He Taketh away and he giveth back big time. The majority have now said that congress can pass a tax for any reason on anything. Furthermore, who will be getting this money? It will be the insurance companies, for as long as they stay in business. (Part two is their annihilation) And I just posted on the other thread that… Read more »

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June 28, 2012 14:04

Qoheleth

Third box failed. Does this mean it’s time to move to the fourth box?

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June 28, 2012 14:23

LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch

I’m not in the mood to build fucking anything. I’m past giving a fuck. Let them sink this country into the muck if socialism, kill it off completely, riots in the streets and starving people. They vote for this shit time and time again, so they fucking deserve it. I withdraw. I’m done. I certainly won’t help the establishment by… Read more »

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June 28, 2012 14:34

Emperor Misha I

LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says: I certainly won’t help the establishment by voting for Romney, because frankly, it doesn’t fucking matter. I know how you feel, sestrichka, and I can’t fault your reasoning. I’m still going to pull the lever though, but not because I have the slightest hope or expectation that it’s going to matter one bit,… Read more »

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June 28, 2012 14:51

Physics Geek

Repeal is a fucking sick joke as well. 60 seats,

I would beg to differ with you, Misha. Since it has been declared a TAX, this can be repealed via reconciliation, much like the way in which is was passed, with only 51 votes (50 + Veep, if not Joeplugs).

I would beg to differ with you, Misha. Since it has been declared a TAX, this can be repealed via reconciliation, much like the way in which is was passed, with only 51 votes (50 + Veep, if not Joeplugs).

It could. Do you see it actually happening? No, I don’t either.

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June 28, 2012 14:55

Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan

LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says: I’m not in the mood to build fucking anything. I’m past giving a fuck. Let them sink this country into the muck if socialism, kill it off completely, riots in the streets and starving people. They vote for this shit time and time again, so they fucking deserve it. I withdraw. I’m done.… Read more »

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June 28, 2012 14:58

LibraryGryffon

KArnold beat me to it. Though I would argue that the ballot box has one more chance. If it fails in November, then we’ll see. 8( Of course I’ve got my baby sister trying to argue that health care is a “right”. I’ve asked her how we guarantee that right, without forcing people to provide the service in question. Because… Read more »

Nope, that will never happen. Passive acceptance is the order of the day. Expect much GOP speechifying followed by “This is not the hill to die on.”

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June 28, 2012 15:14

Physics Geek

It could. Do you see it actually happening? No, I don’t either.

I’m just stating the mathematics, not the likelihood.

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June 28, 2012 15:16

LC MaxMomFL

What to do:
1. Get on your knees.
2. Repent.
3. Pray for our nation.
4. Ephesians 6:13 “… put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything,to…
5. stand.

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June 28, 2012 15:34

Terrapod

Fookin Donks are now running and hiding from the Holder contempt vote. They are trying to pull a Wisconsin by means of dereliction of duty. Bloody bunch of stinking slime mold and that with apologies to real slime mold. I hope these bastiches get swept out of office big time. Anyone with a D – vote for his opponent even… Read more »

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June 28, 2012 15:43

Yasherka

I am sick to my stomach. The Supreme Court has upheld the grossly unconstitutional Obamacare. What this means is that they have said the Constitution puts no limits whatsoever on the power of government. That the Constitution has no real purpose anymore. As of this morning, we are no longer a Constitutional Representative Republic. We are a Soviet model Oligarchy.… Read more »

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June 28, 2012 16:01

LC Light29ID - The Imperial Asshole

I agree with Nikki. FUCK.IT.ALL. My tactical view is that 1) we have our next John David Souter Roberts sitting on the Court or 2) Obongo the Kenyon Klingon Fucker™ has something on Roberts and made him a “a deal couldn’t refuse”. Either way we no longer are a Republic of laws but of gangsters. And as for TT, no… Read more »

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June 28, 2012 16:08

VAconservative

I would beg to differ with you, Misha. Since it has been declared a TAX, this can be repealed via reconciliation, much like the way in which is was passed, with only 51 votes (50 + Veep, if not Joeplugs). Sorry Geek. You’d still need 60 to get past a filibuster to get anything passed in the Senate to get… Read more »

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June 28, 2012 16:40

T

Sorry, Misha, Nicki, etc… OK, We lost this battle. Wars don’t all go to the good guys – I ain’t tellin ya different. Our “leaders” (and I DO HONEST TO THE GOOD LORD say that with a grain of salt roughly the size of Kansas) aren’t inspired, aren’t smart most of the time, and a large part of the time… Read more »

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June 28, 2012 16:49

Igor, Imperial Booby

Sorry, guys, I refuse to give up. Give it 24, 48, or 72 hours to calm down. Then start planning. Am I happy? No. We’re gonna have the SHTF before the American People Get It Right. But we’ll get there. Never, never, never, never, never, never, NEVER give up! And box 4 *is* going to be an option.

