LoneVVolf:"The revealing e-mail went out as part of a fundraising effort to have school supporters lobby parents of recently rejected kids for money"

Yeah... good luck with that.

Yeah... I don't get the school's logic in that. "We rejected your kid, so give us money." Are parents supposed to read between the lines that if they donate more money, then a spot might magically open up suddently and their kid might suddently be accepted?

Also, I love it when people tell me they went to an "elite" or "exclusive" school that I'd never heard of until they told me.

CSB: I have a coworker that went to a private school for engineering, and they were flabbergasted that I'd never heard of it. "What do you mean you've never heard of it?? It's the number one engineering school in the country!" Really? That's odd, because I also went to school for engineering, and when I was reviewing the list of top engineering schools in the country, yours was not on that list.

/and i was never smart enough for one of those schools, so never went//Go Bobcats and my mediocre BSEE from a public state university!

i'm kinda glad i left boarding school in high school to come back home to my ghetto high school. i can now easily spot douchebags who run their mouth and have never been punched in the face. everyone needs to learn that lesson at some point.

The people who were twenty-something yuppies 30 years ago are the same people who are fifty-something multimillionaires now, trying to get their children into expensive private high schools that nobody outside of their social circle is impressed by, including the admissions boards at Harvard and Yale.

Two words: Selection Bias. Small Snob Prick schools can say that they are excellent teachers because their alumni go on to do such great things while public school kids, with their inferior public school teachers, wait tables. This is an easy lie to perpetuate. Never accept any trouble maker, or any kid from a poor home where the choice is between books and food, or any incurious or studious student, or anyone who could possibly be difficult at all to teach and you will look like you shiat gold as a teacher. EVEN IF YOU ARE JUST AN OVER PAID, EGO INFLATED, QUICK TO DISCIPLINE JERKOFF.

My kid goes to a public school because that is where he will get an education that will actually SERVE him. He, in his life, will have to deal with people who are not carbon copies of himself and will be taught to deal with that. And along the way, he will also run across some excellent teachers as well as have me sitting next to him when he can't figure out his homework. THAT is excellence in education.

They have already publicly stated that the purpose of the release was to raise money and communicating the failure of a 3rd person - in a way that might denigrate - for the purpose of gaining revenue is a decent platform to sue for deliberate infliction of emotional distress. Elite schools generally release numbers only - like Harvard might claim that they only except 5% of those applying, but they never list a bunch of names that they turned down. Someone at this school is dumb. I think that the whole thing is stupid, but this means something to the people in the community.

Mangoose:ByOwlLight: edmo: You know, 30 years ago "yuppie" did not equate to wealthy.

Yes it did. Maybe you're thinking of hippie?

No it didn't. It means young urban professional. That meant young, just starting out, educated, living in a city and with a good job. It meant on the way to wealth.

LoneVVolf: Yeah... good luck with that.

If you were planning on re-applying, or had another kid you were going to apply for, dropping a few grand or more on a donation couldn't hurt.

I guess that was the motivation behind it. Though to be honest, if my kid was rejected from a school and they had the audacity to hit me up for donations, that school IS DEAD TO ME and they can EABOD and DIAF.

So the admissions office released a list of who was accepted and who was rejected (because that's classy)

They did this in hopes of spamming rejected families into giving them money (because you saved so much on tuition and we're just that awesome, right?)

Families on the rejected list are angry but reluctant to sue because then people would (gasp!) know they were rejected from Dalton and forced to go to less prestigious private schools (I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the closest these kids would get to a public school is speeding past them with the windows rolled up)

and then there's this:

"The embarrassing e-mail has alumni seething. "It's ridiculous," exclaimed one. "This is a breach of confidentiality. The bottom line is admissions should never tell any outsiders anything."

TheRameres:LoneVVolf: "The revealing e-mail went out as part of a fundraising effort to have school supporters lobby parents of recently rejected kids for money"

Yeah... good luck with that.

Yeah... I don't get the school's logic in that. "We rejected your kid, so give us money." Are parents supposed to read between the lines that if they donate more money, then a spot might magically open up suddently and their kid might suddently be accepted?

Also, I love it when people tell me they went to an "elite" or "exclusive" school that I'd never heard of until they told me.

CSB: I have a coworker that went to a private school for engineering, and they were flabbergasted that I'd never heard of it. "What do you mean you've never heard of it?? It's the number one engineering school in the country!" Really? That's odd, because I also went to school for engineering, and when I was reviewing the list of top engineering schools in the country, yours was not on that list.

/and i was never smart enough for one of those schools, so never went//Go Bobcats and my mediocre BSEE from a public state university!

Just to troll Dalton, someone should make a huge anonymous pledge with an expected delivery after the selection process ends. Then, when they announce their selections, recind the pledge and watch them scramble to figure out which reject the pledge was 'attached' to.

TheRameres:Yeah... I don't get the school's logic in that. "We rejected your kid, so give us money." Are parents supposed to read between the lines that if they donate more money, then a spot might magically open up suddently and their kid might suddently be accepted?

