I think it really comes down to explaining why we really separate genders for locker rooms.

For example, I don't feel uncomfortable in a changing room with a lesbian but I would feel uncomfortable in a changing room with a gay man. We also had a transgendered m to f person at my last work, and I felt really uncomfortable seeing them in the ladies bathroom. I really can't figure out why I feel that way though. If it was an issue of sexual attraction, I wouldn't mind the gay man or be fine with the lesbian woman. If it was an issue with feeling threatened, then it should matter how they are behaving. If it was just someone different than me, I should feel similarly weird with old women, women amputees, really obese women, women of different races, etc. but I don't. Then again, probably at some point white women did feel similarly uncomfortable with black women sharing their facilities, so is it just a matter of it being unusual and so taboo? I also would probably not care if they were post-surgery, even though they are the same exact person, and that doesn't make sense either.

Actually while we're on the subject we should have a separate lockerroom for old people. Nobody wants to see you sit in the LR for 30 min with your old junk swinging in the wind while you converse with someone else equally as wrinkled.

Actually while we're on the subject we should have a separate lockerroom for old people. Nobody wants to see you sit in the LR for 30 min with your old junk swinging in the wind while you converse with someone else equally as wrinkled.

Actually while we're on the subject we should have a separate lockerroom for old people. Nobody wants to see you sit in the LR for 30 min with your old junk swinging in the wind while you converse with someone else equally as wrinkled.

Why? I'd care if the he/she was chasing her around, just changing, meh dont care. Sit her down and explain it to her if she had questions and leave it at that. Making a big deal out of this crap instead of doing what a parent should and just explaining it (especially to a 17 year old) is just retarded. Not a big enough deal for me to freak out about, its a body part, big whoop.

I'm sorry that some of you didn't get an education and don't know that thinking of gender or sex like they are binary and determined solely by genetics is what ignoramouses believe. Someone should have told you there is more to development than your karyotype, you are stuck in bufoonery for now .

Personally i dont care. She wasnt hitting on anyone, and from the article it sounds like she was just changing, not "dangling it in people's faces". I love how people automatically assume that if someone is LGBT they are an out of control rapist who is preying on them and their kids. FFS, IT'S A PENIS. Your kid is going to see one at some point in their life, it's better that they are able to be natural and mature about it rather than kicking up a stink about it and acting like it's such a terrible thing.

Growing up i practically lived at the local swimming baths, and because the changing cubicles there were often full or nasty, most of us changed in the main part of the locker room. I saw naked old ladies by the hundred in my childhood. For all we knew, some of them might have been lesbians, and then they're just as much of a "risk" as a transgender individual who is attracted to women.

Basically my opinion is this: being transgender doesnt automatically mean that they are going to be a sexual danger (or any kind of danger) to your kids. If they acted in an inappropriate way, that's a different matter, but from the article it seems they did not. So what it basically comes down to is people not being able to be mature about the Human body, which is just sad.

Im just saying, the way people are reacting is as if this is somehow dangerous to children, having someone who is transgendered in the locker room. Wasnt pointing at any one person, just what the general opinion seems to be.

sorry Cutt
I don't agree. this woman knows she is different, knows people will say things, knows people will point and stare, knows people will say things about their kids seeing her, and she still does it??? attention

Why do it in the first place? She could cover up and avoid the story. /shrug

Look at it another way.... you're a chick (obv). Now someone is going to tell you that because of the way your body looks you have to go change in the men's locker room. Now imagine it, having to shower, change etc in front of a room full of men. How would that feel for you? Because THAT's how she would likely feel if she were forced to go change in the men's lockers just because the body is male, even though the mind is not. She wasnt trying to get attention, she was just changing after her swim/ workout/ whatever. Not going out of her way to show anything off (why would she, from what i know transgender women arent exactly proud of their penises), just minding her own business and getting changed.

Look at it another way.... you're a chick (obv). Now someone is going to tell you that because of the way your body looks you have to go change in the men's locker room. Now imagine it, having to shower, change etc in front of a room full of men. How would that feel for you? Because THAT's how she would likely feel if she were forced to go change in the men's lockers just because the body is male, even though the mind is not. She wasnt trying to get attention, she was just changing after her swim/ workout/ whatever. Not going out of her way to show anything off (why would she, from what i know transgender women arent exactly proud of their penises), just minding her own business and getting changed.

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It is the freak. It is the one that should be uncomfortable. Not everyone else!

