Ant, I don't want to piss you off (honest ) but I really don't notice the quality difference between your shiny sites and these bog standard ones. Is there the need to spend so much, or is there a cheaper alternative?

Well, tbh new chat does look/function better but it never really attracted any significant extra posters to my knowledge, to justify the expenditure.

I could do it using the database from here, but it asnt been used for a while, plus the host I was looking at would be able to do it all properly for me.The £30 a month is for the full package with upto 65 users.

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