Ive listened to Ogilala 3 times. It's worse than awful.
His god awful vibrato is painfulla and it just sounds like a b-side album from American Gothic and the train wreck that is If All Goes Wrong. Does he genuinely believe people want to hear this garbage? Who does he think his audience actually is? The deaf?! I'm done with him.

yeah it's also better than Zeitgeist. in other words, it's better than anything he's done since at least 2005, and yeah i'll ******* Mary Star and FutureEmbrace and say this is easily the best thing he's done since SP1 split in 2000.

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yeah it's also better than Zeitgeist. in other words, it's better than anything he's done since at least 2005, and yeah i'll ******* Mary Star and FutureEmbrace and say this is easily the best thing he's done since SP1 split in 2000.

now you are just taking the piss. how is any of this better than Zwan?

did all of you praising this as "good album" have so extremely low expectations that a solid shit deserves praise because you thought you'd hear liquid diarrhea? this isn't a good album. if all it takes to have an album called "good" around here is to be more listenable than the last 4 shit albums, okay, great.

all 3 songs he came up with in recent years that didn't make it on this album are better than any song on it.

Ive listened to Ogilala 3 times. It's worse than awful.
His god awful vibrato is painfulla and it just sounds like a b-side album from American Gothic and the train wreck that is If All Goes Wrong. Does he genuinely believe people want to hear this garbage? Who does he think his audience actually is? The deaf?! I'm done with him.

I'm with ya man. It really is shit... Pretty much on the same level as the band Train or something like that.

I can't say I'm done with him though. Every time I think I am he'll release something that I dig... But yeah, I'm getting a little tired of the overly positive christian-rock sounding shit.

now you are just taking the piss. how is any of this better than Zwan?

did all of you praising this as "good album" have so extremely low expectations that a solid shit deserves praise because you thought you'd hear liquid diarrhea? this isn't a good album. if all it takes to have an album called "good" around here is to be more listenable than the last 4 shit albums, okay, great.

all 3 songs he came up with in recent years that didn't make it on this album are better than any song on it.

Haha yes! Thank you! I feel like I'm losing my mind when I read some of the praise for this stinker.

Man... Not to hop on a Took bandwagon or anything. But I was continuously listening to Ogilala, trying to let it sink in, thinking I'd appreciate it and later that night saw Boris live in concert. It was really the kind of eye-opener I needed at the moment....

The thought that came to me the next day: "why am I giving utter crap like this so much attention when there's so much other music out there begging to be listened to"

Expand your horizons folks.... Trying to convince yourself to like some formerly great artists shitty new music isn't going to do you any good!

the delusion was when he said "people have listened to it and told me it's the most beautiful thing I've ever done". Yes, those people are idiots, but billy's retarded (like his brother jesse ) for believing them. Guess it runs in his family.

the delusion was when he said "people have listened to it and told me it's the most beautiful thing I've ever done". Yes, those people are idiots, but billy's retarded (like his brother jesse ) for believing them. Guess it runs in his family.

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Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

Man... Not to hop on a Took bandwagon or anything. But I was continuously listening to Ogilala, trying to let it sink in, thinking I'd appreciate it and later that night saw Boris live in concert. It was really the kind of eye-opener I needed at the moment....

The thought that came to me the next day: "why am I giving utter crap like this so much attention when there's so much other music out there begging to be listened to"

Expand your horizons folks.... Trying to convince yourself to like some formerly great artists shitty new music isn't going to do you any good!

obviously most of us got into sp at a formative time in our lives and have followed corgan for like 20+ years and it's not really about the music anymore. it's like keeping up with an old friend when he comes into town every couple years, you know? and since we were going to see him anyway it's good that he's not a homeless crackhead giving $2 blowjobs (the equivalent of monuments)

The thought that came to me the next day: "why am I giving utter crap like this so much attention when there's so much other music out there begging to be listened to"

Expand your horizons folks.... Trying to convince yourself to like some formerly great artists shitty new music isn't going to do you any good!

Why not do both?
There's a sort of nostalgia and interest in dissecting a previous-favourite artist's new work.

For comparison, I actually get a lot more enjoyment listening to Billy's new stuff than say, Grandaddy's last two albums, which were both irredeemably bland.

Science Fiction is my album of the year so far. The new National is decent and I quite like the band Alvvays. But new music is pretty bad, these days. There's no decent rawk out there. Fuck... the best two albums I heard last year were Go!Team and Blink. Dunno if this proves your point or not, actually...