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So one other thing that I "collect" are river bridge crossings. While crossing the Mississippi River 5 times yesterday :-), I started wondering if there might be a way with the current infrastructure to support something like that?

My thought was that it could work as basically a collection of road segments. So for example, I-72 between MO Exit 157 and IL Exit 1. So if you've visited between those 2 points, then it would "count". Similar to concurrencies that may already be a part of things.

@michih well i'd be onboard for cataloging just about everything :-) I actually registered a domain way back (everywhatever.com) to do such a thing but have realized I'm never going to have time to do that.

I am only a casual member of this community so I make no judgment as to whether this is a good fit here or not. Just thought I would throw it out there.

That will keep it to highways / roads so we're not (at least for now) opening this up to every random historical covered bridge in the middle of nowhere

Possibly, but one could make compelling arguments for crossings of the Niagara River (58 km) and the Detroit River (45 km). And then if this grew to include ferries, there are some crossing at least three of the Great Lakes.

I would propose not include hiking trails, railroad bridges, ferries, pedestrian bridges and the like - keeping it to highways / major roads

Given the different nature of "bridges"....if it's crossable to the normal traveler, it should be included. So bike/ped bridges, ferries, and railroad bridges where there is regular passenger service (mostly AMTRAK, but occasionally LRT/commuter rail) count. Bridges that are not passable under normal circumstances (like rail bridges without regular passenger services) and dams (with one notable exception on the Mississippi above Minneapolis) would not count.

@mapcat - I'm open to suggestions. Perhaps we could "approve" them on a case by case basis. Forgive my ignorance as a relatively new community member, but could we do something similar to how new systems are approved right now?

In the above examples, which include Amtrak, other rail transit, bike/ped, and streets/highways, I used 4 letters to denote the river name and "Rvr" for river. In the case of the Missouri and Mississippi rivers, both of which have the same first four letters, I used their postal abbreviations. This arrangement could be adjusted to whatever the consensus wants.

I deliberately did not include state or region because for many major rivers, the river itself is a boundary.

For highway bridges that may have more than one span (like the Woodrow Wilson Bridge over the Potomac), it could either have a single point to denote the bridge or separate points for each direction to signify that each direction in such cases is on a different bridge structure. This can be left to the group to decide.

I like froggie's idea as a longer-term thing, but that requires code and DB changes. If we were to make a new system "usarc" for "U.S.A. Select River Crossings" or something like that, we could have the segment or segments that you'd take to cross the bridge listed in wpt files for each, and the site update, database, and web front end don't need to change (which at this point, they would not likely do any time soon).

In the above examples, which include Amtrak, other rail transit, bike/ped, and streets/highways, I used 4 letters to denote the river name and "Rvr" for river. In the case of the Missouri and Mississippi rivers, both of which have the same first four letters, I used their postal abbreviations. This arrangement could be adjusted to whatever the consensus wants.

I deliberately did not include state or region because for many major rivers, the river itself is a boundary.

For highway bridges that may have more than one span (like the Woodrow Wilson Bridge over the Potomac), it could either have a single point to denote the bridge or separate points for each direction to signify that each direction in such cases is on a different bridge structure. This can be left to the group to decide.

Finally, the Columbia River Bridges (Lewis and Clark/WA 433), Bridge of the Gods, and Hood River Bridges could get the love I've been trying to get them...