There are several possibilities for the genealogies of
this branch of our family, and these possibilities require different birth
years. I have assigned the shorthand notation "MS" for that John Gill
who removed to Mississippi from South Carolina, and "MS-1" for that John
Gill one generation back from him, his father. Many of these records
are ambiguous as to which generation they belong. If you have clues
to which they may be assigned and which not, please
send them.

Records and conjectureDAR Applications Under John Gill born
c1733 There are a series of accepted DAR applications under John
Gill bc1733 (some state ca1730) married Mary Jackson, but no documentary
proof nor logic for the assignment or dates was to be found in the supporting
documents file in the DAR National Library in Washington, D.C. It may
be that better documentation could be found in the local chapter of the initial
applicant, which would be #638260, I believe. It may also be that the
original DAR applicants had additional data or knowledge, perhaps a Bible
birth year, and this documentation may be in the local DAR chapter supporting
documents file. DAR application 638260-A654 (supplement A654 added onto the
existing DAR application 638260) was filed by Faraba Elizabeth Price Jones
in 1985, through John Gill, I's, daughter Mary Gill who married John B. Hart,
and states that the wife of John Gill, I, or MS-1, who was the mother of
Mary Gill was in fact Mary Jackson. Mrs. Jones resided in 1985 in Pt. Gibson,
Mississippi. I wrote a letter to her in 1992 which was unanswered and unreturned.
In this application, A654, which is an addendum to the original, 638260,
it is stated that John Gill, born ca1730 perhaps in Virginia died after 17
Feb. 1785 in SC. This application gets honors for asserting Virginia instead
of using the mariner connection. This application states that daughter Mary
Gill born ca1758 in Richland Dist., SC, died in Lawrence Co., MS ca1820,
married before 1787 in SC to John Bryan Hart born ca1760 in New Bern, NC,
died in Lawrence Co., MS before December 1822. This DAR application went
against the tides of both Cupit and Andrea, and was clearly correct. I also
note that the dates in this DAR application are consistent with all extant
documentation quoted herein. Mrs. Lucy Gill Price was adamant that John Gill,
MS-1, born c1733, was married to Mary Ward, and that Mary Ward was one
fourth Indian. She may have been the second wife of John Gill born c1733,
or the first wife of the John Gill married Agnes Dick if the more recent
dates obtain option 2, and the one I have chosen as most likely), or in fact,
John Gill, I, born c1733, may have successively married: Mary Jackson,
Mary Ward, and Agnes Dick. The last possibility then leaves the John Gill
in Peyer im Hoff's company unassigned, and the oral traditions of revolutionary
war service indicate that a record should exist. He is stated to "have been
married many times." Wards lived adjacent to the Richland Gills and some
of both removed to Barnwell (Allendale). The Father of the Mississippi John
Gill is denoted as John Gill, MS-1. There is no documentation that John
Gill born c1733 is John Gill, I, (MS-1) of the Mississippi records, although
the DAR record above asserts that they are the same. The difficulty lies
is the ambiguity in birth year of John Gill, I, (MS-1), c1733 or c1754. Early
family records stated c1733.

However, Mr.
John
Cupitoverwrote many of his records by hand, changing
the c1733 to c1754, a generation later. I think it is clear from the documents
sent to me by Mrs. Evalyn Gill, that Cupit himself overwrote the dates, as
at least one of his later manuscripts has the later dates typewritten. Basically
this problem may be summed up by stating that there is a
generational
ambiguity in these records. Tit for
tat, DAR application 678003 of Mrs. Marva Lee Kyzar Reeves of Bogue Chitto,
MS, crossed out Cupit's typed 1773 birth date for John Gill, II (MS) and
hand wrote 1754 (DAR supporting documents file, Washington, D.C.), precisely
the inverse of Mr. Cupit! In Cupit's papers, the following records are found:
In "Gills Claimed by Lucie Gill Price to be Her Ancestors", Mrs. Kate Gill
Elam did not assign a date for this man, but in one, "Uriah Gill Family",
"as compiled by Mrs. Kate Elam", she states that John Gill, II, (MS) was
born during the Revolutionary War. Mrs. Lucie Gill Price, in "Gills Claimed
by Lucie Price to be Her Ancestors," claimed a 1733 date for John Gill MS-1.
The First John Gill, John Gill, MS-1, could have been any of four identifiable
John Gills: (1) John Gill born c1733 married Mary Jackson, (2) John Gill
in Peyer im Hoff's company, (3) John Gill married Agnes Dick, or (4) John
Gill of Barnwell.

Peyer im Hoff's company was
preponderantly from Fairfield Co., a known location of John Gill married
to Agnes Dick. Therefore, those two are probably the same. If John Gill,
MS-1, was born as early as c1733, he could only be the John Gill who married
Mary Jackson. If John Gill, MS-1 was in fact born as late as 1754, then he
probably was the John Gill in Peyer im Hoff's company, whom, evidence favors
as being the same John Gill who married to Agnes Dick. In turn, the only
possible assignment of John Gill (signed his name) married to Agnes Dick
is the son of John Gill born c1733. At this moment, they may be linked to
John Gill, MS-1, in three ways: (1) two of the known children of Agnes Dick
match the names of children stated as those of John Gill, MS-1, (2) this
is the only known unassigned revolutionary war record, and (3) this assignment
provides a "missing generation" which resolves the issue of the dates. If
I adopt for the sake of discussion option (2), that John Gill, MS-1 was that
John Gill who married Agnes Dick, then we may perhaps assign the following
children:

{the above permits assignment of every line identified in Richland Co., SC}
There are other variants of possibilities for
this family which seem to fit the data less well.