Haven’t got the arse at all! But why highlight one issue in the email and ignore the other points!

Who are these people who don’t understand how credit companies work that you are referring to? Maybe members asking the questions are the self-employed or now unemployed and were approaching their Club looking for understanding or support?

Money List Winner

By intimating that it will be frowned upon by fellow members and all other Clubs in the County! To me that is possibly cultivating a them and us mentality both inside and outside the membership.
Plus possibly frightening some with the credit rating comment.
Surely this should of been kept in house by them, I’m in the same County and hope our Club and members do right by us and not how it looks to other Clubs.

Fair point Paul, I agree that the wording is at best clumsy in that area. The reference to other members is probably based on history where a club has tried to help a member, and I've seen this big time in the past, but is their issue not the audience's. The reference to other clubs is just daft. The reference to credit ratings etc is reality.
Not a lot of veiled though 🤔

Money List Winner

Fair point Paul, I agree that the wording is at best clumsy in that area. The reference to other members is probably based on history where a club has tried to help a member, and I've seen this big time in the past, but is their issue not the audience's. The reference to other clubs is just daft. The reference to credit ratings etc is reality.
Not a lot of veiled though 🤔

Ryder Cup Winner

Haven’t got the arse at all! But why highlight one issue in the email and ignore the other points!

Who are these people who don’t understand how credit companies work that you are referring to? Maybe members asking the questions are the self-employed or now unemployed and were approaching their Club looking for understanding or support?

i was talking about the numptys at the clubs i know up here, i was only agreeing with DM about one part wasn't in any way relating to you your post or any others apart from his

and the company i was refering to is Premium Credit, heard of a few examples where mistakes were made but they still wanted their money. one guy didn't recieve a letter from them telling him they were auto renewing and one guy was ill and could no longer play after 2 months of taking the agreement

Major Champion

Subs alone don’t cover all the costs to run a golf club, the bar, restaurant, social functions and societies all contribute towards the income the club requires to not only operate but also invest in itself, so, we have calculated that if we are still closed come the end of our financial year, being end of July, we will now incur a loss of around £180k, and that’s with strangling every operating cost possible at this time.

So anyone wanting a refund or anything back will simply be twisting the knife more in what are unprecedented circumstances, as the current subs and reserves are all that are keeping ours and most clubs afloat at the minute.

The longer this lockdown goes on, is another week or month that no revenue is taken by the club, and as such the subs paid and reserves (cash in bank) are diluted, and more and more your club becomes vulnerable.

You can catch up playing extra rounds that you feel you’ve lost during this period over time, but if your club goes, it’s gone!

If you like your club & course, then support it, or it could disappear!

Hall of Famer

Subs alone don’t cover all the costs to run a golf club, the bar, restaurant, social functions and societies all contribute towards the income the club requires to not only operate but also invest in itself, so, we have calculated that if we are still closed come the end of our financial year, being end of July, we will now incur a loss of around £180k, and that’s with strangling every operating cost possible at this time.

So anyone wanting a refund or anything back will simply be twisting the knife more in what are unprecedented circumstances, as the current subs and reserves are all that are keeping ours and most clubs afloat at the minute.

The longer this lockdown goes on, is another week or month that no revenue is taken by the club, and as such the subs paid and reserves (cash in bank) are diluted, and more and more your club becomes vulnerable.

You can catch up playing extra rounds that you feel you’ve lost during this period over time, but if your club goes, it’s gone!

If you like your club & course, then support it, or it could disappear!

Agree with what you say. We have a theatre company putting on Macbeth in August which is being staged at the course and was going to be a big revenue stream for the year and that is in doubt. We also have a number of societies we rely on annually and of course they won't be paying up front

Hacker

I've not read most of this thread but concur with many I have read. Our clubs need our support right now more than ever, I know our club finances are fragile to say the least, this could be disastrous if it continues. If personal circumstances allow, keep paying those subs . Hopefully we'll all have courses to play on at the end of it, probably in superb condition.

Journeyman Pro

Email from club saying Everything is fine .
Greenkeepers working ,all staff being paid 80% that can be claimed back from treasury.
We qualify for the business rate holiday .
So all sounds good.
That’s nice to know especially the staff being looked after.
They make the club not just the course.

Basic message is that if lockdown gets more intense and greenstaff are restricted even further to the amount of work they can do things are going to transform very quickly and the golf courses could end up resembling more of a meadow than a golf course. The key thing then is (which I didn't realise) you can't just chop the grass back down to normal length once the restrictions are lifted. It has to be done in stages so you don't kill the grass.

Major Champion

Email from our Head Greenkeeper, he’s pleased with everything they’ve managed to catch up on. He goes on to say; all debris has been removed, excellent definition is being formed, striped fairways, tonnes of sand into our greens, he’s says we’re all in for a real treat when we return 😎🏌️⛳️

Our club is giving 2 free months for every month the course is closed due to COVID 19. They were absolutely desperate for people to sign up so they have offered this amazing deal as long as we commit to signing up for the 2020-21 season

Hall of Famer

Seen a few clubs online are offering an extension to the membership year (so renewal may go from March-May dependant on the length of the layoff). Nothing official from my club yet but we've literally only just had renewals so perhaps have a bit of time to consider our options

Journeyman Pro

Our club is giving 2 free months for every month the course is closed due to COVID 19. They were absolutely desperate for people to sign up so they have offered this amazing deal as long as we commit to signing up for the 2020-21 season