[Ret] Fix my DPS!

Fix my DPS!

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We're atm stuck at Windlord Mel'jarak normal, usually hitting the enrage timer, and i was wondering whats best between Lights hammer and Holy prism for that fight ?
And if there is any tips, would appreciate it .

Also one thing to mention, Our hunter keeps topping the dps with a noticeable difference in DPS *3k~7k, not on this fight ofcourse but most of the other fights * usually 1 target fights

I don't want to post the hunter's armory so it doesn't get " awkward " as u said :P but he has 488ilvl
* Edit: One question to add, when i'm using SW talent, How often should i spam HoW ? Whenever it's out of CD ? Is there any ability i should ignore when i have AW on? Because i'm very confused on that point ( i'm usually using DP )
Thank you in advance!

Last edited by Fhi; 2012-11-10 at 04:37 PM.
Reason: Added working armory link

First off ill start with your gear.
Enchants:
Weapon - Get Danceing steel weapon enchant.
Bracers - Get str enchant
Reforgeing:
I can see that you are missing some Exp and are over capped in hit, either reforge or get exp/haste gem in belt.

As for talents, i was using Lights hammer, gave me a better benefit than Holy prism did.
Also i was using Holy Avenger for the adds in first phase - Builder > Divine storm and you will do around 350k on pull as trinkets will be up at start. I could do this 2 times before we switched to the boss, remember to tank the boss on top of adds for more dps on him.
As for holy Avenger, 3rd time this is available should be around when adds are dead and your raid use bloodlust on boss.

Other than that, maybe you wna try out Clcret for if you are not 100% comfortable with your rotation/priority.
Further more, you may want to start using Worldoflogs, then you can compare yourself to other ret paladins.

Your reforging looks to be a bit wonky. Now, while you should be simming your own gear for perfect stat weights, Icy-veins, MMO-C, and EJ all have mastery valued over crit, with EJ giving them both the same stat weight but mastery slightly more dps.

-If you choose to go the mastery>crit route, you should change your neck to hit->mastery instead of crit, chest crit->mastery.

-A few of your enchants are hit, and a few gems are hit, but you reforge out of hit on your neck and back. Generally you should try to get those caps on your gear because what you can reforge to is limited (cant reforge to haste if its already on the item etc), where as you can stack haste all day (or str) with your gems. Take that as a general rule of thumb though, each gearset is different.

-According to your armory you are well below the expertise cap, and if thats the case you should hit that asap, your chest could help there, and switching a few of your exp->hits will help, (ofc reforge to get hit capped again). You are using the PvP trink in your armory, so if you have lessons of darkmaster like you say in your post, disregard this point.

-As for your logs, im not a WoL expert, and i cant really see anything blatantly wrong there. Hopefully someone else can help you with.

Hopefully i helped somewhat, and if im completely offbase on something, feel free to ignore it

Your reforging looks to be a bit wonky. Now, while you should be simming your own gear for perfect stat weights, Icy-veins, MMO-C, and EJ all have mastery valued over crit, with EJ giving them both the same stat weight but mastery slightly more dps.

Yeah I was simming crit>mastery but I was reforged mastery at the time, and as far as my expertise I logged out in my pvp trinket over lessons.

Some of your advice is slightly off. You absolutely should be matching blue sockets with purple or green +hit gems. Crit is better than mastery for many people at intermediate gear levels. Quite often to maximize optimization you reforge into and out of a stat.

However, the only addon i use for ratings and such is ReforgeLite, nifty little addon that lets you optimize your gear, you can put in your own ratings and such. It works abit like AskMrrobot, and both the addon and MrRobot, ussually comes up with the same result for my reforgeing.
Also crit can in some cases be better than mastery, however my stats weights have allways been in favor of mastery,
and yes i would go mastery over crit on an aoe fight like mel´jarak

Some of your advice is slightly off. You absolutely should be matching blue sockets with purple or green +hit gems. Crit is better than mastery for many people at intermediate gear levels. Quite often to maximize optimization you reforge into and out of a stat.

