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Everything you just said only further his assumptions as correct. Belial is a high-powered super-IS. I don't care too much personally, but I certainly would avoid confronting it in any fanfiction; mine or another's.

He meant that it was strange that the cloak could also serve as an I-Field, not that it was strange that an I-Field was present.

To a certain extent, I guess you could call it yes.
My main point is that it is NOT a Super-IS. That thing is powerful yes, but it has a large amount of flaws.

- Due to the overly high power usage, it will melt its weapons down very fast.
- His only ranged weapon is a "Sniper Rifle". Good luck in using that at close range...
- He otherwise has two blades that work like Yukihira
- He doesn't have a normal IS shiled, and thus, any attack that hit him will damage the armor directly, and eventually injure the pilot quite fast if it's a high powered kinetic weapon
- The plasma shielding field that is used to compensate for the IS Shield, although tougher, leaves him juiceless if overexerted.

Granted, he will most probably excel against slow, heavy artillery type IS (like yours, thus why you don't want to fight it) and energy based later gen IS units. He will be having a hard time against fast and agile IS that can keep up with him, like Nightfury.

If it was to fight one of the canon universe main characters, it wouldn't be curbstomp as well, as plot would indicate that the one hit kill surprise would miss, and everything would have to go in LOS combat.

Also, the "Class 2" IS are supposedly a bit more powerful than a "Class 2.5" IS, but that doesn't mean that if the Class 2.5 one does try, he can't beat em. We have the power of plot and pilot skill anyways.

There are only two Godlike IS units in this thread. Belial in his second form (he is still far from invulnerable, reaching a power level a slightly superior to Byakushiki 2nd form), and JE's Gilgamesh-tan (being on the same level as Silver Gospel, looks like a game breaker)

Your opinion of godlike may vary from mine, perhaps "overpowered" would be a better term. as I stated in my earlier post I'm of the view there are entirely too many pimped out one of a kind top end IS in the hands of random OCs. Now you might protest "well the CCs all have them!" and I'd say "well yeah that becasue they're CCs the rules for OCs are different and tend to be stricter"

There are a number of units in this thread that seem to just be better in most ways that matters compared to the closest equivalent canon IS, or have some previously unseen tech that gives them some big advantage.

Examples:
-Asura's early draft had a cannon that was supposedly nuclear yield at full power, but scaled back to "only" like a 300 meter area of effect for IS combat. This has been further scaled back and is now more reasonable.
-Night Fury is borderline, but I'm finding the entire "it's so fast it injuries pilots!" stuff to be a bit silly and somewhat worrying, but I acutally mostly give it a pass as long as it's weaknesses aren't brushed aside and it
s done reasonably in story and it's not like "it dodges everything and it's totally untouchable becasue it's JUST THAT QUICK"
-I still think the combined cloak shield thing on your mech is too much, either or maybe, but that combined with the overpowered weapons is too much IMO, and of course it's a bloody one off experiment it would have to be since we've never seen anything like this on any other unit, that changes nothing.
-Kha keeps trying to pass off his suit as "mass produced", but he's full of it. It has some super AI grossly more advacned then anything we've seen in the universe and some kind of experimental super generators that gives it "Gen 3.5" power levels and of course about a billion weapons. Supposedly it's "finicky", but we both know that's never going to acutally matter when the defecation hits the oscillation. I'm also sure as the sun rises he has plans to make it more overpowered down the line.
-JEs monster with teleporting, teleporting weapons, anti-IS bullshit field, etc needs no further comment.
-Saint-X transforming "use any weapon evar" Gen-1 that's somehow as strong as a Gen 3 thing is also pushing it IMO. Though this maybe less a power issue and more a fluff one, I don't care what he's spewing an IS supposedly using a first gen frame shouldn't be able to keep up with Gen-3 models IMO.

Okay so it's only like five out of fifteen I currently have issues or worries about, my bad. Although it must be noted a number of those units also happen to be associated with some of the most active posters, this was probably what colored my perception about their prevalence. It also doesn't change the issues with the units noted above.

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JE's Gilgamesh-tan is kinda balanced in the way that she isn't always your "nice guy". She's the wild card, attacking allies and foes alike, so we might get her to fight us at one time.

