Then it's off to Debauchery 2015,
where during a cigar social Gray interviews the Action Bastard.
He's the devious mind behind Bastard Ropes and the rumors of his death
are vastly overestimated - both times. By the end of
the conversation some deeper subjects come up, and he and Gray
reference Midori's podcast where she discussed the mixed emotions
vets can feel when they hear "Thank you for your
service."

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