No actually I just want the truth and I do. Not believe the entire truth has come out as of yet.

What I have read and what has been reported just doesn't make logical sense to me.

Very simple actually.

— Posted by flairrick

As long as it makes sense to the NCAA thats all that matters. Investigations have come back with the same results. Academic issues. Time for Carolina to shut their doors and tell the NCAA the next time you want to investigate us stop by the other local schools first!

— Posted by larrys080 .v1

There have been no investigations.

— Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

According to the people who matter the school has been investigated many times. Too many IMO! Its over despite the hopes of ABC nation.

— Posted by larrys080 .v1

Yes, I agree, UNCheat should continue to investigate UNCheat and tell the public they continue to find they have done nothing wrong.

Nope, it does not sound right. Plenty of schools offer classes that only require you to write a paper. When you cross the line and change grades and have phantom professors, you are definitely in the wrong. But, as I said, you do not care about that part. You only want the athletic department to be punished.

— Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

No actually I just want the truth and I do. Not believe the entire truth has come out as of yet.

What I have read and what has been reported just doesn't make logical sense to me.

Very simple actually.

— Posted by flairrick

As long as it makes sense to the NCAA thats all that matters. Investigations have come back with the same results. Academic issues. Time for Carolina to shut their doors and tell the NCAA the next time you want to investigate us stop by the other local schools first!

— Posted by larrys080 .v1

There have been no investigations.

— Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

According to the people who matter the school has been investigated many times. Too many IMO! Its over despite the hopes of ABC nation.

Nope, it does not sound right. Plenty of schools offer classes that only require you to write a paper. When you cross the line and change grades and have phantom professors, you are definitely in the wrong. But, as I said, you do not care about that part. You only want the athletic department to be punished.

— Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

No actually I just want the truth and I do. Not believe the entire truth has come out as of yet.

What I have read and what has been reported just doesn't make logical sense to me.

Very simple actually.

— Posted by flairrick

As long as it makes sense to the NCAA thats all that matters. Investigations have come back with the same results. Academic issues. Time for Carolina to shut their doors and tell the NCAA the next time you want to investigate us stop by the other local schools first!

Putting these together, the only conclusion is that there is a clear problem within the athletic department.

The FUNNIEST part about all this, is that we all (every last one of us) already knows this to be the case. It's just a matter of proving it. Michael McAdoo is singing like a canary. And I suspect he is not the only one that will before this is said and done. The best part is, this is far, far, far from over. The academic side is not liking being made the scapegoat in this. I believe there is a mole still talking to Dan Kane, and there is plenty more to come. This is some fun stuff, isn't it! :)

— Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

As I have stated before, these classes were geared toward regular students as well as athletes. That is why it was not an "Athletic Department" problem only.

— Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

And like others have said, so if you are another University and you want to get away with what UNCheat did, all you have to do is have classes that others students take along with your athletes that you need to keep eligible and it is just fine and dandy.

Does that sound right to you?

— Posted by flairrick

You Lemmings want this to be an Athletics issue. It is not, and never has been.

— Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

It is ONLY an athletics issue.

Non-athletes being in these classes (in small numbers, of course) were just the cover. And everyone knows this, even you. You're just a homer that won't ever admit to anything.

Another probe today cleared the athletic department once again! With a beat down coming to State in Durham tonight and the Carolina basketball team continuing to be proven innocent my guess is that domestic violence will be at a all-time high in Raleigh tonight. #theresalwaysnextyear

— Posted by larrys080 .v1

WHOA! Not so fast, my friend!

First of all, it's funny how they declare this to not be about athletics, in the face of all the evidence to the contrary.

Secondly, here's something for you to think about if you think this case is closed:

Putting these together, the only conclusion is that there is a clear problem within the athletic department.

