My first guess for "secret longtime buds band" was Black Lips, but they're on tour in Europe. Bradord is definitely "friends" with Grizzly Bear, but I don't know about "longtime", so my new guess is Yeah Yeah Yeahs, but maybe that's just wishful thinking. I was also thinking maybe Deerhunter, though I'm not 100% sure why they wouldn't just say Deerhunter. Maybe it's because Deerhunter aren't supposed to play any other advertised shows before their next one in Brooklyn. Any other ideas?

Well the guy who said it was 100% Deerhunter is right on the money. I just got back from Cinders where I bought a ticket. The front of the ticket says "Secret Deerhunter Show". They did not look like they had a tremendous amount of tickets for sale so i am assuming this will be in a small place instead of the obvious Market Hotel. That would also explain why only letting ticket buyers know by email the night of the show. Should be excellent. Deerhunter previewing their new material.

"why can't Cinders get a dollar per ticket for their trouble? That hardly seems unreasonable."

It's not unreasonable, but it's perception. If you can ONLY get the ticket at Cinders, then why say the ticket is $8.00 when it costs $9.00. They should just say the ticket is $9.00. If $1.00 of that goes to Cinders, GREAT, but I don't care. The ticket price is $9.00 unless I can get it somewhere else for $8.00. That's where Ticketmaster went wrong. People bitch more about ticket service charges than they do about ticket prices and half the time Ticketmaster is the only place to get tickets, so...see above.

hey 7:37. your "point" is tedious and ridiculous. nobody sells tickets for free. why not be pleased that these tickets are being sold for a cheap price at an independent space? your argument is pointless and boring.

if 7:37 had his way, then all those very high Ticketmaster fees would also be "included" in the ticket price - no-one would ever know how much Ticketmaster is screwing them, it would be swept under the table.

" no-one would ever know how much Ticketmaster is screwing them, it would be swept under the table."

What's the difference how much ticketmaster makes vs how much the promoter and band make? Ticketmaster doesn't choose to sell the tickets. The band and promoter choose to sell the tickets through Ticketmater. Ticketmatser is not screwing you. The band and promoter is screwing you. At the end of the day you paid what you paid, and how much of that money went to Ticketmaster is irrelevant.....unless you can get the tickets at a box office somewhere cheaper. Then it is relevant.

the problem is not that Ticketmaster charges a service charge, because they are in fact providing a service. RATHER, the problem with Ticketmaster is that they have a monopoly and charge WAY TOO MUCH.

There's nothing wrong with Cinders charging a dollar a head, it makes them relatively little money for their trouble, and it's about appropriate for the amount of effort and organization they have to provide.

understand now? Ticketmaster did not "get into trouble" by charging a service fee, they got into trouble by charging TOO MUCH. If those Ticketmaster fees had been hidden in the ticket price all these years, then you never would have known Ticketmaster was ripping you off, would you?

Ticketmaster has exclusive deals with VENUES. bands have no option as to whether the tickets for a show are sold through Ticketmaster or not. Bands and promoters also have no say in how much of a service charge Ticketmaster charges.

if you want to play in New York and you draw more than, say, 600 people, then you have virtually no choice but to play in New York at a venue that sells its tickets exclusively through Ticketmaster or it's subsidiary Ticketweb.

Do you understand now? Ticketmaster has a monopoly and they charge whatever they want. The problem isn't THAT they charge, it's WHAT they charge,

"There's nothing wrong with Cinders charging a dollar a head, it makes them relatively little money for their trouble, and it's about appropriate for the amount of effort and organization they have to provide."

There is something wrong with it. They should charge more than $1.00 so they can stay in business so they can be there next time Todd P needs somewhere to sell tickets.

1.) Realize that for some unknown reason, at least one if not many people find it amusing to frustrate and confuse people on this site by erroneously stating that certain shows are "SOLD OUT" whether they are or not, and thus, I'd cease relying on these comments for those types of answers.

2.) "Eliminate the middle man" (which in this scenario is every commentor on this site) and wait until Wednesday to either call or visit Cinders Gallery directly. They will be your only reliable source for whether they are out of tickets to this show or not.

what the fuck does that even mean? Are you implying that Bowery Presents people give a shit about this? I would say that the answer to your question is probably yes, they have plenty of better things to do. I know lots of people that work for Bowery Presents and I've never heard a single one mention anything about Todd P shows.