Goody! I been wanting to work on my Socrates "less is more" type of speaking. (Logical Argument for White Pride: Lesson #1)
So, here you go:

Whitey built everything. Without Whitey (if you are a darky in America)...you wouldn't exist except to shoot blowdarts at orangutans, and gripe about you selling each other to Brits on big boats.
Whitey beat you up. (Mexican)
Without Whitey beating you up, you would be Off-colored Russian (Communist), and wouldn't have anyone for your government officials you are too cowardly to take out, to sell heroin and coke to, because you are too stupid to fix your country and learn birth-control we created. Also, I might note, you sucked anyway, and even the indians here beat you up. That ain't my fault.
Whitey beat you up. (British....who is Whitey too)
Yeah, not once, but twice. Granted, you got the BAR Association, but that is like saying you have two retarded children who are fistfighting over a chunk of construction paper at an office supply store with an 18 year old Goth store manager. Meaning: it don't say too awful much.
Plus, we got the 4th of July, all you got is "Guy Faulks Day". Give me a break.

Whitey beat you up. (Muslims or whatever they are. Desert Darkies.)
We beat you up. Then you beat us up. During the Crusades, we did a lot of that. You guys were good at it. Then came the magic of "technology", and we drilled for oil, took away your parambulation machines called "camels" near your highly advanced "tents", and made you rich (and showed you the magic called "Air Conditioning", and gave you the magic of "gun powder" to thin you morons down a little). Then you got mad at us, AFTER we gave you all that good stuff. THERE'S a surprise (sounds like a Jew right?)
Really...you have zero points to bitch about on this.Oh, and the only reason we ain't killed you out is because Jews haven't told us to, and you got a LOT of friggin' oil.
Whitey beat you up...then forgot about you. (Because we created the internets, and pr0n)
(Anyone else, including Jews)
We only allowed you access to the magic called "technology" because you were too stupid to build it yourself and we felt bad (plus, we built slavery too, and needed slaves, dummy!). Really, get over it. Without us, you would only exist to shoot bows and arrows into your tribesman, whilst we rode around in space-ships with laser weapons, and pinpoint missle-striked you into "non-aggressive tribe" status. Yes...for all intents and purposes.....

You suck. Bad.
And you drag us down (that is the truth).
And without us, you would NOT exist except to scratch your ass with sharpened sticks, and bitch about us knowing so much "magic".
Oops, never forget this: If you are too stupid to build it, don't get mad when someone who was smart enough to strolls by and considers you inferior.

Do better, or shut up. Whitey says so. And the only reason you CAN do better.....is because of....
WHITEY.
Thanks Whitey! You advanced all the nations of Earth to their present level!

1. Even if you were going extinct, would it not be beneficial for the race? it would no longer suffer and it would be "preserved" in the minds of humanity so long as humanity exists. People will use white inventions and remember that white people existed.

Applying your "argument" back towards yourself; If you "went extinct," you would be "preserved" by your post here on SF and your illustrious memory "preserved" by whatever social rejects that claim you as a friend. Just think about it and how beneficial it might be...

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2. For those who are religious, or believe in deism, it is illogical to have a WN in the first place, as relegion or the "morality" of a god, if there is a moral god, dictates that all men be followers, all men display human morality. As WN is based on the scientific fact that Negroes have higher testosterone and lower IQ, it would mean following a religion of self restraint, would be all but impossible for such individuals. Hence either the religion does not apply to them or the whole religion or notion of a moral god is bunk.

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Thus there is no such thing as a religious WN. A WN will have to be without any form or religion or faith in any sort of god. For what kind of god would you pray to, if that god did not have the courtesy to give all individuals the ability to sustain themselves and live a peaceful life.

I'll assume that you know how to spell 'religion.' However, you really need to avail yourself of some philosophical texts in order to understand how to discuss this subject intelligently. I'll help you get started: Read some Plato and every other philosopher that crosses your path. Look up the words, "deontological" and "teleological" and try to understand them. Pick up some introductory textbooks on ethics and read said textbooks. Read some introductory books on logic. Then, feel free to come back here and maybe I'll pay attention to your stream-of-consciousness babblings about "relegion."

