As far as 1979 goes, isn't Simon and Shuster a subsidiary of Viacom, which owns Paramount?

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Negatory. Simon & Schuster is a subsidiary of CBS Corporation, the corporation which owns CBS Studios, which in turn owns Star Trek and its trademarks.

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Same difference. Usually in-house subsidiaries have a leg up on the competition when it comes to licensing. Which is why I don't find the 1979 remark impressive. An in-house company has to 'screw the pooch' pretty badly to have the license taken away.

Usually in-house subsidiaries have a leg up on the competition when it comes to licensing. Which is why I don't find the 1979 remark impressive. An in-house company has to 'screw the pooch' pretty badly to have the license taken away.

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If the recent Superman litigation is anything to go by, a licensee, even one in-house, still has to pay fair market value for the property.

As far as 1979 goes, isn't Simon and Shuster a subsidiary of Viacom, which owns Paramount?

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Negatory. Simon & Schuster is a subsidiary of CBS Corporation, the corporation which owns CBS Studios, which in turn owns Star Trek and its trademarks.

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Same difference. Usually in-house subsidiaries have a leg up on the competition when it comes to licensing. Which is why I don't find the 1979 remark impressive. An in-house company has to 'screw the pooch' pretty badly to have the license taken away.

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In other words, you're making an assumption with no facts to back it up. Gotcha.

Usually in-house subsidiaries have a leg up on the competition when it comes to licensing. Which is why I don't find the 1979 remark impressive. An in-house company has to 'screw the pooch' pretty badly to have the license taken away.

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If the recent Superman litigation is anything to go by, a licensee, even one in-house, still has to pay fair market value for the property.

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Of course. But then the profits and control of said property also stay in house.

Negatory. Simon & Schuster is a subsidiary of CBS Corporation, the corporation which owns CBS Studios, which in turn owns Star Trek and its trademarks.

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Same difference. Usually in-house subsidiaries have a leg up on the competition when it comes to licensing. Which is why I don't find the 1979 remark impressive. An in-house company has to 'screw the pooch' pretty badly to have the license taken away.

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In other words, you're making an assumption with no facts to back it up. Gotcha.

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Do a little research from time to time.

BillJ - New Frontier: Treason is being reprinted in mmpb.

Just thought I'd make sure you were aware of that.

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Just saw it on TrekMovie. Which was all I was asking for to begin with. Though I could have sworn one poster mentioning the great things about Trades was that they weren't going to be taking up MMPB slots.

Just saw it on TrekMovie. Which was all I was asking for to begin with. Though I could have sworn one poster mentioning the great things about Trades was that they weren't going to be taking up MMPB slots.

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Fair point, and I'd actually prefer that they weren't reprinted and we got more books instead. But that's not too big a deal (I can wait another month), and this at least solves your problem.

In other words, you're making an assumption with no facts to back it up. Gotcha.

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Do a little research from time to time.

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It is the obligation of the person making the claim to provide research to support his claims, not the obligation of the person to whom he is making his claim.

Show me some actual evidence that in-house licensees have an unfair advantage over other potential licensees and that an in-house licensee has to really mess things up to lose their license -- and that, by implication, in-house licensees do not gain and then keep the license by planning and producing higher-quality work in comparison to other potential licensees -- and I'll buy what you're selling.

Saw the cover for The Romulan War. I have not read all of the ENT novels, but I plan to. I was just wondering if other fans feel the same way I do:

Since the Romulan War in historical terms is one of the oldest events in the trek universe, (introduced/mentioned near the beginning of TOS's 1st season and further trek history has tied the establishment of the UFP as being very close to when the conflict with the Romulans would have unfolded....

Is there anyone else out there who is a little concerned the coming book The Romulan War may not be enough? I guess I am just voicing a concern that the entire conflict is going to be explored (limited?) in just one book. Its something that is concrete in Trek history and I hope the coming novel is merely a set up for a good series of books. Just seems to me the Romulan War should be more than just one book. I hope that is the case.

Saw the cover for The Romulan War. I have not read all of the ENT novels, but I plan to. I was just wondering if other fans feel the same way I do:

Since the Romulan War in historical terms is one of the oldest events in the trek universe, (introduced/mentioned near the beginning of TOS's 1st season and further trek history has tied the establishment of the UFP as being very close to when the conflict with the Romulans would have unfolded....

Is there anyone else out there who is a little concerned the coming book The Romulan War may not be enough? I guess I am just voicing a concern that the entire conflict is going to be explored (limited?) in just one book. Its something that is concrete in Trek history and I hope the coming novel is merely a set up for a good series of books. Just seems to me the Romulan War should be more than just one book. I hope that is the case.

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It's getting more than one book. This one is just being marketed under the single title.

