Comments on: The vilification of Dan LeBatard is well underwayhttp://mlb.nbcsports.com/2014/01/09/the-vilification-of-dan-lebetard-is-well-underway/
Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball.Fri, 09 Dec 2016 17:21:08 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: realitypolicehttp://mlb.nbcsports.com/2014/01/09/the-vilification-of-dan-lebetard-is-well-underway/comment-page-3/#comment-638878
Fri, 10 Jan 2014 16:21:02 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=508483#comment-638878I didn’t hear him on the DP Show, so I am not sure what he said there. But on other outlets, including his own radio and TV shows, he did not say that he regretted doing it, he just regretted the timing of going public. In retrospect he wishes he had waited awhile so that he would not take the spotlight away from the inductees.
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Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:06:22 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=508483#comment-638707Prescient as usual, cur. They got the knives out with record speed. Screw over Craig Biggio – ha ha see you next year. Go sacred cow-tipping? Death by drowning in a sea of blue rinse.
]]>By: unclemosesgreenhttp://mlb.nbcsports.com/2014/01/09/the-vilification-of-dan-lebetard-is-well-underway/#comment-638703
Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:03:04 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=508483#comment-638703He only doused his ballot & one year of membership. He should have just channelled Groucho Marx, dropped the mic and exited stage left.

“I wouldn’t want to belong to any club that would have me as a member anyway.”

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Fri, 10 Jan 2014 12:59:10 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=508483#comment-638702Troll comment, adds nothing. Deliberately inflammatory.
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Fri, 10 Jan 2014 12:58:20 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=508483#comment-638701You’re the Skip Bayless of this comment section. Contrary, insensate and loud about it. It would be one thing if you were helping people examine their preconceptions and double-check the rationality of their thought. But you aren’t. You’re just another braying ass.
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Fri, 10 Jan 2014 05:29:41 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=508483#comment-638654As craig said i also wonder how this would have been treated if dan lebatard had placed a poll online then proceeded to cast his vote as the poll indicated. This seems no different than that, and i doubt it would have drawn any discipline. I believe the blank ballots and the ones that blatantly stink of homerism like the single vote ballot that had jack morris on it was worse than what lebatard had done. Since they suspended lebatard i cannot wait to see the reasoning for not suspending a biased voter and one who does not care enough about his vote to look into whether a player had taken steroids or not. There is no way the blank ballot casters are making an informed decision. Willful ignorance should never be tolerated.
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Fri, 10 Jan 2014 04:49:17 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=508483#comment-638643Oh!!! He gained Twitter followers. OK well as long as the ends justifies the means!
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Fri, 10 Jan 2014 04:45:29 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=508483#comment-638641Read what I said. Coming out on espn to drive viewership would have been the pr play there. Not just posting an article on deadspin about what he did. Espn could’ve lined up an exclusive interview with the anonymous deadspin voter and teased the lead all morning and brought him on 2 minutes after the announcement and stole the show in a far bigger way than even this. Now that’s a pr stunt. If this was a pr stunt…he needs to hire me as hisar guy, cuz the guy he has sucks.
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Fri, 10 Jan 2014 04:37:48 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=508483#comment-638636I scroll past LeBatard’s show on my Sirius every day. But tomorrow, I think I’ll check it out. I wish he hadn’t apologized, I totally respect his move.

Given the idiot votes of some of his peers, my guess is his ballot – that of a collective – is probably the most honest and accurate.

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Fri, 10 Jan 2014 03:54:16 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=508483#comment-638619I can tell, which is why media should not have a say in this. Hire a panel, let them decide, like Football HOF does. It just seems like they take advantage of the system here.
]]>By: chip56http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2014/01/09/the-vilification-of-dan-lebetard-is-well-underway/comment-page-2/#comment-638617
Fri, 10 Jan 2014 03:50:14 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=508483#comment-638617How is what LeBetard did any different than what the other writers like Gomez, Chass or Noble did?

Didn’t they all, in one way or another, thumb their nose at the voting system? Didn’t they all, through their actions, show what a sham it is and that it needs some serious reform? Why is LeBetard viewed differently? Because he gave his vote to “the people”?

