Do Atheists Hate Gays? - Atheist Nexus2016-12-10T02:20:03Zhttp://atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/do-atheists-hate-gays-1?commentId=2182797%3AComment%3A445256&feed=yes&xn_auth=noDear Angry Heretic:
You assum…tag:atheistnexus.org,2009-08-05:2182797:Comment:4478832009-08-05T20:31:48.609ZAlex dePalmhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/AlexdePalm
Dear Angry Heretic:<br />
You assume incorrectly that a politically-sensitive issue is “insulting to atheists.” Given the number of intelligent and articulate responses it would appear that you were the only one offended. Perhaps you should be more open-minded with questions that make you uncomfortable, you might learn something. Moreover, a person with any appreciable intellect does not assume that all members of any group agree on all issues.<br />
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News Flash: Headlines are supposed to grab the…
Dear Angry Heretic:<br />
You assume incorrectly that a politically-sensitive issue is “insulting to atheists.” Given the number of intelligent and articulate responses it would appear that you were the only one offended. Perhaps you should be more open-minded with questions that make you uncomfortable, you might learn something. Moreover, a person with any appreciable intellect does not assume that all members of any group agree on all issues.<br />
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News Flash: Headlines are supposed to grab the attention of the reader (duh), and as such make no assumptions. We-the atheist community-can learn a lot from Fox News, not the actual ‘news’ of course, but their marketing is painfully successful.<br />
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And one final thing: “Don't you EVER use that tone of voice with me, missy. WHO DO YOU THINK YOU'RE TALKING TO? I'll tell you what you're gonna do, you're gonna MARCH yourself UPSTAIRS to your room and you will STAY THERE until I tell you to come out!” I have posted the verdict con…tag:atheistnexus.org,2009-08-05:2182797:Comment:4476652009-08-05T17:57:16.112ZRichard Hayneshttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/admin
I have posted the verdict concerning Charlie Here: <a href="http://atheistnexus.org/profiles/blog/show?id=2182797:BlogPost:445076&amp;page=8#comment-2182797_Comment_447663">http://atheistnexus.org/profiles/blog/show?id=2182797:BlogPost:445076&amp;page=8#comment-2182797_Comment_447663</a><br />
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Thanks to you all for your comments and suggestions.
I have posted the verdict concerning Charlie Here: <a href="http://atheistnexus.org/profiles/blog/show?id=2182797:BlogPost:445076&amp;page=8#comment-2182797_Comment_447663">http://atheistnexus.org/profiles/blog/show?id=2182797:BlogPost:445076&amp;page=8#comment-2182797_Comment_447663</a><br />
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Thanks to you all for your comments and suggestions. I agree with this statement.tag:atheistnexus.org,2009-08-05:2182797:Comment:4475602009-08-05T16:49:36.428ZJohn Secular Smithhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/JohnSecularSmith
I agree with this statement.
I agree with this statement. I have to say, that I'm a lit…tag:atheistnexus.org,2009-08-05:2182797:Comment:4475562009-08-05T16:48:25.756ZJohn Secular Smithhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/JohnSecularSmith
I have to say, that I'm a little ashamed on this issue. I didn't realize how big of a deal it was until I got engaged to a woman of another race (I'm white, she's black). Looking into the history I realized that IN MY LIFETIME that their were still laws on the books of some states saying we couldn't marry for all the same idiotic reasons given against gay people.<br />
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Be assured that when/if it comes to a vote where I'm at, I'm voting for your freedoms.
