Vice President Biden will meet this week with the National Rifle Association and a variety of other groups as his task force on guns intensifies its efforts.

Biden will meet Wednesday with gun-safety organizations and shooting victims groups and on Thursday will meet with gun ownership organizations and sportsmen who use guns recreationally, according to the White House.

NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam said the organization accepted an invitation received from the White House late Friday.

“We are sending a rep to hear what they have to say,” Arulanandam said.

I would merely like to point out that I do not appreciate that false linguistic dichotomy: The NRA is one of the biggest “gun-safety” organization there is, not to mention a major advocate for anti-victimhood. I sincerely hope we’re not meant to be equating “gun-safety groups” with “groups that want to institute more gun control” here, because those are not necessarily the same thing. (In that vein, Nancy Pelosi tried to substitute the term “gun violence prevention” in place of “gun control” earlier today, presumably to maker her agenda sound a little friendlier — as if preventing violence somehow isn’t a huge part of what groups like the NRA are all about!).

And when the White House said they were looking for a broad range of ideas, they apparently really meant to leave no stone unturned (or at least, they don’t want to appear as if they’re leaving any stone unturned):

Biden’s task force is examining legislation that would ban assault rifles, but is also looking at the role of violent movies and videogames in mass shootings and whether there is adequate access to mental health services.

Of course, I’m wondering if getting the entertainment industry involved isn’t really about drumming up some friendly PR for whatever gun-control measures the White House does come up with more than anything else — rationale probably pretty similar to their reasoning for making these particular phone calls, via Politico:

The White House on Tuesday afternoon reached out to major philanthropic foundations not typically associated with gun control to gauge how much they are willing to get involved in President Obama’s future gun violence prevention efforts, according to a person on the call.

The call, which featured Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, Jonathan Greenblatt, the director of the White House Office of Social Innovation and Civic Participation, and members of Vice President Biden’s staff, was largely a “listening session,” according to the person on the call, who represents a foundation invited to participate. …

“There’s only one reason why you get a bunch of deep-pocketed funders on the phone,” the participant said. “It’s not because they’re great dancers. It’s because at the end of the day you need to tap into them for something.”

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When I hear Washington is calling on Hollywoodies, I think of Meryl Streep and Alar. Just because some rich LA one-percenter made a movie where he or she fired a fake gun loaded with blanks, they’re not experts on the matter, and have no right saying I can’t defend my home, myself, and my family with the weapon of my choice.

dear joe is the small gun, the BIG gun, bho, is going to get on AF1 daily to various states to get his skinny rear before the public telling those how horrible GUNS are? I might add WE are paying the tab for that anti-American forked tongue lying snakes trips!

BTW, I am thinking of adding to my rant of bho to also say, ‘the devil’s span’ about him! If this doesn’t fit what bho is doing to the US, well I feel that fits bho to a tee!
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Biden’s task force is examining legislation that would ban assault rifles, but is also looking at the role of violent movies and videogames in mass shootings and whether there is adequate access to mental health services.

For all of the Left’s talk about minorities, the poor and the middle class, it is exactly these people that it seeks to disarm.

As for Hollywood, it stood by and cheered when FDR disarmed tens of thousands of Japanese-Americans, along with many thousand German- and Italian-Americans, before he stole their property and sent them to internment camps.

“But, but, but such could never happen in the United States of America!!!”

Look for Biden to face a medical emergency when several bullets his pencil somehow get stuck up his nose during a brainstorming session.

I really don’t see Slow Joe as a vital source of dynamic ideas, unless he’s just acting as Barry’s personal messenger providing a list of plot devices that demonize guns and the 2nd ammendment which Hollywierd, barry insists be used in upcoming movies and TV series.

Speaking of the 2nd amendment, here’s something that’s been bugging me for a while: What gives the TSA the right to tell me I can’t take my Bushmaster on an airplane. I mean which part of “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” do these idiots not understand? You know what? The TSA has the power to tell me I can’t take my pint of milk on board. They can prohibit scissors and jello. I mean it’s silly, but the Constitution gives them the power to do that. But Congress and the TSA have no power based on which they can tell me I can’t bring my grenade launcher, my samurai sword or my AK-47 on board the airplane as I please. Or am I missing something?

