I said it is my opinion that the statistics or figures should be correlated against hospital figures.

One could argue that hospital figure's are just another batch of statistics for you to be suspicious of.

Can you prove that the official figures are correct...

Weeell, you've already pointed out that politicians are not above fabricating that information.

why are you arguing this point - when you don't have the first idea about UK culture and current trends.

I can and I agree with him, does that help?

"So, yeah, Zen teachers may well insult you, work you to the bone, hit you with sticks, shout verbal abuse at you, and punch the **** out of you.
And when the ****'s been punched out of you, you might just find that you're far better-off without it." - Vieux Normand

"You entered the lions' den. Don't bitch if you get eaten." - danniboi07

"Needless to say, it's much easier to clear a bunch of drunk kids out of your house when you're yelling GTFO and carrying a samurai sword." - DerAuslander

"Eventually, I realized it doesn't matter what art you train, what matters is the method in which you train. Training in an alive manner, under skilled and qualified instruction, is the single most important aspect of gaining martial skill. All else is window dressing." - JNP : Saying it how it is!

Im posting outline groundwork to suggest my point.
I said it is my opinion that the statistics or figures should be correlated against hospital figures.
Can you prove that the official figures are correct...

Fine.

Then again they would still be flawed so, we use what is the most reputable. Do I need explain why hospital statistics would be flawed?

why are you arguing this point - when you don't have the first idea about UK culture and current trends.

Uhhmmm that is a major failure, at discussion, on your part. I'm not arguing for or against anything at all. I'm arguing YOUR rules of discussion.

You set the rules and you are now trying to change them

The post quoted earlier by myself and Jing shows your stance.

What this does is, let us know that you will refute any statistics, articles or videos that DON'T FIT YOUR DEFINITION.

Then you turn around and post what you feel is good evidence. Which would be fine except you said newspapers (your first source) are ****. You also say statistics (your second source) are ****.

So, I'm attacking the basis for your argument which, has nothing to do with UK society, laws, or culture.

"So, yeah, Zen teachers may well insult you, work you to the bone, hit you with sticks, shout verbal abuse at you, and punch the **** out of you.
And when the ****'s been punched out of you, you might just find that you're far better-off without it." - Vieux Normand

"You entered the lions' den. Don't bitch if you get eaten." - danniboi07

"Needless to say, it's much easier to clear a bunch of drunk kids out of your house when you're yelling GTFO and carrying a samurai sword." - DerAuslander

"Eventually, I realized it doesn't matter what art you train, what matters is the method in which you train. Training in an alive manner, under skilled and qualified instruction, is the single most important aspect of gaining martial skill. All else is window dressing." - JNP : Saying it how it is!

I told the guy to do some research for himself - I pointed out a few web articles that provide a link in to this subject.....

how can I provide evidence when I'm telling you the evidence availible is flawed....

Because your opinion had to be formed based on SOMETHING.

One example might be those three encounters you claim you had. We've asked for the details yet you refused to provide them. You could still tell us now and that would be nice.

However, it still wouldn't back up your claims. Yes, it does make things difficult. You, being a single person, would not be enough to change our opinion of your local environment. You could be regarded as an interesting case study of a person who has terrible bad luck, but you could not be used to represent the entire community.

So, until you can provide evidence proving the published articles wrong, that also is applicable to a large group of people, your argument has failed.

quote=Errant108]SinnerSaint, shut the **** up because you don't know what you're talking about.[/quote]
Happened to me at the light at 2 no hashi . Sure you know where that is right?(errant?..yes).
Conversation started cuz he saw me riding my bike with no helmet at night. If you know those guys typical past,you know why seeing me made him smile and call me over.
Also, fact is that parking is expensive ($300-600 in that area), often crowded, and there are advantages to NOT
having your car parked telling people where you are.
Don't know or care who you are:5badair: but I spent a lot of time in Kabukicho learning
japanese on the street from THEM and a lot of time fixing the bad habits I learned . Also worked for them twice legally and didn't know it. 1nce legally and did know it. Don't know why you would have that reaction to reality.
I tend to be exposed to both light and dark sides of wherever I go so it's normal to me.
Oh, and internet fighting is the ultimate BULLSHIDO:jerkit2yf

SinnerSaint, shut the **** up because you don't know what you're talking about.

Happened to me at the light at 2 no hashi . Sure you know where that is right?(errant?..yes).
Conversation started cuz he saw me riding my bike with no helmet at night. If you know those guys typical past,you know why seeing me made him smile and call me over.
Also, fact is that parking is expensive ($300-600 in that area), often crowded, and there are advantages to NOT
having your car parked telling people where you are. Don't know or care who you are:5badair: but I spent a lot of time in Kabukicho learning
japanese on the street from THEM and a lot of time fixing the bad habits I learned . Also worked for them twice legally and didn't know it. 1nce legally and did know it. Don't know why you would have that reaction to reality.
I tend to be exposed to both light and dark sides of wherever I go so it's normal to me.
Oh, and internet fighting is the ultimate BULLSHIDO:jerkit2yf

He told you to shutup because Choson Ninja is claiming KOREAN MOB ties. No, Korean language is not the same as Japanese. Their culture and society is also different. So, this whole little rant is really stupid.

I think Choson Ninja is 100% Korean since his last name is Park.朴
And his way of thinking is typical Korean nationalist.
It's common for Korean family to immigrate to America through Japan.
Little Tokyo in SF has been taken over by Koreans too.