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3. Proponents of WN suggest all white people mix and over time get rid of the differences between the sub races. For if all Europe is a WN over time, there will be no Irish, no Nords, no germans, and over an even longer period of time, there would be no differences between Anglo, German, Slavs. Just one white mass.

Okay, who are these "proponents of WN" that you have read?

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Hence the very foundational definition of your movement is flawed. Hence everything that rests upon it is flawed.

Q.E.D., right?

Oh, you can read your elementary logic textbook to find out what Q.E.D. means, by the way.

Hello. I am an anti, I will not disclose my race or species. I wish to keep this to the point.
Here are my arguments.

1. Even if you were going extinct, would it not be beneficial for the race? it would no longer suffer and it would be "preserved" in the minds of humanity so long as humanity exists. People will use white inventions and remember that white people existed.

What?

2. For those who are religious, or believe in deism, it is illogical to have a WN in the first place, as relegion or the "morality" of a god, if there is a moral god, dictates that all men be followers, all men display human morality. As WN is based on the scientific fact that Negroes have higher testosterone and lower IQ, it would mean following a religion of self restraint, would be all but impossible for such individuals. Hence either the religion does not apply to them or the whole religion or notion of a moral god is bunk.

According to Genesis, when God created the Earth, he created it so that animals would mate with their own, people would mate with their own, and plants would only mix seeds when forced to do so by humans. An example of God wanting to have Human Diversity is seen when he destroys the Tower of Babylon/

Thus there is no such thing as a religious WN. A WN will have to be without any form or religion or faith in any sort of god. For what kind of god would you pray to, if that god did not have the courtesy to give all individuals the ability to sustain themselves and live a peaceful life.

I'm a Roman Catholic and White Nationalist. Nothing in my religion says that I cannot protect myself and my kids from foreign invaders.

3. Proponents of WN suggest all white people mix and over time get rid of the differences between the sub races. For if all Europe is a WN over time, there will be no Irish, no Nords, no germans, and over an even longer period of time, there would be no differences between Anglo, German, Slavs. Just one white mass.

This is made up. No sane person on this site wants to see the complete cultural destruction of the people of Europe.

5. There are too many mixed race people, whose parents and relatives would not support such a nation solely white cutting them off from their blood relatives who happen to be mixed. As this number of mixed individuals increases, the prospect of WN goes down.

The amount of people that have mixed blood is very small compared to the number of mainly white/black/asian people.

6. Such a white nation would demand expulsion of the foreign populations, which would severely hamper relations with their country of origin. Saudis, Iranians, and other Arabs would cut off the oil, China, Japan, and other would stop trade, leading to many embargoes, by the UN, as with Rhodesia and SA.

And what would stop us from taking these places by force if we were really that desperate? Do you actually believe China and other countries like Saudi Arabia and India would survive without the markets of the west?

7. WN would incite every ethnicity to demand their own nation. The mixed (white and black ) would demand theirs. The mixed (Hispanic and white) would demand theirs. The mixed (Chinese and white or Chinese and black etc ) would demand theirs. The Serbs and Bosnians would demand theirs, etc. This would continue to the smallest differences.
It would be in the worlds best interest not to let this happen, to prevent such a tidal wave.

America is most likely going to balkanize sooner or later.

8. Much of the land in many white countries is owned by foreign corporations. Unless a change in the law system can be made to force people to sell their land, a WN is impossible. Such a change in the law would require:

a) A communist revolution.
b) A change in the centuries old case law concerning property rights, which would incite previous cases to be looked at again, to come to a judgment
in accordance with the new change. Of course the people affected by the previous case law would want their cases re-evaluated, seeking better justice
by the new change.

Most "foreign" corporations are owned by other Europeans, not Asians. I don't think they would be bothered very much.

9. Black people are a necessary part of society, they keep the jail personnel and police officers employed, indirectly contributing to the economy. The equipment manufacturers for the police departments also remain employed due to black individuals. The hospital staff also remain employed. Thus remove blacks and you completely destroy this economic chain. Resulting in mass unemployment.

