(I posted this here because I wasn't too sure about which section this topic would fall under.)

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There is no more evident sign that anyone is a saint and of the number of the elect, than to see him leading a good life and at the same time a prey to desolation, suffering, and trials. - Saint Aloysius Gonzaga

Legend has it that there is actually a practical reason for it. Santiago de Compostela (the Cathedral of St. James) is the destination of a famous Catholic pilgrimage which was done on foot over many weeks or even months. The Cathedral Mass was therefore full of smelly pilgrims who had walked long distances, and the censer was designed to mask the smell.

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If you're living a happy life as a Christian, you're doing something wrong.

It's the most stupid and idiotic thing i've ever seen....Plus a accident thats just waiting to happen.....

Its a sensible idea.. Big church, big censor. But it did look like an accident was around the corner. In that case, it is idiotic.

A coal could have flew out of it and burned someone

The music with the organ is what's the real accident.

That's your opinion since it's not part of the tradition you now belong to.

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There is no more evident sign that anyone is a saint and of the number of the elect, than to see him leading a good life and at the same time a prey to desolation, suffering, and trials. - Saint Aloysius Gonzaga

(I posted this here because I wasn't too sure about which section this topic would fall under.)

Awesome! I had a chance to make incense a few times and I think the more incense the better.

Thanks for sharing!

In Christ,Andrew

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"I will pour out my prayer unto the Lord, and to Him will I proclaim my grief; for with evils my soul is filled, and my life unto hades hath drawn nigh, and like Jonah I will pray: From corruption raise me up, O God." -Ode VI, Irmos of the Supplicatory Canon to the Theotokos

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who can watch the watchmen?"No one is paying attention to your post reports"Why do posters that claim to have me blocked keep sending me pms and responding to my posts? That makes no sense.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who can watch the watchmen?"No one is paying attention to your post reports"Why do posters that claim to have me blocked keep sending me pms and responding to my posts? That makes no sense.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who can watch the watchmen?"No one is paying attention to your post reports"Why do posters that claim to have me blocked keep sending me pms and responding to my posts? That makes no sense.

As I understand it, the remnants of the Ambrosian Rite of the Roman Church are practiced only in Milan and date back to pre-schism times. ITSM that there is nothing inherently 'wrong' in accepting that the unified pre-schism Church was no more monolithic and ritually universal than is the Orthodox Church today. In all likelihood, given the absence of mass communication and the distances which were involved across the known western world at that time, the unified, pre-schism Church was likely even more diverse than what we have today.

There is no more evident sign that anyone is a saint and of the number of the elect, than to see him leading a good life and at the same time a prey to desolation, suffering, and trials. - Saint Aloysius Gonzaga

Question a friend, perhaps he did not do it; but if he did anything so that he may do it no more.A hasty quarrel kindles fire,and urgent strife sheds blood.If you blow on a spark, it will glow;if you spit on it, it will be put out; and both come out of your mouth

There is no more evident sign that anyone is a saint and of the number of the elect, than to see him leading a good life and at the same time a prey to desolation, suffering, and trials. - Saint Aloysius Gonzaga

1) the object is in a church used for the worship of God.2) the object is intentionally placed in the church.3) the object is ritually destroyed in the church it was intentionally placed it.4) the ritual is one in which God is worshipped.5) the object is burned in the ritual.

1) the object is in a church used for the worship of God.2) the object is intentionally placed in the church.3) the object is ritually destroyed in the church it was intentionally placed it.4) the ritual is one in which God is worshipped.5) the object is burned in the ritual.

Yes, it looks like a fiery sacrifice to me.

What do you propose it is?

Does that also apply to candles and incense? Both are burned inside a church and in church rituals in which God is worshipped. If it were truly a sacrifice, wouldn't you say it should be placed upon the altar? I think it's a silly accusation.

Brief explanation translated by Google:

The ancient rite of the lighthouse

the ritual of "lighthouse", a ritual that is rarely possible to see in our churches. Its origin is very old (has vanished in the seventh century). It is normally carried out within the Church but the beautiful day that has allowed the rite and the liturgical celebration should be held in the churchyard. This rite is celebrated on the feast of the patron and only if the patron saint is a martyr. The origin and meaning of the ritual are uncertain but may be an allegorical allusion to the sacrifice of life of the saint martyr for the Church. The fire burns and burns the globe as the holy martyr, burning with faith, burned in martyrdom for the Faith. The globe or "lighthouse", covered with cotton, was burned in the churchyard. A curiosity for those wishing to see such a rite celebrated as tradition within the Church. The rite of the lighthouse, according to the Ambrosian rite, is celebrated in the Cathedral of Milan on the occasion of Santa Tecla, patroness of the parish of the cathedral.

There is no more evident sign that anyone is a saint and of the number of the elect, than to see him leading a good life and at the same time a prey to desolation, suffering, and trials. - Saint Aloysius Gonzaga

1) the object is in a church used for the worship of God.2) the object is intentionally placed in the church.3) the object is ritually destroyed in the church it was intentionally placed it.4) the ritual is one in which God is worshipped.5) the object is burned in the ritual.

Yes, it looks like a fiery sacrifice to me.

What do you propose it is?

Does that also apply to candles and incense? Both are burned inside a church and in church rituals in which God is worshipped. If it were truly a sacrifice, wouldn't you say it should be placed upon the altar? I think it's a silly accusation.

Brief explanation translated by Google:

The ancient rite of the lighthouse

the ritual of "lighthouse", a ritual that is rarely possible to see in our churches. Its origin is very old (has vanished in the seventh century). It is normally carried out within the Church but the beautiful day that has allowed the rite and the liturgical celebration should be held in the churchyard. This rite is celebrated on the feast of the patron and only if the patron saint is a martyr. The origin and meaning of the ritual are uncertain but may be an allegorical allusion to the sacrifice of life of the saint martyr for the Church. The fire burns and burns the globe as the holy martyr, burning with faith, burned in martyrdom for the Faith. The globe or "lighthouse", covered with cotton, was burned in the churchyard. A curiosity for those wishing to see such a rite celebrated as tradition within the Church. The rite of the lighthouse, according to the Ambrosian rite, is celebrated in the Cathedral of Milan on the occasion of Santa Tecla, patroness of the parish of the cathedral.

FatherGiryus, I guess that was my misunderstanding. I imagined something else when you said "sacrificial."

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There is no more evident sign that anyone is a saint and of the number of the elect, than to see him leading a good life and at the same time a prey to desolation, suffering, and trials. - Saint Aloysius Gonzaga