I'd say they should turn back to the school and say, "You rejected my kid? ok. I hope nothing bad happens to your school" in their best Tony Soprano voice. Let them read between them lines.

Nuclear Monk:TheRameres: LoneVVolf: "The revealing e-mail went out as part of a fundraising effort to have school supporters lobby parents of recently rejected kids for money"

Yeah... good luck with that.

Yeah... I don't get the school's logic in that. "We rejected your kid, so give us money." Are parents supposed to read between the lines that if they donate more money, then a spot might magically open up suddently and their kid might suddently be accepted?

Also, I love it when people tell me they went to an "elite" or "exclusive" school that I'd never heard of until they told me.

CSB: I have a coworker that went to a private school for engineering, and they were flabbergasted that I'd never heard of it. "What do you mean you've never heard of it?? It's the number one engineering school in the country!" Really? That's odd, because I also went to school for engineering, and when I was reviewing the list of top engineering schools in the country, yours was not on that list.

/and i was never smart enough for one of those schools, so never went//Go Bobcats and my mediocre BSEE from a public state university!

Did your coworker go to Rose-Hulman by any chance?

Yep - apparently they are the top engineering undergraduate school without a graduate program. When I was looking at schools (15+ years ago), I think the most popular ranking was US Weekly's list, which didn't break it down to that category. I guess it's a really good school; just not as well-known as something like MIT (which I think is #1 school for engineering with a graduate program).

I wouldn't be embarrassed for my kids being rejected, more like whew, they won't be getting my money. Now being turned down by a public school would REALLY be embarrassing. Or a community college for that matter.

Nuclear Monk:TheRameres: LoneVVolf: "The revealing e-mail went out as part of a fundraising effort to have school supporters lobby parents of recently rejected kids for money"

Yeah... good luck with that.

Yeah... I don't get the school's logic in that. "We rejected your kid, so give us money." Are parents supposed to read between the lines that if they donate more money, then a spot might magically open up suddently and their kid might suddently be accepted?

Also, I love it when people tell me they went to an "elite" or "exclusive" school that I'd never heard of until they told me.

CSB: I have a coworker that went to a private school for engineering, and they were flabbergasted that I'd never heard of it. "What do you mean you've never heard of it?? It's the number one engineering school in the country!" Really? That's odd, because I also went to school for engineering, and when I was reviewing the list of top engineering schools in the country, yours was not on that list.

/and i was never smart enough for one of those schools, so never went//Go Bobcats and my mediocre BSEE from a public state university!

Did your coworker go to Rose-Hulman by any chance?

I was going to say the exact same thing. I In Southern Indiana they think that is a badge of distinction to get accepted to Rose Hulman or DePauw...Overpriced private colleges that no one has ever heard of.

I remember in college a professor was proud of the fact that most of his students failed his course. After the first class I told him I was dropping his course because a block of wood was teaching a similar course down the hall and I was sure everyone in that class would fail and so it must be a better teacher than him.

TheRameres:Nuclear Monk: TheRameres: LoneVVolf: "The revealing e-mail went out as part of a fundraising effort to have school supporters lobby parents of recently rejected kids for money"

Yeah... good luck with that.

Yeah... I don't get the school's logic in that. "We rejected your kid, so give us money." Are parents supposed to read between the lines that if they donate more money, then a spot might magically open up suddently and their kid might suddently be accepted?

Also, I love it when people tell me they went to an "elite" or "exclusive" school that I'd never heard of until they told me.

CSB: I have a coworker that went to a private school for engineering, and they were flabbergasted that I'd never heard of it. "What do you mean you've never heard of it?? It's the number one engineering school in the country!" Really? That's odd, because I also went to school for engineering, and when I was reviewing the list of top engineering schools in the country, yours was not on that list.

/and i was never smart enough for one of those schools, so never went//Go Bobcats and my mediocre BSEE from a public state university!

Did your coworker go to Rose-Hulman by any chance?

Yep - apparently they are the top engineering undergraduate school without a graduate program. When I was looking at schools (15+ years ago), I think the most popular ranking was US Weekly's list, which didn't break it down to that category. I guess it's a really good school; just not as well-known as something like MIT (which I think is #1 school for engineering with a graduate program).

Hah! knew it. We get the occasional intern from there...and they always point out it's the top engineering school, but I swear no one outside of Indiana has heard of it.

They had a question on yesterday's episode of Jeopardy about The Dalton School. They wanted to know which borough it was in. I'd never heard of it before yesterday. I guess I'm not elite enough for them.

chairmenmeow47:i'm kinda glad i left boarding school in high school to come back home to my ghetto high school. i can now easily spot douchebags who run their mouth and have never been punched in the face. everyone needs to learn that lesson at some point.

Yeah I'm pretty sure a place like Dalton is about education, it's more about access and connections that will develop Whether that is worth more than being properly educated, I can't really say.