The FUNNIEST part about all this, is that we all (every last one of us) already knows this to be the case. It's just a matter of proving it. Michael McAdoo is singing like a canary. And I suspect he is not the only one that will before this is said and done. The best part is, this is far, far, far from over. The academic side is not liking being made the scapegoat in this. I believe there is a mole still talking to Dan Kane, and there is plenty more to come. This is some fun stuff, isn't it! :)

— Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

As I have stated before, these classes were geared toward regular students as well as athletes. That is why it was not an "Athletic Department" problem only.

— Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

That's what you have to tell yourself to make it acceptable.

We admit, Carolina was very smart in their cheating. They took painstaking measures to try to make it look legit by letting other students cheat, too. But some of these classes WERE created JUST for athletes. Some were created just before the deadline for registration, and immediately filled with athletes. And athletes, who make up 4% of the student population, accounted for over 60% of the enrollments in these classes.

You have to understand rick, the unc posters on this forum are all over 60, things like cheating and coverups seem impssible to these geezers. Much the same thing with JoePa, since I dont know what it is or understand it, it cant be true.

Nope, it does not sound right. Plenty of schools offer classes that only require you to write a paper. When you cross the line and change grades and have phantom professors, you are definitely in the wrong. But, as I said, you do not care about that part. You only want the athletic department to be punished.

— Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

No actually I just want the truth and I do. Not believe the entire truth has come out as of yet.

What I have read and what has been reported just doesn't make logical sense to me.

Very simple actually.

— Posted by flairrick

As long as it makes sense to the NCAA thats all that matters. Investigations have come back with the same results. Academic issues. Time for Carolina to shut their doors and tell the NCAA the next time you want to investigate us stop by the other local schools first!

— Posted by larrys080 .v1

So what you are saying is the police should stop at the next door neighbors house of the known drug dealer when information about the known drug dealer is discovered because the drug dealer is tired of answering questions.

Great strategy. So what you are telling UNCheat is, continue to stonewall and outlast the investigators. Yeah, that is logicall

You Lemmings want this to be an Athletics issue. It is not, and never has been.

— Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

Yeah, I would avoid the point of the post also if I were you.

— Posted by flairrick

Nope, it does not sound right. Plenty of schools offer classes that only require you to write a paper. When you cross the line and change grades and have phantom professors, you are definitely in the wrong. But, as I said, you do not care about that part. You only want the athletic department to be punished.

— Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

No actually I just want the truth and I do. Not believe the entire truth has come out as of yet.

What I have read and what has been reported just doesn't make logical sense to me.

Very simple actually.

— Posted by flairrick

As long as it makes sense to the NCAA thats all that matters. Investigations have come back with the same results. Academic issues. Time for Carolina to shut their doors and tell the NCAA the next time you want to investigate us stop by the other local schools first!

And like others have said, so if you are another University and you want to get away with what UNCheat did, all you have to do is have classes that others students take along with your athletes that you need to keep eligible and it is just fine and dandy.

Does that sound right to you?

— Posted by flairrick

You Lemmings want this to be an Athletics issue. It is not, and never has been.

— Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

Yeah, I would avoid the point of the post also if I were you.

— Posted by flairrick

Nope, it does not sound right. Plenty of schools offer classes that only require you to write a paper. When you cross the line and change grades and have phantom professors, you are definitely in the wrong. But, as I said, you do not care about that part. You only want the athletic department to be punished.

— Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

No actually I just want the truth and I do. Not believe the entire truth has come out as of yet.

What I have read and what has been reported just doesn't make logical sense to me.

As I have stated before, these classes were geared toward regular students as well as athletes. That is why it was not an "Athletic Department" problem only.

— Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

And like others have said, so if you are another University and you want to get away with what UNCheat did, all you have to do is have classes that others students take along with your athletes that you need to keep eligible and it is just fine and dandy.

Does that sound right to you?

— Posted by flairrick

You Lemmings want this to be an Athletics issue. It is not, and never has been.

— Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

Yeah, I would avoid the point of the post also if I were you.

— Posted by flairrick

Nope, it does not sound right. Plenty of schools offer classes that only require you to write a paper. When you cross the line and change grades and have phantom professors, you are definitely in the wrong. But, as I said, you do not care about that part. You only want the athletic department to be punished.

