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I wish I would have caught the thread which started yesterday earlier, but unfortunately, I've been sick. I want to provide a bit of guidance as to what is and is not allowed in respect of discussing Eloquence and add-ons in general.

Eloquence was a banned topic on the NVDA list for a long time because there was no legal way to use it. Some add-ons were and continue to be floating around, but these add-ons are mostly illegal. Codefactory released an add-on for Eloquence. Once this version of Eloquence became available, the idea of banning eloquence as a discussion topic relaxed a bit. So, moving forward, Eloquence is not to be discussed unless the Eloquence which is being discussed is the one by codefactory. If anyone knows of a legal way to use Eloquence apart from this add-on, which is not free and is available for purchase, please write to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io and let us know. Any discussion of any free method for using Eloquence, or any free eloquence add-on, or any method of circumventing paying for the legitimate add-on is prohibited and will be enforced stringently and without warnings. Let this message be your warning. Any topic about eloquence free add-ons will not be permitted on list by new users. Any user who has been around this list posting about free methods for using Eloquence will be placed on no-post status for a week, and subsequently perminently or unless the list owners choose to lift the ban. Any topic having to do with free eloquence will be immediately closed. Any person responding to a thread about free eloquence, particularly if those messages contain links to free eloquence will face the same consequence as the individual who initiates discussion of this illegal add-on.

Second, users wishing to download add-ons are highly encouraged to visit the NVDA add-on site. NVDA really should have a way of signing add-ons that are legitimate, and informing users of ones which are not, but not sure this is even possible. In any case, this list will deal with add-ons which are posted on the NVDA add-ons page, and users are encouraged highly to not download add-ons from 3rd-party sites. There are a number of sites which host illegal versions of add-ons, and these are prohibited from being discussed on list. This thread is not just about Eloquence, it is about any add-on which is illegal, or offers a free way to use a paid version of an add-on, such as a voice synth.

If you have questions, please write to the NVDA owner address, and I will do my best to clarify. If you disagree, please do write to the NVDA owner address.

--

Best,

Nimer Jaber

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Hello NVDA List:I wish I would have caught the thread which started yesterday earlier, but unfortunately, I've been sick. I want to provide a bit of guidance as to what is and is not allowed in respect of discussing Eloquence and add-ons in general.Eloquence was a banned topic on the NVDA list for a long time because there was no legal way to use it. Some add-ons were and continue to be floating around, but these add-ons are mostly illegal. Codefactory released an add-on for Eloquence. Once this version of Eloquence became available, the idea of banning eloquence as a discussion topic relaxed a bit. So, moving forward, Eloquence is not to be discussed unless the Eloquence which is being discussed is the one by codefactory. If anyone knows of a legal way to use Eloquence apart from this add-on, which is not free and is available for purchase, please write to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda%2Bowner@nvda.groups.io> and let us know. Any discussion of any free method for using Eloquence, or any free eloquence add-on, or any method of circumventing paying for the legitimate add-on is prohibited and will be enforced stringently and without warnings. Let this message be your warning. Any topic about eloquence free add-ons will not be permitted on list by new users. Any user who has been around this list posting about free methods for using Eloquence will be placed on no-post status for a week, and subsequently perminently or unless the list owners choose to lift the ban. Any topic having to do with free eloquence will be immediately closed. Any person responding to a thread about free eloquence, particularly if those messages contain links to free eloquence will face the same consequence as the individual who initiates discussion of this illegal add-on.Second, users wishing to download add-ons are highly encouraged to visit the NVDA add-on site. NVDA really should have a way of signing add-ons that are legitimate, and informing users of ones which are not, but not sure this is even possible. In any case, this list will deal with add-ons which are posted on the NVDA add-ons page, and users are encouraged highly to not download add-ons from 3rd-party sites. There are a number of sites which host illegal versions of add-ons, and these are prohibited from being discussed on list. This thread is not just about Eloquence, it is about any add-on which is illegal, or offers a free way to use a paid version of an add-on, such as a voice synth.If you have questions, please write to the NVDA owner address, and I will do my best to clarify. If you disagree, please do write to the NVDA owner address.-- Best,Nimer JaberThe message above is intended for the recipient to whom it wasaddressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of thiscorrespondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contentsby anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil orcriminal charges. I have checked this email and all correspondingattachments for security threats. However, security of your machine isup to you. Thanks.Registered Linux User 529141.http://counter.li.org/To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XPand above, please click here:http://www.nvda-project.orgYou can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (970) (393-4481) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thankyou, and have a great day!

