"Say whatever you want but most people will agree with me and will define LB as mallcore."

Just like everyone on here agreed with you on everything else, right?

WRONG

"*faints*

LB are the very definition of mallcore"

I'm still struggling to understand where you get your information. You call LB mallcore, and you call Converge mallcore. Converge don't draw from pop/rap at all. You also said Converge had "whiny vocals."

Dude's full of contradictions. This is why I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about. You made all of this up in your mind somewhere along the first 18-19 years of your life, and it's so ingrained that you believe it to be fact. Time to open up your eyes, buttercup, because you're way too far off the reservation.

"Dude's full of contradictions. This is why I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about. You made all of this up in your mind somewhere along the first 18-19 years of your life, and it's so ingrained that you believe it to be fact."

"Okay. Then just do the very same thing, just when actually awake. Trust me."

Just because it's not what metalheads enjoy doesn't mean it's mallcore, you idiot. And false metal? Really? Look at your ratings. How many "true" metalheads can you tell me would think of any Hatebreed or Slipknot releases as "classics?" If anything, you don't have a clue what real metal is. Real metal fans would laugh in your face if you said that Slipknot was "real metal." They'd laugh in your face and then literally shit in your mouth.

"Just because it's not what metalheads enjoy doesn't mean it's mallcore, you idiot. And false metal? Really? Look at your ratings. How many "true" metalheads can you tell me would think of any Hatebreed or Slipknot releases as "classics?" If anything, you don't have a clue what real metal is. Real metal fans would laugh in your face if you said that Slipknot was "real metal." They'd laugh in your face and then literally shit in your mouth."

Dude, I know who I am. I sometimes wished not to, but I know who I am. Your refusal of the mallcoreness of LB is far, far, far, FAAAAR more embarrassing than calling "classics" to a pair of albums released by a band that, despite everything you may say, have their roots in true extreme metal. I never called myself "THE MOST TRVE VNERGROVND METALHEAD EVER!". Nor I ever will. And lemme just point out that I like how you say "hurr durr real metal fans would laugh in your face and then literally shit in your mouth if you said that Slipknot was 'real metal'". Who are you to say that I never met classic metalheads and told them such a thing?

"Dude, I know who I am. I sometimes wished not to, but I know who I am. Your refusal of the mallcoreness of LB is far, far, far, FAAAAR more embarrassing than calling "classics" to a pair of albums released by a band that, despite everything you may say, have their roots in true extreme metal. I never called myself "THE MOST TRVE VNERGROVND METALHEAD EVER!". Nor I ever will. And lemme just point out that I like how you say "hurr durr real metal fans would laugh in your face and then literally shit in your mouth if you said that Slipknot was 'real metal'". Who are you to say that I never met classic metalheads and told them such a thing?"

So you mock false metal but listen to it? That seems pretty hypocritical to me.

"Who are you to say that I never met classic metalheads and told them such a thing?"

Because any true metalhead wouldn't listen to that bullshit and think it's "extreme metal." Slipknot has all of their music rooted in nu-metal, with hip-hop/rap influences(MALLCORE BY YOUR DEFINITION, RIGHT?). Hatebreed is breakdowns on top of breakdowns on top of breakdowns, which true metalheads scoff at. Seriously, bro, just admit defeat and move on.

"So you mock false metal but listen to it? That seems pretty hypocritical to me."

No, you're extrapolating what I say.

"Slipknot has all of their music rooted in nu-metal, with hip-hop/rap influences(MALLCORE BY YOUR DEFINITION, RIGHT?). "

Biggest laughs ever. NONE of Slipknot's music is rooted in nu-metal. Their turntables have a more industrial feel to it (except on some moments of s/t). Rapping? Following your definition Burn My Eyes-era Machine Head is mallcore - there is mild rapping in "A Thousand Lies" and "Block". And RATM, too. How do I justify these bands not being mallcore? Because RATM never tried to be metal at all and Machine had like 0.1% of rap influence.

Now go listen to Iowa and All Hope Is Gone. Or do as you advised me, and make your research about the band's roots.

"Hatebreed is breakdowns on top of breakdowns on top of breakdowns, which true metalheads scoff at. Seriously, bro, just admit defeat and move on."

Not wanting to deny you but their later stuff is less like that. Plus (and yes, you may consider this a defeat) I don't really listen to Hatebreed since Summer.

From the top of my head, I would say Godflesh (because they're cited by the band as an influence) but TBH I haven't heard them enough time yet to actually decide so. But if you pay attention (especially on their post-s/t output) there is a vibe in the turntables that sounds a lot more like plain sampling than actual scratching.

"Sounds NOTHING like Godflesh. and you obviously haven't heard enough rap and hip-hop to make these assumptions."

I didn't say straight-up "oh yes, it sounds like Godflesh". I expressed doubt. And yes, I've heard plenty of rap in my life, some decent, some indecent. And they don't use turntables as in industrial samplings.

Wow. Just fucking wow. This is sad. I honestly feel bad for you. You can't complete a thought, you don't know what you're saying, and you refuse to open your mind up to the possibility that you're wrong. You're going to be one of those people that refuse to evacuate because you believe the storm won't be so bad, despite the 8,000,000 reports that say otherwise.