not familiar with specifically Eberron dragons so I guess I'm thinking DnD dragons. How are Eberron dragons different?

assamite

01-06-2010, 11:27 PM

"Dungeons and A Dragon", :P

LMFAO!!! +1 rep for that one

GeneralDiomedes

01-06-2010, 11:30 PM

Yes .. give them Quicken, Maximize and Empower. And make sure they cast as fast as a PC Sorcerer.

Ghoste

01-06-2010, 11:32 PM

I'm not familiar with specifically Eberron dragons so I guess I'm thinking DnD dragons. How are Eberron dragons different?
Physiologically, no different. As far as their potency with magic, they are pretty much god-like.

When Xoriat invaded Eberron, it was beneath them to bother with. Instead, one of them trained orcs to deal with the problem.

They also managed to successfully wage war against even the Na-vakhti (the overlords of the blood of khyber - demons and devils alike, described as minor gods themselves) for a very long time, although it was the dragon-like couatl race that ultimately defeated them and sent them back to Khyber for good. The mighty couatl now only exist in a collective known as the Silver Flame.

RhapsodieInBlue

01-06-2010, 11:34 PM

More quests like Running with the Devils that have us pitted against Metallics (gold i'm guessing) would be fun. With evil being out of the picture alignment wise, I feel that we really do miss a lot of the fun of good outsiders. (Besides Ghaeles of course...searing light supernatural ability can go to hell :D)

*editbecauseijustreadsomethinginteresting*

Wait...The Silver Flame is a bunch of Couatl?

ISO: Rainbow Servant prestige class.

sirgog

01-07-2010, 06:33 AM

I'm not familiar with specifically Eberron dragons so I guess I'm thinking DnD dragons. How are Eberron dragons different?

Eberron dragons tend to actually use their extremely high Intelligence and Wisdom to create intricate plots, and their exceptionally high Charisma to get minions to carry them out.

In short - in *standard* 3.5, that Ancient Green Dragon is seldom a mover and shaker - just another foe to kill (albeit a pretty fearsome one that uses its Int score to devise brilliant tactics on the spot). In Eberron, that same Ancient Green is likely to be a mastermind, working toward a many-layered scheme.

chaos_master

01-07-2010, 06:38 AM

In Eberron, that same Ancient Green is likely to be a mastermind, working toward a many-layered scheme.Can I get a "How awesome would a quest or two like that be!!!"? :)

/signed for a few more dragons amidst entertaining plots and challenging gameplay

/not signed if it results in dragonbanes becoming as popular as banishers/vorpals

JayDubya

01-07-2010, 07:39 AM

Honestly, if the dragon flew, it would be nigh-impossible to kill without a *lot* of archers or a *lot* of nuking sorcs.

Heh, that would be funny, though - make a new quest and all the TWF Tempest DPS builds are useless, and the ranged rangers end up doing all the work :)

Maybe some sort of raid where you're supposed to "take down" a crazed dragon. Let's see.

1) The dragon is terrorizing a part of Xen'drik, near Dar Qat. So the Inspired ask you for help in defeating it.
2) They've found its lair, and they've created a device that will prevent the dragon from flying, but only in a relatively small area (such as the lair) and for a relatively short time.

So the raid:

Part 1 - With Cydonie and/or Thear's blessing, you journey to a village, and as you arrive the dragon shows up, and starts attacking the village. It flies, casts spells, etc, and you simply have to do enough damage to it to get it to seek refuge in its lair.

Part 2, you have to navigate the lair, which is full of traps and minions and whatnot. You have to escort/protect the Inspired folk, with their heavy-gravity device.

Part 3, you face the dragon in its lair. The lair is somewhat like a chimney, (like Coalescence or the solo Dreaming Dark quest) in that if you get wing-buffeted, you won't sail way out of combat. The dragon can attack and cast spells, but it can't fly, because of the Inspired device, but time is running out, and if the device runs out of power, the dragon will simply fly away and you'll fail at your mission.

Part 4 - defeating the dragon reveals something else, more sinister was at play - a pact between the Dreaming Dark and the Lords of Dust. A whole slew of new monsters will be unleashed upon Xen'Drik - incorporal kobolds, raksasha, trogs, trolls, etc - but that will have to wait for the next update :)

Magnyr_Delorn

01-07-2010, 03:20 PM

Your Post

Yes please!

underpants

01-07-2010, 03:34 PM

Right now combat in this game is "grounded" (No levitate, no fly spell, no nothing) Until they unground the combat (we are essentially playing in 2D combat ) Dragons will be pointless. Lets start buy letting wizards levitate over pools of lava and acid.

Borathan

01-08-2010, 08:13 AM

How about a dungeon in a dragons lair.

The objective is to slay the dragon, and perhaps retrieve something specific from its horde.

Have bonus objectives for reaching specific "chokepoints" inside where you set traps on your way in that you can sneak or fight your way to along with the usual rare spawns.