That doesn't balance it at all. Actually it makes it worse as it gives an excuse to just randomly attack whatever on a whim with almost no restrictions. You might be inclined to try and be nice about it, but I'll call it like I see it. The units an overpowered piece of sue tech with no place in the hands of an OC unless they're intended as a major villain.

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Meister, I don't think Imouto could handle Ea alone... if ever you plan on fighting her in your story, you should have quite a lot of people to handle her... being made by JE, she DOES border on SRW limits. XD

It tends to be hard to defeat sues.

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To a certain extent, I guess you could call it yes.
My main point is that it is NOT a Super-IS. That thing is powerful yes, but it has a large amount of flaws.

None of which are meaningful in any significant way.

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- Due to the overly high power usage, it will melt its weapons down very fast.

Irreverent, they're melee weapons they only need to be engaged for a few seconds at most as you prepare to strike, not a real drawback. This is compounded by the fact he has three of them and so could simply rotate through them further diluting any supposed drawback.

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- His only ranged weapon is a "Sniper Rifle". Good luck in using that at close range...

... He has three super powerful melee weapons and you're trying to pass off not having a short range gun as a meaningful drawback?

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- He otherwise has two blades that work like Yukihira

So he only has two of a weapon another IS use it's entire power supply is put into a single weapon, and has to suck shield energy to really power up. Oh well when you put it like that this is totally reasonable!

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- He doesn't have a normal IS shiled, and thus, any attack that hit him will damage the armor directly, and eventually injure the pilot quite fast if it's a high powered kinetic weapon

This might acutally matter if the shield wasn't replaced by no less then four systems that combine to be better in basically every way:
1. The Cape can block beam attacks
2. The Cape is a perfect cloak probably making any sort of tracking weapon like missiles worthless
3. It has a "plasma shield" that can deflect any incoming fire if supplied with energy... so you know pretty much exactly like a IS shield.
4. It has super armor that's " very resitsant compared to standard IS armor" and can regenerate itself.

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- The plasma shielding field that is used to compensate for the IS Shield, although tougher, leaves him juiceless if overexerted.

If overexerted... so it's functionally the same as a normal shield then. It works until it's overloaded and drained by heavy fire, at which point the fight is over.

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Granted, he will most probably excel against slow, heavy artillery type IS (like yours, thus why you don't want to fight it) and energy based later gen IS units. He will be having a hard time against fast and agile IS that can keep up with him, like Nightfury.

My unit isn't slow it can just mount heavier convectional weapons if needed, it's a general purpose model of middling performance.

I also fail to see why it would "have a hard time" against a fast IS, you've no where indicated it's slow itself. Acutally your profile includes an equipment option that boosts it's agility to "very high" levels. It has a all the above mentioned whacked out defense systems that will protect it against the vast majority of ranged attacks and it's loaded with overpowered melee weapons to use on anyone that tries to get close. You claim it would struggle, but looking at what it's packing I honestly can't figure out why it would.

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If it was to fight one of the canon universe main characters, it wouldn't be curbstomp as well, as plot would indicate that the one hit kill surprise would miss, and everything would have to go in LOS combat.

So you say, but frankly looking at what's loaded with I'm inclined to be highly skeptical of that claim.

Actually, my first draft never created a nuclear yeild, the prototype of ARC was building-based, which produced an intense yeild. The IS weapon created a MOAB yield, which, compared to most high powered weapons in the canon universe, isn't all too bad, especially when it requires a less-than-efficient charge time and reduces movements to simple skittering across the floor. I admit, it's effect upon contact is quite ridiculous, but it is incapable of actually penetrating the pilot-protecting shield every IS possesses.

If it's still too much, then I'm all for editing it down. I really don't care too much for making Alice a protogé. I just want someone to be able to interact with others, and quite frankly, because I love designing things like this.

Man, don't try to justify yourself to Tk. He already made it clear since ze beginning he's going to be the snarking cynic and call foul play at just about everything that goes on in this thread, because he's the obligatory straight man here, and we're all the idiots.

Besides, from what I recall about convention, if you want to join the Villains and Villainesses Club, you gotta be at least SRW level or extremely slick. All Villainous figures are generally worth three to ten of the protagonist's party members working together. Their downfall always being that they work alone, never finish the job on time, and have the most incompetent minions in the world.

Death Sentence-tan is gonna give folks a lot of chances to level up. Can't say the same for Phantom Task...

