faster than the S5 and brighter bigger screen but otherwise same as the S5; until the battery consumption is fixed go for the S5 if you want a Samsung

The Samsung Note 4 as a camera is much the same as the Samsung S5. It's just got a wee bit faster focus; a wee brighter and much better screen (with corresponding reduction in battery life; personally I'll take the battery life of the S5; the Note 4's short battery life is unacceptable! Samsung please fix it with a firmware . . .

soul-less but who cares :-_); great daytime great; bad at low light

I stand by my previous S5 photo post and S5 impressionistic review: great in day time; water resistance is useless since once the touch screen gets wet it doesn't break but it also doesn't work; bad auto-focus at night and generally a bad camera in low light; souless in the same way top of the range Windows PCs used to be but it gets . . .

nice sensor but shame about the software

RAW option is fantastic and the photos are great BUT RAW capture is too slow (it takes seconds! Wouldn't it be great if Microsoft in a future Lumia had a dedicated processor or the buffer capacity to make this just as fast as the . . .