Vancouver researcher finds flu shot is linked to H1N1 illness

Vancouver researcher finds flu shot is linked to H1N1 illness

A strange vaccine-related phenomenon spotted in Canada at the start of the 2009 flu pandemic may well have been real, a new study suggests.
people who got a flu shot for the 2008-09 winter seemed to be more likely to get infected with the pandemic virus than people who hadn't received a
flu shot.

Five studies done in several provinces showed the same unsettling results. But initially research outside Canada did not, and the effect was dismissed
as a "Canadian problem," a problem with the flu

At the end of the day I don't believe that corporations or govt. are using vaccines to depopulate the earth.

It's too much of a far-fetched theory for me to be honest.

What I do believe however is that vaccines are rushed, even more rushed as time goes by.
Every vaccine is more rushed than the last one.

To me that reminds me not of addressing an urgent matter, but it reminds me of a sales environment.

Just push it out so we can make money!

There's barely any quality assurance when vaccines get released.
It's like technology sales. Technology resellers for example always check the weather, because let's say an earthquake or tornado hits Florida, these
salespeople will call those companies wanting to sell APC(American power corporation) hardware, surge protectors, ups, power redundancy or even
generators.
It's making the best out of other people's situation.
But in many cases those sellers actually are helping those companies out.

Well I can't say I'm surprised, being a nurse in Ontario we have had quite a few in-patients diagnosed with H1N1 who HAVE had they're flu vaccines
that year (2009 I believe).

Personally I have only had the vaccine once in my first year in nursing (8yrs ago) and felt sick all year. I have never had it since then and have
never gotten the flu. It's all about proper hand hygiene. Ive always had a feeling that the flu shot was going to turn out (in the long run) as
some sort of population control once the government has intrusted most of North Americans to take it. But I may be wrong, I guess watching Jesse
Ventura's Conpiracy Theory wasn't a very good idea

H1N1 was a pretty bad virus. What happens when our health care system/Goverment screw up again and inject us with something more deadly? "by
accident" of course....

These Viruses has made everyone paranoid, then these people call us skeptics paranoid

All those hand sanitizers..... those kill your bad AND GOOD germs
But they are everywhere, in malls, at the workplace in shopping center hallways....everywhere!
And people use it addictively because of paranoia and because it's free.

I never use them, I just wash my hands with Neem soap, water and friction!

Through my own personal observations I have always noticed that it's the people who get the flu shot who end up getting the flu. I never get them
and never get sick. I see people lined up to get their yearly flu shot and can't help but chuckle.

I have had vaccinations as a child, but I'm not sure if I ever got the flu shot but I do know that I have had horrible reactions to every single
vaccination I have ever received except for tetanus which I'm due for soon...don't know if I will get it though.

My children are all instructed if they ever try to force them in school, to run home right away They are instructed to do so if they were ever taken
away as well. I would never yield to the system and they are old enough to choose in a court of law where they wish to be, even the youngest. They
are told to come home, escape if needed.

I took a lot of heat for not getting my very young daughter the flu shot. She got the flu that year, and so did I. She coughed for a day or two and
I ended up in the hospital.

I had some big stress that year and my immune system wasn't up to par, but her's sure was. The thing is now she is immune to the H1N1 (and we know
immunity to one strain often gives you immunity to others) without having had a shot.

My children are all instructed if they ever try to force them in school, to run home right away They are instructed to do so if they were ever taken
away as well. I would never yield to the system and they are old enough to choose in a court of law where they wish to be, even the youngest. They
are told to come home, escape if needed.

What I'm more worried about is peer pressure.

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Dont make me start on schools

but just a hint : you give your kids more education then all the schools combined
im sure you already knew that

Not sure if you have read about the Lyme disease vaccine and its controversy. I heard they are thinking about bringing it back. I dont think it was
to the US though. Maybe UK?

That was totally rushed through and even after they had complaints, they kept on giving it ... dumb decision.

Many also think the CDC/IDSA wrote their guidelines to reflect a positive result that did not iinclude the 2 bands very specific for Lyme (Borrelia
burgdorferi) because it would then make the test useless in anyone who got the vaccine.

They also knew certain people who had a specific gene or protein (excuse my memory) WOULD get reactions from it.

Excrutiating concept. It's rather sad that a good 70% to 90% of all vaccines and treatments are milled away into food for livestock (I am guessing
it's to leave food for surviving parties).

H1N1 hit (i beleive the 30's) in the US and some bright spark used prison inmates to test a vax. The inmates had survived a mild 'natural' bout of
the disease only a matter of weeks earlier but when they had voluntarily signed for vax testing in return for early parole, they had signed up to
have:

Throats swabbed with tissue from the dead.

Infectious aerosols sprayed into their mouths.

The 'gravely ill' induced to a coughing fit in their faces.

The ironic bit here is...

The prisoners were fine, the doctor died swiftly from it in the same hospital whilst waiting to draw a conclusion on his tests.

This seems to me that whatever we are doing in labs to synthesize the vax we are doing it wrong. Predominantely effecting the young and elderly
alike.

But as the Pharms market goes, its easier to pump out anti depressants for our whole lives than a one-time cure for a chronic disease (there is no
longterm money in that).

I told the pharmacist who was up-selling that I didn't want a flu shot. I told him that I had talked to people who got it and then got the flu. He
said that's true. He said they're no longer using live virus, so it's now OK. So, it appears people who are paranoid of the flu shot have good
reason. I still say, bring it on. If I can't fight the flu, I haven't been taking care of myself.

I had to become a tradesman after I finished my training in sales, marketing and behavioural psychologies (social engineering), I couldn't keep going
to bed wondering if the product was any good for the poor recipient I had just force fed into liking the idea, (new phones, security systems, nick
nacks that hold stuff for you while you drive etc).

Drugs are no different and its sounds like the Dr is employing some of those same devices I personally would have used to make a sale.

'We had an issue, but not anymore' (so there was clearly something wrong). But hey telling people the truth won't help pay for a mercedes.

That's why I don't drive,
I used to have an opinion, a big mouth and a nice car,
instead now I can sleep at night and I have friends.

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