i only recognize half of those references, and i didn't want to watch even before i saw the picture in TFA:

it looks like one of those saturday morning tv shows they show at 10am for the 10 year olds , as opposed to 8am cartoons for the 6 year olds. 2x more production skillz than power rangers, 10x less cool than the tribe, with more than a little wish-i-was-kevin-sorbo.

Agents of shield is trying to tap into the success of comic books, but missing the point completely.

"Procedurals are popular. Marvel is popular. A Marvel procedural would be popular too!"

Not so fast, TV execs.Very spicy curry is popular. Sex is popular. But very spicy water based lube would not find a foothold in the market. Sometimes two good things don't combine well. If you want to tap into comic book success, you have to actually know why comics are successful. You can't just make the same old show TV with a comic book title.

cheezitmojo:So if I watch the episode of Agents of Shield before I watch Thor 2, will there be spoilers of the movie?

So far they haven't spoiled anything from the movies in AoS other than Coulson is still around in some form or other regardless of his apparent demise in The Avengers. They've taken things that were plot points in some of the movies like Asgard technology and Extremis, but they haven't spoiled anything in terms of how those things were used in the movies.

As far as this episode goes, it looks like it will possibly spoil things from Thor: TDW, so, see Thor 2 before you see this one. I'm actually really excited about the second Thor movie, the first one was a huge surprise to me for how good it was, and the early reviews from the overseas premiers have been extremely positive.

doglover:Agents of shield is trying to tap into the success of comic books, but missing the point completely.

"Procedurals are popular. Marvel is popular. A Marvel procedural would be popular too!"

Not so fast, TV execs.Very spicy curry is popular. Sex is popular. But very spicy water based lube would not find a foothold in the market. Sometimes two good things don't combine well. If you want to tap into comic book success, you have to actually know why comics are successful. You can't just make the same old show TV with a comic book title.

I keep hearing it being called a procedural, and while it may borrow certain elements, that isn't really the feel of the show. They need to do a better job of creating the season spanning arcs, but so far it's been much more fluid than something like CSI or NCIS.

TuteTibiImperes:cheezitmojo: So if I watch the episode of Agents of Shield before I watch Thor 2, will there be spoilers of the movie?

So far they haven't spoiled anything from the movies in AoS other than Coulson is still around in some form or other regardless of his apparent demise in The Avengers. They've taken things that were plot points in some of the movies like Asgard technology and Extremis, but they haven't spoiled anything in terms of how those things were used in the movies.

As far as this episode goes, it looks like it will possibly spoil things from Thor: TDW, so, see Thor 2 before you see this one. I'm actually really excited about the second Thor movie, the first one was a huge surprise to me for how good it was, and the early reviews from the overseas premiers have been extremely positive.

But this was kind of my point: what if I don't get a chance to see the movie before I see the episode.

TuteTibiImperes:doglover: Agents of shield is trying to tap into the success of comic books, but missing the point completely.

"Procedurals are popular. Marvel is popular. A Marvel procedural would be popular too!"

Not so fast, TV execs.Very spicy curry is popular. Sex is popular. But very spicy water based lube would not find a foothold in the market. Sometimes two good things don't combine well. If you want to tap into comic book success, you have to actually know why comics are successful. You can't just make the same old show TV with a comic book title.

I keep hearing it being called a procedural, and while it may borrow certain elements, that isn't really the feel of the show. They need to do a better job of creating the season spanning arcs, but so far it's been much more fluid than something like CSI or NCIS.

A better name might work.

If you dress your cast in suits and call them "Agents" guess what image crops into everyone's head? Then you have a pilot where said people in suits spent a lot of time in offices and wind up taking down someone dangerous without any injuries with clever but typical agent teamwork?

If it's gotten better, I'll go back and check it out. But really the time is nigh for a Deadpool movie. Marvel should really make that happen nowish.

doglover:TuteTibiImperes: doglover: Agents of shield is trying to tap into the success of comic books, but missing the point completely.

"Procedurals are popular. Marvel is popular. A Marvel procedural would be popular too!"

Not so fast, TV execs.Very spicy curry is popular. Sex is popular. But very spicy water based lube would not find a foothold in the market. Sometimes two good things don't combine well. If you want to tap into comic book success, you have to actually know why comics are successful. You can't just make the same old show TV with a comic book title.

