WEBVTT GULSTAN: WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THIS TONIGHT. KEVIN ACCOR HE AND ROGER SALAZAR. THANKS FOR JOINING US. YOU WERE THERE AT THE DEBATE LAST NIGHT. WE LOVED YOUR FACEBOOK POSTS. TELL US WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO BE THERE. KEVIN: IT IS A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE WHEN YOU ARE IN THE AUDITORIUM. THE CROWD WAS GETTING INTO IT AND THERE WAS VERY -- AN OBNOXIOUS SET OF FOLLOWERS OF RAND PAUL WHO WERE JUST BEHIND US WHO WERE CHEERING AND WHISTLING AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY. I THINK I LOST A LOT OF HEARING BY THE TIME I LEFT. IT WAS GREAT. KELLIE: WITH OF THESE PICTURES. IT SEEMED LIKE YOU WERE RIGHT THERE. WHEN YOU ARE COVERING THIS IN THE MIDDLE OF IT FEELS DIFFERENT. ANY CLEAR-CUT WINNERS OR LOSERS? KEVIN: ABSOLUTELY. THE SO-CALLED JB DEBATE WAS IN SOME WAYS MORE SUBSTANTIVE. NATIONAL SECURITY PLAY TO THE STRENGTHS OF THE DIFFERENT CANDIDATES IN THE UNDERCARD. LINDSEY GRAHAM, IT WAS TOTALLY IN HIS WHEELHOUSE. HE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS DOING AND HE DID A GREAT JOB. IN THE SECOND DEBATE I THINK THE CLEAR WINNERS WERE NOT NECESSARILY IN THIS ORDER BUT MARCO RUBIO, HE DID VE WELL, CHRIS CHRISTIE, AND JEB BUSH DID WELL. IT WAS AN UNUSUALLY SUBDUED NIGHT FOR DONALD TRUMP. HE DID NOT VOLUNTEER AS MUCH BOMBAST AS HE USUALLY DOES BUT THERE WAS A TIME WHEN HE GOT INTO IT WITH JEB BUSH. DONALD TRUMP: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SECURITY. GULSTAN: FROM YOUR SIDE WHAT ARE YOU TAKING AWAY, THE PLUSES AND MINUSES FROM LAST NIGHT? >> THE FIRST THOUGHT IS IT SEEMED IT IS A SAD STATE AND I FEEL SORRY FOR REPUBLICANS TO HAVE A CLOWN LIKE DONALD TRUMP BE IN THE LEAD. LAST NIGHT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE WE DID NOT SEE OTHER THAN JEB BUSH NO ONE WANTED TO GO AFTER HIM OR ATTACK HIM OR TRY TO BRING HIM DOWN A PEG WHICH I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING. DEBATES WERE SUPPOSED TO BE AREAS WHERE YOU MIX IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND HASH OUT SOME OF THE POLICIES. THE BIGGEST FIGHT BETWEEN ANY OF THE DEBATERS UP THERE WAS BETWEEN MARCO RUBIO AND TED CRUZ. THESE TWO FOLKS ARE CHILDREN OF IMMIGRANTS AND THE ARE TRYING TO BE -- OUTDO EACH OTHER WHO WILL BE MOST ANTI-IMMIGRANT CANDIDATE UP THERE. >> TED CRUZ IS AN IMMIGRANT. HE WAS BORN IN CANADA. IT IS SAD TO SEE THEY ARE PLAYING BASS POLITICS AND TRY TO GO DOWN TO THE LEAST COMMON DENOMINATOR AND THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT I SAW WAS IN TALKING ABOUT INTERNATIONAL SECURITY -- NATIONAL SECURITY, THEY WERE PLAYING TO SEE WHO COULD SCARE THE MOST. >> ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS FROM LAST NIGHT IF YOU WENT THERE EXPECTING IT TO BE THIS BIG POLICY PRONOUNCEMENT, IT WAS NOT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DISCOVERING AND THIS IS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AS WELL. THERE ARE VOTERS WHO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THEIR FEELINGS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP THREE YOU HAVE 60% OF REPUBLICAN VOTERS ARE SUPPORTING DONALD TRUMP, AND CREWS -- TED CRUZ. THEY ARE ENCOURAGING THE IDEA THAT WE NEED TO PULL BACK AND DO OTHER THINGS. YOU HAVE A SIMILAR PHENOMENON WITH BERNIE SANDERS IN THE DEMOCRATIC RACE. WE HAD ONLY -- MUST 40% WHO ARE SAYING I AM WASHING MY HANDS OF YOU. ALL THE ELITES, YOU HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST US AND THAT IS A HUGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THOSE PARTIES WHO ARE ALIENATED FROM TRADITIONAL PARTIES. KELLIE: THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THAT LAST NIGHT. I AM CURIOUS IF THE ELECTION WAS TOMORROW AND I KNOW THIS QUESTION COMES UP FROM TIME TO TIME AND THIS WILL BE CHANGING AS WE GET CLOSER, WHAT CANDIDATE IS STICKING OUT TO YOU GUYS? KEVIN: IF THE ELECTION WERE HELD, HILLARY CLINTON WOULD BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT. SHE WAS SMART ENOUGH BEFORE THIS DEBATE, SHE LAID OUT A FIVE-POINT PLAN TO DO WITH DOMESTIC RADICALIZATION AND TERRORISM ABROAD WHICH IS VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND HER POLICIES OF DEALING WITH THIS PROBLEM AND VIGILANCE AS OPPOSED TO FEAR CONTRASTS WHAT YOU SAW AT THE DEBATE. GULSTAN: CAN NATIONAL SECURITY BE A TOUGH ROAD FOR HILLARY CLINTON? >> ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT IS TOUGH, ON THE ISSUE OF TRUST, HER NUMBERS ARE NOT MUCH EFREN THEN DONALD TRUMP'S. -- DIFFERENT THAN DONALD TRUMPS. THEY ARE TAPPING INTO A FEELING, THEY ARE VALIDATING PEOPLE'S FEELINGS OF FEAR AND WORRY. YOU CONTRAST THAT WITH THE PRESIDENT THE OTHER EVENING WHO TALKED DOWN TO PEOPLE AND SAID, DISMISSING THEIR FEARS AND CONCERNS CREATED THAT HIS TONE DEAF. THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING IN BETWEEN. FOLKS WHO ARE MAKING UP THEIR OWN FACTS IN THE CASE OF DONALD TRUMP AND TRADITIONAL POLITICS. IT IS AN AMAZING PHENOMENON. GULSTAN: THANK YOU FOR BEING