[14:02] Tillie Ariantho: Some things got nullified, so the list is rather short.

[14:02] Soft Linden: The one thing on there I really hoped we'd have data on was the land bot question. But the last brown bag was taken over by quarterly review topics. We should be able to do that this coming Tuesday.

[14:03] Tillie Ariantho: Yes, that was project files to old in SVN, newer in the download packages.

[14:03] Dale Glass: seems to work well for building the viewer. I use it here, seems to work OK

[14:04] Rob Linden: well, actually, they're the same old files in both

[14:04] Dale Glass: I got reports of my viewer being faster than the standard one, maybe it optimizes better

[14:04] Soft Linden: It's still the case that nobody internally is using VS2005 (that I know of!) who isn't on the havok4 branch. Is there an open source developer with commit access who'd want to own those until we upgrade internally, post-Havok4?

[14:04] Dale Glass: then I got a few reports of it being slower too. It's funny

[14:04] Rob Linden: John thought the project files were different, but found out otherwise on closer inspection

[14:05] Barney Boomslang: still chuckles about the ppl claiming that the linux client is faster than the windows and mac client - even though it has to use openjpg, which just is a bit on the slow side

[14:32] Tillie Ariantho: The next points I had on the agenda were nullified by Dzonatas as already been a topic here or not an issue at all... So what else we have is 3 jira entries and the feedback from the Linden brownbag. .)

[14:37] Squirrel Wood: or to automatically move it so it won't overlap if that is possible

[14:38] Barney Boomslang: well, I bet the calculations of "is it over foreign land and if yes, which one" with weirdly shaped prims and weirdly shaped parcels is a pain in itself for whoever wants to tackle it - but it's not open source related

[14:38] Tillie Ariantho: Rob: yes, we can take that issue with us to to that office hour then... :)

[14:38] Kooky Jetaime: Is this something that could get some answer/help from H4?

[14:39] Kooky Jetaime: And it wouldn't be move rights, but return rights

[14:39] Kooky Jetaime: Since you can't move anyones stuff on your land in the first place

[14:51] Barney Boomslang: which doesn't make those who _are_ legitimate anything wrong. which means that any way where you throw them all in one bag will piss off users of that legitimate use. just because you do n't use it that way doesn't say everybody does.

[14:51] Soft Linden: I'm not clear here what needs to be resolved about this issue in an open source meeting.

[14:51] Rob Linden: Tillie: not necessarily, but I'm wondering if we have the right people here

[14:54] Barney Boomslang: which means that I guess it's hard for the lindens to take those changes in - it's an all-or-nothing approach and the bigger it is, the change, the harder it might be to take in

[14:54] Dzonatas Sol: Just resolve this for now for me to update with the latest patch for the current grid version. k

[14:54] Tillie Ariantho: Barney: true, but that would require some discussion then if any development in the open source is any useful, as it might never get into the viewer anyway, because of its size...

[15:04] Dzonatas Sol: We do appreciate the time that is spent to host these meetings. Hopefully the questions here were worthwhile (even unfocused)

[15:04] Kooky Jetaime: anyways, Off to Ben's unless he's at the conference too

[15:04] Soft Linden: Yeah. I can't see the brown bag being opened to public minutes in general. It's supposed to be completely informal and unguarded. That would disrupt that, as we couldn't do things like calling the bigwigs to task over this and that anymore.