What’s the “business” side of enterprise architecture? And how does EA’ing start mapping to DevOps, cloud-native, and all the new stuff? In part one of this discussion, I talk with Matt Walburn about how EA’s fit into The Business.

Having worked in cloud since before cloud, JJ and I talk about what companies are using various cloud things for. We also discuss the conceptual history of cloud, and what exactly he does as a “business development” person at Chef.

While in San Francisco for a Pivotal meeting, I recorded an episode with Josh Long. We talk about what reactive programming is and why you’d use it. Also, dish towels. Also, check out the livestream of this if you’re into video.