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i reall dont understand why but i'm finding All season's are cheaper then summer tires in some cases. For example eagle F1's are aboput $300 a tire and the all season Eagle F1's are 186 each???

It usually is the case. Think of it this way the allseasons are jack of all trades but master of none. If you dont care about performance and worry about tire wear... then allseasons are for you. IF your into performance I would highly recommend getting dedicated summers as they will blow the allseasons in all performance aspects.

Any all-season tire is a compromise, unless you're ultimate goal is to hit 100,000km on a set of tires. If you're worried about performance get either summer performance tires for the summer, and all-season or preferably winter performance tires for the snow.

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If you want really good performance tires expect to change them often. It's almost a rule that if they have really good grip you will pay a lot and they won't last you long. I remember a sales guy telling me the more you pay the better the grip will be but you'll be back often.

I use Falken and rear tires last me only one season (spring/summer) fronts I change in the spring and then mid summer next season.

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Guys, there are all seasons and then there are all seasons. You can't take a joe schmoe all season and compare it to a summer tire. Take an ultra high performance all season and then do the comparison. Unless you track, I guarantee you'll be very happy with an uhp all season tire. That's what I use in place of summers, along with dedicated winters.

I am personally looking into Falken 452 and yokohama S drive in the size of 225/45/17
Both of them are summer tires and the only cost $500-600 a set.

Did anyone use any of these 2 tires before?

Bro if you're putting these on an e36, do not get this size!! They are too big (too tall). They will be 0.3 inches too tall compared to the stock 205/60/15. I don't understand why everyone keeps getting 225/45/17, are they cheaper or something?

Get 235/40/17 , that is the right size, even though I noticed it's 0.3 inches too short, but at least it doesn't rub, and this is the tire size listed on the door jam for 17s

245/40/17 would be exactly the same overall diameter as 205/60/15 which is 24.7 inches.

On another note, europrince makes an interesting point. So quality all season tires will be pretty good performers but last longer than dedicated summer performance tires?

Bro if you're putting these on an e36, do not get this size!! They are too big (too tall). They will be 0.3 inches too tall compared to the stock 205/60/15. I don't understand why everyone keeps getting 225/45/17, are they cheaper or something?

Get 235/40/17 , that is the right size, even though I noticed it's 0.3 inches too short, but at least it doesn't rub, and this is the tire size listed on the door jam for 17s

245/40/17 would be exactly the same overall diameter as 205/60/15 which is 24.7 inches.

On another note, europrince makes an interesting point. So quality all season tires will be pretty good performers but last longer than dedicated summer performance tires?

first of all, I have a E46 with stock size 205/50/17
The difference between 205/50/17 and 225/45/17 is only 0.4% different.

Secondly, I didnt say I am going to put these tires on my E46 since I havent figure out whether I will buy 17" or 18" rims for it.