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Trench Wars Summer 2018

Historically, the summer months have always been the most difficult time to keep people logging in, for good reason. I expect this summer to be no different. We need to figure out what we can do as an entire community to keep this game off life support through the summer until ~September-ish. Some plans have already been laid out in regards to potential leagues/summer activities (I dont even know what they are yet but I know it centers around reviving TWD) but what I'm attempting to do is get CONSTRUCTIVE feedback before anything gets set in stone. What can we do as a zone to get you and maybe even a few of your friends to log in a bit this summer? Please don't respond with things like "Axe Jessup", "Kill yourself", "Pay me to play". etc. I have plenty of ideas of my own but surely there's plenty more to be heard.

You all complain about the way things are run constantly, well here is your chance to decide in advance how you want to spend your summer, should you decide to spend it with us. Do you want TSL again? Do you have unique ideas to revive twd? Should pub bux somehow be integrated more into competitive play (elim, belim, etc). Pub weekend flavors? Pizza Tournys? TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT. I can't guarantee that everyone will get what they want but I can guarantee that every 'realistic' suggestion will be considered and openly shared during the planning process.

With all that said, please keep in mind that regardless of what is done. Staff needs HELP. Not just in the planning stages but with implementation as well. A lot of the preconceived notions about Henry are just flat out wrong. He does NOT want to do everything by himself. Being staff is a hugely thankless job, I'd say moreso for our community than almost any other on the internet. People here are super quick to flame and tear apart anyone who is less than perfect while refusing to contribute anything of substance of their own. Obviously that doesnt apply to EVERYBODY, but its certainly the overwhelming majority. With just a few warm bodies to share the workload (Its more planning than anything) we can put a really good product out there for the zone.

tl;dr version:

Tell us what you want. Lets DISCUSS if its realistic and how to implement it. The only bad idea is the one you don't share. Consider helping us IMPLEMENT your plans. Staff is not hard work at all, just have to have a thick skin and lots and lots of patience.

I think 4 is more realistic than 6, play all teams twice or something like that. Who do you suggest to run it?

I see no problem with a tournament of 4 squads where the regular season table lasts a couple of months, games every Sunday, everyone plays everyone multiple times, like you said. Playoffs, Finals etc.
Obviously more squads would be preferred, but realistically 4 is still do-able.
I'd play for sure. TWD Cup was still fun for those who bothered to show up and play. Just knowing that you have a game coming up on Sunday is exciting, to those taking it somewhat seriously. I just think we need a quick revamp of the website so players have somewhere to check.

I want to log on, every evening, and play ?go base and/or ?go javduel, from about 2PM EST to 5PM EST.

If enough people want this, it's just a case of people logging on...

I don't think this is unrealistic. Every single night might be a stretch but maybe try to set some nights and certain times so people know when to login.... My concern with that would be "IF" we did get enough to play, and benched some newbies....history will just repeat itself and nobody will bother leaving pub to play

I don't think this is unrealistic. Every single night might be a stretch but maybe try to set some nights and certain times so people know when to login.... My concern with that would be "IF" we did get enough to play, and benched some newbies....history will just repeat itself and nobody will bother leaving pub to play

Another factor was the cram made basing a bit stale. After a year or two of cramming we really should have changed the map a bit for some freshness.

you can run it since you seem to want to make a difference and have experience. trying to get signups would be the first step to see if its even possible

I think it would be possible, BUT only if the lower star group gets more play time even... I mean most of the 9+ stars from last season disappeared already and I am not even sure if they will return. I know some of them definately will, cripple and u for example. I am sure Tiny, Commodo and some other will play too.
Or it would be all about spreading the high stars over the teams, cuz I am sure none of us is waiting for another few stacked teams vs some worthless teams.

I want to log on, every evening, and play ?go base and/or ?go javduel, from about 2PM EST to 5PM EST.

If enough people want this, it's just a case of people logging on...

Agree 100% and I'm the same. I want to know the start time and login with others ready to play. This worked for TSL so it can work here.

I suppose we just need to make everyone aware of the start time. I'd show up most days for an evening of gameplay.

