Philhttp://www.usglobalsat.com/forum/index.php?topic=3795.msg10269;boardseen#new- Skip waypoint in trackback feature to avoid going at the beginning- Lap full problem when pressing lap.- Stop/decelerating speed: having inertia when using GPS because of the accuracy/peak errors- Same thing with cumulate, with GPS- Odometer feature, that counts total traveled distance even when it's not recording an activity

Next Albert's suggestion are all related to this post:http://www.usglobalsat.com/forum/index.php?topic=3795.msg10238#msg10238- Change the quick button to page and arrow up together- Switch backlight off option in the menu- make a field in Barometer page with option default home altitude- correct auto-zoom in map mode- Change the bicycle symbol (asked also by Longjob -and me-) see suggestion in Albert's post.- For STP mode: if track back is activated change the logic of ESC button into go back 1 page function- Change the light grey fields to a bit darker (asked by TT and others too)- Buttons setting: on the topside, makes it possible to do a lot better navigation thru the pages like back function and so on- Monitor AVeraGe only at least every 4 sec to economize cpu use.- Power indicator not only for accessories page.- Correct slope (don't work) + not show up in TG!!- Max speed calculations error???- Make recoding automatic for Smart Trackback feature

http://www.usglobalsat.com/forum/index.php?topic=3795.msg10295#msg10295- Slope a bit slow: reset the slope to zero if altitude shows a (after 2 sec) a downhill situation or if it goes up from down altitude.- Confusion in trackback feature with the bicycle and the line- Add the option after track back reached his goal to continue ride- Auto zoom mode should be based on STP so if this in almost the middle of the screen it should zoom in to.

http://www.usglobalsat.com/forum/index.php?topic=3795.msg10390#msg10390- Improve speed based zoom a little bit as well.- Slope calculation over a schorter time, Recording to Geoffrey they working on it. - Change pages layout: If you go into the user pages the up and down key should page through the user pages until you press OK. Starting the recording should be made automatic and saving the data could be done by ESC key. The OK works than like the GH625 and you go through the other pages in a cycle.

canadien

IMHO I think accessing main menu while keeping the button pressed during 2 sec. is very fluid and does work fine!

But starting activity, stopping it and resetting it should be done, like all gs watches, with OK button (start stop activity) and esc button (reset activity). The arrow buttons "<-, ->" should only be use IMHO to navigate in the watch. And, of course, the right arrow buttons "->/LAP" to trigger lap.

I tink the more we concentrate functions on ESC and OK, the more the device become intuitive. Arrows buttons are just there to complement -no signifiant functions other then navigate (in the main menu and in the activity pages) and triggering lap".

But I still think it's a firmware error that make stop and start buttons inverted!

In My Humble Opinion, the less you have to play with different buttons on the device, the more it become intuitive. If you can set the majority of the functions on only two buttons, you have been successful. I have some ideas but think the first step is to do this. If you don't do this you are using too much buttons... IMHO

Before giving all my ideas concerning buttons pattern, I want to know what others beta think of that. I personally think that it's obvious to do this, like you did on your watches. Why being different???

canadien

To me intuitive mean logical and efficient. IMO actual pattern is not. I'll explain whyI think side buttons are inverted from the first day I tried it.

A logical way of thinking is to put main access functions buttons the highest possible and the navigation button in the lower part of the device. So the importance of the buttons decrease from the top to the bottom.This is for the logical part.

For the efficiency part, IMO, you have to concentrate on a main button -ESC button-, have a secondary button -OK button- and the rest of the buttons. Like I said, the less you use different buttons for main functions, the more it become efficient.

So we end up with something like this.

As you realize it makes the device text inverted ( I applied mirror effect). So instead of remanufacturing everything you could send a front face sticker for girls and guys like me who prefer accessing main function by the top. But those who wish main function at the bottom could let it like it is...(without sticker).

I also put lap lap on esc button to be true to all gs-sport device and stays on the same logic. IMO split and escape buttons fit well together (in my head it's logic).

...It's arrived! I received my GB-580B Sample today. Here are my first impression. Good looking product! Like the high resolution display! Unboxing the device - relvealed a surprise to me (maybe I just haven't been reading this forum thorough enough). The entry model (GB-580B) does not come with a heart rate monitor. I think many bike-riders will miss this feature. If you - as a cyclist should choose between the GB-580B and e.g. the GH625M (or maybe Garmin 305), they will get HRM with the GPS watches. Its hard for me to see which arguments should sell the GB580 in comparison to these.

Well, I'll take it for a ride tomorrow - It will be interesting to compare it to my GH625. I'll let you know how I did.

FirmWareIn the GB-580B I have received there must be a small error in the firmware. I have configured it to use Metric system, but the custom page 5 (have default 5 fields), field number 3 is showing "ascending speed". This is shown as "mph", but in my opinion it should show "km/h".

To me intuitive mean logical and efficient. IMO actual pattern is not. I'll explain whyI think side buttons are inverted from the first day I tried it.

A logical way of thinking is to put main access functions buttons the highest possible and the navigation button in the lower part of the device. So the importance of the buttons decrease from the top to the bottom.This is for the logical part.

For the efficiency part, IMO, you have to concentrate on a main button -ESC button-, have a secondary button -OK button- and the rest of the buttons. Like I said, the less you use different buttons for main functions, the more it become efficient.

So we end up with something like this.

As you realize it makes the device text inverted ( I applied mirror effect). So instead of remanufacturing everything you could send a front face sticker for girls and guys like me who prefer accessing main function by the top. But those who wish main function at the bottom could let it like it is...(without sticker).

I also put lap lap on esc button to be true to all gs-sport device and stays on the same logic. IMO split and escape buttons fit well together (in my head it's logic).

What do you think?

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Hi Canadian,

To group the keys regarding functionality is good idea and we are going to toward this direction. Just a question, to press ESC 2 seconds will turn off device. This is problem we can't group them.

FirmWareIn the GB-580B I have received there must be a small error in the firmware. I have configured it to use Metric system, but the custom page 5 (have default 5 fields), field number 3 is showing "ascending speed". This is shown as "mph", but in my opinion it should show "km/h".

Kind regardsTT

Hello TT,

Welcome to join us. The "mph" means meter per hour, it often use for height calculation.