#1 Atheists have no mercy or pity for others.
Time and time again history as shown with the Nazis, the Communists, the New Deal, the Spanish Inquisition that atheists will behave in a cruel and callous manner towards thier fellow man.

#2 To an Atheist a natural disaster is just a random event
Only a Christian can understand that when a building collapses in an earthquake that is the hand of God slaying sinners. Atheists are willfully blind to the unconditional tough love of God for His creation. In short Atheists lack pity for those who are killed in these disasters.

#4To an atheists there is no difference between an animal and a human
To an Atheist A pig or a human, an ape or a human, what is the difference? For Atheists they are all products of random chance. If Atheists were true to their beliefs they would be running around naked and tossing feces at each other and eating other people. They lack the compassion for their fellow man to realize animals are just tools placed here for us to use as we see fit.

#5 Only biblical faith offers objective standards of good and evil.
One just has to look at atheists societies like ancient Rome to see they had completely different morality than the Christian society of the West now. Rome lived by a philosophy of might makes right that gave Rome the moral superiority to invade their neighbors. Contrast that with America's war of liberation in Iraq in 2002 and Mexico in 1848. Christians have the morality to know when their neighbors are evil and need to be destroyed.

#6 Atheists have no reason to feel pity for anyone or anything.
Sure Atheists may feel pity in their hearts of hearts but philosophically they have no reason to. Carving another human being up to them is just like carving a pig.

#7 Throughout human history there have never been any other gods but God.
God is the only God humanity ever had. Sure various confused pagans called God by different names like Thor, Zeus, Angra Mainyu and Kali but that has always been God. The past was not atheists, it Was Christian.

#8 There were false gods, but they were false because they exist within the Universe, not outside it.
No atheist can show us a false god who existed outside the universe so case closed.
#9 Any religion younger than Christianity is just a copy of Christianity.
Since Christianity is the Gold standard of morality all other religions just copy Christian doctrine like Islam. Atheism is younger than Christianity therefor Atheism is a mockery of Christianity.

#10 Only Christianity has ever had the idea of an eternal, infinite creator God.
No one, not the Egyptians, the Meso-Americans or even the Sumerians has a infinite God. Even Atheism doesn't have an infinite creator God.

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Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism -
10-01-2010, 06:42 PM

And let's not forget: Christianity can explain atheism (Satan, God testing people and them failing), but no atheist has ever been able to explain Christianity. If Christianity was irrational, which it isn't, Christians would be less well-adapted to survive than atheists, so according to natural selection we should have died out and atheists should prosper. In fact, the opposite is true: In Darwinist terms, Christians are very effective predators of atheists, but atheists are very bad at killing Christians.
Face it, secularist losers: You cannot reconcile the existence of weakness with an all-powerful, all-logical system of natural selection. What's your answer to that one?

O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.

God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

And let's not forget: Christianity can explain atheism (Satan, God testing people and them failing), but no atheist has ever been able to explain Christianity. If Christianity was irrational, which it isn't, Christians would be less well-adapted to survive than atheists, so according to natural selection we should have died out and atheists should prosper. In fact, the opposite is true: In Darwinist terms, Christians are very effective predators of atheists, but atheists are very bad at killing Christians.
Face it, secularist losers: You cannot reconcile the existence of weakness with an all-powerful, all-logical system of natural selection. What's your answer to that one?

Well, since you have only listed NINE points that 'CRUSH' atheism, I will discontinue your obviously brainwashed bigotry as benign -for you do not even have the mental capacity required to count to TEN.

Well, since you have only listed NINE points that 'CRUSH' atheism, I will discontinue your obviously brainwashed bigotry as benign -for you do not even have the mental capacity required to count to TEN.

Did you not learn to count? He starts with 1 and he ends with 10 you know.

To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell! James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

Well, since you have only listed NINE points that 'CRUSH' atheism, I will discontinue your obviously brainwashed bigotry as benign -for you do not even have the mental capacity required to count to TEN.

So I can assume you have no rebuttal to my point #3? That's more than a bit cowardly of you Tony.

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Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism -
10-05-2010, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tony69

Well, since you have only listed NINE points that 'CRUSH' atheism, I will discontinue your obviously brainwashed bigotry as benign -for you do not even have the mental capacity required to count to TEN.

