The text of two talks
given at Parklands by Eugene Halliday. Ishval audio 152-153

PART 1

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Do
you remember the definition of faith that we use?
Faith is the ability to put your foot down where nothing is and in
the act of putting it down posit something to put it on.

Do you accept our definition of faith?

Yes.

Yes. Why do we make this
statement? I am going to open one of those…

I have had a sumptuous
gift of Twelve plus pens of different colours. Does that work?

At the moment.

I will just test it. Can you see that red? Can you
see that
red? Can you see that red? Well the one you can’t see was in my
mind wasn’t it? Did I put it there or did I pretend? Can you see
that one? That one I didn’t touch the film, right? Now imagine that
this sheet of cello represents pre-creational intelligent power. It
is infinitely extended intelligent power. We can call it SP –
sentient power, infinitely extended not yet having contracted.
Contracted means contra-acted - acted against itself. It is infinite.
Remember the red and the blue appears. The red symbolises energy
active and the blue energy intellective. The intellective is
inhibited. It finites. Now imagine between the red and the blue there
is that which can appear as either. An infinitely extended sentient
power not yet having manifest either as power or as form, form is
intellective; power is volitional. Now, from within itself it posits.
I am thinking of a point there which I will put but I have not yet
put it.

Is
that before potential?

No, potential means power held, power held.
That is another way of saying power inhibited. Power tends to posit.
If you inhibit your tendency to posit, that is like you do inhibiting
a tendency to propound a problem. You have to work very hard to
inhibit a tendency to posit something. Why? Because when there is
nothing whatever there other than Infinite Sentient Power, there is
an opportunity not being used. Imagine prior to creation there is an
infinity of sentient power not in use. All right?

Right., now, I have in
my mind an idea of a point. Have you all got an idea of a point in
your mind and if not will you put one there. How do you do it?

Imagination.

Imagination. The word imagination is the noun form
of a power, I make, imag.
I, the observer, can actually focus. Focus means force-strike,
fo-cus, force-strike. Now, somewhere around there I have decided to
put a point. Will you agree with me that that is a sufficient place
to put it? We could put it there or there or there or anywhere
whatever. I could put it in mid air but in mid air it doesn’t leave
a mark on this cellophane. I am going to put it on the cellophane but
prior to going on the cellophane it is in my mind. Is it in your
minds too? And we agree that I will be your servant in positing this
point on here. Now, imagine that whatever is can never cease to be
and whatever is not, can never come to be and that means that
whatever we are, as spiritual monads, as prime units of initiative
power, that is spirit, Spirit means initiative, we can all agree to
make a point. Now, will you give me the instruction? Tell me to make
a point and I will accept the instruction for you and make the point.
Shall I make a point, right?

Yes.

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Here is the point,
– I hope it is good enough for you. There is a point, a red point
symbolising energy positing itself from within itself because we are
only instruments of the sentient power of infinity which we call God.
God is a shorthand word for Infinite Sentient Power and it has made,
with myself as the servant of you, as a multitudinous group of
sentient powers, there a point. Now, there was no point there. Then
there was a point in our mind. Out of all the things we posited we
could have posited not a point but a line or a plane or a cube, a
triangle, a square, anything, but we chose a point. Why, because the
point is most economic? A point is po-in-T. That means
power-in-crucifixion. Because when power posits itself and fixates
itself, power is self-crucified. This is the mystery of the
crucifixion of all witnesses to truth. To witness to truth is to pin
oneself, to nail, fixate, crucify oneself in the image in the mind
posited on the cellophane. Now it was not there and now it is there.
Where there was no point we posited a point in the mind and then sent
a message down this arm to the pen to make the point. The point now
exists. Exist means stands out, before, it was hidden. Now, it is
standing out visibly from the background. That is a primary point.
The phonetic for that primary point is K-T-R. K is a lock. T is the
crossing of the forces that make it. Why? Because I have to say to
the right, to the left, above, below, co-ordinates to fixate the
points, so that our crossing force is locked, T-K, K-T. But the
moment I posit that point, the letter R, which is a vibration and
which means, as in ruach,
spirit, differentiation, the moment the point is there we
differentiate the place where the point is from the rest of the
cellophane where it is not.

So where nothing was, we have posited something on
which we can put our foot. Foot itself means power fixated. It is the
same word as put, etymologically, and the
same as the pat
in pater,
father. The power that posits that point is called Father. The power
that posits the point is called Father. The point that is posited is
a form and is called the Son, (Sun) in both spellings, it is the
Father appearing on the stage lower, that is, in manifestation. It is
also an illuminator of consciousness because it makes clear for us
the meaning of that word we have chosen to call point. So we now have
a point where was no point. Now, we are to think the totality of the
whole manifest universe is built of points. Science calls it energy
quanta - little amounts of energy but each little amount is a point
and the universe is nothing but powers posited, little quantities of
energy posited by acts of primary sentient power and there we are. If
we were to cover this with dots and then connect the dots up with
lines we could draw all conceivable forms of universal manifestation.
Now, are we clear about that?

Now the word faith and the word foot and put and
pat in
pater, means faith. Faith is putting
power. Where nothing is you preconceive and then put. You place, that
is P and you nail or fixate or cross, that is T. P for the positing
power, T for the nailing, fixation power. So, there is the P, the
point, and I have drawn now the cross, +, the co-ordinates that help
to locate it. Now, when this point is posited, is it not true that to
posit it we had to take in the infinity of our mental possibilities,
the idea of point out of all possibilities and select a point to put
it there? Therefore, all around here there are an infinity of other
things that we might have put instead of point. We might have had
triangle, square and so on. We might have had compasses. We might
have had square in that sense and we could cover all the space with
all conceivable forms but we didn’t do that. That’s relatively
waterproof. Somebody is going to clean it later with something, I
suppose. If not, I will do it personally.

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Now, throughout the whole of infinite space there
is sentient power. There is no absolute voidity. There is nowhere
where there is not sentient power and it is that sentient power by
self-focus, self-striking of its own power that posits form and
whatever form it posits clearly it has excluded all alternative forms
that it might have posited. So we inhibit. We hold in potential all
the other forms that would cause us not to be able to see the point.
So every act of clear vision is necessarily an act of inhibition of
all the other things that we might have clearly have put instead. Now
when we put all the things that are possible to put for us as finite
physical beings, it takes infinite time. So we won’t bother to do
it but if we did we could cover this and then buy a bigger sheet and
cover that and so on with alternative forms. Now when we have covered
them all together so that every point contains every other point, so
that within that little point there,
there is a square and a circle and a triangle and so on, that point
is the very principle of all forms whatever and therefore we have to
say if we cover the whole sheet with total possibilities that we need
a term to express the totality of all the mutually inhibiting form.
The name for that is chaos. Now, chaos is not rubbish; it is not
total disorder. It is the simultaneous co-presentation of all
conceivable orders. So out of chaos we can draw order.

Are you
with us Peter?

Yes, I was thinking
about the discrimination between the point to point as you said the
most economical way is to say is to place a point and say we move
from point to point and therefore can create triangles and squares or
whatever.

Yes.

Now, what happens, well,
what is happening when you are particularising the shape and when you
are chaotic, when you are going from point to point indiscriminately
and or working in a geometric pattern with, with ordinary mnemonic?
What is the…

Do you
mean how do you do it?

Is
there a law that governs it? Is there…

The law is that which you posit.
Law is from the same verb as to lay. A law is what is laid down as a
pattern for action.

The
reason that God then could appear to be chaotic?

No, chaos is the term we reserve for the totality
of all conceivables presented simultaneously.

That is black,
mass black.

That is mass black?

Yes.

Or in this case mass red or whatever colour
arbitrarily we care to posit. In colour symbology in Kabalah and so
on, in all the great religious works there is a very full colour
symbology and you take mass white for ultimate enlightenment, mass
black for ultimate wickedness, the opposite to mass enlightenment,
mass blue for intellectuality, mass green for hope, and so on. There
is a colour symbology in all major religions. In the Church they
would use different vestments for different times of the year.
Different altar clothes for different times of the year and so on.
All according to colour symbology.