Putting these together, the only conclusion is that there is a clear problem within the athletic department.

The FUNNIEST part about all this, is that we all (every last one of us) already knows this to be the case. It's just a matter of proving it. Michael McAdoo is singing like a canary. And I suspect he is not the only one that will before this is said and done. The best part is, this is far, far, far from over. The academic side is not liking being made the scapegoat in this. I believe there is a mole still talking to Dan Kane, and there is plenty more to come. This is some fun stuff, isn't it! :)

— Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

As I have stated before, these classes were geared toward regular students as well as athletes. That is why it was not an "Athletic Department" problem only.

— Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

And like others have said, so if you are another University and you want to get away with what UNCheat did, all you have to do is have classes that others students take along with your athletes that you need to keep eligible and it is just fine and dandy.

Does that sound right to you?

— Posted by flairrick

You Lemmings want this to be an Athletics issue. It is not, and never has been.

Another probe today cleared the athletic department once again! With a beat down coming to State in Durham tonight and the Carolina basketball team continuing to be proven innocent my guess is that domestic violence will be at a all-time high in Raleigh tonight. #theresalwaysnextyear

— Posted by larrys080 .v1

WHOA! Not so fast, my friend!

First of all, it's funny how they declare this to not be about athletics, in the face of all the evidence to the contrary.

Secondly, here's something for you to think about if you think this case is closed:

Putting these together, the only conclusion is that there is a clear problem within the athletic department.

The FUNNIEST part about all this, is that we all (every last one of us) already knows this to be the case. It's just a matter of proving it. Michael McAdoo is singing like a canary. And I suspect he is not the only one that will before this is said and done. The best part is, this is far, far, far from over. The academic side is not liking being made the scapegoat in this. I believe there is a mole still talking to Dan Kane, and there is plenty more to come. This is some fun stuff, isn't it! :)

— Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

As I have stated before, these classes were geared toward regular students as well as athletes. That is why it was not an "Athletic Department" problem only.

— Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

And like others have said, so if you are another University and you want to get away with what UNCheat did, all you have to do is have classes that others students take along with your athletes that you need to keep eligible and it is just fine and dandy.

Does that sound right to you?

— Posted by flairrick

You Lemmings want this to be an Athletics issue. It is not, and never has been.

Another probe today cleared the athletic department once again! With a beat down coming to State in Durham tonight and the Carolina basketball team continuing to be proven innocent my guess is that domestic violence will be at a all-time high in Raleigh tonight. #theresalwaysnextyear

— Posted by larrys080 .v1

WHOA! Not so fast, my friend!

First of all, it's funny how they declare this to not be about athletics, in the face of all the evidence to the contrary.

Secondly, here's something for you to think about if you think this case is closed:

Putting these together, the only conclusion is that there is a clear problem within the athletic department.

The FUNNIEST part about all this, is that we all (every last one of us) already knows this to be the case. It's just a matter of proving it. Michael McAdoo is singing like a canary. And I suspect he is not the only one that will before this is said and done. The best part is, this is far, far, far from over. The academic side is not liking being made the scapegoat in this. I believe there is a mole still talking to Dan Kane, and there is plenty more to come. This is some fun stuff, isn't it! :)

— Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

As I have stated before, these classes were geared toward regular students as well as athletes. That is why it was not an "Athletic Department" problem only.

— Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

And like others have said, so if you are another University and you want to get away with what UNCheat did, all you have to do is have classes that others students take along with your athletes that you need to keep eligible and it is just fine and dandy.

Another probe today cleared the athletic department once again! With a beat down coming to State in Durham tonight and the Carolina basketball team continuing to be proven innocent my guess is that domestic violence will be at a all-time high in Raleigh tonight. #theresalwaysnextyear

— Posted by larrys080 .v1

WHOA! Not so fast, my friend!

First of all, it's funny how they declare this to not be about athletics, in the face of all the evidence to the contrary.

