bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Matt: Hah, hah..........if Johan is Mad.......what should we think of you as most likely the last person to disengage with him.......if you ever do. You have a remarkable tenacity.........tolerance to the stupid...... what would you call it?

So who changed slavery into our present day acceptance of other nations?

Nikki Nyx wrote:Are you so ignorant that you believe slavery has been abolished around the world? It hasn't.

Yep. I know about those that are too stubborn to accept the Truth.

Nikki Nyx wrote:Also, what 'present day acceptance of other nations?' Most humans remain horribly xenophobic.

Yep. We need to elevate them from their "human-ness".

Nikki Nyx wrote: Your question has nothing to do with my statement. The judges rule this as another dodge.

The judge should not rule before the judge has all the evidence.

But we are into God's actions. He relieved the world of slavery. Those that saw the better society life and the additional raise of human behavior and existence benefit and are more happy. And the stubborn ones are still not benefiting and stay in their low quality human life with the resulting unhappiness.

So now we move on. God is now here to remove slavery here as He did in the past.

Johan wrote:But we are into God's actions. He relieved the world of slavery.

He not only condoned slavery, he advocated for it...

44 “‘As for your male and female slaves who may belong to you – you may buy male and female slaves from the nations all around you. 45 Also you may buy slaves from the children of the foreigners who reside with you, and from their families that are with you, whom they have fathered in your land, they may become your property. 46 You may give them as inheritance to your children after you to possess as property. You may enslave them perpetually. However, as for your brothers the Israelites, no man may rule over his brother harshly. — Leviticus 25:44-46

How to make someone your slave forever...

2 “If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years, but in the seventh year he will go out free without paying anything. 3 If he came in by himself he will go out by himself; if he had a wife when he came in, then his wife will go out with him. 4 If his master gave him a wife, and she bore sons or daughters, the wife and the children will belong to her master, and he will go out by himself. 5 But if the servant should declare, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free,’ 6 then his master must bring him to the judges, and he will bring him to the door or the doorposts, and his master will pierce his ear with an awl, and he shall serve him forever. — Exodus 21:2-6

Sell your own children into slavery...

7 “If a man sells his daughter as a female servant, she will not go out as the male servants do. 8 If she does not please her master, who has designated her for himself, then he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to a foreign nation, because he has dealt deceitfully with her. 9 If he designated her for his son, then he will deal with her according to the customary rights of daughters. 10 If he takes another wife, he must not diminish the first one’s food, her clothing, or her marital rights. 11 If he does not provide her with these three things, then she will go out free, without paying money. — Exodus 21:7-11

It's fine to beat your slaves as long as you don't kill them...

20 “If a man strikes his male servant or his female servant with a staff so that he or she dies as a result of the blow, he will surely be punished. 21 However, if the injured servant survives one or two days, the owner will not be punished, for he has suffered the loss. — Exodus 21:20-21

And lest you mistakenly believe Jesus was any better, he directed slaves to obey without question...

5 Slaves, obey your human masters with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart as to Christ, 6 not like those who do their work only when someone is watching – as people-pleasers – but as slaves of Christ doing the will of God from the heart. 7 Obey with enthusiasm, as though serving the Lord and not people, 8 because you know that each person, whether slave or free, if he does something good, this will be rewarded by the Lord. — Ephesians 6:5-8

1 Those who are under the yoke as slaves must regard their own masters as deserving of full respect. This will prevent the name of God and Christian teaching from being discredited. — 1 Timothy 6:1

And also described the appropriate way to beat your slaves...

47 That servant who knew his master’s will but did not get ready or do what his master asked will receive a severe beating. 48 But the one who did not know his master’s will and did things worthy of punishment will receive a light beating. — Luke 12:47-48

"Science is a way of thinking much more than it is a body of knowledge."—Carl Sagan

"Every philosophy is tinged with the coloring of some secret imaginative background, which never emerges explicitly into its train of reasoning."—Alfred North Whitehead

"Knowledge belongs to humanity, and is the torch which illuminates the world."—Louis Pasteur

I give you another Child(to be). A very interesting one. That I released from his "ghost" status. And he enjoys being with me. At this stage with the wrong intentions. But never mind that. He enjoys his new found Freedom with His Mother. I want to take you into it as well.

Is that because you are both mad and spamming religious nonsense on an atheist skeptic forum? Or is it because you are both really dumb?

Neither. He’s lying about me. I’ve been openly critical of him for being a liar since I first started interacting with him. He cannot be trusted. If you follow one of his links to the “God and Superman” discussion on the Skeptics’ Guide to the Universe forum and read my posts you’ll get a nice summary of some of his abusive behavior in the past.

Based upon what I know of him I’m tempted to describe him as a David Koresh wanna-be that lacks that monster’s ability to gather followers, but I think that comparison would be unduly harsh upon the late Mr. Koresh.

Is that because you are both mad and spamming religious nonsense on an atheist skeptic forum? Or is it because you are both really dumb?

Neither. He’s lying about me. I’ve been openly critical of him for being a liar since I first started interacting with him. He cannot be trusted. If you follow one of his links to the “God and Superman” discussion on the Skeptics’ Guide to the Universe forum and read my posts you’ll get a nice summary of some of his abusive behavior in the past.

Based upon what I know of him I’m tempted to describe him as a David Koresh wanna-be that lacks that monster’s ability to gather followers, but I think that comparison would be unduly harsh upon the late Mr. Koresh.

That's alright. None of us read his posts as they are too incoherent. He also got banned from the International Skeptics Forum, further indicating he's a mere insane troll.

Halleyscomet wrote:If you follow one of his links to the “God and Superman” discussion on the Skeptics’ Guide to the Universe forum and read my posts you’ll get a nice summary of some of his abusive behavior in the past.

