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As soon as I saw that image, without reading any of the text, the first thing that came to mind was that ... well ... that is a really vacuous expression.

Remember I am a bit of an aspie so I am interested in normie interpretations. So what did you guys think?

Confirmed.

[quote=AndrewV69 post_id=492353 time= user_id=56] As soon as I saw that image, without reading any of the text, the first thing that came to mind was that ... well ... that is a really vacuous expression.

Remember I am a bit of an aspie so I am interested in normie interpretations. So what did you guys think?[/quote]

Well, yesterday, my job finally revolved-around someone in that vein: a rookie for the Mets who hit a record 47 home runs this season.

In contrast to all the red-carpet/expensive private security/fancy backstage snacks... which I'm used-to with less-dude-ish celebrity guests...

this guy just walked into a cellphone store in Times Square in street clothes & sat on a bench chatting-with fans, signing autographs, posing for selfies.
If you bought a phone, you got a Mets phone-case.

There was some security to keep the attendees in an orderly line... but no velvet ropes or VIP-room nonsense.

I built the bench he sat on, then dismantled it when he left. Easy peasy.

Well, yesterday, my job finally revolved-around someone in that vein: a rookie for the Mets who hit a record 47 home runs this season.

In contrast to all the red-carpet/expensive private security/fancy backstage snacks... which I'm used-to with less-dude-ish celebrity guests...

this guy just walked into a cellphone store in Times Square in street clothes & sat on a bench chatting-with fans, signing autographs, posing for selfies.If you bought a phone, you got a Mets phone-case.

There was some security to keep the attendees in an orderly line... but no velvet ropes or VIP-room nonsense.

I built the bench he sat on, then dismantled it when he left. Easy peasy.

A Service Dog walked into a bar today.
Apparently NYC now requires bar employees (and who-else?) to hold a certification in Sexual Harassment.

To obtain the certification, the bartender must endure an online session, consisting of over 150 screens of indoctrination.

Alternately, the bartender can start the session while bartending-- then pass their phone to me to complete it-- in exchange for a couple IPAs,
two of those White Claw alcohol-selzer things (the Rubyred Grapefruit is delicious), and an expensive organic Bareburger.

One screen tells the story of "Mike" who works on a construction site, with a team of 5 men. "They talk about their sexual experiences throughout the day, which makes me uncomfortable. I don't join in. Two guys give me a hard time. They say I'm not a real man. They also joke about me having sex with other men."

The next screen says "Is it sexual harassment? Yes." Ok... I suppose... if that's how the state defines it, sure. But...

the next screen says "Did you know? 13% of men have experience sexual harassment at work."

Bullshit! If sexual harassment includes dudes bragging about sex at work & teasing each-other about sex... 13% is way too low.

Again, sexual harassment includes All Sorts Of Things, like failing to mind-read when someone lies to you & pretends they're more interested in continuing to have sex with you, than they really are...https://i.imgur.com/uNDn6tX.jpg?1

Later, the thing lists legit ways for someone to withdraw consent. The list includes "making excuses". So telling someone you Do want to have sex with them but [insert any implausible lie here] is considered ample notice that you Don't want to have sex with them.

MANY of the screens are about Gender harassment. More than once, the screens say that All Sexual Harassment is a form of Gender Harassment, because gender and sex are 'connected'. Or maybe it was All Gender Harassment is Sexual Harassment because sex and gender are connected? Or was it both?

On top of that, examples are given-- like commenting on someone's haircut. We are taught that comments about someone's appearance relates-to their Body--> which relates to their Gender--> which Relates to Sex. That's a massive expansion of the sexual harassment bureaucrats' jurisdiction... when they add Gender to their beat.

Later, there's a different (contradictory) screen-- about one co-worker complementing another's haircut. That's one of the few (only?) times that the correct answer on the ensuing "Is it Sexual Harassment?" isn't a predictable "Yes." But-- this time-- even tho the answer is now No/it's not sexual harassment... we are then told that the manager removed the false-accuser with the complimented-hair from her shift with the accused-guy. And THAT is sexual harassment. An employer must treat false delusional claims of harassment as-if they are real, and not do anything to disturb the complainer who "feels" they have been harassed-- or-else that's "Retaliation", a form of sexual harassment.

Employers are also responsible for the actions of "Third Parties", such as a hotel owner-- who is responsible if a hotel guest tells a hijab-wearing receptionist that he'd love to see her hair, and she'd look better if it were uncovered. The hotel owner must take action or be in violation of the law. The religious expression of the receptionist is protected, at the expense of the free speech expression of the hotel guest, and the This Has Nothing To Do With Me of the hotel owner.

A Service Dog walked into a bar today.Apparently NYC now requires bar employees (and who-else?) to hold a certification in Sexual Harassment.

To obtain the certification, the bartender must endure an online session, consisting of over 150 screens of indoctrination.

Alternately, the bartender can start the session while bartending-- then pass their phone to me to complete it-- in exchange for a couple IPAs,two of those White Claw alcohol-selzer things (the Rubyred Grapefruit is delicious), and an expensive organic Bareburger.

One screen tells the story of "Mike" who works on a construction site, with a team of 5 men. "They talk about their sexual experiences throughout the day, which makes me uncomfortable. I don't join in. Two guys give me a hard time. They say I'm not a real man. They also joke about me having sex with other men."

