Three California Democrats have a warning for contractors who sign up for President Donald Trump’s border-wall construction project between the U.S. and Mexico: Build it, and we will divest from your company.

In the latest act of resistance against the Trump administration, the state lawmakers have introduced a bill that would force the state to drop its pension investments in any companies involved in the project.

“This is a wall of shame and we don’t want any part of it,” Assemblyman Phil Ting, D-San Francisco, said in a statement. “Immigrant stories are the history of America and this is a nightmare.”

It's not a surprise Mr. Ting knows nothing about the history of America? He's not American.

Given most construction work done in California is of the off-the-books mestizo type, they can just blindfold them all as they roll them to the job site, put extra high tarp all around so they can't see how close they are to the border. Throw them into laundry dryers to disinfect and disorient them further during their 15 minute lunch breaks. Tell them all that they can take them home as soon as the job's completed as a bonus, courtesy of Mr Ting.

Goes without saying, Mr Ting may not realize he's dealing with a Commander in Chief who just may take him up on his offer and raise him one, divest the whole fucking lot of gov't pensions for the entire state.

Building the wall is fine, but the larger problem is that the enforcement agencies aren't allowed to do their job. The agencies must be purged if they're going to be effective. In addition, those agencies and programs that provide succor to illegals must be eradicated as well. I'm quite certain that an economic depression will force many illegals to self-deport. If that is the case, bring it.

My sister was so proud of herself the other day. Linked a video on FB about how the wall is stupid, because AIRPLANES and BOATS everyone. You hear that people? The illegals will just turn to airplanes and boats if we build a wall.

In the video, an illegal Indio was speaking in Spanish about how airplanes still exist and a wall won't stop others from coming.

That'll show Trump! He's such a dummy, thinking a wall would work while forgetting about planes!

Bounties for finding Illegals would very rapidly get people turning on each other, but, from a strategic point, that comes in Stage 2. We have both capacity and Will issues to deal with first in tandem.

"To make the fence eye appealing, it has to blend in with the surrounding environment while the “north side of wall (i.e. US facing side) shall be aesthetically pleasing in color.”"

And I love that part. 30ft wall that looks good from the US-facing side. Trump wasn't lying!

If you really wanna ramp up the deportations, agents from the various immigration enforcement agencies could be paid a trailing commission, equal to the value of welfare consumed by the illegal, for a 2 year period. Sunset clause this to end 2 years after the God Emperor's final term.

Let California BE the gap, and let the illegals flow into there, and then withhold federal monies from sanctuary cities...let the voters there enjoy the fruits of their voting habits--then as things get worse, start to build the wall on the east side of CA, brick by brick.

If they are going to "defect" as a state, per Game Theory, then you force them to double down on their defection and marry them even CLOSER to their chosen side.

Looking Glass said:"Bounties for finding Illegals would very rapidly get people turning on each other, but, from a strategic point, that comes in Stage 2. We have both capacity and Will issues to deal with first in tandem."

I understand the issue of moral authority and agree. But you are always going to get the heart breaking videos of crying children and 'law abiding' hard working illegals etc. Perhaps instead of the full trailing commission going to the agents, half the welfare savings could go to infrastructure rebuilds, pensions and schools(in english).

A bounty system where American citizens can report illegals and if the tip leads to deportation there is a cash reward, say $100/head. That will certainly start putting pressure on the illegals, not that I expect this to happen :( ...

The Hungarian government has deployed the first of a proposed 3,000-strong “border hunter” force to back up existing police and army patrols securing that nation’s borders against the Third World invasion.

According to a Reuters report, the auxiliaries are being deployed after a six month intensive training course, and are being recruited with salaries well above the national average.

Budget for the wall will have to include security for contractors and their workers. That will be one of the things leftists will do is to dox and harass the crap out of the workers who show up for the job as well as their companies.

OT but since it was mentioned above: re California pensions, they're in more trouble than they know and they'll be very much part of the crisis that will accelerate over the next few years. Have a feeling our IRA's and 401k's will be targeted in an effort to fill the gap when increases in our various state based taxes fail to fill the gap.

Bounties probably aren't necessary, at least not yet. The problem with illegals isn't that they're too hard to find. The cops know where they live and work. Any contractor can tell you where they assemble to wait for day labor. It's just a matter of collecting and processing them.

Once the first 95% have gone back, it might be necessary to get more creative to find the tricky ones. Or, Americans might decide to turn our attentions to the likes of Mr. Ting instead.

"That'll show Trump! He's such a dummy, thinking a wall would work while forgetting about planes!" Yes, well...about that. It appears planes landing in the middle of the night are how Muslim immigrants are suddenly showing up in numerous places around the USA unbeknownst to locals. So yeah, it could be planes.

