Were actually not assembling any Legendaries yet, we're just getting gems and a socket. IF Wrathion does become the final boss, Maybe Varian and whoever is the Horde leader, will give us the FINAL and ACTUAL legendary to kill him off. Just speculation.

You're correct, I should have said receive. I was just pointing out that players have received legendaries during different points in the past, so just because the quest line is over, and we've possibly received legendaries, there still could be a raid afterwards. It can go both ways. I'd personally like to see another raid tier before SoO, old god/Titan related. The events of that raid could lead to Garrosh's final sin that forces everyone against him. Wishful thinking surely, but the lore in 5.2 really has me hoping we get explore the depths of Pandaria.

What exactly made you think that Siege would be 5.3?
1. cata was up to 4.3
2. wotlk was up to 3.5
3. TBC was up to 2.4
4. vanilla was up to 1.12
Do you see any pattern on which you could predict MoP would be up to 5.3? Cause i don't.

That's how superstition works. You see a Pattern in just ONE happening, and then people talk about this "pattern" long enough so everyone believes it was there from the dawn of time. Expect to correct more people for way long.

You're correct, I should have said receive. I was just pointing out that players have received legendaries during different points in the past, so just because the quest line is over, and we've possibly received legendaries, there still could be a raid afterwards. It can go both ways. I'd personally like to see another raid tier before SoO, old god/Titan related. The events of that raid could lead to Garrosh's final sin that forces everyone against him. Wishful thinking surely, but the lore in 5.2 really has me hoping we get explore the depths of Pandaria.

Tries to use demons to empower the orcs again
Thrall steps in says fuck you
Too late and a gate opens that starts demon invasion
Sargeras tries to go all algalon on some Azerothian asses (Ha, Kil'Jaeden couldn't fit his ass out)
Knocked back into the portal taking Thrall/Wrynn with him
Dramatic build up in the search for Thrall/Wrynn over the next expansion that leads to Sarge and the burning legion Xpac

Now I'm not saying that's what's going to happen, but I will say it sounds pretty sweet.

Originally Posted by Sarcasm

It's not that drugs are for people who can't handle reality. Reality is for people who can't handle drugs.

Alright you're right I was counting an extra year, my mistake. That brings the average expansion down to 23 months so far, and leaves us with probably 18 months until the next expansion. It's still too many months for only 2 raid tiers.

Alright you're right I was counting an extra year, my mistake. That brings the average expansion down to 23 months so far, and leaves us with probably 18 months until the next expansion. It's still too many months for only 2 raid tiers.

You can't only look at expansion release dates. The final raid for both Cata and Wrath came almost exactly one year after release. Not enough to establish a pattern I know, but a September release of the last raid would be right inside the window that Blizzard wants for how long each raid tier lasts. You are also making an assumption that this expansion will last as long as the others. I do not think that is true at all. I assume it will be about 18-20 months in length, with an expansion release in April or May of 2014.

I fully expect Blizzcon in August with the new expansion announcement, SoO to be out by September, and the beta for the new expansion starting very shortly after. There was no external alpha testing for MoP (because of how badly the alpha for Cata was leaked) and I see no reason why there would be any for the next expansion.

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All this complaining is simply further proof that Blizzard could send each and every player a real-life wish-granting flying unicorn carrying a solid gold plate of chocolate chip cookies wrapped in hundred dollar bills, and someone would whine that Blizzard sucks for not letting them choose oatmeal raisin.

Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking

If your guild demands you slip into an elephants butt and force yourself out in a regurgation then you can't blame Blizzard for supplying the elephant.

Alright you're right I was counting an extra year, my mistake. That brings the average expansion down to 23 months so far, and leaves us with probably 18 months until the next expansion. It's still too many months for only 2 raid tiers.

So, in Cataclysm, we had 16 months for the final two raid tiers -- which Blizzard readily admits was a mistake. Blizzard's mantra for Mists has been "get content out faster" and they've previously indicated that they want to shorten the expansion cycle. So the traditional "average" expansion length may not be a good barometer any more.

