obama, bytheway,barackobamascoredmidleftinbothpolls.>> interesting. i mean maybe not for people today because he obviously is very popular certainly with democrats, but for historians to choose a living president. >> they chose him as number ten of the 20. they put him at the bottom of the list just below ronald reagan. but it is interesting. the popular people put him in the middle of achievements. it was one of the top ten in the country, so they excluded george w. bush. to my regret they excluded george herbert walker bush who i personally thing they deserved more credit than they got. the popular vote excluded woodrow wilson. woodrow wilson charted american history for the next years. >> what do you make of the breakdown if you look at the list that's used democratic. out of ten, only three are republicans. >> yeah. i mean the people, four were republicans, but wi biand large you have to look at who the republicans are. you've about got warren harding who was always drunk and making love in a closet. corrupt. you've got herbert hoover, decent made who made a s

and the middle east? >> i thought yousawbothmenat their best this morning. one, i thoughtpresidentobama's speechdid just that and i thought it was a good speech. it laid out what we believe in as americans. it began to explain to hopefully arab citizens all over the world we don't control what comes out of america, what the essence of free speech is. i thought he did a great job. governor romney, particularly in his education nation interview with brian williams, showed he in that setting can be enormously effective, he's poised, he was prepared. it's why i think the debates are going to be very interesting. these debates are not going to be a slam dunk for president obama as many people say. governor romney is very effective in that type of venue and setting and he looks presidential, so i think these debates are going to be very, very interesting. you saw both men at their best today. >> the great sasha eisenberg tweeted this was the mitt romney that david brooks has wanted to see all along, yut lining policy, fluent on the topics. talk about the president for a second, steve. there

today.bothpresidentobamaandmitt romney reviewing notes and strategying with their teams ahead of wednesday's face-off in denver. one of three that have the potential to alter the court of history. doug brinkley is joining me now, doug, good to see you thank you for joining us. is this a do no harm debate in or does each candidate have something to prove on wednesday? >> barack obama he and hiss choice would haven't the debate. after all today's polls are up nine points in ohio. it looks like these debates are just the rapids the president has to go through. if he didn't have them, it would be fair sailing. so for mitt romney, these debates are essential. he's going to have to show that he's presidential. so far when he went to the olympic and maybe gaffed and he stumbled with that 44%. they're not sure they can live with the guy for four years so mitt romney has to really be the one that comes out the winner. he's got to score. >> there was a time between the famous kennedy-nixon tapes that there were no televised debates. why are they considered so vital now? >> well, the ken

halloween is sellingbothobamaandromney masks, and they report the number of peoplebuyingobamamasksthis cycle is even greater than in 2008. >> jennifer: who knows. it may even be a bigger turnout. the first presidential debate is wednesday, and it is prompting both campaigns to say very nice things to each other. and we'll tell you about the layest republican dirty tricks in florida. it's friday night in "the war room." we're just getting (vo) what is said here could decide the election. current tv presents coverage of the presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> you're going to hear that used as a major talking point. (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >>now that's politically direct. >>> since you have debated mitt romney, what advice would you give to barack obama? >> call bill clinton every morning. [ laughter ] >> jennifer: that's newt gingrich offering president obama some unsolicited advice. meanwhile the obama and romney campaigns are managing expectations. even the m

.obama's skinagain and again and again. it looked like to some degree there in southcarolinabothhillaryclinton and bill clinton were sort of -- were sort of going after him at the same time, trying to fluster him when he got to this debate. he never went there. and i think that's telling for this debate upcoming. all these attempts to try to fluster him, you know, do you remember suzanne, the talk about ronald reagan in that debate? >> right. >> do you recall that? >> that's right. >> all this talk about ronald reagan and whether obama had sort of invoked the name of ronald reagan because so many democrats didn't like him or whatever. well senator obama then took the punches, explained what he said about reagan and took it back to her, keeping the anger under control, finding balance and pushing back hard just not too hard. >> it was interesting too as well you could ask the most dry mundane question, dealing with the economy. they would go back to the talking points in the attacks. it was clear they were trying to score points. fireworks. a "game change"er if you will. i want

