You are not the only one. This is a car for trips from Bikram yoga to the nail salon to brunch (you know . . . to unwind) with a coiffed Yorkshire terrier on the driver's lap.

I wish that sort of person would drive this car, we'd have a much richer automotive world in that case--and some sweet used cars. No, the upper middle class Yoga mom is driving an X5 or GLE, maybe a Q5 if she doesn't have the means but wants to fake it.

I wish that sort of person would drive this car, we'd have a much richer automotive world in that case--and some sweet used cars. No, the upper middle class Yoga mom is driving an X5 or GLE, maybe a Q5 if she doesn't have the means but wants to fake it.

Oh yeah, for sure!!. Hell, just give me a base model Ranger with a manual and I'm set LOL.

Not a car I would buy but I do give them credit for building cars few will buy. They sold less than 2k LC's in the U.S. last year and still moving forward with it. Ford is almost completely stopping production of cars (Mustang) when the are over 30% of the market.

A portion of 30% of a market does not equate to profitability, especially when R&D costs are in the billions and the market is shrinking.

Every other manufacturer is in this segment except Ford (not sure but I think so) and they can't participate in any of it (except Mustang which is still a very small part of the market) when they have the world to sell to? Market for cars is shrinking but still 30% of roughly 17 million just in the U.S. for a worldwide manufacturer. China is the largest market for cars in the world, they out there also?

Not a car I would buy but I do give them credit for building cars few will buy. They sold less than 2k LC's in the U.S. last year and still moving forward with it. Ford is almost completely stopping production of cars (Mustang) when the are over 30% of the market.

I should have made it more clear, it is the only car they plan to keep producing.

Admittedly which of the other cars outside of the Focus/Fiesta twins would anyone really want other then the mustang. The sedans have grown to literally SUV proportions. I am sad about Focus/Fiesta but am at a point in my life where I think the only thing outside of trucks (hi raptor) and the mustang may be the new bronco, otherwise ford is meh. Same holds true for chevy, like the vette and camaro and maybe the Tahoe and a few high performance Cadillacs but thats it.

Admittedly which of the other cars outside of the Focus/Fiesta twins would anyone really want other then the mustang. The sedans have grown to literally SUV proportions. I am sad about Focus/Fiesta but am at a point in my life where I think the only thing outside of trucks (hi raptor) and the mustang may be the new bronco, otherwise ford is meh. Same holds true for chevy, like the vette and camaro and maybe the Tahoe and a few high performance Cadillacs but thats it.

Ford sold 457k cars in 2018, remove the 75k Mustangs and you have 382k, this is only the U.S. and doesn't include Lincoln cars. Obviously some are buying Ford cars and this is with a lineup they have done virtually nothing with for a number of years, like the 173k Fusions, a car that hasn't had a redesign in 6 years.

What you like is interesting but not really relevant to a good business decision. I have no interest in the CRV or RAV 4 but they make the manufacturers a lot of money.

Ford sold 457k cars in 2018, remove the 75k Mustangs and you have 382k, this is only the U.S. and doesn't include Lincoln cars. Obviously some are buying Ford cars and this is with a lineup they have done virtually nothing with for a number of years, like the 173k Fusions, a car that hasn't had a redesign in 6 years.

What you like is interesting but not really relevant to a good business decision. I have no interest in the CRV or RAV 4 but they make the manufacturers a lot of money.

And yet the best business people they have chose to discontinue the line up of cars suggesting from a business standpoint, it makes more money to spend the cash flow they have on other non car models. This is ofcourse with there own best analysis. Most publicly traded car manufacturer stocks are doing poorly right now (ford included) but that is a function of the market cycle we are in and slowing demand (housing market is doing the same). So dispite your sales numbers, evidently ford agrees with what I like as well, even if only by coincidence. Perhaps what I like coincides with a strong enough demographic change that it is relevant or maybe not.

And yet the best business people they have chose to discontinue the line up of cars suggesting from a business standpoint, it makes more money to spend the cash flow they have on other non car models. This is ofcourse with there own best analysis. Most publicly traded car manufacturer stocks are doing poorly right now (ford included) but that is a function of the market cycle we are in and slowing demand (housing market is doing the same). So dispite your sales numbers, evidently ford agrees with what I like as well, even if only by coincidence. Perhaps what I like coincides with a strong enough demographic change that it is relevant or maybe not.