@Kyral:

As for Reaper, he better have a plan and plenty of mooks between him and her. That said, to be honest, it probably should not be hard to gather some intel on Ea. You might not be able to get specs, but an IS that distinctive and destructive tends to spin its own propaganda and eyewitness accounts free of charge.

This is intentional. Her existence is meant to serve in the same deterrent fashion as a "Beware of Dog" sign that someone might put up in their yard. Can't guarantee she'll be there, but it encourages people to play nice and keep a low profile, knowing somebody, somewhere is watching, and if they get angry, they might send the boogie lady after you.

Just like the famed "White Knight" IS...

Now, considering Reaper's made it up to the World's Top Ten Public Enemies list, he should have a solid SOP, good intel before every major stunt, and plenty of contingency plans in case the feces hit the fan. In fact, I imagine, he'd be trying very hard to uncover the origins of Ea and just who exactly is sponsoring this symbolic watchdog.

This is all in an effort to eliminate her, in good time, you see?

Heck, if Silver Gospel can be defeated by a dream team combo, why not enlist the aid of Phantom Task? It would definitely be a mutually beneficial proposal. She's bad for business and has got to GO. Getting rid of the Murder Doll would allow everyone to move with much greater freedom and impunity, no?

Shoot, I imagine, the world's gonna turn into a very anxious and uncertain place, once both Silver Gospel and Ea have been defeated. The only other IS, I believe, that even come close are the Russian Gen 3.X IS, which haven't been revealed yet in canon.

My satisfaction will not be satiated until I create my own Organization.
So, here it is.

Spoiler for NSISA:

The National Infinite Stratos Space Association.

A sub-group of America's long-lived NASA institute, NSISA has become a world leader in the precocious development of outer thermosphere and beyond. The US has since developed two functional IS frames capable of space-faring travel and combat, but has little true combat testing to truly back up its proposed power. The Zeus-10, the first SIS to be put onto the production line, was a ground-breaking achievement, effectively placing the US again as the leading space power. Russia tags behind at a close second, releasing reports on its first SIS frame months later. Japan came third, but had produced three different frames at the same time, though they have -as of yet- failed to put on a factory floor. One of the frames, the Tsukuyomi, still possesses the largest core energy supply out of all other released frames. While Russia and the US still contend like old times, they are effectively passing Japan in production and innovation. The US cores are based on a median; a standard frame amongst other SIS with no overall dominance in specific roles. An all-around character that succeeds and fails at nothing. Russian frames stress mobility in space, as well as being the only country to essentially overlook the Treaty of Paris, which dictated orbital bombardment weaponry as illegal. Such weapons are only usable on ground targets, and require intense computational yield, rendering the Russian frame, Tsar, useless in SIS-SIS combat.

The calculated leaders in SIS Technology are as follows:
-US has produced 2 usable frames
-Russia has produced 3 usable frames
-Japan has produced 3 usable frames
-China and all below have produced or utilized from another country 1 frame
-India
-Germany
-France
-Great Britain
-Israel

Though other countries have reached space in the past, all countries not listed here have yet to develop SIS frames. The SIS are not cheap in the slightest.

It is safe to say however, that these machines are the dominant weapons in space environments, even against most (if not all) Gen-3 IS produced on the ground. The frames are larger than normal, accountable due to its higher-density materials, of which are easily usable in space due to a lack of gravity. All SIS lack any form of solid projectile weapons (save the Russian Tsar), and instead rely solely on energy weapons. Technological advancements that were established in the USTB worked for a beam weapon standard that prevented stray shots from heading Earth bound and touching down, harming innocents potentially. These energy weapons dissipate at a rate that prevents Space-to-Ground contact, further allowing SIS to freely move and fire about space. The NSISA has further developed the technology, producing a potent weapon unique to the organization; homing lasers. The homing laser outperforms average missiles, requiring little distance to hit the target, able to turn on a dime in combat. The laser focal points t the anterior ends also feature a radio-wave sensory-type energy, which can cancel out the laser and prevent Earthly contact. On the flip-side, homing lasers a quite glitchy and imperfect, frequently dissipating before contact or outright losing focus on the opponent. A new model on the drawing board heavily utilizes homing laser technology, though the Lateralus is capable of equipping old-type homing lasers.
In retaliation to such high-activity weapons, Russia has further developed mobility in their IS systems, as well as starting a blueprint for their own homing laser tech. Russian SIS frames are ridiculously nimble in space, capable of instantaneous 0 to 1000^ kph speeds. The US NSISA lacks such quick schemes, but makes up for it in a higher firepower and armor. The Japanese have a similar focus to the NSISA, but stress to a higher degree, the development of weaponry.

