This is a discussion on don questions within the online poker forums, in the Tournament Poker section; Today I made about 3-5 dollars playing 1.10 don's ok so first question if its folded around to me and blunds are somewhat large enough

Today I made about 3-5 dollars playing 1.10 don's ok so first question if its folded around to me and blunds are somewhat large enough to steal should I steal depending
On their stack size since I dknt have hud

#2

30th September 2013, 1:00 AM

nottoc [15]

That depends on a lot of factors - your table image, your position, the type of players you are up against, etc.

If you want to steal - and you should seek these opportunities in tournament play - watch your opponents and pick your spots to do it most effectively.

#3

30th September 2013, 1:22 AM

newbie in training [1,035]

Poker at: bovada

Game: hold em

My table image is super tight becayse when ever their was a show down I show 10,10+ and most of the time it was vetter

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#4

30th September 2013, 1:37 AM

SANDYHOOKER KY [382]

Online Poker at: everywhere

Game: holdem

How big is YOUR chip stack, if you have the table dominated, then go for a steal every chance you get. Haven't you ever saw a player raise dam near every hand, and drag 8 outta 10 pots? When it gets down to the money line, a lot of players will tighten up too much, leaving the door open for a good thief. You don't get many premium hands so it's much easier to run the weak-too tight player off their blinds. Good Luck!

#5

30th September 2013, 1:56 AM

newbie in training [1,035]

Poker at: bovada

Game: hold em

Thx very informative and I thinkni had around 1500 chips with 6 or 7 players left any other advice?

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#6

30th September 2013, 2:06 AM

AvaloNNN [243]

It depends. I see you're talking about DoNs, and if you're on the bubble, you should certainly be careful. Several factors should be considered when making decision and it's not that simple.

If you can provide some examples or situations you found tricky or difficult, post it here and I'll be glad to help you.

#7

30th September 2013, 2:07 AM

newbie in training [1,035]

Poker at: bovada

Game: hold em

re: Poker & don questions

Ok thx also what should I be postibg when I post it on here (idk if I can just copy the hand)

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#8

30th September 2013, 2:15 AM

AvaloNNN [243]

You can copy the hand or you can just type it, it doesn't really matter, as long as you provide us with relevant information.

#9

30th September 2013, 2:44 AM

newbie in training [1,035]

Poker at: bovada

Game: hold em

Ok thx will do next time im puzzled by something

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#10

30th September 2013, 11:05 AM

newbie in training [1,035]

Online Poker at: bovada

Game: hold em

At 3.56 ouch haha

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#11

1st October 2013, 1:56 AM

newbie in training [1,035]

Poker at: bovada

Game: hold em

Up to 4.22

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#12

2nd October 2013, 4:59 AM

newbie in training [1,035]

Online Poker at: bovada

Game: hold em

Up to 5.15

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#13

2nd October 2013, 4:41 PM

sillymunchie [554]

Poker at: PKR

Game: HOLD EM

BTW, the problem with DONs is if you dont have the right strategy then you get knocked out too easily
and given that you was discussing about stealing says a lot

first rule of DONs is you sit tight, there is no need to try and steal, blinds arent going up that fast, and when they do a steal attempt can only help if you have a stack that can withstand a call, and if you have this size stack then in a DON you have no need to steal

The basic concept is once you hit 10BB you are in shove and fold mode, you want to get into as few flips as you possibly can, so if somebody shoves into you, you wouldnt call too often, remember...... survival is the key to these, so the fewer hands you see the better your chances are of surviving, this is why these feel robotic and boring

#14

2nd October 2013, 4:52 PM

BluffMeAllIn [10,987]

Online Poker at: sigh Stars

Game: Any and All

re: Poker & don questions

OP had referred to when the blinds were bigger Kingm, which in any situation you have to steal to stay alive (as we all know can't always wait for a good hand before we run out of chips). It is a very tight game, although you will comes accross the fish as well who suck out a runner runner flush on ya (happened to me last night in one on titan).

For the most part as others have mentioned you will need to have a feel for the table and the blinds you are going to try and steal, it will also depend on their stack size as when you come to the bubble in a DON you get people in survival mode but you must also realize in this situation that you don't want to double up any shortstacks either and windup being the shortstack yourself and then finding you go out on the bubble.