The next screen says "Is it sexual harassment? Yes." Ok... I suppose... if that's how the state defines it, sure. But...

the next screen says "Did you know? 13% of men have experience sexual harassment at work."

Bullshit! If sexual harassment includes dudes bragging about sex at work & teasing each-other about sex... 13% is way too low.

Again, sexual harassment includes All Sorts Of Things, like failing to mind-read when someone lies to you & pretends they're more interested in continuing to have sex with you, than they really are...[img]https://i.imgur.com/uNDn6tX.jpg?1[/img]

Later, the thing lists legit ways for someone to withdraw consent. The list includes "making excuses". So telling someone you Do want to have sex with them but [insert any implausible lie here] is considered ample notice that you Don't want to have sex with them.

MANY of the screens are about Gender harassment. More than once, the screens say that All Sexual Harassment is a form of Gender Harassment, because gender and sex are 'connected'. Or maybe it was All Gender Harassment is Sexual Harassment because sex and gender are connected? Or was it both?

On top of that, examples are given-- like commenting on someone's haircut. We are taught that comments about someone's appearance relates-to their Body--> which relates to their Gender--> which Relates to Sex. That's a massive expansion of the sexual harassment bureaucrats' jurisdiction... when they add Gender to their beat.

Later, there's a different (contradictory) screen-- about one co-worker complementing another's haircut. That's one of the few (only?) times that the correct answer on the ensuing "Is it Sexual Harassment?" isn't a predictable "Yes." But-- this time-- even tho the answer is now No/it's not sexual harassment... we are then told that the manager removed the false-accuser with the complimented-hair from her shift with the accused-guy. And THAT is sexual harassment. An employer must treat false delusional claims of harassment as-if they are real, and not do anything to disturb the complainer who "feels" they have been harassed-- or-else that's "Retaliation", a form of sexual harassment.

Employers are also responsible for the actions of "Third Parties", such as a hotel owner-- who is responsible if a hotel guest tells a hijab-wearing receptionist that he'd love to see her hair, and she'd look better if it were uncovered. The hotel owner must take action or be in violation of the law. The religious expression of the receptionist is protected, at the expense of the free speech expression of the hotel guest, and the This Has Nothing To Do With Me of the hotel owner.

A good thing Canadian elections aren't as loony as the US or the UK:[url]https://www.straight.com/news/1302251/andrew-scheers-newest-problem-old-video-faith-goldy-lavishly-praising-justina-mccaffrey[/url]

I think the most damaging thing about Beto’s comments about seizing guns is not what he initially said. It’s his reply to that Texas state rep, who basically stated that Beto was welcome to try to take his rifle. Beto said it was a death threat, reported him to the FBI, and said he’s the kind of nut who shouldn’t have a gun. People who were considering supporting red flag laws will have to think twice now. If that’s all it takes to get flagged by some weak kneed liberal, then no thank you. They will flag every deplorable in the US.

I think the most damaging thing about Beto’s comments about seizing guns is not what he initially said. It’s his reply to that Texas state rep, who basically stated that Beto was welcome to try to take his rifle. Beto said it was a death threat, reported him to the FBI, and said he’s the kind of nut who shouldn’t have a gun. People who were considering supporting red flag laws will have to think twice now. If that’s all it takes to get flagged by some weak kneed liberal, then no thank you. They will flag every deplorable in the US.

Why does it always come down to lashing out to do harm to others? It’s another lawsuit by a man who lost prestige over his acts of sexual harassment, now thinking he can recover his dignity by punishing someone else. It won’t work. He won’t win, and even if he did, it’s not going to make him more employable.

In Peez's personal little clown world, Silverman's guilt is already established. Therefore, the lawsuit isn't there to establish his innocence, it's there to rescue his 'prestige'. Fucking insane. Look at that last sentence - Peez admits it doesn't matter if Silverman won, because he's already been found guilty in the court of Peez and the verdict cannot possibly be overturned.

Someone, out there, please - bring a #metoo allegation against PZ Myers. It doesn't matter if it's false, because as Peez demonstrates, if an ideologue thinks it's true, then it is true. And I'm sure Peez will accept the judgment accordingly...if he's willing to live by the standards he sets for others.

Which he won't of course, because this is a facile rendition of a man who claims to vegetarian while stuffing fried pig down his gullet because 'there were no vegetarian options on the menu.'

I can more easily imagine a world where Peez pathetically accepts the false allegation and publicly flagellates himself than the world where all his illusions crash down around him and he finally sees reality at face value. That would be one hell of a sea change.

[quote=Tigzy post_id=492342 time= user_id=171]Here's Catpeezle's take on the Silverman thing:

[quote]Why does it always come down to lashing out to do harm to others? It’s another lawsuit by a man who lost prestige over his acts of sexual harassment, now thinking he can recover his dignity by punishing someone else. It won’t work. He won’t win, and even if he did, it’s not going to make him more employable.[/quote]

In Peez's personal little clown world, Silverman's guilt is already established. Therefore, the lawsuit isn't there to establish his innocence, it's there to rescue his 'prestige'. Fucking insane. Look at that last sentence - Peez admits it doesn't matter if Silverman won, because he's already been found guilty in the court of Peez and the verdict cannot possibly be overturned.

