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Thursday, October 17, 2013

The Fraud Revealed

By Sam Huntington

"Health and Human Services spokeswoman Joanne Peters said Tuesday the government omitted a window-shopping function because officials first wanted consumers to know the amount of the subsidy they might be eligible for. Those income-based tax credits can dramatically reduce premiums for people with modest incomes, and personal financial information is needed to calculate the subsidies."

“Our process allows us to show consumers plans with prices that reflect what they will pay with the tax credit they may be eligible for,” Peters said. “Window shopping would not allow for this.” —Associated Press

Public recriminations continue as the American people “suddenly” realize that Barack Obama has done little else but lie to them for the past six years. They idiotically put him into office, and then, if that treason was not bad enough, reelected him. It is nothing if not mind-bending. In this latest iteration of incompetence and lies, websites not only perplex those who want to know the true costs, but people are finding out that the actual costs of the ACA will increase, not decrease their health care costs.The Obama administration has attempted to be far too cute about shielding the truth. For example, consumers are unable to window shop for insurance plans because this information is not available until one first provides all personal data. By the way, inputting this information in its entirety will allow the government to fine you later should you ultimately decide not to enroll. I find it stunning that the American people have figured this out long before the realized what a lying fraud Obama is … but that is a topic for the future.

The scheme to defraud the American people is worthy of beltway politics, however, and it matches almost precisely the rhetoric offered to us by the DC Madame, Nancy Pelosi: “But we have to pass the bill so that you can uh … find out what’s in it.” Remember that whatever the government gives (health care subsidy), it can take away.In 2008, Barack Obama promised that his health care plan would lower insurance premiums by $2,500 per family. As it turns out, this might be true (emphasis added for effect) if (a) one qualifies for a government subsidy, and/or (b) one continues to qualify for a government subsidy in the future. On the other hand, if one does not qualify for the subsidy, his or her health care insurance premium is increasing as much as three times. We should wonder about the kind of American that is fine with allowing the entire country to pay for his or her health insurance subsidy. Finally, we find ourselves confronting with this unalterable fact: the glitch everyone is stalking about is an intentional ploy by the Obama administration to hide its broken promise to the American people. The light may be coming on because it seems that most Americans are no longer accepting the Obama shell game. Maybe there is some hope yet ... without the change.

By failing to present any evidence whatsoever that there may be a redeeming feature or two in this monstrous albatross now hung around our necks -- and by studiously avoiding any hint of admission that one might exist -- we, conservative-libertarians are doing ourselves a great disservice. We are doing exactly what "The Other Side" does all the time -- i.e. 1) admit no fault, however glaring, 2) attack the character and impugn the motives of those with differing views, 3) steadfastly maintain that black is white and vice versa no matter what evidence may be presented to the contrary, 4) persist in turning a deaf ear and a scowling face to any overtures from the opposition that may appear sober, rational or even faintly amicable.

That's what "they" do all the time -- and isn't it provocatively irksome?

What good do you imagine "we" might do ourselves in establishing greater credibility in the Public's Mind by following "their" lead, and behaving just as "they" tend to do?

Gridlock Belligerence and INtransigence have become so established and so routinized as to be REFLEXIVE --- i.e. we now react -- like Pavlov's dogs -- without giving any THOUGHT to what we are saying.

ALSO, in constantly denigrating, constantly vilifying, constantly insulting our opponents without offering solid suggestions for CONSTRUCTIVE ALTERNATIVES, all we are doing is the moral equivalent of expelling a great deal of HOT AIR -- a gas becoming increasingly noxious and malodorous with each stale recycling of its decaying chemical composition.

Please don't take umbrage, instead try THINKING for a change. Who knows? It might help impel us away from our present stasis of moral and intellectual decay.

I never give up hope that something will -- an soon enough to evert the complete disaster looming large dead ahead.

AOW, the Forbes link FINALLY gets to the point a the very end with this paragraph:

"... Obamacare wasn’t designed to help healthy people with average incomes get health insurance. It was designed to force those people to pay more for coverage, in order to subsidize insurance for people with incomes near the poverty line, and those with chronic or costly medical conditions.

Yes, of course, and isn't that EXACTLY what I told you the last time we spoke privately?

According to an Aetna CEO, it will take three years to fix and may have to start over. An interview at cnbc. Obama may have been just too clever on this one. Now that some attention is on this, I am not so sure the kool aid will keep on going. I am not so sure this was planned.

Hey FT, I tried to post on your blog this morning and was locked out. Whats the scoop have you gone chicken? Are your turning Liberal engaging in censorship than this one. You are killing your reputation by doing that. It's kind of sad.

We are all one big government family now. Most Americans have already become accustumed to serfdom. It will take us conservates longer to adjust or there is always FEMA camps where they will take care of us.

Obama provoked the shutdown, and it was his close adviser Valerie Jarrett who planned it out in detail, according to author Ed Klein,Obama hates what America stands for!As long as Obama is president he will not negotiate with people he believes are inherently evil. This is why he calls them hostage takers and rapists. This is why Democrats call the GOP every name in the book. It is because they feel victimized by America and they're out to get even, so if you're wondering why Washington doesn't work anymore, there's your reason. ..