You base your logic on......... absurd, non factual assumptions taught to you by the mainstream media, liberals and zionists. I stopped reading when you said we weren't white. Here you made the assumption(which was taught to you) that race is only based on skin color. I suggest you read these forums for a month, read March of the Titans and look in to the difference between races esp the skeletal and cranial evidence. Might as well look at some history and compare it to the non-white to white histories. Only after all that can we talk as equals and you can make logical arguments against WN. Right now you simply don't know anything.....

O yea, and if you used "logic" to get to the conclusion that its good for any race to go extinct, then I am sorry... either you are retarded or making fun of the whole issue.

Logic has nothing to do with it. The formation of self governing nations can be based on anything a group of peoples with a shared commonality wish it to be based on, even something based on the emotion of faith, such as in Islamic countries. If we want to have a separate White nation, based on what we perceive as a common ancestry, we have that right.

Hello. I am an anti, I will not disclose my race or species. I wish to keep this to the point.
Here are my arguments.

Hello Lo. Your intro is odd. It's appearant you are a racialist, and perhaps a much further extreme, speciest.
Cute, never met an Anti who was honest about the "Race" question, kudos.

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1. Even if you were going extinct, would it not be beneficial for the race? it would no longer suffer and it would be "preserved" in the minds of humanity so long as humanity exists. People will use white inventions and remember that white people existed.

If the goes White race goes extinct, how is it benefitual to the White race, let along humanity. People will use White inventions, but they wont progress, or advance themselves.

There are still people in Africa and South America who cant even comprehend the basic Wheel, it's uses or creation.

Thank a White man for such a tool.

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2. For those who are religious, or believe in deism, it is illogical to have a WN in the first place, as relegion or the "morality" of a god, if there is a moral god, dictates that all men be followers, all men display human morality. As WN is based on the scientific fact that Negroes have higher testosterone and lower IQ, it would mean following a religion of self restraint, would be all but impossible for such individuals. Hence either the religion does not apply to them or the whole religion or notion of a moral god is bunk.

You are talking in circles, which appears to be repetitive with you. Morality of God(s) is subject to it's adherance, not the other way around.

Lastly, I cant dycipher which religion you are talking about.

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Thus there is no such thing as a religious WN. A WN will have to be without any form or religion or faith in any sort of god. For what kind of god would you pray to, if that god did not have the courtesy to give all individuals the ability to sustain themselves and live a peaceful life.

Quite an arrogant claim. White Nationalist are godless, now, because no god would support us?

We wish for self determinability and peaceful life, but amongst our own. No Jews, Indians (of any sort) Asians or negros.
Had it not been for your side of the political field, alot of race problems wouldnt even exist in America, thank a jew.

3. Proponents of WN suggest all white people mix and over time get rid of the differences between the sub races. For if all Europe is a WN over time, there will be no Irish, no Nords, no germans, and over an even longer period of time, there would be no differences between Anglo, German, Slavs. Just one white mass.

WRONG!

I support Ethnic Nationalism. Sweden for Swedes, France for French, Germany for Germans so on and so forth, by in large.

Cute. I've always wondered why White people called negros "colored". Black isnt color, but the absent of color, such as is "White".

But in all honesty, your just grasping for the straws on this one, it's not even arguable as flawed to even argue 'color'.

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5. There are too many mixed race people, whose parents and relatives would not support such a nation solely white cutting them off from their blood relatives who happen to be mixed. As this number of mixed individuals increases, the prospect of WN goes down.

Tell it to Don Black, and a number of other White Nationalist websites whose membership have skyrocketted in the last 4 years.

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6. Such a white nation would demand expulsion of the foreign populations, which would severely hamper relations with their country of origin. Saudis, Iranians, and other Arabs would cut off the oil, China, Japan, and other would stop trade, leading to many embargoes, by the UN, as with Rhodesia and SA.

Um, Japan is fairly Nationalist-like, and has managed to maintain a level of purity. Your own arguement is flawed. And I highly doubt relations would be hampered. Companies run the Nation; Economic's have more control, do you honestly think the Saudis would turn down money? Or China for that matter; It's business. Iran would support another Aryan Nation which opposes Isreal, too.

