jpm1

the missions are horrible. but it's a good basis for modding. it has better optimization, more cars,clubs, islands opened by default, taxi available since start, and cool radios. i play it with Niko mod and IMO it's better than IV

Niobium

I played it the first time and thought it was better than GTA 4. TBF in some ways it was. It had checkpoints and more mission variety but and here's the thing: its not grand theft auto. Its like some 3rd person shooter with a James Bond element to it. Luiz is completely unlikable. He seems so passive and yet supposedly cool. His character is badly written. Is he a an anti hero? Well anti heroes usually have some noble objective. Luiz has none really. He effectively throws an innocent man off a building and arrogantly says "I aint touch you". Then to juxtapose that he seems to bend over for Tony all the time, for an annoying drunk who causes nothing but trouble. Tony has no redeeming qualities at all. Infact none of them have. Why the f*ck am I stealing an army helicopter for some annoying (I know, I am using that word a lot but thats because it is) Arab? None of it makes any sense other than an excuse for filler and for mission variety that GTA 4 didn't have. To add insult to injury Luiz asks for the helicopter, which Amir says "sure, its effectively yours anyway". Wait so what was the f*cking point in these missions then?

All the characters in the game are obnoxious as hell. I have to put the game on mute its so bad.

this is nonsense. how is luis passive? how do anti heroes usually have a noble objective? how was the guy thrown off the building innocent? wtf are you saying man

talk sh*t about luis lopez all you want but he's far better than any of the V protagonists, especially HE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED

O.Z

I played it the first time and thought it was better than GTA 4. TBF in some ways it was. It had checkpoints and more mission variety but and here's the thing: its not grand theft auto. Its like some 3rd person shooter with a James Bond element to it. Luiz is completely unlikable. He seems so passive and yet supposedly cool. His character is badly written. Is he a an anti hero? Well anti heroes usually have some noble objective. Luiz has none really. He effectively throws an innocent man off a building and arrogantly says "I aint touch you". Then to juxtapose that he seems to bend over for Tony all the time, for an annoying drunk who causes nothing but trouble. Tony has no redeeming qualities at all. Infact none of them have. Why the f*ck am I stealing an army helicopter for some annoying (I know, I am using that word a lot but thats because it is) Arab? None of it makes any sense other than an excuse for filler and for mission variety that GTA 4 didn't have. To add insult to injury Luiz asks for the helicopter, which Amir says "sure, its effectively yours anyway". Wait so what was the f*cking point in these missions then?

All the characters in the game are obnoxious as hell. I have to put the game on mute its so bad.

Official General

Luis was not the most memorable character I admit, but the overall package of TBOGT was a lot of fun and very entertaining. It provided a nice, refreshing respite from the dark, gritty seriousness, and undertones to the themes and stories of IV and TLAD. It added that big city nightlife feel to LC that had been missing in the other two games - and let's face it, the real NYC has a big nightlife scene going on, and TBOGT was the ideal game to reflect that as a main theme, and I think it did the job very good - the nightclub interiors were very immersive and brilliantly designed. I also liked the scenarios and interactions between Luis and his two buddies, they were a good laugh (despite the repetitive dialogue in some areas), and Yusuf was funny as f*ck. Even when it came to serious stuff, TBOGT still held up well - Drug Wars was a simple, but very fun and addictive side activity, but it was still straight up, hardcore gangster stuff, and Bulgarin was shown be a very fearsome villain which added to the spice.

Official General

Funny thing is I like TBOGT better than TLAD ive never gotten into the biker thing, I don't like bikes in real life so ive never played TLAD all the way through and probably never will

I'm definitely with you on the biker thing, I've never really been into it, and it just didn't suit the NYC/NJ setting more importantly.

However I'd still recommend playing TLAD all the way through, the story was good, I can't lie. It's a straight forward typical tale of double-cross and betrayal, but it's entertaining in a gritty kinda way - thankfully there are a bunch of other gangs and criminal organizations that are thrown in the mix, and the story doesn't just revolve around biker gangs.