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Police should be harassing badly behaved youths by openly filming them and hounding them at home to make their lives as uncomfortable as possible, the home secretary will say today.

The crime initiative is part of a government strategy to win back voters by proposing more radical approaches to tackling deep seated problems.

In a speech in London the home secretary, Jacqui Smith, will acknowledge that the number of antisocial behaviour orders being issued is falling, but will argue that there has been a shift to the use of parental orders instead.

As part of the crackdown on bad behaviour, she will urge police forces across the country to follow the example of Essex police, who have mounted four-day "frame and shame" operations by filming and repeatedly stopping identified persistent offenders on problem estates.

It's fairly obvious, even to the likes of myself, that these four-day bursts of activity are likely to be difficult to sustain, so this must be a poorly thought out exercise in spin at best. Why do they even bother?

LE

Police should be harassing badly behaved youths by openly filming them and hounding them at home to make their lives as uncomfortable as possible, the home secretary will say today.

The crime initiative is part of a government strategy to win back voters by proposing more radical approaches to tackling deep seated problems.

In a speech in London the home secretary, Jacqui Smith, will acknowledge that the number of antisocial behaviour orders being issued is falling, but will argue that there has been a shift to the use of parental orders instead.

As part of the crackdown on bad behaviour, she will urge police forces across the country to follow the example of Essex police, who have mounted four-day "frame and shame" operations by filming and repeatedly stopping identified persistent offenders on problem estates.

It's fairly obvious, even to the likes of myself, that these four-day bursts of activity are likely to be difficult to sustain, so this must be a poorly thought out exercise in spin at best. Why do they even bother?

A lovely idea...which will last until some worthless little sh1tbag claims his "human rights" are being violated. At which point the Gub'mint will panic like an Austrian girl watching her father dig a new cellar.

LE

Agreed - I couldn't help wondering whether, had Boris Johnson suggested this approach during the election campaign, Ms Smith would've been on every BBC news programme denouncing his cavalier disregard for the human rights of youths with the Grauniad producing a trenchant leader article suggesting that Boris wasn't fit to be mayor of London because of his reactionary attitudes to the young....

Police should be harassing badly behaved youths by openly filming them and hounding them at home to make their lives as uncomfortable as possible, the home secretary will say today.

The crime initiative is part of a government strategy to win back voters by proposing more radical approaches to tackling deep seated problems.

In a speech in London the home secretary, Jacqui Smith, will acknowledge that the number of antisocial behaviour orders being issued is falling, but will argue that there has been a shift to the use of parental orders instead.

As part of the crackdown on bad behaviour, she will urge police forces across the country to follow the example of Essex police, who have mounted four-day "frame and shame" operations by filming and repeatedly stopping identified persistent offenders on problem estates.

It's fairly obvious, even to the likes of myself, that these four-day bursts of activity are likely to be difficult to sustain, so this must be a poorly thought out exercise in spin at best. Why do they even bother?

A lovely idea...which will last until some worthless little sh1tbag claims his "human rights" are being violated. At which point the Gub'mint will panic like an Austrian girl watching her father dig a new cellar.

ADC

Agreed - I couldn't help wondering whether, had Boris Johnson suggested this approach during the election campaign, Ms Smith would've been on every BBC news programme denouncing his cavalier disregard for the human rights of youths with the Grauniad producing a trenchant leader article suggesting that Boris wasn't fit to be mayor of London because of his reactionary attitudes to the young....

I'm not entirely sure that Mr Johnson didn't suggest something of this kind, lets face it Liarbore are not averse to nicking other peoples ideas if they think they can get a few votes out of it. I would be suprised if Ms Smith has had an original policy idea during the whole of her political career.

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I think the police have enough to do with out Jacqui Smith coming out with the frame and shame project .
You will have the kids next suing the police under the Human Rights Act for being Abused by the police .

LE

IMHO the police should not harrass anyone.., they should be arresting them if they have appeared to have committed a crime.

I have noticed in my local area that the issuance of ASBOs has been decreasing.. replaced by "Behavior contracts" or such like.. which have no penalty if the scrote concerned breaches them.. so if the scrotes dont abide by ASBOs which have some kind of penalty the why on earth can we expect the little darlings to abide by something to which there is no consequence?

ASBOs have become a substitution for criminal proceedings and the behaviour contracts are a substituition for ASBOs... Oh unless you drop an apple core

LE

It's very demoralising when I frequently hear that Govt. is trying to 'win back' voters with strategy. It gives me the impression that unless their backs are against the wall they are willing to do the minimal to get by. Don't we deserve their best efforts full term?

Police should be harassing badly behaved youths by openly filming them and hounding them at home to make their lives as uncomfortable as possible, the home secretary will say today.

The crime initiative is part of a government strategy to win back voters by proposing more radical approaches to tackling deep seated problems.

In a speech in London the home secretary, Jacqui Smith, will acknowledge that the number of antisocial behaviour orders being issued is falling, but will argue that there has been a shift to the use of parental orders instead.

As part of the crackdown on bad behaviour, she will urge police forces across the country to follow the example of Essex police, who have mounted four-day "frame and shame" operations by filming and repeatedly stopping identified persistent offenders on problem estates.

It's fairly obvious, even to the likes of myself, that these four-day bursts of activity are likely to be difficult to sustain, so this must be a poorly thought out exercise in spin at best. Why do they even bother?

A lovely idea...which will last until some worthless little sh1tbag claims his "human rights" are being violated. At which point the Gub'mint will panic like an Austrian girl watching her father dig a new cellar.

Spot on mate, big words from kebab woman but I can't see her backing us up if we did this. I saw the reporting on it when Essex did this job and it, in all fairness, had good results.

But like most police operations it can't be sustained for long, it requires officers trained in the use of camera and video equipment and also the tactic of following them. Both of which area a finite resource.

Personally my idea for harassment would be good. We'd hang around their estates masked up (instead of hoodies) sit on their walls drinking quadruple shot Starbucks, drive police cars at high speed doing handbrake turns outside their house (instead of blasting music play classical music through the PA), spray crime prevention advice on their walls, and if one of them comes out to complain baton them to death. But the killer blow would be, we'd do it from 0600hrs and all the way through the day, they'd be too tired to cause any hassle as they normally only get up for Jeremy Kyle before going back to bed for the rest of the day

LE

IMHO the police should not harrass anyone.., they should be arresting them if they have appeared to have committed a crime.

I have noticed in my local area that the issuance of ASBOs has been decreasing.. replaced by "Behavior contracts" or such like.. which have no penalty if the scrote concerned breaches them.. so if the scrotes dont abide by ASBOs which have some kind of penalty the why on earth can we expect the little darlings to abide by something to which there is no consequence?

ASBOs have become a substitution for criminal proceedings and the behaviour contracts are a substituition for ASBOs... Oh unless you drop an apple core