The Hivemind Mount - Clarification on How it Works

Ever since Mente Alveare was obtained, several people have been wondering exactly how the effects of Unione Mente Alveare work. It is known that you can have a maximum of four people joined within a single Hivemind, at a 10% mount speed increase per person, to a maximum of 40%. Many players have thought about the benefits of such a mount, such as using it for battlegrounds and M+.\r\r<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When you realize that if you do the Hivemind chain with your M+ group you can get an extra 30% movement speed while moving between packs \ud83d\ude43<br><br>OW and RBG also \ud83d\ude43<\/p>&mdash; Mr. FelHammer (@_kib0) <a href="https:\/\/twitter.com\/_kib0\/status\/1074532424401514497?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2018<\/a><\/blockquote>\r\rCelestalon, one of the developers responsible for creating the Hivemind puzzles, has come forward on Twitter talking about how the Hivemind is actually supposed to work: The Joined Hivemind effect only applies to the group of people you did the puzzles with, as a special prestige bonus. The developers believe that having the effect work with everyone would make the mount a mandatory upgrade. \r\rYou are able to swap people you are linked within your Hivemind by completing the puzzles within Corte delle Stelle with a different group, but this will unlink you from your current group.\r\r\r<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For perspective, if it were freely usable by anyone, it\u2019d become a mandatory-feeling power upgrade, and you\u2019d see nothing but Hiveminds everywhere. Like this, it\u2019s an awesome looking, prestigious mount, with just a tiny extra bonus.<\/p>&mdash; \u2728\ud83d\udc09 (@Celestalon) <a href="https:\/\/twitter.com\/Celestalon\/status\/1074492861976965120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2018<\/a><\/blockquote>\r\r\rWhat do you think about this? Do you think the effects only working with the group you did the puzzles with is a good idea? Do you think a compromise could be reached? Let us know in the comments!\r\rIf you still need to obtain the Hivemind, follow the steps in our Complete Hivemind Guide, written together with the WoW Secret Finding Discord team!

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Commento di Ovidiu30

on 2018-12-16T23:57:35-06:00

Celestalon\u2019s explanation is wrong though because I can carry anyone on my other toons. His explanation works for my shaman because that\u2019s what toon I got the mount on but not all my other characters.

Commento di Meebo

on 2018-12-16T23:58:13-06:00

And now you stuffed over all those people that joined random groups. tyvm Blizzard.

Commento di Gendou

on 2018-12-16T23:58:42-06:00

They should let it be a standard multi-person mount. For the trouble you go through to get it, having it be a three or five person mount isn't awful.\rMake the speed bonus only apply to your "Hivemind," sure, if you're worried it will become 'required.' But don't restrict the multi-mounting aspect.

Commento di sammycat203

on 2018-12-16T23:59:59-06:00

While I do agree that having a much faster mount that can hold 5 people is op, I wish that I could use it as a normal two person mount with no speed increase with anyone.

Commento di Neryssa

on 2018-12-17T00:00:01-06:00

Celestalon\u2019s explanation is wrong though because I can carry anyone on my other toons. His explanation works for my shaman because that\u2019s what toon I got the mount on but not all my other characters.\r\rAfter Celestalon's explanation, we believe that is not intended and will be fixed. I've added that in the post. \r\rThey should let it be a standard multi-person mount. For the trouble you go through to get it, having it be a three or five person mount isn't awful.\rMake the speed bonus only apply to your "Hivemind," sure, if you're worried it will become 'required.' But don't restrict the multi-mounting aspect.\r\rI personally agree with making the mount a normal two-seater and applying the speed bonus only to people who are part of your Hivemind, here's to hoping we can get to a compromise :)

Commento di guardianrazh

on 2018-12-17T00:00:08-06:00

Totally sucks and makes the mount feel like a waste. I did it with random other people from the Secret Finding discord, it took a few hours but we had a good time and got the mount. Now I find out the cool unique part of the mount is useless because I'll never see those people again.\r\rWhy are some mounts allowed to be useful, like Sky Golem and Water Striders (which I love), but not others?\r\rIt doesn't help the feeling that my time doing the puzzles was wasted when I see people exploiting the final area to summon in people and sell the mount without the receiver doing any puzzles...

Commento di kyed13

on 2018-12-17T00:00:17-06:00

It's 100% a pointless stipulation, I don't see how anyone thought it would be a good idea.

Commento di Veph

on 2018-12-17T00:00:49-06:00

Celestalon\u2019s explanation is wrong though because I can carry anyone on my other toons. His explanation works for my shaman because that\u2019s what toon I got the mount on but not all my other characters.I think it's just bugged right now and not recognizing things properly on alt characters, I imagine that's unintended and will be fixed.

As for the mechanics themselves, I understand their reasoning, although it is a bit of a shame because I feel like most of us went and completed the puzzle with a group of strangers. I actually enjoyed the experience, it was a really fun way to bond with other people and get a sense of teamwork and accomplishment, however I know I'm never going to meet those people ever again, they weren't even on my server. So the bonus perk of this mount won't really be something I'll get to use.

At the same time, I don't see how they could really keep it either as the mount *would* become very overpowered. Maybe if there was a way we could selectively choose our 5 people? I know you can repeat the puzzle with other groups, but maybe something a little less convoluted to change your 'hivemind' buddies. A hidden meeting spot somewhere where you and 4 friends could channel a spell to invite them as your new hivemind group? With a cooldown of some sort? I'm just throwing out ideas.

EDIT: I also like the idea of making it into a regular 2 seater mount as a compromise!

