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Will definitely be picking this up. However, December is always so hectic that I'll likely wait until I'm off for the holidays before doing so, since my flying time has been pretty near nil in the last week or so.

That has the added advantage of possibly being able to take advantage of a Carenado Xmas sale, if one should appear.

Very much looking forward to flying the F33 again, I've spent many, many hours in it in FSX. This'll be a whole new ball game!

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A few years ago, when I first started flirting with X-plane (coming from P3d/FSX), I wasn't too excited about XP10 at that time and the default planes were not very good. I bought the Bonanza as a test as my first pay ware plane for XP. From that moment on, I was hooked on X-plane10. Since then, I bought many pay ware planes for XP and X-Plane itself has transformed over the years, but the Bonanza was the addon that got me to switch.

Now with REP, its going to be my favorite GA plane. I love its sporty feel and cockpit layout. Its a lot of fun to fly.

Rob

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A few years ago, when I first started flirting with X-plane (coming from P3d/FSX), I wasn't too excited about XP10 at that time and the default planes were not very good. I bought the Bonanza as a test as my first pay ware plane for XP. From that moment on, I was hooked on X-plane10. Since then, I bought many pay ware planes for XP and X-Plane itself has transformed over the years, but the Bonanza was the addon that got me to switch.

Now with REP, its going to be my favorite GA plane. I love its sporty feel and cockpit layout. Its a lot of fun to fly.

Rob

The Carenado F33A has long been among my favorites in FSX, even with the last few years bringing (in FSX) aircraft of higher fidelity and graphical 'prettiness'. In my simulated hanger, it still holds it's own among the A2A and RealAir offerings. It's very much a great feeling aircraft to fly, and I've always returned to it.

I had yet to pick it up in XP since I didn't see the benefit in owning it for both platforms. However, the REP addon changes all of that... now I'm going to be sad that my FSX version isn't finished to that level!

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A few years ago, when I first started flirting with X-plane (coming from P3d/FSX), I wasn't too excited about XP10 at that time and the default planes were not very good. I bought the Bonanza as a test as my first pay ware plane for XP. From that moment on, I was hooked on X-plane10. Since then, I bought many pay ware planes for XP and X-Plane itself has transformed over the years, but the Bonanza was the addon that got me to switch.

Now with REP, its going to be my favorite GA plane. I love its sporty feel and cockpit layout. Its a lot of fun to fly.

Rob

I feel the same way about The Baron,It really feels so comfortable to me,I'd love if they did this fantastic twin.

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Does anyone know if the Carenado + Expansion Pack is more realistic than the AirFoil Labs Cessna? Looking for most realistic experience...and since I don't yet have this particular carenado the cost is the similar. Recommendations? Thanks!

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Does anyone know if the Carenado + Expansion Pack is more realistic than the AirFoil Labs Cessna? Looking for most realistic experience...and since I don't yet have this particular carenado the cost is the similar. Recommendations? Thanks!

well it is certainly on par, saying what is the most realistic is hard to say, as they are different models. However i have to say REP is adding more and more functionallity onto each plane with each update. So personally i find REP more convincing. The model of the Airfoillab is certainly more beautiful though as REP has to work with the carrenado models.

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Just a follow-up...finally picked up the F33 REP and I must say, the plane is so much more real feeling...much more controllable...even taxiing. Feels like a different plane. Completely worth the cost IMO...fortunately I picked up the F33 during the holiday sale...now wish I had grabbed the centurion too. Not a pilot IRL...but this exceeded my expectations. Some planes seem too difficult to fly (won't stay trimmed at constant speed, climb nose up on take off even with supposed proper settings, etc)...this one NOW feels realistic. Recommended.

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I am a long term FSX and Carenado F33A user. Is there any possibility of at least certain elements of the Sc REP for the F33 working with FSX?

I don't have a clue of X-Plane world and what it would mean for hardware (e.g. CH Yoke/Rudder, Saitek TQ, etc). I haven't yet checked, but I imagine these questions can be answered somewhere within this forum.

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I am a long term FSX and Carenado F33A user. Is there any possibility of at least certain elements of the Sc REP for the F33 working with FSX?

Well,

Lets look into what Dan Klaue and his Team has to do to convert a FSX-plane:

They take the original 3D models, the textures ahnd the sound recordings of the FSX plane.

Then they have to modify the 3D models. In FSX you have an inerior model and an exterior model. X-Plane on the other hand has one 3D model that contains the whole plane. After this is done they have to genrate a new plane in PlaneMaker. There they have to put the 3D model together with an aerodynamic model of the plane. They have to add the engine, its profiles, the basic controls, the instruments and so on. Then they add a number of plug-ins.

This is they reason why X-Plane Carenados always behave differently to their FSX predecessors. They are new planes with the X-Plane default engine, their own aerodynamik model and several plug-ins that improve the flight model and add new features.

And what does simCoders do? They add a few of their own models that replace parts of the default logic of X-Plane. Then they replace the aerodynamic model, add additional sound effects and replace the sound logic of the Carenado planes. So even Carenado can´t really say how the new enhanced plane behaves.

And now tell me how anyoune should convert parts of these enhancements back into the FSX?

It would be more or less a rewrite of the internal flight model in FSX.

There is no way to directly convert a plane from FSX to X-Plane or vise versa. It is more or less a total exchange of the flight model.

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Yes to all teh above, good to get a video card with 4 gig VRAM xplane will use most of it. XPLANEsS AI traffic is sparse but you can get addons just like FSX. ATC is IFR only hope thye fix it fro landing at non controlled aiprts as you cant follow proceduers ie declaring runway intentions etc, but the ATC seems more accurate at getting you to the correct runway. Once 10.5 is released and more airports are updated for correct taxying it should get a lot better. Xplane 10.5 wil spawn lots of aircraft for aiports that are dont to make the airport look busy but only have a few AI planes running which helps with framerates. A work in progress but ATC will even hold you when crossing runways which FSX doesnt do,

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