Breaking News… Zenit agree in principle to sell Arshavin to Arsenal…

Negotiations between FC «Zenit» and London «Arsenal» on the transfer of Andrei Arshavina continuing. Between the clubs reached agreement in principle to move the player on terms ustraivayuschih both sides and the actual market value of a football player.

At the moment, the main obstacle in the implementation of the deal were personal requirements Andrew Arshavina. The player and his agent asked the London club paid to guide «Arsenal» not ready to pay a football player and currently «Arsenal» agrees to comply with the requirements of the player only by reducing his transfer value.

In turn, Andrei Arshavin did not intend to go to reduce the demands on the personal contract, and thus hinders the negotiation process, calling into question all the agreements reached between the clubs.

FC «Zenit» waives its willingness to sell the player, and continues to negotiate, offering another way out of this situation. One possible option for reducing the transfer price Arshavina could be paid compensation for a player rastorgnuty 4-year contract. As in 2006, when signing a contract with FC «Zenit» at the request of the player he was paid one-subscription payment for long-term rate of 5 million euros, in the early termination of the contract Andrei Arshavin can return the club half the amount (2.5 million euros) and it will be credited to the player’s transfer value.

< ![CDATA[If only I knew what 'ustraivayuschih' and 'rastorgnuty' meant.

Reading this bit seems like Zenit are putting the blame on Arshavin for the delay in completing the deal. Although I remember that initially when all this Arshavin talk started, it was reported that his wage demands might be too high for Arsenal. But it hasn't been talked about since. All we've heard is Zenit are asking too much money. Hard to determine what the exact issue is.]]>

zohaib

SkySports is also reporting that Zenit and Arsenal have agreed a fee.

zohaib

They say that Zenit claim to have agreed a fee. And Zenit claim that Arsenal are struggling to agree personal terms with the player.

Cappz

That is true – Zenit have agreed a fee – but Arshavin isn’t happy with £80,000 per week.

zohaib

< ![CDATA["The fundamental understanding over the transfer of the player is achieved between the clubs," read a statement on Zenit's official website.

"At the moment the basic obstacle in realisation of the transaction is Andrei Arshavin's personal requirements."]]>

zohaib

SkySports says Zenit haven’t released the bid Arsenal have made but they say that it was ‘the real market value’. I wonder how much we bid. Anyone know ? Cappz ? How do you know we’re going to pay him 80k per week ?

Cappz

Insider sources.

zohaib

So you’d know how much we’ve bid for him. The one that’s been accepted.

Fabrez

Hmm…interesting development! Finally an agreement & now the prob is personal terms? *sigh* If it’s not 1 thing it’s another…well I’m guessing the hard part is over… hopefully…

Berth

Arshavin!!!, best news of the transfer window so for.

Tom G

Hope you’re right Fabrez but can’t help feeling that Arshavin’s wage demands may have been the problem all along – all that stuff about trying to find a way round it, we want to cut the fee so we can afford his wages.. makes me think we don’t need him – and Rosicky, Walcott, Eduardo, Fab coming back.. Merse is right on the Sky website when he says we don’t need more flair.. don’t get me wrong, Arshavin is class, but at what price? and we need a DM don’t we???

Tom G

..plus there’s vela who can’t seem to get a game, even wilshere coming through.. and nasri..

Berth

Tom G, You and Merson are way off this one. How can you say we have flair, How consistent and matured is Walcot . And whats wrong havn Arshavin , nasiri, Walcot and Rosicky fighting for places in the team – is that not what we call quality?

zohaib

< ![CDATA[I think Merson and Tom G have a valid point. I don't think Arshavin coming will help us become more stable, because it won't do us any good defensively. And our defense is very weak. Only our fullbacks are exceptional. But I'm all for having more quality players. The problem seemed to be finances, and financially we can only get better. So finally, thankfully we're spending big on quality player(s).

The question, if Arshavin comes, is who do we leave out from Nasri, Rosicky, Walcott, Arshavin, Eboue, Bendtner, Vela, and Wilshere. I'm all for Eboue and Bendtner (to not be selected for the wide positions). That leaves us with 3 LM players in Nasri, Arshavin and Rosicky and one make-shift RM. We have another RM in Bichoff but who knows whether he'll be involved in the first team this season. We don't seem to have many natural RMs. And also, when and in what position do Wilshere and Vela get games ?]]>

jeffvip

< ![CDATA[I thought Arsenal is a big club. In other words, big boys means we have a quality back-up player all the time. Look at Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Real Madrid... isn't their player will have to fight for a place in the 1st team.

i perfectly agree that Arshavin is what we need...]]>

Debs

One more player definitely never hurts! We’ve always been criticised of not having strength in depth, and really, competition for places will make the players give 100% thereabouts whenever they play. But still, sorting out our defensive issues is still a priority, and it would be a job half done if we only got Arshavin.

zohaib

< ![CDATA[jeffvip - In case you haven't figured it out yet, at Arsenal we have quality starters but when it comes to backup players we rely on kids from the youth/reserves.

