Derek Carr is a great kid, but nowhere near the talent of Bray. I have seen every Bray game since his High school sophomore year, and follow Carr because Fresno state is the local team. Carr and Bray were the 2 top HS QB's in the central valley. Bray at Kingsburg and Carr at Bakersfield Christian. Carr had the name and Fresno coach at the time Pat Hill locked him up early because he's David Carr's little Bro.
If you want solid character more than high ceiling, then Carr is your guy. If you want a guy with a ceiling like an open air stadium, you already have him on the roster. The college maturity bs has so far shown to be in his past.
Carr will be way better than Daniel but I 'd like to see him go to a team with better future opportunities for him.

What do you want me to say? He's the same guy as last year. I've watched him play a number of times.

He's a red shirt senior, three year starter in a QB friendly system and is putting up pretty good numbers.

He is what he is. He's not going to be a world beater and he's definitely not the same level of talent as his older brother. Derek Carr is the same type of QB that you see every single year in the draft. He's just a guy. If you want to talk about a guy with a much higher ceiling in the same conference, Chuckie Keeton should be the guy you are talking about (depending upon how he recovers from that shitty knee shot he took against BYU which blew out both his ACL and MCL.)

As well, I think that the Chiefs have a guy in Bray that has a substantially higher ceiling.

What do you want me to say? He's the same guy as last year. I've watched him play a number of times.

He's a red shirt senior, three year starter in a QB friendly system and is putting up pretty good numbers.

He is what he is. He's not going to be a world beater and he's definitely not the same level of talent as his older brother. Derek Carr is the same type of QB that you see every single year in the draft. He's just a guy. If you want to talk about a guy with a much higher ceiling in the same conference, Chuckie Keeton should be the guy you are talking about (depending upon how he recovers from that shitty knee shot he took against BYU which blew out both his ACL and MCL.)

As well, I think that the Chiefs have a guy in Bray that has a substantially higher ceiling.

I thought, from what I've watched, he has really good arm strength (up there with bray actually) good pocket presence, good mobility and great iq.

Round 3 is probably high, but he's a great piece of clay to mold in the later rounds.