If it's for sale in a record store then it is a licensed copy, no problem. It is when traders burn copies and send them to others that the band objects to.

Not so sure about that Ron. I went into a cd store in the Village that was selling brand new, in the wrapper, commercial cds for $3-$5. I asked him how he could do that and he said all the other stores were ripping people off. Yeah, that's the ticket...

I've seen the 9/16/71 Warehouse show and othe vintage shows repackaged and sold as new goods. They do a great job making them look authentic. Although this isn't pertaining to ILs, I'm not sure that buying in a record store would guarantee that everything was on the up and up.

quote: Not so sure about that Ron. I went into a cd store in the Village that was selling brand new, in the wrapper, commercial cds for $3-$5. I asked him how he could do that and he said all the other stores were ripping people off. Yeah, that's the ticket...

Complete BS here in these facts. Have worked in the music industry for many years. Retail costs for CDs are considerably more than this, even to Walmart who buy 100,000 copies of top con product.

Either re-packaged goods or boots sold as the real deal.

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quote: Not so sure about that Ron. I went into a cd store in the Village that was selling brand new, in the wrapper, commercial cds for $3-$5. I asked him how he could do that and he said all the other stores were ripping people off. Yeah, that's the ticket...

Complete BS here in these facts. Have worked in the music industry for many years. Retail costs for CDs are considerably more than this, even to Walmart who buy 100,000 copies of top con product.

quote: Not so sure about that Ron. I went into a cd store in the Village that was selling brand new, in the wrapper, commercial cds for $3-$5. I asked him how he could do that and he said all the other stores were ripping people off. Yeah, that's the ticket...

Complete BS here in these facts. Have worked in the music industry for many years. Retail costs for CDs are considerably more than this, even to Walmart who buy 100,000 copies of top con product.

Either re-packaged goods or boots sold as the real deal.

Nobody remembers John Lovitz? "Yeah, that's the ticket . . ." Whoever posted the story of the 3-5$ CD's knew the guy was lying to him. The poster's point was to to say, in response to Ron's comment about official IL's, that just because something appears legitimately packaged doesn't mean it's a legal, licensed product.

Heck, I know places where you can buy factory sealed DVD's - complete with official artwork - of movies that opened in theaters yesterday.

It amazes me that these people are not rounded up and thrown in jail on a regular basis . . . but they're not, so the abuse continues.

I see all this as being a very simple issue. If you like what a band or author, or producer, or director, is doing for you, you should be happy to pay them accordingly. If you take something that has a price tag on it buy you haven't paid, then you've stolen.

Sorry bro, never had 12/30 of 04, though I may have 12/30/03. If you're referring to NYE (12/31) of 04, well, I had that, but not any longer. Somebody else should be able to hook you up. Check out the "Trades" section of the forum.

quote:I think one of the best ways to help maximize the legitimate circulation of IL's is to release the IL's of a particular leg of the tour about a month after it's completion instead of in one glut at the end. If I could have bought 10 shows at a time I would have collected them all, but one bump for all of them was a bit stout for my wallet. Perhaps then you could have a second issue in November/December to give folks a chance to get what they missed. A little more involved, but I suspect it might be more profitable for the band

I like this idea. Personally I passed on buying any because I can only afford one at a time and can't decide exactly which one to buy. If I knew for certain that I could get them as I had the money come in I would probably buy at least 4 or 5. I know I want the Fox Run and the Raleigh show. However if I knew they would be available on demand I would probably also pick up the "Pick Of The Litter" set as individual albums. That would add up to a lot more money for the band in the long run.

MikeNice
Pick one anyway - you can't go wrong with the IL's......they're all great...try any of the Fox run shows from Sept 04.......you'll be a winner all the way.... Jones Beach Aug/04 and Michigan 8/29/04 are 1st class too......give it a spin......you CAN'T go wrong!!
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PeachNuTT (aka EllKaBong!)

Hi Rowland
I assuming this got bumped again in response to my post to get rid of the Fox Instant Live set. Really I feel like this was a big waste of 100 Canadian dollars.

It is not my intention to trade copies. I have no use for the originals and the nice folks at Kid Glove don't seem to want to help me exchange them. I rather put them to some use, becasue I'll never listen to them again.

If you need to remove the line in my post about trading them please do so.

quote:Hi Rowland
I assuming this got bumped again in response to my post to get rid of the Fox Instant Live set. Really I feel like this was a big waste of 100 Canadian dollars.

It is not my intention to trade copies. I have no use for the originals and the nice folks at Kid Glove don't seem to want to help me exchange them. I rather put them to some use, becasue I'll never listen to them again.

If you need to remove the line in my post about trading them please do so.

Thanks
Sean

They don't take returns because people like you copy a set for yourself and send the original copies back... which is illegal.

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