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Re: Pacers/Magic Postgame Thread 1/16/13

I didn't see the game, but if he's cheaper and makes less, then surely we'd call that a bargain.

JMO, but it seems to Josh has the BRush attitude. When he wants to play, he can be very effective, then he just disappears for a quarter or a game or a half season.I thought he ran out of gas after hhe had played 1/2 a quarter. Never have understood him and his seeming lack of effort, but yeah, he's worth 3 million

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Re: Pacers/Magic Postgame Thread 1/16/13

I put the majority of this loss on Hibbert, he should dominate a team with little interior presence. The rest of the problem appeared to be fatigue and bad offense toppled with bad passing and shooting. Again, when the offense gets into a funk like this and a team as weak in the paint as Orlando, Hibbert has to step up and keep the offensive pressure going, but he doesn't have the physical ability to do so. Very sad to see him decline from last year when he gets paid so much.

Garbage players get 1st round picks, (WTF)! All of the NBA must hate the Pacers! LOL

Re: Pacers/Magic Postgame Thread 1/16/13

I didn't realize it was the Pacers 4th game in 5 nights and 6 games in 9 nights. Dare I say schedule loss.

Plus the Magic played very well in the game after the Wizards blew them out.

Combine that with the fact that we had to run and gun just one night before, due to the Bobcats Full Court Pressure Defense. We just looked tired. Physically and mentally. Not to mention chasing Reddick and Afflalo around the court as they ducked in and out of traffic. Perfect storm for disaster.

Many of the passes that were intercepted were careless mental mistakes caused by extreme fatigue we wouldn't have typically made. Great Point though

Re: Pacers/Magic Postgame Thread 1/16/13

I put the majority of this loss on Hibbert, he should dominate a team with little interior presence. The rest of the problem appeared to be fatigue and bad offense toppled with bad passing and shooting. Again, when the offense gets into a funk like this and a team as weak in the paint as Orlando, Hibbert has to step up and keep the offensive pressure going, but he doesn't have the physical ability to do so. Very sad to see him decline from last year when he gets paid so much.

I do agree with you there.

First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.

Re: Pacers/Magic Postgame Thread 1/16/13

I expected this loss but I hoped that our guys were going to prove me wrong. It didn't happen, though

Anyway, I have no reason to be mad at them. The playbook that the Magic use is our big weakness. I expect Vogel to find a way to nullify that weakness

This. the defense has been designed to stop the easy shot inside. Shooting 57% from 3 makes THAT the "easy shot", and it is MUCH more difficult to defend simply because passing is faster than any possible quick rotation.

I can't think of a team in the league that wouldn't be vulnerable to an offense shooting nearly 60% from 3 without being able to score at will themselves, and that certainly doesn't describe the Pacers offense.

I will say, though, this is a game where having Danny would have made a HUGE difference to the offense.

BillS

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...

Re: Pacers/Magic Postgame Thread 1/16/13

I put the majority of this loss on Hibbert, he should dominate a team with little interior presence. The rest of the problem appeared to be fatigue and bad offense toppled with bad passing and shooting. Again, when the offense gets into a funk like this and a team as weak in the paint as Orlando, Hibbert has to step up and keep the offensive pressure going, but he doesn't have the physical ability to do so. Very sad to see him decline from last year when he gets paid so much.

Let's sing another song boys!
this one's grown old and bitter,

So Long And Thanks For All The Fish.

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Then why not have Breakfast at Milliways!

Re: Pacers/Magic Postgame Thread 1/16/13

Gerald Green is currently 29.4% from the 3-point line, why won't the he stop, I am sure, they get stat-sheets of their performance, yet he continues to shoot at-least 3 (3 pointers) a game.

He has a shooters mentality. I also get upset that he's not hitting 3's and wish he'd shoot more coming off screens and drives. Then like Quinn says shooters shoot. Thus Green shoots. His 3 are usually good shots, but he's going thru a stretch where he just can't hit the red side of a barn. It's frustrating to watch him miss 3 after 3.

OTOH, no one complained when he was shooting 3's proficiently. Hopefully, it will even out.

I can truly say I have never missed McDud being a Pacer, nor do I feel he's better than Hans. Then I won't cry if Tyler isn't here next year either. At these stats for both, it won't be hard to find a b/u PF.

