GG. I know, shipping hurts. But it is for the little guy. -Everything or at least most things from Amazon ship for free if the order is $25 or more. So, if I need/want an item, it goes on my wish list until I can get to $25. And I digress.

If it's any consolation, I received a box of Dr. Krackers (which I thoroughly enjoyed) neatly packed in the box along with my 2012 Murmur. I believe they used the cracker box to prevent any shifting during the delivery process. Worth the shipping? Yup! Since then, I bought two more boxes of that stuff (the crackers, not the murmurs).

Yea i paid about the same to for them to ship a 1.5oz 1/8 pad, a 1oz polycro grondsheet and a pack liner!!!! absolute bs.. I don't care what their excuse is. They could have put that in an envelope and put a stamp on it. shipping should never be more than 5-6

I have bought a lot of stuff from GG and many other cottage manufacturers. You know the shipping price before hand. If it is too much money, then don't buy it.

I have been very happy dealing with GG. If I need a small item, I wait and grab a couple other things when I need them to combine items for shipping, or buy more than one, such as pads. I don't want GG to fold and stuff a pad into an envelope. I want it in a box.

Nice pack. Don't worry about the shipping. They could always add another ten bucks and call it free shipping for over $70, I guess. Somebody has to pay for it somewhere...you eventually, it doesn't really matter, but you would have a real complaint if they lost one in shipping. At least this way they are covered and will ship you another if the post office looses one...

I bought the murmur when it was on sale. You are going to love this pack. Lots of room and mesh pockets swallow up alot. It can't handle my large section hikes but will be my go to in warmer months and shorter trips.

"You know the shipping price before hand. If it is too much money, then don't buy it."Nick FTW! It does indeed say what you're paying before you finish the order.

I also can't stand shipping charges for really light and cheap items (I'm talking polycryo ground cloth), but you can always call the company and ask if they can stuff the pack into a small USPS flat rate box. I think they used to do that if you asked nicely, and it can't hurt to check.

I just had a similar shipping cost experience with GG. I own 2 of their packs and wanted a few accessories (hip belt pockets and a pad). Their shipping cost was very high, $12.95 (Austin to Seattle) for a $36.95 order. I emailed GG and they told me they will only ship priority so they can track the package. Joe at Zpacks ships much cheaper using USPS 1st class that comes sans tracking. My last shipping charge from Joe was $3.95. I don't need the tracking and wish GG would give their customers a cheaper option. I really like GG's products but I won't subsidize their shipping preferences. The shipping cost killed my GG order. I am putting together a small order from Zpacks and will buy their hip belt pockets instead and cut down an old Zrest pad until I find the pad I want on the Gear Trade forum.

thanks for the discussion. i agree with most of you. if it was sent usps priority mail in a plastic bag, it would have cost $5.95 or less, and would have been delivered in 2 days most likely. and why not use the united states post office? gg puts a big "made in america" patch on some of their stuff, so you would think they would be all over it.

i hope that glen and team is reading...we love your packs, but the lack of shipping options puts a bad taste in many people's mouth...

I have seen this a lot lately. I was going to buy a pair of gloves and a Light My Fire Firesteel at one place and they wanted $12.65 for 8 ounces. I almost bought some of the Golite Tumalo pants at their website for a friend but it was $9.95 for shipping on 7oz. Don't even get me started on Patagonia when they don't have the $75+ free shipping. Personally I always use USPS because it is always a better deal even for Priority and I ask the businesses I buy from to use it when they ship to me. So now I just write a list of the few items I want and I will go through to find a business with decent prices that will ship free on at least $XX.

" I almost bought some of the Golite Tumalo pants at their website for a friend but it was $9.95 for shipping on 7oz."

Wow you Americans have it rough. Last week I shipped an 8 gram (0.3oz) stuff sack to a fellow Canadian. Because it had a buckle, it couldn't be called a letter so it cost me $15 for that 'parcel'. Canada Post got rid of their small packet and slow parcel shipping options within Canada, so anything that's not a letter has to be sent as a 'expedited parcel' or worse. I could have sent the same stuff sack to an American for half as much.