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Are you a fan of Muse? (Who wouldn't be?) If so, why not spend your nights fan-girling about the world-famous British rock band here! Whether you love their music or you're just in love with Matt Bellamy, this is the place to be for anything- and everything-Muse.

For those that are unfamiliar with muse or just want to hear some more of their music, I'll provide a few songs to sample:

I find muse is one of those bands that releases some songs that you love and others that you hate. My personal favourites are Uprising, Undisclosed Desires and Supermassive Black Hole but I enjoy most of their music. Sometimes though they just bring out terrible stuff like the dubstep sort of stuff on their latest album. They're a good band but far from the best.

Muse are a pretty interesting band for me - but honestly, lately I've figured that much of that interest just arises from how they go about making music than it strictly being good music. Indeed, I've found them to be one of the most hit-and-miss bands I've ever come across. Although when they get it right, they do definitely get it really right! I just feel like they don't do that enough given how much time they've had now. Definitely feel like they're just about staying afloat on one or two songs with every new album release now and struggling to come up with new stuff the way I imagine them wanting to. I mean, this weird rock x dubstep lovechild? Really?

Nonetheless, they've been awesome in the past, definitely! Absolution, although not in my top 10 albums or anything like that, was a real masterpiece and was imo their best work before they started tipping a little bit. Black Holes and Revelations was pretty decent too but afterwards... eh. I'm finding it harder to like them now.

However, what we should all be talking about, is how good they are live. While some of the stuff they do live is comparable to Lady Gaga's wardrobe in terms of usefulness and practicality, there's no denying that they can put on one hell of a show. I saw then back in September 2010, I think, at Wembley and they were playing a load of stuff from The Resistance which, while not totally my cup of tea, didn't matter one bit - because the show was just so incredible omfg. If you consider yourself a fan of them to any degree and you've not yet managed to see them then, well, do it. You'll not regret it.

I'm not a huge fan of Muse, but I do enjoy their music. Whenever I catch a song of theirs on the radio, I'll listen. I have a few downloaded, not a lot though. I actually do have one of their albums, Resistance, which I do enjoy and listen to quite a lot.

Haven't listened to them in a while, I hear their new album blows (I hear the dubstep has something to do with that; no surprise). Shame too, I've really liked all of their albums (except their first, I thought that was meh).

Ironically enough i got into Muse by doing a reading book in my English class called "1984" turns out Muse based a whole lot of an album on that novel (Can't remember which one :/). Hence the song title "United States of Eurasia" (Read the book or watch the movie to get it)
I wouldn't say i'm heavily into them by i enjoy their music and listen to it from time to time.

Oh God yes. I've seen them live twice so far and they're just... ahhhhhhhhhhh. First time I was unlucky and could only get balcony tickets, but the second time I managed to get into the standing area and was so close to Bellamy I could almost touch him. ;;;; They're simply an amazing live band; their creativity with the whole production and Bellamy's natural stage presence go hand-in-hand to form something truly wonderful when they perform live. There's no quality lost at all in their performance which is rare for a lot of bands and they always manage to shake up the set list to cater for everyone's loves, so they certainly haven't won countless awards in this area for no reason.

How many people here have seen them live? Which tour(s) did you go to?

Muse was my favourite band for about 4~4 1/2 years. Catching on to them almost as soon as "Black Holes and Revelations" came out. I'm about to go Super-Fanboy on 'yall so I'll politely spoiler the rest for all of you that don't want drool all over you battle-stations.

Spoiler:

1.Showbiz (Album)
5 out of 5
I won't lie, I'm fairly certain I like every track on this album. Even if I forget about them half the time. If I had to choose a favourite track though, it would probably be "Cave". However I change my mind so often, This album might not be my favourite, but it's so solid it's ridiculous

2."Origin of Symmetry"
5 out of 5
Out of the 4 Muse Albums I rate 5 out of 5 this is the weakest of them. It's nothing but personal preference honestly. I enjoy all the tracks on this album as well, I just feel like "Absolution", "Showbiz", "Black Holes and Revelations" and even "The Resistence" seem to get more airtime on my Zune. It's really hard to choose a favourite from this album, but if I had to put one into the spotlight, I'd probally throw out "Citizen Erased".

3."Absoution"
5 out of 5
I really, really, adore this album. I can never truly decide if I like this or "Black Holes and Revelations" as my favourite. Both were game-changers for me musically, shifting me into the Indie/Prog rock stage. I think this album has the best flow of any of the albums, it's the easiest one to listen from start to finish without feeling the need to skip tracks. My favourite song on this album is without a doubt "Butterflies and Hurricanes" It's inspiring lyrics, and beautiful instrumentals are just too good.