Besides the NVDA add-on for Eloquence, Code Factory also have a SAPI5 version...

Both are legal ways of using Eloquence with our prefered screen reader, NVDA!

Rui Fontes

Às 18:20 de 26/09/2019, Nimer Jaber escreveu:

Hello NVDA List:

I wish I would have caught the thread which started yesterday earlier, but unfortunately, I've been sick. I want to provide a bit of guidance as to what is and is not allowed in respect of discussing Eloquence and add-ons in general.

Eloquence was a banned topic on the NVDA list for a long time because there was no legal way to use it. Some add-ons were and continue to be floating around, but these add-ons are mostly illegal. Codefactory released an add-on for Eloquence. Once this version of Eloquence became available, the idea of banning eloquence as a discussion topic relaxed a bit. So, moving forward, Eloquence is not to be discussed unless the Eloquence which is being discussed is the one by codefactory. If anyone knows of a legal way to use Eloquence apart from this add-on, which is not free and is available for purchase, please write to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda%2Bowner@nvda.groups.io> and let us know. Any discussion of any free method for using Eloquence, or any free eloquence add-on, or any method of circumventing paying for the legitimate add-on is prohibited and will be enforced stringently and without warnings. Let this message be your warning. Any topic about eloquence free add-ons will not be permitted on list by new users. Any user who has been around this list posting about free methods for using Eloquence will be placed on no-post status for a week, and subsequently perminently or unless the list owners choose to lift the ban. Any topic having to do with free eloquence will be immediately closed. Any person responding to a thread about free eloquence, particularly if those messages contain links to free eloquence will face the same consequence as the individual who initiates discussion of this illegal add-on.

Second, users wishing to download add-ons are highly encouraged to visit the NVDA add-on site. NVDA really should have a way of signing add-ons that are legitimate, and informing users of ones which are not, but not sure this is even possible. In any case, this list will deal with add-ons which are posted on the NVDA add-ons page, and users are encouraged highly to not download add-ons from 3rd-party sites. There are a number of sites which host illegal versions of add-ons, and these are prohibited from being discussed on list. This thread is not just about Eloquence, it is about any add-on which is illegal, or offers a free way to use a paid version of an add-on, such as a voice synth.

If you have questions, please write to the NVDA owner address, and I will do my best to clarify. If you disagree, please do write to the NVDA owner address.

-- Best,

Nimer Jaber

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it wasaddressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of thiscorrespondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contentsby anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil orcriminal charges. I have checked this email and all correspondingattachments for security threats. However, security of your machine isup to you. Thanks.

Besides the NVDA add-on for Eloquence, Code Factory also have a SAPI5 version...

Both are legal ways of using Eloquence with our prefered screen reader, NVDA!

Rui Fontes

Às 18:20 de 26/09/2019, Nimer Jaber escreveu:

