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Afghan sex practices concern U.S., British forces

A document released by WikiLeaks described efforts by high-ranking Afghan officials to quash reports of police officers and other Afghans arrested for “purchasing a service from a child.” The leaked diplomatic cable quoted former Minister of the Interior Hanif Atmar’s concern that publicity about the arrests, which involved the hiring of “dancing boys,” would “endanger lives.”

Well this is certainly an interesting story. My guess is that Wiki-Leaks creeper Julian Assange won’t be getting invited to the White House after this revelation. On the day our President and Congress play social engineer with our military, we get a story that gives us an inside look at the reality on the front lines. We have been re-assured over and over that their politically motivated repeal of the Clinton administrations “Don’t ask, don’t tell policy” is just peachy, loved by all the troops and will not cause a moments disruption in front line units. Uh huh. Anybody want to buy a bridge?

The vast gulf between U.S. and Afghan attitudes about homosexuality and pedophilia has generated concern among U.S. advisers in Afghanistan since the American presence there began to expand.

Now remember it was a big scandal when US forces allowed women to be deployed in Muslim countries during the Gulf War. Many offered this as an example of the US offending Muslim sensitivities and theorized that it would create more friction with those countries that were working with us. It also creates hostility because it is in direct conflict with Muslim cultural norms. Remember all this? I do. But the US military took a hard-line and demanded that women be allowed in.

Now wait until we tell them not only are we bringing women, we are bringing openly gay troops too. Liberals want us to take a hard-line dealing with the intolerance of Muslims when it comes to these issues while at the same time encouraging them to Build Mosques at Ground Zero. This is so insane that it defies rational thought. Can you imagine the aggravation this will cause for the front line commanders? Unit cohesion and morale will evaporate.

In late 2009, U.S. and British forces ordered a study of Pashtun male sexuality. They were worried that homosexuality and pedophilia among Afghan security forces and tribes could create cultural misunderstanding with allied troops, according to a copy of the report obtained by The Washington Examiner.

The study, requested by 2nd Marine Expeditionary Battalion along with British forces in Lashkar Gah, was conducted by members of one of the Defense Department’s Human Terrain Teams stationed in Afghanistan. The report was authored by team member Anna Maria Cardinalli, who said the goal was to learn how to advise “U.S. and British service members who report encounters with men displaying apparently homosexual tendencies. These service members are frequently confused [by] this behavior.”

The report described unease by U.S. Marines and British soldiers who felt they were being propositioned, or who were outraged by apparent acts of pedophilia by Afghan soldiers and police. It documented one case in which 12 of 20 Pashtun interpreters working with one U.S. Army unit had contracted gonorrhea from homosexual encounters.

Troops interviewed by The Examiner say they are frequently forced to deal with a radically different attitude toward sex with male youths by Afghan security forces.

“I know Marines and soldiers who have refused to work with Afghan military or police,” said one U.S. military official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. “It’s not about homosexuality as much as it is about the young boys. Some of them like to show pictures on their cell phone — that should be illegal. Some of the Afghans have their own young boys they use for sexual purposes and we can’t do anything about it.”

What could POSSIBLY go wrong by ending DADT??? This next part sums up the folly of ending DADT:

“To dismiss the existence of this dynamic out of desire to avoid Western discomfort is to risk failing to comprehend an essential social force underlying Pashtun culture which can potentially affect the success” of the U.S. effort there, Cardinalli wrote in the report. An American military official who works closely with Afghan security forces called the discomfort among U.S. and British troops “the elephant in the closet that no one’s talking about, but needs to.”

So despite all the touchy-feely rhetoric, combat soldiers are outwardly uncomfortable with homosexuality. Failure to understand this cultural aspect of American men is akin to looking at a hand grenade with its pin pulled out and telling yourself it won’t explode. Remember that we were told that allowing women into the ranks would be just as smooth. Yet thousands of sexual harassment complaints are lodged every year causing unnecessary diversion form the military mission (remember there’s a mission?). What will we do when the sexual harassment complaints are homosexual in nature? Keep kidding yourself if you think this will be anything but a problem.