4."Black Holes and Revelations"
5 out of 5
Without this Album, and the Knights of Cydonia Music Video. I would of just passed Muse by until they got uber-famous with the 2nd wave of popularity the movie "Twilight" brought to "Supermassive Black Hole". I've very glad for that. I got to really get a good long listen to all 4 albums before the waves of Twilight fans would come up to me and be like "OMG MUZE?!".
I still remember that all the characters from the "Knights" music video had official Myspace Pages lol.
My favourite tracks are a tie between "Map of the Problematique" and "City of Delusion"

"Map of the Problematique"

"City of Delusion"

5."The Resistance"
4 out of 5

I think I like this album alot more than some Muse fans have, I think even more so ever since the release of "The 2nd Law" This album has alot of real winners, and alot of songs, that even though I didn't like them at first, grew to like them in time. (I'm looking at you, "Undisclosed Desires") This is the first Muse Album to have a song by them I straight up don't like "I Belong to You (Words that are in French)". As someone who really enjoys Matt's song writing, I felt that the Exogenesis was a let down. when they said that he was writing a symphany, I was expecting something more grand. That being said, my favourite track is United States of Eurasia, besides the obvious Queen throwbacks, everything just falls in place in this track, from the overall eastern feel, to the Chopin ending

6. The Stupid 2nd Law
3 out of 5

I don't find any tracks on the album to be really...bad. They are just kinda...mediocore at best. Here are a few of my personal takes on some of my lesser liked tracks.

1."Animal" sounds like it came straight off of "Ok Computer" or "In Rainbows". While this isn't the worst thing in the world. I used to be able to (depending on how stubborn the person was) persuade people that Muse was not a Radiohead clone, and that they had quite a bit that distinguished them. This song kinda throw a wrench in that argument.

2.The 2nd Law: Unsustainable, while interesting and unique in theory, comes off as just kinda unimpressive to me. The "Drop" just sounds far to much like "Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites" to make me feel like it's something special. I will say the idea was REALLY cool. I hope they find a way to expand on it and make it their own, but that track wasn't it. At least not for me. Also the 2nd Half of Unsustainable was just.....boring. good piano work aside.

I think with time I might give this album a better rating, but as it is now, I still feel disappointed by it. My fav track is without a doubt Panic Station (That yell halfway through OMG)

Random Fanboy-isms

I love both of the Does It Offend You Yeah Remixes

Adam Lambert actually used a song written by Matt, the original Muse version never was released on a label, but youtube is a sorcerer.

and finally, to end my super kawaii fan-time, I leave you with a few other reasons why Matt and the rest of the crew are pretty much awesome.

Please be aware that the videos posted from this point on contain swearing and reckless tomfoolery.

All That being said however, I still have not seen them Live

Edit: Sorry about the first version of this post, I'm still working out the kinks of my newbness

I'm a huge fan of Muse...! Okay, I didn't know half of the songs posted here. I first heard them around 2009 or so, probably. I remember hearing Uprising on the radio a lot. That's one beauty of this band for me - every song amazingly delivers and I am always finding new songs.

My personal favorites are Madness, Neutron Star Collision, Resistance, Invincible, and Starlight. I can simply close my eyes and find myself in a new and better place... My favorite part in Madness would be the part starting from 3:06 in the music video Ozzy linked. How could anyone not like it? :P Sometimes, I initially don't like a song, but eventually I grow fond of it, like Bliss and Stockholm Syndrome.

I've never been to a live convert, cry. If I had the choice, I would definitely go see Muse perform live. :)

Oh god, that video of Feeling Good being played drunk kills my every time haha. The megaphone verse... I can't even, it's just so funny. So out of character for Matt, it's adorable watching him like that! And when they got offended by Uprising having to be played from the recorded version so they all swap instruments with Matt's cheeky smile on the drums and the interviewer not noticing, they really do have some great bloopers haha.

Quote originally posted by TwilightBlade:

I'm a huge fan of Muse...! Okay, I didn't know half of the songs posted here. I first heard them around 2009 or so, probably. I remember hearing Uprising on the radio a lot. That's one beauty of this band for me - every song amazingly delivers and I am always finding new songs.

Baby you need to listen to Showbiz! It's their first album but there's soo many gems in it, it's really worth a listen if you haven't already. My personal favourite is Sunburn shot back when they were still geeky teens, but you also need to listen to Uno, Cave, Muscle Museum, Unintended (although I think I played you that one already!) and Fillip. Such a good album, honestly!

That's a rather rare opinion! Can I ask why you like The 2nd Law so much? :D It's one of those albums that I really want to love since it's not bad music or anything, but for some reason I can't seem to embrace it like their older work. It's probably just because Showbiz was a very decent album, leading onto Origin of Symmetry was was simply incredible, then to Absolution and Black Holes which were both even better than the last only being topped by The Resistance, and then they come out with The 2nd Law which... I guess it just didn't follow the trend in my eyes! It's unarguably (for me!) a good album, I just think they peaked their career around Black Holes/Resistance. But hopefully they've still got a lot left to give!

Am I the only one who thinks that both Knights of Cydonia and Panic Station are totally underrated songs? I don't understand why so many people see Madness as the best song on The 2nd Law, when in my eyes Panic Station is so much better and not just a lame U2 ripoff.
As for favorite album....I'd have to say Black Holes and Revelations. They had sooo many goods songs on that one, from Supermassive Black Hole to Starlight to Assassin. I still like the Resistance and The 2nd Law, but I liked the sound that they brought on Black Holes better.

