There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge. Isaac Asimov

So the problem here is not to find the monstrous Yahweh at fault. That has no point. It's to realise that the original deal is a fake - there are no gods.

Nonetheless, I respect the awfulness of the drama for the believers involved. They had the data and they held back from drawing the right conclusion. But it's true that if they did, not only would their life narratives have been rendered worthless, but nothing about their circumstances would have changed on account of their comprehending the truth.

Fascinating.Have you started any threads using this in the Christian or Jewish debate areas on B'net?

I generally avoid the theist debating areas. Repost it there if you like. I haven't see the entire film, although I would be interested in seeing it.

The reason why I posted it here was because it has been frequently put to us here by theists that without God there would be no morality in the world - that God is the arbiter and source of morality. The extremity of the situation for the protagonists in the clip has forced them to question the character of the god they believe in, without quite getting to the conclusion that God doesn't exist.

The Holocaust was and is a problem for theists. How could a moral "god" allow such a thing to take place?