Oh btw, it would be nice if the forementioned PF could at least get 1 reb for the Magic last nite. Isn't that what a PF is suppose to do?

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Re: Pacers/Magic Postgame Thread 1/16/13

I know this is a weak argument but it kind of goes along with Uncle Buck's number of games in limited nights thought.

To us this was just another game, a game that was one of many in a limited time frame.

However I have a sneaky suspicion that this game has been circled on Orlando's calender since we ousted them from the playoffs last season. In other words this was a statement game for them and to us it was just a game.

Like I said weak excuse but I think it is there nonetheless.

I'm not really worried about this loss other than the fact that it is a loss & we are really going up against some top notch teams here in the next few weeks so that w/l record may not look as snazzy as it does now in a few weeks.

BTW, I know I should be a bigger person about this but I just hate Glenn Davis & his childish antics. When he did that stupid dance after he got the ball to rim in I wanted West to elbow him in the back of the head when he was bent over. What a punk.

Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

I can truly say I have never missed McDud being a Pacer, nor do I feel he's better than Hans. Then I won't cry if Tyler isn't here next year either. At these stats for both, it won't be hard to find a b/u PF.

Oh btw, it would be nice if the forementioned PF could at least get 1 reb for the Magic last nite. Isn't that what a PF is suppose to do?

This is some really strange cherry picking to try to make an argument, but more than anything I can't believe this McNickname thing is still a thing.

Re: Pacers/Magic Postgame Thread 1/16/13

I love the great "D" the Pacers play, but I wish they had a better offensive game to go along with it. You have to score points to win if you don't it makes it hard to win. This team as of right now IMO can't win a 2 series in the playoffs. They don't have enough offense to do it against good playoff teams.

Hopefully, things will change when Granger starts playing. If he can't bring an offensive punch to this team, this team won't go far in the playoffs unless another player or 2, Hibbert, Stephenson, Green, or Augustin game picks up.

I'll say it now that this coming draft and off season is paramount to where this team will be going in the future. The Pacers next game is the halfway of the season, and some players need to pick up their game or find their game. A half season is plently long enough to get their act together. No excuse of not having a training camp or not enough games played to get things sorted out. It's time for some to grab a hold of their boot straps and pull themselves up for their sake but more importantly for the sake of the TEAM. You know the name on the front of the jersey you wear. IOW, do the job you are being paid to do with no excuses!

Re: Pacers/Magic Postgame Thread 1/16/13

IBTW, I know I should be a bigger person about this but I just hate Glenn Davis & his childish antics. When he did that stupid dance after he got the ball to rim in I wanted West to elbow him in the back of the head when he was bent over. What a punk.

I usually just ignore his antics or any other players antics - usually doesn't bother me. If a guy makes a good play, he deserves some credit and it is up to the Pacers to stop a player from making a good play and then there would be no reason for any celebrations.

However, last night was different and I had the same type of feelings you did. West was right there next to him and for a split second I wanted West to knock him to the floor. But then I was glad he didn't. Wish the refs had called a T on Big baby though. Still wish West would have done soemthing to him while making it look accidental.

I hadn't even thought about the Magic having this game as a big game because of the playoffs, the Magic are so different now it slipped my mind.

Re: Pacers/Magic Postgame Thread 1/16/13

I usually just ignore his antics or any other players antics - usually doesn't bother me. If a guy makes a good play, he deserves some credit and it is up to the Pacers to stop a player from making a good play and then there would be no reason for any celebrations.

However, last night was different and I had the same type of feelings you did. West was right there next to him and for a split second I wanted West to knock him to the floor. But then I was glad he didn't. Wish the refs had called a T on Big baby though. Still wish West would have done soemthing to him while making it look accidental.

I hadn't even thought about the Magic having this game as a big game because of the playoffs, the Magic are so different now it slipped my mind.

I call what Davis did taunting. Obviously, the refs didn't consider it taunting. Stephenson, IMO, has been given a tech for doing much less.

Re: Pacers/Magic Postgame Thread 1/16/13

Besides, Jameer, Redick, and Baby, none of Orlando's contributors last night were even on the Magic for the playoffs last year. I doubt the fact that we eliminated them last year played any role at all.