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ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.comTue, 31 Mar 2015 21:03:54 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: ghjjfhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/05/after-nixing-dolphins-farmer-wants-to-redefine-browns-history/#comment-3142233
Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:46:58 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2241960#comment-3142233These are the faux Browns, the real Browns are in Baltimore, the faux Browns have had only 2 winning seasons in 14 years and have only been to the playoffs once in their existence and lost.
]]>By: oldcrackerhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/05/after-nixing-dolphins-farmer-wants-to-redefine-browns-history/#comment-3141932
Wed, 05 Feb 2014 21:19:53 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2241960#comment-3141932Whatever his motives, whatever his reasons, I’m just glad he stayed. He provides the island of sanity in an ocean of lunacy and uncertainy.

Will Jimmy go to jail? Will Knuckles blow a gasket? Will Dumbardi find his office and his dolls? Is Coach Putin the answer, and for how long?

Ray Farmer is the single voice of talent, experience, reason and hope for the Browns players & fans.

]]>By: mrfrostyjhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/05/after-nixing-dolphins-farmer-wants-to-redefine-browns-history/#comment-3141420
Wed, 05 Feb 2014 18:11:44 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2241960#comment-3141420Wasn’t Miami’s GM job the one where basically you had the title but none of the authority? Also wasn’t it also the one where it was rumored that Dolphins owner Stephen Ross allegedly thought Ray Farmers name was “Roy” in the interview?

Cleveland’s biggest issue was hiring their GM’s AFTER hiring their coach and paid for it. Now that the guy is actually in a position to build a team (which Cleveland is apparently doing this year after deferring all their cap space and 2013 draft picks to this off season) why go somewhere where he’d be handcuffed to the decisions of someone else. Especially someone as shady as Jeff Ireland was.

]]>By: jbeatty1940http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/05/after-nixing-dolphins-farmer-wants-to-redefine-browns-history/#comment-3141410
Wed, 05 Feb 2014 18:07:41 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2241960#comment-3141410I like his enthusiasm. Being a lifelong browns fan I hope he is right. No fans n the NFL deserve some success more than the loyal browns fans. However, been there, seen it before, and I know what the outcome usually is. But, maybe his enthusiasm will trickle down to the players, free agents, and draft picks. But, 15 years of getting your hopes up only to be brought back to reality will make a skeptic out of anyone. Blessed is he who expects nothing for he shall not be disappointed. I hope they take off like a bat outta hell, but……..
]]>By: brownoholichttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/05/after-nixing-dolphins-farmer-wants-to-redefine-browns-history/#comment-3141163
Wed, 05 Feb 2014 16:52:02 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2241960#comment-3141163Please let this mean Lombardi could be on his way out.
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Wed, 05 Feb 2014 16:08:04 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2241960#comment-3141041Ray Farmer turned down the position with the Fins because he would not have authority over Philbin. Any GM would want control over the Head Coach and Ross was not providing that. Him not going to Miami has more to do with control over the franchise. I for one applaud Ross for showing loyalty to his coach. That franchise needs balance not more turmoil that comes with changing head coaches. Farmer not taking the job is not an indictment on the Fins but the hierarchy of the role. I cannot blame Farmer for turning down the opportunity as I am sure he will get another chance next year or sometime later.
]]>By: eatitfanboyhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/05/after-nixing-dolphins-farmer-wants-to-redefine-browns-history/#comment-3140889
Wed, 05 Feb 2014 15:26:38 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2241960#comment-3140889You can’t “redefine the history books”.

History doesn’t change. Even if the Browns became the most successful team in the NFL for the next 20 years, it wouldn’t change their “history”.

Someone needs to buy this guy a dictionary.

]]>By: tralfaz1127http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/05/after-nixing-dolphins-farmer-wants-to-redefine-browns-history/#comment-3140858
Wed, 05 Feb 2014 15:20:42 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2241960#comment-3140858He’s right, what’s the all time record for last place finishes, top 5 picks, losing record, basically all round futility. Got a great shot at that.
]]>By: clesportsfanhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/05/after-nixing-dolphins-farmer-wants-to-redefine-browns-history/#comment-3140849
Wed, 05 Feb 2014 15:16:09 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2241960#comment-3140849I like it – very few times do personnel pass up on opportunities to move on from an organization for a promotion. And maybe Farmer sees he is next in line to take over if Lombardi stumbles
]]>By: justalonewolfhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/05/after-nixing-dolphins-farmer-wants-to-redefine-browns-history/#comment-3140831
Wed, 05 Feb 2014 15:05:02 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2241960#comment-3140831Very few in the ‘know’ really know what the hell they are talking about, they, i.e. rag reporters write whatever looks good and what they think will get someone’s attention, that’s all, the truth is out there but in their dysfunctional minds the truth is whatever they write!
So back to my feeble point, perhaps Farmer decided that instead of being under the bright lights and intense pressure to succeed right away he stayed in crappy Cleveland where expectations are so much lower than in crappy Miami where they are not, ( let me keep this job where 8-8 is considered a success whereas Miami 10 wins still sucks! )

ps the Miami Herald sports reporters suck! alot

]]>By: jeremy2020http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/05/after-nixing-dolphins-farmer-wants-to-redefine-browns-history/#comment-3140826
Wed, 05 Feb 2014 15:03:26 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2241960#comment-3140826Browns will get 5 wins this year!
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Wed, 05 Feb 2014 14:07:16 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2241960#comment-3140732My goodness, Miami. From fans on this board running their mouth all offseason long while the Dolphins overpaid for mediocre free agents (Brent Grimes and his one year deal excluded) while dumping players who were better than those they signed (Karlos Dansby), and now we have a story of a Cleveland Browns employee turning down the chance to build a team near South Beach. Yikes. What the heck happened to this franchise? They used to be one of the best run organizations in pro sports, and now they are a clown show.
]]>By: thelastpieceofcheesehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/05/after-nixing-dolphins-farmer-wants-to-redefine-browns-history/#comment-3140729
Wed, 05 Feb 2014 14:05:36 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2241960#comment-3140729A losing team with a criminal owner is the real “dysfunctionality.”

Farmer took the route that it’s better one bird in the hand than two behind the bush.

]]>By: joemammyhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/05/after-nixing-dolphins-farmer-wants-to-redefine-browns-history/#comment-3140697
Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:49:34 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2241960#comment-3140697Well, if you’re planning on jumping on the Browns’ bandwagon, now’s the time to do it.

Go Brownies!!!

]]>By: captnmatt56http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/05/after-nixing-dolphins-farmer-wants-to-redefine-browns-history/#comment-3140690
Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:48:18 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2241960#comment-3140690“I think I know what is going to happen here”. Translation – Lombardi will be gone by the bye week and I will have my very own sinking ship to try to turn around.
]]>By: 6ballhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/05/after-nixing-dolphins-farmer-wants-to-redefine-browns-history/#comment-3140689
Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:46:50 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2241960#comment-3140689.

“redefine the history books ”

Translation

” we’ll suck less”

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]]>By: wfederalhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/05/after-nixing-dolphins-farmer-wants-to-redefine-browns-history/#comment-3140674
Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:34:38 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2241960#comment-3140674“That kind of optimism might be a chance for the Browns to overcome their Brownishness, but it speaks more clearly to how dysfunctional things are perceived in Miami right now.”

Or he just really believes the Browns are poised to turn it around like he said. They have a good defense and one top 5 receiver. Obviously need help on offense but they have what, 10 draft picks?! I think they can turn it around in the next couple of years. Not a Browns fan but I personally would love to see them improve like my Panthers. Good luck Cleveland!