Look at it another way.... you're a chick (obv). Now someone is going to tell you that because of the way your body looks you have to go change in the men's locker room. Now imagine it, having to shower, change etc in front of a room full of men. How would that feel for you? Because THAT's how she would likely feel if she were forced to go change in the men's lockers just because the body is male, even though the mind is not. She wasnt trying to get attention, she was just changing after her swim/ workout/ whatever. Not going out of her way to show anything off (why would she, from what i know transgender women arent exactly proud of their penises), just minding her own business and getting changed.

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It is the freak. It is the one that should be uncomfortable. Not everyone else!

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Anyone who is uncomfortable at the sight of the Human body need to grow the **** up.

Look at it another way.... you're a chick (obv). Now someone is going to tell you that because of the way your body looks you have to go change in the men's locker room. Now imagine it, having to shower, change etc in front of a room full of men. How would that feel for you? Because THAT's how she would likely feel if she were forced to go change in the men's lockers just because the body is male, even though the mind is not. She wasnt trying to get attention, she was just changing after her swim/ workout/ whatever. Not going out of her way to show anything off (why would she, from what i know transgender women arent exactly proud of their penises), just minding her own business and getting changed.

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It is the freak. It is the one that should be uncomfortable. Not everyone else!

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Anyone who is uncomfortable at the sight of the Human body need to grow the **** up.

Look at it another way.... you're a chick (obv). Now someone is going to tell you that because of the way your body looks you have to go change in the men's locker room. Now imagine it, having to shower, change etc in front of a room full of men. How would that feel for you? Because THAT's how she would likely feel if she were forced to go change in the men's lockers just because the body is male, even though the mind is not. She wasnt trying to get attention, she was just changing after her swim/ workout/ whatever. Not going out of her way to show anything off (why would she, from what i know transgender women arent exactly proud of their penises), just minding her own business and getting changed.

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It is the freak. It is the one that should be uncomfortable. Not everyone else!

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Anyone who is uncomfortable at the sight of the Human body need to grow the **** up.

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Be sure you tell the little girls that are exposed to this freako that you think they should grow up...

It is the freak. It is the one that should be uncomfortable. Not everyone else!

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Anyone who is uncomfortable at the sight of the Human body need to grow the **** up.

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Be sure you tell the little girls that are exposed to this freako that you think they should grow up...

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Please tell me, exactly how is seeing a naked penis going to damage them? If their parents actually act like adults and explain that there is nothing wrong with it as long as the person isnt doing anything inappropriate, then no harm is done. The girls who saw it will grow up well-adjusted and not ignorant idiots who feel the need to call everyone slightly different from them "freaks".

Slightly different? Mutilating your body because of a mental disorder is slightly different?

So we're clear, you're okay with grown men exposing themselves to little girls? No wonder you're on medication.

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Was she shoving her penis in the faces of children? NO. She was just changing her clothes.

By using emotive phrases like "exposing themselves" (which automatically brings to mind creepy old men flashing innocent children in the park or something) you're making it into something FAR seedier than what it was. If she wasnt acting inappropriately, there is NO REASON why she shouldnt be there.

Anyone who is uncomfortable at the sight of the Human body need to grow the **** up.

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Be sure you tell the little girls that are exposed to this freako that you think they should grow up...

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Please tell me, exactly how is seeing a naked penis going to damage them? If their parents actually act like adults and explain that there is nothing wrong with it as long as the person isnt doing anything inappropriate, then no harm is done. The girls who saw it will grow up well-adjusted and not ignorant idiots who feel the need to call everyone slightly different from them "freaks".

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a man that thinks he is a woman is definitely a little more than slightly different

kind of like a white guy that thinks he is black

first and foremost -- he is wrong -- he is not a woman -- facts are facts and if you have a penis - you are a man

Slightly different? Mutilating your body because of a mental disorder is slightly different?

So we're clear, you're okay with grown men exposing themselves to little girls? No wonder you're on medication.

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Was she shoving her penis in the faces of children? NO. She was just changing her clothes.

By using emotive phrases like "exposing themselves" (which automatically brings to mind creepy old men flashing innocent children in the park or something) you're making it into something FAR seedier than what it was. If she wasnt acting inappropriately, there is NO REASON why she shouldnt be there.

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you seem to be completely ok with people showing their genitals to the opposite sex

Slightly different? Mutilating your body because of a mental disorder is slightly different?

So we're clear, you're okay with grown men exposing themselves to little girls? No wonder you're on medication.

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Was she shoving her penis in the faces of children? NO. She was just changing her clothes.

By using emotive phrases like "exposing themselves" (which automatically brings to mind creepy old men flashing innocent children in the park or something) you're making it into something FAR seedier than what it was. If she wasnt acting inappropriately, there is NO REASON why she shouldnt be there.

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Didn't answer my question. How you interpret the phrase is irrelevant. Are you okay with grown men exposing themselves to little girls?