Up to 5.26 ik its not a lot but eh its better than losing lol and what I played today:
3 1$ don (won 2)
1 1$ mtt knock out tourney my question is do yiu think I should grind the don's or the mtt's (some one told me the mtt were fishy) so I went to go check it out and lodt all in avearage stacked around tge starting chips on a coinflip kas vs 36o lol just too fishy XD

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#17

3rd October 2013, 3:57 AM

loafes [1,051]

Game: holdem

You need a much bigger bankroll to grind MTTs. Wait until you have about $50 until you even think about grinding $1 MTTs

Take the occasional shot at $1 MTTs when you have about $30 or so. But to actually grind them you need at least 50 buyins and that's just for the lowest MTTs in reality 100 buyins is more correct BRM for MTTs

For now concentrate on the cheapest DONs until you have a BR that can handle the variance of MTTs

#18

3rd October 2013, 12:35 PM

newbie in training [1,035]

Online Poker at: bovada

Game: hold em

Ok and I won another don so im up another 88 cents

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#19

3rd October 2013, 2:59 PM

ccocco [460]

Poker at: pokerstars

Game: game to all

all depends on your bankroll, your position and as the table ... if there are aggressive players, lose, etc. .. and in that moment the tournament this ... the size of the blinds, the larger you try to steal more ...

#20

3rd October 2013, 4:36 PM

newbie in training [1,035]

Online Poker at: bovada

Game: hold em

Thx and I really barely under stood what you just said lol

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#21

4th October 2013, 12:04 AM

newbie in training [1,035]

Poker at: bovada

Game: hold em

re: Poker & don questions

Br management #1 for don
Once I get up to 20 bi's in the next level then I move up if I go below 10 bi's In my current level then I move down a level (this is only when I get past the $20 mark

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#22

4th October 2013, 6:13 AM

newbie in training [1,035]

Online Poker at: bovada

Game: hold em

Any thoughts if thats good or no?

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#23

4th October 2013, 6:32 AM

AvaloNNN [243]

I would recommend having at least 20 Buyins at the lowest limits.

#24

4th October 2013, 7:00 AM

newbie in training [1,035]

Online Poker at: bovada

Game: hold em

Sorry worded it wrong lol and what I meabt is for every level that I go up I have to have 10 more buy ins due to the reg's anf if I lose 10 buy ins then id drop down a level (but since im st the lowest level I just have to play with a small br)

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#25

4th October 2013, 7:14 AM

AvaloNNN [243]

Dont rush and take your time. The most important thing for you is to learn optimal DoN strategy, and to be able to beat these games constantly, especially if you're a beginner. If you manage to do that I'm sure your bankroll will grow as well.

How big is your roll and what stakes do you play?

#26

4th October 2013, 12:11 PM

newbie in training [1,035]

Online Poker at: bovada

Game: hold em

A lol role pf $6 and ofcourse 1.10

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#27

4th October 2013, 12:32 PM

AvaloNNN [243]

When I started out like 5,6 months ago, I had $0, won a freeroll for $5.5 or something and grinded my way up to 1k in two months, so theoretically that bankroll is big enough if your skills are decent.

#28

4th October 2013, 2:05 PM

newbie in training [1,035]

Online Poker at: bovada

Game: hold em

re: Poker & don questions

Thats what I figure because there is praticlly no variance in don tourneys (if u know how to play em)

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#29

4th October 2013, 11:54 PM

newbie in training [1,035]

Poker at: bovada

Game: hold em

Well gonna go grind some don's ill tell you mt results :/ whrn I come back

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#30

5th October 2013, 12:13 AM

newbie in training [1,035]

Online Poker at: bovada

Game: hold em

Actually just played a couple hands in a cash game talk about light play lol I raise to .08 on the button dude raise me to .18 and I insta call with 8Ks (allthough that probably want the best move)

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#31

5th October 2013, 2:16 AM

MTCashman [1,278]

Poker at: All of them

Game: Hold Em/Razz

I think you should absolutely put pressure on the other players assuming you have some chips to fall back on, people tighten up way too much on the bubble and that's when you can take advantage, don't be afraid to bubble making these plays because you are risking it anyways by folding yourself down to nothing might as well be sitting pretty

#32

5th October 2013, 2:26 AM

newbie in training [1,035]

Online Poker at: bovada

Game: hold em

Welp lost two 3 out of 4 but luckilly I had the other 80 cents to fall back on AND WILL DO ABOUT RAISING ON BUBBLE

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#33

5th October 2013, 3:56 AM

newbie in training [1,035]

Poker at: bovada

Game: hold em

Now im at 6.02 I think im in the right direction...

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#34

5th October 2013, 4:53 AM

loomis311 [173]

Online Poker at: lock

Game: holdem

Like everybody is saying above there a lot of factors to take into consideration like your and your opponents stack sizes and their tendencies. The fastest way you are going to learn about this is probably poker literature. There are a lot of good articles on this this topic and they are many pages in length. You need to spend time on and off the table learning the game to learn to best exploit opponents. Good luck.