Secondly, here's something for you to think about if you think this case is closed:

Putting these together, the only conclusion is that there is a clear problem within the athletic department.

The FUNNIEST part about all this, is that we all (every last one of us) already knows this to be the case. It's just a matter of proving it. Michael McAdoo is singing like a canary. And I suspect he is not the only one that will before this is said and done. The best part is, this is far, far, far from over. The academic side is not liking being made the scapegoat in this. I believe there is a mole still talking to Dan Kane, and there is plenty more to come. This is some fun stuff, isn't it! :)

— Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

A man with an anti-UNC agenda. Of course, you would believe him! His credibility is in the toilet, so have fun!

Another probe today cleared the athletic department once again! With a beat down coming to State in Durham tonight and the Carolina basketball team continuing to be proven innocent my guess is that domestic violence will be at a all-time high in Raleigh tonight. #theresalwaysnextyear

— Posted by larrys080 .v1

WHOA! Not so fast, my friend!

First of all, it's funny how they declare this to not be about athletics, in the face of all the evidence to the contrary.

Secondly, here's something for you to think about if you think this case is closed:

Putting these together, the only conclusion is that there is a clear problem within the athletic department.

The FUNNIEST part about all this, is that we all (every last one of us) already knows this to be the case. It's just a matter of proving it. Michael McAdoo is singing like a canary. And I suspect he is not the only one that will before this is said and done. The best part is, this is far, far, far from over. The academic side is not liking being made the scapegoat in this. I believe there is a mole still talking to Dan Kane, and there is plenty more to come. This is some fun stuff, isn't it! :)

— Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

As I have stated before, these classes were geared toward regular students as well as athletes. That is why it was not an &quot;Athletic Department&quot; problem only.

&quot;Ross, who bought a condo in chapel hill for his convenience in watching unc bb games, asked a UNC Law grad to review the review of the UNC chancellor.

Thorp said athletes (a 4% population) accounted for 64% of the enrollments in phony classes;The 2005 champ bb team all majored in afam and took 15 enrollments in fake classes that year alone;The 2009 team took 23 enrollments in the fake classes;Private fake classes were set up for 2 stars on the 2009 team;And 4 AD officials lied about reporting the fraud to the faculty.

ALL evidence points to athletics being the beneficiary of the fraud.NO other possible explanation has even been thrown out on the table.

Yet their conclusion is: athletics is the one thing it's not about, though we don't have a clue what it IS about. Non-UNC grads just aren't smart enough to get it....&quot;

Another probe today cleared the athletic department once again! With a beat down coming to State in Durham tonight and the Carolina basketball team continuing to be proven innocent my guess is that domestic violence will be at a all-time high in Raleigh tonight. #theresalwaysnextyear

— Posted by larrys080 .v1

WHOA! Not so fast, my friend!

First of all, it's funny how they declare this to not be about athletics, in the face of all the evidence to the contrary.

Secondly, here's something for you to think about if you think this case is closed:

The FUNNIEST part about all this, is that we all (every last one of us) already knows this to be the case. It's just a matter of proving it. Michael McAdoo is singing like a canary. And I suspect he is not the only one that will before this is said and done. The best part is, this is far, far, far from over. The academic side is not liking being made the scapegoat in this. I believe there is a mole still talking to Dan Kane, and there is plenty more to come. This is some fun stuff, isn't it! :)

Another probe today cleared the athletic department once again! With a beat down coming to State in Durham tonight and the Carolina basketball team continuing to be proven innocent my guess is that domestic violence will be at a all-time high in Raleigh tonight. #theresalwaysnextyear

perhaps this explains why the media and the NCAA seem to ignore what goes on at UNCHEAT on and off the court.............

MiltonroadwarriorCharlotte, NCNYT Pick

Richard, You should know that UNCCH is the tail that wags the dog in north carolina politics. They control every aspect of our government (they being the big money handlers who have paid their way into positions of influence). The Atlantic Coast Conference commissioner is the ex-athletic director at UNCCH. The first representative from the NCAA to supposedly investigate UNCCH is an ex-football player from UNCCH. The head of ESPN is a UNCCH grad. The Nike corporation has a massive financial tie to UNCCH.