If they intend to include a fourth raid tier in Mists, then 18 months would be reasonable. But if Siege of Orgrimmar -- the admitted final raid of Mists -- really is planned for patch 5.4, I'd expect that the next expansion will be arriving sooner than 18 months. Possibly as soon as next May-June.

That's how superstition works. You see a Pattern in just ONE happening, and then people talk about this "pattern" long enough so everyone believes it was there from the dawn of time. Expect to correct more people for way long.

You can't only look at expansion release dates. The final raid for both Cata and Wrath came almost exactly one year after release. Not enough to establish a pattern I know, but a September release of the last raid would be right inside the window that Blizzard wants for how long each raid tier lasts. You are also making an assumption that this expansion will last as long as the others. I do not think that is true at all. I assume it will be about 18-20 months in length, with an expansion release in April or May of 2014.

I fully expect SoO to be out by September, Blizzcon in October, and beta for the next expansion starting either the same time as Blizzcon (announced start at Blizzcon) or very shortly after.

This is along the lines of my expectations as well. Although I have a sneaking suspicion that Blizzcon may be in August this year. That would be the perfect time to announce the next expansion, maybe provide hints of beta in Sept.-Oct., and give them about 9-10 months to get the expansion out.

This is along the lines of my expectations as well. Although I have a sneaking suspicion that Blizzcon may be in August this year. That would be the perfect time to announce the next expansion, maybe provide hints of an impending beta, and give them about 10 months to get the expansion out.

Yeah I thought about it a bit more and an August Blizzcon makes a lot more sense. Changed my post to reflect that.

All this complaining is simply further proof that Blizzard could send each and every player a real-life wish-granting flying unicorn carrying a solid gold plate of chocolate chip cookies wrapped in hundred dollar bills, and someone would whine that Blizzard sucks for not letting them choose oatmeal raisin.

Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking

If your guild demands you slip into an elephants butt and force yourself out in a regurgation then you can't blame Blizzard for supplying the elephant.

I doubt we will get another Tier after 5.4 raid, but I think we will get some small raid (4-5 bosses) to establish some entry point for new expansion ( Blizzard is surely awere how they failed with Cata - MoP transition, not even proper event).
I picture it like that - We kill Garrosh in SoO, Wrathion says "gratz, now we delt with minor problems on Azeroth, and you are ready my champion to face real threat". He gives us legendary weapon to face the challenge he foresought at start of MoP - Burning Legion. Of course main plot, and bosses will be left for new expansion, but we could fight a first wave of invaders or something, and like I said, Blizzard doesnt even need to make new gear for that, this could work more like an event raid.

I doubt we will get another Tier after 5.4 raid, but I think we will get some small raid (4-5 bosses) to establish some entry point for new expansion ( Blizzard is surely awere how they failed with Cata - MoP transition, not even proper event).
I picture it like that - We kill Garrosh in SoO, Wrathion says "gratz, now we delt with minor problems on Azeroth, and you are ready my champion to face real threat". He gives us legendary weapon to face the challenge he foresought at start of MoP - Burning Legion. Of course main plot, and bosses will be left for new expansion, but we could fight a first wave of invaders or something, and like I said, Blizzard doesnt even need to make new gear for that, this could work more like an event raid.

I don't think they will do another transition raid. They tried that in Wrath with the Ruby Sanctum and it didn't go over well at all. Basically most raids ran it until they got the achievement (so once or twice, more often than not) then never went back. And people still complained that there was no real content, constantly saying that RS didn't count.

All this complaining is simply further proof that Blizzard could send each and every player a real-life wish-granting flying unicorn carrying a solid gold plate of chocolate chip cookies wrapped in hundred dollar bills, and someone would whine that Blizzard sucks for not letting them choose oatmeal raisin.

Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking

If your guild demands you slip into an elephants butt and force yourself out in a regurgation then you can't blame Blizzard for supplying the elephant.