Why are people so negative and pessimistic towards the PS3 exclusives? It seems to me that the exclusives are what always comes up in a PS3 vs 360 debate and usually it's for the defense of the 360. I honestly do not understand why. Maybe it's just me and my lack of knowledge of all the 360 exclusives but I seriously do not understand why 'The 360 has better games than PS3' argument still carries weight these days. Perhaps 1 or 2 years ago that would be a decent argument but surely it's bullshit these days?

Off the top of my head I can come up with many AAA exclusives for the PS3...

I think that this is an argument that has dwindled. These days, you'll be hard-pressed to find a group of people that think the 360 has a better line-up of exclusives. You'll find the odd, embittered 360 fanboy who will childishly argue that his console has better games, but there's so little truth in it now that the argument can't ever be backed up.

If you look at the console, it's very much geared towards the FPS genre which is, incidentally, very appealing to 10-15 year olds.

Two reasons:One, it takes people time to adapt. "Games" was the classic argument against the PS3. It's changed, the PS3 has some great games. But people take time to realize that, particularly Xbox fans who take little notice of PS3 releases.Two, because the PS3 is seriously lacking in one area, and no one seems to care except me: racing games. We don't have any. It's like all the developers shied away from PS3 because of the imminent bombshell that is GT5, but GT5 has always been so far away, and still is. It's ridiculous. Since GT4 the Xbox has had Test Drive Unlimited, PGR3 and 4 and Forza 1 (Xbox 1), 2 and 3, ALL great games. The PS3 has gotten...Well........Nothing. The usual cross-platform titles, SuperCar Challenge which I found to be terrible, Ferrari Challenge which is based off SuperCar Challenge...and that's all. It's disgusting and it's atrocious. GT5 will be great, no doubt, but IT'S NOT OUT.

If you look at the console, it's very much geared towards the FPS genre which is, incidentally, very appealing to 10-15 year olds.

That's biased. Very biased. I know a LOT of people who play FPSs that are of mature age, particularly games like CoD and Battlefield.I'd say the reason it looks that way is because the only games the Xbox is getting are Halo games.

Anyone who says PS3 exclusives are crap is just a 360 fanboy... a dumb one at that... I would not worry too much about it mnmfan, besides, as long as you are fun with them and as long as PS3 users are having fun with them, that is all that matters.

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If you look at the console, it's very much geared towards the FPS genre which is, incidentally, very appealing to 10-15 year olds.

This is also a big reason why you get people saying PS3 exclusives suck...

I do not, for the record, agree with either extreme. First, the PS3 exlucives hardly suck. There was a time when that was true, but those days are gone. However, I still think that the 360 is ahead of the PS3 in terms of massive library. It is nowhere as massive a gap as it once was, and I am certainly not some 360 fanboy, but as someone who owns both consoles, and who owns plenty of games on both, I just think the 360, right now, has more exclusive developer support.

Cross platform games don't count. I mean, they do, not when we're talking about exclusives. Apart from Motorstorm, Xbox has all the racing games we have, and then all their exclusives that I mentioned as well.You're right about Motorstorm, but it's not really what I'm after. It's not in the same vein as PGR, TDU, Forza or GT.And where'd you get NFS Underground from? Thanks, but it's not 2003 anymore

I believe he's referring more to track/street racing simulators rather than offroad arcade racers. In which case Motorstorm doesn't count. But frankly I'm not bothered by the lack of racing sims. But that's personal opinion.

As for exclusives overall, we're doing great. Uncharted 1/2 and MGS4 were both incredible successes, and greatly lend to the Playstation name. LBP revolutionized the genre of player-created platformers. Killzone 2, while not all that innovative, did showcase the PS3 in a way few other games could in terms of raw power and presentation.

And there are many many other exclusive titles that, though overlook, also lend reputation to the PS3, such as Demon's Souls, A Crack in Time and Valkyria Chronicles.

However, we are sill mildly low on RPGs, though to compare that to the many RPGs that pretty much stank on 360 moderately levels the playing field.~~~~~~

Frankly I think we have nothing to be ashamed about.

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Blaming Sony for the PSN outage is like me blaming my car when a bear breaks into it.

I do not, for the record, agree with either extreme. First, the PS3 exlucives hardly suck. There was a time when that was true, but those days are gone. However, I still think that the 360 is ahead of the PS3 in terms of massive library. It is nowhere as massive a gap as it once was, and I am certainly not some 360 fanboy, but as someone who owns both consoles, and who owns plenty of games on both, I just think the 360, right now, has more exclusive developer support.

This is where I think the entire argument of a larger library falls short. Where are these games? I want to see them! Seriously, if we're talking pure numbers, objectively, yeah, the 360 have a larger library. But does anyone putting forth this argument ever consider just what those extra games are?

Let me look at this unobjectively for a moment. My brother has a 360. Every time I go to the local GameStation, I look at the 360 shelf. Just for the sake of it. Never, other than the with "Episodes from Liberty City' (and we all know what happened about that), have I once thought "damn, I wish I had a 360". Not once.

The mass of crap that makes up the 360 advantage in numbers is just that; crap. All those numbers that this redundant argument consists of, it's all games from before the PS3 was released. Who cares about those old games at this point?

If you look at the console, it's very much geared towards the FPS genre which is, incidentally, very appealing to 10-15 year olds.

That's biased. Very biased. I know a LOT of people who play FPSs that are of mature age, particularly games like CoD and Battlefield.I'd say the reason it looks that way is because the only games the Xbox is getting are Halo games.

Okay, I didn't make myself clear. FPS is a great genre. I love a lot of FPS's. What I'm saying is the 360 focuses on that particular genre very heavily. Let's not forget that this particular genre often appeals considerably to 10-15 year olds. That's a fact, do with the facts what you will.

My mental image of the 360 is a 12 year old boy saying to his friend "let's blow stuff up!".

[size=1][color=#666666]This message was edited by Bergin on Feb 24 2010.

It's still biased. Most genres can appeal to all ages in some way. GT5 presents a very mature racing game, while you can see how Motorstorm would appeal to kids. But then Motorstorm may also appeal to older people, and despite GT's difficulty it's always been popular with kids as well. Saying the Wii or DS appeals more to younger gamers is one thing, but saying the Xbox does is hard to back up.

I think that the 360 is an FPS driven console, and that the FPS genre is a very big deal for people in the 10-15 age range. Sure, it's a big genre for other age ranges too, but that doesn't lessen the significance of what I'm saying.

I understand that all genres appeal to all people. But the FPS has become, in recent years, exceedingly popular with whiny little brats. This is why you see so many shooters on the 360. Simply because it's a console for 'those who like blow things up'.

What types of games do you like to enjoy while sipping on cognac, polishing your monocle, and ordering your young servant boy to make sure no vagabond infant 360 owners vandalize the statue of yourself on your front lawn? If only those 360 owners could understand a man of your intellect. Oh goode sire, the thought of a 360 owner understanding a PS3 owner... A-ha-ha!

You're just some 10-year-old FPS lover, Darknet. You can't even spell FPS properly no doubt. Pish posh, good sir. GOOD DAY.

I'll have you know that I am an excellent speller.

You are as presumptuous as you are simple and childish! Thou impertinent folly-fallen measle! To even responde to a 360 owner, I feele as if my superior intellect is being sucked away! I SAID GOODE DAY!

Seriously, if either side says their library is clearly better than the other doesn't know what they're talking about and it's not worth letting them rent space in your head.