The Miami Dolphins presently don’t have a second-round pick in the 2011 draft because the trade they made to acquire Pro Bowl receiver Brandon Marshall last offseason, which cost a second-round pick in 2010 and 2011.

But if General Manager Jeff Ireland has his way the Dolphins intend to regain that second-round pick on draft day because second-round prospects are viewed as the best value picks in the draft.

That means expect the Dolphins to be players in the trade-down category of NFL draft. The Dolphins are annually one of the more active traders during the draft process.

Last year this regime traded the No. 12 pick to San Diego, moving down to No. 28 (where Miami selected defensive end Jared Odrick) to acquire the second-rounder used on linebacker Koa Misi. Veteran linebacker Tim Dobbins was also thrown into the deal.

“You don’t have it right now, but like you’ve seen in the past, there’s ways to get it back,” Ireland said. “We’re always looking to try to do that. As of right now we don’t have one, but who knows, on game day, draft day we’ll have one.”

Without a new collective bargaining agreement in place the Dolphins’ only option would be to trade down from the 15th pick in the first round to acquire more picks because teams will not be allowed to trade players.

I think the Dolphins can move down in the 1st round and still get a quality need player like Mikel Leshoure. This is a deep draft and the more picks we can accumulate the better off the team will be.

Too bad we are not in New England’s shoes and have 6 picks in the first three rounds (talk about scary). Hopefully this year other teams will learn not to trade with the Patriots unless they want them back to Dynasty status for the next 10 years.

Question is if they get a 2nd rounder however it might be do they use it on a player in the draft or do they ship it to another team to acquire a player (if CBA is in place)?

I think it would be absolutely necessary to obtain a 2nd round pick. I’m not sold on any of the QB talents in this draft enough to expend a # 15 pick on one. In addition, this team has MORE needs than just at QB. Realistically , this team is bereft of speed all over the offense and the offensive line ( except for Jake Long) is mediocre, AT BEST.
If they could trade down to the Bottom of Round 1 and pick up a round 2 pick, do it! The Dolphins are not going to be in the Super Bowl sweep stakes until 2012 or 2013 anyway.

They gave me Sean Smith, sure, but they don’t get it. O, I know you’re dying about this QB talk, but the bifecta (?) trading down shows they’re not committed to using the one good asset they have (pick #15) to get a QB. Hello mediocrity.

none of the qb’s they are looking at as the top five are worthy of being picked #15. if i were ireland i would do exactly what he said, add speed to the offense. that means speed receivers, quick slot receiver like jernigan (or even kerley), and a quick back like locke. they can still get some quality OL in the draft to help out. i think if miami is going to end up picking any qb in this draft it will be andy dalton. he is a perfect fit for this team when you think about it. the guy is a winner with a great attitude and he has the ability to go into the huddle and get everyone on the same page. best qb prospect coming out this year. will definitely be moving up in the draft after the sr. bowl and the combine.

I think it’s absolutely necessary to grab one of the top QB’s in this draft, any one of Gabbert, Newton, Mallett or Locker. We cannot go into the next season w/ just Chad Henne and Thigpen in there. Bringing in any of the QB’s mentioned among possible trades and free agents is the equivalent of another Henne. See the final four, all QB’s were former 1st rounders, that is not an accident. Unless your last name is Brady in realistic terms need to have a 1st rounder. As I have said in prior posts #3 QB = #3 place in division(at best).

We don’t need to trade up to draft Cam Newton. He’ll be there at #15. And he’s not worth that pick. Not by a longshot. #1, look at his character, with his history of stealing and cheating. #2, he is a one year starter with very little experience. #3, he doesn’t read defenses. He’s never had to. He looks at his first receiver, if he’s not open, he runs with it. That won’t work in the NFL. #4, scouts say he has no ability to anticipate routes. He needs to see a guy open before throwing the ball. He does not anticipate when a route will get a receiver open, and as such, he cannot throw the ball before the receiver makes his break. Again, this will not work in the NFL.

Next year Ross will be looking over Kiper’s mock and he’ll say “hey Ireland how come Kiper doesn’t have us listed in the first round?”
“Well you see Mr. Ross every 5 years you don’t get a first rounder, it’s our bye round, yeah that’s the ticket, our bye round.”

