[quote name='Elissa' date='Feb 28 2013, 11:37' post='6145607']
Lol...I did see a few comments online it wasn't that great a race. It had it's moments for sure though, and the finish was exciting.

That is more of a result of the restrictor plates being used at Daytona & Talledega.
Wait til you have races from Martinvsville or Richmond to watch and you will see the amazing difference how the races are run.

I did find the adverts a distraction

Nascar is very money orientated (my opinion) and it's current business model requires loads of sponsors just to keep all involved with the sport somewhat solvent. Therefore the sponsors run loads of ads to help sell thier product.

I almost spat my tea out during the 500 when the commentator said 'Scott Speed in the lead'....I last saw him wash up in F1 years ago and thought'd he'd been swallowed up by the Earth since.

One of the "fun " aspects is seeing an underdog team actually run at the front since it's very oftenthe only time that driver and team will get mentioned at all during the telecast (think Milka Duno leading an Indycar race)

Hey folks since Elissa is a newbie how about we suggest which upcoming races we beleive would be the most enjoyable for her to watch.

So basically, if NASCAR hadn't banned him we might not have ever even heard about it?

No, but saying it in front of a NASCAR official is effectively the same thing, isn't it? When Brendan Gaughan's crew chief a couple of years ago got suspended for calling Marc Davis a epithet in the garage after Davis made a mistake, there was no cameras or recordings, but there were for 4 garage guys and a NASCAR official as witnesses and that was enough.

Apparently Clements used the word 'nigger-rigged', whatever that means. In his interview which is still not published, on a subject I'm unsure of. Maybe Danica's pole?

Ooooh that makes so much sense now.

I find the term offensive (I mean it implies that black people suck at putting things together properly). It recalls some of the really racist "bush mechanic" films from Oz about aborigines and their ingenious ways of keeping cars running. But it's hardly a flattering term, and , the n-word is the n-word.

I find the term offensive (I mean it implies that black people suck at putting things together properly). It recalls some of the really racist "bush mechanic" films from Oz about aborigines and their ingenious ways of keeping cars running. But it's hardly a flattering term, and , the n-word is the n-word.

Suspension is fair play, I'd say, though one race is enough.

I also agree, but 2 races may have been done since missing 2 racers will make it toughers with the new points systyems used in all the series.

One caveat : while it is offensive to use that word , delaying what actually was said has allowed for many alternative possibilites to be considered, which may have made things worse than just saying partially what the offensive word was right from the get go.

I find the term offensive (I mean it implies that black people suck at putting things together properly). It recalls some of the really racist "bush mechanic" films from Oz about aborigines and their ingenious ways of keeping cars running. But it's hardly a flattering term, and , the n-word is the n-word.

Suspension is fair play, I'd say, though one race is enough.

NASCAR spends zillions per year trying to rise above its well-deserved goober legacy, only to have it all undone by these episodes. I totally get why they need to come down on this stuff like a ton of bricks.

I find the term offensive (I mean it implies that black people suck at putting things together properly). It recalls some of the really racist "bush mechanic" films from Oz about aborigines and their ingenious ways of keeping cars running. But it's hardly a flattering term, and , the n-word is the n-word.

Suspension is fair play, I'd say, though one race is enough.

Those films weren't racist, they were fun. It was always the locals outsmarting some know nothing city guy, like a highstreet Londoner going to the highlands and being outdone by country nous.

No, but saying it in front of a NASCAR official is effectively the same thing, isn't it? When Brendan Gaughan's crew chief a couple of years ago got suspended for calling Marc Davis a epithet in the garage after Davis made a mistake, there was no cameras or recordings, but there were for 4 garage guys and a NASCAR official as witnesses and that was enough.

That and this are probably the only times I think the Super Secret Fine system would actually be useful. You could seriously punish them without the story getting out, and for NASCAR's own reputation they'd be better off not having it be public. Even if they're cracking down, it doesn't help the stereotypes about the series that it goes on at all.

NASCAR spends zillions per year trying to rise above its well-deserved goober legacy, only to have it all undone by these episodes. I totally get why they need to come down on this stuff like a ton of bricks.

Well, I have a serious soft spot (or was it a hard-on ) for those small teams, trying to make (not so much Nemechek though, as it seems like he is somewhat financing his Nationwide ride with Start&Park in Sprint)