The truth hurts, doesn’t it? If I’m wrong I’ll admit it and be glad to have been wrong. If we reach 2019 and after granting amnesty we got no wall and nothing but more useless drones will admit that you were wrong? Or just post more cat pictures?

“…suckered by the Dems…? I think NOT! I suggest you review POTUS’ biography, which includes numerous negotiations with NYC and other Dem politicians. I’d bet he knows all of their tricks, and the correct countermoves to those tricks. Feat not, Sentient,our President’s got this!

This is exactly why Trump had my vote early on. He was able to successfully negotiate the powers-that-be in NYC which is mob city/Democrat city. There was no other candidate who even came close. Could he fail? Possibly — but there’s not a human I can think of who has a better chance of getting this to work. MAGA!

–> Sentient says “The truth hurts, doesn’t it? If I’m wrong I’ll admit it and be glad to have been wrong. If we reach 2019 and after granting amnesty we got no wall and nothing but more useless drones will admit that you were wrong? Or just post more cat pictures?”

We voted for whom we thought was the very best of the best candidate available.

Hindsight is a great tool – but looks like your main goal is to stroke your ego with your “who’s gonna give the mea culpa’s first” gig.

I too WHOLEHEARTEDLY voted for the man who said the endless wars in the ME needed to be stopped. Who said the fake “syrian refugees” had to go back. Who said “DACA was one of the most unconstitutional actions ever undertaken by a President.” and he would repeal it on Day 1. Who encouraged chants of “build the wall” and “lock her up”

That’s the truth and discounting what I’m pointing out with your ignorant “now blow off” comment speaks to your ignorance.

If amnesty is granted via DACA, you can just turn out the lights because that’s it-game, set, match. The demography will be irreversibly changed. I’ve read estimates that DACA will ensure up to 6 MILLION LEGAL immigrants and everyone of them is a dem voter. Hell, they can stop their voter fraud now because they’ll have the legitimate numbers to make sure a true MAGA president never gets close.

I was a Trump supporter almost from Day 1. His inauguration speech gave me hope that we finally had a man in the WH that was with us, the poor schlubs out here grinding it out.
sundance has played all this off as a mastermind getting them just where he wants them and the N Korea situation looks as though he’s right there.

But there just have been too many renegs. I thought there was going to be a disengagement from this endless ME war. Nope. I distinctly heard many times(as I listened to almost every campaign speech) “they gotta go back” Are they going back? Nope. I thought I heard him say numerous times that DACA was “one of the most unconstitutional actions ever undertaken by a President.” and would be repealed. Now he’s twitting that tired BS about how can we deport such hard working members of the military. That’s news to me.

His list of accomplishments in the face of unrelenting opposition is admirable but the Number 1 issue for the majority of those that voted for him was to build this wall, send them back and overturn DACA. None of the additional jobs or lowered regulations amounts to much when there will be 6 Million new legal dem voters. And you can bet your last donut that the ink won’t even be dry before Schumer/Pelosi want some new wrinkle allowing moslims or more Nigerians or more_______________

In his weekly address he spoke of our beautiful heritage and that we should protect it. How does importing millions of uneducated aliens that will be immediately eligible for welfare, who will NEVER assimilate and who are driving wages down for AMERICANS that are lucky enough to even have employment, how does that protect out heritage?

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You are really threatened by trump. Don’t you wished you could have voted for one of the gang of eight republicans or perhaps hill or birney, maybe McMuffiin was more your style. Well they didn’t win and supposedly you got what you voted for. Time to toughen up buttercup or find a safe room.
Bye bye.

Well Sentient,
As far as I can tell it is townhall . com AKA Salem Media Group that has played YOU for a fool.

Erik Erickson of Redstate, Michelle Malkin of Twitchy, Michael Medved, Gallager, and Bennett as well as Hot Air all work for Salem Communications/Salem Media Group.

“This week a Salem Communications insider steps forth (via email) to affirm all of the previous reports, and add details specific to the instructions from Salem Broadcasting and Salem Communications group:

In 2014 (sorry, cannot recall the date), Salem Radio hosted a conference call with Senator Marco Rubio to address the Gang of Eight legislation and “set the record straight.” All national and local talk hosts were urged to take part. I am one of their local hosts, and what I heard that day was troubling.

