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My brother is turning 21 on January 7th and he wants to buy my Glock 19 for his birthday. We have both been reading www.packing.org and I never realized how fucking strict the NYC gun laws are...especially when they are compared to Florida.

Anyway back to my questions...I see that there are two fees (totaling ~$354) that need to be paid immediately for your permit.

Approximate cost

$255.00
Made payable to the New York City Police Department, must be paid by certified check or money order.

$99.00
Made payable to the NYS Division of Criminal Justice Services, must be paid ONLY by U.S. Postal money order or a bank drawn money order.

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The license he would need is this one:

(a) Premises License -- Residence or Business.This is a restricted handgun license, issued for a specific business or residence location. The handgun shall be safeguarded at the specific address indicated on the license. This license permits the transporting of an unloaded handgun directly to and from an authorized small arms range/shooting club, secured unloaded in a locked container. Ammunition shall be carried separately.

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Since he won't need a concealed carry license, this gun will be used specifically for the range and home defense.

Now that is out of the way I want to ask did I get most of this right. Am I missing anything? If so please let me know I am really open to advice at this point.

Say he does buy my gun, in the Residence License paragraph it reads:

This license permits the transporting of an unloaded handgun directly to and from an authorized small arms range/shooting club, secured unloaded in a locked container. Ammunition shall be carried separately.

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Does this mean he will need to take a taxi to and from the range? I highly doubt he would be able to bring the firearm in the subway and it isn't specified on the www.packing.org website. I also told him to call his local precinct to ask an officer if he had any questions that needed to be clarified.

I am on Long Island not quite as bad as NYC but pretty close, the subway thing yeah call the precinct and hope who ever he speaks with knows what they're talking about. It'll probably be about 6 months before all his paperwork goes through. He probably wouldnt be able to get a CCW even if he wanted to near impossible in NYC unless you know someone. Its a pain in the ass here on Long Island. My best advice is try to move its what I'm in the process of trying to do. NYC and LI politicans have fucked the whole state of NY up.

I'm the brother purchasing the gun, just trying to get some more answers. Thanks TL1000 for the info, I know the laws are completely different between NYS and NYC. To me it sounds like you have to be very well connected to obtain a CCW permit in NYC (which pisses me off cause I met a cool ass NYPD detective and a FBI agent and I should have asked them). It sounds like they take your $354 and you don't hear back. It's ridiculous to pay that insane fee and not even be guaranteed an interview. I would really like to buy my brothers gun but it seems the liberals in NYC have once again made it impossible to exercise your rights. Any more info would be greatly appreciated. I know someone on here legally owns a handgun in NYC.

I'm the brother purchasing the gun, just trying to get some more answers. Thanks TL1000 for the info, I know the laws are completely different between NYS and NYC. To me it sounds like you have to be very well connected to obtain a CCW permit in NYC (which pisses me off cause I met a cool ass NYPD detective and a FBI agent and I should have asked them). It sounds like they take your $354 and you don't hear back. It's ridiculous to pay that insane fee and not even be guaranteed an interview. I would really like to buy my brothers gun but it seems the liberals in NYC have once again made it impossible to exercise your rights. Any more info would be greatly appreciated. I know someone on here legally owns a handgun in NYC.

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I've seen a couple posts from someone too in NYC hopfully he'll chime in soon, I know NYC and LI laws are somewhat similar, PITA in either place and way overpriced, upstate is so much easier to get one.

Its fucked up gotta jump through so many hoops to get one yet I can just drive on into brooklyn and have an illegal gun in 20 minutes.

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I know it's ridiculous. What they are doing is promoting illegal gun sales by making it impossible for someone to responsibly/legally own a gun. I found an article online (can't find the link now) of a guy going through the process of getting a CCW in NYC (I think it was slightly out of date but I don't think much has changed). He said it took 5 months to get a callback for an interview and thetn an addl. 3 months after the interview to get his permit. They asked him at the interview if he would be taking his handgun to the range every weekend. Which was a trick question since you are only allowed (with a premises license) to transport your gun to a range twice a month! It's so damn ridiculous. He ended up getting his permit but again the process seemed like a fulltime job. If Vermont wasn't so boring I'd move there, they seem to know whats going on.

I know it's ridiculous. What they are doing is promoting illegal gun sales by making it impossible for someone to responsibly/legally own a gun. I found an article online (can't find the link now) of a guy going through the process of getting a CCW in NYC (I think it was slightly out of date but I don't think much has changed). He said it took 5 months to get a callback for an interview and thetn an addl. 3 months after the interview to get his permit. They asked him at the interview if he would be taking his handgun to the range every weekend. Which was a trick question since you are only allowed (with a premises license) to transport your gun to a range twice a month! It's so damn ridiculous. He ended up getting his permit but again the process seemed like a fulltime job. If Vermont wasn't so boring I'd move there, they seem to know whats going on.

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Texas is where I'm mostly looking now, warm weather quite a few jobs although pay isn't as good as here in NY but in TX you can buy a nice house with a bit of land pretty cheap, for some of the housing prices down there I couldnt even buy a house here in New Cassel or Wyandanch for anywhere close to that.

I know it's ridiculous. What they are doing is promoting illegal gun sales by making it impossible for someone to responsibly/legally own a gun. I found an article online (can't find the link now) of a guy going through the process of getting a CCW in NYC (I think it was slightly out of date but I don't think much has changed). He said it took 5 months to get a callback for an interview and thetn an addl. 3 months after the interview to get his permit. They asked him at the interview if he would be taking his handgun to the range every weekend. Which was a trick question since you are only allowed (with a premises license) to transport your gun to a range twice a month! It's so damn ridiculous. He ended up getting his permit but again the process seemed like a fulltime job. If Vermont wasn't so boring I'd move there, they seem to know whats going on.