Well the title says it all. I'm interested in getting a 1911 but am not quite ready to chunk out 2500 for a wilson etc. Can yall give me advice on the best buy for my money on a 1911 around $1000.

thanks,
Brian

drc767

10-21-2009, 16:33

a down payment for a Wilson CQB.....

FLRon777

10-21-2009, 16:43

After doing a bit of research before I purchased my first 1991 a couple of weeks ago, I can tell you that I consistently read and heard from people I respect, to look at the Dan Wesson Bobtail (CBOB) which can be purchased for around $1000.

I opted to spend a bit more and go with something else, but if I had a cap of $1,000, this would be something I would seriously consider.

meyerbj81

10-21-2009, 16:50

flron what did you end up getting? Its not an absolute cap but more of a general range

Narkcop

10-21-2009, 17:03

I'm buying a Double Star 1911 for right at $1100.00 from Bud's. All steel (forged frame) no MIM parts, Ed Brown small parts, match barrel, all hand fitted. Best 1911 bargain out there right now.

den888

10-21-2009, 17:03

Colt Govt Model or Kimber

drc767

10-21-2009, 17:24

In all seriousness, if you are looking for the best deal for 1k or under, I would say that the best bang for the buck out there is the Springfield Mil-Spec and it is way under a grand. I have both the GI and the Mil-Spec. Get one, take it out of the box, have a basic trigger job and you will have a 1911 that will be a regular work horse that will compete with any thousand dollar 1911, in my opinion.

AZ Husker

10-21-2009, 17:39

Everybody needs a Colt sometime in their life. Now might be yours.

meyerbj81

10-21-2009, 17:55

thanks for all the help guys. I'm just torn between getting something now or waiting a few more months and getting a wilson. the more I think about it the more I feel I should wait.

CharlestonG26

10-21-2009, 17:56

For the money, the Springfield Mil-Spec is a very nice 1911. I have one in stainless and it surprised me when I first shot it with its accuracy. For around $1,200 - $1,400, I really like my Springfield TRP.

svtlightning03

10-21-2009, 18:08

I purchased my SA MC Operator for about $1,000.00 - great pistol!

bac1023

10-21-2009, 18:20

Well the title says it all. I'm interested in getting a 1911 but am not quite ready to chunk out 2500 for a wilson etc. Can yall give me advice on the best buy for my money on a 1911 around $1000.

thanks,
Brian

STI Trojan

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5629/0001690ud9.jpg

dances with guns

10-21-2009, 18:40

this is around $900 from springer:
http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/champop1911/P1020257.jpg

this gun is one of my best purchases! tack driver, even with cheap ammo, and never jams :supergrin:

RoG23

10-21-2009, 19:09

Dan Wesson Commander Bobtail!!

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1134450

WWII

10-21-2009, 19:11

1 RIA
$600 worth of ammo

trickyvic

10-21-2009, 19:47

+1 on the Dan Wessons or save a little for a SA TRP.

FLRon777

10-21-2009, 20:00

flron what did you end up getting? Its not an absolute cap but more of a general range

I really wanted something a little special, so I treated myself to a Ed Brown Executive Elite. I realize that there are fantastic pistols available at a fraction of the price, but for me it was something beyond utilitarian.

For me at least, 1911's seem to be able to transcend practical needs and evoke something ethereal. :supergrin:

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/FLRon777/3c5fa03a.jpg

ambluemax

10-21-2009, 21:25

What do you want it for? Are we assuming government size?

TRP's used to be the clear ticket, but IMO they are overpriced now. I love mine, but I wouldn't pay more than $1200 out the door for it. Once you are shelling out $1500, there are better options. If you are willing to spend a grand, you will be disappointed with the milspec and GI. They are definatly solid guns, but you can get something a lot more refined for the money you are looking to spend. If you shoot regularly (like I do) you will appreciate the difference. Now that I'm used to my DW CBOB and SA TRP, I don't really like to shoot my SA GI much anymore. Sad but true!

You can get into an SA Loaded for a grand. Definatly a solid choice with all the goodies right out of the box. If you don't mind rails, I kind of have a soft spot for the MC operator too.

Dan Wessons are quite a value, but their prices are heading north too and they can be hard to find. The Valor is worth a look if the pricetag is agreeable to you. Their other 5" guns are more geared toward competion specific applications IMO, but if that's what you want check out the pointman.

