Do you think Jim Hoft, renowned as the Dumbest Man on the Internet, is actually so incredibly dense that he didn’t realize the video he posted here is a lame right wing parody with badly overdubbed voices?

Or did he post it without even watching it? There’s no indication in the incoherent drivel he wrote that he understood this isn’t a real interview with Al Gore.

Leave it to Hoft’s Minions to make the Money Quote:Whiskeytangofoxtrot • an hour ago
This man, to me, is only one of our modern day examples of how depraved, morally bankrupt, and spiritually vacuous our society seem to have become.

Of course the dumb thinking process here is something akin to “Al Gore sold Current TV to Al Jazeera in order for them to set a foot hold on American culture and push Sharia law on the USA for the eventual Muslim takeover of the United States of America, under God, and see I told you Al Gore was a secret Muslim.”

TGDN is all excited about SCOTUS hearing Orly Taitz. Their tears after the smackdown will be SOOO delicious.

I say that SCOTUS should turn Justice Scalia loose on her. Tell him to tear into what ever DERP! she submitted with as much venom and sarcasm as he can muster. Orly Taitz needs to be mocked brutally in order to make clear that she’s a fool,

Even allowing that, my point still stands. Even just scanning the entire page would have revealed it to be a parody. Being sloppy makes a person look foolish.

Not really. Sometimes a parody is difficult to detect. The one Hoft posted is most assuredly not one of those. And at LGF you cant get away with it. The posters here will call you out quickly, and the one who posted will apologize and/or correct. Something Hoft never does.

On another note, remember how, if 100-300 teabaggers show up at a rally, it gets OMG OBAMA IZ HATED BY EVERYONE!!111! coverage in the corporate media? Meanwhile, little more than *crickets* in response to this:

What a day! Over 40,000 people poured into the streets of Washington, DC today to push President Obama to take our nation “Forward on Climate” and say no to the Keystone XL pipeline.

Our team here at 350.org had expected a crowd, but this was MASSIVE. Volunteers from around the country organized 130 buses to get people to the rally and it showed: there were people of all ages from Florida to Wisconsin to California here today.

Fox News et al. would be creaming themselves if 1/4 that many showed up at an anti-Obama rally (after ridiculously inflating crowd estimates and splicing unrelated footage together to make it seem much larger than it actually was, of course)

Couple of things. That’s not Sharia, but Surah Al-Ma’idah 5:33 from the Quran. Others have mentioned that this is once again subject to translation, and interpretation as with most religious texts. Yusuf al-Qaradawi however remains a rather controversial figure that is given a voice by Al Jazeera.

Excerpts from Wiki:

• Yusuf al-Qaradawi (Arabic: يوسف القرضاوي Yūsuf al-Qaraḍāwī‎; or Yusuf al-Qardawi; born 9 September 1926) is an Egyptian Islamic theologian. He is best known for his programme, al-Sharīʿa wa al-Ḥayāh (“Shariah and Life”), broadcast on Al Jazeera, which has an estimated audience of 60 million worldwide.

• In 2004, 2,500 Muslim academics from Saudi Arabia, Iraq and from the Palestinian territories condemned Qaradawi, and accused him of giving “Islam a bad name.”

• Throughout history, Allah has imposed upon the Jews people who would punish them for their corruption…The last punishment was carried out by [Adolf] Hitler. By means of all the things he did to them – even though they exaggerated this issue – he managed to put them in their place. This was divine punishment for them…Allah Willing, the next time will be at the hand of the believers. — Yusuf al-Qaradawi

Don’t expect anything earthshaking, like sanctions against Taitz. She’s already accused most of the SC of treason, and mentioned that they have some dodgy people clerking there, like Turks and Hispanics, who are obviously traitors. It will be entertaining to see what she calls them when they ignore her yet gain.

5:33 The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter

The context of this verse itself will clear any negative perceptions against Islam. One cannot quote verse 5:33 without quoting verse 5:32 (prohibition of murder) and verse 5:34 (command to forgive). Let us examine the verse in its proper context:

5:32-34 …If any one slew a person - unless it be as punishment for murder or for spreading corruption in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter; Except for those who repent before they fall into your power: in that case, know that Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

There are several points to note here. The first is the gravity of the offense. This is punishment for WAGING WAR against the Prophet of God and spreading evil and destruction. In modern terminology this would be considered “terrorism”. This is a punishment for such a severe offense, hence the severity of the punishment. As Muhammad Asad writes on this verse:

Of course, the “evidence” is nothing but 600+ pages of pure crap Taitz has collected from the internet and shipped off, expecting the Court to collate it, verify it, and make her case for her. Since they never do that, they’re all Commie traitors, just like in Nazi Germany.

Unfortunately, yes. I can only hold Etruscan and Atlantean in my head at one time.

How anyone can take any of these books as authoritative is beyond me, they’ve gone through so many revisions, with intentional and unintentional changes, they can’t reflect the original writings reliably.

Of course the dumb thinking process here is something akin to “Al Gore sold Current TV to Al Jazeera in order for them to set a foot hold on American culture and push Sharia law on the USA for the eventual Muslim takeover of the United States of America, under God, and see I told you Al Gore was a secret Muslim.”

Isn’t a Saudi prince a major share holder of Fox News Network? I believe they practice a pretty severe form of Sharia law do they not?

Ever since Al Gore sold Current TV to Al Jazeera, the network founded and funded by the oil-rich emirate of Qatar, the former vice president has drawn continuous fire in conservative media. Fox News, the New York Post and the Wall Street Journal, for example, have all castigated Gore, a man of the left and leading avatar of “global warming,” for such hypocrisies as timing the deal to avoid lefty tax hikes and bagging $100 million in greenhouse-gas money.