to protect you, and you is the player.presidentobamatweetednflfansonbothsidesof the aisle hope the refs lock out ends soon. >> give me a break. it is time to get the real refs. and do you know what it remamin me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it right it is time to get out. >> the nfl does not want to support a pension and it wants to increase competition among the referees to perform better. these are classic labor issues in 2012. >> let's get to tonight's very special guest here now is hall-of-fame quarterback fran tarkenton. he took his team to the 73, 74 and 76 super bowls but you also played for the new york giants. i'm a fan. wonderful to see you fran, we know what the problem is, in your judgement, what is the solution? >> it is a terrible problem. they made a terrible mistake but they blew two pass interference calls against green bay that never should have happened. they should have changed the play. we play 16 games in a year. you play 162 baseball games. a loss is a devastating thing. the nfl messed up in betting and getting the right referees.

% of americans who paid no income tax. >> romney:presidentobamaandibothcareabout middle class citizens. >> cenk: there is a lot more. stay right here, i'm about to show you why it is already over. and then there are wonderfully authored moments like this. paul ryan isn't that som

, national correspondent. nice work. thanks for that report. >>> movingon.bothpresidentobamaandmitt romney are expected to speak with prime minister benjamin netanyahu, following the leader's impassioned plea for action against iran. netanyahu tried to make as clear as possible why he believes iran's nuclear program must be stopped sooner rather than later. >> a red line should be drawn right here. before, before iran completes the second stage of nuclear enrichment necessary to make a bomb. >> with me now, msnbc special correspondent, tom brokaw. you have seen a lot of u.n. speeches. >> jon stewart teed it up saying it looks like a wiley coyote cartoon. this is a serious issue. seems the way the prime minister presented it before the united nations. >> had an american president did something like this, what would the reaction be? i am sort of shell shocked. >> take the two candidates, think about what they would have said if president obama had done something like that. >> george w. bush. >> from the right or george w. bush, or if mitt romney made a speech and held up that kind of

john mccain andbarackobama, whichwas this date four years ago, the focus was the war. infact,bothwars.>> do you, senator mccain, much has been said about the lessons of vietnam. what do you see as the lessons of iraq? >> i think the lessons of iraq are very clear that you cannot have a failed strategy. thanks to this great general david pa trm pa tray yous, they succeeding and winning in iraq. >> whether we should have gone into the war in the first place. six years ago i stood up and opposed this war. we hadn't finished the job in afghanistan. we hadn't caught bin laden. we hadn't put al qaeda to rest. and as a consequence, i thought that it was going to be a distraction. now, senator mccain and president bush had a very different judgment. >> so that was this date, 40 days out from the election in '08 and 40 days out from the election in '04. in '04 the campaign was consumed with the debate over at least one of our wars. 40 days out from the election in '08, in the midst of the financial meltdown the campaign was consumed with both of the wars. now it's 2012 and we're 40 days

they can't -- it's -- the margs inhese stasre s t theyneedbothobamatogo down as they're going up. >> all right, mike. and apparently you've been deputized by "sports illustrated." you're here to reveal the new cover of "sports illustrated." >> what? >> there's a lot of goo news, good buzz inside the beltway. it's on the cover of "sports illustrated" this week. they're calling washington/baltimore america's unlikely new sports capital. seth davis, lanny son is writing in "sports illustrated" abo the beltway as the new spos surpower. we have the washington nationals tied with the reds for the best team in baseball. we have great hope for the redskins with this quarterback, rg3 which "spos illustrated" i hope he's better than that. >> yeah. it's definitely a moment. i can tell you as a yankee fan, the orioles are frightening at this point. >> aren't they something? >>ike allen, thanks so much. >> have a good week. >> a point of personal privile here. >> please. >> i want to hear about one story today and one story only. and i want to know what's going on in kansas. mika, do we have

