The ladder bit actually does sound nice, may have to dust off D2 after the patch (if it really does stop all the hacks).

The reason Blizzard waited so long to patch hacks is because of what they said. They most likely want to make sure this patch will do it so they don't have to keep patching around all the hackers.

What you forget Slayne, is that d2 is not EQ. You can make a level 80 character in one weekend, from scratch, no hacks, no help. Without hardcore playing, I can make multiple level 80s in one weekend without joining random cow games. So starting over and what not is no big deal, it's probably the saving grace of the Diablo line of games. Being able to start a new class and have fun with it very quickly is the big selling point in those games, to me.

loving Frozen throne right now, the additional units really balanced out what i felt were some of the weak area's of the different factions. some of the minor gameplay improvements made the biggest impression on me, like the ability to que upgrades like you can with unit creation, i LOVE that.

Ancient:
I understood that. I've played diablo myself, well the second one. I found it to contain to much hack and slash for my tastes. So my experience with it lasted about 2 days in 3-4 hour periods before I sold the whole thing to a friend.

Course, this was back when D2 first came out. Who knows how it may have changed over the course of time. But I'm a sucker for a good story and npc interaction. Both of which D2 didn't really provide.

Believe its the 5th mission. Where you have to sneak in and destroy as much of the enemy before they wake up.

I've managed to sneak in and destroy all the main buildings(minus farms and towers) and the calvery guy for the humans, but after the time runs out. The undead just slaughter my main town and then head down to finish off the rest of me.

Slayne, your other hero should have a scroll of town portal. Make sure you take control of the dwarven mortar teams (all 4 of them) and stomp out the humans. When the Dreadlord comes knocking at your door, portal back and kill him. When I played, he never resurrected after the first attack either.

Well, I picked up Warcraft III, (I have been a long time Starcraft enthusiast, so I wasn't too interested in WC3) and I got to tell ya, I hate the upkeep and the "Hero" BS, I have enough to worry about during a game then to see my harvesting reduced by 60% because I have too many men. The single player version is pretty easy, but the upkeep thing is annoying to me and takes some of the fun out of it. When is there going to be a Starcraft 2?

Did you catch the starcraft 2 hint at the end of WCIII credits(you won't get it if you use the level skip or insta-win cheat on the last mission)? If not, check it out.... also, in one of the night elf missions, forget which one (the one where you have to bring Tyrande to the base, not the first mission) if you use your bolt-throwers on the trees, a bit hidden from view is a Hydralisk that will join you when you bring a unit near it. Nice lvl 7 unit to pound the undead with.

Have fun and light that candle for SC 2!

skoal

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Originally posted by Valleycrest Well, I picked up Warcraft III, (I have been a long time Starcraft enthusiast, so I wasn't too interested in WC3) and I got to tell ya, I hate the upkeep and the "Hero" BS, I have enough to worry about during a game then to see my harvesting reduced by 60% because I have too many men. The single player version is pretty easy, but the upkeep thing is annoying to me and takes some of the fun out of it. When is there going to be a Starcraft 2?

The goal for WC3, if I remember correctly, was to focus on smaller, more microable armies (hence the upkeep for large armies). In the Frozen Throne, the upkeep is raised to 50 for Low and 70 for High. I do agree that the game would have been better without the things you mentioned, but it's not really fair to say that it's not a good game as-is.

I'm just as eager to see Starcraft 2. They should keep mining just the way it was in SC1. No heroes, no upkeep. Yeah, that sounds nice.