As far as cutting off supplies; Good. I dont want to be dependant on foreign fossil fuels in the first place.

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7. WN would incite every ethnicity to demand their own nation. The mixed (white and black ) would demand theirs. The mixed (Hispanic and white) would demand theirs. The mixed (Chinese and white or Chinese and black etc ) would demand theirs. The Serbs and Bosnians would demand theirs, etc. This would continue to the smallest differences.
It would be in the worlds best interest not to let this happen, to prevent such a tidal wave.

And your point is?

Why do Jews get they're own nations?

Why must negros and every other dark skinned person pour into White Nations? Why cant they build themselves up?

In all honesty, your dark skinned people would revert back to stone age tools, while Whites and other like minded folks fly ships to mars and else where.

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8. Much of the land in many white countries is owned by foreign corporations. Unless a change in the law system can be made to force people to sell their land, a WN is impossible. Such a change in the law would require:

a) A communist revolution.
b) A change in the centuries old case law concerning property rights, which would incite previous cases to be looked at again, to come to a judgment
in accordance with the new change. Of course the people affected by the previous case law would want their cases re-evaluated, seeking better justice
by the new change.

ROTFL

Communist? That's a laugh...

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9. Black people are a necessary part of society, they keep the jail personnel and police officers employed, indirectly contributing to the economy. The equipment manufacturers for the police departments also remain employed due to black individuals. The hospital staff also remain employed. Thus remove blacks and you completely destroy this economic chain. Resulting in mass unemployment.

I wish I saw you suggest this in person. I suppose, If I punched you, blinded you from it, broke your arm and got 3 years you might think alittle differently about saying good thing's about criminals... ie. Black people.

You are a nasty asshole... How many people got to suffer? Will you still speak highly of needing Blacks when one, who is AIDS infested rapes you, your spouse or child?

Blacks in Society, as it is, no matter where they are, are self-destructive to the community integrity, humbleness and overall well-being.
Blacks dont contribute a fraction of what Whites do, in a positive manner.

1. Even if you were going extinct, would it not be beneficial for the race? it would no longer suffer and it would be "preserved" in the minds of humanity so long as humanity exists. People will use white inventions and remember that white people existed.

The object of life is life! Life is for living; the survival instinct is what moves a race or species forward through time!

And extinction further negates evolution. To be Aryan is to strive for ever greater progress and advancement. Death can only be accepted in individuals battling for the survival of the race; it must never be accepted for the race as a whole!

Gods! To exist only in memory... the only memory we care to live on in, is the memory of our POSTERITY! Our CHILDREN! Our DESCENDANTS! Not in the memory of the enemy aliens which slay us or the parasites which infest our lands and use our inventions... those are welcome to depart from us and forget us!

If you truly believe it is somehow 'beneficial' for us to go extinct... if I were to come across you stricken with dehydration in a desert land, Logical observer., I'd offer you a picture of water!

2. For those who are religious, or believe in deism, it is illogical to have a WN in the first place, as relegion or the "morality" of a god, if there is a moral god, dictates that all men be followers, all men display human morality. As WN is based on the scientific fact that Negroes have higher testosterone and lower IQ, it would mean following a religion of self restraint, would be all but impossible for such individuals. Hence either the religion does not apply to them or the whole religion or notion of a moral god is bunk.

Thus there is no such thing as a religious WN. A WN will have to be without any form or religion or faith in any sort of god. For what kind of god would you pray to, if that god did not have the courtesy to give all individuals the ability to sustain themselves and live a peaceful life.

I walk with the Gods of my blood. We offer no discourtesy to those of other races who refrain from doing injury to us; but if they invade our lands, rob our resources, rape our women, or work us other ill, we may war against them without mercy - and there is no immorality in doing so.

3. Proponents of WN suggest all white people mix and over time get rid of the differences between the sub races. For if all Europe is a WN over time, there will be no Irish, no Nords, no germans, and over an even longer period of time, there would be no differences between Anglo, German, Slavs. Just one white mass.

Not all proponents of White Nationalism suggest that. Plenty stick to their own nationality for marriage, while fighting side by side with the other nationalities as comrades.