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June 28, 2012 16:50

BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK)

Much like some others, my reaction is FUCK IT ALL … if you fucking sheep want to keep voting for these statist assholes who promise you everything but only deliver tax bills, pink slips, and higher costs for everyday living essentials, then you get what you deserve. Watch unemployment skyrocket. Watch fuel and transportation costs skyrocket. Watch doctors retire and… Read more »

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June 28, 2012 16:58

LC Aggie Sith, a goddess, only different, G.G.O.R.

So….since it has been deemed a tax, is this the largest tax in our nation’s history?

COMPLETELY owned by the liberals?

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June 28, 2012 17:10

LC Gunsniper

A tax, eh?

Didn’t jugears and his merry band of bolsheviks try to claim the Commerce Clause specifically to avoid the mandate being refered to as a tax?

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June 28, 2012 17:33

LC Gladiator

“Let’s talk about Roberts. I’m going to tell you something that you’re not going to hear anywhere else, that you must pay attention to. It’s well known that Roberts, unfortunately for him, has suffered from epileptic seizures. Therefore he has been on medication. Therefore neurologists will tell you that medication used for seizure disorders, such as epilepsy, can introduce mental… Read more »

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June 28, 2012 18:22

Emperor Misha I

Igor, Imperial Booby says: Never, never, never, never, never, never, NEVER give up! And box 4 *is* going to be an option. Not giving up. Just refusing to pretend that this is anything other than what it is, unlike certain increasingly desperate pundits out there who are trying to fluff up this turd in hopes that they can make it… Read more »

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June 28, 2012 18:27

Emperor Misha I

LC Gladiator says: “Let’s talk about Roberts. I’m going to tell you something that you’re not going to hear anywhere else, that you must pay attention to. It’s well known that Roberts, unfortunately for him, has suffered from epileptic seizures. What a great pity he never got to the fun part where he swallows his tongue and chokes. Why Savage… Read more »

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June 28, 2012 18:29

LC Gladiator

Roberts Facing Medical Option on 2nd Seizure Despite his quick recovery from the seizure he suffered on Monday, Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. faces a complex diagnosis and a difficult decision. Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. leaving Penobscot Bay Medical Center on Tuesday in Rockport, Me. Because the seizure was his second — he had a similar one… Read more »

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June 28, 2012 18:30

ebrown2

Perverted Law Causes Conflict As long as it is admitted that the law may be diverted from its true purpose — that it may violate property instead of protecting it — then everyone will want to participate in making the law, either to protect himself against plunder or to use it for plunder. Political questions will always be prejudicial, dominant,… Read more »

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June 28, 2012 19:29

LC SecondMouse

Having read quite a bit of the majority and dissenting opinions, I believe that the Commerce Clause has been dealt a fatal blow by this ruling. It has been mooted in a particularly pernicious way, with a focus not on the framer’s intent, but on semantic atom-smashing. All a future Congress now requires is the will to call a thing… Read more »

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June 28, 2012 19:30

The Lone Haranguer

If you vote for Romney, and to elect (or reelect) Republicans to the Senate and House, there might be a 50/50 chance of getting it repealed. Throw a pissy fit, take your marbles and go home, and the chance becomes ZERO.

“Everyone wants to live at the expense of the State. They forget that the State lives at the expense of everyone.” – Frédéric Bastiat

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June 28, 2012 20:13

LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E.

LC Gunsniper @ #24: Easy. Any street monkey knows how to do three card monte. And President Barely Amoeba is still evolving from a Community Organizer. LC Gladiator @#25, Is it possible that THEY got to him through indirect hints it would be so much better for his young children, if he did the “right thing”? Whatever, Roberts has blotted… Read more »

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June 28, 2012 20:18

Orion

For those of you more learned than I – can you explain to me what limits there are, as of now, on the Government’s power? Cuz i can’t see a one. Looks to me like they can coerce compliance with anything they want via a ‘tax penalty’ for those who don’t want to ‘play along’ – Don’t want troops quartered… Read more »

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June 28, 2012 20:32

Somebody

I’m saying this, they want to force this upon me, bring body bags. I am done with the lieberal left, the rethuglican right. Both sides are traitors to this country.

What to do:
1. Get on your knees.
2. Repent.
3. Pray for our nation.
4. Ephesians 6:13 “… put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything,to…
5. stand.
LC MaxMomFL recently posted..Random Thoughts 5/14/12

Amen to that, sister!

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June 28, 2012 20:50

Draven32

Coming soon: Gun Owners’ Tax of $200 per firearm Gas Guzzler Tax of $200 per year per mile per gallon that your vehicle is rated under say, 40 mpg excessive driving tax- a progressive tax based on how much you drive beyond some miniscule amount that some pencil-pusher at the EPA says is ‘enough’ a progressive tax on excessive use… Read more »

“can you explain to me what limits there are, as of now, on the Government’s power?”

It is basically only limited by its imagination. At some point, it will be limited by ability to actually pay, but that could still be a good while off, yet.

