I don't think it'll be as good a news as we want, i don't think it'll be as bad as we think.. I think he'll be out there come week 1, i think he takes it easy up until that point... Hope for the best though, i know he wants to be out there.

hawker84 wrote:I don't think it'll be as good a news as we want, i don't think it'll be as bad as we think.. I think he'll be out there come week 1, i think he takes it easy up until that point... Hope for the best though, i know he wants to be out there.

If he takes it easy and then is out there week 1 that's pretty much what I want. Get him on the field. reps or not defenses have to account for him.

NinerBuff wrote:Are you guys expecting news from the 'second opinion'?

Are you guys optimistic about the prognosis?

I expect some sort of news either a confirmation that he can play through it or that he does in fact need surgery. Overall I've become more optimistic after hearing the team Dr. said he could play through, Kam had a similar injury, etc.

I just want some certainty so the problem is solved and the team can move forward.

Of course I'm hopeful for some 'good news'.

Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

Something that's going to weigh heavily in Percy's decision is going to be a potential Super Bowl ring. Can you imagine electing to have the surgery, then watching your teammates potentially play in or win the Super Bowl that you could have been on the field for? Personally, if it's a minor tear, I'm on the field.

Honestly I doubt we hear anything today and tomorrow Pete says they are gonna take it easy with him but I doubt surgery will be performed before this season. He may opt to wait till after the season, everyone talks about how tough Harvin is, if Chancellor played with a similar injury, I can see Harvin playing through the season.

My gut tells me that Percy is going to milk this as much as he can to avoid practicing with the team, but when the season rolls around, he will be suited up and featured prominently in the offense.

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Rest and Rehab for the entire season, let the thing heal on its own without surgery, become ultra-explosive for the playoff run -- opposing coaches won't even be able to gameplan for it. The Wilson-Harvin connection would be unknown and something to be feared.

The above is imagination at play. No knowledge of science or Harvin's situation necessary.

KCHawkGirl wrote:That's too vague to suss anything out. Considering his options? How many are there?

I imagine that if the tear was bad enough that Harvin couldn't play on it at all, there'd only be the one option.

So in a way, it's good that there seem to be more.

That's what I was trying to point out actually. It seems like playing isn't a fantasy but a viable option. And all we hear about is how competitive Percy is. So maybe the situation isn't as dire as many think.

On Q It Up Sports last night, they had a clip of John Schnieder saying: "It's possible he could be suited up and practicing next week"Of course last week PC said surgery could mean he's out for the season, but that could just be a PC mind-fk directed at Harvin--"You screw with me, you don't play"

SmokinHawk wrote:My gut tells me that Percy is going to milk this as much as he can to avoid practicing with the team, but when the season rolls around, he will be suited up and featured prominently in the offense.

Not criticizing at all but your view is pretty negative as far as Harvin is concerned. Don't you think Percy actually wants to practice and play with the Seahawks? My suspicion is he is actually more than a tad frustrated by this situation and wants to play and practice pain free or at least so he doesn't aggravate the hip any further or so he knows how it can be healed that works best for him and for the team.

Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

SmokinHawk wrote:My gut tells me that Percy is going to milk this as much as he can to avoid practicing with the team, but when the season rolls around, he will be suited up and featured prominently in the offense.

Not criticizing at all but your view is pretty negative as far as Harvin is concerned. Don't you think Percy actually wants to practice and play with the Seahawks? My suspicion is he is actually more than a tad frustrated by this situation and wants to play and practice pain free or at least so he doesn't aggravate the hip any further or so he knows how it can be healed that works best for him and for the team.

Well, I wouldn't have this opinion if Percy Harvin didn't have a history of pulling similar shit. I guess it amounts to what is more important to him, collecting a paycheck (which he will do no matter what happens), or winning a championship.

At any rate, I expect we will have our answer soon enough.

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Have his former coaches or teammates ever said Percy plays games or is that just the media/fan opinion? I'm pretty much thinking it's the latter, and I suspect a lot of it comes from people who never had a migraine in their lives. If they had, they wouldn't question anyone not wanting to practice while having one.

I think Percy's just milking it for all he can. Dude hates practicing and that's never been a secret about him.

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Florio is always a negative Nellie and sometime no news is just exactly that, no news.

I don't think Percy will lose any playing time but my opinion has the same weight as the negative viewpoint.

In the same vein the news that Rice is flying to Switzerland for blood platlette treatment to his knee or knees may also be no news, a curiousity, or bad news. Pick your poison according to your viewpoint.

Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

I know it is sacrilegious to endorse a Florio opinion or to be negative about this whole thing around here, but I agree with him. If the news was good, we'd know by now.

He's just milking it for a more dramatic post and more traffic. He knows nothing more than anybody else at this point. Rapaport said Harvin would consider his options this evening: isn't it possible that the reason why we haven't heard much is because Harvin hasn't decided what he was going to do?

Bottom line, Florio told people Harvin would see the doctor and Tuesday, he knows that people are logging onto his site to see if there's any news on Harvin, but there isn't any so he spins that as something ominous just so he can have something to day about it. It may well be bad news, but the fact that we haven't heard anything yet is not evidence of impending bad news no matter how much Florio tries to pretend otherwise.

I know it is sacrilegious to endorse a Florio opinion or to be negative about this whole thing around here, but I agree with him. If the news was good, we'd know by now.

Maybe.

There is a tear in the labrum, that we know according to Seattle's doctors...........so this isn't a "is there a tear or isn't there" black and white 2nd opinion issue.

This is a "how bad is the tear, and can I play on it this year without jeopardizing my career or have long term problems" gray area. So that's why we haven't heard anything yet. It might take a couple days for Harvin to talk to everyone involved and come up with a course of action.

I am sorry, but this is just speculation on your part, even if it is coming from an exceptionally intelligent person whose work I very much enjoy reading (if theENGLISHseahawk is who I think that he is).

Colin Kaepernick is a great person, something that the NFL is sorely lacking.