How do you pala's feel in this patch survivability vise? Our paladin, with haste build, who was easy to keep up/heal, got complaints from healers that after the patch he is harder to keep up. Raid type last night: 10-man normal up to Iron Qon.

He said that he feels that he should take more of defensive stats now on, rather than DPS ones.

How do you pala's feel in this patch survivability vise? Our paladin, with haste build, who was easy to keep up/heal, got complaints from healers that after the patch he is harder to keep up. Raid type last night: 10-man normal up to Iron Qon.

He said that he feels that he should take more of defensive stats now on, rather than DPS ones.

Anecdotal evidence != evidence.

The only thing that changed about prot paladins in the last patch is ShoR being hit by a 5% nerf, and that change should be almost invisible.

Tbh I assume that dodge/parry/block are defensive stats... As mastery is more healing self. But as I said... I have never played prot thus I don't know much what is needed or not.

And he used str. gems to get more DPS out. Even with his present setup, he has aggro issues when I am OTing (and we just don't have that much DPS to go around, so I could slack and stop DPS x_x). This is our post-patch run. And this was one of our previous attempts before patch. Has really something changed or is the druid healer's issue?

Tbh I assume that dodge/parry/block are defensive stats... As mastery is more healing self.

He won't be using WoG much if at all (or shouldn't be) so the mastery for more self healing really isn't a thing. Dodge and Parry are great for reducing damage but really isn't the route you want to go down, damage will get spiky. Block comes from mastery but a better uptime of SHOTR will beat more regular blocks in term of reduced damage.

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So... Ralador . If I understood correctly he needs more haste and instead of str. gems he should be using exp. haste ones? Well the expertise/haste gems would IDD allow him to reforge possible more haste.

So... Ralador . If I understood correctly he needs more haste and instead of str. gems he should be using exp. haste ones? Well the expertise/haste gems would IDD allow him to reforge possible more haste.

Haste is the Prot Paladins way of doing more DPS. More haste means lower GCD, lower Spell CDs and that in terms translates to more spells used - especially more SOTR used. More SoTR used translates to better damage mitigation. He will also have faster autoattacks and more SS proccs which translate to better self healing.

So yes, he should aim for 7.5 hit / 15 exp / rest goes into haste. Use hit/haste - exp/haste - haste gems. Nothing else. Go for set boni that award haste/stam or lots of str. otherwise skip them and sockel haste.

He also needs to fix his SS uptime - that's abit low (70ish). Needs to be 95ish.

Also, hes hardly ever using CDs like Divine Protection (1 on Ji-Kun) or Ardent Defender (0 on Ji-Kun) or Hand of Purity (0 on Ji-Kun) or Devotion Aura (1 on Ji-Kun).
He only used WoG once (which usually is no big deal). Problem is, he died on Ji-Kun due to Damage-Intake.

He really needs to step up his game. No wonder your healers are complaining.

Looks like he needs new bracers and helm, his current ones are pretty awful. He needs to swap metas if he is concerned about dmg, the tanking one is pretty weak considering our AM is twice as strong and is controllable. Expertise gemming is superior to strength since it frees him up to reforge more into haste, also would suggest using only hit/haste in blue sockets instead of hit/stam. I'm not too up to date on weapon enchants for prot pally but elemental force seems to be an odd choice. Tier helm or helm off Lei Shen would be best for replacing his current one, I think helm off Lei Shen might be slightly better due to the 180 str socket bonus versus the 180 parry on the tier.

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