AP FACT CHECK: Trump's economic mirage; Sanders on Medicare

In this Aug. 9, 2018, photo, resident Donald Trump speaks during a meeting with state leaders about prison reform at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J.

In this Aug. 9, 2018, photo, resident Donald Trump speaks during a meeting with state leaders about prison reform at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J.

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AP FACT CHECK: Trump's economic mirage; Sanders on Medicare

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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is pulling numbers out of thin air when it comes to the economy, jobs and the deficit.

He refers to a current record-breaking gross domestic product for the U.S. where none exists and predicts a blockbuster 5 percent annual growth rate in the current quarter that hardly any economist sees. Hailing his trade policies in spite of fears of damage from the escalating trade disputes he's provoked, Trump also falsely declares that his tariffs on foreign goods will help erase $21 trillion in national debt. The numbers don't even come close.

The statements capped a week of grandiose and erroneous claims by Trump and his critics, including questionable rhetoric from Sen. Bernie Sanders that his "Medicare for all" plan would reduce U.S. health spending by $2 trillion.

A sampling of the statements, and the reality behind them:

ECONOMY AND JOBS

TRUMP: "Economic growth, last quarter, hit the 4.1. We anticipate this next quarter to be — this is just an estimate, but already they're saying it could be in the fives." — remarks Tuesday before a group of business executives.

THE FACTS: No. These are the latest in a string of exaggerated claims that Trump has made about the U.S. economy.

While economists are generally optimistic about growth, very few anticipate the economy will expand at a 5 percent annual rate in the July-September quarter the president referred to. Macroeconomic Advisers, a consulting firm in St. Louis, forecasts 3.2 percent growth in the third quarter. JPMorgan Chase economists have penciled in 3.5 percent. The Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta pegs it at 4.3 percent.

Whatever the final number turns out to be, none of these figures represents record or close-to-record growth for gross domestic product, the broadest measure of the nation's output. The 4.1 percent growth in the second quarter was simply the most since 2014.

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TRUMP: "We've created 3.9 million more jobs since Election Day — so almost 4 million jobs — which is unthinkable." — remarks Thursday at prison reform event in Bedminster, N.J.

THE FACTS: It's not that unthinkable, since more jobs were created in the same period before the November 2016 election than afterward.

It's true that in the 20 months since Trump's election, the economy has generated 3.9 million jobs. In the 20 months before his election, however, employers added 4.3 million jobs.

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TRUMP: "Great financial numbers being announced on an almost daily basis. Economy has never been better, jobs at best point in history." — tweet Monday.

THE FACTS: He's exaggerating. The economy is healthy now, but it has been in better shape at many times in the past.

Growth reached 4.1 percent at an annual rate in the second quarter, which Trump highlighted late last month with remarks at the White House. But it's only the best in the past four years. So far, the economy is expanding at a modest rate compared with previous economic expansions. In the late 1990s, growth topped 4 percent for four straight years, from 1997 through 2000. And in the 1980s expansion, growth even reached 7.2 percent in 1984.

It's not clear what Trump specifically means when he declares that jobs are at the "best point in history," but based on several indicators, he's off the mark.

The unemployment rate of 3.9 percent is not at the best point ever — it is actually near the lowest in 18 years. The all-time low came in 1953, when unemployment fell to 2.5 percent during the Korean War. And while economists have been surprised to see employers add 215,000 jobs a month this year, a healthy increase, employers in fact added jobs at a faster pace in 2014 and 2015. A greater percentage of Americans held jobs in 2000 than now.

Trump didn't mention probably the most important measure of economic health for Americans — wages. While paychecks are slowly grinding higher, inflation is now canceling out the gains. Lifted by higher gasoline prices, consumer prices increased 2.9 percent in June from a year earlier, the most in six years.

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TARIFFS AND THE DEFICIT

TRUMP: "Because of Tariffs we will be able to start paying down large amounts of the $21 Trillion in debt that has been accumulated, much by the Obama Administration, while at the same time reducing taxes for our people." — tweet Sunday.

THE FACTS: This isn't going to happen.

The Treasury Department estimates that all tariffs currently in place will raise about $40 billion in revenue in the 2018 budget year, which ends Sept. 30. Even with the recent tariff increases Trump has implemented or threatened to put in place, it clearly wouldn't be enough to reduce the $21 trillion national debt. It's just 5 percent of what the president would need to eliminate the annual budget deficit of $804 billion that the Congressional Budget Office predicts for this year. The national debt represents the accumulation of all the annual deficits.

The president seems to believe that foreigners pay tariffs, but they are import taxes paid for by American businesses and consumers. They may make it harder for other countries to sell things in the United States, but they are just another form of tax and do not result in lower taxes for the American people overall.

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FOOD STAMPS

TRUMP: "Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps — that's since the election. ... That's some number. That's a big number." — Ohio rally on Aug. 4.

TRUMP: "More than 3.5 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps — something that you haven't seen in decades." — remarks at White House on July 27.