Someone, out there, please - bring a #metoo allegation against PZ Myers. It doesn't matter if it's false, because as Peez demonstrates, if an ideologue thinks it's true, then it is true. And I'm sure Peez will accept the judgment accordingly...if he's willing to live by the standards he sets for others.

Which he won't of course, because this is a facile rendition of a man who claims to vegetarian while stuffing fried pig down his gullet because 'there were no vegetarian options on the menu.'[/quote]

I can more easily imagine a world where Peez pathetically accepts the false allegation and publicly flagellates himself than the world where all his illusions crash down around him and he finally sees reality at face value. That would be one hell of a sea change.

If one of those gun-confiscating leftists becomes president, I will actually go out and buy an AR-15. (Or rather a SIG 556 if I can get one.)

It is funny that his proposal will probably increase sales of AR-15s. In the time between the proposal and the actual law the sales will skyrocket. The manufacturers no doubt up production when they think a ban is coming. So these types of campaign promises only serve to put more guns out there. Maybe Beto is working for the gun lobby.

If one of those gun-confiscating leftists becomes president, I will actually go out and buy an AR-15. (Or rather a SIG 556 if I can get one.)[/quote]

It is funny that his proposal will probably increase sales of AR-15s. In the time between the proposal and the actual law the sales will skyrocket. The manufacturers no doubt up production when they think a ban is coming. So these types of campaign promises only serve to put more guns out there. Maybe Beto is working for the gun lobby.

Why does it always come down to lashing out to do harm to others? It’s another lawsuit by a man who lost prestige over his acts of sexual harassment, now thinking he can recover his dignity by punishing someone else. It won’t work. He won’t win, and even if he did, it’s not going to make him more employable.

In Peez's personal little clown world, Silverman's guilt is already established. Therefore, the lawsuit isn't there to establish his innocence, it's there to rescue his 'prestige'. Fucking insane. Look at that last sentence - Peez admits it doesn't matter if Silverman won, because he's already been found guilty in the court of Peez and the verdict cannot possibly be overturned.

Someone, out there, please - bring a #metoo allegation against PZ Myers. It doesn't matter if it's false, because as Peez demonstrates, if an ideologue thinks it's true, then it is true. And I'm sure Peez will accept the judgment accordingly...if he's willing to live by the standards he sets for others.

Which he won't of course, because this is a facile rendition of a man who claims to vegetarian while stuffing fried pig down his gullet because 'there were no vegetarian options on the menu.'

Here's Catpeezle's take on the Silverman thing:

[quote]Why does it always come down to lashing out to do harm to others? It’s another lawsuit by a man who lost prestige over his acts of sexual harassment, now thinking he can recover his dignity by punishing someone else. It won’t work. He won’t win, and even if he did, it’s not going to make him more employable.[/quote]

In Peez's personal little clown world, Silverman's guilt is already established. Therefore, the lawsuit isn't there to establish his innocence, it's there to rescue his 'prestige'. Fucking insane. Look at that last sentence - Peez admits it doesn't matter if Silverman won, because he's already been found guilty in the court of Peez and the verdict cannot possibly be overturned.

Someone, out there, please - bring a #metoo allegation against PZ Myers. It doesn't matter if it's false, because as Peez demonstrates, if an ideologue thinks it's true, then it is true. And I'm sure Peez will accept the judgment accordingly...if he's willing to live by the standards he sets for others.

Which he won't of course, because this is a facile rendition of a man who claims to vegetarian while stuffing fried pig down his gullet because 'there were no vegetarian options on the menu.'

" I was the first to establish comprehensive codes of conduct to atheist conventions"

"the first to specifically champion women speaker equality in convention lineups; the first atheist leader to shout down those who were harassing women (“Speaking Out Against Hate Directed at Women”)"

"I have been a feminist my entire life, and it’s a title I still hold close, even as the term has been tainted."

#metoo is a great and important idea that is being abused by bad actors who abuse the fact that they will be believed without question, and everyone is threatened by this attack on traditional liberal values. There can be no justice without due process - I’m living proof. That’s why I’m suing those who have slandered and lied about who I am. Liars and their mantra-speaking followers are doing a disservice against real victims of sexual assault and harassment and will make it harder for them to speak out, which is wholly repugnant to me and hopefully everyone. Women who falsely accuse men of sexual misconduct are criminals in need of prosecution, and we have the civic duty to protect the integrity of #metoo and the victims it has helped.

He's still not taking the red pill. Some improvement, but still not getting it.

He simultaneously says #metoo is a "great idea" but but also that it will be abused by bad actors because they will be "believed without question."

Maybe the fact that they will be "believed without question" should be a wake-up call as to why #metoo wasn't such a great idea after all.

But then he's been a feminist his entire life. He just doesn't seem to realise, or want to realise, that, much like religion, feminism is just another type of brainwashing. Honestly, so many cases of people being #metoo'ed into oblivion, and then returning months later with proof that the claims made against them were complete bullshit, after which either the damage had already been done and they had to start over from scratch or they came back stronger than ever. History informs us the fallibility of witch hunts, but people apparently don't even take the time to reflect on things anymore. They just react.