If you are willing to spend the kind of money it takes to get a semi custom, the wait time to save up the money is acceptable to you, and you shoot a lot. Definatly wait, save, and get one. There is a tangible diffence between the $1k and $2K guns but you do have to be a regular shooter to feel and appreciate the difference. I probably average about 200 rounds a month, I've kind of become a 1911 snob, and been exposed to the higher end 1911's. I can feel and appreciate the difference. By contrast, one of my good shooting buddies shoots half as much as I do (maybe). He can feel the difference between a $1k- and $1K+ gun, but the difference between a $1K and a $2K gun is lost on him.

So you kind of have to decide for yourself. If you get out to the range regularly, espeically if you are a somewhat active competition shooter, and you can swing the money- GET A SEMI CUSTOM. If not, you will be very happy with what can be had in the $1k range.

Which semi-custom is a whole 'nother discussion. The short version is you really can't go wrong with any of them.

Bm7b5

10-21-2009, 21:45

I don't know what the best one is. But I know I'm happy with my SW1911PD that comes in at just under a grand new. It's my current EDC.

http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae247/Bm7b5_album/IMG_0834.jpg

http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae247/Bm7b5_album/IMG_0828.jpg

Bm7b5

10-21-2009, 21:45

I really wanted something a little special, so I treated myself to a Ed Brown Executive Elite. I realize that there are fantastic pistols available at a fraction of the price, but for me it was something beyond utilitarian.

For me at least, 1911's seem to be able to transcend practical needs and evoke something ethereal. :supergrin:

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/FLRon777/3c5fa03a.jpg

That's a beauty!

bac1023

10-21-2009, 21:50

That's a beauty!

Yeah, those Ed Browns are nice looking pistols. :supergrin:

MD357

10-21-2009, 22:47

Well the title says it all. I'm interested in getting a 1911 but am not quite ready to chunk out 2500 for a wilson etc. Can yall give me advice on the best buy for my money on a 1911 around $1000.

thanks,
Brian

If you do a search.... there's literally 9042830498209340239 of these threads. Nearly one a week it seems. Just sayin.

Dan Wesson.

dances with guns

10-21-2009, 22:59

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/FLRon777/3c5fa03a.jpg

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/champop1911/do-want.jpg

DaBigBR

10-21-2009, 23:24

No bad advice on this thread.

My list at your price in no particular order:

-Colt
-S&W
-Springfield
-Sig
-STI

I didn't put Kimber on the list, but I do own two of them. I think that they make a good gun, but they are often close to overpriced and are way over-hyped. Everybody that knows nothing about 1911s think that Kimber makes the be-all-end-all best 1911 in the world...good marketing does that, but it's a point at times that it gets old.

At the $1,000 price point, the world is your oyster.

meyerbj81

10-22-2009, 00:14

To answer some of the questions I do shoot a fair amount each month, around 400 rounds or so. I had surgery for a broken arm so I've been out for a while but am healed now and ready to get back to it. I was actually looking for a commander sized pistol although I'm not dead set. I would of course use it for the range but also am interested in carry. Many of the shooters and instuctors I've interacted with seemed to have alot of 1911s so I was thinking I should try it out. I haves sigs, smiths, glocks, and hks but no 1911s, seems I''m lacking somewhere ha ha. Thanks for all your help, I'm looking strongly to the DW commander classic bobtail, I just need to find one in my area.

MD357

10-22-2009, 01:07

Everybody that knows nothing about 1911s think that Kimber makes the be-all-end-all best 1911 in the world...good marketing does that, but it's a point at times that it gets old.

That's the quote of the year. :rofl:

RoG23

10-22-2009, 01:35

To answer some of the questions I do shoot a fair amount each month, around 400 rounds or so. I had surgery for a broken arm so I've been out for a while but am healed now and ready to get back to it. I was actually looking for a commander sized pistol although I'm not dead set. I would of course use it for the range but also am interested in carry. Many of the shooters and instuctors I've interacted with seemed to have alot of 1911s so I was thinking I should try it out. I haves sigs, smiths, glocks, and hks but no 1911s, seems I''m lacking somewhere ha ha. Thanks for all your help, I'm looking strongly to the DW commander classic bobtail, I just need to find one in my area.

OR;
Check 1911forum.com under the Dan Wesson Forum. You will find plenty advice, reviews and even may find a CBOB. They have a DW CBOB Finder thread giving any tips and places where you might find one at a good price! The CBOB is an awsome pistol. It's my first 1911 and I am extremely happy with it so far. Very well made, espesially for a $1000.

RoG23

10-22-2009, 01:39

this is around $900 from springer:
http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/champop1911/P1020257.jpg

this gun is one of my best purchases! tack driver, even with cheap ammo, and never jams :supergrin:

Geez I really like that. That was my first choice but they were on back order:crying:

Morgo

10-22-2009, 02:49

+ 1 for the STI Trojan

http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/brycemorgan452/P1020776.jpg

I have similar priced springfields and kimbers, IMHO the Trojan is a better firearm.