The Mexican side of the wall could have murals of Clint Eastwood, Chuck Norris and John Wayne types packin heat. The American side could have murals of happy reunified Mexican dreamers, on the other side of a big beautiful wall.

Cail Corishev wrote:Once the first 95% have gone back, it might be necessary to get more creative to find the tricky ones. Or, Americans might decide to turn our attentions to the likes of Mr. Ting instead.Yeah, that's the real trick, once the rest of our like-minded but slightly less woke Americans finally grow up. After we get to the point that illegals like the Rockville Rapists are gone, and the rest of the detritus that snuck in over the border or by boat to Florida, or even who simply let their visas expire or entered fraudulent chain migration chains, then it's time to start working on the anti-American LEGAL immigrants.

There will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth. But with any luck, there won't be much blood.

I recently visited Montgomery County, Maryland where I was informed that "needy" children are not only fed twice a day at school, they are issued brown bags for the weekend. Fool that I am, I spent my life pouring grain into the top of the silo, saving for retirement, only to ignore the fact that "needy" people were ensconced in the cellar eating the seed corn. I guess the welfare state will only end when the food runs out. Then things get ugly.

I understand that many conservatives want to go back to the old way of calming down the liberals and their radical allies, but how about saying to hell with that fail and go straight to taunting them to stop talking and to pick up that gun, like the Dirty Harry movie ending, all that excitement and stuff.

I know a few marines who would be more than happy to play with the cartels on the southern border...Forget Syria, Russia can handle that, pull those troops out and put them on the southern border.Trump needs to start immigration squads like Orban and deploy them to the major urban areas. He has the complete authority to do that through DHS and ICE.

These fake Americans can go fuck themselves. They know absolutely nothing about America and traditional American values, nor will they ever learn. We will send them all scurrying back to the outer darkness from whence they came.

I work with government contracting officers. If they are really condensing the acquisition period to three weeks-- this is HUGE! This is normally never ever done-- especially with construction contracts. If the acquisition period is condensed, it almost always means that somebody high up lit a fire under it.

Maybe the left would be ok with the Wall if it were contracted out mainly to illegals. Trump should offer the left a deal like that, then at the last minute renege and have only American workers. And when the left squawks, he can tell them the old joke... Man to woman: "Would you go to be with me for a million dollars?" Woman: "My goodness... Well, we'd have to discuss terms, of course... "Man: "Would you go to bed with me for five dollars?"Woman: "What kind of woman do you think I am?!" Man: "Lady, we've already established that. Now we're just haggling over the price."

Have ICE/DHS setup some teams at the local moneygram / western union / money transfer houses in the urban hispanic neighborhoods. It would be a 2-for-1. You hit the remittances going back to Mexico and you light a fire under the invaders. Keep them unsure of where they will be safe.

Physical obstacles need human presence or otherwise they are statues in the park.

If you think the left is howling now, if Trump our GE were to start tightening the noose on the immigration financial rackets such as 10 dependents for every immigrant who files taxes for EITC the howling would go to setting 11.

Maybe the left would be ok with the Wall if it were contracted out mainly to illegals.

There are many Americans of Mexican descent whose families have been here for generations, who voted for Trump and oppose illegal immigration. It shouldn't be too hard to find a few who own construction companies, and hire them to do something on the Wall. They don't even have to do much serious work on it; just run them out front any time the media wants to interrogate someone about how raciss it is.

Mr.MantraMan wrote:Physical obstacles need human presence or otherwise they are statues in the park.

If you think the left is howling now, if Trump our GE were to start tightening the noose on the immigration financial rackets such as 10 dependents for every immigrant who files taxes for EITC the howling would go to setting 11.

The IRS knows exactly which SS numbers are being used multiple times or belong to dead people who are filing. It would be trivial to have the IRS audit those numbers and shut down the illegals…

"Here son, this brick here has granddad's name in it, when we built the Great Trump wall each American got their name written in one of these, was such a huge thing it covered the GDP loss for the shut down of the healthcare system of their time called... O... O-something-care. No one remembers what name it was, it sucked anyways, unlike our new system: No-One-Cares."

Three California Democrats ...Build it, and we will divest from your company.

Even better with out of state contractors you don't have to worry about wetbacks sabotaging the structural integrity of the wall more than what they do when they want to build things.

All those rich Mexicans will give each group of 4 poor Mexicans (sorry, future Americans) one Cessna (and train one of them to be a pilot

We can recruit Jeb BUsh's wife to say "Da plane boss da plane"

Jesus, there actually is a "#PoorLittleTingTing" in real life?

The surprise is he is not jewish.