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Now let us just write
the word colour for a moment. That is the same word with the
same origin as the word for a tube in your stomach called colon, yes?
If we add an R to it, which means to differentiate, then we have the
fundamental concept of the prism – a primordial mass of white, when
pushed through impedances becomes rainbow. Colour appears through
impeding original white light, right? Now, we as human beings, have a
gift from our source to be able to think, to be able to reason, to be
intellectual, to employ verbal symbols to aid our thought, and, we
talk about colouration as emotive stress. We talk about a coloured
image meaning emotionally charged don’t we, highly coloured
conversation and so on? The col there, notice, you could put a k
there, it is quite legitimate, in fact in some languages they would
spell colour with a K. In English you can use either S or K sound for
a letter written C. Now, if we reverse that, read it Hebraica it is
loc. The
other way it is Hebraica too, as in col
nidre, but this way it is loc because
your food tube is a lock, like on a canal, for a throughput of
experiences to be differentiated. When you eat you are supposed to
chew to break down the food, to differentiate it, to discriminate its
parts and then to assimilate to different organs the particular
chemistry needed by each organ and that is the colour phenomenon.

Now, the subject matter you gave me the idea for
when you were explaining the problem of faith, I will now bring into
consciousness. It is this - Hindu religion is concerned more with
eternity than with time, similarly with other oriental religions
generally. But three religions came out of the Arabian Desert from
the same source, and they are not concerned so much with eternity as
the end process, the omega,
the big O, the final goal as the historical process of getting there.
So we say, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, are three historical
religions. They are concerned with the march of time, evolution and
development in a way that Hindu religion is not. Far eastern religion
is more concerned with the repetition of eternity. Now you

remember eternity we
translate hé
trinity. Now the letter E, fifth letter, the hé
of the Hebrew, ( ה) the letter E means itself, life.
Life-trinity is the translation eternity. The trinity is Power, Form,
Function, a three-fold activity of sentient power not serially
presented but presented simultaneously. In time we see things
sequentially, serially, one after the other, and in that seeing we
abstract each thing that we see from its context of primordial chaos,
that is, from eternity. Eternity is all presented simultaneously.
Time is the same presented sequentially, serially, bit by bit.

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Right. Now, why did these three religions stress
historicity? If we take the Hindu idea of an eternal recurrence of
manifestation, rest, manifestation, rest,
manifestation, rest, a period of creation, a period of rest, another
period of creation, another of rest. Now, as taught, this can have a
very peculiar effect on the human psyche. It can actually produce
colossal boredom. And by about the sixth century BC there was a
terrific revolt and prior to the Christian dispensation this boredom
had got to such a pitch that the rulers of the world were really
getting fed up with the idea of an eternal recurrence of identical
events. Nietzsche borrowed the idea and brought it up to date in the
last century under the term of the eternal recurrence in which you do
everything that you have done before, again. Everything whatever that
we could possibly do has been done an infinite number of times before
and will be done an infinite number of times again

Would you say
that was dissipating power…?

No, I would say it was
locking itself up in a repetitive structure called law, rota, torah.
The idea of this eternal creation, disillusion, re-creation of the
same disillusion, recreation of the same, is a very boring idea.
Would you like to come here again forever and repeat your statement
of the beginning of this evening and hear me repeat the same words
again and again and again, forever, and horribly remember that you
had already done it an infinity of times before? Surely with that
concept there must arise at some point a revolt. Something must say I
dislike intensely this repetition and I want to make everything new.
So there, in the Bible is the statement, “Behold I make all things
new,” just when you thought everything was going to be repeated I
changed it. New rules, new heaven; that means new ideas, a new earth
– that means new applications. Now, which would you rather have –
eternal boredom or eternal creative production of newnesses? Or are
you afraid of being bored by the eternal newnesses?

Now, these historical religions all tell that
there is an ultimate term to the evolutionary process that we are not
all going to repeat exactly. We are moving from a state of relative
unconsciousness to a state of total consciousness and complete
individual self-determination. The cosmic law is not going to rule
us. We are going to discover the law, to uncover its tricks, to
assimilate it and then to re-create our own being from this knowledge
and understanding.

Now, these three religions teach that there is a
process going on in man, that man is in a kind of test situation on
earth and in it he can choose and will choose and in the act of
choosing he will create for himself a new character. This is called a
new birth. To do this there must be a change of mind, a metanoia.
There must be a total change of outlook. One suddenly recognises one
has repeated too often one’s silly responses to environmental
stimuli with other people and with situations, and one is determined
now to make a new response in a totally new way to a situation that
could remain the same if we did not change it. I am alpha
and omega.
I am the original divine voice. Al-pha
means divine voice. It is God speaking. Prior to creation it is
Al-pha.
Creation begins when the letter beth
or beta, B
begins. B originally is drawn as a circle. When that circle appears
that is the B-ginning of formal manifestation.

Prior
to that there is an A. I will draw an A.
Now, imagine that that A actually is a convenient shorthand form,
otherwise I would have to extend that like that, like that and like
that and like that and like that to infinity. Now you see, if I do
that, what have I got? I have got a triangle there, yes? In that
triangle I am going to write Power, Form, Action.Power, Form, Action, and this triangle is a
precipitate inwardly of the Infinite Sentient Power produced by these
co-ordinates. It is the Father, the pat-er,
the filius,
the Son and the activation for the Holy Spirit at work. And that
triangle has been produced by co-ordination lines of infinite length
and I am going to draw the triangle again without those lines to
remind us. When they have the triangle up in the Vatican it is to
remind them to think at all times in terms of Power, Form, Function,
in every situation – in life, in business, in politics, in art, in
human relations - it is always a problem of a definite amount of
power in a definite formulation and a definite activation of that
formulated power. If we handle the PFA of the situation then we have
got exactly the beautiful act, the true act of living but if we don’t
balance those three we are in trouble. If we have more power than
form we are leaking. If we have more form than power we are rigid. If
we have activity with no power and no form we have slush. So, PFA
must be balanced for the perfect act. Now this perfect act can not
come immediately. Spirit always acts indirectly. If spirit were to
posit immediately itself it would posit the same that it was before
creation. Can you see that? Let’s go back a bit.

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Before
creation the point was not there, but what was there was Eternal
Infinite Spirit, Sentient Power, initiative was there and it had not
yet initiated but could do anything whatever, but if it were to
initiate its self-appearance simultaneously it would re-posit itself
like the empty piece of cellophane. The Godhead would be the Godhead
again and the Godhead and the Godhead, and there would be no God as
Father, God as Son, issuance of Father power, God as Holy Spirit
activating power form, but everything would re-posit itself as light
infinite. Imagine an infinite light with no form in it, positing
itself in its fullness of light – what has it posited? Answer –
no change. It has not manifested itself. Manifest means counted
individually, fastened, made fast in order to be evaluated.
Man-ifest, right? So, spirit, if it were to act directly, would only
posit infinity again and there would be no manifestation, no world
that we know. There would be no manifestation of separative power,
form, function. There would be just be simultaneously infinity,
infinity, infinity with an absolute blast of light. That light in
Kabalah is called Nothing. It is called ayin.
It is called the invisible, never presented observer, and then it is
not telling us anything is it? But it could do, but it can only
manifest at the expense of creation and creation is arcing. Remember
create is from that base K R A, kra,
read Hebraica ark and the ark is nothing but the circle. Creation is
arcing. The moment it creates, it finites, it makes a zone of
finitude and that finitude is manifest, can be counted. There is one
and here is another for you and there is a little one inside there
and there is another inside there.

Is that the Blake
divider?

Right.

Is that when you see that Blake picture?

The Blake drawing of God
with the compasses?

Yes it is vision ……

Yes, simply the circle
excludes infinity and includes finitude, right? So, now we have to
say what is the purpose of the historical presentation of this
infinite power which could present itself, hold itself repeatedly,
eternally but if it did it would be no change. It would be infinite
intelligent light power positing itself as infinite intelligent light
power without any finiting process. No change.

