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Man of the Match Awards and ..... Afridi.

A few keyboard-cricket-experts on PP bash Afridi for not being either a bowler or a batsman.... and not contributing to the Pakistan wins as much as other players do........ well, I got a little shock for them. Are you guys ready?

Man of the Series awards in T20 Matches:
Only player to get T20 Man of the Series Award more than once!

Warning to all the deniers:
Before you guys start bashing me, accusing me of blind lover, start jumping up and down, start banging your head against the wall, foam start to flow from your mouth...... please... please .... keep in mind;
1) Following are just stats from Cricinfo. I am just posting them without any opinion.

2) .... and before you impose your opinion over the facts from Cricinfo, also keep in mind that Man of the Match are generally selected by a ex-cricketers, cricket journalists and other cricket experts.

i always look forward to your posts w63, nice work, but i think you miss the reason why so many people are annoyed with afridi, well me at least. its not that he has not contributed, he was instrumental in t20 2009, its that had he used his brain a bit more, and made better use of his batting talents, imagine how much greater influence he could have had on pakistani results.

conversely he has worked hard on his bowling, and become a far more potent bowler then his talent would suggest, he has leggies that dont spin much, a straigter one, and sometimes a quick one, yet his t20 and to some extent odi bowling feats are quite impressive.

This just illustrates his potential. Look at the names in that list above him and even underneath him. This guy had the chance to be one of the finest all-rounders to grace the sport, instead he's just another all-rounder in the large scheme of things.

These stats demonstrate the effect Afridi can have on a game. When he gets going he will surely alter the match in favour of Pakistan. Sadly, he tends to get going here and there with a lot of mediocrity in between.

Great work W63. It shows that Afridi has the ability to get it done but as some of the posters hve already noted above he could have had so many more MOM beside his name if he had leanred to show more judgement while playing.

Another surprize for me in the list is YK, while he gets bashed for not being ODI player his ratio of 6.70 puts him over MoYo and Inzi....quite surprizing. Also, shows when he gets going he produces a match winner as well.

Against Pakistan: 7
Against Australia: 12
Against South Africa: 5
Against NZ: 6
Against Sri Lanka: 6
Against England:2
Zimbabwe:8
West Indies :9

So Tendulkar has 17 Man of the Match award against SA/Australia while Afridi has just 2 , clearly shows what a big minnow Basher Afridi is, raises his performance only against Bangladesh , Zimbabwe or once in while against Phaasht Indian bowlers.

Against Pakistan: 7
Against Australia: 12
Against South Africa: 5
Against NZ: 6
Against Sri Lanka: 6
Against England:2
Zimbabwe:8
West Indies :9

So Tendulkar has 19 Man of the Match award against SA/Australia while Afridi has just 2 , clearly shows what a big minnow Basher Afridi is

Not that I want to turn this thread into Sachin vs Afridi ... because ... but.. everybody has bashed minnows of their choice when they got a chance....specially the 2nd highest scorer in ODIs against minnows;

Not that I want to turn this thread into Sachin vs Afridi ... because ... but.. everybody has bashed minnows of their choice when they got a chance....specially the 2nd highest scorer in ODIs against minnows;

I dont know whats the need to show these stats since its known that most of Players including Tendulkar , Afridi , Lara have bashed the minnows in their careers.

But these guys have put performances and won awards against stronger teams such as Australia and South Africa as well, so why is Afridi lagging so behind in there comparison?

Just one MoM award against Australia for Afridi in 38 Odis that too was for bowling in UAE

Unfair to bring up Afridi's Test record. Dude's retired from the format and has played 1 Test in the last 5 years. Though I have to admit, after his initial promise (5fer vs Aus on debut, century vs India in Test #2) and even the renewed hopes in 05-06, it is extremely disappointing to see how his Test career turned out to amount to nothing eventually.

