The goal is to win the Superbowl, anything less is not a victory for us. Ask Bailey how he felt about this year. We did well, we rescued a ****ty season and beat the mother****ing Rapistburgers, but we did not get far enough. So Manning or not, expectations are high. We don't win it all, we are no better than when we had Plummer, Cutler, Orton or Tebow.

Just like there is no crying in baseball, there is no consolation prize in the NFL. Win it all. Don't think the Pats for instance feel all that good about 18-1 now do they? Probably feel even worse this year knowing that ELI Manning owns them. funny really.

Well I am just amused about how getting to the AFC championships and losing is better than nothing. By that standard, this year's Broncos would be one game shy with a QB with fewer years of experience and weaker skillset than who we are bringing in.

I am by no means arguing against Peyton. I love Peyton. I think he's amazing and I think he will draw in other talent and elevate what we have currently.

But this **** all attitude about Tebow is curious to me. Do I think Tim won this season by himself, **** no, but it was sure a hell of a lot more fun to watch then our painful losses with Orton (who by the way I also liked, but he's clearly a back up, not a starter). And yes the Teboners are annoying, but you know it is possible to like Tebow and the Broncos and not actually be a Teboner.

Well I am just amused about how getting to the AFC championships and losing is better than nothing. By that standard, this year's Broncos would be one game shy with a QB with fewer years of experience and weaker skillset than who we are bringing in.

I am by no means arguing against Peyton. I love Peyton. I think he's amazing and I think he will draw in other talent and elevate what we have currently.

But this **** all attitude about Tebow is curious to me. Do I think Tim won this season by himself, **** no, but it was sure a hell of a lot more fun to watch then our painful losses with Orton (who by the way I also liked, but he's clearly a back up, not a starter). And yes the Teboners are annoying, but you know it is possible to like Tebow and the Broncos and not actually be a Teboner.

Not according to most of the dip****s around here. But, yes, I agree with you.

So you think Tebow has improved his accuracy? Why am I an idiot? Because I don't think he is a legit QB? Well neither do 90 percent of the NFL teams, ex NFL players, current teammates. You sure are an easy target to pick on.

Well I am just amused about how getting to the AFC championships and losing is better than nothing. By that standard, this year's Broncos would be one game shy with a QB with fewer years of experience and weaker skillset than who we are bringing in.

I am by no means arguing against Peyton. I love Peyton. I think he's amazing and I think he will draw in other talent and elevate what we have currently.

But this **** all attitude about Tebow is curious to me. Do I think Tim won this season by himself, **** no, but it was sure a hell of a lot more fun to watch then our painful losses with Orton (who by the way I also liked, but he's clearly a back up, not a starter). And yes the Teboners are annoying, but you know it is possible to like Tebow and the Broncos and not actually be a Teboner.

It's because some of them are more in it for getting rid of Tebow than they are for Manning. Peyton was just the means to the end. Rational fans are going to struggle with having let Tebow go for two years of marginal improvement. But for these guys the actual winning come second to ridding themselves of Tebow.

So you think Tebow has improved his accuracy? Why am I an idiot? Because I don't think he is a legit QB? Well neither do 90 percent of the NFL teams, ex NFL players, current teammates. You sure are an easy target to pick on.

Tebow in college:

9285 yards, 66.4%, 88 TDs, 16 Ints

You claim he has questionable accuracy for a high schooler.

You are retarded. There is no way to spin this fact. Your latest response only proves this fact.

You are retarded. There is no way to spin this fact. Your latest response only proves this fact.

I was being sarcastic and over the top. Since when do stats determine accuracy? Half of his passes in meyers system were bubble screens, shovel passes and deep throws to wide open wr. NFL scouts no this and throw those out when looking at film. Accuracy always been a concern since hs and it still is.

I was being sarcastic and over the top. Since when do stats determine accuracy? Half of his passes in meyers system were bubble screens, shovel passes and deep throws to wide open wr. NFL scouts no this and throw those out when looking at film. Accuracy always been a concern since hs and it still is.

You are still being retarded because you don't know even a little about this sport.

Listening to you and your hard core nuthugging cronies whine, while the other nuthuggers try to distance themselves from you clowns by feigning to be Bronco fans again makes this signing so ****ing worth it......I don't even care about them winning it all sometimes

BTW, losing AFC title game is better than not getting to it at all....

maybe but for the money we paying manning he better win more than afc championships hell thats the type of money you throw at a first round no 1 draft pick QB
and Jhns should stop acting like such a jack ass and try to be a wee bit more nicer

I wouldn't be surprised if they try to get Osweiler in the draft, he is really raw but has a lot of potential. He is the type of guy who could hopefully benefit from a couple of years in a pro system as a backup.