I'm in the (vast) minority, I know, perhaps a population of one, who prefers the S3 interface. I've only been with the Roamio a day, and am sure I'll get used to it and come to like some aspects, but I really preferred Now Playing taking up the whole screen and not cluttered with those programs on top (cannot imagine using that) and the PIP window. Sure, there were times I would have liked to make a quick change while watching a program and couldn't before, but something optional would've been nice. Also would prefer the Discovery Bar to be optional.

Missing the scrolling up/down through programs, not liking clutter I don't use and would be nice to choose which things to show.

Now, some of this is related to my preferring simpler/cleaner nterfaces in general, and some of it is that I have advancing vision issues that creates more challenges for me than the general population.

I do have a simple to stupid question that I'll likely figure out as soon as I hit send, but ...

With the old interface, hitting Tivo took me to Tivo Central and stopped the program I was watching. Is the method now just to pause indefinitely if one wants to stop watching a show, or is there something else that stops it besides starting another show?

As best I can tell from squinting at Google Images pictures (lol), the Glo Premium doesn't have the bump, either. Does your remote have the ABCD buttons, or the 1/2 switch on it? If it has the 1/2 switch, it is a Glo. If it has the ABCD buttons, it is the Glo Premium. (Mine is a plain Glo, no premium).

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Yeah, I guess its the Premium. I didnt realize there were two different Glo's!

I'm in the (vast) minority, I know, perhaps a population of one, who prefers the S3 interface. I've only been with the Roamio a day, and am sure I'll get used to it and come to like some aspects, but I really preferred Now Playing taking up the whole screen and not cluttered with those programs on top (cannot imagine using that) and the PIP window. Sure, there were times I would have liked to make a quick change while watching a program and couldn't before, but something optional would've been nice. Also would prefer the Discovery Bar to be optional.

Missing the scrolling up/down through programs, not liking clutter I don't use and would be nice to choose which things to show.

Now, some of this is related to my preferring simpler/cleaner nterfaces in general, and some of it is that I have advancing vision issues that creates more challenges for me than the general population.

I do have a simple to stupid question that I'll likely figure out as soon as I hit send, but ...

With the old interface, hitting Tivo took me to Tivo Central and stopped the program I was watching. Is the method now just to pause indefinitely if one wants to stop watching a show, or is there something else that stops it besides starting another show?

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You can toggle the video preview window temporarily by hitting 'slow' on the remote, or turn it off permanently in the settings. Turning it off adds 2 more items to ignore up there.

You can just hit pause if you are in the menus and want to pause... if you were watching live tv, it will stay paused till the buffer maxes out and then suddenly start playing.

I do have a simple to stupid question that I'll likely figure out as soon as I hit send, but ...

With the old interface, hitting Tivo took me to Tivo Central and stopped the program I was watching. Is the method now just to pause indefinitely if one wants to stop watching a show, or is there something else that stops it besides starting another show?

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At the Tivo Central screen, you can press the Slow button to toggle the thumbnail video. (However, this just toggles the display - if you want to pause it, you must do that before toggling the video off.)

WHAT THE F*CK IS UP WITH MOVING THE DAMNED GUIDE BUTTON?! Who thought THAT was good idea?

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Give it time.

At first, after 10+ years of the same Guide button location, I was the same way. But now, after a few months, I realize it's much better. When I pick up the remotes to the older TiVos, I realize how badly their guide buttons are located.

I'm in the (vast) minority, I know, perhaps a population of one, who prefers the S3 interface. I've only been with the Roamio a day, and am sure I'll get used to it and come to like some aspects, but I really preferred Now Playing taking up the whole screen and not cluttered with those programs on top (cannot imagine using that) and the PIP window. Sure, there were times I would have liked to make a quick change while watching a program and couldn't before, but something optional would've been nice. Also would prefer the Discovery Bar to be optional.

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The Discovery Bar is fantastic for one thing...getting my kids to impatiently demand to watch something that hasn't even recorded yet. What's not to love!

2. Original (perhaps very rare, or only a few in existence) 4xAAA battery with soft buttons, 1-2 switch, colored ACBD buttons, and bump on 5 button.

3. First new revision with hard buttons, colored ABCD buttons, bump on 5 button, and ambient light sensor on the TOP (of the board, sensing through the top of the remote).

4. Second new revision with hard buttons, colored ABCD buttons, NO BUMP ON 5 BUTTON, and ambient light sensor on the BOTTOM (of the board, sensing through the same window the IR components emit through).

The last two are "luck of the draw", and can only be identified by using bright light to find if there is a light sensing spot next to the "TiVo" button, and the bump on the 5 button may also vary. TiVo didn't make any effort to make the two revisions otherwise easy to identify.

Also, I find the different ambient light sensing positions to be of negligible difference in some scenarios, while other scenarios making one or the other highly undesirable.

Depending on availability, you can sometimes order a different color (whole remote, just the top, or just the outline of the top bezel) when ordering from TiVo's website. The default was black, while all others seemed to be a "while in stock" option.