These same news outlets share something else in common: They all belong to Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. That means they also belong to Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal…

Flip a coin! I do find the words of Yusuf al-Qaradawi to be rather troubling and the fact that AJ broadcasts it to 60 million around the world. We have our very own controversial clerics of course and perhaps many of those controversial statement go in one ear and out the other? Much like many people who attend church with a very homophobic pastor yet are they themselves pro-LGBT. Not making a direct comparison here since everything come in a spectrum or scale. There’s also context of quotes and the often garbled translation which comes from the Middle East. Anyway, read #44 to see what I’m talking about.

As the ink still dries on the Current TV-Al Jazeera deal, Fox News has unsurprisingly sounded the alarm on Al Gore’s “anti-American” nature. However, as Jon Stewart pointed out on last night’s Daily Show, somehow they’ve overlooked boss Rupert Murdoch’s twenty-percent stake in Rotana, an Arab station co-owned by Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal and accountable for airing Valley of the Wolves, a film in which American soldiers massacre Iraqi civilians and sell their organs to Jews. “Rupert Murdoch profiting from the airing of that type of anti-American propaganda?” says Stewart. Say it ain’t so. Stewart did concede that “Al Jazeera’s Arabic channel has broadcast some very hateful stuff,” and that it’s a subsidiary — along with Al Jazeera English, the news station that will be airing in Current’s place — of the Qatar-based buyer, the Al Jazeera Media Network.

Thanks. Was trying to make one in PS but was having problems. Then include Iran and most of Pakistan in those manufactured grievances. All the while they concern troll about Palestine with doing very little for them. It’s such a political prop for the Arab and pan-Arab politicians.

Thanks. Was trying to make one in PS but was having problems. Then include Iran and most of Pakistan in those manufactured grievances. All the while they concern troll about Palestine with doing very little for them. It’s such a political prop for the Arab and pan-Arab politicians.

That map shows the Arab nations. Iran, Pakistan, Indonesia, various “stans” former Soviet republics are Muslim nations but not Arab.

Thanks. Was trying to make one in PS but was having problems. Then include Iran and most of Pakistan in those manufactured grievances. All the while they concern troll about Palestine with doing very little for them. It’s such a political prop for the Arab and pan-Arab politicians.

It’s easier to lead a disaffected populace around by the nose when you keep them hopped up all of the time on fear and hatred of the “other”.

This is one tactic that despotic Arab regimes and the TPGOP can fully agree on.

You read stories like this, and then you hear conservatives scream that America has a “spending problem.” Indeed, it’s called these companies are spending a shitload of money to avoid paying a dime’s worth of taxes.

You read stories like this, and then you hear conservatives scream that America has a “spending problem.” Indeed, it’s called these companies are spending a shitload of money to avoid paying a dime’s worth of taxes.

True.

Carnival is incorporated in Bermuda, has its corporate offices in Miami, and flags most of its vessels in the Bahamas.

You know it drives me nuts because, in an ideally run corporation (I know, har har har but…), EVERYONE gains wealth from the enterprise. There’s no reason in a well run company that the CEO can’t still make millions and the rest of the employees can at least earn a living wage and basic health benefits.

It’s such simple logic: You look after your people and they’ll look after you.

Apple contracts Foxxcon to make those products in order to increase their profits and avoid paying American wages. This allows Apple to be second to Exxon in the most profitable corporation. So they are by default Apple employees since if they used domestic labor they would likely contract to a minimum wage outfit. In the old days they wouldn’t contract the work out.

At one time manufacturers needed a source of customers with enough expendable income to afford to buy products. Now, with a global market, they have several billion customers to buy their products so employee income isn’t as important.

As far as I know its dependent on the labor laws of the country where the manufacturing is being done. If no laws are being broken, it’s perfectly ok to slave drive people 16 hours/day for 0.10/hour.

Not the question. Sorry, but when I said ‘off the hook” I didn’t mean a LEGAL one, but a moral one. Arrow comes across as a clean cut all American company. Can’t be that while your supplier is abusing children, legal or not

((and BTW ,,, it’s a total hypothetical scenario. I have no clue as to where/ how Arrow has their shirts made))

From what I understand, paying too much more than the going wage in some countries leads to a different set of issues.

Yes, that can happen, because the competition for the very high paying jobs can get ugly. And paying those wages may also cause local government officals to ‘ask’ a company to hire ‘some friends of friends’, as corrupt regimes often maintain tight control over how has access to the best jobs.

Wal-Mart caught a lot heat (no pun intended) for that clothing manufacturing facility fire in India. Both are de facto employees of each other. In a perfect world Apple would have American employees working under an American flagged Apple factory in Anytown, USA.

Wal-Mart caught a lot heat (no pun intended) for that clothing manufacturing facility fire in India. Both are de facto employees of each other. In a perfect world Apple would have American employees working under an American flagged Apple factory in Anytown, USA.

THen the people in China (or wherever) would have no job and fewer people would have apple products.

Each culture has to evolve at their own pace. I don’t like it, but that seems to be the way lasting change happens.

THen the people in China (or wherever) would have no job and fewer people would have apple products.

Each culture has to evolve at their own pace. I don’t like it, but that seems to be the way lasting change happens.

Then expect more Detroits.

There is a plus side of course. I think that a lot of this Chinese manufacturing has contributed to global peace and was part of the demise of the Cold War. It also provides jobs for a lot of third world people.

There is a plus side of course. I think that a lot of this Chinese manufacturing has contributed to global peace and was part of the demise of the Cold War. It also provides jobs for a lot of third world people.

Not the question. Sorry, but when I said ‘off the hook” I didn’t mean a LEGAL one, but a moral one. Arrow comes across as a clean cut all American company. Can’t be that while your supplier is abusing children, legal or not

((and BTW ,,, it’s a total hypothetical scenario. I have no clue as to where/ how Arrow has their shirts made))

Yep that’s why companies love subcontractors. Something goes wrong, some scandal breaks out, they can blame it all on the contractor and wash their hands off it.

You’d be surprised how many things are actually “outsourced” by way of being run by third party companies.