Moderated by Hugh Hewitt, it began with Senator Rubio offering a brief explanation of the measure and why it was so very necessary. Then Hewitt opened the call to questions. There were only a few, and they were exclusively from higher-profile, national Salem personalities, like Mike Gallagher, Katie Pavlich, and Mark Davis. No local host was permitted a question. Following the Q & A, Senator Rubio was cut loose, and that’s when things got weird.
After Rubio departed, Hewitt introduced Salem V.P. Tom Tradup, who began by saying, “Thanks, Hugh. Now, here’s how I would like our talkers to be talking about this…” I exited the call in disgust at that point and have no idea what followed.
The effort by the GOPe to co-opt the so-called “conservative media” is real, and it’s widespread. It also makes me gag.
XXXXXX (name intentionally withheld by CTH)”

Ahemm…first, I do not know Kurt but I do know townhall is not a fan of PDJT. Second, after PDJT met with Chuck u & Nan many shouted “see I told you so”, that PDJT was a dim all his life. Wrong, DJT was a big supporter of Reagan and he follows Reagan principles. He was a dim in name (not principles) when he had to work with dims in NYC. The operative word being “work”. PDJT knows how the dims work, knows what they want the most and will use that to his advantage in negotiations. Maybe the “politically experienced Chuck u & Nan are too confident and will get shlonged by PDJT. The exceedingly experienced HRC got shlonged, didn’t she? Finally, with Chuck u & Nan rushing out to the press to reporting they got DACA with no wall tells me that they got nothing but wanted the MSM to report they got the best of PDJT, hoping this will lower the morale of PDJT’s supporters.
Too much good stuff going on for that to happen.

Kurt broke ranks with his NeverTrump pals; he has been reliably pro-Trump since Trump won the primary. However, like a lot of people, he seems to still see some things through the lens of the old paradigm. There are times when you can tell they are starting to see things through a different light and times when they revert to what’s comfortable.

I like Kurt Schlichter and enjoy his columns very much, usually. But I am not ready to jump on the Trump is a Naive Fool train just yet. He knows Schumer and has for years. I suspect Trump has his number.

PDJT has done many things that seem absolutely inexplicable to me and are totally at odds with with what “everybody knows.” And yet every time PDJT has turned out to be correct.

I don’t know what will happen next. I have consulted the Magic 8 Ball but it was unhelpful. So I’ll wait and see, and continue to pray.

You are entitled to your concern and I will not tell you to go away. Just consider this: every conservative voice we’ve all listed to going back as far as I can recall has been “suckered” by Bush, the second Bush, McCain, Romney, Ryan, Boehner, McConnell, etc etc etc. All these talking heads told us just how great all of the above were going to be and how if we just won the Presidency, or the House, or the Senate, or filled another Supreme Court seat that all the liberal madness would finally go away. Well, prior to President Trump, none of the above names did ONE SINGLE THING to reverse the decline in this country.

Now you are trusting those same talking heads who got suckered by every other prominent Republican for the last several decades and letting them influence you to abandon the only man since Reagan who has helped our cause?

Like I said, you’re entitled to your concern, but think hard about who you are reading or listening to and ask yourself how many times they’ve been fooled. I trust our President and I know that I won’t get everything that I want, but I believe there is no other man alive who can turn this country around and I will stand by him even if the ship goes down.

Sentient and MminLamesa – stop listening to Schumer and Pelosi (and McConnell, Ryan, McCain and the MSM etc while you’re at it). You honestly think these these people don’t like to stir up sh*t for PDJT wherever they can? Have you learned nothing about the swamp in these last few years?

Trump’s not ‘getting suckered’ – you are. If you’re admitting now that you apparently fell for Trump’s promises on the campaign trail and helped to vote him into office, that would already be admitting the *you’re* the one who’s easily suckered. See how that game works?

President Trump is several steps ahead of most of us as usual, working all the angles to solve some very complex issues. Don’t attempt to second guess him before the final outcome – guaranteed you’ll be wrong. Rome was not built in a day or even 8 months, so give our President the time to work his craft and show us why America elected the man who wrote the book on The Art of the Deal.

