7.tomorrowisnow (unregistered)

Welcome to VZW. The Android OS on a VZW handset won't even have a hint of Google in a year. VZW is locking everything down so they can rip you off like they have always done. Replacing Google search with Bing. Putting VZ Nav on the phone when Google Maps is already there. Very soon it will only be VZ Nav. Announcing a separate app store that they own and control. This will soon replace the Google Market. This is the same as when VZW gradually locked down any bluetooth capability and had the same OS on every phone, no matter the hardware manufacturer. Then there was the GPS disabling on Blackberry devices.

I don't know why someone gave you a negative. That is what Vz is going to do. They will over control and ruin what is keeping them in the game against the iphone.
How will Google have any say? They have an OPEN!(thats what you all want) system. They have no say in what moto, htc, samsung do to android for their vz phones.

27.Sean Norwood (unregistered)

What makes you think google would allow something that extreme. Just because Blackberry allowed it? I wouldn't compare Google to Blackberry ever. Or google to any other company besides maybe apple. Stop being such a panictard.

Exactly, welcome to Verizon? Since when has Verizon has all the same UI, OOOHHHHHH your talking about regular everyday phones, Im sorry I thought you were being a complete moron, oh wait you are. WinMo was NEVER tacked down by VZ material, niether was blackberry until ass clowns that love iPhone HAD to have Apps, all they are trying to do is compete with the market, Its their network someone else's phone, what, are they not allowed to make money on the deal either? Its like complaining that when you go see a movie and complaining about the prices at the theater, it someone else's movie actors are getting paid out the ass why cant the movie theater make money, that is in fact the place you have to go to watch it.
Its Verizon's Network and Data. Motorola's phone, Google's platforms, and the Dev's Apps. So what if Verizon wants a market to with competing Navigation, theres a few apps in the market that are more than 20$ for an alternate nav.
point is I know for a fact VZW wont cripple the phones that way. Be realistic, secondly, theres nothing wrong with the Network anting to get a piece of the pie too.

And so it starts. What did I say earlier, Froyo is a glitch update. This is what they did to my Droid. It ran perfect at 2.0 then they updated it. When it failed to "fix" any issues (which it didn't have) they released an update, then another, then another. Now my Droid runs like crap. This seems to be a practice that Android users will have to accept. I wouldn't be saying this if I didn't experience it myself. Some of you all are enjoying your new updates and I'm glad you are but some of us got the crap end of the stick. And yes I've done some remedy steps to fix them myself and didn't work.
If I had my device for about 2 years and it was seriously outdated then I would look for a new device. But just having it for a few months I feel like I got cheated. The newer devices don't seem to have the problems I'm having but I'm not due an upgrade for over a year and can't afford to get my wife and I a couple of $500+ phones.

Yeah and warranty. But they said they'd replace it with the same model, which I don't want. The Droid worked great with 2.0 for everyone. Then they kept upgrading it to the point where even Verizon Customer Service as well as myself admitted that the Droid may no longer fits the tech requirements forthe updates to run smoothly. More than one Verizon tech support stated that they've had an increase with complaints with the new updates. They told me because I insisted they fess up and tell me what other people are saying about it so I knew I wasn't alone on this matter.
If the Droid had more RAM and a faster processor then it would more likely work great but because Froyo was meant to work on more upgraded devices. The Droid just can't handle it thus making a handful of us Droid users have a bad experience. System restore, overclocking, rooting, deleting apps etc shouldn't HAVE to be an option. It should just work! If Google tested the Droid with the new update found it to be laggy and buggy with the updates they shouldn't have released it to the Droid. But again, this is a mixed crowd on this issue. I do know ppl that ended up buying a newer device because of the same problem I've had.

Ack! No! Don't do an insurance claim! At least not if you have Asurion. You'll get a refurb that'll suck worse than your current phone. With warranty you'll still get a sucky refurb, but at least it'll be free.

i have protectcell for my insurance. they guaranteed me a brand new phone if i needed to make a claim. not refurb, but brand new, it would be the same model as i have, unless it is discontinued. then they send the equivalent phone or one model/grade up from what i had. example: my buddy just made a claim because his original droid got peed on by the dog. soaked it (early last week) they did not have any of the droid (A855) any longer, so they send him a brand new droid 2.

That's like the in store insurance we sell; 90 for aircards out the door, 130 for regular phones, 150 for smartphones. Brand new phone (okay, a very slight chance that it's a refurb, esp. if it's for a really old or brand spankin' new phone model) but at least it saves money over Asurion.

29.Sean Norwood (unregistered)

It sounds like you are trying to say something that Vista users were saying back in the day. By saying oh my god vista works like shit on my xp computer after I upgraded blah blah blah. Dude Froyo is still the same OS. It made mine significantly faster and more functional. I have over 30 apps on my phone including a bunch that run in the background and I couldn't be happier. Ask yourself if your problems could be operator error. I worked Verizon for a long time and became a tech at one of the stores. I now own my own IT business and I see the same thing still.
Adding more Ram and a faster CPU would be stupid. I would have agreed if you would have said the droid needs a better GPU or a more intuitive UI. But as for rooting and so on, it wasn't meant for simply removing bloatware and overclocking. You can underclock to save battery, get free wifi tethering, deodex by adding a custom rom, get custom themes and increase overall versatility.
What it sounds like to me is your phone is too smart for you. I suggest sticking to a motoblur phone and a palm. At the very least obtain some more knowledge and firsthand experience before you go vent in some forum somewhere.