Sure, you can try and claim that there's only nine points listed, but then you'd also probably try and claim that there is no convincing evidence for God's existence. Anyone with the Holy Spirit guiding them can clearly see all ten points, clear as day.

O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.

God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

I'm finding a lot of your points rather infuriating but I need sleep so I'll have to respond in parts.

Firstly: in #2 not only are you wrong in saying that natural disasters are random (firmly established scientific theory can provide reasons and causes for everything I can think of) but you say that being cast into hell is tough love.. I fail to see any semblance of love in that sentiment or is hell a lot cushier than you seem to be letting on, and do they get another chance? You seem to be judging people you don't know as sinners from some assumed position of superiority and in doing so break your first point by displaying a distinct lack of pity in ignoring the aftermath of these "divine interventions": drought, disease, etc etc.

I'm starting to think you may not have really thought these points through and I am off to bed. I gather you people are fond of arguing so have at it, I'll try my best (later).

I'm finding a lot of your points rather infuriating but I need sleep so I'll have to respond in parts.

Firstly: in #2 not only are you wrong in saying that natural disasters are random (firmly established scientific theory can provide reasons and causes for everything I can think of) but you say that being cast into hell is tough love.. I fail to see any semblance of love in that sentiment or is hell a lot cushier than you seem to be letting on, and do they get another chance? You seem to be judging people you don't know as sinners from some assumed position of superiority and in doing so break your first point by displaying a distinct lack of pity in ignoring the aftermath of these "divine interventions": drought, disease, etc etc.

I'm starting to think you may not have really thought these points through and I am off to bed. I gather you people are fond of arguing so have at it, I'll try my best (later).

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My friend; firstly. You have 9 points shown not ten. #3 must have been forgotten.

Now as an atheist, I have been talking to christians for a long time. I have no quarrels with you as a community. I do however would like to refute some of your points.

Point #1. Now, that is entirely untrue. In fact, the other day I bought a homeless man some food as well as something to drink. I show mercy, I show pity. I am not asking you to believe me, but you must know this is false? Surely you cannot be so dull as to assume that atheists as a whole are uncaring people?

Point #2. Now, you claim here that we think that natural disasters are random events, this is not true at all... Disasters such as earthquakes we believe are caused by a release of pressure in the earth crust. Also, you claim that the earthquake is gods way of 'slaying sinners' Do you honestly believe that out of the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of earthquakes that have happened that no a single christian has been killed?

Point #4 We do think that there is a difference between animals and human, through years of evolution; not random chance, we are very different. I cant even continue this, this point is so ridiculous.

Point #5 Now this is nothing against atheism at all.. Its just a statement really. Good on you.

Point #6 In our hearts of hearts? Search the meaning of Philosophy. Point #7 Now you say really nothing about atheism, you spout out random gods from various religions.. this is once again nothing to do with atheism.
Point #8 Oh wow.. I am not sure where to start. You invite us to show you a false god... Remembering we're atheists.. right? We dont believe in Gods.

Point #9 Atheism is a mockery of Christianity... So you think that Christianity was the first religion, or belief; If I may. What about the millions of years before Jesus Christ was even born? You dont think a single belief was formed until god? That is foolish my friend.

Point #10 Congratulations, Atheism has no Infinite Creator God. You do know what Atheism is right? We dont believe in deities, hence the no Infinite Creater bloke...

Most of this points are meaningless and redundant.

Anyway, I think I have been rather polite, not swearing or using vulgar language. The only thing I ask is you pay me the same respect I have paid you. I do not hate you, nor do I distain your existance, I accept all beliefs.
I just however chose not to follow such ideals.

To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell! James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell! James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

Well, friend. If you took 3 seconds of your time to read the Original Post; you would see I am correct; I am not saying it was a huge mistake nor a mistake of much relevance.

If you're really having THAT much trouble seeing his #3 point, I'll repost it for you

Happy?

"Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him." Matthew 21:31-32

Nothing is shown, I am assuming you are all trying to get the point across that since I am a 'god-fear/hating atheist scum I cannot see #3' right?

What did I say about respect? Hmmm?

Actually, sorry about that, I messed up my post.

But you know what, its right there! Why should I even bother to go out of my way to repost it?

"Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him." Matthew 21:31-32

To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell! James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."