In the meantime, please feel free to enlighten us all by telling us if Trump isn’t the man to get DACA, immigration and America’s border security dealt with properly, who do you propose would make a better President and negotiator to accomplish these goals?

Me too. Do these people really not understand how hard we worked to dodge the Hillary bullet? Be grateful for this President people, because it could be worse!

I have studied this man for 30 years–I know Donald Trump inside and out. He is as tough as George Patton with a heart the size of Texas, and I understand the theme song that closed every Trump rally: You can’t always get what you want, and you won’t always want what you get…..

But whether Trump has to go through the front door, the back door, or crawl through a window to accomplish the mission, this country is going to get what it needs:

Excellent post and reminder of his theme song. There are a lot of people focused on the fact that they might not get exactly what they want. While Trump will try to get the very best he can, he is not someone who will forgo something that is very good because it’s not perfect.

Most of you folks have heard the term Sunshine friends…yes they are the ones who are with you when thins are going well and all is sunny…..but when the rain and storms come they are no where to be seen…they jump off the train…
We are blessed to have a man like Trump as POTUS he stands with we the people…we are blessed to have Sundance a brave loving man that takes action and reaches out to help those in troubled waters.
We are blessed to have so many Treepers that stand together when so many fall away..
if this nation is to stand it will be because of people like this ..not Sunshine friends…
hang tuff Treepers

Every Treeper needs to “Lean into it JUST a little MORE” and the pushback will happen…Don’t loose faith in PDJT, Hang Tough, Don’t be discourage and above all, Have faith in the ONE Above because He controls all…

No mention of DACA and the illegal aliens that if it is passed will make the word US Citizen have little meaning.

As it stands now we have four categories of Americans: Birthright Citizen, naturalized Citizen, Green Card holding aliens and undocumented illegal aliens. The first two categories have all the God given and lawful rights and benefits given to US Citizens under the Constitution. The legal Green Card holder has most Constitutional protections except that they can not vote and are subject to deportation for committing unlawful acts. They pay taxes too and many obtain benefits available to US Citizens. The undocumented illegal alien amazingly has all of the rights given to the other three categories except no legal voting, they pay no income taxes and they are represented in both state and federal government by elected officials. Illegals are now protected under many state and some federal law as if they had all the rights of US Citizenship,even though THEY NEVER EARNED IT.

How is it that undocumented aliens gained all of these Citizen rights without becoming US Citizens? What does it mean to be a US Citizen in 2017?

Green Card holders are not US Citizens but they are lawfully living in America as Americans. Illegals are not US Citizens and they are illegally living in America as Americans. American is not a class of Citizen it is a generic description of someone who lives in the USA i.e.; Italian-American, Mexican-American, German-American, and Ilegal-Alien American.

My question was what differentiates a US Citizen under US migration law in 2017 from an illegal alien- American. From what I can see, not much.

Paco, just because you live in America doesn’t mean you are American. To be an American is to embrace American culture. To become American is to accept American culture. You are not American just because you were born in America, or live in America or work in America. I lived and worked in foreign countries and never called myself other than American. I respected the host country’s culture but made sure to keep my American culture.
Italian-Americans are not Italians living in America, they are Americans who came from Italy. Taking your example one step further, Illegal Alien Americans must then be Americans who came here illegally. First, by being here illegally they are invaders and should be removed from the country immediately. There is a process to follow if they want to enter the country legally . Second, they are not Americans until they enter the country legally AND embraced the American culture.

I certainly know all of that. CAll em what you want. My point was that a class of people in the US without documentation are given many of the same privileges as US Citizens and by enabling those benefits the status of being a US Citizen is degraded.

Agree totally. I do get a little discouraged at what appears to be going on with all the negativity lately, but will keep praying just the same. The negativity didn’t start with our present President….been going on for years before his name ballot.

There is a incident reported by the Apostle Paul of a time he was being beaten by Roman soldiers. He informed them that he was a Roman citizen so they could not strike him more than 40 times. They were surprised and asked him how much did his Roman citizenship cost. He then told them that he was born a Roman citizen.