It will be hard to depend on FA because of the CBA and what the cap will be so most will have to come from the draft ( makes trading down even harder). I like the idea but if a top 10 slides to us take him. The value will be hard to pass up. QB and C seems weak at this point still early but not alot of sure things at either position ( Pouncey the only C and no QB IMO).

RBs and OT/G are strong in this draft, should be a player at these positions in every rd, speed at the RB and WR spot that can help with cover and return STeams will have to addressed in this draft.

I say try and trade henne, he is not a leader, he doesnt see the field and he doesn’t have heart. Thigpen at least wants to win, and the team will follow him. give him a shot and pick up one in the draft. keep pennington on as a qb coach, he’s one of the best minds in the game.

Son, if we stand pat and take a QB like Newton at #15 (hypothetical), I’ll root for the guy. But will he be the BPA? That’s all I’m trying to say.

Will he be a QB who can lead us to the playoffs with hopefully a good defense that we’re becoming, along with improved STs in the next few years?

If not, than we need to stop with the Ross mantra about exciting offense. Because that’s not always what will win games or be the right choice. But that monkey wrench is in the air. It’s kind of disturbing. Ross does not follow football like we do.

I hope that you are right. I hope that Sparano and Ireland ignore everything that Ross has said and do their own thing, because it means that they will be gone next year.

Being a head coach in the NFL is a very exclusive, elite job, in a country of more than 300 million people, there are only 32 of these jobs. If Sparano wnats to keep his job, he will do his best to give the boss what he wants. Ross can simply remove Sparano and Ireland, you can post on a website, I know who I would try to please.

If the Dolphins take a OL or a defensive player with the number 15 pick and Cam Newton is still sitting there, they will probably be gone by mid year. Staying pat with this team or taking a QB of the future and trying to depend on Henne, when the owner has said specifically that he wants to see better play from the QB position, is a huge mistake. Newton may be raw but you can sell a Heisman Trophy winner to the fanbase. You can sell 6′5″ 250lbs QBs to the fanbase especially when he is fast and strong, with a strong arm.

We need playmakers and that is what Newton is. He will help with the running game because the DEs and Outside LBs have to stay home because Newton can come out the backside. He can help with the pass game because he can make all of the throws, but his mobility holds the MLB.

As big as Big Ben. More mobile than Aaron Rodgers and a serious playmaker, yep lets pass on him, Dolt

i really dont know what is more depressing. listening to the presidents state of the union, i dont know what is more depressing, the state of the dolphins or the state of the union. both are left in babbling fools hands. now if obama can just give us a fist pump or two, things will just fit right in

Tim, I think saying you’re going to do what ever you can to get a 2nd round pick back is just as irresponsible as taking a need pick instead of BPA. If a guy you really want falls to your draft slot, and he’s a BPA available at a position of need, it’s foolish to trade back at that point just to get another pick, without knowing what players will be available at those picks. Your thoughts?

Ffr, roster-wise we’re right there with most teams. We’re a few playmakers away from being at the top. Sorry, it’s true. The two teams in the SB have had injuries and played through it because of depth and QB. But QB is the key. Yes I agree Henne is not Ben or Rodgers. That does not mean the entire team and organization is in disarray. Please! LOL

If we have good year in 2011, I have a list of people who aren’t allowed to enjoy it. LOL

O Tim
January 25, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Son, if we stand pat and take a QB like Newton at #15 (hypothetical), I’ll root for the guy. But will he be the BPA? That’s all I’m trying to say.

Tim, Isn’t that for our scouts and personnel evaluation guys to determine? Maybe he is, I don’t know the answer. But my point is, if he IS, then how do you pass that up, when not only is it a BPA, but at a very crucial position like QB.

The second Ross kept Ireland and Sporano, the chances of us drafting a qb early were lost. No coach or gm with his job on the line picks a qb in the first. Those guys typically go after talent that can get on the field and contribute week 1.

i think you completely misunderstand me. if you never saw it, i am not one throwing henne under the bus. i dont think our issue is talent. i think our issue is coaching.

I agree we have talent in places, we need to fix the O line, but no matter what, we have a head coach who plays not to lose. that alone is our doom

What is that with your list of people not allowed to enjoy next year if we end up 14-2. You dont think i would be the first to say how wrong i was. I would love nothing else to come on here and eat trays full of crow. Just no salt, got to worry about the BP.