DaBigBR

10-22-2009, 09:15

That's the quote of the year. :rofl:

I just really hate when somebody asks what 1911s I have and they think that the $900 Kimbers are better guns than the $2600 Springfield Professional Model, solely because they have seen a bunch of Kimber ads.

bac1023

10-22-2009, 09:21

I just really hate when somebody asks what 1911s I have and they think that the $900 Kimbers are better guns than the $2600 Springfield Professional Model, solely because they have seen a bunch of Kimber ads.

Even as a Kimber fan, I must say that you would have to be pretty darn stupid to think a $900 Kimber (or any Kimber for that matter) is better than a Springfield Custom 1911.

However, they also offered the DLX, which is the same model without the rail.

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/000_1868.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/000_1869.jpg

Unertls are amazing, but 2-3 times the price of the Doublestar model.

Like I said, if Doublestar does the same thing, its mine.

Neener Neener

10-22-2009, 20:56

Well, I probably do not have the knowledge or experience as many here, but here is my recommendation: Dan Wesson CBob. I have not fired any high end 1911s, such as the Nighthawks or Wilsons, but I have owned/fired STIs, Kimbers, Springfields, and Colts. My CBob has been, by far, the favorite of any I have ever had the opportunity to experience.

bac1023

10-22-2009, 20:57

Well, I probably do not have the knowledge or experience as many here, but here is my recommendation: Dan Wesson CBob. I have not fired any high end 1911s, such as the Nighthawks or Wilsons, but I have owned/fired STIs, Kimbers, Springfields, and Colts. My CBob has been, by far, the favorite of any I have ever had the opportunity to experience. If you are interested in one, PM me and I will tell you where there was one for sale on another forum for a decent price.

The Dan Wesson CBOB and PM7 are certainly two of the best $1000 and under 1911s.

I still like the STI Trojan a bit better though.

meyerbj81

10-22-2009, 21:00

Bac, is there any specific reason you sway towards the STI or is it just a general feeling you get from that certain pistol

awpk03s

10-22-2009, 21:03

this is around $900 from springer:
http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/champop1911/P1020257.jpg

this gun is one of my best purchases! tack driver, even with cheap ammo, and never jams :supergrin:

I can attest to this pistol as well. I have one, and it's flawless for me. Love it.

bac1023

10-22-2009, 21:03

Bac, is there any specific reason you sway towards the STI or is it just a general feeling you get from that certain pistol

Its a general feeling, I guess.

STI makes 1911s in many different price ranges. At $1000 or slightly over, I just think the Trojan is the best option. Its a very smooth and accurate shooter.

TapandRack

10-25-2009, 09:35

1 RIA
$600 worth of ammo

Now this post make the most sense I have seen in a long time!

I even have the original Military Target Sights on mine.....you know the thin front blade and the narrow notch rear like they put on the Remington and Ithaca.

I have a great deal of fun shooting my Rock Island and watching the Kimbers and Springers jamming. After 5 or 6 clips I just spit on the barrel throat through the ejection port and load er up and keep banging. Then I run my target back with a smoking hole in the middle of the bulls eye and leave it on the rack. That draws a crowd and entertains them. Then they all stand around screaming at one another with ear mufflers on to hear each other.:director::stooges:

Quack

10-25-2009, 09:37

Now this post make the most sense I have seen in a long time!

I even have the original Military Target Sights on mine.....you know the thin front blade and the narrow notch rear like they put on the Remington and Ithaca.

I have a great deal of fun shooting my Rock Island and watching the Kimbers and Springers jamming. After 5 or 6 magazines I just spit on the barrel throat through the ejection port and load er up and keep banging. Then I run my target back with a smoking hole in the middle of the bulls eye and leave it on the rack. That draws a crowd and entertains them. Then they all stand around screaming at one another with ear mufflers on to hear each other.:director::stooges:

fixed for you ;)

TapandRack

10-25-2009, 09:42

fixed for you ;)Thank You....:supergrin:

ambluemax

10-25-2009, 12:20

Now this post make the most sense I have seen in a long time!

I even have the original Military Target Sights on mine.....you know the thin front blade and the narrow notch rear like they put on the Remington and Ithaca.

