I was talking about the America's test kitchen youtube video. After the dough's -1st rise they roll out into rectangle and then spread butter and roll it back up eventually semi reballing it. This gives u the layers like a crossaint (like giordanos has) and cannot be duplicated without.

Thanks for that link Nathan...I had forgotten about that one. Looks like a winner...are you going to try it? I've never had a Giordano's...wish I knew what this mystery flavor in the crust is that you mentioned. Do you think it might be lard?

The last ingredients list that I saw for the Giordano's dough was at Reply 23 at http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,5674.msg51855.html#msg51855. That was in 2008. As you know, Giordano's later filed for bankruptcy so anything could have happened to the dough once they worked their way out of bankruptcy. Giordano's has never publicly posted Nutrition Facts for their pizzas and, even if they did, it would be very difficult to reverse engineer and clone their pizzas from the Nutrition Facts because there are too many moving parts.

A member who was privy to one of the very early Giordano's doughs (circa 1974-1975) once shared the recipe with me. That recipe included margarine and vegetable oil, in surprisingly small amounts (total combined fat), but no lard. Lard is frowned upon these days so it is not surprising that Giordano's went to vegetable oil.