Hello NVDA List:I wish I would have caught the thread which started yesterday earlier, but unfortunately, I've been sick. I want to provide a bit of guidance as to what is and is not allowed in respect of discussing Eloquence and add-ons in general.Eloquence was a banned topic on the NVDA list for a long time because there was no legal way to use it. Some add-ons were and continue to be floating around, but these add-ons are mostly illegal. Codefactory released an add-on for Eloquence. Once this version of Eloquence became available, the idea of banning eloquence as a discussion topic relaxed a bit. So, moving forward, Eloquence is not to be discussed unless the Eloquence which is being discussed is the one by codefactory. If anyone knows of a legal way to use Eloquence apart from this add-on, which is not free and is available for purchase, please write to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda%2Bowner@nvda.groups.io> and let us know. Any discussion of any free method for using Eloquence, or any free eloquence add-on, or any method of circumventing paying for the legitimate add-on is prohibited and will be enforced stringently and without warnings. Let this message be your warning. Any topic about eloquence free add-ons will not be permitted on list by new users. Any user who has been around this list posting about free methods for using Eloquence will be placed on no-post status for a week, and subsequently perminently or unless the list owners choose to lift the ban. Any topic having to do with free eloquence will be immediately closed. Any person responding to a thread about free eloquence, particularly if those messages contain links to free eloquence will face the same consequence as the individual who initiates discussion of this illegal add-on.Second, users wishing to download add-ons are highly encouraged to visit the NVDA add-on site. NVDA really should have a way of signing add-ons that are legitimate, and informing users of ones which are not, but not sure this is even possible. In any case, this list will deal with add-ons which are posted on the NVDA add-ons page, and users are encouraged highly to not download add-ons from 3rd-party sites. There are a number of sites which host illegal versions of add-ons, and these are prohibited from being discussed on list. This thread is not just about Eloquence, it is about any add-on which is illegal, or offers a free way to use a paid version of an add-on, such as a voice synth.If you have questions, please write to the NVDA owner address, and I will do my best to clarify. If you disagree, please do write to the NVDA owner address.-- Best,Nimer JaberThe message above is intended for the recipient to whom it wasaddressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of thiscorrespondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contentsby anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil orcriminal charges. I have checked this email and all correspondingattachments for security threats. However, security of your machine isup to you. Thanks.Registered Linux User 529141.http://counter.li.org/To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XPand above, please click here:http://www.nvda-project.orgYou can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (970) (393-4481) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thankyou, and have a great day!

Remember too that those of you with Kurzweil1000 (of course licensed an legal copies like I had at a time, but haven’t had the opportunity to update mine) it has the IBM, which works beautifully with NVDA! Another legal way to use Eloquence or its voices if this makes sense.

Besides the NVDA add-on for Eloquence, Code Factory also have a SAPI5 version...

Both are legal ways of using Eloquence with our prefered screen reader, NVDA!

Rui Fontes

Às 18:20 de 26/09/2019, Nimer Jaber escreveu:

Hello NVDA List:I wish I would have caught the thread which started yesterday earlier, but unfortunately, I've been sick. I want to provide a bit of guidance as to what is and is not allowed in respect of discussing Eloquence and add-ons in general.Eloquence was a banned topic on the NVDA list for a long time because there was no legal way to use it. Some add-ons were and continue to be floating around, but these add-ons are mostly illegal. Codefactory released an add-on for Eloquence. Once this version of Eloquence became available, the idea of banning eloquence as a discussion topic relaxed a bit. So, moving forward, Eloquence is not to be discussed unless the Eloquence which is being discussed is the one by codefactory. If anyone knows of a legal way to use Eloquence apart from this add-on, which is not free and is available for purchase, please write to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda%2Bowner@nvda.groups.io> and let us know. Any discussion of any free method for using Eloquence, or any free eloquence add-on, or any method of circumventing paying for the legitimate add-on is prohibited and will be enforced stringently and without warnings. Let this message be your warning. Any topic about eloquence free add-ons will not be permitted on list by new users. Any user who has been around this list posting about free methods for using Eloquence will be placed on no-post status for a week, and subsequently perminently or unless the list owners choose to lift the ban. Any topic having to do with free eloquence will be immediately closed. Any person responding to a thread about free eloquence, particularly if those messages contain links to free eloquence will face the same consequence as the individual who initiates discussion of this illegal add-on.Second, users wishing to download add-ons are highly encouraged to visit the NVDA add-on site. NVDA really should have a way of signing add-ons that are legitimate, and informing users of ones which are not, but not sure this is even possible. In any case, this list will deal with add-ons which are posted on the NVDA add-ons page, and users are encouraged highly to not download add-ons from 3rd-party sites. There are a number of sites which host illegal versions of add-ons, and these are prohibited from being discussed on list. This thread is not just about Eloquence, it is about any add-on which is illegal, or offers a free way to use a paid version of an add-on, such as a voice synth.If you have questions, please write to the NVDA owner address, and I will do my best to clarify. If you disagree, please do write to the NVDA owner address.-- Best,Nimer JaberThe message above is intended for the recipient to whom it wasaddressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of thiscorrespondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contentsby anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil orcriminal charges. I have checked this email and all correspondingattachments for security threats. However, security of your machine isup to you. Thanks.Registered Linux User 529141.http://counter.li.org/To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XPand above, please click here:http://www.nvda-project.orgYou can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (970) (393-4481) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thankyou, and have a great day!

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