Defense: Raniere is innocent; women can brand themselves like men do

A Brooklyn federal judge has set October 1st as the trial date for Keith Raniere and Allison Mack trial date. The two are charged for their involvement in the alleged sex-trafficking cult NXIVM.

Defense: “(Raniere) believes in his innocence and I’m impressed with his stamina. He has no reason to plead guilty.” #NXIVM

“There are groups of men who brand themselves. When women choose to brand themselves, they become victims?” Keith Raniere’s attorneys speaking outside of federal court right now regarding #NXIVM charges.

Attorneys for NXIVM leader Keith Raniere, speaking about the organization being an alleged sex cult: “It’s a slogan, it’s a label that the government is attaching to conduct to make it nefarious. Women joined of their own volition.”

Raniere’s Defense Team: women joined #NXIVM on their “own volition” and “for their “own reasons.”

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These lawyers are what gives the law profession a bad name. An honest.defense is one thing,.lying about a group of women who have been tortured by Raniere and Mack makes these lawyers scrum of the earth. Winning by Lying is not justice. Pig’s these men are.

The real threat of DOX /blackmail for expressing ‘defiance’ when being held down for the branding is not the same as going to a tattoo parlor and telling the guy to ink Allison’s/Keith’s logo on your butt

Except for a tiny sect of ultrareligious men in India, I find no examples where branding is NOT used as punishment. The most common usage of branding throughout human history is marking ownership of slaves, same as is done with cattle.

So a handful of crazy men on the other side of the world brand themselves in a religious initiation ceremony… and that means that DOS slaves aren’t victims?? That’s some kool-aid.

This is a trend that I do not like, but women argue that they have the right to control their own bodies.
Increasingly younger women are getting tattoos.
And women’s tattoos are getting increasingly larger.
Surveys of women 35 and younger indicate that 47% of these women have tattoos.
While these tattoos are often quite small, some are very extensive.
Many young women sport so-called “tramp stamps” on their lower backs which advertise that these women are “open for business.”
And there are also reports that some women are deliberately getting branded.

At what point should the government intervene in the private decisions of grown women on what to do with their bodies?
People have to take some responsibility for what they do with their lives.

If their is a problem with the NXIVM branding, it is that the women in charge of the branding did not fully inform the women getting the brands what the process would involve.

Nobody’s asking for your opinion on women’s rights to THEIR OWN BODIES. The reality is these women were lied to and what ultimately would happen to them (branding) was misrepresented by cult members like Allison Mack and Lauren Salzman. This has nothing to do with choosing to be tattooed. Scarification is totally different than what the women were apparently led to believe would happen.

Just those two eh? What about the Salzmans and the Bronfman gals? Without them, NXVIM might have been just another Consumers Buyline taken down long ago by the authorities with no vast sums of money to buy them off. Or is it just actresses you despise? Then what about the BSG gals Clyne and Park, the terminator gal Loken, how about Catherine and CC-2 herself, India Oxenberg, how about the actresses who were part of the infamous The Source — Bonnie Piesse, Alicia Novak, Maja Milkovitch, Rebecca Davis, Ana Risoul, Nik Isbell, Jennifer Kobelt — then there’s some others Frank either doesn’t know about or hasn’t fixated on yet, and, of course, the one who ran the Vancouver center and talked about how great she was at recruiting her actor friends for 12 years, Sarah Edmondson

Kristin had nothing to do with DOS. She also had nothing to do with the Source like these other actresses.

The extent to which she brought people in was for the self-help courses. What they did from that point on is on themselves. There were a number of people who were supposedly “brainwashed” but who left this group quickly enough. Kristin left way back in 2012, supposedly when she found out about Raniere’s history with teen girls. I believe Mark Vicente did so when the love for his wife was demeaned or somehow used against him (in relation to the branding). And Mark Hildreth and Maja Milkovitch quickly left when they found out about the branding. Others who were appalled by the branding left just as quickly as well.

Yes, Kristin shares some responsibility in lending her name to this group but that’s about it. She had no intent of recruiting for the sexual slavery of a man and would never have done so if she knew. With the events as they are today, it turns out this group wasted more of her and other people’s time and sullied her name more than it really ever helped her.