We’ve been “exporting” american values for so long, what did everyone think would happen? Once more and more countries come to 1st world development, they we become competition. If American’s think the status quo in this country will continue, they are blind to reality.

The aim was to have a “Global Economy”!
Well Houston, we have a Global Economy, where we are now on a macro level (country vs country) that you used to see on a micro level (cities and towns competing for businesses)

I think that a lot of this Chinese manufacturing has contributed to global peace and was part of the demise of the Cold War. It also provides jobs for a lot of third world people.

It really is one of those “give with one hand, take with the other” sort of deals - yes, they get a measure of “prosperity” they otherwise wouldn’t have, but at a horrible, horrible, environmental cost, which - if allowed to get bad enough - will send all that peace and prosperity down the proverbial toilet.

It really is one of those “give with one hand, take with the other” sort of deals - yes, they get a measure of “prosperity” they otherwise wouldn’t have, but at a horrible, horrible, environmental cost, which - if allowed to get bad enough - will send all that peace and prosperity down the proverbial toilet.

Also of note: China, India and the U.S. are amongst the three largest producers of greenhouse gas emissions on the planet. Even if all the other nations on earth made a pact to try and lower emissions and those three countries abstained their would be little if no positive impact from the effort.

We have so much invested in China that the Chinese are not about to suddenly start going green (mind you they are working hard at alternative energy and such) but as long as there’s money providing slave labor manufacturing for American companies, China will be belching smog.

You’d be surprised how many things are actually “outsourced” by way of being run by third party companies.

I’m well aware

But it doesn’t always indemnify the company doing the outsourcing from culpability, either legally or in the court of public opinion

True, but companies generally THINK it will, which is why they commonly fall back on that strategy.

For example, awhile back I remember a story about Comcast tech in a Comcast van doing some improper things and getting busted for it. Comcast said it wasn’t actually their problem because this was a third party contractor that worked on behalf of Comcast. They just cut the cord with the contractor, gave themselves a pat on the back and resumed business as usual.

True, but companies generally THINK it will, which is why they commonly fall back on that strategy.

For example, awhile back I remember a story about Comcast tech in a Comcast van doing some improper things and getting busted for it. Comcast said it wasn’t actually their problem because this was a third party contractor that worked on behalf of Comcast. They just cut the cord with the contractor, gave themselves a pat on the back and resumed business as usual.

But that you (and others) recall it it does stain Comcast, hence my comment re: the court of public opinion

I think Jim Hoft actually writes his blog posts from a random computer in the aisle at Best Buy, but sometimes he forgets to sign off and then someone else comes along and sees Hoft’s Blogger account left open and then they post parody like this on his site.

Good. Of course there is a free speech issue. Do we arrest and imprison people for hate speech such as this? Would it pass constitutional muster in the USA?

Interesting question. I would guess that even in the US with free speech protection it would be considered incitement. You can say thing like “god hates fags” which is protected speech but if you say “god wants you to kill fags” would be incitement to violence. Not Protected by free speech or freedom of religion.

Interesting question. I would guess that even in the US with free speech protection it would be considered incitement. You can say thing like “god hates fags” which is protected speech but if you say “god wants you to kill fags” would be incitement to violence. Not Protected by free speech of freedom of religion.

Yeah. Sort of like “hate people X” versus “I want you to go out there and kill the X people.”

Yeah. Sort of like “hate people X” versus “I want you to go out there and kill the X people.”

Of course the Egyptians are just fucking with him because he’s a problem and a dickhead but under American understanding of freedom you can pray for your god to kill or hate people but you can’t say you’re god says it’s ok to kill people. The former is imaginary and more or less harmless, the latter is a religious justification/obligation to commit a crime.

Of course the Egyptians are just fucking with him because he’s a problem and a dickhead but under American understanding of freedom you can pray for your god to kill or hate people but you can’t say you’re god says it’s ok to kill people. The former is imaginary and more or less harmless, the latter is a religious justification/obligation to commit a crime.

There’s been a bit of a crime wave in my neighborhood over the past year or so. A few days ago there was an attempted home invasion at the house across the street form me. Even the most progressive, hippy, non-profit worker and generic protester is thinking of buying guns soon before laws change. Kind of interesting to see the process. Pretty soon my block is going to look like this

Interesting question. I would guess that even in the US with free speech protection it would be considered incitement. You can say thing like “god hates fags” which is protected speech but if you say “god wants you to kill fags” would be incitement to violence. Not Protected by free speech or freedom of religion.

No, its not really incitement unless you actually tell someone to go rape and kill. There are people, for example, who freely say that murdering abortion doctors is justifiable homicide without getting arrested for it.

re: #214 sattv4u2
If he’d been a real bullshitter he wouldn’t have bowed out of an election he in fact won. Don’t you think bullshitter is more apt for the guy who ended up in office when Gore won the election?

Nobody “minimized it”, but just as you postulated that ” would the movie have been made without Gore?” and “would the movie have been as influential without Gore’s notoriety and presentations” doesn’t alter that he had to have Hollywood help (i.e. Laurie and Larry) to get it done

Nobody “minimized it”, but just as you postulated that ” would the movie have been made without Gore?” and “would the movie have been as influential without Gore’s notoriety and presentations” doesn’t alter that he had to have Hollywood help (i.e. Laurie and Larry) to get it done

Would the polar ice caps still be melting even if Al Gore’s movie had never been made. yes, without a doubt. Would Gore have gotten so rich and famous without the movie? Well, he had already been the VP so he was already famous, as for rich, he is just a different flavor of Mitt Romney.. He used his influence and position to get richer. Is Al Gore an opportunistic dick who is mostly concerned with promoting Al Gore? in my opinion yes.

Nobody “minimized it”, but just as you postulated that ” would the movie have been made without Gore?” and “would the movie have been as influential without Gore’s notoriety and presentations” doesn’t alter that he had to have Hollywood help (i.e. Laurie and Larry) to get it done

OK, but I don’t remember saying he did it alone. My only point was that he was an important player in the early popularization of AGW science. That he had help doesn’t make him less important unless there is only so much ‘importance’ to share among the contributors.