It is projected that SIS-Combat can meet tournament capability in ten years, as the variation in frames and regulations and safety precautions have yet to be perfected. The Japanese have taken the initiative towards tournament games for the SIS, which was to be expected, but the US and Russia lag behind, too focused on military capability.

Though the US has yet to create an orbital bombardment SIS, it has been deduced through espionage that if a war came around, they;d have an SIS ready to go toe-to-toe with Russia's Tsar. The project name of the frame is unknown, and evidence is sketchy, nonetheless. Both the US and Russia have mutually agreed to a five-year plan in which SIS would be unmanned for combat testing to spur on development which has stagnated in recent years.

Things are in flux, especially after finally trawling through the LN thread and whatever useful information there exists on the flimsy IS wiki. Removing the storage form, and reducing the arsenal of the Merlion to 2 claws 2 bazookas are just one of the changes I've chalked up now that I've done proper research. (All Hail Charlotte for finally getting me off my bum )

All that's left is to apply the changes in proper prose, but that has to wait till the weekend when I don't have a 6am to 10pm schedule!!

At the same time, there are subtle changes to fluff, namely the 2.5G Vanda-type M. Joaqium Stamen and its Armored Stratos Orchidis equipment. This 'national flower's' elegance and power inspired the designs of several Foundation IS series of which the Merlion-type is part of. The unit is now under 2nd Year student, Tio Rishin (Teo Lixing), daughter of a strong political family. She is rather protective of her juniors, and is everything both sides of Karon aspires to be.

(Also, she got her head blown off by a railgun is inexplicably afraid of caterpillars. )

More details about it and Rishin will come after my next IS: Shooting Star scene!

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MeisterBabylon, how would Laura react when Edward gives her the 'Roy thousand yard stare' ? The stare that Roy gives to Lust when he delivered the final blow I mean. Would she be a little intimidated/scared ?

Brush it off I guess. I don't see how they would have even met before this. Unless she too was related to Omega-D.

Even if they were, that girl is too hung up over Chifuyu to care about anyone else until the story permits.

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I think Pahlawan is a good idea. But shouldn't we leave the Malay names to the Malaysian IS-es?

T-Gore body armor it is.

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I was thinking that Karon is closer to Dokuro or Neptune. Imouto seems to be a little messy for an AI.

Actually, I like that. Let's go with Imouto being like Dokuro and Karon like Tsukasa, both being sadistic in their own little way.

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Rachel : Wait! You can't just grab someone from there....THAT IS SO WRONG! STOP IT ALREADY!

I sense a nosebleed while she's screaming that.

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Well given the fact that males don't have the power of IS-es to aid them in combat, they have to use technology to get an upper hand. The SP-T3 (Specialised Pistol - Tactical 3) has a linear accelerator built in, and the prototype version which fires plasma bolts (SP-P3) is equipped to the Cosmic Shroud Kai. Besides he plays a part in the building of that module.

Spoiler for future spoilers:

And that sword he holds......has got something to do with Blind Horizon.

Males don't need IS to kick ass! Just like IS don't need to be personal to be useful!

This is why I've been just equipping the 1st Commandos with body armor that only thing cool about them is the name. It is akin to being Imperial Guardsmen; their armor is reasonable against conventional forces, but they all know that they will die in throngs once an IS appears. But because they are MEN, they do it proudly.

I suppose the sword is fine, but a S6 AP2 plasma pistol is a bit much for anything not an IS.

That sword sustained by an IS is enough. To borrow the words of a manly man, "My Zankantou is enough."

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I tried drawing Helena, but it wasn't as good with pencil marks and smudges all over the place.

Spoiler for Helena:

Yeah she is skiving P.E to sleep again. Apparently her shirt is so big that it covered her bloomers.

I created a mess of the pic because I could not decide on her hairstyle and hair-decs. Her wolf ears hairband is a little hard to draw....maybe I'll give up for now and draw Kari first.