I keep hearing it being called a procedural, and while it may borrow certain elements, that isn't really the feel of the show. They need to do a better job of creating the season spanning arcs, but so far it's been much more fluid than something like CSI or NCIS.

A better name might work.

If you dress your cast in suits and call them "Agents" guess what image crops into everyone's head? Then you have a pilot where said people in suits spent a lot of time in offices and wind up taking down someone dangerous without any injuries with clever but typical agent teamwork?

If it's gotten better, I'll go back and check it out. But really the time is nigh for a Deadpool movie. Marvel should really make that happen nowish.

I think Fox still owns the rights to Deadpool. It's been getting better. I liked the pilot, thought it took a little step back in the second episode, but then started getting better as things went along. It still has a lot of room to grow, but less than halfway through the first season there's still plenty of time for it to do it.

I've been watching Breaking Bad on Netflix, and for all the raves it gets, for me it took until the episode where Saul shows up in the 2nd season before it really picked up, and it still feels a bit wobbly at times.

The episode of Dollhouse that Frakes directed was great, so I have high hopes for what he can do here.

doglover:TuteTibiImperes: doglover: Agents of shield is trying to tap into the success of comic books, but missing the point completely.

"Procedurals are popular. Marvel is popular. A Marvel procedural would be popular too!"

Not so fast, TV execs.Very spicy curry is popular. Sex is popular. But very spicy water based lube would not find a foothold in the market. Sometimes two good things don't combine well. If you want to tap into comic book success, you have to actually know why comics are successful. You can't just make the same old show TV with a comic book title.

I keep hearing it being called a procedural, and while it may borrow certain elements, that isn't really the feel of the show. They need to do a better job of creating the season spanning arcs, but so far it's been much more fluid than something like CSI or NCIS.

A better name might work.

If you dress your cast in suits and call them "Agents" guess what image crops into everyone's head? Then you have a pilot where said people in suits spent a lot of time in offices and wind up taking down someone dangerous without any injuries with clever but typical agent teamwork?

If it's gotten better, I'll go back and check it out. But really the time is nigh for a Deadpool movie. Marvel should really make that happen nowish.

If only Fox didn't apparently own the rights to him. He didn't appear in Wolverine by mistake.

the801:i only recognize half of those references, and i didn't want to watch even before i saw the picture in TFA:

it looks like one of those saturday morning tv shows they show at 10am for the 10 year olds , as opposed to 8am cartoons for the 6 year olds. 2x more production skillz than power rangers, 10x less cool than the tribe, with more than a little wish-i-was-kevin-sorbo.

That's a scene from the movie. Thor's not going to appear on the show.

TuteTibiImperes:I keep hearing it being called a procedural, and while it may borrow certain elements, that isn't really the feel of the show. They need to do a better job of creating the season spanning arcs

I think their initial order was like 6 episodes, so there's not much room there to do anything other than establish the characters, the tone and set up some plot points that can grow into plot arcs.

They did receive a full order for the rest of the season, so once they get through the first group of episodes, they SHOULD get better and more intriguing.

Shostie:TuteTibiImperes: I keep hearing it being called a procedural, and while it may borrow certain elements, that isn't really the feel of the show. They need to do a better job of creating the season spanning arcs

I think their initial order was like 6 episodes, so there's not much room there to do anything other than establish the characters, the tone and set up some plot points that can grow into plot arcs.

They did receive a full order for the rest of the season, so once they get through the first group of episodes, they SHOULD get better and more intriguing.

Cool, I didn't know how many they'd filmed before the premier and the full order came in.

I actually really like it so far. It has potential to be better, sure, but I'm enjoying it for what it is so far.

TuteTibiImperes:cheezitmojo: So if I watch the episode of Agents of Shield before I watch Thor 2, will there be spoilers of the movie?

So far they haven't spoiled anything from the movies in AoS other than Coulson is still around in some form or other regardless of his apparent demise in The Avengers. They've taken things that were plot points in some of the movies like Asgard technology and Extremis, but they haven't spoiled anything in terms of how those things were used in the movies.

As far as this episode goes, it looks like it will possibly spoil things from Thor: TDW, so, see Thor 2 before you see this one. I'm actually really excited about the second Thor movie, the first one was a huge surprise to me for how good it was, and the early reviews from the overseas premiers have been extremely positive.

