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I have about thirty near death experiences related to me that says otherwise.I also have the testimony of people who were dead and were revived..and what they tell me is in stark contrast to your glib ignorance.

You have thirty bullshit stories from people who didn't have enough air to their brains, and because that regularly happens to you - you related to them. So what?

Originally Posted by Sonnabend

Then what are you doing here?

Showing how powerless you are.;)

At Coretta Scott King's funeral in early 2006, Ethel Kennedy, the widow of Robert Kennedy, leaned over to him and whispered, "The torch is being passed to you." "A chill went up my spine," Obama told an aide. (Newsweek)

Not to say there isn't life after death, but people who are revived aren't dead in the same way the dead are, otherwise we'd have revived them already right?

When I had a stroke I had an experience that would best be described as having "my life flashed before my eyes". I had visions of my son riding his bike, my husband working on his car and seeing myself (through my eyes) walking down the grocery store aisle. They were snippets and very quick. I think it was because my brain was misfiring, I don't think it had anything to do with being "on the verge of death".

Because - even without a God, life is a gift and to piss it away is a waste.

A gift? From what/whom? Why do you insist on using religious justifications and terminology while denying religious truth?

my tax dollars haul their scumbag asses to jail, the hospital, feed them and put them through rehab.

Uh, which answer are you going with there, chief? Because they're wasting a "gift" or because some of them go to jail? And if that's it why didn't you include the vast numbers of other sorts of people who go to jail? And why do you object to people going to rehab, even on your dime? If it helps them make better use of their "gift" then isn't it worth it?

When I had a stroke I had an experience that would best be described as having "my life flashed before my eyes". I had visions of my son riding his bike, my husband working on his car and seeing myself (through my eyes) walking down the grocery store aisle. They were snippets and very quick. I think it was because my brain was misfiring, I don't think it had anything to do with being "on the verge of death".

Well, thats nice that happened, but if I understand you correctly that doesn't allude to any afterlife or that there isn't one.

Another thought on the afterlife. My mother passed away in 1994. At around 3AM, I received a call from my sister, who lives near Seattle Washington, asking if everything was okay with Mom or if I'd heard anything. Before I could reply, or make my half asleep mouth work, she said that she and my brother in law were awakened around 2:30AM by a light in their bedroom.

She said, this is also verified by my brother in law, that they saw our mother standing at the end of the bed looking down at them. After several seconds, she vanished.

My sister said she had tried to call Albuquerque, where our folks lived, but got no answer. I told her the last I'd heard, a couple of days before, all was fine. I live in Northern New Mexico, 150 miles away.

To make a long story short, at about 6AM, my father called to advise that our mother had died some hours earlier. She was pronounced dead at 2:15AM after being taken by ambulance to the hospital.

I have no explanation, and if my sister alone had seen the apparition(?) I'd say it was a psychic type thing. My brother in law though saw it too.

Because, silly asshole, my tax dollars haul their scumbag asses to jail, the hospital, feed them and put them through rehab. Grasp it now?

But then again your tax dollars would be going to some other "pointless" venture if it wasn't going to treatment centers or jails so what does it really matter what our tax dollars fund? I'm not really happy that a single penny that I pay goes to NPR or Planned Parenthood but the government chooses to spend my hard earned dollars friviously and their isn't much I can do about it.

“Progress is Providence without God. That is, it is a theory that everything has always perpetually gone right by accident. It is a sort of atheistic optimism, based on an everlasting coincidence far more miraculous than a miracle.”
G. K. Chesterton

A gift? From what/whom? Why do you insist on using religious justifications and terminology while denying religious truth?

Uh, which answer are you going with there, chief? Because they're wasting a "gift" or because some of them go to jail? And if that's it why didn't you include the vast numbers of other sorts of people who go to jail? And why do you object to people going to rehab, even on your dime? If it helps them make better use of their "gift" then isn't it worth it?

That is a very astute observation. Either life is some random accident that has no point and with nothing to look forward to or it is a gift from a creator who gives even greater gifts to those who listen toHIm and believe in His word and obey His commands.

“Progress is Providence without God. That is, it is a theory that everything has always perpetually gone right by accident. It is a sort of atheistic optimism, based on an everlasting coincidence far more miraculous than a miracle.”
G. K. Chesterton

That is a very astute observation. Either life is some random accident that has no point and with nothing to look forward to or it is a gift from a creator who gives even greater gifts to those who listen toHIm and believe in His word and obey His commands.

The second option sounds a heck of a lot better, but that doesn't make it true, I hope it is though.