Man gets accused of rape and kills himself. GUILTY.
You don't think so? that's just NUTS.
I guess you also defend Epstein. "Gee, he only killed himself because of the press and twitter and whatever. The girls are liars!" pathetic, lol.

To me it's just funny that Zoe "five guys" Quinn didn't kill herself after all the bullying most of you did. But then this guy immediately kills himself after being accused of some misconduct. So fast... so "jesus christ if somebody ever finds out I'll be fucked"

To me it's just funny that Zoe "five guys" Quinn didn't kill herself after all the bullying most of you did. But then this guy immediately kills himself after being accused of some misconduct. So fast... so "jesus christ if somebody ever finds out I'll be fucked"

You are comparing very different scenarios.

Zoe had an army of powerful allies in indie gaming and game journalism come to her defense immediately in official channels (in the form of articles on Gaming Sites) and on Twitter, etc. despite evidence of her misdeeds and the, at the very least, irregularities of the gaming press she was involved with.

Her life actually got significantly better almost immediately after "5 guys" thanks to trading off her victim status first as she started to receive funds through increased interest in "Depression Quest" and ultimately when she began to utilize platforms like Paetron where she earned $10s of thousands of dollars a month for a time.

Rumor has it after her accusation against Alec Holowka there was an increase to 5,000 patrons and a boost to $14,000 a month in funding before the Paetron page went to hidden status.

Then we have Alec Holowka. Someone with a history of struggling with mental issues, no allies outside of his sister, a hostile industry, as he is shunned by his peers (the indie scene is particularly Woke), and professionally as companies from his own employer and unaffiliated companies dog-piled in support of Zoe's evidence free allegations.

His future was ruined, certainly in the gaming industry, and any high tech position would certainly do a Google search on him which would bring these allegations to light. If he ever got to the point where he was doing anything significant these past allegations were sure to surface and cause problems for him and any employer.

There are a number of factors that could have driven him to suicide aside from guilt. He was staring down the business end of the Court of Public Opinion's outrage, was about to have his name dragged through the mud (whether or not it was deserved is, of course, open for debate), and was losing his livelihood. Even the most mentally stout of us could crumble under those circumstances. Even if he was completely innocent, it would take years for him to rebuild his life after public accusations like this.

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You don't think so? that's just NUTS.

I'm all for believing victims and their stories. I also like giving the accused a fair shake, because accusations aren't automatically ironclad.

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I guess you also defend Epstein. "Gee, he only killed himself because of the press and twitter and whatever. The girls are liars!" pathetic, lol.

Epstein's escapades were a pretty poorly-kept secret, and his horribleness was well-documented. The only question about his death is whether or not he was "suicided".

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To me it's just funny that Zoe "five guys" Quinn didn't kill herself after all the bullying most of you did. But then this guy immediately kills himself after being accused of some misconduct. So fast... so "jesus christ if somebody ever finds out I'll be fucked"

Sure, maybe he's a giant piece of shit and didn't want to live through the ordeal. We don't know the full story, and the fact that he killed himself doesn't automatically mean he's guilty.

Suicide is just another tool of the patriarchy to oppress and marginalize innocent beautiful womyns who din du nuffin. Clearly this guy was on track to shoot up a Gamestop before Chelsea Valkenburg heroically intervened and saved us all from another tragedy. I for one think she deserves a medal.

Not only that, his ability to provide for the oppressed via taxation has been greatly reduced. What a coward.

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Because there’s no way mental illness could be a factor.

My guess, he may have something else, not illegal but shameful he was hiding. Rapist don't kill themselves. They just lie.

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I know this is disrespecting the dead, but the game was crap and I can't believe some sort of Internet hype machine and cute animal characters convinced me to buy it.

Well, Duh. That sort of goes hand-in-hand with the "indie game" label. You're lucky you got halfway recognizable graphics instead of some blurred mash of "retro" pixel crap to go along with the esoteric gameplay.

That's like coming upon the scene of a car wreck caused by a drunk driver, seeing a dead body, watching the drunk walk away, recognizing the drunk for the repeat drunk driver that they are, and saying 'oh, it's just <so and so drunk>. Moving along.'

We're not surprised she's a liar. It's just a bit hard for the guy's family, friends, or the guy himself to move on now. He's kinda dead.

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"...boys lining up outside a room to take a turn gang raping a woman?...I went to frat parties where shit like this was going down

Not that we'll ever know and not that I really care. But I kind of want to know anyway if she has convinced herself she's right in all of this or if she knows she's conning everyone. I'm inclined to believe it's the former.

Also, David Jaffe weighed in on the matter and was schooled a bit. If you don't feel like clicking, he's apparently angry that people are digging into Quinn's story when they're not the cops or the law. It was then pointed out to him that she should probably have reported this story to the cops or the law then instead of blowing it out into the public herself.