THREATS by the University of Bolton to dock a day’s pay for two-hour strike action did not stop academics from again walking out in an on-going dispute over pay.

About 12 lecturers, supported by some students, fighting for “fair pay” took part in the second two hour strike action yesterday — despite having already having lost a day’s wage last week for stopping work for just a couple of hours.

University of Bolton is just one of a handful of universities to have withheld a day’s pay from lecturers taking part in the national action called by the University College Union (UCU).

Damien Markey, secretary of the local branch of the UCU, said: “We are still being told by management that they are withholding a day’s pay for the two hour strike which means we are part of the 20 per cent of UCU members who are having their pay withheld.

“It is the belief of this branch that this escalation on the part of the management is part of their hardline approach and will unfortunately lead to further disruption for students. The UCU is legally challenging this withholding of pay.

“Lecturers have received only a one per cent pay rise for the last four years.

“This is the biggest picket we’ve had yet and we’ve been pleased with the support.” Civil engineering student Hudhaifah Patel said: “We definitely support them, these guys deserve better pay.”

The UCU says the one per cent pay offer means their members have faced a 13 per cent pay cut in real terms since October 2008. Mr Markey called on employers to “engage in meaningful talks on pay, equality and disability issues”.

A University of Bolton spokesman said: “The university, as recommended by Universities and Colleges Employers Association, is intending to implement the one per cent nationally set pay award for 2013.

“The university is mindful of an employee’s right to protest. The university will not accept any partial performance of duties in a working day, which a two hour strike is, as it is detrimental to its students.”

He added: “The university, made all academic staff aware that in the event they participate in the strike it will withhold pay for the entire day.”

“The university has sought to mitigate any inconvenience that may be caused to students as a result of this one day strike action and any adverse impact this may have on their experience.”

They get far more money than primary/secondary teachers for far less work, hassle and training. Bolton Uni is a joke one of the worst in the country def in the bottom 10 yet they want a pay rise. How about you raise standards first.

They get far more money than primary/secondary teachers for far less work, hassle and training. Bolton Uni is a joke one of the worst in the country def in the bottom 10 yet they want a pay rise. How about you raise standards first.Bolton Lad 85

What a pathetic bunch of public sector leeches we see before us. This educational establishment is almost, but not quite, the worst performing such institution in the country across a wide variety of performance measures. So their mantra seems to me is, " I work for a failing institution, I deliver poor value to my students, I don't exactly work very hard but heh-ho I'm in the public sector so give me more money ".

What a pathetic bunch of public sector leeches we see before us. This educational establishment is almost, but not quite, the worst performing such institution in the country across a wide variety of performance measures. So their mantra seems to me is, " I work for a failing institution, I deliver poor value to my students, I don't exactly work very hard but heh-ho I'm in the public sector so give me more money ".boltonchap

If I don't work, I don't get paid, why should my tax pay them for not working?

Stop moaning before they start importing lecturers from East Europe who will work for half the wage your currently getting.

If I don't work, I don't get paid, why should my tax pay them for not working?
Stop moaning before they start importing lecturers from East Europe who will work for half the wage your currently getting.Jim271

cliff4treasurer wrote:
How much an hour are they on now for contributing to the poor educational standards at this palace of education?
Maybe they get paid by results like most people in private industry?

Most people?

All I have ever done is work in the private industry and everywhere that I have worked there has never been any performance related pay!

[quote][p][bold]cliff4treasurer[/bold] wrote:
How much an hour are they on now for contributing to the poor educational standards at this palace of education?
Maybe they get paid by results like most people in private industry?[/p][/quote]Most people?
All I have ever done is work in the private industry and everywhere that I have worked there has never been any performance related pay!The Righteous One

Jim271 wrote:
If I don't work, I don't get paid, why should my tax pay them for not working?

Stop moaning before they start importing lecturers from East Europe who will work for half the wage your currently getting.

Hang on a minute.
You're missing the point of the story.

"If I don't work, I don't get paid". Yes, that's what anyone who goes on strike expects. You don't work; you don't get paid. Fair enough.

You go on strike for 2 HOURS. You should be deducted 2 HOURS' pay.
Simples.

