Myth of "War on Religion" - Atheist Nexus2015-08-02T22:50:43Zhttp://atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/myth-of-war-on-religion?commentId=2182797%3AComment%3A2428602&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noi'm not sure how an atheist c…tag:atheistnexus.org,2014-05-28:2182797:Comment:24286032014-05-28T00:11:44.697Zmatthew greenberghttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/matthewgreenberg
<p>i'm not sure how an atheist can support <em>today's </em>conservatism. in order to be a right winger today you have to deny too much empirical evidence. evidence for climate change and evolution, evidence on economic theories (sorry, lowering taxes on the rich is not a panacea and progressive taxation simply works), evidence of racism which they deny exists, evidence that more guns leads to more gun deaths, etc. etc. etc. </p>
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<p>as champions of logic and reason it should be clear…</p>
<p>i'm not sure how an atheist can support <em>today's </em>conservatism. in order to be a right winger today you have to deny too much empirical evidence. evidence for climate change and evolution, evidence on economic theories (sorry, lowering taxes on the rich is not a panacea and progressive taxation simply works), evidence of racism which they deny exists, evidence that more guns leads to more gun deaths, etc. etc. etc. </p>
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<p>as champions of logic and reason it should be clear that these people have gone off the deep end. they're batshit crazy RWNJ's. i've got no major beef with having a party that fights for lower taxes and smaller gov't, but there is a time and place for bigger gov't and higher taxes - something they simply refuse to admit. </p> The fact that ultra conservat…tag:atheistnexus.org,2014-05-27:2182797:Comment:24286022014-05-27T23:43:20.512ZFuturehttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Future
The fact that ultra conservativism is splitting the limelight between Ayn Rand and Fundamental Christianity is a pretty humorous dichotomy.
The fact that ultra conservativism is splitting the limelight between Ayn Rand and Fundamental Christianity is a pretty humorous dichotomy. There was one here a few mont…tag:atheistnexus.org,2014-05-27:2182797:Comment:24283152014-05-27T23:34:05.267ZFuturehttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Future
There was one here a few months back (can't remember his name.) As an atheist, and a new member, he was treated respectfully, but it was apparent that he was like a fish out of water with respect to non-god oriented discussions here. I think he went away.
There was one here a few months back (can't remember his name.) As an atheist, and a new member, he was treated respectfully, but it was apparent that he was like a fish out of water with respect to non-god oriented discussions here. I think he went away. Future, actually, I can, in a…tag:atheistnexus.org,2014-05-27:2182797:Comment:24284972014-05-27T22:29:53.754ZPathttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Pat46
<p>Future, actually, I can, in a rather twisted sort of way, understand it. My brother is a conservative TeaBagger, and an agnostic. He's "found" Ayn Rand, and her theory of objectivism. He's actually one of the few who is honest about the "I got mine, and screw the rest of you" philosophy wherein one of its foundational principles is that of atheism. Ayn Rand was a Russian immigrant who hated and loathed Stalin and the Communist Politburo. However, she absolutely rejected magical thinking and…</p>
<p>Future, actually, I can, in a rather twisted sort of way, understand it. My brother is a conservative TeaBagger, and an agnostic. He's "found" Ayn Rand, and her theory of objectivism. He's actually one of the few who is honest about the "I got mine, and screw the rest of you" philosophy wherein one of its foundational principles is that of atheism. Ayn Rand was a Russian immigrant who hated and loathed Stalin and the Communist Politburo. However, she absolutely rejected magical thinking and looked down her nose at it, and followers of gods. Now, why Paul Ryan, a good Catholic boy, thinks so highly of Ayn Rand is beyond me. Then again, maybe not. Ryan is just another example of cherry picking what you like, and disregarding the real meaning of what is being promulgated.</p> I was conservative once, but…tag:atheistnexus.org,2014-05-27:2182797:Comment:24284882014-05-27T21:17:34.605ZMichael Pennhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/DennisMichaelPennington
<p>I was conservative once, but not since becoming atheist. I'm repeating here, but I actually know conservative christians who own a health food store, and they believe that "jesus would not like all the giveaways." I think they read a different Buybull than I did. Tea Potty christians they are.</p>
<p>I was conservative once, but not since becoming atheist. I'm repeating here, but I actually know conservative christians who own a health food store, and they believe that "jesus would not like all the giveaways." I think they read a different Buybull than I did. Tea Potty christians they are.</p> You know who are a strange bu…tag:atheistnexus.org,2014-05-27:2182797:Comment:24285412014-05-27T15:26:12.411ZFuturehttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Future
You know who are a strange bunch? Atheists who are politically conservative. They're wise enough to have figured out that the god concept is a ridiculous and antiquated farce, but they hate to be associated with anything that has liberal followers, so they bad mouth atheists just as bad as religious conservatives. My experience is that they're very conflicted about not sharing that aspect of conservative ideology with their tribe.
You know who are a strange bunch? Atheists who are politically conservative. They're wise enough to have figured out that the god concept is a ridiculous and antiquated farce, but they hate to be associated with anything that has liberal followers, so they bad mouth atheists just as bad as religious conservatives. My experience is that they're very conflicted about not sharing that aspect of conservative ideology with their tribe. I've found that most people r…tag:atheistnexus.org,2014-05-26:2182797:Comment:24281382014-05-26T02:50:32.298ZSky Godhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/SkyGod
<p>I've found that most people really don't believe. A group of people may question my non-belief and even make fun of it in a group setting, but when we have one-on-one discussions it's a different story. They admit to not believing in many tenants of their religion, even some very basic ones that everything else is based on. Hell, look at how many of them are terrified to die! What is there to fear when you get to go to happy fairy-tale land? Humans are herd animals and a lot of religion and…</p>
<p>I've found that most people really don't believe. A group of people may question my non-belief and even make fun of it in a group setting, but when we have one-on-one discussions it's a different story. They admit to not believing in many tenants of their religion, even some very basic ones that everything else is based on. Hell, look at how many of them are terrified to die! What is there to fear when you get to go to happy fairy-tale land? Humans are herd animals and a lot of religion and politics comes down to peer pressure and being willfully ignorant.</p> "...not afraid of burning in…tag:atheistnexus.org,2014-05-24:2182797:Comment:24275572014-05-24T11:27:00.828Zmatthew greenberghttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/matthewgreenberg
<p>"...not afraid of burning in hell." </p>
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<p>possibly the greatest sign off i've ever heard!</p>
<p>"...not afraid of burning in hell." </p>
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<p>possibly the greatest sign off i've ever heard!</p> Plaid.tag:atheistnexus.org,2014-05-24:2182797:Comment:24273072014-05-24T06:12:04.525Zk.h. kyhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/khughes
Plaid.
Plaid. me tootag:atheistnexus.org,2014-05-24:2182797:Comment:24273692014-05-24T03:42:12.185ZDaniel Whttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Daniel57
me too
me too