Look- at the end of the day this really has less to do with how gay anyone is or isn’t. It is about lifestyles that are incompatible with military service. DATD was effective because it allowed gays to serve without causing overt disruption to order and discipline. Remember we are already asking our soldiers to go out and KILL other human beings in the most graphic and brutal ways imaginable DESPITE everything they have been taught since childhood. We ask them to endure all the hardships that go with it. We ask them to put aside their long-held religious and social beliefs in order to accomplish that mission, the security of our nation. Now we are asking them to consort with people who openly flaunt a lot of those beliefs while doing it. MANY will have a problem with this. There is simply no reason for this policy to be overturned especially at this time.

Once again RINO republicans have abandoned party principles in order to accommodate the lunatic left. The purge must continue.

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Did I mention that I served in combat arms? I’m quite sure since most heterosexual men are completely comfortable with their three or four gay drinking buddies that this new policy will be greeted with great enthusiasm.

What is not being taken seriously by the messiah and his crew of social engineers is that the Army and Marine Corps have expressed serious concerns with this policy. Do your own homework.

Let me get this right, our boys are offended by the Afghans sexual practices? Wow. And all this time I thought it was just ugly Americans that always piss people off.

It appears that the troops have a problem with pedophiles not homosexuals. Big difference. Child molesters are vermin that should be irradiated regardless of whether they are preying on boys or girls. What two consenting Adults do is way different. Kind of like dealing with priests. If they stray from their vows with an adult that is for the church to deal with. If they exploit children they should be dealt with by the prison system or noose whichever works.

The part about the translators getting gonorrhea cracked me up. We all know that no US sailors or soldiers ever got that in the Philippines or Thailand.

What you are glossing over is that 90% of the time our troops are not on a battlefield, rather in garrison where living conditions are often like dorm rooms. There is also an attitude and culture among combat soldiers, because of their mission and duties that frowns on this lifestyle. It reflects American values down the line. Now we are forcing values on them that most are not prepared to accept, plain and simple in an environment where they can’t remove themselves.
Do you seriously think putting heterosexual men and gay men together in such close quarters is NOT going to create problems? Come on. This is a country where race relations are at an all time low after years of civil rights legislation and social engineering.
I would say that a policy change this sweeping should allow anyone who so desires it an immediate discharge. If our leaders are so convinced that they have such widespread support among the rank and file then losses should be minimal. Right? Hence nothing to fear.

You are wrong. The difference is now they can act openly gay with no fear of punishment. It will now be almost impossible for gay troops to be disciplned. All they will have to do now is claim they are being harrassed or disciplined BECAUSE they are gay. Mark my words.

No one ever cared to ask if someone was gay and there were few issues. Now gays feel obligated to tell everyone they are gay. No one was asking because no one cared. Gay people now feel as if they need to display their sexual preference where no one wants to know about it. You tell me who has the problem.

I just realized that I said irradiated when I meant eradicated. Oh well whatever works.
I don’t think it is going to be a big problem and I don’t think there are going to be a bunch of guys acting super gay in front of a bunch of their bunkmates. If it does become a problem that affects our ability to protect the country then we should put DADT back in place. But I think it is the right thing to do just like it was to have blacks integrate in the military.

I have friends who are reservists and are frequently deployed to the middle east. We have discussed what they see there. The dirty secret is that despite all their faux morality, homosexuality is rampant in the Islamic world. It goes hand and hand with their incredible repression and abuse of women and sexual abuse of minors. Child brides and sexual abuse of young boys are common practices there that are strictly taboo in our culture. Outright homosexuality is forbidden in Islam. Iran EXECUTES homosexuals but looks the other way when it comes to young boys.
You can’t tell me that these policies aren’t going to cause problems.

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