The only problem I see is that if we advertise this as multiple events then they might go against each other. ?go base competing against ?go javduel resulting in neither being able to start. We could come up with a schedule but it's tricky to move everyone somewhere else, they might want to just continue with javduel and base gets neglected.

I think the first step could be to openly advertise that javduel will be starting every week night from 2PM EST. Let this become a trend, set in stone, and take it from there?

I suggest an easy 1v1 2v2 duel league given the population and the failure of competitive 3v3 4v4 in the cup. Get solid competition at that level and then it will grow. Plus you can get a 1v1 literally anytime.

I suggest an easy 1v1 2v2 duel league given the population and the failure of competitive 3v3 4v4 in the cup. Get solid competition at that level and then it will grow. Plus you can get a 1v1 literally anytime.

This should be easily doable. In fact I already have a specific person in mind who not only COULD do this but would probably enjoy doing it.

I'm gonna keep taking in ideas and I'll summarize at the end of the thread, but bare in mind a lot of these suggestions, albeit good ones, require a human element to make them work

This next league is the most crucial for tw it's either gonna help the zone live another year or this summer will be last. Don't pick wrong or you'll be the next eg.

@Glyde I don't think so. I mean, Henry and Co. did a number on the zone with this last league and people still log on. They could botch the next league and people will still play unfortunately. A large part of EG's demise was FC, there are too many dedicated hard working staffers in TW to allow their zone to fall anytime soon. That could change of course but for now we are fine.

I do hope this next big summer event is done properly though, I think staff are actively trying to receive and utilize player feedback after the disaster twd cup was.

@Wirah. Right on man, thanks for letting me know. I look forward to seeing what the future brings next. Keep up the hard work.

@Glyde I don't think so. I mean, Henry and Co. did a number on the zone with this last league and people still log on. They could botch the next league and people will still play unfortunately. A large part of EG's demise was FC, there are too many dedicated hard working staffers in TW to allow their zone to fall anytime soon. That could change of course but for now we are fine.

I do hope this next big summer event is done properly though, I think staff are actively trying to receive and utilize player feedback after the disaster twd cup was.

@Wirah. Right on man, thanks for letting me know. I look forward to seeing what the future brings next. Keep up the hard work.

Best shot as Zidane said earlier, would be another TWDT, or some type of form of it.
TSL doesnít interest me and neither does this fantasy TWD cup.
I find more interest being drafted onto a team and performing on Sundays. Iím sure other vets find the same mutual interest as I do.
Unfortunately, players such as myself will not dedicate a frequent amount of time throughout the week to play this. But I can definitely show up for a day for a few hours. As Iím sure others can too.
But, we need to see how many people will signup for the draft to have an idea of what we are dealing with, and have someone who is willing to dedicate the amount of time to run a draft league.
I understand a lot of you hate Ogron, but the amount of time and passion he put into the last few draft leagues with his HONs, organization, and structure has been like no other draft league we have done in the recent years.
Someone like Ogron is needed for people to be interested in logging in. I like seeing the drama, the HONs, the beef. It motivates me to logon. And thatís what we need.
But if we do end up doing some type of draft league, I will message everyone I have on my contacts to signup. Iím sure they will have time to at least logon once on sundays.

Theres some good ideas in here....and I am absolutely all for setting somebody up for success to do these things but I am still running into the same problem....who? I simply can't do it. I will not be here. Ogron is off the table as well, even if he did return. He cannot be trusted with any sort of power. I'm hoping if I keep pointing it out SOMEBODY will step up. As stated in my first post, the hardest part of being staff is the constant PLANNING and even with the most perfect plans somebody will always find something to complain about. The actual effort of doing the leagues is extremely easy, albeit time consuming. Is it the current staff ruining the game for some people? Or is it the lack of quality/capable staffers willing to help?

Hopefully I can get some pub input on this thread as well, as I don't want to become one dimensional and focus on competitive play only

I agree with everything cripple put - organised, competitive games on a sunday is what will drag a lot of vets back. A lot of us can't play more than once/twice a week but want to play in the main leagues too. Removing the only competitive aspects of the game and nullifying the point of anyone logging in once a week (can't compete in TSL or TWD Cup without playing about 5 times a week) means you're excluding large parts of the community, and only catering to Sulake/Paladen.