while I certainly can't define for you what is fun and isn't, I just as certainly feel that comparing Starcraft, or any other PVP game, to TL2, in detail, is pointless. Sure, a maphack where you can see where the other guys are would suck... if you're trying to kill them. This is a co-op Multiplayer, not a PVP. So the guy makes himself a god-sucking weapon, or can see all the way across the map environ. Who cares? If it bothers you that he's got it easy, there's a simple solution. You create a new dungeon instance, reset the map, set a password, and give it to the people NOT using the god-suckers.

No, I think I understand what you're trying to say, and I guess my point is, that if you decide someone's hacked their toon, don't play with them, and that I feel there's a huge difference between someone hacking in a PVP multiplayer environment, and a co-op Multiplayer environ, especially when you can simply close your instance of the game, and start a new one. Let 'em hack; no skin off my back, and I guess I can't understand why it should bother you?

to add to that, if it's the "Ferris Bueller" syndrome ("why should he get away with it??!!"), I don't know how you could handle any time at all in D3, where the kid with the most money, wins. That's a pay-to-win game at its utmost.

No, I think I understand what you're trying to say, and I guess my point is, that if you decide someone's hacked their toon, don't play with them, and that I feel there's a huge difference between someone hacking in a PVP multiplayer environment, and a co-op Multiplayer environ, especially when you can simply close your instance of the game, and start a new one. Let 'em hack; no skin off my back, and I guess I can't understand why it should bother you?

to add to that, if it's the "Ferris Bueller" syndrome ("why should he get away with it??!!"), I don't know how you could handle any time at all in D3, where the kid with the most money, wins. That's a pay-to-win game at its utmost.

Credit Cards!!!!!! oops... shh don't tell the fiancee.... I would tell you to hit the TL2 forums, but the only ones over there that I might vouch for have been on pre-order for weeks.... the good news is, that Monday will come sooner for you than me!! heheh