WHAT THE F*CK IS UP WITH MOVING THE DAMNED GUIDE BUTTON?! Who thought THAT was good idea?

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The guide button is now in a more prominent and logical place than it was before. Although for me, since I like all my remotes to match, I needed to replace all my Slide remotes with Slide Pro remotes so the Guide button would be in the same location. Otherwise I would be pressing the wrong button. I have no issues now that the guide button is in the same place on all my TiVo remotes. The new location of the guide button is a much better place than previously.

The guide button is now in a more prominent and logical place than it was before. Although for me, since I like all my remotes to match, I needed to replace all my Slide remotes with Slide Pro remotes so the Guide button would be in the same location. Otherwise I would be pressing the wrong button. I have no issues now that the guide button is in the same place on all my TiVo remotes. The new location of the guide button is a much better place than previously.

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So you're the reason theyre sold out.

Id love to add a slide pro to my roamio since i used a slide on my premiere.

Any idea if the dongle that comes with the slide pro - premiere package could be used on a Mini so i could use my stock Roamio remote with my mini?

I don't think I completely agree with your list. I have the original 4xAAA style (ilke this one) which has the 1-2 switch, but no colored ABCD buttons. That was my earlier point, that I'm not aware of the existance of any TiVo-branded remotes that have both the 1-2 switch and the colored ABCD buttons. It seems to be one or the other, as far as I can tell from exhaustive Google searches.

I don't think I completely agree with your list. I have the original 4xAAA style (ilke this one) which has the 1-2 switch, but no colored ABCD buttons. That was my earlier point, that I'm not aware of the existance of any TiVo-branded remotes that have both the 1-2 switch and the colored ABCD buttons. It seems to be one or the other, as far as I can tell from exhaustive Google searches.

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As I said in the first of the two posts where I made mention of it, I was looking right at it, and examining everything, including the box it came in (retail box).

It exists, I have it, and I'm once again holding it in my hands.

It likely had a VERY short production lifespan, and was quickly 86'd from production as soon as the design for the Premiere basic remote was born (and the death of the 1-2 switch occurred). How many were manufactured is unknown, how many were sold is unknown, and how many haven't been trash-binned, rather than kept as part of a "TiVo stuff museum", when they no longer function good enough for everyday use, is unknown.

It makes sense that to add the four buttons, they could keep the cost down by removing the switch. Not that I agree with the decision, just saying...

I will agree that I need to update my post to include the first-gen Glo w/switch, but w/o ABCD colored buttons, since I completely neglected that one, which is still available from 9th Tee, here: http://www.9thtee.com/tivoreplacementparts.htm

Full Disclosure:

1. It was sent to me as part of a "care package box" from days (many years ago) when I worked with TiVo, without actually being paid, or employed by, TiVo.

2. It may have been a prototype, or a "very limited production run" item. It's entirely possible I should not even have it. I'd figure that it coming with a retail box would be a sign it isn't some super-secret prototype that somebody accidentally gave me for helping TiVo out.

3. Some of the not-so-bright, NDA-bound, Beta and field-trial participants have been known to get one-run items (like a wireless mouse with a TiVo logo on it), then post on TCF about a "mystery gift", then speculate if it had anything to do with being a beta tester ('doh! - 1st rule of NDA club).

Welp, can't argue with that. I'm thinking your assumption that it may have been a prototype or a limited run item is right, because I can't find any combination of Google searches to find one like that. I can find just about any other version of their remotes, past and present, but not that one. It really is baffling to me why they would remove the switch. I mean, at some point, they obviously realized it was a feature people liked/wanted, but it looks like they've decided we don't need it anymore since the last, what, four? versions of their remotes don't have it anymore. Sigh.

Welp, can't argue with that. I'm thinking your assumption that it may have been a prototype or a limited run item is right, because I can't find any combination of Google searches to find one like that. I can find just about any other version of their remotes, past and present, but not that one. It really is baffling to me why they would remove the switch. I mean, at some point, they obviously realized it was a feature people liked/wanted, but it looks like they've decided we don't need it anymore since the last, what, four? versions of their remotes don't have it anymore. Sigh.

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Agreed, on all points.

I bet a few are wondering why we are talking about remotes, when the thread is about the "UI"...

When a device has a remote (as opposed to touchscreen devices and such), it is VERY MUCH a part of the "UI", and both parts can be equally important, even though many only pay attention to what's on the screen.

Helpful hint on the new RF & IR remotes: Make sure to program BOTH the RF and IR codes on each remote (and each TiVo), or a fallback to IR mode (accident or fluke) could have one remote controlling everything and/or everything accepting all remotes (or some combination of undesired cross-control/operation).

I don't like not seeing duration when viewing "Upcoming" episodes, doesn't show it in the Upcoming list nor when you look at the program details. I frequently like to know how long things are going to last.

I don't like not seeing duration when viewing "Upcoming" episodes, doesn't show it in the Upcoming list nor when you look at the program details. I frequently like to know how long things are going to last.