It is free in the sense the government doesn't control it. It is not impartial, which progressive try to pass as a "free" press.

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It isn't free because it is being controlled.

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Everything is controlled to some extent. There is no such thing as an uncontrolled press, the question is 1) who controls it, and 2) how many different people are in control.

Our press is a free as it gets, it's just biased mostly in favor of one view.

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You agree then that it isn't a free press?

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Not really. To me press "freedom" is about government control, and if only one viewpoint is allowed via corporate ownership. We don't have that, so to me the American press is "free", but it is slanted toward one viewpoint.

A non "free" press would be persecuted by the government or by the controlling interests, and by persecuted, I don't mean made fun of, I mean offices shut down, feeds blocked, reporters arrested.

Not calling our press "free" plays into the hands of progressives.

CNN may be biased, but it isn't prevented from giving its own views, neither is FOX, Briebart, Occupy Democrats, Newsweek or other entities.

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Sure, a non-free press would be persecuted by the government, but that isn't the only way the press can be chained. Reporters are not allowed to tell stories in an unbiased way. tjhey are not allowed to print stories that aren't approved by those who control them. It is not a free press in any real way.

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If said reporters wanted to get a given story out and their superiors wanted the story quashed, they have a multitude of methods to get the story out anyway. The issue is the public's acceptance of sources outside the mainstream media. Luckily the public is more accepting of outside media sources, unluckily the public is more accepting of blatantly false outside media sources, and that is the conundrum.

People have gotten used to the idea that the press is a source of unbiased news, not opinion news. Even if this was never true, the press 40 years ago or even 20 years ago was less biased than it is now. What we are now seeing is the people realizing the press has a rooting interest, and the inevitable backlash.

So again, I do consider our press "free" due to lack of government interference. What I don't consider it is fair.

These protests are just another example of Obama's feckless foreign policy...it's like shinning a bright light on his total uselessness as the leader of the free world...I guess when he said he would lead from behind he was actually serious...

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So now you're against protesters against the power elite?
Who do you think the colonists were against the British?
Read a freaking history book.

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You don't even know what you are talking about...the people of Iran are fed up with the leadership in their nation...they need and deserve support even if only by words from the free world...something the Muslim and chief Obama was not able to bring himself to...

Millions are taking to the streets in Iran to protest against the current oppressive regime. Millions and billions (1.7 bil from Obama) continue to be funneled to Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations rather than back into the Iranian economy. The people are pissed.

Millions are taking to the streets in Iran in protest to the current oppressive regime. Millions and billions (1.7 bil from Obama) continue to be funneled to Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations rather than back into the Iranian economy. The people are pissed.

Millions are taking to the streets in Iran to protest against the current oppressive regime. Millions and billions (1.7 bil from Obama) continue to be funneled to Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations rather than back into the Iranian economy. The people are pissed.

Millions are taking to the streets in Iran to protest against the current oppressive regime. Millions and billions (1.7 bil from Obama) continue to be funneled to Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations rather than back into the Iranian economy. The people are pissed.

Everything is controlled to some extent. There is no such thing as an uncontrolled press, the question is 1) who controls it, and 2) how many different people are in control.

Our press is a free as it gets, it's just biased mostly in favor of one view.

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You agree then that it isn't a free press?

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Not really. To me press "freedom" is about government control, and if only one viewpoint is allowed via corporate ownership. We don't have that, so to me the American press is "free", but it is slanted toward one viewpoint.

A non "free" press would be persecuted by the government or by the controlling interests, and by persecuted, I don't mean made fun of, I mean offices shut down, feeds blocked, reporters arrested.

Not calling our press "free" plays into the hands of progressives.

CNN may be biased, but it isn't prevented from giving its own views, neither is FOX, Briebart, Occupy Democrats, Newsweek or other entities.

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Sure, a non-free press would be persecuted by the government, but that isn't the only way the press can be chained. Reporters are not allowed to tell stories in an unbiased way. tjhey are not allowed to print stories that aren't approved by those who control them. It is not a free press in any real way.

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If said reporters wanted to get a given story out and their superiors wanted the story quashed, they have a multitude of methods to get the story out anyway. The issue is the public's acceptance of sources outside the mainstream media. Luckily the public is more accepting of outside media sources, unluckily the public is more accepting of blatantly false outside media sources, and that is the conundrum.