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I'm a silhouette, asking every now and then
Is it over yet? Will I ever feel again?
I'm a silhouette, chasing rainbows on my own
But the more I try to move on, the more I feel alone
So I watch the summer stars to lead me home.

Am I the only one who thinks that both Knights of Cydonia and Panic Station are totally underrated songs? I don't understand why so many people see Madness as the best song on The 2nd Law, when in my eyes Panic Station is so much better and not just a lame U2 ripoff.
As for favorite album....I'd have to say Black Holes and Revelations. They had sooo many goods songs on that one, from Supermassive Black Hole to Starlight to Assassin. I still like the Resistance and The 2nd Law, but I liked the sound that they brought on Black Holes better.

I'm with you 110% actually, Panic Station is the best track on The 2nd Law. I kinda wonder why you think "Knights of Cydonia" as underrated though, overshadowed perhaps, due to later hits such as "Starlight" and the twilight fan-fuled "Supermassive Black Hole", but it was a rather large hit for them. Even making an appearance in Guitar Hero, and having the characters from the music video having their own official Myspaces. (I'm going to try to dig those up agian)

I feel Madness is more of a Queen Rip off, in fact, it sounds VERY similar to the Queen Song "I Want to Break Free"

Also, since we're on the topic of "Knights of Cydonia" Did you know it's a small tribute to Matt's dad George Bellamy and his dad's band "The Tornadoes" with the song borrowing heavly from the song "Telstar"

@Alex I've acually heard that they were in fact not drunk, but were asked not to swear on the program, but, I mean that's hard to confirm.

That does sound extremely similar to Madness, but I still think this sounds closer to it.

And the Telstar tune does sound a lot like it too.

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I'm a silhouette, asking every now and then
Is it over yet? Will I ever feel again?
I'm a silhouette, chasing rainbows on my own
But the more I try to move on, the more I feel alone
So I watch the summer stars to lead me home.

I'm not sure Knights of Cydonia can really be called underrated, that song was (and still is!) huuuuge, it's one of their most highly rated songs ahah. But I agree so much about Panic Station, that song is utterly amazing. I don't care how similar it is to Another One Bites The Dust, it's just such an amazing song. It's one that you can instantly get into as soon as the intro starts and once you've listened to it a few times and get to know the lyrics etc, it's just amazing! Definitely my favourite from The 2nd Law.

Quote originally posted by DavidtheDeadPhilosopher:

I feel Madness is more of a Queen Rip off, in fact, it sounds VERY similar to the Queen Song "I Want to Break Free"

Oh god yes, could not agree more. Especially the solo, it just screams Queen. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing - I don't really mind if it sounds like other bands as long as it sounds good. It is a really good song that's for sure, but I definitely wouldn't call it the best on the album by any means.

Quote originally posted by DavidtheDeadPhilosopher:

Also, since we're on the topic of "Knights of Cydonia" Did you know it's a small tribute to Matt's dad George Bellamy and his dad's band "The Tornadoes" with the song borrowing heavly from the song "Telstar"

Oh wow, I didn't know this! I can't listen to the video right now so remind me later, but I'm actually really surprised to hear this. I didn't think Muse did that kind of thing much haha, Knights of Cydonia seemed like such an original and unique song - partly why it receives so much endless praise! How heavily does it borrow from the song?

Quote originally posted by DavidtheDeadPhilosopher:

@Alex I've acually heard that they were in fact not drunk, but were asked not to swear on the program, but, I mean that's hard to confirm.

My little brother's big Muse fan. He has all 6 of their (studio) albums. As for me, I'm a fan of their work but I don't listen to them as much as he does. I know mainly the hit singles along with a few others. Some of my favorite are Madness, Panic Station, Supermassive Black Hole, Uprising, Stockholm Syndrome, I Belong To You, Hysteria, Knights of Cydonia , Supremacy, and Starlight. The only of their albums I've listened to fully, though is The @nd Law, so I can't fully compare it to their other albums. But I really like it and I don't get what's so bad about the "dubstep" parts. I don't see it as them trying to be "radio-friendly" or "popular" or anything but I see it as them just experimenting. All good artist experiment from time to time and from the songs I've heard of their, it sounds like they like to change it up every album. And personally I see nothing wrong with a band or artist who wants to experiment with their sound and that people complain too much when and artist changes their style. Honestly if they said the same, people would get bored and complain that they're not changing. Okay rant over.
So I think The 2nd Law is a pretty good album imo and is underrated but I love alot of their other stuff a little more. Though I like dubstep so that makes me enjoy it a little more. *shrugs*

@Alex Ok, well to be honest heavily might of been too strong of a term, influence might of been the better word, but if you listen to the song (conveniently placed reminder), you'll hear it in the song flow, and structure.

@AWsquared I <3 Dubstep (or at least some of it), and while I'm on the bandwagon for Muse experimentation, I just felt that the result was overall weak and uninteresting in the studio recording. There is still the wonderful fact that they created all those sounds with a guitar!. Which is Awesome! I feel like hearing the tracks live would be just the best!.

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