Thor was my favorite of the Phase 1 movies. I am pleased that we'll get more Sif in Thor 2. I admire her fighting technique.

Mentat:TuteTibiImperes: cheezitmojo: So if I watch the episode of Agents of Shield before I watch Thor 2, will there be spoilers of the movie?

So far they haven't spoiled anything from the movies in AoS other than Coulson is still around in some form or other regardless of his apparent demise in The Avengers. They've taken things that were plot points in some of the movies like Asgard technology and Extremis, but they haven't spoiled anything in terms of how those things were used in the movies.

As far as this episode goes, it looks like it will possibly spoil things from Thor: TDW, so, see Thor 2 before you see this one. I'm actually really excited about the second Thor movie, the first one was a huge surprise to me for how good it was, and the early reviews from the overseas premiers have been extremely positive.

Thor was my favorite of the Phase 1 movies. I am pleased that we'll get more Sif in Thor 2. I admire her fighting technique.

Thor's buddies were fun, I hope they have a bigger role in this one. This is going to be one of those movies I'm actually going to brave the theater for in the opening week. Normally I like to wait for a while until the crowds die down, but I'm excited enough about this one to risk a packed house.

HawgWild:People are excited to see the next Thor movie? The only movie worse than the last Thor movie was the Captain America movie. Ugh. Couldn't even make it through that one.

/I know, I know//"stop liking what I don't like"

na i agree with you. captain america was sadly the only movie i ever fell asleep to in a theatre; too damn predictable/forgettable. market is over-saturated of comic book movies/shows with piss-poor writing.

the801:i only recognize half of those references, and i didn't want to watch even before i saw the picture in TFA:

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it looks like one of those saturday morning tv shows they show at 10am for the 10 year olds , as opposed to 8am cartoons for the 6 year olds. 2x more production skillz than power rangers, 10x less cool than the tribe, with more than a little wish-i-was-kevin-sorbo.

You'd think they'd use the costume from the movie but it looks like they told their wardrobe people to whip something up using the show's budget.

Snapper Carr:the801: i only recognize half of those references, and i didn't want to watch even before i saw the picture in TFA:

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it looks like one of those saturday morning tv shows they show at 10am for the 10 year olds , as opposed to 8am cartoons for the 6 year olds. 2x more production skillz than power rangers, 10x less cool than the tribe, with more than a little wish-i-was-kevin-sorbo.

You'd think they'd use the costume from the movie but it looks like they told their wardrobe people to whip something up using the show's budget.

sn0wblind:HawgWild: People are excited to see the next Thor movie? The only movie worse than the last Thor movie was the Captain America movie. Ugh. Couldn't even make it through that one.

/I know, I know//"stop liking what I don't like"

na i agree with you. captain america was sadly the only movie i ever fell asleep to in a theatre; too damn predictable/forgettable. market is over-saturated of comic book movies/shows with piss-poor writing.

From the trailer Captain America 2 looks to be a lot better. I thought the first was OK, but I agree it's on the weaker side of the Marvel movies so far, Thor was certainly better, and might edge out the Iron Man sequels.

Snapper Carr:the801: i only recognize half of those references, and i didn't want to watch even before i saw the picture in TFA:

[img2.timeinc.net image 612x458]

it looks like one of those saturday morning tv shows they show at 10am for the 10 year olds , as opposed to 8am cartoons for the 6 year olds. 2x more production skillz than power rangers, 10x less cool than the tribe, with more than a little wish-i-was-kevin-sorbo.

You'd think they'd use the costume from the movie but it looks like they told their wardrobe people to whip something up using the show's budget.

That's the Thor costume used in The Avengers movie. I guess they wanted to show off his guns and got rid of the scale mail on the arms from the Thor movie.

TuteTibiImperes:cheezitmojo: So if I watch the episode of Agents of Shield before I watch Thor 2, will there be spoilers of the movie?

So far they haven't spoiled anything from the movies in AoS other than Coulson is still around in some form or other regardless of his apparent demise in The Avengers. They've taken things that were plot points in some of the movies like Asgard technology and Extremis, but they haven't spoiled anything in terms of how those things were used in the movies.

