Sigma announces details of support program for full-price SD1 buyers

Sigma has announced details of the promised support scheme for customers who bought the company's SD1 DSLR prior to the price cut. Buyers of the SD1 at the original price of $6,899 can claim 40 'points' that can be redeemed against other Sigma products. The points are worth up to around ¥400,000 (roughly $4800) when used against Sigma products at their MSRP on the day the SD1 price cut was announced. Customers have until May 31st to register for the offer.

The offer is valid irrespective of where the camera was bought. SD1 Merrill buyers are not eligible for the program.

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I don't think Sigma's own DSLR-lenses are capable of yielding good images on the SD1. Almost every image I have seen from the SD1 have been soft and blurry in the corners. I think the DP1 and DP2 Merill cameras will be a completely different story. My DP2 is razor sharp all over.

Now that is what I call extensive customer support. Shows that Sigma does indeed care for people that buy their products. Some other companies should really take Sigma as an exmaple consideriung such issues.

Look up Sigma SA-300, SA-5, SA-7 and SA-9. It's not like the Sigma CEO woke up one day and thought: "Hey, let's make a DSLR!"

They seem to be doing quite well for themselves, and it also seems that when they decided to make SD-9, they made a conscious decision to choose a unique sensor rather than the commonly used Sony ICX413AQ or anything else.

They seem to be doing well enough to have been able to buy Foveon, after all.

I got a used Canon EOS-1 Ds from my uncle for free! How does that compare to your Nikon???Such comparisons do not hold water. Sigma management apparently made a serious blunder. However, the SD1 is what it is and if you want that specific sensor you will pay the price.

It's not technically possible to create an adapter for Canon (same flange distance) unless it also contained a teleconverter, Other DSLRs may be possible but the adapter would be extremely thin and be manual operation only.

FYI the Sigma mount is actually physically identical to the Canon EF mount, but uses a different electronic protocol so isn't compatible.

I still think the dumbest move they made was not releasing this camera with the option of Nikon or Canon mounts.

Many more people might have considered it if they had been able to do so without needing to buy Sigma lenses just to put on it - and the Nikon and Canon glass would usually outperform the Sigma glass so the results might have been even better.

R&D for the new sensor is a sunk cost, but manufacturing costs do affect the final price. SD1 had to have razor-thin margins. It now finally makes sense.Sigma sells thousands, not millions, of cameras. Note that they didn't make 15 megapixel versions of DP1 or DP2 until now -- they wouldn't sell at all.Time passed, development went on, and now Sigma is finally able to sell SD1 at sensible prices.Arguing for lower price of the original SD1 is simply daft. Especially if by a factor of ten. Maybe that's what it's worth to the mass market. But lowering the price would cause them to lose thousands on every camera sold, and if more people bought them, the sooner would Sigma go under.Sigma released the original SD1 as a matter of pride and ongoing support to those few photographers that have already heavily invested in Sigma gear.In that way, SD1 has fulfilled its role and I for one applaud Sigma for releasing it, more so now that they really show their support to long-time Sigma users.

It needs a canon mount so you can seamlessly use the much better L lenses with this excellent sensor. Sigma already uses a modified canon architecture for their firmware, I doubt that it'd be hard to get EF lenses to talk to it.

I had the opportunity to shoot with an SD1 for a month on loan. I shoot with a Canon 5D MK II and am very happy with it. However as a result of my experience with the SD1---I'm going to purchase one. Here is one of the images I shot with the SD1. http://www.pbase.com/garydmercer/image/141835496. It is one of many test shot images I posted from the SD1. It performed wonderfully with a prime 50mm prime lens. I love the build and the camera has one of the quietest silkiest shutters I've ever experienced in a DSLR. The SD1 is a success and the price drop was a good move by Sigma in addition to the support program for buyers who paid the higher price. Smart move Sigma!

Gary, all your SD1-images are only sharp in the center. The corners are all soft and out of focus and full of CA. Why is that? I suspect Sigma lenses are not able to do the SD1's sensor justice. Have you tried Leica R-lenses via an adapter?

What I meant was Sigma SD1 is never going to be a success because the company screwed up everything from the start with the ridiculous high price. In the mean time things have evolved a lot with so many new and professional options at a sane price.

This is way too late. Other new FF cameras, real FF cameras, are here. What was Sigma thinking when they released a camera at that price in the first place. and what is it thinking now? I don't know how much they researched market conditions, the economic climate, and photographers' needs and affordability. I am sure of just one thing, what it thinks of photographers' intelligence.