WHITE HOUSE: "More than 2.8 million have stopped participating in the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program (SNAP) - commonly known as food stamps - since Trump's first full month in office." — information sheet released Tuesday, citing Fox Business report.

THE FACTS: Trump and the White House omit important context and overstate his role in reducing the number of people on food stamps. Nor is it accurate that recent declines are the biggest in decades. It's true, as the White House conveys, that more than 2.8 million people stopped participating in the program during the 15-month period from February 2017, Trump's first full month in office, to May 2018, the latest Agriculture Department data available. But this decline is consistent with a longer-term downward trend in food stamp usage due to an improving economy. Currently there are 39.3 million people in the program; food stamp usage peaked in 2013 at around 47.6 million, following the recession.

For instance, in the 15-month period before Trump's first full month in office, food stamps declined by 3.3 million — larger than the 2.8 million that dropped off under Trump's watch.

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MEDICARE

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS: "Medicare for All will lead to a $2 TRILLION REDUCTION in national health expenditures over 10 years." — tweet July 30.

THE FACTS: Sanders' tweet and YouTube video are being widely echoed by supporters of a government-run national health system. But the Vermont independent mischaracterizes a study from a libertarian policy institute that found his legislation would lead to a massive boost in federal spending and taxation.

The study from the Mercatus Center at George Mason University in Virginia also concluded that "Medicare for all" is unlikely to produce a dividend for U.S. society in the form of lower total health care spending. To get that result would require paying hospitals and doctors much less than they get now and risk putting some out of business.

The study found that if hospitals and doctors were willing to accept Medicare-based payments of 40 percent less for patients who currently have private insurance, then projected U.S. health care spending would decline by about 3 percent from 2022-2031, or $2.05 trillion. It's a big asterisk, and one that Sanders fails to disclose.

That's the number Sanders is celebrating.

But the study also said if medical providers continue to be paid about the same as now, U.S. health care spending would increase by $3.25 trillion over 10 years under "Medicare for all." It works out to about 5 percent more.

That's far different from Sanders' assurance that his plan "will lead" to huge spending reductions.

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WILDFIRES AND WATER

TRUMP: "California wildfires are being magnified & made so much worse by the bad environmental laws which aren't allowing massive amounts of readily available water to be properly utilized. It is being diverted into the Pacific Ocean." — tweet Monday.

THE FACTS: That's not what state experts say.

"We have plenty of water" for battling the massive blazes burning in hills north of San Francisco, said Scott McLean, a spokesman for the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection. The current spate of wildfires happens to be within range of large Northern California lakes and the state's biggest river, McLean said.

Nor is having enough water a problem in battling California wildfires in general. Firefighting aircraft can dip in and out of cattle ponds or other small bodies of water to scoop up water for dropping and spraying on flames. When fires burn in an area that happens to be without ponds, lakes or rivers, state officials typically call in more planes to ferry in water, McLean said.

California's battles over divvying up water in the arid state are unending, but a battle between firefighters and the Pacific Ocean hasn't been one of them, according to Jay Lund, a civil and environmental engineering professor at the University of California, Davis, and a longtime analyst of the state's water wars.

For one thing, the wildfires are in the hills, far from the Pacific Ocean and from the man-made storage and distribution system that carries water from California's wetter north to the drier, more populated south.

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TRUMP: "Governor Jerry Brown must allow the Free Flow of the vast amounts of water coming from the North and foolishly being diverted into the Pacific Ocean. Can be used for fires, farming and everything else. Think of California with plenty of Water - Nice! Fast Federal govt. approvals." — tweet Monday.

THE FACTS: Trump is raising an old dispute in California, the country's top farm state: the competition for water between agricultural and environmental groups, fishermen and others who want more water for wildlife and habitat. But the dispute has little to do with firefighting.

Republican lawmakers in California's agriculture-rich Central Valley complain the state and federal governments allow too much of the state's rainfall and snow melt to flow naturally through rivers and into the Pacific Ocean, instead of being diverted for irrigation.

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VETERANS

TRUMP: "The Democrats are obstructionists. The only thing they do well, they're lousy politicians, they have horrible, stupid policies. You know, let's get rid of law enforcement, let's get rid of our military, let's not take care of our vets — all of these things. ... They'll do anything they can really to obstruct or resist." — remarks Aug. 4 at Ohio rally.

THE FACTS: On the contrary, in regards to veterans' issues, every major bill signed into law by Trump has passed with strong support from both Republicans and Democrats. In one case, House Democrats did block an emergency funding bill for the Veterans Choice private-sector program after veterans groups complained that it focused on too much private care instead of core VA programs. The Democrats' dissent resulted in additional funding for both private care and VA programs in the revised bill.

More recently, Robert Wilkie was confirmed by the Senate to serve as VA secretary on an 86-9 vote. It was a moment of strong bipartisan display compared to the partisan discord over other Trump nominees.