Now,
no finite being would then exist. There would be no education. There
would be no understanding. There would be no creatures to understand.
But the moment we make that arc, we make a circle, we make a finite.
Now, we will draw such a circle again. Now
that is the word on
as a primitive glyph. I will write it as O N but really the letter N
itself means to negate continuously out of all conceivable powers and
applications N says no to the infinite and in saying no to infinity
says yes to finity. Now we have got a zone there, a circle, and that
is a drawing that is the uro boros,
serpent with tail in mouth, a very primitive symbol of God as
self-stimulating, self-precipitating intelligent power.

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There is it. Now, once
it has put its tail in its mouth it has excluded that is out there,
and included Sentient Power. Sentient Power. That outside is expanded
and this inside is in-spanded. When you stretch your hand that is
called a span and it means a motion of primordial life-power. Within
this circle here, now, there are possibilities of further positings.
So we go in to the centre and out again and we can do this repeatedly
until we fill the whole of this space but we leave the middle there
empty because the power can not stop moving. It can move towards the
centre and then out but it can’t go to dead centre and stop. So it
draws this shape here and it keeps on doing this in cycles of
inner-perience. Experience would be outside. In- perience is
self-examination of the sentient power enclosed in this circle. Now
each one of us is such a circle. Each one of us is fittingly
diagrammed in this way. In the very middle there I am going to write
I S which
means yes. I will draw it a bit bigger for you. In the middle is I S.
That is the sense of I, subject. I, the Knower. Outside here,
spinning round it like this is the issuance of the I (~S). The I
initiates and what comes out there is seen as object. So the whole of
this zone here we call the action zone and it cannot go into the dead
centre but it is subjected to the orders from centre and if there be
two such beings, touching contingently like that, they can interfere
with each other and stop each other’s focus on centre. So that if
the intelligent centre of this being goes out to look at the other
being it can become conditioned by the stimulus received from the
other being and then forget its own centre and fall into external
identification with the received stimulus. And that is called The
Fall. The idea of the Fall in all religions is the idea of being
fixated on the periphery of being to the point of forgetting one’s
centrality of initiative.

The
fact that you fall onto that other centre does that mean it has a
more powerful polarity?

No, it means you have become interested in the
external stimulus and you don’t’ fall onto the centre of the
other being, you fall onto your own periphery.

It is
better to stand on the periphery?

Yes. Now that peripheralisation of awareness
results in identification with the external world called the material
world and the fascinating, that is binding of consciousness to the
external stimulus situation; so that you
are tied up, not by the other being but by your own interest in the
stimulus. The Fall is really a down- going of an interested power
identifying with a stimulus rather than going to its own centre which
is creative. The whole meaning of the fall in religion is abandoning
one’s centre of initiative and peripheralising one’s awareness by
becoming interested more in what another being is expressing than
what you might creatively express.

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Now,
every time we examine a thing we go round it and we bring back the
stimulus energy to centre to examine it.
But we are not very good at it really, we don’t pay full attention.
Supposing somebody generously gives you a new Rolls Royce and you pat
it and stroke it and lift the bonnet up and measure the tyres and the
tread and count the cylinders and so on. Usually you get tired after
a bit and have to go to bed for a rest. You cannot exhaust the full
interest of any single thing given to you, no matter how small
because everything is precipitated by the infinite and the most
finite, the most small thing we have has an infinity
of implications in it and we haven’t time to exhaust it. So what we
do is we go round, go back, think about it and fall asleep. And then
we wake up again and go out and we examine something else and we
never really exhaust the significance of any single experience
whether it is a relatively simple experience like buying a bun or
getting married. You tend not to exhaust before you pass on to your
next experience.

Now,
supposing we said. Let’s simplify it a bit further. We make a
circle like that. That circle

has come from the infinite and made the number
six. It has come from infinity, eternity, into time. It then goes
further, investigates a circle – goes out and investigates another
circle, goes out, like some fellow goes to the
theatre, comes out, goes and has a drink, comes out, goes home, has a
sleep, comes out and goes to business in the morning, now, how many
of us actually sit down and try to co-ordinate these activities? How
many of us actually say I have been to the theatre tonight? What is
the exact correspondence in that and going to the American Bar in the
Midland? What is the exact correspondence with that, in all its
elements, all its parts, with being married, with going to business?
Do we put everything into correspondence? Do we? Do we actually? Is
it new idea or is it an idea we have had and never accomplished?
There is a very old yogic exercise. When you go to bed at night
remember the whole of your day backwards – starting in bed and
thinking backwards right through the day. Most of the people I know
that have tried it have fallen asleep and not known at what point
they fell asleep, or how far they got through their day.

When you do that exercise do you in fact go
backwards in time step by step even to walking backwards? or do
you move backwards to an incident and then move forward and then move
back again and move forward, back again and move forward or continue
backwards?

Well we said that time is a linear,
sequential, serial presentation of the contents of eternity but
eternity is not time. Now, when you go into a deep dreamless sleep
you go into eternity and that is why you can’t remember it in time
afterwards because the mode of consciousness called temporal is
linear and the mode of awareness eternal is not linear. But between
the waking temporal state when you think you are conscious of what
you are doing and the state of deep sleep where you are actually
eternally, infinitely aware, you have a mediating state called
dreaming. Now, in dreaming you can go in any direction whatever;
forwards, backwards, upside, downside, inside, outside and generally
at random.

So is it in that twilight state that you bring
in the non serial approach that you do during the day?

Yes – the twilight
state – two lights, where sunset or dawn is, is easier to practice
that exercise than at any other time. By practice you can actually
make yourself start to dream and remain awake and you can then
examine the contents of eternity in time, if you have the power to
remember what it is you are looking for, and that requires tremendous
practice.

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Now, every time we go round we assimilate a bit of
an experience and then come out to another experience. So in fact we
do not exhaust any particular one and so we have to keep going round
like this and we have always got a gap no matter how often we go
round like this, extroverting attention,
introverting, extroverting introverting, extroverting, introverting
and so on. You see, gradually we are filling up this space with the
lines, the world lines of our investigation but we have always got
some more that we can go into here. We can gradually reduce the area
between, like this, as we go, and until we have exhausted all
conceivable possibilities of our own self-investigation, it is not
called the Consummation of Days and it is not yet the Last Judgment.
Every time you go out there is a judgment, when you come back there
is a judgment. When you go out you judge the world, the lamps the
ceiling the floor. When you come in you judge your mental state in
response to it. Outside are events. Inside are states of feeling, of
emotion, of impulse. Until you have filled in the whole space and
left nothing whatever unexamined, it is not yet the Last Judgment for
that individual.

So when we
read the Bible we look back say the Last Judgment seems to be a day
where we will all be there and we will all be judged on what we have
done in our….

Mmmm

And we will
all be judged individually at all different times .

Well, you are judged
individually at different times and you are judged eternally and
collectively as well. All beings are being evaluated in their
experiences while they are undergoing them and also there is a final
judgment which actually preceded your appearance in time, because
remember, your potentiality before you enter birth is there in its
totality.

Will
there be a new set of hierarchical values made at that time?

Yes, totally different from the ones you think
you have got now. None of the problems which you now think are
problems will then be of any interest because you will have
transcended them for higher ones but the final one is this, “I am
Self-Responsible.” That is the Last Judgment. Before that time you
blame everybody else for your condition, for your misfortune. At the
Last Judgment you blame you.

When Christ said, when Christ on the cross
said they know not what they do

Yes,
that is pretty obvious

Jesus then says he must then take full
responsibility for himself, but at the same time he said to God why
hast thou forsaken me?

We have had this one before,
if your memory is any good, we have dealt this before.

Yes, I know

He, in order to be what he was, the first born of
the dead, the first born of many brothers,
the leader of human evolution who attains a state of total Last
Judgment with himself first and then said, I will now draw you a
picture of the Last Judgment. There is my halo and here is my body.
That is my last judgment. I
have a zone of influence. I am active, the vertical and I am passive
to my own activity - that is the horizontal. That is a diagram of us,
each one of us. We are a zone of sentient power, positively active,
negatively passive to our own positivity. We lay our life down and we
pay the price. We make decisions, most of them stupid, and then we
have to deal with them.

Is
that pure point?

Pure
point.

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Now, that symbol is a very,
very ancient symbol, long before historical Christianity but not
before Cosmic Logos. Cosmic Logos is that symbol. I am power. I am
initiative. I am the recipient of my initiative.