I guess I am just voicing a concern that the entire conflict is going to be explored (limited?) in just one book. Its something that is concrete in Trek history and I hope the coming novel is merely a set up for a good series of books. Just seems to me the Romulan War should be more than just one book. I hope that is the case.

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I'd be perfectly happy with one book. As far as I'm concerned, there aren't a lot of major unanswered questions about that war. We know what we need to know about it. If we want the Enterprise books to be bogged down in continuity for the sake of continuity, there are enough unanswered questions from Enterprise itself.

In other words, you're making an assumption with no facts to back it up. Gotcha.

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Do a little research from time to time.

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It is the obligation of the person making the claim to provide research to support his claims, not the obligation of the person to whom he is making his claim.

Show me some actual evidence that in-house licensees have an unfair advantage over other potential licensees and that an in-house licensee has to really mess things up to lose their license -- and that, by implication, in-house licensees do not gain and then keep the license by planning and producing higher-quality work in comparison to other potential licensees -- and I'll buy what you're selling.

Otherwise, you are talking out of your ass.

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Investigate the relationship between the Atlanta Braves and WTBS which were both owned by Ted Turner. Or the Chicago Cubs and WGN which were both owned by Tribune. Other stations were locked out of the right to broadcast games for decades because of the way ownership worked.

Yeah, TBS paid X amount of dollars every year to broadcast games when no actual cash exchanged hands and the Braves controlled the content being delivered by TBS.

Is there anyone else out there who is a little concerned the coming book The Romulan War may not be enough? I guess I am just voicing a concern that the entire conflict is going to be explored (limited?) in just one book. Its something that is concrete in Trek history and I hope the coming novel is merely a set up for a good series of books. Just seems to me the Romulan War should be more than just one book. I hope that is the case.

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It was originally announced as a MMPB trilogy, and then as a single trade. I'm sure this one volume - in some places subtitled "Under the Raptor's Wing"? - won't attempt to tell the entire war in one volume, but it will supposedly be a very chunky book. It will depend on how well it sells, which is presumably also why there are no 2010 ENT novels announced yet.

In any case, wasn't this historical event also known as "The Romulan Wars" in fanon?

Saw the cover for The Romulan War...
Is there anyone else out there who is a little concerned the coming book The Romulan War may not be enough? I guess I am just voicing a concern that the entire conflict is going to be explored (limited?) in just one book. Its something that is concrete in Trek history and I hope the coming novel is merely a set up for a good series of books. Just seems to me the Romulan War should be more than just one book. I hope that is the case.

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The cover you've seen is not final. The actual title is Under the Raptor's Wing -- I'm not sure if the phrase The Romulan War is even on the final cover -- and it's just the first part of the story of the Earth-Romulan War.

It was originally announced as a MMPB trilogy, and then as a single trade. I'm sure this one volume - in some places subtitled "Under the Raptor's Wing"? - won't attempt to tell the entire war in one volume, but it will supposedly be a very chunky book.

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Margaret mentioned a page count at Shore Leave, and I don't remember the exact figure, but it was pretty hefty.

It will depend on how well it sells, which is presumably also why there are no 2010 ENT novels announced yet.

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I think that's because 2010 is being devoted mainly to standalone TOS and Abramsverse books to go after the potential new audience created by the movie, with the back third of the year beind devoted to The Typhon Pact.

In any case, wasn't this historical event also known as "The Romulan Wars" in fanon?

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I'm not familiar with that. I've always heard it referred to as the Earth-Romulan War. Are you maybe thinking of the Eugenics Wars?

I guess I am just voicing a concern that the entire conflict is going to be explored (limited?) in just one book. Its something that is concrete in Trek history and I hope the coming novel is merely a set up for a good series of books. Just seems to me the Romulan War should be more than just one book. I hope that is the case.

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I'd be perfectly happy with one book. As far as I'm concerned, there aren't a lot of major unanswered questions about that war. We know what we need to know about it. If we want the Enterprise books to be bogged down in continuity for the sake of continuity, there are enough unanswered questions from Enterprise itself.

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Oh, I totally agree that there are a lot of unanswered questions from the TV show, but I think The Romulan War is such a huge historical section of trek history that it deserves a good amount of attention.

I hope the book does well, and as Christopher and Ian have speculated, I hope there are others to follow.

Saw the cover for The Romulan War...
Is there anyone else out there who is a little concerned the coming book The Romulan War may not be enough? I guess I am just voicing a concern that the entire conflict is going to be explored (limited?) in just one book. Its something that is concrete in Trek history and I hope the coming novel is merely a set up for a good series of books. Just seems to me the Romulan War should be more than just one book. I hope that is the case.

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The cover you've seen is not final. The actual title is Under the Raptor's Wing -- I'm not sure if the phrase The Romulan War is even on the final cover -- and it's just the first part of the story of the Earth-Romulan War.