That logic of his frustrated me to no end in the QT. I understood it but just hated his favortism of them. He was so adamant in wanting the Indy's to win over us that it was frustrating and I knew we'd have a hard time winning with Doc around just because of that.

I was convinced Doc was scum until the role reveal and even after that I truly had a hard time accepting he was town because his play had been so scummy and I expected the Indy group to be bigger and not another SK on top of them. The set-up caught me off guard but I liked Dan's creativity with the game.

@ Skyfall
I don't think Magic attacked me in this game and I thought you might have been Taylor's partner since your claim seemed so convenient.

You've used the same logic before albeit in slightly different circumstances. The split amazed me but the SKs wanted scum blood so I was happy to give them their chance, it's not like it made a difference, i'm assuming you shot Fitz (thus saving a townie anyway) and Ziggler was botching results so he would have been lynched too, likewise Lawls. Jupes would have fucked you guys up too if we'd gone with my Roy lynch over him.

you know whose else list was spot on? Big man's. Your list being right is cool, but it means absolutely nothing if you get none of them lynched which people have to realize. You need to either push more on your reads with cases that usually gets people listening to you as most people see EFFORT and just start sheeping(see IMP on that last lynch).

Balls to that. I caught Roy and he lived through it. You can say it was because I was awful blah blah blah but I gave them cold hard facts and town ballsed it up as usual. Maybe there is something to this coasting thing

I forced a lynch through on Lawls who looked scummy as hell instead of the SK, that was awful but the rest of my game wasn't so bad and culminated in a very good end if people had listened. If someone thought i'd suddenly lost any ability I ever had to make good reads in mafia because I got a couple of reads wrong earlier in the game then they're retarded. It shouldn't matter how I played earlier in the game, I gave well reasoned arguments and got squat in return. That wasn't because I played poorly in the first half of the game, it's a persistent problem in games.

the good break that town received with roy was due to roy helping damage when i told him not too.

i told everyone during night that damage has momentum going against him and he won't be looked as town no matter what he does so don't help him or we'll go down. damage feels the heat and roy is preparing his fake claim, damage tells him to get JUPES lynched. roy is like how is he going to do that and he ends up counterclaiming JUPES.

I forced a lynch through on Lawls who looked scummy as hell instead of the SK, that was awful but the rest of my game wasn't so bad and culminated in a very good end if people had listened. If someone thought i'd suddenly lost any ability I ever had to make good reads in mafia because I got a couple of reads wrong earlier in the game then they're retarded. It shouldn't matter how I played earlier in the game, I gave well reasoned arguments and got squat in return. That wasn't because I played poorly in the first half of the game, it's a persistent problem in games.

wat. If I was in the game and you had made bad reads early on then I would start ignoring all your reads later on. you start out bad and people won't listen to you. reputation and influence can only get you so far.