Bad gas and Paleo

Approximately 2 months ago I decided to stop being "semi-paleo" and was finally ready to make it a permanent change in my life; so I did a Whole30, felt great and haven't looked back since... with 1 exception - frequent bad gas. At first, on the W30, I thought it was just bad gut flora, and part of my insides healing from years of back and forth healthy and unhealthy eating, but now I'm starting to wonder if I'm intolerant to certain things.

To further complicate things, I'm currently trying to gain mass cleanly with above average meat, fat and carb (on lifting days) consumption, and the inclusion of eeeevil processed protein powders.

The good news is that I'm at least sticking to egg protein (still processed) that has about 6 ingredients and no lactose or gluten. I'd say on an average lifting day I'm putting down between 3500-4200 calories, with off-days sitting between 2500-3000. I only include this last bit of information to better provide an approximate mental picture of my macro-nutrient profile.

Now, to the question! I am still 90-95% Paleo compliant (overlooking the prot. powder), having removed all legumes, dairy, gluten, sugars, processed foods, etc. from my diet, so where should I start when it comes to finding the gas-causing culprit? Nightshades? Nuts? Eggs? If I do too many, then I feel too restricted when looking up amazing new Paleo recipes to make and subsequently devour. :D And no, that's not to mean I eat quickly or interrupt digestion with lots of liquids during meals, haha.

I realize this thread is a little old, but I did want to add that I recently found out that people (like my husband) who avoid FODMAPs can consume fermented cabbage products. I was listening to Balanced Bite's podcast and they were interviewing Chris Kresser, a gut-health expert, who confirmed this.

I recently did a pork roast with sauerkraut, and I used two jars of sauerkraut. I know it's all cooked, and I would think cooking would take the probiotic benefit out of sauerkraut. But I ate that stuff all week long, and can't remember when my guts have been happier.

I eat sauerkraut a few times a week (should probably look into upping that, as I enjoy it so much), but will likely try the FODMAPS solution first, so sauerkraut is out for the time being. I also was consuming homemade Kombucha about 3 days a week for 2 weeks, although bone broth is not one I've tried making yet!!

Hrm, great information Debi! I will look into complete elimination of FODMAPS foods (sad cuz I love garlic and onions), and will lay off the protein powder (loaded with several different artificial sugars) for 3-5 days and see what the outcome is!

I recently did a pork roast with sauerkraut, and I used two jars of sauerkraut. I know it's all cooked, and I would think cooking would take the probiotic benefit out of sauerkraut. But I ate that stuff all week long, and can't remember when my guts have been happier.

How about a new idea? Are you consuming fruit? If so, what types? Apples, grapes, ... using honey or maple syrup?
Reason why I ask, is that recently, after having a BAD infection and being placed on 4 different antibiotics within a 2 week period, my gut reacted STRONGLY to fruits. There's this other diet, that I've seen many Paleo people do, too, called FODMAPS. It stands for Fermentable Oligo- Di- Mono- saccharides & Polyols. These saccharides and polyols are found mainly in fruits, dairy, grains and sweeteners. Well, being Paleo, the only things on the list I was eating was the fruits. I stopped fruits for two days and gas/diarrhea/bloating disappeared!! (after 2 weeks of that, it was a HUGE relief!!)... so, perhaps look at that aspect of your diet? Here's a quick link to check it out: FODMAPS listing

Hrm, great information Debi! I will look into complete elimination of FODMAPS foods (sad cuz I love garlic and onions), and will lay off the protein powder (loaded with several different artificial sugars) for 3-5 days and see what the outcome is!

I think eliminating each suspect food for a few days and seeing if it helps might be instructive. Eggs are really gassy for me so I suspect the egg protein might be the culprit.
If I were you I'd start with eggs, then nuts, then FODMAP vegetables.

Do you eat any fermented foods? I'd go for sauerkraut, kimchi, and home-made goat kefir to fix the gut. 30 hour of fermentation on kefir will leave very little lactose in it. And home-made bone broth, of course.

I eat sauerkraut a few times a week (should probably look into upping that, as I enjoy it so much), but will likely try the FODMAPS solution first, so sauerkraut is out for the time being. I also was consuming homemade Kombucha about 3 days a week for 2 weeks, although bone broth is not one I've tried making yet!!

I realize this thread is a little old, but I did want to add that I recently found out that people (like my husband) who avoid FODMAPs can consume fermented cabbage products. I was listening to Balanced Bite's podcast and they were interviewing Chris Kresser, a gut-health expert, who confirmed this.

I have been doing paleo for about 3 weeks...right away I noticed a lot of physical improvements. But then after week 2 suddenly bad gas pains, feeling bloated, but not passing any. For 7 years I have not eaten any beef or pork, since my doc diagnosed me with IBS and elimination I found (or thought I had...) these were troublesome for me. Since my diet can get quite boring on the meat front eating paleo I am heavy in fruit/veggie area. I just read an extensive article on FODMAPS (had heard of before but did not worry too much since all these things I never had issues with before really). I am eating some of these in much larger amounts now that my other go to foods are not in my diet. Instead of a snack of cereal, granola, or crackers etc I grab an apple and almond butter. I never would have eaten an apple and grapes and oranges all in the same day before. I am thinking I have an issue with something on the list. So will keep you posted....going to do elimination of FODMAPS items and see what I find.

I also am going to introduce a probiotic for me & my entire family before winter hits anyhow. So this may help too...