I would say I'm sympathetic to his plight, but what was it he said to Justin Vacula? "Denounce the shit"? Dave, you've waded in shit, now you need to denounce it.

Precisely. He believed everything the lice-infested muffers at FTB said. Like a lot of "skeptics", his skepticism vanished when it came to complete bullshit seeping out of the filthy mouth of a Stephanie Zvan or whoever it was.

He failed to realise that as the head of a notable organisation, but not quite drinking the full Kool Aid with the SJWers, an "allegation" was never far away.....

[quote]" I was the first to establish comprehensive codes of conduct to atheist conventions"

"the first to specifically champion women speaker equality in convention lineups; the first atheist leader to shout down those who were harassing women (“Speaking Out Against Hate Directed at Women”)"

"I have been a feminist my entire life, and it’s a title I still hold close, even as the term has been tainted."

#metoo is a great and important idea that is being abused by bad actors who abuse the fact that they will be believed without question, and everyone is threatened by this attack on traditional liberal values. There can be no justice without due process - I’m living proof. That’s why I’m suing those who have slandered and lied about who I am. Liars and their mantra-speaking followers are doing a disservice against real victims of sexual assault and harassment and will make it harder for them to speak out, which is wholly repugnant to me and hopefully everyone. Women who falsely accuse men of sexual misconduct are criminals in need of prosecution, and we have the civic duty to protect the integrity of #metoo and the victims it has helped.[/quote]

He's still not taking the red pill. Some improvement, but still not getting it.[/quote]

He simultaneously says #metoo is a "great idea" but but also that it will be abused by bad actors because they will be "believed without question."

Maybe the fact that they will be "believed without question" should be a wake-up call as to why #metoo wasn't such a great idea after all.

But then he's been a feminist his entire life. He just doesn't seem to realise, or want to realise, that, much like religion, feminism is just another type of brainwashing. Honestly, so many cases of people being #metoo'ed into oblivion, and then returning months later with proof that the claims made against them were complete bullshit, after which either the damage had already been done and they had to start over from scratch or they came back stronger than ever. History informs us the fallibility of witch hunts, but people apparently don't even take the time to reflect on things anymore. They just react.

I would say I'm sympathetic to his plight, but what was it he said to Justin Vacula? "Denounce the shit"? Dave, you've waded in shit, now you need to denounce it.[/quote]

Precisely. He believed everything the lice-infested muffers at FTB said. Like a lot of "skeptics", his skepticism vanished when it came to complete bullshit seeping out of the filthy mouth of a Stephanie Zvan or whoever it was.

He failed to realise that as the head of a notable organisation, but not quite drinking the full Kool Aid with the SJWers, an "allegation" was never far away.....

I won't say this on WEIT, since I'd probably be insta-banned, but if the term "cultural appropriation" could ever be reasonably applied to an artist, Amy Winehouse would surely be at the top of the list. Jeez, talk about shamelessly looting the genre, hook line and sinker.

I won't say this on WEIT, since I'd probably be insta-banned, but if the term "cultural appropriation" could ever be reasonably applied to an artist, Amy Winehouse would surely be at the top of the list. Jeez, talk about shamelessly looting the genre, hook line and sinker.

" I was the first to establish comprehensive codes of conduct to atheist conventions"

"the first to specifically champion women speaker equality in convention lineups; the first atheist leader to shout down those who were harassing women (“Speaking Out Against Hate Directed at Women”)"

"I have been a feminist my entire life, and it’s a title I still hold close, even as the term has been tainted."

#metoo is a great and important idea that is being abused by bad actors who abuse the fact that they will be believed without question, and everyone is threatened by this attack on traditional liberal values. There can be no justice without due process - I’m living proof. That’s why I’m suing those who have slandered and lied about who I am. Liars and their mantra-speaking followers are doing a disservice against real victims of sexual assault and harassment and will make it harder for them to speak out, which is wholly repugnant to me and hopefully everyone. Women who falsely accuse men of sexual misconduct are criminals in need of prosecution, and we have the civic duty to protect the integrity of #metoo and the victims it has helped.

He's still not taking the red pill. Some improvement, but still not getting it.

He simultaneously says #metoo is a "great idea" but but also that it will be abused by bad actors because they will be "believed without question."

Maybe the fact that they will be "believed without question" should be a wake-up call as to why #metoo wasn't such a great idea after all.

But then he's been a feminist his entire life. He just doesn't seem to realise, or want to realise, that, much like religion, feminism is just another type of brainwashing. Honestly, so many cases of people being #metoo'ed into oblivion, and then returning months later with proof that the claims made against them were complete bullshit, after which either the damage had already been done and they had to start over from scratch or they came back stronger than ever. History informs us the fallibility of witch hunts, but people apparently don't even take the time to reflect on things anymore. They just react.

I would say I'm sympathetic to his plight, but what was it he said to Justin Vacula? "Denounce the shit"? Dave, you've waded in shit, now you need to denounce it.

Wasn't Silverman one of the ones who made Vacula a pariah in skepticism? I hope that somewhere out there Justin is seeing this and having a hearty laugh.

[quote]" I was the first to establish comprehensive codes of conduct to atheist conventions"

"the first to specifically champion women speaker equality in convention lineups; the first atheist leader to shout down those who were harassing women (“Speaking Out Against Hate Directed at Women”)"

"I have been a feminist my entire life, and it’s a title I still hold close, even as the term has been tainted."