People have gotten used to the idea that the press is a source of unbiased news, not opinion news. Even if this was never true, the press 40 years ago or even 20 years ago was less biased than it is now. What we are now seeing is the people realizing the press has a rooting interest, and the inevitable backlash.

So again, I do consider our press "free" due to lack of government interference. What I don't consider it is fair.

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The said reporters wouldn't have a job. they won't do it. It's not a free press in any real way.

Everything is controlled to some extent. There is no such thing as an uncontrolled press, the question is 1) who controls it, and 2) how many different people are in control.

Our press is a free as it gets, it's just biased mostly in favor of one view.

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You agree then that it isn't a free press?

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Not really. To me press "freedom" is about government control, and if only one viewpoint is allowed via corporate ownership. We don't have that, so to me the American press is "free", but it is slanted toward one viewpoint.

A non "free" press would be persecuted by the government or by the controlling interests, and by persecuted, I don't mean made fun of, I mean offices shut down, feeds blocked, reporters arrested.

Not calling our press "free" plays into the hands of progressives.

CNN may be biased, but it isn't prevented from giving its own views, neither is FOX, Briebart, Occupy Democrats, Newsweek or other entities.

Click to expand...

Sure, a non-free press would be persecuted by the government, but that isn't the only way the press can be chained. Reporters are not allowed to tell stories in an unbiased way. tjhey are not allowed to print stories that aren't approved by those who control them. It is not a free press in any real way.

Click to expand...

If said reporters wanted to get a given story out and their superiors wanted the story quashed, they have a multitude of methods to get the story out anyway. The issue is the public's acceptance of sources outside the mainstream media. Luckily the public is more accepting of outside media sources, unluckily the public is more accepting of blatantly false outside media sources, and that is the conundrum.

People have gotten used to the idea that the press is a source of unbiased news, not opinion news. Even if this was never true, the press 40 years ago or even 20 years ago was less biased than it is now. What we are now seeing is the people realizing the press has a rooting interest, and the inevitable backlash.

So again, I do consider our press "free" due to lack of government interference. What I don't consider it is fair.

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The said reporters wouldn't have a job. they won't do it. It's not a free press in any real way.

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The problem is your concept of a 'free press" is similar to the Ideal Gas Law. great as a concept but wouldn't occur in the real world.

Not really. To me press "freedom" is about government control, and if only one viewpoint is allowed via corporate ownership. We don't have that, so to me the American press is "free", but it is slanted toward one viewpoint.

A non "free" press would be persecuted by the government or by the controlling interests, and by persecuted, I don't mean made fun of, I mean offices shut down, feeds blocked, reporters arrested.

Not calling our press "free" plays into the hands of progressives.

CNN may be biased, but it isn't prevented from giving its own views, neither is FOX, Briebart, Occupy Democrats, Newsweek or other entities.

Click to expand...

Sure, a non-free press would be persecuted by the government, but that isn't the only way the press can be chained. Reporters are not allowed to tell stories in an unbiased way. tjhey are not allowed to print stories that aren't approved by those who control them. It is not a free press in any real way.

Click to expand...

If said reporters wanted to get a given story out and their superiors wanted the story quashed, they have a multitude of methods to get the story out anyway. The issue is the public's acceptance of sources outside the mainstream media. Luckily the public is more accepting of outside media sources, unluckily the public is more accepting of blatantly false outside media sources, and that is the conundrum.

People have gotten used to the idea that the press is a source of unbiased news, not opinion news. Even if this was never true, the press 40 years ago or even 20 years ago was less biased than it is now. What we are now seeing is the people realizing the press has a rooting interest, and the inevitable backlash.

So again, I do consider our press "free" due to lack of government interference. What I don't consider it is fair.

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The said reporters wouldn't have a job. they won't do it. It's not a free press in any real way.

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The problem is your concept of a 'free press" is similar to the Ideal Gas Law. great as a concept but wouldn't occur in the real world.

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Not really, sorry. Mine applies and exists in the real world, yours is just well, a nice idea.

Millions are taking to the streets in Iran to protest against the current oppressive regime. Millions and billions (1.7 bil from Obama) continue to be funneled to Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations rather than back into the Iranian economy. The people are pissed.

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