Thanks for the tip with the hit gems. Ill remember that from now on.
And as for crit being better than mastery for some people, thats why i mentioned it can change depending on your personal sims . I was just giving a general overview based off of what i could see from the armory.

Right now on most typical raid fights I've been lower then just about all of the other melee dps in my raid team, I looked at my simcraft and I saw 63-64k wondering if that was average for my gear or should be higher? Here is my current setup and WoL, any help would be appreciated, thanks

My dps on Garalon

Hello guys... This is my armory - http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...mbold/advanced - I am doing around 90 k deeps over whole fight on Garalon, we usually wipe due enrage at like 10%... Is 90 k ok for my gear? Should I do better? I just think weapon is really holding me back.. I am trying to keep my Censure on boss as much as possible and nuke a leg when any is up, I use mass exorcism to hit the boss as well while doing Exo on legs... Any particular tricks as paladin for this fight?

Thanks for feedback.

Grim

Originally Posted by Slummish

I don't get it. I've gone AFK a million times to blow my bf so he'd get off my back and let me raid. What's the problem here? People have sex...

Originally Posted by Malkiah

"you need to understand that my computer and i have a relationship that was here before i met you, and will be here long after we break up. if i could have sex with the CD-rom drive, you would be irrelevant. just so we're clear on this"

Unfortunatelly I cant, because I forgot to save combat log today. Will do tommorow... I am just asking if 90 k seems fine for my gear or its completely wrong...

---------- Post added 2012-11-15 at 08:56 AM ----------

Sorry, but why my thread got merged with this one? I was not really asking to fix my dps, I was just asking wheter its fine...

Originally Posted by Slummish

I don't get it. I've gone AFK a million times to blow my bf so he'd get off my back and let me raid. What's the problem here? People have sex...

Originally Posted by Malkiah

"you need to understand that my computer and i have a relationship that was here before i met you, and will be here long after we break up. if i could have sex with the CD-rom drive, you would be irrelevant. just so we're clear on this"

I don't get it. I've gone AFK a million times to blow my bf so he'd get off my back and let me raid. What's the problem here? People have sex...

Originally Posted by Malkiah

"you need to understand that my computer and i have a relationship that was here before i met you, and will be here long after we break up. if i could have sex with the CD-rom drive, you would be irrelevant. just so we're clear on this"

Hello Grimbold,
You should aim for 95% + uptime on inquisition. From a quick look i noticed that your Hammer of Wrath damage is a tad low. I am pretty sure you could get more hammers in.
Besides that, this fight has to do alot with weak points and legs damage. Holy Avenger works good in this fight aswell if you find yourself unable to get full benefit of Sanct. Wrath cause of moving between weak points and stuff.
Im gonna check the logs a lil bit more when i'll get some spare time

Hello Grimbold,
You should aim for 95% + uptime on inquisition. From a quick look i noticed that your Hammer of Wrath damage is a tad low. I am pretty sure you could get more hammers in.
Besides that, this fight has to do alot with weak points and legs damage. Holy Avenger works good in this fight aswell if you find yourself unable to get full benefit of Sanct. Wrath cause of moving between weak points and stuff.
Im gonna check the logs a lil bit more when i'll get some spare time

Hmm I'll try to watch Inquisition more closely then.. I am always prioritizing HoW when I pop my wings, but yea, the HoW damage seems low, you are right. Also I think there's no problem with moving between the legs, cos I can just dps the boss while doing it...

Edit: was just checking top ret pals on WoL for 10 man normal mode and they did like around 25 HoWs per fight, which seems to be the same as me. However, I did like 2 millions less damage with HoW... Strange..

Last edited by Grimbold of Skullcrusher; 2012-11-15 at 11:11 AM.

Originally Posted by Slummish

I don't get it. I've gone AFK a million times to blow my bf so he'd get off my back and let me raid. What's the problem here? People have sex...

Originally Posted by Malkiah

"you need to understand that my computer and i have a relationship that was here before i met you, and will be here long after we break up. if i could have sex with the CD-rom drive, you would be irrelevant. just so we're clear on this"