. that ad moves people and has an impact. i haveseenbothobamaandromney suddenly tweak or change -- suddenly tweak or change or drop language called out by fact checkers. all to the, there was a check -- decision there that it does not mean that much to us if we fix this. we will get less grief if we treat it a bit or change it on the martin -- margins, but the key things that move voters, such as, he apologizes for america or obama with that ridiculous thing about savings from the wars, and in the same breath he criticizes george w. bush for running wars on a credit card. he will say those on this one sentence after another without any sense he is contradicting himself. there is pulling there that says that is an effective line and moves voters. it does not matter what the actual facts are. that is when -- >> in that statement, he also said, fact checkers come to this with their own sense of thoughts and ideas and backgrounds. he is trying to redefine what a fact is. he is saying, there are no objective facts. it is to somebody else's opinion about what we are saying. it is kind

haveagreement.bothofus think it was wrong forpresidentobamatosnubbed the prime minister of israel. >> i do not know what his schedule is. you characterized -- rhetoric about snubbing, been weak, i do not know what the situation was for the president's office, his schedule, what the israeli prime minister's schedule was. if it is possible, you should always meet with foreign heads of government you so what scheduling conference the think would be sufficient? he declined requests from the prime minister to meet when the prime minister was in new york. my understanding is that during that same week he went on david letterman and "the view." >> at the same time? you are using that as an excuse? >> we do not even know. you do not even know. the slander our president and not the -- even know his schedule. >> i am describing his conduct. >> i do not know david letterman's personal schedule or the president's, but we have come to the bottom of a half- hour. much more in the next 30 minutes. >> thank you. a spirited, sometimes fiery debate between our two than senate candidates.

think he's very good. ithinkbothofthem are playing the game.presidentobamawassaying something the other day, i'm not really a good debater. gee -- >> they're both very, very smart guys. >> if you talk about the top 1%, intellect, these guys are in the top 1%. there's nothing to choose between them on intellect. there's a lot to choose between them on policy. i hope they get into a good discussion of policy because from my point of view i think romney would get the better of that but i'm not sure. we'll see. >> we looked at past debates. some folks seem to get into trouble when they start debating over the debate rules themselves. i want to play a quick montage of stuff. >> i have to let senator obama respond. go ahead and respond. >> wait -- >> you just spoke for two minutes. >> you said two things. >> you can dispute that but let me finish. you went on for two minutes. let me finish. >> i'm speaking. i'm speaking. i'm speaking. i'm speaking. you get 30 seconds. this is the way the rules work here, is that i get 60 seconds and then you get 30 seconds to respond, right? anderso

and the battle for the buckeye state.presidentobama, mittromneybothcampaigningthere today. look at the poll from cbs and the "new york times." >> showing in ohio now the president has a 10-point lead over mitt romney among likely voters. 53% to 45%. that number's going to jump off the screen for a lot of people in this country. ohio, 18 electoral votes, seventh highest in the nation and again no republican has ever won the white house without winning that number. >> how many times have we said that? >> say it every time. >> jim acosta has that stitched into his t-shirts. hi, jim. traveling with mitt romney from ohio. >> reporter: that's how that. good morning. i think mitt romney has also heard that once or twice. thanks to john berman for bringing that up again. rolling up on a mitt romney event getting started in a few moments in westerville, ohio, outside of columbus. mitt romney goes then up to the northern part of the state, hit the cleveland area and toledo later on this evening. we tried to talk to mitt romney about the struggles he's having here in ohio before the poll came out this

you played with mitt romney in colorado,presidentobamaonsunday night in lasvegas,bothbasicallywhat they both said is the media wants this to be a back and forth brawl, we're going to be serious and focus on the issues because they understand that when it comes to undecided voters, tend to be people, not always, politically independent. those kind of people don't like the nastiness, the back and forth. partisans love that. but independents don't like it. the messaging is i'm a serious person, these are serious times, and we need someone who has the ability, capacity, demonstrated record to lead. so i actually think both of them will be kind of the serious and sober politician as opposed to you showed the clip of scott brown and elizabeth warren, i don't think that's what's going to happen tomorrow night. >> mark, we've seen a lot of evidence so far and see more when we go through the numbers tonight in the nbc news "wall street journal" poll the final numbers when they come out how important do you think the 47% comment is? because we've seen a real shift with mitt romney tryin

