quote:So what you're saying is that Chase Daniel > Dan Marino or Jim Kelley or Bert Jones or Y.A. Tittle? Rings are a team accomplishment and don't really mean anything individually; they can be hocked for drug money.

No, you're being too black and white about it.

I'm saying Peyton Manning> Marino. And the thing that really puts him above Marino is the one super bowl ring he has.

When you compare two players that are great (Not fricking backup qb's who are never going to start in the NFL) and you are looking at their careers. You've got comparable stats, one has more pro bowls and no super bowl rings and the other has a super bowl ring. The one with the ring gets the win.

I personally apply the rule to every position, not just QB's. shite Randy Moss has comparable stats to Jerry Rice. He's second in almost every category, except one of them won super bowls.

*I am, by no means making the argument that Moss>Rice, just using an example.

re: LSU Tiger who has had the most success in the NFLPosted by nitwit on 5/3/13 at 10:42 am to dnm3305

Maybe it's just me, but being on a roster of a team that wins a championship is not individual success. Don't forget, Johnny Robinson had nine All pro seasons, although this was in AFL days, in part. At the time, he was probably the best safety ever. As a result of this discussion, the guys who rise to the top of my list are: Winston Robinson Taylor Faneca Mawae The best single season by an fmr. LSU player would be Bert Jones in 1976; however his career QB % is something like 78.

quote:Johnny Robinson was All-AFL nearly his entire career, sits in the Chiefs' Hall of Fame and has a Super Bowl ring.

I cannot believe he isn't in the HOF. Jerry Stovall had a damn good career as a DB for the St. Louis Cardinals, but was overshadowed by Larry Wilson. I can't believe all these people picking Kevin Faulk over Jim Taylor, Van Buren, or Tittle though.