December 04, 2007

Andruw Jones in Sox's plans?

"He's in the mix, I guess," said Guillen, who raved about Jones when he played with him in Atlanta in 1998-99. "It's all about cash, years, something I don't get involved."

Jones provides a twist because he is represented by agent Scott Boras, with whom the Sox have had a tense relationship.

"A lot to people say Scott Boras is the best agent, and he is," Guillen said. "No (kidding). When you have all those kind of players, you'd be a good agent, too."

Guillen said he discussed Jones with Atlanta top talent evaluator Jim Fregosi.

"I think Andruw Jones is going to bounce back and have a good year, no matter whoever he plays for," Guillen said. "With all my respect to Torii Hunter, I don't see anyone better than that kid when I was playing with him."

Comments

Andruw's stock is down and would be worth taking a risk with him if we could get him for less than 4 years. I don't think he is worth the risk for 4 or more years. That being said, neither is Rowand for the monet he wants.

Didn't KW just say bring on the Tigers & Indians? Sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for. And now the other loudmouth saying that Jones is in the mix. So was Hunter! Really. Who would want to play for Ozzie & KW! These two guys make me sick. They should shut their mouths and just go about their business like most GM"s do.

My earlier comments are not going to be posted,so i decided to leave my anger aside towards Mr. Reinsdorf and Mr. williams. but I would like to know realistic what kind of expectations do they have with the current team? Where is the big free agent signing? Hunter gone! Cabrera gone! Jones soon gone! Rowand gone! C'mon take a look at the Tigers now, and compare to the Chisox, sad.

What a joke, if the Sox were to contend this year they needed huge upgrades in LF, CF, SS, 2B and the bullpen. What do they end up with while every other contender is stocking their cupboards? Two shortstops that one way or another will be gone in a year, a reclamation project left fielder and a national league reliever. It should be a great battle with K.C. for last place. Way to go Kenny!

Kenny, you had better get off of your backside and get things going. Andrew Jones is not the answer, and if Aaron Rowand is not, then you had better work some outstanding trades to get most of the fans off of your back.

You got owned by Dombrowski and the Tigers, Kenny. Now whatcha gonna do?

People please. Rowand is not worth it. Jones isn't going to help much, but he fits in with his sub .265 BA and homerun power. Personally we should get rid of thome, give dye the DH spot and focus on a fukodome/raul ibanez for right and give owens the full year in center. Let sweeney, anderson and quentin fight for left.

Assuming the Florida-Detroit deal is true (and ESPN News is reporting it as such)I think it’s time Kenny held a press conference and admitted that despite his best efforts there is little or no way the White Sox can “contend” in 2008.

I never in my life thought I’d ever say something like this but that’s the reality of things. Only a miraculous change of heart by ownership and an immediate spending spree could put the Sox in a position to challenge the American League’s ‘super’ teams...Boston, the Yankees, Los Angeles, Detroit and Cleveland.

Ozzie was quoted directly in September as saying he wasn’t going to be put in a position of “lying to the fans” about ‘contending’ in 2008. That is about to be put to the test.

I think the Sox will upset more of their fans by 'claiming to contend' in 2008 then they would if they would simply admit the reality of things and work to improve the situation in the near future.

If I’m Kenny I say I tried and that the Sox are now going to go about trying to acquire as much talent as possible at the major and minor league levels in the next two years and take another objective look at things in 2010.

This isn’t an “anti” Kenny rant, again I like the guy and his dedicated desire to win. He’s won a World Series title and that counts for a lot but it doesn’t ‘count’ forever. This isn’t all entirely his doing, he has to take orders too just like most of us so he’s not completely at “fault.”

It’s just extremely disappointing how two years removed from a championship, any hopes I had of a second Sox ‘golden age’ (the first being the time period from 1951 through 1967) are dashed on the rocky reefs of reality.

Kenny keep trying but dont reach on some of these players or contracts. Stick to bringing up kids in the minors then bag the whale. Atleast Kenny is working his tail off to bring a winner back to the south side.