for wednesday in denver. ohio republican senator rob portman playing the role ofpresidentobama. mittromney attended church with his family earlier today. meanwhile, the president will be hold agriculturally this evening in las vegas, nevada, with three days until the first debate between president obama and mitt romney, both campaigns are kicking the expectations game into high gear. here's david plouffe on "meet the press" this morning. >> we have expected all along that governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any candidate in history and he's shown himself to be a good debater through the years. >> joining me now, ann murray, a romney campaign surrogate, former communications director for governor tim pawlenty's presidential campaign. anne marie, good afternoon to you. so now governor romney at his campaign headquarters today for some debate prep. we understand that that debate prep has turned into a full-scale dress rehearsal this afternoon. tomorrow he's on the campaign trail. is he ready for wednesday night? >> i think, i think so. i think it's going to be a gr

obama, nota good president, but a terrific campaigner? >> well,it'sboth. ihappen to think least a better president, but that doesn't matter, most of the american people don't think he is. why did he not meet with these heads of state, he went on "the view"? very simple, he's trying to get married women. he does very well among single women but needs to get the margin on married women down. so this is all about now demographics. he's campaigning, and he doesn't care about -- as far as he's concerned, he's in campaign mode, and he'll stay there. and he's good at it. gregg: how important is it for romney to do well in wednesday's debates, in all of the debates? >> if he doesn't do well in this first debate, the game is other. gregg: really? >> there's a lot of people starting to write it off now, the momentum of the polls is going towards the president, he's got to turn this thing back around. gregg: what does "well" mean in your mind? >> he has to put some substance on the table that people are going to be talking about. we're sitting here next week, we have to be talking about ho

ofbothpresidentobamaandhis republican challenger, mitt romney, to have a serious second look at sanctions, to try to figure out what additional economic measures are necessary to bring iran's nuclear program to heel. i think that, to a large extempt, is going to determine whether there is military action against iran. quite simply, the sanctions we've applied so far are not having the requisite impact on iran, and more needs to be done. jenna: that was a very interesting editorial in the ine washington post" this week, you said just to review for our viewers, the sanctions are working in some ways, they're not working in others, and can they need to be enforced greater, in your opinion. let's talk about what the american people should expect or trust in this process. you know, why should the american people trust diplomacy when it comes to iran? has there been any evidence that sanctions or diplomacy in the past has worked with this regime and this country? >> well, those are two separate things, and it's clear that diplomacy, at least as attempted by this administration over

and concernforboththemoderatorandpresidentobama, howdo these policies benefit you and why have you availed yourself of every imaginable deduction while you're so -- allegedly so concerned about our deficit. >> today the obama campaign is shifting its strategy on how to deal with romney's proposal to explain which tax deductions he will eliminate. rather than raul romney out, the president will, quote, warn middle class voters of the worst and goad the republican nominee into proving him wrong. it's a lose/lose proposition for romney because any answer will invite further criticism. that's my point, in goading him into saying what deductions he would get rid of, he'll either not say, which will make him look like he's hiding out during the debate with jim lehrer saying tell us, tell us, tell us, he's saying no, no, no or he's beginning to tease and show some leg and say i'm think being something to do with the home mortgage thing or a charitable cap or something less on state and local. in any case they will go through the roof, the voters, the next day and the headline writers. >>

, of course, theelection.bothpresidentobamaandgovernor romney are seasoned debaters and experts say neither are prone to making major gaffes. but if there is one thing that history has taught us when it comes to presidential debates, expect the unexpected. anderson cooper. >> until this week it has been a rough presidential election to be sure. now the candidates can't stop complimenting each other's debating skills. while they try to lower expectations, one of mitt romney's supporters is predicting a big might for the republican. turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ how do you help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. up high! ok. don't you have any usefull apps on that thing? who do you think i am, quicken loans? ♪ at quicken loans, our amaz