So, if we are not all a bunch of cheerleaders cheering on a regime who has done nothing but fail so far, we cant enjoy it if the team starts winning.

Ffr, I think Sparano is a good coach. We’re always tops in fewest penalties and we compete most of the time. I think it’s purely talent-based. A few more big plays and a few less bad plays can be the difference between 7-9 and 11-5.

what do you mean, our wondrous leader just said how we need to educate our children and teach them celebrating an education is better then celebrating the super bowl winner. i mean, you never thought of that, i never thought of that, no one on this blog ever thought education was more important then winning the super bowl. and to prove my point, he got a standing ovation from all the idiots in the audience for saying how much more important education is then winning a super bowl.

and you think we need a better qb as our president. i bet next he will say drugs our bad for our youth

Tim, You know that to make any rookie successful he needs help. Good running game and a strong Defense. I predicate my desire for getting Newton with first committing to running the ball, that means fortifying the O-line, and then putting in a gameplan that is effective.
I think Cam could play a similar pro game to what Ben does. It isn’t flashy or complex and when things breakdown Ben makes something happen. But he’s capable of getting out of the pocket and making plays. When Ben came in they knew they were in trouble when he threw it 25 times. He’s taken over much more as he’s progressed.

Tim, I have to side with you. It seems to me that the thrashing we gave the Patriots in ‘08 at the hands of the wildcat intro is evidence of that. They didn’t pull the hammer back when the players were making the scheme work. But it was to make up for the lack of playmakers. When teams started figuring it out, Henning had to resort to other plays and we just didn’t have the playmakers to get it done. If you’re Tony, you order Henning not to do something stupid.

The last 3 years we have beaten or have come close to beating the top teams that went deep into the playoffs. There’s no doubt in my mind that if we add a couple of fast receivers and a running back, and a couple of offensive linemen, it would do wonders.

NJ PHIN FAN says:
January 25, 2011 at 9:45 pm
I can’t watch this f’n used car saleman nobama anymore ! enough with his BS !!
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Dude, I’ve got a LOT of $#!t to say about what he’s lying about, and I’m still watching this SOTU “show”. I will refrain from stating as much on these football blogs.

Just KNOW that you and I are on the EXACT same page regarding as much, my Brother

Ever think they will just sit pat at 15, if the QB or other player they like is there then they take him? If the QB they wanted Gabbert, Locker, Mallett etc is gone then they will try to to trade back. We don’t know that they will use the 15th pick to do that. Good chance they get back a little more than just a late 1st and 2nd if they move back far. Possibly a 5th or 4th as well. Everything is hypothetical unless we know each teams draft board and Miami is on the clock. Don’t panic so much.

been saying all along that they will be looking first and foremost to increase team speed. almost every mock has them taking ingram at #15 but all the mock’s are leaving everyone at their original spot, too. it never works out that way and this year will be no exception. sooner or later someone starts to make a move and then others follow. miami isn’t taking ingram at #15 and ireland just confirmed two things that i’ve said from day one: they are looking to increase team speed and they are looking to get a 2nd rd pick. i believe that, even if they can acquire a 2nd thru a trade, they will still trade down out of the #15 and try to pick up a second 2nd rd pick because their is a tremendous amount of “speed” in the first two rds and they can’t afford to miss out. now, they may not be able to get a 2nd for anyone they are trying to unload so they may end up settling for a 2nd pick in the 3rd rd. and will still trade down to get a 2nd rd pick. crowder is definitely someone they will be looking to unload during the offseason and before the draft, if they can.

The thing with picking at 15 is every team who needs a Qb besides Seattle who selects at i think 25 picks before we do. That means taht if one or even two QBs of the four are left we can potentially trade down anywhere before 25 and still acquire them. of course another team could trade back up but still in theory it is sound. However bottom line is if at 15 were on teh clock and the guy we want is there we pull the trigger. Of course we want a second round pick… I mean we want ten of them… doesnt make it more likely we got one..

Trade down from R1P15 to later in the 1st, whereby we can get either Mike Pouncey or Stefen Wisniewski… and in recouping our lost lost 2nd rounder by trading down, go get Kyle Rudolph there in the 2nd.