Commento di Lorelai1548

on 2018-12-17T00:02:44-06:00

Yeah my boyfriend was able to join I. The mount and give me the speed on my Mage and Druid even tho he wasn\u2019t even logged in to the game when\u2019s I got it. \r\rEither he\u2019s wrong, or it\u2019s bugged. Either way, that is a really annoying requirement as I joined a pug with people I don\u2019t know to get it and we just had a good time and figured out some puzzles together.

Commento di mysticalos

on 2018-12-17T00:04:06-06:00

Celestalon\u2019s explanation is wrong though because I can carry anyone on my other toons. His explanation works for my shaman because that\u2019s what toon I got the mount on but not all my other characters.\r\rWell yeah, currently it's bugged for alts, but lets assume if they intend it to be locked, they are gonna fix that sadly. I bet they disable mount on alts in all honesty because it'll be the easier fix than trying to make restrictive quest flags account bound. Besides, if they did make restrictions acount bound it'll feel crappy to have mount that doesn't work with anyone on alt because your alt is probably not playing with same chars as main, but other alts or pugs instead. So instead of having an usuable mount that doesn't work, they'll probably just go with approach of locking mount to a char that has unlocked it only. it's least obstructive "fix"\r\r\rMy thoughts on system. I don't like it. A lot of people pugged the group, some who really just wanted to save time and get carried even paid for it, not knowing this information up front. In addition, the whole alt system is pretty crappy regardless of how they fix it, it'll be a mess unless they just remove the restrictions. Heck just changing the links requires doing annoying puzzles all over again. I hope with this bad system at very least they add an NPC to CoS that says "hey, want to be teleported back up, since you already did the puzzles?" That'd make it slightly less stressful. But we shall see what they do. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll toss restrictions out the window to simplify all the problems they cause with alts, buyers\/sellers, or just in general with the nature of a game where you probably rarely play with the same people every single day.

Commento di Wishblade

on 2018-12-17T00:05:46-06:00

Well that's entirely disappointing...\r\rReally wanted to mess around and have fun with my guild from time to time but I guess that's not happening...\r\rI get how the true Hivemind were who you did it with but still... That's really meh...

Commento di leobolin

on 2018-12-17T00:06:20-06:00

I really think the speed bonus should just be disabled in M+\/RBGs. Let it be enabled everywhere else, it's a fun little bonus perk.

Commento di TinyRaptor

on 2018-12-17T00:07:05-06:00

I would rather give up the speed boost and just have it be a 5-man mount than this.\r\rThose of us who had to group up with strangers we'll never talk to again because our friends and family are either unsubbed currently, away on holiday, or otherwise unavailable have basically been kicked in the no-no parts.

Commento di Alanray43

on 2018-12-17T00:07:19-06:00

And now you stuffed over all those people that joined random groups. tyvm Blizzard.\r\rIf you keep your monocles you can do the sequence again even if you already have the mount. It's specifically mentioned in Celestalon's tweet. Doing it with a guild grp will unlink you from that random group. This is mentioned in this news article.

Commento di Sydni

on 2018-12-17T00:08:07-06:00

At the very least you're able to swap who you're connected with, so doing it with randoms isn't going to screw you over.

Having it be a baseline two-seater for all non-joint players would be a nice compromise.On top, make sure that if you're going with an account-wide lock, don't do a lock to the characters. Do a lock to the friends accounts. Meaning that if 1,2,3,4,5 all complete this together, don't screw over 4's alt just because it's not their main.

And because people have been skimming over the article, you are not screwed if you did this with randoms. Redo the last puzzle with the people you want to use the mount with and your problem is solved.

Now all they've gotta do is fix the discrepancy with alts being able to get anyone in their Hivemind.

Commento di Babian

on 2018-12-17T00:11:02-06:00

Especially for people who play on different servers or factions, having the "Joined Hivemind" perk being account wide would be really restrictive. I only play on one server\/faction, but for that reason I think it should be only per character (even if it made my life a lot easier if it was account wide).\r\rAnd to those who pugged it. Just think of this perk as the final piece of the puzzle. It's easy enough to complete the final steps again with your M+ group if you want to.\r\rTo the people who paid for being carried through this. Lol, in your face! Don't buy a product or service you don't understand.

Commento di HumbleCrumble

on 2018-12-17T00:13:55-06:00

Now i feel pretty sad for those who joined random people to get the Mount.. :\/ Even i feel deflated at the news that using it on my alt will be 100% useless with my friends..\rI just want the 5-man capacity to stay above all else, even if it's just normal travelling out in the world.

Commento di TOMRUS

on 2018-12-17T00:14:51-06:00

Blizzard's fun police strikes again?

Commento di TinyRaptor

on 2018-12-17T00:16:20-06:00

And because people have been skimming over the article, you are not screwed if you did this with randoms. Redo the last puzzle with the people you want to use the mount with and your problem is solved.\rAnd what of those friends who don't really have the time\/will to sit and get 1 or two of the monocles (Or all) but want to be able to fly with you on it? If there was a way to skip right past the beams part and go directly to the hivemind and link yourself to a new group that would be perfectly fine, but saying 'just do all of that all over again!' is just...not fun.

Commento di Wulfien

on 2018-12-17T00:16:52-06:00

Screw you, Blizzard. Having a 5 person mount as something you can get in the game from your hard work is what we wanted. I don't give a crap about the speed boost, I want to be able to carry my friends regardless of who they are, at any time. I don't want to have to do that stupid puzzle every time I want to carry one of my friends. Getting them all online to do the puzzle together is an impossible feat. Not to mention my friends that don't have the hivemind. Do I have to carry them through getting the monocles too in order to get this "tiny extra bonus"? Seating should be baseline, mount speed should be from the puzzle.