#metoo is a great and important idea that is being abused by bad actors who abuse the fact that they will be believed without question, and everyone is threatened by this attack on traditional liberal values. There can be no justice without due process - I’m living proof. That’s why I’m suing those who have slandered and lied about who I am. Liars and their mantra-speaking followers are doing a disservice against real victims of sexual assault and harassment and will make it harder for them to speak out, which is wholly repugnant to me and hopefully everyone. Women who falsely accuse men of sexual misconduct are criminals in need of prosecution, and we have the civic duty to protect the integrity of #metoo and the victims it has helped.[/quote]

He's still not taking the red pill. Some improvement, but still not getting it.[/quote]

He simultaneously says #metoo is a "great idea" but but also that it will be abused by bad actors because they will be "believed without question."

Maybe the fact that they will be "believed without question" should be a wake-up call as to why #metoo wasn't such a great idea after all.

But then he's been a feminist his entire life. He just doesn't seem to realise, or want to realise, that, much like religion, feminism is just another type of brainwashing. Honestly, so many cases of people being #metoo'ed into oblivion, and then returning months later with proof that the claims made against them were complete bullshit, after which either the damage had already been done and they had to start over from scratch or they came back stronger than ever. History informs us the fallibility of witch hunts, but people apparently don't even take the time to reflect on things anymore. They just react.

I would say I'm sympathetic to his plight, but what was it he said to Justin Vacula? "Denounce the shit"? Dave, you've waded in shit, now you need to denounce it.[/quote]Wasn't Silverman one of the ones who made Vacula a pariah in skepticism? I hope that somewhere out there Justin is seeing this and having a hearty laugh.

" I was the first to establish comprehensive codes of conduct to atheist conventions"

"the first to specifically champion women speaker equality in convention lineups; the first atheist leader to shout down those who were harassing women (“Speaking Out Against Hate Directed at Women”)"

"I have been a feminist my entire life, and it’s a title I still hold close, even as the term has been tainted."

#metoo is a great and important idea that is being abused by bad actors who abuse the fact that they will be believed without question, and everyone is threatened by this attack on traditional liberal values. There can be no justice without due process - I’m living proof. That’s why I’m suing those who have slandered and lied about who I am. Liars and their mantra-speaking followers are doing a disservice against real victims of sexual assault and harassment and will make it harder for them to speak out, which is wholly repugnant to me and hopefully everyone. Women who falsely accuse men of sexual misconduct are criminals in need of prosecution, and we have the civic duty to protect the integrity of #metoo and the victims it has helped.

He's still not taking the red pill. Some improvement, but still not getting it.

He simultaneously says #metoo is a "great idea" but but also that it will be abused by bad actors because they will be "believed without question."

Maybe the fact that they will be "believed without question" should be a wake-up call as to why #metoo wasn't such a great idea after all.

But then he's been a feminist his entire life. He just doesn't seem to realise, or want to realise, that, much like religion, feminism is just another type of brainwashing. Honestly, so many cases of people being #metoo'ed into oblivion, and then returning months later with proof that the claims made against them were complete bullshit, after which either the damage had already been done and they had to start over from scratch or they came back stronger than ever. History informs us the fallibility of witch hunts, but people apparently don't even take the time to reflect on things anymore. They just react.

I would say I'm sympathetic to his plight, but what was it he said to Justin Vacula? "Denounce the shit"? Dave, you've waded in shit, now you need to denounce it.

[quote]" I was the first to establish comprehensive codes of conduct to atheist conventions"

"the first to specifically champion women speaker equality in convention lineups; the first atheist leader to shout down those who were harassing women (“Speaking Out Against Hate Directed at Women”)"

"I have been a feminist my entire life, and it’s a title I still hold close, even as the term has been tainted."

#metoo is a great and important idea that is being abused by bad actors who abuse the fact that they will be believed without question, and everyone is threatened by this attack on traditional liberal values. There can be no justice without due process - I’m living proof. That’s why I’m suing those who have slandered and lied about who I am. Liars and their mantra-speaking followers are doing a disservice against real victims of sexual assault and harassment and will make it harder for them to speak out, which is wholly repugnant to me and hopefully everyone. Women who falsely accuse men of sexual misconduct are criminals in need of prosecution, and we have the civic duty to protect the integrity of #metoo and the victims it has helped.[/quote]

He's still not taking the red pill. Some improvement, but still not getting it.[/quote]

He simultaneously says #metoo is a "great idea" but but also that it will be abused by bad actors because they will be "believed without question."

Maybe the fact that they will be "believed without question" should be a wake-up call as to why #metoo wasn't such a great idea after all.

But then he's been a feminist his entire life. He just doesn't seem to realise, or want to realise, that, much like religion, feminism is just another type of brainwashing. Honestly, so many cases of people being #metoo'ed into oblivion, and then returning months later with proof that the claims made against them were complete bullshit, after which either the damage had already been done and they had to start over from scratch or they came back stronger than ever. History informs us the fallibility of witch hunts, but people apparently don't even take the time to reflect on things anymore. They just react.

I would say I'm sympathetic to his plight, but what was it he said to Justin Vacula? "Denounce the shit"? Dave, you've waded in shit, now you need to denounce it.