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Fri, 10 Jan 2014 03:37:37 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=508483#comment-638611Unless he broke explicit rules – not gentleman’s rules but written rules for voting – what’s the problem? If the BBWAA doesn’t like what LeBatard did, too bad. If they don’t want voters to utilize their vote the way LeBatard did, then make an explicit rule preventing it. There’s isn’t anything complicated about this. He simply did something a bunch of people didn’t like. So what? I don’t have any problem with what LeBatard did and, in fact, I applaud him. It’s like you giving a kid a ball and when he kicks the ball instead of throwing it, you take it away from him. Did you tell him he wasn’t allowed to kick it? If not, then shame on you. Don’t punish the kid for your inability to make it clear what he can and can’t do with it. LeBatard knew what he was doing and knew it would draw the ire of the BBWAA, but that’s beside the point.
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Fri, 10 Jan 2014 03:31:52 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=508483#comment-638607LeBetard appears on television shows, radio shows and still writes pretty regularly. You mean to tell me that with all those platforms THIS was the only way he could make his point about the HOF voting system? I don’t buy it.

Why not take it up at the BBWAA dinner in December when the group put cards on the table about a lot of issues that the writers had with the process (including the 10 player limit and the blank ballots) why not go on the air and make a stink about it? ATTENTION. This was unique which meant it would get him all the attention he wanted.

]]>By: chip56http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2014/01/09/the-vilification-of-dan-lebetard-is-well-underway/comment-page-2/#comment-638603
Fri, 10 Jan 2014 03:17:45 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=508483#comment-638603Oh, and no, I won’t stop calling it a PR stunt because it WAS a PR stunt. It’s like calling water wet or fire hot.
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Fri, 10 Jan 2014 03:17:01 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=508483#comment-6386021) He gained over 8,000 twitter followers in the hours immediately following the revelation that he was the voter. In a world like LeBetard’s there’s no such thing as “too much PR”

2) Yes you absolutely do it for free. If he had gotten paid for it then it is a much worse story and you can’t take the moral high ground by saying “you did it because you were disenfranchised” rather you’re stuck with “he did it because they paid him to”

Beyond that, it would be bad business for ESPN to buy one of their reporter’s votes because then you put the other guys on your staff in a bad position. Play it out, “Buster Olney, you say you take your vote seriously but you work for a company that bought a vote so that they could open it up to the public. How do you feel about that?” Olney is now stuck either criticizing his company or saying ‘meh, no biggie.”

My question I suppose is what did he really risk? The BBWAA took away a vote he didn’t want. He gained 8,000 followers on twitter in the hours after he came out as the voter who “donated” his vote to Deadspin which likely makes him more valuable to his employers at ESPN.

End of the day, the sooner this stops being a story the happier I’ll be.

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Fri, 10 Jan 2014 03:06:36 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=508483#comment-638593I don’t believe that Chass, Gurnick, Noble or LeBetard make up a huge portion of the BBWAA. In any large group you’re going to have your asshats, don’t like a vocal minority taint the image of the whole.
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Fri, 10 Jan 2014 03:01:11 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=508483#comment-638587so giving your vote to (a subset of) the fans is just as bad as using your vote as a tool to piss off bloggers or deny anyone a unanimous election or to punish people about whom you’ve invented PED rumors? really?
]]>By: benrob99http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2014/01/09/the-vilification-of-dan-lebetard-is-well-underway/comment-page-3/#comment-638496
Fri, 10 Jan 2014 00:39:25 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=508483#comment-638496Lebatard is a jackass. Who would guess making a mockery of the process would induce ridicule??? You people sicken me for defending this idiot.
]]>By: davidpom50http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2014/01/09/the-vilification-of-dan-lebetard-is-well-underway/comment-page-2/#comment-638451
Thu, 09 Jan 2014 23:43:53 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=508483#comment-638451“it’s about another writer, in a different way”

“What LeBetard did was different, but no better, than what several other writers have done in the last two years”

Pretty sure he made it very clear that he’s not condoning the Chasses and Gurnicks of the world, just putting LeBatard’s stunt in the same category.