I have never seen Moe's Baby Blues. S14 was so lame, that I quit watching after seeing that crap-o-rama episode where Homer sues the church in Springfield (that was the episode, by the way, that came before the 300th Simpsons episode craptacular celebration). I don't know if it's worth my time "acquiring" Moe's Baby Blues. Somehow, judging by what I was reading, I have the feeling that that episode is something that only a die-hard Simpsons fan could like. Although I might see it just to see what everybody's talking about. I'm a huge fan of seasons 1-8, although I do agree that there were some bad episodes in the mix (such as the aforementioned Homer goes to college episode). But that's to be expected. Even Futurama has a number of really bad episodes. But anyway, if you ask me, the tone of the series has changed along with the animation, and I don't think there's any chance of the show returning to its former glory. Season 14 is nowhere near the level of seasons 1-8.

I reiterate: season 14 started off VERY poorly but got better afterwards. "Pray Anything" (the afformentioned "Homer buys the church" episode) is in fact actually my least favorite episode of the series, but it was actually right after its airing that the show started to get much better. Plus, it was written by some apparently horrible guest writers anyway (there's some writers guild rule or something that they have to have at least one episode of every year be written by a guest writer).

I found Bart VS Lisa VS The Third Grade to be really really self-contradicting. Lisa has survived in university, MENSA and is easily one of Springfield's smartest residents - how on Earth could she possibly struggle in the third grade?!

And for the record, I personally think the first half of Season 14 was a lot better than the second half, although I still haven't seen Moe Baby Blues or The Bart Of War. I really enjoyed The Great Louse Detective and that Rock & Roll Fantasy Camp episode though.

Originally posted by Beamer:I found Bart VS Lisa VS The Third Grade to be really really self-contradicting. Lisa has survived in university, MENSA and is easily one of Springfield's smartest residents - how on Earth could she possibly struggle in the third grade?!

That episode really annoyed me. The writers created a 'hillarious' situation where Bart and Lisa ended up in the same class, and by the end of the episode, surprise surprise, everything's back to normal. I grow weary of these anti-climaxes.

I was curious about what constituted Seasons 9 through 14. After checking out www.snpp.com again, I have to disagree with many here on the quality of these seasons.

IMO, I think Season 9 and 10 aren't as bad as they're made out to be. Sure, there are a lot of medicore episodes and some stinkers in the bunch (okay, a lot). I, personally, think the show didn't start its pitiful dive until midway through season 10. There was a lot of decent Homer episodes then (which I'm too lazy to name now). Maybe repeated viewings helped my opinion of these episodes, but they aren't that bad.

The show's still in a tailspin. The last few seasons are completely forgettable. Off the top of my head, I can hardly remember anything from seasons 13 or 14. Aside from "Moe Baby Blues," I can't think of a single memerable episode from the last few years. And the THoHs are sucking, too...

Whoa, let's not say things we can't take back here. The last one had the Homer-clones, and that one was hilarious. Or there was the zombie one which was... um... or the Hibbert one... well the clone thing was good, right?

I'm actually looking forward to this upcoming THoH. It's easier for me to suspend my disbelief when I know none of it's really happening it the Simpsons world.

Whoa, let's not say things we can't take back here. The last one had the Homer-clones, and that one was hilarious. Or there was the zombie one which was... um... or the Hibbert one... well the clone thing was good, right?

I wouldn't know. I didn't care enough to see the most recent THoH. Aside from the dig at Family Guy, I heard there wasn't much to the episode.

The clones segment was awesome (including the dig at Peter Griffin). The rest of the special was horrible, but if it ever comes on you can just watch the first segment (the clones one) and switch off the tv after that. The clones segment is pure classic Simpsons goodness.

I feel conflicted about knocking the recent THoHs now. I just listened to the audio commentary for "Treehouse of Horror II," and the writers were explaining how difficult it is to constantly come up with fresh new ideas for the special. Granted, I'm not giving them total immunity, but I know where they're coming from now. That could explain why the recent THoHs are more sci-fi-y than straight horror. On the other hand, it doesn't exempt them from the bad jokes involved.

Also, they had to cut out the wrap-around stories for later THoHs because Fox (surprise surprise) shortens the episodes for more ad space.

I used to watch the old THoHs all the time, it was like a tradition, and recently it's just meh... They haven't been upto par with what they once were, of course they ran out of stealing classic horror movies and Twilight Zone scenes

I'm not sure they've ran out of ideas so much as they're going for the wrong ideas. There's still over a hundred Twilight Zone episodes and, though they can't all make good spoofs, there's got to be at least a few more in there that would work. And there's plenty of other movies, etc that they could target. I can't figure out why they haven't done an "Exorcist" segment yet.

I just found out that The Bart Of War and Moe Baby Blues will be airing in Australia on Wednesday (The new Treehouse Of Horror episode probably won't air here until February next year), so expect my review of Moe Baby Blues next week.

There's a lot of discussion about this at the NHC. Personally, my take is that both Simpsons and Family Guy parodied the same thing with the "death" segment, but if nothing else The Simpsons writers maybe should have waited a while longer to do theirs, because it did give off a "been there, done that" kind of feeling.

But is the current show better? Well, the latter part of season 14 was much better then Family Guy, I can tell you that.

Originally posted by DotheBartman:There's a lot of discussion about this at the NHC. Personally, my take is that both Simpsons and Family Guy parodied the same thing with the "death" segment, but if nothing else The Simpsons writers maybe should have waited a while longer to do theirs, because it did give off a "been there, done that" kind of feeling.

But, to be fair, The Simpsons definitely did a better job in my opinion

I actually liked the FG one better, but its all subjective. Either way though, I have a hard time saying either parody was particularly different from the other, which is my biggest problem with it. "Reaper Madness", and the whole THOH really, seems to somehow lack the actual "Simpsons" feeling to it.

what else is there on FOX worth watching? i am just a die hard fan. there are some episodes that are better than others, but there are none that i hate or find unfunny. same with futurama. i couldn't give less than three stars to any particular episode. but then again...i am easily amused.

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