you are running away from the point once again , Tendulkar has 17 MOM award against Aus/SA along with minnow bashing, but Afridi looks just a silly minnow basher with 9 MOM awards against Zimbabwe/Bangladesh/Holland/Kenya and no significant contribution against top teams

interesting stats Not trying to jump on the Afridi bashing band wagon but the stats dont paint the full picture. Those MOM performances were probably the ONLY time Afridi contributed significantly towards the team's victory. You don't often see Afridi scoring good 30s and 40s on a consistent basis. Its either a quick fire 50 or a golden duck so to speak.
His bowling has been quite handy though. I'll give him that much.
Would be interesting to see the #MOM awards he won on his bowling alone...

you are running away from the point once again , Tendulkar has 17 MOM award against Aus/SA along with minnow bashing, but Afridi looks just a silly minnow basher with 9 MOM awards against Zimbabwe/Bangladesh/Holland/Kenya and no significant contribution against top teams

Look at the OP's last statsguru screenshot. Tendulkar is at #1 with almost double the percentage of ODI MoTM awards won by Afridi, who is at #22. Don't think the OP was suggesting he's better than Tendulkar.

Look at the OP's last statsguru screenshot. Tendulkar is at #1 with almost double the percentage of ODI MoTM awards won by Afridi, who is at #22. Don't think the OP was suggesting he's better than Tendulkar.

Thanks SK!

They conveniently ignored this comment in OP... or they just need to see an eye doctor!
"Anybody noticed the names below Afridi in all 3 lists?"

Dont understand what exactly is the reason for this thread. No one in his right mind would leave Afridi out of T20 team. His 15ball 25 cameo is really usefull in T20 games. We all know that.

This thread also proves that Afridi is a minnow basher when it comes to ODI (I am not including test here as anyway he has not played test cricket much). His record against minnows is as good as any top allrounders, both batting and bowling. But against top teams, as bad as any tail ender or 6th bowler in the team.

They conveniently ignored this comment in OP... or they just need to see an eye doctor!
"Anybody noticed the names below Afridi in all 3 lists?"

But they had to pick the players above him...... .

Btw, do you maintain your own database or do use StatsGuru exclusively? Might've asked you this in an earlier thread, but if you know of any databases that keep more info or even the same but at least let you run your own SQL queries, do share them.

A few keyboard-cricket-experts on PP bash Afridi for not being either a bowler or a batsman.... and not contributing to the Pakistan wins as much as other players do........ well, I got a little shock for them. Are you guys ready?

Man of the Series awards in T20 Matches:
Only player to get T20 Man of the Series Award more than once!

Man of the match awards in T20 Matches:
(Qual: 20 or more T20 matches).

Man of the match awards for Pakistani ODI Players:
(Qual: 200 or more ODIs).

Btw, do you maintain your own database or do use StatsGuru exclusively? Might've asked you this in an earlier thread, but if you know of any databases that keep more info or even the same but at least let you run your own SQL queries, do share them.

I use Statsguru from Cricinfo exclusively and then put the lists in a to massage the data. I would love to but don't have my own database!

Miandad was a real champ. Any captain would like to have a player like him in his team. Real fighter. He gets so much respect whenever he comes to India. Unlike Afridi..He doesn't get any respect in any of the other countries. People just laugh at him.

Yeah, I'm interested in seeing what things would look like if you change the criteria to 150 matches.

Btw, even if you bring your criteria down to a 100 ODIs, Misbah doesn't qualify. I thought this was an interesting stat: Darren Sammy, Peter Borren (Netherlands) & Will Porterfield (Ireland) are the only WC captains who have played fewer ODI innings than Misbah. (Sammy 32, Borren 33, Porterfield 44).

[Didn't mean to turn this into another Misbah/Afridi comparison, just wanted to point out that that's why you don't see Misbah's name feature on this list, and not because he hasn't won any MoTM awards.]

Miandad was a real champ. Any captain would like to have a player like him in his team. Real fighter. He gets so much respect whenever he comes to India. Unlike Afridi..He doesn't get any respect in any of the other countries. People just laugh at him.

How old were you when 1996 WC Q-Final was played in Bangalore and Miandad was fielding at the boundry?

..and you must also not know how Indians took his son's wedding to that guy in Dubai!

Originally Posted by cricketfan2010

Unlike Afridi..He doesn't get any respect in any of the other countries. People just laugh at him.

Show me one laughing ..... or even smiling face among these 50/60 thousand fans!