Maryland where I was informed that "needy" children are not only fed twice a day at school, they are issued brown bags for the weekend

No one wants to crack down on the fraud of selling $50 of food stamps for $20 cash at the Asian owned bodegas. We even pay black kids not to commit crime http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-28/america-hits-rock-bottom-cities-are-paying-criminals-1000-month-not-kill

immigration financial rackets such as 10 dependents for every immigrant who files taxes for EITC the howling

They can get a check for EITC fraud that is bigger than many EMTs earn in a year of full time pay.

If you think the left is howling now, if Trump our GE were to start tightening the noose on the immigration financial rackets such as 10 dependents for every immigrant who files taxes for EITC the howling would go to setting 11.

Maybe a good sign, or maybe just smoke, but I was informed that my tax return would be delayed this year as my state was taking extra time to verify all dependents before issuing refunds.

Very small step, maybe. This is the first year since we've claimed dependents that this has happened.

The Left's howling will go on, until it doesn't. A successful border wall would lower the volume tho', for a bit.

One thing Sherman did was attack the rich guys. So, we might well have to send out squads equipped to bag targets, and then vacuum up alll their assets. Do this a few dozen times, and the Left would shatter if joined by general push forward on other issues.

On a practical matter: I was hoping the wall on the southern border would actually be TWO walls, with a 50 yard empty space in the middle so if you somehow breach the first wall you have to run through a no man's land and risk being shot before even reaching the second wall. Guard towers every so often and of course cameras everywhere. Isn't this kinda standard for security perimeters?

Two walls maybe too expensive? Looks too Soviet? Certainly requires more land. But two walls needn't be as high as a single wall.

Anyone here with military experience on such matters can shed some light?

I followed a link at OD to the Federalist, so how long before the Federalist censors the alt-right? Or is the Federalist now a click bait site that draws in the alt-right shitlords to drive traffic. Anyway the article is by some cuck named Owen or something and it was basically telling white boys "you are foot washers and nothing more."

And you have to wonder why organized Christianity is collapsing with young whites.

Most of the Cement will come from a Mexico-based company. Not a joke. And they'll be really happy to provide it.

@71 frigger61

Some places probably need it, and expect some designs with Mexico-side impediments. Realistically, there's only certain areas that allow for regular crossing and there is already full walls along good chunks already.

But, for the time being, it's going to be on Federal Land only, so there might be issues with double staged walls. Though it's also possible they'll do that in some areas. There's a lot of various terrains they're going to cover, so expect multiple types of Wall segments.

Well, if I'm remembering right, there's two Reservations (which is less about the border itself and more about everything revolved around moving equipment through the land) and good chunks of the Texas part of the border is the Rio Grande itself. So there's issues about how far off the Water you're building a massive wall.

Use blacks to build it. They are American, and they aren't fans of Mexicans. We used black enlisted against Native Americans on the plains. Travis County had a black sheriff that sent illegals to ICE. The Hispanics campaigned- HARD- to get a Hispanic female into office. She loves illegal immigrants. The towns surrounding Austin want Austin bankrupted and put under federal jurisdiction.

There are informal campaigns to not shop in Austin, to keep any and all tax money out of that town. I've learned to get most things shipped in, rather than drive ten minutes into Austin.

Have a Texas German supervisor: great builders, but use Appalachians, or oil field hands. They need the practice with concrete so that when we start building nuclear reactor power plants again, they'll be able to build well.

Specifically, use black teenagers in football who won't go to college on a scholarship. They've got muscle, and they don't need to take up drugs as a hobby. Get them to be pro-American before the BLM thugs turn them. Their unemployment rate is disgraceful. They might not be bright, but they can use a shovel.

Have kids on college break build. Key a years' college tuition to three months work on the wall: any race or color can earn that, if they are ambitious.

A Black focused public works program could be a great idea and further pushes back against the hispanics since blacks and hispanics are each others main competitors.You are going to need some good Drill Instructors though to de-ghettofy a large % of the black youths.

Talk about hollow threats: soon CA will be "divesting" from almost everything in a desperate attempt to plug the gaping pension wound.

Yet another part of the coming preference cascade. "Hello, Mr. Millennial. Grandma has to move in with you because Democrats like Ting, Gonzalez and Garcia played politics with the pension fund and now it's is broke and had to renege on paying her. Oh, don't forget about her cats... Have a nice day."

Ask your idiot sister how many illiterate-in-three-languages Aztecs can afford their own Cessna or Piper Cub and of those who can, how many of those few aircraft-owning Aztecs want to come to the U.S. to work illegally for sub-minimum wage doing hard labor. Answer should be hilarious

I still like putting a minimal bounty in place. It creates a nice predator-prey dynamic that disincentivizes illegals from coming in and incentivizes them being reported deported.Yes the leftist are going to squeal but they will no matter what.

