my point beingGW deflected the investigation implicating his brother, Neil, in the scandal, then cloaked himself in the mantle of "WAR PRESIDENT"to prevent any investigation into Bogus BUSH BS EVER going forth.

"And North Korea's military responded with its own aggressive stance, saying that it is examining its plans for attacking U.S. bases in Guam."

I read this and saw it was written by Fleet Street Fox I thought what? so I googled the name....and put her info at the bottom of my post thought her view of the Two nuts was a great read to share

Imagine, just for a moment, that a narcissistic bully had got his tiny, deranged hands on a nuclear arsenal.

And then imagine it's NOT Donald Trump.

That's right, there's two of them. Two tubby tinpot tyrants with all the humility of Zsa Zsa Gabor.

Worse, they're on OPPOSITE sides. Trump and Kim Jong Un are bad enough, but if they were friends at least the rest of the world could get together and wag an enormous foam finger at them. When two morons compete there's little anyone can do but get to a safe distance and wait for the bang.

Unfortunately there is no safe distance from the USA and North Korea, not least because they're on two different continents and a nuclear spat between the two could swallow an entire hemisphere.

Each heavily-armed megalomaniac is also connected to some of the greatest nations in the world who'd get sucked in alongside them - North Korea to Russia and China, the USA to Europe and the Pacific Rim.

A difference of opinion between these two, in short, is world-ending. A blast of thunder greater even than the combined power of their meat-and-cheese-binge farts. As Trump says, a "fire and fury the like of which the world has never seen". Or indeed smelled.

So it's grim. But not impossible, right? I mean America is still mostly on the side of freedom, and it usually wins, and Trump's powers are restricted and OH GOD PLEASE DON'T LET MY SKIN BURN.

North Korea's just successfully tested a new intercontinental ballistic missile, so it could now hit the US mainland. The US responded by flying supersonic bombers around where Kim could see them and had a practice with its anti-missile defence system. Now Kim has a usable nuclear warhead, is considering an attack on the US naval base on Guam, and Trump is talking out of his backside with even more fury than usual.

It's the geopolitical equivalent of two drunk men arguing with separate lampposts - laughable on their own, but more worrying if they actually meet.

But before you build a bunker and line it with tinned Spam, there are options. Let's take them one at a time.

d Nations Security Council, EU and individual nations have been imposing these since North Korea's first nuclear test in 2006 and they've made naff all difference to its arms race.

Not only has Kim been confident enough to assassinate his own half-brother on foreign soil using VX nerve agent, a UN report earlier this year found he'd been flouting sanctions using front companies and international cash and gold transfers to buy air defence systems and satellite-guided missiles from Asia, Africa and the Middle East.

He's been trading minerals and natural resources with every dictator in the world and found a way to access international banking systems. He makes personal millions from the banned export of minerals such as magnesite and graphite, which are used in mobile phones.

In 2013 a North Korean vessel was intercepted en route from Cuba with MIG jets and anti-aircraft missiles on board. Last year another ship was stopped on its way to the Suez Canal and under several tons of iron ore - which in itself was illegal - were 30,000 rocket propelled grenades.

Kim's doing very nicely out of sanctions, thank you. Why would he mind a few more?

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un"And then the UN passed a resolution! Tee hee hee"As a financial lever to force a rogue nation to comply with international norms, sanctions have never yet worked. Saddam Hussein ignored them, Fidel Castro was barely moved by them, Bashar al Assad is doing just fine and you might as well tell Iran it was right about America all along.

So what else could we do? Well, there's always war.

The distance from Kim's fiefdom in Pyongyang to the South Korean capital of Seoul is less than that of London to Birmingham. It's bad enough that almost 10million people live with range of his temper, never mind a nuclear missile.

There have been reports Trump is considering a surgical strike on Kim's nuclear testing facility, to knock his armed forces back into the stone age. He could do that. And Kim would promptly bomb Taiwan, or Tokyo, or Thailand, send a secret agent with a suitcase full of TNT and plutonium into Seoul, or get an Indonesian tourist to wipe some VX on the face of the nearest US ambassador.

The world's reaction to all those things would be invasion.

And Kim's not too bothered about that. It proves he was right and he is all that keeps his people from oppression by the American devils. It quells dissent at home and as a man with a conventional and nuclear arsenal he can set off a lot of big bangs which he rather enjoys. There'd be a military stalemate within a week and he'd be even more immovable than he is now.

Even if the world could somehow get rid of Kim, there'd be a population to deal with that has the same grasp of reality as a cult. A cult that's been going for three generations. If you thought the Iraq insurgency was bad, just wait until you see what appears in the vacuum Kim would leave behind.

For the same reason you can't assassinate him. It wouldn't herald democracy, there's no clear indication who'd succeed him, and whoever it was would likely have to establish their credentials by dropping a bomb on someone.

And removing the head of this particular dragon would cause chaos on a quarter of the world's surface. It would open up divisions in China, Russia, Japan; shake the Asian economy; reignite long-rumbling wars over communism and capitalism.