Now, the kicker comes from the dungeon alert system, if it gets to high the dragon comes after you, triggering each of those traps you've set on your way in as you run to escape before having a showdown with an injured dragon on the surface, setting up the first trap you set up (and the last one activated) being one that is set up to prevent it from flying in order to create a more "even" fight on the ground.

Other than that trap, you have the option of heading directly to the dragon and setting off the pursuit, or a longer path that has you setting the other traps.

So signing on this one. We definitely need more dragons - how about where we have to outwit one - not strictly a melee type encounter?

Jules

JustWinBaby

09-03-2010, 09:11 AM

I'm a little late, but that's alright :)

/signed

Wizzly_Bear

09-03-2010, 09:27 AM

I'm a little late, but that's alright :)

/signed
"I'm not from Texas, but I got here as soon as I could"

You're never too late to find the right place to be :cool:

Rakian_Knight

09-03-2010, 09:51 AM

A dragon as a rare encounter would be awesome but instead of younger dragons being slayers why now add the draconic or half-dragon template to some of the monsters in the area?

The lack of dragons and other key races where one of the few things that made me sad about this game. Dragons are a perfect end boss for any level campaign. I've had level 1 adventures that featured a white wyrmling as the end boss/ mastermind.

/signed

Mercureal

09-03-2010, 10:20 AM

/Signed!

Well for those who are F2P it seems more like Dungeons and Kobolds. And I would love to see at least a couple Dragons to fight on F2P quests. Kinda unfair that only P2P characters can fight them or you have to save up to buy the Adventure Packs that contain them. It is a huge jip that the only F2P Dragon you see you can't even fight.

I think there are 2 more dragons available to F2P, you just need to go hunting around in the Twelve Enclave.

Scraap

09-03-2010, 10:28 AM

On the whole rare bit: we've got a few dragons in dungeons, a dungeon in a dragon (corpse) would seem to be some good spoof material the next time they go into their silly phase.

Wizzly_Bear

10-01-2010, 12:40 AM

re-issuing proposition

Raodin-bel-iori

10-24-2010, 11:04 PM

Yes, Yes. More dragons! Fighting dragons is supposed to be the pinnacle of challenge in D&D, and the more of it the better.

voodoogroves

10-24-2010, 11:21 PM

Not only do I want more dragons, I want more dungeons.

Seriously, dragons that MOVE more would be good.

stille_nacht

10-24-2010, 11:23 PM

tick off the dragon in Prey on the Hunter, its mate will come at you too... fun times

/signed

though i would like to see more of any high lv content besides devils and demons, even undead would be better

sirgog

10-24-2010, 11:26 PM

So signing on this one. We definitely need more dragons - how about where we have to outwit one - not strictly a melee type encounter?

Jules

Run Litany of the Dead if you want to have a non-melee encounter with a black dragon.

I was so disappointed that we don't get to fight that thing.

Martdon

10-24-2010, 11:30 PM

/signed

Raodin-bel-iori

10-25-2010, 01:24 PM

Yes! More dragons. We could also have some lower level type dragons for earlier in the game such as wyverns and pseudo dragons.

GBantaR

10-25-2010, 01:37 PM

Beholders evoke that feeling of 'rare and terrifying' in most D&D campaigns, moreso than dragons, IMO.

Yet if you wander through the Subterrane, you fight heaps and heaps of them.

Or if you were at the HElf event in Lamma-land. Ah, the memories. Good times.

hityawithastick

10-25-2010, 01:38 PM

/signed. If you need more signatures, all my alts will sign it too. :D

Belwaar

10-25-2010, 01:50 PM

/signed but don't give me a whimpy level 4 dragon.

I want my EPIC TOR!!!!

How about fight 4 dragons at once? (Oh, and for the record, Prey on Elite with both dragons is a bad ass fight!)

...a little sad that you can't make spectral dragon armor... :(

hityawithastick

10-25-2010, 03:35 PM

Let's have a quest with two dragons, plus the ghosts of two other dragons! That'll give ya that spectral armor =P

dragoninfernoblade

10-29-2010, 06:42 PM

/signed

shores11

10-29-2010, 07:00 PM

I like dragons and want to see more in game, and not just the evil ones. Not only more, I want to see more powerful ones, ones who actually use all the powers they possess not only a small percentage of them.

/rubs genie lamp

/signed

I have written in the past for the only major evil dragon left not in game the green dragon. One could argue for the yellow dragon but it is a minor dragon in D&D lore I believe. The green dragon is written about and in several quests and modules all through D&D lore and should be added.

Green Dragon
The green dragon reaks of chlorine. The green dragon is known as the trickster and ultimate evil dragon. He/she likes to verbally jab at his potential prey and talk in various riddles as kind of a foreplay to his/her meal. This would be a fantastic addition to DDO with the right story writer in a quest.