Gore now has more money than principles, but he still devoted a ton of time and energy to what is probably the most important cause of our generation. His motives for doing so may be unclear. maybe he wanted a legacy, maybe he wanted to run for president again. I have no clue. But it really doesn’t matter that much. He was raising awareness of the issue and calling for action. I don’t think that the nutbar right-wing reaction to climate change was because it was Al Gore, I think it was much more rooted in religious fervor and simple greedheadedness. I think he did a lot of good in publicizing climate change, and he took a fuckton of shit for it too.

He sold out, literally, but that doesn’t erase what he did before, either. But he definitely sold out, and he must have known that this would work to discredit his previous advocacy, so it does take away from it somewhat.

If he’d been a real bullshitter he wouldn’t have bowed out of an election he in fact won. Don’t you think bullshitter is more apt for the guy who ended up in office when Gore won the election?

He didn’t bow out, he took it to the supreme court.

I heard him on the radio today, he said that he took the supreme court decision gracefully because, and I quote “We looked into it, and there is no stage in between accepting a supreme court decision and rebellion!”

Think about it, the Supreme Court is the highest court in the land, after a Supreme Court decision, there is no place to appeal to. It’s over.

Fun. Just got off the phone with my drunk, trainwreck, alkie half brother who called me randomly while on a bender. He’s facing trial for DUI in a few weeks but spent a half out spinning some elaborate story about how he wants to sail to New Zealand with friends but needs help because he left his passport on another boat that’s currently stuck somewhere off the coast of Russia. It’s all a bullshit confabulation, dude hasn’t been out of the country in over a decade.

I am a bit embarassed over the way that he thought he could could just announce his retirement for politics, take up a cause (global warming) and think that it would automatically elevate him to the level of respected elder statesman, above and beyound politics.

Although I find his cause noble and agree with most of his message, his approach wound up giving anti-AGW folks a face and a target to rally against and turned a lot of people who were neutral or simply unaware of the issue into ravernous AGW deniers, just because of the fact that they hated Al Gore and his politics.

And now the arguments really are heard that Al Gore is a dick/hypocrite, therefore AGW is a hoax. It is truly sad.

Meh, those same people are dupes to propaganda paid for by oil execs and executed by all those old hand tobacco-is-good-for-you fake scientists and liars at the Heritage Foundation.

If a former Democrat Vice president wasn’t promoting AGW, they’d still love to hate all those scientists, those environmentalists, those hippies. They’d still buy the idea that science is a socialist plot against capitalism, they’d still buy the idea that environmentalism is heresy against the dogma of a benevolent God.

I heard him on the radio today, he said that he took the supreme court decision gracefully because, and I quote “We looked into it, and there is no stage in between accepting a supreme court decision and rebellion!”

Think about it, the Supreme Court is the highest court in the land, after a Supreme Court decision, there is no place to appeal to. It’s over.

There’s the Senate, the constitution provides specifically for a procedure. (at the time it was an even split, and VP-still-standing-Gore would have been the tiebreaking vote, and… it would have been ugly, and R’s would have complained vehemently forever about doing it that way, but… IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ENTIRELY LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL).

He chose not to do that because the result would have been a country even more bitterly divided than it actually is anyway — that playing every possible legal maneuver and working the rules and getting the big chair was less important to him than what that would have done to the country’s mood/tone.

There’s the Senate, the constitution provides specifically for a procedure. (at the time it was an even split, and VP-still-standing-Gore would have been the tiebreaking vote, and… it would have been ugly, and R’s would have complained vehemently forever about doing it that way, but… IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ENTIRELY LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL).

He chose not to do that because the result would have been a country even more bitterly divided than it actually is anyway — that playing every possible legal maneuver and working the rules and getting the big chair was less important to him than what that would have done to the country’s mood/tone.

Yeah, but Al Gore so shut up. ///

Just do not get the Al Gore hatred. He’s not perfect, but to embarrassed by him? That’s really fucking stupid.

He went to the supreme court. If you want to miss the point which was that he didn’t bow out, unless you consider anything less than holding the white house at gunpoint bowing out, then feel free. You can miss the point from now till morning non-stop.

He went to the supreme court. If you want to miss the point which was that he didn’t bow out, unless you consider anything less than holding the white house at gunpoint bowing out, then feel free. You can miss the point from now till morning non-stop.

LOL. I’m not the one who said he “bowed out.”

You, on the other hand, are the one who falsely claimed that he took the case to the supreme court, which he quite clearly did not.

Why are you insisting you’re right and I’m wrong, in the face of you being quite obviously incorrect?

The slideshow represents Assad and his lackeys with playing cards in a deliberate echo of the famous deck of playing cards issued to US troops that featured the pictures of Saddam Hussein and his family and cronies.

There’s the Senate, the constitution provides specifically for a procedure. (at the time it was an even split, and VP-still-standing-Gore would have been the tiebreaking vote, and… it would have been ugly, and R’s would have complained vehemently forever about doing it that way, but… IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ENTIRELY LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL).

He chose not to do that because the result would have been a country even more bitterly divided than it actually is anyway — that playing every possible legal maneuver and working the rules and getting the big chair was less important to him than what that would have done to the country’s mood/tone.

The Senate does not elect the president in case the electoral college cannot do so, the House of Representatives does that. The Senate elects the vice president. So if Florida’s electoral votes had not counted in 2000, Gore would still likely have lost. For him, Bush vs. Gore was the end of the line.

There is a plus side of course. I think that a lot of this Chinese manufacturing has contributed to global peace and was part of the demise of the Cold War. It also provides jobs for a lot of third world people.

Hm, how do I explain this? Yeah, there are a lot of abandoned properties in Detroit. However there are a bunch of JOBS available in Detroit, particularly for skilled automotive professionals. Also a lot of cheap homes in nice neighborhoods on the other side of 8 Mile.

