This is a discussion on 08 civic si w/bolts on vs 04 stage 2 within the Comparison: WRX vs World forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Are we talking about an sti or wrx?
Yes, their are some very fast FI hondas out there. But this ...

Yes, their are some very fast FI hondas out there. But this op says w/ bolt ons...ie Intake, exhaust, pulleys, etc.

When a stage 2 wrx has intake, tbe, and some sort of tuning or reflash.

Im just saying the stage 2 will take any bolt on honda.... as long as the bolt ons dont include turbo or SC.. cause thous are truly not bolt ons. Find me a 280whp honda w/ only bolt ons.

well they arn't welded on are they? so what if they swap in a engine thats stock? i'm lost....

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Bolt-on

Not touching the internals of the motor or trans. If you FI a honda, I would hope, you would build the motor>>> if not you might beat a wrx once or twice, as well as a STI. But bolt ons are bolt ons. I've taken my wrx from stock(184whp) to Stage ?(286whp protuned) with a stock muffler(axleback), intake, and bcs. I have recently changed the intake, cbe, and alot more lil stuff.

....and I've owned two different hondas, and a DSM.

Changing a motor is one thing. But to me bolt ons don't include ITB's or turbos on a n/a motor. Once you touch the internals it's know a build.... noo....

How about weight?
How about factoring in drivetrain loss?
How about gear ratios?
How about powerband?
How about grip/putting it to the ground?How about the biggest factor, the driver.
I could go on for days. . .

Just because you have more power doesn't mean you're faster.

I love how people knock hondas. People have been tinkering with them before most of you were even born.

How about weight?
How about factoring in drivetrain loss?
How about gear ratios?
How about powerband?
How about grip/putting it to the ground?How about the biggest factor, the driver.
I could go on for days. . .

Just because you have more power doesn't mean you're faster.

I love how people knock hondas. People have been tinkering with them before most of you were even born.

well with my 05 v6 6 speed accord, from 25 roll i raced a I/H/E and kproed rsx-s. by end of third gear i was aobut 1.5 cars ahead. and fourth gear i started really pulling hard.

and when i raced a stock sti from 45 roll, i pulled about a car until 80 mph.

considering stage 2 wrx and sti are close, it should be very close race

A stage 2 base wrx and a I/RH/E SI from a roll will be a drivers race from a roll. I've been there and have done that..... The SI with those mods are good for 200-210 whp. The wrx is good for 225-235 whp and the wrx weighs in a little more obviously being AWD.

well the thing is its my brother who i raced. and maybe its just that my accord is freak or something, lol but it will pull away from tl type s's aswell. and when my sti was stock, i drove that and raced a tl-s from 45 roll, and he walked me.

but i promise u, i shat all over stock sti's with an accord. everybody always underestimates the grocery getter accord, but there are people who trap 100 stock and 101 with just cai.

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