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Oh hey Lawrence. Forgot about the double posting rule I won't get banned for it will I. Anyway on topic I don't see me using this controller playing an action/adventure like zelda on this (unless its the hack n slash mini-game they showed at the Tokyo Game Show), explain to me how I can explore hyrule using a remote control (or motion sensitive mouse whatever you call it), you need two hands to play a game like that and BTW Paradox GTA is only on ps2 and xbox. It could have come to nintendo but I think revolution's controller will sway rockstar (the makers of GTA if you didn't know) and many of the other 3rd party publishers away. I can't imagine how difficult developing games to match the controls will be. I also wish nintendo would stop this innovation crap. Innovation has its place in gaming but if you focus to much on it you will limit your gameplay. DS for example only had two great games IMO AWDS and Meteos ( I expect Diamond and Pearl to be great though) the rest of the games were either shortened or what you would call tech demos (I will explain this better if any one comments)this is because nintendo chose innovation over gameplay. Nintendo fans and Die-hards don't get me wrong I love nintendo I own a 64, Cube, pocket, color, advance, sp, and DS but I just don't like the path nintendo has been taking.

Just for laughs nintendo fan
(this comment was not meant to be insulting)

anyway that control stick was an add-on and may not be used in all the games
and even if it is the layout of the controller is very weird

LOL. In between Belly drum I use Metronome, which in turn...
"ShiningClefairy used Splash."

I hate my luck... BTW it's ShiningClefairy not Shiny Clefairy.

Well, when Iwata revealed it, he was holding the remote part and the joystick part, meaning they will probably be packaged together. I have doubts about there being any games at all that use just the remote thing, and not any of the attachments.

I like people like you Shining Clefairy, you support your opinion without getting too angry(some-people get so angry they start throwing death threats at me for thinking differently then them) eventhough the first time you contradicted me you cursed me out.

And to Tendo 128 I know the controller is motion sensitive although I forgot to mention it when I talked about the Zelda mini-game shown at the TGS.
Motion-sensitivity though won't change how I think or how many people think about the controller. You know even with the add on, all the layout and features of the controller are far different than a traditional pad. Game designers(more specifically 3rd party designers) are going to have to change their entire game setup to match the controller's layout. It'll be pretty difficult to play sports or racing games (popular among casuals believe me the only genres people in my school talk about, those and FPS's) companies that make those games like EA to change and are usually to lazy to change anything in their games. Those companies will probably just move to ps3 and 360 which offer a traditional control layout, (as weird shaped as ps3's controller may be) thats a huge chunk of the market swayed away from revolution. Nintendo's experiments will hurt them more than you can imagine

It's quite hard to avoid getting angry in the face of massive ignorance such as "Game designers(more specifically 3rd party designers) are going to have to change their entire game setup to match the controller's layout."

I like people like you Shining Clefairy, you support your opinion without getting too angry(some-people get so angry they start throwing death threats at me for thinking differently then them) eventhough the first time you contradicted me you cursed me out.

And to Tendo 128 I know the controller is motion sensitive although I forgot to mention it when I talked about the Zelda mini-game shown at the TGS.
Motion-sensitivity though won't change how I think or how many people think about the controller. You know even with the add on, all the layout and features of the controller are far different than a traditional pad. Game designers(more specifically 3rd party designers) are going to have to change their entire game setup to match the controller's layout. It'll be pretty difficult to play sports or racing games (popular among casuals believe me the only genres people in my school talk about, those and FPS's) companies that make those games like EA to change and are usually to lazy to change anything in their games. Those companies will probably just move to ps3 and 360 which offer a traditional control layout, (as weird shaped as ps3's controller may be) thats a huge chunk of the market swayed away from revolution. Nintendo's experiments will hurt them more than you can imagine

I like this discussion .

Sheesh... Doing a little research about the topic wouldnt hurt you know>_>! First of all, all of your reasons are flawed. For one, nintendo is making an addon that allows you to play the standard third party games. Second, the controller is perfect for racing and FPSs. For racing games, just tilt your controller to turn;For FPS, use the analog attachment to move, the remote to change view, and pressing A or B to shoot. Also, with this different type of controller.. It means nintendo may get some really exclusive third party games. It really has great potential. Dont say things when it isnt even out yet and you dont know what it could fully do.

I think the main reason people are bashing the controller is because they're reluctant to try out new ideas, when the standard controller has been doing good (for 20 years... time for an upgrade if you ask me).

If people rejected every new idea the way they rejected Nintendo's, we'd still be in the stone age. People need to be more willing.

that controller your talking about isn't that for the virtual console feature on revolution,were you purchase a classic nintendo games for a fee and it downloads to the hard drive I don't think its for the actual games for the console. If it is post a link to an article about it, also Celebii post a link were it says they made a controller for third party developers. Those things I posted are what I think based on observing and studying the controller (basically its my theory on 3rd parties reaction to the controller). By the way why would you want to buy three different controllers just to use the console to its full potential. I would have to buy a third-party controller to play games made by other companies and a classic controller to play nes,snes,and 64 games I download (this is if the innovative controller is included) and this is just for one-player games, what if I want to play with multiple people I would have to buy at least another set of controllers. You see where I'm going right thats a crapload of money I will be selling out for add-ons or new controllers.