's be honest. you heard the same thing frompresidentobamasundaynight at his rally in colorado. i think it also matters who wins or loses. both candidates in their final debate prep. mitt romney had the rally in colorado last night. he's hunkering down with the senator playing obama. you won't see much of mitt romney until wednesday night. same thing for the president. he's in nevada. he'll fly to denver on wednesday. he's got senator john kerry playing mitt romney in the debate preps. the president did have a chance to talk to a few people. he delivered some pizzas to the local obama for reelection campaign office out there. very nice of them. delivering pizza to the workers. he also talked about not getting out much. take a listen. >> basically they're keeping me indoors all the time. it's a drag. they're making me do my homework. >> wow, wow. this is john. he's doing his homework. >> also you have some new polls for us. where are we seeing the candidates now? >> nationally, this race is extremely close. four polls came out yesterday over the last 4 hours. let's talk about ours. cnnor

. >> the make or break momentforbothcampaignsand they're going all out preparing. >>presidentobamaandgovernor mitt romney are preparing for wednesday's debate in denver. >> obama is leaving on sunday for two or three-day debate camp. >> debate camp. >> oh, i remember going to debate camp. i remember like it was hot summer days, no sports. our bitter rivals, camp normal fun. let me remember the song if i can. ♪ >> on the shores of lake rhetoric notes. ♪ we practice logical consistency. we will beat your attacks using well-structured argument and reason facts. you sometimes false ♪ ♪ and logical not in the face not in the face ♪ [ bleep ] actually written into the song. ♪ >> in case you missed it there we have it for you. "early start" continues right now. >>> countdown to the face-off. mitt romney and president obama get ready for the make it or break it debate. but romney says it is not about the win. >>> and what could he know? the president of iran's personal cameraman seeking asylum in the u.s.? we're talking to the first white house videographer about it. >>> and

? >>guest: it couldcutbothways.they could be spurred into action, they do not likepresidentobama. theycould be spurred to action in the campaign to work harder. >>imus: whose backers are more rabid, more jazzed? that is kind of, you know, ethereal. >>guest: a lot of republicans think, wait, this is the time after "hope and change" where a lot of liberals are disappointed in the president. two years after the tea party spurred a big takeover of congress, as well. i think, personally, that the republicans are more injuriesed than -- energized than the democrats in a time the economy did not turn around and president obama did not do things the supporters hoped for. >>neil: always good to talk to you. a fellow that probably shares the action act view, bob beckel, star of "the view." you agree this boomerangs on the president? >>guest: i don't agree at all. a nice fellow but let me stick to the poll if i could. first all, it could cut both ways. you could say, the romney people say if we are that far behind, why bother? it is better not to have your bases for the be there because of

by winning the debate and theelection.bothpresidentobamaandgovernor romney are seasoned debaters, and expertes say neither are prone to making major gaffes. but if there is one thing that history has taught us when it comes to presidential debates, expect the unexpected. anderson cooper, cnn. >>> once again, the night is tomorrow, the president versus his challenger, face to face, special coverage begins at 7:00 eastern, right here on cnn and on cnn.com. >>> a lot more news developing this hour. watch this. america's top guy in afghanistan says he will not allow troops to be murdered. but do these insider attacks mean a change in strategy is coming? i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. >>> one pilot calls it embarrassing. seats coming loose on a major airline. is this part of a larger problem? >>> plus, carol simpson, the first woman to moderate a presidential debate tells me what to expect torrow night. >>> and police officers accused of raping a woman, but they press charges against her and now the backlash. [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus presents the cold truth. i have a

the states are following them. it wasn't just hispanics. it was socially liberal white womenandobamatoday,56 of 58%. >> i will just say abortion is a height tension issue on both sides of the debate. important to keep in mind. >> things like planned parenthood. planned parenthood which every republican presidential nominee in bourse -- endorsed. i agree. abortion is what it is. you do have this divide, but i think other elements came in in a way that had not previously and all this is allowing obama told his vote among those women. >> you don't actually have soft dollar donations going to the party. you have democrats as republicans did in the 70's him of posting the first wave of regulation have to rely more on upper-middle-class donors. that shapes the issue about the campaign. >> immigration is not an issue that is the core base republican conservative issue. there is a sizable but minority group within the party who cares very deeply about it. why has it become a position of the party now when, in fact a mother is such a huge and growing voter block from it is an important issue. >>

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