asylum wrote:I can't see a stock 3400 with just bolt ons breaking into the 13's. In fact anything below 14.50 would be surprising, however I hope there are a bunch out there that prove me wrong.

The reality is there is a whack of J-Bodies running around up here with 3400's and I only know of one that can run 14's with any consistency, and it's got headers, a good tune, and a Bill Clark 3t40!

I don't know if it will crack 13s...probably not. But it should be in the 14s all damn day. And Mike's 89 GT with a 3400 ran 14.3@96 with manifolds and a stock throttle body way back in 2005. Granted he had lots of practice, but he also had an open diff and street tires.

Kurt cracked a 14.85 last night. It seems those road course friendly Falken Azenis like to have a few pounds of air knocked out of them. Further testing and launching will yield faster even with these giant brakes - I think 14.7s will be totally repeatable as the car sits now with a bit of exhaust work and more testing on tire pressure.

On topic more so - the more our cars become similar - the more we should differentiate for awards. It is becoming pretty obvious that the 3x00 is the way to make power - so why pit us all against each other? Not to take anything away from the Quad guys, Pat and Brad are doing good work and better times will come from them.

I think 3400s and 3500s should probably be a different category, as well as cars running street tires vs. cars running drag radials or slicks. The difference is either instance is enough to warrant separate awards if the participation numbers are there.