A fan is a fan. You can't control the actions of 30 odd thousand people, or legislate for every one of them.

Ashley Williams, on the other hand, is an embarrassment. Lost his head completely, as a senior player, and should've been given a red. I find it a bit ridiculous that anyone's defending him.

Who even cares. He wasn't. We lost anyway. He was probably our best player. We've been defending the inept on and off all season long. Every member of that team have cost us at points this season. He could have cost us but didn't is the least of our problems

A fan is a fan. You can't control the actions of 30 odd thousand people, or legislate for every one of them.

Ashley Williams, on the other hand, is an embarrassment. Lost his head completely, as a senior player, and should've been given a red. I find it a bit ridiculous that anyone's defending him.

Yes he should've been by today's standards, but he wasn't. Just put yourself in his shoes for a moment. He's had a mare of a season, he's been criticised by his fan base on a regular basis and he's just played a part in costing his national team a chance to get to a WC. He knows how important this game is, he's become frustrated at the tactics of the opposition. Sometimes your head goes. I've done things like that on a rugby pitch in high pressure games. We're all human. We've asked for the players to show a bit of passion, they have. If Mo Besic or Gana had done it I'd support them too. Now let's see if there's a reaction against Arsenal

Really? You know that for a fact do you? You go through every post I've ever posted on here and find me an example of me ever doing anything other than supporting someone in a Blue shirt even when they are playing badly. I'll save you the time though - you won't find them. I have said he's playing badly for us on a number of occasions, but I've also said that he's playing well for Wales. However, after his part in the mistake that led to the Ireland goal I criticised him for that. In regards to last night's incident, as I have said, I would have supported any of our players who did that. I'll even put it out there now - I hate the fact that the physical aspect has gone out of football. I want to see players smash each other up and not get sent off over it. I want a mixture of the grace and skill with the power. What can I say? I'm a guy who likes physicality, I would've been right in the middle of that last night.

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Williams played well last night. He had a hand in their second goal and there was the fracas he was involved in. He played with a passion though, it's something we've been sadly lacking. If it hadn't have been for the two negative aspects of the game he was involved in, he would have been my outfield player MOM, hands down.

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Williams played well last night. He had a hand in their second goal and there was the fracas he was involved in. He played with a passion though, it's something we've been sadly lacking. If it hadn't have been for the two negative aspects of the game he was involved in, he would have been my outfield player MOM, hands down.

Really? You know that for a fact do you? You go through every post I've ever posted on here and find me an example of me ever doing anything other than supporting someone in a Blue shirt even when they are playing badly. I'll save you the time though - you won't find them. I have said he's playing badly for us on a number of occasions, but I've also said that he's playing well for Wales. However, after his part in the mistake that led to the Ireland goal I criticised him for that. In regards to last night's incident, as I have said, I would have supported any of our players who did that. I'll even put it out there now - I hate the fact that the physical aspect has gone out of football. I want to see players smash each other up and not get sent off over it. I want a mixture of the grace and skill with the power. What can I say? I'm a guy who likes physicality, I would've been right in the middle of that last night.

I don't care if he is Welsh or passionate as he is purely and simply not good enough to be playing at Everton . If you like physicality watch boxing as I don't want to watch anyone getting smashed on a sports field . Rugby players should be charged with ABH every time they smash someone in a way that would see me or you down the local plod shop .

I don't care if he is Welsh or passionate as he is purely and simply not good enough to be playing at Everton . If you like physicality watch boxing as I don't want to watch anyone getting smashed on a sports field . Rugby players should be charged with ABH every time they smash someone in a way that would see me or you down the local plod shop .