If this is your first visit, be sure to
check out the FAQ by clicking the
link above. You may have to register
before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages,
select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

New myth?

To me anyway...

running touch today and marking 5m back from scrums (U11s in England FYI).

At half time one of the coaches - very politely - informs me that the 5m offside isn't enforced for the attacking side. I thought about it over half time and discussed it with my other TJ and the ref and we weren't sure TBH. So as I went back for the 2nd half just said to the coach ... "OK... but of course if they get shoved off the ball then they'd have to get back OK? " He seemed a bit nonplussed as he clearly hadn't thought of this possibility.

I've checked law 20 having got home now, and I was "right" - 5M offside line DOES exist for both sides as I was marking (and continues to mark the rest of the game as it happened anyway).

Re: New myth?

If one AR/TJ is watching the binding on the far side of the scrum and one is watching the defenders offside and the ref is watching the bind on the near side and the put in - that leaves the third TJ to watch the attacking sides offside - ah we do not have one of those.

But generally the attacking side want space - so they are usually lined up on the diagonal and not a problem.

If they come flat they are more likely to be closed down by the defense or throw a forward pass.

Hence the myth.

Of course if the ref does not have ARs they just have to have extra eyes.

Re: New myth?

I never pull my AR in to watch binding, as far as I'm concerned the can watch it from 5m. I can see it from there when on the line no problem.

I also don't use my AR's as a reason for why I call things. It's my whistle and I take responsibility for everything I pull up. As they say, the buck stops here.

Stop bringing logic to the discussion!

The AR being level with the tunnel is a good one from a management point of view. You make the mark and ask the AR to watch the binding on the props on that side over the comms and the props then behave.

Re: New myth?

I never pull my AR in to watch binding, as far as I'm concerned the can watch it from 5m. I can see it from there when on the line no problem.

I also don't use my AR's as a reason for why I call things. It's my whistle and I take responsibility for everything I pull up. As they say, the buck stops here.

Stop bringing logic to the discussion!

The AR being level with the tunnel is a good one from a management point of view. You make the mark and ask the AR to watch the binding on the props on that side over the comms and the props then behave.

Re: New myth?

Originally Posted by Drift

Stop bringing logic to the discussion!

The AR being level with the tunnel is a good one from a management point of view. You make the mark and ask the AR to watch the binding on the props on that side over the comms and the props then behave.

Re: New myth?

Game 0

CoachA: "Sir, I notice you let the put-in side side creep up beyond the 5 quite a bit"
Ref: "Did they, that's unusual it normally them that wnat the space, so I suppose we tend not to check on them as much as the defenders, there's a lot to look at and it had to enforce everything"

CoachA: "Hey, did you know they don't enforce the put-in side 5m offside at scrum, ref told me the other day"
CoachB: "Hmm, I could use that, maybe..."

CoachB: "Excuse me, TJ, you do know your not supposed to enforce the 5m offside for the put-in side?"
Didds : "Eh??!!"

“We raise the watchword, liberty. We will, we will, we will be free!" George Loveless 1834
Of more worth is one honest man to society and in the sight of God, than all the crowned ruffians that ever lived.Thomas Paine 1776
FREE All of PUSSY RIOT - JAIL PUTIN

Re: New myth?

Originally Posted by Davet

Game 0

CoachA: "Sir, I notice you let the put-in side side creep up beyond the 5 quite a bit"
Ref: "Did they, that's unusual it normally them that wnat the space, so I suppose we tend not to check on them as much as the defenders, there's a lot to look at and it had to enforce everything"

CoachA: "Hey, did you know they don't enforce the put-in side 5m offside at scrum, ref told me the other day"
CoachB: "Hmm, I could use that, maybe..."

CoachB: "Excuse me, TJ, you do know your not supposed to enforce the 5m offside for the put-in side?"
Didds : "Eh??!!"