That is the meaning of that symbol. That is why
that symbol is placed like a wheel behind the heads of saints. A
saint is a person who has realized he is S A
in T, self-observing, crucified one. A saint is a person that knows
he is the cause of his own condition and affirms it and accepts it.
Now, at the Last Judgment for the individual, that can occur in time
when a man or a woman suddenly realises, “My God, I am responsible
for me. I can’t blame anybody.” – It is my reaction to the
stimulus, to the event, to the circumstance. – not the event, but
my response, is my business. That is the Last Judgment. But the whole
human race also has a cumulative Last Judgment and the whole universe
of manifestation has a Last Judgment too.

It means he would be saying,
I was slow, that would be self responsibility?

Providing you accepted
that you were the cause of your being slow.

Yes

Not if you said I am
slow because somebody made me slow.

No, if you said that then that would be hell.

Well, a very nice lady said to me today that she
had made a bit of a mistake and it wasn’t her fault because the man
had told her – but her response was her response. We have to accept
total responsibility. Until we do we have
not reached Last Judgment for us, but when we do that is the Last
Judgment. We have nobody to blame but ourselves. When we realise this
and we stop blaming other people for our condition, we have had the
Last Judgment. After that we are freely, creatively beings of
initiative. We are not inert. We are not dead. Dead means unable to
change ourselves, we are able to create ourselves anew every instant.

Now, these three religions,
Judaism, Christianity, Islam, are arranged by many thinkers in this
way – The Old Testament, so-called, deals with God the Father. The
New Testament deals with God the Son and the Islamic Testament deals
with the Holy Ghost. God the Father posits the world, God the Son
redeems the world as a whole and Islam says “And every individual
within it has the Holy Spirit within the individual – not just
within the collective.” So that in Islam everybody is equal before
God absolutely, in principle, not necessarily in practice, but in
principle every Muslim is equal to every other Muslim – There are
no highs and lows in the eyes of God. Now in some Christian sects
there may be a high and low in the hierarchy of the church but not
before God. And Dionysus of Aries Hill said the hierarchy is not the
persons of the church but the order of development of the awareness
of the structure of reality. Judaism has said there is a God; there
is intelligent power concerned for the historical evolution and
development of the human race and determined to turn every human
being into a god functioning for The God. Christianity says yes, “And
I have done the work,” says Jesus. It can be done. “I have done
it. I prove it – I insult the establishment and get crucified and I
don’t complain. And I will do it again, and I will come back and do
it again until everyone knows how to do it and in those days none
shall teach another of God for all shall know him because he is what
is inside there – the initiating spirit in the centre of every
being.”

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Now, history is moving towards a condition where
the whole human race is being brought into consciousness
of their total self-responsibility. I saw a newsreel the other night
of a twelve-mile long line of corpses in Germany, on the road, living
people lying down and saying this is how we will be when we are dead.
We are being treated as not here in the middle of a military
exercise. So they took their initiative and they lay down on the
road, twelve miles long of them, and that was their initiative. They
say we don’t like this nuclear destruction of the human race. That
is their verdict. They are making a definite stand - we don’t want
to destroy everything. But there are other forces on earth that say
we don’t mind destroying everybody except us, and we have our
shelters and we are more intelligent than most so we ought to be
saved because this final judgment called Armageddon, that means the
judgment of earth’s arms – the testing of the earth fight, what
we call the nuclear holocaust, is nothing but the natural logical
product of the condition of man; that men are not fond of each other;
that the human race are not kindly disposed, that they are quite
content to be cut into groups, into individuals, into nations, into
political parties and they are quite content to blow the other side
up in the name of their own survival. Now as long as human beings are
prepared to blow up other human beings for their own survival, then
there is going to be a movement towards the Armageddon – the final
test of physical violence on earth.

Now that is preceded by a war in heaven. Remember
heaven – the uplifted – the heaved up. Heaven is the idea world –
the world of your ideas. The battle is a battle of concepts saying
materialistic Marxism believes that you are a machine that can be
manipulated, destroyed, brainwashed, sent to Siberia and so on. It is
an idea in the mind of a group of people – that all people can be
manipulated. Wills can be changed with electric shocks,
and there is another thought on earth in some other people – that
human beings are fundamentally, internally divine. One part of the
world is grossly materialistic and violently disposed and the other
part says no, we are spiritually disposed and we do not believe that
external attack and violence and brainwashing techniques can
fundamentally alter our spiritual determination to be free
individuals. This is an ideological battle. It is called war in
heaven. And the war in heaven precedes the war on earth. You can see
that in all the news every day, an ideological statement from two
sides of the iron curtain. As long as people have this war within
their mind that war will move towards expressing itself in physical
activity. Physical violence is merely the external expression of
mental violence and every day you know enough people who go about
cursing each other quietly in business and wishing each other no good
in daily life - just mentally, but tighten up the situation a bit
and mental becomes emotional and emotional becomes physically active.

Now, historically we are moving, not towards a
repetition of an identical situation as manifestation, rest,
manifestation, rest – we are moving towards a peak of
self-realisation of self-responsibility,
each individual totally self-responsible. And we are being pushed
towards it by cosmic evolutionary power which we call God. We know we
have got to face this situation. We are not going to stop the powers
on earth that prefer physical violence to intelligent solutions. We
are not going to stop miners beating policemen or policeman beating
miners in picketing fights. They have got to stop it from the inside
and until that is stopped in everyone there is a movement towards
that Armageddon which no individual can stop outside himself. He can
stop it inside but not outside. So, it is our duty to each one of us,
as an individual, to solve the internal problem of the Armageddon in
us as individuals. If we can’t solve it in the individual, in us,
simple proposition – God so loved the world he gives himself,
incarnate, as his own son, as his own spirit into the human race and
says love one another as I have loved you. Now until we can do that
we are moving step by step towards nuclear blast-off. It isn’t a
matter of whether we like it or not - it is a matter of fact.

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How much
power has an average citizen got against his government in any
country in the world? Hmm.

No one has this power.

Where would you begin?
He has got nothing except a voice of complaint and a truncheon on the
back of the neck. But, if he changes himself internally and solves
the problem of that Armageddon in himself well then he won’t be in
that position. When it finally occurs, because it must occur because
human beings are not trying to make it not occur, but the few who do
see it, they will not be in that position when it occurs.

Symbolically in the Bible you have a number – a
hundred and forty four thousand will be saved. That is not many if
you take that number literally; but a
hundred and forty four is twelve times twelve isn’t it? Ten means
ordinal perfection; twelve means governmental perfection. Now, twelve
times twelve means governmental perfection refined so that even the
details are covered. Ordinal perfection is ten; sufficient is a
hundred; a thousand is plenty. A hundred and forty four thousand
means that the impulses inside every individual within the nervous
system are so clustered together, that in every individual who has
that number, there is total self-control and transcendence of the
need for a personal Armageddon.

Four, four,
nine as well which is in the opposite to the six.

Well, you can juggle all night, if you wish, with
your numbers. The symbology is perfectly plain. We need ordinal
perfection and we need governmental perfection, and we need it to
fine details and that is the meaning of a
hundred and forty four thousand. It is not a hundred and forty four
thousand human individuals or a hundred and forty four thousand nerve
endings in your body; but it is that number needed for control of
self so that one does not have this vicious, aggressive,
counter-reactive process.

A hundred and forty four thousandpure points?

Yes.

Presumably
though that that unification is brought about by living out one’s
days in the count that you cannot do it before you can do it in one
sense, it is self-fulfilment and therefore the days of no more
judgment. Don’t they certainly presuppose a preparedness to suffer
sufficiently to gain that unity?

Yes, but
this is within the power of any individuals who prefer to accelerate
his development.

So, yes,
right.

I often
get this statement made ‘I can’t do it before I do it’ and it
means I don’t want to.

But there is a difference
between accelerating one’s own development and egotistically
cutting corners.