Even then citizenship had value. Sadly, with the 14th Amendment the idea of citizenship was redefined as flowing from the federal level down and our individual rights were gutted. Because of the prostitution of the US Chamber of Commerce, illegals are a desired group as they will support those that enable their invasion and the illegals will help grow the consumer base. Cheap labor is one goal of the COC, the other is to increase the number of consumers and they will sell us citizens out in a heartbeat to accomplish this.

In essence, allowing and enabling illegal, non citizens with rights and benefits afforded to US Citizens, the government and the courts have eroded what it means to be a US Citizen. In essence they have created first and second class citizenship. That’s what’s wrong with DACA and the other programs that have been established for non Citizens.

I know people have problems with Zero Hedge, but the article is by James Howard Kunstler, whose site I read for several years until he got a bit too lefty for me. (Link to the original available at Zero Hedge.)

Kunstler was never a Trump supporter, but now he acknowledges that Trump and supporters make valid points:

‘… the Trumpsters have a legitimate case that they’ve been shoved out of work and livelihoods by immigrants both legal and illegal, and nobody should be surprised at the animus this generates. It’s right and proper that congress should resolve the fate of the DACA kids by legislation, and that they should actively address reform of the 1965 immigration act, too. Things have changed. This isn’t your great-grandad’s America of burgeoning factories beckoning to the downtrodden abroad. This is a sunset industrial economy not really knowing where its headed, but indulging in grandiose fantasies of perpetual robotic leisure where actual work is obsolete but somehow everybody gets rich.

‘Trump was also correct to set a six month deadline on for congress to act. It is clearly their responsibility to do so, and the deadline is exactly the sort of boundary in thought-and-act that this lazy-ass nation needs to begin accomplishing anything on its long and neglected to-do list of pressing issues.’

Article 1 Section 8 of the constitution states clearly that ONLY congress can create laws for immigration. President Trump put it back in the entire congress to make a law on DACA or any other type of refugees. President Obama ignored the constitution like many other times with pen in hand and trampled on our constitution. President Trump will not step an inch over the constitution. By doing this Trump has put the ball and chain on congress and just before their bi-annual reelection. Do not worry, we the people will remember. I predict this will go nowhere except with strings attached like speak english, no crimes, no giveaway programs, and many other strings attached to those DACA folks! Many will be leaving by right now adhearing to the strings of the agreement. Trump has stated clearly NO AMNESTY for any of em’. Trump has set them up (Congress) to do things his way and sooner than later! All those promises both sides of Congress continue to try to split Trumps base. DO NOT fall for the charades of news cycles and hot bladders in congress!

I’m a broken record, I know, but for EVERY DACA “dreamer” who gets a chair in a college or university that is a chair that might have been filled by an American citizen (whether naturalized or born here). ARGHGHGHGHGHGH

Given the kind of education coming out of our colleges and universities, maybe Americans don’t want to attend. Maybe Cs and Us need the tuition (paid by our tax dollars) from dreamers in order to stay in business. Americans are noticing that there is no education for a job or a future coming from these marxists holding tanks. Many will go out of business.

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No true, many American born kids do not belong in University.
Most kids are not prepared because they did not take 4 years of English and 4 years of math in High school. Many kids when they get there thy are lazy party to much do not do their work and believe they are owed an A when they skip classes. I know that I have seen it .
Then are those who work their way through College do all their work come to all classes and are successful in life. I have known young people like that and they are American born kids . We have the lazy one and the high achiever hard working one.

What an incredible video in the first tweet SD shared. My eyes watered when the older woman was telling our Lion how much she and they LOVE him! She even told him she was an American Indian. You can’t script any of that. That is pure love for our President and vice a versa! AMERICANA AT ITS BEST!

American Indians, black Americans, Hispanic Americans, naturalized Americans of all shades, ethnicity etc would be displaced by kids brought here by law breakers. Not their fault, I realize, but why should they be rewarded with the American dream which those listed above who have played by the rules get the first crack at.

Yes, if the burglar hoists his kid through the window to steal your stuff, do you want to let him keep it because he’s just a kid?
I really don’t see how this is different. Yes, they came here when they were 16 or less, but America isn’t “their stuff”.