Squee.

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*scratches head* You know... I kept thinking and thinking... well... I seem not to be creative enough... don't know how Reaper could counter something like this except a huge boost in powerlevel and this is the one thing I don't really want.
Ok or his stealth systems are actually good enough to fool her "hardened sensor suite intended to defeat all manner of stealth systems and ECM".

Blame my incompetence in creating good stories and characters... but I totaly ran against a wall here... it makes my character feel somewaht obsolete, as he should be there as something threatening that could just appear out of nowhere.

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And... Well... we have Lambda for this role now, have we?

Well at least both don't need to excist in the same universe. ^^

I'd still prefer Reaper. And Reaper came first.

Yes they don't have to exist in the same world. Also, when I feature characters in IS: Shooting Star, I may change a minor part of their fluff or characteristics to make sure it all fits together. I do my best to keep it wholesale, but some changes must happen, when power levels vary wildly, when some plot elements clash with others I already have, or when I disagree with the plausibility of that element existing.

Sometimes, I may even have to ignore a character, or an entire organization, altogether.

For example, Lambda is one of the few that has earned the honor of appearing as a nightmare dream character with no connection with the real world. Like the rest of the Shadow Mirror universe.

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Well as Erika also needs to learn to have more confidence in herself, I don't see anything against some kind of two-sided beneficial relationship here.

Let's do it!