A very great difference. Accelerating
one’s own development is always towards death. Every moment that
you say “I am a zone of sentient power. I have an active aspect
whereby I initiate, and a passive aspect where I suffer the
consequences of my initiation.” Every time you say that and mean it
and understand it you accelerate. Every time you forget it you
retard, and you can lose your gains, and there is that horrible, very
frightening statement in the Revelation, ‘Let him that is filthy be
filthy still.’ That is on the day that the whistle blows and they
say “Missiles have just left Moscow, you have thirty five seconds
to put your back door over your bed and hide under it,” and you
might be busy being naughty. So it says if you are being naughty then
be naughty still. You can’t suddenly say, “Oh my God, if only I
had known, I would have reformed ten seconds ago. I would, honest,
Lord.”

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We are in a very, very delicate position and today
more than at any other time in history. The
battles of the great heroes in India, in China, in Japan, in the
Norse sagas – they are nothing compared to what we are threatened
with today. We are threatened with a permanent blasting of the
earth’s fruitfulness, the pollution of its rivers, its earth,
everything, for thousands of years so that all life will perish
except for the insects that have dug in deep enough beforehand.

The scorpion.

The
scorpion.

It is a very serious moment and we tend to think
it isn’t really serious, but we have a little article that says
that the nuclear shelters of the Royal
family are now well assured. There are many caves fitted up, in
Wales, like factories. There are many more all over the world for
those that are wealthy enough and have enough initiative to have
accepted the idea of that holocaust, that nuclear war and they have
already put their baked beans down below.

I know a man, and it is now,
I think, about twelve years since I had a cup of tea with him, and I
couldn’t get in the house without squeezing between the bean cans.
True. He asked me to go and see his library – a marvellous
collection of wonderful books on comparative religion, philosophy,
yoga, everything. Open the front door, it would just let me round the
door and there were beans and down the centre of the hall enough room
for us to go sideways. I said, “What about the library?” and he
said, “Sorry, it is full of beans. We will have to wait till we
have eaten a few.”

That wasn’t
sensible

He is prepared. Now, I
know a lot of people that are prepared to shoot him the day there is
a shortage of beans – true. Because, do you know what he did that
man? He was very, very foolish. He actually went to the local
greengrocers and the local grocers and the local everything and
ordered everything he needed and said “Sh, don’t tell anybody “.
You know if you go to the corner shop and tell them your most private
secret it is all over immediately, isn’t it? Well, he went and he
told everybody in the shops, “These beans are for the Armageddon”.
So where are they going for beans when they have sold out in the
shops?

He has got the opportunity though to keep
them, hasn’t he?

To keep the beans?Yes.
That is not what he is stashing them for.

Not at the moment no, not at the moment, but.

It is funny because personally is very thin, If
he stays that thin his beans are going to last him an awful long
time. But it is a very real situation and the nearer it gets to it,
the more hysterically amused by it people become. Why can’t people
take it seriously that we are going to be fried by the million? Do
you know why? Fundamentally we don’t believe in death. We don’t
believe in death. Fundamentally, it is an unassimillable idea.

There
isn’t a death

You can have a body and destroy it but have you
destroyed fundamental Sentient Power? –
No, and therefore we tend not to take it seriously, but our own
development we must take seriously.

Part 2

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Now, until we have a reference point we have
nothing whatever to discus, have we, right?

Now the least mark we can make is a point, is it
not? And we do it first as an idea in our mind,and then I will take it from my mind,
push it along my arm a point and posit it there. Now, in order to
posit it, I had to move my arm through space Now I have a stop watch,
I won’t bother to bring it out and wind it up but I could have
pressed it, start it and pressed it to stop it, between here and
there and then we would have known how many seconds it took me to
carry the idea from my mind along my arm to the playing of the
selotape…..

Can I ask a question at this point, I’m
sorry to interrupt, I make an apology for that, is the dot not a dot
before it is a dot?

Didn’t we say we had
an idea of a dot in the mind before we put it down here?

You
said before, whatever is not can never come to be.

Right, but the idea of the dot is already there
internally is it not?

Yes.

It is in the mind before it gets onto the
cellophane. There is an answer to that by Plato if you want it. The
source of all ideas is the vibrating infinite continuum of sentient
power. All the ideas are already eternally there, yes?

In chaos, yes.

Now chaos is simultaneous presentation of all of
it including all the hidden orders that could be abstracted from it,
right? Now one of them is the dot, and as it happens it is the most
economic mark we can make.

Is that the
point?

It uses the least ink and being Scottish on my
mother’s I prefer the dot to the line,
because it uses less ink, right? So I put the dot down there, but it
is already there in my consciousness. Nothing can come to be except
that which already is. Coming to be is making it manifest.

Now
supposing I write the word ‘emit’ like that, and then read it
Hebraica, that is time. I emit, I out put from the field of
consciousness which is not expressed a little bit of it called ‘dot.’
Yes?

Yes.

Time is an emission. Now I could diagram it like
this. Here is a plane in eternity, because eternity contains
everything and there is a little bit, the dot on the end of that bend
and when I look at this
this way it is a dot, but it is really a bend in eternity. Eternity
is the Field of Sentient Power. If we bend it, that bend itself can
be looked at as a point. We can ignore all this and this and look at
that and say there is a point, but it is there before we look at it.
It cannot come to be unless it is.

So we
really re-cognise it.

Re-cognise means know it
again.

Now in Platonism you have a simple statement There
is a numenal world, a world of names and the names are sound
structures of forms and they are all co-eternal, but when I utter
the word ‘dot’ I abstract from an infinity of possibilities.
Like Aunt Agatha, yes, Grandma Grey, and dot, they are terms.

So the only responsibility any
being has is for the idea he admits.

Right,
and idea means, what?

Let
in.

To-put. And you are back
in time in the ‘mit’ aren’t you. As soon as you mit, transmit,
and so on, you are posited out of the universal balanced field a
particular super-stress, yes? You, John Jeorrett are a super-stressed
pattern, different from Trevor Smith but you are fundamentally
identical in the absolute eternal chaos. There you are not
discriminated, here you are discriminated and it is your
dis-crimination, ‘dis’ means two doesn’t it and the ‘crim’
means ‘creation’ discrimination means a-part-creating. You have
manifested through a series of choices becoming John Jeorrett
manifestly, Trevor has manifested becoming Trevor, manifestly, which
shows a preference in you for John Jeorrettness, and Trevor for
Trevor Smithness, yes? And a tendency of the egoic self is to affirm
its own self is better than other selves otherwise it would have no
grounds to prefer it.

But you have to endeavour to do that which you
will seriously value.

And when you said values
you said a word with a VAL which is VOL, volition. You said you will
value.

Yes.

You will
to believe that John Jeorrett is better than Trevor Smith.

No, not making
a valuation.

No, I am making it for you.

You did.

I’m making it for you, that in the place where
you are you have preferred John Jeorrett-ness.

If were to say to you, tell me truthfully, if I,
Frankenstein, by a little switch of nerves, here or there, could
Trevorise your brain-box, would you be so happy with it?

There would be
a bit of a war.

A bit of a war, yes, you prefer you to Trevor in
your place. And at the same time you prefer
Trevor in his place.

Yes.

Yes, I love Trevor in his place, like I love Peter
in his place. I love everybody in their place.

I think it would be too much
to be Peter.

When Jesus says,, “I go to prepare a place for
you,” He is telling his disciples there
If you understand this game you can have a unique place where you can
be yourself Johning or Trevoring or whatever.

It
would have to have us make, us making this.

Make means substantial lock, yes? That is all it
means. And the substance is power. Substance is
power. You know that from fundamental physics now, don’t you? There
is no matter other than energy behaving as matter. The fundamental
substance of reality is power.

That is
transmutable.

Formally but not powerfully. It
can admit degrees, it can admit formal differences but power remains
power and that power is sentient. So it is a self-positing power, and
it posits John there and Trevor there. And it posits that John
prefers John there to Trevor there, and prefers Trevor there to
there. It prefers everybody else to be where they are elsewhere while
I am being me here. Yes?

Well
isn’t our preference a preference to one-ness?

Preference means that
before the fact you essentially make it. To prefer is to do it
beforehand.

Like
the dot.

Like the
dot. Now we wouldn’t be individuals unless there were a preference
for individuality.

Before hope, the fool is there isn’t it?