The Senate does not elect the president in case the electoral college cannot do so, the House of Representatives does that. The Senate elects the vice president. So if Florida’s electoral votes had not counted in 2000, Gore would still likely have lost. For him, Bush vs. Gore was the end of the line.

In the Presidential electoral tie-breaker in the House, each State gets 1 vote regardless of how many Reps their State has. In that scenario the GOP crushes the Dems.

In the Presidential electoral tie-breaker in the House, each State gets 1 vote regardless of how many Reps their State has. In that scenario the GOP crushes the Dems.

That’s exactly how it would have unfolded in 2000 had the election gone to the House. Al Gore knew this, so when the Supreme Court ruled unfavorably he decided to concede rather than than playing things out to a conclusion he knew would not favor him.

Last night this guy tweeted the exact same thing, when I brought up 241 US Marines he shrieked YOU CAN’T COMPARE! I said BUT YOU JUST TOLD US TO! Wingnut cognitive dissonance.

I think that to scream at either President over that sort of sneak attack is wrong. They didn’t oversee the security arrangements for the attacked installations and didn’t really have the opportunity to reply to the attacks without risking a quagmire.

Among responses were:You are quoting an NPR [sic] publication?
Seriously?
andBTW, since you’re a bit slow, a conspriracy of scientists is not required when the majority of scientists have all been trained via the same system, which has been taken over, as described by Bill Ayers.

Really, quoting PRI? Are you TRYING to look make yourself non-credible?

I also got called “a preadolescent” because, apparently, no one over 10 would think that science isn’t a massive communist conspiracy, or that 120 million in oil company money going to propaganda mills has brainwashed the conservative base.

I linked [Link: www.loe.org…]
and said that it’s stupid to believe a conspiracy theory that all the world’s scientists are part of a world-wide science conspiracy for socialism.

Among responses were:You are quoting an NPR [sic] publication?
Seriously?
andBTW, since you’re a bit slow, a conspriracy of scientists is not required when the majority of scientists have all been trained via the same system, which has been taken over, as described by Bill Ayers.

Really, quoting PRI? Are you TRYING to look make yourself non-credible?

Apparently the epistimic closure has reached the point where any publication that ISN’T wingnut media or right wing industry-paid-for propaganda mill is automatically wrong. They don’t even have to read the article and find out the sources quoted.

How are we supposed to celebrate “President’s Day”? A few suggestions.
1. Look someone directly in the eye and tell them an bald-faced lie; expect them to believe it and thank you for telling it to them.
2. Have someone else kill someone you don’t like.
3. Get a Mistress. She doesn’t even have to be pretty.
4. Host a lavish meal in your own honor, use someone else’s credit card to pay for it. Tell that person how honored they should be.
5. Ask someone for some spare cash, don’t use it for the reason that you told them you needed it.
6. Don’t let anyone use your name. Everyone has to call you “Mr. (Insert your job title here)”.

MOSCOW — Russian scientists declared Monday that they have found and established the composition of pieces of the meteor that exploded over the Chelyabinsk region last week, injuring hundreds of people and causing millions of dollars worth of damage.

Over the weekend, 53 tiny pieces of dark porous material were collected near Chebarkul Lake, 60 miles west of Chelyabinsk, the regional center, officials said. The biggest of the finds was 7 millimeters long.

The samples were without doubt meteorites, Viktor Grokhovsky, a member of the Russian Academy of Sciences meteorite committee, said early Monday.

Second, Roosevelt advocated shifting government powers away from the three constitutional branches of government and into a federal bureaucracy that was unaccountable to the people and which combined all three functions of government.

The federal bureaucracy is part of the three branches of government, idiots. Jesus. How can they even write a sentence like that without the semantics of it making them pitch forward over the table?

This poor 13 year old boy used to have to get up and eat a shit sandwich every day, because he has Tourette syndrome. He had to drop out of middle school because of the bullying. But he sure shred!
[Link: www.timesunion.com…]

From the article:

Playing guitar, especially as rapidly as Joey does, requires precision — something one might think would be missing from someone with a motor disorder. But the opposite is true: The joy of playing, concentration needed to play and absence of stress apparently block the youth’s Tourette symptoms from surfacing.

I wish him the best, as soon as wifey gets up I gotta show her. She trained for classical guitar for years, I think this kid was born with a guitar in his hands.

On this day in 1885, Mark Twain publishes his famous—and famously controversial—novel The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.

Twain (the pen name of Samuel Clemens) first introduced Huck Finn as the best friend of Tom Sawyer, hero of his tremendously successful novel The Adventures of Tom Sawyer (1876). Though Twain saw Huck’s story as a kind of sequel to his earlier book, the new novel was far more serious, focusing on the institution of slavery and other aspects of life in the antebellum South.

At the book’s heart is the journey of Huck and his friend Jim, a runaway slave, down the Mississippi River on a raft. Jim runs away because he is about to be sold and separated from his wife and children, and Huck goes with him to help him get to Ohio and freedom. Huck narrates the story in his distinctive voice, offering colorful descriptions of the people and places they encounter along the way. The most striking part of the book is its satirical look at racism, religion and other social attitudes of the time. While Jim is strong, brave, generous and wise, many of the white characters are portrayed as violent, stupid or simply selfish, and the naive Huck ends up questioning the hypocritical, unjust nature of society in general.

Even in 1885, two decades after the Emancipation Proclamation and the end of the Civil War, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn landed with a splash. A month after its publication, a Concord, Massachusetts, library banned the book, calling its subject matter “tawdry” and its narrative voice “coarse” and “ignorant.” Other libraries followed suit, beginning a controversy that continued long after Twain’s death in 1910. In the 1950s, the book came under fire from African-American groups for being racist in its portrayal of black characters, despite the fact that it was seen by many as a strong criticism of racism and slavery. As recently as 1998, an Arizona parent sued her school district, claiming that making Twain’s novel required high school reading made already existing racial tensions even worse.