Hello, Mr. Millennial. Grandma has to move in with you because Democrats like Ting, Gonzalez and Garcia played politics with the pension fund and now it's is broke and had to renege on paying her. Oh, don't forget about her cats... Have a nice day."

If anyone has an older relative who served in the military during wartime or their spouse there is an Aid & Assistance thru the VA which will pay for family members to care for them or home health. There are 3 different versions. The aid & assistance for spouses has a qualifying thing similar to Medicare but only goes back one year to look for asset shifting. If you know any poor wartime vet over 65 have them look into the VA pension version.

Grayman wrote:Have ICE/DHS setup some teams at the local moneygram / western union / money transfer houses in the urban hispanic neighborhoods. It would be a 2-for-1.Actually, it would be a 3-fer. It would shut down the money transfer agents as well. That would hit Carlos Selim right in the wallet.

Grayman wrote:Then you can play their game.... "what, you think an illegal is more important than protecting an innocent 16yr old from a brutal rape, or a mother from being murdered and taken form her family?"

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Expect the left to file a class-action suit with some black-robed dictator, that the Wall is violating umpty-ump EPA regulations.

I swear to God that everything Trump tries to do is going to be stymied this way. He has no choice: he must swallow the Red pill and declare a Constitutional crisis with the judicial system by charging malfeasance in office based on willful distortion of the Constitution for predetermined political ends. If he doesn't, then he might as well give up and declare the US a total loss.

"Once it's up all the noise and posing will stop." Congress needs to attach a rider to a budget bill that makes it a felony punishable by 20 years in prison for damaging the wall or aiding a foreigner in breaching the wall.

While internetting about, I believe I saw a law particularly aimed at those who aided and abetted illegal immigration.

Here we go:https://www.justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-1907-title-8-usc-1324a-offenses

Declare war on Mexico. We certainly have causus belli. Then start up the mass treason trials, for giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war. Tens of millions will go to the gallows, all in complete accord with the Constitution.

It's good the wall is being built on federal land EXCEPT ... Constitutionally speaking the federal government cannot own land for land's sake. And the fed can only purchase land within the borders of a state WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE LEGISLATURE OF SAID STATE. The federal government has no Constitutional EMINENT DOMAIN POWER, the states did not give the feds that power. Had eminent domain power been included or even thought of during the ratification, the Constitution would never have been ratified because the states would never have approved giving the fed eminent domain within their borders. So the Framers made the ONLY method if obtaining land within state borders through purchase following permission and then restricted those purchases to land for "NEEDFUL BUILDINGS". The wall is a needful building BUT the feds have to buy the land from each state. If the land was taken by eminent domain, it was taken illegally and unconstitutionally. So the states CAN put the kibosh on the purchase and the wall. But don't tell anyone.

105. Loki7: Any obstacle is only an inconvenience, intended to block the weak and slow down the determined. That's why all obstacles are to be covered by fire. Ready response teams will plug most holes in the dyke.

Dumb insolence is an offence against military discipline in which a subordinate displays an attitude of defiance towards a superior without open disagreement. It is also found in settings such as education in which obedience and deference to a teacher is expected but may be refused by unruly pupils.

Mr. Ting needs to catch up on his American History lessons, especially the chapters about Abraham Lincoln. President Trump may take a few pages from Lincoln's precedents and use them himself. After all, the Democrats in California are apparently leading their state into REBELLION against Federal authority, claiming secession as their goal.

In which case, the president of the United States may decide to recognize a NEW state government as the legitimate government of California and use Federal troops to make it so. That was exactly what Lincoln did in Missouri. The historic state government of Missouri was forced into exile in Texas by Federal bayonets until the end of the war. In Maryland, Lincoln tossed the entire state legislature into prison. Kentucky? Arkansas? West Virginia? Yes, these are all variations on the same solution.

Whenever a state government (again the Democrats) decide to lead their state in the direction of rebellion against the Federal government (and secession), the president has the precedent and (apparently) lawful authority to recognize a new state government for that state.

@38 RAPresident Trump could ask for 100,000 VOLUNTEERS to build and protect the Wall and have 250,000 by the end of the month. That is exactly what Lincoln did in 1861, so apparently it is constitutional.I hope he does this.

Dirk Manly wrote:Ask your idiot sister how many illiterate-in-three-languages Aztecs can afford their own Cessna or Piper CubI need to ask what the rotor downwash velocity is on the big military 'copters. I bet it's greater than the best climb rate of the little Cessnas and Pipers.

This means fun times for our Army chopper pilots: fly over invading 4-seater, force it into an immediate descent (preferably over rugged terrain), get the crash on camera to broadcast on Mexican TV. No illegal would dare set foot in one of those things again.