I would seriously, passionately love to see each and every person here illegally be deported. Every last one.

We have listened to the media and others barking with laughter, “how could we possibly deport all of them? Never happen, no way.” And yet, look how well Floridians evacuated from their peninsula. An amazing logistical feat.

It has made me really question the oft-repeated “it’s impossible” to deport all those people. Why, it would take YEARS! Huh. I wonder. I think all it takes is will power.

Absolutely. Eisenhower deported millions in three months with the primitive technology of his time.
And…If we just enforced the laws: cut off welfare, cut off jobs, and deport upon contact with a law officer, it would be a trivial exercise. Most would self deport, making the remaining ones all the more obvious.

In Eisenhower’s era, illegals didn’t have any due process rights–guess what they have now in spades? And because of that,simply deporting people w/o a felony conviction, etc., is a lengthy, nightmarish, process (such that the backlog, right now, is in excess of 500k), so any way you slice it, you *need* more clear-cut laws to deal w/ that problem and enforcing the laws as written will not do the trick.

Excellent point ECM, and he had that working for him.
We have E-verify, electronic data, and other tools that would keep them off of welfare and off of being employed. At that point, no one but criminals would be staying, and we have the tools to work that problem.
But, I do agree the courts have granted rights to illegals that I don’t think they are entitled to. Thanks for a good perspective on the problem.

Sylvia: Back in the 1950’s, the Eisenhower administration implemented something called Operation Wetback. A task force of 750 border agents swept through Southern California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas, and rounded up and deported three million illegal alien Mexicans in a matter of months. There is no question that if only our elected officials had the will and desire to carry out the wishes of We the People, we COULD round up and deport most of the illegals. So whenever I hear someone state the demonstrably false narrative that it ‘would be impossible to round them all up’, I quickly call BS on that and acquaint them with the unqualified success of Operation Wetback.

As US citizen since 1983 I agree with you Sylvia…. so many times we have to wait in long lines at 4 or 5 am to get to Immigration office….Dreamers….go back to your home country and apply there on consulate/ambassy.

I have repeated this refrain to a half-dozen people who are, seemingly hourly, threatening to jump off the Trump train and *they don’t care*. As far as they are concerned, the fix is in, even when we have *no idea* what the fix might be! It’s maddening!

President Trump ended DACA but allowed a 6 month period for the Congress to pass a bill that will please/or anger their voters. If Congress fails to do their duty, then DACA is dead and those in this country under the DACA rule will be subject to removal like all other illegal aliens in accordance with existing law. Congress sat on it arse and allowed Obama to produce an unconstitutional EO and enforce it. President Trump is commanding Congress to do what they were elected to do in accordance with the US Constitution.

People view and experience the news (like CNN) as background noise. That’s just how we’ve been presented it for years, and how we take it in. So like you saw, nobody is paying attention to what they’re talking about. Everyonce in awhile they’ll look up if something breaking happens, but in general nobody pays it a second notice.

Their ratings are largely from this. People not even paying attention. Even the nightly news, people just turn it on and have it in the background while they play on their phone or whatever.

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On the other hand, you have sites like this… or things like youtube videos, or whatever, that are completely different. You have to actively CHOOSE to come to a site like this and talk, or watch a youtube video that you have to search to find, or whatever. So you absorb much more of the content.

This is one of the secrets to how President Trump was able to defeat the MSM. Honestly; nobody’s watching.

A wonderful, uplifting and deeply appreciative message. Our president loves our people, our country and our constitution. We are blessed to have a strong and decent man leading our country. He is binding us together with every message he sends. We need to take heed and be patient and trust in what God has put in place for us right now. Our president is working tirelessly for FREE and will continue to do so. He has accomplished so much in just a few months against all odds. Imagine after a couple of years from now we will look back at even more progress. We are definitely on a better path forward in this beloved and blessed country. Let’s be grateful, patient and persistent with our prayers for safety and wisdom for our dear president.

The NeverTrumpers and some of the RINOs try to say that Trump is not a conservative. I heard Michael Reagan say it the other day on T.V. Well, how many past Presidents have addressed the nation in this manner talking about the Constitution and love for God, country, and one another? Not since Reagan.