Aside from its controversial nature and its continuing popularity with young readers, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn has been hailed by many serious literary critics as a masterpiece. No less a judge than Ernest Hemingway famously declared that the book marked the beginning of American literature: “There was nothing before. There has been nothing as good since.”

Regardless about how one feels about the Community Reinvestment Act, to say that Obama was actively trying to destroy banks when Chicago UNO (which he was affiliated with back in the 1980’s) sued them under said act is to make an allegation wholly unsupported by the evidence. Richard Rivette is a fool, an ugly-minded, bigoted fool.

BAUCHI, NIGERIA Gunmen attacked a camp for a construction company in rural northern Nigeria, killing a guard and kidnapping seven foreign workers from Britain, Greece, Italy, Lebanon and the Philippines, authorities said Sunday, in the biggest kidnapping yet in a region under attack by Islamic extremists.

The attack Saturday night happened in Jama’are, a town in Bauchi state. There, the gunmen first attacked a local prison, burning two police trucks, Bauchi state police spokesman Hassan Muhammed told The Associated Press.

The gunmen then targeted a workers’ camp for Lebanese construction company Setraco, which is building a road in the area, Muhammed said. The gunmen shot dead a guard at the camp before kidnapping the foreign workers, the spokesman said.

“The gunmen came with explosives, which they used to break some areas,” Muhammed said. He did not elaborate and an AP journalist could not immediately reach the town, which is about 125 miles north of the state capital, Bauchi.

Actor Alec Baldwin allegedly called a black Post photographer a racial epithet, a “crackhead” and a “drug dealer” during a confrontation on an East Village street yesterday morning, prompting police to intervene.

I think it’s funny. FDR was smoker. What can I say. I find the anti-tobacco to be a rather annoying bunch.

I’m not sure what you mean. Smoking’s a terrible habit and anyone who can avoid it is doing a good job. Those who promote it and profit off of it are unethical, in my view, but criminalizing it wouldn’t do much good. Groups like Heritage that spread denialist propaganda minimizing the risks and provided political cover for the industry are shitty and lame. People who angrily glare at smokers as though they’re sinful are stupid an short-sighted.

I’m not sure what you mean. Smoking’s a terrible habit and anyone who can avoid it is doing a good job. Those who promote it and profit off of it are unethical, in my view, but criminalizing it wouldn’t do much good. Groups like Heritage that spread denialist propaganda minimizing the risks and provided political cover for the industry are shitty and lame. People who angrily glare at smokers as though they’re sinful are stupid an short-sighted.

Yep. Although I don’t agree that it was a racial epithet. Calling someone a crackhead can be done to anyone. But you know how liberals get.

I think he said a little more than just ‘crackhead’.

The “30 Rock’’ star grabbed the reporter, Tara Palmeri, by her arm and told her, “I want you to choke to death,” Palmeri told police, for whom she played an audiotape of the conversation.

He then called G.N. Miller — a decorated retired detective with the NYPD’s Organized Crime Control Bureau and a staff photographer for The Post — a “coon, a drug dealer,’’ Miller’s police statement said.

At one point, Miller showed Baldwin ID to prove he’s a retired NYPD cop, which Baldwin dismissed as “fake.”

If he used the word ‘coon’, then he deserves to catch Hell for it. Because that’s not a dog whistle, that’s blatant racism right there.

There’s a recording, apparently, so the truth will hopefully out.

And god I’d hate to be a celebrity. Not in the least bit excusing what Baldwin did (assuming he did it) but goddamn it I’d hate for random people to be yelling questions at me and trying to take my picture. Would drive me fucking insane.

And god I’d hate to be a celebrity. Not in the least bit excusing what Baldwin did but goddamn it I’d hate for random people to be yelling questions at me and trying to take my picture. Would drive me fucking insane.

Now the question becomes. If it’s true will the liberals give him a free pass or will they attempt to destroy him if he were conservative?

And god I’d hate to be a celebrity. Not in the least bit excusing what Baldwin did but goddamn it I’d hate for random people to be yelling questions at me and trying to take my picture. Would drive me fucking insane.

They should pass the Steven Tyler Act like they are in the process of doing in Hawaii.

I think it’s funny. FDR was smoker. What can I say. I find the anti-tobacco people to be a rather annoying bunch.

To me it’s a symptom of what I call “The Great American Neurosis.” Simply put, we’re scared shitless of death. It’s especially frightening for North Americans because we have an innate belief in our power.

A power that death puts the lie to. We can’t do anything about death.

So some of us behave in odd ways. It’s why some get obsessive about exercising, food…and tobacco. They believe that if they can just live right and get rid of anything that might make them ill then they’ll live forever. Of course other people must be forced to live right because the good people will be infected by the bad if the good do nothing.

The reason I think this is because of our monsters. That is those frightening avatars that appear in the popular media.

The first modern monster was Frankenstein’s, a monster created by science when science scared people.

The next popular monsters, in the Victorian era, were Mr. Hyde and Dracula. These were distinctly sexual monsters at a time when sex was something that good people were scared of.

Now our monsters are killers. Saw, Freddy, Jason; all killers. In the Final Destination movies death itself became a sentient murderer.

Our fear of death is mirrored in our monsters and our obsession with things that might kill us.

Now the question becomes. If it’s true will the liberals give him a free pass or will they attempt to destroy him if he were conservative?

“The liberals” probably won’t do anything, since they’re not a coherent group. If he really said racist shit and acted like this much of a jackass, he’ll come in for plenty of criticism from people on the ‘left’. I’m not sure in what way you think ‘the liberals’ would try to ‘destroy’ him. Perhaps with the ritual of Ash K’Ente and finding his phylactery?