I believe we are just a few years from a federal law that requires everyone have implanted a bio-chip; one that will give the government immediate access to personal, financial, and medical information—upon demand. And I do believe that most Americans would simply roll over for such a program, ignoring the startling conclusions that Orwell was absolutely correct. The pigs have taken over the farm.

Yes. Mr. Sinclair. I've been predicting that -- or something very like it --, myself, for several decades.

Once an inimical ideology or technology has been discovered, it WILL be implemented. Science has no moral compass. When people turn their backs on God, "like sheep" they will go astray, every one unto his own way," and all will suffer as a result.

The only leader we could safely follow is Almighty God -- and the handful who are honestly guided by Him in their motives and ambitions.

For those who don't know what this is all about, I just tried to comment on FT's blog and I go this message"“Comments on this blog are restricted to team members.”So I guess that he has restricted his blog to his cronies only

Not at all. We had an avalanche of out-and-out garbage dumped on the site this morning. It's a pain-in-the ass to have to pick through such a stinking mess, weed out the rottenest parts, bag 'em up and toss 'em away, so I decided to try a different form of "moderation" for a while.

Anyone would be welcome to comment from any part of political spectrum as long as he or she doesn't resort to "boilerplate" -- i.e. formulaic outbursts of anger and derision aimed at no one in particular.

I would love to deal with adversaries as long as they're intelligent, polite and stick to the points at issue.

Here once again is what I will no tolerate:

NOTICE:

I will not put up with irrelevant NONSENSE, witless FEUDING, bitchy backbiting, personal insults, and BOILERPLATE screeds -- even from "friends."

Either be prepared to engage in honest conversation, make a RELEVANT comment to the subject at hand, and be prepared to discuss it politely, or just STAY AWAY.

I lament the fact that the GOP's ill-timed and ill-conceived tantrum took the nation's attention away from the disastrous roll out of this creaking, Soviet-style monstrosity known as Obamacare.

I also want to declare that I stand solidly with my friend Mr. FreeThinke. When you go where the truth leads you, those who choose rigid ideology uber alles will become your enemies, and you will have enemies in all camps.

It is a rare blessing to have both true friends and true enemies revealed.

Freiheit Wahrheit or whatever her name is, is the kind of person you just want to slap down for being so damn annoying. She most likely has no life and way too much time on her hands. But she frequently use’s her excessive amount of time to annoy and monitor others, tattletale for small meaningless crap, butt into everybody's business except their own, and spy on people as if they think they are a cop or an important person or something. Yes Freiheit Wahrheit is a self-righteous hypocrite!

Why are you lefties still so damn angry???You won yet again on the budget/debt limit as the Republicans/conservatives/tea party got squat. It's quite a winning streak you have going.

- You got Obamacare- Federal spending is soaring- Taxes on the "rich" are going up- The "poor" are not only not paying taxes but getting refunds of taxes they didn't pay- State rights are reduced to only that which the Federal government decides to allow them- We are doing little to nothing to secure our borders- The Republican majority in the House is irrelevant and has no power- Obama is doing what W did in the Middle East and W is still being blamed for it- W is still being blamed for our economy five years after he left.

You are completely and utterly dominating the Republican party in every conceivable way and you have been for the last decade. So I don't get it, why are you still so angry and pissed ? The Progressive bloggers are still calling us those vile names. You have no tolerance, no empathy, no mercy for those you have utterly crushed. Shaw is STILL calling anyone and everyone who disagrees with her racist, sexist, homophobes who hate the poor and immigrants and love the rich and corporations, and worse! Why? What would it take to get you to pull the stick out? Aren't you getting enough?

I'll tell you why they are so angry...because they are not winning. Obama Care is a disaster and they know it. Inside they blame republicans for that. They don't want Obama Care they want Totally free care in a single payer system. You just can't tax the rich enough to satisfy their unbridled anger towards people that have a bigger TV than they do. They are also not happy with the war on terror and they see it as a Bush war that the republicans and the Tea Party won't let Barry Obama out from.In other words they are unrepentant extreme whack jobs that have never read the Constitution nor the Bill of Rights and were raised to hate their own Nations Founders. They were lied to in school and they sucked it right in and now they are voting. Voting against their own children's future and they are too Damn angry to see it

Libs will never be happy because the rich will never be taxed enough to please them!.And government will never spend enough, or give them enough FREE STUFF to suit them. When exactly was the left ever satisfied?

Obamacare was carefully hidden from the public until after it was passed and signed.Remember when Nancy Pelosi said, “We Have to Pass the Bill So That You Can Find Out What Is In It" But the people on the Left were to ignorant to realize that something was NOT RIGHT! And they had to find out the hard way. And now, with the Obamacare exchanges open for business and full of details on what it will and won't cover, how much people's premiums will increase and even often doubling or tripling. So finally the American people are getting their first good look at Obama’s leftists' agenda for them.To no one's surprise, they hate it,I mean really hate it!

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