Post by beerfish on Mar 6, 2016 12:26:55 GMT -5

I like Elliot a lot and would be very happy if we got him but I think he is going to go much earlier than people think. Decker wouldn't mind him but any guy at 20 for me needs to be more LT ready than just really good rt with a maybe of lt.

Not sold on Lee as much as others, wouldn't freak out if they picked him because I have a good feeling about our gm.

Post by Aussie Jet on Mar 6, 2016 17:50:56 GMT -5

I'm mock-drafting for the Lions and the Jets on another forum. I haven't yet completed my research into the Lions' needs, but I'm seriously considering grabbing Elliott at #16 for the Lions in the mock draft. Their current running backs are terrible and they're about to lose their biggest offensive weapon. None of the wide receivers available in free agency or in the draft are a patch on Megatron so Elliott would offer the biggest upside in re-tooling the Lions' offence in the post-Johnson era.

Bottom line, I don't see Elliott lasting to #20; if Maccagnan wants Elliott, he'll have to move up to grab him.

Post by RobR on Mar 6, 2016 21:51:27 GMT -5

Darron Lee is now on my list of players I DON'T want to draft at 20 overall. He's a guy that tests fast but plays slow with no instincts. Without his combine numbers he's nothing more than a 4th rounder.

I do like Elliott and Decker and would have no problem with either of them at 20.

Post by Paradis on Mar 7, 2016 1:53:24 GMT -5

Darron Lee is now on my list of players I DON'T want to draft at 20 overall. He's a guy that tests fast but plays slow with no instincts. Without his combine numbers he's nothing more than a 4th rounder.

I do like Elliott and Decker and would have no problem with either of them at 20.

interesting... I haven't yet dug into Lee, but I had hoped his tape would live up to the hype. I got invited to do this mock draft on a podcast, and had lee pegged as possibility for OAK (old habits die hard), but I'll have to revisit that now.

Post by Yankees45 on Mar 7, 2016 9:40:42 GMT -5

Darron Lee is now on my list of players I DON'T want to draft at 20 overall. He's a guy that tests fast but plays slow with no instincts. Without his combine numbers he's nothing more than a 4th rounder.

I do like Elliott and Decker and would have no problem with either of them at 20.

Really? Every time I watch osu he makes plays and guys runs like a beast he's a machine for a lb

Post by beerfish on Mar 7, 2016 11:00:44 GMT -5

Darron Lee is now on my list of players I DON'T want to draft at 20 overall. He's a guy that tests fast but plays slow with no instincts. Without his combine numbers he's nothing more than a 4th rounder.

I do like Elliott and Decker and would have no problem with either of them at 20.

This is actually born out by my little analytics calculation on the jets nation draft forum based on the formulas created by some fellow on the footballs future forum. Lees' Explosive power and twitch numbers were in the 'beware' category.

Post by Peebag on Mar 7, 2016 12:02:00 GMT -5

I'm mock-drafting for the Lions and the Jets on another forum. I haven't yet completed my research into the Lions' needs, but I'm seriously considering grabbing Elliott at #16 for the Lions in the mock draft. Their current running backs are terrible and they're about to lose their biggest offensive weapon. None of the wide receivers available in free agency or in the draft are a patch on Megatron so Elliott would offer the biggest upside in re-tooling the Lions' offence in the post-Johnson era.

Bottom line, I don't see Elliott lasting to #20; if Maccagnan wants Elliott, he'll have to move up to grab him.

Post by Paradis on Mar 7, 2016 20:40:27 GMT -5

I'm mock-drafting for the Lions and the Jets on another forum. I haven't yet completed my research into the Lions' needs, but I'm seriously considering grabbing Elliott at #16 for the Lions in the mock draft. Their current running backs are terrible and they're about to lose their biggest offensive weapon. None of the wide receivers available in free agency or in the draft are a patch on Megatron so Elliott would offer the biggest upside in re-tooling the Lions' offence in the post-Johnson era.

Bottom line, I don't see Elliott lasting to #20; if Maccagnan wants Elliott, he'll have to move up to grab him.

Ameer Abdullah is not terrible.

I think he is. Didn't like going into last year's draft, like him even less now. Overrated fumble machine who needs paved parking lot to make a run.

...i've had a few meltdowns today. Ready to get back to being positive and looking into the future.

Post by RobR on Mar 7, 2016 23:19:40 GMT -5

Count me in on Elliott and Decker, but I think Lee is too small to play inside in a 3-4. Didn't he weigh 232 lbs?

The NFL is leaning more and more to those speedy, lighter backs and we already know Bowles loves that type of player.

My problem with Lee is I think he is being overrated just because he checks all of the measurables boxes in what teams want nowadays. Problem is his tape highlights how slow he plays and reacts. I'd be livid if we pick him 20th overall.

Post by Aussie Jet on Mar 8, 2016 18:46:58 GMT -5

Lions have other needs than picking Elliot. They have to replace Megatron & upgrade that o-line to be specific. Colts are the only team I'm worried about.

My thinking is that picking Laquon Treadwell to replace Megatron is not going to cut the mustard. Treadwell just doesn't have the same talent that Johnson possessed. Elliott, even though he's a RB, is projected to be a three-down back who can really help an offence and is probably the best talent on that side of the ball in the draft.

I'd reckon Cooter, as the OC, would be excited to have Elliott suiting up for the Lions and help ease the transition to an offence without Megatron.

Post by Paradis on Mar 8, 2016 18:56:38 GMT -5

Lions have other needs than picking Elliot. They have to replace Megatron & upgrade that o-line to be specific. Colts are the only team I'm worried about.

Unfortunately (for us), I don't think Elliot's stock will be impacted by teams having burned picks on the likes of Abdullah, or Oak's Murray. Last year everyone that STL's Tre Mason was a revelation going into the 2015 draft. *Bam* Gurley.

You could safely write off a couple like the first 3-4 teams, and others like CHI, NOS and BUF... but i'd say there's all kinds of possibilities for Elliot... BAL, MIA, TB, NYG, OAK PHI to name a few.