Maybe the managers and spokesman should do a maths course, or a common sense course, if they run one.

[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote:
If I don't work, I don't get paid, why should my tax pay them for not working?
Stop moaning before they start importing lecturers from East Europe who will work for half the wage your currently getting.[/p][/quote]Hang on a minute.
You're missing the point of the story.
"If I don't work, I don't get paid". Yes, that's what anyone who goes on strike expects. You don't work; you don't get paid. Fair enough.
You go on strike for 2 HOURS. You should be deducted 2 HOURS' pay.
Simples.
Maybe the managers and spokesman should do a maths course, or a common sense course, if they run one.StGibbs

Jim271 wrote:
If I don't work, I don't get paid, why should my tax pay them for not working?

Stop moaning before they start importing lecturers from East Europe who will work for half the wage your currently getting.

Hang on a minute.
You're missing the point of the story.

&quot;If I don't work, I don't get paid". Yes, that's what anyone who goes on strike expects. You don't work; you don't get paid. Fair enough.

You go on strike for 2 HOURS. You should be deducted 2 HOURS' pay.
Simples.

Maybe the managers and spokesman should do a maths course, or a common sense course, if they run one.

if you go on strike they get relief staff in .... they get paid for the day even if they only do 2 hours and that money has to come from somewhere ..... should the tax payer foot the bill ? .... no you should .... your days wage has paid for the relief staff .... simple

[quote][p][bold]StGibbs[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote:
If I don't work, I don't get paid, why should my tax pay them for not working?
Stop moaning before they start importing lecturers from East Europe who will work for half the wage your currently getting.[/p][/quote]Hang on a minute.
You're missing the point of the story.
"If I don't work, I don't get paid". Yes, that's what anyone who goes on strike expects. You don't work; you don't get paid. Fair enough.
You go on strike for 2 HOURS. You should be deducted 2 HOURS' pay.
Simples.
Maybe the managers and spokesman should do a maths course, or a common sense course, if they run one.[/p][/quote]if you go on strike they get relief staff in .... they get paid for the day even if they only do 2 hours and that money has to come from somewhere ..... should the tax payer foot the bill ? .... no you should .... your days wage has paid for the relief staff .... simplelv8151

Jim271 wrote:
If I don't work, I don't get paid, why should my tax pay them for not working?

Stop moaning before they start importing lecturers from East Europe who will work for half the wage your currently getting.

Hang on a minute.
You're missing the point of the story.

&quot;If I don't work, I don't get paid". Yes, that's what anyone who goes on strike expects. You don't work; you don't get paid. Fair enough.

You go on strike for 2 HOURS. You should be deducted 2 HOURS' pay.
Simples.

Maybe the managers and spokesman should do a maths course, or a common sense course, if they run one.

if you go on strike they get relief staff in .... they get paid for the day even if they only do 2 hours and that money has to come from somewhere ..... should the tax payer foot the bill ? .... no you should .... your days wage has paid for the relief staff .... simple

What relief staff?
Does it say the University employed relief staff?
How would they even know which staff to provide cover for?

Let's call it what it is - punishment for striking.

[quote][p][bold]lv8151[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]StGibbs[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote:
If I don't work, I don't get paid, why should my tax pay them for not working?
Stop moaning before they start importing lecturers from East Europe who will work for half the wage your currently getting.[/p][/quote]Hang on a minute.
You're missing the point of the story.
"If I don't work, I don't get paid". Yes, that's what anyone who goes on strike expects. You don't work; you don't get paid. Fair enough.
You go on strike for 2 HOURS. You should be deducted 2 HOURS' pay.
Simples.
Maybe the managers and spokesman should do a maths course, or a common sense course, if they run one.[/p][/quote]if you go on strike they get relief staff in .... they get paid for the day even if they only do 2 hours and that money has to come from somewhere ..... should the tax payer foot the bill ? .... no you should .... your days wage has paid for the relief staff .... simple[/p][/quote]What relief staff?
Does it say the University employed relief staff?
How would they even know which staff to provide cover for?
Let's call it what it is - punishment for striking.StGibbs

Jim271 wrote:
If I don't work, I don't get paid, why should my tax pay them for not working?

