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I'm an army of 1.
My mission......To keep the glorious memory of Phil Simms fresh in the minds of my fellow MB posters....and to make sure that we all be realistic about Eli.......... That he's a fine player but not one of the greats of this era.

Why is you're avatar so hard to figure out?

Asian boy with long hair? Some asian girl's attempt at being seducive? Is it you? Just angry?

I'm an army of 1.
My mission......To keep the glorious memory of Phil Simms fresh in the minds of my fellow MB posters....and to make sure that we all be realistic about Eli.......... That he's a fine player but not one of the greats of this era.

Dont forget many board members prob dont even have memories of Simms.....
Any QB needss to be thought of 'realisticly....even the glorious Phil Simms.....whom BTW I share a birthday with and I also have a bad ankle as well. Oh yeah...same first name too......

"Measure Twice......Cut Once"You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

Dont forget many board members prob dont even have memories of Simms.....
Any QB needss to be thought of 'realisticly....even the glorious Phil Simms.....whom BTW I share a birthday with and I also have a bad ankle as well. Oh yeah...same first name too......

If anyone thinks that the Giants ownership would, at this point in time, trade Eli, one-for-one for any other QB in the league, then you truly don't believe he's an elite QB. If you believe like I do, that the Giants would not make that trade at this point in Eli's career - I truly don't see how you can say that he's not an elite QB. There are obviously other teams who would not make a trade like that for their QB - those are all teams with QB's they consider elite or will soon be elite.

So I guess the arguments have regressed to various levels of eliteness. My head hurts.

If anyone thinks that the Giants ownership would, at this point in time, trade Eli, one-for-one for any other QB in the league, then you truly don't believe he's an elite QB. If you believe like I do, that the Giants would not make that trade at this point in Eli's career - I truly don't see how you can say that he's not an elite QB. There are obviously other teams who would not make a trade like that for their QB - those are all teams with QB's they consider elite or will soon be elite.

So I guess the arguments have regressed to various levels of eliteness. My head hurts.

Bottom line is that Eli is (in my view) the sixth best QB in the NFL. I suppose an argument can be made that he's fifth best. I would disagree but even if I concede that....Is the fifth best QB in the league "elite"?
I don't think so. But I suppose everyone has a right to their opinion.