I mean, i see the "specs" in the loadouts.. but i feel like the stauger is better... Can someone enlighten me?

I've maxed out vargen, then went back to stauger, which feels like it fits more my style.

But i have this doubt, everytime i play with people who do have the vargen...

Vargen is awesome at close range. If you hip fire the difference should be obvious to you. Vargen has a large clip and is simply a beast. It does have a barrel climb you have to watch out for. The Stauger is a great all around gun but lacks the power of the Vargen close up. So for Archives, Facility, maps with tunnels etc, you'll notice a difference. The Stauger is better at medium to far range though. I've made kills with the Stauger that are Terralite/Sniper worthy. I think the 2 guns fit nicely into 2 different play styles. Vargen/Hip-firing, Stauger/ADS. I used the Vargen more once I unlocked...after a bit of a struggle to tame it...

I use the Vargen on Archives, Docks, Nightclub, Facility, Sewer. I mainly use it with a Silencer but with that combination longer shots can be a pain as the sights are big and not very user friendly and can block out enemies at times when shooting at a farther distance, so I dont use the Vargen for longer shots unless I have it equiped with Sight Reflex or ACOG Scope which I dont do much since the gun isn't ment for long distance shots anyway.

I changed my Vargen for a Sigmus 9 & Stauger to mix it up and, yes. I've noticed a difference in point blank kills, I just wasn't getting them up in your face kills but still to far away to Melee. The Vargen holds it's own on medium length kills..... about the length of the Second floor hallway in Nightclub but I wouldn't go for any kills farther than that with it.

I like the Vargen some other people say different but they probably dont know how to use it or they are using it for the wrong reasons. Simply because I never had a problem with it and can really rack up kill streaks fast with it. I dont think it has to be significantly powerful gun for the fact that it pumps out ammo at such a fast rate which makes it so deadly.

Even though they are both classified as submachine guns they are complete opposits besides for the big clip sizes. Stauger is powerful but has a realitively slow fire rate. Power makes up for fire rate. Vargen is marginely powerful but makes up in shear fire power plus those 10 extra bullets if you aren't usuing the extended clip option is rather nice to have also if you find your self in a pinch.

Guns just come down to personal choice is all.

EDIT: Which I feel like also adding. I can't wait till I get the Multitask option. Paired up with a Vargen Spray and Pray and whichever Assult Rifle I feel like using should be a deadly combination :-)

EDIT: Which I feel like also adding. I can't wait till I get the Multitask option. Paired up with a Vargen Spray and Pray and whichever Assult Rifle I feel like using should be a deadly combination :-)

To test this out you can drop your pistol for a dropped terralite etc if you get the chance,
I find multitask kinda useless...

EDIT: Which I feel like also adding. I can't wait till I get the Multitask option. Paired up with a Vargen Spray and Pray and whichever Assult Rifle I feel like using should be a deadly combination :-)

To test this out you can drop your pistol for a dropped terralite etc if you get the chance,
I find multitask kinda useless...

EDIT: Which I feel like also adding. I can't wait till I get the Multitask option. Paired up with a Vargen Spray and Pray and whichever Assult Rifle I feel like using should be a deadly combination :-)

To test this out you can drop your pistol for a dropped terralite etc if you get the chance,
I find multitask kinda useless...

Really?! I mean, don't get me wrong, the Kunara is a fun gun, but having my Anova as primary and then my Terralite as a backup for when I run out of amo or need to make a long shot - priceless.

The Vargen is absolutely the superior weapon; the Stauger doesn't even compare to it. Use a laser with it and it's a beast. If you have the Vargen you also have the terralite. Use both of them; they each work better for a given situation than the Stauger does.

I've been wondering, ive talked about it in another thread, but i play with the classic pro controller. I play mainly ADS, as i find hip firing not that great with the controller. I mainly use it when in an awkward angle agaisnt an enemy that is close, but not close enough for melee.

I'd like to continue this thread, but add the ADS vs hip fire, on any gun/situation! I'd like to learn about different play styles and your opinions about it.

Its simple, i believe im a little better than average player, and i feel theres something i'm failing to grasp, that could make me lots better, even with the pro controller.