“The liberals” probably won’t do anything, since they’re not a coherent group. If he really said racist shit and acted like this much of a jackass, he’ll come in for plenty of criticism from people on the ‘left’. I’m not sure in what way you think ‘the liberals’ would try to ‘destroy’ him. Perhaps with the ritual of Ash K’Ente and finding his phylactery?

He’s not a Litch, Obdi. He’s just a Babbling Liberal Actor, a Level 6 DERPer NPC.

[NY State Senator Malcom] Smith has now explained that he does not think Hollywood should help Baldwin’s career if the fight took place.

“If these allegations are true, then no television network or film studio should hire the veteran actor until he seeks help,” he said. “In today’s modern age it’s a disgrace that people still use remarks that provide hatred to others based on race or origin.”

Smith has also revealed that he will ask NBC to force the actor to take anger management courses. Baldwin has a two-year television deal with Universal.

“The liberals” probably won’t do anything, since they’re not a coherent group. If he really said racist shit and acted like this much of a jackass, he’ll come in for plenty of criticism from people on the ‘left’. I’m not sure in what way you think ‘the liberals’ would try to ‘destroy’ him. Perhaps with the ritual of Ash K’Ente and finding his phylactery?

Here, try this:

“The conservatives” probably won’t do anything, since they’re not a coherent group.

Well, today, a shitbag decided to intrude on our private vacation. He set himself up on the beach where we’re staying, pulled out a telephoto lens, and decided to take pictures of us for hours this morning.

I saw this guy around 10 this morning, and I thought to myself, “No, that guy isn’t taking my picture; I’m just being paranoid. Nobody cares about me enough to camp out on a beach and take that kind of paparazzi picture.”

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I was furious that this piece of shit would spend hours sitting on a beach, taking I don’t even know how many pictures of us, and then have the audacity to tell me that I should just go home if I didn’t like it. Like I was in the wrong for expecting to enjoy some time on the beach without some fucking creep using a telephoto lens to take pictures of me.

While I ate my sandwich (SO GOOD OMG) and finished my Bikini Blonde Lager, I hatched a scheme: Anne and I would render this subhuman pile of shit’s photos worthless (more worthless than they already are, because who gives a fuck about me in a bathing suit) by taking pictures of ourselves and posting them on Twitter.

Psychologists are just our society’s version of witch doctors. They don’t actually help people, they’re a placebo, empty placeholder for helping for situations where we haven’t the slightest clue of any way to help.

Orly Taitz and her minions are laying the groundwork for when SCOTUS ignores them:

Link goes to a “press release” alleging that employees of SCOTUS are withholding documents from the Justices.

Veronica Coffin is on my “TGDN racists” list for linking white supremacist sites. Just thought you would want to know. I don’t know if the site that is linked in that tweet is a WS site but it sure is a whackjob conspiracy site.

Veronica Coffin is on my “TGDN racists” list for linking white supremacist sites. Just thought you would want to know. I don’t know if the site that is linked in that tweet is a WS site but it sure is a whackjob conspiracy site.

Ah, shit. I hope it’s not a supremacist site.

Also, why doesn’t it surprise me that that Twitter person is an open racist? Birthers usually are.

I don’t live in Chicago, but I doubt the police chief said anything like that.

He didn’t say that, what he said was that he thought the 2nd Amendment only protects flintlock smoothbores. He said it somewhat facetiously, though it’s still a FAIL in my eyes (rifles were well established at the time of the Revolution).

I’m not sure you’d feel that way if someone you loved was helped by a great therapist. I agree that there’s bad in that profession, but if you do the homework, there are good people out there doing a job that’s difficult at best, because they want to help. It’s not quackery to have someone to talk to and work through problems if you feel alone, afraid and dysfunctional.

I don’t care/ need to know which restaurant a friend of mine is at for breakfast NOR what they may be ordering! Hell, when I’m out to eat with them I don’t even care what they order
I don’t care/ need to know what moronic thing you have to pass along, that was passed along to you, that was passed along to the person that passed it along to them, that was passed along from ,,,,,,,
I don’t want/ need to “FOLLOW” someone
I don’t want/ need someone to “FOLLOW” ME!
(aren’t those the definition of stalking, btw!)

AND ,, for all the above,,, I get to pay EXTRA for it on my wireless phone bill!!

I don’t care/ need to know which restaurant a friend of mine is at for breakfast NOR what they may be ordering! Hell, when I’m out to eat with them I don’t even care what they order
I don’t care/ need to know what moronic thing you have to pass along, that was passed along to you, that was passed along to the person that passed it along to them, that was passed along from ,,,,,,,
I don’t want/ need to “FOLLOW” someone
I don’t want/ need someone to “FOLLOW” ME!
(aren’t those the definition of stalking, btw!)

AND ,, for all the above,,, I get to pay EXTRA for it on my wireless phone bill!!

JOY!!

LOL, it probably for the best. Given your writing style and the 140 character limit, most of your tweets would consist of maybe three words and 110 commas and periods.

Former Gov. Mark Sanford is up with his first TV ad in his bid for South Carolina’s 1st congressional district, appealing to voters and a “God of second chances.”

“I’ve experienced how none of us go through life without mistakes. But in their wake we can learn a lot about grace, a God of second chances and be the better for it,” Sanford says in the ad.

It’s all part of a campaign to rehabilitate his political career after it seemed to end in scandal. When he was governor, Sanford disappeared for days, with staff first saying he was hiking the Appalachian Trail before Sanford himself acknowledged he had in fact gone to Argentina to visit his mistress.

Sanford was married at the time — and he used taxpayer money to pay for another trip to South America when he visited his lover. He eventually reimbursed the state for the costs.

LOL, it probably for the best. Given your writing style and the 140 character limit, most of your tweets would consist of maybe three words and 110 commas and periods.