" I was the first to establish comprehensive codes of conduct to atheist conventions"

"the first to specifically champion women speaker equality in convention lineups; the first atheist leader to shout down those who were harassing women (“Speaking Out Against Hate Directed at Women”)"

"I have been a feminist my entire life, and it’s a title I still hold close, even as the term has been tainted."

#metoo is a great and important idea that is being abused by bad actors who abuse the fact that they will be believed without question, and everyone is threatened by this attack on traditional liberal values. There can be no justice without due process - I’m living proof. That’s why I’m suing those who have slandered and lied about who I am. Liars and their mantra-speaking followers are doing a disservice against real victims of sexual assault and harassment and will make it harder for them to speak out, which is wholly repugnant to me and hopefully everyone. Women who falsely accuse men of sexual misconduct are criminals in need of prosecution, and we have the civic duty to protect the integrity of #metoo and the victims it has helped.

He's still not taking the red pill. Some improvement, but still not getting it.

Dave Silverman Legal and Life Fund

https://www.gofundme.com/f/dave-silverman-legal-fund

" I was the first to establish comprehensive codes of conduct to atheist conventions"

"the first to specifically champion women speaker equality in convention lineups; the first atheist leader to shout down those who were harassing women (“Speaking Out Against Hate Directed at Women”)"

"I have been a feminist my entire life, and it’s a title I still hold close, even as the term has been tainted."

#metoo is a great and important idea that is being abused by bad actors who abuse the fact that they will be believed without question, and everyone is threatened by this attack on traditional liberal values. There can be no justice without due process - I’m living proof. That’s why I’m suing those who have slandered and lied about who I am. Liars and their mantra-speaking followers are doing a disservice against real victims of sexual assault and harassment and will make it harder for them to speak out, which is wholly repugnant to me and hopefully everyone. Women who falsely accuse men of sexual misconduct are criminals in need of prosecution, and we have the civic duty to protect the integrity of #metoo and the victims it has helped.

He's still not taking the red pill. Some improvement, but still not getting it.

" I was the first to establish comprehensive codes of conduct to atheist conventions"

"the first to specifically champion women speaker equality in convention lineups; the first atheist leader to shout down those who were harassing women (“Speaking Out Against Hate Directed at Women”)"

"I have been a feminist my entire life, and it’s a title I still hold close, even as the term has been tainted."

#metoo is a great and important idea that is being abused by bad actors who abuse the fact that they will be believed without question, and everyone is threatened by this attack on traditional liberal values. There can be no justice without due process - I’m living proof. That’s why I’m suing those who have slandered and lied about who I am. Liars and their mantra-speaking followers are doing a disservice against real victims of sexual assault and harassment and will make it harder for them to speak out, which is wholly repugnant to me and hopefully everyone. Women who falsely accuse men of sexual misconduct are criminals in need of prosecution, and we have the civic duty to protect the integrity of #metoo and the victims it has helped.

He's still not taking the red pill. Some improvement, but still not getting it.

Dave Silverman Legal and Life Fund

https://www.gofundme.com/f/dave-silverman-legal-fund

" I was the first to establish comprehensive codes of conduct to atheist conventions"

"the first to specifically champion women speaker equality in convention lineups; the first atheist leader to shout down those who were harassing women (“Speaking Out Against Hate Directed at Women”)"

"I have been a feminist my entire life, and it’s a title I still hold close, even as the term has been tainted."

#metoo is a great and important idea that is being abused by bad actors who abuse the fact that they will be believed without question, and everyone is threatened by this attack on traditional liberal values. There can be no justice without due process - I’m living proof. That’s why I’m suing those who have slandered and lied about who I am. Liars and their mantra-speaking followers are doing a disservice against real victims of sexual assault and harassment and will make it harder for them to speak out, which is wholly repugnant to me and hopefully everyone. Women who falsely accuse men of sexual misconduct are criminals in need of prosecution, and we have the civic duty to protect the integrity of #metoo and the victims it has helped.

He's still not taking the red pill. Some improvement, but still not getting it.

So Tommy Robinson Yaxley Lennon has just been released from Belmarsh Prison after 9 weeks of a 9 month sentence and despite being in solitary all that time , was still radicalized and apparently converted to Islam.

So Tommy Robinson Yaxley Lennon has just been released from Belmarsh Prison after 9 weeks of a 9 month sentence and despite being in solitary all that time , was still radicalized and apparently converted to Islam.[attachment=0]HNaHLEek.jpg[/attachment]

I'm guessing you'll be playing it more like Lt. Cmr Ericson: "You knew how to keep watch on filthy nights, and how to go without sleep, how to bury the dead, and how to die without wasting anyone's time" than Rose DeWitt Bukater: "Jack! Jack! Nooo...!"

I'm guessing you'll be playing it more like Lt. Cmr Ericson: "You knew how to keep watch on filthy nights, and how to go without sleep, how to bury the dead, and how to die without wasting anyone's time" than Rose DeWitt Bukater: "Jack! Jack! Nooo...!"

Someone pointed out to me that 9.10.19 began 10 days of palindromes, where the dates are the same when reversed. Apparently, this many palindrome dates in a row is highly unusual.
Apologies if WEIT already mentioned this, but I haven’t had time to read that site lately.

