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high with Bargnani was probably season 3. it was pretty clear he was just a jump shooter by then and he had no aptitude for the physical side of the game.

of course everyone on this forum was screaming "what are you crazy? you can't sell on him now! you have to hold him to recover the value of the pick!" LOL

Pretty sure the thinking was that there would be no need to trade him because there was huge potential in the way the team thought he would contribute. Didn't hear one person say we needed to recover the value of a pick through trade.

Well that may have been. But that would hardly have allowed Casey to try to work with him. Unless you're also saying that Casey should have been hired to coach BEFORE the Mavs won the championship and BEFORE Rick Carlisle recommended him. Not so simple or straightforward.

Bargnani is my boy so I have to say yes. I still believe we saw an emerging all-star last season who can lead a team offensively. Valanciunas and him have complementary games as well and Jonas covers his *** on his shortcomings with his style of play.

I'll get ripped for this and that's fine but...I believe we have the nucleus of a contender on this roster right now.

I believe in Bargnani regaining his form from last year which, outside of that horrid SA game, he has been showing the past two weeks.

Demar is quickly turning into one of the brighter young SGs in the league now that his one on one game has taken a big step forward and he's being much more assertive in other aspects of the game.

Jonas already is showing to be at the very least a Joakim Noah type of player who has the potential for greatness.

Terrence Ross, although I was hard on him for a while after the draft, is really starting to impress me with his overall game, his defense and his athleticism. I think that although he gives up inches at the position, he and Demar should be starting alongside one another at the SG-SF positions. He also has the potential to be an all-star in this league in a couple years.

Lowry is a stud when he's right.

Sure...we don't have a top 10 player in the league...but look at teams like Boston, Memphis and Denver. They have very good players throughout the roster, excluding Rondo, who are maybe top 20 at best in the league.

We currently have five players who I believe have the potential to be top 20-30 players in this league on one roster. I do agree though that our roster isn't perfect and as such, I also care too deeply for this team to refuse to trade my favorite player just because I see what others might not. If trading Bargnani means we bring in another PF who plays great defense to give us a great interior defense then by all means I would do it.

Hell, I'd take a Asik for Bargnani trade right at this moment and start Asik and Jonas together even though both play inside.

That is the only way I trade Bargnani though. He's still got so much growth offensively and he can carry the team on that end.

Bargnani is a scapegoat. It's time to stop looking at the individual trees and to start looking at the whole forest.

Bargnani is my boy so I have to say yes. I still believe we saw an emerging all-star last season who can lead a team offensively. Valanciunas and him have complementary games as well and Jonas covers his *** on his shortcomings with his style of play.

I'll get ripped for this and that's fine but...I believe we have the nucleus of a contender on this roster right now.

I believe in Bargnani regaining his form from last year which, outside of that horrid SA game, he has been showing the past two weeks.

Demar is quickly turning into one of the brighter young SGs in the league now that his one on one game has taken a big step forward and he's being much more assertive in other aspects of the game.

Jonas already is showing to be at the very least a Joakim Noah type of player who has the potential for greatness.

Terrence Ross, although I was hard on him for a while after the draft, is really starting to impress me with his overall game, his defense and his athleticism. I think that although he gives up inches at the position, he and Demar should be starting alongside one another at the SG-SF positions. He also has the potential to be an all-star in this league in a couple years.

Lowry is a stud when he's right.

Sure...we don't have a top 10 player in the league...but look at teams like Boston, Memphis and Denver. They have very good players throughout the roster, excluding Rondo, who are maybe top 20 at best in the league.

We currently have five players who I believe have the potential to be top 20-30 players in this league on one roster. I do agree though that our roster isn't perfect and as such, I also care too deeply for this team to refuse to trade my favorite player just because I see what others might not. If trading Bargnani means we bring in another PF who plays great defense to give us a great interior defense then by all means I would do it.

Hell, I'd take a Asik for Bargnani trade right at this moment and start Asik and Jonas together even though both play inside.

That is the only way I trade Bargnani though. He's still got so much growth offensively and he can carry the team on that end.

Bargnani is a scapegoat. It's time to stop looking at the individual trees and to start looking at the whole forest.

"Bargnani is a scapegoat" so true ... the hate on him is ridiculous... .. i dunno about the contender thing ahaha.. but we have a potential playoff team here