RKing85 - wow. I am surprized it is almost unanimous. I don't think this reason case should affect his status. As far as I know, he had nothing to do with this New Year's Eve incident.

AgreeNo matter what you think of what happened 20 years ago he wasn't convicted and you can't just all of a sudden ban him now for something someone else did that he wasn't even involved in. I get the hate for him but I don't know why it's come up all of a sudden after all these years

His defense was that he was there but couldn't get hard. I wonder how that was proved.

Dana is cool with Mike Tyson a convicted rapist and you guys want him to ban Lloyd who was acquitted ? To be fair I don't believe Dana believes Tyson was guilty as Marcus Avellan does not believe Lloyd was guilty either. Anyway I'm looking for facts on Lloyd's case, dispositions ,testimony transcripts. If you got anything it would be appreciated if you can share

cleetdog101 - Ban him...the whole story is still raw right now. Let it die down. It seems he's quite the scumbag, why share air time with him if you dont have to.

And the UFC can ban anyone for any reason they want.

It's not that simple. If LI's granted a cornerman license, then he has the commission's permission to be there. Dana can't keep Mazagatti from reffing his fights if he wants the event to go down, I wouldn't be surprised if he had equal difficulty keeping a cornerman out.

cleetdog101 - Ban him...the whole story is still raw right now. Let it die down. It seems he's quite the scumbag, why share air time with him if you dont have to.

And the UFC can ban anyone for any reason they want.

It's not that simple. If LI's granted a cornerman license, then he has the commission's permission to be there. Dana can't keep Mazagatti from reffing his fights if he wants the event to go down, I wouldn't be surprised if he had equal difficulty keeping a cornerman out.

I remember The UFC blocking Nick Diaz from corner his brother before he was on the roster and Nate complaining about it after his fight. You can't ban refs but I'm pretty sure the UFC can tell you who can an cannot be in your corner.

cleetdog101 - Ban him...the whole story is still raw right now. Let it die down. It seems he's quite the scumbag, why share air time with him if you dont have to.

And the UFC can ban anyone for any reason they want.

It's not that simple. If LI's granted a cornerman license, then he has the commission's permission to be there. Dana can't keep Mazagatti from reffing his fights if he wants the event to go down, I wouldn't be surprised if he had equal difficulty keeping a cornerman out.

I remember The UFC blocking Nick Diaz from corner his brother before he was on the roster and Nate complaining about it after his fight. You can't ban refs but I'm pretty sure the UFC can tell you who can an cannot be in your corner.

the UFC didnt have anything to do with it,it was the athletic commision

cleetdog101 - Ban him...the whole story is still raw right now. Let it die down. It seems he's quite the scumbag, why share air time with him if you dont have to.

And the UFC can ban anyone for any reason they want.

It's not that simple. If LI's granted a cornerman license, then he has the commission's permission to be there. Dana can't keep Mazagatti from reffing his fights if he wants the event to go down, I wouldn't be surprised if he had equal difficulty keeping a cornerman out.

I remember The UFC blocking Nick Diaz from corner his brother before he was on the roster and Nate complaining about it after his fight. You can't ban refs but I'm pretty sure the UFC can tell you who can an cannot be in your corner.

Really? I remember the athletic commission doing that since they license seconds, not Zuffa/UFC/DW. And DW has zero control of anyone the athletic commission governs (refs, judges, cornermen, etc).

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