Someone pointed out to me that 9.10.19 began 10 days of palindromes, where the dates are the same when reversed. Apparently, this many palindrome dates in a row is highly unusual.Apologies if WEIT already mentioned this, but I haven’t had time to read that site lately.

katamari Damassi wrote: ↑
So there's this movie coming out called "Hustlers" about strippers who rob their wealthy clients. It stars Jennifer Lopez, Constance Wu, and Lizzo. It's getting rave reviews though its IMDB score is 4.8.
Okay, I'm gay and haven't been to a titty bar in a very long time, but have straight men's taste in strippers changed and now middle-aged, and or flat chested, and or fat, strippers are popular?

I have catholic tastes in women.

:whistle:

[quote="katamari Damassi" post_id=492305 time= user_id=452]So there's this movie coming out called "Hustlers" about strippers who rob their wealthy clients. It stars Jennifer Lopez, Constance Wu, and Lizzo. It's getting rave reviews though its IMDB score is 4.8.Okay, I'm gay and haven't been to a titty bar in a very long time, but have straight men's taste in strippers changed and now middle-aged, and or flat chested, and or fat, strippers are popular?[/quote]

katamari Damassi wrote: ↑
So there's this movie coming out called "Hustlers" about strippers who rob their wealthy clients. It stars Jennifer Lopez, Constance Wu, and Lizzo. It's getting rave reviews though its IMDB score is 4.8.
Okay, I'm gay and haven't been to a titty bar in a very long time, but have straight men's taste in strippers changed and now middle-aged, and or flat chested, and or fat, strippers are popular?

I'm old and not middle aged, but I'm guessing no.

[quote="katamari Damassi" post_id=492305 time= user_id=452]So there's this movie coming out called "Hustlers" about strippers who rob their wealthy clients. It stars Jennifer Lopez, Constance Wu, and Lizzo. It's getting rave reviews though its IMDB score is 4.8.Okay, I'm gay and haven't been to a titty bar in a very long time, but have straight men's taste in strippers changed and now middle-aged, and or flat chested, and or fat, strippers are popular?[/quote]I'm old and not middle aged, but I'm guessing no.

So there's this movie coming out called "Hustlers" about strippers who rob their wealthy clients. It stars Jennifer Lopez, Constance Wu, and Lizzo. It's getting rave reviews though its IMDB score is 4.8.
Okay, I'm gay and haven't been to a titty bar in a very long time, but have straight men's taste in strippers changed and now middle-aged, and or flat chested, and or fat, strippers are popular?

So there's this movie coming out called "Hustlers" about strippers who rob their wealthy clients. It stars Jennifer Lopez, Constance Wu, and Lizzo. It's getting rave reviews though its IMDB score is 4.8.Okay, I'm gay and haven't been to a titty bar in a very long time, but have straight men's taste in strippers changed and now middle-aged, and or flat chested, and or fat, strippers are popular?

In recent years he’s been repeatedly assailed as a bigot and racist. He is neither. The trouble with Harris is more prosaic: he just doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

PZ Myers already got this one.
Harris is all of them, a bigot, racist and ignorant idiot.

I read his book The End of Faith.
Or tried to, I got halfway through and gave up, something rare for me to do.
He spends most of his time Muslim/Islam bashing.
It’s not even totally wrong.
But it isn’t our problem!!!
I live in the USA, surrounded by fanatical, ignorant fundie xians who want to kill me, helped destroy my 401(K) plan***, and send me their intentions as death threats quite often.
I’ve never gotten a single death threat from…a Muslim, or anyone else but fundie xians.

***The 401(K) plan like millions of others, had a near death experience during the Bush Great Recession catastrophe.
Strangely enough, it was resurrected by Obama. Thanks Obama!!!

[quote=SM1957 post_id=492299 time= user_id=1745]It is now 18 years since airplanes took aim at America and killed thousands of people.

In recent years he’s been repeatedly assailed as a bigot and racist. He is neither. The trouble with Harris is more prosaic: he just doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

PZ Myers already got this one.Harris is all of them, a bigot, racist and ignorant idiot.

I read his book The End of Faith.Or tried to, I got halfway through and gave up, something rare for me to do.He spends most of his time Muslim/Islam bashing.It’s not even totally wrong.But it isn’t our problem!!!I live in the USA, surrounded by fanatical, ignorant fundie xians who want to kill me, helped destroy my 401(K) plan***, and send me their intentions as death threats quite often.I’ve never gotten a single death threat from…a Muslim, or anyone else but fundie xians.

***The 401(K) plan like millions of others, had a near death experience during the Bush Great Recession catastrophe.Strangely enough, it was resurrected by Obama. Thanks Obama!!![/quote]

My fashion week work wrapped-up today. It ended with an afternoon nap, from-which I woke & couldn't tell if I was sick... or sad.
Which stomach-knot feeling was it? Both, at the same time, probably. I had one more day scheduled-- 6am tomorrow-- but I bowed-out.