If he did get Arshavin, what'll Wenger's excuse be for not playing Vela or Wilshere ? I thought he didn't want to block their progress. As it is Vela can't seem to get games.]]>

ibrahim

waw.he is comingbut the future striker will be sended of .bentner you are fired

ibrahim

we need him to keep[ pour champions league hope in the right way

http://kierandelaney.net/blog kierandelaney.net/blog

< ![CDATA[I actually am questioning the move to be honest. Blogged about it this morning, here's an excerpt.

Arshavin is 27 and this is likely to be his last high profile move, so I understand he needs to make the right decision. But there don’t appear to be a string of clubs fighting over him, apart from Spurs (:D) last summer and Barca before them (who now have Hleb) no other club has really made any kind of concrete offer – you just know Zenit would be taking out full page newspaper ad’s if they had.

So trying to keep his options open seems a bit odd – he’s got two options, stay at Zenit or come to Arsenal. Easy.

Financially trying to hold Arsene Wenger to ransom is probably akin to squeezing cash out of a stone. A small dry stone buried in a concrete vault.

Much aside from the fact (cue fan bashing) that we don’t actually need him. Where would he play.. in place of Nasri, our most creative player in recent weeks? Alongside Fabregas – I can’t see that working, it would stifle Fabregas as he would be forever tracking back and playing as a defensive midfielder (not the little Spaniard’s ideal position). On the right wing… maybe. But then wouldn’t you prefer electric pace on the wings like Walcott?

What Arsenal need is a Defensive Midfielder to sit alongside Cesc. Like Flamini last season, Cesc needs to sit next to a proper tackler so that he can be creative and move forwards.

So whilst Arshavin could solve a few problems in the short term whilst Theo and Fabregas are injured, he’ll provide more of a headache when they return from injury. Compound that by Rosicky’s eventual return (2019?), copuled with emerging talents like Wilshire/Vela and our “lightweight midfield” starts to look a bit congested – and we still don’t have a proper defensive midfielder.]]>

Gooner Get Ya

< ![CDATA[Kieran I understand what you are saying but surely buyuing him would benefit the squad not the team. How good would it be to have the choice of Cesc, Walcott, Rosicky, Nasri, Diaby, Denilison, Song, Ramsey, Eboue, Wilshire & Arshavin.

So for him to suddenly back hand both of these... for Arshavin? It isn't making sense to me. It would be reasonable for him to do this for say Yaya Toure or someone who would be one of the first names on the team sheet.

Why some of you are claiming we are finally going for big players, i don't know. Arshavin is pretty unproven in actual fact. Your getting caught up in the hype i think.]]>

To be honest i think Eboue and maybe even Diaby will be cast adrift in Summer. I think they are the weakest of the bunch]]>

Tom G

Dan you’re right it’s all a bit strange. I agree with you and Kieran, but on the other hand something does tell me Arshavin as a player would be a good buy. I guess it’s a gamble. The problem might be these wage demands – because if he doesn’t fit into the Arsenal ethos as you set it out Dan then I just can’t see it working out. If he got his head down as a good squad member, and helped the youngsters, and really wanted to be here for the club, then we’d welcome him with open arms, wouldn’t we? Debs is right – if he’s quality, and he does look amazing, why not? But we don’t need anyone rocking the boat right now..

Gooner Get Ya

< ![CDATA[Dan, how is buying quality experience blocking the development of our youth...surely our younger players will learn and develop better with these older mentors? plus with a bigger squad we can disperse of the unwanted mediocre talents (Eboue + Diaby) and keep only the best.

As for the over payed....this is why Arshavin has not been bought yet as we are not willing to pay what he wants.]]>

Dan

< ![CDATA[I would put Arshavin in the Quality Experienced bracket personally. For me he is another player we will need to nurture somewhat to bring him up to the standards of the premier league, which is way above his current league in every aspect. Just because he is 27 does not mean he is the finished article.