Plugs is just the face of gun control. It ain’t “gun safety” as Begala likes to lie about it, nor is it victim prevention as with San Fran Nan. Both are liars trying to hide what they are really trying to do, disarm the American People.

You do not have a “right” to fly. To board an airplane, you waive certain rights and privileges that exceed the right to bear arms. For example, the press does not have a First Amendment right to use electronic devices during take-off and landing. A journalist waives said right when she agrees to the terms and conditions on the ticket or referred to therein.

Here’s an idea…not a damn thing can be done. We have a right to bear arms and lunatics have the right to be lunatics. If liberals want to do something, encourage law abiding citizens to pack heat. Then, gun violence will lessen. We have a Constitution. The founders were brilliant. Get over it liberals.

I’m anxious to see how civilly the administration treats representatives from the NRA. What should be expected is that they’re invited, given time to express their opinion, and thanked for coming. If the Administration does this like community organizer 101, they’ll go down another peg on my opinion scale.

Gun control ideas…mandate Eddy Eagle NRA classes for all elementary age children. Re-institute marksmanship competition in High Schools. Utilize a portion of teachers union dues for marksmanship training. Those are a few gun control rules to consider.

“Fascism will return to the United States not as right wing ideology but almost as a quasi-leftist ideology.”

- Irving Louis Horowitz, radical left-wing sociologist, The Decomposition of Sociology, (1929 – 2012) was a radical, left-wing sociologist, Fulbright lecturer, author of more than 25 books and articles, and a Professor of Sociology at Rutgers University

Horowitz is partially correct. Fascism will return with a fervour – it has not really left since 1913 – but it won’t be because there has been a change in who is practising it. The First Fascist President of the United States WAS a Progressive.

BTW, Proggies, do not attempt to play the Sinclair Lewis- “When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross”-It Can’t Happen Here card with me. Read the damn book, an AUTHORISED edition. He NEVER wrote it.

After the 2012 elections and (idiotically-named) Fiscal Cliff “win” wherein Obama forced a minority of Republicans in the House of Representatives to raise taxes on 77.1% of Americans, doing something this utterly braindead, boneheaded, and Banana Republicanistic will make Speaker John Boehner cry…WITH JOY.

Obama thinks he’s got Boehner’s number. Why not? I’d think it too. It’s all about audacity. Kick it up a notch. This is what he does. The Republicans have shown they have no idea how to deal with it. If I were a Leftist like Obama I’d be going for the whole enchilada right now. RIGHT NOW. He thinks he can alter the gun debate and 2nd Amendment in a dramatic and permanent way. He’s going for it.

Unless you have a class 3 permit, you are already in violation of the law. Are you just trolling?

Bmore on January 8, 2013 at 6:41 PM

No, I’m not just trolling. I’m trying to understand how something as clearcut and absolute as the second amendment can be parsed into “yes, you can carry a Glock but no you cannot keep an antiaircraft gun in your backyard”. What gives the government the power to require that I have a class 3 permit, whatever that is?

Did they deliberately leave out the pharmaceutical industry? How many of the young shooters in the last decade were prescribed drugs for behavioral issues? Perhaps we need a national registry for people taking certain prescription drugs.

Question: Aside from posturing (and his VP status), why is it that Biden is always the header of these commissions? Could it be that Obama rumored homosexuality is with Joe?

nobar on January 8, 2013 at 5:27 PM

I’ll treat your silly question as serious, and answer: Because Biden is a politcally ‘reliable’ apparatchik. He’ll do what the marxist Obama handlers want done. As you can see from recent cabinet nominations, that is their principal measure of worth.

“It’s racist and it’s bigoted to say that guns are quintessentially American. We live on the coast and we have a right to define the America we want to live in.”

