Is this Lotus, or Renault? I wish everyone could refrain from adding sponsor and engine supplier names to the chassis name. We have Renault and Lotus next year, and yet they can be referred to as Lotus Renault GP and Team Lotus Renault… Chassis name only please!

Regardless of who everyone feels is more entitled to the name Lotus (we all know that neither team is a direct continuation of the original Team Lotus), for the sake of not confusing ourselves any more than we need to, I think the basic team names should be used without any title sponsor or engine supplier names tagged on. No one refers to Williams as Williams-Cosworth in normal coloquial speak, and no one refers to McLaren as Vodafone McLaren Mercedes. I will still refer to Lotus Renault GP as Renault (as their chassis is called) and Team Lotus Renault as Lotus (as their chassis is called). I’m still not entirely clear which team is referenced in the original post here, but I assume it to be the Enstone based The-artist-formerly-known-as-Renault-Benneton-Toleman-etc…

Im sticking with Fernandes Lotus, just as he seems marginally less of a corporate alien b******. Nicking brand identity for eventual long term profit/prestige he may be, but by god he’s a nicer bloke than that total pillok Bahar.

I really hope someone from the UK Advertising Standards Authority sees this car launch and then shoots them down for illegal tobacco advertising. That would teach Bahar not to steal a different team’s history.

And as punishment they should be forced to run their cars in neon pink lol.

As much as I dont like the way Group Lotus has acted, I can’t not like the team because essentially it is exactly the same as the Renault team I fully supported this year, it is the same blokes back at Enstone…so I guess I will be supporting two Lotus teams next year

@Silverkeg i completely agree, i loved Renault this year ,they were awesome but i hate the way Proton/Group Lotus have acted against Team Lotus (real[er] Lotus) but its the same team and i like Kubica so….. But i like Team Lotus and Kovalaianen… as Harry Hill would say Guess theres only one way to find out…. :D