Well, God is no fool, and He, the omnipotent,
omniscient, has made these differences, so they must have a utility
to Him. Our unique individuality is valuable to God.
That is the meaning of the parable of the prodigal Son. Naughty boys
have more interesting tales than exceptionally good boys. Right? So
we are all self- assertive. By divine fiat

Yes, all before we know
so.

So absolute egotism is a divine command to be so,
in order to exhaust a possibility of an investigation.

Yes and that
too.

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Now
the word sin is the translation in the English Bible of a Greek word
that means missing the mark. The mark for any being is pure,
individuated, self-determination, and when you are purely,
self- determined you are not reactive to external stimulus. So that
you are wholly, purely you. And, if everybody in the universe are
wholly purely themselves, individually that would enrich the world
that God makes. So we have a duty to be individually what we are
uniquely, divinely imposed, we must be our unique self, not our copy
self. I don’t want to sit up all night studying how to be a second
Scargill. I am quite happy that he is being that there. I don’t
even want to be a McGregor. I don’t want to be anything that you
can throw things at.

No,
horrible.

Right, now we are going to examine time. We can
make these bends, this represent eternity
as a plane of being. Now there is a very old diagram of a human
spine, very simple, it goes like that. That’s a primitive drawing
of the human spine. The Egyptians have a rather more formulated
thing, more naturalistic for the same thing, but in oriental masonry
you would cut this into thirty-three segments, and they would
correspond with thirty three bones in the human spine. Now in the
beginning that’s how many there are, and then some fuse together.
So you say seven cervicals, twelve thoracic and five lumbar and so
on. You reduce them but you start with thirty three. Now that
thirty-three is three times eleven, isn’t it and eleven means one
over ten, it means the individual over an ordinal system. Your body
is an ordinal system; your heart beats, your liver works, we hope;
your kidneys work and over it there is a consciousness, which in the
psalm is called My Lord. My Lord that orders me about, and The Lord
that orders Cosmos about. The Lord said to my lord, the Universal
Lord or principle of order said to this local being, order, The Lord
said to my lord, “Sit still till I make your enemies your
footstool.”

And your
enemies are?

All the impulses in you which keep breaking
your unity,

Yes.

And they do. You have a
physical body reactivity, and emotional reactivity, a
time-mentational reactivity, conceptual reactivity, volitional
interference within a field of consciousness, and it is very
difficult to balance them all and until we are balanced, we haven’t
consummated our day.

Now
we have this drawing of the spine and if you say, let’s put a man’s
head on top there and we’ll have a pelvis
down here. Now
some of the nerves that come out of here control sexuality and food
appetite and so on. The ones on the larynx control your verbalisation
capacity and you have total representation of every stage in the
spine, inside the head in small. That’s like a little universe, and
the body is like a middle universe and the whole cosmos is a big
universe. So we call the body itself a meso-cosmos and a micro-cosmos
in your brain and a mega-cosmos for The Cosmos. And for an infinity
of those, the megalo-cosmos. but it is also order within order within
order.

Now the sexual nerves
round here have evolved a long, long, long, long time ago, very
closely with the food one, because if we don’t eat we can’t
breed, and once upon a time, consciousness was down there, and what
we call rising through the planes is the elevation of consciousness
from the genital area, gradually, up the spine. As we rise up we pan
out the nerves sideways like this, and put them in the body like
this, to give orders from each level like that.

Now at the bottom level we are driven by
primordial appetites and the will to survive, eating and sexuality,
yes? And the consciousness is very low in the spine for those, and
each little plexus in the body has a little brain of its own. Just
like the solar plexus is a brain which was developed in the great
saurians for controlling the tail and back legs, eighty foot long
being.

Now when we come up to the level of the heart, to
there, you have a feeling of your whole relation with other beings,
and when you come up to the larynx you have a feeling of capacity for
verbalising.

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Now this verbalising is the most important thing
there is, just as it says in the Gospel of John, “In the beginning
was the Logos, the Word,” without the
Word nothing was madethat
was made. Now word is the sound is in not? And you know that sound
vibrations produce geometrical figures on a plate of glass, the
so-called Chladni Figures, you know there is an unbreakable
relationship between sound and form and that you can actually shatter
the form of a human being, and which is done experimentally
electro-magnetically. If you broadcast a beam radio wave at Peter
here and you can shatter his nervous system, I mean break it in bits
by electro-magnetic vibrations. They’ve killed monkeys with it so
why not Peter? It can’t be much more difficult can it? So we
suggest to Peter he does not sleep on his electric blanket while it
is switched on! I mean that.

Waiting for
them both to do it then he’ll turn it off.

Now, if you don’t turn it off and you know
John, perfectly well, you cannot insulate the field when a current is
running along the wire. So when you lie on the electric blanket you
are creating a field outside the wiring of the blanket, yes, which is
interfering with your nervous distribution in your nervous system? It
can make you ill. Well that is just one of the ways of doing it, but
with beam radio you can shatter somebody’s brain process and kill
them in a matter of seconds by electro-magnetic vibrations; it is one
of the more sophisticated modern weapons.

Well I stand to gain knowing
where he lives

Now most of the fellows that do the
work are more likely to know where you are than you are likely to
know where they are.

Difficult

So, now this question of
rising through the planes. This represents one of the planes, yes?
And when we come into being we come down from eternity into the
being, through the brain and down the spine like that until we finish
up in the reproduction centre down there, and that is called
descending through the planes. Now when we descend we insert a
certain amount of energy from eternity into the time process.

Now,
whatever level you think of in meditation is the level from which you
gather the energy that you are going to posit in your body. So if you
have universal compassion, you harmonise your own nervous system and
cells; and if you hate, you also hate yourself. And
there is no way whereby you can have an inimical thought, a damaging
thought about another being without producing a corresponding damage
in yourself. So, in this oriental masonry, we have a thirty three
level being. And we divide that into three basics, thinking, feeling
and willing and then we subdivide each one, eleven. And then, to
keep it very simple put it on the hand. And see your hand, little
finger physical body; ring finger – emotion; middle finger – time
thinking; index finger conceptual, eternal proposition; thumb-
volition, palm consciousness itself. And then each finger has three,
a below, above and a middle doesn’t it? So you can begin to
multiply the symbology. But to keep it simple, you say, I am going to
write, I’ll put it here, like this, and there is the thumb, there
is the middle finger, ring finger, little finger, index finger, there
is the hand, right?. Now the symbology is this, Mercury on the little
finger, symbolizing materiality, com-merce, commercially; the Sun on
your ring finger for life force, liking and disliking; Saturn on your
middle finger, for time, Saturn-Chronos, time, time-thinking; Jupiter
on your index finger for universal concepts; Venus on the thumb for
drive, primordial push; and the triangle occurs here, in the palm and
we will put Mars in there and then we will put the moon in its three
phases on this little finger side of the palm.

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We
have now disposed the seven planets as symbols upon the hand and we
remember these and they aid us to control our own responses by
self-observation within a field of time presentation. So we now put
the thing down like this, standing on little finger, ring finger,
index and thumb and the middle finger is like the head of an animal
in time. That is a quadruped. We are led by the time stimulus as by
the nose in the fallen state. In the Revelation, it says the number
of man and of the beast is the same, six, six, six, Six for thinking,
six for feeling, six for willing, and that the number of the beast
and the man is the same for the fallen man, the man who behaves
like a quadruped. “His breath goes down to the ground even as the
beast.” But, the moment man remembers that he originates in
eternity, and eternity does not mean a lot of time, time is serial
presentation of the contents of eternity, eternity is hé trinity,
three-fold life, power, form, function, timeless, that it breaks into
the time as manifestations of being, based on emotions, based on
thinking, based on purposing.

Now, all these processes are within every
individual, down to the smallest microbe, virus, the flea. William
Blake’s drawing of the soul of the flea. The flea also thinks and
feels and wills, so does the sheep, so does an intellectual, so does
an Einstein. But it is all the same process for all beings, it is
called pantakarana,
five-fold creation, where the five are evolutes of the palm, the
fingers grow out of the palm in the embryonic development. Your five
senses grow out of the one sense you call common sense, common to the
five.