I have a great deal of fun shooting my Rock Island and watching the Kimbers and Springers jamming. After 5 or 6 clips I just spit on the barrel throat through the ejection port and load er up and keep banging. Then I run my target back with a smoking hole in the middle of the bulls eye and leave it on the rack. That draws a crowd and entertains them. Then they all stand around screaming at one another with ear mufflers on to hear each other.:director::stooges:

Dude you don't know what you are missing. I have a Gi model springfield, so I can talk. They work to be sure, but there is a HUGE difference between GI configured guns and the $1000 guns we are talking about. Since my SA TRP and DW CBOB moved into the cabinet, the GI is pretty low on my list of guns to shoot when I go to the range- just when I have an occasional retro mood. The springfields and kimbers you see "jamming" have either been monkied with by folks who don't know what they are doing or they are not being properly maintained.

Spit on the barrel throat, wtf...like that does anything to keep you gun running:rofl:

TapandRack

10-25-2009, 14:22

Dude you don't know what you are missing. I have a Gi model springfield, so I can talk. They work to be sure, but there is a HUGE difference between GI configured guns and the $1000 guns we are talking about. Since my SA TRP and DW CBOB moved into the cabinet, the GI is pretty low on my list of guns to shoot when I go to the range- just when I have an occasional retro mood. The springfields and kimbers you see "jamming" have either been monkied with by folks who don't know what they are doing or they are not being properly maintained.

Spit on the barrel throat, wtf...like that does anything to keep you gun running:rofl:

Well you can have your " JMB Monkied with Design " Yonkers, NY Kimber, Spanish Springfields, which you will never be able to get factory replacement parts for, I will just keep my old Remington Rand and Ithaca and Singer that rattles when I shake it. They bite my hand with the standard hammer, belch smoke and spray hot grease when I shoot them. No I don't have to make a career maintaining them either or carry them in a $200.00 Miami style shoulder holster. My Rock Island shoots just as good as them and all the parts are interchangeable with them. I like to slap that Singer slide onto the Rock and blast off a box of ammo, the slap the Rock Island slide on that Singer frame and blast off another box of WWB 230 Ball.

Then the questions fly......how much do you want for that Singer...

Awe!.. this old rattle trap ain't worth a flip...It don't have a light rail, skeleton Titanium trigger or case harden computer designed light weight hammer or them glow in the dark sights. It will group around 5 inches at 25 yards though. It's just an old clunker like me...not good for anything anymore. I just use it as a paper weight on my desk now :yawn:

Nestor

10-25-2009, 14:49

I'm somehow undecided between Norinco and S&W.
I guess I will buy the Chinese steel and save money for the ammo.

TapandRack

10-25-2009, 18:32

I'm somehow undecided between Norinco and S&W.
I guess I will buy the Chinese steel and save money for the ammo.
Wise choice...the Norinco has a machined frame, a plus if you are going to do a build up. Several people like them and they don't have that funky finicky external extractor :supergrin:.

Nestor

10-25-2009, 18:40

Wise choice...the Norinco has a machined frame, a plus if you are going to do a build up. Several people like them and they don't have that funky finicky external extractor :supergrin:.

Thanks.
+ the price is 1/3 of the S&W :wavey:

nastytrigger

10-25-2009, 18:51

Springfield Armory GI, Mil-Spec, Loaded, and Champions are bargains

79HumbleBee

10-25-2009, 19:05

Taurus PT1911 is about $757.

bac1023

10-25-2009, 19:27

Taurus PT1911 is about $757.

...which is highway robbery.

Tactical black

10-25-2009, 19:41

...which is highway robbery.

I agree

hatidua

10-25-2009, 19:53

A good 1911 is difficult to wear out: if I had $1K to spend on one, I'd surf the classified section on this site and a few others for a month and get the best Springfield or Colt I could (Colt Series 70 reissue, Springer TRP/MC-Operator/Loaded, etc).

I picked up a very good condition Springer PRO for $1600 a few months back, the deals ARE out there :cool:

AcenJay

10-26-2009, 09:21

Its a general feeling, I guess.

STI makes 1911s in many different price ranges. At $1000 or slightly over, I just think the Trojan is the best option. Its a very smooth and accurate shooter.

Have STI Trojans gone up in price? I'm sure I saw them going for several hundred dollars less at gun shows less than a year ago.

ambluemax

10-26-2009, 11:49

Well you can have your " JMB Monkied with Design " Yonkers, NY Kimber, Spanish Springfields, which you will never be able to get factory replacement parts for, I will just keep my old Remington Rand and Ithaca and Singer that rattles when I shake it. They bite my hand with the standard hammer, belch smoke and spray hot grease when I shoot them. No I don't have to make a career maintaining them either or carry them in a $200.00 Miami style shoulder holster. My Rock Island shoots just as good as them and all the parts are interchangeable with them. I like to slap that Singer slide onto the Rock and blast off a box of ammo, the slap the Rock Island slide on that Singer frame and blast off another box of WWB 230 Ball.

