Hopefully they completely revamp what it means to be a "Silver" opposed to a "Gold" member. I have had my XBL subscription since the original brick of a box, but lately I just don't see the appeal opposed to the fact I need to pay in order to play. But if I pay why should I be bombarded with ads? Hell if I sub here I can escape ads!

Gotta feeling that if MS charges for online gaming on the Next box they will lose a lot of potential console owners especially if it Launches around the same time as the PS4 ,A lot of people shunned the PS3 because of it's poor online infrastructure at the Time but now they have a PSN service thats basically on par with a GOLD sub minus the X- Game Chat and a couple of other small features.

Gotta feeling that if MS charges for online gaming on the Next box they will lose a lot of potential console owners especially if it Launches around the same time as the PS4 ,A lot of people shunned the PS3 because of it's poor online infrastructure at the Time but now they have a PSN service thats basically on par with a GOLD sub minus the X- Game Chat and a couple of other small features.

I don't think it will make that much of a difference either way. MS is charging now and it hasn't affected sales. Like you said, PSN is now basically on par with Live and the 360 is still selling well.

If MS shows a commitment to new exclusives I'll gladly pay the $40 year that I'm paying now.

I don't think it will make that much of a difference either way. MS is charging now and it hasn't affected sales. Like you said, PSN is now basically on par with Live and the 360 is still selling well.

If MS shows a commitment to new exclusives I'll gladly pay the $40 year that I'm paying now.

MS sure done good job this gen, but last 2 years is not as fun for them like you described...

Paying a small fee won't hurt me either , but if there is a free service smillar on another platform , this will definitely effect my choice.

Hopefully they completely revamp what it means to be a "Silver" opposed to a "Gold" member. I have had my XBL subscription since the original brick of a box, but lately I just don't see the appeal opposed to the fact I need to pay in order to play. But if I pay why should I be bombarded with ads? Hell if I sub here I can escape ads!

I never understand these bombarded with ads comments. I usually see one or two ads and the rest is either a trailer of a game or some games that are on sale at a discount,etc. Stuff like that. And nothing that ever gets in the way of just launching my game. Maybe some people are more used to staring at a barren XMB.

I never understand these bombarded with ads comments. I usually see one or two ads and the rest is either a trailer of a game or some games that are on sale at a discount,etc. Stuff like that. And nothing that ever gets in the way of just launching my game. Maybe some people are more used to staring at a barren XMB.

It's simply hyperbole to get across the point that a paid for service should not have ads. In that respect I agree. However, they are not at all intrusive and I hardly ever notice them.

Yeah it's the small bottom right pane that gets an ad spot if I remember right. It's not very intrusive at all and I honestly don't notice them. It's not like youtube where you have to wait part of an ad before you can watch a vid. But on XBL the more people get used to the ads - as they are now - the more they will push them. But we'll see!

I'm willing to bet the next xbox's OS will be more customizable. (like the WP8 live tiles, or W8's metro start screen) So if you don't have the option to remove ads completely, you may be able to resize them.

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