- Alan Dershowitz

What is racist is a rich, white, liberal law professor at Harvard telling a 76 year-old, African-American veteran and retired maintenance engineer, who was once a sharecropper in the South, who has been living in the same house in the Morgan Park neighbourhood in Chicago that he had purchased in 1971 where he and other working-class African-Americans carved out their little piece of the American Dream only to watch it deteriorate dramatically and become riddled with crime, that the “coasts” should decide whether he should get to have a Second Amendment right to bear arms to defend himself against the criminals that have continued to break into his home.

What is racist is Alan Dershowitz telling Otis McDonald that he knows what is better for him while living in an Ivy League Tower.

“Like the millions of law abiding gun owners in America, I am a peace loving person. I own firearms so that I can defend myself and my family, should that need arise. While I sincerely hope that I am never in the position of having to fire a gun in self defense, I rest easier at night knowing that I could stop an armed robber, racist attacker, terrorist, or home invader if the need arose. I also rest easier knowing that my wife could stop a rapist or murderer, rather than becoming a victim. The simple fact is that gun control laws don’t stop criminals from getting guns, and instead only disarm the law abiding citizens, making them easier targets for the criminals. Nor is it justifiable to deprive law abiding citizens of their constitutional right to keep and bear arms for self defense, just because criminals misuse guns, just as criminals misuse other tools…Given those facts, I would encourage my fellow law abiding citizens who do not yet own a gun to do the following: go shooting for the first time, choose the proper gun for self defense, purchase that gun, store the gun in a responsible manner, and become proficient at safely using that gun. Next, join the NRA to protect your right to have a gun for self defense. Doing so may save your life one day, and can also benefit society as a whole.”

No, I’m not just trolling. I’m trying to understand how something as clearcut and absolute as the second amendment can be parsed into “yes, you can carry a Glock but no you cannot keep an antiaircraft gun in your backyard”. What gives the government the power to require that I have a class 3 permit, whatever that is?

Time Lord on January 8, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Because when a guy named Miller challenged the law, the courts took so long that, when it finally got to the Supreme Court, Miller was dead and his lawyer didn’t bother to show up. So the government was able to argue their side without opposition, and in many people’s opinion told the court many lies, which the court relied upon to make their ruling that the 2nd Amendment allowed the government to regulate those weapons.

CNN Anderson Pooper et al now freaking out that there has been five lines of exclusionary language discovered in the Obamacare legislation. It was inserted late in the process and it expressly forbids the government from collecting / collating gun ownership information.
Seems it was a deliberate addition to undercut the AMA’s long advocacy of doctors asking intrusive questions of their patients about firearms ownership.
Pooper is serving up softball questions to Sanjay Gupta, who is playing it off as ‘safety’ and public health issue.

Now with the digitization of medical records, such Q&A will lead DIRECTLY to the FedGov harvesting information identifying gun owners.

No, I’m not just trolling. I’m trying to understand how something as clearcut and absolute as the second amendment can be parsed into “yes, you can carry a Glock but no you cannot keep an antiaircraft gun in your backyard”.

Time Lord on January 8, 2013 at 7:08 PM

The same reason the 1st Amendment does not allow you to shout “FIRE” in a crowded theater with a bullhorn just for your own amusement, perhaps?

But frankly I won’t oppose the nutcases who actually WANT to do things like own their own AA gun. Because they are very d@mn few compared to the loudmouths who keep bringing up such a hilariously useless white-elephant ‘firearm’ just for the sake of ‘argument’.

In a perfct world the representative from the NRA would publically place in front of this communist regime a document outlying a law that would FORBID ANY Government Entity from owning, possessing, or USING HOLLOW POINT AMMUNITION! The outrage from the discovery of Social Services, the IRS, and other executive branch employees having them would certainly hurt the democrats for years to come as NO ONE can explain why they need them.

We all know [unless you are a mindless liberal] that these would be fired at AMERICAN CITIZENS WHO REFUSE TO SUBMIT TO THE WILL OF THIS COMMUNIST ADMINISTRATION and/or the Democrat Party.

Feel free to explain any good reason for Social Service employees to be armed with Hundreds of THOUSANDS of rounds of this sort of overtly destructive ammo.