Now that Health Care has passed the Senate - over 65's being tossed out of hospitals ... - Atheist Nexus2016-12-09T14:46:14Zhttp://atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/now-that-health-care-has?commentId=2182797%3AComment%3A771970&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=no"What seems very interesting…tag:atheistnexus.org,2010-04-19:2182797:Comment:7979612010-04-19T20:45:21.380ZJoeyhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Joey74
"What seems very interesting to me is that the teabaggers seem such a mix of citizens: political independents, grassroot conservative activists, high school drop-outs, and angry white guys"<br />
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The important thing to remember is they're being bankrolled by the Koch brothers and other scum sucking degenerates we should have thrown into a deep hole a long time ago. Those are the people that pay for the buses, printing costs, advertising, and PA systems. The common link between the average teabagger…
"What seems very interesting to me is that the teabaggers seem such a mix of citizens: political independents, grassroot conservative activists, high school drop-outs, and angry white guys"<br />
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The important thing to remember is they're being bankrolled by the Koch brothers and other scum sucking degenerates we should have thrown into a deep hole a long time ago. Those are the people that pay for the buses, printing costs, advertising, and PA systems. The common link between the average teabagger is flaming stupidity and an almost religious hatred of independent thought. They're incapable of arguing in anything but talking points. That's why they're passionate about Palin: She's as ignorant and credulous as they are. They think she's the kind of gal they can have a beer with.<br />
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The entire exercise is an attempt to move the Overton window so far to the right that even talking about taxing corporations becomes taboo. That's why a bagger rally of 200 people gets more coverage (and much more favorable coverage) than anti-war rallies that numbered in the tens of thousands. I actually have a name for it…tag:atheistnexus.org,2010-04-19:2182797:Comment:7979262010-04-19T20:26:33.125ZCaperton Millerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/CapertonMiller
I actually have a name for it. It's "Misinfortainment". ;)
I actually have a name for it. It's "Misinfortainment". ;) These people are ignorant bec…tag:atheistnexus.org,2010-03-30:2182797:Comment:7761162010-03-30T23:29:20.229Zmojo5501http://atheistnexus.org/profile/mojo5501
<i>These people are ignorant because they are being lied to.</i><br />
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Our democratic republic depends on a well informed electorate. It worries me that so many people limit their news to one or two sources of "news journalism". A gradual "dumbing down" of our population is causing a lot of people to just run with the most alarmist message they hear...without confirming the source of the information. So much of what passes as news is either condensed down to the sound bite form or is basically…
<i>These people are ignorant because they are being lied to.</i><br />
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Our democratic republic depends on a well informed electorate. It worries me that so many people limit their news to one or two sources of "news journalism". A gradual "dumbing down" of our population is causing a lot of people to just run with the most alarmist message they hear...without confirming the source of the information. So much of what passes as news is either condensed down to the sound bite form or is basically entertainment...info-tainment. Here's the thing with the Tea…tag:atheistnexus.org,2010-03-30:2182797:Comment:7754342010-03-30T04:32:25.635ZCaperton Millerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/CapertonMiller
Here's the thing with the Teabaggers. My brother is one and arguing with him is like shouting at a storm cloud. It just keeps coming. It doesn't fucking care. If the facts don't line up with their talking points, the call them lies. If conservatives call out the baggers for these same lies, the baggers say that their not "real conservatives". (See David Frum.)<br />
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But here's the big thing about them, and Fox News, and Limbaugh radio, et. al. They actually ARE having an effect on the electorate. So…
Here's the thing with the Teabaggers. My brother is one and arguing with him is like shouting at a storm cloud. It just keeps coming. It doesn't fucking care. If the facts don't line up with their talking points, the call them lies. If conservatives call out the baggers for these same lies, the baggers say that their not "real conservatives". (See David Frum.)<br />
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But here's the big thing about them, and Fox News, and Limbaugh radio, et. al. They actually ARE having an effect on the electorate. So when polls come out saying people are against healthcare, how come no one on CNN or even MSNBC says simply, "yeah, their against it because they've been LIED TOO for the past year.<br />
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Period. These people are ignorant because they are being lied to. It's not unlike religion itself. It is lies, and people are gullible.<br />
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Politically they're gonna' cherry pick one case where someone loses their healthcare, or their premium goes up even AFTER Obamacare, and then they'll hammer this outlier story over and over. They'll be a tour with Palin and a show with Joe the Plumber. On and on. And how much of the federal d…tag:atheistnexus.org,2010-03-30:2182797:Comment:7751932010-03-30T01:46:43.059Zmojo5501http://atheistnexus.org/profile/mojo5501
And how much of the federal deficit is directly linked to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? President Bush sure didn't seem to set money aside for those "government expenditures", did he? President Obama has inherited THAT cost. It seems to me that financing the wars by writing open ended checks wasn't exactly fiscally conservative!<br />
And when the troops come home...THEY will need health care....a lot of it, I bet.