Now when you know that, you can examine your own
self physically to see what you are doing physically, emotionally to
see what your like- dislike is, mentationally to see how you are
thinking about time events; conceptually, how you are thinking about
eternally true control concepts; volitionally, what is your intent
now; and consciously in the field embracing those five together.

So it
is Mars that counts as zeal or could it be common sense?

Did you
say zeal?

Yes.

Well zeal
is an extra energy input into a situation.

Mars?

Yes, well
that is the centre. The triangle in the centre there is energy. All
energy is triple, that is power, form, function, and it simply
spreads out so that on your knuckles, you have three sections on each
finger, don’t you? And the lower part nearest the palm corresponds
with your belly; the middle part with your chest and the top part
with your head. But it is all energy. So, everything we do is energy
and when we know this, we begin to watch inside our own being for
responses from all levels.

Now to do that we must become conscious of the
meaning of consciousness. What does it mean, if I say to you, John,
be conscious of your physical body, now,
and now switch consciousness from your physicality to whether you
like it or not?

Well you become
aware.

Well, you are aware of
your body already, aren’t you?

Yes,
but what does it mean?

What
does it mean to become aware of your like and dislike? We call this
the awareness of the aesthetic., I like it, I dislike it.

What
it means is that you have the opportunity to be in control.

Right,
and what does it mean if you decide to think about your position in
time as a physical body with feelings of like and dislike?

Well it means you have the opportunity to go
on to determine whether it is inertia or initiative.

And what does it mean if you have a governing
concept of eternal validity yes, like the
concept of absolute interpenetration of all beings?

What
does it feel like?

Mmmm.

I’ve
done that.

Right,
that means, fundamentally you are for it and recognise it to be
something to do with the persistence of your being.

Yes.

Yes? And when you feel about consciousness as
consciousness in a reflexive act of consciousness, reflective
self-consciousness, what’s that like? You don’t think about your
body or your emotion or your time, or your concept, or your will,
merely the fact of consciousness of consciousness.

Well there is
a space for it, an interplay of images and words.

Well it is certainly an
opportunity for interplay of everything. Now you are rising in the
plane of being when you move from little finger up to palm, through
the other fingers and thumb. Four of them are horizontal and the
thumb is at right angles to it. Four are really all under passivity
law. Physical body is passive to stimuli, emotional field, passive,
time thinking passive to time stimuli, concepts passive to universal
concepts, volition passive to the opportunity to change.
Consciousness itself is the origin of all of them. And the initiator,
the will, is within the field of awareness isn’t it? When we put
the dot there we did so by an act of volition but before the volition
that put the dot there we have the field of awareness don’t we?

What is the critical state to be able to do
that and focus and by in sense,
sense?

Yes. Now, the Fall is
when you forget to be conscious and you don’t notice that you are
willing to do something, you don’t notice that you have chosen the
governing concept and you go under a time stimulus of an emotion from
a body stimulus and you crash into identification with the body. And
if you stay down there you are equivalent to being a mineral.

So I
am called a mineral.

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Mineral, vegetable, animal, human, super-human or
heroic, angelic. Now the space in which these six are is divine and
you can choose whether to go or down this ladder. This is Jacob’s
Ladder, the human spine is Jacob’s ladder and messages go from the
brain down and from the body up, and a messenger is called an angel,
the word angel means messenger. So nerve impulses going up and down
the spine are called angels rising and descending the Jacob’s
Ladder.

Do they stand outside time?

If you are outside time you are in eternity and
you have nothing serial to say.

Don’t
the angels have anything to do with time?

Angels in-break like this in order to say
something at that point to be received by this other point, like
there is an in-break into that human being
there and the point where it comes in to the fontanel, there, goes
through the skull into the brain, that point is an angel, a message.
All the messages come from eternity into time.

Does the angel in coming to
speak make its own effect at that point??

No, it
leaves it to the incarnate consciousness to respond to the angel.

So
there is a meeting at that point?

Because
there must be an agreement, otherwise man would be a puppet. Man is
free to make a decision whether to believe the angel or not.

But the angelspeaks through an existing process.

But an angel is a definite amount of power, form,
function, energy with a definite intent to
come from eternity into the time process. An angel is not a fiction.
It is a definite amount of power, intelligently formed and actively
trying to give you a message so that you can either accept it or
reject it.

That is when we say we have an illumination or
something of a clarification occurs and we have it.
A case of gain.

Right, so you might
suddenly get a flash of insight for which you apparently have not
worked. That is an angelic in-break.

But have we or haven’t we worked?
We have.

Or you have worked but that has not made the
thing happen. Grace makes it happen.

So it
is a gift.

It’s a gift, but if you don’t work you may
not get the gift. It does not mean that you won’t because God can
give you a gift even if you don’t work.
And that’s to set at nothing those people those people who think
you can only get good things by working for them. You see, if you
think that all the good things that you have got are the product of
your work, you become conceited. You can say, “Thank God, I am not
as other men. I’ve worked for what I’ve got,” and you ignore
grace. The ability to work is already grace.

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You see, essentially, the whole thing is simple.
There is an Absolute Self, which is the Infinite. If that Self does
not kill itself it abides alone.

How does it kill itself?

Kill means ‘lock.’ That means create. So, it
gets its only, its one-ly begotten Son is itself locked up. That’s
the messianic Self.

What
is locked up?

The power of the
Infinite Sentient Power imposes locking on itself in order to become
manifest. As in the Koran it would say, “I was a hidden treasure. I
desired to manifest myself, therefore I created the world. If I don’t
create, I don’t manifest, and the marvellous things I could do I‘ve
not done if I don’t do them. But if I do do them I am doing them.
It is I, myself, in the doing, but I must not forget that it is I,
myself, doing it. Otherwise I fall into thinking that something is
being done without my I positing it.

So there was something there to comparei
t to. Is that comparable?

You can compare anything.

So it is not relevant.

You can make it relevant. The whole thing about
creativity is this, nothing is unconnected with everything else. And
it is up to you to see a connection and make a connection if there
isn’t one. because if there isn’t one it is because you’ve
unmade the one that was in the primordial chaos. Remember, chaos is
not disorder, its an infinity of simultaneously presented orders.

Its all there.

It is all
there.

So it’s the seed falling to the ground. When
is says, unless the seed falls to the ground.

It abides alone.

It abides alone.

Now
that’s…

Is the seed there
the spirit?

Seed is
the spirit.

So the spirit
incarnates?

Itself?

Itself and
when the baby is born where is the protestation from, is it from the
protoplasm which has become, enlivened with spirit or is it just
spirit crying out in pain?

You mustn’t be
dualistic, matter is spirit reduced to the least possible initiative.

Yes.

Yes. Pure spirit is pure
initiative, matter is inertia, yes?

I see,
yes.

But when the spirit posits an
inertia, that inertia stands as matter. It’s a resistance. There
aren’t any resistances other that spirit setting itself up as
resistant to its own initiative..

So at conception then, a kind of spirit
condenses and takes some of that of from the
mother what it requires.

Yes.

….to
produce its own substantial body?

Hmmm, and there is a dialogue, because the mother
may like or dislike the baby. I mean, about eighty percent of babies
are abortion attempts that failed. I’m taking about statistics now.
So the mother has an opinion, the baby has
an opinion, the father has an opinion, society has an opinion . The
baby is in the middle of those opinions and they are all fighting.

Now
the seed hasn’t fallen to the ground has it at that point?

Yes, it falls at the point of conception, it goes
through a fall-opian tube. Its not accidental, it is not an idle joke
to get from the ovary to that tube there is a gap,
It is a genuine fall, but the word fall and pall are the same word, P
A double L, pall, covering, it covers itself. You are essentially a
being of Sentient power Absolute. Now, if you remain at that level,
you are non-manifest so that you have to get into a body which is
a-palling, it is a covering and it wraps up your essential self in a
substantial inertia, subjected to stimuli, from it’s mother, from
the environment conditions, the conditions in the womb, the
agreements or disagreements of mother and father and everybody else,
the field of that child is within the field of the total human
situation, yes? But it is appalled; it is covered by the mere fact of
becoming a fertilised entrant being.