Johan wrote:But we are into God's actions. He relieved the world of slavery.

He not only condoned slavery, he advocated for it...

44 “‘As for your male and female slaves who may belong to you – you may buy male and female slaves from the nations all around you. 45 Also you may buy slaves from the children of the foreigners who reside with you, and from their families that are with you, whom they have fathered in your land, they may become your property. 46 You may give them as inheritance to your children after you to possess as property. You may enslave them perpetually. However, as for your brothers the Israelites, no man may rule over his brother harshly. — Leviticus 25:44-46

How to make someone your slave forever...

2 “If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years, but in the seventh year he will go out free without paying anything. 3 If he came in by himself he will go out by himself; if he had a wife when he came in, then his wife will go out with him. 4 If his master gave him a wife, and she bore sons or daughters, the wife and the children will belong to her master, and he will go out by himself. 5 But if the servant should declare, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free,’ 6 then his master must bring him to the judges, and he will bring him to the door or the doorposts, and his master will pierce his ear with an awl, and he shall serve him forever. — Exodus 21:2-6

Sell your own children into slavery...

7 “If a man sells his daughter as a female servant, she will not go out as the male servants do. 8 If she does not please her master, who has designated her for himself, then he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to a foreign nation, because he has dealt deceitfully with her. 9 If he designated her for his son, then he will deal with her according to the customary rights of daughters. 10 If he takes another wife, he must not diminish the first one’s food, her clothing, or her marital rights. 11 If he does not provide her with these three things, then she will go out free, without paying money. — Exodus 21:7-11

It's fine to beat your slaves as long as you don't kill them...

20 “If a man strikes his male servant or his female servant with a staff so that he or she dies as a result of the blow, he will surely be punished. 21 However, if the injured servant survives one or two days, the owner will not be punished, for he has suffered the loss. — Exodus 21:20-21

And lest you mistakenly believe Jesus was any better, he directed slaves to obey without question...

5 Slaves, obey your human masters with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart as to Christ, 6 not like those who do their work only when someone is watching – as people-pleasers – but as slaves of Christ doing the will of God from the heart. 7 Obey with enthusiasm, as though serving the Lord and not people, 8 because you know that each person, whether slave or free, if he does something good, this will be rewarded by the Lord. — Ephesians 6:5-8

1 Those who are under the yoke as slaves must regard their own masters as deserving of full respect. This will prevent the name of God and Christian teaching from being discredited. — 1 Timothy 6:1

And also described the appropriate way to beat your slaves...

47 That servant who knew his master’s will but did not get ready or do what his master asked will receive a severe beating. 48 But the one who did not know his master’s will and did things worthy of punishment will receive a light beating. — Luke 12:47-48

Actually you do the same. You do not teach your child something that he is not ready to do. You wait until he reach that point where he can understand and accept and do it. At that stage the human beings could never fathom such an idea. So it was not important to teach them that at that stage. He was unto other things that was more important for them at the stage of development they were in. And He only started on that topic a 1000 years later if I am correct. Then the human race has advanced enough to see and do the necessary changes. But even then you will see that in some countries they took some more hundreds of years to fall in. They were obviously not so advanced than others in happy human existence.

So now we andvance further. For instance to tell you now to open all the prisons and set everybody free is not the time. But God will get to that eventually. At this stage He is just starting to removing punishment. As it advances we will get to that stage of "happy human existence".

I am already busy with that in Robertson for 17 years now. So in this specific development in human history it is about stopping with punishment.

You can not comprehend what I say now.

But God already showed us that right in the beginning when he set Kain free.

Gen 4:15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

Murderers etc. are to be set free. Of course up to now God has given many "rules" how to handle them. Until the time of setting everyone free.

But as I said. Do not worry. It will not just be forced on you. Although me and God know it we will move slowly with you. Bit by bit. So let us start from the beginning with this issue.

I actually followed your link this time. One photo of you with another person calling you "Mother" is not evidence. But halleyscomet's post at that link was incredibly educational. You are mad, and not in the Wonderland way.

Although I believe I may have said this to you already, I'll say it again: repeating nonsense does not make it factual. If I repeatedly claim to be a unicorn, and offer as proof one photo of me labeled "unicorn," neither of these things proves I'm a unicorn. My obvious facility with the English language and ability to type pretty much guarantee I'm not a unicorn. Not to mention I lack the requisite horn.

"Science is a way of thinking much more than it is a body of knowledge."—Carl Sagan

"Every philosophy is tinged with the coloring of some secret imaginative background, which never emerges explicitly into its train of reasoning."—Alfred North Whitehead

"Knowledge belongs to humanity, and is the torch which illuminates the world."—Louis Pasteur

Its more than rare that two irrational people can communicate with each other. Mouth sounds back and forth don't cut it.

Real Name: bobbo the existential pragmatic evangelical anti-theist and Class Warrior.Asking: What is the most good for the most people?Sample Issue: Should the Feds provide all babies with free diapers?

Johan develops a severe psychiatric disease and starts thinking he is God's wife, although he is a male.Johan starts harassing local church members so they get a court order against him,Johan's wife and two children get a court order against him after he attacks them,Johan is sent to a non voluntary psychiatrist hospital by authorities for a while Johan is released as he isn't getting better, but is not a harm to himself or others,Johan is banned from his home town and starts trolling internet forums to tell the world he is Mrs God

Johan's no different to Highflyertoo, who came here and told us he was Emmanuel, the real Jesus. They are both just bat-shit crazy

If I was that then it would have been evident in my society. And I gave you myself and my actual life. So you would be able to give evidence to that statement. Look around and see if you can find. Because at this stage it is just your opinion.