And how much of the federal deficit is directly linked to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? President Bush sure didn't seem to set money aside for those "government expenditures", did he? President Obama has inherited THAT cost. It seems to me that financing the wars by writing open ended checks wasn't exactly fiscally conservative!<br />
And when the troops come home...THEY will need health care....a lot of it, I bet. There is an anti-intellectual…tag:atheistnexus.org,2010-03-30:2182797:Comment:7751872010-03-30T01:41:48.354Zmojo5501http://atheistnexus.org/profile/mojo5501
There is an anti-intellectual angle to this also. President Obama's background is highly educated...so I would argue that people often put him into the "elite" category, even though his family upbringing certainly wasn't Ivy League.<br />
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I agree that a message is being transmitted to people that are already frustrated: Blame Big Government. Blaming government representatives is the path to take and corporate fraud, corporate waste, and "Wall Street Hustling" is completely ignored. The goal seems to…
There is an anti-intellectual angle to this also. President Obama's background is highly educated...so I would argue that people often put him into the "elite" category, even though his family upbringing certainly wasn't Ivy League.<br />
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I agree that a message is being transmitted to people that are already frustrated: Blame Big Government. Blaming government representatives is the path to take and corporate fraud, corporate waste, and "Wall Street Hustling" is completely ignored. The goal seems to be taking out incumbents of both parties and replacing them with Washington "outsiders", like Sarah Palin. Palin loves to play the part of the outsider and that is why the tea partiers LOVE her so much and recognize themselves in her folksy persona. the easily lead teabaggers ar…tag:atheistnexus.org,2010-03-29:2182797:Comment:7742522010-03-29T02:12:08.416Zjoseph f logstonhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/josephflogston
the easily lead teabaggers are tools for big money corperations (Ruthard Murdoch, Glenn beck) to there cause, (profits) tea-b are put in a racist driven frinesie,that attract hate, they do not want a blackman in the white house, the health reform bill is not the real dive here...........
the easily lead teabaggers are tools for big money corperations (Ruthard Murdoch, Glenn beck) to there cause, (profits) tea-b are put in a racist driven frinesie,that attract hate, they do not want a blackman in the white house, the health reform bill is not the real dive here........... What is amazing is the number…tag:atheistnexus.org,2010-03-29:2182797:Comment:7742042010-03-29T01:14:24.116ZHoward S. Dunnhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/HowardSDunn
What is amazing is the number of lower middle class teabaggers - losing jobs in the rust belt partially due to companies inability to keep up with union healthcare that then affect these peoples jobs in dependent industries such as small parts manufacture. They lose the lionshare of sons and daughters in Iraq - started an escalated by their beloved Bush administration, have no healthcare themselves, get tax breaks from progressives and then complain that the rich will have to pay higher taxes.…
What is amazing is the number of lower middle class teabaggers - losing jobs in the rust belt partially due to companies inability to keep up with union healthcare that then affect these peoples jobs in dependent industries such as small parts manufacture. They lose the lionshare of sons and daughters in Iraq - started an escalated by their beloved Bush administration, have no healthcare themselves, get tax breaks from progressives and then complain that the rich will have to pay higher taxes. It is unbelievable to me. What seems very interesting t…tag:atheistnexus.org,2010-03-28:2182797:Comment:7740312010-03-28T21:51:42.432Zmojo5501http://atheistnexus.org/profile/mojo5501
What seems very interesting to me is that the teabaggers seem such a mix of citizens: political independents, grassroot conservative activists, high school drop-outs, and angry white guys. And most of them would probably be in the income bracket to be eligible for tax breaks...not tax increases. I wonder if any of them have given serious thought to what would happen to our country if tax revenue decreased to a trickle...have they envisioned THAT kind of society? Where everything is privatized?…
What seems very interesting to me is that the teabaggers seem such a mix of citizens: political independents, grassroot conservative activists, high school drop-outs, and angry white guys. And most of them would probably be in the income bracket to be eligible for tax breaks...not tax increases. I wonder if any of them have given serious thought to what would happen to our country if tax revenue decreased to a trickle...have they envisioned THAT kind of society? Where everything is privatized? No public works departments, public libraries, police &amp; fire protection services, road building/repair, public parks, etc.<br />
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They don't have a coherent message or system in place to become a 3rd party...but they seem to be nipping on the heals of moderate conservatives and GOP incumbents. To move the political agenda to the far right. And they use anger, frustration, and even threats of violence to get their message across...as if they'd ever be mistaken as a "subtle" mob.<br />
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They are sure passionate about Sarah Palin also. She likes to add "my husband is an independent" into all her speeches as she fires up the crowd with her folksy folksiness. She grates on me like metal scraping on metal. Even besides that, the wealth…tag:atheistnexus.org,2010-03-28:2182797:Comment:7733202010-03-28T00:38:36.937ZProg Rock Girlhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/ProgRockGirl
Even besides that, the wealthy teabaggers will decry the hardship they've had to endure if they get tax increases.
Even besides that, the wealthy teabaggers will decry the hardship they've had to endure if they get tax increases.