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Re: The Former Player Thread

Tyler almost got in a fight with Anderson. I wonder what Tyler did to **** him off. It was like Anderson went out of his way to be offended by Tyler rebounding a shot with no one around. I want to see these two fight.

Could be the Malone-Rodman of our time. I say we get MMA guys for the tag teams this time through.

Re: The Former Player Thread

Gerald Green is alive and well in the desert. His second straight game with five or more threes on 50% or better shooting (21-point and 18-point efforts). Unfortunately, he still has more turnovers than assists on the season.

They've got to feel pretty good about the Scola trade. Both guys producing for them.

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They've got to feel pretty good about the Scola trade. Both guys producing for them.

Green is the perfect tank player; fun to watch, can put up stats, but at the same time doesn't help his team win games. Plumlee is nice since he's more NBA-ready than Alex Len, so Miles can start in the meantime while Len is recovering/developing. Our 1st, although it'll be low, should still net a nice player in a deep draft. So yeah, Phoenix really did come out nice in that trade for what they're going for right now.

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Green is the perfect tank player; fun to watch, can put up stats, but at the same time doesn't help his team win games. Plumlee is nice since he's more NBA-ready than Alex Len, so Miles can start in the meantime while Len is recovering/developing. Our 1st, although it'll be low, should still net a nice player in a deep draft. So yeah, Phoenix really did come out nice in that trade for what they're going for right now.

They're winning some games early on.

I don't think Green is nearly as bad as he seemed here, he's just the type of player that needs to play in an up tempo offense, while being set up by other players. He's looked consistently good on the suns this far.

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I don't think Green is nearly as bad as he seemed here, he's just the type of player that needs to play in an up tempo offense, while being set up by other players. He's looked consistently good on the suns this far.

Agreed. We just never utilized him correctly here.

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Re: The Former Player Thread

I don't think Green is nearly as bad as he seemed here, he's just the type of player that needs to play in an up tempo offense, while being set up by other players. He's looked consistently good on the suns this far.

I agree. When you rely on Gerald Green "the jump shooter" it will drive you crazy, just like what he was as a Pacer. When you rely on Gerald Green "the interior operator" you're getting more production out of him. His last game's stat line shows that with him struggling with his outside shot at 1/5 but still managed to finish with 6/12 from the field.

Re: The Former Player Thread

I agree. When you rely on Gerald Green "the jump shooter" it will drive you crazy, just like what he was as a Pacer. When you rely on Gerald Green "the interior operator" you're getting more production out of him. His last game's stat line shows that with him struggling with his outside shot at 1/5 but still managed to finish with 6/12 from the field.

He's mainly been a jump shooter for them though. He's been the beneficiary of a lot of drive and kick ball, and quality transition looks, which though they may go down as spot up jumpers like the looks he got last year, they come in an entirely different rhythm. Frankly the main difference between then and now is that he's hitting his shots and his jumper no longer looks as broken as it did last year, seems more like NJ Green. The better system fit is definitely helping though.

Plumlee's been really impressive as well, awesome on the glass, solid hands, finishes well, and has even shown the ability to create a bit for himself and hit an open mid range jumper. The quicker pace and drive and dish play style definitely seems to suit him better as well.

Re: The Former Player Thread

I definitely thought Plumlee's stats at the beginning of the season were a major fluke, but I have to give him some major props for keeping it up. I never would have dreamed he could play like this and was completely wrong about him. He wouldn't be getting this opportunity on the Pacers this year, so I'm glad for his sake that he is in an environment where he can thrive. Good for him.

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The Pacers developed Miles. All you've got to do is watch him try Roy's hook and the way he defends the rim to realize that.

Which might be another thread topic, about how great the Pacers are about developing talent. Roy/PG/Lance/Miles/OJ. The list just keeps getting longer and longer.

EDIT: PHX was even surprised about how well Miles looked when he came to their camp.

seven games this preseason, spanning 130 minutes, Plumlee managed 32 rebounds, second only to Marcin Gortat and Markieff Morris, and eight blocks, which trailed only Gortat among Suns players.
"Miles has been terrific," Babby said. "You know, rebounding the ball, blocking shots, running the floor. I think that he was a very pleasant surprise."

Babby later explained how general manager Ryan McDonough targeted Plumlee, who spent his rookie season with the Indiana Pacers, as a player who would fit the team's needs.
"Ryan saw it in summer league," Babby said of McDonough's trip to Orlando to scout.

Re: The Former Player Thread

He's mainly been a jump shooter for them though. He's been the beneficiary of a lot of drive and kick ball, and quality transition looks, which though they may go down as spot up jumpers like the looks he got last year, they come in an entirely different rhythm. Frankly the main difference between then and now is that he's hitting his shots and his jumper no longer looks as broken as it did last year, seems more like NJ Green. The better system fit is definitely helping though.

Plumlee's been really impressive as well, awesome on the glass, solid hands, finishes well, and has even shown the ability to create a bit for himself and hit an open mid range jumper. The quicker pace and drive and dish play style definitely seems to suit him better as well.

Haven't watched the whole game though, but the last Phoenix game I saw most of his made shots are closer to the basket, and had more highlight plays at this time of the year than last year. So I'm guessing that on most games he's pretty much less of a jump shooter and more of an inside player slashing and cutting and just getting those points closer to the basket.

As for Miles, I'm pretty impressed. Just going from a player who can't even get consistent garbage time to a really solid starting center is really impressive. Just a win-win trade for us and the Suns, following up from a win-win trade with the Spurs from several years back.