In other words, UNCCH basically owns every entity who would dare to question their ethics, integrity or motives. Bravo, UNCCH! Not since Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall have we seen such a sophisticated political and financial machine put into motion! Bravo!

— Posted by wolvesrback

What is the best way to ignore something, according to WOLVESRBACK? Start a thread about it! LOL!

— Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

Im not talking about everybody else ignoring iy you lame brain but all the UNCHEATERS ignoring all the issues that have fallen upon UNCHEAT. How's it feel to know that you just didn't have a player take some money or a booster do something wrong but the actual school help set up phony courses to help keep your illiterate recruits eligible to play. Stay tuned. Not conspiracy. Just cold hard facts. I know it pains you.

perhaps this explains why the media and the NCAA seem to ignore what goes on at UNCHEAT on and off the court.............

MiltonroadwarriorCharlotte, NCNYT Pick

Richard, You should know that UNCCH is the tail that wags the dog in north carolina politics. They control every aspect of our government (they being the big money handlers who have paid their way into positions of influence). The Atlantic Coast Conference commissioner is the ex-athletic director at UNCCH. The first representative from the NCAA to supposedly investigate UNCCH is an ex-football player from UNCCH. The head of ESPN is a UNCCH grad. The Nike corporation has a massive financial tie to UNCCH.

In other words, UNCCH basically owns every entity who would dare to question their ethics, integrity or motives. Bravo, UNCCH! Not since Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall have we seen such a sophisticated political and financial machine put into motion! Bravo!

— Posted by wolvesrback

What is the best way to ignore something, according to WOLVESRBACK? Start a thread about it! LOL!

— Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

Im not talking about everybody else ignoring iy you lame brain but all the UNCHEATERS ignoring all the issues that have fallen upon UNCHEAT. How's it feel to know that you just didn't have a player take some money or a booster do something wrong but the actual school help set up phony courses to help keep your illiterate recruits eligible to play. Stay tuned. Not conspiracy. Just cold hard facts. I know it pains you.

perhaps this explains why the media and the NCAA seem to ignore what goes on at UNCHEAT on and off the court.............

MiltonroadwarriorCharlotte, NCNYT Pick

Richard, You should know that UNCCH is the tail that wags the dog in north carolina politics. They control every aspect of our government (they being the big money handlers who have paid their way into positions of influence). The Atlantic Coast Conference commissioner is the ex-athletic director at UNCCH. The first representative from the NCAA to supposedly investigate UNCCH is an ex-football player from UNCCH. The head of ESPN is a UNCCH grad. The Nike corporation has a massive financial tie to UNCCH.

In other words, UNCCH basically owns every entity who would dare to question their ethics, integrity or motives. Bravo, UNCCH! Not since Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall have we seen such a sophisticated political and financial machine put into motion! Bravo!

— Posted by wolvesrback

What is the best way to ignore something, according to WOLVESRBACK? Start a thread about it! LOL!

— Posted by Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer

Im not talking about everybody else ignoring iy you lame brain but all the UNCHEATERS ignoring all the issues that have fallen upon UNCHEAT. How's it feel to know that you just didn't have a player take some money or a booster do something wrong but the actual school help set up phony courses to help keep your illiterate recruits eligible to play. Stay tuned. Not conspiracy. Just cold hard facts. I know it pains you.

Actually, I think we have plenty of glory. Ranked top 30 in the preseason, coming off an 8-win season, and about to haul in a top 25 recruiting class....despite being on probation and not being able to go to a bowl last year. Times are good!

perhaps this explains why the media and the NCAA seem to ignore what goes on at UNCHEAT on and off the court.............