Before White Sox Fans continue criticizing Kenny Williams, please consider the following three points. First, the White Sox had absolutely no one in their farm system who even approached the value of Andrew Miller and Cameron Maybin. There is no way that the White Sox could remotely compete with the Tigers' offer for Cabrera and Willis. Secondly, if Aaron Rowand gets five guaranteed years, God Bless him, but by year four the team who signed him will regret the final two years and probable $28 Million remaining on that contract. Simply put, Rowand is a very good, not great player, who probably enjoyed his career year last year and may have already lost a step in the outfield. His legend exceeds his true value. Third, buyer beware with Andruw Jones. Was last season a bad year or a trend? How many guaranteed years and dollars will a team risk toward finding out the potentially disastrous answer?

Spending spree? The free agent market ain't that hot, my man. They're going to have to TRADE for anything good, and if they trade what few (aging, past-their-peak) studs they have (Konerko, Pierzynski, Dye, Thome, etc...), they'll be right back at square one. They have no prospects to move! Who the hell wants Richar and/or Owens? The Sux are screwed ten ways to Tuesday. Give the Tigers their pennant now.

Detroit is a third world city compared with Chicago. Yet they are whipping Kenny's butt in the competition for talent. Their pitching staff, infield, outfield and catching staff are all considerably stronger than what the Sox have. Forget about contending with them or the Indians for the next several years. Time to play the kids and rebuild. Forget Rowand, Jones and certainly Coco Crisp. Just play Owens, Sweeney, Fields and see what they can do. Even the Twins will be better than the Sox in '08 because of the talent they will get for Santana. The Sox and the Royals should have an interesting time battling for last place. But that's what we get for making the wrong trades, giving the wrong guys extensions and failing to sign free agents the past couple of years.

We as fans have been lied to by Williams and Riensdork. We were told, fill the park and then they can go out and spend money on the team. For three years the Cell had record attendance. All Reinsdork has done has put that money in his pocket. He is stealing from the fans. This team will have there heads handed to them next year because of Reinsdork inability to get over his ego.

The season is over before it began. There is no reason to have optimism about this season. Implode this team and start the 88-year, or however it was to win the World Series, rebuilding project. Only in Chicago sports does it take forever to build a true contender. Detroit was the laughing stock of baseball a few years back, and it looks like they will be one of the favorites for years to come. I don't have a clue how the Sox won in 2005. Everyone else must have laid down for them.

you guys are idiots...kenny ruined our team traading away prospects in previous years and signing old players...rowand is a stud...his 515 slg, 317 avg, 27 homers, 89 rbis and the best defensive % at .995 of any nl center fielder...he is 30...tori is 32 we were gonna give him 5/75 mil...why can't we give rowand 5/70 or 5/65 he would take it no doubt...he want's to come back to chicago...what better guy is there for center...he has a high obp...rowand is the only hope for us sox fans now for a better lineup....you look at rowands upside on and off the field and what he does for the fans...kenny better do it or he will lose even more season tickets...he needs to bring more excitement....i love how people say career year...well it was for tori hunter as well and he played on turf his whole career and is 2 years older....if anyone has lost a step in center it is tori not rowand you guys are nuts!!!! best we can hope for is clevland and the tigers get some key injuries otherwise i am gonna be sitting at about 50-60 sox games really pissed off...and if i see kenny in the elevator i will let him know it...it is ridiculous how he has depleted our farm system and how his picks have sucked!!!!

kenny has said that they are not interested in Andruw beacuse of his high stike out totals, low obp, and inability to work deep counts. The only thing that makes sense here is that he adopted this philosophy yesterday beacuse his last few signings/aquisitions don't follow those ideas.

1A. Kenny, I hope you are pursuing Brian Roberts if he is available. He is an important piece to the Sox if we can land him for the lead-off spot. Would Baltimore take Broadway, Masset, Uribe, & Richar for him? If not, give them something else. Uribe can be their shortstop when they trade Tejada, Richar would replace Roberts and Broadway and Masset can step into their rotation right now. Do it if by any means possible.

2A. If you cannot land Roberts see if Orlando Hudson is available. I wonder what the D'Backs would like for him? That would give us a gold glove double play combination in Cabrera and Hudson (previous winner).