Stop moaning before they start importing lecturers from East Europe who will work for half the wage your currently getting.

Hang on a minute.
You're missing the point of the story.

&quot;If I don't work, I don't get paid". Yes, that's what anyone who goes on strike expects. You don't work; you don't get paid. Fair enough.

You go on strike for 2 HOURS. You should be deducted 2 HOURS' pay.
Simples.

Maybe the managers and spokesman should do a maths course, or a common sense course, if they run one.

if you go on strike they get relief staff in .... they get paid for the day even if they only do 2 hours and that money has to come from somewhere ..... should the tax payer foot the bill ? .... no you should .... your days wage has paid for the relief staff .... simple

What relief staff?
Does it say the University employed relief staff?
How would they even know which staff to provide cover for?

Let's call it what it is - punishment for striking.

who would of took the classes then if no relief staff where there ..... i cant see where it said no relief staff where called in or students sent home

[quote][p][bold]StGibbs[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]lv8151[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]StGibbs[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote:
If I don't work, I don't get paid, why should my tax pay them for not working?
Stop moaning before they start importing lecturers from East Europe who will work for half the wage your currently getting.[/p][/quote]Hang on a minute.
You're missing the point of the story.
"If I don't work, I don't get paid". Yes, that's what anyone who goes on strike expects. You don't work; you don't get paid. Fair enough.
You go on strike for 2 HOURS. You should be deducted 2 HOURS' pay.
Simples.
Maybe the managers and spokesman should do a maths course, or a common sense course, if they run one.[/p][/quote]if you go on strike they get relief staff in .... they get paid for the day even if they only do 2 hours and that money has to come from somewhere ..... should the tax payer foot the bill ? .... no you should .... your days wage has paid for the relief staff .... simple[/p][/quote]What relief staff?
Does it say the University employed relief staff?
How would they even know which staff to provide cover for?
Let's call it what it is - punishment for striking.[/p][/quote]who would of took the classes then if no relief staff where there ..... i cant see where it said no relief staff where called in or students sent homelv8151

Jim271 wrote:
If I don't work, I don't get paid, why should my tax pay them for not working?

Stop moaning before they start importing lecturers from East Europe who will work for half the wage your currently getting.

Hang on a minute.
You're missing the point of the story.

&quot;If I don't work, I don't get paid". Yes, that's what anyone who goes on strike expects. You don't work; you don't get paid. Fair enough.

You go on strike for 2 HOURS. You should be deducted 2 HOURS' pay.
Simples.

Maybe the managers and spokesman should do a maths course, or a common sense course, if they run one.

if you go on strike they get relief staff in .... they get paid for the day even if they only do 2 hours and that money has to come from somewhere ..... should the tax payer foot the bill ? .... no you should .... your days wage has paid for the relief staff .... simple

Should the tax payer be footing the bill for the VC's salary of £256,000, a 25% pay increase awarded to himself. Money that could be put to better use and invested in improving students education and experience at the University of Bolton.
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[quote][p][bold]lv8151[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]StGibbs[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote:
If I don't work, I don't get paid, why should my tax pay them for not working?
Stop moaning before they start importing lecturers from East Europe who will work for half the wage your currently getting.[/p][/quote]Hang on a minute.
You're missing the point of the story.
"If I don't work, I don't get paid". Yes, that's what anyone who goes on strike expects. You don't work; you don't get paid. Fair enough.
You go on strike for 2 HOURS. You should be deducted 2 HOURS' pay.
Simples.
Maybe the managers and spokesman should do a maths course, or a common sense course, if they run one.[/p][/quote]if you go on strike they get relief staff in .... they get paid for the day even if they only do 2 hours and that money has to come from somewhere ..... should the tax payer foot the bill ? .... no you should .... your days wage has paid for the relief staff .... simple[/p][/quote]Should the tax payer be footing the bill for the VC's salary of £256,000, a 25% pay increase awarded to himself. Money that could be put to better use and invested in improving students education and experience at the University of Bolton.
.boltoncarer