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I think so too... he voices more gloomy characters quit well. xD

~~~New Intelligence Data Updated~~~

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This is Saji Maximillan. He's a teacher. In a school of girls. Which automatically gives him a harem, right?

Well, this is Class 1-2. Already, the trend is broken.

Huang Lingyi. She's after another guy.Gou Karon. She's intent on making his life a living hell.Helena de Wolfe. She's asleep.Rachel Hirashima. She's not impressed.Meena Vallerie. She's a teacher, childhood friend, and nothing else.

Name problem fixed.
Reaper would make a fine villain as he is. It's not Reaper that's the problem, James's Ea is actually the overpowered lady here.
But as Ea's seems to be quite the "wild card", she isn't under control, and often acts as both good and bad guy.

One problem is that Reaper is one of her proprity targets the chance is quit high that she choose to battle him over the others when he shows himself.

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We can always remember that not everything boils down to IS combat when you're a villain. Reaper could easily sabotage like half of the school's IS or activate an "IS Activation Inhibitor" just to get his plan done. Or some other evil plan to get his objectives achieved.

True. He does not do much just spontaneous, he plans things in advance and sabotage or indirect attacks are all things he utilizes to reach his goals. He's also pretty capable outside of an IS, as his cybernetics pretty mich give him senses and physical abilites that are above the majority of humans (especially all those teenagers that ISA is filled with.).

I'm still working on the full profile for Reaper, it also will contain a list of cybernetic enhancments.

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By the way Kyral, I would advise you to check Alex's Hikari biography, scroll down to the info on his IS, and look at Sovreign's Cousin. XD
A fight between the two Stealth residents would be fun!

I did read Belial's specs and you are right, it would make for some interesting battle. Well, Belial has a more energy conserving stealth system and Sovereign's needs to switch off most of its systems for it's stealth system to function, so it needs to decloak to take a shot (On the other hand, the anti-radar system is always on.)
I think this battle pretty much could always switch between exchanging shots/blows at each other and "hide and seek".

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I'm eventually planning for one last guy that might be quite an assistance to Reaper...

Nice! Then I eagerly wait for more information.

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@Kyral:

As for Reaper, he better have a plan and plenty of mooks between him and her.

That's about the only thing he would use mooks for. Only he does not plant them between him and her. He makes people believe that he's there but in reality he's not, that's more his stile.

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That said, to be honest, it probably should not be hard to gather some intel on Ea. You might not be able to get specs, but an IS that distinctive and destructive tends to spin its own propaganda and eyewitness accounts free of charge.

He has his connections, so yeah, he would more or less know about stuff already. Especialy as Ea is, to borrow your own words, a "Beware of Dog" sign.

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Now, considering Reaper's made it up to the World's Top Ten Public Enemies list, he should have a solid SOP, good intel before every major stunt, and plenty of contingency plans in case the feces hit the fan. In fact, I imagine, he'd be trying very hard to uncover the origins of Ea and just who exactly is sponsoring this symbolic watchdog.

Well as you might know from his profile, he's not the kind that barges in somewhere blindly. So he does spent a lot of time and effort in intelligence first, even if his target would be a food stand. Heck, he's the guy that uses his IS only against other IS, so he might try indirect means (bombs and snipers against people with inactive IS for example) as soon as the direct approach would be to risky.

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This is all in an effort to eliminate her, in good time, you see?

Heck, if Silver Gospel can be defeated by a dream team combo, why not enlist the aid of Phantom Task? It would definitely be a mutually beneficial proposal. She's bad for business and has got to GO. Getting rid of the Murder Doll would allow everyone to move with much greater freedom and impunity, no?

Pretty much. As a common goal is on of the things that makes him work together with others. But I also must admit my knowladge about "Silver Gosple" is pretty limited, dispite that it's the white IS we saw at the beginning of Anime episode 1 and it's an AI (and please don't spoiler me much ).

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Shoot, I imagine, the world's gonna turn into a very anxious and uncertain place, once both Silver Gospel and Ea have been defeated. The only other IS, I believe, that even come close are the Russian Gen 3.X IS, which haven't been revealed yet in canon.

Conspiracies and geopolitics are so much fun~!

And it's not even known where he got Sovereign from... so there might also a pretty big player out there backing him.

Brush it off I guess. I don't see how they would have even met before this. Unless she too was related to Omega-D.

Omega D ?

They haven't met before. It's just a scene in my mind but I'm not sure how you plan to do chapter 1. The scene I have in mind is when Laura fired her railgun shot at Ichika and Charles moves to block it Edward partially activates his IS ( only the Mobius VOR) and shoots down the railgun shot just as it was about to hit Charles's shield. How would Laura react to that ?

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Even if they were, that girl is too hung up over Chifuyu to care about anyone else until the story permits.

Males don't need IS to kick ass! Just like IS don't need to be personal to be useful!

This is why I've been just equipping the 1st Commandos with body armor that only thing cool about them is the name. It is akin to being Imperial Guardsmen; their armor is reasonable against conventional forces, but they all know that they will die in throngs once an IS appears. But because they are MEN, they do it proudly.

I suppose the sword is fine, but a S6 AP2 plasma pistol is a bit much for anything not an IS.

It is a tactical pistol firing normal ball rounds.....I am just drawing my experience with the SIG P226 and knowledge of CPTs (Close Protection Teams). Besides, men vs IS-es aren't on par. The IS-es have way too many edges already.

Anyway, more pencil marks, smudges, and eraser bits all over my desk and paper......

Spoiler for Kari:

