I really don't see how so many people can think that the I-phone will be cheaper than the nokia n-97? First off you probably going to have to fork out about £250 for the handset and still have to sign a £45+ per month contract for no less than a 24 month contract. That equates to roughly £1330 and thats beside making any calls. Well thats at least how it will pan out in the UK.

Tucks, 12 Jun 2009ITS NOT A CAMERAPHONE!!! it's a bloody smartphone, and anyway the lens qual is v. good. it has... moreSpeaking of thinking before you post, you wrote:

"Plus a high res camera would p*ss off alot of business users, and thats a massive market for the iphone."

Since when is business a massive market for the iphone? I'm a project manager and meet with a massive number of business users in my city, and I've seen one iphone in all of the meetings, which people automatically shunned. Blackberry is almost all that is used, and accepted.

Regardless of the ignorance of that part of the statement, why would a higher res camera piss off business users? They couldn't care less about whether the iphone 3Gs has a 3MP or 5MP camera.

Xoory, 12 Jun 2009I have to add
You said EVERY KIND of applications are available for S60???
I need facebook a... moreeven though you don't need additional application for facebook or any other kind in a symbian phone because symbian has full web browser that support both flash and java unlike the iphone

Tucks, 12 Jun 2009ITS NOT A CAMERAPHONE!!! it's a bloody smartphone, and anyway the lens qual is v. good. it has... moreMMS from the box!? WOW!!! I wish every other phone i've owned for the past 4 years had that.....

Autofocus? No WAY!!!! I wish every other phone i've owned for the past 4 years had that.....

And not one of them cost £200 more than the iPhone, yet they had significantly larger specs camera too.

You guys can say anything but i go for both sides, i been changing phones every 3 or 4 months since i was 18 or 19, i been through every brand you name it, Siemens, Nokia, SE, Palm, Motorola, HTC, LG, i even remember mi small Panasonic 55.
Symbian, Windows Mobile, Java, Safari, anything.
I was running a cellphone store with my best friend because it was the thing i enjoyed to do, every release it was like a new baby for us, we will play with it and talk about it for hours and then sell it...

I remember the first walkman phones that hold 512 mb or 1g.
Mi nokia 3300 hold 512 mb, and i still have it, my startac, just naming a few.

And now what? Last year i had my Omnia with 16g built in and a 16g sd card on it. (One of the best phones ever made, and the best Windows Mobile Yet, (In my opinion)

That's me, Erick Rosas 23 years old live in the US waiting for the good stuff to come, with a E71 on my hands with a front camera for video calls which i can't use because we don't have the technology to do so... (Stupid)

Man, iphone... new era, it changed the way we look at phones, thats true, even though i dont agree with all the iphone fans or freaks however you guys call it...

I was impressed when it was on my hands, playing with it was a pleasure, the super sensitive screen, it was something different, but nothing new though.
I mean my htc phone was far beyond the iphone capabilities, mms, 3.2 megapixel, 8 gigs capable, record video, bluetooth stereo, document viewer, web browser, and gps software built in, also cut & paste, everything you name it.
So far every brand go beyond the iphone in phone capabilities, and they do it better, mms? we had it what 5 years ago? cut and paste, probably 4? 3.2 camera? my C905 has 8 (I know its a cybershot but still... GPS built in? i think it was 2 years ago, video recording?? i dont remember but its been a while lol.

Anyways we can't talk bad or good about the iphone for life and sorry guys I'm a SE fan, then Nokia, but apple is been doing a great job, they gone beyond the brands we seen growing great for the past years, this race is not what phone has more features, is who's making more money....

Guess who's the winner, the apps are awesome, the games are unbelievable, and they're really useful, its just crazy ridiculous what's out there, and even though we still miss features on the iphone 3gs, dont worry they'll came on the right time, apple has to save something for the next iphone 3gsbs(bluetooth stereo), or 3gsvc(Video Call), what ever...

It's just amazing how apple plays with advertising in my country, and the sad part is that i know friends that spend all his paycheck on a stupid upgrade or having the 32g iphone when they only use 8 gigs the most.

It's like everybody must have one... go ahead guys throw your check on the new iphone 3gs and make apple richer by day, i know their sales are going to be great by the end of this month, but that's only because ignorant people fall for been cool.

I can keep going all day writing about it but thats it, i gotta pick up my new omnia hd and play with a real phone, feel free to throw your opinion at erickrosasrojas... gmail ...com

Peace out and good luck making line outside apple stores or att stores because lines are going to be long...

Tucks, 12 Jun 2009ITS NOT A CAMERAPHONE!!! it's a bloody smartphone, and anyway the lens qual is v. good. it has... moreStrange how the Omnia HD and N97 are also NOT A CAMERAPHONE, THEY ARE SMARTPHONES TOO ***HOWEVER!!!*** they do have decent specs without fleecing the consumer for them therefore you need to open your eyes to the real world!

Tucks, 12 Jun 2009ITS NOT A CAMERAPHONE!!! it's a bloody smartphone, and anyway the lens qual is v. good. it has... morehey man, i'm agree with you..
this is not a camera phone. this is just smart phone with improve camera. (it is also said did good job on low light * maybe cause there is no flash)
but whatever..
which phone could play such an interactive gameplay such as iphone
i mean, come on man..
it's just like you have smartphone, ipod, and nitendo DS at one...
IPHONE 3Gs is something..
=D

Xoory, 12 Jun 2009Now I'm sure you've never had an iPhone before... CONFESS
yes
iPhone is the best in all of t... moreThe fact that I've personaly seen over 10 000 Symbian apps ensures me of that there are plenty more. Do a research instead of blindly guessing some random numbers. And believe me, I haven't searched much for apps, and still I found that much. If I'd want, I'd find 100 times more...

Tucks, 12 Jun 2009ITS NOT A CAMERAPHONE!!! it's a bloody smartphone, and anyway the lens qual is v. good. it has... moreEach Iphone sold is about $400 in profit for Apple. I'm sure they could afford a better camera.

Ingrid, 12 Jun 2009No flash,
Only 3MP
Low resolution
Big upsetITS NOT A CAMERAPHONE!!! it's a bloody smartphone, and anyway the lens qual is v. good. it has autofocus aswell.

Its not all about the MP. Thats just how big you can blow the picture up.

Get a c905 if you want a cameraphone. Plus a high res camera would p*ss off alot of business users, and thats a massive market for the iphone. If you''re sending a picture through mms (from the box on 3gs!) and it's a high res 8mp snap, then it's going to be a bulky data transfer, thus incurring the reciever (if they haven't got a data package) a lovely big bill.

Also do you fancy paying £200 more for a high spec camera. Well i tell you most people won't. Thats bad business. Very bad businesss, and apple definhatley aren't about that.

as someone that works in the mobile industry at a retail level and has been taking pre-orders all day. the phone is diaper trash. dont get me wrong, i love my old iBook G4 to pieces i prefer Apple over MS anyday. but alot of you are right, the good and the bad. the phone is pretty damn powerful, but they have really missed the ball with this one, the only exceptional thing about the 3GS is the price.