You were probably the same people that freaked out when the N64 introduced the anolog stick. And we all know games wouldn't be the same without the analog stick.

Changes are essential to bring players back for something new and intresting. I mean, c'mon, Nintendo started out as a playing card company. If they didn't change and start creating consoles for example, life would suck.

that controller your talking about isn't that for the virtual console feature on revolution,were you purchase an classic nintendo games for a fee and it downloads to the hard drive I don't think its for the actual games for the console. If it is post a link to an article about it.

The Revo doesn't have a hard drive, does it? I think we'll need to download the games onto some sort of card.

As for the classic games, turn the remote thingy sideways for NES, and most likely the shell for SNES and N64.

What do you mean when you say virtual feature?

Originally Posted by Shiny Charizard

I like people like you Shining Clefairy, you support your opinion without getting too angry(some-people get so angry they start throwing death threats at me for thinking differently then them) eventhough the first time you contradicted me you cursed me out.

Yeah, sorry about doing that. I try not to get angry like that because people respect your opinion more when you aren't all **** about it.

People who are asking about the rev's controller will work for ssmb, didend you read what ign thought it might do, here ill quote it"Fighting Games Popular examples: Super Smash Bros. Melee, Soul Calibur III

How it might work: Considering we already know that a Revolution version of Super Smash Bros. is currently under development, it goes without saying that the wizards at Nintendo have already given serious thought to the use of the controller in fighting games. Now imagine this: you've used the pointer to lock in your fighter selection, and you're controlling a classic Nintendo character in a vast 3D landscape using the attached analog stick. However, rather than reverting to the skilled-yet-panicked method of finely tuned button mashing, you're now making precision strikes to your opponents to thanks to pre-defined motions with the pointer.

Jab three times quickly to the right for a Kirby flurry of punches. Hold the pointer for two seconds to the right and then slam it left for a charged Smash slice from Link's trusty sword. While it may seem awkward to imagine, the possibilities for attacks are plenty, and each character would have its own predefined range of movements to master. Now toss in the buttons -- A for jumping, and B for grabbing items. The shoulder buttons above the analog stick could easily raise your shields and grapple your enemies. From there, how exactly you choose to punish them depends on the flick of your wrist. Given the physical, frantic, and furious nature of most fighting games, this is one genre that could be very satisfying to control with a little added motion. Just be careful not to get too carried away and smash your brand-new controller in the process."see. Also i think that this controller is good for pople who are left handed.

Nintendo Revolution

I'm in the middle of the road with this. The idea is brilliant but like with the Nintendo DS, They'll use the Motion Sensor with everygame made by Nintendo. Even if it's not needed. Some game it will work: Metroid 3, The Legend of Zelda, Resident Evil but, some they'll force it to work with the controller. It will help some games, like Luigi's Mansion 2 & Mario Sunshine. It could bring possiblites. More Ninja Games, Duck Hunt Revolution. But, Since I don't no much about it I can't fully post my opinion yet. We'll see what Nintendo has planned.

I'm a little iffy about this..........interesting concept, but it's weird, but I love the fact they are coming with a shell.......also......another thing bugging me is the add-ons, I do not want to continuesly(I spelt it wrong for sure -_- can't think straight) for games, I am not rich =(, but if Nintendo does a bundle, I would buy the bundle.

Another thing bothering me is the motion sensor..........brilliant idea, but I am scared..........I am very agressive when I play ie. I move around a lot, would that distrupt my gaming? And since I am holding the controller with one hand, I have a feeling I would throw it by accident.......gulp.

Very good idea, but I am afraid that I will be a one man wrecking crew =(

I like the sim games, like in the commercial you see an old couple waving it around like a baton (Wind Waker, anyone?), and then the american drummer using 2 controllers (hopefully they'll be cheap) as drumsticks. Taiko drumming?

I watched some things about PS3 games and 360 games, and all they really showcased was either racing games or FPS games. Both are fine, but I don't play those games. I find them tedious and boring. I like puzzles, problem-solving, and strategizing.

i had already heard all about them and seen the video of it and i have one thing to say.
nintendo has released its secret weapon.
my mom said i will finally get exercise while playing XD
i would say the worst new system is gonna be the xbox 360 the ps3 has blue-ray discs the revolution has the controllers. xbox has... uhm halo which ive never played.
EDIT!
check out this i found a pic on the nintendo forums.http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/articl...1026412-000.jpg
if its real its a shell for the controller.

That controller shell thing looks cool! At first I thought the controller looked stupid but knowing Nintendo, they're going to make some kind of unique game style thing that we'll all get used to eventually. So I'm now a yay!