I have to say, that I'm a little ashamed on this issue. I didn't realize how big of a deal it was until I got engaged to a woman of another race (I'm white, she's black). Looking into the history I realized that IN MY LIFETIME that their were still laws on the books of some states saying we couldn't marry for all the same idiotic reasons given against gay people.<br />
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Be assured that when/if it comes to a vote where I'm at, I'm voting for your freedoms. My uncle's opposition to gay…tag:atheistnexus.org,2009-08-05:2182797:Comment:4469432009-08-05T07:30:41.236ZLarissaFaehttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/LarissaFae
My uncle's opposition to gay marriage is that only opposite-sex pairings produce children, and that the whole institute of marriage was created to provide a stable family. Even with infertile couples, he still thinks they should be able to get married because they "fit" together as nature intended the majority to do. He also throws in that kids need role models of both genders. Even with couples who don't want kids, there's a small chance of an accident happening. I pointed out that not every…
My uncle's opposition to gay marriage is that only opposite-sex pairings produce children, and that the whole institute of marriage was created to provide a stable family. Even with infertile couples, he still thinks they should be able to get married because they "fit" together as nature intended the majority to do. He also throws in that kids need role models of both genders. Even with couples who don't want kids, there's a small chance of an accident happening. I pointed out that not every opposite-sex couple has kids, and he said that they were a minority, thus easily included into the majority's marriage-for-kids rights.<br />
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He claims that homosexuality occurs largely because of an excess of oestrogen whilst in utero. That may or may not be true, but he's still saying that it's not natural, that it's a defect that can be corrected through testosterone treatments. He compared it to having a kid with Down's Syndrome and being given the opportunity to give the kid some in utero therapy that would cure the Down's Syndrome. I said that that was a crap argument, since Down's Syndrome is a quality of life issue, and other than the threat of having your head bashed in at Ft. Bragg, homosexuality has no ill-effects on homosexuals.<br />
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He brought up that the line had to be drawn somewhere; first it's heterosexual, non-incestuous marriage. Then it's gay marriage. Then it's incestuous marriage, where two relatives want to raise a child together, therefore they get married in order to get all the financial breaks of raising a child. Then it's people marrying their pets.<br />
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I pointed out that bestiality is animal abuse, that animals can't have the same sort of relationships with humans that humans seek out in life partners. He said that there are animals who will go up to a human woman and try to mate with her, and that animals COULD have the same sort of relationships with humans that humans seek out in life partners.<br />
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Then he went off on a tangent about women raising wimpy boys. I understand that children emulate their parents, so a child raised by only one would tend to emulate them, regardless of gender, but I also think he's pissed that Dad ended up more traditionally masculine than he did. No drop bears?tag:atheistnexus.org,2009-08-05:2182797:Comment:4469212009-08-05T06:59:04.736ZLittle Name Atheisthttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Little_Name_Atheist
No drop bears?
No drop bears? Oh you gay girls, always tryi…tag:atheistnexus.org,2009-08-05:2182797:Comment:4469162009-08-05T06:49:52.852ZChrys Stevensonhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/KristyVensson
Oh you gay girls, always trying to recruit us straight ones. ;-) Larissa, you're welcome to pitch a tent in our yard, if you don't mind the bandicoots, snakes and goannas that live there.
Oh you gay girls, always trying to recruit us straight ones. ;-) Larissa, you're welcome to pitch a tent in our yard, if you don't mind the bandicoots, snakes and goannas that live there. Like I've said before I'm pro…tag:atheistnexus.org,2009-08-05:2182797:Comment:4468162009-08-05T04:48:56.164ZMichaelhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Michael390
Like I've said before I'm pro - None of my damn buisiness. Just because I can have an opinion dosn't mean I should or do.<br />
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Plus the neat thing about Atheism-- you don't have to believe anything. To say something is incompatable with Atheism would be saying their are purely "Atheist" values and standards. If you don't believe in a god it dosn't mean you have to be a nice guy/gal you can be a racist bigoted asshole. The only difference is your the asshole not god, because your only jstification…
Like I've said before I'm pro - None of my damn buisiness. Just because I can have an opinion dosn't mean I should or do.<br />
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Plus the neat thing about Atheism-- you don't have to believe anything. To say something is incompatable with Atheism would be saying their are purely "Atheist" values and standards. If you don't believe in a god it dosn't mean you have to be a nice guy/gal you can be a racist bigoted asshole. The only difference is your the asshole not god, because your only jstification is your own rational. For us to talk like that is for us to start talking like them. Last I checked we didn't have a dogma, unless I missed that day. The real question is how many…tag:atheistnexus.org,2009-08-05:2182797:Comment:4468042009-08-05T04:39:48.018ZMichaelhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Michael390
The real question is how many atheist support gay marraige only because they think it will piss off theists.
The real question is how many atheist support gay marraige only because they think it will piss off theists. US marriage laws grant hundre…tag:atheistnexus.org,2009-08-05:2182797:Comment:4467842009-08-05T04:23:21.194ZDaniel Wachenheimhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Daniel57
US marriage laws grant hundreds of rights, priviledges, and responsiblities to married heterosexuals. In civil partnerships, there are generally fewer advantages than marriage, in some cases many, many fewer. I would be fine with someone arguing that "Marriage" is a religious process, and that the government can only grant civil partnerships, whether to same or opposite sex couples. But as long as we have one set of rules for one category of people, and another to the other category, it's not…
US marriage laws grant hundreds of rights, priviledges, and responsiblities to married heterosexuals. In civil partnerships, there are generally fewer advantages than marriage, in some cases many, many fewer. I would be fine with someone arguing that "Marriage" is a religious process, and that the government can only grant civil partnerships, whether to same or opposite sex couples. But as long as we have one set of rules for one category of people, and another to the other category, it's not equal. It's the government, and the people, passing judgement on same-sex couples.