You would think but having done it here in California my DMV was a nightmare.

Had to call the Tech Line

Check in the Tech/ Archive - one of our Michigan Members wrote up a good article on all that you need.

Taking your car over is different now than the thing I wrote up. Call the crossing and ask both sides what you would need to do. As far as buying a car and bringing it back, depends on if you are personally bringing it back or hiring someone to do it. Hiring requires a broker and fees. Personal is free and easier. That year is DOT and EPA exempt, so you just need to fill out papers at the border, a bill of sale, and a value. No taxes or fees collected by US Customs, but may be by the state when you register it. They will give you a DOT, EPA, and CBP Form 7501 to take to the DMV to register the car.

Just had a long conversation with a guy (Canadian) who sold his car at Carlisle last summer. The car was displayed and sold at Carlisle but had to come back into Canada to have all the paperwork done before being taken back into the US.

He said that a broker was a requirement because the car falls under the category of "commercial goods". Besides that, the broker knows all the ins and outs and is worth the money. That's to sell the car into the US. I don't think "trade" is used in the equation, as far as either side is concerned you're buying the car.

Trade, sell, gift, it's all the same process. The one sold at Carlisle had to go back to Canada because it needs to be either imported at the border with paperwork or a temporary importation bond if he my sell it in the US. TIB cost money and are a pain if you're not sure if it's going to sell. Commercial is when someone hauls it into the US for you. If you pick it up and bring it back yourself, it's personal and no broker needed.

Trade, sell, gift, it's all the same process. The one sold at Carlisle had to go back to Canada because it needs to be either imported at the border with paperwork or a temporary importation bond if he my sell it in the US. TIB cost money and are a pain if you're not sure if it's going to sell. Commercial is when someone hauls it into the US for you. If you pick it up and bring it back yourself, it's personal and no broker needed.

Thanks for all the information. Yeh it would be two separate transactions - no money changing hands but the value would be stated on the forms. I would have to pay GST to "import" the car. But I think I would get that back after I pay NY state tax on the value of the vehicle at time of registration and claw back the GST. I "think" it's 5% but I will have to check.

I think though the guy buying my car would have to pay that and another 8% in tax/import fees.

Instead of a one for one trade it'll cost close to 4 grand combined paid to both the governments for the pleasure of driving just another old car.

If he bought my car outright with the exchange rate and the import fees it would 40% above the USD purchase price..yikes,

Thanks again

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Dean
Got my hands on the wheel, foot to the pedal, gonna drive this car till the tires turn to metal - gonna sleep when I'm dead and laugh at the devil..

I knew this guy named Dean that used to drive cool Mopars all the time, A12's and other assorted Road Runners and Super Bees around the Buffalo area....whatever happened to that guy?

You don't have to pay the Ontario taxes. Make sure you get a good bill of sale and the "ownership". The is pretty similar to a New York State registration and that is our "Title" and "Registration" built into one.

I would phone the border crossings too on the American side to see which would be the best to cross at. I am thinking Queenston.

I knew this guy named Dean that used to drive cool Mopars all the time, A12's and other assorted Road Runners and Super Bees around the Buffalo area....whatever happened to that guy?

You don't have to pay the Ontario taxes. Make sure you get a good bill of sale and the "ownership". The is pretty similar to a New York State registration and that is our "Title" and "Registration" built into one.

I would phone the border crossings too on the American side to see which would be the best to cross at. I am thinking Queenston.

Dave

Hey Dave - yeh I loved Super Bees before they were cool, but I got priced out the market - one misstep and I'm on the street no house walking the dog m*f*r. Lol. But I'll get back to the mopar world. Thanks for the info. I thought I would have to pay something at the border and try to get reimbursed. This helps.

But the guy bringing my car will be a costly affair. We'll see what happens - these border guys can make your life uncomfortable if you don't follow the rules.,

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Dean
Got my hands on the wheel, foot to the pedal, gonna drive this car till the tires turn to metal - gonna sleep when I'm dead and laugh at the devil..

All the US cares about is the person who bought it in Canada is with it and makes it personal. If they US owner isn't with it, it's commercial. I see cars getting swapped in trailers in local lots all the time. Less hassle for all involved.

All the US cares about is the person who bought it in Canada is with it and makes it personal. If they US owner isn't with it, it's commercial. I see cars getting swapped in trailers in local lots all the time. Less hassle for all involved.

Gotcha. I would have to call them ahead of time - a couple of weeks and have a couple of forms ready like the EPA/Safety forms and have them signed "exempt" and make sure the underside is clean and fill out a form at the border patrol office.

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Dean
Got my hands on the wheel, foot to the pedal, gonna drive this car till the tires turn to metal - gonna sleep when I'm dead and laugh at the devil..