Gooner Get Ya - if you want Wilshere's role model to be one who seemingly lacks loyalty, and is far more worried about his wallet than the club he plays for, then Arshavin is your man, sure.

If the £80k a week figure mentioned earlier is correct, and he isn't happy with it... well he can stick it as far as i'm concerned.]]>

< ![CDATA[Am really ashamed this transfer is taking longer. We haven't got the guy yet and people have already started criticizing someone who hasn't even played.

Lets sign him first and lets see what he can offer before we go against the signing. Some weeks ago Arsenal fans were really excited we were landing our man, all of a sudden as the plan starts coming to reality guys start loosing hope. Fans are really difficult to convince, now I Know.]]>

http://kierandelaney.net/blog kierandelaney.net/blog

< ![CDATA[Don't get me wrong, he'd be exciting enough, but a squad player? For 80k?

The thing is, we've covered before, it is unrealistic to have anymore than 11 big names in a squad. Because anymore than 11 means you have a big name on the bench. A big name on the bench (Tevez, Drogba) gets restless and leaves, but not before upsetting the balance of the squad. Even Toure recently put in a transfer request because he was on the bench a few times - Diarra was still a virtual unkown and he left for 1st team action.

This doesn't mean you can't have a decent squad, but you can't have £15m+ players warming the bench either.

The more I think about this the more worried I get.]]>

Fabrez

< ![CDATA[Wow...lots going on eh? Arshavin...well if he comes, we will have a congested midfield indeed (with every1 fit). But if we do get him, as was earlier mentioned, Eboue/Diaby will have to go to be honest. But the issue with Arshavin is that he SOOO badly wants to leave, why the hell not take £80k? Well as Dan said... he can stay with Zenit to be honest...we don't want money-hungry players at Arsenal...forget it. We want players who want to play for the club even if it means taking a little pay-cut. We run the club a certain way and he has to accept that if he oh so badly wants to leave the prison that is Zenit. But apparantly bcuz of the complications of the deal he has to pay something back to Zenit i've read...but that's his business... he's the 1 that so badly wants to leave. Andrei is making this more complicated than it shud b and being after more money than he is offered is turning his potential fans away from him a bit (like myself). If he doesn't come, he doesn't come...that's the attitude i have. His arrival seems to be confusing things more than helping...granted the guy's obvious quality...i'd like 2 have him come...i'm not sure about him now...so many issues coming up. And with players coming back, in today's football world sum1 or a couple players we want to keep will leave. To me, the ideal situation is Eboue and Diaby leaving...a LOYAL and NOT money-hungry Arshavin coming in...along with a DM coming in.
But WAIT...Veloso to Bolton?!?! We NEED to get him then...isn't he a DM? Granted i heard he doesn't want to leave & Lisbon don't want to sell...but surely we can beat Bolton to his signature?! AW wanted him b4...]]>

Debs

Guys, I think Berth’s right actually. There’s not much we can do if the transfer goes thru, and we’ll just have to wait and see what happens. Wenger gets it right most of the time and we’ll just have to hope he does so too this time around. No point worrying about it now, when the deal’s not even done.

zohaib

< ![CDATA[If we do manage to get Arshavin, I think he'll play LM, while Nasri moves to Cesc's position until he returns. And when Cesc and Rosicky do return, then it'll be a bit of a selection headache.

I think a DM is more of a priority than Arshavin. But if we get a DM, where and when do Song, Denilson, Diaby and Ramsey get games ?]]>

zohaib

Bolton’s in for 12 mil pounds Veloso. Why don’t we get him ? We could pay 12 mil pounds. He’s a pretty good DM. Why aren’t we in ? Will Sporting Lisbon not sell to Arsenal because of their partnership with ManUtd ?

Debs

I heard somewhere that he’d be willing to take a pay cut to come here, and somewhere else that he wants more money- Not sure which’s true so I’ll just ignore it. Also, I know for a FACT that if Arshavin’s punching above his weight about money, Wenger’s not going to bother, so I’m guessing if the deal goes thru, it probably means Arshavin’s not a money-grabber! Don’t know if my logic makes any sense! lol

Fabrez

Could be that partnership Zohaib, could be…that is messed up tho. Regardless…we need to at least put a bid in… Money talks…hopefully? And as for Song, Denilson, Ramsey & others…if means they r gonna have to fight for the place…i say they are young so they can w8 a bit…but AW makes this promise of young players getting a chance…well young players have to fight too… Maybe we will need to rotate a bit? But obviously we will want all these players to stay but 1 or 2 will want to leave…so it’s a tough call for sure… And yeah Debs…i get ur point… in fairness…we gotta wait n see at the end of the day.