As far as this episode goes, it looks like it will possibly spoil things from Thor: TDW, so, see Thor 2 before you see this one. I'm actually really excited about the second Thor movie, the first one was a huge surprise to me for how good it was, and the early reviews from the overseas premiers have been extremely positive.

There's no way they will spoil the movie in a TV episode that airs before the movie comes out - not a chance

DontMakeMeComeBackThere:TuteTibiImperes: cheezitmojo: So if I watch the episode of Agents of Shield before I watch Thor 2, will there be spoilers of the movie?

So far they haven't spoiled anything from the movies in AoS other than Coulson is still around in some form or other regardless of his apparent demise in The Avengers. They've taken things that were plot points in some of the movies like Asgard technology and Extremis, but they haven't spoiled anything in terms of how those things were used in the movies.

As far as this episode goes, it looks like it will possibly spoil things from Thor: TDW, so, see Thor 2 before you see this one. I'm actually really excited about the second Thor movie, the first one was a huge surprise to me for how good it was, and the early reviews from the overseas premiers have been extremely positive.

There's no way they will spoil the movie in a TV episode that airs before the movie comes out - not a chance

It comes out two weeks after the US premier of the movie and three weeks after the UK premiere (where AoS has been pretty strong). I imagine they'll keep the spoilers to a minimum as much as they can, but part of the concept of the show has been tie-ins to the movies. I'm sure Disney would love to encourage people to go see the movies sooner to help drive big opening numbers and buzz for later success, so having some time bombs in a popular show that encourage people to go out and see the movie quickly makes some sense.

the801:i only recognize half of those references, and i didn't want to watch even before i saw the picture in TFA:

[img2.timeinc.net image 612x458]

it looks like one of those saturday morning tv shows they show at 10am for the 10 year olds , as opposed to 8am cartoons for the 6 year olds. 2x more production skillz than power rangers, 10x less cool than the tribe, with more than a little wish-i-was-kevin-sorbo.

cheezitmojo:TuteTibiImperes: cheezitmojo: So if I watch the episode of Agents of Shield before I watch Thor 2, will there be spoilers of the movie?

So far they haven't spoiled anything from the movies in AoS other than Coulson is still around in some form or other regardless of his apparent demise in The Avengers. They've taken things that were plot points in some of the movies like Asgard technology and Extremis, but they haven't spoiled anything in terms of how those things were used in the movies.

As far as this episode goes, it looks like it will possibly spoil things from Thor: TDW, so, see Thor 2 before you see this one. I'm actually really excited about the second Thor movie, the first one was a huge surprise to me for how good it was, and the early reviews from the overseas premiers have been extremely positive.

But this was kind of my point: what if I don't get a chance to see the movie before I see the episode.

Tax Boy:HawgWild: People are excited to see the next Thor movie? The only movie worse than the last Thor movie

Thor was rather entertaining, until it became obvious that they ran out of budget and had the climactic battle in an abandoned "western" set that made it look like a MST3K production.

/meow-meow

I think what may have been a problem with Thor was the Phase 1 movies were supposed to be origin stories. How did he get his powers? Well he's an alien "God." Ok now we need another 1h 54min. It has actually grown on me in the last couple of viewings but with a few rewrites to get it down to 1:30 it probably could have been better.

Gunther:ThatBillmanGuy: This. He gets his powers taken away, then get banished to Earth. So how does he earn his powers back? By making Natalie Portman breakfast? Taking a metal hand to the face?

Yeah, I mean; it's not like Odin tells him he'll get his powers back when he becomes worthy of them (eg, by dying in a fight to protect innocent people) or anything.

It's not a great movie, but if you missed that I'm wondering whether you were paying enough attention for your opinion of it to be worth anything.

Wow, way to make it personal. Pleeeease teach me to watch movies since you're so much better at it than everyone else.

Do I care if you value my opinion? Not entirely. This is a forum for people to discuss things and sometimes those opinions may differ from yours, right?

Anyway, I agree that it's not a great film, but it's not bad either. I'm just saying his time on Earth seemed rather.... pointless for the most part. Yeah, dying to save a bunch of innocent people proves he's not the warmongering asshole Odin thought he was. But as far as character development reaching that point, it just seemed forced and tacked on, to me. But that's my worthless opinion. Next time I'll read the cliff notes version of what we're allowed to have an opinion on according to Gunther.