MiltonroadwarriorCharlotte, NCNYT Pick

Richard, You should know that UNCCH is the tail that wags the dog in north carolina politics. They control every aspect of our government (they being the big money handlers who have paid their way into positions of influence). The Atlantic Coast Conference commissioner is the ex-athletic director at UNCCH. The first representative from the NCAA to supposedly investigate UNCCH is an ex-football player from UNCCH. The head of ESPN is a UNCCH grad. The Nike corporation has a massive financial tie to UNCCH.

In other words, UNCCH basically owns every entity who would dare to question their ethics, integrity or motives. Bravo, UNCCH! Not since Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall have we seen such a sophisticated political and financial machine put into motion! Bravo!

— Posted by wolvesrback

What is the best way to ignore something, according to WOLVESRBACK? Start a thread about it! LOL!

Actually, I think we have plenty of glory. Ranked top 30 in the preseason, coming off an 8-win season, and about to haul in a top 25 recruiting class....despite being on probation and not being able to go to a bowl last year. Times are good!

Actually, I think we have plenty of glory. Ranked top 30 in the preseason, coming off an 8-win season, and about to haul in a top 25 recruiting class....despite being on probation and not being able to go to a bowl last year. Times are good!

Oh no, we couldn't go to a bowl last year. Bummer. We still finished on top of our division. LOL!

— Posted by chapelthrillv2

NO Banner = NO Glory

sorry, pansy :)

It hurts me, to see you hurt.

— Posted by Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy

Actually, I think we have plenty of glory. Ranked top 30 in the preseason, coming off an 8-win season, and about to haul in a top 25 recruiting class....despite being on probation and not being able to go to a bowl last year. Times are good!

perhaps this explains why the media and the NCAA seem to ignore what goes on at UNCHEAT on and off the court.............

MiltonroadwarriorCharlotte, NCNYT Pick

Richard, You should know that UNCCH is the tail that wags the dog in north carolina politics. They control every aspect of our government (they being the big money handlers who have paid their way into positions of influence). The Atlantic Coast Conference commissioner is the ex-athletic director at UNCCH. The first representative from the NCAA to supposedly investigate UNCCH is an ex-football player from UNCCH. The head of ESPN is a UNCCH grad. The Nike corporation has a massive financial tie to UNCCH.

In other words, UNCCH basically owns every entity who would dare to question their ethics, integrity or motives. Bravo, UNCCH! Not since Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall have we seen such a sophisticated political and financial machine put into motion! Bravo!

Alll this debate is pretty good but its to be expected how the uncheats sure havent come on here to "defend" the original post. If they had to play by the same rules as everyone else that would be interesting to see if they could win anything. Yea. Thats the kerolina way.

— Posted by wolvesrback

Conspiracy theories got you down again? Midol might help baby girl!

— Posted by larrys080 .v1

in football as in life, there's the haves and the have nots. the HEELS are the haves.

Alll this debate is pretty good but its to be expected how the uncheats sure havent come on here to "defend" the original post. If they had to play by the same rules as everyone else that would be interesting to see if they could win anything. Yea. Thats the kerolina way.

perhaps this explains why the media and the NCAA seem to ignore what goes on at UNCHEAT on and off the court.............

MiltonroadwarriorCharlotte, NCNYT Pick

Richard, You should know that UNCCH is the tail that wags the dog in north carolina politics. They control every aspect of our government (they being the big money handlers who have paid their way into positions of influence). The Atlantic Coast Conference commissioner is the ex-athletic director at UNCCH. The first representative from the NCAA to supposedly investigate UNCCH is an ex-football player from UNCCH. The head of ESPN is a UNCCH grad. The Nike corporation has a massive financial tie to UNCCH.

In other words, UNCCH basically owns every entity who would dare to question their ethics, integrity or motives. Bravo, UNCCH! Not since Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall have we seen such a sophisticated political and financial machine put into motion! Bravo!

— Posted by wolvesrback

Correct! A one year bowl ban and a slap on the wrist is as bad as its EVER going to get at Carolina! At the end of the day the power brokers with these various organizations probably wanted to challenge even that since this was a academic issue and not a athletic issue.