And yet every other manufacturer continues to build cars and their best business people think it is worth it. It's over 10 to 1 right now of ones planning to continue to build cars to ones planning not to.

As one of the largest vehicle manufacturers in the world, not participating in one of the largest segments is likely to see them drop market share, possibly they don't care.

And yet every other manufacturer continues to build cars and their best business people think it is worth it. It's over 10 to 1 right now of ones planning to continue to build cars to ones planning not to.

As one of the largest vehicle manufacturers in the world, not participating in one of the largest segments is likely to see them drop market share, possibly they don't care.

Market share vs Net Profit. Diversification is sometimes diworsefication in the words of Peter Lynch. It is better sometimes to just do what you do well instead of trying to do everything in a mediocre fashion. Honda, Nissan and most non domestics including even toyota by raw numbers dont compete on trucks. Ford, Ram, and Chevy do. Sometimes this can hurt a company ofcourse, look at apple and iphone sales recently. But sometimes it is better. We shall soon see. I would bet ford knew they were less competitive so it made morse sense to transition to what they out compete everyone else in. The 10:1 number is meaningless when you consider how small a footprint in trucks most manufacturers have. Look at Nissan, decent sales and market share yet operating profit has big valleys.

I will give you another example. People criticized GM from pulling out of India and for closing plants (car plants), thats clearly yielding global market share, yet GM announced they expect to make more in 2019 then in 2018. Sometimes the unpopular choice is the correct one.

"Drop an inch from those rims' diameters to a more pothole-friendly 20- or 21-inch design..."

These are strange times we are living in. Given what I've paid to replace tires with blown out sidewalls from the calderas I regularly hit on my local roads, I'm looking forward to 13s being back in style. Bring back sidewalls! Anyone? Anyone? Am I alone here?

It's very pretty. It has the nicest interior by a wide margin.There is nothing like an NA V8 that likes to rev. AND being a Lexus product you know it's made well and isn't going to be a headache to own.

I heard this is not selling terribly well, which is a shame because it definitely has the looks and the V8 inside the engine bay is a gem. This will probably help sales a big deal and possibly outsell the coupe since I think it fits its target audience much better.

Not exactly the best proportioned convertible. The beltline is already high, the rear deck is even taller... From the rear it looks like a caricature. Just like that 86 convertible they showed a few years ago, it was clearly not designed with an open-top variant in mind.

Hard to get excited about yet another Japanese boulevard cruiser. Their cars are soulless marketing gimmicks. The current coupe LF, if it even appears at a cars and coffee event, is ignored by the public and especially enthusiasts.

So true. Back in the early 90s, when Japanese sports cars could compete with the big dogs (European and American), I think a Ferrari guy wrote (out of sour grapes), "You buy a Japanese sports car if you want an appliance, but you drive a Ferrari if you want emotion/passion".....Yeah, I get really "emotionally" upset if I have to pay $2000 for an oil change or $3000 for tires or $8000 for a maintenance interval.....I can't get "passionate" about that....even if I was Jeff Bezos rich. Today, Japanese cars don't excite me like the early 90's. They're duds. Soooo conservative performance wise and soulless, me-too, wannabe Star Trek styling. Gimmicky indeed.

Boo this sucks! I hate that different angular spindle grille. I hate that triangular headlight, they should be square or oval shape like every other car. 4,000 lbs? That's way too much! I know that a MB SL or BMW 8 Series weights the same, but everyone knows that a pound of Lexus is more than a pound of Mercedes/BMW. Oh and the interior of these things are horrible. Way too much leather and suede. It needs more plastics to be more durable. This is nothing but a rebadged Camry with RWD! It should be $40,000 tops! And ugh, I can't stand that infotainment system that I've likely never used because I've likely never step foot in this car for more than 10 minutes! I rather have a Mustang or used M3!

A real ugly car. Did they legalize grass in Japan when this design concept started. Toyota has a real problem in this design area. Whats good in Japan design is not always good here in the USA. The problem is people keep buying Toyota's here, even if they look like " John Deer tractors"--- because they know they can go 200,000 miles with min. repairs ---sad , really.