Then the questions fly......how much do you want for that Singer...

Awe!.. this old rattle trap ain't worth a flip...It don't have a light rail, skeleton Titanium trigger or case harden computer designed light weight hammer or them glow in the dark sights. It will group around 5 inches at 25 yards though. It's just an old clunker like me...not good for anything anymore. I just use it as a paper weight on my desk now :yawn:

Man are you for real?

I won't be able to get factory parts for my springer? Pretty sure I've sent my GI back to springer when the slidestop/thumbsafety plunger tube came loose. They put on a new one FOR FREE and even covered shipping. It was back in my hands inside of three weeks.

You want to talk about getting factory parts. Good luck getting factory parts from Rem-rand or singer. LOL

You RIA does not shoot as good as my TRP or CBOB, that I would bet big bucks on.

TapandRack

10-26-2009, 12:53

Man are you for real?

I won't be able to get factory parts for my springer? Pretty sure I've sent my GI back to springer when the slidestop/thumbsafety plunger tube came loose. They put on a new one FOR FREE and even covered shipping. It was back in my hands inside of three weeks.

You want to talk about getting factory parts. Good luck getting factory parts from Rem-rand or singer. LOL

You RIA does not shoot as good as my TRP or CBOB, that I would bet big bucks on. Loose plunger tubes are a chronic Springfield problem. The Mexicans just can't seem to hit them rivets hard enough when they are putting them on in Mexico before they ship them to that Texas Warehouse.

The only thing Springfield Armory makes in the USA is repairs. Three weeks WOW!...... Ivan and Arnel send me RIA parts over night. Never had to tighten a RIA plunger tube ever

Springfield Armory in Genesco, IL has nothing to do with the Original Springfield Firearms in Springfield Mass. It is a privately owned import company, owned and operated by the Reese Brothers and they import EVERYTHING they sell. Call them and ask them for yourself.

Now we all know that Remington and Singer went out of business a long time ago. That's no secret. But Brownells has a large supply of good after market parts, should either ever break one. The Remington has about 20 k rounds though it and the Singer has about 30k since I bought it in 1957 for 30 bucks.

I just shot out the barrel after 25k rounds on the RIA and Ivan sent me a new one overnight...at no charge and it dropped right in too.

I live in East Tennessee and if you are every down this way and have your (Llama Factory Brazilian made, overpriced, overrated) Springer with you I will take that bet. You just can't make chicken salad out of chicken crap!

I'll get out my RIA and lube it up with some Crisco and Corn Liquor and we will have us a shooting match. See the RIA has a real .45 caliber firing pin and not that skinny 9 mm Titanium needle and it need lube :tongueout::rofl:

Don't get me wrong Springfield's Junkers are great money makers for me. Almost as good as Para Ordinance Canadian masterpieces.

Quack

10-26-2009, 12:56

Have STI Trojans gone up in price? I'm sure I saw them going for several hundred dollars less at gun shows less than a year ago.

are you sure you're not thinking of the Spartan?

the Trojan has been about $1000 for a while

Quack

10-26-2009, 12:59

Loose plunger tubes are a chronic Springfield problem. The Mexicans just can't seem to hit them rivets hard enough when they are putting them on in Mexico.

made in Brazil by Imbel, not Mexico

Brazilian girls > Filipino or Mexican girls :D

AcenJay

10-26-2009, 13:01

are you sure you're not thinking of the Spartan?

the Trojan has been about $1000 for a while

You're right, I was confusing the Trojan for the Spartan. I forgot about that one.

TapandRack

10-26-2009, 14:14

made in Brazil by Imbel, not Mexico

Brazilian girls > Filipino or Mexican girls :D

I could have swore that Dave Williams told me the final assembly was done in Mexico...but at my age I lucky to remember all my kids names. I am actually starting to enjoy Alzheimer's......I get to meet new people everyday LOL!

When the wife comes into the shop, I just look at her and say "Who Are you Looking For Ma'am? She just mumbles something and leaves.....and she calls me stupid! :rofl:((0-0))

TapandRack

10-26-2009, 14:17

You're right, I was confusing the Trojan for the Spartan. I forgot about that one.

Trojan.....now there is something I remember. They gave us a bunch of them in Viet Nam to keep our cigarettes dry! :supergrin:

RedsoxFan4Lyfe

01-26-2010, 17:51

I really wanted something a little special, so I treated myself to a Ed Brown Executive Elite. I realize that there are fantastic pistols available at a fraction of the price, but for me it was something beyond utilitarian.

For me at least, 1911's seem to be able to transcend practical needs and evoke something ethereal. :supergrin: