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F10 / F11 (2011 - 2016) The sixth generation of the BMW 5 Series Sedan (F10) was produced from 2011 - 2016 with LCI updates arriving in 2014. In the US BMW offered a hatchback 5 Series Gran Truismo (F07) and the rest of the world also go a Station Wagon/Touring version F11.

I have no dog in this fight, but I have long since learned to distrust "official" weights by a significant margin. The face that the two cars were tested to the same spec (passengers, fluids, etc.) on the same set of scales on the same day means much more to me.

Maybe I'm missing something; do the 3 cars have the same options? Pls point out the relevant portion/page/link.

I see both gross weight and kerb weights and they are different. What's up with that?

Regards,

Generally, kerb weight is when empty and gross is with passengers etc

But BMW's unladen weight can be "The figure quoted includes a 90 per cent tank filling, 68 kg for the driver and 7 kg for luggage.
Unladen weight applies to vehicles with standard equipment. Optional equipment may
increase this figure."

I assume you disregarded the official US BMW and Audi websites for your own motives; and you know for a fact that the 3 cars tested had the same options incl seats

I'm not shocked you call BS on the weights. It's hilarious that you believe everything that BMW says to you.

For example, BMW quotes 240hp for the F30 N20, but it's making 240hp at the wheels. Not at the crank that most other makers quote. Do you also believe quoted 0-60 times by BMW. Again, real world numbers are usually much different.

I'm not shocked you call BS on the weights. It's hilarious that you believe everything that BMW says to you.

For example, BMW quotes 240hp for the F30 N20, but it's making 240hp at the wheels. Not at the crank that most other makers quote. Do you also believe quoted 0-60 times by BMW. Again, real world numbers are usually much different.

By same spec I did not mean options. I meant with or without fluids, gas, etc.

I you look at the full test, all three cars are pretty decently optioned. The only big difference in spec you will get are seats and tires, and neither are significantly different on these cars

I may still be missing something.

For the A8: "It is also the least costly, starting at $84,875 and tested at $88,375, with two options aboard that would appeal only ***8201;to owners who eschew chauffeurs: the $2300 Audi Drive Select Plus package, which includes dynamic variable-ratio steering and a torque-vectoring rear differential, plus $1200 worth of 20-inch wheels with summer tires."

For the 7: "Our blue example, with its twin-turbo, 4.4-liter V-8 blowing out 400 horsepower, carried more than $10,000 in options, including $3750 in sport-driving addenda such as dynamic anti-roll bars and variable four-wheel steering. You get Oyster Nappa leather and matte-finish wood everywhere, plus a navigation system, for the base price but pay $1800 for the stereo upgrade with iPod and USB adapters and $1300 each for a head-up display and a set of 19-inch wheels. " The tires for the 7 are run flats