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Why does everybody forget about Kurt Thomas? I've been sayin it all offseason, dude can still ball. Its not like he was ever that athletic, he hasnt really lost anything because he didnt have much to lose. He just does a great job of positioning himself defensively and for rebounds and he can still knock down an open mid range jumpshot. 2 years ago with Chicago he made a difference for them almost every time he stepped on the court. He had an 18 rebound game when Noah was out, last year he had some good games with the Blazers. Didnt really get many minutes but was always productive with the minutes he had. Hes sorta like camby in the sense that he can come into the game and control the boards. Hes undeniably worthy of minutes

All I'm going to say is when the Lakers were rumored to have signed Sheed last season everyone said it was a great move.

Now I see the Knicks getting mocked for it.

Depends on how Sheed played - really the goal is to make sure if/when Tyson is in foul trouble we aren't totally exposed down low. Don't need Sheed to be a stud. Just need a competent 10-15 minutes per game.

Originally Posted by Knicksin60

Ignore the Curry, James, Francis, Jalen and Malik Rose deals & Isiah would be one of the top 5 gms .

Kiyaman could probably answer this with that total recall of his but how many guys 38 years old and out of the game for 2 years have made it back and contrbuted anything. Last guy I remember was Rod Strickland who the Rockets picked up at 36 who was out of the game for less than a season, he lasted for about 10 games before they released him.

The Knicks are going to have a few months to evaluate him but lets be real it's a long shot that he makes the team.

Kiyaman could probably answer this with that total recall of his but how many guys 38 years old and out of the game for 2 years have made it back and contrbuted anything. Last guy I remember was Rod Strickland who the Rockets picked up at 36 who was out of the game for less than a season, he lasted for about 10 games before they released him.

The Knicks are going to have a few months to evaluate him but lets be real it's a long shot that he makes the team.

all these bigs means posting up is going to be a problem then add in guys like Shump, Felton, Kidd, and Brewer on the perimeter and running the ball wont be easy too. I know these guys are old but they will run the system and if Woodson is a long term coach it will just be placeholders for the type of role players needed in the future. Melo and Amare mostly finesse style of play need a team of goons to keep opponents honest.

Also I will say this I wanna see shump and Wallace do some trash talking on one of these prima donna stars on a punk team like Brandon Jennings just get shut down and knocked out. Thats what I want... even if the knicks can't win it all every team should be like "damn the knicks aren't a joke" and have to work to beat them...

all these bigs means posting up is going to be a problem then add in guys like Shump, Felton, Kidd, and Brewer on the perimeter and running the ball wont be easy too. I know these guys are old but they will run the system and if Woodson is a long term coach it will just be placeholders for the type of role players needed in the future. Melo and Amare mostly finesse style of play need a team of goons to keep opponents honest.

Also I will say this I wanna see shump and Wallace do some trash talking on one of these prima donna stars on a punk team like Brandon Jennings just get shut down and knocked out. Thats what I want... even if the knicks can't win it all every team should be like "damn the knicks aren't a joke" and have to work to beat them...

I agree w the bit bout Melo n Amare being finesse players and needing all the manhandlers we can get.

Chandler and many of his teammates have been participating in informal workouts at the team’s practice facility. One additional set of eyes there this week has been Hall of Fame center Hakeem Olajuwon, who has been working with Chandler, Stoudemire and others on post moves.

Chandler said he’s already noticed a difference.

“They’re going great, man,” Chandler said. “I couldn’t ask for a better supporting cast. I couldn’t ask for a better big man to be on my side to work with than Hakeem, to work on moves and be supportive and encourage me and practice them.”

He said he has noticed a different feeling around the facility, as the players get ready for training camp to kick off Monday.

“It’s a feeling that you have before you win,” he said. “I’m excited about it.

At times Melo can be as physical as anyone else, when he plays his bully ball but in my opinion i wouldnt mind see him do more of that. The way i look at it, Lebron is the most physical SF, Melo's somewhere between Lebron and Durant. Durants the least physical of all them but his efficiency and team play makes him better then Melo. But with a few small tweaks, Melo can be on par with anyone

Actually, I gotta say World Peace is the most physical SF. Watch how he goes at Blake Griffin next time Lakers and Clippers play. Not so much offensively but defensively and the way he boxes out has me speechless. I remember he basically boxed out Blake Griff, had the dude pinned and easily grabbed the rebound. His strength at SF is on a level by itself, hes stronger then most players at any position in the game

At times Melo can be as physical as anyone else, when he plays his bully ball but in my opinion i wouldnt mind see him do more of that. The way i look at it, Lebron is the most physical SF, Melo's somewhere between Lebron and Durant. Durants the least physical of all them but his efficiency and team play makes him better then Melo. But with a few small tweaks, Melo can be on par with anyone

Actually, I gotta say World Peace is the most physical SF. Watch how he goes at Blake Griffin next time Lakers and Clippers play. Not so much offensively but defensively and the way he boxes out has me speechless. I remember he basically boxed out Blake Griff, had the dude pinned and easily grabbed the rebound. His strength at SF is on a level by itself, hes stronger then most players at any position in the game

Melo hasn't played bully ball in almost 4 years. When he was a slasher first and shooter second there was no man on earth who could stop him, once guys get a little jumper they cant stop shooting it. Look at Monta in 07-08, he shot 53% and when he got a jumper he shoots mediocre 43-45%. If we get SLASHING Melo (we wont) our team can go as far as they want, but Melo shooting us out of games wont get it done.

Sheed went out dropping a solid per 36, he can still be a factor. Maybe the time off has given him some restorative opportunity and now he can come in and drop the open trey, he can dish it sometimes off the key, he can give the attitude and bully the other team and he's good for 6 fouls. You can't beat that.

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