30.Sean Norwood (unregistered)

To answer your questions, yes I had 2.1 before 2.2, no I haven't made any claims with insurance or warranty but I was told that warranty is an option. I'm not doing either one. I deactivated my Droid and reactivated a flip phone I had. Till I can afford the transistion to an iPhone I'm sticking to a dumbphone till then. Since going back to a basic phone my headaches are over, I just have to rely on my iPod for my smartphone features just without having to pay for the data plan.

39.Amalan (unregistered)

After this update I've experienced the same issues I was having with the beta release. ive been switching through 2.1 to 2.2 frequentlyvia rsd to test various bugs and the same audio problem occurs to me every now and then. I use the music player every day and some days it won't play any of the audio files or pandora. Basically the audio on the entire phone is gone. So when I do a battery pull to fix it, I occur another problem where I resend old text messages to people. The phone automatically does this without me doing anything. This is a really big nuisance to me when i have to explain to my friends that it was my phone that texted them not me. so far I'm not happy with this version of the os I think the original was the least bugged. even though it doesn't offer flash, id much rather downgrade to non bugged version til they perfect this os.

Nope you'll have to wait on the next update to fix the problem this update created. (Unless you can find info on the net on how to downgrade OS) When that update fixes your problem it will replace it with another. Google needs to learn the phrase: "Don't fix what's not broken"
Every update I recieved on my Droid did fix something, whether it be battery drainage or OS graphics, but it just fixed one problem and created another.

i am going to look into this. i have been reading that there may be an impending doom to the android market being replaced by a VZmarket. (which i would be willing to be a months salary that there will be NO free apps at all) which if that happens.. good bye big red, i will be going to the hand-held fan looking logo company, and hope they get 4G here soon.

Hand-held fan looking logo company? Are you refering to AT&T? If so, yes they're getting LTE sometime mid-2011. This is what they said anyway. The other little networks I have no idea I don't keep up with them much.

My only complaint with Froyo so far is the changed format of the keyboard, wherein you can't just double tap the period key to get a comma. I mean, I guess I can get used to the new thing where you have to hit "space" and then pick one of the pop up punctuation choices. However, I tend to use commas wherever appropriate, and the double tap worked perfectly for me.

If you press and hold the period it will pull up a menu of all the different punctuations that you can insert in. At first I missed the double tap comma feature but to be honest after using the new method I do prefer it.

I haven't noticed any issues with the update yet! But it has been a busy week and i have barely used the phone. I did read what 2.2 brought the X, and it was have VZ crap to go along with the other vz crap that came on the phone.

just VZnavigator.. i have several GPS units already, i have wifi everywhere i go (even a portable mifi) and a small augen 7" android newbook, as well as an iPod touch, i carry the mifi in my pocket everywhere with me, so i am never left with no internet connection. makes me wonder if i even needed an android phone.. maybe i could have got by with something like a samsung reality or something along those lines)

i am still with in my 30 days on mine! (for about another 2 weeks or just a little more) if this occurs, it will be going back to the store, and if they dont have a droid x to replace it with, i will return it for a refund, and get a droid 2 (i will just exchange as long as i am not hit with a re-stocking fee, but if they do that, then i will say i dont want it, i want to be refunded and go to a place like wal-mart or a different reseller and buy a phone, and avoid the restocking fee)

i am powering off my phone right now.... lets see if it turns back on..
leaving it off for a minute here..
the motorola logo just lit up upon hitting the bitton..
now the droid thing is going..
all lit up and said "droid"
back on and working.
i guess i am good to go.

Mine's working fine after the update, like I said. I love how durable the X is; I've dropped it about ten to twelve times so far, a couple of times on purpose. I rap hard on the screen all the time to show people how durable that is. I also like the call quality and the battery life. The Incredible uses more juice and has a weaker battery.
Maybe I just have incredible luck with phones. *shrugs* But in my opinion, you'll be fine if you stick with the X.

31.lollololol (unregistered)

God damn it sure is nice being able to drop your phone and not worry about breakage. In the meantime I'll enjoy the brilliance HTC has to offer feeling secure in the fact that I don't have the motorskills of a toddler. Honestly it's not hard to avoid dropping your phone. If you manage power settings correctly you should never have battery life issues.

Well, Jesus dude. I guess my big ol' phone's bright screen which I sometimes use as a flashlight ain't brilliant enough. I guess having 14 more gigs of space available at purchase is a total waste. So is Swype. Aw, gee, yeah, this phone is totally worthless compared to HTC.
Note: not knocking HTC, they are amazing. But don't pick on my homeboy motorola.

I wonder if vzw has anything to do with this. My nexus hasn't had any problems since froyo, Actually works better than ever. Idk what other non vzw android phones run froyo but I'd like to see if it's only vzw phones or not. And if so, then why?

46.dread_x (unregistered)

My Droid X was fine, even perfect Before the froyo update. Since the update, my droid x lags, is slow on booting, sloooooooooooow to load my photo albums ( I've gotten the black screen that stays on for like 20 minutes), and have lost most of my album artwork off my music library.
Yes, browsing is much much faster, but for me, it's the little SIMPLE things that should not be a hassle. Like just trying to look at your pictures.

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