It seizes the sperm-ovum as they come together,
it is the third force that unites sperm and ovum. And that is a real
being with a real intent but it has the intent of the mother, the
father, society at large, battling with it. Some of them come in and
they look around and they go back immediately.

In relationship
to the persistence of getting involved and incarnated

Yes.

To an
ever greater degree,

Yes.

Isn’t that also the seed falling
to the ground?

It is all seed falling to the ground. Every time
you are putting energy into a physical act, even like bending one
finger, that is a seed, a spirit, differentiate see-d, yes? The D is
a door, dalet,
see the door. There we are the plane of eternity the bend. It is see
the door there, that see-d. Seed means spirit going through the door.
If I draw you a little spirit, condensed like this, yes? And that
little there thing belongs there and it has come down there, and it
will fall to the ground, lie down there and it will come up like
this, won’t it? And it will make an oak tree, yes? Was the oak tree
in the acorn?

Yes.

No, the
oak tree was in the field, with the acorn and the acorn is the
condensation of the numenal oak tree, put into the ground to pick up
matter to manifest itself with. The numenal oak is there in eternity,
so is the numenal acorn.

The
individual oak tree.

Yes.

Well, let me ask the question this way. Can the
true individual oak tree begin to grow
until man has fulfilled his days, because until he fulfils his days…

You
disguised that same question as before,

Playing
about.

You are still making the same statement you made
before, “I can’t do it before I do it.” You disguised the
statement. You are saying I can’t do it until I do it. The oak tree
is noumenal and the acorn is numenal and so is everything else, but
in order to get into the earth body to get the mass inertia to repeat
the experiment till you become incarnate, embodied, thoroughly
convinced that you are you by overcoming the resistance of the
material body’s dictatorship. Only by overcoming the resistance do
you become you. So you have got to get into the earth. Now it is no
good taking a numenal oak up there and pushing that in the earth, it
is not economic. The best thing to do is make an acorn, put that
into the earth and then drive through it and become an oak tree. But
each oak tree is conditioned by the ground in which the acorn fell.

Is the acorn the catalyst?

Pardon.

Is the
acorn the catalyst?

No, the
power is the catalyst, the acorn is the form. The acorn is an
objective form, the catalyst is consciousness itself. Can you see it
Bill?

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There is
a tendency, which we can call ‘prodigality syndrome’ if you like,
not to want to do it before we do it. You see, the longer we can stay
out from eternity in the time process, the more we suffer, pains,
miseries and so on.

The
longer we stay out of eternity?

Yes, in
time.

Well
why is it I would have said the longer we stay out of incarnation?

Ahaaaa, you are incarnate, you don’t stay out of
incarnation, you are always trying to get into it. I don’t see you
trying to get into eternity, I see you trying to preserve yourself in
time. Everything you do daily, your work and everything about you is
an attempt to preserve you in time. You
don’t want to get back to eternity yet. Like St Augustine, “Lord,
deliver me, but not today.”

Do you
see that in me?

Oh in everybody, and you
didn’t invent that one. It is pretty obvious.

But is there not an
intelligence in saying what St Augustine says, “Not today,” or is
that a dupe, is that a trap?

That is the dupe, that
is the dupe specially appointed by eternity to make sure your
prodigality doesn’t back out too soon.

That
is what I am saying all along about…

I know
what you are saying all along, you are trying to justify staying in
the time process and saying “I can’t go back to eternity until I
go back.” I say, “Of course you can’t.” but you are making it
into a reason why you shouldn’t go back, whereas you should try to
go back as quick as you can and rely on the eternal stopping you.
Otherwise, you are co-operating with the wicked one, the one that
wants to stay out for its own ends, it is enjoying itself in time.

Now eternity is saying, “When you have finished
messing about, come back and tell me your funny stories. Don’t
think you are telling me anything, I know it all. But I’d like to
hear your version.”

Can you
see how the enrichment of eternity occurs through the idiocy of
temporal beings?

Yes.

Remember, ‘idiot’ means ‘layman’, simply
Latin for ‘layman’ and a layman is a passive being in relation to
assimilate. So we are thrown out of eternity, some of the rabbis said
we were kicked over the ramparts because we kept looking over the
edge and would not go down but couldn’t keep away from looking. And
God’s patience, like Hitler’s, ran out and He booted us over the
edge. But a very, very illuminated being, like Lucifer didn’t wait
to be kicked.

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Now remember, in order to learn, you have to make
mistakes. But you can’t make a mistake deliberately. What you do
deliberately is not a mistake, so you have to pray to be ignorant
enough to make a mistake, and it is very
hard work. It is what Neitzsche called the umvertung
allewerte
you have got to turn everything over, the same as we did tonight.
Whatever you thought, or been taught to think as a child, forget it.
A baby, when a baby comes into the world it has no regard for
anybody. Do you know that? It is totally self-willed.

It doesn’t show it
does it very much?

No, it gets a bit bigger
in the body, yes? Now when it comes in it is essentially itself but
it can’t be any good, it can’t do anything with itself unless you
first put it in jail, to make it want to get out. That is the meaning
of the presence of the serpent in the Garden of Eden. It is all nice
and then say, “But don’t eat that one.” That’s so you get
focussed on what not to do. If you weren’t focussed you would not
do it. You would have been lying on your back with Adam, now with
fruit falling in your mouth, dreaming away, perfect and totally
ignorant of misery. You would have no sympathy for the dispossessed
for the pot-bellied, starving, Somalian babies. You would have no
sympathy, you wouldn’t know about it, so you would be very
deficient, so you’ve got to be offered, but not forced to accept a
temptation. And then, when you take it, you fall and then you suffer
and then you develop sympathy, compassion, intelligence. But that
intelligence develops only in so far as your essence as a baby is
covered up with civilisation’s attack upon you to educate you.

Only
in so far as it is covered?

Yes, which it is by society
educating you. Educating is an incorrect word there. It is
indoctrinating isn’t it? They cover the essential baby. The baby
wants its own way. “Mummy I hate you, you didn’t give me an ice
cream. Mummy I love you, you did give me an ice cream.” That’s
baby talk. Now you have got to put the baby to bed, forcibly when it
doesn’t want to go, to teach the baby discipline to make the baby
become an individual which it isn’t as a baby. And then you have to
re-get rid of the conditioning that you imposed on the baby to
re-become the baby with the full knowledge of the whole cycle.
“Except you become as a little child, again.”

Is
that the second birth.

That’s
the second birth.

Eugene can you
talk about conscious and the unconscious,
is there one word because it really
makes that irrelative?

It doesn’t, it doesn’t
do that. Look. There is the plane of eternity, and that is Sentient
Power itself. It simply puts a warp in it like that and goes back.
There is no duality there, you posit your object and remember that
you posited your object. That’s the origin of the letter V. V is
just a short form of that process, I posit myself and remember myself
as positor.

Is that the beginning of the word, that V?

Beginning of a word.

Yes.

It is the beginning of the word, ‘word.’ In
the word ‘word’ you have got two of them, haven’t you?

Yes.

You have got two because there are two worlds, the
numenal one and the phenomenal one, that is phenomenal
and that is numenal. When you train yourself to verbalise, that this
idea which is in my consciousness, I am positing by my interest and,
in return, it is I who am positing it. You go back as you come in,
and that is your V for development, and all you need then is the zone
of activity, the differentiator and the discriminative process
whereby you shut the door or open it to an event. Right.

Isn’t it terribly simple. In the beginning was
the Word. Let us translate, in the beginning was the
numenal-phenomenal world and the phenomena were nothing but the
numena serialised, so there aren’t two. We then rotated that fact
to divide the outside, Infinite, chaos, from the inside, to be
ordered, included, and then we vibrate it to discriminate it and then
we categorise and separate the differences disclosed by the letter R
D, a rod of measuring or the reed with which you measure the New
Jerusalem. The word ‘word contains the whole process, just like the
word logos contains the whole process. Logos is light, that is
lambda, ( Λ)
gamma ( Γ) , that is O G,
macrocosmos-microcosmos, issuance, that is your word logos. It is all
there in the word word in the word, word; in the word wort,
in memra,
in shabda.
Whatever word you take for word you will find the whole process in
every language contains exactly the same information from a slightly
different viewpoint, right?