I only want to be descriptive-- not melodramatic. In short: I work for a lovably kooky guy who hired a bitchy kooky manager who hired a circus
of complete kooks. The gays are stereotypical bird-brains. I suspect the immigrants don't-just sound retarded because english is their 2nd language-- I think they're dumb back in Chile & Argentina & Puerto Rico, too. The young black girls don't seem to have experienced the world 10-miles-beyond their single mom's subsidized apartment. The grungy hipster white d00ds are all surface-image, with no fixie-bike handyman skills to go-with their frayed black jeans. And the batty young neurotic white girls definitely all have full-blown toxoplasmosis. Sadly, my girlfriend & I fit-in a little too well with these weirdo losers. I'd better-not ask too-loud, 'why was *I* invited to this Dinner For Schmucks!?!'

I'm ashamed that the allegedly-glamorous Fashion Industry of reputedly-glamorous New York City-- can only muster such a pathetic crew. But-- then I also realize that the genuinely-glamorous people are pretty-bad, too. The front row couldn't keep their legs uncrossed-- and their programs out of their laps, and their cellphones close to their body-- for just a few minutes-- so the models could walk-by & be photographed, without audience limbs and junk ruining the shot, no-matter how-many times the ushers asked them to please do-so. And some Important Photographer Guy with a giant lens punctuated the show with SHOUTING-- it sounded like he was saying "Asshole!", about 12 times over 2 minutes-- I guess he was trying to make people retract their limbs... but I gripped the boxcutter in my pocket-- scanning to see if a terrorist was about to open-fire. He was far-worse than whatever he was yelling-about.

I had a few things I considered writing here, over the last couple days-- like one show used that little boy called 'Desmond Is Amazing', who does drag, as a model. Another thing to feel gross/repulsed/sick about. Or not? I don't know. For me, there was a poignant juxtaposition between John D's posts about his private family troubles-- and decadent, expensive, pointless public spectacle of fashion week. Many things John said were familiar to my own relations. There's even one noteworthy missing-link between those two distant sides of life. Decades ago, back in Asia, my girlfriend's father gave a shady business associate's son-- a Rolex-- as an 18th birthday gift. Now my gf's father is old & poor & his wife is having a hard time-- recently admitted to a nursing home. The rolex-son is now a wealthy adult. This week, he visited gf's father & they went to see her mother in the nursing home. I was very interested in the re-crossing of these people's paths. I'm curious how-well the reciprocity of social obligations will function. Will the grown Rolex kid repay the gift with generosity now-- somewhere in the ballpark of the price-of-a-rolex-plus-interest? It it more reliable than the promise that I'll ever someday collect Social Security & Medicare?

My fashion week work wrapped-up today. It ended with an afternoon nap, from-which I woke & couldn't tell if I was sick... or sad.Which stomach-knot feeling was it? Both, at the same time, probably. I had one more day scheduled-- 6am tomorrow-- but I bowed-out.

I only want to be descriptive-- not melodramatic. In short: I work for a lovably kooky guy who hired a bitchy kooky manager who hired a circusof complete kooks. The gays are stereotypical bird-brains. I suspect the immigrants don't-just sound retarded because english is their 2nd language-- I think they're dumb back in Chile & Argentina & Puerto Rico, too. The young black girls don't seem to have experienced the world 10-miles-beyond their single mom's subsidized apartment. The grungy hipster white d00ds are all surface-image, with no fixie-bike handyman skills to go-with their frayed black jeans. And the batty young neurotic white girls definitely all have full-blown toxoplasmosis. Sadly, my girlfriend & I fit-in a little too well with these weirdo losers. I'd better-not ask too-loud, 'why was *I* invited to this Dinner For Schmucks!?!'

I'm ashamed that the allegedly-glamorous Fashion Industry of reputedly-glamorous New York City-- can only muster such a pathetic crew. But-- then I also realize that the genuinely-glamorous people are pretty-bad, too. The front row couldn't keep their legs uncrossed-- and their programs out of their laps, and their cellphones close to their body-- for just a few minutes-- so the models could walk-by & be photographed, without audience limbs and junk ruining the shot, no-matter how-many times the ushers asked them to please do-so. And some Important Photographer Guy with a giant lens punctuated the show with SHOUTING-- it sounded like he was saying "Asshole!", about 12 times over 2 minutes-- I guess he was trying to make people retract their limbs... but I gripped the boxcutter in my pocket-- scanning to see if a terrorist was about to open-fire. He was far-worse than whatever he was yelling-about.

I had a few things I considered writing here, over the last couple days-- like one show used that little boy called 'Desmond Is Amazing', who does drag, as a model. Another thing to feel gross/repulsed/sick about. Or not? I don't know. For me, there was a poignant juxtaposition between John D's posts about his private family troubles-- and decadent, expensive, pointless public spectacle of fashion week. Many things John said were familiar to my own relations. There's even one noteworthy missing-link between those two distant sides of life. Decades ago, back in Asia, my girlfriend's father gave a shady business associate's son-- a Rolex-- as an 18th birthday gift. Now my gf's father is old & poor & his wife is having a hard time-- recently admitted to a nursing home. The rolex-son is now a wealthy adult. This week, he visited gf's father & they went to see her mother in the nursing home. I was very interested in the re-crossing of these people's paths. I'm curious how-well the reciprocity of social obligations will function. Will the grown Rolex kid repay the gift with generosity now-- somewhere in the ballpark of the price-of-a-rolex-plus-interest? It it more reliable than the promise that I'll ever someday collect Social Security & Medicare?