Bad decision making is bad. What exactly was the goal, to let Sale get back to the 130 pitch count again? That worked so well the first time.

Ugh, brutal loss, pin this one squarely on Robin's chest. No excuse for not pulling Sale the second the shutout was gone, but when the next guy reached base only a dumbass would have left him in. Once the bases were loaded how the **** does he pitch to Trout?!!?!?!?

Yo Robin, making that call is what managers do. You don't leave it up to a guy with an ego like Sale. He's NEVER going to tell you it's time to come out. YOU HAVE TO BE THE BAD GUY!

If you can't do that, you should ****ing quit...

I repeat... ugh...

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As the Sox get better -- and they are on the upswing -- these kind of losses will be more and more rare.

Not if Robin can't learn when to pull the ****ing starter who is in the middle of melting down for everyone to see.

Back end of the bullpen has been solid. Once the shutout was gone, you have to go get someone. Sale was pushing 100 pitches already anyway and he's 3 starts removed from the DL probably due to over work earlier in the season.

Ventura had a brutal 8th inning tonight, I totally agree with that. I just hope the bad decision making tonight was an aberration.

One more point: Ventura defers to Don Cooper on pitching decisions or at least he has. So I have to wonder -- was Cooper on board with how the 8th inning was handled tonight?

Yeah I'm hopeful he'll learn. I also understand it's easy to accept a guy like Sale at face value when he says he's fine. Maybe next time Robin will make the hard call and pull him. No point in letting him get to 112+ pitches when he's clearly struggling.