Given that the brand loyalists were the ones buying at the highest price it is a stand up move by Sigma--and nececessary one so as to not alienate these people. No move by Sigma is going to make everyone happy or feel 'whole' for the price drop, however, it is done. For me, I am interested in the new use of the sensor in the compact camera...but I will be wary of the price at release.

I think Sigma should do the really honest thing and refund the money they ripped off people IN CASH. None of this "as long as you buy more of our products" rubbish! This is dispicable. My opinion of Sigma has just hit rock bottom.

Those who purchased the camera at the original price were aware of what they were buying and of what the features were, and decided it was worth it. All electronics devalue, and a rapid price drop like this seems extreme, but is really no different. Getting a bonus of $4800 worth of lenses, accessories, cameras, whatever, is a pretty good deal for someone who bought this camera because they were satisfied with what they were getting at the original price.

If the people who bought the SD1 at the original price wanted their dollars more than that camera, then they would have kept them and not bought the camera. I don't think Sigma owes them anything, but since people will "feel" ripped off by it, it makes sense for them to offer something.

I think it's commendable that Sigma does this.You now have credit towards more Simga products and as a SD owner it has true value......very good move on Sigmas part overall.A ff Foveon would truly be impressive and I'm sure it's being considered.....good luck to Simga.

Sigma, try tu put on the market a affordable FF, and maybe you win the race at a affordable FF camera.Canon and Nikon have pretty nose prancing to take this step. Anyway, who buy a Sigma SD1 at this price tag of $6,899, when Nikon put a D4 for 6k, and a D800 for 3k, and Canon with 3.3k?

totally embarrassing for Sigma imo, those SD1s must be in a warehouse collecting layers of dust for them to slash prices like this, the original price was beyond wacko and so is this price cut totally beyond wacko again

Sigma is not large and as for the price, they simply could not miss by this much and have had some elaborate, clever plan. They goofed, plain and simple. They are also hobbled by their name (reputation) which, fairly or unfairly is not the best.

I wonder how many people actually bought the camera at its original price. I reckon not too many, because sales were so bad that they had to slash the price. The Foveon sensor is simply too small to be competitive. This camera has the biggest sensor Sigma has ever put in a DSLR, but it is still too small at 1.5x crop. Perhaps Sigma should explore the idea of a full frame Bayer sensor instead of sticking with the Foveon only strategy.

i admire foveon cos' which reproduce the colour pretty much like slide photo. i'm using leica m6, dp1 and dp2, i don't have any nikon and canon lenses, so i'm considering to buy this new sd1 while it's now drop to a reasonable price.

Some actually did. But your point is still valid - it was probably not many. So - this gesture costs less than its value for the company. It was a clever move. ---- You also have to understand that those that bought the cameras at full price was die hard fans and probably personally knows some at Sigma. Not giving this refund would maybe hav lost some faithful friends.

Good move by Sigma. They are putting their money where their mouth is. A lot of other companies should do this. As to who would buy this camera for $7000 well depends on what you wanted. Some people buy cameras for a specific output not a gazilion FPS and MP and being able to say ‘Me to.”

Thats a sensitive question. Some bought it a full price, but some probably got it at reduced price or even for free. And, for some reason, people are so silly that this fact matters. So - it is very hard to find out who really bought it. Several people that have an SD1 has fled the Sigma SLR forum. No posts and no images. Its a pity really. I wish the world was different.

The value of a dollar is relative to the number of dollars you have, so to some people $7,000 is like a cup of coffee. If you're rich, paying $7,000 for a unique piece of technology doesn't make you a moron. On the other hand, if you mortgaged your house to get an SD1, yes — you may be a moron.

Sigma is actually better. MF backs are using regular Bayer, which means colors cant be that good and per-pixel sharpness neither.

And then theres problem with what you can do with MF back and what you cant. What Sigma and MF backs share is dependancy on really good lens.

There it ends, cause with MF backs you will constantly fight with focusing and you need to have sensor perfectly in plane of focus. Which leads to some really special solutions - like ALPA products to achieve desired results. MF photography is not easy, quite opposite of it, its much harder than using full-frames or APS-C dSLRs.

SD-1 in theory is much easier to handle, and you probably just need to have good enough lens. Sensor is smaller and hopefully calibrated to be in plane of focus (should be much easier cause of size). You can take it anywhere and shoot just from hand without need of tripod.

Only thing you wont get with Sigma is MF look, cause sensor is small. But I think its worth it.

@Mescalambagreat points and just to add a bit, the cost of the SD1 is now in the affordable area compared even to the cheapest MF.The lenses for the SD1 are way cheaper than anything from the MF cameras so the Sigma really represents great value for those who want image quality that is close to MF quality without breaking the bank