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ochopika

julesvern97 wrote:I suppose it depends on what "pop culture" is. The book is circa 1925. It's a tough call. Would a new movie on Romeo and Juliet mean that was pop culture now, and for how long?

I ran with the idea that pop-culture was Star Wars, Dr. Who, etc.

I'd think that pop culture would include anything in current movies, t.v, music, ect... since it's now a brand new movie, I'd think this would be included. The Hobbit was written in 1937 sooo... is that also not pop?

julesvern97

ochopika wrote:I'd think that pop culture would include anything in current movies, t.v, music, ect... since it's now a brand new movie, I'd think this would be included. The Hobbit was written in 1937 sooo... is that also not pop?

I'm not sure. It's a good question. I don't think of The Hobbit (or LOTR) as pop culture, even it is popular *in* culture now. I associate it with an older book I read as a child. It's a tough call. We'll just have to let them decide.

lyonscc

ochopika wrote:I'd think that pop culture would include anything in current movies, t.v, music, ect... since it's now a brand new movie, I'd think this would be included. The Hobbit was written in 1937 sooo... is that also not pop?

Just to add my $0.02 - Without the title (which isn't on the shirt), this is just two cats in 20's garb and a nice Art Deco backdrop.

There's no props that actually *identify* the design as being related to TGG (i.e. no Rolls-Royce w/ a dead cat behind it, a smoking gun, etc.) As I read the Derby theme, the Roaring Twenties came to mind, which (if we published our collaboration email thread) was where the idea came from.

I don't remember who gave the guideline, but a good test for "pop culture" is "if you need to know an outside source reference to understand the design, it's probably Pop Culture." As it is, you don't need to know the Great Gatsby to understand the 20's night scene...

ochopika

julesvern97 wrote:I'm not sure. It's a good question. I don't think of The Hobbit (or LOTR) as pop culture, even it is popular *in* culture now. I associate it with an older book I read as a child. It's a tough call. We'll just have to let them decide.

Yea, I see how it wouldn't seem like pop if it wasn't "big and flashy" when you were most familiar with it. Anyways, yes it is up to them. Good luck!

jezzebelljc

This is a fantastic design! I really like the blue fridge light effect. I must admit that you have a much healthier fridge than I do though :D Mine would have salsa and water with some cheese and yogurt.

tomspc

tomspc

ochopika wrote:The art is nice and I like the style, but how is it not pop-culture? It's definitely referencing something that just got turned into a movie...again.

Actually TGG movie is not new, it's a remake. The original movie came out in 1974, starring Robert Redford and Mia Farrow.

Just because 2 cats are dressed in 20s garb does not make it The Great Gatsby. What about the disco cat?...is that John Travolta from Saturday Night Fever? I mean you can take most of these designs and tie it to some pop culture reference. I think calling this shirt TGG is a stretch.

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