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June 28, 2012 23:43

Draven32

Once the health insurance industry collapses as soon as the main regulations kick in (my roomate is getting taxed for his ‘cadillac health care plan’ that he pays extra for because he is in a g*d-d*mned wheelchair, btw) sure they won’t intentionally be ‘death panels’ but at some point they will decide that care that a doctor would like to… Read more »

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June 29, 2012 06:25

Draven32

and yeah, i realize that was my longest post here ever. I didnt even get into how it took them FIVE YEARS to remove the bone spurs in my dad’s shoulders. If you want to hear that story, I’ll tell it too.

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June 29, 2012 06:28

LibraryGryffon

Back when my husband was active duty navy, Portsmouth Naval Hospital did its damdest to try and kill our elder daughter. And treated me like an idiot, when I have more medical background than most of the corpsmen and even some of the residents, presumably because I was married to an enlisted man, and we all know that only folks… Read more »

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June 29, 2012 11:15

LC HJ Caveman82952

Thank You Big Dogg #22. My sentiments exactly. I have an idea of what I think is coming. The Free Shit Army feeling entitled to the time, effort and money of others by virtue of being an alleged minority. I am actually thank full my wife escaped this shit, for honestly, I would ahve killed some arrogan affirmative action pencil… Read more »

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June 29, 2012 14:42

Orion

You know, I’m curious. If there WERE to be a Civil War – in essence, an active rebellion, how many of you would actually go and fight? And for which side? Let’s say it comes down to Urban/Big-Government/’Living Constitution’ folks vs Rural/Small-Government/’Originalist’ folks.

Orion

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June 29, 2012 20:42

LC LOBO

Orion @ #:
I for one, will not deal with the city fuckers. Unless it is to watch them die. By any means necessary.

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June 29, 2012 21:28

LC Xystus

@54:
What the Emperor said. I haven’t a whole hell of a lot to lose by joining the fight.

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June 30, 2012 04:47

Darth Venomous

Misha, this isn’t 1776 or 1861. I know it sounds all that heroic to talk about it on the internet, but when push comes to shove, you’ll be standing out there alone

No he won’t.

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June 30, 2012 12:16

Orion

Thank you Oh Emperor. DJ, the question was IF there was an active rebellion, not WILL YOU START ONE? And the techniques of asymmetric warfare are pretty well known, and I’d hazard a guess a lot of the folks here have read Gen. Petraus’ manual on COIN and most of us are reasonably technologically savvy anyway. If there ever WAS… Read more »

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June 30, 2012 12:26

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

so how do we go about fighting this new Civil War? do we form up and march up Pennsylvania Avenue? do we secede and form a new Confederate Army and face the US Army with muskets at 50 yards? armed revolt in this country is impossible, we are too spread out over this great land and it’s too easy to… Read more »

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June 30, 2012 12:46

LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An

Knowing where history is heading in a general way, and predicting what specific act will be the trigger are two different things. And not every act of provocation has the seeds to be the trigger point. But someday one will. I am pretty sure, although I have not gotten my government certified diploma as being a seer on the order… Read more »

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June 30, 2012 18:03

VonZorch Imperial Researcher

LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An says: Despite my use of the metaphor of “meeting atop Redoubt #10?; I know that most of those who are in at the beginning of the war, if it starts, will not be among those alive at its end. Once again, the power of despair. If you are sure that you are not going… Read more »

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July 1, 2012 11:40

T

DJ – You are a miserable resemblance of a human if you have nothing that you will fight for, that you have nothing and no one so dear you will give your life for it. But then again, your writing has already indicated what a small person you are. As Adams once said “May history forget ye were our kin”.… Read more »

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July 1, 2012 12:58

LC Gladiator

How would a Lib make their utopia happen? I put you in charge today. Make it work. Oh yeah, and make those who don’t want to do anything and can work, work also. I mean, you will have jobs for every able bodied person, so everyone should be motivated to work, right? My cousin ,being a caseworker, has opened my… Read more »

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July 2, 2012 08:43

LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An

#68 LC Gladiator I know this question was meant for “someone else”; but I expect there may not be a reply. So if I may, here is one form of the outline of the perfect TWANLOC state [ not mine, of course]. Please forgive my intrusion. —————————————————— In the name of the general welfare, to protect the people’s security, to… Read more »

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July 2, 2012 12:58

Imperial Grammar Hun, G.L.O.R

LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An @ #:
Subotai, I will have to differ with number seven. In a TRUE utopia, no one can make any more money than anyone else, regardless of job. To freeze incomes at any level would still be a disparity, if the incomes are unequal.

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July 2, 2012 23:19

LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An

#70 LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. I said it wasn’t mine. Points 1-8 are DIRECTIVE 10-289 from Ayn Rand’s ATLAS SHRUGGED. I figured it would be recognized. Point 9 was my addition of Chief Justice Robert’s Lex Perfidious as applied to 10-289. The titles of Buraq Hussein are actual titles of Iosif Vissarionovitch Djugashvili [Joseph Stalin] when he ruled the Soviet… Read more »