Comments on: Yunel Escobar and the homophobic eye blackhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/yunel-escobar-and-the-homophobic-eye-black/
Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball.Sun, 02 Aug 2015 18:49:04 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: badintenthttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/yunel-escobar-and-the-homophobic-eye-black/comment-page-1/#comment-367598
Fri, 21 Sep 2012 04:31:26 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-367598NICK went deep again, grand slam. too bad for you. Take your meds and beat your dog ….. again.
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Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:39:38 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-366341Attention gay and lesbian community, I will say whatever the hell I want to say. Get over it, there is that 1st Amendment thing remember? This PC world can kiss my ass, too much worrying about anybody and everybody getting their feelings hurt.
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Wed, 19 Sep 2012 05:40:08 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-366302I swear, I have never read so many tiny little mind comments in all my born days…Once upon a time, right here in America, children used to chant: “Sticks and stones will break my bones, but WORDS will never hurt me!” Grow up people…thumbs down me if it makes you happy, but if you are offended by the words of another, then maybe you shouldn’t place yourself in the position of seeing those words written or hearing them spoken.
Whether it is the “bad no no words” or just something that irritates the piss out of you, faggot used to mean a bundle of sticks for a fire, then a cigarette, now…something else…hell, in 30 years it might mean taking the dog outside, who knows, who cares. If this petty stuff causes this level of uproar and vested time then there is a greater problem out there than the usage of a word or group of words.
Grow up!
…oh, and for the moron that said write the the word n***er on your shirt and wear it to work…ok…but I own my own company and i work for myself, so i certainly won’t get fired, and is that word really different from ni**a, and that dear fella is commonplace usage in the ghetto community…so you see, just like the comment in the actual story…commonplace usage in a local area is indeed acceptable…the bad thing is that YOU don’t like it. Well, I don’t like it when my neighbor’s dog takes a dump in my yard, but I don’t scream about or get childish…or would that mean I am DUMPAPHOBIC?
]]>By: El Bravohttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/yunel-escobar-and-the-homophobic-eye-black/comment-page-1/#comment-366129
Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:13:51 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-366129you all must be new
]]>By: daviddmsvcphttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/yunel-escobar-and-the-homophobic-eye-black/comment-page-1/#comment-365907
Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:32:22 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365907“suggesting that LGBT people weren’t born queer? I find that amazing.”
The only thing that is amazing is your lack of critical thinking skills. I made no such suggestion. In fact, my statement “You have to understand, I was born that way. I have no choice. Please accept me for what I am.” suggests, or implies, that I acknowledge that some people are born with homosexual tendancies.
Yes?
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Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:06:18 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365781I wouldn’t recommend using the word “Pendejo” in front of Mexicans. It’s considered far worse than “Maricon”. In front of Venezuelans though it’s a light insult. And in Argentina that word is used to refer to children in an affectionate. The lesson here is don’t think you’ve figured out the meaning of the word in Spanish because slang varies greatly from Country to Country.
]]>By: ericellershttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/yunel-escobar-and-the-homophobic-eye-black/comment-page-3/#comment-365760
Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:49:04 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365760“”Silly sailors”-Big gay Al commenting on Mr. Slave.
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Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:33:40 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365726That is one stupid reply. Queer used to mean strange or out of the ordinary and had no relation to being gay. Well just like the word gay which just used to mean happy. When I think of wimp I just think of a weak person. I do not think of a homosexual. Would you have him rather put Butt Pirate on his eye black? That way we wouldn’t be having this debate.
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Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:05:15 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365719In the Louise CK video I posted above they discuss just that. Witches were burned at the stake but homosexuals were considered subhuman so they threw them in with the kindling, or faggots as you stated.
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Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:25:15 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365713You don’t find anything ironic about you claiming to have been born heterosexual, and simultaneously suggesting that LGBT people weren’t born queer? I find that amazing.
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Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:13:28 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365705GLAAD??!?! GLAAD??!!!??!?!!??
Oh my god, I’m sooo scared. Here comes GLAAD!!!!!!!
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Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:01:01 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365703You are correct, sir. I withdraw my statement. At least that part, anyway.
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Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:57:32 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365701Old Gator you are a man amongst boys here, my friend. Bottom line is that regardless of what each and every person apparently decided what Escobar meant by what he put on his eye black (there’s something I never though I’d say) nobody knows the context. We can sit here and debate whether or not his INTENTIONS were to attack the homosexual community (think about that for a second. Seriously. Think about the fact we’re debating another man’s intentions) but none of us know for sure. Anybody that’s been in a locker room environment or even a freakin night out with guy friends when they were in their 20s has said/heard the word ‘faggot’ used in a way that was not meant to attack the gay community. If you haven’t, well I don’t know how else to explain it. But anybody here that can honestly say they NEVER used a derogatory term in a joking manner with their friends is at BEST a liar. I will say this: if Yunel Escobar sat down before the game and decided that he hated gays and was going to make a profound statement by putting his feelings on his eye black, then yes, he is a person that needs a serious sensitivity overhaul. But can we, just for a second, stop acting like because we’re debating on a message board we need to suddenly lose sight of the facts? That he’s a 20 something year old ball player that lives in a setting ruled by young men that really don’t think about one goddamn point that was argued here today? The most likely scenario is somebody either played a prank on him or he lost a bet and that’s what happened. It wasn’t some grand statement on his feelings toward homosexuality. From the lips of a Great American Hero: this is the pussification of America at its finest. The Mariconation if you will. I use the term Great American Hero loosely.
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Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:31:17 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365697Even that would be pretty freaking stupid to say.
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Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:27:53 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365696In my long-ago days studying Spanish and in my almost as long ago days of actually using it from time to time on the job, I never heard “maricon” used as the word for “p***y”. The most common word I heard in Spanish for that was “pendejo”. “Maricon” was used for various things ranging from “not very manly” to “flaming homosexual”, usually closer to the latter than the former. Calling a man that to his face was a triple-dog-dare invitation to a fight.