The USA didn't enjoy Vietnam the first time. It certainly doesn't want to do it twice.

Another option is switching sides. Issue sanctions against Donald Trump, rattle a belligerent sabre at him and see what happens.

The trouble is he'd react exactly as Kim has. He'd get stronger, madder and richer while blaming the other guy, running the blockade and plotting revenge on everyone who has more ice cream. That's how you know there's very little to choose between the leader of the Free World and the leader of the most isolated nation on Earth.

The next option is appeasement. Let Kim do as he pleases, just as we do with Trump, and hope for the best. That doesn't work either - just ask Poland.

There are two more options, and they would both work brilliantly if only anyone involved had a brain bigger than their hand.

The first is that you invite Kim to dinner. You break bread with the tyrant, treat him as an equal and hold a summit. His ego would not be able to resist, and nor could he resist having it beamed to North Korea's few television sets as proof that he has brought the capitalist demons to heal.

Which would have the beneficial effect of not only showing all those TV-owning communists that the Americans have far prettier wives than they really merit, great teeth, great gadgets and no obvious horns, but it would open North Korea to a world that has been closed to it.

Suddenly, they want an iPhone. They want to travel. They want a job that pays enough for a hot tub. They start to question why they needed a strongman to rule them with a rod of iron when the alternative is modern healthcare. And oh look, we'd get to trade minerals and gold and other things we need more than nuclear war.

The one benefit of sanctions is to turn an enslaved population into one which starts to question its leader. A summit, a trade partnership, would take that trickle of dissent and turn it into the sort of river which can move mountains.

The second option is that you move the entire western world's IT support departments to Pyongyang.

Kim's ability to communicate with his satellites would be immediately destroyed. His nuclear weapons would arbitrarily cease to recognise the passwords, security protocols for his jets would expire without warning, and any attempt to sort it out would involve three years on the phone and a nervous breakdown.

All right, quite a lot of IT support staff would be torn apart by dogs or tied down on a missile testing firing range, but who would mind?

Any attempt by the West to sort out our broadband speed or get a technician up to our floor would be met by a tirade of language we don't understand and we'd end up either fixing it ourselves or reversing our car over it, so things would remain pretty much normal for us.

To sum up: sanctions don't work, war is REALLY bad, talking can fix almost anything and any contact with the IT department leaves you in serious need of a hug. If only talking could fix computers.

The scary thing here is not that North Korea has nuclear weapons, because lots of people have had them for years and it's made war less of an option for all of them. Nor is it even that there's no-one on the international stage with the wit or gumption to sort it out.

The real danger is that there is so little difference between Kim Jong Un and Donald Trump that you could switch them around and almost nobody would notice.

The Daily Mirrorwritten by Fleet Street Foxis the pseudonym of Susan Boniface

She has several great quotes in her writing on the two I also liked how some of her descriptions of the two are tongue in cheekand as serious as this situation is that has the countries of the world each expressing opinions of Trumps outburst she still has a touch of humor re: these two drunks on a lamppost It was her name that caught my attention The Fleet Street Fox that made me wonder who the reporters name really was...I also went back and read several other of her past reporting's IMO This Fleet Street chick rocks !!!

One of the things I haven't heard from either egotists is"I really don't want a war with you!", but

DT could have been less bellicose and warmongering IF he'd prefaced his remarks with those 8 words... "I really don't want a war with you!'... BUT IF you insist, and there's no avoidance i.e. you take the first shot...then... yada, yada, yada,... It's the Teddy Roosevelt policy..."Walk softly but carry a big stick !" . .and he was a Republican (before neocons).

But DT's mantra is Tweet your ass off and bully everyone... think of the moment and not the consequences in the future... His narcissist nature says "fook everyone else I have to win" ... even if 100,000s or millions die !! "Fook them, it's ME or noting !"

IF this goes badly.. it's on Trump, his supporters, and ALL who voted for him... WASN'T it mentioned during the primaries and the election what if DT and Un had a faceoff ! And yet suoopid idiots voted for him any way.

LASTLY - Yes Un is half the problem, but our POTUS is supposed to be better than that ! This isn't supposed to be a race to the BOTTOM, but that's where it's going ! the same direction as everything else since the election.

I looked that Fleet Street up on google too it was a very interesting read about its history...but my main reason I was using google to look up the reporters name who went by The Fleet Street Fox, she wrote that post I pasted for the Daily Mirror in the UK and I just wanted to find out a bit more about her. I liked her view of the Two nuts and the possibility of one of them possibly using nuclear weapons ....her touch of humor in her writing intrigued me enough to try and learn more

I think the whole current NK situation according to idiot Trump can be summed up: if Obama was for diplomacy, I'm against it. If Obama was against nuking North Korea, I'm for it.

You hit the nail on the head.....everyone in Washington and for that matter in the world would have to turn a blind eye [and many folks unfortunately are] not to see the pure hate that he has for President Obama that is why this is some very serious scary sh....t

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