Seriously though. I know I typed it with a jesters edge to it, but from what I’ve seen I’d rather read billboards as I drive down the highway instead of checking out what someone tweeted about their baby’s 1st drool or who they hate politically

TEHRAN – Mehr News quotes the controversial American filmmaker as telling another Iranian outlet that he would visit the country, even without an official invitation:

Moore in his latest interview with Mehrnameh magazine said “when the news of my visit to Iran was published a few years ago, the right-wing media in the US began to take a position and published some very critical and hateful articles, they even published faked news about me. So I thought I should postpone visiting Iran to another time.”

Michael Moore continued “they explained to me that my style has many advocates in Iran. So obviously I was happy. I am now waiting for an opportunity to travel to Iran. Even if they do not invite me this time I will go anyway.”

Apparently, no one told Mehr News (or Michael Moore, for that matter) that as an American you can’t just show up in Iran uninvited. The country maintains a very defined process to get a visa to visit, with clear limitations and extra hoops for Americans to jump through.

Either Moore isn’t aware of the rules or thinks they don’t apply to him. Every American I’ve ever met here, though, had to go through the paper-heavy visa process.

Apparently, no one told Mehr News (or Michael Moore, for that matter) that as an American you can’t just show up in Iran uninvited. The country maintains a very defined process to get a visa to visit, with clear limitations and extra hoops for Americans to jump through.

Either Moore isn’t aware of the rules or thinks they don’t apply to him. Every American I’ve ever met here, though, had to go through the paper-heavy visa process.

Apparently, no one told Mehr News (or Michael Moore, for that matter) that as an American you can’t just show up in Iran uninvited. The country maintains a very defined process to get a visa to visit, with clear limitations and extra hoops for Americans to jump through.

Either Moore isn’t aware of the rules or thinks they don’t apply to him. Every American I’ve ever met here, though, had to go through the paper-heavy visa process.

Seriously though. I know I typed it with a jesters edge to it, but from what I’ve seen I’d rather read billboards as I drive down the highway instead of checking out what someone tweeted about their baby’s 1st drool or who they hate politically

I think you’re selling Twitter way short. For all of its frivolous uses, Twitter has become a go-to method for distributing info quickly and efficiently. Its use during the Arab Spring is a prime example of its utility.

Just general moonbattery. He’s been going on about the opressive Obama regime, drones, assasinations, detainment etc, lately. Expressing solidarity with the mullahs in Iran ia just the moonbat way of maintaining radical street credibility.

Just general moonbattery. He’s been going on about the opressive Obama regime, drones, assasinations, detainment etc, lately. Expressing solidarity with the mullahs in Iran ia just the moonbat way of maintaining radical street credibility.

And i’m sure he’ll come back with video of the poorest of the poor children without any food because of the US led sanctions

((he won;t come back with video of how the mullahs of ShortShit live though))

Just general moonbattery. He’s been going on about the opressive Obama regime, drones, assasinations, detainment etc, lately. Expressing solidarity with the mullahs in Iran ia just the moonbat way of maintaining radical street credibility.

Yeah, now that the election has passed he’ll no doubt be going back to his old ways. Which reminds me. You ever notice how outfits like Al Jazeera and Press TV are always pointing out things like “poverty in America” or “racism in America” while totally ignoring poverty, racism and other problems within their own regions? Pravda was notorious for that.

Yeah, now that the election has passed he’ll no doubt be going back to his old ways. Which reminds me. You ever notice how outfits like Al Jazeera and Press TV are always pointing out things like “poverty in America” or “racism in America” while totally ignoring poverty, racism and other problems within their own regions? Pravda was notorious for that.

Thats because, as I stated in 481, THEIR poverty isn’t of their doing nor their governments. It’s because of the west/ Zionist control of THE WORLD!!

Yeah, now that the election has passed he’ll no doubt be going back to his old ways. Which reminds me. You ever notice how outfits like Al Jazeera and Press TV are always pointing out things like “poverty in America” or “racism in America” while totally ignoring poverty, racism and other problems within their own regions? Pravda was notorious for that.

The hostile foreign governments love the propaganda value of lefties babbling on about the American police state, Western colonialism, the evils of capitalism. There’s always a useful idiot on hand to provide the propaganda for them.

The hostile foreign governments love the propaganda value of lefties babbling on about the American police state, Western colonialism, the evils of capitalism. There’s always a useful idiot on hand to provide the propaganda for them.

If you could see the things that I see. People in studios here in the states being interviewed by foreign news orgs about the evils of all you mentioned

Two in particular (don’t know their names because all I hear is their answers, not the questioners) are constantly droning on about how (and I quote) THOUSANDS of young black men are getting shot down in the street by police and “it goes unreported in the US press”

The hostile foreign governments love the propaganda value of lefties babbling on about the American police state, Western colonialism, the evils of capitalism. There’s always a useful idiot on hand to provide the propaganda for them.

On a more sinister level the KGB was once rather active in infiltrating American groups in the late 60s.

If you could see the things that I see. People in studios here in the states being interviewed by foreign news orgs about the evils of all you mentioned

Two in particular (don’t know their names because all I hear is their answers, not the questioners) are constantly droning on about how (and I quote) THOUSANDS of young black men are getting shot down in the street by police and “it goes unreported in the US press”

The liberal goal is to completely disarm and dicate terms to the rest of us, to form a tyrannical non-representative govt. Like Stalin.#tgdn
— Richard Rivette (@VoteRivette) February 18, 2013

And the conservatives want to turn us into a totalitarian, theocracy just like Iran. I guess with decisions like that I don’t want either side to win. Good thing I can actually see for myself which side is truly pushing for what supposedly each side wants.

For all of its frivolous uses, Twitter has become a go-to method for distributing info quickly and efficiently.

I can wait for the noon news. If I miss it, it’s on again at 6 p.m., then again at 11 p.m. then again at ,,,,,

I’m not sure about your complaint about Twitter.. All the things about Twitter applies to the Web also. You can do and read stupid things on every medium. Yes, you can read about what LILO had for lunch on Twitter but you can read stupid things on the web also. It’s a tool that has both good and bad.