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When three puppygirls named after pastries are on top of each other, it is called Eclair a'la menthe et Biscotti aux fraises avec beaucoup de Ricotta sur le dessus.
Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing.

Hmm, I kinda see your point. Perhaps that the way I described the Mech itself was a bit too "impressive".
But you still missed out two big points. The moonlight can at best be used once per minute. Which then leaves him with two weapons. But he rarely wield two at the same time because they both drain a lot of energy from him. Well... you'll see my point in a few lines.

But I still planned for that IS to be powerful. Mainly due to the fact that he is supposed to PROTECT Orimura Ichika, who is one of the CCs with an already quite good power level.
Alex is after all, the member of a secret organization that is hacked up in variant parts, going from lawful neutral to chaotic evil.

I did relook at the entire cast though, and I do believe that some adjustments are needed as you stated.
Perhaps it was also the fact that this IS would serve both in JE's and Meister's fan-fics, as well as mine, so I did not really have an idea how to gauge its power.

Anyways, after realizing that Belial's 2nd Form is there, for use when we need power increase, I changed the 1st form's design a bit.

It still maintains the same flavour... but read on to see a few fixes making it more "accessible" for the Canon Verse's competition. Also fixed some descriptions that didn't explicitly point out the weaknesses.

Man, don't try to justify yourself to Tk. He already made it clear since ze beginning he's going to be the snarking cynic and call foul play at just about everything that goes on in this thread, because he's the obligatory straight man here, and we're all the idiots.

Besides, from what I recall about convention, if you want to join the Villains and Villainesses Club, you gotta be at least SRW level or extremely slick. All Villainous figures are generally worth three to ten of the protagonist's party members working together. Their downfall always being that they work alone, never finish the job on time, and have the most incompetent minions in the world.

Death Sentence-tan is gonna give folks a lot of chances to level up. Can't say the same for Phantom Task...

Not justifying myself, more like trying to see what he's trying to point out and see the level of validity.
And no, Alex is not a villain (well... ehm... for now...)... so SRW power levels are still not warranted.

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I did read Belial's specs and you are right, it would make for some interesting battle. Well, Belial has a more energy conserving stealth system and Sovereign's needs to switch off most of its systems for it's stealth system to function, so it needs to decloak to take a shot (On the other hand, the anti-radar system is always on.)
I think this battle pretty much could always switch between exchanging shots/blows at each other and "hide and seek".

Updated it to make stuff more interesting. I switched Belial from a "powerful stealth half mario" unit to "The Assasin Glass Cannon".

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Well as you might know from his profile, he's not the kind that barges in somewhere blindly. So he does spent a lot of time and effort in intelligence first, even if his target would be a food stand. Heck, he's the guy that uses his IS only against other IS, so he might try indirect means (bombs and snipers against people with inactive IS for example) as soon as the direct approach would be to risky.

Sniping? Assasins!? Target = Orimura Ichika! Time for some non-IS action with special operatives tune playing in the back!

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Spoiler for Spoiler For Kari:

OMG KAWAI SCHTRAMFLARGBLARGBLAM!!!!

edit: My baddie is starting to look... Like an evil Kira Yamato... New character shall soon be added!

Also, my fan-fic will restart the introduction posts I made and edit them a bit... I'll have to change a few stuff and faeture some of the OCs here, as they will play quite a plot in my FF.

I just realized something. Why is Belial so.........FREAKIN' BIG?! 4.3 Meters tall? Dude, you're not an IS anymore. You're like straight up a mecha now, and as tall and big as a standard Knightmare Frame (e.g. RPI-13 Sutherland) from Code Geass no less! Hell, you would actually loom over an Armored Trooper even in the For Answer-verse, most of the time. Lightweights are about 3.0 meters tall, Middle like the Scopedog average about 3.8 meters, and heavyweight like the Standing Tortoise just break 4.0+ meters.

That's nuts. You can wrestle comfortably with an Armored Trooper

Hell, by my guesstimate the average IS should fall between 2 to 3 meters, which is reasonable under the assumption that the average adult male is 1.8 meters (180 centimeters tall or 5'11"). But 4.3 meters for the Belial?

Great Scott, man! Talk about overcompensation. What the heck went wrong in the design process?

But, hey, if you want to be that massive, be my guest yo. ....Just don't say I didn't warn you, okay?

'cuz, I'm gonna have to assume Belial is meant to be a "light" superheavy IS at this point.

I just realized something. Why is Belial so.........FREAKIN' BIG?! 4.3 Meters tall? Dude, you're not an IS anymore. You're like straight up a mecha now, and as tall and big as a standard Knightmare Frame (e.g. RPI-13 Sutherland) from Code Geass no less! Hell, you would actually loom over an Armored Trooper even in the For Answer-verse, most of the time. Lightweights are about 3.0 meters tall, Middle like the Scopedog average about 3.8 meters, and heavyweight like the Standing Tortoise just break 4.0+ meters.

That's nuts. You can wrestle comfortably with an Armored Trooper

Hell, by my guesstimate the average IS should fall between 2 to 3 meters, which is reasonable under the assumption that the average adult male is 1.8 meters (180 centimeters tall or 5'11"). But 4.3 meters for the Belial?

Great Scott, man! Talk about overcompensation. What the heck went wrong in the design process?

But, hey, if you want to be that massive, be my guest yo. ....Just don't say I didn't warn you, okay?

'cuz, I'm gonna have to assume Belial is meant to be a "light" superheavy IS at this point.

Background currently employed at IS's academy are technician but also task as handy man (Does maintenance and repairs at the academy a jack all trade in various fields.) He personally witness the "White Knight incident" a couple of years, was awe struck by IS's combat abilities. A mechanical engineer by profession has been tinkering around on various power-suit/ muscle suit concept, while versatile its fire power still inferior to 1st generation IS's

Unit ability while wearing his customized suit/armor he can be teleport with in 10 km radius of the academy and his weapon pack can be delivery via control or teleport.