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He might not be at the level of subban but I would not call MDZ garbage at all.

That's because you see his pt totals and aren't aware that he's responsible for a number of goals against his team. He's like Matt Carle. Good on the stat sheet but I'd hold my breath if there was a 3on2 on him

More like Strome + Reinhart. Sounds steep, but you're trading for a young proven top pairing D who could become a legitimate #1 / potential future Norris contender. Montreal can throw in a lesser forward/forward prospect to balance it out.

Strome and Reinhart are both prospects at this point. Maybe both become top line material, maybe one does and the other is 3rd line material, maybe both only become second line material players. Really hard to say. But there are multiple scenarios where Montreal walks off with only a decent return, but the NYI are guaranteed a top pairing D.

I'm in the camp that thinks PK should get a shorter term deal, but still get paid well (i.e. 2-3 years for $3.5 million-ish). I think I could also live with a reasonable longer term contract (6 years, $4-5 million). However, I do think its funny to note that before this contract issue popped up, many journalists and non-Habs fans spent a lot of time emphasizing PK's flaws or talking about personality issues, or how weak he is defensively, etc. Its just kinda funny to now see a lot of those same people saying that he is being low-balled or that the Habs need him so much, or he should be paid like a star. It will be interesting to see all these people go back to bashing/undervaluing Subban when he does finally re-sign with the Habs.

Repeat my last post: What type of offer sheet would it take for Montreal to walk away from Subban?

I think it would have to come from a team that has a reasonable hope of drafting top-10, and it has to hit the threshold for 4 1st round picks as compensation.

Obviously, the Habs match anything on the $6.7M range that only gives 1st,2nd,3rd.

The $6.7-$8.4M range at 1st-1st-2nd-3rd is maybe dubious. But you don't take that compensation for 20th overall picks.

So I'm thinking it's the over $8.4M. So that's like a deal over $42M total. Although even then, if there is a 7 year limit on RFA deals and the offer sheet is out to that 7 years, that's actually a lower cap hit than the compensation table value, so the Habs may still match.

Basically, I don't think there is any chance of an offer sheet working here. It would have to be a trade.