Amen my brother…..I love Penny and some guys get theirs careers cut short due to injury and he needs to accept that. If more players on this team had even half the heart and drive as Chad P we would be okay. I wish him well too — would rather have him as OC then Daboll.

It would be sick to trade back in 1st round and get a 2nd rounder, then draft Mikel Leshoure(RB illinois) and in the 2nd draft Ryan Williams(RB virginia tech). establish an amazing young and athletic backfield for years to come! Offseason aquire gag-stop for this season(young,mcnabb,orton) hopefully vince. see how he does then determine whether to go qb in first round the next year. but also this offseason aquire an amazing line! and i mean spend a boatload on PROVEN prowbowl lineman(not grove,berger,incognito etc.) and make sure to get Jeremy Kerley (WR tcu) he has blazing speed and great punt and kick return ability. he also had 10 tds last season so he is a good deep threat. so this is my dream draft,….
1st mikel leshore
2nd ryan williams
3rd pat deviln,andy dalton (or other qb)
4th kristofer o’dowd(or other lineman)
5th nate irving (guys an animal)
6th jeremy kerley (take him in 5th or 4th if stock continues to rise. WE NEED THIS GUY, TRUST ME)
7th virgil green (4.6 speed at tight end!)

don’t have the speed they are looking for. torrey smith in the first, jernigan in the 2nd and locke in the 5th. like the dalton pick. he probably will end up going in the 3rd but if locker is a 1st rd qb dalton should be projected as at least a 2nd. kerley is good but jernigan is a much better pick. also keep an eye out for randall cobb. if the fins get jernigan, cobb or kerley, sorry to say it, but bess becomes expendable. so, if they feel they can get any of these guys they may look to put bess on the trading block. also look for crowder to be on his way out. they can also be looking to get d. j. williams at te. he creates some mismatches and the guy can block. i’ve seen him take some guys out. ryan williams is a great pick. wish there was a way for them to get two 2nd rd picks so they can try for both ryan williams and jerrell jernigan. another guy i like a lot is bilal powell. only had one good year but he didn’t get much of a chance before this past year. kendall hunter would also be a nice mid round pick at rb. low to the ground and powerful. not a big fan of devine. only 5′ 7″ and 160 lbs. didn’t have a really great year this year and only had 8 rushes for 50 yds in bowl game vs nc state. hunter is the same height but is also goes 199 and hits hard when he runs the ball. i’ve seen defenders pick up devine like he was a little high school kid. jmo.

I’m not Gigi, obviously, but I know one answer we can both agree on, is that we’d all like to see a heck of a lot more of it this year in his QB competition that could either keep him elevated to starter status, or fall down to just another backup.

Our GM (not Ireland) has spent and spent like a drunken sailor (think the NY stej in this uncapped year). Now he suddenly wants to act to us like Don Shula (Reagan), in saying that we need to be fiscally responsible?

But he who is on the side of the stej (actually, the Chi-Town Bears) is trying to say that everything is going to be alright. REALLY? Didn’t the stej VASTLY overspend in a time of an uncapped year?

amen bro M13 ! i loved the part when he said he wpuld veto any bill with earmarks ! do you mean like the stimulas bill that had like 12,000 earmarks !!! he’s getting ripped right now for an unspirited speech !!! it was all bullsh*t !!

Tim: I think he has very little heart from what I have seen. When he makes a mistake he goes to the sideline, does not look at photos like most qb’s do to see where he made a mistake, has Penny in his hear talking him up……he does not have the leadership abilities and yes, heart, to be a top qb – IMO. I am not alone in this opinion.

Gigi, do you think because you and some other people share an opinion, it means it’s the answer? I’m just wondering because there are always scenarios when the average folk don’t have privily. Know what I mean?

Tim: I just am giving my opinion which some other people share, does not mean I am right or wrong. No one here knows exactly what is going on with a certain player correct? We observe and come to our own conclusions. Have a great night…..

I didn’t say that as to elicit that kind of response from you. It was not a derogatory statement regarding Henne, rather one that we would like to see him grab the bull by the horns, and take this competition seriously like his NFL life depended on it, and then maybe we would know if he’s a starter or not. You don’t have to explain to me again, I asked earlier, you answered. I get it! We’re good!

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