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Originally Posted by dontcloseyoureyes

What's he proven though? At least Bracken has yards on him. It's plain obvious that Gillespie is past it, and unless can get back the 10kph he suddenly lost, he's history. If Kasper keeps taking bucketloads of FC wickets then maybe, but at the moment he's injured.

Johnson took some wickets on a helpful pitch after it rained. Sure, they were good, but he's been blasted in nearly every other international game he played. Even took some stick against the Bangas, before getting some late wickets. All the while Bracken has a proven FC record in Australia (especially at the GABBA and the SCG) and has more than shown he is the goods in OD cricket. I fail to see why they can't do horses for courses and slot Bracken in at the grounds that will make hima dangerous prospect.

Brackens record at the SCG is poor, to sort that out.

He'll be nothing more than an above average one day bowler, and that's coming from someone who likes Bracken, but I'm being realistic. Johnson had an awesome first class season last year and should be above Bracken.

An above average one day bowler, with one of the best ODI bowling records in history?

A top FC season doesn't mean he should be playing test cricket. Bracken's had numerous top seasons in the Pura Cup, as well as taking wickets at around 20 for the Australian OD side.

In any case, he wouldn't be in my starting XI anyway. MacGill should be there for all five tests, I just don't think that those three (two of which are pretty much past it, and one, despiute being a hot prospect, has less FC cricket under his belt than Gelman) should be ahead of someone with an ODI record like his. Especially considering his form of late.

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Originally Posted by dontcloseyoureyes

An above average one day bowler, with one of the best ODI bowling records in history?

A top FC season doesn't mean he should be playing test cricket. Bracken's had numerous top seasons in the Pura Cup, as well as taking wickets at around 20 for the Australian OD side.

In any case, he wouldn't be in my starting XI anyway. MacGill should be there for all five tests, I just don't think that those three (two of which are pretty much past it, and one, despiute being a hot prospect, has less FC cricket under his belt than Gelman) should be ahead of someone with an ODI record like his. Especially considering his form of late.

Johnsons form of late is superior to Brackens. Opinions are pretty much pointless here, because it's a fact that Bracken isn't anywhere in the selectors thinking for test matches.

Anyways, you're right, MacGill should play all five tests, no questions asked.

There's not much to sample to be honest, but going by their games in Malaysia, not really. Johnson bowled supremely in one game (albeit with helpful conditions, a night sky and after some nice juicy rain) but Bracken still consistently took wickets. The difference in averages is slight, but noticable. Johnson 6 @ 12.66 from two games whereas Bracken took 6 @ 15.33. The Champs Trophy could indeed prove me wrong (though match reports from warm up games suggest that Johnson's bowling has been rather innefective so far) but I don't really see how you could say his form has been superior, considering the few matches they've both played.

The funny thing is that there is a IND/SA series going on at the same time, and I might just be watching the Ashes and flipping over to IND/SA, instead of the other way around.

Both will be at different times. Most Aussie tests start at 5.30 AM IST while RSA ones start at 3.30 PM IST. Even for the East coast centres in Australia, there would be maximum 1 hour over lapping if at all (not sure).

Both will be at different times. Most Aussie tests start at 5.30 AM IST while RSA ones start at 3.30 PM IST. Even for the East coast centres in Australia, there would be maximum 1 hour over lapping if at all (not sure).

Sweet. What times GMT? I live in the US, so one or both of them may not fit. I am willing to stay up at night but I do need slee from time to time.

Originally Posted by KungFu_Kallis

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It scares me really that the selectors do have Gillespie & Kaspa ahead of Bracken in the pecking order. Both are well past their peaks, and haven't shown anything much to suggest that they're returning to their form pre Ashes 2005.

In any case, Clark & Johnson will be the 1's fighting it our for the 3rd seamer spot imo. I would prefer they went with Johnson A) Because he's a queenslander and B) Because he is a Lefty, quick, and can get a decent amount of swing, whilst Clark is a similar bowler to McGrath, except nowhere near as good.

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