The green dragon is a liar and master of verbal evasion. Just talking to a green dragon can lead to ruin. When attacking, he will usually stalk his prey first, sometimes for days. The green dragon has a palette for elf flesh. He loves to play with his prey. He will subside on practically anything, including shrubs and small trees. He uses camoflauge to his advantage. He is obsessed with life and growth, and wants to live eternally. He is envious.

I would also like to see more dragon kind like:

> Wyverns
> Basilisk
> Cockatrice
> and more...

donfilibuster

10-29-2010, 07:50 PM

1. A flying dragon on a wilderness area, maybe green, that'd be cool.

2. You can fight dragons in 'mired in kobolds' (two black), 'gianthold tor' (three), 'prey on the hunter' (whites), and 'plane of night' (velah the red).

3. When they finally ad epic tor it'd surely be the new endgame.

4. Speaking about Cydonie, this might be the reason there's no pick pockets in ddo.
Imagine a young npc thief starting his career, there's guards in the bank and market but these folk near the fountain seem rich and lonely...

5. There's the argonessen in reaver's refuge.
Maybe if we get Thear to enlist the help of dragons of other colors we could have dragontouched armor other than blue?

Hecate100

10-29-2010, 07:52 PM

I would also like to see more dragon kind like:

> Wyverns
> Basilisk
> Cockatrice
> and more...

Yes!

xxHazexx

10-29-2010, 08:00 PM

./Signed.

shores11

10-29-2010, 09:19 PM

There be dragons (http://www.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=358027&ForumID=1703755&TabID=2998030&Replies=9&TopicID=9331142) out there.

Click on the dragons (http://www.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=358027&ForumID=1703755&TabID=2998030&Replies=9&TopicID=9331142) link for a nice layout of various dragons (http://www.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=358027&ForumID=1703755&TabID=2998030&Replies=9&TopicID=9331142).

justhavinfun

10-29-2010, 09:27 PM

Please, please, please. One of the highest acheiviments I can recall from the pnp game was the first time I was in a group that defeated an ancient red dragon.

azrael4h

10-29-2010, 11:55 PM

/Signed!

Well for those who are F2P it seems more like Dungeons and Kobolds. And I would love to see at least a couple Dragons to fight on F2P quests. Kinda unfair that only P2P characters can fight them or you have to save up to buy the Adventure Packs that contain them. It is a huge jip that the only F2P Dragon you see you can't even fight.

Mired in Kobolds. Play it. Enjoy it.

hityawithastick

11-01-2010, 02:06 PM

Ulgurstasta! :D

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/mm2_gallery/88268_620_160.jpg

systemstate

11-01-2010, 02:44 PM

Can we get a dracolich? If so... /signed.

dragoninfernoblade

11-08-2010, 11:40 AM

I've already sighned but id like there to be another spectral dragon(if there is i havent seen it only lvl 9 and f2p :D) like in the mabar festival

AZgreentea

11-08-2010, 11:43 AM

On the subject of more dragons, have you considered the possibility that there are lots of dragons in game in Human form? There are already places you can see certain dragons (Velah) in their human forms.

Therilith

11-08-2010, 12:11 PM

Dragons in Eberron are supposed to be sitting around on their own continent being mysterious and awesome, not sitting on a pile of gold in a cave waiting to be killed by adventurers. It's the reason I slightly dislike the end of Mired in Kobolds.

As long as the quests are properly epic, some more dragons would be fun. I'd just hate to see quests with dragons as mini bosses or -Khyber forbid- trash mobs. :eek:

Requiro

11-08-2010, 12:22 PM

Dragons in Eberron are supposed to be sitting around on their own continent being mysterious and awesome, not sitting on a pile of gold in a cave waiting to be killed by adventurers. It's the reason I slightly dislike the end of Mired in Kobolds.

As long as the quests are properly epic, some more dragons would be fun. I'd just hate to see quests with dragons as mini bosses or -Khyber forbid- trash mobs. :eek:

But Khortos story line is one of the best :) Mysterious, awesome (specially for beginners) and this snowy dragon is King of the Khortos.

I sign for proposal, but only if new Dragons will be really strong, challenging opponent. For example: End Boss for new 20 level Raid? ;)

dragonlo

11-08-2010, 12:35 PM

/signed

you wanna know what really sucked... no dragons were in game at release. took a monthe before we got velha in von 6. then no other dragons for like 2 1/2 yrs till gianthold. DDO was called dungeons and dragon online back then >.<

Requiro

11-08-2010, 12:49 PM

/signed

you wanna know what really sucked... no dragons were in game at release. took a monthe before we got velha in von 6. then no other dragons for like 2 1/2 yrs till gianthold. DDO was called dungeons and dragon online back then >.<

I'm not play from the beginning but this is so strange... What is the point to call themselves Dungeons and Dragon if there is no Dragon there? Now I understand why this game was in the edge of bankruptcy...