Escobar is an OK player, talented but nothing special. He has a lousy attitude and little chance of being with the Jays next year. I doubt that he’ll be missed very much. I also doubt that he’ll wind up with the Giants.

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Tue, 18 Sep 2012 04:51:55 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365688have you ever played xbox against 12 year olds? cus you hear it a lot then. that and things about your mother.
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Tue, 18 Sep 2012 04:34:17 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365686In all honesty, I could care less about this. I’ve spent enough time in locker rooms to know the prevalence of the word faggot. Maybe that’s bad because it means I’ve been numbed to it, but I feel like this shouldn’t surprise anyone.
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Tue, 18 Sep 2012 04:25:11 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365683I’m getting al silly just think’n about it all!
]]>By: ericellershttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/yunel-escobar-and-the-homophobic-eye-black/comment-page-2/#comment-365682
Tue, 18 Sep 2012 04:22:52 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365682He’s such a silly sailor!
]]>By: daviddmsvcphttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/yunel-escobar-and-the-homophobic-eye-black/comment-page-1/#comment-365676
Tue, 18 Sep 2012 03:24:28 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365676“David, baby, you were born that way [straight and homophobic]? Thanks for the most wonderfully ironic comment ever.”

Yes, Common Man Baby, I was born heterosexual and homophobic. I’m afaraid that I don’t quite get your little joke. Can you point out exactly where the irony is?

I don’t think Yunel was trying to be anti-gay. He (and/or his teammates) are just not bright.

]]>By: hammyofdoomhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/yunel-escobar-and-the-homophobic-eye-black/comment-page-1/#comment-365671
Tue, 18 Sep 2012 03:10:42 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365671Since when HASNT it offended people? I truly hope you are joking, otherwise I’ve lost a little faith in humans. The last time I heard someone use that word was either in high school or dumb jocks that think that college is still high school, and every other person I know knows that that is an offensive word. To me, this and the N word are neighbors on the “bad no no words” list, the only time I’ve even heard it said “jokingly” is when its in the 3 letter form and its south park or something. Seriously?
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Tue, 18 Sep 2012 03:09:08 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365670I mean he could have just put Leviticus 18:22 on his eye black if he’s trying to convey his reasons for opposing gays…maybe Romans 1:22-32 or Leviticus 20:13 but my question is does anyone know the reason the word faggots (a bundle of sticks used to fuel a fire) is used to describe gays? just curious as to the opinions on that?
]]>By: billgatesbarberhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/yunel-escobar-and-the-homophobic-eye-black/comment-page-2/#comment-365666
Tue, 18 Sep 2012 03:03:04 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365666When did cousin humping get such a bad rap?
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Tue, 18 Sep 2012 02:42:19 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365662Awesome, using “teabagger” as an insult on a post about using faggot as an insult. PROGRESS!

The frequency that members of the party opposite use that term to insult Tea Party members is mindblowing.

I don’t like their politics either, but that’s right near the top of the list of ridiculously childish rhetoric that is for some reason seen as acceptable in partisan politics.

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Tue, 18 Sep 2012 02:40:39 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365660anybody who works around high school boys would know the word “faggot” is thrown around pretty loosely, and that the intended meaning may range from “homosexual,” to “sissy,” to “jerk.”

that doesn’t mean that “faggot” is a word that a professional ought to wear on his body at his workplace. that doesn’t mean that the word “faggot” loses its impact even when it is not being used specifically to deride gay men.

“maricon” and “faggot” are very much equivalent terms.

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Tue, 18 Sep 2012 02:15:38 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365655David, baby, you were born that way [straight and homophobic]? Thanks for the most wonderfully ironic comment ever.
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Tue, 18 Sep 2012 02:06:39 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365654You forgot to mention that we’re all wearing cowled robes, carrying torches and chanting the Lyke-Wake dirge, while Kenneth Mars with his monocle and wooden arm leads us resolutely uphill to the castle where Yunel Escobar’s unnatural experiments are being conducted.
]]>By: charluteshttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/yunel-escobar-and-the-homophobic-eye-black/comment-page-2/#comment-365652
Tue, 18 Sep 2012 02:01:52 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365652by gender quality I meant equal rights. I better pass this dubber.
]]>By: charluteshttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/yunel-escobar-and-the-homophobic-eye-black/comment-page-2/#comment-365651
Tue, 18 Sep 2012 02:00:24 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=220134#comment-365651Craig is just fighting gender equality by any means necessary, even if it means wrongfully using baseball stats. As a baseball blogger that’s his job…oh wait.
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