Fabrez

A side point…no Kenwyne Jones for Sp*rs! Gr8 development! lol

Debs

Wenger might actually be in for Veloso, but well, he won’t let us know, as usual!

ray

denilson is statisitcally speaking our best player for this season.idiots have even blamed him for cesc’s poor season ( shows a lack of football knowledge). what are the differnces between our team now and the invincibles?. ok, the invincibles season we won 26 games drew 12 scored 73 and coneeded 26. we won with 90 points. the differnce between 1st and second place was 11 points. and 1st and fourth was 30!. that shows a massive gap. last season manchester united won with 87 points. the gap between them and second place was 2 points. and the gap between them and 4th was 11 points. in the invincible season are goals for per game was 1.9 and against was 1.4. last season was better with the same goals for at 1.9 but the against was even lower then the invincible season at 0.8 goals conceeded per game. ( and people complain about our defence). so no less then 4 seasons after the invincbles ( all trophy less) the differnce isnt that great on paper. the real obvious problem is our competition have gotten better and better. 83 points secured second place for 04/05 season and 05/07 but last season that only got you 3rd. this season we have averaged 1.6 goals a game (0.3 differnce to invincible season) and goals against is 1.09 (a diffence of 0.31 goals conceeded better then the invincible season). so there it tells you our defence is the same or better then the invincible season. our attack isnt quite as potent ( only slightly). so can we lay off denilson ? can we stop blaming him?. can we stop going on about the need for a dm when i have made it quiet obvious we dont need 1. its amazing just how compettive and tight it is in the premier league from today since the invincibles. i didnt realise just how significant this factor was.

Fabrez

Yup! Arshavin might just be the smoke-screen for such a move!

Fabrez

Hmm…scrap Veloso…Man City want him apparantly… :-S

zohaib

< ![CDATA[ray - There's still no excuse for our rubbish performances over the past three and a half years. While other teams have got better and better, we haven't really got better. We should have. So, good work with the stats but that's still no justification for us, Arsenal, who were at one stage competing only with ManUtd to win titles, and now are in danger of not finishing in the champions league positions.

Denilson's had a good season. He's had the most appearances along with Almunia this season. He's been fit, while others have not, so that's partly the reason. He's played some good games. But nothing spectacular. And that's because the whole team as a unit hasn't been consistently good. It's either a few getting injured and breaking up the partnerships forming or putting in poor performances to loose their place.

The one area where we urgently need to do something is with injuries. We've been a joke over the past couple of years. It's always important first-teamers out injured for long periods of time. And usually more than one at a time. That's pretty ridiculous. Something isn't right and it needs fixing right away. I'll stop complaining about our youngsters being too inexperienced if we can just stop injuries from happening.]]>

Gooner Get Ya

< ![CDATA[Dan - How can you question the guys loyality? Arshavin has been with Zenit since 2000 when he was 19. This could be his last move so he is going to try and get the best deal for him...as anyone would. We all know the wage structure will not be negotiated so he will take it or leave it.

As for the DM position...Veloso would be a good buy for us. Haven't Man City bought Kompany for the DM position?]]>

Gooner Get Ya

* loyalty *

zohaib

< ![CDATA[12.40 Bolton target Miguel Veloso would consider leaving Sporting Lisbon but Wanderers are likely to face competition from a number of other clubs, according to the player's agent.

This was on SkySports' website in the Transfer Clockwatch section.]]>

zohaib

Gooner Get Ya – I completely agree with you. ManCity don’t need Veloso. They’ve got Kompany and they’ve only just signed Nigel De Jong. They don’t need more DMs. They’ve also got Hamann who’s injured. It’s just rubbish rumors to increase his price because when you’re linked with ManCity your price rises 300%.

Fabrez

Guess that means we could be 1 if his agent is speaking truthfully…

Fabrez

I thought the same thing at the back of my mind Zohaib… Trust me, Man City r gonna be linked with every player according to agents and clubs when it comes to transfers…obvious price inflation technique.

Stanley

I agree we have a lot of mediocre players in the squad right now but Diaby isnt one of them,….. He only needs to work on his temperament, he is a real quality player…. we need a Marcus Senna in the squad as well as 2 central defenders in the makeup of Rio ferdinand and Vidic but apparently we dont go for such big names by principle…. so lets just buy Arshavin and hope it pays off

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